From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 12:13:17 2014
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 09:13:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: D. A.
In-Reply-To: <88627B73A77D440CBC27C2040ABB3379@OwnerPC>
References: <201402261254.s1QCshE0032678@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
 <88627B73A77D440CBC27C2040ABB3379@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <1393866797.50172.YahooMailNeo@web126201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Sorry...it appears I got hacked....PW changed, etc.








On Friday, February 28, 2014 12:13 PM, "tlmedia@triad.rr.com" <tlmedia@triad.rr.com> wrote:
 
Good grief. Seems to be malicious spam blocked by Firefox. Open at your own 
risk!

http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=http://63488.ir/iezba/news.php


-----Original Message----- 
From: D. A.
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:04 PM
To: wollman ; boston radio interest ; dlh ; bri ; MauOB ; rogerkirk ; boston 
radio interest request
Subject: D. A.

http://63488.ir/iezba/news.php
D. A.

From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 12:13:17 2014
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 09:13:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: D. A.
In-Reply-To: <88627B73A77D440CBC27C2040ABB3379@OwnerPC>
References: <201402261254.s1QCshE0032678@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
 <88627B73A77D440CBC27C2040ABB3379@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <1393866797.50172.YahooMailNeo@web126201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Sorry...it appears I got hacked....PW changed, etc.








On Friday, February 28, 2014 12:13 PM, "tlmedia@triad.rr.com" <tlmedia@triad.rr.com> wrote:
 
Good grief. Seems to be malicious spam blocked by Firefox. Open at your own 
risk!

http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=http://63488.ir/iezba/news.php


-----Original Message----- 
From: D. A.
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:04 PM
To: wollman ; boston radio interest ; dlh ; bri ; MauOB ; rogerkirk ; boston 
radio interest request
Subject: D. A.

http://63488.ir/iezba/news.php
D. A.

From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 16:00:39 2014
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 13:00:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: WRKO now simulcast on 93.7 HD2
In-Reply-To: <21263.61629.654535.957589@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <CAJht-8O3e+7ZFdkBqh_u=P4cgU2S6XuCCtR-98ZLUE75hFOhkQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <21263.61629.654535.957589@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <1393880439.97076.YahooMailNeo@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Wasn't 93.7 HD-2 programming "Funkytown"?? The old Star 93.7 format?





On Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:13 PM, Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org> wrote:
 
<<On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 10:29:04 -0500, Bob Nelson <raccoonradio@gmail.com> said:

> (Testing...is there something wrong with dissemination of the list? haven't
> seen anything for awhile)

There was, yes.? Thankfully I was able to rescue your message once I
figured out my configuration error.


> WRKO 680 is now simulcasting on the HD2 of WEEI-FM 93.7 (stick in Peabody).
> HD radio not exactly selling like hotcakes but who knows, maybe they'll get
> some people to try it especially what with machinery and signal
> pattern-change issues.

HD radio may not be selling well, but more and more cars are starting
to come with it, and since radio these days is primarily an
out-of-home medium, such simulcasts may well be worth it.? Does
Neilsen Audio make a breakdown available?? (Normally in a 100%
simulcast situation, they combine reported listening for all signals
into a single rating, but I could imagine it might be worth iBiquity's
while to pay them for a breakdown.)

-GAWollman

From wilkinsmg@hotmail.com  Tue Mar  4 20:16:07 2014
From: wilkinsmg@hotmail.com (Michael)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 20:16:07 -0500
Subject: fines for use of EAS tones in broadcast advert
Message-ID: <BAY168-W91451807189FD48AC9A92DA8890@phx.gbl>


















Thought
some of you might find this interesting:

 

"ESPN,
NBCUniversal and Viacom have been fined for airing Olympus Has Fallen trailers which contained tones
from the Emergency Alert System."



full story here:

 

http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2014/march/espn-nbcuniversal-and-viacom-fined-for-airing-olympus-has-fallen-trailers.html



Mike


 		 	   		  

From wollman@bimajority.org  Wed Mar  5 00:25:04 2014
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 00:25:04 -0500
Subject: How might it have turned out?
Message-ID: <21270.46384.295752.534728@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

The FCC revised the initial table of TV allocations several times in
the early years, including twice in late 1945 after the end of World
War II.  Here's what /Broadcasting/ reported were the assignments for
our area in late November, 1945:

Albany-Schenectady-Troy .... 2 4 7 9 11
Allentown-Easton-Bethlehem . 8 (a "community" station)
Atlantic City .............. 8 ("community")
Binghamton ................. 12
Boston ..................... 2 4 7 9 13
Bridgeport ................. 1 ("community")
Buffalo-Niagara ............ 4 7 9 13
Fall River-New Bedford ..... 1 ("community")
Hartford ................... 8 10
Lowell-Lawrence-Haverhill .. 6
Manchester (N.H.) .......... 1 ("community")
New Haven .................. 6 ("community")
New York City .............. 2 4 7 9 11 13
Philadelphia ............... 3 6 10 12
Portland ................... 3 8
Providence ................. 11
Rochester .................. 2 6 11
Scranton-Wilkes-Barre ...... 11 plus 1 ("community")
Springfield-Holyoke ........ 3 plus 1 ("community")
Syracuse ................... 5 8 10
Utica-Rome ................. 3 13
Waterbury (Ct.) ............ 12
Worcester .................. 5

Aside from Portland, there were no allocations for anywhere in
Northern New England.

It would be a considerably different TV dial, that's for sure.  (Of
course, as we know now, even before most of these stations were built,
it was obvious that it didn't work in reality.  The "community"
stations were dropped early on, along with channel 1.)

-GAWollman

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Wed Mar  5 08:50:45 2014
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (daniel strassberg)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 08:50:45 -0500
Subject: WZBR 1410 Dedham, WKOX 1430 Everett
Message-ID: <A96F8324053E4038840A3E40D239815C@PC281321418224>

Can anyone explain why WZBR's license to cover was rescinded shortly after it was granted? The announcement of the rescinded grant was in the FCC actions roughly a week ago. Also, although I can't offer any proof, WKOX 1430 appears to me to be coming in much stronger at night at my location than it ever has since the station (then WXKS) added night service with 1 kW DA-N. I think the night service was added about 20 years ago.

-----
Dan Strassberg
e-fax 707-215-6367


From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net  Wed Mar  5 10:26:43 2014
From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 10:26:43 -0500
Subject: WZBR 1410 Dedham, WKOX 1430 Everett
In-Reply-To: <A96F8324053E4038840A3E40D239815C@PC281321418224>
References: <A96F8324053E4038840A3E40D239815C@PC281321418224>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20140305101831.03e10758@plymouthcolony.net>

At 08:50 AM 3/5/2014, Dan Strassberg wrote:

>Can anyone explain why WZBR's license to cover was rescinded shortly after it was granted?

It is not clear from the application list. It may have something to do with the fact that the silent STA request of 23-Oct-2013 specified that a 302 would be filed within 60 days. If that 302 was faulty or was not filed in time that might be the cause. The app list does not show a corresponding 302. The app list and correspondence folder do not show anything that would clarify matters.

Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html 


From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Wed Mar  5 11:15:22 2014
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 11:15:22 -0500
Subject: WMWM's Doug Mascott passes away
Message-ID: <CAJht-8Mv6yW99PiGcoLSSMrCnsjzGehqgSDDy5g_TYu_T5_fWw@mail.gmail.com>

Word comes via his friend Rev John Tamilio that WMWM DJ Doug Mascott (on
since 1999; also had been at WNSH) has passed away, a couple weeks before
he would have turned 50. Mascott was host of Trax of the Town,a Sunday
morning local band showcase, and he helped local musicians and charities. I
have known him since 99 and am heartbroken. He was a real character, full
of joie de vivre and he loved helping others.

Details on services to follow. Doug had various health issues and a couple
weeks ago cracked a rib; he later fell unconcious and it was found he had a
lung infection, blood poisoning, and his kidneys had shut down. After being
stable for awhile
things took a turn for the worse. I will miss you Doug and your spirit
lives on in all who knew you. 1964-2014.

From 011010001@interpring.com  Wed Mar  5 12:52:53 2014
From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 12:52:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: WZBR 1410 Dedham, WKOX 1430 Everett
In-Reply-To: <A96F8324053E4038840A3E40D239815C@PC281321418224>
References: <A96F8324053E4038840A3E40D239815C@PC281321418224>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1403051252060.27948@python>



On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, daniel strassberg wrote:

> Can anyone explain why WZBR's license to cover was rescinded shortly 
> after it was granted? The announcement of the rescinded grant was in the 
> FCC actions roughly a week ago.

Huh? The FCC database lists WZBR as licensed.


Rob

From kvahey@gmail.com  Wed Mar  5 16:22:09 2014
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 16:22:09 -0500
Subject: How might it have turned out?
In-Reply-To: <21270.46384.295752.534728@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <21270.46384.295752.534728@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <CABnTNsPdQ1fce5bCs_ZENdAuT8AMCjp4BwoGSiXzjbVWtNew7w@mail.gmail.com>

of note 5 moving from Worcester to Boston opened up 5 for NYC


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:25 AM, Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org>wrote:

> The FCC revised the initial table of TV allocations several times in
> the early years, including twice in late 1945 after the end of World
> War II.  Here's what /Broadcasting/ reported were the assignments for
> our area in late November, 1945:
>
> Albany-Schenectady-Troy .... 2 4 7 9 11
> Allentown-Easton-Bethlehem . 8 (a "community" station)
> Atlantic City .............. 8 ("community")
> Binghamton ................. 12
> Boston ..................... 2 4 7 9 13
> Bridgeport ................. 1 ("community")
> Buffalo-Niagara ............ 4 7 9 13
> Fall River-New Bedford ..... 1 ("community")
> Hartford ................... 8 10
> Lowell-Lawrence-Haverhill .. 6
> Manchester (N.H.) .......... 1 ("community")
> New Haven .................. 6 ("community")
> New York City .............. 2 4 7 9 11 13
> Philadelphia ............... 3 6 10 12
> Portland ................... 3 8
> Providence ................. 11
> Rochester .................. 2 6 11
> Scranton-Wilkes-Barre ...... 11 plus 1 ("community")
> Springfield-Holyoke ........ 3 plus 1 ("community")
> Syracuse ................... 5 8 10
> Utica-Rome ................. 3 13
> Waterbury (Ct.) ............ 12
> Worcester .................. 5
>
> Aside from Portland, there were no allocations for anywhere in
> Northern New England.
>
> It would be a considerably different TV dial, that's for sure.  (Of
> course, as we know now, even before most of these stations were built,
> it was obvious that it didn't work in reality.  The "community"
> stations were dropped early on, along with channel 1.)
>
> -GAWollman
>

From scott@fybush.com  Wed Mar  5 17:23:12 2014
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 17:23:12 -0500
Subject: How might it have turned out?
In-Reply-To: <CABnTNsPdQ1fce5bCs_ZENdAuT8AMCjp4BwoGSiXzjbVWtNew7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <21270.46384.295752.534728@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
 <CABnTNsPdQ1fce5bCs_ZENdAuT8AMCjp4BwoGSiXzjbVWtNew7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5317A3D0.2000103@fybush.com>

On 3/5/2014 4:22 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
> of note 5 moving from Worcester to Boston opened up 5 for NYC

I'm not so sure about that. 5 was still on the books as a Worcester 
allocation for several years after WABD was on 5 in NYC.

I think the next TV allocation table came out in 1947, and it nearly 
completely changed the 1945 one. Good thing almost nobody came on the 
air in the interim.


From dlh@donnahalper.com  Wed Mar  5 18:02:19 2014
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 18:02:19 -0500
Subject: Shameless Plug for my New Book
In-Reply-To: <CAJht-8Mv6yW99PiGcoLSSMrCnsjzGehqgSDDy5g_TYu_T5_fWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJht-8Mv6yW99PiGcoLSSMrCnsjzGehqgSDDy5g_TYu_T5_fWw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5317ACFB.4030006@donnahalper.com>

I am pleased to announce that the 2nd edition, revised and expanded, of 
"Invisible Stars:  A Social History of Women in American Broadcasting" 
is now available.  I worked hard on it, and it contains lots of new 
information.  I hope you will find it a useful addition to your personal 
library, or to your local public library.  It goes without saying that 
writing this book was a labor of love for me, and I am pleased that 
there is now a second edition.

From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Wed Mar  5 20:27:04 2014
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 20:27:04 -0500
Subject: Norm Durkee has passed on (WESC)
Message-ID: <CAJht-8MdgoC+cuk5rbFbMYosfRjhPXnXsePqDuOV9Tkemka2Mg@mail.gmail.com>

Longtime WESX personality Norm Durkee died on Feb 28 according to the Salem
News.Among other things he was marooned at the station during the Blizzard
of 78 and helped in coverage

From ssmyth@psualum.com  Wed Mar  5 20:33:51 2014
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 17:33:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Norm Durkee has passed on (WESC)
In-Reply-To: <CAJht-8MdgoC+cuk5rbFbMYosfRjhPXnXsePqDuOV9Tkemka2Mg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJht-8MdgoC+cuk5rbFbMYosfRjhPXnXsePqDuOV9Tkemka2Mg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1394069631.59900.YahooMailNeo@web160203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Is Al Needham still around? I remember a number of conversations with him many years ago on the Saturday football scoreboard show. Always was a gentleman toward me.





On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 8:28 PM, Bob Nelson <raccoonradio@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Longtime WESX personality Norm Durkee died on Feb 28 according to the Salem
News.Among other things he was marooned at the station during the Blizzard
of 78 and helped in coverage

From wollman@bimajority.org  Wed Mar  5 21:35:40 2014
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 21:35:40 -0500
Subject: How might it have turned out?
In-Reply-To: <CABnTNsPdQ1fce5bCs_ZENdAuT8AMCjp4BwoGSiXzjbVWtNew7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <21270.46384.295752.534728@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
 <CABnTNsPdQ1fce5bCs_ZENdAuT8AMCjp4BwoGSiXzjbVWtNew7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <21271.57084.754873.122300@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Wed, 5 Mar 2014 16:22:09 -0500, Kevin Vahey <kvahey@gmail.com> said:

> of note 5 moving from Worcester to Boston opened up 5 for NYC

Unlikely.  NYC to Albany is a shorter distance and that didn't prevent
them from duplicating all but channel 13 at Albany.

They just didn't understand how VHF propagation worked well enough to
actually perform the computation, and the lobby groups (particularly
the Television Broadcasters Association) were more concerned with
cramming as many stations into the big markets as possible.  (UHF was
still experimental in 1945.)  But television was so clearly the Next
Big Thing that /Broadcasting and Broadcast Advertising/ changed its
title to /Broadcasting * Telecasting/ with the first issue of
December, 1945.

By the way, there was also a bill in Congress at that time -- never
passed, of course -- that would have made the FM band entirely
non-commercial and government-operated.  As it was, the move
"upstairs" nearly killed FM, with the "assistance" of the American
Federation of Musicians.  There was a different bill at the same time
(sponsored by the HUAC chairman) that would have banned "propaganda"
(i.e., commentary offered by persons of liberal views) on the radio.

If you're at all interested in the history of the mass media more
generally, I can recommend little better than the entire 1945 run of
/Broadcasting/.  It's chock full of "oh, so that's how/when/why that
happened".

-GAWollman


From raccoonradio@mail.com  Wed Mar  5 22:54:11 2014
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 22:54:11 -0500
Subject: Norm Durkee has passed on (WESC)
Message-ID: <20140306035411.105230@gmx.com>

I don't know if Al is still around or not (I think he spoke at Salem State when I was a student in early 80s
and he mentioned having an "AM stereo" in his car, etc.)

By the way I'd typed this on a smart phone and the post header says "WESC". Meant to type "WESX". Now
that I am back home and using a comp., here is a link to Durkee's obituary with details of a service.

http://www.salemnews.com/obituaries/x1783702709/Norman-Ralph-Durkee-91
--Bob Nelson

From joe@attorneyross.com  Thu Mar  6 00:31:50 2014
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 00:31:50 -0500
Subject: How might it have turned out?
In-Reply-To: <CABnTNsPdQ1fce5bCs_ZENdAuT8AMCjp4BwoGSiXzjbVWtNew7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <21270.46384.295752.534728@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
 <CABnTNsPdQ1fce5bCs_ZENdAuT8AMCjp4BwoGSiXzjbVWtNew7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53180846.5030706@attorneyross.com>

On 3/5/2014 4:22 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:

> of note 5 moving from Worcester to Boston opened up 5 for NYC

This list is before the freeze and before the changes which followed the 
end of the freeze.  One change was the move of WRGB in Schenectady from 
channel 4 to channel 6.  Another was the move of WJAR in Providence from 
11 to 10.  Another was the move of New Haven's WNHC from 6 to 8.  
Probably others, as well as the addition of UHF allocations.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004
617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com


From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net  Thu Mar  6 07:55:59 2014
From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 07:55:59 -0500
Subject: WZBR 1410 Dedham, WKOX 1430 Everett
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1403051252060.27948@python>
References: <A96F8324053E4038840A3E40D239815C@PC281321418224>
 <alpine.DEB.2.00.1403051252060.27948@python>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20140306074649.03d0d0f0@plymouthcolony.net>

At 12:52 PM 3/5/2014, Rob Landry wrote:

>Huh? The FCC database lists WZBR as licensed.

This likely would be a recission of a 302 for a modification, possibly the modification 301 granted 30-Sep-2013, but unless additional information about the recission appears on the Commission's site it is hard to tell.

Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html 


From ssmyth@psualum.com  Thu Mar  6 10:50:33 2014
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 07:50:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Norm Durkee has passed on (WESC)
In-Reply-To: <1394115088.26710.YahooMailNeo@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAJht-8MdgoC+cuk5rbFbMYosfRjhPXnXsePqDuOV9Tkemka2Mg@mail.gmail.com>
 <1394069631.59900.YahooMailNeo@web160203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
 <1394115088.26710.YahooMailNeo@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1394121033.81347.YahooMailNeo@web160205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Thanks, Jim. He was always patient with a pain-in-the-behind teenager who thought he was the second coming of Sean McDonough.




On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:18 AM, James Armstrong <jfa1965@bellsouth.net> wrote:
 
As far as I know Al is still around. ?Last time I spoke with him he was in Peabody?I think. ?

I worked with both those gents when I was fresh out of college. ?This was in 1987 and stayed around with them in one form or another for years. ?Learned a bunch from both. ? Norm retired just a year or two after I started......then i never saw him much. ? Al is a stellar gent and I will always look to him as a voice of wisdom.

Jim Armstrong?
Telos Systems


________________________________
 From: Sean Smyth <ssmyth@psualum.com>
To: Bob Nelson <raccoonradio@gmail.com>; (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: Norm Durkee has passed on (WESC)
 

Is Al Needham still around? I remember a number of conversations with him many years ago on the Saturday football scoreboard show. Always was a gentleman toward me.





On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 8:28 PM, Bob Nelson <raccoonradio@gmail.com> wrote:

Longtime WESX personality Norm Durkee died on Feb 28 according to the Salem
News.Among other things he was marooned at the station during the Blizzard
of 78 and helped in coverage

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Thu Mar  6 16:47:03 2014
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (daniel strassberg)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 16:47:03 -0500
Subject: WZBR 1410 Dedham, WKOX 1430 Everett
References: <20140306203329.18010@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <3F705EEFCB2C43E29720BDFC41822298@PC281321418224>

I don't think WENE hs made any changes but WNSW (I think those are the Newark calls) is completely different.The old pattern was 5 kW into two towers located south of Newark. Pattern was a modified cardioid aimed East-Southeast, IIRC. Station lost its old site and moved to the WPAT (930) site in Clifton, which is quite far north of the old site. The WPAT sie has four towers which are self-supporting, top-loaded, and electrically very tall (225 degrees at 1430). If it ever completed the build-out, WNSW is now running 10 kW-D, 7 kW-N DA-2. The pattern is quite different from that of the old two-tower array, but I believe WNSW now protects WKOX, which it didn't use to do. If the build-out was not completed, WNSW is probably running low night power either ND or is using a simple temporary pattern.
  -----
  Dan Strassberg
  e-fax 707-215-6367

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Laurence Glavin 
  To: daniel strassberg ; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:33 PM
  Subject: Re: WZBR 1410 Dedham, WKOX 1430 Everett


     >----- Original Message ----- 
    >From: daniel strassberg

    >Sent: 03/05/14 08:50 AM

    >To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org

    >Subject: WZBR 1410 Dedham, WKOX 1430 Everett

      
>Can anyone explain why WZBR's license to cover was rescinded shortly after it was granted? The announcement of the rescinded grant was in the FCC actions roughly a week ago. Also, >although I can't offer any proof, WKOX 1430 appears to me to be coming in much stronger at night at my location than it ever has since the station (then WXKS) added night service with 1 >kW DA-N. I think the night service was added about 20 years ago. 

>----- 
>Dan Strassberg 
>e-fax 707-215-6367









  .........I too am getting a nearly listenable signal late at night on WKOX-AM 1430,  a bit less than thirty miles due north of the transmitter.

  In the past, if I tuned to 1430 late at night,  there was a battle between the 1430s in  Endicott, NY and Newark, NJ.    The last

  time I checked they hardly intrudded on WKOX-AM at all.  Did  THEY alter their nighttime patterns at all, allowing WKOX-AM to be

  heard better?

From jfa1965@bellsouth.net  Thu Mar  6 09:11:28 2014
From: jfa1965@bellsouth.net (James Armstrong)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 06:11:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Norm Durkee has passed on (WESC)
In-Reply-To: <1394069631.59900.YahooMailNeo@web160203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAJht-8MdgoC+cuk5rbFbMYosfRjhPXnXsePqDuOV9Tkemka2Mg@mail.gmail.com>
 <1394069631.59900.YahooMailNeo@web160203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1394115088.26710.YahooMailNeo@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

As far as I know Al is still around. ?Last time I spoke with him he was in Peabody?I think. ?

I worked with both those gents when I was fresh out of college. ?This was in 1987 and stayed around with them in one form or another for years. ?Learned a bunch from both. ? Norm retired just a year or two after I started......then i never saw him much. ? Al is a stellar gent and I will always look to him as a voice of wisdom.

Jim Armstrong?
Telos Systems


________________________________
 From: Sean Smyth <ssmyth@psualum.com>
To: Bob Nelson <raccoonradio@gmail.com>; (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: Norm Durkee has passed on (WESC)
 

Is Al Needham still around? I remember a number of conversations with him many years ago on the Saturday football scoreboard show. Always was a gentleman toward me.





On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 8:28 PM, Bob Nelson <raccoonradio@gmail.com> wrote:

Longtime WESX personality Norm Durkee died on Feb 28 according to the Salem
News.Among other things he was marooned at the station during the Blizzard
of 78 and helped in coverage

From lglavin@mail.com  Thu Mar  6 15:33:27 2014
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 15:33:27 -0500
Subject: WZBR 1410 Dedham, WKOX 1430 Everett
Message-ID: <20140306203329.18010@gmx.com>

>----- Original Message -----
>From: daniel strassberg
>Sent: 03/05/14 08:50 AM
>To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
>Subject: WZBR 1410 Dedham, WKOX 1430 Everett

>Can anyone explain why WZBR's license to cover was rescinded shortly after it was granted? The announcement of the rescinded grant was in the FCC actions roughly a week ago. Also, >although I can't offer any proof, WKOX 1430 appears to me to be coming in much stronger at night at my location than it ever has since the station (then WXKS) added night service with 1 >kW DA-N. I think the night service was added about 20 years ago. >----- >Dan Strassberg >e-fax 707-215-6367
.........I too am getting a nearly listenable signal late at night on WKOX-AM 1430, a bit less than thirty miles due north of the transmitter.
In the past, if I tuned to 1430 late at night, there was a battle between the 1430s in Endicott, NY and Newark, NJ. The last
time I checked they hardly intrudded on WKOX-AM at all. Did THEY alter their nighttime patterns at all, allowing WKOX-AM to be
heard better?

From tlmedia@triad.rr.com  Thu Mar  6 12:38:42 2014
From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (tlmedia@triad.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 12:38:42 -0500
Subject: Norm Durkee has passed on (WESC)
In-Reply-To: <20140306035411.105230@gmx.com>
References: <20140306035411.105230@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <2267297364C247DBA48F991C8CB7B946@OwnerPC>

The last I heard he was living at Brooksby Village in Peabody.

I found this in the Salem News archive, but no date is listed.

http://www.salemnews.com/archive/x2016388249

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bob Nelson 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 10:54 PM 
To: Sean Smyth ; Bob Nelson ; (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest 
Subject: Re: Norm Durkee has passed on (WESC) 

I don't know if Al is still around or not (I think he spoke at Salem State when I was a student in early 80s
and he mentioned having an "AM stereo" in his car, etc.)

By the way I'd typed this on a smart phone and the post header says "WESC". Meant to type "WESX". Now
that I am back home and using a comp., here is a link to Durkee's obituary with details of a service.

http://www.salemnews.com/obituaries/x1783702709/Norman-Ralph-Durkee-91
--Bob Nelson

From dillane@sbcglobal.net  Sat Mar  8 08:18:00 2014
From: dillane@sbcglobal.net (Bill Dillane)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:18:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: How might it have turned out?
Message-ID: <1394284680.47833.YahooMailNeo@web184902.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Here is a link to the 1947 table...
http://jeff560.tripod.com/1947tvalloc.html

From Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com  Sat Mar  8 12:54:05 2014
From: Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:54:05 -0500
Subject: Funkytown...93.7-HD2?
Message-ID: <990B7147118B44D0B9A80FD7213FFB85@ownerd8aa55a4d>

Does anyone know what happenned to "Funkytown" that was on 93.7-HD2?

It was started as the continuation of the old Star 93.7.

Is it completely gone...or did it end up somewhere else?

Thanks!

D

From scott@fybush.com  Sat Mar  8 14:30:29 2014
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 14:30:29 -0500
Subject: Funkytown...93.7-HD2?
In-Reply-To: <990B7147118B44D0B9A80FD7213FFB85@ownerd8aa55a4d>
References: <990B7147118B44D0B9A80FD7213FFB85@ownerd8aa55a4d>
Message-ID: <CAPM+09cUMz4XiZFws7nzsF+R8okghOfHiRO8OLfeSGxskNk+Vg@mail.gmail.com>

It appears to be gone. Surprised it lasted as long as it did.
On Mar 8, 2014 1:38 PM, "Don" <Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know what happenned to "Funkytown" that was on 93.7-HD2?
>
> It was started as the continuation of the old Star 93.7.
>
> Is it completely gone...or did it end up somewhere else?
>
> Thanks!
>
> D
>

From ncn86@hotmail.com  Sun Mar  9 17:17:13 2014
From: ncn86@hotmail.com (Nickolas Noseworthy)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 17:17:13 -0400
Subject: Stronger HD Signals
Message-ID: <BLU180-W261C67A9D572CADA2AF527A2750@phx.gbl>

I am an avid listener to HD radio, at home with my roof antenna, as well as in my car. But I do get annoyed from time to time at the lack of power that seems to be pushing these signals out. Driving around town in Merrimack, all the Boston (including stations not transmitting directly from the Pru) HD signals will fade in and out. It takes a ride down Route 3, almost to the Lowell Connector, before the HD signals become reliable. Do stations have the ability to raise the power on their digital transmitters?  
 
On another note, some stations seem to have a better digital signal then analog signal. From my home in Merrimack NH, my roof antenna picks up a barely listenable analog signal of WSNE near Providence. But it always catches a full signal of WSNE HD-1, HD-2, and now HD-3. WBLM out of Portland is masked by WLLO-LP in Londonderry, but the HD signal always kicks in with no interruptions. What makes an HD signal travel farther then the analog wave?
 
 
 		 	   		  

From Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com  Thu Mar 13 01:13:32 2014
From: Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 01:13:32 -0400
Subject: Stronger HD Signals
References: <BLU180-W261C67A9D572CADA2AF527A2750@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <75A7B42D155D4E0FBBD576B24AE378E0@ownerd8aa55a4d>

>From what I understand....WKLB 102.5 is the only one that took advantage of 
the ability to up their HD power.

WKLB-HD should come in quite nice almost everywhere.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nickolas Noseworthy" <ncn86@hotmail.com>
To: "Boston Radio Mailing List" 
<boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 5:17 PM
Subject: Stronger HD Signals


I am an avid listener to HD radio, at home with my roof antenna, as well as 
in my car. But I do get annoyed from time to time at the lack of power that 
seems to be pushing these signals out. Driving around town in Merrimack, all 
the Boston (including stations not transmitting directly from the Pru) HD 
signals will fade in and out. It takes a ride down Route 3, almost to the 
Lowell Connector, before the HD signals become reliable. Do stations have 
the ability to raise the power on their digital transmitters?

On another note, some stations seem to have a better digital signal then 
analog signal. From my home in Merrimack NH, my roof antenna picks up a 
barely listenable analog signal of WSNE near Providence. But it always 
catches a full signal of WSNE HD-1, HD-2, and now HD-3. WBLM out of Portland 
is masked by WLLO-LP in Londonderry, but the HD signal always kicks in with 
no interruptions. What makes an HD signal travel farther then the analog 
wave?


       = 


From aerie.ma@comcast.net  Thu Mar 13 09:13:36 2014
From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:13:36 -0400
Subject: Stronger HD Signals
In-Reply-To: <75A7B42D155D4E0FBBD576B24AE378E0@ownerd8aa55a4d>
References: <BLU180-W261C67A9D572CADA2AF527A2750@phx.gbl>
 <75A7B42D155D4E0FBBD576B24AE378E0@ownerd8aa55a4d>
Message-ID: <000301cf3ebe$0afb6670$20f23350$@comcast.net>


I was listening to the jazz on WMJX-HD2 yesterday when, to my surprise, they
aired a *commercial* (for Best Buy). That's the first time I've heard an ad
on an HD2/3 station that is not a simulcast. I wonder when (if?) an HD2/3
station will finally show up in the ratings.


From scott@fybush.com  Thu Mar 13 12:57:32 2014
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:57:32 -0400
Subject: Stronger HD Signals
In-Reply-To: <BLU180-W261C67A9D572CADA2AF527A2750@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU180-W261C67A9D572CADA2AF527A2750@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5321E37C.10709@fybush.com>

On 3/9/2014 5:17 PM, Nickolas Noseworthy wrote:

> Do stations have the ability to raise
> the power on their digital transmitters?

Yes, to a certain extent.

The original rules for HD said the HD carrier should run at -20dBC 
(decibels below carrier), or 1% of the analog power. Except for WGBH, 
all of the major FM stations in Boston are "height-derated," operating 
with significantly less than a full 50 kW because their antennas are 
higher than the 150 meters that's standard for a class B FM. The Pru 
stations use roughly 22 kW, so they're putting out only 220 watts on 
their HD carriers. The stations out at FM128 use even less - WJMN, for 
instance, has just 9.2 kW ERP analog, so 92 watts on digital.

The FCC now allows all FM stations to increase to -14 dBC, which is 
approximately 3% of analog power. With a showing of no interference, 
stations can go all the way to -10 dBC, or 10% of analog power. I 
believe WKLB is now using -14 and has experimented with -10.

But there's a significant cost associated with raising HD power - not 
just a higher-powered transmitter but also replacing much of the 
transmission infrastructure (combiners, circulators, etc.) that connects 
the HD transmitter to the antenna. This is especially difficult at a 
shared site like the Pru. And so far, there's no return on investment to 
justify that kind of capital expenditure.

> On another note, some stations seem to have a better digital signal
> then analog signal. From my home in Merrimack NH, my roof antenna
> picks up a barely listenable analog signal of WSNE near Providence.
> But it always catches a full signal of WSNE HD-1, HD-2, and now HD-3.
> WBLM out of Portland is masked by WLLO-LP in Londonderry, but the HD
> signal always kicks in with no interruptions. What makes an HD signal
> travel farther then the analog wave?

It's all about co-channel interference. "93.3-HD" doesn't actually share 
a channel with 93.3 analog. The HD system, while described as 
"in-band-on-channel" (IBOC), is really "in-band-adjacent-channel" 
(IBAC). The digital carriers for WSNE occupy the same frequencies used 
by analog stations on 93.1 and 93.5, and those are fairly open channels 
in southern NH. Same for 102.7 and 103.1, which is where WBLM's HD 
carriers live. Your HD receiver is designed to lock in on those 
sidebands first, if it can find them, and disregard whatever's in the 
analog channel in between. So once it detects HD from WSNE or WBLM, it 
disregards whatever's happening on the analog channel between the HD 
carriers - WLLO-LP (analog-only) in the case of 102.9, or the weak WSNE 
analog (presumably mixing with analog-only 93.3 Belmont/Concord) on 93.3.

Make sense?

From wollman@bimajority.org  Thu Mar 13 13:15:38 2014
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:15:38 -0400
Subject: Stronger HD Signals
In-Reply-To: <000301cf3ebe$0afb6670$20f23350$@comcast.net>
References: <BLU180-W261C67A9D572CADA2AF527A2750@phx.gbl>
 <75A7B42D155D4E0FBBD576B24AE378E0@ownerd8aa55a4d>
 <000301cf3ebe$0afb6670$20f23350$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <21281.59322.25324.352681@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:13:36 -0400, "Jim Hall" <aerie.ma@comcast.net> said:

> I was listening to the jazz on WMJX-HD2 yesterday when, to my surprise, they
> aired a *commercial* (for Best Buy). That's the first time I've heard an ad
> on an HD2/3 station that is not a simulcast. I wonder when (if?) an HD2/3
> station will finally show up in the ratings.

They do, in markets where they are simulcast on translators.  I don't
think I've heard of any market where HD receiver penetration is
sufficient to get multicasts in the book on their own right -- the two
markets where I'd bet on it happening first are Washington (home of
iBiquity) and Los Angeles.

-GAWollman

From jjlehmann@comcast.net  Thu Mar 13 13:39:58 2014
From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:39:58 -0400
Subject: Stronger HD Signals
In-Reply-To: <75A7B42D155D4E0FBBD576B24AE378E0@ownerd8aa55a4d>
References: <BLU180-W261C67A9D572CADA2AF527A2750@phx.gbl>
 <75A7B42D155D4E0FBBD576B24AE378E0@ownerd8aa55a4d>
Message-ID: <001501cf3ee3$40fe4e20$c2faea60$@net>

> On another note, some stations seem to have a better digital signal
> then
> analog signal. From my home in Merrimack NH, my roof antenna picks up a
> barely listenable analog signal of WSNE near Providence. But it always
> catches a full signal of WSNE HD-1, HD-2, and now HD-3. WBLM out of
> Portland
> is masked by WLLO-LP in Londonderry, but the HD signal always kicks in
> with
> no interruptions. What makes an HD signal travel farther then the
> analog
> wave?

WBLM's HD signal had been off the air for several years. Have you picked it
up recently, or thinking back to several years ago? I supposed it is
possible that the new ownership (Townsquare) decided to turn it back on.

Jeff Lehmann


From elipolo@earthlink.net  Thu Mar 13 14:56:19 2014
From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:56:19 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: Stronger HD Signals
Message-ID: <2717043.1394736979591.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

The "WBCN Free Form Rock" channel on 100.7 WZLX HD3 
had a few commercials for concerts in the Boston 
area presented by the Boston office of the national
concert promoter "Live Nation" (run by longtime area
concert promoter Don Law) a few years ago.

I remember reading a few years ago that an HD2 station
with a bluegrass music format showed up at the bottom
of the ratings in one of the Virginias or Carolinas, 
I don't remember which.

With so few receivers on the market, consumer apathy,
and almost non-existent promotion of HD radio, I doubt
that any HD subchannel stations in Boston or anywhere 
else are anywhere close to making even the bottom of 
a ratings chart nowadays, though some of them have 
more listeners via simulcasting on internet streams. 
I don't know whether PPM encoding for radio stations
transfers to people listening to streaming simulcasts 
on their computers or other online devices.

EP


>Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:13:36 -0400
>From: "Jim Hall" <aerie.ma@comcast.net>
>To: "'Boston Radio Mailing List'"
><boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org>
>Subject: RE: Stronger HD Signals
>
>I was listening to the jazz on WMJX-HD2 yesterday when, 
>to my surprise, they aired a *commercial* (for Best Buy). 
>That's the first time I've heard an ad on an HD2/3 station 
>that is not a simulcast. I wonder when (if?) an HD2/3 station 
>will finally show up in the ratings.




From ncn86@hotmail.com  Thu Mar 13 14:46:37 2014
From: ncn86@hotmail.com (Nickolas Noseworthy)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:46:37 -0400
Subject: Stronger HD Signals
Message-ID: <BLU180-W265E3CE79305B7DE5E963EA2710@phx.gbl>

>The FCC now allows all FM stations to increase to -14 dBC, which is >approximately 3% of analog power. With a showing of no interference, >stations can go all the way to -10 dBC, or 10% of analog power. I >believe WKLB is now using -14 and has experimented with -10.
With no show of interference? What does the digital band interfere with that would make it so detrimental to move beyond a measly 3%? I understand that we don't want HD signals shooting outside of the analog stations coverage area. But the HD signal should at least cover up to the fringe area of the analog signal. If I can listen to Kiss 108 in my house with a great analog signal, the HD signal should be there as well.  >But there's a significant cost associated with raising HD power - not >just a higher-powered transmitter but also replacing much of the >transmission infrastructure (combiners, circulators, etc.) that connects >the HD transmitter to the antenna. This is especially difficult at a >shared site like the Pru. And so far, there's no return on investment to >justify that kind of capital expenditure.
So I guess my next question is, what needs to be done for HD Radio to bring a return on investment? What about leasing an HD sub-channel? What about leasing time on a sub-channel, such as Haitian or Irish? Instead of paying for a mediocre AM signal and bad sound , they could give that same money to a bigger FM with CD sound? Or just getting more AM stations to simulcast on HD sub-channels? (not just stations you own). Stations could then be promoting HD radio, and that would drive listeners to stores to have a listen. As more people buy these receivers, prices will go down. But for right now, there has to be a way to raise money so that stations will find it viable to upgrade their IBOC systems. The more options and variety you put on your main channel and sub-channels, coupled with more power, it seems only logical that an increase in listernship would occur. Which would mean more revenue. Please tell me if I'm wrong. 

 		 	   		  

From scott@fybush.com  Thu Mar 13 19:09:57 2014
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 19:09:57 -0400
Subject: Stronger HD Signals
In-Reply-To: <BLU180-W265E3CE79305B7DE5E963EA2710@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU180-W265E3CE79305B7DE5E963EA2710@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <53223AC5.1050802@fybush.com>

On 3/13/2014 2:46 PM, Nickolas Noseworthy wrote:

> With no show of interference? What does the digital band interfere
> with that would make it so detrimental to move beyond a measly 3%?

The problem is that bit about the digital being on adjacent frequencies 
outside the 200 kHz of bandwidth occupied by the analog signal.

So take WKLB for instance: if it cranks up digital power on "102.5," 
it's really putting more energy into the bandwidth used by the analog 
signals of stations on 102.7 and 102.3. That's a very real-world problem 
if you're Rhode Island Public Radio trying to reach as much of the state 
as possible on WRNI-FM 102.7.

Pretty much every FM in the northeast is already short-spaced, so 
there's not much breathing room to start dropping digital signals in at 
higher power. Imagine the mutual destruction if, say, WHRB and WBRU both 
put on high-power HD: WBRU's lower sideband on 95.3 would cut into 
WHRB's analog, and WHRB's upper sideband on 95.5 would do the same to WBRU.

> The more options and variety
> you put on your main channel and sub-channels, coupled with more
> power, it seems only logical that an increase in listernship would
> occur. Which would mean more revenue. Please tell me if I'm wrong.

That was certainly the theory when this all started a decade ago. But 
the radio industry didn't understand that the radios weren't going to 
sell themselves, and until recently there's been no coherent 
industry-wide effort to do what the SiriusXMs and Sprints of the world 
have done: provide incentives to the electronics industry to support 
your efforts.

The kids in the blue shirts at Best Buy get kickbacks when they sell a 
satellite radio or a Verizon cellphone. They don't get anything extra 
when they sell an HD Radio. Which do you think they'll push harder when 
Joe Consumer walks in the door?

And on a larger scale, the satellite and wireless companies are paying, 
heavily, to be in the dashboard of your next car. HD, not so much. 
That's why it's a near-certainty that whatever you buy next will come 
with a SiriusXM trial and, soon, with a wireless data connection. The 
radio industry let a decade of that go by before it tried to fight back, 
and now it's probably too late.

Also, the big guys with the HD signals - Clear Channel, Entercom, 
Greater, CBS - have spent literally hundreds of millions of dollars 
ensuring that they have exclusive use of the scarce full-power FM 
signals in markets like Boston. How much would they have to charge an 
independent AM like WNTN or WUFC or (not that he'd ever pay it) WJIB to 
make the extra potential competition worth it?

And what ethnic broadcaster will shell out thousands of dollars a month 
to lease an HD channel that few listeners can hear, when they can spend 
that same money, or less, putting a pirate signal on the air that 
everyone can hear on analog FM?

It's a tough economic case to make right now for HD.

From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Thu Mar 13 21:22:01 2014
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 18:22:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Stronger HD Signals
In-Reply-To: <BLU180-W265E3CE79305B7DE5E963EA2710@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU180-W265E3CE79305B7DE5E963EA2710@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1394760121.89279.YahooMailNeo@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>




>>So I guess my next question is, what needs to be done for HD Radio to bring a return on investment? <<

I think of the additional FM HD channels similar to a station's web site.

It's a place to put added content that can't be on the main channel, and will be used as "value added" when needed to secure a buy.

A website doesn't necessarily make money for the station, but it allows for extra inventory and promotional opportunities.

>> What about leasing an HD sub-channel? 

Before they bought 1060AM...I know there was a Catholic group that was fishing around trying to lease an HD2 signal for EWTN.? 

However, the value to the radio dial is to add more (niche) music formats.? The formats that people seem to miss have been Jazz, Oldies and Classical (before 99.5 put it back.? This would be a good place for those formats.

>>What about leasing time on a sub-channel, such as Haitian or Irish?

Irish music is already on 96.9 HD2.?? Every time an operator "leases out" a station or channel, it cheapens the product.? 

>>Instead of paying for a mediocre AM signal and bad sound, they could give that same money to a bigger FM with CD sound? 

I would LOVE to see AM 740 rebroadcast on some FM HD 2 or 3 channel.

Do you remember when FM was young?? The appeal of the FM stations was few commercials.? "In the next 60 minutes...you'll hear 59 minutes of the worlds most beautiful music!"

FM 97.....W-J-I-B....ALL Music!? <ding>

From map@mapinternet.com  Fri Mar 14 13:23:43 2014
From: map@mapinternet.com (M. Casey)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:23:43 -0400
Subject: One bright spot for HD: New Cars
In-Reply-To: <53223AC5.1050802@fybush.com>
References: <BLU180-W265E3CE79305B7DE5E963EA2710@phx.gbl>
 <53223AC5.1050802@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <DF9B85E619D84C00B377402DA636B07E@CASEYPC>

There is one bright spot in HD radio's future:
New Cars.
Many, many new cars come standard with HD now. Given the fact
that a significant, in fact maybe, the majority of broadcast radio listening
is done in cars..... If ALL models from ALL auto and truck manufacturers
came standard with HD Radio, then that would be a big boost for HD. Sure, it
would take 5 or 10 years until most of the new cars became used cars
and most eveyrone had a car with HD, but still, it just may happen that 
way--
--a good chance with FM HD, but doubtful AM HD. AM HD does sound as
good or nearly as good as Analog FM but they probably should just give up
on AM HD now unless the licencing and equipment costs dramatically decline,
enough so, that even the smallest AM's can afford to add HD. But that's not
likely to happen.

Mark Casey

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Fybush" <scott@fybush.com>
To: <boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: Stronger HD Signals


On 3/13/2014 2:46 PM, Nickolas Noseworthy wrote:

> The more options and variety
> you put on your main channel and sub-channels, coupled with more
> power, it seems only logical that an increase in listernship would
> occur. Which would mean more revenue. Please tell me if I'm wrong.

That was certainly the theory when this all started a decade ago. But
the radio industry didn't understand that the radios weren't going to
sell themselves, and until recently there's been no coherent
industry-wide effort to do what the SiriusXMs and Sprints of the world
have done: provide incentives to the electronics industry to support
your efforts.

The kids in the blue shirts at Best Buy get kickbacks when they sell a
satellite radio or a Verizon cellphone. They don't get anything extra
when they sell an HD Radio. Which do you think they'll push harder when
Joe Consumer walks in the door?

And on a larger scale, the satellite and wireless companies are paying,
heavily, to be in the dashboard of your next car. HD, not so much.
That's why it's a near-certainty that whatever you buy next will come
with a SiriusXM trial and, soon, with a wireless data connection. The
radio industry let a decade of that go by before it tried to fight back,
and now it's probably too late.

Also, the big guys with the HD signals - Clear Channel, Entercom,
Greater, CBS - have spent literally hundreds of millions of dollars
ensuring that they have exclusive use of the scarce full-power FM
signals in markets like Boston. How much would they have to charge an
independent AM like WNTN or WUFC or (not that he'd ever pay it) WJIB to
make the extra potential competition worth it?

And what ethnic broadcaster will shell out thousands of dollars a month
to lease an HD channel that few listeners can hear, when they can spend
that same money, or less, putting a pirate signal on the air that
everyone can hear on analog FM?

It's a tough economic case to make right now for HD.



From Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com  Sat Mar 15 01:00:34 2014
From: Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 01:00:34 -0400
Subject: Blue Tooth Transmitter?
Message-ID: <AA2C791F46EA41A2B4E2E2B24DFA78BE@ownerd8aa55a4d>

Can anyone suggest a goog blue tooth transmitter?

I have a wi-fi internet radio in my little home office and I would like to 
listen to some of the internet broadcasts from this....in the kitchen where 
I have a Bose radio (with a blue tooth receiver.)

Can you recommend a good 'adapter' that will transmit blue tooth from the 
office to the kitchen?  One that will give decent range too.

Thanks!

d 


From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Sun Mar 16 00:44:29 2014
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2014 05:44:29 +0100
Subject: D. A.
Message-ID: <098114e442663e9f9388c527ad6e567b@mwinf5d49.me-wanadoo.net>

http://dimespa.com/st/fox_newsx.php
D. A.

From ssmyth@psualum.com  Mon Mar 24 17:43:10 2014
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:43:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Group contesting WGBH license renewal
Message-ID: <1395697390.42612.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Based on its lack of music programming. 

http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/2014/03/24/committee-files-peitition-asking-fcc-deny-renewal-wgbh-broadcast-license/5iqaKirrVFDwVoChQGr5JP/story.html

From wollman@bimajority.org  Tue Mar 25 23:50:47 2014
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 23:50:47 -0400
Subject: Group contesting WGBH license renewal
In-Reply-To: <1395697390.42612.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1395697390.42612.YahooMailNeo@web160204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <21298.20119.995222.650621@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:43:10 -0700 (PDT), Sean Smyth <ssmyth@psualum.com> said:

> Based on its lack of music programming. 

Well, that's a complete waste of time.

-GAWollman


From lsochrin@rcn.com  Wed Mar 26 16:53:52 2014
From: lsochrin@rcn.com (Larry Sochrin)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 16:53:52 -0400
Subject: New TIVO not playing well with OTA channels
Message-ID: <1D2697D9-6A95-4282-B35F-847BEB235ECF@rcn.com>

Hi.  I got a new TIVO (Roamio) to do DVR?ing with over-the-air digital antenna channels which I receive in a large condo complex through its master digital antenna system.

For most channels, however, the TIVO asks me to pick one of two choices based on my zip code and scanning my antenna. One comes in strong, displays well on my TV, but shows NO TIVO information for the unit to use for its features such as program guide, or scheduling recording, etc.  The other comes in weakly, not enough there to see or hear anything, but it contains all the information that displays in the program guide, is used for scheduling recording, etc. Here?s an example:

2-1 WGBH-DT (TIVO shows it as frequency 19, signal strength 32)
2-1 WGBH-HD (TIVO shows it as  frequency 2, signal strength 67)

The tech support people at TIVO have said:
1. First person - try buying an indoor antenna or putting in a blank cable card if I can find one. (huh?)
2. Second person - reboot thee machine and everything will be fine (I?d already done that lots of times, but did again to no help.)
3. Third person - keep putting different local town zip codes into zap2it.com, an online TV program guide, until I find one that shows both listings.  (I tried, they all show the same one listing, never both.)

I?m stumped.  Before I send the thing back, I?d appreciate any help from someone here.  Thanks!!

Larry



From scott@fybush.com  Wed Mar 26 18:20:39 2014
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:20:39 -0400
Subject: WMUR 60th anniversary special
Message-ID: <CAPM+09dGBr7BhsX0OQdB2whwrtqMJ9r+KK6hYNCZ6ktYpxQoNQ@mail.gmail.com>

Just got word that they're doing an hour long special from 7-8 tonight.

I'd love to see it if anyone is in a position to record it!

From markwats@comcast.net  Thu Mar 27 16:24:09 2014
From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:24:09 -0400
Subject: WMUR 60th anniversary special
References: <CAPM+09dGBr7BhsX0OQdB2whwrtqMJ9r+KK6hYNCZ6ktYpxQoNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <36974491F288460BAA4DF3952E25F1BA@MarkOTS3>

I wasn't able to record the show (sorry Scott), but there was vey little 
historical footage shown, as it was mostly a look at a typical day in the 
WMUR newsroom, from when the morning show producers and anchors start 
arriving for work around 2:30AM till the 11PM anchors leave the building 
just before Midnight. They had cameras sitting in on the daily newsroom 
meetings, the control room during the newscasts, a view of the news set from 
behind the cameras, following reporters in the field, etc. It was a very 
interesting look at all it takes to put the morning, Noon, evening and late 
newscasts together. Going into the commercial breaks they showed brief 
archival clips, one was color home movie footage (with sound) of Uncle Gus 
interviewing a child, probably from the 1970's, next break was a black & 
white videotape clip of the Clyde Joy country music show. next was a news 
promo from the early 1980's.

This look at WMUR's news operation shows how far they've come from the days 
under United Television ownership when the whole station was run on the 
cheap and they only aired 5 hours of news a week, and the Uncle Gus Show was 
their highest rated show.

Mark 


From kvahey@gmail.com  Thu Mar 27 17:11:20 2014
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 17:11:20 -0400
Subject: WMUR 60th anniversary special
In-Reply-To: <36974491F288460BAA4DF3952E25F1BA@MarkOTS3>
References: <CAPM+09dGBr7BhsX0OQdB2whwrtqMJ9r+KK6hYNCZ6ktYpxQoNQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <36974491F288460BAA4DF3952E25F1BA@MarkOTS3>
Message-ID: <CABnTNsOzJ-YSQFeXJYqCAMzmbwRiMeBLWSd6JaVyxn4+CKhzMQ@mail.gmail.com>

When I was there the news office was the size of a broom closet and
the UPI teletype was next to the Coke machine in the lobby.

ABC in NY called one night to see if we had footage of a plane crash
in Lebanon. What plane crash we replied.

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Mark Watson <markwats@comcast.net> wrote:
> I wasn't able to record the show (sorry Scott), but there was vey little
> historical footage shown, as it was mostly a look at a typical day in the
> WMUR newsroom, from when the morning show producers and anchors start
> arriving for work around 2:30AM till the 11PM anchors leave the building
> just before Midnight. They had cameras sitting in on the daily newsroom
> meetings, the control room during the newscasts, a view of the news set from
> behind the cameras, following reporters in the field, etc. It was a very
> interesting look at all it takes to put the morning, Noon, evening and late
> newscasts together. Going into the commercial breaks they showed brief
> archival clips, one was color home movie footage (with sound) of Uncle Gus
> interviewing a child, probably from the 1970's, next break was a black &
> white videotape clip of the Clyde Joy country music show. next was a news
> promo from the early 1980's.
>
> This look at WMUR's news operation shows how far they've come from the days
> under United Television ownership when the whole station was run on the
> cheap and they only aired 5 hours of news a week, and the Uncle Gus Show was
> their highest rated show.
>
> Mark

From lglavin@mail.com  Thu Mar 27 16:16:58 2014
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:16:58 -0400
Subject: Strange Doings At WNTN-AM 1550 Newton, MA
Message-ID: <20140327201659.237540@gmx.com>

For many years, WNTN-AM-1550 in Newton, MA had been not only a strict daytimer even though they could have
operated with flea-power (a la WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge, Ma for example) at night, but in the spring and summer, they
went off-the-air at 5:00 pm or so when local sunsets were much later. I've observed a few other datimers that stayed on a little
longer in the evening after wintertime but nonetheless pulled the plug early in June and July, but WNTN just seemed to call it quits at 5:00
no matter what. Then I read that lately the station has been broadcast with a mighty THREE watts overnight, so I figured that
as the hours of sunlight increased, they'd keep running at 10,000 watts until local sunset. But no, at exactly 5:00 pm since the
start of Daylight Saving Time, WNTN seems to start running at its nighttime authorization of THREE watts! What's surprising to
me is that when I caught them doing that, I was in my automobile on route 93 North just before the Merrimack River in Andover. That means I must
have one of the most sensitive AM sections on a car radio in the US to be getting an audible THREE-WATT AM station high up
on the dial from thirty miles away.

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Fri Mar 28 11:13:01 2014
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (daniel strassberg)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:13:01 -0400
Subject: Strange Doings At WNTN-AM 1550 Newton, MA
References: <20140327201659.237540@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <658AA6B54A204D35919FCA60C46B3304@PC281321418224>

Don't forget "in New England, home of some of America's worst soil condutivity." If this were North Dakota or someplace like that, you might expect 3W at 1550 to be audible 30 miles from the tower. Also, I believe I read somewhere that 1550 in Windsor ON is back on the air but not as CBE and not being operated by the CBC.

-----
Dan Strassberg
e-fax 707-215-6367
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Laurence Glavin 
  To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:16 PM
  Subject: Strange Doings At WNTN-AM 1550 Newton, MA


  For many years, WNTN-AM-1550 in Newton, MA had been not only a strict daytimer even though they could have
  operated with flea-power (a la WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge, Ma for example) at night, but in the spring and summer, they
  went off-the-air at 5:00 pm or so when local sunsets were much later. I've observed a few other datimers that stayed on a little
  longer in the evening after wintertime but nonetheless pulled the plug early in June and July, but WNTN just seemed to call it quits at 5:00
  no matter what. Then I read that lately the station has been broadcast with a mighty THREE watts overnight, so I figured that
  as the hours of sunlight increased, they'd keep running at 10,000 watts until local sunset. But no, at exactly 5:00 pm since the
  start of Daylight Saving Time, WNTN seems to start running at its nighttime authorization of THREE watts! What's surprising to
  me is that when I caught them doing that, I was in my automobile on route 93 North just before the Merrimack River in Andover. That means I must
  have one of the most sensitive AM sections on a car radio in the US to be getting an audible THREE-WATT AM station high up
  on the dial from thirty miles away.

From scott@fybush.com  Fri Mar 28 14:10:18 2014
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:10:18 -0400
Subject: Strange Doings At WNTN-AM 1550 Newton, MA
In-Reply-To: <658AA6B54A204D35919FCA60C46B3304@PC281321418224>
References: <20140327201659.237540@gmx.com>
 <658AA6B54A204D35919FCA60C46B3304@PC281321418224>
Message-ID: <5335BB0A.8010801@fybush.com>

On 3/28/2014 11:13 AM, daniel strassberg wrote:
> Don't forget "in New England, home of some of America's worst soil
> condutivity." If this were North Dakota or someplace like that, you
> might expect 3W at 1550 to be audible 30 miles from the tower. Also,
> I believe I read somewhere that 1550 in Windsor ON is back on the air
> but not as CBE and not being operated by the CBC.
>

It's not CBE, true, but it's still a CBC outlet, albeit in French. They 
moved CBEF there from 540 because the 1550 facility was in much better 
shape.

From 011010001@interpring.com  Fri Mar 28 13:40:09 2014
From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:40:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Strange Doings At WNTN-AM 1550 Newton, MA
In-Reply-To: <20140327201659.237540@gmx.com>
References: <20140327201659.237540@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1403281332540.7621@python>


Hmm. That suggests they may be using a simple timer to change between day 
and night modes. 1180 in Hope Valley, RI was running that way when my 
then-employer took it over.

Most of the stations I deal with have something like a Sine Systems RFC-1B 
remote control system, which can be programmed with sign on/sign off times 
for every month of the year. As long as the power doesn't fail -- in which 
case the unit forgets what day and time it is -- it will switch 
automatically at the correct times.


Rob



On Thu, 27 Mar 2014, Laurence Glavin wrote:

> For many years, WNTN-AM-1550 in Newton, MA had been not only a strict 
> daytimer even though they could have operated with flea-power (a la 
> WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge, Ma for example) at night, but in the spring 
> and summer, they went off-the-air at 5:00 pm or so when local sunsets 
> were much later. I've observed a few other datimers that stayed on a 
> little longer in the evening after wintertime but nonetheless pulled the 
> plug early in June and July, but WNTN just seemed to call it quits at 
> 5:00 no matter what. Then I read that lately the station has been 
> broadcast with a mighty THREE watts overnight, so I figured that as the 
> hours of sunlight increased, they'd keep running at 10,000 watts until 
> local sunset. But no, at exactly 5:00 pm since the start of Daylight 
> Saving Time, WNTN seems to start running at its nighttime authorization 
> of THREE watts!


From martinjwaters@yahoo.com  Fri Mar 28 14:22:03 2014
From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:22:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Strange Doings At WNTN-AM 1550 Newton, MA
In-Reply-To: <20140327201659.237540@gmx.com>
References: <20140327201659.237540@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <1396030923.47395.YahooMailNeo@web121401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

?????? High on the dial there, just below the shortwave bands, maybe you were getting the three-watt daytime skywave signal . . . :)?? 
???? 



On Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:08 PM, Laurence Glavin <lglavin@mail.com> wrote:
  
For many years, WNTN-AM-1550 in Newton, MA had been not only a strict daytimer even though they could have
>operated with flea-power (a la WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge, Ma for example) at night, but in the spring and summer, they
>went off-the-air at 5:00 pm or so when local sunsets were much later. I've observed a few other datimers that stayed on a little
>longer in the evening after wintertime but nonetheless pulled the plug early in June and July, but WNTN just seemed to call it quits at 5:00
>no matter what. Then I read that lately the station has been broadcast with a mighty THREE watts overnight, so I figured that
>as the hours of sunlight increased, they'd keep running at 10,000 watts until local sunset. But no, at exactly 5:00 pm since the
>start of Daylight Saving Time, WNTN seems to start running at its nighttime authorization of THREE watts! What's surprising to
>me is that when I caught them doing that, I was in my automobile on route 93 North just before the Merrimack River in Andover. That means I must
>have one of the most sensitive AM sections on a car radio in the US to be getting an audible THREE-WATT AM station high up
>on the dial from thirty miles away.
>
>
>     

From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net  Fri Mar 28 14:50:11 2014
From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:50:11 -0400
Subject: Strange Doings At WNTN-AM 1550 Newton, MA
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1403281332540.7621@python>
References: <20140327201659.237540@gmx.com>
 <alpine.DEB.2.00.1403281332540.7621@python>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20140328144649.03e843c8@plymouthcolony.net>

At 01:40 PM 3/28/2014, Rob Landry wrote:

>Most of the stations I deal with have something like a Sine Systems RFC-1B remote control system, which can be programmed with sign on/sign off times for every month of the year. As long as the power doesn't fail -- in which case the unit forgets what day and time it is -- it will switch automatically at the correct times.

A Sine should always be run on a UPS, and the power-up action sequence needs to be enabled and programmed to call someone who knows how to reset the clock and calendar if an extended power outage runs down the UPS.

Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html