From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Apr 1 00:48:15 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 00:48:15 -0400 Subject: Donna at Barnes & Noble Message-ID: <201104010527.p315R5gn090393@tsornin.bostonradio.org> For those on the south shore, I'll be speaking about my book (and signing copies) and also bringing some rare memorabilia to Barnes & Noble in Hingham on Saturday at 3 pm. Please feel free to join me! Also, I wanted to let you know that I just had the defense of my dissertation for my PhD and I passed it. I will be awarded the doctorate degree from the University of Massachusetts in mid-May. From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Apr 1 11:05:23 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:05:23 -0400 Subject: Hub ad revenue bouncing back In-Reply-To: <8CDBE06228324B4-21AC-3B24@web-mmc-m04.sysops.aol.com> References: <004801cbefe6$1e95c740$5bc155c0$@com> <8CDBE06228324B4-21AC-3B24@web-mmc-m04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: EEI is reported at about 24 million but if the Red Sox are getting 18 million in fees they could be hurting..... But EEI just gave Dave O'Brien a nice extension so who knows. http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2011/04/01/obrien_gets_extension_at_weei/?p1=Well_Sports_links On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:00 PM, wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > To tie two different threads together: isn't Jay Severin's reported salary > of nearly > one million dineros about one-sixth of WTKK's revenue? No wonder they've > been > economizing in the past few months...canning McPhee, trying to get Jimmy > Myers to > agree to a pay-to-play deal. > > > > > > > > From sid@wrko.com Fri Apr 1 09:08:00 2011 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:08:00 +0000 Subject: Donna at Barnes & Noble In-Reply-To: <201104010527.p315R5gn090393@tsornin.bostonradio.org> References: <201104010527.p315R5gn090393@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA1314A8@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> Now we have to call you Dr. Donna! Congrats! -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:48 AM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Donna at Barnes & Noble For those on the south shore, I'll be speaking about my book (and signing copies) and also bringing some rare memorabilia to Barnes & Noble in Hingham on Saturday at 3 pm. Please feel free to join me! Also, I wanted to let you know that I just had the defense of my dissertation for my PhD and I passed it. I will be awarded the doctorate degree from the University of Massachusetts in mid-May. From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Apr 1 12:50:38 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:50:38 -0400 Subject: Donna at Barnes & Noble References: <201104010527.p315R5gn090393@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: <61102483EAF04A7AA48B7F5CD9216B16@SatU205S5044> CONGRATULATIONS! How many years have you been working on the PhD? Have you received tenure yet, or is that the next challenge? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:48 AM Subject: Donna at Barnes & Noble > For those on the south shore, I'll be speaking about my book (and > signing copies) and also bringing some rare memorabilia to Barnes & > Noble in Hingham on Saturday at 3 pm. Please feel free to join me! > Also, I wanted to let you know that I just had the defense of my > dissertation for my PhD and I passed it. I will be awarded the > doctorate degree from the University of Massachusetts in mid-May. From atolz@comcast.net Fri Apr 1 13:29:34 2011 From: atolz@comcast.net (Alan Tolz) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:29:34 -0400 Subject: Donna at Barnes & Noble References: <201104010527.p315R5gn090393@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: <47C890FB62F54E0BA5AFCE8DB6E37E26@mediacenter> Congrats on your PhD, Dr. Donna! That is an extraordinary achievement. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:48 AM Subject: Donna at Barnes & Noble > For those on the south shore, I'll be speaking about my book (and > signing copies) and also bringing some rare memorabilia to Barnes & > Noble in Hingham on Saturday at 3 pm. Please feel free to join > me! Also, I wanted to let you know that I just had the defense of my > dissertation for my PhD and I passed it. I will be awarded the > doctorate degree from the University of Massachusetts in mid-May. > > From xradioguy@yahoo.com Fri Apr 1 14:03:12 2011 From: xradioguy@yahoo.com (Ari Alpert) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Severin suspended again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <473924.44088.qm@web110805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Boston Herald reports that Jay Severin suspension is due to comments about sexual relationships with interns and former employees at a company he owned. "Severin?s suspension came after he said during Monday?s show that when he owned his own company, he hired ?mostly attractive young women? and had sex with nearly all of them over two decades." http://bostonherald.com/business/media/view/2011_0401suspension_could_seal_severins_fate_at_tkk I wonder if this will be the end of his WTKK gig or does he get yet another chance to apologize and get back on air? This also makes me question what the parameters are for suspension. The article suggests that GM just wants out of the expensive contract or maybe they will use this situation to renegotiate the contract. They have not pulled his voiced spots off the air so it seems his fate is not decided yet. -Ari From dave@skywaves.net Fri Apr 1 14:55:43 2011 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 14:55:43 -0400 Subject: PhD(!) Donna at Barnes & Noble In-Reply-To: <201104010527.p315R5gn090393@tsornin.bostonradio.org> References: <201104010527.p315R5gn090393@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: That is super news, Donna. Congratulations! -d -------------------------------------------------- From: "Donna Halper" Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:48 AM To: Subject: Donna at Barnes & Noble > > For those on the south shore, I'll be speaking about my book (and > signing copies) and also bringing some rare memorabilia to Barnes & > Noble in Hingham on Saturday at 3 pm. Please feel free to join > me! Also, I wanted to let you know that I just had the defense of my > dissertation for my PhD and I passed it. I will be awarded the > doctorate degree from the University of Massachusetts in mid-May. > > > From lspin@comcast.net Fri Apr 1 15:50:35 2011 From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 15:50:35 -0400 Subject: Donna at Barnes & Noble In-Reply-To: <201104010527.p315R5gn090393@tsornin.bostonradio.org> References: <201104010527.p315R5gn090393@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: <004101cbf0a6$11e8fbf0$35baf3d0$@net> Congratulations on two great achievements, Donna! The book is fantastic! -Lou -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:48 AM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Donna at Barnes & Noble For those on the south shore, I'll be speaking about my book (and signing copies) and also bringing some rare memorabilia to Barnes & Noble in Hingham on Saturday at 3 pm. Please feel free to join me! Also, I wanted to let you know that I just had the defense of my dissertation for my PhD and I passed it. I will be awarded the doctorate degree from the University of Massachusetts in mid-May. From HeritageRadio@msn.com Sun Apr 3 00:41:11 2011 From: HeritageRadio@msn.com (Thomas Heathwood) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:41:11 -0400 Subject: A Great Achievement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great achievement Donna ! All best wishes. Tom Heathwood 4/3/11 From billohno@gmail.com Mon Apr 4 10:19:13 2011 From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 10:19:13 -0400 Subject: WDEV adds PM Drive news block Message-ID: <4D99D361.6000905@gmail.com> In a time when local radio is local by a new definition - the automation and server are actually in the same building as the sales office - WDEV is going in a different direction. They're adding a news block from 4-5:30 that mirrors their AM drive "Morning News Service" starting today. Their Facebook post says, "This afternoon at 3:33, join genial Jack for the Afternoon News Service. News, sports, entertainment and more ... beginning at 3:55pm on WDEV AM 550 and FM 96.1, 96.5 & 101.9." I find most of my radio listening is either WDEV for news and Sox, Norwich College hockey, and I listen to their classical sister WCVT at 101.7 to wind down the day and for audio to match those trips over the gaps. I still maintain that if you've never checked out (owner/operator) Ken Squire's Saturday morning legendary (9-ish to 10-ish) "Music To Go To the Dumb By" you may regret it someday - Squire's not getting any younger (although I pray he goes on for years) and I doubt the program could work without him. I've posted about that show here before. I discovered something new about the show lately and it taking me 11 years to catch this is a humbling experience - There's a live-read for Vermont Life Magazine during "The Dump Show" as it's termed by most, even the air staff. Squire is always searching for the copy on live mic, especially for the "special toll-free number" that gets WDEV listeners a deep discount. As he's working it out with the producer he invariably puts off the phone number until the producer "can find it." It finally hit me that it must be an intentional technique that draws upon the reality that most people don't write down tel numbers when listening, esp. in cars. It becomes two separate spots in the hour where later on the number is 'found' and read a number of times. He doesn't do that each week which is why it works, methinks. So, whether an intentional method or the genuine fumbling of the host (I doubt that), it works. For radio geeks like us, we don't fall for stuff too easily. Clearly, Squire's a master. And his dry humor is two-hands-on-the-wheel funny. Especially with a load of trash on the way to the dump on a Saturday morning in Vermont. Bill O'Neill From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Apr 4 11:24:43 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:24:43 -0400 Subject: Donna at the Quincy Public Library Message-ID: <201104041601.p34G1fbH054224@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Tomorrow night (Tuesday) I'm giving a talk about my new book, about Boston radio, and about the loss of local stations-- like WJDA in Quincy. It's at the Thomas Crane Library in Quincy at 7pm and everyone is welcome. From m_carney@yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:59:53 2011 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Update on NH1 Network Message-ID: <281858.28162.qm@web161301.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> http://www.theunionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Binnie+lures+execs+from+WMUR%2c+CBS+News&articleId=b5b50926-fa5b-4953-8bde-64e29bc5a485 Bill Binnie is hiring people with experience in the market. I wish him luck as turning around a TV station is not easy. A full news crew does not come cheap, especially for a station that has to start from scratch. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Apr 4 21:35:32 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 21:35:32 -0400 Subject: Donna at the Quincy Public Library, PS Message-ID: <201104050135.p351Zu6u057359@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> And my thanks to Dan Kennedy (best media critic ever) for the nice blog mention of my speaking engagement in Quincy, and the embedding of the video I did for Quincy Cable TV: http://www.dankennedy.net/2011/04/04/donna-halper-on-boston-radio-history/ From irw@well.com Wed Apr 6 12:20:10 2011 From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 12:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Severin Out Message-ID: <2710.149.164.63.143.1302106810.squirrel@webmail.well.com> Radio Ink reports this: Here is the statement just released by Greater Media "Greater Media today ended its relationship with Jay Severin. Our company has always encouraged a free and open dialogue on a variety of issues and topics, and we will continue to be guided by that principle. But we also demand that our on-air talent maintain an appropriate level of civility, and adhere to a standard that respects our listeners and the public at large." Jay Severin has been an important part of what we have accomplished with 96.9 WTKK-FM since its inception in 2000 and for that we are grateful and wish him well in future endeavors. Unfortunately, it had become clear at several points in the past two years that Jay was either unwilling or unable to maintain our standards on the air. It's for that reason we have made the decision to end our relationship. In the interim, Michael Bower will be assuming the on-air duties from 2 to 6 p.m. each day on WTKK while we review our long-term programming plans for that time slot." From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Apr 6 12:36:41 2011 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 12:36:41 -0400 Subject: WTKK Cuts Ties with Jay Severin Message-ID: <8CDC28FF19F4B86-16EC-F2C4@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> File under "Severin-ce" pay http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/89727/greater-media-cuts-ties-with-jay-severin?ref=mail_bulletin Any idea who might get the slot? Would Howie land at 96.9 come late 2012? Would Graham be a temporary remedy for pm drive? From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Apr 6 12:52:32 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:52:32 +0000 Subject: Jay Severin fired from 96.9 WTKK Message-ID: <121962436-1302108757-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1366874357-@bda262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Jay is all done at 96.9 NECN is reporting. No link yet. From billohno@gmail.com Wed Apr 6 16:55:18 2011 From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 16:55:18 -0400 Subject: Jay Severin fired from 96.9 WTKK In-Reply-To: <121962436-1302108757-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1366874357-@bda262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <121962436-1302108757-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1366874357-@bda262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <4D9CD336.3010200@gmail.com> On 4/6/2011 12:52 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Jay is all done at 96.9 > > NECN is reporting. No link yet. > Severin's remarks created an HR nightmare when he suggested he'd had carnal relationships with many of his co-workers. So, he crossed a line and lost. In the past, he would have crossed the line. As goes the culture, there is no clear truth, right or wrong, and therefore, fixed line to cross. As to his radio career, I doubt he's lost much momentum. There will be more "lines." Bill O'Neill From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Apr 6 17:00:11 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:00:11 +0000 Subject: Jay Severin fired from 96.9 WTKK In-Reply-To: <4D9CD336.3010200@gmail.com> References: <121962436-1302108757-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1366874357-@bda262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><4D9CD336.3010200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <281659436-1302123614-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1854557748-@bda262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I would think his Boston options are slim - I can't see 1200 paying him what he thinks he is worth - RKO likewise. -----Original Message----- From: "billohno@gmail.com" Sender: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.orgDate: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 16:55:18 To: Subject: Re: Jay Severin fired from 96.9 WTKK On 4/6/2011 12:52 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Jay is all done at 96.9 > > NECN is reporting. No link yet. > Severin's remarks created an HR nightmare when he suggested he'd had carnal relationships with many of his co-workers. So, he crossed a line and lost. In the past, he would have crossed the line. As goes the culture, there is no clear truth, right or wrong, and therefore, fixed line to cross. As to his radio career, I doubt he's lost much momentum. There will be more "lines." Bill O'Neill From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Apr 6 17:03:10 2011 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 17:03:10 -0400 Subject: Jay Severin fired from 96.9 WTKK In-Reply-To: <4D9CD336.3010200@gmail.com> References: <121962436-1302108757-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1366874357-@bda262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <4D9CD336.3010200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <19868.54542.534961.705023@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Severin's remarks created an HR nightmare when he suggested he'd had > carnal relationships with many of his co-workers. Just to set the story straight: with many of his *employees* at a company he used to run. "Beat the Press" covered this in detail last Friday. I wonder what the statute of limitations[1] for harrassment is in the state that this happened? -GAWollman [1] Or whatever appropriate term is when dealing with civil rather than criminal matters. From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Apr 6 16:08:39 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 20:08:39 +0000 Subject: Doctor Halper in Rock n Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland Message-ID: <2082995828-1302120520-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-262953576-@bda262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Well at least her Boston Radio book is in the gift shop :) From billohno@gmail.com Wed Apr 6 18:08:00 2011 From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 18:08:00 -0400 Subject: Jay Severin fired from 96.9 WTKK In-Reply-To: <19868.54542.534961.705023@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <121962436-1302108757-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1366874357-@bda262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <4D9CD336.3010200@gmail.com> <19868.54542.534961.705023@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4D9CE440.5020808@gmail.com> On 4/6/2011 5:03 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Just to set the story straight: with many of his *employees* at a > company he used to run. "Beat the Press" covered this in detail last > Friday. That detail only serves to add to the Severin picture of pride, arrogance and depravity. Bill O' From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 17:25:08 2011 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Felger & Massarotti reupped by Sports Hub Message-ID: <424567.8528.qm@web161311.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/news/mediaBiz/?p=1119&srvc=home&position=recent Number of years not disclosed. Watch for another annoucement coming soon from 98.5 (I'm not at liberty to talk about it just yet). From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 18:35:44 2011 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 15:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 98.5 extends Felger/Mazz Message-ID: <562941.26140.qm@web110501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/thebuzz/2011/04/new_deal_for_fe.html I haven't listened to much of Ordway/Holley, but what I have heard didn't pique my interest. From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Apr 6 19:43:34 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 19:43:34 -0400 Subject: Jay Severin fired from 96.9 WTKK In-Reply-To: <4D9CE440.5020808@gmail.com> References: <121962436-1302108757-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1366874357-@bda262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <4D9CD336.3010200@gmail.com> <19868.54542.534961.705023@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4D9CE440.5020808@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201104070021.p370LeWP063738@tsornin.bostonradio.org> At 06:08 PM 4/6/2011, billohno@gmail.com wrote: >On 4/6/2011 5:03 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: >>Just to set the story straight: with many of his *employees* at a >>company he used to run. "Beat the Press" covered this in detail last >>Friday. And assuming I don't get cancelled, Jon Keller taped a segment with me for tonight's WBZ-TV news at 11pm where we talk about Severin and other aspects of talk radio. From m_carney@yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:49:58 2011 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 18:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WEEI 590 Ad Message-ID: <198367.3817.qm@web161314.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I found this on YouTube tonight. It's a bunch of ads from WFXT in 1992. The 2nd one in is a :15 spot for WEEI on 590. I didn't think they did any television until they went to 850, but I guess I'm wrong. http://youtu.be/DMNLxDw4-4w From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 00:03:38 2011 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 21:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WEEI 590 Ad In-Reply-To: <198367.3817.qm@web161314.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <320945.3334.qm@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Sat, 4/9/11, Maureen Carney wrote: > I found this on YouTube tonight. It's > a bunch of ads from WFXT in 1992. The 2nd > one in is a :15 spot for WEEI on 590. I didn't think they > did any television > until they went to 850, but I guess I'm wrong. > > http://youtu.be/DMNLxDw4-4w I'm pretty sure at that point that the Celtics still owned 590 and Channel 25. I recall some good cross-promotion between the two during the mutual ownership -- Jimmy Myers did the Celtics' pre- and post-game shows, and he also did nights on 590, for instance. The Celtics were about 10 or 12 years ahead of their time in owning Channel 25. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Apr 10 07:05:13 2011 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:05:13 -0400 Subject: WEEI 590 Ad In-Reply-To: <320945.3334.qm@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <198367.3817.qm@web161314.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <320945.3334.qm@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yesterday I caught a New Hampshire Fisher Cats minor league baseball game up in Manchester and I noticed Dick Lutsk was doing play by play on the WGIR Fisher Cats network. I do remember he was a sports talk host on WRKO, 6-8 pm right after Jerry Williams, so this led me to wonder, was this before WEEI went all sports? (RKO also had the syndicated Pete Rose show at one point) Acc. to bostonradio.org, WEEI 590 went all sports on Labor Day of 1991, then switched to 850 in 1994. It's said that the Celtics had bought WEEI 590 in 1990; 590 was sold to Back Bay Broadcasting in '94 and WEEI moved to 850. So the Celts had 590 from '90 to '94. Maybe RKO was running Lutsk's sports show even though WEEI was all sports at the time, or maybe it was before '91...anyway, in '92, WEEI would have def. be under Celtics ownership. (WRKO and WEEI weren't sister stations yet at that point.) From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Apr 10 07:47:35 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:47:35 +0000 Subject: WEEI 590 Ad In-Reply-To: References: <198367.3817.qm@web161314.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><320945.3334.qm@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <499906245-1302436057-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-746644304-@bda262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Lutsk was also the studio host of the RKO Sox network in 1991 and did a post game call in show. When EEI went all sports they ran a syndicated show out of San Francisco (Ron Barr?) at 10 and then overnight was Tom Star's sports network out of Cambridge. That operation was run by a young Jason Wolfe. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Nelson Sender: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.orgDate: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:05:13 To: Cc: Boston Radio Group; Sean Smyth Subject: Re: WEEI 590 Ad Yesterday I caught a New Hampshire Fisher Cats minor league baseball game up in Manchester and I noticed Dick Lutsk was doing play by play on the WGIR Fisher Cats network. I do remember he was a sports talk host on WRKO, 6-8 pm right after Jerry Williams, so this led me to wonder, was this before WEEI went all sports? (RKO also had the syndicated Pete Rose show at one point) Acc. to bostonradio.org, WEEI 590 went all sports on Labor Day of 1991, then switched to 850 in 1994. It's said that the Celtics had bought WEEI 590 in 1990; 590 was sold to Back Bay Broadcasting in '94 and WEEI moved to 850. So the Celts had 590 from '90 to '94. Maybe RKO was running Lutsk's sports show even though WEEI was all sports at the time, or maybe it was before '91...anyway, in '92, WEEI would have def. be under Celtics ownership. (WRKO and WEEI weren't sister stations yet at that point.) From ssmyth@psualum.com Sun Apr 10 08:26:55 2011 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 05:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WEEI 590 Ad In-Reply-To: <499906245-1302436057-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-746644304-@bda262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <785870.40883.qm@web110508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Sun, 4/10/11, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Lutsk was also the studio host of the > RKO Sox network in 1991 and did a post game call in show. > > When EEI went all sports they ran a syndicated show out of > San Francisco (Ron Barr?) at 10 and then overnight was Tom > Star's sports network out of Cambridge. That operation was > run by a young Jason Wolfe. Indeed, Ron Barr was on at 10. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Apr 11 09:46:29 2011 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 09:46:29 -0400 Subject: WEEI 590 Ad In-Reply-To: <785870.40883.qm@web110508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <499906245-1302436057-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-746644304-@bda262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <785870.40883.qm@web110508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, I noticed a bio online of Lutsk (talking about his doing the games up in Manchester) and it mentioned he was the host for RKO sox Network. Also remember Ron Barr (Sports Byline USA--which is still running and even expanded to offer other shows on a 'network' http://www.sportsbyline1.com/ ...in fact WWZN, WSRO, and WBNW carry shows) On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > On Sun, 4/10/11, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> Lutsk was also the studio host of the >> RKO Sox network in 1991 and did a post game call in show. >> >> When EEI went all sports they ran a syndicated show out of >> San Francisco (Ron Barr?) at 10 and then overnight was Tom >> Star's sports network out of Cambridge. That operation was >> run by a young Jason Wolfe. > > Indeed, Ron Barr was on at 10. > From supersport@maine.rr.com Sun Apr 10 00:17:30 2011 From: supersport@maine.rr.com (Supersport) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 00:17:30 -0400 Subject: Scratchy 45's & Beyond Show Welcomes Donna and Her New Book Message-ID: <073B9083988C42FB822E42E8FA1F9EA1@vpr1> Saturday, Donna Halper was kind enough to join me "Supersport" on the "Scratchy 45's & Beyond" show where we discussed her book and Boston/Seacoast radio, and personalities. Prior to Donnas' call, I pushed the "Scratchy 45's" aside and went "beyond" with plenty of Boston radio air checks of the past, and a great interview and discussion of Boston Radio with one of our listeners and friends of 106.1 FM, WSCA. If you'd like a link to the file, I can send you that upon request. Donna - A Big Thank You for the great discussion, insight and fun today! John "Supersport" 106.1 FM WSCA-LP, Portsmouth, NH "Scratchy 45's & Beyond" Show Saturday's 10 AM - Noon Also streaming live at http://wscafm.org From lglavin@mail.com Mon Apr 11 13:34:45 2011 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:34:45 +0000 Subject: WAAF Apparently Transmitting From Paxton, Not WUNI-DT Tower Message-ID: <20110411173445.93860@gmx.com> There was a posting at the Radio-info.com Boston Board that WAAF-FM 107.3 has been transmitting from its "auxiliary" site in Paxton, Ma (its longtime transmitter site when licensed to Worcester rather than to Westboro, as is currently the case). My primary FM receiver has an attached indoor antenna that I can adjust for various stations when necessary. (I can diminish reception of NHPR's outlet in Nashua at 88.3 to improve my reception of WFCR-FM 88.5 transmitting from Pelham, MA). My receiver shows relative signal strength with 12 vertical bars (yes "12 steps") and ever since the move to the weaker directional antenna on the WUNI-DT tower, it seems that WAAF has been lucky to reach a '9'. This morning (Monday, 04/11) it went all the way to about '10'; its neighbor an Asnebumskit Hill, WSRS-FM 96.1, about '11'. Sometimes however, in the spring with warm, humid air and weather fronts all over the place, FM signals seem to get a boost. Some people posting to Radio-info.com from areas well west of Boston report the same reception of WAAF they got before the switch. I suspect very strongly that WAAF is in fact broadcasting from Paxton right now. From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Apr 12 11:37:39 2011 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:37:39 -0400 Subject: WAAF Apparently Transmitting From Paxton, Not WUNI-DT Tower In-Reply-To: <20110411173445.93860@gmx.com> References: <20110411173445.93860@gmx.com> Message-ID: <914B37FF-78AF-4B54-B541-794EF700A0EF@comcast.net> I was the one that posted that last Monday. Seems like they were only on Paxton for a couple hours last Monday after they apparently had trouble with lightning, and seemly lost all communication with the WUNI site. Both transmitters were on at the same time, WUNI with dead air (both analog and HD) and Paxton on with analog only audio. Paxton didn't seem to have RDS, while the dead carrier did. Since that day, they've been back with HD and RDS, so I assume it's back on WUNI. I don't have a HD receiver with me right now, but I am seeing RDS. Jeff Lehmann On Apr 11, 2011, at 1:34 PM, "Laurence Glavin" wrote: > There was a posting at the Radio-info.com Boston Board that WAAF-FM 107.3 has been transmitting > from its "auxiliary" site in Paxton, Ma (its longtime transmitter site when licensed to Worcester > rather than to Westboro, as is currently the case). My primary FM receiver has an attached indoor > antenna that I can adjust for various stations when necessary. (I can diminish reception of NHPR's > outlet in Nashua at 88.3 to improve my reception of WFCR-FM 88.5 transmitting from Pelham, MA). > My receiver shows relative signal strength with 12 vertical bars (yes "12 steps") and ever since > the move to the weaker directional antenna on the WUNI-DT tower, it seems that WAAF has been lucky > to reach a '9'. This morning (Monday, 04/11) it went all the way to about '10'; its neighbor an Asnebumskit > Hill, WSRS-FM 96.1, about '11'. Sometimes however, in the spring with warm, humid air and weather fronts > all over the place, FM signals seem to get a boost. Some people posting to Radio-info.com from areas > well west of Boston report the same reception of WAAF they got before the switch. I suspect very > strongly that WAAF is in fact broadcasting from Paxton right now. From kenwvt@gmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:37:07 2011 From: kenwvt@gmail.com (Ken VanTassell) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:37:07 -0400 Subject: Scott Fybush is on live now Message-ID: live.twit.tv talking about towers !!! From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Apr 14 10:46:41 2011 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:46:41 -0400 Subject: Company Hires Actors To Call Radio Talk Shows Message-ID: <4DA708D1.9090708@ttlc.net> I just finished reading a column (in HufPo) written by an actor in NY who was offered a job paying $40/hr to call specific radio shows and following a script to present a requested point of view. The company making the offer is Premiere Radio (a division of Clear Channel). Has anyone on this board had any experience with setups like this? From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Apr 14 10:47:27 2011 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:47:27 -0400 Subject: Company Hires Actors To Call Radio Talk Shows In-Reply-To: <4DA708D1.9090708@ttlc.net> References: <4DA708D1.9090708@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <4DA708FF.1050601@ttlc.net> The URL is: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rich-hollman/post_1940_b_848876.html On 4/14/2011 10:46 AM, Roger Kirk wrote: > I just finished reading a column (in HufPo) written by an actor in NY > who was offered a job paying $40/hr to call specific radio shows and > following a script to present a requested point of view. The company > making the offer is Premiere Radio (a division of Clear Channel). > > Has anyone on this board had any experience with setups like this? > > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Apr 14 10:53:35 2011 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 09:53:35 -0500 Subject: Company Hires Actors To Call Radio Talk Shows In-Reply-To: <4DA708D1.9090708@ttlc.net> References: <4DA708D1.9090708@ttlc.net> Message-ID: I worked at a station that carried a nationally syndicated morning show, which for a short time, originated from our studios. Occassionally I'd hear a phone call that sounded really suspect, you know.... the caller knew way too well exactly what to say. Wether it was dissing the competition or had way too good of a story, it made me wonder. A few times I happened to answer the phone to a person who introduced themselves by phone, off air as one person that was to do a "bit" with the host. Then I'd hear them on the air with a different name, pretending to be a listener. One of these "listeners" even went so far as to refer to another morning show as "a bunch of d-bags" Paul Walker On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Roger Kirk wrote: > I just finished reading a column (in HufPo) written by an actor in NY who > was offered a job paying $40/hr to call specific radio shows and following a > script to present a requested point of view. The company making the offer > is Premiere Radio (a division of Clear Channel). > > Has anyone on this board had any experience with setups like this? > > > > From bob.bosra@demattia.net Thu Apr 14 17:50:02 2011 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:50:02 -0400 Subject: Company Hires Actors To Call Radio Talk Shows In-Reply-To: References: <4DA708D1.9090708@ttlc.net> Message-ID: I read an article about this a while back. Sorry, I can't remember where, but it went something like this: In the 80s,stations started doing prank phone calls to people. A little more complex than "is your refrigerator running", but you get the idea. I remember 98.5 used to do this in the early 90's at 7:45 am. At some point they were told they couldn't do this because they were taping and retransmitting the phone conversation without prior consent. To get around this, Premiere started used paid actors to play the pranks on. So this might explain some of it. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. < walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> wrote: > I worked at a station that carried a nationally syndicated morning > show,which for a short time, originated from our studios. > > Occassionally I'd hear a phone call that sounded really suspect, you > know.... the caller knew way too well exactly what to say. Wether it was > dissing the competition or had way too good of a story, it made me wonder. > > A few times I happened to answer the phone to a person who introduced > themselves by phone, off air as one person that was to do a "bit" with the > host. Then I'd hear them on the air with a different name, pretending to be > a listener. > > One of these "listeners" even went so far as to refer to another morning > show as "a bunch of d-bags" > > Paul Walker > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Roger Kirk wrote: > > > I just finished reading a column (in HufPo) written by an actor in NY who > > was offered a job paying $40/hr to call specific radio shows and > following a > > script to present a requested point of view. The company making the > offer > > is Premiere Radio (a division of Clear Channel). > > > > Has anyone on this board had any experience with setups like this? > > > > > > > > > From ssmyth@psualum.com Fri Apr 15 08:40:07 2011 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Mike Adams joins WEEI's "Big Show" Message-ID: <423204.1459.qm@web110504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> This really smacks of a desperation move. Brief is midway down the page. http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/articles/2011/04/15/a_winning_moment_for_985/?page=2 From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Apr 16 09:27:26 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 09:27:26 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH Message-ID: The Globe ( 4-16) looks at the war between WBUR and WGBH and at first glance WGBH is winning as 90.9 is bleeding listeners. WBUR management is fuming that Boston can only support one public radio outlet and GBH stole our format. http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/04/16/wgbh_changes_sting_public_radio_rival/?p1=News_links From markwa1ion@aol.com Sat Apr 16 13:06:34 2011 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 13:06:34 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CDCA6FC49FF55F-11EC-26A09@webmail-m038.sysops.aol.com> If WBUR goes wobbly and has to downsize, it would be good if Bob Bittner could pick up 1240 in West Yarmouth for some kind of fire-sale price. The "oldsters" of Hyannis, Yarmouth, and Dennis - I think this would be over 50% of the citizenry there - would gobble up a format of standards, Broadway, big band, pre-1964 pop/rock oldies, etc. Maybe old-time radio dramas, comedy, and variety could be inserted sometimes too (as WNBP does, or did). Just a thought - and a hope. Mark Connelly Billerica, MA + South Yarmouth, MA << From: Kevin Vahey To: bri Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 09:27:26 -0400 The Globe ( 4-16) looks at the war between WBUR and WGBH and at first glance WGBH is winning as 90.9 is bleeding listeners. WBUR management is fuming that Boston can only support one public radio outlet and GBH stole our format. http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/04/16/wgbh_changes_sting_public_radio_rival/?p1=News_links >> From bob.bosra@demattia.net Sat Apr 16 20:32:29 2011 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 20:32:29 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Some how I couldn't see something like: *WRKO management is fuming that Boston can only support one talk radio* *station and WTKK stole our format.* Maybe they might think it, but saying it to a reporter?!? Sounds like the WBUR manager needs to grow up. -Bob On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The Globe ( 4-16) looks at the war between WBUR and WGBH and at first > glance > WGBH is winning as 90.9 is bleeding listeners. > > WBUR management is fuming that Boston can only support one public radio > outlet and GBH stole our format. > > > http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/04/16/wgbh_changes_sting_public_radio_rival/?p1=News_links > From paul@derrynh.net Sat Apr 16 21:46:02 2011 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 21:46:02 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: W(e're) B(itching) U(nreasonalbly about our) R(ival) -----Original Message----- From: Bob DeMattia Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 8:32 PM To: boston Radio Interest Subject: Re: WBUR lashes out at WGBH Some how I couldn't see something like: *WRKO management is fuming that Boston can only support one talk radio* *station and WTKK stole our format.* Maybe they might think it, but saying it to a reporter?!? Sounds like the WBUR manager needs to grow up. -Bob On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The Globe ( 4-16) looks at the war between WBUR and WGBH and at first > glance > WGBH is winning as 90.9 is bleeding listeners. > > WBUR management is fuming that Boston can only support one public radio > outlet and GBH stole our format. > > > http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/04/16/wgbh_changes_sting_public_radio_rival/?p1=News_links > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Apr 16 23:05:00 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:05:00 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH References: Message-ID: <2CF0F443BAAB4531BFA558CE4D9771D6@SatU205S5044> If you read the article on which this thread is allegedly based, I think you will find that WBUR's new GM (what's his name--Kravitz?) didn't say (at least, didn't say to the reporter) what the posters here are saying he said. Somebody on this list misquoted him and, from there, what should have been a non-story seems to have acquired a life of its own. Doesn't speak very well for those on this list who seem to be aching to make a mountain out of a mole-hill. Everybody: go back to the first posting in this thread, find the link to the article, follow the link, and read the article for yourself. If you go by that article, I think you will agree that we have blown the story WAY out of proportion! I can believe that, in private conversations, somebody from WBUR might have said what posters here are attributing to Kravitz, but the article doesn't say he said it to the reporter. So, based on the article, nobody on this list should be saying here what we are alleging Kravitz said. Based on the article, the fact is that the declines in WBUR's numbers are not huge; WBUR's audience is still several times (probably about three times) the size of WGBH radio's, and at its most recent fund-raiser, WBUR listeners pledged several times as much as the amounts WGBH attributes to its radio listeners (including listeners to WCRB). Only if you add contributions from viewers of WGBH's two TV stations and FIVE full-time over-the-air TV services--2-1, 44-1, 44-2, 44-3, and 44-4--does WGBH raise significantly more $$$ than WBUR does. Considering that WGBH radio and TV (including WCRB and network-TV production) have (according to the story) 850 employees, whereas WBUR (radio only) has 120, one would think that WGBH (radio and TV) would have to raise roughly seven times as much as WBUR does. And if you consider the relative size of WGBH's and WBUR's headquarters, a factor of seven in favor of WGBH might not come close to doing it. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob DeMattia" To: "boston Radio Interest" Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 8:32 PM Subject: Re: WBUR lashes out at WGBH > Some how I couldn't see something like: > > *WRKO management is fuming that Boston can only support one talk > radio* > *station and WTKK stole our format.* > > Maybe they might think it, but saying it to a reporter?!? > Sounds like the WBUR manager needs to grow up. > > -Bob > > > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Kevin Vahey > wrote: > >> The Globe ( 4-16) looks at the war between WBUR and WGBH and at >> first >> glance >> WGBH is winning as 90.9 is bleeding listeners. >> >> WBUR management is fuming that Boston can only support one public >> radio >> outlet and GBH stole our format. >> >> >> http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/04/16/wgbh_changes_sting_public_radio_rival/?p1=News_links >> From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Apr 16 23:03:08 2011 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:03:08 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 8:32 PM -0400 4/16/11, Bob DeMattia wrote: >Some how I couldn't see something like: > >*WRKO management is fuming that Boston can only support one talk radio* >*station and WTKK stole our format.* I don't think that's a fair comparison. Commercial radio is competitive by nature, but public radio is supposed to be about providing unique programming to the listener, not about which station gets the best ratings. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Sat Apr 16 23:25:38 2011 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 20:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <304615.17893.qm@web110514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Sat, 4/16/11, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The Globe ( 4-16) looks at the war > between WBUR and WGBH and at first glance > WGBH is winning as 90.9 is bleeding listeners. > > WBUR management is fuming that Boston can only support one > public radio > outlet and GBH stole our format. > > http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/04/16/wgbh_changes_sting_public_radio_rival/?p1=News_links > Is there some unwritten rule in the non-comm world that you're not supposed to compete with each other? I've never heard of such and even if there is, it makes no sense for WBUR officials to whine about it. Where WBUR folks may have a gripe is with NPR. I'm surprised that at this stage in its development, NPR isn't more selective with whom it shares programming. It somewhat dilutes the brand when All Things Considered, for instance, can be heard on three stations in the market simultaneously. Shouldn't NPR be protecting its long-standing affiliates to some degree? From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Apr 16 23:27:47 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 03:27:47 +0000 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1966443024-1303010868-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-721774635-@bda262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Somehow overlooked in this is WGBH also took over WCRB and while that is a separate entity - GBH reinvented the wheel. Classical was saved in Boston (perhaps not to the liking of some used to 102.5) where in many markets it has vanished. WBUR is secure - it has for decades not been a college station but a station owned by a college. WERS has always been a student project, WHRB is well Harvard :) WMBR is only now embracing MIT, WZBC does their thing. I think WHRB is safe now - in the Larry Summer era is was looked at as an unperforming asset - but again that is Harvard. WBUR more than anything was the vision of John Silber. -----Original Message----- From: "Paul Hopfgarten" Sender: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.orgDate: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 21:46:02 To: Bob DeMattia; boston Radio Interest Reply-To: Paul Hopfgarten Subject: Re: WBUR lashes out at WGBH W(e're) B(itching) U(nreasonalbly about our) R(ival) -----Original Message----- From: Bob DeMattia Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 8:32 PM To: boston Radio Interest Subject: Re: WBUR lashes out at WGBH Some how I couldn't see something like: *WRKO management is fuming that Boston can only support one talk radio* *station and WTKK stole our format.* Maybe they might think it, but saying it to a reporter?!? Sounds like the WBUR manager needs to grow up. -Bob On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The Globe ( 4-16) looks at the war between WBUR and WGBH and at first > glance > WGBH is winning as 90.9 is bleeding listeners. > > WBUR management is fuming that Boston can only support one public radio > outlet and GBH stole our format. > > > http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/04/16/wgbh_changes_sting_public_radio_rival/?p1=News_links > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Apr 17 00:22:57 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 00:22:57 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: <2CF0F443BAAB4531BFA558CE4D9771D6@SatU205S5044> References: <2CF0F443BAAB4531BFA558CE4D9771D6@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <201104170501.p3H51e1J076593@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> At 11:05 PM 4/16/2011, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >If you read the article on which this thread is allegedly based, I >think you will find that WBUR's new GM (what's his name--Kravitz?) >didn't say (at least, didn't say to the reporter) what the posters >here are saying he said. Somebody on this list misquoted him and, from >there, what should have been a non-story seems to have acquired a life >of its own. Actually, yes he did say it, and I was present when he said it. He spoke at a panel discussion at the National Conference on Media Reform last Friday in Boston, regarding the state of Boston media. He was on a panel with various representatives of Boston stations, including Callie Crossley of WGBH, and it was to her that he addressed the remarks, which I found rather surprising, to be honest with you. And I assume he has said them at other times as well, since Johnny Diaz of the Globe seemed familiar with the comments. From bob.bosra@demattia.net Sun Apr 17 00:08:23 2011 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 00:08:23 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: <2CF0F443BAAB4531BFA558CE4D9771D6@SatU205S5044> References: <2CF0F443BAAB4531BFA558CE4D9771D6@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > > If you read the article on which this thread is allegedly based, I > think you will find that WBUR's new GM (what's his name--Kravitz?) > didn't say (at least, didn't say to the reporter) what the posters > here are saying he said I DID read the article: *?This marketplace did not need to have two public radio stations with the same format,?? said Charles J. Kravetz, WBUR?s new general manager. Angry at facing competition that?s more common to commercial radio, Kravetz accused WGBH of copying his station. * So while the original post paraphrased the article, I don't think it distorted the meaning of what he said. As for competition in public radio, I certainly hope that stations will compete, otherwise, what will make them get any better? Don't like that someone copied your format? Losing listeners because of it (arguable)? Then do some innovation and win them back, rather than whine about it. -Bob From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Apr 17 02:02:17 2011 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 02:02:17 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: <304615.17893.qm@web110514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <304615.17893.qm@web110514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 8:25 PM -0700 4/16/11, Sean Smyth wrote: >I'm surprised that at this stage in its development, NPR isn't more >selective with whom it shares programming. It somewhat dilutes the >brand when All Things Considered, for instance, can be heard on >three stations in the market simultaneously. Which is the third station? While WUMB is an NPR affiliate, they do not carry ATC, or for that matter any of the NPR news programming. While NHPR can be heard in parts of northeast MA, I would not consider it a Boston market station. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Apr 17 05:36:09 2011 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 05:36:09 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH Message-ID: But the article made clear that WBUR-FM's audience is still several times as large as WGBH-FM's--even, I believe, if you add WCRB to WGBH-FM's numbers. The only way that I think you could prove the opposite (and this was NOT in the article) would be to add the viewers of Channel 2 and 44 to WGBH's FM totals. The Globe article also mentioned that WBUR's recent fund-raiser took in $1.25 million, which, I believe, was WBUR's largest total for any single fund-raiser in its history. So the Globe article could not (and in my opinion, does not) support the assertion that WGBH-FM's format flip has materially harmed WBUR or WBUR's franchise. My gripe with the original post in this thread is that it led with the idea that, because of the format flip, WGBH-FM's sudience has overtaken WBUR's and WBUR is crying foul. I still maintain that, at no point, did the Globe article say, or even suggest, that WGBH-FM's audience is now larger than WBUR's. In fact, I think the Globe story took great pains to leave the impression that, notwithstanding WGBH-FMs audience gains since the flip, some of which, I admit, did come at WBUR's expense, WBUR had not been materially harmed. I took the original post in this thread to mean exactly the opposite. I suppose that could just be my problem, but I don't think so. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; "Bob DeMattia" ; "boston Radio Interest" Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 12:22 AM Subject: Re: WBUR lashes out at WGBH > At 11:05 PM 4/16/2011, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >>If you read the article on which this thread is allegedly based, I >>think you will find that WBUR's new GM (what's his name--Kravitz?) >>didn't say (at least, didn't say to the reporter) what the posters >>here are saying he said. Somebody on this list misquoted him and, >>from >>there, what should have been a non-story seems to have acquired a >>life >>of its own. > > Actually, yes he did say it, and I was present when he said it. He > spoke at a panel discussion at the National Conference on Media > Reform last Friday in Boston, regarding the state of Boston media. > He was on a panel with various representatives of Boston stations, > including Callie Crossley of WGBH, and it was to her that he > addressed the remarks, which I found rather surprising, to be honest > with you. And I assume he has said them at other times as well, > since Johnny Diaz of the Globe seemed familiar with the comments. > From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Sun Apr 17 05:44:28 2011 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 02:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <952837.1872.qm@web110505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Sun, 4/17/11, Larry Weil wrote: > Which is the third station?? While WUMB is an NPR > affiliate, they do not carry ATC, or for that matter any of > the NPR news programming. While NHPR can be heard in parts > of northeast MA, I would not consider it a Boston market > station. I stand corrected. When did ATC stop airing on WUMB? From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Apr 17 13:28:39 2011 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 13:28:39 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: <952837.1872.qm@web110505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <952837.1872.qm@web110505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 2:44 AM -0700 4/17/11, Sean Smyth wrote: >On Sun, 4/17/11, Larry Weil wrote: > Which is the >third station? While WUMB is an NPR > affiliate, they do not carry >ATC, or for that matter any of > the NPR news programming. While >NHPR can be heard in parts > of northeast MA, I would not consider >it a Boston market > station. I stand corrected. When did ATC stop >airing on WUMB? AFAIK, it never did. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Sun Apr 17 13:38:14 2011 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH Message-ID: <68300.68097.qm@web112120.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 4/16/11, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > If you read the article on which this thread is allegedly based, I >think you will find that WBUR's new GM (what's his name--Kravitz?) >didn't say (at least, didn't say to the reporter) what the posters >here are saying he said. ? ? Whatever the WBUR manager said, precisely, the fact is that saying "WGBH stole our format" is about as controversial as declaring that the sky is blue. But, another question is, Is the WBUR manager taking the best approach? IMO, he should take his free media opportunities to talk positively about WBUR -- decades of commitment, vast experience, etc. Criticize your competitor indirectly by talking up your product -- especially when it's a good one. Work with your strength. It's just PR 101. ? ? Instead, he sounds somewhat desperate -- which is not the real situation. It remains to be seen if WGBH keeps making gains -- or plateaus sooner rather than later. The numbers the Globe gives show that WBUR's weekly cume is 80 percent higher than WGBH's. The top-line Arbitron numbers, with holiday, January and February averaged together, give WBUR a 3.6 share and WGBH, a 1.5. Anyway, as the Globe article notes, without other research, there's no way to tell how many individual listeners have switched from one station to the other. Meanwhile, FWIW, the two stations' combined cume was down by 3 percent in January from a year earlier. ? ?????? From gallen2@nescaum.org Mon Apr 18 21:03:52 2011 From: gallen2@nescaum.org (George Allen) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:03:52 -0400 Subject: BSO Transcription Trust - archival plans? Message-ID: <27c93d70-e1dc-40d0-8c3c-2b025a87521d@MERCURY.nescaum.org> Does anyone know if there are any plans to digitally archive some/all of the BSO Transcription Trust taped performances that were made from 1957 through 1991: http://www.koussevitzky.com/Html/BSTT_Index.html [a site run by Kevin Mostyn, the CE of WCRB for many years in the late 60s and 70s, and a rabid Koussy fan] There's a lot of local musical and radio history here. I've always wondered why the BSO no longer makes them available, like they did in the 70's with the WCRB musical marathon. They're probably rotting in storage - someone needs to fund a project to preserve them!!!! George From gary@garysicecream.com Tue Apr 19 11:34:20 2011 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 11:34:20 -0400 Subject: Boston TV live with gunman in Burl Mall Message-ID: <04b201cbfea7$40f4a700$c2ddf500$@com> Boston TV 4,5 & 7 (maybe more) are live with coverage of the alleged gunman at the Burlington (Mass) Mall. From rac@gabrielmass.com Tue Apr 19 11:18:36 2011 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 11:18:36 -0400 Subject: Charles Adler back on TV Message-ID: <4DADA7CC.30205@server4.gabrielmass.com> The new Sun News Channel launched on cable in Canada Monday, with news in the day and opinion shows at night, and taking a Fox-like populist tone. Their prime-time 8 pm show brings Charles Adler, who once presented a TV talk show in Boston, back to the net. For his first show opener, he even showed off the Emmy he won for "Adler On Line" (Channel 7, I think): http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/909883673001 --RC From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 12:36:02 2011 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Charles Adler back on TV In-Reply-To: <4DADA7CC.30205@server4.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <261692.69323.qm@web110514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Tue, 4/19/11, Richard Chonak wrote: > The new Sun News Channel launched on > cable in Canada Monday, with news in the day and opinion > shows at night, and taking a Fox-like populist tone. > > Their prime-time 8 pm show brings Charles Adler, who once > presented a TV talk show in Boston, back to the net. > > For his first show opener, he even showed off the Emmy he > won for "Adler On Line" (Channel 7, I think): > http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/909883673001 His show was on WABU, no? From irw@well.com Tue Apr 19 12:29:18 2011 From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Boston TV live with gunman in Burl Mall In-Reply-To: <04b201cbfea7$40f4a700$c2ddf500$@com> References: <04b201cbfea7$40f4a700$c2ddf500$@com> Message-ID: <4294.149.164.63.143.1303230558.squirrel@webmail.well.com> Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > Boston TV 4,5 & 7 (maybe more) are live Boston.com reports: "A SWAT team was called to the Burlington Mall after reports of a man with a rifle, but it turns out the "gunman" was just carrying an umbrella, State Police say." - Blaine From billohno@gmail.com Tue Apr 19 13:48:04 2011 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill (billohno@gmail.com)) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:48:04 -0400 Subject: Boston TV live with gunman in Burl Mall In-Reply-To: <4294.149.164.63.143.1303230558.squirrel@webmail.well.com> References: <04b201cbfea7$40f4a700$c2ddf500$@com> <4294.149.164.63.143.1303230558.squirrel@webmail.well.com> Message-ID: <4DADCAD4.4060707@gmail.com> On 4/19/2011 12:29 PM, Blaine Thompson wrote: > Boston.com reports: "A SWAT team was called to the Burlington Mall after > reports of a man with a rifle, but it turns out the "gunman" was just > carrying an umbrella, State Police say." > > - Blaine > Mary Poppins is on Fox News with an historical view.... Bill O'Neill From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Apr 19 12:57:40 2011 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:57:40 -0400 Subject: Boston TV live with gunman in Burl Mall In-Reply-To: <04b201cbfea7$40f4a700$c2ddf500$@com> References: <04b201cbfea7$40f4a700$c2ddf500$@com> Message-ID: At 11:34 AM -0400 4/19/11, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: >Boston TV 4,5 & 7 (maybe more) are live with coverage of the alleged gunman >at the Burlington (Mass) Mall. It was an umbrella, not a gun! But why am I not surprised at all this coverage? -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From kenwvt@gmail.com Tue Apr 19 12:25:55 2011 From: kenwvt@gmail.com (Ken VanTassell) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:25:55 -0400 Subject: Boston TV live with gunman in Burl Mall In-Reply-To: <04b201cbfea7$40f4a700$c2ddf500$@com> References: <04b201cbfea7$40f4a700$c2ddf500$@com> Message-ID: Now it's just an umbrella !!! LOL !! On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > Boston TV 4,5 & 7 (maybe more) are live with coverage of the alleged gunman > at the Burlington (Mass) Mall. > > > From rac@gabrielmass.com Tue Apr 19 16:09:28 2011 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:09:28 -0400 Subject: Charles Adler back on TV In-Reply-To: <261692.69323.qm@web110514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <261692.69323.qm@web110514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DADEBF8.5050206@server4.gabrielmass.com> On 04/19/2011 12:36 PM, Sean Smyth wrote: > On Tue, 4/19/11, Richard Chonak wrote: >> Their prime-time 8 pm show brings Charles Adler, who once >> presented a TV talk show in Boston, back to the net. >> >> For his first show opener, he even showed off the Emmy he >> won for "Adler On Line" (Channel 7, I think): >> http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/909883673001 > His show was on WABU, no? That does sound right. --RC From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 15:28:30 2011 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Boston TV live with gunman in Burl Mall In-Reply-To: <4DADCAD4.4060707@gmail.com> Message-ID: <186942.60756.qm@web112107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > On 4/19/2011 12:29 PM, Blaine Thompson wrote: > > Boston.com reports: . . . but it turns out the > "gunman" was just > > carrying an umbrella, State Police say." Mark the date: Great moments in journalism. :)) Meanwhile . . . something important was happening somewhere that they failed to cover. As usual. And . . . at the State House, some legislator is introducing a bill to outlaw traditional, full-sized umbrellas. From rac@gabrielmass.com Tue Apr 19 18:52:54 2011 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:52:54 -0400 Subject: Charles Adler back on TV In-Reply-To: References: <261692.69323.qm@web110514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4DADEBF8.5050206@server4.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <4DAE1246.3000703@server4.gabrielmass.com> The video link I posted isn't working at the moment; here's a better one: http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/search/all/an-election-about-nothing/909883673001 From paul@derrynh.net Tue Apr 19 18:27:49 2011 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:27:49 -0400 Subject: Charles Adler back on TV In-Reply-To: <4DADEBF8.5050206@server4.gabrielmass.com> References: <261692.69323.qm@web110514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4DADEBF8.5050206@server4.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: Yes, it was WABU-68 I was a regular watcher.....I believe part of the time the WABU-68 TV audio was simulcast on WRKO.. (I guess you should include WNBU-21 Concord NH and WZBU-58 Marthas Vinyard as well) -Paul Hopfgarten Concord NH -----Original Message----- From: Richard Chonak Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:09 PM To: Boston Radio Interest Board Subject: Re: Charles Adler back on TV On 04/19/2011 12:36 PM, Sean Smyth wrote: > On Tue, 4/19/11, Richard Chonak wrote: >> Their prime-time 8 pm show brings Charles Adler, who once >> presented a TV talk show in Boston, back to the net. >> >> For his first show opener, he even showed off the Emmy he >> won for "Adler On Line" (Channel 7, I think): >> http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/909883673001 > His show was on WABU, no? That does sound right. --RC From billohno@gmail.com Tue Apr 19 22:26:30 2011 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill (billohno@gmail.com)) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 22:26:30 -0400 Subject: Boston TV live with gunman in Burl Mall In-Reply-To: <186942.60756.qm@web112107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <186942.60756.qm@web112107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DAE4456.2070909@gmail.com> On 4/19/2011 3:28 PM, Martin Waters wrote: > > And . . . at the State House, some legislator is introducing a bill to outlaw traditional, full-sized umbrellas. Prescient, that. Bill O'Neill From mward@iname.com Tue Apr 19 22:50:56 2011 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 22:50:56 -0400 Subject: Boston TV live with gunman in Burl Mall In-Reply-To: References: <04b201cbfea7$40f4a700$c2ddf500$@com> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Larry Weil wrote: > It was an umbrella, not a gun! ?But why am I not surprised at all this > coverage? The exact same thing happened a few weeks ago in my old home market of Roanoke VA, right down to the saturation media coverage (on a smaller market level0: http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/280149 http://www.roanoke.com/columnists/casey/wb/280243 From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Apr 20 23:43:06 2011 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:43:06 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: <68300.68097.qm@web112120.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <68300.68097.qm@web112120.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19887.42954.312764.265774@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > averaged together, give WBUR a 3.6 share and WGBH, a 1.5. Anyway, as > the Globe article notes, without other research, there's no way to > tell how many individual listeners have switched from one station to > the other. It's hard to imagine why many listeners would switch, since when WGBH revised its format, WBUR immediately changed its schedule to ensure that the shows they had in common would air at the same time. Within the Boston metro, the two signals are roughly equivalent (both are about equally bad where where I live, in the shadow of the Natick hills). So to the extent that WGBH has taken any audience from WBUR, it must have been as a result of the unique programming that WGBH added since the format flip. (And we should recall that 'GBH's requirements for the new format were quite minimal: all they wanted was a listener base that wasn't dropping out of the market due to death and/or emigration to the Sun Belt.) That said, there is a strong feeling in some quarters that for publicly-supported institutions to be in competition with each other is wasteful[1]: the public would benefit more if each institution did something that did not compete with anyone else. (If I want to support the programs that are uniquely on each of WGBH and WBUR, I can't do that without paying for ME and ATC, which I don't listen to at all, twice!) -GAWollman [1] It of course being part of the civic religion of our parents and/or grandparents that any waste was sinful. From marklaurence@mac.com Thu Apr 21 12:53:10 2011 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:53:10 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: <19887.42954.312764.265774@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <68300.68097.qm@web112120.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <19887.42954.312764.265774@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <45A1079F-C6DD-488F-AAF7-8585782D5A68@mac.com> On Apr 20, 2011, at 11:43 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > It's hard to imagine why many listeners would switch, since when WGBH > revised its format, WBUR immediately changed its schedule to ensure > that the shows they had in common would air at the same time. There are only 4 hours of "simulcasting," albeit the most important hours of the day. The number one reason people would switch is that one station is conducting a pledge drive and the other isn't. Probably the number two reason is the appeal of surrounding shows: the local focus of WGBH from noon to 2, or fans of "The World" before ATC. Or for WBUR fans, the well-produced local shows with national distribution from 10 to 1, and "Radio Boston" leading into ATC. From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Apr 21 14:04:22 2011 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:04:22 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: <45A1079F-C6DD-488F-AAF7-8585782D5A68@mac.com> References: <68300.68097.qm@web112120.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <19887.42954.312764.265774@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <45A1079F-C6DD-488F-AAF7-8585782D5A68@mac.com> Message-ID: <19888.29094.502811.244566@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > On Apr 20, 2011, at 11:43 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> It's hard to imagine why many listeners would switch, since when WGBH >> revised its format, WBUR immediately changed its schedule to ensure >> that the shows they had in common would air at the same time. > There are only 4 hours of "simulcasting," albeit the most important > hours of the day. On which day? I only listen on weekends, and I remember when WBUR added an extra early airing of "Wait, Wait" to counterprogram WGBH. -GAWollman From marklaurence@mac.com Thu Apr 21 16:19:10 2011 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:19:10 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: <19888.29094.502811.244566@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <68300.68097.qm@web112120.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <19887.42954.312764.265774@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <45A1079F-C6DD-488F-AAF7-8585782D5A68@mac.com> <19888.29094.502811.244566@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <7B8B1ED9-233D-4685-BAF2-69F7FB324EE5@mac.com> On Apr 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> There are only 4 hours of "simulcasting," albeit the most important >> hours of the day. > > On which day? I only listen on weekends, and I remember when WBUR > added an extra early airing of "Wait, Wait" to counterprogram WGBH. I was talking about Monday through Friday schedules when they both air "Morning Edition" between 7 and 9, and "All Things Considered" between 4 and 6 PM. But on Saturday there are also just 4 hours of "simulcasting," between 8 and 11AM (including "Wait Wait") and "This American Life" at noon. On Sunday it's only 2 hours: "Weekend Edition" between 8 and 10 AM. The "Morning Edition" and "All Things Considered" simulcasts have been going on long before 'GBH made all of the recent changes. From scott@fybush.com Thu Apr 21 19:33:21 2011 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:33:21 -0400 Subject: WBUR lashes out at WGBH In-Reply-To: <7B8B1ED9-233D-4685-BAF2-69F7FB324EE5@mac.com> References: <68300.68097.qm@web112120.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <19887.42954.312764.265774@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <45A1079F-C6DD-488F-AAF7-8585782D5A68@mac.com> <19888.29094.502811.244566@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <7B8B1ED9-233D-4685-BAF2-69F7FB324EE5@mac.com> Message-ID: <4DB0BEC1.5040102@fybush.com> Mark Laurence wrote: >>> There are only 4 hours of "simulcasting," albeit the most >>> important hours of the day. >> On which day? I only listen on weekends, and I remember when WBUR >> added an extra early airing of "Wait, Wait" to counterprogram WGBH. >> > > I was talking about Monday through Friday schedules when they both > air "Morning Edition" between 7 and 9, and "All Things Considered" > between 4 and 6 PM. And speaking as someone who does the local hosting of ME and ATC from time to time, may I say that even "simulcasting" isn't always really simulcasting? Morning Edition's clock, in particular, is designed to allow stations to replace large chunks of network content with local content, and I'm pretty sure WBUR does so to a huge extent. I wouldn't be at all surprised if a minute-by-minute analysis of ME on WBUR and WGBH found only 35 minutes or so (possibly even less) of each hour to be identical from station to station. ATC has a little less flexibility at the local level, but even there I'd be surprised if more than 45 minutes out of each hour is actually simulcast. The weekend shows are another story - "Wait, Wait" is the same 56 minutes of radio no matter where it's airing. s From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Apr 21 23:48:03 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 23:48:03 -0400 Subject: Donna on the Jordan Rich show Message-ID: <201104220426.p3M4Qhs7015617@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Unless things suddenly change, I believe I will be on Jordan Rich's program on WBZ radio on Saturday night/Sunday morning at midnight to talk Boston radio history. From theseacoast@maine.rr.com Thu Apr 28 20:18:24 2011 From: theseacoast@maine.rr.com (The Seacoast) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:18:24 -0400 Subject: Donna on WBZ Message-ID: Can someone send me a link or audio file of Donna Halper on Jordan's show this past weekend? I would really appreciate it. John "Supersport" From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Apr 28 21:59:53 2011 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:59:53 +0000 Subject: Donna on WBZ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1066536019-1304042397-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1878614353-@bda262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Jordan says he will try to put it online by next week -----Original Message----- From: "The Seacoast" Sender: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.orgDate: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:18:24 To: Boston-Radio-Interest@Bostonradio. Org Reply-To: supersport@scratchy45s.com Subject: Donna on WBZ Can someone send me a link or audio file of Donna Halper on Jordan's show this past weekend? I would really appreciate it. John "Supersport" From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Thu Apr 28 22:16:20 2011 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:16:20 -0400 Subject: Donna on WBZ References: Message-ID: While we're on this subject, does anyone know if CBS or the spin-off company Westinghouse Electric (the "new" Westinghouse) has any plans for WBZ's 90th anniversary this September? They had a big celebration for KDKA last year. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Seacoast" To: "Boston-Radio-Interest@Bostonradio. Org" Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:18 PM Subject: Donna on WBZ > Can someone send me a link or audio file of Donna Halper on Jordan's show > this past weekend? I would really appreciate it. > > > > John "Supersport" > > > From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Apr 28 23:50:19 2011 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:50:19 -0400 Subject: Donna on WBZ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19898.13691.805568.195598@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > While we're on this subject, does anyone know if CBS or the spin-off company > Westinghouse Electric (the "new" Westinghouse) has any plans for WBZ's 90th > anniversary this September? They had a big celebration for KDKA last year. The principal "new" Westinghouse -- which is essentially a nuclear reactor maker -- is a subsidiary of Toshiba; I'd be be surprised if they either knew or cared about WBZ. The other "new" Westinghouse is a paper tiger that exists solely to gain favorable tax treatment for CBS's trademark licensing deals using the Westinghouse name; it was founded in 1998 and has no operations. This is a tax dodge now used by many companies engaged in out-licensing, because Delaware does not tax income attributable to licensing. (The other part of the tax dodge, not in evidence here, is that the company assigns its trademarks to the subsidiary and licenses them back at exorbitant rates; most states allow this to be recorded as an expense, thereby reducing taxes in the states where the company actually has taxable income. Many states are moving to close this loophole.) So I think it's CBS or nobody. -GAWollman From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Apr 29 00:46:19 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 00:46:19 -0400 Subject: Donna on WBZ In-Reply-To: <19898.13691.805568.195598@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <19898.13691.805568.195598@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4DBA429B.9090104@donnahalper.com> On 4/28/2011 11:50 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > >> While we're on this subject, does anyone know if CBS or the spin-off company >> Westinghouse Electric (the "new" Westinghouse) has any plans for WBZ's 90th >> anniversary this September? They had a big celebration for KDKA last year. > I will ask Peter Casey-- I am sure they will mark it in some way, but I agree... it probably won't be a huge event like the Royal Wedding! From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Apr 29 01:51:27 2011 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:51:27 -0400 Subject: What is it with this royal wedding nonsense? In-Reply-To: <4DBA429B.9090104@donnahalper.com> References: <19898.13691.805568.195598@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4DBA429B.9090104@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <19898.20959.95989.423995@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > agree... it probably won't be a huge event like the Royal Wedding! What is it with that? We got rid of that lot 235 years ago; why is our media so fascinated by a marriage in the Mountbatten-Windsor family? Would they be giving the time away for free to the British tourist board? (Since that's effectively what it is, a UK tourism promotion.) -GAWollman From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Apr 29 02:10:38 2011 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 02:10:38 -0400 Subject: What is it with this royal wedding nonsense? In-Reply-To: <19898.20959.95989.423995@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <19898.13691.805568.195598@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4DBA429B.9090104@donnahalper.com> <19898.20959.95989.423995@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4DBA565E.4020406@donnahalper.com> Garrett said-- > What is it with that? We got rid of that lot 235 years ago; why is > our media so fascinated by a marriage in the Mountbatten-Windsor > family? Would they be giving the time away for free to the British > tourist board? > What irritates me is how most local stations have cut back on local news and cut back on budgets for the newsroom. Yet they will come up with the money to send a crew to England to cover an event like the royal wedding. WHY? From irw@well.com Fri Apr 29 03:12:40 2011 From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 03:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: What is it with this royal wedding nonsense? In-Reply-To: <4DBA565E.4020406@donnahalper.com> References: <19898.13691.805568.195598@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4DBA429B.9090104@donnahalper.com> <19898.20959.95989.423995@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4DBA565E.4020406@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <1273.149.164.63.143.1304061160.squirrel@webmail.well.com> Donna Halper wrote: > WHY? I don't fall on the "pro" or "con" side of media coverage for this event. As some of you know, I also work in academia. A student (21 year old female) asked me why she should care about this wedding. The only reason I could come up with was "The British monarchy knows how to do a wedding, and you've never seen a Royal wedding before, as the last big one was in 1981." That's just one theory as to the importance of the event. Perhaps Boston TV GM's share my theory. Perhaps not. - Blaine From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Apr 29 03:23:55 2011 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 03:23:55 -0400 Subject: Donna on WBZ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you don't want to wait I can provide you a link to a temporary home for the file...I'll upload it, for the time being--Bob On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:18 PM, The Seacoast wrote: > Can someone send me a link or audio file of Donna Halper on Jordan's show > this past weekend? ?I would really appreciate it. From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Fri Apr 29 08:20:41 2011 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:20:41 -0400 Subject: What is it with this royal wedding nonsense? References: <19898.13691.805568.195598@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4DBA429B.9090104@donnahalper.com><19898.20959.95989.423995@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4DBA565E.4020406@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <881114E2A0E744538B26820EBC3D4647@PhilsLaptop> I think much of the fascination is the sheer romanticism of it all. It hearkens back to the Arthurian legends, chivalry, Empire, and so forth. Did you notice that the national hymn, Blake's "Jerusalem," was sung at the end of the wedding ceremony? That should tell you something. Another aspect of our gaga-ness over all this is American culture's lack of pageantry. It has been retained in Canada, in both British and, to a lesser extent, French expressions. Frankly, it's one of the things I like about the place. Massachusetts still retains a few vestiges of it, too --- the Harvard Commencement, the formality of some occasions at the State House, the Bar Association initation, and so forth. It is otherwise pretty much unknown, except for big weddings and for festive occasions in the more liturgical churches. There simply are times in life when we need to rise above the mundane. The Royal Wedding was certainly indicative of that. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Garrett Wollman" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:10 AM Subject: Re: What is it with this royal wedding nonsense? > Garrett said-- >> What is it with that? We got rid of that lot 235 years ago; why is >> our media so fascinated by a marriage in the Mountbatten-Windsor >> family? Would they be giving the time away for free to the British >> tourist board? >> > What irritates me is how most local stations have cut back on local news > and cut back on budgets for the newsroom. Yet they will come up with the > money to send a crew to England to cover an event like the royal wedding. > WHY? > From hykker@wildblue.net Fri Apr 29 08:49:44 2011 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:49:44 -0400 Subject: What is it with this royal wedding nonsense? In-Reply-To: <4DBA565E.4020406@donnahalper.com> References: <19898.13691.805568.195598@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4DBA429B.9090104@donnahalper.com> <19898.20959.95989.423995@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4DBA565E.4020406@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Donna Halper wrote: > What irritates me is how most local stations have cut back on local news > and cut back on budgets for the newsroom. Yet they will come up with the > money to send a crew to England to cover an event like the royal wedding. > WHY? > For the same reason we saw wall-to-wall coverage of Princess Diana's death, Charlie Sheen/Lindsay Lohan's antics or the results of American Idol. There are a substantial number of listeners/viewers who care more about celebrity gossip than they do about city council meetings. From lsochrin@rcn.com Fri Apr 29 13:13:57 2011 From: lsochrin@rcn.com (Larry Sochrin) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:13:57 -0400 Subject: What is it with this royal wedding nonsense? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <798D7B27-2AB9-4021-8AE9-85D6C336AFF0@rcn.com> When I tuned in at about 7:30 this morning, they were hyping the fact that Kate and William would be kissing on the balcony when they got back to the Palace after the wedding. Commentators pointed out that they had practiced this many times, specifically to get the camera angles right. One network even ran a countdown clock to the kiss in the corner of the screen. The clock disappeared 5 minutes before it hit zero for good reason, since the kiss actually happened significantly later. I don't see how they could have rehearsed this, since the kiss was a quick, insignificant peck. But my guess is that the countdown and the delay were all ways to just keep people tuned in. Nonsense is right, but that countdown clock worked, since it even got me to stick with it, although I could care less. From rac@gabrielmass.com Fri Apr 29 15:53:31 2011 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:53:31 -0400 Subject: What is it with this royal wedding nonsense? In-Reply-To: <798D7B27-2AB9-4021-8AE9-85D6C336AFF0@rcn.com> References: <798D7B27-2AB9-4021-8AE9-85D6C336AFF0@rcn.com> Message-ID: <4DBB173B.5030106@server4.gabrielmass.com> On 04/29/2011 01:13 PM, Larry Sochrin wrote: > that countdown clock worked, since it even got me to stick with it, > although I could care less. Hm? A person with a complete lack of interest would say that he _couldn't_ care less. So does this mean you normally do care about the royals to some degree? --Never mind, Richard. --OK. Anyway, I went for the TripleCast: - MSNBC with the sound off; - video from the YouTube "RoyalChannel", with the sound off: this was the same feed, but a few seconds behind, so that I could check interesting visuals twice (OMG, who mounted that robot cam up in the top of the Abbey's apse to give me acrophobia?) - commentary from BBC Radio 4 (via internet). The MSNBC video would have been improved by adding chyron titles to identify speakers: e.g., Rowan Williams, Hairy Welsh Baritone. --RC From hmglaz@att.net Fri Apr 29 16:58:42 2011 From: hmglaz@att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: What is it with this royal wedding nonsense Message-ID: <343547.25438.qm@web180309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Steve Ordinetz wrote: >>On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Donna Halper wrote: >> What irritates me is how most local stations have cut back on local news >> and cut back on budgets for the newsroom. Yet they will come up with the >> money to send a crew to England to cover an event like the royal wedding. >> WHY? > >For the same reason we saw wall-to-wall coverage of Princess Diana's death, >Charlie Sheen/Lindsay Lohan's antics or the results of American Idol. >There are a substantial number of listeners/viewers who care more about celebrity >gossip than they do about city council meetings. Unfortunately, that ought to read, more accurately, "There are substantially MORE listeners/viewers (and readers, too, for those of us in print) care more about celebrity gossip than they do about city council meetings." Commercial media have to decide whether they give the public what the broad masses WANT TO know, or what the people who own the media outlet feel the broad masses SHOULD know. Ignore the royal wedding or Lindsay Lohan, many of your listeners/viewers/readers look to your competition or other media for news. Ignore the city council or zoning board meeting, maybe a few people directly affected by the meeting look elsewhere for news; the others just watch the wedding/Lohan coverage and don't think they've missed anything important. Howard