From tommyg62@comcast.net Tue Oct 3 15:51:00 2017 From: tommyg62@comcast.net (Tom Giarrosso) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 15:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester Message-ID: <1837816346.3701.1507060260659@connect.xfinity.com> A friend came across some old reel to reel airchecks, and posted this one from WWNH in 1955. Anyone know the DJ? He mentions Lou Terry is in the back room listening to a live Red Sox game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ps-63fSekc A pretty good example of how rock and roll was starting to impact the radio playlist in 1955. The Star Way radio program features Bill Haley, Charlie Mariano, Matt Dennis, Claude Thornhill, Frank Sinatra, Phil Foster, Preacher Rollo and the Five Saints, and Woody Herman performing the soon to be released film " Love is a Many Splendid Thing". The program was recovered from a 7" Scotch 190 reel to reel tape from a personal collection. Local commercial spots include Elayne (Elaine) Jewelers and Carrigan Motor Sales in Rochester, NH. Mention is also made of Lou Terry who went on to have a very successful career as a radio personality. Tom Giarrosso From map@mapinternet.com Wed Oct 4 13:10:43 2017 From: map@mapinternet.com (M.Casey) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 13:10:43 -0400 Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: <1837816346.3701.1507060260659@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1837816346.3701.1507060260659@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <31DD41F1CB274050A938E343E7FDB905@laptop> There was "Lou Terry" on WPOP in the 1960's, & 70's. Think he was a newscaster. Mark Casey Hampden, Mass. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Giarrosso Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 3:51 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester A friend came across some old reel to reel airchecks, and posted this one from WWNH in 1955. Anyone know the DJ? He mentions Lou Terry is in the back room listening to a live Red Sox game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ps-63fSekc A pretty good example of how rock and roll was starting to impact the radio playlist in 1955. The Star Way radio program features Bill Haley, Charlie Mariano, Matt Dennis, Claude Thornhill, Frank Sinatra, Phil Foster, Preacher Rollo and the Five Saints, and Woody Herman performing the soon to be released film " Love is a Many Splendid Thing". The program was recovered from a 7" Scotch 190 reel to reel tape from a personal collection. Local commercial spots include Elayne (Elaine) Jewelers and Carrigan Motor Sales in Rochester, NH. Mention is also made of Lou Terry who went on to have a very successful career as a radio personality. Tom Giarrosso From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Oct 4 19:43:20 2017 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:43:20 -0400 Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: <31DD41F1CB274050A938E343E7FDB905@laptop> References: <1837816346.3701.1507060260659@connect.xfinity.com> <31DD41F1CB274050A938E343E7FDB905@laptop> Message-ID: <8a246b20-c9d0-ff35-a541-5351a4550e0a@donnahalper.com> On 10/4/2017 1:10 PM, M.Casey wrote: > There was "Lou Terry" on WPOP in the 1960's, & 70's. Think he was a > newscaster. There was indeed a guy named Lou Terri (with an I) on WPOP, doing news and traffic, in the mid-1960s. But prior to that, he was the program director and morning jock at WEIM in Fitchburg, circa 1957. Much later, in the late 1960s, he was a deejay & production man in Springfield MA at WHYN radio, in the late 60s.? If that is the right guy (and many jocks in the 50s and early 60s worked a circuit that took them from stations in NH & CT to stations in MA), he died in a car accident in 1989.? His real name was Louis Gualtieri, and his obit spoke of his mostly working for stations in CT. From ehennessy@verizon.net Thu Oct 5 12:00:29 2017 From: ehennessy@verizon.net (Ed Hennessy) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 12:00:29 -0400 Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: <8a246b20-c9d0-ff35-a541-5351a4550e0a@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> He was a jock (and possibly PD or music director) at WIOF Waterbury in the mid-1980s as well. I can't recall for sure, but WPOP may have been co-owned with WIOF then. This was the period when WIOF was owned by Merv Griffin, if I recall correctly. Ed Hennessy. -----Original Message----- From: Donna Halper On 10/4/2017 1:10 PM, M.Casey wrote: > There was "Lou Terry" on WPOP in the 1960's, & 70's. Think he was a > newscaster. There was indeed a guy named Lou Terri (with an I) on WPOP, doing news and traffic, in the mid-1960s. But prior to that, he was the program director and morning jock at WEIM in Fitchburg, circa 1957. Much later, in the late 1960s, he was a deejay & production man in Springfield MA at WHYN radio, in the late 60s. If that is the right guy (and many jocks in the 50s and early 60s worked a circuit that took them from stations in NH & CT to stations in MA), he died in a car accident in 1989. His real name was Louis Gualtieri, and his obit spoke of his mostly working for stations in CT. From tlmedia@intrstar.net Thu Oct 5 14:42:48 2017 From: tlmedia@intrstar.net (Ted Larsen) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2017 14:42:48 -0400 Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> References: <8a246b20-c9d0-ff35-a541-5351a4550e0a@donnahalper.com> <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <7387dda6-d581-4e48-8fd5-1416257a33b4@getmailbird.com> You are correct. WPOP was a Merv Griffin station among others. https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/22/Merv-Griffin-aquires-four-radio-stations/4648606546000/ On 10/5/2017 2:36:05 PM, Ed Hennessy wrote: He was a jock (and possibly PD or music director) at WIOF Waterbury in the mid-1980s as well. I can't recall for sure, but WPOP may have been co-owned with WIOF then. This was the period when WIOF was owned by Merv Griffin, if I recall correctly. Ed Hennessy. -----Original Message----- From: Donna Halper On 10/4/2017 1:10 PM, M.Casey wrote: > There was "Lou Terry" on WPOP in the 1960's, & 70's. Think he was a > newscaster. There was indeed a guy named Lou Terri (with an I) on WPOP, doing news and traffic, in the mid-1960s. But prior to that, he was the program director and morning jock at WEIM in Fitchburg, circa 1957. Much later, in the late 1960s, he was a deejay & production man in Springfield MA at WHYN radio, in the late 60s. If that is the right guy (and many jocks in the 50s and early 60s worked a circuit that took them from stations in NH & CT to stations in MA), he died in a car accident in 1989. His real name was Louis Gualtieri, and his obit spoke of his mostly working for stations in CT. From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Oct 5 15:42:51 2017 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2017 19:42:51 +0000 Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: <7387dda6-d581-4e48-8fd5-1416257a33b4@getmailbird.com> References: <8a246b20-c9d0-ff35-a541-5351a4550e0a@donnahalper.com> <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> <7387dda6-d581-4e48-8fd5-1416257a33b4@getmailbird.com> Message-ID: And on the flip side of the coin, to present day... I?m one of the few if only people who worked at the last incarnation of WWNH before its license was revoked not long ago Paul On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 3:41 PM Ted Larsen wrote: > You are correct. WPOP was a Merv Griffin station among others. > > > https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/22/Merv-Griffin-aquires-four-radio-stations/4648606546000/ > On 10/5/2017 2:36:05 PM, Ed Hennessy wrote: > He was a jock (and possibly PD or music director) at WIOF Waterbury in the > mid-1980s as well. I can't recall for sure, but WPOP may have been co-owned > with WIOF then. This was the period when WIOF was owned by Merv Griffin, if > I recall correctly. > > Ed Hennessy. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donna Halper > > On 10/4/2017 1:10 PM, M.Casey wrote: > > There was "Lou Terry" on WPOP in the 1960's, & 70's. Think he was a > > newscaster. > > There was indeed a guy named Lou Terri (with an I) on WPOP, doing news > and traffic, in the mid-1960s. But prior to that, he was the program > director and morning jock at WEIM in Fitchburg, circa 1957. Much later, > in the late 1960s, he was a deejay & production man in Springfield MA at > WHYN radio, in the late 60s. If that is the right guy (and many jocks > in the 50s and early 60s worked a circuit that took them from stations > in NH & CT to stations in MA), he died in a car accident in 1989. His > real name was Louis Gualtieri, and his obit spoke of his mostly working > for stations in CT. > > > > > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Oct 5 21:00:00 2017 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 21:00:00 -0400 Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: References: <8a246b20-c9d0-ff35-a541-5351a4550e0a@donnahalper.com> <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> <7387dda6-d581-4e48-8fd5-1416257a33b4@getmailbird.com> Message-ID: No, its WWNH 1340... and Brian dodge the very very last incarnaiton of the WWNH calls im not even remotely old enough to have worked at WWNH 930 On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Don wrote: > >>the last incarnation of WWNH before its license > was revoked not long ago<< > > Was this the 930AM on the Seacoast? > > What year were you there...and why/when did they get their licensed > revoked? > > There's a story here somewhere! ;-) > > > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. < > walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> wrote: > >> And on the flip side of the coin, to present day... I?m one of the few if >> only people who worked at the last incarnation of WWNH before its license >> was revoked not long ago >> >> Paul >> >> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 3:41 PM Ted Larsen wrote: >> >> > You are correct. WPOP was a Merv Griffin station among others. >> > >> > >> > https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/22/Merv-Griffin-aquires >> -four-radio-stations/4648606546000/ >> > On 10/5/2017 2:36:05 PM, Ed Hennessy wrote: >> > He was a jock (and possibly PD or music director) at WIOF Waterbury in >> the >> > mid-1980s as well. I can't recall for sure, but WPOP may have been >> co-owned >> > with WIOF then. This was the period when WIOF was owned by Merv >> Griffin, if >> > I recall correctly. >> > >> > Ed Hennessy. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Donna Halper >> > >> > On 10/4/2017 1:10 PM, M.Casey wrote: >> > > There was "Lou Terry" on WPOP in the 1960's, & 70's. Think he was a >> > > newscaster. >> > >> > There was indeed a guy named Lou Terri (with an I) on WPOP, doing news >> > and traffic, in the mid-1960s. But prior to that, he was the program >> > director and morning jock at WEIM in Fitchburg, circa 1957. Much later, >> > in the late 1960s, he was a deejay & production man in Springfield MA at >> > WHYN radio, in the late 60s. If that is the right guy (and many jocks >> > in the 50s and early 60s worked a circuit that took them from stations >> > in NH & CT to stations in MA), he died in a car accident in 1989. His >> > real name was Louis Gualtieri, and his obit spoke of his mostly working >> > for stations in CT. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > From astelle.donald@gmail.com Thu Oct 5 20:58:44 2017 From: astelle.donald@gmail.com (Don) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 20:58:44 -0400 Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: References: <8a246b20-c9d0-ff35-a541-5351a4550e0a@donnahalper.com> <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> <7387dda6-d581-4e48-8fd5-1416257a33b4@getmailbird.com> Message-ID: >>the last incarnation of WWNH before its license was revoked not long ago<< Was this the 930AM on the Seacoast? What year were you there...and why/when did they get their licensed revoked? There's a story here somewhere! ;-) On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. < walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> wrote: > And on the flip side of the coin, to present day... I?m one of the few if > only people who worked at the last incarnation of WWNH before its license > was revoked not long ago > > Paul > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 3:41 PM Ted Larsen wrote: > > > You are correct. WPOP was a Merv Griffin station among others. > > > > > > https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/22/Merv-Griffin- > aquires-four-radio-stations/4648606546000/ > > On 10/5/2017 2:36:05 PM, Ed Hennessy wrote: > > He was a jock (and possibly PD or music director) at WIOF Waterbury in > the > > mid-1980s as well. I can't recall for sure, but WPOP may have been > co-owned > > with WIOF then. This was the period when WIOF was owned by Merv Griffin, > if > > I recall correctly. > > > > Ed Hennessy. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Donna Halper > > > > On 10/4/2017 1:10 PM, M.Casey wrote: > > > There was "Lou Terry" on WPOP in the 1960's, & 70's. Think he was a > > > newscaster. > > > > There was indeed a guy named Lou Terri (with an I) on WPOP, doing news > > and traffic, in the mid-1960s. But prior to that, he was the program > > director and morning jock at WEIM in Fitchburg, circa 1957. Much later, > > in the late 1960s, he was a deejay & production man in Springfield MA at > > WHYN radio, in the late 60s. If that is the right guy (and many jocks > > in the 50s and early 60s worked a circuit that took them from stations > > in NH & CT to stations in MA), he died in a car accident in 1989. His > > real name was Louis Gualtieri, and his obit spoke of his mostly working > > for stations in CT. > > > > > > > > > > > From 011010001@interpring.com Thu Oct 5 23:30:37 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 23:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: References: <8a246b20-c9d0-ff35-a541-5351a4550e0a@donnahalper.com> <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> <7387dda6-d581-4e48-8fd5-1416257a33b4@getmailbird.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Oct 2017, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > No, its WWNH 1340... and Brian dodge the very very last incarnaiton of > the WWNH calls im not even remotely old enough to have worked at WWNH 930 A former client of mine was considering buying WWNH 1340 and sent me to look it over. It had obviously been off the air for years; the tower was so overgrown with bushes and trees that I couldn't physically get to the base. When I looked it up in the FCC database, there was no license, only a construction permit that had lapsed several years before. We aere puzzled as to why the station was listed at all. Rob From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 6 01:28:03 2017 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 01:28:03 -0400 Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: References: <8a246b20-c9d0-ff35-a541-5351a4550e0a@donnahalper.com> <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> <7387dda6-d581-4e48-8fd5-1416257a33b4@getmailbird.com> Message-ID: So what did happen to the station's license? On 10/5/2017 11:30 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > > > On Thu, 5 Oct 2017, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > >> No, its WWNH 1340... and Brian dodge?? the very very last incarnaiton of >> the WWNH calls? im not even remotely old enough to have worked at >> WWNH 930 > > A former client of mine was considering buying WWNH 1340 and sent me > to look it over. It had obviously been off the air for years; the > tower was so overgrown with bushes and trees that I couldn't > physically get to the base. > > When I looked it up in the FCC database, there was no license, only a > construction permit that had lapsed several years before. We aere > puzzled as to why the station was listed at all. > > > Rob > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fx:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Fri Oct 6 05:54:01 2017 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2017 09:54:01 +0000 Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: References: <8a246b20-c9d0-ff35-a541-5351a4550e0a@donnahalper.com> <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> <7387dda6-d581-4e48-8fd5-1416257a33b4@getmailbird.com> Message-ID: Brian Dodge happened to it. Look it up. That will answer all On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 1:59 AM A Joseph Ross wrote: > So what did happen to the station's license? > > On 10/5/2017 11:30 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 5 Oct 2017, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > > > >> No, its WWNH 1340... and Brian dodge the very very last incarnaiton of > >> the WWNH calls im not even remotely old enough to have worked at > >> WWNH 930 > > > > A former client of mine was considering buying WWNH 1340 and sent me > > to look it over. It had obviously been off the air for years; the > > tower was so overgrown with bushes and trees that I couldn't > > physically get to the base. > > > > When I looked it up in the FCC database, there was no license, only a > > construction permit that had lapsed several years before. We aere > > puzzled as to why the station was listed at all. > > > > > > Rob > > > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 ? Fx:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Fri Oct 6 08:23:03 2017 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 08:23:03 -0400 Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: References: <8a246b20-c9d0-ff35-a541-5351a4550e0a@donnahalper.com> <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> <7387dda6-d581-4e48-8fd5-1416257a33b4@getmailbird.com> Message-ID: It was a festering dump when I worked there in 2006..... Paul On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, 5 Oct 2017, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > > No, its WWNH 1340... and Brian dodge the very very last incarnaiton of >> the WWNH calls im not even remotely old enough to have worked at WWNH 930 >> > > A former client of mine was considering buying WWNH 1340 and sent me to > look it over. It had obviously been off the air for years; the tower was so > overgrown with bushes and trees that I couldn't physically get to the base. > > When I looked it up in the FCC database, there was no license, only a > construction permit that had lapsed several years before. We aere puzzled > as to why the station was listed at all. > > > Rob > From 011010001@interpring.com Fri Oct 6 08:39:08 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 08:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: References: <8a246b20-c9d0-ff35-a541-5351a4550e0a@donnahalper.com> <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> <7387dda6-d581-4e48-8fd5-1416257a33b4@getmailbird.com> Message-ID: WWNH was never granted a license to cover. The construction permit ran out, and the station was allowed to stay on the air under an STA, but no license was ever issued. The Commission seems to have decided to ignore any application to which Mr. Dodge was a party, accepting it for filing but never acting on it. It is one of the more egregious examples of FCC arbitrariness, in my opinion. The man may or may not hae been fit to hold a broadcast license, but he deserved due process, and the FCC never gave it to him. More recently, Pamal applied to sell WPNI in Amherst to Mr. Dodge a few years ago, and the Commission sat on that application. After some months Pamal shut the station down, and the license evaporated a year later with never a word from the Commission on the proposed sale. If the king is in a good mood today, he may condescend to hear a few petitions from us peasants. Le Roi s'avisera. Rob On Fri, 6 Oct 2017, A Joseph Ross wrote: > So what did happen to the station's license? > > On 10/5/2017 11:30 PM, Rob Landry wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, 5 Oct 2017, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: >> >>> No, its WWNH 1340... and Brian dodge?? the very very last incarnaiton of >>> the WWNH calls? im not even remotely old enough to have worked at WWNH 930 >> >> A former client of mine was considering buying WWNH 1340 and sent me to >> look it over. It had obviously been off the air for years; the tower was so >> overgrown with bushes and trees that I couldn't physically get to the base. >> >> When I looked it up in the FCC database, there was no license, only a >> construction permit that had lapsed several years before. We aere puzzled >> as to why the station was listed at all. >> >> >> Rob >> > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 ? Fx:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > From 011010001@interpring.com Fri Oct 6 13:41:59 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 13:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: <15ef2b5ade1-c12-1d62a@webjas-vab115.srv.aolmail.net> References: <15ef2b5ade1-c12-1d62a@webjas-vab115.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Oct 2017, Sid Schweiger wrote: > Recently he was told by the Commission that all subsequent applications > for properties he owned or wished to purchase would be ignored. I'm sorry, but that's not something that should be tolerated in a country where the rule of law is upheld. The FCC shouldn't be allowed to ignore someone arbitrarily just because they find him annoying. If they reject his applications on legal grounds, that is one thing; but they shouldn't have the right to ignore them arbitrarily, let alone to tell a United States citizen that they will not duly consider any application he may file in the future. Rob From sids1045@aol.com Fri Oct 6 13:22:27 2017 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 13:22:27 -0400 Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <15ef2b5ade1-c12-1d62a@webjas-vab115.srv.aolmail.net> "The Commission seems to have decided to ignore any application to which Mr. Dodge was a party, accepting it for filing but never acting on it. It is one of the more egregious examples of FCC arbitrariness, in my opinion." Not egregious or arbitrary at all. The applicable clich? is : "Every man has his breaking point." FCC records are replete with Dodge's apparently willful ignorance of FCC rules, procedures and directives. Recently he was told by the Commission that all subsequent applications for properties he owned or wished to purchase would be ignored. Scott Fybush's August 14th NERW newsletter (https://www.fybush.com/nerw-20170814/) states that the record goes back for decades. Dodge even managed to violate the terms of a consent decree to which he was a party. Those of us who have worked in the broadcasting business for any length of time know how hard you have to try to draw the FCC's anger to this extent, but Dodge has somehow managed to pull it off. From map@mapinternet.com Fri Oct 6 18:18:56 2017 From: map@mapinternet.com (M.Casey) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 18:18:56 -0400 Subject: Lou Terri, WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> References: <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: RR WDRCobg.com lists Lou as WPOP's longest tenure DJ from 1959 to 1966, but doesn't mention him being a newsman, so I may be wrong about him doing the news. I don't think he was at WHYN very long, but I do remember him at WRCH and WIOF. I do remember him having a pleasant voice and professional delivery. Mark Casey -----Original Message----- From: Ed Hennessy Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 12:00 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester He was a jock (and possibly PD or music director) at WIOF Waterbury in the mid-1980s as well. I can't recall for sure, but WPOP may have been co-owned with WIOF then. This was the period when WIOF was owned by Merv Griffin, if I recall correctly. Ed Hennessy. On 10/4/2017 1:10 PM, M.Casey wrote: > There was "Lou Terry" on WPOP in the 1960's, & 70's. Think he was a > newscaster. From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Oct 6 21:29:14 2017 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 21:29:14 -0400 Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: References: <8a246b20-c9d0-ff35-a541-5351a4550e0a@donnahalper.com> <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> <7387dda6-d581-4e48-8fd5-1416257a33b4@getmailbird.com> Message-ID: <23000.11754.364755.525574@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > WWNH was never granted a license to cover. The construction permit ran > out, and the station was allowed to stay on the air under an STA, but no > license was ever issued. The Commission seems to have decided to ignore > any application to which Mr. Dodge was a party, accepting it for filing > but never acting on it. The FCC has a "red light" process for applications from licensees with pending enforcement actions which puts all application processing on hold (but still allows them to make the applications that are legally required, since all the deadlines are for date-of-filing, not Commission action). Licensees can apparently now view their "red light/green light" status through the electronic filing system -- apparently in the past it was only available by directly asking the FCC. NERW discussed the Dodge case /in extenso/ over the past couple of years, since he had to come to an agreement with the Commission in order to sell some of his translators during last year's "AM revitalization" window. It's important to remember that the FCC, established under the Communications Act of 1932, does not follow the standard structure of independent agencies under the Administrative Procedure Act, and in particular, the FCC can act either as a rulemaking body (through a version of the notice-and-comment procedure) *or* as a tribunal (through quasi-judicial procedures), and the Commission is free to decide how it is going to act on a case-by-case basis. Many important FCC policies and procedures are in fact decided by the FCC-as-tribunal acting with respect to a single licensee, and then later applied more generally, without ever being codified through a rulemaking procedure. (Other New Deal federal agencies, like the Federal Power Commission and the Securities and Exchange Commission, have a similar structure, although in some cases later legislation has conformed those agencies to the modern standard, which generally separates tribunal from rulemaking functions.) -GAWollman From astelle.donald@gmail.com Fri Oct 6 21:30:09 2017 From: astelle.donald@gmail.com (Don) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 21:30:09 -0400 Subject: RIP: Kris Earl Philips Message-ID: Kris Earl Phillips worked at WLLH in Lowell/Lawrence when I was growing up. He also did some overnights and fill-in work at WRKO when his friend Jack mcKay was PD. (On WLLH he was "Super Jock".) Passed away this week. I hope I get more than a 1 line obituary when I pass away! http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/news-journalonline/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=186841163 Here is his web page with more info. http://www.krisearlphillips.com/ From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Oct 7 01:51:06 2017 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 01:51:06 -0400 Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: References: <8a246b20-c9d0-ff35-a541-5351a4550e0a@donnahalper.com> <15eed44488e-c05-169bd@webjas-vab244.srv.aolmail.net> <7387dda6-d581-4e48-8fd5-1416257a33b4@getmailbird.com> Message-ID: <6193de19-ab28-84eb-bb58-36dd11692cb9@attorneyross.com> I agree that Mr. Dodge deserved due process.? I don't see why the FCC couldn't have found, after hearing, that due to Dodge's repeated violations of FCC regulations, that he was unfit to hold a broadcast license or to have any role in any licensee. They then could have ordered that no application for anything with which Dodge was associated would not be processed.? But it should have done so with a formal order after hearing, which would have given Dodge the right to appeal to the courts. On 10/6/2017 8:39 AM, Rob Landry wrote: > > WWNH was never granted a license to cover. The construction permit ran > out, and the station was allowed to stay on the air under an STA, but > no license was ever issued. The Commission seems to have decided to > ignore any application to which Mr. Dodge was a party, accepting it > for filing but never acting on it. It is one of the more egregious > examples of FCC arbitrariness, in my opinion. The man may or may not > hae been fit to hold a broadcast license, but he deserved due process, > and the FCC never gave it to him. > > More recently, Pamal applied to sell WPNI in Amherst to Mr. Dodge a > few years ago, and the Commission sat on that application. After some > months Pamal shut the station down, and the license evaporated a year > later with never a word from the Commission on the proposed sale. > > If the king is in a good mood today, he may condescend to hear a few > petitions from us peasants. Le Roi s'avisera. > > > Rob > > > On Fri, 6 Oct 2017, A Joseph Ross wrote: > >> So what did happen to the station's license? >> >> On 10/5/2017 11:30 PM, Rob Landry wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 5 Oct 2017, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: >>> >>>> No, its WWNH 1340... and Brian dodge the very very last incarnaiton of >>>> the WWNH calls? im not even remotely old enough to have worked at >>>> WWNH 930 >>> >>> A former client of mine was considering buying WWNH 1340 and sent me >>> to look it over. It had obviously been off the air for years; the >>> tower was so overgrown with bushes and trees that I couldn't >>> physically get to the base. >>> >>> When I looked it up in the FCC database, there was no license, only >>> a construction permit that had lapsed several years before. We aere >>> puzzled as to why the station was listed at all. >>> >>> >>> Rob >>> >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 >> 617.367.0468 ? Fx:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com >> -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Oct 7 01:51:59 2017 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 01:51:59 -0400 Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester In-Reply-To: <15ef2b5ade1-c12-1d62a@webjas-vab115.srv.aolmail.net> References: <15ef2b5ade1-c12-1d62a@webjas-vab115.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <9253139c-9f58-7bdc-38a0-b74c017384a9@attorneyross.com> But a formal order to that effect, with appropriate findings, should have entered, so that Mr. Dodge would have had his due process. On 10/6/2017 1:22 PM, Sid Schweiger wrote: > "The Commission seems to have decided to ignore any application to > which Mr. Dodge was a party, accepting it for filing but never acting > on it. It is one of the more egregious examples of FCC arbitrariness, > in my opinion." > > Not egregious or arbitrary at all.? The applicable clich? is : "Every > man has his breaking point." > > FCC records are replete with Dodge's apparently willful ignorance of > FCC rules, procedures and directives.? Recently he was told by the > Commission that all subsequent applications for properties he owned or > wished to purchase would be ignored.? Scott Fybush's August 14th NERW > newsletter (https://www.fybush.com/nerw-20170814/) states that the > record goes back for decades.? Dodge even managed to violate the terms > of a consent decree to which he was a party. > > Those of us who have worked in the broadcasting business for any > length of time know how hard you have to try to draw the FCC's anger > to this extent, but Dodge has somehow managed to pull it off. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Oct 10 19:09:57 2017 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 19:09:57 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep Message-ID: ... And what it won't.Via radioinsight and Scott Fybush: New Entercom Boston: WEEI, WEEI-FM, WAAF, WBMX, WODS. Spinoffs: WBZ, WBZ-FM, WRKO, WKAF, WZLX. WEEI 850-- ESPN.Does talk move there? WEEI- FM has only Sox; 98.5 other teams WBZ AM and FM --who might get them? Would WZLX do spillover sports when teams play at same time? From James_Hall@uml.edu Tue Oct 10 20:24:43 2017 From: James_Hall@uml.edu (Hall, James) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 00:24:43 +0000 Subject: Entercom divests.... Message-ID: Entercom has announced those stations it will divest: WBZ, WBZ-FM, WRKO, WZLX, WKAF. From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Oct 11 01:58:59 2017 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 01:58:59 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: CBS no longer owns WBZ?? When did that happen? On 10/10/2017 7:09 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > ... And what it won't.Via radioinsight and Scott Fybush: > New Entercom Boston: WEEI, WEEI-FM, WAAF, WBMX, WODS. Spinoffs: WBZ, > WBZ-FM, WRKO, WKAF, WZLX. > > WEEI 850-- ESPN.Does talk move there? > WEEI- FM has only Sox; 98.5 other teams > > WBZ AM and FM --who might get them? Would WZLX do spillover sports when > teams play at same time? > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Tue Oct 10 23:49:41 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 23:49:41 -0400 Subject: Entercom divests.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Want to listen to 40 minutes of speculation about what happens now? Sure you do.... www.fybush.com/podcast-008 On Oct 10, 2017 11:34 PM, "Hall, James" wrote: > Entercom has announced those stations it will divest: WBZ, WBZ-FM, WRKO, > WZLX, WKAF. > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Oct 11 07:14:41 2017 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 07:14:41 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: With the merger, stations have to be spun off. Entercom buying CBS Radio but there's a cap on how many stations one owner can have plus there are concerns about market share.Scott Fybush's podcast said ETM head David Field is more likely to do swaps than sales so maybe they wind up owning stations in, say, San Antonio. The Entercom CBS deal (originally announced in Feb.) is kind of like the American Radio and CBS deal some years ago.Would WRKO and CBS be under same ownership? No, so WRKO went to...Entercom. Now both WRKO and WBZ are being sold or swapped off. (And WBZ-FM..the DOJ would likely not allow both huge sports stations to be co-owned). 98.5 most likely stays sports but it won't be part of the merged company which will have the Entercom name. On Wednesday, October 11, 2017, A Joseph Ross wrote: > CBS no longer owns WBZ? When did that happen? > > On 10/10/2017 7:09 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > >> ... And what it won't.Via radioinsight and Scott Fybush: >> New Entercom Boston: WEEI, WEEI-FM, WAAF, WBMX, WODS. Spinoffs: WBZ, >> WBZ-FM, WRKO, WKAF, WZLX. >> >> WEEI 850-- ESPN.Does talk move there? >> WEEI- FM has only Sox; 98.5 other teams >> >> WBZ AM and FM --who might get them? Would WZLX do spillover sports when >> teams play at same time? >> >> > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Ne > wton, > MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > From 011010001@interpring.com Wed Oct 11 22:22:42 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 22:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Oct 2017, A Joseph Ross wrote: > CBS no longer owns WBZ?? When did that happen? Once the Entercom deal is consummated, they won't own it. It'll be the first time WBZ has been sold in its hidtory. Rob From ashboy1951@gmail.com Thu Oct 12 00:53:05 2017 From: ashboy1951@gmail.com (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 00:53:05 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep Message-ID: "You can be sure if it's Westinghouse." Uhh . . . Not any more. Rob is right. Westinghouse put WBZ on the air in 1921, bought CBS in 1995, and *became *CBS two years later, the tail having wagged the dog. I haven't been attentive as to what will be happening with KDKA and KYW, which are in similar circumstances. Robert Wright, the former CEO of NBC, once made the remark that getting the network out of radio was the worst mistake he made during his time at the helm. A legacy disappeared. The same thing happened with ABC's historic O&Os. Sadly, I expect it will here, too. In addition, what will become of WBZ's close working relationship with Channel 4? From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Thu Oct 12 02:43:40 2017 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 06:43:40 +0000 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm curious about the WBZ calls -- especially if Cox buys, as Scott and Lance floated on their podcast. (Wasn't Cox considering unloading 25 about 10 minutes ago? I don't see a 25/1030 marriage going smoothly.) On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:35 AM Doug Drown wrote: > "You can be sure if it's Westinghouse." Uhh . . . Not any more. > > Rob is right. Westinghouse put WBZ on the air in 1921, bought CBS in 1995, > and *became *CBS two years later, the tail having wagged the dog. > > I haven't been attentive as to what will be happening with KDKA and KYW, > which are in similar circumstances. > > Robert Wright, the former CEO of NBC, once made the remark that getting the > network out of radio was the worst mistake he made during his time at the > helm. A legacy disappeared. The same thing happened with ABC's historic > O&Os. Sadly, I expect it will here, too. > > In addition, what will become of WBZ's close working relationship with > Channel 4? > -- Sent from my iPhone From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Oct 12 11:32:02 2017 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 11:32:02 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They can't have huge dominance of market share.The Dept of Justice mandates this. WEEI AM is a place for spillover sports.Tonight 93.7 has NFL football while 850 has baseball playoffs. On Oct 12, 2017 9:41 AM, "Rob Landry" wrote: > > They're keeping WEEI 850 but selling WBZ? > > That doesn't make sense at all. WBZ has to be one of the highest billing > stations in the market, and cobers the market far better than 850. What are > they thinking? > > > Rob > > -- > ? ???, ??? ?????? ????????, > ? ???, ??? ??????? "??????", > ??? ????? ??????? ????? > ?????? ???????? ????. > > On Tue, 10 Oct 2017, Bob Nelson wrote: > > ... And what it won't.Via radioinsight and Scott Fybush: >> New Entercom Boston: WEEI, WEEI-FM, WAAF, WBMX, WODS. Spinoffs: WBZ, >> WBZ-FM, WRKO, WKAF, WZLX. >> >> WEEI 850-- ESPN.Does talk move there? >> WEEI- FM has only Sox; 98.5 other teams >> >> WBZ AM and FM --who might get them? Would WZLX do spillover sports when >> teams play at same time? >> > From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Oct 12 21:35:57 2017 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:35:57 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <23008.6269.30515.319560@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > They can't have huge dominance of market share.The Dept of Justice mandates > this. > WEEI AM is a place for spillover sports.Tonight 93.7 has NFL football while > 850 has baseball playoffs. And at this point 850 is basically free as far as programming costs go. Their only cost is the transmitter site. So long as they're getting more from ESPN, there's no benefit in selling it. 680, on the other hand, is basically a money sink at this point. It's in the spinoff group, and I assume whoever ends up with those stations will immediately turn around and try to find a buyer for it -- Salem seems like the most obvious choice, and it would be an improvement for them, signal-wise. I don't think there's anyone else in the market who would (a) know what to do with it, and (b) be able to raise the financing. -GAWollman From ashboy1951@gmail.com Thu Oct 12 20:31:55 2017 From: ashboy1951@gmail.com (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:31:55 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep Message-ID: It occurred to me that WBZ and WBZ-TV may well be the last two remaining commercial broadcasting stations in New England still under their original ownership. I may be wrong on this (Donna, can you help us out?), but I believe the only other three, until recently, were WABI-TV in Bangor and WCAX-TV in Burlington, which were both sold earlier this year to Gray Television, and WDEV in Waterbury, Vt, owned by the Squier family since 1931 and sold this year to former sales manager Steve Cormier. WABI had been owned by Diversified Communications (the Horace Hildreth family) since 1953, and WCAX by Mount Mansfield Television (the Hasbrook family) since '54. Talk about the end of an era! It's particularly painful in that WBZ's hundredth birthday is only four years away. Sorry to be so blunt --- and I know CBS has what it feels are good reasons to divest them --- but in my not-so-humble opinion, I think that selling these heritage O&Os ('BZ, KDKA, WCBS, etc.) is crazy. From umar@interpring.com Thu Oct 12 09:41:22 2017 From: umar@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 09:41:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They're keeping WEEI 850 but selling WBZ? That doesn't make sense at all. WBZ has to be one of the highest billing stations in the market, and cobers the market far better than 850. What are they thinking? Rob -- ? ???, ??? ?????? ????????, ? ???, ??? ??????? "??????", ??? ????? ??????? ????? ?????? ???????? ????. On Tue, 10 Oct 2017, Bob Nelson wrote: > ... And what it won't.Via radioinsight and Scott Fybush: > New Entercom Boston: WEEI, WEEI-FM, WAAF, WBMX, WODS. Spinoffs: WBZ, > WBZ-FM, WRKO, WKAF, WZLX. > > WEEI 850-- ESPN.Does talk move there? > WEEI- FM has only Sox; 98.5 other teams > > WBZ AM and FM --who might get them? Would WZLX do spillover sports when > teams play at same time? > From ashboy1951@gmail.com Thu Oct 12 23:34:19 2017 From: ashboy1951@gmail.com (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 23:34:19 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep Message-ID: >>Did Westinghouse buy CBS? ....or did CBS buy Westinghouse?<< Westinghouse bought CBS, in 1997. The company subsequently spun off its non-media components, and changed its name from Westinghouse Electric Corporation to CBS Corporation. I remember the night Dan Rather reported that. Today there are several different "Westinghouse" companies that do a variety of things. They all lease the Westinghouse name and trademark from CBS, which still owns them. Wikipedia has an interesting entry on all this under *Westinghouse Electric Corporation.* From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Oct 12 22:52:40 2017 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 22:52:40 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: <23008.6269.30515.319560@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <23008.6269.30515.319560@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: ?I wonder if Cox Media is kicking the tires on the Boston options. WBZ-AM could be used to prop up Channel 25 news which has been a ratings disaster since they showed Maria the door. ? On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < > said: > > > They can't have huge dominance of market share.The Dept of Justice > mandates > > this. > > WEEI AM is a place for spillover sports.Tonight 93.7 has NFL football > while > > 850 has baseball playoffs. > > And at this point 850 is basically free as far as programming costs > go. Their only cost is the transmitter site. So long as they're > getting more from ESPN, there's no benefit in selling it. > > 680, on the other hand, is basically a money sink at this point. It's > in the spinoff group, and I assume whoever ends up with those stations > will immediately turn around and try to find a buyer for it -- Salem > seems like the most obvious choice, and it would be an improvement for > them, signal-wise. I don't think there's anyone else in the market > who would (a) know what to do with it, and (b) be able to raise the > financing. > > -GAWollman > > From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 13 01:26:29 2017 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 01:26:29 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0aa27fc2-1cd9-41a0-2084-e2c5b9246405@attorneyross.com> For some years now, it has been possible for separately-owned stations in different services to have the same base call letters. It was once noted in this forum that there is a WKLB (AM) somewhere, under different ownership than the local WKLB-FM.? I think the station which had the call first has to give consent.? So I imagine that WBZ (AM) can control whether anyone else gets to be WBZ-xx. Any necessary consents may be part of the terms of the sale.?? I suspect if WBZ-FM is sold separately from the AM, it may be required to change the callsign. On 10/12/2017 2:43 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > I'm curious about the WBZ calls -- especially if Cox buys, as Scott and > Lance floated on their podcast. (Wasn't Cox considering unloading 25 about > 10 minutes ago? I don't see a 25/1030 marriage going smoothly.) > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:35 AM Doug Drown wrote: > >> "You can be sure if it's Westinghouse." Uhh . . . Not any more. >> >> Rob is right. Westinghouse put WBZ on the air in 1921, bought CBS in 1995, >> and *became *CBS two years later, the tail having wagged the dog. >> >> I haven't been attentive as to what will be happening with KDKA and KYW, >> which are in similar circumstances. >> >> Robert Wright, the former CEO of NBC, once made the remark that getting the >> network out of radio was the worst mistake he made during his time at the >> helm. A legacy disappeared. The same thing happened with ABC's historic >> O&Os. Sadly, I expect it will here, too. >> >> In addition, what will become of WBZ's close working relationship with >> Channel 4? >> -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From 011010001@interpring.com Fri Oct 13 08:22:42 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 08:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Oct 2017, Doug Drown wrote: > It occurred to me that WBZ and WBZ-TV may well be the last two remaining > commercial broadcasting stations in New England still under their original > ownership. WATD? WPLM? Depending on how you define "commercial", there's also WHRB . Rob From scott@fybush.com Fri Oct 13 08:10:03 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 08:10:03 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: <0aa27fc2-1cd9-41a0-2084-e2c5b9246405@attorneyross.com> References: <0aa27fc2-1cd9-41a0-2084-e2c5b9246405@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: The rights to the base call stay with the owner that's had them the longest. CBS keeps "WBZ" and the others. There's a contractual provision giving Entercom a license to keep using WBZ on radio and (with approval from CBS) to transfer that license to a new owner. On Oct 13, 2017 1:58 AM, "A Joseph Ross" wrote: > For some years now, it has been possible for separately-owned stations in > different services to have the same base call letters. It was once noted in > this forum that there is a WKLB (AM) somewhere, under different ownership > than the local WKLB-FM. I think the station which had the call first has > to give consent. So I imagine that WBZ (AM) can control whether anyone > else gets to be WBZ-xx. Any necessary consents may be part of the terms of > the sale. I suspect if WBZ-FM is sold separately from the AM, it may be > required to change the callsign. > > > On 10/12/2017 2:43 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > >> I'm curious about the WBZ calls -- especially if Cox buys, as Scott and >> Lance floated on their podcast. (Wasn't Cox considering unloading 25 about >> 10 minutes ago? I don't see a 25/1030 marriage going smoothly.) >> >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:35 AM Doug Drown wrote: >> >> "You can be sure if it's Westinghouse." Uhh . . . Not any more. >>> >>> Rob is right. Westinghouse put WBZ on the air in 1921, bought CBS in >>> 1995, >>> and *became *CBS two years later, the tail having wagged the dog. >>> >>> I haven't been attentive as to what will be happening with KDKA and KYW, >>> which are in similar circumstances. >>> >>> Robert Wright, the former CEO of NBC, once made the remark that getting >>> the >>> network out of radio was the worst mistake he made during his time at the >>> helm. A legacy disappeared. The same thing happened with ABC's historic >>> O&Os. Sadly, I expect it will here, too. >>> >>> In addition, what will become of WBZ's close working relationship with >>> Channel 4? >>> >>> > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Fri Oct 13 17:15:03 2017 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 21:15:03 +0000 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: <0aa27fc2-1cd9-41a0-2084-e2c5b9246405@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: And I doubt CBS would approve 1030 keeping those calls if it was bought by a group that already has an active (TV) newsroom in town. How much is 1030 worth without those call letters? A helluva lot less, IMO, even with the massive signal. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 4:54 PM Scott Fybush wrote: > The rights to the base call stay with the owner that's had them the > longest. CBS keeps "WBZ" and the others. There's a contractual provision > giving Entercom a license to keep using WBZ on radio and (with approval > from CBS) to transfer that license to a new owner. > > On Oct 13, 2017 1:58 AM, "A Joseph Ross" wrote: > > > For some years now, it has been possible for separately-owned stations in > > different services to have the same base call letters. It was once noted > in > > this forum that there is a WKLB (AM) somewhere, under different ownership > > than the local WKLB-FM. I think the station which had the call first has > > to give consent. So I imagine that WBZ (AM) can control whether anyone > > else gets to be WBZ-xx. Any necessary consents may be part of the terms > of > > the sale. I suspect if WBZ-FM is sold separately from the AM, it may be > > required to change the callsign. > > > > > > On 10/12/2017 2:43 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > > > >> I'm curious about the WBZ calls -- especially if Cox buys, as Scott and > >> Lance floated on their podcast. (Wasn't Cox considering unloading 25 > about > >> 10 minutes ago? I don't see a 25/1030 marriage going smoothly.) > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:35 AM Doug Drown > wrote: > >> > >> "You can be sure if it's Westinghouse." Uhh . . . Not any more. > >>> > >>> Rob is right. Westinghouse put WBZ on the air in 1921, bought CBS in > >>> 1995, > >>> and *became *CBS two years later, the tail having wagged the dog. > >>> > >>> I haven't been attentive as to what will be happening with KDKA and > KYW, > >>> which are in similar circumstances. > >>> > >>> Robert Wright, the former CEO of NBC, once made the remark that getting > >>> the > >>> network out of radio was the worst mistake he made during his time at > the > >>> helm. A legacy disappeared. The same thing happened with ABC's > historic > >>> O&Os. Sadly, I expect it will here, too. > >>> > >>> In addition, what will become of WBZ's close working relationship with > >>> Channel 4? > >>> > >>> > > -- > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 > > 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > > > -- Sent from my iPhone From ashboy1951@gmail.com Fri Oct 13 19:14:26 2017 From: ashboy1951@gmail.com (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 19:14:26 -0400 Subject: Who Might Get Boston-Area Stations Divested In The CBS Radio/Entercom Merger? Message-ID: I had an email conversation this afternoon with a friend who used to work for WTOP. He said that when Chancellor/Clear Channel (iHeart) took over the station they ravaged it. Bonneville rebuilt it once again into a successful and well-run operation; Hubbard then bought it and went to work, making heavy investments, to make a top-notch product even better. It worked: WTOP has been the top-billing radio station in the U.S. during six of the last eight years. He's in hopes that Hubbard will be WBZ's buyer. Now that I've read all this, so am I. From scott@fybush.com Fri Oct 13 19:41:23 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 19:41:23 -0400 Subject: Who Might Get Boston-Area Stations Divested In The CBS Radio/Entercom Merger? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: By way of clarification... WTOP was never owned by Chancellor or any of its successors (including Clear Channel/iHeart). Chase sold WTOP and WASH-FM to Evergreen in 1992, and Evergreen sold WTOP to Bonneville in 1997. Evergreen was then acquired by Chancellor a year or so later. That said, WTOP definitely went on a big growth spurt after 1997 under Bonneville, becoming the top revenue producer in the nation as it migrated from AM to a network of FM signals. On Oct 13, 2017 7:16 PM, "Doug Drown" wrote: > I had an email conversation this afternoon with a friend who used to work > for WTOP. He said that when Chancellor/Clear Channel (iHeart) took over > the station they ravaged it. Bonneville rebuilt it once again into a > successful and well-run operation; Hubbard then bought it and went to work, > making heavy investments, to make a top-notch product even better. It > worked: WTOP has been the top-billing radio station in the U.S. during six > of the last eight years. He's in hopes that Hubbard will be WBZ's buyer. > Now that I've read all this, so am I. > From scott@fybush.com Fri Oct 13 20:03:50 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:03:50 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: <0aa27fc2-1cd9-41a0-2084-e2c5b9246405@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Of the groups that already have active TV newsrooms in town, only one - Cox's WFXT - is a serious contender. (Hearst has retained only one of its radio holdings, WBAL/WIYY in Baltimore, and appears to have no interest either in growing radio or selling WBAL; there's been no reason to think Ed Ansin's WHDH-TV or Comcast's NBC Boston have any interest in radio.) If Cox were to buy 1030, it would probably have as little interest in keeping its competitor's callsign as CBS would have in transferring that callsign to its competitor. And while it would be odd indeed to hear 1030 as "WFXT Newsradio" or "Boston 25 Newsradio" or whatever branding Cox would put there, I think in the end that people don't listen *because* of the calls. They listen because they're habituated to hit 1030 for local news and traffic and sports, and as long as those elements are still there, a quiet "WFXT Boston" at the top of the hour isn't going to change those habits as much as one might think. (The challenge then comes in when Cox tries to do what it's done in Atlanta and Jacksonville and Orlando, moving habituated AM listeners over to the FM dial. That's somewhat easier to do when you can use a familiar brand like "WSB" or "WDBO" to pull them along to FM. But even so, "Newsradio 1030 is now also Newsradio 97.7 FM" isn't an impossible transition to make.) Another consideration: CBS is unloading the CBS Radio division to get money. If they can get more money by selling the 1030 facility with the WBZ calls, they have little reason to withhold the calls and reduce their income. Whatever 1030 is doing - even if it's cross-promoting Boston 25 News - it's a business unit CBS has already decided not to continue. It is, after all, equally possible that Entercom could partner WCBS(AM) with Fox's WNYW as a TV news partner, or KNX(AM) with ABC's KABC-TV. Once CBS has sold it, CBS forfeits any further control over what happens on radio, and CBS management is apparently OK with that. It's a strange new world. s On 10/13/2017 5:15 PM, Sean Smyth wrote: > And I doubt CBS would approve 1030 keeping those calls if it was bought > by a group that already has an active (TV) newsroom in town. How much is > 1030 worth without those call letters? A helluva lot less, IMO, even > with the massive signal. > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 4:54 PM Scott Fybush > wrote: > > The rights to the base call stay with the owner that's had them the > longest. CBS keeps "WBZ" and the others.? There's a contractual > provision > giving Entercom a license to keep using WBZ on radio and (with approval > from CBS) to transfer that license to a new owner. > > On Oct 13, 2017 1:58 AM, "A Joseph Ross" > wrote: > > > For some years now, it has been possible for separately-owned > stations in > > different services to have the same base call letters. It was > once noted in > > this forum that there is a WKLB (AM) somewhere, under different > ownership > > than the local WKLB-FM.? I think the station which had the call > first has > > to give consent.? So I imagine that WBZ (AM) can control whether > anyone > > else gets to be WBZ-xx. Any necessary consents may be part of the > terms of > > the sale.? ?I suspect if WBZ-FM is sold separately from the AM, > it may be > > required to change the callsign. > > > > > > On 10/12/2017 2:43 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > > > >> I'm curious about the WBZ calls -- especially if Cox buys, as > Scott and > >> Lance floated on their podcast. (Wasn't Cox considering > unloading 25 about > >> 10 minutes ago? I don't see a 25/1030 marriage going smoothly.) > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:35 AM Doug Drown > wrote: > >> > >> "You can be sure if it's Westinghouse."? ?Uhh . . . Not any more. > >>> > >>> Rob is right.? Westinghouse put WBZ on the air in 1921, bought > CBS in > >>> 1995, > >>> and *became *CBS two years later, the tail having wagged the dog. > >>> > >>> I haven't been attentive as to what will be happening with KDKA > and KYW, > >>> which are in similar circumstances. > >>> > >>> Robert Wright, the former CEO of NBC, once made the remark that > getting > >>> the > >>> network out of radio was the worst mistake he made during his > time at the > >>> helm.? A legacy disappeared.? The same thing happened with > ABC's historic > >>> O&Os.? Sadly, I expect it will here, too. > >>> > >>> In addition, what will become of WBZ's close working > relationship with > >>> Channel 4? > >>> > >>> > > -- > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA > 02459 > > 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > -- > Sent from my iPhone From 011010001@interpring.com Fri Oct 13 20:16:25 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:16:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: <0aa27fc2-1cd9-41a0-2084-e2c5b9246405@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Oct 2017, Scott Fybush wrote: > Another consideration: CBS is unloading the CBS Radio division to get money. > If they can get more money by selling the 1030 facility with the WBZ calls, > they have little reason to withhold the calls and reduce their income. Unless "WBZ" is an important part of their TV station branding. Most folks here think of it as "Channel 4", so perhaps the call letters aren't so important. But I'm not in TV, and I rarely even watch TV these days. Rob From ashboy1951@gmail.com Fri Oct 13 20:43:58 2017 From: ashboy1951@gmail.com (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:43:58 -0400 Subject: Who Might Get Boston-Area Stations Divested In The CBS Radio/Entercom Merger? Message-ID: >>By way of clarification... WTOP was never owned by Chancellor or any of its successors (including Clear Channel/iHeart). Chase sold WTOP and WASH-FM to Evergreen in 1992, and Evergreen sold WTOP to Bonneville in 1997. Evergreen was then acquired by Chancellor a year or so later.<< My mistake; I meant Evergreen rather than Chancellor. (There have been so many of these companies, I find it confusing.) It was Evergreen, now iHeart, that gutted WTOP and Bonneville that rebuilt it. Hubbard has continued what Bonneville began. -Doug From billohno@gmail.com Fri Oct 13 20:44:31 2017 From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:44:31 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: <0aa27fc2-1cd9-41a0-2084-e2c5b9246405@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <61E10783-CB49-4292-94BA-DBB79F73CFF9@gmail.com> WBZ Radio? Without its heritage calls? A buyer would be nuts to not work those into the deal. Unless their ultimate aim is to waste investor cash. Bill O?Neill > On Oct 13, 2017, at 8:16 PM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017, Scott Fybush wrote: >> >> Another consideration: CBS is unloading the CBS Radio division to get money. If they can get more money by selling the 1030 facility with the WBZ calls, they have little reason to withhold the calls and reduce their income. > > Unless "WBZ" is an important part of their TV station branding. Most folks here think of it as "Channel 4", so perhaps the call letters aren't so important. But I'm not in TV, and I rarely even watch TV these days. > > > Rob From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Fri Oct 13 20:45:26 2017 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 00:45:26 +0000 Subject: Who Might Get Boston-Area Stations Divested In The CBS Radio/Entercom Merger? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: WTOP has had some layoffs under Hubbard, but not sure how much of that was the business climate vs. cost cutting. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 7:42 PM Scott Fybush wrote: > By way of clarification... WTOP was never owned by Chancellor or any of its > successors (including Clear Channel/iHeart). > > Chase sold WTOP and WASH-FM to Evergreen in 1992, and Evergreen sold WTOP > to Bonneville in 1997. Evergreen was then acquired by Chancellor a year or > so later. > > That said, WTOP definitely went on a big growth spurt after 1997 under > Bonneville, becoming the top revenue producer in the nation as it migrated > from AM to a network of FM signals. > > On Oct 13, 2017 7:16 PM, "Doug Drown" wrote: > > > I had an email conversation this afternoon with a friend who used to work > > for WTOP. He said that when Chancellor/Clear Channel (iHeart) took over > > the station they ravaged it. Bonneville rebuilt it once again into a > > successful and well-run operation; Hubbard then bought it and went to > work, > > making heavy investments, to make a top-notch product even better. It > > worked: WTOP has been the top-billing radio station in the U.S. during > six > > of the last eight years. He's in hopes that Hubbard will be WBZ's buyer. > > Now that I've read all this, so am I. > > > -- Sent from my iPhone From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Fri Oct 13 20:48:27 2017 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 00:48:27 +0000 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: <0aa27fc2-1cd9-41a0-2084-e2c5b9246405@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: I'm one of those sentimental fools that would be saddened to see 1030 drop 96-year-old call letters. I also realize, as you wrote, that most people probably don't care -- as long as it's still in the presets. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:03 PM Scott Fybush wrote: > Of the groups that already have active TV newsrooms in town, only one - > Cox's WFXT - is a serious contender. (Hearst has retained only one of > its radio holdings, WBAL/WIYY in Baltimore, and appears to have no > interest either in growing radio or selling WBAL; there's been no reason > to think Ed Ansin's WHDH-TV or Comcast's NBC Boston have any interest in > radio.) > > If Cox were to buy 1030, it would probably have as little interest in > keeping its competitor's callsign as CBS would have in transferring that > callsign to its competitor. > > And while it would be odd indeed to hear 1030 as "WFXT Newsradio" or > "Boston 25 Newsradio" or whatever branding Cox would put there, I think > in the end that people don't listen *because* of the calls. They listen > because they're habituated to hit 1030 for local news and traffic and > sports, and as long as those elements are still there, a quiet "WFXT > Boston" at the top of the hour isn't going to change those habits as > much as one might think. > > (The challenge then comes in when Cox tries to do what it's done in > Atlanta and Jacksonville and Orlando, moving habituated AM listeners > over to the FM dial. That's somewhat easier to do when you can use a > familiar brand like "WSB" or "WDBO" to pull them along to FM. But even > so, "Newsradio 1030 is now also Newsradio 97.7 FM" isn't an impossible > transition to make.) > > Another consideration: CBS is unloading the CBS Radio division to get > money. If they can get more money by selling the 1030 facility with the > WBZ calls, they have little reason to withhold the calls and reduce > their income. Whatever 1030 is doing - even if it's cross-promoting > Boston 25 News - it's a business unit CBS has already decided not to > continue. It is, after all, equally possible that Entercom could partner > WCBS(AM) with Fox's WNYW as a TV news partner, or KNX(AM) with ABC's > KABC-TV. Once CBS has sold it, CBS forfeits any further control over > what happens on radio, and CBS management is apparently OK with that. > It's a strange new world. > > s > > On 10/13/2017 5:15 PM, Sean Smyth wrote: > > And I doubt CBS would approve 1030 keeping those calls if it was bought > > by a group that already has an active (TV) newsroom in town. How much is > > 1030 worth without those call letters? A helluva lot less, IMO, even > > with the massive signal. > > > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 4:54 PM Scott Fybush > > wrote: > > > > The rights to the base call stay with the owner that's had them the > > longest. CBS keeps "WBZ" and the others. There's a contractual > > provision > > giving Entercom a license to keep using WBZ on radio and (with > approval > > from CBS) to transfer that license to a new owner. > > > > On Oct 13, 2017 1:58 AM, "A Joseph Ross" > > wrote: > > > > > For some years now, it has been possible for separately-owned > > stations in > > > different services to have the same base call letters. It was > > once noted in > > > this forum that there is a WKLB (AM) somewhere, under different > > ownership > > > than the local WKLB-FM. I think the station which had the call > > first has > > > to give consent. So I imagine that WBZ (AM) can control whether > > anyone > > > else gets to be WBZ-xx. Any necessary consents may be part of the > > terms of > > > the sale. I suspect if WBZ-FM is sold separately from the AM, > > it may be > > > required to change the callsign. > > > > > > > > > On 10/12/2017 2:43 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > > > > > >> I'm curious about the WBZ calls -- especially if Cox buys, as > > Scott and > > >> Lance floated on their podcast. (Wasn't Cox considering > > unloading 25 about > > >> 10 minutes ago? I don't see a 25/1030 marriage going smoothly.) > > >> > > >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:35 AM Doug Drown > > wrote: > > >> > > >> "You can be sure if it's Westinghouse." Uhh . . . Not any more. > > >>> > > >>> Rob is right. Westinghouse put WBZ on the air in 1921, bought > > CBS in > > >>> 1995, > > >>> and *became *CBS two years later, the tail having wagged the > dog. > > >>> > > >>> I haven't been attentive as to what will be happening with KDKA > > and KYW, > > >>> which are in similar circumstances. > > >>> > > >>> Robert Wright, the former CEO of NBC, once made the remark that > > getting > > >>> the > > >>> network out of radio was the worst mistake he made during his > > time at the > > >>> helm. A legacy disappeared. The same thing happened with > > ABC's historic > > >>> O&Os. Sadly, I expect it will here, too. > > >>> > > >>> In addition, what will become of WBZ's close working > > relationship with > > >>> Channel 4? > > >>> > > >>> > > > -- > > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA > > 02459 > > > 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from my iPhone > -- Sent from my iPhone From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Oct 13 20:27:44 2017 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:27:44 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: <0aa27fc2-1cd9-41a0-2084-e2c5b9246405@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <69485C80-3C84-4C6F-8650-9EAD37E4255F@comcast.net> Actually these days ?WBZ? is a huge part of their TV branding. They rarely, if ever mention ?4? at all. The logo shows the CBS eye, the number 4, and WBZ below, but ?CBS 4? gets no mention, completely different from the way it was 10-15 years ago. Jeff Lehmann > On Oct 13, 2017, at 8:16 PM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017, Scott Fybush wrote: >> >> Another consideration: CBS is unloading the CBS Radio division to get money. If they can get more money by selling the 1030 facility with the WBZ calls, they have little reason to withhold the calls and reduce their income. > > Unless "WBZ" is an important part of their TV station branding. Most folks here think of it as "Channel 4", so perhaps the call letters aren't so important. But I'm not in TV, and I rarely even watch TV these days. > > > Rob From scott@fybush.com Fri Oct 13 21:05:01 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 21:05:01 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: <61E10783-CB49-4292-94BA-DBB79F73CFF9@gmail.com> References: <0aa27fc2-1cd9-41a0-2084-e2c5b9246405@attorneyross.com> <61E10783-CB49-4292-94BA-DBB79F73CFF9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Unless the buyer is Cox and it doesn't want to promote its TV competition in town. On 10/13/2017 8:44 PM, billohno@gmail.com wrote: > WBZ Radio? Without its heritage calls? A buyer would be nuts to not work those into the deal. Unless their ultimate aim is to waste investor cash. > > Bill O?Neill > >> On Oct 13, 2017, at 8:16 PM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017, Scott Fybush wrote: >>> >>> Another consideration: CBS is unloading the CBS Radio division to get money. If they can get more money by selling the 1030 facility with the WBZ calls, they have little reason to withhold the calls and reduce their income. >> >> Unless "WBZ" is an important part of their TV station branding. Most folks here think of it as "Channel 4", so perhaps the call letters aren't so important. But I'm not in TV, and I rarely even watch TV these days. >> >> >> Rob From map@mapinternet.com Sat Oct 14 10:18:24 2017 From: map@mapinternet.com (M.Casey) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 10:18:24 -0400 Subject: Who gets to keep WBZ calls? In-Reply-To: References: <0aa27fc2-1cd9-41a0-2084-e2c5b9246405@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <511A07EB693848208549C03A35E38A87@laptop> Seems like most TV viewers don't pay so much attention to TV calls as radio listeners do. That was proved to me, many years ago when WTIC Ch 3 in Hartford was sold and changed calls to WFSB and viewership was not impacted. WTIC at or near the top of ratings on AM, FM & TV and was a heritage call in Hartford and WTIC calls remained with the AM, and FM stations. Yet, later WTIC calls appeared on Ch 61, although mostly for nostalgic reasons and those TV calls did not appear to have an effect on TV ratings, as Fox, Ch61 has toggled identities CH61, WTIC Ch61, Fox CT, and back to, now Fox CH61. So, Max $/value for this deal would probably mean that WBZ calls stay on 1030, and Channel 4 gets a new callsign. I'm going to miss CH4 weather on 1030. I believe that the ch4 TV meteorologists are among the best, or maybe the best in the country on radio and TV. CBS often uses CH 4 meteorogists for national news reports. And, they know how to deliver a concise and accurate radio weather forecast. EX: In just a minute you will know that Cape Cod might be going to have showers due to a storm passing to the south, yet Boston will be rainfree and you might find some sun out near Worcester & Lowell. More than many other areas of the country, New England is often near the confluence of continental and coastal storms and fronts, so conditions often vary a lot over a smaller area. We often have dry, pleasant weather in Springfield and Hartford when Boston is drizzly due to stalled low pressure just off the coast. And, Ch 4 Wx is much better than accuweather. We have some very good wx forecasters here in Springfield -Hartford area also. A quality detailed forecast on TV is one thing I try to get every morning, followed by good forecasts, like the ones on WBZ AM, and WTIC AM, from the radio, during the day. Mark Casey -----Original Message----- From: Rob Landry Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 8:16 PM To: Scott Fybush Cc: Sean Smyth ; A Joseph Ross ; Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: Entercom announces what it plans to keep On Fri, 13 Oct 2017, Scott Fybush wrote: > Another consideration: CBS is unloading the CBS Radio division to get > money. If they can get more money by selling the 1030 facility with the > WBZ calls, they have little reason to withhold the calls and reduce their > income. Unless "WBZ" is an important part of their TV station branding. Most folks here think of it as "Channel 4", so perhaps the call letters aren't so important. But I'm not in TV, and I rarely even watch TV these days. Rob From attychase@comcast.net Sat Oct 14 15:44:07 2017 From: attychase@comcast.net (Attorney Chase) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 15:44:07 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep References: Message-ID: I agree with those who have made the point that WBZ TV's call letters may play a greater part in their brand identity than their network logo. Given that some won't watch a certain network's "news" and may shy away from anything that carries that brand, even on the local level where perhaps the "news" has different approach, (the Boston outlet being a good example) why would any local station want to alienate part of its viewer base for no apparent gain. This is especially true about the WBZ call letters and brand effect. Ffor years the competencies of that station which are associated with its call letters have been unparalleled, something others have referred to as "heritage" branding . Bob Chase From scott@fybush.com Sat Oct 14 16:27:49 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:27:49 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2c887a79-606e-b049-cfb0-7abc49d82a12@fybush.com> I think we're a little off course here. WBZ-TV is not changing its calls, period. Nor are WCBS-TV, KYW-TV, WJZ-TV, KDKA-TV, WBBM-TV or KCBS-TV. CBS is keeping those heritage calls on its TV stations. They have no reason to change them, and they know as well as we do that there's some value to those brands that should stay with the TVs. The issue is whether it will share those calls with the CBS Radio stations when they're sold. We know that the contract between CBS and Entercom provides that Entercom itself gets a perpetual license to continue using those base calls on its radio stations - so there will be no call changes at WCBS(AM), WCBS-FM, KYW(AM), KDKA(AM), KDKA-FM, WBBM(AM), WBBM-FM, KCBS(AM) or KCBS-FM. (My recollection is that WJZ was excluded for some reason, probably because there's no news-talk format using those calls, just two sports stations that could change calls without anyone noticing.) Which leaves us with WBZ(AM) and WBZ-FM. If they're transferred to another radio broadcaster, the perpetual license to use the calls continues. If they are transferred to anyone else, that's where CBS then has to give permission. Which is basically to say, this is all only an issue if it's Cox and WFXT buying. And we simply don't know if that's the case yet. s On 10/14/2017 3:44 PM, Attorney Chase wrote: > I agree with those who have made the point that WBZ TV's call letters may > play a greater part in their brand identity than their network logo. Given > that some won't watch a certain network's "news" and may shy away from > anything that carries that brand, even on the local level where perhaps the > "news" has different approach, (the Boston outlet being a good example) why > would any local station want to alienate part of its viewer base for no > apparent gain. This is especially true about the WBZ call letters and brand > effect. Ffor years the competencies of that station which are associated > with its call letters have been unparalleled, something others have referred > to as "heritage" branding . > > Bob Chase > > From rjd444@gmail.com Sat Oct 14 18:17:00 2017 From: rjd444@gmail.com (Bob DeMattia) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 11:17:00 -1100 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: <69485C80-3C84-4C6F-8650-9EAD37E4255F@comcast.net> References: <0aa27fc2-1cd9-41a0-2084-e2c5b9246405@attorneyross.com> <69485C80-3C84-4C6F-8650-9EAD37E4255F@comcast.net> Message-ID: What Jeff said. If I remember correctly, the effort to rebrand as "CBS 4" failed and they brought back the WBZ. Bob On Oct 14, 2017 13:12, "Jeff Lehmann" wrote: > Actually these days ?WBZ? is a huge part of their TV branding. They > rarely, if ever mention ?4? at all. The logo shows the CBS eye, the number > 4, and WBZ below, but ?CBS 4? gets no mention, completely different from > the way it was 10-15 years ago. > > Jeff Lehmann > > > On Oct 13, 2017, at 8:16 PM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017, Scott Fybush wrote: > >> > >> Another consideration: CBS is unloading the CBS Radio division to get > money. If they can get more money by selling the 1030 facility with the WBZ > calls, they have little reason to withhold the calls and reduce their > income. > > > > Unless "WBZ" is an important part of their TV station branding. Most > folks here think of it as "Channel 4", so perhaps the call letters aren't > so important. But I'm not in TV, and I rarely even watch TV these days. > > > > > > Rob > > > From adamnw@aol.com Sat Oct 14 18:37:25 2017 From: adamnw@aol.com (adamnw@aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 18:37:25 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: <2c887a79-606e-b049-cfb0-7abc49d82a12@fybush.com> Message-ID: <15f1d08ec7d-c0e-21968@webjas-vab090.srv.aolmail.net> Is it possible that the Patriots/Krafts would buy BZ FM and / or BZ AM? -----Original Message----- From: Scott Fybush To: boston-radio-interest Sent: Sat, Oct 14, 2017 4:29 pm Subject: Re: Entercom announces what it plans to keep I think we're a little off course here. WBZ-TV is not changing its calls, period. Nor are WCBS-TV, KYW-TV, WJZ-TV, KDKA-TV, WBBM-TV or KCBS-TV. CBS is keeping those heritage calls on its TV stations. They have no reason to change them, and they know as well as we do that there's some value to those brands that should stay with the TVs. The issue is whether it will share those calls with the CBS Radio stations when they're sold. We know that the contract between CBS and Entercom provides that Entercom itself gets a perpetual license to continue using those base calls on its radio stations - so there will be no call changes at WCBS(AM), WCBS-FM, KYW(AM), KDKA(AM), KDKA-FM, WBBM(AM), WBBM-FM, KCBS(AM) or KCBS-FM. (My recollection is that WJZ was excluded for some reason, probably because there's no news-talk format using those calls, just two sports stations that could change calls without anyone noticing.) Which leaves us with WBZ(AM) and WBZ-FM. If they're transferred to another radio broadcaster, the perpetual license to use the calls continues. If they are transferred to anyone else, that's where CBS then has to give permission. Which is basically to say, this is all only an issue if it's Cox and WFXT buying. And we simply don't know if that's the case yet. s On 10/14/2017 3:44 PM, Attorney Chase wrote: > I agree with those who have made the point that WBZ TV's call letters may > play a greater part in their brand identity than their network logo. Given > that some won't watch a certain network's "news" and may shy away from > anything that carries that brand, even on the local level where perhaps the > "news" has different approach, (the Boston outlet being a good example) why > would any local station want to alienate part of its viewer base for no > apparent gain. This is especially true about the WBZ call letters and brand > effect. Ffor years the competencies of that station which are associated > with its call letters have been unparalleled, something others have referred > to as "heritage" branding . > > Bob Chase > > From ashboy1951@gmail.com Sat Oct 14 22:42:25 2017 From: ashboy1951@gmail.com (Doug Drown) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 22:42:25 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep Message-ID: Re what Bob said: This is Boston, after all --- a city steeped in tradition in a region steeped in tradition. The WBZ calls are, I dare say, as much a part of Boston's identity as Harvard*, the Kennedys, Gillette, Fenway Park, and baked beans. This is a station that has been around for nearly a century (and its TV counterpart for nearly seventy). No wonder "CBS4" didn't work. * - Yes, I know Harvard's in Cambridge. ? From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Oct 15 02:27:49 2017 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 02:27:49 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, I thought WHDH radio and WNAC radio were traditions too, as was Jordan Marsh, but they're long gone. On 10/14/2017 10:42 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > Re what Bob said: This is Boston, after all --- a city steeped in tradition > in a region steeped in tradition. The WBZ calls are, I dare say, as much a > part of Boston's identity as Harvard*, the Kennedys, Gillette, Fenway Park, > and baked beans. This is a station that has been around for nearly a > century (and its TV counterpart for nearly seventy). No wonder "CBS4" > didn't work. > > * - Yes, I know Harvard's in Cambridge. ? > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Oct 15 02:06:56 2017 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 02:06:56 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually in a few years there will be more Harvard facilities in Allston than Cambridge. Scott - I am going to throw this out for you. Could John Henry, Fenway Sports Group and the Globe be a sleeper in this? I doubt Ansin is a factor in this as he told Mugar to unload WHDH-AM before he would agree to buy Channel 7 - I do know that Ansin and NESN are talking over Channel 7 airing some Bruins and Red Sox games in 2018 and is also talking to Bloomberg over being the local outlet for the July 4th Pops next year. 7News is holding their own ratings wise for news across the board and are a comfortable third in the market behind 4 and 5. WFXT and NBC Boston trail 7 badly. Just the thought of the WBZ calls no longer being used on 1030 saddens me. On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 10:42 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > Re what Bob said: This is Boston, after all --- a city steeped in tradition > in a region steeped in tradition. The WBZ calls are, I dare say, as much a > part of Boston's identity as Harvard*, the Kennedys, Gillette, Fenway Park, > and baked beans. This is a station that has been around for nearly a > century (and its TV counterpart for nearly seventy). No wonder "CBS4" > didn't work. > > * - Yes, I know Harvard's in Cambridge. ? > From ashboy1951@gmail.com Sun Oct 15 07:47:24 2017 From: ashboy1951@gmail.com (Doug Drown) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 07:47:24 -0400 Subject: Who Might Get Boston-Area Stations Divested in The CBS Radio/Entercom Merger? Message-ID: >>iheart and Cumulus have both shown they do not know how to run radio stations. CBS did this well. WhyTF they want out is beyond me. My pick: Hubbard for WBZ-AM/FM, WZLX, and WRKO. A minority owner should snatch WKAF ASAP to serve that community.<< Thumbs up! From scott@fybush.com Sun Oct 15 12:17:01 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:17:01 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <936d640b-5c08-f113-fea7-50d24769843c@fybush.com> On 10/15/2017 2:06 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Scott - I am going to throw this out for you. Could John Henry, Fenway > Sports Group and the Globe be a sleeper in this? Lance and I touched on this briefly in the Top of the Tower podcast we did last week on the topic. The problem, still, is the antiquated newspaper-broadcast cross-ownership ban. Everyone agrees it's bad policy, and yet nobody has made it go away. Until it does, the Globe can't own (or have dominant cross-ownership with) any radio or TV stations. Nor can the Herald, which means a Herald-WRKO combination that might also make sense is also impossible for now. (And it's interesting to note that had the Sox bought WBOS, as almost happened a decade ago, John Henry would then have had a hard time acquiring the Globe and saving it.) s From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Oct 15 12:49:55 2017 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:49:55 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: <936d640b-5c08-f113-fea7-50d24769843c@fybush.com> References: <936d640b-5c08-f113-fea7-50d24769843c@fybush.com> Message-ID: <23011.37299.650795.446605@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > The problem, still, is the antiquated newspaper-broadcast > cross-ownership ban. Everyone agrees it's bad policy, and yet nobody has > made it go away. Someone with deep pockets needs to take it to court: it's a clear 1A violation, given the way the courts have been interpreting it lately. Just needs someone friendly to do the deed, and since all of the broadcast sales lately have been highly transactional and "how can I unload this the fastest" it's difficult to find a pair of parties willing to stick it out for the two-plus years that it would take to get through the FCC and the DC Circuit. There's just nobody with sufficient incentive. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Sun Oct 15 14:57:43 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 14:57:43 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: <936d640b-5c08-f113-fea7-50d24769843c@fybush.com> Message-ID: Yup - grandfathered. There aren't many of those left, but a few were able to survive. Those include Atlanta, Reading PA (WEEU radio and the Reading Eagle), Scranton PA (Times-Tribune and the Shamrock stations), and I know I'll think of more as soon as I hit send. A lot of grandfathered combos have disappeared in just the last few years as heritage broadcast-print companies have split up. The split of Tribune's print properties into Tronc pulled WGN away from the Tribune, for instance, and the deal that combined Scripps' print properties into Gannett and its broadcast properties into TEGNA split up the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel from WTMJ radio/TV. The Wolfe family in Columbus sold the Dispatch to Gatehouse (eewww) and kept WBNS radio and TV. And on it goes. On 10/15/2017 2:49 PM, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > How is Cox able to own the Atlanta Journal Constitution, WSB-TV, WSB AM and the rest of the cluster of radio stations? Were they grandfathered? > > Jeff Lehmann > >> On Oct 15, 2017, at 12:17 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: >> >>> On 10/15/2017 2:06 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >>> >>> Scott - I am going to throw this out for you. Could John Henry, Fenway >>> Sports Group and the Globe be a sleeper in this? >> >> Lance and I touched on this briefly in the Top of the Tower podcast we did last week on the topic. >> >> The problem, still, is the antiquated newspaper-broadcast cross-ownership ban. Everyone agrees it's bad policy, and yet nobody has made it go away. Until it does, the Globe can't own (or have dominant cross-ownership with) any radio or TV stations. Nor can the Herald, which means a Herald-WRKO combination that might also make sense is also impossible for now. >> >> (And it's interesting to note that had the Sox bought WBOS, as almost happened a decade ago, John Henry would then have had a hard time acquiring the Globe and saving it.) >> >> s > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sun Oct 15 14:49:49 2017 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 14:49:49 -0400 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: <936d640b-5c08-f113-fea7-50d24769843c@fybush.com> References: <936d640b-5c08-f113-fea7-50d24769843c@fybush.com> Message-ID: How is Cox able to own the Atlanta Journal Constitution, WSB-TV, WSB AM and the rest of the cluster of radio stations? Were they grandfathered? Jeff Lehmann > On Oct 15, 2017, at 12:17 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > >> On 10/15/2017 2:06 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> >> Scott - I am going to throw this out for you. Could John Henry, Fenway >> Sports Group and the Globe be a sleeper in this? > > Lance and I touched on this briefly in the Top of the Tower podcast we did last week on the topic. > > The problem, still, is the antiquated newspaper-broadcast cross-ownership ban. Everyone agrees it's bad policy, and yet nobody has made it go away. Until it does, the Globe can't own (or have dominant cross-ownership with) any radio or TV stations. Nor can the Herald, which means a Herald-WRKO combination that might also make sense is also impossible for now. > > (And it's interesting to note that had the Sox bought WBOS, as almost happened a decade ago, John Henry would then have had a hard time acquiring the Globe and saving it.) > > s From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Sun Oct 15 15:33:18 2017 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 19:33:18 +0000 Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: <936d640b-5c08-f113-fea7-50d24769843c@fybush.com> References: <936d640b-5c08-f113-fea7-50d24769843c@fybush.com> Message-ID: How stringent is the FCC in interpreting this stuff? If Henry didn't buy WBZ(AM) but Fenway Sports Group -- which does not own the paper -- did, how would that go? I know Murdoch had issues here and in NYC, but in the case of FSG Henry isn't the only major principal. On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM Scott Fybush wrote: > On 10/15/2017 2:06 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > > Scott - I am going to throw this out for you. Could John Henry, Fenway > > Sports Group and the Globe be a sleeper in this? > > Lance and I touched on this briefly in the Top of the Tower podcast we > did last week on the topic. > > The problem, still, is the antiquated newspaper-broadcast > cross-ownership ban. Everyone agrees it's bad policy, and yet nobody has > made it go away. Until it does, the Globe can't own (or have dominant > cross-ownership with) any radio or TV stations. Nor can the Herald, > which means a Herald-WRKO combination that might also make sense is also > impossible for now. > > (And it's interesting to note that had the Sox bought WBOS, as almost > happened a decade ago, John Henry would then have had a hard time > acquiring the Globe and saving it.) > > s > -- Sent from my iPhone From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Oct 16 07:29:49 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017, Doug Drown wrote: > * - Yes, I know Harvard's in Cambridge. ? Harvard actually owns more property in Boston than in Cambridge. Harvard Stadium, where the football team plays, is in Boston. Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Oct 16 07:35:19 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Scott - I am going to throw this out for you. Could John Henry, Fenway > Sports Group and the Globe be a sleeper in this? I'm not Scott, but I'm hearing that CBS will probably trade the stations to another broadcaster in exchange for stations in other markets. There are tax implications that favor trades over sales. The real question is: what group not already present in Boston would want WBZ and WBZ-FM? > Just the thought of the WBZ calls no longer being used on 1030 saddens me. Perhaps they'll go back to WBZA. Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Oct 16 07:37:02 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:37:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Who Might Get Boston-Area Stations Divested in The CBS Radio/Entercom Merger? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017, Doug Drown wrote: >>> iheart and Cumulus have both shown they do not know how to run radio > stations. CBS did this well. WhyTF they want out is beyond me. There's not enough money in radio to satisfy their shareholders. > My pick: Hubbard for WBZ-AM/FM, WZLX, and WRKO. A minority owner should > snatch WKAF ASAP to serve that community.<< I know of two groups who would buy 97.7 in a heartbeat if the price were reasonable. Rob From dillane@sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 24 10:15:47 2017 From: dillane@sbcglobal.net (Bill Dillane) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 14:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Recovered 1955 Radio Program Club Star Way WWNH Rochester References: <395167500.3387130.1508854547959.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <395167500.3387130.1508854547959@mail.yahoo.com> Donna Halper wrote... >There was indeed a guy named Lou Terri (with an I) on WPOP, doing news and traffic, in the mid-1960s. Lou Terri was the program director and mid-day guy at WIOF in CT from the start of its soft rock Magic 104 format in 1978 until his untimely death in 1989.? Both WIOF and WPOP at that time were owned by Merv Griffin. Lou's bio at the WPOP tribute site says his first on-air job was at WWNH. http://www.wdrcobg.com/wpop_tz.html From dillane@sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 24 10:39:58 2017 From: dillane@sbcglobal.net (Bill Dillane) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 14:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep References: <57261052.3396743.1508855998023.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <57261052.3396743.1508855998023@mail.yahoo.com> Bob DeMattia wrote... >If I remember correctly, the effort to rebrand as "CBS 4" failed and they brought back the WBZ. Channels 3 and 8 in CT still brand themselves with their WFSB and WTNH call letters.? Their websites are wfsb.com and wtnh.com.? NBC Connecticut never mentions its WVIT calls (Viacom International Television is meaningless to the station), and Fox 61 never mentions its WTIC-TV call letters. Doug Drown wrote... >It occurred to me that WBZ and WBZ-TV may well be the last two remaining commercial broadcasting stations in New England still under their original ownership. WATR in Waterbury, CT has been owned by the same family since the station's 1934 sign-on. From 011010001@interpring.com Wed Oct 25 06:33:57 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 06:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Entercom announces what it plans to keep In-Reply-To: <57261052.3396743.1508855998023@mail.yahoo.com> References: <57261052.3396743.1508855998023.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <57261052.3396743.1508855998023@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, Bill Dillane wrote: > NBC Connecticut never mentions its WVIT calls (Viacom International > Television is meaningless to the station), and Fox 61 never mentions its > WTIC-TV call letters. Well, "TIC" stood for "Travelers Insurance Company". Rob From astelle.donald@gmail.com Sun Oct 29 00:00:15 2017 From: astelle.donald@gmail.com (Don) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 00:00:15 -0400 Subject: Dick Biondi .....on WBZ? Message-ID: Just reading some info on Dick Biondi who made his name in Chicago & LA. It says that he was on WBZ for a short bit. HOwver, I NEVER hear anyone mention him as a WBZ personality. The article said around 1972-ish? Anyone recall Dick Biondi being at WBZ? D From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Oct 29 02:35:16 2017 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 02:35:16 -0400 Subject: Dick Biondi .....on WBZ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/29/2017 12:00 AM, Don wrote: > Just reading some info on Dick Biondi who made his name in Chicago & LA. > > It says that he was on WBZ for a short bit. HOwver, I NEVER hear > anyone mention him as a WBZ personality. According to the Buffalo Broadcasters Association, Biondi was (briefly) at WBZ in 1972; he was also at three other stations that year. The trades (I checked Billboard, Record World, and Cashbox) don't seem to notice his sojourn with WBZ, so it may be it was so brief that the station didn't have much to say about it. From lspin@comcast.net Sun Oct 29 06:44:26 2017 From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 06:44:26 -0400 Subject: Dick Biondi .....on WBZ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00d001d350a2$e46ae0d0$ad40a270$@comcast.net> I know that Dick Biondi appeared on WBZ's first Grease Weekend in Summer, 1972. -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 12:00 AM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Dick Biondi .....on WBZ? Just reading some info on Dick Biondi who made his name in Chicago & LA. It says that he was on WBZ for a short bit. HOwver, I NEVER hear anyone mention him as a WBZ personality. The article said around 1972-ish? Anyone recall Dick Biondi being at WBZ? D From tlmedia@intrstar.net Sun Oct 29 08:38:10 2017 From: tlmedia@intrstar.net (Ted Larsen) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 08:38:10 -0400 Subject: Dick Biondi .....on WBZ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I started my WBZ career in 1972 and his name was never mentioned, but I do recall his name from the other stations mentioned here. On 10/29/2017 1:34:53 AM, Don wrote: Just reading some info on Dick Biondi who made his name in Chicago & LA. It says that he was on WBZ for a short bit. HOwver, I NEVER hear anyone mention him as a WBZ personality. The article said around 1972-ish? Anyone recall Dick Biondi being at WBZ? D From denapoli137@msn.com Sun Oct 29 16:28:14 2017 From: denapoli137@msn.com (DENNIS Denapoli) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 20:28:14 +0000 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 21, Issue 120 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On the remember WBZ face book page Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2017, at 12:34 PM, "boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org" wrote: > > Send Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list submissions to > boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.BostonRadio.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fboston-radio-interest&data=02%7C01%7Cfoosing%40msn.com%7C65a6dbda89bb4564279508d51eeadf4d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636448916471025512&sdata=MUjkefTzb6t8ZP%2BcXn%2FQDGDr0OoY0xPDeG5ipEs%2FBu0%3D&reserved=0 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > boston-radio-interest-owner@lists.BostonRadio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Boston-Radio-Interest digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Dick Biondi .....on WBZ? (Don) > 2. Re: Dick Biondi .....on WBZ? (Donna Halper) > 3. RE: Dick Biondi .....on WBZ? (Lou) > 4. Re: Dick Biondi .....on WBZ? (Ted Larsen) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list > Boston-Radio-Interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.BostonRadio.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fboston-radio-interest&data=02%7C01%7Cfoosing%40msn.com%7C65a6dbda89bb4564279508d51eeadf4d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636448916471025512&sdata=MUjkefTzb6t8ZP%2BcXn%2FQDGDr0OoY0xPDeG5ipEs%2FBu0%3D&reserved=0 From dennisdenapoli@comcast.net Sun Oct 29 16:26:03 2017 From: dennisdenapoli@comcast.net (Dennis) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 16:26:03 -0400 Subject: Dick Biondi .....on WBZ? Message-ID: <05E7C202-F59D-4D9F-B5DD-E053FBE29675@comcast.net> Hi everyone Dick Biondi was on the 2 nd annual Grease weekend 1972 I was there at Nantasket Beach with Larry Justice Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2017, at 12:00 AM, Don wrote: > > Just reading some info on Dick Biondi who made his name in Chicago & LA. > > It says that he was on WBZ for a short bit. HOwver, I NEVER hear anyone mention him as a WBZ personality. > > The article said around 1972-ish? > > Anyone recall Dick Biondi being at WBZ? > > D > From pbencurrier@hotmail.com Mon Oct 30 17:08:28 2017 From: pbencurrier@hotmail.com (Paul Currier) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 21:08:28 +0000 Subject: Dick Biondi .....on WBZ? 'KB also In-Reply-To: <05E7C202-F59D-4D9F-B5DD-E053FBE29675@comcast.net> References: <05E7C202-F59D-4D9F-B5DD-E053FBE29675@comcast.net> Message-ID: I recall listening to him on WKBW in my early AM DX-ing days. I think 'KB snuck in between 'MEX and WPTR and perhaps WTOP was also in the mix. Paul C Sandwich ________________________________ From: Boston-Radio-Interest on behalf of Dennis Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 4:26 PM To: Don Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Dick Biondi .....on WBZ? Hi everyone Dick Biondi was on the 2 nd annual Grease weekend 1972 I was there at Nantasket Beach with Larry Justice Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2017, at 12:00 AM, Don wrote: > > Just reading some info on Dick Biondi who made his name in Chicago & LA. > > It says that he was on WBZ for a short bit. HOwver, I NEVER hear anyone mention him as a WBZ personality. > > The article said around 1972-ish? > > Anyone recall Dick Biondi being at WBZ? > > D > From denapoli137@msn.com Mon Oct 30 18:17:18 2017 From: denapoli137@msn.com (DENNIS Denapoli) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 22:17:18 +0000 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 21, Issue 121 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi again I started a remember WBZ radio face book page and a Remember WMEX face book page just ask to join love to have your input thanks Dennis D Sent from my iPad > On Oct 30, 2017, at 12:01 PM, "boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org" wrote: > > Send Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list submissions to > boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.BostonRadio.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fboston-radio-interest&data=02%7C01%7Cfoosing%40msn.com%7C7132036d2006457a1fd008d51faf75c1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636449760826988368&sdata=6A5IBzbPgd8VI6NNkSAkihkXQ31f63Ymn8fvPaCXLLc%3D&reserved=0 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > boston-radio-interest-owner@lists.BostonRadio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Boston-Radio-Interest digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. 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