From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Jul 1 07:50:06 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 07:50:06 -0400 Subject: Jen Brien gets WBZ (AM)'s overnight and Louise Morgan query In-Reply-To: <51D0EBB2.3030604@attorneyross.com> References: <2771D9BEAD11434BA075F41D1CC1617B@SatU205S5044> <07d601ce7270$a328b260$e97a1720$@garysicecream.com> <247103E058FA4AEFA6458FEF4A8ED24A@SatU205S5044> <51CB170D.6020203@donnahalper.com> <51CD0B04.5070103@attorneyross.com> <51CDD607.4070901@donnahalper.com> <3EF1FB9B-F287-43F2-BC7D-9EE34511D71D@mac.com> <51D0EBB2.3030604@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: To capitalize on the reputation WFNX had at 101.7..these days some say call letters aren't important, but why did Greater get the calls WROR for 105.7? Why did some stations here and elsewhere (Vermont) grab WMEX? While WFNX and what WXRV plays may not necessarily be the same, it's still alternative (maybe 92.5 is "adult album alternative"). While they do like using the nickname "the river", they did grab the WFNX calls for the 99.9 simulcast...and since the Haverhill signal is closer to Boston, why not flip them and start promoting that fact? In a similar sense, why did Mr Bittner grab the call letters WJIB for 740? The "Memories" station has been using memorable call letters from the past... On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:38 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 6/30/2013 5:51 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > > I have wondered if maybe they >> could flip flop the calls with 92.5 and go with the slogan "WFNX >> 92.5...the >> River..." So far, not yet. >> > > Why would they want to? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > > From mamros@mit.edu Mon Jul 1 09:12:16 2013 From: mamros@mit.edu (Shawn Mamros) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 09:12:16 -0400 Subject: Jen Brien gets WBZ (AM)'s overnight and Louise Morgan query In-Reply-To: References: <2771D9BEAD11434BA075F41D1CC1617B@SatU205S5044> <07d601ce7270$a328b260$e97a1720$@garysicecream.com> <247103E058FA4AEFA6458FEF4A8ED24A@SatU205S5044> <51CB170D.6020203@donnahalper.com> <51CD0B04.5070103@attorneyross.com> <51CDD607.4070901@donnahalper.com> <3EF1FB9B-F287-43F2-BC7D-9EE34511D71D@mac.com> <51D0EBB2.3030604@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <201307011312.r61DCG4J029276@outgoing.mit.edu> >To capitalize on the reputation WFNX had at 101.7..these days some say call >letters aren't important, but why did Greater get the calls WROR for 105.7? >Why did some stations here and elsewhere (Vermont) grab WMEX? While WFNX >and what WXRV plays may not necessarily be the same, it's still alternative >(maybe 92.5 is "adult album alternative"). [...] The River is very much AAA, and very different from what WFNX was. WFNX was definitely aiming at a much younger audience. The River plays songs all the way back from the late 60s / early 70s timeframe to today. WFNX never played anything as old as The River's oldest stuff. I used to be a regular 'FNX listener, but sometime around the 2001-03 timeframe, they changed over to a bunch of younger DJs who were far more abrasive than the "classic" 'FNX gang, and the music started getting to be grating to my ears as well. That was when I found The River, and I never switched back after that. Were 92.5 to switch to the WFNX calls, I'd consider that to be a negative development, honestly. -Shawn From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Jul 1 10:40:45 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 10:40:45 -0400 Subject: Jen Brien gets WBZ (AM)'s overnight and Louise Morgan query In-Reply-To: <201307011312.r61DCG4J029276@outgoing.mit.edu> References: <2771D9BEAD11434BA075F41D1CC1617B@SatU205S5044> <07d601ce7270$a328b260$e97a1720$@garysicecream.com> <247103E058FA4AEFA6458FEF4A8ED24A@SatU205S5044> <51CB170D.6020203@donnahalper.com> <51CD0B04.5070103@attorneyross.com> <51CDD607.4070901@donnahalper.com> <3EF1FB9B-F287-43F2-BC7D-9EE34511D71D@mac.com> <51D0EBB2.3030604@attorneyross.com> <201307011312.r61DCG4J029276@outgoing.mit.edu> Message-ID: Good point, though I still am left wondering why they bothered to get the WFNX calls for the 99.9 and other than a reported liner of "We're 99.9 per cent WFNX", are not making use of them the way they could. Indeed, music not the same but WXRV uses "Boston's Independent Radio" slogan and some folks who may have listened to FNX before might find one of their old favorites popping up on 92.5/99.9 (like XTC Generals and Majors from 80s) I do believe at least one FNX personality was or is at 92.5, Joanne Doody; correct? Yes, I don't think the latter day FNX image would jell with The River--if anything the sale of the station whose parent paper allied with the Occupy movement, to _Clear Channel_ of all people, was a bit shocking!-- but the image of "non-corporate, non-mainstream" media may be what they have in common. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Shawn Mamros wrote: > >To capitalize on the reputation WFNX had at 101.7..these days some say > call > >letters aren't important, but why did Greater get the calls WROR for > 105.7? > >Why did some stations here and elsewhere (Vermont) grab WMEX? While WFNX > >and what WXRV plays may not necessarily be the same, it's still > alternative > >(maybe 92.5 is "adult album alternative"). [...] > > The River is very much AAA, and very different from what WFNX was. WFNX > was definitely aiming at a much younger audience. The River plays songs > all the way back from the late 60s / early 70s timeframe to today. WFNX > never played anything as old as The River's oldest stuff. > > I used to be a regular 'FNX listener, but sometime around the 2001-03 > timeframe, they changed over to a bunch of younger DJs who were far > more abrasive than the "classic" 'FNX gang, and the music started getting > to be grating to my ears as well. That was when I found The River, and > I never switched back after that. Were 92.5 to switch to the WFNX calls, > I'd consider that to be a negative development, honestly. > > -Shawn > From sids1045@aol.com Mon Jul 1 11:27:24 2013 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:27:24 -0400 Subject: Jen Brien gets WBZ (AM)'s overnight and Louise Morgan query In-Reply-To: <201307011312.r61DCG4J029276@outgoing.mit.edu> References: <2771D9BEAD11434BA075F41D1CC1617B@SatU205S5044> <07d601ce7270$a328b260$e97a1720$@garysicecream.com> <247103E058FA4AEFA6458FEF4A8ED24A@SatU205S5044> <51CB170D.6020203@donnahalper.com> <51CD0B04.5070103@attorneyross.com> <51CDD607.4070901@donnahalper.com> <3EF1FB9B-F287-43F2-BC7D-9EE34511D71D@mac.com> <51D0EBB2.3030604@attorneyross.com> <201307011312.r61DCG4J029276@outgoing.mit.edu> Message-ID: "To capitalize on the reputation WFNX had at 101.7..these days some say call letters aren't important, but why did Greater get the calls WROR for 105.7? Why did some stations here and elsewhere (Vermont) grab WMEX?" Those changes were made in the days before PPM, which made call signs basically irrelevant when it came to measuring audience. In the non-PPM markets, where recall and diary mentions still mean something, call signs are still important. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Jul 1 11:05:01 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:05:01 -0400 Subject: Jimmy Myers on Touch Message-ID: http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/joe_fitzgerald/2013/06/star_s_hub_radio_career_has_been_touch_and_go The article does not mention that the station is broadcasting illegally. I guess "low powered" is a euphemism for "pirate". From chris2526@comcast.net Mon Jul 1 15:30:23 2013 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 15:30:23 -0400 Subject: Rehashing of call letters on an unrelated frequency Message-ID: This seems to keep happening with the same very poor results, the exception may be WROR but it?s success was probably not due to the call letters. With Greater Medias promotion, programming and improved signal from Prudential its likely that 105.7 would have taken the same track if the call letters had remained WVBF or something completely new. At the time WROR meant oldies to most listeners ?The Golden Great 98? I tend to think any success was in spite of the WROR call letters. From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Jul 2 01:21:28 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 01:21:28 -0400 Subject: Jen Brien gets WBZ (AM)'s overnight and Louise Morgan query In-Reply-To: References: <2771D9BEAD11434BA075F41D1CC1617B@SatU205S5044> <07d601ce7270$a328b260$e97a1720$@garysicecream.com> <247103E058FA4AEFA6458FEF4A8ED24A@SatU205S5044> <51CB170D.6020203@donnahalper.com> <51CD0B04.5070103@attorneyross.com> <51CDD607.4070901@donnahalper.com> <3EF1FB9B-F287-43F2-BC7D-9EE34511D71D@mac.com> <51D0EBB2.3030604@attorneyross.com> <201307011312.r61DCG4J029276@outgoing.mit.edu> Message-ID: <20946.25432.295192.118647@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Good point, though I still am left wondering why they bothered to get the > WFNX calls for the 99.9 and other than a reported liner of "We're 99.9 per > cent WFNX", are not making use of them the way they could. I think it's pretty obvious why Krazy Steve grabbed those calls and put them out on a station that nobody in the market listens to: they wanted to make sure that nobody else (who might actually be a real competitor) grabbed them. They had no real attachment to the WXRG callsign, anyway. It's only $65, pretty cheap insurance if you ask me. Of course, that doesn't imply that a new competitor couldn't make a go of it without the WFNX calls, it just makes it harder for anyone else to take advantage of the existing goodwill associated with that brand. -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jul 2 01:01:19 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 01:01:19 -0400 Subject: Jen Brien gets WBZ (AM)'s overnight and Louise Morgan query In-Reply-To: References: <2771D9BEAD11434BA075F41D1CC1617B@SatU205S5044> <07d601ce7270$a328b260$e97a1720$@garysicecream.com> <247103E058FA4AEFA6458FEF4A8ED24A@SatU205S5044> <51CB170D.6020203@donnahalper.com> <51CD0B04.5070103@attorneyross.com> <51CDD607.4070901@donnahalper.com> <3EF1FB9B-F287-43F2-BC7D-9EE34511D71D@mac.com> <51D0EBB2.3030604@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <51D25E9F.40606@attorneyross.com> On 7/1/2013 7:50 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > In a similar sense, why did Mr Bittner grab the call letters WJIB for > 740? The "Memories" > station has been using memorable call letters from the past... I've long wondered about that. The music he plays isn't all that much like the old WJIB (FM), and I've occasionally known people who weren't interested in listening to his station because they thought it was the same. I once heard him mention on LTAR that, at the time, the WCAS call was also available, and I thought that had he become WCAS, he might have gotten some people to at least give a listen to his station who might not have otherwise. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jul 2 01:05:31 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 01:05:31 -0400 Subject: Jimmy Myers on Touch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51D25F9B.3060601@attorneyross.com> On 7/1/2013 11:05 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/joe_fitzgerald/2013/06/star_s_hub_radio_career_has_been_touch_and_go > > The article does not mention that the station is broadcasting illegally. I > guess "low powered" is a euphemism for "pirate". Or maybe the reporter didn't realize that the station is illegal. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From ssmyth@psualum.com Tue Jul 2 07:29:57 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 04:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Jen Brien gets WBZ (AM)'s overnight and Louise Morgan query In-Reply-To: <51D25E9F.40606@attorneyross.com> References: <2771D9BEAD11434BA075F41D1CC1617B@SatU205S5044> <07d601ce7270$a328b260$e97a1720$@garysicecream.com> <247103E058FA4AEFA6458FEF4A8ED24A@SatU205S5044> <51CB170D.6020203@donnahalper.com> <51CD0B04.5070103@attorneyross.com> <51CDD607.4070901@donnahalper.com> <3EF1FB9B-F287-43F2-BC7D-9EE34511D71D@mac.com> <51D0EBB2.3030604@attorneyross.com> <51D25E9F.40606@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <1372764597.6463.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Counselor Ross writes:? "I've long wondered about that.? The music he plays isn't all that much? like the old WJIB (FM), and I've occasionally known people who weren't? interested in listening to his station because they thought it was the? same.? I once heard him mention on LTAR that, at the time, the WCAS call? was also available, and I thought that had he become WCAS, he might have? gotten some people to at least give a listen to his station who might? not have otherwise." The format was pretty similar to 96.9 when Bob went to those calls, at least from my (admittedly very limited) limited recollection of WJIB (FM). The station has definitely evolved, and there was an article last year (Phoenix? Globe?) mentioning how there is a sizable younger fan base now. From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jul 2 14:18:03 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:18:03 -0400 Subject: Jen Brien gets WBZ (AM)'s overnight and Louise Morgan query References: <2771D9BEAD11434BA075F41D1CC1617B@SatU205S5044> <07d601ce7270$a328b260$e97a1720$@garysicecream.com> <247103E058FA4AEFA6458FEF4A8ED24A@SatU205S5044> <51CB170D.6020203@donnahalper.com> <51CD0B04.5070103@attorneyross.com> <51CDD607.4070901@donnahalper.com> <3EF1FB9B-F287-43F2-BC7D-9EE34511D71D@mac.com> <51D0EBB2.3030604@attorneyross.com> <51D25E9F.40606@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: I'm quite sure, though, that the old WJIB (FM 96.9) had far more listeners than WCAS(AM 740) did--even on its (that is, WCAS's) best day. ----- Original Message ----- From: A Joseph Ross To: Bob Nelson Cc: Boston Radio Group Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:01 AM Subject: Re: Jen Brien gets WBZ (AM)'s overnight and Louise Morgan query On 7/1/2013 7:50 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > In a similar sense, why did Mr Bittner grab the call letters WJIB for > 740? The "Memories" > station has been using memorable call letters from the past... I once heard him mention on LTAR that, at the time, the WCAS call was also available, and I thought that had he become WCAS, he might have gotten some people to at least give a listen to his station who might not have otherwise. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jul 2 16:22:51 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:22:51 -0400 Subject: Jen Brien gets WBZ (AM)'s overnight and Louise Morgan query In-Reply-To: <1372764597.6463.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <2771D9BEAD11434BA075F41D1CC1617B@SatU205S5044> <07d601ce7270$a328b260$e97a1720$@garysicecream.com> <247103E058FA4AEFA6458FEF4A8ED24A@SatU205S5044> <51CB170D.6020203@donnahalper.com> <51CD0B04.5070103@attorneyross.com> <51CDD607.4070901@donnahalper.com> <3EF1FB9B-F287-43F2-BC7D-9EE34511D71D@mac.com> <51D0EBB2.3030604@attorneyross.com> <51D25E9F.40606@attorneyross.com> <1372764597.6463.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51D3369B.5090809@attorneyross.com> On 7/2/2013 7:29 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > The format was pretty similar to 96.9 when Bob went to those calls, at least from my (admittedly very limited) limited recollection of WJIB (FM). The station has definitely evolved, and there was an article last year (Phoenix? Globe?) mentioning how there is a sizable younger fan base now. The format is still pretty similar, but the music is not. A sizable younger fan base nowadays is not surprising. Few if any of them would remember the old WJIB, so the call letters would no longer put them off. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com From lglavin@mail.com Wed Jul 3 13:13:20 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 13:13:20 -0400 Subject: New WBZ-TV Weatherman Featured In TWC Doc Message-ID: <20130703171320.175810@gmx.com> Eric Fisher, the new Chief Meteorologist at WBZ-TV ( WBZ-TV is known for REPORTERS with long tenures, weather men and women, not so much lately) Eric Fisher, was a prominent personage in a recent Weather Channel documentary: "Weather That Changed History/Thunderstorm in Washington, DC". During the setup, re-enactors of the War of 1812 went through some of the maneuvers the British employed when they attacked the Nation's Capital in 1814. In the second-half, Eric described how the Potomac region's mid-August weather might be conducive to tornadic activity. He was on-screen for several minutes displaying how 2X4s shot out of a gun at 120 mph could level a wooden building or shatter into pieces on a brick structure. It's the practice of TWC to run through some weather-themed documentaries, then set them aside for a while, only to return weeks later. The run for this particular doc seems to over (but there are other "Weather That Changed History" episodes scheduled for this weekend. TWC also had a little going-away party for Eric this past Monday morning at 10:00 am that I happened to watch because we in the Northeast were having Floridian heat & humidity and a possibility of severe weather later (which did materialize). They showed Eric knee deep in snow (or clavicle-deep on Shelby Scott)in another city, or hanging on to something solid during a hurricane: the usual stuff. I assume he'll stand in front of the giant LED or plasma screen during storms while the usual gang of reporters will stand by the side of the road sticking a ruler into the snow and such as. From chris2526@comcast.net Thu Jul 4 02:58:48 2013 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 02:58:48 -0400 Subject: Leave it to Beaver in stereo? Message-ID: <88300FEFE17343E5B106E014828F4C70@chrisHP> I DVRed a few Leave it to Beavers off METV and this morning watching 1959 season 3 episode 5 where Beaver had to bring in a baby picture and June sends a bare butt photo to Miss Landers by mail. I was in bed with headphones on and realized WTF the musical effects are in stereo, never noticed this on any other episode but am going to watch for it as the newer ones are shown. Movies were commonly made in stereo and but TV production? I seemed like that was a long way off. Was this a fluke From chris2526@comcast.net Thu Jul 4 03:20:16 2013 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 03:20:16 -0400 Subject: Leave it to Beaver in stereo? Message-ID: <0506FFDE214546018A8C21C5EA1776C2@chrisHP> Watching it again, it?s the laugh track thats in stereo....strange From bill.smith@comcast.net Thu Jul 4 16:58:32 2013 From: bill.smith@comcast.net (Bill Smith) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 16:58:32 -0400 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 17, Issue 150 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is a mailing list with mainly populated by transmitter geeks who engage in weeks long arguments about what the day pattern was for WKBW in 1963 And red QSL cards the way we would read playboy. But sometimes they find a gem On Jul 4, 2013 12:00 PM, < boston-radio-interest-request@lists.bostonradio.org> wrote: > Send Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list submissions to > boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.BostonRadio.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-radio-interest > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > boston-radio-interest-owner@lists.BostonRadio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Boston-Radio-Interest digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. New WBZ-TV Weatherman Featured In TWC Doc (Laurence Glavin) > 2. Leave it to Beaver in stereo? (Chris Hall) > 3. Leave it to Beaver in stereo? (Chris Hall) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Laurence Glavin" > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org > Cc: > Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 13:13:20 -0400 > Subject: New WBZ-TV Weatherman Featured In TWC Doc > Eric Fisher, the new Chief Meteorologist at WBZ-TV ( WBZ-TV is known for > REPORTERS with long tenures, > weather men and women, not so much lately) Eric Fisher, was a prominent > personage in a recent Weather Channel > documentary: "Weather That Changed History/Thunderstorm in Washington, > DC". During the setup, re-enactors > of the War of 1812 went through some of the maneuvers the British employed > when they attacked the > Nation's Capital in 1814. In the second-half, Eric described how the > Potomac region's mid-August weather > might be conducive to tornadic activity. He was on-screen for several > minutes displaying how 2X4s shot out > of a gun at 120 mph could level a wooden building or shatter into pieces > on a brick structure. It's the > practice of TWC to run through some weather-themed documentaries, then set > them aside for a > while, only to return weeks later. The run for this particular doc seems > to over (but there are > other "Weather That Changed History" episodes scheduled for this weekend. > TWC also had a little > going-away party for Eric this past Monday morning at 10:00 am that I > happened to > watch because we in the Northeast were having Floridian heat & humidity > and a possibility of > severe weather later (which did materialize). They showed Eric knee deep > in snow (or clavicle-deep > on Shelby Scott)in another city, or hanging on to something solid during a > hurricane: the usual stuff. > I assume he'll stand in front of the giant LED or plasma screen during > storms while the usual gang of > reporters will stand by the side of the road sticking a ruler into the > snow and such as. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Chris Hall" > To: > Cc: > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 02:58:48 -0400 > Subject: Leave it to Beaver in stereo? > I DVRed a few Leave it to Beavers off METV and this morning watching 1959 > season 3 episode 5 where Beaver had to bring in a baby > picture and June sends a bare butt photo to Miss Landers by mail. I was in > bed with headphones on and realized WTF the musical > effects are in stereo, never noticed this on any other episode but am > going to watch for it as the newer ones are shown. Movies were > commonly made in stereo and but TV production? I seemed like that was a > long way off. Was this a fluke > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Chris Hall" > To: > Cc: > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 03:20:16 -0400 > Subject: Leave it to Beaver in stereo? > Watching it again, it?s the laugh track thats in stereo....strange > > _______________________________________________ > Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list > Boston-Radio-Interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > http://lists.BostonRadio.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-radio-interest > > From chris2526@comcast.net Thu Jul 4 23:29:49 2013 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 23:29:49 -0400 Subject: GET TV 66.3 Boston Message-ID: <2FE85DCE8F3E40818154C41DE6894257@chrisHP> Anyone know anything about the new GET TV on 66.3, excellent real classic movies tonight, one with Fred Astaire and the Artie Shaw Band and another one with a very young Jimmy Stewart. Can?t find any reference on Google though Its possible it may stand for Great Entertainment television. Supposed to start October first but seems to be on 24/7 already. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Jul 8 12:21:52 2013 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 12:21:52 -0400 Subject: Jen Brien gets WBZ (AM)'s overnight gig five nights a week for the next year (at least) References: <2771D9BEAD11434BA075F41D1CC1617B@SatU205S5044> <8D040985546DB6F-1758-30E49@Webmail-d111.sysops.aol.com> <8EB1B5909B834F1CB3B9531A1AB81BBB@s20035> <51CB5DD3.6080900@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <022D4F0B498C4A7F97362B19299CE114@Desktop> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" >What I always > liked about David Brudnoy, who was also a conservative, is he never > berated anyone Oh yes he did....but he did it with eloquence. >> Independent fact-checkers have shown he is That is, if you actually believe there are independent fact-checkers. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Jul 8 13:01:18 2013 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 13:01:18 -0400 Subject: Jen Brien gets WBZ (AM)'s overnight gig five nights a week for the next year (at least) In-Reply-To: <022D4F0B498C4A7F97362B19299CE114@Desktop> References: <2771D9BEAD11434BA075F41D1CC1617B@SatU205S5044> <8D040985546DB6F-1758-30E49@Webmail-d111.sysops.aol.com> <8EB1B5909B834F1CB3B9531A1AB81BBB@s20035> <51CB5DD3.6080900@donnahalper.com> <022D4F0B498C4A7F97362B19299CE114@Desktop> Message-ID: <51DAF05E.9060602@donnahalper.com> On 7/8/2013 12:21 PM, Don wrote: > >>> Independent fact-checkers have shown he is > > That is, if you actually believe there are independent fact-checkers As a skeptic, a researcher, and a professor, I don't "believe" much of anything. But I have found that by cross-checking such generally reputable sites as snopes.com and factcheck.org and politifact.com and Washington Post Factchecker, you can usually find some accurate information. I know some of my conservative friends have a belief (an unfounded one, as it turns out) that the folks at snopes are "liberal"-- they are not. One has been a registered Republican and the other is a Canadian emigr?e who has generally considered herself an independent. That said, fact-checking is worth doing, and the sites mentioned are the least partisan I have found. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Jul 8 14:02:19 2013 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 14:02:19 -0400 Subject: Jen Brien gets WBZ (AM)'s overnight gig five nights a week for the next year (at least) References: <2771D9BEAD11434BA075F41D1CC1617B@SatU205S5044> <8D040985546DB6F-1758-30E49@Webmail-d111.sysops.aol.com> <8EB1B5909B834F1CB3B9531A1AB81BBB@s20035> <51CB5DD3.6080900@donnahalper.com> <022D4F0B498C4A7F97362B19299CE114@Desktop> <51DAF05E.9060602@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <4A887909FFD543329BA527857A69F768@Desktop> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" >>>> Independent fact-checkers have shown he is >> >> That is, if you actually believe there are independent fact-checkers > > As a skeptic, a researcher, and a professor, I don't "believe" much of > anything. But I have found that by cross-checking such generally > reputable sites as snopes.com and factcheck.org and politifact.com and > Washington Post Factchecker, you can usually find some accurate > information. And the "information" you will find and glean is filtered through what you think is important and relevant. > I know some of my conservative friends have a belief (an unfounded one, as > it turns out) that the folks at snopes are "liberal"-- > they are not. One has been a registered Republican and the other is a > Canadian emigr?e who has generally considered herself an independent. > That said, fact-checking is worth doing, and the sites mentioned are the > least partisan I have found. Keyword: "least". From billohno@gmail.com Mon Jul 8 20:49:07 2013 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 20:49:07 -0400 Subject: WCAP Audio Message-ID: <804384ca-41b6-451f-925e-f11e7c020a0f@email.android.com> WCAP (980 Lowell) is noting on FB an audio quality upgrade. Curious as to the extent to the work performed. I won't be back in the area for a couple of weeks. Bill O'Neill -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From lglavin@mail.com Tue Jul 9 13:40:05 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 13:40:05 -0400 Subject: WCAP Audio Message-ID: <20130709174005.312720@gmx.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill O'Neill >Sent: 07/08/13 08:49 PM >To: Boston Radio Interest >Subject: WCAP Audio >WCAP (980 Lowell) is noting on FB an audio quality upgrade. Curious as to the extent to the work performed. >I won't be back in the area for a couple of weeks. >Bill O'Neill >-- >Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. If they're bringing in outside consulting engineers, maybe while they're in town they could amble on over to the Salem, NH transmitter site of WCCM-AM 1110, whose audio is beset with a persistent hum (no, it's not because it doesn't know the words) and a kind of rattling noise; or if the trouble is not at the transmitter, maybe check out the studio in Methuen, although the other Costa Eagle outlets sound OK. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Jul 13 09:51:39 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 09:51:39 -0400 Subject: WCAP Audio References: <804384ca-41b6-451f-925e-f11e7c020a0f@email.android.com> Message-ID: <57D817131DFE44749C5C299A8FEB472A@SatU205S5044> This is not directly related to the message to which I am replying--but it's not entirely unrelated either: Several weeks back, WCAP was reported here to be running at reduced power, especially at night. At one point, however, there was, IIRC, a message here that stated that WCAP was back to full power (day and night). Yesterday (7/12/2013), WCAP's day signal was loud and clear here in Arlington Heights. I can't say whether it sounded louder than before the problems that caused the temporarily reduced power, but that's a possibility. Last night, however, I would say that the signal (which, normally, would be stronger here at night than by day) was extremely weak. Was WCAP again operating with reduced night power yesterday? If so, was this the result of a recurrence of the problem that caused the reduced-power operation a few weeks ago? Or was there a different reason? (For example: "Dan, are you sure you were tuned to 980?") ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 8:49 PM Subject: WCAP Audio > WCAP (980 Lowell) is noting on FB an audio quality upgrade. Curious as to > the extent to the work performed. > > I won't be back in the area for a couple of weeks. > > Bill O'Neill > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sat Jul 13 13:28:52 2013 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 13:28:52 -0400 Subject: 1570 & 1580 AM Skywave? Message-ID: Late Night I am hearing Oldies on both 1570AM and 1580AM (Clearance Clearwater Revival, "How Long" by Ace, etc.) Anyone know what I might be hearing in the Boston suburbs at night? Thanks! From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Jul 13 14:33:25 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 14:33:25 -0400 Subject: 1570 & 1580 AM Skywave? References: Message-ID: 1570 is probably the station in a Montreal suburb--Laval, maybe. The calls have changed so I don't know them. I believe the power is 10 kW-U (probably DA-1). 1580 is somewhere along the north shore of Lake Ontario (east of due north of Rochester NY). I think the station used to be on 1350 but when the 50-kW Class A signal in Chicoutimi (CBJ?) went dark, the 1350 (or whatever) station applied to move to 1580 with considerably less than CBJ's 50 kW-U. The application was granted and 10 or so years ago, the station moved to 1580. Oh, and 1570 right here in in Beverly MA operates at night with some minimal power. If you were close enough to the transmitter (on the campus of Endicott College), that's likely what you were hearing. Most of the programming is in Spanish. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" To: "B-R-I" Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 1:28 PM Subject: 1570 & 1580 AM Skywave? > > Late Night I am hearing Oldies on both 1570AM and 1580AM (Clearance > Clearwater Revival, "How Long" by Ace, etc.) > > Anyone know what I might be hearing in the Boston suburbs at night? > > Thanks! > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Jul 13 15:28:35 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 15:28:35 -0400 Subject: 1570 & 1580 AM Skywave? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The 1580 which I have gotten is CKDO Durham ON http://www.ckdo.ca/ On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > 1570 is probably the station in a Montreal suburb--Laval, maybe. The calls > have changed so I don't know them. I believe the power is 10 kW-U (probably > DA-1). 1580 is somewhere along the north shore of Lake Ontario (east of due > north of Rochester NY). I think the station used to be on 1350 but when the > 50-kW Class A signal in Chicoutimi (CBJ?) went dark, the 1350 (or whatever) > station applied to move to 1580 with considerably less than CBJ's 50 kW-U. > The application was granted and 10 or so years ago, the station moved to > 1580. > > Oh, and 1570 right here in in Beverly MA operates at night with some > minimal > power. If you were close enough to the transmitter (on the campus of > Endicott College), that's likely what you were hearing. Most of the > programming is in Spanish. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" > To: "B-R-I" > > > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 1:28 PM > Subject: 1570 & 1580 AM Skywave? > > > > >> Late Night I am hearing Oldies on both 1570AM and 1580AM (Clearance >> Clearwater Revival, "How Long" by Ace, etc.) >> >> Anyone know what I might be hearing in the Boston suburbs at night? >> >> Thanks! >> >> > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sat Jul 13 14:07:38 2013 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 13:07:38 -0500 Subject: 1570 & 1580 AM Skywave? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 1570 is a French station, but I forget the calls.. and 1580 is CKDO.. but I forget where it's from. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Don wrote: > > Late Night I am hearing Oldies on both 1570AM and 1580AM (Clearance > Clearwater Revival, "How Long" by Ace, etc.) > > Anyone know what I might be hearing in the Boston suburbs at night? > > Thanks! > > From irw@well.com Sat Jul 13 21:35:21 2013 From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 18:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 1570 & 1580 AM Skywave? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <510134933.127578.1373765721757.JavaMail.root@well.com> 1570am CJLV Laval, QC 1580am CKDO Oshawa, ON - Blaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: "Don" Cc: "B-R-I" Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 2:07:38 PM Subject: Re: 1570 & 1580 AM Skywave? 1570 is a French station, but I forget the calls.. and 1580 is CKDO.. but I forget where it's from. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Don wrote: > > Late Night I am hearing Oldies on both 1570AM and 1580AM (Clearance > Clearwater Revival, "How Long" by Ace, etc.) > > Anyone know what I might be hearing in the Boston suburbs at night? > > Thanks! > > From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Jul 13 23:40:51 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 23:40:51 -0400 Subject: 1570 & 1580 AM Skywave? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 1570 is French but plays a lot of English oldies. Montreal is a strange market - CHOM believes 70% of their audience is French but BBM won't count Francophone listeners. CKGM has the same problem. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > 1570 is a French station, but I forget the calls.. and 1580 is CKDO.. but I > forget where it's from. > > > > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Don wrote: > >> >> Late Night I am hearing Oldies on both 1570AM and 1580AM (Clearance >> Clearwater Revival, "How Long" by Ace, etc.) >> >> Anyone know what I might be hearing in the Boston suburbs at night? >> >> Thanks! >> >> From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Jul 13 15:13:44 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 15:13:44 -0400 Subject: 1570 & 1580 AM Skywave? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Most likely CJLV 1570 Laval-Montreal On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Don wrote: > > Late Night I am hearing Oldies on both 1570AM and 1580AM (Clearance > Clearwater Revival, "How Long" by Ace, etc.) > > Anyone know what I might be hearing in the Boston suburbs at night? > > Thanks! > > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sun Jul 14 23:07:13 2013 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 1570 & 1580 AM Skywave? In-Reply-To: <510134933.127578.1373765721757.JavaMail.root@well.com> References: <510134933.127578.1373765721757.JavaMail.root@well.com> Message-ID: <1373857633.8786.YahooMailNeo@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> 1570am CJLV Laval, QC 1580am CKDO Oshawa, ON Both play music (oldies?) From lglavin@mail.com Wed Jul 10 17:38:08 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:38:08 -0400 Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? Message-ID: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> Neither listing of the Boston radio market Arbitron ratings I just viewed showed ANY numbers for WEEI-AM 850. In recent books, the numbers weren't great but they were better than let's say WKOX-AM 1430. Other Entercom outlets did make appearances (WRKO-AM down a bit even with no commercial competition). From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Jul 15 14:35:44 2013 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:35:44 -0400 Subject: Mass Broadcasters poise to take on pirates? Message-ID: Looks like the MBA is trying to make some headway on the issue of pirates. I think everyone who loves radio and doesn't want to see it devolve into a glorified CB Radio with anyone and everyone who can pick up a transmitter is suddenly a "broadcaster'. Maybe we should all send a quick email to our state legislators... From: http://www.massbroadcasters.org/mba-issues Pirate Radio: The Massachusetts Broadcasters Association has been the driving force behind Massachusetts House Bill 1679, an Act relative to an unauthorized (re: pirate) radio telecommunication. The bill would give the Massachusetts Attorney General the power to bring action upon a violator of the law. The bill, which can be found on MAlegislature.com, has been referred to the Joint Committee on the Judiciary. Broadcasters who are affected by pirate stations in Massachusetts are encouraged to tell the MBA their story by email to jordan@massbroadcasters.org or by phone at 800-471-1875. From billohno@gmail.com Mon Jul 15 12:10:51 2013 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:10:51 -0400 Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> References: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> Message-ID: <76818c77-6e5a-4e50-a945-97b6f57f979d@email.android.com> Inevitable but still sad that what was heritage WHDH has devolved to nothing but a 50,000 watt electric bill driver from National Grid. Bill O' Laurence Glavin wrote: >Neither listing of the Boston radio market Arbitron ratings I just >viewed showed ANY numbers for >WEEI-AM 850. In recent books, the numbers weren't great but they were >better than let's say WKOX-AM 1430. >Other Entercom outlets did make appearances (WRKO-AM down a bit even >with no commercial competition). -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jul 16 00:46:12 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 00:46:12 -0400 Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> References: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> Message-ID: <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> On 7/10/2013 5:38 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Neither listing of the Boston radio market Arbitron ratings I just viewed showed ANY numbers for > WEEI-AM 850. In recent books, the numbers weren't great but they were better than let's say WKOX-AM 1430. > Other Entercom outlets did make appearances (WRKO-AM down a bit even with no commercial competition). Could the ratings for WEEI-AM have been combined with ratings for WEEI-FM? How many who were called and asked what station they were listening to know the difference? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Jul 16 02:30:02 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 02:30:02 -0400 Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> References: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <20964.59498.830807.624327@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Could the ratings for WEEI-AM have been combined with ratings for > WEEI-FM? How many who were called and asked what station they were > listening to know the difference? Ratings haven't been done like that in many, many years. -GAWollman From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Jul 16 03:13:37 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:13:37 -0400 Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: <20964.59498.830807.624327@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> <20964.59498.830807.624327@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: I am guessing Entercom stopped paying for 850 ratings - they had been showing an 0.4 Entercom is finding out that 93.7 has MAJOR holes on the south shore and 103.7 doesn't help them. Switching 97.7 to WEEI would solve the signal hole - but how badly would that hurt WAAF? CBS rolled the dice 4 years ago by putting sports on 98.5 instead of 104.1 knowing 98.5 has a solid signal in Rhode Island. The gamble worked. You have 4 clusters in Boston and 3 of them are doing fine...........Entercom has issues. ( CC, CBS and GM are healthy ) On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:30 AM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < > said: > > > Could the ratings for WEEI-AM have been combined with ratings for > > WEEI-FM? How many who were called and asked what station they were > > listening to know the difference? > > Ratings haven't been done like that in many, many years. > > -GAWollman > > From sids1045@aol.com Tue Jul 16 07:01:06 2013 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> References: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <8D0502AE7AABF35-1218-EB2F8@webmail-m295.sysops.aol.com> "Could the ratings for WEEI-AM have been combined with ratings for WEEI-FM?" No. See below. "How many who were called and asked what station they were listening to know the difference?" All ratings data in the top 48 Arbitron markets is collected electronically, via the Personal People Meter (PPM), a device slightly larger than the late lamented pocket pager. No more diaries, no more phone calls. Stations sub-audibly encode their audio, using equipment supplied by Arbitron and carrying a unique identifier for each station, and the PPM picks up the data stream. At the end of each day, the PPM is placed in a dock which is connected to a phone line, and the data is sent to Arbitron. From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Jul 16 07:29:46 2013 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:29:46 -0400 Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: References: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> <20964.59498.830807.624327@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <022301ce8217$c6d4da20$547e8e60$@net> > Switching 97.7 to WEEI would solve the signal hole - but how badly > would that hurt WAAF? That actually is not true in my opinion. I'd say pretty confidently that 93.7 is a better signal on most of the south shore than 97.7 is. Even in Brockton, 97.7's COL, the signal won't stop on seek at times, even on a car radio. This is probably due to being mounted on the north side of the tower up there on the blue hills. This was a completely different story back when 97.7 was located in Abington. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jul 16 08:38:27 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:38:27 -0400 Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? References: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> <20964.59498.830807.624327@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <022301ce8217$c6d4da20$547e8e60$@net> Message-ID: <7EA001D4CA8B4845B761A0FD7F9AF3BE@SatU205S5044> Putting the antenna on the side of the tower closest to the market's major population centers doesn't always put the strongest signal on the side of the tower where the major population centers are. Sometimes, counter-inuitively, the strongest signal shows up on the side of the tower that you would think would be shadowed by the tower. My late friend Frank Toce discovered this when he built an FM in Oswego NY. He was forever answering questions from technical types about why he had put the antenna on the "back" of the tower. More astute questioners would ask how he managed to put a stonger signal into the CoL than that of his competition, whose tower was a short distance away and whose ERP and antenna height were similar. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Lehmann" To: "'Kevin Vahey'" ; "'Garrett Wollman'" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:29 AM Subject: RE: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? >> Switching 97.7 to WEEI would solve the signal hole - but how badly >> would that hurt WAAF? > > That actually is not true in my opinion. I'd say pretty confidently that > 93.7 is a better signal on most of the south shore than 97.7 is. Even in > Brockton, 97.7's COL, the signal won't stop on seek at times, even on a > car > radio. This is probably due to being mounted on the north side of the > tower > up there on the blue hills. This was a completely different story back > when > 97.7 was located in Abington. > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA > From ssmyth@psualum.com Tue Jul 16 09:04:46 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 06:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: References: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> <20964.59498.830807.624327@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1373979886.14131.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Kevin wrote: "Entercom is finding out that 93.7 has MAJOR holes on the south shore and 103.7 doesn't help them." I agree with Jeff's previous comments. I've lived on the South Shore for a year now, and rarely have issues with 93.7.? Also, it seems like 103.7's signal has degraded over the years. When it was WWRX, I'd be able to pull it in on a Walkman knockoff in Dorchester easily. Now? I can't get it in the car much north of the split. My understanding is the stick is in the same spot, too.? I'm not sure of 96.3's directional situation, but it seems like it fills in more holes on the South Shore (namely Plymouth) than 103.7 does, and I can get a decent signal on it as far north as Bridgewater. From Chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue Jul 16 11:30:50 2013 From: Chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:30:50 -0400 Subject: Bob Bittner Expands His Reach Message-ID: Congrats to Bob Bittner who puts his money where his mouth and heart are ? picking up yet another outlet for his group! >From All Access: ?BLUEBERRY BROADCASTING, LLC is selling Silent WFAU-A/GARDINER, ME to BOB BITTNER's BLUE JEY BROADCASTING COMPANY, INC. for $16,200.? Read more: http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/120332/maine-am-changes-hands#ixzz2ZDrpMdK9 Congrats and best wishes for continued broadcasting to Bob! --Chuck Igo From Chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue Jul 16 11:40:04 2013 From: Chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:40:04 -0400 Subject: Congrats to the New England 2013 Marconi Award Nominees Message-ID: Would like to share my props and congrats to my co-workers at Coast 93.1 (WMGX) in Portland for their nomination for the 2013 Marconi Award for Medium Market Station of the Year. Two years ago, they received the Marconi for Adult Contemporary Station of the Year. Also a tip of the cans to: Mark Ericson & Karen Kiley at WOKQ (Medium Market Personality of the Year) Carter Alan for Major Market Personality of the Year WEEI-FM for Legendary Station of the Year WJMN for Major Market Station of the Year WBZ for New/Talk Station of the Year, as well as WPRO WZLX for Rock Station of the Year and to WBZ-FM for Sports Station of the Year My feelings on industry awards such as these is that somehow, somewhere, our ?peers? thought we didn?t suck and were worthy of a pat-on-the-back. And we all know that a pat-on-the-back is about 18 inches away from being a kick-in-the-butt. The full list from the NAB is available at - http://www.nab.org/documents/newsroom/pressRelease.asp?id=3180 --Chuck Igo From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Jul 16 06:42:22 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 06:42:22 -0400 Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: References: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> <20964.59498.830807.624327@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: The ratings couldn't have been combined as the AM and FM had separate programming. I think when 850 and 93.7 simulcast they were combined and it had to be a 100 per cent simulcast, right? Did they stop paying for the 850 ratings, who knows. btw a new book I'm reading about Bob and Ray talks about the days when WHDH was lic. originally to Gloucester, doing fish reports (read by Bob Elliot, who would soon meet Mr. Goulding) and Henry Morgan joked the calls stood for We Handle Dead Haddock. Soon the station got a better signal with a stick closer to Boston, etc.--and the rights to the Braves (home games) and Red Sox. The historic day Jackie Robinson first played for the Dodgers WOULD have been on Boston radio--only the game wasn't at Braves Field. Of course our expert friend Donna Halper is credited for help on radio matters. The 850 frequency would for years, off and on, carry Boston baseball (these days maybe they only do ESPN Sun Night Baseball and some playoff games), and in earlier days "Matinee with Bob and Ray" was preceding it, etc. And now, they do carry ESPN which is good for those who want their talk shows, or occasional play by play, etc. But no ratings, at least not in the demos reported. Visited Pittsburgh and Cleveland; in the former, 93.7 KDKA-FM was nice and strong for Pirates games. CBS has "The Fan" at 92.3 which has signal issues; a move to 98.5 (ironic) would help them. CBS did land Browns games for the Fan. (Years ago I had Ken Coleman's book So You Want To Be a Sportscaster and it talked about his work doing Browns games. Both Coleman and his some Ken "Casey ("KC")" Coleman Jr. have since passed on. On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > I am guessing Entercom stopped paying for 850 ratings - they had been > showing an 0.4 > > Entercom is finding out that 93.7 has MAJOR holes on the south shore and > 103.7 doesn't help them. > > Switching 97.7 to WEEI would solve the signal hole - but how badly would > that hurt WAAF? > > CBS rolled the dice 4 years ago by putting sports on 98.5 instead of 104.1 > knowing 98.5 has a solid signal in Rhode Island. The gamble worked. > > You have 4 clusters in Boston and 3 of them are doing > fine...........Entercom has issues. ( CC, CBS and GM are healthy ) > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:30 AM, Garrett Wollman >wrote: > > > < joe@attorneyross.com> > > said: > > > > > Could the ratings for WEEI-AM have been combined with ratings for > > > WEEI-FM? How many who were called and asked what station they were > > > listening to know the difference? > > > > Ratings haven't been done like that in many, many years. > > > > -GAWollman > > > > > From billohno@gmail.com Tue Jul 16 14:13:04 2013 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:13:04 -0400 Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: References: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> <20964.59498.830807.624327@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: Bob Nelson, For you recommend Elliot's book? Bill O' Bob Nelson wrote: >The ratings couldn't have been combined as the AM and FM had separate >programming. I think when 850 and 93.7 simulcast they were combined and >it >had to be a 100 per cent simulcast, right? Did they stop paying for the >850 >ratings, who knows. > >btw a new book I'm reading about Bob and Ray talks about the days when >WHDH >was lic. originally to Gloucester, doing fish reports (read by Bob >Elliot, >who would soon meet Mr. Goulding) and Henry Morgan joked the calls >stood >for We Handle Dead Haddock. Soon the station got a better signal with a >stick closer to Boston, etc.--and the rights to the Braves (home games) >and >Red Sox. The historic day Jackie Robinson first played for the Dodgers >WOULD have been on Boston radio--only the game wasn't at Braves Field. >Of >course our expert friend Donna Halper is credited for help on radio >matters. The 850 frequency would for years, off and on, carry Boston >baseball (these days maybe they only do ESPN Sun Night Baseball and >some >playoff games), and in earlier days "Matinee with Bob and Ray" was >preceding it, etc. And now, they do carry ESPN which is good for those >who >want their talk shows, or occasional play by play, etc. But no ratings, >at >least not in the demos >reported. > >Visited Pittsburgh and Cleveland; in the former, 93.7 KDKA-FM was nice >and >strong for Pirates games. CBS has "The Fan" at 92.3 which has signal >issues; a move to 98.5 (ironic) would help them. CBS did land Browns >games >for the Fan. (Years ago I had Ken Coleman's book So You Want To Be a >Sportscaster and it talked about his work doing Browns games. Both >Coleman >and his some Ken "Casey ("KC")" Coleman Jr. have since passed on. > > >On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > >> I am guessing Entercom stopped paying for 850 ratings - they had been >> showing an 0.4 >> >> Entercom is finding out that 93.7 has MAJOR holes on the south shore >and >> 103.7 doesn't help them. >> >> Switching 97.7 to WEEI would solve the signal hole - but how badly >would >> that hurt WAAF? >> >> CBS rolled the dice 4 years ago by putting sports on 98.5 instead of >104.1 >> knowing 98.5 has a solid signal in Rhode Island. The gamble worked. >> >> You have 4 clusters in Boston and 3 of them are doing >> fine...........Entercom has issues. ( CC, CBS and GM are healthy ) >> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:30 AM, Garrett Wollman >> >wrote: >> >> > <> joe@attorneyross.com> >> > said: >> > >> > > Could the ratings for WEEI-AM have been combined with ratings for >> > > WEEI-FM? How many who were called and asked what station they >were >> > > listening to know the difference? >> > >> > Ratings haven't been done like that in many, many years. >> > >> > -GAWollman >> > >> > >> -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Jul 16 21:59:43 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:59:43 -0400 Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: References: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> <20964.59498.830807.624327@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: Yes, still reading it and I do recommend it so far based on what I've read. It's called Bob and Ray Keener Than Most Persons by David Pollock. And speaking of baseball the All Star Game is on TV and radio right now but I can't see it in my otherwise half decent motel near Rutland, VT. Their DirectTV has one channel that apparently doesn't come in--Fox. Rather than go into town to see part of the game at a bar, I've tried to stream the TV version online and it's choppy. So instead I'm resorting to a cheap walkman and trying to get it on either WVEI-AM 1440 Worcester or WFAN AM 660 NYC. No bigtime huge FM stations carrying ESPN radio here (101.3 has it in Champlain Valley but too far from here...) On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Bill O'Neill wrote: > Bob Nelson, For you recommend Elliot's book? > > Bill O' > > Bob Nelson wrote: >> >> The ratings couldn't have been combined as the AM and FM had separate >> programming. I think when 850 and 93.7 simulcast they were combined and it >> had to be a 100 per cent simulcast, right? Did they stop paying for the 850 >> ratings, who knows. >> >> btw a new book I'm reading about Bob and Ray talks about the days when WHDH >> was lic. originally to Gloucester, doing fish reports (read by Bob Elliot, >> who would soon meet Mr. Goulding) and Henry Morgan joked the calls stood >> for We Handle Dead Haddock. Soon the station got a better signal with a >> stick closer to Boston, etc.--and the rights to the Braves (home games) and >> Red Sox. The historic day Jackie Robinson first played for the Dodgers >> WOULD have been on Boston radio--only the game wasn't at Braves Field. Of >> course our expert friend Donna Halper is credited for help on radio >> matters. The 850 frequency would for years, off and on, carry Boston >> baseball >> (these days maybe they only do ESPN Sun Night Baseball and some >> playoff games), and in earlier days "Matinee with Bob and Ray" was >> preceding it, etc. And now, they do carry ESPN which is good for those who >> want their talk shows, or occasional play by play, etc. But no ratings, at >> least not in the demos >> reported. >> >> Visited Pittsburgh and Cleveland; in the former, 93.7 KDKA-FM was nice and >> strong for Pirates games. CBS has "The Fan" at 92.3 which has signal >> issues; a move to 98.5 (ironic) would help them. CBS did land Browns games >> for the Fan. (Years ago I had Ken Coleman's book So You Want To Be a >> Sportscaster and it talked about his work doing Browns games. Both Coleman >> and his some Ken "Casey ("KC")" Coleman Jr. have since passed on. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> >> I am guessing Entercom stopped paying for 850 ratings - they had been >>> showing an 0.4 >>> >>> >>> Entercom is finding out that 93.7 has MAJOR holes on the south shore and >>> 103.7 doesn't help them. >>> >>> Switching 97.7 to WEEI would solve the signal hole - but how badly would >>> that hurt WAAF? >>> >>> CBS rolled the dice 4 years ago by putting sports on 98.5 instead of 104.1 >>> knowing 98.5 has a solid signal in Rhode Island. The gamble worked. >>> >>> You have 4 clusters in Boston and 3 of them are doing >>> fine...........Entercom has issues. ( CC, CBS and GM are healthy ) >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:30 AM, Garrett Wollman >> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> <>>> >>> joe@attorneyross.com> >>> >>>> said: >>>> >>>> Could the ratings for WEEI-AM have been combined with ratings for >>>>> WEEI-FM? How many who were called and asked what station they were >>>>> >>>>> listening to know the difference? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Ratings haven't been done like that in many, many years. >>>> >>>> -GAWollman >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > From markwa1ion@aol.com Tue Jul 16 21:33:37 2013 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D050A4CB45833D-18EC-100C79@webmail-d242.sysops.aol.com> In the car 93.7 holds up fine from metro-Boston down to at least the Route 44 exit off Route 3 in Plymouth. 96.3 is fairly usable from around the Route 14 exit in Duxbury so I would say that Kingston and at least half of Plymouth are adequately served by both 93.7 and 96.3. On the other approach to the Cape, I-495 / 25 / 6 to Bourne Bridge, 103.7 is useful from I-495 jct. I-95 continuing down 495 into about Middleborough. The Wareham area might be the most tentative spot for Sox coverage since 93.7, 96.3, and 103.7 can all be scratchy in certain areas. The New Bedford and Fall River AM's (1420, 1480) are somewhat of an option during the day but probably not even as good as WTIC's skip at night. << Kevin wrote: "Entercom is finding out that 93.7 has MAJOR holes on the south shore and 103.7 doesn't help them." I agree with Jeff's previous comments. I've lived on the South Shore for a year now, and rarely have issues with 93.7. Also, it seems like 103.7's signal has degraded over the years. When it was WWRX, I'd be able to pull it in on a Walkman knockoff in Dorchester easily. Now? I can't get it in the car much north of the split. My understanding is the stick is in the same spot, too. I'm not sure of 96.3's directional situation, but it seems like it fills in more holes on the South Shore (namely Plymouth) than 103.7 does, and I can get a decent signal on it as far north as Bridgewater. >> As far as the original topic, 850 WEEI AM, its signal here in South Yarmouth is inferior to two of the other Boston 50 kW's (680 WRKO, 1030 WBZ) and not even as good as 590 WEZE and daytime 950 WROL, both of which are only 5 kW. They would probably book better ratings if Bob Bittner moved WJIB's programming over there or if someone gave it the WMEX callsign with 1955-1985 oldies. I have also read that a Montreal area station may reactivate on 850. That certainly won't help things for WEEI in west suburbia. I remember the old French Canadian making mincemeat out of then-WHDH along 495 in the Littleton area, a region that would have been considered "deep boonies" in the '50s but quite metro-Boston in current real-estate listings. Mark Connelly South Yarmouth, MA From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Jul 16 22:41:29 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:41:29 -0400 Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: References: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> <20964.59498.830807.624327@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: Not here, but thankfully I put on TuneIn.com and it is coming in, loud and clear! (I was getting a ballgame on 1410 but it turned out to be the minor league Rock Cats from New Britain on Hartford's WPOP...) And the TV here in the motel continues to show just a DirectTV symbol bouncing around as if it were a computer screen saver. Other channels, fine.. On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > WMVP 1000 Chicago should come in > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > >> Yes, still reading it and I do recommend it so far based on what I've >> read. It's called Bob and Ray Keener Than Most Persons by David Pollock. >> And speaking of baseball the All Star Game is on TV and radio right now >> but I can't see it in my otherwise half decent motel near Rutland, VT. >> Their DirectTV has one channel that apparently doesn't come in--Fox. Rather >> than go into town to see part of the game at a bar, I've tried to stream >> the TV version online and it's choppy. >> >> So instead I'm resorting to a cheap walkman and trying to get it on >> either WVEI-AM 1440 Worcester or WFAN >> AM 660 NYC. No bigtime huge FM stations carrying ESPN radio here (101.3 >> has it in Champlain Valley but too far from here...) >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Bill O'Neill wrote: >> >>> Bob Nelson, For you recommend Elliot's book? >>> >>> Bill O' >>> >>> Bob Nelson wrote: >>>> >>>> The ratings couldn't have been combined as the AM and FM had separate >>>> programming. I think when 850 and 93.7 simulcast they were combined and it >>>> had to be a 100 per cent simulcast, right? Did they stop paying for the 850 >>>> >>>> >>>> ratings, who knows. >>>> >>>> btw a new book I'm reading about Bob and Ray talks about the days when WHDH >>>> was lic. originally to Gloucester, doing fish reports (read by Bob Elliot, >>>> who would soon meet Mr. Goulding) and Henry Morgan joked the calls stood >>>> >>>> >>>> for We Handle Dead Haddock. Soon the station got a better signal with a >>>> stick closer to Boston, etc.--and the rights to the Braves (home games) and >>>> Red Sox. The historic day Jackie Robinson first played for the Dodgers >>>> >>>> >>>> WOULD have been on Boston radio--only the game wasn't at Braves Field. Of >>>> course our expert friend Donna Halper is credited for help on radio >>>> matters. The 850 frequency would for years, off and on, carry Boston >>>> >>>> >>>> baseball >>>> (these days maybe they only do ESPN Sun Night Baseball and some >>>> playoff games), and in earlier days "Matinee with Bob and Ray" was >>>> preceding it, etc. And now, they do carry ESPN which is good for those who >>>> >>>> >>>> want their talk shows, or occasional play by play, etc. But no ratings, at >>>> least not in the demos >>>> reported. >>>> >>>> Visited Pittsburgh and Cleveland; in the former, 93.7 KDKA-FM was nice and >>>> strong for Pirates games. CBS has "The Fan" at 92.3 which has signal >>>> >>>> >>>> issues; a move to 98.5 (ironic) would help them. CBS did land Browns games >>>> for the Fan. (Years ago I had Ken Coleman's book So You Want To Be a >>>> Sportscaster and it talked about his work doing Browns games. Both Coleman >>>> >>>> >>>> and his some Ken "Casey ("KC")" Coleman Jr. have since passed on. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I am guessing Entercom stopped paying for 850 ratings - they had been >>>>> showing an 0.4 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Entercom is finding out that 93.7 has MAJOR holes on the south shore and >>>>> 103.7 doesn't help them. >>>>> >>>>> Switching 97.7 to WEEI would solve the signal hole - but how badly would >>>>> that hurt WAAF? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> CBS rolled the dice 4 years ago by putting sports on 98.5 instead of 104.1 >>>>> knowing 98.5 has a solid signal in Rhode Island. The gamble worked. >>>>> >>>>> You have 4 clusters in Boston and 3 of them are doing >>>>> >>>>> fine...........Entercom has issues. ( CC, CBS and GM are healthy ) >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:30 AM, Garrett Wollman >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> <>>>>> >>>>> joe@attorneyross.com> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> said: >>>>>> >>>>>> Could the ratings for WEEI-AM have been combined with ratings for >>>>>>> WEEI-FM? How many who were called and asked what station they were >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> listening to know the difference? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ratings haven't been done like that in many, many years. >>>>>> >>>>>> -GAWollman >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >> >> > From m_carney@yahoo.com Tue Jul 16 22:13:40 2013 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: References: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> <20964.59498.830807.624327@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1374027220.99235.YahooMailNeo@web120501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Bob, Do you have an MLB.TV subscription? You can't access the Fox video but you can stream the ESPN audio that way. Maureen ________________________________ From: Bob Nelson To: Bill O'Neill Cc: Boston Radio Group Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: Re: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? Yes, still reading it and I do recommend it so far based on what I've read. It's called Bob and Ray Keener Than Most Persons by David Pollock. And speaking of baseball the All Star Game is on TV and radio right now but I can't see it in my otherwise half decent motel near Rutland, VT. Their DirectTV has one channel that apparently doesn't come in--Fox. Rather than go into town to see part of the game at a bar, I've tried to stream the TV version online and it's choppy. So instead I'm resorting to a cheap walkman and trying to get it on either WVEI-AM 1440 Worcester or WFAN AM 660 NYC. No bigtime huge FM stations carrying ESPN radio here (101.3 has it in Champlain Valley but too far from here...) On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Bill O'Neill wrote: > Bob Nelson, For you recommend Elliot's book? > > Bill O' > > Bob Nelson wrote: >> >> The ratings couldn't have been combined as the AM and FM had separate >> programming. I think when 850 and 93.7 simulcast they were combined and it >> had to be a 100 per cent simulcast, right? Did they stop paying for the 850 >> ratings, who knows. >> >> btw a new book I'm reading about Bob and Ray talks about the days when WHDH >> was lic. originally to Gloucester, doing fish reports (read by Bob Elliot, >> who would soon meet Mr. Goulding) and Henry Morgan joked the calls stood >> for We Handle Dead Haddock. Soon the station got a better signal with a >> stick closer to Boston, etc.--and the rights to the Braves (home games) and >> Red Sox. The historic day Jackie Robinson first played for the Dodgers >> WOULD have been on Boston radio--only the game wasn't at Braves Field. Of >> course our expert friend Donna Halper is credited for help on radio >> matters. The 850 frequency would for years, off and on, carry Boston >> baseball >> (these days maybe they only do ESPN Sun Night Baseball and some >> playoff games), and in earlier days "Matinee with Bob and Ray" was >> preceding it, etc. And now, they do carry ESPN which is good for those who >> want their talk shows, or occasional play by play, etc. But no ratings, at >> least not in the demos >> reported. >> >> Visited Pittsburgh and Cleveland; in the former, 93.7 KDKA-FM was nice and >> strong for Pirates games. CBS has "The Fan" at 92.3 which has signal >> issues; a move to 98.5 (ironic) would help them. CBS did land Browns games >> for the Fan. (Years ago I had Ken Coleman's book So You Want To Be a >> Sportscaster and it talked about his work doing Browns games. Both Coleman >> and his some Ken "Casey ("KC")" Coleman Jr.? have since passed on. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> >> I am guessing Entercom stopped paying for 850 ratings - they had been >>> showing an 0.4 >>> >>> >>> Entercom is finding out that 93.7 has MAJOR holes on the south shore and >>> 103.7 doesn't help them. >>> >>> Switching 97.7 to WEEI would solve the signal hole - but how badly would >>> that hurt WAAF? >>> >>> CBS rolled the dice 4 years ago by putting sports on 98.5 instead of 104.1 >>> knowing 98.5 has a solid signal in Rhode Island. The gamble worked. >>> >>> You have 4 clusters in Boston and 3 of them are doing >>> fine...........Entercom has issues. ( CC, CBS and GM are healthy ) >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:30 AM, Garrett Wollman >> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> <>>> >>> joe@attorneyross.com> >>> >>>> said: >>>> >>>> Could the ratings for WEEI-AM have been combined with ratings for >>>>> WEEI-FM?? How many who were called and asked what station they were >>>>> >>>>> listening to know the difference? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Ratings haven't been done like that in many, many years. >>>> >>>> -GAWollman >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Jul 16 22:21:51 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:21:51 -0400 Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: <1374027220.99235.YahooMailNeo@web120501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <20130710213808.158040@gmx.com> <51E4D014.3040208@attorneyross.com> <20964.59498.830807.624327@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <1374027220.99235.YahooMailNeo@web120501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hi, I don't and don't want to pay for it. I did have stream going for awhile but gave up and will try to hear more via radio,.(Maybe mlb.tv has it for free, may try...) What killed me was in 1999. I had to work and could barely hear the All Star Game--at Fenway--on 850. But I did set VCR timer to record it; got home, hoping to see the ceremonies with Ted Williams, etc.--only to find I didn't turn it "off" which would trigger the timer to record. Got nothing. Now I have a DVD-recorder and it will record via timer whether or not you turn it off (as long as you have the cable box set to what you want...) Could have set it for tonight but hey, the motel TV will have it...right? On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Maureen Carney wrote: > Bob, > > Do you have an MLB.TV subscription? You can't access the Fox video but > you can stream the ESPN audio that way. > > Maureen > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Bob Nelson > *To:* Bill O'Neill > *Cc:* Boston Radio Group > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:59 PM > *Subject:* Re: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? > > Yes, still reading it and I do recommend it so far based on what I've read. > It's called Bob and Ray Keener Than Most Persons by David Pollock. > And speaking of baseball the All Star Game is on TV and radio right now but > I can't see it in my otherwise half decent motel near Rutland, VT. Their > DirectTV has one channel that apparently doesn't come in--Fox. Rather than > go into town to see part of the game at a bar, I've tried to stream the TV > version online and it's choppy. > > So instead I'm resorting to a cheap walkman and trying to get it on either > WVEI-AM 1440 Worcester or WFAN > AM 660 NYC. No bigtime huge FM stations carrying ESPN radio here (101.3 has > it in Champlain Valley but too far from here...) > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Bill O'Neill wrote: > > > Bob Nelson, For you recommend Elliot's book? > > > > Bill O' > > > > Bob Nelson wrote: > >> > >> The ratings couldn't have been combined as the AM and FM had separate > >> programming. I think when 850 and 93.7 simulcast they were combined and > it > >> had to be a 100 per cent simulcast, right? Did they stop paying for the > 850 > >> ratings, who knows. > >> > >> btw a new book I'm reading about Bob and Ray talks about the days when > WHDH > >> was lic. originally to Gloucester, doing fish reports (read by Bob > Elliot, > >> who would soon meet Mr. Goulding) and Henry Morgan joked the calls stood > >> for We Handle Dead Haddock. Soon the station got a better signal with a > >> stick closer to Boston, etc.--and the rights to the Braves (home games) > and > >> Red Sox. The historic day Jackie Robinson first played for the Dodgers > >> WOULD have been on Boston radio--only the game wasn't at Braves Field. > Of > >> course our expert friend Donna Halper is credited for help on radio > >> matters. The 850 frequency would for years, off and on, carry Boston > >> baseball > >> (these days maybe they only do ESPN Sun Night Baseball and some > >> playoff games), and in earlier days "Matinee with Bob and Ray" was > >> preceding it, etc. And now, they do carry ESPN which is good for those > who > >> want their talk shows, or occasional play by play, etc. But no ratings, > at > >> least not in the demos > >> reported. > >> > >> Visited Pittsburgh and Cleveland; in the former, 93.7 KDKA-FM was nice > and > >> strong for Pirates games. CBS has "The Fan" at 92.3 which has signal > >> issues; a move to 98.5 (ironic) would help them. CBS did land Browns > games > >> for the Fan. (Years ago I had Ken Coleman's book So You Want To Be a > >> Sportscaster and it talked about his work doing Browns games. Both > Coleman > >> and his some Ken "Casey ("KC")" Coleman Jr. have since passed on. > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > >> > >> I am guessing Entercom stopped paying for 850 ratings - they had been > >>> showing an 0.4 > >>> > >>> > >>> Entercom is finding out that 93.7 has MAJOR holes on the south shore > and > >>> 103.7 doesn't help them. > >>> > >>> Switching 97.7 to WEEI would solve the signal hole - but how badly > would > >>> that hurt WAAF? > >>> > >>> CBS rolled the dice 4 years ago by putting sports on 98.5 instead of > 104.1 > >>> knowing 98.5 has a solid signal in Rhode Island. The gamble worked. > >>> > >>> You have 4 clusters in Boston and 3 of them are doing > >>> fine...........Entercom has issues. ( CC, CBS and GM are healthy ) > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:30 AM, Garrett Wollman < > wollman@bimajority.org > >>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> < >>>> > >>> joe@attorneyross.com> > >>> > >>>> said: > >>>> > >>>> Could the ratings for WEEI-AM have been combined with ratings for > >>>>> WEEI-FM? How many who were called and asked what station they were > >>>>> > >>>>> listening to know the difference? > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Ratings haven't been done like that in many, many years. > >>>> > >>>> -GAWollman > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > -- > > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > > > > From scott@fybush.com Tue Jul 16 22:20:02 2013 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:20:02 -0400 Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? In-Reply-To: <8D050A4CB45833D-18EC-100C79@webmail-d242.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D050A4CB45833D-18EC-100C79@webmail-d242.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <51E5FF52.1070907@fybush.com> On 7/16/2013 9:33 PM, Mark Connelly wrote: > In the car 93.7 holds up fine from metro-Boston down to at least the > Route 44 exit off Route 3 in Plymouth. 96.3 is fairly usable from > around the Route 14 exit in Duxbury so I would say that Kingston and at > least half of Plymouth are adequately served by both 93.7 and 96.3. On > the other approach to the Cape, I-495 / 25 / 6 to Bourne Bridge, 103.7 > is useful from I-495 jct. I-95 continuing down 495 into about > Middleborough. The Wareham area might be the most tentative spot for > Sox coverage since 93.7, 96.3, and 103.7 can all be scratchy in certain > areas. The New Bedford and Fall River AM's (1420, 1480) are somewhat of > an option during the day but probably not even as good as WTIC's skip at > night. In my experience, the Newton/Needham area is iffy. There's plenty of 93.7 signal there, but the "RF haze" from the FMs in the immediate area overloads all but the best of radios. I'm sure the same is true in the Back Bay. If the Sox went back to simulcasting on 850 (and, really, what good reason is there not to do so?), it would fix that problem very easily. From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jul 17 00:23:23 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 00:23:23 -0400 Subject: Bob Bittner Expands His Reach In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51E61C3B.7070707@attorneyross.com> Blue Jey Broadcasting? A separate corporation to own that station or a change in name for Bob Bittner Broadcasting? Why WFAU-A? What's the A for? Is there a WFAU-B that Bob didn't buy? That's a pretty amazing price for a radio station. I suppose it'll cost a lot more to get it back on the air, though. On 7/16/2013 11:30 AM, Chuck Igo wrote: > Congrats to Bob Bittner who puts his money where his mouth and heart are ? picking up yet another outlet for his group! > > >From All Access: ?BLUEBERRY BROADCASTING, LLC is selling Silent WFAU-A/GARDINER, ME to BOB BITTNER's BLUE JEY BROADCASTING COMPANY, INC. for $16,200.? > > Read more: http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/120332/maine-am-changes-hands#ixzz2ZDrpMdK9 > > Congrats and best wishes for continued broadcasting to Bob! > > --Chuck Igo > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/5994 - Release Date: 07/15/13 > > > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From rbello@belloassoc.com Wed Jul 17 00:59:57 2013 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 00:59:57 -0400 Subject: Bob Bittner Expands His Reach In-Reply-To: <51E61C3B.7070707@attorneyross.com> References: <51E61C3B.7070707@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: AM Wrong forum for BM On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:23 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > Blue Jey Broadcasting? A separate corporation to own that station or a > change in name for Bob Bittner Broadcasting? > > Why WFAU-A? What's the A for? Is there a WFAU-B that Bob didn't buy? > > That's a pretty amazing price for a radio station. I suppose it'll cost a > lot more to get it back on the air, though. > > > On 7/16/2013 11:30 AM, Chuck Igo wrote: > >> Congrats to Bob Bittner who puts his money where his mouth and heart are >> ? picking up yet another outlet for his group! >> >> >From All Access: ?BLUEBERRY BROADCASTING, LLC is selling Silent >> WFAU-A/GARDINER, ME to BOB BITTNER's BLUE JEY BROADCASTING COMPANY, INC. >> for $16,200.? >> >> Read more: http://www.allaccess.com/net-**news/archive/story/120332/** >> maine-am-changes-hands#**ixzz2ZDrpMdK9 >> >> Congrats and best wishes for continued broadcasting to Bob! >> >> --Chuck Igo >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/5994 - Release Date: 07/15/13 >> >> >> >> > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > > From chris2526@comcast.net Wed Jul 17 00:26:03 2013 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 00:26:03 -0400 Subject: Mounting FM antennas on towers Message-ID: There is a real science to the mounting of FM antennas on towers and structures called pattern studies which can cost upwards of $30,000 dollars depending on the situation. Antenna manufacturers build appropriate sized scale tower models and place an element on an antenna range. They will then send you many horizontal and vertical patterns for you to choose which best suit your needs. Mounting the antenna on the tower side of the city you want to cover could be a disaster depending on the structure itself, the opposite of what youm might think. Generally all antennas on a structure will exhibit directional characteristics, that?s why a top pole mount is best for non directional results, even a pole can change what you would get if the antenna is in free space. Variations can include face mount on three or four sided towers, corner mount or on offset brackets to provide space between the tower and the antenna itself Unless you have a DA license the antenna manufacturers will not design an antenna with parasitic elements to deliberately direct the energy but will with a wink and a nod show you patterns of mounting that will give you the best signal advantage. Directional FM antennas are a whole different mater. From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Jul 17 01:06:19 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 01:06:19 -0400 Subject: Mounting FM antennas on towers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20966.9803.635252.62209@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > There is a real science to the mounting of FM antennas on towers and > structures called pattern studies which can cost upwards of $30,000 > dollars depending on the situation. Antenna manufacturers build > appropriate sized scale tower models and place an element on an > antenna range. They will then send you many horizontal and vertical > patterns for you to choose which best suit your needs. I'm curious why they still do this. The physics is well within our ability to do computational modeling, so there should no longer be any need to build an actual physical model. If the AM people can "proof" their directional arrays using a computational model (method of moments) and some simple measurements, it should be possible to model VHF antennas the same way. -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jul 17 00:25:55 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 00:25:55 -0400 Subject: Congrats to the New England 2013 Marconi Award Nominees In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51E61CD3.4080901@attorneyross.com> "Legendary Station of the Year"? What does that even mean? Was that the consolation prize for not getting "Sports Station of the Year"? I think I can guess which one they would have preferred. On 7/16/2013 11:40 AM, Chuck Igo wrote: > Would like to share my props and congrats to my co-workers at Coast 93.1 (WMGX) in Portland for their nomination for the 2013 Marconi Award for Medium Market Station of the Year. Two years ago, they received the Marconi for Adult Contemporary Station of the Year. > > Also a tip of the cans to: > > Mark Ericson & Karen Kiley at WOKQ (Medium Market Personality of the Year) > > > Carter Alan for Major Market Personality of the Year > > WEEI-FM for Legendary Station of the Year > > WJMN for Major Market Station of the Year > > WBZ for New/Talk Station of the Year, > as well as WPRO > > WZLX for Rock Station of the Year > > and to WBZ-FM for Sports Station of the Year > > My feelings on industry awards such as these is that somehow, somewhere, our ?peers? thought we didn?t suck and were worthy of a pat-on-the-back. And we all know that a pat-on-the-back is about 18 inches away from being a kick-in-the-butt. > > The full list from the NAB is available at - > http://www.nab.org/documents/newsroom/pressRelease.asp?id=3180 > > > --Chuck Igo > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/5994 - Release Date: 07/15/13 > > > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Jul 17 01:59:59 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 01:59:59 -0400 Subject: Congrats to the New England 2013 Marconi Award Nominees In-Reply-To: <51E61CD3.4080901@attorneyross.com> References: <51E61CD3.4080901@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <20966.13023.963765.494738@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > "Legendary Station of the Year"? What does that even mean? Not clear that it really means much of anything, other than that the station is one of the ones they've given that award to. WBZ got it a few years back. -GAWollman From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Jul 17 01:02:09 2013 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 00:02:09 -0500 Subject: Bob Bittner Expands His Reach In-Reply-To: <51E61C3B.7070707@attorneyross.com> References: <51E61C3B.7070707@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: AllAccess just abbreviates things that way, instead of WFAU-AM or, WDDH-FM, they abbreviate with just the A or F. On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:23 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > Blue Jey Broadcasting? A separate corporation to own that station or a > change in name for Bob Bittner Broadcasting? > > Why WFAU-A? What's the A for? Is there a WFAU-B that Bob didn't buy? > > That's a pretty amazing price for a radio station. I suppose it'll cost a > lot more to get it back on the air, though. > > > > On 7/16/2013 11:30 AM, Chuck Igo wrote: > >> Congrats to Bob Bittner who puts his money where his mouth and heart are >> ? picking up yet another outlet for his group! >> >> >From All Access: ?BLUEBERRY BROADCASTING, LLC is selling Silent >> WFAU-A/GARDINER, ME to BOB BITTNER's BLUE JEY BROADCASTING COMPANY, INC. >> for $16,200.? >> >> Read more: http://www.allaccess.com/net-**news/archive/story/120332/** >> maine-am-changes-hands#**ixzz2ZDrpMdK9 >> >> Congrats and best wishes for continued broadcasting to Bob! >> >> --Chuck Igo >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/5994 - Release Date: 07/15/13 >> >> >> >> > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Jul 17 10:34:03 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:34:03 -0400 Subject: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? References: <8D050A4CB45833D-18EC-100C79@webmail-d242.sysops.aol.com> <51E5FF52.1070907@fybush.com> Message-ID: I suspect that there is very good reason for 850 to broadcast ESPN's network fare and NOT simulcast 93.7. Isn't Disney paying Entercom to run the ESPN network schedule on 850? I suppose that an alternative would be for 850 to run the Spanish version of ESPN (as does 1050 in New York), but with Boston's rather small Spanish-speaking population, I suspect that Disney would not pay Entercom as much to run ESPN en Espanol on 850 as it does for 850 to run ESPN en Anglais. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:20 PM Subject: Re: No Rating At All For WEEI-AM? > On 7/16/2013 9:33 PM, Mark Connelly wrote: >> In the car 93.7 holds up fine from metro-Boston down to at least the >> Route 44 exit off Route 3 in Plymouth. 96.3 is fairly usable from >> around the Route 14 exit in Duxbury so I would say that Kingston and at >> least half of Plymouth are adequately served by both 93.7 and 96.3. On >> the other approach to the Cape, I-495 / 25 / 6 to Bourne Bridge, 103.7 >> is useful from I-495 jct. I-95 continuing down 495 into about >> Middleborough. The Wareham area might be the most tentative spot for >> Sox coverage since 93.7, 96.3, and 103.7 can all be scratchy in certain >> areas. The New Bedford and Fall River AM's (1420, 1480) are somewhat of >> an option during the day but probably not even as good as WTIC's skip at >> night. > > In my experience, the Newton/Needham area is iffy. There's plenty of 93.7 > signal there, but the "RF haze" from the FMs in the immediate area > overloads all but the best of radios. I'm sure the same is true in the > Back Bay. If the Sox went back to simulcasting on 850 (and, really, what > good reason is there not to do so?), it would fix that problem very > easily. > From lglavin@mail.com Mon Jul 22 13:39:53 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:39:53 -0400 Subject: W275BH Better Hurry Up With CP Message-ID: <20130722173953.305090@gmx.com> Sunday evening, July 21st, I noticed that several FM stations in Maine were coming in better than usual. Several powerful FMs up there like WFNK 107.5 and WJJB 96.3 were quite strong, and I even picked up WARX 93.9 by finagling my antenna slightly to minimize WEEI-FM 93.7. Even a weaker signal like WSEW 87.7, which normally provides a sew-sew signal where I live was noticeably stronger than usual. So I wondered if by chance WBLM 102.9 was interfering with WNNW 800's translator W275BH 102.9, and it definitely was. Just a slight movement of the antenna I use on my main FM receiver for music caused W275BH, whose antenna is only a couple of miles away, to disappear, replaced by WBLM. I then tried a cheap radio with a rotary dial, and WBLM came in right over W275BH. WNNW's owners have received a CP to boost W275BH's ERP to 250 watts H&V with a directional antenna that nonetheless seems to put full signal strength due north all the way around toward Wilmington. I'm assuming they'll have to install a brand-new antenna to do it and it seems to me that now is the time to do it while FM signals from all over the place are enjoying extended coverage during the hot weather months, including 102.9 FMs in Maine of course and Hartford, CT. From chris2526@comcast.net Mon Jul 29 00:29:12 2013 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:29:12 -0400 Subject: WJIB song Message-ID: <44035DE59C8546CE93948F95004FF390@chrisHP> Tonight a song on WJIB brought back the memory of a formatic anomaly that would be impossible in 2013. When I was at KISS-108 (Top 40/Churban) and WXKS 1430 (Big Band/Standards/Swing) there were a few songs being played during the same period on both stations. The ones that stand out in my memory are: Frank Sinatra: New York New York Les and Larry Elgart: Various cuts off both Hooked on Swing albums Nat King Cole and Natalie Cole: Unforgettable (also played on WZOU) Others may have included Duets by Sinatra and Tony Bennett, I remember both SJW and Steve Rivers saying a good song is a good song and if its charting in the Top 40 Radio and Records cutting edge were playing it From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Jul 29 02:04:56 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 02:04:56 -0400 Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up Message-ID: Hey Howie has another option :) Jeff Katz will launch a morning drive news talk show that will lead into 12 hours of live broadcasting each weekday. There will be four shows in all, including ?Live from the Newsroom with Jeff Katz,? ?Morning Meeting with Jaclyn Cashman and Hillary Chabot,? ?The Michael Graham Show? and ?Sports Town with Jon Meterparel and Jen Royle.? - See more at: http://bostonherald.com/business/media_marketing/2013/07/herald_internet_radio_to_get_boston_connected#sthash.hnpEiB3K.dpuf From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Jul 29 09:18:48 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:18:48 -0400 Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up References: Message-ID: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> Anyone have any recent, credible figures for listenership to streaming audio vs OTA radio in the Boston market? If so, can you share? In my personal experience, streaming simply is WAY less convenient (the PC--even though it's a laptop--is WAY less portable than a radio). The PC is encumbered by a zillion wired connections to peripheral devices (external hard drives, document scanner, printer, DVD drive, etc). I have several radios that are just, well, radios. Is Wi-Fi sufficiently ubiquitous that you can just plug a Wi-Fi "radio" into an ac wall socket (or put a battery inside) and expect to tune in any of hundreds of streaming Internet "radio stations"? And what company provides the Wi-Fi service and how much (if anything) does the service cost per month? Can you buy an "Internet Radio for Dummies" book from Amazon.com? If no such book yet exists, seems like it is sorely needed. All of the Internet "radios" I've seen advertised appear to assume that 100% of the potential buyers just know the answers to all of the myriad connectivity questions. No way is that so. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 2:04 AM Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up > Hey Howie has another option :) > > > Jeff Katz will launch a morning drive news talk show that will lead > into 12 hours of live broadcasting each weekday. > There will be four shows in all, including ?Live from the Newsroom > with Jeff Katz,? ?Morning Meeting with Jaclyn Cashman and Hillary > Chabot,? ?The Michael Graham Show? and ?Sports Town with Jon > Meterparel and Jen Royle.? > > > - See more at: > > http://bostonherald.com/business/media_marketing/2013/07/herald_internet_radio_to_get_boston_connected#sthash.hnpEiB3K.dpuf > From aerie.ma@comcast.net Mon Jul 29 10:12:20 2013 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:12:20 -0400 Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <005e01ce8c65$a820a3e0$f861eba0$@ma@comcast.net> I don't know about "most companies" but where I work has wi-fi transceivers every 50 feet or so in our entire complex. They are gradually phasing out wired internet connections: any new purchase of a computer must have wi-fi. Cuts down on the costs I would think. I see public wi-fi in lots of places...Dunkin Donuts, pizza shops, many stores, commuter rail. And I suspect many people may listen to "radio" on their smart phones. I know SiriusXM has an app to stream their internet radio to smart phones. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 9:19 AM To: Kevin Vahey; Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up Anyone have any recent, credible figures for listenership to streaming audio vs OTA radio in the Boston market? If so, can you share? In my personal experience, streaming simply is WAY less convenient (the PC--even though it's a laptop--is WAY less portable than a radio). The PC is encumbered by a zillion wired connections to peripheral devices (external hard drives, document scanner, printer, DVD drive, etc). I have several radios that are just, well, radios. Is Wi-Fi sufficiently ubiquitous that you can just plug a Wi-Fi "radio" into an ac wall socket (or put a battery inside) and expect to tune in any of hundreds of streaming Internet "radio stations"? And what company provides the Wi-Fi service and how much (if anything) does the service cost per month? Can you buy an "Internet Radio for Dummies" book from Amazon.com? If no such book yet exists, seems like it is sorely needed. All of the Internet "radios" I've seen advertised appear to assume that 100% of the potential buyers just know the answers to all of the myriad connectivity questions. No way is that so. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 2:04 AM Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up > Hey Howie has another option :) > > > Jeff Katz will launch a morning drive news talk show that will lead > into 12 hours of live broadcasting each weekday. > There will be four shows in all, including "Live from the Newsroom > with Jeff Katz," "Morning Meeting with Jaclyn Cashman and Hillary > Chabot," "The Michael Graham Show" and "Sports Town with Jon > Meterparel and Jen Royle." > > > - See more at: > > http://bostonherald.com/business/media_marketing/2013/07/herald_internet_rad io_to_get_boston_connected#sthash.hnpEiB3K.dpuf > From francini@mac.com Mon Jul 29 10:21:30 2013 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:21:30 -0400 Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: Uh, a cell phone with the appropriate app and a dock? Or, for the car, a cell phone with the appropriate app + connection to your car stereo (bluetooth, aux in, cassette adapter)? This is aimed at the driving/listening-at-work crowd that uses iDevices and Androids. j On 29 Jul 2013, at 9:18, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Anyone have any recent, credible figures for listenership to streaming audio > vs OTA radio in the Boston market? If so, can you share? In my personal > experience, streaming simply is WAY less convenient (the PC--even though > it's a laptop--is WAY less portable than a radio). The PC is encumbered by a > zillion wired connections to peripheral devices (external hard drives, > document scanner, printer, DVD drive, etc). I have several radios that are > just, well, radios. Is Wi-Fi sufficiently ubiquitous that you can just plug > a Wi-Fi "radio" into an ac wall socket (or put a battery inside) and expect > to tune in any of hundreds of streaming Internet "radio stations"? And what > company provides the Wi-Fi service and how much (if anything) does the > service cost per month? Can you buy an "Internet Radio for Dummies" book > from Amazon.com? If no such book yet exists, seems like it is sorely needed. > All of the Internet "radios" I've seen advertised appear to assume that 100% > of the potential buyers just know the answers to all of the myriad > connectivity questions. No way is that so. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" > To: "Boston Radio Group" > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 2:04 AM > Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed > up > > >> Hey Howie has another option :) >> >> >> Jeff Katz will launch a morning drive news talk show that will lead >> into 12 hours of live broadcasting each weekday. >> There will be four shows in all, including ?Live from the Newsroom >> with Jeff Katz,? ?Morning Meeting with Jaclyn Cashman and Hillary >> Chabot,? ?The Michael Graham Show? and ?Sports Town with Jon >> Meterparel and Jen Royle.? >> >> >> - See more at: >> >> http://bostonherald.com/business/media_marketing/2013/07/herald_internet_radio_to_get_boston_connected#sthash.hnpEiB3K.dpuf >> > From ssmyth@psualum.com Mon Jul 29 10:20:38 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Dan wrote: > In my personal > experience, streaming simply is WAY less convenient (the PC--even though > it's a laptop This is your fatal mistake, Dan.? I do almost all of my streaming on my phone. When I'm in the house and listening to the Sox game, I'm streaming it on my iPhone and plugging it into the charging station/speakers. Even at work, I'll stream on my phone (which is connected to the office wireless network, so no data costs) as opposed to streaming through my work computer. It's been months since I've listened to an online stream through a traditional PC. Will some people listen through their work computer? Sure. I'd say the percentage of BHR's listeners via this method is a fraction of its total audience (insert joke here about an audience of four). I would love to know the penetration rate of smartphones in the Boston market. I would not be surprised if it were 50 percent -- and it's not just the under-35 crowd using them. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Jul 29 13:11:54 2013 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:11:54 -0400 Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51F6A25A.9020801@donnahalper.com> Sean wrote-- > This is your fatal mistake, Dan. I do almost all of my streaming on my phone. > Okay fine, I am going to "out"myself as an old fogie, I guess, but I too find it cumbersome to listen on a smart-phone. I know this is a generational thing, and I am certainly able to use my smart-phone for a wide range of tasks including making calls. But hooking up a speaker and plugging the phone into a charger is so much more time-consuming than just turning on the radio or listening via the audio-stream on my computer. The Herald is trying to attract younger listeners with an internet station, but will older listeners (who are the main consumers of angry talk radio) find it convenient to use their smart-phones to listen? Most of the research I've seen says there's a real generation gap in who uses phones (be they iPhones or Androids) to listen to music and news. From ssmyth@psualum.com Mon Jul 29 14:13:57 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: <51F6A25A.9020801@donnahalper.com> References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51F6A25A.9020801@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <1375121637.18925.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Donna wrote: "But hooking up a speaker and plugging the phone into a charger ... "? It's not even that complicated. Example:?http://www.amazon.com/iHome-Speaker-Clock-Radio-iPhone/sim/B001L9KMTI/2. And yes, there are cheaper makes/models available, this was the first one that came up on a Google search. Here's what it takes for me to stream through my phone. 1. Open app. 2. Navigate through app and do what I need to do. It's more difficult than punching up a radio preset, but not much. 3. Insert phone into dock. 4. Listen. Donna also wrote: "but will older listeners (who are the main consumers of angry talk radio) find it convenient to use their smart-phones to listen? Most of the research I've seen says there's a real generation gap in who uses phones (be they iPhones or Androids) to listen to music and news." This is the real question. Part of the older audience, IMO, has been the AM factor. Only "old" people listen to AM, the reasoning of some goes. (I'm 34, so I'm getting close to that territory!)? Could the same have been said 30 years ago about talk radio? I'm curious what the demos were for Gene Burns and Jerry Williams on WRKO in the early '80s. From francini@mac.com Mon Jul 29 15:18:13 2013 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:18:13 -0400 Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: <51F6A25A.9020801@donnahalper.com> References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51F6A25A.9020801@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: Hmmm. Donna, I'm also an old fogie as well (53), but this dog definitely learned some new tricks. In my car, my Bluetooth-enabled smartphone connects up instantly to my stereo, so all I have to do is start up whatever app I want to use to play Internet radio (like the one the Herald recommends), and I'm off to the races. OTOH, I'm in the computer industry myself (I manage the engineering networks at Dell in Nashua), so I'm probably an outlier on the "old people don't like new stuff" bell curve? John Francini On 29 Jul 2013, at 13:11, Donna Halper wrote: > Sean wrote-- >> This is your fatal mistake, Dan. I do almost all of my streaming on my phone. >> > > Okay fine, I am going to "out"myself as an old fogie, I guess, but I too find it cumbersome to listen on a smart-phone. I know this is a generational thing, and I am certainly able to use my smart-phone for a wide range of tasks including making calls. But hooking up a speaker and plugging the phone into a charger is so much more time-consuming than just turning on the radio or listening via the audio-stream on my computer. The Herald is trying to attract younger listeners with an internet station, but will older listeners (who are the main consumers of angry talk radio) find it convenient to use their smart-phones to listen? Most of the research I've seen says there's a real generation gap in who uses phones (be they iPhones or Androids) to listen to music and news. From atolz@comcast.net Mon Jul 29 15:44:27 2013 From: atolz@comcast.net (Alan Tolz) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:44:27 -0400 Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51F6A25A.9020801@donnahalper.com> <1375121637.18925.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jerry would do shows in the early-mid '80s where he'd ask for 'younger women only or under 30's only'as callers...not just sex survey shows, either. He was trying to show agencies that young people listen to talk radio on AM...he'd do pop culture surveys and the like, but at the end of the day, the audience, while cuming 500,000+ at its peak on WRKO in the diary era, was 50% A 55+... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Smyth" To: "Donna Halper" Cc: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 2:13 PM Subject: Re: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up > Donna wrote: "But hooking up a speaker and plugging the phone into a > charger ... " > > > It's not even that complicated. Example: > http://www.amazon.com/iHome-Speaker-Clock-Radio-iPhone/sim/B001L9KMTI/2. > And yes, there are cheaper makes/models available, this was the first one > that came up on a Google search. > > Here's what it takes for me to stream through my phone. > > 1. Open app. > 2. Navigate through app and do what I need to do. It's more difficult than > punching up a radio preset, but not much. > > 3. Insert phone into dock. > 4. Listen. > > Donna also wrote: "but will older listeners (who are the main consumers of > angry talk radio) find it convenient to use their smart-phones to listen? > Most of the research I've seen says there's a real generation gap in who > uses phones (be they iPhones or Androids) to listen to music and news." > > > This is the real question. Part of the older audience, IMO, has been the > AM factor. Only "old" people listen to AM, the reasoning of some goes. > (I'm 34, so I'm getting close to that territory!) > > Could the same have been said 30 years ago about talk radio? I'm curious > what the demos were for Gene Burns and Jerry Williams on WRKO in the early > '80s. > > From sids1045@aol.com Mon Jul 29 16:45:11 2013 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51F6A25A.9020801@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <8D05AB3A72E613C-FFC-3FC3@webmail-m150.sysops.aol.com> "I'm also an old fogie as well (53), but this dog definitely learned some new tricks. In my car, my Bluetooth-enabled smartphone connects up instantly to my stereo, so all I have to do is start up whatever app I want to use to play Internet radio (like the one the Herald recommends), and I'm off to the races.OTOH, I'm in the computer industry myself (I manage the engineering networks at Dell in Nashua), so I'm probably an outlier on the "old people don't like new stuff" bell curve?" Gotcha beat...62 here, and also doing lots of streaming at home and in the car. It may appear "cumbersome" to us, and in some ways it is, compared to using a radio, but remember: Young people literally live with their phones. Smartphones are rapidly becoming a one-stop for everything and are changing people's lives (and the radio business) in ways we haven't even begun to imagine. Streaming music and/or radio out of them is as natural to the young'uns as listening to Arnie Ginsburg or Larry Glick on the radio was to us. Remember: Our grandparents could never have conceived, when they were young, of listening to music that wasn't being made right in front of them. Music coming out of a piece of furniture (the size of old radios back then) was an entirely foreign concept. From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 29 17:21:12 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:21:12 -0400 Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51F6DCC8.3070809@attorneyross.com> On 7/29/2013 10:20 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > This is your fatal mistake, Dan. > > I do almost all of my streaming on my phone. When I'm in the house and listening to the Sox game, I'm streaming it on my iPhone and plugging it into the charging station/speakers. Even at work, I'll stream on my phone (which is connected to the office wireless network, so no data costs) as opposed to streaming through my work computer. It's been months since I've listened to an online stream through a traditional PC. I listen online at work, on my office computer, and I listen at home when I'm using my desk computer. I used to listen to radio when I was doing those things, but now I do much less often. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Jul 29 20:17:15 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:17:15 -0400 Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: <51F6DCC8.3070809@attorneyross.com> References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51F6DCC8.3070809@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: A friend does an all night talk show in Chicago - impossible to hear 670 in Cambridge with WFAN and WRKO side by side Computer comes in perfectly On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:21 PM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 7/29/2013 10:20 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > >> This is your fatal mistake, Dan. >> >> I do almost all of my streaming on my phone. When I'm in the house and >> listening to the Sox game, I'm streaming it on my iPhone and plugging it >> into the charging station/speakers. Even at work, I'll stream on my phone >> (which is connected to the office wireless network, so no data costs) as >> opposed to streaming through my work computer. It's been months since I've >> listened to an online stream through a traditional PC. > > > I listen online at work, on my office computer, and I listen at home when > I'm using my desk computer. I used to listen to radio when I was doing > those things, but now I do much less often. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com > From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Jul 29 21:16:58 2013 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:16:58 -0400 Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51F6A25A.9020801@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: On Jul 29, 2013, at 3:18 PM, John Francini wrote: > Hmmm. > > Donna, > > I'm also an old fogie as well (53), but this dog definitely learned some new tricks. In my car, my Bluetooth-enabled smartphone connects up instantly to my stereo, so all I have to do is start up whatever app I want to use to play Internet radio (like the one the Herald recommends), and I'm off to the races. One problem here is data usage. If you are grandfathered into an unlimited data plan that's great, but these are not being offered to new customers. Streaming eats up a lot of data. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Jul 29 22:30:45 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 22:30:45 -0400 Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: <51F6DCC8.3070809@attorneyross.com> References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51F6DCC8.3070809@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <20983.9557.310700.233189@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I listen online at work, on my office computer, and I listen at home > when I'm using my desk computer. I used to listen to radio when I was > doing those things, but now I do much less often. For office workers of all kinds, it is often much easier to listen to streaming deep in the bowels of their cube-farm office environment than it is to listen to an actual radio. We may find that people who work outdoors -- construction workers, landscapers, etc. -- are the last bastion of broadcast radio. Unlike office workers, they generally can't wear headphones and are expected to communicate verbally with one another in the course of their jobs. -GAWollman From map@mapinternet.com Wed Jul 31 09:06:13 2013 From: map@mapinternet.com (M. Casey) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:06:13 -0400 Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51F6A25A.9020801@donnahalper.com> <1375121637.18925.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0A2BF48AD01548C996396892CDDD1B6F@CASEYPC> The Herald will be lucky if this is a success. They will need to do some serious, and continuous, promotion. Our daily Information & Entertainment choices are extremely wide now. That greatly fragments the market. For the average person 20 or 30 yrs ago, in most markets they had a choice of between 10 and 40 AM & FM stations, and whatever CD's, cassettes, or records they owned. Now, for that same average person, there's still 10-40 AM & FM stations, and 1000's of on-line stations and 1000's of songs available in home, car or pedestrian via phone and computer, and the Sirius/XM stations, etc. There is opportunity for new on-line stations, but all the markets are seriously fragmented. That will make it a real challenge for newcomers in the "radio station" field, be it internet or broadcast, to be successful. Mark Casey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Tolz" To: "Sean Smyth" ; "Donna Halper" Cc: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up Jerry would do shows in the early-mid '80s where he'd ask for 'younger women only or under 30's only'as callers...not just sex survey shows, either. He was trying to show agencies that young people listen to talk radio on AM...he'd do pop culture surveys and the like, but at the end of the day, the audience, while cuming 500,000+ at its peak on WRKO in the diary era, was 50% A 55+... From ssmyth@psualum.com Wed Jul 31 14:06:47 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: <0A2BF48AD01548C996396892CDDD1B6F@CASEYPC> References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51F6A25A.9020801@donnahalper.com> <1375121637.18925.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <0A2BF48AD01548C996396892CDDD1B6F@CASEYPC> Message-ID: <1375294007.50931.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Mark Casey wrote: > The Herald will be lucky if this is a success.? Define "success" -- the Herald's idea of "success" is likely different than what is traditionally considered "success" by many in broadcast media. From hopfgarten@mail.com Mon Jul 29 19:29:34 2013 From: hopfgarten@mail.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:29:34 -0400 Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51F6A25A.9020801@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: Actually, where this all comes down to is poor ($) listeners and the old crowd will be the last of the terrestrial radio audience. I am 55, and do listen to streams at work (PC) but I still listen to terrestrial radio in my car (a few good e-skips this summer on the old Frequency Modulation....it was Modulating......) The whole streaming thing is (though not intention) another class divide growing (And I am a Conservative, but I do see this as stated above). -Paul Hopfgarten Epping NH -----Original Message----- From: John Francini Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:18 PM To: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up Hmmm. Donna, I'm also an old fogie as well (53), but this dog definitely learned some new tricks. In my car, my Bluetooth-enabled smartphone connects up instantly to my stereo, so all I have to do is start up whatever app I want to use to play Internet radio (like the one the Herald recommends), and I'm off to the races. OTOH, I'm in the computer industry myself (I manage the engineering networks at Dell in Nashua), so I'm probably an outlier on the "old people don't like new stuff" bell curve? John Francini On 29 Jul 2013, at 13:11, Donna Halper wrote: > Sean wrote-- >> This is your fatal mistake, Dan. I do almost all of my streaming on my >> phone. >> > > Okay fine, I am going to "out"myself as an old fogie, I guess, but I too > find it cumbersome to listen on a smart-phone. I know this is a > generational thing, and I am certainly able to use my smart-phone for a > wide range of tasks including making calls. But hooking up a speaker and > plugging the phone into a charger is so much more time-consuming than just > turning on the radio or listening via the audio-stream on my computer. The > Herald is trying to attract younger listeners with an internet station, > but will older listeners (who are the main consumers of angry talk radio) > find it convenient to use their smart-phones to listen? Most of the > research I've seen says there's a real generation gap in who uses phones > (be they iPhones or Androids) to listen to music and news. From TVNETDUDE@aol.com Wed Jul 31 17:57:54 2013 From: TVNETDUDE@aol.com (TVNETDUDE@aol.com) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:57:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up Message-ID: Is there any reason why the Herald Radio Network cannot be carried on radio stations? I have never been able to see a business model for internet radio. Mike From kenwvt@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 16:05:55 2013 From: kenwvt@gmail.com (Ken Vantassell) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:05:55 -0400 Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: <1375294007.50931.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51F6A25A.9020801@donnahalper.com> <1375121637.18925.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <0A2BF48AD01548C996396892CDDD1B6F@CASEYPC> <1375294007.50931.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <751BFD25-E755-4607-BC6A-5F96B0838C29@gmail.com> Is RadioBDC from the Globe a success ? Maybe it is and the Herald wants a piece of the action. -ken Sent from my iPad On Jul 31, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Sean Smyth wrote: > Mark Casey wrote: >> The Herald will be lucky if this is a success. > > Define "success" -- the Herald's idea of "success" is likely different than what is traditionally considered "success" by many in broadcast media. > > From ssmyth@psualum.com Wed Jul 31 20:39:51 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Herald Radio launches Aug 5th - Jeff Katz and Michael Graham signed up In-Reply-To: <751BFD25-E755-4607-BC6A-5F96B0838C29@gmail.com> References: <5E89CA059FD04696BA16C3EA42EB39A4@SatU205S5044> <1375107638.1245.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51F6A25A.9020801@donnahalper.com> <1375121637.18925.YahooMailNeo@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <0A2BF48AD01548C996396892CDDD1B6F@CASEYPC> <1375294007.50931.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <751BFD25-E755-4607-BC6A-5F96B0838C29@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1375317591.83150.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Ken Vantassell wrote: > Is RadioBDC from the Globe a success ? Maybe it is and the Herald wants a piece of the action. The only people who know if RadioBDC is a success are the people in charge of making decisions at the Globe. Their goals may not be solely profit; RBDC may prove to be an effective promotion vehicle for the paper, or may allow it to add value for sponsors and keep those folk around, or put a different face on their print and online products. I don't know the answers to that. Anyways, RadioBDC (music-intensive, with some contributions from Globe staffers) and Herald Radio have totally different formats, as of now. Who knows what each will evolve into?? From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Jul 31 21:40:47 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 21:40:47 -0400 Subject: Moderator away Message-ID: <20985.48287.756619.239962@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Gentle readers, Your moderator will be on vacation starting tomorrow. This means that no posts or other requests which require approval will be handled until I return. I hope you all have a good beginning of August and don't start too many flame wars in my absence. -GAWollman From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 21:43:04 2013 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 21:43:04 -0400 Subject: Moderator away In-Reply-To: <20985.48287.756619.239962@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <20985.48287.756619.239962@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: What would be the harm in appointing a second moderator, one you can trust .. to handle things in your absence? Every board or email list Im on has at least 2 moderators, just in cases like this. On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Gentle readers, > > Your moderator will be on vacation starting tomorrow. This means that > no posts or other requests which require approval will be handled > until I return. I hope you all have a good beginning of August and > don't start too many flame wars in my absence. > > -GAWollman > >