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Re: Boston radio's pizza connection
I was making a point about the protocol....not the philosophies involved.
(BTW...I only pursue this discussion on this list for it's relevance to
media, mass communications and it's journalistic flavor. )
Again, we are speaking about an organizations...with a charters, membership,
spokespersons etc. It is generally accepted that you refer to someone by
what they wish to be called......
BTW...The biggest pro-life organization in Massachusetts, MCFL, ARE
anti-euthanasia, anti-death penalty.
Therefore they logically choose the name "pro-life" to describe themselves.
Again, I am not arguing your philosophy...nor mine. Just the manner and
order of polite discourse and discussion. When someone sneaks in a phrase
or term that indicates a value judgement...especially in a news story, they
have stopped "reporting" the facts and have started editorializing. Or in
this case a radio discussion mailing list...they have stopped discussing
radio and made statements about their personal philoosphies....which is
apparently what Paul Hopfgarten objected to.
(BTW...If I were to refer to your postion as 'pro-death'...I think you would
not consider that an accurate or flattering portrayal of your side....which
Mike said he sees no problem with.)
>>"Anti-choice" is the opposite of "pro-choice" which is how the left
promotes their position because
>> to them, the issue of "choice" is the most important. Either one is
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Strassberg" <Dan.Strassberg@att.net>
To: "Joseph Pappalardo" <email@example.com>
Cc: <firstname.lastname@example.org>; <email@example.com>;
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: Boston radio's pizza connection
> Joe: You have made a reasoned and rather eloquent argument. However, I
> it is flawed. Most people on the so-called pro-life side are scarcely
> pro-life. People who oppose women's right of reproductive choice almost
> universally favor capital punishment. Calling such people pro-life sticks
> my craw because it's a falsehood, just as calling me pro-abortion would be
> falsehood. I wanted to identify Operation Rescue. Had I worded my posting
> "the so-called pro-life Operation Rescue" or "Operation Rescue, an
> origanization that calls itself pro-life," I think my phrasing would have
> drawn negative comments from the same people. And if I had said "the
> self-proclaimed pro-life Operation Rescue," I think the reactions would
> been even stronger. So, carried to its logical extreme, your approach
> prohibit mentions on the list of any group that espouses a controversial
> cause, even in postings whose subjects are appropriate to the list. Is
> the outcome you really want?
> I find it interesting that this has turned into a debate on political
> correctness, with me, the so-called liberal (I consider myself a moderate,
> not a liberal) on the anti-PC side and those who most likely call
> conservatives on the PC side.
> Dan Strassberg, firstname.lastname@example.org
> Phone: 1-617-558-4205, eFax: 1-707-215-6367
> -----Original Message-----
> >> So what if Dan said "anti-choice?" Just because that is how he chose
> >look at it does not mean he's "politicizing" this list.
> >It was a word chosen to 'stick it' to anyone who might be part of the
> >pro-life movement...and had no purpose except to express his need to
> >his own politics.
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