From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Oct 9 00:24:58 2016 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 00:24:58 -0400 Subject: Something strange on 95.9 Message-ID: <103d4b2e-9e7b-aa72-e457-ddfa9c2d5b19@attorneyross.com> While driving home from my office last night along Beacon Street in Newton, around 9:00 PM, I heard a strange station on 95.9, which seemed to be cutting in and out over WATD as I drove. At first I suspected a pirate, but it was broadcasting classical music, and the announcers sounded very professional. I wonder whether there was some E-skip or ducting going on last night. I continued to hear the station all the way home, but when I went out this afternoon, I didn't hear it. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 | Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 | Fx:617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sun Oct 9 02:35:51 2016 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 22:35:51 -0800 Subject: Something strange on 95.9 In-Reply-To: <103d4b2e-9e7b-aa72-e457-ddfa9c2d5b19@attorneyross.com> References: <103d4b2e-9e7b-aa72-e457-ddfa9c2d5b19@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: A 5 second search of google shows this is probably WCRI Block Island, Rhode island. On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 8:24 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > While driving home from my office last night along Beacon Street in > Newton, around 9:00 PM, I heard a strange station on 95.9, which seemed to > be cutting in and out over WATD as I drove. At first I suspected a pirate, > but it was broadcasting classical music, and the announcers sounded very > professional. I wonder whether there was some E-skip or ducting going on > last night. I continued to hear the station all the way home, but when I > went out this afternoon, I didn't hear it. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 | Newton, MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 | Fx:617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com > > From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Sun Oct 9 02:37:13 2016 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 02:37:13 -0400 Subject: Something strange on 95.9 In-Reply-To: <103d4b2e-9e7b-aa72-e457-ddfa9c2d5b19@attorneyross.com> References: <103d4b2e-9e7b-aa72-e457-ddfa9c2d5b19@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: On Sunday, October 9, 2016, A Joseph Ross wrote: > While driving home from my office last night along Beacon Street in > Newton, around 9:00 PM, I heard a strange station on 95.9, which seemed to > be cutting in and out over WATD as I drove. At first I suspected a pirate, > but it was broadcasting classical music, and the announcers sounded very > professional. I wonder whether there was some E-skip or ducting going on > last night. I continued to hear the station all the way home, but when I > went out this afternoon, I didn't hear it. > Perhaps it was WCRI from Block Island. http://classical959.com/ -- Sent from my iPhone From elipolo881@gmail.com Sun Oct 9 14:17:09 2016 From: elipolo881@gmail.com (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 14:17:09 -0400 Subject: Something strange on 95.9 Message-ID: I've often heard WCRI Block Island, RI interfering with WATD in the suburbs west of Boston during certain atmospheric conditions. EP > Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 00:24:58 -0400 > From: A Joseph Ross > To: Boston Radio > Subject: Something strange on 95.9 > Message-ID: <103d4b2e-9e7b-aa72-e457-ddfa9c2d5b19@attorneyross.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > While driving home from my office last night along Beacon Street in > Newton, around 9:00 PM, I heard a strange station on 95.9, which seemed > to be cutting in and out over WATD as I drove. At first I suspected a > pirate, but it was broadcasting classical music, and the announcers > sounded very professional. I wonder whether there was some E-skip or > ducting going on last night. I continued to hear the station all the > way home, but when I went out this afternoon, I didn't hear it. From elipolo881@gmail.com Sun Oct 9 14:15:24 2016 From: elipolo881@gmail.com (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 14:15:24 -0400 Subject: Something strange on 95.9 Message-ID: I've often heard WCRI Block Island, RI interfering with WATD in the suburbs west of Boston during certain atmospheric conditions. EP > Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 00:24:58 -0400 > From: A Joseph Ross > To: Boston Radio > Subject: Something strange on 95.9 > Message-ID: <103d4b2e-9e7b-aa72-e457-ddfa9c2d5b19@attorneyross.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > While driving home from my office last night along Beacon Street in > Newton, around 9:00 PM, I heard a strange station on 95.9, which seemed > to be cutting in and out over WATD as I drove. At first I suspected a > pirate, but it was broadcasting classical music, and the announcers > sounded very professional. I wonder whether there was some E-skip or > ducting going on last night. I continued to hear the station all the > way home, but when I went out this afternoon, I didn't hear it. > From ashboy1951@gmail.com Tue Oct 11 20:40:29 2016 From: ashboy1951@gmail.com (Doug Drown) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:40:29 -0400 Subject: Proposed call letters for NBC Boston Message-ID: According to radioinsight.com, NBCUniversal has filed with the FCC for approval of the call letters WBTS for its new Boston channel. Presumably these will be for what is now WNEU/60. There is no indication as to what the calls stand for, if anything. From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Oct 11 22:38:12 2016 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 22:38:12 -0400 Subject: Proposed call letters for NBC Boston In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003e01d22431$b2e31670$18a94350$@comcast.net> The calls of the former WTMU-LD RF channel 46, which just signed on a few weeks back from Needham, are now WBTS-LD. The WNEU calls remain for now on RF channel 34 from NH. Jeff Lehmann -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Doug Drown Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:40 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org Subject: Proposed call letters for NBC Boston According to radioinsight.com, NBCUniversal has filed with the FCC for approval of the call letters WBTS for its new Boston channel. Presumably these will be for what is now WNEU/60. There is no indication as to what the calls stand for, if anything. From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Oct 11 22:39:28 2016 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 22:39:28 -0400 Subject: Proposed call letters for NBC Boston In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So far they have only changed the calls on the LPTV station that acts as a repeater for WNEU http://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProEngine.php?sCurrentService=TV&tabSearchType=Appl&sAppIDNumber=208177 On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > According to radioinsight.com, NBCUniversal has filed with the FCC for > approval of the call letters WBTS for its new Boston channel. Presumably > these will be for what is now WNEU/60. There is no indication as to what > the calls stand for, if anything. > From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Oct 12 03:15:42 2016 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 03:15:42 -0400 Subject: Proposed call letters for NBC Boston In-Reply-To: <003e01d22431$b2e31670$18a94350$@comcast.net> References: <003e01d22431$b2e31670$18a94350$@comcast.net> Message-ID: I live in Inman Square Cambridge and when I do a scan I get nothing from WBTS-LD - are they actually transmitting? On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > The calls of the former WTMU-LD RF channel 46, which just signed on a few > weeks back from Needham, are now WBTS-LD. The WNEU calls remain for now on > RF channel 34 from NH. > > Jeff Lehmann > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest- > bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Doug Drown > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:40 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org > Subject: Proposed call letters for NBC Boston > > According to radioinsight.com, NBCUniversal has filed with the FCC for > approval of the call letters WBTS for its new Boston channel. Presumably > these will be for what is now WNEU/60. There is no indication as to what > the calls stand for, if anything. > > > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Oct 12 12:38:24 2016 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 12:38:24 -0400 Subject: Proposed call letters for NBC Boston In-Reply-To: References: <003e01d22431$b2e31670$18a94350$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5035DE3F-FD7A-4310-BFB2-F9DF3DFAF565@comcast.net> Last time I checked (last week) they were. I'll have to try again later this afternoon. Jeff Lehmann > On Oct 12, 2016, at 3:15 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > I live in Inman Square Cambridge and when I do a scan I get nothing from WBTS-LD - are they actually transmitting? > >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Jeff Lehmann wrote: >> The calls of the former WTMU-LD RF channel 46, which just signed on a few weeks back from Needham, are now WBTS-LD. The WNEU calls remain for now on RF channel 34 from NH. >> >> Jeff Lehmann >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Doug Drown >> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:40 PM >> To: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org >> Subject: Proposed call letters for NBC Boston >> >> According to radioinsight.com, NBCUniversal has filed with the FCC for approval of the call letters WBTS for its new Boston channel. Presumably these will be for what is now WNEU/60. There is no indication as to what the calls stand for, if anything. >> >> > From marklaurence@mac.com Wed Oct 12 13:45:31 2016 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:45:31 +0000 Subject: Proposed call letters for NBC Boston In-Reply-To: <5035DE3F-FD7A-4310-BFB2-F9DF3DFAF565@comcast.net> References: <003e01d22431$b2e31670$18a94350$@comcast.net> <5035DE3F-FD7A-4310-BFB2-F9DF3DFAF565@comcast.net> Message-ID: I did a scan today from my home in Roslindale (part of the city of Boston) and I did not get the LP station. But for the first time ever, I picked up channel 60. I wonder if there's been some upgrade in their signal, or is this just an unusually good day for propagation? From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Oct 12 13:48:29 2016 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:48:29 -0400 Subject: Proposed call letters for NBC Boston In-Reply-To: References: <003e01d22431$b2e31670$18a94350$@comcast.net> <5035DE3F-FD7A-4310-BFB2-F9DF3DFAF565@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4E9A0D61-D230-4193-B57D-D89B99968CDF@comcast.net> The LP station (46 WBTV-LD) maps to 60.1 and shows the calls as WNEU. Are you sure you were picking up WNEU on channel 34 and not actually 46 WBTV? If your TV doesn't allow manual tuning, you might not be able to tell, as the LP just feeds through exactly the same as what the parent station sends out. Jeff Lehmann > On Oct 12, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Mark Laurence wrote: > > I did a scan today from my home in Roslindale (part of the city of Boston) and I did not get the LP station. But for the first time ever, I picked up channel 60. I wonder if there's been some upgrade in their signal, or is this just an unusually good day for propagation? From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Oct 12 14:52:45 2016 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 14:52:45 -0400 Subject: Proposed call letters for NBC Boston In-Reply-To: References: <003e01d22431$b2e31670$18a94350$@comcast.net> <5035DE3F-FD7A-4310-BFB2-F9DF3DFAF565@comcast.net> <4E9A0D61-D230-4193-B57D-D89B99968CDF@comcast.net> Message-ID: <04AE30A1-36C5-46F2-9FA7-95207E4B97E4@comcast.net> I'm in front of the TV now and can confirm that WBTS-LD 46 is still on the air, as virtual channel 60.1 (.2 and .3 also) with "WNEU-HD" as the call letters. This is exactly the same way that WNEU itself shows up, as I was picking that up the other night as well with enhanced band conditions. Jeff Lehmann > On Oct 12, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Mark Laurence wrote: > > Ah, this mapping of one channel to the other is probably what's responsible. I could confirm one source or the other but I'm not home right now. Since I've never hoped to pick up the Manchester station, I'm pretty sure it's the new Boston source. At least I'll have some place to pick up NBC. > >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Jeff Lehmann wrote: >> The LP station (46 WBTV-LD) maps to 60.1 and shows the calls as WNEU. Are you sure you were picking up WNEU on channel 34 and not actually 46 WBTV? If your TV doesn't allow manual tuning, you might not be able to tell, as the LP just feeds through exactly the same as what the parent station sends out. >> >> Jeff Lehmann >> >> > On Oct 12, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Mark Laurence wrote: >> > >> > I did a scan today from my home in Roslindale (part of the city of Boston) and I did not get the LP station. But for the first time ever, I picked up channel 60. I wonder if there's been some upgrade in their signal, or is this just an unusually good day for propagation? >> > From marklaurence@mac.com Wed Oct 12 14:39:49 2016 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 14:39:49 -0400 Subject: Proposed call letters for NBC Boston In-Reply-To: <4E9A0D61-D230-4193-B57D-D89B99968CDF@comcast.net> References: <003e01d22431$b2e31670$18a94350$@comcast.net> <5035DE3F-FD7A-4310-BFB2-F9DF3DFAF565@comcast.net> <4E9A0D61-D230-4193-B57D-D89B99968CDF@comcast.net> Message-ID: Ah, this mapping of one channel to the other is probably what's responsible. I could confirm one source or the other but I'm not home right now. Since I've never hoped to pick up the Manchester station, I'm pretty sure it's the new Boston source. At least I'll have some place to pick up NBC. On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > The LP station (46 WBTV-LD) maps to 60.1 and shows the calls as WNEU. Are > you sure you were picking up WNEU on channel 34 and not actually 46 WBTV? > If your TV doesn't allow manual tuning, you might not be able to tell, as > the LP just feeds through exactly the same as what the parent station sends > out. > > Jeff Lehmann > > > On Oct 12, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Mark Laurence wrote: > > > > I did a scan today from my home in Roslindale (part of the city of > Boston) and I did not get the LP station. But for the first time ever, I > picked up channel 60. I wonder if there's been some upgrade in their > signal, or is this just an unusually good day for propagation? > > From James_Hall@uml.edu Wed Oct 12 16:46:47 2016 From: James_Hall@uml.edu (Hall, James) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:46:47 +0000 Subject: WBTS Message-ID: I'm flashing on all the hung-over TV fans on New Year's Day trying to find the Macy's parade and their favorite football game on NBC. Rescan?? What's that?? From webmaster@rabbitears.info Wed Oct 12 13:48:03 2016 From: webmaster@rabbitears.info (Trip Ericson) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:48:03 -0400 Subject: Proposed call letters for NBC Boston In-Reply-To: References: <003e01d22431$b2e31670$18a94350$@comcast.net> <5035DE3F-FD7A-4310-BFB2-F9DF3DFAF565@comcast.net> Message-ID: WBTS-LD is simulcasting WNEU, including its mapping to 60-1. - Trip www.rabbitears.info On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Mark Laurence wrote: > I did a scan today from my home in Roslindale (part of the city of Boston) > and I did not get the LP station. But for the first time ever, I picked up > channel 60. I wonder if there's been some upgrade in their signal, or is > this just an unusually good day for propagation? > From richard@chonak.com Thu Oct 13 20:04:36 2016 From: richard@chonak.com (=?utf-8?B?UmljaGFyZCBDaG9uYWs=?=) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 00:04:36 GMT Subject: Brudnoy and Dylan Message-ID: <000f4242.0baa532c100e54cd@chonak.com> Since Bob Dylan was in the news today for winning some award, I remembered that the late talk host David Brudnoy used to mention occasionally that they were cousins. Can anyone confirm whether this was true or a jest, and ?add any details? ? --Richard From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Oct 13 20:58:06 2016 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 20:58:06 -0400 Subject: UNS: Brudnoy and Dylan In-Reply-To: <000f4242.0baa532c100e54cd@chonak.com> References: <000f4242.0baa532c100e54cd@chonak.com> Message-ID: <22528.11678.402471.820605@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Since Bob Dylan was in the news today for winning some award, I > remembered that the late talk host David Brudnoy used to mention > occasionally that they were cousins. Can anyone confirm whether this > was true or a jest, and ?add any details? ? Well, I can't substantiate, but both were/are Minnesotans and Jewish, and were born around the same time, so it's not implausible. Brudnoy was born in Minneapolis and Zimmerman (as he was then) in Duluth, but that's not dispositive. Someone who subscribes to a genealogy service with Minnesota vital records should be able to tell whether the two men had a grandparent in common. -GAWollman From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Thu Oct 13 21:36:40 2016 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 01:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Don Kent's wide area forecast? References: <714922262.141690.1476409000625.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <714922262.141690.1476409000625@mail.yahoo.com> A couple of friends were trying to remember how Don Kent prefaced his forecasts for WBZ radio. Was if "from Ft Kent to Block Island" or something like that? I remember the Block Island.....but there was some point in Maine too, wasn't there? Whatever it was...it was a big swath, compared to the micro forecasting they do now! Don From danmurph@rcn.com Thu Oct 13 22:39:17 2016 From: danmurph@rcn.com (Dan Murphy) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 22:39:17 -0400 Subject: UNS: Brudnoy and Dylan In-Reply-To: <22528.11678.402471.820605@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <000f4242.0baa532c100e54cd@chonak.com> <22528.11678.402471.820605@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6468e4b2-bd9c-efd4-f4e4-24a31d4abaec@rcn.com> >> Since Bob Dylan was in the news today for winning some award, I >> remembered that the late talk host David Brudnoy used to mention >> occasionally that they were cousins. Can anyone confirm whether this >> was true or a jest, and add any details? > Well, I can't substantiate, but both were/are Minnesotans and Jewish, > and were born around the same time, so it's not implausible. Brudnoy > was born in Minneapolis and Zimmerman (as he was then) in Duluth, but > that's not dispositive. Someone who subscribes to a genealogy service > with Minnesota vital records should be able to tell whether the two > men had a grandparent in common. > > -GAWollman > Another musical cousin of Brudnoy is classical guitarist Sharon Isbin. For those unfamiliar, she's been a world-famous performer for decades and founded the Guitar Department at The Julliard School. From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Oct 13 22:47:27 2016 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 22:47:27 -0400 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: <714922262.141690.1476409000625.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I seem to remember frequently hearing "From Eastport to Block Island. I have no idea where Eastport is or was. On 10/13/2016 9:36 PM, D. A. via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: A couple of friends were trying to remember how Don Kent prefaced his forecasts for WBZ radio. Was if "from Ft Kent to Block Island" or something like that? I remember the Block Island.....but there was some point in Maine too, wasn't there? Whatever it was...it was a big swath, compared to the micro forecasting they do now! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 | Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 | Fx:617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Thu Oct 13 23:28:26 2016 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 03:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: No subject References: <528484.24887.1476415706121.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <528484.24887.1476415706121@mail.yahoo.com> >> Was not Don Kent Was US Weather Service I definitely remember Don Kent prefacing his forecast with something similar.... -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 10/13/16, Ron Bello wrote: Subject: Re: To: "D. A." Cc: "bri" Date: Thursday, October 13, 2016, 10:55 PM Was not Don Kent Was US Weather Service Might have been "Bar Harbor to Block Island" --------------------------------------------------- On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:36 PM, D. A. via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From:?"D. A." To:?bri Cc:? Date:?Fri, 14 Oct 2016 01:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject:?Don Kent's wide area forecast? A couple of friends were trying to remember how Don Kent prefaced his forecasts for WBZ radio. Was if "from Ft Kent to Block Island" or something like that? I remember the Block Island.....but there was some point in Maine too, wasn't there? Whatever it was...it was a big swath, compared to the micro forecasting they do now! Don From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Oct 14 01:00:42 2016 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 01:00:42 -0400 Subject: Don Kent's wide area forecast? In-Reply-To: References: <714922262.141690.1476409000625.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <22528.26234.338216.570615@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I seem to remember frequently hearing "From Eastport to Block Island. I > have no idea where Eastport is or was. Eastport, Maine, is the easternmost city in the United States. -GAWollman From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Oct 14 02:40:19 2016 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:40:19 -0400 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: <714922262.141690.1476409000625.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes - Eastport to Block Island is what he used. On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 10:47 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > I seem to remember frequently hearing "From Eastport to Block Island. I > have no idea where Eastport is or was. > > On 10/13/2016 9:36 PM, D. A. via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: > > A couple of friends were trying to remember how Don Kent prefaced his > forecasts for WBZ radio. > > Was if "from Ft Kent to Block Island" or something like that? > > I remember the Block Island.....but there was some point in Maine too, > wasn't there? > > Whatever it was...it was a big swath, compared to the micro forecasting > they do now! > > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 | Newton, MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 | Fx:617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com > > From tlmedia@intrstar.net Fri Oct 14 06:41:48 2016 From: tlmedia@intrstar.net (Ted Larsen) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 06:41:48 -0400 Subject: Don Kent Message-ID: <90a9ff8a-f0c4-42fd-800a-2891afd4d2d6@getmailbird.com> Eastport is Eastport Maine. On 10/13/2016 11:49:40 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: I seem to remember frequently hearing "From Eastport to Block Island. I have no idea where Eastport is or was. On 10/13/2016 9:36 PM, D. A. via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: A couple of friends were trying to remember how Don Kent prefaced his forecasts for WBZ radio. Was if "from Ft Kent to Block Island" or something like that? I remember the Block Island.....but there was some point in Maine too, wasn't there? Whatever it was...it was a big swath, compared to the micro forecasting they do now! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 | Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 | Fx:617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com From rbello@belloassoc.com Thu Oct 13 22:55:07 2016 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 22:55:07 -0400 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: <714922262.141690.1476409000625.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Was not Don Kent Was US Weather Service Might have been "Bar Harbor to Block Island" --------------------------------------------------- On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:36 PM, D. A. via Boston-Radio-Interest < boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "D. A." > To: bri > Cc: > Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 01:36:40 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: Don Kent's wide area forecast? > A couple of friends were trying to remember how Don Kent prefaced his > forecasts for WBZ radio. > > Was if "from Ft Kent to Block Island" or something like that? > > I remember the Block Island.....but there was some point in Maine too, > wasn't there? > > Whatever it was...it was a big swath, compared to the micro forecasting > they do now! > > Don > > > From ashboy1951@gmail.com Fri Oct 14 09:43:59 2016 From: ashboy1951@gmail.com (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 09:43:59 -0400 Subject: Don Kent Message-ID: I was in the Eastport area last weekend and, yes, WBZ can be heard there, about 350 miles from Boston, 24/7. "It ain't the end of the world, but you can see it from they-ah." From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Fri Oct 14 20:36:12 2016 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 20:36:12 -0400 Subject: Don Kent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20161014203022.02f489a0@plymouthcolony.net> WBZ can also be heard on Hatteras Island in North Carolina, where the propagation is groundwave across mostly salt water (conductivity of 5,000 millisiemens per meter). After my parents moved from the South Shore to Frisco, NC, on the island my father listened to WBZ every morning to stay in touch with what was happening in New England. Dale H. Cook, Radio Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Fri Oct 14 23:28:15 2016 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 03:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Don Kent References: <429202195.74027.1476502095692.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <429202195.74027.1476502095692@mail.yahoo.com> On 10/13/2016 11:49:40 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: >> I seem to remember frequently hearing "From Eastport to Block Island. I have no idea where Eastport is or was. << If anyone wants to see the swath of area that would be encompassed by an "Eastpoint Maine to Block Island Forecast.... http://mapq.st/2ebX1p4 From ashboy1951@gmail.com Sat Oct 15 10:25:08 2016 From: ashboy1951@gmail.com (Doug Drown) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 10:25:08 -0400 Subject: "From Eastport to Block Island" Message-ID: Regarding the MapQuest map and WBZ's signal: Yup, we're talking the entire New England coast (and somewhat up the Bay of Fundy as well). I have relatives in Norwalk, CT, and can get 'BZ on my car radio there, though faintly due to its being sandwiched between WINS and WEPN. The daytime coverage area, as observed in my daytime travels, extends from Port Jervis, NY up through the Capital District area and from thence north-northeast to Sherbrooke and northeast to the Maritimes. That's a pretty darn wide swath. From donnahalper@gmail.com Thu Oct 13 23:16:26 2016 From: donnahalper@gmail.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 23:16:26 -0400 Subject: UNS: Brudnoy and Dylan In-Reply-To: <22528.11678.402471.820605@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <000f4242.0baa532c100e54cd@chonak.com> <22528.11678.402471.820605@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <5b68e4d4-b702-a47b-9c0a-73f2ac63a34e@gmail.com> On 10/13/2016 8:58 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> Since Bob Dylan was in the news today for winning some award, I >> remembered that the late talk host David Brudnoy used to mention >> occasionally that they were cousins. Can anyone confirm whether this >> was true or a jest, and add any details? Brudnoy said on his show a couple of times that they were second cousins. And this was re-quoted by a number of bloggers and newspapers. I can try to find out more. From pcasey281@comcast.net Sat Oct 15 17:09:01 2016 From: pcasey281@comcast.net (Peter Casey) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 17:09:01 -0400 Subject: UNS: Brudnoy and Dylan In-Reply-To: <6468e4b2-bd9c-efd4-f4e4-24a31d4abaec@rcn.com> References: <000f4242.0baa532c100e54cd@chonak.com> <22528.11678.402471.820605@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <6468e4b2-bd9c-efd4-f4e4-24a31d4abaec@rcn.com> Message-ID: <002201d22728$5fc55a30$1f500e90$@comcast.net> Bruds was Dylan's cousin. I remember him explaining it and I also remember his other cousin, Rachel, discussing it while the family was here after David's death. -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan Murphy Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 10:39 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: UNS: Brudnoy and Dylan >> Since Bob Dylan was in the news today for winning some award, I >> remembered that the late talk host David Brudnoy used to mention >> occasionally that they were cousins. Can anyone confirm whether this >> was true or a jest, and add any details? > Well, I can't substantiate, but both were/are Minnesotans and Jewish, > and were born around the same time, so it's not implausible. Brudnoy > was born in Minneapolis and Zimmerman (as he was then) in Duluth, but > that's not dispositive. Someone who subscribes to a genealogy service > with Minnesota vital records should be able to tell whether the two > men had a grandparent in common. > > -GAWollman > Another musical cousin of Brudnoy is classical guitarist Sharon Isbin. For those unfamiliar, she's been a world-famous performer for decades and founded the Guitar Department at The Julliard School. From ehennessy@verizon.net Mon Oct 17 08:43:44 2016 From: ehennessy@verizon.net (Ed Hennessy) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 07:43:44 -0500 (CDT) Subject: "From Eastport to Block Island" Message-ID: <12486760.728393.1476708224320.JavaMail.root@tvweb133074.mailsrvcs.net> I've picked up the WBZ groundwave/daytime signal near the ferry dock at Yarmouth, NS, on the SW coast of NS. That's on the back side of the signal, in the null, but no doubt the salt water path helps carry the signal that does get out that way. It goes away once you're more than a few miles inland, which isn't surprising given it's directional the other way. Ed Hennessy On 10/15/16, Doug Drown wrote: Regarding the MapQuest map and WBZ's signal: Yup, we're talking the entire New England coast (and somewhat up the Bay of Fundy as well). I have relatives in Norwalk, CT, and can get 'BZ on my car radio there, though faintly due to its being sandwiched between WINS and WEPN. The daytime coverage area, as observed in my daytime travels, extends from Port Jervis, NY up through the Capital District area and from thence north-northeast to Sherbrooke and northeast to the Maritimes. That's a pretty darn wide swath. From pbencurrier@hotmail.com Mon Oct 17 10:37:03 2016 From: pbencurrier@hotmail.com (Paul Currier) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:37:03 +0000 Subject: Don Kent's wide area forecast? In-Reply-To: <22528.26234.338216.570615@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <714922262.141690.1476409000625.ref@mail.yahoo.com> , <22528.26234.338216.570615@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: As I recall, it was E. B. Rideout on WEEI giving the forecast from Eastport Maine to Block Island, Rhode Island. Paul Sandwich ________________________________ From: Boston-Radio-Interest on behalf of Garrett Wollman Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 1:00 AM To: A Joseph Ross Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Don Kent's wide area forecast? < said: > I seem to remember frequently hearing "From Eastport to Block Island. I > have no idea where Eastport is or was. Eastport, Maine, is the easternmost city in the United States. -GAWollman From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Oct 17 13:49:36 2016 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 13:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: "From Eastport to Block Island" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The day of the Tsarnayev manhunt, I was driving to Binghamton, NY: west on the Pike to the NYS Thruway, then down I-88 to Binghamton. I was able to listen to WBZ all the way to Schenevus, NY, anout 50 miles down I-88 from Schenectady, before the signal became too weak to follow. That was during the day. At night, I've heard WBZ in Buffalo as loud and clear as a local. Rob On Sat, 15 Oct 2016, Doug Drown wrote: > Regarding the MapQuest map and WBZ's signal: Yup, we're talking the entire > New England coast (and somewhat up the Bay of Fundy as well). I have > relatives in Norwalk, CT, and can get 'BZ on my car radio there, though > faintly due to its being sandwiched between WINS and WEPN. The daytime > coverage area, as observed in my daytime travels, extends from Port Jervis, > NY up through the Capital District area and from thence north-northeast to > Sherbrooke and northeast to the Maritimes. That's a pretty darn wide > swath. > From Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com Mon Oct 17 14:44:10 2016 From: Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com (Don) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:44:10 -0400 Subject: "From Eastport to Block Island" References: Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Landry" <011010001@interpring.com> > That was during the day. At night, I've heard WBZ in Buffalo as loud and > clear as a local. There is a skip(ed) area at night after you leave the local signal...before you pick up the DX bounce. People have told me WBZ was an unreliable listen at night in Worcester and Springfield. And Martin Waters of Connecticut used to say that it was difficult to pick up there day and night. Seems the DX night signal pick up again once you hit Albany? From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Oct 18 00:06:44 2016 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 00:06:44 -0400 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <330d4616-414d-b509-f053-a6f392951559@attorneyross.com> On 10/17/2016 2:44 PM, Don via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: > People have told me WBZ was an unreliable listen at night in Worcester > and > Springfield. Yes, I remember that it used to fade out in Amherst when I was a student there in the 1960s. It's also hard to listen to at night during the drive back to Boston until somewhere around Worcester. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 | Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 | Fx:617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Oct 18 00:10:12 2016 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 00:10:12 -0400 Subject: "From Eastport to Block Island" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In March 1966, as a college student, I spent spring break in Bermuda. One night around 1:00 AM, while I was riding my rented moped and pulling out of a restaurant parking lot, a VW pulled up next to me, and from the car's radio, I could clearly hear the WBZ news on the car's radio. On 10/17/2016 1:49 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > > The day of the Tsarnayev manhunt, I was driving to Binghamton, NY: > west on the Pike to the NYS Thruway, then down I-88 to Binghamton. I > was able to listen to WBZ all the way to Schenevus, NY, anout 50 miles > down I-88 from Schenectady, before the signal became too weak to follow. > > That was during the day. At night, I've heard WBZ in Buffalo as loud > and clear as a local. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 | Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 | Fx:617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Oct 18 01:25:52 2016 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 01:25:52 -0400 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <330d4616-414d-b509-f053-a6f392951559@attorneyross.com> References: <330d4616-414d-b509-f053-a6f392951559@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: My recollection is 1030 would become unlistenable at night near Sturbridge but around Exit 2 in Lee it would lock in and it would be the strongest signal on the dial all the way to Chicago. In the winter an hour before sundown in Chicago, WBZ came in and was stronger than WGN, WMAQ, WLS and WBBM. In Chicago you could never hear the NYC clear channels as they were all adjacent to the Chicago stations - (660, 670 - 710, 720 - 770, 780 - 880, 890 ) but WBZ roared in. On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:06 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 10/17/2016 2:44 PM, Don via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: > > People have told me WBZ was an unreliable listen at night in Worcester and >> Springfield. >> > > Yes, I remember that it used to fade out in Amherst when I was a student > there in the 1960s. It's also hard to listen to at night during the drive > back to Boston until somewhere around Worcester. > > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 | Newton, MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 | Fx:617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com > > From Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com Tue Oct 18 01:45:43 2016 From: Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com (Don) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 01:45:43 -0400 Subject: "From Eastport to Block Island" References: Message-ID: <64589CA7ADCA44969B22FA060C32E60C@ownerd8aa55a4d> From: "A Joseph Ross" > In March 1966, as a college student, I spent spring break in Bermuda. One > night around 1:00 AM, while I was riding my rented moped and pulling out > of a restaurant parking lot, a VW pulled up next to me, and from the car's > radio, I could clearly hear the WBZ news on the car's radio. What's interesting is not that they COULD listen to WBZ in Bermuda...but that they were choosing to! From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Tue Oct 18 09:05:06 2016 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 09:05:06 -0400 Subject: "From Eastport to Block Island" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Saturday, October 15, 2016, Doug Drown wrote: > Regarding the MapQuest map and WBZ's signal: Yup, we're talking the entire > New England coast (and somewhat up the Bay of Fundy as well). I have > relatives in Norwalk, CT, and can get 'BZ on my car radio there, though > faintly due to its being sandwiched between WINS and WEPN. The daytime > coverage area, as observed in my daytime travels, extends from Port Jervis, > NY up through the Capital District area and from thence north-northeast to > Sherbrooke and northeast to the Maritimes. That's a pretty darn wide > swath. > Years ago, I picked up 1030 mid-afternoon while traveling on the Jersey Turnpike. It was in December, IIRC, so I'm sure that helped matters in terms of daytime reception. I think I was around Exit 8 or so but I don't remember anymore. -- Sent from my iPhone From map@mapinternet.com Tue Oct 18 14:10:54 2016 From: map@mapinternet.com (M.Casey) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 14:10:54 -0400 Subject: WBZ Coverage In-Reply-To: References: <330d4616-414d-b509-f053-a6f392951559@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <4D893C2E07BF41BEBA7B8B894E680711@laptop> I would agree that WBZ's night signal is greatly degraded past Sturbridge and picks up near the New York State line when what's left of the groundwave signal has little potential to cancel the, on average, much stronger skywave signal. Not long after I bought my first transistor radio in 1961, here, about 10 miles east of Springfield, we lost WBZA. Jefferson Kaye had some kind of contest going about Who was the world's biggest Ham, or something like that. I never found out who it was because WBZA shutdown in the middle of the contest, and at that time, I did not have a radio good enough to listen to WBZ's daytime signal. If you have a good radio or good car radio, WBZ is OK to Good here in the eastern suburbs of Springfield, most of the day. At night, a medium strength groundwave signal fights with the skywave that, by it's nature, varies from poor to very strong, but is usually a little better than the groundwave. So, for the average person, WBZ is mostly unlistenable here after dusk. I still listen sometimes at night, usually to Bradley J, but the signal is often very rough. As winter comes on, some days, skywave starts affecting AM Broadcast Band reception even before dark. That accounts for occassionally receiving WBZ fairly strong in places like New Jersey, PA or New York mornings well after sunrise, and mid to late afternoon before sunset from November to February. That's not to say that if you have a really good car radio you can't carry WBZ to just past the New York City environs, or just past Albany on just about any day in any season, during daylight hours. WBZ's daytime signal has appeared to get slightly better out here over the past 15 years or so. Maybe the maintenance of the site at Hull, or maybe some updates in the transmitter chain are responsible. Over the years I often compare WCBS's and WBZ's signals. In the 1960's, 70's, etc. WCBS was much stronger. During the last 15 years or so, WCBS is usually just a little bit stronger. Interestingly WBZ often seizes HD here daytime, while WCBS rarely does. About 30 years ago, the FCC made AM stations narrow their signals. While lessening fidelity a tiny bit, it made listening to adjacent channels much easier. But when AM HD came on, that often negated those improvements and made listenability of adjacent channel stations much worse. So now, both WBZ and KDKA on 1020 run HD radio 24 hours. That is sometimes, a problem, mostly for skywave listeners. WBZ's directional signal pattern toward the West, creates a slight null directly to the east, just above Provincetown, affecting the southern coast of Nova Scotia very little. Still, WBZ has a very good signal at Provincetwon, but there are other Boston AM stations that are louder there. At 50kw, most evening skywave signals start declining after 600-700 miles. Even though there is no power calculation for this in the FCC rules, WBZ's directionality gives it an effective power of more than 50kw toward the west, so that accounts for it's skywave signal being heard strongly at 800 or more miles distant toward the west, on a regular basis. Quite often, I travel from home, down the east coast to NC and Florida. WBZ's night signal where I stop in Eastern NC is almost always very, very good. Sometimes it seizes the HD signal for a while. But the night signal goes down in SC and is usually poor by the time I get to the Florida line on I95. Listening to an actual radio is still a lot of fun for me. But, now, except for the in-car listening, a lot of this is mute to many folks because nearly everyone can get a nice clear signal from WBZ through a smartphone and/or computer-ha! Mark Casey K1MAP Hampden, Mass. -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Vahey My recollection is 1030 would become unlistenable at night near Sturbridge but around Exit 2 in Lee it would lock in and it would be the strongest signal on the dial all the way to Chicago. In the winter an hour before sundown in Chicago, WBZ came in and was stronger than WGN, WMAQ, WLS and WBBM. In Chicago you could never hear the NYC clear channels as they were all adjacent to the Chicago stations - (660, 670 - 710, 720 - 770, 780 - 880, 890 ) but WBZ roared in. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7797 / Virus Database: 4664/13232 - Release Date: 10/18/16 From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Oct 18 14:43:29 2016 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 14:43:29 -0400 Subject: WBZ Reception In-Reply-To: References: <330d4616-414d-b509-f053-a6f392951559@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <0D625BE8-26F5-4C20-AAEA-CA0DEBBFD1B1@mac.com> The other night I was camping in Plant City, FL, which is about 10 miles east of Tampa, and tuned my walkman to 1030. I heard a station playing Spanish easy-listening music battling with a station with a talk format, which I could not get clearly enough to identify as being or not being WBZ. This was around 11PM on Saturday night. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, FL > On Oct 18, 2016, at 1:25 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > My recollection is 1030 would become unlistenable at night near Sturbridge > but around Exit 2 in Lee it would lock in and it would be the strongest > signal on the dial all the way to Chicago. In the winter an hour before > sundown in Chicago, WBZ came in and was stronger than WGN, WMAQ, WLS and > WBBM. > > In Chicago you could never hear the NYC clear channels as they were all > adjacent to the Chicago stations - (660, 670 - 710, 720 - 770, 780 - 880, > 890 ) but WBZ roared in. > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:06 AM, A Joseph Ross > wrote: > >> On 10/17/2016 2:44 PM, Don via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: >> >> People have told me WBZ was an unreliable listen at night in Worcester and >>> Springfield. >>> >> >> Yes, I remember that it used to fade out in Amherst when I was a student >> there in the 1960s. It's also hard to listen to at night during the drive >> back to Boston until somewhere around Worcester. >> >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 | Newton, MA 02459 >> 617.367.0468 | Fx:617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> From Kaimbridge@Gmail.com Wed Oct 19 00:45:19 2016 From: Kaimbridge@Gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 04:45:19 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: WBZ Coverage Message-ID: Mark Casey wrote, > About 30 years ago, the FCC made AM stations narrow their > signals. While lessening fidelity a tiny bit, it made > listening to adjacent channels much easier. But when AM HD > came on, that often negated those improvements and made > listenability of adjacent channel stations much worse. So now, > both WBZ and KDKA on 1020 run HD radio 24 hours. That is > sometimes, a problem, mostly for skywave listeners. Not anymore. I don?t know about KDKA, but WBZ stopped running IBOC at night about a year ago?actually a year ago, mid-November?to protect KDKA. ~Kaimbridge~ -- -- -- Wiki?Sites Contribution History Pages: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge math.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge wiki.gis.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge rosettacode.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From ashboy1951@gmail.com Tue Oct 18 23:39:57 2016 From: ashboy1951@gmail.com (Doug Drown) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:39:57 -0400 Subject: WBZ Reception Message-ID: >>> In Chicago you could never hear the NYC clear channels as they were all > adjacent to the Chicago stations - (660, 670 - 710, 720 - 770, 780 - 880, > 890 ) but WBZ roared in. Am I correct in thinking that over time, as the national networks built or purchased what became their New York and Chicago O&Os, the above scheme was organized deliberately? It sticks in my mind that I read that somewhere. From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 06:51:08 2016 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 10:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: WBZ reception References: <1838009265.1132143.1476874268195.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1838009265.1132143.1476874268195@mail.yahoo.com> ?Larry Weil wrote:>I heard a station playing Spanish easy-listening music battling with a station with a talk >format, which I could not get clearly enough to identify as being or not being WBZ. This >was around 11PM on Saturday night. That was probably WONQ, Oviedo, Florida. It's?45 kW day, non-directional, and?1.7?kWnight, three towers. From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 07:51:05 2016 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: WBZ Coverage In-Reply-To: <4D893C2E07BF41BEBA7B8B894E680711@laptop> References: <330d4616-414d-b509-f053-a6f392951559@attorneyross.com> <4D893C2E07BF41BEBA7B8B894E680711@laptop> Message-ID: <949873552.2790950.1476877865189@mail.yahoo.com> ?Mark Casey wrote: >WBZ's directional signal pattern toward the West, creates a slight null >directly to the east, just above Provincetown, affecting the southern coast >of Nova Scotia very little. Still, WBZ has a very good signal at >Provincetown, but there are other Boston AM stations that are louder there. ??? I once did some amateur math on the back of a napkin and figured that WBZ's pattern sends around the equivalent of 90 or 100 kW at its strongest point, which is very close to due west. The null on the backside is not at all slight. It' almost total, but only over a narrow section of the compass close to due east. The only reason it gets to Provincetown is the salt water.?But rolling off a ferry in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, one morning, well after sunrise, the ground wave was clear and steady. Kevin Vahey?wrote:>My recollection is 1030 would become unlistenable at night near Sturbridge >but around Exit 2 in Lee it would lock in and it would be the strongest >signal on the dial all the way to Chicago. ????I don't usually experience these signal problems on car radios. Going east on the Pike, by the time I reach the Sturbridge rest area, at night, WBZ is solid, same as daytime. And it sounds decent -- without any serious ground wave/sky wave interference -- from around the Ellington truck stop on I-84 in Connecticut, or even farther out. ??? This applies to about two hours or more after sunset. It's been my experience that the interference is noticeable mainly when the sky wave is weak and fluctuating just before and after sunset. And, it's possible that folks are hearing sky-wave interference from the several stations to the west on 1030 that don't go to mini-power or shut off until their local sunset, which is later by as much as around an hour, maybe more in some cases. The FCC plays make-believe about such interfering sky waves, but the sky waves didn't get the memo and they show up anyway. Sometimes you don't hear any audio signal, just fluctuating noise, "beating." ??? IMO, once the WBZ sky wave builds up and remains steady nearly 100 percent of the time, it sort of "takes over" from the ground wave way out here on the edge of the usable ground wave zone. At my house near New Haven, WBZ's signal is overall better at night than during the day. I'm almost?out to the0.1 millivolt ground wave contour, but?at 115?miles from WBZ, I'm?far enough away to get a decent sky wave.????? From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Wed Oct 19 09:10:43 2016 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:10:43 -0400 Subject: OT: E-mails with empty text Message-ID: I've noticed that a few posters' e-mails come without text in the message. Always happens for me with Don A and Sir Waters' posts. I'll see the preview in my inbox, but nothing when I try to read it. I'm using off-the-shelf gmail via apps and the website. Any advice? Garrett? I swear I'm not this much of a Luddite. -- Sent from my iPhone From tlmedia@intrstar.net Wed Oct 19 12:24:53 2016 From: tlmedia@intrstar.net (Ted Larsen) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 12:24:53 -0400 Subject: OT: E-mails with empty text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6eba3ae2-119b-4d62-aa50-bda69f9745e9@getmailbird.com> I get the same blank email. All I can think it's a spammer or a bot. Why he/she/it is doing it I have no idea.? On 10/19/2016 12:04:22 PM, Sean Smyth wrote: I've noticed that a few posters' e-mails come without text in the message. Always happens for me with Don A and Sir Waters' posts. I'll see the preview in my inbox, but nothing when I try to read it. I'm using off-the-shelf gmail via apps and the website. Any advice? Garrett? I swear I'm not this much of a Luddite. -- Sent from my iPhone From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Wed Oct 19 13:05:53 2016 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 13:05:53 -0400 Subject: OT: E-mails with empty text In-Reply-To: <6eba3ae2-119b-4d62-aa50-bda69f9745e9@getmailbird.com> References: <6eba3ae2-119b-4d62-aa50-bda69f9745e9@getmailbird.com> Message-ID: It's definitely not spam. They are legit messages, usually with some good content. I'll usually go to the archives to read them and track them down, but sometimes forget. https://lists.bostonradio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/ On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Ted Larsen wrote: > *I get the same blank email. All I can think it's a spammer or a bot. Why > he/she/it is doing it I have no idea. * > > On 10/19/2016 12:04:22 PM, Sean Smyth > wrote: > I've noticed that a few posters' e-mails come without text in the message. > Always happens for me with Don A and Sir Waters' posts. I'll see the > preview in my inbox, but nothing when I try to read it. I'm using > off-the-shelf gmail via apps and the website. Any advice? Garrett? I swear > I'm not this much of a Luddite. > > > -- > Sent from my iPhone > > -- Sent from my iPhone From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Oct 19 12:13:20 2016 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 08:13:20 -0800 Subject: OT: E-mails with empty text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm on gmail via my iPhone and have the same problem On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Sean Smyth wrote: > I've noticed that a few posters' e-mails come without text in the message. > Always happens for me with Don A and Sir Waters' posts. I'll see the > preview in my inbox, but nothing when I try to read it. I'm using > off-the-shelf gmail via apps and the website. Any advice? Garrett? I swear > I'm not this much of a Luddite. > > > -- > Sent from my iPhone > From sids1045@aol.com Wed Oct 19 13:40:21 2016 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sidney Schweiger) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 13:40:21 -0400 Subject: OT: E-mails with empty text In-Reply-To: <6eba3ae2-119b-4d62-aa50-bda69f9745e9@getmailbird.com> References: <6eba3ae2-119b-4d62-aa50-bda69f9745e9@getmailbird.com> Message-ID: <553A636C-7BAE-4692-96DA-C3C6DEC650D1@aol.com> "I get the same blank email. All I can think it's a spammer or a bot. Why he/she/it is doing it I have no idea." "I've noticed that a few posters' e-mails come without text in the message. Always happens for me with Don A and Sir Waters' posts." If there's a MIME attachment to these textless e-mails, that's where the message lives. From tlmedia@intrstar.net Wed Oct 19 15:09:04 2016 From: tlmedia@intrstar.net (Ted Larsen) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:09:04 -0400 Subject: OT: E-mails with empty text In-Reply-To: <6eba3ae2-119b-4d62-aa50-bda69f9745e9@getmailbird.com> References: <6eba3ae2-119b-4d62-aa50-bda69f9745e9@getmailbird.com> Message-ID: <6639a724-db72-487c-aec1-c812872eefa7@getmailbird.com> If you have an email/program client that allows you view the Full Header you'll probably see the message text.? On 10/19/2016 12:24:53 PM, Ted Larsen wrote: I get the same blank email. All I can think it's a spammer or a bot. Why he/she/it is doing it I have no idea.? On 10/19/2016 12:04:22 PM, Sean Smyth wrote: I've noticed that a few posters' e-mails come without text in the message. Always happens for me with Don A and Sir Waters' posts. I'll see the preview in my inbox, but nothing when I try to read it. I'm using off-the-shelf gmail via apps and the website. Any advice? Garrett? I swear I'm not this much of a Luddite. -- Sent from my iPhone From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Oct 19 14:56:37 2016 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 14:56:37 -0400 Subject: WBZ Reception In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am certain it was no accident. The other 50 KW clear that roared into Chicago was WWL 870 New Orleans for the same reason WBZ did - directional by choice not mandate. On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > >>> In Chicago you could never hear the NYC clear channels as they were all > > adjacent to the Chicago stations - (660, 670 - 710, 720 - 770, 780 - 880, > > 890 ) but WBZ roared in. > > Am I correct in thinking that over time, as the national networks built or > purchased what became their New York and Chicago O&Os, the above scheme was > organized deliberately? It sticks in my mind that I read that somewhere. > From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Oct 19 20:35:43 2016 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 20:35:43 -0400 Subject: E-mails with empty text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22536.4447.332829.838384@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I've noticed that a few posters' e-mails come without text in the message. > Always happens for me with Don A and Sir Waters' posts. I'll see the > preview in my inbox, but nothing when I try to read it. I'm using > off-the-shelf gmail via apps and the website. Any advice? Garrett? I swear > I'm not this much of a Luddite. Google "DMARC controversy". Certain large email providers have set things up so that whenever any of their users send mail to a mailing-list or other forwarder -- other than the ones they themselves operate, of course -- other large email providers will generate a bounce rather than accepting it. The result of this is that whenever any AOL or Yahoo! Mail user sends three messages to a mailing-list, all of the GMail users get automatically unsubscribed. There are two defenses against this. Either 1) the mailing-list can mangle the sender's address, or 2) the mailing-list can encapsulate the problem messages. Either way the DMARC policy is not invoked and GMail doesn't send bounces. Since all right-thinking people abhor option (1), I have configured option (2) instead. This only happens for senders whose email domain publishes a DMARC policy which would otherwise generate bounces. If you read this list via the digest, this issue does not come into play, as the From: address of the digest is at a domain (bostonradio.org) that does not publish a problematic DMARC policy. -GAWollman From aerie.ma@comcast.net Wed Oct 19 19:59:50 2016 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 19:59:50 -0400 Subject: WBZ Reception In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005801d22a64$e2288c10$a679a430$@comcast.net> I remember that when Jerry Williams moved to Chicago, WBBM took out several ads in Boston newspapers telling people where to find him. I don't know how successful they were, because WABC pretty much made listening to WBBM difficult. >The other 50 KW clear that roared into Chicago was WWL 870 New Orleans for the same reason WBZ did - directional by choice not mandate. From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Oct 20 00:37:24 2016 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 00:37:24 -0400 Subject: OT: E-mails with empty text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4362e4d7-90d8-e513-b450-bb83d0d09a8c@attorneyross.com> A number of posts seem to be coming as attachments to the main message. On 10/19/2016 9:10 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > I've noticed that a few posters' e-mails come without text in the message. > Always happens for me with Don A and Sir Waters' posts. I'll see the > preview in my inbox, but nothing when I try to read it. I'm using > off-the-shelf gmail via apps and the website. Any advice? Garrett? I swear > I'm not this much of a Luddite. > > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 | Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 | Fx:617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Oct 20 00:41:17 2016 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 00:41:17 -0400 Subject: E-mails with empty text In-Reply-To: <22536.4447.332829.838384@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <22536.4447.332829.838384@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <98dce1b3-54cf-78b5-f1fd-4e7c9d538e34@attorneyross.com> Since my email client is configured to show attachments in-line, I get these normally and don't have to click on attachments to read the messages. My advice to people who get seemingly blank emails is, look for an attachment and open it. That's where the message is. On 10/19/2016 8:35 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> I've noticed that a few posters' e-mails come without text in the message. >> Always happens for me with Don A and Sir Waters' posts. I'll see the >> preview in my inbox, but nothing when I try to read it. I'm using >> off-the-shelf gmail via apps and the website. Any advice? Garrett? I swear >> I'm not this much of a Luddite. > Google "DMARC controversy". > > Certain large email providers have set things up so that whenever any > of their users send mail to a mailing-list or other forwarder -- other > than the ones they themselves operate, of course -- other large email > providers will generate a bounce rather than accepting it. The result > of this is that whenever any AOL or Yahoo! Mail user sends three > messages to a mailing-list, all of the GMail users get automatically > unsubscribed. > > There are two defenses against this. Either > > 1) the mailing-list can mangle the sender's address, or > 2) the mailing-list can encapsulate the problem messages. > > Either way the DMARC policy is not invoked and GMail doesn't send > bounces. Since all right-thinking people abhor option (1), I have > configured option (2) instead. This only happens for senders whose > email domain publishes a DMARC policy which would otherwise generate > bounces. > > If you read this list via the digest, this issue does not come into > play, as the From: address of the digest is at a domain > (bostonradio.org) that does not publish a problematic DMARC policy. > > -GAWollman > > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 | Newton, MA 02459 617.367.0468 | Fx:617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Oct 20 10:04:09 2016 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 10:04:09 -0400 Subject: E-mails with empty text In-Reply-To: <98dce1b3-54cf-78b5-f1fd-4e7c9d538e34@attorneyross.com> References: <22536.4447.332829.838384@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <98dce1b3-54cf-78b5-f1fd-4e7c9d538e34@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Uh, no..... when viewing on the gmail app, i get an email showing who the email is from but its blank and theres no message.. no attachment On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 12:41 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > Since my email client is configured to show attachments in-line, I get > these normally and don't have to click on attachments to read the > messages. My advice to people who get seemingly blank emails is, look for > an attachment and open it. That's where the message is. > > > > On 10/19/2016 8:35 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > >> < >> said: >> >> I've noticed that a few posters' e-mails come without text in the message. >>> Always happens for me with Don A and Sir Waters' posts. I'll see the >>> preview in my inbox, but nothing when I try to read it. I'm using >>> off-the-shelf gmail via apps and the website. Any advice? Garrett? I >>> swear >>> I'm not this much of a Luddite. >>> >> Google "DMARC controversy". >> >> Certain large email providers have set things up so that whenever any >> of their users send mail to a mailing-list or other forwarder -- other >> than the ones they themselves operate, of course -- other large email >> providers will generate a bounce rather than accepting it. The result >> of this is that whenever any AOL or Yahoo! Mail user sends three >> messages to a mailing-list, all of the GMail users get automatically >> unsubscribed. >> >> There are two defenses against this. Either >> >> 1) the mailing-list can mangle the sender's address, or >> 2) the mailing-list can encapsulate the problem messages. >> >> Either way the DMARC policy is not invoked and GMail doesn't send >> bounces. Since all right-thinking people abhor option (1), I have >> configured option (2) instead. This only happens for senders whose >> email domain publishes a DMARC policy which would otherwise generate >> bounces. >> >> If you read this list via the digest, this issue does not come into >> play, as the From: address of the digest is at a domain >> (bostonradio.org) that does not publish a problematic DMARC policy. >> >> -GAWollman >> >> >> > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 | Newton, MA 02459 > 617.367.0468 | Fx:617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com > > From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Thu Oct 20 09:46:38 2016 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 09:46:38 -0400 Subject: WBZ Reception In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20161020092647.02d51f60@plymouthcolony.net> At 02:56 PM 10/19/2016, Kevin Vahey wrote: >The other 50 KW clear that roared into Chicago was WWL 870 New Orleans for the same reason WBZ did - directional by choice not mandate. Neither WBZ nor WWL gets an immense power gain in the major lobe from their directional patterns, which are cardioids. WBZ gains to the north, west and east because its parameters are close to 90 degree spacing, close to 90 degree phase angle, and unity ratio, yielding a single null to the east (very close to the classic simplest cardiod). WWL gains to east and west, maximizing coverage along the Gulf coast, with two nulls and a minor lobe to the south. WBZ has significantly higher power gain towards Chicago than WWL.. In both cases one primary reason for the choice of a directional antenna system is that fish have neither diaries nor people meters. Dale H. Cook, Radio Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Oct 20 10:49:51 2016 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 10:49:51 -0400 Subject: WBZ Reception In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20161020092647.02d51f60@plymouthcolony.net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20161020092647.02d51f60@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: I once heard WBZ on a walkman while riding on a greyhound bus around 5pm one late november afternoon in 2004 somewhere in north carolina.. and it was pretty darn clear too Paul On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Dale H. Cook wrote: > At 02:56 PM 10/19/2016, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > >The other 50 KW clear that roared into Chicago was WWL 870 New Orleans > for the same reason WBZ did - directional by choice not mandate. > > Neither WBZ nor WWL gets an immense power gain in the major lobe from > their directional patterns, which are cardioids. WBZ gains to the north, > west and east because its parameters are close to 90 degree spacing, close > to 90 degree phase angle, and unity ratio, yielding a single null to the > east (very close to the classic simplest cardiod). WWL gains to east and > west, maximizing coverage along the Gulf coast, with two nulls and a minor > lobe to the south. WBZ has significantly higher power gain towards Chicago > than WWL.. In both cases one primary reason for the choice of a directional > antenna system is that fish have neither diaries nor people meters. > > Dale H. Cook, Radio Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA > http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html > > From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Oct 20 20:58:20 2016 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:58:20 -0400 Subject: E-mails with empty text In-Reply-To: References: <22536.4447.332829.838384@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <98dce1b3-54cf-78b5-f1fd-4e7c9d538e34@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <22537.26668.144982.997085@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Uh, no..... when viewing on the gmail app, i get an email showing who the > email is from but its blank and theres no message.. no attachment Well, that's a bug in GMail. You'll have to bring it up with Google, I'm afraid, and they probably couldn't care less. -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Oct 20 21:01:03 2016 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 21:01:03 -0400 Subject: WBZ Reception In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20161020092647.02d51f60@plymouthcolony.net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20161020092647.02d51f60@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: <22537.26831.230386.836259@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Neither WBZ nor WWL gets an immense power gain in the major lobe > from their directional patterns, which are cardioids. WBZ gains to > the north, west and east because its parameters are close to 90 > degree spacing, close to 90 degree phase angle, and unity ratio, Exactly 90 degrees at 990 kHz (303 m) -- remember, that facility was built in 1940! -GAWollman From markwa1ion@aol.com Fri Oct 21 00:38:13 2016 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 00:38:13 -0400 Subject: WBZ Reception Message-ID: <157e5883b24-6441-2ec0@webprd-m95.mail.aol.com> Two of the more interesting WBZ airchecks in my collections are these "way out there" receptions made by friends. Dick Summer "Nightlight" show - OCT 1965. Recorded by Roger Perkins, K1CZH (later W1OJ) on an R-390A receiver on a US Navy ship docked at Midway Island in the Pacific. http://chowdanet.com/markc/WEB2005A/dx_wbz-1030_heard_from_midway_island_oct1965.mp3 ID, talk about New England Flower Show - 29 FEB 1996. Contributed by Geoff Wolfe - Cooma, Australia http://chowdanet.com/markc/WEB2005A/dx_wbz_heard_from_australia_1996-02-29.mp3 I heard WBZ in Ireland on my trip there in 1977 but 850 (then WHDH) had the best signal out of Boston. (1510 was still 5 kW night then.) Here's the WHDH recording on a Realistic TRF portable with no external antenna. I think this was from Sligo. http://chowdanet.com/markc/dx_audio/WHDH_850_heard_in_Ireland_1977.mp3 Meanwhile, here on Cape Cod at night, WBZ is not bulletproof. This recent recording shows an Argentinian station "Noticias del Plata" mixing in. Water directly south of here is a big "conveyor belt" for RF from South America and the Caribbean as anyone who's ever tuned around at night on a car radio near West Dennis Beach can testify. http://www.qsl.net/wa1ion/audio1/argentina+wbz-1030_20160903_0100z.mp3 For a load of other AM DX audio clips, see: http://www.qsl.net/wa1ion/dx_audio.htm Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA << >From Paul B. Walker, Jr. Cc Boston Radio Group Subject Re: WBZ Reception Date Thu, 20 Oct 2016 10:49:51 -0400 I once heard WBZ on a walkman while riding on a greyhound bus around 5pm one late november afternoon in 2004 somewhere in north carolina.. and it was pretty darn clear too Paul On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Dale H. Cook wrote: > At 02:56 PM 10/19/2016, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > >The other 50 KW clear that roared into Chicago was WWL 870 New Orleans > for the same reason WBZ did - directional by choice not mandate. > > Neither WBZ nor WWL gets an immense power gain in the major lobe from > their directional patterns, which are cardioids. WBZ gains to the north, > west and east because its parameters are close to 90 degree spacing, close > to 90 degree phase angle, and unity ratio, yielding a single null to the > east (very close to the classic simplest cardiod). WWL gains to east and > west, maximizing coverage along the Gulf coast, with two nulls and a minor > lobe to the south. WBZ has significantly higher power gain towards Chicago > than WWL.. In both cases one primary reason for the choice of a directional > antenna system is that fish have neither diaries nor people meters. > > Dale H. Cook, Radio Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA > http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html >> From bob.bosra@demattia.net Sat Oct 22 21:51:19 2016 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 21:51:19 -0400 Subject: Transmission Issue Causes Outage For Some WBZ-TV Viewers Message-ID: Anybody know what this is about? Not getting any reception at all on 4 or 38. http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/10/22/transmission-issue-causes-outage-for-some-wbz-tv-viewers/ -Bob From scott@fybush.com Sat Oct 22 23:40:05 2016 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 23:40:05 -0400 Subject: Transmission Issue Causes Outage For Some WBZ-TV Viewers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The top antenna at 350 Cedar Street failed for the second time in four years. Of the stations that usually use it, only WCVB has an aux antenna lower on the tower. The plan apparently is to move WGBH off the lower master antenna down to the WCVB aux, and then use the lower master temporarily for WBZ, WCVB, WSBK and WGBX, which usually use the upper master. On Oct 22, 2016 10:45 PM, "Bob DeMattia" wrote: Anybody know what this is about? Not getting any reception at all on 4 or 38. http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/10/22/transmission-issue- causes-outage-for-some-wbz-tv-viewers/ -Bob From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Oct 23 01:11:20 2016 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 01:11:20 -0400 Subject: Transmission Issue Causes Outage For Some WBZ-TV Viewers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22540.18040.410142.481546@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > The plan apparently is to move WGBH off the lower master antenna down to > the WCVB aux, and then use the lower master temporarily for WBZ, WCVB, WSBK > and WGBX, which usually use the upper master. And the reason 'GBH has to move for this to work is that WGBH is on RF channel 19, and WCVB is on RF 20; the combiner system can't provide enough isolation to run first-adjacent channels off the same antenna. (That's why there are two broadband UHF antennas in the first place -- this was an issue during the transition as well, with WGBX on analog 44 and digital 43.) And of course once the repacking happens all of this is going to change again, at great expense, and some broadcasters are probably going to decide it's just not worth it. -GAWollman From Kaimbridge@Gmail.com Sun Oct 23 01:38:54 2016 From: Kaimbridge@Gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 05:38:54 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Transmission Issue Causes Outage For Some WBZ-TV Viewers Message-ID: <9b57575e-acbe-f561-650d-a0c0b556afdb@Gmail.com> I just wrote, > Besides WBZ:04-30 and WSBK:38-39, WGBX:44-43 is also off > (though WGBH:02-19 is on). > It is not likely an antenna issue, as?besides WGBH?WCVB:05-20 > and WYDN:48-47 are also there: > > https://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?cha2=69&type=3&list=2&dist=0.01&dlat2=42&mlat2=18&*slat2=37&dlon2=71&mlon2=14&slon2=14 Whoops, scratch that (missed Scott and Garrett?s subsequent posts! P=). ~Kaimbridge~ -- -- -- Wiki?Sites Contribution History Pages: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge math.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge wiki.gis.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge rosettacode.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From Kaimbridge@Gmail.com Sun Oct 23 01:31:42 2016 From: Kaimbridge@Gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 05:31:42 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Transmission Issue Causes Outage For Some WBZ-TV Viewers Message-ID: <50e6035c-55a6-f7b1-3959-30846b892613@Gmail.com> Bob DeMattia wrote, > Anybody know what this is about? > Not getting any reception at all on 4 or 38. > > http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/10/22/transmission-issue-causes-outage-for-some-wbz-tv-viewers/ Besides WBZ:04-30 and WSBK:38-39, WGBX:44-43 is also off (though WGBH:02-19 is on). It is not likely an antenna issue, as?besides WGBH?WCVB:05-20 and WYDN:48-47 are also there: https://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?cha2=69&type=3&list=2&dist=0.01&dlat2=42&mlat2=18&*slat2=37&dlon2=71&mlon2=14&slon2=14 ~Kaimbridge~ -- -- -- Wiki?Sites Contribution History Pages: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge math.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge wiki.gis.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge rosettacode.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu Sun Oct 23 11:09:10 2016 From: ssmyth@alumni.psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 11:09:10 -0400 Subject: 1460 Brockton Message-ID: Ed Perry purchased the license sometime in 2014 or 2015. I recall reading that he planned to revive the station as news/talk. Any idea when/if it might be back on? I haven't heard anything on my recent dial scans. TIA. -- Sent from my iPhone From danmurph@rcn.com Sun Oct 23 23:41:21 2016 From: danmurph@rcn.com (Dan Murphy) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 23:41:21 -0400 Subject: R.I.P. Leo Beranek Message-ID: An authority on acoustics and radio, as well as helping create the internet at BBN, this obit also mentions Beranek as one of the founders of WCVB without going into details. Could someone expand on his role there? http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/18/business/leo-beranek-dead.html From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Oct 24 00:55:49 2016 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 00:55:49 -0400 Subject: 1460 Brockton In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ed bought it in May of 2015 and since then silence. On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > Ed Perry purchased the license sometime in 2014 or 2015. I recall reading > that he planned to revive the station as news/talk. Any idea when/if it > might be back on? I haven't heard anything on my recent dial scans. TIA. > > -- > Sent from my iPhone > From mamros@mit.edu Mon Oct 24 08:40:13 2016 From: mamros@mit.edu (Shawn Mamros) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 12:40:13 +0000 Subject: R.I.P. Leo Beranek In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3AA2995FD42B2E48A2B762E850E68AA694EDE160@OC11expo28.exchange.mit.edu> Others may know more, but I found online this Harvard Crimson article. Leo Beranek is mentioned as being president of Boston Broadcasters Inc., the group that ultimately won the Channel 5 license. http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1970/11/21/court-takes-license-from-whdh-group/ ________________________________________ From: Boston-Radio-Interest [boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] on behalf of Dan Murphy [danmurph@rcn.com] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 11:41 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: R.I.P. Leo Beranek An authority on acoustics and radio, as well as helping create the internet at BBN, this obit also mentions Beranek as one of the founders of WCVB without going into details. Could someone expand on his role there? http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/18/business/leo-beranek-dead.html From jjlehmann@comcast.net Mon Oct 24 10:22:16 2016 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 10:22:16 -0400 Subject: 1460 Brockton In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It was put on the air with a wire antenna long enough to keep the license alive back in July or August. The previous 2 tower transmitter site (owned by American Tower) was torn down and was/is being sold. Ed is working on a new tower location on the other (west) side of route 24, but the process has been slow. He also purchased a FM translator for it, to be on 101.1, once the tower is built. Jeff Lehmann > On Oct 24, 2016, at 12:55 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > Ed bought it in May of 2015 and since then silence. > >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: >> >> Ed Perry purchased the license sometime in 2014 or 2015. I recall reading >> that he planned to revive the station as news/talk. Any idea when/if it >> might be back on? I haven't heard anything on my recent dial scans. TIA. >> >> -- >> Sent from my iPhone >> From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 22:32:01 2016 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 02:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: R.I.P. Leo Beranek References: <1100744870.102655.1477362721904.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1100744870.102655.1477362721904@mail.yahoo.com> >> Could someone expand on his role there? He was part of the group of local investors and community leaders that made up Boston Broadcasters Inc. They challenged the license of then WHDH-TV Ch 5 which had been operating on temporary 6 months licenses, since issues were raised about the manner in which they got their original CP. I don't know if Leo Beranek had any role at the TV station outside of the boardroom. But the strong board they had, had very high goals, and they all became very wealthy after their long battle. There is a great book that details how Boston Boradcasters, fought and won the right to operate channel 5. (It also details the attempts of Hal Clancy and the Boston Herald Traveler to discredit them, and used their newspaper to try to dig up dirt on the people who won the licence.) https://www.amazon.com/WCVB-TV-Boston-Greatest-Television-Station/dp/1939447119 D -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 10/23/16, Dan Murphy wrote: Subject: R.I.P. Leo Beranek To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Date: Sunday, October 23, 2016, 11:41 PM An authority on acoustics and radio, as well as helping create the internet at BBN, this obit also mentions Beranek as one of the founders of WCVB without going into details. Could someone expand on his role there? http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/18/business/leo-beranek-dead.html From tlmedia@intrstar.net Tue Oct 25 06:38:04 2016 From: tlmedia@intrstar.net (Ted Larsen) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 06:38:04 -0400 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: <1100744870.102655.1477362721904.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is the only text I could find in the "full header" of Don's blank email. I hope this helps. Ted >> ?Could someone expand on his role there? He was part of the group of local investors and community leaders that made up Boston Broadcasters Inc. They challenged the license of then WHDH-TV Ch 5 which had been operating on temporary 6 months licenses, since issues were raised about the manner in which they got their original CP. I don't know if Leo Beranek had any role at the TV station outside of the boardroom. ?But the strong board they had, had very high goals, and they all became very wealthy after their long battle. ? There is a great book that details how Boston Boradcasters, fought and won the right to operate channel 5. ?(It also details the attempts of Hal Clancy and the Boston Herald Traveler to discredit them, and used their newspaper to try to dig up dirt on the people who won the licence.) https://www.amazon.com/WCVB-TV-Boston-Greatest-Television-Station/dp/1939447119 D On 10/24/2016 11:30:11 PM, D. A. via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: From astelle.donald@gmail.com Mon Oct 24 23:53:30 2016 From: astelle.donald@gmail.com (Don Astelle) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 23:53:30 -0400 Subject: 1460AM Brockton Message-ID: >>bIt was put on the air with a wire antenna long enough to keep the license alive back in July or August. What programming did he put on this "long wire? From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Oct 25 15:26:20 2016 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 15:26:20 -0400 Subject: 1460AM Brockton In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00dc01d22ef5$aac9e8f0$005dbad0$@comcast.net> It was simulcasting 95.9 WATD-FM. Jeff Lehmann -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Don Astelle Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 11:54 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org Subject: 1460AM Brockton >>bIt was put on the air with a wire antenna long enough to keep the license alive back in July or August. What programming did he put on this "long wire? From richard@chonak.com Wed Oct 26 06:16:52 2016 From: richard@chonak.com (=?utf-8?B?UmljaGFyZCBDaG9uYWs=?=) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 10:16:52 GMT Subject: Transmission Issue Causes Outage For Some WBZ-TV Viewers Message-ID: <000f4244.6ce46670105f13d3@chonak.com> Channels 4, 44, etc. are back on the air. ------ Original message------From: Garrett WollmanDate: Sun, Oct 23, 2016 1:11 AMTo: Bob DeMattia;Cc: B-R-I;Subject:Re: Transmission Issue Causes Outage For Some WBZ-TV Viewers < said:> The plan apparently is to move WGBH off the lower master antenna down to> the WCVB aux, and then use the lower master temporarily for WBZ, WCVB, WSBK> and WGBX, which usually use the upper master.And the reason 'GBH has to move for this to work is that WGBH is on RFchannel 19, and WCVB is on RF 20; the combiner system can't provideenough isolation to run first-adjacent channels off the same antenna.(That's why there are two broadband UHF antennas in the first place --this was an issue during the transition as well, with WGBX on analog44 and digital 43.)And of course once the repacking happens all of this is going tochange again, at great expense, and some broadcasters are probablygoing to decide it's just not worth it.-GAWollman