From richard@chonak.com Mon Dec 2 16:39:21 2013 From: richard@chonak.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:39:21 -0500 Subject: Logos: history of BBC's TV branding Message-ID: <529CFE09.3020409@chonak.com> This piece tells the story of BBC television's first branding logo, and its successors over 60 years: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25168633 The article includes a demo video. From markwa1ion@aol.com Tue Dec 3 11:03:25 2013 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 11:03:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Boston AM dial 50 years ago Message-ID: <8D0BE5854BD97B9-1C0C-1894@webmail-d292.sysops.aol.com> Updated version of my write-up on late 1963 Boston AM radio has been posted at: http://chowdanet.com/markc/tunetown/boston_radio_1963.htm There have been some good comments already provided from various people to improve upon the original version that was posted on Facebook and on the Boston Radio Interest Group. Any further comments / corrections / updates will, of course, be appreciated. Other articles that might be of interest: December 1963 Playlist - 50 years ago (notes from NYC Christmas shopping train trip at age 14): http://chowdanet.com/markc/tunetown/nyc_train_trip_dec63.htm How I Got Started in Radio and Electronics: http://www.qsl.net/wa1ion/wa1ion_history.htm American Radio History: http://www.americanradiohistory.com/index.htm Radio Shack Catalogues: http://www.radioshackcatalogs.com/ Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA -----Original Message----- From: Cohasset / Hippisley To: Mark Connelly Sent: Tue, Nov 26, 2013 12:16 pm Subject: Re: Boston AM dial 50 years ago Hi, Mark -- Any chance you'll update your original summary with all the added detail or modifications from the many folks who chimed in? That would be an awesome compilation -- and easier to file in my Boston radio nostalgia folder than a dozen separate e-mails! Bud, W2RU On Nov 22, 2013, at 7:58 03PM, Mark Connelly wrote: > With the current media coverage (some would say 'feeding frenzy') about the JFK assassination 50 years ago, I thought I'd look back to that period in terms of metro-Boston AM radio stations. I was 14 at the time, a freshman at Arlington High School and, as noted at "http://swling.com/blog/2013/11/listener-post-mark-connelly/", was already seriously dug into radio and electronics from both the aspect as entertainment medium and scientific hobby. > > I invite historians among you (Donna Halper, Dan Strassberg, et al.) to look over and critique the listing below for accuracy. I have not included stations from towns much beyond Route 128 so Lowell, Brockton, etc. aren't included. > > Mark Connelly > South Yarmouth, MA From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Dec 3 13:16:21 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 13:16:21 -0500 Subject: RIP Radio-Discussions.com (Radio-info) Message-ID: The old Radio-Info discussion boards (more recently Radio-Discussions.com have ceased operation as of today. Effective immediately RadioDiscussions and RadioDiscussions.com is ceasing operation. We appreciate all of your support over the years. Please direct questions or comments to: radiodiscussionscomments@gmail.com http://radiodiscussions.com/ From scott@fybush.com Tue Dec 3 13:54:18 2013 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 13:54:18 -0500 Subject: RIP Radio-Discussions.com (Radio-info) In-Reply-To: <6D0D3AC8A06C4E6286B5E97676D55B50@Desktop> References: <6D0D3AC8A06C4E6286B5E97676D55B50@Desktop> Message-ID: <529E28DA.2070008@fybush.com> On 12/3/2013 1:26 PM, Don wrote: > Jeesh, I know they had some growing pains....with the new design, > etc...and seem to have lost some users, but I thought they were > addressing that? My guess (and it's only a guess) is that Streamline/RBR/Radio Ink picked up the boards for little or no actual cash. The purchasers of the rest of the radio-info assets (Talkers Magazine out of Springfield) appeared to mostly want the name and not the boards; in the event, they didn't get Tom Taylor and his news updates, which went off independently. Keeping boards like these running smoothly has to be in part a labor of love (just ask our Moderator here on b-r-i!), and if you don't love it, you're not going to get rich doing it. Fortunately, several of the original Radio-Info founders from back in 2006 have been building a new set of forums and keeping them warm in the event of a shutdown like this one. I'm working with them, too! Come visit us at http://radioinsight.com/community - and please spread the word!! s From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Tue Dec 3 13:26:57 2013 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 13:26:57 -0500 Subject: RIP Radio-Discussions.com (Radio-info) References: Message-ID: <6D0D3AC8A06C4E6286B5E97676D55B50@Desktop> Jeesh, I know they had some growing pains....with the new design, etc...and seem to have lost some users, but I thought they were addressing that? And they were just bought by that magazine, right? Seems like they gave up awfully quickly! What hapenned? Were they spending too much money on the effort to revive it, with not enough users for ads? Why didn't they lose interest? Knowing how busy it was at one time, I wouldn't think they would give up on it so easily. (Personally, I think they should've cut down the sprawling number of forums during the changeover, and just concentrate on the biggest markets and add other forums gradullay.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 1:16 PM Subject: RIP Radio-Discussions.com (Radio-info) > The old Radio-Info discussion boards (more recently > Radio-Discussions.com have ceased operation as of today. > > Effective immediately RadioDiscussions and RadioDiscussions.com is > ceasing operation. > > We appreciate all of your support over the years. > > Please direct questions or comments to: radiodiscussionscomments@gmail.com > > http://radiodiscussions.com/ From ssmyth@psualum.com Tue Dec 3 14:17:02 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 11:17:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: RIP Radio-Discussions.com (Radio-info) In-Reply-To: <6D0D3AC8A06C4E6286B5E97676D55B50@Desktop> References: <6D0D3AC8A06C4E6286B5E97676D55B50@Desktop> Message-ID: <1386098222.66123.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> The conspiracy theorist in me says they made the site changeover with the hopes of driving off users, so they had an easy out to pull the plug. Why not just shut things down without putting in that effort? Who knows. From dillane@sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 3 20:49:40 2013 From: dillane@sbcglobal.net (Bill Dillane) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: RIP Radio-Discussions.com (Radio-info) Message-ID: <1386121780.37209.YahooMailNeo@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I had them reset my password this past week (because that verification routine didn't work), after months of not going on.? I needed to ask a tech question on a forum. I know some people complain about moderatored boards, but sometimes you need some controls, and Radio-Discussions had none.? The Connecticut forum got so bad, I was embarrassed to post. From pbencurrier@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 06:39:29 2013 From: pbencurrier@hotmail.com (Paul Currier) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 06:39:29 -0500 Subject: Jay Talking In-Reply-To: <1386121780.37209.YahooMailNeo@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1386121780.37209.YahooMailNeo@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Looks like Bradley Jay has overnights on 'BZ. The promos are now "Jay Talking with Bradley Jay" with the news at 5 with Joe Mathieu "Following Jay Talking with Bradley Jay." Certainly took a while for the decision. Paul Sandwich From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 4 09:02:52 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:02:52 -0500 Subject: Jay Talking In-Reply-To: References: <1386121780.37209.YahooMailNeo@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks; no change yet on the WBZ site schedule page but I'm sure it'll come On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Paul Currier wrote: > Looks like Bradley Jay has overnights on 'BZ. The promos are now "Jay > Talking with Bradley Jay" with the news at 5 with Joe Mathieu "Following > Jay Talking with Bradley Jay." > Certainly took a while for the decision. > > Paul > Sandwich > From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Dec 4 09:10:22 2013 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:10:22 -0500 Subject: Jay Talking In-Reply-To: References: <1386121780.37209.YahooMailNeo@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <042901cef0fa$92dc89a0$b8959ce0$@garysicecream.com> How far the once mighty WBZ has fallen..... -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:03 AM To: Paul Currier Cc: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: Jay Talking Thanks; no change yet on the WBZ site schedule page but I'm sure it'll come On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Paul Currier wrote: > Looks like Bradley Jay has overnights on 'BZ. The promos are now "Jay > Talking with Bradley Jay" with the news at 5 with Joe Mathieu > "Following Jay Talking with Bradley Jay." > Certainly took a while for the decision. > > Paul > Sandwich > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 4 11:22:19 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 11:22:19 -0500 Subject: Jay Talking In-Reply-To: <042901cef0fa$92dc89a0$b8959ce0$@garysicecream.com> References: <1386121780.37209.YahooMailNeo@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <042901cef0fa$92dc89a0$b8959ce0$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: Bradley Jay does have the distinction of being the last DJ on WBCN in 2009 when they went off the air at 104.1. I was down in Jackson, MS at the time and recorded the "end" (but later deleted it) via my netbook/streaming (remembering of course the one hour time difference). A day or so later, WBMX moved to 104.1 as WBZ-FM 98.5 made its debut. WBCN went 'digital only" though the calls later wound up- on an AM station in Charlotte, NC. A description of the "end of WBCN" can be found on the WBCN (FM) page on Wikipedia. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > How far the once mighty WBZ has fallen..... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Bob Nelson > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:03 AM > To: Paul Currier > Cc: Boston Radio Group > Subject: Re: Jay Talking > > Thanks; no change yet on the WBZ site schedule page but I'm sure it'll come > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Paul Currier >wrote: > > > Looks like Bradley Jay has overnights on 'BZ. The promos are now "Jay > > Talking with Bradley Jay" with the news at 5 with Joe Mathieu > > "Following Jay Talking with Bradley Jay." > > Certainly took a while for the decision. > > > > Paul > > Sandwich > > > > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Dec 3 14:57:09 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 14:57:09 -0500 Subject: RIP Radio-Discussions.com (Radio-info) In-Reply-To: <529E28DA.2070008@fybush.com> References: <6D0D3AC8A06C4E6286B5E97676D55B50@Desktop> <529E28DA.2070008@fybush.com> Message-ID: Having a wide variety of boards including state by state, specialities like DX, HD, airchecks, etc, was one thing I liked about RadioDiscussions. And we had some real characters, some of whom (like me) are already at RadioInsight or are possible to show up there in the near future. Running messageboards or Facebook/Yahoo groups, etc. is indeed a chore; on some facebook groups I had people that I approved.hoping for the best, then they just go on there to post offtopic spam... etc. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Scott Fybush wrote: > On 12/3/2013 1:26 PM, Don wrote: > >> Jeesh, I know they had some growing pains....with the new design, >> etc...and seem to have lost some users, but I thought they were >> addressing that? >> > > My guess (and it's only a guess) is that Streamline/RBR/Radio Ink picked > up the boards for little or no actual cash. The purchasers of the rest of > the radio-info assets (Talkers Magazine out of Springfield) appeared to > mostly want the name and not the boards; in the event, they didn't get Tom > Taylor and his news updates, which went off independently. > > Keeping boards like these running smoothly has to be in part a labor of > love (just ask our Moderator here on b-r-i!), and if you don't love it, > you're not going to get rich doing it. > > Fortunately, several of the original Radio-Info founders from back in 2006 > have been building a new set of forums and keeping them warm in the event > of a shutdown like this one. I'm working with them, too! > > Come visit us at http://radioinsight.com/community - and please spread > the word!! > > s > > From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Dec 4 19:35:49 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 19:35:49 -0500 Subject: Montreal AM moves to 980 from 990 Message-ID: The CRTC today approved CHRF's request to move from 990 to 980 ( It inherited the old CKGM slot when that station moved to 690. http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2013/2013-648.htm http://blog.fagstein.com/2013/12/04/crtc-approves-chrf-frequency-change/ I don't think this will impact WCAP too much. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Dec 5 11:54:13 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 11:54:13 -0500 Subject: Montreal AM moves to 980 from 990 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looking at those maps it probably also won't affect WOFX 980 in Troy NY (Fox Sports, Red Sox). Troy is over 200 miles away from Montreal and the signal isn't exactly pushing south anyway. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The CRTC today approved CHRF's request to move from 990 to 980 ( It > inherited the old CKGM slot when that station moved to 690. > > http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2013/2013-648.htm > > http://blog.fagstein.com/2013/12/04/crtc-approves-chrf-frequency-change/ > > > I don't think this will impact WCAP too much. > From markwa1ion@aol.com Thu Dec 5 13:47:45 2013 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 13:47:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Montreal AM moves to 980 from 990 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D0C0019F349E7A-2308-F045@webmail-m292.sysops.aol.com> WOFX-NY primarily and WTEM-DC secondarily (with WILK-PA, Cuba, Colombia, and Brazil in descending order) already make it a mess for WCAP on their fringe many nights. There is also a 1 kHz beat note (heterodyne) from an Algerian station on 981; this is quite loud in the early evening at coastal sites such as Cape Ann. Based on all of the existing interference, the Montreal station probably isn't going to move the NIF number very much. In the '60s, CKGM was on 980 and most of the time then-WTRY now-WOFX had the stronger night signal where I was living in Arlington. You could get mainly one or the other by careful portable radio positioning. WCAP at that time was daytime only. Mark Connelly South Yarmouth, MA << The CRTC today approved CHRF's request to move from 990 to 980 ( It inherited the old CKGM slot when that station moved to 690. http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2013/2013-648.htm http://blog.fagstein.com/2013/12/04/crtc-approves-chrf-frequency-change/ I don't think this will impact WCAP too much. >> From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Dec 8 16:55:11 2013 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 16:55:11 -0500 Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... Message-ID: <073e01cef460$2bcd36b0$8367a410$@garysicecream.com> Just got "Breaking News" on my iPhone from NewsCenter 5. I expected something important and newsworthy. Instead it was telling me that the Patriots won their game. I hardly think that is "Breaking News". Whoopie, someone won a game. Give me a break - Breaking News is something important. Please refrain from sending drivel as Breaking News. Am I wrong list? -Gary Francis From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Dec 8 18:12:19 2013 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 18:12:19 -0500 Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: References: <073e01cef460$2bcd36b0$8367a410$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <074601cef46a$f29561f0$d7c025d0$@garysicecream.com> I totally disagree..it's a game and plenty of us could care less .. Its not a life threatening event.like a fire, accident, bombing, etc. Save Breaking News for REAL news. From: Kevin Vahey [mailto:kvahey@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 6:08 PM To: Gary's Ice Cream Cc: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... Given that thousands turned the game off when they fell badly behind that alert was justified. On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: Just got "Breaking News" on my iPhone from NewsCenter 5. I expected something important and newsworthy. Instead it was telling me that the Patriots won their game. I hardly think that is "Breaking News". Whoopie, someone won a game. Give me a break - Breaking News is something important. Please refrain from sending drivel as Breaking News. Am I wrong list? -Gary Francis From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Dec 8 18:08:11 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 18:08:11 -0500 Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: <073e01cef460$2bcd36b0$8367a410$@garysicecream.com> References: <073e01cef460$2bcd36b0$8367a410$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: Given that thousands turned the game off when they fell badly behind that alert was justified. On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > Just got "Breaking News" on my iPhone from NewsCenter 5. I expected > something important and newsworthy. Instead it was telling me that the > Patriots won their game. > > I hardly think that is "Breaking News". Whoopie, someone won a game. Give > me a break - Breaking News is something important. Please refrain from > sending drivel as Breaking News. > > Am I wrong list? > > -Gary Francis > > From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Dec 8 18:24:30 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 18:24:30 -0500 Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: <074601cef46a$f29561f0$d7c025d0$@garysicecream.com> References: <073e01cef460$2bcd36b0$8367a410$@garysicecream.com> <074601cef46a$f29561f0$d7c025d0$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: The Globe sent out the same alert. Just look at the Patriots TV ratings which routinely hit a 60 share. Maybe you don't care but a lot of people do. On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > I totally disagree??it?s a game and plenty of us could care less ?. Its > not a life threatening event?like a fire, accident, bombing, etc. Save > Breaking News for REAL news. > > > > > > > > *From:* Kevin Vahey [mailto:kvahey@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, December 08, 2013 6:08 PM > *To:* Gary's Ice Cream > *Cc:* Boston Radio Group > *Subject:* Re: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... > > > > Given that thousands turned the game off when they fell badly behind that > alert was justified. > > > > On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Gary's Ice Cream > wrote: > > Just got "Breaking News" on my iPhone from NewsCenter 5. I expected > something important and newsworthy. Instead it was telling me that the > Patriots won their game. > > I hardly think that is "Breaking News". Whoopie, someone won a game. Give > me a break - Breaking News is something important. Please refrain from > sending drivel as Breaking News. > > Am I wrong list? > > -Gary Francis > > > From paulranderson@charter.net Sun Dec 8 18:42:45 2013 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 18:42:45 -0500 Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: <073e01cef460$2bcd36b0$8367a410$@garysicecream.com> References: <073e01cef460$2bcd36b0$8367a410$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <5E54754A-4653-4EEB-ABCA-AA750B0ACD51@charter.net> > I hardly think that is "Breaking News". Whoopie, someone won a game. Give > me a break - Breaking News is something important. Please refrain from > sending drivel as Breaking News. > > Am I wrong list? This is why I don?t sign up for any news to be pushed to my phone. A championship game? Sure, send a message. Well, maybe. It?s sports news, not real news. But I?ve heard people complain about relatively unimportant news events being tagged as ?breaking news? on their phone. I guess the stations mimic their on-air newscasts, where there seem to be many ?breaking news? stories. My favorite is ?new at 11?. Why should it matter, if I?m hearing a story for the first time, whether it?s ?new? or not? Paul From sids1045@aol.com Sun Dec 8 20:31:42 2013 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 20:31:42 -0500 Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: <074601cef46a$f29561f0$d7c025d0$@garysicecream.com> References: <073e01cef460$2bcd36b0$8367a410$@garysicecream.com> <074601cef46a$f29561f0$d7c025d0$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <002CC348-1993-4DE6-9225-5EDEB28879B2@aol.com> "Just got "Breaking News" on my iPhone from NewsCenter 5. I expected something important and newsworthy. Instead it was telling me that the Patriots won their game." This is, unfortunately, a foreseeable and logical extension of the wholesale cheapening of the term "news" to include just about anything the producers want to include, whether it's devolving into political opinion or shilling at length for a company (which used to be called a program-length commercial, and yes Donna, I saw your letter about the Amazon segment on 60 Minutes). Apparently in some quarters there is no longer any such thing as news judgment, just pandering. From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Dec 8 21:34:21 2013 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 21:34:21 -0500 Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: <073e01cef460$2bcd36b0$8367a410$@garysicecream.com> References: <073e01cef460$2bcd36b0$8367a410$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: On Dec 8, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > Just got "Breaking News" on my iPhone from NewsCenter 5. I expected > something important and newsworthy. Instead it was telling me that the > Patriots won their game. > > I hardly think that is "Breaking News". Whoopie, someone won a game. Give > me a break - Breaking News is something important. Please refrain from > sending drivel as Breaking News. > > Am I wrong list? > No, you are not wrong. I agree with you 100 percent! Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Dec 9 07:25:10 2013 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 07:25:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: <073e01cef460$2bcd36b0$8367a410$@garysicecream.com> References: <073e01cef460$2bcd36b0$8367a410$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > I hardly think that is "Breaking News". Whoopie, someone won a game. Give > me a break - Breaking News is something important. Please refrain from > sending drivel as Breaking News. Broken news, more like. I am reminded of an old Russian saying: "V pravde nyet izvestii, a v izvestiyakh nyet pravdy" ("there is no news in The Truth ['pravda'], and no truth in The News ['izvestiya']"). Rob From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Dec 9 06:27:54 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 06:27:54 -0500 Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: References: <073e01cef460$2bcd36b0$8367a410$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: Think of all the times you're watching, say, Channel 7 and they're doing a really important story about one of the NBC programs they run. Basically a 5 minute promo about some talent contest show. I have somehow wound up on mailing lists for things like Ch 5 and its sister station in Pittsburgh just because I had to sign up to see a video from their newscast. Movies like Network and Broadcast News show the decline from way back, from Howard Beale's celebrity status to how the handsome news anchor (William Hurt) fakes a tearful camera view of himself, to how the brainy but plain looking anchor (Albert Brooks) "feeds" information to the pretty boy anchor live, via phone line from his home. "I say it here, and it comes out there," says Brooks' character to himself. On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Larry Weil wrote: > > On Dec 8, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Gary's Ice Cream > wrote: > > > Just got "Breaking News" on my iPhone from NewsCenter 5. I expected > > something important and newsworthy. Instead it was telling me that the > > Patriots won their game. > > > > I hardly think that is "Breaking News". Whoopie, someone won a game. > Give > > me a break - Breaking News is something important. Please refrain from > > sending drivel as Breaking News. > > > > Am I wrong list? > > > > No, you are not wrong. I agree with you 100 percent! > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > > > > From ssmyth@psualum.com Mon Dec 9 09:23:21 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 06:23:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Attic finds Message-ID: <1386599001.40696.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> This wasn't in the attic, to be precise, just a box sitting in the spare bedroom. Turns out one tape, which probably hasn't been touched in 20 years or quite close to it, has a bunch of liners/promos from Boston AM stations c. 1990-91 (quality is middling at best -- audio editing isn't my forte). Is this of any use to anyone? The only "editing" done was cutting mp3s logically, based on station and programming. From lglavin@mail.com Wed Dec 4 15:55:23 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 15:55:23 -0500 Subject: New Pix At NECRAT Message-ID: <20131204205523.193190@gmx.com> It's always a good idea to check http://www.necrat.us for any additions to its gallery of tower pictures. One new photo shows an FM antenna on the SIDE of a water tower rather than atop. Wouldn't the body of the water toward in a sense directionalize its coverage area? Maybe that was the intention. From lglavin@mail.com Mon Dec 9 14:23:23 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 14:23:23 -0500 Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... Message-ID: <20131209192324.150860@gmx.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: Gary's Ice Cream >Sent: 12/08/13 04:55 PM >To: Boston Radio Group >Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... >Just got "Breaking News" on my iPhone from NewsCenter 5. I expected >something important and newsworthy. Instead it was telling me that the >Patriots won their game. >I hardly think that is "Breaking News". Whoopie, someone won a game. Give >me a break - Breaking News is something important. Please refrain from >sending drivel as Breaking News. >Am I wrong list? >-Gary Francis Please don't call me "list". How about channel 5's habit of introducing the weather as "STORM CENTER FIVE!!!" even if the region is enjoying a spell of benign weather, let's say in June? Who came up with that idea? From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Dec 9 16:52:45 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 16:52:45 -0500 Subject: Well said Donna Message-ID: Donna didn't like what she saw on 60 Minutes last week and they broadcast part of her letter. https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1465398_10202121589133941_1709956668_n.jpg From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Dec 9 16:53:19 2013 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 16:53:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: New Pix At NECRAT In-Reply-To: <20131204205523.193190@gmx.com> References: <20131204205523.193190@gmx.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Laurence Glavin wrote: > It's always a good idea to check http://www.necrat.us for any additions > to its gallery of tower pictures. One new photo shows an FM antenna on > the SIDE of a water tower rather than atop. Wouldn't the body of the > water toward in a sense directionalize its coverage area? Maybe that was > the intention. I'm sure that was the intention. It would be interesting to look in the FCC database and see if the station is licensed to be directional. I've known of some nominally nondirectional stations that side-mounted their antennas on structures to enhance their signals in certain directions. Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Dec 9 16:56:02 2013 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 16:56:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: <20131209192324.150860@gmx.com> References: <20131209192324.150860@gmx.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Dec 2013, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Please don't call me "list". How about channel 5's habit of introducing > the weather as "STORM CENTER FIVE!!!" even if the region is enjoying a > spell of benign weather, let's say in June? Who came up with that idea? Not to mention that WCVB hasn't been on channel 5 since the demise of analog TV. Rob From newsltr@southstation.org Mon Dec 9 18:32:50 2013 From: newsltr@southstation.org (Larry Lovering - Newsletter) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 18:32:50 -0500 Subject: Attic finds In-Reply-To: <1386599001.40696.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1386599001.40696.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <021d01cef536$fa2c9d30$ee85d790$@southstation.org> I'll take it, Sean. I have many machines that could read the tape. -Larry Lovering -----Original Message----- From: Sean Smyth [mailto:ssmyth@psualum.com] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 9:23 AM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org Subject: Attic finds This wasn't in the attic, to be precise, just a box sitting in the spare bedroom. Turns out one tape, which probably hasn't been touched in 20 years or quite close to it, has a bunch of liners/promos from Boston AM stations c. 1990-91 (quality is middling at best -- audio editing isn't my forte). Is this of any use to anyone? The only "editing" done was cutting mp3s logically, based on station and programming. From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Dec 9 20:07:53 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 20:07:53 -0500 Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: References: <20131209192324.150860@gmx.com> Message-ID: The game had a 34.1/62 rating on channel 4 which translates to 807,000 households so a lot of people were interested. Many others were Christmas shopping yesterday so that alert may have brought them a smile. Now if they had sent out an alert that BC lost its basketball game I would agree but the Patriots are huge. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Rob Landry <011010001@interpring.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 9 Dec 2013, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > > Please don't call me "list". How about channel 5's habit of introducing >> the weather as "STORM CENTER FIVE!!!" even if the region is enjoying a >> spell of benign weather, let's say in June? Who came up with that idea? >> > > Not to mention that WCVB hasn't been on channel 5 since the demise of > analog TV. > > > Rob > > From scott@fybush.com Mon Dec 9 20:11:02 2013 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 20:11:02 -0500 Subject: Attic finds In-Reply-To: <021d01cef536$fa2c9d30$ee85d790$@southstation.org> References: <1386599001.40696.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <021d01cef536$fa2c9d30$ee85d790$@southstation.org> Message-ID: <52A66A26.4020604@fybush.com> I'd like to hear it, too! Sounds like you already have it converted to mp3, Sean? On 12/9/2013 6:32 PM, Larry Lovering - Newsletter wrote: > I'll take it, Sean. I have many machines that could read the tape. > > -Larry Lovering > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean Smyth [mailto:ssmyth@psualum.com] > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 9:23 AM > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org > Subject: Attic finds > > This wasn't in the attic, to be precise, just a box sitting in the spare > bedroom. Turns out one tape, which probably hasn't been touched in 20 years > or quite close to it, has a bunch of liners/promos from Boston AM stations > c. 1990-91 (quality is middling at best -- audio editing isn't my forte). Is > this of any use to anyone? The only "editing" done was cutting mp3s > logically, based on station and programming. > From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Dec 9 19:49:28 2013 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 19:49:28 -0500 Subject: Well said Donna In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52A66518.2060300@donnahalper.com> On 12/9/2013 4:52 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Donna didn't like what she saw on 60 Minutes last week and they broadcast > part of her letter. > They broadcast a very tiny part, but still it was great to be included. I was shocked when the producer called to tell me my letter would be used in the Mailbag segment. My entire letter, which complained about the big wet kiss 60 Minutes gave to Jeff Bezos (Amazon must be a sponsor), also wondered why not one hard question was asked-- not even about the well-documented cases of brutal conditions in Amazon's warehouses. I understand that 60 Minutes does some celebrity pieces as well as some hard news, but this was in the A block, the part of the show usually reserved for a news story-- instead, it was nothing but adulation and adoration towards Mr. Bezos. Don't get me wrong-- I have nothing against him, nor against Amazon. But when I watch 60 Minutes, as I pointed out in another part of my letter that wasn't read, I expect journalism, not public relations. From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Dec 9 21:07:23 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 21:07:23 -0500 Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: <1386640002.40717.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <20131209192324.150860@gmx.com> <1386640002.40717.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: In 1992 the Pats home games were never on TV as they couldn't sell out. They were heading for St. Louis but the NFL discovered that Kraft had an ironclad lease with the old stadium. Kraft had bought the stadium cheaply when the Sullivans needed money to pay off Don King. Then Kraft just waited and we know what happened. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Sean Smyth wrote: > On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:09 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > > The game had a 34.1/62 rating on channel 4 which translates to 807,000 > > households so a lot of people were interested. > > > Many others were Christmas shopping yesterday so that alert may have > > brought them a smile. Now if they had sent out an alert that BC lost its > > basketball game I would agree but the Patriots are huge. > > > > And let's reflect for a bit how big the Patriots have gotten. Before > Parcells/Bledsoe, they were a non-entity around here and went through a few > year spell of rarely having games on TV. An entire generation is now rabid > for the team, thanks to the Pats' prolonged success. Had someone said to me > in 1992 that the Patriots could one day arguably be the No. 1 pro sports > team, I would've laughed. Hard. For an extended period of time. > > From gary@garysicecream.com Mon Dec 9 20:45:32 2013 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 20:45:32 -0500 Subject: Well said Donna In-Reply-To: <52A66518.2060300@donnahalper.com> References: <52A66518.2060300@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <07fa01cef549$8404d510$8c0e7f30$@garysicecream.com> It's CBS...what do you expect!?! -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 7:49 PM To: Boston Radio Subject: Re: Well said Donna On 12/9/2013 4:52 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Donna didn't like what she saw on 60 Minutes last week and they > broadcast part of her letter. > They broadcast a very tiny part, but still it was great to be included. I was shocked when the producer called to tell me my letter would be used in the Mailbag segment. My entire letter, which complained about the big wet kiss 60 Minutes gave to Jeff Bezos (Amazon must be a sponsor), also wondered why not one hard question was asked-- not even about the well-documented cases of brutal conditions in Amazon's warehouses. I understand that 60 Minutes does some celebrity pieces as well as some hard news, but this was in the A block, the part of the show usually reserved for a news story-- instead, it was nothing but adulation and adoration towards Mr. Bezos. Don't get me wrong-- I have nothing against him, nor against Amazon. But when I watch 60 Minutes, as I pointed out in another part of my letter that wasn't read, I expect journalism, not public relations. From ssmyth@psualum.com Mon Dec 9 20:46:42 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 17:46:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: References: <20131209192324.150860@gmx.com> Message-ID: <1386640002.40717.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:09 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The game had a 34.1/62 rating on channel 4 which translates to 807,000 > households so a lot of people were interested. > Many others were Christmas shopping yesterday so that alert may have > brought them a smile. Now if they had sent out an alert that BC lost its > basketball game I would agree but the Patriots are huge. And let's reflect for a bit how big the Patriots have gotten. Before Parcells/Bledsoe, they were a non-entity around here and went through a few year spell of rarely having games on TV. An entire generation is now rabid for the team, thanks to the Pats' prolonged success. Had someone said to me in 1992 that the Patriots could one day arguably be the No. 1 pro sports team, I would've laughed. Hard. For an extended period of time. From gary@garysicecream.com Mon Dec 9 22:05:14 2013 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 22:05:14 -0500 Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: <1386640002.40717.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <20131209192324.150860@gmx.com> <1386640002.40717.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <07fb01cef554$a65f1430$f31d3c90$@garysicecream.com> I disagree Sean....everyone I know is much more interested in the Red Sox than the Patriots..... -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Sean Smyth Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 8:47 PM To: Kevin Vahey; Rob Landry Cc: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:09 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The game had a 34.1/62 rating on channel 4 which translates to 807,000 > households so a lot of people were interested. > Many others were Christmas shopping yesterday so that alert may have > brought them a smile. Now if they had sent out an alert that BC lost > its basketball game I would agree but the Patriots are huge. And let's reflect for a bit how big the Patriots have gotten. Before Parcells/Bledsoe, they were a non-entity around here and went through a few year spell of rarely having games on TV. An entire generation is now rabid for the team, thanks to the Pats' prolonged success. Had someone said to me in 1992 that the Patriots could one day arguably be the No. 1 pro sports team, I would've laughed. Hard. For an extended period of time. From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Dec 9 22:10:51 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 22:10:51 -0500 Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: <07fb01cef554$a65f1430$f31d3c90$@garysicecream.com> References: <20131209192324.150860@gmx.com> <1386640002.40717.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <07fb01cef554$a65f1430$f31d3c90$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: Gary - The Red Sox are #1 BUT Pats only play 16 games plus playoffs so their games are 'events' - Red Sox are daily for 6 months. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > I disagree Sean....everyone I know is much more interested in the Red Sox > than the Patriots..... > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Sean Smyth > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 8:47 PM > To: Kevin Vahey; Rob Landry > Cc: Boston Radio Group > Subject: Re: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... > > On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:09 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > > The game had a 34.1/62 rating on channel 4 which translates to 807,000 > > households so a lot of people were interested. > > > Many others were Christmas shopping yesterday so that alert may have > > brought them a smile. Now if they had sent out an alert that BC lost > > its basketball game I would agree but the Patriots are huge. > > > > And let's reflect for a bit how big the Patriots have gotten. Before > Parcells/Bledsoe, they were a non-entity around here and went through a few > year spell of rarely having games on TV. An entire generation is now rabid > for the team, thanks to the Pats' prolonged success. Had someone said to me > in 1992 that the Patriots could one day arguably be the No. 1 pro sports > team, I would've laughed. Hard. For an extended period of time. > > > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Dec 10 00:06:16 2013 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 00:06:16 -0500 Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: References: <20131209192324.150860@gmx.com> <1386640002.40717.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <07fb01cef554$a65f1430$f31d3c90$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <1CDBE184-EED7-421B-AC01-A3FAD0C050D9@comcast.net> If put up against each other in TV ratings, the Patriots bear out the Sox every time, unless the Sox was a playoff game. As Kevin said, it's probably because of there only being 16 games vs 162. Also, this list is probably not a fair sample for whether sports should be considered breaking news or not. I've long noticed that there may be no other group of men that are less interested in sports than radio hobbyists/techies (ham radio, engineers, etc). There certainly are exceptions, myself and others on this list included, but as a whole, I'd say that we're well below average when it comes to sports fans. Someone I know used to be an engineer for NESN, and they knew he would be reliable and pay attention to the behind the scenes aspects of the broadcast because he had absolutely zero interest in the Red Sox. I get the alerts about Pats/Sox stories on my phone, and don't think it's strange at all. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA > On Dec 9, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > Gary - The Red Sox are #1 BUT > > Pats only play 16 games plus playoffs so their games are 'events' - Red Sox > are daily for 6 months. > > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > >> I disagree Sean....everyone I know is much more interested in the Red Sox >> than the Patriots..... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org >> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of >> Sean Smyth >> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 8:47 PM >> To: Kevin Vahey; Rob Landry >> Cc: Boston Radio Group >> Subject: Re: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... >> >>> On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:09 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >>> >>> The game had a 34.1/62 rating on channel 4 which translates to 807,000 >>> households so a lot of people were interested. >> >>> Many others were Christmas shopping yesterday so that alert may have >>> brought them a smile. Now if they had sent out an alert that BC lost >>> its basketball game I would agree but the Patriots are huge. >> >> >> >> And let's reflect for a bit how big the Patriots have gotten. Before >> Parcells/Bledsoe, they were a non-entity around here and went through a few >> year spell of rarely having games on TV. An entire generation is now rabid >> for the team, thanks to the Pats' prolonged success. Had someone said to me >> in 1992 that the Patriots could one day arguably be the No. 1 pro sports >> team, I would've laughed. Hard. For an extended period of time. >> >> >> From ssmyth@psualum.com Tue Dec 10 00:19:28 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 21:19:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Breaking News!?! Sorry WCVB, I don't think so.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1386652768.38040.YahooMailIosMobile@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I said arguably; I'm in your camp, Gary. I'd be curious as to what a teenager would say, though -- Pats have been very good virtually all of their lives, whereas the Sox had one really brutal year and a few non-playoff seasons. Yes, I know that pales in comparison as opposed to the bad old days, but football wasn't as big around here during the 1960s when the Sox were horrible.

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From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Tue Dec 10 12:52:44 2013 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 12:52:44 -0500 Subject: Well said Donna References: <52A66518.2060300@donnahalper.com> <07fa01cef549$8404d510$8c0e7f30$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: > On 12/9/2013 4:52 PM, 'Donna Halper' wrote: >> > > ...also wondered > why not one hard question was asked-- not even about the well-documented > cases of brutal conditions in Amazon's warehouses. I recall thinking during the peice that the "runners"(?) had a tough job. Can you point to some of the well documented cases? I would like to read more. From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Dec 10 21:21:41 2013 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:21:41 -0500 Subject: Well said Donna In-Reply-To: References: <52A66518.2060300@donnahalper.com> <07fa01cef549$8404d510$8c0e7f30$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <52A7CC35.20705@donnahalper.com> On 12/10/2013 12:52 PM, Don wrote: > > I recall thinking during the peice that the "runners"(?) had a tough job. > Can you point to some of the well documented cases? Yes, I can. Here is a link to an investigative report done recently by the BBC about Amazon's warehouses and working conditions in England. http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2013/1204/Amazon-UK-A-tough-place-to-work-but-Brits-keep-clicking And an investigative report from an Allentown, PA newspaper, detailing working conditions at the Amazon warehouse in the Lehigh Valley; this series of articles won several journalism awards after it came out in 2011. http://www.mcall.com/news/local/amazon/mc-allentown-amazon-complaints-20110917,0,6503103.story From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Dec 11 11:45:24 2013 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:45:24 -0500 Subject: RIP Bill Hahn In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52A896A4.8040107@donnahalper.com> I'm glad I was able to do my little part to persuade the Boston Globe to do a nice obit and tribute to veteran broadcaster Bill Hahn, who died in mid-November. The author did a wonderful job contacting relatives and former co-workers, as well as kindly including a quote from me. http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/12/11/william-hahn-quincy-hall-fame-broadcaster-moved-from-radio-management/vjyXU3hP63WVXosrWGdl8N/story.html From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 12 01:42:13 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 01:42:13 -0500 Subject: RIP Bill Hahn In-Reply-To: <52A896A4.8040107@donnahalper.com> References: <52A896A4.8040107@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <52A95AC5.9070105@attorneyross.com> On 12/11/2013 11:45 AM, Donna Halper wrote: > I'm glad I was able to do my little part to persuade the Boston Globe > to do a nice obit and tribute to veteran broadcaster Bill Hahn, who > died in mid-November. The author did a wonderful job contacting > relatives and former co-workers, as well as kindly including a quote > from me. > > http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/12/11/william-hahn-quincy-hall-fame-broadcaster-moved-from-radio-management/vjyXU3hP63WVXosrWGdl8N/story.html > Thank you for that, Donna. I remember when I was a small child, my mother used to have "Breadfast with Bill" on during breakfast. When I was sick, she's bring the radio into my room, and it would be on WNAC all day, so I remember Bill Hahn doing Tello Test later in the day sometimes. I always liked his friendly and cheerful voice. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Wed Dec 11 12:26:18 2013 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 12:26:18 -0500 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 17, Issue 270 References: Message-ID: By the way, congratulations of being quoted on 60 Minutes regarding the Benghazi report CBS pulled. Best for the holidays. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 17, Issue 270 > Send Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list submissions to > boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.BostonRadio.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-radio-interest > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > boston-radio-interest-owner@lists.BostonRadio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Boston-Radio-Interest digest..." > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Well said Donna (Don) > 2. Re: Well said Donna (Donna Halper) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list > Boston-Radio-Interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > http://lists.BostonRadio.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-radio-interest > From stevewest106@hotmail.com Sun Dec 15 05:08:29 2013 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve Sawyer) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 05:08:29 -0500 Subject: Attic finds In-Reply-To: <52A66A26.4020604@fybush.com> References: <1386599001.40696.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <021d01cef536$fa2c9d30$ee85d790$@southstation.org>, <52A66A26.4020604@fybush.com> Message-ID: Hi guys... I just saw this. If you want to make a copy I'd be interested in this for Airchexx.com. If I'm too late... well, someone will be enjoying it :) Merry & Happy December Days (how's that for politically correct? hehehe) Steve S. ('West' from Airchexx and WGKX/WMC-FM Memphis) > Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 20:11:02 -0500 > From: scott@fybush.com > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: Attic finds > > I'd like to hear it, too! Sounds like you already have it converted to > mp3, Sean? > > On 12/9/2013 6:32 PM, Larry Lovering - Newsletter wrote: > > I'll take it, Sean. I have many machines that could read the tape. > > > > -Larry Lovering > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sean Smyth [mailto:ssmyth@psualum.com] > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 9:23 AM > > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org > > Subject: Attic finds > > > > This wasn't in the attic, to be precise, just a box sitting in the spare > > bedroom. Turns out one tape, which probably hasn't been touched in 20 years > > or quite close to it, has a bunch of liners/promos from Boston AM stations > > c. 1990-91 (quality is middling at best -- audio editing isn't my forte). Is > > this of any use to anyone? The only "editing" done was cutting mp3s > > logically, based on station and programming. > > > From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Dec 18 00:54:22 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 00:54:22 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE Message-ID: The deception that WXKS-FM (KISS 108) pulled on Saturday night at TD Garden keeps getting worse. Not only did they tell people at TD that Miley Cyrus was backstage - they also said so to their listeners and promoted the fact they would hear her live to keep listeners hooked. WXKS-FM is owned by Clear Channel so even if the FCC decides their was deception they would simply pay the fine out of petty cash. Maybe it is time to send a message - instead of a fine, revoke Clear Channel's license, not only for WXKS-FM but every other signal they control in Boston. (94.5, 101.7, 1200 and 1430. There were heartbroken fans at TD but the contract of the ticket states no refunds if scheduled acts don't appear. However Miley tweeted she was stuck at Teterboro Airport in New Jersey. Clear Channel couldn't have rented a nice luxury bus to make the trip????? In any event telling the listeners that she was there was an outright lie on the public airwaves. Revoking their licenses in the Boston cluster would send shockwaves through the industry that group owners are accountable. http://gawker.com/boston-station-lied-on-air-that-no-show-miley-cyrus-was-1485098815 Let's assume Miley wanted to party in Manhattan after Friday's show at MSG. But the storm was a known issue and CC simply should have 'asked' (demanded) she fly to Boston. (everybody else made it) But Miley not appearing is NOT the issue - telling the ticketholders at TD and the listeners on 107.9 that she was there IS. WXKS-FM is one of the most profitable stations Clear Channel owns - it is time the Friendly Candy Company shows some spine. http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/tv-film/5820115/why-clear-channel-expanded-jingle-ball-to-a-12-city-tour From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Dec 18 01:45:54 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 01:45:54 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21169.17570.356401.592812@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > WXKS-FM is owned by Clear Channel so even if the FCC decides their was > deception On what basis would the FCC be concerned? The hoax rule (73.1217) covers only "false information concerning a crime or a catastrophe", which clearly does not apply, disappointed teenage girls notwithstanding. It wasn't a contest (73.1216). It wasn't obscene (73.4165 et seq.). There is no general prohibition on broadcasting false statements (many talk hosts would be on the beach if there were), so where's the violation? -GAWollman From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Dec 18 05:01:54 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 05:01:54 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE In-Reply-To: <21169.17570.356401.592812@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <21169.17570.356401.592812@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: Garrett I would agree that CC could easily lawyer their way out of this. BUT CC violated the 'public trust' with the deception. In the old days a station like 'WMEX or WRKO' would say "The views and opinions of the lunatic on the air do not reflect management." Telling the the people at TD Garden that Miley was there was wrong ( and dumb ) but legal. Telling the listeners of 107.9 that Miley would soon appear is another matter entirely. Look - CC could have issued a statement before the Boston concert that Miley 'elected' to stay in New York and weather prevented her from appearing. ( unknown is how many tickets were sold on that Saturday ) - but come on, if by 1 PM they knew they could not fly, then find the diva a glorified bus/limo to Boston. Even in the worst of conditions she could have made Boston in 8 hours or less. I have problems with broadcast deceptions. 17 months ago we had Jack Williams and Lisa Hughes pretending on-air that all was well on the Esplanade when in fact it was ordered evacuated. I know nothing will happen to CC - but it would be ice to see them squirm a little, On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > WXKS-FM is owned by Clear Channel so even if the FCC decides their was > > deception > > On what basis would the FCC be concerned? The hoax rule (73.1217) > covers only "false information concerning a crime or a catastrophe", > which clearly does not apply, disappointed teenage girls > notwithstanding. It wasn't a contest (73.1216). It wasn't obscene > (73.4165 et seq.). There is no general prohibition on broadcasting > false statements (many talk hosts would be on the beach if there > were), so where's the violation? > > -GAWollman > > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Dec 18 00:58:28 2013 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 00:58:28 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: get off it.. they lied about someone appearing at a concert and continued to deceive listeners... should they get in trouble? Probably. is it worth a license revocation? Absolutely not. Paul On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The deception that WXKS-FM (KISS 108) pulled on Saturday night at TD Garden > keeps getting worse. Not only did they tell people at TD that Miley Cyrus > was backstage - they also said so to their listeners and promoted the fact > they would hear her live to keep listeners hooked. > > WXKS-FM is owned by Clear Channel so even if the FCC decides their was > deception they would simply pay the fine out of petty cash. Maybe it is > time to send a message - instead of a fine, revoke Clear Channel's license, > not only for WXKS-FM but every other signal they control in Boston. (94.5, > 101.7, 1200 and 1430. > > There were heartbroken fans at TD but the contract of the ticket states no > refunds if scheduled acts don't appear. However Miley tweeted she was stuck > at Teterboro Airport in New Jersey. Clear Channel couldn't have rented a > nice luxury bus to make the trip????? > > In any event telling the listeners that she was there was an outright lie > on the public airwaves. > > Revoking their licenses in the Boston cluster would send shockwaves through > the industry that group owners are accountable. > > > http://gawker.com/boston-station-lied-on-air-that-no-show-miley-cyrus-was-1485098815 > > Let's assume Miley wanted to party in Manhattan after Friday's show at > MSG. But the storm was a known issue and CC simply should have 'asked' > (demanded) she fly to Boston. (everybody else made it) But Miley not > appearing is NOT the issue - telling the ticketholders at TD and the > listeners on 107.9 that she was there IS. > > WXKS-FM is one of the most profitable stations Clear Channel owns - it is > time the Friendly Candy Company shows some spine. > > > http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/tv-film/5820115/why-clear-channel-expanded-jingle-ball-to-a-12-city-tour > From wilkinsmg@hotmail.com Wed Dec 18 08:01:14 2013 From: wilkinsmg@hotmail.com (Michael) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:01:14 -0500 Subject: recent FCC actions Message-ID: I hadn't checked out the recent infractions and penalties section of the FCC site in quite a while, but after Kevin's post, I thought I'd look around. I noticed that TBS was fined $25,000 last month for a television ad that simulated EAS sounds to grab viewer attention. Apparently a radio station in Kentucky may have done something along the same lines back in 2012 and has suffered penalties because of it. Interesting. It also seems that despite what is going on in the Boston area, other regional FCC offices have been shutting down a few "pirate" operators. Also in some regions, tower fencing seems to be getting a lot of attention from the FCC. Oh, was the WMJX contest violation ($4000 fine handed down back in February) ever discussed here? It might have been, and I just missed it. Mike From bob.bosra@demattia.net Wed Dec 18 08:09:19 2013 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:09:19 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: I would pay extra money NOT to have Miley Cyrus at the concert. c: -Bob > Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 00:58:28 -0500 > Subject: Re: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE > From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com > To: kvahey@gmail.com > CC: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org > > get off it.. they lied about someone appearing at a concert and continued > to deceive listeners... should they get in trouble? Probably. > > is it worth a license revocation? Absolutely not. > > Paul > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > > The deception that WXKS-FM (KISS 108) pulled on Saturday night at TD Garden > > keeps getting worse. Not only did they tell people at TD that Miley Cyrus > > was backstage - they also said so to their listeners and promoted the fact > > they would hear her live to keep listeners hooked. > > > > WXKS-FM is owned by Clear Channel so even if the FCC decides their was > > deception they would simply pay the fine out of petty cash. Maybe it is > > time to send a message - instead of a fine, revoke Clear Channel's license, > > not only for WXKS-FM but every other signal they control in Boston. (94.5, > > 101.7, 1200 and 1430. > > > > There were heartbroken fans at TD but the contract of the ticket states no > > refunds if scheduled acts don't appear. However Miley tweeted she was stuck > > at Teterboro Airport in New Jersey. Clear Channel couldn't have rented a > > nice luxury bus to make the trip????? > > > > In any event telling the listeners that she was there was an outright lie > > on the public airwaves. > > > > Revoking their licenses in the Boston cluster would send shockwaves through > > the industry that group owners are accountable. > > > > > > http://gawker.com/boston-station-lied-on-air-that-no-show-miley-cyrus-was-1485098815 > > > > Let's assume Miley wanted to party in Manhattan after Friday's show at > > MSG. But the storm was a known issue and CC simply should have 'asked' > > (demanded) she fly to Boston. (everybody else made it) But Miley not > > appearing is NOT the issue - telling the ticketholders at TD and the > > listeners on 107.9 that she was there IS. > > > > WXKS-FM is one of the most profitable stations Clear Channel owns - it is > > time the Friendly Candy Company shows some spine. > > > > > > http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/tv-film/5820115/why-clear-channel-expanded-jingle-ball-to-a-12-city-tour > > From mamros@MIT.EDU Wed Dec 18 08:26:06 2013 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:26:06 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE In-Reply-To: References: <21169.17570.356401.592812@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <201312181326.rBIDQ616013391@outgoing.mit.edu> >CC violated the 'public trust' with the deception. Ah, the old "public trust" canard. You do know that the first application of the words "public trust" to broadcasting came straight out of the RCA press release announcing the creation of NBC, well before the FCC was created? It was pure marketing BS then, and it's always been BS. Go ahead and write the FCC about it if you'd like; if you get any response other than a form letter stating pretty much what Garrett already said about the matter, I'll be (somewhat pleasantly) surprised. -Shawn From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 18 08:44:06 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:44:06 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE References: Message-ID: <1B67590514FD4906A7FFA6955599A0EB@SatU205S5044> Is this item of enough importance to justify the publicity you are giving it on this thread? My opinion is that it is not, except, maybe, if you are a teen-age girl. However, I don't believe that the list membership includes any teen-age girls. I know...since I am not interested in the topic, I should simply ignore postings to this thread. Still, I think the entire thread deserves a rest. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 12:54 AM Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE > The deception that WXKS-FM (KISS 108) pulled on Saturday night at TD > Garden > keeps getting worse. Not only did they tell people at TD that Miley Cyrus > was backstage - they also said so to their listeners and promoted the fact > they would hear her live to keep listeners hooked. From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Dec 18 08:58:16 2013 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:58:16 -0500 Subject: recent FCC actions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00f501cefbf9$33f66fa0$9be34ee0$@garysicecream.com> Did Dopie & Anthony get in trouble for misreporting than Mayor Menino was dead? I know they got fired but did their licensee get in trouble? That seems to be a lot worse than misreporting on some stuck up rich bi*&h singer. Gary Francis -----Original Message----- From: Boston-Radio-Interest [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@lists.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:01 AM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org Subject: recent FCC actions I hadn't checked out the recent infractions and penalties section of the FCC site in quite a while, but after Kevin's post, I thought I'd look around. From jibguy@aol.com Wed Dec 18 09:44:28 2013 From: jibguy@aol.com (Bob Bittner) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:44:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE In-Reply-To: <1B67590514FD4906A7FFA6955599A0EB@SatU205S5044> References: <1B67590514FD4906A7FFA6955599A0EB@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <8D0CA16C9B6A4C7-8A4-212E0@webmail-d181.sysops.aol.com> Who's Miley Cyrus? ----jibguy -----Original Message----- From: Dan.Strassberg To: Kevin Vahey ; Boston Radio Group Sent: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 6:20 am Subject: Re: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE Is this item of enough importance to justify the publicity you are giving it on this thread? My opinion is that it is not, except, maybe, if you are a teen-age girl. However, I don't believe that the list membership includes any teen-age girls. I know...since I am not interested in the topic, I should simply ignore postings to this thread. Still, I think the entire thread deserves a rest. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 12:54 AM Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE > The deception that WXKS-FM (KISS 108) pulled on Saturday night at TD > Garden > keeps getting worse. Not only did they tell people at TD that Miley Cyrus > was backstage - they also said so to their listeners and promoted the fact > they would hear her live to keep listeners hooked. From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Dec 18 13:26:44 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:26:44 -0500 Subject: recent FCC actions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21169.59620.477472.216131@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I noticed that TBS was fined > $25,000 last month for a television ad that simulated EAS sounds to grab > viewer attention. Apparently a radio station in Kentucky may have done > something along the same lines back in 2012 and has suffered penalties because > of it. Interesting. There's a rule that specifically targets "attention-getting noises". Unfortunately, the text of the rule only says "see this Commission order from the 1970s" so I don't know what the precise contours are. The FCC has two ways of making policy: they can go through the standard notice-and-comment rulemaking process, or they can do it through adjudication. A number of "broadcast nuisance" rules are written like this -- "you can't do what we said you couldn't do in this decision back in 1967." -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Dec 18 13:31:13 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:31:13 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE In-Reply-To: References: <21169.17570.356401.592812@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <21169.59889.707184.250674@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I would agree that CC could easily lawyer their way out of this. It's not a matter of "laywering they way out of" it. They haven't done anything that violates the Communications Act, so it's none of the FCC's business. Perhaps someone might have a state-law claim, if there was a cognizable legal injury which is within CC's power to remedy, but the Commission has enough to worry about enforcing its own rules; it's not going to be policing every instance of broadcast untruth. (It would have to devote an entire staff just to Limbaugh alone if it wanted to, which it doesn't, and thankfully, it lacks any authority to do so.) > Telling the listeners of 107.9 that Miley would soon appear is another > matter entirely. Not at all. -GAWollman From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Dec 18 13:41:36 2013 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:41:36 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE In-Reply-To: <21169.59889.707184.250674@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <21169.17570.356401.592812@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <21169.59889.707184.250674@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <01ea01cefc20$c80cfb10$5826f130$@net> > > Telling the listeners of 107.9 that Miley would soon appear is > > another matter entirely. > > Not at all. If radio stations were fined every time they lied to listeners, I guess they would not be able to do the fake prank phone calls that they do on Jamn 94.5, Hot 96.9, etc. These prank calls these days are all done by actors, either at a national programming service or locally at the station with behind the scenes personnel, etc, every since the FCC made it a requirement to tell callers when they are on the air. No way they will be fined for this. Jeff Lehmann From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 18 16:26:24 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 16:26:24 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE References: <20131218203955.209840@gmx.com> Message-ID: <4A9EA253A8D247F9AB68BCFA5E217900@SatU205S5044> If I'm not misrtaken (and I don't believe I am), Greater Media owns 96.9; CCU does not. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Bob Bittner" ; ; ; Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 3:39 PM Subject: Re: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE > >----- Original Message ----- >>From: Bob Bittner >>Sent: 12/18/13 09:44 AM >>To: dan.strassberg@att.net, kvahey@gmail.com, >>boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org >>Subject: Re: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE > >>Who's Miley Cyrus? >----jibguy >-----Original Message----- >From: >>Dan.Strassberg >To: Kevin Vahey >>; Boston Radio Group >> >Sent: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 >>6:20 am >Subject: Re: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE >Is >>this item of enough importance to justify the publicity you are giving it >> >on this thread?> From lglavin@mail.com Wed Dec 18 15:39:54 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:39:54 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE Message-ID: <20131218203955.209840@gmx.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bob Bittner >Sent: 12/18/13 09:44 AM >To: dan.strassberg@att.net, kvahey@gmail.com, boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE >Who's Miley Cyrus? >----jibguy >-----Original Message----- >From: Dan.Strassberg >To: Kevin Vahey ; Boston Radio Group >Sent: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 6:20 am >Subject: Re: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE >Is this item of enough importance to justify the publicity you are giving it >on this thread? My opinion is that it is not, except, maybe, if you are a >teen-age girl. However, I don't believe that the list membership includes >any teen-age girls. I know...since I am not interested in the topic, I >should simply ignore postings to this thread. Still, I think the entire >thread deserves a rest. >----- >Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >eFax 1-707-215-6367 ................... This raises something that has puzzled me for several months. WCVB-TV from time-to-time has run ads for WXKS-FM in their local news and adjacencies to ABC'TV's "This Week" at 9:59 am on Sundays. I haven't seen any lately, possibly because numerous advertisers are clamoring for avails right now during the holiday season. But if they resume shortly into MMXIV, I have to wonder if Kiss 108 thinks there's a significant cohort of teenagers watching the news or a Sunday morning talking-heads show whom they can attract away from the other four stations in town with a similar format (co-owned 94.5; 96.9; 101.7; & 103.3). WBZ-TV has run ads for WODS-103.3 in its newcasts, but they're both owned by CBS. From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Dec 18 18:07:07 2013 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:07:07 -0500 Subject: WCVB Audio Video out of sync Message-ID: <017501cefc45$e0c80170$a2580450$@garysicecream.com> Trying to watch NewsCenter 5 at 6 is difficult tonight. There seem to be audio problems with anything recorded..out of sync (audio and video). Live anchors and live field reports are OK but anything recorded is out of sync. Is this a time base error? Gary Francis From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Dec 18 17:13:08 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:13:08 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE In-Reply-To: <4A9EA253A8D247F9AB68BCFA5E217900@SatU205S5044> References: <20131218203955.209840@gmx.com> <4A9EA253A8D247F9AB68BCFA5E217900@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: Bob - Miley is someone WJIB might be playing in 50 years.......maybe Clear Channel is now saying they were mislead as well - her band and dancers were at TD Garden and they assumed she was as well. http://bostonherald.com/inside_track/the_inside_track/2013/12/local_fans_frosted_after_miley_cyrus_flakes But Miley herself was tweeting that she was stuck in NJ hours before https://twitter.com/MileyCyrus/status/411993843370692608 I know a couple that spent a lot of money so their daughter could see Miley and the girl was heartbroken. Her mother teaches at Harvard Law and she has already contacted the FCC about this. Romeo is on stage telling the crowd that she is there - and on air they are saying she is there. That is consumer fraud. If they had been honest up front people would have been upset but given the snowstorm would have understood. In this age of instant communication they at least could have had Miley on screen via Skype saying she was sorry. Somebody mentioned Opie & Anthony's fake Menino report - but they were fired. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > If I'm not misrtaken (and I don't believe I am), Greater Media owns 96.9; > CCU does not. > > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" > To: "Bob Bittner" ; ; > ; > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 3:39 PM > > Subject: Re: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE > > > >----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: Bob Bittner >>> Sent: 12/18/13 09:44 AM >>> To: dan.strassberg@att.net, kvahey@gmail.com, >>> boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org >>> Subject: Re: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE >>> >> >> Who's Miley Cyrus? >----jibguy >-----Original Message----- >From: >>> Dan.Strassberg >To: Kevin Vahey >>> ; Boston Radio Group >>> >Sent: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 >>> 6:20 am >Subject: Re: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE >>> >Is >>> this item of enough importance to justify the publicity you are giving it >>> >on this thread?> >>> >> > From markwa1ion@aol.com Wed Dec 18 20:59:24 2013 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:59:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8D0CA75131BA978-24D4-24345@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> correction WKOX not WXKS for 1430 From markwa1ion@aol.com Wed Dec 18 20:48:31 2013 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:48:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air Message-ID: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> I attended a Christmas party with former co-workers at a restaurant north of Boston today (18 DEC) and during my drive back and forth I noted a station with jazz music on 1410. The station did not identify at the top of the hour (e.g. 11 a.m.) but finally around 11:10 a.m. a male announcer ID'ed as "Boston's Real Jazz, 1410 WZBR". Music was about 80% instrumental 20% vocal. A number of jazz styles were played covering from '40s up to contemporary hip-hop / jazz fusion. This is the former WMSX channel (WOKW if your wayback machine is set to 1961 or so). The station was formerly sited in Brockton but has now been relocated about 12 miles north to be more of a rimshot Boston market station. It is licensed to Dedham, MA and actually transmits from just over the line in Boston's Readville / Hyde Park section (42.23472? N, 71.13694? W). Day power is 610 watts, night power 25 watts. On my morning (northward) ride on Route 3, the station got to good strength around the Derby Street (Hingham / Weymouth) exit and built up in strength from there. Maximum level (roughly judged by splash-over to 1400) was in the vicinity of the Expressway (I-93) crossing of the Neponset River in Milton, a high-conductivity salt-marsh area near the 1260 WMKI site. The station continued coming in well right up to the entrance to the Tip O'Neill (Big Dig) tunnel by Boston's South Station. When I emerged from the north end of the tunnel and went onto the Zakim Bridge, the 1410 signal was being totally shredded by 1430 WXKS. This continued up to Spot Pond (Winchester / Stoneham). By Montvale Ave., 1410 was in the clear again though not particularly strong. At the 93 / 128 (a.k.a. 95) intersection in Reading / Woburn, 1410 signal strength was about the same as adjacent 1400 WLLH. That would be not local grade but not deep fringe either: listenable in open areas on a car radio but of little use in built-up areas with overhead power lines. On the afternoon return trip to the Cape, I had 1410 audio down Route 3 to about Route 139. The last gasp of good signal was at the North River crossing where there's a large open wetland. A mile or so south of there (i.e. at 139) the signal got fairly noisy and, at 3 p.m., as I was in the Duxbury area, early skip from CJWI-QC and WPOP-CT was pretty much wiping out the small signal left of WZBR. Overall the signal was better than a pirate but less than that of little 250 watt WJIB 740 (which has the benefit of a lower dial position and a better tower). WJIB outruns WZBR both north and south of Boston. WJIB holds up going south on Route 3 to the Route 53 / 3A exit in Kingston. The wind turbine by Exit 8 tosses out a fair amount of broadband white-noise electro-smog so WJIB takes a hit for almost a mile there. It's playable again down to about Route 44. Early skip (WNYH-NY, CHCM-NL, and CFZM-ON) started chewing up WJIB around 3:15 p.m. in the Plymouth pinelands south of Route 44. Adjacent WJTO 730 was doing better in Plymouth: stronger with just a hint of Montreal early skip creeping in behind. Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Dec 18 21:22:20 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 21:22:20 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE In-Reply-To: References: <20131218203955.209840@gmx.com> <4A9EA253A8D247F9AB68BCFA5E217900@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <21170.22620.270740.513718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I know a couple that spent a lot of money so their daughter could see Miley > and the girl was heartbroken. Her mother teaches at Harvard Law and she has > already contacted the FCC about this. > Romeo is on stage telling the crowd that she is there - and on air they are > saying she is there. That is consumer fraud. State-law matter, if that's even true, and none of the FCC's business. Were they still selling tickets? -GAWollman From markwa1ion@aol.com Wed Dec 18 21:23:13 2013 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 21:23:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: WCAP's "non-get-out-ability" Message-ID: <8D0CA7866F672B6-24D4-24524@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> Maybe this has already been mentioned: WCAP 980 Lowell seems to have a signal that would more like a power level of 1 kW than 5 kW. Today (about 2 p.m.) I checked it when I was on I-93 near the Assembly Square mall in Somerville. It was only at equal level to adjacent 970 WZAN Portland, ME. I remember it being better than that. Mark Connelly South Yarmouth, MA From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 18 12:45:12 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 12:45:12 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE In-Reply-To: <8D0CA16C9B6A4C7-8A4-212E0@webmail-d181.sysops.aol.com> References: <1B67590514FD4906A7FFA6955599A0EB@SatU205S5044> <8D0CA16C9B6A4C7-8A4-212E0@webmail-d181.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Miley, of course is the daughter of Billy Ray Cyrus. You may now ask, OK, who is Billy Ray Cyrus? Well he did that achy-breaky country song, and she had a sitcom on the Disney Channel and is a teen fave, etc. >>if you get any response other than a form letter stating pretty much what Garrett already said about the matter, I'll be (somewhat pleasantly) surprised Same goes for anyone who thinks a format change should have the FCC step in, whether it's progressive talk being dumped, or a public station dumping jazz, classical, or folk music in favor of news and talk... Serving the public trust-- if they run public service announcements and maybe public affairs, keep a public file etc., obey regulations, they're doing that, and otherwise they are pleasing stockholders by (hopefully) making money. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Bob Bittner wrote: > > Who's Miley Cyrus? > ----jibguy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan.Strassberg > To: Kevin Vahey ; Boston Radio Group < > boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org> > Sent: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 6:20 am > Subject: Re: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE > > > Is this item of enough importance to justify the publicity you are giving > it > on this thread? My opinion is that it is not, except, maybe, if you are a > teen-age girl. However, I don't believe that the list membership includes > any teen-age girls. I know...since I am not interested in the topic, I > should simply ignore postings to this thread. Still, I think the entire > thread deserves a rest. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Vahey" > To: "Boston Radio Group" > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 12:54 AM > Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE > > > > The deception that WXKS-FM (KISS 108) pulled on Saturday night at TD > > Garden > > keeps getting worse. Not only did they tell people at TD that Miley Cyrus > > was backstage - they also said so to their listeners and promoted the > fact > > they would hear her live to keep listeners hooked. > > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 19 01:07:00 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 01:07:00 -0500 Subject: WXKS-FM (KISS 108) GETS CAUGHT LYING TO AUDIENCE In-Reply-To: <8D0CA16C9B6A4C7-8A4-212E0@webmail-d181.sysops.aol.com> References: <1B67590514FD4906A7FFA6955599A0EB@SatU205S5044> <8D0CA16C9B6A4C7-8A4-212E0@webmail-d181.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <52B28D04.4010309@attorneyross.com> On 12/18/2013 9:44 AM, Bob Bittner wrote: > Who's Miley Cyrus? > ----jibguy I'm not sure whether you're serious about this, but she's the daughter of Billy Ray Cyrus, who appeared on a Disney channel series for a number of years. These days she's trying to show she's grown up by trying to be outrageous. I doubt you'd want to play any of her music on WJIB. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 19 01:14:08 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 01:14:08 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> On 12/18/2013 8:48 PM, Mark Connelly wrote: > I attended a Christmas party with former co-workers at a restaurant > north of Boston today (18 DEC) and during my drive back and forth I > noted a station with jazz music on 1410. The station did not identify > at the top of the hour (e.g. 11 a.m.) but finally around 11:10 a.m. a > male announcer ID'ed as "Boston's Real Jazz, 1410 WZBR". Music was > about 80% instrumental 20% vocal. A number of jazz styles were played > covering from '40s up to contemporary hip-hop / jazz fusion. This is > the former WMSX channel (WOKW if your wayback machine is set to 1961 > or so). The station was formerly sited in Brockton but has now been > relocated about 12 miles north to be more of a rimshot Boston market > station. It is licensed to Dedham, MA and actually transmits from > just over the line in Boston's Readville / Hyde Park section > (42.23472? N, 71.13694? W). Day power is 610 watts, night power 25 > watts. I seem to recall someone (Scott Fybush, I think) noting some years ago that the only AM station within the Boston city limits was WBZ's auxiliary transmitter on Soldier's Field Road. I guess now there's another. Interesting to see another AM music station. I wonder how long it will last. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Dec 19 02:26:15 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 02:26:15 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Interesting to see another AM music station. I wonder how long it will > last. Well, it's an Alex Langer station, and his other station in the area, 650 here in Framingham (licensed Ashland), does Portuguese-language programming. People were speculating whether he would simulcast, but clearly he's not doing that (at least, not yet). But I wouldn't be surprised if the jazz programming were really just filler for parts of the day that he can't broker, and I bet he would shift to something else if he gets enough brokered shows to make a full-time format. -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 19 09:46:16 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:46:16 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <431828E0DEA34FB795FFCF37FAE4249C@SatU205S5044> Great report, Mark, but what's NL? I don't think you meant Newfoundland, which, AFAIK, is NF and could well be what you meant. I thought NL was Nuevo Laredo (Mexico), which must be 2000 miles away. Is that what you _really_ meant? Really? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Connelly" To: ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:48 PM Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air >I attended a Christmas party with former co-workers at a restaurant north >of Boston today (18 DEC) and during my drive back and forth I noted a >station with jazz music on 1410. The station did not identify at the top >of the hour (e.g. 11 a.m.) but finally around 11:10 a.m. a male announcer >ID'ed as "Boston's Real Jazz, 1410 WZBR".> > Mark Connelly, WA1ION > South Yarmouth, MA > From markwa1ion@aol.com Thu Dec 19 11:45:47 2013 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:45:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: 740 (was: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air) In-Reply-To: <8D0CAE146D2C2F3-1938-267E3@webmail-d262.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <431828E0DEA34FB795FFCF37FAE4249C@SatU205S5044> <8D0CAE146D2C2F3-1938-267E3@webmail-d262.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8D0CAF0E6AE4C04-1978-287A9@webmail-m131.sysops.aol.com> On the west-null cardioid pattern antenna I run here, CHCM Marystown, Newfoundland dominates 740 at night quite often as the antenna reduces co-channel CFZM Toronto which would typically dominate on other antennas. CHCM was formerly known as CBNM when it relayed CBC-network 640 CBN St. John's. Now it relays 590 VOCM St. John's with a country format. Marc is right, as noted below. NL has replaced NF as the abbreviation for Newfoundland-Labrador as QC has replaced PQ for Quebec. Not to mention that NU (Nunavut) is a fairly recent Canadian addition. There are no Mexican stations that I have ever heard on 740 in nearly 55 years of listening. Mark Connelly South Yarmouth, MA << Dan- As far as I know, "NL" has been Canada's official abbreviation for Newfoundland/Labrador for some time now. Marc DeLorenzo South Dennis, Cape Cod, Massachusetts http://forums.wtfda.org/showthread.php?228-DeLorenzo-s-Classic-DX >> Great report, Mark, but what's NL? I don't think you meant Newfoundland, which, AFAIK, is NF and could well be what you meant. I thought NL was Nuevo Laredo (Mexico), which must be 2000 miles away. Is that what you _really_ meant? Really? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Dec 19 14:20:33 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:20:33 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <431828E0DEA34FB795FFCF37FAE4249C@SatU205S5044> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <431828E0DEA34FB795FFCF37FAE4249C@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <21171.18177.492171.645525@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Great report, Mark, but what's NL? I don't think you meant Newfoundland, > which, AFAIK, is NF and could well be what you meant. The Canadian postal symbol for the province of Newfoundland and Labrador changed a decade or more ago to "NL", as the provincial goverment undertook a variety of measures to make the mainlanders feel more included in their province (including spelling out "Newfoundland and Labrador" in many provincial functions that had previously said just "Newfoundland"). -GAWollman From markwa1ion@aol.com Thu Dec 19 17:33:11 2013 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:33:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: WCAP's "non-get-out-ability" In-Reply-To: References: <8D0CA7866F672B6-24D4-24524@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8D0CB216F07AB3E-2650-29C30@webmail-m227.sysops.aol.com> Pattern if aimed towards the Cape would be SE not SW. Anyway the WCAP signal here in South Yarmouth is poor during the day (slammed by slop from 970 WZAN) and non-existent at night. In the evening I used to be able to get reasonable pieces of the oldies music and Dick Summer's midnight talk show (better in the summer when skip is short). Now WOFX Troy, NY is dominant with WTEM Washington, DC a bit under, along with assorted stations from Cuba and South America. Soon a Montreal station will be coming on to jumble up 980 a bit more. WCAP 5 kW night was acceptable down I-93 into the Stoneham area but now I suspect that they barely get into Billerica before getting bothered by WOFX. Mark Connelly South Yarmouth, MA -----Original Message----- From: Bill O'Neill To: Mark Connelly ; boston-radio-interest Sent: Thu, Dec 19, 2013 4:31 pm Subject: RE: WCAP's "non-get-out-ability" From what has been noted here, WCAP has been operating on its 1 kW back-up. The issue with them is it is not ND at 1 kW but is feeding the same pattern that their licensed 5 kW. ?In full power, the signal days is fairly ND while the night is 'practically' a shotgun aiming SW with serious signal aiming to the cape and nearly flea power aiming 10 miles into NH at night. Cut back to 1 kW, it's not just weaker signal but also very questionable audio quality going through it. ? It appears to have been in this status for a number of months. Very odd that they would find that acceptable, in effect only serving Lowell and contiguous towns.? Bill O'Neill (WCAP Alum) > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: WCAP's "non-get-out-ability" > From: markwa1ion@aol.com > Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 21:23:13 -0500 > > Maybe this has already been mentioned: WCAP 980 Lowell seems to have a > signal that would more like a power level of 1 kW than 5 kW. > > Today (about 2 p.m.) I checked it when I was on I-93 near the Assembly > Square mall in Somerville. It was only at equal level to adjacent 970 > WZAN Portland, ME. > > I remember it being better than that. > > Mark Connelly > South Yarmouth, MA > From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 20 01:54:56 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 01:54:56 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <431828E0DEA34FB795FFCF37FAE4249C@SatU205S5044> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <431828E0DEA34FB795FFCF37FAE4249C@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <52B3E9C0.2070200@attorneyross.com> On 12/19/2013 9:46 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Great report, Mark, but what's NL? I don't think you meant > Newfoundland, which, AFAIK, is NF and could well be what you meant. I > thought NL was Nuevo Laredo (Mexico), which must be 2000 miles away. > Is that what you _really_ meant? Really? Effective in December 2001, the Province of Newfoundland was renamed the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_and_Labrador -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Dec 20 03:11:45 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 03:11:45 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: Give Langer credit as he is spending money in the hopes of getting a revenue stream to sustain it. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:26 AM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < > said: > > > Interesting to see another AM music station. I wonder how long it will > > last. > > Well, it's an Alex Langer station, and his other station in the area, > 650 here in Framingham (licensed Ashland), does Portuguese-language > programming. People were speculating whether he would simulcast, but > clearly he's not doing that (at least, not yet). But I wouldn't be > surprised if the jazz programming were really just filler for parts of > the day that he can't broker, and I bet he would shift to something > else if he gets enough brokered shows to make a full-time format. > > -GAWollman > > From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Dec 21 01:34:46 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:34:46 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> On 12/20/2013 3:11 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Give Langer credit as he is spending money in the hopes of getting a > revenue stream to sustain it. I wonder where he gets a revenue stream for this. There have been a number of efforts to have a jazz station on FM, and it's never taken off. Who would advertise on a jazz station on AM? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Dec 21 14:16:59 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 14:16:59 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Joe I have no clue on what Langer's business plan is but he spent a few bucks on this transmitter move. On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 1:34 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 12/20/2013 3:11 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > Give Langer credit as he is spending money in the hopes of getting a > revenue stream to sustain it. > > > I wonder where he gets a revenue stream for this. There have been a > number of efforts to have a jazz station on FM, and it's never taken off. > Who would advertise on a jazz station on AM? > > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sat Dec 21 14:19:47 2013 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 14:19:47 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: This is jus filler till he can sell time to religious and ethnic broadcasters, I'm sure. Paul On Saturday, December 21, 2013, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Joe > > I have no clue on what Langer's business plan is but he spent a few bucks > on this transmitter move. > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 1:34 AM, A Joseph Ross > > wrote: > > > On 12/20/2013 3:11 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > > > Give Langer credit as he is spending money in the hopes of getting a > > revenue stream to sustain it. > > > > > > I wonder where he gets a revenue stream for this. There have been a > > number of efforts to have a jazz station on FM, and it's never taken off. > > Who would advertise on a jazz station on AM? > > > > > > -- > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA > 02109-2004617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Dec 21 14:11:55 2013 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 14:11:55 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <65AF99AF-ADF0-4BA3-8397-C76BD31EE765@comcast.net> The jazz is almost certainly just on there for testing. I'm sure it'll be leased programming of some sort eventually, where he will make money. Jeff Lehmann > On Dec 21, 2013, at 1:34 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > >> On 12/20/2013 3:11 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> >> Give Langer credit as he is spending money in the hopes of getting a revenue stream to sustain it. > > I wonder where he gets a revenue stream for this. There have been a number of efforts to have a jazz station on FM, and it's never taken off. Who would advertise on a jazz station on AM? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Dec 22 10:34:57 2013 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 10:34:57 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air Message-ID: <26020620.1387726497004.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:34:46 -0500 >From: A Joseph Ross >To: Kevin Vahey , Garrett Wollman > >Cc: >Subject: Re: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air > >On 12/20/2013 3:11 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > >> Give Langer credit as he is spending money in the hopes >> of getting a revenue stream to sustain it. > >I wonder where he gets a revenue stream for this. There >have been a number of efforts to have a jazz station on FM, >and it's never taken off. Who would advertise on a jazz >station on AM? I don't think he meant a revenue stream for the jazz format, which is most likely a temporary placeholder. I think he meant a revenue stream for the Portuguese/ethnic format that the station will reportedly switch to, by selling airtime via brokered programming and/or by local ethnic sponsors. Much of the programming on Langers' 650 AM WSRO is brokered, bought airtime by Portuguese and Brazilian program producers. EP From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Dec 23 13:06:56 2013 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 13:06:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, A Joseph Ross wrote: > I wonder where he gets a revenue stream for this. There have been a number > of efforts to have a jazz station on FM, and it's never taken off. Who would > advertise on a jazz station on AM? The "Real Jazz" format came about when WZBR was operating from its temporary site in Brockton, which was in a residential neighborhood. The landlord agreed to host a transmitter in his basement and a longwire antenna across his back yard on condition tht the format be in English with a clearly identifiable way to contact the station in case any of his neighbors had RFI complaints. So, I was asked to come up with a solution. I had an old computer in my closet loaded with Rivendell, so I dragged it out, copied about 5,000 jazz cuts into it, and created "Real Jazz 1410" on a Sunday afternoon. I then drove the computer down to the landlord's house in Brockton and installed it next to the transmitter in his basement. When the transmitter moved to Hyde Park in October, my computer moved with it. It's now running in one of the former WKOX/WVBF studios in Framingham. When WZBR's permanent format debuts, the computer will go back in my closet. A real "Real Jazz" format would be done more elegantly, taking into account that some styles of jazz are more popular than others, with "hit" songs in tighter rotation, and incorporating news, weather reports, and other features. The present format only crudely distinguishes different styles, and plays everything in the library more or less at random. There is, after all, only so much one can accomplish in one afternoon. Rob From 011010001@interpring.com Mon Dec 23 16:24:50 2013 From: 011010001@interpring.com (Rob Landry) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 16:24:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > This is very interesting. Thanks. I'm amazed that an AM station today > could operate from a longwire antenna. It's not on the longwire any more. The Hyde Park antenna is a 75-foot Valcom whip. Rob From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Dec 23 16:17:40 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 16:17:40 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> This is very interesting. Thanks. I'm amazed that an AM station today could operate from a longwire antenna. On 12/23/2013 1:06 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > The "Real Jazz" format came about when WZBR was operating from its > temporary site in Brockton, which was in a residential neighborhood. > The landlord agreed to host a transmitter in his basement and a > longwire antenna across his back yard on condition tht the format be > in English with a clearly identifiable way to contact the station in > case any of his neighbors had RFI complaints. > > So, I was asked to come up with a solution. I had an old computer in > my closet loaded with Rivendell, so I dragged it out, copied about > 5,000 jazz cuts into it, and created "Real Jazz 1410" on a Sunday > afternoon. I then drove the computer down to the landlord's house in > Brockton and installed it next to the transmitter in his basement. > When the transmitter moved to Hyde Park in October, my computer moved > with it. It's now running in one of the former WKOX/WVBF studios in > Framingham. When WZBR's permanent format debuts, the computer will go > back in my closet. > > A real "Real Jazz" format would be done more elegantly, taking into > account that some styles of jazz are more popular than others, with > "hit" songs in tighter rotation, and incorporating news, weather > reports, and other features. The present format only crudely > distinguishes different styles, and plays everything in the library > more or less at random. > > There is, after all, only so much one can accomplish in one afternoon. > > > Rob > > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Mon Dec 23 17:20:05 2013 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 17:20:05 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Im not amazed, it happens more often then you think/realize. It's not common place, but it does happen.. especially on an emergency/temporary basis. Paul On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:17 PM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > This is very interesting. Thanks. I'm amazed that an AM station today > could operate from a longwire antenna. > > > On 12/23/2013 1:06 PM, Rob Landry wrote: > > The "Real Jazz" format came about when WZBR was operating from its >> temporary site in Brockton, which was in a residential neighborhood. The >> landlord agreed to host a transmitter in his basement and a longwire >> antenna across his back yard on condition tht the format be in English with >> a clearly identifiable way to contact the station in case any of his >> neighbors had RFI complaints. >> >> So, I was asked to come up with a solution. I had an old computer in my >> closet loaded with Rivendell, so I dragged it out, copied about 5,000 jazz >> cuts into it, and created "Real Jazz 1410" on a Sunday afternoon. I then >> drove the computer down to the landlord's house in Brockton and installed >> it next to the transmitter in his basement. When the transmitter moved to >> Hyde Park in October, my computer moved with it. It's now running in one of >> the former WKOX/WVBF studios in Framingham. When WZBR's permanent format >> debuts, the computer will go back in my closet. >> >> A real "Real Jazz" format would be done more elegantly, taking into >> account that some styles of jazz are more popular than others, with "hit" >> songs in tighter rotation, and incorporating news, weather reports, and >> other features. The present format only crudely distinguishes different >> styles, and plays everything in the library more or less at random. >> >> There is, after all, only so much one can accomplish in one afternoon. >> >> >> Rob >> >> >> > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com > > From ssmyth@psualum.com Tue Dec 24 04:50:47 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 01:50:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <1387878647.23164.YahooMailNeo@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Paul B. Walker Jr. wrote: "Im not amazed, it happens more often then you think/realize. It's not common place, but it does happen.. especially on an emergency/temporary basis." How efficient/effective are longwire antennas vs. standard towers at the same frequency/power level? From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Tue Dec 24 07:57:16 2013 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 07:57:16 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <1387878647.23164.YahooMailNeo@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com > References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> <1387878647.23164.YahooMailNeo@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20131224075541.03cfea10@plymouthcolony.net> At 04:50 AM 12/24/2013, Sean Smyth wrote: >How efficient/effective are longwire antennas vs. standard towers at the same frequency/power level? Not very, which is why the Commission allows them for STAs only. Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Dec 24 10:37:32 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 10:37:32 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> <1387878647.23164.YahooMailNeo@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20131224075541.03cfea10@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: When operated at 1200 kHz or above and a ground system that consists of 120 1/4-wavelength ground radials, 75' Valcom whips are supposed to meet FCC efficiency requirements (inverse-distance field of 281.4 mV/m/kW) for standard AM radiators. I have a feeling, however, that that prediction may be a bit optimisitic. WZBR's horrible signal up here in Arlington Heights has been blamed on anomalous ground conditions, but I don't believe that, along the radials that point this way (roughly true north, IIRC), the signal comes close to the specified ID field. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale H. Cook" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: Re: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air > At 04:50 AM 12/24/2013, Sean Smyth wrote: > >>How efficient/effective are longwire antennas vs. standard towers at the >>same frequency/power level? > > Not very, which is why the Commission allows them for STAs only. > > Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA > http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html > From ssmyth@psualum.com Tue Dec 24 11:24:42 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 08:24:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> <1387878647.23164.YahooMailNeo@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20131224075541.03cfea10@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: <1387902282.94988.YahooMailNeo@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Dan Strassberg wrote; "WZBR's horrible signal up here in Arlington Heights has been blamed on anomalous ground conditions, but I don't believe that, along the radials that point this way (roughly true north, IIRC), the signal comes close to the specified ID field." The signal in Dorchester: -- Around 4-5 a.m. one day last week: Unlistenable. -- About 8:30 a.m. that same morning: Listenable, little to no noise underneath it. From mward@iname.com Tue Dec 24 11:01:04 2013 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 11:01:04 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20131224075541.03cfea10@plymouthcolony.net> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> <1387878647.23164.YahooMailNeo@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20131224075541.03cfea10@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: Dale, whatever happened to WLVA/590 in Lynchburg? It was on a long-wire STA for some time... On Dec 24, 2013 9:00 AM, "Dale H. Cook" wrote: > At 04:50 AM 12/24/2013, Sean Smyth wrote: > > >How efficient/effective are longwire antennas vs. standard towers at the > same frequency/power level? > > Not very, which is why the Commission allows them for STAs only. > > Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA > http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html > > From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Dec 24 20:27:01 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 20:27:01 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20131224075541.03cfea10@plymouthcolony.net> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> <1387878647.23164.YahooMailNeo@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20131224075541.03cfea10@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: <52BA3465.90906@attorneyross.com> On 12/24/2013 7:57 AM, Dale H. Cook wrote: > Not very, which is why the Commission allows them for STAs only. What's STAs? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From sids1045@aol.com Tue Dec 24 21:42:07 2013 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 21:42:07 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <52BA3465.90906@attorneyross.com> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> <1387878647.23164.YahooMailNeo@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20131224075541.03cfea10@plymouthcolony.net> <52BA3465.90906@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: "What's STAs?" Special Temporary Authority. It allows a licensee to operate a station under certain conditions which vary from those specified on the license. They're often issued by the FCC when licensed antenna systems are damaged or AM directional antenna system patterns are out of tolerance. Problems with antenna systems are not always easy or quick to diagnose and/or repair, and an STA lets the station continue to broadcast while the problems are sorted out and fixed. From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Tue Dec 24 21:28:46 2013 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 21:28:46 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <52BA3465.90906@attorneyross.com> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> <1387878647.23164.YahooMailNeo@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20131224075541.03cfea10@plymouthcolony.net> <52BA3465.90906@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Special temporary authority. To operate outside of licensed parameters. Paul On Tuesday, December 24, 2013, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 12/24/2013 7:57 AM, Dale H. Cook wrote: > > Not very, which is why the Commission allows them for STAs only. >> > > What's STAs? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > > From irw@well.com Tue Dec 24 21:31:57 2013 From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 18:31:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air In-Reply-To: <52BA3465.90906@attorneyross.com> References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> <1387878647.23164.YahooMailNeo@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20131224075541.03cfea10@plymouthcolony.net> <52BA3465.90906@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <1441373795.256300.1387938717791.JavaMail.zimbra@well.com> Special Temporary Authority. http://transition.fcc.gov/pshs/services/sta.html has more information. Blaine Thompson --------------------------- Blaine Thompson Editor, Indiana RadioWatch irw@well.com http://www.indianaradio.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Joseph Ross" To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:27:01 PM Subject: Re: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air On 12/24/2013 7:57 AM, Dale H. Cook wrote: > Not very, which is why the Commission allows them for STAs only. What's STAs? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700 | Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 26 10:06:55 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 10:06:55 -0500 Subject: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air References: <8D0CA738D96A454-24D4-2428E@webmail-d129.sysops.aol.com> <52B28EB0.2080308@attorneyross.com> <21170.40855.38911.221718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <52B53686.5080806@attorneyross.com> <52B8A874.9000003@attorneyross.com> <1387878647.23164.YahooMailNeo@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20131224075541.03cfea10@plymouthcolony.net> <1387902282.94988.YahooMailNeo@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6061C98A669247F08E29DD140C7F8A78@SatU205S5044> I could be way wrong about the approximate straight-line distance from WZBR's Readville site to my house in Arlington Heights (I've been using 10 miles as the approximate distance), but even if 10 miles is way wrong, the distance from Readville to Arlington Heights has gotta be way greater than the distance from Readville to any point in Dorchester. If WZBR's signal in Dorchester is sometimes unlistenable and the station was using its permitted (610W) daytime power at the times when the signal in Dorchester was reported to be unlistenable, it seems unlikely that the poor signal could be blamed on anomalous ground conditions between Readville and Arlington. However, if the poor signal in Dorchester were the result of (say) testing the 30W nighttime signal during daylight hours, it could explain the reports of unlistenable signals in both Dorchester and Arlington. I guess we need to wait until a license to cover has been granted to see whether the signal improves. Also, Langer has a history of increasing the power of his new stations based on measured soil conductivity. If the 610W power was based on the FCC's M-3 soil-conductivity maps, he may well be planning to apply for a power increase after he receives a license and measures the signal strength along critical radials (such as those between Readville and Wellington Circle). ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Smyth" To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; ; "Dale H. Cook" Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 11:24 AM Subject: Re: "Boston's Real Jazz" WZBR 1410 on air > > > Dan Strassberg wrote; > > "WZBR's horrible signal up here in Arlington Heights > has been blamed on anomalous ground conditions, but I don't believe that, > along the radials that point this way (roughly true north, IIRC), the > signal > comes close to the specified ID field." > > The signal in Dorchester: > > -- Around 4-5 a.m. one day last week: Unlistenable. > -- About 8:30 a.m. that same morning: Listenable, little to no noise > underneath it. > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Dec 26 10:50:30 2013 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 10:50:30 -0500 Subject: WXBR 1460 Brockton Message-ID: The station has picked up, LIVE, all 7 nights of Keene,NH based syndicated talk show "Free Talk Live" http://www.freetalklive.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Dec 26 10:50:30 2013 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 10:50:30 -0500 Subject: WXBR 1460 Brockton Message-ID: The station has picked up, LIVE, all 7 nights of Keene,NH based syndicated talk show "Free Talk Live" http://www.freetalklive.com