From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Thu Nov 2 20:52:45 2017 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2017 00:52:45 +0000 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart Message-ID: WBZ(AM) and WRKO to iHeart. Some heartburn at 1170? Wonder how the traffic folk who just jumped over to the new service feel. WBZ-FM (how long before new calls?) to Beasley. Beasley has experience with sports on 97.5 in Philly, which like the Sports Hub started as an insurgent challenger and has done well. Any chance iHeart would make WBZ all-talk and move news to 680? -- Sent from my iPhone From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Nov 3 02:01:45 2017 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 02:01:45 -0400 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01172899-fdcb-d1bc-94ed-1ddfb471e653@attorneyross.com> Since WBZ news has been an institution in Boston for many decades, changing news to another station would be losing the benefit of a long reputation. On 11/2/2017 8:52 PM, Sean Smyth wrote: > WBZ(AM) and WRKO to iHeart. Some heartburn at 1170? Wonder how the traffic > folk who just jumped over to the new service feel. > > WBZ-FM (how long before new calls?) to Beasley. > > Beasley has experience with sports on 97.5 in Philly, which like the Sports > Hub started as an insurgent challenger and has done well. > > Any chance iHeart would make WBZ all-talk and move news to 680? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From 011010001@interpring.com Fri Nov 3 08:55:41 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 08:55:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Sean Smyth wrote: > Any chance iHeart would make WBZ all-talk and move news to 680? They would be well advised to pay heed to a sign that legend says is posted deep inside the offices of Frito-Lay Corporation. The sign reads: "don't f--- with Fritos." WBZ is the most lucrative AM station in Boston. They'd be crazy to mess with it. Moreover, they'll recall what happened when they moved Rush Limbaugh to 1200 in their ill-fated attempt to go after WRKO with their own conservative talk format, "Rush Radio". The listeners stayed with WRKO. I imagine they'll put Rush back on 680 now. How much longer is Bloomberg going to stay on 1200, now that they have 1330 and the FM? Rob From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Nov 3 09:56:24 2017 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 09:56:24 -0400 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have heard the Bloomberg contract for 1200 ends in Feb On Nov 3, 2017 9:31 AM, "Rob Landry" <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Sean Smyth wrote: Any chance iHeart would make WBZ all-talk and move news to 680? > They would be well advised to pay heed to a sign that legend says is posted deep inside the offices of Frito-Lay Corporation. The sign reads: "don't f--- with Fritos." WBZ is the most lucrative AM station in Boston. They'd be crazy to mess with it. Moreover, they'll recall what happened when they moved Rush Limbaugh to 1200 in their ill-fated attempt to go after WRKO with their own conservative talk format, "Rush Radio". The listeners stayed with WRKO. I imagine they'll put Rush back on 680 now. How much longer is Bloomberg going to stay on 1200, now that they have 1330 and the FM? Rob From rbello@belloassoc.com Fri Nov 3 11:24:01 2017 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 11:24:01 -0400 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Sean Smyth wrote: > > Any chance iHeart would make WBZ all-talk and move news to 680? >> > > They would be well advised to pay heed to a sign that legend says is > posted deep inside the offices of Frito-Lay Corporation. The sign reads: > "don't f--- with Fritos." > > WBZ is the most lucrative AM station in Boston. They'd be crazy to mess > with it. > > Moreover, they'll recall what happened when they moved Rush Limbaugh to > 1200 in their ill-fated attempt to go after WRKO with their own > conservative talk format, "Rush Radio". The listeners stayed with WRKO. > > I imagine they'll put Rush back on 680 now. > ?If they want to do All News, keep it on 1030 although the format is expensive to produce and how much news and how many listeners for news after 8-9pm ? ? > > How much longer is Bloomberg going to stay on 1200, now that they have > 1330 and the FM? > ?Coverage of Bloomberg on 1330 and 106.1 x 2 is terrible Impossible to listen in MetroWest area? or south of Brockton > > From gary@garysicecream.com Fri Nov 3 14:05:48 2017 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 14:05:48 -0400 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> I suspect that Dan Rea and the overnight live programming will be gone from WBZ shortly after the takeover. Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA www.garysicecream.com www.icecreamcollege.com -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Ron Bello Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 11:24 AM To: Rob Landry Cc: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Sean Smyth wrote: > > Any chance iHeart would make WBZ all-talk and move news to 680? >> > > They would be well advised to pay heed to a sign that legend says is > posted deep inside the offices of Frito-Lay Corporation. The sign reads: > "don't f--- with Fritos." > > WBZ is the most lucrative AM station in Boston. They'd be crazy to > mess with it. > > Moreover, they'll recall what happened when they moved Rush Limbaugh > to > 1200 in their ill-fated attempt to go after WRKO with their own > conservative talk format, "Rush Radio". The listeners stayed with WRKO. > > I imagine they'll put Rush back on 680 now. > ?If they want to do All News, keep it on 1030 although the format is expensive to produce and how much news and how many listeners for news after 8-9pm ? ? > > How much longer is Bloomberg going to stay on 1200, now that they have > 1330 and the FM? > ?Coverage of Bloomberg on 1330 and 106.1 x 2 is terrible Impossible to listen in MetroWest area? or south of Brockton > > From scott@fybush.com Fri Nov 3 15:38:49 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 15:38:49 -0400 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: It would be interesting to see the economics of that. I can't imagine that the total expenses of Dan's show - his salary, producer's salary, whatever production bits Mike Coleman does - can be more than maybe $150k a year. Even less for overnights. If they go syndicated at night, they drop those expenses, but there goes a bunch of local ad revenue and a ton of goodwill, too. OTOH, it's just not the iHeart model of doing talk, outside of maybe KFI and WLW. But then, they'll have 680 and maybe 1200 to clear their own Premiere stuff. So... who knows? On Nov 3, 2017 6:38 PM, "Gary's Ice Cream" wrote: I suspect that Dan Rea and the overnight live programming will be gone from WBZ shortly after the takeover. Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA www.garysicecream.com www.icecreamcollege.com -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest- bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Ron Bello Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 11:24 AM To: Rob Landry Cc: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Sean Smyth wrote: > > Any chance iHeart would make WBZ all-talk and move news to 680? >> > > They would be well advised to pay heed to a sign that legend says is > posted deep inside the offices of Frito-Lay Corporation. The sign reads: > "don't f--- with Fritos." > > WBZ is the most lucrative AM station in Boston. They'd be crazy to > mess with it. > > Moreover, they'll recall what happened when they moved Rush Limbaugh > to > 1200 in their ill-fated attempt to go after WRKO with their own > conservative talk format, "Rush Radio". The listeners stayed with WRKO. > > I imagine they'll put Rush back on 680 now. > ?If they want to do All News, keep it on 1030 although the format is expensive to produce and how much news and how many listeners for news after 8-9pm ? ? > > How much longer is Bloomberg going to stay on 1200, now that they have > 1330 and the FM? > ?Coverage of Bloomberg on 1330 and 106.1 x 2 is terrible Impossible to listen in MetroWest area? or south of Brockton > > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Nov 3 22:52:36 2017 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 22:52:36 -0400 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: Globe says iHeart wants WBZ employees to re apply for their jobs and they won't honor two union contracts. Employees, unions are shocked. iHeart wants a seamless transition... https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/11/03/wbz-would-owners-tells-employees-apply-for-their-jobs/Q8ZIoWcVH5bEPSN1Yy1kvM/story.html From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Fri Nov 3 22:55:20 2017 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2017 02:55:20 +0000 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: A seamless transition where there's massive uncertainty in the newsroom? Good luck with that. You're seeing the end of 1030 as you've known it. On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:52 PM Bob Nelson wrote: > Globe says iHeart wants WBZ employees to re apply for their jobs and they > won't honor two union contracts. Employees, unions are shocked. iHeart > wants a seamless transition... > > > https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/11/03/wbz-would-owners-tells-employees-apply-for-their-jobs/Q8ZIoWcVH5bEPSN1Yy1kvM/story.html > -- Sent from my iPhone From map@mapinternet.com Sat Nov 4 13:14:20 2017 From: map@mapinternet.com (M.Casey) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 13:14:20 -0400 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: Is there a chance that iHeart might sell WBZ AM, for cash, to another group shortly after the takeover? Mark Casey -----Original Message----- From: Scott Fybush Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 3:38 PM To: Gary's Ice Cream Cc: Ron Bello ; Rob Landry ; Boston Radio Group Subject: RE: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart It would be interesting to see the economics of that. I can't imagine that the total expenses of Dan's show - his salary, producer's salary, whatever production bits Mike Coleman does - can be more than maybe $150k a year. Even less for overnights. If they go syndicated at night, they drop those expenses, but there goes a bunch of local ad revenue and a ton of goodwill, too. OTOH, it's just not the iHeart model of doing talk, outside of maybe KFI and WLW. But then, they'll have 680 and maybe 1200 to clear their own Premiere stuff. So... who knows? On Nov 3, 2017 6:38 PM, "Gary's Ice Cream" wrote: I suspect that Dan Rea and the overnight live programming will be gone from WBZ shortly after the takeover. Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA www.garysicecream.com www.icecreamcollege.com -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest- bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Ron Bello Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 11:24 AM To: Rob Landry Cc: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Sean Smyth wrote: > > Any chance iHeart would make WBZ all-talk and move news to 680? >> > > They would be well advised to pay heed to a sign that legend says is > posted deep inside the offices of Frito-Lay Corporation. The sign reads: > "don't f--- with Fritos." > > WBZ is the most lucrative AM station in Boston. They'd be crazy to > mess with it. > > Moreover, they'll recall what happened when they moved Rush Limbaugh > to > 1200 in their ill-fated attempt to go after WRKO with their own > conservative talk format, "Rush Radio". The listeners stayed with WRKO. > > I imagine they'll put Rush back on 680 now. > ?If they want to do All News, keep it on 1030 although the format is expensive to produce and how much news and how many listeners for news after 8-9pm ? > > How much longer is Bloomberg going to stay on 1200, now that they have > 1330 and the FM? > ?Coverage of Bloomberg on 1330 and 106.1 x 2 is terrible Impossible to listen in MetroWest area? or south of Brockton > > From richard@chonak.com Sat Nov 4 14:38:23 2017 From: richard@chonak.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 14:38:23 -0400 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <8125d54b-0634-c18a-d175-ff31756ca9a9@chonak.com> On 11/03/2017 03:38 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > [...] it's just not the iHeart model of doing talk, outside of maybe KFI > and WLW. > One more exception: WNTM 710 in Mobile has the local and rather quirky "Uncle Henry Show" weekday mornings, followed by another local hour with an in-studio guest. --RC From ashboy1951@gmail.com Sat Nov 4 14:49:36 2017 From: ashboy1951@gmail.com (Doug Drown) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 14:49:36 -0400 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart Message-ID: I'm baffled as to why the FCC would allow the sale of WBZ (or any station, for that matter) to a company teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. That's on top of my bewilderment as to why CBS would want to sell it to begin with. From gary@garysicecream.com Sat Nov 4 17:31:35 2017 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 17:31:35 -0400 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0a3601d355b4$4c16c030$e4444090$@garysicecream.com> Why would the DOJ allow the sale to an almost bankrupt company? Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA www.garysicecream.com www.icecreamcollege.com -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Doug Drown Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2017 2:50 PM To: Boston Radio Group Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart I'm baffled as to why the FCC would allow the sale of WBZ (or any station, for that matter) to a company teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. That's on top of my bewilderment as to why CBS would want to sell it to begin with. From scott@fybush.com Sat Nov 4 18:13:52 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 22:13:52 +0000 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: <0a3601d355b4$4c16c030$e4444090$@garysicecream.com> References: <0a3601d355b4$4c16c030$e4444090$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: Why would the DOJ intervene? Its only concern is antitrust, and the new iHeart cluster in Boston is well under the 40% revenue threshold (even in any demographic breakdown) that would trigger DOJ review. As for why CBS is selling, blame the investment community. It wants to see growth from quarter to quarter, and while radio is still nicely profitable, it's not a growth sector. On 11/4/2017 9:31 PM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > Why would the DOJ allow the sale to an almost bankrupt company? > > Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA > www.garysicecream.com www.icecreamcollege.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Doug Drown > Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2017 2:50 PM > To: Boston Radio Group > Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart > > I'm baffled as to why the FCC would allow the sale of WBZ (or any station, for that matter) to a company teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. > > That's on top of my bewilderment as to why CBS would want to sell it to begin with. > > From adamnw@aol.com Fri Nov 3 15:20:54 2017 From: adamnw@aol.com (adamnw@aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 15:20:54 -0400 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <15f83543521-c07-4610@webjas-vad237.srv.aolmail.net> If they get rid of Dan Rea and overnight programming, I am sure many of people say "we've seen this movie before." As many will recall, when Brudnoy was let go that didn't last very long. When others were let go, they were also back on the air in no time. -----Original Message----- From: Gary's Ice Cream To: 'Ron Bello' ; 'Rob Landry' <011010001@interpring.com> Cc: 'Boston Radio Group' Sent: Fri, Nov 3, 2017 2:38 pm Subject: RE: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart I suspect that Dan Rea and the overnight live programming will be gone from WBZ shortly after the takeover. Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA www.garysicecream.com www.icecreamcollege.com -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Ron Bello Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 11:24 AM To: Rob Landry Cc: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Sean Smyth wrote: > > Any chance iHeart would make WBZ all-talk and move news to 680? >> > > They would be well advised to pay heed to a sign that legend says is > posted deep inside the offices of Frito-Lay Corporation. The sign reads: > "don't f--- with Fritos." > > WBZ is the most lucrative AM station in Boston. They'd be crazy to > mess with it. > > Moreover, they'll recall what happened when they moved Rush Limbaugh > to > 1200 in their ill-fated attempt to go after WRKO with their own > conservative talk format, "Rush Radio". The listeners stayed with WRKO. > > I imagine they'll put Rush back on 680 now. > ?If they want to do All News, keep it on 1030 although the format is expensive to produce and how much news and how many listeners for news after 8-9pm ? ? > > How much longer is Bloomberg going to stay on 1200, now that they have > 1330 and the FM? > ?Coverage of Bloomberg on 1330 and 106.1 x 2 is terrible Impossible to listen in MetroWest area? or south of Brockton > > From adamnw@aol.com Sat Nov 4 15:07:54 2017 From: adamnw@aol.com (Adam Wolf) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 15:07:54 -0400 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <91A8BC49-D26A-4215-BDE2-26638363A6F3@aol.com> I think the article in today's globe says it all: they will gut BZ, sadly. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 4, 2017, at 1:14 PM, M.Casey wrote: > > Is there a chance that iHeart might sell WBZ AM, for cash, to another group shortly after the takeover? > Mark Casey > > -----Original Message----- From: Scott Fybush > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 3:38 PM > To: Gary's Ice Cream > Cc: Ron Bello ; Rob Landry ; Boston Radio Group > Subject: RE: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart > > It would be interesting to see the economics of that. I can't imagine that > the total expenses of Dan's show - his salary, producer's salary, whatever > production bits Mike Coleman does - can be more than maybe $150k a year. > Even less for overnights. If they go syndicated at night, they drop those > expenses, but there goes a bunch of local ad revenue and a ton of goodwill, > too. > > OTOH, it's just not the iHeart model of doing talk, outside of maybe KFI > and WLW. > > But then, they'll have 680 and maybe 1200 to clear their own Premiere > stuff. So... who knows? > > On Nov 3, 2017 6:38 PM, "Gary's Ice Cream" wrote: > > I suspect that Dan Rea and the overnight live programming will be gone from > WBZ shortly after the takeover. > > Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA > www.garysicecream.com www.icecreamcollege.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest- > bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Ron Bello > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 11:24 AM > To: Rob Landry > Cc: Boston Radio Group > Subject: Re: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart > >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Sean Smyth wrote: >> >> Any chance iHeart would make WBZ all-talk and move news to 680? >> >> They would be well advised to pay heed to a sign that legend says is >> posted deep inside the offices of Frito-Lay Corporation. The sign reads: >> "don't f--- with Fritos." >> >> WBZ is the most lucrative AM station in Boston. They'd be crazy to >> mess with it. >> >> Moreover, they'll recall what happened when they moved Rush Limbaugh >> to >> 1200 in their ill-fated attempt to go after WRKO with their own >> conservative talk format, "Rush Radio". The listeners stayed with WRKO. >> >> I imagine they'll put Rush back on 680 now. > > ?If they want to do All News, keep it on 1030 although the format is > expensive to produce and how much news and how many listeners for news > after 8-9pm ? > > >> >> How much longer is Bloomberg going to stay on 1200, now that they have >> 1330 and the FM? > > ?Coverage of Bloomberg on 1330 and 106.1 x 2 is terrible Impossible to > listen in MetroWest area? or south of Brockton > > From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Nov 6 01:47:11 2017 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 01:47:11 -0500 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: That doesn't sound like a seamless transition to me. On 11/3/2017 10:52 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > Globe says iHeart wants WBZ employees to re apply for their jobs and they > won't honor two union contracts. Employees, unions are shocked. iHeart > wants a seamless transition... > > https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/11/03/wbz-would-owners-tells-employees-apply-for-their-jobs/Q8ZIoWcVH5bEPSN1Yy1kvM/story.html > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Nov 6 07:47:00 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 07:47:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 4 Nov 2017, Sean Smyth wrote: > You're seeing the end of 1030 as you've known it. That's a near certainty. The synergy with Channel 4, which remains with CBS, is gone, for one thing. Will Eyeheart even keep a newsroom open at WBZ? Eyeheart currently owns WXKS and WKOX; they are adding WRKO and WBZ, giving them four Boston AM's. They also own WXKS-FM, WJMN, and WBWL, to which they are adding WZLX and WKAF, for a total of five FM's. That puts them one station over the limit. Will they sell WKOX? Turn in the license? What on earth are they going to do with all those AM's? There's not enough conservative talk in all of Premiere to fill all that time, nor enouh angry old white guys to support that many stations. Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Nov 6 07:52:55 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 07:52:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 4 Nov 2017, Doug Drown wrote: > I'm baffled as to why the FCC would allow the sale of WBZ (or any station, > for that matter) to a company teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. It's not being sold; it's being traded. Eyeheart is givig up its Richmond, VA cluster and one other. There are unwelcome tax consequences to a sale, so no one in this deal is selling anything. > That's on top of my bewilderment as to why CBS would want to sell it to > begin with. They've decided to exit the radio business. Rob From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Nov 6 11:18:15 2017 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 11:18:15 -0500 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Richmond and Chattanooga go to Entercom.For example, WRVA in Richmond will be Entercom (also has had a bad rep--remember them gutting the RKO news dept...) which means ex RKO talk host Jeff Katz..if he remains... works for ETM again. Tom Taylor's newsletter says WBZ, WZLX etc could be in iHeart's control via LMA as early as Nov. 17 On Nov 6, 2017 7:53 AM, "Rob Landry" <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, 4 Nov 2017, Doug Drown wrote: > > I'm baffled as to why the FCC would allow the sale of WBZ (or any station, >> for that matter) to a company teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. >> > > It's not being sold; it's being traded. Eyeheart is givig up its Richmond, > VA cluster and one other. > > There are unwelcome tax consequences to a sale, so no one in this deal is > selling anything. > > That's on top of my bewilderment as to why CBS would want to sell it to >> begin with. >> > > They've decided to exit the radio business. > > > Rob > From rbello@belloassoc.com Mon Nov 6 09:30:07 2017 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 09:30:07 -0500 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: Has been reported that iHeart has filed to place WKOX in trust pending a sale --------------------------------------------------- On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 7:47 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, 4 Nov 2017, Sean Smyth wrote: > > You're seeing the end of 1030 as you've known it. >> > > That's a near certainty. The synergy with Channel 4, which remains with > CBS, is gone, for one thing. Will Eyeheart even keep a newsroom open at WBZ? > > Eyeheart currently owns WXKS and WKOX; they are adding WRKO and WBZ, > giving them four Boston AM's. > > They also own WXKS-FM, WJMN, and WBWL, to which they are adding WZLX and > WKAF, for a total of five FM's. > > That puts them one station over the limit. Will they sell WKOX? Turn in > the license? > > What on earth are they going to do with all those AM's? There's not enough > conservative talk in all of Premiere to fill all that time, nor enouh angry > old white guys to support that many stations. > > > Rob > From billohno@gmail.com Mon Nov 6 14:27:45 2017 From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 14:27:45 -0500 Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: It?s hard to find a good seamstress these days. And there?s none for miles for this deal. Bill O?Neill > On Nov 6, 2017, at 1:47 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > > That doesn't sound like a seamless transition to me. > >> On 11/3/2017 10:52 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: >> Globe says iHeart wants WBZ employees to re apply for their jobs and they >> won't honor two union contracts. Employees, unions are shocked. iHeart >> wants a seamless transition... >> >> https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/11/03/wbz-would-owners-tells-employees-apply-for-their-jobs/Q8ZIoWcVH5bEPSN1Yy1kvM/story.html >> > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Nov 9 08:15:21 2017 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 08:15:21 -0500 Subject: IHeart agrees to recognize union, offer WBZ jobs Message-ID: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/joe_battenfeld/2017/11/battenfeld_iheart_agrees_to_recognize_bz_union_offer_jobs_to?amp The radio conglomerate set to buy local news powerhouse WBZ-AM has agreed to recognize the station?s union and offer jobs to all of its employees, averting a nasty fight that threatened to derail the sale, the Herald has learned. IHeartMedia?s agreement with the union is a major concession from its initial threats to refuse to honor union contracts and force staffers to reapply for their jobs. The radio company and union reached an interim agreement last night setting out terms of the new deal, sources said. From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Thu Nov 9 11:56:11 2017 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 16:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Entercom-CBS-Beasley-iHeart In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <1779571264.5193202.1510246571973@mail.yahoo.com> >adamnw wrote: >If they get rid of Dan Rea and overnight programming, I am sure many of people >say "we've seen this movie >before." As many will recall, when Brudnoy was let >go that didn't last very long.?? ???? You're confusing Westinghouse/CBS with iHeart. As their opening machine-gun blast against the individual employees and the union should tell us, iHeart is a whole different animal. And don't think this little settlement at the moment means there is not a near certainty of very ugly goings-on that won't be overturned by any public-pressure campaigns. It's very unfortunate that there could not have been a local buyer for WBZ (AM), along the lines of local buyers who now have the potential to preserve as quality news outlets such newspapers as the Boston Globe, the Washington Post and the Philadelphia Inquirer. ?? Meanwhile, iHeart?just reported a $248 million third-quarter loss, with a 2 percent drop in revenue, although its radio operations?revenue was up 0.3 percent. It has $21 billion in debt that has started speculation about possible bankruptcy as soon as next year, as reported at http://www.radioworld.com/news-and-business/0002/iheartmedia-posts-another-quarterly-loss/340723 From 011010001@interpring.com Thu Nov 9 13:37:17 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 13:37:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Nov 2017, Martin Waters via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: > adamnw wrote: > If they get rid of Dan Rea and overnight programming, I am sure many of > people >say "we've seen this movie >before." As many will recall, when > Brudnoy was let >go that didn't last very long.?? ???? You're confusing > Westinghouse/CBS with iHeart. As their opening machine-gun blast against > the individual employees and the union should tell us, iHeart is a whole > different animal. And don't think this little settlement at the moment > means there is not a near certainty of very ugly goings-on that won't be > overturned by any public-pressure campaigns. It's very unfortunate that > there could not have been a local buyer for WBZ (AM), along the lines of > local buyers who now have the potential to preserve as quality news > outlets such newspapers as the Boston Globe, the Washington Post and the > Philadelphia Inquirer. There could not have been a local buyer in this case, because CBS and Entercom didn't want to pay the tax pemalty the sale of any station would have incurred. The deal was done as a swap: WBZ, WRKO, WKAF, and WZLX to Eyeheart in exhange for all the Eyeheart stations in Richmond and Chattanooga. Rob From bob.bosra@demattia.net Thu Nov 9 14:42:20 2017 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 14:42:20 -0500 Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: I get the CBS-Entercom / iHeart swaps - but what is the point of the Beasley/iHeart swap. Both companies end up with the same number of Boston FMs, though iHeart gets $12M in cash. Is the cash the only motivation? 'MJX and BZ-FM have similar coverage areas, and MJX still beats BZFM in the ratings, even during Patriot's season. So what makes BZFM worth $12M more? -Bob From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Nov 9 23:45:40 2017 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 23:45:40 -0500 Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <7ec3ac05-91e8-62ad-c38e-231cb02996d8@attorneyross.com> There's a tax penalty for selling a station? On 11/9/2017 1:37 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > There could not have been a local buyer in this case, because CBS and > Entercom didn't want to pay the tax pemalty the sale of any station > would have incurred. The deal was done as a swap: WBZ, WRKO, WKAF, and > WZLX to Eyeheart in exhange for all the Eyeheart stations in Richmond > and Chattanooga. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From richard@chonak.com Fri Nov 10 00:30:43 2017 From: richard@chonak.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 00:30:43 -0500 Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: <7ec3ac05-91e8-62ad-c38e-231cb02996d8@attorneyross.com> References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> <7ec3ac05-91e8-62ad-c38e-231cb02996d8@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Perhaps the writer was thinking of the tax on the capital gain resulting from a sale. --RC On 11/09/2017 11:45 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > There's a tax penalty for selling a station? > > On 11/9/2017 1:37 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > >> There could not have been a local buyer in this case, because CBS and >> Entercom didn't want to pay the tax pemalty the sale of any station >> would have incurred. The deal was done as a swap: WBZ, WRKO, WKAF, >> and WZLX to Eyeheart in exhange for all the Eyeheart stations in >> Richmond and Chattanooga. > From rbello@belloassoc.com Fri Nov 10 00:22:50 2017 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 00:22:50 -0500 Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: <7ec3ac05-91e8-62ad-c38e-231cb02996d8@attorneyross.com> References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> <7ec3ac05-91e8-62ad-c38e-231cb02996d8@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Capital gains tax --------------------------------------------------- On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:45 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > There's a tax penalty for selling a station? > > On 11/9/2017 1:37 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > > There could not have been a local buyer in this case, because CBS and >> Entercom didn't want to pay the tax pemalty the sale of any station would >> have incurred. The deal was done as a swap: WBZ, WRKO, WKAF, and WZLX to >> Eyeheart in exhange for all the Eyeheart stations in Richmond and >> Chattanooga. >> > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA > > 02459 > 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Nov 10 01:12:29 2017 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 01:12:29 -0500 Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> <7ec3ac05-91e8-62ad-c38e-231cb02996d8@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Oh. On 11/10/2017 12:30 AM, Richard Chonak wrote: > Perhaps the writer was thinking of the tax on the capital gain > resulting from a sale. > > --RC > > > > On 11/09/2017 11:45 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: >> There's a tax penalty for selling a station? >> >> On 11/9/2017 1:37 PM, Rob Landry wrote: >> >>> There could not have been a local buyer in this case, because CBS >>> and Entercom didn't want to pay the tax pemalty the sale of any >>> station would have incurred. The deal was done as a swap: WBZ, WRKO, >>> WKAF, and WZLX to Eyeheart in exhange for all the Eyeheart stations >>> in Richmond and Chattanooga. >> > > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From bob.bosra@demattia.net Fri Nov 10 11:18:24 2017 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:18:24 -0500 Subject: MJX - BZFM swap Message-ID: Let's see if I can rouse the speculators by reposting as a new thread... I get the CBS-Entercom / iHeart swaps - but what is the point of the Beasley/iHeart swap. Both companies end up with the same number of Boston FMs, though iHeart gets $12M in cash. Is the cash the only motivation? 'MJX and BZ-FM have similar coverage areas, and MJX still beats BZFM in the ratings, even during Patriot's season. So what makes BZFM worth $12M more? -Bob From keithlavon@gmail.com Fri Nov 10 13:43:58 2017 From: keithlavon@gmail.com (Keith Lavon) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 13:43:58 -0500 Subject: MJX - BZFM swap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just one point of clarification - it's Entercom getting the cash not iHeart. iHeart is not involved in the BZ-FM/MJX transaction. On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Bob DeMattia wrote: > Let's see if I can rouse the speculators by reposting as a new thread... > > > I get the CBS-Entercom / iHeart swaps - but what is the point of the > Beasley/iHeart swap. > Both companies end up with the same number of Boston FMs, though iHeart > gets $12M in cash. > Is the cash the only motivation? 'MJX and BZ-FM have similar coverage > areas, and MJX > still beats BZFM in the ratings, even during Patriot's season. So what > makes BZFM worth $12M > more? > > > > -Bob > From scott@fybush.com Fri Nov 10 17:11:10 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 17:11:10 -0500 Subject: MJX - BZFM swap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: iHeart couldn't take BZ-FM and stay under the ownership or revenue caps, so it had to go in a separate deal. Beasley wanted it badly (and why not - it brings in a male demo they're lacking), but that meant something had to go to keep Beasley at 5 FMs. I am hearing Entercom drove a hard deal... they knew MJX was the prize from the Beasley cluster and insisted that be the other end of the trade. Or so the rumor mill says... On Nov 10, 2017 1:17 PM, "Bob DeMattia" wrote: > Let's see if I can rouse the speculators by reposting as a new thread... > > > I get the CBS-Entercom / iHeart swaps - but what is the point of the > Beasley/iHeart swap. > Both companies end up with the same number of Boston FMs, though iHeart > gets $12M in cash. > Is the cash the only motivation? 'MJX and BZ-FM have similar coverage > areas, and MJX > still beats BZFM in the ratings, even during Patriot's season. So what > makes BZFM worth $12M > more? > > > > -Bob > From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Nov 13 07:08:06 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:08:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: MJX - BZFM swap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Nov 2017, Keith Lavon wrote: > Just one point of clarification - it's Entercom getting the cash not > iHeart. iHeart is not involved in the BZ-FM/MJX transaction. Ah. Then the answer is probably that Entercom fears that having both all-sports stations under the sam roof might cause problems with the Department of Justice. Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Nov 13 06:52:56 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 06:52:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: <7ec3ac05-91e8-62ad-c38e-231cb02996d8@attorneyross.com> References: <089e01d354ce$61990210$24cb0630$@garysicecream.com> <7ec3ac05-91e8-62ad-c38e-231cb02996d8@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Nov 2017, A Joseph Ross wrote: > There's a tax penalty for selling a station? Selling anything for more than you bought it generally triggrs a capital gains tax. Th Entercom/CBS deal is complicated enough that only a legion of CPA's can answer your question properly. But the fact that they are swapping rather than selling suggests they are looking to minimize their tax liability. Rob From scott@fybush.com Mon Nov 13 07:18:24 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:18:24 -0500 Subject: MJX - BZFM swap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think it's been a given from the start of this process that DOJ was never going to allow both sports stations to stay under one roof. WBZ-FM was on the "sell" list almost immediately. The swap with Beasley turned out to be a clever way for Entercom to still add another big FM to what it was allowed to keep in the market. On Nov 13, 2017 7:09 AM, "Rob Landry" <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 10 Nov 2017, Keith Lavon wrote: > > Just one point of clarification - it's Entercom getting the cash not >> iHeart. iHeart is not involved in the BZ-FM/MJX transaction. >> > > Ah. Then the answer is probably that Entercom fears that having both > all-sports stations under the sam roof might cause problems with the > Department of Justice. > > > Rob > From billohno@gmail.com Mon Nov 13 08:28:20 2017 From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 08:28:20 -0500 Subject: iHeart Financial Woes & CBS Deal Message-ID: <036A21B0-6C93-4407-8529-3E01B6562F52@gmail.com> Could somebody please speak very slowly and explain how a beleaguered company like iHeart could even be under consideration to enter into the CBS deal in the first place? This elephant in the room is taking up way too much space. Bill O?Neill From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Nov 13 10:24:50 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:24:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: iHeart Financial Woes & CBS Deal In-Reply-To: <036A21B0-6C93-4407-8529-3E01B6562F52@gmail.com> References: <036A21B0-6C93-4407-8529-3E01B6562F52@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, billohno@gmail.com wrote: > Could somebody please speak very slowly and explain how a beleaguered > company like iHeart could even be under consideration to enter into the > CBS deal in the first place? This elephant in the room is taking up way > too much space. Eyeheart has no money, but they have several hundred stations. They traded all their Chattanooga and Richmond stations to Entercom for seven stations in Boston and Seattle. Rob From billohno@gmail.com Mon Nov 13 13:01:06 2017 From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:01:06 -0500 Subject: iHeart Financial Woes & CBS Deal In-Reply-To: References: <036A21B0-6C93-4407-8529-3E01B6562F52@gmail.com> Message-ID: > On Nov 13, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, billohno@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Could somebody please speak very slowly and explain how a beleaguered company like iHeart could even be under consideration to enter into the CBS deal in the first place? This elephant in the room is taking up way too much space. > > Eyeheart has no money, but they have several hundred stations. They traded all their Chattanooga and Richmond stations to Entercom for seven stations in Boston and Seattle. > > > Rob Thank you. From ashboy1951@gmail.com Wed Nov 15 22:50:48 2017 From: ashboy1951@gmail.com (Doug Drown) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:50:48 -0500 Subject: Bernard Waterman dies, former owner of WAAB/WAAF Message-ID: Longtime broadcasting entrepreneur Bernard Waterman has died in Fort Myers, Florida, at the age of 96. Waterman and his wife Edith were the owners of WAAB and WAAB-FM (later WAAF) in Worcester for many years between the late '50s and late '60s. He helped shape both stations into the rock music powerhouses they became. In 1965 they purchased KTSA in San Antonio and from there ventured into television, coming to own NBC affiliates in Fort Myers, Florida and Charlottesville, Virginia. As of 2014, they were not retired and were still working full-time. They were married for over 70 years. Bud Sawyer, formerly of WAAB and later WGAN in Portland, said to me once that Waterman was a consummate broadcasting professional, running WAAB like one would operate a major market network O&O. http://www.adweek.com/tvspy/founder-of-waterman-broadcasting-dies/196706 From marklaurence@mac.com Sun Nov 19 12:05:00 2017 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 12:05:00 -0500 Subject: December 3 TV rescan Message-ID: I came across a message on WFXZ channel 24 telling viewers they?d have to rescan their TVs on December 3 if they want to continue to watch the over-the-air broadcast. Any idea what is happening then? Sent from my iPhone From aerie.ma@comcast.net Sun Nov 19 14:47:05 2017 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 14:47:05 -0500 Subject: December 3 TV rescan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b601d3616f$2f170be0$8d4523a0$@comcast.net> The Wikipedia entry for WFXZ says that they sold their spectrum for $63 million, reached a channel-sharing arrangement with WGBH, and donated the license for WFXZ to WGBH. I didn't realize that a Class A station could be worth $63 million, or that a commercial station could lease a sub-channel of a non-commercial station, and why would WGBH want the license to a former commercial station (tax write-off for the donation?) -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Laurence Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 12:05 PM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: December 3 TV rescan I came across a message on WFXZ channel 24 telling viewers they?d have to rescan their TVs on December 3 if they want to continue to watch the over-the-air broadcast. Any idea what is happening then? Sent from my iPhone From scott@fybush.com Sun Nov 19 16:01:39 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 16:01:39 -0500 Subject: December 3 TV rescan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0c4c5b4a-b04e-ac60-fe3d-fc31c487c75d@fybush.com> If only there were someone keeping track of all of these things and writing them up in (somewhat) concise fashion every week... Here's what I wrote about this particular situation in the October 2 NERW: "But those are all shares of commercial stations with other commercial stations, and the FCC is allowing some much stranger bedfellows, allowing noncommercial stations to yield up some of their bandwidth to provide bits that commercial TV stations can use (and pay for!) to stay on the air. We?d initially thought that was all that was happening to WFXZ-CD (Channel 24), the Azteca America outlet that?s been running a 15 kW directional signal from the FM128 master tower site on Chestnut Street in Newton. The Rodriguez family collected a whopping $64 million in auction proceeds to give up RF 24. How much were they going to pay to have the WFXZ-CD signal hosted on some of the spectrum of WGBH (Channel 2), after the market?s senior public TV station completed its own move from RF 19 down to the wastelands of low-VHF on RF 5? As it turns out: WFXZ is paying nothing for its new home. That?s because, according to the channel-share plan recently filed with the FCC, the WFXZ-CD license is being donated to the WGBH Educational Foundation. WGBH is already in line for $162 million in auction proceeds for its move to low-VHF. It was also keeping a UHF signal via WGBX channel 44, which moves from RF 43 to 32 in the repack. And now, WGBH will end up with a third license in the market in the form of WFXZ. As a class A low-power station, the WFXZ license doesn?t come with any must-carry rights for cable or satellite, but it does at least come with that ?commercial? designation, which means that WGBH could find a commercial tenant to lease out WFXZ?s portion of the new RF 5 signal for whatever viewers in the market can see it on low-VHF. (Or even use a for-profit subsidiary to operate WFXZ commercially itself; that?s something WGBH has done in the past with other non-broadcast ventures.) WGBH isn?t alone in this deal ? in Miami, public broadcaster WPBT is also getting a low-power commercial station via donation, which will give it the ability to use some of its repacked UHF spectrum commercially if it so chooses. However this plays out, it will be part of a bigger set of changes at WGBH. As one of the industry?s innovation hubs, it?s a near-certainty that WGBH will use one of its signals in the short term as a market test bed for the new ATSC 3.0 broadcast standard. We?d expect that RF 5 will be used for that purpose, which probably means a swap at some point amidst the repack to put the familiar WGBH calls on what?s now the WGBX UHF license, which will likely be the new home for WGBH?s main 2.1 channel. (Confused yet?)" On 11/19/2017 12:05 PM, Mark Laurence wrote: > I came across a message on WFXZ channel 24 telling viewers they?d have to rescan their TVs on December 3 if they want to continue to watch the over-the-air broadcast. Any idea what is happening then? > > Sent from my iPhone > From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Nov 20 00:56:49 2017 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 00:56:49 -0500 Subject: December 3 TV rescan In-Reply-To: <0c4c5b4a-b04e-ac60-fe3d-fc31c487c75d@fybush.com> References: <0c4c5b4a-b04e-ac60-fe3d-fc31c487c75d@fybush.com> Message-ID: <71246d67-f3e9-b04d-d202-9d802f4f0e9d@attorneyross.com> I'm plenty confused, but maybe there's one thing you can clear up easily:? What does the CD stand for in WFXZ-CD? On 11/19/2017 4:01 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > If only there were someone keeping track of all of these things and > writing them up in (somewhat) concise fashion every week... > > Here's what I wrote about this particular situation in the October 2 > NERW: > > "But those are all shares of commercial stations with other commercial > stations, and the FCC is allowing some much stranger bedfellows, > allowing noncommercial stations to yield up some of their bandwidth to > provide bits that commercial TV stations can use (and pay for!) to > stay on the air. > > We?d initially thought that was all that was happening to WFXZ-CD > (Channel 24), the Azteca America outlet that?s been running a 15 kW > directional signal from the FM128 master tower site on Chestnut Street > in Newton. The Rodriguez family collected a whopping $64 million in > auction proceeds to give up RF 24. How much were they going to pay to > have the WFXZ-CD signal hosted on some of the spectrum of WGBH > (Channel 2), after the market?s senior public TV station completed its > own move from RF 19 down to the wastelands of low-VHF on RF 5? > > As it turns out: WFXZ is paying nothing for its new home. That?s > because, according to the channel-share plan recently filed with the > FCC, the WFXZ-CD license is being donated to the WGBH Educational > Foundation. WGBH is already in line for $162 million in auction > proceeds for its move to low-VHF. It was also keeping a UHF signal via > WGBX channel 44, which moves from RF 43 to 32 in the repack. And now, > WGBH will end up with a third license in the market in the form of > WFXZ. As a class A low-power station, the WFXZ license doesn?t come > with any must-carry rights for cable or satellite, but it does at > least come with that ?commercial? designation, which means that WGBH > could find a commercial tenant to lease out WFXZ?s portion of the new > RF 5 signal for whatever viewers in the market can see it on low-VHF. > (Or even use a for-profit subsidiary to operate WFXZ commercially > itself; that?s something WGBH has done in the past with other > non-broadcast ventures.) > > WGBH isn?t alone in this deal ? in Miami, public broadcaster WPBT is > also getting a low-power commercial station via donation, which will > give it the ability to use some of its repacked UHF spectrum > commercially if it so chooses. > > However this plays out, it will be part of a bigger set of changes at > WGBH. As one of the industry?s innovation hubs, it?s a near-certainty > that WGBH will use one of its signals in the short term as a market > test bed for the new ATSC 3.0 broadcast standard. We?d expect that RF > 5 will be used for that purpose, which probably means a swap at some > point amidst the repack to put the familiar WGBH calls on what?s now > the WGBX UHF license, which will likely be the new home for WGBH?s > main 2.1 channel. (Confused yet?)" > > On 11/19/2017 12:05 PM, Mark Laurence wrote: >> I came across a message on WFXZ channel 24 telling viewers they?d >> have to rescan their TVs on December 3 if they want to continue to >> watch the over-the-air broadcast. Any idea what is happening then? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Nov 20 08:01:18 2017 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 08:01:18 -0500 Subject: December 3 TV rescan In-Reply-To: <71246d67-f3e9-b04d-d202-9d802f4f0e9d@attorneyross.com> References: <0c4c5b4a-b04e-ac60-fe3d-fc31c487c75d@fybush.com> <71246d67-f3e9-b04d-d202-9d802f4f0e9d@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Wikipedia: "The *class A television service* is a system for regulating some low-power television (LPTV ) stations in the United States. Class A stations are denoted by the broadcast callsign suffix "-CA" (analog) or "-CD" (digital), although very many analog -CA stations have a digital companion channel that was assigned the -LD suffix used by regular (non-class-A) digital LPTV stations." On Monday, November 20, 2017, A Joseph Ross wrote: > I'm plenty confused, but maybe there's one thing you can clear up easily: > What does the CD stand for in WFXZ-CD? > > On 11/19/2017 4:01 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > >> If only there were someone keeping track of all of these things and >> writing them up in (somewhat) concise fashion every week... >> >> Here's what I wrote about this particular situation in the October 2 NERW: >> >> "But those are all shares of commercial stations with other commercial >> stations, and the FCC is allowing some much stranger bedfellows, allowing >> noncommercial stations to yield up some of their bandwidth to provide bits >> that commercial TV stations can use (and pay for!) to stay on the air. >> >> We?d initially thought that was all that was happening to WFXZ-CD >> (Channel 24), the Azteca America outlet that?s been running a 15 kW >> directional signal from the FM128 master tower site on Chestnut Street in >> Newton. The Rodriguez family collected a whopping $64 million in auction >> proceeds to give up RF 24. How much were they going to pay to have the >> WFXZ-CD signal hosted on some of the spectrum of WGBH (Channel 2), after >> the market?s senior public TV station completed its own move from RF 19 >> down to the wastelands of low-VHF on RF 5? >> >> As it turns out: WFXZ is paying nothing for its new home. That?s because, >> according to the channel-share plan recently filed with the FCC, the >> WFXZ-CD license is being donated to the WGBH Educational Foundation. WGBH >> is already in line for $162 million in auction proceeds for its move to >> low-VHF. It was also keeping a UHF signal via WGBX channel 44, which moves >> from RF 43 to 32 in the repack. And now, WGBH will end up with a third >> license in the market in the form of WFXZ. As a class A low-power station, >> the WFXZ license doesn?t come with any must-carry rights for cable or >> satellite, but it does at least come with that ?commercial? designation, >> which means that WGBH could find a commercial tenant to lease out WFXZ?s >> portion of the new RF 5 signal for whatever viewers in the market can see >> it on low-VHF. (Or even use a for-profit subsidiary to operate WFXZ >> commercially itself; that?s something WGBH has done in the past with other >> non-broadcast ventures.) >> >> WGBH isn?t alone in this deal ? in Miami, public broadcaster WPBT is also >> getting a low-power commercial station via donation, which will give it the >> ability to use some of its repacked UHF spectrum commercially if it so >> chooses. >> >> However this plays out, it will be part of a bigger set of changes at >> WGBH. As one of the industry?s innovation hubs, it?s a near-certainty that >> WGBH will use one of its signals in the short term as a market test bed for >> the new ATSC 3.0 broadcast standard. We?d expect that RF 5 will be used for >> that purpose, which probably means a swap at some point amidst the repack >> to put the familiar WGBH calls on what?s now the WGBX UHF license, which >> will likely be the new home for WGBH?s main 2.1 channel. (Confused yet?)" >> >> On 11/19/2017 12:05 PM, Mark Laurence wrote: >> >>> I came across a message on WFXZ channel 24 telling viewers they?d have >>> to rescan their TVs on December 3 if they want to continue to watch the >>> over-the-air broadcast. Any idea what is happening then? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >> > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > From scott@fybush.com Mon Nov 20 07:29:01 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 07:29:01 -0500 Subject: December 3 TV rescan In-Reply-To: <71246d67-f3e9-b04d-d202-9d802f4f0e9d@attorneyross.com> References: <0c4c5b4a-b04e-ac60-fe3d-fc31c487c75d@fybush.com> <71246d67-f3e9-b04d-d202-9d802f4f0e9d@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: That's easy... the "-CD" is a class A low-power license that converted to digital. The idea behind the class A LPTVs was that they'd do a certain amount of local program origination, and in exchange would enjoy protected status... in particular, the right to retain spectrum during the DTV conversion and repack. I don't see much local on a lot of these -CD stations, but some have made very good money for their owners by putting their spectrum in the auction last year. (And then a bit more, in the case of WFXZ, by taking the tax writeoff from the subsequent donation of the resulting zombie license) On Nov 20, 2017 1:29 AM, "A Joseph Ross" wrote: > I'm plenty confused, but maybe there's one thing you can clear up easily: > What does the CD stand for in WFXZ-CD? > > On 11/19/2017 4:01 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > >> If only there were someone keeping track of all of these things and >> writing them up in (somewhat) concise fashion every week... >> >> Here's what I wrote about this particular situation in the October 2 NERW: >> >> "But those are all shares of commercial stations with other commercial >> stations, and the FCC is allowing some much stranger bedfellows, allowing >> noncommercial stations to yield up some of their bandwidth to provide bits >> that commercial TV stations can use (and pay for!) to stay on the air. >> >> We?d initially thought that was all that was happening to WFXZ-CD >> (Channel 24), the Azteca America outlet that?s been running a 15 kW >> directional signal from the FM128 master tower site on Chestnut Street in >> Newton. The Rodriguez family collected a whopping $64 million in auction >> proceeds to give up RF 24. How much were they going to pay to have the >> WFXZ-CD signal hosted on some of the spectrum of WGBH (Channel 2), after >> the market?s senior public TV station completed its own move from RF 19 >> down to the wastelands of low-VHF on RF 5? >> >> As it turns out: WFXZ is paying nothing for its new home. That?s because, >> according to the channel-share plan recently filed with the FCC, the >> WFXZ-CD license is being donated to the WGBH Educational Foundation. WGBH >> is already in line for $162 million in auction proceeds for its move to >> low-VHF. It was also keeping a UHF signal via WGBX channel 44, which moves >> from RF 43 to 32 in the repack. And now, WGBH will end up with a third >> license in the market in the form of WFXZ. As a class A low-power station, >> the WFXZ license doesn?t come with any must-carry rights for cable or >> satellite, but it does at least come with that ?commercial? designation, >> which means that WGBH could find a commercial tenant to lease out WFXZ?s >> portion of the new RF 5 signal for whatever viewers in the market can see >> it on low-VHF. (Or even use a for-profit subsidiary to operate WFXZ >> commercially itself; that?s something WGBH has done in the past with other >> non-broadcast ventures.) >> >> WGBH isn?t alone in this deal ? in Miami, public broadcaster WPBT is also >> getting a low-power commercial station via donation, which will give it the >> ability to use some of its repacked UHF spectrum commercially if it so >> chooses. >> >> However this plays out, it will be part of a bigger set of changes at >> WGBH. As one of the industry?s innovation hubs, it?s a near-certainty that >> WGBH will use one of its signals in the short term as a market test bed for >> the new ATSC 3.0 broadcast standard. We?d expect that RF 5 will be used for >> that purpose, which probably means a swap at some point amidst the repack >> to put the familiar WGBH calls on what?s now the WGBX UHF license, which >> will likely be the new home for WGBH?s main 2.1 channel. (Confused yet?)" >> >> On 11/19/2017 12:05 PM, Mark Laurence wrote: >> >>> I came across a message on WFXZ channel 24 telling viewers they?d have >>> to rescan their TVs on December 3 if they want to continue to watch the >>> over-the-air broadcast. Any idea what is happening then? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >> > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com > From richard@chonak.com Tue Nov 21 21:59:51 2017 From: richard@chonak.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 21:59:51 -0500 Subject: WMFP 62 changes Message-ID: <0e71eefd-8523-27a8-2eac-766f1d640104@chonak.com> After reading on BRI about the WFXZ-WGBH deal, I came across another station's recent changes in the wake of the frequency auction. WMFP 62 Lawrence has sold its frequency for $93.6M, is entering a channel-sharing agreement with WWDP Norwell, and is changing its COL to Foxborough. I wonder whether they will continue carrying the NBC Boston (WBTS-LD) relay (60.5) from WWDP's West Bridgewater transmitter site. Info on the sale: https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2017/04/13/here-are-local-stations-selling-their-broadcast-frequencies/B7UAD0FrTids6Ws4UPSWvK/story.html COL change: https://enterpriseefiling.fcc.gov/dataentry/public/tv/draftCopy.html?displayType=html&appKey=25076ff35e13fe99015e2ec691fe1097&id=25076ff35e13fe99015e2ec691fe1097&goBack=N --RC From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Nov 21 22:45:54 2017 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 22:45:54 -0500 Subject: WMFP 62 changes In-Reply-To: <0e71eefd-8523-27a8-2eac-766f1d640104@chonak.com> References: <0e71eefd-8523-27a8-2eac-766f1d640104@chonak.com> Message-ID: Scott explained where NBC will wind up a month ago. This will make your head spin https://www.fybush.com/nerw-20171023/ On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Richard Chonak wrote: > After reading on BRI about the WFXZ-WGBH deal, I came across another > station's recent changes in the wake of the frequency auction. > > WMFP 62 Lawrence has sold its frequency for $93.6M, is entering a > channel-sharing agreement with WWDP Norwell, and is changing its COL to > Foxborough. > > I wonder whether they will continue carrying the NBC Boston (WBTS-LD) > relay (60.5) from WWDP's West Bridgewater transmitter site. > > Info on the sale: > https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2017/04/13/here-are-loc > al-stations-selling-their-broadcast-frequencies/B7UAD0FrTids > 6Ws4UPSWvK/story.html > > COL change: > https://enterpriseefiling.fcc.gov/dataentry/public/tv/draftC > opy.html?displayType=html&appKey=25076ff35e13fe99015e2ec > 691fe1097&id=25076ff35e13fe99015e2ec691fe1097&goBack=N > > --RC > > From Kaimbridge@Gmail.com Wed Nov 22 14:24:46 2017 From: Kaimbridge@Gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 19:24:46 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: December 3 TV rescan Message-ID: <1703f53e-477d-155e-e427-38ac2cb4ce7a@Gmail.com> >> On 11/19/2017 12:05 PM, Mark Laurence wrote: >> >> I came across a message on WFXZ channel 24 telling viewers they?d have >> to rescan their TVs on December 3 if they want to continue to watch the >> over-the-air broadcast. Any idea what is happening then? Scott Fybush replied: > We?d initially thought that was all that was happening to WFXZ-CD > (Channel 24), the Azteca America outlet that?s been running a 15 kW > directional signal from the FM128 master tower site on Chestnut Street > in Newton. The Rodriguez family collected a whopping $64 million in > auction proceeds to give up RF 24. How much were they going to pay to > have the WFXZ-CD signal hosted on some of the spectrum of WGBH (Channel > 2), after the market?s senior public TV station completed its own move > from RF 19 down to the wastelands of low-VHF on RF 5? So what, WGBH:02 is all ready to change from RF-19 to RF-5? I thought it was still going to be a few more months before stations could start moving around? Or is WGBH:02 staying on RF-19 for now and WFXZ-CD is going to be the RF-05 guinea pig for reception testing, etc.? ~Kaimbridge~ -- -- -- Wiki?Sites Contribution History Pages: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge math.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge wiki.gis.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge rosettacode.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From Kaimbridge@Gmail.com Wed Nov 22 14:25:25 2017 From: Kaimbridge@Gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 19:25:25 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: WMFP 62 changes Message-ID: <91abbfd5-6026-167d-2392-39214a9bfe12@Gmail.com> Kevin Vahey wrote, > Scott explained where NBC will wind up a month ago. This will make > your head spin > > https://www.fybush.com/nerw-20171023/ From this issue, ?NBC Boston? (?NBCBos?) channelling is dissected: WNEU:60 RF-34?29 WBTS-LD:8 RF-46??? WYCN-CD:13 RF-36 [?WYCN-CD:???]?43 (= WGBX) WMFP:62 RF-18 [?WMFP:60.5?]?10 [XXXX] WGBX:44 RF-43 [XXXX]?32 [?WYCN-CD:13? or maybe ?WBTS-LD:8?] So, ?NBC Boston? will likely be either NBCBos:13 or?if they ditch WYCN-CD and transplant WBTS-LD to RF-43?NBCBos:8? But how? They can?t be ?WMFP:8? now because of potential signal overlap with WMTW:8 up in Portland. So what about WGME:13 or (still) WMTW:8? Are the overlap rules changing, too? ~Kaimbridge~ -- -- -- Wiki?Sites Contribution History Pages: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge math.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge wiki.gis.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge rosettacode.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Nov 22 16:34:57 2017 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:34:57 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM Message-ID: https://twitter.com/bostonradio/status/933436466285432832 This news does not bode well for the future of 1030. Brutal From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Nov 22 17:42:23 2017 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 17:42:23 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84a331c3-4f4b-959b-168a-25f3639e5618@donnahalper.com> On 11/22/2017 4:34 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > https://twitter.com/bostonradio/status/933436466285432832 > > This news does not bode well for the future of 1030. Yeah, firing someone the day before Thanksgiving when the station has great ratings and is profitable. Stay classy, iHeart. (Wonder who'll be next. I dread to think.) From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Nov 22 17:58:20 2017 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 17:58:20 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b401d363e5$656206a0$302613e0$@garysicecream.com> I predict that Dan Rey and Bradley J (and anyone else that works 6pm-6am) will be gone before long too. Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA www.garysicecream.com www.icecreamcollege.com -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Vahey Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:35 PM To: Boston Radio Group Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM https://twitter.com/bostonradio/status/933436466285432832 This news does not bode well for the future of 1030. Brutal From tlmedia@intrstar.net Wed Nov 22 18:26:20 2017 From: tlmedia@intrstar.net (Ted Larsen) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:26:20 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: <84a331c3-4f4b-959b-168a-25f3639e5618@donnahalper.com> References: <84a331c3-4f4b-959b-168a-25f3639e5618@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <79f5f7b9-ed37-4c97-b6a8-d598e1fb4a06@getmailbird.com> Oh my God. That's horrible! On 11/22/2017 6:23:50 PM, Donna Halper wrote: On 11/22/2017 4:34 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > https://twitter.com/bostonradio/status/933436466285432832 > > This news does not bode well for the future of 1030. Yeah, firing someone the day before Thanksgiving when the station has great ratings and is profitable. Stay classy, iHeart. (Wonder who'll be next. I dread to think.) From scott@fybush.com Wed Nov 22 19:29:43 2017 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 19:29:43 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: December 3 TV rescan In-Reply-To: <1703f53e-477d-155e-e427-38ac2cb4ce7a@Gmail.com> References: <1703f53e-477d-155e-e427-38ac2cb4ce7a@Gmail.com> Message-ID: There's a series of 10 stages over 39 months for the full repack to happen. WGBH isn't slated to move from RF 19 to RF 5 until later in those stages. But... because there's nobody on RF 5, in theory WGBH could move sooner if they wanted to. WFXZ has to tag along... it can't operate separately on 5 while WGBH stays on 19. On Nov 22, 2017 2:58 PM, "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" wrote: > >> On 11/19/2017 12:05 PM, Mark Laurence wrote: > >> > >> I came across a message on WFXZ channel 24 telling viewers they?d have > >> to rescan their TVs on December 3 if they want to continue to watch the > >> over-the-air broadcast. Any idea what is happening then? > > Scott Fybush replied: > > > We?d initially thought that was all that was happening to WFXZ-CD > > (Channel 24), the Azteca America outlet that?s been running a 15 kW > > directional signal from the FM128 master tower site on Chestnut Street > > in Newton. The Rodriguez family collected a whopping $64 million in > > auction proceeds to give up RF 24. How much were they going to pay to > > have the WFXZ-CD signal hosted on some of the spectrum of WGBH (Channel > > 2), after the market?s senior public TV station completed its own move > > from RF 19 down to the wastelands of low-VHF on RF 5? > > So what, WGBH:02 is all ready to change from RF-19 to RF-5? > I thought it was still going to be a few more months before stations > could start moving around? > Or is WGBH:02 staying on RF-19 for now and WFXZ-CD is going to be the > RF-05 guinea pig for reception testing, etc.? > > ~Kaimbridge~ > > -- -- -- > Wiki?Sites Contribution History Pages: > > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge > math.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge > wiki.gis.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge > rosettacode.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge > > ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** > > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Nov 22 18:46:55 2017 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:46:55 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: IShart MEdia will run WBZ 1030 into the ground faster then you can say "mist tunnel in a NYC office".. and theyve already started. Not a damn good thing can come from IHeart's ownership of WBZ On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > https://twitter.com/bostonradio/status/933436466285432832 > > This news does not bode well for the future of 1030. > > Brutal > From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Nov 22 19:54:12 2017 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 19:54:12 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: <00b401d363e5$656206a0$302613e0$@garysicecream.com> References: <00b401d363e5$656206a0$302613e0$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: Peter's memo to staff ?The city has changed. The people have changed. What has never changed is the connection New Englanders have to this blowtorch of a radio station that pumps it out across the six states and beyond. From the two towers on that sleepy little street in Hull to this address where Hall of Famers spend their days cranking out news all day every day. The audience knows that you care about them. They know because when the city is sheltering in place, you do, too. I will cherish the memories of this place, of all of you and those that came before you,? he wrote. ?I will keep those memories with me. I will keep them a part of me even as I walk out the door today on my very last day at WBZ NewsRadio 1030.? http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/names/2017/11/22/longtime-wbz-newsradio-director-sent-packing-new-owner/9gqWZHYldHBXus5OdE2EZK/story.html?s_campaign=bostonglobe:social:googleamp:sharetools On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > I predict that Dan Rey and Bradley J (and anyone else that works 6pm-6am) will be gone before long too. > > Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA > www.garysicecream.com www.icecreamcollege.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Vahey > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:35 PM > To: Boston Radio Group > Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM > > https://twitter.com/bostonradio/status/933436466285432832 > > This news does not bode well for the future of 1030. > > Brutal > > From astelle.donald@gmail.com Thu Nov 23 01:58:28 2017 From: astelle.donald@gmail.com (Don) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 01:58:28 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM References: Message-ID: >>Not a damn good thing can come from IHeart's ownership of WBZ Personally, I think everyone's jumping the gun a bit. Let's see what they have to offer before everyone complains about the end of the world as we know it. iHeart has some large big signal AM's that don't sound "all that bad"... And, personally, Entercom did nothing for WRKO....and basically made it the non-entity that it is today. For the talk station of record in Boston, there is barely anything worht listening to on that station. I am hoping for some new vitality to be brought to WRKO....and we'll see what happens to WBZ. I-heart also now owns WCBS and WINS...we'll see how they deal with legacy stations that they have never had before... Keeping my fingers crossed. D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." Cc: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 6:46 PM Subject: Re: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM > IShart MEdia will run WBZ 1030 into the ground faster then you can say > "mist tunnel in a NYC office".. and theyve already started. Not a damn > good > thing can come from IHeart's ownership of WBZ > > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > >> https://twitter.com/bostonradio/status/933436466285432832 >> >> This news does not bode well for the future of 1030. >> >> Brutal >> From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Nov 23 05:10:00 2017 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 05:10:00 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 1:58 AM, Don wrote: > iHeart has some large big signal AM's that don't sound "all that bad"... > > And, personally, Entercom did nothing for WRKO....and basically made it the > non-entity that it is today. For the talk station of record in Boston, > there is barely anything worht listening to on that station. > > I am hoping for some new vitality to be brought to WRKO....and we'll see > what happens to WBZ. I-heart also now owns WCBS and WINS...we'll see how > they deal with legacy stations that they have never had before... > > Keeping my fingers crossed. > > D Entercom now controls WINS, WCBS, WBBM and the other CBS news outlets, WBZ-AM was the unexpected castoff to iHeart in cluster trading. The late Neil Rodgers who was a talk show legend in South Florida hammered away almost 30 years ago that local radio was doomed to billable hours ( 6 AM - 6 PM ) and he was proven correct. We saw it in Boston where David Brudnoy seethed when preempted by Bruins games but was also aware the Bruins brought in more revenue to the station than he did. Boston was never able to support a true 24/7 all-news format on radio. CBS tried with the old WEEI but relaxed the format at night for billing opportunities. WBZ-AM didn't want to commit to all news 24/7 because of the reach of the station at night. WBZ-AM during the winter months would show up in Chicago an hour before local sundown and be as clear as the local stations. The problem was they could not generate major revenue from the nighttime signal.. CBS in Boston was clueless in how to sell ads to an older demographic ( see WODS 2012 ) and iHeart in Boston has the same problem. The old WXKS-AM at 1430 AM had a sizable audience but the Boston ad team didn't know how to sell it and in 2004 they went to Air America. From gary@garysicecream.com Thu Nov 23 08:03:40 2017 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:03:40 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01a701d3645b$7cad4c90$7607e5b0$@garysicecream.com> Rumor has it they will build "THE Talk Station" around Rush Limbaugh.....uuuugh! Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA www.garysicecream.com www.icecreamcollege.com -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 1:58 AM To: Paul B. Walker, Jr. Cc: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM >>Not a damn good thing can come from IHeart's ownership of WBZ Personally, I think everyone's jumping the gun a bit. Let's see what they have to offer before everyone complains about the end of the world as we know it. iHeart has some large big signal AM's that don't sound "all that bad"... And, personally, Entercom did nothing for WRKO....and basically made it the non-entity that it is today. For the talk station of record in Boston, there is barely anything worht listening to on that station. I am hoping for some new vitality to be brought to WRKO....and we'll see what happens to WBZ. I-heart also now owns WCBS and WINS...we'll see how they deal with legacy stations that they have never had before... Keeping my fingers crossed. D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." Cc: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 6:46 PM Subject: Re: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM > IShart MEdia will run WBZ 1030 into the ground faster then you can say > "mist tunnel in a NYC office".. and theyve already started. Not a damn > good > thing can come from IHeart's ownership of WBZ > > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > >> https://twitter.com/bostonradio/status/933436466285432832 >> >> This news does not bode well for the future of 1030. >> >> Brutal >> From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Nov 23 08:21:35 2017 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:21:35 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: <01a701d3645b$7cad4c90$7607e5b0$@garysicecream.com> References: <01a701d3645b$7cad4c90$7607e5b0$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: They may follow the actions of their other talkers who have a local morning show (maybe) then their syndie product.Some iHeart talkers in New England have Howie Carr's now-syndicated show, then run Hannity on a delay.Cookie cutter web sites and Facebook pages with more regional and national content than local. Local top of hour news, if that, shared with stations in Worcester, Cape Cod, Hartford and so on. Better signal than what they have with 1430.Don't know if they'd go so far as to simulcast RKO on 97.7 or 101.7, as they may keep those music.The iHeart app will continue to be emphasized. Not sure of future of Kuhner or the morning show; maybe Financial Exchange stays. As for Rush at one time his deal was a total of $50 million per year over 8 years.When they renewed it was for an undisclosed, no doubt much lower figure.Don't know how much money Rush and Sean bring in but they do continue. In Pittsburgh they took their conservative talk off 104.7 to go country and found an indie owner to run it on 1320. Here they had to convert 1430 into talk when RKO and the then-on-air WMEX 1510 declined to take Rush, etc Future of Rea, Bradley Jay, Morgan White in doubt at WBZ.Would they move some of them to RKO and put who knows what at night on 1030? On Nov 23, 2017 8:07 AM, "Gary's Ice Cream" wrote: > Rumor has it they will build "THE Talk Station" around Rush > Limbaugh.....uuuugh! > > Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA > www.garysicecream.com www.icecreamcollege.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest- > bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Don > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 1:58 AM > To: Paul B. Walker, Jr. > Cc: Boston Radio Group > Subject: Re: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM > > >>Not a damn good thing can come from IHeart's ownership of WBZ > > Personally, I think everyone's jumping the gun a bit. > > Let's see what they have to offer before everyone complains about the end > of the world as we know it. > > iHeart has some large big signal AM's that don't sound "all that bad"... > > And, personally, Entercom did nothing for WRKO....and basically made it > the non-entity that it is today. For the talk station of record in Boston, > there is barely anything worht listening to on that station. > > I am hoping for some new vitality to be brought to WRKO....and we'll see > what happens to WBZ. I-heart also now owns WCBS and WINS...we'll see how > they deal with legacy stations that they have never had before... > > Keeping my fingers crossed. > > D > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." > Cc: "Boston Radio Group" > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 6:46 PM > Subject: Re: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM > > > > IShart MEdia will run WBZ 1030 into the ground faster then you can say > > "mist tunnel in a NYC office".. and theyve already started. Not a damn > > good > > thing can come from IHeart's ownership of WBZ > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > > >> https://twitter.com/bostonradio/status/933436466285432832 > >> > >> This news does not bode well for the future of 1030. > >> > >> Brutal > >> > > > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Nov 23 12:46:44 2017 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 12:46:44 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: References: <01a701d3645b$7cad4c90$7607e5b0$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <1c5c4c14-0b96-809a-f324-1c821a662e19@donnahalper.com> For what it's worth, I'll be a guest on Morgan White's show tonight at midnight, unless they suddenly decide to cancel me.? I'm not sure we'll discuss Peter (for obvious reasons), plus it's not clear that the average person knows the inner workings of station ownership. So, we'll probably stick to radio history & pop culture, which is what I usually come there to talk about.? (Also don't wanna put Morgan in any jeopardy by discussing something that iHeart's managers might take the wrong way.) From astelle.donald@gmail.com Thu Nov 23 12:02:22 2017 From: astelle.donald@gmail.com (Don) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 12:02:22 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM References: Message-ID: <938A308EA0334AFDB5B16C35144BF55E@ownerd8aa55a4d> >> Boston was never able to support a true 24/7 all-news format on radio. CBS tried with the old WEEI but relaxed the format at night for billing opportunities. WBZ-AM didn't want to commit to all news 24/7 because of the reach of the station at night. << News stations that continue the format into the evening (and overnight) by having an announcer reading headlines all evening and all night usually do piss-poor in the ratings at that hour. I think WBZ-AM didn't want to committ to news 24/7 because it's a crappy idea to be offerring programming that no one wants to hear. Personally, I don't think of news and talk as two absolute distinct formats. There's news...and then there's news analysis (talk)....to me they can be seens as news...just delivered a few different ways. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Don" Cc: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." ; "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 5:10 AM Subject: Re: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 1:58 AM, Don wrote: > >> iHeart has some large big signal AM's that don't sound "all that bad"... >> >> And, personally, Entercom did nothing for WRKO....and basically made it >> the >> non-entity that it is today. For the talk station of record in Boston, >> there is barely anything worht listening to on that station. >> >> I am hoping for some new vitality to be brought to WRKO....and we'll see >> what happens to WBZ. I-heart also now owns WCBS and WINS...we'll see how >> they deal with legacy stations that they have never had before... >> >> Keeping my fingers crossed. >> >> D > > Entercom now controls WINS, WCBS, WBBM and the other CBS news outlets, > WBZ-AM was the unexpected castoff to iHeart in cluster trading. > > The late Neil Rodgers who was a talk show legend in South Florida > hammered away almost 30 years ago that local radio was doomed to > billable hours ( 6 AM - 6 PM ) and he was proven correct. We saw it in > Boston where David Brudnoy seethed when preempted by Bruins games but > was also aware the Bruins brought in more revenue to the station than > he did. > > Boston was never able to support a true 24/7 all-news format on radio. > CBS tried with the old WEEI but relaxed the format at night for > billing opportunities. WBZ-AM didn't want to commit to all news 24/7 > because of the reach of the station at night. WBZ-AM during the winter > months would show up in Chicago an hour before local sundown and be as > clear as the local stations. The problem was they could not generate > major revenue from the nighttime signal.. > > CBS in Boston was clueless in how to sell ads to an older demographic > ( see WODS 2012 ) and iHeart in Boston has the same problem. The old > WXKS-AM at 1430 AM had a sizable audience but the Boston ad team > didn't know how to sell it and in 2004 they went to Air America. From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Nov 23 16:26:57 2017 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 16:26:57 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: <1c5c4c14-0b96-809a-f324-1c821a662e19@donnahalper.com> References: <01a701d3645b$7cad4c90$7607e5b0$@garysicecream.com> <1c5c4c14-0b96-809a-f324-1c821a662e19@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: Professor Was just thinking of you when I was listening to Alice's Restaurant on WZLX. I remember the first time I heard it was when I was at WNEU on a Sunday night and Waxy played it - 50 years ago On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > For what it's worth, I'll be a guest on Morgan White's show tonight at > midnight, unless they suddenly decide to cancel me. I'm not sure we'll > discuss Peter (for obvious reasons), plus it's not clear that the average > person knows the inner workings of station ownership. So, we'll probably > stick to radio history & pop culture, which is what I usually come there to > talk about. (Also don't wanna put Morgan in any jeopardy by discussing > something that iHeart's managers might take the wrong way.) From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Nov 23 19:47:21 2017 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 19:47:21 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: References: <01a701d3645b$7cad4c90$7607e5b0$@garysicecream.com> <1c5c4c14-0b96-809a-f324-1c821a662e19@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <97e85697-d5c6-4847-3422-2c113d4191a5@donnahalper.com> On 11/23/2017 4:26 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Professor > > Was just thinking of you when I was listening to Alice's Restaurant on > WZLX. I remember the first time I heard it was when I was at WNEU on a > Sunday night and Waxy played it - 50 years ago I wonder how many younger listeners who hear that song today understand the cultural references... From attychase@comcast.net Fri Nov 24 15:15:04 2017 From: attychase@comcast.net (Attorney Chase) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 15:15:04 -0500 Subject: One cultural reference for "Alice's Restaurant" References: Message-ID: In addition to the Vietnam War references, and some of the drug, peace, and free love references, IMHO there is a little known pop cultural reference known only by radio insiders concerning the playing of the full Alice's Restaurant piece on those stations that allowed it, and especially on college radio back in the day, and that was, what was the DJ doing during the rendition and why it was played at that particular time! From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Fri Nov 24 21:31:16 2017 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 21:31:16 -0500 Subject: One cultural reference for "Alice's Restaurant" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20171124213001.056e5830@plymouthcolony.net> At 03:15 PM 11/24/2017, Attorney Chase wrote: >... especially on college radio back in the day, and that was, what was the DJ doing during the rendition and why it was played at that particular time! Maybe he was smoking a jazz cigarette. Dale H. Cook, Radio Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From 011010001@interpring.com Sun Nov 26 20:19:19 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 20:19:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Don wrote: > Personally, I think everyone's jumping the gun a bit. Maybe, but Eyeheart is up to its ears in debt. Their priority has always been cost-cutting. > And, personally, Entercom did nothing for WRKO....and basically made it the > non-entity that it is today. For the talk station of record in Boston, there > is barely anything worht listening to on that station. Look what Entercom made of the former WHDH 850, a station that was once number one in the market. The wonder is that they kept it, trading WRKO to Eyeheart. 850 barely shows in the ratings; hardly a soul in greater Boston would notice if it went off the air. I expect Eyeheart will make WRKO a showcase for its Premiere shows, like Rush and Sean Hannity. It'll be interesting to see what they do with Howie Carr. Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Nov 27 14:47:34 2017 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 14:47:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, pariho@mail.com wrote: > ? Put Howie on 1030!?!?! > ? > No signal problems there... Howie Carr isn't an employee of WRKO; he pays for time there, unless I'm misinformed. I believe Barry Armstrong does the same thing. Rob From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Nov 27 18:42:21 2017 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:42:21 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Since Nov of '14, Howie has syndicated his show on some two dozen stations.WRKO refused to air him at first so WMEX picked him up.After ratings slid, Entercom picked Howie up again at RKO, the following March.They are an affiliate; he isn't Entercom's employee. iHeart only gets WRKO when WKOX is sold.Several of Howie's affiliates are iHeart including on Cape Cod and in Holyoke and Hartford and he says he has a good relationship with them. On Nov 27, 2017 2:48 PM, "Rob Landry" <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, pariho@mail.com wrote: > > Put Howie on 1030!?!?! >> >> No signal problems there... >> > > Howie Carr isn't an employee of WRKO; he pays for time there, unless I'm > misinformed. > > I believe Barry Armstrong does the same thing. > > > Rob > From astelle.donald@gmail.com Mon Nov 27 15:17:38 2017 From: astelle.donald@gmail.com (Don) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 15:17:38 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM References: Message-ID: <4F42894045D548E2844677A55514888B@ownerd8aa55a4d> >>Howie Carr isn't an employee of WRKO; he pays for time there, unless I'm >> misinformed. I thought they actually paid him for the show. (albeit a much lower sum than his previous salary) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Landry" <011010001@interpring.com> To: Cc: "Don" ; "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM > > > On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, pariho@mail.com wrote: > >> Put Howie on 1030!?!?! >> >> No signal problems there... > > Howie Carr isn't an employee of WRKO; he pays for time there, unless I'm > misinformed. > > I believe Barry Armstrong does the same thing. > > > Rob From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Nov 27 22:12:39 2017 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 22:12:39 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: <4F42894045D548E2844677A55514888B@ownerd8aa55a4d> References: <4F42894045D548E2844677A55514888B@ownerd8aa55a4d> Message-ID: They pay to run the show as an affiliate.He isn't a salaried Entercom employee.He spent several years trying ti break free from them! In 2007 he was all set to jump to Greater Media's WTKK as a morning host.A judge ruled against it and he had to stay with Entercom till late 2014. On Nov 27, 2017 9:55 PM, "Don" wrote: > Howie Carr isn't an employee of WRKO; he pays for time there, unless I'm >>> misinformed. >>> >> > I thought they actually paid him for the show. (albeit a much lower sum > than his previous salary) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Landry" <011010001@interpring.com> > To: > Cc: "Don" ; "Boston Radio Group" < > boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org> > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:47 PM > Subject: Re: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM > > > >> >> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, pariho@mail.com wrote: >> >> Put Howie on 1030!?!?! >>> >>> No signal problems there... >>> >> >> Howie Carr isn't an employee of WRKO; he pays for time there, unless I'm >> misinformed. >> >> I believe Barry Armstrong does the same thing. >> >> >> Rob >> > > From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Nov 28 02:13:51 2017 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 02:13:51 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: References: <4F42894045D548E2844677A55514888B@ownerd8aa55a4d> Message-ID: <6622b011-024c-cf13-c338-1465e37797fc@attorneyross.com> OK, I guess that's what happened. On 11/27/2017 10:12 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > They pay to run the show as an affiliate.He isn't a salaried Entercom > employee.He spent several years trying ti break free from them! > > In 2007 he was all set to jump to Greater Media's WTKK as a morning host.A > judge ruled against it and he had to stay with Entercom till late 2014. > > On Nov 27, 2017 9:55 PM, "Don" wrote: > >> Howie Carr isn't an employee of WRKO; he pays for time there, unless I'm >>>> misinformed. >>>> >> I thought they actually paid him for the show. (albeit a much lower sum >> than his previous salary) >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Landry" <011010001@interpring.com> >> To: >> Cc: "Don" ; "Boston Radio Group" < >> boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org> >> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:47 PM >> Subject: Re: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM >> >> >> >>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, pariho@mail.com wrote: >>> >>> Put Howie on 1030!?!?! >>>> No signal problems there... >>>> >>> Howie Carr isn't an employee of WRKO; he pays for time there, unless I'm >>> misinformed. >>> >>> I believe Barry Armstrong does the same thing. >>> >>> >>> Rob >>> >> -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Nov 28 02:12:33 2017 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 02:12:33 -0500 Subject: Peter Casey out at WBZ-AM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4d8fbb18-88c0-ed12-c967-8b5b0958b767@attorneyross.com> Then there must have been a change of status since a few years ago, when Howie Carr tried to leave WRKO and was forced to stay. On 11/27/2017 2:47 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > > > On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, pariho@mail.com wrote: > >> ? Put Howie on 1030!?!?! >> >> No signal problems there... > > Howie Carr isn't an employee of WRKO; he pays for time there, unless > I'm misinformed. > > I believe Barry Armstrong does the same thing. > > > Rob > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 ? Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 ? Fax:617.507.7856 ? http://www.attorneyross.com