[B R-I] Re: W279BQ-103.7 On-Air (Where?); New Pirate On 94.9?

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

Interesting Linc, thanks for the information.

Paul



On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Linc Reed-Nickerson <
linc@reed-nickerson.com> wrote:

> It's not Google maps that's off, it depends on which NAD (North American
> Datum) was used for the coordinates.  NAD 27 or NAD 83.
>
> In some cases the coordinates were wrong to errors in local base maps, the
> USGS isn't perfect, or in others the applicant simply took a SWAG at the
> coordinates and got them wrong.
>
> When I first looked at KORC I found the tower to be over a 1/4 mile from
> where it was supposed to be.  The original owner did some pretty sloppy
> work, and defining the location may have been part of it.  I had to apply
> for a CP to correct the coordinates, fortunately I had recent impedance
> measurements to relicense something that already existed.
>
> There are cases of stations built years ago, in the wrong place for
> whatever
> reason, and the FCC found it only after the advent of GPS, and fined the
> station owner... even though the station hadn't moved and had been in place
> for 50 plus years... One station, in Eugene, OR I believe, was due to a
> base
> map error and the fine was rescinded after the consulting engineer was able
> show where the error had come from.
>
> Linc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org
> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Paul B. Walker, Jr.
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:57 AM
> To: Kaimbridge M. GoldChild
> Cc: Boston Radio Interest
> Subject: Re: [B R-I] Re: W279BQ-103.7 On-Air (Where?); New Pirate On 94.9?
>
> Ive found googlemaps to be anywhere between 500 to 1000 feet off when using
> exact co-ordinates.
>
> I once maped K04HL in Ord, NE when I lived there and google maps putn it
> 500
> feet off from where I knew it to be.
>
> Why would Salem "losing" WESX have anythijng to do with where the
> translator
> licenses itself?
>
> Paul Walker
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Kaimbridge M. GoldChild <
> Kaimbridge@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > They may be licensed to Salem--indeed at 5 pm I heard an ID that
> > > said "WSMA Scituate 90.5 FM, simulcast on 103.7 W279BQ Salem" (or
> > > words to that effect)
> > >
> > > Drove around Beverly, also 128 from Beverly to Lynnfield (where
> > > I lose them). Maybe based on Highland Ave Salem and best heard
> > > in Bev., Salem, Danvers, Swampscott, Peabody, Lynn?
> >
> > In terms of COL, the license and CP both identify Gloucester as the
> > "principal community to be served" (which appears far fetched for either
> > case, though the original 'Farms location would have been fine).
> > They were granted a license on 15 September 2009,
> >
> >     http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/pubacc/Auth_Files/1332585.pdf
> >
> > which, after adjusting the coordinates from NAD-27 to NAD-83 (why they
> > haven't just converted to the modern '83 datum--which GPS, Google Maps
> and
> > just about everyone else uses--is beyond logic),
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/asrn-within-radius?dlat=42&mlat=33&slat=26.00&ns=
> N&dlon=70&mlon=53&slon=13.00&ew=W&nad=27<http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/asrn-within-radius?dlat=42&mlat=33&slat=26.00&ns=%0AN&dlon=70&mlon=53&slon=13.00&ew=W&nad=27>
> >
> > locates the transmitter/antenna in the middle of the Cummings Center
> > parking lot on Rt.62 (Elliott St.) in Beverly:
> >
> >     http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=42.5572531&lon=-70.8863962&z=17&m=h
> >
> > No sign of anything there, now!
> > The subsequent construction permit was granted on 28 April 2010,
> >
> >     http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/pubacc/Auth_Files/1351441.pdf
> >
> > with the NAD-27->83 adjusted coordinates,
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/asrn-within-radius?dlat=42&mlat=30&slat=06.00&ns=
> N&dlon=70&mlon=55&slon=31.00&ew=W&nad=27<http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/asrn-within-radius?dlat=42&mlat=30&slat=06.00&ns=%0AN&dlon=70&mlon=55&slon=31.00&ew=W&nad=27>
> >
> > identifying the rooftop of a building just south of the Hawthorne Square
> > Mall on Rt.107 (Highland Ave, between Traders Way and Greenledge St) as
> the
> > transmitting site:
> >
> >     http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=42.5017503&lon=-70.9247303&z=18&m=h
> >
> > So it would certainly seem reasonable to change the COL to
> > Salem (especially since they lost WESX!).
> >
> >
> >     ~Kaimbridge~
> >
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