From raccoonradio@mail.com  Mon Mar  1 08:17:23 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 08:17:23 -0500
Subject: Red Eye Radio on WRKO part time
Message-ID: <8CC8758AA696963-1EF4-AAA@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com>


 

 Maybe Doug McIntyre's Red Eye Radio isn't off WRKO after all. It sounded like it was on last night (Sun night)
andthe WRKO sched says it'll be on Wed, Thu, and Fri nights while Howiereruns will be on Mon and Tue nights. As it turns out I heard AviNelson say on his Sat show that he would be in for Howie on Wed, Thu,and Fri of this week. So apparently WRKO will carry Red Eye on weekendsplus when Howie is off they will carry Red Eye instead of the Carr showrerun...


From friedbagels@gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 11:43:10 2010
From: friedbagels@gmail.com (Aaron Read)
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:43:10 -0500
Subject: Camden Maine station off the air due to storm damage
In-Reply-To: <12C8C875145C4B55900B61B2A7402F2D@DanPC>
References: <d09aef111002271323n44ebaf8atb920630e498a7ae1@mail.gmail.com>
	<12C8C875145C4B55900B61B2A7402F2D@DanPC>
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Dan Billings wrote:
> Camden was added, IMO, because it is an area with lots of well-off 
> retirees who will/can contribute to Public Radio.  Northwestern Maine 
> could use a signal lots more than one was needed in the midcoast area.
> 

I'm not going to pretend to understand the Maine market all THAT 
well...but I'd like to know your reasoning for why NW ME "could use" a 
signal MORE than the midcoast.  As far as I can see, until the Camden 
xmitter was brought on-line, neither area had much of a viable public 
radio signal.

> Also, due to budget problems, MPBN announced that they were going to 
> drop the Calais radio station, as well as TV signals in Calais and 
> Aroostook County.  Only political reaction that could have threatened 
> their state appropriation caused the network to reverse those decisions.
> 

I suspect it was the other way around: MPBN played chicken with the 
state appropriations board, and won.  In fairness, I have to think it 
was a desperation move, though...shutting down a transmitter doesn't 
really save all THAT much money, not compared to the earning power most 
stations have.   So it speaks to how unprofitable those markets 
(probably) are.


> Contributions top the need for a statewide network in terms of 
> importance to MPBN.
> 

Well, I did say "as much of the state's residents AS IS FEASIBLE" 
(emphasis mine).  If you know you're going to get more money and get it 
faster in Camden than in, say Moosehead Lake, then it's smart ROI to 
built in Camden first.  I would also opine that you'd have to build 
either one huge facility...or more likely, several quite-large 
facilities...to adequately cover NW ME thanks to the terrain issues and 
extremely low population density.  So maybe it's just not economically 
feasible to build out facilities in those regions at all?  Honestly I 
don't know; I'm just wildly speculating.

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------
Aaron Read                  |  Finger Lakes Public Radio
friedbagels@gmail.com       |  General Manager (WEOS & WHWS-LP)
Geneva, NY 14456            |  www.weos.org / www.whws.fm

From wollman@bimajority.org  Mon Mar  1 21:28:59 2010
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:28:59 -0500
Subject: Camden Maine station off the air due to storm damage
In-Reply-To: <4B8BEE9E.4010902@gmail.com>
References: <d09aef111002271323n44ebaf8atb920630e498a7ae1@mail.gmail.com>
	<12C8C875145C4B55900B61B2A7402F2D@DanPC>
	<4B8BEE9E.4010902@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <19340.30699.176710.746551@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:43:10 -0500, Aaron Read <friedbagels@gmail.com> said:

> I would also opine that you'd have to build either one huge
> facility...or more likely, several quite-large facilities...to
> adequately cover NW ME thanks to the terrain issues and extremely
> low population density.

Most of the population of northwestern Maine probably receives an
adequate signal from WMEA (90.1C Portland).  There are
sparsely-populated parts in the far northwest that are terrain-blocked
from WMEA; if you wanted to serve them, you'd probably have to build
another class-C on Sugarloaf -- but note that WTOS-FM is operated as
an Augusta station!

(Incidentally, I'd be willing to bet that before the 107.9C2 came on
in Skowhegan, the Rangeley Lake area got usable NPR service from WVPS.
Look at a topo map and note how the valleys in northern New Hampshire
line up almost perfectly to bring the Mansfield FMs into that part of
Maine.)

-GAWollman


From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net  Tue Mar  2 00:25:11 2010
From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (revdoug1@myfairpoint.net)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:25:11 -0500
Subject: Camden Maine station off the air due to storm damage
Message-ID: <20100302002511.5y7q8uj8yc8cw88g@webmail.myfairpoint.net>

I lived in west central Maine for over 30 years until my recent move to 
the coast.  The lack of adequate MPBN signal coverage in Somerset and 
Franklin Counties is something I used to complain long and loud about 
until I realized it was fruitless; no one at MPBN was listening, 
despite the fact that I and other complainants were supporting members. 
  Neither the 91.3 signal from Waterville nor the 90.1 from Portland 
nor the 90.9 from Bangor can be picked up very well north or west of 
Skowhegan.  When the Camden station went on the air several years ago, 
it only obviated the fact that MPBN's core supporters are the wealthy 
folk on the midcoast: the placing of a transmitter in Camden was 
principally a sop to them.  The subsequent proposed closing of the 
Calais station (in Washington County, Maine's poorest region) only made 
that more glaringly obvious. 

I remain an MPBN supporter, because its programming is one of very few 
alternatives offered against the dreck that characterizes much of Maine 
radio.  That having been said, however, I have to add that while MPBN 
purports to serve ALL of the State of Maine, it does not.   The Class C 
transmitter atop Sugarloaf is exactly what's needed, and if MPBN's 
trustees were really serious about their mission, they would find a way 
to see it built. 

-Doug



Quoting Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org>:
> <<On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:43:10 -0500, Aaron Read 
> <friedbagels@gmail.com> said:
>
> > I would also opine that you'd have to build either one huge
> > facility...or more likely, several quite-large facilities...to
> > adequately cover NW ME thanks to the terrain issues and extremely
> > low population density. 
>
> Most of the population of northwestern Maine probably receives an
> adequate signal from WMEA (90.1C Portland).  There are
> sparsely-populated parts in the far northwest that are terrain-blocked
> from WMEA; if you wanted to serve them, you'd probably have to build
> another class-C on Sugarloaf -- but note that WTOS-FM is operated as
> an Augusta station!
>
> (Incidentally, I'd be willing to bet that before the 107.9C2 came on
> in Skowhegan, the Rangeley Lake area got usable NPR service from WVPS. 
> Look at a topo map and note how the valleys in northern New Hampshire
> line up almost perfectly to bring the Mansfield FMs into that part of
> Maine.)
>
> -GAWollman
>




From raccoonradio@mail.com  Tue Mar  2 03:28:46 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:28:46 -0500
Subject: Charlie Manning replaces Rush on WRKO starting Monday
Message-ID: <8CC87F98309A688-A18-496@web-mmc-d04.sysops.aol.com>


 

 http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100302wrko_bumps_rush_limbaugh_for_charley_manning/

The Herald says Jason Wolfe confirms that Charlie Manning will replace Rush Limbaugh
starting this Monday. WXKS 1200 is scheduled to launch on April 1 but who knows, it could
start earlier...they already run Coast to Coast and you wonder if they'd let Rush be without a
Boston affiliate for almost a month. When C2C got dropped by WRKO (Premiere decision),
it took a couple days to migrate to 1200. (If he doesn't start Monday, there are Rush affiliates 
in Manchester NH, Worcester, Providence, and Cape Cod.)

Manning is a Republican consultant who will focus on politics.

In addition apparently Kiss 108's Matt Siegel mentioned on show that "this company has an AM station
that is going all talk, including Rush Limbaugh. I don't like his politics but I like him". He
said that Rush may call in to his show to help promote it.



From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 06:09:13 2010
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:09:13 -0600
Subject: Camden Maine station off the air due to storm damage
In-Reply-To: <20100302002511.5y7q8uj8yc8cw88g@webmail.myfairpoint.net>
References: <20100302002511.5y7q8uj8yc8cw88g@webmail.myfairpoint.net>
Message-ID: <8bce0fe81003020309y77b0f7c5vf8bfa236d8d7d9d2@mail.gmail.com>

"if they're really serious about their mission, they would find a way to see
it built"... and i admittedly know nothing about the radio land up there...
could a Class C1 that actually covers a sizebale population up there FIT in
frequency wise and be supported enough to make it worthwhile?

Paul Walker
www.onairdj.com
www.facebook.com/onairdj



On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:25 PM, <revdoug1@myfairpoint.net> wrote:

> I lived in west central Maine for over 30 years until my recent move to the
> coast.  The lack of adequate MPBN signal coverage in Somerset and Franklin
> Counties is something I used to complain long and loud about until I
> realized it was fruitless; no one at MPBN was listening, despite the fact
> that I and other complainants were supporting members.  Neither the 91.3
> signal from Waterville nor the 90.1 from Portland nor the 90.9 from Bangor
> can be picked up very well north or west of Skowhegan.  When the Camden
> station went on the air several years ago, it only obviated the fact that
> MPBN's core supporters are the wealthy folk on the midcoast: the placing of
> a transmitter in Camden was principally a sop to them.  The subsequent
> proposed closing of the Calais station (in Washington County, Maine's
> poorest region) only made that more glaringly obvious.
> I remain an MPBN supporter, because its programming is one of very few
> alternatives offered against the dreck that characterizes much of Maine
> radio.  That having been said, however, I have to add that while MPBN
> purports to serve ALL of the State of Maine, it does not.   The Class C
> transmitter atop Sugarloaf is exactly what's needed, and if MPBN's trustees
> were really serious about their mission, they would find a way to see it
> built.
> -Doug
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org>:
>
>> <<On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:43:10 -0500, Aaron Read <friedbagels@gmail.com>
>> said:
>>
>> > I would also opine that you'd have to build either one huge
>> > facility...or more likely, several quite-large facilities...to
>> > adequately cover NW ME thanks to the terrain issues and extremely
>> > low population density.
>> Most of the population of northwestern Maine probably receives an
>> adequate signal from WMEA (90.1C Portland).  There are
>> sparsely-populated parts in the far northwest that are terrain-blocked
>> from WMEA; if you wanted to serve them, you'd probably have to build
>> another class-C on Sugarloaf -- but note that WTOS-FM is operated as
>> an Augusta station!
>>
>> (Incidentally, I'd be willing to bet that before the 107.9C2 came on
>> in Skowhegan, the Rangeley Lake area got usable NPR service from WVPS.
>> Look at a topo map and note how the valleys in northern New Hampshire
>> line up almost perfectly to bring the Mansfield FMs into that part of
>> Maine.)
>>
>> -GAWollman
>>
>>
>
>
>

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Tue Mar  2 08:08:12 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:08:12 -0500
Subject: Charlie Manning replaces Rush on WRKO starting Monday
References: <8CC87F98309A688-A18-496@web-mmc-d04.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <064A51E01BBA47B8997BA37C0AA18CEE@SatU205S5044>

That is, if Clear Channel doesn't fire Siegel for saying that he 
doesn't agree with Limbaugh's politics.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <raccoonradio@mail.com>
To: <boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 3:28 AM
Subject: Charlie Manning replaces Rush on WRKO starting Monday

In addition apparently Kiss 108's Matt Siegel mentioned on show that 
"this company has an AM station
that is going all talk, including Rush Limbaugh. I don't like his 
politics but I like him". He
said that Rush may call in to his show to help promote it.



From m_carney@yahoo.com  Tue Mar  2 08:12:39 2010
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:12:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Charlie Manning replaces Rush on WRKO starting Monday
In-Reply-To: <8CC87F98309A688-A18-496@web-mmc-d04.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CC87F98309A688-A18-496@web-mmc-d04.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <221615.75053.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Don't forget that WXKS 1200 will also be heard as an HD subchannel of KISS-108, which may be a reason why Matty is talking this up. I'm not sure how ratings are done on HD subs, but it's possible that any ratings?on HD-2 or 3 might be lumped in with the main channel. 


      

From xradioguy@yahoo.com  Tue Mar  2 08:37:20 2010
From: xradioguy@yahoo.com (Ari Alpert)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:37:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Rush Radio 1200
In-Reply-To: <064A51E01BBA47B8997BA37C0AA18CEE@SatU205S5044>
References: <8CC87F98309A688-A18-496@web-mmc-d04.sysops.aol.com>
	<064A51E01BBA47B8997BA37C0AA18CEE@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <970810.88070.qm@web110804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Looks like they're that closer to launching the web site at http://rushradio1200.com/main.html. Perhaps they will change ahead of schedule.

-Ari


      

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Tue Mar  2 08:39:55 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:39:55 -0500
Subject: Charlie Manning replaces Rush on WRKO starting Monday
References: <8CC87F98309A688-A18-496@web-mmc-d04.sysops.aol.com>
	<221615.75053.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A211AD175B9E465290C3C87CF6671839@SatU205S5044>

There is a technological issue that someone here must surely be able
to answer: Is the PPM encoding unique to each HD-n subchannel or does
a single encoded ID appear on all of the station's channels (analog
and digital)? If the latter, the portion of the the audience that is
listening to WXKS-FM HD-2 or -3 will be credited to Kiss, not to AM
1200. I imagine that the encoding must be unique to each
channel/sub-channel, but I don't _know_ that.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Maureen Carney" <m_carney@yahoo.com>
To: "Boston Radio Group" <boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: Charlie Manning replaces Rush on WRKO starting Monday


Don't forget that WXKS 1200 will also be heard as an HD subchannel of
KISS-108, which may be a reason why Matty is talking this up. I'm not
sure how ratings are done on HD subs, but it's possible that any
ratings on HD-2 or 3 might be lumped in with the main channel.




From dan.strassberg@att.net  Tue Mar  2 08:40:04 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:40:04 -0500
Subject: Charlie Manning replaces Rush on WRKO starting Monday
References: <8CC87F98309A688-A18-496@web-mmc-d04.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <C4244AEFF35A470EBA180C67FAAC2C54@SatU205S5044>

So WRKO replaces Limbaugh with a LOCAL show??? That's the BIG news! It
would surprise nobody if it were also to seal Tom Finneran's fate.
Entercom will use some of the $$$ they have been using to pay Finneran
to pay Manning. Now, if the rumors about Hillman from WAAF taking over
AM drive on WRKO are true, WRKO might not need Todd Feinburg, who has
been Finneran's sidekick. But maybe the plan is to make Feinburg
Manning's sidekick. After all, isn't this Manning's first gig as a
talk-show host (aside from the fill-ins he must have done)? Don't you
think he will need a foil to help fill all of those intervals when the
phones aren't ringing? Also, if Hillman moves to WRKO, will WAAF
simulcast WRKO in AM drive?

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 3:28 AM
Subject: Charlie Manning replaces Rush on WRKO starting Monday





 http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100302wrko_bumps_rush_limbaugh_for_charley_manning/TheHeraldsays Jason Wolfe confirms that Charlie Manning willreplaceRushLimbaughstarting this Monday. WXKS 1200 is scheduled tolaunch onApril 1 butwho knows, it couldstart earlier...they alreadyrun Coastto Coast and you wonder ifthey'd let Rush be without aBostonaffiliatefor almost a month. When C2C got dropped by WRKO(Premieredecision),ittook a couple days to migrate to 1200. (If he doesn'tstartMonday,there are Rush affiliatesin Manchester NH,Worcester,Providence, and Cape Cod.)Manning is a Republican consultantwho willfocus on politics.In addition apparently Kiss 108's MattSiegelmentioned on show that"this company has an AM stationthat isgoing alltalk, including Rush Limbaugh. I don't like hispolitics but Ilikehim". Hesaid that Rush may call in to his show to help promote it.

From sid@wrko.com  Tue Mar  2 08:54:21 2010
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 06:54:21 -0700
Subject: Charlie Manning replaces Rush on WRKO starting Monday
In-Reply-To: <A211AD175B9E465290C3C87CF6671839@SatU205S5044>
References: <8CC87F98309A688-A18-496@web-mmc-d04.sysops.aol.com>
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"There is a technological issue that someone here must surely be able
to answer: Is the PPM encoding unique to each HD-n subchannel or does
a single encoded ID appear on all of the station's channels (analog
and digital)? If the latter, the portion of the the audience that is
listening to WXKS-FM HD-2 or -3 will be credited to Kiss, not to AM
1200. I imagine that the encoding must be unique to each
channel/sub-channel, but I don't _know_ that."

Each individual audio stream MUST be separately encoded in order to receive credit for listening.  A stream that's not encoded gets no listening credit.

Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Brighton MA  02135-2040




From aerie.ma@comcast.net  Tue Mar  2 09:17:27 2010
From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:17:27 -0500
Subject: Charlie Manning replaces Rush on WRKO starting Monday
In-Reply-To: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533A05834@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>
References: <8CC87F98309A688-A18-496@web-mmc-d04.sysops.aol.com><221615.75053.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com><A211AD175B9E465290C3C87CF6671839@SatU205S5044>
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Should we infer from this that stations are not now encoding their secondary
HD streams? Or is this something that Arbitron does not yet report in the
"public" ratings but does report to the stations subscribing to its service?



Each individual audio stream MUST be separately encoded in order to receive
credit for listening.  A stream that's not encoded gets no listening credit.

Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Brighton MA  02135-2040




From sid@wrko.com  Tue Mar  2 10:10:57 2010
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:10:57 -0700
Subject: Charlie Manning replaces Rush on WRKO starting Monday
In-Reply-To: <28A9F90C7C024EE18A8563F2A8D6CBE4@CHEM214>
References: <8CC87F98309A688-A18-496@web-mmc-d04.sysops.aol.com><221615.75053.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com><A211AD175B9E465290C3C87CF6671839@SatU205S5044>
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"Should we infer from this that stations are not now encoding their secondary
HD streams? Or is this something that Arbitron does not yet report in the
"public" ratings but does report to the stations subscribing to its service?"

I can't speak for other companies, but all our analog-plus-HD primaries, HD secondaries and Internet streams are separately encoded.  You haven't seen numbers for the HD secondaries in the publicly-released ratings because none of them have enough of an audience to meet minimum reporting requirements.

Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Brighton MA  02135-2040




From aerie.ma@comcast.net  Tue Mar  2 10:31:24 2010
From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:31:24 -0500
Subject: Charlie Manning replaces Rush on WRKO starting Monday
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That actually surprises me a bit. 

I would think "FunkyTown" (aka Star 937) on WMKK-HD2 would do well since the
original Star 937 did reasonably well. And I would think the smooth jazz
format on WMJX-HD2 would show up in the ratings too. WCDJ and WOAZ didn't
top the charts certainly, but had a respectable dedicated audience. 

The latest public ratings for Boston even list WCBS-AM. Surely more people
must be listening to Boston HD than to a station 200 miles away. 

But then again, I have two HD radios and am not objective. HD radios are
still hard to find and, except for the little portable, cost too much.


"Should we infer from this that stations are not now encoding their
secondary
HD streams? Or is this something that Arbitron does not yet report in the
"public" ratings but does report to the stations subscribing to its
service?"

I can't speak for other companies, but all our analog-plus-HD primaries, HD
secondaries and Internet streams are separately encoded.  You haven't seen
numbers for the HD secondaries in the publicly-released ratings because none
of them have enough of an audience to meet minimum reporting requirements.

Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Brighton MA  02135-2040




From sid@wrko.com  Tue Mar  2 10:51:00 2010
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:51:00 -0700
Subject: Charlie Manning replaces Rush on WRKO starting Monday
In-Reply-To: <E27E86E508CA4E738FA5069C7D0CCB38@CHEM214>
References: <8CC87F98309A688-A18-496@web-mmc-d04.sysops.aol.com><221615.75053.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com><A211AD175B9E465290C3C87CF6671839@SatU205S5044><0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533A05834@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com><28A9F90C7C024EE18A8563F2A8D6CBE4@CHEM214>
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"That actually surprises me a bit. 

"I would think "FunkyTown" (aka Star 937) on WMKK-HD2 would do well since the
original Star 937 did reasonably well. And I would think the smooth jazz
format on WMJX-HD2 would show up in the ratings too. WCDJ and WOAZ didn't
top the charts certainly, but had a respectable dedicated audience. 

"The latest public ratings for Boston even list WCBS-AM. Surely more people
must be listening to Boston HD than to a station 200 miles away. 

"But then again, I have two HD radios and am not objective. HD radios are
still hard to find and, except for the little portable, cost too much."

Your last paragraph tells the story.  No HD secondary (at least not in any of the New England markets) has enough listening recorded via PPM or diary to meet minimum requirements for listing in the printed books or software, and that's mostly because not nearly enough people have the radios.  The programming on HD secondaries of niche formats is also an issue.  They didn't have the requisite numbers or ratings performance on main channels, so they're certainly not going to garner enough of an audience to show up in the ratings on signals which the vast majority of the potential audience can't hear.

Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Brighton MA  02135-2040




From gary@garysicecream.com  Tue Mar  2 11:01:19 2010
From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:01:19 -0500
Subject: WBZ is reporting a loss
Message-ID: <077501caba21$998ef350$ccacd9f0$@com>

WBZ radio is reporting that veteran weatherman Don Kent has died.



From raccoonradio@mail.com  Tue Mar  2 11:08:45 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:08:45 -0500
Subject: WBZ is reporting a loss
In-Reply-To: <077501caba21$998ef350$ccacd9f0$@com>
References: <077501caba21$998ef350$ccacd9f0$@com>
Message-ID: <8CC8839C4EAED89-1CF4-1336@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com>

Indeed was just about to post; RIP

http://wbztv.com/local/don.kent.dies.2.1530516.html

 


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary's Ice Cream <gary@garysicecream.com>
To: Boston radio e-mail list <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:01 am
Subject: WBZ is reporting a loss


WBZ radio is reporting that veteran weatherman Don Kent has died.



 

From paulranderson@charter.net  Tue Mar  2 11:26:32 2010
From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:26:32 -0500
Subject: WBZ is reporting a loss
In-Reply-To: <077501caba21$998ef350$ccacd9f0$@com>
References: <077501caba21$998ef350$ccacd9f0$@com>
Message-ID: <CE62711F-9B01-446A-BF36-F154222CD354@charter.net>

I can't believe it's been over 26 years since he retired from WBZ.  I would always record his full weather forecast that was on before the Today Show to watch when I got up.  He didn't have computer models or fancy graphics, but I'd take his forecasts even today, complete with the sometimes-malfunctioning sliding boards and Magic markers.  He knew of which he spoke.  There will never be anyone again like Don Kent.

Paul

From TVNETDUDE@aol.com  Tue Mar  2 18:32:58 2010
From: TVNETDUDE@aol.com (TVNETDUDE@aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:32:58 EST
Subject: WBZ is reporting a loss 
Message-ID: <b7bc.350f138c.38befa2a@aol.com>

That is sad news. I used to get up early every morning to watch Jack Chase  
and Don Kent on the Morning Almanac on Channel 4. They also had the guy 
that  used to sell Salad Master pans and during each demo he would beat the 
crap out  of a cheap pan.
 
Another piece of our generation gone.
 
Mike
 
 
In a message dated 3/2/2010 12:01:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
boston-radio-interest-request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org writes:

>>>WBZ radio is reporting that veteran weatherman Don Kent  has died.<<<<



From joe@attorneyross.com  Wed Mar  3 01:02:36 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:02:36 -0500
Subject: WBZ is reporting a loss
In-Reply-To: <077501caba21$998ef350$ccacd9f0$@com>
References: <077501caba21$998ef350$ccacd9f0$@com>
Message-ID: <4B8DFB7C.9824.6411DB@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 2 Mar 2010 at 11:01, Gary's Ice Cream wrote:

> WBZ radio is reporting that veteran weatherman Don Kent has died.
 
Yes, they had a really good look at his life on this evening's late 
news. 


-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 06:06:34 2010
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 05:06:34 -0600
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
Message-ID: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>

I decided to check it out this morning and unless Im doing something wrong,
it re-directs to ...get this.. ...www.yahoo.com as of 5:05am central.

Paul Walker
Marion, IL
www.onairdj.com
www.facebook.com/onairdj

From bob.bosra@demattia.net  Wed Mar  3 06:52:24 2010
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 06:52:24 -0500
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com>

I was checking it out yesterday after receiving the email telling us about
it.
I saw the home page and was able to click into several of  the other pages.
I clicked on "HOME" to go back to the top and got directed to yahoo.

Someone must have noticed us poking around the site and decided to hide it.

Very strange that a pre-production site would be available to the public
anyways.

-Bob


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> wrote:

> I decided to check it out this morning and unless Im doing something wrong,
> it re-directs to ...get this.. ...www.yahoo.com as of 5:05am central.
>
> Paul Walker
> Marion, IL
> www.onairdj.com
> www.facebook.com/onairdj
>

From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 06:06:34 2010
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 05:06:34 -0600
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
Message-ID: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>

I decided to check it out this morning and unless Im doing something wrong,
it re-directs to ...get this.. ...www.yahoo.com as of 5:05am central.

Paul Walker
Marion, IL
www.onairdj.com
www.facebook.com/onairdj

From xradioguy@yahoo.com  Wed Mar  3 10:29:20 2010
From: xradioguy@yahoo.com (Ari Alpert)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 07:29:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <430415.90358.qm@web110814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Globe reports that Rush leaving RKO and going to 1200 on Monday.

WKOX Lineup reported to be:
9A-12P Glenn Beck
12-3P Rush
3-6 Hannity
6-9 Jason Lewis
9-12A  Mark Levin
12A-6A Coast to Coast

Didn't see anything about mornings (but it won't be Charley Manning who's replacing Rush time slot on RKO).

http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2010/03/03/as_limbaugh_leaves_rko_adds_local_gop_voice/

My bet is 1200 doesn't do anything in ratings. It has a non-existent signal during non-daytime hours where I live (about 10 miles south of Natick). How many people in Boston/Cambridge/inside 128 area (where the signal is decent) are the conservative faithful that would seemingly be the primary target audience for this format?

-Ari




----- Original Message ----
From: Bob DeMattia <bob.bosra@demattia.net>
To: Boston Radio Mailing List <boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 6:52:24 AM
Subject: Re: RushRadio1200.com

I was checking it out yesterday after receiving the email telling us about
it.
I saw the home page and was able to click into several of  the other pages.
I clicked on "HOME" to go back to the top and got directed to yahoo.

Someone must have noticed us poking around the site and decided to hide it.

Very strange that a pre-production site would be available to the public
anyways.

-Bob


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> wrote:

> I decided to check it out this morning and unless Im doing something wrong,
> it re-directs to ...get this.. ...www.yahoo.com as of 5:05am central.
>
> Paul Walker
> Marion, IL
> www.onairdj.com
> www.facebook.com/onairdj
>



      

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Wed Mar  3 11:31:36 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:31:36 -0500
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CC890620AC6362-16E4-4EF2@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com>


 

 Adding /main.html gets you to the site. They probably will officially launch it when the format launches--I am hearing that Rumba supposedly breathes its last Fri at 3pm followed by best of
Rush till Mon at noon. For now WXKS will run Rush reruns in morning drive, with local show starting on April 1

Not sure how it will do in ratings but it may do so-so--but  get billing. Advertisers want their spots on in Boston, etc, and the shows will lead listeners there. Rush, Beck and Hannity rank #1 2 and
3 nationwide in listenership.

Wolfe making it sound like Rush had lackluster ratings--well then surprised he wasn't pulled
earlier...go ahead WTKK, take Rush off our hands. See if we care. Supposedly they paid big bucks to Premiere for the show. Manning will cost less to run and he's local, so that's good especially in
an election year but we'll see how Rush does in ratings and billing

Signal fairly good by day OK by night dep. on where you are. Yes both RKO and XKS have 50 kW
but RKO lower on dial, which helps. RKO stick in Burlington, XKS in Newton. This helps XKS within the 128 belt. Not as good for some but these shows have affiliates in Worc, NH, Prov., the Cape, etc  The Boston area proper has many listeners, hence the target


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob DeMattia <bob.bosra@demattia.net>
To: Boston Radio Mailing List <boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Wed, Mar 3, 2010 6:52 am
Subject: Re: RushRadio1200.com


I was checking it out yesterday after receiving the email telling us about
it.
I saw the home page and was able to click into several of  the other pages.
I clicked on "HOME" to go back to the top and got directed to yahoo.

Someone must have noticed us poking around the site and decided to hide it.

Very strange that a pre-production site would be available to the public
anyways.

-Bob


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> wrote:

> I decided to check it out this morning and unless Im doing something wrong,
> it re-directs to ...get this.. ...www.yahoo.com as of 5:05am central.
>
> Paul Walker
> Marion, IL
> www.onairdj.com
> www.facebook.com/onairdj
>

 

From mariogonz@aol.com  Wed Mar  3 12:58:00 2010
From: mariogonz@aol.com (Mario Gonzalez Jr.)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:58:00 -0500
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <8CC890620AC6362-16E4-4EF2@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>	<dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CC890620AC6362-16E4-4EF2@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4B8EA328.2020200@aol.com>

What will happen to the Rumba format?  I've been listening to the web 
feed, but they are not saying anything about changing over to 1430.  I 
didn't see anything on their website either.

Mario

On 3/3/2010 11:31 AM, raccoonradio@mail.com wrote:
>
>
>   Adding /main.html gets you to the site. They probably will officially launch it when the format launches--I am hearing that Rumba supposedly breathes its last Fri at 3pm followed by best of
> Rush till Mon at noon. For now WXKS will run Rush reruns in morning drive, with local show starting on April 1
>
> Not sure how it will do in ratings but it may do so-so--but  get billing. Advertisers want their spots on in Boston, etc, and the shows will lead listeners there. Rush, Beck and Hannity rank #1 2 and
> 3 nationwide in listenership.
>
> Wolfe making it sound like Rush had lackluster ratings--well then surprised he wasn't pulled
> earlier...go ahead WTKK, take Rush off our hands. See if we care. Supposedly they paid big bucks to Premiere for the show. Manning will cost less to run and he's local, so that's good especially in
> an election year but we'll see how Rush does in ratings and billing
>
> Signal fairly good by day OK by night dep. on where you are. Yes both RKO and XKS have 50 kW
> but RKO lower on dial, which helps. RKO stick in Burlington, XKS in Newton. This helps XKS within the 128 belt. Not as good for some but these shows have affiliates in Worc, NH, Prov., the Cape, etc  The Boston area proper has many listeners, hence the target
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob DeMattia<bob.bosra@demattia.net>
> To: Boston Radio Mailing List<boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
> Sent: Wed, Mar 3, 2010 6:52 am
> Subject: Re: RushRadio1200.com
>
>
> I was checking it out yesterday after receiving the email telling us about
> it.
> I saw the home page and was able to click into several of  the other pages.
> I clicked on "HOME" to go back to the top and got directed to yahoo.
>
> Someone must have noticed us poking around the site and decided to hide it.
>
> Very strange that a pre-production site would be available to the public
> anyways.
>
> -Bob
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr.<
> walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> I decided to check it out this morning and unless Im doing something wrong,
>> it re-directs to ...get this.. ...www.yahoo.com as of 5:05am central.
>>
>> Paul Walker
>> Marion, IL
>> www.onairdj.com
>> www.facebook.com/onairdj
>>
>>      
>
>    

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Wed Mar  3 14:05:28 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:05:28 -0500
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <4B8EA328.2020200@aol.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>	<dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com><8CC890620AC6362-16E4-4EF2@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com>
	<4B8EA328.2020200@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CC891B9F6F2201-16BC-3ECC@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>



 I put on 1200 this afternoon and there was a group of ads and PSAs, some in English and some in Spanish. One announcement in Spanish seemed to say "Rumba" would be going to "AM 1430"
on "May 8th" or was it May 5th ("mil cuatrocientos treinta" = 1430)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario Gonzalez Jr. <mariogonz@aol.com>
To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
Sent: Wed, Mar 3, 2010 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: RushRadio1200.com


What will happen to the Rumba format?  I've been listening to the web feed, but they are not saying anything about changing over to 1430.  I didn't see anything on their website either. 
 
Mario 
 


 

From mariogonz@aol.com  Wed Mar  3 14:28:20 2010
From: mariogonz@aol.com (Mario Gonzalez Jr.)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:28:20 -0500
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <8CC891B9F6F2201-16BC-3ECC@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>	<dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com><8CC890620AC6362-16E4-4EF2@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com>
	<4B8EA328.2020200@aol.com>
	<8CC891B9F6F2201-16BC-3ECC@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4B8EB854.4000206@aol.com>

I'll have to listen to the station on a real radio, since they don't 
play the same commercials on the web feed.  I thought that their DJ's 
would say something about it before they cut over to their commercials.

Mario

On 3/3/2010 2:05 PM, raccoonradio@mail.com wrote:
> I put on 1200 this afternoon and there was a group of ads and PSAs, 
> some in English and some in Spanish. One announcement in Spanish 
> seemed to say "Rumba" would be going to "AM 1430"
> on "May 8th" or was it May 5th ("mil cuatrocientos treinta" = 1430)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mario Gonzalez Jr. <mariogonz@aol.com>
> To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
> Sent: Wed, Mar 3, 2010 12:58 pm
> Subject: Re: RushRadio1200.com
>
> What will happen to the Rumba format? I've been listening to the web 
> feed, but they are not saying anything about changing over to 1430. I 
> didn't see anything on their website either.
>
> Mario
>
>

From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net  Wed Mar  3 15:48:02 2010
From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (revdoug1@myfairpoint.net)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:48:02 -0500
Subject: What has become of . . .
Message-ID: <20100303154802.bumzn93o4uko8wg4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>

. . . Listo Fisher?   I heard him on a commercial on WBZ this morning.   

For that matter, what has become of the rest of the WCRB air staff that left the station during the recent Great Transfer of Ownership?

-Doug






From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net  Wed Mar  3 15:51:55 2010
From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (revdoug1@myfairpoint.net)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:51:55 -0500
Subject: WBZ is reporting a loss
Message-ID: <20100303155155.7s44sacgri0wscck@webmail.myfairpoint.net>

Don Kent's weathercasts are among the best memories I have of growing 
up in Mass. with Channel 4 --- as you said, the sliding boards, the 
Magic Markers and, before that, the big, thick pieces of chalk.   
Primitive stuff by today's slick standards, and the map was virtually 
covered with words and numbers, but somehow Don made it all work.   He 
was a great air personality, a great forecaster and the quintessential 
Yankee.    -Doug



Quoting Paul Anderson <paulranderson@charter.net>:
> I can't believe it's been over 26 years since he retired from WBZ.  I would
> always record his full weather forecast that was on before the Today Show to
> watch when I got up.  He didn't have computer models or fancy 
> graphics, but I'd
> take his forecasts even today, complete with the sometimes-malfunctioning
> sliding boards and Magic markers.  He knew of which he spoke.  There 
> will never
> be anyone again like Don Kent. 
>
> Paul
>




From hykker@wildblue.net  Wed Mar  3 19:26:35 2010
From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:26:35 -0500
Subject: WBZ is reporting a loss
In-Reply-To: <20100303155155.7s44sacgri0wscck@webmail.myfairpoint.net>
References: <20100303155155.7s44sacgri0wscck@webmail.myfairpoint.net>
Message-ID: <4b8efe5a.8802be0a.406e.0039@mx.google.com>

  Channel 4 was all but unwatchable where I grew up, but I do 
remember his WBZ radio forecasts.  Carl deSuze would always introduce 
him as Don Kent sliding down the arometer head.


From n1qgs@yahoo.com  Wed Mar  3 19:35:33 2010
From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:35:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Outside The WZID bldg cleanup Manchester NH
Message-ID: <534080.28107.qm@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://www.flickr.com/x/t/0098009/photos/40476527@N04/sets/72157623550144892/show/ 

The part of the roof blew off the buiding last Thursday night making a mess of much of the building.

Activity on the outside has died down a bit, but still worth snapping some photos of the building. There were many more industrial dryers and movings vans yesterday, but I didn't have my camera yesterday.

This building is at 500 North Commericial Street, I work a couple blocks away at DEKA R&D at 286 North Commerical Street.


John

From mariogonz@aol.com  Wed Mar  3 21:54:47 2010
From: mariogonz@aol.com (Mario Gonzalez Jr.)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:54:47 -0500
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <8CC891B9F6F2201-16BC-3ECC@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>	<dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com><8CC890620AC6362-16E4-4EF2@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com>
	<4B8EA328.2020200@aol.com>
	<8CC891B9F6F2201-16BC-3ECC@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4B8F20F7.9040304@aol.com>

I just listened to it.  The announcement thanked their listeners for 
tuning in for the past few years.  It said that they were ending the 
Rumba format on Monday March 8th and it urged their listeners to tune in 
to "Mia 1430" where they would play similar music.

Mario

On 3/3/2010 2:05 PM, raccoonradio@mail.com wrote:
> I put on 1200 this afternoon and there was a group of ads and PSAs, 
> some in English and some in Spanish. One announcement in Spanish 
> seemed to say "Rumba" would be going to "AM 1430"
> on "May 8th" or was it May 5th ("mil cuatrocientos treinta" = 1430)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mario Gonzalez Jr. <mariogonz@aol.com>
> To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
> Sent: Wed, Mar 3, 2010 12:58 pm
> Subject: Re: RushRadio1200.com
>
> What will happen to the Rumba format? I've been listening to the web 
> feed, but they are not saying anything about changing over to 1430. I 
> didn't see anything on their website either.
>
> Mario
>
>

From billohno@gmail.com  Thu Mar  4 01:26:53 2010
From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:26:53 -0500
Subject: WBZ is reporting a loss
In-Reply-To: <20100303155155.7s44sacgri0wscck@webmail.myfairpoint.net>
References: <20100303155155.7s44sacgri0wscck@webmail.myfairpoint.net>
Message-ID: <4B8F52AD.7010505@gmail.com>

revdoug1@myfairpoint.net wrote:
> Don Kent's weathercasts are among the best memories I have of growing 
> up in Mass. with Channel 4 --- as you said, the sliding boards, the 
> Magic Markers and, before that, the big, thick pieces of chalk.   
> Primitive stuff by today's slick standards, and the map was virtually 
> covered with words and numbers, but somehow Don made it all work.   He 
> was a great air personality, a great forecaster and the quintessential 
> Yankee.    -Doug 

Not sure if anyone else remembers the Don Kent weather station (or 
something like that) that was in the window of (IIRC) the Central 
Savings Bank in Lowell? It was a (by today's standards) low-tech screen 
with text and a barometer. Likely went away in the late 70s....  
Methinks there were others tucked away around Greater Boston.  I can 
only imagine what technology got the data to the window!

Bill O'Neill

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Thu Mar  4 03:15:32 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:15:32 -0500
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <4B8F20F7.9040304@aol.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>	<dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com><8CC890620AC6362-16E4-4EF2@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com>
	<4B8EA328.2020200@aol.com>
	<8CC891B9F6F2201-16BC-3ECC@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>
	<4B8F20F7.9040304@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CC8989FE73297E-E3C-259C@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>


 Thanks--I have very limited knowledge of Spanish and was just trying to pick out a few words...

 
And as I understand it a website called Mia1430.com just launched recently...but while you say the music will be similar, maybe the only similarity will be the language. Isn't Mia romantic tunes,
kind of a Spanish AC, while Rumba is more Tropical or dance based?





  

  
 

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Thu Mar  4 12:44:05 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:44:05 -0500
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <8CC8989FE73297E-E3C-259C@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>	<dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com><8CC890620AC6362-16E4-4EF2@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com><4B8EA328.2020200@aol.com><8CC891B9F6F2201-16BC-3ECC@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com><4B8F20F7.9040304@aol.com>
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 http://rushradio1200.com/pages/schedule.html?feed=389171&article=6832731

The Rush Radio schedule page is up; indeed Rush "encores" will air 6-9 am weekdays for a few
weeks. On weekends there are some to-be-announced slots, some Rush, Hannity, and Beck
encores plus Sunday nights will have Bill Cunningham (had been on RKO; he inherited the
Matt Drudge slot) and Handel on the Law.

Wonder what other Premiere content could wind up there; they do have Randi Rhodes but she's
not conservative (and I wonder if WWZN is running it overnight or something?) Premiere has
Dr Laura (maybe on one of the Salem Comm. stations now?) and other hosts...including Jesus
Christ. Not making that up; a tape trader in L.A. had sent some of it to me. An advice show hosted by
someone who calls himself Jesus Christ. (from the show's site: "Nationally syndicated, the Jesus Christ show can be heard across the US. The producer of the the Jesus Christ show, Neil Saavedra, likens the show to a history teacher dressing up like Abraham Lincoln or Benjamin Franklin to help people put flesh on the bones of history.") Don't know if that will run..


=

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Thu Mar  4 13:02:03 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (dan.strassberg@att.net)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:02:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <8CC89D96B030145-11AC-52BC@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <401707.42164.qm@web180508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Randi Rhodes is not on WWZN. The hosts who have been on overnight are Mike Malloy 10:00PM to midnight, Norman Goldman midnight to 3:00AM, and Leslie Marshall 3:00AM to 5:00 or 6:00AM. However, Malloy sometimes disappears and may sometimes be moved to a different slot; it's hard to follow. On a recent night I caught Thom Hartmann in the 10:00 to midnight slot. On another recent night I heard Norman Goldman in that slot. I didn't check to see who was filling Goldman's slot that night. I have no idea whether the cause of these schedule changes is technical difficulties or something else. I have never heard an announcement on the air promoting schedule changes, but I have the impression that Jeff Santos doesn't care--except _maybe_ if there are hours of dead air. 

dan.strassberg@att.net

eFax 707-215-6367

--- On Thu, 3/4/10, raccoonradio@mail.com <raccoonradio@mail.com> wrote:
From: raccoonradio@mail.com <raccoonradio@mail.com>
Subject: Re: RushRadio1200.com
To: raccoonradio@mail.com
Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 12:44 PM
 
 Wonder what other Premiere content could wind up there; they do have Randi Rhodes but she's
not conservative (and I wonder if WWZN is running it overnight or something?) 


From kvahey@gmail.com  Thu Mar  4 12:38:58 2010
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:38:58 -0500
Subject: George Carlin at WEZE
Message-ID: <4fc429771003040938r5ede982fh71f789625a6c6328@mail.gmail.com>

Reading Last Words by George Carlin and he tells the story of getting
fired by WEZE for using the news-unit to buy drugs in Harlem.

But what really put him in hot water was a problem with Cardinal Cushing.

Cushing himself would say the rosary live from his home every evening
at 6:45. One night Cushing ran late and Carlin cuts him off to go to
NBC News at 7. Cushing was not amused.

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Thu Mar  4 14:23:59 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:23:59 -0500
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <401707.42164.qm@web180508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CC89E7602D54BC-11AC-5806@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com>


 OK; had thought that it was being talked about at least (the poss. of her being run on WWZN) 
That schedule does seem to be in flux and I don't know if the Revolution Boston site is consistent with
what airs. They aren't the only one; the Complete Schedule page on WRKO's site said that Red Eye
Radio was to be on last night (apparently they weren't going to do Howie reruns when Howie had
fill ins, like was the case with Avi Nelson yesterday) but I have been told they ran Howie-with-Avi-
filling in last night on the overnight, anyway.

Years ago I read a book called Talk Radio and the American Dream by Murray Levin; may read again
either at a library or picking up a used copy. Jerry Williams used to mention it on air...it focused on
him and also Avi Nelson, IIRC.

 







 

From Kaimbridge@gmail.com  Thu Mar  4 14:51:25 2010
From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild)
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:51:25 +0000
Subject: [B-R-I]  Re: RushRadio1200.com
Message-ID: <4B900F3D.6010901@Gmail.com>

Our beloved Radio Raccoon wrote,

 > Wonder what other Premiere content could wind up there;

How 'bout Dr. Dean Edell?

      ~Kaimbridge~

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From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com  Fri Mar  5 01:57:58 2010
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 01:57:58 -0500
Subject: WCCM Is Back on the Air
Message-ID: <DE323CE899D140FC81D89BBE3A619F6D@s20035>

You may have heard the Saga stations in Manchester had their roof blown off 
during last weeks wind/rain storm.

WCCM (The former WCEC and WVNH), were knocked off the air as the storm 
downed power lines.

This link has a couple of pictures.

http://www.rwonline.com/article/95802

"Salem, N.H. talk station WCCM(AM) was knocked off the air Feb. 25 when 
winds up to 90 mph knocked a tree over , taking with it electrical lines and 
a pole leading to WCCM's transmission site. Several other radio and TV 
stations in the region were damaged or went dark during the weather 
onslaught. " 


From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com  Fri Mar  5 01:57:55 2010
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 01:57:55 -0500
Subject: Storm Forces WZID Out Of It's Studio
References: <DAD39F8765994AD6B732D2B1E0233442@Mark>
	<4B894BC4.8060701@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6F447F86D04F4E08A3A735104B6569A1@s20035>

Someone posted a video of the Saga building after the storm on youtube.

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfaklGTmTCY


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill O'Neill" <billohno@gmail.com>
To: "Mark Watson" <markwats@comcast.net>
Cc: "Boston Radio" <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Storm Forces WZID Out Of It's Studio


> Mark Watson wrote:
>>  Confirmed by a friend who e-mailed me, from a friend of his at the 
>> station: Manchester's WZID is operating from a temporary studio in a 
>> conference room at the WMUR studio building in downtown Manchester due 
>> to damage caused to their building (converted mill building) when part 
>> of the roof was blown off by the storm overnight. No word on what 
>> effect the building damage had on their sister stations in the same 
>> building, WFEA & WMLL.
>>
> Our home office at Windham Group is the floor below the station and was 
> devastated by the water damage largely due to the sprinkler system 
> damage by the storm.
> 
> Bill O'Neill
>

From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Fri Mar  5 02:49:58 2010
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 02:49:58 -0500
Subject: [B-R-I] Re: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <4B900F3D.6010901@Gmail.com>
References: <4B900F3D.6010901@Gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1fbbbced1003042349v72ea0d39led569e12ee38c2d9@mail.gmail.com>

That's possible too...

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Kaimbridge M. GoldChild
<Kaimbridge@gmail.com> wrote:
> Our beloved Radio Raccoon wrote,
>
>> Wonder what other Premiere content could wind up there;

From mariogonz@aol.com  Fri Mar  5 09:42:47 2010
From: mariogonz@aol.com (Mario Gonzalez Jr.)
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:42:47 -0500
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <8CC8989FE73297E-E3C-259C@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>	<dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com><8CC890620AC6362-16E4-4EF2@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com>
	<4B8EA328.2020200@aol.com>
	<8CC891B9F6F2201-16BC-3ECC@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>
	<4B8F20F7.9040304@aol.com>
	<8CC8989FE73297E-E3C-259C@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4B911867.2080302@aol.com>

I was listening to Rumba 1200 this morning.  The DJ (John Moussa) said 
that the station was going to stop the Rumba format as of 3pm today.  
This was previously reported.  He then said that listeners could find 
the same kind of music online at rumba100.com.  This is one of their 
other rumba stations.

They are still running the ad where they say that they will convert over 
on Monday and they urge their listeners to go to Mia 1430.  They are 
calling it Latin Pop music.  The music there is more pop than urban from 
what I can tell.  I like the Rumba format better.  Fortunately for me, 
there are plenty of online sources for it.

Mario

On 3/4/2010 3:15 AM, raccoonradio@mail.com wrote:
> Thanks--I have very limited knowledge of Spanish and was just trying 
> to pick out a few words...
>
> And as I understand it a website called Mia1430.com just launched 
> recently...but while you say the music will be similar, maybe the only 
> similarity will be the language. Isn't Mia romantic tunes,
> kind of a Spanish AC, while Rumba is more Tropical or dance based?
>
>

From bob.bosra@demattia.net  Fri Mar  5 15:15:31 2010
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:15:31 -0500
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <4B911867.2080302@aol.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com> 
	<dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com> 
	<8CC890620AC6362-16E4-4EF2@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com>
	<4B8EA328.2020200@aol.com> 
	<8CC891B9F6F2201-16BC-3ECC@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>
	<4B8F20F7.9040304@aol.com> 
	<8CC8989FE73297E-E3C-259C@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>
	<4B911867.2080302@aol.com>
Message-ID: <dccf74f91003051215i35c99226h918ce139781d6947@mail.gmail.com>

The rushradio1200.com website is now titled "mia 1430" and has the "mia"
logo in the upper left corner.
There is an announcement that Rush starts Monday at 12 N, and below that the
current mia "just played".


-Bob


On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Mario Gonzalez Jr. <mariogonz@aol.com>wrote:

> I was listening to Rumba 1200 this morning.  The DJ (John Moussa) said that
> the station was going to stop the Rumba format as of 3pm today.  This was
> previously reported.  He then said that listeners could find the same kind
> of music online at rumba100.com.  This is one of their other rumba
> stations.
>
> They are still running the ad where they say that they will convert over on
> Monday and they urge their listeners to go to Mia 1430.  They are calling it
> Latin Pop music.  The music there is more pop than urban from what I can
> tell.  I like the Rumba format better.  Fortunately for me, there are plenty
> of online sources for it.
>
> Mario
>
> On 3/4/2010 3:15 AM, raccoonradio@mail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks--I have very limited knowledge of Spanish and was just trying to
>> pick out a few words...
>>
>> And as I understand it a website called Mia1430.com just launched
>> recently...but while you say the music will be similar, maybe the only
>> similarity will be the language. Isn't Mia romantic tunes,
>> kind of a Spanish AC, while Rumba is more Tropical or dance based?
>>
>>
>>

From mariogonz@aol.com  Fri Mar  5 15:25:16 2010
From: mariogonz@aol.com (Mario Gonzalez Jr.)
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:25:16 -0500
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <dccf74f91003051215i35c99226h918ce139781d6947@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CC890620AC6362-16E4-4EF2@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com>	<4B8EA328.2020200@aol.com>
	<8CC891B9F6F2201-16BC-3ECC@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>	<4B8F20F7.9040304@aol.com>
	<8CC8989FE73297E-E3C-259C@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>	<4B911867.2080302@aol.com>
	<dccf74f91003051215i35c99226h918ce139781d6947@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B9168AC.50708@aol.com>

This is all so confusing ... www.mia1430.com has the content of 1200 
Rumba, but the feed isn't working.  www.1200rumba.com is pointing to 
their old website, but their feed is playing a loop of what is currently 
airing on 1200.

In any case, Rumba 1200 is now gone from the airwaves.

Mario

On 3/5/2010 3:15 PM, Bob DeMattia wrote:
> The rushradio1200.com website is now titled "mia 1430" and has the "mia"
> logo in the upper left corner.
> There is an announcement that Rush starts Monday at 12 N, and below that the
> current mia "just played".
>
>
> -Bob
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Mario Gonzalez Jr.<mariogonz@aol.com>wrote:
>
>    
>> I was listening to Rumba 1200 this morning.  The DJ (John Moussa) said that
>> the station was going to stop the Rumba format as of 3pm today.  This was
>> previously reported.  He then said that listeners could find the same kind
>> of music online at rumba100.com.  This is one of their other rumba
>> stations.
>>
>> They are still running the ad where they say that they will convert over on
>> Monday and they urge their listeners to go to Mia 1430.  They are calling it
>> Latin Pop music.  The music there is more pop than urban from what I can
>> tell.  I like the Rumba format better.  Fortunately for me, there are plenty
>> of online sources for it.
>>
>> Mario
>>
>> On 3/4/2010 3:15 AM, raccoonradio@mail.com wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> Thanks--I have very limited knowledge of Spanish and was just trying to
>>> pick out a few words...
>>>
>>> And as I understand it a website called Mia1430.com just launched
>>> recently...but while you say the music will be similar, maybe the only
>>> similarity will be the language. Isn't Mia romantic tunes,
>>> kind of a Spanish AC, while Rumba is more Tropical or dance based?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Fri Mar  5 15:32:56 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:32:56 -0500
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <4B9168AC.50708@aol.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com><dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com><8CC890620AC6362-16E4-4EF2@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com>	<4B8EA328.2020200@aol.com><8CC891B9F6F2201-16BC-3ECC@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com>	<4B8F20F7.9040304@aol.com><8CC8989FE73297E-E3C-259C@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>	<4B911867.2080302@aol.com><dccf74f91003051215i35c99226h918ce139781d6947@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B9168AC.50708@aol.com>
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 And for those who want a record of the transition, a sound file of last 7 minutes of Rumba and the start of the promos.

http://raccoonradio.freehostia.com/WXKS/WXKSRumbaEnds.mp3


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario Gonzalez Jr. <mariogonz@aol.com>
To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
Sent: Fri, Mar 5, 2010 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: RushRadio1200.com


This is all so confusing ... www.mia1430.com has the content of 1200 Rumba, but the feed isn't working.  www.1200rumba.com is pointing to their old website, but their feed is playing a loop of what is currently airing on 1200. 
 
In any case, Rumba 1200 is now gone from the airwaves. 
 
Mario 
 
On 3/5/2010 3:15 PM, Bob DeMattia wrote: 
> The rushradio1200.com website is now titled "mia 1430" and has the "mia" 
> logo in the upper left corner. 
> There is an announcement that Rush starts Monday at 12 N, and below that the 
> current mia "just played". 
> 
> 
> -Bob 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Mario Gonzalez Jr.<mariogonz@aol.com>wrote: 
> 
>    >> I was listening to Rumba 1200 this morning.  The DJ (John Moussa) said that 
>> the station was going to stop the Rumba format as of 3pm today.  This was 
>> previously reported.  He then said that listeners could find the same kind 
>> of music online at rumba100.com.  This is one of their other rumba 
>> stations. 
>> 
>> They are still running the ad where they say that they will convert over on 
>> Monday and they urge their listeners to go to Mia 1430.  They are calling it 
>> Latin Pop music.  The music there is more pop than urban from what I can 
>> tell.  I like the Rumba format better.  Fortunately for me, there are plenty 
>> of online sources for it. 
>> 
>> Mario 
>> 
>> On 3/4/2010 3:15 AM, raccoonradio@mail.com wrote: 
>> 
>>      >>> Thanks--I have very limited knowledge of Spanish and was just trying to 
>>> pick out a few words... 
>>> 
>>> And as I understand it a website called Mia1430.com just launched 
>>> recently...but while you say the music will be similar, maybe the only 
>>> similarity will be the language. Isn't Mia romantic tunes, 
>>> kind of a Spanish AC, while Rumba is more Tropical or dance based? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>        
 

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Fri Mar  5 15:35:36 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:35:36 -0500
Subject: RushRadio1200.com
In-Reply-To: <dccf74f91003051215i35c99226h918ce139781d6947@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003030306x621d9ee9k98b8d47bb6fe64a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<dccf74f91003030352g730ec608m435d323ccf867039@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CC890620AC6362-16E4-4EF2@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com><4B8EA328.2020200@aol.com>
	<8CC891B9F6F2201-16BC-3ECC@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com><4B8F20F7.9040304@aol.com>
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Message-ID: <8CC8ABA8B34DD0C-1E20-C366@web-mmc-m01.sysops.aol.com>


 Now the top of the rushradio1200.com page says "Boston's New Home For Rush Limbaugh"

1200rumba.com has the same site as before; you'd think they'd have it re-direct to mia1430.com
and maybe they will, eventually (or to the CC "Rumba" site mentioned before, from elsewhere)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob DeMattia <bob.bosra@demattia.net>
To: Boston Radio Mailing List <boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Fri, Mar 5, 2010 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: RushRadio1200.com


The rushradio1200.com website is now titled "mia 1430" and has the "mia"
logo in the upper left corner.
There is an announcement that Rush starts Monday at 12 N, and below that the
current mia "just played".


-Bob


On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Mario Gonzalez Jr. <mariogonz@aol.com>wrote:

> I was listening to Rumba 1200 this morning.  The DJ (John Moussa) said that
> the station was going to stop the Rumba format as of 3pm today.  This was
> previously reported.  He then said that listeners could find the same kind
> of music online at rumba100.com.  This is one of their other rumba
> stations.
>
> They are still running the ad where they say that they will convert over on
> Monday and they urge their listeners to go to Mia 1430.  They are calling it
> Latin Pop music.  The music there is more pop than urban from what I can
> tell.  I like the Rumba format better.  Fortunately for me, there are plenty
> of online sources for it.
>
> Mario
>
> On 3/4/2010 3:15 AM, raccoonradio@mail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks--I have very limited knowledge of Spanish and was just trying to
>> pick out a few words...
>>
>> And as I understand it a website called Mia1430.com just launched
>> recently...but while you say the music will be similar, maybe the only
>> similarity will be the language. Isn't Mia romantic tunes,
>> kind of a Spanish AC, while Rumba is more Tropical or dance based?
>>
>>
>>

 

From TVNETDUDE@aol.com  Fri Mar  5 16:46:16 2010
From: TVNETDUDE@aol.com (TVNETDUDE@aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:46:16 EST
Subject: George Carlin at WEZE 
Message-ID: <26eb9.74ba29ec.38c2d5a8@aol.com>

I remember listening to that on the radio when I was a kid. My mother used  
to have it on I guess she thought by listening to it, it was like saying  
the rosary yourself . I had no idea what it was about.
 
There was a comedian, I think he worked in Boston for awhile, named Steve  
Sweeney, that brought back that memory in one of his comedy routines on the  
Tonight Show many years ago only he did it as a horse race. When I think 
about  it he did sound like he was calling a race.
 
Mike
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/5/2010 12:01:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
boston-radio-interest-request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org writes:

Cushing  himself would say the rosary live from his home every evening
at 6:45. One  night Cushing ran late and Carlin cuts him off to go to
NBC News at 7.  Cushing was not amused.


From friedbagels@gmail.com  Fri Mar  5 18:05:22 2010
From: friedbagels@gmail.com (Aaron Read)
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:05:22 -0500
Subject: Camden Maine station off the air due to storm damage
Message-ID: <4B918E32.4050005@gmail.com>

This bit about how Idaho's governor is zeroing-out state funding for 
Idaho Public TV, appearing on Current's website on March 4th, I think is 
directly relevant to this discussion:

http://www.current.org/2010/03/state-funding-cuts-pose-greatest.html

The bottom line is that non-comm's are under tremendous fiscal 
restrictions compared to their commercial counterparts.  Personally I 
think this ultimately makes for a far better broadcast product, but it 
also means that without subsidies, public broadcasting cannot afford to 
chase unprofitable regions/audiences.

Check out the laundry list here:
http://idahoptv.org/about/belongstoyou/effects.cfm

Note how they say that they'd have to kill off 39 of their 40 TV 
translators, and that they'd be forced to focus their service to 
southwest Idaho where **82%** of their contributions (individual and 
corporate) come from.  (emphasis mine)

I'm sure there's some grandstanding going on here, but I'll bet that if 
the governor succeeds, IPTV will go ahead with the cuts pretty much as 
they specify on that site.

I'm sure MPBN is little different; why should they chase after audiences 
in regions that are likely to cost more money than they could possibly 
earn from?

If you don't like how statewide public broadcasting networks only serve 
the "rich" areas, you ought to complain to your elected officials who 
have never stopped trying to slash public broadcasting subsidies for the 
last 30 years!

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------
Aaron Read                  |  Finger Lakes Public Radio
friedbagels@gmail.com       |  General Manager (WEOS & WHWS-LP)
Geneva, NY 14456            |  www.weos.org / www.whws.fm


 > Contributions top the need for a statewide network in terms of
 > importance to MPBN.
 >

Well, I did say "as much of the state's residents AS IS FEASIBLE"
(emphasis mine).  If you know you're going to get more money and get it
faster in Camden than in, say Moosehead Lake, then it's smart ROI to
built in Camden first.  I would also opine that you'd have to build
either one huge facility...or more likely, several quite-large
facilities...to adequately cover NW ME thanks to the terrain issues and
extremely low population density.  So maybe it's just not economically
feasible to build out facilities in those regions at all?  Honestly I
don't know; I'm just wildly speculating.

From hykker@wildblue.net  Fri Mar  5 18:40:41 2010
From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz)
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:40:41 -0500
Subject: George Carlin at WEZE
In-Reply-To: <4fc429771003040938r5ede982fh71f789625a6c6328@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <4fc429771003040938r5ede982fh71f789625a6c6328@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4b919694.4801be0a.3cd0.4210@mx.google.com>

At 12:38 PM 3/4/2010, Kevin Vahey wrote:

>But what really put him in hot water was a problem with Cardinal Cushing.
>
>Cushing himself would say the rosary live from his home every evening
>at 6:45. One night Cushing ran late and Carlin cuts him off to go to
>NBC News at 7. Cushing was not amused.


That sounds a little fishy.  Radio in that era was all about exact 
timing, running long or short was not permitted.  If this instance 
happened at all, it sounds like George was just following directions.





From TVNETDUDE@aol.com  Sat Mar  6 18:32:57 2010
From: TVNETDUDE@aol.com (TVNETDUDE@aol.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:32:57 EST
Subject: George Carlin at WEZE 
Message-ID: <60db7.4c3b0680.38c44029@aol.com>

Sometimes you have to take a little initiative whether you are following  
orders or not. We had a guy at WNBC-TV that was airing the Christmas Eve  
Midnight Mass from the Vatican and it was running late so he switched to  
Midnight at the Apollo. 
 
The pope wasn't too pleased and the MCR guy was reprimanded for not calling 
 someone.
 
Mike
 
 
In a message dated 3/6/2010 12:01:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
boston-radio-interest-request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org writes:

>>>>That sounds a little fishy.  Radio in that era  was all about exact 
timing, running long or short was not permitted.   If this instance 
happened at all, it sounds like George was just following  directions.<<<<

From rac@gabrielmass.com  Sat Mar  6 19:38:14 2010
From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak)
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:38:14 -0500
Subject: George Carlin at WEZE
In-Reply-To: <60db7.4c3b0680.38c44029@aol.com>
References: <60db7.4c3b0680.38c44029@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4B92F576.3010509@server4.gabrielmass.com>

On 03/06/2010 06:32 PM, TVNETDUDE@aol.com wrote:
> Sometimes you have to take a little initiative whether you are following
> orders or not. We had a guy at WNBC-TV that was airing the Christmas Eve
> Midnight Mass from the Vatican and it was running late so he switched to
> Midnight at the Apollo.
>
> The pope wasn't too pleased and the MCR guy was reprimanded for not calling
>   someone.

Somehow I find it hard to believe that the Pope in Rome (who was already 
at home asleep at midnight US time) was told about this on the next 
working day:

"By the way, Holiness, I'm sorry to report that in New York, viewers 
were not able to see the end of the Midnight Mass on television. 
Instead of the last procession, there was a musical performance by, uh, 
Sly and the Family Stone...."

--RC


From TVNETDUDE@aol.com  Sun Mar  7 19:41:35 2010
From: TVNETDUDE@aol.com (TVNETDUDE@aol.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 19:41:35 EST
Subject: George Carlin at WEZE 
Message-ID: <9615a.538811c.38c5a1bf@aol.com>

Never worked in network TV I guess. It ain't radio.
 
 
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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:32:57 EST
From: TVNETDUDE@aol.com
To:  boston-radio-interest@tsornin.bostonradio.org, hykker@wildblue.net
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Sometimes you have to take a little initiative  whether you are following  
orders or not. We had a guy at WNBC-TV  that was airing the Christmas Eve  
Midnight Mass from the Vatican and  it was running late so he switched to  
Midnight at the Apollo.  

The pope wasn't too pleased and the MCR guy was reprimanded for not  
calling 
someone.

Mike


In a message dated 3/6/2010  12:01:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,   
boston-radio-interest-request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org  writes:

>>>>That sounds a little fishy.  Radio in that  era  was all about exact 
timing, running long or short was not  permitted.   If this instance 
happened at all, it sounds like  George was just following   directions.<<<<


------------------------------

Message:  2
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:38:14 -0500
From: Richard Chonak  <rac@gabrielmass.com>
To:  boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
Subject: Re: George Carlin at  WEZE
Message-ID:  <4B92F576.3010509@server4.gabrielmass.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 03/06/2010 06:32 PM,  TVNETDUDE@aol.com wrote:
> Sometimes you have to take a little  initiative whether you are following
> orders or not. We had a guy at  WNBC-TV that was airing the Christmas Eve
> Midnight Mass from the  Vatican and it was running late so he switched to
> Midnight at the  Apollo.
>
> The pope wasn't too pleased and the MCR guy was  reprimanded for not 
calling
>   someone.

Somehow I find  it hard to believe that the Pope in Rome (who was already 
at home asleep  at midnight US time) was told about this on the next 
working  day:

"By the way, Holiness, I'm sorry to report that in New York,  viewers 
were not able to see the end of the Midnight Mass on television.  
Instead of the last procession, there was a musical performance by, uh,  
Sly and the Family  Stone...."

--RC



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From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Sun Mar  7 23:07:03 2010
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:07:03 -0600
Subject: Call Sign Swap
Message-ID: <8bce0fe81003072007p30c0eaa1ic751c09acfc81a02@mail.gmail.com>

I didn't see anyone specifically mention this, but 1200 became WXKS and 1430
became WKOX on March 1st,.

Paul Walker
www.onairdj.com
www.facebook.com/onairdj

From joe@attorneyross.com  Mon Mar  8 00:31:00 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 00:31:00 -0500
Subject: Call Sign Swap
In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe81003072007p30c0eaa1ic751c09acfc81a02@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003072007p30c0eaa1ic751c09acfc81a02@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B948B94.1052.5457BC@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 7 Mar 2010 at 22:07, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote:

> I didn't see anyone specifically mention this, but 1200 became WXKS
> and 1430 became WKOX on March 1st,.

I think the fact that 1200 has become WXKS has been mentioned, but I 
don't think anyone has said until now what the new call sign of 1430 
was.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From scott@fybush.com  Mon Mar  8 00:56:17 2010
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 00:56:17 -0500
Subject: Call Sign Swap
In-Reply-To: <4B948B94.1052.5457BC@joe.attorneyross.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003072007p30c0eaa1ic751c09acfc81a02@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B948B94.1052.5457BC@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <4B949181.7060309@fybush.com>

A. Joseph Ross wrote:
> On 7 Mar 2010 at 22:07, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote:
> 
>> I didn't see anyone specifically mention this, but 1200 became WXKS
>> and 1430 became WKOX on March 1st,.
> 
> I think the fact that 1200 has become WXKS has been mentioned, but I 
> don't think anyone has said until now what the new call sign of 1430 
> was.
> 

I'm pretty sure it was in NERW a couple of weeks back...

From scott@fybush.com  Mon Mar  8 00:59:05 2010
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 00:59:05 -0500
Subject: Call Sign Swap
In-Reply-To: <4B949181.7060309@fybush.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003072007p30c0eaa1ic751c09acfc81a02@mail.gmail.com>	<4B948B94.1052.5457BC@joe.attorneyross.com>
	<4B949181.7060309@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <4B949229.5020901@fybush.com>

Scott Fybush wrote:

> I'm pretty sure it was in NERW a couple of weeks back...
> 

Jan. 18, to be precise:

"And last week, Clear Channel announced that it will soon swap calls 
between WKOX and sister station WXKS (1430 Everett), ditching the 
"Rumba" Spanish tropical format now on 1200 in favor of a talk lineup 
drawn heavily from Clear Channel's Premiere Radio Networks."

s

From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Mon Mar  8 06:10:31 2010
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 05:10:31 -0600
Subject: Call Sign Swap
In-Reply-To: <4B949229.5020901@fybush.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003072007p30c0eaa1ic751c09acfc81a02@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B948B94.1052.5457BC@joe.attorneyross.com>
	<4B949181.7060309@fybush.com> <4B949229.5020901@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <8bce0fe81003080310md579e05re8cdf7a631f5f784@mail.gmail.com>

I didn't catch that, Sorry Scott :) I didn't see it mentioend on this list

Paul

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Scott Fybush <scott@fybush.com> wrote:

> Scott Fybush wrote:
>
>  I'm pretty sure it was in NERW a couple of weeks back...
>>
>>
> Jan. 18, to be precise:
>
> "And last week, Clear Channel announced that it will soon swap calls
> between WKOX and sister station WXKS (1430 Everett), ditching the "Rumba"
> Spanish tropical format now on 1200 in favor of a talk lineup drawn heavily
> from Clear Channel's Premiere Radio Networks."
>
> s
>

From joe@attorneyross.com  Tue Mar  9 00:35:23 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:35:23 -0500
Subject: Call Sign Swap
In-Reply-To: <4B949181.7060309@fybush.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003072007p30c0eaa1ic751c09acfc81a02@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4B948B94.1052.5457BC@joe.attorneyross.com>,
	<4B949181.7060309@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <4B95DE1B.17100.54C03A@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 8 Mar 2010 at 0:56, Scott Fybush wrote:

> I'm pretty sure it was in NERW a couple of weeks back...

I'm afraid I don't see NERW as often since you stopped sending it to 
this list.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From scott@fybush.com  Tue Mar  9 09:18:30 2010
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:18:30 -0500
Subject: Call Sign Swap
In-Reply-To: <4B95DE1B.17100.54C03A@joe.attorneyross.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003072007p30c0eaa1ic751c09acfc81a02@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4B948B94.1052.5457BC@joe.attorneyross.com>,
	<4B949181.7060309@fybush.com>
	<4B95DE1B.17100.54C03A@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <4B9658B6.7030900@fybush.com>

A. Joseph Ross wrote:
> On 8 Mar 2010 at 0:56, Scott Fybush wrote:
> 
>> I'm pretty sure it was in NERW a couple of weeks back...
> 
> I'm afraid I don't see NERW as often since you stopped sending it to 
> this list.

Wow...that must have been at least 8 or 9 years ago that I stopped doing 
that! (The last NERW columns archived at bostonradio.org are from March 
2003.)

It required a lot of reformatting, and I believe the moderator was not 
entirely comfortable with the commercial content attached to the column.

It's still available pretty much every Monday at fybush.com. 
Subscription contributions are appreciated but not at all mandatory. 
There's also a Twitter feed at twitter.com/neradiowatch where I post 
alerts when each column becomes available.

s

From joe@attorneyross.com  Wed Mar 10 01:17:55 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:17:55 -0500
Subject: Call Sign Swap
In-Reply-To: <4B9658B6.7030900@fybush.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003072007p30c0eaa1ic751c09acfc81a02@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4B95DE1B.17100.54C03A@joe.attorneyross.com>,
	<4B9658B6.7030900@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <4B973993.7006.7A4767@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 9 Mar 2010 at 9:18, Scott Fybush wrote:

> It's still available pretty much every Monday at fybush.com. 
> Subscription contributions are appreciated but not at all mandatory.
> There's also a Twitter feed at twitter.com/neradiowatch where I post
> alerts when each column becomes available.
 
Well, yeah, but I don't remember to look at it without at least a 
reminder in this forum.  

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From rac@gabrielmass.com  Wed Mar 10 02:14:03 2010
From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:14:03 -0500
Subject: Call Sign Swap
In-Reply-To: <4B973993.7006.7A4767@joe.attorneyross.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003072007p30c0eaa1ic751c09acfc81a02@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4B95DE1B.17100.54C03A@joe.attorneyross.com>,
	<4B9658B6.7030900@fybush.com>
	<4B973993.7006.7A4767@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <4B9746BB.1090407@server4.gabrielmass.com>

On 03/10/2010 01:17 AM, A. Joseph Ross wrote:
> On 9 Mar 2010 at 9:18, Scott Fybush wrote:
>
>> It's still available pretty much every Monday at fybush.com.
>> Subscription contributions are appreciated but not at all mandatory.
>> There's also a Twitter feed at twitter.com/neradiowatch where I post
>> alerts when each column becomes available.
>
> Well, yeah, but I don't remember to look at it without at least a
> reminder in this forum.
>

Well.  I guess I could put it in my calendar for every week.  :-)

-_RC

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Wed Mar 10 15:25:08 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:25:08 -0500
Subject: WOR drops Reynolds for Coast to Coast
Message-ID: <8CC8EA6E9708DFC-18D8-948D@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com>


 

 WABC dropped Coast to Coast to pick up Doug McIntyre's Red Eye radio; now WOR is picking up
Noory, etc., and dropping longtime host Joey Reynolds (end of his syndie gig too, unless someone else
can pick HIM up?)

http://www.michiguide.com/



From raccoonradio@mail.com  Wed Mar 10 16:11:05 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:11:05 -0500
Subject: 98.5 signs Sarandis
Message-ID: <8CC8EAD54E4011C-18D8-96DE@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com>


 

 http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com says that WBZ-FM 98.5 has signed former WEEI talker Ted
Sarandis to do a Sunday talk show (at night for now but moving to afternoons in April)
It premieres this Sunday from 7 to 10 pm. Wonder if any more ex-EEI-ers will wind up there?
Mr Sheppard?



From dan.strassberg@att.net  Wed Mar 10 16:29:56 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg@att.net)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:29:56 -0500
Subject: 98.5 signs Sarandis
References: <8CC8EAD54E4011C-18D8-96DE@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <D8387D70B38640E1A0F5FB8F41DF2F4B@DansCpq6515b>

Too bad. I thought it was good that his broadcasting career appeared to be
over. I suspect the Sports Hub will realize pretty quickly that hiring him
was a mistake. Always berating the callers. Cranky, cranky, cranky. Never
seemed to be enjoying himself when he was on the air.

-----

Dan Strassberg
eFax 1-707-215-6367
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <raccoonradio@mail.com>
To: <boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:11 PM
Subject: 98.5 signs Sarandis





 http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com says that WBZ-FM 98.5 has signed former
WEEI talker Ted
Sarandis to do a Sunday talk show (at night for now but moving to afternoons
in April)
It premieres this Sunday from 7 to 10 pm. Wonder if any more ex-EEI-ers will
wind up there?
Mr Sheppard?



From markwats@comcast.net  Wed Mar 10 16:34:06 2010
From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:34:06 -0500
Subject: 98.5 signs Sarandis
References: <8CC8EAD54E4011C-18D8-96DE@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4ED29B6D2C3E47849FB9E443F9FA8FB5@Mark>

Bob Nelson wrote:


http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com says that WBZ-FM 98.5 has signed former 
WEEI talker Ted
Sarandis to do a Sunday talk show (at night for now but moving to afternoons 
in April)
It premieres this Sunday from 7 to 10 pm.

  Does Ted still do the play by play for Boston College Men's Basketball 
games on WEEI? IIRC when he left the full time employ of WEEI he was still 
calling the BC games. If he's going to the competition he most likely won't 
be calling any more BC games.

Mark Watson 



From rbello@belloassoc.com  Wed Mar 10 16:36:00 2010
From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:36:00 -0500
Subject: 98.5 signs Sarandis
In-Reply-To: <8CC8EAD54E4011C-18D8-96DE@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CC8EAD54E4011C-18D8-96DE@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <90ec04421003101336v32176ff1yeeeb0cd34b9b2c68@mail.gmail.com>

What happens to him calling BC basketball games on WEEI ?



On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:11 PM, <raccoonradio@mail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>  http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com says that WBZ-FM 98.5 has signed former
> WEEI talker Ted
> Sarandis to do a Sunday talk show (at night for now but moving to
> afternoons in April)
> It premieres this Sunday from 7 to 10 pm. Wonder if any more ex-EEI-ers
> will wind up there?
> Mr Sheppard?
>
>
>

From francini@mac.com  Wed Mar 10 17:56:41 2010
From: francini@mac.com (John Francini)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:56:41 -0500
Subject: 98.5 signs Sarandis
In-Reply-To: <90ec04421003101336v32176ff1yeeeb0cd34b9b2c68@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CC8EAD54E4011C-18D8-96DE@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com>
	<90ec04421003101336v32176ff1yeeeb0cd34b9b2c68@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <403C05F6-C254-49E2-9770-5C3130D85129@mac.com>

The announcers for BC are chosen by ISP Sports, not WEEI; I expect  
that Ted will continue to call the games. He has great enthusiasm for  
the team, and the game of college basketball in general.

Maybe Ted does berate the callers a bit, but it would be far better  
than the current evening fare on WEEI.  Adams is too smarmy.

j

On 10 Mar 2010, at 16:36, Ron Bello wrote:

> What happens to him calling BC basketball games on WEEI ?
>
>
>


From ncn86@hotmail.com  Wed Mar 10 09:56:29 2010
From: ncn86@hotmail.com (Nickolas Noseworthy)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:56:29 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
Message-ID: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>


I was just wondering if Clear Channel was having any thoughts about putting the new Rush Radio 1200 on the HD3 Channel of Kiss 108. WXKS FM HD comes in perfect in Southern NH, but WXKS AM barely reaches at any time of the day. I would become a normal morning listener if I could here them when I wake up. -Nick, Merrimack NH  		 	   		  
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From paul.norton@gmail.com  Thu Mar 11 03:53:37 2010
From: paul.norton@gmail.com (Paul Norton)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:53:37 -0800
Subject: Old Boston Radio QSL Cards And More
Message-ID: <46a2ed391003110053l3cd78468t4769bb7e1d55bd6a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

Hopefully this makes it to the last.  This is my first post (not
reply) to the list.

I found some great old QSL cards here from some old radio listeners -

http://www.nrcdxas.org/ERC_Veries/index.html

Scroll down to Massachusetts for the old locals.  Also more here -
http://www.nrcdxas.org/qsl/index1.html

Enjoy!
- Paul

From ncn86@hotmail.com  Thu Mar 11 08:19:45 2010
From: ncn86@hotmail.com (Nickolas Noseworthy)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:19:45 -0500
Subject: WMKK HD3
Message-ID: <BAY130-W24FCAF87E0B4F696A50011A2320@phx.gbl>


Waking up this morning, I found that WMKK 93.7 had a new HD3 subchannel, and it is in fact broadcasting WEEI. Great news, seeing as the only WEEI affiliate I could listen to is 93.5 out of Swanzey NH, and it wasnt that clear. Another great way to use HD to get an AM station clearly into areas that it could not reach.
-Nick, Merrimack NH
 		 	   		  
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From mariogonz@aol.com  Thu Mar 11 13:43:46 2010
From: mariogonz@aol.com (Mario Gonzalez Jr.)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:43:46 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B9939E2.9040000@aol.com>

Clear channel has placed this station on their iheartradio app for the 
iPhone,  Blackberry and Android.  I find it interesting that they put 
this station on the app right away, but they never put Rumba 1200 in the 
app.  They have some of their other Rumba stations available on the app.

Mario

On 3/10/2010 9:56 AM, Nickolas Noseworthy wrote:
> I was just wondering if Clear Channel was having any thoughts about putting the new Rush Radio 1200 on the HD3 Channel of Kiss 108. WXKS FM HD comes in perfect in Southern NH, but WXKS AM barely reaches at any time of the day. I would become a normal morning listener if I could here them when I wake up. -Nick, Merrimack NH
> _________________________________________________________________
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From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com  Thu Mar 11 13:42:30 2010
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:42:30 -0500
Subject: Ron Chapman...at WHAV?
Message-ID: <0D719B2B4E0741B896FEB8179B8712F2@s20035>


I was glancing through Inside Radio and came across an article about Ron 
Chapman (of KLIF, KVIL fame, and half of "Charlie and Harrigan" for a time).

The article said he "began his radio career after HD graduation at WHAV-AM 
in Haverhill Mass in 1953".

I never heard anyone mention that Chapman was from Massachusetts, and the 
Merimack Valley.

Anyone know of his early years in Haverhill and WHAV?

I thought I would have heard this during their "brief" gig at WRKO as 
"Charlie and Harrigan".

Don




From kc1ih@mac.com  Thu Mar 11 16:39:27 2010
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:39:27 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com>

Why don't you suggest it to them?

Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org 
> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org]
>  On Behalf Of Nickolas Noseworthy
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:56 AM
> To: Boston Radio Mailing List
> Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
> 
> 
> I was just wondering if Clear Channel was having any thoughts 
> about putting the new Rush Radio 1200 on the HD3 Channel of 
> Kiss 108. WXKS FM HD comes in perfect in Southern NH, but 
> WXKS AM barely reaches at any time of the day. I would become 
> a normal morning listener if I could here them when I wake 
> up. -Nick, Merrimack NH  		 	   		  
> _________________________________________________________________
> Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection.
> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/=


From bob.bosra@demattia.net  Thu Mar 11 17:33:17 2010
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:33:17 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>
	<002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com>
Message-ID: <dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com>

I believe CC management has resisted requests to put WTAG on a WSRS
subchannel.
I wonder if they would be more receptive to the WXKS/WXKS FM idea.

-Bob

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Larry Weil <kc1ih@mac.com> wrote:

> Why don't you suggest it to them?
>
> Larry Weil
> Lake Wobegone, NH
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org
> > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org]
> >  On Behalf Of Nickolas Noseworthy
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:56 AM
> > To: Boston Radio Mailing List
> > Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
> >
> >
> > I was just wondering if Clear Channel was having any thoughts
> > about putting the new Rush Radio 1200 on the HD3 Channel of
> > Kiss 108. WXKS FM HD comes in perfect in Southern NH, but
> > WXKS AM barely reaches at any time of the day. I would become
> > a normal morning listener if I could here them when I wake
> > up. -Nick, Merrimack NH
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection.
> > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/=
>
>

From kc1ih@mac.com  Thu Mar 11 17:49:10 2010
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:49:10 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>
	<002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com>
	<dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003101cac16d$13e744c0$c7151bac@whdh.com>

There's only one way to find out!  The worst that can happen is they say no.
 
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH
 


  _____  

From: rjd444@gmail.com [mailto:rjd444@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Bob DeMattia
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:33 PM
To: Larry Weil; Boston Radio Mailing List
Cc: Nickolas Noseworthy
Subject: Re: WXKS HD3? hopefully!


I believe CC management has resisted requests to put WTAG on a WSRS
subchannel. 
I wonder if they would be more receptive to the WXKS/WXKS FM idea.

-Bob

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Larry Weil <kc1ih@mac.com> wrote:


Why don't you suggest it to them?

Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH



> -----Original Message-----
> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org
> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org]
>  On Behalf Of Nickolas Noseworthy
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:56 AM
> To: Boston Radio Mailing List
> Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
>
>
> I was just wondering if Clear Channel was having any thoughts
> about putting the new Rush Radio 1200 on the HD3 Channel of
> Kiss 108. WXKS FM HD comes in perfect in Southern NH, but
> WXKS AM barely reaches at any time of the day. I would become
> a normal morning listener if I could here them when I wake
> up. -Nick, Merrimack NH
> _________________________________________________________________
> Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection.

> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/=





From joe@attorneyross.com  Fri Mar 12 00:35:07 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:35:07 -0500
Subject: Old Boston Radio QSL Cards And More
In-Reply-To: <46a2ed391003110053l3cd78468t4769bb7e1d55bd6a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46a2ed391003110053l3cd78468t4769bb7e1d55bd6a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B99D28B.25814.84BC49@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 11 Mar 2010 at 0:53, Paul Norton wrote:

> Scroll down to Massachusetts for the old locals.  Also more here -
> http://www.nrcdxas.org/qsl/index1.html
 
Wow!  a WWEA QSL!

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From joe@attorneyross.com  Fri Mar 12 00:35:07 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:35:07 -0500
Subject: Old Boston Radio QSL Cards And More
In-Reply-To: <46a2ed391003110053l3cd78468t4769bb7e1d55bd6a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46a2ed391003110053l3cd78468t4769bb7e1d55bd6a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B99D28B.15351.84BD04@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 11 Mar 2010 at 0:53, Paul Norton wrote:

> I found some great old QSL cards here from some old radio listeners -
> 
> http://www.nrcdxas.org/ERC_Veries/index.html
 
And a WTAO QSL for someone who heard the station in Brooklyn! 

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From aerie.ma@comcast.net  Fri Mar 12 08:19:15 2010
From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:19:15 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl><002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com>
	<dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DB2863E96D65477C9D41FB489247E14E@fs.uml.edu>

Is WXKS 1200 in HD?  Ibiquity lists them as being in HD (still as WKOX) but
I don't think they actually are yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
Bob DeMattia
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:33 PM
To: Larry Weil; Boston Radio Mailing List
Subject: Re: WXKS HD3? hopefully!

I believe CC management has resisted requests to put WTAG on a WSRS
subchannel.
I wonder if they would be more receptive to the WXKS/WXKS FM idea.

-Bob

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Larry Weil <kc1ih@mac.com> wrote:

> Why don't you suggest it to them?
>
> Larry Weil
> Lake Wobegone, NH
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org
> > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org]
> >  On Behalf Of Nickolas Noseworthy
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:56 AM
> > To: Boston Radio Mailing List
> > Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
> >
> >
> > I was just wondering if Clear Channel was having any thoughts
> > about putting the new Rush Radio 1200 on the HD3 Channel of
> > Kiss 108. WXKS FM HD comes in perfect in Southern NH, but
> > WXKS AM barely reaches at any time of the day. I would become
> > a normal morning listener if I could here them when I wake
> > up. -Nick, Merrimack NH
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection.
> > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/=
>
>


From bob.bosra@demattia.net  Fri Mar 12 09:19:40 2010
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:19:40 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <DB2863E96D65477C9D41FB489247E14E@fs.uml.edu>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>
	<002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com> 
	<dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com> 
	<DB2863E96D65477C9D41FB489247E14E@fs.uml.edu>
Message-ID: <dccf74f91003120619j6a061084h5d99b3c518606b6e@mail.gmail.com>

The HD tuner in my car says no.  Even if they were, the signal probably
wouldn't
be good enough for the reception to be consistent.

Once they go to their ND pattern, I have difficulty receiving them in
Weston.  By the time I get to Wayland,
XKS is all but gone.  Two different radios in two different cars.   Love
those directional patterns.


-Bob


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Jim Hall <aerie.ma@comcast.net> wrote:

> Is WXKS 1200 in HD?  Ibiquity lists them as being in HD (still as WKOX) but
> I don't think they actually are yet.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org
> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Bob DeMattia
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:33 PM
> To: Larry Weil; Boston Radio Mailing List
> Subject: Re: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
>
> I believe CC management has resisted requests to put WTAG on a WSRS
> subchannel.
> I wonder if they would be more receptive to the WXKS/WXKS FM idea.
>
> -Bob
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Larry Weil <kc1ih@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > Why don't you suggest it to them?
> >
> > Larry Weil
> > Lake Wobegone, NH
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org
> > > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org]
> > >  On Behalf Of Nickolas Noseworthy
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:56 AM
> > > To: Boston Radio Mailing List
> > > Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
> > >
> > >
> > > I was just wondering if Clear Channel was having any thoughts
> > > about putting the new Rush Radio 1200 on the HD3 Channel of
> > > Kiss 108. WXKS FM HD comes in perfect in Southern NH, but
> > > WXKS AM barely reaches at any time of the day. I would become
> > > a normal morning listener if I could here them when I wake
> > > up. -Nick, Merrimack NH
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection.
> > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/=
> >
> >
>
>

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Fri Mar 12 10:13:50 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:13:50 -0500
Subject: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?
Message-ID: <8CC900DC1465607-C34-EA14@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com>


 

 It was mentioned that WEEI is now on a HD3 signal of WMKK 93.7. This may finally get me out to buy the Insignia portable at Best Buy because...dare I hope...I might be able to hear Sox games on that signal, while at work.

Or can I? Is there a rule about whether or not an HD sub-carrier (or whatever you call it) can carry MLB
games? If not, I'm out of luck, but as you've heard me say before, where I work (and I work nights)
getting WEEI is a challenge on the workroom floor. I need to use a mini-FM transmitter. The games are also on WBOQ out of Gloucester but the signal isn't strong on the workroom floor (maybe if I stand in one spot and try to get it, great, but the bosses would not be too happy). And boomboxes, etc., can't really get it either (WBOQ) 

But HD, hmm. IF they allow it. Anyone know? WMKK comes in just fine where I work. In fact I would hope that even if Entercom wanted to keep "Mike" on they might take a break from "Everything" to
carry Red Sox games so people with signal problems can hear them. Too much to ask?



From dan.strassberg@att.net  Fri Mar 12 10:33:43 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:33:43 -0500
Subject: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?
References: <8CC900DC1465607-C34-EA14@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <97593EDE314E4EEAA2F9DB8B7EAAA68D@SatU205S5044>

Isn't the Insignia radio you mention a Walkman-size device? And
doesn't it receive analog FM as well as HD channels? If the answer to
both questions is yes (and I'm almost positive that it is), then
wouldn't the Insignia unit be your answer regardless of whether the
PBP was on 93.7 HD3 or not? Though the Insignia receiver is small, if
it can tune in HD3 channels, which operate at no more than 10% of the
station's full power, it must also be quite sensitive as an analog
receiver. Buy it someplace where they will let you play around with
receiving weak signals. Or buy it where they will take it back if it
doesn't perform satisfactorily. Doesn't Best Buy allow returns? Also,
wouldn't your supervisor prefer to have you listen to a small receiver
that fits in your pocket and presumably does not disturb any of your
co-workers as compared with a boom-box, which you presumably have to
play loudly enough that everyone within 15 or 20 feet of you can hear
it whether they want to or not?

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <raccoonradio@mail.com>
To: <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:13 AM
Subject: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?

It was mentioned that WEEI is now on a HD3 signal of WMKK 93.7. This
may finally get me out to buy the Insignia portable at Best Buy
because...dare I hope...I might be able to hear Sox games on that
signal, while at work.

Or can I? Is there a rule about whether or not an HD sub-carrier (or
whatever you call it) can carry MLB
games? If not, I'm out of luck, but as you've heard me say before,
where I work (and I work nights)
getting WEEI is a challenge on the workroom floor. I need to use a
mini-FM transmitter. The games are also on WBOQ out of Gloucester but
the signal isn't strong on the workroom floor (maybe if I stand in one
spot and try to get it, great, but the bosses would not be too happy).
And boomboxes, etc., can't really get it either (WBOQ)

But HD, hmm. IF they allow it. Anyone know? WMKK comes in just fine
where I work. In fact I would hope that even if Entercom wanted to
keep "Mike" on they might take a break from "Everything" to
carry Red Sox games so people with signal problems can hear them. Too
much to ask?



From sid@wrko.com  Fri Mar 12 11:07:39 2010
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:07:39 -0500
Subject: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?
In-Reply-To: <97593EDE314E4EEAA2F9DB8B7EAAA68D@SatU205S5044>
References: <8CC900DC1465607-C34-EA14@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com>
	<97593EDE314E4EEAA2F9DB8B7EAAA68D@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533C7F96E@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>

"if it can tune in HD3 channels, which operate at no more than 10% of the station's full power..."

Not so.  You need to get your head out of analog when talking about HD.

HD carriers are transmitted at a fixed data rate, and on FM-HD that data rate is subdivided among however many audio channels the station wishes to transmit.  For example, in hybrid mode (meaning, transmitting analog along with the digital), the maximum data rate the iBiquity spec calls for is 150kBps.  That data rate can be subdivided into multiple channels but is a single stream of data at a constant power output (for the most part, FM HD carriers are run at 1% of the analog power level, equivalent to 20dB below analog carrier level, although some stations are now able to raise that to 4% [-14dBc] per a recent FCC ruling).  Typically the largest piece of that total data rate is reserved for the HD1, which is a simulcast of the analog audio, but it's really up to the station how they want to subdivide it.  Subject to change, Mike-FM (HD1) is using 48kbps, Funkytown (HD2) is using 48kbps and the WEEI simulcast on HD3 is using 24kbps.

If analog broadcast is ever turned off, sometime in the distant future, the iBiquity spec calls for a maximum data rate of 300kbps, which is enough to support several high-quality channels as well as surround sound.

Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Brighton MA  02135-2040

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Fri Mar 12 11:36:12 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:36:12 -0500
Subject: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?
References: <8CC900DC1465607-C34-EA14@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com><97593EDE314E4EEAA2F9DB8B7EAAA68D@SatU205S5044>
	<0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533C7F96E@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>
Message-ID: <5514F199C20D4F8E8DC5B5AFA2134ADA@SatU205S5044>

I knew nearly all of that--and I do not understand how what I wrote is
in any way contradictory to it. That is, in the iBiquity FM-band
system, since the digital signals share the bandwidth and power
allocated to digital, only a station that has only one digital channel
(the analog-channel simulcast) could devote as much as 10% of the
analog-channel power to a single digital channel. But for the purposes
of my message, so what? The point is that, unless the Insignia
receiver was not meant to demodulate analog (and I believe that it can
demodulate analog), it is BOUND to be more than senstive enough to
pick up WBOQ's analog signal in Nelson's workplace in (I think) N
Reading.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sid Schweiger" <sid@wrko.com>
To: <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?


"if it can tune in HD3 channels, which operate at no more than 10% of
the station's full power..."

Not so.  You need to get your head out of analog when talking about
HD.

HD carriers are transmitted at a fixed data rate, and on FM-HD that
data rate is subdivided among however many audio channels the station
wishes to transmit.  For example, in hybrid mode (meaning,
transmitting analog along with the digital), the maximum data rate the
iBiquity spec calls for is 150kBps.  That data rate can be subdivided
into multiple channels but is a single stream of data at a constant
power output (for the most part, FM HD carriers are run at 1% of the
analog power level, equivalent to 20dB below analog carrier level,
although some stations are now able to raise that to 4% [-14dBc] per a
recent FCC ruling).  Typically the largest piece of that total data
rate is reserved for the HD1, which is a simulcast of the analog
audio, but it's really up to the station how they want to subdivide
it.  Subject to change, Mike-FM (HD1) is using 48kbps, Funkytown (HD2)
is using 48kbps and the WEEI simulcast on HD3 is using 24kbps.

If analog broadcast is ever turned off, sometime in the distant
future, the iBiquity spec calls for a maximum data rate of 300kbps,
which is enough to support several high-quality channels as well as
surround sound.

Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Brighton MA  02135-2040


From rogerkirk@ttlc.net  Fri Mar 12 11:50:20 2010
From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:50:20 -0500
Subject: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?
In-Reply-To: <97593EDE314E4EEAA2F9DB8B7EAAA68D@SatU205S5044>
References: <8CC900DC1465607-C34-EA14@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com>
	<97593EDE314E4EEAA2F9DB8B7EAAA68D@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <4B9A70CC.8010108@ttlc.net>



Dan.Strassberg wrote:
> ... Doesn't Best Buy allow returns?

As stated on their Web Site, Best Buy may apply a "re-stocking" fee to 
returns in some categories.

A friend of mine paid a 15% fee on a piece of consumer electronics that 
he returned.


From raccoonradio@mail.com  Fri Mar 12 12:23:55 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:23:55 -0500
Subject: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?
In-Reply-To: <4B9A70CC.8010108@ttlc.net>
References: <8CC900DC1465607-C34-EA14@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com><97593EDE314E4EEAA2F9DB8B7EAAA68D@SatU205S5044>
	<4B9A70CC.8010108@ttlc.net>
Message-ID: <8CC901FED9FB8B1-C34-F070@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com>


 I just bought one of the Insignia $40 HD portables from Best Buy--they had a whole bunch of them, 
and they were right next to portable AM/FM, portable CD, etc--not like you had to ask for someone to open up a display case. Charging now and tried out; was getting WEEI on the HD 3 of WMKK,
also classic country on WKLB-HD2 and WBZ news/talk on WBZ-FM HD-3. Recep not bad though shaky at times; lost the HD and moved headphone wire around (btw was using my own headphones,
not the pods that came with it)

And...the answer to my question came from the WEEI Sports Radio Network Facebook page which said:

>>We will absolutely carry the Sox and Celtics games on the HD Channel. More info to come.


 


 

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Fri Mar 12 12:34:58 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:34:58 -0500
Subject: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?
In-Reply-To: <5514F199C20D4F8E8DC5B5AFA2134ADA@SatU205S5044>
References: <8CC900DC1465607-C34-EA14@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com><97593EDE314E4EEAA2F9DB8B7EAAA68D@SatU205S5044><0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533C7F96E@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>
	<5514F199C20D4F8E8DC5B5AFA2134ADA@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <8CC9021787002B4-C34-F0F6@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com>

Dan wrote:

>> only a station that has only one digital channel 

(the analog-channel simulcast) could devote as much as 10% of the 
analog-channel power to a single digital channel. But for the purposes 
of my message, so what? The point is that, unless the Insignia 
receiver was not meant to demodulate analog (and I believe that it can 
demodulate analog), it is BOUND to be more than senstive enough to 
pick up WBOQ's analog signal in Nelson's workplace in (I think) N 
Reading. 

It is true that FM analog recep of the FM/HD receiver I just bought seems to be pretty
sensitive and maybe WBOQ would come in well, but if I can pick up the HD-3 signal
of WMKK I should be fine re: Sox. WEEI sports radio network's facebook page confirmed that
Sox games and Celts games would be on, "details to come"

My workplace is off Rt 28 in N. Reading, about a mile or two south of the Andover line and not far from Wilmington. Technically WMKK's stick is one town over (I believe one small part of Peabody
touches N. Reading, or you can go through a sliver of Lynnfield or Middleton to go to N.
Reading from Peabody). That WMKK stick can be seen easily from Routes 1, 128, and I-95.
In our building, the strongest FM signals are from WMKK and also WCRB 99.5. 

AM reception where I work is hampered by machinery. WRKO is easier to pick up than WEEI
but where I am in the building now, I would need a mini-FM transmitter to pick up either station
or WBZ, for that matter. (We'll see if I can pick up the WBZ signal on WBZ-FM HD 3, if I feel
like hearing Rea or Leveille). 98.5 can be picked up in our building but we'll see if the HD
signal attached to it comes in.

As for WBOQ, it comes in near the edges of our building but on the workroom floor one would need to
stand in one place and hold the radio a certain way, and even then it would be shaky. Boomboxes
with antennae have been tried; didn't quite bring it in.

Getting back to the sensitivity issue, one reason I balked at buying this portable was I had bought an AM-FM portable with the Insignia name from Best Buy and recep was horrible. I thought, if that's
any indication of what the HD is like, assuming it's from the same manufacturer (with Best Buy
putting their Insignia name on it), why bother? But I met up with Eli Polonsky at a blues concert in
Arlington and he showed me his HD portable. Hearing that WEEI would be on 93.7's HD 3 signal
made me consider buying the HD portable, and I've done so.

And how many of the "HD radio. It's time to upgrade." ads have we been subjected to so far? :)
Well, if recep is half decent, it'll be worth it. So far, so good here in Beverly.
 


 

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Fri Mar 12 12:45:00 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:45:00 -0500
Subject: WEEI on 93.7 HD signal
Message-ID: <8CC9022DF92DFD4-C34-F178@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com>


 

 
 In some areas of our building, people can use boom boxes provided they're not a nuisance to others. With WMKK coming in well, that is usually the station heard (though a woman sorting "flats" near me a wk or so ago had the Bruins game on WBZ-FM) In the past when the Sox were on WRKO, someone had a boombox in the Express Mail section and got RKO well enough to have the Sox games on.
People didn't mind. Now that just about all games are on WEEI (some are on RKO when there
are Celtics conflicts, like this Sunday afternoon), that doesn't work. But generally people are
advised to use a Walkman.

There is so much noise in  that place--deafening at times--and a Walkman would be preferred but again,
as long as a boombox doesn't disturb others...of course if the boombox has a headphone jack I could
do something like broadcast the signal to my own Walkman via a mini FM transmitter on a freq like 88.5

What I do now is use one Sony Walkman (the AM-FM model you see at stores for about $35) and place it on a narrow ledge near the edge of the building. I plug in a Maxell mini-FM transmitter
(palm sized, round) and re-broadcast the signal to my own Walkman.

The Walkman: http://admintrix.com/items/Big/SON9-SRFM37V.jpg

The FM transmitter: http://www.deals.com/images/deals/66e436d1-6e33-4340-a74f-a4b8c16b2ae9/maxelltransmit1.JPG

(just to give people an idea of how I can hear WRKO or WEEI at work...though the Insignia portable should hopefully pick up the WMKK-HD 3 signal)

 

 

 






From wollman@bimajority.org  Fri Mar 12 16:27:35 2010
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:27:35 -0500
Subject: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?
In-Reply-To: <5514F199C20D4F8E8DC5B5AFA2134ADA@SatU205S5044>
References: <8CC900DC1465607-C34-EA14@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com>
	<97593EDE314E4EEAA2F9DB8B7EAAA68D@SatU205S5044>
	<0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533C7F96E@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>
	<5514F199C20D4F8E8DC5B5AFA2134ADA@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <19354.45511.752003.145710@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:36:12 -0500, "Dan.Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net> said:

> I knew nearly all of that--and I do not understand how what I wrote is
> in any way contradictory to it. That is, in the iBiquity FM-band
> system, since the digital signals share the bandwidth and power
> allocated to digital, only a station that has only one digital channel
> (the analog-channel simulcast) could devote as much as 10% of the
> analog-channel power to a single digital channel.

Power is not allocated the entire digital multiplex, not to individual
subchannels.

> But for the purposes of my message, so what? The point is that,
> unless the Insignia receiver was not meant to demodulate analog (and
> I believe that it can demodulate analog), it is BOUND to be more
> than senstive enough to pick up WBOQ's analog signal in Nelson's
> workplace in (I think) N Reading.

Does not follow.

Nearly all FM tuners in existence today are sensitive enough to
receive any FM signal which can theoretically be received using the
same antenna.  Where they differ is in their susceptibility to
interference and front-end overload.

The iBiquity system uses COFDM, so there is some processing gain in
addition to the analog-domain AGC.

-GAWollman


From wollman@bimajority.org  Fri Mar 12 16:31:38 2010
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:31:38 -0500
Subject: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?
In-Reply-To: <19354.45511.752003.145710@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <8CC900DC1465607-C34-EA14@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com>
	<97593EDE314E4EEAA2F9DB8B7EAAA68D@SatU205S5044>
	<0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533C7F96E@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>
	<5514F199C20D4F8E8DC5B5AFA2134ADA@SatU205S5044>
	<19354.45511.752003.145710@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <19354.45754.366079.737294@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:27:35 -0500, I wrote:

> Power is not allocated the entire digital multiplex, not to individual
> subchannels.

Grrr.  Stupid fingers.  What I meant to say was:

: Power is allocated to the entire digital multiplex, not to
: individual subchannels.  No matter how many subchannels a station
: offers, the digital power is the same; the subchannel allocation
: happens in the digital domain, after demodulation, deinterleaving,
: and error correction.

-GAWollman

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Fri Mar 12 18:00:33 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:00:33 -0500
Subject: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?
References: <8CC900DC1465607-C34-EA14@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com><97593EDE314E4EEAA2F9DB8B7EAAA68D@SatU205S5044><0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533C7F96E@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com><5514F199C20D4F8E8DC5B5AFA2134ADA@SatU205S5044>
	<19354.45511.752003.145710@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <0C000682613242A3A2FB99E0D34D3766@SatU205S5044>

I think you meant "power is allocated to the entire digital multiplex,
not to individual subchannels." Is that what you meant? (In other
words, isn't the word "not" immediately preceding the word "allocated"
an error?) If the corrected version above is what you meant, I fail to
see how what you meant differs in any material way from what I said in
the post with which you took issue. Now, if you meant to say "power is
not allocated to the entire digital multiplex, BUT RATHER to
individual subchannels," we have a disagreement and I don't understand
how what you are saying is--or could be--true. The digital power does
not appear to be a function of how many digital subchannels there are
or how a station allocates the available bit rate among its
subchannels.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org>
To: "Dan.Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net>
Cc: <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?


> <<On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:36:12 -0500, "Dan.Strassberg"
> <dan.strassberg@att.net> said:
>
>> I knew nearly all of that--and I do not understand how what I wrote
>> is
>> in any way contradictory to it. That is, in the iBiquity FM-band
>> system, since the digital signals share the bandwidth and power
>> allocated to digital, only a station that has only one digital
>> channel
>> (the analog-channel simulcast) could devote as much as 10% of the
>> analog-channel power to a single digital channel.
>
> Power is not allocated the entire digital multiplex, not to
> individual
> subchannels.
>
>> But for the purposes of my message, so what? The point is that,
>> unless the Insignia receiver was not meant to demodulate analog
>> (and
>> I believe that it can demodulate analog), it is BOUND to be more
>> than senstive enough to pick up WBOQ's analog signal in Nelson's
>> workplace in (I think) N Reading.
>
> Does not follow.
>
> Nearly all FM tuners in existence today are sensitive enough to
> receive any FM signal which can theoretically be received using the
> same antenna.  Where they differ is in their susceptibility to
> interference and front-end overload.
>
> The iBiquity system uses COFDM, so there is some processing gain in
> addition to the analog-domain AGC.
>
> -GAWollman
>


From nostaticatall@charter.net  Sat Mar 13 09:05:03 2010
From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:05:03 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>
	<002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com>
	<dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DA984476-CF0B-40FB-A462-A388FDC05F46@charter.net>

I'm thinking that the reason they moved the WXKS calls to 1200 is so  
they can put it on 107.9's HD3 channel eventually.  It would be  
similar to WBZ-FM running 1030 on their HD3.

In Worcester, WTAG is simulcasting on the 94.9 translator that  
previously carried WJMN.  I guess they feel there's no reason to put  
WTAG on an HD channel now that it has an FM translator.

-Dave Tomm

On Mar 11, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Bob DeMattia wrote:

> I believe CC management has resisted requests to put WTAG on a WSRS
> sub-channel.
> I wonder if they would be more receptive to the WXKS/WXKS FM idea.
>
> -Bob
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Larry Weil <kc1ih@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> Why don't you suggest it to them?
>>
>> Larry Weil
>> Lake Wobegone, NH
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org
>>> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Nickolas Noseworthy
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:56 AM
>>> To: Boston Radio Mailing List
>>> Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
>>>
>>>
>>> I was just wondering if Clear Channel was having any thoughts
>>> about putting the new Rush Radio 1200 on the HD3 Channel of
>>> Kiss 108. WXKS FM HD comes in perfect in Southern NH, but
>>> WXKS AM barely reaches at any time of the day. I would become
>>> a normal morning listener if I could here them when I wake
>>> up. -Nick, Merrimack NH
>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection.
>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/=
>>
>>


From dan.strassberg@att.net  Sat Mar 13 08:41:29 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:41:29 -0500
Subject: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?
References: <8CC900DC1465607-C34-EA14@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com><97593EDE314E4EEAA2F9DB8B7EAAA68D@SatU205S5044><0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533C7F96E@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com><5514F199C20D4F8E8DC5B5AFA2134ADA@SatU205S5044>
	<19354.45511.752003.145710@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <1EA422465A0A4A87BCAAC5BB348901DB@SatU205S5044>

I think you meant "power is allocated to the entire digital multiplex,
not to individual subchannels." Is that what you meant? (In other
words, isn't the word "not" immediately preceding the word "allocated"
an error?) If the corrected version above is what you meant, I fail to
see how what you meant differs in any material way from what I said in
the post with which you took issue. Now, if you meant to say "power is
NOT allocated to the entire digital multiplex, BUT RATHER to
individual subchannels," we have a disagreement and I don't understand
how what you are saying is--or could be--true. The digital power does
not appear to be a function of how many digital subchannels there are
or how a station allocates the available bit rate among its
subchannels.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org>
To: "Dan.Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net>
Cc: <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?


> <<On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:36:12 -0500, "Dan.Strassberg"
> <dan.strassberg@att.net> said:
>
>> I knew nearly all of that--and I do not understand how what I wrote
>> is
>> in any way contradictory to it. That is, in the iBiquity FM-band
>> system, since the digital signals share the bandwidth and power
>> allocated to digital, only a station that has only one digital
>> channel
>> (the analog-channel simulcast) could devote as much as 10% of the
>> analog-channel power to a single digital channel.
>
> Power is not allocated the entire digital multiplex, not to
> individual
> subchannels.
>
>> But for the purposes of my message, so what? The point is that,
>> unless the Insignia receiver was not meant to demodulate analog
>> (and
>> I believe that it can demodulate analog), it is BOUND to be more
>> than senstive enough to pick up WBOQ's analog signal in Nelson's
>> workplace in (I think) N Reading.
>
> Does not follow.
>
> Nearly all FM tuners in existence today are sensitive enough to
> receive any FM signal which can theoretically be received using the
> same antenna.  Where they differ is in their susceptibility to
> interference and front-end overload.
>
> The iBiquity system uses COFDM, so there is some processing gain in
> addition to the analog-domain AGC.
>
> -GAWollman
>


From dan.strassberg@att.net  Sat Mar 13 09:07:17 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:07:17 -0500
Subject: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?
References: <8CC900DC1465607-C34-EA14@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com><97593EDE314E4EEAA2F9DB8B7EAAA68D@SatU205S5044><0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533C7F96E@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com><5514F199C20D4F8E8DC5B5AFA2134ADA@SatU205S5044>
	<19354.45511.752003.145710@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <1550708A5E904940906BEFA303243ADC@SatU205S5044>

Sorry if this is a repeat transmission, but I am not able to establish
that this message has been sent to the list. I should have received a
copy from the list and I have not.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

I think you meant "power is allocated to the entire digital multiplex,
not to individual subchannels." Is that what you meant? (In other
words, isn't the word "not" immediately preceding the word "allocated"
an error?) If the corrected version above is what you meant, I fail to
see how what you meant differs in any material way from what I said in
the post with which you took issue. Now, if you meant to say "power is
NOT allocated to the entire digital multiplex, BUT RATHER to
individual subchannels," we have a disagreement and I don't understand
how what you are saying is--or could be--true. The digital power does
not appear to be a function of how many digital subchannels there are
or how a station allocates the available bit rate among its
subchannels.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org>
To: "Dan.Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net>
Cc: <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?


> <<On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:36:12 -0500, "Dan.Strassberg"
> <dan.strassberg@att.net> said:
>
>> I knew nearly all of that--and I do not understand how what I wrote
>> is
>> in any way contradictory to it. That is, in the iBiquity FM-band
>> system, since the digital signals share the bandwidth and power
>> allocated to digital, only a station that has only one digital
>> channel
>> (the analog-channel simulcast) could devote as much as 10% of the
>> analog-channel power to a single digital channel.
>
> Power is not allocated the entire digital multiplex, not to
> individual
> subchannels.
>
>> But for the purposes of my message, so what? The point is that,
>> unless the Insignia receiver was not meant to demodulate analog
>> (and
>> I believe that it can demodulate analog), it is BOUND to be more
>> than senstive enough to pick up WBOQ's analog signal in Nelson's
>> workplace in (I think) N Reading.
>
> Does not follow.
>
> Nearly all FM tuners in existence today are sensitive enough to
> receive any FM signal which can theoretically be received using the
> same antenna.  Where they differ is in their susceptibility to
> interference and front-end overload.
>
> The iBiquity system uses COFDM, so there is some processing gain in
> addition to the analog-domain AGC.
>
> -GAWollman
>


From dan.strassberg@att.net  Sat Mar 13 09:43:15 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:43:15 -0500
Subject: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?
References: <8CC900DC1465607-C34-EA14@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com><97593EDE314E4EEAA2F9DB8B7EAAA68D@SatU205S5044><0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533C7F96E@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com><5514F199C20D4F8E8DC5B5AFA2134ADA@SatU205S5044>
	<19354.45511.752003.145710@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <8B917F979E6F497CA17212EFA918BA4E@SatU205S5044>

Sorry if this is a repeat transmission, but I am STILL not able to
establish that this message has been sent to the list. I should have
received a copy from the list and I have not.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

I think you meant "power is allocated to the entire digital multiplex,
not to individual subchannels." Is that what you meant? (In other
words, isn't the word "not" immediately preceding the word "allocated"
an error?) If the corrected version above is what you meant, I fail to
see how what you meant differs in any material way from what I said in
the post with which you took issue. Now, if you meant to say "power is
NOT allocated to the entire digital multiplex, BUT RATHER to
individual subchannels," we have a disagreement and I don't understand
how what you are saying is--or could be--true. The digital power does
not appear to be a function of how many digital subchannels there are
or how a station allocates the available bit rate among its
subchannels.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org>
To: "Dan.Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net>
Cc: <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: Would Sox games be on 93.7 HD signal?


> <<On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:36:12 -0500, "Dan.Strassberg"
> <dan.strassberg@att.net> said:
>
>> I knew nearly all of that--and I do not understand how what I wrote
>> is
>> in any way contradictory to it. That is, in the iBiquity FM-band
>> system, since the digital signals share the bandwidth and power
>> allocated to digital, only a station that has only one digital
>> channel
>> (the analog-channel simulcast) could devote as much as 10% of the
>> analog-channel power to a single digital channel.
>
> Power is not allocated the entire digital multiplex, not to
> individual
> subchannels.
>
>> But for the purposes of my message, so what? The point is that,
>> unless the Insignia receiver was not meant to demodulate analog
>> (and
>> I believe that it can demodulate analog), it is BOUND to be more
>> than senstive enough to pick up WBOQ's analog signal in Nelson's
>> workplace in (I think) N Reading.
>
> Does not follow.
>
> Nearly all FM tuners in existence today are sensitive enough to
> receive any FM signal which can theoretically be received using the
> same antenna.  Where they differ is in their susceptibility to
> interference and front-end overload.
>
> The iBiquity system uses COFDM, so there is some processing gain in
> addition to the analog-domain AGC.
>
> -GAWollman
>


From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Sat Mar 13 15:32:39 2010
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:32:39 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <DA984476-CF0B-40FB-A462-A388FDC05F46@charter.net>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>
	<002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com>
	<dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com>
	<DA984476-CF0B-40FB-A462-A388FDC05F46@charter.net>
Message-ID: <1fbbbced1003131232r15516f1aib9e417136f90338a@mail.gmail.com>

I think I tried the HD3 for 107.9 but got nothing. RushRadio1200 may
indeed be heading there.

And in case people are wondering about the recep I got with the HD
unit at work, well,
it's still a huge postal facility and FM recep isn't the best. I found
I could get the regular
signals and maybe some HD2s (like WMKK-HD2, Funkytown) but WMKK-HD 3
barely came in on the workroom floor. It would pop in for a moment in
a certain place, then I'd
lose it and "no longer available" would pop up on the display.

If they put it on HD2 it probably would be fine but HD3 recep not
good...THOUGH all
WMKK signals,including WEEI on WMKK-HD 3 came in fine in our break
room. Some other
HD signals came in there, too, including one for WROR=HD 2.

Sometimes I would get a display of the song but it wasn't strong
enough to pick up
the song itself--for example, an old Tanya Tucker country song would
be on WKLB-HD2's
display but other than picking it up for a few seconds, nothing. I
suppose if I were outside I'd have better luck, and there is limited
recep in the breakroom, but I can't expect
miracles with the HD receiver in a place like mine. However it should
come in fine at my house, or if I'm out for a walk, etc.

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Dave Tomm <nostaticatall@charter.net> wrote:
> I'm thinking that the reason they moved the WXKS calls to 1200 is so they
> can put it on 107.9's HD3 channel eventually. ?It would be similar to WBZ-FM
> running 1030 on their HD3.

From sid@wrko.com  Sat Mar 13 15:49:12 2010
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:49:12 -0700
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <DA984476-CF0B-40FB-A462-A388FDC05F46@charter.net>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>
	<002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com>
	<dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com>,
	<DA984476-CF0B-40FB-A462-A388FDC05F46@charter.net>
Message-ID: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533506204@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>

"I'm thinking that the reason they moved the WXKS calls to 1200 is so
they can put it on 107.9's HD3 channel eventually.  It would be
similar to WBZ-FM running 1030 on their HD3."

It makes no difference whatsoever which FM signal carries the AM simulcast on HD3, as long as it's ID'ed properly.  There's no FCC or other rule stating that the call signs must match.

Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Brighton MA  02135-2040

From jjlehmann@comcast.net  Sat Mar 13 15:58:24 2010
From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:58:24 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533506204@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>	<002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com>	<dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com>,
	<DA984476-CF0B-40FB-A462-A388FDC05F46@charter.net>
	<0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533506204@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>
Message-ID: <005601cac2ef$ec5a65c0$c50f3140$@net>

> It makes no difference whatsoever which FM signal carries the AM
> simulcast on HD3, as long as it's ID'ed properly.  There's no FCC or
> other rule stating that the call signs must match.

Well at least the calls would match (not that it matters at all). Most HD
radios display the stations' call letters, so it might be less confusing for
some people if the display showed "WXKS-FM-3" and they were listening to
WXKS, rather than WKOX.

CBS probably moved the simulcast of WBZ AM from 103.3 to 98.5 for this
reason.

Jeff Lehmann
Hanson, MA


From wollman@bimajority.org  Sat Mar 13 15:59:15 2010
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:59:15 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533506204@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>
	<002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com>
	<dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com>
	<DA984476-CF0B-40FB-A462-A388FDC05F46@charter.net>
	<0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533506204@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>
Message-ID: <19355.64675.588329.437566@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:49:12 -0700, Sid Schweiger <sid@wrko.com> said:

> "I'm thinking that the reason they moved the WXKS calls to 1200 is so
> they can put it on 107.9's HD3 channel eventually.  It would be
> similar to WBZ-FM running 1030 on their HD3."

> It makes no difference whatsoever which FM signal carries the AM
> simulcast on HD3, as long as it's ID'ed properly.  There's no FCC or
> other rule stating that the call signs must match.

It is, however, potentially less confusing to the listening public if
they do.

-GAWollman

From kc1ih@mac.com  Sat Mar 13 16:59:10 2010
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:59:10 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <005601cac2ef$ec5a65c0$c50f3140$@net>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>
	<002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com>
	<dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com>
	<DA984476-CF0B-40FB-A462-A388FDC05F46@charter.net>
	<0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533506204@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>
	<005601cac2ef$ec5a65c0$c50f3140$@net>
Message-ID: <000001cac2f8$701f2e10$505d8a30$@com>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org
> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Lehmann
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 3:58 PM
> To: 'Sid Schweiger'; 'Boston Radio Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
> 
> > It makes no difference whatsoever which FM signal carries the AM
> > simulcast on HD3, as long as it's ID'ed properly.  There's no FCC or
> > other rule stating that the call signs must match.

Most people don't care about call signs, they think of WXKS-FM only as
Kiss-108.  So the whole thing strikes me as irrelevant.

Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH


From bob.bosra@demattia.net  Sat Mar 13 22:05:28 2010
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:05:28 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <000001cac2f8$701f2e10$505d8a30$@com>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>
	<002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com> 
	<dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com> 
	<DA984476-CF0B-40FB-A462-A388FDC05F46@charter.net>
	<0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533506204@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>
	<005601cac2ef$ec5a65c0$c50f3140$@net>
	<000001cac2f8$701f2e10$505d8a30$@com>
Message-ID: <dccf74f91003131905i70667f0h78861ef04aaca54a@mail.gmail.com>

>
> Most people don't care about call signs, they think of WXKS-FM only as
> Kiss-108.  So the whole thing strikes me as irrelevant.
>
>

Somebody must care, or why bother swapping the WKOX / WXKS callsigns?

For me, WKOX always meant the adult standard it was when it was in
Framingham,
and WKXS always brings to mind Kiss-108.  WKOX seems to make more sense for
a talk radio station, but that's just me.

Perhaps Clear Channel felt it could woo listeners of the old WKOX Rumba over
to 1430 if they brought the callsign over.


-Bob

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Sat Mar 13 22:51:37 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:51:37 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl><002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com>
	<dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com>
	<DA984476-CF0B-40FB-A462-A388FDC05F46@charter.net><0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533506204@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com><005601cac2ef$ec5a65c0$c50f3140$@net><000001cac2f8$701f2e10$505d8a30$@com>
	<dccf74f91003131905i70667f0h78861ef04aaca54a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47A3598BCC4C4AD2B873B57234AF001F@SatU205S5044>

My guess is that it was a last-minute decision to kill off the Rumba
name in this market and go with Mia. By the time that decision was
made, the WKOX and WXKS (AM) calls had already been swapped. I think
it would have made more sense to keep the Rumba name and WXKS calls on
1430. The Rumba name already had more than two years of history in the
market and had been associated with 1430 all that time (although it
had been more strongly associated with 1200). Obviously, neither Rumba
nor Mia could be associated with 1200 any longer. But I don't think
any questions would have been raised if the SS music on 1430 had been
branded with the Rumba name. Does anyone know whether CCU has killed
off the Rumba name nationwide? And if the name has been killed off
nationwide, why was it?

And yes, it does make sense to have the Rush Radio HD-3 stream on the
FM whose calls match those of the AM that carries the programming. But
that does bring up the question of when, if ever, AM IBOC will go live
on 1200 (and 1330). I've been told that all three of the stations at
750 SawMill Brook Parkway were built with all of the necessary IBOC
gear installed. If so, the broadbanding alone at all three frequencies
must have cost a substantial sum. Even the face dimension of the
towers might have been affected; those towers are quite fat for their
height. When none of the stations turned on IBOC at the time the
licenses to cover were granted (May 2009, I believe), I said wait for
one year after the licenses were granted. Once the year is up, I
believe there will no longer be any legal requirement to mitigate new
complaints of interference within the 1V/m contours. (I believe both
WRCA's and WUNR's 1V/ms lie entirely within WXKS's 1V/m.) AFAIK, 1430
still runs IBOC. Anybody have any info on other CCU and Beasley AMs?
WOAI and KFI anybody? KDWN anybody? (Just to list a few of the
biggies.) I don't think either company has thrown in the towel on
AM-band IBOC, but maybe they have decided simply to leave it in place
where it is already running and to not get involved with additional
installations.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob DeMattia" <bob.bosra@demattia.net>
To: "Boston Radio Mailing List"
<boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>; "Larry Weil"
<kc1ih@mac.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: WXKS HD3? hopefully!


> >
>> Most people don't care about call signs, they think of WXKS-FM only
>> as
>> Kiss-108.  So the whole thing strikes me as irrelevant.
>>
>>
>
> Somebody must care, or why bother swapping the WKOX / WXKS
> callsigns?
>
> For me, WKOX always meant the adult standard it was when it was in
> Framingham,
> and WKXS always brings to mind Kiss-108.  WKOX seems to make more
> sense for
> a talk radio station, but that's just me.
>
> Perhaps Clear Channel felt it could woo listeners of the old WKOX
> Rumba over
> to 1430 if they brought the callsign over.
>
>
> -Bob


From dan.strassberg@att.net  Sun Mar 14 00:14:59 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:14:59 -0500
Subject: Disappearing messages to the list
Message-ID: <147FCA0D4CA54DDB942E9F32FCBE6775@SatU205S5044>

I am going nuts trying to find out why messages that I send to the
list seem to be disappearing and how I can keep that from happening.
In the past, when I have sent a message to the list, I could count on
a copy coming back to me from the list. So if there was one copy in my
Sent messages folder and another copy in my Inbox, both with the same
timestamp, I could be pretty sure that the message had gone out to the
list.

Now, that no longer seems to happen, which means that I have no way of
knowing that the message has gone out to list members. I have even put
myself on the cc: list of such messages and have also tried Bccing
myself. In such cases, not only have I not received a copy of my
message from the list, I have not received the cc: or Bcc: copies. As
I say, it's driving me nuts!

The only way I have succeeded in getting a copy of my outgoing
messages to the list into my Inbox has been to "print" a copy of the
message to a .mdi (Microsoft Document Imaging) file on the Windows
desktop and then attach the .mdi file to a new message that I send to
myself. This procedure is way too convoluted and time consuming to
perform on a routine basis and it proves nothing about whether the
original message was distributed to the list.

Now, for the record, I am using Windows XP and my e-mail client is
Outlook Express V6. There has been one major change in my setup within
the past two weeks and the mysterious disappearance of messages may
coincide with this change, but I am not sure that it did. My ISP, AT&T
Worldnet, has dumped its DSL customers in this part of the country but
is continuing to provide e-mail service to former Worldnet
subscribers. Our ISP has been migrated to Covad Communications.
Nevertheless, we get and can send Webmail via a Web site named
http://att.my.yahoo.com and we continue to get/send POP3/SMTP mail via
our existing e-mail clients and AT&T's servers,
ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net for POP3 and  imailhost.worldnet.att.net
for SMTP. (I much prefer using Outlook Espress to using the balky,
quirky, att.my.yahoo Web site.)

Also, we can no longer directly receive mail addressed to
<unsername>@worldnet.att.net. When Worldnet started (1997, IIRC),
worldnet.att.net was the ONLY permitted domain name. Shortly, however
(I think after less than a year), AT&T added the more convenient
att.net domain. At that time and until two weeks ago, subscribers and
those who sent mail to them could use either form of the domain name,
that is, either @att.net or @worldnet.att.net. Now we have been told
that ONLY the @att.net domain name will be accepted. It took me at
least four full business days and more than 16 hours on the phone on
hold trying to reach Tech Support to find out that, although
subscribers MUST expunge "worldnet" from their e-mail addresses, we
MUST NOT expunge "worldnet" from the POP3/SMTP server names in our
local e-mail setups. For those who want to ensure continued delivery
of mail addressed to <username>@worldnet.att.net, a Web site named
www.emailchange.com (unaffiliated with either AT&T or Covad) provides
free forwarding. I have already set up that service.

Anyhow, if anyone can explain why I no longer seem able to receive
copies of my own messages from the Boston Radio Interest list and what
I can do to remedy that situation, I'd be much obliged.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367


From tcoco@whav.net  Fri Mar 12 11:35:40 2010
From: tcoco@whav.net (Tim Coco)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:35:40 -0500
Subject: Ron Chapman...at WHAV?
In-Reply-To: <0D719B2B4E0741B896FEB8179B8712F2@s20035>
References: <0D719B2B4E0741B896FEB8179B8712F2@s20035>
Message-ID: <C628168B828D435C863ED38DBC5CDC75@CEO>

 
Chapman remained close to his local roots even after he moved out of the
area. When Edwin V. Johnson, long-time WHAV news director, passed away in
2003, Chapman was one of several people who contributed to a scholarship in
Johnson's honor at Haverhill High School.

There's a bit more here:
http://loudcity.com/stations/the-wave-whav-net/files/show/issue_21.htm

Tim Coco
President & General Manager
WHAV
-----Original Message-----
From: Don [mailto:Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:43 PM
To: B-R-I
Subject: Ron Chapman...at WHAV?


I was glancing through Inside Radio and came across an article about Ron
Chapman (of KLIF, KVIL fame, and half of "Charlie and Harrigan" for a time).

The article said he "began his radio career after HD graduation at WHAV-AM
in Haverhill Mass in 1953".

I never heard anyone mention that Chapman was from Massachusetts, and the
Merimack Valley.

Anyone know of his early years in Haverhill and WHAV?

I thought I would have heard this during their "brief" gig at WRKO as
"Charlie and Harrigan".

Don






From ljs0610@comcast.net  Sat Mar 13 10:38:58 2010
From: ljs0610@comcast.net (ljs0610@comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:38:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: 98.5 signs Sarandis
In-Reply-To: <8CC8EAD54E4011C-18D8-96DE@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1428377902.3512511268494738665.JavaMail.root@sz0146a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Doubt it.  Sarandis is no longer really associated with WEEI Sports Talk and will likely work well in that slot for SportsHub; Sheppard is the poster boy for WEEI's ineptitude, is too closely associated with all that's wrong with that station and was one of the reasons SportsHub is a superior sports experience.  

----- Original Message -----
From: raccoonradio@mail.com
To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
Sent: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:11:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: 98.5 signs Sarandis




http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com says that WBZ-FM 98.5 has signed former WEEI talker Ted
Sarandis to do a Sunday talk show (at night for now but moving to afternoons in April)
It premieres this Sunday from 7 to 10 pm. Wonder if any more ex-EEI-ers will wind up there?
Mr Sheppard?



From wollman@bimajority.org  Sun Mar 14 00:29:26 2010
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:29:26 -0500
Subject: Disappearing messages to the list
In-Reply-To: <147FCA0D4CA54DDB942E9F32FCBE6775@SatU205S5044>
References: <147FCA0D4CA54DDB942E9F32FCBE6775@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <19356.29750.142000.334942@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:14:59 -0500, "Dan.Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net> said:

> Anyhow, if anyone can explain why I no longer seem able to receive
> copies of my own messages from the Boston Radio Interest list and what
> I can do to remedy that situation, I'd be much obliged.

Your problem is that you are subscribed under the address that you say
no longer works.  The remedy is to subscribe under your new address.
Eventually the old address would have dropped off the list
automatically due to bounce messages, but since you say you can't
receive mail at that address any more, I just unsubscribed it.

-GAWollman

From joe@attorneyross.com  Sun Mar 14 01:27:40 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:27:40 -0500
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <dccf74f91003131905i70667f0h78861ef04aaca54a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>,
	<000001cac2f8$701f2e10$505d8a30$@com>,
	<dccf74f91003131905i70667f0h78861ef04aaca54a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B9C81DC.17937.7D127E@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 13 Mar 2010 at 22:05, Bob DeMattia wrote:

> For me, WKOX always meant the adult standard it was when it was in
> Framingham, and WKXS always brings to mind Kiss-108.  WKOX seems to
> make more sense for a talk radio station, but that's just me.
 
I would think a better call for a talk station would be WTOX.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From bob.bosra@demattia.net  Sun Mar 14 09:29:11 2010
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:29:11 -0400
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <4B9C81DC.17937.7D127E@joe.attorneyross.com>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl>
	<000001cac2f8$701f2e10$505d8a30$@com> 
	<dccf74f91003131905i70667f0h78861ef04aaca54a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4B9C81DC.17937.7D127E@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <dccf74f91003140629q7edcc2dek1817cf8a75a0e246@mail.gmail.com>

Those call letters are on a AM station in Richmond, VA, which, oddly enough,
has never had
a talk format (though it has had many others).


-Bob


On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:27 AM, A. Joseph Ross <joe@attorneyross.com>wrote:

> On 13 Mar 2010 at 22:05, Bob DeMattia wrote:
>
> > For me, WKOX always meant the adult standard it was when it was in
> > Framingham, and WKXS always brings to mind Kiss-108.  WKOX seems to
> > make more sense for a talk radio station, but that's just me.
>
> I would think a better call for a talk station would be WTOX.
>
> --
> A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
>  92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
> Boston, MA 02109-2004
> http://www.attorneyross.com
>
>
>

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Sun Mar 14 11:19:30 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:19:30 -0400
Subject: Suspected AM pirate at 720
Message-ID: <B4501ABC74B740FFA2658DE0E8A40A4F@SatU205S5044>

Last night, I picked up a weak but steady signal on AM 720
broadcasting what I believe to be Haitian music and annoucements in
what I believe to be the Hatian Creole language. I am in Arlington
Heights near the Lexington line about 1/2 mile north of Route 2 Exit
57 (the Dow Ave exit--slightly west of the top of Belmont Hill). My
radio is a CC Radio Plus. I do not speak Creole and my high-school
French is from so many decades ago that it is essentially useless.
Also, even if I were fluent in Creole, I doubt whether I could tell
you what was played or said; the reception, though fade-free, was that
bad! Still, the accent sounded French, which suggests Creole. Anyone
have any info on such a pirate?

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367


From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Sun Mar 14 11:26:14 2010
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:26:14 -0400
Subject: Suspected AM pirate at 720
In-Reply-To: <B4501ABC74B740FFA2658DE0E8A40A4F@SatU205S5044>
References: <B4501ABC74B740FFA2658DE0E8A40A4F@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <1fbbbced1003140826m73f18b6dtf752144f9e800698@mail.gmail.com>

There has been a pirate on 720 for awhile --it has even been faintly
picked up in Beverly.
Bruce Conti's page listing unlicensed stations in the area says:

  720       Dorchester - Haitian/Caribbean; religion.

I couldn't find a site for them but they have probably been on for
awhile, same people

http://www.bamlog.com/bostonlp.htm
(last updated Nov of 2008)

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Sun Mar 14 11:28:35 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:28:35 -0400
Subject: Suspected AM pirate at 720
References: <B4501ABC74B740FFA2658DE0E8A40A4F@SatU205S5044>
	<1fbbbced1003140826m73f18b6dtf752144f9e800698@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2E5B07A3366547E4A050CDA4CE70F356@SatU205S5044>

Thanks, Bob.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Nelson" <raccoonradio@gmail.com>
To: "Dan.Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net>
Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" 
<boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Suspected AM pirate at 720


> There has been a pirate on 720 for awhile --it has even been faintly
> picked up in Beverly.
> Bruce Conti's page listing unlicensed stations in the area says:
>
>  720       Dorchester - Haitian/Caribbean; religion.
>
> I couldn't find a site for them but they have probably been on for
> awhile, same people
>
> http://www.bamlog.com/bostonlp.htm
> (last updated Nov of 2008) 


From dan.strassberg@att.net  Sun Mar 14 11:43:35 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:43:35 -0400
Subject: Re(2): Disappearing messages to the list
References: <147FCA0D4CA54DDB942E9F32FCBE6775@SatU205S5044>
	<19356.29750.142000.334942@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <396CE93671B742D3A822CEBDD1E61ADA@SatU205S5044>

Thanks for you efforts, Garrett. However, as of this moment, I am 
unconvinced that you have solved my problem. Firteen minutes ago, I 
CCed the list on my response to a message sent to me by Bob Nelson 
replying to my posting about a suspected Hatian pirate on AM 720. I 
suppose I may yet receive from the list a copy of my response to Bob, 
but as of this moment, 15 minutes have passed and I have not received 
that response. If everything really were working as it supposed to, I 
think the list should have sent me a copy of my response to Bob.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org>
To: "Dan.Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net>
Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 1:29 AM
Subject: Disappearing messages to the list


> <<On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:14:59 -0500, "Dan.Strassberg" 
> <dan.strassberg@att.net> said:
>
>> Anyhow, if anyone can explain why I no longer seem able to receive
>> copies of my own messages from the Boston Radio Interest list and 
>> what
>> I can do to remedy that situation, I'd be much obliged.
>
> Your problem is that you are subscribed under the address that you 
> say
> no longer works.  The remedy is to subscribe under your new address.
> Eventually the old address would have dropped off the list
> automatically due to bounce messages, but since you say you can't
> receive mail at that address any more, I just unsubscribed it.
>
> -GAWollman 


From dan.strassberg@att.net  Sun Mar 14 11:54:07 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:54:07 -0400
Subject: Re(3): Disappearing messages to the list
References: <147FCA0D4CA54DDB942E9F32FCBE6775@SatU205S5044>
	<19356.29750.142000.334942@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <D4A2DE9EA89A42BB9FC4DACB4D22EB4E@SatU205S5044>

Sending this message to see whether, perhaps, the list doesn't
distribute messages unless the list name appears in the To: field. In
the previous version of this message, only Garrett's name appeared on
the To: field; the list's name appeared in the CC: field.

Thanks for you efforts, Garrett. However, as of this moment, I am
unconvinced that you have solved my problem. Fifteen minutes ago, I
CCed the list on my response to a message sent to me by Bob Nelson
replying to my posting about a suspected Hatian pirate on AM 720. I
suppose I may yet receive from the list a copy of my response to Bob,
but as of this moment, 15 minutes have passed and I have not received
that response. If everything really were working as it supposed to, I
think the list should have sent me a copy of my response to Bob.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org>
To: "Dan.Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net>
Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 1:29 AM
Subject: Disappearing messages to the list


> <<On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:14:59 -0500, "Dan.Strassberg"
> <dan.strassberg@att.net> said:
>
>> Anyhow, if anyone can explain why I no longer seem able to receive
>> copies of my own messages from the Boston Radio Interest list and
>> what
>> I can do to remedy that situation, I'd be much obliged.
>
> Your problem is that you are subscribed under the address that you
> say
> no longer works.  The remedy is to subscribe under your new address.
> Eventually the old address would have dropped off the list
> automatically due to bounce messages, but since you say you can't
> receive mail at that address any more, I just unsubscribed it.
>
> -GAWollman


From Kaimbridge@gmail.com  Sun Mar 14 12:19:49 2010
From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:19:49 +0000
Subject: [B-R-I]  Re: Disappearing messages to the list
Message-ID: <4B9D0CA5.1030405@Gmail.com>

Dan Strassberg wrote,

 > So if there was one copy in my Sent messages folder and another
 > copy in my Inbox, both with the same timestamp, I could be
 > pretty sure that the message had gone out to the list.

Well, if you want, you CAN view B-R-I's online archive:

           http://lists.bostonradio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest

You can't see if the CCs got delivered, but at least you know that the 
list, itself, got it.

      ~Kaimbridge~

-----
      Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page:

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge

        *****  Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer.  *****


From scott@fybush.com  Sun Mar 14 13:04:44 2010
From: scott@fybush.com (scott@fybush.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:04:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Disappearing messages to the list
In-Reply-To: <147FCA0D4CA54DDB942E9F32FCBE6775@SatU205S5044>
References: <147FCA0D4CA54DDB942E9F32FCBE6775@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <2999.74.74.168.37.1268586284.squirrel@webmail4.pair.com>


> Anyhow, if anyone can explain why I no longer seem able to receive
> copies of my own messages from the Boston Radio Interest list and what
> I can do to remedy that situation, I'd be much obliged.

I strongly suspect the problem lies somewhere other than Garrett's
servers. I see each of the messages from you that you say aren't reaching
your inbox...so those messages must be reaching the list.

I suspect there's either something in your Outlook settings that's not
showing you your own messages when they come back from a mailing list, or
perhaps something at ATT's end that's catching those messages.

Not being an Outlook or ATT user, I can't be much more specific than that,
alas.

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Sun Mar 14 14:47:23 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:47:23 -0400
Subject: Suspected AM pirate at 720
In-Reply-To: <2E5B07A3366547E4A050CDA4CE70F356@SatU205S5044>
References: <B4501ABC74B740FFA2658DE0E8A40A4F@SatU205S5044><1fbbbced1003140826m73f18b6dtf752144f9e800698@mail.gmail.com>
	<2E5B07A3366547E4A050CDA4CE70F356@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <8CC91BDEB6647AE-260C-12F0D@web-mmc-d09.sysops.aol.com>


 You're welcome and I hope you got the message replies, etc. via your server. I sent you the email
(as well as the list of course) while at WMWM this morning, as I was doing a show--Bob

 



From hykker@wildblue.net  Sun Mar 14 16:55:38 2010
From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:55:38 -0400
Subject: Disappearing messages to the list
In-Reply-To: <2999.74.74.168.37.1268586284.squirrel@webmail4.pair.com>
References: <147FCA0D4CA54DDB942E9F32FCBE6775@SatU205S5044>
	<2999.74.74.168.37.1268586284.squirrel@webmail4.pair.com>
Message-ID: <4b9d4d61.e701be0a.5926.429b@mx.google.com>

At 01:04 PM 3/14/2010, scott@fybush.com wrote:

>I suspect there's either something in your Outlook settings that's not
>showing you your own messages when they come back from a mailing list, or
>perhaps something at ATT's end that's catching those messages.


My ISP uses a modified version of Gmail for their email server, and I 
rarely see anything I post to this or any other list I post to.  I 
wonder if Dan's ISP is doing the same. 


From jjlehmann@comcast.net  Sun Mar 14 17:01:57 2010
From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:01:57 -0400
Subject: Disappearing messages to the list
In-Reply-To: <4b9d4d61.e701be0a.5926.429b@mx.google.com>
References: <147FCA0D4CA54DDB942E9F32FCBE6775@SatU205S5044>	<2999.74.74.168.37.1268586284.squirrel@webmail4.pair.com>
	<4b9d4d61.e701be0a.5926.429b@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <001e01cac3b9$957884b0$c0698e10$@net>

> My ISP uses a modified version of Gmail for their email server, and I
> rarely see anything I post to this or any other list I post to.  I
> wonder if Dan's ISP is doing the same.

I use a gmail address on a couple lists that I subscribe to, and never see
my own replies. I didn't realize that there were other providers doing the
same thing, but since there is, that's definitely a possibility.

Jeff Lehmann
Hanson, MA


From mariogonz@aol.com  Sun Mar 14 22:06:29 2010
From: mariogonz@aol.com (Mario Gonzalez Jr.)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:06:29 -0400
Subject: WXKS HD3? hopefully!
In-Reply-To: <47A3598BCC4C4AD2B873B57234AF001F@SatU205S5044>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl><002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com>	<dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com>	<DA984476-CF0B-40FB-A462-A388FDC05F46@charter.net><0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533506204@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com><005601cac2ef$ec5a65c0$c50f3140$@net><000001cac2f8$701f2e10$505d8a30$@com>	<dccf74f91003131905i70667f0h78861ef04aaca54a@mail.gmail.com>
	<47A3598BCC4C4AD2B873B57234AF001F@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <4B9D9625.1030807@aol.com>

My personal preference is the Rumba format over the Mia format.

I just checked the iheartradio.com webite and there are a bunch of Rumba 
stations that are streaming.  I thought that the "home" Rumba station 
was in Philadelphia.

Mario

On 3/13/2010 10:51 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote:
> My guess is that it was a last-minute decision to kill off the Rumba
> name in this market and go with Mia. By the time that decision was
> made, the WKOX and WXKS (AM) calls had already been swapped. I think
> it would have made more sense to keep the Rumba name and WXKS calls on
> 1430. The Rumba name already had more than two years of history in the
> market and had been associated with 1430 all that time (although it
> had been more strongly associated with 1200). Obviously, neither Rumba
> nor Mia could be associated with 1200 any longer. But I don't think
> any questions would have been raised if the SS music on 1430 had been
> branded with the Rumba name. Does anyone know whether CCU has killed
> off the Rumba name nationwide? And if the name has been killed off
> nationwide, why was it?
>
>

From kc1ih@mac.com  Sun Mar 14 22:21:12 2010
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:21:12 -0400
Subject: NHPR Studio Tours
Message-ID: <p06240800c7c34940a26b@[192.168.0.100]>


New Hampshire Public Radio is having studio tours this Saturday in 
Concord, NH.  You have to sign up in advance, which can be done at 
http://www.nhpr.org/node/31387.

I am signed up for the 1 PM tour, if anyone else here is on the same 
tour please introduce yourself to the bearded guy with glasses.

-- 
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH

From sid@wrko.com  Sun Mar 14 22:34:47 2010
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:34:47 -0400
Subject: NHPR Studio Tours
In-Reply-To: <p06240800c7c34940a26b@[192.168.0.100]>
References: <p06240800c7c34940a26b@[192.168.0.100]>
Message-ID: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533506209@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>

"I am signed up for the 1 PM tour, if anyone else here is on the same
tour please introduce yourself to the bearded guy with glasses."

I never said I was going to be there...

(ducking and covering)

Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Brighton MA  02135-2040

From joe@attorneyross.com  Sun Mar 14 23:17:12 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:17:12 -0400
Subject: Re(3): Disappearing messages to the list
In-Reply-To: <D4A2DE9EA89A42BB9FC4DACB4D22EB4E@SatU205S5044>
References: <147FCA0D4CA54DDB942E9F32FCBE6775@SatU205S5044>,
	<D4A2DE9EA89A42BB9FC4DACB4D22EB4E@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <4B9DA6B8.16693.6BD9DD@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 14 Mar 2010 at 11:54, Dan.Strassberg wrote:

> Sending this message to see whether, perhaps, the list doesn't
> distribute messages unless the list name appears in the To: field. In
> the previous version of this message, only Garrett's name appeared on
> the To: field; the list's name appeared in the CC: field.

I always get posts with the list name in the CC: field.  I've been 
getting all of your posts.  Are you getting other posts that are not 
addressed directly to you?  Have you re-subscribed to the list from 
your correct address after Garrett unsubscribed your non-working 
address?

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From heritageradio@msn.com  Mon Mar 15 00:31:27 2010
From: heritageradio@msn.com (Thomas Heathwood)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:31:27 -0400
Subject: WXKS Coverage
In-Reply-To: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl><002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com><dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com><DA984476-CF0B-40FB-A462-A388FDC05F46@charter.net><0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533506204@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com><005601cac2ef$ec5a65c0$c50f3140$@net><000001cac2f8$701f2e10$505d8a30$@com><dccf74f91003131905i70667f0h78861ef04aaca54a@mail.gmail.com>
	<47A3598BCC4C4AD2B873B57234AF001F@SatU205S5044>
References: <BAY130-W268A0D8F791621306A8CEAA2330@phx.gbl><002101cac163$589b0d40$c7151bac@whdh.com><dccf74f91003111433o7a1a5068wc67eab2213f1675f@mail.gmail.com><DA984476-CF0B-40FB-A462-A388FDC05F46@charter.net><0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5533506204@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com><005601cac2ef$ec5a65c0$c50f3140$@net><000001cac2f8$701f2e10$505d8a30$@com><dccf74f91003131905i70667f0h78861ef04aaca54a@mail.gmail.com>
	<47A3598BCC4C4AD2B873B57234AF001F@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <SNT122-DS103C5DD547F7455BC06C83B52E0@phx.gbl>

I am in Chestnut Hill, Newton and hear 1200-AM all the time on my computer speakers, sometimes on the telephone and in various places on the AM dial aside from 1200.  Nothing in my fillings - my dentist doesn't use silver amalgam anymore.      Tom Heathwood    3/14

From heritageradio@msn.com  Mon Mar 15 00:41:19 2010
From: heritageradio@msn.com (Thomas Heathwood)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:41:19 -0400
Subject: WKOX
Message-ID: <SNT122-DS133BBEA4EDDA3D63F39908B52E0@phx.gbl>

As a small part of the original WKOX in Framingham (1190 - "The Friendly Voice In Framingham")  it
was a disappointment for me to see those calls assigned to  1430 and a secondary broadcast service.
Tom Heathwood. 

From nostaticatall@charter.net  Mon Mar 15 04:55:37 2010
From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:55:37 -0400
Subject: 98.5 signs Sarandis
In-Reply-To: <1428377902.3512511268494738665.JavaMail.root@sz0146a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1428377902.3512511268494738665.JavaMail.root@sz0146a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <101E017E-DC17-4F6B-8AB4-D0F249DDE4F0@charter.net>

Sheppard could be waiting out the end of his contract.  Entercom may  
have cut him loose early so that he couldn't cross the street to 98.5  
right away.  Most likely he's sitting at home getting paid until his  
current deal is up.  I'd suspect he'll pop up at the Sports Hub  
eventually.  He may not be a fulltimer, but he won't just go away.   
Heck, if 98.5 brought Sarandis in to do a show, I'm sure they'll find  
a place for Pete.

-Dave Tomm

On Mar 13, 2010, at 10:38 AM, ljs0610@comcast.net wrote:

> Doubt it.  Sarandis is no longer really associated with WEEI Sports  
> Talk and will likely work well in that slot for SportsHub; Sheppard  
> is the poster boy for WEEI's ineptitude, is too closely associated  
> with all that's wrong with that station and was one of the reasons  
> SportsHub is a superior sports experience.


From dan.strassberg@att.net  Mon Mar 15 10:13:36 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:13:36 -0400
Subject: Re(3): Disappearing messages to the list
References: <147FCA0D4CA54DDB942E9F32FCBE6775@SatU205S5044>,
	<D4A2DE9EA89A42BB9FC4DACB4D22EB4E@SatU205S5044>
	<4B9DA6B8.16693.6BD9DD@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <3F7E5129DAF941F891DED18B5ACE3946@SatU205S5044>

My theory is so complex, nobody will believe it. I think there is a
much better than even chance that my disappearing-message problem is
beyond Garrett's control.

One list member wrote me privately that, while he has no idea of the
cause, he suspects that my problem might lie either in my Outlook
Express settings (could be--but I'm skeptical) OR in the settings at
ATT/Yahoo, which has become my e-mail provider but not my ISP. (My ISP
is now Covad.) Last night, I searched my settings at my Webmail site
http://att.my.yahoo.com looking for filters that Yahoo might have
slipped in. I still suspect a filter (and a damned sophisticated one
at that) but if it exists, it is apparently not one that I can
disable. I believe that this filter blocks my receipt of messages that
I originated and that are being transmitted to me by a list server.
And it's even more sophisitcated than that--when it identifies such a
message this fiendish filter somehow retains enough data about the
message to block subsequent attempts to transmit it to me via ANY
source.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com>
To: "Dan.Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net>
Cc: "boston Radio Interest" <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Re(3): Disappearing messages to the list


> On 14 Mar 2010 at 11:54, Dan.Strassberg wrote:
>
>> Sending this message to see whether, perhaps, the list doesn't
>> distribute messages unless the list name appears in the To: field.
>> In
>> the previous version of this message, only Garrett's name appeared
>> on
>> the To: field; the list's name appeared in the CC: field.
>
> I always get posts with the list name in the CC: field.  I've been
> getting all of your posts.  Are you getting other posts that are not
> addressed directly to you?  Have you re-subscribed to the list from
> your correct address after Garrett unsubscribed your non-working
> address?
>
> -- 
> A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
> 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
> Boston, MA 02109-2004                    http://www.attorneyross.com
>
>


From lglavin@mail.com  Mon Mar 15 15:08:14 2010
From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:08:14 -0400
Subject: WWZN-AM 1510 Off-The Air
Message-ID: <8CC9289FFA25B3B-EB4-1F3C@web-mmc-d08.sysops.aol.com>




As most of you know, the WWZN-AM transmitter and array are located in Waltham, MA, where there has been considerable flooding
this weekend.  I know that WWZN was broadcasting Sunday at noon, because I heard a portion of Brother Stairs's show (just for
laughs) at that time. As of today (Monday, the Ides of March)  WWZN is off-the-air, possibly because Waverly Oaks Road is near a
stream or brook.  The weather may start improving later tonight, but the high water in Waltham could last for a couple of days.


From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 19:29:02 2010
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:29:02 -0500
Subject: WWBW 96.9
Message-ID: <8bce0fe81003151629h8c3f623ge91faab945653081@mail.gmail.com>

How this station got licensed to HIGGANUM, but it's antenna in southern
Norwich is beyond  me. No website exsists and in the several years WWBW has
been licensed, I've heard that the "issue" of COL vs Antenna location would
be correct. I've also seen that this station is off the air alot and really
suffers from interference because of WEHN East Hampton, Long Island. Which
is why WCTD, now WBLQ-LP applied and mvoe to 96.7 in 2 weeks or so. I also
see where the WWBW Licensee has apps on Matha's Vineyard and Natucket.

I wonder what the purpose of WWBW and these propsoed stations are?  Anyone
ever locate the antenna?

Paul Walker

From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 19:56:58 2010
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:56:58 -0500
Subject: WWZN 1510
Message-ID: <8bce0fe81003151656x4b384123m5c39483f151305c@mail.gmail.com>

1510 is off, 6 to 8 inches of water above the slab. An engineer be going in
tomorrow morning after the water retreats to see how fast, and with what
parts, it will take to fix it.

Paul

From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 19:56:58 2010
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:56:58 -0500
Subject: WWZN 1510
Message-ID: <8bce0fe81003151656x4b384123m5c39483f151305c@mail.gmail.com>

1510 is off, 6 to 8 inches of water above the slab. An engineer be going in
tomorrow morning after the water retreats to see how fast, and with what
parts, it will take to fix it.

Paul

From wollman@bimajority.org  Tue Mar 16 01:59:29 2010
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:59:29 -0400
Subject: UNS: WWZN 1510
In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe81003151656x4b384123m5c39483f151305c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8bce0fe81003151656x4b384123m5c39483f151305c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <19359.7745.409262.50035@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:56:58 -0500, "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> said:

> 1510 is off, 6 to 8 inches of water above the slab. An engineer be going in
> tomorrow morning after the water retreats to see how fast, and with what
> parts, it will take to fix it.

Source?

-GAWollman

From necrat.alternate@gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 03:33:07 2010
From: necrat.alternate@gmail.com (Mike Fitzpatrick)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:33:07 -0400
Subject: [B-R-I]  Re: WFXZ-CA Converts Analog To Digital, Ch.24 --> 25
In-Reply-To: <4B7C55DE.9000100@Gmail.com>
References: <4B7C55DE.9000100@Gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601cac4da$ec613a70$c523af50$@alternate@gmail.com>

Here (was) WCEA-LP's setup.
http://www.necrat.us/wcealp_protv.html

WCEA has a digital permit to go to D45 from a location on Melina Cass & Albany Sts.

--Mike

>-----Original Message-----
>From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Kaimbridge M. GoldChild
>Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 15:47
>To: Boston Radio Interest
>Subject: [B-R-I] Re: WFXZ-CA Converts Analog To Digital, Ch.24 --> 25
>
>he FCC still has them (WCEA-LP-58) listed, though both them and WFXZ 
>are listed as 5 kw, with WCEA's xmtr somewheres in the 
>Brookline-Fenway area, and WFXZ's out further, around the Rt.128 
>Needham farm:  Up here on the North Shore, WFXZ-24 had been coming in 
>"snowy strong", and now DT-25 is able to break through digitally with 
>some antenna manipulation.
>On the other hand, I can't find any trace of WCEA-58.
>Anyone on the southwest side get WCEA-58?


From necrat.alternate@gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 03:26:18 2010
From: necrat.alternate@gmail.com (Mike Fitzpatrick)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:26:18 -0400
Subject: Suspected AM pirate at 720
In-Reply-To: <B4501ABC74B740FFA2658DE0E8A40A4F@SatU205S5044>
References: <B4501ABC74B740FFA2658DE0E8A40A4F@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <000501cac4d9$f85640b0$e902c210$@alternate@gmail.com>

There is a Pirate on 720 AM broadcasting from Greenock Street in Dorchester.

--Mike



>-----Original Message-----
>Subject: Suspected AM pirate at 720
>
>Last night, I picked up a weak but steady signal on AM 720
>Broadcasting... Anyone
>have any info on such a pirate?
>
>-----
>Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)


From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 06:20:04 2010
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:20:04 -0500
Subject: UNS: WWZN 1510
In-Reply-To: <19359.7745.409262.50035@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <8bce0fe81003151656x4b384123m5c39483f151305c@mail.gmail.com>
	<19359.7745.409262.50035@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <8bce0fe81003160320i43950b1emaeeca8302a719442@mail.gmail.com>

The engineer, Grady Moates himself... I emailed him after seeing someone
post on here and thought I'd ask him.



On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org>wrote:

> <<On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:56:58 -0500, "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <
> walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> said:
>
> > 1510 is off, 6 to 8 inches of water above the slab. An engineer be going
> in
> > tomorrow morning after the water retreats to see how fast, and with what
> > parts, it will take to fix it.
>
> Source?
>
> -GAWollman
>

From jjlehmann@comcast.net  Tue Mar 16 07:21:13 2010
From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:21:13 -0400
Subject: [B-R-I]  Re: WFXZ-CA Converts Analog To Digital, Ch.24 --> 25
In-Reply-To: <000601cac4da$ec613a70$c523af50$@alternate@gmail.com>
References: <4B7C55DE.9000100@Gmail.com>
	<000601cac4da$ec613a70$c523af50$@alternate@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004601cac4fa$ca0d7c70$5e287550$@net>

> Here (was) WCEA-LP's setup.
> http://www.necrat.us/wcealp_protv.html
> 
> WCEA has a digital permit to go to D45 from a location on Melina Cass &
> Albany Sts.

Last time I drove by there, I noticed what looked like the antenna that was previously mounted on a crane next to the building just mounted on the roof. They're lucky if that covers a couple blocks...

Jeff Lehmann
Hanson, MA


From necrat.alternate@gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 19:51:26 2010
From: necrat.alternate@gmail.com (Mike Fitzpatrick)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:51:26 -0400
Subject: Oldies to go to the PRU
Message-ID: <89672f961003161651h3892c2d0q510a048ee1b59061@mail.gmail.com>

Oldies 103, WODS filed an application to relocate it's transmitter from the
old channel 5 tower (known unofficially as "FM128") to the PRU upper master
antenna. The application was filed middle of last week. WODS plans to run at
21.5kW same as WZLX, and WMJX.

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Tue Mar 16 16:02:10 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:02:10 -0400
Subject: WWZN is back
Message-ID: <8CC935AB2B245AB-237C-1D52@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com>


 

 Checked 1510 just before 4 pm; WWZN is back on (Thom Hartmann, going into his top of hour break)
I think WILD is still off though



From elipolo@earthlink.net  Wed Mar 17 12:51:49 2010
From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:51:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Oldies to go to the PRU
Message-ID: <28760215.1268844709179.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

> From: "Mike Fitzpatrick" <necrat.alternate@gmail.com>
> Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:51 PM
> To: bri@bostonradio.org
>
> Oldies 103, WODS filed an application to relocate 
> it's transmitter from the old channel 5 tower 
> (known unofficially as "FM128") to the PRU upper 
> master antenna. The application was filed middle 
> of last week. WODS plans to run at 21.5kW same as 
> WZLX, and WMJX.

A correction, it's no longer "Oldies" 103.3. WODS 
dropped all on-air and online mention of the word 
"oldies" last fall.

They may lose some outlying suburban/New England 
coverage, but that will put them on a par in the 
city with their main competitors WMJX and WROR, 
where intermodulation from those (and the other) 
stations currently on the Pru has been wreaking 
havoc with their signal from 128 for decades.

EP




From raccoonradio@mail.com  Wed Mar 17 14:22:23 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:22:23 -0400
Subject: WILD dead carrier: satellite problems
Message-ID: <8CC9415ECB33E2A-E14-4FE5@web-mmc-m06.sysops.aol.com>

Around 1 pm today I heard a smooth jazz song on WILD 1090. Then a minute of silence followed by
an announcement saying that WILD was having technical difficulties with their satellite hookup. The
announcement insisted that WILD's programming had not changed. 2:15 pm, checked in again and
heard just the dead carrier (which had been the case yesterday), no music or announcements.

From brian_vita@cssinc.com  Wed Mar 17 14:42:16 2010
From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:42:16 -0400
Subject: WILD dead carrier: satellite problems
In-Reply-To: <8CC9415ECB33E2A-E14-4FE5@web-mmc-m06.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CC9415ECB33E2A-E14-4FE5@web-mmc-m06.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <00b701cac601$94f2d690$bed883b0$@com>

> Subject: WILD dead carrier: satellite problems
> 
> Around 1 pm today I heard a smooth jazz song on WILD 1090. Then a
> minute of silence followed by
> an announcement saying that WILD was having technical difficulties with
> their satellite hookup. The
> announcement insisted that WILD's programming had not changed. 2:15 pm,
> checked in again and
> heard just the dead carrier (which had been the case yesterday), no
> music or announcements.
> 
Drat!  My evil plan to get the format back into Boston has been foiled! 
[Brian Vita] 
Brian


From madprof@ix.netcom.com  Wed Mar 17 22:13:24 2010
From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (madprof)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:13:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: WWBW 96.9
Message-ID: <14796872.1268878404305.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Wooo, yes, really strange, Higganum is on the CT river,  and the 60dBu 
service plot is basically 1/2 of Norwich, which is on the Thames River,
nowhere near in range of Higganum.
Someone at the FCC was, ah, sleeping?  (I'm being kind).

FCC calcs WWBW site as 40.36 km (25.08 miles) distant from 
41? 29' 48" N Lat  72? 33' 27" W Lon, 
[Higganum per FCC Reference Coordinates for Communities]

FCC calcs WWBW's site as 59.79 km (37.15 miles) 
distant from WEHN 96.9 East Hampton, LI. 

www.ontheradio.net lists WCTD as 96.9 The Party - 
RI's ONLY Party Station, Ashaway, RI.
I found no WCTD or WBLQ(-LP) listed in FCC FM query,
then checked Ashaway, RI, 96.7, only WYCM-LP is listed.
Please furthur identify?

FWIW, www.ontheradio.net Norwich does not include WWBW!    

It is beyond me why a Licensee named  "CONNECTICUT RIVER EDUCATIONAL RADIO"
would have apps on Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket,
which certainly aren't in CT.
Please quote the frequencies of those apps so I can view in FM Query, too. 

Bob Sutherland.

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com>
>Sent: Mar 15, 2010 7:29 PM
>To: bri <bri@bostonradio.org>, B-R-I <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
>Subject: WWBW 96.9
>
>How this station got licensed to HIGGANUM, but it's antenna in southern
>Norwich is beyond  me. No website exsists and in the several years WWBW has
>been licensed, I've heard that the "issue" of COL vs Antenna location would
>be correct. I've also seen that this station is off the air alot and really
>suffers from interference because of WEHN East Hampton, Long Island. Which
>is why WCTD, now WBLQ-LP applied and mvoe to 96.7 in 2 weeks or so. I also
>see where the WWBW Licensee has apps on Matha's Vineyard and Natucket.
>
>I wonder what the purpose of WWBW and these propsoed stations are?  Anyone
>ever locate the antenna?
>
>Paul Walker


From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Wed Mar 17 22:19:39 2010
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:19:39 -0500
Subject: WWBW 96.9
In-Reply-To: <14796872.1268878404305.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <14796872.1268878404305.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8bce0fe81003171919v64a63cbcud776e1fd23cc0021@mail.gmail.com>

88.9 Marthas Vineyard and 88.5 Nantucket are their applications.

I forgot, 96.7 in Ashaway changed call letters to WYCM!

WWBW is quite interesting. WHen I contacted them several years ago, I only
got an answer after pestering them a bit...allbeit, politely.. just from the
standpoint of being curious as to what was going on

Paul Walker
www.onairdj.com
www.facebook.com/onairdj



On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:13 PM, madprof <madprof@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Wooo, yes, really strange, Higganum is on the CT river,  and the 60dBu
> service plot is basically 1/2 of Norwich, which is on the Thames River,
> nowhere near in range of Higganum.
> Someone at the FCC was, ah, sleeping?  (I'm being kind).
>
> FCC calcs WWBW site as 40.36 km (25.08 miles) distant from
> 41? 29' 48" N Lat  72? 33' 27" W Lon,
> [Higganum per FCC Reference Coordinates for Communities]
>
> FCC calcs WWBW's site as 59.79 km (37.15 miles)
> distant from WEHN 96.9 East Hampton, LI.
>
> www.ontheradio.net lists WCTD as 96.9 The Party -
> RI's ONLY Party Station, Ashaway, RI.
> I found no WCTD or WBLQ(-LP) listed in FCC FM query,
> then checked Ashaway, RI, 96.7, only WYCM-LP is listed.
> Please furthur identify?
>
> FWIW, www.ontheradio.net Norwich does not include WWBW!
>
> It is beyond me why a Licensee named  "CONNECTICUT RIVER EDUCATIONAL RADIO"
> would have apps on Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket,
> which certainly aren't in CT.
> Please quote the frequencies of those apps so I can view in FM Query, too.
>
> Bob Sutherland.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com>
> >Sent: Mar 15, 2010 7:29 PM
> >To: bri <bri@bostonradio.org>, B-R-I <
> boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
> >Subject: WWBW 96.9
> >
> >How this station got licensed to HIGGANUM, but it's antenna in southern
> >Norwich is beyond  me. No website exsists and in the several years WWBW
> has
> >been licensed, I've heard that the "issue" of COL vs Antenna location
> would
> >be correct. I've also seen that this station is off the air alot and
> really
> >suffers from interference because of WEHN East Hampton, Long Island. Which
> >is why WCTD, now WBLQ-LP applied and mvoe to 96.7 in 2 weeks or so. I also
> >see where the WWBW Licensee has apps on Matha's Vineyard and Natucket.
> >
> >I wonder what the purpose of WWBW and these propsoed stations are?  Anyone
> >ever locate the antenna?
> >
> >Paul Walker
>
>

From dave@skywaves.net  Thu Mar 18 00:44:33 2010
From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:44:33 -0400
Subject: WWBW 96.9
In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe81003171919v64a63cbcud776e1fd23cc0021@mail.gmail.com>
References: <14796872.1268878404305.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<8bce0fe81003171919v64a63cbcud776e1fd23cc0021@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <959B5F9D8EEF4E5DBF83530A277B9795@dave>

WWBW-LP is the actual call sign, indicating that it is an LPFM station.  The 
rules are quite different for LPFMs, which are secondary services and have 
no particular signal requirement for their claimed city of license.

For a prototypical LP-100 station operating over smooth terrain, the 60dbu 
contour falls at less than 6km from the transmitter site, and most LPFMs 
don't serve their 60dbu.  Assuming smooth terrain, WEHN's interfering signal 
at the WWBW-LP transmitter site is on the order of 48dbu. That means that 
the interference-free contour of WWBW-LP is about 68dbu, which is a coverage 
radius of about 3.5km.

So Higganum might be a huge stretch, but not an illegal one. The transmitter 
location is governed by 47 CFR 73.853. Within the top 50 urban markets, the 
applicant - or a local campus, branch, or chapter - must be located within 
10 miles of the transmitter; or 75% of its board members must reside within 
10 miles of the transmitter.  Outside the top 50 urban areas, the 10 mile 
limits increase to 20 miles.

LPFM stations must accept interference from full power stations such as 
WEHN.  The FCC publishes two distance separation limits for LPFM - a minimum 
distance that would protect the conflict from receiving interference with a 
20km buffer, and a greater distance at which the LPFM would expect to 
receive no interference from the conflicts at its 60dbu contour.  This is 
all published  in 47 CFR 73.807.

For easy access to all current US Code of Federal Regulation (CFR) titles, 
access http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov. Most of the FCC rules are in Title 47. 
Broadcast rules are in Volume 4, Part 70-79. Radio rules are in Parts 73 and 
74.

And WYCM is 90.1 in Charlton, MA.  WYCM-LP is in Ashaway, RI.  Different 
owners, so presumably they have an agreement of some kind.

-Dave Doherty
 Skywaves Consulting LLC
 PO Box 4
 Millbury, MA 01527
 401-354-2400
 202-370-6357 (DC)

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:19 PM
To: "madprof" <madprof@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: "B-R-I" <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Subject: Re: WWBW 96.9

>
> 88.9 Marthas Vineyard and 88.5 Nantucket are their applications.
>
> I forgot, 96.7 in Ashaway changed call letters to WYCM!
>
> WWBW is quite interesting. WHen I contacted them several years ago, I only
> got an answer after pestering them a bit...allbeit, politely.. just from 
> the
> standpoint of being curious as to what was going on
>
> Paul Walker
> www.onairdj.com
> www.facebook.com/onairdj
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:13 PM, madprof <madprof@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> Wooo, yes, really strange, Higganum is on the CT river,  and the 60dBu
>> service plot is basically 1/2 of Norwich, which is on the Thames River,
>> nowhere near in range of Higganum.
>> Someone at the FCC was, ah, sleeping?  (I'm being kind).
>>
>> FCC calcs WWBW site as 40.36 km (25.08 miles) distant from
>> 41? 29' 48" N Lat  72? 33' 27" W Lon,
>> [Higganum per FCC Reference Coordinates for Communities]
>>
>> FCC calcs WWBW's site as 59.79 km (37.15 miles)
>> distant from WEHN 96.9 East Hampton, LI.
>>
>> www.ontheradio.net lists WCTD as 96.9 The Party -
>> RI's ONLY Party Station, Ashaway, RI.
>> I found no WCTD or WBLQ(-LP) listed in FCC FM query,
>> then checked Ashaway, RI, 96.7, only WYCM-LP is listed.
>> Please furthur identify?
>>
>> FWIW, www.ontheradio.net Norwich does not include WWBW!
>>
>> It is beyond me why a Licensee named  "CONNECTICUT RIVER EDUCATIONAL 
>> RADIO"
>> would have apps on Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket,
>> which certainly aren't in CT.
>> Please quote the frequencies of those apps so I can view in FM Query, 
>> too.
>>
>> Bob Sutherland.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com>
>> >Sent: Mar 15, 2010 7:29 PM
>> >To: bri <bri@bostonradio.org>, B-R-I <
>> boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
>> >Subject: WWBW 96.9
>> >
>> >How this station got licensed to HIGGANUM, but it's antenna in southern
>> >Norwich is beyond  me. No website exsists and in the several years WWBW
>> has
>> >been licensed, I've heard that the "issue" of COL vs Antenna location
>> would
>> >be correct. I've also seen that this station is off the air alot and
>> really
>> >suffers from interference because of WEHN East Hampton, Long Island. 
>> >Which
>> >is why WCTD, now WBLQ-LP applied and mvoe to 96.7 in 2 weeks or so. I 
>> >also
>> >see where the WWBW Licensee has apps on Matha's Vineyard and Natucket.
>> >
>> >I wonder what the purpose of WWBW and these propsoed stations are? 
>> >Anyone
>> >ever locate the antenna?
>> >
>> >Paul Walker
>>
>>
> 


From madprof@ix.netcom.com  Thu Mar 18 22:49:42 2010
From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (madprof)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:49:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re3.2: WWBW 96.9 reformatted
Message-ID: <19134080.1268966984945.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

wow, neither 88.9 Marthas Vineyard or 88.5 Nantucket apps
are on existing towers!

Bob

From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 22:54:24 2010
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:54:24 -0500
Subject: Re3.2: WWBW 96.9 reformatted
In-Reply-To: <19134080.1268966984945.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <19134080.1268966984945.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8bce0fe81003181954i38421e68p44bcd343e198c6f2@mail.gmail.com>

That can be modified/changed real easy though!

Paul

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:49 PM, madprof <madprof@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> wow, neither 88.9 Marthas Vineyard or 88.5 Nantucket apps
> are on existing towers!
>
> Bob
>

From dave@skywaves.net  Fri Mar 19 00:09:09 2010
From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:09:09 -0400
Subject: Re3.2: WWBW 96.9 reformatted
In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe81003181954i38421e68p44bcd343e198c6f2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <19134080.1268966984945.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<8bce0fe81003181954i38421e68p44bcd343e198c6f2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98338E8FE654462C8601E21CA88EBFC0@dave>

au contraire -

Any change can only diminish the applicant's claims.

Say you propose a theoretical tower that gives you an advantage, and you win 
based on that advantage. If you modify your proposal, you have to show that 
you maintain that advantage. That's unlikely if you are moving to an 
existing tower, since other applicants had either proposed that tower or 
looked at it and found something better.

-d

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:54 PM
To: "madprof" <madprof@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: "B-R-I" <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Subject: Re: Re3.2: WWBW 96.9 reformatted

>
> That can be modified/changed real easy though!
>
> Paul
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:49 PM, madprof <madprof@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> wow, neither 88.9 Marthas Vineyard or 88.5 Nantucket apps
>> are on existing towers!
>>
>> Bob
>>
> 


From raccoonradio@mail.com  Sat Mar 20 13:13:06 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:13:06 -0400
Subject: Revenues down 19 per cent (BRW)
Message-ID: <8CC9667BE24BA8D-2784-11A8@web-mmc-m08.sysops.aol.com>


 

 http://www.bostonradiowatch.com has the revenues local radio made last year

WBZ tops the list followed closely by WEEI--which made 4 times as much as its all talk 
sister station down the hallway. Their no-DJ, we play everything FM outlet made quite a bit
on a low budget.

Greater Media's country outlet made a bit more than their talk station but WMJX did even better.
WROR made slightly less than "Mike". Sports Hub made about half as much as WEEI but
they debuted in August, so mark them with an incomplete.

Wonder how RKO will do, post-Rush, and if WXKS (AM) will make some money...



From dan.strassberg@att.net  Sun Mar 21 13:22:59 2010
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:22:59 -0400
Subject: Someone who signs himself "the Seacoast" sent me a message about an
	89.5FM in Durham NH. The message requested a reply
Message-ID: <723FFCD2CBFE4C869A4C7F351491D95B@SatU205S5044>

I tried to reply--not once but twice. Both attempts yielded bounce 
notifications. Whoever you are, if you want replies to your messages, 
use a reply-to address that works.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367


From necrat.alternate@gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 13:27:33 2010
From: necrat.alternate@gmail.com (Mike Fitzpatrick)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:27:33 -0400
Subject: WWBW 96.9
In-Reply-To: <14796872.1268878404305.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <14796872.1268878404305.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001b01cacaae$1fb5aa40$5f20fec0$@alternate@gmail.com>

I went searching for this bad-boy a year or two ago. It's license puts it in the middle of this abandonded state property south of Norwich, almost due east of Mohegan sun. However after extensive searching for the antenna, there are no signs of it to be seen. Which leads me to believe that, their antenna isn't where it is licensed to. The last two trips to the area, the station was off, so I was unable to direction find the actual antenna. I am hoping one weekend they are on, so I can find the sucker and document it. It's definatley stronger *near* the licensed location but I did not have the right equipment to search the day I did.

--Mike



From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 14:20:26 2010
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:20:26 -0500
Subject: WWBW 96.9
In-Reply-To: <2711779246032979242@unknownmsgid>
References: <14796872.1268878404305.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<2711779246032979242@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <8bce0fe81003231120s772b04f4k6728c81771029b0d@mail.gmail.com>

Mike, if/when you find it, let us all know. Also, if anyone is down that way
and hears of it on, let me know.. I have parents who drive through that area
regularly to and from COlchester and could maybe check it out too.

Paul Walker
www.onairdj.com

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Mike Fitzpatrick <
necrat.alternate@gmail.com> wrote:

> I went searching for this bad-boy a year or two ago. It's license puts it
> in the middle of this abandonded state property south of Norwich, almost due
> east of Mohegan sun. However after extensive searching for the antenna,
> there are no signs of it to be seen. Which leads me to believe that, their
> antenna isn't where it is licensed to. The last two trips to the area, the
> station was off, so I was unable to direction find the actual antenna. I am
> hoping one weekend they are on, so I can find the sucker and document it.
> It's definatley stronger *near* the licensed location but I did not have the
> right equipment to search the day I did.
>
> --Mike
>
>
>

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Wed Mar 24 02:53:59 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:53:59 -0400
Subject: Jeff Katz returns to Boston as WXKS (AM) morning man
Message-ID: <8CC9935EA896377-874-7B6B@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com>


 

 Former WRKO talker Jeff Katz (late night, then mornings co-hosting with Darlene McCarthy and maybe
with Marge Clapprood too, or am I thinking of Tai?) will be the new morning man at WXKS 1200
starting April 5. In recent months he has filled in for Howie at RKO.



From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com  Wed Mar 24 16:21:22 2010
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:21:22 -0400
Subject: Classical Radio on the ropes.....
Message-ID: <BDC1254752DF40AE8C25F038D30E9D7D@s20035>


There is a BRI list member who constantly touts KING in Seattle as an 
example of a well run classical station.

Now it appears that KING is in trouble as well, and has to change their 
business model.

Classical KING FM to become listener supported

http://www.king.org/pages/6544931.php

""This is the next logical step in our evolution as a great classical 
station," said Bayley."   "KING's founder Dorothy Bullitt built a legacy of 
great classical programming and innovation at KING FM.

"That vision worked well for a time, but the handwriting is on the wall," 
Bayley said. "With all the changes in media in the United States, commercial 
advertising is no longer a fit for KING."

I guess we are lucky to have WCRB alive and on the air in any form! 


From nostaticatall@charter.net  Wed Mar 24 19:02:44 2010
From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:02:44 -0400
Subject: Classical Radio on the ropes.....
In-Reply-To: <BDC1254752DF40AE8C25F038D30E9D7D@s20035>
References: <BDC1254752DF40AE8C25F038D30E9D7D@s20035>
Message-ID: <FCFE6372-4B51-4FAC-B176-8EAD76C05099@charter.net>

I don't think they're necessarily in trouble.  It's just that there  
are very few commercial classical stations left.  The classical  
audience, whether they're listening locally or to an internet station,  
has now been conditioned to expect commercial free programming.  KING  
is simply adjusting to this reality, and wants to stay competitive  
with other classical music providers, particularly in regards to the  
internet.  They have enough of a following in their area that they can  
probably bring in as much revenue, if not more, by using the  
underwriting/donation model as opposed to selling commercials at this  
point.  It sounds to me like a good long term decision.

It's slightly different from the WCRB situation, when they were bought  
out by a non-comm broadcast entity.  I suppose WGBH could have run  
that station as a commercial operation if they wished, but I think the  
move to non-comm status was for the same reasons KING is doing it.

-Dave Tomm


On Mar 24, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Don wrote:

>
> There is a BRI list member who constantly touts KING in Seattle as  
> an example of a well run classical station.
>
> Now it appears that KING is in trouble as well, and has to change  
> their business model.
>
> Classical KING FM to become listener supported
>
> http://www.king.org/pages/6544931.php
>
> ""This is the next logical step in our evolution as a great  
> classical station," said Bayley."   "KING's founder Dorothy Bullitt  
> built a legacy of great classical programming and innovation at KING  
> FM.
>
> "That vision worked well for a time, but the handwriting is on the  
> wall," Bayley said. "With all the changes in media in the United  
> States, commercial advertising is no longer a fit for KING."
>
> I guess we are lucky to have WCRB alive and on the air in any form!


From dlh@donnahalper.com  Wed Mar 24 21:58:36 2010
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:58:36 -0400
Subject: copyright question
Message-ID: <20100325015836.507B644C00E@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com>

I know we probably don't have a ton of attorneys on this list, but we 
do have some authors.  I am working on a magazine article and I 
wanted to print a scanned copy of a top-40 survey from, let's say, 
the old WMEX, which is now defunct.  Or perhaps the old WRKO back 
when it was top-40.  Who gives the permissions for that these days-- 
WMEX is long gone, and the management of WRKO today is quite 
different from the old Drake top-40 days... I don't wanna print 
something and then gave somebody threaten to sue me! 


From joe@attorneyross.com  Thu Mar 25 01:50:27 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:50:27 -0400
Subject: copyright question
In-Reply-To: <20100325015836.507B644C00E@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com>
References: <20100325015836.507B644C00E@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <4BAAF9A3.4573.AC15D5@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 24 Mar 2010 at 21:58, Donna Halper wrote:

> I know we probably don't have a ton of attorneys on this list, but we
> do have some authors.  I am working on a magazine article and I wanted
> to print a scanned copy of a top-40 survey from, let's say, the old
> WMEX, which is now defunct.  Or perhaps the old WRKO back when it was
> top-40.  Who gives the permissions for that these days-- WMEX is long
> gone, and the management of WRKO today is quite different from the old
> Drake top-40 days... I don't wanna print something and then gave
> somebody threaten to sue me! 
 
This is a complicated question.  If the survey form is old enough, 
it's possible that the copyright was never renewed under the old 
copyright law.  If the first 28-year term of the copyright expired 
after sometime after the late 1980s (I don't know the exact date), 
when the United States joined the Berne Convention and US copyright 
law was changed to conform to Berne, those copyrights were renewed 
automatically.

Next, assuming the copyrights are still in force, is who now controls 
the rights.  In the case of WRKO, which still has a continuing 
existence, the present owners may control rights and be able to grant 
permissions.  Or, if the company which then owned WRKO is still in 
existence, perhaps they do.  Or perhaps there is a successor company 
which succeeded to its rights.  Which may even be the current 
ownership of WRKO.

WMEX is a bigger problem.  The same principles apply, but it seems 
less likely that the present owners of 1510 would control the rights 
to WMEX survey forms.  Most likely it would be the heirs of the 
Richmond Brothers.

It's also possible that reprinting the survey sheets in a magazine 
article some 40-50 years later would constitute "fair use," which is 
an exception to copyright protection.  

If you are going to offer the article to a magazine, I would suggest 
you raise the problem with the magazine. They probably have some 
experience in dealing with rights issues.

None of this is to be considered legal advice.  Had this actually 
been actual legal advice, you would have been told to tune to 640 or 
1240 for instructions on payment of your bill.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com  Thu Mar 25 01:48:56 2010
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:48:56 -0400
Subject: Classical Radio on the ropes.....
References: <BDC1254752DF40AE8C25F038D30E9D7D@s20035>
	<FCFE6372-4B51-4FAC-B176-8EAD76C05099@charter.net>
Message-ID: <1A34A4C9458146858BD3F3024A4362FC@s20035>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Tomm" <nostaticatall@charter.net>
To: "Don" <Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com>
Cc: "B-R-I" <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Classical Radio on the ropes.....


>I don't think they're necessarily in trouble.  It's just that there  are 
>very few commercial classical stations left.

Yeah, that's the point.  They were/are in trouble.

Apparently there is not enough commercial revenue available for them to 
survive.

> KING  is simply adjusting to this reality, and wants to stay competitive 
> with other classical music providers, particularly in regards to the 
> internet.

I hardly think this was a move "to stay competitive".  I think it was a move 
to "survive".

> They have enough of a following in their area that they can  probably 
> bring in as much revenue, if not more, by using the  underwriting/donation 
> model as opposed to selling commercials at this  point.

Time will tell!



From rbello@belloassoc.com  Thu Mar 25 00:36:06 2010
From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:36:06 -0400
Subject: Classical Radio on the ropes.....
In-Reply-To: <FCFE6372-4B51-4FAC-B176-8EAD76C05099@charter.net>
References: <BDC1254752DF40AE8C25F038D30E9D7D@s20035>
	<FCFE6372-4B51-4FAC-B176-8EAD76C05099@charter.net>
Message-ID: <126949176201@mx05.gis.net>


What this discussion ignores is the legacy of the founding family of 
KING Broadcastring.
They gave the station to the community.  3 TVs were sold to Belo Corp. while
3 AMs and 2 FMs were sold to others.  WCRB 102.5 was not given away.

This link has a paragraph about the family who gave away so much to 
the community:
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/RetirementandWills/EscapeTheRatRace/millionaires-who-gave-it-away.aspx?GT1=33013



At 07:02 PM 3/24/2010, Dave Tomm wrote:
>I don't think they're necessarily in trouble.  It's just that there
>are very few commercial classical stations left.  The classical
>audience, whether they're listening locally or to an internet station,
>has now been conditioned to expect commercial free programming.  KING
>is simply adjusting to this reality, and wants to stay competitive
>with other classical music providers, particularly in regards to the
>internet.  They have enough of a following in their area that they can
>probably bring in as much revenue, if not more, by using the
>underwriting/donation model as opposed to selling commercials at this
>point.  It sounds to me like a good long term decision.
>
>It's slightly different from the WCRB situation, when they were bought
>out by a non-comm broadcast entity.  I suppose WGBH could have run
>that station as a commercial operation if they wished, but I think the
>move to non-comm status was for the same reasons KING is doing it.
>
>-Dave Tomm
>
>
>On Mar 24, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Don wrote:
>
>>
>>There is a BRI list member who constantly touts KING in Seattle as
>>an example of a well run classical station.
>>
>>Now it appears that KING is in trouble as well, and has to change
>>their business model.
>>
>>Classical KING FM to become listener supported
>>
>>http://www.king.org/pages/6544931.php
>>
>>""This is the next logical step in our evolution as a great
>>classical station," said Bayley."   "KING's founder Dorothy Bullitt
>>built a legacy of great classical programming and innovation at KING
>>FM.
>>
>>"That vision worked well for a time, but the handwriting is on the
>>wall," Bayley said. "With all the changes in media in the United
>>States, commercial advertising is no longer a fit for KING."
>>
>>I guess we are lucky to have WCRB alive and on the air in any form!

From rbello@belloassoc.com  Thu Mar 25 11:19:24 2010
From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:19:24 -0400
Subject: Classical Radio on the ropes.....
In-Reply-To: <1A34A4C9458146858BD3F3024A4362FC@s20035>
References: <BDC1254752DF40AE8C25F038D30E9D7D@s20035>
	<FCFE6372-4B51-4FAC-B176-8EAD76C05099@charter.net>
	<1A34A4C9458146858BD3F3024A4362FC@s20035>
Message-ID: <126953036001@mx04.gis.net>


Unlike many FM stations that  have sold for 50 to 100 million over 
the past 10 years,
KING FM has not debt.  "We have no mortgages"  Operating costs are generally
low for a classical station.

They are not in financial trouble.



At 01:48 AM 3/25/2010, you wrote:

>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Tomm" <nostaticatall@charter.net>
>To: "Don" <Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com>
>Cc: "B-R-I" <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:02 PM
>Subject: Re: Classical Radio on the ropes.....
>
>
>>I don't think they're necessarily in trouble.  It's just that 
>>there  are very few commercial classical stations left.
>
>Yeah, that's the point.  They were/are in trouble.
>
>Apparently there is not enough commercial revenue available for them 
>to survive.
>
>>KING  is simply adjusting to this reality, and wants to stay 
>>competitive with other classical music providers, particularly in 
>>regards to the internet.
>
>I hardly think this was a move "to stay competitive".  I think it 
>was a move to "survive".
>
>>They have enough of a following in their area that they 
>>can  probably bring in as much revenue, if not more, by using 
>>the  underwriting/donation model as opposed to selling commercials 
>>at this  point.
>
>Time will tell!
>

From lsochrin@rcn.com  Wed Mar 24 12:40:38 2010
From: lsochrin@rcn.com (Larry Sochrin)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:40:38 -0400
Subject: Jeff Katz returns to Boston as WXKS (AM) morning man
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1269446400.20613.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
References: <mailman.0.1269446400.20613.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
Message-ID: <1FFDB6D1-7F4A-4D81-9DEF-FCB1BE3E2721@rcn.com>



Can anyone remember anything about Jeff Katz during his earlier stint  
at  WRKO?  Google shows articles about his being fired from a station  
in North Carolina in 2008,  blaming that on (pick one) ratings  
declines, losing advertisers, Obama pushing out Republicans, his  
being a "CINO " (conservative in name only), and his being too mild.   
But I don't remember what the story was about him and WRKO the first  
time around.



>


From lglavin@mail.com  Wed Mar 24 16:51:29 2010
From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:51:29 -0400
Subject: Classical Radio on the ropes.....
In-Reply-To: <BDC1254752DF40AE8C25F038D30E9D7D@s20035>
References: <BDC1254752DF40AE8C25F038D30E9D7D@s20035>
Message-ID: <8CC99AAE96746EF-A5C-12BE@web-mmc-d09.sysops.aol.com>


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Don <Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com>
>To: B-R-I <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
>Sent: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 4:21 pm
>Subject: Classical Radio on the ropes.....


>There is a BRI list member who constantly touts KING in Seattle as an example of a well run classical station. 
 >Now it appears that KING is in trouble as well, and has to change their business model. 
 >Classical KING FM to become listener supported 
 >http://www.king.org/pages/6544931.php 
 
>"This is the next logical step in our evolution as a great classical station," said Bayley." "KING's founder Dorothy Bullitt built a legacy of great classical programming and innovation at KING >FM. 
 >"That vision worked well for a time, but the handwriting is on the wall," Bayley said. "With all the changes in media in the United States, commercial advertising is no longer a fit for KING." 
 >I guess we are lucky to have WCRB alive and on the air in any form!  


My position is that KING-FM was a WELL-PROGRAMMED station with playlists that it controlled reflecting the real world 
of classical music that one might encounter in performing venues in Seattle, Boston or perhaps even Omaha!  (I use the
term "playlists that it controlled" to separate them from concerts and operas it broadcast as well.  Even during the
worst days of Charles River/Nassau ownership, the Boston Symphony Orchestra broadcasts provided such a listening
experience.)  If KING-FM's switch to the public model results in  "underwriting messages", such as are heard on WCRB,
Pugettians may not notice the difference.  Something tells me that even as a commercial outlet, KING was not
beset by the many, um, "spurious" advertising messages heard on even generally respectable stations:
"get-out-of-credit-card-debt-without-lowering-your-credit-score"; "trade-in-your-gold-jewelry-for-cash";
"make-as-much-money-working-from-home-as-a-fulltime-job"; etc.





From wollman@bimajority.org  Thu Mar 25 15:25:03 2010
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:25:03 -0400
Subject: Classical Radio on the ropes.....
In-Reply-To: <1A34A4C9458146858BD3F3024A4362FC@s20035>
References: <BDC1254752DF40AE8C25F038D30E9D7D@s20035>
	<FCFE6372-4B51-4FAC-B176-8EAD76C05099@charter.net>
	<1A34A4C9458146858BD3F3024A4362FC@s20035>
Message-ID: <19371.47247.818210.636695@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:48:56 -0400, "Don" <Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com> said:

> I hardly think this was a move "to stay competitive".  I think it was a move 
> to "survive".

In business, as I'm sure Gary F. or Brian V. could tell you, "staying
competitive" is a necessary condition for "surviving".

-GAWollman


From wollman@bimajority.org  Thu Mar 25 15:45:11 2010
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:45:11 -0400
Subject: Scams on the radio
In-Reply-To: <8CC99AAE96746EF-A5C-12BE@web-mmc-d09.sysops.aol.com>
References: <BDC1254752DF40AE8C25F038D30E9D7D@s20035>
	<8CC99AAE96746EF-A5C-12BE@web-mmc-d09.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <19371.48455.433711.681929@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:51:29 -0400, lglavin@mail.com said:

> Pugettians may not notice the difference.  Something tells me that
> even as a commercial outlet, KING was not beset by the many, um,
> "spurious" advertising messages heard on even generally respectable
> stations:
> "get-out-of-credit-card-debt-without-lowering-your-credit-score";
> "trade-in-your-gold-jewelry-for-cash";
> "make-as-much-money-working-from-home-as-a-fulltime-job"; etc.

I just a few hours ago returned from a vacation in Washington (D.C.,
not the state), and I was surprised to find that the scams we hear
advertised all the time on the radio here are just as prevalent there.
You would think, in the backyard of the FTC and the FDA and the
Justice Department -- a city where a randomly-chosen stranger on the
street is probably a lawyer -- that the scammers would be a bit more
cautious in placing their time buys.  (Or perhaps some of those
lawyers work for the scammers, too, telling them just how to deliver
the pitch so that the marks understand it one way and the feds
understand it another, like all that FDA-inspired nonsense about
"helps support healthy X function"[1].)

(The Washington market is huge and has horrible traffic -- an order of
magnitude worse than it is here in Boston.  This morning I was
listening to WBQB (101.5 Fredericksburg -- about an hour south of DC
when the wind is blowing the right way and the moon is full) and their
traffic reports were all about DC -- nothing local.  Meanwhile,
WTOP-FM (103.5 Washington, with numerous simulcasts) was giving
traffic advisories for I-81 in West Virginia.  And my hotel's cable
system did not carry C-SPAN!)

-GAWollman

[1] Code for "does nothing" if you're the FDA -- a glass of water
"helps support healthy X function" for all X -- but which normal
people ordinarily interpret as "good for your X" or "helps your X
condition".


From brian_vita@cssinc.com  Thu Mar 25 16:24:19 2010
From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:24:19 -0400
Subject: Classical Radio on the ropes.....
In-Reply-To: <19371.47247.818210.636695@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <BDC1254752DF40AE8C25F038D30E9D7D@s20035>	<FCFE6372-4B51-4FAC-B176-8EAD76C05099@charter.net>	<1A34A4C9458146858BD3F3024A4362FC@s20035>
	<19371.47247.818210.636695@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <004801cacc59$28f1c790$7ad556b0$@com>

> > I hardly think this was a move "to stay competitive".  I think it was
> a move
> > to "survive".
> 
> In business, as I'm sure Gary F. or Brian V. could tell you, "staying
> competitive" is a necessary condition for "surviving".
> 
> -GAWollman
> 
Yep and sometimes it hurts to be competitive.
[Brian Vita] (Still in business after 26 years)


From gary@garysicecream.com  Thu Mar 25 16:33:47 2010
From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:33:47 -0400
Subject: Classical Radio on the ropes.....
In-Reply-To: <19371.47247.818210.636695@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <BDC1254752DF40AE8C25F038D30E9D7D@s20035>	<FCFE6372-4B51-4FAC-B176-8EAD76C05099@charter.net>	<1A34A4C9458146858BD3F3024A4362FC@s20035>
	<19371.47247.818210.636695@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <00b701cacc5a$7994fa90$6cbeefb0$@com>

"Staying competitive" is a necessary condition for surviving in business.

Gary F

**That was easy**



-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
Garrett Wollman
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:25 PM
To: Don
Cc: B-R-I
Subject: Re: Classical Radio on the ropes.....

<<On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:48:56 -0400, "Don" <Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com> said:

> I hardly think this was a move "to stay competitive".  I think it was a
move 
> to "survive".

In business, as I'm sure Gary F. or Brian V. could tell you, "staying
competitive" is a necessary condition for "surviving".

-GAWollman



From m_carney@yahoo.com  Thu Mar 25 17:29:13 2010
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:29:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Mary Richardson leaving WCVB
Message-ID: <803556.91427.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/news/mediaBiz/?p=975&srvc=home&position=recent

Is this the first step to cancelling "Chronicle"? I can understand her wanting to step back after so much time on the job, so perhaps this is a mutual agreement in the new world of reduced news budgets.


      

From m_carney@yahoo.com  Thu Mar 25 20:38:01 2010
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:38:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Weather Change at WBZ 4
Message-ID: <590058.46169.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

>From "The Scoop" - Ken Barlow's contract as chief meteorologist was not renewed. Todd Gutner is being promoted from mornings and Melissa Mack (who just started) will move from weekends to mornings. Barry Burbank is staying on weekends.

I noticed that Ken wasn't around a lot lately so perhaps he knew a while ago. It would have been nice if Barry got the job, but I guess that wasn't meant to be. 

http://hinghamweather.com/bostontvnews/?p=974#comments


      

From martinjwaters@yahoo.com  Thu Mar 25 21:05:17 2010
From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:05:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Mary Richardson leaving WCVB
In-Reply-To: <803556.91427.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <366094.53929.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 3/25/10, Maureen Carney <m_carney@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> Is this the first step to cancelling "Chronicle"? 

   I've wondered for a long time if Chronicle is the last of the 7:30 p.m. "news magazine" programs that many  major market network affiliates put on the air back in the '70s and '80s. (It was so far back in the day that the time slot mainly resulted from the stations running the "late feed" of their network news at 7 p.m.)

    Does anyone know of another survivor somewhere?


      

From wollman@bimajority.org  Thu Mar 25 21:18:40 2010
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:18:40 -0400
Subject: Mary Richardson leaving WCVB
In-Reply-To: <366094.53929.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <803556.91427.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<366094.53929.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <19372.2928.248336.745174@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:05:17 -0700 (PDT), Martin Waters <martinjwaters@yahoo.com> said:

>     Does anyone know of another survivor somewhere?

There was still one in Seattle last time I was there, but that was a
few years ago and I don't know if it's still around.

-GAWollman

From martinjwaters@yahoo.com  Thu Mar 25 21:53:11 2010
From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:53:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: copyright question
Message-ID: <645036.11032.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 3/24/10, Donna Halper <dlh@donnahalper.com> wrote:
> I am working on a magazine article and I
> wanted to print a scanned copy of a top-40 survey from,
> let's say, the old WMEX, which is now defunct.? Or
> perhaps the old WRKO back when it was top-40.? Who
> gives the permissions for that these days-- WMEX is long
> gone, and the management of WRKO today is quite different
> from the old Drake top-40 days... I don't wanna print
> something and then gave somebody threaten to sue me! 
???
???I don't know much about a law book, but I've always worked on the basis of what I call a broad interpretation of the "fair use" provision in copyright law. In daily journalism, or periodicals, or in scholarly papers, it's fair use to quote such items as a WMEX top 30 list in the context of discussing radio, or popular music, etc., back at that time. And the very nature of what you're writing means you're crediting the original source. The same goes for "quoting" it by reproducing an image of the original document. IMO, this case doesn't even require a very broad interpretation of fair use. 

???A broad interpretation, IMO, is an especially good way to go when the context is positive or neutral for the original author or issuer of the material. I think about it a lot more if the context is one of controversy. In plain English, despite the inevitable advice of attorneys to be extremely cautious [sorry, Attorney Ross :)) ], is there even a one-millionth of a percent chance that the Richmond Brothers' great-grandchildren or Entercom or General Tire and Rubber Co. actually going to sue over this?

???My approach really isn't as cavalier as that may make it appear. I go on the basis of, would a reasonable person agree that this is fair use. If yes, then, if someone wants to challenge it, let them. Meanwhile, we'll all commit free speech and contribute to a robust discussion of whatever the issue is. At the same time, I'll grant that it's easier to do that when working for a large news or other organization whose lawyers can deal with any incoming. 

???Also, regarding one of the points Joe Ross made: I have a hazy pseudo-recollection that before the big changes in the copyright laws that he mentioned, material was not automatically copyrighted by virtue of being created. In other words, is a top-30 list from, let's say, the 1960s, even copyrighted, if it wasn't registered in Washington and doesn't say copyright on it?





      

From wollman@bimajority.org  Fri Mar 26 00:42:34 2010
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:42:34 -0400
Subject: copyright question
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References: <645036.11032.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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<<On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:53:11 -0700 (PDT), Martin Waters <martinjwaters@yahoo.com> said:

> Also, regarding one of the points Joe Ross made: I have a hazy
> pseudo-recollection that before the big changes in the copyright
> laws that he mentioned, material was not automatically copyrighted
> by virtue of being created. In other words, is a top-30 list from,
> let's say, the 1960s, even copyrighted, if it wasn't registered in
> Washington and doesn't say copyright on it?

Your recollection is correct, Marty.  If it was first "published" (in
the technical sense understood by copyright lawyers, which does not
seem to include all the things you or I might consider publication)
prior to 1977, and did not have a valid copyright notice attached,
then it is in the public domain.  Note that this does not apply to
many kinds of non-textual works, nor to any unpublished works, which
(prior to the Copyright Act of 1976) were covered by a hodge-podge of
state copyright laws.  "Unpublished" works now have a near-perpetual
(125-year) copyright, so no unpublished works created after 1885 are
in the public domain yet.  I haven't seen the surveys in question, but
I have seen numerous other surveys and similar ephemera, and don't
recall ever seeing one with a copyright notice.

If the surveys do have a copyright notice, then I'd fall back on what
Joe said -- the copyright probably wasn't registered, or if it was, it
is extremely unlikely that it was renewed.  Nonrenewal (of a
sufficiently-old work to have required renewal) puts the work in the
public domain.  To be sure, one would want to pay a lawyer to grovel
over the Copyright Office's files (on the fourth floor of the Madison
Building at the Libary of Congress in Washington).

ObDisclaimer: IANAL,TINLA.  Seek advice of counsel before relying on
anything I wrote.

-GAWollman

[*] Note that the original purpose of copyright was to protect
printers -- later publishers, when those roles became distinct -- from
unauthorized competition.  From the Statute of Anne 1709, the original
copyright law in the British Empire, through the Copyright Act of
1909, copyright was structured as a way to protect publishers -- of
books and later musical works -- not as an inherent right of authors
and composers in their various creations.  That's why copyright
historically did not protect unpublished works.  The 1976 Act changed
all that (for the worse, many on the left would argue) by making
copyright inherent in the work as soon as it is "fixed in tangible
form" and without requiring any sort of registration or renewal to
demonstrate that the work has economic value worthy of protection.
This comes direct from the Berne Convention, and thus from the social
theories of continental Europe -- particularly France and Germany.
(If you want to pick on bad copyright law, however, both the Uruguay
Round Agreements Act and the Mickey Mouse^W^WSonny Bono Copyright Term
Extension Act are far, far worse.)  Enough ranting.

From joe@attorneyross.com  Fri Mar 26 00:57:27 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:57:27 -0400
Subject: Classical Radio on the ropes.....
In-Reply-To: <126953036001@mx04.gis.net>
References: <BDC1254752DF40AE8C25F038D30E9D7D@s20035>,
	<1A34A4C9458146858BD3F3024A4362FC@s20035>,
	<126953036001@mx04.gis.net>
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On 25 Mar 2010 at 11:19, Ron Bello wrote:

> Unlike many FM stations that  have sold for 50 to 100 million over the
> past 10 years, KING FM has not debt.  "We have no mortgages" 
> Operating costs are generally low for a classical station.
> 
> They are not in financial trouble.
 
That depends on what you mean by financial trouble.  The station may 
not owe money, but it could be at the point where income no longer 
covers operating costs.  That was the problem at WJIB that motivated 
Bob to do his annual fund-raising appeal.  The choice is either to 
become more aggressively commercial to make enough money to pay the 
bills and produce a decent profit for the owners or to go non-
commercial and rely on fundraising.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From joe@attorneyross.com  Fri Mar 26 01:23:05 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:23:05 -0400
Subject: copyright question
In-Reply-To: <19372.15162.329232.285968@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <645036.11032.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
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On 26 Mar 2010 at 0:42, Garrett Wollman wrote:

> <<On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:53:11 -0700 (PDT), Martin Waters
> <martinjwaters@yahoo.com> said:
> 
> > Also, regarding one of the points Joe Ross made: I have a hazy
> > pseudo-recollection that before the big changes in the copyright
> > laws that he mentioned, material was not automatically copyrighted
> > by virtue of being created. In other words, is a top-30 list from,
> > let's say, the 1960s, even copyrighted, if it wasn't registered in
> > Washington and doesn't say copyright on it?

Under the 1909 copyright law, which applied until 1 January 1978, a 
work published with a copyright notice was protected by copyright.  
It didn't have to be registered.  But until the late-1980s revision 
for the Berne Convention, it had to be registered to be renewed and 
the renewal had to be registered, to renew the copyright for a second 
term.  The initial term was 28 years.  Under pre-1976 law (most of 
whose provisions took effect on 1 January 1978), the renewal term was 
for another 28 years.  Under the 1976 law, the renewal term was 47 
years, for a total of 75.

> Your recollection is correct, Marty.  If it was first "published" (in
> the technical sense understood by copyright lawyers, which does not
> seem to include all the things you or I might consider publication)
> prior to 1977, and did not have a valid copyright notice attached,
> then it is in the public domain.  Note that this does not apply to
> many kinds of non-textual works, nor to any unpublished works, which
> (prior to the Copyright Act of 1976) were covered by a hodge-podge of
> state copyright laws.  "Unpublished" works now have a near-perpetual
> (125-year) copyright, so no unpublished works created after 1885 are
> in the public domain yet.  I haven't seen the surveys in question, but
> I have seen numerous other surveys and similar ephemera, and don't
> recall ever seeing one with a copyright notice.

I have three WCOP survey sheets from 1958-59.  They all have 
copyright notices in the name of Plough Broadcasting Corporation.

> If the surveys do have a copyright notice, then I'd fall back on what
> Joe said -- the copyright probably wasn't registered, or if it was, it
> is extremely unlikely that it was renewed.  Nonrenewal (of a
> sufficiently-old work to have required renewal) puts the work in the
> public domain.  To be sure, one would want to pay a lawyer to grovel
> over the Copyright Office's files (on the fourth floor of the Madison
> Building at the Libary of Congress in Washington).

There is also the Catalog of Copyright Entries, a regular book 
published by the Copyright Office, a copy of which can be found in 
the Boston Public Library.  I had occasion to research a copyright 
back in the early 1970s, but not since.  I suspect the copyright 
entries are now on a CD-ROM or something, or perhaps even online.

A survey sheet from 1958 would have required renewal in 1987.  Since 
yesterday I looked it up and found that the Berne Convention 
Implementation Act of 1988 took effect on 1 March 1989, so that would 
be the date on which renewals became automatic.
 
-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From dlh@donnahalper.com  Fri Mar 26 01:29:04 2010
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:29:04 -0400
Subject: copyright question
In-Reply-To: <4BAC44B9.17315.9C85B3@joe.attorneyross.com>
References: <645036.11032.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<19372.15162.329232.285968@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<4BAC44B9.17315.9C85B3@joe.attorneyross.com>
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And it was said--

>I have three WCOP survey sheets from 1958-59.  They all have
>copyright notices in the name of Plough Broadcasting Corporation.

That was exactly my area of confusion-- there is no more Plough 
Broadcasting, and I too wanted to use a WCOP survey in my article-- 
but I can't imagine who could grant me permission.  SO are you saying 
the copyright renewed automatically in 1987, or are you saying I 
might be able to use it under "fair use"?  I figure that using a WRKO 
survey from the top-40 days requires asking somebody at the current 
WRKO and hoping for the best.  But those long since defunct stations 
are what puzzled me.    


From wollman@bimajority.org  Fri Mar 26 01:36:54 2010
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:36:54 -0400
Subject: copyright question
In-Reply-To: <20100326052902.CC9A51B403C@relay20.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com>
References: <645036.11032.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<19372.15162.329232.285968@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
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<<On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:29:04 -0400, Donna Halper <dlh@donnahalper.com> said:

> That was exactly my area of confusion-- there is no more Plough 
> Broadcasting, and I too wanted to use a WCOP survey in my article-- 
> but I can't imagine who could grant me permission.  SO are you saying 
> the copyright renewed automatically in 1987, or are you saying I 
> might be able to use it under "fair use"?  I figure that using a WRKO 
> survey from the top-40 days requires asking somebody at the current 
> WRKO and hoping for the best.  But those long since defunct stations 
> are what puzzled me.    

I think that what Joe's saying is that, if you want to be sure you're
within your rights, you have to hire a lawyer to search the records
and give you advice appropriate to your specific situation.  (Or let
your publisher do the same -- all reputable publishers have people
whose job is to handle clearing rights for stuff like this, although
they usually try to make the author do all the work becaues the
research is tedious and the legal fees are not cheap.)

-GAWollman

From dlh@donnahalper.com  Fri Mar 26 01:50:19 2010
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:50:19 -0400
Subject: copyright question
In-Reply-To: <19372.18422.331895.821026@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <645036.11032.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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	<19372.18422.331895.821026@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
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At 01:36 AM 3/26/2010, Garrett Wollman wrote:

>I think that what Joe's saying is that, if you want to be sure you're
>within your rights, you have to hire a lawyer to search the records
>and give you advice appropriate to your specific situation.

SO how do some tribute websites manage to post surveys on their 
site-- I've seen lots of them, and I didn't know if the person who 
put the site together had all found ways to get permission or if they 
just hoped nobody would notice and ask them to remove the scanned surveys.


From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com  Fri Mar 26 01:48:13 2010
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:48:13 -0400
Subject: Classical Radio on the ropes.....
References: <BDC1254752DF40AE8C25F038D30E9D7D@s20035>,
	<1A34A4C9458146858BD3F3024A4362FC@s20035>,
	<126953036001@mx04.gis.net>
	<4BAC3EB7.11065.850EDD@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <4347AD18A9F04E1690C068DC50875378@s20035>




> On 25 Mar 2010 at 11:19, Ron Bello wrote:
>
>> Unlike many FM stations that  have sold for 50 to 100 million over the
>> past 10 years, KING FM has not debt.  "We have no mortgages"

But the assett still has to perform.

>> Operating costs are generally low for a classical station.

Not low enough apparently.

When the station uses terms like:  "the writing is on the wall"....it sounds 
like they are trying to find a way to survive. 


From wollman@bimajority.org  Fri Mar 26 02:03:56 2010
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:03:56 -0400
Subject: copyright question
In-Reply-To: <20100326055016.6A0B11B4053@relay20.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com>
References: <645036.11032.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<19372.15162.329232.285968@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
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<<On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:50:19 -0400, Donna Halper <dlh@donnahalper.com> said:

> SO how do some tribute websites manage to post surveys on their 
> site-- I've seen lots of them, and I didn't know if the person who 
> put the site together had all found ways to get permission or if they 
> just hoped nobody would notice and ask them to remove the scanned surveys.

Probably because the people who hold the rights -- to the extent those
rights still exist -- either:

a) aren't aware that they hold these rights (or couldn't prove it in
court), or

b) don't believe that this technical violation of their copyright
results in an economic harm sufficient to justify having their
corporate counsel find the appropriate ISP to complain to and send a
DMCA takedown notice, or

c) believe that they would ultimately lose on fair-use grounds and
don't want to waste their attorneys' (expensive) time.

Mostly (a), I suspect.

Most of these tribute sites are non-commercial, and republish material
which itself has no commercial value; this both improves the site
maintainer's chances of winning the fair-use balancing test, and
limits the available remedies should a case ever get to court.  If
you're publishing a book or magazine, you're engaging in commercial
activity so you don't get the benefits that private non-commercial
republishers do.

-GAWollman

From scott@fybush.com  Fri Mar 26 10:24:30 2010
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:24:30 -0400
Subject: Mary Richardson leaving WCVB
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References: <803556.91427.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<366094.53929.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Garrett Wollman wrote:
> <<On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:05:17 -0700 (PDT), Martin Waters <martinjwaters@yahoo.com> said:
> 
>>     Does anyone know of another survivor somewhere?
> 
> There was still one in Seattle last time I was there, but that was a
> few years ago and I don't know if it's still around.

Last I saw, "Evening Magazine" still exists at KING-TV in Seattle. 
There's also one at KPIX-TV in San Francisco.

Those two and the WCVB/WMUR "Chronicle" shows are the last ones I know of.

s

From m_carney@yahoo.com  Fri Mar 26 13:16:37 2010
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:16:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Mary Richardson leaving WCVB
In-Reply-To: <4BACC39E.5070704@fybush.com>
References: <803556.91427.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<366094.53929.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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	<4BACC39E.5070704@fybush.com>
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Speaking of KPIX didn't they do a round of layoffs and buyouts this week?



      

From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Fri Mar 26 14:09:37 2010
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:09:37 -0400
Subject: Jeff Katz returns to Boston as WXKS (AM) morning man
In-Reply-To: <1FFDB6D1-7F4A-4D81-9DEF-FCB1BE3E2721@rcn.com>
References: <mailman.0.1269446400.20613.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
	<1FFDB6D1-7F4A-4D81-9DEF-FCB1BE3E2721@rcn.com>
Message-ID: <1fbbbced1003261109y152ee94bp5ead62c0f515269f@mail.gmail.com>

I think he worked the 10pm-2 am shift then got paired with Darlene
McCarthy for mornings.
When doing  nights, there was a promo in which he was making fun of
the competition on
WBZ for "giving away pens if you answer a question about Glenn Miller"

In 1996 he was fired from WSTE Sacramento for joking about hitting
illegal immigrants with cars and getting a Taco Bell prize for it.

http://www.phillytalkradioonline.com/archive/katz_jeff2.html

In 1998 the Catholic League took Katz and McCarthy to task for such
things as suggesting brownies be used for Communion hosts.

http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1241946

This Herald article mentions that Katz "sees issues through the eyes
of his three young children, ages 8, 7 and 5...Katz said his
7-year-old daughter has some severe physical and mental-development
disabilities. 'I?m very, very active in advocating for kids like that
and looking out for them', Katz said."

From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net  Fri Mar 26 14:28:20 2010
From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (revdoug1@myfairpoint.net)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:28:20 -0400
Subject: Mary Richardson leaving WCVB
Message-ID: <20100326142820.lgxkpj5bkxwk84c4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>

The weekly "Bill Green's Maine" on WCSH and WLBZ is similar to 
"Chronicle."  Its principal focus, to be sure, is outdoor recreation, 
but it frequently presents features on other things of local interest.  
  -Doug


Quoting Scott Fybush <scott@fybush.com>:
> Garrett Wollman wrote:
> > <<On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:05:17 -0700 (PDT), Martin Waters
> <martinjwaters@yahoo.com> said:
> >
> >>     Does anyone know of another survivor somewhere?
> >
> > There was still one in Seattle last time I was there, but that was a
> > few years ago and I don't know if it's still around. 
>
> Last I saw, "Evening Magazine" still exists at KING-TV in Seattle. 
> There's also one at KPIX-TV in San Francisco. 
>
> Those two and the WCVB/WMUR "Chronicle" shows are the last ones I know of. 
>
> s
>




From billings@suscom-maine.net  Fri Mar 26 23:20:42 2010
From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:20:42 -0400
Subject: Fire Alarm during 11 PM News
Message-ID: <98C9269889564E26AEF3543B72CF7B80@DanPC>

A fire alarm went off during the live 11 PM news on WCSH tonight.  The viewers saw a slide and sometimes an empty chair behind the news desk for about 10 minutes.  

The alarm turned out to be caused by some cleaning chemicals being used in an office area and the news was back on the air at about 11:15.  When Pat Callahan and Joe Cupo came on the air, they mentioned being outside on the coldest night of the week,

-- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine

From joe@attorneyross.com  Sat Mar 27 00:24:01 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:24:01 -0400
Subject: copyright question
In-Reply-To: <20100326055016.6A0B11B4053@relay20.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com>
References: <645036.11032.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<19372.18422.331895.821026@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>,
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On 26 Mar 2010 at 1:50, Donna Halper wrote:

> SO how do some tribute websites manage to post surveys on their 
> site-- I've seen lots of them, and I didn't know if the person who put
> the site together had all found ways to get permission or if they just
> hoped nobody would notice and ask them to remove the scanned surveys.

I think that may be fair use, but I don't know the answer without 
research.  If you like I'll put you in touch with a local lawyer who 
does intellectual property issues.  I think she will know about such 
things.   

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From joe@attorneyross.com  Sat Mar 27 00:24:00 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:24:00 -0400
Subject: copyright question
In-Reply-To: <20100326052902.CC9A51B403C@relay20.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com>
References: <645036.11032.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
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On 26 Mar 2010 at 1:29, Donna Halper wrote:

> That was exactly my area of confusion-- there is no more Plough 
> Broadcasting, and I too wanted to use a WCOP survey in my article--
> but I can't imagine who could grant me permission.  SO are you saying
> the copyright renewed automatically in 1987, or are you saying I might
> be able to use it under "fair use"?  I figure that using a WRKO survey
> from the top-40 days requires asking somebody at the current WRKO and
> hoping for the best.  But those long since defunct stations are what
> puzzled me.    

No, copyrights didn't self-renew until March 1989.  If a copyright's 
first term expired in 1987, the copyright expired unless it was 
renewed by a filing in the Copyright Office, and that can be 
ascertained.

Usually there is someone who takes over the assets of companies that 
liquidate.  What became of Plough Broadcasting?  Did someone buy it 
out?

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From joe@attorneyross.com  Sat Mar 27 00:24:01 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:24:01 -0400
Subject: copyright question
In-Reply-To: <19372.20044.364418.762359@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <645036.11032.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<20100326055016.6A0B11B4053@relay20.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com>,
	<19372.20044.364418.762359@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <4BAD8861.13902.5DC743@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 26 Mar 2010 at 2:03, Garrett Wollman wrote:

> Most of these tribute sites are non-commercial, and republish material
> which itself has no commercial value; this both improves the site
> maintainer's chances of winning the fair-use balancing test, and
> limits the available remedies should a case ever get to court.  If
> you're publishing a book or magazine, you're engaging in commercial
> activity so you don't get the benefits that private non-commercial
> republishers do.

Some sites may actually have permission.  For example, I have it on 
good authority that the International Jack Benny Fan Club 
http://www.jackbenny.org operates with the approval of Jack Benny's 
estate.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From markwats@comcast.net  Sat Mar 27 08:14:59 2010
From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 08:14:59 -0400
Subject: Weather Change at WBZ 4
References: <590058.46169.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EC7F8E70B233403D916F4C1B74B57B22@Mark>

 Maureen Carney wrote:

> I noticed that Ken wasn't around a lot lately so perhaps he knew a while 
> ago. It would have been nice if Barry got the job, but I guess that wasn't 
> meant to be.

  According to an article I read in Friday's Herald, Ken's brother was 
killed in a car accident two weeks ago, which would account for him being 
out a few days in that time period. And to come back to work on the heels of 
such a tragedy and days later you're being shown the door. I don't watch 
Channel 4's news very much, although occasionally I catch some of the 9PM on 
WSBK, I thought Ken did a good job.

   And I agree with you about Barry Burbank. If I'm correct he's been at 'BZ 
for over 30 years, yet they never gave him the chief title or the 5, 6 & 
11PM newscasts, although he does fill in there when needed, such as the last 
couple of nights. When they unceremoniously showed Bruce Schwoegler the door 
several years ago Barry should have been moved up. He did have the weekday 
morning & middays at one time before being relegated back to weekends/fill 
in.

Mark Watson 



From m_carney@yahoo.com  Sat Mar 27 08:20:34 2010
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 05:20:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Weather Change at WBZ 4
In-Reply-To: <EC7F8E70B233403D916F4C1B74B57B22@Mark>
References: <590058.46169.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<EC7F8E70B233403D916F4C1B74B57B22@Mark>
Message-ID: <330528.60699.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Even before the tragedy with his brother Ken seemed to take a lot of time off. I read somewhere else that his family went back to Minnesota and perhaps that has something to do with it. I used to watch WBZ in the mornings primarily because of Barry Burbank and Scott Wahle. Since they both left that show I can't watch it. It's like looking at a train wreck.


      

From rbello@belloassoc.com  Sat Mar 27 10:53:12 2010
From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:53:12 -0400
Subject: Weather Change at WBZ 4
In-Reply-To: <330528.60699.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <590058.46169.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<EC7F8E70B233403D916F4C1B74B57B22@Mark>
	<330528.60699.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <90ec04421003270753g778da406qd97ecfaaa90f76d7@mail.gmail.com>

I find this push for Barry Burbank to be the Chief Meteroligist almost
humorous.
Should he get the position just because he has been there the longest ?
WBZ must have a reason he has not been moved up.  As he is still at 'BZ
after all these years, it is doubtfully because Barry is the high cost
option.

I find him difficult to watch.  His delivery is not smooth and fluid.
His appearance is drawn and gaunt.


On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Maureen Carney <m_carney@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Even before the tragedy with his brother Ken seemed to take a lot of time
> off. I read somewhere else that his family went back to Minnesota and
> perhaps that has something to do with it. I used to watch WBZ in the
> mornings primarily because of Barry Burbank and Scott Wahle. Since they both
> left that show I can't watch it. It's like looking at a train wreck.
>
>

From wollman@bimajority.org  Sat Mar 27 11:52:36 2010
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 11:52:36 -0400
Subject: copyright question
In-Reply-To: <4BAD8860.27850.5DC53F@joe.attorneyross.com>
References: <645036.11032.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<4BAC44B9.17315.9C85B3@joe.attorneyross.com>
	<20100326052902.CC9A51B403C@relay20.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com>
	<4BAD8860.27850.5DC53F@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <19374.10692.924729.639443@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:24:00 -0400, "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com> said:

> Usually there is someone who takes over the assets of companies that 
> liquidate.  What became of Plough Broadcasting?  Did someone buy it 
> out?

Well, the successor to Plough -- which, you will recall, was a drug
company -- is today's Merck & Co.  According to Wikipedia, Plough
merged with Schering in 1971, and Schering-Plough merged with Merck
last year.  (Note that Schering, like Bayer and Merck, had its
U.S. operations confiscated during one of the World Wars, so the
U.S. Schering Corp. was not owned by Schering AG at the time of the
merger.  Schering AG later merged with Bayer AG.)  So the company
clearly still exists.  The question then becomes one of what was
included in the sale contract when Plough sold the station in
question.

-GAWollman

From billohno@gmail.com  Sat Mar 27 15:28:34 2010
From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:28:34 -0400
Subject: Weather Change at WBZ 4
In-Reply-To: <90ec04421003270753g778da406qd97ecfaaa90f76d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <590058.46169.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<EC7F8E70B233403D916F4C1B74B57B22@Mark>	<330528.60699.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<90ec04421003270753g778da406qd97ecfaaa90f76d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BAE5C62.6050608@gmail.com>

On 3/27/2010 10:53 AM, Ron Bello wrote:
> I find this push for Barry Burbank to be the Chief Meteroligist almost
> humorous.
> Should he get the position just because he has been there the longest ?
>    

The one thing that WBZ used to seem to 'get' was the loyalty of Greater 
Boston viewers/listeners and their ability <gasp> to recognize loyalty 
in others. The drift away from that characteristic was not a locally 
driven notion. Years ago on this list it was clear what was happening as 
'corporate' began to get creative. The rest is history, too.

Bill O'Neill

From rbello@belloassoc.com  Sat Mar 27 16:10:57 2010
From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:10:57 -0400
Subject: Weather Change at WBZ 4
In-Reply-To: <4BAE5C62.6050608@gmail.com>
References: <590058.46169.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<EC7F8E70B233403D916F4C1B74B57B22@Mark>
	<330528.60699.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<90ec04421003270753g778da406qd97ecfaaa90f76d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BAE5C62.6050608@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <90ec04421003271310va8085f5xf23affc676f9fde6@mail.gmail.com>

Could it be corporate bean counters ?  Corporate bean counters with no
vision ?

When Group W ran WBZ they didn't have the revolving front door.  It was run
by broadcast veterans.  WBZ is so far down the corporate ladder now one has
to wonder if those making decisions ever watch / listen to their product and
if they do, do they know the difference.  The more they cut, the more they
push the consumer to those who do a better job / have not cut as much.
It becomes a viscous cycle.

A couple of weeks ago I was in Chicago on business.  At 10:30pm on Sunday,
WLS-FM had 2 streams playing at the same time.  Curious, I let it play to
see
how it would be before it was fixed.  Sadly, after 20 minutes I couldn't
take it
any more.  Little effort was made to make "The True Oldies Channel" sound
local in the nation's 3rd largest market.

Any business that doesn't invest and is looking at it as a cash machine is
doomed.



On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:28 PM, billohno@gmail.com <billohno@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 3/27/2010 10:53 AM, Ron Bello wrote:
>
>> I find this push for Barry Burbank to be the Chief Meteorologist almost
>> humorous.
>> Should he get the position just because he has been there the longest ?
>>
>>
>
> The one thing that WBZ used to seem to 'get' was the loyalty of Greater
> Boston viewers/listeners and their ability <gasp> to recognize loyalty in
> others. The drift away from that characteristic was not a locally driven
> notion. Years ago on this list it was clear what was happening as
> 'corporate' began to get creative. The rest is history, too.
>
> Bill O'Neill
>

From billohno@gmail.com  Sat Mar 27 16:34:56 2010
From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:34:56 -0400
Subject: Weather Change at WBZ 4
In-Reply-To: <90ec04421003271310va8085f5xf23affc676f9fde6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <590058.46169.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	
	<EC7F8E70B233403D916F4C1B74B57B22@Mark>	
	<330528.60699.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	
	<90ec04421003270753g778da406qd97ecfaaa90f76d7@mail.gmail.com>	
	<4BAE5C62.6050608@gmail.com>
	<90ec04421003271310va8085f5xf23affc676f9fde6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BAE6BF0.90203@gmail.com>

On 3/27/2010 4:10 PM, Ron Bello wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago I was in Chicago on business.  At 10:30pm on Sunday,
> WLS-FM had 2 streams playing at the same time.  Curious, I let it play 
> to see
> how it would be before it was fixed.  Sadly, after 20 minutes I 
> couldn't take it
> any more.  Little effort was made to make "The True Oldies Channel" sound
> local in the nation's 3rd largest market.

Can't think of a better functional assessment than this to reveal the 
soft underbelly of the beast.  For those who absolutely positively must 
get their fix of any particular genre or mix of music, they are getting 
it from a medium that they completely control - MP3 player. Is there 
anyone left who actually believes listeners will want music from a 
glorified MP3 patched into a 50kW amplifier without any value-added 
services or a live voice (or lame attempt at one)?

My terrestrial radio listening in early am I find myself listening 
during segments of the all-important 6-8a hours to WDEV (96.1 
Warren/Montpelier). They put their investments, people on payroll 
(albeit modest enough to praise these guys in the booth even more) on 
the air. Okay, it's a rural state so you get dairy info, radio flea 
market, and local news that includes a WCAX-TV reporter with daily q&a 
with booth about the state house, etc. and a live q&a with local 
meteorologist.

102.9 in Burlington [disclaimer - I do man on street drops on public 
interest issues] while it is tracked, there is a strong initiative there 
to become more curious about and available to the mind of the local 
listeners and get their voices on the air throughout the clock, blending 
in with the flow of the music. Still a work in progress but what seems 
to be evolving into an interesting hybrid I've not heard before. It 
requires reckless abandon on one end, dutiful structure on the other, 
and talent in the middle.

Bill O'Neill

From joe@attorneyross.com  Sun Mar 28 01:39:43 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 01:39:43 -0400
Subject: copyright question
In-Reply-To: <19374.10692.924729.639443@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <645036.11032.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<4BAD8860.27850.5DC53F@joe.attorneyross.com>,
	<19374.10692.924729.639443@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <4BAEEB9F.13030.8BA0DF@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 27 Mar 2010 at 11:52, Garrett Wollman wrote:

> Well, the successor to Plough -- which, you will recall, was a drug
> company -- is today's Merck & Co.  According to Wikipedia, Plough
> merged with Schering in 1971, and Schering-Plough merged with Merck
> last year.  (Note that Schering, like Bayer and Merck, had its U.S.
> operations confiscated during one of the World Wars, so the U.S.
> Schering Corp. was not owned by Schering AG at the time of the merger.
>  Schering AG later merged with Bayer AG.)  So the company clearly
> still exists.  The question then becomes one of what was included in
> the sale contract when Plough sold the station in question.
 
More than that.  Plough, I believe, sold to Tanger, who changed WCOP 
(by then WACQ) into WHUE.  Then Tanger sold to Greater Media, who 
turned it into WMEX, etc.  So it's possible that the current station 
owners, or anyone else along the chain, own the rights to those old 
survey sheets, depending on the nature of the sales contracts, 
particularly whether the buyer acquired intellectual property or just 
the license, physical property, and real estate.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From wollman@bimajority.org  Sun Mar 28 02:49:51 2010
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 02:49:51 -0400
Subject: copyright question
In-Reply-To: <4BAEEB9F.13030.8BA0DF@joe.attorneyross.com>
References: <645036.11032.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<4BAD8860.27850.5DC53F@joe.attorneyross.com>
	<19374.10692.924729.639443@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<4BAEEB9F.13030.8BA0DF@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <19374.64527.480689.572042@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 01:39:43 -0400, "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com> said:

> More than that.  Plough, I believe, sold to Tanger, who changed WCOP 
> (by then WACQ) into WHUE.  Then Tanger sold to Greater Media, who 
> turned it into WMEX, etc.  So it's possible that the current station 
> owners, or anyone else along the chain, own the rights to those old 
> survey sheets, depending on the nature of the sales contracts, 
> particularly whether the buyer acquired intellectual property or just 
> the license, physical property, and real estate.

Indeed, it's also possible that those rights belong to the (successors
of) the owners of any of the ex-Plough stations -- if, as Plough
Broadcasting was being wound down, the last stations sold also
included the corporate entity that owned the copyrights.  It often
happens that broadcast stations are not sold in themselves, but
rather, the controlling interest in some corporation which controls
the limited partnership which owns the three LLCs which each own
various assets that make up the station.  Often these ownership
structures are maintained by the new owners, sometimes under the same
names.  (Recall that many Clear Channel stations are still licensed to
Citicasters, a corporate name which dates from the bankruptcy of Taft
Broadcasting.  Citicasters merged with Jacor, and became a paper tiger
through which most of Jacor's FCC licenses were held; when Jacor
merged with Clear Channel, it remained in this role alongside Capstar
TX Limited Partnership and a number of other sister entities.)  

(On the other hand, sometimes owners sell or trade the stations
directly, but keep the shell corporations -- we all remember that
WROR-FM used to be licensed to Greater Washington Radio, Inc., a
remnant of a trade that Greater Media did with Evergreen
Communications involving the 99.5 in Washington.  Greater eventually
did the pro-forma assignment to bring 105.7 under the same banner as
their other stations.  For similar reasons, 92.9 and 99.5 here were
for a while owned by Greater Los Angeles Radio.)

-GAWollman


From heritageradio@msn.com  Mon Mar 29 01:44:41 2010
From: heritageradio@msn.com (Thomas Heathwood)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 01:44:41 -0400
Subject: WBZ Still proding a special Weather Service
In-Reply-To: <590058.46169.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<EC7F8E70B233403D916F4C1B74B57B22@Mark>	<330528.60699.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com><90ec04421003270753g778da406qd97ecfaaa90f76d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BAE5C62.6050608@gmail.com>
References: <590058.46169.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<EC7F8E70B233403D916F4C1B74B57B22@Mark>	<330528.60699.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com><90ec04421003270753g778da406qd97ecfaaa90f76d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BAE5C62.6050608@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT122-DS44EA829C87E3475686CBBB5200@phx.gbl>

RE:
The one thing that WBZ used to seem to 'get' was the loyalty of Greater 
Boston viewers/listeners and their ability <gasp> to recognize loyalty 
in others. The drift away from that characteristic was not a locally 
driven notion. Years ago on this list it was clear what was happening as 
'corporate' began to get creative. The rest is history, too.
Bill O'Neill

It might be of interest to many that WBZ/CBS has maintained a free telephone weather service for many, many years which can still be dialed up (get number from switchboard) 
24/7 and get a very recent weather condition report and forecast.  Surely we have to congratulate WBZ/CBS for continuing to provide this un=heralded public service since Don Kent days.
Tom Heathwood    HeritageRadio@msn.com<mailto:HeritageRadio@msn.com>     3/29


From rbello@belloassoc.com  Mon Mar 29 11:01:31 2010
From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:01:31 -0400
Subject: WBZ Still proding a special Weather Service
In-Reply-To: <SNT122-DS44EA829C87E3475686CBBB5200@phx.gbl>
References: <590058.46169.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<EC7F8E70B233403D916F4C1B74B57B22@Mark>
	<330528.60699.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<90ec04421003270753g778da406qd97ecfaaa90f76d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BAE5C62.6050608@gmail.com>
	<SNT122-DS44EA829C87E3475686CBBB5200@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <90ec04421003290801sbfa76ecl4335267e32536edd@mail.gmail.com>

Nice service to community but in the internet age with instant updated
weather
on our cell phones, is anyone using it ?


On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Thomas Heathwood <heritageradio@msn.com>wrote:

> RE:
> The one thing that WBZ used to seem to 'get' was the loyalty of Greater
> Boston viewers/listeners and their ability <gasp> to recognize loyalty
> in others. The drift away from that characteristic was not a locally
> driven notion. Years ago on this list it was clear what was happening as
> 'corporate' began to get creative. The rest is history, too.
> Bill O'Neill
>
> It might be of interest to many that WBZ/CBS has maintained a free
> telephone weather service for many, many years which can still be dialed up
> (get number from switchboard)
> 24/7 and get a very recent weather condition report and forecast.  Surely
> we have to congratulate WBZ/CBS for continuing to provide this un=heralded
> public service since Don Kent days.
> Tom Heathwood    HeritageRadio@msn.com<mailto:HeritageRadio@msn.com>
> 3/29
>
>

From heritageradio@msn.com  Tue Mar 30 04:02:24 2010
From: heritageradio@msn.com (Thomas Heathwood)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 04:02:24 -0400
Subject: Weather Service 
In-Reply-To: <590058.46169.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<EC7F8E70B233403D916F4C1B74B57B22@Mark>
	<330528.60699.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<90ec04421003270753g778da406qd97ecfaaa90f76d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BAE5C62.6050608@gmail.com>
	<SNT122-DS44EA829C87E3475686CBBB5200@phx.gbl>
	<90ec04421003290801sbfa76ecl4335267e32536edd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <590058.46169.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<EC7F8E70B233403D916F4C1B74B57B22@Mark>
	<330528.60699.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<90ec04421003270753g778da406qd97ecfaaa90f76d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BAE5C62.6050608@gmail.com>
	<SNT122-DS44EA829C87E3475686CBBB5200@phx.gbl>
	<90ec04421003290801sbfa76ecl4335267e32536edd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT122-DS206DED9C458A06E85EDCABB51F0@phx.gbl>

Maybe so Ron, but personally I don't like getting my weather on a small distorted sounding cell phone or some tiny screen.  The WBZ telephone
report is a complete report done in good sound by one of the staff meteorologists which I can put up on "speaker-phone" and listen comfortably .
Actually, the computer ISP that I use pre-programs local weather on its welcome screen. TV weather has now developed into lengthy, often inaccurate 
reports that open with a "tease" and extend several minutes to get the basic information one needs.  Sure ain't like the days of old radio weather with 
E.B. Rideout, Don Kent and others from the old days.
Tom Heathwood.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ron Bello<mailto:rbello@belloassoc.com> 
  To: Thomas Heathwood<mailto:heritageradio@msn.com> 
  Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org<mailto:boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org> 
  Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:01 AM
  Subject: Re: WBZ Still proding a special Weather Service


  Nice service to community but in the internet age with instant updated weather
  on our cell phones, is anyone using it ?



From joe@attorneyross.com  Wed Mar 31 00:14:41 2010
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:14:41 -0400
Subject: WBZ Still proding a special Weather Service
Message-ID: <4BB2CC31.22469.2120974@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 29 Mar 2010 at 1:44, Thomas Heathwood wrote:

> It might be of interest to many that WBZ/CBS has maintained a free
> telephone weather service for many, many years which can still be
> dialed up (get number from switchboard) 24/7 and get a very recent
> weather condition report and forecast.  Surely we have to
> congratulate WBZ/CBS for continuing to provide this un=heralded
> public service since Don Kent days. Tom Heathwood   

So what's the phone number?

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From heritageradio@msn.com  Wed Mar 31 01:39:20 2010
From: heritageradio@msn.com (Thomas Heathwood)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 01:39:20 -0400
Subject: WBZ Weather Line
In-Reply-To: <4BB2CC31.22469.2120974@joe.attorneyross.com>
References: <4BB2CC31.22469.2120974@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <SNT122-DS13730F5BCE6C2A0B0C4629B51E0@phx.gbl>

The telephone number for the WBZ telephone weather line is:  617-787-7372.
Tom Heathwood      3/31
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: A. Joseph Ross<mailto:joe@attorneyross.com> 
  To: Thomas Heathwood<mailto:heritageradio@msn.com> 
  Cc: Boston Radio Interest<mailto:boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org> 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:14 AM
  Subject: Re: WBZ Still proding a special Weather Service


  On 29 Mar 2010 at 1:44, Thomas Heathwood wrote:

  > It might be of interest to many that WBZ/CBS has maintained a free
  > telephone weather service for many, many years which can still be
  > dialed up (get number from switchboard) 24/7 and get a very recent
  > weather condition report and forecast.  Surely we have to
  > congratulate WBZ/CBS for continuing to provide this un=heralded
  > public service since Don Kent days. Tom Heathwood   

  So what's the phone number?

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From raccoonradio@mail.com  Wed Mar 31 11:03:30 2010
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:03:30 -0400
Subject: WWZN to air all Red Sox games in Spanish
Message-ID: <8CC9EFA75699472-120C-889E@web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com>


 
http://revolutionboston.com/news/red-sox-en-espa%C3%B1ol

All Red Sox games in Spanish will air on WWZN 1510 starting with Opening Night this Sunday.
Santos/Rev. Boston says most games are weeknights and shouldn't interfere with progressive
talk but there may be times (some daytime weekday games) where the prog talk will be delayed
till night and also put online

The lease Santos has expires in Apr or May I think but it's possible he will renew and it'll just be
a situation of prog talk part time, plus Red Sox in Spanish and other brokered shows for 1510