From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Dec 10 22:30:44 2015 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 22:30:44 -0500 Subject: I Am What I Play Message-ID: <8B832C51-5FB2-45BB-AB10-7672C2D0A187@mac.com> Some of us may be interested in this: There?s a screening of the documentary ?I Am What I Play? at the Regent Theater in Arlington on Wed Dec 23, hosted by Charles Laquidara. Tickets and info here: http://www.regenttheatre.com/details/i_am_what_i_play_documentary_feature_about_the_heyday_of_rock_radio. I already have my ticket, let me know if you are going to be there so we can shake hands. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Dec 11 00:14:42 2015 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:14:42 -0500 Subject: my Boston radio book In-Reply-To: <8B832C51-5FB2-45BB-AB10-7672C2D0A187@mac.com> References: <8B832C51-5FB2-45BB-AB10-7672C2D0A187@mac.com> Message-ID: <566A5BC2.2040604@donnahalper.com> I still have a few extra copies of the book I wrote about Boston radio ("Boston Radio 1920-2010"), which is the story of Boston radio in words and pictures (some really rare photos too). If you'd like one, at a very reasonable price, let me know off-list. I'll even autograph it-- and it makes a wonderful holiday gift! From 011010001@interpring.com Fri Dec 11 01:20:39 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 01:20:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: New England radio dial, 1923 Message-ID: I have in my hands a copy of _Radio for All_, a book published in 1923 by Hugo Gernsback. It includes a list of all radio stations operating in the country as of September, 1923. 833 Khz must have been a cacophony at night; note that there were three stations on that frequency in the same city (Providence)! Here are all the New England stations listed in the Gernsback book: Meters KHz Call Location Licensee ------ --- ---- -------- -------- 231 1300 WKAX BRIDGEPORT CT WILLIAM A MCFARLANE 231 1300 WEAG EDGEWOOD RI NICHOLS HINLINE BASSETT LAB. 242 1240 WQAD WATERBURY CT WHITEALL ELECT. CO. 240 1250 WABI BANGOR ME BANGOR RY AND EL. CO. 261 1150 WDAK HARTFORD CT HARTFORD COURANT 266 1127 WOAS LOWELL MA PRINCE WALTER CO. 268 1120 WPAJ NEW HAVEN CT DOOLITTLE RADIO CORP. 337 890 WBZ SPRINGFIELD MA WESTINGHOUSE ELECT. & MFG. CO. 360 833 WGI MEDFORD HILLSIDE MA AMERICAN RADIO & RESEARCH CORP. 360 833 WPAY BANGOR ME BANGOR RADIO LAB 360 833 WKAP CRANSTON RI FLINT DUTEE WILCOX 360 833 WKAV LACONIA NH LACONIA RADIO CLUB 360 833 WJAH PROVIDENCE RI THE OUTLET COMPANY 360 833 WRAH PROVIDENCE RI STANLEY N READ 360 833 WMAF DARTMOUTH MA ROUND HILLS RADIO CORP. 360 833 WEAN PROVIDENCE RI SHEPARD CO. 360 833 WNAC BOSTON MA SHEPARD STORES 360 833 WDAU NEW BEDFORD MA SLOCUM & KILBURN 360 833 WCAX BURLINGTON VT UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT 360 833 WLAK BELLOWS FALLS VT VERMONT FARMS MACH. CO. 360 833 WDAS WORCESTER MA SAMUEL A WAITE Rob -- Ya tam, gde rebjata tolkovye; Ya tam, gde plakaty "vpered!", Gde pesni rabochie novye Strana trudovaja poet. From dave@skywaves.net Fri Dec 11 11:46:08 2015 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 11:46:08 -0500 Subject: New England radio dial, 1923 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007801d13433$6fab9fb0$4f02df10$@skywaves.net> There were a lot of shared-time arrangements way back in the early days. I'll bet that's what was happening in Providence. -d -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Rob Landry Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 1:21 AM To: Boston Radio Group Subject: New England radio dial, 1923 I have in my hands a copy of _Radio for All_, a book published in 1923 by Hugo Gernsback. It includes a list of all radio stations operating in the country as of September, 1923. 833 Khz must have been a cacophony at night; note that there were three stations on that frequency in the same city (Providence)! Here are all the New England stations listed in the Gernsback book: Meters KHz Call Location Licensee ------ --- ---- -------- -------- 231 1300 WKAX BRIDGEPORT CT WILLIAM A MCFARLANE 231 1300 WEAG EDGEWOOD RI NICHOLS HINLINE BASSETT LAB. 242 1240 WQAD WATERBURY CT WHITEALL ELECT. CO. 240 1250 WABI BANGOR ME BANGOR RY AND EL. CO. 261 1150 WDAK HARTFORD CT HARTFORD COURANT 266 1127 WOAS LOWELL MA PRINCE WALTER CO. 268 1120 WPAJ NEW HAVEN CT DOOLITTLE RADIO CORP. 337 890 WBZ SPRINGFIELD MA WESTINGHOUSE ELECT. & MFG. CO. 360 833 WGI MEDFORD HILLSIDE MA AMERICAN RADIO & RESEARCH CORP. 360 833 WPAY BANGOR ME BANGOR RADIO LAB 360 833 WKAP CRANSTON RI FLINT DUTEE WILCOX 360 833 WKAV LACONIA NH LACONIA RADIO CLUB 360 833 WJAH PROVIDENCE RI THE OUTLET COMPANY 360 833 WRAH PROVIDENCE RI STANLEY N READ 360 833 WMAF DARTMOUTH MA ROUND HILLS RADIO CORP. 360 833 WEAN PROVIDENCE RI SHEPARD CO. 360 833 WNAC BOSTON MA SHEPARD STORES 360 833 WDAU NEW BEDFORD MA SLOCUM & KILBURN 360 833 WCAX BURLINGTON VT UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT 360 833 WLAK BELLOWS FALLS VT VERMONT FARMS MACH. CO. 360 833 WDAS WORCESTER MA SAMUEL A WAITE Rob -- Ya tam, gde rebjata tolkovye; Ya tam, gde plakaty "vpered!", Gde pesni rabochie novye Strana trudovaja poet. From 011010001@interpring.com Fri Dec 11 14:36:24 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 14:36:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: New England radio dial, 1923 In-Reply-To: <000f4242.0a058f714d6bed22@gmail.com> References: <000f4242.0a058f714d6bed22@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Dec 2015, raccoonradio@gmail.com wrote: > > A couple yrs back a group wanted to do shared time by putting an 88.3 in > Newburyport area,which would share with Masconomet's WBMT Boxford.That > station is only on 3-9pm daily I believe,and it has had some controversy > with the FCC. Nothing has been decided in either situation,and I don't know > if the Newburyport group just gave up or not. WUMB has a shared time arrangement with Maynard High School for 91.7 in Stow, MA. That deal was made prior to my association with WUMB, and I know very little about how or why it was done, but I seem to recall the process was drawn out and complicated. Would it not be easier to make a deal directly with WBMT for airtime on their station? Rob -- Ya tam, gde rebjata tolkovye; Ya tam, gde plakaty "vpered!", Gde pesni rabochie novye Strana trudovaja poet. From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Dec 11 16:26:50 2015 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 16:26:50 -0500 Subject: New England radio dial, 1923 In-Reply-To: <007801d13433$6fab9fb0$4f02df10$@skywaves.net> References: <007801d13433$6fab9fb0$4f02df10$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: <566B3F9A.1000201@donnahalper.com> On 12/11/2015 11:46 AM, Dave Doherty wrote: > There were a lot of shared-time arrangements way back in the early days. > I'll bet that's what was happening in Providence. > And that happened in other cities too. But let's remember that in early 1923, few stations were on the air for more than a couple of hours at a time -- in fact, most only kept a 3 or 4 night a week schedule. There were indeed share-time arrangements, and magazines of that era listed what hours a station might be on the air. Bigger stations like WBZ and KDKA were on the air more hours (and more days of the week)-- and even little WGI (formerly 1XE) was on a pretty regular schedule by then, but it too was still on for just a couple of hours a night. So while 833 kilocycles was indeed crowded, not all of those stations were on the air on a regular basis. It wasn't till later in 1923-1924 that regular schedules and daytime broadcasts became the norm, and the Department of Commerce also opened up more places on the AM dial to accommodate the growing number of stations. From bob.bosra@demattia.net Fri Dec 11 18:41:55 2015 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 18:41:55 -0500 Subject: New England radio dial, 1923 In-Reply-To: <566B3F9A.1000201@donnahalper.com> References: <007801d13433$6fab9fb0$4f02df10$@skywaves.net> <566B3F9A.1000201@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: Http://earlyradiohistory.us is a long read but will give you a good perspective of the chaos... From bob.bosra@demattia.net Fri Dec 11 18:44:53 2015 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 18:44:53 -0500 Subject: Building the Broadcast Band In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://earlyradiohistory.us/buildbcb.htm is a better url From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Dec 15 05:01:53 2015 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Andy Curran) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:01:53 +0100 Subject: Fw: new important message Message-ID: <0000a2849646$ad7e5b3b$3c24e756$@donnahalper.com> Hello! New message, please read Andy Curran From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Dec 15 05:01:55 2015 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Andy Curran) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:01:55 +0100 Subject: Fw: new important message Message-ID: <00004e66a478$100eb0d6$8edeb704$@donnahalper.com> Hello! New message, please read Andy Curran From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Dec 15 05:01:55 2015 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Andy Curran) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:01:55 +0100 Subject: Fw: new important message Message-ID: <00004e66a478$100eb0d6$8edeb704$@donnahalper.com> Hello! New message, please read Andy Curran From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Dec 15 10:13:52 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:13:52 -0500 Subject: beware of spammer Message-ID: Someone named Andy Curran is trying to hijack the email address of one of our members--a very well known one--with links to "maxlisshair", "diamondtravel" etc and if you try to block "Andy" from your own email you may block that of the distinguished member (her first name starts with D...) ...beware. From tlmedia@intrstar.net Tue Dec 15 15:48:13 2015 From: tlmedia@intrstar.net (Ted Larsen) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:48:13 -0500 Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F9BCAD0A9BE4AC18CC999B9B8C1DA4E@OwnerPC> I sent out a similar warning early today. I hope all members got it. Just what we don't need, but I can't remember it happening before. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Nelson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 10:13 AM To: Boston Radio Group Subject: beware of spammer Someone named Andy Curran is trying to hijack the email address of one of our members--a very well known one--with links to "maxlisshair", "diamondtravel" etc and if you try to block "Andy" from your own email you may block that of the distinguished member (her first name starts with D...) ...beware. From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Dec 15 17:14:45 2015 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:14:45 -0500 Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Someone named Andy Curran is trying to hijack the email address of one of > our members--a very well known one--with links to "maxlisshair", > "diamondtravel" etc and if you try to block "Andy" from your own email you > may block that of the distinguished member (her first name starts with > D...) ...beware. Its name probably isn't "Andy Curran", either. Unfortunately, there's not a whole lot I can do: Internet email "from" addresses are not authenticated, and that's the only mechanism Mailman (our mailing-list software) has for filtering out randos. As a general rule, if you see an email that claims to be from somebody you know, but doesn't look like somethey they would say, it's probably a forgery. -GAWollman From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Dec 15 17:28:24 2015 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:28:24 -0500 Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <56709408.7040304@donnahalper.com> On 12/15/2015 5:14 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > >> Someone named Andy Curran is trying to hijack the email address of one of >> our members--a very well known one--with links to "maxlisshair", >> "diamondtravel" etc and if you try to block "Andy" from your own email you >> may block that of the distinguished member (her first name starts with >> D...) ...beware. >> This sort of thing is SO annoying. Someone's email address gets hacked and then everyone in their address books starts receiving spam. I doubt it's my account that was hacked. More likely, I'm in the address book of some unlucky person. Bottom line, I never send spam to anyone and I appreciate the skepticism if you see my name attached to posts selling products like cheap sunglasses! From tlmedia@intrstar.net Tue Dec 15 18:45:20 2015 From: tlmedia@intrstar.net (Ted Larsen) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:45:20 -0500 Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: <56709408.7040304@donnahalper.com> References: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <56709408.7040304@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <9944C365737F48719C37ECCA825C3B0D@OwnerPC> What's even worse, if you actually pay for the sunglasses the spammer will have access to your credit card info and you can kiss your credit goodbye AND you'll never get the glasses. Did you ever wonder why those Nigerian Letters are written poor English? It's by design. Ignorant people won't notice it but those who know correct English will dismiss the emails. Ignorant people are their mark. Sad but true. -----Original Message----- From: Donna Halper Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 5:28 PM To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: beware of spammer On 12/15/2015 5:14 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < > said: > > >> Someone named Andy Curran is trying to hijack the email address of one of >> our members--a very well known one--with links to "maxlisshair", >> "diamondtravel" etc and if you try to block "Andy" from your own email >> you >> may block that of the distinguished member (her first name starts with >> D...) ...beware. >> This sort of thing is SO annoying. Someone's email address gets hacked and then everyone in their address books starts receiving spam. I doubt it's my account that was hacked. More likely, I'm in the address book of some unlucky person. Bottom line, I never send spam to anyone and I appreciate the skepticism if you see my name attached to posts selling products like cheap sunglasses! From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Tue Dec 15 19:00:11 2015 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:00:11 -0500 Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: <9944C365737F48719C37ECCA825C3B0D@OwnerPC> References: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <56709408.7040304@donnahalper.com> <9944C365737F48719C37ECCA825C3B0D@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20151215185750.03da95a8@plymouthcolony.net> At 06:45 PM 12/15/2015, Ted Larsen wrote: >Ignorant people are their mark. Sad but true. Very true - their targets are people who don't find it unusual that the director of the FBI or the First Lady are sending them email using Gmail addresses. Dale H. Cook, Radio Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Dec 15 20:19:44 2015 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:19:44 -0500 Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20151215185750.03da95a8@plymouthcolony.net> References: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <56709408.7040304@donnahalper.com> <9944C365737F48719C37ECCA825C3B0D@OwnerPC> <7.0.1.0.2.20151215185750.03da95a8@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: <5670BC30.9070804@donnahalper.com> On 12/15/2015 7:00 PM, Dale H. Cook wrote: > At 06:45 PM 12/15/2015, Ted Larsen wrote: > > >> Ignorant people are their mark. Sad but true. >> > Very true - their targets are people who don't find it unusual that the director of the FBI or the First Lady are sending them email using Gmail addresses. > Or that a member of the royalty in Nigeria wants to give them $100,000. From sids1045@aol.com Tue Dec 15 20:25:54 2015 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sidney Schweiger) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:25:54 -0500 Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: <5670BC30.9070804@donnahalper.com> References: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <56709408.7040304@donnahalper.com> <9944C365737F48719C37ECCA825C3B0D@OwnerPC> <7.0.1.0.2.20151215185750.03da95a8@plymouthcolony.net> <5670BC30.9070804@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: On Dec 15, 2015, at 8:19 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > >> On 12/15/2015 7:00 PM, Dale H. Cook wrote: >> At 06:45 PM 12/15/2015, Ted Larsen wrote: >> >> >>> Ignorant people are their mark. Sad but true. >>> >> Very true - their targets are people who don't find it unusual that the director of the FBI or the First Lady are sending them email using Gmail addresses. >> > Or that a member of the royalty in Nigeria wants to give them $100,000. But...but...but...it's on the Internet! It must be true! From gary@garysicecream.com Tue Dec 15 21:10:56 2015 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 21:10:56 -0500 Subject: Pete Bouchard has left ch 7 Message-ID: <108b01d137a7$00554770$00ffd650$@garysicecream.com> According to newenglandone.com Pete Bouchard, chief meteorologist for chs 7 & 56 did his final forecast last night and has left the stations. The story goes on to say that rumors are he is going to "the new NBC Boston". What's that about? Is Ch 7 losing or giving up the network affiliation? Gary Francis From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Dec 15 22:06:28 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:06:28 -0500 Subject: Pete Bouchard has left ch 7 In-Reply-To: References: <108b01d137a7$00554770$00ffd650$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: A little while ago a Globe article wondered if NBC would pull Ch 7 as an affiliate and maybe ally with NECN.It seems far fetched but that's intriguing. Might it be something like websites affiliated with NBC but localized, like "ESPNBoston"? From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Dec 15 23:32:40 2015 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:32:40 -0500 Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: References: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <56709408.7040304@donnahalper.com> <9944C365737F48719C37ECCA825C3B0D@OwnerPC> <7.0.1.0.2.20151215185750.03da95a8@plymouthcolony.net> <5670BC30.9070804@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <5670E968.7010203@donnahalper.com> On 12/15/2015 8:25 PM, Sidney Schweiger wrote: > > But...but...but...it's on the Internet! It must be true! > Hey, don't you know anything? Abraham Lincoln said to be very careful about quotes on the internet-- they're difficult to verify! From tlmedia@intrstar.net Tue Dec 15 23:31:59 2015 From: tlmedia@intrstar.net (Ted Larsen) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:31:59 -0500 Subject: Pete Bouchard has left ch 7 In-Reply-To: References: <108b01d137a7$00554770$00ffd650$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <456937CDB68A41E0BCB976A0697C2062@OwnerPC> Here?s some interesting additional information that appears to be credible. http://www.newenglandone.com/news/local-news/item/1284-beantown-breakup-nbc-actually-leaving-whdh.html -----Original Message----- From: Bob Nelson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 10:06 PM To: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: Pete Bouchard has left ch 7 A little while ago a Globe article wondered if NBC would pull Ch 7 as an affiliate and maybe ally with NECN.It seems far fetched but that's intriguing. Might it be something like websites affiliated with NBC but localized, like "ESPNBoston"? From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Dec 15 23:59:04 2015 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:59:04 -0500 Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: <5670E968.7010203@donnahalper.com> References: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <56709408.7040304@donnahalper.com> <9944C365737F48719C37ECCA825C3B0D@OwnerPC> <7.0.1.0.2.20151215185750.03da95a8@plymouthcolony.net> <5670BC30.9070804@donnahalper.com> <5670E968.7010203@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <5670EF98.6090307@attorneyross.com> I thought it was George Washington who said that! On 12/15/2015 11:32 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > On 12/15/2015 8:25 PM, Sidney Schweiger wrote: >> >> But...but...but...it's on the Internet! It must be true! > Hey, don't you know anything? Abraham Lincoln said to be very careful > about quotes on the internet-- they're difficult to verify! > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From Kaimbridge@Gmail.com Wed Dec 16 01:16:28 2015 From: Kaimbridge@Gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:16:28 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: beware of spammer Message-ID: <567101BC.4040602@Gmail.com> Sidney Schweiger wrote, > On Dec 15, 2015, at 8:19 PM, Donna Halper wrote: >> Or that a member of the royalty in Nigeria wants to give them $100,000. > > But...but...but...it's on the Internet! It must be true! Not just that, but they give you an ACTUAL LINK(!!!) to the CNN report about Prince Poufta?s fatal plane crash, so you KNOW this isn?t a scam and that you were picked to act as a middleman in transferring his U$5.7 million bank account because you appear to be a sincere and honest person! Now how could something like that be a scam? P=) P=| P=) ~Kaimbridge~ -- -- -- Wiki?Sites Contribution History Pages: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge math.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge wiki.gis.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge rosettacode.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From 011010001@interpring.com Wed Dec 16 06:22:58 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:22:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Garrett Wollman wrote: > As a general rule, if you see an email that claims to be from > somebody you know, but doesn't look like somethey they would say, it's > probably a forgery. You can check the originating IP address in the email header. If it's in Brazil or China, that's a pretty good clue that the message is bogus. Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Wed Dec 16 06:31:04 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:31:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: <5670EF98.6090307@attorneyross.com> References: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <56709408.7040304@donnahalper.com> <9944C365737F48719C37ECCA825C3B0D@OwnerPC> <7.0.1.0.2.20151215185750.03da95a8@plymouthcolony.net> <5670BC30.9070804@donnahalper.com> <5670E968.7010203@donnahalper.com> <5670EF98.6090307@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: No, it's in the the Gospel of Mark, the parable of the prodigal spammer. Rob On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, A Joseph Ross wrote: > I thought it was George Washington who said that! > On 12/15/2015 11:32 PM, Donna Halper wrote: >> On 12/15/2015 8:25 PM, Sidney Schweiger wrote: >>> But...but...but...it's on the Internet! It must be true! >> Hey, don't you know anything? Abraham Lincoln said to be very careful >> about quotes on the internet-- they're difficult to verify! From ewerme@comcast.net Wed Dec 16 08:41:54 2015 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 08:41:54 -0500 Subject: beware of spammer Message-ID: <86vb7ywlwd.fsf@wermenh.com> Dale H. Cook wrote: > At 06:45 PM 12/15/2015, Ted Larsen wrote: >> Ignorant people are their mark. Sad but true. > Very true - their targets are people who don't find it unusual that the director of the FBI or the First Lady are sending them email using Gmail addresses. Don't forget Presidential Science advisor John Holdren and former EPA director Lisa Jackson (alias Richard Windsor). http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/05/08/white-house-science-advisor-john-holdren-sued-over-emails/ http://www.nationalreview.com/planet-gore/333223/who-richard-windsor-chris-horner As for ads for cheap sunglasses, Donna would make them look like a million bucks! -Ric -- ric@WermeNH.com http://WermeNH.com/ From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed Dec 16 09:24:00 2015 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 09:24:00 -0500 Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: <5670BC30.9070804@donnahalper.com> References: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <56709408.7040304@donnahalper.com> <9944C365737F48719C37ECCA825C3B0D@OwnerPC> <7.0.1.0.2.20151215185750.03da95a8@plymouthcolony.net> <5670BC30.9070804@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <008e01d1380d$6be0cd00$43a26700$@cssinc.com> Of course, these same "intelligent" people never thought twice about official State Dept. emails coming from @clintonmail.com and not us.state.gov. -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 8:20 PM To: Dale H. Cook Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: beware of spammer On 12/15/2015 7:00 PM, Dale H. Cook wrote: > At 06:45 PM 12/15/2015, Ted Larsen wrote: > > >> Ignorant people are their mark. Sad but true. >> > Very true - their targets are people who don't find it unusual that the director of the FBI or the First Lady are sending them email using Gmail addresses. > Or that a member of the royalty in Nigeria wants to give them $100,000. From map@mapinternet.com Wed Dec 16 12:41:34 2015 From: map@mapinternet.com (M.Casey) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:41:34 -0500 Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: <56709408.7040304@donnahalper.com> References: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <56709408.7040304@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: From: Donna Halper " Bottom line, I never send spam to anyone and I appreciate the skepticism if you see my name attached to posts selling products like cheap sunglasses!" I never send spam either. but, it takes a close watch of ones email account to prevent it. And even them , it still happens, so skepticism is good in these cases. But, I've received many similar spam email's. The cheap sunglasses one was from someone called "ZZ Top" or............ was it........ "BZ Top"? ----Mark Casey ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4483/11190 - Release Date: 12/16/15 From dave@skywaves.net Wed Dec 16 21:34:41 2015 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 21:34:41 -0500 Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: <5670EF98.6090307@attorneyross.com> References: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <56709408.7040304@donnahalper.com> <9944C365737F48719C37ECCA825C3B0D@OwnerPC> <7.0.1.0.2.20151215185750.03da95a8@plymouthcolony.net> <5670BC30.9070804@donnahalper.com> <5670E968.7010203@donnahalper.com> <5670EF98.6090307@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <000201d13873$7be932d0$73bb9870$@skywaves.net> I have it on good authority that it was Erik the Red! It seems he was the first European to establish an Internet presence here in the Americas, doing an inter-temporal online chat with Al Gore. <> -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of A Joseph Ross Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 11:59 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: beware of spammer I thought it was George Washington who said that! On 12/15/2015 11:32 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > On 12/15/2015 8:25 PM, Sidney Schweiger wrote: >> >> But...but...but...it's on the Internet! It must be true! > Hey, don't you know anything? Abraham Lincoln said to be very careful > about quotes on the internet-- they're difficult to verify! > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From 011010001@interpring.com Thu Dec 17 10:51:38 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:51:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: beware of spammer In-Reply-To: <000201d13873$7be932d0$73bb9870$@skywaves.net> References: <22128.37077.904977.825772@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <56709408.7040304@donnahalper.com> <9944C365737F48719C37ECCA825C3B0D@OwnerPC> <7.0.1.0.2.20151215185750.03da95a8@plymouthcolony.net> <5670BC30.9070804@donnahalper.com> <5670E968.7010203@donnahalper.com> <5670EF98.6090307@attorneyross.com> <000201d13873$7be932d0$73bb9870$@skywaves.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Dec 2015, Dave Doherty wrote: > I have it on good authority that it was Erik the Red! It seems he was the > first European to establish an Internet presence here in the Americas, doing > an inter-temporal online chat with Al Gore. Al Gore was known in ancient times as Al Qahir (Classical Arabic "the conqueror" or "the victorious"), a godlike figure identified with the planet Mars. His consort, Az-Zuhara ("she who shines") was identified with the planet Venus. The round-trip times on those first ICMP pings were literally astronomical; I never learned enough Arabic to find out how Al Gore got around that problem. Rob From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 16 17:24:20 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?cmFjY29vbnJhZGlvQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==?=) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:24:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Changes in Portland Message-ID: <000f4242.6f5f0e0d6562897d@gmail.com> A post on radioinsight says WBAE 1490 Portland ME which has been standards is nowsimulcasting the talk of WZAN 970.The talk willremain there and 970,which comes in on the North Shore,will become ESPN 970 shortly.Alsoa post on radiodiscussions says Bob Bittnerof WJTO and WJIB is paying $135k for the Portland 870 and 1470 combo. From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Thu Dec 17 20:00:39 2015 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 01:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Channel 7 vs. NBC References: <112653823.433991.1450400439288.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <112653823.433991.1450400439288.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } I'm wondering how the dominoes fall when this takes place, assuming the report is accurate.? In case you didn't see:? http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/television/2015/12/nbc_dials_up_heat_ch_7_set_to_lose_network_affiliation_in_2017 There are a lot of moving parts.? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Thu Dec 17 21:54:44 2015 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 02:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? References: <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> ""The FCC is launching a broadcast buyback program to purchase local TV stations willing to go off the air. "" Huh? Is this for real? The FCC wants some TV stations to go off the air? Really? From map@mapinternet.com Fri Dec 18 13:53:48 2015 From: map@mapinternet.com (M.Casey) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:53:48 -0500 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 19, Issue 112 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2812B9E6C5DB4E789572B745AA5808F6@laptop> Another report on the TV spectrum from Computer world. Looks like today is decision day for TV stations. http://www.computerworld.com/article/2994217/mobile-wireless/faq-the-fcc-s-upcoming-broadcast-tv-spectrum-auction.html --Mark Casey -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:00 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 19, Issue 112 Send Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list submissions to boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.BostonRadio.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-radio-interest or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org You can reach the person managing the list at boston-radio-interest-owner@lists.BostonRadio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Boston-Radio-Interest digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Changes in Portland (raccoonradio@gmail.com) 2. Channel 7 vs. NBC (Sean Smyth) 3. FCC Broadcast buyback program..? (D. A.) _______________________________________________ Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list Boston-Radio-Interest@lists.BostonRadio.org https://lists.BostonRadio.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-radio-interest ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11204 - Release Date: 12/18/15 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11204 - Release Date: 12/18/15 From map@mapinternet.com Fri Dec 18 13:41:26 2015 From: map@mapinternet.com (M.Casey) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:41:26 -0500 Subject: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? In-Reply-To: <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03419D24866B4DECBB3E53CCF5FC2C6E@laptop> Unfortunately, It really looks to be true. Hope not but,...........The end of on-air broadcast TV may be coming into sight. http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/10/25/seeking-spectrum-fcc-tries-to-entice-tv-stations-to-go-dark/ Mark Casey -----Original Message----- From: D. A. Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:54 PM To: Boston Radio Interest Mailing List ; Sean Smyth Subject: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? ""The FCC is launching a broadcast buyback program to purchase local TV stations willing to go off the air. "" Huh? Is this for real? The FCC wants some TV stations to go off the air? Really? ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11204 - Release Date: 12/18/15 From bob.bosra@demattia.net Fri Dec 18 15:07:03 2015 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:07:03 -0500 Subject: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? In-Reply-To: <03419D24866B4DECBB3E53CCF5FC2C6E@laptop> References: <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <03419D24866B4DECBB3E53CCF5FC2C6E@laptop> Message-ID: If anyone is curious, here are the opening bid prices: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-15-1191A2.pdf From tlmedia@intrstar.net Fri Dec 18 18:59:25 2015 From: tlmedia@intrstar.net (Ted Larsen) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:59:25 -0500 Subject: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? In-Reply-To: References: <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <03419D24866B4DECBB3E53CCF5FC2C6E@laptop> Message-ID: <42B9D7EBE2B44B1CBC5972C36F12218A@OwnerPC> I'm confused. Who is going to pay for all this. The government or the cable providers? -----Original Message----- From: Bob DeMattia Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 3:07 PM To: Boston Radio Interest Mailing List Subject: Re: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? If anyone is curious, here are the opening bid prices: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-15-1191A2.pdf From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Dec 18 20:18:08 2015 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 20:18:08 -0500 Subject: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? In-Reply-To: <42B9D7EBE2B44B1CBC5972C36F12218A@OwnerPC> References: <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <03419D24866B4DECBB3E53CCF5FC2C6E@laptop> <42B9D7EBE2B44B1CBC5972C36F12218A@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <22132.45136.723291.828105@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I'm confused. Who is going to pay for all this. The government or > the cable providers? Neither. The wireless companies (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mo) are going to pay for it. The government will use part of the revenue from selling off the spectrum to pay off the broadcasters. Which of course means that you'll end up paying for it, one way or another. (But Congress has already budgeted in fairly optimistic profits for this whole business.) -GAWollman From markwa1ion@aol.com Sat Dec 19 00:01:05 2015 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 00:01:05 -0500 Subject: WMVX 1570 Message-ID: <151b89cd94a-5383-8e0@webprd-m38.mail.aol.com> I read via the National Radio Club about WMVX 1570 changing transmitter sites sometime soon. Apparently this involves moving from the present site in Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction. The signal should drop some here on Cape Cod since it'll be going from about 95% water path to more like about 75%. How the signal will change around other parts of eastern MA will be interesting. I wonder when they move if they will actually power down at night. At least some of the time now it would seem that they don't since deep into the evening they still often outgun the Montreal area co-channel station here. Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA From wilkinsmg@hotmail.com Sat Dec 19 16:06:59 2015 From: wilkinsmg@hotmail.com (Michael Wilkins) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:06:59 +0000 Subject: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? In-Reply-To: <22132.45136.723291.828105@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <03419D24866B4DECBB3E53CCF5FC2C6E@laptop> <42B9D7EBE2B44B1CBC5972C36F12218A@OwnerPC>, <22132.45136.723291.828105@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: What happens with "public" broadcasters - those that receive government funding - the likes of WGBH for example? Could they "auction" off one of their "properties," and if so, where does the money go? (whoa, that was a lot of parentheses!) Mike ________________________________________ From: Boston-Radio-Interest on behalf of Garrett Wollman Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:18 PM To: Ted Larsen Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? < said: > I'm confused. Who is going to pay for all this. The government or > the cable providers? Neither. The wireless companies (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mo) are going to pay for it. The government will use part of the revenue from selling off the spectrum to pay off the broadcasters. Which of course means that you'll end up paying for it, one way or another. (But Congress has already budgeted in fairly optimistic profits for this whole business.) -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Sat Dec 19 17:18:05 2015 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:18:05 -0500 Subject: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? In-Reply-To: References: <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <03419D24866B4DECBB3E53CCF5FC2C6E@laptop> <42B9D7EBE2B44B1CBC5972C36F12218A@OwnerPC> <22132.45136.723291.828105@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <22133.55197.420649.432264@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > What happens with "public" broadcasters - those that receive > government funding - the likes of WGBH for example? Could they > "auction" off one of their "properties," and if so, where does the > money go? (whoa, that was a lot of parentheses!) They are treated the same as any other broadcasters: if they choose to participate, and their spectrum is sold at auction, they will receive money, and will have the option of either turning in their license or moving to another channel (possibly in a multiplexed "share-time" arrangement with another licensee). Public broadcasters in most of the country don't actually receive much in the way of direct government funding, although back during the DTV transition there was a substantial amount appropriated to subsidize the replacement of transmission facilities. In some states, the public broadcasters are directly operated by state universities or other state agencies, but many of those facilities serve rural areas where there is little demand for spectrum from the likes of Verizon and AT&T, so they probably won't get much. Much of the money is expected to go to "spectrum speculators" who bought up major-market stations with no audience and minimal programming costs (often leased-time) in the expectation of being able to sell the spectrum. In markets like Boston, where the speculators own facilities that are not in themselves valuable, that spectrum is likely to be taken anyway, for "repacking", and assigned to some other broadcaster that is remaining on the air. (E.g., WMFP's RF channel 18 is probably not going to be bought by anyone, but they could still get auction proceeds if that channel is reassigned to, say, WYDN in exchange for the more valuable channel 47.) This is actually a two-way auction: on one side, the spectrum will be auctioned off to wireless carriers; on the other side, the television broadcasters will auction their spectrum to the FCC. The FCC will accept the minimum possible bids from broadcast licensees to allow both wireless carriers and the remaining broadcasters sufficient spectrum to meet their needs, and the government will pocket the difference. Regular ("full power") and class-A low-power stations are eligible to participate in the auction. Translators and other low-power stations, being unprotected secondary services, will get kicked off in the repacking as their channels will be reassigned. -GAWollman From tlmedia@intrstar.net Sat Dec 19 20:00:47 2015 From: tlmedia@intrstar.net (Ted Larsen) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 20:00:47 -0500 Subject: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? In-Reply-To: <22133.55197.420649.432264@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <03419D24866B4DECBB3E53CCF5FC2C6E@laptop> <42B9D7EBE2B44B1CBC5972C36F12218A@OwnerPC> <22132.45136.723291.828105@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <22133.55197.420649.432264@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: Thank you for the detailed explanation. Does such a sweeping revamp of the spectrum need Congressional approval? -----Original Message----- From: Garrett Wollman Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 5:18 PM To: Michael Wilkins Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? < said: > What happens with "public" broadcasters - those that receive > government funding - the likes of WGBH for example? Could they > "auction" off one of their "properties," and if so, where does the > money go? (whoa, that was a lot of parentheses!) They are treated the same as any other broadcasters: if they choose to participate, and their spectrum is sold at auction, they will receive money, and will have the option of either turning in their license or moving to another channel (possibly in a multiplexed "share-time" arrangement with another licensee). Public broadcasters in most of the country don't actually receive much in the way of direct government funding, although back during the DTV transition there was a substantial amount appropriated to subsidize the replacement of transmission facilities. In some states, the public broadcasters are directly operated by state universities or other state agencies, but many of those facilities serve rural areas where there is little demand for spectrum from the likes of Verizon and AT&T, so they probably won't get much. Much of the money is expected to go to "spectrum speculators" who bought up major-market stations with no audience and minimal programming costs (often leased-time) in the expectation of being able to sell the spectrum. In markets like Boston, where the speculators own facilities that are not in themselves valuable, that spectrum is likely to be taken anyway, for "repacking", and assigned to some other broadcaster that is remaining on the air. (E.g., WMFP's RF channel 18 is probably not going to be bought by anyone, but they could still get auction proceeds if that channel is reassigned to, say, WYDN in exchange for the more valuable channel 47.) This is actually a two-way auction: on one side, the spectrum will be auctioned off to wireless carriers; on the other side, the television broadcasters will auction their spectrum to the FCC. The FCC will accept the minimum possible bids from broadcast licensees to allow both wireless carriers and the remaining broadcasters sufficient spectrum to meet their needs, and the government will pocket the difference. Regular ("full power") and class-A low-power stations are eligible to participate in the auction. Translators and other low-power stations, being unprotected secondary services, will get kicked off in the repacking as their channels will be reassigned. -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Sat Dec 19 21:04:43 2015 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:04:43 -0500 Subject: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? In-Reply-To: References: <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <03419D24866B4DECBB3E53CCF5FC2C6E@laptop> <42B9D7EBE2B44B1CBC5972C36F12218A@OwnerPC> <22132.45136.723291.828105@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <22133.55197.420649.432264@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <22134.3259.310393.310816@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Thank you for the detailed explanation. > Does such a sweeping revamp of the spectrum need Congressional approval? It was ordered by Congress as a money-raising maneuver. -GAWollman From richard@chonak.com Sat Dec 19 21:06:13 2015 From: richard@chonak.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:06:13 -0500 Subject: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? In-Reply-To: References: <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <03419D24866B4DECBB3E53CCF5FC2C6E@laptop> <42B9D7EBE2B44B1CBC5972C36F12218A@OwnerPC> <22132.45136.723291.828105@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <22133.55197.420649.432264@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <56760D15.6000200@chonak.com> With stations likely to be "repacked" into low-VHF and high-VHF channels (and presumably also some low UHF channels), what effects would these moves have on OTA reception? Would some of the new channels be more favorable than the current ones? Incidentally, some PBS stations have posted videos to explain the spectrum auction on YouTube: Overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM6CGXX_0wI Reverse Auction in Depth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8S1NlUK5Rg Repacking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCAbLQgdMec --RC From TVNETDUDE@aol.com Sun Dec 20 19:51:21 2015 From: TVNETDUDE@aol.com (TVNETDUDE@aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 19:51:21 -0500 Subject: Changes in Portland Message-ID: <6eb4cf.60a1ea8d.43a8a709@aol.com> Bob Bittner, the ultimate antique collector, will end up with a bunch of FM translators for all of these stations. The FCC is allowing AM owners to drop the power so what he is really buying is a bunch of small FM stations. In a message dated 12/18/2015 12:00:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org writes: >>>A post on radioinsight says WBAE 1490 Portland ME which has been standards is nowsimulcasting the talk of WZAN 970.The talk willremain there and 970,which comes in on the North Shore,will become ESPN 970 shortly.Alsoa post on radiodiscussions says Bob Bittnerof WJTO and WJIB is paying $135k for the Portland 870 and 1470 combo.<< From TVNETDUDE@aol.com Sun Dec 20 20:00:31 2015 From: TVNETDUDE@aol.com (TVNETDUDE@aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 20:00:31 -0500 Subject: WMVX 1570 Message-ID: <6ebe70.2bd6ff46.43a8a92f@aol.com> Here is the engineering report. https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS_Attachment/getattachment.jsp?appn=101693 837&qnum=5120©num=1&exhcnum=1 In a message dated 12/19/2015 12:00:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org writes: >>Apparently this involves moving from the present site in Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction.<<< From markwa1ion@aol.com Sun Dec 20 22:59:17 2015 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 22:59:17 -0500 Subject: WMVX 1570 In-Reply-To: <6ebe70.2bd6ff46.43a8a92f@aol.com> References: <6ebe70.2bd6ff46.43a8a92f@aol.com> Message-ID: <151c2b0fb68-6635-3e2d@webprd-m61.mail.aol.com> Looking at the relocated-to-Andover WMVX engineering report Figure 1, it appears that I am just east (= inside) of the 0.5 mV/m line where it crosses the mid-Cape (bisecting Sandy Neck). So that puts me around 0.6 mV/m give or take a bit. This shows an approximate 20 dB loss in comparison to the present signal of 5.96 mV/m (the average of v-soft.com values of 4.39 (zip 02664), 7.56 (zip 02675), and 5.94 (zip 02660) - each of those post offices is about 2.5 miles / 4 km away, one SSW, one WNW, one E). Radio-Locator map for present (Beverly) WMVX ( http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/patg?id=WMVX-AM&s=C&h=D ) shows the mid-Cape well inside the "local" 2.5 mV/m (red) contour so approximately 6 mV/m does sound about right for what 1570 is delivering here during the day. Signal loss out around P-Town with the relocation would be somewhat less. It will be interesting to see how this pans out. The Perseus SDR receiver I use has very accurate dBm-at-50-ohm-input measurement capability. I have stored spectrum captures (allowing complete AM band playback, 1 GB file size = approx. 2 min.) done during midday conditions to evaluate antennas being tested. Besides the 1570 change measured versus the pre-move signal (when using the same antenna), the differences versus other stations similar in frequency, bearing, and distance would give a good metric. For instance, if WMEX 1510 is 18-20 dB weaker than Beverly WMVX here (pretty close to the right number), I would expect that Andover WMVX would come in here pretty much at the same level as WMEX rather than 'blastingly' louder as at present. I would suspect that the post-move night WMVX signal will be buried by the metro-Montreal station over 95% of the time. Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA (GC= 41.6931 N / 70.1912 W) -----Original Message----- From: TVNETDUDE To: boston-radio-interest ; markwa1ion Sent: Sun, Dec 20, 2015 8:00 pm Subject: Re: WMVX 1570 Here is the engineering report. https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS_Attachment/getattachment.jsp?appn=101693837&qnum=5120©num=1&exhcnum=1 In a message dated 12/19/2015 12:00:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org writes: >>Apparently this involves moving from the present site in Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction.<<< From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Dec 21 06:21:58 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 06:21:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? In-Reply-To: References: <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <03419D24866B4DECBB3E53CCF5FC2C6E@laptop> Message-ID: To me, what's interesting about the buyback program is that it appears to establish that broadcast licensees are the legal owners of the spectrum they use, notwithstanding the language to the contrary on their licenses. Otherwise, why wouldn't the FCC just hold a hearing to determine whether the "public interest, convenience, and necessity" is better served by licensing a particular allocation to a TV channel or to a mobile broadband company? Rob From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Dec 21 10:21:04 2015 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 10:21:04 -0500 Subject: FCC Broadcast buyback program..? In-Reply-To: References: <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <320039727.394562.1450407284904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <03419D24866B4DECBB3E53CCF5FC2C6E@laptop> Message-ID: <22136.6368.77306.148799@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Otherwise, why wouldn't the FCC just hold a hearing to determine whether > the "public interest, convenience, and necessity" is better served by > licensing a particular allocation to a TV channel or to a mobile broadband > company? Because the broadcasting industry -- or at least the NAB -- has friends in Congress, and Congress long ago determined that it would be done this way. Also, there is (now) a legal presumption that renewing existing licenses is in the public interest, which is a high bar to cross for any prospective replacement licensee. You'll recall that when MediaFLO was rolled out, they had to buy out all of the channel 55 licensees in the country -- and it was already decided that channel 55 was going to be removed from the television service anyway. -GAWollman From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Dec 21 21:47:24 2015 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 02:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: WMVX 1570..also.. References: <758354957.1635653.1450752444645.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <758354957.1635653.1450752444645.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Also, radio-locator lists the TX location for the CP as being in Beverly....do they really want to move to Andover? -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 12/21/15, D. A. wrote: Subject: Re: WMVX 1570 To: CapeDX@yahoogroups.com, badx@yahoogroups.com, boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org, "Mark Connelly" Date: Monday, December 21, 2015, 9:43 PM >>Apparently this involves moving from the present site in Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction This would involve putting more "sticks" up, right...Since it's directional, how many would they need?? Does the WNNW site have enough land for that?? -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 12/19/15, Mark Connelly via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: Subject: WMVX 1570 To: CapeDX@yahoogroups.com, badx@yahoogroups.com, boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Date: Saturday, December 19, 2015, 12:34 AM I read via the National Radio Club about WMVX 1570 changing transmitter sites sometime soon. Apparently this involves moving from the present site in Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction. The signal should drop some here on Cape Cod since it'll be going from about 95% water path to more like about 75%.? How the signal will change around other parts of eastern MA will be interesting. I wonder when they move if they will actually power down at night.? At least some of the time now it would seem that they don't since deep into the evening they still often outgun the Montreal area co-channel station here. Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA From markwa1ion@aol.com Mon Dec 21 22:23:32 2015 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:23:32 -0500 Subject: WMVX 1570..also.. In-Reply-To: <758354957.1635653.1450752444645.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <758354957.1635653.1450752444645.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <151c7b69cda-79f7-6b1c@webprd-a68.mail.aol.com> Engineering report definitely mentions a city of license change to Methuen so operating from the WNNW 800 stick makes sense. Pattern will be non-directional hence just diplexing with 800 into the one tower. Moving to a site 15-20 miles inland will certainly take a lot of sizzle out of the signal heading south this way but since farther north is where the audience will be, I'm sure that blasting the North and South Shores + Cape doesn't matter. As noted in my other message, signal here will go from about 6 mV/m to 0.6 mV/m, i.e. 20 log(0.6/6) = -20 dB. Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA -----Original Message----- From: D. A. To: CapeDX ; badx ; boston-radio-interest ; Mark Connelly ; D. A. Sent: Mon, Dec 21, 2015 9:50 pm Subject: Re: WMVX 1570..also.. Also, radio-locator lists the TX location for the CP as being in Beverly....do they really want to move to Andover? -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 12/21/15, D. A. wrote: Subject: Re: WMVX 1570 To: CapeDX@yahoogroups.com, badx@yahoogroups.com, boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org, "Mark Connelly" Date: Monday, December 21, 2015, 9:43 PM >>Apparently this involves moving from the present site in Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction This would involve putting more "sticks" up, right...Since it's directional, how many would they need? Does the WNNW site have enough land for that? << From: TVNETDUDE To: boston-radio-interest ; markwa1ion Sent: Sun, Dec 20, 2015 8:00 pm Subject: Re: WMVX 1570 Here is the engineering report. https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS_Attachment/getattachment.jsp?appn=101693837&qnum=5120©num=1&exhcnum=1 >> -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 12/19/15, Mark Connelly via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: Subject: WMVX 1570 To: CapeDX@yahoogroups.com, badx@yahoogroups.com, boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Date: Saturday, December 19, 2015, 12:34 AM I read via the National Radio Club about WMVX 1570 changing transmitter sites sometime soon. Apparently this involves moving from the present site in Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction. The signal should drop some here on Cape Cod since it'll be going from about 95% water path to more like about 75%. How the signal will change around other parts of eastern MA will be interesting. I wonder when they move if they will actually power down at night. At least some of the time now it would seem that they don't since deep into the evening they still often outgun the Montreal area co-channel station here. Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Dec 21 21:43:14 2015 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 02:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: WMVX 1570 References: <28736999.1621095.1450752194260.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <28736999.1621095.1450752194260.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >>Apparently this involves moving from the present site in Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction This would involve putting more "sticks" up, right...Since it's directional, how many would they need? Does the WNNW site have enough land for that? -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 12/19/15, Mark Connelly via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: Subject: WMVX 1570 To: CapeDX@yahoogroups.com, badx@yahoogroups.com, boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Date: Saturday, December 19, 2015, 12:34 AM I read via the National Radio Club about WMVX 1570 changing transmitter sites sometime soon. Apparently this involves moving from the present site in Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction. The signal should drop some here on Cape Cod since it'll be going from about 95% water path to more like about 75%.? How the signal will change around other parts of eastern MA will be interesting. I wonder when they move if they will actually power down at night.? At least some of the time now it would seem that they don't since deep into the evening they still often outgun the Montreal area co-channel station here. Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Dec 21 22:50:21 2015 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 03:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: No subject References: <1429323009.1657229.1450756221880.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1429323009.1657229.1450756221880.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Then the CP info on radio-locator is all wrong... :-( -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 12/21/15, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: Subject: Re: To: "D. A." Cc: "CapeDX" , "badx@yahoogroups.com" , "B-R-I" <>, "Mark Connelly" Date: Monday, December 21, 2015, 10:44 PM WNVX is going to diplex itself into/onto the WNNW tower and it's APP for the move to the WNNW site calls for 50kw non directional Paul On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 9:42 PM, D. A. via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From:?"D. A." To:?, , , Mark Connelly Cc:? Date:?Tue, 22 Dec 2015 02:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject:?Re: WMVX 1570 >>Apparently this involves moving from the present site in Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction This would involve putting more "sticks" up, right...Since it's directional, how many would they need? Does the WNNW site have enough land for that? -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 12/19/15, Mark Connelly via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: ?Subject: WMVX 1570 ?To: CapeDX@yahoogroups.com, badx@yahoogroups.com, boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org ?Date: Saturday, December 19, 2015, 12:34 AM ?I read via the National Radio Club about WMVX 1570 changing ?transmitter sites sometime soon. ?Apparently this involves moving from the present site in ?Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in ?Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction. ?The signal should drop some here on Cape Cod since it'll be ?going from about 95% water path to more like about ?75%.? How the signal will change around other parts of ?eastern MA will be interesting. ?I wonder when they move if they will actually power down at ?night.? At least some of the time now it would seem ?that they don't since deep into the evening they still often ?outgun the Montreal area co-channel station here. ?Mark Connelly, WA1ION ?South Yarmouth, MA From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Mon Dec 21 22:54:12 2015 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 21:54:12 -0600 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <1429323009.1657229.1450756221880.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1429323009.1657229.1450756221880.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1429323009.1657229.1450756221880.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The CP on radio locator is the increase from 30kw to 50kw from the site theyre currently at, keeping the COL as Beverely. The move to the WNNW site with the COL of Methuen is just an application and won't show on Radio locator yet On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 9:50 PM, D. A. wrote: > Then the CP info on radio-locator is all wrong... :-( > > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Mon, 12/21/15, Paul B. Walker, Jr. > wrote: > > Subject: Re: > To: "D. A." > Cc: "CapeDX" , "badx@yahoogroups.com" < > badx@yahoogroups.com>, "B-R-I" <>, "Mark Connelly" > Date: Monday, December 21, 2015, 10:44 PM > > WNVX is > going to diplex itself into/onto the WNNW tower and it's > APP for the move to the WNNW site calls for 50kw non > directional > Paul > On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at > 9:42 PM, D. A. via Boston-Radio-Interest < > boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org> > wrote: > > > ---------- > Forwarded message ---------- > From: "D. > A." > To: , > , > , > Mark Connelly > Cc: > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 > 02:43:14 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: WMVX > 1570 > > > >>Apparently this involves moving from the present > site in Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick > in Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction > > > > This would involve putting more "sticks" up, > right...Since it's directional, how many would they > need? > > > > Does the WNNW site have enough land for that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Sat, 12/19/15, Mark Connelly via Boston-Radio-Interest > > wrote: > > > > Subject: WMVX 1570 > > To: CapeDX@yahoogroups.com, > badx@yahoogroups.com, > boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > > Date: Saturday, December 19, 2015, 12:34 AM > > > > > > I read via the National Radio Club about WMVX 1570 > changing > > transmitter sites sometime soon. > > > > > > Apparently this involves moving from the present site > in > > Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in > > Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction. > > > > > > The signal should drop some here on Cape Cod since > it'll be > > going from about 95% water path to more like about > > 75%. How the signal will change around other parts of > > eastern MA will be interesting. > > > > > > I wonder when they move if they will actually power down > at > > night. At least some of the time now it would seem > > that they don't since deep into the evening they still > often > > outgun the Montreal area co-channel station here. > > > > > > Mark Connelly, WA1ION > > South Yarmouth, MA > > > > > > > > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Mon Dec 21 22:44:13 2015 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 21:44:13 -0600 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: <28736999.1621095.1450752194260.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: WNVX is going to diplex itself into/onto the WNNW tower and it's APP for the move to the WNNW site calls for 50kw non directional Paul On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 9:42 PM, D. A. via Boston-Radio-Interest < boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "D. A." > To: , , < > boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>, Mark Connelly > Cc: > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 02:43:14 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: WMVX 1570 > > >>Apparently this involves moving from the present site in Beverly, MA > (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in Andover just NE of the I-93 / > I-495 junction > > This would involve putting more "sticks" up, right...Since it's > directional, how many would they need? > > Does the WNNW site have enough land for that? > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Sat, 12/19/15, Mark Connelly via Boston-Radio-Interest < > boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org> wrote: > > Subject: WMVX 1570 > To: CapeDX@yahoogroups.com, badx@yahoogroups.com, > boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Date: Saturday, December 19, 2015, 12:34 AM > > > I read via the National Radio Club about WMVX 1570 changing > transmitter sites sometime soon. > > > Apparently this involves moving from the present site in > Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in > Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction. > > > The signal should drop some here on Cape Cod since it'll be > going from about 95% water path to more like about > 75%. How the signal will change around other parts of > eastern MA will be interesting. > > > I wonder when they move if they will actually power down at > night. At least some of the time now it would seem > that they don't since deep into the evening they still often > outgun the Montreal area co-channel station here. > > > Mark Connelly, WA1ION > South Yarmouth, MA > > > > From Jibguy@aol.com Mon Dec 21 23:54:06 2015 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 23:54:06 -0500 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <267d04.70e5b01.43aa316e@aol.com> But application says 460 watts at night. That may not reach Methuen at night with Montreal's 1570 around. 460 watts night suggests either an additional tower, OR the power increase from present Beverly site 85 watts works non-directionally at Andover because it's not near water? ----jibguy In a message dated 12/21/2015 11:49:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com writes: WNVX is going to diplex itself into/onto the WNNW tower and it's APP for the move to the WNNW site calls for 50kw non directional Paul On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 9:42 PM, D. A. via Boston-Radio-Interest < boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "D. A." > To: , , < > boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>, Mark Connelly > Cc: > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 02:43:14 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: WMVX 1570 > > >>Apparently this involves moving from the present site in Beverly, MA > (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in Andover just NE of the I-93 / > I-495 junction > > This would involve putting more "sticks" up, right...Since it's > directional, how many would they need? > > Does the WNNW site have enough land for that? > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Sat, 12/19/15, Mark Connelly via Boston-Radio-Interest < > boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org> wrote: > > Subject: WMVX 1570 > To: CapeDX@yahoogroups.com, badx@yahoogroups.com, > boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Date: Saturday, December 19, 2015, 12:34 AM > > > I read via the National Radio Club about WMVX 1570 changing > transmitter sites sometime soon. > > > Apparently this involves moving from the present site in > Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in > Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction. > > > The signal should drop some here on Cape Cod since it'll be > going from about 95% water path to more like about > 75%. How the signal will change around other parts of > eastern MA will be interesting. > > > I wonder when they move if they will actually power down at > night. At least some of the time now it would seem > that they don't since deep into the evening they still often > outgun the Montreal area co-channel station here. > > > Mark Connelly, WA1ION > South Yarmouth, MA > > > > From 011010001@interpring.com Tue Dec 22 12:27:15 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:27:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've read the engineering attachment for the WNNW move. It's a non-directional facility, day and night, 50 KW day and 460 W night. Their goal is probably to get better coverage of Framingham and Marlborough, where much of the Brazilian community lives. Rob On Tue, 22 Dec 2015, Bob Bittner via Boston-Radio-Interest wrote: [NON-Text Body part not included] From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Dec 22 12:05:36 2015 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:05:36 -0500 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: <1429323009.1657229.1450756221880.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1429323009.1657229.1450756221880.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Right, it only appears to be directional because of the massive difference in conductivity between land and salt water. It's non directional, and blasts in like a local on Cape Cod. Jeff Lehmann > On Dec 21, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > > The CP on radio locator is the increase from 30kw to 50kw from the site > theyre currently at, keeping the COL as Beverely. The move to the WNNW site > with the COL of Methuen is just an application and won't show on Radio > locator yet > >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 9:50 PM, D. A. wrote: >> >> Then the CP info on radio-locator is all wrong... :-( >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> On Mon, 12/21/15, Paul B. Walker, Jr. >> wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: >> To: "D. A." >> Cc: "CapeDX" , "badx@yahoogroups.com" < >> badx@yahoogroups.com>, "B-R-I" <>, "Mark Connelly" >> Date: Monday, December 21, 2015, 10:44 PM >> >> WNVX is >> going to diplex itself into/onto the WNNW tower and it's >> APP for the move to the WNNW site calls for 50kw non >> directional >> Paul >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at >> 9:42 PM, D. A. via Boston-Radio-Interest < >> boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org> >> wrote: >> >> >> ---------- >> Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "D. >> A." >> To: , >> , >> , >> Mark Connelly >> Cc: >> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 >> 02:43:14 +0000 (UTC) >> Subject: Re: WMVX >> 1570 >> >> >>>> Apparently this involves moving from the present >> site in Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick >> in Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction >> >> >> >> This would involve putting more "sticks" up, >> right...Since it's directional, how many would they >> need? >> >> >> >> Does the WNNW site have enough land for that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> >> On Sat, 12/19/15, Mark Connelly via Boston-Radio-Interest >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Subject: WMVX 1570 >> >> To: CapeDX@yahoogroups.com, >> badx@yahoogroups.com, >> boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >> >> Date: Saturday, December 19, 2015, 12:34 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> I read via the National Radio Club about WMVX 1570 >> changing >> >> transmitter sites sometime soon. >> >> >> >> >> >> Apparently this involves moving from the present site >> in >> >> Beverly, MA (Endicott College) to the WNNW 800 stick in >> >> Andover just NE of the I-93 / I-495 junction. >> >> >> >> >> >> The signal should drop some here on Cape Cod since >> it'll be >> >> going from about 95% water path to more like about >> >> 75%. How the signal will change around other parts of >> >> eastern MA will be interesting. >> >> >> >> >> >> I wonder when they move if they will actually power down >> at >> >> night. At least some of the time now it would seem >> >> that they don't since deep into the evening they still >> often >> >> outgun the Montreal area co-channel station here. >> >> >> >> >> >> Mark Connelly, WA1ION >> >> South Yarmouth, MA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From scott@fybush.com Tue Dec 22 12:32:04 2015 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:32:04 -0500 Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56798914.8090803@fybush.com> On 12/22/2015 12:27 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > > I've read the engineering attachment for the WNNW move. It's a > non-directional facility, day and night, 50 KW day and 460 W night. > > Their goal is probably to get better coverage of Framingham and > Marlborough, where much of the Brazilian community lives. > It's not going to be much of a signal in either of those areas. They're barely within the 0.5 day contour. What it's really about is providing an AM facility on which Costa-Eagle can hang one of the two FM translators it's buying from Brian Dodge. (For which Dodge will walk away $150k richer.) From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Tue Dec 22 13:05:56 2015 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:05:56 -0600 Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: <56798914.8090803@fybush.com> References: <56798914.8090803@fybush.com> Message-ID: Brian Dodge again? This guy wil have money and he's dangerous enough without it! On Tuesday, December 22, 2015, Scott Fybush wrote: > On 12/22/2015 12:27 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > >> >> I've read the engineering attachment for the WNNW move. It's a >> non-directional facility, day and night, 50 KW day and 460 W night. >> >> Their goal is probably to get better coverage of Framingham and >> Marlborough, where much of the Brazilian community lives. >> >> > It's not going to be much of a signal in either of those areas. They're > barely within the 0.5 day contour. > > What it's really about is providing an AM facility on which Costa-Eagle > can hang one of the two FM translators it's buying from Brian Dodge. (For > which Dodge will walk away $150k richer.) > > > > From 011010001@interpring.com Tue Dec 22 14:23:29 2015 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:23:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: <56798914.8090803@fybush.com> References: <56798914.8090803@fybush.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Dec 2015, Scott Fybush wrote: > What it's really about is providing an AM facility on which Costa-Eagle can > hang one of the two FM translators it's buying from Brian Dodge. (For which > Dodge will walk away $150k richer.) I'm surprised the FCC will approve any deal involving Brian Dodge. They have a habit of sitting on his applications indefinitely. Rob From scott@fybush.com Tue Dec 22 14:47:21 2015 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:47:21 -0500 Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: References: <56798914.8090803@fybush.com> Message-ID: <5679A8C9.5060908@fybush.com> On 12/22/2015 2:23 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > I'm surprised the FCC will approve any deal involving Brian Dodge. They > have a habit of sitting on his applications indefinitely. So far he's filed for three translator sales at $75,000 each, for a total of $225,000. None has been approved yet. It will be interesting to see how long they sit at "accepted for filing" and whether anyone comes forward to object to the sales. s From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Dec 22 15:53:10 2015 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:53:10 -0500 Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: <5679A8C9.5060908@fybush.com> References: <56798914.8090803@fybush.com> <5679A8C9.5060908@fybush.com> Message-ID: <22137.47158.672438.871244@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > So far he's filed for three translator sales at $75,000 each, for a > total of $225,000. None has been approved yet. It will be interesting to > see how long they sit at "accepted for filing" and whether anyone comes > forward to object to the sales. >From the Commission's point of view, it may be better to cut their losses and get those facilities into the hands of more reliable licensees rather than trying to make a stand on principle a la RKO General 30 years ago.[1] -GAWollman [1] RKO: Please sir, may I transfer this channel 7 license to Bob? He promises to be good.... FCC: You haven't got a license to transfer. From elipolo881@gmail.com Wed Dec 23 14:24:53 2015 From: elipolo881@gmail.com (Eli Polonsky) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 14:24:53 -0500 Subject: WMVX Message-ID: I would guess that they're trying to get better coverage to Lawrence, Lowell and the inland Merrimack Valley, where there is also significant Brazilian and other ethnic population. The Beverly signal ?i s ?strong mainly ?along the coast, and quickly ?weakens? ? ? inland ?.? The Brazilian community in the Framingham and Marlborough area is already served by Alex Langer's 650 WSRO, unless they ?are planning to compete with them.? EP ? > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:27:15 -0500 (EST) > From: Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> > To: Jibguy@aol.com > Cc: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com, donald_astelle@yahoo.com, > boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org, badx@yahoogroups.com, > CapeDX@yahoogroups.com, markwa1ion@aol.com > Subject: Re: your mai > ?l? > > > I've read the engineering attachment for the WNNW move. It's a > non-directional facility, day and night, 50 KW day and 460 W night. > > Their goal is probably to get better coverage of Framingham and > Marlborough, where much of the Brazilian community lives. > > > Rob > From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Dec 24 19:09:18 2015 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 19:09:18 -0500 Subject: Capitol Steps WGBH 89.7-3 Message-ID: <0C9D1913-AB4B-4BC8-9BAA-1AAC5BCD9CF6@mac.com> I was going to listen to Oedipus on WGBH but decided to check out what they are doing on their subchannels, and found they are broadcasting The Capitol Steps New Years Special on 89.7-3. For those unfamiliar with The Capitol Steps, they are a musical group composed of house and senate staffers who do political satire. This is as of 7 PM 12/24/15. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Dec 28 21:28:44 2015 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:28:44 -0500 Subject: Howie's producer gets own show Message-ID: WMEX 1510 will counter program vs WRKO's noon host Jeff Kuhner with their own local host,Nancy "Sandy" Shack starting Jan. 4, weekdays from noon to 3pm. I don't know if Howie Carr's people are behind this--Shack produced his show and goes back to the days of Jerry Williams on WRKO. Howie brought aboard Steve Robinson from Maine when he started to self-syndicate and maybe Shack decided to strike out on her own.