From billohno@gmail.com Mon Dec 3 18:52:20 2012 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:52:20 -0500 Subject: Howie Carr VO guy Message-ID: <50BD3B34.8020809@gmail.com> How long has Dana Hersey been gone from Howie Carr's voice overs? The guy they have now is okay (for central casting, etc. borderline puke, etc.) but when he belts out "Who do you love?" it begs the question, Why would a guy replacing Dana Hersey even attempt a new or different treatment of the same well-worn text? (Not sure why this one bugs me.) Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Dec 3 20:10:43 2012 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 20:10:43 -0500 Subject: Howie Carr VO guy In-Reply-To: <50BD3B34.8020809@gmail.com> References: <50BD3B34.8020809@gmail.com> Message-ID: A year or two. Don't know his name but I think he was used on WAAF. I prefer Dana. On Dec 3, 2012 7:27 PM, "Bill O'Neill" wrote: > How long has Dana Hersey been gone from Howie Carr's voice overs? The guy > they have now is okay (for central casting, etc. borderline puke, etc.) but > when he belts out "Who do you love?" it begs the question, Why would a guy > replacing Dana Hersey even attempt a new or different treatment of the same > well-worn text? (Not sure why this one bugs me.) > > Bill O'Neill > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 5 15:08:02 2012 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 15:08:02 -0500 Subject: WMJX all Christmas Message-ID: as of 3 pm today WMJX is all Christmas http://www.magic1067.com/ From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 5 15:19:42 2012 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 15:19:42 -0500 Subject: WMJX all Christmas In-Reply-To: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com> References: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com> Message-ID: Other than WROR or WMJX I don't know who would have done it (possibly Harbor but I didn't think so). WSRS in Worc. has been Christmas for awhile now and reaches much of Boston area anyway and WHOM in NH and the 105.1 from Prov, they also have been Christmas. But now in Boston proper. On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Paul Norton wrote: > Bob Nelson wrote: >> >> as of 3 pm today WMJX is all Christmas >> >> http://www.magic1067.com/ > > > Well, SOMEONE had to do it. I was getting worried! > -- > Paul Norton > From rbello@belloassoc.com Wed Dec 5 16:40:23 2012 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 16:40:23 -0500 Subject: WMJX all Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com> Message-ID: No one is listening to WODS-HD3 ? They are all Christmas too On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > Other than WROR or WMJX I don't know who would have done it (possibly > Harbor but I didn't think so). WSRS in Worc. has been Christmas for > awhile now and reaches much of Boston area anyway and WHOM in NH and > the 105.1 from Prov, they also have been > Christmas. But now in Boston proper. > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Paul Norton wrote: > > Bob Nelson wrote: > >> > >> as of 3 pm today WMJX is all Christmas > >> > >> http://www.magic1067.com/ > > > > > > Well, SOMEONE had to do it. I was getting worried! > > -- > > Paul Norton > > > From ssmyth@psualum.com Wed Dec 5 20:40:24 2012 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 17:40:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: WMJX all Christmas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1354758024.42632.YahooMailNeo@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Bob Nelson wrote: >as of 3 pm today WMJX is all Christmas > >http://www.magic1067.com/ Funny, I saw something on one of (IIRC) Channel 25's newscasts this week mentioning how WSRS was the only Christmas music station in the area. From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Sat Dec 8 23:36:46 2012 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 20:36:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Arnold Dean of WTIC-AM radio Message-ID: <1355027806.45508.YahooMailNeo@web122406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ? ??? Arnold Dean, with WTIC-AM since 1965, died today (Saturday). He was best known for the nightly sports talk show he started in 1976, but did much else, too: ? http://www.courant.com/sports/other/hc-dean-obit-1209-20121208,0,465513.story From paul.norton@gmail.com Wed Dec 5 15:17:33 2012 From: paul.norton@gmail.com (Paul Norton) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: WMJX all Christmas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com> Bob Nelson wrote: > as of 3 pm today WMJX is all Christmas > > http://www.magic1067.com/ Well, SOMEONE had to do it. I was getting worried! -- Paul Norton From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Dec 9 10:14:12 2012 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:14:12 -0500 Subject: WMJX all Christmas In-Reply-To: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com> References: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <010301cdd61f$d880eab0$8982c010$@garysicecream.com> But they are playing the same 30 songs over and over and over.....During my 5 hour work shift yesterday I heard some songs 4 times! Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA www.garysicecream.com -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Paul Norton Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:18 PM To: Bob Nelson Cc: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: WMJX all Christmas Bob Nelson wrote: > as of 3 pm today WMJX is all Christmas > > http://www.magic1067.com/ Well, SOMEONE had to do it. I was getting worried! -- Paul Norton From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sun Dec 9 13:20:58 2012 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 13:20:58 -0500 Subject: WMJX all Christmas References: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com> <010301cdd61f$d880eab0$8982c010$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: > But they are playing the same 30 songs over and over and over.....During > my > 5 hour work shift yesterday I heard some songs 4 times! They appear to be playing a core group of power-Christmas songs on a 2 hour rotation...ala Top 40 style. The rest of the hour appears to be filled in with some lesser known songs, versions, aritsts. As I said above, this reminds me of the old days of AM Top 40...where you went for massive cume, and relatively low TSL (shorter listening spands). As with all programming, it's finding a balance between long TSL and big cume. Maybe this makes sense this time of the years, as people are rushing around listening for shorter and shorter spans through Christmas Day. (Bopping around in the car to pick this up, head over to aunties, check this store for that, etc.) While there are a lot of Christmas songs, if someone has a 20 minite trip to the mall, they WANT to hear Jingle Bell Rock, Felix Navidad, Merry Christmas Darling, Holly Jolly Christmas Rockin Around the Christmas Tree...and the other biggie songs. From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Dec 9 13:39:37 2012 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 13:39:37 -0500 Subject: WMJX all Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com> <010301cdd61f$d880eab0$8982c010$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <012101cdd63c$8abbd5c0$a0338140$@garysicecream.com> Bah Humbug! No song on any radio station should be repeated more than once a day! Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford, MA www.garysicecream.com -----Original Message----- From: Don [mailto:Donald_Astelle@Yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 1:21 PM To: Gary's Ice Cream; B-R-I Subject: Re: WMJX all Christmas > But they are playing the same 30 songs over and over and > over.....During my > 5 hour work shift yesterday I heard some songs 4 times! They appear to be playing a core group of power-Christmas songs on a 2 hour rotation...ala Top 40 style. The rest of the hour appears to be filled in with some lesser known songs, versions, aritsts. As I said above, this reminds me of the old days of AM Top 40...where you went for massive cume, and relatively low TSL (shorter listening spands). As with all programming, it's finding a balance between long TSL and big cume. Maybe this makes sense this time of the years, as people are rushing around listening for shorter and shorter spans through Christmas Day. (Bopping around in the car to pick this up, head over to aunties, check this store for that, etc.) While there are a lot of Christmas songs, if someone has a 20 minite trip to the mall, they WANT to hear Jingle Bell Rock, Felix Navidad, Merry Christmas Darling, Holly Jolly Christmas Rockin Around the Christmas Tree...and the other biggie songs. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sun Dec 9 14:18:37 2012 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:18:37 -0500 Subject: WMJX all Christmas References: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com><010301cdd61f$d880eab0$8982c010$@garysicecream.com> <012101cdd63c$8abbd5c0$a0338140$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <6A92E88071EB4FE0BB682A2E178890C5@s20035> > Bah Humbug! No song on any radio station should be repeated more than > once > a day! I think that thinking went the way of the MOR stations.....before Storz found that people kept playing the same songs in the jukebox over and over agin in Omaha (and discovered Top 40 radio!). ;-) From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Dec 9 21:13:57 2012 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 21:13:57 -0500 Subject: WMJX all Christmas In-Reply-To: <010301cdd61f$d880eab0$8982c010$@garysicecream.com> References: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com> <010301cdd61f$d880eab0$8982c010$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <38C25C26-04E6-4AA9-AFDA-53010F117213@mac.com> On Dec 9, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > But they are playing the same 30 songs over and over and over.....During my > 5 hour work shift yesterday I heard some songs 4 times! > You think that?s bad? Radio Hanukkah (on SiriusXM) must be playing The Dreidel Song seemingly every 10 minutes! Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Dec 9 22:04:24 2012 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 22:04:24 -0500 Subject: WMJX all Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com> <010301cdd61f$d880eab0$8982c010$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <50C55138.3010302@attorneyross.com> On 12/9/2012 1:20 PM, Don wrote: > > As I said above, this reminds me of the old days of AM Top 40...where you > went for massive cume, and relatively low TSL (shorter listening spands). > > As with all programming, it's finding a balance between long TSL and > big cume. What's TSL? (probably something obvious that I should be smart enough to recognize, but I'm missing it right now) > Maybe this makes sense this time of the years, as people are rushing > around > listening for shorter and shorter spans through Christmas Day. (Bopping > around in the car to pick this up, head over to aunties, check this store > for that, etc.) Then what about those of us who are working at our computer for a few hours? The solution: WJIB. I've got it on right now. > While there are a lot of Christmas songs, if someone has a 20 minite > trip to > the mall, they WANT to hear Jingle Bell Rock, Felix Navidad, Merry > Christmas > Darling, Holly Jolly Christmas Rockin Around the Christmas Tree...and the > other biggie songs. I want to hear Jingle Bells by the Singing Dogs. (actually, I heard it on WJIB a couple of days ago) -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.|92 State Street|Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856|http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Dec 9 22:21:42 2012 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 22:21:42 -0500 Subject: WMJX all Christmas In-Reply-To: <38C25C26-04E6-4AA9-AFDA-53010F117213@mac.com> References: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com> <010301cdd61f$d880eab0$8982c010$@garysicecream.com> <38C25C26-04E6-4AA9-AFDA-53010F117213@mac.com> Message-ID: <50C55546.2030401@attorneyross.com> On 12/9/2012 9:13 PM, Larry Weil wrote: > You think that?s bad? Radio Hanukkah (on SiriusXM) must be playing The Dreidel Song seemingly every 10 minutes! We need a Singing Dogs version of Maoz Tsur! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.|92 State Street|Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856|http://www.attorneyross.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Dec 10 00:21:30 2012 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 00:21:30 -0500 Subject: WMJX all Christmas References: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com><010301cdd61f$d880eab0$8982c010$@garysicecream.com> <50C55138.3010302@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <6D4FB560A4C44118BF32972C1E33D1E6@s20035> > What's TSL? (probably something obvious that I should be smart enough to > recognize, but I'm missing it right now) TSL = Time Spent Listening Some occaisions of listening might be only 10 minutes while is running out for breakfest milk. Some occaisions of listening might be 8 hours...when someone is in the office at work. > Then what about those of us who are working at our computer for a few > hours? The solution: WJIB. I've got it on right now. The solution for you? WJIB The solution for programmers? To find the balance between the two extremes. From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Dec 10 07:46:29 2012 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 07:46:29 -0500 Subject: WMJX all Christmas In-Reply-To: <6D4FB560A4C44118BF32972C1E33D1E6@s20035> References: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com> <010301cdd61f$d880eab0$8982c010$@garysicecream.com> <50C55138.3010302@attorneyross.com> <6D4FB560A4C44118BF32972C1E33D1E6@s20035> Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Don wrote: > What's TSL? (probably something obvious that I should be smart enough to >> recognize, but I'm missing it right now) >> > > TSL = Time Spent Listening > > Some occaisions of listening might be only 10 minutes while is running out > for breakfest milk. > > Some occaisions of listening might be 8 hours...when someone is in the > office at work. > > There are rumors (or at least there should be rumors) that TSL is dramatically affected by the frequency of the KARS for KIDS commericials. -Bob From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Dec 10 10:57:08 2012 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:57:08 -0500 Subject: The Princess Kate crank call fallout Message-ID: The 2 DJ's in question were terminated today which seems harsh as the call was looked at by station management before it went on the air. Prank calls have been around forever. Don Imus was doing them in the 60's and made a record album out of it. Obviously nobody could see the suicide of the nurse ahead of time. Here is an interview done on Sydney TV Monday evening. http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/video?videoid=c550f485-eb44-406e-880e-c1fe46ed913a Your thoughts? http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/2day-fm-cancels-show-suspends-prank-calls-20121210-2b5h9.html From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Dec 10 11:43:42 2012 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:43:42 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? Message-ID: http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/netgnomes/79932/whos-dropping-a-beat-into-boston/ Domain name registrations make some wonder if News Talk 96.9 might be going to rhythmic music soon. I'm pretty sure the contracts for Michael Graham and Eagan and Braude expire next year. Will 96.9 abandon news-talk for music? (So much for Howie Carr wanting an FM flagship for late 2014 if so...) Speculation for now... From billohno@gmail.com Mon Dec 10 12:56:20 2012 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:56:20 -0500 Subject: The Princess Kate crank call fallout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50C62244.8080905@gmail.com> On 12/10/2012 10:57 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The 2 DJ's in question were terminated today which seems harsh as the call > was looked at by station management before it went on the air. > > Prank calls have been around forever. Don Imus was doing them in the 60's > and made a record album out of it. > > Obviously nobody could see the suicide of the nurse ahead of time. > > Your thoughts? Past practices are generally questioned once they hit a brick wall. And they have. Had one of Imus' former foils killed themselves, presumably resulting from an interaction with his program, and it went public back in the day then it may have had an impact on at least how Imus chose to entertain moving forward. Perhaps. But it didn't work out that way. The entire industry is intended to first, make a profit, and second, to entertain by virtue of their presumed missions. People dying as a result of humiliation secondary to unsolicited public exposure is not funny. At least not quite yet. But we're getting there. Let's hang on. By the time our grandchildren are pausing their personal audio devices to examine a radio perhaps the only thing that will keep them tuned in will be interpersonal displays such as these. Bill O'Neill From markwats@comcast.net Mon Dec 10 20:00:31 2012 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:00:31 -0500 Subject: Red Sox Returning To WPKZ Fitchburg In 2013 Message-ID: <0F13C3A689C84D9DBFC1A865004F2403@MarkOTS3> WPKZ Fitchburg announced today that they will be airing Red Sox baseball in 2013. You may remember that their Red Sox network affiliation wasn't renewed for the 2012 season, and they aired New York Yankees games instead. Wonder what made Entercom decide to bring WPKZ back into the Sox network? Mark Watson From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Dec 10 21:31:09 2012 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:31:09 -0500 Subject: The Princess Kate crank call fallout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50C69AED.8020309@attorneyross.com> On 12/10/2012 10:57 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The 2 DJ's in question were terminated today which seems harsh as the call > was looked at by station management before it went on the air. The person lowest on the totem pole gets the blame, regardless of fairness. In 1935, on a popular Sunday night variety show on NBC radio, Don Ameche and Mae West did a skit in which they played Adam and Eve. The skit was a bit racy for 1935 (though listening to it today, it's hard to see what the fuss was about), and NBC got called out by the FCC and network officials had to appear before Congressional committees. They blamed Mae West and banned her from NBC for many years thereafter. But why? She didn't write the skit. The writers wrote Eve as the kind of sexually aggressive character Mae West was known for portraying in the movies. Whoever hired her for the skit knew what they were getting. They blamed her because she was the easiest and safest target. And in those days, especially, it was easy to blame the woman. To borrow a British phrase, "No damned merit about it." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.|92 State Street|Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856|http://www.attorneyross.com From chris2526@comcast.net Tue Dec 11 01:42:53 2012 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:42:53 -0500 Subject: The Royal nurse suicide Message-ID: I have to believe there is more to the story of this nurse?s suicide, she must have been on the hairy edge and would have been sent over by any number of things. What the 2DAY jocks did may have been in poor taste but making fun of the Royal inbreeds is nothing new. The firing and investigation by Scotland yard is absurd, their time would be better spent reviewing Hospital privacy policies and employees with serious psychological problems. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Dec 11 03:35:24 2012 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:35:24 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20221211a_possible_switch_to_music_is_all_the_talk_around_wtkk/srvc=home&position=4 Herald article has quotes from Donna Halper, Michael Harrison. Is the talk format driving away advertisers(and listeners)? The station says they're exploring their options but no decisions have been made as of yet. From chris2526@comcast.net Tue Dec 11 05:55:10 2012 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:55:10 -0500 Subject: WTKK Message-ID: <248DF63675AA4BDC8CE2069DD362D9F4@chrisHP> In additional to the Boston Herald WCBV-TV 5 is now reporting on their 5:00 AM newscast that a format change is in the wind for Talk 96.9. Some of it may be the domain registration names which companies buy to screw up everyone heads. Wouldn?t you know its one of the few stations left that interests me. From irw@well.com Tue Dec 11 15:07:21 2012 From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:07:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Rush into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Message-ID: <1249362383.3168.1355256441876.JavaMail.root@zimbra.well.com> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hmv1N8krBCPxjCqhmviVOr2qLvxg?docId=0681ddfdc9a748968cbe0550d76def86 Excerpt: Rush, one of the most-played staples of classic rock radio, gained entry following its first appearance on the ballot. But the Canadian trio became eligible in 1998 and was repeatedly left off the list, to the great consternation of its legion of fans who cried bias against prog rock. Heart also waited a decade to make it on the ballot, gaining entry during its second appearance. After years of disappointment, then disinterest, Rush's Alex Lifeson said the band now feels "wonderful" about its entry into the hall and is especially happy for its followers. "First of all it's all water under the bridge and it was a very tiny bridge," the 59-year-old guitarist said in a phone interview from his home in Toronto. "I think our fans are more upset than we were because they feel a real bond to this band and it's been an important part of their lives in some form, and to be snubbed was snubbing them at the same time. ... Perhaps there were times when I thought if this ever happens I'm not going to bother going, or who cares or whatever, but at the end of the day positive karma is an important thing and this is an important thing to a lot of our fans and people we know." (Thanks, Donna!) - Blaine From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Dec 11 16:19:36 2012 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:19:36 -0500 Subject: Rush into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame In-Reply-To: <1249362383.3168.1355256441876.JavaMail.root@zimbra.well.com> References: <1249362383.3168.1355256441876.JavaMail.root@zimbra.well.com> Message-ID: <50C7A368.1010308@donnahalper.com> On 12/11/2012 3:07 PM, Blaine Thompson wrote: > http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hmv1N8krBCPxjCqhmviVOr2qLvxg?docId=0681ddfdc9a748968cbe0550d76def86 > Well, some of us have worked for years to get this injustice corrected. I am so pleased that finally Rush will get inducted. Three of the nicest human beings you could ever meet and success has not spoiled them at all. From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Dec 11 23:24:26 2012 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:24:26 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> On 12/11/2012 3:35 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20221211a_possible_switch_to_music_is_all_the_talk_around_wtkk/srvc=home&position=4 > > Herald article has quotes from Donna Halper, Michael Harrison. Is the > talk format driving away advertisers(and listeners)? The station says > they're exploring their options but no decisions have been made as of Donna's a "talk radio consultant?" -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.|92 State Street|Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856|http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Dec 12 01:53:43 2012 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 01:53:43 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: 96.9 has had a 13 year run of mediocrity with talk. If they flip tomorrow there will be little outrage. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 11:24 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 12/11/2012 3:35 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > > http://bostonherald.com/news/**regional/view/20221211a_** >> possible_switch_to_music_is_**all_the_talk_around_wtkk/srvc=** >> home&position=4 >> >> Herald article has quotes from Donna Halper, Michael Harrison. Is the >> talk format driving away advertisers(and listeners)? The station says >> they're exploring their options but no decisions have been made as of >> > > Donna's a "talk radio consultant?" > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.|92 State Street|Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856|http://www.attorneyross.**com > > From bob.bosra@demattia.net Wed Dec 12 07:58:16 2012 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:58:16 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: It's not about the format, it's the content. Using only one locally originated show, WXTK still pulls a 12+ rating in their market. Whether you agree or disagree with the hosts, 'TKK certainly had a far more compelling line-up 5 years ago then they do now. Eagle and Braudie used to have their idle banter limited to a one-hour segment from 12 to 1, now they own the morning. The comedic antics of Barnicle and Lobel in late morning was replaced with Doug ("Who the heck is he?") Meehan. While Severin certainly was a loud-mouth (putting it nicely), he was getting the ratings until he went over the edge. No one can blame station management for canning him, but Michael Graham, who replaced him, seems most of the time to be focused on trivial local issues. He'll spend an entire show talking about how some local selectman has it in for his neighbor's pet goat. When Graham first came to the station his topics were at a much higher level. I don't know who made the call to change the overall range of topics, but it doesn't seem like that was a good idea. Curiously, RKO has a 3.2 shared to TKK's 2.8 - RKO finally overtook them in November. Should I note that TALK1200 went from a 1.4 to a 0.6 since they went to all-comedy? On the music side, KISS, JMN, and AMP pull a combined 17.2 with KISS and JMN taking most of it and AMP a distant third (and actually below TKK's ratings). I know, I know, it's about demographics - but does TKK really think it can do better going urban? -Bob On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > 96.9 has had a 13 year run of mediocrity with talk. > > If they flip tomorrow there will be little outrage. > > > > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 11:24 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > >> On 12/11/2012 3:35 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: >> >> http://bostonherald.com/news/**regional/view/20221211a_** >>> possible_switch_to_music_is_**all_the_talk_around_wtkk/srvc=** >>> home&position=4 >>> >>> Herald article has quotes from Donna Halper, Michael Harrison. Is the >>> talk format driving away advertisers(and listeners)? The station says >>> they're exploring their options but no decisions have been made as of >>> >> >> Donna's a "talk radio consultant?" >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D.|92 State Street|Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 >> 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856|http://www.attorneyross.**com >> >> From marklaurence@mac.com Wed Dec 12 09:18:33 2012 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Laurence Kranich) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:18:33 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Ratings problems for all of Boston's talk stations tanked when PPMs entered the market. With diaries, Severin had been contending for first place in PM drive, and suddenly he dropped out of the top 10. Similar drops occurred across the format. Does this mean that fans of the shows had been exaggerating their time spent listening in diaries? Are people who carry meters more likely to favor music formats? Maybe. I thought from the start that the most radical "black helicopter" types would fear that the meters were invading their privacy and refuse to carry them, and this might work against some talk formats. But most likely, the PPMs are better at measuring what real-life, button-pushing, casual (and forgetful) radio listeners are choosing, not what a smaller minority used to scrawl in a diary. On Dec 12, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Bob DeMattia wrote: > It's not about the format, it's the content. Using only one locally > originated show, > WXTK still pulls a 12+ rating in their market. From bob.bosra@demattia.net Wed Dec 12 10:20:29 2012 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:20:29 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: A-ha. And they aren't using the PPM in the Cape Cod market. Bad news for WXTK when they do. -Bob On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Laurence Kranich wrote: > Ratings problems for all of Boston's talk stations tanked when PPMs entered the market. With diaries, Severin had been contending for first place in PM drive, and suddenly he dropped out of the top 10. Similar drops occurred across the format. > > Does this mean that fans of the shows had been exaggerating their time spent listening in diaries? Are people who carry meters more likely to favor music formats? Maybe. I thought from the start that the most radical "black helicopter" types would fear that the meters were invading their privacy and refuse to carry them, and this might work against some talk formats. > > But most likely, the PPMs are better at measuring what real-life, button-pushing, casual (and forgetful) radio listeners are choosing, not what a smaller minority used to scrawl in a diary. > > On Dec 12, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Bob DeMattia wrote: > >> It's not about the format, it's the content. Using only one locally >> originated show, >> WXTK still pulls a 12+ rating in their market. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 12 11:07:56 2012 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:07:56 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Interesting theories and facts. I saw an article Jessica Heslam did in the Herald back in August of 2007 that wondered if Howie would be "the 7 million dollar man" at WTKK, where he was trying to jump to. It detailed his base salary would be maybe 3 or 4 million over a 5 year contract and it could be up to 7 million with incentive performance bonuses. He wound up staying at WRKO of course. Deals for Carr and Severin were lucrative. RKO tried to lure Eagan and Braude away but they stayed. It looked like those talk stations were paying big bucks and getting good results. What happened? (I'll add that yes, WTKK went down when they got rid of Severin but when Jay turned up at WXKS, 96.9 quickly put Graham on opposite him (rather than Meehan) to counter-program.) Maybe it's all the PPMs. Anyway Radio Insight finds that whomever is registering these domain names just did 18 more. Decoys http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/netgnomes/79932/whos-dropping-a-beat-into-boston/ Lance Venta says, "This is a usual occurrence we see whenever we first break word of a pending format change, as the company attempts to create decoys to prevent competitors from figuring out their future plans. " Among them: Sports969, 969TheBunker, 969TheTalkOfBoston, Now969, ClassicRockThatReallyRocks (yeah make it longer willya? People love typing out long URLs!), JackFM969, NewsBoston969, Oldies969... From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 12 11:10:49 2012 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:10:49 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Also note that while WXKS AM may have gone from 1.4 to 0.6 in one demo, they are paying no salaries (I would think, or maybe one?) as comedy. As talk they had two local hosts, etc. Cheap Channel saving money and getting a lower rating. From rbello@belloassoc.com Wed Dec 12 11:22:34 2012 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:22:34 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Maybe not so bad for WXTK as the Cape population is older (average age older than Florida) which tends to "listen" more at home. Suspect a lot of this listening is background noise while doing something else at home. On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Bob DeMattia wrote: > A-ha. And they aren't using the PPM in the Cape Cod market. Bad news > for WXTK when they do. > > -Bob > > From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Dec 12 11:26:03 2012 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:26:03 -0500 Subject: Donna on Canadian TV Message-ID: Donna Halper was interviewed this morning by CTV about 'Rush' http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?binId=1.811512 From ssmyth@psualum.com Wed Dec 12 11:07:36 2012 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:07:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <1355328456.37955.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Laurence writes: >But most likely, the PPMs are better at measuring what real-life, button-pushing, casual (and forgetful) radio listeners are choosing, not what a smaller minority used to scrawl in a diary. Figuring Arbitron doesn't give out specific numbers of those sampled, or those may be embargoed ... but in what ratio do PPMs outnumber diaries?? From bob.bosra@demattia.net Wed Dec 12 12:09:27 2012 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:09:27 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: > Also note that while WXKS AM may have gone from 1.4 to 0.6 in one > demo, they are paying no salaries (I would think, or maybe one?) as > comedy. As talk they had two local hosts, etc. Cheap Channel saving > money and getting a lower rating. I wonder if they had kept their talk and had gone all syndicated if their ratings would be better. What's the cost for them to put on a Premiere host if that host isn't already being sold to some other station in the market? Bob From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 12 12:30:17 2012 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:30:17 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: WXKS AM could have let Rush and Coast 2 Coast go to RKO and perhaps run a morning show (Quinn and Rose, Imus, Bob Bennett) from a syndicator and carried Beck, Hannity, etc. (Levin went to RKO after Savage left TRN)...perhaps other hosts like John Gibson from Fox Talk Radio (noon slot, up against Premiere's own Rush on RKO), and they would have saved money by cutting Katz and Severin, which they did do. I don't know if WTKK would stay talk and go mostly syndie to save money--I could see them poss. keeping either E&B or Graham...but if they went all syndie (stayed talk but got rid of local hosts) there are a bunch available, see above...and Laura Ingraham is due to re-launch soon via a different syndicator. However if they plan to go after younger audiences, shows like these may not be the way. From dave@skywaves.net Wed Dec 12 11:53:44 2012 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:53:44 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <002e01cdd889$3fc35ee0$bf4a1ca0$@skywaves.net> I kept a diary years ago. The diary system, of course, measures whatever the diarists record. Most record their listening as faithfully as they can. But they are often driving or not in a position to record as they go for some other reason, so at best the diary is of a memory of the listening. Sometimes they mess up the call signs or positioners, and the wrong station gets the credit. It is not a perfect system, by any means. PPM measures exposure. So in addition to your willful listening, when you are walking through a mall or standing in line at a donut shop, if they have encoded music in the background, the PPM will pick likely it up, sometimes when you're not even aware of the music. It is that sensitive. In some cases, there is intentional over-reporting in diaries, but that's the exception. It may be that the ratings shift in PPM away from talk indicates that was more prevalent for listeners of that format. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Laurence Kranich Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:19 AM To: Bob DeMattia Cc: Boston Radio Interest Mailing List Subject: Re: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? Ratings problems for all of Boston's talk stations tanked when PPMs entered the market. With diaries, Severin had been contending for first place in PM drive, and suddenly he dropped out of the top 10. Similar drops occurred across the format. Does this mean that fans of the shows had been exaggerating their time spent listening in diaries? Are people who carry meters more likely to favor music formats? Maybe. I thought from the start that the most radical "black helicopter" types would fear that the meters were invading their privacy and refuse to carry them, and this might work against some talk formats. But most likely, the PPMs are better at measuring what real-life, button-pushing, casual (and forgetful) radio listeners are choosing, not what a smaller minority used to scrawl in a diary. On Dec 12, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Bob DeMattia wrote: > It's not about the format, it's the content. Using only one locally > originated show, WXTK still pulls a 12+ rating in their market. From map@mapinternet.com Wed Dec 12 12:38:21 2012 From: map@mapinternet.com (M. Casey) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:38:21 -0500 Subject: Congratulations to Donna, re: Rush into R&R Hall of Fame In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01FC63C0AF6E4D7A838BC0A0C5510AAA@CASEYPC> Congratulations, Mark Casey, K1MAP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:26 AM Subject: Donna on Canadian TV Donna Halper was interviewed this morning by CTV about 'Rush' http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?binId=1.811512 From dave@skywaves.net Wed Dec 12 14:02:59 2012 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:02:59 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: <1355328456.37955.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> <1355328456.37955.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003901cdd89b$4da96510$e8fc2f30$@skywaves.net> There are fewer PPM units than there were diary keepers. Maybe half as many in Providence, but that might depend on the market. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Sean Smyth Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:08 AM To: Laurence Kranich Cc: Boston Radio Interest Mailing List Subject: Re: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? Laurence writes: >But most likely, the PPMs are better at measuring what real-life, button-pushing, casual (and forgetful) radio listeners are choosing, not what a smaller minority used to scrawl in a diary. Figuring Arbitron doesn't give out specific numbers of those sampled, or those may be embargoed ... but in what ratio do PPMs outnumber diaries?? From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Dec 12 14:28:24 2012 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:28:24 -0500 Subject: Congratulations to Donna, re: Rush into R&R Hall of Fame In-Reply-To: <01FC63C0AF6E4D7A838BC0A0C5510AAA@CASEYPC> References: <01FC63C0AF6E4D7A838BC0A0C5510AAA@CASEYPC> Message-ID: <50C8DAD8.5000702@donnahalper.com> There is also some nostalgia about this entire thing: my discovery of Rush happened at a time when announcers still picked some of their own music, and when program directors & music directors could break new music, without endless focus groups and some guy from corporate saying not to take the chance. These days, I doubt I could do any of what I was able to do for Rush. From lsochrin@rcn.com Wed Dec 12 16:25:44 2012 From: lsochrin@rcn.com (Larry Sochrin) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:25:44 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77E3CCDE-8C54-4237-B725-DA8BA6BA5DAF@rcn.com> I'd personally miss John Batchelor's Show on 96.9, the most intelligent and educational program currently on radio at late night. From bob.bosra@demattia.net Wed Dec 12 18:28:00 2012 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:28:00 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: <77E3CCDE-8C54-4237-B725-DA8BA6BA5DAF@rcn.com> References: <77E3CCDE-8C54-4237-B725-DA8BA6BA5DAF@rcn.com> Message-ID: WABC has it at 11pm each night. Their signal stills comes booming in after the sun goes down. If you are south of Boston, you might be able to pick it up on WPRV AM/790 out of Providence at 9pm. On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Larry Sochrin wrote: > > I'd personally miss John Batchelor's Show on 96.9, the most intelligent and educational program currently on radio at late night. From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 13 02:35:36 2012 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 02:35:36 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <50C98548.5050204@attorneyross.com> On 12/12/2012 11:10 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > Also note that while WXKS AM may have gone from 1.4 to 0.6 in one > demo, they are paying no salaries (I would think, or maybe one?) as > comedy. As talk they had two local hosts, etc. Cheap Channel saving > money and getting a lower rating. Are they paying royalties to ASCAP and BMI? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.|92 State Street|Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856|http://www.attorneyross.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Dec 13 08:17:20 2012 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:17:20 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: <50C98548.5050204@attorneyross.com> References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> <50C98548.5050204@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Ever a talk station pays music licensing royalities.. alot less, but they pay them. Paul On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:35 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 12/12/2012 11:10 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > > Also note that while WXKS AM may have gone from 1.4 to 0.6 in one >> demo, they are paying no salaries (I would think, or maybe one?) as >> comedy. As talk they had two local hosts, etc. Cheap Channel saving >> money and getting a lower rating. >> > > Are they paying royalties to ASCAP and BMI? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.|92 State Street|Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856|http://www.attorneyross.**com > > From ssmyth@psualum.com Thu Dec 13 08:31:05 2012 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 05:31:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> <50C98548.5050204@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <1355405465.41030.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Paul Walker wrote: > Ever a talk station pays music licensing royalities.. alot less, but they > pay them. I think he was asking if comedy routines are subject to broadcast royalties. Are they? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Dec 13 11:07:00 2012 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:07:00 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: <1355405465.41030.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> <50C98548.5050204@attorneyross.com> <1355405465.41030.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: They may have to if they're taken off comedy albums, which many may be. In some cases they may have stuff from HBO specials, etc. I'll note that AFAIK they don't play novelty SONGS which would def. trigger royalties. As far as I know, Weird Al, Cletus T. Judd (country song parodist), and other Dr Demento faves are not on 1200. On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > Paul Walker wrote: >> Ever a talk station pays music licensing royalities.. alot less, but they >> pay them. > > > I think he was asking if comedy routines are subject to broadcast royalties. Are they? From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 13 12:07:00 2012 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:07:00 -0500 Subject: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! Message-ID: <900B4EAF9F1341DB951B8CBD1A34EDB9@SatU205S5044> Last night from 2:00 to 3:00AM, I had quite a choice of weired stuff--and I'm not even counting the program (repeats of Danny Stiles Music Museum) that is hosted by a dead guy (Stiles) on WRCA 1330. On WGBH 89.7 I could listen to host Marc Maron interview comedian Louis CK on Maron's Web-based program, WTF, which is rebroadcast on Public Radio Remix, now heard overnights on WGBH. The subject was the period of about four years in CK's life when just about everything fell completely apart. On WBZ, the fill-in host was a woman. (I think her name is Jenn Graham, but I'm not sure. She swallows her words so badly it was hard to tell.) Anyhow, she was talking about how, after they die, she cannot bring herself to bury or cremate her pets (and she has had many--including not only cats and dogs, but also squirrels and hamsters, among other species). Maybe I missed the description of how she preserves the carcasses, but I don't think so and I wonder how the hell she has managed to avoid being overcome by the odor. Finally, there was the usual assortment of comics on WXKS (AM) 1200, where your almost never more than a few minutes away from a comic monologue, a few of which are genuinely funny but almost all are weired. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Dec 13 12:44:45 2012 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:44:45 -0500 Subject: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! In-Reply-To: <900B4EAF9F1341DB951B8CBD1A34EDB9@SatU205S5044> References: <900B4EAF9F1341DB951B8CBD1A34EDB9@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: The woman on WBZ was probably Jen Brien who had been on WRKO for awhile and also was on WXTK I think. Longshot, it could been Jennifer Graham-- ex-wife of Michael Graham, who is a writer, and maybe she's trying radio--but I'm pretty sure it was Jen Brien (pronounced bree-EN). This is one reason why my car stereo (I'm driving home about that time) has XM Satellite radio. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 13 14:38:10 2012 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:38:10 -0500 Subject: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! References: <900B4EAF9F1341DB951B8CBD1A34EDB9@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <6D1DE0A14B004DFEA61028B971EB501B@SatU205S5044> Did I really hear her correctly--that she is living in a house where she is surrounded by a bunch of unburied, uncremated animal corpses? If so, I'm not sure why I (or most anybody else) would want to meet her. That is really weired! ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! > The woman on WBZ was probably Jen Brien who had been on WRKO for > awhile and also was on WXTK I think. Longshot, it could been Jennifer > Graham-- ex-wife of Michael Graham, who is a writer, and maybe she's > trying radio--but I'm pretty sure it was > Jen Brien (pronounced bree-EN). > > This is one reason why my car stereo (I'm driving home about that time) > has XM > Satellite radio. From gary@garysicecream.com Thu Dec 13 16:43:40 2012 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:43:40 -0500 Subject: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! In-Reply-To: <6D1DE0A14B004DFEA61028B971EB501B@SatU205S5044> References: <900B4EAF9F1341DB951B8CBD1A34EDB9@SatU205S5044> <6D1DE0A14B004DFEA61028B971EB501B@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <00e201cdd97a$eb176970$c1463c50$@garysicecream.com> I'm curious......could all you guys give me an idea of what you'd like to hear on late nite/overnite radio. Locally produced. Gary Francis -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:38 PM To: Bob Nelson Cc: Boston Radio Interest Subject: Re: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! Did I really hear her correctly--that she is living in a house where she is surrounded by a bunch of unburied, uncremated animal corpses? If so, I'm not sure why I (or most anybody else) would want to meet her. That is really weired! ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! > The woman on WBZ was probably Jen Brien who had been on WRKO for > awhile and also was on WXTK I think. Longshot, it could been Jennifer > Graham-- ex-wife of Michael Graham, who is a writer, and maybe she's > trying radio--but I'm pretty sure it was > Jen Brien (pronounced bree-EN). > > This is one reason why my car stereo (I'm driving home about that time) > has XM > Satellite radio. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 13 19:30:00 2012 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:30:00 -0500 Subject: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! References: <900B4EAF9F1341DB951B8CBD1A34EDB9@SatU205S5044> <6D1DE0A14B004DFEA61028B971EB501B@SatU205S5044> <00e201cdd97a$eb176970$c1463c50$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: I think Public Radio Remix is OK but I have the feeling that it will not age well. I think that Comedy 24/7 is OK for what it is but is handicapped by the need to appeal to a demographic that is about 60 years younger than I am. Longer bits would be helpful--especially in the overnights--along with much less emphasis on drugs and aberrant sex. I think the current state of WBZ overnight is both a travesty and a tragedy. The program needs one host and not any of the ones BZ has tried. Of those that WBZ has brought in, my preference is for Bradley Jay (or is that J or Jaye?--I don't think he has ever said how he spells it). As far as I can tell, my preference is not shared by anybody who has posted to the BZ overnight thread at RadioInfo.com. Most of the posters seem to virulently oppose Bradley. Could be the age difference again, but I don't know. I'm also concerned that Bradley doesn't have what it takes to do five hours a night five nights a week for much longer than, say, five weeks. He doesn't appear to do much pre-show prep and I think that a lot of prep is essential to making the show compelling. Given my politics, I'm sure it's no surprise that I think Todd Feinburg would be the absolutely worst possible choice--although I do have to give Todd credit for proper use of the English language, which is really rare in talk radio today. I wonder whether he might at some point have taught English in junior high or high school. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary's Ice Cream" To: "'Dan.Strassberg'" ; "'Bob Nelson'" Cc: "'Boston Radio Interest'" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:43 PM Subject: RE: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! > I'm curious......could all you guys give me an idea of what you'd like to > hear on late nite/overnite radio. Locally produced. > > Gary Francis > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf > Of > Dan.Strassberg > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:38 PM > To: Bob Nelson > Cc: Boston Radio Interest > Subject: Re: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! > > Did I really hear her correctly--that she is living in a house where she > is > surrounded by a bunch of unburied, uncremated animal corpses? If so, I'm > not > sure why I (or most anybody else) would want to meet her. That is really > weired! > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Nelson" > To: "Dan.Strassberg" > Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" > > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:44 PM > Subject: Re: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! > > >> The woman on WBZ was probably Jen Brien who had been on WRKO for >> awhile and also was on WXTK I think. Longshot, it could been Jennifer >> Graham-- ex-wife of Michael Graham, who is a writer, and maybe she's >> trying radio--but I'm pretty sure it was >> Jen Brien (pronounced bree-EN). >> >> This is one reason why my car stereo (I'm driving home about that time) >> has XM >> Satellite radio. > > From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Dec 13 20:27:47 2012 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:27:47 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> <50C98548.5050204@attorneyross.com> <1355405465.41030.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Dec 13, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > They may have to if they're taken off comedy albums, which many may > be. In some cases > they may have stuff from HBO specials, etc. I'll note that AFAIK they > don't play novelty > SONGS which would def. trigger royalties. As far as I know, Weird Al, > Cletus T. Judd (country > song parodist), and other Dr Demento faves are not on 1200. > Ya mean no Allan Sherman? (Sigh!) Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Dec 14 00:01:52 2012 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 00:01:52 -0500 Subject: Bob Lobel returns Re: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! Message-ID: Lobie is doing the overnight on BZ ( Friday morning ) On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I think Public Radio Remix is OK but I have the feeling that it will not > age > well. I think that Comedy 24/7 is OK for what it is but is handicapped by > the need to appeal to a demographic that is about 60 years younger than I > am. Longer bits would be helpful--especially in the overnights--along with > much less emphasis on drugs and aberrant sex. I think the current state of > WBZ overnight is both a travesty and a tragedy. The program needs one host > and not any of the ones BZ has tried. Of those that WBZ has brought in, my > preference is for Bradley Jay (or is that J or Jaye?--I don't think he has > ever said how he spells it). As far as I can tell, my preference is not > shared by anybody who has posted to the BZ overnight thread at > RadioInfo.com. Most of the posters seem to virulently oppose Bradley. Could > be the age difference again, but I don't know. I'm also concerned that > Bradley doesn't have what it takes to do five hours a night five nights a > week for much longer than, say, five weeks. He doesn't appear to do much > pre-show prep and I think that a lot of prep is essential to making the > show > compelling. Given my politics, I'm sure it's no surprise that I think Todd > Feinburg would be the absolutely worst possible choice--although I do have > to give Todd credit for proper use of the English language, which is really > rare in talk radio today. I wonder whether he might at some point have > taught English in junior high or high school. > > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary's Ice Cream" < > gary@garysicecream.com> > To: "'Dan.Strassberg'" ; "'Bob Nelson'" > > > Cc: "'Boston Radio Interest'" > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:43 PM > Subject: RE: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! > > > > I'm curious......could all you guys give me an idea of what you'd like to >> hear on late nite/overnite radio. Locally produced. >> >> Gary Francis >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@**tsornin.BostonRadio.org >> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-**bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.**org] >> On Behalf >> Of >> Dan.Strassberg >> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:38 PM >> To: Bob Nelson >> Cc: Boston Radio Interest >> Subject: Re: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! >> >> Did I really hear her correctly--that she is living in a house where she >> is >> surrounded by a bunch of unburied, uncremated animal corpses? If so, I'm >> not >> sure why I (or most anybody else) would want to meet her. That is really >> weired! >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bob Nelson" >> To: "Dan.Strassberg" >> Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" >> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:44 PM >> Subject: Re: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! >> >> >> The woman on WBZ was probably Jen Brien who had been on WRKO for >>> awhile and also was on WXTK I think. Longshot, it could been Jennifer >>> Graham-- ex-wife of Michael Graham, who is a writer, and maybe she's >>> trying radio--but I'm pretty sure it was >>> Jen Brien (pronounced bree-EN). >>> >>> This is one reason why my car stereo (I'm driving home about that time) >>> has XM >>> Satellite radio. >>> >> >> >> > From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 14 01:07:33 2012 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:07:33 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: <1355405465.41030.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> <50C98548.5050204@attorneyross.com> <1355405465.41030.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50CAC225.3030409@attorneyross.com> On 12/13/2012 8:31 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > I think he was asking if comedy routines are subject to broadcast > royalties. Are they? I think I was. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.|92 State Street|Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856|http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 14 01:13:57 2012 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:13:57 -0500 Subject: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! In-Reply-To: References: <900B4EAF9F1341DB951B8CBD1A34EDB9@SatU205S5044> <6D1DE0A14B004DFEA61028B971EB501B@SatU205S5044> <00e201cdd97a$eb176970$c1463c50$@garysicecream.com> Message-ID: <50CAC3A5.6090404@attorneyross.com> On 12/13/2012 7:30 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > although I do have > to give Todd credit for proper use of the English language, which is > really > rare in talk radio today. I wonder whether he might at some point have > taught English in junior high or high school. It's rare everywhere. This evening I heard a reporter on WBZ say that MacAfee had asked the State Department to "expediate" his girl friend's application for a visa to enter the US. And the typing and spelling errors on the crawl at the bottom of the screen on news channels are legion, especially on NECN. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.|92 State Street|Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856|http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Dec 14 02:40:00 2012 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 02:40:00 -0500 Subject: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! In-Reply-To: <50CAC3A5.6090404@attorneyross.com> References: <900B4EAF9F1341DB951B8CBD1A34EDB9@SatU205S5044> <6D1DE0A14B004DFEA61028B971EB501B@SatU205S5044> <00e201cdd97a$eb176970$c1463c50$@garysicecream.com> <50CAC3A5.6090404@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Now we have Bob Lobel doing sex talk at 2:30 AM :) On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:13 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 12/13/2012 7:30 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > > although I do have >> to give Todd credit for proper use of the English language, which is >> really >> rare in talk radio today. I wonder whether he might at some point have >> taught English in junior high or high school. >> > > It's rare everywhere. This evening I heard a reporter on WBZ say that > MacAfee had asked the State Department to "expediate" his girl friend's > application for a visa to enter the US. > > And the typing and spelling errors on the crawl at the bottom of the > screen on news channels are legion, especially on NECN. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.|92 State Street|Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 > 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856|http://www.attorneyross.**com > > From billohno@gmail.com Fri Dec 14 09:36:06 2012 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:36:06 -0500 Subject: Late-night radio is REALLY getting weird! In-Reply-To: <50CAC3A5.6090404@attorneyross.com> References: <900B4EAF9F1341DB951B8CBD1A34EDB9@SatU205S5044> <6D1DE0A14B004DFEA61028B971EB501B@SatU205S5044> <00e201cdd97a$eb176970$c1463c50$@garysicecream.com> <50CAC3A5.6090404@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: The written gaffes have become verbal gaffes. (Although they're not gaffes if the author is intentional yet wrong.) Risking curmudgeon mode, our kids in school were not marked-down for spelling. We were marked down for poor pronunciation. Bill O'Neill PS. No lost irony on the fact that my posting here from a phone results in grammatical and formatic failure... A Joseph Ross wrote: >On 12/13/2012 7:30 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >It's rare everywhere. This evening I heard a reporter on WBZ say that >MacAfee had asked the State Department to "expediate" his girl friend's > >application for a visa to enter the US. > >And the typing and spelling errors on the crawl at the bottom of the >screen on news channels are legion, especially on NECN. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Dec 14 11:52:41 2012 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:52:41 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: <50CAC225.3030409@attorneyross.com> References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> <50C98548.5050204@attorneyross.com> <1355405465.41030.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50CAC225.3030409@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <50CB5959.5050702@donnahalper.com> Unless they cancel the segment, which I doubt since they taped it already, I will be on "Beat the Press" tonight on channel 2, WGBH, discussing the possible format change. Wonderful media criticism show, by the way. Runs on channel 2 at 7pm and then re-airs at several other times. From Chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri Dec 14 11:33:28 2012 From: Chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:33:28 -0500 Subject: End of a Remarkable Career In-Reply-To: References: <900B4EAF9F1341DB951B8CBD1A34EDB9@SatU205S5044><6D1DE0A14B004DFEA61028B971EB501B@SatU205S5044><00e201cdd97a$eb176970$c1463c50$@garysicecream.com><50CAC3A5.6090404@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <5B44ACBC88DA4A7EBDD75223EA4724C2@IgoFamilyPC> I'd be remiss if I didn't share that Maine's Dean of Radio News hangs up his cans today (12/14/12) after SIXTY (60!) Years. Mike Audet, who started at WTVL as a 14 year old kid hosting an (unpaid) kids' news show and started on the air at age 16 on a regular basis, then worked his way around through Skowhegan, Bangor and then Portland, is calling it a day. I have to say he is one of THE most enjoyable radio guys with whom I've ever had the pleasure of working, and I've had that pleasure off-and-on over the past 33 years. I love that he was able to make a career doing what he loves, and did so with very solid roots (home, family) along the way. Mike - our mics will be that much the poorer for not sending out your dulcet tones in the years to come, buddy. It's not much, but he took a few minutes this morning to hop on with me to allow me to say thanks and farewell - here's the link: https://soundcloud.com/chuckigo/mike-audet-says-so-long-on --Chuck Igo From paul.norton@gmail.com Sun Dec 9 15:13:22 2012 From: paul.norton@gmail.com (Paul Norton) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 12:13:22 -0800 Subject: WMJX all Christmas In-Reply-To: <6A92E88071EB4FE0BB682A2E178890C5@s20035> References: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com><010301cdd61f$d880eab0$8982c010$@garysicecream.com> <012101cdd63c$8abbd5c0$a0338140$@garysicecream.com> <6A92E88071EB4FE0BB682A2E178890C5@s20035> Message-ID: <50C4F0E2.7040605@gmail.com> Don wrote: > > >> Bah Humbug! No song on any radio station should be repeated more than >> once >> a day! > > I think that thinking went the way of the MOR stations.....before Storz > found that people kept playing the same songs in the jukebox over and > over agin in Omaha (and discovered Top 40 radio!). > > ;-) I only listen in my car to the Christmas stations around this time, because the repetition kills it. At home I have the 7 volume christmas albums from WCBS that are in regular rotation around this time every year. There's something like 175 Christmas songs on there. -- Paul Norton From cohasset@frontiernet.net Sun Dec 16 08:41:42 2012 From: cohasset@frontiernet.net (Cohasset / Hippisley) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:41:42 -0500 Subject: WMJX all Christmas In-Reply-To: <50C4F0E2.7040605@gmail.com> References: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com><010301cdd61f$d880eab0$8982c010$@garysicecream.com> <012101cdd63c$8abbd5c0$a0338140$@garysicecream.com> <6A92E88071EB4FE0BB682A2E178890C5@s20035> <50C4F0E2.7040605@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Dec 9, 2012, at 3:13 PM, Paul Norton wrote: > At home I have the 7 volume christmas albums from WCBS that are in regular rotation around this time every year. There's something like 175 Christmas songs on there. In recent years my wife has rotated two dozen or so Christmas CDs, starting right after Thanksgiving. This year she simply "welds" one of our DirecTV receivers to Sonic channel 815. When my wife is out of the house, _my_ rotation is even simpler: "Blue Christmas" by Elvis, "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" by Springsteen -- both original vinyl -- and (newly added this season) a DVR capture of "Silent Night" by Gloriana. Bud Hippisley From newsltr@southstation.org Sun Dec 16 09:55:09 2012 From: newsltr@southstation.org (Larry Lovering - Newsletter) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 09:55:09 -0500 Subject: WMJX all Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <50BFABDD.2050400@gmail.com><010301cdd61f$d880eab0$8982c010$@garysicecream.com> <012101cdd63c$8abbd5c0$a0338140$@garysicecream.com> <6A92E88071EB4FE0BB682A2E178890C5@s20035> <50C4F0E2.7040605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004801cddb9d$58b70430$0a250c90$@southstation.org> I run a playlist of the music I accumulated for my Live365 station which runs about 112 hours to a small FM transmitter so we can hear it throughout the house. I also created a CD for the car with MP3s of 141 of my favorite artists/tracks and run it through the car stereo on ramdomize. -----Original Message----- From: Cohasset / Hippisley [mailto:cohasset@frontiernet.net] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:42 AM To: Boston Radio Subject: Re: WMJX all Christmas On Dec 9, 2012, at 3:13 PM, Paul Norton wrote: > At home I have the 7 volume christmas albums from WCBS that are in regular rotation around this time every year. There's something like 175 Christmas songs on there. In recent years my wife has rotated two dozen or so Christmas CDs, starting right after Thanksgiving. This year she simply "welds" one of our DirecTV receivers to Sonic channel 815. When my wife is out of the house, _my_ rotation is even simpler: "Blue Christmas" by Elvis, "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" by Springsteen -- both original vinyl -- and (newly added this season) a DVR capture of "Silent Night" by Gloriana. Bud Hippisley From lglavin@mail.com Sun Dec 16 14:50:13 2012 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:50:13 -0500 Subject: WBUR Request New Call Letters For WMVY Message-ID: <20121216195013.265070@gmx.com> From: Laurence Glavin Sent: 12/16/12 02:47 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: WBUR Request New Call Letters For WMVY I've read elsewhere that WBUR is requesting new call letters for WMVY, the Martha's Vineyard station the just purchased. After FCC approval of the sale, the station's calls will be WBUA. Sounds like one of Jim Cramer's outbursts on CNBC. Several years ago, Boston University owned channel 68 in Boston using the call letters WABU-TV; it was even the flagship station for the Red Sox at the time. Hard to believe. Maybe they should have kept it, made it non-commercial using the call letters WBUR-TV and REALLY given WGBH agita. From lglavin@mail.com Sun Dec 16 16:24:30 2012 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:24:30 -0500 Subject: Former Boston DJ Interviewed on NPR Message-ID: <20121216212430.265060@gmx.com> On NPR's "Weekend Edition/Saturday" a couple of weeks ago, they ran a segment dealing with pop icons of the record industry who were interviewed by Joe Smith, identified in the piece as a former Boston DJ. His photo appears on page 71 of Donna's book about Boston radio. Here is a link to the segment which includes audio of the interview: http:/www.npr.org/2012/12/01/166260627/a-trove-of-chats-with-music-icons-now-online From chris2526@comcast.net Mon Dec 17 00:58:32 2012 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 00:58:32 -0500 Subject: NY Post article Message-ID: <6E996421355247A19C73E4172D159754@chrisHP> The Sunday New York Post business pages had an interesting article of ridicule aimed at Madison Avenue. Boomers account for 50% of consumer sales yet less than 5% of the ad dollars target this group. Even more interesting is that within 5 years the 50 and up crowd will make up over half the population and control 70 percent of disposal income. This same group is expected to inherit $15 trillion in the next 20 years, wish someone would leave me some of this. What happens to Madison Ave when their prized demos age out abandon most of the vehicles used for marketing and newer generation cupcake no longer pays attention with little money to spend. Seems like this self absorbed incestuous group of young Madison Ave buyers need Willie Sutton to straighten them out, when asked why he robbed banks he replied........?because that?s where the money is?. The 49 plus group can be swayed...... just not quite as easy as marketing to the moron crowd. From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Dec 17 02:02:37 2012 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:02:37 -0500 Subject: NY Post article In-Reply-To: <6E996421355247A19C73E4172D159754@chrisHP> References: <6E996421355247A19C73E4172D159754@chrisHP> Message-ID: <20686.50061.469462.205082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > The Sunday New York Post business pages had an interesting article > of ridicule aimed at Madison Avenue. Boomers account for 50% of > consumer sales yet less than 5% of the ad dollars target this > group. Even more interesting is that within 5 years the 50 and up > crowd will make up over half the population and control 70 percent > of disposal income. Every year, a new crop of young people -- now with less European ancestry! -- leaves the family homestead and set out on their own. This year, by the way, was the biggest year for under-30 household formation in quite a long time. So I'd be a bit dubious about those claims. (I haven't looked at the article you mention to see what sources they use. Even the /Post/ sometimes gets it right.) What I think you'll find is that the sorts of products that retirees buy are quite different from the sorts of products young singles and new families buy: 55+ consumers have more free time for travel, and buy more luxury goods in general, whereas 25-54s buy more homes, white goods, and consumer staples, and by age 35 often have children in school, limiting leisure activities and spending. While luxury brands (Lexus, Tiffany, Patek Philippe, Nordstrom) have higher margins and can afford to buy advertising, it is the true mass-market products and the retailers that sell them (Honda, Kay Jewelers, Samsung, Target) that have higher revenues overall, to support much larger advertising buys, and these companies are targeted squarely at young consumers. > is???. The 49 plus group can be swayed...... just not quite as easy > as marketing to the moron crowd. Chris, I suggest that in your next post you try to avoid insulting the moderator. I hear he can get a little bit touchy when his mental competence is called into question. -GAWollman From lglavin@mail.com Mon Dec 17 16:14:56 2012 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:14:56 -0500 Subject: "CBS Sunday Morning" Profiles Elliott Family (BOB Elliott Family That Is) Message-ID: <20121217211456.265060@gmx.com> The telecast of "CBS Sunday Morning" that aired on the 16th veered from all-Newtown, CT coverage to include a profile of the Elliott family, that is the BOB Elliott family of "Bob and Ray" fame. Although the focus was definitely on the current generations of Elliotts in show biz, there was enough content that included video of Bob and Ray from their radio and yes TV days to be of interest here since they were so strongly identified with Bawstin. Bob is 89 and alive and well and still sounds like Wally Ballou. Here goes with a link that includes TWO forward slashes so nothing could possibly go wrong: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3445_162-57559466/the-elliotts-3-generations-of-comic-royalty/ Oh, and in case my post about Joe Smith didn't work on your computer the other day because I used just one forward slash (it still worked on my SENT file since it only "saw" everything from www. forward, but not at the BRIG archive), here it is again with the double-forward slash: http://www.npr.org/2012/12/01/166260627/a-trove-of-chats-with-music-icons-now-online This way, the link will be viewable at the archive for future generations if the world's DOESN'T end on Friday. (Fun fact: a classical ensemble called the Boston Chamber Music Society did in fact perform a piece called "Quartet for the End of Time" by composer Olivier Messiaen this past weekend). From ka3zci@yahoo.com Tue Dec 18 03:24:35 2012 From: ka3zci@yahoo.com (Robert Paine) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:24:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Christmas Message-ID: <1355819075.46397.YahooMailNeo@web160401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> We're not able to send cards this year so I thought I'd send something that has great importance to me. In light of last Friday's events, it takes on added significance and meaning. Whatever holiday you observe, may you gain comfort from this. Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Joyful Kwaanza and Happy Holidays. ? ?I Heard The Bells On Christmas Day ?? Henry Wadsworth Longfellow ? I heard the bells on Christmas Day Their old familiar carols play And wild and sweet The words repeat Of peace on earth, goodwill to men. ? I thought how, as the day had come The belfries of all Christendom Had rolled along The unbroken song Of peace on earth, goodwill to men. ? And in despair I bowed my head, ?There is no PEACE on earth,? I said. For hate is strong And mocks the song Of peace on earth, goodwill to men. ? Then pealed the bells, more loud and deep ?GOD IS NOT DEAD, NOR DOTH HE SLEEP! THE WRONG SHALL FAIL THE RIGHT PREVAIL WITH PEACE ON EARTH, GOODWILL TO MEN!? ? Till ringing, singing on its way The world revolved from night to day A voice, a chime A chant sublime Of peace on earth, goodwill to men. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Wed Dec 19 13:55:45 2012 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:55:45 -0500 Subject: Craigslist post Message-ID: <0453449BB7A9419A977C15C8E37B8E4D@s20035> OK Gang....I figured this bunch would appreciate this Craiglist post. http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/atq/3475370820.html Merry Christmas! From sids1045@aol.com Wed Dec 19 14:59:40 2012 From: sids1045@aol.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:59:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Craigslist post In-Reply-To: <0453449BB7A9419A977C15C8E37B8E4D@s20035> References: <0453449BB7A9419A977C15C8E37B8E4D@s20035> Message-ID: <8CFAC3A836BAD1F-1AA8-1EEEA@Webmail-d120.sysops.aol.com> "OK Gang....I figured this bunch would appreciate this Craiglist post.http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/atq/3475370820.htmlMerry Christmas!" I think this guy just set a new world record for making an a** of himself. From ssmyth@psualum.com Thu Dec 20 19:48:30 2012 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:48:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: 101.7 Lynn Message-ID: <1356050910.99348.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Evolution 101.7, with a dance music format, signed on today.? http://www.evolution1017.com/main.html Targeting much of the same audience as WFNX did, too. From paulranderson@charter.net Thu Dec 20 20:55:51 2012 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:55:51 -0500 Subject: 101.7 Lynn In-Reply-To: <1356050910.99348.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1356050910.99348.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <38EC42A8-66E9-4A13-9261-B0C4D4DD9F16@charter.net> On Dec 20, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Sean Smyth wrote: > Evolution 101.7, with a dance music format, signed on today. > > http://www.evolution1017.com/main.html > > > Targeting much of the same audience as WFNX did, too. Wow, 101.7 returns to a unique format! I might actually listen to this. The '80s rehash failed, huh? Paul From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Dec 20 23:29:54 2012 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:29:54 -0500 Subject: 101.7 Lynn In-Reply-To: <38EC42A8-66E9-4A13-9261-B0C4D4DD9F16@charter.net> References: <1356050910.99348.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <38EC42A8-66E9-4A13-9261-B0C4D4DD9F16@charter.net> Message-ID: The Globe is CLUELESS about radio http://www.boston.com/businessupdates/2012/12/20/clear-channel-launches-electronic-dance-music-radio-station-former-wfnx-signal/QlIPcasC4oOTIvYgpqTo0K/story.html The news ends months of speculation about what Clear Channel would do with the frequency it purchased from the Phoenix Media/Communications Group in May for $14.5 million. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Paul Anderson wrote: > > On Dec 20, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Sean Smyth wrote: > > > Evolution 101.7, with a dance music format, signed on today. > > > > http://www.evolution1017.com/main.html > > > > > > Targeting much of the same audience as WFNX did, too. > > Wow, 101.7 returns to a unique format! I might actually listen to this. The '80s rehash failed, huh? > > Paul > > From ehennessy@verizon.net Fri Dec 21 08:11:13 2012 From: ehennessy@verizon.net (Ed Hennessy) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:11:13 -0600 (CST) Subject: 101.7 Lynn Message-ID: <31907953.548175.1356095473492.JavaMail.root@vms170035> Despite CC's comment that they felt that it was time to expand to broadcast from solely internet for a dance music format, could this have also been in response to the recent spotting of several new URLs for 96.9? Would not surprise me that CC would try to steal Greater Media's thunder and switch first. It happened before with the country format switch , if I remember right (but it was Greater and someone else--Infinity? ARS?--back then). Ed Hennessy On 12/20/12, Sean Smyth wrote: Evolution 101.7, with a dance music format, signed on today. http://www.evolution1017.com/main.html Targeting much of the same audience as WFNX did, too. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 21 10:30:58 2012 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:30:58 -0500 Subject: 101.7 Lynn In-Reply-To: <31907953.548175.1356095473492.JavaMail.root@vms170035> References: <31907953.548175.1356095473492.JavaMail.root@vms170035> Message-ID: It was Fairbanks. bostonradio.org profile for WROR: "Fairbanks hoped to head off Greater Media's announced plans to flip WCDJ 96.9 to country in the summer of 1993, but Greater Media decided to push ahead, setting up a three-year fight for Boston's limited country audience." 96.9 did go country a few months later. Rumors say WODS was to flip to a Jack format but Entercom scooped them by launching Mike hours or a day before 103.3 was to change. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Ed Hennessy wrote: > Despite CC's comment that they felt that it was time to expand to broadcast from solely internet for a dance music format, could this have also been in response to the recent spotting of several new URLs for 96.9? Would not surprise me that CC would try to steal Greater Media's thunder and switch first. It happened before with the country format switch , if I remember right (but it was Greater and someone else--Infinity? ARS?--back then). > > Ed Hennessy > > > > On 12/20/12, Sean Smyth wrote: > > Evolution 101.7, with a dance music format, signed on today. > > http://www.evolution1017.com/main.html > > > Targeting much of the same audience as WFNX did, too. From aerie.ma@comcast.net Fri Dec 21 10:00:57 2012 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:00:57 -0500 Subject: 101.7 Lynn In-Reply-To: <31907953.548175.1356095473492.JavaMail.root@vms170035> References: <31907953.548175.1356095473492.JavaMail.root@vms170035> Message-ID: <003301cddf8b$fef9bbc0$fced3340$@ma@comcast.net> Clear Channel had a dance music format for a while on WSRS-HD2 targeted towards the gay audience as "Pride Radio". I don't think it's been on there for a while (WSRS fades in and out of HD where I live). I wonder if WSRS-HD2 actually may have had enough listeners that they decided that a dance music format might work in Boston. On 12/20/12, Sean Smyth wrote: Evolution 101.7, with a dance music format, signed on today. http://www.evolution1017.com/main.html Targeting much of the same audience as WFNX did, too. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Dec 21 12:03:38 2012 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:03:38 -0500 Subject: 101.7 Lynn References: <1356050910.99348.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6465746E119D4EBFBA03CCE80CC46AFD@s20035> >> Evolution 101.7, with a dance music format, signed on today. I have to think this is stunting (in the safest time of the year to stunt) for two reasons. One, to try to chase off 96.9 from doing anything rythmic. Two, doesn't this Evoilution BPM type format grab audience from Kiss and Jamn? From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Dec 21 12:57:34 2012 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:57:34 -0500 Subject: Craigslist post References: <0453449BB7A9419A977C15C8E37B8E4D@s20035> <8CFAC3A836BAD1F-1AA8-1EEEA@Webmail-d120.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/atq/3475370820.html >> "OK Gang....I figured this bunch would appreciate this Craiglist >> post.http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/atq/3475370820.html Merry >> Christmas!" > I think this guy just set a new world record for making an a** of himself. Unless of course it's an older gentlemen pulling our leg! From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Dec 21 13:06:09 2012 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:06:09 -0500 Subject: 101.7 Lynn In-Reply-To: <6465746E119D4EBFBA03CCE80CC46AFD@s20035> References: <1356050910.99348.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <6465746E119D4EBFBA03CCE80CC46AFD@s20035> Message-ID: >>> Evolution 101.7, with a dance music format, signed on today. Glenn Miller and Benny Goodman? Marimba? Tango? American Bandstand? Country line dancing? Disco? Soul Train? Waltzes? I think I make my point, it?s all dance music. But I bet this station is not playing any of the above! Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From fox893@yahoo.com Fri Dec 21 13:55:53 2012 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:55:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: 101.7 Lynn In-Reply-To: <6465746E119D4EBFBA03CCE80CC46AFD@s20035> Message-ID: <1356116153.15918.YahooMailClassic@web164006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Not really...? If they go harder (more dubstep, moombahton, and trap than normal dance/house stuff) it is a significantly different audience.? Pop dance/hip hop and electronica are too completely different things.? However, I can't see this as a big money maker, though.? It's been tried in NYC and never really did that well. Two, doesn't this Evoilution BPM type format grab audience from Kiss and Jamn? From ssmyth@psualum.com Fri Dec 21 14:21:18 2012 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:21:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: 101.7 Lynn In-Reply-To: <1356116153.15918.YahooMailClassic@web164006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <6465746E119D4EBFBA03CCE80CC46AFD@s20035> <1356116153.15918.YahooMailClassic@web164006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1356117678.50672.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Cooper writes: >Not really...? If they go harder (more dubstep, moombahton, and trap than normal dance/house stuff) it is a significantly different audience.? Pop dance/hip hop and electronica are too completely different things.? > >However, I can't see this as a big money maker, though.? It's been tried in NYC and never really did that well. > Good point. I should have said same demo: young adults, in college or post-college, who hit up clubs/bars on the weekends.? Accurate? From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Dec 21 15:50:12 2012 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:50:12 -0500 Subject: 101.7 Lynn References: <1356116153.15918.YahooMailClassic@web164006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1D59BFF886EB44A382778BA190E9D4FC@s20035> > Pop dance/hip hop and electronica are too completely different things. Well, Polka's, Big Band & Showtunes might all be completely different things. But they attract the same demographic.. From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Dec 21 19:31:27 2012 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:31:27 -0500 Subject: 101.7 Lynn In-Reply-To: <1356116153.15918.YahooMailClassic@web164006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <6465746E119D4EBFBA03CCE80CC46AFD@s20035> <1356116153.15918.YahooMailClassic@web164006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20692.65375.159815.974867@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Not really...? If they go harder (more dubstep, moombahton, and trap > than normal dance/house stuff) it is a significantly different > audience.? Pop dance/hip hop and electronica are too completely > different things.? > However, I can't see this as a big money maker, though.? It's been > tried in NYC and never really did that well. But what Clear Channel is doing has some obvious upside: It's cheap, and solidifies their hold on the young female demos (giving a city counterpart to the suburban-teenager appeal of Kiss and Jamn). If it prevents a full-B competitor to Kiss and Jamn, it could easily worth the price for them. Keep those listeners "in the family" and all. -GAWollman From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Dec 24 14:00:08 2012 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:00:08 -0500 Subject: Graham exits WTKK Message-ID: Michael Graham "has left the building" http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/113639/michael-graham-exits-wtkk Speculation continues about a format change for "News Talk 96.9". Perhaps Eagan and Braude and other shows may soon exit too, but we'll see. From chris2526@comcast.net Mon Dec 24 14:22:16 2012 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:22:16 -0500 Subject: As Paul Harvey would say....Now the rest of the story Message-ID: In an earlier post I said we will likely discover there is more to the Royal nurse suicide story than meets the eye. At 2:00 PM CBS news reported that in the past year she made two unsuccessful suicide attempts, one of them in India. From billohno@gmail.com Mon Dec 24 15:44:31 2012 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 15:44:31 -0500 Subject: As Paul Harvey would say....Now the rest of the story In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think any back story to this particular woman's life is irrelevant. Either the actions taken by the hosts were bad acts or they weren't. If the woman were alive today would the acts of the hosts have been any more acceptable? Bill O' Chris Hall wrote: >In an earlier post I said we will likely discover there is more to the >Royal nurse suicide story than meets the eye. At 2:00 PM CBS news >reported that in the past year she made two unsuccessful suicide >attempts, one of them in India. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Dec 24 16:06:14 2012 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:06:14 -0500 Subject: As Paul Harvey would say....Now the rest of the story In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And did I read somewhere correctly that the nurse that kill herself is not the one who actually gave them any information - she simple put them through to another nurse who actually did all the talking.? If you ask me, the DJ's got a bad deal. -Bob On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Bill O'Neill wrote: > I think any back story to this particular woman's life is irrelevant. > Either the actions taken by the hosts were bad acts or they weren't. If > the woman were alive today would the acts of the hosts have been any more > acceptable? > Bill O' > > Chris Hall wrote: > > >In an earlier post I said we will likely discover there is more to the > >Royal nurse suicide story than meets the eye. At 2:00 PM CBS news > >reported that in the past year she made two unsuccessful suicide > >attempts, one of them in India. > > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Dec 24 17:41:45 2012 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:41:45 -0500 Subject: local boy makes good In-Reply-To: <4FE11F8A.1090806@fybush.com> References: <4FDEA84F.2010202@attorneyross.com> <20447.54884.736107.977473@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20447.64065.936868.851541@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4FE0D76A.8080801@attorneyross.com> <4FE0EEA9.20407@attorneyross.com> <4FE11F8A.1090806@fybush.com> Message-ID: <50D8DA29.9050703@donnahalper.com> Just heard Scott Fybush reporting from Rochester for WBZ Radio. And to think I knew him when... From wilkinsmg@hotmail.com Mon Dec 24 19:23:22 2012 From: wilkinsmg@hotmail.com (Michael Wilkins) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 19:23:22 -0500 Subject: this year's compilation: Compromised Carols In-Reply-To: <50D8DA29.9050703@donnahalper.com> References: <4FDEA84F.2010202@attorneyross.com> <20447.54884.736107.977473@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20447.64065.936868.851541@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4FE0D76A.8080801@attorneyross.com> <4FE0EEA9.20407@attorneyross.com>, <4FE11F8A.1090806@fybush.com>, <50D8DA29.9050703@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: For those of you on the list that may dig some "not-your-average" Christmas tunes, I present: http://soundcloud.com/seenthat/compromisedcarols 23rd year of doing such a thing... always looking for new (old) material - all suggestions welcome for inclusion next year! Mike From billohno@gmail.com Mon Dec 24 20:25:56 2012 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:25:56 -0500 Subject: local boy makes good In-Reply-To: <50D8DA29.9050703@donnahalper.com> References: <4FDEA84F.2010202@attorneyross.com> <20447.54884.736107.977473@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20447.64065.936868.851541@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4FE0D76A.8080801@attorneyross.com> <4FE0EEA9.20407@attorneyross.com> <4FE11F8A.1090806@fybush.com> <50D8DA29.9050703@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: Way to go, Scott. BillO Donna Halper wrote: >Just heard Scott Fybush reporting from Rochester for WBZ Radio. And to > >think I knew him when... -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Dec 25 09:35:39 2012 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:35:39 -0500 Subject: local boy makes good References: <4FDEA84F.2010202@attorneyross.com> <20447.54884.736107.977473@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20447.64065.936868.851541@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4FE0D76A.8080801@attorneyross.com> <4FE0EEA9.20407@attorneyross.com><4FE11F8A.1090806@fybush.com> <50D8DA29.9050703@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <0CD998E9E7D74B839CF8FEACC0F438A0@SatU205S5044> On what local station did you hear him? I'm guessing WBZ, but given that Scott works from time to time at the NPR affiliate in Rochester, (WXXI, right?) he might also have filed a report with NPR, which means that he could have been heard locally on WBUR and/or WGBH and/or WICN. I never did keep track of whether or not WUMB carries NPR news. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Scott Fybush" Cc: Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 5:41 PM Subject: local boy makes good > Just heard Scott Fybush reporting from Rochester for WBZ Radio. And to > think I knew him when... From scott@fybush.com Tue Dec 25 09:37:45 2012 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:37:45 -0500 Subject: local boy makes good In-Reply-To: <0CD998E9E7D74B839CF8FEACC0F438A0@SatU205S5044> References: <4FDEA84F.2010202@attorneyross.com> <20447.54884.736107.977473@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20447.64065.936868.851541@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4FE0D76A.8080801@attorneyross.com> <4FE0EEA9.20407@attorneyross.com><4FE11F8A.1090806@fybush.com> <50D8DA29.9050703@donnahalper.com> <0CD998E9E7D74B839CF8FEACC0F438A0@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <50D9BA39.8030303@fybush.com> Another one of our reporters was filing for NPR yesterday, and her material was being used during their hourly newscasts and for a segment during All Things Considered. I was on 'BZ in the afternoon. On 12/25/2012 9:35 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > On what local station did you hear him? I'm guessing WBZ, but given that > Scott works from time to time at the NPR affiliate in Rochester, (WXXI, > right?) he might also have filed a report with NPR, which means that he > could have been heard locally on WBUR and/or WGBH and/or WICN. I never > did keep track of whether or not WUMB carries NPR news. From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Dec 25 10:09:15 2012 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:09:15 -0500 Subject: radiodiscussions.com again blacklisted (by Google, I believe) Message-ID: If I'm reading the "more info" page correctly, it says that a visit to radiodiscussions.com (the former radio-info.com) could result in your computer becoming infected with malware, which could harvest information from the computer and send it to an unidentified site. The last time this happened, it took a day or so before the blacklisting was removed. The malware could have been inserted by parties not connected with radiodiscussions. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Dec 25 12:34:49 2012 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:34:49 -0500 Subject: radiodiscussions.com again blacklisted (by Google, I believe) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: According to Managing Board Editor they are working on server upgrades and somehow it's being misinterpreted as being malware. Do proceed at your own risk but a. diff browser got me to the site (or clicking "proceed anyway" on Firefox or Chrome) and I got that message from the board editor. Also on my smartphone's browser I got to the site without any warning screens, just fine. On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > If I'm reading the "more info" page correctly, it says that a visit to > radiodiscussions.com (the former radio-info.com) could result in your > computer becoming infected with malware, which could harvest information > from the computer and send it to an unidentified site. The last time this > happened, it took a day or so before the blacklisting was removed. The > malware could have been inserted by parties not connected with > radiodiscussions. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Dec 25 13:05:51 2012 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:05:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Channel 21 Concord NH down to 2 subchannel while Channel 68 is up to 4 Message-ID: <1356458751.82185.YahooMailNeo@web122601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I noticed changes at Channel 21 Concord NH over the past week. The Ion Affiliate and associate of Channel 68 Boston is down to 21.1 and 21.2 with some rearranging. Most disappointing is the removal of QUBO from the lineup. Channel 68 in the meantime has added 68.4, a second IONLife channel (but labeled as ShopTV). John B New Hampshire From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Dec 26 17:36:10 2012 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:36:10 -0500 Subject: Is WHDH 7.2 switching to Cozi TV? Message-ID: Currently 7.2 (Comcast 297) is running This TV which is Chicago based. However Cozy TV is saying it is on 297 http://www.cozitv.com/get-cozi-tv/ From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Dec 26 18:12:49 2012 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:12:49 -0500 Subject: Is WHDH 7.2 switching to Cozi TV? In-Reply-To: <1356562292.21557.YahooMailNeo@web120505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1356562292.21557.YahooMailNeo@web120505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Provider Channel Comcast - Cambridge 297 is what spits out when you enter 02139 Or maybe Comcast themselves will offer it On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Maureen Carney wrote: > When I put in my zip code on that page it comes up "please contact your > cable provider". And given that Sunbeam didn't give NBC an outlet for > Universal Sports and still has some difficult relations with them I don't > see it as likely unless NBC is forcing them. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Kevin Vahey > *To:* Boston Radio Group > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:36 PM > *Subject:* Is WHDH 7.2 switching to Cozi TV? > > Currently 7.2 (Comcast 297) is running This TV which is Chicago based. > > However Cozy TV is saying it is on 297 > > http://www.cozitv.com/get-cozi-tv/ > > > From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed Dec 26 17:51:32 2012 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:51:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Is WHDH 7.2 switching to Cozi TV? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1356562292.21557.YahooMailNeo@web120505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> When I put in my zip code on that page it comes up "please contact your cable provider". And given that Sunbeam didn't give NBC an outlet for Universal Sports and still has some difficult relations with them I don't see it as likely unless NBC is forcing them. ________________________________ From: Kevin Vahey To: Boston Radio Group Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:36 PM Subject: Is WHDH 7.2 switching to Cozi TV? Currently 7.2 (Comcast 297) is running This TV which is Chicago based. However Cozy TV is saying it is on 297 http://www.cozitv.com/get-cozi-tv/ From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed Dec 26 20:01:02 2012 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:01:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Is WHDH 7.2 switching to Cozi TV? In-Reply-To: References: <1356562292.21557.YahooMailNeo@web120505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1356570062.17614.YahooMailNeo@web120505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> It doesn't when I put in 01746 (Holliston). I don't know what the deal is. I checked the WHDH web site and they still list ThisTV for 7.2 and 297. ________________________________ From: Kevin Vahey To: Maureen Carney Cc: Boston Radio Group Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Is WHDH 7.2 switching to Cozi TV? Provider Channel Comcast - Cambridge 297 is what spits out when you enter 02139? Or maybe Comcast themselves will offer it? On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Maureen Carney wrote: When I put in my zip code on that page it comes up "please contact your cable provider". And given that Sunbeam didn't give NBC an outlet for Universal Sports and still has some difficult relations with them I don't see it as likely unless NBC is forcing them. > > > >________________________________ > From: Kevin Vahey >To: Boston Radio Group >Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:36 PM >Subject: Is WHDH 7.2 switching to Cozi TV? > > >Currently 7.2 (Comcast 297) is running This TV which is Chicago based. > >However Cozy TV is saying it is on 297 > >http://www.cozitv.com/get-cozi-tv/ > > > From map@mapinternet.com Thu Dec 27 12:16:09 2012 From: map@mapinternet.com (M. Casey) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:16:09 -0500 Subject: Cozi-TV on 30-2 Hartford In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hartford's Ch. 30 dropped it's Plus Weather on 30-2 for Cozi-TV just before Christmas. Cozi-Tv 's great, but sure would like to see the weather--maybe as 30-3? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 16, Issue 303 Send Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list submissions to boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.BostonRadio.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-radio-interest or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org You can reach the person managing the list at boston-radio-interest-owner@lists.BostonRadio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Boston-Radio-Interest digest..." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: 1. Is WHDH 7.2 switching to Cozi TV? (Kevin Vahey) 2. Re: Is WHDH 7.2 switching to Cozi TV? (Kevin Vahey) 3. 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On Dec 27, 2012, at 12:16 PM, "M. Casey" wrote: > Hartford's Ch. 30 dropped it's Plus Weather on 30-2 for Cozi-TV just before > Christmas. Cozi-Tv 's great, but sure would like to see the weather--maybe > as 30-3? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 12:00 PM > Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 16, Issue 303 > > > Send Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list submissions to > boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.BostonRadio.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-radio-interest > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > boston-radio-interest-owner@lists.BostonRadio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Boston-Radio-Interest digest..." > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Is WHDH 7.2 switching to Cozi TV? (Kevin Vahey) > 2. 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(Maureen Carney) > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list > Boston-Radio-Interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > http://lists.BostonRadio.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-radio-interest > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5490 - Release Date: 12/27/12 > From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Thu Dec 27 19:37:12 2012 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Cozi-TV on 30-2 Hartford In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1356655032.74943.YahooMailNeo@web122403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> >?Larry Weil wrote: > I don't know if Ch 30 is running 1080i or 720p, but if it's the former > they can only have one SD secondary channel. > ?????? They used to run the NBC sports channel?(WVIT is an O&O) on 30.3, but NBC moved it to cable nationally. That was shortly after the 2010 Winter Olympics, IIRC. That doesn't mean, of course, they're still using 720p on 30.2. For us antenna-using Connecticuters, WFSB has a much better news/weather loop feed on 3.3, anyway. ? ?????? Given the ancient programming running on Cozi, why bother with 1080i??So far (launched Dec. 20), this channel looks like it's programmed by the department of obscurities at the museum of broadcasting. They dredged up Christmas episodes of all sorts of ancient series. How about, "Date With the Angels," a 30-minute situation comedy (sort of), starring -- wait for it -- Betty White. One season, 1957-58, on ABC -- at least according to Wikipedia (which means it might be true). ? ?????? Speaking of picture resolution, they showed (at least for Christmastime)?a lot of 1950s' British TV -- Robin?Hood-, Sherlock Holmes-type stuff. Some of it looks really grainy. I'm wondering if some of it's from kinescopes. Did Britain initially use a TV system with even fewer lines than the original U.S. standard? ? ?????? In any event, the only show I like to watch despite really bad kinescope quality -- other than to see a brief historic?sample -- probably will always remain "The Honeymooners." From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Dec 27 22:42:34 2012 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 22:42:34 -0500 Subject: Cozi-TV on 30-2 Hartford In-Reply-To: <1356655032.74943.YahooMailNeo@web122403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1356655032.74943.YahooMailNeo@web122403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20701.5418.279833.664312@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > They used to run the NBC sports channel?(WVIT is an O&O) on 30.3, > but NBC moved it to cable nationally. I think you mean Universal Sports. NBCU only owns a fraction of it (less than a controlling interest), which may explain why Comcast hasn't put it back on here in eastern Mass. > Speaking of picture resolution, they showed (at least for > Christmastime)?a lot of 1950s' British TV -- Robin?Hood-, Sherlock > Holmes-type stuff. Some of it looks really grainy. I'm wondering if > some of it's from kinescopes. Did Britain initially use a TV system > with even fewer lines than the original U.S. standard? You betcha! The historic British television standard was System A, 405 lines, interlaced, field rate 50 Hz, positive video modulation with AM audio below the lower sideband. Originally introduced in 1937 with double-sideband modulation, vestigial sideband (pioneered in the U.S.) was introduced after the War by filtering out most of the upper sideband (rather than the lower sideband as done in all other systems except the French 819-line System E, which also had to cope with positive video modulation and AM audio below the video carrier on some VHF channels). Some evidence indicates that the BBC was prepared to introduce colo(u)r television in the early 1960s using NTSC-A, but when the government decided to move television to the UHF band using the new 625i50 System I (first introduced in Ireland, but also adopted in the UK and South Africa), it was felt that adopting the German PAL color standard would provide for easier program(me) sharing with other European state broadcasters and news-gathering cooperatives. Thus, System A was never operated in color, although it could have been (the equipment was ready for testing, and the modifications to NTSC were slight). Similarly, the French System E was considered too difficult to adapt to color; both systems were phased out in the early 1980s, at which point television broadcasting on the VHF band totally ceased in Britain. The BBC and the ITA (as it then was) had operated System A on VHF and System I with PAL color on UHF in parallel for more than a decade by that point; BBC 2 and later Channel 4 would be licensed for PAL-I/UHF only. Our historic television system, for what it's worth, is System M. The Japanese used the only slightly different System J (they differ in black level and frame rate -- 30 Hz for System J vs. 29.97 Hz for System M when used with NTSC color). NTSC-M is or was used in all other countries that use 6-MHz television channels and 60 Hz electrical supplies, including South Korea, Vietnam, the Philippines, Diego Garcia, most of the Caribbean including Cuba and the Dominican Republic but not the French territories, most of Central America, Guyana, Venezuela, and western South America. Vietnam also used SECAM-M. PAL-M has only ever been used in Brazil. System N is a 625i50 system for 6-MHz channels, and is primarily used in southeastern South America, with PAL color. -GAWollman From map@mapinternet.com Fri Dec 28 14:16:30 2012 From: map@mapinternet.com (M. Casey) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:16:30 -0500 Subject: Cozi-TV Hartford/Ch3, 3-2, /and off air TV future? In-Reply-To: <1356655032.74943.YahooMailNeo@web122403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1356655032.74943.YahooMailNeo@web122403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <77544B96AFBA439CBA77DB32D829B4DE@CASEYPC> For news, I agree, but for weather info 30-2 rotation had a full screen display of the regional radar (northeast USA) and the state radar loops They were the best for an instant rain-cast. Channel 3's 3-3 weather loop doesn't compare to 30-2's pre-Christmas setup Are there any stations in the Boston market with a sub-channel for weather left on? And, channel 3 removed 3-2 a few months ago. Now many viewers in the Springfield market cannot recieve the 3-4/5 low power transmitter that is located in Wilbraham. The Avon mtn transmitter covers much better into many areas of the Springfield market with 1M watts on digital. I hope not, but it looks like off-air TV may be in trouble at some point not too far in the future. Mark Casey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Waters" For us antenna-using Connecticuters, WFSB has a much better news/weather loop feed on 3.3, anyway. From m_carney@yahoo.com Fri Dec 28 15:49:56 2012 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:49:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Cozi-TV Hartford/Ch3, 3-2, /and off air TV future? In-Reply-To: <77544B96AFBA439CBA77DB32D829B4DE@CASEYPC> References: <1356655032.74943.YahooMailNeo@web122403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <77544B96AFBA439CBA77DB32D829B4DE@CASEYPC> Message-ID: <1356727796.14968.YahooMailNeo@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> No Boston channels are running weather on a sub-channel right now. WCVB had a radar loop on 5.2 briefly in 2007-2008 and WHDH replaced 7.2 with ThisTV when NBC shut down their weather service. The thinking seems to be that the stations want eyeballs on the main channel and showing weather on a sub-channel may mean lower news ratings. From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 28 23:30:59 2012 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:30:59 -0500 Subject: Cozi-TV Hartford/Ch3, 3-2, /and off air TV future? In-Reply-To: <1356727796.14968.YahooMailNeo@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1356655032.74943.YahooMailNeo@web122403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <77544B96AFBA439CBA77DB32D829B4DE@CASEYPC> <1356727796.14968.YahooMailNeo@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50DE7203.4010904@attorneyross.com> On 12/28/2012 3:49 PM, Maureen Carney wrote: > No Boston channels are running weather on a sub-channel right now. WCVB had a radar loop on 5.2 briefly in 2007-2008 and WHDH replaced 7.2 with ThisTV when NBC shut down their weather service. The thinking seems to be that the stations want eyeballs on the main channel and showing weather on a sub-channel may mean lower news ratings. At least in Brookline, Comcast channel 245 has local weather. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.|92 State Street|Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856|http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Dec 29 15:18:26 2012 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 15:18:26 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <50DF5012.6040900@donnahalper.com> According to today's Boston Globe Names column, yes 96.9 IS going to switch over to music. But Margery and Jim are supposed to land somewhere else-- although it did not say where... From atolz@comcast.net Sat Dec 29 19:37:34 2012 From: atolz@comcast.net (Alan Tolz) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 19:37:34 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> <50DF5012.6040900@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <419222B3D07641DB92D7103722D12AEB@mediacenter> They need to go to RKO in the morning so Howie has something to get energized (read: angry) about. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Bob Nelson" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? > According to today's Boston Globe Names column, yes 96.9 IS going to > switch over to music. But Margery and Jim are supposed to land somewhere > else-- although it did not say where... > From lglavin@mail.com Wed Dec 26 14:36:42 2012 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:36:42 -0500 Subject: Channel 21 Concord NH down to 2 subchannel while Channel 68 is up to 4 Message-ID: <20121226193642.103160@gmx.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: John Bolduc >Sent: 12/25/12 01:05 PM >To: Boston Radio Interest >Subject: Channel 21 Concord NH down to 2 subchannel while Channel 68 is up to 4 >I noticed changes at Channel 21 Concord NH over the past week. The Ion Affiliate and associate of Channel 68 Boston is down to 21.1 and 21.2 with some rearranging. Most >disappointing is the removal of QUBO from the lineup. >Channel 68 in the meantime has added 68.4, a second IONLife channel (but labeled as ShopTV). >John B >New Hampshire Another shopping channel? Will Comcast be required to add it to its lineup per must-carry? They just duplicated an all-jewelry home-shopping channel to #48 that's already on a high-numbered slot around #180, and it continues there as well. It's a puzzlement why channel 48 had been kept actually vacant for so long. Just clicking the 'up' button if you were watching the Weather Channel used to take you to one of the ESPNs. Now it's the aforementioned all-jewelry channel TWICE. Grrrrr. From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Dec 29 21:56:28 2012 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 21:56:28 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: <50DF5012.6040900@donnahalper.com> References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> <50DF5012.6040900@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <50DFAD5C.6050302@attorneyross.com> On 12/29/2012 3:18 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > According to today's Boston Globe Names column, yes 96.9 IS going to > switch over to music. But Margery and Jim are supposed to land > somewhere else-- although it did not say where... I wonder what would have happened to Howie Carr if he had succeeded in leaving WRKO for WTKK. Now he'd be looking for a new station again. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D.|92 State Street|Suite 700|Boston, MA 02109-2004 617.367.0468|Fx:617.507.7856|http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Sat Dec 29 23:06:33 2012 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 23:06:33 -0500 Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: <50DFAD5C.6050302@attorneyross.com> References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> <50DF5012.6040900@donnahalper.com> <50DFAD5C.6050302@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <50DFBDC9.1000800@fybush.com> On 12/29/2012 9:56 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > On 12/29/2012 3:18 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > >> According to today's Boston Globe Names column, yes 96.9 IS going to >> switch over to music. But Margery and Jim are supposed to land >> somewhere else-- although it did not say where... > > I wonder what would have happened to Howie Carr if he had succeeded in > leaving WRKO for WTKK. Now he'd be looking for a new station again. > Howie seems to believe he'd have been the salvation of WTKK if he'd been able to move there. From scott@fybush.com Sat Dec 29 23:14:35 2012 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 23:14:35 -0500 Subject: Channel 21 Concord NH down to 2 subchannel while Channel 68 is up to 4 In-Reply-To: <20121226193642.103160@gmx.com> References: <20121226193642.103160@gmx.com> Message-ID: <50DFBFAB.90203@fybush.com> On 12/26/2012 2:36 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Another shopping channel? Will Comcast be required to add it to its > lineup per must-carry? Must-carry applies to only one program stream per must-carry station. Everything else is negotiated, and ion doesn't have the leverage to force its subchannels on cable. > They just duplicated an all-jewelry > home-shopping channel to #48 that's already on a high-numbered slot > around #180, and it continues there as well. It's a puzzlement why > channel 48 had been kept actually vacant for so long. Just clicking > the 'up' button if you were watching the Weather Channel used to take > you to one of the ESPNs. Now it's the aforementioned all-jewelry > channel TWICE. Grrrrr. Is this through a cable box, or analog cable tuned directly? Keep in mind that with digital cable, "channel numbers" are just mapping addresses that tell the box what physical channel to tune to, and those physical channels aren't even always fixed. (Google "SDV" to see how some cable systems do it.) Many of the channels that appear "vacant" in analog tuning on a modern cable system are actually being used for digital data. The 6 MHz bandwidth used by a single analog cable channel can transmit two (and sometimes three) HD digital channels or up to eight SD digital channels (even more if they're being compressed to death)...which is why cable companies are eager to end their analog service whenever possible. Back to ion: they've been trying a few things with their OTA DTV spectrum that may explain why 21 and 68 have a different complement of subchannels. In some markets, ion has been leasing some of its spectrum to a subscription service called "Airbox" aimed primarily at Hispanic consumers. I believe stations running Airbox only have two unscrambled video channels. In others, they're launching this new iShop service that has appeared (or is appearing) on 68-4. s From bob.bosra@demattia.net Sun Dec 30 00:12:58 2012 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 00:12:58 -0500 Subject: Channel 21 Concord NH down to 2 subchannel while Channel 68 is up to 4 In-Reply-To: <50DFBFAB.90203@fybush.com> References: <20121226193642.103160@gmx.com> <50DFBFAB.90203@fybush.com> Message-ID: *Scott Fybush wrote: * *Must-carry applies to only one program stream per must-carry station. Everything else is negotiated, and ion doesn't have the leverage to force its subchannels on cable.* Ion owns both 21 and 68, both in Boston DMA. As far as I've seen, only one stream is carried on cable. I would guess because the primary channel is the same on both stations. Is it just the primary stream that must be carried? If not, who decides which one subchannel is must-carry? Is there some way Ion can use both stations to get two streams carried? Perhaps using different programming on 21-1? On another related topic: Since one stream is must-carry, how does this affect the "program strikes" that seem to pop up now and then - for example when WHDH disappeared from Direct TV a few years back because Direct TV didn't want to pay Sunbeam what Ansin was asking. Is it must-carry only when the cable operator agress to pay the TV station what they are asking? It seems like the operator could get around must-carry by simply refusing to pay the asking price, no matter how low. -Bob From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Dec 30 02:32:51 2012 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 02:32:51 -0500 Subject: Channel 21 Concord NH down to 2 subchannel while Channel 68 is up to 4 In-Reply-To: References: <20121226193642.103160@gmx.com> <50DFBFAB.90203@fybush.com> Message-ID: Must carry means just that, the cable system must carry the station. There is no money exchanged, in lieu of asking the cable system to pay, a station can invoke must carry and must be carried by the cable (or satellite) system. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse the brevity. On Dec 30, 2012, at 12:12 AM, Bob DeMattia wrote: > *Scott Fybush wrote: * > *Must-carry applies to only one program stream per must-carry station. > Everything else is negotiated, and ion doesn't have the leverage to force > its subchannels on cable.* > > > Ion owns both 21 and 68, both in Boston DMA. As far as I've seen, > only one stream is carried on cable. I would guess because the > primary channel is the same on both stations. > > Is it just the primary stream that must be carried? If not, who > decides which one subchannel is must-carry? > > Is there some way Ion can use both stations to get two streams > carried? Perhaps using different programming on 21-1? > > > On another related topic: > Since one stream is must-carry, how does this affect the "program strikes" > that seem to pop up now and then - for example when WHDH disappeared > from Direct TV a few years back because Direct TV didn't want to pay > Sunbeam what Ansin was asking. Is it must-carry only when the > cable operator agress to pay the TV station what they are asking? > It seems like the operator could get around must-carry by simply refusing to > pay the asking price, no matter how low. > > -Bob From scott@fybush.com Sun Dec 30 09:20:16 2012 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 09:20:16 -0500 Subject: Channel 21 Concord NH down to 2 subchannel while Channel 68 is up to 4 In-Reply-To: References: <20121226193642.103160@gmx.com> <50DFBFAB.90203@fybush.com> Message-ID: <50E04DA0.6040807@fybush.com> On 12/30/2012 12:12 AM, Bob DeMattia wrote: > *Scott Fybush wrote: * > *Must-carry applies to only one program stream per must-carry station. > Everything else is negotiated, and ion doesn't have the leverage to force > its subchannels on cable.* > > > Ion owns both 21 and 68, both in Boston DMA. As far as I've seen, > only one stream is carried on cable. I would guess because the > primary channel is the same on both stations. > > Is it just the primary stream that must be carried? If not, who > decides which one subchannel is must-carry? In general, it's the x.1 stream. I think stations can choose another stream as their "primary" stream in theory; I'm not sure I've ever seen it done in practice. > Is there some way Ion can use both stations to get two streams > carried? Perhaps using different programming on 21-1? Not easily. Because 21 (and 58 on the Cape) are considered "satellite" stations of 68, they aren't automatically entitled to carriage throughout the Boston DMA. If it chose to do so, ion could put separate programming on 21 and 58, but at a price. First, it would have to establish separate main studios for 21 and 58, which means staffing and rent. Second, and more vexingly, ion would face pushback from cable companies. They can fight the presumption of must-carry throughout a DMA by demonstrating that the station in question does not deliver a satisfactory over-the-air signal to the cable system's headend (which the station can cure by delivering a signal by alternate means such as fiber or satellite, another cost to be factored in). They can also fight the presumption of must-carry by demonstrating to the FCC that the station has no history of cable carriage or significant viewership in the community in question. That's certainly true of 21 anywhere south of the NH/MA line, and of 58 anywhere beyond the Cape and maybe Plymouth County. It becomes an expensive fight on both sides, since these cases have to be proved (or disproved) on a town-by-town basis. And even if ion won, it would almost surely then face blowback from cable companies in NH and on the Cape trying to drop 68 from Boston on that same basis! This situation has long vexed anyone trying to serve the entire New York DMA from any station that's not right in New York City. Channel 43 in Bridgeport, Connecticut, under a variety of calls, has long struggled to enforce mandatory must-carry beyond the Connecticut part of the market. So has channel 55 from Long Island, which still has only spotty carriage in New Jersey - though that's about to change now that CBS owns it and can bundle its carriage with WCBS-TV. > On another related topic: > Since one stream is must-carry, how does this affect the "program strikes" > that seem to pop up now and then - for example when WHDH disappeared > from Direct TV a few years back because Direct TV didn't want to pay > Sunbeam what Ansin was asking. Is it must-carry only when the > cable operator agress to pay the TV station what they are asking? > It seems like the operator could get around must-carry by simply refusing to > pay the asking price, no matter how low. As Larry notes, must-carry is must-carry. If you elect that option (stations make the choice every two years), you are guaranteed a spot on cable (on your virtual channel number or a lower position, or a mutually-agreed other channel) but you don't get any money from the cable system. It's only if you make the other choice - "retransmission consent" - that you get to negotiate with the cable or satellite company. If you can strike a deal, you get carried. If you can't, you don't. The decision about which path to take is generally dictated by how desirable your programming is. If you're a CBS/NBC/ABC/Fox affiliate and you know that your programming is important to cable subscribers, you generally go for retrans consent and try to strike a deal, knowing the cable company will also suffer if it can't come to terms with you. If you're WBPX or WNEU or WWDP, you take the must-carry and run. And if you're WSBK or WLVI, you go for "retrans consent" that's tied in with your bigger and more desirable parent station, WBZ-TV or WHDH-TV. Whatever deal CBS reaches with cable for 4 also includes 38, and the deal for 7 includes 56. (This is also how subchannels get on cable: whatever deal Hearst strikes with Comcast to keep WCVB/WMUR on cable will also include MeTV on 5.2/9.2, for instance. In some cases, stations owned by companies that also own cable networks will try to bundle carriage negotiations for both, so Fox might try to tie carriage of FX into its negotiations for WFXT.) From ssmyth@psualum.com Sun Dec 30 10:28:18 2012 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 07:28:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Will 96.9 "Beat" up news-talk to go to music? In-Reply-To: <50DFBDC9.1000800@fybush.com> References: <50C806FA.5050708@attorneyross.com> <50DF5012.6040900@donnahalper.com> <50DFAD5C.6050302@attorneyross.com> <50DFBDC9.1000800@fybush.com> Message-ID: <1356881298.91787.YahooMailNeo@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Scott wrote:? >Howie seems to believe he'd have been the salvation of WTKK if he'd been >able to move there. If Greater signed Howie to a long-term deal, I imagine they would have not been eager to eat that money. No company would be.? From lglavin@mail.com Sun Dec 30 16:30:30 2012 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:30:30 -0500 Subject: Should WSMN-AM's CP Have Expired By Now? Message-ID: <20121230213031.95280@gmx.com> Just out of idle curiosity, I tuned my AM radio that displays relative signal strength to check out WSMN-AM 1590 in Nashua, NH. It seemed to me that Absolute Broadcasting had acquired an approval from the FCC for extra time to build out its 5K DA-2 until sometime in 2012, which is ending very shortly. I did it at around noon when there was maximum solar effectiveness in squelching AMs with shorter wavelengths, but WSMN was as weak as ever. It's now well past construction season so it would appear that they either petition to run about 200 watts NDA permanently or try for another extension. The verbiage in the last piece of correspondence I could find included protestations that the owners were doing their utmost to get the authorized facility on the air. Can they do this in 2013 again? And speaking about AMs in the 14s and 15s: the removal of WDCD-AM 1540 in Albany, NY has helped Exter, NH's WXEX-AM 1540 to be heard for several miles right after sunrise these mornings whereas in previous winters, if you tuned to 1540 around here, you got preachers from WDCD. From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Dec 31 09:00:05 2012 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:00:05 -0500 Subject: Should WSMN-AM's CP Have Expired By Now? References: <20121230213031.95280@gmx.com> Message-ID: <43E51C4865B34A248ECC3F6DA1CF8EC0@SatU205S5044> As I understand it, an AM that fails to construct a CP before the CP expires has two options: 1) have the CP tolled or 2) have the CP cancelled and apply for a new CP with the same facilities specified in the expired CP. Tolling can be granted if an applicant can demonstrate to the FCC's satisfaction that construction was not completed for reasons beyond the permittee's control. Tolling, in essence, resets the clock to a time prior to expiration of the CP and then stops the clock. I believe (but do not know for sure) that WSMN's current STA (diplexed with WGHM) specifies a daytime power lower than 250W with an antenna of minimum Class D AM efficiency. IOW, the inverse-distance (ID) field must exceed 141.85 mV/m @ 1 km. If that value cannot be exceeded without causing prohibited overlap with another station, then WSMN would not be eligible for a license to operate as a ND Class D AM. Also, WSMN's daytime 5 mV/m contour must cover an area in which live at least 80% of the citizens of Nashua. If any of this is incorrect, Scott Fybush or someone else with appropriate credentials will almost surely correct me. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 4:30 PM Subject: Should WSMN-AM's CP Have Expired By Now? > Just out of idle curiosity, I tuned my AM radio that displays relative > signal strength to check out WSMN-AM 1590 in > Nashua, NH. It seemed to me that Absolute Broadcasting had acquired an > approval from the FCC for extra > time to build out its 5K DA-2 until sometime in 2012, which is ending very > shortly. I did it at around noon > when there was maximum solar effectiveness in squelching AMs with shorter > wavelengths, but WSMN was > as weak as ever. It's now well past construction season so it would appear > that they either petition to run > about 200 watts NDA permanently or try for another extension. The verbiage > in the last piece of > correspondence I could find included protestations that the owners were > doing their utmost to get > the authorized facility on the air. Can they do this in 2013 again? And > speaking about AMs in the 14s and 15s: > the removal of WDCD-AM 1540 in Albany, NY has helped Exter, NH's WXEX-AM > 1540 to be heard for several > miles right after sunrise these mornings whereas in previous winters, if > you tuned to 1540 around > here, you got preachers from WDCD.