From madprof@ix.netcom.com Thu Oct 1 00:32:20 2009 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 00:32:20 -0400 Subject: Re2: WHAI 98.3 & WMUA reception Message-ID: <380-22009104143220796@ix.netcom.com> in 2006 WMUA moved to the WesTower Cell site, north west of Emily Dickenson, higher HAAT & thus had to drop power.. NECRAT posted pictures of WMUA's new antenna on the cell tower, I have copy dated 8-16-2006; I believe the link was posted to BRI by a member. PS but my memory is, as a UMASS student & WMUA station member, when it was still 10w & antenna on the old Engrg bldg. Bob > [Original Message] > From: Dale H. Cook > To: > Date: 9/30/2009 6:08:39 PM > Subject: Re: WHAI 98.3 & WMUA reception > > At 03:24 PM 9/30/2009, Robert F. Sutherland wrote: > > >WHAI 98.3 Greenfield, > >non-directional class A, with FCC 60dbu service map > >that covers Northampton, not Holyoke or furthur south > > Elevation - 324m AMSL, on Arthur's Seat on the western edge of the valley. > > >Also WMUA 91.1 Amherst > > That is a bit surprising - 175m AMSL, and from the map it looks like > the antenna is still atop Emily Dickinson Hall on Orchard Hill. > > Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, > Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ > http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From necrat.alternate@gmail.com Thu Oct 1 00:27:50 2009 From: necrat.alternate@gmail.com (Mike Fitzpatrick) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 00:27:50 -0400 Subject: WHAI 98.3 & WMUA reception In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090930164833.02685be0@plymouthcolony.net> References: <380-220099330192454468@ix.netcom.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20090930164833.02685be0@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: <000601ca424f$8933bf80$9b9b3e80$@alternate@gmail.com> -----Original Message----- At 03:24 PM 9/30/2009, Robert F. Sutherland wrote: >WHAI 98.3 Greenfield, >non-directional class A, with FCC 60dbu service map >that covers Northampton, not Holyoke or furthur south > >Elevation - 324m AMSL, on Arthur's Seat on the western edge of the valley. However not much farther south of the pike, WHAI's signal gets hammered by WILI-FM in spots, and it's "spotty" as to which you can hear. WDAQ was never a factor when I lived around there. >Also WMUA 91.1 Amherst WMUA is on a cell tower across the parking lot from Dickinson. http://www.necrat.us/wmua_pro.html --Mike From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Thu Oct 1 01:49:23 2009 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 01:49:23 -0400 Subject: [Save_progressive_radio_boston] Re: WGBH buying WCRB-FM, turning it into a commercial-free classical station References: , <4AB9B82C.12415.7DFDEA@joe.attorneyross.com> <815C48B5BE3F4598B38EA75CD68D872B@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <65D0624BA1244A25ABE9AF2855030914@MainXPPro> I think we had a term for that phenomenon.....wasn't it called "Glavinating"? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; Cc: "boston radio e-mail list" Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Save_progressive_radio_boston] Re: WGBH buying WCRB-FM,turning it into a commercial-free classical station > But if you agree with one very vocal and insistent poster to both the > Progressive Talk and Boston Radio lists, WCRB hasn't played classical > music in decades. Although I do not agree with that poster, who > appears to want to impose his personal taste on all of WCRB's > listeners because he is sure he knows what is good for them, even if > they, themselves, do not, I gather that he is not alone in his > opinion. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: > Cc: "boston radio e-mail list" > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:54 AM > Subject: Re: [Save_progressive_radio_boston] Re: WGBH buying > WCRB-FM,turning it into a commercial-free classical station > > >> On 22 Sep 2009 at 14:49, skeres wrote: >> >>> Thank goodness for that! I like the idea of keeping classical >>> radio. >> >> But it may, in fact, reduce the availability of classical music on >> local radio. Right now there is WHRB in the afternoon/evening, WGBH >> in the morning, and WCRB all the time. When WGBH buys WCRB, will >> there continue to be classical music on WGBH or will WGBH do >> something else? >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 >> Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> > From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Oct 1 02:47:49 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 01:47:49 -0500 Subject: WRKO: A fake Ernie Boch, and ESPN test? Message-ID: <20091001064749.34939CD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> Tonight I noticed WRKO had two things on at once just before 2 am: Coast to Coast (along with Fox News, a promo for Finneran, etc.) and what sounded like ESPN Radio. It wasn't a distant station coming in (ESPN 680 in Memphis comes to mind) and mixing with them; no, they both sounded like WRKO. By 2:05 am, it sounded like the ESPN was quickly faded down and it was back to _only_ Coast to Coast (WEEI in the meantime was running their usual Fox Sports Radio). I wonder if they were testing a feed from ESPN and could run some overnight or weekend shows or certainly the (non-Red Sox) baseball playoffs on WRKO? At least the "two feeds at once" was solved. Also the Herald reported that an "Ernie Boch III" has been posting on the Blue Mass Group blog and trying to get advertisers to stop buying spots on the Howie Carr show. The only trouble: There is no Ernie Boch III, and Ernie Boch Jr. is none too happy about the imposter. He says that he is actually a big supporter of Howie Carr and that when his family owned WXTK, they were the first to syndicate Howie. http://bostonherald.com/track/inside_track/view/20091001ernie_boch_jr_lefty_web_blogger_is_no_child_of_mine/srvc=home&position=6 From nostaticatall@charter.net Thu Oct 1 02:34:40 2009 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 02:34:40 -0400 Subject: WHAI 98.3 & WMUA reception In-Reply-To: <000601ca424f$8933bf80$9b9b3e80$@alternate@gmail.com> References: <380-220099330192454468@ix.netcom.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20090930164833.02685be0@plymouthcolony.net> <000601ca424f$8933bf80$9b9b3e80$@alternate@gmail.com> Message-ID: When I would drive from UMASS to home in CT back in the late 80's, there were occasions when all three 98.3's would battle it out as you drove down 91 from Holyoke all the way down to the CT line. Normally WHAI would completely disappear once you were south of Springfield, but during trop openings it would last sometimes as far as the Bradley exit. A couple of times I've been able to pull in WHAI on 84 around Manchester. Bolton Notch can null out WILI-FM enough to allow WHAI to come in (weakly, but there) when conditions are right. In that area WHAI is an easier pull than WDAQ. -Dave Tomm On Oct 1, 2009, at 12:27 AM, Mike Fitzpatrick wrote: > -----Original Message----- > At 03:24 PM 9/30/2009, Robert F. Sutherland wrote: > >> WHAI 98.3 Greenfield, >> non-directional class A, with FCC 60dbu service map >> that covers Northampton, not Holyoke or furthur south >> >> Elevation - 324m AMSL, on Arthur's Seat on the western edge of the >> valley. > > However not much farther south of the pike, WHAI's signal gets > hammered > by WILI-FM in spots, and it's "spotty" as to which you can hear. > WDAQ was never a factor when I lived around there. > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Oct 1 03:30:39 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:30:39 -0400 Subject: WHAI 98.3 & WMUA reception In-Reply-To: <380-220099330192454468@ix.netcom.com> References: <380-220099330192454468@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <4AC45A9F.12853.CD3943@joe.attorneyross.com> On 30 Sep 2009 at 15:24, Robert F. Sutherland wrote: > Also WMUA 91.1 Amherst (UMASS) (hey, A.Joe.R) > has been consistantly solid on the pike thru all > of Ludlow-Springfield, even some in Westfielld! I've heard WMUA as far east on the Pike as Sturbridge. Back when I was a freshman, my parents came up to visit me, using a good portable AM-FM radio (the car radio in those days didn't have FM), and they said they couldn't get WMUA until they reached Pelham. That was before WMUA had a major power boost. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Thu Oct 1 05:29:24 2009 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 05:29:24 -0400 Subject: Re2: WHAI 98.3 & WMUA reception In-Reply-To: <380-22009104143220796@ix.netcom.com> References: <380-22009104143220796@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20091001051746.0267c378@plymouthcolony.net> At 12:32 AM 10/1/2009, Robert F. Sutherland wrote: >PS but my memory is, as a UMASS student & WMUA station member, >when it was still 10w & antenna on the old Engrg bldg. It still was when I started at WMUA 40 years ago this fall, with a two-bay Jampro JSCP antenna, and the transmitter was a Collins exciter, IIRC an 830A-2. The only processing was a single Gates unit, but I disremember which model - perhaps a Level Devil? Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From francini@mac.com Thu Oct 1 11:47:43 2009 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:47:43 -0400 Subject: self supporting TV towers In-Reply-To: <4AC188E6.13263.B197CF@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <19278362.1254173083908.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4AC188E6.13263.B197CF@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <3E0DF3DC-A336-4571-B671-2B12D2DFA223@mac.com> They were indeed Flatley properties; if I recall correctly the full list included Braintree, Newton, Framingham, Danvers, and Nashua. They also had apartment complexes scattered around the same areas, with the same Tudor look. Tom Flatley must have really liked the style... j On 29 Sep 2009, at 0:11, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 28 Sep 2009 at 17:24, Eli Polonsky wrote: > >> Unlike the Sheraton Hotels in Newton and Framingham, the >> Needham Sheraton was never a "Sheraton-Tara", only just a >> Sheraton. I don't know what qualified those other Sheratons >> to gain the "Tara" suffix that the Needham one lacked. > > I believe the Tara hotels were Flatley franchises, and I think they > all had the same sort of Tudor architecture. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From kvahey@comcast.net Thu Oct 1 16:07:22 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:07:22 -0500 Subject: WNYC annouces what the new WQXR will be Message-ID: <4fc429770910011307uffdf16dmf92531c1327644ea@mail.gmail.com> WNYC has announced their plans for WQXR when the station moves to their new home next week. I suspect this will be a blueprint for WCRB when GBH takes over http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/01/arts/music/01radio.html?ref=arts From lglavin@mail.com Thu Oct 1 16:11:04 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:11:04 -0500 Subject: Bach trumps Telemann at the "New" WQXR Message-ID: <20091001201104.6855011581F@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan.Strassberg" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Bach trumps Telemann at the "New" WQXR >Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:51:24 -0400 >Those who believe that classical music programmers at public radio >stations such as WQXR (starting October 8) and WCRB (only a little >later) should be more adventurous, apparently don't have much support >from WQXR management. According to the CEO of public radio station >WNYC, WQXR's new owner, "Bach trumps Telemann." >Read all about it here (don't forget to repair the split link, if >necessary): >http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/01/arts/music/01radio.html?_r=1&emc=eta1 >If WGBH adopts a similar policy when it takes over WCRB, we all know >of one poster on this list who will weep buckets for the "commercial >interests" at public stations that clearly should heed his warnings, >because he knows what the listeners would want if only they were as >smart as he is--that is, smart enough to know what is good for them. Just to be clear: Telemann is NOT some avant-garde composer of recent vintage, but a contemporary of Johann Sebastian Bach (late 1600s to mid-18th Century); Telemann was a more famous composer when both were alive, but the T-man's reputation declined as JSB's star rose (unfortunately for him, long after he could profit from the adulation). So the point the NYT was making is similar to what I've said right along: playing obscure-and-forgotten-18th-Century-dreck by deservedly-obscure-and-forgotten- composers is NOT good programming policy. The article goes on to quote statements from Christopher Bannon, listed as program director of the sister stations. I wonder if his expertise is in news/talk programming as opposed to classical-music, because some of the statements don't make sense. Number one...Beethoven's music from opus 90 on up is extremely popular (this is comprised of mainly of the 9th Symphony, late piano sonatas (fun fact: Beethoven's piano music is so highly regarded that when Steinway Musical Instruments went public, they chose the NYSE Stock Symbol 'LVB'), and late string quartets. The Boston area hosts Beethoven cycles nearly every year; this season it's the Muir String Quartet: http://www.muirstringquartet.org/schedule.html Nice timing...Cathy Fuller has programmed several LvB string quartets on WGBH-FM 89.7 during her 9:00 am till noon stint. Number two: it's ridiculous to consider Sibelius' tone poems (a term I don't like, but it's the term-of-art in popular use) as outside the mainstream. The Boston Symphony Orchestra and two community orchestras with I'm familiar have performed them several times in the past two years. There's NO DIFFERENCE in the quality and appeal of the Sibelius symphonies as opposed to the tone poems! Since this artice appeared on a Thursday, there may not be any reaction in the Sunday Times on the 4th...but wait a week; I predict that there will be several Letters in Section 2, the Arts pages of the Sunday Times on the 11th that may well mirror my position (except that they won't be printed from right-to-left). -- An Excellent Credit Score is 750 See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! From lglavin@mail.com Thu Oct 1 18:24:18 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:24:18 -0500 Subject: WNYC annouces what the new WQXR will be Message-ID: <20091001222418.AE349BE407E@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kevin Vahey" >To: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" >Subject: WNYC annouces what the new WQXR will be >Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:07:22 -0500 >WNYC has announced their plans for WQXR when the station moves to >their new home next week. >I suspect this will be a blueprint for WCRB when GBH takes over >http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/01/arts/music/01radio.html?ref=arts Don't bet on it. I just perused the playlists of programs hosted by Cathy Fuller and Brian McCreath for this week so far. Highly eclectic (it even included Grofe's "Grand Canyon Suite". If that doesn't ring a bell, some of you may remember the days when cigarettes were advertised on radio and TV. Philip Morris frequently utilized a young man in a bellhop's costume who yelled "Call for Phi-il-ip Moar-arris" while a section of the "Grand Canyon Suite" played in the background). And remember when the guy from the-WQXR-to-be said, "Vivaldi ok, just no vocal music"? WGBH so far this week has played only one Vivaldi composition...the "Gloria" for vocalists, chorus and orchestra. -- An Excellent Credit Score is 750 See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! From heritageradio@msn.com Thu Oct 1 22:11:38 2009 From: heritageradio@msn.com (thomas heathwood) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:11:38 -0400 Subject: WRKO multiple audio signals In-Reply-To: <20091001064749.34939CD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20091001064749.34939CD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Multple audio inputs are heard nightly at different times between 11:45PM and 5"00AM every night on WRKO. Apparently management doesn't care if the automation works or not. Sometimes there are total lapses of anything for minutes at a time. Maybe Sid can let the AM folks know. Doesn't anyone in engineering listen to the air product at night? Tom Heathwood 10/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Nelson To: BostonRadio Mailing List Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:47 AM Subject: WRKO: A fake Ernie Boch, and ESPN test? Tonight I noticed WRKO had two things on at once just before 2 am: Coast to Coast (along with Fox News, a promo for Finneran, etc.) and what sounded like ESPN Radio. It wasn't a distant station coming in (ESPN 680 in Memphis comes to mind) and mixing with them; no, they both sounded like WRKO. By 2:05 am, it sounded like the ESPN was quickly faded down and it was back to _only_ Coast to Coast (WEEI in the meantime was running their usual Fox Sports Radio). I wonder if they were testing a feed from ESPN and could run some overnight or weekend shows or certainly the (non-Red Sox) baseball playoffs on WRKO? At least the "two feeds at once" was solved. Also the Herald reported that an "Ernie Boch III" has been posting on the Blue Mass Group blog and trying to get advertisers to stop buying spots on the Howie Carr show. The only trouble: There is no Ernie Boch III, and Ernie Boch Jr. is none too happy about the imposter. He says that he is actually a big supporter of Howie Carr and that when his family owned WXTK, they were the first to syndicate Howie. http://bostonherald.com/track/inside_track/view/20091001ernie_boch_jr_lefty_web_blogger_is_no_child_of_mine/srvc=home&position=6 From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 2 01:28:03 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:28:03 -0400 Subject: Bach trumps Telemann at the "New" WQXR In-Reply-To: <20091001201104.6855011581F@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20091001201104.6855011581F@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4AC58F63.28036.888F68@joe.attorneyross.com> On 1 Oct 2009 at 15:11, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Just to be clear: Telemann is NOT some avant-garde composer of recent > vintage, but a contemporary of Johann Sebastian Bach (late 1600s to > mid-18th Century); Telemann was a more famous composer when both were > alive, but the T-man's reputation declined as JSB's star rose > (unfortunately for him, long after he could profit from the > adulation). So the point the NYT was making is similar to what I've > said right along: playing obscure-and-forgotten-18th-Century-dreck by > deservedly-obscure-and-forgotten- composers is NOT good programming > policy. On the other hand, WCRB in recent years has been known to play works by William Herschel, an 18th century musician and astronomer whose main claim to fame was the discovery of the planet Uranus. A more obscure 18th century composer I can't think of. > The article goes on to quote statements from Christopher > Bannon, listed as program director of the sister stations. I wonder > if his expertise is in news/talk programming as opposed to > classical-music, because some of the statements don't make sense. It's not clear just what "Back trumps Telemann" means. He also said that radio trumps internet, yet the station will have an internet stream. So perhaps "Bach trumps Telemann" only means that there will be a lot more Bach than Telemann, not that there will be no Telemann. Time will tell. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 2 01:28:03 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:28:03 -0400 Subject: WNYC annouces what the new WQXR will be In-Reply-To: <20091001222418.AE349BE407E@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20091001222418.AE349BE407E@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4AC58F63.11531.889013@joe.attorneyross.com> On 1 Oct 2009 at 17:24, Laurence Glavin wrote: > And remember when the guy from the-WQXR-to-be said, "Vivaldi ok, just > no vocal music"? WGBH so far this week has played only one Vivaldi > composition...the "Gloria" for vocalists, chorus and orchestra. It used to be the WCRB policy not to play choral music except around the Christmas holiday. But nowadays, they often play the 9th symphony and Handel's Hallelujah Chorus. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Fri Oct 2 12:18:13 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:18:13 -0400 Subject: self supporting TV towers References: <19278362.1254173083908.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net><4AC188E6.13263.B197CF@joe.attorneyross.com> <3E0DF3DC-A336-4571-B671-2B12D2DFA223@mac.com> Message-ID: <234FE23BAD2F48E2B69CFA86987552D6@teddesktop> Once during an interview Flatley told me his iconic Tudor architecture.was a tribute to his native Ireland. Flatley's original trade was a simple bricklayer. Not much on Wikipedia, but what's there is a bit eye-opening with interesting annotations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Flatley TL . ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Francini" To: "A. Joseph Ross" Cc: ; "Eli Polonsky" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: Re: self supporting TV towers > They were indeed Flatley properties; if I recall correctly the full list > included Braintree, Newton, Framingham, Danvers, and Nashua. They also > had apartment complexes scattered around the same areas, with the same > Tudor look. Tom Flatley must have really liked the style... > > j > > On 29 Sep 2009, at 0:11, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > >> On 28 Sep 2009 at 17:24, Eli Polonsky wrote: >> >>> Unlike the Sheraton Hotels in Newton and Framingham, the >>> Needham Sheraton was never a "Sheraton-Tara", only just a >>> Sheraton. I don't know what qualified those other Sheratons >>> to gain the "Tara" suffix that the Needham one lacked. >> >> I believe the Tara hotels were Flatley franchises, and I think they >> all had the same sort of Tudor architecture. >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 >> Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> > > > From phylo1@yahoo.com Fri Oct 2 13:38:00 2009 From: phylo1@yahoo.com (Phyllis) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Classical Radio Message-ID: <65314.92055.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My favorite classical "station" is the AOL Vocal Arts station, which you can get free over the web via AOL Radio - I listen on my PC and wirelessly on my iTouch. They just played some German Leider by Dame Janet Baker, and now it's a very contemporary (and rather noisy) American piece called An American Collage, that's being played. XM Radio had a vocal station too, but after the merger, it disappeared and soon after, I cancelled my subscription (although not just for that reason.) Phyllis W. WCUW 91.3 FM Shirim -Jewish Music rotating Sunday nights 8-10 PM From brouder@juno.com Fri Oct 2 15:12:13 2009 From: brouder@juno.com (brouder@juno.com) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:12:13 GMT Subject: Alan H. Dary, RIP Message-ID: <20091002.151213.15544.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> This morning (Friday 10/2) Alan H. Dary died of kidney failure after a brief illness. He had been in hospice care in Manchester, NH since Monday. Alan was 89 years old. Born in Shelton, CT, his first radio job was at WSUN in St. Petersburg, FL in 1946. He later worked at WBRY in Waterbury, CT before moving to WORL in Boston from 1951-56, where his music show was called the "Dary-Go-Round." >From 1956-61 Alan was one of the inaugural crew of local disc jockeys at WBZ in Boston. His original airshift there started at 10:20 at night. >From 1961-63 Alan returned to WORL for a mid-day music show. From 1963-74 he was part of the airstaff at WHDH in Boston. From 1974-76 Alan worked at WMEX in Boston. An avid Red Sox fan, the WMEX duties involved hosting a pre-game show from the bleachers at Fenway Park where he awarded prizes to fans who could answer baseball trivia questions correctly. In 1977 Alan and his late wife, Charlotte, moved to Londonderry, NH. He hosted the morning show on WGIR AM in Manchester for three years, later working at WKBR in Manchester and returning to Boston when the former WXKS AM featured a nostalgia format. According to his son, Alan I. Dary, funeral arrangements are incomplete. It is believed a serivce will be held in Derry, NH next Wednesday (10/7/09). Ed Brouder Manchester, NH ____________________________________________________________ Power up with great prices on every size battery you can imagine. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsMIqFjDp2T86TLMuVa6mH8SHUdb2FDjpH8AYOmNI7y3laKj8Mu4W8/ From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Oct 2 16:26:36 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:26:36 -0500 Subject: Boch on WRKO: Blogger "is not me" Message-ID: <20091002202636.79DCCCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> Ernie Boch Jr just appeared on Howie Carr's show. A blogger on Blue Mass Group is calling for a boycott of Howie Carr's sponsors, for various reasons. This blogger uses the name Ernie Boch III and Ernie Boch Jr said "it's not me" and said that the blogger has said various things online, using that name...but Boch got a call from fellow Carr advertiser Bob Sheridan saying, "Ernie why did you write this?" Boch said "it's not me..." Carr's column this morning said actually he wouldn't mind being able to leave WRKO, so go ahead, make his day (referring to his attempt to flee two years ago). Now Boch Jr. is on air telling Howie that no, that wasn't him urging advertisers to pull spots from WRKO, and George Regan had suggested hiring a private investigator to find out who the impostor is. Boch said better yet he'd offer $2,000 to whomever could track down the impostor (and they think it may be "someone at the state house" Boston, a city that thrives on politics and revenge... From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Oct 3 03:19:33 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:19:33 -0500 Subject: WTKK shuffles weekday lineup Message-ID: <20091003071933.283B183BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> WTKK has announced that starting Monday Don Imus will be on from 5-7 am only (perhaps expanded a bit on St Patrick's Day when they do the annual Kiss Me I'm Imus broadcast) with Jim Braude & Margery Eagan following from 7-10 am, with local talk competing against WRKO's Finneran and Feinburg for 2 hours and RKO's syndie Laura Ingraham for an hour. Then Michael Graham is expanded to four hours, from 10 am to 2 pm Severin moves back an hour (2-6 pm; remember when Jerry Williams had those hours?) and Michele McPhee gains an hour, from 6 to 10 pm. The rest of the lineup remains syndicated Curtis Sliwa and Phil Hendrie. WTKK has 15 hours of local talk a day, twice what WRKO has, but we'll see if they can gain in the ratings. From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Sat Oct 3 12:32:24 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:32:24 -0400 Subject: Boch on WRKO: Blogger "is not me" References: <20091002202636.79DCCCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <19BCC5C2CA08403FA46EF1BD6D1C0172@teddesktop> Wow a whole $2,000 reward. The car selling business is worse off than I thought! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:26 PM Subject: Boch on WRKO: Blogger "is not me" Ernie Boch Jr just appeared on Howie Carr's show. A blogger on Blue Mass Group is calling for a boycott of Howie Carr's sponsors, for various reasons. This blogger uses the name Ernie Boch III and Ernie Boch Jr said "it's not me" and said that the blogger has said various things online, using that name...but Boch got a call from fellow Carr advertiser Bob Sheridan saying, "Ernie why did you write this?" Boch said "it's not me..." Carr's column this morning said actually he wouldn't mind being able to leave WRKO, so go ahead, make his day (referring to his attempt to flee two years ago). Now Boch Jr. is on air telling Howie that no, that wasn't him urging advertisers to pull spots from WRKO, and George Regan had suggested hiring a private investigator to find out who the impostor is. Boch said better yet he'd offer $2,000 to whomever could track down the impostor (and they think it may be "someone at the state house" Boston, a city that thrives on politics and revenge... From markwats@comcast.net Sun Oct 4 08:20:08 2009 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:20:08 -0400 Subject: WWZN Is The New Home For Lowell Devils Hockey Message-ID: <411BDB223162410486E154F32614A5D3@Mark> WWZN (a/k/a 1510 The Zone) is the new radio home for the Lowell Devils, the AHL affiliate of the New Jersey Devils. WCAP had been the radio home of the Devils and their predecessors the Lock Monsters ever since AHL hockey arrived in Lowell in the late 90's. 1510's night signal in Lowell is just about non-existent (a good amount of the Devils' games are 7PM starts), however the Devils' website indicates that all game broadcasts can be heard on live streaming on the WWZN website. I wonder if any Lowell area sponsors who bought sponsorships for the games this season know just how good the over the air signal of 1510 is at night in the Merrimack Valley. And of course, inquiring minds want to know how the games went from WCAP to WWZN? Mark Watson From bill.smith@comcast.net Sun Oct 4 15:29:29 2009 From: bill.smith@comcast.net (Bill Smith) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:29:29 -0400 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 13, Issue 402 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3ffa0ce20910041229qb40e3abu3867dbadcd231b71@mail.gmail.com> On 10/4/09, boston-radio-interest-request@tsornin.bostonradio.org wrote: > Send Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list submissions to > boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.BostonRadio.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-radio-interest > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > boston-radio-interest-owner@lists.BostonRadio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Boston-Radio-Interest digest..." > -- Sent from my mobile device ----- This electronic mail is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient. From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Oct 6 01:00:14 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:00:14 -0500 Subject: Bach trumps Telemann at the "New" WQXR In-Reply-To: <20091005174640.80D1A1CE833@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20091005174640.80D1A1CE833@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4ACACEDE.31033.5865D2@joe.attorneyross.com> On 5 Oct 2009 at 12:46, Laurence Glavin wrote: > According to their website's playlist archives, last month WCRB played > a piece by Carlos Baguer. There's no entry for Carlos Baguer at > Wikipedia. If you type in 'Carlos Baguer', the site asks if you mean > 'Carlos Baker'? Now THAT's obscure! I wonder whether WCRB actually plays Telemann. I'll have to try to pay attention. Trouble is, I've been listening mostly online to WFCR-HD2 in my office these days. Maybe I'll go back to WCRB when WGBH takes over and the commercials go away. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Oct 6 07:55:09 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:55:09 -0400 Subject: Bach trumps Telemann at the "New" WQXR References: <20091005174640.80D1A1CE833@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> <4ACACEDE.31033.5865D2@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <8CB9790D83414A6AB05202E64CAAA32E@SatU205S5044> The GM at WNYC said that the new non-commercial (and low-powered) WQXR 105.9 would run four minutes per hour of underwriting credits, whereas the old, commercial WQXR 96.3 sometimes ran as may as 12 minutes an hour of commercials. However, I'm sure he very conveniently forgot how many minutes per hour of begging the new WQXR will run during pledge drives. I don't know how many weeks per year of pledge drives the typical public radio station runs, but during pledge weeks, it usually seems as if the number is at least 51 weeks. Anyhow, if you calculate the weighted average of the number of minutes per hour of begging during fund drives and the number of minutes per hour of underwriting credits during non-pledge weeks, I suspect that the result is a lot closer to 12 minutes per hour than it is to four minutes per hour. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Laurence Glavin" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:00 AM Subject: Re: Bach trumps Telemann at the "New" WQXR > On 5 Oct 2009 at 12:46, Laurence Glavin wrote: > >> According to their website's playlist archives, last month WCRB >> played >> a piece by Carlos Baguer. There's no entry for Carlos Baguer at >> Wikipedia. If you type in 'Carlos Baguer', the site asks if you >> mean >> 'Carlos Baker'? Now THAT's obscure! > > I wonder whether WCRB actually plays Telemann. I'll have to try to > pay attention. > > Trouble is, I've been listening mostly online to WFCR-HD2 in my > office these days. Maybe I'll go back to WCRB when WGBH takes over > and the commercials go away. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From lglavin@mail.com Mon Oct 5 13:46:40 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:46:40 -0500 Subject: Bach trumps Telemann at the "New" WQXR Message-ID: <20091005174640.80D1A1CE833@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: "Laurence Glavin" >Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Bach trumps Telemann at the "New" WQXR >Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:28:03 -0400 >On 1 Oct 2009 at 15:11, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Just to be clear: Telemann is NOT some avant-garde composer of recent > vintage, but a contemporary of Johann Sebastian Bach (late 1600s to > mid-18th Century); Telemann was a more famous composer when both were > alive, but the T-man's reputation declined as JSB's star rose > (unfortunately for him, long after he could profit from the > adulation). So the point the NYT was making is similar to what I've > said right along: playing obscure-and-forgotten-18th-Century-dreck by > deservedly-obscure-and-forgotten- composers is NOT good programming > policy. >On the other hand, WCRB in recent years has been known to play works >by William Herschel, an 18th century musician and astronomer whose >main claim to fame was the discovery of the planet Uranus. A more >obscure 18th century composer I can't think of. According to their website's playlist archives, last month WCRB played a piece by Carlos Baguer. There's no entry for Carlos Baguer at Wikipedia. If you type in 'Carlos Baguer', the site asks if you mean 'Carlos Baker'? Now THAT's obscure! -- An Excellent Credit Score is 750 See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Tue Oct 6 13:28:13 2009 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:28:13 -0400 Subject: Alan Dary Message-ID: Thanks to Ed Brouder for passing along the obit for Alan Dary. It said that Alan worked at WMEX? I thought WMEX was a Top 40 station in the 70's...and that Alan Dary was a staunch MOR guy. DIdn't he leave WBZ or WHDH because he didn't want to play "rock and roll"? How did he fit in at WMEX? From kvahey@comcast.net Tue Oct 6 13:53:36 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:53:36 -0500 Subject: Alan Dary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4fc429770910061053u2551779r5d0279caec3567a6@mail.gmail.com> Yes Alan worked at WMEX in 1976 WMEX was able to get the Red Sox radio contract away from WHDH and part of the deal was to switch to MOR simply because Tom Yawkey could not stand the soft Top 40 format that HDH changed to. WMEX almost got Jess Cain as well but Blair gave Jess close to 7 figures to stay at HDH. On 10/6/09, Don A wrote: > > Thanks to Ed Brouder for passing along the obit for Alan Dary. > > It said that Alan worked at WMEX? > > I thought WMEX was a Top 40 station in the 70's...and that Alan Dary was a > staunch MOR guy. > > DIdn't he leave WBZ or WHDH because he didn't want to play "rock and roll"? > > How did he fit in at WMEX? > > From kvahey@comcast.net Tue Oct 6 15:26:17 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:26:17 -0500 Subject: Alan Dary In-Reply-To: <4ACB9638.1020601@gmail.com> References: <4fc429770910061053u2551779r5d0279caec3567a6@mail.gmail.com> <4ACB9638.1020601@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770910061226p19b02460s64b7181574ad3925@mail.gmail.com> Jess was the highest paid by far. Westinghouse and RKO General were very stingy towards talent (for example Bob Kennedy in 1968 was making 28K for hosting shows on radio and TV) On 10/6/09, Bill O'Neill wrote: > Kevin Vahey wrote: >> WMEX almost got Jess Cain as well but Blair gave Jess close to 7 >> figures to stay at HDH. >> > Was Jess one of the highest paid in the market at one point? > > (If he was he was worth every dime.) > > Bill O'Neill > From billohno@gmail.com Tue Oct 6 15:10:48 2009 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:10:48 -0400 Subject: Alan Dary In-Reply-To: <4fc429770910061053u2551779r5d0279caec3567a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770910061053u2551779r5d0279caec3567a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ACB9638.1020601@gmail.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: > WMEX almost got Jess Cain as well but Blair gave Jess close to 7 > figures to stay at HDH. > Was Jess one of the highest paid in the market at one point? (If he was he was worth every dime.) Bill O'Neill From lglavin@mail.com Tue Oct 6 14:10:46 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:10:46 -0500 Subject: Bach trumps Telemann at the "New" WQXR Message-ID: <20091006181046.7F94B1CE833@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan.Strassberg" >To: "A. Joseph Ross" , "Laurence Glavin" >Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Bach trumps Telemann at the "New" WQXR >Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:55:09 -0400 >The GM at WNYC said that the new non-commercial (and low-powered) WQXR >105.9 would run four minutes per hour of underwriting credits, whereas >the old, commercial WQXR 96.3 sometimes ran as may as 12 minutes an >hour of commercials. However, I'm sure he very conveniently forgot how >many minutes per hour of begging the new WQXR will run during pledge >drives. I don't know how many weeks per year of pledge drives the >typical public radio station runs, but during pledge weeks, it usually >seems as if the number is at least 51 weeks. Anyhow, if you calculate >the weighted average of the number of minutes per hour of begging >during fund drives and the number of minutes per hour of underwriting >credits during non-pledge weeks, I suspect that the result is a lot >closer to 12 minutes per hour than it is to four minutes per hour. >----- >Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >eFax 1-707-215-6367 WBUR is currently in "Fall Fundraiser" mode; last Saturday, I listened to the 9:00 am to 10:00 am portion of "Weekend Edition/Saturday" on NH Public Radio because I failed to set my alarm for 8:00 o'clock. So I flipped to WBUR for the repeat of the 8:00 am to 9:00 hour, and they ran the same Ira Glass-guilt-inducing message THREE times, and included no more than 20 minutes of program content; all the rest of the time was begging! -- An Excellent Credit Score is 750 See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Oct 6 17:05:32 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:05:32 -0400 Subject: Public radio beg-a-thons (was: Re: Bach trumps Telemann at the "New" WQXR) In-Reply-To: <20091006181046.7F94B1CE833@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20091006181046.7F94B1CE833@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <19147.45340.231106.581612@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > So I flipped to WBUR for the repeat of the 8:00 am to 9:00 hour, and > they ran the same Ira Glass-guilt-inducing message THREE times, and > included no more than 20 minutes of program content; all the rest of > the time was begging! I've often wondered if public radio could raise money more effectively by doing less-intrusive fund-raising more frequently (or even continually). Pledge drives are one of the things that put me off from supporting public radio. (Although public television is arguably even worse, so I try to support only those stations that I believe really deserve the money. Sorry, WGBH!) -GAWollman From hishaun@hotmail.com Tue Oct 6 17:17:25 2009 From: hishaun@hotmail.com (Shaun Hayes) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:17:25 -0400 Subject: Hot97 on 87.7 Message-ID: Heard "Hot97 Boston" on 87.7 this morning while checking for the return of the Boxford pirate. Signal was quite strong in Beverly. Of course, they have the frequency all to themselves. I wonder if they'd come in on my analog TV? Shaun _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ From scott@fybush.com Tue Oct 6 17:27:28 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:27:28 -0400 Subject: Public radio beg-a-thons In-Reply-To: <19147.45340.231106.581612@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <20091006181046.7F94B1CE833@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> <19147.45340.231106.581612@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4ACBB640.1090905@fybush.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> So I flipped to WBUR for the repeat of the 8:00 am to 9:00 hour, and >> they ran the same Ira Glass-guilt-inducing message THREE times, and >> included no more than 20 minutes of program content; all the rest of >> the time was begging! > > I've often wondered if public radio could raise money more effectively > by doing less-intrusive fund-raising more frequently (or even > continually). Pledge drives are one of the things that put me off > from supporting public radio. (Although public television is arguably > even worse, so I try to support only those stations that I believe > really deserve the money. Sorry, WGBH!) "Arguably"? At least the public radio drives are wrapped around the actual programming that listeners are being asked to support. There are many in the public broadcasting world who are critical (and rightly so, I think) of the TV model that pulls the regular programming off the air completely in favor of what can sometimes be a bizarre melange of old musical acts, self-help gurus, and who even knows what else sometimes. As for the frequency of pubradio fund-raising, that topic is discussed often among programmers as well. At WXXI, where our drive gets underway next week, we pitch for three weeks out of 52. The drives never exceed seven days, and when they're over, we leave the listeners alone for anywhere from three to five months before the next drive hits. Stations have considerable leeway to decide how much of a program hour they want to pre-empt for pitching. We rarely exceed 16-18 minutes of pitching each hour, and try to do most of it during the slots in the program clock that would otherwise be filled with local continuity. I can only recall one instance in which we knocked out most of a half-hour, and that was at the very end of a drive where we were about to fall short. Other stations do things differently. Our neighbors to the east at WAMC pitch more often, and for much more of each hour...and they raise a LOT more money as a result, but at the expense of considerably more audience annoyance. Other stations have tried to minimize their drives, but the result tends to be a significant drop-off in membership dollars. If you have a better solution, I'd be happy to help you hang out your consultant shingle to sell it to the pubradio world... :) s From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Oct 6 17:29:14 2009 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: ESPN returns to WGAM 1250 Manchester NH and WGHM 900 Nashua Message-ID: <907571.71845.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ESPN returns to WGAM 1250 Manchester NH and WGHM 900 Nashua starting Thursday. These stations will also start carrying Boston Bruins games. John B Londonderry From markwats@comcast.net Tue Oct 6 18:45:52 2009 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:45:52 -0400 Subject: ESPN returns to WGAM 1250 Manchester NH and WGHM 900 Nashua References: <907571.71845.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John B. wrote: > ESPN returns to WGAM 1250 Manchester NH and >WGHM 900 Nashua starting > Thursday. These stations will >also start carrying Boston Bruins games. When did they drop (or lose) ESPN? Mark Watson From m_carney@yahoo.com Tue Oct 6 18:46:53 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: ESPN returns to WGAM 1250 Manchester NH and WGHM 900 Nashua In-Reply-To: <907571.71845.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <907571.71845.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <485928.65955.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Too bad it wasn't tonight. The only station I could find the AL playoff game was ESPN 1050 and that wasn't coming in all that well. From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Tue Oct 6 20:18:53 2009 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WHAI 98.3 & WMUA reception Message-ID: <813416.50090.qm@web112113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > At 12:32 AM 10/1/2009, Robert F. Sutherland wrote: > PS but my memory is, as a UMASS? student & WMUA station member, when it >was still 10w & antenna on the old Engrg bldg. Yes, those were the days -- 10w and roughly 35 feet below average terrain! The transmitter was moved in 1971 to the Dickinson dorm and power increased to 1 kW. Sometime later -- '80s or '90s? -- FCC rules on RF required the transmitter to be moved from the dorm to a shack a couple hundred yards away at the base of a short tower that's at the apex of Orchard Hill, according to WMUA members I once met at a station reunion weekend. IIRC, power was reduced to go along with the increase in HAAT. From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Tue Oct 6 20:58:12 2009 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:58:12 -0400 Subject: WHAI 98.3 & WMUA reception In-Reply-To: <813416.50090.qm@web112113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <813416.50090.qm@web112113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20091006205550.0270af78@plymouthcolony.net> At 08:18 PM 10/6/2009, Martin Waters wrote: >The transmitter was moved in 1971 to the Dickinson dorm and power >increased to 1 kW. That was a CCA transmitter. I wasn't part of the transmitter site build - I was busy as part of the crew rebuilding the studios. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Oct 7 02:01:52 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:01:52 -0500 Subject: ESPN returns to WGAM 1250 Manchester NH and WGHM 900 Nashua In-Reply-To: <907571.71845.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <907571.71845.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4ACC2ED0.6397.631599@joe.attorneyross.com> On 6 Oct 2009 at 14:29, John Bolduc wrote: > ESPN returns to WGAM 1250 Manchester NH and WGHM 900 Nashua starting > Thursday. These stations will also start carrying Boston Bruins games. Is WGAM the former WKBR? When did they change calls? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Oct 7 02:01:52 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:01:52 -0500 Subject: WHAI 98.3 & WMUA reception In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20091006205550.0270af78@plymouthcolony.net> References: <813416.50090.qm@web112113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, <7.0.1.0.2.20091006205550.0270af78@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: <4ACC2ED0.20204.631645@joe.attorneyross.com> On 6 Oct 2009 at 20:58, Dale H. Cook wrote: > At 08:18 PM 10/6/2009, Martin Waters wrote: > > >The transmitter was moved in 1971 to the Dickinson dorm and power > >increased to 1 kW. > > That was a CCA transmitter. I wasn't part of the transmitter site > build - I was busy as part of the crew rebuilding the studios. Was that when the station moved to the Campus Center? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Oct 7 02:01:51 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:01:51 -0500 Subject: Alan Dary In-Reply-To: <4fc429770910061053u2551779r5d0279caec3567a6@mail.gmail.com> References: , <4fc429770910061053u2551779r5d0279caec3567a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ACC2ECF.10466.631328@joe.attorneyross.com> On 6 Oct 2009 at 12:53, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Yes Alan worked at WMEX in 1976 > > WMEX was able to get the Red Sox radio contract away from WHDH and > part of the deal was to switch to MOR simply because Tom Yawkey could > not stand the soft Top 40 format that HDH changed to. Was that when the call letters changed to WITS? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Oct 7 01:23:08 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:23:08 -0400 Subject: Alan Dary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20091007052259.7B8121B4087@relay26.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 01:28 PM 10/6/2009, Don A wrote: >Thanks to Ed Brouder for passing along the obit for Alan Dary. > >It said that Alan worked at WMEX? I don't recall Alan at WMEX. I recall him at the old WORL, and of course at WBZ, and the old WHDH, and WXKS. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Wed Oct 7 01:38:39 2009 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 01:38:39 -0400 Subject: Alan Dary References: <20091007052259.7B8121B4087@relay26.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <1BE95A86FD704CBD8D1C22D92B2AB336@MainXPPro> >>Thanks to Ed Brouder for passing along the obit for Alan Dary. >> >>It said that Alan worked at WMEX? > > I don't recall Alan at WMEX. I recall him at the old WORL, and of course > at WBZ, and the old WHDH, and WXKS. Hi Donna, here are the lines from his obit: >> Born in Shelton, CT, his first radio job was at WSUN in St. Petersburg, FL in 1946. He later worked at WBRY in Waterbury, CT before moving to WORL in Boston from 1951-56, where his music show was called the "Dary-Go-Round." >From 1956-61 Alan was one of the inaugural crew of local disc jockeys at WBZ in Boston. His original airshift there started at 10:20 at night. >From 1961-63 Alan returned to WORL for a mid-day music show. From 1963-74 he was part of the airstaff at WHDH in Boston. From 1974-76 Alan worked at WMEX in Boston. << From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Oct 7 01:50:10 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:50:10 -0400 Subject: Alan Dary In-Reply-To: <1BE95A86FD704CBD8D1C22D92B2AB336@MainXPPro> References: <20091007052259.7B8121B4087@relay26.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <1BE95A86FD704CBD8D1C22D92B2AB336@MainXPPro> Message-ID: <20091007055004.B756FC0C6@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 01:38 AM 10/7/2009, Don A wrote: >Hi Donna, here are the lines from his obit: I wasn't questioning the obit-- I was just saying I didn't recall him there. 8-) I was working in Cleveland and NY and Washington DC at that time, so I was not entirely in touch with who was on which Boston stations in the mid 1970s. From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Oct 7 03:31:39 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 02:31:39 -0500 Subject: ESPN returns to WGAM 1250 Manchester NH and WGHM 900 Nashua Message-ID: <20091007073139.68788905C49@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> I did pick it up on XM for a little while but then had to go to work. In one of the few spots at work where distant AM comes in well, I was getting it on WEPN 1050 NY--but CHUM was overpowering it (and I could only listen for a few minutes). A co-worker said he had been outside and was getting it on the WMVP 1000 from Chicago. I heard the final score via 98.5 the Sports Hub From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Oct 7 06:22:43 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 05:22:43 -0500 Subject: ESPN returns to WGAM 1250 Manchester NH and WGHM 900 Nashua In-Reply-To: <4ACC2ED0.6397.631599@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <907571.71845.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4ACC2ED0.6397.631599@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80910070322j6da63288v798e0db410f48c6f@mail.gmail.com> Yes, WGAM is the old WKBR, the changed calls back on 9-18-2007 according to fccinfo.com -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:01 AM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 6 Oct 2009 at 14:29, John Bolduc wrote: > > > ESPN returns to WGAM 1250 Manchester NH and WGHM 900 Nashua starting > > Thursday. These stations will also start carrying Boston Bruins games. > > Is WGAM the former WKBR? When did they change calls? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 > http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Wed Oct 7 07:14:27 2009 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:14:27 -0400 Subject: WHAI 98.3 & WMUA reception In-Reply-To: <4ACC2ED0.20204.631645@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <813416.50090.qm@web112113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091006205550.0270af78@plymouthcolony.net> <4ACC2ED0.20204.631645@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20091007071143.0267cfe0@plymouthcolony.net> At 02:01 AM 10/7/2009, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >>1971 > >Was that when the station moved to the Campus Center? No - that was in the 1980s. When I left AP in 1982, the Daily Collegian was in the CC, but WMUA was still in Engineering. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From hykker@wildblue.net Wed Oct 7 08:43:11 2009 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:43:11 -0400 Subject: Alan Dary In-Reply-To: <1BE95A86FD704CBD8D1C22D92B2AB336@MainXPPro> References: <20091007052259.7B8121B4087@relay26.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <1BE95A86FD704CBD8D1C22D92B2AB336@MainXPPro> Message-ID: <9ff2be350910070543of3d2dd1qa89c468576f406e8@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Don A wrote: >> From 1961-63 Alan returned to WORL for a mid-day music show. ?From 1963-74 > > he was part of the airstaff at WHDH in Boston. ?From 1974-76 Alan worked at > WMEX in Boston. > Was this date incorrect, or did he work there in an off-air capacity? IIRC, WMEX was still Top 40 during that time frame & an old-school announcer like Alan would have sounded a bit out of place playing ABBA, Bad Co, Eagles, etc. From francini@mac.com Wed Oct 7 09:07:12 2009 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:07:12 -0400 Subject: ESPN returns to WGAM 1250 Manchester NH and WGHM 900 Nashua In-Reply-To: <907571.71845.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <907571.71845.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1A4CE059-91F2-4CF6-8924-EBDC8AEDFFB7@mac.com> This is both good and bad. I've grown to like Dan Patrick at 9:00 as an intelligent alternative to Dennis & Callahan's final hour and the pair on WBZ-FM. Mike & Mike aren't bad either, but I liked the calmer discourse on the DP show. I guess I'll have to put more Internet radios around the house. Sigh. j On 6 Oct 2009, at 17:29, John Bolduc wrote: > ESPN returns to WGAM 1250 Manchester NH and WGHM 900 Nashua starting > Thursday. These stations will also start carrying Boston Bruins games. > > John B > Londonderry From n1qgs@yahoo.com Wed Oct 7 12:11:48 2009 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fw: Re: ESPN returns to WGAM 1250 Manchester NH and WGHM 900 Nashua Message-ID: <182817.91427.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ESPN 900 Nashua, as they called themselves back then, lost their affiliation shortly after 890 (1400) went ESPN, maybe 4/5 years ago. I still have my ESPN-900 T-shirt! Apparently WGAM/WGHM will be keeping two mornings hours of the Dan Patrick show. WGAM/WGHM is/was Fox in between the ESPN stints, with some Sportings News Radio in the earlier days mixed in. They will still run 4 hours of local sports-talk in the PM drive time. John B Londonderry From theseacoast@maine.rr.com Wed Oct 7 13:18:44 2009 From: theseacoast@maine.rr.com (The Seacoast) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:18:44 -0400 Subject: Alan Dary In-Reply-To: <9ff2be350910070543of3d2dd1qa89c468576f406e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091007052259.7B8121B4087@relay26.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com><1BE95A86FD704CBD8D1C22D92B2AB336@MainXPPro> <9ff2be350910070543of3d2dd1qa89c468576f406e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: He was on-air doing the 9 AM - Noon slot in '76. I won a Cherry Pie from him (still have the recording) on George Washington's birthday. The station was "AC" at the time. John -----Original Message----- From: SteveOrdinetz [mailto:hykker@wildblue.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:43 AM To: Don A Cc: BRI+ Subject: Re: Alan Dary On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Don A wrote: >> From 1961-63 Alan returned to WORL for a mid-day music show. ?From >> 1963-74 > > he was part of the airstaff at WHDH in Boston. ?From 1974-76 Alan > worked at WMEX in Boston. > Was this date incorrect, or did he work there in an off-air capacity? IIRC, WMEX was still Top 40 during that time frame & an old-school announcer like Alan would have sounded a bit out of place playing ABBA, Bad Co, Eagles, etc. From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Wed Oct 7 14:05:24 2009 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WHAI 98.3 & WMUA reception Message-ID: <563307.74233.qm@web112102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 10/7/09, Joseph Ross & Dale H. Cook wrote: > >>1971 > > > >Was that when the station moved to the Campus Center? > > No - that was in the 1980s. When I left AP in 1982, the Daily >Collegian was in the CC, but WMUA was still in Engineering. Then it must have been very shortly after 1982 that the engineering dean summarily evicted WMUA from the engineering building with very little notice. The station was forced to operate from the "studios" of a former (?) pirate station in the Sylvan dorms -- allowing it stay on the air, but just about wiping out its training, etc., functions for the students. It stayed there while arrangements were made, funding obtained and studios built in the sub-sub-sub-sub (OK, I exaggerate slightly . . . ) basement of the Campus Center. I like to think that back in "our" day of the student-power early '70s, His Royal Deanship never would have gotten away with that c**p. From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed Oct 7 16:38:07 2009 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:38:07 -0400 Subject: WHAI 98.3 & WMUA reception In-Reply-To: <563307.74233.qm@web112102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <563307.74233.qm@web112102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4ACCFC2F.1080104@ttlc.net> Martin Waters wrote: > Then it must have been very shortly after 1982 that the engineering dean summarily evicted WMUA from the engineering building with very little notice. Little notice. Any reason[s] given? Anarchy? Subversion? "Because he could?" From markwats@comcast.net Wed Oct 7 17:51:38 2009 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:51:38 -0400 Subject: Donald Thurston, Owner Of Berkshire Broadcasting Co. Passes Away Message-ID: <1DC626BDCE5548A6852C995E51B72088@Mark> Donald Thurston, who founded Berkshire Broadcasting Co. passed away Tuesday at age 79 after battling Parkinson's Disease. Mr. Thurston started his radio career in Vermont before coming to WMNB North Adams in 1960. He founded Berkshire Broadcasting Co. in 1966 and purchased WMNB and WNAW. Later he purchased WSBS Great Barrington and several other stations before selling to Vox in 2004. More details from the Berkshire Eagle: http://www.berkshireeagle.com/ci_13502401 Mark Watson From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed Oct 7 19:27:04 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: ESPN on WEEI Message-ID: <927971.98777.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> WEEI has made it official - they are picking up ESPN overnights and weekends. http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/214350/weei-espn-radio-announce-affiliation-agreement The deal starts November 2, but there is some confusion over if WEEI will pick up any of the MLB playoffs. From jscavo@maine.rr.com Wed Oct 7 09:49:34 2009 From: jscavo@maine.rr.com (jscavo) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:49:34 -0400 Subject: Alan Dary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <465F146C63E940A0ABC7FB8D823BB17B@hpomnibook2> He worked at WMEX soon after they shifted away from "Top 40", and more of an "AC" station. I would say this was around 1975 or so. At the time, they had folks like Bill Lawrence, Alan Dary, Joel Cash, Dennis Burke and maybe Scott Wallace and Captain Crunch doing mornings. I believe the PD might have been Pat Whitley at the time, but I could be off a year or so. -----Original Message----- From: Don A [mailto:donald_astelle@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:28 PM To: BRI+ Subject: Alan Dary Thanks to Ed Brouder for passing along the obit for Alan Dary. It said that Alan worked at WMEX? I thought WMEX was a Top 40 station in the 70's...and that Alan Dary was a staunch MOR guy. DIdn't he leave WBZ or WHDH because he didn't want to play "rock and roll"? How did he fit in at WMEX? From jscavo@maine.rr.com Wed Oct 7 13:15:35 2009 From: jscavo@maine.rr.com (John) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:15:35 -0400 Subject: Alan Dary In-Reply-To: <4ACC2ECF.10466.631328@joe.attorneyross.com> References: , <4fc429770910061053u2551779r5d0279caec3567a6@mail.gmail.com> <4ACC2ECF.10466.631328@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <1A5F919D54B14B84882F9CE9DB03016A@vpr1> No, the calls changed sometime after 'MEX already had it's format together. I remember Scott Wallace, Ellen Kimball, Avi Nelson (maybe even Jerry Williams at some point), and the two sports guys, I forget their names, but C & C, come to mind. John -----Original Message----- From: A. Joseph Ross [mailto:joe@attorneyross.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:02 AM To: Kevin Vahey Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Alan Dary On 6 Oct 2009 at 12:53, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Yes Alan worked at WMEX in 1976 > > WMEX was able to get the Red Sox radio contract away from WHDH and > part of the deal was to switch to MOR simply because Tom Yawkey could > not stand the soft Top 40 format that HDH changed to. Was that when the call letters changed to WITS? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.5/2419 - Release Date: 10/07/09 05:18:00 From startingovernh@yahoo.com Wed Oct 7 14:37:36 2009 From: startingovernh@yahoo.com (Tim Martin) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Open House Party/Superadio Split Message-ID: <377933.1184.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com> >From a recent email signed - Jack Bryant?? President/COO Superadio I quote: ? "Per your Affiliate Agreement with Superadio, LLC relating to Open House Party, this letter will serve as notice that the producer of the program, Radiocraft, Inc., has terminated Superadio's rights to the program, effective September 30, 2009. Therefore, Superadio exercises its rights and obligations as provided in Section 4 of the Program Agreement.? You will continue to receive the program from Radiocraft.? Superadio has been informed by Radiocraft that someone will be in contact with you shortly." ? Also got one for Party Playhouse.? John Garabedian and Radiocraft apparently hold the rights to Party Playhouse and OHP, and have decided to go it alone, acting as sole producer/satellite distributor of the programs.? Anyone know more? From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Oct 7 21:05:01 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:05:01 -0400 Subject: ESPN on WEEI References: <927971.98777.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <507CE745DBDD479790801C1347B1F51F@SatU205S5044> Does anyone else besides me wonder whether, notwithstanding that WGBH has publicly announced that is is acquiring WCRB and has filed an application for transfer of control of WCRB, that Entercom might still be working behind the scenes to pull off some kind of deal to acquire 99.5? Here is a possible scenario (fasten your seat belts): WEEI moves to 93.7; 99.5 downgrades to B1, moves to the WRKO site in Burlington, and becomes WMKK; Entercom donates WKAF to WGBH; 97.7 becomes WCRB; ESPN moves full-time to 850; 890/1400 returns to the air as ESPN Deportes. Remember, Entercom bought 97.7 for a ridiculous price--$30 million--back before station prices collapsed. If Entercom has not written down the asset, and they donate WKAF to WGBH, they might be able to get credit for a $30-million charitable contribution. The tax effect of that contribution might enable Entercom to acquire 99.5 from WGBH for very close to 'GBH's $14 million cost of acquiring WCRB--without Entercom's having to dig into its very depleted cash reserves. A crazy scenario? You bet! A likely scenario? Nope. A possible scenario? I think so. (I'll be in the lobby after the show to accept nominations for the Joseph Gallant Memorial Award.) Technically it would leave WCRB on the Class A 97.7 signal, albeit from a site closer to Boston than Wood Hill--a site that happens to be owned by WCRB's new parent, thus reducing WCRB's operating costs. And 107.3 would be back to being on only the quasi-rimshot 107.3. Well, Entercom can't have _everything_ can they? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Carney" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:27 PM Subject: ESPN on WEEI > WEEI has made it official - they are picking up ESPN overnights and > weekends. > > http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/214350/weei-espn-radio-announce-affiliation-agreement > > The deal starts November 2, but there is some confusion over if WEEI > will pick up any of the MLB playoffs. > > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Oct 7 21:12:44 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:12:44 -0400 Subject: Alan Dary References: , <4fc429770910061053u2551779r5d0279caec3567a6@mail.gmail.com><4ACC2ECF.10466.631328@joe.attorneyross.com> <1A5F919D54B14B84882F9CE9DB03016A@vpr1> Message-ID: <1F19D473F2314413BC5F9B50E95F9D72@SatU205S5044> The two sports guys were Cliff and Claff--Cliff Keene and Larry (Claff) Clafflin. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" To: "'A. Joseph Ross'" ; "'Kevin Vahey'" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: RE: Alan Dary > No, the calls changed sometime after 'MEX already had it's format > together. > I remember Scott Wallace, Ellen Kimball, Avi Nelson (maybe even > Jerry > Williams at some point), and the two sports guys, I forget their > names, but > C & C, come to mind. > > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: A. Joseph Ross [mailto:joe@attorneyross.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:02 AM > To: Kevin Vahey > Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: Alan Dary > > On 6 Oct 2009 at 12:53, Kevin Vahey wrote: > >> Yes Alan worked at WMEX in 1976 >> >> WMEX was able to get the Red Sox radio contract away from WHDH and >> part of the deal was to switch to MOR simply because Tom Yawkey >> could >> not stand the soft Top 40 format that HDH changed to. > > Was that when the call letters changed to WITS? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.5/2419 - Release Date: > 10/07/09 > 05:18:00 > > From sid@wrko.com Wed Oct 7 21:06:06 2009 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:06:06 -0600 Subject: Alan Dary In-Reply-To: <1A5F919D54B14B84882F9CE9DB03016A@vpr1> References: , <4fc429770910061053u2551779r5d0279caec3567a6@mail.gmail.com> <4ACC2ECF.10466.631328@joe.attorneyross.com>, <1A5F919D54B14B84882F9CE9DB03016A@vpr1> Message-ID: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC55255885B7@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> "the two sports guys, I forget their names, but C & C, come to mind." Clif and Claf: Larry Claflin (Globe) and Clif Keane (Herald). Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Thu Oct 8 02:54:29 2009 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WHAI 98.3 & WMUA reception In-Reply-To: <4ACCFC2F.1080104@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <346783.88334.qm@web112120.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 10/7/09, Roger Kirk wrote: > Little notice.? Any reason[s] given?? > Anarchy?? Subversion?? "Because he could?" Exactly -- because he could. The reason given was that the engineering school needed the space. Again, I like to think that in the good old days we would have responded -- just for starters -- by giving him a sales brochure from a portable classroom manufacturer along with a high-ball estimate on the hundreds of thousands of dollars he was going to pay to build us new studios and a tentative projection that we could maybe move out in two years. If he said please. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Oct 8 07:43:17 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:43:17 -0400 Subject: ESPN on WEEI References: <927971.98777.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <507CE745DBDD479790801C1347B1F51F@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <1BC7A139925C48C581D47F4247322046@SatU205S5044> In my post of yesterday evening, in which I speculated on the pssibility of Entercom making a last minute deal to acquire 99.5 from WGBH in exchange for 97.7 and a big tax savings (from donating 97.7 to WGBH), I forgot to ask whether an on-channel booster on 107.3 atop one of the tall buildings downtown might not be a workable way for Entercom to replace 97.7. Can anybody shed some light on whether such a booster could a) conform to FCC rules and b) improve the 107.3 signal in Boston proper without causing signal problems elsewhere in the metro (out over Mass Bay wouldn't matter)? My understanding is that on-channel boosters must not extend the primary station's 60-dBu contour. Is that correct? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "Maureen Carney" ; "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: Re: ESPN on WEEI From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Oct 8 07:53:28 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:53:28 -0400 Subject: ESPN on WEEI In-Reply-To: <1BC7A139925C48C581D47F4247322046@SatU205S5044> References: <927971.98777.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <507CE745DBDD479790801C1347B1F51F@SatU205S5044> <1BC7A139925C48C581D47F4247322046@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <19149.53944.471737.618718@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > the metro (out over Mass Bay wouldn't matter)? My understanding is > that on-channel boosters must not extend the primary station's 60-dBu > contour. Is that correct? Boosters must not extend the signal beyond the *theoretical* 60 dBu contour. They work best when the *actual* 60 dBu contour doesn't reach the target area due to terrain obstruction (see Humpy Peak, Utah). -GAWollman From paulranderson@charter.net Thu Oct 8 08:00:12 2009 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:00:12 -0400 Subject: ESPN on WEEI In-Reply-To: <927971.98777.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <927971.98777.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2DE8883D-AE97-4F75-8821-45D0DCCC91D2@charter.net> On Oct 7, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Maureen Carney wrote: > WEEI has made it official - they are picking up ESPN overnights and > weekends. Will the WEEI affiliate stations also pick up ESPN or just the Mother Ship? Paul From m_carney@yahoo.com Thu Oct 8 10:52:24 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: ESPN on WEEI In-Reply-To: <2DE8883D-AE97-4F75-8821-45D0DCCC91D2@charter.net> References: <927971.98777.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <2DE8883D-AE97-4F75-8821-45D0DCCC91D2@charter.net> Message-ID: <292050.4524.qm@web53302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Ordway said it was across the entire WEEI network. My guess is that during ESPN hours non-Entercom?affiliates can program as they please or need to due to other affiations or ESPN being elswhere in that market. From thekenttaylorshow@gmail.com Thu Oct 8 09:20:59 2009 From: thekenttaylorshow@gmail.com (Kent Taylor) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:20:59 -0400 Subject: ESPN on WEEI References: <927971.98777.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <2DE8883D-AE97-4F75-8821-45D0DCCC91D2@charter.net> Message-ID: > Will the WEEI affiliate stations also pick up ESPN or just the Mother > Ship? > > Paul Some will probably still carry Fox. Bangor has WZON, I don't think Portland has any affiliate that carries any ESPN programming, but there must be some small 1kw AMs carrying ESPN in markets that WEEI is in. From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Oct 9 00:40:31 2009 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:40:31 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: ESPN on WEEI Message-ID: <20778486.1255063231216.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > From: "Dan.Strassberg" > Wednesday, October 7, 2009 9:05 PM > Re: ESPN on WEEI > > Technically it would leave WCRB on the Class A > 97.7 signal, albeit from a site closer to Boston > than Wood Hill--a site that happens to be owned > by WCRB's new parent, thus reducing WCRB's > operating costs. And 107.3 would be back to being > on only the quasi-rimshot 107.3. Well, Entercom > can't have _everything_ can they? I noticed last night that the stereo channels are reversed between 107.3 and the simulcast on 97.7. A Jimi Hendrix track that was originally recorded with the vocal on only one channel had the vocal on the left on 107.3, but on the right on 97.7. I'm not sure which one is transmitting correctly. If nothing else, that shows a lack of attention to detail toward the simulcast on Entercom's part. I don't know if that adds to your speculation. EP From kvahey@comcast.net Fri Oct 9 16:21:28 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:21:28 -0500 Subject: September PPM numbers Message-ID: <4fc429770910091321t5f572a78j274b4b91dc9e4823@mail.gmail.com> Just glancing at the September PPM numbers at arbitron.com and some interesting results in the overall numbers WBZ-FM had a respectable launch obviously helped by the Patriots but WEEI wasn't dented at all and gained almost exactly what WRKO lost which is no doubt Red Sox related. WMKK even with signal limitations continues to score well and WAAF gained very little with the end of WBCN Given those numbers I would think if Entercom moves WEEI to FM it will be to the WAAF slot and perhaps use the Milton transmitter to improve WMKK to the south given that EEI-FM currently covers the area south of Boston well. From atolz@comcast.net Fri Oct 9 17:37:40 2009 From: atolz@comcast.net (Alan Tolz) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:37:40 -0400 Subject: September PPM numbers References: <4fc429770910091321t5f572a78j274b4b91dc9e4823@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <607B43EA7AE344599C1956EE9C48A923@mediacenter> I agree with your read on this, but I am curious as to where ANY former WBCN listeners went? They don't seem to be reflected anywhere. Any thoughts? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 4:21 PM Subject: September PPM numbers > Just glancing at the September PPM numbers at arbitron.com and some > interesting results in the overall numbers > > WBZ-FM had a respectable launch obviously helped by the Patriots but > WEEI wasn't dented at all and gained almost exactly what WRKO lost > which is no doubt Red Sox related. > > WMKK even with signal limitations continues to score well and WAAF > gained very little with the end of WBCN > Given those numbers I would think if Entercom moves WEEI to FM it will > be to the WAAF slot and perhaps use the Milton transmitter to improve > WMKK to the south given that EEI-FM currently covers the area south of > Boston well. > From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Oct 9 17:29:31 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:29:31 -0400 Subject: September PPM numbers References: <4fc429770910091321t5f572a78j274b4b91dc9e4823@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <713510DEC7CD45E2884170C8A2312098@SatU205S5044> Does 93.7 really have any serious problems south of Boston? I know this is FM, not AM, where salt water makes a world of difference, but salt water has a pretty salutary effect on FM also and the Peabody (or is it Danvers--I always forget) stick has a pretty good shot at the South Shore over salt water. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 4:21 PM Subject: September PPM numbers > Just glancing at the September PPM numbers at arbitron.com and some > interesting results in the overall numbers > > WBZ-FM had a respectable launch obviously helped by the Patriots but > WEEI wasn't dented at all and gained almost exactly what WRKO lost > which is no doubt Red Sox related. > > WMKK even with signal limitations continues to score well and WAAF > gained very little with the end of WBCN > Given those numbers I would think if Entercom moves WEEI to FM it > will > be to the WAAF slot and perhaps use the Milton transmitter to > improve > WMKK to the south given that EEI-FM currently covers the area south > of > Boston well. From kvahey@comcast.net Fri Oct 9 18:50:47 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:50:47 -0500 Subject: September PPM numbers In-Reply-To: <607B43EA7AE344599C1956EE9C48A923@mediacenter> References: <4fc429770910091321t5f572a78j274b4b91dc9e4823@mail.gmail.com> <607B43EA7AE344599C1956EE9C48A923@mediacenter> Message-ID: <4fc429770910091550h374662f5iaab71d1b3e2ca656@mail.gmail.com> I have no idea where the BCN listeners went unless they simply went to IPod mode. MIKE-FM must be making a nice profit considering no human element. I would surmise AAF's days are numbered. Overall they must be very happy at the New Balance building today with both EEI and RKO doing well. From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Oct 9 18:53:06 2009 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:53:06 -0400 Subject: September PPM numbers In-Reply-To: <713510DEC7CD45E2884170C8A2312098@SatU205S5044> References: <4fc429770910091321t5f572a78j274b4b91dc9e4823@mail.gmail.com> <713510DEC7CD45E2884170C8A2312098@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <006c01ca4933$448ad770$cda08650$@net> > Does 93.7 really have any serious problems south of Boston? I know > this is FM, not AM, where salt water makes a world of difference, but > salt water has a pretty salutary effect on FM also and the Peabody (or > is it Danvers--I always forget) stick has a pretty good shot at the > South Shore over salt water. In my opinion, 93.7's signal on the south shore and other more inland areas south of Boston is fine, and actually better than 97.7's. In parts of the Taunton/Mansfield area, 97.7 will just about fade out completely to static, and traces of WCTY will come in. Even in Brockton, 93.7 probably has a better signal. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Oct 10 07:21:38 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:21:38 -0400 Subject: 890/1400 Message-ID: Bob Nelson posted at radio-info.com that these stations will return to the air next month but there is no info on the exact date or format. Anyone have any details? rumors? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Oct 10 12:01:03 2009 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:01:03 -0400 Subject: 890/1400 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1fbbbced0910100901o396fdb6fv463624ea950cd037@mail.gmail.com> Not sure what the format will be (see below); the source was a tweet by "MCChiefWahoo" who I believe is somehow affiliated with Merrimack College, saying "WLLH AM1400 will be back on the air in Nov. Don't know about the format other than Merrimack Hockey". "Bostonradio" (Boston Radio Watch) responded, "Looks like two former "ESPN Boston" stations are returning to air sometime in Nov. WLLH AM 1400 and WAMG AM 890. Probably different format" (http://www.twitter.com c/o the respective users) As for format we'll have to see what rumors break out; some are wondering if it would be ethnic again or perhaps R&B/black-oriented. Who knows, they could do the syndie oldies route (True Oldies?) or some other cheap-to-run format. If WEEI tosses Fox Sports Radio completely aside that could be a possibility (yes yet another sports outlet)...or maybe Salem Communications could try to sell their conservtive talk shows (Bennett, Gallagher, Praeger, Medved, Hewitt) to the stations (a format which Salem itself put on their 1150 but they decided to do Spanish religion instead). But anything is speculation at this point...we may hear later on what the deal is. What's interesting is that if the Red Sox should, heaven forbid, fail in the first round, the "WEEI to FM" situation could be sped up. With the season over, WEEI could pick a date-- just before the Celtics season starts--and announce its move to FM, with ESPN launching full time on 850 with the rest of the baseball playoffs, and they would be right on time in establishing a WEEI on FM (in Boston) just before the Celts start. On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Bob Nelson posted at radio-info.com that these stations will return to > the air next month but there is no info on the exact date or format. > Anyone have any details? rumors? From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Sat Oct 10 15:09:18 2009 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:09:18 -0400 Subject: 890/1400 References: Message-ID: <003301ca49dd$2b5a03c0$6d8b4c0c@oemcomputer> Dollar a holler religion or ethnic would seem the only option in this economy for an AM start-up (or restart), wouldn't it? Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan.Strassberg To: Boston Radio Interest Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:21 AM Subject: 890/1400 > Bob Nelson posted at radio-info.com that these stations will return to > the air next month but there is no info on the exact date or format. > Anyone have any details? rumors? > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Oct 10 15:25:41 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:25:41 -0400 Subject: 890/1400 References: <003301ca49dd$2b5a03c0$6d8b4c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: >From what I hear, leased-time religion is not doing well in the recession. Dunno about ethnic. It sounds as if WRCA is selling well over half of the hours between midnight and 5:00AM. So that business seems to remain pretty solid. I think WUNR is doing even better than that, but I can't get the station at night to check. WBNW has just started originating its own programming (financial talk) during most of the broadcast day. Some of this is leased time, but it sounds as if a lot of it is not. This appears to be a very bold move, especially in today's economy. WBNW could really benefit by moving to the much bigger 890 signal but I doubt that that is going to happen. Waller Sutton probably wants way more money than Armstrong would be willing to pay either to buy or to lease 890. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Glazer" To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: 890/1400 > Dollar a holler religion or ethnic would seem the only option in > this > economy for an AM start-up (or restart), wouldn't it? > > Howard > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dan.Strassberg > To: Boston Radio Interest > > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:21 AM > Subject: 890/1400 > > >> Bob Nelson posted at radio-info.com that these stations will return >> to >> the air next month but there is no info on the exact date or >> format. >> Anyone have any details? rumors? >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> >> > From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Sat Oct 10 15:07:15 2009 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:07:15 -0400 Subject: September PPM numbers References: <4fc429770910091321t5f572a78j274b4b91dc9e4823@mail.gmail.com><607B43EA7AE344599C1956EE9C48A923@mediacenter> <4fc429770910091550h374662f5iaab71d1b3e2ca656@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002e01ca49dc$e2ab7280$6d8b4c0c@oemcomputer> That would be my guess, too. Maybe a few to Sirius XM, a few to WFNX, a few to various college stations, but for better or worse, Boston's FM programmers and ad agencies appear to have written off the WBCN audience as statistically insignificant and unworthy of chasing. Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Vahey To: Alan Tolz Cc: (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:50 PM Subject: Re: September PPM numbers > I have no idea where the BCN listeners went unless they simply went to > IPod mode. > From wollman@bimajority.org Sat Oct 10 16:58:58 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:58:58 -0400 Subject: September PPM numbers In-Reply-To: <002e01ca49dc$e2ab7280$6d8b4c0c@oemcomputer> References: <4fc429770910091321t5f572a78j274b4b91dc9e4823@mail.gmail.com> <607B43EA7AE344599C1956EE9C48A923@mediacenter> <4fc429770910091550h374662f5iaab71d1b3e2ca656@mail.gmail.com> <002e01ca49dc$e2ab7280$6d8b4c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <19152.62866.4359.134204@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > to various college stations, but for better or worse, Boston's FM > programmers and ad agencies appear to have written off the WBCN audience as > statistically insignificant and unworthy of chasing. What would you chase them with? There's no real dog among the full-market commercial FM signals right now. -GAWollman From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Sun Oct 11 17:35:45 2009 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: September PPM numbers In-Reply-To: <4fc429770910091550h374662f5iaab71d1b3e2ca656@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <952376.95955.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 10/9/09, Kevin Vahey wrote: > I have no idea where the BCN listeners went unless they simply went to > IPod mode. > Isn't that where they've been going for some years now, in greater proportions than listeners to some other music formats, contributing to WBCN's ratings decline? From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Mon Oct 12 16:33:07 2009 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: "The BIG 89!" (was Re: 890/1400) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <204037.43406.qm@web50804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In the meantime, we can still, we can enjoy good 'ol WLS from Chicago ("The BIG 89!"), just like the old days (minus the famous Top-40 format, of course, that made WLS a STAPLE on practically EVERYBODY'S radios back in the day). ENJOY! After that, I bet Espanol will probably be the case on 890 in Boston. "Eighty-NINE, Double-U... L-S!" (*sigh*, How I pine for those days of yore when the "BIG 89!" ruled the airwaves in 38 states!) Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Sat, 10/10/09, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > From: Dan.Strassberg > Subject: 890/1400 > To: "Boston Radio Interest" > Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 7:21 AM > Bob Nelson posted at radio-info.com > that these stations will return to > the air next month but there is no info on the exact date > or format. > Anyone have any details? rumors? > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Mon Oct 12 16:52:04 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:52:04 -0500 Subject: WYAJ 97.7 Message-ID: <8bce0fe80910121352m60327c10g6cdb5fc229ea11a7@mail.gmail.com> I just got word they are holding a major fundraiser this Saturday, in hopes of raising enough money to get engineering and legal work done to move frequency. If any money is left over, I think they plan on getting some station logo items. I don't know exactly what or how they plan on raising funds, but if anyone is interested in finding out, donating some $ or maybe helping out in some other ways (we have some engineers on this list, don't we?) email Paul F. Sarapas, the Department Coordinator for Fine Applied & Technical Arts at Lincoln Subury Regional High School, his email address is PAUL_SARAPAS@lsrhs.net He is very receptive to questions, ideas and suggestions. -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Mon Oct 12 16:52:04 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:52:04 -0500 Subject: WYAJ 97.7 Message-ID: <8bce0fe80910121352m60327c10g6cdb5fc229ea11a7@mail.gmail.com> I just got word they are holding a major fundraiser this Saturday, in hopes of raising enough money to get engineering and legal work done to move frequency. If any money is left over, I think they plan on getting some station logo items. I don't know exactly what or how they plan on raising funds, but if anyone is interested in finding out, donating some $ or maybe helping out in some other ways (we have some engineers on this list, don't we?) email Paul F. Sarapas, the Department Coordinator for Fine Applied & Technical Arts at Lincoln Subury Regional High School, his email address is PAUL_SARAPAS@lsrhs.net He is very receptive to questions, ideas and suggestions. -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Oct 13 08:59:34 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:59:34 -0500 Subject: "The BIG 89!" (was Re: 890/1400) Message-ID: <20091013125934.83F7383985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Ironically enough at one point didn't the 890 here call themselves "La Mega" (later moved to, or from, 1150), which is Spanish for "the Big"... ? :) Even when our 890 was on, sometimes the Chicago one would cut in...the same way that last week, when I attempted to hear a baseball playoff game at work on WEPN 1050 (in a place where I could get AM recep), I kept getting CHUM with some talk show or something (ads that were run featured a URL with ".ca" at the end), then the NYC ESPN outlet would come back in... From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Oct 13 09:40:06 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:40:06 -0400 Subject: "The BIG 89!" (was Re: 890/1400) References: <20091013125934.83F7383985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5F918D06190C47B8922E91B67E918B75@SatU205S5044> On many nights, a better choice for skywave ESPN reception is WMVP Chicago on 1000. Unlike WEPN, which is a Class B and is co-channel with a 50 kW Canadian station, CHUM, which protects it from interference only in the New York City area--not in southern New England, WMVP is a Class A, directionalized to the east, and has one of the best signals in this area of all of the big Chicago AMs. Because WMVP is a Class A, it receives little co-channel skywave interference, although it does have to contend with the IBOC hash from first-adjacent WINS. WMVP is often the better signal here even though it is nearly 700 miles further from us than WEPN is. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "Peter Q. George" ; "Boston Radio Interest" ; "Dan.Strassberg" Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: Re: "The BIG 89!" (was Re: 890/1400) Ironically enough at one point didn't the 890 here call themselves "La Mega" (later moved to, or from, 1150), which is Spanish for "the Big"... ? :) Even when our 890 was on, sometimes the Chicago one would cut in...the same way that last week, when I attempted to hear a baseball playoff game at work on WEPN 1050 (in a place where I could get AM recep), I kept getting CHUM with some talk show or something (ads that were run featured a URL with ".ca" at the end), then the NYC ESPN outlet would come back in... From scott@fybush.com Tue Oct 13 09:57:06 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:57:06 -0400 Subject: "The BIG 89!" (was Re: 890/1400) In-Reply-To: <5F918D06190C47B8922E91B67E918B75@SatU205S5044> References: <20091013125934.83F7383985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <5F918D06190C47B8922E91B67E918B75@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4AD48732.5060907@fybush.com> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > On many nights, a better choice for skywave ESPN reception is WMVP > Chicago on 1000. No question about it. Last Friday night, I was driving from NYC to Binghamton while the Sox-Angels game was in progress. That drive goes right down the null of WEPN's pattern, making WMVP pretty much the only usable choice except while in the Scranton area, where ESPN outlet WEJL 630 now has a fairly potent FM translator on 96.1. (Interestingly, Binghamton's ESPN outlet, Citadel's WYOS 1360, wasn't taking the baseball package that night.) s From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Oct 13 10:05:43 2009 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:05:43 -0400 Subject: "The BIG 89!" (was Re: 890/1400) In-Reply-To: <4AD48732.5060907@fybush.com> References: <20091013125934.83F7383985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <5F918D06190C47B8922E91B67E918B75@SatU205S5044> <4AD48732.5060907@fybush.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0910130705x1ef43f5cwb52c3526092a0146@mail.gmail.com> True; a co-worker of mine had said he was picking it up on the Chicago station quite well. Last night I was listening in my car to the Phillies-Rockies playoff via the Phillies network on XM radio, though if I had no XM, I could have gotten it easily on WPHT 1210 also. In fact last year since I couldn't pick up most ESPN stations too well at work, I had WPHT on (with the now-deceased Harry Kalas) to hear World Series games (via that FM re-transmitter). 890 WAMG was a no-go, 1050 NYC faded in or out (or had a Rangers game instead!), and WPOP 1410 also faded in and out but WPHT was pretty good overall. From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Tue Oct 13 15:22:32 2009 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: "The BIG 89!" (was Re: 890/1400) Message-ID: <906544.47924.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Scott Fybush wrote: > Last Friday night, I was driving from NYC to Binghamton > while the Sox-Angels game was in progress. That drive goes > right down the null of WEPN's pattern, making WMVP pretty > much the only usable choice . . . ???You should get WTIC pretty well through that area at night, no? From scott@fybush.com Tue Oct 13 15:36:11 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:36:11 -0400 Subject: "The BIG 89!" (was Re: 890/1400) In-Reply-To: <906544.47924.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <906544.47924.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AD4D6AB.2010802@fybush.com> Martin Waters wrote: > --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Scott Fybush wrote: >> Last Friday night, I was driving from NYC to Binghamton >> while the Sox-Angels game was in progress. That drive goes >> right down the null of WEPN's pattern, making WMVP pretty >> much the only usable choice . . . > > You should get WTIC pretty well through that area at night, no? > It was hitting skywave/groundwave cancellation early on in the drive - and parts of the drive were in WTIC's null toward Dallas, too. Add in WBAL's IBOC hash and it was pretty ugly. s From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Tue Oct 13 15:38:49 2009 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: "The BIG 89!" (was Re: 890/1400) Message-ID: <200407.50750.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Bob Nelson wrote: > Even when our 890 was on, sometimes the Chicago one would > cut in... ? ? But, :)), the FCC says WLS's skywave signal is no good that far from Chicago . . . LOL. ? ? WAMG being off reminds me that it's nice to hear WLS and not have splash trashing WCBS, not to mention getting the Canadian playing the old network radio dramas on 900 kHz. ? ? But, the FCC decided it was more important to make sure Dedham got a local station to serve the community. FOFL. From necrat.alternate@gmail.com Tue Oct 13 13:28:13 2009 From: necrat.alternate@gmail.com (Mike Fitzpatrick) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:28:13 -0400 Subject: "The BIG 89!" (was Re: 890/1400) In-Reply-To: <5F918D06190C47B8922E91B67E918B75@SatU205S5044> References: <20091013125934.83F7383985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <5F918D06190C47B8922E91B67E918B75@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <000901ca4c2a$8b153240$a13f96c0$@alternate@gmail.com> Down here in Southern New England, you can also get a pretty decent night signal from 1410 in Hartford. There have been a couple times this year when the Yankees coverage on 790 was being screwed up, that 1410 would come in clearer than 880 would. I believe 1410 is mostly ESPN programming as well during non Yankees games. From mike@miscon.net Fri Oct 16 12:11:36 2009 From: mike@miscon.net (mike@miscon.net) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:11:36 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: quick turntable question Message-ID: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Hello all! Trying to remember the name of turntable (used at WOTW back in the 80's at least) that had a?wooden tonearm. A real work-horse. Any ideas? Thanks! Mike From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Fri Oct 16 12:27:50 2009 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:27:50 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Message-ID: > Trying to remember the name of turntable (used at > WOTW back in the 80's at least) that had a wooden tonearm. A real > work-horse. Any ideas? Was it an Edison? ;-) From jwcorcoran@earthlink.net Fri Oct 16 13:05:02 2009 From: jwcorcoran@earthlink.net (Joe Corcoran) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:05:02 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Fw: Re: quick turntable question Message-ID: <11379910.1255712702980.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> -----Forwarded Message----- >From: Joe Corcoran >Sent: Oct 16, 2009 1:04 PM >To: Don A >Subject: Re: quick turntable question > >Harris, formerly Gates, made a 12" turntable that had a woodgrain tonearem. Also had a big red rocker switch to turn it on and off and a car-like black knob of a gearshift to switch from 33 to 45. Sorry I don't remember the model number. > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Don A >>Sent: Oct 16, 2009 12:27 PM >>To: mike@miscon.net, >>Subject: Re: quick turntable question >> >> >>> Trying to remember the name of turntable (used at >>> WOTW back in the 80's at least) that had a wooden tonearm. A real >>> work-horse. Any ideas? >> From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Fri Oct 16 12:17:44 2009 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:17:44 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20091016121555.02794210@plymouthcolony.net> At 12:11 PM 10/16/2009, Mike wrote: >Trying to remember the name of turntable (used at >WOTW back in the 80's at least) that had a wooden tonearm. That was a Gray Research tonearm, and it could be mounted on any turntable. It was available in both LP and transcription lengths. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZU / WZZI / WLNI / WVMP http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri Oct 16 12:23:07 2009 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:23:07 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Message-ID: Roscoe / QRK at least that's what the majority of studios had in the day. - - Chuck Igo ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: quick turntable question > > > Hello all! > > Trying to remember the name of turntable (used at > WOTW back in the 80's at least) that had a wooden tonearm. A real > work-horse. Any ideas? > > Thanks! > > Mike From mike@miscon.net Fri Oct 16 13:30:26 2009 From: mike@miscon.net (mike@miscon.net) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:30:26 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Message-ID: <.146.115.109.158.1255714226.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> QRK's Of course! Thanks! Mike > Roscoe / QRK > > at least that's what the majority of studios had in the day. > > - - Chuck Igo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:11 PM > Subject: quick turntable question > > >> >> >> Hello all! >> >> Trying to remember the name of turntable (used at >> WOTW back in the 80's at least) that had a wooden tonearm. A real >> work-horse. Any ideas? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Mike > From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Oct 16 13:04:56 2009 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:04:56 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Message-ID: <000001ca4e82$caa50d90$5fef28b0$@com> Probably a gates. There's a picture of one at the bottom of this link: http://videopark.com/oldbroadcast.htm Pro Cinema - Pro Audio - Pro & Consumer AV Equipment & Supplies Brian Vita President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 brian_vita@cssinc.com AIM: btvita tel: fax: 978-538-7575 978-538-7550 Want to always have my latest info? Want a signature like this? > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On > Behalf Of Don A > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:28 PM > To: mike@miscon.net; BRI@bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: quick turntable question > > > > Trying to remember the name of turntable (used at > > WOTW back in the 80's at least) that had a wooden tonearm. A real > > work-horse. Any ideas? > > > Was it an Edison? ;-) From sid@wrko.com Fri Oct 16 12:56:46 2009 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:56:46 -0600 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Message-ID: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> "Trying to remember the name of turntable (used at WOTW back in the 80's at least) that had a?wooden tonearm. A real work-horse. Any ideas?" Most likely a QRK. The wooden tonearm was made by a company out of western Massachusetts whose name escapes me for the moment. The QRK's were real workhorses. You couldn't destroy them. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Fri Oct 16 17:09:14 2009 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:09:14 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <4AD8E0FA.3000000@ttlc.net> Sid Schweiger wrote: > Most likely a QRK. The wooden tonearm was made by a company out of western Massachusetts whose name escapes me for the moment. The QRK's were real workhorses. You couldn't destroy them. > Was it possibly Micro Trak? IIRC, Gray used to make tone arms, but only metal. I also remember a company called Cooks Labs. WRKO used QRKs with wooden tone arms back in 1970-1973. From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Fri Oct 16 17:22:05 2009 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:22:05 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <4AD8E0FA.3000000@ttlc.net> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> <4AD8E0FA.3000000@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <4AD8E3FD.4050902@ttlc.net> Roger Kirk wrote: > Sid Schweiger wrote: >> Most likely a QRK. The wooden tonearm was made by a company out of >> western Massachusetts whose name escapes me for the moment. The >> QRK's were real workhorses. You couldn't destroy them. >> > Was it possibly Micro Trak? IIRC, Gray used to make tone arms, but > only metal. I also remember a company called Cooks Labs. > > WRKO used QRKs with wooden tone arms back in 1970-1973. Gray Wooden Tone Arm: http://www.dealscamera.com/Itm180417927335_48649_GRAY_RESEARCH_TONEARM_UNIQUE_.aspx Micro-Track Arm: http://cgi.ebay.com/Harris-Gates-CB-1201-Broadcast-Turntable!!-_W0QQitemZ250514248588QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20091015?IMSfp=TL091015194003r14281 Note the Gates-Harris clone of the QRK. From dave@skywaves.net Fri Oct 16 16:54:34 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:54:34 -0600 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <000001ca4e82$caa50d90$5fef28b0$@com> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> <000001ca4e82$caa50d90$5fef28b0$@com> Message-ID: I think the tonearm was made by Rek-O-Kut for Gates. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Vita" Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:04 AM To: "'Don A'" ; ; Subject: RE: quick turntable question > > Probably a gates. There's a picture of one at the bottom of this link: > > http://videopark.com/oldbroadcast.htm > > > > > Pro Cinema - Pro Audio - Pro & Consumer AV Equipment & Supplies > > > Brian Vita > President > Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. > 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 > Peabody, MA 01960-5691 > brian_vita@cssinc.com > AIM: btvita > tel: > fax: > 978-538-7575 > 978-538-7550 > > > > > > Want to always have my latest info? > Want a signature like this? > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org >> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On >> Behalf Of Don A >> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:28 PM >> To: mike@miscon.net; BRI@bostonradio.org >> Subject: Re: quick turntable question >> >> >> > Trying to remember the name of turntable (used at >> > WOTW back in the 80's at least) that had a wooden tonearm. A real >> > work-horse. Any ideas? >> >> >> Was it an Edison? ;-) > > From markwats@comcast.net Fri Oct 16 17:56:07 2009 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:56:07 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net><000001ca4e82$caa50d90$5fef28b0$@com> Message-ID: <3AFD4421B13A468F9088241E80789D3D@Mark> Dave Doherty wrote: >I think the tonearm was made by Rek-O-Kut for Gates. IIRC WCAP had a pair of Gates Rek-O-Kut turntables in their famous "That 70's Mobile Studio", part of a remote console that pre-dated said mobile unit. I'm not 100% certain, but I believe WLLH's remote console back in the 70's and early 80's had QRK turntables. Mark Watson From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Oct 16 18:12:25 2009 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:12:25 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <000601ca4ead$bf4b1cc0$3de15640$@com> > > Most likely a QRK. The wooden tonearm was made by a company out of > western Massachusetts whose name escapes me for the moment. The QRK's > were real workhorses. You couldn't destroy them. > Put them in a college radio station. From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Fri Oct 16 17:46:30 2009 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <4AD8E3FD.4050902@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <453881.16484.qm@web50810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> >From my own experience, those turntables with the "wooden" tonearms are more than likely RUSSCO. We used them at WSKB-FM (at Westfield State College, Westfield, MA) back in the late 1970's. We also had them at WBIM-FM in Brodgewater, MA back in the '80's. These tone arms and turntables handled the day-to-day use (especially with us college jocks) like a real workhorse. I believe I still have one of those TT's at one of my stations. Of course, it is pretty much used for parts now. There's very little need for a vintage RUSSCO turntable today. Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Fri, 10/16/09, Roger Kirk wrote: > From: Roger Kirk > Subject: Re: quick turntable question > To: > Cc: "BRI@bostonradio.org" > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 5:22 PM > > > Roger Kirk wrote: > > Sid Schweiger wrote: > >> Most likely a QRK.? The wooden tonearm was > made by a company out of western Massachusetts whose name > escapes me for the moment.? The QRK's were real > workhorses.? You couldn't destroy them. > >>??? > > Was it possibly Micro Trak?? IIRC, Gray used to > make tone arms, but only metal.? I also remember a > company called Cooks Labs. > > > > WRKO used QRKs with wooden tone arms back in > 1970-1973. > Gray Wooden Tone Arm:? http://www.dealscamera.com/Itm180417927335_48649_GRAY_RESEARCH_TONEARM_UNIQUE_.aspx > > Micro-Track Arm:? http://cgi.ebay.com/Harris-Gates-CB-1201-Broadcast-Turntable!!-_W0QQitemZ250514248588QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20091015?IMSfp=TL091015194003r14281 > > Note the Gates-Harris clone of the QRK. > > From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Fri Oct 16 18:02:07 2009 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:02:07 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcora d.com> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20091016171529.027a0e08@plymouthcolony.net> At 12:56 PM 10/16/2009, Sid Schweiger wrote: >Most likely a QRK. The wooden tonearm was made by a company out of >western Massachusetts whose name escapes me for the moment. I've seen QRK and Gates TTs with Gray Research arms installed on them, and have also seen both with Rek-O-Kut arms on them. The type of arm gives no clue as to the make of broadcast turntable, as the arm and the TT were generally ordered separately. Gray Research & Development Co., Inc., was a subsidiary of The Gray Manufacturing Company. I have a Hartford CT address for the parent company and a Manchester (Hartford County) CT address for the Gray Research division. Both are in western CT, not western MA. Grado, Grace, and others also made wooden tonearms, but the only wooden arm I've seen in radio stations was Gray (or Micro Trak - see below). Gray also made metal arms popular with stations. The Gray's I'm used to were straight laminated wood arms. For a picture see: http://www.cognitivevent.com/av_lenco.html Scroll down to see a good shot of the arm, with the "g" printed on it. I think the LP-length (12") version was the Gray 303. IIRC it was also rebranded and sold as a Micro Trak 303,with the Micro Trak logo printed on it instead of the "g." Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZU / WZZI / WLNI / WVMP http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From sid@wrko.com Fri Oct 16 20:45:40 2009 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:45:40 -0600 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <000601ca4ead$bf4b1cc0$3de15640$@com> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com>, <000601ca4ead$bf4b1cc0$3de15640$@com> Message-ID: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC55271E605D@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> "Put them in a college radio station." Why? The well-equipped college stations use PC-based automation, and the poorly equipped ones have a 3.5mm pigtail coming out of the board for the students to hook up their laptops or MP3 players. Turntables are as irrelevant today as cart machines. Besides, the QRKs we're discussing in this thread (huge heavy platter driven by a rubber idler wheel), if firmly mounted on a solid base, produced so much rumble during playback that most stations stopped using them at least 30 years ago. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From heritageradio@msn.com Sat Oct 17 02:33:32 2009 From: heritageradio@msn.com (thomas heathwood) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:33:32 -0400 Subject: TURNTABLE QUESTION Message-ID: Responding to Mike's question about turntables, very popular and widely used at that time were the QRK brand which most frequently had a wooden tone arm. Tom Heathwood (If you are looking for one, contact me) From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Sat Oct 17 07:02:19 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:02:19 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net><0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091016171529.027a0e08@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: <34749A4D75D141079B18F8CB8B5AF92B@teddesktop> Broadcast turntables have made it to YouTube. Pretty interesting stuff. This is a Gates which we all remember well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SevSIMLEsoA&feature=related Here's a QRK. Can't imagine why there is no tonearm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw51ZzqyUIY You'll even find a Russco nostalgia site http://www.russcoturntables.com/ You'll also see many other broadcast related electronics videos. Have fun TL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale H. Cook" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 6:02 PM Subject: RE: quick turntable question > At 12:56 PM 10/16/2009, Sid Schweiger wrote: > >>Most likely a QRK. The wooden tonearm was made by a company out of >>western Massachusetts whose name escapes me for the moment. > > I've seen QRK and Gates TTs with Gray Research arms installed on them, and > have also seen both with Rek-O-Kut arms on them. The type of arm gives no > clue as to the make of broadcast turntable, as the arm and the TT were > generally ordered separately. > > Gray Research & Development Co., Inc., was a subsidiary of The Gray > Manufacturing Company. I have a Hartford CT address for the parent company > and a Manchester (Hartford County) CT address for the Gray Research > division. Both are in western CT, not western MA. > > Grado, Grace, and others also made wooden tonearms, but the only wooden > arm I've seen in radio stations was Gray (or Micro Trak - see below). Gray > also made metal arms popular with stations. The Gray's I'm used to were > straight laminated wood arms. For a picture see: > > http://www.cognitivevent.com/av_lenco.html > > Scroll down to see a good shot of the arm, with the "g" printed on it. I > think the LP-length (12") version was the Gray 303. IIRC it was also > rebranded and sold as a Micro Trak 303,with the Micro Trak logo printed on > it instead of the "g." > > Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, > VA - WZZU / WZZI / WLNI / WVMP > http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html > > From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Sat Oct 17 07:02:19 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:02:19 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net><0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091016171529.027a0e08@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: <34749A4D75D141079B18F8CB8B5AF92B@teddesktop> Broadcast turntables have made it to YouTube. Pretty interesting stuff. This is a Gates which we all remember well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SevSIMLEsoA&feature=related Here's a QRK. Can't imagine why there is no tonearm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw51ZzqyUIY You'll even find a Russco nostalgia site http://www.russcoturntables.com/ You'll also see many other broadcast related electronics videos. Have fun TL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale H. Cook" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 6:02 PM Subject: RE: quick turntable question > At 12:56 PM 10/16/2009, Sid Schweiger wrote: > >>Most likely a QRK. The wooden tonearm was made by a company out of >>western Massachusetts whose name escapes me for the moment. > > I've seen QRK and Gates TTs with Gray Research arms installed on them, and > have also seen both with Rek-O-Kut arms on them. The type of arm gives no > clue as to the make of broadcast turntable, as the arm and the TT were > generally ordered separately. > > Gray Research & Development Co., Inc., was a subsidiary of The Gray > Manufacturing Company. I have a Hartford CT address for the parent company > and a Manchester (Hartford County) CT address for the Gray Research > division. Both are in western CT, not western MA. > > Grado, Grace, and others also made wooden tonearms, but the only wooden > arm I've seen in radio stations was Gray (or Micro Trak - see below). Gray > also made metal arms popular with stations. The Gray's I'm used to were > straight laminated wood arms. For a picture see: > > http://www.cognitivevent.com/av_lenco.html > > Scroll down to see a good shot of the arm, with the "g" printed on it. I > think the LP-length (12") version was the Gray 303. IIRC it was also > rebranded and sold as a Micro Trak 303,with the Micro Trak logo printed on > it instead of the "g." > > Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, > VA - WZZU / WZZI / WLNI / WVMP > http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html > > From hykker@wildblue.net Sat Oct 17 20:35:45 2009 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:35:45 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC55271E605D@ENTCORMB2.etmcora d.com> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> <000601ca4ead$bf4b1cc0$3de15640$@com> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC55271E605D@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <4ada62ed.1602be0a.19e9.7798@mx.google.com> Sid Schweiger wrote: >"Put them in a college radio station." > >Why? The well-equipped college stations use PC-based automation, >and the poorly equipped ones have a 3.5mm pigtail coming out of the >board for the students to hook up their laptops or MP3 >players. Turntables are as irrelevant today as cart machines. What happened to the great vinyl resurgence that was supposedly being embraced by this generation? >Besides, the QRKs we're discussing in this thread (huge heavy >platter driven by a rubber idler wheel), if firmly mounted on a >solid base, produced so much rumble during playback that most >stations stopped using them at least 30 years ago. And this was before the rubber motor mounts got dry-rotted & the motor just kind of hung there creating even more rumble. From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Oct 18 01:36:09 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:36:09 -0500 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <4ada62ed.1602be0a.19e9.7798@mx.google.com> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net>, <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC55271E605D@ENTCORMB2.etmcora d.com>, <4ada62ed.1602be0a.19e9.7798@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4ADAA949.723.48E37C@joe.attorneyross.com> On 17 Oct 2009 at 20:35, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Sid Schweiger wrote: > >"Put them in a college radio station." > > > >Why? The well-equipped college stations use PC-based automation, and > >the poorly equipped ones have a 3.5mm pigtail coming out of the board > >for the students to hook up their laptops or MP3 players. Turntables > >are as irrelevant today as cart machines. > > What happened to the great vinyl resurgence that was supposedly being > embraced by this generation? When I was at WMUA at UMass Amherst last year, they still had three turntables in the control room, as well as multiple CD players. They only had one cassette deck, which at the time wasn't working. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From sid@wrko.com Sun Oct 18 10:48:19 2009 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:48:19 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <4ada62ed.1602be0a.19e9.7798@mx.google.com> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> <000601ca4ead$bf4b1cc0$3de15640$@com> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC55271E605D@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> <4ada62ed.1602be0a.19e9.7798@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC552766134D@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> "What happened to the great vinyl resurgence that was supposedly being embraced by this generation?" For that resurgence to occur, two things are necessary: turntables and something to play on them. The latter don't exist, outside of a few specialty shops that go out of their way to stock them. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From raccoonradio@mail.com Sun Oct 18 11:18:29 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:18:29 -0500 Subject: Herald article on FreeformBCN Message-ID: <20091018151829.BCAF583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Sam Kopper currently runs FreeformBCN on a WZLX HD signal and online as automated but there are plans to bring back famous WBCN voices to do shifts. "News dissector" Danny Schecter is already doing political commentaries. (But...how many HD radios are being sold these days for people to hear it other than online...?) http://bostonherald.com/entertainment/music/general/view/20091018rock_of_boston_reborn_ex-dj_brings_wbcn_to_hd_and_internet_radio/srvc=edge&position=also From attychase@comcast.net Sun Oct 18 13:29:27 2009 From: attychase@comcast.net (Robert S Chase) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:29:27 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question References: Message-ID: <30F30B1248764E648FB6B72CCB675B67@HomeOffice> Sounds like they are using exactly the same equipment they had back in 1967. Do they still have the dual Ampexs? I'm trying to remember the model numbers, were they 250 and 350 perhaps? The second Ampex they bought in 1967 I believe was the first to use solid state electronics. Bet the cart machine was the same one they bought then. Do they still have their "new" solid state Gates board? It replaced an old Collins tube one if I recall. They moved that into another studio as a production board. Do they still have that one also? I guess this explains why radio was such a good investment, after the initial cost, not much ever got replaced! BTW, it sounds like they simply lifted the equipment out of the Engineering School and moved it lock stock and barrel over to the Campus Center when that was built. Did they also move the studio partitions with their double glazed sound proof windows? > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:36:09 -0500 > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > > When I was at WMUA at UMass Amherst last year, they still had three > turntables in the control room, as well as multiple CD players. They > only had one cassette deck, which at the time wasn't working. From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Sun Oct 18 14:03:44 2009 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: quick turntable question Message-ID: <180114.85926.qm@web112115.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 10/18/09, Robert S Chase wrote: > Sounds like they are using exactly the same equipment they had back in >1967. Do they still have the dual Ampexs? ? ? Just before WMUA upgraded to 1 Kw and stereo in 1971, it got large amounts of new equipment to replace mono equipment. The Student Senate -- this is long before underwriting -- was very generous with money for the upgrade. So, the place was loaded up with top-line RCA boards,fancy stereo turntables, signal-processing units, etc. Althouhg I think stereo cart machines were on the market by then, we didn't get any. I have a hazy recollection that the engineers frowned on them for being trouble-prone and sounding bad. When I was last there about five years ago, at least one of those RCA boards survived, demoted to the newsroom. The newsroom also had one of the RCA 77 ribbon mics that were on the air back in the day. I didn't see the RCA 44 that was in the talk studio and often was used for recording PSA's, promos, et al, because of its great sound. Meanwhile, as far as I could see, the station still does very well as far as having good equipment. I imagine they have three turntables ready to go just because they can. It's lke a national historic site right in the studio. :) From paul.norton@gmail.com Sun Oct 18 16:50:51 2009 From: paul.norton@gmail.com (Paul Norton) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:50:51 -0700 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC552766134D@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> <000601ca4ead$bf4b1cc0$3de15640$@com> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC55271E605D@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> <4ada62ed.1602be0a.19e9.7798@mx.google.com> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC552766134D@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <4ADB7FAB.5030409@gmail.com> Sid Schweiger wrote: > "What happened to the great vinyl resurgence that was supposedly being > embraced by this generation?" > > For that resurgence to occur, two things are necessary: turntables and something to play on them. The latter don't exist, outside of a few specialty shops that go out of their way to stock them. I'm 27 and I only buy vinyl. Have since I was 13. I'm seeing more and more bands (both popular and underground) releasing vinyl these days. Even a lot of older releases (60's and 70s) are seeing remastered versions released on vinyl. While most shops don't carry them, you can purchase them all online (where I would imagine most music is purchased these days). Paul From audiskman@yahoo.com Sun Oct 18 22:24:46 2009 From: audiskman@yahoo.com (Matt S.) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: quick turntable question WOTW In-Reply-To: <180114.85926.qm@web112115.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <384965.65785.qm@web62002.mail.re1.yahoo.com> To confirm since I was there at WOTW from 1980-82..they were Russco Turntables installed new around 1978 when Bob Cohen and Mike Siegal took over the station as interim operators after Eastminster Broadcasting lost the license. Russco's were made in Fresno California. The tone arms were made of laminated wood and were made by Microtrak based in the Springfield Mass. area. Anything else you need to know..:) The cartridges were Stanton 500's I forget what the preamps were as they were hidden under the counter but they were new as well replacing some old tube units. The console was still the Altec 250_U which was really a recording console modified for broadcast use..sounded great when the tubes were kept fresh..we would still use the tube tester at Radio Shack at the Nashua Mall and buy replacements there. Does anyone at Radio Shack now even know what tubes were? Cart machines were new ITC triple deckers bought in 1980 and the processing was a used Dorrough DAP 310 that came from WHUE-FM. Since every couple years a thread begins on this topic.....yes we were in mono but had a stereo generator keeping the pilot on. Later we experimented with an Orban stereo synthesizer. From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sun Oct 18 22:50:07 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:50:07 -0500 Subject: quick turntable question WOTW In-Reply-To: <384965.65785.qm@web62002.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <180114.85926.qm@web112115.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <384965.65785.qm@web62002.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80910181950q420d5f93v2f946074a7581902@mail.gmail.com> Hey Matt, We had a WORKING (and occassionally used) Russco Pro turntable when I was at WABV 1590 back in late 06 to mid 08. WABV even had a working Gates, and later, a Radio Systems cart machine always loaded with a cart ready to go. Paul On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Matt S. wrote: > To confirm since I was there at WOTW from 1980-82..they were Russco > Turntables installed new around 1978 when Bob Cohen and Mike Siegal took > over the station as interim operators after Eastminster Broadcasting lost > the license. > > Russco's were made in Fresno California. The tone arms were made of > laminated wood and were made by Microtrak based in the Springfield Mass. > area. Anything else you need to know..:) The cartridges were Stanton 500's > I forget what the preamps were as they were hidden under the counter but > they were new as well replacing some old tube units. The console was still > the Altec 250_U which was really a recording console modified for broadcast > use..sounded great when the tubes were kept fresh..we would still use the > tube tester at Radio Shack at the Nashua Mall and buy replacements there. > Does anyone at Radio Shack now even know what tubes were? Cart machines were > new ITC triple deckers bought in 1980 and the processing was a used Dorrough > DAP 310 that came from WHUE-FM. Since every couple years a thread begins on > this topic.....yes we were in mono but had a stereo generator keeping the > pilot on. Later we experimented with an Orban stereo synthesizer. > > > > > > > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sun Oct 18 22:49:07 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:49:07 -0500 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <4ADB7FAB.5030409@gmail.com> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC5527660E40@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> <000601ca4ead$bf4b1cc0$3de15640$@com> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC55271E605D@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> <4ada62ed.1602be0a.19e9.7798@mx.google.com> <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC552766134D@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> <4ADB7FAB.5030409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80910181949q6b902afere343dd56e2f8d66c@mail.gmail.com> Im 25 and would buy vinyl if i had a record player since alot of the music I listen to (50s and 60s) is on a record anyways. We had a WORKING (and occassionally used) Russco Pro turntbale when I was at WABV 1590 Paul On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Paul Norton wrote: > Sid Schweiger wrote: > >> "What happened to the great vinyl resurgence that was supposedly being >> embraced by this generation?" >> >> For that resurgence to occur, two things are necessary: turntables and >> something to play on them. The latter don't exist, outside of a few >> specialty shops that go out of their way to stock them. >> > > I'm 27 and I only buy vinyl. Have since I was 13. I'm seeing more and > more bands (both popular and underground) releasing vinyl these days. Even a > lot of older releases (60's and 70s) are seeing remastered versions released > on vinyl. While most shops don't carry them, you can purchase them all > online (where I would imagine most music is purchased these days). > > Paul > From nostaticatall@charter.net Mon Oct 19 02:26:50 2009 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:26:50 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question WOTW In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80910181950q420d5f93v2f946074a7581902@mail.gmail.com> References: <180114.85926.qm@web112115.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <384965.65785.qm@web62002.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <8bce0fe80910181950q420d5f93v2f946074a7581902@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <111EE62E-CD9D-4F1B-A180-18543CB6807E@charter.net> Last I heard Scott Shannon still uses carts for his morning show on WPLJ/New York. He was not a big believer in digital playback for a long time. All of his beds, drops, sweeps and intro/outros were on carts lining the walls of the main studio even though the rest of the station was on the hard-drive. When I was at WBRS several years back, I did a reggae show that centered on older material. A good 60-70% of that show was off vinyl, and the station had two (usually) working turntables at that time. Even back then, I was one of the few people who actually used them. Playing songs off I-pods and laptops had become commonplace by the time I left in 2004. Even the CD's weren't being utilized all that much.... -Dave Tomm On Oct 18, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > Hey Matt, > > We had a WORKING (and occasionally used) Russco Pro turntable when I > was at > WABV 1590 back in late 06 to mid 08. > > WABV even had a working Gates, and later, a Radio Systems cart machine > always loaded with a cart ready to go. > From gallen2@nescaum.org Mon Oct 19 12:50:53 2009 From: gallen2@nescaum.org (George Allen) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:50:53 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The 1967 ampex would be the 440. The 350 was one heck of a workhorse tho... I don't recall it having tubes, but??? My fav for turntable would be the panasonic TECHNICS SP-10, back in the early-mid 70s. Direct drive, "no" rumble, but not good for non-classical use [no torque, slow start]. We used them back then at WCRB with an SME arm. I still have one that I use to put vinyl on CD for those keepers that I can't find a CD for. As for the vinyl revival, that makes sense for material that is only on vinyl. I can not understand those who insist it "sounds better" than a real CD [let's ignore MP3s here]. Yes, early CDs were not that great. They were mastered from stuff that was EQ'd for vinyl and thus had boost on the high end. I think it also took a while for the biz to realize that you needed to dither the signal with noise to avoid quantization distortion at low levels - mostly an issue for classical. But it didn't take too long for the biz to figure all this out, and I'll take a CD any day over the equivalent on vinyl. George ___________________________________________ At 12:00 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote: From: "Robert S Chase" Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:29:27 -0400 Subject: Re: quick turntable question Sounds like they are using exactly the same equipment they had back in 1967. Do they still have the dual Ampexs? I'm trying to remember the model numbers, were they 250 and 350 perhaps? The second Ampex they bought in 1967 I believe was the first to use solid state electronics. From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Oct 19 17:14:24 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:14:24 -0500 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <180114.85926.qm@web112115.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <180114.85926.qm@web112115.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4ADCD6B0.4178.9CFEAC@joe.attorneyross.com> On 18 Oct 2009 at 11:03, Martin Waters wrote: > ? ? Just before WMUA upgraded to 1 Kw and stereo in 1971, it got large > amounts of new equipment to replace mono equipment. The Student Senate > -- this is long before underwriting -- was very generous with money > for the upgrade. This is the way it was when I was there, both as a station member and a senator. I wish it could still be that way, but the philosophy is different now. > When I was last there about five years ago, at least one of those > RCA boards survived, demoted to the newsroom. The newsroom also had > one of the RCA 77 ribbon mics that were on the air back in the day. Exactly what do they need a board in the newsroom for? For that matter, when is there ever any news on WMUA? I never hear any? When I was there back in the 1960s, they had a UPI teletype near the entrance, and someone did the news on the hour. I suppose they get the news by computer now, but I never hear any newscasts. BTW, lately, I haven't been able to get WMUA online on my computer. Something seems to be wrong with the low-speed streaming. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Oct 19 17:14:24 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:14:24 -0500 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80910181949q6b902afere343dd56e2f8d66c@mail.gmail.com> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net>, <4ADB7FAB.5030409@gmail.com>, <8bce0fe80910181949q6b902afere343dd56e2f8d66c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ADCD6B0.18395.9D0090@joe.attorneyross.com> On 18 Oct 2009 at 21:49, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > Im 25 and would buy vinyl if i had a record player since alot of the > music I listen to (50s and 60s) is on a record anyways. I've seen old-style phonograps around in catalogs and online from time to time. There's also one that shows up in department stores and at Radio Shack now and then, a combination 3- or 4- speed record player, cassette player, and CD player. Trouble is, I'm not sure the sound quality of these things. I have a 4-speed turntable, which I bought from a person I knew and trusted some years ago at a yard sale. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From cohasset@frontiernet.net Mon Oct 19 19:56:02 2009 From: cohasset@frontiernet.net (Cohasset / Hippisley) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:56:02 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question Message-ID: <70BF6A37-21E3-412E-A08A-BD62E2B6DE11@frontiernet.net> Back in June, I was at MIT for a brunch celebrating the 100th anniversary of the MIT [Amateur] Radio Society, originally 1XM, now W1MX (HF) and W1XM (VHF/UHF). Also attending was Bob Clements, K1BC. Bob used to be control room engineer and substitute announcer for me on Rock 'n Roll Memory Time (Saturdays, 3 - 5 p.m.) at WMBR (then WTBS) in the early 60s, so after the brunch this summer he and I decided a rare visit to WMBR was in order. While there, I took a bunch of pix, a couple of which [first two links below] add to the current turntable discussion. Bob has graciously offered to host the pix on his web site, and has added one from his own collection [third link]. Finally, I've added a photo that was used by Technique, the MIT Yearbook, as the lead-in to the extracurricular activities section of the '62 yearbook. Notice the Ampex 350 on the right-hand side. There were at least two more of those in the racks in Master Control at the time. BTW, the Master Control console in the photographs was designed and built by the WTBS team of Nick Pryor, Ralph Zaorski, Chuck Martin, and Bud Hippisley as part of the move of WTBS from the basement of Ware dormitory ("You're listening to WTBS, coming to you from under Ware...") to the basement of dining hall Walker Memorial, about 100 yards away. Even though our programming was monaural, the console had stereo main + cue channels because we had to split our programming during "commercial" breaks, running PSAs and station programming promos on the non-commercial FM channel while playing the ubiquitous cigarette commercial transcription discs on the 640 kHz AM campus carrier current side. Probably the "fun-est" place to be on a Friday or Saturday night was standing at the rear of Master Control, watching the engineer on duty cueing up turntables and throwing console switches like crazy! Epilogue: In September, Bob stopped in at WMBR to give them a copy of my June photos. When he delivered the picture CD to them, the TTs in Master Control were in use (!), on the mid-day show "Lost and Found". Bud Hippisley Old Forge, NY ----------------- June 2009 picture of WMBR Master Control, showing two TTs: June 2009 picture of WMBR Control B, showing three TTs (and K1BC "now"): Circa 1963 picture of WTBS Master Control and K1BC ("then"), later used on a WMBR T-shirt: Circa 1961 picture of WTBS Control B, showing Bob (foreground), with me (background, doing my best to look like a cross between Buddy Holly and Clark Howard) in the Announce Booth, hosting RnRMT. ----------------- From cohasset@frontiernet.net Tue Oct 20 09:57:49 2009 From: cohasset@frontiernet.net (Cohasset / Hippisley) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:57:49 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <4ADCD6B0.18395.9D0090@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net>, <4ADB7FAB.5030409@gmail.com>, <8bce0fe80910181949q6b902afere343dd56e2f8d66c@mail.gmail.com> <4ADCD6B0.18395.9D0090@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <931BF39D-F752-4D85-BCA3-A133ADBDBB8A@frontiernet.net> On Oct 19, 2009, at 5:14 PM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > I've seen old-style phonograps around in catalogs and online from > time to time. There's also one that shows up in department stores > and at Radio Shack now and then, a combination 3- or 4- speed record > player, cassette player, and CD player. Trouble is, I'm not sure the > sound quality of these things. A related product is the combination turntable / CD-Audio recorder. They're in a higher price range but, as a class of products, my impression is that these all-in-one boxes are pretty poor. Marketed as an easy way to convert your vinyl collection to digital, they've not gotten very good reviews. A well-meaning relative of mine gave me one (a Teac) as a holiday gift a couple of years ago. The audio from the turntable source is awful, and quite tinny. My suspicion is that Teac engineers "forgot" to put in the RIAA playback equalization circuitry! > > I have a 4-speed turntable, which I bought from a person I knew and > trusted some years ago at a yard sale. I still have (and regularly use) my Miracord 50H 4-speed changer from the 60s. I had it completely reconditioned by a speciality audio repair shop a half-dozen years ago. The guy did a great job, but the design is inherently less than state-of-the-art with respect to rumble content and sensitivity to floor vibration. I've picked up two used turntables in the past decade, a Technics SL- DD2 and a Panasonic RD-2900, both direct drive. Neither one is particularly fast starting, but I can "slip cue" for home segues pretty well on either one of them with a circular piece of felt from my wife's sewing supplies. They're only 2-speed, so I still use the Miracord for my dad's 78s. The RD-2900 is a jewel, with very low rumble and superior immunity to floor bounce. For true DJ cueing applications, I've been assuming the Technics SL-1200 series was the way to go. Maybe someday.... Bud Hippisley From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Oct 20 17:20:34 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:20:34 -0400 Subject: quick turntable question In-Reply-To: <931BF39D-F752-4D85-BCA3-A133ADBDBB8A@frontiernet.net> References: <.132.185.144.120.1255709496.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> <4ADB7FAB.5030409@gmail.com> <8bce0fe80910181949q6b902afere343dd56e2f8d66c@mail.gmail.com> <4ADCD6B0.18395.9D0090@joe.attorneyross.com> <931BF39D-F752-4D85-BCA3-A133ADBDBB8A@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <19166.10658.209268.443909@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > one (a Teac) as a holiday gift a couple of years ago. The audio from > the turntable source is awful, and quite tinny. My suspicion is that > Teac engineers "forgot" to put in the RIAA playback equalization > circuitry! In theory, there's a bit you can set in a Red Book CD that says "this track has preemphasis". I don't know if any players actually implement it, or if it's even specified to be compatible with RIAA preemphasis (75 microsecond?). There's also a "this track has four-channel sound" bit which I've never heard of being used. -GAWollman From kvahey@comcast.net Thu Oct 22 20:25:43 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:25:43 -0500 Subject: Off to London Message-ID: <4fc429770910221725g283bdc5pd5c6edfda8ed8581@mail.gmail.com> Off to London to work Pats game Have my radio packed and switched to a 9 cycle :) What can I expect these days From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 23 00:59:54 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:59:54 -0400 Subject: Off to London In-Reply-To: <4fc429770910221725g283bdc5pd5c6edfda8ed8581@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770910221725g283bdc5pd5c6edfda8ed8581@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AE1384A.22198.67EBFF@joe.attorneyross.com> On 22 Oct 2009 at 19:25, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Off to London to work Pats game > > Have my radio packed and switched to a 9 cycle :) > > What can I expect these days Well, the BBC has a number of channels on AM and FM, and there are independent local stations as well, I believe. I've no idea what you can receive from the rest of Europe; and your ability to listen to any of it will depend on what other languages you can understand. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From markwa1ion@aol.com Fri Oct 23 10:47:01 2009 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:47:01 -0400 Subject: Off to London Message-ID: <8CC2206D058A6D2-2604-2586A@webmail-d080.sysops.aol.com> On AM your main BBC channels are 693, 882, and 909. The principal TalkSport channels are 1053 and 1089. They often talk sports but political and entertainment-world discussions get in there too. Absolute Radio is a pop/rock music channel with high power synchro rigs on 1215 kHz and low power repeaters on a number of other channels. There are numerous ethnic independent stations such as Sunrise Radio on 1458 which runs programming mostly for people from India. A few reports (actually from this side of the 'pond') give a bit of idea what you might hear of UK stations and other stuff skipping in from elsewhere in western Europe at night: http://www.naswa.net/badx/dxclams2009.htm http://www.bamlog.com/peidxped.htm http://www.dxing.info/dxpeditions/newfoundland_15.dx http://www.dxing.info/dxpeditions/billerica_rowley_2005_11.dx The definitive online guide to European AM ('medium wave' as known over there): http://www.emwg.info/ Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA << On 22 Oct 2009 at 19:25, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Off to London to work Pats game > > Have my radio packed and switched to a 9 cycle :) > > What can I expect these days Well, the BBC has a number of channels on AM and FM, and there are independent local stations as well, I believe. I've no idea what you can receive from the rest of Europe; and your ability to listen to any of it will depend on what other languages you can understand. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com >> From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Oct 23 11:22:05 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:22:05 -0400 Subject: Off to London In-Reply-To: <8CC2206D058A6D2-2604-2586A@webmail-d080.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC2206D058A6D2-2604-2586A@webmail-d080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <19169.51741.617421.109174@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < On AM your main BBC channels are 693, 882, and 909. Also World Service for Europe on 648 from Orford Ness; apparently the Dutch station Radio Nationaal is no longer using the 1296 from there. BBC Radio 4, the voice of the British middle class, is on FM and 198 kHz longwave (with slight differences in programming); Radios 1, 2, and 3 are on FM, and 1Xtra, 5 Live Sports Extra, 6 Music, and 7 are digital-only. Plus there's the Asian Network, which is on MW in the Midlands but is digital-only in London. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Fri Oct 23 12:00:55 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:00:55 -0400 Subject: Off to London In-Reply-To: <19169.51741.617421.109174@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <8CC2206D058A6D2-2604-2586A@webmail-d080.sysops.aol.com> <19169.51741.617421.109174@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4AE1D337.80903@fybush.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > < >> On AM your main BBC channels are 693, 882, and 909. > > Also World Service for Europe on 648 from Orford Ness; apparently the > Dutch station Radio Nationaal is no longer using the 1296 from there. > BBC Radio 4, the voice of the British middle class, is on FM and 198 > kHz longwave (with slight differences in programming); Radios 1, 2, > and 3 are on FM, and 1Xtra, 5 Live Sports Extra, 6 Music, and 7 are > digital-only. Plus there's the Asian Network, which is on MW in the > Midlands but is digital-only in London. 882 is BBC Wales (though the transmitter site in Washford is actually on the English side of the border, if memory serves) and is not a very useful signal in London. BBC R4 has a low-power London MW relay on 720. There is one full-market London MW signal that's gone unmentioned: 1152 was the old home of LBC, London's first private radio station, and I believe is now running LBC's all-news service (though it might have swapped places with LBC's talk service, which is, or was, on 97.4 FM or thereabouts.) There are also lower-powered MW services on 558 and 1035; I'm not sure what they're doing now, but they were doing ethnic "Spectrum Radio" and country, respectively, when I was there in 2002. There are commercial FM stations all up and down the dial, except for the portions reserved for the BBC (roughly speaking, 88-93 and around 98 MHz). Among the bigger ones are Capital FM on 95.8, Classic FM on 100.6 (part of a national FM network), xfm at 104.9, Kiss on 100.0, Heart on 106.2, Absolute Radio on 105.8 (simulcast with the national MW feed on 1215), and "Magic" on 105.4...or at least that's where it was a few years ago when I was last in London: http://www.fybush.com/site-020710.html s From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Oct 23 15:27:53 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:27:53 -0400 Subject: Off to London In-Reply-To: <19169.51741.617421.109174@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <8CC2206D058A6D2-2604-2586A@webmail-d080.sysops.aol.com> <19169.51741.617421.109174@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <0KRZ00COPFEKT140@asmtp019.mac.com> At 11:22 AM 10/23/2009, Garrett Wollman wrote: >< > > On AM your main BBC channels are 693, 882, and 909. > >Also World Service for Europe on 648 from Orford Ness; apparently the >Dutch station Radio Nationaal is no longer using the 1296 from there. >BBC Radio 4, the voice of the British middle class, is on FM and 198 >kHz longwave (with slight differences in programming); Radios 1, 2, >and 3 are on FM, and 1Xtra, 5 Live Sports Extra, 6 Music, and 7 are >digital-only. Plus there's the Asian Network, which is on MW in the >Midlands but is digital-only in London. Isn't there also the BBC local station for London somewhere on FM? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From scott@fybush.com Fri Oct 23 16:34:49 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:34:49 -0400 Subject: Off to London In-Reply-To: <0KRZ00COPFEKT140@asmtp019.mac.com> References: <8CC2206D058A6D2-2604-2586A@webmail-d080.sysops.aol.com> <19169.51741.617421.109174@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <0KRZ00COPFEKT140@asmtp019.mac.com> Message-ID: <4AE21369.80001@fybush.com> Larry Weil wrote: > Isn't there also the BBC local station for London somewhere on FM? Indeed there is. "BBC LDN" is what they're calling it lately, I think, and if memory serves, it's on (or near) 94.9 on FM. s From rac@gabrielmass.com Sat Oct 24 00:00:49 2009 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:00:49 -0400 Subject: R.I.P. Soupy Sales Message-ID: <4AE27BF1.5000700@server4.gabrielmass.com> The stars of my toddlerhood keep passing away: as a kid in Brooklyn in the mid-'60s, no weekday was complete for me without seeing Soupy Sales get a pie in the face or watching him deal with his dog-puppet co-stars White Fang (the "mean" dog) and Black Tooth (the "nice" dog"). R.I.P. http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/9000/9292292/Pie-splattered_comedian_Soupy_Sales_dies_at_83/full/ --RC From markwats@comcast.net Sat Oct 24 07:14:53 2009 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 07:14:53 -0400 Subject: R.I.P. Soupy Sales References: <4AE27BF1.5000700@server4.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: Richard Chonak wrote: > The stars of my toddlerhood keep passing away: as a kid in Brooklyn in the > mid-'60s, no weekday was complete for me without seeing Soupy Sales get a > pie in the face or watching him deal with his dog-puppet co-stars While I've only seen clips of Soupy's "kiddie" show, I remember him as being a regular on the 1970's syndicated revival of "What's My Line". IIRC didn't he also have a radio gig back in the early or mid 80's on WNBC? Mark Watson From rbello@belloassoc.com Sat Oct 24 12:30:28 2009 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:30:28 -0400 Subject: R.I.P. Soupy Sales In-Reply-To: References: <4AE27BF1.5000700@server4.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <90ec04420910240930j60d989epa6fbde6f916ac79@mail.gmail.com> Yes, he was on WNBC where he followed Don Imus and setup for Howard Stern On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Mark Watson wrote: > Richard Chonak wrote: > > The stars of my toddlerhood keep passing away: as a kid in Brooklyn in the >> mid-'60s, no weekday was complete for me without seeing Soupy Sales get a >> pie in the face or watching him deal with his dog-puppet co-stars >> > > While I've only seen clips of Soupy's "kiddie" show, I remember him as > being a regular on the 1970's syndicated revival of "What's My Line". > > IIRC didn't he also have a radio gig back in the early or mid 80's on > WNBC? > > Mark Watson > > From lglavin@mail.com Sat Oct 24 16:38:44 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:38:44 -0400 Subject: Newsweek Confuses Broadcasting and Cable TV Message-ID: <8CC23011D15FF18-73C-3084@web-mmc-d08.sysops.aol.com> The latest issue of Newsweek devotes a page to the emanations of TV broadcasting from the earliest days and how these signals may be reaching potential viewers elsewher in the Galaxy. First of all, Joe Biden apparently was right about FDR being on television...he just got the year wrong. Denizens of planets orbiting stars 60 light years away would be witnessing the earliest baseball telecasts as well as the aforementioned FDR speech. Closer to Earth, pictures of Milton Berle, Lucille Ball and Ernie Kovacs are just reaching locales 50 light years away and so forth. Ooops...here's where Newsweek's whimsy goes off the rails: not far from Proxima Centauri, they should be just getting Spongebob Squarepants and The Sopranos. These two are ON CABLE, not broadcast. Seinfeld yes, Spongebob no as far as electronic propagation is concerned. From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Oct 24 20:26:39 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:26:39 -0400 Subject: Newsweek Confuses Broadcasting and Cable TV In-Reply-To: <8CC23011D15FF18-73C-3084@web-mmc-d08.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC23011D15FF18-73C-3084@web-mmc-d08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: At 4:38 PM -0400 10/24/09, lglavin@mail.com wrote: > Ooops...here's where Newsweek's whimsy goes off the rails: not far >from Proxima Centauri, they >should be just getting Spongebob Squarepants and The Sopranos. >These two are ON CABLE, not broadcast. >Seinfeld yes, Spongebob no as far as electronic propagation is concerned. Shows that were not on broadcast TV in the US may have been on broadcast TV in other countries. I know that The Sopranos was on OTA in Canada. As for other programs, how do you think they reach the cable companies? They are uplinked to a satellite, and I'm sure some (most?) of the signal misses the bird and goes furter off into the heavens. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dave@skywaves.net Sat Oct 24 21:27:09 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:27:09 -0400 Subject: Newsweek Confuses Broadcasting and Cable TV In-Reply-To: References: <8CC23011D15FF18-73C-3084@web-mmc-d08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: > They are uplinked to a satellite, and I'm sure some (most?) of the signal > misses the bird and goes furter off into the heavens. For practical purposes, 100% of the signal from an earth station goes off into the heavens. And it goes on a direct path and with far less interference than emanations from the TV stations, which rarely have much of a vertical component at all. As for receivability from far off, sorry to rain on the parade. Each signal will show up very briefly, once every 24 Earth hours. It's very doubtful that an intelligent being would get anything useful from that, other than the fact that we're out here. Once you get away from the geostationary orbit, which is very close to the surface of the plant in astronomical terms, it takes a lot of energy to stay sync'ed with the surface of the earth. But that is what it would take to get a usable signal for the duration of even a single show. Not too far out, you'd have to be travelling nearly at the speed of light and offsetting various gravitational influences. So the idea of folks on planets 60 light years away watching "I Love Lucy" reruns is a nice concept, but utterly out of the question unless they send a robot here to capture them somehow and beam them back. Assuming they respond instantly and the robot travels at the speed of light, they won't see any programs for another 120 years. -d From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Sun Oct 25 02:48:56 2009 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 02:48:56 -0400 Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again Message-ID: <4AE3F4D8.1040900@ttlc.net> WBZ on Saturday between 11:00 am & 4:00 pm. Around Noon, the Accu-Weather guys had changed to closing their cast with "I'm Accu-Weather's for WBZ..." Yet BZ announcers were still saying "Here's Accu-Weather Meteorolgist " By 4:00 pm. the Accu-Weather guys were back to closing with "I'm Accu-Weather Meteorologist for WBZ..." Is it possible that those who have a hard time pronouncing 'Meteorologist' are allowed to drop it? From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sun Oct 25 07:03:56 2009 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:03:56 -0400 Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again References: <4AE3F4D8.1040900@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <54BF9A4DB3F84CA7ACC47270D03F3EDD@Family> Roger it's possible that not all AccuWeather broadcasters are meteorologists. and it could be that not all WBZ staffers are aware of who is or isn't. i recall asking that of one my TV weather buddies - why so&so was "meteorologist" yet others were just "name." he said that others are not necessarily meteorologists, and therefore can't be called such. - - Chuck Igo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kirk" To: Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 2:48 AM Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again > WBZ on Saturday between 11:00 am & 4:00 pm. Around Noon, the > Accu-Weather guys had changed to closing their cast with "I'm > Accu-Weather's for WBZ..." > > Yet BZ announcers were still saying "Here's Accu-Weather Meteorolgist > " > > By 4:00 pm. the Accu-Weather guys were back to closing with "I'm > Accu-Weather Meteorologist for WBZ..." > > Is it possible that those who have a hard time pronouncing > 'Meteorologist' are allowed to drop it? > > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Oct 25 10:16:39 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:16:39 -0400 Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again References: <4AE3F4D8.1040900@ttlc.net> <54BF9A4DB3F84CA7ACC47270D03F3EDD@Family> Message-ID: <21E501DE5A174562AD789050D043F2AC@SatU205S5044> But one of the Accu-Weather meteorologists, Bowers, IIRC, embarassingly for him, is apparently unable to pronounce the word meteorologist. He always said meteorolist, leaving out that one pesky syllable that, I presume, tripped him up. IMO, that omission or mispronunciation made him stand out as both ridiculous and not credible. So perhaps this change was made to accommodate Mr Bowers' unique disability. I'm not joking. He might have sued under the Americans with Disabilities Act, and what you're hearing could be the resolution of the legal case. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Igo" To: "Roger Kirk" ; Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:03 AM Subject: Re: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again > Roger > > it's possible that not all AccuWeather broadcasters are > meteorologists. and it could be that not all WBZ staffers are aware > of who is or isn't. > > i recall asking that of one my TV weather buddies - why so&so was > "meteorologist" yet others were just "name." he said that others > are not > necessarily meteorologists, and therefore can't be called such. > > - - Chuck Igo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Kirk" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 2:48 AM > Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again > > >> WBZ on Saturday between 11:00 am & 4:00 pm. Around Noon, the >> Accu-Weather guys had changed to closing their cast with "I'm >> Accu-Weather's for WBZ..." >> >> Yet BZ announcers were still saying "Here's Accu-Weather >> Meteorolgist >> " >> >> By 4:00 pm. the Accu-Weather guys were back to closing with "I'm >> Accu-Weather Meteorologist for WBZ..." >> >> Is it possible that those who have a hard time pronouncing >> 'Meteorologist' are allowed to drop it? >> >> >> >> > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sun Oct 25 10:57:55 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:57:55 -0500 Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again In-Reply-To: <21E501DE5A174562AD789050D043F2AC@SatU205S5044> References: <4AE3F4D8.1040900@ttlc.net> <54BF9A4DB3F84CA7ACC47270D03F3EDD@Family> <21E501DE5A174562AD789050D043F2AC@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80910250757s57de8ed4g9237b8d57f017d87@mail.gmail.com> Dan, I think that's a stretch just a bit. I think it's simply some of the weather forecasters are meteorologists and some arent. Paul Walker www.facebook.com/onairdj On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > But one of the Accu-Weather meteorologists, Bowers, IIRC, > embarassingly for him, is apparently unable to pronounce the word > meteorologist. He always said meteorolist, leaving out that one pesky > syllable that, I presume, tripped him up. IMO, that omission or > mispronunciation made him stand out as both ridiculous and not > credible. So perhaps this change was made to accommodate Mr Bowers' > unique disability. I'm not joking. He might have sued under the > Americans with Disabilities Act, and what you're hearing could be the > resolution of the legal case. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Igo" > To: "Roger Kirk" ; > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:03 AM > Subject: Re: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again > > > Roger >> >> it's possible that not all AccuWeather broadcasters are >> meteorologists. and it could be that not all WBZ staffers are aware >> of who is or isn't. >> >> i recall asking that of one my TV weather buddies - why so&so was >> "meteorologist" yet others were just "name." he said that others >> are not >> necessarily meteorologists, and therefore can't be called such. >> >> - - Chuck Igo >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kirk" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 2:48 AM >> Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again >> >> >> WBZ on Saturday between 11:00 am & 4:00 pm. Around Noon, the >>> Accu-Weather guys had changed to closing their cast with "I'm >>> Accu-Weather's for WBZ..." >>> >>> Yet BZ announcers were still saying "Here's Accu-Weather >>> Meteorolgist >>> " >>> >>> By 4:00 pm. the Accu-Weather guys were back to closing with "I'm >>> Accu-Weather Meteorologist for WBZ..." >>> >>> Is it possible that those who have a hard time pronouncing >>> 'Meteorologist' are allowed to drop it? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Oct 25 12:19:40 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:19:40 -0400 Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80910250757s57de8ed4g9237b8d57f017d87@mail.gmail.com> References: <4AE3F4D8.1040900@ttlc.net> <54BF9A4DB3F84CA7ACC47270D03F3EDD@Family> <21E501DE5A174562AD789050D043F2AC@SatU205S5044> <8bce0fe80910250757s57de8ed4g9237b8d57f017d87@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <19172.31388.930892.359163@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Dan, I think that's a stretch just a bit. I think it's simply some of the > weather forecasters are meteorologists and some arent. There's really no earthly reason, other than bogus marketing, for any of them to be meterologists. They're just reading a forecast (made, in most cases, by computer models) into a microphone attached to a recording device. (Most Accu forecasts aren't read live, as is made abundantly clear on those occasions when they accidentally play the previous day's forecast.) -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Oct 25 13:54:36 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:54:36 -0400 Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again References: <4AE3F4D8.1040900@ttlc.net><54BF9A4DB3F84CA7ACC47270D03F3EDD@Family><21E501DE5A174562AD789050D043F2AC@SatU205S5044><8bce0fe80910250757s57de8ed4g9237b8d57f017d87@mail.gmail.com> <19172.31388.930892.359163@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <7A53BE5902C045F78EED9F66AD680FA3@SatU205S5044> However, I think the public would respond very negatively if WBZ were to replace the recorded voicings with text articulation by the NWS's "Perfect Paul." Nevertheless, having an automated voice articulate the forecast would provide a listener benefit: I don't think I am unique in telling myself, "Listen, dammit; you mustn't miss the forecast," only to realize at 12 or 22 or 42 or 52 minutes past the hour that my attention had flagged a couple of minutes earlier when the forecast was on. I suspect that the automated voice would stand out from the cacaphony of human voices and listeners would be much less likely to miss the forecasts when they felt they HAD to hear them. But I don't think WBZ could save the big $$$ it pays Accu-Weather by simply recording the forecasts from the NWS VHF weather service; the Accu-Weather forecasts are much more succinct. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: Re: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again > < said: > >> Dan, I think that's a stretch just a bit. I think it's simply some >> of the >> weather forecasters are meteorologists and some arent. > > There's really no earthly reason, other than bogus marketing, for > any > of them to be meterologists. They're just reading a forecast (made, > in most cases, by computer models) into a microphone attached to a > recording device. (Most Accu forecasts aren't read live, as is made > abundantly clear on those occasions when they accidentally play the > previous day's forecast.) > > -GAWollman From dave@skywaves.net Sun Oct 25 22:17:16 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:17:16 -0400 Subject: WBZ-TV and the change to Eastern Standard Time NEXT weekend? In-Reply-To: <7A53BE5902C045F78EED9F66AD680FA3@SatU205S5044> References: <4AE3F4D8.1040900@ttlc.net><54BF9A4DB3F84CA7ACC47270D03F3EDD@Family><21E501DE5A174562AD789050D043F2AC@SatU205S5044><8bce0fe80910250757s57de8ed4g9237b8d57f017d87@mail.gmail.com><19172.31388.930892.359163@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <7A53BE5902C045F78EED9F66AD680FA3@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: Hi, all- On tonight's news program, the little call sign / logo / current time widget on the lower right corner of the screen showed the time in Eastern Standard Time. They aired the Patriots / Tampa Bay game from London earlier in the day. The UK went to standard time last night, but we don't move to standard time until next weekend. So I thought when they switched to 60 Minutes, which airs at 7-8PM Eastern, we might have seen something else. But 60 Mins came up as planned, only an hour later than CBS.com says it should air. I can't wait to see whether they air the 11PM newscast at eleven or midnight... -d From scott@fybush.com Sun Oct 25 23:10:38 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:10:38 -0400 Subject: WBZ-TV and the change to Eastern Standard Time NEXT weekend? In-Reply-To: References: <4AE3F4D8.1040900@ttlc.net><54BF9A4DB3F84CA7ACC47270D03F3EDD@Family><21E501DE5A174562AD789050D043F2AC@SatU205S5044><8bce0fe80910250757s57de8ed4g9237b8d57f017d87@mail.gmail.com><19172.31388.930892.359163@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <7A53BE5902C045F78EED9F66AD680FA3@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4AE5132E.5010503@fybush.com> Dave Doherty wrote: > Hi, all- > > On tonight's news program, the little call sign / logo / current time > widget on the lower right corner of the screen showed the time in > Eastern Standard Time. They aired the Patriots / Tampa Bay game from > London earlier in the day. The UK went to standard time last night, but > we don't move to standard time until next weekend. So I thought when > they switched to 60 Minutes, which airs at 7-8PM Eastern, we might have > seen something else. But 60 Mins came up as planned, only an hour later > than CBS.com says it should air. > > I can't wait to see whether they air the 11PM newscast at eleven or > midnight... The bug on WBZ-TV must be powered by my bedroom VCR, which auto-switched to EST this morning, too! Hmmm...if I reset it to the correct time, will channel 4 drop back an hour, too? s From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Oct 26 02:14:04 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:14:04 -0500 Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again In-Reply-To: <19172.31388.930892.359163@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <4AE3F4D8.1040900@ttlc.net>, <8bce0fe80910250757s57de8ed4g9237b8d57f017d87@mail.gmail.com>, <19172.31388.930892.359163@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4AE53E2C.7878.BFAF59@joe.attorneyross.com> On 25 Oct 2009 at 12:19, Garrett Wollman wrote: > There's really no earthly reason, other than bogus marketing, for any > of them to be meterologists. They're just reading a forecast (made, > in most cases, by computer models) into a microphone attached to a > recording device. (Most Accu forecasts aren't read live, as is made > abundantly clear on those occasions when they accidentally play the > previous day's forecast.) Reminds me of the time, back when I was a freshman at UMass, when I got the wrong weather forecast to read during a newscast. It was obviously wrong -- much colder or much warmer than the actual weather that day -- but I couldn't find a better one. So I read it, but I had trouble supressing giggles on the air. By the next newscast, a new forecast had come in on the teletype. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dave@skywaves.net Mon Oct 26 10:08:51 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:08:51 -0400 Subject: WBZ-TV and the change to Eastern Standard Time NEXT weekend? In-Reply-To: <4AE5132E.5010503@fybush.com> References: <4AE3F4D8.1040900@ttlc.net><54BF9A4DB3F84CA7ACC47270D03F3EDD@Family><21E501DE5A174562AD789050D043F2AC@SatU205S5044><8bce0fe80910250757s57de8ed4g9237b8d57f017d87@mail.gmail.com><19172.31388.930892.359163@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <7A53BE5902C045F78EED9F66AD680FA3@SatU205S5044> <4AE5132E.5010503@fybush.com> Message-ID: <725CE93FC152467791665E12BF14D4E5@dave> They did get it together by the 11PM news. I wasn't watching throughout the evening, but my wife said she noticed in the middle of one program that she was suddenly watching something else. It looks like they made the change without you, Scott! :-) From radio88@radio88.net Mon Oct 26 12:54:55 2009 From: radio88@radio88.net (Todd Glickman) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:54:55 -0400 Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again Message-ID: <35BB20F8-9495-4F16-9F50-A2D70B2AB807@radio88.net> I can't comment on the situation at WBZ, but I can comment on the word "meteorologist," that can be very difficult to say! I have trouble sometimes myself... and I've been saying it for 30+ years on the same radio station in my very best native New York accent. One trick some people use is to break it into two words, and say them fast: meaty- urologist. Just don't think about what you're saying :-) That being said, the American Meteorological Society (AMS) has been working for a long time to elevate the stature of those of us in the profession who work in broadcasting. (There are about 20,000 meteorologists in the US, approximately 1/3 work in goverment; 1/3 in research/academia, and 1/3 in the private sector. Fewer than 1,000 are in broadcasting.) It turns out because there is no national nor state licensing, anyone can call him/herself a meteorologist. Developed in the 1960s, the AMS had a peer-reviewed "Seal of Approval" program for radio and TV, but the entry bar was pretty low. Two years ago, the AMS's program was relaunched and strengthened as the "Certified Broadcast Meteorologist" (CBM) program. (Those who have the Seal of Approval may continue to use it until retirement, but no new ones are being awarded. Those who have the Seal and are eligible for the CBM are encouraged to upgrade.) There are four hurdles to be awarded the CBM: (1) A bachelor's degree in atmospheric sciences or equivalent http://www.ametsoc.org/POLICY/statement_2005_BS_degree_atmospheric_science.html (2) A closed-book exam that includes questions from basic and applied meteorology, new observing and analysis systems, and also related sciences (hydrology, seismology, etc.) Here's the study guide index: http://www.ametsoc.org/amscert/cbmstudyguide.html (3) A peer review of your broadcasts (4) Continuing education that is tracked and monitored. You can read more about the program here: http://www.ametsoc.org/amscert/index.html#cbm The CBM closed-book exam is pretty tough. I had to study for it, despite having been practicing meteorology and being on-air continuously since the 70s, and keeping up with new technologies and systems through my work first in the private sector, then on AMS staff, and subsequently at MIT. Currently, I serve as Chair of the Appeals Committee, that reviews appeals from those who do not pass the peer review, and I can say with confidence that the peer review bar is set very high. Why would you want a degreed, certified meteorologist as your weather reporter on TV or radio? For 95% of the situations, it probably doesn't matter -- and doing a rip/read of the NWS generic zones forecasts would be fine. But during severe weather, conflicting computer model runs, emergencies, etc., having a trained expert is important. It's just like medicine -- most of the time the diagnosis is easy, but for the tough cases, you want a doctor who is well schooled, has good experience, and a deep understanding of what's going on. Remember, meteorology is an exact science. But predicting the future is not! ========================== Todd Glickman Certified Broadcast Meteorologist WCBS Newsradio-880 New York City, NY Email: radio88@radio88.net http://www.radioweather.net Todd Glickman '77 Associate Director, Office of Corporate Relations Massachusetts Institute of Technology, W98-400 600 Memorial Drive, 4th Floor Cambridge, MA 02139 Email: glickman@mit.edu Phone: (617) 452-2457 From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Oct 26 13:02:06 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:02:06 -0400 Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again In-Reply-To: <35BB20F8-9495-4F16-9F50-A2D70B2AB807@radio88.net> References: <35BB20F8-9495-4F16-9F50-A2D70B2AB807@radio88.net> Message-ID: <19173.54798.213291.291093@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Why would you want a degreed, certified meteorologist as your weather > reporter on TV or radio? For 95% of the situations, it probably > doesn't matter -- and doing a rip/read of the NWS generic zones > forecasts would be fine. But during severe weather, conflicting > computer model runs, emergencies, etc., having a trained expert is > important. That doesn't, IMHO, mean that the person who reads the forecast on the air must necessarily be the person who writes the script. We somehow have gotten fixated on the idea that the performer on screen (or in front of the mike) has to actually know something about the weather. -GAWollman From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Mon Oct 26 15:02:34 2009 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:02:34 -0400 Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again In-Reply-To: <35BB20F8-9495-4F16-9F50-A2D70B2AB807@radio88.net> References: <35BB20F8-9495-4F16-9F50-A2D70B2AB807@radio88.net> Message-ID: <4AE5F24A.2050206@ttlc.net> Today Eric Wilhelm was saying "I'm Accu-Weather's Eric Wilhelm for WBZ..." Additionally, BZ on-air personnel say "Accu-Weather" every time tey would have previously jsut said "weather." They also promote upcoming weather sets much more frequently than before. From heritageradio@msn.com Tue Oct 27 03:17:57 2009 From: heritageradio@msn.com (thomas heathwood) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:17:57 -0400 Subject: WEATHER FORCASTERS Message-ID: In addition to troubles saying "meteorolist" one of the ACCU-WEATHER guys can't properly pronounce "WBZ" - but swallows part of it, so it comes out "Dub-U B Z" The latter has been ongoing for a long time. <> From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Oct 27 13:09:54 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:09:54 -0400 Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again In-Reply-To: <35BB20F8-9495-4F16-9F50-A2D70B2AB807@radio88.net> References: <35BB20F8-9495-4F16-9F50-A2D70B2AB807@radio88.net> Message-ID: <20091027170959.C6DBD1B585F@relay20.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 12:54 PM 10/26/2009, Todd Glickman wrote: >It turns out because there is no national nor >state licensing, anyone can call him/herself a meteorologist. And in radio's early years, that's kind of what happened, with anyone who wanted to predict the weather doing so. But gradually, the field did get professionalized. Perhaps the first and best known local radio weatherman in Boston was E.B. Rideout (the E stood for Edward). His name became synonymous with forecasting. And as early as 1925, the press referred to him as a meteorologist. E.B. was known to have excellent credentials in the study of atmospheric conditions, and other factors related to forecasting-- given how primitive (compared to what weathercasters have today) his available equipment was, it's amazing he was as accurate as he was. E.B. Rideout was, of course, on the old WEEI (Edison Electric Illuminating Company). WBZ's first meteorologist was also experienced in the actual science of weather forecasting-- Geoffrey H. Noyes came from the U.S. Weather Bureau, which is also where Rideout had worked before going into broadcasting. From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Tue Oct 27 14:05:39 2009 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:05:39 -0400 Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again In-Reply-To: <20091027170959.C6DBD1B585F@relay20.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <35BB20F8-9495-4F16-9F50-A2D70B2AB807@radio88.net> <20091027170959.C6DBD1B585F@relay20.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20091027135922.02712da8@plymouthcolony.net> At 01:09 PM 10/27/2009, Donna Halper wrote: >WBZ's first meteorologist was also experienced in the actual science >of weather forecasting I well remember the first (IIRC) man to do TV forecasts in Boston - Don Kent, who started forecasting while in the Coast Guard. My brother and I grew up watching and listening to Don, and partly because of that my brother earned his B.S. and M.S. in meteorology, and has spent his career in meteorological research at Argonne. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZU / WZZI / WLNI / WVMP http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Oct 28 01:35:43 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:35:43 -0500 Subject: WEATHER FORCASTERS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AE7D82F.31909.562ECE@joe.attorneyross.com> On 27 Oct 2009 at 3:17, thomas heathwood wrote: > In addition to troubles saying "meteorolist" one of the ACCU-WEATHER > guys can't properly pronounce "WBZ" - but swallows part of it, so it > comes out "Dub-U B Z" The latter has been ongoing for a long time. > <> I'm surprised these people can pronounce ACCU-WEATHER! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@comcast.net Wed Oct 28 01:54:23 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:54:23 -0500 Subject: How much worse can it get? Message-ID: <4fc429770910272254q6efa3deby5967982395b1ddc4@mail.gmail.com> While this not exactly broadcast related it shows just how bleak things are in the old media world. The numbers for the Boston Globe are staggering. This is a paper that was close to 500,000 copies a day 15 years ago. http://www.fresnobee.com/state_wire/business/v-textonly/story/1687210.html A month ago a Bangor radio owner (who is also an author) just lamented about radio billings that don't exist. http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20304270,00.html I couldn't help but noticing that in the UK newspapers and radio seem to be holding their own with ads (I have no idea what the rate card looks like) but it was nice to hear radio for a few days without hearing the Cars For Kids PSA :) I also didn't need to hear Frank from Gloucester on TalkSport Saturday morning either....though I think it was a set up because after he talked about the Pats they asked him if he was a Red Sox fan. From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Oct 28 11:43:52 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:43:52 -0500 Subject: Does Fox Sports have a new home in Boston? Message-ID: <20091028154353.0D918905C49@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> http://twitter.com/bostonradio >>So @JTTheBrick signed off WEEI for the final time this morning. He said he already has a new Boston signal to carry him. @bostonradio (Boston Radio Watch) tweeted the JT The Brick bid farewell to his WEEI listeners but said he had a new home for his show (from Fox Sports Radio) lined up in Boston (I guess JT is off tonight so last night was his 850 swan song). BRW mentioned 3 possibilities...which one? --890: Dark since mid Sept. but could they go back on with Fox Sports Radio 24/7? At least it would have something for them to run (poss. sale?) --98.5: Would they jettison Sporting News Radio so soon? Or poss. pick up just a show or two, like JT? --1510: For the night and overnight hours, weekends too. SNR has 98.5 nights and weekends so 1510 could pick up Fox and cast aside SNR Others: --Highly remote but there is a connection between Clear Channel and Premiere, which produces and syndicates Fox Sports. I highly doubt they would dump Spanish at 1200 (Rumba) and 1430 (Mia). Do they think enough people would want FSR instead? --If WEEI did do the ESPN to 850, WEEI to FM move conceivably the FM could run Fox Sports overnight and have ESPN on the AM but that would mean JT & friends wouldn't be leaving WEEI after all. I would think 1510 and 890 are the most likely possibilities From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Oct 28 11:49:49 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:49:49 -0500 Subject: Does Fox Sports have a new home in Boston? In-Reply-To: <20091028154353.0D918905C49@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20091028154353.0D918905C49@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80910280849q177e3366n5b3432fb170868b9@mail.gmail.com> I highly doubt it'll be on 1510, as Davidson Media's operating method is "you pay, we play"... so unless someone is going to pay for block time, it ain't happening. Plus, how successful could sports be surrounded by a bunch of paid progrmaming on a less then stellar night signal. And if 890 jettisoned sports just recently, why would they brnig it back? You have some interesting theories, sometimes. Paul On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > http://twitter.com/bostonradio > > >>So @JTTheBrick signed off WEEI for the final time this morning. He said > he already has a new Boston signal to carry him. > > @bostonradio (Boston Radio Watch) tweeted the JT The Brick bid farewell to > his WEEI listeners but said he had a new home for his show > (from Fox Sports Radio) lined up in Boston (I guess JT is off tonight so > last night was his 850 swan song). BRW > mentioned 3 possibilities...which one? > > --890: Dark since mid Sept. but could they go back on with Fox Sports Radio > 24/7? At least it would have something for them to run (poss. sale?) > > --98.5: Would they jettison Sporting News Radio so soon? Or poss. pick up > just a show or two, like JT? > > --1510: For the night and overnight hours, weekends too. SNR has 98.5 > nights and weekends so 1510 could > pick up Fox and cast aside SNR > > Others: > --Highly remote but there is a connection between Clear Channel and > Premiere, which produces and > syndicates Fox Sports. I highly doubt they would dump Spanish at 1200 > (Rumba) and 1430 (Mia). Do they > think enough people would want FSR instead? > > --If WEEI did do the ESPN to 850, WEEI to FM move conceivably the FM could > run Fox Sports overnight and have ESPN on the AM but that would mean JT & > friends wouldn't be leaving WEEI after all. > > I would think 1510 and 890 are the most likely possibilities > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Wed Oct 28 11:58:09 2009 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:58:09 -0400 Subject: Does Fox Sports have a new home in Boston? In-Reply-To: <20091028154353.0D918905C49@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20091028154353.0D918905C49@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20091028115625.026d8b58@plymouthcolony.net> At 11:43 AM 10/28/2009, Bob Nelson wrote: >there is a connection between Clear Channel and Premiere They are essentially one and the same - Premiere Radio Networks is a division of Clear Channel Worldwide. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZU / WZZI / WLNI / WVMP http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Oct 28 12:07:17 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:07:17 -0500 Subject: Does Fox Sports have a new home in Boston? Message-ID: <20091028160717.B00C2905C49@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> SNR has no problem with still being on 1510 as well as 98.5 (certainly SNR gets to clear 7-11 pm weeknights as 98.5 either has D.A. or the Bruins). I can't see 98.5 getting rid of SNR a mere 2 and a half months after they debuted; carrying just J.T.'s show (does he have that big a cult following?) is a possibility but who knows. Paul said: >>I highly doubt it'll be on 1510, as Davidson Media's operating method is "you pay, we play"... so unless someone is going to pay for block time, it ain't happening. Plus, how successful could sports be surrounded by a bunch of paid progrmaming on a less then stellar night signal. ? Good points! >>And if 890 jettisoned sports just recently, why would they brnig it back? Well I don't know if they're for sale or not but some say it's better to sell a station that's active rather than dark. I think the deal with 890 was that ESPN pulled their affiliation away; this meant the local show(s) had to go too as money was probably tight (what else was 890 going to put on, with no ESPN?). The decision was probably made by ESPN to part ways, I believe, as they wanted a stronger station (and WEEI was probably wooing them) I don't see 1200 or 1430 picking up Fox Sports but I could be wrong. There is the connection between Premiere and Clear Channel. But could yet another sports signal work here? Does the Spanish programming make money for them? (Guessing it does...) A remote possibility might be them putting it on 1430 (now "mia") and keeping Rumba on 1200. But again, I would expect it to be 890 or 1510--though you did make good points. But apparently Mark S. heard J.T. say, or he found out somehow, that he has someone to carry his show in Boston. No idea whom just yet. From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Oct 29 03:14:06 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:14:06 -0500 Subject: Spanish on 1400: WLLH or a pirate? Message-ID: <20091029071407.432E283985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Yesterday just before 5 pm I noticed something on 1400, while driving on Rt 128 in Peabody. It was a loop of Spanish language talk (echoed) and synthesizer noises and it seemed to say something like "we are preparing...more music...are you ready?" if my translation was right. The signal was quite strong and I wondered if it was a pirate from Lynn or Peabody (the echo was so much that it was tough to make out what was being said). Or is it WLLH 1400 turning on again? The signal got slightly weaker when I got into downtown Lynnfield... From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Oct 29 05:51:44 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:51:44 -0400 Subject: Spanish on 1400: WLLH or a pirate? References: <20091029071407.432E283985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Did you try to see whether the same program (or any program) was on 890? Or was WLS all you could hear? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:14 AM Subject: Spanish on 1400: WLLH or a pirate? Yesterday just before 5 pm I noticed something on 1400, while driving on Rt 128 in Peabody. It was a loop of Spanish language talk (echoed) and synthesizer noises and it seemed to say something like "we are preparing...more music...are you ready?" if my translation was right. The signal was quite strong and I wondered if it was a pirate from Lynn or Peabody (the echo was so much that it was tough to make out what was being said). Or is it WLLH 1400 turning on again? The signal got slightly weaker when I got into downtown Lynnfield... From gary@garysicecream.com Thu Oct 29 08:08:13 2009 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:08:13 -0400 Subject: 1400 Message-ID: If there is something on 1400....then it has to be the Lawrence transmitter only.....I was sitting in front of the Lowell site last night and it was not turned on. Couldn't tell if it was Lawrence or further away. Gary From mike@miscon.net Thu Oct 29 09:24:52 2009 From: mike@miscon.net (mike@miscon.net) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:24:52 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: 1400 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <.65.96.208.107.1256822692.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> > If there is something on 1400....then it has to be the Lawrence > transmitter > only.....I was sitting in front of the Lowell site last night and it was > not > turned on. Couldn't tell if it was Lawrence or further away. > > Gary To think that the last of ("olden-days") dual synchronous transmitter facilities is dark, saddens me. But every time someone mentions it, it reminds me that I have to dig up some of the old WLLH Westinghouse transmitter paperwork I gathered up from 4 Broadway, when they left there to go to Church Street. Should I get around to finding it, does anyone have any suggestions for an appropriate home for this material? (and I'm trying to avoid private collections) Mike From gary@garysicecream.com Thu Oct 29 09:30:59 2009 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:30:59 -0400 Subject: 1400 In-Reply-To: <.65.96.208.107.1256822692.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> References: <.65.96.208.107.1256822692.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Message-ID: <710D4B4BF5154B17A8D05DCE08D8F372@Main> How about the Museum of Broadcast Technology in Providence..... _____ From: mike@miscon.net [mailto:mike@miscon.net] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:25 AM To: Gary's Ice Cream Cc: Boston radio e-mail list Subject: Re: 1400 > If there is something on 1400....then it has to be the Lawrence > transmitter > only.....I was sitting in front of the Lowell site last night and it was > not > turned on. Couldn't tell if it was Lawrence or further away. > > Gary To think that the last of ("olden-days") dual synchronous transmitter facilities is dark, saddens me. But every time someone mentions it, it reminds me that I have to dig up some of the old WLLH Westinghouse transmitter paperwork I gathered up from 4 Broadway, when they left there to go to Church Street. Should I get around to finding it, does anyone have any suggestions for an appropriate home for this material? (and I'm trying to avoid private collections) Mike From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Oct 29 10:58:04 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:58:04 -0400 Subject: 1400 References: <.65.96.208.107.1256822692.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Message-ID: If it's material that can be displayed on the Web, the Boston Radio Archives would be the place. Garrett, Scott, and maybe Donna, would be the people to contact. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Gary's Ice Cream" Cc: "Boston radio e-mail list" Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: Re: 1400 > > >> If there is something on 1400....then it has to be the Lawrence >> transmitter >> only.....I was sitting in front of the Lowell > site last night and it was >> not >> turned on. Couldn't > tell if it was Lawrence or further away. >> >> Gary > > To think that the last of ("olden-days") dual > synchronous transmitter facilities is dark, saddens me. > > But > every time someone mentions it, it reminds me that I have to dig up > some > of the old WLLH Westinghouse transmitter paperwork I gathered up > from 4 > Broadway, when they left there to go to Church Street. Should I get > around > to finding it, does anyone have any suggestions for an appropriate > home > for this material? (and I'm trying to avoid private collections) > > Mike From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Oct 29 11:00:59 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:00:59 -0500 Subject: Spanish on 1400: WLLH or a pirate? Message-ID: <20091029150059.2E665905C49@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> This was at 5 pm, before sunset though of course these days some distant stations can still come in before sunset. I did indeed check 890--it was still silent. Right now I'm in Beverly and I just tuned to 1400 and they are running the same loop I heard before. It's softer and features lots of echo, rolled r's, and synthesizer noises. At one point there is some English; "all right" or "ready..." or something but the rest is in Spanish and something like "more music" or something. From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Oct 29 12:38:02 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:38:02 -0400 Subject: 1400 In-Reply-To: <.65.96.208.107.1256822692.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> References: <.65.96.208.107.1256822692.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Message-ID: <20091029163813.078A51E613E@relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Mike said-- >But every time someone mentions it, it reminds me that I have to dig up some >of the old WLLH Westinghouse transmitter paperwork I gathered up from 4 >Broadway, when they left there to go to Church Street. Should I get around >to finding it, does anyone have any suggestions for an appropriate home >for this material? (and I'm trying to avoid private collections) How old is this material? I have a lot of information about the early days of WLLH and especially its founders, who had ties to the old WLEX in Lexington, to early mechanical TV in Boston, etc. From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Oct 29 14:11:10 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:11:10 -0500 Subject: 1400 Message-ID: <20091029181110.228F2905C49@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> A couple posts on radio-info: L. Glavin feels the 1400 I was picking up was probably the Lowell transmitter, not Lawrence, and someone else said they'd heard that the owners of the 1110 (WPMZ) from Providence were trying to work with WLLH in an effort to reach the Spanish-language community of the Merrimack Valley. From lsochrin@rcn.com Sat Oct 24 23:25:51 2009 From: lsochrin@rcn.com (Larry Sochrin) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:25:51 -0400 Subject: R.I.P. Soupy Sales In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <23440D37-37DC-4B87-8192-D34F0EA473AD@rcn.com> I remember a videotape that circulated within the broadcasting world that had been taken at one of Soupy Sales' TV shows where they surprised him by switching the usual person who had been inside the door that he used to open with someone else. Those at home could only see Soupy Sales' reactions at the surprise, which he had to be careful about because it was a kids show, but those who got the tape could see what was inside the closet. Does anyone else remember that? On Oct 24, 2009, at 12:00 PM, boston-radio-interest- request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org wrote: > From: Richard Chonak > Date: October 24, 2009 12:00:49 AM EDT > To: Boston Radio Interest Board interest@lists.BostonRadio.org> > Subject: R.I.P. Soupy Sales > > > The stars of my toddlerhood keep passing away: as a kid in Brooklyn > in the mid-'60s, no weekday was complete for me without seeing > Soupy Sales get a pie in the face or watching him deal with his dog- > puppet co-stars White Fang (the "mean" dog) and Black Tooth (the > "nice" dog"). R.I.P. From lglavin@mail.com Mon Oct 26 13:43:08 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:43:08 -0400 Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again In-Reply-To: <19173.54798.213291.291093@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <35BB20F8-9495-4F16-9F50-A2D70B2AB807@radio88.net> <19173.54798.213291.291093@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <8CC247AEA52081F-30C-42EE@web-mmc-d19.sysops.aol.com> >-----Original Message----- >From: Garrett Wollman >To: Todd Glickman >Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >Sent: Mon, Oct 26, 2009 1:02 pm >Subject: Re: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again < said: > Why would you want a degreed, certified meteorologist as your weather reporter on TV or radio? For 95% of the situations, it probably doesn't matter -- and doing a rip/read of the NWS generic zones forecasts would be fine. But during severe weather, conflicting computer model runs, emergencies, etc., having a trained expert is important. >That doesn't, IMHO, mean that the person who reads the forecast on the air must necessarily be the person who writes the script. We somehow have gotten fixated on the idea that the performer on screen (or in front of the mike) has to actually know something about the weather. >-GAWollman Hey, wait a minute...a few months ago, several B.R.I.G. members posted their displeasure at having WBZ-AM NEWSCASTERS giving sports scores instead of the regular sports "reporters". Anybody can do that. George Carlin made fun of sportscasters in his "Wonderful Wino" bit: "Now some sports scores... 3 to 2; 5 to nothing, and here's a partial score: 8." From lglavin@mail.com Tue Oct 27 16:08:04 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:08:04 -0400 Subject: WEATHER FORCASTERS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC255853C23BCE-95C-83C@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com> >-----Original Message----- >From: thomas heathwood >To: boston-radio-interest >Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 3:17 am >Subject: WEATHER FORCASTERS >In addition to troubles saying "meteorolist" one of the ACCU-WEATHER guys can't properly pronounce "WBZ" - but swallows part of it, so it comes out "Dub-U B Z" The latter has been ongoing for a long time. <> Bob McMahon seemingly had that problem when he worked at WBZ. He was laid-off from WBZ and resurfaced for a while at WBUR, which he was able to pronounce. I don't think I've heard his voice lately. From tcoco@whav.net Wed Oct 28 12:12:19 2009 From: tcoco@whav.net (Tim Coco) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:12:19 -0400 Subject: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20091027135922.02712da8@plymouthcolony.net> References: <35BB20F8-9495-4F16-9F50-A2D70B2AB807@radio88.net><20091027170959.C6DBD1B585F@relay20.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091027135922.02712da8@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: <91A4463F76504487B2765C299F6AB472@CEO> I don't know if anyone remembers Earl "Bud" Smith. He was one of those first generation weather forecasters who learned on his own and was heard in the Merrimack Valley in the 1940s and 1950s. I have a recording of him apologizing for an incorrect forecast, but adding "the weather does change you know." Tim Coco President & General Manager WHAV -----Original Message----- From: Dale H. Cook [mailto:radiotest@plymouthcolony.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:06 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Lightning Fast Format Changes And Back Again At 01:09 PM 10/27/2009, Donna Halper wrote: >WBZ's first meteorologist was also experienced in the actual science of >weather forecasting I well remember the first (IIRC) man to do TV forecasts in Boston - Don Kent, who started forecasting while in the Coast Guard. My brother and I grew up watching and listening to Don, and partly because of that my brother earned his B.S. and M.S. in meteorology, and has spent his career in meteorological research at Argonne. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZU / WZZI / WLNI / WVMP http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From lglavin@mail.com Thu Oct 29 13:42:28 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:42:28 -0400 Subject: 1400 In-Reply-To: <710D4B4BF5154B17A8D05DCE08D8F372@Main> References: <.65.96.208.107.1256822692.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> <710D4B4BF5154B17A8D05DCE08D8F372@Main> Message-ID: <8CC26D6515D9900-734-2C88@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> >-----Original Message----- >From: Gary's Ice Cream >To: mike@miscon.net >Cc: Boston radio e-mail list >Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:30 am >Subject: RE: 1400 >From: mike@miscon.net [mailto:mike@miscon.net] >Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:25 AM >To: Gary's Ice Cream >Cc: Boston radio e-mail list >Subject: Re: 1400 > If there is something on 1400....then it has to be the Lawrence > transmitter > only.....I was sitting in front of the Lowell site last night and it was > not > turned on. Couldn't tell if it was Lawrence or further away. > > Gary It's definitely NOT the Lawrence transmitter because as I drove through the 5 corners section of Methuen, where wires and transmission lines from 5 different directions meet and throw a blanket of hash over only moderately strong signals on the AM dial, WLLH crashed temporarily. Maybe somebody in Lowell could drive by the Lowell stick again at least during the day. Oh, I checked 890 and it was still silent as/of Thursday at noon. From gary@garysicecream.com Thu Oct 29 14:25:38 2009 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:25:38 -0400 Subject: FW: 1400 Message-ID: <0EBC8414AAB645518A9BEB631B3D064D@Main> Lowell is no longer licensed. COL was changed on the FCC ULS to just reflect Lawrence last year. Didn't the Lawrence authorization actually run out either before or while MEGA owned the station? -----Original Message----- From: Bob Nelson [mailto:raccoonradio@mail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:11 PM To: Donna Halper; mike@miscon.net; Gary's Ice Cream Cc: Boston radio e-mail list Subject: Re: 1400 A couple posts on radio-info: L. Glavin feels the 1400 I was picking up was probably the Lowell transmitter, not Lawrence, and someone else said they'd heard that the owners of the 1110 (WPMZ) from Providence were trying to work with WLLH in an effort to reach the Spanish-language community of the Merrimack Valley. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Oct 29 14:32:14 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:32:14 -0400 Subject: WEATHER FORCASTERS References: <8CC255853C23BCE-95C-83C@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2900ED2E22B44FA5A2C7B336A833C8B6@SatU205S5044> McMahon's W problem resurfaced shortly after he joined WBUR--not quite as severe as at WBZ but still quite noticeable. Adds a little drama to every ID: Is he going to make it through this one? (And if he doesn't make it, what will it sound like?) I'm sure that he more than once must have thought of trying to get a job west of the Mississippi. OTOH, which would be worse--being a meteorologist who couldn't prnounce meteorologist or a radio announcer east of the Mississippi, who couldn't pronounce W? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:08 PM Subject: Re: WEATHER FORCASTERS >-----Original Message----- >From: thomas heathwood >To: boston-radio-interest > >Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 3:17 am >Subject: WEATHER FORCASTERS >In addition to troubles saying "meteorolist" one of the ACCU-WEATHER >guys can't properly pronounce "WBZ" - but swallows part of it, so it comes out "Dub-U B Z" The latter has been ongoing for a long time. <> Bob McMahon seemingly had that problem when he worked at WBZ. He was laid-off from WBZ and resurfaced for a while at WBUR, which he was able to pronounce. I don't think I've heard his voice lately. From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Oct 29 14:50:32 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:50:32 -0400 Subject: FW: 1400 In-Reply-To: <0EBC8414AAB645518A9BEB631B3D064D@Main> References: <0EBC8414AAB645518A9BEB631B3D064D@Main> Message-ID: <19177.58360.224931.48406@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Lowell is no longer licensed. COL was changed on the FCC ULS to just > reflect Lawrence last year. CDBS says Lowell, with a status date of 10/28/2009. ("AM Query", which looks at a different set of records in CDBS, continues to reflect both the Lowell facility, ASID 73034, and the Lawrence facility, ASID 44589.) They filed a "resumption of operations" form yesterday afternoon. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Thu Oct 29 14:35:17 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:35:17 -0400 Subject: FW: 1400 In-Reply-To: <0EBC8414AAB645518A9BEB631B3D064D@Main> References: <0EBC8414AAB645518A9BEB631B3D064D@Main> Message-ID: <4AE9E065.4050203@fybush.com> Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > > > Lowell is no longer licensed. COL was changed on the FCC ULS to just > reflect Lawrence last year. > > Didn't the Lawrence authorization actually run out either before or while > MEGA owned the station? ULS is for non-broadcast facilities. CDBS is for broadcast facilities, and it still shows valid authorizations for both Lowell (BL-20010508ABC, expiring 2014) and Lawrence (BREX-201). Check out fccinfo.com and see for yourself... s From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Thu Oct 29 16:09:19 2009 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:09:19 -0400 Subject: WEATHER FORCASTERS In-Reply-To: <2900ED2E22B44FA5A2C7B336A833C8B6@SatU205S5044> References: <8CC255853C23BCE-95C-83C@web-mmc-m10.sysops.aol.com> <2900ED2E22B44FA5A2C7B336A833C8B6@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4AE9F66F.1070409@myfairpoint.net> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > McMahon's W problem resurfaced shortly after he joined WBUR--not quite > as severe as at WBZ but still quite noticeable. Adds a little drama to > every ID: Is he going to make it through this one? (And if he doesn't > make it, what will it sound like?) I'm sure that he more than once > must have thought of trying to get a job west of the Mississippi. > OTOH, which would be worse--being a meteorologist who couldn't > prnounce meteorologist or a radio announcer east of the Mississippi, > who couldn't pronounce W? > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: ; > > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:08 PM > Subject: Re: WEATHER FORCASTERS > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: thomas heathwood >> To: boston-radio-interest >> >> Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 3:17 am >> Subject: WEATHER FORCASTERS > > > >> In addition to troubles saying "meteorolist" one of the ACCU-WEATHER >> guys can't > properly pronounce "WBZ" - but swallows part of it, so it > comes out "Dub-U B Z" The latter has been ongoing for a long time. > <> > Bob McMahon seemingly had that problem when he worked at WBZ. He was > laid-off from WBZ and resurfaced for a while at WBUR, which he was > able to pronounce. > I don't think I've heard his voice lately. > > > > > > . . . And then there's Gary LaPierre, who has that odd pronunciation of W: "doobled-you", or something akin to it. I always enjoyed that: I thought of that as a signature. (I wonder if everyone from Shelburne Falls pronounces it that way?) I miss Gary. A great newsman. -Doug From necrat.alternate@gmail.com Thu Oct 29 14:50:36 2009 From: necrat.alternate@gmail.com (Mike Fitzpatrick) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:50:36 -0400 Subject: 1400 In-Reply-To: <0EBC8414AAB645518A9BEB631B3D064D@Main> References: <0EBC8414AAB645518A9BEB631B3D064D@Main> Message-ID: <000901ca58c8$b3ef0510$1bcd0f30$@alternate@gmail.com> Huh? I'm sure this message will get sent out 6 hours later, and 4 others will reply with the same info because of that, but just in case not. WLLH is currently licensed to Lowell under license BL-20010508ABC. >From what I see the Lawrence experimental authority for WLLH Lawrence is also still active. (BREX-201) >-----Original Message----- >From: Gary's Ice Cream >Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 14:26 >To: Boston radio e-mail list >Subject: FW: 1400 > >Lowell is no longer licensed. COL was changed on the FCC ULS to just >reflect Lawrence last year. > >Didn't the Lawrence authorization actually run out either before or while >MEGA owned the station? From markwats@comcast.net Thu Oct 29 17:33:04 2009 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:33:04 -0400 Subject: Spanish on 1400: WLLH or a pirate? References: <20091029071407.432E283985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <9E3885903E894A2997B21882D5899A98@Mark> The WLLH Lowell transmitter is on the air with Spanish music as of the time I'm typing this (5:30PM). I live about a half mile from the TX site as the crow flies, so obviously I can't determine if the Lawrence transmitter is on the air. Audio quality is not pristine. I don't know where the programming is originating from. I checked 890, they are still dark. Mark Watson From aerie.ma@comcast.net Thu Oct 29 17:33:33 2009 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:33:33 -0400 Subject: 1400 In-Reply-To: <000901ca58c8$b3ef0510$1bcd0f30$@alternate@gmail.com> References: <0EBC8414AAB645518A9BEB631B3D064D@Main> <000901ca58c8$b3ef0510$1bcd0f30$@alternate@gmail.com> Message-ID: <520FD60852DD4D4587506368DCBE8CEB@aeriema> I heard their ID at 5:00 on my way home. "1400.....WLLH.....Lawrence......Lowell.....La Mega" Yep, Lawrence mentioned first. When I used to listen to them, it was always Lowell first. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Fitzpatrick Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:51 PM To: BRI@bostonradio.org Subject: RE: 1400 Huh? I'm sure this message will get sent out 6 hours later, and 4 others will reply with the same info because of that, but just in case not. WLLH is currently licensed to Lowell under license BL-20010508ABC. >From what I see the Lawrence experimental authority for WLLH Lawrence is also still active. (BREX-201) >-----Original Message----- >From: Gary's Ice Cream >Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 14:26 >To: Boston radio e-mail list >Subject: FW: 1400 > >Lowell is no longer licensed. COL was changed on the FCC ULS to just >reflect Lawrence last year. > >Didn't the Lawrence authorization actually run out either before or while >MEGA owned the station? From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Oct 29 17:57:38 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:57:38 -0400 Subject: 1400 References: <0EBC8414AAB645518A9BEB631B3D064D@Main><000901ca58c8$b3ef0510$1bcd0f30$@alternate@gmail.com> <520FD60852DD4D4587506368DCBE8CEB@aeriema> Message-ID: Sounds as if they resurrected some old tapes from the Mega days, Somebody will tell us how many years old those tapes have to be (at a minimum). The correct legal ID is WLLH Lowell AND Lawrence. Lowell first because it has the regular license; Lawrence second because it is technically an experimental facility. And the AND between Lowell and Lawrence is necessary because, unlike most stations that are licensed to a single community but append the names of additional communities in their listening area to the end of their legal IDs and are NOT supposed to interpose the AND, WLLH is licensed to BOTH Lowell AND Lawrence and requires the AND to signify that it has two licenses. As far as I can tell, the FCC has these bizarrely arcane rules to ensure that only the most complete and unreconstructed radio geeks understand what sound to everyone else like totally meaningless differences among the various ways of IDing radio stations. Some of these rules may not even be written down! ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hall" To: "'Boston Radio Interest'" Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:33 PM Subject: RE: 1400 >I heard their ID at 5:00 on my way home. > "1400.....WLLH.....Lawrence......Lowell.....La Mega" > > Yep, Lawrence mentioned first. When I used to listen to them, it > was always > Lowell first. > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On > Behalf Of > Mike Fitzpatrick > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:51 PM > To: BRI@bostonradio.org > Subject: RE: 1400 > > Huh? > > I'm sure this message will get sent out 6 hours later, and 4 others > will > reply > with the same info because of that, but just in case not. > > WLLH is currently licensed to Lowell under license BL-20010508ABC. >>From what I see the Lawrence experimental authority for WLLH >>Lawrence is > also still active. > (BREX-201) > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Gary's Ice Cream >>Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 14:26 >>To: Boston radio e-mail list >>Subject: FW: 1400 >> >>Lowell is no longer licensed. COL was changed on the FCC ULS to >>just >>reflect Lawrence last year. >> >>Didn't the Lawrence authorization actually run out either before or >>while >>MEGA owned the station? > > From billohno@gmail.com Thu Oct 29 18:18:00 2009 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:18:00 -0400 Subject: 1400 In-Reply-To: References: <0EBC8414AAB645518A9BEB631B3D064D@Main><000901ca58c8$b3ef0510$1bcd0f30$@alternate@gmail.com> <520FD60852DD4D4587506368DCBE8CEB@aeriema> Message-ID: <4AEA1498.1090404@gmail.com> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Sounds as if they resurrected some old tapes from the Mega days, > Somebody will tell us how many years old those tapes have to be (at a > minimum). The correct legal ID is WLLH Lowell AND Lawrence. Lowell > first because it has the regular license; Lawrence second because it > is technically an experimental facility. I recall as a kid in the 60s/70s their swapping Lowell AND Lawrence with Lawrence AND Lowell from time to time. Unreconstructed radio geeks, Dan? What next, you showing up to a Star Trek convention with a bull horn yelling that Spock's ears were really not pointed but for the costume? Say it ain't so! Bill O'Neill From gary@garysicecream.com Thu Oct 29 20:04:52 2009 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:04:52 -0400 Subject: 1400 In-Reply-To: <4AEA1498.1090404@gmail.com> References: <0EBC8414AAB645518A9BEB631B3D064D@Main><000901ca58c8$b3ef0510$1bcd0f30$@alternate@gmail.com> <520FD60852DD4D4587506368DCBE8CEB@aeriema> <4AEA1498.1090404@gmail.com> Message-ID: Actually the jingle package "The Philadelphia Story" that WLLH got in the 1970's (Dan Guy PD at the time I believe) had 2 versions of the ID jingle........"WLLH..Lowell and Lawrence" and "WLLH..Lawrence and Lowell" -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bill O'Neill Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:18 PM To: Dan.Strassberg Cc: 'Boston Radio Interest' Subject: Re: 1400 Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Sounds as if they resurrected some old tapes from the Mega days, > Somebody will tell us how many years old those tapes have to be (at a > minimum). The correct legal ID is WLLH Lowell AND Lawrence. Lowell > first because it has the regular license; Lawrence second because it > is technically an experimental facility. I recall as a kid in the 60s/70s their swapping Lowell AND Lawrence with Lawrence AND Lowell from time to time. Unreconstructed radio geeks, Dan? What next, you showing up to a Star Trek convention with a bull horn yelling that Spock's ears were really not pointed but for the costume? Say it ain't so! Bill O'Neill From hykker@wildblue.net Thu Oct 29 20:15:40 2009 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:15:40 -0400 Subject: 1400 In-Reply-To: References: <0EBC8414AAB645518A9BEB631B3D064D@Main> <000901ca58c8$b3ef0510$1bcd0f30$@alternate@gmail.com> <520FD60852DD4D4587506368DCBE8CEB@aeriema> Message-ID: <4aea3048.1602be0a.4bdc.ffff8a0d@mx.google.com> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > The correct legal ID is WLLH Lowell AND Lawrence. Lowell >first because it has the regular license; Lawrence second because it >is technically an experimental facility. And the AND between Lowell >and Lawrence is necessary because, unlike most stations that are >licensed to a single community but append the names of additional >communities in their listening area to the end of their legal IDs and >are NOT supposed to interpose the AND, WLLH is licensed to BOTH Lowell >AND Lawrence and requires the AND to signify that it has two licenses. I have an old aircheck of WLLH circa 1971/72 where they had a jingle for the ID that went "Lowell & Lawrence, WLLH". Right info, wrong order. From audiskman@yahoo.com Thu Oct 29 20:55:51 2009 From: audiskman@yahoo.com (Matt Sobolewski) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 1400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <668446.77739.qm@web62006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I was there from 1978-80 and remember we did the ID live at the top of the hour and we always said Lawrence first...If I recall it was a marketing gimmick so Lawrence residents wouldn't think of us as "the Lowell station". Keeping the image of being just as much a part of Lawrence as WCCM was such a priority I remember one news director (Al Freeman) hanging a huge poster in the newsroom saying...."Whats happenin' in Lawrence???" as some news people would forget to gather enough Lawrence stories. Two licenses were on the transmitter room wall at 4 Broadway in Lowell. The Lawrence license had the words "standard broadcast station" X'd out (before computers some clerk at the FCC was probably overpaid to hand type the X's) in it's place hand typed in was "synchronous amplifier". --- On Thu, 10/29/09, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > From: Gary's Ice Cream > Subject: RE: 1400 > To: "'Bill O'Neill'" > Cc: "Boston radio e-mail list" > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 8:04 PM > Actually the jingle package "The > Philadelphia Story" that WLLH got in the > 1970's (Dan Guy PD at the time I believe) had 2 versions of > the ID > jingle........"WLLH..Lowell and Lawrence"? and > "WLLH..Lawrence and Lowell" > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of > Bill O'Neill > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:18 PM > To: Dan.Strassberg > Cc: 'Boston Radio Interest' > Subject: Re: 1400 > > Dan.Strassberg wrote: > > Sounds as if they resurrected some old tapes from the > Mega days, > > Somebody will tell us how many years old those tapes > have to be (at a > > minimum). The correct legal ID is WLLH Lowell AND > Lawrence. Lowell > > first because it has the regular license; Lawrence > second because it > > is technically an experimental facility. > I recall as a kid in the 60s/70s their swapping Lowell AND > Lawrence with > Lawrence AND Lowell from time to time.? > Unreconstructed radio geeks, Dan? > What next, you showing up to a Star Trek convention with a > bull horn yelling > that Spock's ears were really not pointed but for the > costume?? Say it ain't > so! > > Bill O'Neill > > From rickkelly@gmail.com Thu Oct 29 22:49:33 2009 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:49:33 -0400 Subject: R.I.P. Soupy Sales In-Reply-To: <23440D37-37DC-4B87-8192-D34F0EA473AD@rcn.com> References: <23440D37-37DC-4B87-8192-D34F0EA473AD@rcn.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd10910291949q794373adtbcde0d4586711ee@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Larry Sochrin wrote: > I remember a videotape that circulated within the broadcasting world that > had been taken at ?one of Soupy Sales' TV shows where they surprised him by > switching the usual person who had been inside the door that he used to open > with someone else. ?Those at home could only see Soupy Sales' reactions at > the surprise, which he had to be careful about because it was a kids show, > but those who got the tape could see what was inside the closet. ?Does > anyone else remember that? Legend has it there was a naked woman dancing out of view of the camera, if I recall correctly. -Rick Kelly From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Oct 29 22:55:38 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:55:38 -0400 Subject: 1400 References: <0EBC8414AAB645518A9BEB631B3D064D@Main><000901ca58c8$b3ef0510$1bcd0f30$@alternate@gmail.com><520FD60852DD4D4587506368DCBE8CEB@aeriema> <4aea3048.1602be0a.4bdc.ffff8a0d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: But Lowell and Lawrence is the correct order! So if you meant that Lowell and Lawrence was the wrong order, that's wrong; it's the right order. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:15 PM Subject: Re: 1400 > Dan.Strassberg wrote: >> The correct legal ID is WLLH Lowell AND Lawrence. Lowell >>first because it has the regular license; Lawrence second because it >>is technically an experimental facility. And the AND between Lowell >>and Lawrence is necessary because, unlike most stations that are >>licensed to a single community but append the names of additional >>communities in their listening area to the end of their legal IDs >>and >>are NOT supposed to interpose the AND, WLLH is licensed to BOTH >>Lowell >>AND Lawrence and requires the AND to signify that it has two >>licenses. > > I have an old aircheck of WLLH circa 1971/72 where they had a jingle > for the ID that went "Lowell & Lawrence, WLLH". Right info, wrong > order. > From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Oct 30 03:12:05 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:12:05 -0500 Subject: 1400 Message-ID: <20091030071205.405BDCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> I had them on about 5 pm on Rt 1 in Topsfield (nr Rt 97); faint but listenable. They are running music now and their ID sounded like this (I could be mistaken): "WLLH Lawrence/Lowell" and they added "la MEGA" as a slogan. Can't remember if there was an "and" in between (unless they said "y", Spanish for "and")... By 2:30 am in North Reading, it was several mixed stations on 1400 but WLLH was probably one of them. From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Oct 30 03:14:14 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:14:14 -0500 Subject: 1400 Message-ID: <20091030071414.EBD99CD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> >>I heard their ID at 5:00 on my way home. "1400.....WLLH.....Lawrence......Lowell.....La Mega" So did I and I also thought it was supposed to be Lowell AND Lawrence in that order. But not when I tuned in. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri Oct 30 03:19:18 2009 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 3:19:18 -0400 Subject: R.I.P. Soupy Sales In-Reply-To: <521b7fd10910291949q794373adtbcde0d4586711ee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091030071918.0HLAK.545710.root@hrndva-web15-z01> Rick Kelly wrote: > Legend has it there was a naked woman dancing out of view of the > camera, if I recall correctly. Legendary, but not mythical - this link proves the legend true. *** note: it's grainy & black&white but shows the dancing, topless woman behind the door *** ** not suitable for work or mixed company or those easily offended ** http://www.archive.org/details/SoupySalesShow-Outtake - - Chuck Igo From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Oct 31 01:57:41 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:57:41 -0500 Subject: WBZ-FM picks up FOX SPORTS RADIO Message-ID: <4fc429770910302257h176c945dp6bea7a4524cf1c58@mail.gmail.com> As expected WBZ-FM has picked up FOX SPORTS RADIO for overnights and weekends starting Monday morning as WEEI will start taking ESPN overnight. JT the Brick will air starting at 11 PM What this means for Sporting News Radio in Boston is unclear From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Oct 31 03:11:34 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:11:34 -0500 Subject: WBZ-FM picks up FOX SPORTS RADIO Message-ID: <20091031071134.6507C905C49@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> Thanks for info; though I thought JT's show was now 1-4 AM Eastern....? From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Oct 31 03:36:49 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:36:49 -0500 Subject: WBZ-FM picks up FOX SPORTS RADIO In-Reply-To: <20091031071134.6507C905C49@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20091031071134.6507C905C49@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770910310036k73bb5846na4d2de2db5b7c24@mail.gmail.com> Correction Tony Bruno from 11-1 and the JT from 1 until 6 However part of the reason JT was moved by FOX to 1 was because EEI on many nights would stay local until 1 AM with Sox Talk On 10/31/09, Bob Nelson wrote: > Thanks for info; though I thought JT's show was now 1-4 AM Eastern....? > > > From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Oct 31 08:56:37 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:56:37 -0500 Subject: WBZ-FM picks up FOX SPORTS RADIO Message-ID: <20091031125637.B55FACD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> >>However part of the reason JT was moved by FOX to 1 was because EEI on many nights would stay local until 1 AM with Sox Talk Interesting--he did mention the importance of WEEI to his show. Meanwhile 1510 still runs Sporting News Radio for a few hours each day but it's been said that they may expand prog talk into the overnights and who knows the owners of 890 could conceivably put it back on with Sporting News--at least it would be a source of programming for them, 24-7, for now... From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Sat Oct 31 13:55:09 2009 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:55:09 -0500 Subject: WBZ-FM picks up FOX SPORTS RADIO References: <4fc429770910302257h176c945dp6bea7a4524cf1c58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001e01ca5a53$4abd8440$0e824c0c@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Vahey To: (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:57 AM Subject: WBZ-FM picks up FOX SPORTS RADIO > As expected WBZ-FM has picked up FOX SPORTS RADIO for overnights and > weekends starting Monday morning as WEEI will start taking ESPN > overnight. > > JT the Brick will air starting at 11 PM > > What this means for Sporting News Radio in Boston is unclear > Speculation on the demise of Sporting News Radio has been rampant for years now. How does that network keep going? Does it have a sugar daddy who's bankrolling it no matter how much money it loses? Howard From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Oct 31 20:27:58 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:27:58 -0500 Subject: WWZN to expand prog. talk? Message-ID: <20091101002758.A3EAC83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> A post on the save prog radio boston yahoo group says Jeff Santos is sending more progressive talk to WWZN for weeknights and overnights, to start soon; among the hosts said to be added are Leslie Marshall, Norman Goldman, and Mike Malloy. Malloy, no stranger to controversy, recently alleged that a former Vice President eats Muslim or Jewish babies. A Michael Savage for the left (or is that Randi Rhodes' job?) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Save_progressive_radio_boston/message/6733 http://newsbusters.org/people/mike-malloy