From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Apr 2 08:42:08 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 08:42:08 -0400 Subject: Lost mail Message-ID: Hi again, Garrett: I checked my Webmail mailbox at att.yahoo.com and indeed a spam filter and folder had been set up without my knowledge, apparently by default. I believe I have now disabled the filter. Most of the 1100 or so messages that the filter had caught (most of which were dated on or after 3/14/2010) are now gone from Yahoo's mail server and now reside in my Outlook Express inbox on one of my local hard drives. Of these, the vast majority are spam, but some are not and there seems to be no rhyme or reason to why the ones that were labeled as spam were so labeled or why the ones that were not labeled as spam were not so labeled. I have never trusted spam filters and have always disabled them when I knew that I had to do so, even though it means scanning hundreds of message titles each day for messages that are or may be of value. I lost a few messages until I realized that if I clicked on a message and then clicked on NOT Spam on the Yahoo Mailbox toolbar, the message simply disappared, never to be found--not in my inbox, not in my trash, just GONE! Apparently, clicking on Not Spam is a no-no; if you don't want to lose a message that the filter has classified as spam, you must click on Move and then select Inbox. Who knew? Yahoo mail SUCKS!!! HOWEVER, I did NOT find ANY messages from the Boston Radio Interest list and expecially did not find the normal first-of-the-month message that I should have received yesterday! Does this mean that the server sent at least a few of the messages to me, but when Yahoo classified them as spam, it sent the list server a message that caused the list server to automatically delete my e-mail address from the list? Whether that is the explanation or not, I would like to get back on the mailing list. Please help! ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From lsochrin@rcn.com Fri Apr 2 11:11:28 2010 From: lsochrin@rcn.com (Larry Sochrin) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 11:11:28 -0400 Subject: Speaking of WBZ/CBS extras Message-ID: In addition to WBZ/CBS running a weather phone line, the makers of a digital to analog converter box I use tell me that the local CBS station is the one that sends out the program guide information that the box uses. When I've complained that the guide often shows no information for major stations and also doesn't go out as far in terms of hours/days as those in other cities see, they always tell me that I should tell the local CBS station to get on the ball, keep the thing up-to-date. Any chance that one of you can help with this? From markwats@comcast.net Sat Apr 3 07:40:47 2010 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 07:40:47 -0400 Subject: Gary Tanguay Out As 98.5 Sports Hub Midday Co-Host Message-ID: <32637A0D43C142E4961E7B8EF9992E57@Mark> According to the Boston Globe, Gary Tanguay is out as 98.5 The Sports Hub midday co-host. Andy Gresh, who is part of the Patriots radio pre & post game shows, will take over the midday co-host slot alongside Scott Zolak. http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/articles/2010/04/03/tanguay_out_at_985_fm/ Mark Watson From m_carney@yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 12:53:21 2010 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 09:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Gary Tanguay Out As 98.5 Sports Hub Midday Co-Host In-Reply-To: <32637A0D43C142E4961E7B8EF9992E57@Mark> References: <32637A0D43C142E4961E7B8EF9992E57@Mark> Message-ID: <205911.86733.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I can confirm that Gary didn't know this would happen - otherwise it would have been all over the CSN office yesterday. Now the question is did Gresh insist on a full-time slot or did someone realize that Tanguay was overworked between Sports Hub, CSN and his Celtics duties? From nostaticatall@charter.net Sun Apr 4 05:41:58 2010 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 05:41:58 -0400 Subject: Gary Tanguay Out As 98.5 Sports Hub Midday Co-Host In-Reply-To: <205911.86733.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <32637A0D43C142E4961E7B8EF9992E57@Mark> <205911.86733.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <076FDF2D-4965-4C64-B96B-907301E5E035@charter.net> Celtics are going to end in a few weeks, so I don't think Gary's dismissal was due to overwork. It was simply a numbers game. Middays were the lowest rated daypart on the station. I think the Sports Hub is hoping that Gresh & Zolac will attract a younger audience more in line with the rest of the day and to counter the older skewing Dale & Holley show at WEEI. 98.5 really exudes a more youthful vibe than WEEI, and Tanguay just didn't fit that presentation. -Dave Tomm On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Maureen Carney wrote: > I can confirm that Gary didn't know this would happen - otherwise it > would have been all over the CSN office yesterday. Now the question > is did Gresh insist on a full-time slot or did someone realize that > Tanguay was overworked between Sports Hub, CSN and his Celtics duties? > From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Apr 5 11:31:38 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:31:38 -0400 Subject: Moderator travel Message-ID: <19386.602.14571.427207@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Your friendly moderator is about to leave for his annual trip to Las Vegas, where he won't be attending the NAB Convention. He will, however, be visiting lots of radio towers in Southern California and bringing back pictures that Will Get On The Web Site Some Day, We Promise. He would like you to be aware that messages requiring moderator attention may be delayed until he gets back, on April 14th. Hopefully by that time he will have stopped referring to himself in the third person. The Moderator From billohno@gmail.com Mon Apr 5 17:00:23 2010 From: billohno@gmail.com (billohno@gmail.com) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:00:23 -0400 Subject: Field mics Message-ID: <4BBA4F67.2010308@gmail.com> So, what microphone do you like the best for field audio, voicers, etc. perhaps 'better' and 'best'? Bill O'Neill From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Apr 6 18:20:49 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:20:49 -0400 Subject: Rush Limbaugh billboard In-Reply-To: <19386.602.14571.427207@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <19386.602.14571.427207@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <20100406222102.16D9A1ED4BB@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> I notice there is now a big "Rush Limbaugh is on 1200 AM Rush Radio" billboard on the Southeast Expressway, right past Neponset. Anyone seen any others? From rac@gabrielmass.com Tue Apr 6 19:00:07 2010 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 19:00:07 -0400 Subject: Rush Limbaugh billboard In-Reply-To: <20100406222102.16D9A1ED4BB@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <19386.602.14571.427207@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20100406222102.16D9A1ED4BB@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4BBBBCF7.4000503@server4.gabrielmass.com> On 04/06/2010 06:20 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > I notice there is now a big "Rush Limbaugh is on 1200 AM Rush Radio" > billboard on the Southeast Expressway, right past Neponset. Anyone seen > any others? > I saw one the other day on 495 in Lawrence or Methuen. --RC From rac@gabrielmass.com Tue Apr 6 19:13:20 2010 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 19:13:20 -0400 Subject: NH rap number sends respect to Al Kaprelian Message-ID: <4BBBC010.50702@server4.gabrielmass.com> For your amusement, folks: A rap parody going the rounds today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7nQrCgALM alludes to a long list of Granite State cultural landmarks and notables. At 3:08, the lyric runs: "you can go to Bike Week, that's up in Laconia, in the winter months, it's the notch of Franconia, home to B-O-D-E, our Olympic ski champion: he faced high pressure, like my man Al Kaprelian..." These folks certainly have there NewHampshireiana down pat! --RC From hykker@wildblue.net Tue Apr 6 19:19:56 2010 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 19:19:56 -0400 Subject: Field mics In-Reply-To: <4BBA4F67.2010308@gmail.com> References: <4BBA4F67.2010308@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4bbbc1b2.e402be0a.3aac.ffffef8a@mx.google.com> At 05:00 PM 4/5/2010, billohno@gmail.com wrote: >So, what microphone do you like the best for field audio, voicers, >etc. perhaps 'better' and 'best'? Not sure what you mean...are you talking about "man in the street" interviews, remote broadcast-type stuff? For my stations I've always gotten fairly cheap mics, the Behringer/Shure/Audio Technica ones that go for 5/$99 at the broadcast supply houses. They don't sound too bad for the purpose and if one gets lost, broken, stolen, etc. no big loss. From paul@derrynh.net Tue Apr 6 19:54:15 2010 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:54:15 -0400 Subject: WTPL (The Pulse) now simulcasting on WWHK In-Reply-To: <20100406222102.16D9A1ED4BB@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <19386.602.14571.427207@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20100406222102.16D9A1ED4BB@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <83485CD7581B4822A83FF64C7E2C15EB@PaulPC> As of today (Tue 4/6) and possible staring yesterday, WTPL (107.7 Hillsborough NH) is simulcasting on 102.3 WWHK Concord NH. I don't know if it's a lease time or purchase.. -Paul Hopfgarten -Concord NH From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Tue Apr 6 21:02:07 2010 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:02:07 -0400 Subject: Rush Limbaugh billboard In-Reply-To: <20100406222102.16D9A1ED4BB@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <19386.602.14571.427207@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20100406222102.16D9A1ED4BB@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4BBBD98F.3040600@ttlc.net> There's one on the Northbound side of Rte 93 somewhere near Montvale Avenue. Donna Halper wrote: > I notice there is now a big "Rush Limbaugh is on 1200 AM Rush Radio" > billboard on the Southeast Expressway, right past Neponset. Anyone > seen any others? > > > > From ehennessy@verizon.net Wed Apr 7 07:39:25 2010 From: ehennessy@verizon.net (Ed Hennessy) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:39:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Rush Limbaugh billboard Message-ID: <10539309.1204210.1270640365516.JavaMail.root@vms075.mailsrvcs.net> There's one on the eastbound side of the Pike in Allston, near the Sports Depot restaurant. On Apr 6, 2010, Roger Kirk wrote: There's one on the Northbound side of Rte 93 somewhere near Montvale Avenue. Donna Halper wrote: > I notice there is now a big "Rush Limbaugh is on 1200 AM Rush Radio" > billboard on the Southeast Expressway, right past Neponset. Anyone > seen any others? > > > > From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Apr 8 14:54:07 2010 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:54:07 -0400 Subject: The old WBCN studios is now a BAR Message-ID: http://www.jerryremys.com/index.html I do not even want to know how much the 11 foot HDTV's cost From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Apr 8 17:53:16 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:53:16 -0400 Subject: The old WBCN studios is now a BAR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100408215333.D858944C003@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 02:54 PM 4/8/2010, Kevin Vahey wrote: >http://www.jerryremys.com/index.html > >I do not even want to know how much the 11 foot HDTV's cost Sad, but not surprising. Hey speaking of the old WBCN, anybody got a suggestion as to where I could get any old photos of the on air talent (like Charles or Oedipus) for a new book I'm working on? From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Apr 8 23:47:57 2010 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 23:47:57 -0400 Subject: The old WBCN studios is now a BAR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006a01cad797$74992eb0$5dcb8c10$@com> > To: bri > Subject: The old WBCN studios is now a BAR > > http://www.jerryremys.com/index.html > > I do not even want to know how much the 11 foot HDTV's cost > My dealer price book only goes up to the 85" 1080P Plasma and that's about $27K street price. Ouch. From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Apr 9 01:31:35 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:31:35 -0400 Subject: The old WBCN studios is now a BAR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BBEBBB7.1033.9FD665@joe.attorneyross.com> On 8 Apr 2010 at 14:54, Kevin Vahey wrote: > http://www.jerryremys.com/index.html > > I do not even want to know how much the 11 foot HDTV's cost This is not the original WBCN studios. When WBCN was a classical music station, its studios were at 171 Newbury Street. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From m_carney@yahoo.com Fri Apr 9 13:37:53 2010 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The old WBCN studios is now a BAR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <311615.4875.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Check out the "Season Ticket Program" section. For $500 for Red Sox (lesser amounts for Bruins, Celtics and Patriots) you are guaranteed a seat on game day. I think the fee covers the entire season. The Personal Seat License comes to a restaurant near you. As for the space at least it's being used and (hopefully) producing revenue, unlike so much retail and office space in this economy. From tcoco@whav.net Tue Apr 6 12:04:55 2010 From: tcoco@whav.net (Tim Coco) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:04:55 -0400 Subject: Field mics In-Reply-To: <4BBA4F67.2010308@gmail.com> References: <4BBA4F67.2010308@gmail.com> Message-ID: <91278CB4E3CD40C1AB0C68CF6CFDF177@CEO> Call me old-fashioned, but nothing beats an EV-635 in the field. Sound quality is faithful and the microphones are virtually indestructible. Tim Coco President & General Manager WHAV -----Original Message----- From: billohno@gmail.com [mailto:billohno@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 5:00 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org Subject: Field mics So, what microphone do you like the best for field audio, voicers, etc. perhaps 'better' and 'best'? Bill O'Neill From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Apr 16 20:27:52 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:27:52 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr suspended??? Message-ID: <20100417002754.366E11E5D97@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> I just heard a hot rumour from a usually good source that Howie has been suspended. Anybody know anything????? From MauOB@aol.com Fri Apr 16 20:39:23 2010 From: MauOB@aol.com (MauOB@aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:39:23 EDT Subject: Howie Carr suspended??? Message-ID: <8ffb1.55942f87.38fa5d3b@aol.com> In a message dated 4/16/2010 8:28:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dlh@donnahalper.com writes: just heard a hot rumour from a usually good source that Howie has been suspended. Anybody know anything????? I was listening this afternoon and did hear several comments about Finneran. He was scheduled to be off next week anyway. Maureen From scott@fybush.com Fri Apr 16 23:13:12 2010 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:13:12 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr suspended??? In-Reply-To: <20100417002754.366E11E5D97@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20100417002754.366E11E5D97@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4BC92748.50908@fybush.com> Donna Halper wrote: > I just heard a hot rumour from a usually good source that Howie has been > suspended. Anybody know anything????? > > I am hearing this as well. No details yet; I'm traveling (again) at a family event near NYC. I understand there will be something in the Globe in the morning. s From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Apr 16 23:19:35 2010 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:19:35 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr suspended??? In-Reply-To: <4BC92748.50908@fybush.com> References: <20100417002754.366E11E5D97@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <4BC92748.50908@fybush.com> Message-ID: <002401cadddc$ce6af4a0$6b40dde0$@net> > I am hearing this as well. No details yet; I'm traveling (again) at a > family event near NYC. I understand there will be something in the > Globe > in the morning. Looks like it's because of his relentless bashing of the station/company: http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/04/wrko_suspends_t_1.htm l Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From rac@gabrielmass.com Fri Apr 16 23:35:22 2010 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:35:22 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr suspended??? In-Reply-To: <4BC92748.50908@fybush.com> References: <20100417002754.366E11E5D97@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <4BC92748.50908@fybush.com> Message-ID: <4BC92C7A.7080902@server4.gabrielmass.com> The article says that the suspension is "effective Friday". Meaning next Friday? Or is he just suspended on the week when he'd normally be out anyway? As far as mutual respect goes, Thursday I thought that Charlie Manning was a bit cavalier when he urged listeners to go and watch the British PM debate on C-SPAN at 3 p.m., and didn't sign off with any mention of Howie. --RC From dave@skywaves.net Fri Apr 16 23:36:43 2010 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:36:43 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr suspended??? In-Reply-To: <4BC92748.50908@fybush.com> References: <20100417002754.366E11E5D97@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <4BC92748.50908@fybush.com> Message-ID: <4FE3AE41C69B496793C695B422DF25DF@dave> http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2010/04/17/wrko_suspends_carr_for_barbs_against_station/ Including a quote from Donna... -------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Fybush" Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:13 PM To: "Donna Halper" Cc: Subject: Re: Howie Carr suspended??? > > Donna Halper wrote: >> I just heard a hot rumour from a usually good source that Howie has been >> suspended. Anybody know anything????? >> >> > > I am hearing this as well. No details yet; I'm traveling (again) at a > family event near NYC. I understand there will be something in the Globe > in the morning. > > s > > From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Sat Apr 17 13:43:33 2010 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Howie Carr suspended In-Reply-To: <20100417002754.366E11E5D97@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <737032.58351.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 4/16/10, Donna Halper wrote: In the Globe article, both the reporter and Donna Halper say that Entercom "let" Limbaugh go to another station. But I thought it had no choice -- that Clear Channel controlled the syndication? From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Apr 17 13:47:31 2010 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:47:31 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr suspended??? In-Reply-To: <4FE3AE41C69B496793C695B422DF25DF@dave> References: <20100417002754.366E11E5D97@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com><4BC92748.50908@fybush.com> <4FE3AE41C69B496793C695B422DF25DF@dave> Message-ID: <8CCAC6D300905C3-1040-12951@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> Surprisingly nothing in Howie's own paper yet, the Herald. Dan Kennedy's blog suggests there may be more to this (is RKO taking some listeners away from WEEI? if so would they consider format change if talk doesn't cut it?) There is debate as to whether or not Rush got high ratings at RKO. It was said in the past that he and Howie were the two highest rated but it has also been said that Rush wasn't strong here. Depending on whom you ask, Rush was either grabbed away from them by Premiere/CC or they decided to give him up and go local. Whatever, Howie has lost the Rush lead in. Howie did finish #1 in one period a yr or two ago, I think, and tends to be strong. http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/04/17/is-there-more-to-howies-suspension/ Kennedy: "No doubt the company wants WRKO to make money, but not at the expense of its more-valuable sports station." Would they ditch talk and go for something else? Oldies (the big 68!), Spanish, ESPN (though that may take some listeners away from WEEI, but ESPN wants to be on full time in town) From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sat Apr 17 14:05:11 2010 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:05:11 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr suspended??? References: <20100417002754.366E11E5D97@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com><4BC92748.50908@fybush.com><4FE3AE41C69B496793C695B422DF25DF@dave> <8CCAC6D300905C3-1040-12951@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <6346A973E09D43998A918540D1FEAAF0@s20035> >> It was said in the past that he and Howie were the two highest rated but it has also been said that Rush wasn't strong here. Depending on whom you ask, Rush was either grabbed away from them by Premiere/CC or they decided to give him up and go local. Whatever, Howie has lost the Rush lead in. Howie did finish #1 in one period a yr or two ago, I think, and tends to be strong. << I think that's the question. Even if Limbaugh's ratings are/were waning.....he's a much stronger "lead-in" than Charlie Manning. Look what happenned on TV to local affilliate newscasts when Leno was on at 10PM. The networks claimed they didn't have to have "top ratings" at 10PM to make money.....but it affected the affilliates 11PM billing...and that in the end was what did in Leno at 10PM. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Apr 17 17:06:59 2010 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:06:59 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr suspended In-Reply-To: <737032.58351.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <20100417002754.366E11E5D97@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <737032.58351.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100417210704.0D07E1B40AC@relay32.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 01:43 PM 4/17/2010, Martin Waters wrote: >--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Donna Halper wrote: > > In the Globe article, both the reporter and Donna Halper say > that Entercom "let" Limbaugh go to another station. But I thought > it had no choice -- that Clear Channel controlled the syndication? They do control it, but the sense I got was that if Entercom had been willing to pay the amount of money CCU wanted, Limbaugh's show would have stayed on WRKO. Entercom felt it wasn't worth what they believed was an outrageous amount to renew the contract, or so I was told. From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Apr 18 01:16:58 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 01:16:58 -0400 Subject: [Boston_Progressive_Talk] Carr Suspended for a week In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BCA95CA.6104.828583@joe.attorneyross.com> On 17 Apr 2010 at 22:44, Amy wrote: > http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2010/04/17/wrko_suspends_carr_ > for_barbs_against_station/ > > Too bad they can't suspend him for a lifetime. Maybe he's working on that. After all, if they wouldn't let him out of his contract, maybe his strategy is to get himself fired. Then he'd be a free agent. Trouble is, I'd be willing to bet that there's some clause(s) or other in his contract that prevents him from getting away with that. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Sun Apr 18 07:07:43 2010 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (revdoug1@myfairpoint.net) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 07:07:43 -0400 Subject: [Boston_Progressive_Talk] Carr Suspended for a week Message-ID: <20100418070743.sn3vup1zyewwgkcs@webmail.myfairpoint.net> I'm sure you're right. What's more, Entercom is over a barrel: Howie is the most popular personality on their struggling station. I'm not surprised he's been suspended --- I'm astounded by what he says about his employer on the air --- but it amounts to little more than a slap on the wrist. Side question: When Howie was preparing to leave 'RKO for WTKK, wsn't there some concern that he wouldn't be able to continue broadcasting on his regional "network"? I'm not sure where "Entercom entity" ends and "intellectual property" begins here. I would think that if he were to leave, he could establish contracts with his former "network" stations and set the whole thing up all over again. Am I wrong? -Doug Quoting "A. Joseph Ross" : > On 17 Apr 2010 at 22:44, Amy wrote: > > > http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2010/04/17/wrko_suspends_carr_ > > for_barbs_against_station/ > > > > Too bad they can't suspend him for a lifetime. > > Maybe he's working on that. After all, if they wouldn't let him out > of his contract, maybe his strategy is to get himself fired. Then > he'd be a free agent. > > Trouble is, I'd be willing to bet that there's some clause(s) or > other in his contract that prevents him from getting away with that. > > -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Apr 19 02:11:09 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 02:11:09 -0400 Subject: [Boston_Progressive_Talk] Carr Suspended for a week In-Reply-To: <20100418070743.sn3vup1zyewwgkcs@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20100418070743.sn3vup1zyewwgkcs@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <4BCBF3FD.13478.A4861A@joe.attorneyross.com> On 18 Apr 2010 at 7:07, revdoug1@myfairpoint.net wrote: > Side question: When Howie was preparing to leave 'RKO for WTKK, wsn't > there some concern that he wouldn't be able to continue broadcasting > on his regional "network"? I'm not sure where "Entercom entity" ends > and "intellectual property" begins here. I would think that if he > were to leave, he could establish contracts with his former "network" > stations and set the whole thing up all over again. Am I wrong? Depends entirely on what it says in Carr's contract with the station and the contractual arrangements for the distribution of his show to the regional net. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From attychase@comcast.net Mon Apr 19 15:29:23 2010 From: attychase@comcast.net (Robert S Chase) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:29:23 -0400 Subject: Non competes and Howie Carr References: Message-ID: Joe, I understand what you mean about the contractual provisions regarding distribution but what about the Mass Non Compete Statute For Broadcast Industry vis: Chapter 149: Section 186. Broadcasting industry; non-compete agreements Section 186. Any contract or agreement which creates or establishes the terms of employment for an employee or individual in the broadcasting industry, including, television stations, television networks, radio stations, radio networks, or any entities affiliated with the foregoing, and which restricts the right of such employee or individual to obtain employment in a specified geographic area for a specified period of time after termination of employment of the employee by the employer or by termination of the employment relationship by mutual agreement of the employer and the employee or by termination of the employment relationship by the expiration of the contract or agreement, shall be void and unenforceable with respect to such provision. Whoever violates the provisions of this section shall be liable for reasonable attorneys' fees and costs associated with litigation of an affected employee or individual. I believe this statute was passed after the Jerry Williams situation and directly as a result of all of the legislative leaders getting jobs at RKO, etc. By the way, the only other industry that has that type of clause is nursing and maybe doctors but I've not looked that up.. However Brownbacker and the other business interests in the legislature are trying to get revised non-compete legislation passed that would allow the screw job by employers to be resumed and I expect would repeal . See H&F's site on same http://www.massachusettsnoncompetelaw.com/ I expect that legislation would repeal explicitly or implicitly the broadcast non-compete clause voiding. > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 02:11:09 -0400 > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net > Cc: bri@bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: [Boston_Progressive_Talk] Carr Suspended for a week > Message-ID: <4BCBF3FD.13478.A4861A@joe.attorneyross.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On 18 Apr 2010 at 7:07, revdoug1@myfairpoint.net wrote: > >> Side question: When Howie was preparing to leave 'RKO for WTKK, wsn't >> there some concern that he wouldn't be able to continue broadcasting >> on his regional "network"? I'm not sure where "Entercom entity" ends >> and "intellectual property" begins here. I would think that if he >> were to leave, he could establish contracts with his former "network" >> stations and set the whole thing up all over again. Am I wrong? > > Depends entirely on what it says in Carr's contract with the station > and the contractual arrangements for the distribution of his show to > the regional net. From attychase@comcast.net Mon Apr 19 15:59:50 2010 From: attychase@comcast.net (Robert S Chase) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:59:50 -0400 Subject: Non competes and Howie Carr References: <7F2F1C642E084B43BEB46A809EB90929@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <36B9305EA82547298C292F5466E2FA16@HOMEOFFICE> So he comes back and continues to bad mouth them, at which point will a suspension be consider a termination by the employer? How about if he starts showing up ten minutes late for his show, will they fire him? I don't see an exception for an invited termination, do you? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "Robert S Chase" ; Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 3:39 PM Subject: Re: Non competes and Howie Carr >I think the problem is that none of the three specified methods of > termination of the contract seem to apply to Carr (at least they > didn't apply when his contract was up for renewal on 2007 and he tried > to walk). His contract had not yet expired (hadn't it, in fact, been > recently renewed?). It was not being terminated by mutual agreement, > and Entercom did not terminate it. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Apr 20 00:50:29 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:50:29 -0400 Subject: Non competes and Howie Carr In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <4BCD3295.11337.5810588@joe.attorneyross.com> On 19 Apr 2010 at 15:29, Robert S Chase wrote: > Joe, I understand what you mean about the contractual provisions > regarding distribution but what about the Mass Non Compete Statute For > Broadcast Industry vis: Well, we already saw that the statute doesn't apply to Howie Carr's situation, where his contract didn't prevent him from seeking employment elsewhere, but simply allowed WRKO to match anyone else's offer. Carr could have waited until his contract at WRKO ended before negotiating a deal at WTTK, but he didn't wait, so he had to go back to WRKO. I don't know what other clauses there are in Howie Carr's contract, but I don't think that a clause designed to prevent or penalize Carr from deliberately behaving in a way that would get him fired would run afoul of the statute, so long as it didn't prevent him from seeking employment elsewhere. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Apr 20 00:50:29 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:50:29 -0400 Subject: Non competes and Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <36B9305EA82547298C292F5466E2FA16@HOMEOFFICE> References: , <36B9305EA82547298C292F5466E2FA16@HOMEOFFICE> Message-ID: <4BCD3295.17635.581071E@joe.attorneyross.com> On 19 Apr 2010 at 15:59, Robert S Chase wrote: > So he comes back and continues to bad mouth them, at which point will > a suspension be consider a termination by the employer? How about if > he starts showing up ten minutes late for his show, will they fire > him? I don't see an exception for an invited termination, do you? Since none of us has access to the terms of Carr's contract with WRKO, none of us can see whether or not it has any provisions in case of an invited termination. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Apr 20 00:50:29 2010 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:50:29 -0400 Subject: Non competes and Howie Carr In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <4BCD3295.16846.58107CA@joe.attorneyross.com> On 19 Apr 2010 at 15:29, Robert S Chase wrote: > However Brownbacker and the other business interests in the > legislature are trying to get revised non-compete legislation passed > that would allow the screw job by employers to be resumed and I expect > would repeal . See H&F's site on same > http://www.massachusettsnoncompetelaw.com/ I expect that legislation > would repeal explicitly or implicitly the broadcast non-compete clause > voiding. The latest version of the legislation, as published on that site, contains the following provision: (k) This section may expand, but shall not narrow, the prohibitions imposed by: (1) sections 12X, 74D, 129B, or 135C of chapter 112; (2) section 186 of chapter 149; or (3) applicable industry or other regulation or rules. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Tue Apr 20 02:11:06 2010 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 02:11:06 -0400 Subject: Non competes and Howie Carr References: , <4BCD3295.11337.5810588@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: >> Joe, I understand what you mean about the contractual provisions >> regarding distribution but what about the Mass Non Compete Statute For >> Broadcast Industry vis: The Mass non-compete statute outlaws (renders ineffective) any language that restricts an air talent after the contract expires. The statute removes any restriction on where the artist can work *after* the employment contract period is over In the past, a station would employ someone for say, 2 years...but part of the contract says that they can't work anywhere else for X period of time *after* the contract and his employ ends. The statute eliminates that restrictions after the contract period. > On 19 Apr 2010 at 15:59, Robert S Chase wrote: > >> So he comes back and continues to bad mouth them, at which point will >> a suspension be consider a termination by the employer? How about if >> he starts showing up ten minutes late for his show, will they fire >> him? I don't see an exception for an invited termination, do you? If he did get "fired" for a non-performance issue, rather than be free to go wherever he wants....he might find himself at the other end of a civil suit from Entercom, seeking damages...possibly continuing to restrict him. Just my $.02 knowing some of the players. This is the first time Entercom has hit Howie with something he cares about.....money! From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Wed Apr 21 21:01:01 2010 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (revdoug1@myfairpoint.net) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:01:01 -0400 Subject: Does anybody know someone who . . . Message-ID: <20100421210101.zjqmiq5psurooc00@webmail.myfairpoint.net> I'm writing this to vent my spleen but also because I have a need that I thought perhaps SOMEONE out there might be able to help with. Long story short: I own a 1996 Buick Roadmaster Presidential (wonderful car) with a terrific AM-FM-CD-cassette stereo quadrophonic audio system. Everything works fine except the AM component, which has developed a loose "something". It plays beautifully until the car hits a bump, at which point it'll hear nothing but loud static or a terrible flutter. When I hit a second bump, the problem corrects itself. This cycle repeats . . . and repeats. I've been to several garages and to two car audio shops. The people in the garages haven't been able to fix it, nor has the person at audio shop (1), who thought the problem was the antenna. (It's isn't.) The owner of audio shop (2), the former chief engineer of one of our local radio stations, told me he doesn't want to waste his time trying to fix an AM car radio. Does anyone in the BRI fellowship know of any place between Bangor and Worcester where I might be able to get the thing fixed on the spot, even if I have to wait all day? This has been very frustrating. -Doug From mward@iname.com Wed Apr 21 22:42:00 2010 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:42:00 -0400 Subject: Does anybody know someone who . . . In-Reply-To: <20100421210101.zjqmiq5psurooc00@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20100421210101.zjqmiq5psurooc00@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: I had the same problem with the factory radio in my 1999 Saturn. I ended up replacing the radio with one I bought at a local auto salvage yard. I can't give you any more than that, as I am in Ohio...but maybe it'll send you in the right direction... On Apr 21, 2010 9:03 PM, wrote: I'm writing this to vent my spleen but also because I have a need that I thought perhaps SOMEONE out there might be able to help with. Long story short: I own a 1996 Buick Roadmaster Presidential (wonderful car) with a terrific AM-FM-CD-cassette stereo quadrophonic audio system. Everything works fine except the AM component, which has developed a loose "something". It plays beautifully until the car hits a bump, at which point it'll hear nothing but loud static or a terrible flutter. When I hit a second bump, the problem corrects itself. This cycle repeats . . . and repeats. I've been to several garages and to two car audio shops. The people in the garages haven't been able to fix it, nor has the person at audio shop (1), who thought the problem was the antenna. (It's isn't.) The owner of audio shop (2), the former chief engineer of one of our local radio stations, told me he doesn't want to waste his time trying to fix an AM car radio. Does anyone in the BRI fellowship know of any place between Bangor and Worcester where I might be able to get the thing fixed on the spot, even if I have to wait all day? This has been very frustrating. -Doug From paulranderson@charter.net Wed Apr 21 22:56:28 2010 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:56:28 -0400 Subject: Does anybody know someone who . . . In-Reply-To: <20100421210101.zjqmiq5psurooc00@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20100421210101.zjqmiq5psurooc00@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <73D061B7-D64C-4133-8333-ED3E57408788@charter.net> Doug, I have an aftermarket AM/FM/XM radio from Alpine that has the same problem. A slap from underneath the radio usually takes the place of the second road bump to restore AM reception. I went to Boomer McLoud on Route 101A in Nashua, with an appointment, and they gladly diagnosed it but said they'd have to replace the unit. I chose not to, and paid a modest fee for their time. They appeared to know what they were doing and explained they heard the same thing I did and told me what the problem wasn't and what they believed it was. They didn't tell me AM was a waste of time. I would recommend them. Paul On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:01 PM, revdoug1@myfairpoint.net wrote: > I'm writing this to vent my spleen but also because I have a need that I thought perhaps SOMEONE out there might be able to help with. > > Long story short: I own a 1996 Buick Roadmaster Presidential (wonderful car) with a terrific AM-FM-CD-cassette stereo quadrophonic audio system. Everything works fine except the AM component, which has developed a loose "something". It plays beautifully until the car hits a bump, at which point it'll hear nothing but loud static or a terrible flutter. When I hit a second bump, the problem corrects itself. This cycle repeats . . . and repeats. > > I've been to several garages and to two car audio shops. The people in the garages haven't been able to fix it, nor has the person at audio shop (1), who thought the problem was the antenna. (It's isn't.) The owner of audio shop (2), the former chief engineer of one of our local radio stations, told me he doesn't want to waste his time trying to fix an AM car radio. > > Does anyone in the BRI fellowship know of any place between Bangor and Worcester where I might be able to get the thing fixed on the spot, even if I have to wait all day? This has been very frustrating. > > -Doug > > > > > From lglavin@mail.com Sat Apr 17 14:33:10 2010 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:33:10 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr suspended??? In-Reply-To: <6346A973E09D43998A918540D1FEAAF0@s20035> References: <20100417002754.366E11E5D97@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com><4BC92748.50908@fybush.com><4FE3AE41C69B496793C695B422DF25DF@dave><8CCAC6D300905C3-1040-12951@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> <6346A973E09D43998A918540D1FEAAF0@s20035> Message-ID: <8CCAC7390DF52F0-1894-10255@web-mmc-m09.sysops.aol.com> >-----Original Message----- >From: Don >To: dave@skywaves.net; scott@fybush.com; dlh@donnahalper.com; raccoonradio@mail.com >Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Sent: Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:05 pm >Subject: Re: Howie Carr suspended??? >> >It was said in the past that he and >Howie were the two highest rated but it has also been said that Rush wasn't strong here. Depending on whom you ask, Rush was either grabbed away from them by Premiere/CC or they >decided to give him up and go local. Whatever, Howie has lost the Rush lead in. Howie did finish #1 in one period a yr or two ago, I think, and tends to be strong. << >I think that's the question. Even if Limbaugh's ratings are/were waning.....he's a much stronger "lead-in" than Charlie Manning. >Look what happenned on TV to local affilliate newscasts when Leno was on at 10PM. >The networks claimed they didn't have to have "top ratings" at 10PM to make money.....but it affected the affilliates 11PM billing...and that in the end was what did in Leno at 10PM. On radio-info.com's New England TV board, it was stated that WBZ-DT/TV's ratings soared after they picked up "Wheel of Fortune" and "Jeopardy" from channel 38/39. This led to an improvement of prime-time numbers as well. (Thus it mystifies me why they interfered with the M-F scheduling to air a show about the Patriots football team, even on weekends when the game would be on channels 25/31 or 7/42. ) From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Apr 17 17:33:10 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:33:10 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr suspended References: <20100417002754.366E11E5D97@relay10.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com><737032.58351.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20100417210704.0D07E1B40AC@relay32.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <6452BB211AC54EC88A495D498B7815E5@SatU205S5044> So when will Arbitron reveal how well or how poorly Limbaugh is doing on 1200? I find it hard to believe that, billboards notwithstanding, his ratings on the new station will be as good as those he was getting on WRKO's bigger signal. Those same Arbitrons should also reveal how much, if anything, the loss of the Limbaugh lead-in has affected the size of Carr's audience. Not that Carr was contemplating remaining with Entercom after his contract expires in 2012, but I wonder how much Carr was thinking about how the reduced ratings resulting from the loss of the Limbaugh lead-in would affect the offer Entercom would make him in 2012. Even though he has no intention of remaining with Entercom after 2012, what Entercom offers is likely to affect how much he can get from Greater Media or Clear Channel. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Martin Waters" Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:06 PM Subject: Re: Howie Carr suspended > At 01:43 PM 4/17/2010, Martin Waters wrote: >>--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Donna Halper wrote: >> >> In the Globe article, both the reporter and Donna Halper say >> that Entercom "let" Limbaugh go to another station. But I thought >> it had no choice -- that Clear Channel controlled the syndication? > > They do control it, but the sense I got was that if Entercom had > been willing to pay the amount of money CCU wanted, Limbaugh's show > would have stayed on WRKO. Entercom felt it wasn't worth what they > believed was an outrageous amount to renew the contract, or so I was > told. From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Apr 19 08:23:26 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:23:26 -0400 Subject: Our moderator Message-ID: <1A1FCF2B97C640E9AFB5A4AC65B3D1FB@SatU205S5044> Anyone know whether he has returned from his western trip? The message he sent on April 5, announcing his absence said that he would return on April 14. That was five days ago. I've seen no sign of his return. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Apr 19 15:39:59 2010 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:39:59 -0400 Subject: Non competes and Howie Carr References: Message-ID: <7F2F1C642E084B43BEB46A809EB90929@SatU205S5044> I think the problem is that none of the three specified methods of termination of the contract seem to apply to Carr (at least they didn't apply when his contract was up for renewal on 2007 and he tried to walk). His contract had not yet expired (hadn't it, in fact, been recently renewed?). It was not being terminated by mutual agreement, and Entercom did not terminate it. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert S Chase" To: Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 3:29 PM Subject: Non competes and Howie Carr > > Joe, I understand what you mean about the contractual provisions > regarding distribution but what about the Mass Non Compete Statute > For Broadcast Industry > vis: > > Chapter 149: Section 186. Broadcasting industry; non-compete > agreements > > > Section 186. Any contract or agreement which creates or establishes > the terms of employment for an employee or individual in the > broadcasting industry, including, television stations, television > networks, radio stations, radio networks, or any entities affiliated > with the foregoing, and which restricts the right of such employee > or individual to obtain employment in a specified geographic area > for a specified period of time after termination of employment of > the employee by the employer or by termination of the employment > relationship by mutual agreement of the employer and the employee or > by termination of the employment relationship by the expiration of > the contract or agreement, shall be void and unenforceable with > respect to such provision. Whoever violates the provisions of this > section shall be liable for reasonable attorneys' fees and costs > associated with litigation of an affected employee or individual. > > I believe this statute was passed after the Jerry Williams situation > and directly as a result of all of the legislative leaders getting > jobs at RKO, etc. > > By the way, the only other industry that has that type of clause is > nursing and maybe doctors but I've not looked that up.. > > However Brownbacker and the other business interests in the > legislature are trying to get revised non-compete legislation passed > that would allow the screw job by employers to be resumed and I > expect would repeal . See H&F's site on same > http://www.massachusettsnoncompetelaw.com/ I expect that legislation > would repeal explicitly or implicitly the broadcast non-compete > clause voiding. > >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 02:11:09 -0400 >> From: "A. Joseph Ross" >> To: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net >> Cc: bri@bostonradio.org >> Subject: Re: [Boston_Progressive_Talk] Carr Suspended for a week >> Message-ID: <4BCBF3FD.13478.A4861A@joe.attorneyross.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> >> On 18 Apr 2010 at 7:07, revdoug1@myfairpoint.net wrote: >> >>> Side question: When Howie was preparing to leave 'RKO for WTKK, >>> wsn't >>> there some concern that he wouldn't be able to continue >>> broadcasting >>> on his regional "network"? I'm not sure where "Entercom entity" >>> ends >>> and "intellectual property" begins here. I would think that if he >>> were to leave, he could establish contracts with his former >>> "network" >>> stations and set the whole thing up all over again. Am I wrong? >> >> Depends entirely on what it says in Carr's contract with the >> station >> and the contractual arrangements for the distribution of his show >> to >> the regional net. > > From szaramba@bu.edu Mon Apr 19 17:40:50 2010 From: szaramba@bu.edu (szaramba@bu.edu) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:40:50 -0400 Subject: WJFD-FM 97.3 Message-ID: <20100419174050.lac8ze1s44cc80sg@www.bu.edu> Hey all. First time mailing to this list, and I'm not a radio expert, so forgive me if I say something stupid. I'm a BU journalism student working on a story about WJFD, the Portuguese-language radio station formerly owned by Edmund Dinis, who died last month. I'm looking for anyone who might know anything about the station--I've already spoken at length with some people from the station itself. If you have any knowledge of WJFD at all, even if you're just a fan, I'd be happy to get into contact with you. Scott Zaramba Boston University 2011 College of Communication From lglavin@mail.com Wed Apr 21 14:30:14 2010 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:30:14 -0400 Subject: W242AA Message-ID: <8CCAF97D167DF73-12C8-8C98@web-mmc-d07.sysops.aol.com> Recently, I've noticed that 99.5 all-Classical WCRB has occasionally added W242AA, Beacon Hill to its list of outlets at station ID time. It's usually just "WCRB, Lowell...WNCK, Nantucket and WGBH-HD2. I've been informed that the rules for translators don't require station ID every hour, so the only W242AA IDs occur several hours apart daily. When the WGBH takeover of WCRB occurred, apparently the translator on 96.3 atop the same building with the WMBR transmitter in Cambridge continued to simulcast the parent WGBH-FM 89.7. No more...I was in Boston Tuesday night, and my travels took me right into the path of W242AA's mighty signal (FIVE watts directional...aimed from ENE to ESE @ about 300 feet). Sure enough, the programming WAS the same as WCRB 99.5, but about 30 seconds or more later! The only timepieces with me were my cell phone and dashboard clock, both in 1-minute increments. If I had brought my watch with its sweep hand counting the seconds, I might have been able to determine the exact number of seconds in the delay, and would perhaps have rearended another automobile. I don't know if any BRIGger gets a reliable signal from both WCRB and W242AA, and therefore might be able to determine exactly how many seconds later the audio from 99.5 pops up on 96.3. Throughout its history, W242AA has simulcast the music on WGBH, along with the news and discussion shows. Now that it's apparently going to be ALL classical music, will its current signal provide satisfactory levels of quieting required for such fare? Or, since the letters 'AA' occur in its call letters, will it seek a higher power some day? From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Apr 22 00:17:05 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:17:05 -0400 Subject: Our moderator In-Reply-To: <1A1FCF2B97C640E9AFB5A4AC65B3D1FB@SatU205S5044> References: <1A1FCF2B97C640E9AFB5A4AC65B3D1FB@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <19407.52673.485955.413853@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Anyone know whether he has returned from his western trip? The message > he sent on April 5, announcing his absence said that he would return > on April 14. That was five days ago. I've seen no sign of his return. You don't necessarily see signs of my presence unless I have something to say. For the past week I've been recovering from vacation; perhaps by this weekend I'll have something more to report. (Actually, I hope I'll have some new audio up from the trip later today. The 751 photographs, however, are part of a backlog that now numbers over 9,000.) At least I'm not planning on going anywhere in the next several months. Maybe, just maybe, I can finish off my Little Lakes and Tall Towers trip from last September and get on to San Francisco from January, the WTAG open house, and L.A. from this month. After that, it's probably working my way backwards through upstate New York (July), New York City (also July), Chicago (June), Atlanta (February), and some local stuff (January). I think I've been traveling too much lately. -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Apr 22 00:38:20 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:38:20 -0400 Subject: W242AA In-Reply-To: <8CCAF97D167DF73-12C8-8C98@web-mmc-d07.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCAF97D167DF73-12C8-8C98@web-mmc-d07.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <19407.53948.496340.744450@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < Recently, I've noticed that 99.5 all-Classical WCRB has occasionally > added W242AA, Beacon Hill to its list of outlets at station ID time. > It's usually just "WCRB, Lowell...WNCK, Nantucket and WGBH-HD2. > I've been informed that the rules for translators don't require > station ID every hour, so the only W242AA IDs occur several hours > apart daily. When the WGBH takeover of WCRB occurred, apparently > the translator on 96.3 atop the same building with the WMBR > transmitter in Cambridge continued to simulcast the parent WGBH-FM > 89.7. No more...I was in Boston Tuesday night, and my travels took > me right into the path of W242AA's mighty signal (FIVE watts > directional...aimed from ENE to ESE @ about 300 feet). Sure enough, > the programming WAS the same as WCRB 99.5, but about 30 seconds or > more later! W242AA, being in the commercial ("non-reserved") band and owned by the primary station's licensee, must be within the 60 dBu contour of the primary. WCRB's 60 does not quite make it to Eastgate. The reason you hear a 30-second delay is that W242AA is relaying WGBH's HD2, not WCRB. (I'd be curious to hear if W242AA is actually running HD, and if so, whether its HD2 is WGBH's HD1 -- I believe the Commission at least tacitly allows this.) When translator legal IDs are being done audibly, by the primary station, the rules specify the times at which they are to occur: (1) Between 7 and 9 AM, (2) Between 12:55 and 1:05 PM, and (3) Between 4 and 6 PM. Stations which are not on the air before 9 AM must identify the translators at sign-on. In practice, stations satisfy these requirements (or attempt to do so) by identifying translators the 8a, 1p, and 5p, assuming they don't do the ID every hour. This allows the relgious satellator networks to do a different set of translator ID at 8a (8 Eastern), 9a (8 Central), 10a (8 Mountain), 11a (8 Pacific), and 12n (8 Alaska), although there are possible issues with Arizona (MST year-round), Hawaii (HST year-round, 8a overlaps with 1p EDT window), and Guam (ChST year-round, 8a overlaps with 5p CDT window), not to mention the usual confusion in Indiana. But I've never heard of a translator getting cited for identifying at 1p ET when it was in a part of Indiana that should have identified at 1p CT. See 47 CFR 74.1283. It is interesting that you report WCRB is now identifying W242AA; I had come to the conclusion that they were doing an FSK ID, since WGBH had never identified it at the required times before. I shall have to grab a new one now for the Archives. -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Apr 22 00:40:57 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:40:57 -0400 Subject: Our moderator In-Reply-To: <19407.52673.485955.413853@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <1A1FCF2B97C640E9AFB5A4AC65B3D1FB@SatU205S5044> <19407.52673.485955.413853@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <19407.54105.873695.415432@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < Maybe, just maybe, I can finish off my Little Lakes and Tall Towers > trip from last September and get on to San Francisco from January, > the WTAG open house, and L.A. from this month. And I forgot Washington from last month. Yeesh! > I think I've been traveling too much lately. I'm certain that I've been traveling too much lately if I can't even remember where I've been in the past year without electronic assistance. -GAWollman From irw@well.com Thu Apr 22 00:53:44 2010 From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: W242AA In-Reply-To: <19407.53948.496340.744450@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <8CCAF97D167DF73-12C8-8C98@web-mmc-d07.sysops.aol.com> <19407.53948.496340.744450@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Garrett Wollman wrote: > not to mention the usual confusion in Indiana. 80 Indiana counties are "always Eastern." 12 Indiana counties are "always Central." Nebraska and South Dakota are more split than we are. :-) - Blaine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blaine Thompson Indiana RadioWatch irw@well.com http://www.indianaradio.net AOL Instant Messenger: indianaradio5 From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Apr 22 01:55:20 2010 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 01:55:20 -0400 Subject: W242AA In-Reply-To: References: <8CCAF97D167DF73-12C8-8C98@web-mmc-d07.sysops.aol.com> <19407.53948.496340.744450@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <19407.58568.469045.111691@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> not to mention the usual confusion in Indiana. > 80 Indiana counties are "always Eastern." > 12 Indiana counties are "always Central." Except, of course, that it was not always thus, and broadcasters from Idaho or California might be forgiven, just this once, for not carefully watching the Department of Transportation section of the Federal Register for notice that yet another county has decided that it doesn't like its current time zone and wants to switch. (Of course, all of Indiana ought to be on Central Time, for reasons of simple geography, and this battle should have been fought out over Ohio.) The editors of the time zone database note: # From Paul Eggert (2007-08-17): # Since 1970, most of Indiana has been like America/Indiana/Indianapolis, # with the following exceptions: # # - Gibson, Jasper, Lake, LaPorte, Newton, Porter, Posey, Spencer, # Vandenburgh, and Warrick counties have been like America/Chicago. # # - Dearborn and Ohio counties have been like America/New_York. # # - Clark, Floyd, and Harrison counties have been like # America/Kentucky/Louisville. # # - Crawford, Daviess, Dubois, Knox, Martin, Perry, Pike, Pulaski, Starke, # and Switzerland counties have their own time zone histories as noted below. # # Shanks partitioned Indiana into 345 regions, each with its own time history, # and wrote ``Even newspaper reports present contradictory information.'' # Those Hoosiers! Such a flighty and changeable people! # Fortunately, most of the complexity occurred before our cutoff date of 1970. They then go on to note: # Eastern Crawford County, Indiana, left its clocks alone in 1974, # as well as from 1976 through 2005. # Daviess, Dubois, Knox, and Martin Counties, Indiana, # switched from eastern to central time in April 2006, then switched back # in November 2007. # Perry County, Indiana, switched from eastern to central time in April 2006. # Pike County, Indiana moved from central to eastern time in 1977, # then switched back in 2006, then switched back again in 2007. # Starke County, Indiana moved from central to eastern time in 1991, # then switched back in 2006. # Pulaski County, Indiana, switched from eastern to central time in # April 2006 and then switched back in March 2007. # Switzerland County, Indiana, did not observe DST from 1973 through 2005. # Part of Kentucky left its clocks alone in 1974. # This also includes Clark, Floyd, and Harrison counties in Indiana. -GAWollman From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Thu Apr 22 05:56:25 2010 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:56:25 -0400 Subject: Does anybody know someone who . . . References: <20100421210101.zjqmiq5psurooc00@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <1B20F23CF88D4216B034BC6A97323CB8@YOURbcbbe822ed> Hi Doug: I found these two listings of EBAY. I hope they might help Big difference is prices. Good luck Sounds as if it's broken circuit board issues. cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-1996-Buick-Roadmaster-Regal-Lesabre-Radio-Cassette_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dLVIQ26ituQ3dUCIQ26otnQ3d3Q26poQ3dLVIQ26psQ3d63Q26clkidQ3d9057055327308912015QQ_trksidZp3286Q2em7QQcategoryZ43961QQihZ001QQitemZ110419047437#ht_3699wt_1050 cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1996-BUICK-ROADMASTER-AM-FM-TAPE-CD-PLAYER-RADIO_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dLVIQ26ituQ3dUCIQ26otnQ3d3Q26poQ3dLVIQ26psQ3d63Q26clkidQ3d9057030771692447590QQ_trksidZp3286Q2em7QQcategoryZ38644QQihZ017QQitemZ270565413733#ht_5163wt_911 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Ward" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:42 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody know someone who . . . >I had the same problem with the factory radio in my 1999 Saturn. > > I ended up replacing the radio with one I bought at a local auto salvage > yard. > > I can't give you any more than that, as I am in Ohio...but maybe it'll > send > you in the right direction... > > On Apr 21, 2010 9:03 PM, wrote: > > I'm writing this to vent my spleen but also because I have a need that I > thought perhaps SOMEONE out there might be able to help with. > > Long story short: I own a 1996 Buick Roadmaster Presidential (wonderful > car) with a terrific AM-FM-CD-cassette stereo quadrophonic audio system. > Everything works fine except the AM component, which has developed a loose > "something". It plays beautifully until the car hits a bump, at which > point > it'll hear nothing but loud static or a terrible flutter. When I hit a > second bump, the problem corrects itself. This cycle repeats . . . and > repeats. > > I've been to several garages and to two car audio shops. The people in > the > garages haven't been able to fix it, nor has the person at audio shop (1), > who thought the problem was the antenna. (It's isn't.) The owner of audio > shop (2), the former chief engineer of one of our local radio stations, > told > me he doesn't want to waste his time trying to fix an AM car radio. > > Does anyone in the BRI fellowship know of any place between Bangor and > Worcester where I might be able to get the thing fixed on the spot, even > if > I have to wait all day? This has been very frustrating. > > -Doug > > From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Thu Apr 22 05:56:25 2010 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:56:25 -0400 Subject: Does anybody know someone who . . . References: <20100421210101.zjqmiq5psurooc00@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <1B20F23CF88D4216B034BC6A97323CB8@YOURbcbbe822ed> Hi Doug: I found these two listings of EBAY. I hope they might help Big difference is prices. Good luck Sounds as if it's broken circuit board issues. cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-1996-Buick-Roadmaster-Regal-Lesabre-Radio-Cassette_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dLVIQ26ituQ3dUCIQ26otnQ3d3Q26poQ3dLVIQ26psQ3d63Q26clkidQ3d9057055327308912015QQ_trksidZp3286Q2em7QQcategoryZ43961QQihZ001QQitemZ110419047437#ht_3699wt_1050 cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1996-BUICK-ROADMASTER-AM-FM-TAPE-CD-PLAYER-RADIO_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dLVIQ26ituQ3dUCIQ26otnQ3d3Q26poQ3dLVIQ26psQ3d63Q26clkidQ3d9057030771692447590QQ_trksidZp3286Q2em7QQcategoryZ38644QQihZ017QQitemZ270565413733#ht_5163wt_911 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Ward" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:42 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody know someone who . . . >I had the same problem with the factory radio in my 1999 Saturn. > > I ended up replacing the radio with one I bought at a local auto salvage > yard. > > I can't give you any more than that, as I am in Ohio...but maybe it'll > send > you in the right direction... > > On Apr 21, 2010 9:03 PM, wrote: > > I'm writing this to vent my spleen but also because I have a need that I > thought perhaps SOMEONE out there might be able to help with. > > Long story short: I own a 1996 Buick Roadmaster Presidential (wonderful > car) with a terrific AM-FM-CD-cassette stereo quadrophonic audio system. > Everything works fine except the AM component, which has developed a loose > "something". It plays beautifully until the car hits a bump, at which > point > it'll hear nothing but loud static or a terrible flutter. When I hit a > second bump, the problem corrects itself. This cycle repeats . . . and > repeats. > > I've been to several garages and to two car audio shops. The people in > the > garages haven't been able to fix it, nor has the person at audio shop (1), > who thought the problem was the antenna. (It's isn't.) The owner of audio > shop (2), the former chief engineer of one of our local radio stations, > told > me he doesn't want to waste his time trying to fix an AM car radio. > > Does anyone in the BRI fellowship know of any place between Bangor and > Worcester where I might be able to get the thing fixed on the spot, even > if > I have to wait all day? This has been very frustrating. > > -Doug > > From friedbagels@gmail.com Thu Apr 22 11:06:50 2010 From: friedbagels@gmail.com (Aaron Read) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:06:50 -0400 Subject: W242AA Message-ID: <4BD0660A.5060204@gmail.com> (I'd be curious to hear if W242AA is actually running HD, and if so, whether its HD2 is WGBH's HD1 -- I believe the Commission at least tacitly allows this.) ----------- According to the CDBS, they're still analog only. http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/sta_det.pl?Facility_id=72093 In fact, there are only two translators in the country that broadcast HD Radio: ours (W212BA) and W294AE in Altoona, PA. (I think there's a one in Utah that's still technically running a Larcan prototype so it was never officially licensed as digital, just via STA) Technically there are more on-channel boosters in HD (KCSN-FM1, KDFC-FM2, and KPHT-FM1) than translators. I honestly didn't think ANYONE was running a booster in HD yet, although note that all three of those boosters are high-wattage (at least 1000w ERP) I would find it hard to believe that WGBH would ever move W242AA to HD Radio...the ERP is so low that even at -10dB digital injection, it'd be a tiny coverage area. And since to relay an HD2 on the main, you'd need a separate exporter - which means a separate iBiquity License - that's an awful lot of money to spend on something with such limited ROI. The only reason we took W212BA into HD was because we had a CPB grant to help pay for one of those frequency-shifting translators that doesn't require a new iBiquity License because it's just taking the existing signal (received OTA) and spitting it back out on a different freq. Of course, since with a frequency shift, the translator is running the exact same signal as the primary station. So you couldn't relay an HD2 signal on your main channel the way WGBH is doing. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron Read | Finger Lakes Public Radio friedbagels@gmail.com | General Manager (WEOS & WHWS-LP) Geneva, NY 14456 | www.weos.org / www.whws.fm From elipolo@earthlink.net Sat Apr 24 02:03:56 2010 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 02:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: W242AA Message-ID: <15280349.1272089036853.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> A number of times over the winter when I was in the MIT East Campus/Kendall Square area, I had checked W242AA on my Insignia HD walkman-type portable, and it was indeed broadcasting in HD. The HD signal was so weak that even a few blocks from the tower, I was only getting the HD icon blinking, meaning it was detecting a HD signal, but it was too weak to fully lock on to the HD. It kept trying to load the HD signal, but failed. At MIT I was in the directional "null", perhaps if I had walked over and stood on the Longfellow Bridge I may have been able to get it in full HD. Since I couldn't get it to lock in to HD, I could not tell whether there were any multicast channels. I tried it again a few weeks ago, and W242AA seems to be no longer in HD, there was no more blinking HD icon, so I don't know what's up with it. EP From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Apr 24 08:53:39 2010 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 08:53:39 -0400 Subject: W242AA In-Reply-To: <15280349.1272089036853.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15280349.1272089036853.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <005d01cae3ad$296f7c60$7c4e7520$@net> > A number of times over the winter when I was in > the MIT East Campus/Kendall Square area, I had > checked W242AA on my Insignia HD walkman-type > portable, and it was indeed broadcasting in HD. Could it be that it's not really broadcasting in HD itself, but that it's just passing through some of the sidebands from the source enough to make the HD light flash? Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From dillane@sbcglobal.net Sat Apr 24 09:35:47 2010 From: dillane@sbcglobal.net (Bill Dillane) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:35:47 -0400 Subject: YouTube: Ask The Manager - Station Tour Message-ID: <031201cae3b3$0c2a9990$247fccb0$@net> This Ask The Manager from 1981 featured a tour of TV38. Part 1 of 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBlKyCJAJZ0 Part 2 of 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaBeqZNmrV4 From elipolo@earthlink.net Sat Apr 24 16:37:37 2010 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:37:37 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: W242AA Message-ID: <31968677.1272141457634.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> -----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Lehmann >Sent: Apr 24, 2010 8:53 AM >To: 'Eli Polonsky' , > boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Cc: 'Aaron Read' >Subject: RE: W242AA > >> A number of times over the winter when I was in >> the MIT East Campus/Kendall Square area, I had >> checked W242AA on my Insignia HD walkman-type >> portable, and it was indeed broadcasting in HD. > >Could it be that it's not really broadcasting in >HD itself, but that it's just passing through some >of the sidebands from the source enough to make the >HD light flash? Jeff, I don't think that was what was happening. It acted just like when it's detecting HD on a somewhat distant station that I know is actually in HD, but it can't get a strong enough signal to "load" it completely. Even though I was near the tower, the 5 watt signal (in the null, too) was so weak that I was only getting a few "bars" on the signal strength meter on the display. It normally takes a full "bar" signal on the meter to make it fully "load" HD. EP From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Sat Apr 24 18:35:06 2010 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:35:06 +0000 Subject: W242AA Message-ID: <4BD3721A.90309@Gmail.com> Eli Polonsky wrote, >> From: Jeff Lehmann >> Could it be that it's not really broadcasting in >> HD itself, but that it's just passing through some >> of the sidebands from the source enough to make the >> HD light flash? > Jeff, I don't think that was what was happening. > It acted just like when it's detecting HD on a > somewhat distant station that I know is actually > in HD, but it can't get a strong enough signal > to "load" it completely. Even though I was near > the tower, the 5 watt signal (in the null, too) > was so weak that I was only getting a few "bars" > on the signal strength meter on the display. Another possibility: I don't know if it is the same as with analog, but could you have actually been picking up image overload (whatever the HD equivalent is) from a Pru HD signal(s)? ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Apr 24 22:37:43 2010 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:37:43 -0400 Subject: Worc. pirate station losing its "Flava" Message-ID: <8CCB2376A7E9DFD-7DC-7C38@web-mmc-d08.sysops.aol.com> http://www.telegram.com/article/20100424/NEWS/4240344/1116 The FCC wants to shut down Flava 105.5, a pirate station in Worcester. There's a quote from Ben Parker of WPKZ (formerly of WRKO) which recently began simulcasting AM 1280 on 105.3...people want to hear Red Sox games, etc., but instead get an illegal broadcaster. >>?I'm not sure how much they were affecting us, but we might have lost a little audience at our southern end. It's fine if it's just on the Internet, but when you've got a radio station like ours that pays the fees, has a license, follows the rules, pirate stations like this shouldn't be allowed to crowd our signal.? I'll add that tonight as I drove north on the Southeast Expressway I was trying to get the Sox on FM, with 103.7 WEEI (I had my XM plugged in and knew it would interfere with the AM signal of WEEI). Guess what: some pirate station at 103.7 instead. Admittedly this area is more than a few miles from Westerly, RI but it still was blocking a receivable signal. From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Apr 25 12:45:57 2010 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: W242AA Message-ID: <33159018.1272213957799.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Eli Polonsky wrote, >>> From: Jeff Lehmann >> Jeff, I don't think that was what was happening. >> It acted just like when it's detecting HD on a >> somewhat distant station that I know is actually >> in HD, but it can't get a strong enough signal >> to "load" it completely. Even though I was near >> the tower, the 5 watt signal (in the null, too) >> was so weak that I was only getting a few "bars" >> on the signal strength meter on the display. > > Another possibility: I don't know if it is the > same as with analog, but could you have actually > been picking up image overload (whatever the HD > equivalent is) from a Pru HD signal(s)? Image overload, or intermodulation, from strong but off-frequency HD stations does not seem to activate HD at all. Whenever I hear off-frequency intermod from Pru stations in analog on the unit, even if it's all coming in very strong, it never activates the HD, which appears to respond only if it is receiving HD on the correct originating frequency as a clean signal, alone, with nothing else whatsoever interfering with it. Since image overload (intermodulation) usually is caused by a combination of signals (which you often hear superimposed on top of one another in analog), it doesn't activate the HD because it's not discerning just one HD that it can "load". It's not the same thing as the analog intermodulation activating analog stereo pilot lights. If I'm already listening in HD-only mode, say to a multicast HD2 or HD3 station with no analog, and the receiver is moved into an area where it encounters intermodulation from other stations overcoming the HD station that I'm listening to, the receiver will simply go silent and the HD light will go off. After a number of seconds, the receiver may revert to analog mode and I'll hear the pig-pile of off-frequency stations in intermodulation, but the HD will not activate in that situation regardless of their strength. Another thing that confirmed to me that the HD signal causing the light to blink was actually coming from W242AA was whenever I moved the unit to where W242AA was coming in even weaker, the HD light stopped blinking entirely. The HD light blinked whenever I moved to where I was getting the strongest, cleanest analog reception on it, but still not strong enough to fully "load" it. EP From friedbagels@gmail.com Mon Apr 26 11:45:48 2010 From: friedbagels@gmail.com (Aaron Read) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:45:48 -0400 Subject: W242AA In-Reply-To: <15280349.1272089036853.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15280349.1272089036853.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4BD5B52C.1030500@gmail.com> Eli Polonsky wrote: > The HD signal was so weak that even a few blocks > from the tower, I was only getting the HD icon > blinking, meaning it was detecting a HD signal, > but it was too weak to fully lock on to the HD. > It kept trying to load the HD signal, but failed. > (snip) > I tried it again a few weeks ago, and W242AA seems > to be no longer in HD, there was no more blinking > HD icon, so I don't know what's up with it. > @Jeff: if W242AA is relaying the HD2 audio of WGBH, then by definition no HD carriers can be "passed through" because WGBH HD signal is being decoded to audio and then fed into an audio input of W242AA's transmitter. (possibly with an audio processor inbetween) @Eli: I would suspect that you were getting digital carriers from either adjacent-channel WSRS out of Worcester or co-channel WEII out of Dennis. Both have pretty monster signals that would ordinarily come in fairly well in Kendall Square if it weren't for W242AA. It's entirely possible for a digital signal to start to overlay an analog-only one; I've seen it happen...the radio starts on the analog station and then suddenly blends to the digital one. Or maybe WGBH really did drop a dime on a new HD Exporter for W242AA. But if they did, they never notified the FCC about it and, AFAIK, FM translators still require digital notification. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron Read | Finger Lakes Public Radio friedbagels@gmail.com | General Manager (WEOS & WHWS-LP) Geneva, NY 14456 | www.weos.org / www.whws.fm From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Apr 26 11:49:50 2010 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:49:50 -0400 Subject: W242AA In-Reply-To: <4BD5B52C.1030500@gmail.com> References: <15280349.1272089036853.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4BD5B52C.1030500@gmail.com> Message-ID: I can attest to what Aaron is saying - listening to 97.7 in the very small WYAJ service area, my radio will switch back and forth between WYAJ's analog signal and 97.7 WKAF's digital carriers. -Bob On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Aaron Read wrote: > Eli Polonsky wrote: > >> The HD signal was so weak that even a few blocks >> from the tower, I was only getting the HD icon blinking, meaning it was >> detecting a HD signal, >> but it was too weak to fully lock on to the HD. >> It kept trying to load the HD signal, but failed. >> (snip) I tried it again a few weeks ago, and W242AA seems >> to be no longer in HD, there was no more blinking HD icon, so I don't know >> what's up with it. >> >> > @Jeff: if W242AA is relaying the HD2 audio of WGBH, then by definition no > HD carriers can be "passed through" because WGBH HD signal is being decoded > to audio and then fed into an audio input of W242AA's transmitter. > (possibly with an audio processor inbetween) > > @Eli: I would suspect that you were getting digital carriers from either > adjacent-channel WSRS out of Worcester or co-channel WEII out of Dennis. > Both have pretty monster signals that would ordinarily come in fairly well > in Kendall Square if it weren't for W242AA. It's entirely possible for a > digital signal to start to overlay an analog-only one; I've seen it > happen...the radio starts on the analog station and then suddenly blends to > the digital one. > > Or maybe WGBH really did drop a dime on a new HD Exporter for W242AA. But > if they did, they never notified the FCC about it and, AFAIK, FM translators > still require digital notification. > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Aaron Read | Finger Lakes Public Radio > friedbagels@gmail.com | General Manager (WEOS & WHWS-LP) > Geneva, NY 14456 | www.weos.org / www.whws.fm > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Mon Apr 26 12:14:50 2010 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:14:50 -0400 Subject: W242AA In-Reply-To: <4BD5B52C.1030500@gmail.com> References: <15280349.1272089036853.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4BD5B52C.1030500@gmail.com> Message-ID: 96.3 WEII does not run HD, so it wouldn't have been that. Jeff Lehmann >> > @Jeff: if W242AA is relaying the HD2 audio of WGBH, then by > definition no HD carriers can be "passed through" because WGBH HD > signal is being decoded to audio and then fed into an audio input of > W242AA's transmitter. (possibly with an audio processor inbetween) > > @Eli: I would suspect that you were getting digital carriers from > either adjacent-channel WSRS out of Worcester or co-channel WEII out > of Dennis. Both have pretty monster signals that would ordinarily > come in fairly well in Kendall Square if it weren't for W242AA. > It's entirely possible for a digital signal to start to overlay an > analog-only one; I've seen it happen...the radio starts on the > analog station and then suddenly blends to the digital one. > From elipolo@earthlink.net Mon Apr 26 12:45:29 2010 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:45:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: W242AA Message-ID: <27099774.1272300329747.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> -----Original Message----- >From: Aaron Read >Sent: Apr 26, 2010 11:45 AM >To: Eli Polonsky >Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: W242AA > >Eli Polonsky wrote: >> The HD signal was so weak that even a few blocks >> from the tower, I was only getting the HD icon >> blinking, meaning it was detecting a HD signal, >> but it was too weak to fully lock on to the HD. >> It kept trying to load the HD signal, but failed. >> (snip) >> I tried it again a few weeks ago, and W242AA seems >> to be no longer in HD, there was no more blinking >> HD icon, so I don't know what's up with it. >> > >@Eli: I would suspect that you were getting digital >carriers from either adjacent-channel WSRS out of >Worcester or co-channel WEII out of Dennis. Both >have pretty monster signals that would ordinarily >come in fairly well in Kendall Square if it weren't >for W242AA. It's entirely possible for a digital >signal to start to overlay an analog-only one; >I've seen it happen...the radio starts on the >analog station and then suddenly blends to the >digital one. That's not what's happening. The Insignia portable is not sensitive enough to get any sign of the HD icon on WSRS anywhere in the metro-Boston area. I have been in places away from W242AA, with higher ground and better reception, where I can hear the analog WSRS on the Insignia, but it won't get any HD icon at all from WSRS until I'm well to the west of Route 128. WEII is even less likely. The area in Kendall Square is low-lying and somewhat surrounded by concrete and metal buildings, plus the intermod and desensitization caused by the Pru directly across the Charles. Not a favorable place for out-of-town reception. I can (barely) get my Sangean HD home tuner to go into HD on WSRS from the west facing hill that I live on in Somerville, but even in that location the Insignia portable will barely get WSRS at all in analog. It's certainly not getting HD from WSRS in low-lying, building-surrounded Kendall Square. There was no aural evidence of blending at all when I heard W242AA in Kendall Square with the HD light blinking. It was still receiving analog, a clean but weak signal from W242AA, no blending with anything else. The Insignia does not activate HD from adjacent channel bleed-over no matter how strong the audio of the bleed appears. The light only activates when it senses HD on the frequency it's tuned to. Bleed-over from an adjacent strong station will turn off the HD even if that station broadcasts in HD regardless of the bleed-over strength. When it locks into HD, it can not receive any blending with anything else. If other stations blend with the HD station being listened to, first it will go out of HD into analog, and the indicator will turn off. Then, you'll hear the blending in analog, but not before the unit has lost and deactivated the HD. The light does not seem to come on at all when it's receiving a blending situation. It seems to need a clean singular HD signal to activate the HD light >Or maybe WGBH really did drop a dime on a new >HD Exporter for W242AA. But if they did, they >never notified the FCC about it and, AFAIK, FM >translators still require digital notification. Perhaps that may be why it was no longer in HD when I checked back a few weeks ago. Maybe they were using it during the winter without proper notification. EP From necrat@cox.net Mon Apr 26 02:33:03 2010 From: necrat@cox.net (Mike Fitzpatrick) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:33:03 -0400 Subject: W242AA In-Reply-To: <33159018.1272213957799.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <33159018.1272213957799.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001e01cae50a$52edf2c0$f8c9d840$@net> >Image overload, or intermodulation, from strong >but off-frequency HD stations does not seem to >activate HD at all. I have seen HD intermod activate the HD indicator off frequency, and here is how I usually tell if it is that or not. When the HD light flashes, you should have the call identifier right away. (i.e. "WCRB-FM" or "WGBH-HD2"). If the IBOC units aren't setup correctly, or have the call sign portion left blank, it will show up as "HD -FM" Even really weak HD signals I almost 98% of the time get the call sign to show up. At 50 milliwatts, the HD signal would come in solid in parts of Cambridge. 50 milliwatts from the roof of the MIT building , outside, directional is a lot more digital power than you may think. If you do not get a identifier after several seconds of the HD light flashing, every time, you are probably getting a mix factor. It is very possible that what you are seeing is the mix factor from the PRU that is combined with the W242AA analog signal. Thus you only see it when you're within a certain spot of the transmitter. From lglavin@mail.com Mon Apr 26 15:43:11 2010 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:43:11 -0400 Subject: NY Times Should Know: Pubcasters Thrive On Classical Music Message-ID: <8CCB38FD6787109-C7C-2177@web-mmc-m06.sysops.aol.com> Close to seven months after divesting its commercial classical outlet, WQXR-FM, then at 96.3, the New York Times takes a look at how the deal is working out for the station after the switch to WNYC management and a new, weaker channel. (WGBH's takeover of WCRB is mentioned within): http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/26/business/media/26radio.html?src=busln From nostaticatall@charter.net Wed Apr 28 17:52:22 2010 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:52:22 -0400 Subject: [Boston_Progressive_Talk] Carr Suspended for a week In-Reply-To: <4BCBF3FD.13478.A4861A@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <20100418070743.sn3vup1zyewwgkcs@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <4BCBF3FD.13478.A4861A@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: When Carr was off the air during the botched move to WTKK, his affiliates were fed best of shows for awhile. When it looked like the standoff was going to be extended, some affiliates picked up replacement programming. Most all of them returned to the fold once it was clear that he was in place for the foreseeable future. It seems at first glance that Entercom was handling the distribution of his show, but who knows. I'm actually surprised he hasn't built a home studio and done his shows from there by now. My guess is that once he's out from Entercom, he'll do just that and set up his own distribution to affiliates if he's contractually able to do so, no matter who his next "flagship station" may be. On Apr 19, 2010, at 2:11 AM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 18 Apr 2010 at 7:07, revdoug1@myfairpoint.net wrote: > >> Side question: When Howie was preparing to leave 'RKO for WTKK, >> wsn't >> there some concern that he wouldn't be able to continue broadcasting >> on his regional "network"? I'm not sure where "Entercom entity" >> ends >> and "intellectual property" begins here. I would think that if he >> were to leave, he could establish contracts with his former "network" >> stations and set the whole thing up all over again. Am I wrong? > > Depends entirely on what it says in Carr's contract with the station > and the contractual arrangements for the distribution of his show to > the regional net. From lsochrin@rcn.com Thu Apr 29 12:18:31 2010 From: lsochrin@rcn.com (Larry Sochrin) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:18:31 -0400 Subject: [Boston_Progressive_Talk] Carr Suspended for a week In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I can think of three reasons why he wouldn't build a home studio: 1. Many people don't like working at home and prefer to be out and about, or at least in a corporate office, for social, business, family, other reasons. 2. At least his current office isn't badly located in terms of going either to Wellesley or to the Boston Herald. I'm not sure about WTKK's location. 3. Wellesley isn't the type of town where people work from home. On Apr 29, 2010, at 12:00 PM, boston-radio-interest- request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org wrote: > I'm actually surprised he hasn't built a home studio and done his > shows from there by now. My guess is that once he's out from > Entercom, he'll do just that and set up his own distribution to > affiliates if he's contractually able to do so, no matter who his > next "flagship station" may be. From nostaticatall@charter.net Fri Apr 30 13:34:39 2010 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:34:39 -0400 Subject: [Boston_Progressive_Talk] Carr Suspended for a week In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8A2B6BE6-6B18-4A21-8434-5C5AEE7A4E4F@charter.net> On Apr 29, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Larry Sochrin wrote: > I can think of three reasons why he wouldn't build a home studio: > 1. Many people don't like working at home and prefer to be out and > about, or at least in a corporate office, for social, business, > family, other reasons. Um, he hates his current employers. You really don't think he'd rather not have to deal with Julie or Jason on a daily basis? Besides, his airshift is only four hours a day. He has plenty of time to conduct other business away from home if he chooses. > 2. At least his current office isn't badly located in terms of going > either to Wellesley or to the Boston Herald. I'm not sure about > WTKK's location. It's not that far in terms of mileage, but if he decides to syndicate his show himself once he's out from Entercom he may want to do it from his own location. That way he's not beholden to any one station. Many top talk talents are starting to do this. > 3. Wellesley isn't the type of town where people work from home. Um, I lived in Wellesley for six years. I worked from home full time the entire time. I knew quite a few people in town that did the same thing, either part time or full time. It's really not as rare as you think it is. -Dave Tomm