Scary news about the analog TV phaseout!

Howard Glazer
Fri Feb 1 22:13:38 EST 2008

A similar situation exists in satellite radio. Canadians are supposed to
order their XM and Sirius service through those companies' Canadian units.
However, the Canadian service does not include several channels available to
US listeners, so Canadians set up phony PO Box addresses in the states for
billing purposes and subscribe to the full-lineup American service. You'd
think both companies would have done everything possible to make it close to
impossible for Canadians to do that, since grey-market subs take badly
needed money away from Sirius Canada and the struggling XM Canada, but they


From: <>

> It is grey in the sense he is paying ExpressVu for service that he
> should not be able to get. Black market he wouldn't be paying anything
> after buying hardware like the old cable boxes.
> On 2/1/08, Paul Hopfgarten <> wrote:
> > OK, define the difference between a "grey" market and a black market
> >
> > -Paul Hopfgarten
> > -Derry NH
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > [] On Behalf
> >
> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:49 PM
> > To: Scott Fybush
> > Cc: B-R-I
> > Subject: Re: Scary news about the analog TV phaseout!
> >
> > I have a friend who lives about as far 'downeast' as you can get in
> > the coastal town of Addison, ME. He has a Channel Master rotor antenna
> > setup and he can get a snowy signal from channels 2 and 5 in Bangor
> > and nothing from 7. Yet DirecTV says Addison gets a Grade A signal for
> > 7 and Grade B for 2. He can't get Portland stations from DirecTV
> > either. Bangor still isn't uplinked.
> >
> > So now he has both DirecTV and a grey market ExpressVu from Bell
> > Canada. With the canadian dish he gets all the Boston stations. He
> > doesn't like paying for 2 services especially with one being illegal
> > but was forced to do it. How can Bangor with 3 VHF outlets still not
> > get uplinked? One would think the Bangor outlets would agree to pay
> > DirecTV or Dish for coverage to reach all of northern Maine.
> >
> >

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