Scary news about the analog TV phaseout!

David Tomm
Sat Feb 2 02:24:44 EST 2008

There are also many channels on the Canadian services that play 
primarily Canadian Content. That was the deal XM and Sirius struck with 
the CRTC to expand their reach north of the border.  Much of that stuff 
is gosh-awful and the handful of hits get ridiculously overplayed.  
This stuff can be found in abundance on local terrestrial stations.  
Satellite listeners in Canada are burnt out on the Cancon, and getting 
the US service gives them a much wider variety of music to choose from.

-Dave Tomm
"Mike Thomas"

On Feb 1, 2008, at 10:13 PM, Howard Glazer wrote:

> A similar situation exists in satellite radio. Canadians are supposed 
> to
> order their XM and Sirius service through those companies' Canadian 
> units.
> However, the Canadian service does not include several channels 
> available to
> US listeners, so Canadians set up phony PO Box addresses in the states 
> for
> billing purposes and subscribe to the full-lineup American service. 
> You'd
> think both companies would have done everything possible to make it 
> close to
> impossible for Canadians to do that, since grey-market subs take badly
> needed money away from Sirius Canada and the struggling XM Canada, but 
> they
> haven't.
> Howard
> From: <>
>> It is grey in the sense he is paying ExpressVu for service that he
>> should not be able to get. Black market he wouldn't be paying anything
>> after buying hardware like the old cable boxes.
>> On 2/1/08, Paul Hopfgarten <> wrote:
>>> OK, define the difference between a "grey" market and a black market
>>> -Paul Hopfgarten
>>> -Derry NH
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
>>> [] On 
>>> Behalf
> Of
>>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:49 PM
>>> To: Scott Fybush
>>> Cc: B-R-I
>>> Subject: Re: Scary news about the analog TV phaseout!
>>> I have a friend who lives about as far 'downeast' as you can get in
>>> the coastal town of Addison, ME. He has a Channel Master rotor 
>>> antenna
>>> setup and he can get a snowy signal from channels 2 and 5 in Bangor
>>> and nothing from 7. Yet DirecTV says Addison gets a Grade A signal 
>>> for
>>> 7 and Grade B for 2. He can't get Portland stations from DirecTV
>>> either. Bangor still isn't uplinked.
>>> So now he has both DirecTV and a grey market ExpressVu from Bell
>>> Canada. With the canadian dish he gets all the Boston stations. He
>>> doesn't like paying for 2 services especially with one being illegal
>>> but was forced to do it. How can Bangor with 3 VHF outlets still not
>>> get uplinked? One would think the Bangor outlets would agree to pay
>>> DirecTV or Dish for coverage to reach all of northern Maine.

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