From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue May 4 10:10:29 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 10:10:29 -0400 Subject: opening for part-time jazz d.j. Message-ID: <20100504141041.9B1671B6AF3@relay17.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> I am asking around, but wanted to see if anyone on this list knows someone who might be interested: WICN Public Radio in Worcester has an opening for a morning drive time host 6:00 a.m. - 9:00. The person MUST have expertise in jazz. And yes, it's a paid gig. If anyone knows somebody who is looking, they should let me know and I'll put them in touch. From DanKelleher@clearchannel.com Wed May 5 10:56:14 2010 From: DanKelleher@clearchannel.com (Kelleher, Daniel) Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 09:56:14 -0500 Subject: IEEE Milestone Project - FM info wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Radio Folks, A gentleman approached me looking for information on early FM, in particular the Yankee Network. He's retired and working on a IEEE project to identify significant technical milestones. The Fessenden broadcast from Brant Rock is the only radio related IEEE milestone so far in Massachusetts. There are several others in the Boston area, none from Worcester. He's dug up a lot about Bill DeMars, John Shepard, W1XOJ and happenings here on Asnebumskit. He feels the first FM network may be a worthy milestone. If any of you have dope on W1XOJ, W43B, WGTR, the Yankee Network, its offspring the W-CN Concert Network or early FM in Massachusetts, he would be interested. Please contact Gil Cooke,email gilcooke@ieee.org or 617-759-4271 Thanks. dan From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri May 7 16:51:12 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 16:51:12 -0400 Subject: shameless plug Message-ID: <20100507205137.E7FBC1B4CB9@relay30.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> If you are a Rush fan (the rock group, not the talk show host), I am hosting a showing of the new documentary about the band, "Beyond the Lighted Stage," on June 6th at the Regent Theater in Arlington. It's a really good documentary, and not just because I'm in it!!! http://www.regenttheatre.com/events/rush.htm From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun May 9 18:45:11 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 18:45:11 -0400 Subject: shameless plug, part 2 Message-ID: <20100509224537.774A31B400D@relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> My hometown newspaper, the Patriot-Ledger, just posted this about the up-coming Rush documentary: http://www.patriotledger.com/entertainment/x968907264/Rush-documentary-has-its-first-Boston-showing-June-6 From billohno@gmail.com Sun May 9 18:51:59 2010 From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com) Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 18:51:59 -0400 Subject: Marantz PMD 661 Message-ID: <4BE73C8F.2060302@gmail.com> I'm looking for one of these nifty devices (good used okay) - Marantz PMD 661 - but I'm on a tight budget. Not sure if there are any used ones out there yet since it's still fairly new release after the 660. I know they're in the $570 - 700 range. Any ideas? Bill O'Neill From paul@derrynh.net Sun May 9 20:19:42 2010 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 20:19:42 -0400 Subject: shameless plug, part 2 In-Reply-To: <20100509224537.774A31B400D@relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20100509224537.774A31B400D@relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <6C715601D0FA4EF6A456821751CAD584@PaulPC> Very cool! Do you get front row seats to the show Sept 14th? As an aside, my very first paid "job" was delivering the P-L when I was 9 years old back in'67. (I had the massive total of 3 customers when I started) -Paul Hopfgarten -Concord NH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 6:45 PM Subject: shameless plug, part 2 > My hometown newspaper, the Patriot-Ledger, just posted this about the > up-coming Rush documentary: > http://www.patriotledger.com/entertainment/x968907264/Rush-documentary-has-its-first-Boston-showing-June-6 > From joe@attorneyross.com Mon May 10 00:04:24 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 00:04:24 -0400 Subject: Car antennas Message-ID: <4BE785C8.14804.7E20E1@joe.attorneyross.com> Having recently been car shopping, I've noticed that radio antennas have changed again. My old car had a retractible whip antenna that went up when the radio was turned on and down when it was turned off. I had to replace that once in the life of the car, and it was already not going down all the way again. I notice that a lot of newer cars have a small antenna, about six to twelve inches, above the rear window. I wondered whether that would be sufficient for decent reception of AM and FM stations, but when I tested this on cars that I test-drove, it seemed to work. Why is this antenna adequate? Will it also work for satellite radio? Other cars have an antenna embedded in the rear window. I had a 1977 Oldsmobile that had the antenna embedded in the front windshield. I suppose embedding it in the rear window is about the same thing. The antenna looks like a typical FM dipole. Why does this work for AM as well, as it does seem to? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From kc1ih@mac.com Mon May 10 00:42:55 2010 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 00:42:55 -0400 Subject: Car antennas In-Reply-To: <4BE785C8.14804.7E20E1@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <4BE785C8.14804.7E20E1@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: At 12:04 AM -0400 5/10/10, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >Having recently been car shopping, I've noticed that radio antennas >have changed again. My old car had a retractible whip antenna that >went up when the radio was turned on and down when it was turned off. > I had to replace that once in the life of the car, and it was >already not going down all the way again. > >I notice that a lot of newer cars have a small antenna, about six to >twelve inches, above the rear window. I wondered whether that would >be sufficient for decent reception of AM and FM stations, but when I >tested this on cars that I test-drove, it seemed to work. Why is >this antenna adequate? Will it also work for satellite radio? > >Other cars have an antenna embedded in the rear window. I had a 1977 >Oldsmobile that had the antenna embedded in the front windshield. I >suppose embedding it in the rear window is about the same thing. The >antenna looks like a typical FM dipole. Why does this work for AM as >well, as it does seem to? > The window antennas were notoriously bad, although the later ones were amplified. Usually the amplifier is under the trim near the rear of the car. The short ones are also amplified. Some of them also have a satellite antenna built into the base, though some cars use a totally separate antenna for satellite. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon May 10 08:33:38 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 08:33:38 -0400 Subject: Car antennas References: <4BE785C8.14804.7E20E1@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <047045EFB6DF47918C0EECF5B08689A4@SatU205S5044> There seem to be two styles of the latest roof-mounted antennas. Some have a very short--maybe 2"--projection out of a base that might measure as much as 2x4x1-in. Others seem to be somewhat longer but have a smaller base. The larger-sized base appears to be easily large enough to accommodate an amplifier, whereas I imagine that antennas that use a smaller base must have their amplifiers elsewhere (trunk? between headliner and roof?). I suppose each configuration has its advantages and disadvantages, but intuitively, the idea of having the amplifier right at the base of the antenna makes more sense to me. I do remember hearing, though, that early antennas with the amplifier inside the base were prone to failure because the sun shining on the black plastic base could produce temperatures inside the little enclosure that were so high they caused the ICs inside to fail. Once the warranty ended, replacement costs were not trivial--in the $300 area, IIRC. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Car antennas > At 12:04 AM -0400 5/10/10, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >>Having recently been car shopping, I've noticed that radio antennas >>have changed again. My old car had a retractible whip antenna that >>went up when the radio was turned on and down when it was turned >>off. >> I had to replace that once in the life of the car, and it was >>already not going down all the way again. >> >>I notice that a lot of newer cars have a small antenna, about six to >>twelve inches, above the rear window. I wondered whether that would >>be sufficient for decent reception of AM and FM stations, but when I >>tested this on cars that I test-drove, it seemed to work. Why is >>this antenna adequate? Will it also work for satellite radio? >> >>Other cars have an antenna embedded in the rear window. I had a >>1977 >>Oldsmobile that had the antenna embedded in the front windshield. I >>suppose embedding it in the rear window is about the same thing. >>The >>antenna looks like a typical FM dipole. Why does this work for AM >>as >>well, as it does seem to? >> > > The window antennas were notoriously bad, although the later ones > were amplified. Usually the amplifier is under the trim near the > rear of the car. The short ones are also amplified. Some of them > also have a satellite antenna built into the base, though some cars > use a totally separate antenna for satellite. > > -- > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH From mariogonz@aol.com Mon May 10 23:08:17 2010 From: mariogonz@aol.com (Mario Gonzalez Jr.) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 23:08:17 -0400 Subject: Car antennas In-Reply-To: <047045EFB6DF47918C0EECF5B08689A4@SatU205S5044> References: <4BE785C8.14804.7E20E1@joe.attorneyross.com> <047045EFB6DF47918C0EECF5B08689A4@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4BE8CA21.5000403@aol.com> We just purchased a 2009 Saturn Aura. The antenna is located on the roof. I'm surprised that even with a small antenna, the reception is fine on AM, FM and XM. The reception seems to be as good as it was on our old 2003 Ford Taurus, which had a regular antenna that was located in the back of the car. Mario On 5/10/2010 8:33 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > There seem to be two styles of the latest roof-mounted antennas. Some > have a very short--maybe 2"--projection out of a base that might > measure as much as 2x4x1-in. Others seem to be somewhat longer but > have a smaller base. The larger-sized base appears to be easily large > enough to accommodate an amplifier, whereas I imagine that antennas > that use a smaller base must have their amplifiers elsewhere (trunk? > between headliner and roof?). I suppose each configuration has its > advantages and disadvantages, but intuitively, the idea of having the > amplifier right at the base of the antenna makes more sense to me. I > do remember hearing, though, that early antennas with the amplifier > inside the base were prone to failure because the sun shining on the > black plastic base could produce temperatures inside the little > enclosure that were so high they caused the ICs inside to fail. > Once the warranty ended, replacement costs were not trivial--in the > $300 area, IIRC. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:42 AM > Subject: Re: Car antennas > > >> At 12:04 AM -0400 5/10/10, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >>> Having recently been car shopping, I've noticed that radio antennas >>> have changed again. My old car had a retractible whip antenna that >>> went up when the radio was turned on and down when it was turned >>> off. >>> I had to replace that once in the life of the car, and it was >>> already not going down all the way again. >>> >>> I notice that a lot of newer cars have a small antenna, about six to >>> twelve inches, above the rear window. I wondered whether that would >>> be sufficient for decent reception of AM and FM stations, but when I >>> tested this on cars that I test-drove, it seemed to work. Why is >>> this antenna adequate? Will it also work for satellite radio? >>> >>> Other cars have an antenna embedded in the rear window. I had a >>> 1977 >>> Oldsmobile that had the antenna embedded in the front windshield. I >>> suppose embedding it in the rear window is about the same thing. >>> The >>> antenna looks like a typical FM dipole. Why does this work for AM >>> as >>> well, as it does seem to? >>> >> >> The window antennas were notoriously bad, although the later ones >> were amplified. Usually the amplifier is under the trim near the >> rear of the car. The short ones are also amplified. Some of them >> also have a satellite antenna built into the base, though some cars >> use a totally separate antenna for satellite. >> >> -- >> Larry Weil >> Lake Wobegone, NH > From wollman@bimajority.org Mon May 10 23:29:29 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 23:29:29 -0400 Subject: Car antennas In-Reply-To: <4BE8CA21.5000403@aol.com> References: <4BE785C8.14804.7E20E1@joe.attorneyross.com> <047045EFB6DF47918C0EECF5B08689A4@SatU205S5044> <4BE8CA21.5000403@aol.com> Message-ID: <19432.53017.876731.41514@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > We just purchased a 2009 Saturn Aura. The antenna is located on the > roof. I'm surprised that even with a small antenna, the reception is > fine on AM, FM and XM. I believe these are fractal antennas -- similar to the ones in modern cell phones, but designed for higher bandwidth (since they need to do twelve octaves, whereas cell-phone antennas only need to get two). -GAWollman From tcoco@whav.net Mon May 10 12:15:47 2010 From: tcoco@whav.net (Tim Coco) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 12:15:47 -0400 Subject: Car antennas In-Reply-To: <4BE785C8.14804.7E20E1@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <4BE785C8.14804.7E20E1@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: I'm happy you brought this up. It used to be the best AM radio reception I enjoyed was in the car. Now, AM in the car is horrible. The car's electronics seem to cause too much interference and fidelity is terrible either way. Does anyone know of a good after-market AM radio and/or antenna I should consider? Tim Coco President & General Manager WHAV -----Original Message----- From: A. Joseph Ross [mailto:joe@attorneyross.com] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:04 AM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Car antennas Having recently been car shopping, I've noticed that radio antennas have changed again. My old car had a retractible whip antenna that went up when the radio was turned on and down when it was turned off. I had to replace that once in the life of the car, and it was already not going down all the way again. I notice that a lot of newer cars have a small antenna, about six to twelve inches, above the rear window. I wondered whether that would be sufficient for decent reception of AM and FM stations, but when I tested this on cars that I test-drove, it seemed to work. Why is this antenna adequate? Will it also work for satellite radio? Other cars have an antenna embedded in the rear window. I had a 1977 Oldsmobile that had the antenna embedded in the front windshield. I suppose embedding it in the rear window is about the same thing. The antenna looks like a typical FM dipole. Why does this work for AM as well, as it does seem to? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue May 11 00:45:55 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 00:45:55 -0400 Subject: Car antennas In-Reply-To: References: <4BE785C8.14804.7E20E1@joe.attorneyross.com>, Message-ID: <4BE8E103.8788.7B9E1E@joe.attorneyross.com> On 10 May 2010 at 12:15, Tim Coco wrote: > I'm happy you brought this up. It used to be the best AM radio > reception I enjoyed was in the car. Now, AM in the car is horrible. > The car's electronics seem to cause too much interference and fidelity > is terrible either way. Does anyone know of a good after-market AM > radio and/or antenna I should consider? Well, I'm still happy with the reception in my new car (2007 Honda Accord), on both AM and FM. If you're looking for an after-market radio, I'll be happy to sell you the one I took out of my old car. I was going to sell it on eBay, but I'll be happy to sell it to you instead. It has the adaptor for a 1991 Honda Accord EX. I got it at Best Buy, and they installed it. You can probably pay them to install it in your car. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From sid@wrko.com Tue May 11 07:22:39 2010 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 07:22:39 -0400 Subject: Car antennas In-Reply-To: References: <4BE785C8.14804.7E20E1@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC553EABBE88@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> "Does anyone know of a good after-market AM radio and/or antenna I should consider?" Anything AC/Delco made, about 30-40 years ago. In all seriousness. Those were the last really good AM car radios made. I know of at least one station that used one as an air monitor. I know of an engineer who built one into an old lunchbox along with some 12v batteries and a whip antenna and had himself a really nice portable. The down-side is: The AM noise floor is much higher than it used to be. If the electronics in the car don't get you, the minimally-filtered switching power supplies in computers, LED traffic signals and elsewhere will, not to mention AM stations running HD which will fill that nice wide bandwidth with digital hash. If you're up for it, start looking in junkyards. You can usually pick one up for a low price. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From friedbagels@gmail.com Tue May 11 10:42:34 2010 From: friedbagels@gmail.com (Aaron Read) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 10:42:34 -0400 Subject: Car antennas Message-ID: <4BE96CDA.8030401@gmail.com> Tim - I can't speak quite as much for AM as for FM, but in general for BOTH bands, your average HD Radio receiver is actually quite good. Not just for digital signals, I mean for analog, too. The filtering and DSP is usually several notches above your average factory radio, and lightyears above your average aftermarket non-HD radio. The simple reason is that the digital signals are so much weaker than analog that these radios HAVE to be that sensitive, and that good at adjacent-channel rejection, in order to pick anything up at all. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron Read | Finger Lakes Public Radio friedbagels@gmail.com | General Manager (WEOS & WHWS-LP) Geneva, NY 14456 | www.weos.org / www.whws.fm I'm happy you brought this up. It used to be the best AM radio reception I enjoyed was in the car. Now, AM in the car is horrible. The car's electronics seem to cause too much interference and fidelity is terrible either way. Does anyone know of a good after-market AM radio and/or antenna I should consider? Tim Coco President & General Manager WHAV From map@mapinternet.com Tue May 11 14:10:33 2010 From: map@mapinternet.com (Mark Casey) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 14:10:33 -0400 Subject: Car antennas & Radios In-Reply-To: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC553EABBE88@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> References: <4BE785C8.14804.7E20E1@joe.attorneyross.com> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC553EABBE88@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <8B7A5B3FC8A843B785340C3C0D21B1C6@CASEYPC> The further away from the metal body the antenna is located, the better it works. And, with most folks listen mostly to local FM and maybe a couple of the strongest AM stations, the short antennas on the roof seem to work fairly well. If you really want to get some improvement in AM reception, add an extension to a cowl mounted antenna. On my 2006 F250, I've added about 3 ft, and the AM has really improved with no discernable detriment to the FM side. The total antenna length is about 5-6'. Been doing this for years. I took the 24" rooftop antenna on my Ford Focus wagon and replaced it with a 40" whip--again, a big improvement on AM, and some improvement on FM. (Recently listenened to 1000 watt WICC, 600, Bridgeport from just outside of New York City right up to Hartford before the buzzing started) Technically, with the longer antenna, (unless it is increased to 90-95") the FM reception might be out of phase at some points, but in reality, with the haphazard way the 88-108 MHz waves are being recieved by the original antenna, they are rarely matched to the antenna anyway. And, the larger capture area greatly improves reception of the long AM waves, and, in some cases, the increased capture area improves FM reception also. As far as radios go, you might be able to look at the receive specs and get an idea of a good aftermarket radio. But, I was dissapointed with a new Blaupunkt's reception a few years ago, though the sound quality was good on both AM & FM. The old radios were a mixed bag. A few AC-Delco's were pretty good, but most of the ones I had were lousy (61 Chevy, 64 Chevy, 66 Buick, 67 Pontiac, 68 C-10 pickup, etc.). The Ford radios, as a group, have generally been much better. The recent Ford radios have been pretty decent. Car radios as a group, on AM broadcast, however, have not really improved in a long time. My 1939 Ford Coupe in-dash tube radio was as good a receiver on AM as anything made today, and sounded better than just about any other AM car radio I've ever had. Like Sid described, In the 80's I made a car radio into a workshop radio, running off a car battery and charger. It was the only way to receive a clean daytime signal from WHN 1050, New York City, then the top country station in the US, in Ludlow, Mass. I also used a very long metal car antenna with a metal extension. The problem with using a junkyard car radio now, is hooking it up, which probably can be done, but not as easily as it used to be. Mark Casey, K1MAP near Springfield, MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Schweiger" To: "boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org" Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:22 AM Subject: RE: Car antennas "Does anyone know of a good after-market AM radio and/or antenna I should consider?" Anything AC/Delco made, about 30-40 years ago. In all seriousness. Those were the last really good AM car radios made. I know of at least one station that used one as an air monitor. I know of an engineer who built one into an old lunchbox along with some 12v batteries and a whip antenna and had himself a really nice portable. The down-side is: The AM noise floor is much higher than it used to be. If the electronics in the car don't get you, the minimally-filtered switching power supplies in computers, LED traffic signals and elsewhere will, not to mention AM stations running HD which will fill that nice wide bandwidth with digital hash. If you're up for it, start looking in junkyards. You can usually pick one up for a low price. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue May 11 14:29:42 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 14:29:42 -0400 Subject: Car antennas & Radios References: <4BE785C8.14804.7E20E1@joe.attorneyross.com><0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC553EABBE88@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> <8B7A5B3FC8A843B785340C3C0D21B1C6@CASEYPC> Message-ID: <06F5B80CB9F24003BA2725AB652DA388@SatU205S5044> Thanks to a low dial position and a site on an island (Pleasure Beach Island) in Long Island Sound, WICC has a killer signal in a lot of New York City. I grew up in an apartment in the northwest Bronx (the side of the Bronx that's about seven miles from the Sound). I listened to WICC all the time. Obviously, it didn't come in like 660 or 880, but the reception was just fine. In Connecticut itself, I would say that WICC has the second best AM signal in the state, after 50-kW WTIC. I've picked up WICC clearly on a car radio in the parking lot at Tanglewood, which must be about 100 miles from Bridgeport, in a region of very poor soil conductivity. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Casey" To: "Sid Schweiger" ; Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Car antennas & Radios > The further away from the metal body the antenna is located, the > better it > works. And, with most folks listen mostly to local FM and maybe a > couple of > the strongest AM stations, the short antennas on the roof seem to > work > fairly well. > > If you really want to get some improvement in AM reception, add an > extension > to a cowl mounted antenna. On my 2006 F250, I've added about 3 ft, > and the > AM has really improved with no discernable detriment to the FM side. > The > total antenna length is about 5-6'. Been doing this for years. I > took the > 24" rooftop antenna on my Ford Focus wagon and replaced it with a > 40" > whip--again, a big improvement on AM, and some improvement on FM. > (Recently > listenened to 1000 watt WICC, 600, Bridgeport from just outside of > New York > City right up to Hartford before the buzzing started) Technically, > with the > longer antenna, (unless it is increased to 90-95") the FM reception > might be > out of phase at some points, but in reality, with the haphazard way > the > 88-108 MHz waves are being recieved by the original antenna, they > are rarely > matched to the antenna anyway. And, the larger capture area greatly > improves > reception of the long AM waves, and, in some cases, the increased > capture > area improves FM reception also. > > As far as radios go, you might be able to look at the receive specs > and get > an idea of a good aftermarket radio. But, I was dissapointed with a > new > Blaupunkt's reception a few years ago, though the sound quality was > good on > both AM & FM. > > The old radios were a mixed bag. A few AC-Delco's were pretty good, > but most > of the ones I had were lousy (61 Chevy, 64 Chevy, 66 Buick, 67 > Pontiac, 68 > C-10 pickup, etc.). The Ford radios, as a group, have generally been > much > better. The recent Ford radios have been pretty decent. Car radios > as a > group, on AM broadcast, however, have not really improved in a long > time. My > 1939 Ford Coupe in-dash tube radio was as good a receiver on AM as > anything > made today, and sounded better than just about any other AM car > radio I've > ever had. > > Like Sid described, In the 80's I made a car radio into a workshop > radio, > running off a car battery and charger. It was the only way to > receive a > clean daytime signal from WHN 1050, New York City, then the top > country > station in the US, in Ludlow, Mass. I also used a very long metal > car > antenna with a metal extension. > > The problem with using a junkyard car radio now, is hooking it up, > which > probably can be done, but not as easily as it used to be. > > Mark Casey, K1MAP > near Springfield, MA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sid Schweiger" > To: "boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org" > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:22 AM > Subject: RE: Car antennas > > > "Does anyone know of a good after-market AM radio and/or antenna I > should > consider?" > > Anything AC/Delco made, about 30-40 years ago. > > In all seriousness. Those were the last really good AM car radios > made. I > know of at least one station that used one as an air monitor. I > know of an > engineer who built one into an old lunchbox along with some 12v > batteries > and a whip antenna and had himself a really nice portable. > > The down-side is: The AM noise floor is much higher than it used to > be. If > the electronics in the car don't get you, the minimally-filtered > switching > power supplies in computers, LED traffic signals and elsewhere will, > not to > mention AM stations running HD which will fill that nice wide > bandwidth with > digital hash. > > If you're up for it, start looking in junkyards. You can usually > pick one > up for a low price. > > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom New England > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > Brighton MA 02135-2040 > > > > From Cdsull502@aol.com Tue May 11 22:28:26 2010 From: Cdsull502@aol.com (Cdsull502@aol.com) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 22:28:26 EDT Subject: NorthEast Air Checks Message-ID: <375b7.4c71a08e.391b6c4a@aol.com> Check out Rick Kelly's NorthEast Air Checks site. He recently added two collections of Boston Radio Jingles 1955-1974---The stations featured are: WBZ, WHDH, WMEX, WRKO-FM, and even a snippet or two from WNAC---they range from the truly awful (WBZ in the 50's) to some of the best remembered ones from the 60's. Well worth a few minutes of your time. Chris Sullivan CdSull502@aol.com From aerie.ma@comcast.net Wed May 12 08:57:23 2010 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 08:57:23 -0400 Subject: NorthEast Air Checks In-Reply-To: <375b7.4c71a08e.391b6c4a@aol.com> References: <375b7.4c71a08e.391b6c4a@aol.com> Message-ID: <000301caf1d2$af0384b0$0d0a8e10$@ma@comcast.net> Some of those are pretty funny...the very first jingle I listened to said that Carl DeSuze would make you "tres gay".:) -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Cdsull502@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:28 PM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: NorthEast Air Checks Check out Rick Kelly's NorthEast Air Checks site. He recently added two collections of Boston Radio Jingles 1955-1974---The stations featured are: WBZ, WHDH, WMEX, WRKO-FM, and even a snippet or two from WNAC---they range from the truly awful (WBZ in the 50's) to some of the best remembered ones from the 60's. Well worth a few minutes of your time. Chris Sullivan CdSull502@aol.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed May 12 08:57:48 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 08:57:48 -0400 Subject: NorthEast Air Checks References: <375b7.4c71a08e.391b6c4a@aol.com> <000301caf1d2$af0384b0$0d0a8e10$@ma@comcast.net> Message-ID: That's gai, not gay. I know the pronunciation is the same, but the French was supposed to be appropriate in urbane, sophisticated Boston, where everyone supposedly knows that gai is French for happy. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hall" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:57 AM Subject: RE: NorthEast Air Checks > Some of those are pretty funny...the very first jingle I listened to > said > that Carl DeSuze would make you "tres gay".:) > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On > Behalf Of > Cdsull502@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:28 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: NorthEast Air Checks > > Check out Rick Kelly's NorthEast Air Checks site. He recently > added two > collections of Boston Radio Jingles 1955-1974---The stations > featured are: > WBZ, WHDH, WMEX, WRKO-FM, and even a snippet or two from WNAC---they > range > from the truly awful (WBZ in the 50's) to some of the best > remembered ones > from the 60's. Well worth a few minutes of your time. > > Chris Sullivan > CdSull502@aol.com > From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed May 12 09:31:04 2010 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 09:31:04 -0400 Subject: NorthEast Air Checks In-Reply-To: References: <375b7.4c71a08e.391b6c4a@aol.com> <000301caf1d2$af0384b0$0d0a8e10$@ma@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001801caf1d7$61e0de30$25a29a90$@com> >That's gai, not gay. I know the pronunciation is the same, but the >French was supposed to be appropriate in urbane, sophisticated Boston, >where everyone supposedly knows that gai is French for happy. Yes, I used to see a lot of happy people in Bay Village when I worked at the 57 Theatre. Brian From lspin@comcast.net Wed May 12 09:58:03 2010 From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou) Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 09:58:03 -0400 Subject: NorthEast Air Checks In-Reply-To: References: <375b7.4c71a08e.391b6c4a@aol.com> <000301caf1d2$af0384b0$0d0a8e10$@ma@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000c01caf1db$23fc7580$6bf56080$@net> Not to continue a thread that is sure to go way off topic, but I have a capture of an autographed Carl DeSuze promo picture. He's positioned in front of a WBZ mike and the caption reads, "So You Need a Program... keep it gay with Carl DeSuze." -Lou -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:58 AM To: Jim Hall; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: NorthEast Air Checks That's gai, not gay. I know the pronunciation is the same, but the French was supposed to be appropriate in urbane, sophisticated Boston, where everyone supposedly knows that gai is French for happy. From friedbagels@gmail.com Wed May 12 10:21:02 2010 From: friedbagels@gmail.com (Aaron Read) Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 10:21:02 -0400 Subject: Car antennas & Radios Message-ID: <4BEAB94E.9040009@gmail.com> I had a Blaupunkt CD-52 Casablanca car radio for several years in Boston when I was commuting daily from Brighton to Medfield and then Melrose to Bedford, and just driving all over hell and gone for consulting work. It had the SHARX I.F. filter and DSP tuning and it was the bee's knees for FM reception. AM was only "decent", though. But on FM it was a killer...especially on the left end of the dial where there's several smaller college stations jammed in on the same or adjacent frequencies. When I moved to NYS, I had the opportunity to put in an HD Radio, one of the early-model Kenwoods that was the add-on-tuning module style. Old enough that it didn't even support multicasting. At first I thought the reception was "okay", maybe "pretty decent"...but I suspected my old Blau might be better. Then I took the Kenwood out and put the Blau in and suddenly discovered what a dog that Blau was compared to the Kenwood! It wasn't that the Kenwood was worse, it was that I was inadvertently trying to listen to stations I had no business receiving, considering how far away I was! :) Later I got a multicast-enabled version of the tuner, and then a JVC KDHDW10 HD Radio and have been very pleased with the results. In fact, the only reason I'm considering replacing the JVC is that it doesn't support RDS. But I can get 4kW Class A WEOS (in full HD!!!) when parked at the campus of Corning Community College, about 60 miles away and WELL outside our 40dBu contour. Check out this R-L map: http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WEOS&service=FM&status=L&hours=U You can just see Corning hidden by the "n" in "Pattern" along the bottom. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron Read | Finger Lakes Public Radio friedbagels@gmail.com | General Manager (WEOS & WHWS-LP) Geneva, NY 14456 | www.weos.org / www.whws.fm As far as radios go, you might be able to look at the receive specs and get an idea of a good aftermarket radio. But, I was dissapointed with a new Blaupunkt's reception a few years ago, though the sound quality was good on both AM & FM. Mark Casey, K1MAP near Springfield, MA From joe@attorneyross.com Thu May 13 01:21:48 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 01:21:48 -0400 Subject: NorthEast Air Checks In-Reply-To: <375b7.4c71a08e.391b6c4a@aol.com> References: <375b7.4c71a08e.391b6c4a@aol.com> Message-ID: <4BEB8C6C.24630.7A4EE9@joe.attorneyross.com> On 11 May 2010 at 22:28, Cdsull502@aol.com wrote: > Check out Rick Kelly's NorthEast Air Checks site. He recently added > two collections of Boston Radio Jingles 1955-1974---The stations > featured are: WBZ, WHDH, WMEX, WRKO-FM, and even a snippet or two > from WNAC---they range from the truly awful (WBZ in the 50's) to some > of the best remembered ones from the 60's. Well worth a few minutes > of your time. URL? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Thu May 13 02:19:34 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 01:19:34 -0500 Subject: NorthEast Air Checks In-Reply-To: <4BEB8C6C.24630.7A4EE9@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <375b7.4c71a08e.391b6c4a@aol.com> <4BEB8C6C.24630.7A4EE9@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: http://northeastairchecks.com/ The Bud Bullou aircheck is great :) On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:21 AM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 11 May 2010 at 22:28, Cdsull502@aol.com wrote: > > > Check out Rick Kelly's NorthEast Air Checks site. He recently added > > two collections of Boston Radio Jingles 1955-1974---The stations > > featured are: WBZ, WHDH, WMEX, WRKO-FM, and even a snippet or two > > from WNAC---they range from the truly awful (WBZ in the 50's) to some > > of the best remembered ones from the 60's. Well worth a few minutes > > of your time. > > URL? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 > http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu May 13 02:21:24 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 02:21:24 -0400 Subject: NorthEast Air Checks In-Reply-To: <375b7.4c71a08e.391b6c4a@aol.com> References: <375b7.4c71a08e.391b6c4a@aol.com> Message-ID: <20100513062125.A57541E6244@relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 10:28 PM 5/11/2010, Cdsull502@aol.com wrote: >Check out Rick Kelly's NorthEast Air Checks site. He recently added two >collections of Boston Radio Jingles 1955-1974---The stations featured are: >WBZ, WHDH, WMEX, WRKO-FM, and even a snippet or two from WNAC---they range >from the truly awful (WBZ in the 50's) Actually, those awful WBZ airchecks were typical of the mid 50s style of jingles-- lots of singers who sounded like the Modernaires on those Empire Carpet commercials! And this bunch happens to be rather historical. They seem to be from the period of time (1956) when WBZ transitioned away from NBC syndicated shows to locally produced announcers-- the "Live Five" -- it's also interesting that the jingles mention Leo Egan, and talk about how WBZ is "new"-- which, programming-wise, they were. From rickkelly@gmail.com Thu May 13 06:43:00 2010 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 06:43:00 -0400 Subject: NorthEast Air Checks In-Reply-To: <375b7.4c71a08e.391b6c4a@aol.com> References: <375b7.4c71a08e.391b6c4a@aol.com> Message-ID: BRI list member Mark Connelly contributed a lot of the stuff I recently put up, thanks go to him and the flash drive he sent me with all kinds of stuff! -Rick Kelly northeastairchecks.com On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:28 PM, wrote: > Check out Rick Kelly's NorthEast Air Checks site. ?He recently ?added two > collections of Boston Radio Jingles 1955-1974---The stations featured ?are: > WBZ, WHDH, WMEX, WRKO-FM, and even a snippet or two from WNAC---they range > from the truly awful (WBZ in the 50's) to some of the best remembered ones > from ?the 60's. ?Well worth a few minutes of your time. > > Chris ?Sullivan > CdSull502@aol.com > From m_carney@yahoo.com Thu May 13 08:33:56 2010 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 05:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Universal Sports on 50.2 Message-ID: <496073.16841.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Just got an e-mail from our affliate relations department @ CSN. WZMY will be launching Universal Sports on 50.2 and channel 288 on Comcast in June. They're airing mostly Olympic sports right now but who knows what will happen once the Comcast/NBC merger is finalized. Maureen From aerie.ma@comcast.net Thu May 13 08:47:08 2010 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 08:47:08 -0400 Subject: Universal Sports on 50.2 In-Reply-To: <496073.16841.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <496073.16841.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000601caf29a$6a5aee70$3f10cb50$@ma@comcast.net> That's actually good news. My mom is a big figure skating fan, and the world championships this year were on Universal Sports, which Comcast did not carry. She was very upset. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Carney Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:34 AM To: Boston Radio Group Subject: Universal Sports on 50.2 Just got an e-mail from our affliate relations department @ CSN. WZMY will be launching Universal Sports on 50.2 and channel 288 on Comcast in June. They're airing mostly Olympic sports right now but who knows what will happen once the Comcast/NBC merger is finalized. Maureen From kc1ih@mac.com Thu May 13 10:56:02 2010 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:56:02 -0400 Subject: Universal Sports on 50.2 In-Reply-To: <496073.16841.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <496073.16841.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 5:33 AM -0700 5/13/10, Maureen Carney wrote: > They're airing mostly Olympic sports right now but who knows what >will happen once the Comcast/NBC merger is finalized. > > Don't you mean IF the merger is finalized? -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From m_carney@yahoo.com Thu May 13 11:33:10 2010 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 08:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Universal Sports on 50.2 In-Reply-To: References: <496073.16841.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <876626.55161.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Since I work for Comcast it's a corporate case of when and not if. I guess it depends on the definitions of "when", "if" and "details" you want to use. From markwa1ion@aol.com Thu May 13 13:40:35 2010 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 13:40:35 -0400 Subject: NorthEast Air Checks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCC0DA87304ED3-1298-EEE@webmail-d056.sysops.aol.com> << BRI list member Mark Connelly contributed a lot of the stuff I recently put up, thanks go to him and the flash drive he sent me with all kinds of stuff! -Rick Kelly northeastairchecks.com >> A good amount of '60s to early '70s material comes from my reel-to-reel tapes made at the "Menotomy Rocks Park recording studio" (High Haith Rd., Arlington) where I first got into airchecking as a kid starting around the 6th grade. There are probably a few more reel and cassette tapes to dump into Total Recorder but available time may not be there until I retire. Other material came from various people with whom I've traded cassettes, and later CD's & MP3's, over the years. There's a guy up in Maine who has a lot of WBZ material. WBZ must be the overall "winner" among New England stations when it comes to archived programming in the hands of collectors. Of course the station's roster over the years reads like the who's who of broadcasting: C. DeSuze, D. Maynard, A. Dary, J. Dunn, J. Kaye, D. Summer, B. Bradley, etc. in the music days and Glick, Sullivan, Brudnoy, Leveille, and so many others in their news-talk incarnation. I think all of us, whether we worked in broadcasting or are just fans, should do as much as we can to dub any of our (likely deteriorating) aircheck tapes of historical and entertainment value into MP3 and then share the files with others of like interest. This way the history, the talent, and the all-around-fun of old broadcasts is not lost forever. Mark Connelly (WA1ION) - Billerica, MA + S. Yarmouth, MA From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Thu May 13 14:09:05 2010 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 11:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Universal Sports on 50.2 In-Reply-To: <496073.16841.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <664351.69509.qm@web110512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Thu, 5/13/10, Maureen Carney wrote: > Just got an e-mail from our affliate > relations department @ CSN. WZMY will be launching Universal > Sports on 50.2 and channel 288 on Comcast in June. They're > airing mostly Olympic sports right now but who knows what > will happen once the Comcast/NBC merger is finalized. I was of the belief it was on one of WHDH's subchannels after Weather Plus disappeared, but I could be mixing up my NBC stations. What is WHDH's subchannel lineup? From m_carney@yahoo.com Thu May 13 14:44:21 2010 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 11:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Universal Sports on 50.2 In-Reply-To: <664351.69509.qm@web110512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <664351.69509.qm@web110512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <824847.46968.qm@web53302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ThisTV, which runs movies & TV shows?out the MGM library. As much as NBC would like affiliates to pick up their owned subchannels it wasn't going to happen with WHDH given Sunbeam's issues with the network over the Leno show. WJAR hasn't picked it up either.They run RTV on 10.2. From kc1ih@mac.com Thu May 13 14:50:17 2010 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 14:50:17 -0400 Subject: Universal Sports on 50.2 In-Reply-To: <664351.69509.qm@web110512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <496073.16841.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <664351.69509.qm@web110512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001601caf2cd$21fb8670$65f29350$@com> WHDH-DT2 is "This TV", which mostly airs old movies. > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On > Behalf Of Sean Smyth > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:09 PM > To: Boston Radio Group; Maureen Carney > Subject: Re: Universal Sports on 50.2 > > On Thu, 5/13/10, Maureen Carney wrote: > > Just got an e-mail from our affliate > > relations department @ CSN. WZMY will be launching Universal > > Sports on 50.2 and channel 288 on Comcast in June. They're > > airing mostly Olympic sports right now but who knows what > > will happen once the Comcast/NBC merger is finalized. > > I was of the belief it was on one of WHDH's subchannels after Weather > Plus disappeared, but I could be mixing up my NBC stations. What is > WHDH's subchannel lineup? > > > From hykker@wildblue.net Thu May 13 13:47:16 2010 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 13:47:16 -0400 Subject: NorthEast Air Checks In-Reply-To: <8CCC0DA87304ED3-1298-EEE@webmail-d056.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCC0DA87304ED3-1298-EEE@webmail-d056.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 1:40 PM, wrote: > > WBZ must be the overall "winner" among New England stations when it comes > to archived programming in the hands of collectors. > > Which kind of stands to reason given their signal. I'm always interested in finding 'BZ airchecks, especially from their top 40 days. From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Thu May 13 16:11:08 2010 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (revdoug1@myfairpoint.net) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:11:08 -0400 Subject: Al Kennedy Message-ID: <20100513161108.snulbs916p0kkgsc@webmail.myfairpoint.net> I've been listening to the jingle airchecks on Rick Kelly's site this afternoon, and also listened to the 1969 Bud Ballou WMEX recording. In the middle of the latter is part of a newscast done by a guy named Al Kennedy --- very polished, great baritone voice, excellent delivery. I've heard him before somewhere, but can't place where. Does anyone out there know anything about him? -Doug From kvahey@gmail.com Thu May 13 17:05:18 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:05:18 -0500 Subject: Al Kennedy In-Reply-To: <20100513161108.snulbs916p0kkgsc@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20100513161108.snulbs916p0kkgsc@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: Al was a great guy WMEX was a master at giving listeners the impression it was a full size newsroom On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:11 PM, wrote: > I've been listening to the jingle airchecks on Rick Kelly's site this > afternoon, and also listened to the 1969 Bud Ballou WMEX recording. In the > middle of the latter is part of a newscast done by a guy named Al Kennedy > --- very polished, great baritone voice, excellent delivery. I've heard him > before somewhere, but can't place where. Does anyone out there know > anything about him? -Doug > From lspin@comcast.net Thu May 13 19:27:14 2010 From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 19:27:14 -0400 Subject: Al Kennedy In-Reply-To: References: <20100513161108.snulbs916p0kkgsc@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <001d01caf2f3$d26aa6a0$773ff3e0$@net> I can add that Al Kennedy was a great 'straight-man' for Bud Ballou's antics during the Ballou show on WMEX. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Vahey Subject: Re: Al Kennedy Al was a great guy WMEX was a master at giving listeners the impression it was a full size newsroom On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:11 PM, wrote: > I've been listening to the jingle airchecks on Rick Kelly's site this > afternoon, and also listened to the 1969 Bud Ballou WMEX recording. In the > middle of the latter is part of a newscast done by a guy named Al Kennedy > --- very polished, great baritone voice, excellent delivery. I've heard him > before somewhere, but can't place where. Does anyone out there know > anything about him? -Doug > From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu May 13 20:06:44 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 20:06:44 -0400 Subject: Al Kennedy References: <20100513161108.snulbs916p0kkgsc@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <6D40499FED104C52BEE355E7451CC8BF@SatU205S5044> WMEX was owned and managed by people who pinched pennies until Lincoln howled in pain. The station had antiquated equipment and generally lousy facilities (and this time, I am not referring just to the signal, although that was terrible until the daytime power increase of 1972). But somehow, they managed to sound great and get ratings that were unheard of in a market with as many signals as Boston has. The air staff pretty obviously knew they were being taken advantage of, which probably led to the revolving door. Yet they seemed to enjoy every minute, and as long as they hung around, gave the impression that they wouldn't trade their jobs for ones that paid a living wage. And when they finally bailed, there must have been dozens of people--top notch talents--who would fight for the opportunity to be mistreated for coolie wages. How did Mac and Dickie Richmond pull this off? Seems like the stuff of which books are made (Donna?). Or maybe the book has been written--and it wasn't a book at all, but a TV show named WKRP in Cincinnati. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Al Kennedy > Al was a great guy > > WMEX was a master at giving listeners the impression it was a full > size > newsroom > > > > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:11 PM, wrote: > >> I've been listening to the jingle airchecks on Rick Kelly's site >> this >> afternoon, and also listened to the 1969 Bud Ballou WMEX recording. >> In the >> middle of the latter is part of a newscast done by a guy named Al >> Kennedy >> --- very polished, great baritone voice, excellent delivery. I've >> heard him >> before somewhere, but can't place where. Does anyone out there >> know >> anything about him? -Doug >> From kvahey@gmail.com Thu May 13 20:22:12 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 19:22:12 -0500 Subject: Al Kennedy In-Reply-To: <6D40499FED104C52BEE355E7451CC8BF@SatU205S5044> References: <20100513161108.snulbs916p0kkgsc@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <6D40499FED104C52BEE355E7451CC8BF@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: Actually the studios at 111 Broadway were pretty good as Mac bought all new boards, turntables etc Arnie Ginsburg actually designed it. The transmitter was a mess however. On 5/13/10, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > WMEX was owned and managed by people who pinched pennies until Lincoln > howled in pain. The station had antiquated equipment and generally > lousy facilities (and this time, I am not referring just to the > signal, although that was terrible until the daytime power increase of > 1972). But somehow, they managed to sound great and get ratings that > were unheard of in a market with as many signals as Boston has. The > air staff pretty obviously knew they were being taken advantage of, > which probably led to the revolving door. Yet they seemed to enjoy > every minute, and as long as they hung around, gave the impression > that they wouldn't trade their jobs for ones that paid a living wage. > And when they finally bailed, there must have been dozens of > people--top notch talents--who would fight for the opportunity to be > mistreated for coolie wages. How did Mac and Dickie Richmond pull this > off? Seems like the stuff of which books are made (Donna?). Or maybe > the book has been written--and it wasn't a book at all, but a TV show > named WKRP in Cincinnati. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Vahey" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:05 PM > Subject: Re: Al Kennedy > > >> Al was a great guy >> >> WMEX was a master at giving listeners the impression it was a full >> size >> newsroom >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:11 PM, wrote: >> >>> I've been listening to the jingle airchecks on Rick Kelly's site >>> this >>> afternoon, and also listened to the 1969 Bud Ballou WMEX recording. >>> In the >>> middle of the latter is part of a newscast done by a guy named Al >>> Kennedy >>> --- very polished, great baritone voice, excellent delivery. I've >>> heard him >>> before somewhere, but can't place where. Does anyone out there >>> know >>> anything about him? -Doug >>> > > -- Sent from my mobile device From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri May 14 01:47:26 2010 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 01:47:26 -0400 Subject: Al Kennedy References: <20100513161108.snulbs916p0kkgsc@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <09AFDB1C1F954770985F72F3071C3F12@s20035> Didn't Al Kennedy go on to work at the State House? D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" > Al was a great guy > > WMEX was a master at giving listeners the impression it was a full size > newsroom > > > > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:11 PM, wrote: > >> I've been listening to the jingle airchecks on Rick Kelly's site this >> afternoon, and also listened to the 1969 Bud Ballou WMEX recording. In >> the >> middle of the latter is part of a newscast done by a guy named Al Kennedy >> --- very polished, great baritone voice, excellent delivery. I've heard >> him >> before somewhere, but can't place where. Does anyone out there know >> anything about him? -Doug >> From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri May 14 01:50:34 2010 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 01:50:34 -0400 Subject: Does anyone have a subs to Inside Radio? Message-ID: <20AEF9B119254A09A4CF71FC9EA8D269@s20035> Does anyone have a subscription to the online version of InsideRadio? Can you email me personally. Thanks! From kvahey@gmail.com Fri May 14 02:03:09 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 01:03:09 -0500 Subject: Al Kennedy In-Reply-To: <09AFDB1C1F954770985F72F3071C3F12@s20035> References: <20100513161108.snulbs916p0kkgsc@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <09AFDB1C1F954770985F72F3071C3F12@s20035> Message-ID: Yes Al worked as the press secretary for 3 speakers of the house after escaping WMEX. He pretty much created Gavel to Gavel on Ch 44. He passed about ten years ago....great guy. On 5/14/10, Don wrote: > > Didn't Al Kennedy go on to work at the State House? > > D > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Vahey" > >> Al was a great guy >> >> WMEX was a master at giving listeners the impression it was a full size >> newsroom >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:11 PM, wrote: >> >>> I've been listening to the jingle airchecks on Rick Kelly's site this >>> afternoon, and also listened to the 1969 Bud Ballou WMEX recording. In >>> the >>> middle of the latter is part of a newscast done by a guy named Al Kennedy >>> --- very polished, great baritone voice, excellent delivery. I've heard >>> him >>> before somewhere, but can't place where. Does anyone out there know >>> anything about him? -Doug >>> > > -- Sent from my mobile device From kvahey@gmail.com Fri May 14 08:56:53 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 07:56:53 -0500 Subject: Al Kennedy In-Reply-To: References: <20100513161108.snulbs916p0kkgsc@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <6D40499FED104C52BEE355E7451CC8BF@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: WMEX starting testing 50K daytime in the summer of 68. I remember Ron (Polcari) Robin telling Mac that the signal in Manchester was worse. Mac just wanted 50K on the rate cards and coverage maps he sent out. WRKO blindsided Mac as he just assumed he would hold his own as he did with WBZ. On 5/14/10, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Dan.Strassberg > wrote: > >> WMEX was owned and managed by people who pinched pennies until Lincoln >> howled in pain. The station had antiquated equipment and generally >> lousy facilities (and this time, I am not referring just to the >> signal, although that was terrible until the daytime power increase of >> 1972). > > > Not sure of the exact chronology of WMEX's power increase, but ISTR mentions > of being 50,000W as early as 1969. I have several music surveys from 1971 > that refer to the station as a "50,000 W Hitmaker". > -- Sent from my mobile device From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Fri May 14 09:23:28 2010 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (revdoug1@myfairpoint.net) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 09:23:28 -0400 Subject: Al Kennedy Message-ID: <20100514092328.i212x6fn2fk8ww08@webmail.myfairpoint.net> When I was a junior in high school, we had a one-day summer outing at Crane's Beach in Ipswich. WMEX was doing 50kw at that time, and I (who always carried my trusty GE portable radio with me) was in seventh heaven. Living out near Fitchburg, I could never get the station. -D.D. Quoting Kevin Vahey : > WMEX starting testing 50K daytime in the summer of 68. I remember Ron > (Polcari) Robin telling Mac that the signal in Manchester was worse. > > Mac just wanted 50K on the rate cards and coverage maps he sent out. > > WRKO blindsided Mac as he just assumed he would hold his own as he did > with WBZ. > > On 5/14/10, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Dan.Strassberg > > wrote: > > > >> WMEX was owned and managed by people who pinched pennies until Lincoln > >> howled in pain. The station had antiquated equipment and generally > >> lousy facilities (and this time, I am not referring just to the > >> signal, although that was terrible until the daytime power increase of > >> 1972). > > > > > > Not sure of the exact chronology of WMEX's power increase, but ISTR mentions > > of being 50,000W as early as 1969. I have several music surveys from 1971 > > that refer to the station as a "50,000 W Hitmaker". > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Fri May 14 09:37:19 2010 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (revdoug1@myfairpoint.net) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 09:37:19 -0400 Subject: Al Kennedy Message-ID: <20100514093719.puu7pwfxesoowck0@webmail.myfairpoint.net> I neglected to mention that outing was in the summer of 1968. -Doug Quoting revdoug1@myfairpoint.net: > When I was a junior in high school, we had a one-day summer outing at Crane's > Beach in Ipswich. WMEX was doing 50kw at that time, and I (who > always carried > my trusty GE portable radio with me) was in seventh heaven. Living out near > Fitchburg, I could never get the station. -D.D. > > > Quoting Kevin Vahey : > > WMEX starting testing 50K daytime in the summer of 68. I remember Ron > > (Polcari) Robin telling Mac that the signal in Manchester was worse. > > > > Mac just wanted 50K on the rate cards and coverage maps he sent out. > > > > WRKO blindsided Mac as he just assumed he would hold his own as he did > > with WBZ. > > > > On 5/14/10, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Dan.Strassberg > > > wrote: > > > > > >> WMEX was owned and managed by people who pinched pennies until Lincoln > > >> howled in pain. The station had antiquated equipment and generally > > >> lousy facilities (and this time, I am not referring just to the > > >> signal, although that was terrible until the daytime power increase of > > >> 1972). > > > > > > > > > Not sure of the exact chronology of WMEX's power increase, but > ISTR mentions > > > of being 50,000W as early as 1969. I have several music surveys > from 1971 > > > that refer to the station as a "50,000 W Hitmaker". > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > From hykker@wildblue.net Fri May 14 08:46:09 2010 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 08:46:09 -0400 Subject: Al Kennedy In-Reply-To: <6D40499FED104C52BEE355E7451CC8BF@SatU205S5044> References: <20100513161108.snulbs916p0kkgsc@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <6D40499FED104C52BEE355E7451CC8BF@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > WMEX was owned and managed by people who pinched pennies until Lincoln > howled in pain. The station had antiquated equipment and generally > lousy facilities (and this time, I am not referring just to the > signal, although that was terrible until the daytime power increase of > 1972). Not sure of the exact chronology of WMEX's power increase, but ISTR mentions of being 50,000W as early as 1969. I have several music surveys from 1971 that refer to the station as a "50,000 W Hitmaker". From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri May 14 10:24:31 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 10:24:31 -0400 Subject: Al Kennedy References: <20100514093719.puu7pwfxesoowck0@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <52DA357D3E584942AE07C8185FFE3782@SatU205S5044> I would scarcely stake my life on it, especially now that two people have pegged the power increase as having taken place during the summer of 1968, but I still think that you've got the wrong year. I worked in Framingham from November '68 until July or August (I'm not certain about the month) '72. I can remember driving down Route 126 in Wayland on my way to work listening to the big baritone voice of TJ Martin (yes, Grace Metalius's lover from Peyton Place) doing AM drive as WMEX tested its new day signal. In Wayland, it was somewhat of an improvement over the old 5 kW, but it still wasn't great--especially during critical hours. I had read that the increase was in the works and I had listened for quite a while in anticipation of it and to get a frame of reference on the signal for comparison before the new DA-D/Tx were switched on. Anyhow, my recollection is that this took place just as I was about to give notice on my job in Framingham, which is how I placed the increase in '72. I suppose that it's possible that it was in '68, but it would have had to be later than October, because I left my previous job in Waltham on October 31 1968 and then immediately started on my new job in Framingham. (I am positive about the dates; 10/31/'68 was the last day of the Waltham company's fiscal year.) ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "=?utf-8?b??=" ; "=?utf-8?b??=" ; "=?utf-8?b??=" Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Al Kennedy >I neglected to mention that outing was in the summer of 1968. -Doug > > > Quoting revdoug1@myfairpoint.net: >> When I was a junior in high school, we had a one-day summer outing >> at Crane's >> Beach in Ipswich. WMEX was doing 50kw at that time, and I (who >> always carried >> my trusty GE portable radio with me) was in seventh heaven. >> Living out near >> Fitchburg, I could never get the station. -D.D. >> >> Quoting Kevin Vahey : >> > WMEX starting testing 50K daytime in the summer of 68. I remember >> > Ron >> > (Polcari) Robin telling Mac that the signal in Manchester was >> > worse. >> > Mac just wanted 50K on the rate cards and coverage maps he sent >> > out. >> > WRKO blindsided Mac as he just assumed he would hold his own as >> > he did >> > with WBZ. >> > On 5/14/10, SteveOrdinetz wrote: >> > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Dan.Strassberg >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> WMEX was owned and managed by people who pinched pennies until >> > >> Lincoln >> > >> howled in pain. The station had antiquated equipment and >> > >> generally >> > >> lousy facilities (and this time, I am not referring just to >> > >> the >> > >> signal, although that was terrible until the daytime power >> > >> increase of >> > >> 1972). >> > > >> > > >> > > Not sure of the exact chronology of WMEX's power increase, but >> ISTR mentions >> > > of being 50,000W as early as 1969. I have several music >> > > surveys >> from 1971 >> > > that refer to the station as a "50,000 W Hitmaker". >> > >> > -- >> > Sent from my mobile device >> > >> >> > > > From kvahey@gmail.com Fri May 14 10:32:50 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 09:32:50 -0500 Subject: Al Kennedy In-Reply-To: <52DA357D3E584942AE07C8185FFE3782@SatU205S5044> References: <20100514093719.puu7pwfxesoowck0@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <52DA357D3E584942AE07C8185FFE3782@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: Dan Mac Richmond was very much alive when they made the jump to 50K and he died in October of 1971. A big part of the problem was the new subway that was built in the late 60's and the office complex that followed. On 5/14/10, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I would scarcely stake my life on it, especially now that two people > have pegged the power increase as having taken place during the summer > of 1968, but I still think that you've got the wrong year. I worked in > Framingham from November '68 until July or August (I'm not certain > about the month) '72. I can remember driving down Route 126 in Wayland > on my way to work listening to the big baritone voice of TJ Martin > (yes, Grace Metalius's lover from Peyton Place) doing AM drive as WMEX > tested its new day signal. In Wayland, it was somewhat of an > improvement over the old 5 kW, but it still wasn't great--especially > during critical hours. I had read that the increase was in the works > and I had listened for quite a while in anticipation of it and to get > a frame of reference on the signal for comparison before the new > DA-D/Tx were switched on. Anyhow, my recollection is that this took > place just as I was about to give notice on my job in Framingham, > which is how I placed the increase in '72. I suppose that it's > possible that it was in '68, but it would have had to be later than > October, because I left my previous job in Waltham on October 31 1968 > and then immediately started on my new job in Framingham. (I am > positive about the dates; 10/31/'68 was the last day of the Waltham > company's fiscal year.) > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "=?utf-8?b??=" ; "=?utf-8?b??=" > ; "=?utf-8?b??=" > > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:37 AM > Subject: Re: Al Kennedy > > >>I neglected to mention that outing was in the summer of 1968. -Doug >> >> >> Quoting revdoug1@myfairpoint.net: >>> When I was a junior in high school, we had a one-day summer outing >>> at Crane's >>> Beach in Ipswich. WMEX was doing 50kw at that time, and I (who >>> always carried >>> my trusty GE portable radio with me) was in seventh heaven. >>> Living out near >>> Fitchburg, I could never get the station. -D.D. >>> >>> Quoting Kevin Vahey : >>> > WMEX starting testing 50K daytime in the summer of 68. I remember >>> > Ron >>> > (Polcari) Robin telling Mac that the signal in Manchester was >>> > worse. >>> > Mac just wanted 50K on the rate cards and coverage maps he sent >>> > out. >>> > WRKO blindsided Mac as he just assumed he would hold his own as >>> > he did >>> > with WBZ. >>> > On 5/14/10, SteveOrdinetz wrote: >>> > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Dan.Strassberg >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > >> WMEX was owned and managed by people who pinched pennies until >>> > >> Lincoln >>> > >> howled in pain. The station had antiquated equipment and >>> > >> generally >>> > >> lousy facilities (and this time, I am not referring just to >>> > >> the >>> > >> signal, although that was terrible until the daytime power >>> > >> increase of >>> > >> 1972). >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Not sure of the exact chronology of WMEX's power increase, but >>> ISTR mentions >>> > > of being 50,000W as early as 1969. I have several music >>> > > surveys >>> from 1971 >>> > > that refer to the station as a "50,000 W Hitmaker". >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Sent from my mobile device >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> > > -- Sent from my mobile device From bill.smith@comcast.net Fri May 14 12:28:35 2010 From: bill.smith@comcast.net (Bill Smith) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 12:28:35 -0400 Subject: Al Kennedy Message-ID: I believe Al Kennedy ended up as the flak for Massachusetts House Speaker Thomas W. McGee. They'd send out a weekly PA show on 3 1/2 inch reels called Beacon Hill Reports on which some obscure rep or another would be "appearing in place of Speaker McGee this week." It was a pain in the neck since you'd have to go start the next element when the obscure rep's 15 minutes of fame (literally) were up, Of course this fact is only remembered by people who had to run the Sunday morning God Squad and public affairs block, since nobody on earth actually listened. Except Ike Cohen, and he listened because he was afraid the Presbyterian Hour LP would start skipping, unnoticed by the person on duty. He rued the day that they stopped coming on transcription discs (but never tossed the transcription machines, which remained part of the Museum of Cooling.) Makes me want to go use spring water to make coffee. From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Fri May 14 12:37:30 2010 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (revdoug1@myfairpoint.net) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 12:37:30 -0400 Subject: Al Kennedy Message-ID: <20100514123730.knl6kxqigik4kw0g@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Dan and Kevin, I will defer to your knowledge of the situation; you know it better than I. I do remember that for a while in the late '60s - early '70s, WMEX (still owned by the Richmonds, I think) adopted the moniker "X15," which I thought was inane. I'm quite sure the station was broadcasting with 50K by the time I was in college (fall' 69). Given that the jump to 50K didn't improve the station's coverage area all that much, what did the Richmonds think they were going to accomplish by going to all that trouble? (I can get 1510 clearly all day up here near Blue Hill, Maine, but I can get 590, 1260, 1300, and 1600 too --- all 5K'ers. And I can remember pulling in WMEX up in the Portland area way back in 1965, long before it amplified its power output.) -Doug Quoting Kevin Vahey : > Dan > > Mac Richmond was very much alive when they made the jump to 50K and he > died in October of 1971. > > A big part of the problem was the new subway that was built in the > late 60's and the office complex that followed. > > On 5/14/10, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > > I would scarcely stake my life on it, especially now that two people > > have pegged the power increase as having taken place during the summer > > of 1968, but I still think that you've got the wrong year. I worked in > > Framingham from November '68 until July or August (I'm not certain > > about the month) '72. I can remember driving down Route 126 in Wayland > > on my way to work listening to the big baritone voice of TJ Martin > > (yes, Grace Metalius's lover from Peyton Place) doing AM drive as WMEX > > tested its new day signal. In Wayland, it was somewhat of an > > improvement over the old 5 kW, but it still wasn't great--especially > > during critical hours. I had read that the increase was in the works > > and I had listened for quite a while in anticipation of it and to get > > a frame of reference on the signal for comparison before the new > > DA-D/Tx were switched on. Anyhow, my recollection is that this took > > place just as I was about to give notice on my job in Framingham, > > which is how I placed the increase in '72. I suppose that it's > > possible that it was in '68, but it would have had to be later than > > October, because I left my previous job in Waltham on October 31 1968 > > and then immediately started on my new job in Framingham. (I am > > positive about the dates; 10/31/'68 was the last day of the Waltham > > company's fiscal year.) > > > > ----- > > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: "=?utf-8?b??=" ; "=?utf-8?b??=" > > ; "=?utf-8?b??=" > > > > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:37 AM > > Subject: Re: Al Kennedy > > > > > >>I neglected to mention that outing was in the summer of 1968. -Doug > >> > >> > >> Quoting revdoug1@myfairpoint.net: > >>> When I was a junior in high school, we had a one-day summer outing > >>> at Crane's > >>> Beach in Ipswich. WMEX was doing 50kw at that time, and I (who > >>> always carried > >>> my trusty GE portable radio with me) was in seventh heaven. > >>> Living out near > >>> Fitchburg, I could never get the station. -D.D. > >>> > >>> Quoting Kevin Vahey : > >>> > WMEX starting testing 50K daytime in the summer of 68. I remember > >>> > Ron > >>> > (Polcari) Robin telling Mac that the signal in Manchester was > >>> > worse. > >>> > Mac just wanted 50K on the rate cards and coverage maps he sent > >>> > out. > >>> > WRKO blindsided Mac as he just assumed he would hold his own as > >>> > he did > >>> > with WBZ. > >>> > On 5/14/10, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > >>> > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Dan.Strassberg > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > >> WMEX was owned and managed by people who pinched pennies until > >>> > >> Lincoln > >>> > >> howled in pain. The station had antiquated equipment and > >>> > >> generally > >>> > >> lousy facilities (and this time, I am not referring just to > >>> > >> the > >>> > >> signal, although that was terrible until the daytime power > >>> > >> increase of > >>> > >> 1972). > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Not sure of the exact chronology of WMEX's power increase, but > >>> ISTR mentions > >>> > > of being 50,000W as early as 1969. I have several music > >>> > > surveys > >>> from 1971 > >>> > > that refer to the station as a "50,000 W Hitmaker". > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Sent from my mobile device > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- Sent from my mobile device > From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Fri May 14 12:44:11 2010 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (revdoug1@myfairpoint.net) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 12:44:11 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio Message-ID: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Just curious: Has Boston ever had what could legitimately be called a long-term ABC Radio affiliate? I'm thinking of all the stations that I think (perhaps mistakenly) have been with ABC at one time or another: WBZ, WRKO, WORL, WHIL, WBOS . . . WBZ has been with the network since the '80s, but did the city ever have an American Contemporary Radio affiliate or a station that really touted its ABC connection prior to that? Did ABC ever express an interest in purchasing a Boston station before buying WEZE (WMKI) for Radio Disney? -Doug From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Fri May 14 12:33:33 2010 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 12:33:33 -0400 Subject: Al Kennedy References: <20100514093719.puu7pwfxesoowck0@webmail.myfairpoint.net><52DA357D3E584942AE07C8185FFE3782@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <080E93F1DB88492B9F770A9A4D4EF841@YOURbcbbe822ed> I worked doing morning news at 'MEX in 1971 for Dick Richmond, right after Mac died, and a GM named Art Simmers. They were quite a pair. I never heard of Simmers again. But I digress. We still didn't have much of a signal (or audience) around Beantown, but I got regular calls from Newfoundland, New Brunswick & PEI. Funny, never on the coverage map Dick Syatt was my intern. They were too cheap to have a news audio service or outside reporter, so we rolled tape on 'EEI and stole actualities. We never got caught because everyone else had them. Occasionally some would have a touch of AM static and heterodyning behind then (In case you forget ( http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=19939 ) Management thought it was a brilliant money saver and had been doing it long before I was there. DON"T BLAME ME! Fun times, silly times. 1972 was better. I went to 'BZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; "Doug Drown" ; ; "SteveOrdinetz" Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:32 AM Subject: Re: Al Kennedy > Dan > > Mac Richmond was very much alive when they made the jump to 50K and he > died in October of 1971. > > A big part of the problem was the new subway that was built in the > late 60's and the office complex that followed. > > On 5/14/10, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >> I would scarcely stake my life on it, especially now that two people >> have pegged the power increase as having taken place during the summer >> of 1968, but I still think that you've got the wrong year. I worked in >> Framingham from November '68 until July or August (I'm not certain >> about the month) '72. I can remember driving down Route 126 in Wayland >> on my way to work listening to the big baritone voice of TJ Martin >> (yes, Grace Metalius's lover from Peyton Place) doing AM drive as WMEX >> tested its new day signal. In Wayland, it was somewhat of an >> improvement over the old 5 kW, but it still wasn't great--especially >> during critical hours. I had read that the increase was in the works >> and I had listened for quite a while in anticipation of it and to get >> a frame of reference on the signal for comparison before the new >> DA-D/Tx were switched on. Anyhow, my recollection is that this took >> place just as I was about to give notice on my job in Framingham, >> which is how I placed the increase in '72. I suppose that it's >> possible that it was in '68, but it would have had to be later than >> October, because I left my previous job in Waltham on October 31 1968 >> and then immediately started on my new job in Framingham. (I am >> positive about the dates; 10/31/'68 was the last day of the Waltham >> company's fiscal year.) >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: "=?utf-8?b??=" ; "=?utf-8?b??=" >> ; "=?utf-8?b??=" >> >> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:37 AM >> Subject: Re: Al Kennedy >> >> >>>I neglected to mention that outing was in the summer of 1968. -Doug >>> >>> >>> Quoting revdoug1@myfairpoint.net: >>>> When I was a junior in high school, we had a one-day summer outing >>>> at Crane's >>>> Beach in Ipswich. WMEX was doing 50kw at that time, and I (who >>>> always carried >>>> my trusty GE portable radio with me) was in seventh heaven. >>>> Living out near >>>> Fitchburg, I could never get the station. -D.D. >>>> >>>> Quoting Kevin Vahey : >>>> > WMEX starting testing 50K daytime in the summer of 68. I remember >>>> > Ron >>>> > (Polcari) Robin telling Mac that the signal in Manchester was >>>> > worse. >>>> > Mac just wanted 50K on the rate cards and coverage maps he sent >>>> > out. >>>> > WRKO blindsided Mac as he just assumed he would hold his own as >>>> > he did >>>> > with WBZ. >>>> > On 5/14/10, SteveOrdinetz wrote: >>>> > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Dan.Strassberg >>>> > > wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > >> WMEX was owned and managed by people who pinched pennies until >>>> > >> Lincoln >>>> > >> howled in pain. The station had antiquated equipment and >>>> > >> generally >>>> > >> lousy facilities (and this time, I am not referring just to >>>> > >> the >>>> > >> signal, although that was terrible until the daytime power >>>> > >> increase of >>>> > >> 1972). >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > Not sure of the exact chronology of WMEX's power increase, but >>>> ISTR mentions >>>> > > of being 50,000W as early as 1969. I have several music >>>> > > surveys >>>> from 1971 >>>> > > that refer to the station as a "50,000 W Hitmaker". >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Sent from my mobile device >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri May 14 13:38:59 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 13:38:59 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <64AE86462B9D4941A168AB5B621B1D28@SatU205S5044> Years before the NBC Blue Network became first a company that was separate from RCA and then renamed itself ABC, WBZ was a Blue Network affiliate. When RCA spun off the Blue Network in 1943 (it was forced to do so by either a law or an FCC regulation that prohibited duopolies), WBZ became Boston's NBC Red Network affiliate. When I first visited Boston in 1947, there were TWO ABC affiliates, both full-time affiliates. The reason this was possible was that one of the stations was licensed to a different city. The ABC affiliate that was licensed to Boston was WCOP 1150. The one with the good signal was WLAW Lawrence on 680. I don't know how long the two-ABC-affiliate situation lasted, but it might well have continued until 1953, when General Tire bought WLAW and moved WNAC 1260 and its Yankee Network/Mutual affiliation to the 50-kW 680 frequency. At that time, 1260, which had been WNAC, was sold to Pennsylvania broadcaster Vic Diehm, who renamed it WVDA (for Vic Diehm Associates). I believe that WVDA continued for a while as Boston's ABC affiliate, but since it was licensed to Boston, either it or WCOP had to drop the ABC affiliation. I didn't arrive in Boston until 1956, so I have no first-hand knowledge of what happened to the network affiliations in 1953. WVDA may still have been an ABC affiliate in 1956; not sure. I don't think WCOP was. Plough Broadcasting from Atlanta, which had bought WCOP, was heavily into Top-40 and Top-40 was not thought to be compatible with network affiliations. Shortly after I arrived in Boston, Diehm sold WVDA to Air Trails of Dayton OH, which renamed the station WEZE. The station kept the WEZE calls though several owners and when Salem bought 590 and moved its Christian preaching/teaching format there, the WEZE calls moved with the format. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "=?utf-8?b??=" Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:44 PM Subject: Boston and ABC Radio > Just curious: Has Boston ever had what could legitimately be called > a long-term ABC Radio affiliate? I'm thinking of all the stations > that I think (perhaps mistakenly) have been with ABC at one time or > another: WBZ, WRKO, WORL, WHIL, WBOS . . . WBZ has been with the > network since the '80s, but did the city ever have an American > Contemporary Radio affiliate or a station that really touted its ABC > connection prior to that? Did ABC ever express an interest in > purchasing a Boston station before buying WEZE (WMKI) for Radio > Disney? > > -Doug > > From theseacoast@maine.rr.com Sat May 15 12:08:11 2010 From: theseacoast@maine.rr.com (The Seacoast) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 12:08:11 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <64AE86462B9D4941A168AB5B621B1D28@SatU205S5044> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <64AE86462B9D4941A168AB5B621B1D28@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: WMEX carried "American Contemporary Radio" news 5 minutes before for a while during some of their "top 40" days. -----Original Message----- From: Dan.Strassberg [mailto:dan.strassberg@att.net] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:39 PM To: Doug Drown; =?utf-8?b??= Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio Years before the NBC Blue Network became first a company that was separate from RCA and then renamed itself ABC, WBZ was a Blue Network affiliate. When RCA spun off the Blue Network in 1943 (it was forced to do so by either a law or an FCC regulation that prohibited duopolies), WBZ became Boston's NBC Red Network affiliate. When I first visited Boston in 1947, there were TWO ABC affiliates, both full-time affiliates. The reason this was possible was that one of the stations was licensed to a different city. The ABC affiliate that was licensed to Boston was WCOP 1150. The one with the good signal was WLAW Lawrence on 680. I don't know how long the two-ABC-affiliate situation lasted, but it might well have continued until 1953, when General Tire bought WLAW and moved WNAC 1260 and its Yankee Network/Mutual affiliation to the 50-kW 680 frequency. At that time, 1260, which had been WNAC, was sold to Pennsylvania broadcaster Vic Diehm, who renamed it WVDA (for Vic Diehm Associates). I believe that WVDA continued for a while as Boston's ABC affiliate, but since it was licensed to Boston, either it or WCOP had to drop the ABC affiliation. I didn't arrive in Boston until 1956, so I have no first-hand knowledge of what happened to the network affiliations in 1953. WVDA may still have been an ABC affiliate in 1956; not sure. I don't think WCOP was. Plough Broadcasting from Atlanta, which had bought WCOP, was heavily into Top-40 and Top-40 was not thought to be compatible with network affiliations. Shortly after I arrived in Boston, Diehm sold WVDA to Air Trails of Dayton OH, which renamed the station WEZE. The station kept the WEZE calls though several owners and when Salem bought 590 and moved its Christian preaching/teaching format there, the WEZE calls moved with the format. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "=?utf-8?b??=" Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:44 PM Subject: Boston and ABC Radio > Just curious: Has Boston ever had what could legitimately be called > a long-term ABC Radio affiliate? I'm thinking of all the stations > that I think (perhaps mistakenly) have been with ABC at one time or > another: WBZ, WRKO, WORL, WHIL, WBOS . . . WBZ has been with the > network since the '80s, but did the city ever have an American > Contemporary Radio affiliate or a station that really touted its ABC > connection prior to that? Did ABC ever express an interest in > purchasing a Boston station before buying WEZE (WMKI) for Radio > Disney? > > -Doug > > From theseacoast@maine.rr.com Sat May 15 12:10:40 2010 From: theseacoast@maine.rr.com (The Seacoast) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 12:10:40 -0400 Subject: Al Kennedy In-Reply-To: <20100514123730.knl6kxqigik4kw0g@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20100514123730.knl6kxqigik4kw0g@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <9FB95D642D644DEC89340A275E9726BC@vpr1> Now I remember the "X-15" (Is my radio station) during 1975. SS -----Original Message----- From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net [mailto:revdoug1@myfairpoint.net] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:38 PM To: Dan.Strassberg; Doug Drown; =?utf-8?b??=; SteveOrdinetz; Kevin Vahey Subject: Re: Al Kennedy Dan and Kevin, I will defer to your knowledge of the situation; you know it better than I. I do remember that for a while in the late '60s - early '70s, WMEX (still owned by the Richmonds, I think) adopted the moniker "X15," which I thought was inane. I'm quite sure the station was broadcasting with 50K by the time I was in college (fall' 69). Given that the jump to 50K didn't improve the station's coverage area all that much, what did the Richmonds think they were going to accomplish by going to all that trouble? (I can get 1510 clearly all day up here near Blue Hill, Maine, but I can get 590, 1260, 1300, and 1600 too --- all 5K'ers. And I can remember pulling in WMEX up in the Portland area way back in 1965, long before it amplified its power output.) -Doug Quoting Kevin Vahey : > Dan > > Mac Richmond was very much alive when they made the jump to 50K and he > died in October of 1971. > > A big part of the problem was the new subway that was built in the > late 60's and the office complex that followed. > > On 5/14/10, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > > I would scarcely stake my life on it, especially now that two people > > have pegged the power increase as having taken place during the > > summer of 1968, but I still think that you've got the wrong year. I > > worked in Framingham from November '68 until July or August (I'm not > > certain about the month) '72. I can remember driving down Route 126 > > in Wayland on my way to work listening to the big baritone voice of > > TJ Martin (yes, Grace Metalius's lover from Peyton Place) doing AM > > drive as WMEX tested its new day signal. In Wayland, it was somewhat > > of an improvement over the old 5 kW, but it still wasn't > > great--especially during critical hours. I had read that the > > increase was in the works and I had listened for quite a while in > > anticipation of it and to get a frame of reference on the signal for > > comparison before the new DA-D/Tx were switched on. Anyhow, my > > recollection is that this took place just as I was about to give > > notice on my job in Framingham, which is how I placed the increase > > in '72. I suppose that it's possible that it was in '68, but it > > would have had to be later than October, because I left my previous > > job in Waltham on October 31 1968 and then immediately started on my > > new job in Framingham. (I am positive about the dates; 10/31/'68 was > > the last day of the Waltham company's fiscal year.) > > > > ----- > > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: "=?utf-8?b??=" ; "=?utf-8?b??=" > > ; "=?utf-8?b??=" > > > > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:37 AM > > Subject: Re: Al Kennedy > > > > > >>I neglected to mention that outing was in the summer of 1968. -Doug > >> > >> > >> Quoting revdoug1@myfairpoint.net: > >>> When I was a junior in high school, we had a one-day summer outing > >>> at Crane's Beach in Ipswich. WMEX was doing 50kw at that time, > >>> and I (who always carried my trusty GE portable radio with me) was > >>> in seventh heaven. > >>> Living out near > >>> Fitchburg, I could never get the station. -D.D. > >>> > >>> Quoting Kevin Vahey : > >>> > WMEX starting testing 50K daytime in the summer of 68. I > >>> > remember Ron > >>> > (Polcari) Robin telling Mac that the signal in Manchester was > >>> > worse. > >>> > Mac just wanted 50K on the rate cards and coverage maps he sent > >>> > out. > >>> > WRKO blindsided Mac as he just assumed he would hold his own as > >>> > he did with WBZ. > >>> > On 5/14/10, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > >>> > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Dan.Strassberg > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > >> WMEX was owned and managed by people who pinched pennies > >>> > >> until Lincoln howled in pain. The station had antiquated > >>> > >> equipment and generally lousy facilities (and this time, I am > >>> > >> not referring just to the signal, although that was terrible > >>> > >> until the daytime power increase of 1972). > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Not sure of the exact chronology of WMEX's power increase, but > >>> ISTR mentions > >>> > > of being 50,000W as early as 1969. I have several music > >>> > > surveys > >>> from 1971 > >>> > > that refer to the station as a "50,000 W Hitmaker". > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Sent from my mobile device > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- Sent from my mobile device > From joe@attorneyross.com Sat May 15 13:54:02 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 13:54:02 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <64AE86462B9D4941A168AB5B621B1D28@SatU205S5044> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <64AE86462B9D4941A168AB5B621B1D28@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com> On 14 May 2010 at 13:38, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I didn't arrive in Boston until 1956, so I have no first-hand > knowledge of what happened to the network affiliations in 1953. WVDA > may still have been an ABC affiliate in 1956; not sure. I don't think > WCOP was. Plough Broadcasting from Atlanta, which had bought WCOP, was > heavily into Top-40 and Top-40 was not thought to be compatible with > network affiliations. Shortly after I arrived in Boston, Diehm sold > WVDA to Air Trails of Dayton OH, which renamed the station WEZE. The > station kept the WEZE calls though several owners and when Salem > bought 590 and moved its Christian preaching/teaching format there, > the WEZE calls moved with the format. My family moved back to the Boston area from Albany in May 1957. At that time WCOP was doing Top 40, without a network affiliation, and WVDA was the ABC affiliate. At some point after the call-letters change to WEZE, it became an NBC affiliate. ABC moved to WTAO for awhile, into the early 1960s. Since WTAO was a daytimer, some ABC programs in the evening occasionally were carried on co-owned WXHR. Very occasionally. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From paul@derrynh.net Sat May 15 14:47:23 2010 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:47:23 -0400 Subject: Al Kennedy In-Reply-To: <9FB95D642D644DEC89340A275E9726BC@vpr1> References: <20100514123730.knl6kxqigik4kw0g@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <9FB95D642D644DEC89340A275E9726BC@vpr1> Message-ID: I recall they were tagged as the X-15 Air Force (which made a bit more sence than just X-15) I want to say it was at least 1972 as I had moved in Feb 72 and recall not really listening to WMEX as much before then (more an RKO guy pre Feb 72) I was a WMEX listener at that time (King Authur Knight, etc) -Paul Hopfgarten Concord NH ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Seacoast" To: ; "'Dan.Strassberg'" ; "''" ; "'SteveOrdinetz'" ; "'Kevin Vahey'" Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:10 PM Subject: RE: Al Kennedy > Now I remember the "X-15" (Is my radio station) during 1975. > > > SS > > -----Original Message----- > From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net [mailto:revdoug1@myfairpoint.net] > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:38 PM > To: Dan.Strassberg; Doug Drown; =?utf-8?b??=; SteveOrdinetz; Kevin Vahey > Subject: Re: Al Kennedy > > Dan and Kevin, > I will defer to your knowledge of the situation; you know it better than > I. > I do remember that for a while in the late '60s - early '70s, WMEX (still > owned by the Richmonds, I think) adopted the moniker "X15," > which I thought was inane. I'm quite sure the station was broadcasting > with > 50K by the time I was in college (fall' 69). > > Given that the jump to 50K didn't improve the station's coverage area all > that much, what did the Richmonds think they were going to > accomplish by going to all that trouble? (I can get 1510 clearly all > day up here near Blue Hill, Maine, but I can get 590, 1260, 1300, and 1600 > too --- all 5K'ers. And I can remember pulling in WMEX up in the Portland > area way back in 1965, long before it amplified its power > output.) > > -Doug > > > > Quoting Kevin Vahey : >> Dan >> >> Mac Richmond was very much alive when they made the jump to 50K and he >> died in October of 1971. >> >> A big part of the problem was the new subway that was built in the >> late 60's and the office complex that followed. >> >> On 5/14/10, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >> > I would scarcely stake my life on it, especially now that two people >> > have pegged the power increase as having taken place during the >> > summer of 1968, but I still think that you've got the wrong year. I >> > worked in Framingham from November '68 until July or August (I'm not >> > certain about the month) '72. I can remember driving down Route 126 >> > in Wayland on my way to work listening to the big baritone voice of >> > TJ Martin (yes, Grace Metalius's lover from Peyton Place) doing AM >> > drive as WMEX tested its new day signal. In Wayland, it was somewhat >> > of an improvement over the old 5 kW, but it still wasn't >> > great--especially during critical hours. I had read that the >> > increase was in the works and I had listened for quite a while in >> > anticipation of it and to get a frame of reference on the signal for >> > comparison before the new DA-D/Tx were switched on. Anyhow, my >> > recollection is that this took place just as I was about to give >> > notice on my job in Framingham, which is how I placed the increase >> > in '72. I suppose that it's possible that it was in '68, but it >> > would have had to be later than October, because I left my previous >> > job in Waltham on October 31 1968 and then immediately started on my >> > new job in Framingham. (I am positive about the dates; 10/31/'68 was >> > the last day of the Waltham company's fiscal year.) >> > >> > ----- >> > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: >> > To: "=?utf-8?b??=" ; "=?utf-8?b??=" >> > ; "=?utf-8?b??=" >> > >> > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:37 AM >> > Subject: Re: Al Kennedy >> > >> > >> >>I neglected to mention that outing was in the summer of 1968. -Doug >> >> >> >> >> >> Quoting revdoug1@myfairpoint.net: >> >>> When I was a junior in high school, we had a one-day summer outing >> >>> at Crane's Beach in Ipswich. WMEX was doing 50kw at that time, >> >>> and I (who always carried my trusty GE portable radio with me) was >> >>> in seventh heaven. >> >>> Living out near >> >>> Fitchburg, I could never get the station. -D.D. >> >>> >> >>> Quoting Kevin Vahey : >> >>> > WMEX starting testing 50K daytime in the summer of 68. I >> >>> > remember Ron >> >>> > (Polcari) Robin telling Mac that the signal in Manchester was >> >>> > worse. >> >>> > Mac just wanted 50K on the rate cards and coverage maps he sent >> >>> > out. >> >>> > WRKO blindsided Mac as he just assumed he would hold his own as >> >>> > he did with WBZ. >> >>> > On 5/14/10, SteveOrdinetz wrote: >> >>> > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Dan.Strassberg >> >>> > > wrote: >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> WMEX was owned and managed by people who pinched pennies >> >>> > >> until Lincoln howled in pain. The station had antiquated >> >>> > >> equipment and generally lousy facilities (and this time, I am >> >>> > >> not referring just to the signal, although that was terrible >> >>> > >> until the daytime power increase of 1972). >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Not sure of the exact chronology of WMEX's power increase, but >> >>> ISTR mentions >> >>> > > of being 50,000W as early as 1969. I have several music >> >>> > > surveys >> >>> from 1971 >> >>> > > that refer to the station as a "50,000 W Hitmaker". >> >>> > >> >>> > -- >> >>> > Sent from my mobile device >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> -- Sent from my mobile device >> > > > > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat May 15 17:31:17 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 17:31:17 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <64AE86462B9D4941A168AB5B621B1D28@SatU205S5044> <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> Joe Ross wrote-- >My family moved back to the Boston area from Albany in May 1957. At >that time WCOP was doing Top 40, without a network affiliation, That's interesting, because when NBC Blue morphed into the Blue Network, in January 1942, WCOP was an affiliate, according to the newspapers. As you undoubtedly know, the Blue Network was officially re-named the American Broadcasting Company on 15 June 1945-- network executives of the Blue Network filed for the name change in late October 1944 but approval didn't come till a few months later.) In 1948, WCOP was still the ABC affiliate in Boston. From aerie.ma@comcast.net Sat May 15 18:49:51 2010 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 18:49:51 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <64AE86462B9D4941A168AB5B621B1D28@SatU205S5044> <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <118BAFEF9EC64B9498E0B3AC75ECF060@aeriema> WORL (now WROL) 950 was also an ABC affiliate at least for news at some point back then. I don't remember when ABC Radio decided to split their newscasts into four separate feeds targeted to different station formats, but that may be why people are remembering so many stations as having been ABC affiliates in the same time frame. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of A. Joseph Ross Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 1:54 PM To: Dan.Strassberg Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio On 14 May 2010 at 13:38, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I didn't arrive in Boston until 1956, so I have no first-hand > knowledge of what happened to the network affiliations in 1953. WVDA > may still have been an ABC affiliate in 1956; not sure. I don't think > WCOP was. Plough Broadcasting from Atlanta, which had bought WCOP, was > heavily into Top-40 and Top-40 was not thought to be compatible with > network affiliations. Shortly after I arrived in Boston, Diehm sold > WVDA to Air Trails of Dayton OH, which renamed the station WEZE. The > station kept the WEZE calls though several owners and when Salem > bought 590 and moved its Christian preaching/teaching format there, > the WEZE calls moved with the format. My family moved back to the Boston area from Albany in May 1957. At that time WCOP was doing Top 40, without a network affiliation, and WVDA was the ABC affiliate. At some point after the call-letters change to WEZE, it became an NBC affiliate. ABC moved to WTAO for awhile, into the early 1960s. Since WTAO was a daytimer, some ABC programs in the evening occasionally were carried on co-owned WXHR. Very occasionally. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat May 15 19:14:36 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 19:14:36 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <118BAFEF9EC64B9498E0B3AC75ECF060@aeriema> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <64AE86462B9D4941A168AB5B621B1D28@SatU205S5044> <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com> <118BAFEF9EC64B9498E0B3AC75ECF060@aeriema> Message-ID: <20100515231445.190611B4012@relay15.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 06:49 PM 5/15/2010, Jim Hall wrote: >WORL (now WROL) 950 was also an ABC affiliate at least for news at some >point back then. In the mid 1950s, WVDA listed itself as an ABC station (and it was also listed on the ABC map of affiliates in the Radio/TV Annual. After WVDA was sold in 1957, the next affiliate listed in the late 50s was WTAO. From sid@wrko.com Sat May 15 19:26:42 2010 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 19:26:42 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <118BAFEF9EC64B9498E0B3AC75ECF060@aeriema> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <64AE86462B9D4941A168AB5B621B1D28@SatU205S5044> <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com>, <118BAFEF9EC64B9498E0B3AC75ECF060@aeriema> Message-ID: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC553E421C65@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> "I don't remember when ABC Radio decided to split their newscasts into four separate feeds targeted to different station formats..." January 1, 1968. This link is to audio of the last ABC Radio newscast, anchored by Don Baker, whose last story was about the four-network split and who officially "retired" the old ABC Radio News sounder (Real Player required): http://user.pa.net/~ejjeff/lastabc.ram Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat May 15 22:52:58 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 22:52:58 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <64AE86462B9D4941A168AB5B621B1D28@SatU205S5044> <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com> <118BAFEF9EC64B9498E0B3AC75ECF060@aeriema> <20100515231445.190611B4012@relay15.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <6EB816BB0EEB4AB6B9BFF4C9BE5EA67B@SatU205S5044> Considering that the rule that caused NBC to have to spin off the Blue Network made it illegal for one company to own multiple networks that OPERATED SIMULTANEOUSLY, ABC's decision to split its feed four ways was a stroke of pure genius! There was no simultaneous transmission; IIRC, the TOH feed continued and new feeds were initiated at ;25, :30, and :55. That left the periods from :05 to :25 and :35 to :55 free for transmission of specialty programming and ABC did use some of that time to transmit additional content, which most stations that used it aired after various delays. IIRC, the name of the network whose feeds came at :55 was American Contemporary. I can't recall the names of the other three networks. Also, the seven-note sounder heard in the final broadcast had a lyric that was sometimes used: "It's always live and lively." ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Jim Hall" ; "'Dan.Strassberg'" Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 7:14 PM Subject: RE: Boston and ABC Radio > At 06:49 PM 5/15/2010, Jim Hall wrote: >>WORL (now WROL) 950 was also an ABC affiliate at least for news at >>some >>point back then. > > In the mid 1950s, WVDA listed itself as an ABC station (and it was > also listed on the ABC map of affiliates in the Radio/TV Annual. > After WVDA was sold in 1957, the next affiliate listed in the late > 50s was WTAO. From sid@wrko.com Sat May 15 23:11:53 2010 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 23:11:53 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <6EB816BB0EEB4AB6B9BFF4C9BE5EA67B@SatU205S5044> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <64AE86462B9D4941A168AB5B621B1D28@SatU205S5044> <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com> <118BAFEF9EC64B9498E0B3AC75ECF060@aeriema> <20100515231445.190611B4012@relay15.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <6EB816BB0EEB4AB6B9BFF4C9BE5EA67B@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC553EC2CF23@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> "Considering that the rule that caused NBC to have to spin off the Blue Network made it illegal for one company to own multiple networks that OPERATED SIMULTANEOUSLY, ABC's decision to split its feed four ways was a stroke of pure genius! There was no simultaneous transmission;" ABC requested and received a ruling from the FCC that the four-network setup would not violate the "chain-broadcasting" rules under which NBC was ordered to divest one of its networks, since the network feeds used one circuit and would not air simultaneously. "IIRC, the TOH feed continued and new feeds were initiated at ;25, :30, and :55." Not quite. As a vacation-relief engineer for ABC Radio in the 1970's, I remember the schedule as if it were yesterday (and still have a copy of a daily program log from that era): :00 American Information Radio main newscast (15 minutes at 6AM, 11AM and 6PM ET, otherwise 5 minutes) :06 American Information Radio features (mostly sports) :15 American FM Radio main newscast (5 minutes) :25 American Contemporary Radio features (Howard Cosell "Speaking of Sports," 3.5 minutes at 8:25 AM and 5:25 PM ET) :30 American Entertainment Radio main newscast (5 minutes, preempted for Paul Harvey News & Comment at 8:30 AM [5 minutes] and 12:30 PM ET [15 minutes]) :36 American Entertainment Radio features :50:30 American Contemporary Radio News-In-Brief (1.5 minutes) :54:30 American Contemporary Radio main newscast (5 minutes) Long-form programming was fed overnights or weekends. The ABC Direction network was added in 1982, long after I had left. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From markwa1ion@aol.com Sun May 16 00:02:58 2010 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 00:02:58 -0400 Subject: WMEX (was Al Kennedy) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCC2C3CE2C61B5-2FE0-D28F@Webmail-d109.sysops.aol.com> Ted Larsen wrote: << I worked doing morning news at 'MEX in 1971 for Dick Richmond, right after Mac died, and a GM named Art Simmers. They were quite a pair. I never heard of Simmers again. But I digress. We still didn't have much of a signal (or audience) around Beantown, but I got regular calls from Newfoundland, New Brunswick & PEI. Funny, never on the coverage map >> I had no problem hearing WMEX-1510, still at the N. Quincy transmitter site, in 1977 from Ireland on a Realistic TRF portable with no external antennas. Based on what I've heard recently from a GlobalTuners web-based receiver in Ilfracombe in southwestern England, 50 kW from Waltham is about equally effective to 5 kW night out of Quincy in the old days. So the more inland site takes about 10 times as much juice to raise a comparable signal on the other side of the pond. Pretty sure 1969 is when WMEX went 50 kW days. Three ham radio buddies of mine - Tim Smith (WA1HLR), Chuck O'Neal (WA1EKV later K1KW), and Chris Leary (WA1KTZ) - were all in college at the time and they did summer engineering assignments at the N. Quincy transmitter site in 1969, 1970, and 1971: the days when WMEX tried skewing a bit towards album rock with Cousin Duffy and John H. Garabedian coming up with programming to counter the surging popularity of WBCN-FM. A few times in the summer of 1970 after classes at Northeastern, I took the Red Line down to N. Quincy to have pizza and a few liquid refreshments with my friends at WMEX. The 50 kW day rig was definitely in service by then. When I was over at W. Dennis Beach on the Cape in August of 1969 and a generally-forgotten song "Sugar on Sunday" by the Clique was out, I noted a better WMEX signal so they must have had the rig on by then. Previous summers on the Cape you could make out the New London, CT station (WNLC) under WMEX during the day. Though the night 5 kW signal, as noted, boomed in Maine and the Maritimes, it was "dog meat" on the Cape with Buffalo slopping it from 1520, Washington from 1500, and even co-channel Nashville (WLAC) jumping into the fray. 5 kW WMEX didn't cut the mustard more than 20 miles southeast of Quincy at night. Coming up Route 3, they didn't get to entertainment quality until about Norwell. Waltham with 50 at night does do a bit better southeast, though still no match for 680 (or for that matter 5 kW 590 which is super on the South Shore and decent on the Cape). Mark Connelly, WA1ION Billerica, MA + South Yarmouth, MA From joe@attorneyross.com Sun May 16 01:42:26 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 01:42:26 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com>, <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4BEF85C2.24617.855DC8@joe.attorneyross.com> On 15 May 2010 at 17:31, Donna Halper wrote: > That's interesting, because when NBC Blue morphed into the Blue > Network, in January 1942, WCOP was an affiliate, according to the > newspapers. As you undoubtedly know, the Blue Network was officially > re-named the American Broadcasting Company on 15 June 1945-- network > executives of the Blue Network filed for the name change in late > October 1944 but approval didn't come till a few months later.) In > 1948, WCOP was still the ABC affiliate in Boston. Yes, but by 1957, WCOP was Top 40 and WVDA was ABC. I wonder whether WVDA picked up the ABC affiliation from WLAW when that changeover took place. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sun May 16 01:42:27 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 01:42:27 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC553E421C65@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <118BAFEF9EC64B9498E0B3AC75ECF060@aeriema>, <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC553E421C65@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <4BEF85C3.32503.855F4F@joe.attorneyross.com> On 15 May 2010 at 19:26, Sid Schweiger wrote: > January 1, 1968. This link is to audio of the last ABC Radio > newscast, anchored by Don Baker, whose last story was about the > four-network split and who officially "retired" the old ABC Radio News > sounder (Real Player required): That sounds right. I started law school at BU in fall 1967, and I discovered "Broadcasting" magazine in the Mugar Library. And I remember reading about the split around that time. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sun May 16 01:42:26 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 01:42:26 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC553EC2CF23@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <6EB816BB0EEB4AB6B9BFF4C9BE5EA67B@SatU205S5044>, <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC553EC2CF23@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <4BEF85C2.12359.855CA0@joe.attorneyross.com> On 15 May 2010 at 23:11, Sid Schweiger wrote: > ABC requested and received a ruling from the FCC that the four-network > setup would not violate the "chain-broadcasting" rules under which NBC > was ordered to divest one of its networks, since the network feeds > used one circuit and would not air simultaneously. I believe they actually needed a waiver because there was one exception to the non-simultaneous feed: Don McNeill's Breakfast Club, which ran for an hour or more and required simultaneous feeds for its duration. When did ABC discontinue the multiple feeds? Or do they still have them? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun May 16 11:27:23 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 11:27:23 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com>, <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> <4BEF85C2.24617.855DC8@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: I believe that is what happened but I have no proof. For sure, the Yankee/Mutual affiliation stayed with WNAC when WNAC moved from 1260 to 680. WVDA was cobbled together from the old WNAC 1260 transmitter in Milton and/or Quincy and the Boston studios of the old WLAW 680, whose main studio was in Lawrence, the CoL. I believe that WLAW originated more programming from Boston than it did from it's "main" studio in Lawrence. The WVDA studios (which had been the WLAW Boston studios) were in a well-known Boston hotel, whose name I keep forgetting. That hotel had previously been the site of WBZ's studios and also the studios of WBOS (not just the FM station but also WBOS (AM) 1600, which became WUNR many decades ago). It makes sense that when 680 became WNAC, the ABC affiliation would have moved from 680 to 1260 (WVDA), because both WLAW and WCOP had been ABC affiliates (something that was possible because WLAW was officially not a Boston station despite having the market's second best signal in Boston) and Plough Inc, WCOP's new owner, did not want WCOP to continue its network affiliation. Despite a 5-kW signal that was inferior downtown and elsewhere to 680's 50-kW, WCOP had been the "real" Boston ABC affiliate for several years before Plough bought it. I think it was established many years ago on this list that, even though three or four stations had maintained studios in the same Boston hotel at various times, they did not all occupy the same space at different times. Indeed, there was probably a time when that hotel was home to at least two unrelated radio stations at the same time. Somebody, please supply the hotel name so I can say, "Oh, yeah." (Wasn't it on Stuart St? It was neither the Parker House nor the Touraine, IIRC.) Thanks. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Donna Halper" Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio > I wonder whether > WVDA picked up the ABC affiliation from WLAW when that changeover > took place. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From gary@garysicecream.com Sun May 16 12:06:30 2010 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 12:06:30 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com>, <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> <4BEF85C2.24617.855DC8@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <002a01caf511$bfdde540$3f99afc0$@com> The Bradford Hotel -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:27 AM To: A. Joseph Ross Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio I believe that is what happened but I have no proof. For sure, the Yankee/Mutual affiliation stayed with WNAC when WNAC moved from 1260 to 680. WVDA was cobbled together from the old WNAC 1260 transmitter in Milton and/or Quincy and the Boston studios of the old WLAW 680, whose main studio was in Lawrence, the CoL. I believe that WLAW originated more programming from Boston than it did from it's "main" studio in Lawrence. The WVDA studios (which had been the WLAW Boston studios) were in a well-known Boston hotel, whose name I keep forgetting. That hotel had previously been the site of WBZ's studios and also the studios of WBOS (not just the FM station but also WBOS (AM) 1600, which became WUNR many decades ago). It makes sense that when 680 became WNAC, the ABC affiliation would have moved from 680 to 1260 (WVDA), because both WLAW and WCOP had been ABC affiliates (something that was possible because WLAW was officially not a Boston station despite having the market's second best signal in Boston) and Plough Inc, WCOP's new owner, did not want WCOP to continue its network affiliation. Despite a 5-kW signal that was inferior downtown and elsewhere to 680's 50-kW, WCOP had been the "real" Boston ABC affiliate for several years before Plough bought it. I think it was established many years ago on this list that, even though three or four stations had maintained studios in the same Boston hotel at various times, they did not all occupy the same space at different times. Indeed, there was probably a time when that hotel was home to at least two unrelated radio stations at the same time. Somebody, please supply the hotel name so I can say, "Oh, yeah." (Wasn't it on Stuart St? It was neither the Parker House nor the Touraine, IIRC.) Thanks. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Donna Halper" Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio > I wonder whether > WVDA picked up the ABC affiliation from WLAW when that changeover > took place. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Sun May 16 13:04:06 2010 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 13:04:06 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com>, <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com><4BEF85C2.24617.855DC8@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <51EDB4EA61CC4574825668780261F577@YOURbcbbe822ed> I remember that the Hotel Bradford had previously been the site of WBZ's studios. And the Hotel Kimball in Springfield for WBZA...now luxury condos with an impressive foyer. http://www.kimballtowers.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "A. Joseph Ross" Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio >I believe that is what happened but I have no proof. For sure, the > Yankee/Mutual affiliation stayed with WNAC when WNAC moved from 1260 > to 680. WVDA was cobbled together from the old WNAC 1260 transmitter > in Milton and/or Quincy and the Boston studios of the old WLAW 680, > whose main studio was in Lawrence, the CoL. I believe that WLAW > originated more programming from Boston than it did from it's "main" > studio in Lawrence. The WVDA studios (which had been the WLAW Boston > studios) were in a well-known Boston hotel, whose name I keep > forgetting. That hotel had previously been the site of WBZ's studios > and also the studios of WBOS (not just the FM station but also WBOS > (AM) 1600, which became WUNR many decades ago). > > It makes sense that when 680 became WNAC, the ABC affiliation would > have moved from 680 to 1260 (WVDA), because both WLAW and WCOP had > been ABC affiliates (something that was possible because WLAW was > officially not a Boston station despite having the market's second > best signal in Boston) and Plough Inc, WCOP's new owner, did not want > WCOP to continue its network affiliation. Despite a 5-kW signal that > was inferior downtown and elsewhere to 680's 50-kW, WCOP had been the > "real" Boston ABC affiliate for several years before Plough bought it. > > I think it was established many years ago on this list that, even > though three or four stations had maintained studios in the same > Boston hotel at various times, they did not all occupy the same space > at different times. Indeed, there was probably a time when that hotel > was home to at least two unrelated radio stations at the same time. > Somebody, please supply the hotel name so I can say, "Oh, yeah." > (Wasn't it on Stuart St? It was neither the Parker House nor the > Touraine, IIRC.) Thanks. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: "Donna Halper" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:42 AM > Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio > >> I wonder whether >> WVDA picked up the ABC affiliation from WLAW when that changeover >> took place. >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 >> Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun May 16 14:33:30 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 14:33:30 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com>, <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com><4BEF85C2.24617.855DC8@joe.attorneyross.com> <51EDB4EA61CC4574825668780261F577@YOURbcbbe822ed> Message-ID: <2B50A2AE5C26454E81FB62C12CE3EFA9@SatU205S5044> I find the lobby a little creepy--like suddenly, it's 1914 again. Do you suppose that the residents are aware that Woodrow Wilson is no longer president. The prices on the units are unblievable, though. A 1-bedroom unit for under $40,000. An equivalent condo in Manhattan would be over $1 million! However, I wonder what the odds are of being able to get to your car in that huge lot (visible through the window of one of the units) without being mugged. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Larsen" To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; "A. Joseph Ross" Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:04 PM Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio >I remember that the Hotel Bradford had previously been the site of >WBZ's studios. > > And the Hotel Kimball in Springfield for WBZA...now luxury condos > with an impressive foyer. > > http://www.kimballtowers.com/ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan.Strassberg" > To: "A. Joseph Ross" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio > > >>I believe that is what happened but I have no proof. For sure, the >> Yankee/Mutual affiliation stayed with WNAC when WNAC moved from >> 1260 >> to 680. WVDA was cobbled together from the old WNAC 1260 >> transmitter >> in Milton and/or Quincy and the Boston studios of the old WLAW 680, >> whose main studio was in Lawrence, the CoL. I believe that WLAW >> originated more programming from Boston than it did from it's >> "main" >> studio in Lawrence. The WVDA studios (which had been the WLAW >> Boston >> studios) were in a well-known Boston hotel, whose name I keep >> forgetting. That hotel had previously been the site of WBZ's >> studios >> and also the studios of WBOS (not just the FM station but also WBOS >> (AM) 1600, which became WUNR many decades ago). >> >> It makes sense that when 680 became WNAC, the ABC affiliation would >> have moved from 680 to 1260 (WVDA), because both WLAW and WCOP had >> been ABC affiliates (something that was possible because WLAW was >> officially not a Boston station despite having the market's second >> best signal in Boston) and Plough Inc, WCOP's new owner, did not >> want >> WCOP to continue its network affiliation. Despite a 5-kW signal >> that >> was inferior downtown and elsewhere to 680's 50-kW, WCOP had been >> the >> "real" Boston ABC affiliate for several years before Plough bought >> it. >> >> I think it was established many years ago on this list that, even >> though three or four stations had maintained studios in the same >> Boston hotel at various times, they did not all occupy the same >> space >> at different times. Indeed, there was probably a time when that >> hotel >> was home to at least two unrelated radio stations at the same time. >> Somebody, please supply the hotel name so I can say, "Oh, yeah." >> (Wasn't it on Stuart St? It was neither the Parker House nor the >> Touraine, IIRC.) Thanks. >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "A. Joseph Ross" >> To: "Donna Halper" >> Cc: >> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:42 AM >> Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio >> >>> I wonder whether >>> WVDA picked up the ABC affiliation from WLAW when that changeover >>> took place. >>> >>> -- >>> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >>> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 >>> Boston, MA 02109-2004 >>> http://www.attorneyross.com >>> >>> >> >> >> > From gary@garysicecream.com Sun May 16 14:47:03 2010 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 14:47:03 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <2B50A2AE5C26454E81FB62C12CE3EFA9@SatU205S5044> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com>, <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com><4BEF85C2.24617.855DC8@joe.attorneyross.com> <51EDB4EA61CC4574825668780261F577@YOURbcbbe822ed> <2B50A2AE5C26454E81FB62C12CE3EFA9@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <004101caf528$2da5ad90$88f108b0$@com> I'm expecting to see ghosts in 1920s attire floating down the hallway. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 2:34 PM To: Ted Larsen; A. Joseph Ross Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio I find the lobby a little creepy--like suddenly, it's 1914 again. Do you suppose that the residents are aware that Woodrow Wilson is no longer president. The prices on the units are unblievable, though. A 1-bedroom unit for under $40,000. An equivalent condo in Manhattan would be over $1 million! However, I wonder what the odds are of being able to get to your car in that huge lot (visible through the window of one of the units) without being mugged. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Larsen" To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; "A. Joseph Ross" Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:04 PM Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio >I remember that the Hotel Bradford had previously been the site of >WBZ's studios. > > And the Hotel Kimball in Springfield for WBZA...now luxury condos > with an impressive foyer. > > http://www.kimballtowers.com/ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan.Strassberg" > To: "A. Joseph Ross" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio > > >>I believe that is what happened but I have no proof. For sure, the >> Yankee/Mutual affiliation stayed with WNAC when WNAC moved from >> 1260 >> to 680. WVDA was cobbled together from the old WNAC 1260 >> transmitter >> in Milton and/or Quincy and the Boston studios of the old WLAW 680, >> whose main studio was in Lawrence, the CoL. I believe that WLAW >> originated more programming from Boston than it did from it's >> "main" >> studio in Lawrence. The WVDA studios (which had been the WLAW >> Boston >> studios) were in a well-known Boston hotel, whose name I keep >> forgetting. That hotel had previously been the site of WBZ's >> studios >> and also the studios of WBOS (not just the FM station but also WBOS >> (AM) 1600, which became WUNR many decades ago). >> >> It makes sense that when 680 became WNAC, the ABC affiliation would >> have moved from 680 to 1260 (WVDA), because both WLAW and WCOP had >> been ABC affiliates (something that was possible because WLAW was >> officially not a Boston station despite having the market's second >> best signal in Boston) and Plough Inc, WCOP's new owner, did not >> want >> WCOP to continue its network affiliation. Despite a 5-kW signal >> that >> was inferior downtown and elsewhere to 680's 50-kW, WCOP had been >> the >> "real" Boston ABC affiliate for several years before Plough bought >> it. >> >> I think it was established many years ago on this list that, even >> though three or four stations had maintained studios in the same >> Boston hotel at various times, they did not all occupy the same >> space >> at different times. Indeed, there was probably a time when that >> hotel >> was home to at least two unrelated radio stations at the same time. >> Somebody, please supply the hotel name so I can say, "Oh, yeah." >> (Wasn't it on Stuart St? It was neither the Parker House nor the >> Touraine, IIRC.) Thanks. >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "A. Joseph Ross" >> To: "Donna Halper" >> Cc: >> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:42 AM >> Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio >> >>> I wonder whether >>> WVDA picked up the ABC affiliation from WLAW when that changeover >>> took place. >>> >>> -- >>> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >>> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 >>> Boston, MA 02109-2004 >>> http://www.attorneyross.com >>> >>> >> >> >> > From aerie.ma@comcast.net Sun May 16 16:12:36 2010 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:12:36 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com>, <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com><4BEF85C2.24617.855DC8@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <0070A490631C4A3AB1A12C16069E76C7@aeriema> I know that WEZE studios were in the office building section of what was then the "Statler Hilton" in Park Square (now known as the Boston Park Plaza). These were the studios right on the street on the first floor with a big curved plate glass window (St. James Ave and Columbus Ave intersection). I am assuming that these were also the WVDA studios. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:27 AM To: A. Joseph Ross Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio I believe that is what happened but I have no proof. For sure, the Yankee/Mutual affiliation stayed with WNAC when WNAC moved from 1260 to 680. WVDA was cobbled together from the old WNAC 1260 transmitter in Milton and/or Quincy and the Boston studios of the old WLAW 680, whose main studio was in Lawrence, the CoL. I believe that WLAW originated more programming from Boston than it did from it's "main" studio in Lawrence. The WVDA studios (which had been the WLAW Boston studios) were in a well-known Boston hotel, whose name I keep forgetting. That hotel had previously been the site of WBZ's studios and also the studios of WBOS (not just the FM station but also WBOS (AM) 1600, which became WUNR many decades ago). It makes sense that when 680 became WNAC, the ABC affiliation would have moved from 680 to 1260 (WVDA), because both WLAW and WCOP had been ABC affiliates (something that was possible because WLAW was officially not a Boston station despite having the market's second best signal in Boston) and Plough Inc, WCOP's new owner, did not want WCOP to continue its network affiliation. Despite a 5-kW signal that was inferior downtown and elsewhere to 680's 50-kW, WCOP had been the "real" Boston ABC affiliate for several years before Plough bought it. I think it was established many years ago on this list that, even though three or four stations had maintained studios in the same Boston hotel at various times, they did not all occupy the same space at different times. Indeed, there was probably a time when that hotel was home to at least two unrelated radio stations at the same time. Somebody, please supply the hotel name so I can say, "Oh, yeah." (Wasn't it on Stuart St? It was neither the Parker House nor the Touraine, IIRC.) Thanks. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Donna Halper" Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio > I wonder whether > WVDA picked up the ABC affiliation from WLAW when that changeover > took place. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun May 16 18:10:22 2010 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 18:10:22 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <004101caf528$2da5ad90$88f108b0$@com> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com>, <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com><4BEF85C2.24617.855DC8@joe.attorneyross.com> <51EDB4EA61CC4574825668780261F577@YOURbcbbe822ed><2B50A2AE5C26454E81FB62C12CE3EFA9@SatU205S5044> <004101caf528$2da5ad90$88f108b0$@com> Message-ID: <9F387CBE6A794DE29B923CB71E58DE7E@passion> > I'm expecting to see ghosts in 1920s attire floating down the hallway. > > [Brian Vita] ...or Jack Nicholson with an ax "Wendy, I'm home" Does the place smell like old lady? From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun May 16 18:12:22 2010 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 18:12:22 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <0070A490631C4A3AB1A12C16069E76C7@aeriema> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com>, <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com><4BEF85C2.24617.855DC8@joe.attorneyross.com> <0070A490631C4A3AB1A12C16069E76C7@aeriema> Message-ID: <59A2EF21C0374897830E92EE48CCBA5D@passion> > I know that WEZE studios were in the office building section of what was > then the "Statler Hilton" in Park Square (now known as the Boston Park > Plaza). These were the studios right on the street on the first floor with > a > big curved plate glass window (St. James Ave and Columbus Ave > intersection). > I am assuming that these were also the WVDA studios. > Was the entire station there (except for the TX) or was it just a satellite studio? [Brian Vita] From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Sun May 16 18:25:18 2010 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 18:25:18 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <59A2EF21C0374897830E92EE48CCBA5D@passion> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com>, <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com><4BEF85C2.24617.855DC8@joe.attorneyross.com> <0070A490631C4A3AB1A12C16069E76C7@aeriema> <59A2EF21C0374897830E92EE48CCBA5D@passion> Message-ID: <4BF070CE.8040103@ttlc.net> IIRC, the entire station was there. Offices and production studios were buried in the building. Brian Vita wrote: >> I know that WEZE studios were in the office building section of what was >> then the "Statler Hilton" in Park Square (now known as the Boston Park >> Plaza). These were the studios right on the street on the first floor with >> a >> big curved plate glass window (St. James Ave and Columbus Ave >> intersection). >> I am assuming that these were also the WVDA studios. >> >> > Was the entire station there (except for the TX) or was it just a satellite > studio? > [Brian Vita] > > > > From gallen2@nescaum.org Sun May 16 18:26:57 2010 From: gallen2@nescaum.org (George Allen) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 18:26:57 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio Message-ID: Hotel Bradford. Spent some "quality" time there working with WBOS way way back. George At 12:00 PM 5/16/2010, Dan Strassberg wrote: >Somebody, please supply the hotel name so I can say, "Oh, yeah." >(Wasn't it on Stuart St? It was neither the Parker House nor the >Touraine, IIRC.) Thanks. From markwats@comcast.net Sun May 16 19:14:10 2010 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 19:14:10 -0400 Subject: Bernice Corpuz From WCAP To WBZ Message-ID: This past Friday (5/14) marked the last day at WCAP for morning news anchor Bernice Corpuz, who is moving on to a full time spot at WBZ Radio. Bernice had been doing some weekend freelance work on 'BZ for several months while also holding down the afternoon news/traffic reporter slot on Manchester's WZID. (she recently left that job). WCAP owner Clark Smidt is running a promo congratulating Bernice on her move to 'BZ and thanking her for her service to WCAP, something I've never heard any station owner do, especially acknowledging the other station "by name". Mark Watson From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun May 16 20:33:35 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 20:33:35 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com>, <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com><4BEF85C2.24617.855DC8@joe.attorneyross.com> <0070A490631C4A3AB1A12C16069E76C7@aeriema> Message-ID: I'm pretty sure that the 1260 studios did not move to the street-level location in Park Sq until after Diehm sold the station to Air Trails and the calls had changed from WVDA to WEZE. By then, as WEZE, the station was no longer an affiliate of any of the (by then) four ABC radio networks; it had become an NBC Radio affiliate. And IIRC, it did not remain an NBC affiliate for terribly long. No Boston-market radio station carried NBC Radio's full lineup, but at one point, most of the NBC Radio programming that made it onto the air in Boston appeared on WNAC 680. That was part of the early stages of the rapid decline of what had been America's premiere radio network. NBC was probably glad that the market's second-best signal was clearing some of its programs, but I doubt whether one person in 100 interviewed at random on the streets of Boston or Cambridge could have identitied the station that was carrying the largest amount of NBC Radio programming. In fact, anyone who had thought about it would have been likely to have answered, "NBC Radio--is there really still an NBC Radio?" ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hall" To: Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 4:12 PM Subject: RE: Boston and ABC Radio >I know that WEZE studios were in the office building section of what >was > then the "Statler Hilton" in Park Square (now known as the Boston > Park > Plaza). These were the studios right on the street on the first > floor with a > big curved plate glass window (St. James Ave and Columbus Ave > intersection). > I am assuming that these were also the WVDA studios. > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On > Behalf Of > Dan.Strassberg > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:27 AM > To: A. Joseph Ross > Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio > > I believe that is what happened but I have no proof. For sure, the > Yankee/Mutual affiliation stayed with WNAC when WNAC moved from 1260 > to 680. WVDA was cobbled together from the old WNAC 1260 transmitter > in Milton and/or Quincy and the Boston studios of the old WLAW 680, > whose main studio was in Lawrence, the CoL. I believe that WLAW > originated more programming from Boston than it did from it's "main" > studio in Lawrence. The WVDA studios (which had been the WLAW Boston > studios) were in a well-known Boston hotel, whose name I keep > forgetting. That hotel had previously been the site of WBZ's studios > and also the studios of WBOS (not just the FM station but also WBOS > (AM) 1600, which became WUNR many decades ago). > > It makes sense that when 680 became WNAC, the ABC affiliation would > have moved from 680 to 1260 (WVDA), because both WLAW and WCOP had > been ABC affiliates (something that was possible because WLAW was > officially not a Boston station despite having the market's second > best signal in Boston) and Plough Inc, WCOP's new owner, did not > want > WCOP to continue its network affiliation. Despite a 5-kW signal that > was inferior downtown and elsewhere to 680's 50-kW, WCOP had been > the > "real" Boston ABC affiliate for several years before Plough bought > it. > > I think it was established many years ago on this list that, even > though three or four stations had maintained studios in the same > Boston hotel at various times, they did not all occupy the same > space > at different times. Indeed, there was probably a time when that > hotel > was home to at least two unrelated radio stations at the same time. > Somebody, please supply the hotel name so I can say, "Oh, yeah." > (Wasn't it on Stuart St? It was neither the Parker House nor the > Touraine, IIRC.) Thanks. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: "Donna Halper" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:42 AM > Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio > >> I wonder whether >> WVDA picked up the ABC affiliation from WLAW when that changeover >> took place. >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 >> Boston, MA 02109-2004 >> http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> > > From scott@fybush.com Sun May 16 20:57:24 2010 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 20:57:24 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com>, <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com><4BEF85C2.24617.855DC8@joe.attorneyross.com> <0070A490631C4A3AB1A12C16069E76C7@aeriema> Message-ID: <4BF09474.8070103@fybush.com> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > No Boston-market radio > station carried NBC Radio's full lineup, but at one point, most of the > NBC Radio programming that made it onto the air in Boston appeared on > WNAC 680. That was part of the early stages of the rapid decline of > what had been America's premiere radio network. NBC almost had a closer relationship with WNAC. I believe it was in 1960 that RKO and NBC struck a deal to swap NBC's WRC AM-FM-TV in Washington for RKO's WNAC AM-FM-TV in Boston. At one time, I had a stack of old Broadcasting magazines here that chronicled the collapse of that deal; it fell apart, as I recall, because NBC was in bad odor with the FCC at that point over the forced 1956 swap of its Cleveland assets for Westinghouse's Philly stations. That deal, as we know, was eventually undone in 1965 - but in the meantime, the FCC was evidently loath to sanction another swap that would have given NBC a bigger-market O&O. The really fascinating "what if" of that deal is, of course, not radio but TV. Had channel 7 become an NBC O&O back in 1960, Westinghouse would have needed a new affiliation for WBZ-TV. At the time, the rest of the Westinghouse TV group was all over the map in network affiliation: ABC in Baltimore at WJZ, NBC in Cleveland at KYW, CBS in Pittsburgh at KDKA and in San Francisco at KPIX, so WBZ could easily have gone with either CBS or ABC. If channel 4 had ended up with CBS way back when, it would have stabilized Boston's TV scene back in 1960 in exactly the way it all shook out 35 years later: CBS on 4, ABC on 5, NBC on 7. If Westinghouse had gone with ABC (as I dimly recall to have been the tentative plan), that would have only sped up the eventual WHDH-TV/CBS alliance on channel 5. Would the 1972 affiliation swap for WCVB still have happened? Or would CBS not have ended up on channel 4 until the Westinghouse/CBS deal in 1995? And how different would Boston TV have looked in the nineties with 7 as an NBC O&O, not a Sunbeam station? There are radio "what-if"s, too - NBC wasn't a big top-40 radio company, so WRKO would never have happened, just for starters. Then there would have been another shakeup when NBC sold off its radio interests in the late eighties. And NBC wouldn't have owned WJIB if it already had WNAC-FM, either. We'll never know exactly how it would all have played out, of course...but it's fun to wonder. s From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun May 16 21:28:45 2010 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 21:28:45 -0400 Subject: Bernice Corpuz From WCAP To WBZ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000901caf560$4e2cb9e0$ea862da0$@com> > > This past Friday (5/14) marked the last day at WCAP for morning news > anchor Bernice Corpuz, who is moving on to a full time spot at WBZ > Radio. > Bernice had been doing some weekend freelance work on 'BZ for several > months > while also holding down the afternoon news/traffic reporter slot on > Manchester's WZID. (she recently left that job). > > WCAP owner Clark Smidt is running a promo congratulating Bernice on > her > move to 'BZ and thanking her for her service to WCAP, something I've > never > heard any station owner do, especially acknowledging the other station > "by > name". > [Brian Vita] It's called "class". Something not often seen in the radio business. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun May 16 21:47:28 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 21:47:28 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <4BEEDFBA.19588.6F47DA@joe.attorneyross.com> <20100515213125.68BE444C027@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> <4BEF85C2.24617.855DC8@joe.attorneyross.com> <0070A490631C4A3AB1A12C16069E76C7@aeriema> Message-ID: <20100517014739.6B4CC1B4012@relay30.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 08:33 PM 5/16/2010, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >I'm pretty sure that the 1260 studios did not move to the street-level >location in Park Sq until after Diehm sold the station to Air Trails >and the calls had changed from WVDA to WEZE. That is my recollection too. WVDA listed the Hotel Bradford as their studio location in the Radio/TV Annual every year till they went off the air. The Bradford was also listed in the newspaper ads Vic Diehm placed. From bill.smith@comcast.net Sun May 16 22:44:00 2010 From: bill.smith@comcast.net (Bill Smith) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 22:44:00 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC radio Message-ID: When WEZE was at the Statler Office Building, morning man Alan Colmes ("Big Al Your Morning Pal") was the only daytime jock during the station's 1970s oldies period that I recall working with the window curtains drawn shut. WEZE was the ABC Information net after the four-way split, and WMEX had contemporary (Best open ever: "The forecast for Wednesday: It'll be raining pieces of Skylab. I'm Keeve Berman [or whoever] American Contemporary Radio") My hazy memory tells me that eventually WHDH was with the Entertainment net, but not until the post Herald-Traveler days and well into the Blair era when the half-hourly was used on the overnights. I wonder if there was an Entertainment net affiliate right after the split, or if there was ever an FM net affiliate. From joe@attorneyross.com Mon May 17 02:03:01 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 02:03:01 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, Message-ID: <4BF0DC15.18717.99B761@joe.attorneyross.com> On 16 May 2010 at 20:33, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I'm pretty sure that the 1260 studios did not move to the street-level > location in Park Sq until after Diehm sold the station to Air Trails > and the calls had changed from WVDA to WEZE. By then, as WEZE, the > station was no longer an affiliate of any of the (by then) four ABC > radio networks; it had become an NBC Radio affiliate. The change from WVDA to WEZE, and its NBC affiliation was in the late 1950s. The split of ABC into four networks was in 1968. > And IIRC, it did not remain an NBC affiliate for terribly long. No > Boston-market radio station carried NBC Radio's full lineup, but at > one point, most of the NBC Radio programming that made it onto the > air in Boston appeared on WNAC 680. That was part of the early > stages of the rapid decline of what had been America's premiere > radio network. NBC was probably glad that the market's second-best > signal was clearing some of its programs, but I doubt whether one > person in 100 interviewed at random on the streets of Boston or > Cambridge could have identitied the station that was carrying the > largest amount of NBC Radio programming. In fact, anyone who had > thought about it would have been likely to have answered, "NBC > Radio--is there really still an NBC Radio?" I'm not sure how long WEZE was a full NBC affiliate, but I seem to remember when they dropped most NBC programming other than news. They continued with news for a number of years after dropping other NBC programs. WNAC, on the other hand, became an NBC affiliate, in addition to their mutual affiliation, when WBZ dropped NBC affiliation, sometime in the mid-1950s. That didn't last more than a few years before NBC moved to WEZE. For Awhile in the early 1970s WCOP was the NBC affiliate in Boston. The problem was that in the 1950s local stations liked network news but increasingly didn't want anything else from the networks. This was partly because the networks had changed affiliate compensation so that it was less profitable to carry network programming than to go with local DJs. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon May 17 02:03:01 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 02:03:01 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, Message-ID: <4BF0DC15.3750.99B6B5@joe.attorneyross.com> On 16 May 2010 at 11:27, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > It makes sense that when 680 became WNAC, the ABC affiliation would > have moved from 680 to 1260 (WVDA), because both WLAW and WCOP had > been ABC affiliates (something that was possible because WLAW was > officially not a Boston station despite having the market's second > best signal in Boston) and Plough Inc, WCOP's new owner, did not want > WCOP to continue its network affiliation. Despite a 5-kW signal that > was inferior downtown and elsewhere to 680's 50-kW, WCOP had been the > "real" Boston ABC affiliate for several years before Plough bought it. But the WNAC/WLAW/WVDA switch took place in 1952 or 1953, and the Plough purchase of WCOP was a few years later. > Somebody, please supply the hotel name so I can say, "Oh, yeah." > (Wasn't it on Stuart St? It was neither the Parker House nor the > Touraine, IIRC.) Thanks. I believe it was the Hotel Bradford, on Tremont Street. I think it's now Tremont House. I went there sometime around 1975 to tape an early-Sunday interview show on WUNR about rent control, and I remember being told that WBZ had once been in that hotel. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon May 17 02:03:01 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 02:03:01 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <4BF09474.8070103@fybush.com> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, , <4BF09474.8070103@fybush.com> Message-ID: <4BF0DC15.28485.99B7FD@joe.attorneyross.com> On 16 May 2010 at 20:57, Scott Fybush wrote: > If channel 4 had ended up with CBS way back when, it would have > stabilized Boston's TV scene back in 1960 in exactly the way it all > shook out 35 years later: CBS on 4, ABC on 5, NBC on 7. If > Westinghouse had gone with ABC (as I dimly recall to have been the > tentative plan), that would have only sped up the eventual WHDH-TV/CBS > alliance on channel 5. Would the 1972 affiliation swap for WCVB still > have happened? Or would CBS not have ended up on channel 4 until the > Westinghouse/CBS deal in 1995? And how different would Boston TV have > looked in the nineties with 7 as an NBC O&O, not a Sunbeam station? As I recall, WHDH-TV 5 was already a CBS affiliate when the WNAC-TV swap was being discussed, which would have put ABC on channel 4. Presumably, after the changeover to WCVB in 1972, CBS would still have wanted to change its affiliation to a more established station. > And NBC wouldn't have owned WJIB if it already had WNAC-FM, either. NBC owned WJIB? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Mon May 17 02:09:33 2010 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 02:09:33 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <4BF0DC15.28485.99B7FD@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, , <4BF09474.8070103@fybush.com> <4BF0DC15.28485.99B7FD@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <000a01caf587$884b5970$98e20c50$@com> > NBC owned WJIB? > [Brian Vita] Wasn't that GE? From markwa1ion@aol.com Mon May 17 09:39:24 2010 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 09:39:24 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio Message-ID: <8CCC3DD7F186097-1534-933D@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> I remember listening to NBC's weekend "Monitor" program on WEZE ca. 1961 when I was 12. At this point I remember the Monitor intro electronic beeps more than the actual programming which verged on dull (at least to a kid) compared to what was coming out of WMEX (whose towers were a good outfielder's toss down the Neponset's south bank from WEZE). Neither station had what you would call a rock-crusher signal where I was in Arlington. WCOP (1150) and WNAC (680) ruled on cheap radios with WHDH (850), WBZ (1030), and WEEI (590) next. Luckily I quickly graduated to good radios. I remember WORL-950 carrying Paul Harvey at noon in the early '60s. Not sure if that was Mutual or ABC. CBS was WEEI-590 at that point and for a while I was a fan of "Yours Truly Johnny Dollar" (a detective show), one of the last leftovers of radio drama. I think they also carried another CBS drama called "Suspense". Local WEEI stars included talker Paul Benzaquin and weatherman E. B. Rideout (a real name, or a play on "he'll be right out" ? - never could figure out that one). ABC used to have the Breakfast Club which I remember more out of WABC-770 NYC than from any Boston affiliate. I had some serious wires high in pine trees out behind my house so picking up the NYC 50 kW's - even daytimes - was not that tough. It is true that by the '60s, network radio meant mostly news and some limited amount of big-event sports coverage such as the World Series. Mark Connelly << I'm not sure how long WEZE was a full NBC affiliate, but I seem to remember when they dropped most NBC programming other than news. They continued with news for a number of years after dropping other NBC programs. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. >> << I'm pretty sure that the 1260 studios did not move to the street-level location in Park Sq until after Diehm sold the station to Air Trails and the calls had changed from WVDA to WEZE. By then, as WEZE, the station was no longer an affiliate of any of the (by then) four ABC radio networks; it had become an NBC Radio affiliate. And IIRC, it did not remain an NBC affiliate for terribly long. No Boston-market radio station carried NBC Radio's full lineup, but at one point, most of the NBC Radio programming that made it onto the air in Boston appeared on WNAC 680. That was part of the early stages of the rapid decline of what had been America's premiere radio network. NBC was probably glad that the market's second-best signal was clearing some of its programs, but I doubt whether one person in 100 interviewed at random on the streets of Boston or Cambridge could have identitied the station that was carrying the largest amount of NBC Radio programming. In fact, anyone who had thought about it would have been likely to have answered, "NBC Radio--is there really still an NBC Radio?" ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> From scott@fybush.com Mon May 17 09:45:23 2010 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 09:45:23 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <4BF0DC15.28485.99B7FD@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, , <4BF09474.8070103@fybush.com> <4BF0DC15.28485.99B7FD@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <4BF14873.5020109@fybush.com> On 5/17/2010 2:03 AM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > As I recall, WHDH-TV 5 was already a CBS affiliate when the WNAC-TV > swap was being discussed, which would have put ABC on channel 4. > Presumably, after the changeover to WCVB in 1972, CBS would still > have wanted to change its affiliation to a more established station. It was more complicated than that. WHDH-TV came on in 1957 with ABC, which left WNAC-TV (which had been dual CBS/ABC) with just CBS. The two stations swapped affiliations on January 1, 1961, which may apparently have been a side effect of WNAC's attempted sale - CBS wanted the stability of a big-market affiliate that wasn't being sold, and especially to a rival network. In any event, it seems safe to say that the field was wide open at that point, and if Westinghouse had sought a deal with CBS for channel 4, it probably could have arranged one. At the same time, Westinghouse circa 1960 was a questionable prize for any of the big 3 networks. This was the pre-Group W era when it was "WBC," the Westinghouse Broadcasting Company, and they thought of themselves as practically a fourth network, with no compunction about preempting a network offering for something local or generated from elsewhere in the Westinghouse empire. So the same desire for a stable, full-clearance affiliate that drove CBS from channel 5 to channel 7 in 1972 might well have driven CBS *to* channel 5 in 1961. >> And NBC wouldn't have owned WJIB if it already had WNAC-FM, either. > > NBC owned WJIB? Yes, if briefly - when GE bought NBC in 1986, what was left of General Electric Broadcasting was merged into NBC, and that included WJIB. It didn't last all that long; WJIB was sold to Emmis in 1988 along with most of the rest of NBC Radio. But if NBC had acquired WNAC radio/TV in 1960, and if it had hung on to the radio/TV combo into the eighties, there would have to have been a divestiture of either WJIB or of WNAC-FM (which probably wouldn't have become WROR!) when GE bought NBC. s From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon May 17 10:40:50 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 10:40:50 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio Message-ID: <0CE1708640DA4682B19AC4DBF9B456AE@SatU205S5044> GE DID own 96.9. Indeed, it was GE, which had had a lot of success with the beautiful music format on FM (most notably at KFOG in San Francisco), that installed that format at 96.9 in Boston and renamed the station WJIB. But I vaguely recall that NBC also owned WJIB at some point. Remember, GE owned RCA which owned NBC. And when RCA folded, didn't GE sell off the RCA brand name to one or two Japanese companies and then directly absorb NBC? And isn't GE's ownership of NBC only just now supposedly coming to an end (with the announced intended sale of NBC to Comcast)? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vita" To: "'A. Joseph Ross'" ; "'Scott Fybush'" Cc: Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:09 AM Subject: RE: Boston and ABC Radio >> NBC owned WJIB? >> > [Brian Vita] Wasn't that GE? > ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From kc1ih@mac.com Mon May 17 12:42:56 2010 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 12:42:56 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <000a01caf587$884b5970$98e20c50$@com> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <4BF09474.8070103@fybush.com> <4BF0DC15.28485.99B7FD@joe.attorneyross.com> <000a01caf587$884b5970$98e20c50$@com> Message-ID: At 2:09 AM -0400 5/17/10, Brian Vita wrote: > > NBC owned WJIB? >> >[Brian Vita] Wasn't that GE? And I think that refers to the original WJIB 96.9, not the current WJIB 740. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Mon May 17 13:37:32 2010 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 10:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <0CE1708640DA4682B19AC4DBF9B456AE@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <353497.48841.qm@web50804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Well in fact, it wasn't GE that installed the original beautiful music format on the original WJIB (96.9). It was Kaiser Broadcasting (with co-ownership with The Boston Globe) who began 'JIB in May of 1967. K-FOG/San Francisco was also owned by Kaiser Broadcasting. Both 'JIB and K-FOG used their call-letters to denote an ocean setting with the beautiful muisic to match. 96.9 was originally WXHR-FM, owned by Harvey Laboratories (along co-owned WXHR/740 and WTAO/WXHR-TV Channel 56). K-FOG was co-owned with KBHK-TV Channel 44, San Francisco. Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Mon, 5/17/10, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > From: Dan.Strassberg > Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio > To: "Boston Radio Interest" > Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 10:40 AM > GE DID own 96.9. Indeed, it was GE, > which had had a lot of success with the beautiful music > format on FM (most notably at KFOG in San Francisco), that > installed that format at 96.9 in Boston and renamed the > station WJIB. But I vaguely recall that NBC also owned WJIB > at some point. Remember, GE owned RCA which owned NBC. And > when RCA folded, didn't GE sell off the RCA brand name to > one or two Japanese companies and then directly absorb NBC? > And isn't GE's ownership of NBC only just now supposedly > coming to an end (with the announced intended sale of NBC to > Comcast)? > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vita" > To: "'A. Joseph Ross'" ; > "'Scott Fybush'" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:09 AM > Subject: RE: Boston and ABC Radio > > > >> NBC owned WJIB? > >> > > [Brian Vita] Wasn't that GE? > > > > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Mon May 17 14:30:59 2010 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 14:30:59 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio References: <8CCC3DD7F186097-1534-933D@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I was a radio nerd as a kid and liked Monitor over Rock 'n Roll. Until you brought it up I never had any idea it had such a long run and famous names who took part. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monitor_(NBC_Radio) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 9:39 AM Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio I remember listening to NBC's weekend "Monitor" program on WEZE ca. 1961 when I was 12. At this point I remember the Monitor intro electronic beeps more than the actual programming which verged on dull (at least to a kid) compared to what was coming out of WMEX (whose towers were a good outfielder's toss down the Neponset's south bank from WEZE). Neither station had what you would call a rock-crusher signal where I was in Arlington. WCOP (1150) and WNAC (680) ruled on cheap radios with WHDH (850), WBZ (1030), and WEEI (590) next. Luckily I quickly graduated to good radios. I remember WORL-950 carrying Paul Harvey at noon in the early '60s. Not sure if that was Mutual or ABC. CBS was WEEI-590 at that point and for a while I was a fan of "Yours Truly Johnny Dollar" (a detective show), one of the last leftovers of radio drama. I think they also carried another CBS drama called "Suspense". Local WEEI stars included talker Paul Benzaquin and weatherman E. B. Rideout (a real name, or a play on "he'll be right out" ? - never could figure out that one). ABC used to have the Breakfast Club which I remember more out of WABC-770 NYC than from any Boston affiliate. I had some serious wires high in pine trees out behind my house so picking up the NYC 50 kW's - even daytimes - was not that tough. It is true that by the '60s, network radio meant mostly news and some limited amount of big-event sports coverage such as the World Series. Mark Connelly << I'm not sure how long WEZE was a full NBC affiliate, but I seem to remember when they dropped most NBC programming other than news. They continued with news for a number of years after dropping other NBC programs. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. >> << I'm pretty sure that the 1260 studios did not move to the street-level location in Park Sq until after Diehm sold the station to Air Trails and the calls had changed from WVDA to WEZE. By then, as WEZE, the station was no longer an affiliate of any of the (by then) four ABC radio networks; it had become an NBC Radio affiliate. And IIRC, it did not remain an NBC affiliate for terribly long. No Boston-market radio station carried NBC Radio's full lineup, but at one point, most of the NBC Radio programming that made it onto the air in Boston appeared on WNAC 680. That was part of the early stages of the rapid decline of what had been America's premiere radio network. NBC was probably glad that the market's second-best signal was clearing some of its programs, but I doubt whether one person in 100 interviewed at random on the streets of Boston or Cambridge could have identitied the station that was carrying the largest amount of NBC Radio programming. In fact, anyone who had thought about it would have been likely to have answered, "NBC Radio--is there really still an NBC Radio?" ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon May 17 16:20:35 2010 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 16:20:35 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <353497.48841.qm@web50804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CCC4158A982FCC-484-326E@web-mmc-m03.sysops.aol.com> I saw an ad in an old North Shore newspaper from 1967 or so;a cartoon of a smiling bee above a flower with the legend--"Beautiful...The X/R all time hit parade. (WXHR) AM 740/FM 96.9" -----Original Message----- From: Peter Q. George To: Boston Radio Interest ; Dan.Strassberg Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 1:37 pm Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio Well in fact, it wasn't GE that installed the original beautiful music format on the original WJIB (96.9). It was Kaiser Broadcasting (with co-ownership with The Boston Globe) who began 'JIB in May of 1967. K-FOG/San Francisco was also owned by Kaiser Broadcasting. Both 'JIB and K-FOG used their call-letters to denote an ocean setting with the beautiful muisic to match. 96.9 was originally WXHR-FM, owned by Harvey Laboratories (along co-owned WXHR/740 and WTAO/WXHR-TV Channel 56). K-FOG was co-owned with KBHK-TV Channel 44, San Francisco. Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Mon, 5/17/10, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > From: Dan.Strassberg > Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio > To: "Boston Radio Interest" > Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 10:40 AM > GE DID own 96.9. Indeed, it was GE, > which had had a lot of success with the beautiful music > format on FM (most notably at KFOG in San Francisco), that > installed that format at 96.9 in Boston and renamed the > station WJIB. But I vaguely recall that NBC also owned WJIB > at some point. Remember, GE owned RCA which owned NBC. And > when RCA folded, didn't GE sell off the RCA brand name to > one or two Japanese companies and then directly absorb NBC? > And isn't GE's ownership of NBC only just now supposedly > coming to an end (with the announced intended sale of NBC to > Comcast)? > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vita" > To: "'A. Joseph Ross'" ; > "'Scott Fybush'" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:09 AM > Subject: RE: Boston and ABC Radio > > > >> NBC owned WJIB? > >> > > [Brian Vita] Wasn't that GE? > > > > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > From wollman@bimajority.org Mon May 17 16:44:00 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 16:44:00 -0400 Subject: Supreme Court turns aside challenge to must-carry rules Message-ID: <19441.43664.175771.711524@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> The Supreme Court today declined to consider the cable industry's latest attempt to get out from under the burden of must-carry. Lyle Denniston of SCOTUSblog describes the case as follows: The Supreme Court refused on Monday to reopen the issue of Congress's power to order cable television systems to carry the programs of local broadcasters in their geographic areas. Without comment, the Court declined to hear Cablevisions Systems Corp. v. Federal Communications Commission (09-901). In essence, the cable TV industry was asking the Court to reconsider its rulings in 1994 and 1997 in the Turner Broadcasting cases, upholding the so-called "must carry" rule. The industry argued that competition has grown so much in the communications industry since the 1990s that local broadcasters no longer needed the "must carry" option in their broadcast areas, and thus it violates cable operators' First Amendment rights to choose their own programming. "The factual underpinnings [of the Turner Broadcasting rulings] have evaporated," the Cablevisions petition argued. "Most importantly, the monopolistic nature of the cable industry that was key to the Court's Turner decisions has been replaced by vibrant competition." The FCC, in reply, contended that the realities of commercial life in local over-the-air TV broadcasting still justify the must-carry rule's enforcement. -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon May 17 19:40:34 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:40:34 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio References: <353497.48841.qm@web50804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <70DB136FE4324EBEB3045596D7E2716A@SatU205S5044> I think you are right about Kaiser-Globe. And I think I remember 740 when it was (briefly) WXHR (AM). But if I'm not mistaken, Bob Bittner told me that he had never been able to confirm that the the WXHR calls ever resided at what is now WJIB (AM). IIRC, Bob also said that there is some reason to believe that today's WJIB (AM) was also (briefly) WJIB (AM) in a former life many years ago. AFAIK, the calls that the station had for most of its life under the ownership of Harvey Radio were WTAO. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Q. George" To: "Boston Radio Interest" ; "Dan.Strassberg" Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 1:37 PM Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio > Well in fact, it wasn't GE that installed the original beautiful > music format on the original WJIB (96.9). It was Kaiser > Broadcasting (with co-ownership with The Boston Globe) who began > 'JIB in May of 1967. K-FOG/San Francisco was also owned by Kaiser > Broadcasting. Both 'JIB and K-FOG used their call-letters to denote > an ocean setting with the beautiful muisic to match. 96.9 was > originally WXHR-FM, owned by Harvey Laboratories (along co-owned > WXHR/740 and WTAO/WXHR-TV Channel 56). K-FOG was co-owned with > KBHK-TV Channel 44, San Francisco. > > > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) > Whitman, Massachusetts > "Scanning the bands since 1967" > > radiojunkie3@yahoo.com > *********************************************************** > > > --- On Mon, 5/17/10, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > >> From: Dan.Strassberg >> Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio >> To: "Boston Radio Interest" >> >> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 10:40 AM >> GE DID own 96.9. Indeed, it was GE, >> which had had a lot of success with the beautiful music >> format on FM (most notably at KFOG in San Francisco), that >> installed that format at 96.9 in Boston and renamed the >> station WJIB. But I vaguely recall that NBC also owned WJIB >> at some point. Remember, GE owned RCA which owned NBC. And >> when RCA folded, didn't GE sell off the RCA brand name to >> one or two Japanese companies and then directly absorb NBC? >> And isn't GE's ownership of NBC only just now supposedly >> coming to an end (with the announced intended sale of NBC to >> Comcast)? >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vita" >> >> To: "'A. Joseph Ross'" ; >> "'Scott Fybush'" >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:09 AM >> Subject: RE: Boston and ABC Radio >> >> >> >> NBC owned WJIB? >> >> >> > [Brian Vita] Wasn't that GE? >> > >> >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Tue May 18 02:18:45 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 02:18:45 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <4BF14873.5020109@fybush.com> References: <20100514124411.hzezg7r88wco40w4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <4BF0DC15.28485.99B7FD@joe.attorneyross.com>, <4BF14873.5020109@fybush.com> Message-ID: <4BF23145.22810.B88F50@joe.attorneyross.com> On 17 May 2010 at 9:45, Scott Fybush wrote: > At the same time, Westinghouse circa 1960 was a questionable prize for > any of the big 3 networks. This was the pre-Group W era when it was > "WBC," the Westinghouse Broadcasting Company, and they thought of > themselves as practically a fourth network, with no compunction about > preempting a network offering for something local or generated from > elsewhere in the Westinghouse empire. So the same desire for a stable, > full-clearance affiliate that drove CBS from channel 5 to channel 7 in > 1972 might well have driven CBS *to* channel 5 in 1961. WBZ-TV had that habit well into the 1990s. In fact for awhile preemptions were running rampant on all Boston stations. > But if NBC had acquired WNAC radio/TV in 1960, and if it had hung on > to the radio/TV combo into the eighties, there would have to have been > a divestiture of either WJIB or of WNAC-FM (which probably wouldn't > have become WROR!) when GE bought NBC. And it would have been WNAC-FM again, rather than WRKO-FM. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue May 18 02:18:45 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 02:18:45 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <353497.48841.qm@web50804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <0CE1708640DA4682B19AC4DBF9B456AE@SatU205S5044>, <353497.48841.qm@web50804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BF23145.29785.B8900C@joe.attorneyross.com> On 17 May 2010 at 10:37, Peter Q. George wrote: > Well in fact, it wasn't GE that installed the original beautiful music > format on the original WJIB (96.9). It was Kaiser Broadcasting (with > co-ownership with The Boston Globe) who began 'JIB in May of 1967. > K-FOG/San Francisco was also owned by Kaiser Broadcasting. Both 'JIB > and K-FOG used their call-letters to denote an ocean setting with the > beautiful muisic to match. 96.9 was originally WXHR-FM, owned by > Harvey Laboratories (along co-owned WXHR/740 and WTAO/WXHR-TV Channel > 56). K-FOG was co-owned with KBHK-TV Channel 44, San Francisco. Actually, 96.9 was originally WXHR. It changed to WXHR-FM sometime in the late 1960s, when WTAO 740 became WXHR and began simulcasting the WXHR classical music programming. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue May 18 02:18:46 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 02:18:46 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <70DB136FE4324EBEB3045596D7E2716A@SatU205S5044> References: <353497.48841.qm@web50804.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, <70DB136FE4324EBEB3045596D7E2716A@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4BF23146.18742.B891C1@joe.attorneyross.com> On 17 May 2010 at 19:40, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I think you are right about Kaiser-Globe. And I think I remember 740 > when it was (briefly) WXHR (AM). But if I'm not mistaken, Bob Bittner > told me that he had never been able to confirm that the the WXHR calls > ever resided at what is now WJIB (AM). IIRC, Bob also said that there > is some reason to believe that today's WJIB (AM) was also (briefly) > WJIB (AM) in a former life many years ago. AFAIK, the calls that the > station had for most of its life under the ownership of Harvey Radio > were WTAO. No question that the WXHR calls resided on 740 for at least a couple of years. What I thought Bob was trying to verify was that the WJIB calls once resided on 740 at some time before his ownership. So far as I can recall, they didn't. When Kaiser-Globe bought the stations from Harvey Labs, they shut the stations down and re-launched each one separately when it was ready. WCAS was first, from its Central Square studios. WJIB and WKBG-TV came later. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From aerie.ma@comcast.net Tue May 18 08:26:42 2010 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 08:26:42 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC Radio In-Reply-To: <70DB136FE4324EBEB3045596D7E2716A@SatU205S5044> References: <353497.48841.qm@web50804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <70DB136FE4324EBEB3045596D7E2716A@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <00d701caf685$631982e0$294c88a0$@ma@comcast.net> 740 was indeed WXHR(AM) for a while. There was a short-lived Boston radio print magazine on newsstands (maybe for 6 months) and I remember a clever ad WXHR had. WXHR in big letters on top, then "740 AM/FM 96.9" below that in slightly smaller letters, then the kicker "Clear Channel/50,000 watts" beneath that. The "clear channel" applied to the AM (yes, it was a clear channel...but we forgot to mention that WE are not the dominant station) and the "50,000 watts" applied to the FM (well...equivalent to 50,000 watts at 500 feet maybe). -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:41 PM To: Peter Q. George; Boston Radio Interest Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio I think you are right about Kaiser-Globe. And I think I remember 740 when it was (briefly) WXHR (AM). But if I'm not mistaken, Bob Bittner told me that he had never been able to confirm that the the WXHR calls ever resided at what is now WJIB (AM). IIRC, Bob also said that there is some reason to believe that today's WJIB (AM) was also (briefly) WJIB (AM) in a former life many years ago. AFAIK, the calls that the station had for most of its life under the ownership of Harvey Radio were WTAO. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Q. George" To: "Boston Radio Interest" ; "Dan.Strassberg" Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 1:37 PM Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio > Well in fact, it wasn't GE that installed the original beautiful > music format on the original WJIB (96.9). It was Kaiser > Broadcasting (with co-ownership with The Boston Globe) who began > 'JIB in May of 1967. K-FOG/San Francisco was also owned by Kaiser > Broadcasting. Both 'JIB and K-FOG used their call-letters to denote > an ocean setting with the beautiful muisic to match. 96.9 was > originally WXHR-FM, owned by Harvey Laboratories (along co-owned > WXHR/740 and WTAO/WXHR-TV Channel 56). K-FOG was co-owned with > KBHK-TV Channel 44, San Francisco. > > > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) > Whitman, Massachusetts > "Scanning the bands since 1967" > > radiojunkie3@yahoo.com > *********************************************************** > > > --- On Mon, 5/17/10, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > >> From: Dan.Strassberg >> Subject: Re: Boston and ABC Radio >> To: "Boston Radio Interest" >> >> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 10:40 AM >> GE DID own 96.9. Indeed, it was GE, >> which had had a lot of success with the beautiful music >> format on FM (most notably at KFOG in San Francisco), that >> installed that format at 96.9 in Boston and renamed the >> station WJIB. But I vaguely recall that NBC also owned WJIB >> at some point. Remember, GE owned RCA which owned NBC. And >> when RCA folded, didn't GE sell off the RCA brand name to >> one or two Japanese companies and then directly absorb NBC? >> And isn't GE's ownership of NBC only just now supposedly >> coming to an end (with the announced intended sale of NBC to >> Comcast)? >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vita" >> >> To: "'A. Joseph Ross'" ; >> "'Scott Fybush'" >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:09 AM >> Subject: RE: Boston and ABC Radio >> >> >> >> NBC owned WJIB? >> >> >> > [Brian Vita] Wasn't that GE? >> > >> >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> > > > From stevesnow1@gmail.com Mon May 17 13:17:24 2010 From: stevesnow1@gmail.com (Steve Snow) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:17:24 -0400 Subject: Boston and ABC radio Message-ID: Mark, See Don Kent's memories of E.B. Rideout: http://www.ericpinder.com/html/donkent.html He was a real original and quite the long-term broadcaster, I'd guess... Also nominated for the Boston Radio Hall Of Fame... Steve From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue May 18 16:26:11 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:26:11 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book Message-ID: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> As many of you know, I am working on a new book-- a pictorial history of Boston radio and TV. The editors (Arcadia Press) asked me to choose a cover photo of a famous Boston radio or TV personality, and frankly, I can think of many possible choices, but wanted to ask you good folks-- what famous Boston radio or TV personality (past or present) is sufficiently well known that they should be on the cover of a book? Your suggestions are deeply appreciated. From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Tue May 18 16:33:25 2010 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:33:25 -0500 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: Donna, instead of a LARGE picture of ONE personality, what about a collage of smaller pictures of may personalites, spanning from the early days of Boston radio up to today? Paul On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > As many of you know, I am working on a new book-- a pictorial history of > Boston radio and TV. The editors (Arcadia Press) asked me to choose a cover > photo of a famous Boston radio or TV personality, and frankly, I can think > of many possible choices, but wanted to ask you good folks-- what famous > Boston radio or TV personality (past or present) is sufficiently well known > that they should be on the cover of a book? Your suggestions are deeply > appreciated. > > From MauOB@aol.com Tue May 18 16:41:18 2010 From: MauOB@aol.com (MauOB@aol.com) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:41:18 EDT Subject: a suggestion for my new book Message-ID: <8afa5.e5528b0.3924556e@aol.com> In a message dated 5/18/2010 1:40:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com writes: Donna, instead of a LARGE picture of ONE personality, what about a collage of smaller pictures of may personalites, spanning from the early days of Boston radio up to today? Paul I had the same thought ... OR put a collection of call letter, signs, buildings ... Maureen From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Tue May 18 16:42:59 2010 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:42:59 -0500 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <8afa5.e5528b0.3924556e@aol.com> References: <8afa5.e5528b0.3924556e@aol.com> Message-ID: What about below each small picture of a personality, you incldue a logo, past or present of the station they were on? Paul On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:41 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 5/18/2010 1:40:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com writes: > > Donna, instead of a LARGE picture of ONE personality, what about a collage > of smaller pictures of may personalites, spanning from the early days of > Boston radio up to today? > > Paul > > > I had the same thought ... OR put a collection of call letter, signs, > buildings ... > > Maureen > From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue May 18 16:44:38 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:44:38 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <20100518204453.26A321B408A@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 04:33 PM 5/18/2010, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: >Donna, instead of a LARGE picture of ONE personality, what about a >collage of smaller pictures of may personalites, spanning from the >early days of Boston radio up to today? That is what I wanted to do, but they don't want that on a cover-- I can (and will) do a collage on the inside, but they want one famous person on the front cover, and another on the back cover. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Tue May 18 16:46:35 2010 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:46:35 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <2B69549393834945BCAF87B599ADEB7A@s20035> > -- what famous Boston radio or TV personality (past or present) is > sufficiently well known that they should be on the cover of a book? Your > suggestions are deeply appreciated. My first reaction would be Dave Maynard, who withstood the test of time...and was sucessful in both radio and TV. Starting in Boston at (daytimer) WORL and finishing his career at the top of the ratings at WBZ. Not particularly witty, serious or insightful........but managed to connect authentically with more New Englanders on a daily basis. From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Tue May 18 16:47:14 2010 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:47:14 -0500 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <20100518204453.26A321B408A@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <20100518204453.26A321B408A@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: What about one male and one female? However, I dont know much about Boston radio history at all, so I can't contribute much to this discussion as to who.. :( Paul On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > At 04:33 PM 5/18/2010, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > >> Donna, instead of a LARGE picture of ONE personality, what about a collage >> of smaller pictures of may personalites, spanning from the early days of >> Boston radio up to today? >> > > That is what I wanted to do, but they don't want that on a cover-- I can > (and will) do a collage on the inside, but they want one famous person on > the front cover, and another on the back cover. > From aerie.ma@comcast.net Tue May 18 16:50:00 2010 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:50:00 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <1DED65BF358D47179FD8A71D8FDE160C@aeriema> I think having a picture of a single personality would make one think that the book was specifically about that person, rather than Boston radio and TV in general. I would go for a collage of personalities, towers, studio exteriors, studio interiors, record surveys, station logos, etc. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:26 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: a suggestion for my new book As many of you know, I am working on a new book-- a pictorial history of Boston radio and TV. The editors (Arcadia Press) asked me to choose a cover photo of a famous Boston radio or TV personality, and frankly, I can think of many possible choices, but wanted to ask you good folks-- what famous Boston radio or TV personality (past or present) is sufficiently well known that they should be on the cover of a book? Your suggestions are deeply appreciated. From MauOB@aol.com Tue May 18 16:54:13 2010 From: MauOB@aol.com (MauOB@aol.com) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:54:13 EDT Subject: a suggestion for my new book Message-ID: <8bef5.6cf7a5de.39245875@aol.com> In a message dated 5/18/2010 1:50:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, aerie.ma@comcast.net writes: a pictorial history So the book is all pictures? Do you have the photos collected already? I would just go with the face that most people would recognize. Take 5 or 10 and show them to some random people and see who is most recognized? Maureen From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue May 18 16:55:27 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:55:27 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <2FA9C49ACA16499085E93D3C0DC2D875@SatU205S5044> I guess you've got to pick somebody who is best known for his/her TV work, since people who worked mostly in Radio are not likely to be recognized by potential buyers. Who is the best-known local TV personality of the last 60+ years? Presumably, it would be someone with great longevity. Natalie and Chet, maybe? A while back, somebody commented that Sesame St is not really a local Boston show. It's no news to anybody that Sesame St is seen in every major market in the US and probably just about every major market in the world. But doesn't the show have Boston roots? I mean, isn't it produced by WGBH? If so, I would pick a Muppet--probably Kermit, maybe Ms Piggy or maybe the two of them. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:26 PM Subject: a suggestion for my new book > As many of you know, I am working on a new book-- a pictorial > history of Boston radio and TV. The editors (Arcadia Press) asked > me to choose a cover photo of a famous Boston radio or TV > personality, and frankly, I can think of many possible choices, but > wanted to ask you good folks-- what famous Boston radio or TV > personality (past or present) is sufficiently well known that they > should be on the cover of a book? Your suggestions are deeply > appreciated. > From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue May 18 16:57:23 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:57:23 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <8bef5.6cf7a5de.39245875@aol.com> References: <8bef5.6cf7a5de.39245875@aol.com> Message-ID: <20100518205737.923DC1B4398@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 04:54 PM 5/18/2010, MauOB@aol.com wrote: >So the book is all pictures? Do you have the photos collected >already? I would just go with the face that most people would recognize. No it's typical of the Arcadia "Images of America" books-- a lot of pictures, but also some text. From scott@fybush.com Tue May 18 16:58:43 2010 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:58:43 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <2FA9C49ACA16499085E93D3C0DC2D875@SatU205S5044> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <2FA9C49ACA16499085E93D3C0DC2D875@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4BF2FF83.9020808@fybush.com> On 5/18/2010 4:55 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > A while back, somebody commented that Sesame St is not really a local > Boston show. It's no news to anybody that Sesame St is seen in every > major market in the US and probably just about every major market in > the world. But doesn't the show have Boston roots? I mean, isn't it > produced by WGBH? If so, I would pick a Muppet--probably Kermit, maybe > Ms Piggy or maybe the two of them. No Boston connection to Sesame Street at all of which I'm aware. The show was (and is) taped in New York City, where its production company (the former Childrens Television Workshop, now Sesame Workshop) is based. Perhaps you're thinking of ZOOM, which was indeed a WGBH production with deep Boston roots? s From kvahey@gmail.com Tue May 18 17:02:35 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:02:35 -0500 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: I would suggest a montage. It would be impossible to pick once cover person Jess, Bozo, Tom Ellis, Jack Hynes, Major Mudd, Bob Emery, Don Kent, Don Gillis, Larry Glick, Jerry Williams, Chuck Igo, Liz Walker, Bob Lobel etc On 5/18/10, Donna Halper wrote: > As many of you know, I am working on a new book-- a pictorial history > of Boston radio and TV. The editors (Arcadia Press) asked me to > choose a cover photo of a famous Boston radio or TV personality, and > frankly, I can think of many possible choices, but wanted to ask you > good folks-- what famous Boston radio or TV personality (past or > present) is sufficiently well known that they should be on the cover > of a book? Your suggestions are deeply appreciated. > > -- Sent from my mobile device From rac@gabrielmass.com Tue May 18 17:03:55 2010 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 17:03:55 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <2B69549393834945BCAF87B599ADEB7A@s20035> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <2B69549393834945BCAF87B599ADEB7A@s20035> Message-ID: <4BF300BB.2040303@server4.gabrielmass.com> On 05/18/2010 04:46 PM, Don wrote: > My first reaction would be Dave Maynard, who withstood the test of > time...and was sucessful in both radio and TV. That's the answer. A suggestion for the other cover: David Ives. --RC From kvahey@gmail.com Tue May 18 17:09:49 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:09:49 -0500 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: References: <8afa5.e5528b0.3924556e@aol.com> Message-ID: Julia Child is as famous as anybody from Boston media Bozo was syndicated Jack Williams 35 years and still going Jess Cain - except most don't know what he looked like On 5/18/10, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > What about below each small picture of a personality, you incldue a logo, > past or present of the station they were on? > > Paul > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:41 PM, wrote: > >> In a message dated 5/18/2010 1:40:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com writes: >> >> Donna, instead of a LARGE picture of ONE personality, what about a collage >> of smaller pictures of may personalites, spanning from the early days of >> Boston radio up to today? >> >> Paul >> >> >> I had the same thought ... OR put a collection of call letter, signs, >> buildings ... >> >> Maureen >> > -- Sent from my mobile device From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue May 18 17:12:53 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 17:12:53 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: References: <8afa5.e5528b0.3924556e@aol.com> Message-ID: <20100518211307.E52281B4393@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 05:09 PM 5/18/2010, Kevin Vahey wrote: >Julia Child is as famous as anybody from Boston media > >Bozo was syndicated Yes, but didn't each city have its own local Bozo the Clown? Ours was Frank Avruch, yes? From kvahey@gmail.com Tue May 18 17:42:01 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:42:01 -0500 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <20100518211307.E52281B4393@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <8afa5.e5528b0.3924556e@aol.com> <20100518211307.E52281B4393@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: Frank was considered the 'national' Bozo and was shown in most markets (the major exception was Chicago) On 5/18/10, Donna Halper wrote: > At 05:09 PM 5/18/2010, Kevin Vahey wrote: >>Julia Child is as famous as anybody from Boston media >> >>Bozo was syndicated > > Yes, but didn't each city have its own local Bozo the Clown? Ours > was Frank Avruch, yes? > > -- Sent from my mobile device From kvahey@gmail.com Tue May 18 17:46:12 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:46:12 -0500 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <4BF2FF83.9020808@fybush.com> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <2FA9C49ACA16499085E93D3C0DC2D875@SatU205S5044> <4BF2FF83.9020808@fybush.com> Message-ID: There are a number of 40-50 year olds nationally that know the zip 02134 A friend says (seriously) that the most famous Boston broadcaster is Tom Bergeron. Eek On 5/18/10, Scott Fybush wrote: > On 5/18/2010 4:55 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > >> A while back, somebody commented that Sesame St is not really a local >> Boston show. It's no news to anybody that Sesame St is seen in every >> major market in the US and probably just about every major market in >> the world. But doesn't the show have Boston roots? I mean, isn't it >> produced by WGBH? If so, I would pick a Muppet--probably Kermit, maybe >> Ms Piggy or maybe the two of them. > > No Boston connection to Sesame Street at all of which I'm aware. The > show was (and is) taped in New York City, where its production company > (the former Childrens Television Workshop, now Sesame Workshop) is based. > > Perhaps you're thinking of ZOOM, which was indeed a WGBH production with > deep Boston roots? > > s > -- Sent from my mobile device From wollman@bimajority.org Tue May 18 18:00:48 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:00:48 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <2FA9C49ACA16499085E93D3C0DC2D875@SatU205S5044> <4BF2FF83.9020808@fybush.com> Message-ID: <19443.3600.844685.104253@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > There are a number of 40-50 year olds nationally that know the zip 02134 > A friend says (seriously) that the most famous Boston broadcaster is > Tom Bergeron. Eek Surely that's for his nationally-syndicated TV work, not for anything he did in Boston. If you include national shows, the most famous would have to be Leno or Conan -- but neither of them is known for anything they did while in Boston. (I don't think either was ever on any local broadcast here.) Not being a native Bostonian, I couldn't comment on who *would* fit. (The famous broadcast personalities of my youth, many of them recognizable from photographs, would be Bird Berdan, Marselis Parsons, Ernie Farrar, Louie Manno and Jim Condon, and Ken Squier. I suspect the Arcadia book on Burlington/Plattsburgh broadcasting history is a long way from being published.) -GAWollman From kc1ih@mac.com Tue May 18 18:05:42 2010 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:05:42 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: At 4:26 PM -0400 5/18/10, Donna Halper wrote: >As many of you know, I am working on a new book-- a pictorial >history of Boston radio and TV. The editors (Arcadia Press) asked >me to choose a cover photo of a famous Boston radio or TV >personality, and frankly, I can think of many possible choices, but >wanted to ask you good folks-- what famous Boston radio or TV >personality (past or present) is sufficiently well known that they >should be on the cover of a book? Your suggestions are deeply >appreciated. Bob Elitott of Bob and Ray. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From nostaticatall@charter.net Tue May 18 18:08:20 2010 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:08:20 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <20100518211307.E52281B4393@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <8afa5.e5528b0.3924556e@aol.com> <20100518211307.E52281B4393@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <2BE3C487-5508-47C1-97FA-913D2BDE9100@charter.net> I think most of the people who will buy the book will not recognize the radio or TV people from way back when. They would have to be people of more recent vintage that have the longevity. My votes go for Gary La Pierre or Dale Dorman for the back, Jack Williams for the front. -D On May 18, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > At 05:09 PM 5/18/2010, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> Julia Child is as famous as anybody from Boston media >> >> Bozo was syndicated > > Yes, but didn't each city have its own local Bozo the Clown? Ours > was Frank Avruch, yes? From atolz@comcast.net Tue May 18 18:13:28 2010 From: atolz@comcast.net (Alan Tolz) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:13:28 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <495E2DBC5EEB4AEDA93EB25D788C54ED@mediacenter> Tom Ellis at an achor desk (front) and Arnie Ginsburg, in the WMEX studio (back). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:26 PM Subject: a suggestion for my new book > As many of you know, I am working on a new book-- a pictorial history of > Boston radio and TV. The editors (Arcadia Press) asked me to choose a > cover photo of a famous Boston radio or TV personality, and frankly, I can > think of many possible choices, but wanted to ask you good folks-- what > famous Boston radio or TV personality (past or present) is sufficiently > well known that they should be on the cover of a book? Your suggestions > are deeply appreciated. > > From kenwvt@gmail.com Tue May 18 18:15:01 2010 From: kenwvt@gmail.com (Ken VanTassell) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:15:01 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <2BE3C487-5508-47C1-97FA-913D2BDE9100@charter.net> References: <8afa5.e5528b0.3924556e@aol.com> <20100518211307.E52281B4393@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <2BE3C487-5508-47C1-97FA-913D2BDE9100@charter.net> Message-ID: I would agree with Jack Williams for the front. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Dave Tomm wrote: > I think most of the people who will buy the book will not recognize the > radio or TV people from way back when. They would have to be people of more > recent vintage that have the longevity. > > My votes go for Gary La Pierre or Dale Dorman for the back, Jack Williams > for the front. > > -D > > > > On May 18, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > > At 05:09 PM 5/18/2010, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> >>> Julia Child is as famous as anybody from Boston media >>> >>> Bozo was syndicated >>> >> >> Yes, but didn't each city have its own local Bozo the Clown? Ours was >> Frank Avruch, yes? >> > > From attychase@comcast.net Tue May 18 18:41:07 2010 From: attychase@comcast.net (Robert S Chase) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:41:07 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book References: Message-ID: <5B55E5A4619D41E39532809B6C921E4F@HOMEOFFICE> For what it is worth I have absolutely no idea what any outstanding without question BOSTON personality would look like to the exclusions of others. I said that to indicated I think no one else in the country would recognize one either. Like, show me a picture of someone who is a major personality in Chicago and I would readily identify who it is? However, there is a solution, simply have whoever you select behind a microphone labeled with call letters everybody knows are from Boston such as WBZ or in front of a studio with same or whatever. That way your editor's, may I say dumb, idea won't fall terribly flat and everybody will understand what the book is about even if they don't recognize the personality. Given that, I favor putting Edwin H Armstrong, the inventor of FM and investor in the Yankee Network (you know, the person Sarnoff denies driving to suicide by his machinations with the FCC over where the FM band ended up) on the cover. In particular there is a picture of him in front of a "Yankee Network" remote or chief engineer's vehicle that would be my suggestion. (Sarnoff of course belongs on the cover of the New York book.) > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:26:11 -0400 > From: Donna Halper > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: a suggestion for my new book > Message-ID: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > As many of you know, I am working on a new book-- a pictorial history > of Boston radio and TV. The editors (Arcadia Press) asked me to > choose a cover photo of a famous Boston radio or TV personality, and > frankly, I can think of many possible choices, but wanted to ask you > good folks-- what famous Boston radio or TV personality (past or > present) is sufficiently well known that they should be on the cover > of a book? Your suggestions are deeply appreciated. From kvahey@gmail.com Tue May 18 17:57:27 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:57:27 -0500 Subject: Bob Lobel on the road back Message-ID: Bob Lobel has had some major health issues but he seems to be on the long road back. http://www.thedailyshrewsbury.com/Articles-c-2010-05-17-67766.113122_Lobel_slowly_learns_to_walk_again_through_rehab_at_Westboroughs_Whittier.html -- Sent from my mobile device From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Tue May 18 19:46:30 2010 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 19:46:30 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <20100518204453.26A321B408A@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <20100518204453.26A321B408A@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4BF326D6.6090506@ttlc.net> Would they allow two pictures? Possibly one Radio personality and one from TV? Personally, I'd put 4 pictures (each in a different "V" of an "X") on the cover crossing age demos & local vs national famousness. One nationally known Boston Radio personality (John Garabedian?) (Nationally known w/ younger demos) One nationally known Boston TV personality (Tom Bergeron?) (Nationally known w/ older, mid & younger demos) One locally known Boston Radio personality (Arnie Ginsburg? Dave Maynard?) (Older demos) One locally known Boston TV personality (Jack Williams?) (Older & mid demos) Nationally known for being a Boston personality could be problematic. But the name and/or picture might be recognizable. I'd be in a dither if I had to choose just one person. Whether they would admit it or not, anyone not chosen could feel more than slighted. Could always do a Zeppelin "In The Out Door" LP cover i.e. seven different covers - collect them all. Just my $0.02 Donna Halper wrote: > At 04:33 PM 5/18/2010, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: >> Donna, instead of a LARGE picture of ONE personality, what about a >> collage of smaller pictures of may personalites, spanning from the >> early days of Boston radio up to today? > > That is what I wanted to do, but they don't want that on a cover-- I > can (and will) do a collage on the inside, but they want one famous > person on the front cover, and another on the back cover. > > From kvahey@gmail.com Tue May 18 19:49:23 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:49:23 -0500 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <4BF326D6.6090506@ttlc.net> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <20100518204453.26A321B408A@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <4BF326D6.6090506@ttlc.net> Message-ID: My creative juices are flowing How about the first image ever seen on Boston TV? http://www.localnewser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/WBZ_TV_4_test_pattern.jpg On 5/18/10, Roger Kirk wrote: > Would they allow two pictures? Possibly one Radio personality and one > from TV? > > Personally, I'd put 4 pictures (each in a different "V" of an "X") on > the cover crossing age demos & local vs national famousness. > > One nationally known Boston Radio personality (John Garabedian?) > (Nationally known w/ younger demos) > One nationally known Boston TV personality (Tom Bergeron?) (Nationally > known w/ older, mid & younger demos) > One locally known Boston Radio personality (Arnie Ginsburg? Dave > Maynard?) (Older demos) > One locally known Boston TV personality (Jack Williams?) (Older & mid demos) > > Nationally known for being a Boston personality could be problematic. > But the name and/or picture might be recognizable. > > I'd be in a dither if I had to choose just one person. Whether they > would admit it or not, anyone not chosen could feel more than slighted. > > Could always do a Zeppelin "In The Out Door" LP cover i.e. seven > different covers - collect them all. > > Just my $0.02 > > > > Donna Halper wrote: >> At 04:33 PM 5/18/2010, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: >>> Donna, instead of a LARGE picture of ONE personality, what about a >>> collage of smaller pictures of may personalites, spanning from the >>> early days of Boston radio up to today? >> >> That is what I wanted to do, but they don't want that on a cover-- I >> can (and will) do a collage on the inside, but they want one famous >> person on the front cover, and another on the back cover. >> >> > -- Sent from my mobile device From lspin@comcast.net Tue May 18 20:01:19 2010 From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:01:19 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <000901caf6e6$699cdfc0$3cd69f40$@net> As has been discussed already, I think having the picture of a well-known, widely-recognizable personality might give a browser the idea that this book is about that person. That would either attract them and disappoint them, or drive them away because they were not a fan of this person. My opinion. I'm thinking that the best picture would be one of a little-known personality at a microphone or in front of a camera prominently displaying call letters of a well-known Boston radio (or TV) station. I think that the best call letters to display would be WBZ because of its national notoriety. But personally, I'd stop dead in my tracks if I saw WMEX displayed, and would have to buy several copies. But that's just me. This is a fantastic idea and I'm already looking forward to seeing the finished product! Thanks, -Lou -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:26 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: a suggestion for my new book As many of you know, I am working on a new book-- a pictorial history of Boston radio and TV. The editors (Arcadia Press) asked me to choose a cover photo of a famous Boston radio or TV personality, and frankly, I can think of many possible choices, but wanted to ask you good folks-- what famous Boston radio or TV personality (past or present) is sufficiently well known that they should be on the cover of a book? Your suggestions are deeply appreciated. From scott@fybush.com Tue May 18 20:14:36 2010 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:14:36 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <000901caf6e6$699cdfc0$3cd69f40$@net> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <000901caf6e6$699cdfc0$3cd69f40$@net> Message-ID: <4BF32D6C.5050204@fybush.com> The suggestions here are great - but having dealt a bit with Arcadia Publishing myself, it should be noted that there is very little room for anything creative here on Donna's part. Arcadia publishes literally thousands of local history titles a year, and it's a very formulaic operation: the author submits a whole bunch of photos (the rights to which have to be cleared by the author) and a little bit of text, it gets plugged into Arcadia's standard layout, and it gets a pretty decent distribution push online and in local bookstores in the area covered by the book. My understanding from friends who've done books with Arcadia is that the contract doesn't give the author a very big cut of the sale...and that there's no working around the standard layout. So if Arcadia says "one picture on the cover," then one picture it is. I don't mean to slight either Arcadia or Donna here; Arcadia's brought a lot of local history into print (and into national availability) that would never see print otherwise except maybe as something privately published locally, and of course Donna's material is bound to be fascinating. But I like to think of this as perhaps just the appetizer to test the market for a much more elaborate coffee-table book on Boston broadcast history someday... s From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue May 18 20:22:05 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:22:05 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <4BF32D6C.5050204@fybush.com> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <000901caf6e6$699cdfc0$3cd69f40$@net> <4BF32D6C.5050204@fybush.com> Message-ID: <20100519002220.A440344C37A@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> >Scott wrote-- >I don't mean to slight either Arcadia or Donna here; Arcadia's >brought a lot of local history into print (and into national >availability) that would never see print otherwise except maybe as >something privately published locally, and of course Donna's >material is bound to be fascinating. > >But I like to think of this as perhaps just the appetizer to test >the market for a much more elaborate coffee-table book on Boston >broadcast history someday... That has always been my hope-- to do a full treatment of Boston broadcasting. Bob Bittner and I talked about it back around 2000, but then it just didn't happen. Still... I figure the Arcadia book (and Scott is right about what he said) is a good start, and at least they have excellent distribution. From bill.smith@comcast.net Tue May 18 23:31:39 2010 From: bill.smith@comcast.net (Bill Smith) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 23:31:39 -0400 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 14, Issue 131 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: WCOP was NBC as early as 1968. Thor's mention of Monitor led me to search the archives for my bookmark of a Monitor tribute site http://www.monitorbeacon.net/ If you poke around you'll find a March 16, 1968 edition of Monitor taped off air from "Light and Lively" WCOP, complete with a JIm Dixon WCOP "First in Sound, First in Service" newscast, so a Boston station did clear a good chunk of the long-form NBC offerings. Warning: It opens with a straight read for a new wonder drug that relieves pain in "the affected area." Preparation H. One would assume that Monitor was dumped when Plough decided to play the country hits > I'm pretty sure that the 1260 studios did not move to the street-level > location in Park Sq until after Diehm sold the station to Air Trails > and the calls had changed from WVDA to WEZE. By then, as WEZE, the > station was no longer an affiliate of any of the (by then) four ABC > radio networks; it had become an NBC Radio affiliate. And IIRC, it did > not remain an NBC affiliate for terribly long. No Boston-market radio > station carried NBC Radio's full lineup, but at one point, most of the > NBC Radio programming that made it onto the air in Boston appeared on > WNAC 680. That was part of the early stages of the rapid decline of > what had been America's premiere radio network. NBC was probably glad > that the market's second-best signal was clearing some of its > programs, but I doubt whether one person in 100 interviewed at random > on the streets of Boston or Cambridge could have identitied the > station that was carrying the largest amount of NBC Radio programming. > In fact, anyone who had thought about it would have been likely to > have answered, "NBC Radio--is there really still an NBC Radio?" > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 >>> > From necrat@cox.net Wed May 19 00:05:14 2010 From: necrat@cox.net (Mike Fitzpatrick) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 00:05:14 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <001401caf708$7c59a810$750cf830$@net> I'll probably be laughed off the list for this suggestion but what about Norm Abram? The co-host of Boston based This Old House, a WGBH-TV institution since 1979. 31 years, known for his Boston accent and TV personality. That show and Norm himself have lead to a number of that style shows and spinoffs nationwide, including home improvement networks. --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On > Behalf Of Donna Halper > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 16:26 > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: a suggestion for my new book > > As many of you know, I am working on a new book-- a pictorial history > of Boston radio and TV. The editors (Arcadia Press) asked me to > choose a cover photo of a famous Boston radio or TV personality, and > frankly, I can think of many possible choices, but wanted to ask you > good folks-- what famous Boston radio or TV personality (past or > present) is sufficiently well known that they should be on the cover > of a book? Your suggestions are deeply appreciated. From heritageradio@msn.com Wed May 19 01:30:47 2010 From: heritageradio@msn.com (Thomas Heathwood) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 01:30:47 -0400 Subject: Donna's Book Message-ID: I have to agree with those who have suggested that a single OTR or TV Boston personality would tend to identify Donna's new book with that single person or group. Using a montage of faces, microphones, station venues, antennae, studio shots, etc... would provide an invitation to the reader to expect a pictorial review of Boston broadcasting covering lots of folks and a sizable time frame. Probably best in black and white with the title of the book/author "supered" on the montage in an old-time font, such as I have used for many years for Heritage Radio Classics. I will look in my files and see what may be there that Donna might not have in her extensive collection. <> Tom Heathwood HeritageRadio@msn.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed May 19 02:05:13 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 02:05:13 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <20100518204453.26A321B408A@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20100518202626.42B1B1B4671@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com>, , <20100518204453.26A321B408A@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4BF37F99.21854.B532B8@joe.attorneyross.com> On 18 May 2010 at 16:44, Donna Halper wrote: > That is what I wanted to do, but they don't want that on a cover-- I > can (and will) do a collage on the inside, but they want one famous > person on the front cover, and another on the back cover. Bozo the Clown? Or Willy Whistle? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed May 19 02:05:13 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 02:05:13 -0400 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 14, Issue 131 In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <4BF37F99.29703.B534CB@joe.attorneyross.com> On 18 May 2010 at 23:31, Bill Smith wrote: > One would assume that Monitor was dumped when Plough decided to play > the country hits But since Monitor came to an end on NBC around the same time, it's also possible that the end of Monitor triggered Plough changing WCOP's format to country hits. Anyone know just when WCOP switched to country hits? NBC Monitor ended in January 1975. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From zymrgist@comcast.net Tue May 18 19:05:08 2010 From: zymrgist@comcast.net (John) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 19:05:08 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book Message-ID: <4BF31D24.8080405@comcast.net> Arnie Woo Woo was as big as they get back in the day! John Lee Grant From ka3zci@yahoo.com Wed May 19 01:45:39 2010 From: ka3zci@yahoo.com (Robert Paine) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 22:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: A suggestion for my new book Message-ID: <158046.89501.qm@web30101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Donna, I'll add my fifty-cents worth (inflation, you know), with the caveat that I grew up outside Boston and rarely heard much beyond the Yankee Network. I'd go with Carl deSuze (hope I spelled it right). Other names: Bob Emery, Arch McDonald and Rex Trailer. I do want to mention Bill Hahn, a dear friend who has been under the weather for some time and is hopefully recovering. I'm sure you'll include him in the book. (One vote in his favor.) Bob Paine From rac@gabrielmass.com Wed May 19 03:50:25 2010 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 03:50:25 -0400 Subject: A suggestion for my new book In-Reply-To: <158046.89501.qm@web30101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <158046.89501.qm@web30101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BF39841.4070905@server4.gabrielmass.com> This is turning into a tough choice: maybe we need an NCAA-style Tournament O'Champions to narrow things down. For example: in a competition between a picture of Shelby Scott and one of Dick Albert, who would advance to the next round? --RC From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed May 19 08:16:48 2010 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 05:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) In-Reply-To: <4BF37F99.29703.B534CB@joe.attorneyross.com> References: , <4BF37F99.29703.B534CB@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <373015.50230.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> WCOP had to switch before 1973, as I remember listening to it in the car after my family moved back here from Denver in the fall of 1972. I don't remember hearing Monitor on WCOP at the time but to be honest as a 6-7 year old I wasn't looking for it either. Maureen From markwa1ion@aol.com Wed May 19 09:10:43 2010 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:10:43 -0400 Subject: a suggestion for my new book Message-ID: <8CCC56BD28A041C-3328-1730@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com> << >From zymrgist@comcast.net Tue May 18 19:05:08 2010 Subject: a suggestion for my new book Arnie Woo Woo was as big as they get back in the day! John Lee Grant >> I was thinking Arnie too since, in my early '60s youth, I was more a WMEX-addicted radio nut than a TV person. From that era WBZ's Dick Summer and Bruce Bradley would also rate high in DJ-dom. Other worthy candidates include Carl DeSuze, Dave Maynard, Jefferson Kaye, Bill Marlowe, Jess Cain, Bob Clayton, and Alan Dary (just for starters). Late '60s and early/mid '70s would be about Laquidara, Garabedian, Sartori, Parenteau, Parry, and the others who led the album-rock charge on FM's WBCN & WCOZ and AM "wannabe's" WMEX, WNTN, and WGTR. Public radio's Della Chiesa and Lurtsema are also notable. For a TV AND radio person, how about Don Kent, meteorologist extraordinaire of BZ TV 4 and AM 1030 ? If you picked Don, that would have great general appeal - old and young alike - without political wrangling that might accompany the choice of Jerry Williams, Howie Carr, David Brudnoy, Avi Nelson, Jay Severin, or any other talkmeister (aside, maybe, from non-controversial types such as Larry Glick, Steve Leveille, and Kenny Mayer). This list's Bob Bittner and Donna L. Halper are noteworthy in Boston radio history for their involvements with the "little station that could", 740 in Cambridge. One thing this discussion is doing is bringing up a lot of names that should at least be included inside the book, pictorially and in words if possible, if not on the cover. I am excited about the book even if Arcadia will be tending to squeeze it into their formula. Donna's own resources, augmented by the inputs of the rest of the Boston broadcasting historians on this list, quite likely have a surplus of good material from pictures and documents to humorous anecdotes. 500 to 1000 pages might not even be enough to cover everyone and everything worth mentioning. Scott's idea of a coffee table book sounds great. Maybe two: one for radio and one for TV - or a division between 'old days' ('70s and before) and more modern times. Personally I'm a big fan of other Arcadia books, particularly those by Richard Duffy about my old hometown of Arlington. Mark Connelly Billerica, MA + South Yarmouth, MA From kvahey@gmail.com Wed May 19 10:34:49 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:34:49 -0500 Subject: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) In-Reply-To: <373015.50230.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <4BF37F99.29703.B534CB@joe.attorneyross.com> <373015.50230.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: COP went country sometime in 68 - I visited the studio/xmtr in Lexington and the 7-Midnight DJ was a former Dan Donovan at WMEX WCOP was still MOR in 67 when they carried the Red Sox World Series off NBC. I also learned for the first time how fickle directional signals could be. WCOP was doing play by play of a soccer team (Dom Valentino) and they used for some home games Manning Bowl in Lynn - and you could not pick up 1150 clearly. On 5/19/10, Maureen Carney wrote: > WCOP had to switch before 1973, as I remember listening to it in the car > after my family moved back here from Denver in the fall of 1972. I don't > remember hearing Monitor on WCOP at the time but to be honest as a 6-7 year > old I wasn't looking for it either. > > Maureen > > > > -- Sent from my mobile device From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed May 19 10:46:47 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:46:47 -0400 Subject: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) In-Reply-To: References: <4BF37F99.29703.B534CB@joe.attorneyross.com> <373015.50230.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100519144704.2CB7C1B4B78@relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 10:34 AM 5/19/2010, Kevin Vahey wrote: >COP went country sometime in 68 - I visited the studio/xmtr in >Lexington and the 7-Midnight DJ was a former Dan Donovan at WMEX And WCOP had gone country before-- circa 1954, they aired a popular show called the Hayloft Jamboree. And if I am not mistaken, Nelson Bragg worked there for a while and did some of their country programs. From sonnydaye1@gmail.com Wed May 19 11:04:19 2010 From: sonnydaye1@gmail.com (Sonny Daye) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:04:19 -0400 Subject: WVDA Hotel Studio Message-ID: Dan was trying to remember the name of the hotel WVDA was located in. My fuzzy memory recalls dropping in on Joe Smith at a studio in the HOTEL SOMERSET (400 Comm. Ave) around 1959. I'm not sure if it was WVDA or WILD. He worked at* both* (*AFTER* his MEX stint). Did WVDA *become* WILD? I can't recall what WILD'S previous calls were*. *Anyway, is The Somerset Hotel the one you were trying to remember?* -Sonny Daye Dan said: <<<<>>>>>>>>>> * > > * > * From markwa1ion@aol.com Wed May 19 12:08:39 2010 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:08:39 -0400 Subject: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) Message-ID: <8CCC584AD848BF4-22A0-42B6@webmail-m041.sysops.aol.com> WCOP was certainly country 1969-1972 when I worked a Northeastern "co-op job" at Doble Engineering, then on Concord Avenue in Belmont. It was always blasting on a radio in the Shipping-Receiving / Loading Dock area. The shipping supervisor (MacGillivray I think was his last name) was a huge country fan. "Rose Garden" by Lynn Anderson was one of the super hits of that era. You could hear it out on that loading dock 3 or 4 times a day. The engineers and test techs usually had WBCN, WRKO, or WMEX on in their work area. Some secretaries had TV-sound radios to follow the "soaps". WCOP's monster signal from just over the crest of Belmont Hill on the same street sometimes got into the sensitive test equipment that we sold to power companies. Some items needed to be tested in a "screen room" (Faraday cage). Mark Connelly (WA1ION) << From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Subject: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) At 10:34 AM 5/19/2010, Kevin Vahey wrote: >COP went country sometime in 68 - I visited the studio/xmtr in >Lexington and the 7-Midnight DJ was a former Dan Donovan at WMEX And WCOP had gone country before-- circa 1954, they aired a popular show called the Hayloft Jamboree. And if I am not mistaken, Nelson Bragg worked there for a while and did some of their country programs. >> From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed May 19 13:14:19 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 13:14:19 -0400 Subject: WVDA Hotel Studio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100519171435.89FC81B417A@relay30.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 11:04 AM 5/19/2010, Sonny Daye wrote: > I'm not sure if it was WVDA or WILD. >He worked at* both* (*AFTER* his MEX stint). Did WVDA *become* WILD? Not that I know of. WILD had formerly been WBMS, and WVDA ended up with the new calls of WEZE. Both of those events occurred in 1957. From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed May 19 13:19:14 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 13:19:14 -0400 Subject: WVDA Hotel Studio Message-ID: <20100519171931.686501B96E7@relay30.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 11:04 AM 5/19/2010, Sonny Daye wrote: > I'm not sure if it was WVDA or WILD. >[Joe Smith] worked at* both* (*AFTER* his MEX stint). As for Joe Smith, yes he first worked at WVDA, and then he worked at WILD. And yes, at that time, WILD was located at the old Hotel Somerset. From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed May 19 17:43:50 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:43:50 -0400 Subject: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) References: <4BF37F99.29703.B534CB@joe.attorneyross.com><373015.50230.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: For sure that would have been the case at night. The daytime signal is not great in that direction either but not horrible. The night pattern primarily protected co-channels in Ottawa, St Johns NB (I think), and Wilmington DE. The day pattern is simply a considerably relaxed version of the night pattern with enough gain toward Boston to satisfy the FCC. At the time WCOP was built, a Boston-licensed AM was supposed to deliver 25 mV/m to the main post office. WCOP never did much better than 15 mV/m and had to have gotten a waiver. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Maureen Carney" ; "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:34 AM Subject: Re: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) > I also learned for the first time how fickle directional signals > could > be. WCOP was doing play by play of a soccer team (Dom Valentino) and > they used for some home games Manning Bowl in Lynn - and you could > not > pick up 1150 clearly. From kvahey@gmail.com Wed May 19 18:02:16 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:02:16 -0500 Subject: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) In-Reply-To: References: <4BF37F99.29703.B534CB@joe.attorneyross.com> <373015.50230.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Certainly explains why WCOP failed as a Top 40 outlet in the early 60's as they didn't have the north shore teens at night. That at least WMEX could do. Could 1150 get a power increase - I know 1150 in LA runs 50K On 5/19/10, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > For sure that would have been the case at night. The daytime signal is > not great in that direction either but not horrible. The night pattern > primarily protected co-channels in Ottawa, St Johns NB (I think), and > Wilmington DE. The day pattern is simply a considerably relaxed > version of the night pattern with enough gain toward Boston to satisfy > the FCC. At the time WCOP was built, a Boston-licensed AM was supposed > to deliver 25 mV/m to the main post office. WCOP never did much better > than 15 mV/m and had to have gotten a waiver. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Vahey" > To: "Maureen Carney" ; "Boston Radio Group" > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:34 AM > Subject: Re: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) > >> I also learned for the first time how fickle directional signals >> could >> be. WCOP was doing play by play of a soccer team (Dom Valentino) and >> they used for some home games Manning Bowl in Lynn - and you could >> not >> pick up 1150 clearly. > > -- Sent from my mobile device From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Wed May 19 18:27:42 2010 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 15:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Week-old weather forecasts - is this what radio has become? Message-ID: <826351.39632.qm@web55801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> This past weekend, my wife and I took a trip up to Burlington VT. While there, on Sunday morning we were listening to Star 92.9 WEZF. When the weather forecast came on, we winced when it called for a 'bad Mothers Day with rain mixing with snow all day and temps in the 40s.' This despite the fact that Mother's Day was a week prior, and it was bright and sunny outside (the temperature even made it into the low 70s that day). Is this what radio has come to, when even a 100 kw market-leading station can't even be bothered to check what actually airs over the weekend? I didn't think of this until it was too late, but since we actually stayed right near their Fort Ethan Allen studios, I probably should've gone there and taped a note on their front door about paying attention to what happens on their station during the "off-hours" of the weekend. You know, I might expect something like this to happen on an average small town station in the middle of nowhere, but apparently now even the big stations don't care anymore. Man am I glad I got out of radio when I did... Matt Osborne Rotterdam, NY P.S. - Man I can only imagine what my former colleague Dave Symonds, ex-program director of that station during one of its better periods, would say if he heard about this. From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Wed May 19 18:48:51 2010 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 18:48:51 -0400 Subject: Week-old weather forecasts - is this what radio has become? In-Reply-To: <826351.39632.qm@web55801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <826351.39632.qm@web55801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20100519184341.02809268@plymouthcolony.net> At 06:27 PM 5/19/2010, Matthew Osborne wrote: >When the weather forecast came on, we winced when it called for a >'bad Mothers Day' It wasn't killdated when it was put into the automation system. If it had been killdated, you would have heard no forecast, which, IMHO, is preferable to a week-old forecast. Two people are responsible for what you heard: 1) The Operations Manager, for not insisting that the staff killdate all limited-life files. 2) Whichever air staff member is responsible for putting in the weekend forecasts. Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed May 19 19:06:10 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 19:06:10 -0400 Subject: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) References: <4BF37F99.29703.B534CB@joe.attorneyross.com> <373015.50230.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5EE1B806DC7746FF85C4373FC098F3B4@SatU205S5044> WWDJ (I think those are the calls du jour) is a Class B AM. The maximum for Class Bs is 50 kW. But an increase would be difficult. First, the Canadians, though dark, must be protected as if they were still there. Closer to home, there is an 1150 in Middletown CT and there are 1170s in Norfolk and Orleans MA and Vernon CT. There is also an 1120 in Concord MA and an 1180 in Hope Valley RI. I rather doubt whether much could be done at the present site and anything that required adding or moving towers at that site would almost certainly be out of the question. The site is, after all, in snooty, NIMBY Lexington and abuts almost as snooty and probably just as NIMBY Belmont. Remember also that 1470 uses the same towers as WWDJ. Before Salem returned its CP that would have added 5-kW night service for WROL from its existing Saugus site (because of WROL's high NIF, the increase from 90W ND-N to 5 kW DA-N would have added scarcely any population within the NIF contour), I speculated about a nighttime diplex of WROL and what is now (I think) WWDJ. The stations that require nighttime protection on 950 and 1150 are in pretty much the same places and 1150 would have made out a little better than 950 because of a significantly lower NIF. But realistically, a more interesting question to speculate about is the possibility of a 950/1150/1470 nighttime triplex from the Lexington site. From the Lexington site, 950's entire NIF would fall over land allowing service to actual people, rather than fish. The problem with triplexes is that they are very expensive and tricky to pull off. Also, the presence of the 50 kW 1510 only about a mile away causes some hellish intermodulation and reradiation problems. To top it off, neither Salem, the primary lessee, nor Multicultural, the secondary lessee, owns the Lexington site. It is owned by American Tower Systems. AFAIK, ATS also owns the buildings and all of the towers (the three self-supporting AM towers and the lone, currently unused, FM tower). ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; "Maureen Carney" ; "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 6:02 PM Subject: Re: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) > > Could 1150 get a power increase - I know 1150 in LA runs 50K > From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed May 19 19:53:08 2010 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 19:53:08 -0400 Subject: Week-old weather forecasts - is this what radio has become? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20100519184341.02809268@plymouthcolony.net> References: <826351.39632.qm@web55801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100519184341.02809268@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: <4BF479E4.1040101@ttlc.net> I suspect that the Automation Software could share a small percentage of blame. If a programming template/schedule calls for a killdated file and the file isn't, the automation software should reject it. That way enforcement is two-way and more reliable. But who am I to advise? I'm just a veteran software engineer at the beach. Dale H. Cook wrote: > At 06:27 PM 5/19/2010, Matthew Osborne wrote: > >> When the weather forecast came on, we winced when it called for a >> 'bad Mothers Day' > > It wasn't killdated when it was put into the automation system. If it > had been killdated, you would have heard no forecast, which, IMHO, is > preferable to a week-old forecast. > > Two people are responsible for what you heard: > > 1) The Operations Manager, for not insisting that the staff killdate > all limited-life files. > 2) Whichever air staff member is responsible for putting in the > weekend forecasts. > > Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA > http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html > > From kc1ih@mac.com Wed May 19 20:06:00 2010 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:06:00 -0400 Subject: Week-old weather forecasts - is this what radio has become? In-Reply-To: <826351.39632.qm@web55801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <826351.39632.qm@web55801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 3:27 PM -0700 5/19/10, Matthew Osborne wrote: >This past weekend, my wife and I took a trip up to Burlington VT. >While there, on Sunday morning we were listening to Star 92.9 WEZF. >When the weather forecast came on, we winced when it called for a >'bad Mothers Day with rain mixing with snow all day and temps in the >40s.' This despite the fact that Mother's Day was a week prior, and >it was bright and sunny outside (the temperature even made it into >the low 70s that day). Is this what radio has come to, when even a >100 kw market-leading station can't even be bothered to check what >actually airs over the weekend? I didn't think of this until it was >too late, but since we actually stayed right near their Fort Ethan >Allen studios, I probably should've gone there and taped a note on >their front door about paying attention to what happens on their >station during the "off-hours" of the weekend. > >You know, I might expect something like this to happen on an average >small town station in the middle of nowhere, but apparently now even >the big stations don't care anymore. Man am I glad I got out of >radio when I did... > > Do they have a feedback or "contact us" form on their website? If so, they probably ignore that too. :-) I recently wrote to another VT station (WNCS) that their Internet stream sounded way too brite and has no bass, of course nothing has changed. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Wed May 19 20:52:06 2010 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:52:06 -0400 Subject: Week-old weather forecasts - is this what radio has become? In-Reply-To: <4BF479E4.1040101@ttlc.net> References: <826351.39632.qm@web55801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100519184341.02809268@plymouthcolony.net> <4BF479E4.1040101@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20100519204225.0280aa00@plymouthcolony.net> At 07:53 PM 5/19/2010, Roger Kirk wrote: >I suspect that the Automation Software could share a small >percentage of blame. > >If a programming template/schedule calls for a killdated file and >the file isn't, the automation >software should reject it. That's not how it works. In a music-based format, the music files are not killdated (and there are anywhere from several hundred to a few thousand of them), and in any format many other files, such as IDs, liners and jingles, are not killdated. Only time-sensitive files are killdated, such as spots, pre-recorded programs, PSAs (which typically have a limited run) and topical promos (generic promos are not time-sensitive). At least in a PC-based automation system you can killdate files. In olden days, when we used tape- and cart-based automation systems, controlled by a minicomputer or custom controller (or later by an early PC), carts could not be killdated by the system. Only a human could kill a cart by noting the killdate on the cart label (or hearing an outdated cart play) and yanking it. Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed May 19 21:00:32 2010 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:00:32 -0500 Subject: Week-old weather forecasts - is this what radio has become? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20100519204225.0280aa00@plymouthcolony.net> References: <826351.39632.qm@web55801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100519184341.02809268@plymouthcolony.net> <4BF479E4.1040101@ttlc.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20100519204225.0280aa00@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: probably what happened was the same file name is used for each day or segment, so the Mothers day weather file in automation was the same name as the weather for the following weekend.. someone simply forgot to record it. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Dale H. Cook wrote: > At 07:53 PM 5/19/2010, Roger Kirk wrote: > > I suspect that the Automation Software could share a small percentage of >> blame. >> >> If a programming template/schedule calls for a killdated file and the file >> isn't, the automation >> software should reject it. >> > > That's not how it works. In a music-based format, the music files are not > killdated (and there are anywhere from several hundred to a few thousand of > them), and in any format many other files, such as IDs, liners and jingles, > are not killdated. Only time-sensitive files are killdated, such as spots, > pre-recorded programs, PSAs (which typically have a limited run) and topical > promos (generic promos are not time-sensitive). > > At least in a PC-based automation system you can killdate files. In olden > days, when we used tape- and cart-based automation systems, controlled by a > minicomputer or custom controller (or later by an early PC), carts could not > be killdated by the system. Only a human could kill a cart by noting the > killdate on the cart label (or hearing an outdated cart play) and yanking > it. > > > Dale H. Cook, Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA > http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu May 20 01:49:36 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 01:49:36 -0400 Subject: WVDA Hotel Studio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BF4CD70.27270.80D3BC@joe.attorneyross.com> On 19 May 2010 at 11:04, Sonny Daye wrote: > Dan was trying to remember the name of the hotel WVDA was located in. > My fuzzy memory recalls dropping in on Joe Smith at a studio in the > HOTEL SOMERSET (400 Comm. Ave) around 1959. I'm not sure if it was > WVDA or WILD. He worked at* both* (*AFTER* his MEX stint). Did WVDA > *become* WILD? I can't recall what WILD'S previous calls were*. > *Anyway, is The Somerset Hotel the one you were trying to remember?* > -Sonny Daye WBMS became WILD circa 1957. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu May 20 01:49:35 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 01:49:35 -0400 Subject: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) In-Reply-To: References: , <373015.50230.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: <4BF4CD6F.5809.80D216@joe.attorneyross.com> On 19 May 2010 at 9:34, Kevin Vahey wrote: > COP went country sometime in 68 - I visited the studio/xmtr in > Lexington and the 7-Midnight DJ was a former Dan Donovan at WMEX There are a lot of them. > WCOP was still MOR in 67 when they carried the Red Sox World Series > off NBC. If WCOP was NBC in 1967, perhaps it kept NBC during its country phase. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu May 20 01:49:34 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 01:49:34 -0400 Subject: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) In-Reply-To: <373015.50230.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: , <4BF37F99.29703.B534CB@joe.attorneyross.com>, <373015.50230.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BF4CD6E.15651.80CC59@joe.attorneyross.com> On 19 May 2010 at 5:16, Maureen Carney wrote: > WCOP had to switch before 1973, as I remember listening to it in the > car after my family moved back here from Denver in the fall of 1972. I > don't remember hearing Monitor on WCOP at the time but to be honest as > a 6-7 year old I wasn't looking for it either. I definitely remember listening to NBC on WCOP later than 1973. They were running monthly reruns of the 1950s science fiction anthology drama "X Minus One," which NBC was apparently running in order to preserve their rights to the name. And I remember listening to it in the livingroom of the apartment that I moved into in October 1973. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From heritageradio@msn.com Thu May 20 02:00:03 2010 From: heritageradio@msn.com (Thomas Heathwood) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 02:00:03 -0400 Subject: WCOP Country Message-ID: WCOP at 485 Boylston Street near Copley Square began airing country music segments in 1952 with the live Mon-Fri. afternoon hour feature, HAYLOFT JAMBOREE starring Nelson E. Bragg as host and M.C. and a studio full of country- style musicians who loved the publicity for their local gigs in Country-Western night-spots which were extremely popular at the time. Nelson had been a staff announcer at WCOP for some years and found himself with a tremendously popular show. WCOP quickly added an evening record-show also featuring Bragg. Soon after, live country shows with "Jamboree" personnel and special "guests" from top record labels and bigtime southern radio shows, like The Grand Ole Opry" became frequent occurrences at local venues like Mechanics Hall, Boston Arena,, Paragon Park and others. These live shows were, of course, also broadcast live on WCOP - usually on Saturday nights. thanks to sponsors like Pepsi-Cola and Beacon Wax. The country format lasted for years, and expanded to a regional network of small radio stations in New England which, naturally, was called The Hayloft Jamboree Network. For it's time, it was the outstanding live feature of 'COP. Later Jack Chase and Nelso moved to WBZ-TV and the morning show where they were welcomed as old friends by many a viewer who had heard the on 'COP for years. Tom Heathwood - Heritage Radio Theatre - The Olde Tyme Radio Network www.VintageRadioPlace.com/broadcast 5/20 From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu May 20 03:22:58 2010 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 03:22:58 -0400 Subject: Salem News: WBOQ drops Jackie Ankeles Message-ID: <8CCC60468202CD4-FB4-489C@web-mmc-d09.sysops.aol.com> http://www.salemnews.com/opinion/x712214260/Letter-Local-radio-personality-bids-listeners-farewell >>This week I was informed that due to changes in the radio industry and in the direction of the station, my daily midday program was being cancelled ? effective immediately...Because my departure was so sudden (it's the nature of the business), I didn't get to say goodbye to my loyal listeners. After 22 years Jackie is out at North Shore 104.9. She thanks her listeners in this letter to the Salem News. From kvahey@gmail.com Thu May 20 08:18:05 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 07:18:05 -0500 Subject: Salem News: WBOQ drops Jackie Ankeles In-Reply-To: <8CCC60468202CD4-FB4-489C@web-mmc-d09.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCC60468202CD4-FB4-489C@web-mmc-d09.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Simon sold out in 1988? I thought it was a little later than that. I last visited him in April of that year and he gave no hint he was cashing in. On 5/20/10, raccoonradio@mail.com wrote: > > > > http://www.salemnews.com/opinion/x712214260/Letter-Local-radio-personality-bids-listeners-farewell > >>>This week I was informed that due to changes in the radio industry and in >>> the direction of the station, my daily midday program was being cancelled >>> ? effective immediately...Because my departure was so sudden (it's the >>> nature of the business), I didn't get to say goodbye to my loyal >>> listeners. > > After 22 years Jackie is out at North Shore 104.9. She thanks her listeners > in this letter to the Salem News. > > -- Sent from my mobile device From markwa1ion@aol.com Thu May 20 09:11:12 2010 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 09:11:12 -0400 Subject: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) Message-ID: <8CCC6350E6249AF-21BC-6F05@webmail-d014.sysops.aol.com> 950 with 5 kW out of Lexington at night would make sense since it could be beamed southeasterly directly at downtown missing all the co-channel stations (WPEN-PA, WIBX-NY, deactivated Canadians such as NS, etc.). The daytime ND out of Saugus should be retained: it is very efficient. Day operation out of Lexington would have to be directional to protect Fitchburg 960 and Webster 940 from what could otherwise be greater adjacent channel interference compared to the present. This would actually reduce WROL's effectiveness over much of the coverage area: by the time you get out Route 2 to Concord and Acton, the 950 signal would be weaker than it is now (thanks to the required null at WFGL). It is unlikely that the day signal that WROL now produces on the North Shore, South Shore, and Cape Cod with 5 kW in Saugus could even be replicated with 50 kW out of Lexington. Even if the same groundwave could be established, there would be more skywave self-interference at early morning and late afternoon drivetimes since the skip from 50 kW would more easily compete with an overland groundwave signal than skip from 5 kW competes with an overwater groundwave at the same distance. Short story: leave the day set-up alone but do investigate 5 kW directional at night aimed into a tight window bounded by Revere Beach on the north and the Braintree split (or the 24 &128 junction) on the south. As far as 1150 goes, I don't think much can be done to jack up power there unless 1170 Orleans is bought and taken dark (or used as an 1150 relay?). Southeast is where the signal has to be beamed; other directions can be heavily suppressed and you're still gaining coverage especially inside Boston office, factory, and apartment buildings that may now have (at best) spotty reception with the 5 kW signal. All the other stations on and around 1150 can be protected, even Norfolk 1170 (south) and 1160 Maine / 1140 NS / 1150 defunct NB (northeast). Stations more westerly such as Concord 1120, NY 1130, and the co-channels (Middletown CT, Utica NY, Wilmington DE, inland Canadians) should be easy enough to protect with a bit of null tightening in the existing pattern and aided a bit by the general inefficiency of the site in those directions thanks to Prospect Hill, Bear Hill, Annursnac Hill, and Zion Hill hemming in things along an arc from southwest to northwest. What would be a fly in the ointment would be if the Providence area station goes on 1140. It would likely, at one channel away, be more a problem than Norfolk in basically the same direction and closer (but two channels away). Norfolk is a peanut whistle that Salem could buy out and take dark (or use to relay 1150) but the prospective RI station is likely to be better funded and intended to be in for the long haul since it will cover a substantially larger population that either of the two 1170 MA semi-locals. The 1510 site was mentioned. Has any idea been given to something diplexing out of there? It has a clearer shot down the Charles at Boston than the nearby Lexington site that has the south flank of Belmont Hill as a partial obstruction to hitting the zone from downtown Boston up Route 1 north into Chelsea and Revere. I am surprised that the FM tower at the Lexington site is going unused when cell companies, wireless internet providers, governmental departments, educational institutions, hospitals, and large private companies such as Raytheon always seem to be clamoring for new towers to address their telecommunication infrastructure needs. Maybe nearby Bear Hill off 128 in Waltham is already loaded up with enough stuff as to make the Lexington site less in demand. Mark Connelly (WA1ION) << WWDJ (I think those are the calls du jour) is a Class B AM. The maximum for Class Bs is 50 kW. But an increase would be difficult. First, the Canadians, though dark, must be protected as if they were still there. Closer to home, there is an 1150 in Middletown CT and there are 1170s in Norfolk and Orleans MA and Vernon CT. There is also an 1120 in Concord MA and an 1180 in Hope Valley RI. I rather doubt whether much could be done at the present site and anything that required adding or moving towers at that site would almost certainly be out of the question. The site is, after all, in snooty, NIMBY Lexington and abuts almost as snooty and probably just as NIMBY Belmont. Remember also that 1470 uses the same towers as WWDJ. Before Salem returned its CP that would have added 5-kW night service for WROL from its existing Saugus site (because of WROL's high NIF, the increase from 90W ND-N to 5 kW DA-N would have added scarcely any population within the NIF contour), I speculated about a nighttime diplex of WROL and what is now (I think) WWDJ. The stations that require nighttime protection on 950 and 1150 are in pretty much the same places and 1150 would have made out a little better than 950 because of a significantly lower NIF. But realistically, a more interesting question to speculate about is the possibility of a 950/1150/1470 nighttime triplex from the Lexington site. From the Lexington site, 950's entire NIF would fall over land allowing service to actual people, rather than fish. The problem with triplexes is that they are very expensive and tricky to pull off. Also, the presence of the 50 kW 1510 only about a mile away causes some hellish intermodulation and reradiation problems. To top it off, neither Salem, the primary lessee, nor Multicultural, the secondary lessee, owns the Lexington site. It is owned by American Tower Systems. AFAIK, ATS also owns the buildings and all of the towers (the three self-supporting AM towers and the lone, currently unused, FM tower). ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu May 20 10:38:06 2010 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 10:38:06 -0400 Subject: Salem News: WBOQ drops Jackie Ankeles In-Reply-To: References: <8CCC60468202CD4-FB4-489C@web-mmc-d09.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CCC64131DAF6E3-E40-6A74@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> This NY Times article was dated a month after that (this was May of 88, and you said you were there in Apr of 88) http://www.nytimes.com/1988/05/15/us/crusty-voice-quitting-after-24-years.html?pagewanted=1 >>The new owner, Douglas H. Tanger, plans to hire 10 people to operate the station 24 hours a day. Mr. Tanger says he intends to honor Mr. Geller's wish and keep the station classical. Ankeles' article says she started when they were classical (under Tanger ownership) 22 years ago so she must have been one of the "10 people" hired, acc to the article -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Vahey To: raccoonradio@mail.com; boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 8:18 am Subject: Re: Salem News: WBOQ drops Jackie Ankeles Simon sold out in 1988? I thought it was a little later than that. I last visited him in April of that year and he gave no hint he was cashing in. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu May 20 10:47:42 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 10:47:42 -0400 Subject: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) References: <8CCC6350E6249AF-21BC-6F05@webmail-d014.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <71C515F731EE4A5B8D68AAF1EB2FCF50@SatU205S5044> Absolutely. The Saugus site is golden for daytime ND operation and it would be crazy to abandon it, but it is not well suited to the night pattern that 950 requires. Whether WROL could get 5 kW at night from the existing towers in Lexington is open to question, though. My guess is no. Assuming all of the other problems that I enumerated could be dealt with (most notably, the complexity and cost of a triplex with 1150 and 1470 and the problems due to proximity to 1510), you have to figure that 950 would be forced to take whatever power the FCC would agree to (2.5 kW is a good guess, but it is only a guess). Also, the CoL would have to change, presumably to Belmont. But with the 37 mV/m NIF, the NIF contour might not cover 80% of Belmont's population? One thing that would help is that the area around Belmont HS has few permanent residents and it's at the opposite end of town, so there is a good chance that the NIF could cover 80% of the population of Belmont even if it covered a smaller fraction of the town's area. Another stopper might be whether the ATUs could fit inside of the existing buildings at the tower bases. If separate ATU buildings were required, I could see Lexington denying a building permit, even though those little buildings would have no material effect on the appearance of the property. However, maybe the ATUs could fit in weatherproof enclosures affixed to the exterior walls of the existing ATU buildings. As for 1140 in Providence, unless Langer has managed to get the CP tolled, it is now dead; more than three years have passed since it was granted. I guess Langer wanted to steer clear of the 990 site because of its toxic-waste problems, which might become a "gift" to him from Davidson if he were ever to use the site. The 990 site is in more or less the right place for 1140, has the right number of towers (six), and could possibly be used to synthesize acceptable patterns even though the tower configuation is different from what Langer had proposed for 1140. It would definitely be possible to use the 990 towers to synthesize patterns of the correct general shape for 1140, but unless the powers were reduced from those specified in Langer's 1140 CP, the required protections might not be achievable. Also, the 990 site is a little further from Greenville (1140's CoL) than is Langer's proposed site. Is there another community that Langer could use as his CoL? Burrillville (or however it's spelled)? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:11 AM Subject: WCOP (was ABC in Boston) 950 with 5 kW out of Lexington at night would make sense since it could be beamed southeasterly directly at downtown missing all the co-channel stations (WPEN-PA, WIBX-NY, deactivated Canadians such as NS, etc.). The daytime ND out of Saugus should be retained: it is very efficient. Short story: leave the day set-up alone but do investigate 5 kW directional at night aimed into a tight window bounded by Revere Beach on the north and the Braintree split (or the 24 &128 junction) on the south. From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Thu May 20 13:34:23 2010 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:34:23 -0400 Subject: Salem News: WBOQ drops Jackie Ankeles References: <8CCC60468202CD4-FB4-489C@web-mmc-d09.sysops.aol.com> <8CCC64131DAF6E3-E40-6A74@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I believe she was one of the original ten. I joined the "BOQ sales staff in 1989 and she was already on staff . She was a consummate professional and a terrific person. After that length of service she deserved better than "immediate termination." Such is the way of radio. By the way. I found this on http://nelson.oldradio.com/ WHDH, Boston, originally had studios on the water in Gloucester. Its calls never really stood for We Haul Dead Haddock, but it was often said that they did. Does anyone know if this is accurate? Thanks, Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Salem News: WBOQ drops Jackie Ankeles This NY Times article was dated a month after that (this was May of 88, and you said you were there in Apr of 88) http://www.nytimes.com/1988/05/15/us/crusty-voice-quitting-after-24-years.html?pagewanted=1 >>The new owner, Douglas H. Tanger, plans to hire 10 people to operate the >>station 24 hours a day. Mr. Tanger says he intends to honor Mr. Geller's >>wish and keep the station classical. Ankeles' article says she started when they were classical (under Tanger ownership) 22 years ago so she must have been one of the "10 people" hired, acc to the article -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Vahey To: raccoonradio@mail.com; boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 8:18 am Subject: Re: Salem News: WBOQ drops Jackie Ankeles Simon sold out in 1988? I thought it was a little later than that. I last visited him in April of that year and he gave no hint he was cashing in. From kvahey@gmail.com Fri May 21 21:00:24 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 20:00:24 -0500 Subject: Dick Summer interview Message-ID: I stumbled across this on Grub Street and Dick talks about his many stops. Tells the reason he quit WMEX which is a typical Mac Richmond story. http://www.grubstreet.ca/articles/interviews/summer2008.htm -- Sent from my mobile device From lspin@comcast.net Mon May 24 22:31:05 2010 From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 22:31:05 -0400 Subject: Dick Summer interview In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009c01cafbb2$53f3d680$fbdb8380$@net> That's a great interview. I loved reading Dick's insights into radio - especially the Boston parts! It was also interesting that I wasn't always sure who was interviewing whom. Thanks for sharing! -Lou -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Vahey Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:00 PM To: (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest Subject: Dick Summer interview I stumbled across this on Grub Street and Dick talks about his many stops. Tells the reason he quit WMEX which is a typical Mac Richmond story. http://www.grubstreet.ca/articles/interviews/summer2008.htm -- Sent from my mobile device From gary@garysicecream.com Tue May 25 16:18:46 2010 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 16:18:46 -0400 Subject: Did Ch 7 melt down again? Message-ID: <053601cafc47$7b43f810$71cbe830$@com> I was watching News 7 at 4pm - everything was fine. After a story about an Everett fire they suddenly went to MSNBC and now at 4:18 they are still with MSNBC (in a spot cluster). Hmmmmmm From m_carney@yahoo.com Tue May 25 16:53:38 2010 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Did Ch 7 melt down again? In-Reply-To: <053601cafc47$7b43f810$71cbe830$@com> References: <053601cafc47$7b43f810$71cbe830$@com> Message-ID: <828069.66465.qm@web53302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> They're back on @ 4:50 - Pete Bouchard just gave the weather. ________________________________ From: Gary's Ice Cream To: Boston radio e-mail list Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 4:18:46 PM Subject: Did Ch 7 melt down again? I was watching News 7 at 4pm - everything was fine.? After a story about an Everett fire they suddenly went to MSNBC and now at 4:18 they are still with MSNBC (in a spot cluster).? Hmmmmmm From kvahey@gmail.com Tue May 25 15:49:02 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 14:49:02 -0500 Subject: Question about NBC - LA-Burbank Message-ID: Anybody know what NBC plans to do with the new studio that was built for Conan? Jay apparently doesn't want to leave Burbank so. At 30 Rock my understanding is Fallon is using 6-A ( the old Carson and WNBC News studio) so what happens to 6-B. -- Sent from my mobile device From scott@fybush.com Tue May 25 17:16:09 2010 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 17:16:09 -0400 Subject: Question about NBC - LA-Burbank In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BFC3E19.80804@fybush.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: > Anybody know what NBC plans to do with the new studio that was built > for Conan? Jay apparently doesn't want to leave Burbank so. > > At 30 Rock my understanding is Fallon is using 6-A ( the old Carson > and WNBC News studio) so what happens to 6-B. Dr. Oz is in 6B now. The Conan set was struck immediately after the show ended, and that purpose-built studio now sits empty at Universal. I understand there was some talk about TBS leasing it for the new Conan show, but nothing has been decided. Jay is indeed married to Burbank. They moved him from studio 3 to studio 11 when he moved from Tonight to 10 PM, and he stayed in studio 11 when he went back to 11:35. Studio 3 at Burbank, sadly, is now being used for storage. Studio 1 across the hall, which was Carson's Burbank home, is now used by Access Hollywood. s From gary@garysicecream.com Tue May 25 19:22:24 2010 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 19:22:24 -0400 Subject: Did Ch 7 melt down again? In-Reply-To: <6B8B4FB6-2994-43DA-BFB1-D14A833AB37E@mac.com> References: <053601cafc47$7b43f810$71cbe830$@com> <6B8B4FB6-2994-43DA-BFB1-D14A833AB37E@mac.com> Message-ID: <055401cafc61$22350dd0$669f2970$@com> All the more reason to blame you! Had you been there it might not have happened. (I sound like management now don't I) -----Original Message----- From: Larry Weil [mailto:kc1ih@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:46 PM To: Gary's Ice Cream Cc: Boston radio e-mail list Subject: Re: Did Ch 7 melt down again? Don't blame me, I'm off today! Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH Sent from my iPod Touch Big freekin deal! On May 25, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > I was watching News 7 at 4pm - everything was fine. After a story > about an > Everett fire they suddenly went to MSNBC and now at 4:18 they are > still with > MSNBC (in a spot cluster). Hmmmmmm > > > > > > From kc1ih@mac.com Tue May 25 18:45:40 2010 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 18:45:40 -0400 Subject: Did Ch 7 melt down again? In-Reply-To: <053601cafc47$7b43f810$71cbe830$@com> References: <053601cafc47$7b43f810$71cbe830$@com> Message-ID: <6B8B4FB6-2994-43DA-BFB1-D14A833AB37E@mac.com> Don't blame me, I'm off today! Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH Sent from my iPod Touch Big freekin deal! On May 25, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > I was watching News 7 at 4pm - everything was fine. After a story > about an > Everett fire they suddenly went to MSNBC and now at 4:18 they are > still with > MSNBC (in a spot cluster). Hmmmmmm > > > > > > From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue May 25 19:56:50 2010 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 19:56:50 -0400 Subject: Laquidara Nominated to Nat'l Radio Hall of Fame Message-ID: <0F75A59BAAF74BF4B8D0D88CF87E215D@Family> Congrats to Charles Laquidara on his nomination to the National Radio Hall of Fame in the Local/Regional Pioneer category, along with Gary Burbank, Steve Dahl & Ralph Emery Balloting starts June 14 and ends August 1 (midnight). Free & open to the public, voting does require an online registraton. www.radiohof.org Inductions scheduled for 11/6 in Chicago. --Chuck Igo From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Wed May 26 09:54:31 2010 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:54:31 -0400 Subject: New WBOQ Mid-Day Host Message-ID: <0A7918CD72494D2B939FED835B937A44@YOURbcbbe822ed> >From the Gloucester Times it looks like WBOQ has wasted no time replacing Jackie Ankeles. Well, at least it's not automated programming. http://www.gloucestertimes.com/local/x1414114552/Radio-station-launches-new-midday-show-with-local-host Ted Larsen From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Wed May 26 09:54:31 2010 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:54:31 -0400 Subject: New WBOQ Mid-Day Host Message-ID: <0A7918CD72494D2B939FED835B937A44@YOURbcbbe822ed> >From the Gloucester Times it looks like WBOQ has wasted no time replacing Jackie Ankeles. Well, at least it's not automated programming. http://www.gloucestertimes.com/local/x1414114552/Radio-station-launches-new-midday-show-with-local-host Ted Larsen From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed May 26 10:50:34 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:50:34 -0400 Subject: Anybody know when/if WXKS (AM), WRCA, and/or WUNR plan to switch on AM IBOC? Message-ID: <49115C730EA04E5994BB6CA09D7FA3B1@SatU205S5044> I have it on reliable authority that when all three stations were built at 750 Sawmill Brook Parkway, they all had everything necessary at the transmitter end to run IBOC. Except for WXKS, the studio end may be a different story, however. I had speculated that the stations might be waiting for a year to elapse after they received their licenses to cover before they switched on IBOC, because, if IBOC operation did not commence until after the year was up, the stations might not have to rectify any new complaints of interference that might result from IBOC operation. The FCC rules appear to state that, after a new AM station is built or a significant change is made to an existing station, the station(s) must, at their own expense, satisfy all complaints of interference received within the ensuing year from listeners within the 1V/m "blanketing" contour. I don't think that turning on IBOC is considered to be a significant change. Well, I may be mistaken but I think that all three stations were licensed no later than May 31, 2009. So did CCU, Beasley, and Champion lose interest in IBOC? The first two have been very vocal advocates. Or are studio mods holding them up? Or is there another explanation? As I said, the cost of transmitter-site mods should not be an issue because everything necessary at the Tx end is supposedly in place and ready to be switched on. But, of course, May 31 is still a few days away--and I could have the date wrong. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From nostaticatall@charter.net Wed May 26 10:06:47 2010 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:06:47 -0400 Subject: Laquidara Nominated to Nat'l Radio Hall of Fame In-Reply-To: <0F75A59BAAF74BF4B8D0D88CF87E215D@Family> References: <0F75A59BAAF74BF4B8D0D88CF87E215D@Family> Message-ID: NIce nomination for Charles, but he doesn't have a prayer of winning in this grouping. I'll vote for him though! -Dave Tomm On May 25, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Chuck Igo wrote: > Congrats to Charles Laquidara on his nomination to the National > Radio Hall of Fame in the Local/Regional Pioneer category, along > with Gary Burbank, Steve Dahl & Ralph Emery > From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Wed May 26 15:52:12 2010 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (revdoug1@myfairpoint.net) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 15:52:12 -0400 Subject: Listo Fisher Message-ID: <20100526155212.cpefy92cnd44w8so@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Does anyone know what Listo Fisher is doing nowadays, since he left WCRB? Just curious. I know he's heavily involved in community activities, but is he doing any broadcasting? -Doug From kvahey@gmail.com Thu May 27 18:48:29 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:48:29 -0500 Subject: Glenn Ordway's home office Message-ID: I find this amusing as the Big O had trouble running cart machines at WITS http://www.electronichouse.com/article/sports_radio_host_has_high-tech_home/C154 -- Sent from my mobile device From kvahey@gmail.com Thu May 27 19:26:23 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 18:26:23 -0500 Subject: Question about NBC - LA-Burbank In-Reply-To: <4BFC3E19.80804@fybush.com> References: <4BFC3E19.80804@fybush.com> Message-ID: Were the seats still in 6A when WNBC was using it???? On 5/25/10, Scott Fybush wrote: > Kevin Vahey wrote: >> Anybody know what NBC plans to do with the new studio that was built >> for Conan? Jay apparently doesn't want to leave Burbank so. >> >> At 30 Rock my understanding is Fallon is using 6-A ( the old Carson >> and WNBC News studio) so what happens to 6-B. > > Dr. Oz is in 6B now. > > The Conan set was struck immediately after the show ended, and that > purpose-built studio now sits empty at Universal. I understand there was > some talk about TBS leasing it for the new Conan show, but nothing has > been decided. > > Jay is indeed married to Burbank. They moved him from studio 3 to studio > 11 when he moved from Tonight to 10 PM, and he stayed in studio 11 when > he went back to 11:35. > > Studio 3 at Burbank, sadly, is now being used for storage. Studio 1 > across the hall, which was Carson's Burbank home, is now used by Access > Hollywood. > > s > > -- Sent from my mobile device From kvahey@gmail.com Fri May 28 11:27:09 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 10:27:09 -0500 Subject: Question about NBC - LA-Burbank In-Reply-To: <8CCCC8F7D2CC861-86C-1DB49@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com> References: <4BFC3E19.80804@fybush.com> <8CCCC8F7D2CC861-86C-1DB49@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: What few tapes exist of Carson in NY it is amazing how good the TK-44 looks 40 years later. The TK-43 was so bad NBC actually had remote trucks with Norelco cameras. RCA never recovered. On 5/28/10, tk41c@aol.com wrote: > > What a waste-Studio 3 for storage. > > When I was at NBC, Burbank was a 24/7 TV factory. After the GE takeover, > much of that work went to CBS TV City in LA. In fact, they built two more > stages for all the work. > > Studio 6B had permanent seating that was demolished for "Newscenter 4." > During the demolition, none of the studio equipment was covered, including > cameras. It was my job to vacuum out the TK-44 cameras after demolition. > > Studio 6A had collapsable seating that was used for Letterman, Conan, etc. > > J Ballard > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Vahey > To: Scott Fybush ; (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest > > Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 7:26 pm > Subject: Re: Question about NBC - LA-Burbank > > > Were the seats still in 6A when WNBC was using it???? > > On 5/25/10, Scott Fybush wrote: > Kevin Vahey wrote: >> Anybody know what NBC plans to do with the new studio that was built >> for Conan? Jay apparently doesn't want to leave Burbank so. >> >> At 30 Rock my understanding is Fallon is using 6-A ( the old Carson >> and WNBC News studio) so what happens to 6-B. > > Dr. Oz is in 6B now. > > The Conan set was struck immediately after the show ended, and that > purpose-built studio now sits empty at Universal. I understand there was > some talk about TBS leasing it for the new Conan show, but nothing has > been decided. > > Jay is indeed married to Burbank. They moved him from studio 3 to studio > 11 when he moved from Tonight to 10 PM, and he stayed in studio 11 when > he went back to 11:35. > > Studio 3 at Burbank, sadly, is now being used for storage. Studio 1 > across the hall, which was Carson's Burbank home, is now used by Access > Hollywood. > > s > > > -- > ent from my mobile device > > -- Sent from my mobile device From kvahey@gmail.com Fri May 28 12:09:33 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 11:09:33 -0500 Subject: Question about NBC - LA-Burbank In-Reply-To: <8CCCC95C3ACE4C5-86C-1DF56@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com> References: <4BFC3E19.80804@fybush.com> <8CCCC8F7D2CC861-86C-1DB49@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com> <8CCCC95C3ACE4C5-86C-1DF56@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: If memory serves - Ch 4 and 27 had 44's (4 also took over the KYW mobile unit when they had the Sox (also 44's) 38 for remotes used 44's and then 47's. (They also junked GE) When 7 junked the GE's they went with either 45-46 On 5/28/10, tk41c@aol.com wrote: > > I recall visiting Studio 1 in Burbank, and chatting with video Operator Bob > Pattison about lighting levels with the new TK-44s over the previous TK-41s. > They were still using 400 FC on the set, and his irises were running at > F11! F11!! > > The 41s could make good pictures, if the VO knew what he was doing. Get a > copy of Sinatra, "A Man and his Music." The 41s used on that show were > driven by the legendary Jerry Smith-The Man With The Calibrated Eyeballs." > Jerry was/is outstanding-the best in Hollywood. Every Burbank show > requested him. > > The audio was mixed by another legend-Bill Cole. > > I must disagree with your statement that RCA never recovered after the 43. > RCA sold well over 800 TK-44s, producing 10 shop orders of these cameras. > > Susequent orders for the 45 and 46 were not as great. The last RCA camera, > the 47, sold over 500. NBC NY and Burbank had these in service. > > Then the Japanese took over, although Thomson had a good run with the > LDK-6000 cameras. Sony is now the dominant studio camera provider, as they > are expert deal makers. Ikeagmi is barely holding on. > > NBC did actually place two TK-43s into service in Studio 5 HN, the Instant > News studio. They did not last too long, and were replaced by TK-44Bs. RCA > put pressure on NBC to buy42/43s, as customers wanted to know why the 42/43s > were not used by a division of RCA. > > I was at RCA the day-OCt 3 or 5 1985 when the announcement was made that RCA > was exiting the broadcast business. A very sad day. RCA was still supply > the 47s to NBC, and they were completed at NBC's New York Engineering lab by > yours truly. > > JB > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Vahey > To: tk41c@aol.com; scott@fybush.com; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 11:27 am > Subject: Re: Question about NBC - LA-Burbank > > > What few tapes exist of Carson in NY it is amazing how good the TK-44 > ooks 40 years later. > The TK-43 was so bad NBC actually had remote trucks with Norelco > ameras. RCA never recovered. > On 5/28/10, tk41c@aol.com wrote: > > What a waste-Studio 3 for storage. > > When I was at NBC, Burbank was a 24/7 TV factory. After the GE takeover, > much of that work went to CBS TV City in LA. In fact, they built two more > stages for all the work. > > Studio 6B had permanent seating that was demolished for "Newscenter 4." > During the demolition, none of the studio equipment was covered, including > cameras. It was my job to vacuum out the TK-44 cameras after demolition. > > Studio 6A had collapsable seating that was used for Letterman, Conan, etc. > > J Ballard > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Vahey > To: Scott Fybush ; (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest > > Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 7:26 pm > Subject: Re: Question about NBC - LA-Burbank > > > Were the seats still in 6A when WNBC was using it???? > > On 5/25/10, Scott Fybush wrote: > Kevin Vahey wrote: >> Anybody know what NBC plans to do with the new studio that was built >> for Conan? Jay apparently doesn't want to leave Burbank so. >> >> At 30 Rock my understanding is Fallon is using 6-A ( the old Carson >> and WNBC News studio) so what happens to 6-B. > > Dr. Oz is in 6B now. > > The Conan set was struck immediately after the show ended, and that > purpose-built studio now sits empty at Universal. I understand there was > some talk about TBS leasing it for the new Conan show, but nothing has > been decided. > > Jay is indeed married to Burbank. They moved him from studio 3 to studio > 11 when he moved from Tonight to 10 PM, and he stayed in studio 11 when > he went back to 11:35. > > Studio 3 at Burbank, sadly, is now being used for storage. Studio 1 > across the hall, which was Carson's Burbank home, is now used by Access > Hollywood. > > s > > > -- > ent from my mobile device > > > -- > ent from my mobile device > > -- Sent from my mobile device From tk41c@aol.com Fri May 28 11:13:40 2010 From: tk41c@aol.com (tk41c@aol.com) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 11:13:40 -0400 Subject: Question about NBC - LA-Burbank In-Reply-To: References: <4BFC3E19.80804@fybush.com> Message-ID: <8CCCC8F7D2CC861-86C-1DB49@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com> What a waste-Studio 3 for storage. When I was at NBC, Burbank was a 24/7 TV factory. After the GE takeover, much of that work went to CBS TV City in LA. In fact, they built two more stages for all the work. Studio 6B had permanent seating that was demolished for "Newscenter 4." During the demolition, none of the studio equipment was covered, including cameras. It was my job to vacuum out the TK-44 cameras after demolition. Studio 6A had collapsable seating that was used for Letterman, Conan, etc. J Ballard -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Vahey To: Scott Fybush ; (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 7:26 pm Subject: Re: Question about NBC - LA-Burbank Were the seats still in 6A when WNBC was using it???? On 5/25/10, Scott Fybush wrote: Kevin Vahey wrote: > Anybody know what NBC plans to do with the new studio that was built > for Conan? Jay apparently doesn't want to leave Burbank so. > > At 30 Rock my understanding is Fallon is using 6-A ( the old Carson > and WNBC News studio) so what happens to 6-B. Dr. Oz is in 6B now. The Conan set was struck immediately after the show ended, and that purpose-built studio now sits empty at Universal. I understand there was some talk about TBS leasing it for the new Conan show, but nothing has been decided. Jay is indeed married to Burbank. They moved him from studio 3 to studio 11 when he moved from Tonight to 10 PM, and he stayed in studio 11 when he went back to 11:35. Studio 3 at Burbank, sadly, is now being used for storage. Studio 1 across the hall, which was Carson's Burbank home, is now used by Access Hollywood. s -- ent from my mobile device From tk41c@aol.com Fri May 28 11:58:35 2010 From: tk41c@aol.com (tk41c@aol.com) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 11:58:35 -0400 Subject: Question about NBC - LA-Burbank In-Reply-To: References: <4BFC3E19.80804@fybush.com><8CCCC8F7D2CC861-86C-1DB49@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CCCC95C3ACE4C5-86C-1DF56@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com> I recall visiting Studio 1 in Burbank, and chatting with video Operator Bob Pattison about lighting levels with the new TK-44s over the previous TK-41s. They were still using 400 FC on the set, and his irises were running at F11! F11!! The 41s could make good pictures, if the VO knew what he was doing. Get a copy of Sinatra, "A Man and his Music." The 41s used on that show were driven by the legendary Jerry Smith-The Man With The Calibrated Eyeballs." Jerry was/is outstanding-the best in Hollywood. Every Burbank show requested him. The audio was mixed by another legend-Bill Cole. I must disagree with your statement that RCA never recovered after the 43. RCA sold well over 800 TK-44s, producing 10 shop orders of these cameras. Susequent orders for the 45 and 46 were not as great. The last RCA camera, the 47, sold over 500. NBC NY and Burbank had these in service. Then the Japanese took over, although Thomson had a good run with the LDK-6000 cameras. Sony is now the dominant studio camera provider, as they are expert deal makers. Ikeagmi is barely holding on. NBC did actually place two TK-43s into service in Studio 5 HN, the Instant News studio. They did not last too long, and were replaced by TK-44Bs. RCA put pressure on NBC to buy42/43s, as customers wanted to know why the 42/43s were not used by a division of RCA. I was at RCA the day-OCt 3 or 5 1985 when the announcement was made that RCA was exiting the broadcast business. A very sad day. RCA was still supply the 47s to NBC, and they were completed at NBC's New York Engineering lab by yours truly. JB -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Vahey To: tk41c@aol.com; scott@fybush.com; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 11:27 am Subject: Re: Question about NBC - LA-Burbank What few tapes exist of Carson in NY it is amazing how good the TK-44 ooks 40 years later. The TK-43 was so bad NBC actually had remote trucks with Norelco ameras. RCA never recovered. On 5/28/10, tk41c@aol.com wrote: What a waste-Studio 3 for storage. When I was at NBC, Burbank was a 24/7 TV factory. After the GE takeover, much of that work went to CBS TV City in LA. In fact, they built two more stages for all the work. Studio 6B had permanent seating that was demolished for "Newscenter 4." During the demolition, none of the studio equipment was covered, including cameras. It was my job to vacuum out the TK-44 cameras after demolition. Studio 6A had collapsable seating that was used for Letterman, Conan, etc. J Ballard -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Vahey To: Scott Fybush ; (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 7:26 pm Subject: Re: Question about NBC - LA-Burbank Were the seats still in 6A when WNBC was using it???? On 5/25/10, Scott Fybush wrote: Kevin Vahey wrote: > Anybody know what NBC plans to do with the new studio that was built > for Conan? Jay apparently doesn't want to leave Burbank so. > > At 30 Rock my understanding is Fallon is using 6-A ( the old Carson > and WNBC News studio) so what happens to 6-B. Dr. Oz is in 6B now. The Conan set was struck immediately after the show ended, and that purpose-built studio now sits empty at Universal. I understand there was some talk about TBS leasing it for the new Conan show, but nothing has been decided. Jay is indeed married to Burbank. They moved him from studio 3 to studio 11 when he moved from Tonight to 10 PM, and he stayed in studio 11 when he went back to 11:35. Studio 3 at Burbank, sadly, is now being used for storage. Studio 1 across the hall, which was Carson's Burbank home, is now used by Access Hollywood. s -- ent from my mobile device -- ent from my mobile device From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sat May 29 04:13:11 2010 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 03:13:11 -0500 Subject: OT: I'll Be On The Air in Southern New England! Message-ID: I know this is a bit of shameless self promotion, but what the heck, right? I'll be on Cool Country 940 WGFP today (Saturday) 10am till 2pm and Monday 6am till 10am filling in for the vacationing Mike Roberts who's taking a long 3 day weekend. Normally he does Mornings 6 till 10am and Saturdays 10am to 2pm. He'll actually be filling in on Magic 106.7 WMJX Monday 6am to 10am, so I am taking his place on WGFP this holiday weekend. If you're within range in South Central Massachusetts, Northeastern Connecticut or Northern Rhode Island, tune in and check me out! By the way, with Montreal off the air, WGFP's 4 watts doesn't do that bad. A radio in Oxford is feeding a private webstream I'm using for airchecking purpose and right now, at 310am, the signal from 6 miles away is actually mildly listenable. Enjoy and happy Memorial day weekend. Paul Walker www.onairdj.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sat May 29 04:13:11 2010 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 03:13:11 -0500 Subject: OT: I'll Be On The Air in Southern New England! Message-ID: I know this is a bit of shameless self promotion, but what the heck, right? I'll be on Cool Country 940 WGFP today (Saturday) 10am till 2pm and Monday 6am till 10am filling in for the vacationing Mike Roberts who's taking a long 3 day weekend. Normally he does Mornings 6 till 10am and Saturdays 10am to 2pm. He'll actually be filling in on Magic 106.7 WMJX Monday 6am to 10am, so I am taking his place on WGFP this holiday weekend. If you're within range in South Central Massachusetts, Northeastern Connecticut or Northern Rhode Island, tune in and check me out! By the way, with Montreal off the air, WGFP's 4 watts doesn't do that bad. A radio in Oxford is feeding a private webstream I'm using for airchecking purpose and right now, at 310am, the signal from 6 miles away is actually mildly listenable. Enjoy and happy Memorial day weekend. Paul Walker www.onairdj.com