From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 2 00:12:59 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 00:12:59 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Are they still on?? I was in Waltham today, where I would have expected a good signal, and got what sounded like a distant station, which didn't sound like WATD either. On 6/30/2018 1:00 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > Word from Eli Polonsky that WMEX 1510 made it back on air today, with low > power testing simulcasting WATD.This just beat the FCC deadline to get on > or lose the license. > > Oldies DJ Jimmy Jay says they'll resume regular broadcasting around Sept 18 > and he will have a late morning show. > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 2 00:22:40 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 00:22:40 -0400 Subject: WJIB's FM signal Message-ID: <55710981-578b-6444-5d91-bcc6407007d7@attorneyross.com> While in Waltham today, I was listening to WJIB's translator, but I found it being interfered with by another station, apparently on the same channel, carrying a baseball game.?? I wouldn't think WMRC could reach Waltham, so there must be some other station on 101.3 interfering. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From jjlehmann@comcast.net Mon Jul 2 00:55:31 2018 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 00:55:31 -0400 Subject: WJIB's FM signal In-Reply-To: <55710981-578b-6444-5d91-bcc6407007d7@attorneyross.com> References: <55710981-578b-6444-5d91-bcc6407007d7@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <34FA3657-8EA0-40F9-9503-749C2B001C47@comcast.net> It most certainly was WMRC?s translator, as they carry the Red Sox. They are at a much greater elevation than WJIB?s, and are heard regularly as far away as NH. Jeff Lehmann > On Jul 2, 2018, at 12:22 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > > While in Waltham today, I was listening to WJIB's translator, but I found it being interfered with by another station, apparently on the same channel, carrying a baseball game. I wouldn't think WMRC could reach Waltham, so there must be some other station on 101.3 interfering. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 2 01:34:50 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 01:34:50 -0400 Subject: WJIB's FM signal In-Reply-To: <34FA3657-8EA0-40F9-9503-749C2B001C47@comcast.net> References: <55710981-578b-6444-5d91-bcc6407007d7@attorneyross.com> <34FA3657-8EA0-40F9-9503-749C2B001C47@comcast.net> Message-ID: <16395033-fc85-4e2b-c35e-e85582ecb8e4@attorneyross.com> OK, then I guess it was WMRC.? I hear them in a lot of places. Last week I was in Woburn and got a good signal on the translator, but along I-93 coming home, there was some interference.? I once had good reception in downtown Boston and out along Storrow Drive, and into northern Newton, but as I went south along Centre Street toward my office, WMRC started interfering.? The interference is pretty strong in Newton Centre. On 7/2/2018 12:55 AM, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > It most certainly was WMRC?s translator, as they carry the Red Sox. > > They are at a much greater elevation than WJIB?s, and are heard regularly as far away as NH. > > Jeff Lehmann > >> On Jul 2, 2018, at 12:22 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: >> >> While in Waltham today, I was listening to WJIB's translator, but I found it being interfered with by another station, apparently on the same channel, carrying a baseball game. I wouldn't think WMRC could reach Waltham, so there must be some other station on 101.3 interfering. >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 >> 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Jul 2 15:23:42 2018 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 15:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's strange. The FCC database dosn't show a CP, but only an application, for the new WMEX site. How are they able to get on the air? Rob On Sat, 30 Jun 2018, Bob Nelson wrote: > Word from Eli Polonsky that WMEX 1510 made it back on air today, with low > power testing simulcasting WATD.This just beat the FCC deadline to get on > or lose the license. > > Oldies DJ Jimmy Jay says they'll resume regular broadcasting around Sept 18 > and he will have a late morning show. > From elipolo881@gmail.com Mon Jul 2 15:30:48 2018 From: elipolo881@gmail.com (Eli Polonsky) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 15:30:48 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives Message-ID: > > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 00:12:59 -0400 > From: A Joseph Ross > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: WMEX lives > > Are they still on?? I was in Waltham today, where I would have expected > a good signal, and got what sounded like a distant station, which didn't > sound like WATD either. > ?WMEX 1510 came on with the WATD simulcast ?Saturday morning through the day Sunday. Sometime Sunday evening it sounded like it lost the audio feed from WATD and there was a blank carrier (with some spurious noise) on 1510 through Sunday night. I didn't check earlier today (Monday) but now as of 3 PM WMEX is simulcasting WATD again. I would not expect a good, or necessarily even audible, signal in Waltham from the current WMEX transmitter site. It is no longer transmitting from the Waltham site that 1510 moved to in the early 1980's. WATD owner Ed Perry did not include that site (or use of it) in his purchase of WMEX, and those towers were taken down about a month ago. Ed has WMEX transmitting from the 1260 WBIX site at the Milton/North Quincy line (very near where the original 1510 WMEX transmitter was before its move to Waltham) on a temporary low power transmitter just to get the station on the air before the FCC would have deleted the license after June 30. The signal is very weak to non-existent due west and northwest of Boston. I don't know the current power but it may be just a hundred watts or so. A 10,000 watt daytime signal is planned from that site by this fall but still down to 100 watts at night (all non-directional). It is very weak where I live in Somerville. In my travels over the weekend it was very weak in Cambridge, Allston/Brighton and Brookline, and I couldn't hear much of it farther west or northwest that that, though it did put a fair signal southwest, I heard it in Dedham, Westwood, Norwood. It's spotty in downtown Boston proper, listenable in places. Of course, it's strong in the southerly Boston neighborhoods including Dorchester, South Boston, Mattapan, Hyde Park, W. Roxbury, etc... and the closer you are to the water, the better it is. It's fair at Logan Airport, East Boston and Charlestown, and can be heard on the lower North Shore such as Revere, Lynn, etc... I saw someone else post that it came in well down the South Shore through Braintree but was fading by Weymouth Landing. EP From scott@fybush.com Mon Jul 2 16:46:51 2018 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 16:46:51 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: STA for 1000 watts daytime only from the 1260 site... granted June 6, on the air June 29-30. That reset the one-year silent clock. On Mon, Jul 2, 2018, 4:01 PM Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > That's strange. The FCC database dosn't show a CP, but only an > application, for the new WMEX site. How are they able to get on the air? > > > Rob > > On Sat, 30 Jun 2018, Bob Nelson wrote: > > > Word from Eli Polonsky that WMEX 1510 made it back on air today, with low > > power testing simulcasting WATD.This just beat the FCC deadline to get on > > or lose the license. > > > > Oldies DJ Jimmy Jay says they'll resume regular broadcasting around Sept > 18 > > and he will have a late morning show. > > > From aerie.ma@comcast.net Mon Jul 2 20:56:01 2018 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 20:56:01 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008901d41268$9de3ae70$d9ab0b50$@comcast.net> This is probably a dumb question, but since 1510 is using one of the 1260 towers, which are very close to where 1510's towers were before the move to Waltham, could 1510 use additional WBIX towers and develop a pattern similar to what WMEX had in the good ol' days? Even with the 5kW WMEX had from Quincy, it very easily served cities/towns up and down the coast at night, including Boston. My parents used to listen to Jerry Williams and Steve Fredericks in coastal NH and Maine. Inland was another matter of course, but 5kW up and down the coast sounds like a more sustainable proposition than flea power at night covering Quincy and not much else. I think WBIX has 3 not quite inline towers, whereas I think WMEX from Quincy only used two towers. -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest On Behalf Of Scott Fybush Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 4:47 PM To: Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> Cc: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: WMEX lives STA for 1000 watts daytime only from the 1260 site... granted June 6, on the air June 29-30. That reset the one-year silent clock. On Mon, Jul 2, 2018, 4:01 PM Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > That's strange. The FCC database dosn't show a CP, but only an > application, for the new WMEX site. How are they able to get on the air? > > > Rob > > On Sat, 30 Jun 2018, Bob Nelson wrote: > > > Word from Eli Polonsky that WMEX 1510 made it back on air today, > > with low power testing simulcasting WATD.This just beat the FCC > > deadline to get on or lose the license. > > > > Oldies DJ Jimmy Jay says they'll resume regular broadcasting around > > Sept > 18 > > and he will have a late morning show. > > > From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Jul 2 21:47:58 2018 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 21:47:58 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: <008901d41268$9de3ae70$d9ab0b50$@comcast.net> References: <008901d41268$9de3ae70$d9ab0b50$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <23354.54734.651274.605540@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > This is probably a dumb question, but since 1510 is using one of the > 1260 towers, which are very close to where 1510's towers were before > the move to Waltham, could 1510 use additional WBIX towers and > develop a pattern similar to what WMEX had in the good ol' days? Plausible, but given the business model of this purchase (basically, to have a facility that will serve as a parent for a translator and whose programming will be directed at the translator listenership) it doesn't necessarily make economic sense. If you're Perry, you want to get a licenseable facility on the air so it can be a parent to your translator -- not replicate the "good old days". > Even with the 5kW WMEX had from Quincy, it very easily served > cities/towns up and down the coast at night, including Boston. My > parents used to listen to Jerry Williams and Steve Fredericks in > coastal NH and Maine. Inland was another matter of course, but 5kW > up and down the coast sounds like a more sustainable proposition > than flea power at night covering Quincy and not much else. I think > WBIX has 3 not quite inline towers, whereas I think WMEX from Quincy > only used two towers. The old 5-kW 1510 facility only had to protect one station, WLAC in Nashville.[1] (Because it was That Old -- WLAC has a big null in the direction of Boston.) Any new 1510 facility has to protect not only WLAC but all the other stations left on 1510 (including those dead Canadian stations), because it's now junior to them. -GAWollman [1] The 50-kW 1510 facility *also* protected KGA Spokane, which it wouldn't have to today, but I'm not sure if it actually had to so then or it was just a design convenience to get symmetric nulls with modest backfill out of the old four-tower rhombus array. From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 2 23:17:51 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 23:17:51 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I guess Ed Perry was smart enough not to want that Waltham facility.? Does he intend to continue simulcasting WATD or does he have some other plan for the station?? Or don't we know? On 7/2/2018 3:30 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 00:12:59 -0400 > From: A Joseph Ross > > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > > Subject: Re: WMEX lives > > Are they still on?? I was in Waltham today, where I would have > expected > a good signal, and got what sounded like a distant station, which > didn't > sound like WATD either. > > ?WMEX 1510 came on with the WATD simulcast ?Saturday morning through > the day Sunday. Sometime Sunday evening it sounded like it lost the > audio feed from WATD and there was a blank carrier (with some spurious > noise) on 1510 through Sunday night. I didn't check earlier today > (Monday) but now as of 3 PM WMEX is simulcasting WATD again. > > I would not expect a good, or necessarily even audible, signal in > Waltham from the current WMEX transmitter site. It is no longer > transmitting from the Waltham site that 1510 moved to in the early > 1980's. WATD owner Ed Perry did not include that site (or use of it) > in his purchase of WMEX, and those towers were taken down about a > month ago. > > Ed has WMEX transmitting from the 1260 WBIX site at the Milton/North > Quincy line (very near where the original 1510 WMEX transmitter was > before its move to Waltham) on a temporary low power transmitter just > to get the station on the air before the FCC would have deleted the > license after June 30. The signal is very weak to non-existent due > west and northwest of Boston. > > I don't know the current power but it may be just a hundred watts or > so. A 10,000 watt daytime signal is planned from that site by this > fall but still down to 100 watts at night (all non-directional). > > It is very weak where I live in Somerville. In my travels over the > weekend it was very weak in Cambridge, Allston/Brighton and Brookline, > and I couldn't hear much of it farther west or northwest that that, > though it did put a fair signal southwest, I heard it in Dedham, > Westwood, Norwood. > > It's spotty in downtown Boston proper, listenable in places. Of > course, it's strong in the southerly Boston neighborhoods including > Dorchester, South Boston, Mattapan, Hyde Park, W. Roxbury, etc... and > the closer you are to the water, the better it is. It's fair at Logan > Airport, East Boston and Charlestown, and can be heard on the lower > North Shore such as Revere, Lynn, etc... I saw someone else post that > it came in well down the South Shore through Braintree but was fading > by Weymouth Landing. > > EP > > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 2 23:21:42 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 23:21:42 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: <008901d41268$9de3ae70$d9ab0b50$@comcast.net> References: <008901d41268$9de3ae70$d9ab0b50$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5b721c7e-d4a3-b6ab-7a0f-1112ceee972e@attorneyross.com> I used to be able to listen to WMEX in Bedford, with good reception in the daytime, but night reception was sometimes hard.? A few years later, when I was in law school, I was driving home one night after dark and found that, on the car radio, WMEX reception was fine until I turned off the main road into the neighborhood where we lived. On 7/2/2018 8:56 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > This is probably a dumb question, but since 1510 is using one of the 1260 towers, which are very close to where 1510's towers were before the move to Waltham, could 1510 use additional WBIX towers and develop a pattern similar to what WMEX had in the good ol' days? Even with the 5kW WMEX had from Quincy, it very easily served cities/towns up and down the coast at night, including Boston. My parents used to listen to Jerry Williams and Steve Fredericks in coastal NH and Maine. Inland was another matter of course, but 5kW up and down the coast sounds like a more sustainable proposition than flea power at night covering Quincy and not much else. I think WBIX has 3 not quite inline towers, whereas I think WMEX from Quincy only used two towers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boston-Radio-Interest On Behalf Of Scott Fybush > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 4:47 PM > To: Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> > Cc: Boston Radio Group > Subject: Re: WMEX lives > > STA for 1000 watts daytime only from the 1260 site... granted June 6, on the air June 29-30. That reset the one-year silent clock. > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2018, 4:01 PM Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > >> That's strange. The FCC database dosn't show a CP, but only an >> application, for the new WMEX site. How are they able to get on the air? >> >> >> Rob >> >> On Sat, 30 Jun 2018, Bob Nelson wrote: >> >>> Word from Eli Polonsky that WMEX 1510 made it back on air today, >>> with low power testing simulcasting WATD.This just beat the FCC >>> deadline to get on or lose the license. >>> >>> Oldies DJ Jimmy Jay says they'll resume regular broadcasting around >>> Sept >> 18 >>> and he will have a late morning show. >>> > > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Jul 3 02:29:10 2018 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 02:29:10 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Perry has said oldies and news and sports with a South Shore focus. DJ Jimmy James says they plan to return in Sept and he will be on 9 am-1 pm with oldies. It won't simply repeat WATD and will have an FM translator.Maybe it can also broadcast on his AM 1460 in Brockton when that goes on and that too will have an FM translator on same frequency (100.1 IIRC or was it 101.1...) On Mon, Jul 2, 2018, 11:19 PM A Joseph Ross wrote: > I guess Ed Perry was smart enough not to want that Waltham facility. > Does he intend to continue simulcasting WATD or does he have some other > plan for the station? Or don't we know? > > On 7/2/2018 3:30 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > > > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 00:12:59 -0400 > > From: A Joseph Ross > > > > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > > > > Subject: Re: WMEX lives > > > > Are they still on?? I was in Waltham today, where I would have > > expected > > a good signal, and got what sounded like a distant station, which > > didn't > > sound like WATD either. > > > > ?WMEX 1510 came on with the WATD simulcast ?Saturday morning through > > the day Sunday. Sometime Sunday evening it sounded like it lost the > > audio feed from WATD and there was a blank carrier (with some spurious > > noise) on 1510 through Sunday night. I didn't check earlier today > > (Monday) but now as of 3 PM WMEX is simulcasting WATD again. > > > > I would not expect a good, or necessarily even audible, signal in > > Waltham from the current WMEX transmitter site. It is no longer > > transmitting from the Waltham site that 1510 moved to in the early > > 1980's. WATD owner Ed Perry did not include that site (or use of it) > > in his purchase of WMEX, and those towers were taken down about a > > month ago. > > > > Ed has WMEX transmitting from the 1260 WBIX site at the Milton/North > > Quincy line (very near where the original 1510 WMEX transmitter was > > before its move to Waltham) on a temporary low power transmitter just > > to get the station on the air before the FCC would have deleted the > > license after June 30. The signal is very weak to non-existent due > > west and northwest of Boston. > > > > I don't know the current power but it may be just a hundred watts or > > so. A 10,000 watt daytime signal is planned from that site by this > > fall but still down to 100 watts at night (all non-directional). > > > > It is very weak where I live in Somerville. In my travels over the > > weekend it was very weak in Cambridge, Allston/Brighton and Brookline, > > and I couldn't hear much of it farther west or northwest that that, > > though it did put a fair signal southwest, I heard it in Dedham, > > Westwood, Norwood. > > > > It's spotty in downtown Boston proper, listenable in places. Of > > course, it's strong in the southerly Boston neighborhoods including > > Dorchester, South Boston, Mattapan, Hyde Park, W. Roxbury, etc... and > > the closer you are to the water, the better it is. It's fair at Logan > > Airport, East Boston and Charlestown, and can be heard on the lower > > North Shore such as Revere, Lynn, etc... I saw someone else post that > > it came in well down the South Shore through Braintree but was fading > > by Weymouth Landing. > > > > EP > > > > > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Tue Jul 3 09:53:28 2018 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 09:53:28 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: <008901d41268$9de3ae70$d9ab0b50$@comcast.net> References: <008901d41268$9de3ae70$d9ab0b50$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20180703094743.006d6ce0@plymouthcolony.net> At 08:56 PM 7/2/2018, Jim Hall wrote: >... could 1510 use additional WBIX towers and develop a pattern similar to what WMEX had in the good ol' days? That is not likely, as the bearings of the station(s) protected by WBIX are not likely to be the same as the bearings of the station(s) protected by WMEX. It is almost always the case that, when adding an additional directional station to an existing DA site, at least one additional new tower (and sometimes more) have to be added to the array. Dale H. Cook, Radio Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From 011010001@interpring.com Tue Jul 3 11:15:54 2018 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 11:15:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They only stayed on the air for two days? I thought the FCC wasn't allowing that any more. Rob On Mon, 2 Jul 2018, Scott Fybush wrote: > STA for 1000 watts daytime only from the 1260 site... granted June 6, on the > air June 29-30. That reset the one-year silent clock.? > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2018, 4:01 PM Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > That's strange. The FCC database dosn't show a CP, but only an > application, for the new WMEX site. How are they able to get on > the air? > > > Rob > > On Sat, 30 Jun 2018, Bob Nelson wrote: > > > Word from Eli Polonsky that WMEX 1510 made it back on air > today, with low > > power testing simulcasting WATD.This just beat the FCC > deadline to get on > > or lose the license. > > > > Oldies DJ Jimmy Jay says they'll resume regular broadcasting > around Sept 18 > > and he will have a late morning show. > > > > > From elipolo881@gmail.com Tue Jul 3 04:09:13 2018 From: elipolo881@gmail.com (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 04:09:13 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 11:17 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > I guess Ed Perry was smart enough not to want that Waltham facility. Does > he intend to continue simulcasting WATD or does he have some other plan for > the station? Or don't we know? > ?The plan I've seen posted by some people involved, beginning in mid-September with the upgrade to 10,000 watts daytime (and the signing on of an FM translator on 101.1 based in Weymouth), is to simulcast the WATD South Shore Morning News magazine show during weekday morning drive until 9 AM, then break away for a 1960s/1970s Pop/Rock'n'Roll ?Oldies format, paying some homage to the Top 40 heyday of the original WMEX (probably with some unearthed vintage jingles and retro sounding production, etc...) and also evolving the format with a bit of later music that fits from the '80s and beyond sprinkled in. As Ed does with WATD, this music format will be frequently cut in to with local news updates and community service elements. Longtime New England DJ on various stations (plus host of his own syndicated oldies show run Sunday nights on WATD) Jimmy Jay, who hosted a Saturday evening oldies show on the last incarnation of WMEX, claims to be scheduled for the 9 AM - 1 PM weekday slot. Though I don't have any further information, I'd speculate on some evening public affairs programming more specific to the South Shore (like WATD) with the nighttime signal downgrade and the FM translator that will be mainly a South Shore signal, and perhaps some "deeper" oldies specialty shows on weekends similar to WATD. Ed is also reportedly planning some separate programming later this year for a revived 1460 AM in Brockton called WATD (AM), and has an FM translator applied for that as well, also on 101.1. His two FM translators will be directionally nulled toward each other to minimize mutual interference. EP From elipolo881@gmail.com Tue Jul 3 12:21:36 2018 From: elipolo881@gmail.com (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 12:21:36 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 11:57 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > As a follow-up to Eli?s message: Quincy and Brockton could both use an > authoritative local news source. The local daily papers, like all print > outlets, have dropped in quality in recent years. I would love to see the > revived WMEX and 1460 (Ed ? any chance you can restore the WBET calls? > Please?) do some local sports coverage, too. > ?I have seen posted by people involved that there will be local South Shore and Metro-South sports coverage, school games, etc... on these stations as well as local news and community events/service coverage, as Ed has always done on WATD. The Brockton station, though currently off the air, is licensed as WATD (AM). Don't know if Ed would want to bother spending money on switching to "Brockton heritage" call letters. He didn't have to switch 1510's calls, it was already WMEX from the last owner. EP From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Tue Jul 3 13:16:28 2018 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 13:16:28 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20180703094743.006d6ce0@plymouthcolony.net> References: <008901d41268$9de3ae70$d9ab0b50$@comcast.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20180703094743.006d6ce0@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20180703131158.02036b98@plymouthcolony.net> At 09:53 AM 7/3/2018, Dale H. Cook wrote: >... at least one additional new tower (and sometimes more) have to be added to the array. What I forgot to mention is that the networks involved in combining two DAs in one site are far more expensive than, and far more difficult to adjust properly than, the phasing networks for a single DA station. What would be required to get WMEX additional coverage through a DA would cost far more in time, effort, and especially money, than the results would justify. Dale H. Cook, Radio Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Tue Jul 3 13:23:32 2018 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 13:23:32 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: <008901d41268$9de3ae70$d9ab0b50$@comcast.net> References: <008901d41268$9de3ae70$d9ab0b50$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20180703131734.02036f70@plymouthcolony.net> At 08:56 PM 7/2/2018, Jim Hall wrote: >This is probably a dumb question ... It is not a dumb question if you don't have the background to know the answer, but based upon my nearly 40 years as a DA engineer including diplexed AMs I judge that it is is not feasible. Remember that Ed is a design engineer who knows what is involved in what he is doing. Diplexing a non-directional WMEX into the WBIX site will be difficult enough, and, knowing Ed (for some decades) I am certain that he roughly evaluated and quickly rejected anything more ambitious. Dale H. Cook, Radio Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From elipolo881@gmail.com Tue Jul 3 14:08:25 2018 From: elipolo881@gmail.com (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 14:08:25 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives Message-ID: > > Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 11:15:54 -0400 (EDT) > From: Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> > To: Scott Fybush > Cc: Bob Nelson , Boston Radio Group > > Subject: Re: WMEX lives > > They only stayed on the air for two days? I thought the FCC wasn't > allowing that any more. > ?It has been on the air since Saturday morning. It's still on today (Tuesday), the fourth day. I don't know of any date limit for the test broadcast. It lost the audio feed from WATD for some technical reason Sunday evening, but it was back on Monday.? EP From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Tue Jul 3 11:57:14 2018 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 11:57:14 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As a follow-up to Eli?s message: Quincy and Brockton could both use an authoritative local news source. The local daily papers, like all print outlets, have dropped in quality in recent years. I would love to see the revived WMEX and 1460 (Ed ? any chance you can restore the WBET calls? Please?) do some local sports coverage, too. -- Sent from my iPhone From astelle.donald@gmail.com Tue Jul 3 23:35:09 2018 From: astelle.donald@gmail.com (Don) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 23:35:09 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives References: Message-ID: <34B1AAB7CD664E30AE6D4992137ADEEB@ownerd8aa55a4d> >> Jimmy Jay, who hosted a Saturday evening oldies show on the last incarnation of WMEX, claims to be scheduled for the 9 AM - 1 PM weekday slot.<< Good grief! Wasn't he the guy that was on the weekends of the old incarnation of WMEX? Not sure how he made his way to Ed Perry and onto the station schedule before it even officially hits the air. (With a precise airshift ---9A-1P---No less?). That said, my hopes now are not very high for the new 1510AM... :-( From elipolo881@gmail.com Wed Jul 4 16:21:51 2018 From: elipolo881@gmail.com (Eli Polonsky) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 16:21:51 -0400 Subject: WMEX ives Message-ID: > > Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 23:35:09 -0400 > From: "Don" > To: > Subject: Re: WMEX lives > > >> Jimmy Jay, who hosted a Saturday evening oldies show on the > last incarnation of WMEX, claims to be scheduled for the 9 AM - 1 PM > weekday slot.<< > > Good grief! Wasn't he the guy that was on the weekends of the old > incarnation of WMEX? > > Not sure how he made his way to Ed Perry and onto the station schedule > before it even officially hits the air. > (With a precise airshift ---9A-1P---No less?). > ?Ed has been running Jimmy's recorded syndicated weekly oldies ?show "Rewind" on WATD Sunday nights 9-10 PM for several years. EP From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Jul 4 17:13:00 2018 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 17:13:00 -0400 Subject: WMEX ives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joe McMillan has been all over this WMEX thing like flies on.. .well, you know.... and are familiar if you've seen him on radio-info/discussions, etc On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > > > > Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 23:35:09 -0400 > > From: "Don" > > To: > > Subject: Re: WMEX lives > > > > >> Jimmy Jay, who hosted a Saturday evening oldies show on the > > last incarnation of WMEX, claims to be scheduled for the 9 AM - 1 PM > > weekday slot.<< > > > > Good grief! Wasn't he the guy that was on the weekends of the old > > incarnation of WMEX? > > > > Not sure how he made his way to Ed Perry and onto the station schedule > > before it even officially hits the air. > > (With a precise airshift ---9A-1P---No less?). > > > > ?Ed has been running Jimmy's recorded syndicated weekly oldies ?show > "Rewind" on WATD Sunday nights 9-10 PM for several years. > > EP > From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jul 4 22:44:43 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 22:44:43 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: <34B1AAB7CD664E30AE6D4992137ADEEB@ownerd8aa55a4d> References: <34B1AAB7CD664E30AE6D4992137ADEEB@ownerd8aa55a4d> Message-ID: <05f8959d-0c8a-9748-bad9-65140d60ac9c@attorneyross.com> My hopes are high; my expectations, not so much.? Except that Ed Perry has been successful with WATD, and he may just know what he's doing. On 7/3/2018 11:35 PM, Don wrote: > That said, my hopes now are not very high for the new 1510AM... > > :-( > > > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From denapoli137@msn.com Wed Jul 4 14:25:41 2018 From: denapoli137@msn.com (DENNIS Denapoli) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 18:25:41 +0000 Subject: WATD 1460 when I was taking to Ed about his new venture WMEX / WATD 1460 the new Transmitter will be on the Brockton / West Bridgewater line Manley Street the Brockton Station will have music and talk at night. He does have an FM Translator for his ni... Message-ID: Sent from my iPhone From w1tag@charter.net Thu Jul 5 18:50:06 2018 From: w1tag@charter.net (John Andrews) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 18:50:06 -0400 Subject: WMEX Lives Message-ID: I checked 1510 this afternoon here near Sebago Lake in Maine. There was a decent signal in the 3:00 to 4:30 PM time frame. Very clear WATD audio. Quite a bit of fading up and down -- not unusual for the upper end of the band, even in the summer. Used an Icom R75 receiver, 20 dB preamp, and a 500' wire on ground out in the woods. Perhaps a little atypical for today's AM listener... John Andrews From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Fri Jul 6 00:05:27 2018 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 00:05:27 -0400 Subject: WMEX lives In-Reply-To: <05f8959d-0c8a-9748-bad9-65140d60ac9c@attorneyross.com> References: <34B1AAB7CD664E30AE6D4992137ADEEB@ownerd8aa55a4d> <05f8959d-0c8a-9748-bad9-65140d60ac9c@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: I don?t think the expectations should be high. It?s been an irrelevant station for nearly 40 years. That said, I am rooting for it. It?s a straight WATD simulcast at this point. I heard Ed Perry talking about his plans briefly on the morning show today. I live about a mile east of the transmitter site. Maybe east-southeast? At night I got a mostly clean signal driving on Newport Ave near the site. Over by my house there?s a bit more hash. Will the WMEX translator have to protect WJIB?s? Will WGIR-FM bomb in and overrun it? -- Sent from my iPhone From attychase@comcast.net Fri Jul 6 20:04:55 2018 From: attychase@comcast.net (Attorney Chase) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 20:04:55 -0400 Subject: WATD 1460 when I was taking to Ed about his new venture WMEX References: Message-ID: <7BA95A67AC1B4A51BBD151C7AEF8B3B9@HOMEOFFICE> Sounds like he is going to be at the old WBET site, where they moved to from Belmont Street years ago. Did he purchase the site or is he renting? Who owns the site. Is the land in West Bridgewater or Brockton? You mean after all these 2 score and 12 years ago listening to lousy WMEX signal at night when I was a boy in West Bridgewater finally gets remedied all these many years after I moved out of town nearly the same number of years ago? Bob Chase > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 18:25:41 +0000 > From: DENNIS Denapoli > To: "boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org" > > Subject: WATD 1460 when I was taking to Ed about his new venture WMEX > / WATD 1460 the new Transmitter will be on the Brockton / West > Bridgewater line Manley Street the Brockton Station will have music > and talk at night. He does have an FM Translator for his ni... > Message-ID:**************************************** From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Jul 6 22:15:59 2018 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 22:15:59 -0400 Subject: WATD 1460 when I was taking to Ed about his new venture WMEX In-Reply-To: <7BA95A67AC1B4A51BBD151C7AEF8B3B9@HOMEOFFICE> References: <7BA95A67AC1B4A51BBD151C7AEF8B3B9@HOMEOFFICE> Message-ID: <9281A099-712F-4FDB-82C6-76A7FAFC6071@comcast.net> The old 1460 site is no longer standing. When/if 1460 comes back on the air, it will be on the opposite site of route 24 with just one less than 200 foot tower that still needs to be built. Jeff Lehmann > On Jul 6, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Attorney Chase wrote: > > Sounds like he is going to be at the old WBET site, where they moved to > from > Belmont Street years ago. Did he purchase the site or is he renting? Who > owns the site. Is the land in West Bridgewater or Brockton? You mean after > > all these 2 score and 12 years ago listening to lousy WMEX signal at > night > when I was a boy in West Bridgewater finally gets remedied all these many > years after I moved out of town nearly the same number of years ago? > > > Bob Chase >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 18:25:41 +0000 >> From: DENNIS Denapoli >> To: "boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org" >> >> Subject: WATD 1460 when I was taking to Ed about his new venture WMEX >> / WATD 1460 the new Transmitter will be on the Brockton / West >> Bridgewater line Manley Street the Brockton Station will have music >> and talk at night. He does have an FM Translator for his ni... >> Message-ID:**************************************** From 011010001@interpring.com Sat Jul 7 08:31:31 2018 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 08:31:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WATD 1460 when I was taking to Ed about his new venture WMEX In-Reply-To: <9281A099-712F-4FDB-82C6-76A7FAFC6071@comcast.net> References: <7BA95A67AC1B4A51BBD151C7AEF8B3B9@HOMEOFFICE> <9281A099-712F-4FDB-82C6-76A7FAFC6071@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Jul 2018, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > The old 1460 site is no longer standing. When/if 1460 comes back on the > air, it will be on the opposite site of route 24 with just one less than > 200 foot tower that still needs to be built. Why not use a Valcom whip, like WZBR AM 1410 in Hyde Park? Rob From dave@skywaves.net Sun Jul 8 02:43:15 2018 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 23:43:15 -0700 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? Message-ID: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Hello, Boston Radio Group - Has anybody noticed that WKLB is now on 96.9 as Boston's Country Station WBCS? What's playing on 102.5? I'm on a trip to the West Coast and saw a post from a friend... -d From 011010001@interpring.com Sun Jul 8 09:03:58 2018 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 09:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 7 Jul 2018, Dave Doherty wrote: > Has anybody noticed that WKLB is now on 96.9 as Boston's Country Station > WBCS? I'm hearing hip-hop on 96.9 right now, and country on 102.5. Rob From scott@fybush.com Sun Jul 8 08:37:43 2018 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 08:37:43 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ years ago! WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, replacing smooth jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB became WKLB fairly quickly, and then (in 1996 IIRC) the two country stations came under common Greater Media ownership, taking the WKLB calls on 96.9. WKLB later moved to 99.5 (trading places with smooth jazz WOAZ) and then to 102.5 (trading places with WCRB)... and it's still alive and well at 102.5. On Sun, Jul 8, 2018, 3:30 AM Dave Doherty wrote: > Hello, Boston Radio Group - > > Has anybody noticed that WKLB is now on 96.9 as Boston's Country Station > WBCS? > > What's playing on 102.5? > > I'm on a trip to the West Coast and saw a post from a friend... > > -d > > > > From dave@skywaves.net Sun Jul 8 10:24:30 2018 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 10:24:30 -0400 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_WKLB_Frequency_Change=3F?= Message-ID: <201807081024971.SM1078124@IMAIL2K8> This message was originally HTML formatted. View in a HTML capable client to see the original version.\r\n\r\nThat explains it! Thanks, Scott. -d ---- Original Message ---- From: "Scott Fybush" scott@fybush.com Sent: 7/8/2018 5:39:43 AM To: "Dave Doherty" dave@skywaves.net Cc: "Boston Radio Group" boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: WKLB Frequency Change? That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ years ago! WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, replacing smooth jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB became WKLB fairly quickly, and then (in 1996 IIRC) the two country stations came under common Greater Media ownership, taking the WKLB calls on 96.9. WKLB later moved to 99.5 (trading places with smooth jazz WOAZ) and then to 102.5 (trading places with WCRB)... and it's still alive and well at 102.5. On Sun, Jul 8, 2018, 3:30 AM Dave Doherty dave@skywaves.net wrote:Hello, Boston Radio Group - Has anybody noticed that WKLB is now on 96.9 as Boston's Country Station WBCS? What's playing on 102.5? I'm on a trip to the West Coast and saw a post from a friend... -d From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Jul 8 07:01:47 2018 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 07:01:47 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: Admittedly I'm not in the area at the moment but as far as I know there is no change.WBCS 96.9 as country existed from 1993-96 then merged with WKLB. Eventually WKLB went to 99.5, then swapped frequencies with WCRB 102.5 in 2006. Nothing on the WKLB website. I can't picture Beasley flipping what is now "Hot 96.9" WBQT and WKLB 102.5 and if they did there would be a publicity campaign, etc Where was this post? In addition, I would doubt they would change the well known call letters as well as the frequency. On Sunday, July 8, 2018, Dave Doherty wrote: > Hello, Boston Radio Group - > > Has anybody noticed that WKLB is now on 96.9 as Boston's Country Station > WBCS? > > What's playing on 102.5? > > I'm on a trip to the West Coast and saw a post from a friend... > > -d > > > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Jul 8 12:18:17 2018 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 12:18:17 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: On 7/8/2018 8:37 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ years ago! > > WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, replacing smooth > jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB became > WKLB fairly quickly, I was there, consulting WCLB when some of this occurred-- if my memory serves me well, the call letter change reflected the old Arbitron diary process of listeners being asked to remember and then write down the call letters; research showed lots of folks were getting the call letters wrong and writing down stations other than WCLB, even if that's what they were listening to.? So the management decided a K would be easier to distinguish than a C. -- Donna L. Halper, PhD Associate Professor of Communication & Media Studies Lesley University, Cambridge MA From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Sun Jul 8 15:03:31 2018 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 15:03:31 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 12:57 PM Donna Halper wrote: > On 7/8/2018 8:37 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > > That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ years > ago! > > > > WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, replacing > smooth > > jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB became > > WKLB fairly quickly, > > I was there, consulting WCLB when some of this occurred-- if my memory > serves me well, the call letter change reflected the old Arbitron diary > process of listeners being asked to remember and then write down the > call letters; research showed lots of folks were getting the call > letters wrong and writing down stations other than WCLB, even if that's > what they were listening to. So the management decided a K would be > easier to distinguish than a C. > IIRC, WCRB (oh, the irony) and Channel 5 both weren?t thrilled. Pretty sure the CLB stood for ?Boston?s country club.? If anyone had said then the station would survive on three frequencies over 25 years, you would?ve laughed. Country had been out of the market for a few years since WBOS dropped it. > -- Sent from my iPhone From rbello@belloassoc.com Sun Jul 8 22:47:13 2018 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 22:47:13 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: and didn?t Fairbanks move the WCLB calls to another of their stations ? Don?t know if it is still ? there but for many years after the call letter change and studios had moved to the Pru, there was a sign at the top of the Edgell Rd / Main Street ramp from route 9 in Framingham to the studios? On Sunday, July 8, 2018, Donna Halper wrote: > On 7/8/2018 8:37 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > >> That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ years >> ago! >> >> WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, replacing >> smooth >> jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB became >> WKLB fairly quickly, >> > > I was there, consulting WCLB when some of this occurred-- if my memory > serves me well, the call letter change reflected the old Arbitron diary > process of listeners being asked to remember and then write down the call > letters; research showed lots of folks were getting the call letters wrong > and writing down stations other than WCLB, even if that's what they were > listening to. So the management decided a K would be easier to distinguish > than a C. > > -- > Donna L. Halper, PhD > Associate Professor of Communication & Media Studies > Lesley University, Cambridge MA > > From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Jul 9 02:00:14 2018 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 02:00:14 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: 105.7 has had an interesting history going back to its WKOX-FM days. In the mid 60's a very unlikely station was #1 in Boston overall with a limited signal on 1260 AM (WEZE) and WKOX-FM adopted the format and developed a strong following with affluent listeners.This in turn prompted Kaiser//Globe to launch WJIB. WKOX-FM waved the white flag and went to Top 40 in 1969 and 2 years later were sold to Fairbanks and became WVBF. On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 12:34 AM Ron Bello wrote: > and didn?t Fairbanks move the WCLB calls to another of their stations ? > > Don?t know if it is still > ? there but for many years after the call letter change and studios had > moved to the Pru, > > there was a sign at the top of the Edgell Rd / Main Street ramp from route > 9 in Framingham to the studios? > > > > > On Sunday, July 8, 2018, Donna Halper wrote: > > > On 7/8/2018 8:37 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > > > >> That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ years > >> ago! > >> > >> WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, replacing > >> smooth > >> jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB > became > >> WKLB fairly quickly, > >> > > > > I was there, consulting WCLB when some of this occurred-- if my memory > > serves me well, the call letter change reflected the old Arbitron diary > > process of listeners being asked to remember and then write down the call > > letters; research showed lots of folks were getting the call letters > wrong > > and writing down stations other than WCLB, even if that's what they were > > listening to. So the management decided a K would be easier to > distinguish > > than a C. > > > > -- > > Donna L. Halper, PhD > > Associate Professor of Communication & Media Studies > > Lesley University, Cambridge MA > > > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 9 02:28:50 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 02:28:50 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: <22891ef3-8ab3-c15e-aad4-e78c258a3bc0@attorneyross.com> 105.7 is also ex-WKOX-FM.? In fact, that's what it started as. On 7/8/2018 8:37 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ years ago! > > WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, replacing smooth > jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB became > WKLB fairly quickly, and then (in 1996 IIRC) the two country stations came > under common Greater Media ownership, taking the WKLB calls on 96.9. WKLB > later moved to 99.5 (trading places with smooth jazz WOAZ) and then to > 102.5 (trading places with WCRB)... and it's still alive and well at 102.5. > > On Sun, Jul 8, 2018, 3:30 AM Dave Doherty wrote: > >> Hello, Boston Radio Group - >> >> Has anybody noticed that WKLB is now on 96.9 as Boston's Country Station >> WBCS? >> >> What's playing on 102.5? >> >> I'm on a trip to the West Coast and saw a post from a friend... >> >> -d >> >> >> >> -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 9 02:30:25 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 02:30:25 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: I thought I had heard that WCRB suddenly jumped in the ratings, and that jump was attributed to people saying they were listening to WCRB when they were actually listening to WCLB. On 7/8/2018 12:18 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > On 7/8/2018 8:37 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: >> That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ >> years ago! >> >> WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, replacing >> smooth >> jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB >> became >> WKLB fairly quickly, > > I was there, consulting WCLB when some of this occurred-- if my memory > serves me well, the call letter change reflected the old Arbitron > diary process of listeners being asked to remember and then write down > the call letters; research showed lots of folks were getting the call > letters wrong and writing down stations other than WCLB, even if > that's what they were listening to.? So the management decided a K > would be easier to distinguish than a C. > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Jul 9 03:28:23 2018 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 03:28:23 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: Joe Ratings in Boston are all digital now - call signs mean NOTHING WMJX took a hit a couple of years ago when Dunkin Donuts rolled out in-house radio - previously all franchises in Boston were ordered to tune in 106.7 Today we have three different owners in Boston sharing the WBZ calls on AM-FM-TV On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:02 AM A Joseph Ross wrote: > I thought I had heard that WCRB suddenly jumped in the ratings, and that > jump was attributed to people saying they were listening to WCRB when > they were actually listening to WCLB. > > > On 7/8/2018 12:18 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > > On 7/8/2018 8:37 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > >> That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ > >> years ago! > >> > >> WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, replacing > >> smooth > >> jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB > >> became > >> WKLB fairly quickly, > > > > I was there, consulting WCLB when some of this occurred-- if my memory > > serves me well, the call letter change reflected the old Arbitron > > diary process of listeners being asked to remember and then write down > > the call letters; research showed lots of folks were getting the call > > letters wrong and writing down stations other than WCLB, even if > > that's what they were listening to. So the management decided a K > > would be easier to distinguish than a C. > > > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Jul 9 07:05:00 2018 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 07:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 8 Jul 2018, Ron Bello wrote: > Don?t know if it is still there but for many years after the call letter > change and studios had moved to the Pru, there was a sign at the top of > the Edgell Rd / Main Street ramp from route 9 in Framingham to the > studios? I have made a lot of trips to the Mt. Wayte Avenue studios (now occupied by WSRO) in the past five years, but have never seen that sign. Like the one at the Newton St./Route 30 intersection in Weston that used to point to WCRB, I suspect it is long gone. Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Jul 9 07:07:47 2018 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 07:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, A Joseph Ross wrote: > I thought I had heard that WCRB suddenly jumped in the ratings, and that > jump was attributed to people saying they were listening to WCRB when > they were actually listening to WCLB. That's correct. A similar bump in WILD's ratings occured shortly after the debut of WODS on 103.3, which people wrote in as "WOLD". Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Jul 9 07:08:57 2018 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 07:08:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Today we have three different owners in Boston sharing the WBZ calls on > AM-FM-TV How long is that going to last, I wonder? Will 1030 become WWBZ or some such? Rob From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Jul 9 02:46:20 2018 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 02:46:20 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: Yes, CLB stood for Country CLuB. They played a song called "(I'm a member of a) Country Club" by Travis Tritt, IIRC in promos. WCRB and Ch 5 indeed were not thrilled by the call letter similarity. I don't think WBCN complained about WBCS but who knows. During summer tropo season, a friend picked up WBCS Country 96.9 Boston while in Wisconsin, including ads for Boston businesses. "Wisconsin's Best Country Station", he quipped. After becoming WKLB:"Boston spells country with a K" On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 12:34 AM Ron Bello wrote: > and didn?t Fairbanks move the WCLB calls to another of their stations ? > > Don?t know if it is still > ? there but for many years after the call letter change and studios had > moved to the Pru, > > there was a sign at the top of the Edgell Rd / Main Street ramp from route > 9 in Framingham to the studios? > > > > > On Sunday, July 8, 2018, Donna Halper wrote: > > > On 7/8/2018 8:37 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > > > >> That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ years > >> ago! > >> > >> WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, replacing > >> smooth > >> jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB > became > >> WKLB fairly quickly, > >> > > > > I was there, consulting WCLB when some of this occurred-- if my memory > > serves me well, the call letter change reflected the old Arbitron diary > > process of listeners being asked to remember and then write down the call > > letters; research showed lots of folks were getting the call letters > wrong > > and writing down stations other than WCLB, even if that's what they were > > listening to. So the management decided a K would be easier to > distinguish > > than a C. > > > > -- > > Donna L. Halper, PhD > > Associate Professor of Communication & Media Studies > > Lesley University, Cambridge MA > > > > > From astelle.donald@gmail.com Mon Jul 9 14:42:31 2018 From: astelle.donald@gmail.com (Don) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 14:42:31 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: <5170C9EF9C9645C0A3DF8D402D5FD8A0@ownerd8aa55a4d> >> WKOX-FM waved the white flag and went to Top >> 40 in 1969 and 2 years later were sold to Fairbanks and became WVBF. Who owned them before Fairbanks? Did this kickoff of WVBF by Fairbanks involve the Johns brothers? From astelle.donald@gmail.com Mon Jul 9 14:47:21 2018 From: astelle.donald@gmail.com (Don) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 14:47:21 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: <7F154545AF284F2DA9F39FF462BD0714@ownerd8aa55a4d> >> Ratings in Boston are all digital now - call signs mean NOTHING The time Joe is talking about was when paper/written diaries were still analog. WCRB had some phenomenal ratings** during a time when Country 105.7 was trying to get raction, and the Fairbanks people thought WCRB was getting audience that belonged to them. I think they found out differently when they changed the calls and their ratings tayed low. **At one point WCRB was considred the most successful Classical station in America. (I think they got a 4.5 in the ratings.) This was also at a time when WCRB started playing "movements", and utilized standard radio rotations of playing the most popular peices more often. Much to the chagrin of the Classical afficienados. ;-) From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 9 16:47:14 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 16:47:14 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: That's now, but back then it was different. On 7/9/2018 3:28 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Joe > > Ratings in Boston are all digital now - call signs mean NOTHING > > WMJX took a hit a couple of years ago when Dunkin Donuts rolled out > in-house radio - previously all franchises in Boston were ordered to > tune in 106.7 > > Today we have three different owners in Boston sharing the WBZ calls > on AM-FM-TV > > > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:02 AM A Joseph Ross > wrote: > > I thought I had heard that WCRB suddenly jumped in the ratings, > and that > jump was attributed to people saying they were listening to WCRB when > they were actually listening to WCLB. > > > On 7/8/2018 12:18 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > > On 7/8/2018 8:37 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > >> That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ > >> years ago! > >> > >> WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, > replacing > >> smooth > >> jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB > >> became > >> WKLB fairly quickly, > > > > I was there, consulting WCLB when some of this occurred-- if my > memory > > serves me well, the call letter change reflected the old Arbitron > > diary process of listeners being asked to remember and then > write down > > the call letters; research showed lots of folks were getting the > call > > letters wrong and writing down stations other than WCLB, even if > > that's what they were listening to.? So the management decided a K > > would be easier to distinguish than a C. > > > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA > 02459 > 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459-2004 617.367.0468 ? Fx: 617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 9 16:46:23 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 16:46:23 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: <5e5c04f5-6b05-afe9-ac20-6498c84dc3c9@attorneyross.com> I believe there actually was a lawsuit between WBCN and WBCS, which WBCN lost, probably over unfair competition.? I can't find the case now, but I do remember reading the opinion, either by the Massachusetts Appeals Court or the Supreme Judicial Court.? As I recall, the court decided that few if any listeners would mistake the reverently patriotic country station WBCS for the irreverent anti-patriotic WBCN. On 7/9/2018 2:46 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > Yes, CLB stood for Country CLuB. They played a song called "(I'm a member > of a) Country Club" by Travis Tritt, IIRC in promos. > > WCRB and Ch 5 indeed were not thrilled by the call letter similarity. I > don't think WBCN complained about WBCS but who knows. > During summer tropo season, a friend picked up WBCS Country 96.9 Boston > while in Wisconsin, including ads for Boston businesses. "Wisconsin's Best > Country Station", he quipped. > > After becoming WKLB:"Boston spells country with a K" > > > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 12:34 AM Ron Bello wrote: > >> and didn?t Fairbanks move the WCLB calls to another of their stations ? >> >> Don?t know if it is still >> ? there but for many years after the call letter change and studios had >> moved to the Pru, >> >> there was a sign at the top of the Edgell Rd / Main Street ramp from route >> 9 in Framingham to the studios? >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, July 8, 2018, Donna Halper wrote: >> >>> On 7/8/2018 8:37 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: >>> >>>> That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ years >>>> ago! >>>> >>>> WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, replacing >>>> smooth >>>> jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB >> became >>>> WKLB fairly quickly, >>>> >>> I was there, consulting WCLB when some of this occurred-- if my memory >>> serves me well, the call letter change reflected the old Arbitron diary >>> process of listeners being asked to remember and then write down the call >>> letters; research showed lots of folks were getting the call letters >> wrong >>> and writing down stations other than WCLB, even if that's what they were >>> listening to. So the management decided a K would be easier to >> distinguish >>> than a C. >>> >>> -- >>> Donna L. Halper, PhD >>> Associate Professor of Communication & Media Studies >>> Lesley University, Cambridge MA >>> >>> -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459-2004 617.367.0468 ? Fx: 617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From LostCluster@LostCluster.me Mon Jul 9 18:33:12 2018 From: LostCluster@LostCluster.me (Ben Levy) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 18:33:12 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: Callsigns are still needed to report a violation to the FCC? and COL is useful in determining where you are when lost. Ben > On Jul 9, 2018, at 4:47:14 PM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > That's now, but back then it was different. > > > On 7/9/2018 3:28 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> Joe >> >> Ratings in Boston are all digital now - call signs mean NOTHING >> >> WMJX took a hit a couple of years ago when Dunkin Donuts rolled out in-house radio - previously all franchises in Boston were ordered to tune in 106.7 >> >> Today we have three different owners in Boston sharing the WBZ calls on AM-FM-TV >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:02 AM A Joseph Ross > wrote: >> >> I thought I had heard that WCRB suddenly jumped in the ratings, >> and that >> jump was attributed to people saying they were listening to WCRB when >> they were actually listening to WCLB. >> >> >> On 7/8/2018 12:18 PM, Donna Halper wrote: >> > On 7/8/2018 8:37 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: >> >> That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ >> >> years ago! >> >> >> >> WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, >> replacing >> >> smooth >> >> jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB >> >> became >> >> WKLB fairly quickly, >> > >> > I was there, consulting WCLB when some of this occurred-- if my >> memory >> > serves me well, the call letter change reflected the old Arbitron >> > diary process of listeners being asked to remember and then >> write down >> > the call letters; research showed lots of folks were getting the >> call >> > letters wrong and writing down stations other than WCLB, even if >> > that's what they were listening to. So the management decided a K >> > would be easier to distinguish than a C. >> > >> >> -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA >> 02459 >> 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com >> > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459-2004 > 617.367.0468 ? Fx: 617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From tgordo49@gmail.com Mon Jul 9 00:08:37 2018 From: tgordo49@gmail.com (Tim Gordon) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 00:08:37 -0400 Subject: 92.9 FM power cut? Message-ID: Since this past Friday or Saturday I can no longer get enough of a signal to listen to Bloomberg Radio Boston on 92.9HD2 in 99% of the Boston Metro West/NorthWest area where I've been listening for months. Does anyone know what's happened, and if it is permanent? Thanks, Tim Gordon From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 9 23:17:18 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 23:17:18 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: <8ae8cdb8-4fe8-4573-42ff-c3861b03ed07@attorneyross.com> I thought WBZ was always #1 in those days. On 7/9/2018 2:00 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > 105.7 has had an interesting history going back to its WKOX-FM days. > > In the mid 60's a very unlikely station was #1 in Boston overall with a > limited signal on 1260 AM (WEZE) and WKOX-FM adopted the format and > developed a strong following with affluent listeners.This in turn prompted > Kaiser//Globe to launch WJIB. WKOX-FM waved the white flag and went to Top > 40 in 1969 and 2 years later were sold to Fairbanks and became WVBF. > > > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 12:34 AM Ron Bello wrote: > >> and didn?t Fairbanks move the WCLB calls to another of their stations ? >> >> Don?t know if it is still >> ? there but for many years after the call letter change and studios had >> moved to the Pru, >> >> there was a sign at the top of the Edgell Rd / Main Street ramp from route >> 9 in Framingham to the studios? >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, July 8, 2018, Donna Halper wrote: >> >>> On 7/8/2018 8:37 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: >>> >>>> That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ years >>>> ago! >>>> >>>> WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, replacing >>>> smooth >>>> jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB >> became >>>> WKLB fairly quickly, >>>> >>> I was there, consulting WCLB when some of this occurred-- if my memory >>> serves me well, the call letter change reflected the old Arbitron diary >>> process of listeners being asked to remember and then write down the call >>> letters; research showed lots of folks were getting the call letters >> wrong >>> and writing down stations other than WCLB, even if that's what they were >>> listening to. So the management decided a K would be easier to >> distinguish >>> than a C. >>> >>> -- >>> Donna L. Halper, PhD >>> Associate Professor of Communication & Media Studies >>> Lesley University, Cambridge MA >>> >>> -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 9 23:21:53 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 23:21:53 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: <7F154545AF284F2DA9F39FF462BD0714@ownerd8aa55a4d> References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> <7F154545AF284F2DA9F39FF462BD0714@ownerd8aa55a4d> Message-ID: But they got so many complaints from listeners that they stopped playing just "movements."? They continued using standard radio rotations for classical music, though, and played vocal music only around the December holiday season. Does anyone know to what extent they're doing that now? On 7/9/2018 2:47 PM, Don wrote: > **At one point WCRB was considred the most successful Classical > station in America.? (I think they got a 4.5 in the ratings.) This was > also at a time when WCRB started playing "movements", and utilized > standard radio rotations of playing the most popular peices more > often.? Much to the chagrin of the Classical afficienados.? ;-) -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From rbello@belloassoc.com Mon Jul 9 23:08:14 2018 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 23:08:14 -0400 Subject: 92.9 FM power cut? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Don't know about a power reduction @ 92.9 but Bloomberg is virtually unlistenable in Natick, Framingham and other towns west of there Take your pick of 92.9-HD2 or 1330 am or 106.1 There are a lot of businesses and money in the area who might want to listen Not a great discussion to switch from their previous home at 94.5-HD2 and 1200 am Anyone at Bloomberg listening ? --------------------------------------------------- On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Tim Gordon wrote: > Since this past Friday or Saturday I can no longer get enough of a signal > to listen to Bloomberg Radio Boston on 92.9HD2 in 99% of the Boston Metro > West/NorthWest area where I've been listening for months. Does anyone know > what's happened, and if it is permanent? > Thanks, > Tim Gordon > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Jul 10 07:17:31 2018 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 07:17:31 -0400 Subject: 92.9 FM power cut? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My guess is that it?s due to the E Skip and tropo conditions that have been happening frequently over the past week or so. There have probably been signals from far away coming in on 92.7 and 93.1 covering up the IBOC sidebands at times. Jeff Lehmann > On Jul 9, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Ron Bello wrote: > > Don't know about a power reduction @ 92.9 but Bloomberg is virtually > unlistenable in Natick, Framingham and other towns west of there > Take your pick of 92.9-HD2 or 1330 am or 106.1 > There are a lot of businesses and money in the area who might want to listen > > Not a great discussion to switch from their previous home at 94.5-HD2 and > 1200 am > > Anyone at Bloomberg listening ? > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Tim Gordon wrote: >> >> Since this past Friday or Saturday I can no longer get enough of a signal >> to listen to Bloomberg Radio Boston on 92.9HD2 in 99% of the Boston Metro >> West/NorthWest area where I've been listening for months. Does anyone know >> what's happened, and if it is permanent? >> Thanks, >> Tim Gordon >> From sids1045@aol.com Tue Jul 10 08:42:49 2018 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sidney Schweiger) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 08:42:49 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: <5D8C0293-734E-424F-A499-B0BA06642BDC@aol.com> ?Ratings in Boston are all digital now - call signs mean NOTHING? The stations whose branding is, or includes, the call sign might tend to disagree. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Jul 10 10:11:15 2018 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 10:11:15 -0400 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: "Let's change the calls..." Newsradio 1030, WIHR Boston. The Talk Station, AM 680, WZUD Boston. Boston's NPR news station, FM 89.7 WCYJ. Doesn't have quite the ring... Btw look for Entercom to push radio.com branding..here in Pitt. (on vacation) I heard TOH ID: KDKA Pittsburgh--A Radio Dot Com station On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 10:05 AM Sidney Schweiger via Boston-Radio-Interest < boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org> wrote: > ?Ratings in Boston are all digital now - call signs mean NOTHING? > > The stations whose branding is, or includes, the call sign might tend to > disagree. > > From 011010001@interpring.com Tue Jul 10 10:19:18 2018 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 10:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: <7F154545AF284F2DA9F39FF462BD0714@ownerd8aa55a4d> References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> <7F154545AF284F2DA9F39FF462BD0714@ownerd8aa55a4d> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, Don wrote: > **At one point WCRB was considred the most successful Classical station in > America. (I think they got a 4.5 in the ratings.) This was also at a time > when WCRB started playing "movements", and utilized standard radio rotations > of playing the most popular peices more often. Much to the chagrin of the > Classical afficienados. ;-) That's right. Mario Mazza was the creator of the new WCRB format, which was essentially an easy listening format built around classical music. It did push up the ratings; previous WCRB programmers had been playing too many pieces that appealed to musicians and concert goers but were not very comprehensible to the average radio listener. Boston has a large musical community, many of whose members were not at all happy with what Maro was doing. But as large and influential as these people were, there weren't enough of them to support the station. Ratings showed Mario to be correct; WGBH and WHRB, which continued to target musical sophisticates, showed no significant increases in their ratings. Mario's format survives on WFCC (Cape Cod), WCRI (Block Island), and WSCS (New London, NH). Rob From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Jul 10 06:26:52 2018 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 06:26:52 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: <8ae8cdb8-4fe8-4573-42ff-c3861b03ed07@attorneyross.com> References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> <8ae8cdb8-4fe8-4573-42ff-c3861b03ed07@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Common misconception WBZ had more listeners but many were outside the area used in ratings at the time. WEZE was in a good spot circa 1965 as 'The Wonderful World of Music' was consistent and their major competitor was WHDH that tried to juggle music, news and sports. NBC even dropped WEZE in favor of WCOP to get Monitor cleared in Boston. WBZ and WMEX fought for the younger audience with 1030 doing well in the burbs and 1510 well in the city and the North Shore. WEEI and WNAC fought over news and talk. 2 years later WRKO changed everything and it was WBZ that blinked dropping Top 40 for more MOR and going after WHDH. But WJIB 96.9 became an instant success and took most of WEZE's audience. A big part of WJIB's rise were the huge number of free ads in the Globe who was part owner of the station. Donna - Have you ever looked into Kaiser/Globe's odd decision to have 3 separate offices and studios for TV, FM and AM? ? On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:19 PM A Joseph Ross wrote: > I thought WBZ was always #1 in those days. > > On 7/9/2018 2:00 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > 105.7 has had an interesting history going back to its WKOX-FM days. > > > > In the mid 60's a very unlikely station was #1 in Boston overall with a > > limited signal on 1260 AM (WEZE) and WKOX-FM adopted the format and > > developed a strong following with affluent listeners.This in turn > prompted > > Kaiser//Globe to launch WJIB. WKOX-FM waved the white flag and went to > Top > > 40 in 1969 and 2 years later were sold to Fairbanks and became WVBF. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 12:34 AM Ron Bello wrote: > > > >> and didn?t Fairbanks move the WCLB calls to another of their stations ? > >> > >> Don?t know if it is still > >> ? there but for many years after the call letter change and studios had > >> moved to the Pru, > >> > >> there was a sign at the top of the Edgell Rd / Main Street ramp from > route > >> 9 in Framingham to the studios? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sunday, July 8, 2018, Donna Halper wrote: > >> > >>> On 7/8/2018 8:37 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > >>> > >>>> That FB post (from John Kosian) was showing off a shirt from 20+ years > >>>> ago! > >>>> > >>>> WBCS was one of two competing country stations in the 90s, replacing > >>>> smooth > >>>> jazz WCDJ. It was up against Fairbanks' WCLB 105.7 (ex-WVBF). WCLB > >> became > >>>> WKLB fairly quickly, > >>>> > >>> I was there, consulting WCLB when some of this occurred-- if my memory > >>> serves me well, the call letter change reflected the old Arbitron diary > >>> process of listeners being asked to remember and then write down the > call > >>> letters; research showed lots of folks were getting the call letters > >> wrong > >>> and writing down stations other than WCLB, even if that's what they > were > >>> listening to. So the management decided a K would be easier to > >> distinguish > >>> than a C. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Donna L. Halper, PhD > >>> Associate Professor of Communication & Media Studies > >>> Lesley University, Cambridge MA > >>> > >>> > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > From rbello@belloassoc.com Tue Jul 10 10:45:26 2018 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 10:45:26 -0400 Subject: 92.9 FM power cut? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Unfortunately for Bloomberg, this is not a recent problem Would not be an issue if transmitter had not moved from Needham to the Pru --------------------------------------------------- On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 7:17 AM, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > My guess is that it?s due to the E Skip and tropo conditions that have > been happening frequently over the past week or so. There have probably > been signals from far away coming in on 92.7 and 93.1 covering up the IBOC > sidebands at times. > > Jeff Lehmann > > > On Jul 9, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Ron Bello wrote: > > > > Don't know about a power reduction @ 92.9 but Bloomberg is virtually > > unlistenable in Natick, Framingham and other towns west of there > > Take your pick of 92.9-HD2 or 1330 am or 106.1 > > There are a lot of businesses and money in the area who might want to > listen > > > > Not a great discussion to switch from their previous home at 94.5-HD2 and > > 1200 am > > > > Anyone at Bloomberg listening ? > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Tim Gordon wrote: > >> > >> Since this past Friday or Saturday I can no longer get enough of a > signal > >> to listen to Bloomberg Radio Boston on 92.9HD2 in 99% of the Boston > Metro > >> West/NorthWest area where I've been listening for months. Does anyone > know > >> what's happened, and if it is permanent? > >> Thanks, > >> Tim Gordon > >> > > From 011010001@interpring.com Tue Jul 10 11:15:11 2018 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 11:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> <7F154545AF284F2DA9F39FF462BD0714@ownerd8aa55a4d> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, A Joseph Ross wrote: > But they got so many complaints from listeners that they stopped playing just > "movements." They didn't, though; they simply adjusted their clocks so that a longer work usually led off each hour. I know this because I wrote their music scheduling software. >?They continued using standard radio rotations for classical > music, though, and played vocal music only around the December holiday > season. > Does anyone know to what extent they're doing that now? The current PD, whose name I've momentarily forgotten, is an old rival of Mario's with more or less the same ideas, but he's running some pieces Mario did't play. Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Tue Jul 10 11:19:12 2018 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 11:19:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, Bob Nelson wrote: > "Let's change the calls..." > Newsradio 1030, WIHR Boston. > The Talk Station, AM 680, WZUD Boston. > Boston's NPR news station, FM 89.7 WCYJ. > Doesn't have quite the ring... That's only because the call letters of those stations are well-known brands going back decades. But many Boston stations have changed call signs any number of times. How many call letters has 96.9 gone through since it was WJIB? > Btw look for Entercom to push radio.com branding..here in Pitt. (on > vacation) I heard TOH ID: KDKA Pittsburgh--A Radio Dot Com station WBZ now identifies itself as "an Eyeheart radio station". Rob From rbello@belloassoc.com Tue Jul 10 10:48:21 2018 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 10:48:21 -0400 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: Entercom is pushing radio.com branding on WEEI-FM --------------------------------------------------- On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > "Let's change the calls..." > Newsradio 1030, WIHR Boston. > The Talk Station, AM 680, WZUD Boston. > Boston's NPR news station, FM 89.7 WCYJ. > Doesn't have quite the ring... > > Btw look for Entercom to push radio.com branding..here in Pitt. (on > vacation) I heard TOH ID: KDKA Pittsburgh--A Radio > Dot Com station > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 10:05 AM Sidney Schweiger via Boston-Radio-Interest < > boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org> wrote: > > > ?Ratings in Boston are all digital now - call signs mean NOTHING? > > > > The stations whose branding is, or includes, the call sign might tend to > > disagree. > > > > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Jul 10 12:38:17 2018 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 12:38:17 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> <8ae8cdb8-4fe8-4573-42ff-c3861b03ed07@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <416e0426-a1ef-b205-5fde-e91744aa2478@donnahalper.com> On 7/10/2018 6:26 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > WEZE was in a good spot circa 1965 as 'The Wonderful World of Music' was > consistent and their major competitor was WHDH that tried to juggle music, > news and sports. NBC even dropped WEZE in favor of WCOP to get Monitor > cleared in Boston. WBZ and WMEX fought for the younger audience with 1030 doing well in the > burbs and 1510 well in the city and the North Shore. And many of us who worked in Boston still remember walking past the WEZE studios (street-level, Statler Office Building, in Park Square), and watching the announcers on the air. Kevin wrote-- > Donna - Have you ever looked into Kaiser/Globe's odd decision to have 3 > separate offices and studios for TV, FM and AM? Bob Bitner might know something more about that.? It's been a while since I did any research on Kaiser-Globe.? But as I recall, the company made other puzzling decisions too. Kaiser was an Oakland CA based firm, weren't they? And I do recall (vaguely) WKBG-TV going on the air in late 1966.? It seems the company's execs weren't always sure how to handle the various media properties they owned in Boston, and evidently, they did not want to give the impression that they were trying to consolidate them all into one unit-- this was, of course, the era before media consolidation became popular. They also owned individual properties on the west coast, including a TV station in Los Angeles, and KFOG Radio in San Francisco.? Anyway, I'm fairly certain they had separate GMs and even separate sales staff at their various Boston properties. But I don't recall much more than that. -- Donna L. Halper, PhD Associate Professor of Communication & Media Studies Lesley University, Cambridge MA From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Jul 10 13:34:04 2018 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:34:04 -0400 Subject: WEZE 1965 was Re: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: <416e0426-a1ef-b205-5fde-e91744aa2478@donnahalper.com> References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> <8ae8cdb8-4fe8-4573-42ff-c3861b03ed07@attorneyross.com> <416e0426-a1ef-b205-5fde-e91744aa2478@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: I remember Roy Leonard telling me just before he died that WEZE offered him a generous contract to leave WNAC but they couldn't match the additional money he earned by being a boot announcer at Channel 7. However, he laughed and said if I had moved I wouldn't have been laid off except for doing booth announcing at RKO General when AM became WRKO and wouldn't have taken the summer relief job at WGN that was supposed to be for 15 weeks and lasted 30 years. I remember my Dad switched to WEZE because Jess Cain talked too much. The amazing thing is 50 plus years ago nobody saw FM as a threat to AM. Detroit automakers were not mandated to put FM in cars. Mac Richmond said his biggest mistake was not buying WBOS-FM when it was available for cheap money. Westinghouse was clueless with WBZ-FM and CBS tried to make WEEI-FM work but nothing stuck. If you look back in the history of fulltime AM stations in Boston they all had their time at the top except for WCOP and WBOS/WUNR. But even 1600 had Ken Mayer who had a substantial cult following between Midnight and 2 AM every Monday. WCOP had a slight run with Top 40 but their night signal was worse than WMEX. Ken Carter hosted a very successful dance show on Saturday's in Cambridge but otherwise not much except national NBC sports events like the World Series. WCOP did have a sports director in the late 60's who could do everything and then moved to New York - Dom Valentino I remember Dom doing a soccer game from Lynn on 1150 and he could not hear the station at the Manning Bowl. https://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/24/sports/the-faded-voice-of-sports-calls-past.html?pagewanted=all On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 12:38 PM Donna Halper wrote: > On 7/10/2018 6:26 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > WEZE was in a good spot circa 1965 as 'The Wonderful World of Music' was > > consistent and their major competitor was WHDH that tried to juggle > music, > > news and sports. NBC even dropped WEZE in favor of WCOP to get Monitor > > cleared in Boston. WBZ and WMEX fought for the younger audience with > 1030 doing well in the > > burbs and 1510 well in the city and the North Shore. > > And many of us who worked in Boston still remember walking past the WEZE > studios (street-level, Statler Office Building, in Park Square), and > watching the announcers on the air. > > Kevin wrote-- > > Donna - Have you ever looked into Kaiser/Globe's odd decision to have 3 > > separate offices and studios for TV, FM and AM? > > Bob Bitner might know something more about that. It's been a while > since I did any research on Kaiser-Globe. But as I recall, the company > made other puzzling decisions too. Kaiser was an Oakland CA based firm, > weren't they? And I do recall (vaguely) WKBG-TV going on the air in late > 1966. It seems the company's execs weren't always sure how to handle > the various media properties they owned in Boston, and evidently, they > did not want to give the impression that they were trying to consolidate > them all into one unit-- this was, of course, the era before media > consolidation became popular. They also owned individual properties on > the west coast, including a TV station in Los Angeles, and KFOG Radio in > San Francisco. Anyway, I'm fairly certain they had separate GMs and > even separate sales staff at their various Boston properties. But I > don't recall much more than that. > > -- > Donna L. Halper, PhD > Associate Professor of Communication & Media Studies > Lesley University, Cambridge MA > > From aerie.ma@comcast.net Tue Jul 10 14:04:59 2018 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 14:04:59 -0400 Subject: 1150 and 1600 old days Message-ID: <013201d41878$8bc1e7f0$a345b7d0$@comcast.net> WCOP's big problem with top 40 was that you couldn't hear them at the beaches on the north shore. I listened to WCOP at home in the city, but when we got a summer cottage at Hampton Beach, you could get WMEX clearly, but WCOP was non-existent even in the daytime. I think Ken Mayer did well because those were the days when all the stations except WHDH signed off at midnight on Sunday/Monday. WHDH stayed on with Norm Nathan's jazz show. Ken had soooo many commercials, all of which he read himself. But he played a lot of comedy albums too, which made the show interesting. --But even 1600 had Ken Mayer who had a substantial cult following between Midnight and 2 AM every Monday. WCOP had a slight run with Top 40 but their -night signal was worse than WMEX. Ken Carter hosted a very successful dance show on Saturday's in Cambridge but otherwise not much except national NBC sports events like the World Series. From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jul 10 18:04:52 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 18:04:52 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: <416e0426-a1ef-b205-5fde-e91744aa2478@donnahalper.com> References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> <8ae8cdb8-4fe8-4573-42ff-c3861b03ed07@attorneyross.com> <416e0426-a1ef-b205-5fde-e91744aa2478@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <1319f8d3-bc58-481d-d114-280252a18962@attorneyross.com> On 7/10/2018 12:38 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > On 7/10/2018 6:26 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> WEZE was in a good spot circa 1965 as 'The Wonderful World of Music' was >> consistent and their major competitor was WHDH that tried to juggle >> music, >> news and sports. NBC even dropped WEZE in favor of WCOP to get Monitor >> cleared in Boston.? WBZ and WMEX fought for the younger audience with >> 1030 doing well in the >> burbs and 1510 well in the city and the North Shore. > > And many of us who worked in Boston still remember walking past the > WEZE studios (street-level, Statler Office Building, in Park Square), > and watching the announcers on the air. I remember doing that in the late '60s when I had a summer job in Park Square. > Kevin wrote-- >> Donna - Have you ever looked into Kaiser/Globe's odd decision to have 3 >> separate offices and studios for TV, FM and AM? > > Bob Bitner might know something more about that.? It's been a while > since I did any research on Kaiser-Globe.? But as I recall, the > company made other puzzling decisions too. Kaiser was an Oakland CA > based firm, weren't they? And I do recall (vaguely) WKBG-TV going on > the air in late 1966.? It seems the company's execs weren't always > sure how to handle the various media properties they owned in Boston, > and evidently, they did not want to give the impression that they were > trying to consolidate them all into one unit-- this was, of course, > the era before media consolidation became popular. They also owned > individual properties on the west coast, including a TV station in Los > Angeles, and KFOG Radio in San Francisco.? Anyway, I'm fairly certain > they had separate GMs and even separate sales staff at their various > Boston properties. But I don't recall much more than that. I don't understand that, since the properties were already one unit, as WXHR.? Circa 1965, WTAO 740 became WXHR, and 96,9 changed from WXHR to WXHR-FM.? This was an effort to compete with WCRB for the AM audience, but since 740 was a daytime-only station, they couldn't compete in evening drive-time for much of the year.? Channel 56 had been on for awhile in 1953 as WTAO-TV, but in the 1960s, when it was preparing to come back, it was running ads as WXHR-TV, though I'm not sure whether it ever got on the air with that call. I think the separate locations and calls for the stations had to do with the branding they wanted to have.? As a community station for Cambridge and vicinity, WCAS had studios in Central Square, and the WJIB studios on the waterfront were because of the nautical image, supported by the WJIB call.? I think the TV station started out being at the FM and TV transmitter location in Woburn before the Morrissey Boulevard location. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459-2004 617.367.0468 ? Fx: 617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Jul 10 18:25:11 2018 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 18:25:11 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: <1319f8d3-bc58-481d-d114-280252a18962@attorneyross.com> References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> <8ae8cdb8-4fe8-4573-42ff-c3861b03ed07@attorneyross.com> <416e0426-a1ef-b205-5fde-e91744aa2478@donnahalper.com> <1319f8d3-bc58-481d-d114-280252a18962@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Joe The TV studios were on Comm Ave in Allston before they moved to Dorchester. Fred Cusick wrote that there was a minor problem with the Allston studio https://books.google.com/books?id=zGOkrNrrOfwC&pg=PA181&lpg=PA181&dq=wkbg+1050+commonwealth&source=bl&ots=G91k6jcHAD&sig=N8WffB2YqXyeGKN7omWqX4-tsGQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjrntWlyZXcAhWmUt8KHUIACfkQ6AEILTAB#v=onepage&q=wkbg%201050%20commonwealth&f=false On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:05 PM A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 7/10/2018 12:38 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > > On 7/10/2018 6:26 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > WEZE was in a good spot circa 1965 as 'The Wonderful World of Music' was > consistent and their major competitor was WHDH that tried to juggle music, > news and sports. NBC even dropped WEZE in favor of WCOP to get Monitor > cleared in Boston. WBZ and WMEX fought for the younger audience with 1030 > doing well in the > burbs and 1510 well in the city and the North Shore. > > > And many of us who worked in Boston still remember walking past the WEZE > studios (street-level, Statler Office Building, in Park Square), and > watching the announcers on the air. > > > I remember doing that in the late '60s when I had a summer job in Park > Square. > > Kevin wrote-- > > Donna - Have you ever looked into Kaiser/Globe's odd decision to have 3 > separate offices and studios for TV, FM and AM? > > > Bob Bitner might know something more about that. It's been a while since > I did any research on Kaiser-Globe. But as I recall, the company made > other puzzling decisions too. Kaiser was an Oakland CA based firm, weren't > they? And I do recall (vaguely) WKBG-TV going on the air in late 1966. It > seems the company's execs weren't always sure how to handle the various > media properties they owned in Boston, and evidently, they did not want to > give the impression that they were trying to consolidate them all into one > unit-- this was, of course, the era before media consolidation became > popular. They also owned individual properties on the west coast, including > a TV station in Los Angeles, and KFOG Radio in San Francisco. Anyway, I'm > fairly certain they had separate GMs and even separate sales staff at their > various Boston properties. But I don't recall much more than that. > > > I don't understand that, since the properties were already one unit, as > WXHR. Circa 1965, WTAO 740 became WXHR, and 96,9 changed from WXHR to > WXHR-FM. This was an effort to compete with WCRB for the AM audience, but > since 740 was a daytime-only station, they couldn't compete in evening > drive-time for much of the year. Channel 56 had been on for awhile in 1953 > as WTAO-TV, but in the 1960s, when it was preparing to come back, it was > running ads as WXHR-TV, though I'm not sure whether it ever got on the air > with that call. > > I think the separate locations and calls for the stations had to do with > the branding they wanted to have. As a community station for Cambridge and > vicinity, WCAS had studios in Central Square, and the WJIB studios on the > waterfront were because of the nautical image, supported by the WJIB call. > I think the TV station started out being at the FM and TV transmitter > location in Woburn before the Morrissey Boulevard location. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA > 02459-2004 > 617.367.0468 ? Fx: 617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jul 11 01:55:08 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 01:55:08 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> <7F154545AF284F2DA9F39FF462BD0714@ownerd8aa55a4d> Message-ID: Well, it did make the format less irritating.? And I think they tended to use more shorter works, rather than single movements of longer works. On 7/10/2018 11:15 AM, Rob Landry wrote: > > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, A Joseph Ross wrote: > >> But they got so many complaints from listeners that they stopped >> playing just "movements." > > They didn't, though; they simply adjusted their clocks so that a > longer work usually led off each hour. > > I know this because I wrote their music scheduling software. > >> ?They continued using standard radio rotations for classical music, >> though, and played vocal music only around the December holiday season. > >> Does anyone know to what extent they're doing that now? > > The current PD, whose name I've momentarily forgotten, is an old rival > of Mario's with more or less the same ideas, but he's running some > pieces Mario did't play. > > > Rob -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jul 11 01:59:39 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 01:59:39 -0400 Subject: 1150 and 1600 old days In-Reply-To: <013201d41878$8bc1e7f0$a345b7d0$@comcast.net> References: <013201d41878$8bc1e7f0$a345b7d0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3fae7238-81f9-0850-50ee-d2d6bc7e1966@attorneyross.com> On the other hand, in Bedford, where I spent my teen years, WCOP was the most popular station.? With the transmitter in Lexington, it was the strongest signal in town, even stronger than WBZ.? We all listened to it until it very suddenly shifted to a MOR format during the summer of 1962.? That was when I first started listening to WMEX a lot.? Their daytime signal came in quite well, but at night, they had problems with WKBW at 1520. On 7/10/2018 2:04 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > WCOP's big problem with top 40 was that you couldn't hear them at the beaches on the north shore. I listened to WCOP at home in the city, but when we got a summer cottage at Hampton Beach, you could get WMEX clearly, but WCOP was non-existent even in the daytime. > > I think Ken Mayer did well because those were the days when all the stations except WHDH signed off at midnight on Sunday/Monday. WHDH stayed on with Norm Nathan's jazz show. Ken had soooo many commercials, all of which he read himself. But he played a lot of comedy albums too, which made the show interesting. > > > > > --But even 1600 had Ken Mayer who had a substantial cult following between Midnight and 2 AM every Monday. WCOP had a slight run with Top 40 but their -night signal was worse than WMEX. Ken Carter hosted a very successful dance show on Saturday's in Cambridge but otherwise not much except national NBC sports events like the World Series. > > > > > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jul 11 02:02:13 2018 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 02:02:13 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> <8ae8cdb8-4fe8-4573-42ff-c3861b03ed07@attorneyross.com> <416e0426-a1ef-b205-5fde-e91744aa2478@donnahalper.com> <1319f8d3-bc58-481d-d114-280252a18962@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <884926bd-64c0-7127-b9af-74e4c57f69e2@attorneyross.com> Really!? Where? On 7/10/2018 6:25 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Joe > > The TV studios were on Comm Ave in Allston before they moved to > Dorchester. > > Fred Cusick wrote that there was a minor problem with the Allston studio > > https://books.google.com/books?id=zGOkrNrrOfwC&pg=PA181&lpg=PA181&dq=wkbg+1050+commonwealth&source=bl&ots=G91k6jcHAD&sig=N8WffB2YqXyeGKN7omWqX4-tsGQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjrntWlyZXcAhWmUt8KHUIACfkQ6AEILTAB#v=onepage&q=wkbg%201050%20commonwealth&f=false > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:05 PM A. Joseph Ross > wrote: > > On 7/10/2018 12:38 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > >> On 7/10/2018 6:26 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >>> WEZE was in a good spot circa 1965 as 'The Wonderful World of >>> Music' was >>> consistent and their major competitor was WHDH that tried to >>> juggle music, >>> news and sports. NBC even dropped WEZE in favor of WCOP to get >>> Monitor >>> cleared in Boston.? WBZ and WMEX fought for the younger audience >>> with 1030 doing well in the >>> burbs and 1510 well in the city and the North Shore. >> >> And many of us who worked in Boston still remember walking past >> the WEZE studios (street-level, Statler Office Building, in Park >> Square), and watching the announcers on the air. > > I remember doing that in the late '60s when I had a summer job in > Park Square. > >> Kevin wrote-- >>> Donna - Have you ever looked into Kaiser/Globe's odd decision to >>> have 3 >>> separate offices and studios for TV, FM and AM? >> >> Bob Bitner might know something more about that.? It's been a >> while since I did any research on Kaiser-Globe. But as I recall, >> the company made other puzzling decisions too. Kaiser was an >> Oakland CA based firm, weren't they? And I do recall (vaguely) >> WKBG-TV going on the air in late 1966.? It seems the company's >> execs weren't always sure how to handle the various media >> properties they owned in Boston, and evidently, they did not want >> to give the impression that they were trying to consolidate them >> all into one unit-- this was, of course, the era before media >> consolidation became popular. They also owned individual >> properties on the west coast, including a TV station in Los >> Angeles, and KFOG Radio in San Francisco.? Anyway, I'm fairly >> certain they had separate GMs and even separate sales staff at >> their various Boston properties. But I don't recall much more >> than that. > > I don't understand that, since the properties were already one > unit, as WXHR.? Circa 1965, WTAO 740 became WXHR, and 96,9 changed > from WXHR to WXHR-FM.? This was an effort to compete with WCRB for > the AM audience, but since 740 was a daytime-only station, they > couldn't compete in evening drive-time for much of the year.? > Channel 56 had been on for awhile in 1953 as WTAO-TV, but in the > 1960s, when it was preparing to come back, it was running ads as > WXHR-TV, though I'm not sure whether it ever got on the air with > that call. > > I think the separate locations and calls for the stations had to > do with the branding they wanted to have.? As a community station > for Cambridge and vicinity, WCAS had studios in Central Square, > and the WJIB studios on the waterfront were because of the > nautical image, supported by the WJIB call.? I think the TV > station started out being at the FM and TV transmitter location in > Woburn before the Morrissey Boulevard location. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA > 02459-2004 > 617.367.0468 ? Fx: 617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From 011010001@interpring.com Wed Jul 11 10:01:49 2018 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 10:01:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WCRB (was re: WKLB Frequency Change?) In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> <7F154545AF284F2DA9F39FF462BD0714@ownerd8aa55a4d> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, A Joseph Ross wrote: > Well, it did make the format less irritating.? And I think they tended > to use more shorter works, rather than single movements of longer works. The challenge is to maximize average time spent listening. Traditionally, classical stations have low average TSL, even if the average length of classical recordings is longer -- about 12 minutes, unless I misremember -- than songs in any other format. In drive time, where listeners need frequent news, weather, and traffic updates, the problem becomes acute. Playing movements is the answer; listeners want to hear their favorites, not some obscure piece of music by someone no one's heard of. Yet many of these favorites are too long for drive time if played full-length. Outside drive time, the clocks called for the first piece in each hour to be a full length piece, anywhere from 20 to 40 minutes long. The rest of the hour would be filled by shorter pieces, some of them movements. There were also "classic clusters" of two or three very short pieces (e.g. "Flight of the bumblebee") combined and scheduled as one element. The scheduling algorithm had to be flexible because we tried as much as possible to avoid scheduling for length; we wanted to play the best loved and most attractive of the available pieces of music for each slot, regardless of length. That meant a commercial break scheduled for 24 minutes after the hour might run at :17 past or :32 past. But it worked, and we did achieve a 4.5 share. That was in the old five-county Boston metro, though, before they added part of Worcester County and southern New Hampshire. The best we ever did in the expanded metro was in the mid threes. Nassau's WCRB at 99.5 still had a 3 share, despite Mario's departure, the change from diary sampling to PPM, and the move from the Newton transmitter site to the Andover one. When WGBH took over the ratings sank like a stone. Mario's format lives on; see http://classical959.com if you like commercials, or http://classicalwscs.org if you don't. Rob From markwa1ion@aol.com Wed Jul 11 16:31:13 2018 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:31:13 -0400 Subject: 1150 and 1600 old days Message-ID: <1648b0a6bdf-179e-14217@webjas-vaa245.srv.aolmail.net> Where I lived in Arlington near Route 2, WCOP was King Kong compared to WMEX. In 1958-1961, when I was going to the Brackett elementary school, WCOP "ruled the school"; you could even get it on one of those crystal "rocket radios" that didn't have a battery. Kids sneaked those in and clipped them to desk metal to listen surreptitiously to WCOP. http://www.crystalradio.net/misc/rocket/index.shtml Those radios needed a barn-burner local signal to work. WMEX, on the other hand, only had a so-so day signal and sometimes got hammered by talker 1500 WTOP DC on one side and rocker 1520 WKBW Buffalo on the other - even on reasonably good home and car radios. Ed Mitchell's afternoon show on WCOP was very popular. He used a lot of audio clips in an era when there were no laptops and mp3's. These must have been on reel-to-reels, cartridges, or carefully-cued records. He dropped comedy bits from Stan Freberg, Spike Jones, etc. in for humorous effects. Records he thought were silly or goofy got mercilessly spoofed. These were often "teen tragedy" songs. I remember him "killing" this one by slowing it down to a growl and dropping twanging bedsprings and other sound "defects", likely from the Radio Shack sound effects record, over it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8JHNWt7w3Q (Cathy Carroll "Jimmy Love": plot = lightning hits tree, it falls and kills her boyfriend right before they were to get married) As stated by others, WCOP did not do well on the North Shore. Signal at Revere Beach was just adequate, but much weaker than WMEX screaming across 10 or so miles of water. In the car, heading north on Route 1, WCOP was totally out of gas at night by the 128 interchange in Lynnfield-Peabody. It submerged below a cacophony of competing 1150 stations, mostly Canadians. Even at midday, as close to Boston as Bearskin Neck and Granite Pier (Rockport, MA), co-channel 1150 stations from Maine and New Brunswick clobbered WCOP. Mark Connelly South Yarmouth, MA << On the other hand, in Bedford, where I spent my teen years, WCOP was the most popular station. With the transmitter in Lexington, it was the strongest signal in town, even stronger than WBZ. We all listened to it until it very suddenly shifted to a MOR format during the summer of 1962. That was when I first started listening to WMEX a lot. Their daytime signal came in quite well, but at night, they had problems with WKBW at 1520. On 7/10/2018 2:04 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > WCOP's big problem with top 40 was that you couldn't hear them at the beaches on the north shore. I listened to WCOP at home in the city, but when we got a summer cottage at Hampton Beach, you could get WMEX clearly, but WCOP was non-existent even in the daytime. > > I think Ken Mayer did well because those were the days when all the stations except WHDH signed off at midnight on Sunday/Monday. WHDH stayed on with Norm Nathan's jazz show. Ken had soooo many commercials, all of which he read himself. But he played a lot of comedy albums too, which made the show interesting. > > > > > --But even 1600 had Ken Mayer who had a substantial cult following between Midnight and 2 AM every Monday. WCOP had a slight run with Top 40 but their -night signal was worse than WMEX. Ken Carter hosted a very successful dance show on Saturday's in Cambridge but otherwise not much except national NBC sports events like the World Series. > > > > > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com >> From tgordo49@gmail.com Tue Jul 10 02:33:14 2018 From: tgordo49@gmail.com (Tim Gordon) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 02:33:14 -0400 Subject: 92.9 FM power cut? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ...And as of today they're back to full power. Maybe they were doing some repairs over the weekend? And yes, Ron, where I travel their other stations are completely useless. I thought they did a passable job covering Pops goes the Fourth on their cable channel, though. They clearly want to be a force to be reckoned with in Boston. On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:08 PM, Ron Bello wrote: > Don't know about a power reduction @ 92.9 but Bloomberg is virtually > unlistenable in Natick, Framingham and other towns west of there > Take your pick of 92.9-HD2 or 1330 am or 106.1 > There are a lot of businesses and money in the area who might want to > listen > > Not a great discussion to switch from their previous home at 94.5-HD2 and > 1200 am > > Anyone at Bloomberg listening ? > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Tim Gordon wrote: > >> Since this past Friday or Saturday I can no longer get enough of a signal >> to listen to Bloomberg Radio Boston on 92.9HD2 in 99% of the Boston Metro >> West/NorthWest area where I've been listening for months. Does anyone know >> what's happened, and if it is permanent? >> Thanks, >> Tim Gordon >> > > From tgordo49@gmail.com Tue Jul 10 12:00:31 2018 From: tgordo49@gmail.com (Tim Gordon) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 12:00:31 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> <7F154545AF284F2DA9F39FF462BD0714@ownerd8aa55a4d> Message-ID: >an easy listening format built around classical music. I've never heard it put that way before, but that turn of phrase really clicked with me. That's exactly what they did that lost our family. My dad said they'd become another WJIB. Except we'd listen to Pops or BSO events on ANY station that carried them, short of tin cans & string. P.S.: They still play a lot of better-known pieces, and random movements & overtures out-of-context as well, which my wife enjoys as late-night driving music. Guess there's something for everyone. On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, Don wrote: > > **At one point WCRB was considred the most successful Classical station in >> America. (I think they got a 4.5 in the ratings.) This was also at a time >> when WCRB started playing "movements", and utilized standard radio >> rotations of playing the most popular peices more often. Much to the >> chagrin of the Classical afficienados. ;-) >> > > That's right. Mario Mazza was the creator of the new WCRB format, which > was essentially an easy listening format built around classical music. It > did push up the ratings; previous WCRB programmers had been playing too > many pieces that appealed to musicians and concert goers but were not very > comprehensible to the average radio listener. > > Boston has a large musical community, many of whose members were not at > all happy with what Maro was doing. But as large and influential as these > people were, there weren't enough of them to support the station. Ratings > showed Mario to be correct; WGBH and WHRB, which continued to target > musical sophisticates, showed no significant increases in their ratings. > > Mario's format survives on WFCC (Cape Cod), WCRI (Block Island), and WSCS > (New London, NH). > > > Rob > From astelle.donald@gmail.com Fri Jul 13 01:30:20 2018 From: astelle.donald@gmail.com (Don) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 01:30:20 -0400 Subject: WKLB Frequency Change? References: <00ab01d41686$f371feb0$da55fc10$@skywaves.net> <7F154545AF284F2DA9F39FF462BD0714@ownerd8aa55a4d> Message-ID: >>My dad said they'd become another WJIB. Not that there's anything wrong with that! ;-) LOL! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Gordon" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 12:00 PM Subject: Re: WKLB Frequency Change? > >an easy listening format built around classical music. > > I've never heard it put that way before, but that turn of phrase really > clicked with me. That's exactly what they did that lost our family. > Except we'd listen to Pops or BSO events > on ANY station that carried them, short of tin cans & string. > P.S.: They still play a lot of better-known pieces, and random movements & > overtures out-of-context as well, which my wife enjoys as late-night > driving music. Guess there's something for everyone. > > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, Don wrote: >> >> **At one point WCRB was considred the most successful Classical station >> in >>> America. (I think they got a 4.5 in the ratings.) This was also at a >>> time >>> when WCRB started playing "movements", and utilized standard radio >>> rotations of playing the most popular peices more often. Much to the >>> chagrin of the Classical afficienados. ;-) >>> >> >> That's right. Mario Mazza was the creator of the new WCRB format, which >> was essentially an easy listening format built around classical music. It >> did push up the ratings; previous WCRB programmers had been playing too >> many pieces that appealed to musicians and concert goers but were not >> very >> comprehensible to the average radio listener. >> >> Boston has a large musical community, many of whose members were not at >> all happy with what Maro was doing. But as large and influential as these >> people were, there weren't enough of them to support the station. Ratings >> showed Mario to be correct; WGBH and WHRB, which continued to target >> musical sophisticates, showed no significant increases in their ratings. >> >> Mario's format survives on WFCC (Cape Cod), WCRI (Block Island), and WSCS >> (New London, NH). >> >> >> Rob >> > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > From astelle.donald@gmail.com Fri Jul 13 01:29:20 2018 From: astelle.donald@gmail.com (Don) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 01:29:20 -0400 Subject: Boston Pops Fireworks Spectacular on Bloomberg Radio? Message-ID: I caught a little of the Pops broadcast on Bloomberg TV....and I could pile on with criticism.... But...I wondered how the radio broadcast went? Were they simply pumping TV audio to the radio? Don From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Jul 20 22:34:01 2018 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 22:34:01 -0400 Subject: Final WATD WIde World of Blues now airing Message-ID: Final edition of WATD Wild World of Blues with Peter Black now airing on WATD FM 95.9/ WMEX AM 1510 http://v6.player.abacast.net/2231 after 26 years. Best wishes to Peter who heads for now out to Colorado. Winner of Mai Cramer Keeping the Blues Alive award. He thanks his listeners, sponsors, etc. (now Fri night till 2 am) From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Jul 23 11:15:39 2018 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 11:15:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: 92.9 FM power cut? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, Tim Gordon wrote: > ...And as of today they're back to full power. Maybe they were doing some > repairs over the weekend? Unless something's changed, WBOS has a backup transmitter at 1165 Chestnut Street in Newton. If I remember right it's 1 KW. Rob From jjlehmann@comcast.net Mon Jul 23 12:09:23 2018 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 12:09:23 -0400 Subject: 92.9 FM power cut? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0c1101d4229f$86499260$92dcb720$@comcast.net> When they (and the other former Greater Media stations) run from their backups on FM128, they don't have HD at all. Jeff Lehmann -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest On Behalf Of Rob Landry Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 11:16 AM To: Tim Gordon Cc: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: 92.9 FM power cut? On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, Tim Gordon wrote: > ...And as of today they're back to full power. Maybe they were doing > some repairs over the weekend? Unless something's changed, WBOS has a backup transmitter at 1165 Chestnut Street in Newton. If I remember right it's 1 KW. 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Would a decent antenna pick up all the in-market network affiliates and their subchannels, or would I need a range extender? I know repack is ongoing, but haven?t been following super closely. She?s on the side of the building, not directly facing the street. Any signal would need to fight its way through a wall or two (an older brick wall at that). I trust you all more than any Amazon review. Thanks in advance for any help. -- Sent from my iPhone From scott@fybush.com Tue Jul 31 10:24:11 2018 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:24:11 -0400 Subject: For those in Boston: what antenna are you using for over the air TV? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My go-to is the Terk HDTVa, which runs about $50 online. It's fairly compact but still functional, unlike some newer models that are more decorative than actually useful. In the South End, an indoor antenna should have no trouble with the major signals from the tower farm, which are all UHF and will all stay UHF in the repack. (The exception for now is the WGBH license, which goes to VHF 5 in the repack. But the WGBH programming will stay on UHF over the license that's now WGBX, and that RF 5 signal is mainly going to end up being used for ATSC 3.0 testing that won't be usable by current TVs anyway.) On Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 10:05 AM Sean Smyth wrote: > Hi broadcasting friends: > > My mom might soon drop cable and go strictly with OTA. She lives in an > apartment building in South Boston. I see good reviews of several antennas > on Amazon, but I?d like to hear from folks in the city who pull in OTA > signals. Would a decent antenna pick up all the in-market network > affiliates and their subchannels, or would I need a range extender? I know > repack is ongoing, but haven?t been following super closely. She?s on the > side of the building, not directly facing the street. Any signal would need > to fight its way through a wall or two (an older brick wall at that). > > I trust you all more than any Amazon review. Thanks in advance for any > help. > -- > Sent from my iPhone > From dave@skywaves.net Tue Jul 31 18:05:13 2018 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 18:05:13 -0400 Subject: WCIB Notice of Violation Message-ID: <006101d4291a$8eb126d0$ac137470$@skywaves.net> https://www.rbr.com/uncool-emissions-prompt-violation-notice-for-iheart-fm/