...and speaking of anniversaries...
Sat Jun 13 10:18:34 EDT 2009
Dan, you mentioned the strong signals of some of these old daytimers (such
as WHCU, which I could sometimes pull in around dusk in Massachusetts) that
may have made them exceptions to the rule regarding network affiliation.
That theory is probably correct. For years, the CBS affiliate in the
Springfield-Holyoke area was daytimer WACE (730), whose 5-kw clear channel
signal was the strongest by far in the central Connecticut Valley. I used
to live in Royalston, near Athol, where WACE --- a good forty-five miles
away --- came in almost as well as nearby WCAT. It would have been the
strongest CBS signal in our area, WFGL in Fitchburg and WCBS itself being
I should imagine NBC would have regarded WHEB, which was only 1 kw but
offered a powerhouse signal at 750, as offering a strategic signal for a
sizeable area not quite covered by WCSH, WGIR or whatever Boston station was
carrying NBC at the time.
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Subject: Re: ...and speaking of anniversaries...
> WHEB in Portsmouth (1-kw daytimer on 750) was an NBC affiliate, at least
> in the '60s.
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>> The most famous and long-running case of CBS on a daytimer that I can
>> think of (OK, it wasn't, strictly speaking, a daytimer; it was a
>> limited-time station) was WHCU (a commercial station, then owned by
>> Cornell U) in Ithaca NY. WHCU was allowed to stay on the air until New
>> Orleans sunset. WHCU did not get to operate full time until the early
>> 1980s, I believe, but with the great soil conductivity north of Ithaca
>> and (eventually) a 5-kW ND (it was 1 kW ND for many years) daytime signal
>> on 870, WHCU was the best game on the AM dial between Syracuse and
>> Rochester, especially when you consider that NBC's Red Network had locked
>> up the big signals in those two citues (WSYR and WHAM) and CBS had to
>> settle for high-on-the dial signals there--WFBL 1390 and WHEC 1460.
>> Seems to me that I've also heard that one of the four radio networks at
>> one point was affiliated with WEDO McKeesport, a 1-kW ND daytime-only
>> Pittsburgh-market station on 810. Like WHCU, WEDO (one of the first
>> stations that Jerry Williams worked for--I don't think Williams had yet
>> discovered two-way talk at that time) has an excellent signal for its
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>>> On 12 Jun 2009 at 23:38, Dan.Strassberg wrote:
>>>> So until WTRY went full time, the network lineup probably would have
>>>> been NBC: WGY, CBS: WOKO, ABC and Mutual (found on the same station
>>>> in quite a few markets): WABY. Generally speaking, the networks did
>>>> not affiliate with daytimers, although there were exceptions (more
>>>> with Mutual than the other networks),
>>> Sometime later, in the late 50s, early 60s, in the Boston area, ABC
>>> was on daytimer WTAO 740. I think some ABC programs sometimes may
>>> have been carried on the co-owned FM station, WXHR.
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