From chris2526@comcast.net Fri Apr 5 01:47:23 2013 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 01:47:23 -0400 Subject: URI shooting scare Message-ID: I have to shake my head in disbelief, both WCVB-TV and WBZ-TV reported and are still reporting URI as being in Kingston rather than Kingstown, RI. Its astounding that two major market TV stations would misidentify and continue to misidentify a community 55-60 miles from Boston. Its not like it?s a town in Kentucky, they both had helicopters swarming the campus. It?s a total lack of attention to details that were once common place, the proper pronunciation of cities and towns and other things unique to New England. One would have thought that there would be a New England native in both newsrooms that would have caught such an embarrassing error From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Apr 5 04:58:57 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 04:58:57 -0400 Subject: URI shooting scare In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: WJAR and WPRI did the same It is very murky http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_Railroad_Station_(Rhode_Island) On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Chris Hall wrote: > I have to shake my head in disbelief, both WCVB-TV and WBZ-TV reported and > are still reporting URI as being in Kingston rather than > Kingstown, RI. Its astounding that two major market TV stations would > misidentify and continue to misidentify a community 55-60 miles from Boston. > Its not like it?s a town in Kentucky, they both had helicopters swarming > the campus. It?s a total lack of attention to details that were once common > place, the proper pronunciation of cities and towns and other things > unique to New England. One would have thought that there would be a New > England native in both newsrooms that would have caught such an > embarrassing error > From xradioguy@yahoo.com Fri Apr 5 06:53:24 2013 From: xradioguy@yahoo.com (Ari Alpert) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 03:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1365159204.71381.YahooMailNeo@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I grew up in RI and recall being confused by the naming convention in that part of the state (frequently called South County, which does not actually exist as an official name). As far as I know, there is no Kingstown, RI. URI is in Kingston (which is south of North Kingstown and east of West Kingston). http://www.uri.edu/home/visitors/Map/kingston_direction.html There seem to be so many odd naming conventions around here. Another one that comes to mind immediately is the section of road frequently referred to as 128 (described that way on traffic reports). Much of this stretch of road is part of I95 by exit number convention and then it suddenly becomes to 1/I93 in a different direction. I can only imagine how confusing traffic reports must be to people who move into the area (roads with odd names, counties that don't exist, etc.). -Ari ________________________________ From: Kevin Vahey To: Chris Hall Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 4:58 AM Subject: Re: URI shooting scare WJAR and WPRI did the same It is very murky http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_Railroad_Station_(Rhode_Island) On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Chris Hall wrote: > I have to shake my head in disbelief, both WCVB-TV and WBZ-TV reported and > are still reporting URI as being in Kingston rather than > Kingstown, RI.? Its astounding that two major market TV stations would > misidentify and continue to misidentify a community 55-60 miles from Boston. > Its not like it?s a town in Kentucky, they both had helicopters swarming > the campus. It?s a total lack of attention to details that were once common > place, the proper pronunciation of cities and towns and other things > unique to New England. One would have thought that there would be? a New > England native in both newsrooms that would have caught such an > embarrassing error > From mamros@mit.edu Fri Apr 5 08:26:48 2013 From: mamros@mit.edu (Shawn Mamros) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:26:48 -0400 Subject: URI shooting scare In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201304051226.r35CQm0Z025014@outgoing.mit.edu> >I have to shake my head in disbelief, both WCVB-TV and WBZ-TV reported >and are still reporting URI as being in Kingston rather than >Kingstown, RI. Its astounding that two major market TV stations would >misidentify and continue to misidentify a community 55-60 miles from >Boston. I would think most people would quickly realize that the University of Rhode Island isn't in Kingston, Massachusetts. Saying Kingston, Rhode Island seems redundant given the context. -Shawn From keithlavon@gmail.com Fri Apr 5 09:10:49 2013 From: keithlavon@gmail.com (Keith Lavon) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:10:49 -0400 Subject: URI shooting scare In-Reply-To: <201304051226.r35CQm0Z025014@outgoing.mit.edu> References: <201304051226.r35CQm0Z025014@outgoing.mit.edu> Message-ID: The University of Rhode Island is in Kingston, RI, not Kingstown, RI. Here is, for example, the President's mailing address. *President's Office* Green Hall 35 Campus Avenue Kingston, RI 02881-1303 Check out www.uri.edu. At the bottom it lists Kingston, not Kingstown. Kingston is in South Kingstown however. So that weird enough. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Shawn Mamros wrote: > >I have to shake my head in disbelief, both WCVB-TV and WBZ-TV reported > >and are still reporting URI as being in Kingston rather than > >Kingstown, RI. Its astounding that two major market TV stations would > >misidentify and continue to misidentify a community 55-60 miles from > >Boston. > > I would think most people would quickly realize that the University > of Rhode Island isn't in Kingston, Massachusetts. > > Saying Kingston, Rhode Island seems redundant given the context. > > -Shawn > From pariho@mail.com Fri Apr 5 10:15:14 2013 From: pariho@mail.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:15:14 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions Message-ID: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> Ari....not a native, are you? 128 will aways be called 128 to those of us that grew up in the 128 corridor. In fact, IIRC, the stretch from the 95/93 intersection in Canton to the 93/3 intersection in Braintree is CALLED 128 even though it is no longer formally recognized as such (I believe 128 from Canton to Peabody is still formally recognized as 95/128). You can thank Gov Francis Sargent for that, indirectly...I 95 was supposed to cross 128 and continue into Milton, Hyde Park, Roxbury and connect to the current Expressway (93/3/1) at Mass Ave. They had already bulldozed the Roxbury section, but the Milton people had the influence and money to stop the project. The feds insisted that I 95 had to be unbroken from Ft Kent to Miami, so 128 became 95 about 1990 for continuity. BTW: The current Orange Line runs along the old I-95 roadbed in Roxbury, so at least they used it for SOMETHING. OH...and for radio connection...YES the Traffic Reporters still say 128, because that's what everone over 35 knows the road as..(Think of Kiss 108 for what is actually 107.9 WXKS-FM Medford) -Paul Hopfgarten Epping NH (Boston Native) ----- Original Message ----- From: Ari Alpert Sent: 04/05/13 06:53 AM To: Kevin Vahey, Chris Hall Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions I grew up in RI and recall being confused by the naming convention in that part of the state (frequently called South County, which does not actually exist as an official name). As far as I know, there is no Kingstown, RI. URI is in Kingston (which is south of North Kingstown and east of West Kingston). http://www.uri.edu/home/visitors/Map/kingston_direction.html There seem to be so many odd naming conventions around here. Another one that comes to mind immediately is the section of road frequently referred to as 128 (described that way on traffic reports). Much of this stretch of road is part of I95 by exit number convention and then it suddenly becomes to 1/I93 in a different direction. I can only imagine how confusing traffic reports must be to people who move into the area (roads with odd names, counties that don't exist, etc.). -Ari ________________________________ From: Kevin Vahey To: Chris Hall Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 4:58 AM Subject: Re: URI shooting scare WJAR and WPRI did the same It is very murky http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_Railroad_Station_(Rhode_Island) On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Chris Hall wrote: > I have to shake my head in disbelief, both WCVB-TV and WBZ-TV reported and > are still reporting URI as being in Kingston rather than > Kingstown, RI. Its astounding that two major market TV stations would > misidentify and continue to misidentify a community 55-60 miles from Boston. > Its not like it?s a town in Kentucky, they both had helicopters swarming > the campus. It?s a total lack of attention to details that were once common > place, the proper pronunciation of cities and towns and other things > unique to New England. One would have thought that there would be a New > England native in both newsrooms that would have caught such an > embarrassing error > From pariho@mail.com Fri Apr 5 10:17:17 2013 From: pariho@mail.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:17:17 -0400 Subject: URI shooting scare Message-ID: <20130405141717.224950@gmx.com> Southern NEW HAMPSHIRE Univerity has a physical campus in Brunswick ME, so actually I can see why URI is mentioned as in Kingston RI -Paul H ----- Original Message ----- From: Shawn Mamros Sent: 04/05/13 08:26 AM To: Chris Hall Subject: Re: URI shooting scare >I have to shake my head in disbelief, both WCVB-TV and WBZ-TV reported >and are still reporting URI as being in Kingston rather than >Kingstown, RI. Its astounding that two major market TV stations would >misidentify and continue to misidentify a community 55-60 miles from >Boston. I would think most people would quickly realize that the University of Rhode Island isn't in Kingston, Massachusetts. Saying Kingston, Rhode Island seems redundant given the context. -Shawn From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Apr 5 12:01:10 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:01:10 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> Message-ID: (Radio related): When visiting Chicago in the 90s I heard radio traffic reports for "the Edens", "the Eisenhower" and "the Kennedy". It would be helpful to know, for outsiders, which interstates, etc. they meant! And if you're not from Pittsburgh you have no idea what the Parkway East or Parkway West is, etc. In our area we know of "the gas tanks" (off Central Artery) and "the jughandle light" (Rt 1, Peabody). There were plans to put I-95 right through what's called "the southwest corridor", connecting with the central artery, then going up through Revere/Saugus/Lynn (you can see the exit to nowhere on US 1 in Revere) as well as an I-695 that would have been an inner loop (another exit to nowhere off of I-93). It was pressure from NIMBYs and BANANAs (not in my backyard, build absolutely nothing anywhere near anything) that killed off these projects. My Dad would say Gov Sargent had something to do with it, "yeah, 'put Sarge in charge' was his slogan". Route 128 pops up in Jonathan Richman's "Roadrunner" and the Dave Dinger Ford ad jingles, etc. And while I-95 is supposed by unbroken I think it "disappears" in favor of the N.J. Turnpike From mward@iname.com Fri Apr 5 12:27:45 2013 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:27:45 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> Message-ID: In Sacramento, we had "the W-X" and "the 29/30th", so named because the segments of Business Loop 80 (and Highway 50) run between W and X Streets and between 29th and 30th Streets. On Apr 5, 2013 12:03 PM, "Bob Nelson" wrote: > (Radio related): When visiting Chicago in the 90s I heard radio traffic > reports for "the Edens", "the Eisenhower" and "the Kennedy". It would be > helpful to know, for outsiders, which interstates, etc. they meant! And if > you're not from Pittsburgh you have no idea what the Parkway East or > Parkway West is, etc. In our area we know of "the gas tanks" (off Central > Artery) and "the jughandle light" (Rt 1, Peabody). > > There were plans to put I-95 right through what's called "the southwest > corridor", connecting with the central artery, then going up through > Revere/Saugus/Lynn > (you can see the exit to nowhere on US 1 in Revere) as well as an I-695 > that would have been an inner loop (another exit to nowhere off of I-93). > It was pressure from NIMBYs and BANANAs (not in my backyard, build > absolutely nothing anywhere near anything) that killed off these projects. > My Dad would say Gov Sargent had something to do with it, "yeah, 'put Sarge > in charge' was his slogan". > > Route 128 pops up in Jonathan Richman's "Roadrunner" and the Dave Dinger > Ford ad jingles, etc. And while I-95 is supposed by unbroken I think it > "disappears" in favor of the N.J. Turnpike > From sids1045@aol.com Fri Apr 5 12:39:48 2013 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:39:48 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> Message-ID: <1AC543C6-C08C-4257-874E-A689B744123C@aol.com> "It would be helpful to know, for outsiders, which interstates, etc. they meant!" Traffic reports on radio (and increasingly on TV) are not done for outsiders, because it's not usually outsiders who have to slog through it day after day to get to their jobs. From francini@mac.com Fri Apr 5 12:37:57 2013 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 12:37:57 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> Message-ID: <586E4BFB-ABF5-42F8-8769-03C698D23AE3@mac.com> Having just driven that stretch of I 95 in NJ: I 95 branches off in Delaware; the road becomes I 295 until after the bridge over the Delaware River, where the NJ turnpike begins. I 95 heads through Philadelphia and joins the NJ turnpike some 70 miles after the border. It used to be discontinuous, but I think the designations in NJ/PA got fixed around the same time that 128 picked up the I 95 designation. John -- John Francini "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress. And by God I have had *this* Congress!" --John Adams On Apr 5, 2013, at 12:01, Bob Nelson wrote: > (Radio related): When visiting Chicago in the 90s I heard radio traffic > reports for "the Edens", "the Eisenhower" and "the Kennedy". It would be > helpful to know, for outsiders, which interstates, etc. they meant! And if > you're not from Pittsburgh you have no idea what the Parkway East or > Parkway West is, etc. In our area we know of "the gas tanks" (off Central > Artery) and "the jughandle light" (Rt 1, Peabody). > > There were plans to put I-95 right through what's called "the southwest > corridor", connecting with the central artery, then going up through > Revere/Saugus/Lynn > (you can see the exit to nowhere on US 1 in Revere) as well as an I-695 > that would have been an inner loop (another exit to nowhere off of I-93). > It was pressure from NIMBYs and BANANAs (not in my backyard, build > absolutely nothing anywhere near anything) that killed off these projects. > My Dad would say Gov Sargent had something to do with it, "yeah, 'put Sarge > in charge' was his slogan". > > Route 128 pops up in Jonathan Richman's "Roadrunner" and the Dave Dinger > Ford ad jingles, etc. And while I-95 is supposed by unbroken I think it > "disappears" in favor of the N.J. Turnpike From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Apr 5 13:46:30 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 13:46:30 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: <586E4BFB-ABF5-42F8-8769-03C698D23AE3@mac.com> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <586E4BFB-ABF5-42F8-8769-03C698D23AE3@mac.com> Message-ID: I went years thinking Rumford and Riverside were separate town but they are actually parts of East Providence. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:37 PM, John Francini wrote: > Having just driven that stretch of I 95 in NJ: > > I 95 branches off in Delaware; the road becomes I 295 until after the > bridge over the Delaware River, where the NJ turnpike begins. I 95 heads > through Philadelphia and joins the NJ turnpike some 70 miles after the > border. > > It used to be discontinuous, but I think the designations in NJ/PA got > fixed around the same time that 128 picked up the I 95 designation. > > John > > -- > John Francini > "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; > that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress. > And by God I have had *this* Congress!" --John Adams > > On Apr 5, 2013, at 12:01, Bob Nelson wrote: > > > (Radio related): When visiting Chicago in the 90s I heard radio traffic > > reports for "the Edens", "the Eisenhower" and "the Kennedy". It would be > > helpful to know, for outsiders, which interstates, etc. they meant! And > if > > you're not from Pittsburgh you have no idea what the Parkway East or > > Parkway West is, etc. In our area we know of "the gas tanks" (off Central > > Artery) and "the jughandle light" (Rt 1, Peabody). > > > > There were plans to put I-95 right through what's called "the southwest > > corridor", connecting with the central artery, then going up through > > Revere/Saugus/Lynn > > (you can see the exit to nowhere on US 1 in Revere) as well as an I-695 > > that would have been an inner loop (another exit to nowhere off of > I-93). > > It was pressure from NIMBYs and BANANAs (not in my backyard, build > > absolutely nothing anywhere near anything) that killed off these > projects. > > My Dad would say Gov Sargent had something to do with it, "yeah, 'put > Sarge > > in charge' was his slogan". > > > > Route 128 pops up in Jonathan Richman's "Roadrunner" and the Dave Dinger > > Ford ad jingles, etc. And while I-95 is supposed by unbroken I think it > > "disappears" in favor of the N.J. Turnpike > > From bob.bosra@demattia.net Fri Apr 5 13:55:43 2013 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 13:55:43 -0400 Subject: I-95 / Route 128 In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com>, Message-ID: The cancellation was part of a larger cancellation of the entire I-695 beltway. The north end of I-695 would have connected onto I-93 (remember those ramp "stubs" on the overpass ?). The south end of I-695 would connect into the unusually large (at the time) intersection of Mass Ave/I-93 by the old steam plant. Before it was cancelled, some homes were torn down. Melnea Cass boulevard is built where part of I-695 was to be built. As for I-95, I've found some maps that show it joining I-695 and looping around counterclockwise to continue up the north shore. I-95 would then continue northeast through the Saugus salt marsh, past Lynn and Salem, and eventually join up with the part that was built north of 128. Not too long ago, you could see where they graded the land. It ran parallel and Northwest of route 107. Sometime in the last ten years, they finally removed the grading. Here's a map from 1965: http://www.brorson.com/maps/BostonHighwayPlan_1965/BostonHighwayPlan_1965.jpg We had our wedding reception about the same time they started removing most of the 128 signage (1992). I remember having to send out extra instructions to people from out of town because our original directions carelessly said "Rt. 128". Had all this been built, traffic reporters would have had more roads to cover, but arguably a little less congestion on I-93. I knew I could get a radio angle in here somehow. Bob From aerie.ma@comcast.net Fri Apr 5 14:38:02 2013 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 14:38:02 -0400 Subject: I-95 / Route 128 In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com>, Message-ID: <8DCD817766374F8F9FE0B9952270924A@AX229443> The intended alignment of I-95 from the Northeast Expressway is still pretty obvious on Google satellite view until you come to the river and Lynn http://maps.google.com/maps?q=saugus+MA&ll=42.432184,-71.004081&spn=0.008806 ,0.013797&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hnear=Saugus,+Essex,+Massachusetts&gl=us &t=h&z=16 As for I-95, I've found some maps that show it joining I-695 and looping around counterclockwise to continue up the north shore. I-95 would then continue northeast through the Saugus salt marsh, past Lynn and Salem, and eventually join up with the part that was built north of 128. Not too long ago, you could see where they graded the land. It ran parallel and Northwest of route 107. Sometime in the last ten years, they finally removed the grading. = From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Apr 5 14:40:41 2013 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:40:41 -0400 Subject: I-95 / Route 128 In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> Message-ID: At one time there were also plans to extend MA 213 from 93 into Lowell. You can see where the land was cleared just west of 93 in Methuen. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse the brevity. On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Bob DeMattia wrote: > The cancellation was part of a larger cancellation of the entire I-695 beltway. > The north end of I-695 would have connected onto I-93 (remember those > ramp "stubs" on the overpass ?). The south end of I-695 would connect > into the unusually large (at the time) intersection of Mass Ave/I-93 by the > old steam plant. > > Before it was cancelled, some homes were torn down. Melnea Cass boulevard > is built where part of I-695 was to be built. > > As for I-95, I've found some maps that show it joining I-695 and looping around > counterclockwise to continue up the north shore. I-95 would then continue > northeast through the Saugus salt marsh, past Lynn and Salem, and eventually > join up with the part that was built north of 128. > > Not too long ago, you could see where they graded the land. It ran parallel and > Northwest of route 107. Sometime in the last ten years, they finally removed > the grading. > > Here's a map from 1965: > http://www.brorson.com/maps/BostonHighwayPlan_1965/BostonHighwayPlan_1965.jpg > > We had our wedding reception about the same time they started removing most of the > 128 signage (1992). I remember having to send out extra instructions to people from > out of town because our original directions carelessly said "Rt. 128". > > Had all this been built, traffic reporters would have had more roads to cover, but arguably > a little less congestion on I-93. I knew I could get a radio angle in here somehow. > > > Bob > > From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 6 00:04:35 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 00:04:35 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> Message-ID: <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> On 4/5/2013 10:15 AM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > 128 will aways be called 128 to those of us that grew up in the 128 corridor. In fact, IIRC, the stretch from the 95/93 intersection in Canton to the 93/3 intersection in Braintree is CALLED 128 even though it is no longer formally recognized as such (I believe 128 from Canton to Peabody is still formally recognized as 95/128). And that caused me some confusion once, when I was coming back from Brockton on Route 24. I wanted to go north on Route 128 to the Dedham exit, but the sign said "93 South," and I ended up going the wrong way. I don't know what was so wrong about continuing to designate it as Rt. 128 along with whatever Interstate numbers they wanted to give it. The sign might have been understandable. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Apr 6 01:47:46 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 01:47:46 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: The Feds demanded that Mass kill 128 when after I-95 was killed and Mass decided that 95 would use 128. They also demanded that US 1 be shifted to the SE Expressway instead of the Jamaicaway. We can debate forever what would have happened if the Inner Belt (695) was built - and Route 2 was finished to feed into it. Today after the Big Dig - driving downtown towards NH and Maine you have to deal with Rt. 1 ( unless you take 93 to 95 ) Providence is 10 miles longer than it would have been with SW corridor. Rte. 2 as an expressway ends at Fresh Pond. The late Joe Green from WBZ told me once that 95 should have been built in the SW corridor and 95 should have been built through Saugus and Lynn to the Tobin. He was glad 695 was scrapped. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 4/5/2013 10:15 AM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > > 128 will aways be called 128 to those of us that grew up in the 128 >> corridor. In fact, IIRC, the stretch from the 95/93 intersection in Canton >> to the 93/3 intersection in Braintree is CALLED 128 even though it is no >> longer formally recognized as such (I believe 128 from Canton to Peabody is >> still formally recognized as 95/128). >> > > And that caused me some confusion once, when I was coming back from > Brockton on Route 24. I wanted to go north on Route 128 to the Dedham > exit, but the sign said "93 South," and I ended up going the wrong way. I > don't know what was so wrong about continuing to designate it as Rt. 128 > along with whatever Interstate numbers they wanted to give it. The sign > might have been understandable. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > > From xradioguy@yahoo.com Sat Apr 6 07:06:05 2013 From: xradioguy@yahoo.com (Ari Alpert) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 04:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> Message-ID: <1365246365.47115.YahooMailNeo@web162606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Lived in Chicagoland for 3 years during the 90's and thought it was much easier to understand radio traffic as an outsider. The names "Edens", "Eisenhower" (aka the "Ike"), and "Kennedy" actually appear on maps. Not sure I recall ever seeing "gas tanks" or "jughandle" in the Boston area or "South County" or "Big Blue Bug" in RI on any maps. I think east coast cities are a bit more provincial than other areas of the country (we like our landmarks and old names for things). For people just travelling through, it would be impossible to understand traffic reports even given a map. Increasing use of smartphones with live-traffic maps may render radio traffic reports obsolete some day in the not-to-distant future much as school cancellations are obsolete now. ________________________________ From: Bob Nelson To: Paul Hopfgarten Cc: Ari Alpert ; Boston Radio Group ; Chris Hall Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions (Radio related): When visiting Chicago in the 90s I heard radio traffic reports for "the Edens", "the Eisenhower" and "the Kennedy". It would be helpful to know, for outsiders, which interstates, etc. they meant! And if you're not from Pittsburgh you have no idea what the Parkway East or Parkway West is, etc. In our area we know of "the gas tanks" (off Central Artery) and "the jughandle light" (Rt 1, Peabody). There were plans to put I-95 right through what's called "the southwest corridor", connecting with the central artery, then going up through Revere/Saugus/Lynn (you can see the exit to nowhere on US 1 in Revere) as well as an I-695 that would have been an inner loop (another exit to? nowhere off of I-93). It was pressure from NIMBYs and BANANAs (not in my backyard, build absolutely nothing anywhere near anything) that killed off these projects. My Dad would say Gov Sargent had something to do with it, "yeah, 'put Sarge in charge' was his slogan". Route 128 pops up in Jonathan Richman's "Roadrunner" and the Dave Dinger Ford ad jingles, etc. And while I-95 is supposed by unbroken I think it "disappears" in favor of the N.J. Turnpike From pariho@mail.com Sat Apr 6 08:17:38 2013 From: pariho@mail.com (Pariho) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 08:17:38 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Yes, it's 93 South, 1 North and compass West from Braintree to Canton on the former 128 North....(Old Exit #s 69-63) The change on one was (I believe) more a case of Storrow Drive, where part of it on the Eastern end had the Rte. 1 designation and because the Trucks were following the signs for Rte. 1 but inexplicably couldn't read the CAUTION 9"6" Underpass signs, that's what made the feds have them put the Rte. 1 markers on the X-Way. Another FUN one is the Fresh Pond Pkwy on the Cambrigde-Arlington line where it's 2 WEST 3 NORTH 16 EAST all on the same stretch of road from the Circle to the Lights at the start of Rte. 2 West. Makes me wonder if there is anywhere in the USA where a numbered NORTH, SOUTH, WEST and EAST routes share a stretch of highway. Back to 128, anyone old enough to remember when 128 continued on the South Shore to Nantasket (hence the current 228 when they stopped 128 at Braintree in the early 1960s) I BARELY remember it and only because I did have an Aunt and Uncle in Hingham at the time. Paul Hopfgarten Epping NH -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Vahey Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 1:47 AM To: A Joseph Ross Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions The Feds demanded that Mass kill 128 when after I-95 was killed and Mass decided that 95 would use 128. They also demanded that US 1 be shifted to the SE Expressway instead of the Jamaicaway. We can debate forever what would have happened if the Inner Belt (695) was built - and Route 2 was finished to feed into it. Today after the Big Dig - driving downtown towards NH and Maine you have to deal with Rt. 1 ( unless you take 93 to 95 ) Providence is 10 miles longer than it would have been with SW corridor. Rte. 2 as an expressway ends at Fresh Pond. The late Joe Green from WBZ told me once that 95 should have been built in the SW corridor and 95 should have been built through Saugus and Lynn to the Tobin. He was glad 695 was scrapped. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 4/5/2013 10:15 AM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > > 128 will aways be called 128 to those of us that grew up in the 128 >> corridor. In fact, IIRC, the stretch from the 95/93 intersection in >> Canton >> to the 93/3 intersection in Braintree is CALLED 128 even though it is no >> longer formally recognized as such (I believe 128 from Canton to Peabody >> is >> still formally recognized as 95/128). >> > > And that caused me some confusion once, when I was coming back from > Brockton on Route 24. I wanted to go north on Route 128 to the Dedham > exit, but the sign said "93 South," and I ended up going the wrong way. I > don't know what was so wrong about continuing to designate it as Rt. 128 > along with whatever Interstate numbers they wanted to give it. The sign > might have been understandable. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > > From paulranderson@charter.net Sat Apr 6 09:30:29 2013 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 09:30:29 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <983828D1-6E75-4551-AF26-E6F0B6A7319E@charter.net> On Apr 6, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Pariho wrote: > Back to 128, anyone old enough to remember when 128 continued on the South Shore to Nantasket (hence the current 228 when they stopped 128 at Braintree in the early 1960s) I BARELY remember it and only because I did have an Aunt and Uncle in Hingham at the time. I'm surprised the traffic reporters don't still call that section "128" then. It makes as much sense as calling I-93 south of Boston "The Expressway" since there are no signs indicating it as such, or the part of I-93 from Canton to Braintree "128". Well, gotta go. I have to pay my phone bill to New England Telephone. Paul From francini@mac.com Sat Apr 6 11:23:34 2013 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 11:23:34 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: <1365246365.47115.YahooMailNeo@web162606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <1365246365.47115.YahooMailNeo@web162606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <555502CC-9BE9-4A85-BD6D-82B1358A54A3@mac.com> Not sure about whether smartphone live-traffic maps will render traffic reports obsolete. To use a smartphone map you have to take your eyes off the road to manipulate the map or just to read it. If you use a GPS device it needs a paid subscription to get traffic info. The traffic report may be old fashioned, but it's free, allows you to keep your eyes on the road, and lets you plan alternates in your head. Having just driven through the NY-NJ area, I used WCBS' traffic reports to find the easiest way around it. John On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:06, Ari Alpert wrote: > Lived in Chicagoland for 3 years during the 90's and thought it was much easier to understand radio traffic as an outsider. The names "Edens", "Eisenhower" (aka the "Ike"), and "Kennedy" actually appear on maps. Not sure I recall ever seeing "gas tanks" or "jughandle" in the Boston area or "South County" or "Big Blue Bug" in RI on any maps. I think east coast cities are a bit more provincial than other areas of the country (we like our landmarks and old names for things). For people just travelling through, it would be impossible to understand traffic reports even given a map. Increasing use of smartphones with live-traffic maps may render radio traffic reports obsolete some day in the not-to-distant future much as school cancellations are obsolete now. > > > ________________________________ > From: Bob Nelson > To: Paul Hopfgarten > Cc: Ari Alpert ; Boston Radio Group ; Chris Hall > Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 12:01 PM > Subject: Re: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions > > (Radio related): When visiting Chicago in the 90s I heard radio traffic > reports for "the Edens", "the Eisenhower" and "the Kennedy". It would be > helpful to know, for outsiders, which interstates, etc. they meant! And if > you're not from Pittsburgh you have no idea what the Parkway East or > Parkway West is, etc. In our area we know of "the gas tanks" (off Central > Artery) and "the jughandle light" (Rt 1, Peabody). > > There were plans to put I-95 right through what's called "the southwest > corridor", connecting with the central artery, then going up through > Revere/Saugus/Lynn > (you can see the exit to nowhere on US 1 in Revere) as well as an I-695 > that would have been an inner loop (another exit to nowhere off of I-93). > It was pressure from NIMBYs and BANANAs (not in my backyard, build > absolutely nothing anywhere near anything) that killed off these projects. > My Dad would say Gov Sargent had something to do with it, "yeah, 'put Sarge > in charge' was his slogan". > > Route 128 pops up in Jonathan Richman's "Roadrunner" and the Dave Dinger > Ford ad jingles, etc. And while I-95 is supposed by unbroken I think it > "disappears" in favor of the N.J. Turnpike From john@minutemancomm.com Sat Apr 6 14:48:47 2013 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 14:48:47 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: <555502CC-9BE9-4A85-BD6D-82B1358A54A3@mac.com> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <1365246365.47115.YahooMailNeo@web162606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <555502CC-9BE9-4A85-BD6D-82B1358A54A3@mac.com> Message-ID: You do realize the same traffic folks are providing the traffic data for your GPS and its being delivered by RDS and HD Radio data right? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2013, at 11:23 AM, John Francini wrote: > Not sure about whether smartphone live-traffic maps will render traffic reports obsolete. To use a smartphone map you have to take your eyes off the road to manipulate the map or just to read it. If you use a GPS device it needs a paid subscription to get traffic info. The traffic report may be old fashioned, but it's free, allows you to keep your eyes on the road, and lets you plan alternates in your head. > > Having just driven through the NY-NJ area, I used WCBS' traffic reports to find the easiest way around it. > > John > > On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:06, Ari Alpert wrote: > >> Lived in Chicagoland for 3 years during the 90's and thought it was much easier to understand radio traffic as an outsider. The names "Edens", "Eisenhower" (aka the "Ike"), and "Kennedy" actually appear on maps. Not sure I recall ever seeing "gas tanks" or "jughandle" in the Boston area or "South County" or "Big Blue Bug" in RI on any maps. I think east coast cities are a bit more provincial than other areas of the country (we like our landmarks and old names for things). For people just travelling through, it would be impossible to understand traffic reports even given a map. Increasing use of smartphones with live-traffic maps may render radio traffic reports obsolete some day in the not-to-distant future much as school cancellations are obsolete now. >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Bob Nelson >> To: Paul Hopfgarten >> Cc: Ari Alpert ; Boston Radio Group ; Chris Hall >> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 12:01 PM >> Subject: Re: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions >> >> (Radio related): When visiting Chicago in the 90s I heard radio traffic >> reports for "the Edens", "the Eisenhower" and "the Kennedy". It would be >> helpful to know, for outsiders, which interstates, etc. they meant! And if >> you're not from Pittsburgh you have no idea what the Parkway East or >> Parkway West is, etc. In our area we know of "the gas tanks" (off Central >> Artery) and "the jughandle light" (Rt 1, Peabody). >> >> There were plans to put I-95 right through what's called "the southwest >> corridor", connecting with the central artery, then going up through >> Revere/Saugus/Lynn >> (you can see the exit to nowhere on US 1 in Revere) as well as an I-695 >> that would have been an inner loop (another exit to nowhere off of I-93). >> It was pressure from NIMBYs and BANANAs (not in my backyard, build >> absolutely nothing anywhere near anything) that killed off these projects. >> My Dad would say Gov Sargent had something to do with it, "yeah, 'put Sarge >> in charge' was his slogan". >> >> Route 128 pops up in Jonathan Richman's "Roadrunner" and the Dave Dinger >> Ford ad jingles, etc. And while I-95 is supposed by unbroken I think it >> "disappears" in favor of the N.J. Turnpike > From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Apr 6 19:45:40 2013 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 19:45:40 -0400 Subject: GPS Traffic (was: Re: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions) In-Reply-To: <555502CC-9BE9-4A85-BD6D-82B1358A54A3@mac.com> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <1365246365.47115.YahooMailNeo@web162606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <555502CC-9BE9-4A85-BD6D-82B1358A54A3@mac.com> Message-ID: <98C8AB3D-1AF3-4710-9756-84CADB8A0876@mac.com> On Apr 6, 2013, at 11:23 AM, John Francini wrote: > If you use a GPS device it needs a paid subscription to get traffic info. Not true, at least for some GPS models. My Garmin 1390LMT includes lifetime traffic, which supposedly comes with ads, but I have not seen any ads yet. Since the data is sent by HD radio signals the range is limited, I get no traffic info beyond 495. From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 6 23:11:29 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:11:29 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <5160E3E1.3020307@attorneyross.com> On 4/6/2013 1:47 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The Feds demanded that Mass kill 128 when after I-95 was killed and > Mass decided that 95 would use 128. But Route 128 hasn't been killed. There are Route 128 signs, except for the southernmost part which is no longer considered Route 128. There just aren't very many signs. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 6 23:13:41 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:13:41 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <5160E465.3080206@attorneyross.com> On 4/6/2013 8:17 AM, Pariho wrote: > Back to 128, anyone old enough to remember when 128 continued on the > South Shore to Nantasket (hence the current 228 when they stopped 128 > at Braintree in the early 1960s) I BARELY remember it and only because > I did have an Aunt and Uncle in Hingham at the time. 228? Is that another route for which there are few, if any, signs? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Apr 7 03:28:28 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 03:28:28 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: <5160E465.3080206@attorneyross.com> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> <5160E465.3080206@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Mass DOT now has a proposal that will make traffic reporters cringe. They want to make Rte 3 to the Sagamore Bridge I-93 and the what was 128 from Braintree to Dedham I-193. From paulranderson@charter.net Sun Apr 7 08:52:47 2013 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 08:52:47 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> <5160E465.3080206@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: On Apr 7, 2013, at 3:28 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Mass DOT now has a proposal that will make traffic reporters cringe. > > They want to make Rte 3 to the Sagamore Bridge I-93 and the what was 128 > from Braintree to Dedham I-193. That proposal makes so much more sense than the current configuration where I-93 continues past Braintree out to Canton. How long would it take traffic reporters to adjust to this new reality? Couple of days? There would be so much publicity about such a change that the public would be way ahead of them. Then, to reference I-193, it would be clear exactly what piece of road they were speaking. Maybe, then the MA 3 name from Boston to Sagamore could finally be retired. I doubt if anyone follows 3 approaching Boston to its end at the BU bridge, where US 3 starts. Or just extend US 3 over the former MA 3 route to where it joins I-93. I literally cannot remember where it does that. Paul From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Apr 7 11:12:04 2013 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:12:04 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Subject: I-95 / Route 128 Message-ID: <13700358.1365347525063.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 13:55:43 -0400 >From: Bob DeMattia >To: "boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org" >Subject: I-95 / Route 128 > >The north end of I-695 would have connected onto I-93 >(remember those ramp "stubs" on the overpass ?). The >south end of I-695 would connect into the unusually >large (at the time) intersection of Mass Ave/I-93 by >the old steam plant. > >Before it was cancelled, some homes were torn down. >Melnea Cass boulevard is built where part of I-695 >was to be built. Melnea Cass Blvd. and the Mass Ave/I-93 intersection is the south end of what would have been I-695 (the Inner Belt). A small section of what was to be near the north end was turned into "Inner Belt Road" in Somerville, a bleak dead-end industrial and office park street off Washington St. next to the Holiday Inn just west of the Somerville/Charlestown line, a short distance west of Sullivan Station. I assume that from there, it would have joined an elevated ramp system to the 1-93 overpass. I recently saw that a community group is planning to try to have a bike path made along the old I-695 route from the dead-end of Inner Belt Road through East Cambridge and Cambridgeport to Boston. I guess it would join with the bike lane of the B.U. Bridge (already a horrendous mess every afternoon rush hour). EP From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Apr 7 19:24:24 2013 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 19:24:24 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> <5160E465.3080206@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <17C58464-5417-44D4-BF55-1B8DC080AE65@mac.com> On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Paul Anderson wrote: > > Maybe, then the MA 3 name from Boston to Sagamore could finally be retired. I doubt if anyone follows 3 approaching Boston to its end at the BU bridge, where US 3 starts. I was going to say that MA 3 ends at the NH state line, but then before I made a fool of myself (again?) I picked up a map and noticed that the part of route 3 north of Boston is US 3. But I wonder if anyone other than the map-makers and the nit-pickers here really cares. I think that the reason for wanting to make the road south of Braintree designated as an interstate is that MA would then get federal money to maintain the road. But of course the mile markers would need to be replaced on 93 all the way up to the NH state line, and that could cause some confusion for a while to emergency responders and radio-dispatched tow-truck operators. Notice how I managed to work radio into this post. :-) Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Apr 7 22:32:35 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 22:32:35 -0400 Subject: Route numbering (was: Re: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions) In-Reply-To: <17C58464-5417-44D4-BF55-1B8DC080AE65@mac.com> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> <5160E465.3080206@attorneyross.com> <17C58464-5417-44D4-BF55-1B8DC080AE65@mac.com> Message-ID: <20834.11331.753796.802654@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I was going to say that MA 3 ends at the NH state line, but then > before I made a fool of myself (again?) I picked up a map and > noticed that the part of route 3 north of Boston is US 3. But I > wonder if anyone other than the map-makers and the nit-pickers here > really cares. US 3 crosses the B.U. Bridge and ends (totally unsigned, of course) where it meets US 20 (Comm. Ave.). MA 3 stays north of the river and crosses either the Longfellow or Old Charles River Dam -- maybe both; I'd have to find a copy of the state route log to be sure. > I think that the reason for wanting to make the road south of > Braintree designated as an interstate is that MA would then get > federal money to maintain the road. That hasn't been the case in about 20 years, when the National Highway System program supplanted the previous highway funding programs. All roads designated as part of the NHS are entitled to federal funding, regardless of the shape of the shield. I'll allow one more round of this discussion but after that it really ought to move to ne.transportation instead. -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Apr 7 23:35:04 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 23:35:04 -0400 Subject: Route numbering (was: Re: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions) In-Reply-To: <586E4BFB-ABF5-42F8-8769-03C698D23AE3@mac.com> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <586E4BFB-ABF5-42F8-8769-03C698D23AE3@mac.com> Message-ID: <20834.15080.930850.914082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I 95 branches off in Delaware; the road becomes I 295 until after > the bridge over the Delaware River, where the NJ turnpike begins. I > 95 heads through Philadelphia and joins the NJ turnpike some 70 > miles after the border. > It used to be discontinuous, but I think the designations in NJ/PA > got fixed around the same time that 128 picked up the I 95 > designation. I-95 was planned to connect to run approximately along the route of US 206, through some extremely wealthy suburban communities (including Princeton). The people who lived there would not hear of it, so I-95 ended historically "left" the Turnpike just north of the Brunswicks; it picks up again on the north side of Trenton. Current plans are for I-95 to join the PA Turnpike near where they currently fail to intersect, and follow that road (currently I-276) across the Delaware River to the NJ Turnpike. The rest of the Delaware Expressway would then pick up an I-x95 designation. Pennsylvania has dragged its feet for the past decade in constructing the necessary interchange. -GAWollman From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Apr 9 02:44:27 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 02:44:27 -0400 Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? Message-ID: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2013/04/08/holy-cow-two-of-the-big-four-tv-networks-are-considering-going-off-the-air/ Aereo is pretty much what cable TV was in the 60's and 70's. In NY it is in effect an online digital tuner but it offers a complete scan that most can not get OTA - there are almost always a signal missed. They plan to launch in Boston in a weeks. The reality is the broadcast networks in today's cable environment would be better off just selling a pure network feed to cable and satellite operators and charge a monthly fee. ABC is almost an afterthought in the Disney empire when compared to ESPN. Cable and satellite are at risk as well as the computer savvy under 30 crowd can find virtually any programming feed online at little or no cost.Take NESN for example. It is very easy to find any Red Sox or Bruins game from pirate sites in Europe and Russia that are malware and virus free and in some cases returns a picture faster than a Comcast digital box. I just don't like where we are headed. From kenwvt@gmail.com Tue Apr 9 07:31:31 2013 From: kenwvt@gmail.com (Ken VanTassell) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 07:31:31 -0400 Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think this is an idle threat by the networks. What is so bad about aereo from the broadcasters perspective ? You can only see the local stations in the market you happen to be in, and the commercials are intact. That means more eyeballs on the ads. True they don't get retransmission fees, but that was not part of the original cable deals either. I myself am looking forward to Aereo coming to Boston this summer. The Hopper on the other hand advertises with great glee how you can skip the commercials, this is more troublesome. -Ken On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2013/04/08/holy-cow-two-of-the-big-four-tv-networks-are-considering-going-off-the-air/ > > > Aereo is pretty much what cable TV was in the 60's and 70's. In NY it is in > effect an online digital tuner but it offers a complete scan that most can > not get OTA - there are almost always a signal missed. > They plan to launch in Boston in a weeks. > > The reality is the broadcast networks in today's cable environment would be > better off just selling a pure network feed to cable and satellite > operators and charge a monthly fee. ABC is almost an afterthought in the > Disney empire when compared to ESPN. > > Cable and satellite are at risk as well as the computer savvy under 30 > crowd can find virtually any programming feed online at little or no > cost.Take NESN for example. It is very easy to find any Red Sox or Bruins > game from pirate sites in Europe and Russia that are malware and virus free > and in some cases returns a picture faster than a Comcast digital box. > > I just don't like where we are headed. > From sids1045@aol.com Tue Apr 9 07:41:35 2013 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 07:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D0032E52DD45DF-18C-19EED@webmail-vd013.sysops.aol.com> "What is so bad about aereofrom the broadcasters perspective ?" The loss of billions of dollars in cable and satellite retransmission fees. The networks' business model now depends on that money. If everyone suddenly turned the clock back 50 years, to the no-cable era, all that money goes away, and that's exactly what Aereo is capable of. From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Apr 9 14:02:13 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 18:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn Message-ID: <511756405.282449.1365530533913.JavaMail.app@ela4-app0133.prod> LinkedIn ------------ BostonRadio, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Dan Dan Strassberg Independent Publishing Professional Greater Boston Area Confirm that you know Dan Strassberg: https://www.linkedin.com/e/8kjphc-hfbdmf86-1w/isd/12326275594/dqEy9TPU/?hs=false&tok=25UkzyzcSWhlI1 -- You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. 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Click to unsubscribe: http://www.linkedin.com/e/8kjphc-hfbdqksj-5p/dQ8_UGo4AVU87JG_IbpNhgVf0ppFSFAcoLpDeNnf51mOUFwlxRUzT8i/goo/boston-radio-interest%40bostonradio%2Eorg/20061/I4084178768_1/?hs=false&tok=2Bh2uNtAOZhlI1 (c) 2012 LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA. From ssmyth@psualum.com Tue Apr 9 18:05:44 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 15:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Jon Rish quits Sox broadcasts Message-ID: <1365545144.28126.YahooMailNeo@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Entercom asked him to take a 30 percent pay cut, according to reports. http://www.boston.com/sports/touching_all_the_bases/2013/04/red_sox_voicehost_jon_rish_dep.html I liked his work. How much could he have been making -- maybe $100k, if that? The penny pinching, it won't stop. From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Apr 10 00:13:43 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:13:43 -0400 Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5164E6F7.7050807@attorneyross.com> On 4/9/2013 7:31 AM, Ken VanTassell wrote: > I think this is an idle threat by the networks. What is so bad about aereo > from the broadcasters perspective ? You can only see the local stations in > the market you happen to be in, and the commercials are intact. That means > more eyeballs on the ads. True they don't get retransmission fees, but that > was not part of the original cable deals either. I myself am looking > forward to Aereo coming to Boston this summer. The Hopper on the other hand > advertises with great glee how you can skip the commercials, this is more > troublesome. And WBZ won't be able to reach 30-something states. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Apr 10 02:23:12 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 02:23:12 -0400 Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? In-Reply-To: <5164E6F7.7050807@attorneyross.com> References: <5164E6F7.7050807@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: WBZ used to claim 38 states - pretty much the entire Eastern time zone and most of the Central. Today I would put the number closer to 30. What made WBZ special was the directional beaming west - the skywave just killed KDKA and WHO in the Great Lakes region and Ontario and that was mirrored by where Glick's calls came from, 1030 was also very strong in the eastern Carolinas and the eastern coast of Florida. I can remember listening to Bob Raleigh in Ft. Lauderdale. However you could not get the station on the Gulf Coast. The NY stations and the Chicago stations tended to cancel each other out in much of the Northeast and my memory is that in Boston WCFL was the strongest Chicago signal ( it was directional east ) and WLS, WMAQ and WBBM would fight with WCBS, WNBC and WABC. Growing up in Cambridge the most reliable out of market signals were WKBW (1520), WPTR (1540) and WBAL (1090). The NYC stations were usually solid by some nights because of weather they were mush. Most of us have fond memories of radio and TV from 40-50 years ago...I ponder what it will be like 40 years from now when most of us will be watching from above. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:13 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > > And WBZ won't be able to reach 30-something states. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > > From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Apr 10 02:50:34 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 02:50:34 -0400 Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? In-Reply-To: References: <5164E6F7.7050807@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <20837.3002.82366.236369@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Most of us have fond memories of radio and TV from 40-50 years ago...I > ponder what it will be like 40 years from now when most of us will be > watching from above. *Some* of us are just barely 40 years old and have no memories of radio and TV from that long ago. My earliest radio memory is "Millard the Mallard's Household Hints" on W*R*VA, for what it's worth. My mother even had the book they gave away to promote it. And my earliest TV memory is watching "Sesame Street" on WETA (although I had no idea that's what it was at the time). Next after that is the closing ceremonies of the 1980 Winter Olympics on WEZF-TV on the five-inch Sears black-and-white TV in my parents' bedroom. The following August we moved to our new house on the mountain and couldn't get 22, 33, or 57 any more. (But we could get WNPI 18 out of Watertown, not to mention all of Montreal.) We got a VCR in 1984, a Fisher-branded Sanyo with set-screw analog tuning and two-track stereo audio (this was before "VHS HiFi" helical-scan audio). Most people under 40 have never watched, let alone owned, a black-and-white TV. -GAWollman From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Apr 10 03:22:47 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 03:22:47 -0400 Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? In-Reply-To: <20837.3002.82366.236369@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <5164E6F7.7050807@attorneyross.com> <20837.3002.82366.236369@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: Touche Garrett - I should have said many not most On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:50 AM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > *Some* of us are just barely 40 years old and have no memories of > radio and TV from that long ago. > > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Apr 10 08:55:04 2013 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 07:55:04 -0500 Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? In-Reply-To: <20837.3002.82366.236369@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <5164E6F7.7050807@attorneyross.com> <20837.3002.82366.236369@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: Maybe I'm of the minority, different... when I was younger, I had a black and white antenna tv in my bedroom. I can't tell you how much tin foil I went through and how many butter knives I bent unscrewing or screwing in new antennas. Paul On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > Most of us have fond memories of radio and TV from 40-50 years ago...I > > ponder what it will be like 40 years from now when most of us will be > > watching from above. > > > > Most people under 40 have never watched, let alone owned, a > black-and-white TV. > > -GAWollman > From pariho@mail.com Wed Apr 10 11:47:05 2013 From: pariho@mail.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:47:05 -0400 Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? Message-ID: <20130410154705.126050@gmx.com> I also had a B&W TV (panasonic 9") and the good part is that living in Randolph MA back then, I could get WJAR and WPRI in better than WBZ and WCVB.....UHF was always tough, a lot of multipath on 38 and 56 (27 usually actually came in well). WTEV (6) was always difficult....guess Tiverton RI was JUST far enough away, whereas the Rehobeth-Randoph pathway was 'clean and green". (And 44 was usually crap, even in Randolph)...WMUR 9 was snow-filled adventure, but if both WCVB and WTEV (or WPRI...I forget which year they swapped affiliations...the first time) pre-empted..that's what I had to watch for ABC shows... And the ocassional skip (WCSH on 6 the most common) and getting WCBS (albeith snow filled) when WGBH signed off back then. I did the butter knife thing to0....and the pliers to change the VHF channet one the knob was broken (That got a serious workout) -Paul H ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. Sent: 04/10/13 08:55 AM Subject: Re: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? Maybe I'm of the minority, different... when I was younger, I had a black and white antenna tv in my bedroom. I can't tell you how much tin foil I went through and how many butter knives I bent unscrewing or screwing in new antennas. Paul On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > Most of us have fond memories of radio and TV from 40-50 years ago...I > > ponder what it will be like 40 years from now when most of us will be > > watching from above. > > > > Most people under 40 have never watched, let alone owned, a > black-and-white TV. > > -GAWollman > From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Apr 10 23:09:48 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:09:48 -0400 Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? In-Reply-To: References: <5164E6F7.7050807@attorneyross.com> <20837.3002.82366.236369@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <20838.10620.553799.316503@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Maybe I'm of the minority, different... when I was younger, I had a black > and white antenna tv in my bedroom. More than half of the people under 40 were born after Bill Clinton was elected President. -GAWollman From markwa1ion@aol.com Wed Apr 10 23:28:01 2013 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (Mark Connelly) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:28:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WPLM-1390 AM power reduced? Message-ID: <8D0047BB4BA1F30-2890-4080E@webmail-vd001.sysops.aol.com> I have noticed that WPLM-1390 Plymouth, MA is substantially weaker than what the V-Soft predictor would indicate and also much weaker than I remember them being not too long ago. Here in South Yarmouth, WPLM used to be at least as strong as WLYN (1360) daytime though never stronger than WBZ as V-Soft's listing would indicate. It must be at least 10 dB weaker than WLYN now. Even WJDA-1300 and WMKI-1260 (not even listed by V-Soft at >= 0.5 mV/m) are as good or stronger. Does anyone know what's going on at 'PLM? It's totally useless at night as WEGP Presque Isle, ME owns 1390 then. Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA V-Soft listing, zip code 02664 - stations of 0.5 mV/m or greater Field (mV/m) Call Sign Principal City State Frequency (kHz) 17.79 WBUR-N WEST YARMOUTH MA 1240 17.79 WBUR WEST YARMOUTH MA 1240 4.39 WMVX BEVERLY MA 1570 3.88 WRKO-N BOSTON MA 680 3.88 WRKO BOSTON MA 680 2.96 WPLM PLYMOUTH MA 1390 2.78 WPLM-N PLYMOUTH MA 1390 2.00 WBZ-N BOSTON MA 1030 2.00 WBZ BOSTON MA 1030 1.90 WROL BOSTON MA 950 1.60 WEZE-N BOSTON MA 590 1.60 WEZE BOSTON MA 590 1.35 WFPB ORLEANS MA 1170 1.30 WEEI BOSTON MA 850 1.27 WEEI-N BOSTON MA 850 1.20 WGAN-N PORTLAND ME 560 1.00 WFAN-N NEW YORK NY 660 1.00 WFAN NEW YORK NY 660 0.95 WZAN PORTLAND ME 970 0.95 WLYN LYNN MA 1360 0.93 WZAN-N PORTLAND ME 970 0.90 WOR-N NEW YORK NY 710 0.90 WOR NEW YORK NY 710 0.85 WPKX-N ROCHESTER NH 930 0.79 WESX-N NAHANT MA 1230 0.79 WESX NAHANT MA 1230 0.76 WEPN-N NEW YORK NY 1050 0.76 WEPN NEW YORK NY 1050 0.74 WCBS-N NEW YORK NY 880 0.74 WCBS NEW YORK NY 880 0.71 WUFC-N BOSTON MA 1510 0.71 WTSN-N DOVER NH 1270 0.66 WGAN PORTLAND ME 560 0.66 WAMG DEDHAM MA 890 0.64 WNNW LAWRENCE MA 800 0.62 WMYF-N PORTSMOUTH NH 1380 0.61 WQOM NATICK MA 1060 0.52 WXKS-N NEWTON MA 1200 0.51 0.51 WMYF PORTSMOUTH NH 1380 0.50 WUFC BOSTON MA 1510 From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Apr 11 00:45:30 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 00:45:30 -0400 Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? In-Reply-To: <20130410154705.126050@gmx.com> References: <20130410154705.126050@gmx.com> Message-ID: <51663FEA.3000704@attorneyross.com> On 4/10/2013 11:47 AM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > And the ocassional skip (WCSH on 6 the most common) and getting WCBS (albeith snow filled) when WGBH signed off back then. When my family moved to Bedford, MA in May 1957, we discovered that we could sometimes get WCSH 6 with a faint, snowey signal. Once that summer we were surprised to find WCSH with a local-quality signal. But after WHDH-TV 5 came on in November, we couldn't get it any more. A few years later I discovered that I could sometimes hear WCSH on my FM radio at the far left side of the dial. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From kenwvt@gmail.com Sat Apr 13 19:26:31 2013 From: kenwvt@gmail.com (Ken VanTassell) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 16:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Pete Sheppard quits on air Message-ID: <1365895589885.0cda1c4d@Nodemailer> Boston.com news twitter account just posted that Pete Sheppard quit WEEI on air. @BostonDotCom: Pete Shepherd just quit WEEI on air, saying he can't in good conscience stay amidst all the cuts. Took a shot at ownership on his way out. ? Sent from Mailbox for iPhone From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Apr 13 19:33:03 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 19:33:03 -0400 Subject: Pete Sheppard quits on air In-Reply-To: <1365895589885.0cda1c4d@Nodemailer> References: <1365895589885.0cda1c4d@Nodemailer> Message-ID: http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/2013/04/breaking-pete-sheppard-quits-weei-on-the-air I wonder if WEEI.com will post the audio. He went after Jeff Brown on the air. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Ken VanTassell wrote: > Boston.com news twitter account just posted that Pete Sheppard quit WEEI > on air. > > > @BostonDotCom: Pete Shepherd just quit WEEI on air, saying he can't in > good conscience stay amidst all the cuts. Took a shot at ownership on his > way out. > ? > Sent from Mailbox for iPhone > From ssmyth@psualum.com Sat Apr 13 19:59:44 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (ssmyth@psualum.com) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 16:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Pete Sheppard quits on air Message-ID: <1365897584.83551.iosMobile@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Saw someone tweet this while waiting to get on my flight back. Didn't see anyone else tweet it, so wasn't sure what to think. Pete never was a favorite of mine but I do admire him going out on his terms.

I'm anxious to see the talk on radiodiscussions.

Sent from my iPhone From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Apr 14 08:37:59 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:37:59 -0400 Subject: Pete Sheppard quits on air In-Reply-To: <1365897584.83551.iosMobile@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1365897584.83551.iosMobile@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's embarrassing to WEEI so I don't know if they'd post the audio, unless maybe they figure any publicity is good publicity (but how can it be?). This a day after the company CEO came into town for a morale boosting meeting. Some wonder if Ordway and Sheppard could do a weekend gig at Sports Hub or something perhaps sponsored by Giant Glass. It has been said Sheppard's name disappeared from the WEEI site, of course, and I wonder if mention will be made on air soon...or will any talk of it be forbidden by management. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:59 PM, wrote: > Saw someone tweet this while waiting to get on my flight back. Didn't see > anyone else tweet it, so wasn't sure what to think. Pete never was a > favorite of mine but I do admire him going out on his terms.

I'm > anxious to see the talk on radiodiscussions.

Sent from my iPhone > From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Sun Apr 14 18:26:12 2013 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? In-Reply-To: <51663FEA.3000704@attorneyross.com> References: <20130410154705.126050@gmx.com> <51663FEA.3000704@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <1365978372.44099.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Back in the day, late 60's and early 70's, We had quite an assortment of TV stations to choose from in Randolph, MA.? All of the Boston VHF's (WGBH/2, WBZ/4, WCVB/5 and WNAC/7) were pretty strong, as were the Providence stations (WJAR/10 and WPRI/12) except 6 (WTEV/New Bedford).? Channel 6 had a lousy signal from Tiverton, RI.? You would always see some form of co-channel interference from WCSH/6 in Portland, ME (sometimes more than others.? The Boston UHF's except for 44 were pretty strong as well.? Channel 44, while it had a pretty good signal, was always weaker than 38 or 56.? Channel 27 in Worcester always had multipath. WGBH/2 used to sign-off after 11:00 PM.? There was always some semblance of a signal from WCBS/2 in New York.? On many nights when the trops kicked in, I was actually able to watch the "Late Show" from WCBS/2.? WCBS-TV was one of the early 24/7 stations with movies all night long. ?? WMUR/9 in Manchester, NH was there as well but always had a snowy picture (75 miles away).? WENH/11 in Durham, NH was also pretty strong, considering the 80+ mile trip.? Of course, that was then (analog).... this is now (digital).? I sure miss the E-skips on VHF-lo!? WSB/2 Atlanta, WTHS/WPBT 2 in Miami and WESH/2 in Daytona were frequent visitors when WGBH was off during the day (during the summer months).? Actually got perfect color from WSB during a strong skip back in the 70's.? Got a nice QSL letter from them as well!!! :) ? Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: A Joseph Ross To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:45 AM Subject: Re: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? On 4/10/2013 11:47 AM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > And the ocassional skip (WCSH on 6 the most common) and getting WCBS (albeith snow filled) when WGBH signed off back then. When my family moved to Bedford, MA in May 1957, we discovered that we could sometimes get WCSH 6 with a faint, snowey signal.? Once that summer we were surprised to find WCSH with a local-quality signal.? But after WHDH-TV 5 came on in November, we couldn't get it any more. A few years later I discovered that I could sometimes hear WCSH on my FM radio at the far left side of the dial. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From dave@skywaves.net Sun Apr 14 20:54:43 2013 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 20:54:43 -0400 Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? In-Reply-To: <1365978372.44099.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <20130410154705.126050@gmx.com> <51663FEA.3000704@attorneyross.com> <1365978372.44099.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000301ce3973$d1946a30$74bd3e90$@skywaves.net> In the 1970s, I lived in Sea Bright on the NJ Shore, that town that seems to be the poster child for NJ storm damage. The WTC was under construction, and WCBS-TV was broadcasting from Empire. I could see both buildings from the roof of my two-story apartment building, and my antenna was aimed their way. WCBS-TV was often impaired by co-channel interference. My initial guess when I first saw the crossbars was that the interference was coming from Boston or Baltimore; but on most occasions when I could identify the interfering signal, it was coming all the way up the coast from Florida! -d -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Peter Q. George Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 6:26 PM To: A Joseph Ross; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? Back in the day, late 60's and early 70's, We had quite an assortment of TV stations to choose from in Randolph, MA.? All of the Boston VHF's (WGBH/2, WBZ/4, WCVB/5 and WNAC/7) were pretty strong, as were the Providence stations (WJAR/10 and WPRI/12) except 6 (WTEV/New Bedford).? Channel 6 had a lousy signal from Tiverton, RI.? You would always see some form of co-channel interference from WCSH/6 in Portland, ME (sometimes more than others.? The Boston UHF's except for 44 were pretty strong as well.? Channel 44, while it had a pretty good signal, was always weaker than 38 or 56.? Channel 27 in Worcester always had multipath. WGBH/2 used to sign-off after 11:00 PM.? There was always some semblance of a signal from WCBS/2 in New York.? On many nights when the trops kicked in, I was actually able to watch the "Late Show" from WCBS/2.? WCBS-TV was one of the early 24/7 stations with movies all night long. ?? WMUR/9 in Manchester, NH was there as well but always had a snowy picture (75 miles away).? WENH/11 in Durham, NH was also pretty strong, considering the 80+ mile trip.? Of course, that was then (analog).... this is now (digital).? I sure miss the E-skips on VHF-lo!? WSB/2 Atlanta, WTHS/WPBT 2 in Miami and WESH/2 in Daytona were frequent visitors when WGBH was off during the day (during the summer months).? Actually got perfect color from WSB during a strong skip back in the 70's.? Got a nice QSL letter from them as well!!! :) ? Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: A Joseph Ross To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:45 AM Subject: Re: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? On 4/10/2013 11:47 AM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > And the ocassional skip (WCSH on 6 the most common) and getting WCBS (albeith snow filled) when WGBH signed off back then. When my family moved to Bedford, MA in May 1957, we discovered that we could sometimes get WCSH 6 with a faint, snowey signal.? Once that summer we were surprised to find WCSH with a local-quality signal.? But after WHDH-TV 5 came on in November, we couldn't get it any more. A few years later I discovered that I could sometimes hear WCSH on my FM radio at the far left side of the dial. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From francini@mac.com Sun Apr 14 22:12:41 2013 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 22:12:41 -0400 Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? In-Reply-To: <1365978372.44099.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <20130410154705.126050@gmx.com> <51663FEA.3000704@attorneyross.com> <1365978372.44099.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F3BF20F-ADF6-4073-91FB-530FFBACD117@mac.com> I grew up in Randolph as well! Same time period too. Exact same TV situation as you described. Of course, back then, most tv stations signed off late at night. Usually they played some variant of the "Star-Spangled Banner" as their sign-off song. Except Channel 2. They played Andrew Arvin's "Rondo a Go-Go" while talking about the WGBH educational foundation and the various stations they operated. I'd make a point of catching their sign-off many a night. The song is quite the ear worm. YouTube has both the bare song and at least one copy of the sign-on/sign-off on line: Bare song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agk8T0lEOhY WGBH sign-on/off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMaZnEnFAyM John Francini Sent from my iPad On Apr 14, 2013, at 18:26, "Peter Q. George" wrote: > Back in the day, late 60's and early 70's, We had quite an assortment of TV stations to choose from in Randolph, MA. All of the Boston VHF's (WGBH/2, WBZ/4, WCVB/5 and WNAC/7) were pretty strong, as were the Providence stations (WJAR/10 and WPRI/12) except 6 (WTEV/New Bedford). Channel 6 had a lousy signal from Tiverton, RI. You would always see some form of co-channel interference from WCSH/6 in Portland, ME (sometimes more than others. The Boston UHF's except for 44 were pretty strong as well. Channel 44, while it had a pretty good signal, was always weaker than 38 or 56. Channel 27 in Worcester always had multipath. > > WGBH/2 used to sign-off after 11:00 PM. There was always some semblance of a signal from WCBS/2 in New York. On many nights when the trops kicked in, I was actually able to watch the "Late Show" from WCBS/2. WCBS-TV was one of the early 24/7 stations with movies all night long. > > WMUR/9 in Manchester, NH was there as well but always had a snowy picture (75 miles away). WENH/11 in Durham, NH was also pretty strong, considering the 80+ mile trip. Of course, that was then (analog).... this is now (digital). I sure miss the E-skips on VHF-lo! WSB/2 Atlanta, WTHS/WPBT 2 in Miami and WESH/2 in Daytona were frequent visitors when WGBH was off during the day (during the summer months). Actually got perfect color from WSB during a strong skip back in the 70's. Got a nice QSL letter from them as well!!! :) > > > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) > Whitman, Massachusetts > radiojunkie3@yahoo.com > *********************************************************** > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: A Joseph Ross > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:45 AM > Subject: Re: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? > > On 4/10/2013 11:47 AM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > >> And the ocassional skip (WCSH on 6 the most common) and getting WCBS (albeith snow filled) when WGBH signed off back then. > > When my family moved to Bedford, MA in May 1957, we discovered that we could sometimes get WCSH 6 with a faint, snowey signal. Once that summer we were surprised to find WCSH with a local-quality signal. But after WHDH-TV 5 came on in November, we couldn't get it any more. > > A few years later I discovered that I could sometimes hear WCSH on my FM radio at the far left side of the dial. > > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com > From ssmyth@psualum.com Sun Apr 14 23:27:02 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 20:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? In-Reply-To: <4F3BF20F-ADF6-4073-91FB-530FFBACD117@mac.com> References: <20130410154705.126050@gmx.com> <51663FEA.3000704@attorneyross.com> <1365978372.44099.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4F3BF20F-ADF6-4073-91FB-530FFBACD117@mac.com> Message-ID: <1365996422.74652.YahooMailNeo@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> John Francini wrote: > Of course, back then, most tv stations signed off late at night. Usually they > played some variant of the "Star-Spangled Banner" as their sign-off > song. Do any stations still play the anthem? I think Channels 4 and 5 used to as of about 15 years ago in the 4-4:30 range, but who knows now with the newscasts starting that early... From markwats@comcast.net Mon Apr 15 17:26:19 2013 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:26:19 -0400 Subject: Coverage Of Boston Marathon Explosion Message-ID: Radio coverage of the Boston Marathon explosion incident (as of 3:45PM when I was on my way home) found that all the CBS owned FM's were simulcasting WBZ radio's coverage. WBUR was simulcasting WCVB's coverage. Lowell's WCAP was simulcasting WCVB along with breaking for local coverage, including live phone interviews with a couple of Lowell area residents who were near the scene. Howie Carr was hosting live coverage on WRKO. On the TV side, WBZ, WCVB, WFXT, WHDH, WMUR and NECN in wall to wall mode. My thoughts and prayers to all affected by this horrible incident. Mark Watson From ssmyth@psualum.com Mon Apr 15 21:10:44 2013 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Coverage Of Boston Marathon Explosion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1366074644.33407.YahooMailNeo@web142703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Mark wrote: > Radio coverage of the Boston Marathon explosion incident (as of 3:45PM when I > was on my way home) found that all the CBS owned FM's were simulcasting WBZ > radio's coverage. WBUR was simulcasting WCVB's coverage. Lowell's > WCAP was simulcasting WCVB along with breaking for local coverage, including > live phone interviews with a couple of Lowell area residents who were near the > scene. Howie Carr was hosting live coverage on WRKO. > > On the TV side, WBZ, WCVB, WFXT, WHDH, WMUR and NECN in wall to wall mode. > > My thoughts and prayers to all affected by this horrible incident. As of 8ish, 1030 was still // on all the FMs, with 98.5 occasionally breaking in on its own to cover the ID, etc. From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Apr 15 21:44:25 2013 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 21:44:25 -0400 Subject: Coverage Of Boston Marathon Explosion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5A134709-25F4-41C5-83B6-720B7A7C26E2@mac.com> On Apr 15, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Mark Watson wrote: > Radio coverage of the Boston Marathon explosion incident (as of 3:45PM when I was on my way home) found that all the CBS owned FM's were simulcasting WBZ radio's coverage. WBUR was simulcasting WCVB's coverage. Lowell's WCAP was simulcasting WCVB along with breaking for local coverage, including live phone interviews with a couple of Lowell area residents who were near the scene. Howie Carr was hosting live coverage on WRKO. > > On the TV side, WBZ, WCVB, WFXT, WHDH, WMUR and NECN in wall to wall mode. > > My thoughts and prayers to all affected by this horrible incident. I was unaware that this happened until shortly before 8PM. I was sleeping most of the day since I had worked the overnight shift, then did some yard work when I got up. I was listening to WUMB on-and-off in the late afternoon and evening, I did hear one of their announcers mention that it was marathon day, but there was no mention that anything unusual had happened. Only when I got in the car shortly before 8 to do some errands I tuned to WBZ (AM) since I had not heard any news all day. I came in in the middle of them talking about something that happened, but since I came in on this in the middle I did not really find out what happened until the did the headlines at 8. Eventually as I was going store-to-store I got so fed up with Dan Rea and his stupidity (he was speculating on why this happened based on the fact that other similar things had happened in the month of April in past years) that I went to Sirius to listen to some music figuring that I would get more of the details later as they came out. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From chris2526@comcast.net Tue Apr 16 01:37:55 2013 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:37:55 -0400 Subject: News anchor hand theatrics Message-ID: <8236000FA42C4223BA6F39B6FAB4795F@chrisHP> When did news anchors especially those standing start using all the ridiculous hand gestures, they have reached the point of absurdity and are starting to mimic sign language for the deaf. Every time I see this I can imagine viewers wishing they were handcuffed behind their backs. Also who was the shrill sounding harpy Channel 7 had reporting from Boylston St Monday afternoon, two minutes of her and its off to Channel 4 or 5 or 25.....or anything else....like very intrusive nails on a blackboard. From TVNETDUDE@aol.com Tue Apr 16 10:10:47 2013 From: TVNETDUDE@aol.com (TVNETDUDE@aol.com) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Could this be the end of broadcasting as we know it? Message-ID: When I first opened this digest I thought that this topic was on an entirely different matter. I though that it was in reference to TV stations, and now two TV networks, talk about removing their signals from the air over Aereo's court wins. They would sell off their RF bandwidth and put their station on cable and satellite making wireless carriers and the CEA quite happy. Now that would be the end of broadcasting as we know it. Mike From chris2526@comcast.net Tue Apr 16 23:57:08 2013 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:57:08 -0400 Subject: All sports radio Message-ID: <668607C43A1B4961B0F4465904071846@chrisHP> As I speculated last year Sports Radio would have a saturation point and it while it will remain a very viable format for maybe one major outlet that has the Patriots and Red Sox, sports numbers in markets across the board are starting to tank. Just when CBS and NBC have introduced new radio sports networks they may be behind the curve on this one as the pie is being sliced too thin for too many players. Is the current state of mainstream talk sports radios future......everything it seems has a shelf life. The format may just get too expensive for multiple player even in major markets. Even TV sports are getting so expensive it is starting to become a drag on cable and satellite systems where they are now saying non sports viewers will not pay more money to subsidize sports fans and operators such as Time Warner and Cablevision want it broken up. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Apr 18 12:15:58 2013 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 12:15:58 -0400 Subject: WUFC 1510 hires Pete Sheppard Message-ID: Former WEEI host Pete Sheppard will be on WUFC AM 1510 starting next Monday, 3-6 pm weekdays. He is on the air right now with Boston Diehards and said he feels sorry for his friends at "the other place", WEEI (which he had quit) and feels very positively about his new employer. Of course. From karenmctrotsky@gmail.com Sat Apr 6 16:22:24 2013 From: karenmctrotsky@gmail.com (Karen McTrotsky) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 16:22:24 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions Message-ID: The problem with naming conventions is they are often mouthed by people who haven't the slightest idea what they are talking about. Traffic reports on Boston roads are simply awful; many of the early morning reports simply use the same script every day. It's worse when people do traffic reports for areas they have never visited, such as the traffic reports done from Boston for WCAP before the station went off the air recently. The good part of naming conventions is that it's a pretty succinct way of naming landmarks where traffic issues often develop. "Jughandle" is a lot more succinct than "Route 1 north turnaround in Peabody near Santarpios north of Dearborn Ave" And check your history, It wasn't NIMBY's who blocked the construction of I-695, nor was it people opposed to building anything. It was people with a concept of urban planning which was more advanced than the Moses/ Callahan philosophy of roads, roads and more roads. Sargent stopped it and the money was spent on mass transit, which kept Boston, Cambridge and Somerville liveable Forwarded message ---------- From: Bob Nelson To: Paul Hopfgarten Cc: Ari Alpert , Boston Radio Group , Chris Hall Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:01:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions (Radio related): When visiting Chicago in the 90s I heard radio traffic reports for "the Edens", "the Eisenhower" and "the Kennedy". It would be helpful to know, for outsiders, which interstates, etc. they meant! And if you're not from Pittsburgh you have no idea what the Parkway East or Parkway West is, etc. In our area we know of "the gas tanks" (off Central Artery) and "the jughandle light" (Rt 1, Peabody). There were plans to put I-95 right through what's called "the southwest corridor", connecting with the central artery, then going up through Revere/Saugus/Lynn (you can see the exit to nowhere on US 1 in Revere) as well as an I-695 that would have been an inner loop (another exit to nowhere off of I-93). It was pressure from NIMBYs and BANANAs (not in my backyard, build absolutely nothing anywhere near anything) that killed off these projects. My Dad would say Gov Sargent had something to do with it, "yeah, 'put Sarge in charge' was his slogan". Route 128 pops up in Jonathan Richman's "Roadrunner" and the Dave Dinger Ford ad jingles, etc. And while I-95 is supposed by unbroken I think it "disappears" in favor of the N.J. Turnpike From lglavin@mail.com Fri Apr 5 13:29:30 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:29:30 -0400 Subject: URI shooting scare Message-ID: <20130405172930.101230@gmx.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: Shawn Mamros >Sent: 04/05/13 08:26 AM >To: Chris Hall >Subject: Re: URI shooting scare >I have to shake my head in disbelief, both WCVB-TV and WBZ-TV reported >and are still reporting URI as being in Kingston rather than >Kingstown, RI. Its astounding that two major market TV stations would >misidentify and continue to misidentify a community 55-60 miles from >Boston. >I would think most people would quickly realize that the University >of Rhode Island isn't in Kingston, Massachusetts. >Saying Kingston, Rhode Island seems redundant given the context. >-Shawn During the noon newscast on WBZ-AM today, Friday 03/05, there was a story about a controversy involving the Police Chief of New London, NH. But the headliner ATOH just said "Police Chief in New London", the cutaway by the anchor to the reporter just said "Police Chief in New London". Then the reporter announced that he was reporting for some reason from Concord, NH. If you asked a hundred people from the area where New London is, a high percentage would answer, Connecticut, you know the sumarine base near there (actually in Groton, which could lead to more confusion). That's why I'm glad I live in the ONLY METHUEN IN THE WORLD. If you enter "Methuen" at weather.com. it defaults to Methuen, MA USA and nowhere else. From hopfgarten@mail.com Sat Apr 6 12:00:23 2013 From: hopfgarten@mail.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 12:00:23 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: <983828D1-6E75-4551-AF26-E6F0B6A7319E@charter.net> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> <983828D1-6E75-4551-AF26-E6F0B6A7319E@charter.net> Message-ID: <688578078889409898CA965859D4D548@PaulPC> We're the one for you New England, New England Telephone......... How many cookies did ANdrew eat....ANdrew 8-8000! -Paul H -----Original Message----- From: Paul Anderson Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 9:30 AM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Group Subject: Re: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions On Apr 6, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Pariho wrote: > Back to 128, anyone old enough to remember when 128 continued on the South > Shore to Nantasket (hence the current 228 when they stopped 128 at > Braintree in the early 1960s) I BARELY remember it and only because I did > have an Aunt and Uncle in Hingham at the time. I'm surprised the traffic reporters don't still call that section "128" then. It makes as much sense as calling I-93 south of Boston "The Expressway" since there are no signs indicating it as such, or the part of I-93 from Canton to Braintree "128". Well, gotta go. I have to pay my phone bill to New England Telephone. Paul From hopfgarten@mail.com Sun Apr 7 10:07:18 2013 From: hopfgarten@mail.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 10:07:18 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com><515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com><5160E465.3080206@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <27F6459031EA4599967B75A25D7A738D@PaulPC> What they Should do is make 3 from Braintree to Cape I-193, have I-93 go down Rte. 24 to Tiverton RI and make the 3 miles between 24 and 95 I-393 OR I-595 From: Kevin Vahey Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 3:28 AM To: A Joseph Ross Cc: Pariho ; boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions Mass DOT now has a proposal that will make traffic reporters cringe. They want to make Rte 3 to the Sagamore Bridge I-93 and the what was 128 from Braintree to Dedham I-193. From lglavin@mail.com Thu Apr 11 14:45:11 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:45:11 -0400 Subject: WCAP At Reduced Pwer Message-ID: <20130411184511.160730@gmx.com> I have no way of determining if WPLM-AM is running at reduced power, but up here in the Merrimack Valley, Lowell's WCAP-AM 980 certainly is. Any time I've checked, it's been broadcasting although some people have reported elsewhere that it's been off-the-air from time to time. WCAP used t be authrized to operate with 1,000 wats non-directional days, and it used to have a pre-sunrise power of about 110 watts. Their website says that "the transmitter may be down" but people have the alternative of listening online. It's possible I suppose that they're using an auxiliary transmitter into one tower, just as WDER-AM 1320 in Derry, NH did during the winter. WCAP comes in with close to the signal strength it always had during the day where I live, but it's nowhere near normal at night. From lglavin@mail.com Sun Apr 14 16:26:31 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:26:31 -0400 Subject: Could This Be The Reason? Message-ID: <20130414202631.218610@gmx.com> There's a very widely-read website called Business Insider. It appeals to people from a variety of backgrounds, interests and occupations. It just ran this story: http://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-the-single-most-important-life-lesson-older-people-feel-young-people-need-to-know-2013-4 Even if John Rish and Pete Sheppard didn't read the article, could this be the reason they said "sayonara" to WEEI? It could even apply to numerous individuals who, to quote Jerry Williams, "got out of the business". From lglavin@mail.com Thu Apr 18 14:15:25 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 14:15:25 -0400 Subject: WUFC 1510 hires Pete Sheppard Message-ID: <20130418181525.218030@gmx.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bob Nelson >Sent: 04/18/13 12:15 PM >To: Boston Radio Group >Subject: WUFC 1510 hires Pete Sheppard >Former WEEI host Pete Sheppard will be on WUFC AM 1510 starting next >Monday, 3-6 pm weekdays. He is on the air right now with Boston Diehards >and said he feels sorry for his friends at "the other place", WEEI (which >he had quit) and feels very positively about his new employer. Of course. There's a famous "Twilight Zone" episode that ends with the Sebastian Cabot character telling the Larry Blyden character :"this IS the other place!". I hope WUFC doesn't fall into such a negative connotation. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Apr 18 16:29:11 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:29:11 -0400 Subject: WUFC 1510 hires Pete Sheppard References: <20130418181525.218030@gmx.com> Message-ID: <0ED0D5B9CABD4D70A2B316939CDEACD9@SatU205S5044> Does anyone know for sure that Sheppard is now employed by WUFC? He might be buying the time from the station and hoping to be able to find sponsors that will pay for the air-time plus enough extra that he can pay himself a modest salary. I would say that the chances of his leasing the time (vs. drawing a salary from the station) are about even. North of 1200 on the Boston AM dial (and at assorted spots below), leased time is pretty much THE way of life. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Bob Nelson" ; "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:15 PM Subject: Re: WUFC 1510 hires Pete Sheppard > >----- Original Message ----- >>From: Bob Nelson >>Sent: 04/18/13 12:15 PM >>To: Boston Radio Group >>Subject: WUFC 1510 hires Pete Sheppard > >>Former WEEI host Pete Sheppard will be on WUFC AM 1510 starting next >> >Monday, 3-6 pm weekdays. He is on the air right now with Boston Diehards >> >and said he feels sorry for his friends at "the other place", WEEI >> >(which >> >he had quit) and feels very positively about his new employer. Of >> >course. > There's a famous "Twilight Zone" episode that ends with the Sebastian > Cabot character telling the > Larry Blyden character :"this IS the other place!". I hope WUFC doesn't > fall into such a negative > connotation. From ecps92@earthlink.net Thu Apr 18 16:44:56 2013 From: ecps92@earthlink.net (~Bill) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:44:56 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: <688578078889409898CA965859D4D548@PaulPC> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> <983828D1-6E75-4551-AF26-E6F0B6A7319E@charter.net> <688578078889409898CA965859D4D548@PaulPC> Message-ID: <145a01ce3c75$97400b00$c5c02100$@net> Dial 617 N-E-S-T-L-E-S for time and weather NESTLES, Nestles makes the very best Chocolate Bill - N1KUG Boston, Mass Cruise Ship Frequencies http://scanmaritime.com/ ? -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hopfgarten Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 12:00 PM To: Paul Anderson; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions We're the one for you New England, New England Telephone......... How many cookies did ANdrew eat....ANdrew 8-8000! -Paul H -----Original Message----- From: Paul Anderson Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 9:30 AM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Group Subject: Re: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions On Apr 6, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Pariho wrote: > Back to 128, anyone old enough to remember when 128 continued on the > South Shore to Nantasket (hence the current 228 when they stopped 128 > at Braintree in the early 1960s) I BARELY remember it and only because > I did have an Aunt and Uncle in Hingham at the time. I'm surprised the traffic reporters don't still call that section "128" then. It makes as much sense as calling I-93 south of Boston "The Expressway" since there are no signs indicating it as such, or the part of I-93 from Canton to Braintree "128". Well, gotta go. I have to pay my phone bill to New England Telephone. Paul From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Apr 18 16:14:42 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:14:42 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: <688578078889409898CA965859D4D548@PaulPC> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> <983828D1-6E75-4551-AF26-E6F0B6A7319E@charter.net> <688578078889409898CA965859D4D548@PaulPC> Message-ID: <51705432.6030300@attorneyross.com> On 4/6/2013 12:00 PM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > On Apr 6, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Pariho wrote: > >> Back to 128, anyone old enough to remember when 128 continued on the >> South Shore to Nantasket (hence the current 228 when they stopped 128 >> at Braintree in the early 1960s) I BARELY remember it and only >> because I did have an Aunt and Uncle in Hingham at the time. > > I'm surprised the traffic reporters don't still call that section > "128" then. It makes as much sense as calling I-93 south of Boston > "The Expressway" since there are no signs indicating it as such, or > the part of I-93 from Canton to Braintree "128". On the subject of roads, etc., does anyone know what the signs that I've seen along I-93 and on surface roads around I-93 in Boston containing the letters HC inside a green circle are? And also the signs containing the same letters inside a red circle-slash? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Apr 18 17:22:17 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 17:22:17 -0400 Subject: WUFC 1510 hires Pete Sheppard In-Reply-To: <0ED0D5B9CABD4D70A2B316939CDEACD9@SatU205S5044> References: <20130418181525.218030@gmx.com> <0ED0D5B9CABD4D70A2B316939CDEACD9@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <51706409.70401@attorneyross.com> On 4/18/2013 4:29 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Does anyone know for sure that Sheppard is now employed by WUFC? He > might be > buying the time from the station and hoping to be able to find > sponsors that > will pay for the air-time plus enough extra that he can pay himself a > modest > salary. I would say that the chances of his leasing the time (vs. > drawing a > salary from the station) are about even. North of 1200 on the Boston > AM dial > (and at assorted spots below), leased time is pretty much THE way of > life. I must not have been paying attention. When did 1510 become WUFC? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Apr 18 18:30:08 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 18:30:08 -0400 Subject: WUFC 1510 hires Pete Sheppard In-Reply-To: <51706409.70401@attorneyross.com> References: <20130418181525.218030@gmx.com> <0ED0D5B9CABD4D70A2B316939CDEACD9@SatU205S5044> <51706409.70401@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Calls changed when they went to NBC sports format They even have a website http://www.1510nbcsportsradio.com/ On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 5:22 PM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 4/18/2013 4:29 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > > Does anyone know for sure that Sheppard is now employed by WUFC? He might >> be >> buying the time from the station and hoping to be able to find sponsors >> that >> will pay for the air-time plus enough extra that he can pay himself a >> modest >> salary. I would say that the chances of his leasing the time (vs. drawing >> a >> salary from the station) are about even. North of 1200 on the Boston AM >> dial >> (and at assorted spots below), leased time is pretty much THE way of life. >> > > I must not have been paying attention. When did 1510 become WUFC? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com > > From sids1045@aol.com Thu Apr 18 19:10:05 2013 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:10:05 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: <51705432.6030300@attorneyross.com> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> <983828D1-6E75-4551-AF26-E6F0B6A7319E@charter.net> <688578078889409898CA965859D4D548@PaulPC> <51705432.6030300@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Hazardous cargo permitted or prohibited. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:14 PM, "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: > On 4/6/2013 12:00 PM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > >> On Apr 6, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Pariho wrote: >> >>> Back to 128, anyone old enough to remember when 128 continued on the South Shore to Nantasket (hence the current 228 when they stopped 128 at Braintree in the early 1960s) I BARELY remember it and only because I did have an Aunt and Uncle in Hingham at the time. >> >> I'm surprised the traffic reporters don't still call that section "128" then. It makes as much sense as calling I-93 south of Boston "The Expressway" since there are no signs indicating it as such, or the part of I-93 from Canton to Braintree "128". > > On the subject of roads, etc., does anyone know what the signs that I've seen along I-93 and on surface roads around I-93 in Boston containing the letters HC inside a green circle are? And also the signs containing the same letters inside a red circle-slash? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com > From bob.bosra@demattia.net Thu Apr 18 19:54:47 2013 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:54:47 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: <51705432.6030300@attorneyross.com> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com>, <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com>, <983828D1-6E75-4551-AF26-E6F0B6A7319E@charter.net>, <688578078889409898CA965859D4D548@PaulPC>, <51705432.6030300@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Hazardous Cargo > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:14:42 -0400 > From: joe@attorneyross.com > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions > > On 4/6/2013 12:00 PM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > > > On Apr 6, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Pariho wrote: > > > >> Back to 128, anyone old enough to remember when 128 continued on the > >> South Shore to Nantasket (hence the current 228 when they stopped 128 > >> at Braintree in the early 1960s) I BARELY remember it and only > >> because I did have an Aunt and Uncle in Hingham at the time. > > > > I'm surprised the traffic reporters don't still call that section > > "128" then. It makes as much sense as calling I-93 south of Boston > > "The Expressway" since there are no signs indicating it as such, or > > the part of I-93 from Canton to Braintree "128". > > On the subject of roads, etc., does anyone know what the signs that I've > seen along I-93 and on surface roads around I-93 in Boston containing > the letters HC inside a green circle are? And also the signs containing > the same letters inside a red circle-slash? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com > From bob.bosra@demattia.net Thu Apr 18 19:56:15 2013 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:56:15 -0400 Subject: WUFC 1510 hires Pete Sheppard In-Reply-To: <51706409.70401@attorneyross.com> References: <20130418181525.218030@gmx.com>, <0ED0D5B9CABD4D70A2B316939CDEACD9@SatU205S5044>, <51706409.70401@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: October 4, last year. -Bob > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 17:22:17 -0400 > From: joe@attorneyross.com > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: WUFC 1510 hires Pete Sheppard > > On 4/18/2013 4:29 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > > > Does anyone know for sure that Sheppard is now employed by WUFC? He > > might be > > buying the time from the station and hoping to be able to find > > sponsors that > > will pay for the air-time plus enough extra that he can pay himself a > > modest > > salary. I would say that the chances of his leasing the time (vs. > > drawing a > > salary from the station) are about even. North of 1200 on the Boston > > AM dial > > (and at assorted spots below), leased time is pretty much THE way of > > life. > > I must not have been paying attention. When did 1510 become WUFC? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com > From ecps92@earthlink.net Thu Apr 18 20:51:31 2013 From: ecps92@earthlink.net (~Bill) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 20:51:31 -0400 Subject: Highway Signs In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> <983828D1-6E75-4551-AF26-E6F0B6A7319E@charter.net> <688578078889409898CA965859D4D548@PaulPC> <51705432.6030300@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <162801ce3c98$0a02bc10$1e083430$@net> Hazardous Cargo Route for the Green Signs The Red Circle with a Slash means Prohibited Bill - N1KUG Boston, Mass Cruise Ship Frequencies http://scanmaritime.com/ ? -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Sid Schweiger Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:10 PM To: A. Joseph Ross Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions Hazardous cargo permitted or prohibited. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:14 PM, "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: > On 4/6/2013 12:00 PM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > >> On Apr 6, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Pariho wrote: >> >>> > > On the subject of roads, etc., does anyone know what the signs that I've seen along I-93 and on surface roads around I-93 in Boston containing the letters HC inside a green circle are? And also the signs containing the same letters inside a red circle-slash? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA > 02109-2004 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | > http://www.attorneyross.com > From linc45r-n@lincster.com Thu Apr 18 22:14:54 2013 From: linc45r-n@lincster.com (Linc Reed-Nickerson) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:14:54 -0700 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: <51705432.6030300@attorneyross.com> References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> <983828D1-6E75-4551-AF26-E6F0B6A7319E@charter.net> <688578078889409898CA965859D4D548@PaulPC> <51705432.6030300@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <5170A89E.7030706@lincster.com> As a railfan I enjoyed all the extra gravel trains from central New Hampshire on the Boston & Maine to fill the section that ran across the marsh into Lynn from Revere. I drove from Newburyport to WHDH in 1965 and then to WBZ from 1967 to 1973... hard to believe I left WBZ 40 years ago next month. There are probably only 4 or 5 technicians still living that were there when I started at WBZ fresh out of Vietnam, time passes. Linc Burns, Oregon From m_carney@yahoo.com Thu Apr 18 22:42:48 2013 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Channel 13 allocation for Boston? Message-ID: <1366339368.26806.YahooMailNeo@web120502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I was looking at a copy of Broadcasting magazine from 6/5/1956 that had a story about WTAO radio and TV. There was a line about WTAO TV (the original channel 56, which was off the air by that point) awaiting a determination on a petition to move to channel 13. Does anyone know about this? I have never seen channel 13 listed as a Boston allocation, and WGAN ?Portland was already on the air on channel 13. Just curious. Maureen From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Apr 18 23:46:01 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 23:46:01 -0400 Subject: Channel 13 allocation for Boston? In-Reply-To: <1366339368.26806.YahooMailNeo@web120502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1366339368.26806.YahooMailNeo@web120502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I was told years ago WGAN-TV was looking to move to 3 because 13 had a much weaker signal than WCSH. WCAX-TV in Burlington fought it and the issue went away. On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Maureen Carney wrote: > I was looking at a copy of Broadcasting magazine from 6/5/1956 that had a > story about WTAO radio and TV. There was a line about WTAO TV (the original > channel 56, which was off the air by that point) awaiting a determination > on a petition to move to channel 13. Does anyone know about this? I have > never seen channel 13 listed as a Boston allocation, and WGAN Portland was > already on the air on channel 13. Just curious. > > Maureen > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Apr 18 23:59:43 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 23:59:43 -0400 Subject: WUFC 1510 hires Pete Sheppard In-Reply-To: <20130418181525.218030@gmx.com> References: <20130418181525.218030@gmx.com> Message-ID: <5170C12F.2000901@attorneyross.com> On 4/18/2013 2:15 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: >> Former WEEI host Pete Sheppard will be on WUFC AM 1510 starting next >Monday, 3-6 pm weekdays. He is on the air right now with Boston Diehards >and said he feels sorry for his friends at "the other place", WEEI (which >he had quit) and feels very positively about his new employer. Of course. > There's a famous "Twilight Zone" episode that ends with the Sebastian Cabot character telling the > Larry Blyden character :"this IS the other place!". I hope WUFC doesn't fall into such a negative > connotation. In the British Parliament, "the other place" is how members of each House refer to the other House. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Apr 19 00:02:13 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:02:13 -0400 Subject: Rhode Island names and other odd naming conventions In-Reply-To: References: <20130405141514.224920@gmx.com> <515F9ED3.8030806@attorneyross.com> <983828D1-6E75-4551-AF26-E6F0B6A7319E@charter.net> <688578078889409898CA965859D4D548@PaulPC> <51705432.6030300@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <5170C1C5.5030709@attorneyross.com> On 4/18/2013 7:10 PM, Sid Schweiger wrote: > Hazardous cargo permitted or prohibited. Thanks. I figured someone on this forum would know. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From billohno@gmail.com Fri Apr 19 15:31:30 2013 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 15:31:30 -0400 Subject: VT Coverage Message-ID: <51719B92.1080601@gmail.com> Burlington's channel 5 (WPTZ) just switched over to sister station WCVB's coverage when NBC cut away. WCAX (3) carrying CBS w/w.) The ABC and Fox affils are on regular programming. On the radio side, WDEV (96.1//550) has maintained local for the most part but with AP radio cut-ins and local talk. WVMT has stayed with regular programming but they're a Howie Carr 3-7p affiliate. A very tough day especially for over a half million people sheltering in place. Bill O'Neill From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Apr 20 19:34:05 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:34:05 -0400 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?FCC_Has_No_Issue_With_David_Ortiz=92s_Pregame_Speech?= Message-ID: FCC Has No Issue With David Ortiz?s Pregame Speech, Says He ?Spoke >From the Heart? What he said http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWD1Rwa9LTk&feature=youtu.be Read more at: http://nesn.com/2013/04/fcc-has-no-issue-with-david-ortizs-pregame-speech-says-he-spoke-from-the-heart/ From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Apr 20 20:08:21 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:08:21 -0400 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_FCC_Has_No_Issue_With_David_Ortiz=92s_Pregame_Sp?= =?windows-1252?Q?eech?= In-Reply-To: <1905529762.120010.1366501119077.JavaMail.root@well.com> References: <1905529762.120010.1366501119077.JavaMail.root@well.com> Message-ID: Here is a link from NESN On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Blaine Thompson wrote: > "This video contains content from MLB Advanced Media, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." > > - Blaine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Vahey" > To: "Boston Radio Group" > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:34:05 PM > Subject: FCC Has No Issue With David Ortiz?s Pregame Speech > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWD1Rwa9LTk&feature=youtu.be From ecps92@earthlink.net Sat Apr 20 20:16:13 2013 From: ecps92@earthlink.net (~Bill) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:16:13 -0400 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?_FCC_Has_No_Issue_With_David_Ortiz's_Pregame_Speech?= In-Reply-To: References: <1905529762.120010.1366501119077.JavaMail.root@well.com> Message-ID: <205801ce3e25$6fcc38d0$4f64aa70$@net> Try this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoTnGa-Dckw Bill - N1KUG Boston, Mass Cruise Ship Frequencies http://scanmaritime.com/ ? -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Vahey Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:08 PM To: Blaine Thompson Cc: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: FCC Has No Issue With David Ortiz?s Pregame Speech Here is a link from NESN On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Blaine Thompson wrote: > "This video contains content from MLB Advanced Media, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." > > - Blaine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Vahey" > To: "Boston Radio Group" > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:34:05 PM > Subject: FCC Has No Issue With David Ortiz?s Pregame Speech > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWD1Rwa9LTk&feature=youtu.be From ecps92@earthlink.net Sat Apr 20 20:01:02 2013 From: ecps92@earthlink.net (~Bill) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:01:02 -0400 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?_FCC_Has_No_Issue_With_David_Ortiz's_Pregame_Speech?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <204d01ce3e23$506fba40$f14f2ec0$@net> MLB has decided to block that u-tube, same on those ID 10 T's Bill - N1KUG Boston, Mass Cruise Ship Frequencies http://scanmaritime.com/ ? -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Vahey Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:34 PM To: Boston Radio Group Subject: FCC Has No Issue With David Ortiz?s Pregame Speech FCC Has No Issue With David Ortiz?s Pregame Speech, Says He ?Spoke From the Heart? What he said http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWD1Rwa9LTk&feature=youtu.be Read more at: http://nesn.com/2013/04/fcc-has-no-issue-with-david-ortizs-pregame-speech-sa ys-he-spoke-from-the-heart/ From irw@well.com Sat Apr 20 19:38:39 2013 From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_FCC_Has_No_Issue_With_David_Ortiz=E2=80=99s_Pregame_Speech?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1905529762.120010.1366501119077.JavaMail.root@well.com> "This video contains content from MLB Advanced Media, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." - Blaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:34:05 PM Subject: FCC Has No Issue With David Ortiz?s Pregame Speech > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWD1Rwa9LTk&feature=youtu.be From lglavin@mail.com Fri Apr 19 13:56:48 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:56:48 -0400 Subject: Contract "Employees" On Full-Power Major Market FM Message-ID: <20130419175648.103850@gmx.com> Several radio sites have reported on a threesome called "Rob, Arnie and Dawn" who were suspended by Entercom-owned KRXQ-FM in Sacramento, Ca. They were criticized for making up a list of five things that are bad about Boston the day after the Boston Marathon explosions, (Hey, there's a website called universalhub.com where we can make lists longer than that every day, but we don't like outsiders doing it). Anyway, one detail that has emerged from this incident is the fact that "Rob, Arnie and Dawn" are NOT employees of KRXQ, but air their show on that station via a time-brokered agreement. Now, that's not unusual on the AM dial, especially on AMs way up on the dial, like, oh, I dunno, 1230, 1300, 1330, 1470, 1510, 1550 and 1600 in the Boston area. But KRXQ is a 50,000-watt facility (at 500 feet; apparently with one exception, FMs in Sacramento don't have heritage superpower authorizations like other markets iin California) that's ranked third in the 6+ PPMs released to the public, and it's owned by a conglomerate. Outlets like these would be expected to EMPLOY morning-drive hosts and DJs and even have them sign contracts to keep them from jumping to the competition. "Rob, Arnie and Dawn" are also described as "self-syndicating" like many time-brokered hosts on AM radio as described above. So with regard to the people doing sports talk on WUFC-AM 1510, it seems likely most may be purchasing the time for their shows...ditto for MICHAEL G-R-A-A-H-A-M at WCRN-AM 830, also on 1120 and 1390. (According to the WUFC website, Anthony Pepe appears to be part of "management" there and may be an employee). Could the time be coming when hosts and DJs on FM are also time-brokered as well? From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Apr 21 13:58:15 2013 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:58:15 -0400 Subject: Fw: Contract "Employees" On Full-Power Major Market FM Message-ID: <457BEE432C48441F926620AAE273BA1D@SatU205S5044> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "Laurence Glavin" Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Contract "Employees" On Full-Power Major Market FM > WOR (recently purchased by CCU), one of New York's premiere AMs, has > depended on brokered time since I was a little kid in the Bronx, 70 years > ago. Carleton Fredericks and Martha Deane (later known by her real name, > Mary-Margaret McBride, on other NYC-licensed 50-kW AMs) were just two of > the > personalities who purchased time from WOR, where they were mainstays of > the > schedule. In fact, I believe that what is alleged to have been the very > first commercial program anywhere was brokered time. From what I've read, > it > aired 91 years ago in 1922 on WEAF (now WFAN), which was then owned by > AT&T. The program was a half-hour commercial for real-estate. I would not > be > surprised if a Web search would yield the name of the real-estate broker > and > the name and location of the property. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurence Glavin" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 1:56 PM > Subject: Contract "Employees" On Full-Power Major Market FM > > >> Several radio sites have reported on a threesome called "Rob, Arnie and >> Dawn" who were suspended by >> Entercom-owned KRXQ-FM in Sacramento, Ca. From mward@iname.com Sun Apr 21 15:28:50 2013 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:28:50 -0400 Subject: Contract "Employees" On Full-Power Major Market FM In-Reply-To: <20130419175648.103850@gmx.com> References: <20130419175648.103850@gmx.com> Message-ID: I used to work for a competitor of theirs (CC's KFBK), but I'm pretty sure RA&D don't actually buy the time on KRXQ, unless they're doing so to make money on the commercial and other sales. They own the show and syndicate it to at least one other station in Reno...they've been on other stations in the Central Valley from time to time. I'm pretty sure that this is also not "time brokering". On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Several radio sites have reported on a threesome called "Rob, Arnie and > Dawn" who were suspended by > Entercom-owned KRXQ-FM in Sacramento, Ca. They were criticized for making > up a list of > five things that are bad about Boston the day after the Boston Marathon > explosions, > (Hey, there's a website called universalhub.com where we can make lists > longer than that every day, > but we don't like outsiders doing it). Anyway, one detail that has emerged > from this incident is > the fact that "Rob, Arnie and Dawn" are NOT employees of KRXQ, but air > their show on that station > via a time-brokered agreement. Now, that's not unusual on the AM dial, > especially on AMs way up on > the dial, like, oh, I dunno, 1230, 1300, 1330, 1470, 1510, 1550 and 1600 > in the Boston area. But > KRXQ is a 50,000-watt facility (at 500 feet; apparently with one > exception, FMs in Sacramento > don't have heritage superpower authorizations like other markets iin > California) that's ranked third > in the 6+ PPMs released to the public, and it's owned by a conglomerate. > Outlets like these > would be expected to EMPLOY morning-drive hosts and DJs and even have them > sign contracts > to keep them from jumping to the competition. "Rob, Arnie and Dawn" are > also described as > "self-syndicating" like many time-brokered hosts on AM radio as described > above. So with regard to > the people doing sports talk on WUFC-AM 1510, it seems likely most may be > purchasing the time > for their shows...ditto for MICHAEL G-R-A-A-H-A-M at WCRN-AM 830, also on > 1120 and 1390. > (According to the WUFC website, Anthony Pepe appears to be part of > "management" there and may > be an employee). Could the time be coming when hosts and DJs on FM are > also time-brokered as well? > From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Apr 23 12:30:28 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:30:28 -0400 Subject: TV-over-Internet service Aereo expands to Boston Message-ID: They say they will deliver 28 OTA signals starting May 15th for $8 a month. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57580897-93/aereo-to-bring-tv-streaming-service-to-boston-in-may/ From kenwvt@gmail.com Tue Apr 23 12:34:51 2013 From: kenwvt@gmail.com (Ken VanTassell) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:34:51 -0400 Subject: TV-over-Internet service Aereo expands to Boston In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sign me up ! Includes 20 hours of cloud dvr, and I can stream it to my TV with my Roku box. -Ken On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > They say they will deliver 28 OTA signals starting May 15th for $8 a month. > > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57580897-93/aereo-to-bring-tv-streaming-service-to-boston-in-may/ > From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Apr 24 00:40:17 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 00:40:17 -0400 Subject: TV-over-Internet service Aereo expands to Boston In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51776231.3090703@attorneyross.com> On 4/23/2013 12:30 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > They say they will deliver 28 OTA signals starting May 15th for $8 a month. > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57580897-93/aereo-to-bring-tv-streaming-service-to-boston-in-may/ I wonder what it'll cost after a few years. When cable TV started in Brookline in the early 1980s, basic cable was $2 per month and had a lot of channels beyond the local broadcast channels. Now you pay much more for the equivalent service -- and current basic cable is much fewer channels for a lot more money. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Wed Apr 24 16:59:33 2013 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:59:33 -0400 Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com Message-ID: <2161ADB202A04D8880E11F263C04BCEE@s20035> Many have been pointing to WGST-FM in Atlanta as an indicator of how Clear Channel is dealing with the talk format on FM. While Limbaugh stays on heritage WSB....the rest of the CC syndicated talk lineup is back on WGST-FM. http://www.accessatlanta.com/weblogs/radio-tv-talk/2013/apr/23/wgst-returns-june-3-all-syndicated-glenn-beck-dave/ Again, it all depends on how much corporate wants to clear the syndicated product. From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Apr 24 17:55:40 2013 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:55:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com Message-ID: You probably mean WEDX, evolution 101.7. Last I heard WFNX calls were headed to 99.9 in Athol, simulcasting the River. Well if Evolution flops maybe. 101.7 not a full market signal but does well within 128.. And outside, CC has talkers in NH, Worc. and RI -----Original message----- Sent: Wednesday, 24 April 2013 at 22:59:33 From: Don To: B-R-I Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com Many have been pointing to WGST-FM in Atlanta as an indicator of how Clear Channel is dealing with the talk format on FM. While Limbaugh stays on heritage WSB....the rest of the CC syndicated talk lineup is back on WGST-FM. http://www.accessatlanta.com/weblogs/radio-tv-talk/2013/apr/23/wgst-returns-june-3-all-syndicated-glenn-beck-dave/ Again, it all depends on how much corporate wants to clear the syndicated product. From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Apr 24 18:59:30 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:59:30 -0400 Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20856.25554.850804.264711@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < You probably mean WEDX, evolution 101.7. Last I heard WFNX calls > were headed to 99.9 in Athol, simulcasting the River. Well if > Evolution flops maybe. 101.7 not a full market signal but does well > within 128.. And outside, CC has talkers in NH, Worc. and RI The problem with talk on 101.7 hasn't changed: it simply doesn't go where the conservatalk audience is. You might be able to squeeze another mile or two out of it if you turned off the stereo pilot, but not enough to make a difference in Woburn or Dedham or Westford. They've already tried talk on a signal that doesn't reach the suburbs, and I don't expect them to throw good money after bad when they can do something that is (a) cheap, (b) targeted to the audience the signal actually serves, and (c) cheap. Not to mention (d) cheap. And they can sell WEDX in a package with Kiss and Jam'n, whereas trying to make any sort of local sales for a talk format would require a dedicated staff (not to mention programming that people actually wanted to listen to). Clearing lots of second-tier Premiere conservatalk will get them a 0.1 rating, additional expense, and zero incremental revenue. Clear Channel is not going to give up even the small amount of revenue they get, on a signal they paid big bucks for, in exchange for an even smaller amount of revenue in a different reporting segment of the company. -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Apr 24 19:10:51 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:10:51 -0400 Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com In-Reply-To: <20856.25554.850804.264711@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <20856.25554.850804.264711@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <5178667B.9070804@attorneyross.com> On 4/24/2013 6:59 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Clear Channel is not going to give up even the small amount of revenue > they get, on a signal they paid big bucks for, in exchange for an even > smaller amount of revenue in a different reporting segment of the > company. So why did they pay big bucks for a signal that gives them such a small amount of revenue? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. | 92 State Street | Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468| Fx: 617.507.7856 | http://www.attorneyross.com From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Wed Apr 24 21:23:28 2013 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com In-Reply-To: <20856.25554.850804.264711@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1366853008.36364.YahooMailClassic@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > They've already tried talk on a signal that doesn't reach > the suburbs, Yes, but that was on AM. There hasn't been a successful launch of anything on AM since sports...and what was that? 20 years ago? > and I don't expect them to throw good money after bad when > they can do > something that is (a) cheap, (b) targeted to the audience > the signal > actually serves, and (c) cheap.? Not to mention (d) > cheap.? Airing syndicated talk is one of the cheapest things they can do. > And they > can sell WEDX in a package with Kiss and Jam'n, Buyers don't care about pairings. Been tried before and buyers simply take them apart to analyze the buy. right now no one is buying 101.7 and no one will pay a premium to get it. >> Maybe if WEVX eventually fails. It's already failed. After all the analysis, the decision is really made back at the corperate level. And it all comes down to how much urgency is there to get their programs cleared. BTW...Do you really think Hannity and Beck are "second tier"? From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Apr 24 22:41:07 2013 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:41:07 -0400 Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com In-Reply-To: <1366853008.36364.YahooMailClassic@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <20856.25554.850804.264711@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <1366853008.36364.YahooMailClassic@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20856.38851.162879.351565@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: >> And they >> can sell WEDX in a package with Kiss and Jam'n, > Buyers don't care about pairings. Doesn't matter; the point is that a single sales staff can sell them. They're targeting many of the same clients. > BTW...Do you really think Hannity and Beck are "second tier"? OK, third tier talent. If they were worth having, somebody would be clearing them now. -GAWollman From sids1045@aol.com Wed Apr 24 22:56:49 2013 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:56:49 -0400 Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com In-Reply-To: <1366853008.36364.YahooMailClassic@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1366853008.36364.YahooMailClassic@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <955B25B7-30F0-40C0-8099-377BF2133F60@aol.com> "Do you really think Hannity and Beck are "second tier"?" Far lower than that. If Hannity calls someone a "great American" one more time, I cannot be held responsible for my actions... From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Apr 24 22:36:06 2013 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:36:06 -0400 Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com In-Reply-To: <20856.25554.850804.264711@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <20856.25554.850804.264711@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <06278284-B6F9-4DF2-B6CA-EE3EA0951FE5@mac.com> On Apr 24, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > The problem with talk on 101.7 hasn't changed: it simply doesn't go > where the conservatalk audience is. You might be able to squeeze > another mile or two out of it if you turned off the stereo pilot, but > not enough to make a difference in Woburn or Dedham or Westford. I keep hearing how poor this signal supposedly is, I get them just fine both at home and in the car here in North Salem, NH. I know they probably don't get up to Concord, NH like some of the other Boston signals do, but I think the weakness of this signal is being greatly exaggerated. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Apr 24 23:47:39 2013 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:47:39 -0400 Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com In-Reply-To: <06278284-B6F9-4DF2-B6CA-EE3EA0951FE5@mac.com> References: <20856.25554.850804.264711@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <06278284-B6F9-4DF2-B6CA-EE3EA0951FE5@mac.com> Message-ID: <3F1221A8-6F2B-4751-BE8C-1038421D0041@comcast.net> Most of the problems with the 101.7 signal are to the south, in the direction of the signals it's protecting, 101.5 WWBB Providence and 101.9 WCIB Falmouth. Also, WGST Atlanta is an AM station, 640... not FM. It had a long history of being a talk station before going ESPN Deportes. I don't think that situation can be compared to what they have here in Boston at all. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Larry Weil wrote: I keep hearing how poor this signal supposedly is, I get them just fine both at home and in the car here in North Salem, NH. I know they probably don't get up to Concord, NH like some of the other Boston signals do, but I think the weakness of this signal is being greatly exaggerated. > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Apr 24 23:52:28 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:52:28 -0400 Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com In-Reply-To: <06278284-B6F9-4DF2-B6CA-EE3EA0951FE5@mac.com> References: <20856.25554.850804.264711@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <06278284-B6F9-4DF2-B6CA-EE3EA0951FE5@mac.com> Message-ID: <5178A87C.7030909@attorneyross.com> On 4/24/2013 10:36 PM, Larry Weil wrote: > I keep hearing how poor this signal supposedly is, I get them just fine both at home and in the car here in North Salem, NH. I know they probably don't get up to Concord, NH like some of the other Boston signals do, but I think the weakness of this signal is being greatly exaggerated. The signal doesn't reach very far south of Boston. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Apr 24 23:53:05 2013 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:53:05 -0400 Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com In-Reply-To: <955B25B7-30F0-40C0-8099-377BF2133F60@aol.com> References: <1366853008.36364.YahooMailClassic@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <955B25B7-30F0-40C0-8099-377BF2133F60@aol.com> Message-ID: <5178A8A1.1010106@attorneyross.com> On 4/24/2013 10:56 PM, Sid Schweiger wrote: > "Do you really think Hannity and Beck are "second tier"?" > > Far lower than that. If Hannity calls someone a "great American" one more time, I cannot be held responsible for my actions... Doesn't that depend on whom he calls a "great American"? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.| 92 State Street| Suite 700| Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856| http://www.attorneyross.com From chris2526@comcast.net Thu Apr 25 01:17:01 2013 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:17:01 -0400 Subject: Garrett 100% correct on WEDX format Message-ID: <03A3D3C535694FAD871D7773D5283EEA@chrisHP> Having engineered the WEDX pattern and the One Financial installation I agree with Garrett 100%. WEDX is doing the cheapest most practical format for the signal they have to work with. It was moved from Medford because what once was a usable signal downtown for the Alternative format worsened over the years with each addition of RF to the Pru. People who originally worked at WFNX moving on to other markets upon returning to Boston were stunned at how badly the signal had deteriorated, unlistenable 101.7 (and useless 101.3 badly overshot the city...way too high) in Kenmore Square and at the Paradise and in Cambridge . I would have preferred a site over downtown at 328-400? for a lower HAAT with higher power for a denser signal but had to take what I could get. Beggars can?t be choosers as there was a 10.7 problem and I had to pull a fast one with the COL coverage, luckily it worked as there was no other place it could go. We now know what 103.7 at the John Hancock will be like, a weak receivable on the Lynnway but lost in the RF mess downtown. Even cranking up the Harris Z5CD to its full 5 kilowatts could not cut through the Pru RF mess. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Thu Apr 25 01:34:55 2013 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:34:55 -0400 Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com References: <20856.25554.850804.264711@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><1366853008.36364.YahooMailClassic@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20856.38851.162879.351565@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <669C4569A5754F2AB22E187F82EBD871@s20035> >>> And they >>> can sell WEDX in a package with Kiss and Jam'n, > >> Buyers don't care about pairings. > > Doesn't matter; the point is that a single sales staff can sell them. > They're targeting many of the same clients. And Ruth's Chris' could sell frankfurters on their menu too with the same chef's. Doesn't mean it would be a good use of their time, resources and talent. >> BTW...Do you really think Hannity and Beck are "second tier"? > > OK, third tier talent. OK...Who are the "first tier" talent of syndicated talk? Hannity and Beck (along with Limbaugh) are near or at the top for syndicated talkers. > If they were worth having, somebody would be clearing them now. Is that the "if anything is worth doing, someone else would be doing it" response? There are a lot of reasons why someone would not be doing it, one reason is that getting them cleared in Boston would not be a priority for anyone else as it might be for Clear Channel. Again, what it comes down to is how important is it for people at CC Corporate to get these cleared. Corporate broadcasters have been forcing crap on their local stations for a long time. It wouldn't be the first time. From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Apr 25 03:02:56 2013 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 03:02:56 -0400 Subject: WEEI continues to cut costs - Jim Cutler gone Message-ID: Jim Cutler and WEEI have ended their long time relationship Jim explains http://radiodiscussions.com/smf/index.php?topic=233522.0 Entercom is now considering moving studios to Watertown to save on rent - Jeff Brown seems to have corporate orders to cut as much fat as possible. I feel horrible for loyal Entercom employee's who have to be wondering what is next. The mess in Boston is hurting Entercom clusters in Buffalo and Rochester and even in Greenville, SC. 10 years ago Boston was the cash cow of the company - now it is dragging the entire company to oblivion. How is this going to play out? From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Apr 25 11:56:31 2013 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:56:31 -0400 Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com Message-ID: <20130425155631.131150@gmx.com> I think WGST 640 had been simulcasting on 92.3 but that won't be the plan now, as 92.3 (low power) will take the ESPN Deportes. (The FM had comedy most recently.) WEDX's signal is probably great within much of the 128 belt but it's been said not so good to the south, etc. Given the presence of the 101.5 in Prov and the 101.9 on the Cape, no surprise. If they did go talk (probably all syndie, unless they want to bring back Jeff Katz) those outside of the WEDX range could get most or all of the shows Premiere, etc has on 920 in RI, 580 in Worc., and 610 in Manchester. (Howie btw said yesterday that Glenn Beck was no longer on the terrestrial dial in Boston, but I'd think he could pick him up on the 580 or 920, etc. Not clear but south of town even just in Braintree, 920 could work. Probably hit Wellesley, too..) Clear Channel could seek to put 101.7 as a talker to reach Boston, etc., and let the other stations pick up the slack, but do they want to try it again...after 1200 didn't quite work out? But there is the fact that it's on FM. Do they want to try to continue to reach the Evolution audience or go for fans of Beck, Hannity, et al? From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Apr 25 11:49:58 2013 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:49:58 -0400 Subject: Could WFNX go talk? WGST returns June 3, all syndicated with Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey | Radio & TV Talk | www.accessatlanta.com Message-ID: <20130425154958.64310@gmx.com> Hannity got the "great American" line from Bill Cunningham, who I believe is still doing a show for Premiere on Sun nights plus a TV show. "You're a great American, give me a full report." Hannity also refers to Mark Levin (Howie will be filling in for Levin one day next week) as "The Great One"...I think that was Jackie Gleason's nickname too. From lglavin@mail.com Wed Apr 24 15:26:28 2013 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:26:28 -0400 Subject: Bob Bittner Thisclose To Being An FM Broadcaster Message-ID: <20130424192628.130940@gmx.com> The FCC has accepted the application for a license-to-cover by Blue Jey Broadcasting, holding company for Bob Bittner's radio empire in the State of Maine, to operate W252BT-FM in Freeport. It will serve to rebroadcast his co-owned WJTO-AM in Bath. This announcement was in the FCC Applications list for April 24th. From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Apr 29 22:42:34 2013 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 19:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WBIN Channel 50 News at 10pm is off the schedule Message-ID: <1367289754.77511.YahooMailNeo@web122602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I noticed this evening that WBIN News? (Derry NH) at 10pm did not air. I checked the website and it has been replaced by OMG Insider.? I checked the rest of the schedule to see if they moved the news, but it is gone. John B From irw@well.com Tue Apr 30 15:43:12 2013 From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Tom Wheeler to head FCC? In-Reply-To: <1738211220.192701.1367350772645.JavaMail.root@well.com> Message-ID: <2086634943.193686.1367350992238.JavaMail.root@well.com> The Wall Street Journal reports: "President Barack Obama is expected to soon nominate a former top lobbyist for the cable and wireless industries to lead the Federal Communications Commission, two people familiar with the matter said. Tom Wheeler, a venture capitalist and longtime industry operative, will be tapped to lead the agency that governs the nation's scarce wireless airwaves and regulates telephone networks and indecency on television. Mr. Obama is expected to make the announcement as soon as Wednesday, an industry official and a person familiar with Mr. Wheeler's situation said." - Blaine