Two Dave MacNeils?

Laurence Glavin
Wed Jan 17 12:13:17 EST 2007

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Don A." 
>Subject: Re: Two Dave MacNeils?
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:17:02 -0500

> > There's no question that symphonies should be played in full because
> > that's what music directors of symphony orchestras ranging from the
> > New York Philharmonic to the smallest community orchestra do in
> > regular concerts
>From: "Garrett Wollman" >
> And musicians a rock concerts often play extended or altered versions
> of their songs, but that doesn't mean that radio stations are obliged
> to play those versions instead of the ones that are intended for air.
> Commercial radio is a business, not a charity. Get over it.
>Some of us have given up any hope that Glavin CAN "get over it".
>Stubborn....or obsessive....I can't figure it out.

Yikes...look at all the amateur psychiatrists.  To them I have two words:


A small amount of sports talk psychosis entered into a couple of regular
talk shows Monday, so I've experienced a touch of it in the past few days.
When I wrote that I surveyed some of my past posts to find out if I really
claimed WCRB never plays Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, I also observed that
during those months, I entered ruminations on dozens of subjects, only
broaching the subject of classical music in general or WCRB in particular
when it came up in the news (the WCRB sale to first GM then Nassau) or 
others' observations of what THEY heard when tuning in to the new regime at
99.5.  I've hardly touched at all on happenings at WRKO although that subject
has gone into overdrive at's Boston board because there's 
always WBUR (speaking of which, the national radio websites have carried
the interesting story about the network of non-comm's in Iowa that 
tried to bounce Tom Ashbrook's WBUR-produced "On Point" in favor of 
Diane Rehm only to be met with a fusillade of listener complaints; they
later relented).
Re: Garrett's observation of performance characteristics of rock shows, in
that the groups or stars play longer versions of their recorded material...
in many cases, the RECORDINGS themselves are 3 to 4 minutes on an album,
maybe a little less on the singles, and that's what the radio stations play. 
But a recording of a 40-minute symphony or concerto is the same length as the
piece when it's played live. (The New Yorks Times this week had a review
of a performance of Beethoven's Violin Concerto that utilized a cadenza,
a section of a whole piece that can be improvised but nowadays is
scored as if improvised, written by Beethoven himself for a different version
of the same work and somewhat longer than the Fritz Kreisler cadenza most
often played.  I've read that a pianist in the Boston area actually 
improvises his cadenzas in the Mozart piano concertos, so when he plays
them they're longer than most it can happen, but rarely;
see you learned something today.)  I think it's a valid position that 
classical stations, commercial or non-commercial SHOULD resemble the
concertgoer's experience because the radio audience is a subset of that
cohort, viz: people who enjoy the works of the classical genre as they
can actually be encountered in the concert hall. I can say with some assurance
as they days grow July and August many of them will show 
up at summer festivals like Tanglewood expecting to hear all the compositions
in full. 

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