From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Nov 1 17:27:23 2013 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 17:27:23 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush Message-ID: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> A very nice newspaper article about Scott's expertise in radio history and his love of radio towers: http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/local/2013/10/26/brighton-man-is-an-authority-of-the-airwaves/3267853/ From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Nov 1 19:35:29 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:35:29 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> On 11/1/2013 5:27 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > A very nice newspaper article about Scott's expertise in radio history > and his love of radio towers: > http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/local/2013/10/26/brighton-man-is-an-authority-of-the-airwaves/3267853/ > I guess there's a Brighton somewhere near Rochester? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Nov 1 21:10:14 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:10:14 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: You guess correctly, sir! The Brighton here and the British community for which it was named are hardly the world's (or even the US's) only Brightons. I have no idea how many Brightons there are in the US, but I'm pretty sure that there is one near Denver and I think it is far from the only other Brighton in the US. Someone on this list may know the US total and will share it with us. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Joseph Ross" To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 7:35 PM Subject: Re: hats off to Scott Fybush > On 11/1/2013 5:27 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > >> A very nice newspaper article about Scott's expertise in radio history >> and his love of radio towers: >> >> http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/local/2013/10/26/brighton-man-is-an-authority-of-the-airwaves/3267853/ > > I guess there's a Brighton somewhere near Rochester? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Nov 1 21:16:58 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:16:58 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Numerous Brighton's around the globe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_(disambiguation) On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > You guess correctly, sir! The Brighton here and the British community for > which it was named are hardly the world's (or even the US's) only > Brightons. > I have no idea how many Brightons there are in the US, but I'm pretty sure > that there is one near Denver and I think it is far from the only other > Brighton in the US. Someone on this list may know the US total and will > share it with us. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Joseph Ross" > To: > > > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 7:35 PM > Subject: Re: hats off to Scott Fybush > > > > On 11/1/2013 5:27 PM, Donna Halper wrote: >> >> A very nice newspaper article about Scott's expertise in radio history >>> and his love of radio towers: >>> >>> http://www.**democratandchronicle.com/**story/news/local/2013/10/26/** >>> brighton-man-is-an-authority-**of-the-airwaves/3267853/ >>> >> >> I guess there's a Brighton somewhere near Rochester? >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 >> 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> > From Jibguy@aol.com Fri Nov 1 21:21:15 2013 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush Message-ID: Yes, Brighton, NY is the suburb on the southern border of Rochester. Nice suburb. Active; high-priced homes, etc. Not dead like Rochester itself. I used to own my first house in Brighton, NY (1970-73)...... well MOSTLY in Brighton. About 27 square feet of it was in Rochester, so I had 2 tax bills every year. ---jibguy From Jibguy@aol.com Fri Nov 1 21:27:35 2013 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush Message-ID: And Brighton, NY is home to several nice tower sites. I think all of these are there: 950, 1280, 1370, 1460. ----jibguy From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Nov 1 21:39:00 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:39:00 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com><52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> Imagine: One state (New York) actually has THREE Brightons. I sure didn't know that! Really validates the idea of postal codes (Zip codes). I didn't find the locations of the two that don't abut Rochester, but the WikiPedia article may contain a map. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: "A Joseph Ross" ; "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 9:13 PM Subject: Re: hats off to Scott Fybush > Towns, Cities and places named Brighton: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_(disambiguation) > > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Dan.Strassberg > wrote: > >> You guess correctly, sir! The Brighton here and the British community for >> which it was named are hardly the world's (or even the US's) only >> Brightons. >> I have no idea how many Brightons there are in the US, but I'm pretty >> sure >> that there is one near Denver and I think it is far from the only other >> Brighton in the US. Someone on this list may know the US total and will >> share it with us. >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Joseph Ross" >> To: >> >> > >> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 7:35 PM >> Subject: Re: hats off to Scott Fybush >> >> >> >> On 11/1/2013 5:27 PM, Donna Halper wrote: >>> >>> A very nice newspaper article about Scott's expertise in radio history >>>> and his love of radio towers: >>>> >>>> http://www.**democratandchronicle.com/**story/news/local/2013/10/26/** >>>> brighton-man-is-an-authority-**of-the-airwaves/3267853/ >>>> >>> >>> I guess there's a Brighton somewhere near Rochester? >>> >>> -- >>> A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 >>> 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com >>> >>> >> > From scott@fybush.com Fri Nov 1 21:42:54 2013 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 21:42:54 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5274589E.7010809@fybush.com> On 11/1/2013 9:27 PM, Jibguy@aol.com wrote: > And Brighton, NY is home to several nice tower sites. I think all of > these are there: 950, 1280, 1370, 1460. Not 1460 anymore: the site Bob remembers on Winton Road is now an office park, and the current version of 1460 is a few miles to the southwest in Henrietta. And I have to defend the city of Rochester here: as with any older city (Boston very much included) it has its decaying parts and dangerous neighborhoods. But it also has some wonderful, vibrant areas that are a lot more exciting now than they were when I was growing up here. For instance: http://southwedge.com/ And: http://www.park-avenue.org/ Not dead yet... :) s From scott@fybush.com Fri Nov 1 21:54:40 2013 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 21:54:40 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com><52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <52745B60.3060509@fybush.com> On 11/1/2013 9:39 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Imagine: One state (New York) actually has THREE Brightons. I sure didn't > know that! Really validates the idea of postal codes (Zip codes). I didn't > find the locations of the two that don't abut Rochester, but the WikiPedia > article may contain a map. > One of them is just an alternate name for a neighborhood within the city of Syracuse (and a small neighborhood, too, not like Brighton, Mass.) There are two incorporated towns named Brighton, and that is indeed odd. One of them is a very thinly-populated remote area in the Adirondacks. The other is my suburb of Rochester. Oddly, "my" Brighton doesn't exist as far as USPS (or telco) are concerned. There are three zips in the town of Brighton, but they're all "Rochester NY" zip codes. (USPS recognizes two of them, but not mine, as having "Brighton NY" as an alternate city.) And if I call you, it will come up on your caller ID as "Rochester," too. There's also no zip code designated for the Adirondack Brighton - its mail comes to the hamlet of Paul Smiths NY. This is not at all uncommon in upstate New York, where incorporated villages and unincorporated hamlets are often more significant identifiers than the incorporated towns that contain them. From bob.bosra@demattia.net Fri Nov 1 21:16:53 2013 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:16:53 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com>, <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com>, Message-ID: >From Wikipedia: Brighton, AlabamaBrighton, ColoradoBrighton, IllinoisBrighton, IndianaBrighton, IowaBrighton, Boston, a dissolved municipality and current neighborhood of Boston, MassachusettsBrighton, MichiganBrighton, MissouriBrighton, Monroe County, New YorkBrighton, Franklin County, New YorkBrighton, OhioBrighton, OregonBrighton, TennesseeBrighton, VermontBrighton, Kenosha County, Wisconsin, a townBrighton, Marathon County, Wisconsin, a town > From: dan.strassberg@att.net > To: joe@attorneyross.com; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: hats off to Scott Fybush > Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:10:14 -0400 > > You guess correctly, sir! The Brighton here and the British community for > which it was named are hardly the world's (or even the US's) only Brightons. > I have no idea how many Brightons there are in the US, but I'm pretty sure > that there is one near Denver and I think it is far from the only other > Brighton in the US. Someone on this list may know the US total and will > share it with us. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Joseph Ross" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 7:35 PM > Subject: Re: hats off to Scott Fybush > > > > On 11/1/2013 5:27 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > > > >> A very nice newspaper article about Scott's expertise in radio history > >> and his love of radio towers: > >> > >> http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/local/2013/10/26/brighton-man-is-an-authority-of-the-airwaves/3267853/ > > > > I guess there's a Brighton somewhere near Rochester? > > > > -- > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 > > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From mward@iname.com Fri Nov 1 20:57:54 2013 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 20:57:54 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: On Nov 1, 2013 8:07 PM, "A Joseph Ross" wrote: > I guess there's a Brighton somewhere near Rochester? Right under Scott's feet, yes. :) From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Nov 1 22:28:10 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 22:28:10 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <5274633A.50109@attorneyross.com> On 11/1/2013 9:13 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > Towns, Cities and places named Brighton: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_(disambiguation) > And there are two in New York State, in two different counties. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From ssmyth@psualum.com Fri Nov 1 22:00:14 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 19:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com><52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <1383357614.79936.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> On Friday, November 1, 2013 9:40 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: "Imagine: One state (New York) actually has THREE Brightons. I sure didn't know that! Really validates the idea of postal codes (Zip codes). I didn't find the locations of the two that don't abut Rochester, but the WikiPedia article may contain a map." And certainly far from the only state where this happens. Pennsylvania is notorious for this; there are multiple Hempfields, for instance. And many township names are used repeatedly in different counties (the Scots-Irish immigrants apparently all came from the same parts of the island). From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Nov 1 23:04:26 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 23:04:26 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <1383357614.79936.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com><52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> <1383357614.79936.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <52746BBA.9050601@attorneyross.com> On 11/1/2013 10:00 PM, Sean Smyth wrote: > On Friday, November 1, 2013 9:40 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > > "Imagine: One state (New York) actually has THREE Brightons. I sure didn't > know that! Really validates the idea of postal codes (Zip codes). I didn't > find the locations of the two that don't abut Rochester, but the WikiPedia > article may contain a map." > > And certainly far from the only state where this happens. Pennsylvania is notorious for this; there are multiple Hempfields, for instance. And many township names are used repeatedly in different counties (the Scots-Irish immigrants apparently all came from the same parts of the island). How did people address mail before Zip codes? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Fri Nov 1 21:13:31 2013 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:13:31 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Towns, Cities and places named Brighton: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_(disambiguation) On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > You guess correctly, sir! The Brighton here and the British community for > which it was named are hardly the world's (or even the US's) only > Brightons. > I have no idea how many Brightons there are in the US, but I'm pretty sure > that there is one near Denver and I think it is far from the only other > Brighton in the US. Someone on this list may know the US total and will > share it with us. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Joseph Ross" > To: > > > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 7:35 PM > Subject: Re: hats off to Scott Fybush > > > > On 11/1/2013 5:27 PM, Donna Halper wrote: >> >> A very nice newspaper article about Scott's expertise in radio history >>> and his love of radio towers: >>> >>> http://www.**democratandchronicle.com/**story/news/local/2013/10/26/** >>> brighton-man-is-an-authority-**of-the-airwaves/3267853/ >>> >> >> I guess there's a Brighton somewhere near Rochester? >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 >> 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> > From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Nov 1 22:30:29 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 22:30:29 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com><52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <527463C5.3010400@attorneyross.com> On 11/1/2013 9:39 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Imagine: One state (New York) actually has THREE Brightons. I sure didn't > know that! Really validates the idea of postal codes (Zip codes). I > didn't > find the locations of the two that don't abut Rochester, but the > WikiPedia > article may contain a map. I only saw two. I suppose Zip codes do come in handy.in situations like this. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Nov 1 23:32:41 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 23:32:41 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <52746BBA.9050601@attorneyross.com> References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> <1383357614.79936.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <52746BBA.9050601@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <21108.29273.965986.320082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > How did people address mail before Zip codes? With zones, if they lived in metropolitan areas big enough to have them, otherwise by delivery community (which might not be the same as the name of the town, as in pre-E911 days most rural people didn't have addresses, just route and box numbers, and each delivery community had its own set of routes). The part of the Back Bay that's now 02116 used to be "Boston 16". -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Nov 1 23:41:16 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 23:41:16 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <21108.29273.965986.320082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> <1383357614.79936.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <52746BBA.9050601@attorneyross.com> <21108.29273.965986.320082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <5274745C.4010100@attorneyross.com> On 11/1/2013 11:32 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > With zones, if they lived in metropolitan areas big enough to have > them, otherwise by delivery community (which might not be the same as > the name of the town, as in pre-E911 days most rural people didn't > have addresses, just route and box numbers, and each delivery > community had its own set of routes). The part of the Back Bay that's > now 02116 used to be "Boston 16". I remember zones, but not everyone used them. And some of these duplicate towns may not be places that would have them. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Sat Nov 2 00:22:42 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 00:22:42 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <5274745C.4010100@attorneyross.com> References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> <1383357614.79936.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <52746BBA.9050601@attorneyross.com> <21108.29273.965986.320082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <5274745C.4010100@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <21108.32274.714149.1304@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I remember zones, but not everyone used them. And some of these > duplicate towns may not be places that would have them. They would also not have been places that would have a local post office. -GAWollman From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Nov 1 23:47:10 2013 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 23:47:10 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <5274745C.4010100@attorneyross.com> References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> <1383357614.79936.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <52746BBA.9050601@attorneyross.com> <21108.29273.965986.320082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <5274745C.4010100@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <4E5ED86D-F2B8-4134-832C-E36B76EE5DF7@mac.com> On Nov 1, 2013, at 11:41 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > > I remember zones, but not everyone used them. And some of these duplicate towns may not be places that would have them. Sometimes an address would be Town, Long Island, NY to distinguish it from a similarly named town upstate. Then again to a Long Islander anything north of The Bronx was considered upstate. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Nov 2 00:52:06 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 00:52:06 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <21108.32274.714149.1304@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> <1383357614.79936.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <52746BBA.9050601@attorneyross.com> <21108.29273.965986.320082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <5274745C.4010100@attorneyross.com> <21108.32274.714149.1304@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <527484F6.3000808@attorneyross.com> On 11/2/2013 12:22 AM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> I remember zones, but not everyone used them. And some of these >> duplicate towns may not be places that would have them. > They would also not have been places that would have a local post > office. But if a letter is addressed to "Brighton, NY," and there is no such post office, how would the post office know where to deliver it? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Sat Nov 2 01:00:58 2013 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 01:00:58 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <527484F6.3000808@attorneyross.com> References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> <1383357614.79936.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <52746BBA.9050601@attorneyross.com> <21108.29273.965986.320082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <5274745C.4010100@attorneyross.com> <21108.32274.714149.1304@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <527484F6.3000808@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <5274870A.7080005@fybush.com> On 11/2/2013 12:52 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > But if a letter is addressed to "Brighton, NY," and there is no such > post office, how would the post office know where to deliver it? > Someone writing to my house in the pre-zip code era would have addressed it to "Rochester 18, N.Y." Someone writing to the Adirondack Brighton would have addressed it to "Paul Smiths, N.Y." It's much the same way that someone who lived in the town of Perinton, just east of Rochester, would have received their mail addressed to "Fairport, N.Y." (and later "Fairport NY 14450"), since the post office was in the village of Fairport, even if it also served the larger town of Perinton that surrounds (and includes) the village. This is further complicated in New York by the towns that surround villages of the same name (like Pittsford and Webster and Victor in the Rochester suburbs). To bring this back to some bare shred of broadcast relevancy, the FCC prefers to use villages instead of the surrounding towns as "communities of license" in upstate New York, and so there's a "Fairport" allocation but not a "Perinton" one, and the "Webster" station shows 70 dBu coverage over the village of Webster, not necessarily the larger surrounding town. (Confusingly, though, there's also a Brighton allocation, which is to the town. There's no village of Brighton. There once was - but the area that was the incorporated village of Brighton was absorbed into the city of Rochester in 1905, a few years before the state made annexation nearly impossible.) From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Nov 2 00:54:49 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 00:54:49 -0400 Subject: Odd spam Message-ID: <52748599.9010201@attorneyross.com> I just got a typical scam e-mail from "Barrister Patrick N. Patrick." I got a chuckle about this one because it reminded me of Melvin X. Melvin on the old WMEX. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From mward@iname.com Sat Nov 2 07:43:29 2013 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 07:43:29 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <5274589E.7010809@fybush.com> References: <5274589E.7010809@fybush.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > Not 1460 anymore: the site Bob remembers on Winton Road is now an office > park, and the current version of 1460 is a few miles to the southwest in > Henrietta. > And you've taken me to that site, both before and after (sigh). The old 1460 site is just a few blocks from your house, as I recall. As far as sending mail to Brighton, NY, I suspect it would be delivered fine if the sender used the proper ZIP code, no? I've been digging a bit to find Brighton Township, Ohio...which appears to be in southwest Lorain County (about 50 miles northwest of here)...and this Wikipedia map suggests it is - believe it or not - next to Rochester Township and village. (Though north of Rochester, instead of south.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Lorain_County_Ohio_With_Municipal_and_Township_Labels.PNG From scott@fybush.com Sat Nov 2 09:53:56 2013 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:53:56 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <527484F6.3000808@attorneyross.com> References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> <1383357614.79936.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <52746BBA.9050601@attorneyross.com> <21108.29273.965986.320082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <5274745C.4010100@attorneyross.com> <21108.32274.714149.1304@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <527484F6.3000808@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: On 11/2/2013 12:52 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > But if a letter is addressed to "Brighton, NY," and there is no such > post office, how would the post office know where to deliver it? > Someone writing to my house in the pre-zip code era would have addressed it to "Rochester 18, N.Y." Someone writing to the Adirondack Brighton would have addressed it to "Paul Smiths, N.Y." It's much the same way that someone who lived in the town of Perinton, just east of Rochester, would have received their mail addressed to "Fairport, N.Y." (and later "Fairport NY 14450"), since the post office was in the village of Fairport, even if it also served the larger town of Perinton that surrounds (and includes) the village. This is further complicated in New York by the towns that surround villages of the same name (like Pittsford and Webster and Victor in the Rochester suburbs). To bring this back to some bare shred of broadcast relevancy, the FCC prefers to use villages instead of the surrounding towns as "communities of license" in upstate New York, and so there's a "Fairport" allocation but not a "Perinton" one, and the "Webster" station shows 70 dBu coverage over the village of Webster, not necessarily the larger surrounding town. (Confusingly, though, there's also a Brighton allocation, which is to the town. There's no village of Brighton. There once was - but the area that was the incorporated village of Brighton was From Jibguy@aol.com Sat Nov 2 10:35:39 2013 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 10:35:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush Message-ID: <28f09.4efdc30e.3fa667bb@aol.com> In a message dated 11/1/2013 9:45:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, scott@fybush.com writes: And I have to defend the city of Rochester here: as with any older city (Boston very much included) it has its decaying parts and dangerous neighborhoods. But it also has some wonderful, vibrant areas that are a lot more exciting now than they were when I was growing up here. Boston's center (gov't center to The Common, to Back Bay & more) is alive and well. Rochester, inside The Inner Loop... is .... uh.... pretty bad. Outside the Inner Loop does, as Scott says, has some great neighborhoods.... Park Avenue to East Avenue, etc. but RADIO must be more exciting there now! When I lived in the Rochester area (the City, Henrietta [at RIT]. Brighton, North Chili, Brockport), there were only 13 radio stations; 6 AM's and 7 FM's + 1 AM in Brockport which started broadcasting on April Fools Day 1970.. Now there's twice as many, or more. What was really exciting was WSAY's site... Overgrown, with a ground system above ground on utility-type poles all around the 4 towers... had a certain mysticism about it. ---jibguy From rbello@belloassoc.com Sat Nov 2 12:54:24 2013 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:54:24 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> References: <52741CBB.5030400@donnahalper.com> <52743AC1.5070600@attorneyross.com> <44C0617640EC47A09B03CC430B39231D@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: and 2 Rochesters.................. 1 a city and another a town On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Imagine: One state (New York) actually has THREE Brightons. I sure didn't > know that! Really validates the idea of postal codes (Zip codes). I didn't > find the locations of the two that don't abut Rochester, but the WikiPedia > article may contain a map. > > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." < > walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> > To: "Dan.Strassberg" > Cc: "A Joseph Ross" ; "Boston Radio Group" > > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 9:13 PM > > Subject: Re: hats off to Scott Fybush > > > Towns, Cities and places named Brighton: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_(disambiguation) >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Dan.Strassberg >> wrote: >> >> You guess correctly, sir! The Brighton here and the British community for >>> which it was named are hardly the world's (or even the US's) only >>> Brightons. >>> I have no idea how many Brightons there are in the US, but I'm pretty >>> sure >>> that there is one near Denver and I think it is far from the only other >>> Brighton in the US. Someone on this list may know the US total and will >>> share it with us. >>> >>> ----- >>> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >>> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Joseph Ross" >> > >>> To: >>> >> interest@lists.BostonRadio.org> >>> > >>> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 7:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: hats off to Scott Fybush >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/1/2013 5:27 PM, Donna Halper wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> A very nice newspaper article about Scott's expertise in radio history >>>> >>>>> and his love of radio towers: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.**democratandchronicle.com/**story/news/local/2013/10/26/** >>>>> brighton-man-is-an-authority-**of-the-airwaves/3267853/>>>> ://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/local/2013/10/ >>>>> 26/brighton-man-is-an-authority-of-the-airwaves/3267853/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I guess there's a Brighton somewhere near Rochester? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 >>>> 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Nov 3 00:35:10 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 00:35:10 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <28f09.4efdc30e.3fa667bb@aol.com> References: <28f09.4efdc30e.3fa667bb@aol.com> Message-ID: <5275D27E.7060609@attorneyross.com> On 11/2/2013 10:35 AM, Jibguy@aol.com wrote: > What was really exciting was WSAY's site... Overgrown, with a ground system > above ground on utility-type poles all around the 4 towers... had a > certain mysticism about it. Is it still that way now? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Sun Nov 3 00:42:12 2013 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 00:42:12 -0400 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <5275D27E.7060609@attorneyross.com> References: <28f09.4efdc30e.3fa667bb@aol.com> <5275D27E.7060609@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <5275D424.3010406@fybush.com> On 11/3/2013 12:35 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 11/2/2013 10:35 AM, Jibguy@aol.com wrote: > >> What was really exciting was WSAY's site... Overgrown, with a ground >> system >> above ground on utility-type poles all around the 4 towers... had a >> certain mysticism about it. > > Is it still that way now? > It's been cleaned up somewhat. The ground system is buried now, and the overgrowth has mostly been trimmed back. But the old studio/transmitter building has been just a transmitter building for close to 20 years now, and it's full of ghosts these days. s From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Nov 3 23:52:21 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 23:52:21 -0500 Subject: Jim Britt doing play by play in 1948 Message-ID: Here is the complete broadcast as heard on Mutual of the 1948 World Series Game 1 from Braves Field with Jim Britt and Mel Allen doing the call. In the background you can hear Frank Fallon of WMEX on the PA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgWhoXQwZtg From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Nov 7 02:31:19 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 02:31:19 -0500 Subject: WMEX air check Message-ID: <527B41C7.90200@attorneyross.com> Well, it was interesting to listen to. I thought Ed Hider had been a bit more zany, both as Eddie Mitchell on WCOP and as Fenway. He was somewhat more subdued here. Perhaps he was told at some point to tone it down. The news broadcasts were also interesting. I've commented in the past that years ago even the teenage rock stations had stronger news coverage.than is the case now. I see that my memory was accurate. They devoted a surprisi9ng amount of time to a story about a Foreign Aid bill in Congress, with an explanation by Senator John Sparkman (Alabama or Mississippi, I think) on how a compromise between House and Senate versions was likely. They also had a surprisingly long story about the new British prime minister, Sir Alec Douglas-Home campaigning for a seat in the House of Commons. Another news story was about Republicans hoping to block Governor Peabody's proposed reorganization of the Department of Public Works (It passed, as I recall). All in all, an interesting air check, and I recorded it, so that I can listen again. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Nov 7 02:33:39 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 02:33:39 -0500 Subject: hats off to Scott Fybush In-Reply-To: <5275D424.3010406@fybush.com> References: <28f09.4efdc30e.3fa667bb@aol.com> <5275D27E.7060609@attorneyross.com> <5275D424.3010406@fybush.com> Message-ID: <527B4253.6070600@attorneyross.com> On this same topic thread, I was listening to WBUR this afternoon and heard Scott reporting for NPR from the U.S. Supreme Court on the issue of prayer before a town council meeting in Greece, New York. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From pbencurrier@hotmail.com Sat Nov 9 13:28:29 2013 From: pbencurrier@hotmail.com (Paul Currier) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2013 13:28:29 -0500 Subject: WMVY to return to the FM Band Message-ID: P. J. Finn, WMVY's program director, says his station could return to the FM dial in April. They are planning to pick up the 250W WMEX 88.7. The article is in the business section of today's Cape cod times. http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20131109/BIZ/311090314/-1/BIZ Paul Sandwich From ssmyth@psualum.com Sun Nov 10 03:29:52 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 00:29:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: WMVY to return to the FM Band In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1384072192.21455.YahooMailNeo@web142703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> On Saturday, November 9, 2013 2:04 PM, Paul Currier wrote: "P. J. Finn, WMVY's program director, says his station could return to the FM dial in April.? They are planning to pick up the 250W WMEX 88.7. The article is in the business section of today's Cape cod times." MVY Radio already has returned to FM, on a translator in Newport, R.I., that's fed by one of RIPR's HD channels. From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Nov 11 00:40:26 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 00:40:26 -0500 Subject: WMVY to return to the FM Band In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52806DCA.5050208@attorneyross.com> On 11/9/2013 1:28 PM, Paul Currier wrote: > P. J. Finn, WMVY's program director, says his station could return to > the FM dial in April. They are planning to pick up the 250W WMEX 88.7. > The article is in the business section of today's Cape cod times. > > http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20131109/BIZ/311090314/-1/BIZ > So if the WMEX callsign is going to be available again, I wonder which station will get it and what they'll do with it. For that matter, what was a noncomm on the Vinyard doing with that callsign? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From sids1045@aol.com Mon Nov 11 07:06:05 2013 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 07:06:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: WMVY to return to the FM Band In-Reply-To: <52806DCA.5050208@attorneyross.com> References: <52806DCA.5050208@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <8D0ACED8869102C-22B8-3AD8A@webmail-d182.sysops.aol.com> "what was a noncomm on the Vinyard doing with that callsign?" It was available at the time and they applied for it before anyone else. Call signs are not reserved for any particular type of broadcast station just because of prior use. From ssmyth@psualum.com Mon Nov 11 10:04:21 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 07:04:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: WMVY to return to the FM Band In-Reply-To: <52806DCA.5050208@attorneyross.com> References: <52806DCA.5050208@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <1384182261.57229.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:40 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: "For that matter, what was a noncomm on the Vinyard doing with that callsign?" A number of Dennis Jackson's stations have had the WMEX calls. IIRC he uses them as a sort of placeholder when possible. From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Nov 11 15:19:47 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 15:19:47 -0500 Subject: RIP George Capalbo Message-ID: <21121.15331.804661.425389@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> John Andrews asked me to pass along this note: > Garrett: > > I'm not currently subscribed to the Boston Radio Interest reflector, but > wanted to pass along that George J. Capalbo, former Chief Engineer of > WRKO, passed away on November 8. He was 86. > > Obit from the Worcester Telegram & Gazette: > http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/telegram/obituary.aspx?n=george-capalbo&pid=167936242&fhid=15217 > > John Andrews From pbencurrier@hotmail.com Mon Nov 11 19:23:35 2013 From: pbencurrier@hotmail.com (Paul Currier) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:23:35 -0500 Subject: WMVY to return to the FM Band In-Reply-To: <1384072192.21455.YahooMailNeo@web142703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1384072192.21455.YahooMailNeo@web142703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, but not a return as they've been there for a long time. 96.5 I think. Paul Sandwich On 11/10/2013 3:29 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > On Saturday, November 9, 2013 2:04 PM, Paul Currier wrote: > "P. J. Finn, WMVY's program director, says his station could return to > the FM dial in April. They are planning to pick up the 250W WMEX 88.7. > The article is in the business section of today's Cape cod times." > > MVY Radio already has returned to FM, on a translator in Newport, R.I., that's fed by one of RIPR's HD channels. > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Nov 12 01:54:15 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 01:54:15 -0500 Subject: WMVY to return to the FM Band In-Reply-To: <8D0ACED8869102C-22B8-3AD8A@webmail-d182.sysops.aol.com> References: <52806DCA.5050208@attorneyross.com> <8D0ACED8869102C-22B8-3AD8A@webmail-d182.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5281D097.3020503@attorneyross.com> On 11/11/2013 7:06 AM, Sid Schweiger wrote: > "what was a noncomm on the Vinyard doing with that callsign?" > It was available at the time and they applied for it before anyone > else. Call signs are not reserved for any particular type of > broadcast station just because of prior use. I realize that. But I can't figure out why they would want that callsign. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Nov 12 01:55:17 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 01:55:17 -0500 Subject: WMVY to return to the FM Band In-Reply-To: <1384182261.57229.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <52806DCA.5050208@attorneyross.com> <1384182261.57229.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5281D0D5.2070401@attorneyross.com> On 11/11/2013 10:04 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > A number of Dennis Jackson's stations have had the WMEX calls. IIRC he uses them as a sort of placeholder when possible. But why? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Tue Nov 12 10:44:54 2013 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:44:54 -0500 Subject: WMVY to return to the FM Band In-Reply-To: <5281D0D5.2070401@attorneyross.com> References: <52806DCA.5050208@attorneyross.com> <1384182261.57229.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5281D0D5.2070401@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <52824CF6.9010604@fybush.com> On 11/12/2013 1:55 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 11/11/2013 10:04 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > >> A number of Dennis Jackson's stations have had the WMEX calls. IIRC he >> uses them as a sort of placeholder when possible. > > But why? > Because Dennis is Dennis, and he loves radio history as much as we do, and given the choice between some random callsign and one with some history to it, he'll take the one with the history any day. s From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Nov 12 10:48:17 2013 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:48:17 -0500 Subject: WMVY to return to the FM Band In-Reply-To: <5281D0D5.2070401@attorneyross.com> References: <52806DCA.5050208@attorneyross.com> <1384182261.57229.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5281D0D5.2070401@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <7EDA6F7C-8D34-40B9-B9BD-4F5A2616BC39@comcast.net> Why not? Obviously he was a fan of the old WMEX, as when he had an oldies format and WMEX calls on 106.5 in Farmington, NH he even used some original jingles. Jeff Lehmann > On Nov 12, 2013, at 1:55 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > >> On 11/11/2013 10:04 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: >> >> A number of Dennis Jackson's stations have had the WMEX calls. IIRC he uses them as a sort of placeholder when possible. > > But why? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Tue Nov 12 08:46:43 2013 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 08:46:43 -0500 Subject: WMVY to return to the FM Band In-Reply-To: <5281D0D5.2070401@attorneyross.com> References: <52806DCA.5050208@attorneyross.com> <1384182261.57229.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5281D0D5.2070401@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Because he can... Dennis' 106.5 Farmington/Rochester, NH was WMEX before he sold it and played OLDIES. Paul On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:55 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 11/11/2013 10:04 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > > A number of Dennis Jackson's stations have had the WMEX calls. IIRC he >> uses them as a sort of placeholder when possible. >> > > But why? > > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > > From billohno@gmail.com Tue Nov 12 14:43:51 2013 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:43:51 -0500 Subject: Imus in the Morning Message-ID: <528284F7.8050205@gmail.com> Reading Scott's NERW this week - http://www.fybush.com/nerw-20131111/ - So, Don Imus is now relegated to flea-power 1110 in Salem, NH. It reeks of a sad irony since Imus used to mock stations "down there with the police calls". I can't even hear him here in the southern Champlain Valley (about an hour south of Burlington and north of Rutland). His first three hours are heard only locally to Greater Montpelier on WSNO (1450 Barre) in central VT. Makes you wonder why he didn't pack it in and head out to the fishing hole with Charles McCord back in 2011. Bill O'Neill From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Tue Nov 12 21:44:14 2013 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:44:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Imus in the Morning In-Reply-To: <528284F7.8050205@gmail.com> References: <528284F7.8050205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1384310654.48590.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> >>>So, Don Imus is now relegated to flea-power 1110 in Salem, NH. Aren't they 5,000 watts?? That doesn't sound flea-powered to me.?? ;-) ________________________________ From: Bill O'Neill To: Boston Radio Group Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:43 PM Subject: Imus in the Morning Reading Scott's NERW this week - http://www.fybush.com/nerw-20131111/ - So, Don Imus is now relegated to flea-power 1110 in Salem, NH.? It reeks of a sad irony since Imus used to mock stations "down there with the police calls". I can't even hear him here in the southern Champlain Valley (about an hour south of Burlington and north of Rutland). His first three hours are heard only locally to Greater Montpelier on WSNO (1450 Barre) in central VT.? Makes you wonder why he didn't pack it in and head out to the fishing hole with Charles McCord back in 2011. Bill O'Neill From rbello@belloassoc.com Tue Nov 12 22:59:08 2013 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 22:59:08 -0500 Subject: Imus in the Morning In-Reply-To: <1384310654.48590.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <528284F7.8050205@gmail.com> <1384310654.48590.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: But they are a daytimer only On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:44 PM, D. A. wrote: > > > >>>So, Don Imus is now relegated to flea-power 1110 in Salem, NH. > > > Aren't they 5,000 watts? That doesn't sound flea-powered to me. > > ;-) > > > From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Nov 12 22:56:41 2013 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 22:56:41 -0500 Subject: Imus in the Morning In-Reply-To: <1384310654.48590.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <528284F7.8050205@gmail.com> <1384310654.48590.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <59F73125-8566-44E1-BF53-A1317F87D2A8@mac.com> Looking this up on radio locator still points to their old 800 frequency. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse the brevity. > On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:44 PM, "D. A." wrote: > > > >>>> So, Don Imus is now relegated to flea-power 1110 in Salem, NH. > > > Aren't they 5,000 watts? That doesn't sound flea-powered to me. > > ;-) > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bill O'Neill > To: Boston Radio Group > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:43 PM > Subject: Imus in the Morning > > > Reading Scott's NERW this week - http://www.fybush.com/nerw-20131111/ - > So, Don Imus is now relegated to flea-power 1110 in Salem, NH. It reeks > of a sad irony since Imus used to mock stations "down there with the > police calls". > > I can't even hear him here in the southern Champlain Valley (about an > hour south of Burlington and north of Rutland). His first three hours > are heard only locally to Greater Montpelier on WSNO (1450 Barre) in > central VT. Makes you wonder why he didn't pack it in and head out to > the fishing hole with Charles McCord back in 2011. > > Bill O'Neill From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Nov 13 00:48:45 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 00:48:45 -0500 Subject: WMVY to return to the FM Band In-Reply-To: References: <52806DCA.5050208@attorneyross.com> <1384182261.57229.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5281D0D5.2070401@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <528312BD.9010905@attorneyross.com> On 11/12/2013 8:46 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > Because he can... Dennis' 106.5 Farmington/Rochester, NH was WMEX > before he sold it and played OLDIES. I can understand why he might want the WMEX call if he's playing oldies, though the farther it gets from Boston, the less sense it makes. I can also understand why 1060 in Natick a few years back used the WMEX call when it had Jerry Williams anchoring a talk-show format. But I can't understand why a random station, especially a public station, would have the WMEX call. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Nov 13 01:20:34 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 01:20:34 -0500 Subject: WMVY to return to the FM Band In-Reply-To: <528312BD.9010905@attorneyross.com> References: <52806DCA.5050208@attorneyross.com> <1384182261.57229.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5281D0D5.2070401@attorneyross.com> <528312BD.9010905@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <21123.6706.88127.957936@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > when it had Jerry Williams anchoring a talk-show format. But I can't > understand why a random station, especially a public station, would have > the WMEX call. Because the guy who owns the station *likes it*. He doesn't need any more reason than that. -GAWollman From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Nov 13 02:30:50 2013 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 02:30:50 -0500 Subject: Imus in the Morning In-Reply-To: <59F73125-8566-44E1-BF53-A1317F87D2A8@mac.com> References: <528284F7.8050205@gmail.com> <1384310654.48590.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <59F73125-8566-44E1-BF53-A1317F87D2A8@mac.com> Message-ID: <5DEBA692-3D97-4D06-917F-159D99A07F01@mac.com> I looked up WCCM at the suggestion of someone from the list. It appears Radio-Locator hasn't yet picked up on that the two swapped calls several years ago. Anyway, 1110 is listed as 5000 watts daytime, but with a pattern that is mostly to the north. It's also repeated on 102.9 HD2 for both people in the Lawrence area wha have HD radios. Actually I receive 102.9 quite we'll in North Salem, NH, but I'm not typical since I have an FM beam antenna on a rotator. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse the brevity. > On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:56 PM, Larry Weil wrote: > > Looking this up on radio locator still points to their old 800 frequency. > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > > Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse the brevity. > >> On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:44 PM, "D. A." wrote: >> >> >> >>>>> So, Don Imus is now relegated to flea-power 1110 in Salem, NH. >> >> >> Aren't they 5,000 watts? That doesn't sound flea-powered to me. >> >> ;-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Bill O'Neill >> To: Boston Radio Group >> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:43 PM >> Subject: Imus in the Morning >> >> >> Reading Scott's NERW this week - http://www.fybush.com/nerw-20131111/ - >> So, Don Imus is now relegated to flea-power 1110 in Salem, NH. It reeks >> of a sad irony since Imus used to mock stations "down there with the >> police calls". >> >> I can't even hear him here in the southern Champlain Valley (about an >> hour south of Burlington and north of Rutland). His first three hours >> are heard only locally to Greater Montpelier on WSNO (1450 Barre) in >> central VT. Makes you wonder why he didn't pack it in and head out to >> the fishing hole with Charles McCord back in 2011. >> >> Bill O'Neill From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Nov 13 01:37:23 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 01:37:23 -0500 Subject: WMVY to return to the FM Band In-Reply-To: <21123.6706.88127.957936@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <52806DCA.5050208@attorneyross.com> <1384182261.57229.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5281D0D5.2070401@attorneyross.com> <528312BD.9010905@attorneyross.com> <21123.6706.88127.957936@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <52831E23.3050208@attorneyross.com> On 11/13/2013 1:20 AM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> when it had Jerry Williams anchoring a talk-show format. But I can't >> understand why a random station, especially a public station, would have >> the WMEX call. > Because the guy who owns the station *likes it*. He doesn't need any > more reason than that. OK, I guess not everything has to have a business reason. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From lglavin@mail.com Wed Nov 13 15:59:30 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:59:30 -0500 Subject: Imus in the Morning Message-ID: <20131113205930.146740@gmx.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: D. A. >Sent: 11/12/13 09:44 PM >To: Bill O'Neill, Boston Radio Group >Subject: Re: Imus in the Morning >>>So, Don Imus is now relegated to flea-power 1110 in Salem, NH. >Aren't they 5,000 watts? That doesn't sound flea-powered to me. >;-) .............. If you check WCCM-AM's record at fcc.gov, you'll seethat the four towers are 53 degrees, even shorter than the 199-foot towers of the Oak Hill Parktryptich. If I recall correctly, Scott once said on "Let's Talk About Radio" that the WCCM-AM 1110towers were the only ones anywhere near Boston that he had not seen or photographed. Even now,with all the trees bare, you can't see the towers on any road that goes by them. Once, after awindstorm causing WCCM-AM to be off the air for a few days, I drove over to the site to see if any or all of them had blown down. There's a footpath going by a house before you getthere, and somebody came out of a house to intercept me. Several years prior, someone cut theguy wires of one tower or more, and since then he became a vigilante to prevent people fromtrespassing on the transmitter site property, although it seemed that the path WASN'T onthe property. I told him that since WCCM had been off-the-air for several days, I was just checking to see if the towers were still up. He let me pass but watched warily. I understand that there were watchmen near Jerimoth Hill in Foster, RI to block the way if anybody wanted to hike to the top, even years after FM 101.5 moved to Johnston. So anyway, WCCM's signal yields a little bit less than it would be if the station had a moreefficient tantenna system. From time to time, WCCM had been cited as a station providinglocal service, but recently, they take Fox News radio at the top of the hour followed immediatelyby "Imus in the Morning" from 6:00 am until 9:00 (30 minutes before authorized sign-on inNovember) with the first local content broadcast at 9:05 am. From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Nov 14 17:50:09 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 17:50:09 -0500 Subject: Glenn Ordway signs with SirusXM Message-ID: http://www.boston.com/sports/touching_all_the_bases/2013/11/glenn_ordway_to_join_sirius_xm_as_weekend_host_beginning_nov.html Good landing spot for Glenn. Let's face it there were zero options in Boston for radio for him. http://www.siriusxm.com/maddogsportsradio From pbencurrier@hotmail.com Sat Nov 16 17:31:29 2013 From: pbencurrier@hotmail.com (Paul Currier) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 17:31:29 -0500 Subject: Morgan White Jr. & Bradley Jay In-Reply-To: <20131113205930.146740@gmx.com> References: <20131113205930.146740@gmx.com> Message-ID: This morning, while filling in for Jordan Rich, Morgan announced that he has his own slot on BZ - 10-MIdnight Saturdays. Amazing! And great for Mr. Fill-in! Does anyone have even a clue or a guess what BZ may be thinking about for overnights? A week or so ago a caller mentioned to Bradley that it looked like he had secured the midnight shift. After a brief, awkward pause, Bradley said that he had no comment on that. Paul From pbencurrier@hotmail.com Sat Nov 16 18:33:52 2013 From: pbencurrier@hotmail.com (Paul Currier) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 18:33:52 -0500 Subject: WKFY In-Reply-To: References: <20131113205930.146740@gmx.com> Message-ID: During this week I heard on WKFY ("The Memories of your Life") that Ron Robin (radio legend, etc.) was joining WKFY at night. Most Interesting as he has (or maybe had?) his own station in Truro and has been (or maybe had been?) on Saturday mornings from 8-11. I was listening tonight at 6 and sure enough on came Ron's voice - very briefly before the recording was cut off. Wrong evening, I guess. I'll catch it on a weekday at 6. Paul > From ssmyth@psualum.com Sun Nov 17 07:05:05 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 04:05:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Morgan White Jr. & Bradley Jay In-Reply-To: References: <20131113205930.146740@gmx.com> Message-ID: <1384689905.67704.YahooMailNeo@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Paul Currier wrote: "This morning, while filling in for Jordan Rich, Morgan announced that he has his own slot on BZ - 10-MIdnight Saturdays.? Amazing! And great for Mr. Fill-in!" Does this replace an infomercial block? If so, good news. On Saturday, November 16, 2013 6:07 PM, Paul Currier wrote: This morning, while filling in for Jordan Rich, Morgan announced that he has his own slot on BZ - 10-MIdnight Saturdays.? Amazing! And great for Mr. Fill-in! Does anyone have even a clue or a guess what BZ may be thinking about for overnights?? A week or so ago a caller mentioned to Bradley that it looked like he had secured the midnight shift. After a brief, awkward pause, Bradley said that he had no comment on that. Paul From ssmyth@psualum.com Sun Nov 17 11:39:35 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:39:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Celtics on 103.7 Message-ID: <1384706375.62461.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I scanned the dial on the drive into work yesterday and, lo and behold, I heard Celtics basketball on 103.7. Prior to this year, that would not have been unusual, but this year the flagship rights went from Entercom to CBS. And 103.7 didn't even make any attempt to cover up the Sports Hub tags on the broadcast. So either CBS is leasing 103.7 or Entercom is on the network willingly on nights when 103.7 has no other programming. I hear the Celtics aren't a big radio moneymaker, so I'd guess it's the former -- and even though cash is cash, still surprised Entercom would lease out what amounts to a south suburban Boston rimshotter to one of its rivals. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Nov 17 13:40:22 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:40:22 -0500 Subject: Morgan White Jr. & Bradley Jay References: <20131113205930.146740@gmx.com> Message-ID: <5DC0CBB6B60F47A8A9B2D2A16F4F8BFB@SatU205S5044> One of the best indications that Bradley does NOT have a permanent overnight slot five nights a week on WBZ is that a certain poster (who is not on this list, AFAIK) has repeatedly posted elsewhere that Bradley HAS the job. This afore-mentioned poster appears to love making predictions about Boston radio and never seems to be deterred by his long, and still growing, string of dead-wrong predictions. Also his postings always seem totally serious, which makes them even better laugh material than they would be if he used a lighter touch. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Currier" To: Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Morgan White Jr. & Bradley Jay > This morning, while filling in for Jordan Rich, Morgan announced that he > has his own slot on BZ - 10-MIdnight Saturdays. Amazing! And great for > Mr. Fill-in! > > Does anyone have even a clue or a guess what BZ may be thinking about for > overnights? A week or so ago a caller mentioned to Bradley that it looked > like he had secured the midnight shift. After a brief, awkward pause, > Bradley said that he had no comment on that. > > Paul From mward@iname.com Sun Nov 17 11:33:16 2013 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 11:33:16 -0500 Subject: Morgan White Jr. & Bradley Jay In-Reply-To: <1384689905.67704.YahooMailNeo@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <20131113205930.146740@gmx.com> <1384689905.67704.YahooMailNeo@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: "The Morgan Show" is now officially on the WBZ online schedule, Saturdays from 10 PM to midnight. I don't remember for sure, but I believe there was an infomercial in that time slot before. On Nov 17, 2013 8:00 AM, "Sean Smyth" wrote: > Paul Currier wrote: "This morning, while filling in for Jordan Rich, > Morgan announced that he has his own slot on BZ - 10-MIdnight Saturdays. > Amazing! And great for Mr. Fill-in!" > > Does this replace an infomercial block? If so, good news. > > > On Saturday, November 16, 2013 6:07 PM, Paul Currier < > pbencurrier@hotmail.com> wrote: > > This morning, while filling in for Jordan Rich, Morgan announced that he > has his own slot on BZ - 10-MIdnight Saturdays. Amazing! And great for > Mr. Fill-in! > > Does anyone have even a clue or a guess what BZ may be thinking about > for overnights? A week or so ago a caller mentioned to Bradley that it > looked like he had secured the midnight shift. After a brief, awkward > pause, Bradley said that he had no comment on that. > > Paul > From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Nov 17 20:14:13 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 20:14:13 -0500 Subject: Celtics on 103.7 In-Reply-To: <1384706375.62461.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1384706375.62461.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It appears all the WEEI network stations are picking up the Celtics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Celtics_Radio_Network On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > I scanned the dial on the drive into work yesterday and, lo and behold, I > heard Celtics basketball on 103.7. Prior to this year, that would not have > been unusual, but this year the flagship rights went from Entercom to CBS. > And 103.7 didn't even make any attempt to cover up the Sports Hub tags on > the broadcast. > > So either CBS is leasing 103.7 or Entercom is on the network willingly on > nights when 103.7 has no other programming. I hear the Celtics aren't a big > radio moneymaker, so I'd guess it's the former -- and even though cash is > cash, still surprised Entercom would lease out what amounts to a south > suburban Boston rimshotter to one of its rivals. > From pbencurrier@hotmail.com Mon Nov 18 14:22:33 2013 From: pbencurrier@hotmail.com (Paul Currier) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 14:22:33 -0500 Subject: Morgan White Jr. & Bradley Jay In-Reply-To: <5DC0CBB6B60F47A8A9B2D2A16F4F8BFB@SatU205S5044> References: <20131113205930.146740@gmx.com> <5DC0CBB6B60F47A8A9B2D2A16F4F8BFB@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: Also, the promo spots are still generic. Paul On 11/17/2013 1:40 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > One of the best indications that Bradley does NOT have a permanent > overnight > slot five nights a week on WBZ is that a certain poster (who is not on > this > list, AFAIK) has repeatedly posted elsewhere that Bradley HAS the job. > This > afore-mentioned poster appears to love making predictions about Boston > radio > and never seems to be deterred by his long, and still growing, string of > dead-wrong predictions. Also his postings always seem totally serious, > which > makes them even better laugh material than they would be if he used a > lighter touch. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Currier" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: Morgan White Jr. & Bradley Jay > > >> This morning, while filling in for Jordan Rich, Morgan announced that he >> has his own slot on BZ - 10-MIdnight Saturdays. Amazing! And great for >> Mr. Fill-in! >> >> Does anyone have even a clue or a guess what BZ may be thinking about >> for >> overnights? A week or so ago a caller mentioned to Bradley that it >> looked >> like he had secured the midnight shift. After a brief, awkward pause, >> Bradley said that he had no comment on that. >> >> Paul > > > From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Nov 22 15:31:51 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:31:51 -0500 Subject: RIP William H Hahn, Jr. Message-ID: http://www.currentobituary.com/Memory.aspx?Memory_ObitdID=133720 Bill Hahn was one of the few bright lights in the history of WNAC-TV From markwa1ion@aol.com Fri Nov 22 19:58:03 2013 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 19:58:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago Message-ID: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> With the current media coverage (some would say 'feeding frenzy') about the JFK assassination 50 years ago, I thought I'd look back to that period in terms of metro-Boston AM radio stations. I was 14 at the time, a freshman at Arlington High School and, as noted at "http://swling.com/blog/2013/11/listener-post-mark-connelly/", was already seriously dug into radio and electronics from both the aspect as entertainment medium and scientific hobby. I invite historians among you (Donna Halper, Dan Strassberg, et al.) to look over and critique the listing below for accuracy. I have not included stations from towns much beyond Route 128 so Lowell, Brockton, etc. aren't included. Mark Connelly South Yarmouth, MA ----- Metro-Boston AM Radio 1963 WEEI - 590 talk, CBS news, drama shows such as "Yours Truly Johnny Dollar" and "Suspense" 5 kW day and night, two-tower DA Medford, MA same as present WEZE WNAC - 680 talk, variety, Yankee Network news, Texaco Metropolitan Opera broadcast on Saturday afternoon, affiliated with TV Channel 7 50 kW day and night, three-tower DA Burlington, MA same as present WRKO WTAO - 740 middle-of-the-road music, local news 250 watts day, one-tower ND Cambridge, MA same as present WJIB (which has added 5 watt night operation) WHDH - 850 middle-of-the-road music (famous DJ's include Jess Cain and Bob Clayton), sports (Red Sox, Celtics), news-talk, affiliated with TV Channel 5 50 kW day and night, three-tower DA Needham, MA same as present WEEI WORL - 950 variety, talk, middle-of-the-road music, Mutual network with Paul Harvey at noon 5 kW watts day, one-tower ND Saugus, MA same as present WROL (which has added 90 watt night operation) WBZ - 1030 Top 40 music (famous DJ's include Carl DeSuze, Dave Maynard, Jay Dunn, Jefferson Kaye, Bruce Bradley, Dick Summer), talk (Bob Kennedy Contact), high-grade news operation, affiliated with TV Channel 4 50 kW day and night, two-tower DA Hull, MA same as present WILD - 1090 black R&B, gospel, ethnic programs (including Italian Hour) / religion weekends 1 kW day, one-tower ND Medford, MA one mile north of present site which is now co-located with 1430. Station now runs 5 kW, still day only. WCOP - 1150 light middle-of-the-road music (had quit Top 40 in 1962) 5 kW day and night, three-tower DA Lexington, MA same as present WWDJ WESX - 1230 variety, talk, news 1 kW day, 250 watts night, one-tower ND Marblehead, MA about 5 miles northeast of present Lynn site which is now co-located with 1360. WEZE - 1260 easy-listening Muzak and vocals, NBC news and talk including weekend "Monitor" 5 kW day and night, three-tower DA Milton-Quincy line, MA same as present WMKI WJDA - 1300 local talk and news (famous Slim Pickins weather), light music 1 kW day, one-tower ND Quincy, MA same as present (low power night operation has since been added) WCRB - 1330 classical music ("Concert Radio Boston") 5 kW day and night, three-tower DA Waltham, MA near Brandeis U., about 5 miles north of present WRCA Newton site which is now co-located with 1600. WLYN - 1360 local talk and news, light music 1 kW day, one-tower ND Lynn, MA same as present (low power night operation has since been added and 1230 is now co-located at the site near the G.E. River Works) WHIL - 1430 light music, country for a while (had quit Top 40 in 1962), Suffolk Downs horse racing 1 kW day, one-tower ND Medford-Everett line, MA same location as present WKOX - 1430 though current set-up is 5 kW day / 1 kW night with two-tower DA and co-located 1090. WMEX - 1510 Top 40 music (famous DJ's include Melvin X, Arnie Ginsberg), talk (Jerry Williams) 5 kW day and night, three-tower DA Quincy, MA about half a mile east of then/now 1260 site. Present WUFC - 1510 site in Waltham, MA (about 12 miles NW) got started around 1981 when 1510 went to 50 kW day and night. WBOS - 1600 Ethnic programs including Kamelakis Hour (Greek), Kenny Mayer Sunday night comedy show 5 kW day and night, two-tower DA Newton, MA. The Sawmill Road site is still used but with a different tower configuration, more power, and co-location of 1200 and 1330. From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Nov 22 21:35:17 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 21:35:17 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago References: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8D68503691994B2A973752E41E99F4A1@SatU205S5044> Couple of errors popped out: In 1963, WNAC 680 was DA-1; it has been DA-2 for many years but, AFAIK, not all the way back in 1963. In 1963, WMEX ran 5 kW DA-1 from a two-tower array in Quincy (no longer in use by any station). 50-kW-D and the third tower in Quincy didn't come along until the end of the '60s or maybe the beginning of the '70s. And I suppose you didn't mention that WCRB 1330 is now co-located with 1200 as well as 1600 because you didn't mention 1200 in your list. BUT 1200 should have been listed--as a 1 kW daytimer on 1190, WKOX, licensed to Framingham and transmitting from a single tower at what is now the two-tower WSRO-650 site. BTW, among all Boston-area AMs, does the 1190 (and later 1200, 1060, and 650) Mt Wayte site hold the record for the largest number of tower collapses? (Collapses don't include towers that were intentionally razed.)There are other contenders for those honors; 1430 being one. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Connelly" To: Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:58 PM Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago > With the current media coverage (some would say 'feeding frenzy') about > the JFK assassination 50 years ago, I thought I'd look back to that period > in terms of metro-Boston AM radio stations. I was 14 at the time, a > freshman at Arlington High School and, as noted at > "http://swling.com/blog/2013/11/listener-post-mark-connelly/", was already > seriously dug into radio and electronics from both the aspect as > entertainment medium and scientific hobby. > > I invite historians among you (Donna Halper, Dan Strassberg, et al.) to > look over and critique the listing below for accuracy. I have not > included stations from towns much beyond Route 128 so Lowell, Brockton, > etc. aren't included. > > Mark Connelly > South Yarmouth, MA > > ----- > > > WNAC - 680 > talk, variety, Yankee Network news, Texaco Metropolitan Opera broadcast on > Saturday afternoon, affiliated with TV Channel 7 > 50 kW day and night, three-tower DA Burlington, MA same as present WRKO > > WCRB - 1330 > classical music ("Concert Radio Boston") > 5 kW day and night, three-tower DA Waltham, MA near Brandeis U., about 5 > miles north of present WRCA Newton site which is now co-located with 1600. > > WMEX - 1510 > Top 40 music (famous DJ's include Melvin X, Arnie Ginsberg), talk (Jerry > Williams) > 5 kW day and night, three-tower DA Quincy, MA about half a mile east of > then/now 1260 site. Present WUFC - 1510 site in Waltham, MA (about 12 > miles NW) got started around 1981 when 1510 went to 50 kW day and night. > From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Nov 22 22:34:25 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 22:34:25 -0500 Subject: 69 LPFM applications for Mass. in the latest filing window Message-ID: <21136.8769.165551.995595@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Here's the list: applicant | freq | comm_city ------------------------------------------+-------+---------------- TOWN OF ACTON, MASSACHUSETTS | 94.9 | ACTON HAMPSHIRE ARTS CON | 103.1 | AMHERST ATHOL ORANGE COMMUNITY TELEVISION, INC. | 105.9 | ATHOL ATTLEBORO ACCESS CABLE SYSTEM INC. | 101.1 | ATTLEBORO LASELL COLLEGE RADIO | 102.9 | AUBURNDALE DWIGHT CHAPEL INC. | 97.9 | BELCHERTOWN BOSTON HISPANIC COMMUNITY RADIO | 94.9 | BOSTON RENAISSANCE CHINESE CULTURAL ASSOCIATION | 94.9 | BOSTON CITY OF BOSTON | 102.9 | BOSTON MASSASOIT COMMUNITY COLLEGE | 96.5 | BROCKTON RANDOLPH CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY RADIO, INC. | 96.5 | BROCKTON RAHAB, INC. | 102.9 | BROCKTON A.P.P.L.E. SEED, INC. | 98.1 | BROOKFIELD CHELSEA PUBLIC SCHOOLS | 94.9 | CHELSEA CHURCH OF NEW COVENANT | 98.7 | CHICOPEE ST. JEROME PARISH HOLYOKE EDUCATIONAL RA | 102.5 | CHICOPEE FAITH TABERNACLE CHURCH OF JESUS- CHRIST | 94.9 | DORCHESTER GLOBAL MINISTRIES CHRISTIAN CHURCH | 102.9 | DORCHESTER GLOBAL MINISTRIES CHRISTIAN CHURCH | 102.9 | DORCHESTER BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS | 94.9 | EAST BOSTON WINTHROP ART ASSOCIATION | 94.9 | EAST BOSTON ZUMIX, INC. | 94.9 | EAST BOSTON CAPE COD BUS FOR LIFE, INC. | 102.3 | EAST FALMOUTH EASTON COMMUNITY ACCESS TELEVISION INC. | 96.5 | EASTON JASON CLEAVES | 88.1 | FALL RIVER MELISSA CLEAVES | 88.1 | FALL RIVER ST. STEPHEN PARISH FRAMINGHAM EDUCATIONA | 96.5 | FRAMINGHAM FRANKLIN COMMUNITY CABLE ACCESS, INC. | 102.9 | FRANKLIN HIGHLAND ARTS CLUB | 103.1 | GOSHEN PUBLIC MEDIA OF NEW ENGLAND, INC. | 98.1 | HAVERHILL WORD OF LIFE CHURCH OF GOD | 102.5 | HOLYOKE THREEFOLD MINISTRY | 96.3 | HUDSON WHAB FOR BB INC | 104.7 | HUNTINGTON IPSWICH BAY BROADCASTING CORP. | 96.3 | IPSWICH ILUMINACION DIVINA INC | 92.1 | LAWRENCE ST. PATRICK PARISH LAWRENCE EDUCATIONAL | 97.9 | LAWRENCE CITY OF LEOMINSTER | 95.1 | LEOMINSTER ZEITGEIST GALLERY INC. | 94.9 | LOWELL IGLESIA CHRISTIANA TORRENTE DE CEDRON | 94.9 | LYNN CITY OF LYNN SCHOOL COMMITTEE | 96.5 | LYNN NORTHFIELD MOUNT HERMON SCHOOL | 106.7 | MOUNT HERMON TOWN OF NANTUCKET POLICE DEPARTMENT | 105.5 | NANTUCKET EVOLVEMENT MEDIA GROUP | 96.3 | NEWBURYPORT NEWBURYPORT COMMUNITY MEDIA CENTER | 96.3 | NEWBURYPORT NORTHERN BERKSHIRE COMMUNITY TELEVISION | 107.1 | NORTH ADAMS WHEATON COLLEGE | 96.5 | NORTON HILLTOWN COMMUNITY CHURCH | 99.7 | NORWICH HILL M&M COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INC OAK BLUFF | 105.5 | OAK BLUFF QUINCY TELECOMMUNICATIONS CORPORATION | 91.3 | QUINCY GOOD NEIGHBOR STATION INC. | 94.9 | SALISBURY CHRISTOPHER W MORIARTY | 94.9 | SOMERVILLE ABOVE THE RIM INC | 98.7 | SPRINGFIELD CATHOLIC COMMUNICATIONS CORPORATION | 101.7 | SPRINGFIELD MEDIA PRESERVATION FOUNDATION | 101.7 | SPRINGFIELD WILFREDO HERNANDEZ | 101.7 | SPRINGFIELD CATOLICASPRINGFIELD.COM | 102.5 | SPRINGFIELD TEMPLETON BIBLICAL EDUCATIONAL SOCIETY, | 102.9 | TEMPLETON MVPBS | 105.5 | VINEYARD HAVEN ST THOMAS AQUINAS SCHOOL | 97.7 | WARREN SACRED HEART PARISH WEBSTER EDUCATIONAL | 97.9 | WEBSTER QUABOAG HILLS PUBLIC RADIO, INC. | 102.5 | WESTFIELD HILLTOWN CHRISTMAS STOCKING | 97.7 | WESTHAMPTON CITIZENS FOR A BETTER HILLTOWNS | 97.9 | WILLIAMSBURG WINCHESTER SCHOOL OF CHINESE CULTURE | 94.9 | WOBURN PRIDE PRODUCTIONS, INC. | 102.9 | WORCESTER WORCESTER STATE UNIVERSITY | 102.9 | WORCESTER CHURCH OF GOD PENTECOSTAL SALVATION ROCK | 106.1 | WORCESTER HILLTOWN COMMUNITY ARTS | 103.3 | WORTHINGTON CAPE COD CATHOLIC RADIO, INC. | 103.5 | YARMOUTH I believe Scott will have the analysis for all of the northeast in Monday's NERW. -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Nov 23 02:33:50 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 02:33:50 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <52905A5E.2080306@attorneyross.com> On 11/22/2013 7:58 PM, Mark Connelly wrote: > Metro-Boston AM Radio 1963 > > WEEI - 590 > talk, CBS news, drama shows such as "Yours Truly Johnny Dollar" and > "Suspense" > 5 kW day and night, two-tower DA Medford, MA same as present WEZE Johnny Dollar was the last of the old radio dramas, and it did its last show in September 1962. Suspense had already left the air by then. But WEEI did still carry Arthur Godfrey and, I believe, Art Linkletter's House Party. > WEZE - 1260 > easy-listening Muzak and vocals, NBC news and talk including weekend > "Monitor" > 5 kW day and night, three-tower DA Milton-Quincy line, MA same as > present WMKI WEZE had largely dropped Monitor by then, except for news. > WCRB - 1330 > classical music ("Concert Radio Boston") > 5 kW day and night, three-tower DA Waltham, MA near Brandeis U., about > 5 miles north of present WRCA Newton site which is now co-located with > 1600. WCRB used to cut its power at night and may also have had a different pattern. I learned about the night power cut when I called the station to try to understand why I couldn't hear them at night on AM. > WMEX - 1510 > Top 40 music (famous DJ's include Melvin X, Arnie Ginsberg), talk > (Jerry Williams) That was Melvin X. Melvin. And let's not forget Fenway and Dan Donovan. > WBOS - 1600 > Ethnic programs including Kamelakis Hour (Greek), Kenny Mayer Sunday > night comedy show > 5 kW day and night, two-tower DA Newton, MA. The Sawmill Road site is > still used but with a different tower configuration, more power, and > co-location of 1200 and 1330. By 1963, WBOS was running "Music Theater" during the daytime and late at night. This was a beautiful music format, almost as eclectic as present-day WJIB, but with fewer vocals. There was news on the hour, headlines on the half hour, and commercial breaks on the quarter-hour. They ran ethnic programs from about 7:00 to 10:00 PM and all day Sunday until about 10:00 PM. WBOS-FM ran Music Theater for the entire broadcast day, simulcasting when Music Theater was on AM. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Nov 23 03:43:58 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 03:43:58 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: <8D68503691994B2A973752E41E99F4A1@SatU205S5044> References: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> <8D68503691994B2A973752E41E99F4A1@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: Let's start with post WWII radio in Boston The major players were WBZ (1030), WNAC (1260) and WEEI (590) - by 1948 WHDH (850) also became a force. WNAC would buy WLAW (680) to enhance signal. Nobody gave a hoot about MetroWest in those days or for that matter the south shore. In the late 50's WMEX (1510) and WCOP (1150) went after the teen market with moderate success. WHDH had MOR locked up by the early 60's so WBZ went after the teens and blew WCOP out of the picture. WEZE became the most listened to station in town with 'beautiful music' and gave up NBC radio which WCOP grabbed. I would surmise that in November of 1963, WHDH was the king of Boston radio. On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Couple of errors popped out: In 1963, WNAC 680 was DA-1; it has been DA-2 > for many years but, AFAIK, not all the way back in 1963. In 1963, WMEX ran 5 > kW DA-1 from a two-tower array in Quincy (no longer in use by any station). > 50-kW-D and the third tower in Quincy didn't come along until the end of the > '60s or maybe the beginning of the '70s. And I suppose you didn't mention > that WCRB 1330 is now co-located with 1200 as well as 1600 because you > didn't mention 1200 in your list. BUT 1200 should have been listed--as a 1 > kW daytimer on 1190, WKOX, licensed to Framingham and transmitting from a > single tower at what is now the two-tower WSRO-650 site. > > BTW, among all Boston-area AMs, does the 1190 (and later 1200, 1060, and > 650) Mt Wayte site hold the record for the largest number of tower > collapses? (Collapses don't include towers that were intentionally > razed.)There are other contenders for those honors; 1430 being one. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Connelly" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:58 PM > Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago > > >> With the current media coverage (some would say 'feeding frenzy') about >> the JFK assassination 50 years ago, I thought I'd look back to that period >> in terms of metro-Boston AM radio stations. I was 14 at the time, a >> freshman at Arlington High School and, as noted at >> "http://swling.com/blog/2013/11/listener-post-mark-connelly/", was already >> seriously dug into radio and electronics from both the aspect as >> entertainment medium and scientific hobby. >> >> I invite historians among you (Donna Halper, Dan Strassberg, et al.) to >> look over and critique the listing below for accuracy. I have not >> included stations from towns much beyond Route 128 so Lowell, Brockton, >> etc. aren't included. >> >> Mark Connelly >> South Yarmouth, MA >> >> ----- >> >> >> WNAC - 680 >> talk, variety, Yankee Network news, Texaco Metropolitan Opera broadcast on >> Saturday afternoon, affiliated with TV Channel 7 >> 50 kW day and night, three-tower DA Burlington, MA same as present WRKO >> >> WCRB - 1330 >> classical music ("Concert Radio Boston") >> 5 kW day and night, three-tower DA Waltham, MA near Brandeis U., about 5 >> miles north of present WRCA Newton site which is now co-located with 1600. >> >> WMEX - 1510 >> Top 40 music (famous DJ's include Melvin X, Arnie Ginsberg), talk (Jerry >> Williams) >> 5 kW day and night, three-tower DA Quincy, MA about half a mile east of >> then/now 1260 site. Present WUFC - 1510 site in Waltham, MA (about 12 >> miles NW) got started around 1981 when 1510 went to 50 kW day and night. >> > From ssmyth@psualum.com Sat Nov 23 09:45:42 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 06:45:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: 69 LPFM applications for Mass. in the latest filing window In-Reply-To: <21136.8769.165551.995595@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1385217942.94663.YahooMailIosMobile@web142703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Interesting that the City of Boston applied for an LPFM license that probably couldn't be heard in much of the city. Also looks like a brother and sister, or husband and wife, both applied for 88.1 in Fall River.

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From Jibguy@aol.com Sat Nov 23 10:54:05 2013 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 10:54:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: 69 LPFM applications for Mass. in the latest filing window Message-ID: Why are there no applications for 106.1 ?? From wollman@bimajority.org Sat Nov 23 12:55:21 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 12:55:21 -0500 Subject: 69 LPFM applications for Mass. in the latest filing window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21136.60425.678671.149413@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < Why are there no applications for 106.1 ?? There's one in Worcester. 106.1 is precluded in eastern Mass. due to spacing restrictions with 106.1 Hyannis and the 106.3s in Woonsocket and Nashua. It is, however, available as a translator output frequency. See page 18 of -GAWollman From bob.bosra@demattia.net Sat Nov 23 12:53:10 2013 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 12:53:10 -0500 Subject: 69 LPFM applications for Mass. in the latest filing window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In fact, I see none of the pirates on the list. > From: Jibguy@aol.com > Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 10:54:05 -0500 > Subject: Re: 69 LPFM applications for Mass. in the latest filing window > To: bri@bostonradio.org > > Why are there no applications for 106.1 ?? From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Nov 23 13:11:26 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:11:26 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: <5290EDA5.2080100@donnahalper.com> References: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> <8D68503691994B2A973752E41E99F4A1@SatU205S5044> <5290EDA5.2080100@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: Donna - WJDA filled the void and WPLM further along Rte 3 did so as well. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > On 11/23/2013 3:43 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> >> The major players were WBZ (1030), WNAC (1260) and WEEI (590) - by >> 1948 WHDH (850) also became a force. >> >> WNAC would buy WLAW (680) to enhance signal. >> >> Nobody gave a hoot about MetroWest in those days or for that matter >> the south shore. >> > > > Not sure I totally agree-- WJDA in Quincy was still very popular back then, > and they trusted the station's news staff-- Herb Fontaine became news > director and he was widely respected. In fact, WJDA was sufficiently > popular on the south shore that its owner (Jim Asher) was in the process of > moving to bigger studios and expanding the size of the newsroom. (A number > of important Boston broadcasters got their start at WJDA...) From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Nov 23 13:02:13 2013 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:02:13 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: References: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> <8D68503691994B2A973752E41E99F4A1@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <5290EDA5.2080100@donnahalper.com> On 11/23/2013 3:43 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The major players were WBZ (1030), WNAC (1260) and WEEI (590) - by > 1948 WHDH (850) also became a force. > > WNAC would buy WLAW (680) to enhance signal. > > Nobody gave a hoot about MetroWest in those days or for that matter > the south shore. > Not sure I totally agree-- WJDA in Quincy was still very popular back then, and they trusted the station's news staff-- Herb Fontaine became news director and he was widely respected. In fact, WJDA was sufficiently popular on the south shore that its owner (Jim Asher) was in the process of moving to bigger studios and expanding the size of the newsroom. (A number of important Boston broadcasters got their start at WJDA...) From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Nov 23 13:04:00 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:04:00 -0500 Subject: 69 LPFM applications for Mass. in the latest filing window In-Reply-To: <21136.60425.678671.149413@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <21136.60425.678671.149413@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: Why should Touch FM bother with paperwork? On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < >> Why are there no applications for 106.1 ?? > > There's one in Worcester. 106.1 is precluded in eastern Mass. due to > spacing restrictions with 106.1 Hyannis and the 106.3s in Woonsocket > and Nashua. It is, however, available as a translator output > frequency. See page 18 of > > > -GAWollman > From scott@fybush.com Sat Nov 23 16:14:52 2013 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 16:14:52 -0500 Subject: Tower Site Calendar in the news Message-ID: <52911ACC.4060107@fybush.com> I'm given to understand that an article about a certain calendar and its creator will be appearing in Sunday's Worcester Telegram & Gazette. (Its former sister station, WTAG 580, appears in the 2014 edition, you see...) If anyone in central Mass. has access to a print copy of the paper and wouldn't mind sending the article this way, I'd be most grateful! Thanks... s From elipolo@earthlink.net Sat Nov 23 15:48:01 2013 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 15:48:01 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: 69 LPFM applications for Mass. in the latest filing window Message-ID: <3367015.1385239681319.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 10:54:05 -0500 (EST) >From: Jibguy@aol.com >To: bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: 69 LPFM applications for Mass. in the >latest filing window > >Why are there no applications for 106.1 ?? There is one listed for Worcester, but none for Boston. I'll venture to guess that 106.1 may not be considered an available frequency even for LPFM in Boston, further disproving the claim by pirate station "Touch" that they are a LPFM. EP From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Sat Nov 23 19:45:52 2013 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 16:45:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Boston radio dial in 1963 Message-ID: <1385253952.82077.YahooMailNeo@web121401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> >Dan Strassberg wrote: In 1963, WNAC 680 was DA-1; it has been DA-2 >for many years but, AFAIK, not all the way back in 1963. ? ???? IIRC, the history of WLAW/WNAC/WRKO on bostonradio says the station upgraded to DA-2 with a new daytime pattern just before its flip in early 1967 to top 40 with the new WRKO calls. It was aimed at improving?the daytime signal in Metro West -- although it's still not what you'd like to have and really falls short at night.?All the?significant Boston AM stations except WBZ have to use DA's that hurt their signals in Metro West. Which reminds me . . . I've always wondered how two stations on the air by the mid-1920's,?590 in Boston and 580 in Worcester, ended up stuck on first adjacent channels so their signals had to be so significantly compromised. From markwa1ion@aol.com Sat Nov 23 23:06:14 2013 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 23:06:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: <237ec.399da2b9.3fc1950b@aol.com> References: <237ec.399da2b9.3fc1950b@aol.com> Message-ID: <8D0B6E1A6C4B627-8C8-620B1@webmail-va021.sysops.aol.com> Thanks to Rob Landry, Kevin Vahey, Donna Halper, A. Joseph Ross, Martin Waters, Chris Sullivan, and Dan Strassberg for all the comments about Boston Radio 50 Years Ago. I hadn't included WKOX (1190 Framingham) because in 1963 it was a "rimshot" signal of low strength in downtown Boston. For the same reason, I didn't mention Marlborough (1470), Lowell (980, 1400), Lawrence (800, 1400), Haverhill (1490), Beverly (1570), or Brockton (1410, 1460). Of course the eventual successor to 1190, namely WXKS 1200, with more power and the Newton site, is obviously no longer in the "rimshot" category. Additional comments will be welcomed. One of the better portable radios I had back in those days was the one shown at: http://chowdanet.com/markc/WEB2005A/1961_realistic_8_transistor.gif Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA From richard@chonak.com Sat Nov 23 23:42:21 2013 From: richard@chonak.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 23:42:21 -0500 Subject: 69 LPFM applications for Mass. in the latest filing window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <529183AD.7050204@chonak.com> FCC writes: > LPFM stations are available to noncommercial educational entities and > public safety and transportation organizations, but are not available > to individuals or for commercial operations. I wonder whether the two individuals in Fall River know this. The pirates seem to understand that commercial operations aren't eligible. --RC On 11/23/2013 12:53 PM, Bob DeMattia wrote: > In fact, I see none of the pirates on the list. > >> From: Jibguy@aol.com >> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 10:54:05 -0500 >> Subject: Re: 69 LPFM applications for Mass. in the latest filing window >> To: bri@bostonradio.org >> >> Why are there no applications for 106.1 ?? > From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Nov 24 00:30:36 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 00:30:36 -0500 Subject: 69 LPFM applications for Mass. in the latest filing window In-Reply-To: <529183AD.7050204@chonak.com> References: <529183AD.7050204@chonak.com> Message-ID: <21137.36604.352325.649932@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > FCC writes: >> LPFM stations are available to noncommercial educational entities and >> public safety and transportation organizations, but are not available >> to individuals or for commercial operations. > I wonder whether the two individuals in Fall River know this. The > pirates seem to understand that commercial operations aren't eligible. The "Melissa Cleaves" application is actually from the Greater Fall River Baptist Church; she apparently misunderstood (or didn't read) the instructions on the form. (It says "Legal Name of the Applicant", but she seems to have misunderstood "Applicant" as "the person filling out this form" rather than "the entity requesting a permit".) "Jason Cleaves" appears to have the same misunderstanding. He apparently operates a streamer called "Troy City Radio", but the application is deficient in a number of areas and will probably be tossed if he doesn't amend it to specify an eligible licensee and provide a valid engineering exhibit to supplement "THERE SHOULD BE NO ISSUES". I wonder how many of the 2,700 other applications have similar infirmities. -GAWollman From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Nov 23 23:39:55 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 23:39:55 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: <8D0B6E1A6C4B627-8C8-620B1@webmail-va021.sysops.aol.com> References: <237ec.399da2b9.3fc1950b@aol.com> <8D0B6E1A6C4B627-8C8-620B1@webmail-va021.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: When did NBC move to WCOP? ( Red Sox 1967 World Series was on 1150) - I listened to Monitor in the mid 60's so somebody was clearing it. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Mark Connelly wrote: > Thanks to Rob Landry, Kevin Vahey, Donna Halper, A. Joseph Ross, Martin > Waters, Chris Sullivan, and Dan Strassberg for all the comments about Boston > Radio 50 Years Ago. > > I hadn't included WKOX (1190 Framingham) because in 1963 it was a "rimshot" > signal of low strength in downtown Boston. For the same reason, I didn't > mention Marlborough (1470), Lowell (980, 1400), Lawrence (800, 1400), > Haverhill (1490), Beverly (1570), or Brockton (1410, 1460). > > Of course the eventual successor to 1190, namely WXKS 1200, with more power > and the Newton site, is obviously no longer in the "rimshot" category. > > Additional comments will be welcomed. > > One of the better portable radios I had back in those days was the one shown > at: > http://chowdanet.com/markc/WEB2005A/1961_realistic_8_transistor.gif > > Mark Connelly, WA1ION > South Yarmouth, MA > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Nov 24 03:31:18 2013 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 03:31:18 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: References: <237ec.399da2b9.3fc1950b@aol.com> <8D0B6E1A6C4B627-8C8-620B1@webmail-va021.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5291B956.8040703@donnahalper.com> On 11/23/2013 11:39 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > When did NBC move to WCOP? ( Red Sox 1967 World Series was on 1150) - > I listened to Monitor in the mid 60's so somebody was clearing it. > The change occurred on September 1, 1965, according to the big ads WCOP placed in the newspapers. From irw@well.com Sun Nov 24 08:16:13 2013 From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 05:16:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Tower Site Calendar in the news In-Reply-To: <52911ACC.4060107@fybush.com> References: <52911ACC.4060107@fybush.com> Message-ID: <2066873082.26317.1385298973217.JavaMail.zimbra@well.com> http://www.telegram.com/article/20131124/COLUMN73/311249984/0/SEARCH Excerpt: But Scott Fybush, a public radio journalist in Rochester, N.Y., has been making a side living since 2001 printing a calendar chock-full of beautiful shots of ... radio and television towers. "Yes, you read that right," announced a snappy press release. "Prettiest radio towers." I thought it was a joke. But it's a real business. In his best year, Mr. Fybush sold 1,000 calendars, to radio enthusiasts all over the world. He usually sells about 800. From francini@mac.com Sun Nov 24 10:30:16 2013 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 10:30:16 -0500 Subject: Tower Site Calendar in the news In-Reply-To: <2066873082.26317.1385298973217.JavaMail.zimbra@well.com> References: <52911ACC.4060107@fybush.com> <2066873082.26317.1385298973217.JavaMail.zimbra@well.com> Message-ID: But his last line shows just what he--probably non-technical and proud of it--thinks of this sort of thing. The link to the fybush.com web site reads: "I can't think who I would give it to, though. Who deserves some coal in their stocking?" Sigh. However, his article did get me to go to fybush.com and order a calendar. john On 24 Nov 2013, at 8:16 , Blaine Thompson wrote: > http://www.telegram.com/article/20131124/COLUMN73/311249984/0/SEARCH > > Excerpt: > > But Scott Fybush, a public radio journalist in Rochester, N.Y., has been making a side living since 2001 printing a calendar chock-full of beautiful shots of ... radio and television towers. > > "Yes, you read that right," announced a snappy press release. "Prettiest radio towers." > > I thought it was a joke. But it's a real business. In his best year, Mr. Fybush sold 1,000 calendars, to radio enthusiasts all over the world. He usually sells about 800. > From rbello@belloassoc.com Sun Nov 24 12:52:48 2013 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:52:48 -0500 Subject: Fwd: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: References: <237ec.399da2b9.3fc1950b@aol.com> <8D0B6E1A6C4B627-8C8-620B1@webmail-va021.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: IIRC, the 1967 World Series was on both WHDH and WCOP with different announcing crews. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > When did NBC move to WCOP? ( Red Sox 1967 World Series was on 1150) - > > > From Cdsull502@aol.com Sun Nov 24 14:14:04 2013 From: Cdsull502@aol.com (Cdsull502@aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 14:14:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago Message-ID: <9cd2a.7ea8d570.3fc3a9fc@aol.com> It was the same NBC feed on both stations; only the post-game and pre-game shows were different. Chris Sullivan CdSull502@aol.com In a message dated 11/24/2013 1:47:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rbello@belloassoc.com writes: IIRC, the 1967 World Series was on both WHDH and WCOP with different announcing crews. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > When did NBC move to WCOP? ( Red Sox 1967 World Series was on 1150) - > > > From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sun Nov 24 16:17:06 2013 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:17:06 -0500 Subject: Boston radio dial in 1963 References: <1385253952.82077.YahooMailNeo@web121401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5433060A83B84B64B7BB23FFED4426A1@Desktop> >Dan Strassberg wrote: In 1963, WNAC 680 was DA-1; it has been DA-2 >for many years but, AFAIK, not all the way back in 1963. So...when WNAC took over 680AM...it had been broadcasting from West Andover as WLAW. Did WNAC ever operate from the West Andover facility...at least tempoirarily until they moved the transmitting site? From scott@fybush.com Sun Nov 24 16:56:51 2013 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:56:51 -0500 Subject: Boston radio dial in 1963 In-Reply-To: <5433060A83B84B64B7BB23FFED4426A1@Desktop> References: <1385253952.82077.YahooMailNeo@web121401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5433060A83B84B64B7BB23FFED4426A1@Desktop> Message-ID: <52927623.7030109@fybush.com> On 11/24/2013 4:17 PM, Don wrote: > Did WNAC ever operate from the West Andover facility...at least > tempoirarily until they moved the transmitting site? > No. The Burlington site was built by WLAW in the 1940s, long before WLAW sold out to WNAC. The center tower on the Burlington site held the antenna for WLAW-FM 93.7, the license of which was returned to the FCC when WNAC took over in 1953, since WNAC already had its own Boston-based FM station on 98.5. s From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sun Nov 24 17:35:33 2013 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:35:33 -0500 Subject: WNAC/WLAW References: <1385253952.82077.YahooMailNeo@web121401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5433060A83B84B64B7BB23FFED4426A1@Desktop> <52927623.7030109@fybush.com> Message-ID: >> Did WNAC ever operate from the West Andover facility...at least >> tempoirarily until they moved the transmitting site? > > No. The Burlington site was built by WLAW in the 1940s, long before WLAW > sold out to WNAC. So the Eagle-Tribune (The Rogers Family) built and operated the site in Burlington as WLAW. And the WNAC people took over the 680 frequency from the same site they have been operating from? (Did I understand this right?) Also, I remember reading the old newspaper articles from 1937/1939-ish about WLAW signing on. The article mentioned it would have 1,000 watts of power. (I assume omnidirectional.) What were the steps of change from the orginal 1,000 watts omnidirectiional of 680....to the power and pattern they have today? Anyone know the chronology of the changes in facilities (power and pattern)? From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Nov 24 17:36:46 2013 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:36:46 -0500 Subject: Tower Site Calendar in the news In-Reply-To: <52911ACC.4060107@fybush.com> References: <52911ACC.4060107@fybush.com> Message-ID: <52927F7E.20405@donnahalper.com> On 11/23/2013 4:14 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > I'm given to understand that an article about a certain calendar and > its creator will be appearing in Sunday's Worcester Telegram & > Gazette. (Its former sister station, WTAG 580, appears in the 2014 > edition, you see...) > > If anyone in central Mass. has access to a print copy of the paper and > wouldn't mind sending the article this way, I'd be most grateful! My husband went to Worcester for you and we do have the Sunday Worcester Telegram. Let us know if you still need it. From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Nov 24 17:46:20 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:46:20 -0500 Subject: Boston radio dial in 1963 In-Reply-To: <52927623.7030109@fybush.com> References: <1385253952.82077.YahooMailNeo@web121401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5433060A83B84B64B7BB23FFED4426A1@Desktop> <52927623.7030109@fybush.com> Message-ID: WRKO tweaked the daytime signal again around 1970 where with a good car radio you could get a signal on the Mass Pike as far as the NY state line. Nighttime the signal vanished at Exit 12 in Framingham. On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > On 11/24/2013 4:17 PM, Don wrote: > >> Did WNAC ever operate from the West Andover facility...at least >> tempoirarily until they moved the transmitting site? >> > > No. The Burlington site was built by WLAW in the 1940s, long before WLAW > sold out to WNAC. The center tower on the Burlington site held the antenna > for WLAW-FM 93.7, the license of which was returned to the FCC when WNAC > took over in 1953, since WNAC already had its own Boston-based FM station on > 98.5. > > s > > From sids1045@aol.com Sun Nov 24 19:43:41 2013 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:43:41 -0500 Subject: Boston radio dial in 1963 In-Reply-To: References: <1385253952.82077.YahooMailNeo@web121401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5433060A83B84B64B7BB23FFED4426A1@Desktop> <52927623.7030109@fybush.com> Message-ID: <0B24BDBF-945E-4690-9913-03E9C54FD883@aol.com> "WRKO tweaked the daytime signal again around 1970 where with a good car radio you could get a signal on the Mass Pike as far as the NY state line." It was at about that time that daytime protections on "clear" channels were reduced to (I believe) 1000 miles, which allowed lots of AM's to let out their daytime patterns a bit and/or increase their daytime power. From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Sun Nov 24 21:11:01 2013 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 18:11:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Boston radio dial in 1963 In-Reply-To: <0B24BDBF-945E-4690-9913-03E9C54FD883@aol.com> References: <1385253952.82077.YahooMailNeo@web121401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5433060A83B84B64B7BB23FFED4426A1@Desktop> <52927623.7030109@fybush.com> <0B24BDBF-945E-4690-9913-03E9C54FD883@aol.com> Message-ID: <1385345461.72253.YahooMailNeo@web121404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> >Sid Schweiger wrote:>It was at about that time that daytime protections on "clear" channels >were reduced to (I believe) 1000 miles, which allowed lots of AM's to let >out their daytime patterns a bit and/or increase their daytime power. ? ????? 680 (and also 850) was, from 1941 until the rules about clear channels started to be changed, a Class I-B channel on which only one Class I-B station was assigned, rather than the usual two (i.e., WTIC, Hartford, and KRLD, Dallas, on 1080). Instead, on 680, a bunch of?Class II stations were assigned in the eastern United States. The "granddaddy" is WPTF, Raleigh, 50 kw, directional only at night. Also, there is a station in Baltimore and some others in addition to Boston. So, I think WRKO's?night pattern is limited by that group of stations, not by KNBR (or maybe it's the former KNBR) in San Francisco. ? ????Also, rule changes for clear channel stations wouldn't affect secondary stations' daytime operations when they're located so far apart. On Sunday, November 24, 2013 8:19 PM, Sid Schweiger wrote: "WRKO tweaked the daytime signal again around 1970 where with a good car radio you could get a signal on the Mass Pike as far as the NY state line." > >It was at about that time that daytime protections on "clear" channels were reduced to (I believe) 1000 miles, which allowed lots of AM's to let out their daytime patterns a bit and/or increase their daytime power. > > > > > From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Nov 24 23:50:26 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 23:50:26 -0500 Subject: Boston radio dial in 1963 In-Reply-To: <1385345461.72253.YahooMailNeo@web121404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1385253952.82077.YahooMailNeo@web121401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5433060A83B84B64B7BB23FFED4426A1@Desktop> <52927623.7030109@fybush.com> <0B24BDBF-945E-4690-9913-03E9C54FD883@aol.com> <1385345461.72253.YahooMailNeo@web121404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <21138.55058.396145.925782@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > addition to Boston. So, I think WRKO's?night pattern is limited by > that group of stations, not by KNBR (or maybe it's the former KNBR) > in San Francisco. Rather than just speculating, you could look at the patterns: WRKO's night pattern has a broad null off the back side, protecting both San Francisco and Raleigh (and deeper in the direction of Raleigh than San Francisco). WPTF has two deep nulls, one toward San Francisco and one toward Boston. Or look at the timeline entry for July 17, 1940: Ratifying a mutual interference agreement, the FCC grants construction permits for WPTF (680 Raleigh, N.C.) to increase power to 50 kW, full time, and for WLAW (680 Lawrence) to go full-time with 5 kW. Both stations would install directional antennas protecting each other in addition to NBC's KPO (680 San Francisco), the dominant station on the channel. When WRKO upgraded to 50 kW-N, one of the conditions would have been to maintain existing (negotiated) protections to San Francisco and Raleigh. This is why the WRKO signal sucks in MetroWest at night. -GAWollman From dillane@sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 24 23:08:12 2013 From: dillane@sbcglobal.net (Bill Dillane) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 20:08:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Boston radio dial in 1963 Message-ID: <1385352492.74352.YahooMailNeo@web184904.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >WEEI - 590 talk, CBS news, drama shows such as "Yours Truly Johnny Dollar" and "Suspense" I thought Jim Westover was hired in 1963 to do telephone talk at night.? I screened calls for him in 1971/72. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Nov 25 01:48:19 2013 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 01:48:19 -0500 Subject: Boston radio dial in 1963 In-Reply-To: <1385352492.74352.YahooMailNeo@web184904.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1385352492.74352.YahooMailNeo@web184904.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5292F2B3.3070006@donnahalper.com> On 11/24/2013 11:08 PM, Bill Dillane wrote: > I thought Jim Westover was hired in 1963 to do telephone talk at night. I screened calls for him in 1971/72. > According to the Boston newspapers, he joined WEEI in early March 1964. From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Nov 25 01:32:07 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 01:32:07 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: References: <237ec.399da2b9.3fc1950b@aol.com> <8D0B6E1A6C4B627-8C8-620B1@webmail-va021.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5292EEE7.6020908@attorneyross.com> On 11/23/2013 11:39 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > When did NBC move to WCOP? ( Red Sox 1967 World Series was on 1150) - > I listened to Monitor in the mid 60's so somebody was clearing it. I'm not sure who was carrying NBC in the 1960s, but I don't think WEZE was carrying much more than news and maybe the Jewish religious show "The Eternal Light" on Sunday. I don't think WCOP began carrying NBC until sometime in the early 1970s, but I could be mistaken. I wasn't paying close attention to that at the time. I know that for awhile ABC was on WVDA/WEZE in the 1950s, and after WEZE became the NBC affiliate (after WNAC dropped NBC), ABC was carried on WTAO, and occasional evening ABC programs may have been carried on sister station WXHR. Also, Mutual was on WORL for awhile in the late 50s or early 60s, after WNAC dropped it. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Nov 25 01:38:21 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 01:38:21 -0500 Subject: Boston radio dial in 1963 In-Reply-To: <52927623.7030109@fybush.com> References: <1385253952.82077.YahooMailNeo@web121401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5433060A83B84B64B7BB23FFED4426A1@Desktop> <52927623.7030109@fybush.com> Message-ID: <5292F05D.4000001@attorneyross.com> On 11/24/2013 4:56 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > On 11/24/2013 4:17 PM, Don wrote: > >> Did WNAC ever operate from the West Andover facility...at least >> tempoirarily until they moved the transmitting site? >> > > No. The Burlington site was built by WLAW in the 1940s, long before > WLAW sold out to WNAC. The center tower on the Burlington site held > the antenna for WLAW-FM 93.7, the license of which was returned to the > FCC when WNAC took over in 1953, since WNAC already had its own > Boston-based FM station on 98.5. Next question is, when did WNAC stop ID-ing as "WNAC, Boston and Lawrence"? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Nov 25 01:44:59 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 01:44:59 -0500 Subject: Boston radio dial in 1963 In-Reply-To: <1385352492.74352.YahooMailNeo@web184904.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1385352492.74352.YahooMailNeo@web184904.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5292F1EB.3020204@attorneyross.com> On 11/24/2013 11:08 PM, Bill Dillane wrote: >> WEEI - 590 talk, CBS news, drama shows such as "Yours Truly Johnny Dollar" and "Suspense" > I thought Jim Westover was hired in 1963 to do telephone talk at night. I screened calls for him in 1971/72. Well, as I said awhile ago, Suspense and Johnny Dollar were gone by 1963. But the last remaining radio dramas were on CBS radio fairly early on Sunday evening, I think around 5:00 or 6:00 or so. At one time there were four shows: Gunsmoke, Have Gun, Will Travel, Suspense, and Johnny Dollar. At one time I read that Johnny Dollar was the last of them because it was the last show in that block when they all went off. But I've also read that at least some of the others, maybe all, had already gone off earlier when Johnny Dollar left the air. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Nov 25 01:47:14 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 01:47:14 -0500 Subject: Boston radio dial in 1963 In-Reply-To: <21138.55058.396145.925782@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <1385253952.82077.YahooMailNeo@web121401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5433060A83B84B64B7BB23FFED4426A1@Desktop> <52927623.7030109@fybush.com> <0B24BDBF-945E-4690-9913-03E9C54FD883@aol.com> <1385345461.72253.YahooMailNeo@web121404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <21138.55058.396145.925782@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <5292F272.5000401@attorneyross.com> On 11/24/2013 11:50 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > When WRKO upgraded to 50 kW-N, one of the conditions would have been > to maintain existing (negotiated) protections to San Francisco and > Raleigh. This is why the WRKO signal sucks in MetroWest at night. I thought it was WNAC or WLAW that upgraded to 50,000 watts. Would that transmitter have been able to cover Boston with only 5000 watts? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From 011010001@interpring.com Sat Nov 23 14:39:43 2013 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 14:39:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Nov 2013, Mark Connelly wrote: > WCRB - 1330 > classical music ("Concert Radio Boston") Not "Concert Radio Boston", but "Charles River Broadcasting". The WCRB call letters were original (1948) and predated the classical format, which began in 1951. Rob From lglavin@mail.com Sat Nov 23 15:22:30 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 15:22:30 -0500 Subject: 69 LPFM applications for Mass. in the latest filing window Message-ID: <20131123202230.224670@gmx.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: Sean Smyth >Sent: 11/23/13 09:45 AM >To: wollman@bimajority.org, bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: RE: 69 LPFM applications for Mass. in the latest filing window >Interesting that the City of Boston applied for an LPFM license that probably couldn't be heard in much of the city. Also looks like a brother and sister, or husband and wife, both >applied for 88.1 in Fall River.

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...... There's an entertaining website about all things Boston called Universal Hub ( http://www.universalhub.com ). Its entries for Saturday, November 23, 2013 include one about the two potential LPFMs in Dorchester and East Boston. Some people replying to the article are unhappy that they'd even CONSIDER starting up radio stations that nobody would listen to. The new Mayor may have something to say about this. And there are of course mutually-exclusive competing applicants in Boston and nearby. From lglavin@mail.com Sun Nov 24 14:06:27 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 14:06:27 -0500 Subject: WCRB On WCAI-HD@; Is This New? Message-ID: <20131124190627.298240@gmx.com> I don't know if this is new or I just noticed it, but WCRB 99.5 FM seejms to have added WCAI-FM HD2 Woods Hole, MA to its lengthy list of co-broadcasters. WCAI has a CP to increase its power, so by definition work is being done either on its current transmitter or a new one is being installed. Maybe they're involved in testing the new facility now that the objections raised by WCCT-FM appear to have been dismissed. From lglavin@mail.com Sun Nov 24 13:50:30 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 13:50:30 -0500 Subject: Tower Site Calendar in the news Message-ID: <20131124185030.212460@gmx.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: Blaine Thompson >Sent: 11/24/13 08:16 AM > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Re: Tower Site Calendar in the news >http://www.telegram.com/article/20131124/COLUMN73/311249984/0/SEARCH >Excerpt: >But Scott Fybush, a public radio journalist in Rochester, N.Y., has been making a side living since 2001 printing a calendar chock-full of beautiful shots of ... radio and television >towers. >"Yes, you read that right," announced a snappy press release. "Prettiest radio towers." >I thought it was a joke. But it's a real business. In his best year, Mr. Fybush sold 1,000 calendars, to radio enthusiasts all over the world. He usually sells about 800. A friend of mine who has a summah house on Cape Cod is a lighthouse geek. He has calendars, photos, artistic renderings of lighthouses, blowups of photos he himself had taken whle visiting lghthouses. The last time I visited his house there, I brought along a Tower Calendar to show him that there are other things that people obsess about ( cats for example of course) I turned to the page showing the AM 1150 and old 100.7 FM tower on Route 2 in Lexington that he recognized from his travels. From lglavin@mail.com Sun Nov 24 16:41:03 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:41:03 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago Message-ID: <20131124214103.205740@gmx.com> >----- Original Message ---From: Mark Connelly >Sent: 11/23/13 11:06 PM >To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Boston AM dial 50 years ago Thanks to Rob Landry, Kevin Vahey, Donna Halper, A. Joseph Ross, Martin Waters, Chris Sullivan, and Dan Strassberg for all the comments about Boston Radio 50 Years Ago. ......Aha! Rob Landry still visits this site long after his exit years ago. Maybe now he'll be inspired to rejoin the BRIG now that his presence has been exposed. From jjlehmann@comcast.net Mon Nov 25 14:33:52 2013 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:33:52 -0500 Subject: WCRB On WCAI-HD@; Is This New? In-Reply-To: <20131124190627.298240@gmx.com> References: <20131124190627.298240@gmx.com> Message-ID: I hadn't noticed this until your post. Here in Hanson with my outdoor directional antenna, WCAI used to be very weak, as it was vertically polarized and my antenna is horizontal. I just checked now and the signal is now strong when I point down that way. The HD locks in most of the time and WCRB is indeed on the HD2. The new signal appears to be circularly polarized like most FMs. Many new FMs down along the south coast over the last 10-15 years have been vertical only because of potential interference to WLNE 6. Obviously since WLNE DT is on 49 and the analog is gone, this is no longer an issue. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA > On Nov 24, 2013, at 2:06 PM, "Laurence Glavin" wrote: > > I don't know if this is new or I just noticed it, but WCRB 99.5 FM seejms to have added WCAI-FM HD2 Woods Hole, MA to its > lengthy list of co-broadcasters. WCAI has a CP to increase its power, so by definition work is being > done either on its current transmitter or a new one is being installed. Maybe they're involved in testing > the new facility now that the objections raised by WCCT-FM appear to have been dismissed. From ehennessy@verizon.net Mon Nov 25 15:13:00 2013 From: ehennessy@verizon.net (Ed Hennessy) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:13:00 -0600 (CST) Subject: WCRB On WCAI-HD@; Is This New? Message-ID: <3570662.144517.1385410380049.JavaMail.root@vznit170126> And when I ran a scan last night, WCAI was on one of the HD subchannels of WCRB, too (HD-3 I believe), with a tag of "Cape and Islands Classical Music." Ed Hennessy On 11/25/13, Jeff Lehmann wrote: I hadn't noticed this until your post. Here in Hanson with my outdoor directional antenna, WCAI used to be very weak, as it was vertically polarized and my antenna is horizontal. I just checked now and the signal is now strong when I point down that way. The HD locks in most of the time and WCRB is indeed on the HD2. The new signal appears to be circularly polarized like most FMs. Many new FMs down along the south coast over the last 10-15 years have been vertical only because of potential interference to WLNE 6. Obviously since WLNE DT is on 49 and the analog is gone, this is no longer an issue. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Nov 25 16:32:50 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:32:50 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: References: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5293C202.6070207@attorneyross.com> On 11/23/2013 2:39 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2013, Mark Connelly wrote: > >> WCRB - 1330 >> classical music ("Concert Radio Boston") > > Not "Concert Radio Boston", but "Charles River Broadcasting". The WCRB > call letters were original (1948) and predated the classical format, > which began in 1951. And even after that, WCRB seems to have covered community events more than it does now. I've seen a picture of a debate or some such between incumbent Senator Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. and then-Congressman John F. Kennedy, in connection with the 1952 election contest between them, with one of the microphones labelled "WCRB." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com From jjlehmann@comcast.net Mon Nov 25 17:37:19 2013 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:37:19 -0500 Subject: WCRB On WCAI-HD@; Is This New? In-Reply-To: <3570662.144517.1385410380049.JavaMail.root@vznit170126> References: <3570662.144517.1385410380049.JavaMail.root@vznit170126> Message-ID: <010a01ceea2e$e682f3a0$b388dae0$@net> > And when I ran a scan last night, WCAI was on one of the HD > subchannels of WCRB, too (HD-3 I believe), with a tag of "Cape and > Islands Classical Music." Checking right now, WCRB still has no subchannels. Could you have meant 89.7 WGBH? They have had WCAI on the HD3 (along with CRB on HD2) for several years. WCAI is NPR news/talk. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Nov 25 17:39:47 2013 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: WCRB On WCAI-HD@; Is This New? In-Reply-To: References: <20131124190627.298240@gmx.com> Message-ID: <3895E4BE-63C6-41F1-B748-3E446EF66F1B@mac.com> On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > I hadn't noticed this until your post. Here in Hanson with my outdoor directional antenna, WCAI used to be very weak, as it was vertically polarized and my antenna is horizontal. I just checked now and the signal is now strong when I point down that way. The HD locks in most of the time and WCRB is indeed on the HD2. I wonder if they are running the higher-powered HD (I believe it's 10% of the analog carrier) that FM stations were authorized for several years ago? Since this is a newly upgraded installation perhaps they upped the HD power, which most existing HD stations did not do since they already have an HD installation in place and did not want to start over. From ehennessy@verizon.net Mon Nov 25 18:37:12 2013 From: ehennessy@verizon.net (Ed Hennessy) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:37:12 -0600 (CST) Subject: WCRB On WCAI-HD@; Is This New? Message-ID: <15117582.13984.1385422632495.JavaMail.root@vznit170128> On 11/25/13, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > And when I ran a scan last night, WCAI was on one of the HD > subchannels of WCRB, too (HD-3 I believe), with a tag of "Cape and > Islands Classical Music." Checking right now, WCRB still has no subchannels. Could you have meant 89.7 WGBH? They have had WCAI on the HD3 (along with CRB on HD2) for several years. WCAI is NPR news/talk. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA Yes, you are correct. It was on WGBH. Brain cramp. I just checked as well. I apologize for the confusion. Ed H. From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Nov 25 22:03:43 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 22:03:43 -0500 Subject: Boston radio dial in 1963 In-Reply-To: <5292F272.5000401@attorneyross.com> References: <1385253952.82077.YahooMailNeo@web121401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5433060A83B84B64B7BB23FFED4426A1@Desktop> <52927623.7030109@fybush.com> <0B24BDBF-945E-4690-9913-03E9C54FD883@aol.com> <1385345461.72253.YahooMailNeo@web121404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <21138.55058.396145.925782@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <5292F272.5000401@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <21140.3983.578405.649532@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > On 11/24/2013 11:50 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> When WRKO upgraded to 50 kW-N, one of the conditions would have been >> to maintain existing (negotiated) protections to San Francisco and >> Raleigh. This is why the WRKO signal sucks in MetroWest at night. > I thought it was WNAC or WLAW that upgraded to 50,000 watts. Would that > transmitter have been able to cover Boston with only 5000 watts? It's the same station, only the call signs have changed. Just as we now say that WRKO was built to protect KNBR, when synchronically, WLAW was built to protect KPO. -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Nov 25 23:22:54 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 23:22:54 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: References: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5294221E.6040600@attorneyross.com> On 11/23/2013 2:39 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > Not "Concert Radio Boston", but "Charles River Broadcasting". The WCRB > call letters were original (1948) and predated the classical format, > which began in 1951. I'd love to know more about what WCRB was doing before it went classical and how that came about. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Nov 25 23:31:55 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 23:31:55 -0500 Subject: WCRB On WCAI-HD@; Is This New? In-Reply-To: <20131124190627.298240@gmx.com> References: <20131124190627.298240@gmx.com> Message-ID: <5294243B.3000503@attorneyross.com> On 11/24/2013 2:06 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: > I don't know if this is new or I just noticed it, but WCRB 99.5 FM seejms to have added WCAI-FM HD2 Woods Hole, MA to its > lengthy list of co-broadcasters. WCAI has a CP to increase its power, so by definition work is being > done either on its current transmitter or a new one is being installed. Maybe they're involved in testing > the new facility now that the objections raised by WCCT-FM appear to have been dismissed. Speaking of which, whatever happened to WFCC? I don't think it was sold along with WCRB. Is it still a classical station? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Nov 26 01:26:46 2013 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 01:26:46 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: <5294221E.6040600@attorneyross.com> References: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> <5294221E.6040600@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <52943F26.6040503@donnahalper.com> On 11/25/2013 11:22 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 11/23/2013 2:39 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > >> Not "Concert Radio Boston", but "Charles River Broadcasting". The >> WCRB call letters were original (1948) and predated the classical >> format, which began in 1951. Actually, there's some evidence the 1951 date isn't accurate. I am looking at program listings from their early days-- and in 1948-1949, they were your basic Waltham-Newton AM station, with locally produced educational programs, entertainment by local performers, announcers who played popular music, a women's show, a jazz show, etc. Famous local entertainers like vocal duo "Hum and Strum" performed live on WCRB too. But there's evidence that this variety type of programming was phased out very gradually-- in fact, a Boston Globe interview with Ted Jones in early November 1953 said he had finally eliminated the last of the jazz and pop music programming, because the listeners were very vocal about wanting only "good music"-- concert music, semi-classical, and opera. WCRB-AM had been phasing in classical programming since 1951, but the total change-over did not occur till November 8, 1953, according to Jones. From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Nov 26 01:36:26 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 01:36:26 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: <52943F26.6040503@donnahalper.com> References: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> <5294221E.6040600@attorneyross.com> <52943F26.6040503@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <5294416A.3000908@attorneyross.com> On 11/26/2013 1:26 AM, Donna Halper wrote: > Actually, there's some evidence the 1951 date isn't accurate. I am > looking at program listings from their early days-- and in 1948-1949, > they were your basic Waltham-Newton AM station, with locally produced > educational programs, entertainment by local performers, announcers > who played popular music, a women's show, a jazz show, etc. Famous > local entertainers like vocal duo "Hum and Strum" performed live on > WCRB too. But there's evidence that this variety type of programming > was phased out very gradually-- in fact, a Boston Globe interview with > Ted Jones in early November 1953 said he had finally eliminated the > last of the jazz and pop music programming, because the listeners were > very vocal about wanting only "good music"-- concert music, > semi-classical, and opera. WCRB-AM had been phasing in classical > programming since 1951, but the total change-over did not occur till > November 8, 1953, according to Jones. That would explain the WCRB mic sign at a Kennedy-Lodge meetup in 1952. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From gallen2@nescaum.org Tue Nov 26 07:49:57 2013 From: gallen2@nescaum.org (George Allen) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 07:49:57 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago Message-ID: <69c8d4c8-733e-4d69-80d8-e12996792000@MERCURY.nescaum.org> Me also. Altho I spent some quality time there in the late 60s and early 70s, I don't recall any pre-classical history. Did Ted Jones buy the station or start it from scratch? WCRB may have a "first" in Boston Radio history; they "let me go" because I was Caucasian, claiming the FCC required them to have better ethnic/racial balance on the staff. The Mass Comm. Against Discrimination promptly re-instated me. RIP TJ and RLK. George From: A Joseph Ross Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 23:22:54 -0500 Subject: Re: Boston AM dial 50 years ago On 11/23/2013 2:39 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > Not "Concert Radio Boston", but "Charles River Broadcasting". The WCRB > call letters were original (1948) and predated the classical format, > which began in 1951. I'd love to know more about what WCRB was doing before it went classical and how that came about. From gallen2@nescaum.org Tue Nov 26 07:45:41 2013 From: gallen2@nescaum.org (George Allen) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 07:45:41 -0500 Subject: All Xmas All Ready Message-ID: <3a054b8b-6098-4b34-810a-ae397652db72@MERCURY.nescaum.org> Last Friday whatever it is on 105.1 in metro Boston [lite soft rock or such] went 100% Xmas. Is that a new record?? From markwa1ion@aol.com Tue Nov 26 12:11:40 2013 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:11:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: All Xmas All Ready In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D0B8E1B4D994E6-FC8-7F360@webmail-m222.sysops.aol.com> 105.1 is WPJB Providence. 98.7 WKFY in Chatham, MA has been running Christmas music at least a week now. Mark Connelly South Yarmouth, MA << Last Friday whatever it is on 105.1 in metro Boston [lite soft rock or such] went 100% Xmas. Is that a new record?? >> From markwa1ion@aol.com Tue Nov 26 12:16:52 2013 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:16:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: All Xmas All Ready In-Reply-To: References: <8D0B8E1B4D994E6-FC8-7F360@webmail-m222.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8D0B8E26EB9813C-FC8-7F417@webmail-m222.sysops.aol.com> Thanks Paul. -----Original Message----- From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. To: Mark Connelly Cc: boston-radio-interest Sent: Tue, Nov 26, 2013 12:14 pm Subject: Re: All Xmas All Ready 105.1 is WWLI. They haven't been WPJB since 1985. Paul On Tuesday, November 26, 2013, Mark Connelly wrote: 105.1 is WPJB Providence. 98.7 WKFY in Chatham, MA has been running Christmas music at least a week now. Mark Connelly South Yarmouth, MA << Last Friday whatever it is on 105.1 in metro Boston [lite soft rock or such] went 100% Xmas. Is that a new record?? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Nov 26 12:18:24 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:18:24 -0500 Subject: Evolution 101.7 simulcast on WXKS-FM HD2 Message-ID: Someone on a messageboard noticed that WXKS FM 107.9's HD2 was no longer carrying Matty's Comedy, the former format of WXKS 1200. That station changed to Bloomberg, with a simulcast on the WJMN HD 2 signal. What's now on 107.9 HD2 is CC's WEDX 101.7 Lynn, and the TOH ID even includes the HD 2 for 107.9. Could just be CC accenting its elec dance music format on a station where the HD2 might carry it further, but one wonders if maybe they may try something else on 101.7 and relegate the "EDM" to HD2. My guess is that won't happen but the possibility does exist, however remote. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Tue Nov 26 12:47:35 2013 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:47:35 -0500 Subject: All Xmas All Ready References: <3a054b8b-6098-4b34-810a-ae397652db72@MERCURY.nescaum.org> Message-ID: <3C18B317E9B648B48919EFC785A83995@Desktop> > Last Friday whatever it is on 105.1 in metro Boston [lite soft rock > or such] went 100% Xmas. Is that a new record?? 105.1 is in Providence. I think the earliest Christmas flip was 2 years ago on Novemner 9th. It was Sunny and 62 degrees. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Nov 26 13:39:43 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 13:39:43 -0500 Subject: WCRB On WCAI-HD@; Is This New? In-Reply-To: <5294243B.3000503@attorneyross.com> References: <20131124190627.298240@gmx.com> <5294243B.3000503@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Indeed it is http://wfcc.com/ On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:31 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 11/24/2013 2:06 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > I don't know if this is new or I just noticed it, but WCRB 99.5 FM seejms >> to have added WCAI-FM HD2 Woods Hole, MA to its >> lengthy list of co-broadcasters. WCAI has a CP to increase its power, so >> by definition work is being >> done either on its current transmitter or a new one is being installed. >> Maybe they're involved in testing >> the new facility now that the objections raised by WCCT-FM appear to have >> been dismissed. >> > > Speaking of which, whatever happened to WFCC? I don't think it was sold > along with WCRB. Is it still a classical station? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Nov 26 13:40:59 2013 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 13:40:59 -0500 Subject: All Xmas All Ready In-Reply-To: <3C18B317E9B648B48919EFC785A83995@Desktop> References: <3a054b8b-6098-4b34-810a-ae397652db72@MERCURY.nescaum.org> <3C18B317E9B648B48919EFC785A83995@Desktop> Message-ID: <015c01ceead7$0ceefc20$26ccf460$@net> > I think the earliest Christmas flip was 2 years ago on Novemner 9th. > > It was Sunny and 62 degrees. WWLI flipped to Christmas on Friday November 8th this year. Many others in other parts of the country flipped earlier than that, including 101.5 WWBB right in Providence, which flipped on 11/6. Magic 106.7 here in Boston flipped last Friday, 11/22. Jeff Lehmann From gallen2@nescaum.org Tue Nov 26 13:56:13 2013 From: gallen2@nescaum.org (George Allen) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 13:56:13 -0500 Subject: All Xmas All Ready In-Reply-To: <015c01ceead7$0ceefc20$26ccf460$@net> References: <3a054b8b-6098-4b34-810a-ae397652db72@MERCURY.nescaum.org> <3C18B317E9B648B48919EFC785A83995@Desktop> <015c01ceead7$0ceefc20$26ccf460$@net> Message-ID: <13303675-5b48-4b93-96b1-a4301d43cdaa@MERCURY.nescaum.org> Does "flipped" mean a mix or 100% xmas songs? Indeed, the 106.7 playlist seems to be 100%. But to do that on 11/6? 6+ weeks of nothing but xmas songs? That's just nuts; doesn't it drive folks away? George At 01:40 PM 11/26/2013, Jeff Lehmann wrote: WWLI flipped to Christmas on Friday November 8th this year. Many others in other parts of the country flipped earlier than that, including 101.5 WWBB right in Providence, which flipped on 11/6. Magic 106.7 here in Boston flipped last Friday, 11/22. Jeff Lehmann From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Nov 26 14:00:20 2013 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:00:20 -0500 Subject: All Xmas All Ready In-Reply-To: <13303675-5b48-4b93-96b1-a4301d43cdaa@MERCURY.nescaum.org> References: <3a054b8b-6098-4b34-810a-ae397652db72@MERCURY.nescaum.org> <3C18B317E9B648B48919EFC785A83995@Desktop> <015c01ceead7$0ceefc20$26ccf460$@net> <13303675-5b48-4b93-96b1-a4301d43cdaa@MERCURY.nescaum.org> Message-ID: <016001ceead9$c0ef3cb0$42cdb610$@net> > Does "flipped" mean a mix or 100% xmas songs? Indeed, the 106.7 > playlist seems to be 100%. But to do that on 11/6? 6+ weeks of > nothing but xmas songs? That's just nuts; doesn't it drive folks away? By "flip" I mean 100% Christmas songs, yes. Actually ratings for stations that do it almost always go through the roof, that's why they keep doing it. Sure some people don't like it, but it's bringing in the money. Jeff Lehmann From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Tue Nov 26 14:08:00 2013 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:08:00 -0500 Subject: All Xmas All Ready References: <3a054b8b-6098-4b34-810a-ae397652db72@MERCURY.nescaum.org> <3C18B317E9B648B48919EFC785A83995@Desktop> <015c01ceead7$0ceefc20$26ccf460$@net> <13303675-5b48-4b93-96b1-a4301d43cdaa@MERCURY.nescaum.org> <016001ceead9$c0ef3cb0$42cdb610$@net> Message-ID: >> Does "flipped" mean a mix or 100% xmas songs? Indeed, the 106.7 >> playlist seems to be 100%. But to do that on 11/6? 6+ weeks of >> nothing but xmas songs? That's just nuts; doesn't it drive folks away? When stations start on 11/6 or early November, they may indeed take a bit of a hit in the ratings for those first couple of weeks. However, it is "offered up" for the greater benefit of being deamed "THE Christmas Station". And one gets that moniker by being the first to change and the buzz it creates in any market. Here in Boston, we are lucky we didn't have 2 stations trying to beat each other to the punch. Flipping to Christmas the week of Thanksgiving is not too bad. ;-) From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Nov 26 12:21:57 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:21:57 -0500 Subject: All Xmas All Ready In-Reply-To: <8D0B8E1B4D994E6-FC8-7F360@webmail-m222.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D0B8E1B4D994E6-FC8-7F360@webmail-m222.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: WMJX 106.7 went all Christmas last Fri at 5 pm. As for it being a record, one year it happened right after Election Day... in 2008, WROR and WODS both switched on Thursday, Nov 6 of that year (looked up a blog entry I did for Boston Radio Blog that year...yes.) On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Mark Connelly wrote: > 105.1 is WPJB Providence. > > 98.7 WKFY in Chatham, MA has been running Christmas music at least a week > now. > > Mark Connelly > South Yarmouth, MA > > << > Last Friday whatever it is on 105.1 in metro Boston [lite soft rock or > such] went 100% Xmas. Is that a new record?? > >> >>> > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Nov 26 12:30:21 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:30:21 -0500 Subject: Evolution 101.7 simulcast on WXKS-FM HD2 Message-ID: Someone on a messageboard noticed that WXKS FM 107.9's HD2 was no longer carrying Matty's Comedy, the former format of WXKS 1200. That station changed to Bloomberg, with a simulcast on the WJMN HD 2 signal. What's now on 107.9 HD2 is CC's WEDX 101.7 Lynn, and the TOH ID even includes the HD 2 for 107.9. Could just be CC accenting its elec dance music format on a station where the HD2 might carry it further, but one wonders if maybe they may try something else on 101.7 and relegate the "EDM" to HD2. My guess is that won't happen but the possibility does exist, however remote. From karenmctrotsky@gmail.com Mon Nov 25 17:00:37 2013 From: karenmctrotsky@gmail.com (Karen McTrotsky) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:00:37 -0500 Subject: Boston radio dial in 1963 Message-ID: Bill Dillane wrote: I thought Jim Westover was hired in 1963 to do telephone talk at night. I screened calls for him in 1971/72. ----- Best I can find for a definitive answer is two items from Pitts papers Westover resigned from KDKA in Feb, 1964 to go to WEEI according to the Feb. 11, 1964 Pittsburgh Press. It was reported by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette on Mar 24, 1965 that Westover was being moved to AM drive at WEEI after a year and a month on nights, so the math works for a 1964 hiring in Boston which would post-date the retirement of America's fabulous free-lance insurance investigator. In a 1965 KDKA history, published by U of Penn Press, it says Westover used to do an organ music program there in the 40s called "Organ Logs." I guess he was the Ken Wilson of the steel city. Westover had studied piano, organ and theory at the Eastman School of Music in Rochester. He joined KDKA in 1958 as a jock after a stint at KQV; his KDKA record show featured the bottom 40; songs he never received their due From 011010001@interpring.com Tue Nov 26 07:32:29 2013 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 07:32:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: WCRB On WCAI-HD@; Is This New? In-Reply-To: <5294243B.3000503@attorneyross.com> References: <20131124190627.298240@gmx.com> <5294243B.3000503@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: WFCC is owned by Cape Cod Broadcasting, along with WQRC, WOCN, and WKPE. And yes, WFCC is still classical. Rob On Mon, 25 Nov 2013, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 11/24/2013 2:06 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: > >> I don't know if this is new or I just noticed it, but WCRB 99.5 FM seejms >> to have added WCAI-FM HD2 Woods Hole, MA to its >> lengthy list of co-broadcasters. WCAI has a CP to increase its power, so by >> definition work is being >> done either on its current transmitter or a new one is being installed. >> Maybe they're involved in testing >> the new facility now that the objections raised by WCCT-FM appear to have >> been dismissed. > > Speaking of which, whatever happened to WFCC? I don't think it was sold > along with WCRB. Is it still a classical station? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > From lglavin@mail.com Tue Nov 26 15:33:45 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 15:33:45 -0500 Subject: Evolution 101.7 simulcast on WXKS-FM HD2 Message-ID: <20131126203345.96730@gmx.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bob Nelson >Sent: 11/26/13 12:18 PM >To: (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest >Subject: Evolution 101.7 simulcast on WXKS-FM HD2 >Someone on a messageboard noticed that WXKS FM 107.9's HD2 was no longer >carrying Matty's Comedy, the former format of WXKS 1200. That station >changed to Bloomberg, with a simulcast on the WJMN HD 2 signal. What's now >on 107.9 HD2 is CC's WEDX 101.7 Lynn, and the TOH ID even includes the HD 2 >for 107.9. >Could just be CC accenting its elec dance music format on a station where >the HD2 might carry it further, but one wonders if maybe they may try >something else on 101.7 and relegate the "EDM" to HD2. My guess is that >won't happen but the possibility does exist, however remote. Does WEDX ever have commercials? I have too weak a constitution to monitor the station myself, but I've tried around the top-of-the-hour and there may be one or two spots then but otherwise non-stop thump-thump-thump-thump-thump-thump-thump. CCM+E is trying to postpone payback of its BILLYUNS and BILLYUNS and BILLYUNS of dollars of debt, including presumably the $14 million dollars they overpaid for WFNX. From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Tue Nov 26 12:14:45 2013 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:14:45 -0500 Subject: All Xmas All Ready In-Reply-To: <8D0B8E1B4D994E6-FC8-7F360@webmail-m222.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D0B8E1B4D994E6-FC8-7F360@webmail-m222.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: 105.1 is WWLI. They haven't been WPJB since 1985. Paul On Tuesday, November 26, 2013, Mark Connelly wrote: > 105.1 is WPJB Providence. > > 98.7 WKFY in Chatham, MA has been running Christmas music at least a week > now. > > Mark Connelly > South Yarmouth, MA > > << > Last Friday whatever it is on 105.1 in metro Boston [lite soft rock or > such] went 100% Xmas. Is that a new record?? > >> >>> > From tony.abruzzese@gmail.com Tue Nov 26 13:17:12 2013 From: tony.abruzzese@gmail.com (Anthony Abruzzese) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 13:17:12 -0500 Subject: All Xmas All Ready In-Reply-To: <8D0B8E26EB9813C-FC8-7F417@webmail-m222.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D0B8E1B4D994E6-FC8-7F360@webmail-m222.sysops.aol.com> <8D0B8E26EB9813C-FC8-7F417@webmail-m222.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I remember a few years back that Oldies 103 went All Christmas before Veterans? Day. From: Mark Connelly Date: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM To: Cc: "boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org" Subject: Re: All Xmas All Ready Thanks Paul. -----Original Message----- From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. To: Mark Connelly Cc: boston-radio-interest Sent: Tue, Nov 26, 2013 12:14 pm Subject: Re: All Xmas All Ready 105.1 is WWLI. They haven't been WPJB since 1985. Paul On Tuesday, November 26, 2013, Mark Connelly wrote: 105.1 is WPJB Providence. 98.7 WKFY in Chatham, MA has been running Christmas music at least a week now. Mark Connelly South Yarmouth, MA << Last Friday whatever it is on 105.1 in metro Boston [lite soft rock or such] went 100% Xmas. Is that a new record?? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Nov 26 21:45:21 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 21:45:21 -0500 Subject: All Xmas All Ready In-Reply-To: References: <8D0B8E1B4D994E6-FC8-7F360@webmail-m222.sysops.aol.com> <8D0B8E26EB9813C-FC8-7F417@webmail-m222.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: The exact year was 2008. Both 103.3 and 105.7 flipped on Thursday, November 6; closer to election day than to Veteran's Day. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Anthony Abruzzese wrote: > I remember a few years back that Oldies 103 went All Christmas before > Veterans? Day. > > From: Mark Connelly > Date: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM > To: > Cc: "boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org" > > Subject: Re: All Xmas All Ready > > Thanks Paul. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. > To: Mark Connelly > Cc: boston-radio-interest > Sent: Tue, Nov 26, 2013 12:14 pm > Subject: Re: All Xmas All Ready > > > 105.1 is WWLI. They haven't been WPJB since 1985. > > > Paul > > On Tuesday, November 26, 2013, Mark Connelly wrote: > 105.1 is WPJB Providence. > > 98.7 WKFY in Chatham, MA has been running Christmas music at least a > week now. > > Mark Connelly > South Yarmouth, MA > > << > Last Friday whatever it is on 105.1 in metro Boston [lite soft rock or > such] went 100% Xmas. Is that a new record?? > > > > > > > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Nov 27 02:08:00 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 02:08:00 -0500 Subject: All Xmas All Ready In-Reply-To: <3a054b8b-6098-4b34-810a-ae397652db72@MERCURY.nescaum.org> References: <3a054b8b-6098-4b34-810a-ae397652db72@MERCURY.nescaum.org> Message-ID: <52959A50.3060103@attorneyross.com> On 11/26/2013 7:45 AM, George Allen wrote: > Last Friday whatever it is on 105.1 in metro Boston [lite soft rock or > such] went 100% Xmas. Is that a new record?? As I have observed in past years, every year we think that the Christmas season is starting earlier than ever. I remember first hearing that sometime in the 1950s. If the Christmas season really were starting earlier each year, it would by now be starting before the previous year's Christmas. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From 011010001@interpring.com Wed Nov 27 09:39:45 2013 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:39:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: <5293C202.6070207@attorneyross.com> References: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> <5293C202.6070207@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Nov 2013, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 11/23/2013 2:39 PM, Rob Landry wrote: >> Not "Concert Radio Boston", but "Charles River Broadcasting". The WCRB call >> letters were original (1948) and predated the classical format, which began >> in 1951. > And even after that, WCRB seems to have covered community events more than it > does now. I've seen a picture of a debate or some such between incumbent > Senator Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. and then-Congressman John F. Kennedy, in > connection with the 1952 election contest between them, with one of the > microphones labelled "WCRB." The late Dave MacNeill, long time news director/station manager/vice president at WCRB, recorded a lot of interviews over the years with actors, politicians, artists, musicians, etc. Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Wed Nov 27 09:54:18 2013 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:54:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: <52943F26.6040503@donnahalper.com> References: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> <5294221E.6040600@attorneyross.com> <52943F26.6040503@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: According to what Dave MacNeill told me, you are correct that the move to classical was gradual. Dave remembered doing play-by-play for high school football games early in his WCRB career. My understanding is that the move to classical was triggered by the demise of classical music on (WBMS? I forget) AM 1090, and unless I misremember, future program director, vice president, and chairman Richard L. Kaye was hired from there. Another factor, I was told, was the rise of television and the consequent obsolescence of old-fashioned network radio. The classical format was seen as a safe niche for a suburban station that could never compete head to head with the bigger signals. I seem to recall hearing that Richard joined in 1951 or 1952 and promptly began establishing WCRB's long time relationship with the BSO. He was behind WCRB's application for 102.5 FM, which signed on in (October?) 1954, and the subsequent stereo broadcasts using the AM for one channel and the FM for the other. I believe WBZ and WBZ-FM also did AM/FM stereo broadcasts. Rob On Tue, 26 Nov 2013, Donna Halper wrote: > On 11/25/2013 11:22 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: >> On 11/23/2013 2:39 PM, Rob Landry wrote: >> >>> Not "Concert Radio Boston", but "Charles River Broadcasting". The WCRB >>> call letters were original (1948) and predated the classical format, which >>> began in 1951. > > Actually, there's some evidence the 1951 date isn't accurate. I am looking at > program listings from their early days-- and in 1948-1949, they were your > basic Waltham-Newton AM station, with locally produced educational programs, > entertainment by local performers, announcers who played popular music, a > women's show, a jazz show, etc. Famous local entertainers like vocal duo > "Hum and Strum" performed live on WCRB too. But there's evidence that this > variety type of programming was phased out very gradually-- in fact, a Boston > Globe interview with Ted Jones in early November 1953 said he had finally > eliminated the last of the jazz and pop music programming, because the > listeners were very vocal about wanting only "good music"-- concert music, > semi-classical, and opera. WCRB-AM had been phasing in classical programming > since 1951, but the total change-over did not occur till November 8, 1953, > according to Jones. > From 011010001@interpring.com Wed Nov 27 10:04:40 2013 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 10:04:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: <69c8d4c8-733e-4d69-80d8-e12996792000@MERCURY.nescaum.org> References: <69c8d4c8-733e-4d69-80d8-e12996792000@MERCURY.nescaum.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Nov 2013, George Allen wrote: > Me also. Altho I spent some quality time there in the late 60s and > early 70s, I don't recall any pre-classical history. Did Ted Jones buy > the station or start it from scratch? Ted was hired as a salesman by the original owners, and ended up buying them out in partnership with one Stephen Paine, whom I never met. Paine was chairman when I was hired (December, 1985), and Ted was vice-chairman. Unfortunately for some of us, Ted never bought out Paine or his heirs, one of whom, I was told, used an obscure provision of state law to force the sale of WCRB to Greater Media in 2006, despite the provision in Ted's will that the station was not to be sold, nor the format changed from classical, for 100 years. For the stockholders the sale could not have been better timed. Greater Media paid $100 million for WCRB, but three years later Nassau sold the current WCRB 99.5 FM to WGBH for only $14 million. Rob From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Nov 27 13:03:51 2013 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:03:51 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: References: <69c8d4c8-733e-4d69-80d8-e12996792000@MERCURY.nescaum.org> Message-ID: <52963407.1030003@donnahalper.com> As I mentioned in an earlier e-mail, the pre-Ted Jones era was a time when WCRB tried to be just your typical post World War II local radio station, with a variety of popular music, local educators from the Newton-Waltham area, assorted guest speakers, religion, a jazz show, etc. If you looked at their typical lineup in the late 1940s, it might have had one or two classical shows, but nothing more. Evidently the station began phasing them in gradually in the early 50s, and listener response was so positive, according to Jones, that the switch to all-classical was made officially on 8 November 1953. From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Nov 27 13:07:39 2013 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:07:39 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: References: <69c8d4c8-733e-4d69-80d8-e12996792000@MERCURY.nescaum.org> Message-ID: <529634EB.2050808@donnahalper.com> As for WBMS ("World's Best Music Station"), it changed formats several times, and by mid-to-late 1953, it was playing black music and jazz (jazz piano great Sabby Lewis was on the air, and so was Symphony Sid). From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Wed Nov 27 13:27:27 2013 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:27:27 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago References: <69c8d4c8-733e-4d69-80d8-e12996792000@MERCURY.nescaum.org> <52963407.1030003@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <70B19EFF690D41139A7DE03C992FD7E0@Desktop> And this was WCRB-AM 1330....right? No FM involved at that time I assume. > As I mentioned in an earlier e-mail, the pre-Ted Jones era was a time > when WCRB tried to be just your typical post World War II local radio > station, with a variety of popular music, local educators from the > Newton-Waltham area, assorted guest speakers, religion, a jazz show, > etc. If you looked at their typical lineup in the late 1940s, it might > have had one or two classical shows, but nothing more. Evidently the > station began phasing them in gradually in the early 50s, and listener > response was so positive, according to Jones, that the switch to > all-classical was made officially on 8 November 1953. From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Nov 27 13:44:44 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:44:44 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: <70B19EFF690D41139A7DE03C992FD7E0@Desktop> References: <69c8d4c8-733e-4d69-80d8-e12996792000@MERCURY.nescaum.org> <52963407.1030003@donnahalper.com> <70B19EFF690D41139A7DE03C992FD7E0@Desktop> Message-ID: Jones bought WHAV-FM (102.5) in 1954 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Don wrote: > And this was WCRB-AM 1330....right? > No FM involved at that time I assume. > > > >> As I mentioned in an earlier e-mail, the pre-Ted Jones era was a time when >> WCRB tried to be just your typical post World War II local radio station, >> with a variety of popular music, local educators from the Newton-Waltham >> area, assorted guest speakers, religion, a jazz show, etc. If you looked at >> their typical lineup in the late 1940s, it might have had one or two >> classical shows, but nothing more. Evidently the station began phasing them >> in gradually in the early 50s, and listener response was so positive, >> according to Jones, that the switch to all-classical was made officially on >> 8 November 1953. From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Nov 27 15:35:49 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 15:35:49 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: References: <69c8d4c8-733e-4d69-80d8-e12996792000@MERCURY.nescaum.org> Message-ID: <21142.22437.82710.282331@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > For the stockholders the sale could not have been better timed. Greater > Media paid $100 million for WCRB, but three years later Nassau sold the > current WCRB 99.5 FM to WGBH for only $14 million. How much did Greater get from Nassau for 99.5 and the WCRB intellectual property/goodwill? That would help establish what the actual "stick value" of 102.5 was thought to be at the time. (Since Greater Media is a private company, there's no easy way to find out at what value they currently carry 102.5 on their books.) -GAWollman From 011010001@interpring.com Wed Nov 27 16:40:17 2013 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 16:40:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: <21142.22437.82710.282331@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <69c8d4c8-733e-4d69-80d8-e12996792000@MERCURY.nescaum.org> <21142.22437.82710.282331@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: The 2006 deal was a simple sale of Charles River Broadcasting to Greater Media for $100 million, and a simultaneous swap of 99.5 to Nassau in exchange for a station in the Philadelphia market. I believe Nassau also got some cash from Greater Media too. To this day the FCC Web site lists the licensee of WKLB as "CHARLES RIVER BROADCASTING COMPANY". Rob On Wed, 27 Nov 2013, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> For the stockholders the sale could not have been better timed. Greater >> Media paid $100 million for WCRB, but three years later Nassau sold the >> current WCRB 99.5 FM to WGBH for only $14 million. > > How much did Greater get from Nassau for 99.5 and the WCRB > intellectual property/goodwill? That would help establish what the > actual "stick value" of 102.5 was thought to be at the time. (Since > Greater Media is a private company, there's no easy way to find out at > what value they currently carry 102.5 on their books.) > > -GAWollman > From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Nov 27 17:17:22 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:17:22 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: References: <69c8d4c8-733e-4d69-80d8-e12996792000@MERCURY.nescaum.org> <21142.22437.82710.282331@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <21142.28530.306957.811809@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > The 2006 deal was a simple sale of Charles River Broadcasting to Greater > Media for $100 million, and a simultaneous swap of 99.5 to Nassau in > exchange for a station in the Philadelphia market. I believe Nassau also > got some cash from Greater Media too. Oh, right, now I remember... that was the 97.5 move-in from Trenton (the former WPST, which moved to 94.5, the old WCHR). And Greater has held onto the 97.5 so there's no way to find out how much it's worth, although now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure the sales contract (which I read at the time) stipulated the value of the two stations. I should probably do what I constantly advise other people to do and look it up. -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Nov 28 00:39:23 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 00:39:23 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: References: <8D0B5FE32BBCCF4-CA8-5EF79@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> <5294221E.6040600@attorneyross.com> <52943F26.6040503@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <5296D70B.60908@attorneyross.com> On 11/27/2013 9:54 AM, Rob Landry wrote: > I believe WBZ and WBZ-FM also did AM/FM stereo broadcasts. They had something on Sunday night called the Stereo Hour. I think it was at 7:00 PM and lasted for one hour. It began with the announcer explaining to people how to put an AM radio tuned to WBZ AM on one side and an FM radio tuned to WBZ-FM on the other. I suspect the hour was up before most people got the radios set up. I remember once listening with my grandfather, and since I already knew the drill, I set up the radios ahead of time. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From ssmyth@psualum.com Thu Nov 28 09:25:06 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 06:25:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Turkey Day football on the airwaves/Internet Message-ID: <1385648706.1639.YahooMailNeo@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> As always, I'm curious to see which stations air games. I know of a few here on the South Shore, including 95.9, 88.5 in Middleborough, and 1530 in Middleborough. One thing I did notice when looking at the game schedule in today's Globe (http://b.globe.com/1a6YHkn, if you didn't see it) is that a chunk of games are now airing via stream only. I'm assuming these operations must at least break even to keep on doing it. I wonder how difficult it is to sell ads; it's not like people can trip over it while dial-flipping, they have to seek out the stream specifically. From w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com Thu Nov 28 18:31:11 2013 From: w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com (Jon Maguire) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 18:31:11 -0500 Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago In-Reply-To: <5292EEE7.6020908@attorneyross.com> References: <237ec.399da2b9.3fc1950b@aol.com> <8D0B6E1A6C4B627-8C8-620B1@webmail-va021.sysops.aol.com> <5292EEE7.6020908@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <5297D23F.3010408@tampabay.rr.com> I worked at WCOP from '70 to '75 and as far as I recall, we carried NBC the whole time. But then the mind is the *second* thing to go :-) I remember recording a concert at the Greek Orthodox Church for NBC's Sound of Christmas series. I probably have the tape in my Warehouse 13. Jon Maguire WMEX/WCOP/WVMT alumni On 11/25/2013 1:32 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 11/23/2013 11:39 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > >> When did NBC move to WCOP? ( Red Sox 1967 World Series was on 1150) - >> I listened to Monitor in the mid 60's so somebody was clearing it. > > I'm not sure who was carrying NBC in the 1960s, but I don't think WEZE > was carrying much more than news and maybe the Jewish religious show > "The Eternal Light" on Sunday. I don't think WCOP began carrying NBC > until sometime in the early 1970s, but I could be mistaken. I wasn't > paying close attention to that at the time. > > I know that for awhile ABC was on WVDA/WEZE in the 1950s, and after > WEZE became the NBC affiliate (after WNAC dropped NBC), ABC was > carried on WTAO, and occasional evening ABC programs may have been > carried on sister station WXHR. Also, Mutual was on WORL for awhile > in the late 50s or early 60s, after WNAC dropped it. > From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Nov 29 16:18:16 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 16:18:16 -0500 Subject: Turkey Day football on the airwaves/Internet In-Reply-To: <1385648706.1639.YahooMailNeo@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1385648706.1639.YahooMailNeo@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <21145.1176.958861.1433@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > One thing I did notice when looking at the game schedule in today's > Globe (http://b.globe.com/1a6YHkn, if you didn't see it) is that a > chunk of games are now airing via stream only. I'm assuming these > operations must at least break even to keep on doing it. I wonder > how difficult it is to sell ads; it's not like people can trip over > it while dial-flipping, they have to seek out the stream > specifically. Wouldn't you expect most of the audience of such a broadcast to be parents of children in those schools? In which case, there are ample means to promote the broadcasts, through the schools' Web sites and parent mailing-lists. -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Nov 30 00:42:10 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 00:42:10 -0500 Subject: Turkey Day football on the airwaves/Internet In-Reply-To: <21145.1176.958861.1433@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <1385648706.1639.YahooMailNeo@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <21145.1176.958861.1433@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <52997AB2.1090207@attorneyross.com> On 11/29/2013 4:18 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Wouldn't you expect most of the audience of such a broadcast to be > parents of children in those schools? In which case, there are ample > means to promote the broadcasts, through the schools' Web sites and > parent mailing-lists. Or maybe other students in those schools who can't attend the game for one reason or other. Which means that, in addition to the methods you mention to promote the broadcasts, there is also posters in the school and announcements on the PA system (if they still do that nowadays) or other in-school promotion. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com