From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Jun 5 09:10:29 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:10:29 -0400 Subject: Salem buying WMKI 1260 Message-ID: http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/93236/salem-acquires-disney-stations-in-boston-dallas/ Salem Media is buying WMKI 1260 as well as a station in Dallas. There is already speculation they may change to conservative talk as the Answer, as they just did in Pittsburgh (with the usual roster of Bennett, Gallagher, Praeger, Hewitt, Medved--in Pittsburgh they do have one local-to-them talker, Rose Tennant). But would they? It didn't work out for them on 1150 here. The signal's halfway decent for some; would it make money or just be a place for them to spread their political agenda? And...would they take Rush? If they can afford him. WRKO and WMEX can't... From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Jun 5 10:51:56 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 10:51:56 -0400 Subject: Salem buying WMKI 1260 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Don't know but Mark of BRW brought up good point--they could put Christian teaching on 1260 and make 590 The Answer. Remember the days of a strong 590 signal for news then sports? For that matter, WEEI did pretty well on 850...(yeah, that was _then_) despite now getting horrible ratings running ESPN there. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > $500K for 1260? I am curious if Bob Bittner had a chance to kick the > tires for that price. > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > >> >> http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/93236/salem-acquires-disney-stations-in-boston-dallas/ >> >> Salem Media is buying WMKI 1260 as well as a station in Dallas. There is >> already speculation they may change to conservative talk as the Answer, as >> they just did in Pittsburgh (with the usual >> roster of Bennett, Gallagher, Praeger, Hewitt, Medved--in Pittsburgh they >> do have one local-to-them >> talker, Rose Tennant). But would they? It didn't work out for them on 1150 >> here. The signal's >> halfway decent for some; would it make money or just be a place for them >> to >> spread their political >> agenda? >> >> And...would they take Rush? If they can afford him. WRKO and WMEX can't... >> > > From scott@fybush.com Fri Jun 5 11:00:55 2015 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 11:00:55 -0400 Subject: Salem buying WMKI 1260 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5571B9A7.8050208@fybush.com> I can't speak for Bob Bittner, but I strongly suspect he wouldn't much want 1260 even if they were giving it away for free. By day, he covers just as much ground (maybe even more) on 740 with 250 watts as 1260 does with 5000 watts. Yes, it would add a viable night signal to parts of the market, but at a considerable cost: spending most of his time in Maine, I'd think the last thing Bob would want is the time and expense involved in maintaining an aging directional array. As for Salem, they actually make money off the Christian teaching, whereas it appears they lose money on "The Answer" nationally. If they can get 1260 at a bargain-basement price to provide a top-10-market clearance for the Answer lineup, great. But I doubt they'd make the swap to put Answer on the bigger 590 signal. On 6/5/2015 10:51 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > Don't know but Mark of BRW brought up good point--they could put Christian > teaching on 1260 and make 590 The Answer. Remember the days of a strong 590 > signal for news then sports? For that matter, WEEI did pretty well on > 850...(yeah, that was _then_) despite now getting horrible ratings > running ESPN there. > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > >> $500K for 1260? I am curious if Bob Bittner had a chance to kick the >> tires for that price. >> >> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: >> >>> >>> http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/93236/salem-acquires-disney-stations-in-boston-dallas/ >>> >>> Salem Media is buying WMKI 1260 as well as a station in Dallas. There is >>> already speculation they may change to conservative talk as the Answer, as >>> they just did in Pittsburgh (with the usual >>> roster of Bennett, Gallagher, Praeger, Hewitt, Medved--in Pittsburgh they >>> do have one local-to-them >>> talker, Rose Tennant). But would they? It didn't work out for them on 1150 >>> here. The signal's >>> halfway decent for some; would it make money or just be a place for them >>> to >>> spread their political >>> agenda? >>> >>> And...would they take Rush? If they can afford him. WRKO and WMEX can't... >>> >> >> From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Jun 5 10:31:01 2015 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 10:31:01 -0400 Subject: Salem buying WMKI 1260 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: $500K for 1260? I am curious if Bob Bittner had a chance to kick the tires for that price. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > > http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/93236/salem-acquires-disney-stations-in-boston-dallas/ > > Salem Media is buying WMKI 1260 as well as a station in Dallas. There is > already speculation they may change to conservative talk as the Answer, as > they just did in Pittsburgh (with the usual > roster of Bennett, Gallagher, Praeger, Hewitt, Medved--in Pittsburgh they > do have one local-to-them > talker, Rose Tennant). But would they? It didn't work out for them on 1150 > here. The signal's > halfway decent for some; would it make money or just be a place for them to > spread their political > agenda? > > And...would they take Rush? If they can afford him. WRKO and WMEX can't... > From 011010001@interpring.com Fri Jun 5 12:56:25 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Salem buying WMKI 1260 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I wonder if they could be persuaded to shut off the IBOC. Rob From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Jun 5 16:07:24 2015 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:07:24 -0400 Subject: Salem buying WMKI 1260 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8A4A37FA-9976-4E9E-9AC0-6E55AD318E90@comcast.net> I don't think Salem runs HD on any of their AM stations. Probably a good bet that it goes away on 1260. Does anyone know if it's still running on any of the other former Disney stations they've bought like 990/Orlando, 590/Atlanta, or 1250/Pittsburgh? Jeff Lehmann > On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > I wonder if they could be persuaded to shut off the IBOC. > > > Rob From Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com Fri Jun 5 17:10:47 2015 From: Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com (Don) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 17:10:47 -0400 Subject: Salem buying WMKI 1260 References: Message-ID: <9C64E0181AD14207B2B2650F051D1AD9@ownerd8aa55a4d> From: "Kevin Vahey" > $500K for 1260? I am curious if Bob Bittner had a chance to kick the > tires > for that price. I remember Gr. Media paid $2.5 Million for 1150AM back in 1985(?), and 1260 was always thought to have the better signal between the two of them. 1150AM is one of the crapiest signals licensed to Boston proper. There were a lot of people who I would have guessed would be interested in a AM Boston full-time property at that price. Bob Bittner is one....I would have thought Charles Clemons would have expressed an interest...but I think he is only interested in what he can get for free. From 011010001@interpring.com Fri Jun 5 19:32:25 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 19:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Salem buying WMKI 1260 In-Reply-To: <8A4A37FA-9976-4E9E-9AC0-6E55AD318E90@comcast.net> References: <8A4A37FA-9976-4E9E-9AC0-6E55AD318E90@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Jun 2015, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > I don't think Salem runs HD on any of their AM stations. Probably a good > bet that it goes away on 1260. The folks at WTSN in Dover, NH would be delighted to hear that news. Rob From scott@fybush.com Fri Jun 5 19:39:50 2015 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 19:39:50 -0400 Subject: Salem buying WMKI 1260 In-Reply-To: References: <8A4A37FA-9976-4E9E-9AC0-6E55AD318E90@comcast.net> Message-ID: <55723346.6000102@fybush.com> On 6/5/2015 7:32 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > > > On Fri, 5 Jun 2015, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > >> I don't think Salem runs HD on any of their AM stations. Probably a >> good bet that it goes away on 1260. > > The folks at WTSN in Dover, NH would be delighted to hear that news. At the price 1260 went for, it might well have been worth it for WTSN to buy 1260 and do some signal reconfiguration. There's probably more money to be made with a well-respected AM in Dover than with a forgotten frequency in Boston these days. From Jibguy@aol.com Fri Jun 5 19:40:40 2015 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 19:40:40 -0400 Subject: Salem buying WMKI 1260 Message-ID: <16b9bf.700cc134.42a38d78@aol.com> And 1250 in Manchester, NH, too! ----------BB In a message dated 6/5/2015 7:35:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 011010001@interpring.com writes: On Fri, 5 Jun 2015, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > I don't think Salem runs HD on any of their AM stations. Probably a good > bet that it goes away on 1260. The folks at WTSN in Dover, NH would be delighted to hear that news. Rob From Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com Sat Jun 6 01:15:02 2015 From: Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com (Don) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 01:15:02 -0400 Subject: WMKI...and other AM's....? References: <8A4A37FA-9976-4E9E-9AC0-6E55AD318E90@comcast.net> Message-ID: Looking at the previous sale price of 1260AM and the selling price now makes me wonder about the rest of the AM band. Anyone recall how much Entercom paid for 850AM? Any idea what it would bring now? Basically you would be buying a stick...on a dying band, with no local programming, no ratings, and no billing. Anyone want to speculate? From Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com Sat Jun 6 02:20:40 2015 From: Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com (Don) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 02:20:40 -0400 Subject: DX...Skip and dead areas......questions Message-ID: <649280F6FA1145898FFFEFCDCA419014@ownerd8aa55a4d> >From what I understand, stations with big DX signals like the former clear channels, maintain their groundwave/local signal at night...and as you move away from that area there is a "dead zone" before the Skywave/Skip/DX signal coverage begins. WBZ claims a big signal at night...but if you drive due west from Boston, you will find that after Worcester, WBZ's signal is fluttering and unreliable. But when you get to Albany it's pretty strong and reliable. Someone from this list (I think it was Martin Waters) was in CT, and said he couldn't get a decent signal from WBZ day or night. When I think about it, WBZ has a lot of listeners in Mass, NH, and even RI...but not so much in Vermont, W Mass, and CT. Which is strange (to me anyway) for a station that covers 38 states. Here's the question: Does the area of the "dead zone" depend on the frequency of the station? i.e....I mentioned that WBZ (1030AM) is pretty reliable in Albany and Upstate NY. However, WGY (810AM (which is directional towards New England) is occaisionally listenable, but not a reliable night signal. You would think it would be pretty equal going both ways. Does the difference between 810 and 1030 alter the area of the "dead zone" between ground wave and sky wave? Thanks for your help...this is something I've never understood fully. ;-) D From Jibguy@aol.com Sat Jun 6 11:20:56 2015 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 11:20:56 -0400 Subject: 1260 - was (no subject) Message-ID: <177da8.35921a1.42a469d8@aol.com> When I talked to them over 6 months ago, I was told "a couple million" or "a few million" or something like that, for 1260. Looks like there were no takers for that! ----BB In a message dated 6/5/2015 5:57:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org writes: -----Original Message----- From: "Don" To: "Kevin Vahey" , "Bob Nelson" Cc: "\(newsgroup\) Boston-Radio-Interest" Subject: Re: Salem buying WMKI 1260 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 17:10:47 -0400 From: "Kevin Vahey" > $500K for 1260? I am curious if Bob Bittner had a chance to kick the > tires > for that price. I remember Gr. Media paid $2.5 Million for 1150AM back in 1985(?), and 1260 was always thought to have the better signal between the two of them. 1150AM is one of the crapiest signals licensed to Boston proper. There were a lot of people who I would have guessed would be interested in a AM Boston full-time property at that price. Bob Bittner is one....I would have thought Charles Clemons would have expressed an interest...but I think he is only interested in what he can get for free. From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Jun 6 13:18:44 2015 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 13:18:44 -0400 Subject: 1260 - was (no subject) In-Reply-To: <177da8.35921a1.42a469d8@aol.com> References: <177da8.35921a1.42a469d8@aol.com> Message-ID: 1150 was doomed as a Top 40 station in the early 60's because the signal was non-existent at night on the North Shore. My understanding is John Shepard was content with 1260's signal as his WEAN (790) Providence filled in some holes south of Boston and WAAB Worcester did the same west of the city. Donna can shed some light on thi After WWII, General Tire was blindsided by the Herald-Traveler greatly improving the 850 signal on then WHDH and lost both baseball teams to 850. WNAC would get the Braves back in 1950 but the 1260 signal was so bad that General Tire looked for options and finally bought WLAW (680) but it was too late as the Braves moved in 1953. Still in the mid 1960's WEZE was a major player in Boston radio and at times flirted with being #1 in the city. It all came crashing down when WJIB came along at 96.9. Bob - if you had been offered 1260 at $500K would you have considered it? On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:20 AM, wrote: > When I talked to them over 6 months ago, I was told "a couple million" or "a > few million" or something like that, for 1260. Looks like there were no > takers for that! > ----BB > > > In a message dated 6/5/2015 5:57:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org writes: > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Don" > To: "Kevin Vahey" , "Bob Nelson" > Cc: "\(newsgroup\) Boston-Radio-Interest" > > Subject: Re: Salem buying WMKI 1260 > Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 17:10:47 -0400 > > > > From: "Kevin Vahey" > > >> $500K for 1260? I am curious if Bob Bittner had a chance to kick the >> tires >> for that price. > > I remember Gr. Media paid $2.5 Million for 1150AM back in 1985(?), and 1260 > was always thought to have the better signal between the two of them. > > 1150AM is one of the crapiest signals licensed to Boston proper. > > There were a lot of people who I would have guessed would be interested in a > AM Boston full-time property at that price. Bob Bittner is one....I would > have thought Charles Clemons would have expressed an interest...but I think > he is only interested in what he can get for free. > From map@mapinternet.com Sat Jun 6 15:55:16 2015 From: map@mapinternet.com (M.Casey) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 15:55:16 -0400 Subject: DX...Skip and dead areas......questions In-Reply-To: <649280F6FA1145898FFFEFCDCA419014@ownerd8aa55a4d> References: <649280F6FA1145898FFFEFCDCA419014@ownerd8aa55a4d> Message-ID: <3ADA3AC19B9C4F3EBE3233F9B88C9A0C@laptop> Hi Don, I guess you could call it a "Dead Zone", although, the area could more correctly be described as a signal cancelling zone, or just a weak signal area. There's all sorts of variables involved, and I don't know all of those, and I don't have a degree, but here's a few of those variables that I've experienced and some that I have talked over with AM engineers much smarter than I. From what I've seen as a AM DX'er since the early 60's is that the zone is affected mostly by the type of transmitting antenna the station has and the day to day and seasonal variances in the atmosphere. Not in any order. A. Signal Cancelling-- The words "signal cancelling" could be thought of as somewhat of a misnomer, but most times there is some, usually partial cancellation of signal received at a location where both the groundwave and skywave signals are present. B. AM propagation variances-- The atmospheric influences. Some times there is no dead zone at all, and skywave will be so strong that it is received well within the station's main groundwave area. Years ago, I heard skywave a number of times on WTIC AM, (1080 khz) within sight of the towers at only 22 miles away, and within a reasonably strong groundwave contour, 24 hours a day. C. AM Antenna design variances-- The basic design will determine the angle of radiation. And that angle will, in a large part, determine where the strongest reception areas are. (Note the exception of signal propagation over salt water and coastal areas.) This could change in differing antenna systems. There are many 50kw stations that have a very good skywave signals, and some not so good, even when taking into account directionality issues. The basic efficiency of an AM antenna system is a major factor also. Maybe some of our Radio Engineering friends can weight in on this. (Goes along with (D.) below--skywave limiting antennas) D. AM Skywave Limiting Antennas-- A number of years ago designs for skywave limiting antennas were popularized. I don't know how many were built, but they were advertised as being able to increase signal strength in the main service area at the expense of skywave. For the sales dept,, if it worked, it would really make sense--almost no stations made money on the skywave audience, and electrical noise was increasing and folks moving away from AM because of the increased noise, so any increase in signal to get over the noise would translate into more listeners. A Hartford area engineer friend told me that WTIC AM rebuilt their antennas to this design about 20 years ago, but the performance did not match the expected. Maybe WGY has one of these also. I have also found that WGY does not have a very good skywave signal anywhere I've been. I do not believe that most of the major New York City stations have these antennas. WFAN, WABC, WCBS, WINS, 1050, 1560 all appear to be as strong on skywave as they were in the 1960's & 70's--some maybe stronger. E. Frequency-- With available AM broadcast band receivers, skywave is usually stronger, the higher the frequency. At night, AM BCB skywave is usually present from 530 right up to 1700, but it's nearly always a little stronger as you get toward 1700. That "dead" zone might be affected by the frequency, but I haven't really seen that to any extent. Just my opinion, but I don't think that the difference between 810 and 1030 alters the "dead zone" to any large degree, and probably not at all. I think the difference between those 2 stations is mostly due to antenna system design differences. F. The listener's radio and antenna-- Makes a huge difference. Car radios are almost always better all around, and better at night also. I listen to WBZ AM for at least a few minutes, almost every evening around 10pm on a decent Sangean portable radio. The signal is usually lousy--just noise/cancelling/fading making a mess. But, I put up with it because I want to keep up with what's going on in Boston and what Dan Rea has for a discussion subject. Sometimes, it so bad I just give up trying to listen. At 10pm, If I am in my car in near home the WBZ signal is always much better than on the home radio, and it is reasonably listenable, but that is a function of both the car radio and the car radio antenna. I'm in that ZONE you are talking about--85 miles west of Boston, just east of Springfield--probably not far from Martin. The day signal isn't stronger, it's just that there aren't 2 signals fighting it out, so it's easier on the ears to deal with a slight constant low static that the night mess. Daytime, Without the skywave fighting/cancelling, the HD signal will pop in and out in this area east of Springfield, but never stay in for long. Most nights, WBZ's groundwave signal is very reliable to about 10 miles east of Worcester. I do not think WBZ ever incorporated any anti-skywave elements into their system at Hull, but maybe one of their engineers will comment. WBZ certainly has one of the best skywave signals in the country. But part of that may be due to their directionality toward the West. WWL in New Orleans has a similar situation--on the coast and directional inland toward the rest of the USA. In WWL's case, directional toward the north. You might think the 2 Los Angeles big stations, KFI at 640 and KNX at 1070 would use directional antennas toward the east since they are on the coast, but that's not the case--they are omni. Maybe if they didn't waste the signal on the fishes, they'd have a better night skywave signal to the east. But, maybe the omni signal gave them better coverage up and down the coast--where more listeners lived when those stations were designed in the 1930's and 1940's. WBT in Charlotte, NC, at 1110, also has one of the best skywave signals. It's directional NNE/SSW with null to the West. It's about as reliable as skywave can be and the strongest skywave that can be heard in both the Northeast and Southeast most nights. So, if you go to Florida sometime, try comparing WBT's signal in Orlando or Melbourne to its signal in Boston or Hartford. Even the best skywave signal is not the greatest thing to behold on any AM station. Although somewhat reliable in some areas 100-700 miles from a 50kw station, it still fades down often. The skywave signal from different stations seems to be the strongest at different distances, so I think that goes back to (C.) WBZ's skywave seems to be strongest at about 200-400 miles out. I've received the HD signal at night for extended periods at these distances, but not very often at 600 miles even though the basic skywave signal at 600 miles is much, much better than any night WBZ signal here near Springfield. Here's an interesting note. It's rather rare night, but every so often, skywave almost completely disappears. If I remember correctly, that happens, sometimes, when there is a strong aurora. Then you can hear some local and regional stations that are usually covered up by skywave signals of other stations. YMMV Mark K1MAP -----Original Message----- From: Don Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 2:20 AM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: DX...Skip and dead areas......questions >From what I understand, stations with big DX signals like the former clear channels, maintain their groundwave/local signal at night...and as you move away from that area there is a "dead zone" before the Skywave/Skip/DX signal coverage begins. WBZ claims a big signal at night...but if you drive due west from Boston, you will find that after Worcester, WBZ's signal is fluttering and unreliable. But when you get to Albany it's pretty strong and reliable. Someone from this list (I think it was Martin Waters) was in CT, and said he couldn't get a decent signal from WBZ day or night. When I think about it, WBZ has a lot of listeners in Mass, NH, and even RI...but not so much in Vermont, W Mass, and CT. Which is strange (to me anyway) for a station that covers 38 states. Here's the question: Does the area of the "dead zone" depend on the frequency of the station? i.e....I mentioned that WBZ (1030AM) is pretty reliable in Albany and Upstate NY. However, WGY (810AM (which is directional towards New England) is occaisionally listenable, but not a reliable night signal. You would think it would be pretty equal going both ways. Does the difference between 810 and 1030 alter the area of the "dead zone" between ground wave and sky wave? Thanks for your help...this is something I've never understood fully. ;-) D ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4800 / Virus Database: 4311/9957 - Release Date: 06/06/15 From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Jun 6 17:32:32 2015 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 17:32:32 -0400 Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <557366F0.6040400@attorneyross.com> When I was a student at UMass Amherst, I found that WBZ was quite listenable in the daytime, but more difficult at night. As I've driven to and from Amherst area from time to time since, I've continued to find the daytime signal useable, but not the nighttime signal. I've often found myself wishing that WBZA were still around. And I suppose that was why it continued to exist for so long. On 6/6/2015 3:07 AM, Don via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: > WBZ claims a big signal at night...but if you drive due west from > Boston, you will find that after Worcester, WBZ's signal is fluttering > and unreliable. But when you get to Albany it's pretty strong and > reliable. > > Someone from this list (I think it was Martin Waters) was in CT, and > said he couldn't get a decent signal from WBZ day or night. When I > think about it, WBZ has a lot of listeners in Mass, NH, and even > RI...but not so much in Vermont, W Mass, and CT. Which is strange (to > me anyway) for a station that covers 38 states. > > Here's the question: Does the area of the "dead zone" depend on the > frequency of the station? i.e....I mentioned that WBZ (1030AM) is > pretty reliable in Albany and Upstate NY. However, WGY (810AM (which > is directional towards New England) is occaisionally listenable, but > not a reliable night signal. You would think it would be pretty equal > going both ways. > > Does the difference between 810 and 1030 alter the area of the "dead > zone" between ground wave and sky wave? > > Thanks for your help...this is something I've never understood fully. ;-) -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From Jibguy@aol.com Sat Jun 6 21:08:12 2015 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 21:08:12 -0400 Subject: 1260 - was (no subject) Message-ID: <1e24da.604210ef.42a4f37c@aol.com> Yes, would have looked into that rather seriously. Boston needs a rock 'n roll oldies station 1954-1972, doesn't it? ----BB In a message dated 6/6/2015 1:18:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kvahey@gmail.com writes: 1150 was doomed as a Top 40 station in the early 60's because the signal was non-existent at night on the North Shore. My understanding is John Shepard was content with 1260's signal as his WEAN (790) Providence filled in some holes south of Boston and WAAB Worcester did the same west of the city. Donna can shed some light on thi After WWII, General Tire was blindsided by the Herald-Traveler greatly improving the 850 signal on then WHDH and lost both baseball teams to 850. WNAC would get the Braves back in 1950 but the 1260 signal was so bad that General Tire looked for options and finally bought WLAW (680) but it was too late as the Braves moved in 1953. Still in the mid 1960's WEZE was a major player in Boston radio and at times flirted with being #1 in the city. It all came crashing down when WJIB came along at 96.9. Bob - if you had been offered 1260 at $500K would you have considered it? On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:20 AM, wrote: > When I talked to them over 6 months ago, I was told "a couple million" or "a > few million" or something like that, for 1260. Looks like there were no > takers for that! > ----BB > > > In a message dated 6/5/2015 5:57:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org writes: > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Don" > To: "Kevin Vahey" , "Bob Nelson" > Cc: "\(newsgroup\) Boston-Radio-Interest" > > Subject: Re: Salem buying WMKI 1260 > Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 17:10:47 -0400 > > > > From: "Kevin Vahey" > > >> $500K for 1260? I am curious if Bob Bittner had a chance to kick the >> tires >> for that price. > > I remember Gr. Media paid $2.5 Million for 1150AM back in 1985(?), and 1260 > was always thought to have the better signal between the two of them. > > 1150AM is one of the crapiest signals licensed to Boston proper. > > There were a lot of people who I would have guessed would be interested in a > AM Boston full-time property at that price. Bob Bittner is one....I would > have thought Charles Clemons would have expressed an interest...but I think > he is only interested in what he can get for free. > From Jibguy@aol.com Sat Jun 6 22:29:45 2015 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 22:29:45 -0400 Subject: 1260 - was (no subject) Message-ID: <1e36e2.561469fd.42a50690@aol.com> Probably a lot of truth to that. "and hey, we'll give you another half-million if you toss in Boston". ----BB In a message dated 6/6/2015 10:27:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jjlehmann@comcast.net writes: Seems like in the end, it has ended up as a package deal, since Salem has picked up quite a few of the former Disney stations at this point. Maybe totally a guess here, but I'd say they wouldn't have given it to anyone else for that price. Jeff Lehmann > On Jun 6, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Jibguy@aol.com wrote: > > Yes, would have looked into that rather seriously. Boston needs a rock 'n > roll oldies station 1954-1972, doesn't it? > ----BB > > > > In a message dated 6/6/2015 1:18:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > kvahey@gmail.com writes: > > 1150 was doomed as a Top 40 station in the early 60's because the > signal was non-existent at night on the North Shore. > > My understanding is John Shepard was content with 1260's signal as his > WEAN (790) Providence filled in some holes south of Boston and WAAB > Worcester did the same west of the city. Donna can shed some light on > thi > After WWII, General Tire was blindsided by the Herald-Traveler greatly > improving the 850 signal on then WHDH and lost both baseball teams to > 850. WNAC would get the Braves back in 1950 but the 1260 signal was so > bad that General Tire looked for options and finally bought WLAW (680) > but it was too late as the Braves moved in 1953. > > Still in the mid 1960's WEZE was a major player in Boston radio and at > times flirted with being #1 in the city. It all came crashing down > when WJIB came along at 96.9. > > Bob - if you had been offered 1260 at $500K would you have considered it? > > > > >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:20 AM, wrote: >> When I talked to them over 6 months ago, I was told "a couple million" > or "a >> few million" or something like that, for 1260. Looks like there were > no >> takers for that! >> ----BB >> >> >> In a message dated 6/5/2015 5:57:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org writes: >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Don" >> To: "Kevin Vahey" , "Bob Nelson" > >> Cc: "\(newsgroup\) Boston-Radio-Interest" >> >> Subject: Re: Salem buying WMKI 1260 >> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 17:10:47 -0400 >> >> >> >> From: "Kevin Vahey" >> >> >>> $500K for 1260? I am curious if Bob Bittner had a chance to kick the >>> tires >>> for that price. >> >> I remember Gr. Media paid $2.5 Million for 1150AM back in 1985(?), and > 1260 >> was always thought to have the better signal between the two of them. >> >> 1150AM is one of the crapiest signals licensed to Boston proper. >> >> There were a lot of people who I would have guessed would be interested > in a >> AM Boston full-time property at that price. Bob Bittner is one....I > would >> have thought Charles Clemons would have expressed an interest...but I > think >> he is only interested in what he can get for free. >> > From markwa1ion@aol.com Sat Jun 6 22:11:33 2015 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 22:11:33 -0400 Subject: DX...Skip and dead areas......questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14dcbc98c5e-7db1-c6ca@webprd-a63.mail.aol.com> Skip zone is typically where groundwave reaches its outer limit of effectiveness (under 54 dBu / 0.5 mV/m) and skywave strength is not up to the full first-hop level typical of 200-600 miles. Over poor soil characteristic of New England inland areas, the groundwave of even a 50 kW station tends to peter out in the 100 mile range low band and considerably less than that high band. A vertical antenna puts less power up at the high angles more than 45 degrees off the horizon than lower down. Also when the take-off angle is steep, the signal is more likely either to pass through the ionosphere about 75 miles up or be absorbed by it rather than cleanly bouncing back as a ray of light off a mirror would. That's why a Boston signal that is fair in metro-west and gasping for air in Springfield is then boomingly-loud out around Utica and Rochester, NY. In partial over-water situations where strong groundwave does extend out to 200 miles, such as some of the NYC stations here on Cape Cod, night reception sometimes gets complicated by the fact that skywave and groundwave are comparable strength and, as the phase relationship slides through the +/- 180 degree shift region, deep fades occur - worse than if on an all-land route where the groundwave would be an order of magnitude weaker than the skywave. As far as the quality of WBZ reception in Schenectady versus WGY reception in Hull, it's "apples versus oranges." WBZ is running a DA with gain and the first 7 miles westward over salt water. WGY is omni and in a sandy pitch-pine belt like Plymouth, MA west of Rte. 3, a big attenuation pad. No comparison. WBZ wins. Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA << >From what I understand, stations with big DX signals like the former clear channels, maintain their groundwave/local signal at night...and as you move away from that area there is a "dead zone" before the Skywave/Skip/DX signal coverage begins. WBZ claims a big signal at night...but if you drive due west from Boston, you will find that after Worcester, WBZ's signal is fluttering and unreliable. But when you get to Albany it's pretty strong and reliable. Someone from this list (I think it was Martin Waters) was in CT, and said he couldn't get a decent signal from WBZ day or night. When I think about it, WBZ has a lot of listeners in Mass, NH, and even RI...but not so much in Vermont, W Mass, and CT. Which is strange (to me anyway) for a station that covers 38 states. Here's the question: Does the area of the "dead zone" depend on the frequency of the station? i.e....I mentioned that WBZ (1030AM) is pretty reliable in Albany and Upstate NY. However, WGY (810AM (which is directional towards New England) is occaisionally listenable, but not a reliable night signal. You would think it would be pretty equal going both ways. Does the difference between 810 and 1030 alter the area of the "dead zone" between ground wave and sky wave? Thanks for your help...this is something I've never understood fully. ;-) D >> From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Jun 6 22:27:25 2015 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 22:27:25 -0400 Subject: 1260 - was (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1e24da.604210ef.42a4f37c@aol.com> References: <1e24da.604210ef.42a4f37c@aol.com> Message-ID: Seems like in the end, it has ended up as a package deal, since Salem has picked up quite a few of the former Disney stations at this point. Maybe totally a guess here, but I'd say they wouldn't have given it to anyone else for that price. Jeff Lehmann > On Jun 6, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Jibguy@aol.com wrote: > > Yes, would have looked into that rather seriously. Boston needs a rock 'n > roll oldies station 1954-1972, doesn't it? > ----BB > > > > In a message dated 6/6/2015 1:18:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > kvahey@gmail.com writes: > > 1150 was doomed as a Top 40 station in the early 60's because the > signal was non-existent at night on the North Shore. > > My understanding is John Shepard was content with 1260's signal as his > WEAN (790) Providence filled in some holes south of Boston and WAAB > Worcester did the same west of the city. Donna can shed some light on > thi > After WWII, General Tire was blindsided by the Herald-Traveler greatly > improving the 850 signal on then WHDH and lost both baseball teams to > 850. WNAC would get the Braves back in 1950 but the 1260 signal was so > bad that General Tire looked for options and finally bought WLAW (680) > but it was too late as the Braves moved in 1953. > > Still in the mid 1960's WEZE was a major player in Boston radio and at > times flirted with being #1 in the city. It all came crashing down > when WJIB came along at 96.9. > > Bob - if you had been offered 1260 at $500K would you have considered it? > > > > >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:20 AM, wrote: >> When I talked to them over 6 months ago, I was told "a couple million" > or "a >> few million" or something like that, for 1260. Looks like there were > no >> takers for that! >> ----BB >> >> >> In a message dated 6/5/2015 5:57:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org writes: >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Don" >> To: "Kevin Vahey" , "Bob Nelson" > >> Cc: "\(newsgroup\) Boston-Radio-Interest" >> >> Subject: Re: Salem buying WMKI 1260 >> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 17:10:47 -0400 >> >> >> >> From: "Kevin Vahey" >> >> >>> $500K for 1260? I am curious if Bob Bittner had a chance to kick the >>> tires >>> for that price. >> >> I remember Gr. Media paid $2.5 Million for 1150AM back in 1985(?), and > 1260 >> was always thought to have the better signal between the two of them. >> >> 1150AM is one of the crapiest signals licensed to Boston proper. >> >> There were a lot of people who I would have guessed would be interested > in a >> AM Boston full-time property at that price. Bob Bittner is one....I > would >> have thought Charles Clemons would have expressed an interest...but I > think >> he is only interested in what he can get for free. >> > From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Jun 6 23:02:27 2015 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 23:02:27 -0400 Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5573B443.8000504@attorneyross.com> Well, I'd certainly listen a lot. On 6/6/2015 9:42 PM, Bob Bittner via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: > Yes, would have looked into that rather seriously. Boston needs a rock 'n > roll oldies station 1954-1972, doesn't it? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Jun 6 23:07:56 2015 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 23:07:56 -0400 Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5573B58C.10008@attorneyross.com> And how much does the power of the signal affect things? As I said, I got a useable signal for WBZ in the daytime in Amherst, but only sometimes at night in the dorm. When driving, I think the fact that I was in a moving vehicle made things worse, and the constantly changing nature of the reception led me to tune elsewhere. In fact, as I recall, I found the entire AM band unusable while driving home at night from Amherst until I got close enough to Boston. WGY came in well in Amherst. So what does WPTR have that made it reach Boston so well back in the day? On 6/6/2015 10:44 PM, Mark Connelly via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: > kip zone is typically where groundwave reaches its outer limit of effectiveness (under 54 dBu / 0.5 mV/m) and skywave strength is not up to the full first-hop level typical of 200-600 miles. > > Over poor soil characteristic of New England inland areas, the groundwave of even a 50 kW station tends to peter out in the 100 mile range low band and considerably less than that high band. > > A vertical antenna puts less power up at the high angles more than 45 degrees off the horizon than lower down. Also when the take-off angle is steep, the signal is more likely either to pass through the ionosphere about 75 miles up or be absorbed by it rather than cleanly bouncing back as a ray of light off a mirror would. > > That's why a Boston signal that is fair in metro-west and gasping for air in Springfield is then boomingly-loud out around Utica and Rochester, NY. > > In partial over-water situations where strong groundwave does extend out to 200 miles, such as some of the NYC stations here on Cape Cod, night reception sometimes gets complicated by the fact that skywave and groundwave are comparable strength and, as the phase relationship slides through the ? 180 degree shift region, deep fades occur - worse than if on an all-land route where the groundwave would be an order of magnitude weaker than the skywave. > > As far as the quality of WBZ reception in Schenectady versus WGY reception in Hull, it's "apples versus oranges." WBZ is running a DA with gain and the first 7 miles westward over salt water. WGY is omni and in a sandy pitch-pine belt like Plymouth, MA west of Rte. 3, a big attenuation pad. No comparison. WBZ wins. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Jun 7 00:29:13 2015 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 00:29:13 -0400 Subject: In-Reply-To: <5573B58C.10008@attorneyross.com> References: <5573B58C.10008@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Simple - WPTR was beaming 50K due east from Colonie, NY. At night you had trouble hearing them in Schenectady. Same applied to WKBW, CKLW and WCFL to name 3. WBZ has always been iffy around Springfield which explains why Westinghouse kept WBZA on as long as the could but turned the license back to the FCC in 1962 to allow them to buy WINS New York http://americanradiohistory.com/Archive-BC/BC-1962/1962-08-06-BC.pdf scroll to page 48 On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:07 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > And how much does the power of the signal affect things? As I said, I got a > useable signal for WBZ in the daytime in Amherst, but only sometimes at > night in the dorm. When driving, I think the fact that I was in a moving > vehicle made things worse, and the constantly changing nature of the > reception led me to tune elsewhere. In fact, as I recall, I found the > entire AM band unusable while driving home at night from Amherst until I got > close enough to Boston. > > WGY came in well in Amherst. > > So what does WPTR have that made it reach Boston so well back in the day? From tlmedia@intrstar.net Sun Jun 7 09:57:16 2015 From: tlmedia@intrstar.net (Ted Larsen) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 09:57:16 -0400 Subject: Radio In 1949 Message-ID: <349877D93A0D46438791722F89B80747@OwnerPC> Here?s a link that might interest the group. The clip art is amusing, especially the ad for the Yankee Network. http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-BC/BC-1948/1948-08-09-BC.pdf From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Jun 7 11:24:50 2015 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 11:24:50 -0400 Subject: Radio In 1949 In-Reply-To: <349877D93A0D46438791722F89B80747@OwnerPC> References: <349877D93A0D46438791722F89B80747@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <55746242.3090302@donnahalper.com> On 6/7/2015 9:57 AM, Ted Larsen wrote: > Here?s a link that might interest the group. The clip art is amusing, especially the ad for the Yankee Network. > In 1948-1949, the Yankee Network was in a period of transition. Founder and long-time owner John Shepard III was in poor health (he would finally succumb to heart disease in June 1950) and had just stepped down from his role as president of the network. He had sold Yankee earlier in the 40s but still remained to run it till his contract with new owner General Tire ended, and he concluded his more than two decade association with Yankee. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Jun 8 21:43:15 2015 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 18:43:15 -0700 Subject: Am prices in Boston.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1433814195.44814.YahooMailBasic@web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Anyone recall how much Entercom paid for 850AM? Any idea what it would bring now? Basically you would be buying a stick...on a dying band, with no local programming, no ratings, and no billing. Anyone want to speculate? From Jibguy@aol.com Mon Jun 8 23:31:44 2015 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 23:31:44 -0400 Subject: VALUE OIF AM's was(no subject) Message-ID: <6b139.542a5e49.42a7b820@aol.com> As painful as this topic is..... I'd look at 850's land. Being on the Needham/Wellesley border area, its gotta be worth tens of millions. 3 towers. (Three towers-worth of WMAL land.... 60+ million). Without the land, what's 850 worth? Not much if it's separated from its land in the future and it can't be diplexed off of 680. $500k or less. If sold intact with land, a ton more. Related: I'm hearing that the land is not included in the 1260 sale! What is included is the lease on it. I had thought the station and land were together. ----BB In a message dated 6/8/2015 10:44:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org writes: -----Original Message----- Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 18:43:15 -0700 From: "D. A." Subject: Am prices in Boston.... To: Jeff Lehmann , boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org, Don Anyone recall how much Entercom paid for 850AM? Any idea what it would bring now? Basically you would be buying a stick...on a dying band, with no local programming, no ratings, and no billing. Anyone want to speculate? From bob.bosra@demattia.net Tue Jun 9 00:14:01 2015 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 00:14:01 -0400 Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I can't imagine that 1260's land is worth that much. Primarily salt marsh with the only access behind at the end of a dead-end residential street. It's great for a radio transmitter, but not much else. -Bob D. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Bob Bittner via Boston-Radio-Interest < boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jibguy@aol.com > To: donald_astelle@yahoo.com, jjlehmann@comcast.net, > boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org, Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com > Cc: > Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 23:31:44 -0400 > Subject: Re: VALUE OIF AM's was(no subject) > As painful as this topic is..... I'd look at 850's land. Being on the > Needham/Wellesley border area, its gotta be worth tens of millions. 3 > towers. (Three towers-worth of WMAL land.... 60+ million). Without the > land, > what's 850 worth? Not much if it's separated from its land in the future > and it can't be diplexed off of 680. $500k or less. If sold intact with > land, a ton more. > > Related: I'm hearing that the land is not included in the 1260 sale! > What is included is the lease on it. I had thought the station and land > were > together. > > ----BB > > > In a message dated 6/8/2015 10:44:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org writes: > > -----Original Message----- > Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 18:43:15 -0700 > From: "D. A." > Subject: Am prices in Boston.... > To: Jeff Lehmann , > boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org, Don > > > > > > Anyone recall how much Entercom paid for 850AM? > > Any idea what it would bring now? > > Basically you would be buying a stick...on a dying band, > with no local programming, no ratings, and no billing. > > Anyone want to speculate? > > > > > > From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Tue Jun 9 01:52:02 2015 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 05:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Radio In 1949 In-Reply-To: <349877D93A0D46438791722F89B80747@OwnerPC> References: <349877D93A0D46438791722F89B80747@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <777469752.9409840.1433829122312.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >Ted Larsen wrote:>The clip art is amusing, especially the ad for the Yankee Network. ??? The LARGE ad (full two-page spread)?for WEEI ("Columbia's friendly voice in Boston") several pages later also is amusing -- in a fishy sort of way. It promotes morning weather guy E.B. Rideout. From tlmedia@intrstar.net Tue Jun 9 08:16:35 2015 From: tlmedia@intrstar.net (Ted Larsen) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 08:16:35 -0400 Subject: Am prices in Boston.... In-Reply-To: <1433814195.44814.YahooMailBasic@web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1433814195.44814.YahooMailBasic@web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I remember the sale price was $3,000,000 when American Radio Systems bought it, but I can't find the Entercom price. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WEEI. I remember as a small kid listening to Bob & Ray. Wow am I old! They had such great characters and I remember most of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_and_Ray I was doing business with one of the cable TV pioneers, Steve Dodge. He sold 850 and started American Tower Systems which was a brilliant business move, "Build a tower and they will come." And they certainly did. http://www.americantower.com/corporateus/global-country-selector/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: D. A. Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 9:43 PM To: Jeff Lehmann ; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org ; Don Subject: Am prices in Boston.... Anyone recall how much Entercom paid for 850AM? Any idea what it would bring now? Basically you would be buying a stick...on a dying band, with no local programming, no ratings, and no billing. Anyone want to speculate? From john@minutemancomm.com Tue Jun 9 20:12:15 2015 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 20:12:15 -0400 Subject: Am prices in Boston.... In-Reply-To: References: <1433814195.44814.YahooMailBasic@web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00c301d0a312$1cbde450$5639acf0$@com> American Radio was bought by CBS but they had too many properties in Boston so they had to get rid of all but WBMX. They made a deal with Entercom to trade stations in different markets so WAAF, WEEI and WRKO went to Entercom here. Don't remember what CBS got. -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Ted Larsen Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 8:17 AM To: Jeff Lehmann; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org; Don Subject: Re: Am prices in Boston.... I remember the sale price was $3,000,000 when American Radio Systems bought it, but I can't find the Entercom price. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WEEI. I remember as a small kid listening to Bob & Ray. Wow am I old! They had such great characters and I remember most of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_and_Ray I was doing business with one of the cable TV pioneers, Steve Dodge. He sold 850 and started American Tower Systems which was a brilliant business move, "Build a tower and they will come." And they certainly did. http://www.americantower.com/corporateus/global-country-selector/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: D. A. Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 9:43 PM To: Jeff Lehmann ; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org ; Don Subject: Am prices in Boston.... Anyone recall how much Entercom paid for 850AM? Any idea what it would bring now? Basically you would be buying a stick...on a dying band, with no local programming, no ratings, and no billing. Anyone want to speculate? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Jun 10 09:46:18 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:46:18 -0400 Subject: Salem buying WMKI 1260 Message-ID: Strictly a rumor for now but NEO (northeast Ohio) Media Daily tweets that Salem Media may make a deal to run Rush Limbaugh on its conservative talk stations. If WMKI, once approved, winds up as conservative talk (they'd hope to get an affordable deal for Rush), that could be a new home for Limbaugh. It also could mean new homes for Rush in Cleveland (WHK instead of WTAM), Pittsburgh (WPGP 1250 instead of WJAS) and other cities. From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Jun 10 18:44:05 2015 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:44:05 -0400 Subject: Revision to FCC field office closing - Boston is saved Message-ID: <00ee01d0a3ce$f50a2e60$df1e8b20$@garysicecream.com> According to RadioInk, the Boston field office of the FCC will remain open under the revised field office closing plan. Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA www.garysicecream.com www.icecreamcollege.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Jun 10 09:48:29 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:48:29 -0400 Subject: WMKI 1260 Message-ID: Salem Media does have the URL http://1260theanswer.com but currently it redirects to http:// am1260theanswer.com --their Arlington VA talker From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Jun 12 07:34:21 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 07:34:21 -0400 Subject: McPhee charged with DUI. assault Message-ID: WMEX host Michele McPhee made the news but not in a good way, a bit over a week into her new show when she was stopped on suspicion of DUI. resisted arrest and is said to have assaulted a police officer. She said she'd had no sleep the night before and had drunk some wine. She angrily pointed out her decades of supporting the police and demanded to see "the Colonel". She has been arraigned and her next court date is in August. Recently WEEI's John Dennis confronted a problem with alcohol, took time off and went into rehab. Hopefully should she have the same pattern of alcohol abuse she can do the same. Intoxication can lead to bad judgement and her pulling the "do you know who I am?" card proves despite supporting police officers, nobody is above the law. On social media and the comment boards of local papers. many are calling her a hypocrite. WMEX issued a statement supporting her as she faces the judgement system and praised her past journalistic record. Elsewhere on the dial from what I heard, Howie Carr didn't mention the incident. They have been colleagues at work and she would call his show about certain hot cases; had it been someone else it could have been a different story. Howie had a couple driving incidents himself, one in Wellesley that could have been medicine-related and a rollover on the Mass. Pike shortly before starting his "new show". Had he not been wearing a seat belt it could have been the end for him. (This was just after election night and he said he he had been"up late".) Again as with the case of Dennis, alcohol abuse is a tough addiction to fight and. whether or not you agree with her political views. it's something people must face and her station supports her (as Entercom did with Dennis). For now morning host Joe Ligotti. a fellow colleague from her WTKK days. may be filling in as he did yesterday. http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2015/06/wmex_backing_host_michele_mcphee_in_oui_assault_counts "?We leave it to the judicial system of the State of Massachusetts to provide due process and justice to Michele, while we continue to support her within our family, and wish her a speedy recovery from the serious injuries that she sustained in the course of this event,? the (WMEX) statement read. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Fri Jun 12 22:40:45 2015 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 19:40:45 -0700 Subject: McPhee charged with DUI. assault In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1434163245.84739.YahooMailBasic@web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Sometimes a media person is confronted by their imperfections, sometimes their demons. Adrian Walker, John Dennis, Mike Macklin, Tom Leykis, Reese, Dave Supple, Bob Gamere and a few others...and now Michele McPhee. When they do, it's often in a very public (and messy) manner. We can only wish her the very best. Let's hope she can deal with her issues in the end becomes a better person. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Jun 13 03:25:56 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 03:25:56 -0400 Subject: McPhee charged with DUI. assault In-Reply-To: <1434163245.84739.YahooMailBasic@web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1434163245.84739.YahooMailBasic@web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: McPhee did go on air yesterday but began by saying under advice of counsel she would not discuss "what happened this week". She said "you know how much I respect the law". I heard bits and pieces of her 3 pm and 4 pm hours and it sounded like they weren't taking any calls. Articles in the Herald and on the site Universal Hub mentioned how she feels she will be vindicated in the end. Her next court date is in August. I agree that she should deal with her issues and come out the better for it. On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:40 PM, D. A. wrote: > > Sometimes a media person is confronted by their imperfections, sometimes > their demons. > > > Adrian Walker, John Dennis, Mike Macklin, Tom Leykis, Reese, Dave Supple, > Bob Gamere and a few others...and now Michele McPhee. > > When they do, it's often in a very public (and messy) manner. > > > We can only wish her the very best. Let's hope she can deal with her > issues in the end becomes a better person. > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Jun 14 21:09:47 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:09:47 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? Message-ID: http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/netgnomes/93331/iheart-forced-to-blow-up-boston-am-for-limbaugh/ iHeart may be blowing up Spanish language WKOX 1430 to provide a Boston home for Rush Limbaugh and their other conservative talkers. If Salem takes 1260 to conservative talk there would then be three such stations in town. From scott@fybush.com Sun Jun 14 21:59:14 2015 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:59:14 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <557E3172.2030501@fybush.com> On 6/14/2015 9:09 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/netgnomes/93331/iheart-forced-to-blow-up-boston-am-for-limbaugh/ > > iHeart may be blowing up Spanish language WKOX > 1430 to provide a Boston home for Rush Limbaugh > and their other conservative talkers. > > If Salem takes 1260 to conservative talk there > would then be three such stations in town. > WMEX: So irrelevant that even Bob Nelson doesn't count it when he's listing talk stations? ;) From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Jun 14 22:15:01 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:15:01 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: <557E3172.2030501@fybush.com> References: <557E3172.2030501@fybush.com> Message-ID: ha; actually I meant to say we could have FOUR conservative talk stations in town (we are a hotspot for right-wingers, eh? /sarcasm) as odd it may seem: WRKO with Kuhner, Carr and perhaps that boston.com show; WMEX, with Michele McPhee in the headlines; a possible Talk 1430 (5 kW day, 1kw directional night, wow) and perhaps Salem will echo a Beatles lyric with 1260: there may be an Answer...let it be :) On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > On 6/14/2015 9:09 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > >> >> http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/netgnomes/93331/iheart-forced-to-blow-up-boston-am-for-limbaugh/ >> >> iHeart may be blowing up Spanish language WKOX >> 1430 to provide a Boston home for Rush Limbaugh >> and their other conservative talkers. >> >> If Salem takes 1260 to conservative talk there >> would then be three such stations in town. >> >> > WMEX: So irrelevant that even Bob Nelson doesn't count it when he's > listing talk stations? ;) > From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Jun 14 22:16:45 2015 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:16:45 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: <557E3172.2030501@fybush.com> References: <557E3172.2030501@fybush.com> Message-ID: Scott 680, 1510 and 1260 is 3 - who I missing as I don't count 590? On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > On 6/14/2015 9:09 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > >> >> http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/netgnomes/93331/iheart-forced-to-blow-up-boston-am-for-limbaugh/ >> >> iHeart may be blowing up Spanish language WKOX >> 1430 to provide a Boston home for Rush Limbaugh >> and their other conservative talkers. >> >> If Salem takes 1260 to conservative talk there >> would then be three such stations in town. >> >> > WMEX: So irrelevant that even Bob Nelson doesn't count it when he's > listing talk stations? ;) > From rbello@belloassoc.com Mon Jun 15 01:57:43 2015 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 01:57:43 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: <557E3172.2030501@fybush.com> Message-ID: 1430 --------------------------------------------------- On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Scott 680, 1510 and 1260 is 3 - who I missing as I don't count 590? > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > > > On 6/14/2015 9:09 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > > > >> > >> > http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/netgnomes/93331/iheart-forced-to-blow-up-boston-am-for-limbaugh/ > >> > >> iHeart may be blowing up Spanish language WKOX > >> 1430 to provide a Boston home for Rush Limbaugh > >> and their other conservative talkers. > >> > >> If Salem takes 1260 to conservative talk there > >> would then be three such stations in town. > >> > >> > > WMEX: So irrelevant that even Bob Nelson doesn't count it when he's > > listing talk stations? ;) > > > From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Jun 14 22:27:04 2015 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:27:04 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: <557E3172.2030501@fybush.com> Message-ID: Concerning WKOX 1430 When they first were given nightime authority were they always at 1KW? I seem to recall in the MOYL days it was far less. Daytime 1430 is fine for Rush as it will cover most of the area inside 495. Back in the 60's their signal was so well maintained that it caused the old WAAB Worcester problems less than 10 miles east of Worcester. On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Scott 680, 1510 and 1260 is 3 - who I missing as I don't count 590? > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > >> On 6/14/2015 9:09 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: >> >>> >>> http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/netgnomes/93331/iheart-forced-to-blow-up-boston-am-for-limbaugh/ >>> >>> iHeart may be blowing up Spanish language WKOX >>> 1430 to provide a Boston home for Rush Limbaugh >>> and their other conservative talkers. >>> >>> If Salem takes 1260 to conservative talk there >>> would then be three such stations in town. >>> >>> >> WMEX: So irrelevant that even Bob Nelson doesn't count it when he's >> listing talk stations? ;) >> > > From Jibguy@aol.com Mon Jun 15 02:48:23 2015 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 02:48:23 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? Message-ID: <35c0b.e53eef2.42afcf37@aol.com> It first was 500 watts at night in March 1985. Then a couple months later, they got 1000 watts. ----jibguy In a message dated 6/15/2015 2:41:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kvahey@gmail.com writes: Concerning WKOX 1430 When they first were given nightime authority were they always at 1KW? I seem to recall in the MOYL days it was far less. Daytime 1430 is fine for Rush as it will cover most of the area inside 495. Back in the 60's their signal was so well maintained that it caused the old WAAB Worcester problems less than 10 miles east of Worcester. On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Scott 680, 1510 and 1260 is 3 - who I missing as I don't count 590? > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > >> On 6/14/2015 9:09 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: >> >>> >>> http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/netgnomes/93331/iheart-forced-to-blow-up-boston-am-for-limbaugh/ >>> >>> iHeart may be blowing up Spanish language WKOX >>> 1430 to provide a Boston home for Rush Limbaugh >>> and their other conservative talkers. >>> >>> If Salem takes 1260 to conservative talk there >>> would then be three such stations in town. >>> >>> >> WMEX: So irrelevant that even Bob Nelson doesn't count it when he's >> listing talk stations? ;) >> > > From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Jun 15 06:17:45 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 06:17:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am I missing something? They're going to dump a profitable Spanish-language format on an otherwise unmarketable 1430 for Rush Limbaugh? Why don't they lease time on, say, WNTN? Isn't this the same company that had Limbaugh on 1200, with a 50,000-watt signal, only to find no audience for him there? If they expect him to do any better on 1430, they are clearly sucking on the wrong toad down in San Antonio. Rob From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Jun 15 07:53:44 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 07:53:44 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's their only option for now it seems; don't know if they'd bother leasing time. I don't know how much money they make off Mia. What would a Talk 1430 lineup be like? Morning drive, who knows (Imus is still around; he's on 970 in Portland)...Beck, Rush, Hannity...post 6 pm they could run America Now or heck, even their own Fox Sports Radio w JT The Brick etc. They wouldn't take their own Coast 2 Coast off RKO would they... naaah... Who knows where Rush will land when his contract ends next year. Maybe still with Premiere but a massive lowball offer. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > Am I missing something? They're going to dump a profitable > Spanish-language format on an otherwise unmarketable 1430 for Rush Limbaugh? > > Why don't they lease time on, say, WNTN? > > Isn't this the same company that had Limbaugh on 1200, with a 50,000-watt > signal, only to find no audience for him there? If they expect him to do > any better on 1430, they are clearly sucking on the wrong toad down in San > Antonio. > > > Rob > From dillane@sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 15 08:18:56 2015 From: dillane@sbcglobal.net (Bill Dillane) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? Message-ID: <1323535250.1529528.1434370736475.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Can you still call it Excellence in Broadcasting if it's on an inferior signal? :) From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Jun 15 12:09:44 2015 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:09:44 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: <557E3172.2030501@fybush.com> Message-ID: I was first made aware of WHIL in the late 50's into the 60's as they used to broadcast daily from Suffolk and Rockingham Park. My uncle would listen everyday up in Hampton Beach. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > Back in the WHIL days? (were they Country or Muzac at that time?) I was > NOT a listener of 1430 in my youth, and in fact the first time I tuned to > 107.9 FM was as WWEL for night time Sox games in 1978. > > I was a WRKO/WKOX-FM later WVBF listener as the 60s became the 70s > > Paul Hopfgarten > > > *Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2015 at 10:27 PM > *From:* "Kevin Vahey" > *To:* "Scott Fybush" > *Cc:* "Boston Radio Group" > *Subject:* Re: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? > Concerning WKOX 1430 > > When they first were given nightime authority were they always at 1KW? I > seem to recall in the MOYL days it was far less. > > Daytime 1430 is fine for Rush as it will cover most of the area inside 495. > Back in the 60's their signal was so well maintained that it caused the old > WAAB Worcester problems less than 10 miles east of Worcester. > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > > Scott 680, 1510 and 1260 is 3 - who I missing as I don't count 590? > > > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > > > >> On 6/14/2015 9:09 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/netgnomes/93331/iheart-forced-to-blow-up-boston-am-for-limbaugh/ > >>> > >>> iHeart may be blowing up Spanish language WKOX > >>> 1430 to provide a Boston home for Rush Limbaugh > >>> and their other conservative talkers. > >>> > >>> If Salem takes 1260 to conservative talk there > >>> would then be three such stations in town. > >>> > >>> > >> WMEX: So irrelevant that even Bob Nelson doesn't count it when he's > >> listing talk stations? ;) > >> > > > > > From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Jun 15 12:55:32 2015 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:55:32 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?I looked back and Rush pulled a 1.0 - 1.1 share in the Talk1200 days. Better than Mia's 0.6. But 1200 has a better signal.? From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Jun 15 12:47:26 2015 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:47:26 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: <557E3172.2030501@fybush.com> Message-ID: <557F019E.6060509@donnahalper.com> On 6/15/2015 12:09 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > I was first made aware of WHIL in the late 50's into the 60's as they used > to broadcast daily from Suffolk and Rockingham Park. My uncle would listen > everyday up in Hampton Beach. > OMG, a mention of WHIL. At one point in the 1950s, they were top-40, as I vaguely recall from my childhood. I think Don Masters was one of their disc jockeys. And yes, they did indeed air horse racing, announced by Babe Rubenstein. They were owned by Sherwood "Woody" Tarlow, if memory serves. (He was a probate court judge at one time, but I believe he got into some kind of ethics trouble... the Boston Globe did an entire investigative piece on his improprieties circa 1973. From rbello@belloassoc.com Mon Jun 15 14:26:09 2015 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:26:09 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does it make sense to blow up any profitable format for someone who might not be on the schedule in a year ? --------------------------------------------------- On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Bob DeMattia wrote: > I looked back and Rush pulled a 1.0 - 1.1 share in the Talk1200 days. > Better than Mia's 0.6. But 1200 has a better signal. > From billohno@gmail.com Mon Jun 15 15:47:37 2015 From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:47:37 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've been following the many posts on Limbaugh, most of which assume the conservative talker's imminent demise. While no career lasts forever, I just don't see it going nova amidst a big election cycle. But re-sizing the deal is imminent. Limbaugh has a sizeable member stream that he could parlay. He's already made massive money. I think at renewal he'll take a massive cut and re-tool much as Beck and Hannity have. As long as his health holds out I don't see him going completely dark. Bill O'Neill Sent from my mobile. Please pardon the brevity. > On Jun 15, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Ron Bello wrote: > > Does it make sense to blow up any profitable format for someone who might > not be on the schedule in a year ? > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Bob DeMattia > wrote: > >> I looked back and Rush pulled a 1.0 - 1.1 share in the Talk1200 days. >> Better than Mia's 0.6. But 1200 has a better signal. >> From karenmctrotsky@gmail.com Fri Jun 12 14:06:29 2015 From: karenmctrotsky@gmail.com (Karen McTrotsky) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:06:29 -0400 Subject: McPhee charged with DUI. assault Message-ID: She certainly should not get a pass on her ethical lapse. No, I don't mean operating under, I mean the demand for special treatment. It is troubling on two fronts. First, it's the "do you know who i am" card which is never acceptable because it demands special privilege based on her status or on who she knows. But wait. there's more. She's claiming that high ranking public officials in general, and the superintendent of state police in particular, owe her for past favors. She said that she "defends police," which can be taken as a public admission that she slants the news. But even worse, in asking for her help, she's saying loud and clear that she's willing to go in the tank for them and expects something in return. i'm thinking evidence might disappear in this one, especially if her "defending" police officers has kept some of them out of trouble. her avowed willingness to ignore simple journalistic ethics make that a very real possibility. She should be fired. Not for drinking and driving, but for asking for favorable treatment in exchange for favorable coverage. it is an unacceptable ethical compromise that should end her career. Let her go write crime novels. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Jun 14 21:15:25 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?cmFjY29vbnJhZGlvQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==?=) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: ..1430 for Rush,conserv talkers? Message-ID: <000f4242.0c5e96ec78e75eda@gmail.com> Oops I meant we could have four conservative talkers in town, if iHeart does indeed makes 1430 WKOX a new home for Rush and theirother hosts...680,1510, then add 1430 and maybe an Answer 1260 from Salem... http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/netgnomes/93331/iheart-forced-to-blow-up-boston-am-for-limbaugh/ From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Mon Jun 15 08:14:50 2015 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:14:50 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1434370493757-d7066c16-b235bd04-89f8cbd1@yahoo.com> That was my thought, too, Rob. Is 1430 leased or programmed in-house? Sent using CloudMagic [https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=pi&cv=6.4.21&pv=8.3] On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: Am I missing something? They're going to dump a profitable Spanish-language format on an otherwise unmarketable 1430 for Rush Limbaugh? Why don't they lease time on, say, WNTN? Isn't this the same company that had Limbaugh on 1200, with a 50,000-watt signal, only to find no audience for him there? If they expect him to do any better on 1430, they are clearly sucking on the wrong toad down in San Antonio. Rob From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Jun 15 17:36:50 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?cmFjY29vbnJhZGlvQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==?=) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? Message-ID: <000f4242.6ab67e83662b5b61@gmail.com> Agreed; he will still be a player but in some places he'll be on weaker stations. Many willlisten online,too. June 29 is debut for the new Talk 1430 which will have Fox Sports 1-9am then Beck, Rush(Noon),Hannity,America Now and Mark Levin. Sent from my Virgin Mobile phone. From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Jun 15 20:49:45 2015 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:49:45 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: <000f4242.6ab67e83662b5b61@gmail.com> References: <000f4242.6ab67e83662b5b61@gmail.com> Message-ID: > On Jun 15, 2015, at 5:36 PM, raccoonradio@gmail.com wrote: > > June 29 is debut for the new Talk 1430 which will have Fox Sports 1-9am then Beck, Rush(Noon),Hannity,America Now and Mark Levin. Source? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Jun 15 22:12:51 2015 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:12:51 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: <000f4242.6ab67e83662b5b61@gmail.com> Message-ID: iHeartMedia press release: http://www.mia1430.com/common/press/wkox-am/index.html On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Larry Weil wrote: > > > On Jun 15, 2015, at 5:36 PM, raccoonradio@gmail.com wrote: > > > > June 29 is debut for the new Talk 1430 which will have Fox Sports 1-9am > then Beck, Rush(Noon),Hannity,America Now and Mark Levin. > > Source? > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > > > > > From paulranderson@mac.com Mon Jun 15 20:57:03 2015 From: paulranderson@mac.com (Paul Anderson) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:57:03 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: <1323535250.1529528.1434370736475.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1323535250.1529528.1434370736475.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Bill Dillane wrote: > > Can you still call it Excellence in Broadcasting if it's on an inferior signal? :) It could be worse?they could put Rush on WILD. Then it would be on an inferior AND inaudible signal! Paul From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Jun 15 21:25:46 2015 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 18:25:46 -0700 Subject: McPhee charged with DUI. assault In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1434417946.67338.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> On Fri, 6/12/15, Karen McTrotsky wrote: >> She should be fired. Not for drinking and driving, but for asking for favorable treatment in exchange for favorable coverage. it is an unacceptable ethical compromise that should end her career. >>> Now remember, it is only alleged that she said those things. She should not be fired for things "alleged"..or else what kind of country would this be? It's one cops word against hers. And we know cops never lie, right? From scott@fybush.com Mon Jun 15 22:30:17 2015 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:30:17 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: <000f4242.6ab67e83662b5b61@gmail.com> References: <000f4242.6ab67e83662b5b61@gmail.com> Message-ID: <557F8A39.5050806@fybush.com> On 6/15/2015 5:36 PM, raccoonradio@gmail.com wrote: > Agreed; he will still be a player but in some places he'll be on > weaker stations. Many willlisten online,too. I'm assuming you have a macro programmed to keep repeating that, Bob? ;) To get back to Bill's question from earlier - there is no doubt whatsoever that when Premiere comes to the table with Rush at renewal time next year, their math will dictate a much, much lower amount that they can pay Rush and still make money. It's hard to see how they can possibly be making money on their current contract given how much they're paying (reportedly $38 million a year) and what's happened to revenue. They've lost whatever cash payments were coming in from Cumulus in NY and SF, Entercom in Boston, Emmis in Indianapolis and surely others once they can get out of their existing contracts. Yes, there's online revenue coming in, but who's getting rich from online revenue in 2015? If you're Rush Limbaugh in 2016, what do you do? You're 68 years old, your health isn't great, and because you're Rush, you have an ego that is a big part of who you are and what you do. Can that ego stand the public pressure of a sea of reports about how your salary's been chopped from 38 million a year to...5 million, maybe? And if you've been banking 38 million a year for all these years, do you NEED to keep working after that kind of a pay cut? What's left to prove, when you can declare victory and go sit on a beach in Costa Rica for the rest of your life instead of watching your affiliate base keep going from KFI and WRKO to the 1150s and 1430s of the world? This is all about the money for ALMOST everyone involved - affiliates now, Premiere/iHeart next year. For Rush himself (and ONLY for Rush himself), it's also about ego and pride, and who knows what direction that will lead him in? From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Jun 15 23:00:15 2015 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:00:15 -0400 Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And even if she is found guilty.... lots of people say stupid things when they are drunk. It's the responsibility of the Commonwealth to dole out the punishment, not her employer. Why is everyone so quick to jump up and say someone should lose their job every time they do something wrong? -Bob On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:25 PM, D. A. via Boston-Radio-Interest < boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "D. A." > To: Karen McTrotsky > Cc: "boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org" < > boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org> > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 18:25:46 -0700 > Subject: RE: McPhee charged with DUI. assault > > On Fri, 6/12/15, Karen McTrotsky wrote: > > > >> > She should be fired. Not for drinking and driving, but for > asking for > favorable treatment in exchange for favorable coverage. it > is an > unacceptable ethical compromise that should end her career. > >>> > > > Now remember, it is only alleged that she said those things. She should > not be fired for things "alleged"..or else what kind of country would this > be? > > It's one cops word against hers. And we know cops never lie, right? > > > > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Jun 15 22:08:18 2015 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:08:18 -0700 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1434420498.66250.YahooMailBasic@web126006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: "Rob Landry" <011010001@interpring.com> >>Am I missing something? They're going to dump a profitable Spanish-language format... << Who said it's "profitable" right now? >>Isn't this the same company that had Limbaugh on 1200, with a 50,000-watt signal, only to find no audience for him there?<< Yep! Just goes to show how important it is to a company to clear their network shows in a major market. It's apparently more important to a syndication company to get shows cleared in every major market and more important to national spot sales....than it is for local ratings and local sales. And the fact that they needed clearance on their 3 biggest talk shows in this market, led to the decision. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Jun 15 23:20:32 2015 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:20:32 -0700 Subject: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1434424832.374.YahooMailBasic@web126003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> >> Why is everyone so quick to jump up and say someone should lose their job every time they do something wrong?<< $0.02: 1.) Because we want to hold celebrities to a higher standard? 2.) When you are a "political" person, you accumulate enemies that are ready to pounce when they see you are weak. From 011010001@interpring.com Tue Jun 16 07:46:24 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 07:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: <000f4242.6ab67e83662b5b61@gmail.com> References: <000f4242.6ab67e83662b5b61@gmail.com> Message-ID: His audience has grown old and less attractive to advertisers. That is the real issue, methinks. Rob From elipolo881@gmail.com Tue Jun 16 15:47:54 2015 From: elipolo881@gmail.com (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:47:54 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? Message-ID: The IBOC/HD was shut off on WKOX 1430 sometime last week. EP From 011010001@interpring.com Wed Jun 17 06:36:44 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 06:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Eli Polonsky wrote: > The IBOC/HD was shut off on WKOX 1430 sometime last week. Is this permanent? If so, this would truly delight one of my clients. Rob From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Jun 17 08:18:48 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:18:48 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hopefully...the HD radio site by the way lists WNNW, the AM 800 in Lawrence as running HD along with WBZ, WMKI and WKOX. So if so that will be now be slightly inaccurate. I have heard WMKI does indeed run HD and if they go to a talk or business news format maybe they'd shut it down, too. While I do have a portable HD radio it's strictly FM, with some AM stations available as subchannels (WBZ, WXKS, WRKO). It isn't an "AM-HD" and "FM-HD" radio so I have no way of knowing if the actual AM signals are running HD or not. Not really the same thing but don't some talk and sports stations run in mono, not stereo--maybe to slightly help the signal in some areas? WEEI-FM is in mono and for years talk station WNIR in Kent/Akron OH has run mono. Why bother with stereo on a spoken word format? (Note: I just checked my stereo receiver and it appears WGBH, WBUR-FM and WEEI-FM all are in mono; no stereo "light"...) On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Eli Polonsky wrote: > > The IBOC/HD was shut off on WKOX 1430 sometime last week. >> > > Is this permanent? If so, this would truly delight one of my clients. > > > Rob > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Jun 17 10:12:37 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 10:12:37 -0400 Subject: Kuhner announces move to noon Message-ID: Announcement on air (WRKO just now) by Kuhner. Kuhner said his ratings have been through the roof in mornings (despite what his haters online claim). He said a decision was made to drop Rush and put him in at noon as an ?anchor of the station?. This will be around July 4 weekend, no hard date yet. The aim is to syndicate, which is said to work best at time slots besides morning drive. At first he will stay local but then there will be more and more stations picking him up instead of Rush, he feels. Such a humble guy, the next Rush Limbaugh I guess?and thanks for being so definite about the exact date, Kuhner-man! [image: :)] AMD and PMD are very important so, what with his ratings going through the roof, why not take him OUT of AMD and put him in at noon? Riiiiiight. Gotta go...Jeff told me he was gonna sell the Salem-Beverly bridge to me... :) From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Jun 17 10:53:44 2015 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 10:53:44 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3BBEB7F7-9DE4-4237-87E7-24FE454CCA78@comcast.net> WNNW hasn't run HD on 800 since they started running the 102.9 translator (which does have HD). Jeff Lehmann > On Jun 17, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > Hopefully...the HD radio site by the way lists WNNW, the AM 800 in Lawrence > as running HD along with WBZ, WMKI and WKOX. So if so that will be now be > slightly inaccurate. I have heard WMKI does indeed run HD and if they go to > a talk or business news format maybe they'd shut it down, too. > > While I do have a portable HD radio it's strictly FM, with some AM stations > available as subchannels (WBZ, WXKS, WRKO). It isn't an "AM-HD" and "FM-HD" > radio so I have no way of knowing if the actual AM signals are running HD > or not. > > Not really the same thing but don't some talk and sports stations run in > mono, not stereo--maybe to slightly help the signal in some areas? WEEI-FM > is in mono and for years talk station WNIR in Kent/Akron OH has run mono. > Why bother with stereo on a spoken word format? (Note: I just checked my > stereo receiver and it appears WGBH, WBUR-FM and WEEI-FM all are in mono; > no stereo "light"...) > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Eli Polonsky wrote: >> >> The IBOC/HD was shut off on WKOX 1430 sometime last week. >> >> Is this permanent? If so, this would truly delight one of my clients. >> >> >> Rob >> From 011010001@interpring.com Wed Jun 17 13:49:10 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One of my clients has a station on 1410 in Hyde Park. His signal has been unlistenable in Somerville and Everett because of IBOC interference from 1430. Rob On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Eli Polonsky wrote: > It has been shut off briefly temporarily in the past, but I'm venturing to > guess that this time it may be permanent in advance of the new format (since > it will no longer be music). Is your client trying to listen to something on > an adjacent or nearby frequency? From scott@fybush.com Wed Jun 17 15:13:36 2015 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:13:36 -0400 Subject: Kuhner announces move to noon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Which, by my math, leaves only two loose ends in this whole talk mess: 1. WRKO's new morning show, which hasn't had much in the way of leaks yet 2. Salem's plans for 1260 I had a chat with a reporter from a prominent local newspaper that's not the Herald yesterday (the article will run tomorrow, I think) and he didn't even know about the Salem/1260 angle. I guess the market's desperate cry for more Hugh Hewitt hasn't been heeded heretofore. s On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > Announcement on air (WRKO just now) by Kuhner. > Kuhner said his ratings have been through the roof in mornings (despite > what his haters online claim). He said a decision was made to drop Rush and > put him in at noon as an ?anchor of the station?. This will be around July > 4 weekend, no hard date yet. The aim is to syndicate, which is said to work > best at time slots besides morning drive. At first he will stay local but > then there will be more and more stations picking him up instead of Rush, > he feels. > > Such a humble guy, the next Rush Limbaugh I guess?and thanks for being so > definite about the exact date, Kuhner-man! [image: :)] > > AMD and PMD are very important so, what with his ratings going through the > roof, why not take him OUT of AMD and put him in at noon? Riiiiiight. Gotta > go...Jeff told me he was gonna sell the Salem-Beverly bridge to me... :) > From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Jun 17 15:58:50 2015 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:58:50 -0400 Subject: Kuhner announces move to noon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5581D17A.6060707@donnahalper.com> On 6/17/2015 3:13 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > I had a chat with a reporter from a prominent local newspaper that's not > the Herald yesterday (the article will run tomorrow, I think) and he didn't > even know about the Salem/1260 angle. I guess the market's desperate cry > for more Hugh Hewitt hasn't been heeded heretofore. > For the life of me, I don't understand why Boston owners keep recycling the same old tired right-wing talk. Not asking for more Liberal Talk (although that would be a nice change), but surely there are some other talkers rather than rounding up the usual suspects... From elipolo881@gmail.com Wed Jun 17 11:36:18 2015 From: elipolo881@gmail.com (Eli Polonsky) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:36:18 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It has been shut off briefly temporarily in the past, but I'm venturing to guess that this time it may be permanent in advance of the new format (since it will no longer be music). Is your client trying to listen to something on an adjacent or nearby frequency? EP On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Eli Polonsky wrote: > > The IBOC/HD was shut off on WKOX 1430 sometime last week. >> > > Is this permanent? If so, this would truly delight one of my clients. > > > From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Jun 17 21:02:52 2015 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:02:52 -0400 Subject: Kuhner announces move to noon In-Reply-To: <5581D17A.6060707@donnahalper.com> References: <5581D17A.6060707@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <21890.6332.357907.655354@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > For the life of me, I don't understand why Boston owners keep recycling > the same old tired right-wing talk. Not asking for more Liberal Talk > (although that would be a nice change), but surely there are some other > talkers rather than rounding up the usual suspects... Because the clearance is what they care about. These owners literally do not care whether anyone in Boston actually listens to the programming (although a few people will, and that's gravy), so long as they can tell their national advertising clients that the shows are cleared in all of the top-N markets. (And many of those advertisers these days are from the low-rent district anyway: bogus nostrums, bad financial advice, and other per-inquiry crap.) It's not like we're talking about actual local owners or anything. -GAWollman From karenmctrotsky@gmail.com Mon Jun 15 18:20:17 2015 From: karenmctrotsky@gmail.com (Karen McTrotsky) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 18:20:17 -0400 Subject: Price of Boston AMs Message-ID: Okay, we'll deal with the sales of WHDH radio and its successors. But if you want to run out and buy it, you'll get a license. No stick, no real estate. Herald-Traveler Corp., shorn of its TV station, sold its newspaper in 1972, and changed its name to WHDH Corp, since its only asset was WHDH Inc. licensee of the AM and FM stations. H-T Corp. was still owned by old North Shore money, mostly people who were investors in United Shoe of Beverly, which owned and leased out virtually every piece of shoe-manufacturing equipment in the country. WHDH Corp. soon thereafter was sold, merging into John Blair & Co. in 1973. Blair had been the national rep firm for WHDH for decades. Blair had privately acquired 9.7 percent of WHDH Corp. from the aforementioned North Shore Yankees and made a tender offer of $30 per share for the remaining 90.3% of WHDH's 580,000 outstanding shares, about $15.7 million on top of the initial stake. The stations had combined revenues of $4.3 million in '72. The real estate sold to Blair had been mortgaged to New England Merchants National Bank so that WHDH Corp. could pay bills from the $11 million write-down and associated severance costs incurred in April 1972 when it shut down the Herald-Traveler and sold its assets to Hearst. The Needham site was originally acquired in four transactions on March 22, 1948 by Matheson Radio Co., Inc. for antenna siting as part of an AM power increase to 50k and addition of FM service. (While it acquired Matheson Radio in 1946, Herald-Traveler Corp. did not rename the its broadcasting subsidiary WHDH Inc. until Oct. 1, 1954.) In 1987, Blair sold WHDH, ending one of Boston's most successful ownership tenures, (Blair was the only Boston operator to separately take both an AM and a FM to #1, 12+, something that CBS, Westinghouse, RKO, Plough, Kaiser-Globe, Fairbanks, Charles River and Champion each couldn't accomplish). John Blair and Co. was acquired in 1987 by Reliance Capital Group which immediately flipped Blair's broadcasting holdings to Sconnix Broadcasting L.P. (flagship: WLNH, Laconia NH) for $152 million. The package included KVIL, Dallas; WIBG Indianapolis and WFLA, Tampa, and their co-owned FMs. In order to acquire WCOZ, Sconnix divested its previously acquired WBOS to Ackerly, and eventually sold theformer WHDH-FM, by then WZOU, to Ardman. Sconnix sold WHDH in 1992 for $14 million to an entity called WHDH-AM Inc., a wholly owned unit of David Mugar's New England Television. Sconnix kept the real estate and towers. Mugar later bailed and sold WHDH to Atlantic Radio around the same time he sold Ch. 7 to Sunshine. Atlantic soon announced a merger with Boston-based Pyramid (WXKS), but that blew up and Atlantic merged instead with the Maryland-based Stoner stations, and a Hartford station owned by former Sports Huddle producer Dangerous Dave Pearlman, to form American Radio Systems. ARS cashed out during the height of 1990s consolidation. Its principals, who were never broadcasters, saw more profit in antenna sites and created American Tower as an ARS subsidiary, placing ownership of its station towers, sites and leases with the tower company and acquiring still others. American Tower was spun off to shareholders as a separate company, while the parent ARS merged into CBS. The erstwhile WHDH along with WRKO, WAAF and WCGY were placed in trust to avoid market concentration rules, and sold to Entercom for $140 million. The WHDH real estate, meanwhile, stayed with Sconnix and a subsidiary called Channel Broadcasting until 1998 when American Tower acquired the real propertys. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Wed Jun 17 21:29:03 2015 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:29:03 -0700 Subject: Kuhner announces move to noon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1434590943.89955.YahooMailBasic@web126006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> On Wed, 6/17/15, Bob Nelson wrote: >> Kuhner said his ratings have been through the roof in mornings (despite what his haters online claim). <<< P25-54: May 1.8 share 19th Place beaten by WXLO, WGBH and WXRV, (Barely beats WCTK in New Bedford) April 0.9 share 22nd place Mar 0.9 share 22nd place Feb 1.1 share 19th place >> He said a decision was made to drop Rush and put him in at noon as an ?anchor of the station?. << Does he really think anyone is buying this? From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Wed Jun 17 21:30:34 2015 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:30:34 -0700 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> On Wed, 6/17/15, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: >> One of my clients has a station on 1410 in Hyde Park. <<<< There's a station in HP on 1410????? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Jun 17 21:37:42 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:37:42 -0400 Subject: Kuhner announces move to noon In-Reply-To: <1434590943.89955.YahooMailBasic@web126006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1434590943.89955.YahooMailBasic@web126006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Indeed and how many people realize AM and PM drive are prime time for something like talk radio? This amounts to a demotion. Yes maybe he'll get a few stations to sign up around here. That might be it. It'll be like Michael Graham's syndie show that ran at noon on some also ran stations. On Jun 17, 2015 9:32 PM, "D. A." wrote: > > On Wed, 6/17/15, Bob Nelson wrote: > > >> > Kuhner said his ratings have been through the roof in > mornings (despite > what his haters online claim). > <<< > > P25-54: > > May 1.8 share 19th Place beaten by WXLO, WGBH and WXRV, (Barely beats > WCTK in New Bedford) > April 0.9 share 22nd place > Mar 0.9 share 22nd place > Feb 1.1 share 19th place > > > >> > He said a decision was made > to drop Rush and > put him in at noon as an ?anchor of the station?. > << > > Does he really think anyone is buying this? > > > From elipolo881@gmail.com Thu Jun 18 02:52:38 2015 From: elipolo881@gmail.com (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 02:52:38 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:30 PM, D. A. wrote: > > On Wed, 6/17/15, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > >> One of my clients has a station on 1410 in Hyde Park. > > There's a station in HP on 1410????? > Yes, it's Alex Langer's WZBR. Formerly a Brockton station, Langer moved it north to the Hyde Park/Dedham line. It's a Brazilian and/or Portuguese format. 2300 watts daytime, 25 watts nighttime. EP From 011010001@interpring.com Thu Jun 18 10:06:59 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 10:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Kuhner announces move to noon In-Reply-To: <5581D17A.6060707@donnahalper.com> References: <5581D17A.6060707@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Donna Halper wrote: > For the life of me, I don't understand why Boston owners keep recycling the > same old tired right-wing talk. Not asking for more Liberal Talk (although > that would be a nice change), but surely there are some other talkers rather > than rounding up the usual suspects... There are; they talk about sports. Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Thu Jun 18 12:28:02 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Eli Polonsky wrote: > Yes, it's Alex Langer's WZBR. Formerly a Brockton station, Langer moved it > north to the Hyde Park/Dedham line. It's a Brazilian and/or Portuguese > format. 2300 watts daytime, 25 watts nighttime. That's the station. The IBOC interference from 1430 extends down to 1412, making 1410 essentially unlistenable within a couple miles of the 1430 site. Unfortunately that includes the heavily Brazilian neighborhood of East Somerville. This is one of two cases where I've found IBOC interference affecting the daytime reception of stations in their home market (the other is WTSN AM 1270 in Dover, NH, whose coverage in Seabrook and Hampton, NH is affected by interference from WMKI 1260 in Boston). Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Thu Jun 18 16:00:27 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I just got a report that the !@#$%& IBOC is back on. The person at the FCC who thought this was a good idea should be roasted over a slow fire. Rob From map@mapinternet.com Fri Jun 19 13:45:59 2015 From: map@mapinternet.com (M.Casey) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 13:45:59 -0400 Subject: 1410 vs WKOX 1430 AM HD intereference In-Reply-To: References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The FCC should realize that AM HD is mostly a failure and will be mostly a failure in the future. The sound is very good, but only when the signal is good and there's not a noisy computer or other interference source in the area. It drops out when any kind of noise is encountered, and that's just the location when the listener really needs the noise-free digital signal-- so any interference areas are a lose-lose situation for AM HD. Hardly any listeners are using it. One reason for the low amount of listeners is the way the (HD) Market has formed in the last few years shows that many, maybe most, of those AM HD stations ALSO have their signal on a -2 or -3 channel of an FM HD station, so, even given the FM HD coverage limitations, with the lack of robustness in AM HD's ability to handle local noise, most listeners will choose the FM HD-2 or -3 signal over the AM HD one. And, as demonstrated in Boston, many listeners of adjacent and second adjacent channel stations are affected negatively. It would not be a bad thing if the FCC gave a year or 2 for current AM HD's to be turned off and turned off sooner if provable interference complaints within reasonable service contours of those adjacent stations are on record. FM HD shows different and much more positive results. I really hope it succeeds. Some of the early home recievers were not very robust, but my 2014 Subaru HD car radio really works superb. Even with the limited coverage, it works much better than I expected. If every, or nearly every new car came with an FM HD radio, that would probably assure success. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Rob Landry Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:00 PM To: eli@wmbr.org Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? I just got a report that the !@#$%& IBOC is back on. The person at the FCC who thought this was a good idea should be roasted over a slow fire. Rob ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4800 / Virus Database: 4365/10053 - Release Date: 06/19/15 From john@minutemancomm.com Fri Jun 19 18:31:16 2015 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:31:16 -0400 Subject: 1410 vs WKOX 1430 AM HD intereference In-Reply-To: References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I actually love it and think it works pretty good. Both Mia and BZ almost sound like FM stations on my car radio. I can drive right from Newton through downtown Boston listening to MIa and not hear a touch of interference. I would never listen to AM without HD. I was always a complete FM listener till HD radio. I think it's the only thing that can save the AM dial. In fact they probably should go with only digital transmissions on AM and get rid of Analog. AMs are dying and DXers aren't going to save it. It needs to sound more like FM. The iPod generation doesn't need fm but they need something better than what AM brings them. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2015, at 1:45 PM, M.Casey wrote: > > The FCC should realize that AM HD is mostly a failure and will be mostly a failure in the future. The sound is very good, but only when the signal is good and there's not a noisy computer or other interference source in the area. It drops out when any kind of noise is encountered, and that's just the location when the listener really needs the noise-free digital signal-- so any interference areas are a lose-lose situation for AM HD. Hardly any listeners are using it. One reason for the low amount of listeners is the way the (HD) Market has formed in the last few years shows that many, maybe most, of those AM HD stations ALSO have their signal on a -2 or -3 channel of an FM HD station, so, even given the FM HD coverage limitations, with the lack of robustness in AM HD's ability to handle local noise, most listeners will choose the FM HD-2 or -3 signal over the AM HD one. And, as demonstrated in Boston, many listeners of adjacent and second adjacent channel stations are affected negatively. It would not be a bad thing if the FCC gave a year or 2 for current AM HD's to be turned off and turned off sooner if provable interference complaints within reasonable service contours of those adjacent stations are on record. > > FM HD shows different and much more positive results. I really hope it succeeds. Some of the early home recievers were not very robust, but my 2014 Subaru HD car radio really works superb. Even with the limited coverage, it works much better than I expected. If every, or nearly every new car came with an FM HD radio, that would probably assure success. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- From: Rob Landry > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:00 PM > To: eli@wmbr.org > Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? > > > I just got a report that the !@#$%& IBOC is back on. > > The person at the FCC who thought this was a good idea should be roasted > over a slow fire. > > > Rob > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4800 / Virus Database: 4365/10053 - Release Date: 06/19/15 > From 011010001@interpring.com Fri Jun 19 22:20:17 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 22:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: 1410 vs WKOX 1430 AM HD intereference In-Reply-To: References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Jun 2015, John Mullaney wrote: > In fact they probably should go with only digital transmissions on AM > and get rid of Analog. If they do that, it should be DRM not HD Radio. DRM will work on skywaves; HD will not. Reports I've heard suggest DRM is just a better engineered system. DRM doesn't have a hybrid mode; it's pure digital, and unless I'm wrong, it doesn't wipe out stations on other channels. Rob From scott@fybush.com Fri Jun 19 22:35:00 2015 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 22:35:00 -0400 Subject: 1410 vs WKOX 1430 AM HD intereference In-Reply-To: References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5584D154.5030305@fybush.com> On 6/19/2015 10:20 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > If they do that, it should be DRM not HD Radio. DRM will work on > skywaves; HD will not. Reports I've heard suggest DRM is just a better > engineered system. I've got over an hour of crystal-clear recorded audio from here in Rochester during the WBT Charlotte all-digital testing that says all-digital HD works via skywave. s From map@mapinternet.com Sat Jun 20 14:40:22 2015 From: map@mapinternet.com (M.Casey) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:40:22 -0400 Subject: 1410 vs WKOX 1430 AM HD intereference In-Reply-To: <5584D154.5030305@fybush.com> References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5584D154.5030305@fybush.com> Message-ID: I think that both of you are correct. AM HD, as it is presently implemented, does not really work. Yes, in a maximum skywave area for WBZ (about 300+ miles west) last fall, traveling south from Rochester, NY to Harrisburg, PA, at night, the WBZ AM HD signal came in many times and held, but only to a maximum of less than 2 minutes. And, on that trip, most of the time HD would not decode while WBZ's skywave analog signal was very listenable. Farther out, in an area of eastern NC that I regularly travel to, WBZ, about 600 miles northeast, is often the strongest station on the dial at night, but HD decoding is rare. I've heard the same about DRM, at least in some ways, being a better system, but that means that similtaneous analog is not possible--not a practical solution. And it makes sense that a full power all-digital signal like what was used in the WBT test would work via skywave, but again the same problem as DRM--analog FM would not be possible. Ironically, even though TV are much more expensive, I believe, It would be much harder on radio listeners to convert to all digital than it was for TV users. Radio is with us everywhere--cars, jobsite, beach, work, bedroom, bathroom, garage, walking & jogging--not so for TV. The proposal for the changeover of TV CH 5&6 that was floated in 2008 has some good points. A scheme similar to the implementation of 1600-1700 band might work. An AM station gets a (Hybrid) IBOC FM HD channel in the 76-88 MHz segment. The AM and FM both operate for a year. Then the applicant chooses one or the other. Eventually number of stations on the AM band declines and there could be some "refarming" of the AM band to lessen interference. Then, maybe some of the remaining regional and local AM stations could move to allow for a few new higher power (more than 50kw) AM stations to serve wide areas, rural areas, and help satisfy emergency broadcast needs. It would be much easier on the listening public to add 76-88 MHz to new radios and use the current Hybrid IBOC HD system than to turn off analog which would require everyone to buy new all-digital radios. These ideas have been around for more than 10 years. This could have been mostly completed by now. AM will still be around in 10, probably even 20 or 30 years. Why not start with this 76-88 MHz idea now. Yes, some TV stations (just about all of those are very low power) would have to be refarmed right away. Here's an aside-- While eliminating Ch 5 & 6 TV in favor of FM Broadcast, Allow much higher power digital TV stations on channels 2, 3, 4, and 7-13 in order to restore TV service to the many folks in rural and mountainous areas like in central & northern New England that have LOST all, or nearly all TV reception since digital TV was implemented. Stations on channel 2, 3, or 4 with decent power on big hills like Mt Mansfield, Washington, Ascutney, Greylock, or even Wachusett would help that situation. The TV stations located at Mt. Wilson in the Los Angeles, CA market that stayed on VHF have been permitted up to 4x the maximum power originally allowed for digital TV by the FCC. Mark Casey -----Original Message----- From: Scott Fybush Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 10:35 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: 1410 vs WKOX 1430 AM HD intereference On 6/19/2015 10:20 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > If they do that, it should be DRM not HD Radio. DRM will work on > skywaves; HD will not. Reports I've heard suggest DRM is just a better > engineered system. I've got over an hour of crystal-clear recorded audio from here in Rochester during the WBT Charlotte all-digital testing that says all-digital HD works via skywave. s ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4800 / Virus Database: 4365/10058 - Release Date: 06/20/15 From john@minutemancomm.com Sat Jun 20 16:30:41 2015 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 16:30:41 -0400 Subject: 1410 vs WKOX 1430 AM HD intereference In-Reply-To: References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5584D154.5030305@fybush.com> Message-ID: Again you guys are old school AM listeners and those days are gone. Skywave is a waste of money and time. Today these stations only matter in the local markets they serve regularly. The fact you can occasionally get them a few state away is nostalgic but it matters only to a few of you. It makes them no additional revenue for them as stations advertising is not sold that way today. AM stations are in big trouble. Many make fractions of the income they used to make and their value is at an all time low. The only hope is to make them sound as close to FM in their market areas as possible. I agree HD radio may not be best digital technology for AM but right now it is the easiest way an owner can make his AM sound much better on many car radios. And more and more cars are getting them. Down the road I think an all digital new format would be better but not with any concerns for sky wave. It ought be looked at as a way to just make this band more profitable again offer better fidelity, less prone to interference and offer some other digital delivery income from traffic and other devices. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 20, 2015, at 2:40 PM, M.Casey wrote: > > I think that both of you are correct. > > AM HD, as it is presently implemented, does not really work. Yes, in a maximum skywave area for WBZ (about 300+ miles west) last fall, traveling south from Rochester, NY to Harrisburg, PA, at night, the WBZ AM HD signal came in many times and held, but only to a maximum of less than 2 minutes. And, on that trip, most of the time HD would not decode while WBZ's skywave analog signal was very listenable. Farther out, in an area of eastern NC that I regularly travel to, WBZ, about 600 miles northeast, is often the strongest station on the dial at night, but HD decoding is rare. > > I've heard the same about DRM, at least in some ways, being a better system, but that means that similtaneous analog is not possible--not a practical solution. > > And it makes sense that a full power all-digital signal like what was used in the WBT test would work via skywave, but again the same problem as DRM--analog FM would not be possible. > > Ironically, even though TV are much more expensive, I believe, It would be much harder on radio listeners to convert to all digital than it was for TV users. Radio is with us everywhere--cars, jobsite, beach, work, bedroom, bathroom, garage, walking & jogging--not so for TV. > > The proposal for the changeover of TV CH 5&6 that was floated in 2008 has some good points. A scheme similar to the implementation of 1600-1700 band might work. An AM station gets a (Hybrid) IBOC FM HD channel in the 76-88 MHz segment. The AM and FM both operate for a year. Then the applicant chooses one or the other. Eventually number of stations on the AM band declines and there could be some "refarming" of the AM band to lessen interference. Then, maybe some of the remaining regional and local AM stations could move to allow for a few new higher power (more than 50kw) AM stations to serve wide areas, rural areas, and help satisfy emergency broadcast needs. > > It would be much easier on the listening public to add 76-88 MHz to new radios and use the current Hybrid IBOC HD system than to turn off analog which would require everyone to buy new all-digital radios. > > These ideas have been around for more than 10 years. This could have been mostly completed by now. AM will still be around in 10, probably even 20 or 30 years. Why not start with this 76-88 MHz idea now. Yes, some TV stations (just about all of those are very low power) would have to be refarmed right away. > > Here's an aside-- While eliminating Ch 5 & 6 TV in favor of FM Broadcast, Allow much higher power digital TV stations on channels 2, 3, 4, and 7-13 in order to restore TV service to the many folks in rural and mountainous areas like in central & northern New England that have LOST all, or nearly all TV reception since digital TV was implemented. Stations on channel 2, 3, or 4 with decent power on big hills like Mt Mansfield, Washington, Ascutney, Greylock, or even Wachusett would help that situation. The TV stations located at Mt. Wilson in the Los Angeles, CA market that stayed on VHF have been permitted up to 4x the maximum power originally allowed for digital TV by the FCC. > > Mark Casey > > -----Original Message----- From: Scott Fybush > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 10:35 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: 1410 vs WKOX 1430 AM HD intereference > >> On 6/19/2015 10:20 PM, Rob Landry wrote: >> >> If they do that, it should be DRM not HD Radio. DRM will work on >> skywaves; HD will not. Reports I've heard suggest DRM is just a better >> engineered system. > > I've got over an hour of crystal-clear recorded audio from here in > Rochester during the WBT Charlotte all-digital testing that says > all-digital HD works via skywave. > > s > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4800 / Virus Database: 4365/10058 - Release Date: 06/20/15 > From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jun 22 00:14:45 2015 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:14:45 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <55878BB5.6040502@attorneyross.com> Where is the transmitter? Is it in Boston? At one time it was observed around here that WBZ's auxiliary transmitter was currently the only AM transmitter within the city of Boston. Has this changed? On 6/18/2015 2:52 AM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > Yes, it's Alex Langer's WZBR. Formerly a Brockton station, Langer > moved it north to the Hyde Park/Dedham line. It's a Brazilian and/or > Portuguese format. 2300 watts daytime, 25 watts nighttime. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Jun 22 01:56:00 2015 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:56:00 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: <55878BB5.6040502@attorneyross.com> References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <55878BB5.6040502@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: WZBR's transmitter appears to be in Hyde Park but very close to the Dedham border. Around Inman Sq Cambridge I can hear them by day but at night 1430 hash wipes them out. On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 12:14 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > Where is the transmitter? Is it in Boston? > > At one time it was observed around here that WBZ's auxiliary transmitter > was currently the only AM transmitter within the city of Boston. Has this > changed? > > > > On 6/18/2015 2:52 AM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > > Yes, it's Alex Langer's WZBR. Formerly a Brockton station, Langer moved >> it north to the Hyde Park/Dedham line. It's a Brazilian and/or Portuguese >> format. 2300 watts daytime, 25 watts nighttime. >> > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > > From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Jun 22 07:08:01 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:08:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: 1410 vs WKOX 1430 AM HD intereference In-Reply-To: References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5584D154.5030305@fybush.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Jun 2015, John Mullaney wrote: > Again you guys are old school AM listeners and those days are gone. > Skywave is a waste of money and time. Today these stations only matter > in the local markets they serve regularly. Skywave is a necessary consequence of medium wave broadcasting. Local stations will get skywave interference, both from stations in other markets and from their own skywave. A modulation scheme that can't tolerate skywave doesn't belong on medium wave. Moreover, one of the few advantages medium wave has over FM is its ability to be heard at a distance. The AM band should properly be used for regional services; local services belong on FM, where skywave isn't an issue and lots of local stations can be accommodated without the directional antenna patterns that are so common n AM. > AM stations are in big trouble. Many make fractions of the income they > used to make and their value is at an all time low. The only hope is to > make them sound as close to FM in their market areas as possible. I > agree HD radio may not be best digital technology for AM but right now > it is the easiest way an owner can make his AM sound much better on many > car radios. And more and more cars are getting them. One of the reasons AM stations are in trouble is the vastly greater amounts of noise and interference on the band. IBOC exacerbates that problem. I was listening to WTSN yesterday morning driving south on I-95 from Portland to Dover. The IBOC noise from 1260 in Boston is audible even in Portland. IBOC is a counterproductive technology; it interferes with stations far beyond the areas it's intended to serve. If WTSN added IBOC, you can be sure 1260 would lose a lot of its digital coverage. The FCC has seriously mismanaged the AM band over the years. IBOC is only the latest of myriad wrong-headed and short-signted FCC decisions affecting AM. Lawyers and lobbyists should not be managing radio spectrum. Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Jun 22 07:10:08 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: <55878BB5.6040502@attorneyross.com> References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <55878BB5.6040502@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Jun 2015, A Joseph Ross wrote: > Where is the transmitter? Is it in Boston? It's on Sprague Street in Hyde Park, near the Readville commuter rail station. > At one time it was observed around here that WBZ's auxiliary transmitter was > currently the only AM transmitter within the city of Boston. Has this > changed? Yes. Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Jun 22 07:12:22 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <55878BB5.6040502@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Jun 2015, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Around Inman Sq Cambridge I can hear them by day but at night 1430 hash > wipes them out. At night WZBR drops to 25 watts. In Dedham, the nighttime signal is pretty solid, but in Needham Heights I hear mostly Montreal and Hartford at night. Rob From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Jun 22 02:52:23 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 02:52:23 -0400 Subject: Rush and talk to WKOX 1430? In-Reply-To: <55878BB5.6040502@attorneyross.com> References: <1434591034.4902.YahooMailBasic@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <55878BB5.6040502@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: The transmitter co-ordinates on radio-locator show it to be next to Sprague Pond and just south of the Readville commuter rail stop and close to Dedham. but apparently the site from the map appears to be in Readville, part of Hyde Park. On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 12:14 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > Where is the transmitter? Is it in Boston? > > At one time it was observed around here that WBZ's auxiliary transmitter > was currently the only AM transmitter within the city of Boston. Has this > changed? > > > On 6/18/2015 2:52 AM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > > Yes, it's Alex Langer's WZBR. Formerly a Brockton station, Langer moved >> it north to the Hyde Park/Dedham line. It's a Brazilian and/or Portuguese >> format. 2300 watts daytime, 25 watts nighttime. >> > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > > From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jun 23 00:39:04 2015 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 00:39:04 -0400 Subject: Geomagnetic Storm Watch tonight In-Reply-To: <554025983.31621552.1434992914714.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <554025983.31621552.1434992914714.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5588E2E8.2020400@attorneyross.com> This could result in some strange skywave behavior in the next few days. http://www.softservenews.com/en/aurora-borealis-breaking-news/aurora-storm-watch-news-300066.html -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From map@mapinternet.com Tue Jun 23 15:10:21 2015 From: map@mapinternet.com (M.Casey) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:10:21 -0400 Subject: Geomagnetic Storm Watch tonight In-Reply-To: <5588E2E8.2020400@attorneyross.com> References: <554025983.31621552.1434992914714.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <5588E2E8.2020400@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <761435ACDA264C38BBF03C90CDA618B2@laptop> Could result in very diminished skywave, or almost none at all. Mark Casey -----Original Message----- From: A Joseph Ross Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:39 AM To: Boston Radio Subject: Geomagnetic Storm Watch tonight This could result in some strange skywave behavior in the next few days. http://www.softservenews.com/en/aurora-borealis-breaking-news/aurora-storm-watch-news-300066.html -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4800 / Virus Database: 4365/10086 - Release Date: 06/23/15 From richard@chonak.com Tue Jun 23 16:23:39 2015 From: richard@chonak.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:23:39 -0400 Subject: WHEB's Andy Blacksmith, r.i.p. Message-ID: <5589C04B.6000508@chonak.com> This seems to have slipped by us the other day: Andy Blacksmith of WHEB, a long-time heart patient, passed away on Saturday at Brigham & Women's Hospital. http://www.fosters.com/article/20150621/NEWS/150629903 > The news was broken to the local community via a Facebook post by > the morning talk show?s host Greg Kretschmar on Sunday morning. > > ?It is with heartbreaking sadness that we announce that we have > lost our friend, brother, and co-worker Andy Blacksmith,? > Kretschmar wrote. ?Although he fought valiantly in the face of > long odds, this weekend, his heart grew too weak to fight anymore.? > > The 50-year-old had spent the last five years awaiting a heart > transplant and only recently received a surgery to stabilize his > own weakened one during the continued wait for a donor. Blacksmith > was airlifted to Boston from Portsmouth Regional Hospital on > Tuesday following heart complications, according to a statement > from station owner iHeartMedia New Hampshire. > > Although the airwaves will now be missing a voice that wasn?t > afraid to tell it like it was, Blacksmith can still be heard > bantering back and forth with the other members of the Morning > Buzz. The station ran segments titled ?Best of The Buzz? > throughout the afternoon on Sunday and a show dedicated to > Blacksmith?s life will air when ?Greg & The Morning Buzz? returns. > From markwats@comcast.net Tue Jun 23 17:31:07 2015 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:31:07 -0400 Subject: Jack Williams Officially Retiring From WBZ-TV Message-ID: <005101d0adfb$eb10d5d0$c1328170$@comcast.net> New England 1, a website that keeps track of comings and goings in New England TV news operations, reports that WBZ-TV's Jack Williams will be officially retiring from the station, this Thursday (6/25) being his last day, ending a 40 year run on Channel 4. Last year Jack stepped down from the anchor desk but continued to produce his "Wednesday's Child" segments, appear on some special event coverage and occasionally fill in on the anchor desk. Although not noted in the NE1 article, Jack also filled in as a talk host "down the hall" on WBZ Radio, notably when the late David Brudnoy and the late Paul Sullivan were going through their health battles. Link to the NE1 article: http://www.newenglandone.cohttp://www.newenglandone.com/news/local-news/item /1094-jack-williams-officially-retiring-from-wbz.html Mark Watson From markwa1ion@aol.com Tue Jun 23 20:13:19 2015 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:13:19 -0400 Subject: Geomagnetic Storm Watch tonight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14e22e96c1a-34a3-15f8c@webprd-a105.mail.aol.com> We had similar conditions in late March. Latin Americans came in very well on the AM broadcast band. There was also quite a bit from Florida. The following, containing audio clips, gives an idea of what I heard here in South Yarmouth, MA: http://www.qsl.net/wa1ion/doc1/audio_march2015.htm Mark Connelly (WA1ION) -----Original Message----- From A Joseph Ross To Boston Radio Subject Geomagnetic Storm Watch tonight Date Tue, 23 Jun 2015 00:39:04 -0400 This could result in some strange skywave behavior in the next few days. http://www.softservenews.com/en/aurora-borealis-breaking-news/aurora-storm-watch-news-300066.html -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Jun 24 09:16:40 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:16:40 -0400 Subject: WMEX sold for $175k Message-ID: Salem bought WMKI for $500k, right? Now WMEX is sold for even less to Daly XXL\ https://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/93436/daly-xxl-converts-wmex-boston-lma-to-purchase/ From 011010001@interpring.com Wed Jun 24 09:45:06 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:45:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WMEX sold for $175k In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow. That's well below what it would cost to rebuild the transmitter site. I wonder how much the rent and utilities at that site cost. Rob On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Bob Nelson wrote: > Salem bought WMKI for $500k, right? Now WMEX is sold for even less to Daly > XXL\ > > https://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/93436/daly-xxl-converts-wmex-boston-lma-to-purchase/ > From Jibguy@aol.com Wed Jun 24 09:59:03 2015 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:59:03 -0400 Subject: WMEX sold for $175k Message-ID: <11de5f.217df503.42bc11a7@aol.com> Rumor has it... Rent $25,000 a month. Tower site electricity $4,500 a month. That's about $360,000.00 a year, just to keep the tower site running... Then there music royalties, FCC Regulatory Fees, Studio costs, employees, payroll taxes, tower light replacements. The station will (and has) destroy anyone who owns it. That said.... would I buy it for $175k? Probably yes, since with better coverage day & night, I'll bet I'd get that much from fundraising efforts. But I'd have to be in a very daring mood. ----jibguy In a message dated 6/24/2015 9:50:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 011010001@interpring.com writes: Wow. That's well below what it would cost to rebuild the transmitter site. I wonder how much the rent and utilities at that site cost. Rob On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Bob Nelson wrote: > Salem bought WMKI for $500k, right? Now WMEX is sold for even less to Daly > XXL\ > > https://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/93436/daly-xxl-converts-wmex-boston-lma-to-purchase/ > From rbello@belloassoc.com Wed Jun 24 10:06:58 2015 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:06:58 -0400 Subject: WMEX sold for $175k Message-ID: Could be purchasing only the license ? May be leasing equipment and sticks ? Without reviewing contract, we do not know. What a financial hit for Blackstrap --------------------------------------------------- On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > Salem bought WMKI for $500k, right? Now WMEX is sold for even less to Daly > XXL\ > > > https://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/93436/daly-xxl-converts-wmex-boston-lma-to-purchase/ > From Jibguy@aol.com Wed Jun 24 12:28:08 2015 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:28:08 -0400 Subject: WMEX sold for $175k Message-ID: <1252b8.7c08bb21.42bc3498@aol.com> $175k gets them all the studio and transmitter site equipment, including the transmitter, cables, wiring, the "antennae" and underground radials. All they don't get is the land underneath the towers. But I didn't see any mention of the physical dog houses. I can't imagine they would be owned by the landlord. ----jibguy In a message dated 6/24/2015 11:13:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rbello@belloassoc.com writes: Could be purchasing only the license ? May be leasing equipment and sticks ? Without reviewing contract, we do not know. What a financial hit for Blackstrap --------------------------------------------------- On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > Salem bought WMKI for $500k, right? Now WMEX is sold for even less to Daly > XXL\ > > > https://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/93436/daly-xxl-converts-wmex-boston-lma-to-purchase/ > From scott@fybush.com Wed Jun 24 12:14:53 2015 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:14:53 -0400 Subject: WMEX sold for $175k In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We do know. Blackstrap does not own the land in Waltham and is reportedly paying a hefty sum in rent, which is a big reason why it has been so hard for anyone to succeed with 1510. On Jun 24, 2015 11:00 AM, "Ron Bello" wrote: > Could be purchasing only the license ? > May be leasing equipment and sticks ? > Without reviewing contract, we do not know. > > What a financial hit for Blackstrap > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Bob Nelson > wrote: > > > Salem bought WMKI for $500k, right? Now WMEX is sold for even less to > Daly > > XXL\ > > > > > > > https://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/93436/daly-xxl-converts-wmex-boston-lma-to-purchase/ > > > From 011010001@interpring.com Wed Jun 24 15:51:31 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:51:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WMEX sold for $175k In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Ron Bello wrote: > What a financial hit for Blackstrap Notes to self: 1) Never march on Moscow; 2) Never get involved in a land war in Asia; 3) Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line; and 4) Never buy 1510 in Boston! Rob From bob.bosra@demattia.net Wed Jun 24 16:07:02 2015 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:07:02 -0400 Subject: WMEX sold for $175k In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They never should have moved it out of the Quincy marshes. -Bob On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > We do know. Blackstrap does not own the land in Waltham and is reportedly > paying a hefty sum in rent, which is a big reason why it has been so hard > for anyone to succeed with 1510. > On Jun 24, 2015 11:00 AM, "Ron Bello" wrote: > > > Could be purchasing only the license ? > > May be leasing equipment and sticks ? > > Without reviewing contract, we do not know. > > > > What a financial hit for Blackstrap > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Bob Nelson > > wrote: > > > > > Salem bought WMKI for $500k, right? Now WMEX is sold for even less to > > Daly > > > XXL\ > > > > > > > > > > > > https://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/93436/daly-xxl-converts-wmex-boston-lma-to-purchase/ > > > > > > From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Jun 24 17:45:11 2015 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:45:11 -0400 Subject: WMEX sold for $175k In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21899.9447.605366.777380@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > We do know. Blackstrap does not own the land in Waltham and is reportedly > paying a hefty sum in rent, which is a big reason why it has been so hard > for anyone to succeed with 1510. I wonder: what are the downgrade/relocation opportunities for 1510? Is there some place they could move that would work and still have reasonable power? The downgrade of KGA means the only class-A station left on the channel is WLAC and that ought to be doable.... I suppose the ideal location would be the old 1330 site in Waltham -- too bad it's gone. -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 24 16:56:30 2015 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:56:30 -0400 Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <558B197E.9010004@attorneyross.com> On 6/24/2015 10:34 AM, Bob Bittner via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: > Rumor has it... Rent $25,000 a month. Tower site electricity $4,500 a > month. That's about $360,000.00 a year, just to keep the tower site > running... Then there music royalties, FCC Regulatory Fees, Studio costs, > employees, payroll taxes, tower light replacements. The station will (and has) > destroy anyone who owns it. > That said.... would I buy it for $175k? Probably yes, since with better > coverage day & night, I'll bet I'd get that much from fundraising efforts. > But I'd have to be in a very daring mood. > ----jibguy Would the current WMEX signal get you better coverage than you get now from WJIB? Better still, could you discard the present WMEX transmitter site and diplex somehow from the WJIB tower? We're just speculating, of course, but could WMEX be made to work better that way? I'm guessing that the best way to make WMEX work would be to get rid of that tower site and arrange to diplex from someone else's tower(s). I wonder whether that's even doable, given the directional pattern they'd need in order to protect whatever other signals WMEX needs to protect. Or could some other frequency be found for WMEX where it could get better coverage diplexing from another tower? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From 011010001@interpring.com Thu Jun 25 05:02:25 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WMEX sold for $175k In-Reply-To: <21899.9447.605366.777380@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <21899.9447.605366.777380@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Garrett Wollman wrote: > I suppose the ideal location would be the old 1330 site in Waltham -- > too bad it's gone. WNTN's Rumford Avenue site is right across the river, though. Rob From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Thu Jun 25 05:23:27 2015 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:23:27 -0400 Subject: WMEX sold for $175k In-Reply-To: <21899.9447.605366.777380@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <21899.9447.605366.777380@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1435224208806-334a8111-6a2d819b-f597e161@yahoo.com> Does 1510 have to protect anything in Canada? I forget. Would the 1330/1600 site be anywhere near feasible? Sent using CloudMagic [https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=pi&cv=6.4.21&pv=8.3] On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: < said: > We do know. Blackstrap does not own the land in Waltham and is reportedly > paying a hefty sum in rent, which is a big reason why it has been so hard > for anyone to succeed with 1510. I wonder: what are the downgrade/relocation opportunities for 1510? Is there some place they could move that would work and still have reasonable power? The downgrade of KGA means the only class-A station left on the channel is WLAC and that ought to be doable.... I suppose the ideal location would be the old 1330 site in Waltham -- too bad it's gone. -GAWollman From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Jun 25 08:47:13 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:47:13 -0400 Subject: WRKO makes new lineup official Message-ID: Entercom has announced Monday as the start date for its new lineup at WRKO 680 which will be all local by day for the first time in 20 years; the new boston.com morning show will have Kim Carrigan along with Jon Meterperel. "The show will lean heavily on contributing writers and columnists from the highly-trafficked, regional website as well as national correspondents from ABC News" Kuhner moves to noon. They will unveil the new slogan The Voice of Boston. They certainly are accenting the local angle; iHeart's new 1430 debuts the same day, all syndicated. WMEX is also all local by day, with Joe Ligotti, Boston Herald Radio, Renegade Radio and Michele McPhee then they go syndie. Should 1260 become an "Answer" all talk station, it probably will feature nothing but syndie hosts with the possible exception of morning drive (if Salem's Pittsburgh outlet is any indication). From TVNETDUDE@aol.com Thu Jun 25 16:28:04 2015 From: TVNETDUDE@aol.com (TVNETDUDE@aol.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:28:04 -0400 Subject: WMEX sold for $175k Message-ID: <148bbb.3e017b5b.42bdbe53@aol.com> It has already been suggested also powering down the transmitter after midnight. >>>I wonder: what are the downgrade/relocation opportunities for 1510? Is there some place they could move that would work and still have reasonable power? The downgrade of KGA means the only class-A station left on the channel is WLAC and that ought to be doable....<<< From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Jun 25 17:30:57 2015 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:30:57 -0400 Subject: WMEX sold for $175k In-Reply-To: <148bbb.3e017b5b.42bdbe53@aol.com> References: <148bbb.3e017b5b.42bdbe53@aol.com> Message-ID: <21900.29457.605863.737853@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < It has already been suggested also powering down the transmitter after > midnight. Won't save them a dime on rent, which is probably their biggest issue. -GAWollman From aerie.ma@comcast.net Mon Jun 29 12:19:35 2015 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:19:35 -0400 Subject: WKOX Message-ID: <000e01d0b287$64642c40$2d2c84c0$@comcast.net> I was in my car at 11:45 and 1430 was still in Spanish. With noon approaching, I had to decide whether to listen to Kuhner try to convince his audience that moving to mid-day is a promotion from AM drive, or to listen to the changeover on WKOX. I opted for the latter. The first words spoken on Talk1430 were a mis-identification as "WKOX Boston" (not even a whispered "Everett"). Did they get a change of city of license, or is this just predictable sloppiness from corporate radio? Then right into Fox News and Rush. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Jun 29 14:58:07 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 14:58:07 -0400 Subject: WKOX In-Reply-To: <001601d0b290$02b697e0$0823c7a0$@comcast.net> References: <000e01d0b287$64642c40$2d2c84c0$@comcast.net> <001601d0b290$02b697e0$0823c7a0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: OK,great..I tuned in maybe a minute or to after that legal ID. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Jun 29 13:05:39 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:05:39 -0400 Subject: WKOX In-Reply-To: <000e01d0b287$64642c40$2d2c84c0$@comcast.net> References: <000e01d0b287$64642c40$2d2c84c0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: I also heard it and recorded it at home.Don't know if they slipped a "WKOX Everett" in some time before or after top of hr;probably not.As I told someone on twitter,they can say WKOX Boston as often as they want but must give the city of license as a top of hour legal ID. "WKLB Waltham-Boston", "WCRB Lowell-Boston",as long as that COL shows up! From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Jun 29 13:05:31 2015 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:05:31 -0400 Subject: WKOX In-Reply-To: <000e01d0b287$64642c40$2d2c84c0$@comcast.net> References: <000e01d0b287$64642c40$2d2c84c0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: I wasn't in a position to listen, but often the "top of the hour" ID isn't the legal ID. I know at least at one point that WKLB-FM was burying it's legal ID "WKLB-FM Waltham Boston" a few minutes before the hour, then using a prominent jingle on the hour announcing "Country 102.5 WKLB Boston". Maybe KOX is doing the same thing? -Bob On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > I was in my car at 11:45 and 1430 was still in Spanish. With noon > approaching, I had to decide whether to listen to Kuhner try to convince > his > audience that moving to mid-day is a promotion from AM drive, or to listen > to the changeover on WKOX. I opted for the latter. The first words spoken > on > Talk1430 were a mis-identification as "WKOX Boston" (not even a whispered > "Everett"). Did they get a change of city of license, or is this just > predictable sloppiness from corporate radio? Then right into Fox News and > Rush. > > From aerie.ma@comcast.net Mon Jun 29 18:58:34 2015 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:58:34 -0400 Subject: WKOX In-Reply-To: References: <000e01d0b287$64642c40$2d2c84c0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001e01d0b2bf$2132cf20$63986d60$@comcast.net> I guess a station could say "WWWW Boston and the Planet Mars" these days if they wanted to (radio waves go into space, after all). I remember when KABL in Oakland CA was fined and admonished by the FCC for saying "KABL Oakland....in the air everywhere over San Francisco". The FCC told them they were licensed to serve Oakland, not San Francisco, and that they should only mention Oakland in the legal ID. Interestingly, the Medford 1430 of the time (WHIL) used a similar slogan and quickly dropped it after the KABL censure. -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob DeMattia Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 1:06 PM To: Boston Radio Mailing List Subject: Re: WKOX I wasn't in a position to listen, but often the "top of the hour" ID isn't the legal ID. I know at least at one point that WKLB-FM was burying it's legal ID "WKLB-FM Waltham Boston" a few minutes before the hour, then using a prominent jingle on the hour announcing "Country 102.5 WKLB Boston". Maybe KOX is doing the same thing? -Bob From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Jun 29 20:03:40 2015 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:03:40 -0400 Subject: WKOX In-Reply-To: <001e01d0b2bf$2132cf20$63986d60$@comcast.net> References: <000e01d0b287$64642c40$2d2c84c0$@comcast.net> <001e01d0b2bf$2132cf20$63986d60$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <21905.56540.59761.824894@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I guess a station could say "WWWW Boston and the Planet Mars" these > days if they wanted to (radio waves go into space, after all). I > remember when KABL in Oakland CA was fined and admonished by the FCC > for saying "KABL Oakland....in the air everywhere over San > Francisco". The FCC told them they were licensed to serve Oakland, > not San Francisco, and that they should only mention Oakland in the > legal ID. It's been a very, very long time since the FCC took that sort of position. -GAWollman From sids1045@aol.com Mon Jun 29 20:26:07 2015 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sidney Schweiger) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:26:07 -0400 Subject: WKOX In-Reply-To: <21905.56540.59761.824894@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <000e01d0b287$64642c40$2d2c84c0$@comcast.net> <001e01d0b2bf$2132cf20$63986d60$@comcast.net> <21905.56540.59761.824894@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <370560BE-CB0A-4C13-8FAC-4B023CD92C58@aol.com> "It's been a very, very long time since the FCC took that sort of position." Almost 32 years. The legal-ID rule was amended in November 1983 to permit multiple communities in the legal ID, but the community of license must come first. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Jun 30 04:36:22 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 04:36:22 -0400 Subject: In-Reply-To: References: <000e01d0b287$64642c40$2d2c84c0$@comcast.net> <001e01d0b2bf$2132cf20$63986d60$@comcast.net> <21905.56540.59761.824894@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: WORK in Barre VT used to have a whole bunch of communities in its legal ID following the "Barre" and one TV station, Ch 44 in the Champlain Valley has an ID that manages to reference communities in two states and one province:"Burlington- Plattsburgh-Montreal". Listeners to the WAMC public radio network may hear long legal IDs mentioning all the various stations in its network, in places like Kingston, Plattsburgh and Canojaharie. In addition some of their stations have translators (WAMC has them in Hudson and Rensselaer), Wikipedia, under "Station identification", notes:"stations do not have to announce all translators each hour, but instead must ID them three times per day. All translators must be identified between 7 and 9 a.m., 12:55 and 1:05 p.m., and 4 and 6 p.m." Wikipedia also mentions interesting cases like the former KUMX Houma, LA. That's pronounced "Home-uh" so they used to say "KUMX Houma ("home o' ")-New Orleans Greatest Hits". Vermont Public Radio's TOH legal IDs mention the frequency after the COL and it can serve to help some listeners who are driving...if you're in Rutland but driving to Burlington you can make a mental note of the latter station's frequency for when the Rutland station starts to fade away. Here's an example of the TOH IDs for VPR's classical network.At the end a couple translators are mentioned but only by town and frequency ("and Rupert at 93.3")...no station ID but this must have been a time when the calls of a translator need not be mentioned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjI7KXTUm8U On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Sidney Schweiger via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Sidney Schweiger > To: Garrett Wollman > Cc: Jim Hall , Boston Radio Mailing List < > boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org> > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:26:07 -0400 > Subject: Re: WKOX > "It's been a very, very long time since the FCC took that sort of > position." > > Almost 32 years. The legal-ID rule was amended in November 1983 to permit > multiple communities in the legal ID, but the community of license must > come first. > > >