From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Aug 2 11:36:44 2011 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:36:44 -0400 Subject: WEEI on HD-2 signals of WAAF, WKAF Message-ID: HD radio's signals can be spotty, at least on the $40 portable I'd bought awhile back. To be honest I've never had an HD car stereo or an HD component unit (with antenna) so I don't know about those, but the portable (using the headphones/ear buds as the antenna) can deliver pretty impressive reception of standard FMs (see below) and HD can come in too, but don't expect miracles, or consistency. Maybe some who tune in to WKAF or WAAF's HD2s (with WEEI on them) can get good results but it may depend on where you are, whether or not the battery has a good charge, and the headphones/earbuds you're using. For all I know WEEI may have shut off the HD2 signals (just testing)--I did get the WKAF HD 2 on Sat night, but not now (here at home). For that matter, in the breakroom at work last night (which DOES get sorta good radio reception) in N. Reading I found I could barely pick up the main signals of 97.7 and 107.3, and naturally HD2 didn't come in. If the main FMs can't come in, how can they expect us to pick up the HD2s? Of course, as I scanned the dial of the HD portable here at home, I found I could get stations from the Cape like WEEI's sister station at 96.3; I got Frank FM from Maine at 107.5 and also someone sounding like Harold Camping (probably recorded!) on an 88.7 somewhere. I was getting 89.3 from south of Boston (UMass Dartmouth?), etc. Lots of good reception of FM signals from all over. Some HD2s came in, including WZLX's (blues), WKLB (classic country), and WBZ-FM HD2 (WBCN Classic, I think?) and WBZ-AM on the HD-3---Steve Leveille show, last night). Again, this is the portable I'm talking about, and there are various conditions that may affect reception; some good distant catches and some HD2s. (In the meantime, another sign that reception woes can plague WEEI's regular 850 signal--a post on Boston Sports Media from someone who was annoyed at having to switch between several of WEEI's sister stations and the main signal itself while driving on the Mass. Pike...after awhile they just switched to 98.5 WBZ-FM which was consistently good reception-wise. Of course I'm sure they don't cover as much as some would like, either. As said before, no doubt Entercom would have put WEEI on 93.7, 97.7, or 107.3's main signals if not for the fact that all stations no doubt bill well (with 93.7's low cost factor being a big plus for them)... Which is the bigger number: those who own HD radios, and those who own turntables with 16/33.3/45/78 speeds? :) From rac@gabrielmass.com Tue Aug 2 10:51:36 2011 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:51:36 -0400 Subject: nostalgia: old TV and movie sounders Message-ID: <4E380EF8.7060307@server4.gabrielmass.com> For your interest: Someone has compiled 1970s-1980s TV and film logo sounders into a video: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4lcyf_acceptable-logos-in-the-80s_fun (the video is prefaced by a commercial) Boston viewers have seen quite a few of these: I counted 27 yes, 21 no. --RC From paulranderson@charter.net Tue Aug 2 16:50:35 2011 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 16:50:35 -0400 Subject: nostalgia: old TV and movie sounders In-Reply-To: <4E380EF8.7060307@server4.gabrielmass.com> References: <4E380EF8.7060307@server4.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: My favorite is the WABC-TV movie theme, followed by the Screen Gems sounder. From wilkinsmg@hotmail.com Tue Aug 2 20:22:25 2011 From: wilkinsmg@hotmail.com (Michael Wilkins) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 20:22:25 -0400 Subject: Alex Beam's "My WILD Summer" In-Reply-To: References: <4E380EF8.7060307@server4.gabrielmass.com>, Message-ID: Thought it was interesting that no one has commented on this yet. (I'm chalking it up to vacations) Mike ----- My WILD summerWhiling away hazy, lazy days listening to broadcasts of China Radio International on a local AM stationBy Alex BeamGlobe Columnist / August 2, 2011 full piece here: http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/articles/2011/08/02/alex_beams_wild_summer_spent_listening_to_china_radio_international/ From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Aug 2 21:44:29 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 01:44:29 +0000 Subject: Alex Beam's "My WILD Summer" In-Reply-To: References: <4E380EF8.7060307@server4.gabrielmass.com>, Message-ID: <1049486417-1312335871-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1104234669-@b14.c25.bise6.blackberry> Alex does not seem to grasp that WILD is a daytimer :) -----Original Message----- From: Michael Wilkins Sender: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.orgDate: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 20:22:25 To: Subject: Alex Beam's "My WILD Summer" Thought it was interesting that no one has commented on this yet. (I'm chalking it up to vacations) Mike ----- My WILD summerWhiling away hazy, lazy days listening to broadcasts of China Radio International on a local AM stationBy Alex BeamGlobe Columnist / August 2, 2011 full piece here: http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/articles/2011/08/02/alex_beams_wild_summer_spent_listening_to_china_radio_international/ From lglavin@mail.com Mon Aug 1 13:22:26 2011 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:22:26 +0000 Subject: WEEI on HD-2 signals of WAAF, WKAF Message-ID: <20110801172226.64180@gmx.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: Dale H. Cook >Sent: 07/31/11 11:52 AM >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: WEEI on HD-2 signals of WAAF, WKAF >At 09:51 AM 7/31/2011, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >So does Entercom have a rulethat any FM that carries WEEI must carry it in stereo even though the >mother ship is on AM and is therefore mono? >Perhaps so. Some car radios, when scanning for stations, will only stop on signals with a pilot. However, most of the FM news, talk, and sports stations that I am aware of (and >the two where I have been CE) run without a pilot. >Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA >http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html It's been mentioned on this board that WBUR-FM's Boston signal runs in stereo during the airings of "It's Only a Game" and the Spanish-language record shows on the weekend. I don't know if this is true of the WBUR FM relays on the Cape of Cod, WSDH-FM 91.5 in Sandwich and WCCT-FM 90.3 in Harwich. As the guy in the annoying furniture commercials puts it: I doubt it. From billohno@gmail.com Tue Aug 2 23:23:43 2011 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 23:23:43 -0400 Subject: Most expensive thing I have ever won from a radio station In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ed566da-1253-466e-883e-325263d84242@email.android.com> Supple was amazing, indeed. (Anyone know how Dave is doing?) He often repeated himself on rapid fire fashion, e.g. "Dave Supple, Dave Supple reminding you to write it down write it down write it down." He'd toss I'm the occasional wrap up to his breathless rant with, "... We loooovvve you...." Still cracks me up to think about how nuts that guy really was even seeimg him in the studio or the mobile unit out on remotes. Didn't' seem to matter to Supp. Bill O'Neill Bill O'Neill Bill O'Neill..... -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _____________________________________________ From: Karen McTrotsky Sent: Wed Jul 27 13:31:57 EDT 2011 To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: re: Most expensive thing I have ever won from a radio station The WHDH Cash Call (nee: HDH Payphone) was indeed the best promotion in the history of the market -- on many fronts It was great because it got every at-home diary and it got every at-home diary because the execution was even better than the contest. "2,314 dollars is the HDH Cash Call amount, WRITE IT DOWN we may be calling you" Supple was especially good at selling it. And since the listeners were writing down an amount right around the quarter hour, wouldn't you know they'd pick up the diary at the same time and fill THAT in as well. For the current quarter hour. And for the quarter hour before that, and the one before that. Execution of that contest, and Blair's continuation of the station's historic emphasis on Boston and the inner suburbs drove them to #1 in the time around the Blizzard of 78 Karen McT --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Paul Hopfgarten" , "Bob Nelson" < raccoonradio@gmail.com>, "Douglas Broda" Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:52:23 +0000 Subject: Re: Most expensive thing I ever won from a radio station My aunt won WHDH Cash Call for over 11K in the mid 70's and did it with style. Jess called her and she replied 'The Cash Call is 11,536 but you are not Jess Cain - I know his voice and hung up' - well Jess played that clip which she heard and then called her back. WHDH Cash Call may have been the best promotion this market ever saw. From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Aug 3 07:24:02 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:24:02 +0000 Subject: 1970's HDH was: Most expensive thing I have ever won from a radio station Message-ID: <981153199-1312370644-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-540206694-@b14.c25.bise6.blackberry> WHDH in the mid 70's had become a powerhouse. They had become the Boston WNBC. Jess became known to a younger generation that had ignored him because of MOR. Sean Casey was solid in PM drive. Supple was banished from 10-2 and put on overnights around 1976 and I can't remember who took over mid day. Supple would always begin his overnight show with 'After Midnight' by Eric Clapton. Who did evenings at HDH then? I draw a blank.. I know Jim Sands was part of the mix especially on Saturday night but I can't recall his other shifts. From lspin@comcast.net Wed Aug 3 10:32:18 2011 From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:32:18 -0400 Subject: Most expensive thing I have ever won from a radio station In-Reply-To: <2ed566da-1253-466e-883e-325263d84242@email.android.com> References: <2ed566da-1253-466e-883e-325263d84242@email.android.com> Message-ID: <002b01cc51ea$35683280$a0389780$@net> Growing up in The North End and being a radio enthusiast, I'd take the occasional walk to Commercial Wharf where the WJIB (FM 97) studios were located in the early 70s. Dave Supple worked there for a time. He did some of the craziest stuff, like dancing wildly, while the JIB-music records were playing. I'm sure he was hamming it up for my benefit, but you knew that he was just a bit askew of the stuffy-sounding announcers from JIB in those days. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bill O'Neill Supple was amazing, indeed. (Anyone know how Dave is doing?) He often repeated himself on rapid fire fashion, e.g. "Dave Supple, Dave Supple reminding you to write it down write it down write it down." He'd toss I'm the occasional wrap up to his breathless rant with, "... We loooovvve you...." Still cracks me up to think about how nuts that guy really was even seeimg him in the studio or the mobile unit out on remotes. Didn't' seem to matter to Supp. Bill O'Neill Bill O'Neill Bill O'Neill..... From elipolo@earthlink.net Wed Aug 3 14:15:51 2011 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 14:15:51 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Alex Beam's "My WILD Summer" Message-ID: <16153336.1312395351408.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 01:44:29 +0000 >From: "Kevin Vahey" >To: "Michael Wilkins" , > boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Alex Beam's "My WILD Summer" > >Alex does not seem to grasp that WILD is a daytimer :) He probably doesn't know what a daytimer is, or about nighttime AM signal propagation. He appears to believe that WILD is on the air at night, rebroadcasting WBAL. I have actually encountered many other people over the years who also didn't know and just assumed that WILD was rebroadcasting WBAL at night, although it made no sense that a station that then had an urban format in the daytime would do that at night. A few years ago, a wanna-be DJ told me that he was "going to apply for a nighttime show at WILD, when they're just rebroadcasting this news station from Baltimore". I broke the news to him that wouldn't be possible, but I don't know if he understood why. EP From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Aug 4 11:52:27 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 11:52:27 -0400 Subject: Michele McPhee joins WCVB Message-ID: McPhee has landed a general assignment reporter role at NewsCenter 5 that will focus on crime. I think she will be very good in this role. http://www.boston.com/Boston/businessupdates/2011/08/mcphee-joins-channel/HVkuMEP05lG38XF4kia9wM/index.html?p1=Upbox_links From rbello@belloassoc.com Thu Aug 4 16:22:35 2011 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 16:22:35 -0400 Subject: Michele McPhee joins WCVB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Leave it to the Globe to tell part of the story and make it appear she is out ofd work. No mention of her current show 1 to 3pm Mon-Fri show on WRKO http://www.wrko.com/michele-mcphee On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > McPhee has landed a general assignment reporter role at NewsCenter 5 that > will focus on crime. I think she will be very good in this role. > > > http://www.boston.com/Boston/businessupdates/2011/08/mcphee-joins-channel/HVkuMEP05lG38XF4kia9wM/index.html?p1=Upbox_links > From HeritageRadio@msn.com Thu Aug 4 17:55:21 2011 From: HeritageRadio@msn.com (Thomas Heathwood) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:55:21 -0400 Subject: WHIL In-Reply-To: <1298565595-1311336391-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-391181881-@b14.c25.bise6.blackberry> References: <1298565595-1311336391-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-391181881-@b14.c25.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: While WCOP's "country period" in the 60's may be remembered as the last heard on 1150AM, it should be remembered that their greatest entry into the country field was in late 1951/early 1952 when the station developed the "Hayloft Jamboree" hosted by Nelson E. Bragg. The Jamboree was actually a combination of programming - a M-F afternoon live show from studio A, an evening record show with Nelson himself spinning the records, assorted programs of the individual artists, and their really big live shows from some of the largest venues in Boston and the surrounding area. Pepsi Cola and Beacon Wax put a lot of money into these shows, and imported some of the top country talent to play on these well attended shows which of course were broadcast on 1150, but to hire some tope attractions like Elton Britt to become a "staffer" on all the Jamboree enterprises. Anyone in the country music business between 1952 and 1956 were heard on the Hayloft Jamboree which was extended to cover most of the New England area via a several-station connection called "The Hayloft Jamboree Network" with programming emanating chiefly from the 485 Boylston Street studios and remotes from big Saturday night shows from Nantasket Beach, Mechanics Hall, The Boston Garden, and practically anyplace else you can think of where large crowds could be accommodated. This was the hey-day of Country music on WCOP. The later incarnation in the sixties was important as a format for a while, but never had the magnitude of live shows, stars and variety programming as done in the 50's. Tom Heathwood From ssmyth@psualum.com Fri Aug 5 10:54:12 2011 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 07:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Versus to become NBC Sports Network Message-ID: <1312556052.87882.YahooMailClassic@web110504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> The move is effective Jan. 2. Also says Comcast's regional sports networks will start drifting toward NBC-style graphics, production, etc. http://bo.st/pmERES Kevin/Maureen, I'm curious to read your insights/comments on this. (Not that this is a shocking move, by any means ... ) From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Aug 5 12:50:55 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:50:55 -0400 Subject: Versus to become NBC Sports Network In-Reply-To: <1312556052.87882.YahooMailClassic@web110504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1312556052.87882.YahooMailClassic@web110504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I am surprised there is a delay in rebranding the CSN name as Comcast has been trying to phase out the corporate name every where else ( see xfinity ) - I was told part of the problem was many of the domain combos were snatched up by squatters. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > The move is effective Jan. 2. Also says Comcast's regional sports networks > will start drifting toward NBC-style graphics, production, etc. > > http://bo.st/pmERES > > Kevin/Maureen, I'm curious to read your insights/comments on this. (Not > that this is a shocking move, by any means ... ) > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Aug 6 14:41:57 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 14:41:57 -0400 Subject: Touch FM 106.1 Message-ID: <5309466CBAE24BE6BA5B54781C75F036@SatU205S5044> I heard this pirate for the first time this morning on my car radio in my basement garage in Arlington Heights near Route 2 and the Lexington line. Sounded quite professional and just loaded with spots. If they aren't giving away the time, they might be making a fair amount of money--especially considering that pirates don't pay music-licensing fees. Signal was fair. Can anybody tell me the general area they are transmitting from, how much power they are running, and approximately how high the antenna is? I assume the transmitter location is somewhere in Roxbury, Dorchester, or Mattapan. If trops weren't involved in today's reception, I'd imagine that they could be running as much as 250W from an antenna 50' or so above ground. As far as I could tell, the unlicensed station was not interfering with WROR 105.7 or WMJX 106.7. There might have been interference to 106.3 in Nashua or Woonsocket but AFAIK, I am well outside both of those Class A stations' 54-dBu contours and, in fact, I did not catch either one of them. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Aug 6 15:50:03 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:50:03 -0400 Subject: Touch FM 106.1 In-Reply-To: <5309466CBAE24BE6BA5B54781C75F036@SatU205S5044> References: <5309466CBAE24BE6BA5B54781C75F036@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4E3D9AEB.6020909@donnahalper.com> On 8/6/2011 2:41 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I heard this pirate for the first time this morning on my car radio in > my basement garage in Arlington Heights near Route 2 and the Lexington > line. Sounded quite professional and just loaded with spots. If they > aren't giving away the time, they might be making a fair amount of > money--especially considering that pirates don't pay music-licensing > fees. Nobody yet has given me a good explanation as to how these folks remain on the air. They may be the nicest people ever, they may be performing a great service to humanity, but the last time I checked, they were operating illegally and that used to be a no-no. Why has the FCC given them a free pass? From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Aug 6 16:32:21 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 16:32:21 -0400 Subject: Touch FM 106.1 In-Reply-To: <4E3D9AEB.6020909@donnahalper.com> References: <5309466CBAE24BE6BA5B54781C75F036@SatU205S5044> <4E3D9AEB.6020909@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: 2 words - Mayor Mumbles Boston Police uses them at times to get messages out On Aug 6, 2011 4:27 PM, "Donna Halper" wrote: > On 8/6/2011 2:41 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >> I heard this pirate for the first time this morning on my car radio in >> my basement garage in Arlington Heights near Route 2 and the Lexington >> line. Sounded quite professional and just loaded with spots. If they >> aren't giving away the time, they might be making a fair amount of >> money--especially considering that pirates don't pay music-licensing >> fees. > > Nobody yet has given me a good explanation as to how these folks remain > on the air. They may be the nicest people ever, they may be performing > a great service to humanity, but the last time I checked, they were > operating illegally and that used to be a no-no. Why has the FCC given > them a free pass? From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Aug 6 16:50:07 2011 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 16:50:07 -0400 Subject: Touch FM 106.1 In-Reply-To: References: <5309466CBAE24BE6BA5B54781C75F036@SatU205S5044> <4E3D9AEB.6020909@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <2B1FBA41-C8D8-431B-BF00-2AD32B5068AA@comcast.net> I think you can pretty much blame them for the death of 1090 WILD. They don't run as much power as Hot 87.7 and Big City 101.3. Both of those stations have been raided, 87.7 about a month ago, but they were both back on within a week. Some of the Haitian pirates like the 3 transmitter simulcast 89.3 (Mattapan, Randolph, and Brockton) have been on for close to if not more than 10 years. Pirates broadcasting formats like oldies, rock, etc seem to get shut down for good once they get noticed, which I know may not be a good thing to say on this list... Sorry, I said it... Jeff Lehmann On Aug 6, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > 2 words - Mayor Mumbles > > Boston Police uses them at times to get messages out > On Aug 6, 2011 4:27 PM, "Donna Halper" wrote: >> On 8/6/2011 2:41 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >>> I heard this pirate for the first time this morning on my car radio in >>> my basement garage in Arlington Heights near Route 2 and the Lexington >>> line. Sounded quite professional and just loaded with spots. If they >>> aren't giving away the time, they might be making a fair amount of >>> money--especially considering that pirates don't pay music-licensing >>> fees. >> >> Nobody yet has given me a good explanation as to how these folks remain >> on the air. They may be the nicest people ever, they may be performing >> a great service to humanity, but the last time I checked, they were >> operating illegally and that used to be a no-no. Why has the FCC given >> them a free pass? From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Sat Aug 6 16:50:54 2011 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 20:50:54 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Touch FM 106.1 Message-ID: <4E3DA92E.9080905@Gmail.com> Dan Strassberg wrote, > I heard this pirate for the first time this morning on my car > radio in my basement garage in Arlington Heights near Route 2 > and the Lexington line. > Signal was fair. Can anybody tell me the general area they are > transmitting from, how much power they are running, and > approximately how high the antenna is? I assume the transmitter > location is somewhere in Roxbury, Dorchester, or Mattapan. A while back, someone (NEACRAT?) posted a map somewhere with all of the Boston area pirates, with 106.1 plotted at the intersection of Blue Hill & Geneva Ave.s & Washington & Cheney St.s: http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=FN42JK70&from=FN42LH04AA&t=n ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Sat Aug 6 18:07:09 2011 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 18:07:09 -0400 Subject: Touch FM 106.1 In-Reply-To: <4E3D9AEB.6020909@donnahalper.com> References: <5309466CBAE24BE6BA5B54781C75F036@SatU205S5044> <4E3D9AEB.6020909@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20110806180158.0287cba0@plymouthcolony.net> At 03:50 PM 8/6/2011, Donna Halper wrote: >Why has the FCC given them a free pass? Because the Enforcement Bureau has a much smaller staff now than they did twenty years ago. First call has to go to cases like an FM about 50 miles from me, that has had sporadic problems with spurs ever since they installed a used Bauer missing the IPA many years ago. About a year and a half ago that transmitter started putting a spur on top of one of the frequencies at the Lynchburg airport. Because that is a commercial airport EB acted quickly to protect airline passengers. Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From brscomm@yahoo.com Sat Aug 6 19:11:02 2011 From: brscomm@yahoo.com (Bill Smith) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 16:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Busting pirates. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1312672262.58527.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> How many enforcement people does the FCC have in Quincy? They have to cover New England and need to prioritize things. Aviation, marine and public safety radio interference problems?generally are bigger more immediate problems than a pirate broadcaster. ? Then they have special projects like the upcoming Opsail 2012. They act as frequency coordinators protecting incumbent government frequencies from interlopers. ? They also have mandatory inspection duties on marine radio stations on ships under international treaty. This was a particular favorite of Vince Kajunski. Dennis has his priorities, especially those coming down from Washington. ? Look at the enforcement actions on the FCC website. Antenna structure registration is big along with cable system leakage, the odd cell phone jammer AND... Pirates. They, nationwide, do go after quite a few.? Bill ? --- On Sat, 8/6/11, Kevin Vahey wrote: From: Kevin Vahey Subject: Re: Touch FM 106.1 To: "Donna Halper" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 3:32 PM 2 words - Mayor Mumbles Boston Police uses them at times to get messages out On Aug 6, 2011 4:27 PM, "Donna Halper" wrote: > On 8/6/2011 2:41 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >> I heard this pirate for the first time this morning on my car radio in >> my basement garage in Arlington Heights near Route 2 and the Lexington >> line. Sounded quite professional and just loaded with spots. If they >> aren't giving away the time, they might be making a fair amount of >> money--especially considering that pirates don't pay music-licensing >> fees. > > Nobody yet has given me a good explanation as to how these folks remain > on the air. They may be the nicest people ever, they may be performing > a great service to humanity, but the last time I checked, they were > operating illegally and that used to be a no-no. Why has the FCC given > them a free pass? From chris2526@comcast.net Sun Aug 7 03:24:11 2011 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 03:24:11 -0400 Subject: touch 106 FM Message-ID: <19763E2556EC413F8E48074315207B49@chrisHP> Two words: Barack Obama From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Aug 7 07:32:54 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 07:32:54 -0400 Subject: touch 106 FM In-Reply-To: <19763E2556EC413F8E48074315207B49@chrisHP> References: <19763E2556EC413F8E48074315207B49@chrisHP> Message-ID: <4E3E77E6.8000203@donnahalper.com> On 8/7/2011 3:24 AM, Chris Hall wrote: > Two words: Barack Obama > > Umm, no offense, but wasn't there a problem with pirates in the area long before Obama took office? From linc45r-n@lincster.com Wed Aug 3 13:54:46 2011 From: linc45r-n@lincster.com (Linc Reed-Nickerson) Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 10:54:46 -0700 Subject: Northeast coast Maine towers In-Reply-To: <14CDAF75CC5C4C92B4BFDDE25E83B518@chrisHP> References: <14CDAF75CC5C4C92B4BFDDE25E83B518@chrisHP> Message-ID: <4E398B66.8060801@lincster.com> We have the West Coast VLF installation at Jim Creek, WA. Also VLF, but the antenna in strung between two Mountains. You can see it on Google Earth at 48?12'13.35"N 48?12'13.35"N. I have pictures inside the site if anyone is interested. Basically both sites are top-loaded vertical wires, the towers are not radiators. Linc On 7/14/2011 12:38 AM, Chris Hall wrote: > Just saw the most spectacular aerial flyover of Maine in HD on the Smithsonian channel, on the very > northeastern coast near Calais the are 10 or so large self supporting towers like those at the old WBNX > in Carlstadt. Anyone have an idea....were those part of RCA transatlantic communications??? > If not in such large numbers with a pattern out to sea they could be mistaken for an AM directional array. > If you have time check out this and many other state flyovers....they are incredible viewing > > From linc45r-n@lincster.com Fri Aug 5 14:51:15 2011 From: linc45r-n@lincster.com (Linc Reed-Nickerson) Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:51:15 -0700 Subject: Most expensive thing I ever won from a radio station In-Reply-To: <1311832506.36951.YahooMailClassic@web180302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1311832506.36951.YahooMailClassic@web180302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E3C3BA3.6080903@lincster.com> I always amazed me the great prizes many Boston and area stations gave away, OK probably trade, but I was appalled by the absolute junk that WBZ gave away. And some really dumb contests! Ruth Marshaletta, seems like she was from Leominster or Fitchburg, somewhere west of Boston, was always winning for the Jay Dunn "Household Hints." I won $100 once from WKBR, circa 1962... I found the Easter Egg buried behind the studios at Front Road. About 4 years later, and I know you were looking for radio, but.... I was the "big winner" on Password, air date July 22, 1966. Played with Arthur Godfrey and Dorothy Loudon, soundly defeated my opponent Sybil Pollock! $600 out of a possible $700. I missed two words in one of the "Lightning Rounds." Show was taped in June 29th (I think). I watched show from home in Newbury, MA, and watched the last show of that week in Woolworth's in San Francisco, I could see my new wife in the audience That evening I reported to Oakland Army base, and by that time the following week I was in Vietnam. Linc From supersport@maine.rr.com Sat Aug 6 08:05:40 2011 From: supersport@maine.rr.com (Supersport) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 08:05:40 -0400 Subject: WHRB & WSKX Tweak Signals In-Reply-To: <20110726205314.64200@gmx.com> References: <20110726205314.64200@gmx.com> Message-ID: How about letting me program it locally, as opposed to carrying Kiss-108 on it or a near-clone of Kiss-108, of which this market is not Boston! -----Original Message----- From: Laurence Glavin [mailto:lglavin@mail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:53 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org Subject: WHRB & WSKX Tweak Signals Two FM stations operating on 95.3, WHRB COL Cambridge, MA TL Financial/Theater District of downtown Boston, and WSKX COL York, ME TL Mt Agamenticus, ME (a hill really) have applied to tweak their facilities. WHRB will go from a directional antenna to a non-directional antenna, and lower its ERP a skosh, while WSKX alter its DA pattern to spread its full power over a large area, while reducing its signal south and southwest. This seems a little odd because WWWA-FM 95.3 is boosting its power at the same time. Actually, to paraphrase Randy Newman, WSKX has no reason to exist...it would be better if it went away. It's supposedly a part of the Portsmouth, NH/Kittery, ME market, and in the past failed to show up in the ratings the last time I looked (with different call letters). Is there a Harvardian somewhere with a few idle bucks to buy out WSKX and silence it? From goudsward@gmail.com Sun Aug 7 15:06:39 2011 From: goudsward@gmail.com (Dave Goudsward) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:06:39 -0400 Subject: Most expensive thing I ever won from a radio station In-Reply-To: <4E3C3BA3.6080903@lincster.com> References: <1311832506.36951.YahooMailClassic@web180302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4E3C3BA3.6080903@lincster.com> Message-ID: <4E3EE23F.6060900@gmail.com> I'm a newbie, but I thought this was a safe topic to jump in on... In 1987, I won a Chevy Beretta from WOKQ up in Portamouth (we were in Haverhill). Be the right number call during a daily song and you were entered. 200 entrants each pulled a key out a basket. If it opened the car, you drove away with it. It did and we did. Dave Goudsward Lake Worth, FL From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Aug 7 16:35:23 2011 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 16:35:23 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: touch 106 FM Message-ID: <15644940.1312749323621.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 07:32:54 -0400 >From: Donna Halper >To: Chris Hall >Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Re: touch 106 FM > >On 8/7/2011 3:24 AM, Chris Hall wrote: >> Two words: Barack Obama >> >Umm, no offense, but wasn't there a problem with >pirates in the area long before Obama took office? Yes, most of the established pirates in this area, including "Touch 106.1" have been on the air for around (or over) a decade, for many years before Obama took office. Most of them have been on the air throughout the entire GWB administration, and many first came on the air even before that. Though I have not necessarily been happy with all things Obama myself, I find it ludicrous how his detractors try to blame anything and everything that they don't like in this country on him, with a blind eye to how long the same issues have been going on long before him. EP From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Aug 7 18:12:41 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:12:41 -0400 Subject: touch 106 FM Message-ID: Congressman Mike Capuano has actually been a guest on 106.1 which probably doesn't hurt them. Boston may well be the largest market without a true urban station. Once WILD-FM sold out to Entercom 106.1 took over. Boston would also most likely support a Hispanic full time FM as well. From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Aug 7 18:42:19 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:42:19 -0400 Subject: touch 106 FM Message-ID: I don't think most Hispanics want to listen to music on a bad AM signal On Aug 7, 2011 6:26 PM, "Jeff Lehmann" wrote: From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sun Aug 7 18:26:46 2011 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:26:46 -0400 Subject: touch 106 FM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005d01cc5551$1850c440$48f24cc0$@net> > Boston would also most likely support a Hispanic full time FM as well. It's worth noting that very few of these pirates have been broadcasting in Spanish. The only one I can think of right now is 99.1, doing Spanish religious in Lawrence. I don't think there's been one in Dorchester/Mattapan/Roxbury doing Spanish. I actually don't think Boston could support a Spanish FM... The Spanish FM in Philly didn't even last a year, and I believe their Hispanic population is/was higher than Boston's? 890's ratings are not through the roof. I think we already have the Spanish FM that there will be around here for now, 102.9, the translator for 800 WNNW in Lawrence, where most of the Hispanic population is. I'd guess that about 70% of the pirates, and a higher percentage than that of the AM ones (720, 1640, 1670....) are broadcasting in Haitian. Haitians must just be very good at setting up pirate stations, because I think the percentage of radio stations is quite high for the actual population, though I suppose it is growing leaps and bounds. The other 30% is broadcasting to the urban community, or other carribbean groups. Most of the pirates are location within a half mile or so of Blue Hill Ave in Dorchester/Mattapan. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From peterwmurray@gmail.com Sun Aug 7 19:27:57 2011 From: peterwmurray@gmail.com (Peter Murray) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 19:27:57 -0400 Subject: touch 106 FM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It is completely understandable that most audiences do not want to listen to particular content on a lousy signal. Leave it to the crazies (whoever they are) to struggle to listen to weak signals for fun. It is commendable that Touch 106.1 FM provides the "public service" that they do, having the Congressman on their station and providing the service that they do to the community. I'm sure there are plenty of other groups who would also like that opportunity. I'll now echo (and amplify upon) that which Donna has already mentioned - Touch FM is not licensed, may (or may not) use non FCC type-accepted equipment, and are certainly not operating within the established legal framework to which the legitimate signals in the market do conform (at great expense). That this is permitted to continue in a market as large as Boston seems to indicate that they are not just a lucky rogue operator, but that there are others providing tacit support. It creates a bad precedent, and opens the FCC EB to liability. If the appropriate powers actively shut down some operators and not others, that does appear discriminatory. Don't get me wrong - I think that the current licensing model and spacing rules were written with the express purpose of keeping the existing signals strong and making it difficult to add new competition. I do believe that the conventional broadcast model is being upended with the advances in ubiquitous broadband, and the on-demand availability of the desired content is eroding the value of the typical programming to the lowest common denominator we hear too often today. Provide compelling content to listeners that they can't get elsewhere, and they will come to you for it. Live and local gives a station personality and locally relevant content. WTOP in DC is making huge profit with this approach, and have established themselves as the de-facto go-to station for news, traffic and other information of local importance. Perhaps WRKO should give up on talk and try 100% news, traffic, weather.... Regarding Spanish on an FM in Boston - I think it would survive just fine, if there were an available licensed signal. For what it is worth, CBS Radio-owned class-B WLZL (99.1, Annapolis MD - transmitting from 20 miles away) is performing better in the 12+ ratings here in the Washington DC metro than some of its English-speaking sister stations which transmit from sites 15 miles closer to downtown (I'm looking at you, WIAD)... -Peter On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > I don't think most Hispanics want to listen to music on a bad AM signal > On Aug 7, 2011 6:26 PM, "Jeff Lehmann" wrote: > From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Aug 7 19:37:30 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 19:37:30 -0400 Subject: The Mike Douglas Show (5/27/66) Message-ID: The Standells first national TV gig - who knew how 45 years later they would become so much a part of Boston culture. Was this done in Philly or Cleveland? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSMvrG554qU&feature=youtube_gdata_player From paul@derrynh.net Sun Aug 7 19:16:01 2011 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 19:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: touch 106 FM In-Reply-To: <15644940.1312749323621.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15644940.1312749323621.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <733299961.146208.1312758961310.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw06.schlund.de> While I agree that this is not Obama's doing, I do think the FCC might drop pirates playing perceived 'underserved' formats in a community to the bottom of their 'go after' list... ? (And I say this as someone that believes Obama is coming as close to single-handedly destroying the US as any President save James Polk and his Slavery "compromises"....) ? -Paul Hopfgarten Concord soon to be Epping NH On August 7, 2011 at 4:35 PM Eli Polonsky wrote: > >Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 07:32:54 -0400 > >From: Donna Halper > >To: Chris Hall > >Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > >Subject: Re: touch 106 FM > > > >On 8/7/2011 3:24 AM, Chris Hall wrote: > >> Two words: Barack Obama > >>? ? > >Umm, no offense, but wasn't there a problem with > >pirates in the area long before Obama took office? > > Yes, most of the established pirates in this area, > including "Touch 106.1" have been on the air for > around (or over) a decade, for many years before > Obama took office. Most of them have been on the > air throughout the entire GWB administration, and > many first came on the air even before that. > > Though I have not necessarily been happy with all > things Obama myself, I find it ludicrous how his > detractors try to blame anything and everything > that they don't like in this country on him, with > a blind eye to how long the same issues have been > going on long before him. > > EP > > > > From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Aug 7 20:00:12 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 20:00:12 -0400 Subject: touch 106 FM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If the Boston Police feels that 106.1 is their best option to get a message out to Dorchester, Roxbury and Mattapan then something is wrong but it is also the reality. On Aug 7, 2011 7:29 PM, "Peter Murray" wrote: > It is completely understandable that most audiences do not want to > listen to particular content on a lousy signal. Leave it to the > crazies (whoever they are) to struggle to listen to weak signals for > fun. > > It is commendable that Touch 106.1 FM provides the "public service" > that they do, having the Congressman on their station and providing > the service that they do to the community. I'm sure there are plenty > of other groups who would also like that opportunity. > > I'll now echo (and amplify upon) that which Donna has already > mentioned - Touch FM is not licensed, may (or may not) use non FCC > type-accepted equipment, and are certainly not operating within the > established legal framework to which the legitimate signals in the > market do conform (at great expense). > > That this is permitted to continue in a market as large as Boston > seems to indicate that they are not just a lucky rogue operator, but > that there are others providing tacit support. It creates a bad > precedent, and opens the FCC EB to liability. If the appropriate > powers actively shut down some operators and not others, that does > appear discriminatory. > > Don't get me wrong - I think that the current licensing model and > spacing rules were written with the express purpose of keeping the > existing signals strong and making it difficult to add new > competition. I do believe that the conventional broadcast model is > being upended with the advances in ubiquitous broadband, and the > on-demand availability of the desired content is eroding the value of > the typical programming to the lowest common denominator we hear too > often today. Provide compelling content to listeners that they can't > get elsewhere, and they will come to you for it. Live and local gives > a station personality and locally relevant content. WTOP in DC is > making huge profit with this approach, and have established themselves > as the de-facto go-to station for news, traffic and other information > of local importance. Perhaps WRKO should give up on talk and try 100% > news, traffic, weather.... > > Regarding Spanish on an FM in Boston - I think it would survive just > fine, if there were an available licensed signal. For what it is > worth, CBS Radio-owned class-B WLZL (99.1, Annapolis MD - transmitting > from 20 miles away) is performing better in the 12+ ratings here in > the Washington DC metro than some of its English-speaking sister > stations which transmit from sites 15 miles closer to downtown (I'm > looking at you, WIAD)... > > -Peter > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> I don't think most Hispanics want to listen to music on a bad AM signal >> On Aug 7, 2011 6:26 PM, "Jeff Lehmann" wrote: >> From rac@gabrielmass.com Sun Aug 7 19:30:10 2011 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 19:30:10 -0400 Subject: touch 106 FM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E3F2002.1070602@server4.gabrielmass.com> On 08/07/2011 07:27 PM, Peter Murray wrote: > It is completely understandable that most audiences do not want to > listen to particular content on a lousy signal. Leave it to the > crazies (whoever they are) to struggle to listen to weak signals for > fun. Come to think of it, that's an exact description of the (old) hobby of shortwave listening. --RC From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Sun Aug 7 20:02:33 2011 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:02:33 -0400 Subject: The Mike Douglas Show (5/27/66) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20110807194602.028853f0@plymouthcolony.net> At 07:37 PM 8/7/2011, Kevin Vahey wrote: >Was this done in Philly or Cleveland? It was Philadelphia - Westinghouse's Philadelphia-Cleveland station swap with NBC was overturned by the Commission (10 years after it had happened), so Westinghouse was back in Philadelphia in mid-1965, moving the KYW-TV calls (Mike's Cleveland station) from Cleveland to Philadelphia, and the Mike Douglas Show started airing from there in late August. Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From marklaurence@mac.com Sun Aug 7 20:23:39 2011 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:23:39 -0400 Subject: touch 106 FM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2D91751C-73B4-40C7-BAA9-A2A548589C8E@mac.com> On Aug 7, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Boston would also most likely support a Hispanic full time FM as well. Here's what makes me question the economics for Boston. The Hispanic 12+ population of the entire Boston market is only 320,000 people according to Arbitron's Spring 2011 figures. Compare that to Los Angeles where it is 4.6 million or New York where it's 3.3 million. As a stand-alone market, it would be about the same as the metro area of Burlington/Plattsburgh. We're the #9 metro in the US but for Hispanic population we're #25. I can't find very recent household income figures for Boston, but in 1999 the average non-Hispanic white household income in this metro was $59,000, and the Hispanic household income was $33,000. This sounds like a very tough sell. But Univision and Telemundo are bringing in some dollars, and El Planeta has been around for 7 years, so there is some money to be made, maybe more than I'm thinking. From cohasset@frontiernet.net Sun Aug 7 22:01:44 2011 From: cohasset@frontiernet.net (Cohasset / Hippisley) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 22:01:44 -0400 Subject: touch 106 FM In-Reply-To: <4E3F2002.1070602@server4.gabrielmass.com> References: <4E3F2002.1070602@server4.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <4927377A-86E1-4F87-99F8-6B0923E338F0@frontiernet.net> On Aug 7, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Richard Chonak wrote: > On 08/07/2011 07:27 PM, Peter Murray wrote: >> It is completely understandable that most audiences do not want to >> listen to particular content on a lousy signal. Leave it to the >> crazies (whoever they are) to struggle to listen to weak signals for >> fun. > > Come to think of it, that's an exact description of the (old) hobby of shortwave listening. > --RC > And the resurgent hobby of weak-signal DXing on the 160-meter band (1.800 MHz and up).... Crazies or not, some of the most cutting-edge improvements in MF/HF communications receivers and receiving antennas, as well as advances to ionospheric propagation knowledge, are being driven by the crazies on "Topband" (160 m). Bud Hippisley, W2RU From chris2526@comcast.net Mon Aug 8 00:54:52 2011 From: chris2526@comcast.net (Chris Hall) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 00:54:52 -0400 Subject: Touch 106 FM Message-ID: <96B13F45FB8A43FCBE49E56C5ADE7A0F@chrisHP> Its going to get very interesting in the next few years, like illegal immigration, if you don?t like the laws just do what you want and break them no one will do anything about it as long as you are politically correct.....as the country moves further towards anarchy the sad beginning of the end of the US as we knew it. Just another bankrupt third world hell hole is our future From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 8 00:34:51 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 00:34:51 -0400 Subject: touch 106 FM In-Reply-To: <15644940.1312749323621.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15644940.1312749323621.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4E3F676B.5000609@attorneyross.com> On 8/7/2011 4:35 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > Yes, most of the established pirates in this area, including "Touch > 106.1" have been on the air for around (or over) a decade, for many > years before Obama took office. Most of them have been on the air > throughout the entire GWB administration, and many first came on the > air even before that. Though I have not necessarily been happy with > all things Obama myself, I find it ludicrous how his detractors try to > blame anything and everything that they don't like in this country on > him, with a blind eye to how long the same issues have been going on > long before him. EP I believe it was the Republican Congress of the 1980s that cut the budget of the FCC enforcement division. As I recall, they wanted to abolish the FCC altogether. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Aug 8 03:06:53 2011 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 03:06:53 -0400 Subject: UNS: Touch 106 FM In-Reply-To: <96B13F45FB8A43FCBE49E56C5ADE7A0F@chrisHP> References: <96B13F45FB8A43FCBE49E56C5ADE7A0F@chrisHP> Message-ID: <20031.35597.947952.671317@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: [deleted] If you would please, keep the political chatter to a more appropriate forum. -GAWollman From peterwmurray@gmail.com Mon Aug 8 16:28:29 2011 From: peterwmurray@gmail.com (Peter Murray) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:28:29 -0400 Subject: touch 106 FM In-Reply-To: <4927377A-86E1-4F87-99F8-6B0923E338F0@frontiernet.net> References: <4E3F2002.1070602@server4.gabrielmass.com> <4927377A-86E1-4F87-99F8-6B0923E338F0@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: As one of the crazies, I should have added a modifier to my statement... :) Most of my DX work is on FM, personally. Best FM DX catch I've had was driving in my car during a summer afternoon (about 12 years ago) south of Allentown, PA, listening to (tropo-ducted) KLAW (101.3, Lawton OK) and KFDI (101.3C, Wichita KS) coming in like locals. They had some storms going out there at the time, with tornado alerts and traffic on "the 135", which made me realize there was no way I was hearing WROZ (101.3B, Lancaster PA)... I still think that Hispanic would work in Boston - the "Hispanic" population (over 300K) is higher than the "Black" population (almost 270K). Both population and descriptions provided by Arbitron, btw. There are many who would listen to either format that are not in that specific demographic, whether or not it is programmed in their native tongue! My earlier comparison of Boston to DC didn't take into account that the "Hispanic 12+) population in DC is 200K higher than that of Boston, but I still think a FM would do very well - after all, there wouldn't be too many other non-subscription choices that the Spanish-speaking population would have, aside from the 3 "Tropical" AM signals and whatever music they put in their CD or MP3 player. Together, the 3 "Tropical" outlets (WNNW, WAMG, WKOX) cume about 210K if you believe Arbitron's PPM numbers - almost WCRB and WGBH territory... 73 de N3IXY On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Cohasset / Hippisley wrote: > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Richard Chonak wrote: > >> On 08/07/2011 07:27 PM, Peter Murray wrote: >>> It is completely understandable that most audiences do not want to >>> listen to particular content on a lousy signal. Leave it to the >>> crazies (whoever they are) to struggle to listen to weak signals for >>> fun. >> >> Come to think of it, that's an exact description of the (old) hobby of shortwave listening. >> --RC >> > > And the resurgent hobby of weak-signal DXing on the 160-meter band (1.800 MHz and up).... > > Crazies or not, some of the most cutting-edge improvements in MF/HF communications receivers and receiving antennas, as well as advances to ionospheric propagation knowledge, are being driven by the crazies on "Topband" (160 m). > > Bud Hippisley, W2RU > > > From m_carney@yahoo.com Mon Aug 8 19:17:16 2011 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The Mike Douglas Show (5/27/66) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20110807194602.028853f0@plymouthcolony.net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20110807194602.028853f0@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: <1312845436.23700.YahooMailNeo@web161301.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I was recently reading something that Mike Douglas pushed for his show to go to Boston instead of Philly. He had done a week of shows from here sometime in 1965 and liked the audience response. Group W put him in Philly to be closer to New York. From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Aug 8 21:00:54 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 21:00:54 -0400 Subject: The Mike Douglas Show (5/27/66) In-Reply-To: <1312845436.23700.YahooMailNeo@web161301.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20110807194602.028853f0@plymouthcolony.net> <1312845436.23700.YahooMailNeo@web161301.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: When the Hynes first opened in 1965 - Mike did 5 shows that each drew over 4,000. Jimmy Durante was the cohost. On Aug 8, 2011 8:49 PM, "Maureen Carney" wrote: > I was recently reading something that Mike Douglas pushed for his show to go to Boston instead of Philly. He had done a week of shows from here sometime in 1965 and liked the audience response. Group W put him in Philly to be closer to New York. From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Mon Aug 8 21:15:59 2011 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:15:59 -0400 Subject: The Mike Douglas Show (5/27/66) In-Reply-To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20110807194602.028853f0@plymouthcolony.net> <1312845436.23700.YahooMailNeo@web161301.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20110808211024.027d27b8@plymouthcolony.net> At 08:49 PM 8/8/2011, Maureen Carney wrote: >I was recently reading something that Mike Douglas pushed for his >show to go to Boston instead of Philly. He had done a week of shows >from here sometime in 1965 and liked the audience response. Group W >put him in Philly to be closer to New York. Philadelphia's proximity to New York made possible something that would not have been practical in Boston - transporting New York based guests to and from the studios in limos. A major exception was Jack Benny, who, true to his persona, arrived at Mike's studio on a Philadelphia city bus. Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed Aug 10 20:32:51 2011 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Jade McCarthy leaving NESN Message-ID: <1313022771.97113.YahooMailNeo@web161320.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/news/mediaBiz/index.php/2011/08/09/jade-mccarthy-to-exit-nesn/ She's headed back to Philly - her husband got a new position and she's expecting their first child this Fall. From kenwvt@gmail.com Thu Aug 11 07:36:14 2011 From: kenwvt@gmail.com (Ken VanTassell) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:36:14 -0400 Subject: Dale Arnold Message-ID: Dale Arnold Tweeted about an hour ago that he has signed a contract with the Philadelphia Eagles. -Ken From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Aug 11 08:53:25 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:53:25 -0400 Subject: Dale Arnold Message-ID: I think it was a joke as he then said @DaleEArnoldBy the way, The #Eagles don't really have a position for me yet, but they're signing everyone else. Will #SteveDeOssie follow me to Philly? On Aug 11, 2011 8:39 AM, "Ken VanTassell" wrote: From kenwvt@gmail.com Thu Aug 11 10:00:07 2011 From: kenwvt@gmail.com (Ken VanTassell) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:00:07 -0400 Subject: Dale Arnold In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah Dale fooled even his daughter, he just tweeted: "Okay --- since even my daughter is questioning it --- I was JOKING about signing with the #Eagles. They wouldn't meet my salary demands!" -Ken On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > I think it was a joke as he then said > > @DaleEArnoldBy the way, The #Eagles don't really have a position for me > yet, but they're signing everyone else. Will #SteveDeOssie follow me to > Philly? > On Aug 11, 2011 8:39 AM, "Ken VanTassell" wrote: > From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Aug 11 12:20:56 2011 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:20:56 +0000 Subject: Some thoughts on local HD radio Message-ID: <20110811162057.218730@gmx.com> A while back I bought that $40 (sale price) Insignia portable from Best Buy. It isn't too bad, and it is good to get some "extra stations" etc. but from what I can gather HD isn't exactly doing blockbuster sales, despite a lot of advertising by some big companies. --I spin down the dial and notice that the main signal of stations like WROR and WMJX sounds good for a few seconds, then when the HD light stops blinking it's even better. Maybe it's like hearing "FM Wide" vs. regular FM stereo, or "FM Stereo" vs. FM mono. This is on "ear buds" (I was actually using a pair of earbuds I got on a Sony portable digital recorder). Is it blow-your-mind excellent sound quality? Not really that much but not that bad either. --The "extra stations", the "hidden ones" seems to be what HD is promoting. The idea is for people to buy these radios and hear them for free instead of buying a satellite radio. I have that, too (XM) and when I drive I can hear classic country, ballgames from all over, the sound portion of news channels, music from various decades, "new wave hits of the 80s", blues, jazz, and so on. Some of these types of formats do pop up on the local stations under HD2 or HD3. There is an HD website out there which lists them but it's not necessarily accurate. I think they listed "comedy" as the HD2 under WAAF. Wrong. "Blues" was listed as the HD2 for WKAF. Wrong. To the best of my knowledge those formats never aired on those HD2s. (Blues, however, is on the HD2 for WZLX) --Some AM news/talk stations have popped up on HD. Perhaps those who have trouble picking up the stations-- interference in an apartment building or a workplace, or maybe the signal has to change direction after dark-- can tune in. WXKS 1200 is on sister station WXKS-FM's HD2. WEEI is supposedly on both the HD2s of WAAF (west of Boston--makes sense, as they have problems after dark) and WKAF (_that_ one I can get in, but I can only get the main signal of WAAF). WRKO is supposedly on the HD3 of WAAF. And WBZ AM is on WBZ-FM's HD 3. --For those who were getting trouble picking up WCRB at 99.5, WGBH offers it as an HD2 on their 89.7 signal. --Formats I can pick up on my portable include Nothing But the 70s, 80s Rock, blues, Irish, "Radio You" (alternative?), rhythmic AC (for those who miss "Star 93.7"), hiphop, "Freeform BCN", soft hits, smooth jazz, classic country, etc. --Reception? It depends where you are. I think they have to only push out a certain amount of power to avoid interference. Sometimes you don't get an HD2 or HD3 at all. Other times, it comes in, but for a second but then quickly drops--and a "Channel No Longer Available" text hits the display. Speaking of display, song titles often pop up (similar to satellite radio). I WILL say that it's pretty good for plain old FM reception. Maybe it's the time of year but Cape Cod stations at 104.7, 106.1, 96.3 (WEII), etc do come in well. I also am getting an 88.7 which I think is a religious station out of Sanford, ME So...is it worth it? As a portable, it's not bad, but I get the feeling most people either don't know about HD or don't care. If I were a salesman I'd say that the $40 portable isn't that much more expensive than a regular AM-FM walkman and "you get a lot of extra stations". But do most people simply accept what's out there and don't care about the "extra stations"? Hey, they like Mike 93.7 or the new country on 102.5, etc., and they're fine with that. Some folks might like the extra formats-- smooth jazz! Classic country! Or the ability to hear some AM stations without static etc. (I will add in some cases certain stations are being squeezed off the air, like WJMF down in RI, and they wind up on HD. As WCRB is taking over their main signal at 88.7, the college radio stuff is being sent to the Web--and to HD. How many of their listeners will bother buying an HD radio?) So the question is, is HD what it's cracked up to be in the ads? Will it succeed? So far it doesn't seem like it has the mass appeal they'd hoped for. Perhaps if more HD radios wound up being put into cars, or if there were competitively priced (some say there already are) component units or portables, it might do better. Or do people rather intend to buy phones with apps that can pick up stations, or are people waiting for wifi radios to show up in cars (already happening in some cases?) Someone like me who wants a bit of variety can enjoy an HD radio but will the masses warm up to it? It seems so far like it hasn't quite caught on... Comments?--Bob Nelson From aerie.ma@comcast.net Thu Aug 11 14:24:11 2011 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:24:11 -0400 Subject: Some thoughts on local HD radio In-Reply-To: <20110811162057.218730@gmx.com> References: <20110811162057.218730@gmx.com> Message-ID: <006401cc5853$e1e569a0$a5b03ce0$@ma@comcast.net> The thing I like best about my two Sony HD table radios is that, aside from AM simulcasts, most HD2/3 stations are still (probably not by choice) "commercial free". Some of the programming is admittedly "niche" programming that would not (or did not) do well on an analog FM station. But it's nice to have it available. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:21 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Some thoughts on local HD radio A while back I bought that $40 (sale price) Insignia portable from Best Buy. It isn't too bad, and it is good to get some "extra stations" etc. but from what I can gather HD isn't exactly doing blockbuster sales, despite a lot of advertising by some big companies. --I spin down the dial and notice that the main signal of stations like WROR and WMJX sounds good for a few seconds, then when the HD light stops blinking it's even better. Maybe it's like hearing "FM Wide" vs. regular FM stereo, or "FM Stereo" vs. FM mono. This is on "ear buds" (I was actually using a pair of earbuds I got on a Sony portable digital recorder). Is it blow-your-mind excellent sound quality? Not really that much but not that bad either. --The "extra stations", the "hidden ones" seems to be what HD is promoting. The idea is for people to buy these radios and hear them for free instead of buying a satellite radio. I have that, too (XM) and when I drive I can hear classic country, ballgames from all over, the sound portion of news channels, music from various decades, "new wave hits of the 80s", blues, jazz, and so on. Some of these types of formats do pop up on the local stations under HD2 or HD3. There is an HD website out there which lists them but it's not necessarily accurate. I think they listed "comedy" as the HD2 under WAAF. Wrong. "Blues" was listed as the HD2 for WKAF. Wrong. To the best of my knowledge those formats never aired on those HD2s. (Blues, however, is on the HD2 for WZLX) --Some AM news/talk stations have popped up on HD. Perhaps those who have trouble picking up the stations-- interference in an apartment building or a workplace, or maybe the signal has to change direction after dark-- can tune in. WXKS 1200 is on sister station WXKS-FM's HD2. WEEI is supposedly on both the HD2s of WAAF (west of Boston--makes sense, as they have problems after dark) and WKAF (_that_ one I can get in, but I can only get the main signal of WAAF). WRKO is supposedly on the HD3 of WAAF. And WBZ AM is on WBZ-FM's HD 3. --For those who were getting trouble picking up WCRB at 99.5, WGBH offers it as an HD2 on their 89.7 signal. --Formats I can pick up on my portable include Nothing But the 70s, 80s Rock, blues, Irish, "Radio You" (alternative?), rhythmic AC (for those who miss "Star 93.7"), hiphop, "Freeform BCN", soft hits, smooth jazz, classic country, etc. --Reception? It depends where you are. I think they have to only push out a certain amount of power to avoid interference. Sometimes you don't get an HD2 or HD3 at all. Other times, it comes in, but for a second but then quickly drops--and a "Channel No Longer Available" text hits the display. Speaking of display, song titles often pop up (similar to satellite radio). I WILL say that it's pretty good for plain old FM reception. Maybe it's the time of year but Cape Cod stations at 104.7, 106.1, 96.3 (WEII), etc do come in well. I also am getting an 88.7 which I think is a religious station out of Sanford, ME So...is it worth it? As a portable, it's not bad, but I get the feeling most people either don't know about HD or don't care. If I were a salesman I'd say that the $40 portable isn't that much more expensive than a regular AM-FM walkman and "you get a lot of extra stations". But do most people simply accept what's out there and don't care about the "extra stations"? Hey, they like Mike 93.7 or the new country on 102.5, etc., and they're fine with that. Some folks might like the extra formats-- smooth jazz! Classic country! Or the ability to hear some AM stations without static etc. (I will add in some cases certain stations are being squeezed off the air, like WJMF down in RI, and they wind up on HD. As WCRB is taking over their main signal at 88.7, the college radio stuff is being sent to the Web--and to HD. How many of their listeners will bother buying an HD radio?) So the question is, is HD what it's cracked up to be in the ads? Will it succeed? So far it doesn't seem like it has the mass appeal they'd hoped for. Perhaps if more HD radios wound up being put into cars, or if there were competitively priced (some say there already are) component units or portables, it might do better. Or do people rather intend to buy phones with apps that can pick up stations, or are people waiting for wifi radios to show up in cars (already happening in some cases?) Someone like me who wants a bit of variety can enjoy an HD radio but will the masses warm up to it? It seems so far like it hasn't quite caught on... Comments?--Bob Nelson From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Aug 11 15:03:43 2011 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:03:43 +0000 Subject: Some thoughts on local HD radio Message-ID: <20110811190343.218740@gmx.com> Right... The "decades" channels on XM are pretty popular--ad free, and it's neat to hear stuff like old 70s countdowns of American Top 40, with no commercial interruptions. I listened to Rush for a moment on WXKS 1200 in my car and when they went into an ad break they had an liner saying "WXKS HD 2 at 107.9, Talk 1200 is on HD radio" or something like it (a promo for that). ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Hall Sent: 08/11/11 02:24 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: RE: Some thoughts on local HD radio The thing I like best about my two Sony HD table radios is that, aside from AM simulcasts, most HD2/3 stations are still (probably not by choice) "commercial free". Some of the programming is admittedly "niche" programming that would not (or did not) do well on an analog FM station. But it's nice to have it available. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Thu Aug 11 15:55:16 2011 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:55:16 -0400 Subject: touch 106 FM References: <15644940.1312749323621.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > Though I have not necessarily been happy with all > things Obama myself, I find it ludicrous how his > detractors try to blame anything and everything > that they don't like in this country on him, with > a blind eye to how long the same issues have been > going on long before him. Wasn't it the same way (except reverse sides) for Bush? He is/was to blame for everything! From vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net Thu Aug 11 17:52:20 2011 From: vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net (=?utf-8?b?RG91ZyBEcm93bg==?=) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:52:20 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership Message-ID: <20110811175220.c4ueb01xk4sos4wo@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Here's an interesting question for everyone on the Board: ?Who can come up with names of women who have owned broadcasting stations? ? This occurred to me this morning. ?I can think of two off the top of my head: ?Katharine Graham, obviously, of Post-Newsweek; and Helen Sloane Dudman and daughter Martha, who for years owned WDEA and WWMJ in Ellsworth, Maine. ?Beyond them, I'm scratching my head trying to think of others. ? -Doug From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Aug 11 19:07:47 2011 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:07:47 -0500 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership In-Reply-To: <20110811175220.c4ueb01xk4sos4wo@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20110811175220.c4ueb01xk4sos4wo@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: It's not in New England, but KZZJ 1450 Rugby, ND is owned entirely by a woman, Lila Harstad. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > Here's an interesting question for everyone on the Board: Who can come up > with names of women who have owned broadcasting stations? This occurred to > me this morning. I can think of two off the top of my head: Katharine > Graham, obviously, of Post-Newsweek; and Helen Sloane Dudman and daughter > Martha, who for years owned WDEA and WWMJ in Ellsworth, Maine. Beyond them, > I'm scratching my head trying to think of others. -Doug > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Aug 11 19:13:43 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:13:43 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership In-Reply-To: <20110811175220.c4ueb01xk4sos4wo@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20110811175220.c4ueb01xk4sos4wo@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <4E446227.6040708@attorneyross.com> On 8/11/2011 5:52 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > Here's an interesting question for everyone on the Board: Who can come up with names of women who have owned broadcasting stations? This occurred to me this morning. I can think of two off the top of my head: Katharine Graham, obviously, of Post-Newsweek; and Helen Sloane Dudman and daughter Martha, who for years owned WDEA and WWMJ in Ellsworth, Maine. Beyond them, I'm scratching my head trying to think of others. -Doug Didn't Ladybird Johnson own a few stations in Texas? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Aug 11 20:16:11 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:16:11 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership In-Reply-To: <20110811194924.xc7bq5hrco4g8k4k@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20110811194924.xc7bq5hrco4g8k4k@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <4E4470CB.30907@donnahalper.com> On 8/11/2011 7:49 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > Brava to the estimable Ms. Zimmerman! She was an amazing lady. Her husband, Bob, was 100% supportive of her radio career. He was the city engineer in Vinton IA, so he built the station (and even built a portable version that she could drive around), and then she ran it. Unfortunately, she ran out of money after a year, but that happened a lot in early radio, where there were no sponsorships and you either paid out of your pocket or you relied on a corporation like Westinghouse or GE. There were several other women who briefly owned stations in the late 1920s-- in Oregon and in Arizona. But as I said, the first women I know to go on the air here was WOCB. Here's how the Barnstable Patriot explained it: 1940 Radio station WOCB, the new Cape Cod station located on South Sea avenue, West Yarmouth, went on the air for the first time... It will be found at 1210 on the waveband, or 121 on sets which knock off the zeros. WOCB is operated by the Cape Cod Broadcasting Company, of which Miss Helen W. MacLellan and Miss Harriett M. Alleman of Osterville are principal figures. Its broadcasting studio was built in early summer, and is a story and a half structure of Colonial design. From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Aug 11 19:44:14 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:44:14 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership In-Reply-To: <20110811175220.c4ueb01xk4sos4wo@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20110811175220.c4ueb01xk4sos4wo@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <4E44694E.4040302@donnahalper.com> On 8/11/2011 5:52 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > Here's an interesting question for everyone on the Board: Who can come up with names of women who have owned broadcasting stations? This occurred to me this morning. I can think of two off the top of my head: Katharine Graham, obviously, of Post-Newsweek; and Helen Sloane Dudman and daughter Martha, who for years owned WDEA and WWMJ in Ellsworth, Maine. Beyond them, I'm scratching my head trying to think of others. > Do you mean just in New England, or everywhere? In New England, the first women owners I know about were in 1940 when two women bought WOCB on Cape Cod. I'll go find their names for you. But the first woman in the USA to own a station was Marie Zimmerman of Vinton Iowa, who put WIAE on the air in the summer of 1922. From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Aug 11 20:56:34 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:56:34 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership In-Reply-To: <20110811194924.xc7bq5hrco4g8k4k@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20110811194924.xc7bq5hrco4g8k4k@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <4E447A42.2030302@donnahalper.com> On 8/11/2011 7:49 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > Brava to the estimable Ms. Zimmerman! So, if you are keeping score, in August 1922, the first woman owner was Marie (Mrs Robert) Zimmerman, who put WIAE in Vinton IA on the air. The next woman owner, in December 1925, was Mary Costigan, a theater owner in Flagstaff AZ who put KFXY on the air. Other women owners inherited their husband's station when he died-- Blanche Virgin (real name, btw) inherited KMED in Medford OR in mid-1928 and continued to run it; Ida McNeil of Pierre SD also inherited when her husband died and ran KGFX from 1927 into the 1940s. I wrote about a lot of this in my third book, "Invisible Stars: A Social History of Women in American Broadcasting" back in 2001. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Aug 11 22:51:52 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 22:51:52 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership References: <20110811175220.c4ueb01xk4sos4wo@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: I don't remember her name, but (Kathy ), the CEO of Radio One, which owns a bunch of stations, is a woman--an African-American woman, at that. And in its heyday, wasn't the legendary WDIA Memphis owned by a woman? I also wonder how many names you might turn up if you were to Google "women owners of US radio stations past and present." I suppose that being the general manager of a hightly successful independent station in market #1 in the 1940s doesn't really count in the ownership category because I don't know how large her ownership stake (if any) was, but in the '40s, Bernice (Tudi) Judis was, I believe, PD, and eventually GM, of the legendary WNEW (AM) in New York City. She is credited with originating the music-and-news format, with which WNEW competed very effectively against the major-network O&Os of the day. I don't know whether Ms Judis's life story has ever been turned into a book, and if it hasn't, it may be too late to write such a book, since Ms Judis and nearly all of the many show-biz legends who often paid homage to her are also long gone, but if no such book was ever written and Donna wanted to write another potential best-seller, a biography of Ms Judis would seem to be an excellent candidate. If the book turned out well, I can even imagine it being turned into a movie staring, say, Meryl Streep;>) ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:52 PM Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership > Here's an interesting question for everyone on the Board: Who can > come up with names of women who have owned broadcasting stations? > This occurred to me this morning. I can think of two off the top of > my head: Katharine Graham, obviously, of Post-Newsweek; and Helen > Sloane Dudman and daughter Martha, who for years owned WDEA and WWMJ > in Ellsworth, Maine. Beyond them, I'm scratching my head trying to > think of others. -Doug > > From vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net Thu Aug 11 23:28:41 2011 From: vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net (=?utf-8?b?RG91ZyBEcm93bg==?=) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:28:41 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership Message-ID: <20110811232841.6o4xp13saokk8c84@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Indeed. ?And then there was Ruth Meyer, the legendary former PD of WMCA, WHN and WNEW in New York, who died early this year. ?Like the late Mac Richmond, Miss Meyer had an instinct for knowing what constituted great radio. ? -Doug On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 22:51:52 -0400, "Dan.Strassberg" wrote: I don't remember her name, but (Kathy ), the CEO of Radio > One, which owns a bunch of stations, is a woman--an African-American > woman, at that. And in its heyday, wasn't the legendary WDIA Memphis > owned by a woman? I also wonder how many names you might turn up if > you were to Google "women owners of US radio stations past and > present." > > I suppose that being the general manager of a hightly successful > independent station in market #1 in the 1940s doesn't really count in > the ownership category because I don't know how large her ownership > stake (if any) was, but in the '40s, Bernice (Tudi) Judis was, I > believe, PD, and eventually GM, of the legendary WNEW (AM) in New York > City. She is credited with originating the music-and-news format, with > which WNEW competed very effectively against the major-network O&Os of > the day. > > I don't know whether Ms Judis's life story has ever been turned into a > book, and if it hasn't, it may be too late to write such a book, since > Ms Judis and nearly all of the many show-biz legends who often paid > homage to her are also long gone, but if no such book was ever written > and Donna wanted to write another potential best-seller, a biography > of Ms Judis would seem to be an excellent candidate. If the book > turned out well, I can even imagine it being turned into a movie > staring, say, Meryl Streep;>) > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:52 PM > Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership > > > > Here's an interesting question for everyone on the Board: Who can > > come up with names of women who have owned broadcasting stations? > > This occurred to me this morning. I can think of two off the top of > > my head: Katharine Graham, obviously, of Post-Newsweek; and Helen > > Sloane Dudman and daughter Martha, who for years owned WDEA and WWMJ > > in Ellsworth, Maine. Beyond them, I'm scratching my head trying to > > think of others. -Doug > > > > > > From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Aug 11 22:27:51 2011 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 22:27:51 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership In-Reply-To: <4E447A42.2030302@donnahalper.com> References: <20110811194924.xc7bq5hrco4g8k4k@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <4E447A42.2030302@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <579CEAF0-5AF7-47C5-800B-62CEE23887CD@mac.com> On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > On 8/11/2011 7:49 PM, Doug Drown wrote: >> Brava to the estimable Ms. Zimmerman! > > So, if you are keeping score, in August 1922, the first woman owner was Marie (Mrs Robert) Zimmerman, who put WIAE in Vinton IA on the air. The next woman owner, in December 1925, was Mary Costigan, a theater owner in Flagstaff AZ who put KFXY on the air. Other women owners inherited their husband's station when he died-- Blanche Virgin (real name, btw) inherited KMED in Medford OR in mid-1928 and continued to run it; Ida McNeil of Pierre SD also inherited when her husband died and ran KGFX from 1927 into the 1940s. I wrote about a lot of this in my third book, "Invisible Stars: A Social History of Women in American Broadcasting" back in 2001. I seem to recall that at one point WPLM may have been owned by a woman who inherited it. Am I remembering correctly? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Aug 11 23:30:20 2011 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:30:20 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership In-Reply-To: <20110811175220.c4ueb01xk4sos4wo@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20110811175220.c4ueb01xk4sos4wo@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <4E449E4C.7070901@ttlc.net> WEEI was owned by Helen Broadcasting a.k.a. Helen & Michael Valerio (owners of Papa Gino's. ) Or are you stipulating that all the owners must be female? On 8/11/2011 5:52 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > Here's an interesting question for everyone on the Board: Who can come up with names of women who have owned broadcasting stations? This occurred to me this morning. I can think of two off the top of my head: Katharine Graham, obviously, of Post-Newsweek; and Helen Sloane Dudman and daughter Martha, who for years owned WDEA and WWMJ in Ellsworth, Maine. Beyond them, I'm scratching my head trying to think of others. -Doug > > > > > From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Aug 11 23:34:54 2011 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:34:54 -0400 Subject: Some thoughts on local HD radio In-Reply-To: <006401cc5853$e1e569a0$a5b03ce0$@ma@comcast.net> References: <20110811162057.218730@gmx.com> <006401cc5853$e1e569a0$a5b03ce0$@ma@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20036.40798.68593.252377@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > The thing I like best about my two Sony HD table radios is that, > aside from AM simulcasts, most HD2/3 stations are still (probably > not by choice) "commercial free". Some of the programming is > admittedly "niche" programming that would not (or did not) do well > on an analog FM station. But it's nice to have it available. The think I like most about my Sony XDR-F1HD is that it's a *hot* FM tuner, HD or no. I take it on trips for airchecking. I do have the Sangean component HD tuner downstairs in the living room, where having HD really helps to pull out decent audio from the multipathy Boston FMs (WGBH in particular). -GAWollman From vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net Thu Aug 11 19:49:24 2011 From: vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net (=?utf-8?b?RG91ZyBEcm93bg==?=) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:49:24 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership Message-ID: <20110811194924.xc7bq5hrco4g8k4k@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Brava to the estimable Ms. Zimmerman! ? I hadn't known that WOCB had had female owners, either. ? My question is in regard to everywhere, not just New England, despite its being our focus of interest. ? -Doug On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:44:14 -0400, Donna Halper wrote: On 8/11/2011 5:52 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > > Here's an interesting question for everyone on the Board: Who can > come up with names of women who have owned broadcasting stations? > This occurred to me this morning. I can think of two off the top of > my head: Katharine Graham, obviously, of Post-Newsweek; and Helen > Sloane Dudman and daughter Martha, who for years owned WDEA and WWMJ > in Ellsworth, Maine. Beyond them, I'm scratching my head trying to > think of others. > > Do you mean just in New England, or everywhere? In New England, > the first women owners I know about were in 1940 when two women > bought WOCB on Cape Cod. I'll go find their names for you. But the > first woman in the USA to own a station was Marie Zimmerman of Vinton > Iowa, who put WIAE on the air in the summer of 1922. > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Aug 11 23:43:20 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:43:20 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership In-Reply-To: References: <20110811175220.c4ueb01xk4sos4wo@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <4E44A158.7040909@donnahalper.com> On 8/11/2011 10:51 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I don't remember her name, but (Kathy ), the CEO of Radio > One, which owns a bunch of stations, is a woman--an African-American > woman, at that. And in its heyday, wasn't the legendary WDIA Memphis > owned by a woman? Kathy Hughes is the lady who owns Radio One. She and her son Alfred Liggins run it. As for WDIA in Memphis, while they had a woman who was a well-known announcer (Martha Jean "the Queen" Steinberg) , the station was owned by three white men and the DIA stood for the name of the wife of one of them (Dianne). It may eventually have been sold to a woman, but I don't think so. There have been several black women in Chicago who owned radio stations, and a woman who died recently (Dorothy Brunson) was the first black woman to own both a TV station and a radio station (one in Philly and one in Baltimore). From vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net Thu Aug 11 23:44:23 2011 From: vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net (=?utf-8?b?RG91ZyBEcm93bg==?=) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:44:23 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership Message-ID: <20110811234423.ou1hxoc1cswkss0c@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Mrs. Valerio would count, though I'm looking primarily for solely-female owners. ? BTW, the Dudmans (below) really put the two Maine stations on the map --- a classy operation. ?Helen Dudman had previously been with The Washington Post and knew quite a bit about broadcasting. ?She turned WWMJ (former WDEA-FM) into the top-rated oldies station in the Bangor region, and WDEA became a first-rate 5-kw full-service station for the whole Down East area, broadcasting a nostalgia format with local news, sports and other features. ?They're now owned by Cumulus, which has been wise enough not to change things. ?WDEA has been with CBS for nearly 50 years. ?? On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:30:20 -0400, Roger Kirk wrote: WEEI was owned by Helen Broadcasting a.k.a. Helen & Michael Valerio > (owners of Papa Gino's. ) > > Or are you stipulating that all the owners must be female? > > > On 8/11/2011 5:52 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > > Here's an interesting question for everyone on the Board: Who can > come up with names of women who have owned broadcasting stations? > This occurred to me this morning. I can think of two off the top of > my head: Katharine Graham, obviously, of Post-Newsweek; and Helen > Sloane Dudman and daughter Martha, who for years owned WDEA and WWMJ > in Ellsworth, Maine. Beyond them, I'm scratching my head trying to > think of others. -Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Aug 11 23:28:17 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:28:17 -0400 Subject: touch 106 FM In-Reply-To: References: <15644940.1312749323621.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4E449DD1.5060305@attorneyross.com> On 8/11/2011 3:55 PM, Don wrote: > >> Though I have not necessarily been happy with all >> things Obama myself, I find it ludicrous how his detractors try to >> blame anything and everything that they don't like in this country on >> him, with >> a blind eye to how long the same issues have been >> going on long before him. > > > Wasn't it the same way (except reverse sides) for Bush? > > He is/was to blame for everything! I thought we weren't supposed to have political commentary on this list. If we are to have it, I can answer this at length, but for the present, I won't. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Aug 12 00:52:17 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 00:52:17 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership In-Reply-To: <20110811234423.ou1hxoc1cswkss0c@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20110811234423.ou1hxoc1cswkss0c@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <4E44B181.9080509@donnahalper.com> On 8/11/2011 11:44 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > > BTW, the Dudmans (below) really put the two Maine stations on the map > --- a classy operation. Helen Dudman had previously been with The > Washington Post and knew quite a bit about broadcasting. She turned > WWMJ (former WDEA-FM) into the top-rated oldies station in the Bangor > region, and WDEA became a first-rate 5-kw full-service station for the > whole Down East area, broadcasting a nostalgia format with local news, > sports and other features. And for about four years, when they were making some of those moves, their consultant was... your humble servant. Had a great time up there-- loved the area. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri Aug 12 04:19:33 2011 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 4:19:33 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership In-Reply-To: <20110811175220.c4ueb01xk4sos4wo@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <20110812081933.9YHPN.128452.root@hrndva-web16-z01> ---- Doug Drown wrote: > Here's an interesting question for everyone on the Board: ?Who can come up with names of women who have owned broadcasting stations? ? > > Caroline Hoy took over ownership of WIDE/WBYC in Biddeford, Maine for her husband Parker after he passed. From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Aug 12 06:54:04 2011 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 06:54:04 -0400 Subject: Some thoughts on local HD radio In-Reply-To: <20036.40798.68593.252377@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <20110811162057.218730@gmx.com> <006401cc5853$e1e569a0$a5b03ce0$@ma@comcast.net> <20036.40798.68593.252377@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <002d01cc58de$27c13820$7743a860$@net> > The think I like most about my Sony XDR-F1HD is that it's a *hot* FM > tuner, HD or no. I take it on trips for airchecking. It's a real shame that Sony discontinued this line of tuners/radios. The selectivity on these things for DX is unbelievable. I have the XDR-S3HD, which is the same tuner inside a "clock radio" with speakers that have excellent sound. I bring it on trips all the time as well... wish I could find another one for a good price, but the prices on all of these radios have skyrocketed on ebay. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Fri Aug 12 07:39:46 2011 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 07:39:46 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership References: <20110811232841.6o4xp13saokk8c84@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: I hope I'm not going too far off-point, but the legendary Music Director of WNEW, Gertie Katzman is worthy of mention. When I lived in the Big Apple the air staff would often give her credit for finding a special record just for their show. I believe she also worked for WIP, Philly and later became a record promoter. If any of you know more I love to know. Cheers, Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: ; "Dan.Strassberg" Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:28 PM Subject: Re: Women in broadcasting ownership > Indeed. And then there was Ruth Meyer, the legendary former PD of WMCA, > WHN and WNEW in New York, who died early this year. Like the late Mac > Richmond, Miss Meyer had an instinct for knowing what constituted great > radio. -Doug > > On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 22:51:52 -0400, "Dan.Strassberg" wrote: > I don't remember her name, but (Kathy ), the CEO of Radio >> One, which owns a bunch of stations, is a woman--an African-American >> woman, at that. And in its heyday, wasn't the legendary WDIA Memphis >> owned by a woman? I also wonder how many names you might turn up if >> you were to Google "women owners of US radio stations past and >> present." >> >> I suppose that being the general manager of a hightly successful >> independent station in market #1 in the 1940s doesn't really count in >> the ownership category because I don't know how large her ownership >> stake (if any) was, but in the '40s, Bernice (Tudi) Judis was, I >> believe, PD, and eventually GM, of the legendary WNEW (AM) in New York >> City. She is credited with originating the music-and-news format, with >> which WNEW competed very effectively against the major-network O&Os of >> the day. >> I don't know whether Ms Judis's life story has ever been turned into a >> book, and if it hasn't, it may be too late to write such a book, since >> Ms Judis and nearly all of the many show-biz legends who often paid >> homage to her are also long gone, but if no such book was ever written >> and Donna wanted to write another potential best-seller, a biography >> of Ms Judis would seem to be an excellent candidate. If the book >> turned out well, I can even imagine it being turned into a movie >> staring, say, Meryl Streep;>) >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" >> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:52 PM >> Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership >> >> >> > Here's an interesting question for everyone on the Board: Who can >> > come up with names of women who have owned broadcasting stations? >> > This occurred to me this morning. I can think of two off the top of >> > my head: Katharine Graham, obviously, of Post-Newsweek; and Helen >> > Sloane Dudman and daughter Martha, who for years owned WDEA and WWMJ >> > in Ellsworth, Maine. Beyond them, I'm scratching my head trying to >> > think of others. -Doug >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > From atolz@comcast.net Fri Aug 12 10:19:59 2011 From: atolz@comcast.net (Alan Tolz) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:19:59 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership References: <20110811232841.6o4xp13saokk8c84@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: Dolly Banks...the "D" in WWDB FM, Philadephia. She, along with her brother Billy ("the B"), pioneered FM talk in the late 1970's after having run that station as a jazz station, along with WHAT AM in Philadelphia through the 50's and 60's. Two other interesting points surrounding her ownership...she was the VP/GM, her brother was not at the radio station daily. Her Ops. Mgr was Sid Mark, he of the longest running radio show in Philadelphia history, "Friday with Frank" - a 4 hour Sinatra show, still on the air at WPHT 1210. She was also the original "Mary Mason", on WHAT AM...a morning drive talk host with programming focused on the African-American community. She turned over the reigns in the late '60s to Bea Elmore who became "Mary Mason" and had continued that show for 30+ years... Alan Tolz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Larsen" To: "Doug Drown" ; ; "Dan.Strassberg" Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 7:39 AM Subject: Re: Women in broadcasting ownership >I hope I'm not going too far off-point, but the legendary Music Director of >WNEW, Gertie Katzman > is worthy of mention. When I lived in the Big Apple the air staff would > often give her credit for > finding a special record just for their show. > > I believe she also worked for WIP, Philly and later became a record > promoter. > > If any of you know more I love to know. > > Cheers, > Ted > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Drown" > To: ; "Dan.Strassberg" > > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:28 PM > Subject: Re: Women in broadcasting ownership > > >> Indeed. And then there was Ruth Meyer, the legendary former PD of WMCA, >> WHN and WNEW in New York, who died early this year. Like the late Mac >> Richmond, Miss Meyer had an instinct for knowing what constituted great >> radio. -Doug >> >> On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 22:51:52 -0400, "Dan.Strassberg" wrote: >> I don't remember her name, but (Kathy ), the CEO of Radio >>> One, which owns a bunch of stations, is a woman--an African-American >>> woman, at that. And in its heyday, wasn't the legendary WDIA Memphis >>> owned by a woman? I also wonder how many names you might turn up if >>> you were to Google "women owners of US radio stations past and >>> present." >>> >>> I suppose that being the general manager of a hightly successful >>> independent station in market #1 in the 1940s doesn't really count in >>> the ownership category because I don't know how large her ownership >>> stake (if any) was, but in the '40s, Bernice (Tudi) Judis was, I >>> believe, PD, and eventually GM, of the legendary WNEW (AM) in New York >>> City. She is credited with originating the music-and-news format, with >>> which WNEW competed very effectively against the major-network O&Os of >>> the day. >>> I don't know whether Ms Judis's life story has ever been turned into a >>> book, and if it hasn't, it may be too late to write such a book, since >>> Ms Judis and nearly all of the many show-biz legends who often paid >>> homage to her are also long gone, but if no such book was ever written >>> and Donna wanted to write another potential best-seller, a biography >>> of Ms Judis would seem to be an excellent candidate. If the book >>> turned out well, I can even imagine it being turned into a movie >>> staring, say, Meryl Streep;>) >>> >>> ----- >>> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >>> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:52 PM >>> Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership >>> >>> >>> > Here's an interesting question for everyone on the Board: Who can >>> > come up with names of women who have owned broadcasting stations? >>> > This occurred to me this morning. I can think of two off the top of >>> > my head: Katharine Graham, obviously, of Post-Newsweek; and Helen >>> > Sloane Dudman and daughter Martha, who for years owned WDEA and WWMJ >>> > in Ellsworth, Maine. Beyond them, I'm scratching my head trying to >>> > think of others. -Doug >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Aug 12 11:34:08 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:34:08 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership In-Reply-To: References: <20110811232841.6o4xp13saokk8c84@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <4E4547F0.5040203@donnahalper.com> On 8/12/2011 7:39 AM, Ted Larsen wrote: > I hope I'm not going too far off-point, but the legendary Music > Director of WNEW, Gertie Katzman > is worthy of mention. When I lived in the Big Apple the air staff > would often give her credit for > finding a special record just for their show. And there was Bernice Judis, one of the few women GMs back in the old days-- she managed (and some say was part owner of) WNEW in NY. From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Fri Aug 12 12:43:04 2011 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:43:04 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership References: <20110811232841.6o4xp13saokk8c84@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <4E4547F0.5040203@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <5832D7822AB84A2FB115BB81894B35C0@YOURbcbbe822ed> Hi Donna: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Ted Larsen" Cc: "Doug Drown" ; ; "Dan.Strassberg" Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Women in broadcasting ownership > On 8/12/2011 7:39 AM, Ted Larsen wrote: >> I hope I'm not going too far off-point, but the legendary Music Director >> of WNEW, Gertie Katzman >> is worthy of mention. When I lived in the Big Apple the air staff would >> often give her credit for >> finding a special record just for their show. > > And there was Bernice Judis, one of the few women GMs back in the old > days-- she managed (and some say was part owner of) WNEW in NY. Hi Donna: I found her obit from the "New York Times." She was certainly responsible for a lot of "firsts" http://www.nytimes.com/1983/05/26/obituaries/bernice-judis-is-dead-at-83-headed-radio-station-wnew.html Feisty as well http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,814974,00.html According to a 1951 issue of "Look Magazine, she was part owner. "Bernice Judis is the general manage and part owner of WNEW, radio station." It's from a dealer in old magazines. http://2neat.com/magazines/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1280 From markwats@comcast.net Fri Aug 12 18:00:03 2011 From: markwats@comcast.net (markwats@comcast.net) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Paperwork Filed With FCC For Transfer Of Ownership Of WCAP To Sam Poulten Message-ID: <324106598.85462.1313186403504.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> The Lowell Sun reports that paperwork has been filed with the FCC this week ?for the transfer of ownership of WCAP entirely to Sam Poulten. Poulten will be buying out co-owner Clark Smidt's share of ownership according to a purchase & sale agreement signed by both parties on June 28th, with Poulten paying?Smidt?over $170,000, plus depositing $40,000 into the station's operating account at a local bank. As a result of this agreement, both Smidt & Poulten will be withdrawing lawsuits each filed against the other. Smidt recently vacated his office at?WCAP's Lowell studios. ?FCC approval expected in early October. Link to Sun article: http://www.lowellsun.com/todaysheadlines/ci_18667950 Mark Watson ? From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Aug 12 19:08:27 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:08:27 -0400 Subject: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July Message-ID: http://www.boston.com/sports/touching_all_the_bases/2011/08/media_linkage_and_more_arbitro.html Only the Red Sox games in the evening are keeping them close. I am sure the Entrercom buying WFNX rumors will start again but I don't think 101.7 is strong enough unless they just simulcast 850. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Aug 12 22:46:24 2011 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:46:24 -0400 Subject: WILD without CRI programming? Message-ID: <1AF4159B8BBD4DD7830DF4060056BCFC@s20035> Driving in the Metro Boston area today, and I noticed WILD was back to playing soul. Natalie Cole, etc. Is the CRI experiment over? From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 13 00:33:47 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:33:47 -0400 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership In-Reply-To: <5832D7822AB84A2FB115BB81894B35C0@YOURbcbbe822ed> References: <20110811232841.6o4xp13saokk8c84@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <4E4547F0.5040203@donnahalper.com> <5832D7822AB84A2FB115BB81894B35C0@YOURbcbbe822ed> Message-ID: <4E45FEAB.3080403@attorneyross.com> Come to think of it, didn't WILD have a woman owner at some point? Or am I remembering wrong? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Aug 13 05:23:23 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 05:23:23 -0400 Subject: Fw: Women in broadcasting ownership Message-ID: <51A916B4B9E84B77A581BFD1905452A0@SatU205S5044> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "A Joseph Ross" Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 4:58 AM Subject: Re: Women in broadcasting ownership >I believe that you are correct. She was the widow of the male owner. > Her name was Bernadette (or Bernadine) . The name of the > licensee was Sheridan Broadcasting, but that doesn't mean that the > lady's last name was necessarily Sheridan. She ran the station quite > well; talented air-staff and I believe that, despite being a > relatively low-powered AM daytimer without pre-sunrise authority, > they > were making money. IIRC, though, the technical side of the operation > was chronically under-funded. Nevertheless, perhaps because the > contract engineer was the super-talented Grady Moates, the station > sounded good over the air. Also, didn't WILD broadcast in AM Stereo > for many years? Moreover, I think WILD was one of the first (maybe > even THE first) AM in this market to run AM-band IBOC. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Joseph Ross" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:33 AM > Subject: Re: Women in broadcasting ownership > > >> Come to think of it, didn't WILD have a woman owner at some point? >> Or am I remembering wrong? >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 >> Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com >> > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Aug 13 08:36:47 2011 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:36:47 -0400 Subject: WILD without CRI programming? In-Reply-To: <1AF4159B8BBD4DD7830DF4060056BCFC@s20035> References: <1AF4159B8BBD4DD7830DF4060056BCFC@s20035> Message-ID: I just tuned in and it sounds like it's back on; perhaps a tech. difficulty or an open spot in schedule for it. (As of 8:34 am, low volume...an interview of a man who is talking about "Republicans who aren't following their speaker, John Boehner, but instead are going with the Tea Party, and pursuing an amendment to balance the budget" etc. The interviewer has a slight Chinese accent, and for some reason the volume level of the person being interviewed (on phone or live?) was higher than that of the "host"...) On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Don wrote: > Driving in the Metro Boston area today, and I noticed WILD was back to > playing soul. ?Natalie Cole, etc. > > Is the CRI experiment over? > > > From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Aug 13 10:35:54 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:35:54 -0400 Subject: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FM options are pretty limited for Entercom I wonder if any thought has been given to going to Greater Media and perhaps working out some kind of a swap with 96.9 being the focal point. (Maybe offer them both 680 and 850 plus cash) - Then GM could merge their talk format with whatever they want from WRKO and then use 850 for pure ESPN radio) In any event WEEI has to be wondering what has happened to The Big Show...Felger and Mazz are just killing them now. On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > The rumor of Entercom buying WFNX awhile back was notable in that the > only media source that was reporting it was a weekly publication (and > online site) called the Weekly Dig. Nobody else had it, and both > Entercom and the Phoenix denied it. Funny...a rival to the Boston > Phoenix spreading a rumor of the Phoenix selling off their radio > outlet...just to tweak them I guess. > > An FM presence for the sports talk and Red Sox/Celtics games may > happen eventually, as it has in other markets, but as noted before > Entercom is apparently doing well with > WAAF, WKAF, and WMKK and might not change them. WEEI is now on the HD2 > signals of WAAF and WKAF, not that too many people yet have HD radios > or plan to get them. > > For Red Sox games, WBOQ in Gloucester is an affiliate (not as powerful > as some would like, especially in some workplaces). If WMKK were to > //WEEI, or if somehow the Phoenix could indeed be convinced to sell > 101.7 to Entercom, either North Shore-based station (well, WMKK is > licensed to Lawrence but the stick is in Peabody) would pose a threat > to WBOQ--assuming Entercom would allow the Sox to continue on 104.9. > > WMKK's signal is pretty good, at least around here, but they don't > want to unplug the low cost, high profit "Mike". > By the way speaking of WBOQ, as Simon Geller continues to roll over in > his grave, > I do get to hear parts of some Sox games at work (in spots where it > does come in) > and the board op at "North Shore 104.9" has to often cut off promos and IDs > WEEI > runs. The voice of Jim Cutler starts to tell people about The Big Show > or Dale and > Holley, etc., and suddenly the board op has to inject some kind of WBOQ > promo > to squash it. I don't know if other Sox affiliates have the same > problem--I'd think > the Red Sox network must have a stream they can tap into where that > doesn't happen > but 104.9 for some reason winds up getting a stream where the WEEI promos > pop in, and they have to quickly move to cut off the promos... > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > > http://www.boston.com/sports/touching_all_the_bases/2011/08/media_linkage_and_more_arbitro.html > > > > Only the Red Sox games in the evening are keeping them close. > > > > I am sure the Entrercom buying WFNX rumors will start again but I don't > > think 101.7 is strong enough unless they just simulcast 850. > > > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Aug 13 08:48:08 2011 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:48:08 -0400 Subject: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The rumor of Entercom buying WFNX awhile back was notable in that the only media source that was reporting it was a weekly publication (and online site) called the Weekly Dig. Nobody else had it, and both Entercom and the Phoenix denied it. Funny...a rival to the Boston Phoenix spreading a rumor of the Phoenix selling off their radio outlet...just to tweak them I guess. An FM presence for the sports talk and Red Sox/Celtics games may happen eventually, as it has in other markets, but as noted before Entercom is apparently doing well with WAAF, WKAF, and WMKK and might not change them. WEEI is now on the HD2 signals of WAAF and WKAF, not that too many people yet have HD radios or plan to get them. For Red Sox games, WBOQ in Gloucester is an affiliate (not as powerful as some would like, especially in some workplaces). If WMKK were to //WEEI, or if somehow the Phoenix could indeed be convinced to sell 101.7 to Entercom, either North Shore-based station (well, WMKK is licensed to Lawrence but the stick is in Peabody) would pose a threat to WBOQ--assuming Entercom would allow the Sox to continue on 104.9. WMKK's signal is pretty good, at least around here, but they don't want to unplug the low cost, high profit "Mike". By the way speaking of WBOQ, as Simon Geller continues to roll over in his grave, I do get to hear parts of some Sox games at work (in spots where it does come in) and the board op at "North Shore 104.9" has to often cut off promos and IDs WEEI runs. The voice of Jim Cutler starts to tell people about The Big Show or Dale and Holley, etc., and suddenly the board op has to inject some kind of WBOQ promo to squash it. I don't know if other Sox affiliates have the same problem--I'd think the Red Sox network must have a stream they can tap into where that doesn't happen but 104.9 for some reason winds up getting a stream where the WEEI promos pop in, and they have to quickly move to cut off the promos... On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > http://www.boston.com/sports/touching_all_the_bases/2011/08/media_linkage_and_more_arbitro.html > > Only the Red Sox games in the evening are keeping them close. > > I am sure the Entrercom buying WFNX rumors will start again but I don't > think 101.7 is strong enough unless they just simulcast 850. > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Aug 13 12:43:37 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:43:37 -0400 Subject: Fw: Women in broadcasting ownership In-Reply-To: <51A916B4B9E84B77A581BFD1905452A0@SatU205S5044> References: <51A916B4B9E84B77A581BFD1905452A0@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4E46A9B9.3080808@donnahalper.com> On 8/13/2011 5:23 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > >> I believe that you are correct. She was the widow of the male owner. >> Her name was Bernadette (or Bernadine) . Yes, when Ken Nash (for whom I consulted) died of cancer, his wife-- and I believe her name was Bernadine-- inherited the station and continued to run it. Also, you are right about Grady Moates. We worked together at a number of stations and he is indeed among the best engineers anywhere. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Aug 13 14:00:15 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:00:15 -0400 Subject: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July References: Message-ID: GM is not an AM company. They do own one AM that I know of, however--WPEN--and they have upgraded its technical facilities to the max that was possible, but they are running it as a simulcast of a highly directional full Class-B FM that is better than a rimshot of its (Philadelphia) market. There is plenty of reason to believe that GM would let WPEN go if somebody were to make a decent offer for it. So why would a company that is not interested in AM and that spent ~$100 million about five years ago to acquire its last Boston-market FM trade away any of its Boston signals even for two 50-kW-U AMs? All of GM's Boston-area signals are full Class Bs, though three are licensed to suburbs--Waltham, Brookline, Framingham--plus two to Boston itself. And four of the five transmit from the Pru. They would have relocated WKLB to the Pru if it had been technically feasible but an IF problem with WUMB prevents such a move. My guess is that WRKO plus WEEI together are not worth as much as WTKK by itself. That would surely be GM's position if Entercom were to approach it about a swap. IMO, Entercom would have to sweeten the deal with a big FM signal in another market to get GM to even listen to its pitch--and even if that were part of a proposed deal, GM would still wind up laughing the Entercom emissary out the door. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Bob Nelson" Cc: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:35 AM Subject: Re: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July > FM options are pretty limited for Entercom > > I wonder if any thought has been given to going to Greater Media and > perhaps > working out some kind of a swap with 96.9 being the focal point. > (Maybe > offer them both 680 and 850 plus cash) - Then GM could merge their > talk > format with whatever they want from WRKO and then use 850 for pure > ESPN > radio) > > In any event WEEI has to be wondering what has happened to The Big > Show...Felger and Mazz are just killing them now. > > > > > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Bob Nelson > wrote: > >> The rumor of Entercom buying WFNX awhile back was notable in that >> the >> only media source that was reporting it was a weekly publication >> (and >> online site) called the Weekly Dig. Nobody else had it, and both >> Entercom and the Phoenix denied it. Funny...a rival to the Boston >> Phoenix spreading a rumor of the Phoenix selling off their radio >> outlet...just to tweak them I guess. >> >> An FM presence for the sports talk and Red Sox/Celtics games may >> happen eventually, as it has in other markets, but as noted before >> Entercom is apparently doing well with >> WAAF, WKAF, and WMKK and might not change them. WEEI is now on the >> HD2 >> signals of WAAF and WKAF, not that too many people yet have HD >> radios >> or plan to get them. >> >> For Red Sox games, WBOQ in Gloucester is an affiliate (not as >> powerful >> as some would like, especially in some workplaces). If WMKK were to >> //WEEI, or if somehow the Phoenix could indeed be convinced to sell >> 101.7 to Entercom, either North Shore-based station (well, WMKK is >> licensed to Lawrence but the stick is in Peabody) would pose a >> threat >> to WBOQ--assuming Entercom would allow the Sox to continue on >> 104.9. >> >> WMKK's signal is pretty good, at least around here, but they don't >> want to unplug the low cost, high profit "Mike". >> By the way speaking of WBOQ, as Simon Geller continues to roll over >> in >> his grave, >> I do get to hear parts of some Sox games at work (in spots where it >> does come in) >> and the board op at "North Shore 104.9" has to often cut off promos >> and IDs >> WEEI >> runs. The voice of Jim Cutler starts to tell people about The Big >> Show >> or Dale and >> Holley, etc., and suddenly the board op has to inject some kind of >> WBOQ >> promo >> to squash it. I don't know if other Sox affiliates have the same >> problem--I'd think >> the Red Sox network must have a stream they can tap into where that >> doesn't happen >> but 104.9 for some reason winds up getting a stream where the WEEI >> promos >> pop in, and they have to quickly move to cut off the promos... >> >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Kevin Vahey >> wrote: >> > >> http://www.boston.com/sports/touching_all_the_bases/2011/08/media_linkage_and_more_arbitro.html >> > >> > Only the Red Sox games in the evening are keeping them close. >> > >> > I am sure the Entrercom buying WFNX rumors will start again but I >> > don't >> > think 101.7 is strong enough unless they just simulcast 850. >> > >> From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sat Aug 13 14:47:03 2011 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:47:03 -0500 Subject: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great media only owns one AM.. how about.. 1110 WBT Charlotte? 1450 WCTC New Brunswick, NJ? WMTR 1250? On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > GM is not an AM company. They do own one AM that I know of, > however--WPEN--and they have upgraded its technical facilities to the > max that was possible, but they are running it as a simulcast of a > highly directional full Class-B FM that is better than a rimshot of > its (Philadelphia) market. There is plenty of reason to believe that > GM would let WPEN go if somebody were to make a decent offer for it. > So why would a company that is not interested in AM and that spent > ~$100 million about five years ago to acquire its last Boston-market > FM trade away any of its Boston signals even for two 50-kW-U AMs? All > of GM's Boston-area signals are full Class Bs, though three are > licensed to suburbs--Waltham, Brookline, Framingham--plus two to > Boston itself. And four of the five transmit from the Pru. They would > have relocated WKLB to the Pru if it had been technically feasible but > an IF problem with WUMB prevents such a move. My guess is that WRKO > plus WEEI together are not worth as much as WTKK by itself. That would > surely be GM's position if Entercom were to approach it about a swap. > IMO, Entercom would have to sweeten the deal with a big FM signal in > another market to get GM to even listen to its pitch--and even if that > were part of a proposed deal, GM would still wind up laughing the > Entercom emissary out the door. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" > To: "Bob Nelson" > Cc: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July > > > FM options are pretty limited for Entercom >> >> I wonder if any thought has been given to going to Greater Media and >> perhaps >> working out some kind of a swap with 96.9 being the focal point. >> (Maybe >> offer them both 680 and 850 plus cash) - Then GM could merge their >> talk >> format with whatever they want from WRKO and then use 850 for pure >> ESPN >> radio) >> >> In any event WEEI has to be wondering what has happened to The Big >> Show...Felger and Mazz are just killing them now. >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Bob Nelson >> wrote: >> >> The rumor of Entercom buying WFNX awhile back was notable in that >>> the >>> only media source that was reporting it was a weekly publication >>> (and >>> online site) called the Weekly Dig. Nobody else had it, and both >>> Entercom and the Phoenix denied it. Funny...a rival to the Boston >>> Phoenix spreading a rumor of the Phoenix selling off their radio >>> outlet...just to tweak them I guess. >>> >>> An FM presence for the sports talk and Red Sox/Celtics games may >>> happen eventually, as it has in other markets, but as noted before >>> Entercom is apparently doing well with >>> WAAF, WKAF, and WMKK and might not change them. WEEI is now on the >>> HD2 >>> signals of WAAF and WKAF, not that too many people yet have HD >>> radios >>> or plan to get them. >>> >>> For Red Sox games, WBOQ in Gloucester is an affiliate (not as >>> powerful >>> as some would like, especially in some workplaces). If WMKK were to >>> //WEEI, or if somehow the Phoenix could indeed be convinced to sell >>> 101.7 to Entercom, either North Shore-based station (well, WMKK is >>> licensed to Lawrence but the stick is in Peabody) would pose a >>> threat >>> to WBOQ--assuming Entercom would allow the Sox to continue on >>> 104.9. >>> >>> WMKK's signal is pretty good, at least around here, but they don't >>> want to unplug the low cost, high profit "Mike". >>> By the way speaking of WBOQ, as Simon Geller continues to roll over >>> in >>> his grave, >>> I do get to hear parts of some Sox games at work (in spots where it >>> does come in) >>> and the board op at "North Shore 104.9" has to often cut off promos >>> and IDs >>> WEEI >>> runs. The voice of Jim Cutler starts to tell people about The Big >>> Show >>> or Dale and >>> Holley, etc., and suddenly the board op has to inject some kind of >>> WBOQ >>> promo >>> to squash it. I don't know if other Sox affiliates have the same >>> problem--I'd think >>> the Red Sox network must have a stream they can tap into where that >>> doesn't happen >>> but 104.9 for some reason winds up getting a stream where the WEEI >>> promos >>> pop in, and they have to quickly move to cut off the promos... >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Kevin Vahey >>> wrote: >>> > >>> http://www.boston.com/sports/**touching_all_the_bases/2011/** >>> 08/media_linkage_and_more_**arbitro.html >>> > >>> > Only the Red Sox games in the evening are keeping them close. >>> > >>> > I am sure the Entrercom buying WFNX rumors will start again but I >>> > don't >>> > think 101.7 is strong enough unless they just simulcast 850. >>> > >>> >>> > From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sat Aug 13 15:28:13 2011 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:28:13 -0400 Subject: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July References: Message-ID: > FM options are pretty limited for Entercom > > I wonder if any thought has been given to going to Greater Media and > perhaps > working out some kind of a swap with 96.9 being the focal point. (Maybe > offer them both 680 and 850 plus cash) - Then GM could merge their talk > format with whatever they want from WRKO and then use 850 for pure ESPN > radio) I don't think Greater Media has ever been a company with any real interest in AM. Once in awhile they own a small AM to be part of a combo in a market, but most of their AM's seem to be run as an afterthought. I don't think it would ever be part of their company strategy. Besides, I'm sure they're content to watch Entercom grovel along for crumbs in this market. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Aug 13 17:48:04 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 17:48:04 -0400 Subject: Fw: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July Message-ID: <1207A7CF54E5495791C066EB23C7C7C4@SatU205S5044> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 5:47 PM Subject: Re: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July > Oops! You sure are right about WBT. I should not have forgotten it! > Even though WPEN is in a larger market, WBT is probably more > important to GM. Until the 2008 recession decimated the big banks > that were headquartered there, Charlotte was a much more > up-and-coming market than anyplace on the east coast north of > Florida. Also, although nobody thinks skywave reception is of any > economic value in the 21st century, I think WBT's status as a Class > A AM increases its economic vlaue. As for WCTC, I didn't check on it > because it's another station that I forgot. But I did check on WMTR > and concluded that, if GM indeed owns it, it does so through a > subsidiary because the owner is listed as Sentinel Publishing. And > there is another station in NJ (an 1170 daytimer whose calls escape > me at the moment) that is also listed as owned by Sentinel > Publishing. I think this daytimer simulcasts WMTR, but I'm not sure. > > I did not try to check on the number of FMs that GM owns vs the > number of AMs. I think that, despite my omission of several AMs, the > FMs still greatly outnumber the AMs. Clearly, though, my argument > that GM is an FM company is not as strong as I thought it was. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." > To: "Dan.Strassberg" > Cc: "Kevin Vahey" ; "Bob Nelson" > ; "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" > > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 2:47 PM > Subject: Re: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July > > >> Great media only owns one AM.. how about.. >> >> 1110 WBT Charlotte? >> >> 1450 WCTC New Brunswick, NJ? >> >> WMTR 1250? >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Dan.Strassberg >> wrote: >> >>> GM is not an AM company. They do own one AM that I know of, >>> however--WPEN--and they have upgraded its technical facilities to >>> the >>> max that was possible, but they are running it as a simulcast of a >>> highly directional full Class-B FM that is better than a rimshot >>> of >>> its (Philadelphia) market. There is plenty of reason to believe >>> that >>> GM would let WPEN go if somebody were to make a decent offer for >>> it. >>> So why would a company that is not interested in AM and that spent >>> ~$100 million about five years ago to acquire its last >>> Boston-market >>> FM trade away any of its Boston signals even for two 50-kW-U AMs? >>> All >>> of GM's Boston-area signals are full Class Bs, though three are >>> licensed to suburbs--Waltham, Brookline, Framingham--plus two to >>> Boston itself. And four of the five transmit from the Pru. They >>> would >>> have relocated WKLB to the Pru if it had been technically feasible >>> but >>> an IF problem with WUMB prevents such a move. My guess is that >>> WRKO >>> plus WEEI together are not worth as much as WTKK by itself. That >>> would >>> surely be GM's position if Entercom were to approach it about a >>> swap. >>> IMO, Entercom would have to sweeten the deal with a big FM signal >>> in >>> another market to get GM to even listen to its pitch--and even if >>> that >>> were part of a proposed deal, GM would still wind up laughing the >>> Entercom emissary out the door. >>> >>> ----- >>> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >>> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" >>> >>> To: "Bob Nelson" >>> Cc: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" >>> >>> > >>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:35 AM >>> Subject: Re: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July >>> >>> >>> FM options are pretty limited for Entercom >>>> >>>> I wonder if any thought has been given to going to Greater Media >>>> and >>>> perhaps >>>> working out some kind of a swap with 96.9 being the focal point. >>>> (Maybe >>>> offer them both 680 and 850 plus cash) - Then GM could merge >>>> their >>>> talk >>>> format with whatever they want from WRKO and then use 850 for >>>> pure >>>> ESPN >>>> radio) >>>> >>>> In any event WEEI has to be wondering what has happened to The >>>> Big >>>> Show...Felger and Mazz are just killing them now. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Bob Nelson >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The rumor of Entercom buying WFNX awhile back was notable in >>>> that >>>>> the >>>>> only media source that was reporting it was a weekly publication >>>>> (and >>>>> online site) called the Weekly Dig. Nobody else had it, and both >>>>> Entercom and the Phoenix denied it. Funny...a rival to the >>>>> Boston >>>>> Phoenix spreading a rumor of the Phoenix selling off their radio >>>>> outlet...just to tweak them I guess. >>>>> >>>>> An FM presence for the sports talk and Red Sox/Celtics games may >>>>> happen eventually, as it has in other markets, but as noted >>>>> before >>>>> Entercom is apparently doing well with >>>>> WAAF, WKAF, and WMKK and might not change them. WEEI is now on >>>>> the >>>>> HD2 >>>>> signals of WAAF and WKAF, not that too many people yet have HD >>>>> radios >>>>> or plan to get them. >>>>> >>>>> For Red Sox games, WBOQ in Gloucester is an affiliate (not as >>>>> powerful >>>>> as some would like, especially in some workplaces). If WMKK were >>>>> to >>>>> //WEEI, or if somehow the Phoenix could indeed be convinced to >>>>> sell >>>>> 101.7 to Entercom, either North Shore-based station (well, WMKK >>>>> is >>>>> licensed to Lawrence but the stick is in Peabody) would pose a >>>>> threat >>>>> to WBOQ--assuming Entercom would allow the Sox to continue on >>>>> 104.9. >>>>> >>>>> WMKK's signal is pretty good, at least around here, but they >>>>> don't >>>>> want to unplug the low cost, high profit "Mike". >>>>> By the way speaking of WBOQ, as Simon Geller continues to roll >>>>> over >>>>> in >>>>> his grave, >>>>> I do get to hear parts of some Sox games at work (in spots where >>>>> it >>>>> does come in) >>>>> and the board op at "North Shore 104.9" has to often cut off >>>>> promos >>>>> and IDs >>>>> WEEI >>>>> runs. The voice of Jim Cutler starts to tell people about The >>>>> Big >>>>> Show >>>>> or Dale and >>>>> Holley, etc., and suddenly the board op has to inject some kind >>>>> of >>>>> WBOQ >>>>> promo >>>>> to squash it. I don't know if other Sox affiliates have the same >>>>> problem--I'd think >>>>> the Red Sox network must have a stream they can tap into where >>>>> that >>>>> doesn't happen >>>>> but 104.9 for some reason winds up getting a stream where the >>>>> WEEI >>>>> promos >>>>> pop in, and they have to quickly move to cut off the promos... >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Kevin Vahey >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.boston.com/sports/**touching_all_the_bases/2011/** >>>>> 08/media_linkage_and_more_**arbitro.html >>>>> > >>>>> > Only the Red Sox games in the evening are keeping them close. >>>>> > >>>>> > I am sure the Entrercom buying WFNX rumors will start again >>>>> > but I >>>>> > don't >>>>> > think 101.7 is strong enough unless they just simulcast 850. >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> > From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Aug 13 19:46:16 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:46:16 -0400 Subject: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July In-Reply-To: <25227755.61793.1313274842899.JavaMail.root@sz0146a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <25227755.61793.1313274842899.JavaMail.root@sz0146a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I do think CBS saw WEEI could be challenged as 890 did make a small dent which 1510 never did. Having play by play of 2 teams helped as well. Jason has to be in trouble as demoting Dale Arnold has backfired. On Aug 13, 2011 6:34 PM, wrote: > If 'EEI is wondering what happened to the Big Show's ratings then they should all lose their jobs. What happened is that a new sport station set up shop and WEEI finally encountered something they hadn't before. A full-time, viable competitor. Programmed by a PD who looked at 'EEI's considerable weaknesses, didn't make the same mistakes and, unlike WEEI took nothing, least of all the audience, for granted. > All the talk about signal and the Bruins really miss the point. Both those factors are components, but the bottom line is that SportsHub is just a far superior experience (and some of it really is programming 101), a much, much better station and sports fans, rabid and otherwise (SportsHub has also drawn peripheral listeners), are thankful they no longer have to put up with the sorry product WEEI had become. The bottom line is that 'EEI's audience defection is likely permanent and now WEEI has to consider mimicking the new kid on the block and enact major alterations to try and get the attention of their former listeners. Which means blowing up the sorry lineup and starting all over again. > My money's on that fact that the horse is already out of 'EEI's barn and that their management and staff can only reflect what might have been if only they hadn't become so smug and self indulgent. Otherwise, they might have been able to put up at least some semblance of a fight for the audience. > Felger and Mazz are killing the big show because they are far better at what they are doing. And what does that say for WEEI that a couple of hosts whose strength was initially print journalism are beating broadcast veterans like Ordway and Dennis (both of whom have lost their fastball, but their bread and butter was the broadcast medium). > It's the product, not the signal. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kevin Vahey > To: Bob Nelson > Cc: (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest < boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org> > Sent: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:35:54 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July > > FM options are pretty limited for Entercom > > I wonder if any thought has been given to going to Greater Media and perhaps > working out some kind of a swap with 96.9 being the focal point. (Maybe > offer them both 680 and 850 plus cash) - Then GM could merge their talk > format with whatever they want from WRKO and then use 850 for pure ESPN > radio) > > In any event WEEI has to be wondering what has happened to The Big > Show...Felger and Mazz are just killing them now. > > > > > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > >> The rumor of Entercom buying WFNX awhile back was notable in that the >> only media source that was reporting it was a weekly publication (and >> online site) called the Weekly Dig. Nobody else had it, and both >> Entercom and the Phoenix denied it. Funny...a rival to the Boston >> Phoenix spreading a rumor of the Phoenix selling off their radio >> outlet...just to tweak them I guess. >> >> An FM presence for the sports talk and Red Sox/Celtics games may >> happen eventually, as it has in other markets, but as noted before >> Entercom is apparently doing well with >> WAAF, WKAF, and WMKK and might not change them. WEEI is now on the HD2 >> signals of WAAF and WKAF, not that too many people yet have HD radios >> or plan to get them. >> >> For Red Sox games, WBOQ in Gloucester is an affiliate (not as powerful >> as some would like, especially in some workplaces). If WMKK were to >> //WEEI, or if somehow the Phoenix could indeed be convinced to sell >> 101.7 to Entercom, either North Shore-based station (well, WMKK is >> licensed to Lawrence but the stick is in Peabody) would pose a threat >> to WBOQ--assuming Entercom would allow the Sox to continue on 104.9. >> >> WMKK's signal is pretty good, at least around here, but they don't >> want to unplug the low cost, high profit "Mike". >> By the way speaking of WBOQ, as Simon Geller continues to roll over in >> his grave, >> I do get to hear parts of some Sox games at work (in spots where it >> does come in) >> and the board op at "North Shore 104.9" has to often cut off promos and IDs >> WEEI >> runs. The voice of Jim Cutler starts to tell people about The Big Show >> or Dale and >> Holley, etc., and suddenly the board op has to inject some kind of WBOQ >> promo >> to squash it. I don't know if other Sox affiliates have the same >> problem--I'd think >> the Red Sox network must have a stream they can tap into where that >> doesn't happen >> but 104.9 for some reason winds up getting a stream where the WEEI promos >> pop in, and they have to quickly move to cut off the promos... >> >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> > >> http://www.boston.com/sports/touching_all_the_bases/2011/08/media_linkage_and_more_arbitro.html >> > >> > Only the Red Sox games in the evening are keeping them close. >> > >> > I am sure the Entrercom buying WFNX rumors will start again but I don't >> > think 101.7 is strong enough unless they just simulcast 850. >> > >> From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Sun Aug 14 00:32:22 2011 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1313296342.92598.YahooMailClassic@web110512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Sat, 8/13/11, Kevin Vahey wrote: > I do think CBS saw WEEI could be > challenged as 890 did make a small dent > which 1510 never did. Having play by play of 2 teams helped > as well. 890 also had some promotion behind it through the ESPN brand. What promotion did 1510 have besides some billboards? And they really made a half-assed effort at going all local; I think they had Mike Adams' local show on for about six months, if even that, before pulling the plug. The other thing is that WEEI has never been great; good but not great. Arrogance and taking the audience for granted prevented it. Letting a guy like Ordway, a really good interviewer, be surrounded by the guys he was (namely Smerlas and Sheppard) for so long was a mistake. They were the only real thing in town in PM drive for 15 years, until the Hub came along. And some of it is just the Hub taking advantage of younger hosts to pull in less-entrenched listeners. From theseacoast@maine.rr.com Sun Aug 14 15:25:07 2011 From: theseacoast@maine.rr.com (The Seacoast) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:25:07 -0400 Subject: WXEX - FM Message-ID: <986A560BBAED40FD86E9E60ED8BDB29A@vpr1> First time hearing 1540 WXEX on the 92.1 FM side today in Wells, so I assume the WFNX sale of the station has been finalized. I think the 9 AM id went something like "WXEX - Exeter/WXEX-FM Sanford, Portsmouth" or something like that. From lglavin@mail.com Fri Aug 12 13:55:30 2011 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:55:30 +0000 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership Message-ID: <20110812175530.76990@gmx.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. >Sent: 08/11/11 07:07 PM >To: Doug Drown >Subject: Re: Women in broadcasting ownership >It's not in New England, but KZZJ 1450 Rugby, ND is owned entirely by a >woman, Lila Harstad. As long as women from outside of New England are on the table, one prominent name would be Dorothy Bullitt, owner of the KING stable of broadcast outlets in the Pacific Northwest. According to this Wikipedia entry, she'd be #1 with a Bullitt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Bullitt She's the reason why the 98.1 frequency is not duplicating some format already in the market. From ljs0610@comcast.net Sat Aug 13 18:34:02 2011 From: ljs0610@comcast.net (ljs0610@comcast.net) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 22:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <25227755.61793.1313274842899.JavaMail.root@sz0146a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> If 'EEI is wondering what happened to the Big Show's ratings then they should all lose their jobs. What happened is that a new sport station set up shop and WEEI finally encountered something they hadn't before. A full-time, viable competitor. Programmed by a PD who looked at 'EEI's considerable weaknesses, didn't make the same mistakes and, unlike WEEI took nothing, least of all the audience, for granted. All the talk about signal and the Bruins really miss the point. Both those factors are components, but the bottom line is that SportsHub is just a far superior experience (and some of it really is programming 101), a much, much better station and sports fans, rabid and otherwise (SportsHub has also drawn peripheral listeners), are thankful they no longer have to put up with the sorry product WEEI had become. The bottom line is that 'EEI's audience defection is likely permanent and now WEEI has to consider mimicking the new kid on the block and enact major alterations to try and get the attention of their former listeners. Which means blowing up the sorry lineup and starting all over again. My money's on that fact that the horse is already out of 'EEI's barn and that their management and staff can only reflect what might have been if only they hadn't become so smug and self indulgent. Otherwise, they might have been able to put up at least some semblance of a fight for the audience. Felger and Mazz are killing the big show because they are far better at what they are doing. And what does that say for WEEI that a couple of hosts whose strength was initially print journalism are beating broadcast veterans like Ordway and Dennis (both of whom have lost their fastball, but their bread and butter was the broadcast medium). It's the product, not the signal. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Vahey To: Bob Nelson Cc: (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest Sent: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:35:54 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July FM options are pretty limited for Entercom I wonder if any thought has been given to going to Greater Media and perhaps working out some kind of a swap with 96.9 being the focal point. (Maybe offer them both 680 and 850 plus cash) - Then GM could merge their talk format with whatever they want from WRKO and then use 850 for pure ESPN radio) In any event WEEI has to be wondering what has happened to The Big Show...Felger and Mazz are just killing them now. On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > The rumor of Entercom buying WFNX awhile back was notable in that the > only media source that was reporting it was a weekly publication (and > online site) called the Weekly Dig. Nobody else had it, and both > Entercom and the Phoenix denied it. Funny...a rival to the Boston > Phoenix spreading a rumor of the Phoenix selling off their radio > outlet...just to tweak them I guess. > > An FM presence for the sports talk and Red Sox/Celtics games may > happen eventually, as it has in other markets, but as noted before > Entercom is apparently doing well with > WAAF, WKAF, and WMKK and might not change them. WEEI is now on the HD2 > signals of WAAF and WKAF, not that too many people yet have HD radios > or plan to get them. > > For Red Sox games, WBOQ in Gloucester is an affiliate (not as powerful > as some would like, especially in some workplaces). If WMKK were to > //WEEI, or if somehow the Phoenix could indeed be convinced to sell > 101.7 to Entercom, either North Shore-based station (well, WMKK is > licensed to Lawrence but the stick is in Peabody) would pose a threat > to WBOQ--assuming Entercom would allow the Sox to continue on 104.9. > > WMKK's signal is pretty good, at least around here, but they don't > want to unplug the low cost, high profit "Mike". > By the way speaking of WBOQ, as Simon Geller continues to roll over in > his grave, > I do get to hear parts of some Sox games at work (in spots where it > does come in) > and the board op at "North Shore 104.9" has to often cut off promos and IDs > WEEI > runs. The voice of Jim Cutler starts to tell people about The Big Show > or Dale and > Holley, etc., and suddenly the board op has to inject some kind of WBOQ > promo > to squash it. I don't know if other Sox affiliates have the same > problem--I'd think > the Red Sox network must have a stream they can tap into where that > doesn't happen > but 104.9 for some reason winds up getting a stream where the WEEI promos > pop in, and they have to quickly move to cut off the promos... > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > > http://www.boston.com/sports/touching_all_the_bases/2011/08/media_linkage_and_more_arbitro.html > > > > Only the Red Sox games in the evening are keeping them close. > > > > I am sure the Entrercom buying WFNX rumors will start again but I don't > > think 101.7 is strong enough unless they just simulcast 850. > > > From linc45r-n@lincster.com Sun Aug 14 10:25:45 2011 From: linc45r-n@lincster.com (Linc Reed-Nickerson) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:25:45 -0700 Subject: Women in broadcasting ownership In-Reply-To: <20110811175220.c4ueb01xk4sos4wo@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20110811175220.c4ueb01xk4sos4wo@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <4E47DAE9.90601@lincster.com> On 8/11/2011 2:52 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > Here's an interesting question for everyone on the Board: Who can come up with names of women who have owned broadcasting stations? This occurred to me this morning. I can think of two off the top of my head: Katharine Graham, obviously, of Post-Newsweek; and Helen Sloane Dudman and daughter Martha, who for years owned WDEA and WWMJ in Ellsworth, Maine. Beyond them, I'm scratching my head trying to think of others. -Doug > > > > In Oregon Joan Reed-Nickerson owns KBNH & KORC in Burns, Cheryl Harle owns KCUP in Toledo and KPPT in Depoe Bay. From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Aug 14 23:44:54 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 23:44:54 -0400 Subject: Channel 44 Message-ID: <4E489636.7060104@attorneyross.com> My friend who is not very tech savvy and watches off-air TV with a converter box (that I set up for her) told me that channel 44 had disappeared from her channel menu. I checked today and found that channel 44-1 had become 44-5, and the WGBX programming is there. Channels 44-2, 44-3, and 44-4 (GBH Kids, World, and Create) appear to be unchanged. She wasn't sophisticated enough to notice that. So why did WGBH change 44-1 to 44-5? And why didn't they bother to announce something so that my friend (and others like her) can find the station? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Aug 14 23:47:25 2011 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 23:47:25 -0400 Subject: Channel 44 In-Reply-To: <4E489636.7060104@attorneyross.com> References: <4E489636.7060104@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <20040.38605.677454.772751@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > So why did WGBH change 44-1 to 44-5? And why didn't they bother to > announce something so that my friend (and others like her) can find the > station? Channel 44 is now in HD. (Took them long enough.) Is her converter not HD-capable? -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Aug 14 23:58:48 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 23:58:48 -0400 Subject: Channel 44 In-Reply-To: <20040.38605.677454.772751@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <4E489636.7060104@attorneyross.com> <20040.38605.677454.772751@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4E489978.8040006@attorneyross.com> On 8/14/2011 11:47 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> So why did WGBH change 44-1 to 44-5? And why didn't they bother to >> announce something so that my friend (and others like her) can find the >> station? > Channel 44 is now in HD. (Took them long enough.) Is her converter > not HD-capable? That's not the problem, it's that 44-1 disappeared, and she didn't know that the programming reappeared as 44-5. For non-tech-savvy people, that can be confusing. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Aug 15 01:20:48 2011 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 01:20:48 -0400 Subject: Channel 44 In-Reply-To: <4E489978.8040006@attorneyross.com> References: <4E489636.7060104@attorneyross.com> <20040.38605.677454.772751@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4E489978.8040006@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <20040.44208.753062.77404@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > On 8/14/2011 11:47 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> Channel 44 is now in HD. (Took them long enough.) Is her converter >> not HD-capable? > That's not the problem, it's that 44-1 disappeared, and she didn't know > that the programming reappeared as 44-5. For non-tech-savvy people, > that can be confusing. Did it actually disappear, or is her converter simply not capable of receiving it? Can anyone else confirm the PSIP configuration on RF channel 43? -GAWollman From mrschuyler@aol.com Mon Aug 15 08:45:05 2011 From: mrschuyler@aol.com (J.E.Schuyler) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 08:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Channel 44 Message-ID: <8CE29604AF7CAC9-1588-1021@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> WGBX started testing 44.5 in HD (in addition to the four SD channels) with color bars on or about May 4. Programming debuted on or about June 19, with 44.5 running HD simulcasts of 44.1. By June 27, the HD programming had moved to 44.1 and 44.5 disappeared. As of today, the line-up is the same: HD on 44.1, SD subchannels 44.2-3-4. The temporary, experimental 44.5 is no longer on the air. (I have OTA reception through a converter box into an old analog set.) From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Aug 15 09:11:26 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:11:26 -0400 Subject: Channel 44 References: <4E489636.7060104@attorneyross.com><20040.38605.677454.772751@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><4E489978.8040006@attorneyross.com> <20040.44208.753062.77404@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: On my 27" DTV receiver, 44-1 was, for a few weeks, duplicated on 44-5. (I point out the screen size because the receiver does not do 1080P; it does, however, do--or claim to do--1080I). During the brief period when programs appeared on 44-5, 44-5 was apparently in HD (alleged, on the receiver's "info" screen to be 1080 lines), whereas 44-1 appeared to be in standard definition (the receiver appears to call that 480 lines). In order to get the receiver to display 44-5, I first had to have it "rescan" the channels. A week or two ago, 44-5 went dark and remains so. Although I can select 44-5, when I do, the screen goes black. I don't recall whether the "program not available" message appears. Simultaneously with 44-5 going dark, 44-1 now displays on the info screen as being 1080 lines. It does indeed appear to be in the 9x16 aspect ratio. So I believe that 44-1 has now converted to HD and 44-5 has disappared (but it has left a trace of itself--dead channels seem to leave traces of themselves; despite many "rescans," what I believe to be the VHF versions of 7-1 and 7-2 continue to appear even though the UHF versions are enabled and are the only 7s that provide programming; the VHF 7s produce only black screens). I don't understand how 44 could have transmitted four SD streams plus one HD stream in one 6-MHz channel. My understanding was that one channel could support four SD streams or one HD stream and one SD stream. As far as I can tell, Channel 2 transmits one HD stream and one SD stream although 2 also displays two additional subchannels numbered (IIRC) 104 and 105. These two have been black since I first got the DTV receiver two years ago. I find this whole business very confusing and I wish somebody would explain it to me. Clearly it was not intended to be understood by the general public. Even having two degrees in electrical engineering does not provide me with the background to figure out what is going on. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "A Joseph Ross" Cc: "Boston Radio" Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:20 AM Subject: Re: Channel 44 > < said: > >> On 8/14/2011 11:47 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: >>> Channel 44 is now in HD. (Took them long enough.) Is her >>> converter >>> not HD-capable? > >> That's not the problem, it's that 44-1 disappeared, and she didn't >> know >> that the programming reappeared as 44-5. For non-tech-savvy >> people, >> that can be confusing. > > Did it actually disappear, or is her converter simply not capable of > receiving it? Can anyone else confirm the PSIP configuration on RF > channel 43? > > -GAWollman From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Aug 15 10:30:10 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 10:30:10 -0400 Subject: Montreal talk show legend dies Message-ID: Ted Tevan who hosted a late night sports show in Montreal for decades passed away on Friday. http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Tevan+dies/5253906/story.html His style was part Jerry Wiliams and part Larry Glick but he was never dull. From mward@iname.com Mon Aug 15 11:06:30 2011 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:06:30 -0400 Subject: Channel 44 In-Reply-To: References: <4E489636.7060104@attorneyross.com> <20040.38605.677454.772751@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4E489978.8040006@attorneyross.com> <20040.44208.753062.77404@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > So I believe that 44-1 has now converted to HD and > 44-5 has disappared (but it has left a trace of itself--dead channels > seem to leave traces of themselves; despite many "rescans," what I > believe to be the VHF versions of 7-1 and 7-2 continue to appear even > though the UHF versions are enabled and are the only 7s that provide > programming; the VHF 7s produce only black screens). I ran into the same thing here this weekend, when our CBS affiliate launched a UHF fill-in transmitter. Disconnect your antenna from the tuner ENTIRELY. Rescan. When it's done, you'll have no channels. Plug in the antenna again, rescan, and all should be right. Of course, if you had a straggler in there that you want to keep, even though it doesn't decode 100%, the rescanning wipes it out. But it will pick up every channel you CURRENTLY receive. Mike From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Aug 15 13:32:33 2011 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:32:33 -0400 Subject: Channel 44 In-Reply-To: References: <4E489636.7060104@attorneyross.com> <20040.38605.677454.772751@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4E489978.8040006@attorneyross.com> <20040.44208.753062.77404@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <20041.22577.22592.970086@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I don't understand how 44 could have transmitted four SD > streams plus one HD stream in one 6-MHz channel. My understanding was > that one channel could support four SD streams or one HD stream and > one SD stream. Compression technology has improved since DTV launched a decade ago. There are now stations running two 720p streams on one channel. -GAWollman From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Aug 15 13:15:00 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:15:00 -0400 Subject: Montreal talk show legend dies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E495414.3020503@donnahalper.com> Just a quick reminder-- it's raining in Boston, but it will be nice & dry at the Peabody Public Library tonight at 7pm. I'm bringing new memorabilia and talking about both Boston radio and North Shore radio. Be there, aloha. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Aug 15 13:20:14 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:20:14 -0400 Subject: OOPS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E49554E.60103@donnahalper.com> Meant to change the heading on that most recent posting. My apologies and I was not trying to be rude to the memory of the late gentleman from Montreal... From map@mapinternet.com Mon Aug 15 13:39:17 2011 From: map@mapinternet.com (Mark Casey) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:39:17 -0400 Subject: How many Digital Subchannels In-Reply-To: References: <4E489636.7060104@attorneyross.com><20040.38605.677454.772751@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><4E489978.8040006@attorneyross.com><20040.44208.753062.77404@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: Believe Wikipedia, or not, but there's a neat chart in the "digital subchannel" listing that shows sub-channel possibilities. The fly in the ointment is the fact that some broadcasters may be using different resolutions than in the chart, and /or different than are listed in the A53 or A72 chart at "ATSC standards". A good example is channel 3, Hartford's (rf ch.33) channel 3-4. It's advertised as "Channel 3 Fairfield County", but is a much lower than 480 resolution. It's horrible on a regular digital or converted TV. Maybe they are experimenting with it for Mobile TV use. I talked with a knowledgeable CE of another local station, a competitor, and he was wondering what they were doing with it. Is any station in the Boston market doing the low-resolution thing? The most I've seen is 1 HD plus 3 SD, but I can imagine if the resolutions for both are adjusted to, the absolute minimum for HD and, the "SD" resolution is cut down, the 1HD+4SD scenario might be possible. As far as former channel displays go, my older boxes & tv's seem to retain all the channels after rescan (but I haven't tried the unplug-recan w/no antenna procedure), while many of the newer boxes & tv's wipe out all the old info after every rescan. Mark Casey Hampden, MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "Garrett Wollman" ; "A Joseph Ross" Cc: "Boston Radio" Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Channel 44 On my 27" DTV receiver, 44-1 was, for a few weeks, duplicated on 44-5. (I point out the screen size because the receiver does not do 1080P; it does, however, do--or claim to do--1080I). During the brief period when programs appeared on 44-5, 44-5 was apparently in HD (alleged, on the receiver's "info" screen to be 1080 lines), whereas 44-1 appeared to be in standard definition (the receiver appears to call that 480 lines). In order to get the receiver to display 44-5, I first had to have it "rescan" the channels. A week or two ago, 44-5 went dark and remains so. Although I can select 44-5, when I do, the screen goes black. I don't recall whether the "program not available" message appears. Simultaneously with 44-5 going dark, 44-1 now displays on the info screen as being 1080 lines. It does indeed appear to be in the 9x16 aspect ratio. So I believe that 44-1 has now converted to HD and 44-5 has disappared (but it has left a trace of itself--dead channels seem to leave traces of themselves; despite many "rescans," what I believe to be the VHF versions of 7-1 and 7-2 continue to appear even though the UHF versions are enabled and are the only 7s that provide programming; the VHF 7s produce only black screens). I don't understand how 44 could have transmitted four SD streams plus one HD stream in one 6-MHz channel. My understanding was that one channel could support four SD streams or one HD stream and one SD stream. As far as I can tell, Channel 2 transmits one HD stream and one SD stream although 2 also displays two additional subchannels numbered (IIRC) 104 and 105. These two have been black since I first got the DTV receiver two years ago. I find this whole business very confusing and I wish somebody would explain it to me. Clearly it was not intended to be understood by the general public. Even having two degrees in electrical engineering does not provide me with the background to figure out what is going on. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 15 15:32:59 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 15:32:59 -0400 Subject: Channel 44 In-Reply-To: <8CE29604AF7CAC9-1588-1021@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE29604AF7CAC9-1588-1021@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4E49746B.1070604@attorneyross.com> On 8/15/2011 8:45 AM, J.E.Schuyler wrote: > WGBX started testing 44.5 in HD (in addition to the four SD channels) with color bars on or about May 4. > Programming debuted on or about June 19, with 44.5 running HD simulcasts of 44.1. > By June 27, the HD programming had moved to 44.1 and 44.5 disappeared. > As of today, the line-up is the same: HD on 44.1, SD subchannels 44.2-3-4. > > The temporary, experimental 44.5 is no longer on the air. As of yesterday on my friend's TV/converter box, 44-5 was on the air and 44-1 was not. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From jjlehmann@comcast.net Mon Aug 15 16:42:50 2011 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:42:50 -0400 Subject: Channel 44 In-Reply-To: <4E49746B.1070604@attorneyross.com> References: <8CE29604AF7CAC9-1588-1021@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> <4E49746B.1070604@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <003001cc5b8b$e6b6e770$b424b650$@net> > As of yesterday on my friend's TV/converter box, 44-5 was on the air > and 44-1 was not. Your friend needs to do a rescan. I just checked with several receivers, there is no 44.5 anymore. The HD feed is now on 44.1. There is no SD feed of WGBX as there is with WGBH. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Aug 15 20:22:30 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:22:30 -0400 Subject: Fw: Channel 44 Message-ID: <17EAF9FF922B4702B5C0EE7ED20901EB@SatU205S5044> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "A. Joseph Ross" Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:20 PM Subject: Re: Channel 44 >I can confirm that Schuyler is correct. Perhaps your friend is >somehow > receiving 44.5 when she selects 44.1. My receiver does not reroute > me > to 44.1 when I select 44.5. However, if TV stations can transmit a > redirect command and redirection is an optional feature of some > receivers but not others, I can imagine receivers that implement > redirection automatically tuning to 44.1 when commanded by the user > to > tune to 44.5. If this is indeed what is going on, it's yet another > demonstration of the fact that the system architects don't give a > damn > if viewers are completely mystified. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 3:32 PM > Subject: Re: Channel 44 > > >> On 8/15/2011 8:45 AM, J.E.Schuyler wrote: >> >>> WGBX started testing 44.5 in HD (in addition to the four SD >>> channels) with color bars on or about May 4. >>> Programming debuted on or about June 19, with 44.5 running HD >>> simulcasts of 44.1. >>> By June 27, the HD programming had moved to 44.1 and 44.5 >>> disappeared. >>> As of today, the line-up is the same: HD on 44.1, SD subchannels >>> 44.2-3-4. >>> >>> The temporary, experimental 44.5 is no longer on the air. >> >> As of yesterday on my friend's TV/converter box, 44-5 was on the >> air and 44-1 was not. >> >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 >> Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com >> > From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Aug 15 22:41:11 2011 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:41:11 -0400 Subject: Fw: Channel 44 In-Reply-To: <17EAF9FF922B4702B5C0EE7ED20901EB@SatU205S5044> References: <17EAF9FF922B4702B5C0EE7ED20901EB@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: I punched in 44.5 on my TV this evening (don't usually use the off-air tuner). It immediately switched me to 44.1, added 44.1 back to my channel list, and deleted 44.5. I guess I have the smart tuner. I forgot how much nicer the picture looks off-air compared to the cable HD signals. -Bob I can confirm that Schuyler is correct. Perhaps your friend is >> somehow >> receiving 44.5 when she selects 44.1. My receiver does not reroute >> me to 44.1 when I select 44.5. However, if TV stations can transmit a >> redirect command and redirection is an optional feature of some >> receivers but not others, I can imagine receivers that implement >> redirection automatically tuning to 44.1 when commanded by the user >> to tune to 44.5. If this is indeed what is going on, it's yet another >> demonstration of the fact that the system architects don't give a >> damn if viewers are completely mystified. >> >> From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 15 23:46:18 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:46:18 -0400 Subject: Channel 44 In-Reply-To: <20040.44208.753062.77404@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <4E489636.7060104@attorneyross.com> <20040.38605.677454.772751@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4E489978.8040006@attorneyross.com> <20040.44208.753062.77404@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4E49E80A.5090207@attorneyross.com> On 8/15/2011 1:20 AM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Did it actually disappear, or is her converter simply not capable of > receiving it? Can anyone else confirm the PSIP configuration on RF > channel 43? All I know is, her channel lineup used to have 44-1 and it doesn't any more. But it has 44-5, with the WGBX programs. But that was yesterday. I have the identical converters on a couple of my TVs (though I don't use them often because I have cable), and I just checked, and my channel lineup now has 44-1 and no 44-5. So perhaps the changeover took place today. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Aug 16 03:23:55 2011 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:23:55 +0000 Subject: WXKS-AM hires Severin for afternoons Message-ID: <20110816072355.218770@gmx.com> Tweets from Talk 1200 and Jay Severin both say that Severin will start doing a show for WXKS-AM weekdays from 3-6 pm starting August 18. Details are in the Herald: http://bostonherald.com/track/inside_track/view/2011_0816jay_talks_his_way_into_new_gig/srvc=home&position=6 This marks the second local host on Talk 1200, with Jeff Katz being the first. I presume Hannity will be pushed back to 6 pm. Looks like the talk experiment on 1200 shows no sign of ending. From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Aug 16 09:16:13 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:16:13 -0400 Subject: WXKS-AM hires Severin for afternoons References: <20110816072355.218770@gmx.com> Message-ID: <97276132572641A2887317FDDDB37818@SatU205S5044> Will he be simulcast on WGIR, WGIN, WTAG, WHJY? In the winter, that would still leave a substantial hole in the MetroWest coverage after 4:15PM. I doubt that WTAG's 94.9 translator in "Tatnuck" reaches Natick and 1200 in Natick after sunset is problematic. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:23 AM Subject: WXKS-AM hires Severin for afternoons > Tweets from Talk 1200 and Jay Severin both say that Severin will > start doing a show for WXKS-AM > weekdays from 3-6 pm starting August 18. Details are in the Herald: > > http://bostonherald.com/track/inside_track/view/2011_0816jay_talks_his_way_into_new_gig/srvc=home&position=6 > > This marks the second local host on Talk 1200, with Jeff Katz being > the first. I presume Hannity will be pushed back to 6 pm. Looks like > the talk experiment on 1200 shows no sign of ending. From bob.bosra@demattia.net Tue Aug 16 10:06:42 2011 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:06:42 -0400 Subject: WXKS-AM hires Severin for afternoons In-Reply-To: <97276132572641A2887317FDDDB37818@SatU205S5044> References: <20110816072355.218770@gmx.com> <97276132572641A2887317FDDDB37818@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Will he be simulcast on WGIR, WGIN, WTAG, WHJY? In the winter, that > would still leave a substantial hole in the MetroWest coverage after > 4:15PM. I doubt that WTAG's 94.9 translator in "Tatnuck" reaches > Natick and 1200 in Natick after sunset is problematic. > > I've never heard 1200 rebroadcast on any other station. The TAG translator makes it to Westborough, then it does battle with HOM (neither one is a winner). 1200 is fine in Metrowest before sunset, after sunset is a different story, though I haven't checked their signal since they changed their pattern. -Bob From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Aug 16 11:47:42 2011 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:47:42 +0000 Subject: WXKS-AM hires Severin for afternoons Message-ID: <20110816154742.218750@gmx.com> I don't know if they plan to do that; WGIR, WGIN, and WTAG would probably all continue with Hannity, as would Providence's WHJJ (WHJY is the FM rocker in that city). Clear Channel doesn't "syndicate" morning man Jeff Katz and I don't know if they'd syndicate Severin, though who knows. CC tends to have stations with local morning hosts then syndie, though when I was in New Orleans their "Rush Radio 94.5" carried Hannity live 2-5 pm (CT, remember) then they went to former WRKO host John "Ozone" Osterlind. WXKS (AM) hasn't updated their schedule on the site yet so I don't know what will go on after Jay though supposedly they will time-shift Hannity. AM 1200's signal after dark of course is sketchy or non-existent in certain areas. I think they push east toward Boston. I do get them, so-so to half decent, in Beverly after dark. By the way as may have been mentioned, WAAF 107.3's HD-3 is now WRKO. No doubt the 680's problem to the west after dark may be one reason why. This is again good news to the literally dozens of people who own an HD radio :) (And from what I can gather, Entercom isn't promoting this news on air, unlike WXKS AM which says they can be heard on the HD2 of WXKS-FM ...again, great news for the few who do have an HD radio, and this might help solve a bit of their own problem.) Incidentally here is an idea of the HD subsignals I can get here in Beverly, on the portable 107.9 HD2 -WXKS Talk 1200 (107.3--I can barely get the main signal, and NO HD2 or HD3 but I'm on the North Shore...) 106.7 HD 2 Smooth Jazz 105.7 HD 2 Nothing But The 70s (104.1--no HD sub signals coming in) (103.3--have gotten soft hits on HD2 but not just now when I tried) 102.5--HD 2 classic country 100.7-- HD 2 blues, HD3 Freeform BCN--but dies after a second 98.5--HD 2 rock, HD 3 WBZ Newsradio 1030 97.7--HD 2--WEEI (but doesn't always come in) 96.9-- HD 2 Irish 94.5--HD 2 hip hop 93.7--HD 2 Funkytown 92.9--HD 2 Radio You 89.7--HD 2 WCRB aka WGBH All Classical, HD3 WCAI 88.9--HD 2 came in for a second, then lost it From marklaurence@mac.com Tue Aug 16 10:53:19 2011 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:53:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: WXKS-AM hires Severin for afternoons In-Reply-To: <97276132572641A2887317FDDDB37818@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <71467578-1cdb-eaae-e7dc-88813b4ac54d@me.com> Maybe they'll wait to see if Jay can get more than the 200 listeners (in the demo) that Hannity averages in that time slot. I don't know about the other stations, but former Worcester mayor Jordan Levy has a long-time lock on that time slot at WTAG.? On Aug 16, 2011, at 09:16 AM, "Dan.Strassberg" wrote: > Will he be simulcast on WGIR, WGIN, WTAG, WHJY? In the winter, that > would still leave a substantial hole in the MetroWest coverage after > 4:15PM. I doubt that WTAG's 94.9 translator in "Tatnuck" reaches > Natick and 1200 in Natick after sunset is problematic. From aerie.ma@comcast.net Tue Aug 16 12:00:04 2011 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:00:04 -0400 Subject: WXKS-AM hires Severin for afternoons In-Reply-To: <20110816154742.218750@gmx.com> References: <20110816154742.218750@gmx.com> Message-ID: <00c001cc5c2d$94593620$bd0ba260$@ma@comcast.net> The WAAF/WKAF HD-3 streams even identify themselves separately from WRKO, usually on top of a commercial on WRKO, just before the WRKO ID itself. Dana Hersey intones "WAAF HD3 Westborough/Boston, WKAF HD3 Brockton/Boston" but those are not heard on WRKO. By the way as may have been mentioned, WAAF 107.3's HD-3 is now WRKO. No doubt the 680's problem to the west after dark may be one reason why. This is again good news to the literally dozens of people who own an HD radio :) (And from what I can gather, Entercom isn't promoting this news on air, unlike WXKS AM which says they can be heard on the HD2 of WXKS-FM ...again, great news for the few who do have an HD radio, and this might help solve a bit of their own problem.) Incidentally here is an idea of the HD subsignals I can get here in Beverly, on the portable 107.9 HD2 -WXKS Talk 1200 (107.3--I can barely get the main signal, and NO HD2 or HD3 but I'm on the North Shore...) 106.7 HD 2 Smooth Jazz 105.7 HD 2 Nothing But The 70s (104.1--no HD sub signals coming in) (103.3--have gotten soft hits on HD2 but not just now when I tried) 102.5--HD 2 classic country 100.7-- HD 2 blues, HD3 Freeform BCN--but dies after a second 98.5--HD 2 rock, HD 3 WBZ Newsradio 1030 97.7--HD 2--WEEI (but doesn't always come in) 96.9-- HD 2 Irish 94.5--HD 2 hip hop 93.7--HD 2 Funkytown 92.9--HD 2 Radio You 89.7--HD 2 WCRB aka WGBH All Classical, HD3 WCAI 88.9--HD 2 came in for a second, then lost it From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Aug 16 13:44:42 2011 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:44:42 +0000 Subject: WXKS-AM hires Severin for afternoons Message-ID: <20110816174442.218740@gmx.com> Oh that's right I forgot that WTAG has Levy on. btw, Talk 1200's site has been updated to show what will follow Jay: Sean Hannity 6-9 pm then Mark Levin 9-mid. Apparently no more Andy Dean (who just started a couple weeks back) From mward@iname.com Tue Aug 16 14:11:27 2011 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:11:27 -0400 Subject: WXKS-AM hires Severin for afternoons In-Reply-To: <20110816174442.218740@gmx.com> References: <20110816174442.218740@gmx.com> Message-ID: Andy Dean is Premiere's replacement for Minneapolis-based Jason Lewis in the 6-9 PM Eastern time slot. Jason went to another syndicator... On Aug 16, 2011 1:46 PM, "Bob Nelson" wrote: > Oh that's right I forgot that WTAG has Levy on. > btw, Talk 1200's site has been updated to show what will follow Jay: Sean Hannity 6-9 pm > then Mark Levin 9-mid. Apparently no more Andy Dean (who just started a couple weeks back) From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Tue Aug 16 13:59:08 2011 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:59:08 -0400 Subject: WXKS-AM hires Severin for afternoons In-Reply-To: <20110816174442.218740@gmx.com> References: <20110816174442.218740@gmx.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20110816135131.027abc18@plymouthcolony.net> At 01:44 PM 8/16/2011, Bob Nelson wrote: >Apparently no more Andy Dean (who just started a couple weeks back) Dean started a week ago yesterday (08-Aug), taking over the time slot occupied by the Jason Lewis Show (6-9 PM Eastern). As a side note, Premiere Radio Networks recycled the Lewis satellite triggers for use by America Now with Andy Dean, presumably to simplify matters both at network and at the affiliates (who don't have to reconfigure their satellite receivers for new triggers). Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Aug 16 14:58:13 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:58:13 -0400 Subject: WXKS-AM hires Severin for afternoons References: <20110816072355.218770@gmx.com><97276132572641A2887317FDDDB37818@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <950D6963A77845BEAE4AF31CF2F1D615@SatU205S5044> I suppose you are talking about the recent change in the day pattern (originally three towers, now four). That should have marginally increased the signal strength to the west. The effect varies substantially with the azimuth, however. The day signal in downtown Boston was reduced enough to notice but is still quite strong. There was not supposed to be a change in the night pattern but apparently, the radiation to the southwest (229 degrees) was cut in half--from the equivalent of maybe 100W ND to maybe 25W ND. The night signal to the west is considerably weaker than the day signal and the QRM from CFGO and WTLA is pretty bad. WXKS did catch a break, though. WAGE in VA north of DC (a significant contributor to WXKS's NIF) moved from 1200 to 1190 (and then, I think, completely abandoned the idea of night service). ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob DeMattia" To: "boston Radio Interest" Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:06 AM Subject: Re: WXKS-AM hires Severin for afternoons > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Dan.Strassberg > wrote: > >> Will he be simulcast on WGIR, WGIN, WTAG, WHJY? In the winter, that >> would still leave a substantial hole in the MetroWest coverage >> after >> 4:15PM. I doubt that WTAG's 94.9 translator in "Tatnuck" reaches >> Natick and 1200 in Natick after sunset is problematic. >> >> > I've never heard 1200 rebroadcast on any other station. The TAG > translator > makes > it to Westborough, then it does battle with HOM (neither one is a > winner). > > 1200 is fine in Metrowest before sunset, after sunset is a different > story, > though > I haven't checked their signal since they changed their pattern. > > > -Bob From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Aug 16 17:11:35 2011 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:11:35 +0000 Subject: That was fast: changes at WTKK Message-ID: <20110816211136.218750@gmx.com> With the announcement of Jay Severin starting at WXKS 1200 3-6 pm weekdays starting Thu., a lightning fast move at rival WTKK 96.9, Severin's former home. Apparently they are still doing Jim and Margery mornings, then Doug Meehan moves to 10 to noon followed at noon by live carriage of the Michael Smerconish show. Then from 3-7 pm, Michael Graham goes head to head against Howard Louis Carr on 680 and James Severino on 1200, followed by the wonderful "to be announced" at 7 pm. 10 pm on remains unchanged. From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Aug 16 17:26:45 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:26:45 -0400 Subject: That was fast: changes at WTKK References: <20110816211136.218750@gmx.com> Message-ID: <6559D8D50E444FACA9EEF64A3CC7E2CF@SatU205S5044> Is Carr still also on WCRN? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:11 PM Subject: That was fast: changes at WTKK > With the announcement of Jay Severin starting at WXKS 1200 3-6 pm > weekdays starting Thu., a lightning fast move at rival WTKK 96.9, > Severin's former home. Apparently they are still doing Jim and > Margery mornings, then Doug Meehan moves to 10 to noon followed at > noon by live carriage of the Michael > Smerconish show. Then from 3-7 pm, Michael Graham goes head to head > against Howard Louis Carr on 680 > and James Severino on 1200, followed by the wonderful "to be > announced" at 7 pm. 10 pm on remains > unchanged. From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Aug 16 17:21:19 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:21:19 -0400 Subject: That was fast: changes at WTKK In-Reply-To: <20110816211136.218750@gmx.com> References: <20110816211136.218750@gmx.com> Message-ID: <4E4ADF4F.7070003@donnahalper.com> On 8/16/2011 5:11 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > With the announcement of Jay Severin starting at WXKS 1200 3-6 pm weekdays starting Thu., a lightning fast move at rival WTKK 96.9, Severin's former home. Apparently they are still doing Jim and Margery mornings, then Doug Meehan moves to 10 to noon followed at noon by live carriage of the Michael Smerconish show. > I don't always agree with him, but Smerconish is a moderate Republican; I find him generally very fair and reasonable. Stylistically similar to the late great David Brudnoy-- not into insulting or name-calling. From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Aug 16 17:21:55 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:21:55 -0400 Subject: That was fast: changes at WTKK In-Reply-To: <20110816211136.218750@gmx.com> References: <20110816211136.218750@gmx.com> Message-ID: <4E4ADF73.9040100@attorneyross.com> On 8/16/2011 5:11 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > With the announcement of Jay Severin starting at WXKS 1200 3-6 pm weekdays starting Thu., a lightning fast move at rival WTKK 96.9, Severin's former home. Apparently they are still doing Jim and Margery mornings, then Doug Meehan moves to 10 to noon followed at noon by live carriage of the Michael > Smerconish show. Then from 3-7 pm, Michael Graham goes head to head against Howard Louis Carr on 680 > and James Severino on 1200, followed by the wonderful "to be announced" at 7 pm. 10 pm on remains > unchanged. "To Be Announced" must be the longest-running program on radio. ;-) -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From paul@derrynh.net Tue Aug 16 18:32:08 2011 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:32:08 -0400 Subject: That was fast: changes at WTKK In-Reply-To: <4E4ADF73.9040100@attorneyross.com> References: <20110816211136.218750@gmx.com> <4E4ADF73.9040100@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Someone could legally change their name to "to be announced"! (With shows nationwide!) I recall someone (Oregon maybe) changing their name to 'none of the above' in an attempt to win an election... -Paul Hopfgarten Epping NH -----Original Message----- From: A. Joseph Ross Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:21 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: That was fast: changes at WTKK On 8/16/2011 5:11 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > With the announcement of Jay Severin starting at WXKS 1200 3-6 pm weekdays > starting Thu., a lightning fast move at rival WTKK 96.9, Severin's former > home. Apparently they are still doing Jim and Margery mornings, then Doug > Meehan moves to 10 to noon followed at noon by live carriage of the > Michael > Smerconish show. Then from 3-7 pm, Michael Graham goes head to head > against Howard Louis Carr on 680 > and James Severino on 1200, followed by the wonderful "to be announced" > at 7 pm. 10 pm on remains > unchanged. "To Be Announced" must be the longest-running program on radio. ;-) -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Aug 16 19:14:26 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:14:26 -0400 Subject: That was fast: changes at WTKK In-Reply-To: References: <20110816211136.218750@gmx.com> <4E4ADF73.9040100@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <4E4AF9D2.4020900@attorneyross.com> On 8/16/2011 6:32 PM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > Someone could legally change their name to "to be announced"! (With > shows nationwide!) > > I recall someone (Oregon maybe) changing their name to 'none of the > above' in an attempt to win an election... I seem to remember a story of a private investigator who changed his name to "James C. Bond." I don't know what the C was supposed to stand for. Back in college, during the Batman TV show craze, someone wanted to appear on the ballot for class president as "Batman." When the student government authorities refused to put him on the ballot that way, he withdrew rather than not run as Batman. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Aug 17 02:49:53 2011 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:49:53 -0400 Subject: That was fast: changes at WTKK In-Reply-To: <6559D8D50E444FACA9EEF64A3CC7E2CF@SatU205S5044> References: <20110816211136.218750@gmx.com> <6559D8D50E444FACA9EEF64A3CC7E2CF@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: Yes, Howie is still airing on WCRN (his other MA affiliates are in Holyoke and on Cape Cod). WCRN had dropped Howie when he went through his "grounding" in late 2007, as he tried to leap to WTKK, but later brought him back. From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Aug 17 16:54:31 2011 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:54:31 +0000 Subject: WTKK adds Daily Wrap, picks up Batchelor earlier Message-ID: <20110817205431.62740@gmx.com> Thanks to Mark S. for the tip, and it's on the WTKK site as well--after Michael Graham finishes up at 7 pm, WTKK will now go to a Wall St Journal show called The Daily Wrap and then pick up John Batchelor at 9. From elipolo@earthlink.net Wed Aug 17 19:18:58 2011 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: HD subchannels Message-ID: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I get WRKO on 107.3 HD3 but if it's also supposed to be on 97.7 HD3, either it's not on the air yet, or my receivers aren't decoding it. I get WEEI on 97.7 HD2 and 107.3 HD2, but WRKO on 107.3 HD3 only. I receive these HD subchannels in Somerville on various receivers: 88.9 HD2- Broadway, off-Broadway show music 89.7 HD2- //WCRB, HD3-//WCAI 92.9 HD2- "Radio You" (mostly alt. rock) 93.3 HD2- Smooth Jazz 93.7 HD2- "Funkytown" (classic dance/disco) 94.5 HD2- "Old school" Rap/Hip-hop 96.1 HD2- "Pride Radio" (mostly Hot AC, dance) 96.9 HD2- Irish music 97.7 HD2- //WEEI (not receiving any 97.7 HD3) 98.5 HD2- "WBCN The Rock of Boston", HD3-//WBZ 100.7 HD2- "Mojo" (Blues), HD3-"Free Form WBCN" 102.5 HD2- Classic Country 103.3 HD2- Soft hits, HD3-Christian rock/pop 104.1 HD2- '80s, HD3-"The Sky" (New Age talk) 105.7 HD2- "Nothing But The '70s" 106.7 HD2- Smooth Jazz 107.3 HD2- //WEEI, HD3-//WRKO 107.9 HD2- //WXKS 1200 AM 93.3, 96.1 and 107.3 HD's are difficult to receive due to distance/signal strength. 104.1 HD3 is difficult to receive due to poor decoding. Cuts out while HD1 and HD2 are fine. EP From paul@derrynh.net Wed Aug 17 21:23:32 2011 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1400971253.485839.1313630612888.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw00.schlund.de> I was wondering... ? As WZID's HD-2 uses TX 94.1 W231BR Manchester and? TX 103.1 W276BJ Concord as Analog carriers, do any of the stations in the metro Boston market do the same? ? -Paul Hopfgarten Epping NH On August 17, 2011 at 7:18 PM Eli Polonsky wrote: > I get WRKO on 107.3 HD3 but if it's also supposed > to be on 97.7 HD3, either it's not on the air yet, > or my receivers aren't decoding it. I get WEEI on > 97.7 HD2 and 107.3 HD2, but WRKO on 107.3 HD3 only. > > I receive these HD subchannels in Somerville > on various receivers: > > 88.9? HD2- Broadway, off-Broadway show music > 89.7? HD2- //WCRB, HD3-//WCAI > 92.9? HD2- "Radio You" (mostly alt. rock) > 93.3? HD2- Smooth Jazz > 93.7? HD2- "Funkytown" (classic dance/disco) > 94.5? HD2- "Old school" Rap/Hip-hop > 96.1? HD2- "Pride Radio" (mostly Hot AC, dance) > 96.9? HD2- Irish music > 97.7? HD2- //WEEI (not receiving any 97.7 HD3) > 98.5? HD2- "WBCN The Rock of Boston", HD3-//WBZ > 100.7 HD2- "Mojo" (Blues), HD3-"Free Form WBCN" > 102.5 HD2- Classic Country > 103.3 HD2- Soft hits, HD3-Christian rock/pop > 104.1 HD2- '80s, HD3-"The Sky" (New Age talk) > 105.7 HD2- "Nothing But The '70s" > 106.7 HD2- Smooth Jazz > 107.3 HD2- //WEEI, HD3-//WRKO > 107.9 HD2- //WXKS 1200 AM > > 93.3, 96.1 and 107.3 HD's are difficult to > receive due to distance/signal strength. > > 104.1 HD3 is difficult to receive due to poor > decoding. Cuts out while HD1 and HD2 are fine. > > EP > > > > From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Aug 17 20:56:42 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:56:42 -0400 Subject: Channel 7 to have 9 AM newscast Message-ID: With Regis and Kelly moving to channel 5 - WHDH will simply add another hour of news. http://mobile.boston.com/art/35/Boston/businessupdates/2011/08/whdh-launches-newscast/l7GKpCDPbvO6bgCTvT8mMM/index From marklaurence@mac.com Wed Aug 17 22:09:21 2011 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:09:21 -0400 Subject: Channel 7 to have 9 AM newscast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <88BD3418-202F-4577-B8E9-1B56478585B8@mac.com> On Aug 17, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > With Regis and Kelly moving to channel 5 - WHDH will simply add another hour > of news. > > http://mobile.boston.com/art/35/Boston/businessupdates/2011/08/whdh-launches-newscast/l7GKpCDPbvO6bgCTvT8mMM/index Pretty smart. For all the money they're throwing around for Regis and Ellen, I'd rather just watch the news. From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Aug 18 00:28:18 2011 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 00:28:18 -0400 Subject: Channel 7 to have 9 AM newscast In-Reply-To: <88BD3418-202F-4577-B8E9-1B56478585B8@mac.com> References: <88BD3418-202F-4577-B8E9-1B56478585B8@mac.com> Message-ID: <411E40E9-8E8F-473C-9ABB-D9427311ACBD@mac.com> On Aug 17, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Mark Laurence wrote: > On Aug 17, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > >> With Regis and Kelly moving to channel 5 - WHDH will simply add another hour >> of news. >> >> http://mobile.boston.com/art/35/Boston/businessupdates/2011/08/whdh-launches-newscast/l7GKpCDPbvO6bgCTvT8mMM/index > > Pretty smart. For all the money they're throwing around for Regis and Ellen, I'd rather just watch the news. > But I thought Regis is retiring this fall, so I guess it?s gonna be Kelly and ?. I haven?t heard any announcement on a replacement for Regis yet. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Thu Aug 18 07:58:50 2011 From: dmoisan@davidmoisan.org (David Moisan) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:58:50 +0000 Subject: Channel 7 to have 9 AM newscast In-Reply-To: <411E40E9-8E8F-473C-9ABB-D9427311ACBD@mac.com> References: <88BD3418-202F-4577-B8E9-1B56478585B8@mac.com> <411E40E9-8E8F-473C-9ABB-D9427311ACBD@mac.com> Message-ID: <166A8F21E968144697CA0F636ABB50291856F203@SLAPPY.dmproductions.local> > Pretty smart. For all the money they're throwing around for Regis and Ellen, I'd rather just watch the news. > But I thought Regis is retiring this fall, so I guess it's gonna be Kelly and ?. I haven't heard any announcement on a replacement for Regis yet. --- WCVB is advertising Regis so...? From aerie.ma@comcast.net Thu Aug 18 08:46:16 2011 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:46:16 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <012401cc5da4$d628f590$827ae0b0$@ma@comcast.net> In Andover, I get all the Boston, Manchester, and Worcester HD stations on a folded dipole except for WXKS-FM and WJMN. I'm not sure why those two have never come in, considering their transmitters are in the same place as many of the other transmitters (WXKS-FM on the Pru, and WJMN on 128). I blame it on Clear Channel...hahaha. Which makes me think of another question: why do stations that were originally licensed to a suburb, but which have moved to the same antenna locations as stations licensed to Boston itself, still identify themselves with the suburban town in which they were originally licensed? For example, when WROR was WKOX-FM with a short tower in Framingham, it made sense that the station was licensed to Framingham. But now that WROR is on the Pru and its studios in Boston, why is it still licensed to Framingham? I can understand why WCRB and WMKK are licensed to Lowell and Lawrence, since their transmitters are separate from the Boston-licensed stations, but why are WROR, WXKS-FM, and WKLB still licensed to suburban towns/cities? I would think it would be harder to sell time on a station that advertisers might perceive as a "rimshot" based on the city of license. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Eli Polonsky Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:19 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: HD subchannels I get WRKO on 107.3 HD3 but if it's also supposed to be on 97.7 HD3, either it's not on the air yet, or my receivers aren't decoding it. I get WEEI on 97.7 HD2 and 107.3 HD2, but WRKO on 107.3 HD3 only. I receive these HD subchannels in Somerville on various receivers: 88.9 HD2- Broadway, off-Broadway show music 89.7 HD2- //WCRB, HD3-//WCAI 92.9 HD2- "Radio You" (mostly alt. rock) 93.3 HD2- Smooth Jazz 93.7 HD2- "Funkytown" (classic dance/disco) 94.5 HD2- "Old school" Rap/Hip-hop 96.1 HD2- "Pride Radio" (mostly Hot AC, dance) 96.9 HD2- Irish music 97.7 HD2- //WEEI (not receiving any 97.7 HD3) 98.5 HD2- "WBCN The Rock of Boston", HD3-//WBZ 100.7 HD2- "Mojo" (Blues), HD3-"Free Form WBCN" 102.5 HD2- Classic Country 103.3 HD2- Soft hits, HD3-Christian rock/pop 104.1 HD2- '80s, HD3-"The Sky" (New Age talk) 105.7 HD2- "Nothing But The '70s" 106.7 HD2- Smooth Jazz 107.3 HD2- //WEEI, HD3-//WRKO 107.9 HD2- //WXKS 1200 AM 93.3, 96.1 and 107.3 HD's are difficult to receive due to distance/signal strength. 104.1 HD3 is difficult to receive due to poor decoding. Cuts out while HD1 and HD2 are fine. EP From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Aug 18 10:04:34 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:04:34 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <012401cc5da4$d628f590$827ae0b0$@ma@comcast.net> Message-ID: The FCC frowns on stations applying to change their CoLs to more populous communities and in cases where the station that is attempting to move is the only audio broadcast service licensed to its CoL, the FCC generally rejects the applications out of hand. In the case of 105.7, it is fortunate for WXKS (AM) that Greater Media never tried to change 105.7's CoL. After a 105.7 CoL change (to, say, Boston) had been accomplished, had AM 1200 applied to move, the little Framingham State College station (a non-comm Class D, I believe) would have been the only audio-broadcast station that remained licensed to Framingham. The FCC would not have liked that situation and AM 1200 might have been forced to remain in Framingham, essentially making it impossible for the station to become a "Boston" signal. Note that 1200 changed its CoL to Newton and not to Boston, even though I'm pretty sure that it meets the signal requirements for being licensed to Boston. Although there are two other audio broadcast stations licensed to Newton (WZBC and WNTN), 1200 is the only commercial Newton-licensed station that operates full time. That plus 105.7's being licensed to Framingham gave 1200 all of the brownie points it needed with the FCC to move to Newton. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hall" To: Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: RE: HD subchannels > Which makes me think of another question: why do stations that were > originally licensed to a suburb, but which have moved to the same > antenna locations as stations licensed to Boston itself, still > identify themselves with the suburban town in which they were > originally licensed? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Aug 18 10:36:59 2011 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:36:59 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Of course we notice the COLs but stations often accent the larger area they're serving to try and convince the listener that they're really based there. At the TOH, WMKK IDs as "WMKK Lawrence-Boston", I believe, but at other times, and they can do this, there will be some kind of promo with the WMKK Voice Guy saying, "We play everything. Mike 93.7...Boston." The FCC requires the calls and actual COL once per hour, but otherwise the station can use its nickname and say "Boston", as in the bigger city it's serving. Then there was the time when WKLB used to be at 99.5 licensed to Lowell and the ID at the TOH would say "WKLB, Lowell-Boston" and the "Lowell" was said quickly and softly. It almost sounded like "...oh..." When they did a jingle, it said "WKLB...Boston!" It still does even though they're actually licensed to Waltham, at 102.5. You will hear "WKLB--Boston!" as their jingle, of course, not "WKLB...Waltham!" :) As said before a station can ID with its calls and COL and then add what they want to accent what cities they serve besides the COL. I could say "WMWM Salem-Beverly-Danvers-Peabody" if I wanted, as long as the "WMWM Salem" was there. I think the 107.1 up in Barre VT would say "WORK Barre-Montpelier-Plainfield-(and about 5 other towns)" What I'm getting at is that even if WROR is licensed to Framingham but broadcasts from the Pru, they must say "WROR Framingham- (Boston)" as their ID but during liners, promos, etc they can get away with "WROR Boston" if they wish. As far as listeners are concerned, most would consider WMKK, WROR, WXKS (AM), and even WCRB as "Boston" stations even if they are licensed to Lawrence, Framingham, Newton, and Lowell. WMKK's studios are in Boston and its stick is in Peabody, but it's still licensed to Lawrence hence the legal ID, but as far as their imaging is concerned it's "Mike 93.7...Boston". From bob.bosra@demattia.net Thu Aug 18 10:51:42 2011 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:51:42 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > > said "WKLB...Boston!" It still does even though they're actually > licensed to Waltham, at 102.5. You will > hear "WKLB--Boston!" as their jingle, of course, not "WKLB...Waltham!" :) > > And often WKLB buries the legal ID sometime around 8 minutes before the hour (with a soft quick voice). The ID at the top of the hour is the much more noticeable WKLB jingle. And yes, their legal callsign is WKLB-FM. Plain ol' WKLB belongs to an AM station in Kentucky. -Bob From vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net Thu Aug 18 09:19:26 2011 From: vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net (=?utf-8?b?RG91ZyBEcm93bg==?=) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:19:26 -0400 Subject: Channel 7 to have 9 AM newscast Message-ID: <20110818091926.9h62ovcc0ocgkokc@webmail.myfairpoint.net> It'll be interesting to see who succeeds Regis. ?I don't see the show very often, but the best guest host I happened to catch was Neil Patrick Harris, who, to paraphrase Lucy, "has talent in places where most people don't even have places." ?He'd be great for the show, but I highly doubt he'd leave his sitcom. -Doug On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:58:50 +0000, David Moisan wrote: > Pretty smart. For all the money they're throwing around for Regis > and Ellen, I'd rather just watch the news. > > But I thought Regis is retiring this fall, so I guess it's gonna be > Kelly and ?. I haven't heard any announcement on a replacement for > Regis yet. > > --- > > WCVB is advertising Regis so...? > > From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Aug 18 11:45:46 2011 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:45:46 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> >As said before a station can ID with its calls and COL and then add what they want to accent what cities they serve besides the COL. I could say "WMWM Salem-Beverly-Danvers-Peabody" if I wanted, as long as the "WMWM Salem" was there. < Bob, you're only partially right there. You would have to say "WMWM Salem" and then add whatever towns you wanted after. Salem, as the COL, would have to be first. Correct form "WMWM Salem" "WMWM 91.7 Salem" "WMWM Channel 219 Salem" Incorrect form: "WMWM Beverly-Salem" "WMWM 91.7 FM Salem" "91.7 WMWM" Brian From paul@derrynh.net Thu Aug 18 12:51:36 2011 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:51:36 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> Message-ID: <9918E9A226744203B568F95E61151528@PaulPC> I have NEVER heard a station ID by Channel #.......(EXCEPT FOR TXs which have the Channel # in the calls....) WXKS-FM Channel 300 Medford-Boston......KISS 300 FM! (Or would be KISS 300.5...........LOL) Radio 225 IS WBOS Brookline-Boston Jamn 233... 253...the Sports Hub.... etc, etc..... -Paul H -----Original Message----- From: Brian Vita Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:45 AM To: 'Bob Nelson' ; 'Dan.Strassberg' Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: RE: HD subchannels >As said before a station can ID with its calls and COL and then add what they want to accent what cities they serve besides the COL. I could say "WMWM Salem-Beverly-Danvers-Peabody" if I wanted, as long as the "WMWM Salem" was there. < Bob, you're only partially right there. You would have to say "WMWM Salem" and then add whatever towns you wanted after. Salem, as the COL, would have to be first. Correct form "WMWM Salem" "WMWM 91.7 Salem" "WMWM Channel 219 Salem" Incorrect form: "WMWM Beverly-Salem" "WMWM 91.7 FM Salem" "91.7 WMWM" Brian From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Aug 18 13:00:30 2011 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:00:30 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <9918E9A226744203B568F95E61151528@PaulPC> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> <9918E9A226744203B568F95E61151528@PaulPC> Message-ID: <007201cc5dc8$599151c0$0cb3f540$@com> >I have NEVER heard a station ID by Channel #.......(EXCEPT FOR TXs which have the Channel # in the calls....)< I didn't say people were doing it. I said that it was legal. From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Thu Aug 18 12:49:47 2011 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:49:47 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20110818123451.02829d18@plymouthcolony.net> At 11:45 AM 8/18/2011, Brian Vita wrote: >You would have to say "WMWM Salem" >and then add whatever towns you wanted after. Salem, as the COL, would have >to be first. The rule is that the only things that can come between calls and COL are the frequency or channel number, name of licensee, and network affiliation. See the current revision of Section 73.1201 of 47 CFR. Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From sid@wrko.com Thu Aug 18 09:58:44 2011 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:58:44 +0000 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <012401cc5da4$d628f590$827ae0b0$@ma@comcast.net> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <012401cc5da4$d628f590$827ae0b0$@ma@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA369792@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> "why do stations that were originally licensed to a suburb, but which have moved to the same antenna locations as stations licensed to Boston itself, still identify themselves with the suburban town in which they were originally licensed?" Because the "community of license" is a material term of the license, which means that to change it the licensee must apply to the FCC. It's not necessarily an easy thing to change, particularly if the smaller community has only the one station licensed to it and moving the COL to the larger city would mean that the smaller community loses its only service. And if you're thinking that rule is horribly out of date, IMO you'd be right. The political pressures brought to bear on the FCC and its predecessor agencies over the years means that the original concept of a limited number of stations serving the entire nation is long gone, replaced by the idea that every area of the US should have at least one station serving the local area. I'd have to guess that these days it would be politically unfeasible to reverse that policy. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From bob.bosra@demattia.net Thu Aug 18 14:11:56 2011 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:11:56 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA369792@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA369792@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: *The political pressures brought to bear on the FCC and its predecessor agencies over the years means that the original concept of a limited number of stations serving the entire nation is long gone, replaced by the idea that every area of the US should have at least one station serving the local area. I'd have to guess that these days it would be politically unfeasible to reverse that policy. * I think it's also a practical issue as well as a political one. The COL license applies much better to AM stations, specially the 1kW / 5kW types. There still are AMs that focus on particular communities - such as WTAG, WCAP, or WMRC come to mind. Class B (or C) FM stations cover a fairly large area beyond the COL - for example 93.7, 99.5, 105.7. If 93.7 were to focus its programming on its Lawrence listeners, that would be ignoring a very large part of its coverage area. One might argue that it still makes sense for class A FMs. Areas like Laconia or Rochester NH have class A's that serve the local community. -Bob > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom New England > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > Brighton MA 02135-2040 > > > > > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Aug 18 16:23:43 2011 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:23:43 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> Message-ID: That's what I said--WMWM Salem (then add the others). Salem definitely first. I recall WNSH when its studios were on Willow St in Hamilton saying "WNSH Beverly-Hamilton" (who is Beverly Hamilton? And who is "Lisa Catera?"--there used to be ads for Cadillac Catera, saying "lease a Catera" and the joke at the end asked that...) WNEF has ID'd as "WNEF Newburyport-Amesbury", the latter town aknowledging what town the antenna is in (optional on their part) From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Aug 18 17:04:25 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 17:04:25 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net><000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> Message-ID: The Cadillac ads ran during ER and the show's producers got so many inquiries about Lisa Catera that they added a character named Lisa Catera to the cast! I have never verified the truth of that story but I heard someone from ER tell it during a radio interview and the story was told as if it was the honest truth, so I have no reason to believe that the story was made up. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: Cc: "Dan.Strassberg" ; Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:23 PM Subject: Re: HD subchannels > That's what I said--WMWM Salem (then add the others). Salem > definitely > first. I recall WNSH when its studios were on Willow St in Hamilton > saying "WNSH Beverly-Hamilton" (who is Beverly Hamilton? And who is > "Lisa Catera?"--there used to be ads for Cadillac Catera, saying > "lease a Catera" and the joke at the end asked that...) > > WNEF has ID'd as "WNEF Newburyport-Amesbury", the latter town > aknowledging what town the antenna is in (optional on their part) From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Aug 18 16:47:56 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:47:56 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> Message-ID: <4E4D7A7C.9070202@attorneyross.com> On 8/18/2011 4:23 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > That's what I said--WMWM Salem (then add the others). Salem definitely > first. I recall WNSH when its studios were on Willow St in Hamilton > saying "WNSH Beverly-Hamilton" (who is Beverly Hamilton? And who is > "Lisa Catera?" Good question. And who is Beth Israel? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Aug 18 17:25:59 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 17:25:59 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net><000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> Message-ID: <4E4D8367.3000900@donnahalper.com> On 8/18/2011 5:04 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > The Cadillac ads ran during ER and the show's producers got so many > inquiries about Lisa Catera that they added a character named Lisa > Catera to the cast! I have never verified the truth of that story but > I heard someone from ER tell it during a radio interview and the story > was told as if it was the honest truth, so I have no reason to believe > that the story was made up. It was not made up. I was a faithful fan of ER and I recall the character of "Lisa Catera" as well as the story at that time (I believe it was in the Hollywood Reporter) explaining how the character got her name. I thought it was kind of clever, actually. The ultimate in product placement! From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Aug 18 17:24:48 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 17:24:48 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net><000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> Message-ID: <4E4D8320.2010902@attorneyross.com> On 8/18/2011 5:04 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > The Cadillac ads ran during ER and the show's producers got so many > inquiries about Lisa Catera that they added a character named Lisa > Catera to the cast! I have never verified the truth of that story but > I heard someone from ER tell it during a radio interview and the story > was told as if it was the honest truth, so I have no reason to believe > that the story was made up. No character by that name on ER listed in the IMDB (Internet Movie Data Base), but there is an actress by that name: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1891496/ There's also a Lisa Catara who is aka Lisa Catera: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2334495/ -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From irw@well.com Thu Aug 18 17:53:50 2011 From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <2127354475.3319.1313704410420.JavaMail.root@zimbra.well.com> Message-ID: <2058847831.3325.1313704430574.JavaMail.root@zimbra.well.com> My non-personally-Jewish Spidey Sense says that Beth Isreal means "House of Israel." - Blaine -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Blaine Thompson Indiana RadioWatch irw@well.com http://www.indianaradio.net AOL Instant Messenger: indianaradio5 From lspin@comcast.net Thu Aug 18 18:36:25 2011 From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:36:25 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <4E4D8320.2010902@attorneyross.com> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net><000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> <4E4D8320.2010902@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <006301cc5df7$44e38b10$ceaaa130$@net> I believe the show was actually Chicago Hope. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of A. Joseph Ross Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:25 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: HD subchannels No character by that name on ER listed in the IMDB (Internet Movie Data Base), but there is an actress by that name: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1891496/ There's also a Lisa Catara who is aka Lisa Catera: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2334495/ -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From mkr@matthewsworkbench.com Thu Aug 18 19:16:50 2011 From: mkr@matthewsworkbench.com (Matthew Reed) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:16:50 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <4E4D8367.3000900@donnahalper.com> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> <4E4D8367.3000900@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: Donna Halper wrote: > It was not made up. ?I was a faithful fan of ER and I recall the character > of "Lisa Catera" as well as the story at that time (I believe it was in the > Hollywood Reporter) explaining how the character got her name. I thought it > was kind of clever, actually. ?The ultimate in product placement! On Chicago Hope, a contemporary medical drama, there was a character named "Dr. Lisa Catera" played by Stacy Edwards. I remember that Cadillac put out a press release describing how the name was inspired by that commercial. From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Aug 19 01:02:48 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 01:02:48 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <2058847831.3325.1313704430574.JavaMail.root@zimbra.well.com> References: <2058847831.3325.1313704430574.JavaMail.root@zimbra.well.com> Message-ID: <4E4DEE78.2070001@attorneyross.com> On 8/18/2011 5:53 PM, Blaine Thompson wrote: > My non-personally-Jewish Spidey Sense says that Beth Isreal means "House of Israel." > > - Blaine > I know THAT! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Aug 19 01:04:54 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 01:04:54 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <006301cc5df7$44e38b10$ceaaa130$@net> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net><000f01cc5dbd$e8e4e9a0$baaebce0$@com> <4E4D8320.2010902@attorneyross.com> <006301cc5df7$44e38b10$ceaaa130$@net> Message-ID: <4E4DEEF6.4030102@attorneyross.com> On 8/18/2011 6:36 PM, Lou wrote: > I believe the show was actually Chicago Hope. Yes, for that show, the IMDB lists a Dr. Lisa Catera, played by Stacy Edwards. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Aug 19 02:05:21 2011 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 02:05:21 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <012401cc5da4$d628f590$827ae0b0$@ma@comcast.net> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <012401cc5da4$d628f590$827ae0b0$@ma@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20045.64801.66355.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Which makes me think of another question: why do stations that were > originally licensed to a suburb, but which have moved to the same > antenna locations as stations licensed to Boston itself, still > identify themselves with the suburban town in which they were > originally licensed? Other people have answered the main question, but I just wanted to expand a bit on their answers. The FCC's regulatory structure considers every little bump in the road to be, at least potentially, a "community" which could be "served" by some local radio station. The system for FM allocations gives preference to stations which are the "first local service" in a particular community, and at present it is simply not permitted to take away the last "local service". (There are also preferences for "second local service" and "first audio service".) However, what the FCC considers to be "local service" does not require the licensee to do anything special beyond mumbling the name of the "community" during a legal ID buried in the :52 stop set. (Well, technically, the legal ID rule doesn't allow that, but the FCC has not enforced the legal ID rule as written in many years.) So if someone wants to move the last "local" station away from one community, it must in general jump through three hoops: 1) Find a new community name which receives a city-grade signal from the proposed new station location, which has no stations licensed *to that exact text string*. (The FCC would consider West Barnstable as potentially distinct from Barnstable, for example, even though West Barnstable is a part of Barnstable.) The proponent must demonstrate that the proposed community is a "distinct" community, which historically could be done by browsing the yellow pages and writing some nonsense about how it has its own post office, numerous businesses use the community name in the name of their business, it has a local government of some sort, etc. There are also special rules prohibiting stations from moving into an "urbanized area" (as defined by the Census Bureau), so if the station is not currently in such an area, the new community must not be in one either. 2) Find some means to "backfill" the old community, either by identifying another allotment that could replace the one being moved (for example, replacing a big class-B signal with a barely-feasible class-A), or more commonly, finding some other station in the large market that everyone is trying to serve which can be relicensed to the old community without making any facilities changes. The backfill station would have to come from a community that already had at least one "local service". (I don't think they let you backfill with a bare allotment any more, unless the old facility was also an unbuilt allotment.) In the past decade there have been some instances of backfill chains a dozen or more stations long. 3) Apply for a full construction permit for both the originally intended change and also the backfill facility. Even if the backfill facility requires no technical changes to serve its new community, a full CP and license to cover process is required, which means that the station loses grandfathering, must do full RFR and possibly environmental processing, and undertake other costly engineering work -- all preparatory to replacing the sign in the studio that tells the jocks what to say when legal-ID time rolls around (or, alternatively, paying voice talent to redo the pre-recorded IDs). The sensible thing to do would be to allow any station whose principal-community contour encompasses all or nearly all of a Core-Based Statistical Area to identify with one or more of the core communities of that area (as defined by OMB). -GAWollman From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Aug 19 04:13:47 2011 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 04:13:47 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: HD subchannels Message-ID: <7227321.1313741627254.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:04:34 -0400 >From: "Dan.Strassberg" >Subject: Re: HD subchannels > >After a 105.7 CoL change (to, say, Boston) had been >accomplished, had AM 1200 applied to move, the little >Framingham State College station (a non-comm Class D, >I believe) would have been the only audio-broadcast >station that remained licensed to Framingham. WDJM 91.3 FM from Framingham State College is Class A, with the minimum of 100 watts required for that class. Its effective reception is "hemmed in" by a number of co-channel stations (including a strong pirate in Boston) and first-adjacents on 91.5, and by powerful second-adjacent WBUR (and its IBOC) on 90.9. EP From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Aug 19 04:25:23 2011 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 04:25:23 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: HD subchannels Message-ID: <6119787.1313742323100.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:47:56 -0400 >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Re: HD subchannels > >On 8/18/2011 4:23 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > >> I recall WNSH when its studios were on Willow St >> in Hamilton saying "WNSH Beverly-Hamilton" (who >> is Beverly Hamilton? And who is "Lisa Catera?" > >Good question. And who is Beth Israel? In the wintertime when WBZ reads its long list of school storm cancelations alphabetically by city or town, it often mentions the former Presidents daughter "...Chelsea, Clinton,..." EP From ssmyth@psualum.com Fri Aug 19 07:00:22 2011 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 04:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 Message-ID: <1313751622.56125.YahooMailNeo@web110513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Bigwig says this has been in the works for a while. http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/128057728.html http://delcotimes.com/articles/2011/08/19/news/doc4e4dcc4b5b763214674830.txt How long before CBS does this in New York with WFAN? (How are 92.3 and 102.7 doing in the ratings?)? Also of note: Howard Eskin, WIP's longtime afternoon host, is stepping down next month. From sid@wrko.com Fri Aug 19 08:46:10 2011 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:46:10 +0000 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <20045.64801.66355.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <012401cc5da4$d628f590$827ae0b0$@ma@comcast.net> <20045.64801.66355.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA36A440@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> "the FCC has not enforced the legal ID rule as written in many years." I'll admit it's not at the top of the Enforcement Bureau's hit list, but to say it's not enforced is wrong. One of my company's stations got nabbed violating that rule a few years back, and every time we have an MBA-sponsored ABIP inspection, legal ID times are checked. It's far more important to the FCC to find a folder that belonged in the public file in the wrong file drawer. No, I'm not kidding; the FCC's Notice of Violation on this one reads: "During the inspection conducted on June 15, 2011, the Political File for the 2010 general election was not located with the public inspection file, it was misplaced in a separate drawer by the licensee." (Ref.: http://transition.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-308430A1.html) OTOH, most other countries seem to get by just fine without required station IDs at a set time in a certain format. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From sid@wrko.com Fri Aug 19 08:53:47 2011 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:53:47 +0000 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <7227321.1313741627254.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <7227321.1313741627254.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA36A45A@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> "WDJM 91.3 FM from Framingham State College is Class A, with the minimum of 100 watts required for that class." Framingham State *University*. Not sure about the other state "colleges," but ours was renamed last year. Sid Schweiger Contract Engineer, WDJM-FM From aerie.ma@comcast.net Fri Aug 19 09:02:32 2011 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:02:32 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA36A440@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <012401cc5da4$d628f590$827ae0b0$@ma@comcast.net> <20045.64801.66355.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA36A440@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <001401cc5e70$46afdba0$d40f92e0$@ma@comcast.net> You would think stations would be proud to identify themselves. I remember when WVBF used to make a big deal of it with the call letters alternating from one stereo channel to the other, followed by "Framingham" from the left and "Boston" from the right. The most annoying station ID to me is the two whispering females on WTKK. The word "Boston" is nearly unintelligible. Given some of their programming...maybe they ARE embarrassed to give their call letters...hahaha "the FCC has not enforced the legal ID rule as written in many years." From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Aug 19 09:19:22 2011 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:19:22 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA36A45A@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> References: <7227321.1313741627254.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA36A45A@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <5ADFEDFA-0B0E-4818-B26C-2B737BEC180A@comcast.net> Bridgewater State is now University as well. A few months back, Peter George and I reprogrammed the RDS text on 91.5 WBIM to show university instead of college. Jeff Lehmann On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Sid Schweiger wrote: > "WDJM 91.3 FM from Framingham State College is Class A, with the minimum of 100 watts required for that class." > > Framingham State *University*. Not sure about the other state "colleges," but ours was renamed last year. > > Sid Schweiger > Contract Engineer, WDJM-FM > > From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Aug 19 10:32:27 2011 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:32:27 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA36A45A@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> References: <7227321.1313741627254.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA36A45A@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <20046.29691.156686.66359@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Framingham State *University*. Not sure about the other state > "colleges," but ours was renamed last year. All of the remaining state colleges were upgraded in one fell swoop last year. At least you don't hear anyone still calling it "Framingham Normal School". -GAWollman From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Aug 19 11:33:56 2011 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:33:56 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: <1313751622.56125.YahooMailNeo@web110513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1313751622.56125.YahooMailNeo@web110513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Aug 19, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > Bigwig says this has been in the works for a while. > > http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/128057728.html > > > http://delcotimes.com/articles/2011/08/19/news/doc4e4dcc4b5b763214674830.txt > > > How long before CBS does this in New York with WFAN? (How are 92.3 and 102.7 doing in the ratings?) I don?t think the situation is the same in New York. WFAN has a much stronger signal than does WIP. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From sid@wrko.com Fri Aug 19 09:00:03 2011 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:00:03 +0000 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: <1313751622.56125.YahooMailNeo@web110513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1313751622.56125.YahooMailNeo@web110513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA36A472@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> "Bigwig says this has been in the works for a while. http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/128057728.html" Take particular note of the branding: Sports Radio 94 WIP. IOW, the FM's dial position, not the AM's, and it looks as if a call sign change is in the works as well. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From ssmyth@psualum.com Fri Aug 19 13:33:04 2011 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: References: <1313751622.56125.YahooMailNeo@web110513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1313775184.83158.YahooMailNeo@web110512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Larry Weil wrote: > I don?t think the situation is the same in New York.? WFAN has a much stronger signal than does WIP. Fair point, but I wouldn't say WIP's signal is weak either. From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Fri Aug 19 12:52:23 2011 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:52:23 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: References: <1313751622.56125.YahooMailNeo@web110513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It'll happen, WCBS or WINS and WFAN will eventually end up with some sort of FM signal on the regular FM band instead of an HD2/3 signal On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Larry Weil wrote: > > On Aug 19, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > > > Bigwig says this has been in the works for a while. > > > > http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/128057728.html > > > > > > > http://delcotimes.com/articles/2011/08/19/news/doc4e4dcc4b5b763214674830.txt > > > > > > How long before CBS does this in New York with WFAN? (How are 92.3 and > 102.7 doing in the ratings?) > > I don?t think the situation is the same in New York. WFAN has a much > stronger signal than does WIP. > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > > > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Aug 19 18:25:50 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 18:25:50 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 References: <1313751622.56125.YahooMailNeo@web110513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1313775184.83158.YahooMailNeo@web110512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03B88CC98C4B4795B6A4AB3262ED3E15@SatU205S5044> Without question, WIP (AM) has the best signal of any 5 kW-U AM in the Philadelphia market. By day, the coverage is very similar to KYW's, except, instead of WEPN, KYW's New York-market 50-kW first adjacent, which has a fairly broad pattern, WIP's New York-market first adjacent is super-directional 3-kW (D; 7.6 kW-N) WSNR, whose teardrop patterns aimed east-southeast don't even produce a listenable signal north of 34th St. A Philly AM that used to be 5 kW-U (WPEN) has upgraded to almost 50 kW-D and 21 kW-N, yet in Philly, the radio geeks don't give it credit for having a signal anywhere near as good as WIP's. Of Philly's 5-kW AMs, only Salem's WFIL comes close to matching WIP and it doesn't really do that because of nighttime directional-pattern differences. By night, of course, WIP does not have secondary skywave coverage, whereas KYW does. But if you don't count the folks in Ohio, western New York, and southern Ontario, who can hear KYW clear as a bell at night, WIP's coverage is just as good as that of 50 kW-U KYW. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Smyth" To: "Larry Weil" ; "Boston Radio" Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 1:33 PM Subject: Re: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 > Larry Weil wrote: > >> I don?t think the situation is the same in New York. WFAN has a >> much stronger signal than does WIP. > > Fair point, but I wouldn't say WIP's signal is weak either. > From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Aug 19 19:24:53 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 19:24:53 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: <03B88CC98C4B4795B6A4AB3262ED3E15@SatU205S5044> References: <1313751622.56125.YahooMailNeo@web110513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1313775184.83158.YahooMailNeo@web110512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <03B88CC98C4B4795B6A4AB3262ED3E15@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: I wonder if WXRT Chicago is in trouble. The White Sox have told CBS they want to be on FM and WSCR sounds awful in the city. WYSP actually has a much higher came than WIP and slightly ahead in the overall ratings. But with no locks and music fees to pay CBS must figure they will make more. On Aug 19, 2011 7:06 PM, "Dan.Strassberg" wrote: > Without question, WIP (AM) has the best signal of any 5 kW-U AM in the > Philadelphia market. By day, the coverage is very similar to KYW's, > except, instead of WEPN, KYW's New York-market 50-kW first adjacent, > which has a fairly broad pattern, WIP's New York-market first adjacent > is super-directional 3-kW (D; 7.6 kW-N) WSNR, whose teardrop patterns > aimed east-southeast don't even produce a listenable signal north of > 34th St. A Philly AM that used to be 5 kW-U (WPEN) has upgraded to > almost 50 kW-D and 21 kW-N, yet in Philly, the radio geeks don't give > it credit for having a signal anywhere near as good as WIP's. Of > Philly's 5-kW AMs, only Salem's WFIL comes close to matching WIP and > it doesn't really do that because of nighttime directional-pattern > differences. > > By night, of course, WIP does not have secondary skywave coverage, > whereas KYW does. But if you don't count the folks in Ohio, western > New York, and southern Ontario, who can hear KYW clear as a bell at > night, WIP's coverage is just as good as that of 50 kW-U KYW. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sean Smyth" > To: "Larry Weil" ; "Boston Radio" > > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 1:33 PM > Subject: Re: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 > > >> Larry Weil wrote: >> >>> I don?t think the situation is the same in New York. WFAN has a >>> much stronger signal than does WIP. >> >> Fair point, but I wouldn't say WIP's signal is weak either. >> > From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 20 01:04:35 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 01:04:35 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <001401cc5e70$46afdba0$d40f92e0$@ma@comcast.net> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <012401cc5da4$d628f590$827ae0b0$@ma@comcast.net> <20045.64801.66355.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA36A440@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> <001401cc5e70$46afdba0$d40f92e0$@ma@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4E4F4063.8080901@attorneyross.com> On 8/19/2011 9:02 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > You would think stations would be proud to identify themselves. I remember > when WVBF used to make a big deal of it with the call letters alternating > from one stereo channel to the other, followed by "Framingham" from the left > and "Boston" from the right. The most annoying station ID to me is the two > whispering females on WTKK. The word "Boston" is nearly unintelligible. > Given some of their programming...maybe they ARE embarrassed to give their > call letters...hahaha > > "the FCC has not enforced the legal ID rule as written in many years." Reminds me of the story, possibly apocryphal, about a San Francisco radio station which wanted to be WKRP in San Francisco (back when the sitcom WKRP in Cincinnati" was popular). Of course, they couldn't get a W callsign in California, so they chose KRPN. And for their legal ID, they said, "This is W KRPN San Francisco." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Sun Aug 21 10:07:13 2011 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 10:07:13 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <4E4F4063.8080901@attorneyross.com> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <012401cc5da4$d628f590$827ae0b0$@ma@comcast.net> <20045.64801.66355.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA36A440@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> <001401cc5e70$46afdba0$d40f92e0$@ma@comcast.net> <4E4F4063.8080901@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <4E511111.5080903@fybush.com> On 8/20/2011 1:04 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > Reminds me of the story, possibly apocryphal, about a San Francisco > radio station which wanted to be WKRP in San Francisco (back when the > sitcom WKRP in Cincinnati" was popular). Of course, they couldn't get a > W callsign in California, so they chose KRPN. And for their legal ID, > they said, "This is W KRPN San Francisco." > Not apocryphal, but not San Francisco, either. It was a Salt Lake City rimshot on 107.9, licensed to Roy, Utah. In 1986, it took the callsign "KRPN" and began identifying itself on air as "WKRP," doing its legal ID thusly: "This is W KRPN Roy-Salt Lake City." The gimmick didn't last long. The calls changed by 1992 and have flipped again numerous times since then (the station is now KUDD.) The actual WKRP calls have bounced around the east without ever finding much success. They were on an AM in Georgia at one point, and later on a small AM in southern Indiana, and now reside on an LPTV...but not the LPTV in Cincinnati that was branding itself as "WKRP" for a few years. s From bwelch1957@verizon.net Sun Aug 21 10:22:30 2011 From: bwelch1957@verizon.net (Bill Welch) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 10:22:30 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <4E511111.5080903@fybush.com> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <012401cc5da4$d628f590$827ae0b0$@ma@comcast.net> <20045.64801.66355.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA36A440@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> <001401cc5e70$46afdba0$d40f92e0$@ma@comcast.net> <4E4F4063.8080901@attorneyross.com> <4E511111.5080903@fybush.com> Message-ID: <4E5114A6.1060303@verizon.net> Former chief engineer of WGBY Dennis Dunbar had them on his LPTV in Washington DC that was associated with his Information Superstation service which is an executive branch version of what C-SPAN does.. Scott Fybush wrote: > On 8/20/2011 1:04 AM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > >> Reminds me of the story, possibly apocryphal, about a San Francisco >> radio station which wanted to be WKRP in San Francisco (back when the >> sitcom WKRP in Cincinnati" was popular). Of course, they couldn't get a >> W callsign in California, so they chose KRPN. And for their legal ID, >> they said, "This is W KRPN San Francisco." >> > > Not apocryphal, but not San Francisco, either. It was a Salt Lake City > rimshot on 107.9, licensed to Roy, Utah. In 1986, it took the callsign > "KRPN" and began identifying itself on air as "WKRP," doing its legal > ID thusly: > > "This is W KRPN Roy-Salt Lake City." > > The gimmick didn't last long. The calls changed by 1992 and have > flipped again numerous times since then (the station is now KUDD.) > > The actual WKRP calls have bounced around the east without ever > finding much success. They were on an AM in Georgia at one point, and > later on a small AM in southern Indiana, and now reside on an > LPTV...but not the LPTV in Cincinnati that was branding itself as > "WKRP" for a few years. > > s > From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Aug 21 23:10:05 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 23:10:05 -0400 Subject: HD subchannels In-Reply-To: <4E511111.5080903@fybush.com> References: <12292608.1313623138769.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <012401cc5da4$d628f590$827ae0b0$@ma@comcast.net> <20045.64801.66355.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA36A440@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> <001401cc5e70$46afdba0$d40f92e0$@ma@comcast.net> <4E4F4063.8080901@attorneyross.com> <4E511111.5080903@fybush.com> Message-ID: <4E51C88D.2020301@attorneyross.com> On 8/21/2011 10:07 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > The actual WKRP calls have bounced around the east without ever > finding much success. They were on an AM in Georgia at one point, and > later on a small AM in southern Indiana, and now reside on an > LPTV...but not the LPTV in Cincinnati that was branding itself as > "WKRP" for a few years. I'm not surprised. The WKRP TV program is a bit old and dated by now, and there's a generation out there that doesn't remember it. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Mon Aug 22 04:42:30 2011 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 01:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: <03B88CC98C4B4795B6A4AB3262ED3E15@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 8/19/11, Dan.Strassberg wrote:>Without question, WIP (AM) has the best signal of any 5 kW-U AM in the >Philadelphia market . . .???? Many of us who hang out on this newsgroup are still interested in AM radio, but the public -- more strongly the younger the people are -- just doesn't listen to AM radio, period. It doesn't matter what's on or how good the signal is. To the average person, just the fact that it's in mono makes its sound quality extremely inferior to FM.??? Looking at the Arbitron top-line numbers, it looks like only somewhere around 10-15 percent of the overall radio listening now is to AM stations -- and it's been declining just recently. On FM, someone using the scan button might stop on your station, discover it, and keep listening. AM is like the tree falling in the forest when there's no one to hear it.???? Except maybe in some fringe-rural places, the trend is extremely strong toward only a handful of heritage stations nationwide with a combination of huge signals (read, Class A stations), formats not duplicated on FM (read news, sports, talk -- an advantage now beginning to disintegrate) and long, long-time prominence in the market?still pulling any significant numbers. And?even they are beginning to simulcast on HD-1 signals or change bands altogether.????? So it's more than an issue of coverage maps. And even they, IMO, overstate most AM stations realistic listening area. Your average person is horrified if they drive past a utility ?pole with an improperly grounded electrical transformer or drive beneath a 500 kv electrical transmission line, etc.,?and hear a few seconds of nasty-sounding interference. And most of them quit?ever turning on AM radio back in another century. There's my extremely bummerish $0.02 for this morning. So, shoot me. :))???? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Aug 22 12:32:30 2011 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:32:30 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <03B88CC98C4B4795B6A4AB3262ED3E15@SatU205S5044> <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Martin Waters wrote: >>Many of us who hang out on this newsgroup are still interested in AM radio, but the public -- more strongly the younger the people are -- just doesn't listen to AM radio, period. It doesn't matter what's on or how good the signal is. To the average person, just the fact that it's in mono makes its sound quality extremely inferior to FM. Yes, the sound quality and interference found on AM is literally a turn-off to them. Before, one could generally say music stations were (mostly) on FM, while AM had news, talk, sports, ethnic, and religious, for the most part. Yes, WJIB has relaxing music and WMKI has Radio Disney for the young, teens. and 'tweens, and those are exceptions (in that case there are young people tuning to AM for that but eventually they switch to CHR music stations on FM--in fact they probably already listen), as are "True OIdies" stations. But more and more, with news, talk, and sports stations migrating to FM, the "spoken word" is finding a home on FM, too (often at the expense of a music station--recall that 96.9 was beautiful music and then smooth jazz before the switch to talk; 98.5 was a music station, etc. While powerful AM stations can reach far, especially at night, the interference can be a real hassle. I've mentioned the near-impossibility for me of hearing WRKO, WEEI, and WBZ at work. How about the times when I'm driving and high tension wires cause headache-inducing sounds on WRKO (Rt 128 nr Peabody), WXKS AM (Rt 22/128 interchange in Beverly), and so on. Then there's signals that have to power down or switch direction at sunset...Howie Carr jokes about WRKO not going far west of Kenmore Sq. after dark. A bit of an exaggeration, but true in some respects. WEEI's signal problems to the west and some other directions led to the establishment of sister stations mostly on FM (105.5, 103.7, 96.3) and in once case on AM (1440), and the necessity of putting Red Sox games on a bunch of other signals for all those times when WEEI can't come in. The bit about "formats not found on FM" is what I was saying about WJIB (relaxing), WMKI (children's), and the various ethnic and religious outlets. >>Your average person is horrified if they drive past a utility ?pole with an improperly grounded electrical transformer or drive beneath a 500 kv electrical transmission line, etc.,?and hear a few seconds of nasty-sounding interference. And most of them quit?ever turning on AM radio back in another century. As I mentioned above, this happens quite often and the proliferation of high tension wires and various gadgets and machinery, etc., doesn't help. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Aug 22 13:30:46 2011 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:30:46 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: From: "Martin Waters" >>Many of us who hang out on this newsgroup are still interested in AM >>radio, but the >> public -- more strongly the younger the people are -- just doesn't listen >> to AM radio, >>period. Can anyone name a new AM sucess story in the last 15 years? (Besides sports?) From peterwmurray@gmail.com Mon Aug 22 14:42:06 2011 From: peterwmurray@gmail.com (Peter Murray) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:42:06 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Federal News Radio in DC? Started out on AM 1050, then moved to the former WTOP (now on 103.5, displacing long-term commercial classical WGMS) AM 1500 signal. Niche audience, but they are doing well. Content is what matters to a listener (followed closely by the quality of the medium). How many more people would listen to WINS or WCBS if either of them were on FM, rather than their existing facilities? What would go on 1010 or 880 (were either of the current formats moved to FM) in place of news that would achieve the same revenue as the displaced FM programming (ignoring the theoretical uptick in revenue once the news moved to FM)? -Peter On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Don wrote: > > From: "Martin Waters" > >>> Many of us who hang out on this newsgroup are still interested in AM >>> radio, but the >>> public -- more strongly the younger the people are -- just doesn't listen >>> to AM radio, >>period. > > Can anyone name a new AM sucess story in the last 15 years? > > (Besides sports?) > > > From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Aug 22 14:48:58 2011 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:48:58 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2534669EDD7A4835992F5EE84D562F63@s20035> > Federal News Radio in DC? Started out on AM 1050, then moved to the > former WTOP (now on 103.5, displacing long-term commercial classical > WGMS) AM 1500 signal. Niche audience, but they are doing well. WFED? 0.2 or 0.3 in the ratings is doing well? From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Mon Aug 22 15:30:22 2011 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:30:22 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: <2534669EDD7A4835992F5EE84D562F63@s20035> References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <2534669EDD7A4835992F5EE84D562F63@s20035> Message-ID: If its billing well thats all that counts and Fed news Radio is such a niche audience it may have very low ratings but could be billing very well. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Don wrote: > > > Federal News Radio in DC? Started out on AM 1050, then moved to the >> former WTOP (now on 103.5, displacing long-term commercial classical >> WGMS) AM 1500 signal. Niche audience, but they are doing well. >> > > > WFED? > > 0.2 or 0.3 in the ratings is doing well? > > > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Mon Aug 22 15:49:15 2011 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:49:15 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: <05F3DFD679BF4F93B368E735FF4B9B71@s20035> References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <2534669EDD7A4835992F5EE84D562F63@s20035> <05F3DFD679BF4F93B368E735FF4B9B71@s20035> Message-ID: Radio...especially Am radio has to do what it hasta do to survive and if it finds a niche audience that works for it.. stick with it. I have no actual numbers, but Fed News Radio could have 90 percent of government employees listening to it and compared that to the 5 percent some regular FM music station might have at any given time... and they do in fact, have a large audience. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Don wrote: > > From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." > > > > If its billing well thats all that counts and Fed news Radio is such a >> niche >> audience it may have very low ratings but could be billing very well. >> > > > I guess that's the question....is billing all that counts? > > Aren't we in the business of BROADcasting? Garnering large amounts of > audience? > > "Niche audiences" is an indicator of what's happenning to AM radio....it's > turning into a band of utility stations. > > > > > > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Aug 22 15:37:14 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:37:14 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't think that one company would put all news in one language on two full-market FM signals in the New York market. The signals (or at least the full Class B FM signals) are too valuable for one company to compete against itself that way. I could see two companies with competing FM news formats in English on separate stations in New York, though. And I could believe that there might be additional all-news formats in other languages--especially Spanish. Isn't WADO (AM) already doing all news in Spanish? As for the big AMs after all news leaves for FM, one of them might flip to Spanish talk. I can imagine WINS going that route. A lot depends on what happens with music licening fees. I have heard that those are getting so high that all news, which once was considered prohibitively expensive in all but the largest markets, is now looking cheap compared to music formats, because all news doesn't require music licenses. The record companies appear to be run by total idiots, but if they come to their senses, the economics may once again favor music formats. BTW, those who think that FM is so much better than AM to listen to must be listening in very favorable locations. FM is a pain compared with AM! Even though I am a radio geek, I don't enjoy fussing with the FM antenna over and over to find a position that eliminates multipath--and I live near the top of a hill in an area where the major FM signals are much more than 70 dBu. WGBH, with the market's biggest signal, is one of the worst offenders. Due to its distance from me it does not have one of the strongest signals here. The stations downtown are, I believe, marginally less strong here than the ones in Newton/Needham, which sometimes have multipath problems. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Murray" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:42 PM Subject: Re: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 > Federal News Radio in DC? Started out on AM 1050, then moved to the > former WTOP (now on 103.5, displacing long-term commercial classical > WGMS) AM 1500 signal. Niche audience, but they are doing well. > Content > is what matters to a listener (followed closely by the quality of > the > medium). > > How many more people would listen to WINS or WCBS if either of them > were on FM, rather than their existing facilities? > What would go on 1010 or 880 (were either of the current formats > moved > to FM) in place of news that would achieve the same revenue as the > displaced FM programming (ignoring the theoretical uptick in revenue > once the news moved to FM)? > > -Peter > > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Don > wrote: >> >> From: "Martin Waters" >> >>>> Many of us who hang out on this newsgroup are still interested in >>>> AM >>>> radio, but the >>>> public -- more strongly the younger the people are -- just >>>> doesn't listen >>>> to AM radio, >>period. >> >> Can anyone name a new AM sucess story in the last 15 years? >> >> (Besides sports?) >> >> >> From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Aug 22 15:47:01 2011 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:47:01 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><2534669EDD7A4835992F5EE84D562F63@s20035> Message-ID: <05F3DFD679BF4F93B368E735FF4B9B71@s20035> From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." > If its billing well thats all that counts and Fed news Radio is such a > niche > audience it may have very low ratings but could be billing very well. I guess that's the question....is billing all that counts? Aren't we in the business of BROADcasting? Garnering large amounts of audience? "Niche audiences" is an indicator of what's happenning to AM radio....it's turning into a band of utility stations. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Aug 22 16:11:40 2011 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:11:40 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><2534669EDD7A4835992F5EE84D562F63@s20035><05F3DFD679BF4F93B368E735FF4B9B71@s20035> Message-ID: <652FC5B79755403EA4A467F1EF5BFCB4@s20035> From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." > Radio...especially Am radio has to do what it hasta do to survive and if > it > finds a niche audience that works for it.. stick with it. I suppose...but it doesn't address the fact that it is slowly becoming the band of utility stations. And what is the future? Irrelavancy? What will it be in 10 years? Weather beacons? Indian tribal language? From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 22 16:12:14 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:12:14 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: References: <03B88CC98C4B4795B6A4AB3262ED3E15@SatU205S5044> <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E52B81E.8000405@attorneyross.com> On 8/22/2011 12:32 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > As I mentioned above, this happens quite often and the proliferation > of high tension wires and various gadgets and machinery, etc., doesn't > help. Nor does the proliferation of lower-quality AM receivers. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 22 17:17:54 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:17:54 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: <652FC5B79755403EA4A467F1EF5BFCB4@s20035> References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><2534669EDD7A4835992F5EE84D562F63@s20035><05F3DFD679BF4F93B368E735FF4B9B71@s20035> <652FC5B79755403EA4A467F1EF5BFCB4@s20035> Message-ID: <4E52C782.7090005@attorneyross.com> On 8/22/2011 4:11 PM, Don wrote: > I suppose...but it doesn't address the fact that it is slowly becoming > the band of utility stations. > > And what is the future? Irrelavancy? > What will it be in 10 years? > > Weather beacons? Indian tribal language? Well, one thing that has worked on AM and probably won't move to FM is ethnic and language niches stations. The audience is too small for an FM station, but an AM station may be able to afford appealing to such audiences. Certainly all of the Spanish programming so far in Boston has been on AM, likewise the other leased-time ethnic programming, such as is now done by WUNR. As the Spanish-speaking population grows in size and purchasing power, I would expect a Spanish FM station, perhaps eventually more than one, but newer groups can have programming appear on low-budget AM stations. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From paul@derrynh.net Mon Aug 22 18:56:54 2011 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: <652FC5B79755403EA4A467F1EF5BFCB4@s20035> References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><2534669EDD7A4835992F5EE84D562F63@s20035><05F3DFD679BF4F93B368E735FF4B9B71@s20035> <652FC5B79755403EA4A467F1EF5BFCB4@s20035> Message-ID: <1230137291.656352.1314053814624.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw11.schlund.de> AM would be well suited for... ? NOAA Weather Radio "Now at 162.4 mHz AND 850 kHz" Local Traffic Reporting High School and Small College Stations that could offer a wider audience Continuous repeats of "War of the Worlds" ? -Paul H On August 22, 2011 at 4:11 PM Don wrote: > From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." > > > Radio...especially Am radio has to do what it hasta do to survive and if > > it > > finds a niche audience that works for it.. stick with it. > > > I suppose...but it doesn't address the fact that it is slowly becoming > the > band of utility stations. > > And what is the future?? Irrelavancy?? > > What will it be in 10 years? > > Weather beacons? Indian tribal language? > From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Aug 22 21:26:44 2011 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:26:44 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051.468.221603.248131@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > cheap compared to music formats, because all news doesn't require > music licenses. The record companies appear to be run by total idiots, > but if they come to their senses, the economics may once again favor > music formats. "The record companies" may well be run by total idiots, but they have no influence over the cost of music licensing for radio stations. (Well, they can lobby the Copyright Office to increase the statutory license fee for "digital broadcasting" -- streaming and satellite.) The people who set the royalty rate for broadcasters are the collecting societies: in this country, ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC. I think the big increase in license fees has been due to two changes in the industry: first, SESAC signed up a number of very popular songwriters, requiring many stations to get a SESAC license where previously they could ignore SESAC music and get everything they needed from ASCAP and BMI; second, the collecting societies moved from a (more fungible) revenue-based accounting model to an audience-based model using Arbitron ratings data. The latter is what hurt people like Bob Bittner, and is the reason WJIB no longer appears in the ratings since the introduction of the PPM in Boston. -GAWollman From paul@derrynh.net Mon Aug 22 11:57:59 2011 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:57:59 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <54E25510953E44168821AF55BCACCC6E@PaulPC> And FM will probably not make it out of the 21st century with the Smartphones and who knows what else coming down the pike.. I think I'll go listen to my 45s now and watch some static on my B&W 9" Panasonic TV with....UHF!!!! (I think the Stooges are on 38 right now....) -Paul Hopfgarten -----Original Message----- From: Martin Waters Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:42 AM To: Dan.Strassberg Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 --- On Fri, 8/19/11, Dan.Strassberg wrote:>Without question, WIP (AM) has the best signal of any 5 kW-U AM in the >Philadelphia market . . . Many of us who hang out on this newsgroup are >still interested in AM radio, but the public -- more strongly the younger >the people are -- just doesn't listen to AM radio, period. It doesn't >matter what's on or how good the signal is. To the average person, just the >fact that it's in mono makes its sound quality extremely inferior to FM. >Looking at the Arbitron top-line numbers, it looks like only somewhere >around 10-15 percent of the overall radio listening now is to AM >stations -- and it's been declining just recently. On FM, someone using the >scan button might stop on your station, discover it, and keep listening. AM >is like the tree falling in the forest when there's no one to hear it. >Except maybe in some fringe-rural places, the trend is extremely strong >toward only a handful of heritage stations nationwide with a combination of >huge signals (read, Class A stations), formats not duplicated on FM (read news, sports, talk -- an advantage now beginning to disintegrate) and long, long-time prominence in the market still pulling any significant numbers. And even they are beginning to simulcast on HD-1 signals or change bands altogether. So it's more than an issue of coverage maps. And even they, IMO, overstate most AM stations realistic listening area. Your average person is horrified if they drive past a utility pole with an improperly grounded electrical transformer or drive beneath a 500 kv electrical transmission line, etc., and hear a few seconds of nasty-sounding interference. And most of them quit ever turning on AM radio back in another century. There's my extremely bummerish $0.02 for this morning. So, shoot me. :)) From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Aug 22 21:51:56 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:51:56 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: <20051.468.221603.248131@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20051.468.221603.248131@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: Many in Chicago fear for WXRT as the White Sox want to be on FM. WJMK could be an option but CBS has been promoting them since they dropped Jack-FM. How much does CBS save by dropping music on WYSP? From brian_vita@cssinc.com Mon Aug 22 21:43:03 2011 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:43:03 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: <20051.468.221603.248131@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20051.468.221603.248131@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <000301cc6136$0366aa90$0a33ffb0$@com> Garrett, I believe you are wrong here. The killer won't be ASCAP, BMI or SESAC. It will be SoundExchange. They are already shaking down radio stations that webcast along with internet streamers on behalf of the RIAA (yes, the record companies). They are dying to get their hooks into over the air broadcasting for a bigger revenue stream. They will be the final nail in music formats. Brian Vita President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. > "The record companies" may well be run by total idiots, but they have > no influence over the cost of music licensing for radio stations. > (Well, they can lobby the Copyright Office to increase the statutory > license fee for "digital broadcasting" -- streaming and satellite.) > The people who set the royalty rate for broadcasters are the > collecting societies: in this country, ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC. > > I think the big increase in license fees has been due to two changes > in the industry: first, SESAC signed up a number of very popular > songwriters, requiring many stations to get a SESAC license where > previously they could ignore SESAC music and get everything they > needed from ASCAP and BMI; second, the collecting societies moved from > a (more fungible) revenue-based accounting model to an audience-based > model using Arbitron ratings data. The latter is what hurt people > like Bob Bittner, and is the reason WJIB no longer appears in the > ratings since the introduction of the PPM in Boston. > > -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Aug 22 22:49:41 2011 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:49:41 -0400 Subject: More sports on FM: WIP(AM) to simulcast on 94.1 In-Reply-To: <000301cc6136$0366aa90$0a33ffb0$@com> References: <1314002550.88801.YahooMailClassic@web112108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20051.468.221603.248131@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <000301cc6136$0366aa90$0a33ffb0$@com> Message-ID: <20051.5445.970055.775399@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Garrett, I believe you are wrong here. The killer won't be ASCAP, BMI or > SESAC. It will be SoundExchange. They are already shaking down radio > stations that webcast along with internet streamers on behalf of the RIAA > (yes, the record companies). The Copyright Office sets the royalty rate (under a statutory license) for "digital broadcasting". For stations like Bob's, which don't stream, this has not had any effect. The recording industry would like Congress to change the law to include "analogue broadcasting" as well, but this has yet to happen. (I believe that it should be so changed, but the current royalty rates are exhorbitantly disproportionate with the value realized by an individual broadcaster from any one particular performance, and should be reduced by a very large fraction.) The viewpoints of the broadcasting industry and the recording industry are amusingly symmetric: BROADCASTERS: Why should we pay for the privilege of giving free advertising to their product? LABELS: Why should we be forced to give away our product for free so that someone else can use it to sell an audience to advertisers? This debate is likely to go on for some time -- meanwhile, the "big three" collecting societies will continue to collect royalties on behalf of their customers: the songwriters, composers, and music publishers. -GAWollman From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Aug 24 11:48:39 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:48:39 -0400 Subject: Former WCOP sports director having a hard time with life Message-ID: The NY Times today does a long story on Dom Valentino who grew up in Boston, worked some college games but never was able to reach the top rung in Boston. He was sports director at WCOP in the 60's http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/24/sports/the-faded-voice-of-sports-calls-past.html?_r=1&ref=sports&pagewanted=all From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Aug 24 14:36:46 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:36:46 -0400 Subject: Mass Broadcasters Hall of Fame In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E5544BE.6040407@donnahalper.com> A friendly reminder that this year's annual luncheon for the Mass Broadcasters Hall of Fame will be on Thursday 9/15 at the Marriott in Quincy. Among the honorees this year are Eddie Andelman, Click & Clack, Natalie Jacobson, and the late great John Shepard III (Eunice Randall too). You should be there. More information about the event and how to get your tickets here: http://www.massbroadcastershof.org/events.htm From markwats@comcast.net Sat Aug 27 21:29:46 2011 From: markwats@comcast.net (markwats@comcast.net) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Hurricane Irene Radio & TV Coverage In-Reply-To: <364335069.563462.1314494167435.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1354257747.563761.1314494986131.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> ? It appears WBZ Radio has pre-empted Kim Komando's syndicated show tonight to provide live coverage of the impending arrival of Hurricane Irene. Earlier today when I was out and about on the North Shore I was hearing a hurricane update on WODS from WBZ New Radio 1030's Mary Blake. WNBP (1450) was airing hourly local updates and cancellations. ?Local TV finds as of 9:20PM WBZ, WCVB, WHDH & WFXT all airing network programming. I would guess they will be wall to wall coverage tomorrow. ?Scanning the radio dial, WEPN (1050 NYC) has apparently blown out it's ESPN programming to simulcast WABC-TV's continuous coverage. ?Listening on line to WLNG earlier, they were testing their backup studio at the overnight jock's house, with a T-1 connection to the transmitter, in case they have to evacuate "Broadcast House". Mark Watson From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Aug 27 22:53:12 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 22:53:12 -0400 Subject: Hurricane Irene Radio & TV Coverage In-Reply-To: <1354257747.563761.1314494986131.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1354257747.563761.1314494986131.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4E59AD98.6020102@donnahalper.com> On 8/27/2011 9:29 PM, markwats@comcast.net wrote: > > It appears WBZ Radio has pre-empted Kim Komando's syndicated show tonight to provide live coverage of the impending arrival of Hurricane Irene > WBUR was doing its regular programming (a jazz show) when I tuned it to check at 10.20 pm. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Aug 27 22:43:40 2011 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 22:43:40 -0400 Subject: Hurricane Irene Radio & TV Coverage In-Reply-To: <1354257747.563761.1314494986131.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <364335069.563462.1314494167435.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1354257747.563761.1314494986131.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I briefly turned WBZ on tonight and heard Dan Rea talking with callers about the storm. In the past, especially when they had their own news team, WRKO would do extended coverage during the storm and expanded talk after it (if it was major). Years ago after a blizzard, they put Mo Lauzier on weeknights for a few days (replacing Savage) with talk related to the storm. From bob.bosra@demattia.net Sat Aug 27 23:03:36 2011 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:03:36 -0400 Subject: Hurricane Irene Radio & TV Coverage In-Reply-To: <1354257747.563761.1314494986131.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <364335069.563462.1314494167435.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1354257747.563761.1314494986131.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I heard the WZID jock stating the station will be staffed 24/7 for storm coverage. On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:29 PM, wrote: > > > It appears WBZ Radio has pre-empted Kim Komando's syndicated show tonight > to provide live coverage of the impending arrival of Hurricane Irene. > Earlier today when I was out and about on the From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sat Aug 27 23:49:18 2011 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:49:18 -0400 Subject: Hurricane Irene Radio & TV Coverage References: <1354257747.563761.1314494986131.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <6D26673E388A49D6B55E8B0BDC105B34@Family> From: Subject: Hurricane Irene Radio & TV Coverage It appears WBZ Radio has pre-empted Kim Komando's syndicated show tonight to provide live coverage of the impending arrival of Hurricane Irene. Earlier today when I was out and about on the North Shore I was hearing a hurricane update on WODS from WBZ New Radio 1030's Mary Blake. WNBP (1450) was airing hourly local updates and cancellations. Local TV finds as of 9:20PM WBZ, WCVB, WHDH & WFXT all airing network programming. I would guess they will be wall to wall coverage tomorrow. Scanning the radio dial, WEPN (1050 NYC) has apparently blown out it's ESPN programming to simulcast WABC-TV's continuous coverage. Listening on line to WLNG earlier, they were testing their backup studio at the overnight jock's house, with a T-1 connection to the transmitter, in case they have to evacuate "Broadcast House". (snip) I drove home thru this thing from Florida starting Friday morning - hit the rain in Daytona and some good coverage from the news/talk & music statios in Orlando/Jacksonville. GA stations pretty much gave it lip-service even though the winds through Savannah were pretty intense, rockin' a heavily loaded mini-van well into SC. SC had nothing to note, nor did NC offer anything other than a random EAS severe wx alert (and not a mention of tornado watch which I heard about AFTER driving through the worst (really) rain I've ever encountered) WRVA in Richmond was wall-to-wall with coverage when I hit the road this morning. Not much on the dial even through Baltimore and DC, but within ear-shot in NJ, WCBS had moved baseball to WFAN and WINS was also wall-to-wall. Great chance for radio to shine, but few took advantage of it. Yes, WBZ was on from the CT/MA line til I rolled into the driveway here in Maine. --Chuck Igo From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Aug 27 23:42:34 2011 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:42:34 -0400 Subject: Hurricane Irene Radio & TV Coverage In-Reply-To: <1354257747.563761.1314494986131.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1354257747.563761.1314494986131.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Aug 27, 2011, at 9:29 PM, markwats@comcast.net wrote: > > > Local TV finds as of 9:20PM WBZ, WCVB, WHDH & WFXT all airing network programming. I would guess they will be wall to wall coverage tomorrow. > WMUR has announced they will have extra coverage in the morning, and they will have a noon newscast. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From rac@gabrielmass.com Sun Aug 28 00:57:00 2011 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:57:00 -0400 Subject: Hurricane Irene Radio & TV Coverage In-Reply-To: <1354257747.563761.1314494986131.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1354257747.563761.1314494986131.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4E59CA9C.10407@server4.gabrielmass.com> Numerous TV stations on the East Coast with wall-to-wall coverage of the weather are offering live video streaming. Here are a few: Washington: http://www.wjla.com/live/ http://www.wusa9.com/video/breakingvideo.aspx Baltimore: http://www.abc2news.com/generic/news/news_livestream1/Live-streaming-video Philadelphia: http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Hurricane-Irene-Barrels-Toward-Philly-Jersey-Delaware-128468208.html??? New York: http://www.myfoxny.com/subindex/video/live_video http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/livenow?id=8330259 http://www.wfsb.com/category/217730/cbs-news-livestream (from website of WFSB) So it's an opportunity to obsess along with our neighbors to the south. So far I can only find video from the major markets; perhaps some of the smaller ones will be streaming in the morning. --RC From markwats@comcast.net Sun Aug 28 08:10:40 2011 From: markwats@comcast.net (markwats@comcast.net) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Hurricane Irene Radio & TV Coverage In-Reply-To: <6D26673E388A49D6B55E8B0BDC105B34@Family> Message-ID: <192408900.568809.1314533440492.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Chuck Igo wrote: > I drove home thru this thing from Florida starting Friday morning ? Glad that you & the family made it home safe. I was listening to WINS in the car Friday night on my way home, they were wall to wall Irene coverage then. This morning WBZ radio still in full storm coverage mode, Quick scan of the AM & FM dial shows everyone else in regular format mode. Boston TV shows WBZ, WCVB, WFXT & WHDH? along with NECN on cable all in wall to wall coverage mode, except WCVB taking 45 minutes of Good Morning America which was all Irene. Chuck, how is the radio/TV coverage up your way? Mark Watson From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sun Aug 28 09:48:51 2011 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:48:51 -0400 Subject: Hurricane Irene Radio & TV Coverage References: <192408900.568809.1314533440492.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Mark (et al) - our Portland stations are in storm coverage with requisite field reporters getting wet along the shoreline. Not sure about the radio dial as I'm in the waning hours of vacay and trying to stay away for now. i have checked work email and our news crew is in storm-mode and our management has arranged for hotel rooms for staff for those who want to not risk travelling in the morning --Chuck Igo ----- Original Message ----- From: markwats@comcast.net Subject: Re: Hurricane Irene Radio & TV Coverage Chuck Igo wrote: > I drove home thru this thing from Florida starting Friday morning Glad that you & the family made it home safe. I was listening to WINS in the car Friday night on my way home, they were wall to wall Irene coverage then. This morning WBZ radio still in full storm coverage mode, Quick scan of the AM & FM dial shows everyone else in regular format mode. Boston TV shows WBZ, WCVB, WFXT & WHDH along with NECN on cable all in wall to wall coverage mode, except WCVB taking 45 minutes of Good Morning America which was all Irene. Chuck, how is the radio/TV coverage up your way? Mark Watson From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Aug 28 10:43:15 2011 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 10:43:15 -0400 Subject: wmwmonline.com not re-directing Message-ID: hi Brian--someone mentioned on FB that wmwmonline.com isn't working for them. Me neither; I'm guessing a re-direction problem of some sort. Maybe out of our hands, maybe not; I have told people to use Live 365 which did work for me. I know the link is http://www.live365.com/stations/salemstate?site=pro but I may tell people to google or yahoo "Live 365 WMWM" to get to it. I may be able to add a link to the main WMWMSalem page for the Live365 "just in case"--Bob From ecps92@earthlink.net Sun Aug 28 13:10:18 2011 From: ecps92@earthlink.net (~Bill) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:10:18 -0400 Subject: Quincy Ma Message-ID: <000001cc65a5$6a4d45c0$3ee7d140$@net> According to the Scanner [Quincy Fire] reports the a 100'+ Tower in the marsh at the Intersection of Sea and Palmer St has gone down. The old Taxi Cab Bldg had a tower, but google earth shows that now as Condo's. Could it be the WJDA Tower? Scene is safe and secured as it fell into the Marsh http://www.fybush.com/sites/2006/site-060505.html http://gallery.bostonradio.org/2006-03/boston/228-2806-sm.html Was this still in use? or had they moved the Transmitter to a newer site??? Bill Dunn N1KUG Cruise Ship Frequencies http://scanmaritime.com/ From scott@fybush.com Sun Aug 28 14:47:45 2011 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:47:45 -0400 Subject: Quincy Ma In-Reply-To: <000001cc65a5$6a4d45c0$3ee7d140$@net> References: <000001cc65a5$6a4d45c0$3ee7d140$@net> Message-ID: <4E5A8D51.6080105@fybush.com> On 8/28/2011 1:10 PM, ~Bill wrote: > According to the Scanner [Quincy Fire] reports the a 100'+ Tower in the > marsh at the Intersection of Sea and Palmer St has gone down. > > > > The old Taxi Cab Bldg had a tower, but google earth shows that now as > Condo's. > > > > Could it be the WJDA Tower? It certainly sounds like it - though the WJDA tower was considerably more than 100 feet. > Was this still in use? or had they moved the Transmitter to a newer site??? Still in use. Sister station WESX had moved to a new site and removed its old tower in Marblehead, but WJDA was still using the tower near Sea and Palmer. Anyone hearing a signal on 1300? s From scott@fybush.com Sun Aug 28 15:03:29 2011 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:03:29 -0400 Subject: Quincy Ma In-Reply-To: <04c901cc65b4$2c3a03e0$84ae0ba0$@com> References: <000001cc65a5$6a4d45c0$3ee7d140$@net> <4E5A8D51.6080105@fybush.com> <04c901cc65b4$2c3a03e0$84ae0ba0$@com> Message-ID: <4E5A9101.2050102@fybush.com> On 8/28/2011 2:56 PM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > A friend in Quincy says he can no longer see the WJDA tower out his window > like he usually does. > Any signal on 1300? Anyone? s From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Aug 28 14:56:18 2011 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:56:18 -0400 Subject: Quincy Ma In-Reply-To: <4E5A8D51.6080105@fybush.com> References: <000001cc65a5$6a4d45c0$3ee7d140$@net> <4E5A8D51.6080105@fybush.com> Message-ID: <04c901cc65b4$2c3a03e0$84ae0ba0$@com> A friend in Quincy says he can no longer see the WJDA tower out his window like he usually does. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Scott Fybush Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 2:48 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Quincy Ma On 8/28/2011 1:10 PM, ~Bill wrote: > According to the Scanner [Quincy Fire] reports the a 100'+ Tower in the > marsh at the Intersection of Sea and Palmer St has gone down. > > > > The old Taxi Cab Bldg had a tower, but google earth shows that now as > Condo's. > > > > Could it be the WJDA Tower? It certainly sounds like it - though the WJDA tower was considerably more than 100 feet. > Was this still in use? or had they moved the Transmitter to a newer site??? Still in use. Sister station WESX had moved to a new site and removed its old tower in Marblehead, but WJDA was still using the tower near Sea and Palmer. Anyone hearing a signal on 1300? s From dave@skywaves.net Sun Aug 28 14:47:57 2011 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:47:57 -0400 Subject: Quincy Ma In-Reply-To: <000001cc65a5$6a4d45c0$3ee7d140$@net> References: <000001cc65a5$6a4d45c0$3ee7d140$@net> Message-ID: Could be. The WJDA tower is actually about 200' high. Its location is about 750' southeast of that intersection. -d -Dave Doherty Skywaves Consulting LLC Millbury, MA 01527 > > According to the Scanner [Quincy Fire] reports the a 100'+ Tower in the > marsh at the Intersection of Sea and Palmer St has gone down. > > > Could it be the WJDA Tower? > > From ecps92@earthlink.net Sun Aug 28 15:05:42 2011 From: ecps92@earthlink.net (~Bill) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:05:42 -0400 Subject: Quincy Ma In-Reply-To: <4E5A8D51.6080105@fybush.com> References: <000001cc65a5$6a4d45c0$3ee7d140$@net> <4E5A8D51.6080105@fybush.com> Message-ID: <00ae01cc65b5$7c4ae1f0$74e0a5d0$@net> Just ran out to the Car, rain/wind let up for a bit, and 1300 am is all static, No signal :( In the house only had analog dial, so I couldn't tell if it was on 1300 or not. The days of my listening to WJDA went away when the Asher family sold it off and the format was no longer English Bill Dunn N1KUG Cruise Ship Frequencies http://scanmaritime.com/ -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Scott Fybush Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 2:48 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Quincy Ma On 8/28/2011 1:10 PM, ~Bill wrote: > According to the Scanner [Quincy Fire] reports the a 100'+ Tower in the > marsh at the Intersection of Sea and Palmer St has gone down. > > > > The old Taxi Cab Bldg had a tower, but google earth shows that now as > Condo's. > > > > Could it be the WJDA Tower? It certainly sounds like it - though the WJDA tower was considerably more than 100 feet. > Was this still in use? or had they moved the Transmitter to a newer site??? Still in use. Sister station WESX had moved to a new site and removed its old tower in Marblehead, but WJDA was still using the tower near Sea and Palmer. Anyone hearing a signal on 1300? s From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sun Aug 28 16:16:50 2011 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:16:50 -0500 Subject: Quincy Ma In-Reply-To: <00ae01cc65b5$7c4ae1f0$74e0a5d0$@net> References: <000001cc65a5$6a4d45c0$3ee7d140$@net> <4E5A8D51.6080105@fybush.com> <00ae01cc65b5$7c4ae1f0$74e0a5d0$@net> Message-ID: >From InsideRadio.com: Water and wind silences some stations. While much of the East Coast is saying Hurricane Irene could have been worse, rising flood waters and high winds have caused headaches for a handful of stations from Virginia to Massachusetts. Rising waters at their co-located transmitter site has taken New York Public Radio?s WNYC (820) and Salem?s religious WMCA (570) off the air. Principle Broadcasting?s Boston market ethnic WJDA, Quincy (1300) has lost its tower. On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 2:05 PM, ~Bill wrote: > Just ran out to the Car, rain/wind let up for a bit, and 1300 am is all > static, No signal :( > In the house only had analog dial, so I couldn't tell if it was on 1300 or > not. > > The days of my listening to WJDA went away when the Asher family sold it > off > and the format was no longer English > > Bill Dunn N1KUG > Cruise Ship Frequencies > http://scanmaritime.com/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf > Of > Scott Fybush > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 2:48 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: Quincy Ma > > On 8/28/2011 1:10 PM, ~Bill wrote: > > According to the Scanner [Quincy Fire] reports the a 100'+ Tower in the > > marsh at the Intersection of Sea and Palmer St has gone down. > > > > > > > > The old Taxi Cab Bldg had a tower, but google earth shows that now as > > Condo's. > > > > > > > > Could it be the WJDA Tower? > > It certainly sounds like it - though the WJDA tower was considerably > more than 100 feet. > > > Was this still in use? or had they moved the Transmitter to a newer > site??? > > Still in use. Sister station WESX had moved to a new site and removed > its old tower in Marblehead, but WJDA was still using the tower near Sea > and Palmer. > > Anyone hearing a signal on 1300? > > s > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Aug 28 17:24:15 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:24:15 -0400 Subject: Quincy Ma References: <000001cc65a5$6a4d45c0$3ee7d140$@net> <4E5A8D51.6080105@fybush.com><00ae01cc65b5$7c4ae1f0$74e0a5d0$@net> Message-ID: <1E1B6F1D78D54768BC17FFF18FA6AC74@SatU205S5044> The WMCA/WNYC site in S Kearney is one of the GREAT AM sites for soil conductivity. It abuts the former sites of the old WNEW (AM) 1130 (now WBBR) and WAAT (AM) 970 (now WNYM). Both of the other two sites moved north--WNEW to (I think) Lyndhurst--but who can keep track of the town lines in the Meadowlands?--when the S Kearney land was taken by the Jersey Turnpike maybe 50 years ago. WAAT moved to Hackensack (originally, I think, as WJRZ) when the station changed its CoL from Newark to Hackensack and increased its night power from 1 kW to 5 kW. That move enabled 970 to cover a lot more of the New York market than was possible from S Kearney because the 970 station has to protect the co-channel station in Portland ME and from S Kearney, the deep null toward Portland made nighttime coverage of northern Manhattan and the Bronx impossible. Of the three sites, the WNEW site was, with little doubt, the best for AM propagation. Over the years, these sites have been flooded out repeatedly. Around 1950, WNEW lost two brand new 50-kW AM transmitters in a flood and completely rebuilt the transmitter building as a much taller structure (maybe three stories). A decade or so later, the Jersey Turnpike Authoritiy paid for WNEW's northward relocation to the present site and the transmitter building there is at least two stories high. Gotta hand it to WMCA for keeping that site on the air with only minimal interruptions through repeated floods and to WNYC for having the guts to move to such a star-crossed location. WNYC could have moved to the WBBR site when it moved from 830 to 820. Had WNYC done that, not only would it have been the beneficiary of the WBBR site's not being as prone to flooding but it would have avoided a big mess with re-radiation from the Pulaski Skyway bridge, which abuts the WMCA site. Not only did the re-radiation problem keep WNYC from completing its move for more than a year as the engineers struggled in vain to bring the array into compliance with the CP but it resulted in WNYC being restricted to 1 kW at night. WNYC's original CP for 820 was for 5 kW at night, which is really necessary to cover the five boroughs. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Quincy Ma >From InsideRadio.com: Water and wind silences some stations. While much of the East Coast is saying Hurricane Irene could have been worse, rising flood waters and high winds have caused headaches for a handful of stations from Virginia to Massachusetts. Rising waters at their co-located transmitter site has taken New York Public Radio?s WNYC (820) and Salem?s religious WMCA (570) off the air. Principle Broadcasting?s Boston market ethnic WJDA, Quincy (1300) has lost its tower. On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 2:05 PM, ~Bill wrote: > Just ran out to the Car, rain/wind let up for a bit, and 1300 am is > all > static, No signal :( > In the house only had analog dial, so I couldn't tell if it was on > 1300 or > not. > > The days of my listening to WJDA went away when the Asher family > sold it > off > and the format was no longer English > > Bill Dunn N1KUG > Cruise Ship Frequencies > http://scanmaritime.com/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On > Behalf > Of > Scott Fybush > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 2:48 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: Quincy Ma > > On 8/28/2011 1:10 PM, ~Bill wrote: > > According to the Scanner [Quincy Fire] reports the a 100'+ Tower > > in the > > marsh at the Intersection of Sea and Palmer St has gone down. > > > > > > > > The old Taxi Cab Bldg had a tower, but google earth shows that now > > as > > Condo's. > > > > > > > > Could it be the WJDA Tower? > > It certainly sounds like it - though the WJDA tower was considerably > more than 100 feet. > > > Was this still in use? or had they moved the Transmitter to a > > newer > site??? > > Still in use. Sister station WESX had moved to a new site and > removed > its old tower in Marblehead, but WJDA was still using the tower near > Sea > and Palmer. > > Anyone hearing a signal on 1300? > > s > > From scott@fybush.com Sun Aug 28 18:02:53 2011 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:02:53 -0400 Subject: Quincy Ma In-Reply-To: <1E1B6F1D78D54768BC17FFF18FA6AC74@SatU205S5044> References: <000001cc65a5$6a4d45c0$3ee7d140$@net> <4E5A8D51.6080105@fybush.com><00ae01cc65b5$7c4ae1f0$74e0a5d0$@net> <1E1B6F1D78D54768BC17FFF18FA6AC74@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4E5ABB0D.5000403@fybush.com> On 8/28/2011 5:24 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Over the years, these sites have been flooded out repeatedly. Around > 1950, WNEW lost two brand new 50-kW AM transmitters in a flood and > completely rebuilt the transmitter building as a much taller structure > (maybe three stories). A decade or so later, the Jersey Turnpike > Authoritiy paid for WNEW's northward relocation to the present site > and the transmitter building there is at least two stories high. It is somewhat elevated, but the current WNEW/WBBR building in Carlstadt is only a one-story building, albeit with high ceilings and a very small loft area accessed by a stairwell. (The battery UPS is located up in the loft.) s From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Aug 28 20:26:15 2011 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:26:15 -0400 Subject: Hurricane Irene Radio & TV Coverage In-Reply-To: References: <192408900.568809.1314533440492.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4E5ADCA7.1080701@attorneyross.com> I noticed that all the local commercial TV chnnnels had various reporters standing outdoors in the wind and rain, sometimes holding onto their hats as they spoke, reporting on the storm. The cable news channels did the same. This is ridiculous. Why can't they be indoors by a window? Do they need to have a casualty before they stop doing this? Yesterday, on the UMass Amherst campus, I picked up WFAN on the car radio, and one of the people there was commenting on this, too. I think many standups are foolish and a waste of time, but this is particularly stupid. BTW, while driving home from Amherst yesterday I picked up a station at AM 700 which seemed to be all ESPN sports. The legal ID was so soft that I couldn't hear anything beyond the W. Anyone know what it was? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sun Aug 28 21:32:01 2011 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:32:01 -0500 Subject: Hurricane Irene Radio & TV Coverage In-Reply-To: <4E5ADCA7.1080701@attorneyross.com> References: <192408900.568809.1314533440492.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4E5ADCA7.1080701@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: A quick check would've told you that 700 running all ESPN is WTUB oOrange-Athol, MA, 2500W Non Directiona On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 7:26 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > I noticed that all the local commercial TV chnnnels had various reporters > standing outdoors in the wind and rain, sometimes holding onto their hats as > they spoke, reporting on the storm. The cable news channels did the same. > This is ridiculous. Why can't they be indoors by a window? Do they need > to have a casualty before they stop doing this? > > Yesterday, on the UMass Amherst campus, I picked up WFAN on the car radio, > and one of the people there was commenting on this, too. I think many > standups are foolish and a waste of time, but this is particularly stupid. > > BTW, while driving home from Amherst yesterday I picked up a station at AM > 700 which seemed to be all ESPN sports. The legal ID was so soft that I > couldn't hear anything beyond the W. Anyone know what it was? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From peterwmurray@gmail.com Sun Aug 28 21:35:01 2011 From: peterwmurray@gmail.com (Peter Murray) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:35:01 -0400 Subject: Hurricane Irene Radio & TV Coverage In-Reply-To: <4E5ADCA7.1080701@attorneyross.com> References: <192408900.568809.1314533440492.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4E5ADCA7.1080701@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Probably WTUB from Orange, MA. http://www.radio-locator.com/info/WTUB-AM -Peter On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:26 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote: > I noticed that all the local commercial TV chnnnels had various reporters > standing outdoors in the wind and rain, sometimes holding onto their hats as > they spoke, reporting on the storm. ?The cable news channels did the same. > ?This is ridiculous. ?Why can't they be indoors by a window? ?Do they need > to have a casualty before they stop doing this? > > Yesterday, on the UMass Amherst campus, I picked up WFAN on the car radio, > and one of the people there was commenting on this, too. ?I think many > standups are foolish and a waste of time, but this is particularly stupid. > > BTW, while driving home from Amherst yesterday I picked up a station at AM > 700 which seemed to be all ESPN sports. ?The legal ID was so soft that I > couldn't hear anything beyond the W. ?Anyone know what it was? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 ? ? ? ? ?Fax: 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 ? ? http://www.attorneyross.com > > From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Aug 30 00:01:28 2011 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:01:28 -0400 Subject: WUMB Off? Message-ID: <86B8E91F-610C-401C-B7C9-388ADFC02A3E@mac.com> I just noticed that I cannot get WUMB on 91.9, but I can get their Newburyport signal (WNEF) on 91.7. I know that the 91.9 transmitter is (or was) in Quincy, I wonder if they were using the same tower as WJDA? There is nothing about this on the WUMB website. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Aug 30 01:17:26 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 01:17:26 -0400 Subject: WUMB Off? In-Reply-To: <86B8E91F-610C-401C-B7C9-388ADFC02A3E@mac.com> References: <86B8E91F-610C-401C-B7C9-388ADFC02A3E@mac.com> Message-ID: <4E5C7266.1080501@donnahalper.com> On 8/30/2011 12:01 AM, Larry Weil wrote: > I just noticed that I cannot get WUMB on 91.9, but I can get their Newburyport signal (WNEF) on 91.7. > > I know that the 91.9 transmitter is (or was) in Quincy, I wonder if they were using the same tower as WJDA? There is nothing about this on the WUMB website. > Well, I wouldn't be surprised. I was told all the Brockton stations were knocked off the air and one is still not back on yet. I assume you can call WUMB tomorrow and ask what is going on. There weren't a lot of power outages in Quincy (although our cable was down for over a day) but a couple of neighborhoods did suffer falling tree branches and downed power lines. I am told the building that houses the Quincy Patriot-Ledger was affected by the storm, so maybe WUMB was too. From ecps92@earthlink.net Tue Aug 30 05:25:44 2011 From: ecps92@earthlink.net (~Bill) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:25:44 -0400 Subject: WUMB Off? In-Reply-To: <4E5C7266.1080501@donnahalper.com> References: <86B8E91F-610C-401C-B7C9-388ADFC02A3E@mac.com> <4E5C7266.1080501@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <095c01cc66f6$cc3a69f0$64af3dd0$@net> The Hill where UMB is, [right above my house in Quincy] still has no power as of 05:20 am [Tue] I'm surprised there is no Generator at the site Bill Dunn N1KUG Cruise Ship Frequencies http://scanmaritime.com/ -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:17 AM To: Larry Weil Cc: Boston Radio Subject: Re: WUMB Off? On 8/30/2011 12:01 AM, Larry Weil wrote: > I just noticed that I cannot get WUMB on 91.9, but I can get their Newburyport signal (WNEF) on 91.7. > > I know that the 91.9 transmitter is (or was) in Quincy, I wonder if they were using the same tower as WJDA? There is nothing about this on the WUMB website. > Well, I wouldn't be surprised. I was told all the Brockton stations were knocked off the air and one is still not back on yet. I assume you can call WUMB tomorrow and ask what is going on. There weren't a lot of power outages in Quincy (although our cable was down for over a day) but a couple of neighborhoods did suffer falling tree branches and downed power lines. I am told the building that houses the Quincy Patriot-Ledger was affected by the storm, so maybe WUMB was too. From ecps92@earthlink.net Tue Aug 30 05:43:46 2011 From: ecps92@earthlink.net (~Bill) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:43:46 -0400 Subject: WUMB Off? In-Reply-To: <86B8E91F-610C-401C-B7C9-388ADFC02A3E@mac.com> References: <86B8E91F-610C-401C-B7C9-388ADFC02A3E@mac.com> Message-ID: <095d01cc66f9$515d4a60$f417df20$@net> Not the WJDA tower, but the neighborhood around them has no power still. WUMB is located at an old Water Tank [Granite exterior] a-top the Forbes Hill in Quincy Bill Dunn N1KUG Cruise Ship Frequencies http://scanmaritime.com/ -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Weil Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:01 AM To: Boston Radio Subject: WUMB Off? I just noticed that I cannot get WUMB on 91.9, but I can get their Newburyport signal (WNEF) on 91.7. I know that the 91.9 transmitter is (or was) in Quincy, I wonder if they were using the same tower as WJDA? There is nothing about this on the WUMB website. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Aug 30 11:51:15 2011 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:51:15 -0400 Subject: WUMB Off? In-Reply-To: <86B8E91F-610C-401C-B7C9-388ADFC02A3E@mac.com> References: <86B8E91F-610C-401C-B7C9-388ADFC02A3E@mac.com> Message-ID: <8265633C-E523-4FD0-A148-CB2B1E3B6742@mac.com> They were back on the air this morning. On Aug 30, 2011, at 12:01 AM, Larry Weil wrote: > I just noticed that I cannot get WUMB on 91.9, but I can get their Newburyport signal (WNEF) on 91.7. > > I know that the 91.9 transmitter is (or was) in Quincy, I wonder if they were using the same tower as WJDA? There is nothing about this on the WUMB website. > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > > > From bob.bosra@demattia.net Tue Aug 30 11:07:22 2011 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:07:22 -0400 Subject: WUMB Off? In-Reply-To: <095d01cc66f9$515d4a60$f417df20$@net> References: <86B8E91F-610C-401C-B7C9-388ADFC02A3E@mac.com> <095d01cc66f9$515d4a60$f417df20$@net> Message-ID: >> I'm surprised there is no Generator at the site I think any kind of generator outside that particular water tank structure would be subject to vandalism. It's known by the Quincy Police as a trouble spot. The building gets tagged regularly. On site visits, finding the area around the building littered with beer cans and broken bottles is common. As for putting a generator inside: I've been inside that building and there's no room for anything in there; I'm surprised they managed to get the digital transmitter to fit! -Bob From ecps92@earthlink.net Tue Aug 30 20:14:54 2011 From: ecps92@earthlink.net (~Bill) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:14:54 -0400 Subject: WUMB Off? In-Reply-To: References: <86B8E91F-610C-401C-B7C9-388ADFC02A3E@mac.com> <095d01cc66f9$515d4a60$f417df20$@net> Message-ID: <0cf201cc6773$042dc470$0c894d50$@net> Absolutely on the Vandalism. I was thinking inside under the stairs and an exhaust out a window Not sure on power up there tonight, altho some houses are still dark. Bill Dunn N1KUG Cruise Ship Frequencies http://scanmaritime.com/ -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob DeMattia Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:07 AM To: Boston Radio Subject: Re: WUMB Off? >> I'm surprised there is no Generator at the site I think any kind of generator outside that particular water tank structure would be subject to vandalism. It's known by the Quincy Police as a trouble spot. The building gets tagged regularly. On site visits, finding the area around the building littered with beer cans and broken bottles is common. As for putting a generator inside: I've been inside that building and there's no room for anything in there; I'm surprised they managed to get the digital transmitter to fit! -Bob From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Aug 31 15:12:06 2011 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:12:06 -0400 Subject: WUMB off? Message-ID: If they're on at all it's probably with very little power. I was in Salem and Beverly today--and even if you're within a few blocks of WMWM, you can still get WUMB despite splashover--and normally it would come in. Now, nothing other than maybe a very very faint signal. (If you were to drive N on 1-A, say, into Wenham, Hamilton, Ipswich, you would prob be able to get WNEF 91.7 off and on then finally it takes over. Here of course, too close to WMWM to get WNEF 91.7, but let's just say as of now WUMB is pretty much off on 91.9... From ecps92@earthlink.net Wed Aug 31 19:32:28 2011 From: ecps92@earthlink.net (~Bill) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:32:28 -0400 Subject: WUMB off? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <116001cc6836$419861d0$c4c92570$@net> 91.9 is still O/T/A as there is still NO Power to that portion of Forbes Hill in Quincy Bill Dunn N1KUG Cruise Ship Frequencies http://scanmaritime.com/ -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:12 PM To: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: WUMB off? If they're on at all it's probably with very little power. I was in Salem and Beverly today--and even if you're within a few blocks of WMWM, you can still get WUMB despite splashover--and normally it would come in. Now, nothing other than maybe a very very faint signal. (If you were to drive N on 1-A, say, into Wenham, Hamilton, Ipswich, you would prob be able to get WNEF 91.7 off and on then finally it takes over. Here of course, too close to WMWM to get WNEF 91.7, but let's just say as of now WUMB is pretty much off on 91.9... From lglavin@mail.com Mon Aug 15 13:52:24 2011 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:52:24 +0000 Subject: WXEX - FM Message-ID: <20110815175224.76990@gmx.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: The Seacoast >Sent: 08/14/11 03:25 PM >To: Boston-Radio-Interest@Bostonradio. Org >Subject: WXEX - FM >First time hearing 1540 WXEX on the 92.1 FM side today in Wells, so I assume >the WFNX sale of the station has been finalized. > I think the 9 AM id went something like "WXEX - Exeter/WXEX-FM Sanford, >Portsmouth" or something like that. If it hasn't done so already, WXEX-AM (like the 1540 operations before it) can expect more interference from WDCD-AM in Albany, NY around sunrise and before sunset in days to come. This purchase of 92.1 was probably a goog idea, but when WNSH-AM 1570 was put on the market, it might have made sense for WXEX to buy that facility, move the transmitter to Exeter (maybe with a daytime power downgrade a little because the tower is smack dab (what's a dab; I know a little one will do ya) in a residential neighborhood, and 30K might be too much. They might also have gotten 85 watts or so pre-sunrise post-sunset authority.