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At 7:10 PM -0500 11/13/01, Garrett Wollman wrote:

><<On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:08:37 -0800 (PST), Cooper Fox 
><fox893@yahoo.com> said:
>>  As far as I know those decoder boxes will be available
>>  very soon.
>Already are, as I have noted several times on this very mailing-list.
>The low-end ones are combined in one unit with DirecTV receivers and
>sell for about $500 (probably less if you sign your life away to

I saw something in the HDTV newsgroup that Toshiba may soon be 
bringing out an HDTV box without DTV.  No word on the price, though.

Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH