From dan.strassberg@att.net  Sat Mar  2 04:40:11 2013
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 04:40:11 -0500
Subject: 17 years
Message-ID: <C20F8D3F88A045FF9A176E20DE67A416@SatU205S5044>

In the latest issue of NERW, Scott refers to 17 years since Bloomberg has
had a Boston outlet--or did I read it incorrectly? But if I read it right,
I'm assuming that Scott must have been talking about 590 back when it had
the WBNW calls and was owned by Peter Ottmar's Back Bay Broadcasting (after
CBS, but--I guess--before the Celtics).

First of all, what were the years in which Ottmar owned 590 and what was the
chronology of ownership of 590 (who owned it in what years)?

Second, I don't remember hearing Bloomberg on 590 when it was WBNW and was
doing financial news/talk. 17 years ago would have been 1996, right? IIRC,
1130 in New York had become WBBR (under Bloomberg ownership) and started
financial news/talk in late 1992. If all that is correct, 590 certainly
could have carried a Bloomberg feed in 1996. But did it?

Also, I would agree with Scott that 1120 (which now has the WBNW calls)
really isn't a Boston signal. But if you count 1120 as a Boston signal, it
has carried some Bloomberg programming much more recently than 17 years
ago--probably as recently as last year and maybe even currently. For several
months at the start of that fairly recent period, problems with the
satellite feed made listening essentially impossible. BAD radio, indeed!

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367


From bob.bosra@demattia.net  Sat Mar  2 07:33:07 2013
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 07:33:07 -0500
Subject: 17 years
In-Reply-To: <C20F8D3F88A045FF9A176E20DE67A416@SatU205S5044>
References: <C20F8D3F88A045FF9A176E20DE67A416@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <CAMQUtR-8GjpgxNr10wdkZ9S9pyh+GXGYG28bS1Coz71pj=u84g@mail.gmail.com>

Ottman bought 590 from ARS in August, 1994 and sold it to Salem in
December 1996.

This article provides a good chronology of the 590 frequency:
http://www.bostonradio.org/stations/3594.html


-Bob


On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Dan.Strassberg <dan.strassberg@att.net>wrote:

> In the latest issue of NERW, Scott refers to 17 years since Bloomberg has
> had a Boston outlet--or did I read it incorrectly? But if I read it right,
> I'm assuming that Scott must have been talking about 590 back when it had
> the WBNW calls and was owned by Peter Ottmar's Back Bay Broadcasting (after
> CBS, but--I guess--before the Celtics).
>
> First of all, what were the years in which Ottmar owned 590 and what was
> the
> chronology of ownership of 590 (who owned it in what years)?
>
> Second, I don't remember hearing Bloomberg on 590 when it was WBNW and was
> doing financial news/talk. 17 years ago would have been 1996, right? IIRC,
> 1130 in New York had become WBBR (under Bloomberg ownership) and started
> financial news/talk in late 1992. If all that is correct, 590 certainly
> could have carried a Bloomberg feed in 1996. But did it?
>
> Also, I would agree with Scott that 1120 (which now has the WBNW calls)
> really isn't a Boston signal. But if you count 1120 as a Boston signal, it
> has carried some Bloomberg programming much more recently than 17 years
> ago--probably as recently as last year and maybe even currently. For
> several
> months at the start of that fairly recent period, problems with the
> satellite feed made listening essentially impossible. BAD radio, indeed!
>
> -----
> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
> eFax 1-707-215-6367
>
>

From ssmyth@psualum.com  Sat Mar  2 08:06:15 2013
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (ssmyth@psualum.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 05:06:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 17 years
Message-ID: <1362229575.41335.iosMobile@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Ottmar bought the stick from the Celtics group. <br/><br/>Sent from my iPhone

From dlh@donnahalper.com  Sat Mar  2 13:33:43 2013
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 13:33:43 -0500
Subject: Donna is very puzzled
In-Reply-To: <C20F8D3F88A045FF9A176E20DE67A416@SatU205S5044>
References: <C20F8D3F88A045FF9A176E20DE67A416@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <51324607.5040301@donnahalper.com>

I just received an e-mail announcement that Charles Clemons is about to 
mount a run for mayor of the city of Boston.  Among his accomplishments, 
he lists himself as founder of Touch 106.1 ... Okay fine, it's a popular 
little community station,  and I know a lot of people in 
Roxbury/Dorchester/Mattapan who love it.  But isn't it still considered 
a Pirate station?  Back when all of us Baby Boomers were growing up and 
the FCC actually did its job, one would not necessarily be able to run a 
pirate station for very long.  Was this station ever transformed into a 
legal station?  If not, will this present problems in Mr. Clemons' 
effort to become mayor of Boston?

From kvahey@gmail.com  Sat Mar  2 14:30:38 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 14:30:38 -0500
Subject: Donna is very puzzled
In-Reply-To: <51324607.5040301@donnahalper.com>
References: <C20F8D3F88A045FF9A176E20DE67A416@SatU205S5044>
	<51324607.5040301@donnahalper.com>
Message-ID: <CABnTNsO0J9uemPw5iOsP9m5-3+F13QFYN9Xv8Y_2A7qZu+Qkfg@mail.gmail.com>

The station has friends with 2 members of Congress and Mumbles.

On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Donna Halper <dlh@donnahalper.com> wrote:

> I just received an e-mail announcement that Charles Clemons is about to
> mount a run for mayor of the city of Boston.  Among his accomplishments, he
> lists himself as founder of Touch 106.1 ... Okay fine, it's a popular
> little community station,  and I know a lot of people in
> Roxbury/Dorchester/Mattapan who love it.  But isn't it still considered a
> Pirate station?  Back when all of us Baby Boomers were growing up and the
> FCC actually did its job, one would not necessarily be able to run a pirate
> station for very long.  Was this station ever transformed into a legal
> station?  If not, will this present problems in Mr. Clemons' effort to
> become mayor of Boston?
>

From gary@garysicecream.com  Sat Mar  2 15:07:43 2013
From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 15:07:43 -0500
Subject: Donna is very puzzled
In-Reply-To: <51324607.5040301@donnahalper.com>
References: <C20F8D3F88A045FF9A176E20DE67A416@SatU205S5044>
	<51324607.5040301@donnahalper.com>
Message-ID: <054701ce1781$9a206f40$ce614dc0$@garysicecream.com>

So his opposition has a built in campaign........"Would you elect a
criminal?"


                    Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA
www.garysicecream.com           www.icecreamcollege.com





-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
Donna Halper
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 1:34 PM
To: Dan.Strassberg
Cc: Boston Radio Interest
Subject: Donna is very puzzled

I just received an e-mail announcement that Charles Clemons is about to
mount a run for mayor of the city of Boston.  Among his accomplishments, he
lists himself as founder of Touch 106.1 ... Okay fine, it's a popular little
community station,  and I know a lot of people in
Roxbury/Dorchester/Mattapan who love it.  But isn't it still considered a
Pirate station?  Back when all of us Baby Boomers were growing up and the
FCC actually did its job, one would not necessarily be able to run a pirate
station for very long.  Was this station ever transformed into a legal
station?  If not, will this present problems in Mr. Clemons' 
effort to become mayor of Boston?


From billohno@gmail.com  Sat Mar  2 17:05:55 2013
From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 17:05:55 -0500
Subject: Donna is very puzzled
In-Reply-To: <51324607.5040301@donnahalper.com>
References: <C20F8D3F88A045FF9A176E20DE67A416@SatU205S5044>
	<51324607.5040301@donnahalper.com>
Message-ID: <d34293e0-cbb3-47dc-ba5e-e0dd82fe7ad1@email.android.com>



Donna queries:  

Was this station ever transformed into a
>
>legal station?  If not, will this present problems in Mr. Clemons' 
>effort to become mayor of Boston?

Illegal activity impacting successful political gains? Positively. At least he won't be accused of bait and switch.  ,Although, if the Chief executive of the City of Boston has unabashedly violated federal law, on what moral or ethical basis would he enforce any city ordinances? And, for that matter, on what basis would he obey them himself? 

Bill O'Neill 

-- 
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

From sids1045@aol.com  Sat Mar  2 17:22:40 2013
From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 17:22:40 -0500
Subject: Donna is very puzzled
In-Reply-To: <d34293e0-cbb3-47dc-ba5e-e0dd82fe7ad1@email.android.com>
References: <C20F8D3F88A045FF9A176E20DE67A416@SatU205S5044>
	<51324607.5040301@donnahalper.com>
	<d34293e0-cbb3-47dc-ba5e-e0dd82fe7ad1@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <16EF727D-73F3-40EB-9CA2-687A3952F7F2@aol.com>

"if the Chief executive of the City of Boston has unabashedly violated federal law, on what moral or ethical basis would he enforce any city ordinances?"

Three words:  James Michael Curley.


From ssmyth@psualum.com  Sat Mar  2 16:55:21 2013
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (ssmyth@psualum.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 13:55:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Donna is very puzzled
Message-ID: <1362261321.17507.iosMobile@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

And yet he's running against Menino, who probably will seek re-election? That makes zero sense. <br/><br/>Sent from my iPhone

From joe@attorneyross.com  Sat Mar  2 21:25:37 2013
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross)
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 21:25:37 -0500
Subject: Donna is very puzzled
In-Reply-To: <51324607.5040301@donnahalper.com>
References: <C20F8D3F88A045FF9A176E20DE67A416@SatU205S5044>
	<51324607.5040301@donnahalper.com>
Message-ID: <5132B4A1.3080104@attorneyross.com>

On 3/2/2013 1:33 PM, Donna Halper wrote:

> I just received an e-mail announcement that Charles Clemons is about 
> to mount a run for mayor of the city of Boston.  Among his 
> accomplishments, he lists himself as founder of Touch 106.1 ... Okay 
> fine, it's a popular little community station,  and I know a lot of 
> people in Roxbury/Dorchester/Mattapan who love it.  But isn't it still 
> considered a Pirate station?  Back when all of us Baby Boomers were 
> growing up and the FCC actually did its job, one would not necessarily 
> be able to run a pirate station for very long.  Was this station ever 
> transformed into a legal station?  If not, will this present problems 
> in Mr. Clemons' effort to become mayor of Boston?

My guess is it may bring the station to the attention of the FCC, which 
will force it to crack down.  That in turn may give Clemons some media 
attention that he might not otherwise have.

I wonder whether he's any relation to Samuel Clemons.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004
617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com


From kvahey@gmail.com  Sat Mar  2 22:57:30 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 22:57:30 -0500
Subject: Donna is very puzzled
In-Reply-To: <5132B4A1.3080104@attorneyross.com>
References: <C20F8D3F88A045FF9A176E20DE67A416@SatU205S5044>
	<51324607.5040301@donnahalper.com>
	<5132B4A1.3080104@attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <CABnTNsNd5PHHc65mB2kevWn6n-SSYCh_GO7+6S=t0MitO-rMeg@mail.gmail.com>

The FCC knows about them.  WROR doesn't seem to mind.

They certainly are not hiding.

http://touchfm.org/about-us/

On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:25 PM, A Joseph Ross <joe@attorneyross.com> wrote:

> On 3/2/2013 1:33 PM, Donna Halper wrote:
>
>  I just received an e-mail announcement that Charles Clemons is about to
>> mount a run for mayor of the city of Boston.  Among his accomplishments, he
>> lists himself as founder of Touch 106.1 ... Okay fine, it's a popular
>> little community station,  and I know a lot of people in
>> Roxbury/Dorchester/Mattapan who love it.  But isn't it still considered a
>> Pirate station?  Back when all of us Baby Boomers were growing up and the
>> FCC actually did its job, one would not necessarily be able to run a pirate
>> station for very long.  Was this station ever transformed into a legal
>> station?  If not, will this present problems in Mr. Clemons' effort to
>> become mayor of Boston?
>>
>
> My guess is it may bring the station to the attention of the FCC, which
> will force it to crack down.  That in turn may give Clemons some media
> attention that he might not otherwise have.
>
> I wonder whether he's any relation to Samuel Clemons.
>
> --
> A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004
> 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com
>
>

From hopfgarten@mail.com  Sat Mar  2 19:11:09 2013
From: hopfgarten@mail.com (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 19:11:09 -0500
Subject: Donna is very puzzled
In-Reply-To: <1362261321.17507.iosMobile@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1362261321.17507.iosMobile@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B0207A4804BC41CF921EFCCF0DECFC95@PaulPC>

I believe there as been at least one other that has announced. My guess is 
Mumbles is mumbling about not running again...

-----Original Message----- 
From: ssmyth@psualum.com
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 4:55 PM
To: kvahey@gmail.com
Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org
Subject: Re: Donna is very puzzled

And yet he's running against Menino, who probably will seek re-election? 
That makes zero sense. <br/><br/>Sent from my iPhone 


From mward@iname.com  Sat Mar  2 23:17:55 2013
From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 23:17:55 -0500
Subject: Station IDs (Was Re: WBUR's L-O-N-G Station ID)
In-Reply-To: <20782.54117.264705.567828@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <1362005136.38419.YahooMailClassic@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<20782.54117.264705.567828@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <CAEZgpYNP7YOHeL7pYmw1XzqYTw2C_EhgyNff45=gjY0hqZOv0A@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org>wrote:

> There was a time when the FCC explicitly allowed stations to have
>  multiple communities of license.  This was abolished long in the past.
> (I suspect this was no later than the time of Docket 80-90, but
> haven't checked the old rules to see.)  The station had to meet the
> community-service rules as then existed for both communities, but in
> exchange was allowed to have its main studio in either one.  Of
> course, both communities had to be mentioned, and if you go back far
> enough, mentioning any other community as a part of the station ID was
> prohibited.
>

Around these parts, WJER/1450 is still licensed to Dover-New Philadelphia.
(Though in CDBS, it cuts off the "IA".)

From wollman@bimajority.org  Sat Mar  2 23:21:21 2013
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 23:21:21 -0500
Subject: Station IDs (Was Re: WBUR's L-O-N-G Station ID)
In-Reply-To: <20130228190537.170060@gmx.com>
References: <20130228190537.170060@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <20786.53185.628024.134066@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:05:37 -0500, "Laurence Glavin" <lglavin@mail.com> said:

[my original text deleted, as Laurence's mail client seems to have
trouble not mangling the format]

> It seems to me that Albany-Schenectady would not exactly be a
> hyphenated community. Dover-Foxcroft in Maine and Winston-Salem in
> North Carolina WOULD BE.

No.  Dover-Foxcroft and Winston-Salem are communities of license that
happen to have hyphens in them, but they are not hyphenated
communities in the manner of the Table of Allocations for analog
television, which had "Albany-Schenectady" and might have had "New
Bedford-Providence" if the then-owners of WLNE had gotten their way.
I'm not sure what criteria the FCC used for allowing such allotments
or not, but they were, as I noted upthread, treated as an either-or
for license applications.  (WLNE's proposal was to reallot channels 6,
10, and 12 to "New Bedford-Providence" or "Providence-New Bedford",
which would have then allowed it to apply for a CP to "move" to
Providence.)

-GAWollman


From markwats@comcast.net  Sun Mar  3 18:08:25 2013
From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson)
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 18:08:25 -0500
Subject: Former Boston TV Sportscaster Bill O'Connell Has Passed
Message-ID: <EED74DB7DA19431D870FD19C2E3564AD@MarkOTS3>

Former Boston TV Sportscaster Bill O'Connell passed away in Florida on Feb.25th at the age of 81. He was a sports anchor/reporter for both Channel 5's, then on WNEV Channel 7 and finally at WLVI-56 when they restarted a 10PM newscast in 1984. After his TV career he moved into radio, working at WFCC in Chatham and WPLM in Plymouth.

Link to the Boston Globe obituary:

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/bostonglobe/obituary.aspx?pid=163331884#fbLoggedOut

Mark Watson

From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com  Sun Mar  3 00:13:53 2013
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 00:13:53 -0500
Subject: Station IDs (Was Re: WBUR's L-O-N-G Station ID)
References: <1362005136.38419.YahooMailClassic@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><20782.54117.264705.567828@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<CAEZgpYNP7YOHeL7pYmw1XzqYTw2C_EhgyNff45=gjY0hqZOv0A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62382EE561EB496280660FDC81D7C50E@s20035>



>> There was a time when the FCC explicitly allowed stations to have
>>  multiple communities of license.  

WLLH was always Lowell +and+ Lawrence.

"America's only station transmitting from 2 cities"  (At the time anyway)



From heritageradio@msn.com  Tue Mar  5 16:28:50 2013
From: heritageradio@msn.com (Thomas Heathwood)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 16:28:50 -0500
Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 17, Issue 56
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Clicking on messages does nothing.  Cannot read.      <<Tom>>      3.5.13
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From wollman@bimajority.org  Sat Mar  9 00:37:23 2013
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 00:37:23 -0500
Subject: Spring Training on TV
Message-ID: <20794.51859.730320.414901@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

To distract ourselves from the two feet of snow in our yards after
Friday's storm, let's cast our minds toward Fort Myers.  I watched the
Sox-Twins pre-season game today on NESN[1], and thought it unusual the
way they produced one broadcast for both teams' networks (NESN and Fox
Sports North), with the play-by-play men taking turns every two
innings or so.  It's obviously easy to do that when both teams are
based in the same city, but have they ever done this before?  I don't
recall ever seeing it.  I wonder if the Minnesota fans found it as
strange as I did, and what thought of Orsillo and Remy.

-GAWollman

[1] Well, on my TiVo which recorded it off NESN on Friday evening.


From ssmyth@psualum.com  Sat Mar  9 03:19:31 2013
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (ssmyth@psualum.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 00:19:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Spring Training on TV
Message-ID: <1362817171.1779.iosMobile@web142703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

It was confusing. I didn't know what was going on when I first tuned in during the middle innings. Any particular reason for that joint production? Never heard one. <br/><br/>Sent from my iPhone

From m_carney@yahoo.com  Sat Mar  9 05:17:46 2013
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 02:17:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Spring Training on TV
In-Reply-To: <1362817171.1779.iosMobile@web142703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1362817171.1779.iosMobile@web142703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1362824266.96140.YahooMailNeo@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

They did it last Friday as well with the Pittsburgh Pirates broadcast team.

From kvahey@gmail.com  Sat Mar  9 01:55:24 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 01:55:24 -0500
Subject: Spring Training on TV
In-Reply-To: <20794.51859.730320.414901@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <20794.51859.730320.414901@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <CABnTNsNcJY8_LkgnO5tSWyEFusYJWM+1+OitRhXT+HRjNfRHPQ@mail.gmail.com>

They are doing it for several games this year. Saves the cost of a
second HD truck and crew.

On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org> wrote:
> To distract ourselves from the two feet of snow in our yards after
> Friday's storm, let's cast our minds toward Fort Myers.  I watched the
> Sox-Twins pre-season game today on NESN[1], and thought it unusual the
> way they produced one broadcast for both teams' networks (NESN and Fox
> Sports North), with the play-by-play men taking turns every two
> innings or so.  It's obviously easy to do that when both teams are
> based in the same city, but have they ever done this before?  I don't
> recall ever seeing it.  I wonder if the Minnesota fans found it as
> strange as I did, and what thought of Orsillo and Remy.
>
> -GAWollman
>
> [1] Well, on my TiVo which recorded it off NESN on Friday evening.
>

From ssmyth@psualum.com  Sat Mar  9 09:42:48 2013
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (ssmyth@psualum.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 06:42:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Spring Training on TV
Message-ID: <1362840168.20528.iosMobile@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Last night was not an MLB Network game. They're tied up now doing the World Baseball Classic, and often their spring training games are an RSN simulcast anyway. <br/><br/>It does make sense to save cash, but I think they should tell the viewers this every inning or so, because people tune in and out. <br/><br/>Sox are still airing nowhere near as many spring games as YES (saw they will air 19 in all). <br/>

From ssmyth@psualum.com  Sat Mar  9 09:48:45 2013
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (ssmyth@psualum.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 06:48:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Spring Training on TV
Message-ID: <1362840525.74706.iosMobile@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

The Orioles and Nats (MASN airs both) do this when they play their regular season series. Would it be that much more expensive to have separate audio feeds? Even when MSG and FSNY aired Yankees-Mets and Cablevision owned both teams' rights, I think they were crewed separately. 

From tony.abruzzese@gmail.com  Sat Mar  9 09:01:29 2013
From: tony.abruzzese@gmail.com (Anthony Abruzzese)
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 09:01:29 -0500
Subject: Spring Training on TV
In-Reply-To: <1362824266.96140.YahooMailNeo@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CD60AAD9.1EB1B%tony.abruzzese@gmail.com>

When Orsillo returned for the 6th inning, the during the voice over they
showed showed the tropical looking MLB "Spring Training" logo on which both
Arizona and Florida are mentioned. Was this a MLB network game, as well?
Also, production on both games seems to have been done by the other teams TV
crews. Last Friday's graphics were definitely a Pirates package (colors,
etc.) and last nights game was a Fox production Score bug
Intro-outro music, with the Fox graphics.

I am assuming that NESN is partnering with some of these teams for
production so that they can bring more games without having to compromise on
Bruins coverage back home, as well as save some money.  It would be a
smaller investment in trying to stir up interest in the '13 Sox to partner
in some games than house a full blown production crew in Florida for a few
extra games.  The agreements would be the similar to most of the TV coverage
of the PawSox away games , where NESN picks up the local feed for the home
team.

Tony


From:  Maureen Carney <m_carney@yahoo.com>
Reply-To:  Maureen Carney <m_carney@yahoo.com>
Date:  Saturday, March 9, 2013 5:17 AM
To:  "ssmyth@psualum.com" <ssmyth@psualum.com>, "wollman@bimajority.org"
<wollman@bimajority.org>, "boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org"
<boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Subject:  Re: Spring Training on TV

They did it last Friday as well with the Pittsburgh Pirates broadcast team.




From kvahey@gmail.com  Sat Mar  9 11:50:43 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:50:43 -0500
Subject: Spring Training on TV
In-Reply-To: <CD60AAD9.1EB1B%tony.abruzzese@gmail.com>
References: <1362824266.96140.YahooMailNeo@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<CD60AAD9.1EB1B%tony.abruzzese@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABnTNsPxax5-wcq5WU1D_Jxv7ua8Dkhzn7sviPF8ywG-U_fodA@mail.gmail.com>

The main reason was this is the busiest period of the year for TV
production truck rentals with all the college basketball finals.

The split feed made it easier for NEP which is NESN's vendor to do this.

Cost was the other factor as Red Sox ad inventory for spring is not
selling.

On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Anthony Abruzzese
<tony.abruzzese@gmail.com>wrote:

> When Orsillo returned for the 6th inning, the during the voice over they
> showed showed the tropical looking MLB "Spring Training" logo on which both
> Arizona and Florida are mentioned. Was this a MLB network game, as well?
> Also, production on both games seems to have been done by the other teams
> TV
> crews. Last Friday's graphics were definitely a Pirates package (colors,
> etc.) and last nights game was a Fox production Score bug
> Intro-outro music, with the Fox graphics.
>
> I am assuming that NESN is partnering with some of these teams for
> production so that they can bring more games without having to compromise
> on
> Bruins coverage back home, as well as save some money.  It would be a
> smaller investment in trying to stir up interest in the '13 Sox to partner
> in some games than house a full blown production crew in Florida for a few
> extra games.  The agreements would be the similar to most of the TV
> coverage
> of the PawSox away games , where NESN picks up the local feed for the home
> team.
>
> Tony
>
>
> From:  Maureen Carney <m_carney@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To:  Maureen Carney <m_carney@yahoo.com>
> Date:  Saturday, March 9, 2013 5:17 AM
> To:  "ssmyth@psualum.com" <ssmyth@psualum.com>, "wollman@bimajority.org"
> <wollman@bimajority.org>, "boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org"
> <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
> Subject:  Re: Spring Training on TV
>
> They did it last Friday as well with the Pittsburgh Pirates broadcast team.
>
>
>
>

From rbello@belloassoc.com  Sat Mar  9 13:50:48 2013
From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello)
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 13:50:48 -0500
Subject: Spring Training on TV
In-Reply-To: <CABnTNsPxax5-wcq5WU1D_Jxv7ua8Dkhzn7sviPF8ywG-U_fodA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1362824266.96140.YahooMailNeo@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<CD60AAD9.1EB1B%tony.abruzzese@gmail.com>
	<CABnTNsPxax5-wcq5WU1D_Jxv7ua8Dkhzn7sviPF8ywG-U_fodA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHf+2NyuDj+YUqC8Erfx9iP0Qd3RdaTwn0OfZ2_dWnC5xdfdFg@mail.gmail.com>

Last Friday's Boston Globe sports media column was about these
co-productions

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/03/01/nesn-will-share-broadcasters-spring-sox-games-with-other-sports-networks/aIauD8MFRnoatuBoUPlxdK/story.html



On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Kevin Vahey <kvahey@gmail.com> wrote:

> The main reason was this is the busiest period of the year for TV
> production truck rentals with all the college basketball finals.
>
> The split feed made it easier for NEP which is NESN's vendor to do this.
>
> Cost was the other factor as Red Sox ad inventory for spring is not
> selling.
>
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Anthony Abruzzese
> <tony.abruzzese@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > When Orsillo returned for the 6th inning, the during the voice over they
> > showed showed the tropical looking MLB "Spring Training" logo on which
> both
> > Arizona and Florida are mentioned. Was this a MLB network game, as well?
> > Also, production on both games seems to have been done by the other teams
> > TV
> > crews. Last Friday's graphics were definitely a Pirates package (colors,
> > etc.) and last nights game was a Fox production Score bug
> > Intro-outro music, with the Fox graphics.
> >
> > I am assuming that NESN is partnering with some of these teams for
> > production so that they can bring more games without having to compromise
> > on
> > Bruins coverage back home, as well as save some money.  It would be a
> > smaller investment in trying to stir up interest in the '13 Sox to
> partner
> > in some games than house a full blown production crew in Florida for a
> few
> > extra games.  The agreements would be the similar to most of the TV
> > coverage
> > of the PawSox away games , where NESN picks up the local feed for the
> home
> > team.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> > From:  Maureen Carney <m_carney@yahoo.com>
> > Reply-To:  Maureen Carney <m_carney@yahoo.com>
> > Date:  Saturday, March 9, 2013 5:17 AM
> > To:  "ssmyth@psualum.com" <ssmyth@psualum.com>, "wollman@bimajority.org"
> > <wollman@bimajority.org>, "boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org"
> > <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
> > Subject:  Re: Spring Training on TV
> >
> > They did it last Friday as well with the Pittsburgh Pirates broadcast
> team.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

From mward@iname.com  Sat Mar  9 08:54:35 2013
From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward)
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 08:54:35 -0500
Subject: Spring Training on TV
In-Reply-To: <1362824266.96140.YahooMailNeo@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1362817171.1779.iosMobile@web142703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<1362824266.96140.YahooMailNeo@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEZgpYP8Jb0O6AxOc3o1sb1_Ukd3sEBZ5TcvQNYrpBF2nd5-Ww@mail.gmail.com>

The Indians have done this with other teams in Spring Training.

I think they share broadcasts with the Reds and maybe one other team about
twice or three times a year...and since the Indians TV home, SportsTime
Ohio, is now officially owned by Fox Sports (rightsholder for the Reds), I
expect more in the future.


On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Maureen Carney <m_carney@yahoo.com> wrote:

> They did it last Friday as well with the Pittsburgh Pirates broadcast team.
>

From kvahey@gmail.com  Sat Mar  9 17:08:18 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 17:08:18 -0500
Subject: Spring Training on TV
In-Reply-To: <CAEZgpYP8Jb0O6AxOc3o1sb1_Ukd3sEBZ5TcvQNYrpBF2nd5-Ww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1362817171.1779.iosMobile@web142703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<1362824266.96140.YahooMailNeo@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<CAEZgpYP8Jb0O6AxOc3o1sb1_Ukd3sEBZ5TcvQNYrpBF2nd5-Ww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABnTNsND0LQiT6yyZ75vQ50V5C-wP2dSGVnQ2aZO0O_OC3p_Cw@mail.gmail.com>

NESN tried just doing SD from Florida until last year but viewers
complained.

There simply are not enough HD trucks to handle everything


On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Mike Ward <mward@iname.com> wrote:

> The Indians have done this with other teams in Spring Training.
>
> I think they share broadcasts with the Reds and maybe one other team about
> twice or three times a year...and since the Indians TV home, SportsTime
> Ohio, is now officially owned by Fox Sports (rightsholder for the Reds), I
> expect more in the future.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Maureen Carney <m_carney@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > They did it last Friday as well with the Pittsburgh Pirates broadcast
> team.
> >
>

From joe@attorneyross.com  Sat Mar  9 22:56:40 2013
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross)
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:56:40 -0500
Subject: Spring Training on TV
In-Reply-To: <20794.51859.730320.414901@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <20794.51859.730320.414901@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <513C0478.6010506@attorneyross.com>

On 3/9/2013 12:37 AM, Garrett Wollman wrote:

> To distract ourselves from the two feet of snow in our yards after
> Friday's storm, let's cast our minds toward Fort Myers.  I watched the
> Sox-Twins pre-season game today on NESN[1], and thought it unusual the
> way they produced one broadcast for both teams' networks (NESN and Fox
> Sports North), with the play-by-play men taking turns every two
> innings or so.  It's obviously easy to do that when both teams are
> based in the same city, but have they ever done this before?  I don't
> recall ever seeing it.  I wonder if the Minnesota fans found it as
> strange as I did, and what thought of Orsillo and Remy.
>
> -GAWollman
>
> [1] Well, on my TiVo which recorded it off NESN on Friday evening.

When the Braves were in Boston, did they ever play exhibition games 
against each other?  And if so, was anything like what Garrett describes 
done?

I seem to remember one farewell game played between Red Sox and Braves 
just before the Braves left town.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004
617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com


From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net  Mon Mar 11 07:51:20 2013
From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook)
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 07:51:20 -0400
Subject: WBUR's L-O-N-G Station ID
In-Reply-To: <5129B2DD.10009@attorneyross.com>
References: <20130221230210.26290@gmx.com>
	<20776.16343.149187.628630@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<161976F5-406C-4405-8D32-21003F2ED395@comcast.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20130223083113.03da5db0@plymouthcolony.net>
	<5129B2DD.10009@attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20130311074423.03bab8b0@plymouthcolony.net>

The Commission is still enforcing the regs concerning legal IDs, as this NoV demonstrates:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-319240A1.pdf

Perhaps they are looking for new revenue sources, and perhaps we will see more of this. Note that this was initiated by a complaint, but the NoV does not state from whom.

Dale H. Cook, Market Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html 


From wollman@bimajority.org  Mon Mar 11 23:51:59 2013
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:51:59 -0400
Subject: WBUR's L-O-N-G Station ID
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20130311074423.03bab8b0@plymouthcolony.net>
References: <20130221230210.26290@gmx.com>
	<20776.16343.149187.628630@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<161976F5-406C-4405-8D32-21003F2ED395@comcast.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20130223083113.03da5db0@plymouthcolony.net>
	<5129B2DD.10009@attorneyross.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20130311074423.03bab8b0@plymouthcolony.net>
Message-ID: <20798.42591.164345.413499@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 07:51:20 -0400, "Dale H. Cook" <radiotest@plymouthcolony.net> said:

> The Commission is still enforcing the regs concerning legal IDs, as
> this NoV demonstrates:
> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-319240A1.pdf

> Perhaps they are looking for new revenue sources, and perhaps we
> will see more of this. Note that this was initiated by a complaint,
> but the NoV does not state from whom.

It would most likely have been a competitor[1] or a former employee --
no ordinary member of the public would complain about a legal-ID
violation.  It's a pity the notice doesn't actually specify the date
and time at which the Enforcement Bureau monitored the station.

I'm sure someone will have gotten slapped by Clear Channel corporate
as a result of it, at any rate.

-GAWollman

[1] Or Jerry Del Colliano, I suppose.

From joe@attorneyross.com  Tue Mar 12 00:24:25 2013
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:24:25 -0400
Subject: WBUR's L-O-N-G Station ID
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20130311074423.03bab8b0@plymouthcolony.net>
References: <20130221230210.26290@gmx.com>
	<20776.16343.149187.628630@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<161976F5-406C-4405-8D32-21003F2ED395@comcast.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20130223083113.03da5db0@plymouthcolony.net>
	<5129B2DD.10009@attorneyross.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20130311074423.03bab8b0@plymouthcolony.net>
Message-ID: <513EADF9.2010905@attorneyross.com>

On 3/11/2013 7:51 AM, Dale H. Cook wrote:

> The Commission is still enforcing the regs concerning legal IDs, as this NoV demonstrates:
>
> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-319240A1.pdf
>
> Perhaps they are looking for new revenue sources, and perhaps we will see more of this. Note that this was initiated by a complaint, but the NoV does not state from whom.

That's a pretty blatant violation.  It amounts to no legal ID at all -- 
though I note that the NOV does not specify when or how long the station 
was monitored.  Presumably it was monitored some time around the top of 
the hour.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004
617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com


From wollman@bimajority.org  Tue Mar 12 00:31:04 2013
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:31:04 -0400
Subject: WBUR's L-O-N-G Station ID
In-Reply-To: <513EADF9.2010905@attorneyross.com>
References: <20130221230210.26290@gmx.com>
	<20776.16343.149187.628630@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<161976F5-406C-4405-8D32-21003F2ED395@comcast.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20130223083113.03da5db0@plymouthcolony.net>
	<5129B2DD.10009@attorneyross.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20130311074423.03bab8b0@plymouthcolony.net>
	<513EADF9.2010905@attorneyross.com>
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<<On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:24:25 -0400, A Joseph Ross <joe@attorneyross.com> said:

> That's a pretty blatant violation.  It amounts to no legal ID at all -- 
> though I note that the NOV does not specify when or how long the station 
> was monitored.  Presumably it was monitored some time around the top of 
> the hour.

I'd love to see the memo that this NOV caused someone to write.

-GAWollman

From bob.bosra@demattia.net  Tue Mar 12 08:33:20 2013
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:33:20 -0400
Subject: WBUR's L-O-N-G Station ID
In-Reply-To: <20798.44936.500722.412944@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <20130221230210.26290@gmx.com>
	<20776.16343.149187.628630@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<161976F5-406C-4405-8D32-21003F2ED395@comcast.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20130223083113.03da5db0@plymouthcolony.net>
	<5129B2DD.10009@attorneyross.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20130311074423.03bab8b0@plymouthcolony.net>
	<513EADF9.2010905@attorneyross.com>
	<20798.44936.500722.412944@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <CAMQUtR97S7BcAkU0Du2Kept3OeZBBU2fEX9H5DLHt4P0rn4N6A@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/11/2013 7:51 AM, Dale H. Cook wrote:
*Note that this was initiated by a complaint, but the NoV does not state
from whom.*



If only a letter of complaint about a pirate would have the same effect.

-Bob

From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net  Tue Mar 12 09:54:23 2013
From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:54:23 -0400
Subject: WBUR's L-O-N-G Station ID
In-Reply-To: <CAMQUtR97S7BcAkU0Du2Kept3OeZBBU2fEX9H5DLHt4P0rn4N6A@mail.g
	mail.com>
References: <20130221230210.26290@gmx.com>
	<20776.16343.149187.628630@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<161976F5-406C-4405-8D32-21003F2ED395@comcast.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20130223083113.03da5db0@plymouthcolony.net>
	<5129B2DD.10009@attorneyross.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20130311074423.03bab8b0@plymouthcolony.net>
	<513EADF9.2010905@attorneyross.com>
	<20798.44936.500722.412944@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<CAMQUtR97S7BcAkU0Du2Kept3OeZBBU2fEX9H5DLHt4P0rn4N6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20130312095235.03b5f4e0@plymouthcolony.net>

At 08:33 AM 3/12/2013, Bob DeMattia wrote:

>If only a letter of complaint about a pirate would have the same effect.

If Uncle Charlie is looking for new revenue it is a lot easier to raise by issuing NoVs to licensees than it is to raise by chasing pirates.

Dale H. Cook, Market Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html 


From lglavin@mail.com  Tue Mar 12 14:11:46 2013
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:11:46 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
Message-ID: <20130312181146.8770@gmx.com>

March 12 gets a special note in Scott's 2013 Tower Calendar because it's the date when FDR inaugurated his Fireside
Chats on the radio. My not-yet-depeted memory bank lit up and I recalled that Harper's Magazine ran one of those
short blurbs that follow the Harper's Index(tm; really: it IS trademarked) a few years ago. Content in Harper's is behind
an impregnable paywall, but after a Google(tm) search, I found a reference to it from the August, 2010 issue.
FDR asked people to send him letters or telegrams in response to his radio addresses, and one listener did not
hesitate to write: "PLEASE STOP TALKING WE WANT TO HEAR SOME MUSIC" (telegrams are all-caps).
Here's a website that refers to the Harper's article and a few other responses:

http://www.freag.net/en/t/15x4y/fireside_chats_

In those days, there were far fewer radio stations and virtually all of them had "variety" formats so
the distressed writer of this telegram would have to wait for quite a few years before some radio
stations that were "all-music" would appear. I wonder if he (or she, but likely he) lived that long.

From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Wed Mar 13 08:59:38 2013
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 08:59:38 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
Message-ID: <CADC3Yg1cf-W3g7VOOYoSgQk9bvQfy6hgoKKZtg0w0jZ2gc5LJQ@mail.gmail.com>

The feds raided the location and seized the equipment after a haitian
pirate on 91.7 in Brockton interferes with air traffic communications:

http://bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/03/12/federal-officials-seize-equipment-for-reported-pirate-radio-station-brockton/enjD6SUmZP2NMuxTvFEBqK/story.html

The article says each time of the 3 times station was notified to see, it
moved to a new location.

From ssmyth@psualum.com  Wed Mar 13 09:18:22 2013
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (ssmyth@psualum.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 06:18:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Brockton pirate station's equipment seized
Message-ID: <1363180702.15525.iosMobile@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

This was mentioned this morning in a brief on WATD's news. The U.S. Attorney's office said the pirate was interfering with air traffic control communications at Logan, and said the station had been warned "several" times. 

From madprof@fairpoint.net  Wed Mar 13 10:44:59 2013
From: madprof@fairpoint.net (Robert Sutherland)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:44:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
In-Reply-To: <CADC3Yg1cf-W3g7VOOYoSgQk9bvQfy6hgoKKZtg0w0jZ2gc5LJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADC3Yg1cf-W3g7VOOYoSgQk9bvQfy6hgoKKZtg0w0jZ2gc5LJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1934.67.158.164.210.1363185899.squirrel@webmail.fairpoint.net>

Please educate me!
I can understand a pirate being shut down in terms of interference to
other stations on same freq,
but 91.7 being interference to Air Traffic control confuses me, sounds
like a "cover" reason. (not that the FCC needs a reason).
Possibly excessive power, (harmonics that affect Air Traffic freq's)
and/or signals in flight paths could explain this.
The legal stations on 91.7 in Boston area [SALEM, NEWBURYPORT (kinda
distant), MARSHFIELD]  are not reported to interfere with Air Traffic.
any thoughts?

Bob Sutherland


posted by Paul Walker
> The feds raided the location and seized the equipment after a haitian
> pirate on 91.7 in Brockton interferes with air traffic communications:

The Globe's article also stated that "officials... could not say
...interference ...[was] any serious problems at Logan"


From ecps92@earthlink.net  Wed Mar 13 11:02:37 2013
From: ecps92@earthlink.net (~Bill)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:02:37 -0400
Subject: Brockton pirate station's equipment seized
In-Reply-To: <1363180702.15525.iosMobile@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1363180702.15525.iosMobile@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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http://www.justice.gov/usao/ma/news/2013/March/PirateRadio.html

Radio Equipment Seized From Pirate Radio Station


MARCH 12, 2013


BOSTON ? A warrant recently unsealed in U.S. District Court details the
seizure of radio transmission equipment of a pirate radio station
broadcasting from Brockton. 

The seizure, by federal officials on March 1, 2013, occurred at the
station?s last known address on Rutland Street in Brockton. The pirate radio
station is alleged to have been using frequency 91.7 MHz without a license
from the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). A civil action was brought
seeking forfeiture of the equipment because it was allegedly used in
violation of federal law.

more at the link above

Bill - N1KUG
Boston, Mass
Cruise Ship Frequencies
http://scanmaritime.com/
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-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
ssmyth@psualum.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:18 AM
To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org
Subject: Brockton pirate station's equipment seized

This was mentioned this morning in a brief on WATD's news. The U.S.
Attorney's office said the pirate was interfering with air traffic control
communications at Logan, and said the station had been warned "several"
times. 



From sids1045@aol.com  Wed Mar 13 12:22:21 2013
From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:22:21 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
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References: <CADC3Yg1cf-W3g7VOOYoSgQk9bvQfy6hgoKKZtg0w0jZ2gc5LJQ@mail.gmail.com>
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"Please educate me!
> I can understand a pirate being shut down in terms of interference to
> other stations on same freq,
> but 91.7 being interference to Air Traffic control confuses me, sounds
> like a "cover" reason. (not that the FCC needs a reason).
> Possibly excessive power, (harmonics that affect Air Traffic freq's)
> and/or signals in flight paths could explain this."

It's not a "cover reason" and it has happened before.  You can't and shouldn't assume that pirates use properly constructed transmitters with adequate filtering.  They usually go for doing things cheaply.  Such equipment is inadequately filtered and can easily spit spurs almost anywhere, especially if mistuned or overloaded.

> "The legal stations on 91.7 in Boston area [SALEM, NEWBURYPORT (kinda
> distant), MARSHFIELD]  are not reported to interfere with Air Traffic."

...which has nothing whatsoever to do with the pirate.  Licensed facilities don't generally buy their transmitters off the back of someone's truck (figuratively, of course).


From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net  Wed Mar 13 12:02:44 2013
From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:02:44 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
In-Reply-To: <1934.67.158.164.210.1363185899.squirrel@webmail.fairpoint. net>
References: <CADC3Yg1cf-W3g7VOOYoSgQk9bvQfy6hgoKKZtg0w0jZ2gc5LJQ@mail.gmail.com>
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At 10:44 AM 3/13/2013, Robert Sutherland wrote:

>Possibly excessive power, (harmonics that affect Air Traffic freq's)

It is likely not harmonics, but spurs from a transmitter that does not meet the Part 73 or Part 74 limits for out-of-band emissions. This has happened to licensed broadcasters using badly maintained or improperly modified transmitters. For an example involving an FM translator on 91.9 (though short on technical details) see this 2007 NoV:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-270813A1.pdf

See also this story from Lubbock, TX:

http://lubbockonline.com/stories/042110/loc_612561675.shtml

Dale H. Cook, Market Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html 


From dlh@donnahalper.com  Wed Mar 13 12:31:15 2013
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:31:15 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
In-Reply-To: <CADC3Yg1cf-W3g7VOOYoSgQk9bvQfy6hgoKKZtg0w0jZ2gc5LJQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 3/13/2013 8:59 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote:
> The feds raided the location and seized the equipment after a haitian
> pirate on 91.7 in Brockton interferes with air traffic communications:
>    
But what I still find mystifying, at the risk of beating a dead horse, 
is why the pirate (it's still a pirate, is it not) in Boston, the wildly 
popular Touch 106.1, is still on the air.  If you don't interfere with 
air traffic, you can be a pirate?

From madprof@fairpoint.net  Wed Mar 13 14:07:53 2013
From: madprof@fairpoint.net (Robert Sutherland)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:07:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
In-Reply-To: <25013C84-E883-45D2-94AA-0136C689939A@aol.com>
References: <CADC3Yg1cf-W3g7VOOYoSgQk9bvQfy6hgoKKZtg0w0jZ2gc5LJQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Thank you, Dale & Sid, I should have considered faulty
transmitters, etc.  I am better educated now.

Bob Sutherland




From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net  Wed Mar 13 15:08:27 2013
From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:08:27 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
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At 02:07 PM 3/13/2013, Robert Sutherland wrote:

>I should have considered faulty transmitters, etc.

Bob -

The thought comes naturally to me, as I have spent a good part of my career fixing faulty transmitters. :-)

Dale H. Cook, Market Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html 


From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net  Wed Mar 13 15:34:54 2013
From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:34:54 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
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At 12:31 PM 3/13/2013, Donna Halper wrote:

>But what I still find mystifying, at the risk of beating a dead 
>horse, is why the pirate (it's still a pirate, is it not) in Boston, 
>the wildly popular Touch 106.1, is still on the air.  If you don't 
>interfere with air traffic, you can be a pirate?

Donna -

I've had some peripheral involvement with a couple of FCC 
investigations of interference to aircraft communications. As a rule 
the FCC is the cart in those investigations - the FAA is the horse. 
The typical sequence of events is that a pilot notices interference 
to comms and reports it to the tower or TRACON; the tower or TRACON 
bumps it upstairs in the FAA; and the FAA calls the FCC EB to 
determine the cause of the interference and take appropriate action. 
The EB has the specialized equipment and the field engineers trained 
to use it, and if the interference is coming from a licensed or 
unlicensed transmitter operating from a fixed location it will be 
located and shut down in short order. If, however, the interference 
is coming from a mobile or portable transmitter it may take longer, 
and require more field engineers with more equipment, to locate it 
and shut it down - such was the case with the notorious "Roanoke 
Phantom" some years ago, and that investigation also involved the 
FBI. For information about that investigation see the document linked 
to below, obtained by a friend who is an attorney under the FOA (but 
be advised that some of the language quoted in the document may be 
considered objectionable):

http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/files/phantom.pdf

In ordinary pirate cases the horse is the FCC, not the FAA, and that 
is a horse of a different color when public safety (i.e., commercial 
airline passengers) is not threatened. So yes, Donna, if a pirate 
doesn't interfere with aircraft comms they are far less likely to get busted.

Dale H. Cook, Market Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, 
Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html 


From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com  Wed Mar 13 15:43:46 2013
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:43:46 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
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> On 3/13/2013 8:59 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote:

>> The feds raided the location and seized the equipment after a haitian
>> pirate on 91.7 in Brockton interferes with air traffic communications:
>>
> But what I still find mystifying, at the risk of beating a dead horse, is 
> why the pirate (it's still a pirate, is it not) in Boston, the wildly 
> popular Touch 106.1, is still on the air.  If you don't interfere with air 
> traffic, you can be a pirate?

Well, I suppose interfering with air traffic is a safety issue.   And Touch 
106.1, as much as they are a pain in the rear, do not affect anyone's 
health, safety and well-being.

There are conspiracy mongers on radio-info who believbe that the FCC has 
been given the order "hands off" by some Boston politician(s).  (Little do 
they know it doesn't work that way.)

There are some that think Obama has instructed the FCC to let it be.



From dlh@donnahalper.com  Wed Mar 13 17:30:53 2013
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:30:53 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
In-Reply-To: <ABA51C8D3C5F47BFB532DC53B6439204@s20035>
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On 3/13/2013 3:43 PM, Don wrote:
>
> There are some that think Obama has instructed the FCC to let it be.

There are some who blame Obama for everything including why their train 
was late this morning.  But there's no evidence he instructed the FCC to 
do anything about Touch 106-- wasn't it on the air before he took 
office?  That said, I had heard it was actually Mayor Menino who wanted 
Touch left alone.

From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Wed Mar 13 08:59:38 2013
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 08:59:38 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
Message-ID: <CADC3Yg1cf-W3g7VOOYoSgQk9bvQfy6hgoKKZtg0w0jZ2gc5LJQ@mail.gmail.com>

The feds raided the location and seized the equipment after a haitian
pirate on 91.7 in Brockton interferes with air traffic communications:

http://bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/03/12/federal-officials-seize-equipment-for-reported-pirate-radio-station-brockton/enjD6SUmZP2NMuxTvFEBqK/story.html

The article says each time of the 3 times station was notified to see, it
moved to a new location.

From bob.bosra@demattia.net  Wed Mar 13 12:26:37 2013
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:26:37 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
In-Reply-To: <25013C84-E883-45D2-94AA-0136C689939A@aol.com>
References: <CADC3Yg1cf-W3g7VOOYoSgQk9bvQfy6hgoKKZtg0w0jZ2gc5LJQ@mail.gmail.com>
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And licensed stations have engineers that periodically monitor the
performance and output
of their transmitters.

-Bob


On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Sid Schweiger <sids1045@aol.com> wrote:

> "Please educate me!
> > I can understand a pirate being shut down in terms of interference to
> > other stations on same freq,
> > but 91.7 being interference to Air Traffic control confuses me, sounds
> > like a "cover" reason. (not that the FCC needs a reason).
> > Possibly excessive power, (harmonics that affect Air Traffic freq's)
> > and/or signals in flight paths could explain this."
>
> It's not a "cover reason" and it has happened before.  You can't and
> shouldn't assume that pirates use properly constructed transmitters with
> adequate filtering.  They usually go for doing things cheaply.  Such
> equipment is inadequately filtered and can easily spit spurs almost
> anywhere, especially if mistuned or overloaded.
>
> > "The legal stations on 91.7 in Boston area [SALEM, NEWBURYPORT (kinda
> > distant), MARSHFIELD]  are not reported to interfere with Air Traffic."
>
> ...which has nothing whatsoever to do with the pirate.  Licensed
> facilities don't generally buy their transmitters off the back of someone's
> truck (figuratively, of course).
>
>

From wollman@bimajority.org  Wed Mar 13 22:11:31 2013
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:11:31 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
In-Reply-To: <CAMQUtR9aeoS50UN99cPgaEx2kZPFTP=PN52b753pFnYBd=5_Yg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADC3Yg1cf-W3g7VOOYoSgQk9bvQfy6hgoKKZtg0w0jZ2gc5LJQ@mail.gmail.com>
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<<On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:26:37 -0400, Bob DeMattia <bob.bosra@demattia.net> said:

> And licensed stations have engineers that periodically monitor the
> performance and output
> of their transmitters.

Or they should, at any rate.  There are plenty of stories about
low-budget stations that don't keep an engineer on staff and only call
in their consulting engineer when they get notice of something broken.

-GAWollman


From dave@skywaves.net  Thu Mar 14 00:19:32 2013
From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:19:32 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
In-Reply-To: <5140A9D3.20908@donnahalper.com>
References: <CADC3Yg1cf-W3g7VOOYoSgQk9bvQfy6hgoKKZtg0w0jZ2gc5LJQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Safety of life is paramount. Anything that interferes with air traffic
control gets an exceptionally high priority.  

-d

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From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
Donna Halper
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:31 PM
To: Paul B. Walker, Jr.
Cc: Boston Radio Group
Subject: Re: Haitian Pirate Raided


On 3/13/2013 8:59 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote:
> The feds raided the location and seized the equipment after a haitian 
> pirate on 91.7 in Brockton interferes with air traffic communications:
>    
But what I still find mystifying, at the risk of beating a dead horse, is
why the pirate (it's still a pirate, is it not) in Boston, the wildly
popular Touch 106.1, is still on the air.  If you don't interfere with air
traffic, you can be a pirate?




From dlh@donnahalper.com  Thu Mar 14 02:26:03 2013
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 02:26:03 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
In-Reply-To: <C7943B8D10D0400EA9EA41B543B2F306@s20035>
References: <CADC3Yg1cf-W3g7VOOYoSgQk9bvQfy6hgoKKZtg0w0jZ2gc5LJQ@mail.gmail.com><5140A9D3.20908@donnahalper.com><ABA51C8D3C5F47BFB532DC53B6439204@s20035>
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On 3/14/2013 2:04 AM, Don wrote:
>
> Do you think a mayor would have that much pull with the FCC?
>
> Don't you think Menino has bigger fish to fry?
>
>

Yes, but he also wants a strong relationship with communities of color, 
and Touch is very popular in those communities.  Again, I asked 
originally why the station had not been shut down-- I have nothing 
against it, and in fact, it is beloved in Mattapan, Roxbury & 
Dorchester. But where "Radio Free Allston" (also very popular) was taken 
off the air by the FCC, Touch has never been, and in fact, its owner 
continues to assert that the station is legal.

From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com  Thu Mar 14 02:04:17 2013
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 02:04:17 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
References: <CADC3Yg1cf-W3g7VOOYoSgQk9bvQfy6hgoKKZtg0w0jZ2gc5LJQ@mail.gmail.com><5140A9D3.20908@donnahalper.com><ABA51C8D3C5F47BFB532DC53B6439204@s20035>
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> On 3/13/2013 3:43 PM, Don wrote:
>>
>> There are some that think Obama has instructed the FCC to let it be.
> 
>That said, I had heard it was actually Mayor Menino who wanted 
> Touch left alone.

Do you think a mayor would have that much pull with the FCC?

Don't you think Menino has bigger fish to fry?



From kvahey@gmail.com  Thu Mar 14 03:12:38 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:12:38 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
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Let me throw this out?

How many Boston stations today truly represent the COL?

Boston is 'unique' where there is no mainstream station devoted to urban.
Today the only signal that 'might' consider urban in 101.7.

I don't have an answer.





On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:26 AM, Donna Halper <dlh@donnahalper.com> wrote:

> On 3/14/2013 2:04 AM, Don wrote:
>
>>
>> Do you think a mayor would have that much pull with the FCC?
>>
>> Don't you think Menino has bigger fish to fry?
>>
>>
>>
> Yes, but he also wants a strong relationship with communities of color,
> and Touch is very popular in those communities.  Again, I asked originally
> why the station had not been shut down-- I have nothing against it, and in
> fact, it is beloved in Mattapan, Roxbury & Dorchester. But where "Radio
> Free Allston" (also very popular) was taken off the air by the FCC, Touch
> has never been, and in fact, its owner continues to assert that the station
> is legal.
>

From elipolo@earthlink.net  Thu Mar 14 04:03:28 2013
From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 04:03:28 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
Message-ID: <33287644.1363248208475.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

They may have raided and shut down the "parent" 
station of this pirate in Brockton, but the 
"repeater" for it that came on the air a few
weeks ago, also on 91.7 in Dorchester, is still 
on the air.

I can hear it in Somerville, and when I listened
for a while a few weeks ago, it was "advertising"
events in Brockton and simulcasting the 91.7 there.

Apparently, the Dorchester "repeater" can continue
broadcasting even with the "parent" shut down.

It's cutting out the fringe signal of WMWM Salem
anywhere south of the Tobin Bridge, and someone
reported that it was adjacent channel splashing
WUMB around the Blue Hill Ave - American Legion 
Highway - Franklin Park area of Dorchester. It 
must be right around there to do that, because
WUMB's signal from their Quincy transmitter is
actually fairly strong there.

EP




From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Thu Mar 14 11:25:08 2013
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:25:08 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
In-Reply-To: <33287644.1363248208475.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <33287644.1363248208475.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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A good example of the FCC shutting down a station due to aircraft
radio interference was Datz Hitz out of Dorchester, or was it
Mattapan, Not only was the 99.7 making it just about impossible for
locals to get WCRB, but it also was definitely causing problems for
aircraft
radio out of Logan, or so they said.

I went to Charlestown on Sunday and on the way back put on 91.7 to see
if I could hear
the pirate Eli mentioned (out of HIS area). I was getting some kind of
foreign language (and
btw the FCC had raided the Brockton one on March 1, so that was
already gone) though after awhile it was just a dead air signal. As I
got closer to those signs on I-93 that says "I-95 to Peabody", WMWM
(David Biggs with jazz) did start to come in. Some will say, well
areas like Somerville aren't really intended to get WMWM, so why
bother protesting?". It still is interference to a legit station and
don't forget WMFO and WUMB could be stepped on, too. (WMWM by the way
is a half decent distance away from Logan and we are allowed to put
out 130 watts-- though to be honest we are luck to put out 70...)

Some years ago a co-worker, who is now retired, told me he couldn't
pick up WMBR at his home in Methuen due to a Lawrence pirate station
at 88.1. He said he called, or was it wrote, the FCC and they got
taken off eventually.

I know there are people out there who love the idea of pirate
radio--hey it's something different! It's also often stepping on legit
stations, making money with taxes not reported to
the IRS, etc. Maybe if it was out in the boonies (still wrong though)
but here the dial is crowded enough.
It doesn't need more interference. Yeah I guess it was good (sarcasm
here) that Whitey Bulger, Stephen Flemmi, and Kevin Weeks were
servicing the Boston area with drug distribution, too; people do need
their pot and coke, right? It's still against the law.

From bob.bosra@demattia.net  Thu Mar 14 12:06:01 2013
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:06:01 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
In-Reply-To: <CAJht-8O=ghAh5Q3MXVjWyFHn-Q2-CCmmddv+kPW_PhCXLMLVGQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <33287644.1363248208475.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<CAJht-8O=ghAh5Q3MXVjWyFHn-Q2-CCmmddv+kPW_PhCXLMLVGQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMQUtR8fPjud6Dp6ar5CpGx4q_8KRB2pTd=qR1yoDU35H4sskw@mail.gmail.com>

Still can't listen to WROR 105.7, and difficult to listen to the WPKZ 105.3
translator
in Worcester due to the 105.5 pirate.  A long time ago I stopped try to
hold my
breath on that one.

-Bob


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Bob Nelson <raccoonradio@gmail.com> wrote:

> A good example of the FCC shutting down a station due to aircraft
> radio interference was Datz Hitz out of Dorchester, or was it
>

From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Thu Mar 14 14:45:10 2013
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:45:10 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
In-Reply-To: <CAMQUtR8fPjud6Dp6ar5CpGx4q_8KRB2pTd=qR1yoDU35H4sskw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <33287644.1363248208475.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<CAJht-8O=ghAh5Q3MXVjWyFHn-Q2-CCmmddv+kPW_PhCXLMLVGQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMQUtR8fPjud6Dp6ar5CpGx4q_8KRB2pTd=qR1yoDU35H4sskw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJht-8OYfCHNxNwtU5SrW8zHP6mWOADJ8irGpS0Z55cHuSDQRg@mail.gmail.com>

http://m.enterprisenews.com/wkdenterprise/pm_29505/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=y6gfbUAo

Broadcast at almost 35,000 times the legal limit. Potential interference
with aircraft radio. Feds trying to get them since 2010..they kept changing
locations.

From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Thu Mar 14 15:29:29 2013
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:29:29 -0400
Subject: Paper that had owned WFNX to shut down paper
Message-ID: <CAJht-8M1F8Atrr-gpZ41oaCxjX=ZrydeUPcXrnVSzDcYhLD-ww@mail.gmail.com>

It will continue in a couple other cities but the Boston Phoenix will
be no more as of next week. Even the big sale
of WFNX to Clear Channel could not save them. WFNX.com will go dark too.

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/03/boston_phoenix_is_closing

From irw@well.com  Thu Mar 14 15:00:33 2013
From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:00:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WFNX.com and Boston Phoenix will close
Message-ID: <72915141.143548.1363287633187.JavaMail.root@well.com>

The Globe <http://www.boston.com/culturedesk/2013/03/14/phoenix/QqQzavbEwKfG70lq9GCWVO/story.html> reports that the Boston Phoenix and wfnx.com will soon close.

Here's the press release:

The Phoenix Media/Communications Group owner and publisher Stephen M. Mindich today announced a major reorganization. Among the changes:

With the issue dated March 15, The Phoenix, the 47 year old alternative arts and news weekly will cease print publication. The online issue slated for the week of March 22, will be the publication?s last.

The Portland Phoenix in Maine and the Providence Phoenix in Rhode Island will be unaffected. They will continue weekly publication.

The custom publishing unit of the PM/CG, likewise, will stay in business. as will MassWeb Printing, based in Auburn MA.

Mindich announced these changes at a staff meeting at 2 pm today. Freelance contributors were notified subsequent to that.

PM/CG Executive Editor Peter Kadzis, a 25-year veteran of the Phoenix, said this:

?I started reading the paper when I was 14 years old and had the fun and challenge of running it for 20 years or so. Political Boston, arts Boston, just won?t be the same. We are a text book example of sweeping market-place change. Our recent switch to a magazine format met with applause from readers and local advertisers. Not so -- with a few exceptions -- national advertisers. It was the long-term decline of national advertising dollars that made the Boston Phoenix economically unviable. Providence and Portland, however, don?t suffer from that problem. The local advertising market is sufficient to support those publications. You can see why Warren Buffett favors small market papers over their big city brothers and sisters,?

?The tragedy? wrote Boston Phoenix Editor Carly Carioli in a blog post, ?is that it feels like we?re going out at the top of our game. As I write this our best journalists are where they belong: in the field. David Bernstein is in Washington, interviewing Elizabeth Warren for what would have been the next issue?s cover story. Music editor Michael Marotta is heading up a team of photographers and writers covering SXSW. Among those with him is Liz Pelly, who arrived in Austin direct from a DIY music festival in Mexico. Our next issue would also have included an important essay by 350.org?s Bill McKibben on the Democratic Senate primary between Ed Markey and Steve Lynch -- and its deep importance to preventing the expansion of the KXL pipeline.?



From dlh@donnahalper.com  Thu Mar 14 16:29:11 2013
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:29:11 -0400
Subject: Paper that had owned WFNX to shut down paper
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On 3/14/2013 3:29 PM, Bob Nelson wrote:
> It will continue in a couple other cities but the Boston Phoenix will
> be no more as of next week. Even the big sale
> of WFNX to Clear Channel could not save them. WFNX.com will go dark too.
>    

This is sad news on many levels.  Some of the best media criticism and 
political reporting came from the Phoenix.  Dan Kennedy, David Bernstein 
and others often covered stories the mainstream press did not.  A lot of 
good reporters worked for the Phoenix, and you wonder if they will be 
able to find work, given today's financially unstable media environment.

From heritageradio@msn.com  Thu Mar 14 16:52:53 2013
From: heritageradio@msn.com (Thomas Heathwood)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:52:53 -0400
Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 17, Issue 68
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Clicking on the subject (untitled in address bar) yeilds nothing.    ???

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From dlh@donnahalper.com  Thu Mar 14 17:36:34 2013
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:36:34 -0400
Subject: tomorrow in Tewksbury Public Library
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I am scheduled to give a talk about my Boston radio book, as well as 
looking at local radio happenings since I wrote it, at the Tewskbury 
Public Library, 300 Chandler Street (route 38, I believe).  Nice local 
library and should be a lot of fun.  Lord knows there's plenty to 
discuss! 10.30 AM, and I hope you can be there!

From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net  Thu Mar 14 17:42:00 2013
From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:42:00 -0400
Subject: Paper that had owned WFNX to shut down paper
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At 04:29 PM 3/14/2013, Donna Halper wrote:

>This is sad news on many levels.
>... often covered stories the mainstream press did not.

It is sad news. Even though many alternative media may exhibit a political slant that I have not shared since I was a rather young man I still read them precisely because I find in them many stories of interest that I will not find elsewhere. I would rather read, hear, or see a story with fundamentally sound reporting that has a bit of a political slant that differs from my political slant, than read, hear, or see fundamentally sloppy reporting from someone who has the same political slant that I do. Also, if a mainstream media outlet has a story about "Wooster, Massachusetts" it makes me think that if they cannot bother to use a pronouncer there are likely to be other flaws in their reporting.

This reminds me a bit of when the Daily Hampshire Gazette bought the Valley Advocate several years ago. Although it was sad to see an alternative acquired by a mainstream that alternative bore little resemblance to the paper that I read in its first couple of decades. The steady dwindling of diversity in the print and broadcast media is something I regret. Ah, well, I still have my local NPR station. Even though my political slant differs from the slant that I sometimes hear in their stories I still hear a lot of solid reporting at the national and local levels, as well as hearing stories at both levels that I am unlikely to find elsewhere.

Dale H. Cook, Market Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html 


From dlh@donnahalper.com  Thu Mar 14 17:58:22 2013
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:58:22 -0400
Subject: Paper that had owned WFNX to shut down paper
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On 3/14/2013 5:42 PM, Dale H. Cook wrote:
>
> It is sad news. Even though many alternative media may exhibit a political slant that I have not shared since I was a rather young man I still read them precisely because I find in them many stories of interest that I will not find elsewhere.
>    

That was a unique selling point about the Phoenix.  Yeah, some of what 
they wrote was "lib-rull," but their political reporters and 
investigative reporters followed the story no matter where it took 
them-- they fearlessly took on the powerful from both parties, and they 
did some of the best media criticism in the city.

From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Sat Mar 16 12:05:05 2013
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 12:05:05 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
In-Reply-To: <20130312181146.8770@gmx.com>
References: <20130312181146.8770@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <CAJht-8OMTRkTQXJhwruSWrch-rKNh3X5cbO-=58YOt1_zPnAWA@mail.gmail.com>

I remember there was a feature in the Radio Shack circular where the
president of the company did a "flyer-side chat".
One episode of All In  The Family had Archie's political polar
opposite, Maude Findlay,
objecting to Archie's putdown of FDR's fireside chats. "Those fireside
chats kept this
country informed!," she yells. "And one 'my friends' from Roosevelt
was worth a barrelful of 'Let Me Make This Perfectly Clear's!"

Archie retorts, "Oh now you're attacking my President, huh? Well let
me tell you one
thing about Richard E. Nixon" (sic) :)

From rac@gabrielmass.com  Sat Mar 16 13:25:03 2013
From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:25:03 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
In-Reply-To: <CAJht-8OMTRkTQXJhwruSWrch-rKNh3X5cbO-=58YOt1_zPnAWA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20130312181146.8770@gmx.com>
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Message-ID: <5144AAEF.6030009@gabrielmass.com>

Speaking of Nixonian expressions, "Let me make this clear" has returned 
in the current president's bag of rhetorical tics, so the joke needs 
little to update it.   Thanks!

--rc


On 03/16/2013 12:05 PM, Bob Nelson wrote:
> I remember there was a feature in the Radio Shack circular where the
> president of the company did a "flyer-side chat".
> One episode of All In  The Family had Archie's political polar
> opposite, Maude Findlay,
> objecting to Archie's putdown of FDR's fireside chats. "Those fireside
> chats kept this
> country informed!," she yells. "And one 'my friends' from Roosevelt
> was worth a barrelful of 'Let Me Make This Perfectly Clear's!"
>
> Archie retorts, "Oh now you're attacking my President, huh? Well let
> me tell you one
> thing about Richard E. Nixon" (sic) :)
>


From joe@attorneyross.com  Sun Mar 17 01:56:42 2013
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 01:56:42 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
In-Reply-To: <5144AAEF.6030009@gabrielmass.com>
References: <20130312181146.8770@gmx.com>
	<CAJht-8OMTRkTQXJhwruSWrch-rKNh3X5cbO-=58YOt1_zPnAWA@mail.gmail.com>
	<5144AAEF.6030009@gabrielmass.com>
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On 3/16/2013 1:25 PM, Richard Chonak wrote:

> Speaking of Nixonian expressions, "Let me make this clear" has 
> returned in the current president's bag of rhetorical tics, so the 
> joke needs little to update it.   Thanks!

The reputed Nixon line (I don't remember Nixon ever saying it, but 
satirists said it a lot) was "Let me make one thing perfectly clear."

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004
617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com


From kvahey@gmail.com  Sun Mar 17 03:25:38 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 03:25:38 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
In-Reply-To: <51455B1A.9080303@attorneyross.com>
References: <20130312181146.8770@gmx.com>
	<CAJht-8OMTRkTQXJhwruSWrch-rKNh3X5cbO-=58YOt1_zPnAWA@mail.gmail.com>
	<5144AAEF.6030009@gabrielmass.com>
	<51455B1A.9080303@attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <CABnTNsMn2+ajptyKdTxc3GQ_YUy7Kk4NYUCrFFSyXxwi24MtWQ@mail.gmail.com>

"I am not a crook" is the ultimate Nixon sound bite.

What scares me is that Nixon 40 years later looks pretty good compared with
current cast of characters.




On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:56 AM, A Joseph Ross <joe@attorneyross.com> wrote:

> On 3/16/2013 1:25 PM, Richard Chonak wrote:
>
>  Speaking of Nixonian expressions, "Let me make this clear" has returned
>> in the current president's bag of rhetorical tics, so the joke needs little
>> to update it.   Thanks!
>>
>
> The reputed Nixon line (I don't remember Nixon ever saying it, but
> satirists said it a lot) was "Let me make one thing perfectly clear."
>
> --
> A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004
> 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com
>
>

From sids1045@aol.com  Sun Mar 17 07:56:50 2013
From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 07:56:50 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
In-Reply-To: <CABnTNsMn2+ajptyKdTxc3GQ_YUy7Kk4NYUCrFFSyXxwi24MtWQ@mail.gmail.com>
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"What scares me is that Nixon 40 years later looks pretty good compared with current cast of characters."

40+ years ago I had a summer job during my college years:  "studio/field engineer" (classy way of saying "board op") at what was then the ABC Radio Network (God only knows what it's called now) in New York.  During the summers of 1973 (the Senator Sam kangaroo court) and 1974 (the House Judiciary Committee hearings and Nixon's resignation) we were intensively covering Watergate.  I watched a bunch of hard-line conservatives in the newsroom, convinced that Nixon was the law-and-order president he claimed to be, come around to the conclusion that he had to go for the good of the country.  It was because of Nixon's attitude ("When the president does it, it is not wrong...") that historians coined the phrase "the imperial presidency."

And today our president goes down the exact same road with an exactly opposite reaction...one gigantic yawn.


From attychase@comcast.net  Sun Mar 17 13:36:45 2013
From: attychase@comcast.net (Attorney Chase)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:36:45 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
References: <mailman.1.1363536000.30495.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
Message-ID: <03CCEF0FC1C8437D939BD45D0A7C9095@HOMEOFFICE>

Not to digress too far but can you give some examples? (re "And today our 
president goes down the exact same road with an exactly opposite 
reaction...one gigantic yawn" ) You aren't referring to the opinions 
expressed on the Fox (so-called) News Network are you?

> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 07:56:50 -0400
> From: Sid Schweiger <sids1045@aol.com>
> To: Kevin Vahey <kvahey@gmail.com>
> Cc: "boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org"
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> "What scares me is that Nixon 40 years later looks pretty good compared 
> with current cast of characters."
>
> 40+ years ago I had a summer job during my college years:  "studio/field 
> engineer" (classy way of saying "board op") at what was then the ABC Radio 
> Network (God only knows what it's called now) in New York.  During the 
> summers of 1973 (the Senator Sam kangaroo court) and 1974 (the House 
> Judiciary Committee hearings and Nixon's resignation) we were intensively 
> covering Watergate.  I watched a bunch of hard-line conservatives in the 
> newsroom, convinced that Nixon was the law-and-order president he claimed 
> to be, come around to the conclusion that he had to go for the good of the 
> country.  It was because of Nixon's attitude ("When the president does it, 
> it is not wrong...") that historians coined the phrase "the imperial 
> presidency."
>
> And today our president goes down the exact same road with an exactly 
> opposite reaction...one gigantic yawn.
>
>
>
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From sids1045@aol.com  Sun Mar 17 14:36:25 2013
From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:36:25 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
In-Reply-To: <03CCEF0FC1C8437D939BD45D0A7C9095@HOMEOFFICE>
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"Not to digress too far but can you give some examples? (re "And today our president goes down the exact same road with an exactly opposite reaction...one gigantic yawn" ) You aren't referring to the opinions expressed on the Fox (so-called) News Network are you?"

This has nothing to do with who's covering the story.  The president has arrogated to himself via executive order the powers of judge, jury and executioner, by deciding that he and he alone can decide to have American citizens killed, without judicial review, in the name of fighting terrorism.  The attacks on his position have come from all sides, justifiably so.  Whatever happened to "No person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law?"

Whether from the right or from the left, too few people seem to understand that the president's position is not only a blatant violation of the constitutional separation of powers, but it is a terrible lesson to our youth, who are only going to take away from this the lesson that the rule of law means nothing.  We also apparently are unable to learn from our history.  Long before Nixon's excesses, a certain US senator went down this road in the 1950's.  He also thought the ends justified the means, and the judgment of history is that we shamed ourselves before the world by even daring to think he was right.

I seem to recall that, almost 60 years ago, it was a TV journalist, taking on that senator, who said:  "We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.  We can deny our heritage and our history, but we cannot escape responsibility for the result."


From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Sun Mar 17 15:15:06 2013
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:15:06 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
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In the Rocky Horror Picture Show, Brad and Janet are listening to
Nixon's resignation speech on the radio while driving. ("To leave
office at this time is abhorrent to every bone in my body.
But as President, I must put the interests of America first. America
needs a full time
President and a full time Congress...") The narrator (Charles Gray)
describes it as a "late
November evening". But the event was in August.

From joe@attorneyross.com  Mon Mar 18 01:19:52 2013
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 01:19:52 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
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On 3/17/2013 3:25 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote:

> "I am not a crook" is the ultimate Nixon sound bite.

And that's not quite what he said, either.  He said, "The American 
People want to know if their president is a crook.  Well, I'm not a crook."

> What scares me is that Nixon 40 years later looks pretty 
> good compared with current cast of characters.

Apart from Watergate and the surrounding events, Nixon was a pretty good 
President.  For example, he ended the military draft, he supported 
lowering the voting age to 18 (and I heard him favor that back in the 
1960 campaign), he instituted the EPA and appointed a strong 
administrator, William Ruckelshaus, he finally ended school segregation 
in the South by threatening to withhold Federal aid to education, he 
proposed a welfare reform bill that was considered liberal then and 
would be considered liberal today, and despite his sometime 
anti-semitism, he came to the aid of Israel during the Yom Kippur War.  
I worked at the Brookline Rent Control Board at that time, where most of 
us were Jewish and all of us had been for McGovern a year earlier, but 
we talked about it once and all agreed that, at that time, we were glad 
Nixon was there, since we weren't sure McGovern would have come through 
the same way.  Watergate was a colossal mess, for which Nixon was 
responsible, but it's too bad that it overshadows all the good Nixon did.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004
617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com


From cohasset@frontiernet.net  Tue Mar 19 08:12:24 2013
From: cohasset@frontiernet.net (Cohasset / Hippisley)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:12:24 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
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A day or so _after_ Nixon's resignation, I was on my way home from the office when I heard a commentary about that historic event -- delivered on my local NBC Radio News affiliate by John Chancellor.  I remember thinking at the time, and for months thereafter, it was the finest summation of the situation I had heard.  Recently I've tried but been unable to find Mr. Chancellor's commentary via internet searching.  Can anyone here point me to a link of the actual audio or, failing that, a transcript?

Thanks!

Bud Hippisley

On Mar 17, 2013, at 3:15 06PM, Bob Nelson <raccoonradio@gmail.com> wrote:

> In the Rocky Horror Picture Show, Brad and Janet are listening to
> Nixon's resignation speech on the radio while driving. . .the event was in August.



From attychase@comcast.net  Tue Mar 19 13:27:14 2013
From: attychase@comcast.net (Attorney Chase)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:27:14 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
References: <mailman.1.1363622400.57513.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
Message-ID: <3317F417F7464CCFB629A3711B90CD72@HOMEOFFICE>

What Holder said at Northwestern was:

"The conduct and management of national security operations are core functions of the Executive Branch, as courts have recognized throughout our history.   Military and civilian officials must often make real-time decisions that balance the need to act, the existence of alternative options, the possibility of collateral damage, and other judgments - all of which depend on expertise and immediate access to information that only the Executive Branch may possess in real time.   The Constitution's guarantee of due process is ironclad, and it is essential - but, as a recent court decision makes clear, it does not require judicial approval before the President may use force abroad against a senior operational leader of a foreign terrorist organization with which the United States is at war - even if that individual happens to be a U.S. citizen. "

Essentially he is saying that if the United States dropped a bomb on Radio Tokyo during World War II to stop propaganda directed at our troops and in the process had killed Tokyo Rose (a U.S. citizen) we would not have had to get judicial approval. Seems appropriate to me. The key word is abroad. I actually applaud Rand Paul's filibuster to get Holder to state that his remarks did not apply to citizens in the territory of the United States. Of course it might have been easier on Paul's vocal cords if he simply had read the remarks rather than listen to the talk radio "commentator's version." And it has everything to do with who's covering the story, ever since the abrogation of the fairness doctrine, what passes for discussion and information on radio is now mostly diatribe and may I say, usually dribble.

The problem with this "terrorist war" against Al-Qaeda  is that they respect no national boundaries, they bring their war wherever and whenever they can, be it Kenya, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Indonesia, the Philippines, England, Spain, etc. and as we have seen, even in the United States. Make no mistake about, they have declared war on the United States.

This conversations on talk radio would not have happened during the Bush II administration for two reasons. First, his supporters are the one who are raising the issue now on talk radio for political purposes and second, apparently he was so interested in getting Saddam for attempting to assassinate his daddy he didn't bother to go after Al-Qaeda. 

N.B. Neither side gave the other due process as they tried to kill each other at Gettysburg. 

  > Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:36:25 -0400
> From: Sid Schweiger <sids1045@aol.com>
> To: Attorney Chase <attychase@comcast.net>
> Cc: "<boston-radio-interest@tsornin.bostonradio.org>"
> <boston-radio-interest@tsornin.bostonradio.org>
> Subject: Re: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
> Message-ID: <32822EC7-BA1B-4031-BCFA-5CFFFCE88685@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> "Not to digress too far but can you give some examples? (re "And today our president goes down the exact same road with an exactly opposite reaction...one gigantic yawn" ) You aren't referring to the opinions expressed on the Fox (so-called) News Network are you?"
> 
> This has nothing to do with who's covering the story.  The president has arrogated to himself via executive order the powers of judge, jury and executioner, by deciding that he and he alone can decide to have American citizens killed, without judicial review, in the name of fighting terrorism.  The attacks on his position have come from all sides, justifiably so.  Whatever happened to "No person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law?"

From joe@attorneyross.com  Wed Mar 20 00:37:52 2013
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:37:52 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
In-Reply-To: <3317F417F7464CCFB629A3711B90CD72@HOMEOFFICE>
References: <mailman.1.1363622400.57513.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
	<3317F417F7464CCFB629A3711B90CD72@HOMEOFFICE>
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On 3/19/2013 1:27 PM, Attorney Chase wrote:

> N.B. Neither side gave the other due process as they tried to kill each other at Gettysburg.

This is the nub of the issue as I see it.  There have long been 
occasions when the government has killed American citizens on American 
soil without due process, and in a number of instances it is considered 
acceptable.  The Civil War was an example, though it can be argued that 
Confederate soldiers didn't count as US citizens at the time, since they 
had relinquished their citizenship.  But what about when police take out 
a gunman or a hostage-taker to stop him from killing (more) people?  To 
what process is he entitled? The question isn't whether the government 
is justified in killing citizens on US soil, it's just when and under 
what circumstances it's acceptable.  And that's not entirely an easy 
question.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004
617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com


From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Wed Mar 20 12:12:02 2013
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:12:02 -0400
Subject: new WBQT calls for 96.9 in effect
Message-ID: <CAJht-8O+wEw9U9LM8wSXxsH+84N59YTemq=RkzaeDasDm5SZvw@mail.gmail.com>

It was reported the other day that Greater had applied for the call
letters WBQT for what was WTKK "Hot 96.9" (btw there is a Hot 96.9 on
the West Coast and the domain name hot969.com refers to that one; the
one we have is hot969boston.com) Indeed at noon I did hear them say
"WBQT Boston and WBQT HD-1" Boston.

The WTKK calls had been in effect since the change to talk in 1999.

From bob.bosra@demattia.net  Wed Mar 20 12:17:42 2013
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:17:42 -0400
Subject: new WBQT calls for 96.9 in effect
In-Reply-To: <CAJht-8O+wEw9U9LM8wSXxsH+84N59YTemq=RkzaeDasDm5SZvw@mail.gmail.com>
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Are they trying to look like WBOT, maybe?

-Bob


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Bob Nelson <raccoonradio@gmail.com> wrote:

> It was reported the other day that Greater had applied for the call
> letters WBQT for what was WTKK "Hot 96.9" (btw there is a Hot 96.9 on
> the West Coast and the domain name hot969.com refers to that one; the
> one we have is hot969boston.com) Indeed at noon I did hear them say
> "WBQT Boston and WBQT HD-1" Boston.
>
> The WTKK calls had been in effect since the change to talk in 1999.
>

From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Wed Mar 20 12:33:37 2013
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:33:37 -0400
Subject: new WBQT calls for 96.9 in effect
In-Reply-To: <CAMQUtR8r7NJPxP2xbegHsAqXmPxk3W+nCsUvbQWRA5rCQ4oKmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJht-8O+wEw9U9LM8wSXxsH+84N59YTemq=RkzaeDasDm5SZvw@mail.gmail.com>
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That's what some people are thinking  but they seem to be the type of
station that will only give their calls at the top of the hour and
otherwise use their nickname. If we do hear mention of the calls more
often, then maybe. It could just be a sign of shaking off the previous
format, etc.

In this age of PPM, etc. maybe nicknames and memory of the dial
position are what they mostly care about. How much does it cost for a
call letter change btw? In other words, is this worth whatever they
spent to get the calls. (Of course in the case of heritage stations
like WBZ, WRKO, or WBCN--which CBS has "parked"-- the importance of
call letters can be a different story. In the past some stations have
picked up call letters of beloved stations of the past-- WROR, WMEX,
etc., and tried to associate them with their current brand.

From attychase@comcast.net  Wed Mar 20 14:50:27 2013
From: attychase@comcast.net (Attorney Chase)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:50:27 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
References: <mailman.1.1363795200.10491.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
Message-ID: <14187AC5D9C845548877460F3D384852@HOMEOFFICE>

Believe it or not the CSA had a Constitution that very much tracked the US 
Constitution and incorporated the Bill of Rights and concepts of due process 
in it.  See http://www.usconstitution.net/csa.html#A1Sec9 Thus if the CSA 
combatants were being excluded in the comment from the requirement to 
provide due process because they were no longer citizens of the US, they 
would have been covered by their own CSA Constitution's provisions of due 
process. (Article 1, Section 9, Clause 16.)

> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:37:52 -0400
> From: A Joseph Ross <joe@attorneyross.com>
> To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
> Subject: Re: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
> Message-ID: <51493D20.6060401@attorneyross.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 3/19/2013 1:27 PM, Attorney Chase wrote:
>
>> N.B. Neither side gave the other due process as they tried to kill each 
>> other at Gettysburg.
>
> This is the nub of the issue as I see it.  There have long been
> occasions when the government has killed American citizens on American
> soil without due process, and in a number of instances it is considered
> acceptable.  The Civil War was an example, though it can be argued that
> Confederate soldiers didn't count as US citizens at the time, since they
> had relinquished their citizenship.  But what about when police take out
> a gunman or a hostage-taker to stop him from killing (more) people?  To
> what process is he entitled? The question isn't whether the government
> is justified in killing citizens on US soil, it's just when and under
> what circumstances it's acceptable.  And that's not entirely an easy
> question. 



From peterwmurray@gmail.com  Wed Mar 20 15:30:58 2013
From: peterwmurray@gmail.com (Peter Murray)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:30:58 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
In-Reply-To: <14187AC5D9C845548877460F3D384852@HOMEOFFICE>
References: <mailman.1.1363795200.10491.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
	<14187AC5D9C845548877460F3D384852@HOMEOFFICE>
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Fascinating, but they didn't have any radio in the South. Or in the North,
for that matter! :)

-Peter


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Attorney Chase <attychase@comcast.net>wrote:

> Believe it or not the CSA had a Constitution that very much tracked the US
> Constitution and incorporated the Bill of Rights and concepts of due
> process
> in it.  See http://www.usconstitution.net/csa.html#A1Sec9 Thus if the CSA
> combatants were being excluded in the comment from the requirement to
> provide due process because they were no longer citizens of the US, they
> would have been covered by their own CSA Constitution's provisions of due
> process. (Article 1, Section 9, Clause 16.)
>
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:37:52 -0400
> > From: A Joseph Ross <joe@attorneyross.com>
> > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
> > Subject: Re: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
> > Message-ID: <51493D20.6060401@attorneyross.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > On 3/19/2013 1:27 PM, Attorney Chase wrote:
> >
> >> N.B. Neither side gave the other due process as they tried to kill each
> >> other at Gettysburg.
> >
> > This is the nub of the issue as I see it.  There have long been
> > occasions when the government has killed American citizens on American
> > soil without due process, and in a number of instances it is considered
> > acceptable.  The Civil War was an example, though it can be argued that
> > Confederate soldiers didn't count as US citizens at the time, since they
> > had relinquished their citizenship.  But what about when police take out
> > a gunman or a hostage-taker to stop him from killing (more) people?  To
> > what process is he entitled? The question isn't whether the government
> > is justified in killing citizens on US soil, it's just when and under
> > what circumstances it's acceptable.  And that's not entirely an easy
> > question.
>
>
>

From joe@attorneyross.com  Wed Mar 20 15:38:35 2013
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:38:35 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
In-Reply-To: <14187AC5D9C845548877460F3D384852@HOMEOFFICE>
References: <mailman.1.1363795200.10491.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
	<14187AC5D9C845548877460F3D384852@HOMEOFFICE>
Message-ID: <514A103B.9050906@attorneyross.com>

On 3/20/2013 2:50 PM, Attorney Chase wrote:

> Believe it or not the CSA had a Constitution that very much tracked the US
> Constitution and incorporated the Bill of Rights and concepts of due process
> in it.  See http://www.usconstitution.net/csa.html#A1Sec9 Thus if the CSA
> combatants were being excluded in the comment from the requirement to
> provide due process because they were no longer citizens of the US, they
> would have been covered by their own CSA Constitution's provisions of due
> process. (Article 1, Section 9, Clause 16.)

Yes, but the USA didn't recognize the CSA and was not bound by the CSA 
constitution.

I came across the CSA constitution in the library when I was in law 
school.  It did look a lot like the US constitution, with the major 
difference that it had provisions explicitly protecting states rights, 
and it reverted to the earlier model of Congress, i.e. a unicameral 
body, in which each state's delegation had one vote.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004
617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com


From kvahey@gmail.com  Wed Mar 20 18:54:17 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:54:17 -0400
Subject: Tonight Show will move back to New York
Message-ID: <CABnTNsPap4_VEnFN7O8U77RzK5ui9AMBGTwi4H045NUE_Z4WQw@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/21/business/media/tonight-show-expected-to-return-to-new-york-with-fallon.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=1&


Leno's contract is up in the fall of 2014 but friends at NBC in NY say he
may be bought out. Comcast brass in Philly have no use for Jay.


The NY Times mentions work is progressing on a new studio at 30 Rock which
leads me to think 8H will finally get a long overdue makeover.

From kvahey@gmail.com  Wed Mar 20 19:47:12 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:47:12 -0400
Subject: Tonight Show will move back to New York
In-Reply-To: <514A439D.4070104@fybush.com>
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That would be John Pinto on the crane.

Of course now that NBC Sports has moved to Stamford they could redo 8G

Bill Carter says work has begun.



On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Scott Fybush <scott@fybush.com> wrote:

> On 3/20/2013 6:54 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/**03/21/business/media/tonight-**
>> show-expected-to-return-to-**new-york-with-fallon.html?**
>> smid=tw-nytimes&_r=1&<http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/21/business/media/tonight-show-expected-to-return-to-new-york-with-fallon.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=1&>
>>
>>
>> Leno's contract is up in the fall of 2014 but friends at NBC in NY say he
>> may be bought out. Comcast brass in Philly have no use for Jay.
>>
>>
>> The NY Times mentions work is progressing on a new studio at 30 Rock which
>> leads me to think 8H will finally get a long overdue makeover.
>>
>>
> What needs making over? I was in 8H about a year ago, and it boasts a very
> new HD control room and even newer audio rooms (two of them, in fact, one
> for music and one for everything else). The hallways and offices
> surrounding the studio were redone a few years ago, and the lobby's in good
> shape.
>
> Aside from the walls themselves, and maybe the audience seating, I don't
> think there's much of anything in the 8H complex that's any older than a
> decade or so (except for the venerable camera jib that's apparently a
> Saturday Night Live landmark; IIRC, the same guy's been operating it since
> the start of the show.)
>
> s
>

From scott@fybush.com  Wed Mar 20 19:17:49 2013
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:17:49 -0400
Subject: Tonight Show will move back to New York
In-Reply-To: <CABnTNsPap4_VEnFN7O8U77RzK5ui9AMBGTwi4H045NUE_Z4WQw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABnTNsPap4_VEnFN7O8U77RzK5ui9AMBGTwi4H045NUE_Z4WQw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <514A439D.4070104@fybush.com>

On 3/20/2013 6:54 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/21/business/media/tonight-show-expected-to-return-to-new-york-with-fallon.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=1&
>
>
> Leno's contract is up in the fall of 2014 but friends at NBC in NY say he
> may be bought out. Comcast brass in Philly have no use for Jay.
>
>
> The NY Times mentions work is progressing on a new studio at 30 Rock which
> leads me to think 8H will finally get a long overdue makeover.
>

What needs making over? I was in 8H about a year ago, and it boasts a 
very new HD control room and even newer audio rooms (two of them, in 
fact, one for music and one for everything else). The hallways and 
offices surrounding the studio were redone a few years ago, and the 
lobby's in good shape.

Aside from the walls themselves, and maybe the audience seating, I don't 
think there's much of anything in the 8H complex that's any older than a 
decade or so (except for the venerable camera jib that's apparently a 
Saturday Night Live landmark; IIRC, the same guy's been operating it 
since the start of the show.)

s

From wollman@bimajority.org  Wed Mar 20 19:58:34 2013
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:58:34 -0400
Subject: Tonight Show will move back to New York
In-Reply-To: <CABnTNsOqq3bdro7z0BCja6GsVb-=O-6vXB4WCN1VgP-7hmp=oQ@mail.gmail.com>
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<<On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:47:12 -0400, Kevin Vahey <kvahey@gmail.com> said:

> Of course now that NBC Sports has moved to Stamford they could redo 8G

> Bill Carter says work has begun.

You're going to have to explain who that is.

-GAWollman

From kvahey@gmail.com  Wed Mar 20 20:26:33 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:26:33 -0400
Subject: Tonight Show will move back to New York
In-Reply-To: <514A4E3D.2000209@fybush.com>
References: <CABnTNsPap4_VEnFN7O8U77RzK5ui9AMBGTwi4H045NUE_Z4WQw@mail.gmail.com>
	<514A439D.4070104@fybush.com>
	<CABnTNsOqq3bdro7z0BCja6GsVb-=O-6vXB4WCN1VgP-7hmp=oQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<514A4E3D.2000209@fybush.com>
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I should add that Bill Carter is the TV critic of the NY Times and has
covered the late night wars for decades.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Scott Fybush <scott@fybush.com> wrote:

> The only problem with 8G is that it's not especially audience-friendly,
> IIRC. You could build seating, of course, but is there the logistical space
> on 9 to move people in and out they way they can for 8H?
>
>
> On 3/20/2013 7:47 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
>
>> That would be John Pinto on the crane.
>>
>> Of course now that NBC Sports has moved to Stamford they could redo 8G
>>
>> Bill Carter says work has begun.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Scott Fybush <scott@fybush.com
>> <mailto:scott@fybush.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 3/20/2013 6:54 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
>>
>>         http://www.nytimes.com/2013/__**03/21/business/media/tonight-_**
>> _show-expected-to-return-to-__**new-york-with-fallon.html?__**
>> smid=tw-nytimes&_r=1&<http://www.nytimes.com/2013/__03/21/business/media/tonight-__show-expected-to-return-to-__new-york-with-fallon.html?__smid=tw-nytimes&_r=1&>
>>
>>         <http://www.nytimes.com/2013/**03/21/business/media/tonight-**
>> show-expected-to-return-to-**new-york-with-fallon.html?**
>> smid=tw-nytimes&_r=1&<http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/21/business/media/tonight-show-expected-to-return-to-new-york-with-fallon.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=1&>
>> >
>>
>>
>>         Leno's contract is up in the fall of 2014 but friends at NBC in
>>         NY say he
>>         may be bought out. Comcast brass in Philly have no use for Jay.
>>
>>
>>         The NY Times mentions work is progressing on a new studio at 30
>>         Rock which
>>         leads me to think 8H will finally get a long overdue makeover.
>>
>>
>>     What needs making over? I was in 8H about a year ago, and it boasts
>>     a very new HD control room and even newer audio rooms (two of them,
>>     in fact, one for music and one for everything else). The hallways
>>     and offices surrounding the studio were redone a few years ago, and
>>     the lobby's in good shape.
>>
>>     Aside from the walls themselves, and maybe the audience seating, I
>>     don't think there's much of anything in the 8H complex that's any
>>     older than a decade or so (except for the venerable camera jib
>>     that's apparently a Saturday Night Live landmark; IIRC, the same
>>     guy's been operating it since the start of the show.)
>>
>>     s
>>
>>
>>
>

From scott@fybush.com  Wed Mar 20 20:03:09 2013
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:03:09 -0400
Subject: Tonight Show will move back to New York
In-Reply-To: <CABnTNsOqq3bdro7z0BCja6GsVb-=O-6vXB4WCN1VgP-7hmp=oQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABnTNsPap4_VEnFN7O8U77RzK5ui9AMBGTwi4H045NUE_Z4WQw@mail.gmail.com>	<514A439D.4070104@fybush.com>
	<CABnTNsOqq3bdro7z0BCja6GsVb-=O-6vXB4WCN1VgP-7hmp=oQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <514A4E3D.2000209@fybush.com>

The only problem with 8G is that it's not especially audience-friendly, 
IIRC. You could build seating, of course, but is there the logistical 
space on 9 to move people in and out they way they can for 8H?

On 3/20/2013 7:47 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
> That would be John Pinto on the crane.
>
> Of course now that NBC Sports has moved to Stamford they could redo 8G
>
> Bill Carter says work has begun.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Scott Fybush <scott@fybush.com
> <mailto:scott@fybush.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 3/20/2013 6:54 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
>
>         http://www.nytimes.com/2013/__03/21/business/media/tonight-__show-expected-to-return-to-__new-york-with-fallon.html?__smid=tw-nytimes&_r=1&
>         <http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/21/business/media/tonight-show-expected-to-return-to-new-york-with-fallon.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=1&>
>
>
>         Leno's contract is up in the fall of 2014 but friends at NBC in
>         NY say he
>         may be bought out. Comcast brass in Philly have no use for Jay.
>
>
>         The NY Times mentions work is progressing on a new studio at 30
>         Rock which
>         leads me to think 8H will finally get a long overdue makeover.
>
>
>     What needs making over? I was in 8H about a year ago, and it boasts
>     a very new HD control room and even newer audio rooms (two of them,
>     in fact, one for music and one for everything else). The hallways
>     and offices surrounding the studio were redone a few years ago, and
>     the lobby's in good shape.
>
>     Aside from the walls themselves, and maybe the audience seating, I
>     don't think there's much of anything in the 8H complex that's any
>     older than a decade or so (except for the venerable camera jib
>     that's apparently a Saturday Night Live landmark; IIRC, the same
>     guy's been operating it since the start of the show.)
>
>     s
>
>


From lglavin@mail.com  Thu Mar 14 17:59:58 2013
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:59:58 -0400
Subject: Haitian Pirate Raided
Message-ID: <20130314215959.212560@gmx.com>

>----- Original Message -----
 >From: Garrett Wollman
 >Sent: 03/13/13 10:11 PM
>To: Bob DeMattia
>Subject: Re: Haitian Pirate Raided

<<On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:26:37 -0400, Bob DeMattia <bob.bosra@demattia.net> said: > And licensed stations have engineers that periodically monitor the > performance and output > of their transmitters. >Or they should, at any rate. There are plenty of stories about >low-budget stations that don't keep an engineer on staff and only call >in their consulting engineer when they get notice of something broken. >-GAWollman
A couple of years ago, I commented from time to time that the former WPAA FM 91.7 on the campus
of Phillips Academy in Andover, MA was transmitting an unmodulated carrier day after day, month
after month, presumably even when the school itself was shut down for holidays and vacations. I
suspect (ok, but can't prove) that the facility may have operated without any oversight by
the faculty or an engineer. Then one day, the signal disappeared. I drove over to the quadrangle that
was the location of the station's transmitter and antenna, and instead there was a hole in the ground where the 
building housing same had previously been found. It was only then that WPAA FM turned in its license and
had its calls deleted (they're now used on a campus internet station). I wonder if it ever affected the tower 
at Lawrence's municipal airport.

From sm720740@netzero.com  Sat Mar 16 02:44:19 2013
From: sm720740@netzero.com (sm720740@netzero.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 06:44:19 GMT
Subject: WBOQ-Gloucester VS WXEX-Exeter NH
Message-ID: <20130315.234419.3659.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

As a radio observer, I see a difference in the presentation that 104.9 WBOQ and 1540/92.1 WXEX offer in this "oldies" "adult contemporary" category. 104.9 plays it "safe"! 60's 70's 80's contemporary music. On the other hand, WXEX has the 50's to the 80's. Some classic rock, oldies, lots of "Lost 45's"(No copyright Infringement Barry Scott!), Motown, etc. WXEX in my opinion beats WBOQ hands down!  WXEX seems to know how to "mix" all those genres together and make that station sound so good. As for this "New Signal" BOQ has. There is no "treble" in the broadcast sound. Going to Boston Via 95 South in Winchester, the single struggles even more. I would have spent the money trying to figure out how to move WRBB (Northeaster Univ) signal to another spot on the Dial. How about 101.3?????? Wherever the"pirates" are broadcasting, theirs your spot for WRBB.
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From attychase@comcast.net  Thu Mar 21 17:11:06 2013
From: attychase@comcast.net (Attorney Chase)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:11:06 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
References: <mailman.1544.1363845335.783.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
Message-ID: <960A4A33769F4DC49E777DB27189C2AA@HOMEOFFICE>

Last point no matter who responds!

Peter: At least they didn't have any obnoxious talk radio show hosts who 
created and keep going this phony brouhaha either. The essence of my comment 
has to do with how talk radio has ceased to be a force for social good and 
all sorts of propaganda shenanigans have gone on in the name of free speech 
but actually is yellow journalism designed to get ratings. At least with the 
Fairness Doctrine radio stations were required every now and then, 
especially in their news and in times of emergency to operate in the public 
interest and a socially responsible way. Tell me how Fox is "fair and 
balanced" and I'll show you a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.

Joe: I didn't say the CSA combatants were guided by the US Constitution 
(which by the way hadn't applied the 14th's due process to the states at 
that point since the 14th wasn't enacted until after the final surrenders), 
I said they would be guided by their own CSA Constitution which did included 
it and apparently did. (See previous link to cite 
http://www.usconstitution.net/csa.html#A1Sec9  ) USA combatants of course 
were bound by the US Constitution.

> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:30:58 -0400
> From: Peter Murray <peterwmurray@gmail.com>
> To: Attorney Chase <attychase@comcast.net>
> Cc: boston-radio-interest@tsornin.bostonradio.org
> Subject: Re: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
> >
> Fascinating, but they didn't have any radio in the South. Or in the North,
> for that matter! :)
>
> -Peter

> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:38:35 -0400
> From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com>
> To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
> Subject: Re: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar

> Yes, but the USA didn't recognize the CSA and was not bound by the CSA
> constitution.
>
> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004
> 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com



From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Thu Mar 21 18:20:26 2013
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:20:26 -0400
Subject: WBOQ-Gloucester VS WXEX-Exeter NH
In-Reply-To: <20130315.234419.3659.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
References: <20130315.234419.3659.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CADC3Yg2AnJBNiLwsyG623Q9ry_v3XtFNYNiiW3NgvktT=zp5eA@mail.gmail.com>

I think when WXEX first launched, they were using the Dial Global DG Local
service with STORQ.. holding all the music and the voicetracks from Denver.
It looks like they're people are local now.


On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 2:44 AM, sm720740@netzero.com
<sm720740@netzero.com>wrote:

> As a radio observer, I see a difference in the presentation that 104.9
> WBOQ and 1540/92.1 WXEX offer in this "oldies" "adult contemporary"
> category. 104.9 plays it "safe"! 60's 70's 80's contemporary music. On the
> other hand, WXEX has the 50's to the 80's. Some classic rock, oldies, lots
> of "Lost 45's"(No copyright Infringement Barry Scott!), Motown, etc. WXEX
> in my opinion beats WBOQ hands down!  WXEX seems to know how to "mix" all
> those genres together and make that station sound so good. As for this "New
> Signal" BOQ has. There is no "treble" in the broadcast sound. Going to
> Boston Via 95 South in Winchester, the single struggles even more. I would
> have spent the money trying to figure out how to move WRBB (Northeaster
> Univ) signal to another spot on the Dial. How about 101.3?????? Wherever
> the"pirates" are broadcasting, theirs your spot for WRBB.
> ____________________________________________________________
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> Free and Fast Credit Score & monitoring alerts. TransUnion!
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From peterwmurray@gmail.com  Thu Mar 21 18:26:07 2013
From: peterwmurray@gmail.com (Peter Murray)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:26:07 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
In-Reply-To: <960A4A33769F4DC49E777DB27189C2AA@HOMEOFFICE>
References: <mailman.1544.1363845335.783.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
	<960A4A33769F4DC49E777DB27189C2AA@HOMEOFFICE>
Message-ID: <CAJ8HLP-DGRDEF6YYz1SL+Kk56vP0tzN2EyyLv0JYewx0nBR7bg@mail.gmail.com>

I'll accept that Fox is fair and balanced in the same way that MSNBC and
CNN are fair and balanced. But that is not talk about radio, per se.

To what "phony brouhaha" are you referring? Drone strikes on US citizens on
US soil without due process? It seems pretty straightforward to me, but I
don't think that discussion is appropriate here. Of course, our Esteemed
Moderator (and maintainer of this reflector) has the final word on that.

That said, I would argue that most TV and Radio is driven by the desire to
have listeners, because from them comes revenue (whether in the form of
donations/membership, advertisers or other "support"). "Reality"
programming, current "news" media, talk radio (from wherever on the
spectrum) is, for the most part, done with shareholder value in mind. And
most companies with revenue dependent on broadcast properties are looking
at their revenue numbers with increasing concern (if not outright panic).

Independent broadcasters like Bob Bittner/WJIB are somewhat of an
exception, though in his case (in theory) he needs to pay the bills to keep
the transmitters on-air, keep his stations legal and himself housed and
fed. But he is only beholden to himself, so he can do what he thinks is
best. I would argue that the concept of the Fairness Doctrine is outdated
given the general availability of media these days. Sure, there is a
limited *broadcast* spectrum, but there are many other ways to get your
message out if you think you're under-represented. That was less the case
before the 1990s.

ObBostonRadio: It is too bad that WFNX did not try to leverage that
(clearly) passionate audience for support. They stuck with the
advertiser-only model, and their niche format just could not generate
sufficient revenue following that method.

-Peter



On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Attorney Chase <attychase@comcast.net>wrote:

> Last point no matter who responds!
>
> Peter: At least they didn't have any obnoxious talk radio show hosts who
> created and keep going this phony brouhaha either. The essence of my
> comment
> has to do with how talk radio has ceased to be a force for social good and
> all sorts of propaganda shenanigans have gone on in the name of free speech
> but actually is yellow journalism designed to get ratings. At least with
> the
> Fairness Doctrine radio stations were required every now and then,
> especially in their news and in times of emergency to operate in the public
> interest and a socially responsible way. Tell me how Fox is "fair and
> balanced" and I'll show you a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.
>
> Joe: I didn't say the CSA combatants were guided by the US Constitution
> (which by the way hadn't applied the 14th's due process to the states at
> that point since the 14th wasn't enacted until after the final surrenders),
> I said they would be guided by their own CSA Constitution which did
> included
> it and apparently did. (See previous link to cite
> http://www.usconstitution.net/csa.html#A1Sec9  ) USA combatants of course
> were bound by the US Constitution.
>
> > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:30:58 -0400
> > From: Peter Murray <peterwmurray@gmail.com>
> > To: Attorney Chase <attychase@comcast.net>
> > Cc: boston-radio-interest@tsornin.bostonradio.org
> > Subject: Re: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
> > >
> > Fascinating, but they didn't have any radio in the South. Or in the
> North,
> > for that matter! :)
> >
> > -Peter
>
> > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:38:35 -0400
> > From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com>
> > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
> > Subject: Re: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
>
> > Yes, but the USA didn't recognize the CSA and was not bound by the CSA
> > constitution.
> >
> > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004
> > 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com
>
>
>

From wollman@bimajority.org  Fri Mar 22 00:13:51 2013
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:13:51 -0400
Subject: FDR Fireside Chat Reference In Scott's Tower Calendar
In-Reply-To: <CAJ8HLP-DGRDEF6YYz1SL+Kk56vP0tzN2EyyLv0JYewx0nBR7bg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1544.1363845335.783.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
	<960A4A33769F4DC49E777DB27189C2AA@HOMEOFFICE>
	<CAJ8HLP-DGRDEF6YYz1SL+Kk56vP0tzN2EyyLv0JYewx0nBR7bg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20811.55935.898175.374168@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:26:07 -0400, Peter Murray <peterwmurray@gmail.com> said:

> To what "phony brouhaha" are you referring? Drone strikes on US citizens on
> US soil without due process? It seems pretty straightforward to me, but I
> don't think that discussion is appropriate here. Of course, our Esteemed
> Moderator (and maintainer of this reflector) has the final word on that.

Your esteemed moderator agrees with you on that.

-GAWollman


From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Fri Mar 22 13:45:37 2013
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:45:37 -0400
Subject: Capstar wants WTKK calls
Message-ID: <CAJht-8PmoDH0jh2yNEhWyYreFQSY11pBHnav5+Mn3EC9g-Uevg@mail.gmail.com>

FCC digest says, "A request for WTKK dated 03/20/2013 has been filed
by CAPSTAR TX LLC."

That's Clear Channel, right? My first instinct is that these calls may
be headed, if they get them, to another talk
station CC may own, elsewhere. The signs don't indicate CC would want
to try talk again here, and 101.7's signal is
limited (plus Evolution just got started a few months ago), and
there's an older audience for talk (but in some ways
still desirable).

1200 didn't work out for them but 101.7 has the advantage of not being
on the Ancient Modulation dial. Still
political talk is fading, sports talk continues to rise (wouldn't
think they'd flip it to Fox Sports though). Given the luck
CC had with 1200 even with the "improved signal", I'm not so sure
they'd flip 101.7 yet again, this time to talk.
Probably meant for another market. But there is that very, very, very
distant possibility.

From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Sat Mar 23 02:22:31 2013
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 02:22:31 -0400
Subject: Capstar wants WTKK calls
Message-ID: <bmhvmu95o5lauyrfu1owpler.1364019751577@email.android.com>

What I meant was more stations switch to sports nationwide and political talk fades. Sports reaches more demos including younger, and ratings aren't everything. Bloomberg 1200 will reach older folks...who have money. Sports does well here and if it didn't, 1510 would be running anything from poli. talk to oldies to business to ethnic. 

And CBS/Cumulus and NBC/Dial Global the new kids on the block in sports networks are aggressive in getting affiliates and selling ads to those currently fascinated with college basketball "brackets". More sports, to make more money, coming to TV too with FoxSports1.

Sent from my Virgin Mobile phone

Laurence Glavin <lglavin@mail.com> wrote:

>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Bob Nelson
>>Sent: 03/22/13 01:45 PM
>>To: Boston Radio Group
>>Subject: Capstar wants WTKK calls
>>
>>FCC digest says, "A request for WTKK dated 03/20/2013 has been filed >by CAPSTAR TX LLC." 1200 didn't work out for them but 101.7 has the advantage of not being on the Ancient Modulation dial. Still political talk is fading, sports talk continues to rise (wouldn't think they'd flip it to Fox Sports though). "Sports talk continues to rise"? Tell that to CBS's KFNQ-AM 1090 in Seattle! Allaccess.com's website offers the raw 6+ rating for all reporting stations in Seattle and KFNQ does NOT appear. But their summary of ratings DOES include radio station cumes, and KFNQ appears under that metric, and their totallistenership wouldn't fill Fenway Park; not eve close. The fact tha KFNQ's cume does appear but not its raw rating tells me that the rating would be available if it were anythig close to decent. Here inthe Boston area, WEEI-AM's cume is abysmal. WUFC AM 1510, the former WWZN, recently added a couple of local shows, probably on a time-bartered basis. Maybe you or somebody could listen to these shows fora while and ascertain whether these hosts are giving out a phone number and getting any calls at all.


From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com  Sat Mar 23 02:51:40 2013
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 02:51:40 -0400
Subject: 101.7
References: <bmhvmu95o5lauyrfu1owpler.1364019751577@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <2011C404F6264F04ACE7AD39D79B9F88@s20035>


I have a feeling that Clear Channel is just testing this 
"dance/house/whatever" format they are running now.

It was something from IHeartRadio that didn't involve too much effort, was 
worth a try.....

The best thing that Clear Channel could do now is go talk on 101.7.

Right now they don't have a Boston affilliate for Hannity, Glen Beck, John 
and Ken (or is it Bob & Tom?), and some of the Fox News radio shows that 
they distribute.  (The could leave Rush and Coast-2-Coast on RKO.  They 
could run Leo Laporte, which the also distribute, to run during the Rush 
time period.)

The clould also clear all those weekend programs they own, In the Garden, 
Bill Cunningham, Jesse Jackson, Handel on the Law, At Home and Art Bell.

I would think this would be just as easy to run, would give them a male 
demo, and be an alternative to Entercom by being on FM.

Isn't this an eventuality?




From ssmyth@psualum.com  Sat Mar 23 08:49:42 2013
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 05:49:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Capstar wants WTKK calls
In-Reply-To: <bmhvmu95o5lauyrfu1owpler.1364019751577@email.android.com>
References: <bmhvmu95o5lauyrfu1owpler.1364019751577@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <1364042982.19813.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Bob wrote:
> More sports, to make more money, coming to TV too with FoxSports1.


Fox Sports 1 is not a "new" network. It's merely replacing the sports programming that airs on Speed. So instead of supercross, you'll see some Southland Conference basketball game.

From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Sat Mar 23 11:19:03 2013
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:19:03 -0400
Subject: Capstar wants WTKK calls
In-Reply-To: <42CD1C129F9D48138DF047D836ADC02F@MarkOTS3>
References: <bmhvmu95o5lauyrfu1owpler.1364019751577@email.android.com>
	<1364042982.19813.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<42CD1C129F9D48138DF047D836ADC02F@MarkOTS3>
Message-ID: <CAJht-8P9iR5bBe1yCcQYkGmM10eXXwxBECC6zovq1bXuusZDTw@mail.gmail.com>

It's a new branding of Speedvision yes but for all practical purposes
it will be a new network running many different sports, and a
challenge to ESPN and the various CBS and NBC
brands. College football, MLB (including playoffs) etc. and the more
sports they add the more they will wind up on cable systems. Murdoch
and company have a lot of hopes for it.

From markwats@comcast.net  Sat Mar 23 10:54:01 2013
From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson)
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:54:01 -0400
Subject: Capstar wants WTKK calls
References: <bmhvmu95o5lauyrfu1owpler.1364019751577@email.android.com>
	<1364042982.19813.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <42CD1C129F9D48138DF047D836ADC02F@MarkOTS3>

Sean Smyth wrote:

> Fox Sports 1 is not a "new" network. It's merely replacing the sports 
> programming that airs on Speed. So instead of supercross, you'll see some 
> Southland Conference basketball game.

  They also plan on airing some NASCAR races once they change to FS 1, come 
the Fall they'll have some college football, late Fall college basketball 
(games from conferences that Fox Sports has rights to) and next year some 
Major League Baseball games added to the mix. Don't be surprised to see them 
aggressively pursue college football/basketball conference packages that 
ESPN/CBS Sports/NBC Sports or various sports production outfits (Raycom, 
etc.) when they come up for renewal.

  Compared to ESPN, NBC Sports Network and CBS Sports Network, how many 
cable subscribers get the Speed network?

Mark Watson 



From ssmyth@psualum.com  Sat Mar 23 11:07:35 2013
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:07:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Capstar wants WTKK calls
In-Reply-To: <42CD1C129F9D48138DF047D836ADC02F@MarkOTS3>
References: <bmhvmu95o5lauyrfu1owpler.1364019751577@email.android.com>
	<1364042982.19813.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<42CD1C129F9D48138DF047D836ADC02F@MarkOTS3>
Message-ID: <1364051255.46334.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Mark Watson wrote:
> They also plan on airing some NASCAR races once they change to FS 1, come the 
> Fall they'll have some college football, late Fall college basketball (games 
> from conferences that Fox Sports has rights to) and next year some Major League 
> Baseball games added to the mix. Don't be surprised to see them aggressively 
> pursue college football/basketball conference packages that ESPN/CBS Sports/NBC 
> Sports or various sports production outfits (Raycom, etc.) when they come up for 
> renewal.


Yes, Fox has been stockpiling up sports rights for this reason. They temporarily dumped some of that content on FX in the last year or two. Fox also just signed a deal with the new Big East for Fox Sports 1.

(Fox also recently acquired a huge stake in the Yankees' YES Network. Can't remember what percentage it was.)


> Compared to ESPN, NBC Sports Network and CBS Sports Network, how many cable 
> subscribers get the Speed network?


Numbers I see for ESPN are close to 100 million. For Speed it's about 90 million -- but I'd guess Speed is on a non-basic tier in many of those homes (it is in mine). It's not in Comcast's interest to make it basic, especially with NBC Sports Network in the mix.

From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Sat Mar 23 11:35:40 2013
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:35:40 -0400
Subject: 101.7
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In some ways it could be possible though talk is declining. The loss
of WTKK does create an opening, though. Keep in mind of course that
the signal isn't as powerful as WTKK
was but it is right in Boston and reaches much of the area within 128.
For those outside of that area, they have WTAG Worcester, WHJJ
Providence, and WGIR Manchester NH
(WQSO Dover NH now simulcasts them)

> The best thing that Clear Channel could do now is go talk on 101.7.

The standard CC talker is local in morning drive, then Beck, Rush,
Hannity, maybe Mark
Levin or Andy Dean, etc. and finally Coast to Coast overnight. RKO now
has Rush, Levin,
and Coast to Coast. There are some syndie shows from Fox News talk
(John Gibson, Kilmeade and Friends), Cumulus, Talk Radio Network, etc.
not being heard. Savage is with Cumulus now I think, and Ingraham is
with Courtside Entertainment.

1200 didn't work out for them despite the signal improvements. 101.7
has the advantage of being on FM (and most people listen to FM). If
they wanted these shows cleared and felt they could get a good demo
and make some money, I could see it, but not so sure they'd be willing
to try it again. (If they did do it, they'd probably have to hire at
least one local host...Jeff Katz is available.) CC also syndicates Fox
Sports Radio which is currently without a home in Boston but would a
_fifth_ station (WEEI, WEEI-FM, WBZ-FM,
WUFC) do anything here aside from clearing shows like J.T. The Brick?

Mark of BRW was telling me that younger people don't care about "topic
radio". We saw
how WTKK was suffering (and some say "they weren't conservative
enough" or "it was
too much lifestyle radio"). If they did go talk they could get some OK
ratings and make
a bit of money, and indeed provide competition for Entercom, but I'm
not so sure they'll
take the plunge. CC does have one spoken word outlet here, though it's an LMA:
WXKS 1200 with Bloomberg Radio.

Of course talk is also heard on WBZ radio 8 pm till 5 am or something
(plus some shows
on WGBH including Eagan and Braude, WBUR, etc.) And for the prog talk fans,
maybe the likes of Schulz, Hartmann, Steph Miller etc. might work out
but it depends
on ratings and demos. Being on FM would be an advantage but would
political talk be the best solution for 101.7 right now?

From lglavin@mail.com  Thu Mar 21 18:37:44 2013
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:37:44 -0400
Subject: History Repeats Itself, This Time In Richmond, VA
Message-ID: <20130321223744.189160@gmx.com>

As we approach the first anniversary of the Great Boston TV Station Fricasseed Antenna, history has repeated itself, this time in Richmond, VA.
Atop a tower not far from the Virginia Capital City, sparks began to fly in the antenna providing over-the-air viewers in that market with
three of the broadcast television stations in that Metropolitan area. In Needham, it took five months for the malfunctioning
antenna to be lowered to the ground, shipped to its manufacturer for repairs, retuned to its home on Cedar Street and hoisted
into place. The affected stations, WGBH-TV, WBZ-TV, WCVB, WGBX and WSBK, operated with reduced power on auxiliary
antennas (I believe only WGBH-TV applied for an STA until the situation was fixed; maybe the others had long-ago-authorized
auxiliary antennas already). Now the Richmond stations will be forced to do the same or people not on cable of the dish
may have to watch some of their favorites shows at relatives' or neighbors' homes or at the nearest pub (and the problem with that is...).

Here's a link to a TV Spy story that also provides a link to the Richmond Times-Dispatch coverage. Subsequent to the article
at that paper, at least for now, there's a comment by me that some of you might quibble about:

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvspy/antenna-problem-causes-signal-disruption-at-3-richmond-stations_b84779

From sm720740@netzero.com  Thu Mar 21 19:18:38 2013
From: sm720740@netzero.com (sm720740@netzero.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 23:18:38 GMT
Subject: WBOQ-Gloucester VS WXEX-Exeter NH
Message-ID: <20130321.161838.30869.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>

I do recall WXEX running some "bird" type of service in the beginning. They do have "live" in house DJ's now.  They're also taking request via Email-Facebook and Phone (and its a 603 area code) all day so that means that they have full control of the music as well.When WXEX was running the "bird", Even they sounded a little homogenized. This "live and local" thing that they are running now is so much better. BTW, I meant to say "93 south" not "95 south"! Sorry!
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From lglavin@mail.com  Fri Mar 22 14:04:25 2013
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:04:25 -0400
Subject: Capstar wants WTKK calls
Message-ID: <20130322180425.138490@gmx.com>

>----- Original Message -----
>From: Bob Nelson
>Sent: 03/22/13 01:45 PM
>To: Boston Radio Group
>Subject: Capstar wants WTKK calls
>
>FCC digest says, "A request for WTKK dated 03/20/2013 has been filed >by CAPSTAR TX LLC." 1200 didn't work out for them but 101.7 has the advantage of not being on the Ancient Modulation dial. Still political talk is fading, sports talk continues to rise (wouldn't think they'd flip it to Fox Sports though). "Sports talk continues to rise"? Tell that to CBS's KFNQ-AM 1090 in Seattle! Allaccess.com's website offers the raw 6+ rating for all reporting stations in Seattle and KFNQ does NOT appear. But their summary of ratings DOES include radio station cumes, and KFNQ appears under that metric, and their totallistenership wouldn't fill Fenway Park; not eve close. The fact tha KFNQ's cume does appear but not its raw rating tells me that the rating would be available if it were anythig close to decent. Here inthe Boston area, WEEI-AM's cume is abysmal. WUFC AM 1510, the former WWZN, recently added a couple of local shows, probably on a time-bartered basis. Maybe you or somebody could listen to these shows fora while and ascertain whether these hosts are giving out a phone number and getting any calls at all.

From wollman@bimajority.org  Mon Mar 25 01:04:47 2013
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 01:04:47 -0400
Subject: FS1
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<<On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:54:01 -0400, "Mark Watson" <markwats@comcast.net> said:

>   Compared to ESPN, NBC Sports Network and CBS Sports Network, how many 
> cable subscribers get the Speed network?

More to the point: how many cable subs *know* that they get Speed?

I certainly couldn't tell you whether I get it or not without going
into the channel settings on my TiVo to enable it.  I suppose the poor
shlubs who are stuck with cableco-provided boxes don't have the option
of disabling channels they have no interest in, but if they put
national baseball games on FS1, I suppose I'll have little choice but
to enable it (assuming I get it at all).  I can't see having any
interest in anything else Murdoch might air.

Anyone know the current status of Universal Sports?  Comcast kicked it
off our system at the end of 2011, and they own(ed) a quarter of it.

-GAWollman

From kvahey@gmail.com  Mon Mar 25 01:15:02 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 01:15:02 -0400
Subject: FS1
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On DirecTV (625)

In Chicago Universal was on WMAQ 5.2 but it was pulled - and Comcast
doesn't carry it there either.

Makes no sense.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org>wrote:

> <<On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:54:01 -0400, "Mark Watson" <markwats@comcast.net>
> said:
>
> >   Compared to ESPN, NBC Sports Network and CBS Sports Network, how many
> > cable subscribers get the Speed network?
>
> More to the point: how many cable subs *know* that they get Speed?
>
> I certainly couldn't tell you whether I get it or not without going
> into the channel settings on my TiVo to enable it.  I suppose the poor
> shlubs who are stuck with cableco-provided boxes don't have the option
> of disabling channels they have no interest in, but if they put
> national baseball games on FS1, I suppose I'll have little choice but
> to enable it (assuming I get it at all).  I can't see having any
> interest in anything else Murdoch might air.
>
> Anyone know the current status of Universal Sports?  Comcast kicked it
> off our system at the end of 2011, and they own(ed) a quarter of it.
>
> -GAWollman
>

From kvahey@gmail.com  Mon Mar 25 03:21:54 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 03:21:54 -0400
Subject: History Repeats Itself, This Time In Richmond, VA
In-Reply-To: <20130321223744.189160@gmx.com>
References: <20130321223744.189160@gmx.com>
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There is a harsh reality with TV today - transmitters are a nuisance
especially in major markets.

The major stations provide cable with a fiber feed and OTA is a complete
afterthought.

The thinking of the sales people is that people watching OTA instead of
cable don't have the income that advertisers want.

To the bean counters, 9/11 proved that transmitters meant little to the
biggest stations. While the NYC stations scrambled to find a new xmtr
location the stations were being fed to cable direct.

In Eastern Mass are there any stations that Comcast actually uses an OTA
signal?











On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Laurence Glavin <lglavin@mail.com> wrote:
>
> As we approach the first anniversary of the Great Boston TV Station
Fricasseed Antenna, history has repeated itself, this time in Richmond, VA.
> Atop a tower not far from the Virginia Capital City, sparks began to fly
in the antenna providing over-the-air viewers in that market with
> three of the broadcast television stations in that Metropolitan area. In
Needham, it took five months for the malfunctioning
> antenna to be lowered to the ground, shipped to its manufacturer for
repairs, retuned to its home on Cedar Street and hoisted
> into place. The affected stations, WGBH-TV, WBZ-TV, WCVB, WGBX and WSBK,
operated with reduced power on auxiliary
> antennas (I believe only WGBH-TV applied for an STA until the situation
was fixed; maybe the others had long-ago-authorized
> auxiliary antennas already). Now the Richmond stations will be forced to
do the same or people not on cable of the dish
> may have to watch some of their favorites shows at relatives' or
neighbors' homes or at the nearest pub (and the problem with that is...).
>
> Here's a link to a TV Spy story that also provides a link to the Richmond
Times-Dispatch coverage. Subsequent to the article
> at that paper, at least for now, there's a comment by me that some of you
might quibble about:
>
>
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvspy/antenna-problem-causes-signal-disruption-at-3-richmond-stations_b84779

From kc1ih@mac.com  Mon Mar 25 03:21:31 2013
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 03:21:31 -0400
Subject: FS1
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Universal Sports ended at the end of 2011, and was re-launched as NBC Sports Channel.

Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH

Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse the brevity.

On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:04 AM, Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org> wrote:

> <<On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:54:01 -0400, "Mark Watson" <markwats@comcast.net> said:
> 
>>  Compared to ESPN, NBC Sports Network and CBS Sports Network, how many 
>> cable subscribers get the Speed network?
> 
> More to the point: how many cable subs *know* that they get Speed?
> 
> I certainly couldn't tell you whether I get it or not without going
> into the channel settings on my TiVo to enable it.  I suppose the poor
> shlubs who are stuck with cableco-provided boxes don't have the option
> of disabling channels they have no interest in, but if they put
> national baseball games on FS1, I suppose I'll have little choice but
> to enable it (assuming I get it at all).  I can't see having any
> interest in anything else Murdoch might air.
> 
> Anyone know the current status of Universal Sports?  Comcast kicked it
> off our system at the end of 2011, and they own(ed) a quarter of it.
> 
> -GAWollman


From kvahey@gmail.com  Mon Mar 25 05:01:42 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 05:01:42 -0400
Subject: FS1
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Larry you are dead wrong on that.

Versus became NBC Sports Network.

Universal still is a separate feed.

http://universalsports.com/


Now - why Comcast doesn't clear it????????????    No clue.



On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Larry Weil <kc1ih@mac.com> wrote:

> Universal Sports ended at the end of 2011, and was re-launched as NBC
> Sports Channel.
>
> Larry Weil
> Lake Wobegone, NH
>
> Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse the brevity.
>
> On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:04 AM, Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org>
> wrote:
>
> > <<On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:54:01 -0400, "Mark Watson" <
> markwats@comcast.net> said:
> >
> >>  Compared to ESPN, NBC Sports Network and CBS Sports Network, how many
> >> cable subscribers get the Speed network?
> >
> > More to the point: how many cable subs *know* that they get Speed?
> >
> > I certainly couldn't tell you whether I get it or not without going
> > into the channel settings on my TiVo to enable it.  I suppose the poor
> > shlubs who are stuck with cableco-provided boxes don't have the option
> > of disabling channels they have no interest in, but if they put
> > national baseball games on FS1, I suppose I'll have little choice but
> > to enable it (assuming I get it at all).  I can't see having any
> > interest in anything else Murdoch might air.
> >
> > Anyone know the current status of Universal Sports?  Comcast kicked it
> > off our system at the end of 2011, and they own(ed) a quarter of it.
> >
> > -GAWollman
>
>

From kc1ih@mac.com  Mon Mar 25 05:23:36 2013
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 05:23:36 -0400
Subject: FS1
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You're right, my bad!

Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH

Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse the brevity.

On Mar 25, 2013, at 5:01 AM, Kevin Vahey <kvahey@gmail.com> wrote:

> Larry you are dead wrong on that.
> 
> Versus became NBC Sports Network.
> 
> Universal still is a separate feed.
> 
> http://universalsports.com/
> 
> 
> Now - why Comcast doesn't clear it????????????    No clue.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Larry Weil <kc1ih@mac.com> wrote:
>> Universal Sports ended at the end of 2011, and was re-launched as NBC Sports Channel.
>> 
>> Larry Weil
>> Lake Wobegone, NH
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse the brevity.
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:04 AM, Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org> wrote:
>> 
>> > <<On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:54:01 -0400, "Mark Watson" <markwats@comcast.net> said:
>> >
>> >>  Compared to ESPN, NBC Sports Network and CBS Sports Network, how many
>> >> cable subscribers get the Speed network?
>> >
>> > More to the point: how many cable subs *know* that they get Speed?
>> >
>> > I certainly couldn't tell you whether I get it or not without going
>> > into the channel settings on my TiVo to enable it.  I suppose the poor
>> > shlubs who are stuck with cableco-provided boxes don't have the option
>> > of disabling channels they have no interest in, but if they put
>> > national baseball games on FS1, I suppose I'll have little choice but
>> > to enable it (assuming I get it at all).  I can't see having any
>> > interest in anything else Murdoch might air.
>> >
>> > Anyone know the current status of Universal Sports?  Comcast kicked it
>> > off our system at the end of 2011, and they own(ed) a quarter of it.
>> >
>> > -GAWollman
> 

From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Mon Mar 25 08:26:32 2013
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 08:26:32 -0400
Subject: WBOQ-Gloucester VS WXEX-Exeter NH
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References: <20130321.161838.30869.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>
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The Dial Global DG Local service WXEX had been running is GOOD, if utilized
properly.. and sounds alot better then a satelitte service since the jocks
and music are all on a hard drive.

Good to see WXEX is doing it local now.

Paul


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:18 PM, sm720740@netzero.com
<sm720740@netzero.com>wrote:

> I do recall WXEX running some "bird" type of service in the beginning.
> They do have "live" in house DJ's now.  They're also taking request via
> Email-Facebook and Phone (and its a 603 area code) all day so that means
> that they have full control of the music as well.When WXEX was running the
> "bird", Even they sounded a little homogenized. This "live and local" thing
> that they are running now is so much better. BTW, I meant to say "93 south"
> not "95 south"! Sorry
>

From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Mon Mar 25 21:20:30 2013
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:20:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 101.7
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> > The best thing that Clear Channel could do now is go
> > talk on 101.7.
> 
> 1200 didn't work out for them despite the signal
> improvements. If
> they wanted these shows cleared and felt they could get a
> good demo
> and make some money, I could see it, but not so sure they'd
> be willing
> to try it again. 

Well, first of all 1200AM had no night signal in about 40% of the market.  They were, in effect a daytimer.

Second, on 1200AM they had no access to younger demographics.  

Right now "Evolution 101.7" doesn't seem to serve any purpose.

Clearing the syndicated shows that are not cleared in the Boston market now, serves *some* purpose.  Doesn't have to do well ratings wise.

Plus, whatever audience they garner would be from Entercom/WRKO/WEEI.

Clear the syndicated shows....and maybe simulcast Matty for Morning Drive?  

Sound like a better plan for 101.7.  

After all, what advertiser is going to buy station #23.  And how low would the rates have to be for station #23.  





From scott@fybush.com  Mon Mar 25 22:21:58 2013
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:21:58 -0400
Subject: 101.7
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On 3/25/2013 9:20 PM, D. A. wrote:

> Clearing the syndicated shows that are not cleared in the Boston
> market now, serves *some* purpose.  Doesn't have to do well ratings
> wise.
>
> Plus, whatever audience they garner would be from
> Entercom/WRKO/WEEI.

If that had been CC's aim, they'd have done that with 101.7 in the first 
place...wouldn't they? At that point, they'd still have had Limbaugh and 
a local morning show with Jeff Katz.

It didn't make sense then, and still doesn't now, if only because the 
portion of the Boston market that 101.7 reaches is almost precisely the 
portion least likely to listen to CC's flavor of syndicated talk. Hard 
to imagine a worse intersection of signal and format, really...though 
WCRB on 99.5 might come close.

From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Mon Mar 25 23:00:43 2013
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 20:00:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 101.7
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> There seems to be absolutely no market in Boston for
> hard-core political opinion talk radio.? So why would a
> company like Clear Channel decide that's what they should do
> with their new $14 million baby?

Because clearing Beck, Hannity, etc...allows them to charge more for the spots on a network level.  Right now they have no Boston clearance.  And network shows have to be in the top 10-15 markets.  

> Clearance?? You mean they spent that money so they
> could clear a few more Gold Bond Powder ads to a handful of
> 60+ listeners?? 

Spend what money?   No, more like a few more dollars for Ford, GM, Geico, P&G, AT&T, etc.  It would be on FM, so it is assumed that the listeners would be much younger than the typical AM talker.  

Getting clearance for network programs is usually a high priority up the corporate chain.


From ssmyth@psualum.com  Mon Mar 25 22:20:34 2013
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:20:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 101.7
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D.A. wrote:
>Right now "Evolution 101.7" doesn't seem to serve any purpose.


It surely serves a purpose, otherwise Clear Channel wouldn't have plopped the format on that signal.

I'm assuming that purpose is to sync up with Kiss and Jam'n.?


From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Mon Mar 25 22:52:18 2013
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:52:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 101.7
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> >Right now "Evolution 101.7" doesn't seem to serve any
> purpose.
> 
> 
> It surely serves a purpose, otherwise Clear Channel wouldn't
> have plopped the format on that signal.

Because we all know Clear Channel never makes mistakes, right?

After all, they made a great choice with "The Harbor"...and Evolution 101.7 is lighting the world on fire, right?  

;-)




From marklaurence@mac.com  Mon Mar 25 22:49:45 2013
From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:49:45 -0400
Subject: 101.7
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On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:20 PM, D. A. <donald_astelle@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Clearing the syndicated shows that are not cleared in the Boston market now, serves *some* purpose.  Doesn't have to do well ratings wise.
> 
> Plus, whatever audience they garner would be from Entercom/WRKO/WEEI.

I don't get it.  We've seen 4 different companies try conservative talk, liberal talk, "live and local" talk, "Rush Radio" talk, "Revolution Radio" talk, and highly-paid local "superstar" talk.

None has been able to rise above #16 in the 25-54 demographic since PPMs entered Boston.  Every one has been a dismal failure.

There seems to be absolutely no market in Boston for hard-core political opinion talk radio.  So why would a company like Clear Channel decide that's what they should do with their new $14 million baby?

Clearance?  You mean they spent that money so they could clear a few more Gold Bond Powder ads to a handful of 60+ listeners?  

If they get tired of Evolution, I think they'll continue to throw random iHeartRadio formats on 101.7 until they find something that makes them a little money.  Or else they'll sell it to someone who truly doesn't care about ratings and programs brokered ethnic or religious programs by the hour.

Mark



From ssmyth@psualum.com  Mon Mar 25 23:30:10 2013
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 20:30:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 101.7
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Scott wrote:
> Hard to imagine a worse intersection of signal and format, really...though WCRB on 99.5 might come close.


Is it really that bad of a fit, though? There are some affluent suburbs north and northwest of the city (Winchester, Lexington, Concord, etc.) served rather well by 99.5.

Now if only WGBH could get its hands on one of those translator move-ins ...

From wollman@bimajority.org  Tue Mar 26 00:33:34 2013
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 00:33:34 -0400
Subject: 101.7
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<<On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:49:45 -0400, Mark Laurence <marklaurence@mac.com> said:

> If they get tired of Evolution, I think they'll continue to throw
> random iHeartRadio formats on 101.7 until they find something that
> makes them a little money.  Or else they'll sell it to someone who
> truly doesn't care about ratings and programs brokered ethnic or
> religious programs by the hour.

I really hate to suggest this, but I would note that Boston is one of
the few large markets EMF doesn't have a station in....  It would be
interesting to see whether they could actually make money, given how
much they'd have to pay for it and a population that has
proportionally fewer of that flavor of Protestant than other top-25
markets.  (That may be why they don't seem to have been in the running
to pick up 101.7 from Mindich when it was on the market.)

-GAWollman

From lspin@comcast.net  Tue Mar 26 00:04:51 2013
From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 00:04:51 -0400
Subject: 101.7
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What a waste of a good radio signal in a metro area...  And what community
is being served by this?



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If they get tired of Evolution, I think they'll continue to throw random
iHeartRadio formats on 101.7 until they find something that makes them a
little money.  Or else they'll sell it to someone who truly doesn't care
about ratings and programs brokered ethnic or religious programs by the
hour.

Mark



From wollman@bimajority.org  Tue Mar 26 00:46:06 2013
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 00:46:06 -0400
Subject: 101.7
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<<On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 20:30:10 -0700 (PDT), Sean Smyth <ssmyth@psualum.com> said:

> Is [WCRB] really that bad of a fit, though? There are some affluent
> suburbs north and northwest of the city (Winchester, Lexington,
> Concord, etc.) served rather well by 99.5.

> Now if only WGBH could get its hands on one of those translator move-ins ...

They have the 96.3 Beacon Hill translator (W242AA) already, which
relays 89.7's HD2 (it's outside the necessary contour to be a 99.5
translator, but the programming is the same but for 30 seconds of
delay).  It exists on that channel at all thanks to a waiver from 96.9
(granted by Granum, I think), so they would need Greater Media's
consent to do much more with it than it already does.

The signal that would make the most sense for them to get their hands
on, if they could, would be WZBC.  I'd be surprised if they haven't
already approached BC about it.  It's already third-adjacent to the
mothership, and has a decent signal in many of inner suburbs where
99.5's listeners live.

-GAWollman

From wollman@bimajority.org  Tue Mar 26 00:47:04 2013
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 00:47:04 -0400
Subject: 101.7
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<<On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 00:04:51 -0400, "Lou" <lspin@comcast.net> said:

> What a waste of a good radio signal in a metro area...  And what community
> is being served by this?

Why, Lynn, of course!  It even gets mentioned once an hour!

-GAWollman


From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com  Tue Mar 26 02:00:24 2013
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 02:00:24 -0400
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----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: 101.7


> On 3/25/2013 9:20 PM, D. A. wrote:
>
>> Clearing the syndicated shows that are not cleared in the Boston
>> market now, serves *some* purpose.  Doesn't have to do well ratings
>> wise.
>>
>> Plus, whatever audience they garner would be from
>> Entercom/WRKO/WEEI.
>
> If that had been CC's aim, they'd have done that with 101.7 in the first 
> place...wouldn't they?

Well, the braintrust at Clear Channel convinced themselves "The Harbor" 
would do well.

So, whatever they thought "in the first place" doesn't really count. 


From bob.bosra@demattia.net  Mon Mar 25 23:23:11 2013
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 23:23:11 -0400
Subject: 101.7
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*If that had been CC's aim, they'd have done that with 101.7 in the first
place...wouldn't they? At that point, they'd still have had Limbaugh and a
local morning show with Jeff Katz.
*

Wasn't TKK still talk when 101.7 went dance?

-Bob

From kvahey@gmail.com  Mon Mar 25 23:34:00 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 23:34:00 -0400
Subject: 101.7
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I think people forget that CC looks at the cluster as a whole - not
each station.

1200 was a costly mistake but Bloomberg is a safe partner as the checks
won't bounce.




On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Sean Smyth <ssmyth@psualum.com> wrote:

> D.A. wrote:
> >Right now "Evolution 101.7" doesn't seem to serve any purpose.
>
>
> It surely serves a purpose, otherwise Clear Channel wouldn't have plopped
> the format on that signal.
>
> I'm assuming that purpose is to sync up with Kiss and Jam'n.
>
>

From kvahey@gmail.com  Tue Mar 26 03:41:33 2013
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 03:41:33 -0400
Subject: 101.7
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Mindich was lucky that CC was willing to buy.

Entercom may have considered it - ( perhaps putting AAF on 101.7 and 97.7
to sports) but it wasn't worth the expense.

From hmglaz@att.net  Tue Mar 26 08:33:05 2013
From: hmglaz@att.net (Howard Glazer)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 05:33:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Universal Sports (was: FS1)
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Universal Sports was pulled from WVIT New Britain-Hartford's digital subchannels -- and thus, from Cox cable -- at the same time here in Connecticut. I'm not sure the channel is on any cable system anymore. It may be strictly a satellite and internet subscription-only offering. If it's not being offered to Comcast systems, I can't see it being offered anywhere else.
I liked Universal Sports, although it did tend to rerun events over and over and over, and the third- and fourth-string NBC announcing talent announcing most of the events (it was like listening to student sportscasters on college radio at times) obviously never left New York and was just dubbing commentary over feeds from overseas sites.
Howard

From aerie.ma@comcast.net  Tue Mar 26 09:43:25 2013
From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:43:25 -0400
Subject: Universal Sports (was: FS1)
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I think in the Boston area, Universal Sports was broadcast on WBIN digital,
so it was carried by Comcast. Comcast dropped it when WBIN stopped carrying
it, however. Now, since Comcast owns NBC-Universal, I can't imagine why they
dropped one of their own channels. My mom follows figure skating, and most
of the preliminaries for the national and international competitions are on
NBC-Universal, with only the edited finals on NBC itself where she can watch
them. The funny thing is, the Universal Sports website has a link to "demand
Universal Sports from your provider", when the company that owns them is one
of the largest providers.

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Universal Sports was pulled from WVIT New Britain-Hartford's digital
subchannels -- and thus, from Cox cable -- at the same time here in
Connecticut. I'm not sure the channel is on any cable system anymore. It may
be strictly a satellite and internet subscription-only offering. If it's not
being offered to Comcast systems, I can't see it being offered anywhere
else.
I liked Universal Sports, although it did tend to rerun events over and over
and over, and the third- and fourth-string NBC announcing talent announcing
most of the events (it was like listening to student sportscasters on
college radio at times) obviously never left New York and was just dubbing
commentary over feeds from overseas sites.
Howard


From wollman@bimajority.org  Tue Mar 26 14:19:46 2013
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:19:46 -0400
Subject: Universal Sports (was: FS1)
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<<On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:43:25 -0400, "Jim Hall" <aerie.ma@comcast.net> said:

> I think in the Boston area, Universal Sports was broadcast on WBIN digital,
> so it was carried by Comcast. Comcast dropped it when WBIN stopped carrying
> it, however.

No, Comcast actually carried US after it was withdrawn from broadcast
stations, as a non-broadcast service, for some months before dropping
it.

> Now, since Comcast owns NBC-Universal, I can't imagine why they
> dropped one of their own channels.

US is not majority-owned by Comcast.  It may be that they are looking
to get out of this partnership and have taken it off their systems as
a way to help it fail.

-GAWollman


From wollman@bimajority.org  Tue Mar 26 16:27:13 2013
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:27:13 -0400
Subject: Must Carry
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<<On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:53:26 -0400, "Paul Hopfgarten" <pariho@mail.com> said:

> Makes me wonder...  What are the must-carry rules for .2 and .3 TV
> signals.

None.  Must-carry applies only to the "primary" signal.  Carriage of
DTV subchannels is a matter for agreement between the broadcaster and
each individual MSO and satellite provider.

That will likely be different if the FCC moves ahead with "spectrum
sharing" (where multiple licensees share the same DTV carrier), but in
that case they will probably have different PSIP channel numbers as
well.  (The standard already supports this.)

-GAWollman


From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com  Wed Mar 27 02:02:45 2013
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 02:02:45 -0400
Subject: 101.7
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>> From: Bob DeMattia <bob.bosra@demattia.net>

>> *If that had been CC's aim, they'd
>> have done that with 101.7 in the first
>> place...wouldn't they? 
>>

Not really....as they would of had to compete with WTKK.

Now the market has changed.  

From pariho@mail.com  Tue Mar 26 14:53:26 2013
From: pariho@mail.com (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:53:26 -0400
Subject: Must Carry
Message-ID: <20130326185326.308340@gmx.com>

Makes me wonder...

What are the must-carry rules for .2 and .3 TV signals. Comcast in SE NH carries 5.2, 7.2 9.2, 11.2, 56.2, 50.2, 50.3, 60.2, but so far no 62.2. I would think COL Lawrence would therefore require it's carried. Comcast even carries WFXZ-CA 24, which has an over the air reach of...what???

OH...and unless it's because 21 Concord NH has no .2,.3,.4 like 68 Boston, why aren't those channels carried as well?

(I use PSIP #s instead of 20.2, 42.2, 41.2, 35.2, 35.3, 34.2 etc...

-Paul Hopfgarten
-Epping NH
----- Original Message -----
From: Garrett Wollman
Sent: 03/26/13 02:19 PM
To: Jim Hall
Subject: RE: Universal Sports (was: FS1)

<<On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:43:25 -0400, "Jim Hall" <aerie.ma@comcast.net> said: > I think in the Boston area, Universal Sports was broadcast on WBIN digital, > so it was carried by Comcast. Comcast dropped it when WBIN stopped carrying > it, however. No, Comcast actually carried US after it was withdrawn from broadcast stations, as a non-broadcast service, for some months before dropping it. > Now, since Comcast owns NBC-Universal, I can't imagine why they > dropped one of their own channels. US is not majority-owned by Comcast. It may be that they are looking to get out of this partnership and have taken it off their systems as a way to help it fail. -GAWollman

From desertedshores@yahoo.com  Thu Mar 28 18:52:50 2013
From: desertedshores@yahoo.com (G C)
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:52:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WSBK TV-38 Boston - Graphics & Music Question
Message-ID: <1364511170.4254.YahooMailNeo@web125304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know who produced the music and graphics package for WSBK TV-38 in Boston during the 70's and 80's for programming such as "Mystery Movie" "Movie 38", "Movie Greats" and "The Movie Loft"?

From karenmctrotsky@gmail.com  Fri Mar 29 06:16:19 2013
From: karenmctrotsky@gmail.com (Karen McTrotsky)
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:16:19 -0400
Subject: News/talk billings
Message-ID: <CAOWx1LaBW4f8ReBO27QbKmwfvNvx1tRqts0td23=5fmQa+AUiA@mail.gmail.com>

WTOP is again the top billing station in the US. There are five news and
talk stations in the Top 10, plus a sports talker and legendary AC WLTW.

Seven of Boston's top 10 rated stations have adult formats (I include
sports on that list)

Clear Channel, CBS andGreater Media have been blowing up stations to battle
for the kid-demo in Boston. It seems to be about 20 percent of the
audience, although the WXKX-FM piece includes a decent spread of 34+.

There will be big losers in this one.  It all makes me wonder if
intelligent talk will ultimately have a spot on commercial stations. Not
in-your-face conservative
name-calling, and not the silly attempts at news for the stupid seen in
other markets in what appears to have been a short-lived fad, but newstalk
based on intelligence the wayWRKO was based when it had O'Brien and
Jeghelian, Burns,
Williams and Brudnoy?  RKO's decline began when Gencorp exited Broadcasting
and the folkswho bought the station eventually added Limbaugh, whose
numbers covered up for the structural and perception damage that he
inflicted on the station. Of course the plummet was aided mightily when
Entercom management took over, continuing the death spiral that began under
the leadership of the people who pretended to be broadcaster --  Mr. Dodge
(who is now a condo developer), Mr. Shultz (now CEO of a health plan) and
Mr. Winn (now counting the millions he made when the company decided it
liked antennas more than broadcasting)

From scott@fybush.com  Fri Mar 29 21:37:59 2013
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:37:59 -0400
Subject: Must Carry
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On 3/26/2013 2:53 PM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote:
> Makes me wonder...
>
> What are the must-carry rules for .2 and .3 TV signals.

There are none. If a station elects must-carry, it has no leverage on 
the cable system to carry any subchannels. If it elects retrans consent, 
it can make carriage of one or more subchannels a condition of carriage.

> (I use PSIP #s instead of 20.2, 42.2, 41.2, 35.2, 35.3, 34.2 etc...

As well you should, since there's no such thing as "20.2" or "42.2" - 
WCVB's 5.2 subchannel actually rides on program #4 of the stream carried 
on RF 20.

s