From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Dec 1 23:28:36 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 23:28:36 -0500 Subject: WBUR does TV ads Message-ID: <201012020508.oB2589fo002430@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> So I noticed a bunch of billboards on the Expressway and Mass Pike promoting WBUR recently, but I had never seen a TV ad till tonight, when I saw them running one on WBZ-TV. Can any of you recall WBUR doing TV ads in the past? From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 2 07:33:26 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 07:33:26 -0500 Subject: WBUR does TV ads References: <201012020508.oB2589fo002430@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <93326A71A08446779FCE3C76EADA5F2A@SatU205S5044> No, but I must have seen the same TV ad for WBUR and I wondered whether WBZ accepted the ads because they were legally required not to turn them down, or they did it notwithstanding that the ads advertise a station that competes with WBZ (AM), or they did it because the TV people said to themselves, "nobody watches such spots anyhow, so what harm can it do?" If the last, they are denigrating the efficacy and value of their own product! If WBZ-TV employees appear on WBUR fund-raisers (can't remember such appearances in the recent past), could this be part of some sort of tradeout? After all, appearances by TV personalities on public radio fund-raisers can be allegeged to be of promotional value to the TV station. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Boston Radio" Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:28 PM Subject: WBUR does TV ads > So I noticed a bunch of billboards on the Expressway and Mass Pike > promoting WBUR recently, but I had never seen a TV ad till tonight, > when I saw them running one on WBZ-TV. Can any of you recall WBUR > doing TV ads in the past? > From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Dec 2 08:35:05 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 13:35:05 +0000 Subject: Weekly Dig stands by EEI-FNX story Message-ID: <801330890-1291296906-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2128338715-@bda268.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Jeff Lawrence who is the publisher of the Weekly Dig stands by his story about Entercom's interest in WFNX - Herald says Jason Wolfe denies it http://bostonherald.com/business/media/view/20101202channel_7_alum_gets_cbs_anchor_gig_also_weei_said_to_eye_fm_move/ Sent on from my BlackBerry? so typos are because of tiny keys From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Dec 2 09:40:25 2010 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 08:40:25 -0600 Subject: School Closings & Delays On The Radio Message-ID: I posted this on my Facebook page...and YES, it is radio related! I am kinda embarrassed for my old high school, Bacon Academy in Colchester, Connecticut. Ok, so this is a small, minor thing and I may be the only one who notices or cares, but geez... Go to the link below to read the latest newsletter from the school: http://baconacademy.org/News/Newsletter/newsletter.pdf This is a newsletter from November 2010 not November 1998! (Hint hint!!!) ...Go to page 9 and scroll about halfway down Page 9!! Any Radio Geeks/Friends/people in New England will notice an absolutely glaring error! If you don't.. hand back in your radio geek card..NOW! From aerie.ma@comcast.net Thu Dec 2 10:10:19 2010 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 10:10:19 -0500 Subject: School Closings & Delays On The Radio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1BAFF440094945ED8549E5133B3F628A@CHEM214> Gee...if WNLC is back on the air, WWZN is gonna have to pull in that pattern even more tightly :) -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Paul B. Walker, Jr. Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:40 AM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: School Closings & Delays On The Radio I posted this on my Facebook page...and YES, it is radio related! I am kinda embarrassed for my old high school, Bacon Academy in Colchester, Connecticut. Ok, so this is a small, minor thing and I may be the only one who notices or cares, but geez... Go to the link below to read the latest newsletter from the school: http://baconacademy.org/News/Newsletter/newsletter.pdf This is a newsletter from November 2010 not November 1998! (Hint hint!!!) ...Go to page 9 and scroll about halfway down Page 9!! Any Radio Geeks/Friends/people in New England will notice an absolutely glaring error! If you don't.. hand back in your radio geek card..NOW! From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Dec 2 10:49:11 2010 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 09:49:11 -0600 Subject: School Closings & Delays On The Radio In-Reply-To: <1BAFF440094945ED8549E5133B3F628A@CHEM214> References: <1BAFF440094945ED8549E5133B3F628A@CHEM214> Message-ID: And even when WNLC-AM was on the air, you probably couldn't hear it in Colchester all the well at all during the day and certainly not at night. I wonder how many people in Colchester tried tuning to WNLC-AM before the sun would rise in the winter. Now I know why when I started high school in Colchester, in 1999 moving from Cromwell, that I couldn't heard WNLC-AM!! Paul Walker www.onairdj.com www.facebook.com/onairdj On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > Gee...if WNLC is back on the air, WWZN is gonna have to pull in that > pattern > even more tightly :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > Paul B. Walker, Jr. > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:40 AM > > I posted this on my Facebook page...and YES, it is radio related! > > I am kinda embarrassed for my old high school, Bacon Academy in Colchester, > Connecticut. > > Ok, so this is a small, minor thing and I may be the only one who notices > or > cares, but geez... > > Go to the link below to read the latest newsletter from the school: > http://baconacademy.org/News/Newsletter/newsletter.pdf > > This is a newsletter from November 2010 not November 1998! (Hint hint!!!) > > ...Go to page 9 and scroll about halfway down Page 9!! > > Any Radio Geeks/Friends/people in New England will notice an absolutely > glaring error! If you don't.. hand back in your radio geek card..NOW! > > From paulranderson@charter.net Thu Dec 2 10:07:09 2010 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 10:07:09 -0500 Subject: School Closings & Delays On The Radio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <961179F2-2A66-4082-96CF-8BCD8FCA53B5@charter.net> On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > ...Go to page 9 and scroll about halfway down Page 9!! > > Any Radio Geeks/Friends/people in New England will notice an absolutely > glaring error! If you don't.. hand back in your radio geek card..NOW! I get to keep my card. I wonder how long it takes for someone at that station to answer the phone when the school superintendent calls to say school is canceled. Funny how they list channels 3, 8 and 30 as a "Channel" but channel 61 as a "Fox". Paul From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Dec 2 11:10:21 2010 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 10:10:21 -0600 Subject: School Closings & Delays On The Radio In-Reply-To: <961179F2-2A66-4082-96CF-8BCD8FCA53B5@charter.net> References: <961179F2-2A66-4082-96CF-8BCD8FCA53B5@charter.net> Message-ID: Paul: Good for you, keep the card, you've earned it, lol ;) Glenn O'Brien noted you can't hear WICH-Am 1310 in Colchester before the sunrises either, and he's right. WICH is so directional that by night you can be driving down the highway towards Norwich.. and mind you, before several miles away, but be able to see their towers because of their high location.. and still get a jumble on 1310. Paul Walker www.onairdj.com www.facebook.com/onairdj On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Paul Anderson wrote: > On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > > > ...Go to page 9 and scroll about halfway down Page 9!! > > > > Any Radio Geeks/Friends/people in New England will notice an absolutely > > glaring error! If you don't.. hand back in your radio geek card..NOW! > > I get to keep my card. > > I wonder how long it takes for someone at that station to answer the phone > when the school superintendent calls to say school is canceled. > > Funny how they list channels 3, 8 and 30 as a "Channel" but channel 61 as a > "Fox". > > Paul > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Dec 2 11:30:40 2010 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 10:30:40 -0600 Subject: School Closings & Delays On The Radio In-Reply-To: <67BA4A44DD1B44298D01A68C26051FFA@SatU205S5044> References: <1BAFF440094945ED8549E5133B3F628A@CHEM214> <67BA4A44DD1B44298D01A68C26051FFA@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: Colchester is in extreme Northwestern New London County right near the New London/Middlesex/Hartford/Tolland County line. As i recall, the site was on Cross Road in Waterford, not too far from The Crystal Mall and what is now the Target store, which would put the array west and slightly south of New London. Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com www.facebook.com/onairdj On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I suspect that, when it ran its 10-kW D pattern and after the daytime > skywave from WWKB and WTOP quieted down, WNLC put a listenable signal > into Colchester--IF Colchester is where I think it is. (Isn't it > southeast of Hartford?) WNLC's three-tower day pattern was kind of a > squished, slightly asymmetrical cardioid aimed northeast and spreading > out broadly to the northwest and southeast. The site must have been a > bit northwest of New London. Believe it or not, the day pattern was > aimed TOWARD WMEX, a mere 77 miles away! The 5-kW night pattern was a > six-tower teardrop aimed southeast with radiation deeply suppressed > over close to 270 degrees. I remember hearing WNLC rather clearly on > I-91 near Hartford during the daytime. I also picked up the skywave in > the late afternoon once near Binghamton NY. > > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." < > walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> > To: "Jim Hall" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: School Closings & Delays On The Radio > > > > And even when WNLC-AM was on the air, you probably couldn't hear it >> in >> Colchester all the well at all during the day and certainly not at >> night. >> >> I wonder how many people in Colchester tried tuning to WNLC-AM >> before the >> sun would rise in the winter. >> >> Now I know why when I started high school in Colchester, in 1999 >> moving from >> Cromwell, that I couldn't heard WNLC-AM!! >> >> Paul Walker >> www.onairdj.com >> www.facebook.com/onairdj >> >> From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 2 11:13:56 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 11:13:56 -0500 Subject: School Closings & Delays On The Radio References: <1BAFF440094945ED8549E5133B3F628A@CHEM214> Message-ID: <67BA4A44DD1B44298D01A68C26051FFA@SatU205S5044> I suspect that, when it ran its 10-kW D pattern and after the daytime skywave from WWKB and WTOP quieted down, WNLC put a listenable signal into Colchester--IF Colchester is where I think it is. (Isn't it southeast of Hartford?) WNLC's three-tower day pattern was kind of a squished, slightly asymmetrical cardioid aimed northeast and spreading out broadly to the northwest and southeast. The site must have been a bit northwest of New London. Believe it or not, the day pattern was aimed TOWARD WMEX, a mere 77 miles away! The 5-kW night pattern was a six-tower teardrop aimed southeast with radiation deeply suppressed over close to 270 degrees. I remember hearing WNLC rather clearly on I-91 near Hartford during the daytime. I also picked up the skywave in the late afternoon once near Binghamton NY. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: "Jim Hall" Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: Re: School Closings & Delays On The Radio > And even when WNLC-AM was on the air, you probably couldn't hear it > in > Colchester all the well at all during the day and certainly not at > night. > > I wonder how many people in Colchester tried tuning to WNLC-AM > before the > sun would rise in the winter. > > Now I know why when I started high school in Colchester, in 1999 > moving from > Cromwell, that I couldn't heard WNLC-AM!! > > Paul Walker > www.onairdj.com > www.facebook.com/onairdj > > > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Jim Hall > wrote: > >> Gee...if WNLC is back on the air, WWZN is gonna have to pull in >> that >> pattern >> even more tightly :) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org >> Paul B. Walker, Jr. >> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:40 AM >> >> I posted this on my Facebook page...and YES, it is radio related! >> >> I am kinda embarrassed for my old high school, Bacon Academy in >> Colchester, >> Connecticut. >> >> Ok, so this is a small, minor thing and I may be the only one who >> notices >> or >> cares, but geez... >> >> Go to the link below to read the latest newsletter from the school: >> http://baconacademy.org/News/Newsletter/newsletter.pdf >> >> This is a newsletter from November 2010 not November 1998! (Hint >> hint!!!) >> >> ...Go to page 9 and scroll about halfway down Page 9!! >> >> Any Radio Geeks/Friends/people in New England will notice an >> absolutely >> glaring error! If you don't.. hand back in your radio geek >> card..NOW! >> >> From sid@wrko.com Thu Dec 2 08:52:06 2010 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 13:52:06 +0000 Subject: WBUR does TV ads In-Reply-To: <93326A71A08446779FCE3C76EADA5F2A@SatU205S5044> References: <201012020508.oB2589fo002430@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <93326A71A08446779FCE3C76EADA5F2A@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA0A0720@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> "I wondered whether WBZ accepted the ads because they were legally required not to turn them down..." Under what regulation or statue would WBZ be forced to accept any advertising at all (except for political ads for federal office)? Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From scott@fybush.com Thu Dec 2 12:56:41 2010 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 12:56:41 -0500 Subject: WBUR does TV ads In-Reply-To: <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA0A0720@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> References: <201012020508.oB2589fo002430@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <93326A71A08446779FCE3C76EADA5F2A@SatU205S5044> <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA0A0720@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <4CF7DDD9.9080309@fybush.com> On 12/2/2010 8:52 AM, Sid Schweiger wrote: > "I wondered whether WBZ accepted the ads because they were legally > required not to turn them down..." > > Under what regulation or statue would WBZ be forced to accept any > advertising at all (except for political ads for federal office)? None whatsoever, of course. Traditionally, at least in my days at WBZ, TV sales and radio sales were separate entities, and my recollection was that it was not uncommon to see spots for other commercial radio stations on WBZ-TV, or to hear spots for other commercial TV stations on WBZ radio. Their money was green, after all. s From sid@wrko.com Thu Dec 2 10:09:30 2010 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 15:09:30 +0000 Subject: School Closings & Delays On The Radio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA0A088C@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com> "I am kinda embarrassed for my old high school, Bacon Academy in Colchester, Connecticut. Ok, so this is a small, minor thing and I may be the only one who notices or cares, but geez... Go to the link below to read the latest newsletter from the school: http://baconacademy.org/News/Newsletter/newsletter.pdf This is a newsletter from November 2010 not November 1998! (Hint hint!!!) ...Go to page 9 and scroll about halfway down Page 9!! Any Radio Geeks/Friends/people in New England will notice an absolutely glaring error! If you don't.. hand back in your radio geek card..NOW!" Since Bacon Academy is not, presumably, overly populated by radio geeks, lower your blood pressure and save the embarrassment for a place where it's warranted. WNLC, IIRC, is now FM only (98.7?). Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From paul@derrynh.net Thu Dec 2 15:24:22 2010 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 15:24:22 -0500 Subject: School Closings & Delays On The Radio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9CB2A39BF09643FCA03D3A4309259BA5@PaulPC> How long has 1510 been silent? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:40 AM To: Subject: School Closings & Delays On The Radio > I posted this on my Facebook page...and YES, it is radio related! > > I am kinda embarrassed for my old high school, Bacon Academy in > Colchester, > Connecticut. > > Ok, so this is a small, minor thing and I may be the only one who notices > or > cares, but geez... > > Go to the link below to read the latest newsletter from the school: > http://baconacademy.org/News/Newsletter/newsletter.pdf > > This is a newsletter from November 2010 not November 1998! (Hint hint!!!) > > ...Go to page 9 and scroll about halfway down Page 9!! > > Any Radio Geeks/Friends/people in New England will notice an absolutely > glaring error! If you don't.. hand back in your radio geek card..NOW! From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Dec 2 16:41:10 2010 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 15:41:10 -0600 Subject: School Closings & Delays On The Radio In-Reply-To: <9CB2A39BF09643FCA03D3A4309259BA5@PaulPC> References: <9CB2A39BF09643FCA03D3A4309259BA5@PaulPC> Message-ID: WNLC-AM has been silent for about 13 years, it went silent in 1997 but didn't turn in the license until 1998. On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > How long has 1510 been silent? > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:40 AM > To: > Subject: School Closings & Delays On The Radio > > > I posted this on my Facebook page...and YES, it is radio related! >> >> I am kinda embarrassed for my old high school, Bacon Academy in >> Colchester, >> Connecticut. >> >> Ok, so this is a small, minor thing and I may be the only one who notices >> or >> cares, but geez... >> >> Go to the link below to read the latest newsletter from the school: >> http://baconacademy.org/News/Newsletter/newsletter.pdf >> >> This is a newsletter from November 2010 not November 1998! (Hint hint!!!) >> >> ...Go to page 9 and scroll about halfway down Page 9!! >> >> Any Radio Geeks/Friends/people in New England will notice an absolutely >> glaring error! If you don't.. hand back in your radio geek card..NOW! >> > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Dec 4 17:27:52 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:27:52 -0500 Subject: You Say "Skizzum", I Say "Sizz-um"... References: Message-ID: WQOM's day pattern is a three-tower modified cardioid with the radiation maximum at 90 degrees true. IIRC, the maximum inverse-distance field--and it's pretty broad--is ~5700 mV/m @1km, which is equivalent to ~200 kW from the better-than half-wave towers. If you compare 5700 mV/m with the Class B minimum of 281 mV/m/kW @ 1km, the equivalent power is about 400 kW ND. Forget about not feeding the fishes! All that power really is necessary to deliver a competitive signal to downtown Boston because, according to measurements taken for WAMG and (then) WBIX, the soil conductivity east of the site is a very dramtically low 0.1 mS/m, a value that I thought never ocurred in nature except in granite quarries and between the skyscrapers of places like midtown Manhattan. Apparently, the low conductivity is real east-northeast of Ashland, though. The pattern has two closely spaced radiation minima at 240 and 300 degrees true. The ID field at 1 km is 281 mV/m, the equivalent of what you'd get from those tall towers if you fed one of them with a skosh less than 500W ND. The 240-degree minimum is the one that protects KYW and the value was set to provide daytime-skywave protection so that no separate critical-hours pattern is required. Between those two minima is a tiny lobe with an ID maximum at 270 degrees of a little more than 300 mV/m @ 1km or roughly the equivalent of 1 kW ND from 1/4-wave towers. The five-tower night pattern runs at 2.5 kW and produces a fairly narrow teardrop pattern centered at 90-degrees true with about 240 degrees of deeply suppressed radiation and an ID value of ~1600 mV/m @1km at 90 degrees. I don't know WQOM's NIF. I do know that it was 8.6 mV/m back in the early '80s when the station was WGTR and the FCC had not yet redefined NIF to include contributions from first-adjacent-channel skywaves. The 8.6 mV/m came almost entirely from KYW. Today it's bound to be more than a little higher (probably more than 10 mV/m) because of the contributions from WEPN and CBA. CBA, though dark, almost surely does not drop out of the calculation because, by US-Canada treaty it requires protection over Canadian soil notwithstanding that it is not operating. Anyhow, WQOM's NIF probably does not cross Route 128. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Snow" To: Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 12:12 PM Subject: Re: You Say "Skizzum", I Say "Sizz-um"... > You're looking in the wrong direction to justify their claims. If > their > directional pattern is anything like WRKO's > (or others in the market) the people cited may be in Maine, New > Hampshire, > Rhode Island and Canada's maritimes > depending on the co-channel and adjacent channel protections they > need. The > main object is to put just > enough signal over Boston without "feeding the fishes" with extra > precious > signal and to put the rest somewhere > it will do some good. Did I understand that the daytime pattern > would be > generated with two towers only? > That would result in some kind of modified "figure eight" plus or > minus some > parasitic re-radiation from the > other towers and the local high tension power lines. Not as neat as > what > you can get with three live towers, > I suppose. But if the FCC signed off on it... Oh, wait, I retract > that. > >>Their website claims that the signal will reach 5.5 million people, >>nearly > the whole population of >>Massachusetts. Considering that it will generate about 300 mv >>westward, > about the same as >>non-directional WILD-AM at full power, this seems unlikely. Maybe >>the call > letters could stand >>for We Quote Outsize Metrics. From gary@garysicecream.com Sat Dec 4 18:22:24 2010 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 18:22:24 -0500 Subject: You Say "Skizzum", I Say "Sizz-um"... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0cc901cb940a$1c35c1e0$54a145a0$@com> Let me get out my Rosetta Stone edition of Technicalese -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 5:28 PM To: Steve Snow; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: You Say "Skizzum", I Say "Sizz-um"... WQOM's day pattern is a three-tower modified cardioid with the radiation maximum at 90 degrees true. IIRC, the maximum inverse-distance field--and it's pretty broad--is ~5700 mV/m @1km, which is equivalent to ~200 kW from the better-than half-wave towers. If you compare 5700 mV/m with the Class B minimum of 281 mV/m/kW @ 1km, the equivalent power is about 400 kW ND. Forget about not feeding the fishes! All that power really is necessary to deliver a competitive signal to downtown Boston because, according to measurements taken for WAMG and (then) WBIX, the soil conductivity east of the site is a very dramtically low 0.1 mS/m, a value that I thought never ocurred in nature except in granite quarries and between the skyscrapers of places like midtown Manhattan. Apparently, the low conductivity is real east-northeast of Ashland, though. The pattern has two closely spaced radiation minima at 240 and 300 degrees true. The ID field at 1 km is 281 mV/m, the equivalent of what you'd get from those tall towers if you fed one of them with a skosh less than 500W ND. The 240-degree minimum is the one that protects KYW and the value was set to provide daytime-skywave protection so that no separate critical-hours pattern is required. Between those two minima is a tiny lobe with an ID maximum at 270 degrees of a little more than 300 mV/m @ 1km or roughly the equivalent of 1 kW ND from 1/4-wave towers. The five-tower night pattern runs at 2.5 kW and produces a fairly narrow teardrop pattern centered at 90-degrees true with about 240 degrees of deeply suppressed radiation and an ID value of ~1600 mV/m @1km at 90 degrees. I don't know WQOM's NIF. I do know that it was 8.6 mV/m back in the early '80s when the station was WGTR and the FCC had not yet redefined NIF to include contributions from first-adjacent-channel skywaves. The 8.6 mV/m came almost entirely from KYW. Today it's bound to be more than a little higher (probably more than 10 mV/m) because of the contributions from WEPN and CBA. CBA, though dark, almost surely does not drop out of the calculation because, by US-Canada treaty it requires protection over Canadian soil notwithstanding that it is not operating. Anyhow, WQOM's NIF probably does not cross Route 128. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Snow" To: Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 12:12 PM Subject: Re: You Say "Skizzum", I Say "Sizz-um"... > You're looking in the wrong direction to justify their claims. If > their > directional pattern is anything like WRKO's > (or others in the market) the people cited may be in Maine, New > Hampshire, > Rhode Island and Canada's maritimes > depending on the co-channel and adjacent channel protections they > need. The > main object is to put just > enough signal over Boston without "feeding the fishes" with extra > precious > signal and to put the rest somewhere > it will do some good. Did I understand that the daytime pattern > would be > generated with two towers only? > That would result in some kind of modified "figure eight" plus or > minus some > parasitic re-radiation from the > other towers and the local high tension power lines. Not as neat as > what > you can get with three live towers, > I suppose. But if the FCC signed off on it... Oh, wait, I retract > that. > >>Their website claims that the signal will reach 5.5 million people, >>nearly > the whole population of >>Massachusetts. Considering that it will generate about 300 mv >>westward, > about the same as >>non-directional WILD-AM at full power, this seems unlikely. Maybe >>the call > letters could stand >>for We Quote Outsize Metrics. From wollman@bimajority.org Sat Dec 4 18:59:13 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 18:59:13 -0500 Subject: You Say "Skizzum", I Say "Sizz-um"... In-Reply-To: <0cc901cb940a$1c35c1e0$54a145a0$@com> References: <0cc901cb940a$1c35c1e0$54a145a0$@com> Message-ID: <19706.54737.941405.32097@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Let me get out my Rosetta Stone edition of Technicalese > -----Original Message----- [93 lines deleted] Just a reminder folks: 1) Trim irrelevant quotation from your followups. Some people read this list in digest form and will not thank you for having to scroll through pages of text that they have already read. 2) That goes double if you're making a one-line joke in response to someone's long technical exposition. -GAWollman From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun Dec 5 08:55:45 2010 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 08:55:45 -0500 Subject: WMFO tour Message-ID: <000301cb9484$212ca900$6385fb00$@com> On Friday night WMFO, Tufts University Radio, celebrated its 40th anniversary with an open house. Angela Morley (GM, WMWM Salem), Mike S. (WMWM on-air & tech) and myself (WMWM on-air and tech) were on hand for the tour. My link for the photos I took is below: http://picasaweb.google.com/brian.vita/2010123WMFO?feat=directlink The station occupies the entire 3rd floor of Curtis Hall. They have a HUGE (as in bigger than I?ve seen at the Boston commercial stations) on-air studio, a small production studio, a larger production studio that has observation windows into a larger area that?s used as a recording studio, various rooms that serve as record (yes vinyl) libraries and other rooms that serve as offices, service areas etc. Their audio backbone is entirely digital with an Axia console in the on-air studio with remote nodes in all others. The STL link is fiber. Not bad for a college station. They are running Rivendell for automation and have been using a high speed CD ripper to ingest their entire library into the system. The numbers of 200K tracks/10Tb of active storage come to mind. They?ve been encouraging their staff to use the Rivendell for all playout but also have the usual CD/cassette decks in the studio as well as inputs for DJ?s to bring in their own MP3 players and laptops. There was an abundance of turntables and the recording studio sports a working Otari. Overall it was quite impressive for a college station. Thanks to the WMFO staff for opening their doors to us! Have another happy 40, if radio?s ? ? Pro Cinema - Pro Audio - Pro & Consumer AV Equipment & Supplies Brian Vita President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Dec 5 16:35:01 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 16:35:01 -0500 Subject: You Say "Skizzum", I Say "Sizz-um"... References: <8CD62D4C60E577B-1580-15E0A@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I have no reception reports on WQOM other than from here in Arlington Heights, where there is no perceptable change in the signal from when it was WBIX and transmitted by day from 100 Mt Wayte Ave. Back then, the AGC in my radios totally papered over any change in signal strength between CH (22 kW) and D (40 kW). The combination of the soil conductivity (poorer in Ashland than in Framingham--apparently) and the slightly greater distance from Ashland to Arlington Heights than from Framingham to Arlington Heights seems to paper over the slightly greater daytime power (50 kW vs 40 kW). Anyhow, reception of WQOM is fine here by day and mostly not bad at night. Although I don't know this to be the case, I could believe that WQOM's engineers have tweaked the carrier frequency ever so slightly to minimize the effect of the sub-audible heterodyne with KYW. If that is what was done, it has mitigated a major source of bothersome nighttime interference. My understanding is that WBZ welcomed 1060's move from relatively densely populated downtown Framingham to rather sparsely populated Ashland. (The area immediately east of the 890/1060 site, where both stations' signals are very strong--especially during the daytime--is almost unpopulated.) When WBIX was in Framingham, enough neighbors complained about interference to WBZ to be a concern to WBZ's engineering staff. Now, there are many fewer neighbors who are likely to experience such problems. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 3:47 PM Subject: Re: You Say "Skizzum", I Say "Sizz-um"... Now that it appears likely that at any time between sunrise and sunset (7:00 am thru 4:15 in December), WQOM will be at maximum power, has anybody out there who lives in Boston, Brookline, Cambridge or Somerville, or drives around those communities during those hours, tried to tune in to WQOM? (Or, Medford, home of WILD-AM, although this station is weaker than WBZ-AM and no longer emits IBOC hash). From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Dec 6 09:53:40 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:53:40 -0500 Subject: Lapierre on the loose Message-ID: <19708.63732.570931.315676@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Listened a bit to Gary Lapierre filling in on the 'BZ morning news today; good to know he's still got it after two years on the beach. He sounds like he's having a blast (although I suspect he didn't sound quite so exuberant at 3 AM this morning). I wonder if he's here or still in St. Augustine? -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Dec 6 11:13:32 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:13:32 -0500 Subject: Lapierre on the loose References: <19708.63732.570931.315676@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <144F89B195D3425E86924A0ADF74F33A@SatU205S5044> > I wonder if he's here or still in St. Augustine? > > -GAWollman I posted the same question elsewhere several days ago. I've seen no responses. If you listen to Steve LeVeille at 4:30 tomorrow morning, you might find out--or not. LeVeille chats briefly with the 5:00AM news anchor. He did it with Ed Walsh; he did it with whomever filled in for Walsh when Walsh was on vacation; I think he did it with LaPierre back when LaPierre was the AM-drive news anchor. And that means he went through the motions even when LaPierre was working from the studio in his home in Florida. The fact that LaPierre is 1700 miles away wouldn't stop LeVeille from pretending to look through the control room window and through the control room into the news studio and telling the listeners that he is waving at Gary LaPierre who will be in to chat with him in five minutes. This is much more easily accomplished on radio than on TV, where the split screen is a pretty good give-away (as on PBS's Nightly Business Report: Suzie Gharib is in New York; her co-anchor, Tom Hudson, is in Miami; they appear in separate panels). I suppose that ChromaKey (or a more modern version) might even disguise that, but I'm not aware of any program that does it. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From ecps92@earthlink.net Mon Dec 6 12:02:20 2010 From: ecps92@earthlink.net (ecps92@earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 17:02:20 +0000 Subject: Lapierre on the loose In-Reply-To: <144F89B195D3425E86924A0ADF74F33A@SatU205S5044> References: <19708.63732.570931.315676@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><144F89B195D3425E86924A0ADF74F33A@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <717899357-1291654947-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-108031237-@bda749.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> They chatted this AM and from the comments (brrr cold etc) it did sound as he was back here for the week. Bill Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -----Original Message----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" Sender: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:13:32 To: Garrett Wollman; Reply-To: "Dan.Strassberg" Subject: Re: Lapierre on the loose > I wonder if he's here or still in St. Augustine? > > -GAWollman I posted the same question elsewhere several days ago. I've seen no responses. If you listen to Steve LeVeille at 4:30 tomorrow morning, you might find out--or not. LeVeille chats briefly with the 5:00AM news anchor. He did it with Ed Walsh; he did it with whomever filled in for Walsh when Walsh was on vacation; I think he did it with LaPierre back when LaPierre was the AM-drive news anchor. And that means he went through the motions even when LaPierre was working from the studio in his home in Florida. The fact that LaPierre is 1700 miles away wouldn't stop LeVeille from pretending to look through the control room window and through the control room into the news studio and telling the listeners that he is waving at Gary LaPierre who will be in to chat with him in five minutes. This is much more easily accomplished on radio than on TV, where the split screen is a pretty good give-away (as on PBS's Nightly Business Report: Suzie Gharib is in New York; her co-anchor, Tom Hudson, is in Miami; they appear in separate panels). I suppose that ChromaKey (or a more modern version) might even disguise that, but I'm not aware of any program that does it. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From scott@fybush.com Mon Dec 6 12:12:08 2010 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:12:08 -0500 Subject: Lapierre on the loose In-Reply-To: <19708.63732.570931.315676@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <19708.63732.570931.315676@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4CFD1968.20005@fybush.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > Listened a bit to Gary Lapierre filling in on the 'BZ morning news > today; good to know he's still got it after two years on the beach. > He sounds like he's having a blast (although I suspect he didn't sound > quite so exuberant at 3 AM this morning). And of course the $!%^$!&$ WBZ stream player shuts itself down after some period of inactivity, so while I set up my computer to record the stream this morning, I ended up with two hours of silence. I'll have to try again off good ol' skywave tomorrow morning... s From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Dec 6 18:07:04 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:07:04 -0500 Subject: Lapierre on the loose In-Reply-To: <19708.63732.570931.315676@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <19708.63732.570931.315676@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <201012062345.oB6NjdT2068232@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> And according to Peter Casey, he IS in Boston this week. http://boston.cbslocal.com/2010/12/06/a-cold-but-comforting-day-in-boston-radio/ From friedbagels@gmail.com Tue Dec 7 16:16:35 2010 From: friedbagels@gmail.com (Aaron Read) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 16:16:35 -0500 Subject: WMFO tour Message-ID: WOW! WMFO got an Axia?!?!? That's a major step up from that POS Arrakis board that was there during my yearlong tour of duty in 2000. Damn thing picked up a ton of RFI from the 91.5 transmitter on top of Ballou Hall. Jeez. WMFO has an Axia, so does WZLY. WBRS got a total overhaul in 2002. Is it still "college radio" if your studio isn't a smelly dump with bad wiring and old equipment? ;-) -- -- ----------------------------------------- Aaron Read friedbagels@gmail.com General Manager WHWS 105.7FM (315) 781-3811 From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Wed Dec 8 10:32:02 2010 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 10:32:02 -0500 Subject: Charlie Kravits To Head WBUR Message-ID: Great job for a great guy. Go Charlie! http://bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1301618&position=1 From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Dec 8 11:16:56 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:16:56 -0500 Subject: Charlie Kravits To Head WBUR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201012081656.oB8GuCCg036768@tsornin.bostonradio.org> At 10:32 AM 12/8/2010, Ted Larsen wrote: >Great job for a great guy. Go Charlie! > >http://bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1301618&position=1 And I got quoted in the Globe version of the story, saying exactly that! He is a good choice for WBUR, I believe. From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 8 12:17:22 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 12:17:22 -0500 Subject: Charlie Kravits To Head WBUR References: <201012081656.oB8GuCCg036768@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: Given the nature of the staff at any public radio station, it sounds like the toughest job in all of radio. Ruling with an iron hand (fist) Jane Christo style would seem to be the only way, but doing it without antagonizing the staff or committing errors like those that Christo made seems like an almost impossible challenge. I hope he can pull it off. At least he doesn't have Chris Lydon to contend with. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Ted Larsen" ; Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Charlie Kravits To Head WBUR > At 10:32 AM 12/8/2010, Ted Larsen wrote: >>Great job for a great guy. Go Charlie! >> >>http://bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1301618&position=1 > > And I got quoted in the Globe version of the story, saying exactly > that! He is a good choice for WBUR, I believe. > > From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Dec 8 14:12:32 2010 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 14:12:32 -0500 Subject: Not coming down for breakfast...... Message-ID: <105501cb970b$df060820$9d121860$@com> Long time morning talk co-host Pat McCarthy from WCAP in Lowell (pre-2006) passed away this morning. From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Dec 8 13:47:11 2010 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:47:11 -0500 Subject: WBZ News Boom Message-ID: <103d01cb9708$545a7ce0$fd0f76a0$@com> Sometime back someone was asking if anyone had the old WBZ "news boom" that they used in the late 70's and early 80s...well it has been found - Dave Maynard and Bob Raliegh's producer back in 79 - 81 has a copy - right off the master - both the original and the "new & improved" version that came out in 82. Contact me direct. There is also have a copy of the TM "Spirit of New England" master. From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Wed Dec 8 16:56:30 2010 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:56:30 -0500 Subject: Charlie Kravits To Head WBUR References: <201012081656.oB8GuCCg036768@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: Hi Dan: Hopefully he can accomplish great things with a "honey vs. vinegar" management approach. It's worked well for a lot of corporate leaders and something radio GM's often ignore. Charlie is savvy enough to know this. TL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "Ted Larsen" ; ; "Donna Halper" Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Charlie Kravits To Head WBUR > Given the nature of the staff at any public radio station, it sounds > like the toughest job in all of radio. Ruling with an iron hand (fist) > Jane Christo style would seem to be the only way, but doing it without > antagonizing the staff or committing errors like those that Christo > made seems like an almost impossible challenge. I hope he can pull it > off. At least he doesn't have Chris Lydon to contend with. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Halper" > To: "Ted Larsen" ; > > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:16 AM > Subject: Re: Charlie Kravits To Head WBUR > > >> At 10:32 AM 12/8/2010, Ted Larsen wrote: >>>Great job for a great guy. Go Charlie! >>> >>>http://bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1301618&position=1 >> >> And I got quoted in the Globe version of the story, saying exactly >> that! He is a good choice for WBUR, I believe. >> >> > From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Dec 8 20:26:53 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 20:26:53 -0500 Subject: 30 years ago tonight Message-ID: The murder of John Lennon was one of the biggest news stories of our lives. ESPN put this together including unaired booth chatter between Howard Cosell and Frank Gifford. Cosell did not want to air it and Gifford said "we have to." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-F3MJjcRkc ABC only had the story by accident as a WABC-TV staffer was in the ER being treated when Lennon was brought in. I can not fathom what the tension in the truck in Miami must have been like. From paul@derrynh.net Wed Dec 8 21:45:11 2010 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 21:45:11 -0500 Subject: 30 years ago tonight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6CD775CBE29842AF89B530FD4492B5E3@PaulPC> As a small aside...I had forgotten that the Patriots were playing in that Monday Night Game.....(I know it's a loss because it was pre 1985 and it was in Miami) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:26 PM Subject: 30 years ago tonight > The murder of John Lennon was one of the biggest news stories of our > lives. > > ESPN put this together including unaired booth chatter between Howard > Cosell > and Frank Gifford. Cosell did not want to air it and Gifford said "we have > to." > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-F3MJjcRkc > > ABC only had the story by accident as a WABC-TV staffer was in the ER > being > treated when Lennon was brought in. > > I can not fathom what the tension in the truck in Miami must have been > like. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Dec 11 13:10:54 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 13:10:54 -0500 Subject: WEIM call letter change In-Reply-To: <4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com> References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com> Message-ID: <201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Dan Kennedy asked me about the nice article Scott & I were in. His question was "Why is WBUR's share more than 3 times that of WGBH, yet its lead in total listeners is less than double?" Hot theories anyone? From marklaurence@mac.com Sat Dec 11 14:03:57 2010 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 19:03:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: WEIM call letter change In-Reply-To: <201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: On Dec 11, 2010, at 01:10 PM, Donna Halper wrote: Dan Kennedy asked me about the nice article Scott & I were in. His question was "Why is WBUR's share more than 3 times that of WGBH, yet its lead in total listeners is less than double?" Hot theories anyone? This suggests that WGBH has much higher time-spent-listening from a smaller cume audience. Why? It's possible that the WGBH listeners like their station's programming better and listen longer. But I think it's because WBUR has a much stronger image as the NPR news and information station, and attracts far more casual button-pushers who don't tend to listen as long. Mark From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sat Dec 11 14:43:41 2010 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 14:43:41 -0500 Subject: WEIM call letter change References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com> <201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: <766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035> Let me throw in my thoughts. As we know there are2 elements to a ratings share....cumulative listeners....and the Time SPent listening. I don't claim to be an expert...but my archair analysis would be that WBUR has a largers TSL....(or whatever they call it now...AWTL?). WBUR is a station that flows from one program to the next, with a local hosts bridging elements....leaving one with little reason to tune away. WGBH is a little more disjointed. Where WBUR runs Morning Edition from 5AM to 9AM....GBH is running a shorter version of Morning Edition to make room for the BBC Newhour, The Takeaway, and a repeat of The Takeaway. (BTW....Morning Edition and ATC are BGH's highest rated programs, you would think they would maximize it.) Middays on WGBH looks promising with their local talk blocks, but they have to get rid of the Diane Rehm show if the want to get more people in the door. She has a much too polarizing style without getting into medical issues. She is bright and articulate, but..... Afternoons GBH runs the very borrrrrring "The World" a real tune out right before All Things Considered. Then they RERUN The World at 6PM....which would be a time I would think people are looking for more local/national news.....and less, say, about a coup in Georgia. (The World is one of their lowest rted hours, and yet they REPEAT it!) And then there's GBH's Jazz in the Evening. Nothing against Jazz, but WBUR's repeats of On Point in the evening do very well....and again contribute the overall flow of WBUR. I think WGBH has to work out some more things on their schedule, to make it less choppy and give them some consistancy and a longer TIme Spent Listening. Maximize their strong points....and do away with the weak links. WBUR has a flow to it. I know what to expect WHENEVER I tune into WBUR. I am given very little reason to tune away. With WGBH, I am never quite sure what I am going to get when I tune in. So, thats me spouting. ;-) I think the answer to your question is TSL (Time Spent Listening). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Scott Fybush" Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: WEIM call letter change > Dan Kennedy asked me about the nice article Scott & I were in. His > question was "Why is WBUR's share more than 3 times that of WGBH, yet its > lead in total listeners is less than double?" Hot theories anyone? > From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Dec 11 15:31:53 2010 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 15:31:53 -0500 Subject: WEIM call letter change In-Reply-To: <201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org> References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com> <201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: <000301cb9972$773c8ed0$65b5ac70$@com> My theory is that this could be because WGBH's signal covers a larger area. > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On > Behalf Of Donna Halper > Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:11 PM > To: Scott Fybush > Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: WEIM call letter change > > Dan Kennedy asked me about the nice article Scott & I were in. His > question was "Why is WBUR's share more than 3 times that of WGBH, yet > its lead in total listeners is less than double?" Hot theories anyone? From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Dec 11 17:02:42 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:02:42 -0500 Subject: 'GBH vs 'BUR--Was: Re: WEIM call letter change (Was the thread EVER about WEIM?) References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com><201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org> <766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035> Message-ID: I could be confused but, I know that 'BUR runs the Beeb from 9:00 to 10:00AM. That's when 'GBH airs the Takeaway for the second time. I haven't spent enough time listening to know for sure whether this is a repeat of the program that airs from 6:00 to 7:00AM, but I think it isn't. WNYC AM now airs four hours of the Takeaway every morning and I doubt that they run the same hour four times; I suspect they run two hours twice. This suggests that there are two spearate hours available every day and WGBH's 9:00 hour would not be a repeat. Also, when does 'GBH air the BBC in the mornings? 5:00 to 6:00? That would seem to be the only slot available, but I don't think I've heard the BBC on 89.7 at that hour. Doesn't jazz end at 6:00AM--not 5:00AM? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" To: "Donna Halper" ; "B-R-I" ; Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 2:43 PM Subject: Re: WEIM call letter change > WGBH is a little more disjointed. Where WBUR runs Morning Edition > from 5AM to 9AM....GBH is running a shorter version of Morning > Edition to make room for the BBC Newhour, The Takeaway, and a repeat > of The Takeaway. From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Dec 11 17:40:33 2010 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:40:33 -0500 Subject: 'GBH vs 'BUR--Was: Re: WEIM call letter change (Was the thread EVER about WEIM?) In-Reply-To: References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com> <201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org> <766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035> Message-ID: <000501cb9984$6d015dd0$47041970$@com> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On > Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg > Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 5:03 PM > To: Don; Donna Halper; B-R-I; Scott Fybush > Subject: Re: 'GBH vs 'BUR--Was: Re: WEIM call letter change (Was the > thread EVER about WEIM?) > > I could be confused but, I know that 'BUR runs the Beeb from 9:00 to > 10:00AM. That's when 'GBH airs the Takeaway for the second time. I > haven't spent enough time listening to know for sure whether this is a > repeat of the program that airs from 6:00 to 7:00AM, but I think it > isn't. WNYC AM now airs four hours of the Takeaway every morning and I > doubt that they run the same hour four times; I suspect they run two > hours twice. This suggests that there are two spearate hours available > every day and WGBH's 9:00 hour would not be a repeat. Also, when does > 'GBH air the BBC in the mornings? 5:00 to 6:00? That would seem to be > the only slot available, but I don't think I've heard the BBC on 89.7 > at that hour. Doesn't jazz end at 6:00AM--not 5:00AM? I'm pretty certain they have a schedule grid on their website. From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Dec 12 06:27:50 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 03:27:50 -0800 Subject: Globe looks at sports radio war Message-ID: The Sunday Globe looks at the 15 month battle between WEEI and WBZ-FM which has become a dogfight, http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/articles/2010/12/12/talking_a_good_game/?p1=Upbox_links The Globe looks at Entercom combining Boston and Providence ratings and writes about Pete Sheppard pointing out that employee bonuses could have been met if the ratings were combined. What is interesting to me is that 98.5 has expanded the number of people listening to sports radio as WEEI's numbers are still decent. From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Dec 12 12:57:26 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 12:57:26 -0500 Subject: The World In-Reply-To: <766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035> References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com> <201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org> <766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035> Message-ID: <19717.3334.458293.903034@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Afternoons GBH runs the very borrrrrring "The World" a real tune out right > before All Things Considered. Then they RERUN The World at 6PM....which > would be a time I would think people are looking for more local/national > news.....and less, say, about a coup in Georgia. (The World is one of their > lowest rted hours, and yet they REPEAT it!) They *produce* it; why wouldn't they give it a second run? It's already paid for. (I'm still at work at 6 PM so I'm not looking for any sort of news at that hour. You'll find me listening to 'BZ from 7:20 to 7:40 to see which local business leader Anthony will ask softball questions of.) -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Dec 12 14:47:22 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:47:22 -0500 Subject: Bob Edwards' Weekend audio tour of WSM (AM) transmitter site Message-ID: It was sort of like a visit to Tower Site of the Week minus the photos and minus Scott. Bob Edwards' Weekend, which, I gather, originates at Sirius Satellite Radio and is syndicated to public radio stations (locally, WGBH (FM) Sundays 10AM-noon) by either PRI or American Public Media (not sure which), today featured during its second hour a one-hour audio tour of the WSM (AM) 650 transmitter site near Nashville. Earlier this year, massive flooding (10' of water) forced WSM from its studios and offices at the Opryland Hotel complex in Nashville. The station moved lock, stock, and barrel to its Tx site, which was also flooded but not not deeply enough to take the station off the air. Apparently, WSM returned to its studios and offices at Opryland only within the past few days. The program, which was recorded before that return, was an audio tour of the transmitter building, the ATU building, and the base insulator, with descriptions of the insulator and what Edwards and WSM's Chief Engineer saw when they looked up at the 808' Blaw-Knox diamond tower from ground level. Included in the audio was the sound of the program WSM was airing at the time of the recording as captured by Edwards' microphone from the coils in the ATU network (no louspeaker necessary). Real radio for the AM geek! Too bad that Sirius appears to have this podcast locked up behind a firewall. I gather one can access it only by subscribing to Sirius. Otherwise, I was going to suggest to Scott that he add a link to it at the Tower Site of the Week Archives. I guess that isn't possible, though. Scott's own pictorial visit to WSM is at: http://www.fybush.com/site-020424.html ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From Cdsull502@aol.com Sun Dec 12 16:06:39 2010 From: Cdsull502@aol.com (Cdsull502@aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:06:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Bob Edwards Weekend--WSM Message-ID: <42bd1.4490f44b.3a36935f@aol.com> Keep an eye on the Bob Edwards Weekend Web site. They will release a pod cast of the show within a few days. Chris Sullivan CdSull502@aol.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sun Dec 12 18:06:13 2010 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 18:06:13 -0500 Subject: The World References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com><201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org><766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035> <19717.3334.458293.903034@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <89B9BECCAECF4328A3A775EAD26A5860@s20035> > They *produce* it; why wouldn't they give it a second run? It's > already paid for. Because it doesn't get them any listeners (and donations) when they run it once....why run it again? Why double down on something that isn't giving you much back? Wouldn't it make more sense to repeat a program that does well for them? Right now their highest rated hours are All Things Considered and Morning Edition...both of which they run for a minimal amount of time. Is the goal to find the cheapest programming they can run....or to run something that will garver some audience. I know they produce it (in association with the BBC), so they are tied to it somehow...but it doesn't look like it's helping them much. Also, I don't know that it's succesful in getting cleared at other non-comm outlets around the country. I'm not sure what the point of this program is.....is it simply status to produce a program with the BBC? From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Dec 12 22:13:13 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:13:13 -0500 Subject: The World In-Reply-To: <89B9BECCAECF4328A3A775EAD26A5860@s20035> References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com> <201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org> <766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035> <19717.3334.458293.903034@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <89B9BECCAECF4328A3A775EAD26A5860@s20035> Message-ID: <19717.36681.56989.30254@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Also, I don't know that it's succesful in getting cleared at other non-comm > outlets around the country. You could just check their station listings. It appears that they are carried on the statewide public-radio networks in Alaska, Arizona, Idaho, Maine, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Vermont, and West Virginia, plus major urban markets in California, New York, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, and Washington. They claim 250 stations carry it daily. > I'm not sure what the point of this program is.....is it simply status to > produce a program with the BBC? Given the amount of money they spent to build a special newsroom and studios for it, I assume it comes with a substantial revenue stream. It's difficult for an outsider to tease out the general PRI underwriting from the specific underwriting commitments to this program. -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Dec 12 22:14:11 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:14:11 -0500 Subject: The World In-Reply-To: <89B9BECCAECF4328A3A775EAD26A5860@s20035> References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com> <201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org> <766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035> <19717.3334.458293.903034@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <89B9BECCAECF4328A3A775EAD26A5860@s20035> Message-ID: <19717.36739.629345.454429@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: >> They *produce* it; why wouldn't they give it a second run? It's >> already paid for. > Because it doesn't get them any listeners (and donations) when they run it > once And you know this how, exactly? Do you work for them? Are you privy to their fundraising records? -GAWollman From wilkinsmg@hotmail.com Sun Dec 12 22:21:06 2010 From: wilkinsmg@hotmail.com (Michael Wilkins) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:21:06 -0500 Subject: The World In-Reply-To: <19717.36739.629345.454429@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, <4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com>, <201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org>, <766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035>, <19717.3334.458293.903034@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <89B9BECCAECF4328A3A775EAD26A5860@s20035>, <19717.36739.629345.454429@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: Geez, I kinda like the program. ;) Mike http://www.theworld.org/team/mike-wilkins/ From dave@skywaves.net Sun Dec 12 22:32:42 2010 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:32:42 -0500 Subject: The World In-Reply-To: <19717.36739.629345.454429@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com><201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org><766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035><19717.3334.458293.903034@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><89B9BECCAECF4328A3A775EAD26A5860@s20035> <19717.36739.629345.454429@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <943FF9011E714F07ACF81932F9CBC74F@dave> >From http://www.theworld.org/stations/ "PRI's The World is a one-hour, weekday radio news magazine offering a mix of news, features, interviews, and music from around the globe. Launched in 1996, PRI's The World, a co-production of WGBH/Boston, PRI, and the BBC World Service, airs weekdays over 300 stations across the United States and Canada." That would seem to nail down WGBH's connection. I guess I'm in the minority, but I happen to like the program. -d -------------------------------------------------- From: "Garrett Wollman" Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 10:14 PM To: "Don" Cc: Subject: Re: The World > > < > said: > >>> They *produce* it; why wouldn't they give it a second run? It's >>> already paid for. > >> Because it doesn't get them any listeners (and donations) when they run >> it >> once > > And you know this how, exactly? Do you work for them? Are you privy > to their fundraising records? > > -GAWollman > > From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Dec 13 01:07:38 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 01:07:38 -0500 Subject: The World In-Reply-To: <943FF9011E714F07ACF81932F9CBC74F@dave> References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com> <201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org> <766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035> <19717.3334.458293.903034@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <89B9BECCAECF4328A3A775EAD26A5860@s20035> <19717.36739.629345.454429@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <943FF9011E714F07ACF81932F9CBC74F@dave> Message-ID: <19717.47146.460889.203670@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I guess I'm in the minority, but I happen to like the program. I have a suspicion that the people who like "The World" also like other BBC World Service news program(me)s, and the people who say that "The World" is B-O-R-I-N-G say the same thing about "Newshour", "The World Today", "World Briefing", and other BBC World Service news program(me)s. Unfortunately, the World Service no longer carries any of the BBC's domestic entertainment program(me)s. For that, you have to use a Flash-encrusted browser kluge called "iPlayer" to listen to the national spoken-word service, Radio 4. -GAWollman From rac@gabrielmass.com Mon Dec 13 00:46:24 2010 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:46:24 -0500 Subject: The World In-Reply-To: References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, <4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com>, <201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org>, <766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035>, <19717.3334.458293.903034@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <89B9BECCAECF4328A3A775EAD26A5860@s20035>, <19717.36739.629345.454429@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4D05B330.109@server4.gabrielmass.com> I should have known "Monitor Radio" was on Mike's resume. That's what the sound of "The World" reminds me of. --RC On 12/12/2010 10:21 PM, Michael Wilkins wrote: > > Geez, I kinda like the program. > > ;) > > Mike > > http://www.theworld.org/team/mike-wilkins/ > > From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Dec 13 13:06:09 2010 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:06:09 -0500 Subject: The World References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com><201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org><766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035><19717.3334.458293.903034@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><89B9BECCAECF4328A3A775EAD26A5860@s20035> <19717.36739.629345.454429@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: >>> They *produce* it; why wouldn't they give it a second run? It's >>> already paid for. > >> Because it doesn't get them any listeners (and donations) when they run >> it >> once > > And you know this how, exactly? Do you work for them? Are you privy > to their fundraising records? No, looking at hour-by-hours...it's one of their lowest rated hours. Typically during fundraising, the likely scenario is, if less people are listening, less funds get raised.... From marklaurence@mac.com Mon Dec 13 14:33:13 2010 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:33:13 -0500 Subject: The World In-Reply-To: References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com> <201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org> <766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035> <19717.3334.458293.903034@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <89B9BECCAECF4328A3A775EAD26A5860@s20035> <19717.36739.629345.454429@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4D0674F9.9040308@mac.com> On 12/13/2010 1:06 PM, Don wrote: > [about "The World" ratings on WGBH] > > No, looking at hour-by-hours...it's one of their lowest rated hours. > > Typically during fundraising, the likely scenario is, if less people > are listening, less funds get raised.... I just looked at the November hour-by-hours for WGBH. I looked at 6+ numbers to get the largest sample for the hour-by-hour breakdown. The numbers for The World, from 3-4 PM and from 6-7 PM, have exactly the same share as 'GBH's average share for 6A-7P M-F. So, the show is not underperforming the rest of the day at all. The World's 3PM hour has 26% more listeners than its lead-in show, Fresh Air, at 2 PM. Its audience share at 6 PM is only 0.1 less than All Things Considered at 5 PM. Every hour between 9 AM and 2 PM has a far fewer listeners than either hour of The World. If you prefer to look at 25-54 numbers, they follow the same pattern. The World exceeds the 'GBH share for the entire day and builds solidly on midday numbers. It looks like the latest Arbitron numbers don't support your theory. Mark From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Dec 14 10:19:23 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 10:19:23 -0500 Subject: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds Message-ID: We could possibly see this happen on New Year's Eve... Viewers on Ch 5 and 9 watching the ball drop in Times Sq and at Midnight POOF The Herald has the quotes http://www.bostonherald.com/business/media/view/20101214dwts_last_dance_with_directv/srvc=home&position=also From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Tue Dec 14 14:15:52 2010 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:15:52 -0500 Subject: The World References: <255972.72662.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><4CD08C5A.6040008@fybush.com><201012111846.oBBIkouL065974@tsornin.bostonradio.org><766EE47EF97544B48F969097EFCC2336@s20035><19717.3334.458293.903034@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><89B9BECCAECF4328A3A775EAD26A5860@s20035><19717.36739.629345.454429@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><943FF9011E714F07ACF81932F9CBC74F@dave> <19717.47146.460889.203670@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: > ...the people who say that > "The World" is B-O-R-I-N-G say the same thing about "Newshour", "The > World Today", "World Briefing", and other BBC World Service news > program(me)s. Not me. The World Today, World Briefing and Newhour are all much better produced...and have a more "I'm curious about" approach. They report world news in a way that is interesting, and interview people with questions that are the same that I would want to know the answers to. The World is much drier....and almost dour sounding. From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Wed Dec 15 13:40:01 2010 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:40:01 -0500 Subject: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds References: Message-ID: ABC is doing the same thing "bullying act" here in North Carolina, but their target is Time-Warner Cable. I know what going on, but feel sorry for the "clueless" viewers who panic. It's not their fault they don't know the ins and out of this greedy business. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "bri" Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds > We could possibly see this happen on New Year's Eve... > > Viewers on Ch 5 and 9 watching the ball drop in Times Sq and at Midnight > POOF > > The Herald has the quotes > > > http://www.bostonherald.com/business/media/view/20101214dwts_last_dance_with_directv/srvc=home&position=also > > From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Wed Dec 15 13:40:01 2010 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:40:01 -0500 Subject: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds References: Message-ID: ABC is doing the same thing "bullying act" here in North Carolina, but their target is Time-Warner Cable. I know what going on, but feel sorry for the "clueless" viewers who panic. It's not their fault they don't know the ins and out of this greedy business. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "bri" Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds > We could possibly see this happen on New Year's Eve... > > Viewers on Ch 5 and 9 watching the ball drop in Times Sq and at Midnight > POOF > > The Herald has the quotes > > > http://www.bostonherald.com/business/media/view/20101214dwts_last_dance_with_directv/srvc=home&position=also > > From bob.bosra@demattia.net Wed Dec 15 14:25:07 2010 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 14:25:07 -0500 Subject: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Ted Larsen wrote: > ABC is doing the same thing "bullying act" here in North Carolina, but > their target is Time-Warner Cable. WCVB is not an ABC O&O, it's owned by Hearst-Argyle. The only H-A station in NC is WXII, which is an NBC affliate. WTVD is an ABC O&O in Raleigh-Durham. This looks like two separate local 'disputes'. This situation is not uncommon. Fox Sports and some other Fox-owner cable channels were blacked out on Dish Network this past October for similar reasons. -Bob From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Wed Dec 15 16:17:58 2010 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:17:58 -0500 Subject: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds References: Message-ID: Well, I consider it "high stakes negotiation" from a business standpoint, but "bullying" the viewers into making panic calls to their TV providers. Keep the negotiations in the conference room. I think involving the customers is sleazy and a really cheap move. I talked with a Time-Warner exec.here who says their customer service lines are clogged with abusive viewer calls. All the rep. can say," I'm sorry but it's out of my hands." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" To: "Ted Larsen" ; ; "Kevin Vahey" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:02 PM Subject: Re: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds > > >> ABC is doing the same thing "bullying act" here in North Carolina... > > Is it really "bullying"...or just a high stakes negotiation? From mward@iname.com Wed Dec 15 15:38:27 2010 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 15:38:27 -0500 Subject: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Ted Larsen wrote: > ABC is doing the same thing "bullying act" here in North Carolina, but their > target is Time-Warner Cable. I know what going on, but feel sorry for the > "clueless" viewers who panic. It's not their fault they don't know the ins > and out of this greedy business. In fact, it's not generally the network involved, outside of the O&O stations (like WABC/NYC recently). ABC does own its station in Raleigh, WTVD/11, but I'm pretty sure this is Sinclair's ABC affiliate in the Greensboro/Winston-Salem market, WXLV/45. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Wed Dec 15 16:02:22 2010 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:02:22 -0500 Subject: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds References: Message-ID: > ABC is doing the same thing "bullying act" here in North Carolina... Is it really "bullying"...or just a high stakes negotiation? From francini@mac.com Wed Dec 15 17:11:30 2010 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:11:30 -0500 Subject: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2071AD2A-2FEA-4ECA-9AFD-1808583BEC51@mac.com> Not quite as fierce as George Lucas' idea of "aggressive negotiations", i.e., with a blaster (from Star Wars Ep. 2). These things ALWAYS get settled, eventually. Telling the viewers about it is simply adding a whole bunch of heat (and not much light) to the situation. john On 15 Dec 2010, at 16:02, Don wrote: > > >> ABC is doing the same thing "bullying act" here in North Carolina... > > Is it really "bullying"...or just a high stakes negotiation? From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Dec 15 16:29:57 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:29:57 -0500 Subject: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ABC and Hearst are partners in ESPN (Hearst 20%) This is causing a major panic in Greenville, SC where many have DirecTV and Hearst owns Channel 4. Charter Cable is despised there From marklaurence@mac.com Wed Dec 15 18:07:08 2010 From: marklaurence@mac.com (marklaurence@mac.com) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 18:07:08 -0500 Subject: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds In-Reply-To: <2071AD2A-2FEA-4ECA-9AFD-1808583BEC51@mac.com> References: <2071AD2A-2FEA-4ECA-9AFD-1808583BEC51@mac.com> Message-ID: On Dec 15, 2010, at 5:11 PM, John Francini wrote: > These things ALWAYS get settled, eventually. Telling the viewers > about it is simply adding a whole bunch of heat (and not much light) > to the situation. I don't agree. These negotiations are an attempt to grab cash from cable TV subscribers who have been getting these over-the-air TV stations for free since they went on the air. The stations owe their existence to their use of the public airwaves. If I were calling my cable company about this, I'd be telling them to stand up to the TV stations and don't pay a cent. Mark From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Dec 15 20:41:01 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:41:01 -0500 Subject: New law authorizing FCC regulation of advertising loudness Message-ID: <19721.28205.941882.690490@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> The White House press office announced today that President Obama had signed into law "S. 2847, the 'Commercial Advertisement Loudness Mitigation or the 'CALM Act,' which requires the Federal Communications Commission to prescribe a regulation limiting the volume of audio on commercials transmitted by television broadcast stations, cable operators, and other multichannel video programming distributors." -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 15 21:05:57 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:05:57 -0500 Subject: New law authorizing FCC regulation of advertising loudness References: <19721.28205.941882.690490@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <55E151AE476040C786120768543244F8@SatU205S5044> For what seem like decades and decades, the advertisers, agencies, and broadcasters have maintained that whatever it is that makes a commercial sound louder than noncommercial program content, the perception is subjective and unmeasurable. And they have prevailed against regulation of loudness of commercials for all that time. Now that there is legislation requiring that commercials not seem louder than other content to viewers/listeners, do you think the advertisers, agencies, and broadcasters are going to drop their argument? I don't. This might be the first legislation that passed in the Democratically controlled Congress to be repealed by the new (at least half) Republican-controlled Congress. I have never understood why objective measurements of loudness are so difficult when a whole industry of companies such as Orban has grown up designing, manufacturing, and marketing equiment to control loudness. Of course, Mr Orban and his competitors, who don't want to anger the companies that buy their equipment, will agree that standards can't be created, but like obscenity, loud commercials can be discerned by those who hear them. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 8:41 PM Subject: New law authorizing FCC regulation of advertising loudness > The White House press office announced today that President Obama > had > signed into law "S. 2847, the 'Commercial Advertisement Loudness > Mitigation or the 'CALM Act,' which requires the Federal > Communications Commission to prescribe a regulation limiting the > volume of audio on commercials transmitted by television broadcast > stations, cable operators, and other multichannel video programming > distributors." > > -GAWollman > From billohno@gmail.com Wed Dec 15 21:44:27 2010 From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:44:27 -0500 Subject: New law authorizing FCC regulation of advertising loudness In-Reply-To: <19721.28205.941882.690490@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <19721.28205.941882.690490@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4D097D0B.7070702@gmail.com> On 12/15/2010 8:41 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > to prescribe a regulation limiting the > volume of audio on commercials transmitted by television broadcast > stations, cable operators, and other multichannel video programming > distributors." I was under the impression that what people experienced during commercials was simply increased density of audio or increased average modulation. Is there actual over-modulation that is being addressed? That doesn't sound illegal, just noisy. Really? This all sounds dumb, pun intended. Government. Bill O'Neill From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Dec 15 22:15:06 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:15:06 -0500 Subject: New law authorizing FCC regulation of advertising loudness In-Reply-To: <4D097D0B.7070702@gmail.com> References: <19721.28205.941882.690490@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4D097D0B.7070702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <19721.33850.548314.681162@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > On 12/15/2010 8:41 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> to prescribe a regulation limiting the >> volume of audio on commercials transmitted by television broadcast >> stations, cable operators, and other multichannel video programming >> distributors." > I was under the impression that what people experienced during > commercials was simply increased density of audio or increased average > modulation. Is there actual over-modulation that is being addressed? > That doesn't sound illegal, just noisy. Well, there's no modulation any more. Looking at the legislative history is often instructive. The bill passed the Senate by unanimous consent and then passed the House on a voice vote. It was sponsored by Sheldon Whitehouse, and cosponsored by Sens. Brown (OH), Johnson, McCaskill, Murray, Nelson, Rockefeller (chairman of the committee), and Schumer. According to the Senate report on the bill, it merely instructs the FCC to adopt by reference the ATSC recommendation on "Techniques for Establishing and Maintaining Audio Loudness for Digital Television", and authorizes hardship waivers for up to two years. (That's ATSC A/85 for those following along at work.) That's all it says -- the whole bill takes less than a page (or would if it were printed with normal margins instead of two inches on each side like the GPO does). You can read the text of ATSC A/85 at . -GAWollman From bob.bosra@demattia.net Wed Dec 15 23:00:58 2010 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 23:00:58 -0500 Subject: New law authorizing FCC regulation of advertising loudness In-Reply-To: <19721.33850.548314.681162@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <19721.28205.941882.690490@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4D097D0B.7070702@gmail.com> <19721.33850.548314.681162@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: >> to prescribe a regulation limiting the >> volume of audio on commercials transmitted by television broadcast >> stations, cable operators, and other multichannel video programming >> distributors." Sounds like a jobs bill for broadcast industry lawyers :-) From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Dec 16 03:55:28 2010 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 03:55:28 -0500 Subject: Herald: Felger gets heat over sex poll Message-ID: <8CD6B161F465D54-B44-B058@web-mmc-m06.sysops.aol.com> Hey that WBZ-FM, The Sports Hub, really has momentum now, getting great ratings, making some money, and they don't have juvenile talk like that AM station with a scratchy signal. No-siree, nothing wrong with 98.5 these days! Oh, other than the afternoon host joking about a "marry, fornicate, or kill" online game involving three female TV anchors, one of whom happens to be his wife. It's refreshing that this kind of stimulating sports talk radio can now be found on a powerful FM stereo station... http://bostonherald.com/jobfind/news/media/view/20101216hub_radio_host_blasted_over_sex_poll_felger_touts_wife_in_hot_anchor_matchup/srvc=home&position=also From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Thu Dec 16 11:15:00 2010 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 08:15:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Herald: Felger gets heat over sex poll In-Reply-To: <8CD6B161F465D54-B44-B058@web-mmc-m06.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <593103.35232.qm@web112120.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Bob Nelson wrote: > Hey that WBZ-FM, The Sports Hub, really has momentum now, > getting great ratings, making some money, and they don't > have juvenile talk like that AM station with a scratchy > signal. No-siree, > nothing wrong with 98.5 these days! > > Oh, other than the afternoon host joking about a "marry, > fornicate, or kill" online game involving three > female TV anchors, one of whom happens to be his wife. It's > refreshing that this kind of stimulating > sports talk radio can now be found on a powerful FM stereo > station... I don't get your point -- :). If it was a sports talk station and it wasn't juvenile, it'd be breaking format, wouldn't it? From billohno@gmail.com Thu Dec 16 14:45:54 2010 From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:45:54 -0500 Subject: New law authorizing FCC regulation of advertising loudness In-Reply-To: <19721.33850.548314.681162@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <19721.28205.941882.690490@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4D097D0B.7070702@gmail.com> <19721.33850.548314.681162@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4D0A6C72.9070401@gmail.com> On 12/15/2010 10:15 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > Well, there's no modulation any more. > So, how will this be enforced? Bill O'Neill From lglavin@mail.com Sun Dec 5 15:47:32 2010 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:47:32 -0500 Subject: You Say "Skizzum", I Say "Sizz-um"... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CD62D4C60E577B-1580-15E0A@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> >-----Original Message----- >From: Dan.Strassberg >To: Steve Snow ; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >Sent: Sat, Dec 4, 2010 5:27 pm >Subject: Re: You Say "Skizzum", I Say "Sizz-um"... >WQOM's day pattern is a three-tower modified cardioid with the >radiation maximum at 90 degrees true. IIRC, the maximum >inverse-distance field--and it's pretty broad--is ~5700 mV/m @1km, >which is equivalent to ~200 kW from the better-than half-wave towers. >If you compare 5700 mV/m with the Class B minimum of 281 mV/m/kW @ >1km, the equivalent power is about 400 kW ND. >Forget about not feeding the fishes! All that power really is >necessary to deliver a competitive signal to downtown Boston because, >according to measurements taken for WAMG and (then) WBIX, the soil >conductivity east of the site is a very dramtically low 0.1 mS/m, a >value that I thought never ocurred in nature except in granite >quarries and between the skyscrapers of places like midtown Manhattan. Now that it appears likely that at any time between sunrise and sunset (7:00 am thru 4:15 in December), WQOM will be at maximum power, has anybody out there who lives in Boston, Brookline, Cambridge or Somerville, or drives around those communities during those hours, tried to tune in to WQOM? (Or, Medford, home of WILD-AM, although this station is weaker than WBZ-AM and no longer emits IBOC hash). From zymrgist@comcast.net Thu Dec 9 13:51:59 2010 From: zymrgist@comcast.net (John) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 13:51:59 -0500 Subject: 30 Years Ago Tonight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D01254E.2070203@comcast.net> I was on the air at WCGY in Lawrence that night and reported first that John had been shot and later, that he died. The next morning, I flew to NYC and joined the mourners at the Dakota building. Did some reports from there and ran into David Peel (of 'I Like Marijuana' fame and an acquaintance of John's). I interviewed him. Still have the tapes from that day. John Lee > The murder of John Lennon was one of the biggest news stories of our > lives. > > ESPN put this together including unaired booth chatter between > Howard Cosell > and Frank Gifford. Cosell did not want to air it and Gifford said > "we have > to." From lglavin@mail.com Fri Dec 10 16:05:08 2010 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:05:08 -0500 Subject: Mitchell Savajian Obituary Message-ID: <8CD66C50F93234B-1E4C-21570@web-mmc-d06.sysops.aol.com> On Friday (12/10) the Lawrence Eagle Tribune ran an obituary for Mitchel J. Savajian. The obit indicated that he worked in the radio industry for over 40 years and was an account-executive at WCCM in Lawrence, Ma and Salem, NH from 1977 until 1997. I couldn't get the URL for his specific entry on the Tribune's website to work here, but you can go to: http://www.eagletribune.com/obituaries and find it among the December 10th obits. Oh...and another thing: if anyone was worried that I might have been affected by the lack of gas heat in Methuen; no, I have oil heat. From linc@reed-nickerson.com Wed Dec 15 18:27:00 2010 From: linc@reed-nickerson.com (Linc Reed-Nickerson) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 15:27:00 -0800 Subject: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds In-Reply-To: <26414779.6773.1292448566198.JavaMail.root@m05> References: <26414779.6773.1292448566198.JavaMail.root@m05> Message-ID: <008401cb9caf$93ba6fb0$bb2f4f10$@com> Oregon just announced a settlement with DirecTV due to deceptive business practices here and in other states. DirecTV to pay something like $14.7 million in penalties. In Easter Oregon DirecTV has dropped all off-the-air HDTV. Customer Service is telling folks it's a problem with their TV's, even suggesting returning them to the dealer! WE have had a number of irate folks call the ratio station to talk about issues with DirecTV.... what did they due, hire all the old TCI executives? Sure sounds like the good old days of TCI. Linc -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Ted Larsen Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:18 PM To: Don; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org; Kevin Vahey Subject: Re: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds Well, I consider it "high stakes negotiation" from a business standpoint, but "bullying" the viewers into making panic calls to their TV providers. Keep the negotiations in the conference room. I think involving the customers is sleazy and a really cheap move. I talked with a Time-Warner exec.here who says their customer service lines are clogged with abusive viewer calls. All the rep. can say," I'm sorry but it's out of my hands." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" To: "Ted Larsen" ; ; "Kevin Vahey" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:02 PM Subject: Re: DirecTV and WCVB (Hearst) at odds > > >> ABC is doing the same thing "bullying act" here in North Carolina... > > Is it really "bullying"...or just a high stakes negotiation? From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 16 01:07:02 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:07:02 -0500 Subject: New law authorizing FCC regulation of advertising loudness In-Reply-To: <55E151AE476040C786120768543244F8@SatU205S5044> References: <19721.28205.941882.690490@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <55E151AE476040C786120768543244F8@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4D09AC86.1050405@attorneyross.com> On 12/15/2010 9:05 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > This might be the first legislation that passed in the Democratically > controlled Congress to be repealed by the new (at least half) > Republican-controlled Congress. I wouldn't be too sure. Even if they can get that through Congress, I suspect the President might veto it. And it might not be that easy to get 60 votes in the Senate. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Dec 16 17:17:22 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:17:22 -0500 Subject: New law authorizing FCC regulation of advertising loudness In-Reply-To: <4D0A6C72.9070401@gmail.com> References: <19721.28205.941882.690490@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4D097D0B.7070702@gmail.com> <19721.33850.548314.681162@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4D0A6C72.9070401@gmail.com> Message-ID: <19722.36850.678512.155950@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > So, how will this be enforced? Probably it will be enforced in the same way that EAS was enforced: the FCC sends around inspectors to observe that the correct equipment is installed and appears to be working, and takes the station's word for it that it's configured correctly, unless it receives a credible (read: from a competitor) allegation to the contrary based on actual measurements of the data stream. -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Dec 16 17:21:56 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:21:56 -0500 Subject: New law authorizing FCC regulation of advertising loudness In-Reply-To: <4D09AC86.1050405@attorneyross.com> References: <19721.28205.941882.690490@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <55E151AE476040C786120768543244F8@SatU205S5044> <4D09AC86.1050405@attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <19722.37124.829088.995041@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I wouldn't be too sure. Even if they can get that through Congress, I > suspect the President might veto it. And it might not be that easy to > get 60 votes in the Senate. It's particularly hard to get 60 votes in the Senate to repeal a bill that passed unanimously in the previous Senate. In other words, not even remotely likely to happen. Commercial loudness on TV is one of the most common complaints received by members of Congress from constituents. -GAWollman From linc@reed-nickerson.com Thu Dec 16 20:32:11 2010 From: linc@reed-nickerson.com (Linc Reed-Nickerson) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:32:11 -0800 Subject: Mitchell Savajian Obituary In-Reply-To: <22091798.21002.1292537729667.JavaMail.root@m05> References: <22091798.21002.1292537729667.JavaMail.root@m05> Message-ID: <022001cb9d8a$3abd18f0$b0374ad0$@com> Sad news, I worked with "Mark Mitchell" at WNBP in Newburyport in 1964/65. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of lglavin@mail.com Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 1:05 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Mitchell Savajian Obituary On Friday (12/10) the Lawrence Eagle Tribune ran an obituary for Mitchel J. Savajian. The obit indicated that he worked in the radio industry for over 40 years and was an account-executive at WCCM in Lawrence, Ma and Salem, NH from 1977 until 1997. I couldn't get the URL for his specific entry on the Tribune's website to work here, but you can go to: http://www.eagletribune.com/obituaries and find it among the December 10th obits. Oh...and another thing: if anyone was worried that I might have been affected by the lack of gas heat in Methuen; no, I have oil heat. From linc@reed-nickerson.com Thu Dec 16 20:57:24 2010 From: linc@reed-nickerson.com (Linc Reed-Nickerson) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:57:24 -0800 Subject: You Say "Skizzum", I Say "Sizz-um"... In-Reply-To: <1915915.21001.1292537729301.JavaMail.root@m05> References: <1915915.21001.1292537729301.JavaMail.root@m05> Message-ID: <022101cb9d8d$c0910470$41b30d50$@com> 0.1 mS/m also occurs in Central New Hampshire and in the coast range of Oregon. My 1Kw on 820 in Waldport, Oregon is headed for the noise at 20 miles, but my 1kW on 1230 in eastern Oregon (Burns) is still very listenable at 75 miles, 1230 in Toledo, OR., near the coast, like Waldport is almost in the noise within site of the tower! In both cases real conductivity is far different than shown on the FCC map. A lot of <0.5 mS/m in western Washington state, too. I've driven many miles and made many measurements! Linc -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of lglavin@mail.com Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 12:48 PM To: dan.strassberg@att.net; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: You Say "Skizzum", I Say "Sizz-um"... >-----Original Message----- >From: Dan.Strassberg >To: Steve Snow ; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >Sent: Sat, Dec 4, 2010 5:27 pm >Subject: Re: You Say "Skizzum", I Say "Sizz-um"... >WQOM's day pattern is a three-tower modified cardioid with the >radiation maximum at 90 degrees true. IIRC, the maximum >inverse-distance field--and it's pretty broad--is ~5700 mV/m @1km, >which is equivalent to ~200 kW from the better-than half-wave towers. >If you compare 5700 mV/m with the Class B minimum of 281 mV/m/kW @ >1km, the equivalent power is about 400 kW ND. >Forget about not feeding the fishes! All that power really is >necessary to deliver a competitive signal to downtown Boston because, >according to measurements taken for WAMG and (then) WBIX, the soil >conductivity east of the site is a very dramtically low 0.1 mS/m, a >value that I thought never ocurred in nature except in granite >quarries and between the skyscrapers of places like midtown Manhattan. Now that it appears likely that at any time between sunrise and sunset (7:00 am thru 4:15 in December), WQOM will be at maximum power, has anybody out there who lives in Boston, Brookline, Cambridge or Somerville, or drives around those communities during those hours, tried to tune in to WQOM? (Or, Medford, home of WILD-AM, although this station is weaker than WBZ-AM and no longer emits IBOC hash). From billohno@gmail.com Thu Dec 16 23:06:49 2010 From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 23:06:49 -0500 Subject: New law authorizing FCC regulation of advertising loudness In-Reply-To: <19722.37124.829088.995041@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <19721.28205.941882.690490@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <55E151AE476040C786120768543244F8@SatU205S5044> <4D09AC86.1050405@attorneyross.com> <19722.37124.829088.995041@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4D0AE1D9.1060507@gmail.com> On 12/16/2010 5:21 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Commercial loudness on TV is one of > the most common complaints received by members of Congress from > constituents. > Think: potholes, missing stop signs. It's what pols look at as an easy 'give' to people who spend way too much time not reading. Commercial audio loudness law? Really? "Up next on 'Congress, the Clicker, and You', Michael Moore will tease his next film entitled, "Hey Congress: Don't Do Dumb Stuff Like that Anymore Until the Republicans Take Over So They Can Catch the Stink." Bill O'Neill From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Dec 18 10:36:00 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:36:00 -0500 Subject: Eddie Andleman calls it quits Message-ID: Radio legend Eddie Andelman says his WTKK (96.9 FM) Sunday night show Dec. 26 will be the last one of his career. By his count, Andelman has done more than 13,000 shows. I don't think he was forced out as he was buying the time from 96.9 and he has his loyal friends. While The Sports Huddle was not the first sports talk show in Boston it certainly became the leader especially on Wyoming, Blasting and Zoning. It sputtered for a few years on WEEI and can roaring back in the 80's on WHDH. Eddie certainly helped WEEI when it became all sports but he could not stand to be in the same room with Ordway. Eddie lost his fastball years ago but his place in a Boston Radio hall of Fame is secure. It all started when the owner of WUNR heard Eddie and 2 friends arguing sports at a Boston bar and he put them on the air. http://www.969bostontalks.com/on-air/sportshuddle2.aspx From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Dec 18 12:30:39 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 12:30:39 -0500 Subject: Eddie Andleman calls it quits In-Reply-To: <489760.8546.qm@web110514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <489760.8546.qm@web110514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Eddie indirectly saved the Patriots. He and not the Sullivan's owned the parking lots around Foxboro Stadium and he sold that land to Bob Kraft. You know the rest of the story. On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Sean Smyth wrote: > On Sat, 12/18/10, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > Radio legend Eddie Andelman says his > > WTKK (96.9 FM) Sunday night show Dec. > > 26 will be the last one of his career. By his count, > > Andelman has done more > > than 13,000 shows. > > > > I don't think he was forced out as he was buying the time > > from 96.9 and he > > has his loyal friends. > > > > While The Sports Huddle was not the first sports talk show > > in Boston it > > certainly became the leader especially on Wyoming, Blasting > > and Zoning. It > > sputtered for a few years on WEEI and can roaring back in > > the 80's on WHDH. > > Eddie certainly helped WEEI when it became all sports but > > he could not stand > > to be in the same room with Ordway. > > > > Eddie lost his fastball years ago but his place in a Boston > > Radio hall of > > Fame is secure. > > > > It all started when the owner of WUNR heard Eddie and 2 > > friends arguing > > sports at a Boston bar and he put them on the air. > > > > http://www.969bostontalks.com/on-air/sportshuddle2.aspx > > There goes the voice of my childhood. My parents, not big sports fans > themselves, nonetheless kept the radio on 850 each afternoon when Eddie's > show came on. He's definitely one reason why I became a big sports fan and > had the dream of going in to broadcasting. > > And the untold good he's done for people in this city. > > There was a great Boston Globe Magazine article on Eddie sometime in the > early 1990s -- I think he had just jumped back to WEEI at that point. > > > > From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Sat Dec 18 12:24:37 2010 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 09:24:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Eddie Andleman calls it quits In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <489760.8546.qm@web110514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Sat, 12/18/10, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Radio legend Eddie Andelman says his > WTKK (96.9 FM) Sunday night show Dec. > 26 will be the last one of his career. By his count, > Andelman has done more > than 13,000 shows. > > I don't think he was forced out as he was buying the time > from 96.9 and he > has his loyal friends. > > While The Sports Huddle was not the first sports talk show > in Boston it > certainly became the leader especially on Wyoming, Blasting > and Zoning. It > sputtered for a few years on WEEI and can roaring back in > the 80's on WHDH. > Eddie certainly helped WEEI when it became all sports but > he could not stand > to be in the same room with Ordway. > > Eddie lost his fastball years ago but his place in a Boston > Radio hall of > Fame is secure. > > It all started when the owner of WUNR heard Eddie and 2 > friends arguing > sports at a Boston bar and he put them on the air. > > http://www.969bostontalks.com/on-air/sportshuddle2.aspx There goes the voice of my childhood. My parents, not big sports fans themselves, nonetheless kept the radio on 850 each afternoon when Eddie's show came on. He's definitely one reason why I became a big sports fan and had the dream of going in to broadcasting. And the untold good he's done for people in this city. There was a great Boston Globe Magazine article on Eddie sometime in the early 1990s -- I think he had just jumped back to WEEI at that point. From rac@gabrielmass.com Sat Dec 18 13:05:37 2010 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 13:05:37 -0500 Subject: Eddie Andleman calls it quits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D0CF7F1.3010901@server4.gabrielmass.com> On 12/18/2010 10:36 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Radio legend Eddie Andelman says his WTKK (96.9 FM) Sunday night show Dec. > 26 will be the last one of his career. By his count, Andelman has done more > than 13,000 shows. Tribute: Eddie Andelman's "Sports Huddle" was the only sports show fun enough to bridge the gap and make a total non-fan like me tune in regularly. Hats off to Eddie. An honorable mention goes to Bruce and the Benchwarmers. -_RC From wilkinsmg@hotmail.com Sun Dec 19 17:20:49 2010 From: wilkinsmg@hotmail.com (Michael Wilkins) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 17:20:49 -0500 Subject: Dropo and Pesky at WBMS In-Reply-To: <4D0CF7F1.3010901@server4.gabrielmass.com> References: , <4D0CF7F1.3010901@server4.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: With the passing of Walt Dropo (first baseman for the Red Sox in the early 50's) on Friday, I put some wire photos I had of him up on-liner. The one I like the most, is a shot of Walt and Johnny Pesky in the studios of WBMS, which you can via the link below: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgwilkins/5274949302 Mike From m_carney@yahoo.com Thu Dec 23 18:37:44 2010 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:37:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Comcast offering other RSNs Message-ID: <382265.84703.qm@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I don't know when this happened (because Comcast didn't release anything to employees) but at least in the Boston area they're carrying CSN Bay Area, SNY and The Mountain Network in the 100 tier. From markwats@comcast.net Thu Dec 23 20:27:07 2010 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 20:27:07 -0500 Subject: Comcast offering other RSNs References: <382265.84703.qm@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E2216372D474F97ABE4163FA78792C1@Mark> Maureen Carney wrote: > I don't know when this happened (because Comcast didn't release anything > to > employees) but at least in the Boston area they're carrying CSN Bay Area, > SNY > and The Mountain Network in the 100 tier. I just checked my TV, and find that Comcast has added those three in Lowell, SNY is 128, Mountain is 131, and CSN Bay Area is 133. Mark Watson From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Thu Dec 23 20:22:15 2010 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:22:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Comcast offering other RSNs In-Reply-To: <382265.84703.qm@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <500368.47550.qm@web110509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Thu, 12/23/10, Maureen Carney wrote: > I don't know when this happened > (because Comcast didn't release anything to > employees) but at least in the Boston area they're carrying > CSN Bay Area, SNY > and The Mountain Network in the 100 tier. I wouldn't think it'd be worth it, given the amount of programming you'd have to black out. I'll check tonight to see if we get the same in suburban D.C. (I would like the option to watch CSN-NE on occasion.) Also, is The MTN classified as a RSN? I'd argue that it isn't. From mward@iname.com Thu Dec 23 23:31:43 2010 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 23:31:43 -0500 Subject: Comcast offering other RSNs In-Reply-To: <382265.84703.qm@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <382265.84703.qm@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Maureen Carney wrote: > ?I don't know when this happened (because Comcast didn't release anything to > employees) but at least in the Boston area they're carrying CSN Bay Area, SNY > and The Mountain Network in the 100 tier. This seems to be a cable/RSN trend. I don't have digital cable, but Time Warner Cable here in Northeast Ohio has reportedly added at least three out of market RSNs in the digital sports tier. Maybe they're trying to combat the satellite networks' "SportsPak" offerings. Like those, all the good stuff, the out-of-market games, are not aired. From paul@derrynh.net Thu Dec 23 23:38:54 2010 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 23:38:54 -0500 Subject: Comcast offering other RSNs In-Reply-To: <4E2216372D474F97ABE4163FA78792C1@Mark> References: <382265.84703.qm@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4E2216372D474F97ABE4163FA78792C1@Mark> Message-ID: Must be all Comcast customers....same stations/channels here in Concord NH -Paul Hopfgarten ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Watson" To: "Maureen Carney" ; "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 8:27 PM Subject: Re: Comcast offering other RSNs > > Maureen Carney wrote: > >> I don't know when this happened (because Comcast didn't release anything >> to >> employees) but at least in the Boston area they're carrying CSN Bay Area, >> SNY >> and The Mountain Network in the 100 tier. > > I just checked my TV, and find that Comcast has added those three in > Lowell, SNY is 128, Mountain is 131, and CSN Bay Area is 133. > > Mark Watson > From rac@gabrielmass.com Thu Dec 23 23:53:28 2010 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 23:53:28 -0500 Subject: Eddie Andleman calls it quits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D142748.9000309@server4.gabrielmass.com> On 12/18/2010 10:36 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> Radio legend Eddie Andelman says his WTKK (96.9 FM) Sunday night show Dec. >> 26 will be the last one of his career. By his count, Andelman has done more >> than 13,000 shows. > Thursday's Herald piece by Jessica Heslam reports Andelman's retirement as just a "maybe": > ?I have nothing else to prove in sports, and I?m going to take the winter off and maybe retire,? Andelman said yesterday. http://www.bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1305019&format=&page=2&listingType=media#articleFull --RC From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Fri Dec 24 01:52:37 2010 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:52:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Eddie Andleman calls it quits In-Reply-To: <4D142748.9000309@server4.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <126167.51823.qm@web110506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Thu, 12/23/10, Richard Chonak wrote: > Thursday's Herald piece by Jessica Heslam reports > Andelman's retirement > as just a "maybe": > > > ?I have nothing else to prove in sports, and I?m > going to take the winter off and maybe retire,? Andelman > said yesterday. > > http://www.bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1305019&format=&page=2&listingType=media#articleFull > It also mentions 96.9 is brokering its weekend air slots. I thought Eddie's recent show was brokered, though. The Sports Huddle's Lappen's spot is one of the most politically incorrect -- and funniest -- things I've ever heard on Boston radio. Admittedly, I'm a relative youngun. From scott@fybush.com Fri Dec 24 08:13:33 2010 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 08:13:33 -0500 Subject: Comcast offering other RSNs In-Reply-To: <382265.84703.qm@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <382265.84703.qm@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D149C7D.8070408@fybush.com> Maureen Carney wrote: > I don't know when this happened (because Comcast didn't release anything to > employees) but at least in the Boston area they're carrying CSN Bay Area, SNY > and The Mountain Network in the 100 tier. No sign of any out-of-market RSN action here on TWC in Rochester - just the usual NY regionals, YES, SNY, MSG (plus the MSG overflow channel that carries Sabres games, an odd aftereffect of the demise a few years back of the Buffalo-based Empire Sports Network, which was part of the bankrupt Adelphia/Rigas empire.) We also have "TWCS," the Time Warner sports network that carries games of our local minor-league teams, Syracuse University basketball and is otherwise a simulcast of ESPNews. I'd dearly love to have NECN and CSN New England here! s From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Dec 24 08:29:52 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 08:29:52 -0500 Subject: Comcast offering other RSNs In-Reply-To: <4D149C7D.8070408@fybush.com> References: <382265.84703.qm@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4D149C7D.8070408@fybush.com> Message-ID: NESN has been picked up by Time-Warner in North Carolina and South Carolina and on Bright House in Florida and Michigan. http://www.nesn.com/nesn-national-channel-listings.html I also know NESN has shown up on ATT Universe in Illinois From rbello@belloassoc.com Fri Dec 24 11:32:39 2010 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:32:39 -0500 Subject: Comcast offering other RSNs In-Reply-To: <4D149C7D.8070408@fybush.com> References: <382265.84703.qm@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4D149C7D.8070408@fybush.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > > > I'd dearly love to have NECN and CSN New England here! > > s > Want out of town sports WITH the games ? Place a SlingBox in a friend's house. You will be able to watch all their cable channels with no fees I watched the Celtics beat Philly on Wed in Florida From mward@iname.com Fri Dec 24 11:39:48 2010 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:39:48 -0500 Subject: Comcast offering other RSNs In-Reply-To: References: <382265.84703.qm@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4D149C7D.8070408@fybush.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > NESN has been picked up by Time-Warner in North Carolina and South Carolina > and on Bright House in Florida and Michigan. > > http://www.nesn.com/nesn-national-channel-listings.html > > I also know NESN has shown up on ATT Universe in Illinois A quick check of the TWC Northeast Ohio digital lineup shows: 341 YES Network 342 New England Sports Network From markwats@comcast.net Fri Dec 24 17:03:23 2010 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 17:03:23 -0500 Subject: WPKZ's Ben Parker Heading To WBZ Message-ID: WPKZ (1280 Fitchburg, formerly WEIM) morning show host Ben Parker is leaving the station after 5 years as he has been hired as a news reporter at WBZ radio. Taking over the WPKZ morning show until a permanent replacement is found is the man Parker replaced in AM drive: former morning show host "Ray C" Chalifoux, who has been with WEIM/WPKZ for over 40 years. More details from the Fitchburg/Leominster Sentinel & Enterprise: http://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/local/ci_16936269 Mark Watson From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Dec 24 19:10:00 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 19:10:00 -0500 Subject: WPKZ's Ben Parker Heading To WBZ References: Message-ID: <9A4E4F32928F406D9D31E8133D5234CC@SatU205S5044> So does this mean that WBZ is getting ready to make permanent and official Rod Fritz's position as the replacement for now-departed AM-drive guy Ed Walsh? Fritz just sort of slid into Walsh's job without any fanfare or announcement, making it seem as though his position in AM drive was only temporary, even though a lot of people (on the outside, anyway) had regarded Fritz as the obvious candidate. Does anyone know what gives? Is someone else going to eventually take over for Walsh? If so, is there any buzz on who that might be? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Watson" To: "Boston Radio" Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 5:03 PM Subject: WPKZ's Ben Parker Heading To WBZ > WPKZ (1280 Fitchburg, formerly WEIM) morning show host Ben Parker > is leaving the station after 5 years as he has been hired as a news > reporter at WBZ radio. Taking over the WPKZ morning show until a > permanent replacement is found is the man Parker replaced in AM > drive: former morning show host "Ray C" Chalifoux, who has been with > WEIM/WPKZ for over 40 years. More details from the > Fitchburg/Leominster Sentinel & Enterprise: > > http://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/local/ci_16936269 > > Mark Watson > From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Dec 25 11:19:16 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 11:19:16 -0500 Subject: South Florida radio icon Neil Rogers has died Message-ID: Neil Rogers was offered jobs in Boston many times but said if he would return north it would only be to Toronto. One of the best talk show hosts I have ever heard even if he was slightly insane. RIP http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/12/24/1988066/shock-jock-succumbs-to-heart-disease.html From stevesnow1@gmail.com Mon Dec 20 12:17:10 2010 From: stevesnow1@gmail.com (Steve Snow) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 12:17:10 -0500 Subject: R.I.P. Paul Hurd Message-ID: Just found out from NERW's latest edition about the passing of former WHDH Chief Engineer Paul Hurd. He was instrumental in helping me make a career of Radio after a summer of dabbling in TV at WCVB. Paul was a great boss and a true gentleman and will be truly missed among those of his acquaintance in the Boston radio market. From lglavin@mail.com Wed Dec 22 15:29:48 2010 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:29:48 -0500 Subject: Fred Foy Dead; Lived In Massachusetts Message-ID: <8CD702E1CFC85B5-834-78DE@web-mmc-d01.sysops.aol.com> It's truly the end of an era. According to the N Y Times, announcer Fred Foy died today here in Massachusetts at the age of 89 (according to Wikipedia, he was a resident of Woburn...who knew?). He's the man who intoned what was probably the most famous intro in radio: "A fiery horse with the speed of light, a cloud of dust and a hearty 'Hi-yo Silver'...the Lone Ranger! With his faithful Indian companion, Tonto, the daring and resourceful masked rider of the plains led the fight for law and order in the early West. Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesterday... the Lone Ranger rides again!" Today of course it would have to be pointed out that if Silver travelled at the speed of light, he would achieve infinite mass; also Tonto would be described as a Native-American. BTW, Brace Beemer. the radio voice of LR, who was somewhat oder than Fred Foy, died in 1965. Fun fact: if you rearrange the letters in his name you get "embrace beer". I did. Was this a SUBLIMINAL ad before the term was coined? From supersport@maine.rr.com Sun Dec 26 17:43:54 2010 From: supersport@maine.rr.com (Supersport) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 17:43:54 -0500 Subject: South Florida radio icon Neil Rogers has died In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Neil was awesome! It is very sad to read this. I am thankful for all the Spring Breaks I hit the area and listened to Neil, and so glad I taped many of those shows! RIO -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Vahey [mailto:kvahey@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2010 11:19 AM To: bri Subject: South Florida radio icon Neil Rogers has died Neil Rogers was offered jobs in Boston many times but said if he would return north it would only be to Toronto. One of the best talk show hosts I have ever heard even if he was slightly insane. RIP http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/12/24/1988066/shock-jock-succumbs-to-heart-d isease.html From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Dec 29 01:20:47 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 01:20:47 -0500 Subject: Fred Foy Message-ID: <4D1AD33F.4020606@attorneyross.com> Fred Foy, a radio announcer in the Golden Age and narrator of the Lone Ranger, died last week in his home in Woburn. Here is an interview with him on YouTube, in which he describes his early days in radio, how he became the Lone Ranger's announcer and narrator, and how he once played the Lone Ranger when Brace Beemer had laryngitis. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW87Kf7gw6o -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From TK41C@aol.com Wed Dec 29 10:51:28 2010 From: TK41C@aol.com (TK41C@aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 10:51:28 EST Subject: R.I.P. Paul Hurd Message-ID: <478d1.2c866e39.3a4cb300@aol.com> I,too, worked briefly for Paul eons ago. Indeed, he was a true gentleman, and a hands on, competent engineer-from AM to analog TV. He kept the Needham TX plant running at top performance, even though most of the gear was vacuum tube. He once said that directional AM engineering could be as difficult as TV-Very true. A few Paul stories- When working for RCA Service Co, he was commissioning a new transmitter plant in OK, and before performing the proof, the RCA crew decided to break for lunch, and let the TX stabilize. The rig was running into a water cooled dummy load. During lunch, there was a backhoe fade, dropping water pressure to zero. No fail safe at the time, the dummy load blew its top, and sent gel goo all over the equipt. The goo hardened like volcanic rock. RCA had to replace it all. While at WHDH, I was taking tower base current readings at the AM site one day. One had to descend into the doghouses, stand on a wooden box, and reach over a large loading coil to open the shunt. Then wait for no modulation during Jess Cain's show-they were plentiful. Also, there was water in the doghouse. When I explained my safety concerns to Paul, he dismissed them, noting that they never had an incident. Several weeks later, he had to perform the same task, and took an RF burn. When I asked about the hole in his jacket, Paul said that he had a "little incident" at the AM site. We all knew what had happened. The old WHDH group was a classy bunch-Phil Baldwin, Geo St Andre, and Paul, plus the technicians. I believe George is still vertically polarized. Good days. RIP, Paul. Tnx. J Ballard W1JHB From dbroda@nycap.rr.com Fri Dec 31 13:16:29 2010 From: dbroda@nycap.rr.com (Douglas Broda) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:16:29 -0500 Subject: Comcast offering other RSNs In-Reply-To: References: <382265.84703.qm@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4D149C7D.8070408@fybush.com> Message-ID: <4D1E1DFD.4030801@nycap.rr.com> It appears that there is a special NESN feed called "NESN National" that is fed to these out-of-market cable companies. http://www.nesn.com/nesn-national.html On 12/24/2010 8:29 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > NESN has been picked up by Time-Warner in North Carolina and South Carolina > and on Bright House in Florida and Michigan. > > http://www.nesn.com/nesn-national-channel-listings.html > > I also know NESN has shown up on ATT Universe in Illinois > > -- Douglas J. Broda Attorney at Law Post Office Box 239 Troy, New York 12182 (518) 272-0580 Fax (518) 237-0949 NOTE: I do not regularly read emails from this account, other than those sent to mailing lists to which I subscribe, in order to minimize spam. If you need to reach me quickly and do not have my other email address, please feel free to call me. From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Dec 31 16:45:04 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:45:04 -0500 Subject: new year wishes Message-ID: <201012312221.oBVMLmSx053975@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Sending thanks to Garrett for keeping the list going and keeping us from veering too far off course, and sending best wishes to the list-members for a healthy and prosperous 2011. From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 31 17:31:06 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:31:06 -0500 Subject: new year wishes In-Reply-To: <201012312221.oBVMLmSx053975@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <201012312221.oBVMLmSx053975@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4D1E59AA.50408@attorneyross.com> On 12/31/2010 4:45 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > Sending thanks to Garrett for keeping the list going and keeping us > from veering too far off course, and sending best wishes to the > list-members for a healthy and prosperous 2011. Amen! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com