From fox893@yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 12:17:23 2009 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: ....and on with the countdown. Message-ID: <293094.22314.qm@web39105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Magic 104 (WVMJ-FM) has been running the top 20 for approx 5 years now. Our (and everyone else's) last show will be this weekend. --- On Tue, 6/30/09, Bob DeMattia wrote: > From: Bob DeMattia > Subject: Re: ....and on with the countdown. > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 12:54 PM > See here... > http://radiotime.com/options/p_39718/American_Top_20.aspx > > Not > sure if this > is a complete list.? Some of the stations also have > online feeds. > > -Bob > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Don A > wrote: > > > Does anyone know any station that is still running > Casey Kasem's "American > > Top 10" and/or "American Top 20"?? (Ryan Seacrest > had already taken over > > the > > top 40 show.) > > > > The final show is supposed to be this weekend...and > would like to hear it > > for old time sake.? He started the show in > 1970.....and we used to strain > > to pick > > it up Sunday Mornings on WMEX in the 70's. > > > > > > > > > > > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Jul 1 12:23:44 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:23:44 -0500 Subject: Casey Kasem Message-ID: <8bce0fe80907010923i49175736hbd031404a09bf1b1@mail.gmail.com> Will any stations continue Casey's show by just running old editions? When I was working at a certain AM Daytimer that ran a CHR/Top 40 "type" format, we ran Ellen K's Top 20 Rythm Countdown on Friday afternoons at 3pm and when that got cancelled, we ran old shows for several months before I took the time slot and did a local show called "The Oldies Delight". I did a 50s, 60s and 70s oldies show even though we were CHR/Top 40-ish because we were preparing to flip formats and wanted to ease into the new format by introducing the music little by little to our listeners -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com www.facebook.com/onairdj walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Jul 1 12:23:44 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:23:44 -0500 Subject: Casey Kasem Message-ID: <8bce0fe80907010923i49175736hbd031404a09bf1b1@mail.gmail.com> Will any stations continue Casey's show by just running old editions? When I was working at a certain AM Daytimer that ran a CHR/Top 40 "type" format, we ran Ellen K's Top 20 Rythm Countdown on Friday afternoons at 3pm and when that got cancelled, we ran old shows for several months before I took the time slot and did a local show called "The Oldies Delight". I did a 50s, 60s and 70s oldies show even though we were CHR/Top 40-ish because we were preparing to flip formats and wanted to ease into the new format by introducing the music little by little to our listeners -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com www.facebook.com/onairdj walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From billohno@gmail.com Wed Jul 1 17:54:22 2009 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:54:22 -0400 Subject: HD table radio Message-ID: <4A4BDB0E.9090802@gmail.com> Just looking around for a decent, low priced HD radio for the folks' kitchen counter. How about the Radiosophy HD100 that VPR has on their recommended list at 99? Bill O'Neill From scott@fybush.com Wed Jul 1 18:01:28 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:01:28 -0400 Subject: HD table radio In-Reply-To: <4A4BDB0E.9090802@gmail.com> References: <4A4BDB0E.9090802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A4BDCB8.5070000@fybush.com> Bill O'Neill wrote: > Just looking around for a decent, low priced HD radio for the folks' > kitchen counter. How about the Radiosophy HD100 that VPR has on their > recommended list at 99? > Bill O'Neill Adequate - but I'd spring for the much, much better Sony XDR-S3HD for not much more $$. s From aerie.ma@comcast.net Wed Jul 1 18:47:34 2009 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:47:34 -0400 Subject: HD table radio In-Reply-To: <4A4BDCB8.5070000@fybush.com> References: <4A4BDB0E.9090802@gmail.com> <4A4BDCB8.5070000@fybush.com> Message-ID: <30D22DE7B8B64584BA56CB7FF68DAC57@aeriema> I have two of the Sony radios and they are quite nice. It's very hard to find a table radio these days that isn't plastic with 1 inch speakers. The Sony comes in an attractive wooden cabinet and sounds quite nice. The only rather odd (to me) limitation is it contains no ferrite rod antenna for AM. They provide an external AM wire loop antenna that you can clip onto the radio, but why they didn't put the antenna inside the radio is beyond me. They also provide a folded dipole FM antenna which I mounted at ceiling level pinned to the wall facing Boston. I get all the FM HD signals reliably from Boston at 30 miles out, plus those from Worcester and Manchester NH. On AM, I only get WBZ in HD semi-reliably. WNNW is closer and I get HD in the daytime from them, but not at night (even though I could see the tower if I had a window in that direction). Stations like WMKI and WXKS don't register in HD either day or night. Speaking tangentially of WMKI: is it me or do they have the worst sounding audio? I guess it doesn't matter that much given the audience, but it sounds like the whole thing is coming from a phone booth. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Scott Fybush Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:01 PM To: Bill O'Neill Cc: Boston Radio Interest Subject: Re: HD table radio Bill O'Neill wrote: > Just looking around for a decent, low priced HD radio for the folks' > kitchen counter. How about the Radiosophy HD100 that VPR has on their > recommended list at 99? > Bill O'Neill Adequate - but I'd spring for the much, much better Sony XDR-S3HD for not much more $$. s -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Scott Fybush Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:01 PM To: Bill O'Neill Cc: Boston Radio Interest Subject: Re: HD table radio Bill O'Neill wrote: > Just looking around for a decent, low priced HD radio for the folks' > kitchen counter. How about the Radiosophy HD100 that VPR has on their > recommended list at 99? > Bill O'Neill Adequate - but I'd spring for the much, much better Sony XDR-S3HD for not much more $$. s From rac@gabrielmass.com Wed Jul 1 19:25:39 2009 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:25:39 -0400 Subject: HD table radio In-Reply-To: <4A4BDCB8.5070000@fybush.com> References: <4A4BDB0E.9090802@gmail.com> <4A4BDCB8.5070000@fybush.com> Message-ID: <4A4BF073.7010005@server3.gabrielmass.com> Scott Fybush wrote: > Bill O'Neill wrote: >> Just looking around for a decent, low priced HD radio for the folks' >> kitchen counter. How about the Radiosophy HD100 that VPR has on their >> recommended list at 99? >> Bill O'Neill > > Adequate - but I'd spring for the much, much better Sony XDR-S3HD for > not much more $$. > > s Sony has stopped selling them: http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665101573 --RC From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed Jul 1 19:42:24 2009 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:42:24 -0400 Subject: Pirate on 87.9 Message-ID: <001a01c9faa5$9627fa40$c277eec0$@com> While driving last night on Route 1 at the intersection with Route 62 I picked up a strong signal playing oldies (70's pop vintage)in stereo. At the top of the hour they played a promo for a Friday night Wolfman Jack show and Id'd the station only as 87.9 - no calls. I was able to hear the station through Peabody Square all the way back to my apartment across from Salem Hospital. I'm guessing, from the frequency and lack of ID's, sweepers, etc, that they're a pirate but they sounded very good. The audio path was clean and the limited production didn't sound like an IPOD on shuffle. The strength of the signal would be roughly what I'd expect WMWM to do if its TX was located in Danvers so I'm guessing about 100 -150 watts. Any ideas? Pro Cinema - Pro Audio - Pro & Consumer AV Equipment & Supplies Brian Vita President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 brian_vita@cssinc.com AIM: btvita tel: fax: 978-538-7575 978-538-7550 Want to always have my latest info? Want a signature like this? From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed Jul 1 19:57:41 2009 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:57:41 -0400 Subject: Unintended Amusing side effects of RDS and its digital equivalent Message-ID: <000001c9faa7$bb149320$313db960$@com> This post is not for the easily offended. For a while I've been savagely amused by the RDS (and digital radio equivalents) that sometimes show up on my various radio displays. The most consistently amusing display has been on the factory radios of my Nissan vehicles. For reasons that no one can explain to me, Nissan has mandated that the displays NOT scroll. As a result the truncated displays sometimes display interesting titles. For example, while listening to XM Watercolors (smooth jazz -there's a shock) last week, the display said that I was listening to "Hudson River Nig". I thought it was a bit racy until I realized that the song was actually "Hudson River Nights". The one that really stopped me was listening to the 60's on 6. The display said that the Delfonics were singing "Didn't I Blow You". It took me a few minutes to remember that the correct song title was "Didn't I Blow Your Mind This Time". I wonder if the folks programming the titles ever stop to think about the displays. Pro Cinema - Pro Audio - Pro & Consumer AV Equipment & Supplies Brian Vita President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 brian_vita@cssinc.com AIM: btvita tel: fax: 978-538-7575 978-538-7550 From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Jul 1 20:11:31 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:11:31 -0500 Subject: Pirate on 87.9 In-Reply-To: <001a01c9faa5$9627fa40$c277eec0$@com> References: <001a01c9faa5$9627fa40$c277eec0$@com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80907011711rf69b54g20e08c89b15e71b2@mail.gmail.com> Ok, now forgive an un-educated person ... but is Route 1/62 anywhere near Rowley? I do believe there is an 87.9 pirate station there that plays the kinda of music you describe. NECRAT.com seems to be down, I think they had a picture on there. -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Brian Vita wrote: > While driving last night on Route 1 at the intersection with Route 62 I > picked up a strong signal playing oldies (70's pop vintage)in stereo. At > the top of the hour they played a promo for a Friday night Wolfman Jack > show > and Id'd the station only as 87.9 - no calls. I was able to hear the > station through Peabody Square all the way back to my apartment across from > Salem Hospital. > > I'm guessing, from the frequency and lack of ID's, sweepers, etc, that > they're a pirate but they sounded very good. The audio path was clean and > the limited production didn't sound like an IPOD on shuffle. The strength > of the signal would be roughly what I'd expect WMWM to do if its TX was > located in Danvers so I'm guessing about 100 -150 watts. > > Any ideas? > > > > Brian Vita > > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Jul 1 20:22:16 2009 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:22:16 -0400 Subject: Pirate on 87.9 In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80907011711rf69b54g20e08c89b15e71b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <001a01c9faa5$9627fa40$c277eec0$@com> <8bce0fe80907011711rf69b54g20e08c89b15e71b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601c9faab$28b54610$7a1fd230$@net> > Ok, now forgive an un-educated person ... but is Route 1/62 anywhere > near > Rowley? > > I do believe there is an 87.9 pirate station there that plays the kinda > of > music you describe. > > NECRAT.com seems to be down, I think they had a picture on there. It's located in Boxford, not far from Rowley, near the route 97 exit off 95. I believe they sometimes ID as "87.9 The Wave." There's even at least one political type sign on the side of route 97 up in that area promoting the station as "Weekends are Beautiful, 87.9 FM." Their format varies between Oldies, Soft AC, and even at times beautiful music. They get out very well, probably as much as 15 miles in all directions. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Wed Jul 1 20:32:58 2009 From: dmoisan@davidmoisan.org (David Moisan) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:32:58 -0400 Subject: Unintended Amusing side effects of RDS and its digital equivalent In-Reply-To: <000001c9faa7$bb149320$313db960$@com> References: <000001c9faa7$bb149320$313db960$@com> Message-ID: Most likely, it goes right from the automation to whatever API the RDS system is using, and no one but you even noticed. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Vita Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:58 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Unintended Amusing side effects of RDS and its digital equivalent This post is not for the easily offended. For a while I've been savagely amused by the RDS (and digital radio equivalents) that sometimes show up on my various radio displays. The most consistently amusing display has been on the factory radios of my Nissan vehicles. For reasons that no one can explain to me, Nissan has mandated From mamros@MIT.EDU Wed Jul 1 20:53:39 2009 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:53:39 -0400 Subject: HD table radio In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:25:39 EDT." <4A4BF073.7010005@server3.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <200907020053.n620rdp4009003@grumpy-fuzzball.mit.edu> Scott Fybush wrote, in response to Bill's original query: >> Adequate - but I'd spring for the much, much better Sony XDR-S3HD for >> not much more $$. and Richard replied: >Sony has stopped selling them: True, but they do now have the XDR-S10HDiP, which seems to include the same functionalitry plus a built-in iPod dock. I have one (in addition to the aforementioned XDR-S3HD, which is indeed a nice radio), but for reasons too convoluted to explain here, we haven't yet taken the newer model out of the box. When we do, I'll try to remember to report back on how well it stacks up to the older one. -shawn From sid@wrko.com Wed Jul 1 21:00:02 2009 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:00:02 -0600 Subject: Unintended Amusing side effects of RDS and its digital equivalent In-Reply-To: <000001c9faa7$bb149320$313db960$@com> References: <000001c9faa7$bb149320$313db960$@com> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE846829E3019@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>The one that really stopped me was listening to the 60's on 6. The display said that the Delfonics were singing "Didn't I Blow You". It took me a few minutes to remember that the correct song title was "Didn't I Blow Your Mind This Time". I wonder if the folks programming the titles ever stop to think about the displays.<< There are, on the XM fan message boards, many postings about what happens when long titles meet up with character-challenged radios (many of the older radios will only display 16 characters at a time), and some of the results are downright hilarious. James Brown's classic "Papa's Got A Brand New Bag" comes out as "Papa's Got A Bra," and Bobby Darin's "If I Were A Carpenter" becomes "If I Were A Carp." The air personalities on SiriusXM-6 even work those funny titles into their patter. So, it's not surprising that some of this occurs on RDS titles too. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 21:58:58 2009 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Casey Kasem In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80907010923i49175736hbd031404a09bf1b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <889850.98337.qm@web55801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Wouldn't that be a violation of their affiliation agreement? I mean, I'm not really sure if the network would make a big stink out of something like that, but I would think they legally could if they wanted to. Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > Will any stations continue Casey's > show by just running old editions? > > When I was working at a certain AM Daytimer that ran a > CHR/Top 40 "type" > format, we ran Ellen K's Top 20 Rythm Countdown on Friday > afternoons at 3pm > and when that got cancelled, we ran old shows for several > months before I > took the time slot and did a local show called "The Oldies > Delight". > > I did a 50s, 60s and 70s oldies show even though we were > CHR/Top 40-ish > because we were preparing to flip formats and wanted to > ease into the new > format by introducing the music little by little to our > listeners > > -- > Sincerely, > Paul B. Walker, Jr. > www.onairdj.com > www.facebook.com/onairdj > walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com > From john@minutemancomm.com Wed Jul 1 22:51:51 2009 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: HD table radio In-Reply-To: <4A4BF073.7010005@server3.gabrielmass.com> References: <4A4BDB0E.9090802@gmail.com> <4A4BDCB8.5070000@fybush.com> <4A4BF073.7010005@server3.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <17F054E883BF419E97256A0C08F247D4@johnster1> http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchCatalog?storeId=101 51&langId=-1&catalogId=10551&in_dim_search=HD+Radio%26trade%3B&keyword=HD+Ra dio%99&gobutton.x=14&gobutton.y=9 -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Richard Chonak Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:26 PM To: Boston Radio Interest Subject: Re: HD table radio Scott Fybush wrote: > Bill O'Neill wrote: >> Just looking around for a decent, low priced HD radio for the folks' >> kitchen counter. How about the Radiosophy HD100 that VPR has on their >> recommended list at 99? >> Bill O'Neill > > Adequate - but I'd spring for the much, much better Sony XDR-S3HD for > not much more $$. > > s Sony has stopped selling them: http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId= 10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665101573 --RC From boffoyux@gmail.com Thu Jul 2 00:26:12 2009 From: boffoyux@gmail.com (Tom Giarrosso) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:26:12 -0400 Subject: Pirate on 87.9 Message-ID: <9abe1acb0907012126i1009b577n780c7efcac2ad51d@mail.gmail.com> I've been hearing them on 87.9 for the last few weeks as well. Comes in with a decent signal in Methuen/Salem NH area, but I didn't hear any ID's - so I thought it was bleed over from other cars or someone local in the area doing a home broadcast. I actually heard a few songs that were moldy oldies I waited on before shutting off the engine I hadn't heard in a while. Nice mix of stuff. Tom Giarrosso www.boffoyuxdudes.com boffoyux@gmail.com _______ Ok, now forgive an un-educated person ... but is Route 1/62 anywhere near Rowley? I do believe there is an 87.9 pirate station there that plays the kinda of music you describe. NECRAT.com seems to be down, I think they had a picture on there. -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From nostaticatall@charter.net Thu Jul 2 01:47:52 2009 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 01:47:52 -0400 Subject: Casey Kasem In-Reply-To: <889850.98337.qm@web55801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <889850.98337.qm@web55801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <68550329-4F28-43E7-A977-9FED423CD118@charter.net> I doubt many stations will run old editions of his current countdowns, at least not for an extended period of time. While AT20 and AT10 are going away, Premiere is still distributing his 70's and 80's shows. I suppose some stations may flip to one of the retro countdowns if they want to keep Casey on the air... -Dave Tomm On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:58 PM, Matthew Osborne wrote: > > Wouldn't that be a violation of their affiliation agreement? I > mean, I'm not really sure if the network would make a big stink out > of something like that, but I would think they legally could if they > wanted to. > > Matt Osborne > Schenectady, NY > > --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Paul B. Walker, Jr. > wrote: > >> Will any stations continue Casey's >> show by just running old editions? >> >> When I was working at a certain AM Daytimer that ran a >> CHR/Top 40 "type" >> format, we ran Ellen K's Top 20 Rythm Countdown on Friday >> afternoons at 3pm >> and when that got cancelled, we ran old shows for several >> months before I >> took the time slot and did a local show called "The Oldies >> Delight". >> >> I did a 50s, 60s and 70s oldies show even though we were >> CHR/Top 40-ish >> because we were preparing to flip formats and wanted to >> ease into the new >> format by introducing the music little by little to our >> listeners >> >> -- >> Sincerely, >> Paul B. Walker, Jr. >> www.onairdj.com >> www.facebook.com/onairdj >> walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com >> > > > > From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu Jul 2 12:33:27 2009 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:33:27 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Casey Kasem Message-ID: <23608139.1246552407700.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> WODS runs the remastered syndicated versions of Casey's 1970s shows "American Top 40 - The '70s" on Sunday nights (Monday mornings) 12 mid-3 AM, with liners and some advertising spots recently voiced by Casey. It's amazing how many songs that were Top 40 then, even some Top 10 hits, are no longer heard anywhere else on commercial radio anymore. EP From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Jul 2 13:01:57 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:01:57 -0400 Subject: Casey Kasem In-Reply-To: <23608139.1246552407700.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <23608139.1246552407700.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <19020.59397.688822.360442@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > It's amazing how many songs that were Top 40 then, even some > Top 10 hits, are no longer heard anywhere else on commercial > radio anymore. I recently put together, in advance of my parents' 40th anniversary, a collection of all the top-10 hits of 1969. I recognized between a third and a half of all the songs, but there were a couple of songs that were so obscure they weren't available for (legitimate) download anywhere. (That's as opposed to the three Beatles hits of that year, which aren't available for download because Apple Corps was looking to squeeze more money out of the download store operators.) -GAWollman From theseacoast@maine.rr.com Thu Jul 2 16:50:44 2009 From: theseacoast@maine.rr.com (The Seacoast) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:50:44 -0400 Subject: Pirate on 87.9 In-Reply-To: <9abe1acb0907012126i1009b577n780c7efcac2ad51d@mail.gmail.com> References: <9abe1acb0907012126i1009b577n780c7efcac2ad51d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47E7AE68AD814E2A8E0BCA5412D4BDBB@vpr1> Comes in even better along the Seacoast on Rt. 95! -----Original Message----- From: Tom Giarrosso [mailto:boffoyux@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:26 AM To: brian_vita@cssinc.com Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Pirate on 87.9 I've been hearing them on 87.9 for the last few weeks as well. Comes in with a decent signal in Methuen/Salem NH area, but I didn't hear any ID's - so I thought it was bleed over from other cars or someone local in the area doing a home broadcast. I actually heard a few songs that were moldy oldies I waited on before shutting off the engine I hadn't heard in a while. Nice mix of stuff. Tom Giarrosso www.boffoyuxdudes.com boffoyux@gmail.com _______ Ok, now forgive an un-educated person ... but is Route 1/62 anywhere near Rowley? I do believe there is an 87.9 pirate station there that plays the kinda of music you describe. NECRAT.com seems to be down, I think they had a picture on there. -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From gallen2@nescaum.org Fri Jul 3 13:49:30 2009 From: gallen2@nescaum.org (George Allen) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:49:30 -0400 Subject: Pirate on 87.9 Message-ID: On the Swampscott coast, it's there but marginal - only mono and a bit fuzzy. That's with a simple indoor twinlead dipole on the ground floor. And yes, an interesting music mix! George __________________________________________________ From: Tom Giarrosso [mailto:boffoyux@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:26 AM I've been hearing them on 87.9 for the last few weeks as well. Comes in with a decent signal in Methuen/Salem NH area, but I didn't hear any ID's - so I thought it was bleed over from other cars or someone local in the area doing a home broadcast. I actually heard a few songs that were moldy oldies I waited on before shutting off the engine I hadn't heard in a while. Nice mix of stuff. Tom Giarrosso From boffoyux@gmail.com Thu Jul 2 01:04:21 2009 From: boffoyux@gmail.com (Tom Giarrosso) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 01:04:21 -0400 Subject: WBCN Lunchtime songs - 1980's Message-ID: <9abe1acb0907012204u7b576eacr562ca243775c599d@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone remember the WBCN Lunchtime songs Captain Ken Shelton used to play at noon every weekday that voice guys Billy West and Tom Sandman used to create? I came across an aircheck I made 20+ years ago of one of their 'best of' days, where they played them for the whole lunchtime. Tom Giarrosso www.boffoyuxdudes.com boffoyux@gmail.com From phylo1@yahoo.com Fri Jul 3 23:52:53 2009 From: phylo1@yahoo.com (phylo1@yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Casey Kasem's old Top 40 shows... Message-ID: <761799.81084.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Wow - Thanks for posting this information, Eli. (I think I recall that you do Lost and Found on MBR?)? I not only listened to those shows, I kept a handwritten list of the songs, which I've got stashed someplace. (I have a lot of my handwritten "playlists" from back then from 'RKO and 'MEX. The Top 40 was such a mix of styles back then.? I don't listen to "oldies" stations very much, probably because I (1) refuse to acknowledge that songs from the 70's are "oldies", and (2) I don't want to OD on Bad Bad Leroy Brown or Seasons in the Sun. It's more fun to hear those songs only occasionally. Speaking of the 70's, I just found the "album" version of my favorite 70's song, American City Suite, by Cashman and West, on Amazon for $0.99. iTunes only has the "single" version (of course it still clocks in at 7 minutes). Phyllis DJ WCUW 91.3 Worcester "Shirim" - Jewish music from 8-10 PM Sunday nights. and streaming on www.wcuw.org. Eli Polonsky wrote: > WODS runs the remastered syndicated versions of Casey's 1970s > shows "American Top 40 - The '70s" on Sunday nights (Monday > mornings) 12 mid-3 AM, with liners and some advertising spots > recently voiced by Casey. > > It's amazing how many songs that were Top 40 then, even some > Top 10 hits, are no longer heard anywhere else on commercial > radio anymore. > > EP From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Sat Jul 4 14:54:51 2009 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:54:51 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Some DTV Observations Message-ID: <4A4FA57B.7000404@Gmail.com> A few musings regarding DTV and THE TRANSITION. --- Reception: I got an Insignia converter box for my bedroom TV back in October, and all I use for an antenna is an old Rat Shack FM dipole: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062691 Up here in Beverly, I decode all of the full power Boston stations, including WMFP:62-18, with WSBK:38-39 and WLVI:56-41 occasionally to frequently being at border decode (though a tweek of the "dip"(-ole) usually clears it up), while WHDN-LD-38 (ex-26) shows up once in a while on the signal meter (though has never decoded); both WYDN:48-47 and WUTF:66-27 (ex-23) are usually sub-decode present, as is RI's WNAC:64-12 and WPRI:12-13, all four breaking through decode with some tropospheric enhancement a few times, as has WDPX:58-40 and even WLWC:28-22 once or twice (while WUNI:27-29, WLNE:6-47 and WJAR:10-51 rarely even show on the signal meter, and WSBE:36-21 has yet to). From the north, both WMUR:9(-49) and WENH:-11 regularly register(ed) on the signal meter (though neither yet decoding and reverted WMUR:-9 seemed less frequent and weaker...though, after the first few days they seem as strong as they were on ch.49 [maybe even slightly stronger]??increased power?), while WPXG:21-33 and WNEU:-34 (ex-60) have only registered on the meter once or twice, well below decode; WCSH:6-44 is the only DT signal from ME that has even cracked the signal meter a few times. As for WHDH:-7/-42, DT-42 has been pretty steady while DT-7??though decodeable??is definitively weaker: But since I am using an FM dipole (designed for 88-108 MHz) and RF-7 is relatively just a little above FM (174-180 MHz) while RF-42 is way up in UHF (638-644 MHz), shouldn't RF-7 come in better than RF-42, presuming similar ERP contours? Would there be much improvement with one of those $19.99-39.99 indoor, flat, square/rectangle antennas (either amplified or non-amplified) you hang on the wall...or does my $6.99 dipole provide pretty much the same result as the (at least unamplified) hanging flat antenna? --- Channel labeling: At least with the Insignia, a way to associate an undecoded/unmapped virtual channel with its true RF channel is to manually add the RF channel, with the virtual channel as the subchannel??e.g., WJAR:10-51 would be added as "51-10", WUTF:66-27 as "27-66" and WCSH:6-44 as "44-6" (even though subchannels 1-4 are mapped to WGBX:44-43's, any subchannel of a mapped virtual channel outside of the decoded/mapped range of the virtual channel gets assigned to the subchannel of the actual RF channel). The only downside to this trick??which has only been tried with the Insignia??is that when it does decode, the channel position assumes the newly found virtual channel, thus "44-6" would metamorphosize to "6-1" and the tuner position would shift to ch.6 with 7/5 being the up/down adjacent channels, not 45/43, meaning you lose your browsing/"stepping" position (though pressing the "PREVious CH" button should revert you to the previous stop, as usual). --- Ch.55 - "FLO TV": The first time I did an analog scan The Day After, I definitively noted "digital snow" on ch.55. I then checked on the Insignia, which showed absolutely NO signal. Given that and the fact that there was nothing listed for ch.55, locally, in the FCC data base, I figured that it may have been some sort of imaging/intermod/harmonic of a DTV signal. Then, a couple of days later, someone on WTFDA's TV-FM list noted that Qualcomm (a wireless company) has been buying up spectrum licenses for ch.55, to create a mobile TV service, "MediaFLO" or "FLO TV" (so much for just "texting while driving"! P=/ ): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaFLO?printable=yes which is being locally franchised to Verizon Wireless as "V-Cast". --- TV set cable tuner: As the analog TV in the den kicked the bucket a few weeks ago, we got a new, digital LCD set (Vizio VO32OE HDTV) and plugged it in the day before THE TRANSITION. The notable thing here is the channel assignment by ComCast. For the lower channels (2-22), there is not only a secondary SD channel presence (definitely digital, as it is subject to pixelation if the connection is loosened), but in most cases also a terciary one, especially for the HD feeds, where the primary channel is analog NTSC, while the secondary and terciary are "256 QAM": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/256-QAM?printable=yes The first twelve stations are listed below, giving both the channel (with -sub, if known) and lower whole frequency, as well as the apparent decode/chain (i.e., delay) order ("(#)"): Primary NTSC Secondary QAM Terciary QAM Station Ch/MHz Ch/MHz [HD Ch] Ch/MHz ======= ============ ============= =================== WGBH:2 2/55 (2) 82-1/571 (3) [2-2] 84-1/583 (1) HSN 3/61 (1) 79-9/553 (2) ******* WBZ:4 4/67 (1) 82-2/571 (3) [4-1] 87-2/601 (2) WCVB:5 5/77 (1) 82-3/571 (3) [5-1] 86-1/595 (2) NECN 6/83 (2) 77-6/541 (1) ******* WHDH:7 7/175 (1) 82-4/571 (2) [7-1] 86-2/595 (1) ******* ******* [7-2] 86-3/595 WWDP:46 8/181 (1) 74-74/523 (2) 83-12/577 (3) WMUR:9 9/187 (1) 74-1/523 (2) [9-1] 75-89/529 (2) Bev-TV 10/193 (1) 74-2/523 (2) ******* WENH:11 11/199 (1) 74-65/523 (2) 82-6/571 (3) WLVI:56 12/205 (2) 82-12/571 (3) [56-1] 84-2/583 (1) WFXT:25 13/211 (1) 82-7/571 (3) [25-1] 87-1/601 (2) The complete (basic tier) channel layout for ComCast-Beverly can be found here (one can change the zip code in the URL for their own particular system): http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:01915#sidebyside The first thing that strikes me is that the primary NTSC analog signal is not *necessarily* the first signal in the delay order: I would think that it should either be first??since there is no digital decode time??or, if just a retransmission of the secondary QAM's SD signal, equal with the SD, and the more data packed HD signal taking the longest. But it seems to vary by station (or is this discrepancy ComCast's doing?). At least with WHDH:-7, there appears to be distinct SD and HD feeds (not just a screen field cropping of the widescreen HD for the SD feed) as the news crawl at the bottom of the screen during the Today Show are different! Even weirder is that the cable analog signal would be ahead of even the non-cable OTA analog signal (which I suspect was because they got the signals from the stations "closed circuit" via fiber optic, rather than from the studio to STA to xmtr??)! The other thing is that the HD subchannels are scattered and intermixed between QAM's subchannels (e.g., [2-2] = 84-1, [56-1] = 84-2, [4-1] = 87-2, [5-1] = 86-1, [7-1] = 86-2), rather than some order to clustering (e.g., [2-1] = 84-1, [4-1] = 84-2, [5-1] = 84-3, ..., [2-2] = 85-1, [7-2] = 85-2, [44-2] = 85-3, ...; or, as the QAM subchannels can grow beyond "__-50"??e.g., 74-65 or 74-87??assign them all to subchannels of one whole channel??e.g., 74-__). In any case, as one can see, if you get a new HDTV, you DON'T need the cable company's own converter box or special coax line to view the analog channels OR the OTA HD channels they carry??though the cable HD stations (e.g., TNT-HD, Lifetime-HD, National Geographic, etc.) are scrambled, thus requiring their converter box. Finally, a couple of quickie channel questions for someone with ComCast's digital box. TBN/RAI used to coexist on analog ch.98: On the digital tier, they are listed as TBN-229 and RAI-679, but through the Vizio tuner, TBN = 113-7/727 and TBN/RAI = 74-6/523. So, ch.229 = 113-7/727, but is 74-6/523 ch.679 or a secondary QAM (74-6/523) for primary NTSC (analog) 98/109, or something else? Also, "Leased Access", 74-3/523, is listed as ComCast ch.283 (in the above channel layout link, ch.283 is listed as both History, 74-3/523, and Local, 83-12/577, which is actually the secondary QAM for WWDP:46), but what is the ComCast channel for the "E! Presents" preview channel (with the diagonal split screen), 85-6/589, and the "Events iN-DEMAND" channel (which is 64 QAM, not 256), 122-3/781? One other peculiarity is 74-87/523, which has a dead carrier and is listed in the above channel layout link as ch.3000 (!?!), "EAS Digital"! Since EAS interupts ALL cable channels, what is the purpose of it's own channel...or is that the originating "override" channel, meaning if someone hacked into the system and put something on ch.3000 (political rant, poro clip, etc.), it would broadcast on all of the channels? ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From gjspatola@q.com Sat Jul 4 16:07:09 2009 From: gjspatola@q.com (Glenn and Judy Spatola) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:07:09 -0700 Subject: WBCN Lunchtime songs - 1980's Message-ID: If you're referring to parodies also played by Charles Laquidara's alter ego Duane Glasscock, I remember several. Some were especially creative and memorable, others not so much. "Born To Be Mild," "Psycho Chicken," "Wop Music," and "Duane on the Roof" come to mind. Glenn Spatola Port Orchard, WA From hykker@wildblue.net Sat Jul 4 21:38:22 2009 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:38:22 -0400 Subject: Casey Kasem In-Reply-To: <23608139.1246552407700.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa. earthlink.net> References: <23608139.1246552407700.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4a500427.15025a0a.601e.ffffd9f3@mx.google.com> At 12:33 PM 7/2/2009, Eli Polonsky wrote: >WODS runs the remastered syndicated versions of Casey's 1970s >shows "American Top 40 - The '70s" > >It's amazing how many songs that were Top 40 then, even some >Top 10 hits, are no longer heard anywhere else on commercial >radio anymore. To be fair, an awful lot of 70s music has not aged well (and a lot of it wasn't even very good back in the day). I can't imagine there are many people who want to hear the Osmonds, Leif Garrett or the Defranco Family. Keep in mind that "You Light Up My Life" was the biggest selling single of the decade! From m_carney@yahoo.com Sat Jul 4 23:08:31 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Casey Kasem In-Reply-To: <4a500427.15025a0a.601e.ffffd9f3@mx.google.com> References: <23608139.1246552407700.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4a500427.15025a0a.601e.ffffd9f3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <585396.53423.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Well, I do have the Osmonds on CD, so I don't have to depend on the radio to hear them. No way on Leif Garrett, however. For me the pop music of the last 15-20 years is lost. I did hear a best-of Casey Kasem show on either Sirius or XM playing in a restaurant back in March. Mostly 80s stuff - it was just strange hearing Culture Club, Duran Duran and even Michael Jackson on a countdown. Maureen From hykker@wildblue.net Sat Jul 4 21:41:16 2009 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:41:16 -0400 Subject: WBCN Lunchtime songs - 1980's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4a5004d0.05035a0a.103f.ffff8816@mx.google.com> Glenn and Judy Spatola wrote: >If you're referring to parodies also played by Charles Laquidara's >alter ego Duane Glasscock, I remember several. Some were especially >creative and memorable, others not so much. "Born To Be Mild," >"Psycho Chicken," "Wop Music," and "Duane on the Roof" come to mind. "Psycho Chicken" (by the Fools) remains a staple on Dr. Demento to this day. IIRC, the 45 of it was a bonus record with an album they released in the early 80s. From irw@well.com Sun Jul 5 01:29:13 2009 From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: LaPierre on WBZ right now Message-ID: I do believe he's on with whomever the host is - right now - on WBZ radio. (The static is a bit thick here tonight, so I didn't catch the host name) - Blaine --------------------------------------------------------------------- Blaine Thompson Indiana RadioWatch irw@well.com http://www.indianaradio.net AOL Instant Messenger: indianaradio5 From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Jul 6 10:58:30 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:58:30 -0400 Subject: No IBOC on 1200, 1330, 1600 Message-ID: <29BA446A5E5C4129A4B5AE9E8070E5DC@SatU205S5044> When the new Newton AM triplex at 750 Saw Mill Brook Pkwy was built, all three stations' facilities supposedly included everything necessary at the transmitter end to allow broadcasting in AM-band IBOC. For sure, WKOX's studios, if not those of WRCA and WUNR, are IBOC compatible (which I think simply means stereo capable, but may also suggest that proper equalization/audio-compression equipment has been installed). We know that the WKOX studios (in Medford, I believe) have what it takes for IBOC because WKOX and WXKS (AM) are a 100% simulcast and WKOX runs IBOC 24/7. I figured that once all three stations had received licenses to cover (it happened in late May), we'd be hearing that insufferable AM-band IBOC hiss on 1190, 1210, 1320, 1340, 1590, and 1610. I don't miss the hiss but you may be able to catch it only on 1190 when WHAM's skywave comes in here. I've heard nothing that I could identify as IBOC hiss on the other five frequencies, however. I can think of several reasons why this might be so, but does anyone know the real reason? Although both CCU (WKOX) and Beasley (WRCA) have been ardent and vocal promoters of IBOC (including the AM-band variety), I don't think Champion (WUNR) has a taken a position on IBOC. OTOH, AFAIK. WUNR did install the necessary transmitter-site equipment because of an agreement that there would be "parity" between WRCA's and WUNR's facilities (whatever that means). Did any of the three companies purchase iBiquity licenses to transmit IBOC? These licenses are expensive and, considering the financial problems of both of the national companies (CCU and Beasley), maybe the iBiquity licenses became victims of the recession. Maybe the stations are waiting to turn on IBOC until the end of the 1-year period that began when licenses to cover were granted. During this period, the licensees are rquired to satisfy all reasonable complaints of interference to radio reception within the stations' 1V/m "blanketing" contours. Maybe the studio equipment is lacking--this could be a problem even for WKOX because, even though its studios themselves are IBOC capable, the audio link from Medford to Newton may not meet IBOC requirements. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Mon Jul 6 11:04:53 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:04:53 -0500 Subject: No IBOC on 1200, 1330, 1600 In-Reply-To: <29BA446A5E5C4129A4B5AE9E8070E5DC@SatU205S5044> References: <29BA446A5E5C4129A4B5AE9E8070E5DC@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80907060804t26fdb69aq1ed7ba81b43c045a@mail.gmail.com> For what it's worth, I heard IBOC hiss for the first time... on KMOX 1120. It is pretty disgusting, if you want to call it that.. heard the noise on 1100, 1110, 1130 and 1140 -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com\ www.facebook.com/onairdj walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > When the new Newton AM triplex at 750 Saw Mill Brook Pkwy was built, > all three stations' facilities supposedly included everything > necessary at the transmitter end to allow broadcasting in AM-band > IBOC. For sure, WKOX's studios, if not those of WRCA and WUNR, are > IBOC compatible (which I think simply means stereo capable, but may > also suggest that proper equalization/audio-compression equipment has > been installed). We know that the WKOX studios (in Medford, I believe) > have what it takes for IBOC because WKOX and WXKS (AM) are a 100% > simulcast and WKOX runs IBOC 24/7. > > I figured that once all three stations had received licenses to cover > (it happened in late May), we'd be hearing that insufferable AM-band > IBOC hiss on 1190, 1210, 1320, 1340, 1590, and 1610. I don't miss the > hiss but you may be able to catch it only on 1190 when WHAM's skywave > comes in here. I've heard nothing that I could identify as IBOC hiss > on the other five frequencies, however. I can think of several reasons > why this might be so, but does anyone know the real reason? > > Although both CCU (WKOX) and Beasley (WRCA) have been ardent and vocal > promoters of IBOC (including the AM-band variety), I don't think > Champion (WUNR) has a taken a position on IBOC. OTOH, AFAIK. WUNR did > install the necessary transmitter-site equipment because of an > agreement that there would be "parity" between WRCA's and WUNR's > facilities (whatever that means). > > Did any of the three companies purchase iBiquity licenses to transmit > IBOC? These licenses are expensive and, considering the financial > problems of both of the national companies (CCU and Beasley), maybe > the iBiquity licenses became victims of the recession. > > Maybe the stations are waiting to turn on IBOC until the end of the > 1-year period that began when licenses to cover were granted. During > this period, the licensees are rquired to satisfy all reasonable > complaints of interference to radio reception within the stations' > 1V/m "blanketing" contours. > > Maybe the studio equipment is lacking--this could be a problem even > for WKOX because, even though its studios themselves are IBOC capable, > the audio link from Medford to Newton may not meet IBOC requirements. > > From sid@wrko.com Mon Jul 6 12:00:03 2009 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:00:03 -0400 Subject: No IBOC on 1200, 1330, 1600 In-Reply-To: <29BA446A5E5C4129A4B5AE9E8070E5DC@SatU205S5044> References: <29BA446A5E5C4129A4B5AE9E8070E5DC@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE84682D31EBA@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>Did any of the three companies purchase iBiquity licenses to transmit IBOC? These licenses are expensive and, considering the financial problems of both of the national companies (CCU and Beasley), maybe the iBiquity licenses became victims of the recession.<< We may not know this until/if/when IBOC gets turned on. The contract between a station and iBiquity is, AFAIK, a private matter and requires no prior permission from the FCC (only notification when IBOC operations commence). Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Mon Jul 6 14:01:11 2009 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:01:11 -0400 Subject: Casey Kasem References: <23608139.1246552407700.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net><4a500427.15025a0a.601e.ffffd9f3@mx.google.com> <585396.53423.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004701c9fe63$c013a4a0$6b8b4c0c@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Maureen Carney Subject: Re: Casey Kasem > Well, I do have the Osmonds on CD, so I don't have to depend on the radio to hear them. No way on Leif Garrett, however. For me the pop music of the last 15-20 years is lost. > > I did hear a best-of Casey Kasem show on either Sirius or XM playing in a restaurant back in March. Mostly 80s stuff - it was just strange hearing Culture Club, Duran Duran and even Michael Jackson on a countdown. > > Maureen > Sirius and XM's decades channels are now identical, and are using Sirius' shallower, safer, better-testing playlists. There's really very little difference between what you'd hear on WODS and what you'd hear on '60s on 6 or '70s on 7 right now -- maybe a few more '60s titles than 'ODS, but nothing you hadn't heard jillions of times over the years when Oldies 103.3 basically meant the biggest hits of the '60s. The '80s channel, staffed (via voicetracking most of the time) by old MTV VJs, is focused narrowly on acts like Culture Club, Duran Duran, Van Halen, etc. -- just the music you remember from MTV, with none of the crossover content that used to bleed into Casey's American Top 40s every week. XM had a much looser approach to the decades, apparently much too loose for the big-chain programmers hired by Sirius, and as a result, except for the weekly Casem shows, every song played is 100 percent familiar to 100 percent of the listeners as the result of airplay on FM. Sirius' thinking is that what oldies fans want is FM without the commercials rather than content that goes beyond the standard FM playlist. They're most likely right -- as I think back on the broad-playlist challenges that have been squashed by the tried-and-true on FM over the years (WROR vs. WZLX, circa 2003, comes to mind.), I realize that the average listener is using radio as a pure background medium and wants to know and like, or at least not be distracted by, every song played. It's just sad for oldies geeks like myself who enjoyed being surprised by radio every so often when XM's programmers were in charge. Howard From m_carney@yahoo.com Tue Jul 7 08:44:37 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 05:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WJAR Anniversary Message-ID: <247793.95615.qm@web53302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> For those of you in the Providence viewing area, WJAR is running their 60th anniversary special this Friday @ 8pm (although oddly it's not listed in the TV lisings on their website). They're also running memories of the station during their various newscasts and on line? - http://www.turnto10.com/jar/online/60th_anniversary From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Jul 7 12:41:03 2009 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WMUR TV Chan 9 Manchester - National Ads loosing verbal audio Message-ID: <564187.74494.qm@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I noticed at least four times this month that during evening prime time, a few ads on WMUR-DT is lacking the verbal audio, you can only hear the background music, and the music is louder than just background level. A quick flip to WCVB-DT playing the same ad at the same time, presents the entire audio package a proper audio levels. I've noticed this on more than one television, and through different digital to analog TV converters. It's akin to a Beatles Capitol hi-fi stereo era record only being heard on one channel and not the other. It's distracting, if not amusing. John B N1RNX Londonderry NH From sid@wrko.com Tue Jul 7 14:04:31 2009 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 14:04:31 -0400 Subject: WMUR TV Chan 9 Manchester - National Ads loosing verbal audio In-Reply-To: <564187.74494.qm@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <564187.74494.qm@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE84682DF816D@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>I noticed at least four times this month that during evening prime time, a few ads on WMUR-DT is lacking the verbal audio, you can only hear the background music, and the music is louder than just background level. A quick flip to WCVB-DT playing the same ad at the same time, presents the entire audio package a proper audio levels. I've noticed this on more than one television, and through different digital to analog TV converters.<< If this is a mono feed of stereo audio, it almost looks like someone at Ch. 9 flipped the phase of one channel, so when the channels are combined anything common to both gets cancelled out. Even transmitting/listening in stereo, if one channel is 180 degrees out of phase from the other, it won't sound right. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Jul 7 18:48:00 2009 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WMUR TV Chan 9 Manchester - National Ads loosing verbal audio Message-ID: <418207.26298.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >If this is a mono feed of stereo audio, it almost looks > like someone at Ch. 9 flipped the phase of one channel, That makes sense. BTW, it just happened again at 6:40pm during World News with Michael Jackson, err Charles Gibson. John B From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Jul 7 18:50:49 2009 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WMUR TV Chan 9 Manchester audio out of phase? Message-ID: <135828.48338.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Lost audio at 6:47pm, once again, during Polygrip commercial but not during next two ads! John B From hykker@wildblue.net Tue Jul 7 19:57:36 2009 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:57:36 -0400 Subject: WMUR TV Chan 9 Manchester - National Ads loosing verbal audio In-Reply-To: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE84682DF816D@ENTCORMB1.etmco rad.com> References: <564187.74494.qm@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE84682DF816D@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <4a53e109.1e035a0a.555c.2464@mx.google.com> Sid Schweiger wrote: >If this is a mono feed of stereo audio, it almost looks like someone >at Ch. 9 flipped the phase of one channel, so when the channels are >combined anything common to both gets cancelled out. Is there an epidemic of this going around? In the weeks leading up to the analog shutdown, WCAX in Burlington was doing the same thing. Can't get their digital signal so I don't know if they've fixed it. From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jul 8 00:29:00 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:29:00 -0400 Subject: WMUR TV Chan 9 Manchester - National Ads loosing verbal audio In-Reply-To: <564187.74494.qm@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <564187.74494.qm@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A54208C.19234.592554@joe.attorneyross.com> On 7 Jul 2009 at 9:41, John Bolduc wrote: > I noticed at least four times this month that during evening prime > time, a few ads on WMUR-DT is lacking the verbal audio, you can only > hear the background music, and the music is louder than just > background level. Sounds like the channel 9 of old! > It's akin to a Beatles Capitol hi-fi stereo era record only being > heard on one channel and not the other. It's distracting, if not > amusing. I once heard that on WROR many years ago. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jul 8 00:29:00 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:29:00 -0400 Subject: WMUR TV Chan 9 Manchester - National Ads loosing verbal audio In-Reply-To: <418207.26298.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <418207.26298.qm@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A54208C.32659.59268B@joe.attorneyross.com> On 7 Jul 2009 at 15:48, John Bolduc wrote: > That makes sense. BTW, it just happened again at 6:40pm during World > News with Michael Jackson, err Charles Gibson. I've always wished it were possible for news channels to avoid the temptation to allow one story to take over and crowd out all the REST of the news. Sadly, even the deaths of other notable people get short shrift at times like this. In the absence of Michael Jackson's death, Farrah Fawcett, Ed MacMahon, and Robert S. MacNamara would be getting the attention they deserve. Likewise, the deaths of Frank Perdue Prince Renier of Monaco were overshadowed by the death of Pope John Paul II. The death of Aldous Huxley went unnoticed because he happened to die the same day as President Kennedy. And, the most unfortuate of all (to me anyway) is that Groucho Marx didn't get the TV tributes that were his due because he had the bad luck to die three days after Elvis. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From aerie.ma@comcast.net Wed Jul 8 13:50:12 2009 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:50:12 -0400 Subject: Portable Digital TVs? Message-ID: Does anyone know of a portable (battery-powered) digital TV that gets decent reception with the built-in antenna? I looked at an "Accurian" 7-inch TV at Radio Shack today. After reading online reviews, I knew enough to test it in the store. The TV has only a VHF-type single pole antenna built in, and after going outside the store and scanning, it received no signal from any station. Admittedly the Boston transmitters are 30-35 miles distant from the store, but WZMY's antenna would probably be visible from the store's location if there were no trees in the way. From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Jul 8 14:05:26 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:05:26 -0400 Subject: Portable Digital TVs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001501c9fff6$b87d0ad0$c4141bac@whdh.com> I have a Haier (available from Amazon) and likewise find it not very sensitive. So I hope I can ask if anyone knows of a compact portable amplified antenna for use with portable digital TV's? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Jim Hall Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:50 PM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Portable Digital TVs? Does anyone know of a portable (battery-powered) digital TV that gets decent reception with the built-in antenna? I looked at an "Accurian" 7-inch TV at Radio Shack today. After reading online reviews, I knew enough to test it in the store. The TV has only a VHF-type single pole antenna built in, and after going outside the store and scanning, it received no signal from any station. Admittedly the Boston transmitters are 30-35 miles distant from the store, but WZMY's antenna would probably be visible from the store's location if there were no trees in the way. From mward@iname.com Wed Jul 8 22:20:41 2009 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:20:41 -0400 Subject: Portable Digital TVs? In-Reply-To: <001501c9fff6$b87d0ad0$c4141bac@whdh.com> References: <001501c9fff6$b87d0ad0$c4141bac@whdh.com> Message-ID: <4A5553F9.1000401@iname.com> Larry Weil wrote: > I have a Haier (available from Amazon) and likewise find it not very > sensitive. So I hope I can ask if anyone knows of a compact portable > amplified antenna for use with portable digital TV's? I gave one of the "Digital Prism" units that went on sale for under $100 at CVS, oddly enough. It looks identical to the Haier, and I would not at all be surprised if it was the same unit, electronically. The unit is reasonably sensitive, but you can't expect to get crap with the little whip that comes with any of those sets. If you put anything resembling an antenna on it, it's much better...not quite as good as the Zenith/Insignia converter boxes, but reasonable enough. I'm also looking for a similar antenna. For now, I use the magmount whip that came with my USB HDTV dongle, and it outperforms the whip in the box without even trying...mounted to the roof of my car. Unfortunately, the aerial just broke...but until it did, I could get WKBN-DT 27.1-2 (CBS/FOX RF 41) out of Youngstown from the parking lot of my nearby McDonald's. From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Jul 9 02:00:57 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 02:00:57 -0400 Subject: Portable Digital TVs? In-Reply-To: <4A5553F9.1000401@iname.com> References: <001501c9fff6$b87d0ad0$c4141bac@whdh.com> <4A5553F9.1000401@iname.com> Message-ID: <19029.34713.482766.410658@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Unfortunately, the aerial just broke...but until it did, I could get > WKBN-DT 27.1-2 (CBS/FOX RF 41) out of Youngstown from the parking lot of > my nearby McDonald's. One should mention, just for the sake of our primarily New England-based readership here, that you live in Akron, Ohio, which is about 40 miles from Youngstown. Unless you've moved recently. -GAWollman From gallen2@nescaum.org Thu Jul 9 12:43:56 2009 From: gallen2@nescaum.org (George Allen) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:43:56 -0400 Subject: Portable Digital TVs? Message-ID: An idea -- consider a laptop with one of those usb tuners. But you're still going to need something more than whatever antenna comes with it to get decent signals away from the source. Any built-in is probably good for 10-20 miles at best, and maybe less, regardless of the tuner. -- George ______________________________________________________ From: "Jim Hall" Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:50:12 -0400 Does anyone know of a portable (battery-powered) digital TV that gets decent reception with the built-in antenna? I looked at an "Accurian" 7-inch TV at Radio Shack today. After reading online reviews, I knew enough to test it in the store. The TV has only a VHF-type single pole antenna built in, and after going outside the store and scanning, it received no signal from any station. Admittedly the Boston transmitters are 30-35 miles distant from the store, but WZMY's antenna would probably be visible from the store's location if there were no trees in the way. From aerie.ma@comcast.net Thu Jul 9 13:31:40 2009 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:31:40 -0400 Subject: Portable Digital TVs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13A4BA8130AC4521ABDD3712452945CC@fs.uml.edu> I used to have one of those little 2.5-inch watchman-type analog portables that I would use during power failures. With analog transmissions, the pole antenna was good enough. Actually, the Boston UHF stations came in quite well on it 35 miles from the towers. I was hoping to find a similar digital set, but most of the reviews online for the various models warn you to try them out before buying. It seems kind of silly to have to have a big antenna on a set the size of a paperback book. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of George Allen Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 12:44 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Portable Digital TVs? An idea -- consider a laptop with one of those usb tuners. But you're still going to need something more than whatever antenna comes with it to get decent signals away from the source. Any built-in is probably good for 10-20 miles at best, and maybe less, regardless of the tuner. -- From phylo1@yahoo.com Sat Jul 4 23:12:47 2009 From: phylo1@yahoo.com (Phyllis) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WBCN Lunchtime songs Message-ID: <945711.96728.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Oh yes, I definitely remember the BCN Lunchtime songs - although I can't think of many specific ones. I remember "Everybody loves the dessert cart", and my sister, who I think was an intern for Tom Sandman, made one called "I"m waitin' on Lunchtime" which I'm not sure ever got played on the air. I wish there was a CD compilation of them Billy West became the voice of many well known cartoons - especially Futurama. I see his name often in credits. You can find his bio on Wikipedia. Phyllis PS - does anyone know the best way to reply to a message in the digest? When I click forward or reply, all I get are all the headers. ( I figured I'd just delete everything except the message I was replying to, but the messages don't show up.) I'm using Yahoo mail. Forwarded Message: WBCN Lunchtime songs - 1980's WBCN Lunchtime songs - 1980's Thursday, July 2, 2009 1:04 AM From: "Tom Giarrosso" To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Does anyone remember the WBCN Lunchtime songs Captain Ken Shelton used to play at noon every weekday that voice guys Billy West and Tom Sandman used to create? I came across an aircheck I made 20+ years ago of one of their 'best of' days, where they played them for the whole lunchtime. Tom Giarrosso www.boffoyuxdudes.com boffoyux@gmail.com > From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Jul 9 20:30:12 2009 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 17:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Portable Digital TVs? Message-ID: <252012.75674.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > An idea -- consider a laptop with one > of those usb tuners.? I'm used a Hauppauge WinTV HVT-850 usb digital tuner on my laptop. The setup with the little telescoping antenna works quite well, OUTDOORS. In doors connected to an outdoor antenna it works just as well as any of the digital converer boxes I have. Pretty good for $49 on sale. John B N1RNX Londonderry NH From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Jul 10 00:56:16 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:56:16 -0400 Subject: Portable Digital TVs? In-Reply-To: <13A4BA8130AC4521ABDD3712452945CC@fs.uml.edu> References: , <13A4BA8130AC4521ABDD3712452945CC@fs.uml.edu> Message-ID: <4A56C9F0.19329.5FF6E3@joe.attorneyross.com> On 9 Jul 2009 at 13:31, Jim Hall wrote: > I used to have one of those little 2.5-inch watchman-type analog > portables that I would use during power failures. With analog > transmissions, the pole antenna was good enough. Actually, the Boston > UHF stations came in quite well on it 35 miles from the towers. > > I was hoping to find a similar digital set, but most of the reviews > online for the various models warn you to try them out before buying. > It seems kind of silly to have to have a big antenna on a set the size > of a paperback book. I have one of those TVs. I've succeeded in connecting it to a converter box. To do it I took a piece of coaxial cable and soldered a suitable plug on one end to connect to the TV's antenna jack. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From atolz@comcast.net Fri Jul 10 02:15:04 2009 From: atolz@comcast.net (Alan Tolz) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:15:04 -0400 Subject: WBCN Lunchtime songs References: <945711.96728.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: http://www.billywest.com/index4.htm Go to the "Media Center" tab...you'll find 24 WBCN Lunch Songs there. And they're GREAT! Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis" To: Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:12 PM Subject: Re: WBCN Lunchtime songs > > > Oh yes, I definitely remember the BCN Lunchtime songs - although I can't > think of many specific ones. I remember "Everybody loves the dessert > cart", and my sister, who I think was an intern for Tom Sandman, made one > called "I"m waitin' on Lunchtime" which I'm not sure ever got played on > the air. I wish there was a CD compilation of them > > Billy West became the voice of many well known cartoons - especially > Futurama. I see his name often in credits. You can find his bio on > Wikipedia. > > Phyllis > > PS - does anyone know the best way to reply to a message in the digest? > When I click forward or reply, all I get are all the headers. ( I figured > I'd just delete everything except the message I was replying to, but the > messages don't show up.) I'm using Yahoo mail. > > > Forwarded Message: WBCN Lunchtime songs - 1980's > WBCN Lunchtime songs - 1980's > Thursday, July 2, 2009 1:04 AM > From: > "Tom Giarrosso" > To: > boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Does anyone remember the WBCN Lunchtime songs Captain Ken Shelton used to > play at noon every weekday that voice guys Billy West and Tom Sandman used > to create? I came across an aircheck I made 20+ years ago of one of their > 'best of' days, where they played them for the whole lunchtime. > > Tom Giarrosso > www.boffoyuxdudes.com > boffoyux@gmail.com > > >> > > > > From map@mapinternet.com Fri Jul 10 14:05:33 2009 From: map@mapinternet.com (Mark Casey) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:05:33 -0400 Subject: Portable Digital TVs? References: , <13A4BA8130AC4521ABDD3712452945CC@fs.uml.edu> <4A56C9F0.19329.5FF6E3@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <0033D439DA494F8AA54A4BB5E9F93A44@yourm3vezyx8af> About a year1/2 ago, I bought a Pinnacle PCTV usb thumb drive units for the laptop from Circuit City. For a short while, it worked very well, even indoor reception wasn't too bad. It came with a small mag mount antenna. Then it started locking up the laptop. Turns out there was (or is) a glitch with Vista. I returned it. Maybe they have the bugs worked out by now. A friend of mine has used one of the Hauppuage units with a laptop running XP for at least 2 years now, with good results. Mark Casey From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Fri Jul 10 22:33:53 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:33:53 -0400 Subject: WBCN Lunchtime songs References: <945711.96728.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Alan: Well worth the click. Great memories. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Tolz" To: "Phyllis" ; Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 2:15 AM Subject: Re: WBCN Lunchtime songs > > http://www.billywest.com/index4.htm > Go to the "Media Center" tab...you'll find 24 WBCN Lunch Songs there. And > they're GREAT! > > Alan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phyllis" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:12 PM > Subject: Re: WBCN Lunchtime songs > > >> >> >> Oh yes, I definitely remember the BCN Lunchtime songs - although I can't >> think of many specific ones. I remember "Everybody loves the dessert >> cart", and my sister, who I think was an intern for Tom Sandman, made one >> called "I"m waitin' on Lunchtime" which I'm not sure ever got played on >> the air. I wish there was a CD compilation of them >> >> Billy West became the voice of many well known cartoons - especially >> Futurama. I see his name often in credits. You can find his bio on >> Wikipedia. >> >> Phyllis >> >> PS - does anyone know the best way to reply to a message in the digest? >> When I click forward or reply, all I get are all the headers. ( I figured >> I'd just delete everything except the message I was replying to, but the >> messages don't show up.) I'm using Yahoo mail. >> >> >> Forwarded Message: WBCN Lunchtime songs - 1980's >> WBCN Lunchtime songs - 1980's >> Thursday, July 2, 2009 1:04 AM >> From: >> "Tom Giarrosso" >> To: >> boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >> Does anyone remember the WBCN Lunchtime songs Captain Ken Shelton used >> to play at noon every weekday that voice guys Billy West and Tom Sandman >> used to create? I came across an aircheck I made 20+ years ago of one of >> their 'best of' days, where they played them for the whole lunchtime. >> >> Tom Giarrosso >> www.boffoyuxdudes.com >> boffoyux@gmail.com >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Sat Jul 11 13:26:07 2009 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:26:07 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Final Analog Shutdown Time(s?) Tomorrow? Message-ID: <4A58CB2F.6030905@Gmail.com> Anyone know what time tomorrow ch.s 2,4 and 5 shut off their "NightLight" service (Portland WCSH-6 shut their's off a couple of weeks ago at 9am)? ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Jul 11 22:15:39 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:15:39 -0500 Subject: Congrats Gil Santos Message-ID: <4fc429770907111915n61510516me6cdd19d0704ae83@mail.gmail.com> I noticed yesterday that with little fanfare WBZ made Gil Santos the second member of the station's Hall of Fame Now nothing against Gary or Gil who certainly deserve it but isn't it time WBZ honored the many great men and women who have worked there? From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jul 12 06:28:00 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:28:00 -0400 Subject: Congrats Gil Santos References: <4fc429770907111915n61510516me6cdd19d0704ae83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sounds as if management is nervous about reminding the listners that a great many of those great people are--horror of horrors--dead. Management probably doesn't want to remind the audience that if those personalities of yesteryear were still alive, some of them would probably be well over 100 years old. What effect would such a reminder have on WBZ's importance to today's "money demos?" Sounds as if management wants to have it both ways--they want WBZ to be historic but with few reminders of its very long--and mostly rather glorious--history. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" ; "Scott Fybush" Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:15 PM Subject: Congrats Gil Santos >I noticed yesterday that with little fanfare WBZ made Gil Santos the > second member of the station's Hall of Fame > > Now nothing against Gary or Gil who certainly deserve it but isn't > it > time WBZ honored the many great men and women who have worked there? From sid@wrko.com Sun Jul 12 09:48:51 2009 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 07:48:51 -0600 Subject: Congrats Gil Santos In-Reply-To: References: <4fc429770907111915n61510516me6cdd19d0704ae83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE84682E7BD50@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> "Sounds as if management is nervous about reminding the listners that a great many of those great people are--horror of horrors--dead. Management probably doesn't want to remind the audience that if those personalities of yesteryear were still alive, some of them would probably be well over 100 years old...Now nothing against Gary or Gil who certainly deserve it but isn't it time WBZ honored the many great men and women who have worked there?" As much as it pains me to say this: It matters to us on this list, but will it matter all that much to WBZ's listeners? I have my doubts. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From kvahey@comcast.net Sun Jul 12 14:29:19 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:29:19 -0500 Subject: Congrats Gil Santos In-Reply-To: References: <4fc429770907111915n61510516me6cdd19d0704ae83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770907121129l637b5ad3j7a2b51ecfbd146ca@mail.gmail.com> Sid I think the recent expressions of sadness over the death of Larry Glick shows it does matter to listeners. Boston.com had over a thousand comments on his death. Jess Cain as well and he had no current station to relive his career From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Sun Jul 12 15:43:57 2009 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:43:57 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Final Analog Shutdown Time(s?) Tomorrow? Message-ID: <4A5A3CFD.5080002@Gmail.com> I previously wrote, > Anyone know what time tomorrow ch.s 2,4 and 5 shut off > their "NightLight" service (Portland WCSH-6 shut their's > off a couple of weeks ago at 9am)? Well, one down, two to go: WBZ-4 was noted off by 3:25pm (happened sometime after noon, when I last checked). ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From billohno@gmail.com Sun Jul 12 15:48:15 2009 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:48:15 -0400 Subject: Congrats Gil Santos In-Reply-To: <4fc429770907121129l637b5ad3j7a2b51ecfbd146ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770907111915n61510516me6cdd19d0704ae83@mail.gmail.com> <4fc429770907121129l637b5ad3j7a2b51ecfbd146ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A5A3DFF.3030301@gmail.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: > Sid > > I think the recent expressions of sadness over the death of Larry > Glick shows it does matter to listeners. > > Boston.com had over a thousand comments on his death. Jess Cain as > well and he had no current station to relive his career > > Of course it matters. It is that WBZ has been out of touch with what worked: "The Spirit of New England." It's like an old typecast actor who fights the basis on which he or she was successful to begin with. And then steps out to rebuild. Perspective reaffirms this for me. I'd pushed the old "full service AC on AM is a unique brand that died too quickly" only to ignore snickers. I'm still in ignore-mode on that one. It's so refreshing to be out of touch. Bill O'Neill From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Jul 12 18:00:07 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:00:07 -0400 Subject: Congrats Gil Santos In-Reply-To: <4fc429770907121129l637b5ad3j7a2b51ecfbd146ca@mail.gmail.co m> References: <4fc429770907111915n61510516me6cdd19d0704ae83@mail.gmail.com> <4fc429770907121129l637b5ad3j7a2b51ecfbd146ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090712220008.EEDE2E205DC@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> At 02:29 PM 7/12/2009, Kevin Vahey wrote: >I think the recent expressions of sadness over the death of Larry >Glick shows it does matter to listeners. Boston.com had over a >thousand comments on his death. Jess Cain as >well and he had no current station to relive his career But WBZ, like many stations, is very conflicted over remembering its history. The upper levels of CBS have this belief that "history" means you are OLD and your station won't attract young people if you focus on the past. That is why many heritage stations, when they are bought by new owners, give up those historical call letters-- allegedly, one's history is meaningless because it won't get you any ratings in the next Arbitron. Further, sales people believe historical events are not salable. So when WBZ-TV's 50th anniversary came and went, not much was done to celebrate it. And when Gil Santos is made a member of the new WBZ Radio Hall of Fame, the idea of spending money on an actual event seems counterproductive or expensive. I of course disagree with these sorts of attitudes-- you don't wanna be a museum to the past or make no modern improvements, but you also should not forget the great people your audience may have grown up listening to. There were generations who listened to Glick, and Jess Cain, and Gary LaPierre. It's nice to find a way to let the listeners say thank-you. From kvahey@comcast.net Sun Jul 12 18:13:36 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:13:36 -0500 Subject: Congrats Gil Santos In-Reply-To: <20090712220008.EEDE2E205DC@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> References: <4fc429770907111915n61510516me6cdd19d0704ae83@mail.gmail.com> <4fc429770907121129l637b5ad3j7a2b51ecfbd146ca@mail.gmail.com> <20090712220008.EEDE2E205DC@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770907121513p2395efa4h86ca56232dae2c0e@mail.gmail.com> Management never sleeps From paul.bacchiocchi@verizon.net Sun Jul 12 17:35:03 2009 From: paul.bacchiocchi@verizon.net (Paul Bacchiocchi) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:35:03 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Final Analog Shutdown Time(s?) Tomorrow? Message-ID: <1C03676FED99440890A9709256A02744@PaulLaptop> Kaimbridge M.GoldChild previously wrote> > Anyone know what time tomorrow ch.s 2,4 and 5 shut off > > their "NightLight" service (Portland WCSH-6 shut their's > > off a couple of weeks ago at 9am)? >Well, one down, two to go: WBZ-4 was noted off by 3:25pm (happened >sometime after noon, when I last checked).That would explain when I tried to install a USB TV stick on my laptop it did not pick up Channel 4. And of course, I've been recording Channel 5 waiting for the bitter end. Paul From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Mon Jul 13 00:48:49 2009 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Boston Analog TV are gone (was Re: [B-R-I] Re: Final Analog Shutdown Time(s?) Tomorrow?) Message-ID: <16267.98070.qm@web50806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> WCVB-TV (Channel 5) and WGBH-TV (Channel 2) were the last to go. First WCVB-TV pulled the switch on their analog at 12:00:03 AM this morning. WGBH-TV didn't shutdown until 12:07 AM. (Hey, these things happen, I guess). So, effectively analog TV in Boston is closed. By three AM, all mainland analog TV's will be gone. By 5:00 AM, Alaska will say goodbye to analog. Hawaii shutdown analog several months ago. Goodbye, analog. Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** > > >Well, one down, two to go: WBZ-4 was noted off by > 3:25pm (happened > >sometime after noon, when I last checked).That would > explain when I tried to install a USB TV stick on my laptop > it did > not pick up Channel 4.? And of course, I've been > recording Channel 5 waiting > for the bitter end. > > ? ? Paul > From marklaurence@mac.com Mon Jul 13 11:33:19 2009 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:33:19 -0400 Subject: Earl Finckle, 1927-2009 Message-ID: <107314989090530923676835824107110769133-Webmail@me.com> The Chicago Tribune reports the death of meteorologist Earl Finckle. He was based in Chicago and famous for his years of forecasts on WOWO, but in the 1980's he was the key weather personality for 14Q, WFTQ, when we branded the station "Worcester's Weather Station." Earl was a folksy, friendly guy who picked up on local landmarks and people, and made his forecasts fun to hear. He was one of the first to pick up on global warming, and the first weather person I know of to make a big deal out of El Nino, which is once again changing the weather around the world this year. Chicago Tribune's Robert Mitchum's obit: http://tinyurl.com/nwa92z WGN meteorologist Tom Skilling's tribute: http://tinyurl.com/ntg6ad From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Mon Jul 13 14:17:04 2009 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (Doug Drown) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:17:04 -0400 Subject: Earl Finckle, 1927-2009 References: <107314989090530923676835824107110769133-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: <41310634160E4606858C9B9E1EFE5350@DougDrown> I really liked Earl Finckle. He did the weather reports for WGN-TV's syndicated "U.S. Farm Report" for years. His forecasts were indeed fun to watch and hear. I haven't seen the Farm Report in quite a while; when Orion Samuelson hosted it, and Earl did the weather, it was like seeing a televised version of the Farm Journal. In some respects it was as slick as any big-city newscast, but it also had a rural charm, and made agriculture interesting to us folks who aren't farmers. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Laurence" To: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: Earl Finckle, 1927-2009 > The Chicago Tribune reports the death of meteorologist Earl Finckle. He > was based in Chicago and famous for his years of forecasts on WOWO, but in > the 1980's he was the key weather personality for 14Q, WFTQ, when we > branded the station "Worcester's Weather Station." Earl was a folksy, > friendly guy who picked up on local landmarks and people, and made his > forecasts fun to hear. He was one of the first to pick up on global > warming, and the first weather person I know of to make a big deal out of > El Nino, which is once again changing the weather around the world this > year. > > Chicago Tribune's Robert Mitchum's obit: http://tinyurl.com/nwa92z > WGN meteorologist Tom Skilling's tribute: http://tinyurl.com/ntg6ad > From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Jul 13 15:06:04 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:06:04 -0400 Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy Message-ID: <000001ca03ec$fef58970$c4141bac@whdh.com> Well, if you can find one: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9375071 &st=HD+Radio&type=product&id=1218094581941 I'd like to hear if anyone here ahs bought one, and if so what you think of it? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From aerie.ma@comcast.net Mon Jul 13 15:21:33 2009 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:21:33 -0400 Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy In-Reply-To: <000001ca03ec$fef58970$c4141bac@whdh.com> References: <000001ca03ec$fef58970$c4141bac@whdh.com> Message-ID: <35850F66B99A4838825E9D9E77E16D98@fs.uml.edu> I'd be interested in knowing if the radio has a speaker, or if you have to listen on earbuds. There is not really much point in having crystal-clear digital sound if it's playing through a 1 inch speaker. It really is getting very hard to find a moderately-priced portable or table top radio these days that has decent-sized and decent-sounding speakers. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Weil Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:06 PM To: Boston-Radio Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy Well, if you can find one: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9375071 &st=HD+Radio&type=product&id=1218094581941 I'd like to hear if anyone here ahs bought one, and if so what you think of it? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Jul 13 16:18:03 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:18:03 -0400 Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy References: <000001ca03ec$fef58970$c4141bac@whdh.com> <35850F66B99A4838825E9D9E77E16D98@fs.uml.edu> Message-ID: <79323B872B2F45FE98BDE1731284CF0D@SatU205S5044> It's gotta be the Insignia (isn't that LG?) unit that was pictured in Tom Taylor's column this morning, because, according to Tom--for the moment, at least--it is the the _only_ pocket-sized HD radio. No way that unit has a speaker; it's too small, but it looks a lot larger than even the largest cell phone and looks to be bigger than a lot of PDAs. Also, no info on whether it receives AM-band HD broadcasts, FM-band HD broadcasts, or analog broadcasts on either band. Also no word on the price or the playing time per recharge of the built-in Li-ion battery. Taylor says the small footprint is the result of a new, smaller and less power-hungry chip set, but I have a feeling that the playing time is going to turn out to be on the brief side (maybe four hours) and the sensitivity is likely to leave much to be desired. I have an LG ATSC to NTSC converter box and it works pretty well, but it is not fair to predict how this radio will perform based on the performance of the converter. The radio's performance is pretty much determined by the behavior of the chip set and the chip set manufacturer probably is a different company from the one that manufactured the converter box's critical chips. Also, I think converter boxes are on something like the fourth generation of their chips, whereas this is only the second generation of HD Radio chips. It is likely to take several more generations of chips before the radio performance and battery life reach an acceptable level. Another reason why it is likely to take a while before the radios are very good is the small unit volumes of HD radios that are being sold. Low volumes mean little cutomer feedback, not to mention little incentive for the chip manufacturers to work very hard on improving the chips. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hall" To: Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:21 PM Subject: RE: Portable HD Radio at best Buy > I'd be interested in knowing if the radio has a speaker, or if you > have to > listen on earbuds. There is not really much point in having > crystal-clear > digital sound if it's playing through a 1 inch speaker. It really is > getting > very hard to find a moderately-priced portable or table top radio > these days > that has decent-sized and decent-sounding speakers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On > Behalf Of > Larry Weil > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:06 PM > To: Boston-Radio > Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy > > Well, if you can find one: > > http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9375071 > type=product&id=1218094581941> > &st=HD+Radio&type=product&id=1218094581941 > > I'd like to hear if anyone here ahs bought one, and if so what you > think of > it? > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Jul 13 15:55:50 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:55:50 -0400 Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy In-Reply-To: <35850F66B99A4838825E9D9E77E16D98@fs.uml.edu> References: <000001ca03ec$fef58970$c4141bac@whdh.com> <35850F66B99A4838825E9D9E77E16D98@fs.uml.edu> Message-ID: <000b01ca03f3$eda4feb0$c4141bac@whdh.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Jim Hall > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:22 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: RE: Portable HD Radio at best Buy > > I'd be interested in knowing if the radio has a speaker, or > if you have to > listen on earbuds. There is not really much point in having > crystal-clear > digital sound if it's playing through a 1 inch speaker. It > really is getting > very hard to find a moderately-priced portable or table top > radio these days > that has decent-sized and decent-sounding speakers. AFAIK, this is a "walkman", not a table radio. I know they can't use the word "walkman" though because that's a Sony trademark. > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of > Larry Weil > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:06 PM > To: Boston-Radio > Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy > > Well, if you can find one: > > http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9375071 > 1&st=HD+Radio& > type=product&id=1218094581941> > &st=HD+Radio&type=product&id=1218094581941 > > I'd like to hear if anyone here ahs bought one, and if so > what you think of > it? > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > > From mward@iname.com Mon Jul 13 19:08:15 2009 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:08:15 -0400 Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy In-Reply-To: <79323B872B2F45FE98BDE1731284CF0D@SatU205S5044> References: <000001ca03ec$fef58970$c4141bac@whdh.com> <35850F66B99A4838825E9D9E77E16D98@fs.uml.edu> <79323B872B2F45FE98BDE1731284CF0D@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4A5BBE5F.3060908@iname.com> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > It's gotta be the Insignia (isn't that LG?) unit that was pictured in > Tom Taylor's column this morning, because, according to Tom--for the > moment, at least--it is the the _only_ pocket-sized HD radio. I don't know what, if anything else LG/Zenith makes under the Insignia house brand for Best Buy...aside from the DTVconverter box... From scott@fybush.com Mon Jul 13 20:04:34 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:04:34 -0400 Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy In-Reply-To: <4A5BBE5F.3060908@iname.com> References: <000001ca03ec$fef58970$c4141bac@whdh.com> <35850F66B99A4838825E9D9E77E16D98@fs.uml.edu> <79323B872B2F45FE98BDE1731284CF0D@SatU205S5044> <4A5BBE5F.3060908@iname.com> Message-ID: <4A5BCB92.8090106@fybush.com> Mike Ward wrote: > Dan.Strassberg wrote: >> It's gotta be the Insignia (isn't that LG?) unit that was pictured in >> Tom Taylor's column this morning, because, according to Tom--for the >> moment, at least--it is the the _only_ pocket-sized HD radio. > > I don't know what, if anything else LG/Zenith makes under the Insignia > house brand for Best Buy...aside from the DTVconverter box... > Insignia is the house brand BB slaps on devices made by a variety of manufacturers. I'm not sure who's actually making this unit. It's the same one I saw at the NAB show in Las Vegas in April, when it had a "KRI" label on it. No AM, just FM analog/HD. They were claiming four hours of battery life then...now they're claiming "up to" 10. I'm feeling slightly peeved that Tom and Radio World both got to play with pre-production test units - I asked, too, and nobody ever got back to me... s From dave@skywaves.net Mon Jul 13 22:05:50 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:05:50 -0400 Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy References: <000001ca03ec$fef58970$c4141bac@whdh.com> <35850F66B99A4838825E9D9E77E16D98@fs.uml.edu> <79323B872B2F45FE98BDE1731284CF0D@SatU205S5044><4A5BBE5F.3060908@iname.com> <4A5BCB92.8090106@fybush.com> Message-ID: <66B8387487C34364BA466590370074DE@skywaves.com> I ordered one from BB today to pick up at the Worcester store that had them "in stock". When I went to pick it up, they said the computer says they have two, but they couldn't find 'em. Maybe I'll try Seekonk on Weds when i'm in Providence. -d ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Mike Ward" ; Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Portable HD Radio at best Buy > > Mike Ward wrote: >> Dan.Strassberg wrote: >>> It's gotta be the Insignia (isn't that LG?) unit that was pictured in >>> Tom Taylor's column this morning, because, according to Tom--for the >>> moment, at least--it is the the _only_ pocket-sized HD radio. >> >> I don't know what, if anything else LG/Zenith makes under the Insignia >> house brand for Best Buy...aside from the DTVconverter box... >> > > Insignia is the house brand BB slaps on devices made by a variety of > manufacturers. I'm not sure who's actually making this unit. It's the same > one I saw at the NAB show in Las Vegas in April, when it had a "KRI" label > on it. No AM, just FM analog/HD. They were claiming four hours of battery > life then...now they're claiming "up to" 10. > > I'm feeling slightly peeved that Tom and Radio World both got to play with > pre-production test units - I asked, too, and nobody ever got back to > me... > > s > > > From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jul 13 22:14:15 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:14:15 -0500 Subject: channel 7 problems in Windy City Message-ID: <4fc429770907131914l2b52f9d6l9906b2cb91772219@mail.gmail.com> Chicago also has been having major problems with signal since moving from Ch 52 to 7 last month I know people who live close to downtown and are getting nothing. WBBM-DT is also having problems but they have never had a good digital signal to begin with. I talked to an engineer at WLS and he said they are pushing to move back to UHF permanently and they are very aware of the problems in Boston. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-mon-dtv-0713-jul13,0,5673945.story From brscomm@yahoo.com Mon Jul 13 19:04:16 2009 From: brscomm@yahoo.com (Bill Smith) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:04:16 -0500 Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy In-Reply-To: <000b01ca03f3$eda4feb0$c4141bac@whdh.com> References: <000001ca03ec$fef58970$c4141bac@whdh.com><35850F66B99A4838825E9D9E77E16D98@fs.uml.edu> <000b01ca03f3$eda4feb0$c4141bac@whdh.com> Message-ID: <6485508E18384E12A64C69E98B5E1363@wesels> I found one at a Best Buy here outside Saint Louis. This is my first foray into HD radio land and I don't claim to be either an audiophile or HD expert. It is a Walkman type unit, about 2x3 inches and just over 1/2 inch thick. It is FM only and has a Lithium Ion battery that they claim is good for approximately 10 hours of use. They supply a USB cable to charge it and a pair of earbuds. No speakers. It comes with an armband, which implies exercise. I don't think I'll be using that... Reception is pretty good. I'm about 30 air miles from the STL FM transmitters, though land here is much flatter than back there. It out-receives an MP3 player Audio is quite good on both HD1 and HD2. The AM simulcasts on a couple of HD3 channels sound terrible. Too much sibilance and tinny audio, about what I was used to hearing on WBZ analog when they fired up HD. Controls are simple enough. On the whole, not a bad unit. Bill in STL From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jul 14 00:35:43 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:35:43 -0400 Subject: Boston Analog TV are gone (was Re: [B-R-I] Re: Final Analog Shutdown Time(s?) Tomorrow?) In-Reply-To: <16267.98070.qm@web50806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <16267.98070.qm@web50806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A5C0B1F.30381.6B6D9D@joe.attorneyross.com> On 12 Jul 2009 at 21:48, Peter Q. George wrote: > WCVB-TV (Channel 5) and WGBH-TV (Channel 2) were the last to go. > First WCVB-TV pulled the switch on their analog at 12:00:03 AM this > morning. WGBH-TV didn't shutdown until 12:07 AM. (Hey, these things > happen, I guess). So, effectively analog TV in Boston is closed. The LP around UHF channel 26 is still on. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@scanworcester.com Tue Jul 14 00:11:26 2009 From: joe@scanworcester.com (Joe) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:11:26 -0400 Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy In-Reply-To: <66B8387487C34364BA466590370074DE@skywaves.com> References: <000001ca03ec$fef58970$c4141bac@whdh.com> <35850F66B99A4838825E9D9E77E16D98@fs.uml.edu> <79323B872B2F45FE98BDE1731284CF0D@SatU205S5044><4A5BBE5F.3060908@iname.com> <4A5BCB92.8090106@fybush.com> <66B8387487C34364BA466590370074DE@skywaves.com> Message-ID: <00dc01ca0439$2939eef0$7badccd0$@com> I checked the in-store status, and it showed Worcester as not having any. Boo. Marlboro has it in-stock, and to think I was just there on Sunday. If I had only known then. - Joe -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:06 PM To: Scott Fybush; Mike Ward; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Portable HD Radio at best Buy I ordered one from BB today to pick up at the Worcester store that had them "in stock". When I went to pick it up, they said the computer says they have two, but they couldn't find 'em. Maybe I'll try Seekonk on Weds when i'm in Providence. -d From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jul 14 00:51:36 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:51:36 -0400 Subject: WATD signal Message-ID: <4A5C0ED8.28589.79F70F@joe.attorneyross.com> Saturday evening around 10:30 PM, as I was leaving a conference at the Mariott near Burlington Mall, I noticed WATD coming in loud and clear there. The signal was strong along Route 128 until I got on I- 93 South, then it faded for awhile, but came back stronger as I got closer to Boston. I always find it amazing how far away from Marshfield I can get that station in my car, especially where in my home in Brookline I can't get it on any other radio, except badly on my livingroom stereo. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From heritageradio@msn.com Tue Jul 14 01:44:36 2009 From: heritageradio@msn.com (thomas heathwood) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:44:36 -0400 Subject: MEMORIES Message-ID: RE: Sid and Kevin's comments about vintage radio personalities - It has been my experience as an old-time broadcaster that "out of sight, out of mind" applies. I think that Larry and Jess were recent enough and had a long and prominent history in Boston radio sufficient to stir memories of a large group of older listeners. Once in a while someone will tell me they recall hearing me on WCRB, WBCN, or other local stations, but I was a "secondary" personality and not generally remembered by most. I have more audience contact nowadays at age 75 with my weekly netcast than with any old-days experiences. I recall Sherm Feller once saying that he was sure no one would remember him or any other contemporary broadcasters 25 years from (then) now. Sad, but true, it's like the Boston Herald column, "Who's In - Whos' Out" Tom Heathwood HeritageRadio@msn.com 7/14 From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Jul 14 02:51:16 2009 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy Message-ID: <3868386.1247554276188.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> One warning about Best Buy - make sure that you have your credit card for payment if you don't want a hassle. Recently, I bought my mom a DVD player for her birthday at the Best Buy in Watertown, and when I began to pay with cash, the young cashiers looked at me as though I was a Martian. It turned out that only one of their cash registers is still equipped to accept cash, and it had been so long since anyone else had used cash there, that they had no idea which register it was. They called a "manager" over, and he didn't know either. They had to try three registers on me to find the only one that would still accept my cash. This is a true story!!! EP From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jul 14 07:15:01 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:15:01 -0400 Subject: WATD signal References: <4A5C0ED8.28589.79F70F@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <2F1805CC79384327B34A63C5FADAC274@SatU205S5044> But this report was probably a case of tropospheric ducting, AKA "trops," a condition common in coastal areas at this time of year, especially in humid weather. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:51 AM Subject: WATD signal > Saturday evening around 10:30 PM, as I was leaving a conference at > the Mariott near Burlington Mall, I noticed WATD coming in loud and > clear there. The signal was strong along Route 128 until I got on > I- > 93 South, then it faded for awhile, but came back stronger as I got > closer to Boston. > > I always find it amazing how far away from Marshfield I can get that > station in my car, especially where in my home in Brookline I can't > get it on any other radio, except badly on my livingroom stereo. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Tue Jul 14 07:25:15 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:25:15 -0500 Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy In-Reply-To: <3868386.1247554276188.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <3868386.1247554276188.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80907140425q14279fd3qf8e5bc031f4b369a@mail.gmail.com> Oh man, Ely, thats a good one. I don't use credit cards, and rarely use debit cars when I shop.. I pay mostly with cash. -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com www.facebook.com/onairdj walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > One warning about Best Buy - make sure that you have > your credit card for payment if you don't want a hassle. > > Recently, I bought my mom a DVD player for her birthday > at the Best Buy in Watertown, and when I began to pay > with cash, the young cashiers looked at me as though I > was a Martian. > > It turned out that only one of their cash registers is still > equipped to accept cash, and it had been so long since > anyone else had used cash there, that they had no idea > which register it was. They called a "manager" over, and > he didn't know either. They had to try three registers on > me to find the only one that would still accept my cash. > > This is a true story!!! > > EP > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Tue Jul 14 07:27:01 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:27:01 -0500 Subject: Boston Analog TV are gone (was Re: [B-R-I] Re: Final Analog Shutdown Time(s?) Tomorrow?) In-Reply-To: <4A5C0B1F.30381.6B6D9D@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <16267.98070.qm@web50806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A5C0B1F.30381.6B6D9D@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80907140427v7a63a91ci2558358c5aa09a4e@mail.gmail.com> And it will probably still be on for awhile, as LPTV's aren't required to go digital. What is on LPTV 26? Paul Walker www.onairdj.com www.facebook.com/onairdj walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:35 PM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 12 Jul 2009 at 21:48, Peter Q. George wrote: > > > WCVB-TV (Channel 5) and WGBH-TV (Channel 2) were the last to go. > > First WCVB-TV pulled the switch on their analog at 12:00:03 AM this > > morning. WGBH-TV didn't shutdown until 12:07 AM. (Hey, these things > > happen, I guess). So, effectively analog TV in Boston is closed. > > The LP around UHF channel 26 is still on. > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 07:32:07 2009 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:32:07 -0400 Subject: Boston Analog TV are gone (was Re: [B-R-I] Re: Final Analog Shutdown Time(s?) Tomorrow?) In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80907140427v7a63a91ci2558358c5aa09a4e@mail.gmail.com> References: <16267.98070.qm@web50806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A5C0B1F.30381.6B6D9D@joe.attorneyross.com> <8bce0fe80907140427v7a63a91ci2558358c5aa09a4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601ca0476$b9d13cb0$2d73b610$@net> > And it will probably still be on for awhile, as LPTV's aren't required > to go > digital. > > What is on LPTV 26? Probably WFXZ-CA 24. I believe W40BO on 40 is still on, running either Ion or Qubo. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From paulranderson@charter.net Tue Jul 14 08:02:35 2009 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:02:35 -0400 Subject: Portable HD Radio at best Buy In-Reply-To: <3868386.1247554276188.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <3868386.1247554276188.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Jul 14, 2009, at 2:51 AM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > One warning about Best Buy - make sure that you have > your credit card for payment if you don't want a hassle. > > Recently, I bought my mom a DVD player for her birthday > at the Best Buy in Watertown, and when I began to pay > with cash, the young cashiers looked at me as though I > was a Martian. > > It turned out that only one of their cash registers is still > equipped to accept cash, and it had been so long since > anyone else had used cash there, that they had no idea > which register it was. They called a "manager" over, and > he didn't know either. They had to try three registers on > me to find the only one that would still accept my cash. > > This is a true story!!! I always use cash since it's easier than using credit cards. Whenever I buy something at Best Buy in Nashua, the register always has a full supply of cash in it and no one ever says a word about my using cash. I suppose if I were buying an item costing over $200, I'd use a credit card; otherwise I always use cash. Once at the cafeteria in the building I worked, someone charged a piece of toast for 79?. Unbelievable! Paul From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Tue Jul 14 12:02:44 2009 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (Doug Drown) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:02:44 -0400 Subject: Congrats Gil Santos References: <4fc429770907111915n61510516me6cdd19d0704ae83@mail.gmail.com><4fc429770907121129l637b5ad3j7a2b51ecfbd146ca@mail.gmail.com> <20090712220008.EEDE2E205DC@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <39B7138B2537464DAA2C201225F070E6@DougDrown> I couldn't agree more with your post. People like Carl deSuze, Art Amadon, Bob Emery --- the long-gone "late greats" among us --- deserve to be remembered, as well as Larry Glick, Jess Cain, Gary LaPierre, Gil Santos and (yes!) Sherm Feller. As for CBS, the company does seem conflicted about its own, and Westinghouse's, history. KCBS' "100th" (nee KQW) was appropriately observed recently, but as Dan said, WBZ-TV's 60th anniversary came and went. I wonder whether WBZ's 90th will be observed in a couple of years. It's interesting to note that, despite this schizoid attitude, CBS Radio, under the logo on its website, touts the fact that it was established in 1928. Go figure. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Kevin Vahey" ; "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Congrats Gil Santos > At 02:29 PM 7/12/2009, Kevin Vahey wrote: > >>I think the recent expressions of sadness over the death of Larry >>Glick shows it does matter to listeners. Boston.com had over a thousand >>comments on his death. Jess Cain as >>well and he had no current station to relive his career > > But WBZ, like many stations, is very conflicted over remembering its > history. The upper levels of CBS have this belief that "history" means > you are OLD and your station won't attract young people if you focus on > the past. That is why many heritage stations, when they are bought by new > owners, give up those historical call letters-- > allegedly, one's history is meaningless because it won't get you any > ratings in the next Arbitron. Further, sales people believe historical > events are not salable. So when WBZ-TV's 50th anniversary came and went, > not much was done to celebrate it. And when Gil Santos is made a member > of the new WBZ Radio Hall of Fame, the idea of spending money on an actual > event seems counterproductive or expensive. I of course disagree with > these sorts of attitudes-- you don't wanna be a museum to the past or make > no modern improvements, but you also should not forget the great people > your audience may have grown up listening to. There were generations who > listened to Glick, and Jess Cain, and Gary LaPierre. It's nice to find a > way to let the listeners say thank-you. From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Tue Jul 14 12:39:39 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:39:39 -0500 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM Message-ID: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> From Radio Info.com: **** and in the case of Boston, that means the demise of Boston rocker WBCN at 104.1. CBS is going to transfer its hot AC "Mix" WBMX from 98.5 to 104.1. On August 13, the new "Sports Hub" will debut on 98.5, featuring play-by-play from the NFL Patriots and NHL Boston Bruins, plus the current WBCN morning show of Toucher & Rich. New call letters for 98.5 - WBZ-FM. That station will directly challenge Boston's entrenched all-sports station, Entercom's WEEI at 850. In Washington, CBS confirms the much-rumored conversion of talker WJFK (106.7) to sports as "The Fan", as of July 20. The lineup will include the NBA Washington Wizards, plus - as rumored in T-R-I - the Westwood One NFL package. Details at Radio-Info.com - ****** From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Jul 14 13:10:55 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:10:55 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006001ca04a6$0da99420$c7151bac@whdh.com> I heard Eli Polanski talking about this earlier on his WMBR show, presumably he got it from the same source. Is there any confirmation of this, I don't always consider radio-info to be a reliable source if it's a member posting. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Paul B. Walker, Jr. Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:40 PM To: bri; Boston Radio Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM From Radio Info.com: **** and in the case of Boston, that means the demise of Boston rocker WBCN at 104.1. CBS is going to transfer its hot AC "Mix" WBMX from 98.5 to 104.1. On August 13, the new "Sports Hub" will debut on 98.5, featuring play-by-play from the NFL Patriots and NHL Boston Bruins, plus the current WBCN morning show of Toucher & Rich. New call letters for 98.5 - WBZ-FM. That station will directly challenge Boston's entrenched all-sports station, Entercom's WEEI at 850. In Washington, CBS confirms the much-rumored conversion of talker WJFK (106.7) to sports as "The Fan", as of July 20. The lineup will include the NBA Washington Wizards, plus - as rumored in T-R-I - the Westwood One NFL package. Details at Radio-Info.com - ****** From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Jul 14 13:13:51 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:13:51 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <19036.48335.578340.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > From Radio Info.com: Reminder to all: posts on this list are to be in your own words. Do not cut and paste from news Web sites. -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Jul 14 13:14:56 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:14:56 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <006001ca04a6$0da99420$c7151bac@whdh.com> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> <006001ca04a6$0da99420$c7151bac@whdh.com> Message-ID: <19036.48400.829986.95249@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I heard Eli Polanski talking about this earlier on his WMBR show, presumably > he got it from the same source. Is there any confirmation of this, I don't > always consider radio-info to be a reliable source if it's a member posting. See the press release at cbsradio.com. I think that's pretty reliable. (Scott has a brief one-paragraph update atop yesterday's NERW as well.) -GAWollman From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Tue Jul 14 13:17:19 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:17:19 -0500 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <19036.48335.578340.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> <19036.48335.578340.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80907141017x39a967d3n5a67ff1548bdac5@mail.gmail.com> Normally I link to sites, but there asn't a direct lk to a page just about the news story and i didnt have time to relly type up awhole diatribe -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com www.facebook.co/onairdj walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> said: > > > From Radio Info.com: > > Reminder to all: posts on this list are to be in your own words. Do > not cut and paste from news Web sites. > > -GAWollman > From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Jul 14 13:33:02 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:33:02 -0500 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 Message-ID: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> http://www.bostonradiowatch.com and http://www.radio-info.com are reporting that WBCN will move to 98.5 on August 13 and adopt a sports format; WBMX moves to 104.1. WBCN will be known as "the Sports Hub". Toucher and Rich will stay on WBCN...oh, and they'll have the Pats and Bruins and will be known as WBZ-FM\... From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Tue Jul 14 12:39:39 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:39:39 -0500 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM Message-ID: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> From Radio Info.com: **** and in the case of Boston, that means the demise of Boston rocker WBCN at 104.1. CBS is going to transfer its hot AC "Mix" WBMX from 98.5 to 104.1. On August 13, the new "Sports Hub" will debut on 98.5, featuring play-by-play from the NFL Patriots and NHL Boston Bruins, plus the current WBCN morning show of Toucher & Rich. New call letters for 98.5 - WBZ-FM. That station will directly challenge Boston's entrenched all-sports station, Entercom's WEEI at 850. In Washington, CBS confirms the much-rumored conversion of talker WJFK (106.7) to sports as "The Fan", as of July 20. The lineup will include the NBA Washington Wizards, plus - as rumored in T-R-I - the Westwood One NFL package. Details at Radio-Info.com - ****** From aerie.ma@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 13:19:08 2009 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:19:08 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <006001ca04a6$0da99420$c7151bac@whdh.com> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> <006001ca04a6$0da99420$c7151bac@whdh.com> Message-ID: <00D2D98FA6284F94A77EC136F713E10E@fs.uml.edu> I think the various websites may be taking their cue from the Boston Phoenix. http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/dontquoteme/archive/2009/07/14/adios-wbcn.aspx In the Phoenix story, there is a link to the press release from CBS. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Weil Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:11 PM To: 'Paul B. Walker, Jr.'; 'bri'; 'Boston Radio' Subject: RE: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM I heard Eli Polanski talking about this earlier on his WMBR show, presumably he got it from the same source. Is there any confirmation of this, I don't always consider radio-info to be a reliable source if it's a member posting. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Paul B. Walker, Jr. Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:40 PM To: bri; Boston Radio Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM From Radio Info.com: **** and in the case of Boston, that means the demise of Boston rocker WBCN at 104.1. CBS is going to transfer its hot AC "Mix" WBMX from 98.5 to 104.1. On August 13, the new "Sports Hub" will debut on 98.5, featuring play-by-play from the NFL Patriots and NHL Boston Bruins, plus the current WBCN morning show of Toucher & Rich. New call letters for 98.5 - WBZ-FM. That station will directly challenge Boston's entrenched all-sports station, Entercom's WEEI at 850. In Washington, CBS confirms the much-rumored conversion of talker WJFK (106.7) to sports as "The Fan", as of July 20. The lineup will include the NBA Washington Wizards, plus - as rumored in T-R-I - the Westwood One NFL package. Details at Radio-Info.com - ****** From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Jul 14 13:10:55 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:10:55 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006001ca04a6$0da99420$c7151bac@whdh.com> I heard Eli Polanski talking about this earlier on his WMBR show, presumably he got it from the same source. Is there any confirmation of this, I don't always consider radio-info to be a reliable source if it's a member posting. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Paul B. Walker, Jr. Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:40 PM To: bri; Boston Radio Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM From Radio Info.com: **** and in the case of Boston, that means the demise of Boston rocker WBCN at 104.1. CBS is going to transfer its hot AC "Mix" WBMX from 98.5 to 104.1. On August 13, the new "Sports Hub" will debut on 98.5, featuring play-by-play from the NFL Patriots and NHL Boston Bruins, plus the current WBCN morning show of Toucher & Rich. New call letters for 98.5 - WBZ-FM. That station will directly challenge Boston's entrenched all-sports station, Entercom's WEEI at 850. In Washington, CBS confirms the much-rumored conversion of talker WJFK (106.7) to sports as "The Fan", as of July 20. The lineup will include the NBA Washington Wizards, plus - as rumored in T-R-I - the Westwood One NFL package. Details at Radio-Info.com - ****** From m_carney@yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 14:09:58 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <153851.99612.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> The only problem with Mike Felger doing a show is that he also works for WEEI.com and subs on WEEI. Gary Tanguay being on both isn't an issue. I'm hearing some scuttlebut on logistics in the office but haven't heard anything official yet. The other problem is scheduling - sometimes guests for Sports Tonight are pre-taped depending on availability and that's done between 4-6pm. Perhaps other changes that were in the works with the NECN deal will address that issue. So how soon before we here Bob Lobel's name being mentioned for middays? From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jul 14 14:11:20 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:11:20 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Question 1: Does the advent of the PPM make call letters irrelevant? Used to be that broadcasting companies wanted different calls on AMs and FMs that were not simulcasting. There are lots of exceptions, including WXKS (AM) and -FM locally, but far more stations still follow the separate call letters "rule" than break it. I think the idea used to be that sharing call signs would result in under-reporting of listenership. Of course, that applied under the diary system but it seems irrelevant now. 2. Are all the machinations about moving WBMX to 104.1 and putting WBZ-FM on 98.5, rather than leaving WBMX at 98.5 and putting WBZ-FM on 104.1 related to coverage differences between 98.5 and 104.1? 98.5 is on FM-128, I think--or maybe it's on the WBZ-TV tower. Anyhow, 98.5 is 7.7 miles west-southwest of 104.1. That means that 98.5 has a better signal in Worcester than does 104.1. Why 98.5 never moved downtown is unclear to me, however. Can't be an IF problem--98.5+10.7 is above the top of the FM band and 98.5-10.7 is below the bottom of the band. Is it a spacing problem from downtown to third-adjacent WPLM-FM? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: "bri" ; "Boston Radio" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM > From Radio Info.com: From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Jul 14 14:22:41 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:22:41 -0500 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM Message-ID: <20090714182241.398FB83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Would anybody be surprised if Entercom tries to beat CBS to the punch by switching either WMKK 93.7 or WKAF 97.7 to a simulcast of WEEI now (or both? covering some areas WEEI has trouble with at night; FM signal, etc.) I think WMKK did okay in the 25-54 with a jockless format. Well, a simulcast would also be low overhead but maybe good results. From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Jul 14 14:30:06 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:30:06 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> At 01:33 PM 7/14/2009, Bob Nelson wrote: >http://www.bostonradiowatch.com and http://www.radio-info.com are >reporting that WBCN will move to 98.5 on August 13 >and adopt a sports format; WBMX moves to 104.1. WBCN will be known >as "the Sports Hub". Toucher and Rich will stay on >WBCN...oh, and they'll have the Pats and Bruins and will be known as >WBZ-FM\... Umm, call me crazy, but how many sports and sports-talk formats does this town really need (or can this town really support)? From scott@fybush.com Tue Jul 14 14:37:20 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:37:20 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <20090714182241.398FB83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20090714182241.398FB83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4A5CD060.5080705@fybush.com> Bob Nelson wrote: > Would anybody be surprised if Entercom tries to beat CBS to the punch by switching either WMKK 93.7 or WKAF 97.7 to > a simulcast of WEEI now (or both? covering some areas WEEI has trouble with at night; FM signal, etc.) I think WMKK > did okay in the 25-54 with a jockless format. Well, a simulcast would also be low overhead but maybe good results. > My gut tells me that if WEEI on FM in Boston hasn't happened now, it's not going to happen. WMKK is a pretty consistent biller and extremely inexpensive to run, and I don't think Entercom can risk losing that cash flow right now. They won't blow up WAAF, especially since it now stands to pick up some audience from BCN. And WKAF by itself doesn't have enough of a signal to be a credible EEI-FM. As for the recurring question, "why move Mix and launch sports on 98.5," I don't think it's that much about the comparative signals. Yes, 98.5 does a little better to the west, into WEEI's night null, but over the core of the market's population there's not that much difference between 98.5 and 104.1. My sense is that they just want a fresh start for the sports, and by putting it on 98.5 with new calls, they avoid the perception that it's just another new format change for BCN. And there's little risk of losing the Mix audience along the way; given proper promotion, they'll follow that format anywhere. s From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Jul 14 14:43:56 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:43:56 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006401ca04b3$10ac60f0$c7151bac@whdh.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:11 PM > To: Paul B. Walker, Jr.; bri; Boston Radio > Subject: Re: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM > > > 2. Are all the machinations about moving WBMX to 104.1 and putting > WBZ-FM on 98.5, rather than leaving WBMX at 98.5 and putting WBZ-FM on > 104.1 related to coverage differences between 98.5 and 104.1? 98.5 is > on FM-128, I think--or maybe it's on the WBZ-TV tower. Anyhow, 98.5 is > 7.7 miles west-southwest of 104.1. That means that 98.5 has a better > signal in Worcester than does 104.1. Why 98.5 never moved downtown is > unclear to me, however. Can't be an IF problem--98.5+10.7 is above the > top of the FM band and 98.5-10.7 is below the bottom of the band. Is > it a spacing problem from downtown to third-adjacent WPLM-FM? > I was thinking about this, and came up with the idea that perhaps they want to have their sport-talk station closer on the dial (do any radios still have a dial?) to the political-talk station that's already on 96.9, so that talk listeners might find it easier. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jul 14 14:11:20 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:11:20 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Question 1: Does the advent of the PPM make call letters irrelevant? Used to be that broadcasting companies wanted different calls on AMs and FMs that were not simulcasting. There are lots of exceptions, including WXKS (AM) and -FM locally, but far more stations still follow the separate call letters "rule" than break it. I think the idea used to be that sharing call signs would result in under-reporting of listenership. Of course, that applied under the diary system but it seems irrelevant now. 2. Are all the machinations about moving WBMX to 104.1 and putting WBZ-FM on 98.5, rather than leaving WBMX at 98.5 and putting WBZ-FM on 104.1 related to coverage differences between 98.5 and 104.1? 98.5 is on FM-128, I think--or maybe it's on the WBZ-TV tower. Anyhow, 98.5 is 7.7 miles west-southwest of 104.1. That means that 98.5 has a better signal in Worcester than does 104.1. Why 98.5 never moved downtown is unclear to me, however. Can't be an IF problem--98.5+10.7 is above the top of the FM band and 98.5-10.7 is below the bottom of the band. Is it a spacing problem from downtown to third-adjacent WPLM-FM? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: "bri" ; "Boston Radio" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM > From Radio Info.com: From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Tue Jul 14 14:57:12 2009 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (Doug Drown) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:57:12 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: >> Umm, call me crazy, but how many sports and sports-talk formats does this >> town really need (or can this town really support)? Well, it'll bring Boston just about up to the same level as Bangor, which has about 500,000 fewer people and four --- count 'em, FOUR --- all-sports stations (WZON, WDME, WAEI and WAEI-FM), not to mention 10,000-watt WSKW in Skowhegan, which reaches Bangor and is only 50 miles away. The whole enterprise of commercial broadcasting is nuts nowadays, IMHO. Curmudgeonly yours, Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Bob Nelson" ; "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: Re: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 > At 01:33 PM 7/14/2009, Bob Nelson wrote: >>http://www.bostonradiowatch.com and http://www.radio-info.com are >>reporting that WBCN will move to 98.5 on August 13 >>and adopt a sports format; WBMX moves to 104.1. WBCN will be known as "the >>Sports Hub". Toucher and Rich will stay on >>WBCN...oh, and they'll have the Pats and Bruins and will be known as >>WBZ-FM\... > > Umm, call me crazy, but how many sports and sports-talk formats does this > town really need (or can this town really support)? > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Jul 14 15:06:05 2009 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:06:05 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0907141206m383a4ba7xb36e6fa583f0f7f1@mail.gmail.com> Probably two or three; two solid ones (WEEI and the new outlet) and maybe WAMG/WLLH with ESPN programming and games for good measure. There is also WWZN but they're brokered progtalk most of the time these days anyway, with sports and other brokered time otherwise. Sports and the young male demo is highly thought of these days and you could see young adult males flocking to a FM sports talker rather than those old, static-filled AM freqs. > Umm, call me crazy, but how many sports and sports-talk formats does this > town really need (or can this town really support)? > > From m_carney@yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 15:10:40 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <804825.83868.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Donna wrote: Umm, call me crazy, but how many sports and sports-talk formats does this town really need (or can this town really support)? Two - this could be the death knell for ESPN890. They'll either be foreign-language or birdfeed ESPN 24/7 by the end of the year. From keithlavon@gmail.com Tue Jul 14 14:19:03 2009 From: keithlavon@gmail.com (Keith Lavon) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:19:03 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3c6f0dce0907141119v4fe6b526n82be4d054a025ef2@mail.gmail.com> CBS has done something similar in Baltimore when they created the sports station there at WJZ-FM (WJZ are heritage calls in Baltimore). WJZ-AM, while also sports, is not the same sports station and just runs ESPN all day while WJZ-FM The Fan is local.... Basically taking the same formula to Boston... On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Question 1: Does the advent of the PPM make call letters irrelevant? > Used to be that broadcasting companies wanted different calls on AMs > and FMs that were not simulcasting. There are lots of exceptions, > including WXKS (AM) and -FM locally, but far more stations still > follow the separate call letters "rule" than break it. I think the > idea used to be that sharing call signs would result in > under-reporting of listenership. Of course, that applied under the > diary system but it seems irrelevant now. > > 2. Are all the machinations about moving WBMX to 104.1 and putting > WBZ-FM on 98.5, rather than leaving WBMX at 98.5 and putting WBZ-FM on > 104.1 related to coverage differences between 98.5 and 104.1? 98.5 is > on FM-128, I think--or maybe it's on the WBZ-TV tower. Anyhow, 98.5 is > 7.7 miles west-southwest of 104.1. That means that 98.5 has a better > signal in Worcester than does 104.1. Why 98.5 never moved downtown is > unclear to me, however. Can't be an IF problem--98.5+10.7 is above the > top of the FM band and 98.5-10.7 is below the bottom of the band. Is > it a spacing problem from downtown to third-adjacent WPLM-FM? > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." < > walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> > To: "bri" ; "Boston Radio" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:39 PM > > Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM > > > From Radio Info.com: >> > > From kvahey@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 15:22:50 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:22:50 -0500 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770907141222r149eba77n437b0823fd7abf4d@mail.gmail.com> Meanwhile in Maui a volcano should be erupting shortly http://www.bigmattress.com/mt-archives/2009/07/sniff_sniff.html From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Jul 14 15:28:12 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:28:12 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <804825.83868.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <804825.83868.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Two - this could be the death knell for ESPN890. They'll either be > foreign-language or birdfeed ESPN 24/7 by the end of the year. I bet Disney would be willing to pull ESPN from 890/1400 if it meant a decent amount of clearance on a station that people will actually listen to. -GAWollman From paul@derrynh.net Tue Jul 14 15:33:18 2009 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:33:18 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <68C045ABFA6245DC8172890413839F96@PaulPC> So can one conclude that WBOS and WAAF (and WFNX) are the big winners in this change? -Paul Hopfgarten -Derry NH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: "bri" ; "Boston Radio" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM > From Radio Info.com: > > **** and in the case of Boston, that means the demise of Boston rocker > WBCN > at 104.1. CBS is going to transfer its hot AC "Mix" WBMX from 98.5 to > 104.1. > On August 13, the new "Sports Hub" will debut on 98.5, featuring > play-by-play from the NFL Patriots and NHL Boston Bruins, plus the current > WBCN morning show of Toucher & Rich. New call letters for 98.5 - WBZ-FM. > That station will directly challenge Boston's entrenched all-sports > station, > Entercom's WEEI at 850. In Washington, CBS confirms the much-rumored > conversion of talker WJFK (106.7) to sports as "The Fan", as of July 20. > The > lineup will include the NBA Washington Wizards, plus - as rumored in > T-R-I - > the Westwood One NFL package. Details at Radio-Info.com - ****** > From paul@derrynh.net Tue Jul 14 15:33:18 2009 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:33:18 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <68C045ABFA6245DC8172890413839F96@PaulPC> So can one conclude that WBOS and WAAF (and WFNX) are the big winners in this change? -Paul Hopfgarten -Derry NH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: "bri" ; "Boston Radio" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM > From Radio Info.com: > > **** and in the case of Boston, that means the demise of Boston rocker > WBCN > at 104.1. CBS is going to transfer its hot AC "Mix" WBMX from 98.5 to > 104.1. > On August 13, the new "Sports Hub" will debut on 98.5, featuring > play-by-play from the NFL Patriots and NHL Boston Bruins, plus the current > WBCN morning show of Toucher & Rich. New call letters for 98.5 - WBZ-FM. > That station will directly challenge Boston's entrenched all-sports > station, > Entercom's WEEI at 850. In Washington, CBS confirms the much-rumored > conversion of talker WJFK (106.7) to sports as "The Fan", as of July 20. > The > lineup will include the NBA Washington Wizards, plus - as rumored in > T-R-I - > the Westwood One NFL package. Details at Radio-Info.com - ****** > From scott@fybush.com Tue Jul 14 15:41:25 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:41:25 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <804825.83868.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> Two - this could be the death knell for ESPN890. They'll either be >> foreign-language or birdfeed ESPN 24/7 by the end of the year. > > I bet Disney would be willing to pull ESPN from 890/1400 if it meant a > decent amount of clearance on a station that people will actually > listen to. I don't think ESPN and 98.5 will be a good fit. If 98.5 is going to work, it will be heavily local, without much room to clear ESPN's product. We already know it will be local in mornings, so there goes the flagship Mike & Mike show. I think ESPN can survive as a niche on 890, for that relatively small number of Boston listeners who want something other than nonstop Sox/Pats/Bs/Cs. National sports is almost a completely separate format from what WEEI does and what 98.5 should be doing, and I don't think there's any other sports market in the country (except maybe NYC or Philly) that's as parochial about its home teams. Meanwhile, watch the fireworks from down in NYC - the Times is selling WQXR for $45 million. Univision Radio pays $33.5 million for the 96.3 facility so it can move WCAA there from 105.9; WNYC pays $11.5 million for the 105.9 facility and the WQXR intellectual property. WNYC-FM 93.9 will be all news/information, and WQXR on 105.9 will be noncommercial classical 24/7. s From paul@derrynh.net Tue Jul 14 15:41:53 2009 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:41:53 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <20090714182241.398FB83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20090714182241.398FB83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: OR... Put WAAF on 93.7 and the //WEEI on 107.3........ -Paul Hopfgarten -Derry NH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "Garrett Wollman" ; "Larry Weil" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:22 PM Subject: RE: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM Would anybody be surprised if Entercom tries to beat CBS to the punch by switching either WMKK 93.7 or WKAF 97.7 to a simulcast of WEEI now (or both? covering some areas WEEI has trouble with at night; FM signal, etc.) I think WMKK did okay in the 25-54 with a jockless format. Well, a simulcast would also be low overhead but maybe good results. From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Jul 14 15:41:57 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:41:57 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <19036.57221.909278.379807@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > signal in Worcester than does 104.1. Why 98.5 never moved downtown is > unclear to me, however. Can't be an IF problem--98.5+10.7 is above the > top of the FM band and 98.5-10.7 is below the bottom of the band. Is > it a spacing problem from downtown to third-adjacent WPLM-FM? Are WBMX and WPLM-FM fully-spaced now? If they aren't, then they are almost certainly pre-'64 short-spaced, in which case there is no third-adjacent spacing restriction. (Or even a second-adjacent spacing restriction.) -GAWollman From lglavin@mail.com Tue Jul 14 15:34:12 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:12 -0500 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM Message-ID: <20090714193412.3E393606865@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: "Garrett Wollman" , "Larry Weil" >Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: RE: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM >Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:22:41 -0500 >Would anybody be surprised if Entercom tries to beat CBS to the >punch by switching either WMKK 93.7 or WKAF 97.7 to >a simulcast of WEEI now (or both? covering some areas WEEI has >trouble with at night; FM signal, etc.) I think WMKK >did okay in the 25-54 with a jockless format. Well, a simulcast >would also be low overhead but maybe good results. Last year there was rumor circulating that Entercomm might be interested in setting up an LMA that would put WEEI-AM programming on Nassau's 99.5 frequency, now being wasted with WCRB. Since then, Nassau has become even more financially troubled and forced to enter into deals with firms that lent it money. Could those outfits, which are not in the broadcasting business themselves, see this as an ideal opportunity to unload their holdings? -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From bob.bosra@demattia.net Tue Jul 14 15:42:30 2009 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:42:30 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <4fc429770907141222r149eba77n437b0823fd7abf4d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <4fc429770907141222r149eba77n437b0823fd7abf4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Now if only CBS couldn't have worked out a double swap with Greater Media,then we could have WROR on 98.5 and WBZ-FM on 106.7. Next, change the call letters of WOdius back to WEEI-FM. It's the 70's all over again. :-) -Bob From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 15:51:51 2009 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:51:51 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: References: <20090714182241.398FB83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <003401ca04bc$8846e230$98d4a690$@net> > OR... > > Put WAAF on 93.7 and the //WEEI on 107.3........ Probably unlikely, as the last time I saw 25-54 ratings posted somewhere, 93.7 Mike FM was doing very well. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Jul 14 16:00:32 2009 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:00:32 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM Message-ID: <13597234.1247601632905.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > From: "Dan.Strassberg" > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:11 PM > > Why 98.5 never moved downtown is unclear to me, however. > Can't be an IF problem--98.5+10.7 is above the top of the FM > band and 98.5-10.7 is below the bottom of the band. 98.5 + 10.7 would be 109.2... who knows, maybe there's a Logan Airport control tower beacon on there, or something. 98.5 - 10.7 could cause IF with the old analog TV channel 6, but I guess that's not a potential problem anymore. EP From rich@RichChadwick.com Tue Jul 14 16:04:45 2009 From: rich@RichChadwick.com (Rich Chadwick) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:04:45 -0400 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 13, Issue 300 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003901ca04be$552f9700$ff8ec500$@com> Thanks again Rich Chadwick President MultiMediaPros Digital Studios 978.740.3922 x201 -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of boston-radio-interest-request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:23 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 13, Issue 300 Send Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list submissions to boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.BostonRadio.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-radio-interest or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org You can reach the person managing the list at boston-radio-interest-owner@lists.BostonRadio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Boston-Radio-Interest digest..." From m_carney@yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 16:04:55 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <68C045ABFA6245DC8172890413839F96@PaulPC> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> <68C045ABFA6245DC8172890413839F96@PaulPC> Message-ID: <432374.55772.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> And WBZ-AM - no more Bruins interruptions for Dan Rea. From marklaurence@mac.com Tue Jul 14 16:10:48 2009 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:10:48 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 Message-ID: <0KMS003XZG1SXI90@asmtp011.mac.com> My favorite quote from the Big Mattress comments: "It looks like the creek done rise." -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Vahey Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:22 PM To: Doug Drown Cc: BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Re: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 Meanwhile in Maui a volcano should be erupting shortly http://www.bigmattress.com/mt-archives/2009/07/sniff_sniff.html From scott@fybush.com Tue Jul 14 16:26:57 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:26:57 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <804825.83868.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com><19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> Message-ID: <4A5CEA11.90005@fybush.com> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Why shouldn't 105.9 be commercial classical? In Chicago ,WFMT, a > commercial classical station, is owned by a non-commercial FM (actually, > a non-commercial FM and TV, I think). As a commercial classical station, > WFMT apparently brings un more revenue for the noncommercial station or > stations that own it than would a noncommercial classical FM. Also, is > 105.9 licensed to New York City or to someplace else, like maybe Newark? > Is it on ESB or Conde Nast or someplace else? 105.9 is a less-than-full B1 from Empire - 600 watts ERP from the same master antenna that the full Bs use at 6 kW/410m. It's not yet clear to me whether WNYC intends to run WQXR 105.9 as commercial or noncomm. There are tax implications if they run it as a commercial enterprise...and if they have any intention of using translators to fill in some of the lost 96.3 coverage, they can't do any signal extension of a commercial signal. If they own the translator as well as the main signal, the translator's 60 dBu can't go outside the main signal's 60 dBu, so that's no good out on Long Island. s From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Tue Jul 14 16:34:02 2009 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:34:02 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM Message-ID: <4A5CEBBA.3000304@Gmail.com> Larry Weil wrote, > perhaps they want to have their sport-talk station closer > on the dial (do any radios still have a dial?) to the > political-talk station that's already on 96.9, so that > talk listeners might find it easier. But it also makes it convenient for someone with an analog AM/FM tuner to flip between them and WEEI, as 98.5 and 0.850 are near each other on the dial (position-wise). I would think "WBZ-FM" would be a better fit for 103.3??as it has already built an identity relationship via HD-2??and move Oldies to 104.1, but maybe they want to "FRESH"en up The Mix! P=) ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jul 14 16:10:51 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:10:51 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <804825.83868.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com><19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> Message-ID: Why shouldn't 105.9 be commercial classical? In Chicago ,WFMT, a commercial classical station, is owned by a non-commercial FM (actually, a non-commercial FM and TV, I think). As a commercial classical station, WFMT apparently brings un more revenue for the noncommercial station or stations that own it than would a noncommercial classical FM. Also, is 105.9 licensed to New York City or to someplace else, like maybe Newark? Is it on ESB or Conde Nast or someplace else? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Garrett Wollman" Cc: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: Re: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 > Garrett Wollman wrote: >> <> said: >> > > Meanwhile, watch the fireworks from down in NYC - the Times is > selling WQXR for $45 million. Univision Radio pays $33.5 million for > the 96.3 facility so it can move WCAA there from 105.9; WNYC pays > $11.5 million for the 105.9 facility and the WQXR intellectual > property. WNYC-FM 93.9 will be all news/information, and WQXR on > 105.9 will be noncommercial classical 24/7. > > s > From kvahey@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 17:04:04 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:04:04 -0500 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770907141404o59272fa4ybf198b0f213c1b9a@mail.gmail.com> I have to wonder if CBS suits may have a long term plan depending on how the sports format flies. By using the calls WBZ-FM for sports and the format shows promise you could then see moving local news and talk to FM and all sports to 1030. By doing that an all sports signal on 1030 could compete against WEEI in Providence-Portland-Springfield without local repeaters and news junkies would simply move to FM. CBS has used the clear channel blowtorches at WFAN and WSCR to carry sports so I can not discount them doing the same in Boston. I question why CBS have never moved WIP to 1210 to improve signal problems in Jersey. Who can we expect at BZ-FM? Lobel almost certainly will surface there and with the Bruins connection you can not discount Dale Arnold ( back with Newmie? ) Felger will be in the mix and Mike Adams is in the catbird seat as well. Sean McDonough could surface and maybe a return of Eddie on Sunday at Wyoming Blasting and Zoning :). I would not rule out Jimmy Myers either or Ted Nation. I would expect BZ-FM to land Patriots Monday because they could clear the Revolution which is what the Krafts demand from WEEI to get access to the Pats. Finally there is the little matter of the Red Sox Entercom is getting killed with that deal as one can tell by the amount of open avails on the Sox network. Reduced billings at EEI will not help their boottom line. This is going to be a bloodbath From markwats@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 17:09:48 2009 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:09:48 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com><68C045ABFA6245DC8172890413839F96@PaulPC> <432374.55772.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Maureen Carney wrote: >And WBZ-AM - no more Bruins interruptions for Dan Rea. That's right, no more interruptions for, as the late David Brudnoy said, for "an exciting hockey game". That should help Dan Rea's ratings IMHO plus there will no longer be a need to send the Bruins to Oldies 103.3 on election nights. Mark Watson From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Jul 14 16:13:56 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:13:56 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <804825.83868.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <007301ca04bf$9f20c4f0$c7151bac@whdh.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Garrett Wollman > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:28 PM > To: Maureen Carney > Cc: Boston Radio Group > Subject: Re: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 > > > I bet Disney would be willing to pull ESPN from 890/1400 if it meant a > decent amount of clearance on a station that people will actually > listen to. Willing? I think anxious would better describe it! Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Jul 14 17:12:58 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:12:58 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <432374.55772.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> <68C045ABFA6245DC8172890413839F96@PaulPC> <432374.55772.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19036.62682.895917.44914@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > And WBZ-AM - no more Bruins interruptions for Dan Rea. And no more weird testimonials for advertisers who buy only Bruins and are never heard (except in testimonials) at any other time of day. -GAWollman From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 16:14:07 2009 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5 Message-ID: <516078.23907.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I can see it now WEEI Sports eight-fifty. (850) WBZ-FM Sports (shhh...ninety) EIGHT-FIFTY. (98.50) John B From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Jul 14 16:19:30 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:19:30 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <19036.57221.909278.379807@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> <19036.57221.909278.379807@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <007401ca04c0$65913ed0$c7151bac@whdh.com> Another thought: With 98.5 becoming WBZ-FM, I wonder if the FM-HD feed of WBZ-AM will move to 98.5 from 103.3? It seems like there might be some consistency in doing this. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From scott@fybush.com Tue Jul 14 17:30:16 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:30:16 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <19036.62682.895917.44914@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> <68C045ABFA6245DC8172890413839F96@PaulPC> <432374.55772.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <19036.62682.895917.44914@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4A5CF8E8.7040707@fybush.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> And WBZ-AM - no more Bruins interruptions for Dan Rea. > > And no more weird testimonials for advertisers who buy only Bruins and > are never heard (except in testimonials) at any other time of day. What makes you think they won't be sold combo deals that put them on both AM and FM? s From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 16:31:31 2009 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> Message-ID: <534959.84007.qm@web110506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Tue, 7/14/09, Scott Fybush wrote: > Garrett Wollman wrote: > > < Maureen Carney > said: > > > >> Two - this could be the death knell for ESPN890. > They'll either be > >> foreign-language or birdfeed ESPN 24/7 by the end > of the year. > > > > I bet Disney would be willing to pull ESPN from > 890/1400 if it meant a > > decent amount of clearance on a station that people > will actually > > listen to. > > I don't think ESPN and 98.5 will be a good fit. If 98.5 is > going to work, it will be heavily local, without much room > to clear ESPN's product. We already know it will be local in > mornings, so there goes the flagship Mike & Mike show. > > I think ESPN can survive as a niche on 890, for that > relatively small number of Boston listeners who want > something other than nonstop Sox/Pats/Bs/Cs. National sports > is almost a completely separate format from what WEEI does > and what 98.5 should be doing, and I don't think there's any > other sports market in the country (except maybe NYC or > Philly) that's as parochial about its home teams. I wonder where Fox Sports Radio sits in this. It's a Premier property, but they have linked up with other CBS-owned sports stations in the past (distributing shows from WFAN, for instance) -- and I would imagine FSR will remain a big part of WJFK's lineup. Could WEEI lose the FSR affiliation to the new WBZ-FM? > Meanwhile, watch the fireworks from down in NYC - the Times > is selling WQXR for $45 million. Univision Radio pays $33.5 > million for the 96.3 facility so it can move WCAA there from > 105.9; WNYC pays $11.5 million for the 105.9 facility and > the WQXR intellectual property. WNYC-FM 93.9 will be all > news/information, and WQXR on 105.9 will be noncommercial > classical 24/7. Didn't WNYC-FM sell for something like $80 million back in the 1990s? Different times, I know, but it still seems like a Times Co. firesale. (Maybe it's just coincidence that Carlos Slim also owns a stake in Univision, in addition to loaning NYTCo. a bunch of money.) Does 93.9 // 820 full-time now? From markwats@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 17:32:58 2009 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:32:58 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> <4fc429770907141404o59272fa4ybf198b0f213c1b9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <645A5CE2437F449EB3AADBDE845A180F@Mark> Kevin Vahey wrote: >I have to wonder if CBS suits may have a long term plan depending on > how the sports format flies. > > By using the calls WBZ-FM for sports and the format shows promise you > could then see moving local news and talk to FM and all sports to > 1030. By doing that an all sports signal on 1030 could compete against > WEEI in Providence-Portland-Springfield without local repeaters and > news junkies would simply move to FM. IMHO I don't see that happening right away, if at all. The new all sports WBZ-FM should put a dent in WEEI's ratings. In fact, WCVB had it as the 4th story in the 5 o'clock news, Liz Brunner closed out the report by stating "they'll be going head to head with WEEI, this should be a bloodbath". ( I wonder if Liz read Kevin's post before her report? ) > Who can we expect at BZ-FM? Lobel almost certainly will surface there > and with the Bruins connection you can not discount Dale Arnold ( back > with Newmie? ) Felger will be in the mix and Mike Adams is in the > catbird seat as well. Sean McDonough could surface and maybe a return > of Eddie on Sunday at Wyoming Blasting and Zoning :). I would not rule > out Jimmy Myers either or Ted Nation. I wouldn't be surprised to see any of the names you mentioned surface on BZ-FM. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Andleman brothers' "Phantom Gourmet" radio show ends up on BZ-FM (it's currently on WTKK) since the TV version airs on CBS-owned WSBK. > I would expect BZ-FM to land Patriots Monday because they could clear > the Revolution which is what the Krafts demand from WEEI to get access > to the Pats. Would BZ-FM be willing to air soccer games just to have a Partiots talk show? Obviously they didn't want to air soccer on WBCN, thus WEEI was willing to carry just to have that show. But now that may change. Plus remember on the TV side, CBS managed to grab the "Patriots All Access" show away from WCVB, so I'd expect them to snatch the soccer from 'EEI to have all the "official" Patriots shows on both the radio & TV side. > Finally there is the little matter of the Red Sox Entercom is getting > killed with that deal as one can tell by the amount of open avails on > the Sox network. Reduced billings at EEI will not help their boottom line. As has been discussed here in the past, Entercom is taking a bath in red ink, the tanking economy certainly not helping. CBS will most likely go after the Sox when the contract is up. But will Entercom negotiate a way out of the Sox deal if they keep bleeding red ink? Mark Watson From markwats@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 17:32:58 2009 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:32:58 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> <4fc429770907141404o59272fa4ybf198b0f213c1b9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <645A5CE2437F449EB3AADBDE845A180F@Mark> Kevin Vahey wrote: >I have to wonder if CBS suits may have a long term plan depending on > how the sports format flies. > > By using the calls WBZ-FM for sports and the format shows promise you > could then see moving local news and talk to FM and all sports to > 1030. By doing that an all sports signal on 1030 could compete against > WEEI in Providence-Portland-Springfield without local repeaters and > news junkies would simply move to FM. IMHO I don't see that happening right away, if at all. The new all sports WBZ-FM should put a dent in WEEI's ratings. In fact, WCVB had it as the 4th story in the 5 o'clock news, Liz Brunner closed out the report by stating "they'll be going head to head with WEEI, this should be a bloodbath". ( I wonder if Liz read Kevin's post before her report? ) > Who can we expect at BZ-FM? Lobel almost certainly will surface there > and with the Bruins connection you can not discount Dale Arnold ( back > with Newmie? ) Felger will be in the mix and Mike Adams is in the > catbird seat as well. Sean McDonough could surface and maybe a return > of Eddie on Sunday at Wyoming Blasting and Zoning :). I would not rule > out Jimmy Myers either or Ted Nation. I wouldn't be surprised to see any of the names you mentioned surface on BZ-FM. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Andleman brothers' "Phantom Gourmet" radio show ends up on BZ-FM (it's currently on WTKK) since the TV version airs on CBS-owned WSBK. > I would expect BZ-FM to land Patriots Monday because they could clear > the Revolution which is what the Krafts demand from WEEI to get access > to the Pats. Would BZ-FM be willing to air soccer games just to have a Partiots talk show? Obviously they didn't want to air soccer on WBCN, thus WEEI was willing to carry just to have that show. But now that may change. Plus remember on the TV side, CBS managed to grab the "Patriots All Access" show away from WCVB, so I'd expect them to snatch the soccer from 'EEI to have all the "official" Patriots shows on both the radio & TV side. > Finally there is the little matter of the Red Sox Entercom is getting > killed with that deal as one can tell by the amount of open avails on > the Sox network. Reduced billings at EEI will not help their boottom line. As has been discussed here in the past, Entercom is taking a bath in red ink, the tanking economy certainly not helping. CBS will most likely go after the Sox when the contract is up. But will Entercom negotiate a way out of the Sox deal if they keep bleeding red ink? Mark Watson From markwats@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 17:43:01 2009 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:43:01 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com><20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com><804825.83868.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: Garrett Wollman wrote: > I bet Disney would be willing to pull ESPN from 890/1400 if it meant a > decent amount of clearance on a station that people will actually listen > to. As has been stated by (IIRC) Scott Fybush , there may not be much in the way of birdfeed used on BZ-FM, we know they'll be live in AM drive, and I would guess middays & PM drive, plus most of the weekend, especially during football season will be live & local. If they were to clear any ESPN shows, it would be most likely overnights. I agree with Maureen Carney that this could spell the end of ESPN 890/1400. Could we see the "for sale" sign soon at WAMG & WLLH? Mark Watson From kvahey@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 17:18:24 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:18:24 -0500 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <19036.48335.578340.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> <19036.48335.578340.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4fc429770907141418sd7087c8y9a958648a5acb1c3@mail.gmail.com> So who will apply for the WBCN calls? From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jul 14 17:39:12 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:39:12 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com><19036.57221.909278.379807@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <007401ca04c0$65913ed0$c7151bac@whdh.com> Message-ID: Gotta happen! Can't have the 'BZ calls on analog FM on one frequency and the 'BZ brand on an HD-n subchannel of a station on a different frequency. Too confusing! Of course, it would be even less confusing if the analog FM were a simulcast of the similarly branded analog AM. Isn't that what CBS has with all-news KCBS A/F in San Francisco. And didn't the simulcast give KCBS a sizeable ratings bunp? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: "'Boston Radio'" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:19 PM Subject: RE: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM > Another thought: With 98.5 becoming WBZ-FM, I wonder if the FM-HD > feed of > WBZ-AM will move to 98.5 from 103.3? It seems like there might be > some > consistency in doing this. > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > > From lglavin@mail.com Tue Jul 14 18:02:19 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:02:19 -0500 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM Message-ID: <20090714220219.D09E1BE407E@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Garrett Wollman" >To: "Maureen Carney" >Cc: "Boston Radio Group" >Subject: Re: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM >Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:12:58 -0400 > And WBZ-AM - no more Bruins interruptions for Dan Rea. >And no more weird testimonials for advertisers who buy only Bruins and >are never heard (except in testimonials) at any other time of day. >-GAWollman It's interesting that you bring this up. From time-to-time, I've heard those Gary Lapierre-voiced spots that start out "New England is sold on WBZ", followed by a combination testimonial/advertisement for some business. Now I tune in fairly often to WBZ, yet I had never heard spots for some of these companies. So apparently, their advertising may have run predominantly or solely during Broonz games. Therefore, any sales upticks may have come NOT from WBZ's regular fare but from PBP. -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 18:18:57 2009 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:18:57 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <4fc429770907141418sd7087c8y9a958648a5acb1c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> <19036.48335.578340.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4fc429770907141418sd7087c8y9a958648a5acb1c3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004b01ca04d1$15515c50$3ff414f0$@net> > So who will apply for the WBCN calls? I wouldn't be surprised if Mix keeps the WBCN calls on 104.1. It's not like they use the WBMX calls all that much right now. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Jul 14 18:21:57 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:21:57 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <004b01ca04d1$15515c50$3ff414f0$@net> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> <19036.48335.578340.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4fc429770907141418sd7087c8y9a958648a5acb1c3@mail.gmail.com> <004b01ca04d1$15515c50$3ff414f0$@net> Message-ID: <19037.1285.538087.620362@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: >> So who will apply for the WBCN calls? > I wouldn't be surprised if Mix keeps the WBCN calls on 104.1. It's not like > they use the WBMX calls all that much right now. I would be. The public may not be aware of "Mix"'s call sign, but people in the business are, and it's probably worth the $65 even in these times. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Tue Jul 14 18:25:46 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:25:46 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <004b01ca04d1$15515c50$3ff414f0$@net> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> <19036.48335.578340.730137@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4fc429770907141418sd7087c8y9a958648a5acb1c3@mail.gmail.com> <004b01ca04d1$15515c50$3ff414f0$@net> Message-ID: <4A5D05EA.7000300@fybush.com> Jeff Lehmann wrote: >> So who will apply for the WBCN calls? > > I wouldn't be surprised if Mix keeps the WBCN calls on 104.1. It's not like > they use the WBMX calls all that much right now. Or CBS will park them in some obscure corner of their empire, just as they've done with WNEW and KFRC and WHFS. s From scott@fybush.com Tue Jul 14 18:28:47 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:28:47 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com><19036.57221.909278.379807@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <007401ca04c0$65913ed0$c7151bac@whdh.com> Message-ID: <4A5D069F.6010604@fybush.com> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Gotta happen! Can't have the 'BZ calls on analog FM on one frequency > and the 'BZ brand on an HD-n subchannel of a station on a different > frequency. Too confusing! Of course, it would be even less confusing > if the analog FM were a simulcast of the similarly branded analog AM. > Isn't that what CBS has with all-news KCBS A/F in San Francisco. And > didn't the simulcast give KCBS a sizeable ratings bunp? The "BZ brand" will continue to be closely tied exclusively to 1030, I expect. I don't think you'll hear "WBZ" mentioned much on 98.5 except at the top of the hour. It appears that the branding will be "Sports Hub." The only reason it's getting the WBZ-FM calls is...well, because they can. In a PPM world, it really doesn't matter what the calls are, as long as the green light on the encoder stays on. s From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jul 14 18:45:55 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:45:55 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com><20090714183023.8FFA140108@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com><804825.83868.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com><19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: Only if Disney can negotiate clearances on 'BZ-FM for essentially its full ESPN network spot load. It's those clearances that are keeping the non-Disney-owned ESPN affiliates, such as 890/1400 here and 950 in Philadlphia, alive in major markets. In smaller markets, stations must pay Disney to carry ESPN, but I'd wager that non-company-owned affiliates in major markets that Disney considers important are getting $$$ from the Mouse to carry ESPN. Unless Disney can strike a long-term deal with CBS for clearances on 98.5, Disney might buy 890/1400. In today's market, the price likely woudn't be a huge sum for Disney. $3 million sounds like a reasonable price for both (technically, all three) signals--probably without the land. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Watson" To: "Garrett Wollman" ; "Maureen Carney" Cc: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:43 PM Subject: Re: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 > Could we see the "for sale" sign soon at WAMG & WLLH? > > Mark Watson > From kvahey@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 18:57:45 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:57:45 -0500 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <19036.48400.829986.95249@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> <006001ca04a6$0da99420$c7151bac@whdh.com> <19036.48400.829986.95249@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4fc429770907141557h58a83571lee0bfc9d8fc63ee5@mail.gmail.com> Julie Kahn tells CBS we beat you at rock and we wll beat you at sports too http://bostonradiowatch.blogspot.com/2009/07/official-ruling-on-field-rock-is-dead.html From kvahey@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 17:04:04 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:04:04 -0500 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770907141404o59272fa4ybf198b0f213c1b9a@mail.gmail.com> I have to wonder if CBS suits may have a long term plan depending on how the sports format flies. By using the calls WBZ-FM for sports and the format shows promise you could then see moving local news and talk to FM and all sports to 1030. By doing that an all sports signal on 1030 could compete against WEEI in Providence-Portland-Springfield without local repeaters and news junkies would simply move to FM. CBS has used the clear channel blowtorches at WFAN and WSCR to carry sports so I can not discount them doing the same in Boston. I question why CBS have never moved WIP to 1210 to improve signal problems in Jersey. Who can we expect at BZ-FM? Lobel almost certainly will surface there and with the Bruins connection you can not discount Dale Arnold ( back with Newmie? ) Felger will be in the mix and Mike Adams is in the catbird seat as well. Sean McDonough could surface and maybe a return of Eddie on Sunday at Wyoming Blasting and Zoning :). I would not rule out Jimmy Myers either or Ted Nation. I would expect BZ-FM to land Patriots Monday because they could clear the Revolution which is what the Krafts demand from WEEI to get access to the Pats. Finally there is the little matter of the Red Sox Entercom is getting killed with that deal as one can tell by the amount of open avails on the Sox network. Reduced billings at EEI will not help their boottom line. This is going to be a bloodbath From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Jul 14 20:52:30 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:52:30 -0400 Subject: Antenna/Amplifier for Portable Digital Televisions Message-ID: <007b01ca04e6$88e79cf0$c7151bac@whdh.com> Continuing the discussion about the poor sensitivity of portable DTVs, I can really say how poor the Haier is when last weekend I had trouble picking up WCDC in Hancock, MA, no more than 10 miles from Mt. Greylock. I was camping and was using the magnet mount whip from a DTV stick on the car, but still I had to adjust it several times before I could get the station, and I could get no other stations besides an unidentified analog station weakly on CH 15. Note that at this location, which is about 1650 feet elevation, I had no trouble picking up all the Albany area FM stations on a walkman, but got none of the Albany DTVs on the Haier. Anyway, I did a little research and found that Ramsey Electronics has an antenna/amplifier that covers up to 900 MHz in kit form. Further info can be found here: http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action &key=AA7C. I wrote and asked if they thought this would be good for use with a portable DTV, and they said yes, with the proviso that it does not have type F connectors so adaptors would be necessary. I will be ordering one tonight and will report further on if it really works. For 40 bucks plus postage plus the time to put it together I'm not risking a lot. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Tue Jul 14 21:25:31 2009 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (Doug Drown) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:25:31 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM Message-ID: <74795701F5AB4A2485D827F02617EF3C@DougDrown> >>By using the calls WBZ-FM for sports and the format shows promise you >>could then see moving local news and talk to FM and all sports to 1030. Anything is possible, but for the life of me I can't see this happening. WBZ is not only a Boston, but a New England, institution. Its evolution into a news-and-talk station was very gradual, but through it all it has held its own as the dominant AM station in the region. I know people way up here in the middle of Maine who listen to 'BZ regularly. Seems to me CBS would be foolish to shuffle the format over to FM. I don't know much about WIP's history as a sports station, but Westinghouse/CBS converted what was WMAQ to all-sports WSCR because WMAQ had been in the ratings toilet trying to compete with WBBM as an all-news station (a failed Westinghouse experiment). And WFAN, under Emmis, was all-sports for several years before it moved to 660 and got gobbled up by CBS. I don't think one can do comparisons here with any significant degree of legitimacy. -Doug From kvahey@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 22:01:57 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:01:57 -0500 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770907141901jd3c9a3am2d4ac40c59f6e75f@mail.gmail.com> The reality is in this PPM world CBS couldn't care less that WBZ can be heard in Montreal in the daytime, just inside 495 is what they can base ad rates on I don't want to see 1030 go all sports but it can not be discounted. I do think CBS will use the BZ-FM handle on the sports side as they are going to great pains in saying what the new calls will be But I am confounded in why blow up MIX98 that has been promoted for over a decade. The signals of 104.1 and 98.5 are a wash unless 98.5 does better in Providence which is a major consideration for sports. In my prep school days in RI in Woonsocket 98.5 was huge as WRKO-FM and to be honest over the past few decades I would check out what WHJY or WBRU were up to not WBCN. I suspect 98.5 does cover Providence metro better. Doug says Anything is possible, but for the life of me I can't see this happening. WBZ is not only a Boston, but a New England, institution. Its evolution into a news-and-talk station was very gradual, but through it all it has held its own as the dominant AM station in the region. I know people way up here in the middle of Maine who listen to 'BZ regularly. Seems to me CBS would be foolish to shuffle the format over to FM. I don't know much about WIP's history as a sports station, but Westinghouse/CBS converted what was WMAQ to all-sports WSCR because WMAQ had been in the ratings toilet trying to compete with WBBM as an all-news station (a failed Westinghouse experiment). And WFAN, under Emmis, was all-sports for several years before it moved to 660 and got gobbled up by CBS. I don't think one can do comparisons here with any significant degree of legitimacy. -Doug From kvahey@comcast.net Tue Jul 14 22:01:57 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:01:57 -0500 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770907141901jd3c9a3am2d4ac40c59f6e75f@mail.gmail.com> The reality is in this PPM world CBS couldn't care less that WBZ can be heard in Montreal in the daytime, just inside 495 is what they can base ad rates on I don't want to see 1030 go all sports but it can not be discounted. I do think CBS will use the BZ-FM handle on the sports side as they are going to great pains in saying what the new calls will be But I am confounded in why blow up MIX98 that has been promoted for over a decade. The signals of 104.1 and 98.5 are a wash unless 98.5 does better in Providence which is a major consideration for sports. In my prep school days in RI in Woonsocket 98.5 was huge as WRKO-FM and to be honest over the past few decades I would check out what WHJY or WBRU were up to not WBCN. I suspect 98.5 does cover Providence metro better. Doug says Anything is possible, but for the life of me I can't see this happening. WBZ is not only a Boston, but a New England, institution. Its evolution into a news-and-talk station was very gradual, but through it all it has held its own as the dominant AM station in the region. I know people way up here in the middle of Maine who listen to 'BZ regularly. Seems to me CBS would be foolish to shuffle the format over to FM. I don't know much about WIP's history as a sports station, but Westinghouse/CBS converted what was WMAQ to all-sports WSCR because WMAQ had been in the ratings toilet trying to compete with WBBM as an all-news station (a failed Westinghouse experiment). And WFAN, under Emmis, was all-sports for several years before it moved to 660 and got gobbled up by CBS. I don't think one can do comparisons here with any significant degree of legitimacy. -Doug From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jul 15 01:40:09 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:40:09 -0400 Subject: [Save_progressive_radio_boston] Yet another sports station to debut In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5D6BB9.12404.7C00FB@joe.attorneyross.com> On 14 Jul 2009 at 17:10, jimmissesprogressivetalk wrote: > Apparently CBS is planning to create an all sports station on the 98.5 > Mhz frequency that is now WBMX, and to move WBMX to 104.1 replacing > WBCN. The all sports station will become WBZ-FM and will benefit from > carrying the Patriots and Bruins games. Hmm. The station that was originally WNAC-FM becomes WBZ-FM. Interesting. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jul 15 01:40:09 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:40:09 -0400 Subject: WATD signal In-Reply-To: <2F1805CC79384327B34A63C5FADAC274@SatU205S5044> References: <4A5C0ED8.28589.79F70F@joe.attorneyross.com>, <2F1805CC79384327B34A63C5FADAC274@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4A5D6BB9.14871.7C0354@joe.attorneyross.com> On 14 Jul 2009 at 7:15, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > But this report was probably a case of tropospheric ducting, AKA > "trops," a condition common in coastal areas at this time of year, > especially in humid weather. Well, it sure was humid weather Saturday night. It was pouring rain. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jul 15 01:40:10 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:40:10 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A5D6BBA.23697.7C053F@joe.attorneyross.com> On 14 Jul 2009 at 11:39, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > From Radio Info.com: > > **** and in the case of Boston, that means the demise of Boston rocker > WBCN at 104.1. CBS is going to transfer its hot AC "Mix" WBMX from > 98.5 to 104.1. On August 13, the new "Sports Hub" will debut on 98.5, > featuring play-by-play from the NFL Patriots and NHL Boston Bruins, > plus the current WBCN morning show of Toucher & Rich. New call letters > for 98.5 - WBZ-FM. That station will directly challenge Boston's > entrenched all-sports station, Entercom's WEEI at 850. In Washington, > CBS confirms the much-rumored conversion of talker WJFK (106.7) to > sports as "The Fan", as of July 20. The lineup will include the NBA > Washington Wizards, plus - as rumored in T-R-I - the Westwood One NFL > package. Details at Radio-Info.com - ****** So the original WNAC-FM becomes WBZ-FM. Interesting. It's a good move, I suppose, in launching a new sports station, to use the WBZ call letters. The recognition of heritage call letters has its ups and downs, but this time the WBZ image might be helpful. I wonder how long it will be before someone revives the WBCN call letters. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jul 15 01:40:09 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:40:09 -0400 Subject: [BrooklineTMMA] Re: LOCAL OPTION TAXES In-Reply-To: <32197F2A107045A1842C2FD04C851D8F@lisaed> References: <32197F2A107045A1842C2FD04C851D8F@lisaed> Message-ID: <4A5D6BB9.23790.7C043A@joe.attorneyross.com> On 14 Jul 2009 at 15:38, lisa liss wrote: > OK, forget about the colleges. But can the August TM be held in the > Lincoln School? Ed Richmond What's the difference? Opening one school or opening another is still opening a school in the summer. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jul 15 01:40:10 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:40:10 -0400 Subject: Breaking News: 98.5 becomes All Sports WBZ-FM In-Reply-To: References: <8bce0fe80907140939x5fd2cbcax1dbba50bca972b21@mail.gmail.com>, Message-ID: <4A5D6BBA.21941.7C0810@joe.attorneyross.com> On 14 Jul 2009 at 17:39, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Gotta happen! Can't have the 'BZ calls on analog FM on one frequency > and the 'BZ brand on an HD-n subchannel of a station on a different > frequency. Too confusing! Of course, it would be even less confusing > if the analog FM were a simulcast of the similarly branded analog AM. > Isn't that what CBS has with all-news KCBS A/F in San Francisco. And > didn't the simulcast give KCBS a sizeable ratings bunp? What is the rationale for an AM-FM simulcast in the same market nowadays? I know why they did it in the old days, when there were few FM listeners, but with essentially all listeners having both AM and FM, why do this today? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jul 15 01:40:10 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:40:10 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> Message-ID: <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> On 14 Jul 2009 at 15:41, Scott Fybush wrote: > Meanwhile, watch the fireworks from down in NYC - the Times is selling > WQXR for $45 million. Univision Radio pays $33.5 million for the 96.3 > facility so it can move WCAA there from 105.9; WNYC pays $11.5 million > for the 105.9 facility and the WQXR intellectual property. WNYC-FM > 93.9 will be all news/information, and WQXR on 105.9 will be > noncommercial classical 24/7. Wow! Does New York still have another classical station now or is WQXR the last one? I know WNCN finally changed to something else a number of years ago. I thought there was one more classical station in NYC, but I can't remember what it was. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Jul 15 07:22:16 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:22:16 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: I think you mean WNYC-FM 93.9, which is going all talk. WNYC (AM) 820 is already all talk. I suspect that WNYC A/F will simulcast because I doubt whether NPR/APM produce enough talk content to allow separate programming in more than a few dayparts. Note that WBUR repeats OnPoint and Fresh Air every weeknight (except for Friday, when Radio Boston pre-empts the 1:00PM umm, airing of Fresh Air). Of course, there may be other Public Radio content sources, such as various affiliated stations. I've heard, for example, that WHYY produces a daily two-hour talk show that WBUR, at least, does not carry. The economics of WNYC's spending $11.5 million for WQXR's intellectual property elude me, though. Like most public stations, WNYC is always pleading poverty. Given that 93.9 was already mostly classical, why does NYPR think that, by acquiring WQXR's intellectual property, moving it to a signal that has one tenth the power of that of its former home, and converting the full B 93.9 to the news/talk format that was already airing full-time on AM 820, it can get gifts of even the same amount as it used to get? Even though 93.9 is a full-market signal and 820 is not (at night, anyway), it would seem that the only way NYPR might break even on this move would be to operate 105.9 as a commercial station, as Chicago Pulic Radio does with classical WFMT. But WFMT has a big signal and 105.9 has a puny signal. Moreover, as Scott has pointed out, under FCC rules, for 105.9 to be permitted to use translators to fill in the significant gaps in its coverage, 105.9 must be noncommercial. Maybe NYPR believes that it can recoup the cost of the WQXR IP by operating 105.9 as a commercial station and that streaming on the Web will allow it to fill 105.9's coverage gaps without translators. Stay tuned; this is a fascinating and evolving story! ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Scott Fybush" Cc: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:40 AM Subject: Re: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 > On 14 Jul 2009 at 15:41, Scott Fybush wrote: > >> Meanwhile, watch the fireworks from down in NYC - the Times is >> selling >> WQXR for $45 million. Univision Radio pays $33.5 million for the >> 96.3 >> facility so it can move WCAA there from 105.9; WNYC pays $11.5 >> million >> for the 105.9 facility and the WQXR intellectual property. WNYC-FM >> 93.9 will be all news/information, and WQXR on 105.9 will be >> noncommercial classical 24/7. > > Wow! Does New York still have another classical station now or is > WQXR the last one? I know WNCN finally changed to something else a > number of years ago. I thought there was one more classical station > in NYC, but I can't remember what it was. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Jul 15 08:16:39 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:16:39 -0400 Subject: WNYC/WQXR In-Reply-To: References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <19037.51367.848981.593419@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I think you mean WNYC-FM 93.9, which is going all talk. WNYC (AM) 820 > is already all talk. I suspect that WNYC A/F will simulcast because I > doubt whether NPR/APM produce enough talk content to allow separate > programming in more than a few dayparts. WNYC-FM is already mostly talk, although the AM and the FM don't simulcast most of the time. (Have a look at their schedules some time.) There is enough public-radio programming out there to run at least three stations. I actually wouldn't be surprised if they sold 820 to someone, but as New York stations go, it's not worth very much. I wonder if there's some money going by a back channel from the Sulzbergers to WNYC to help fund the purchase? Quoting from the press release: WNYC will operate WQXR-FM on 105.9 FM and continue to serve the vast majority of its current audience as a listener-supported public station dedicated to classical music. [...] Ms. Walker explained as well that WNYC has begun a fundraising effort, The Campaign to Preserve Classical Music Radio in New York City, to help make the acquisition possible. The press release seems to answer the question about how this will work: NYTCo is swapping 96.3 for 105.9 plus cash. They will then, probably at a later date, sell 105.9 to WNYC, once WNYC has lined up the funding. (Which will probably involve some borrowing, so this may be a bellwether for public-radio debt in the market after the crash.) -GAWollman From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 09:14:59 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <786214.36878.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Here's some of the 1st fallout - Mike Felger is out as host of the Baseball Show on Saturday morning, as of this week. The simulcast will continue on CSN and WEEI. New host to be announced shortly - possibly Greg Dickerson. From scott@fybush.com Wed Jul 15 10:28:37 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:28:37 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <4A5DE795.2060308@fybush.com> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I think you mean WNYC-FM 93.9, which is going all talk. WNYC (AM) 820 > is already all talk. I suspect that WNYC A/F will simulcast because I > doubt whether NPR/APM produce enough talk content to allow separate > programming in more than a few dayparts. Note that WBUR repeats > OnPoint and Fresh Air every weeknight (except for Friday, when Radio > Boston pre-empts the 1:00PM umm, airing of Fresh Air). Of course, > there may be other Public Radio content sources, such as various > affiliated stations. I've heard, for example, that WHYY produces a > daily two-hour talk show that WBUR, at least, does not carry. As Garrett has already noted, 820/93.9 already split their simulcast during much of the talk portion of their day. There's plenty of content out there to be had - WNYC itself produces 4 hours of local talk each weekday with Leonard Lopate and Brian Lehrer, as well as the 2-hour "Takeaway" morning show in collaboration with WGBH and the Beeb. And even at that, WNYC doesn't currently carry some of the more prominent offerings, such as NPR's "Talk of the Nation" and "Diane Rehm." Rehm now airs on WNYE-FM, and TotN isn't heard anywhere in NYC. The WHYY show, "Radio Times," is a local show that's not offered for syndication, as far as I'm aware. > The economics of WNYC's spending $11.5 million for WQXR's intellectual > property elude me, though. Like most public stations, WNYC is always > pleading poverty. Given that 93.9 was already mostly classical, why > does NYPR think that, by acquiring WQXR's intellectual property, > moving it to a signal that has one tenth the power of that of its > former home, and converting the full B 93.9 to the news/talk format > that was already airing full-time on AM 820, it can get gifts of even > the same amount as it used to get? Even though 93.9 is a full-market > signal and 820 is not (at night, anyway), it would seem that the only > way NYPR might break even on this move would be to operate 105.9 as a > commercial station, as Chicago Pulic Radio does with classical WFMT. > But WFMT has a big signal and 105.9 has a puny signal. Moreover, as > Scott has pointed out, under FCC rules, for 105.9 to be permitted to > use translators to fill in the significant gaps in its coverage, 105.9 > must be noncommercial. Maybe NYPR believes that it can recoup the cost > of the WQXR IP by operating 105.9 as a commercial station and that > streaming on the Web will allow it to fill 105.9's coverage gaps > without translators. Stay tuned; this is a fascinating and evolving > story! I think it's more fair to say that WNYC is paying $11.5 million for the 105.9 facility; the intellectual property is coming along for the ride (and if NYTCo is smart, they'll find a way to make the IP a donation to WNYC and end up with a nice tax writeoff as a result.) As for the signal, "puny" is relative. 105.9 is still a B1 from Empire. Care to take a guess at how much population is in the 105.9 protected contour, versus how much in the protected contour of the full Empire class B signals such as 96.3? Ready? 16.8 million people in the full B contours, 13.2 million in 105.9's contour. (That's predicted contour; the real-world short-spacing issue with 106.1 on Long Island might take another 800,000 off that number.) Even so, I don't think the math is as bleak as Dan would make it out to be. $11.5 million for the 105.9 signal is a tremendous bargain compared to the sale prices of big-city FMs over the last decade or two. Don't forget that Heftel (ancestor of today's Univision Radio) paid a whopping $115 million for 105.9 back in 1998. It would be irresponsible for WNYC not to take advantage of a bargain like that. To put it in context, WNYC successfully raised $20 million over six years to acquire the 820/93.9 licenses from the city of New York a decade ago, and it raised $63 million between 2006-2009 to move out of the Municipal Building and into new digs on Varick Street. Raising $15 million (WNYC's goal to cover both acquisition and operational costs) to provide fulltime FM service for both the news/talk and classical audiences shouldn't be all that hard to do. To bring this back to Boston, incidentally, one wonders if either WGBH or WBUR are looking at doing a similar deal for what's left of WCRB, which would probably sell today for far, far less than Nassau paid for it. s From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Jul 15 11:30:03 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:30:03 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> <4A5DE795.2060308@fybush.com> Message-ID: <003764D46866401181993A73C57C1641@SatU205S5044> Well, if Entercom were willing to take the same kind of 90% hit on 97.7 that Heftel and its successors took on the Newark/NYC 105.9, WGBH or WBUR could get WKAF and the WCRB intellectual property for only $3 million. It would be interesting to hear how the population numbers for 97.7 compare with those for any of the full Bs on the Pru. Scott almost certainly knows the answer already, but I would not be surprised to learn that WKAF's 60 dBu contour covered 70% of the population within (say) WBCN's 60 dBu. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:28 AM Subject: Re: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 > Dan.Strassberg wrote: >> I think you mean WNYC-FM 93.9, which is going all talk. WNYC (AM) >> 820 >> is already all talk. I suspect that WNYC A/F will simulcast because >> I >> doubt whether NPR/APM produce enough talk content to allow separate >> programming in more than a few dayparts. Note that WBUR repeats >> OnPoint and Fresh Air every weeknight (except for Friday, when >> Radio >> Boston pre-empts the 1:00PM umm, airing of Fresh Air). Of course, >> there may be other Public Radio content sources, such as various >> affiliated stations. I've heard, for example, that WHYY produces a >> daily two-hour talk show that WBUR, at least, does not carry. > > As Garrett has already noted, 820/93.9 already split their simulcast > during much of the talk portion of their day. > > There's plenty of content out there to be had - WNYC itself produces > 4 hours of local talk each weekday with Leonard Lopate and Brian > Lehrer, as well as the 2-hour "Takeaway" morning show in > collaboration with WGBH and the Beeb. And even at that, WNYC doesn't > currently carry some of the more prominent offerings, such as NPR's > "Talk of the Nation" and "Diane Rehm." Rehm now airs on WNYE-FM, and > TotN isn't heard anywhere in NYC. > > The WHYY show, "Radio Times," is a local show that's not offered for > syndication, as far as I'm aware. > >> The economics of WNYC's spending $11.5 million for WQXR's >> intellectual >> property elude me, though. Like most public stations, WNYC is >> always >> pleading poverty. Given that 93.9 was already mostly classical, why >> does NYPR think that, by acquiring WQXR's intellectual property, >> moving it to a signal that has one tenth the power of that of its >> former home, and converting the full B 93.9 to the news/talk format >> that was already airing full-time on AM 820, it can get gifts of >> even >> the same amount as it used to get? Even though 93.9 is a >> full-market >> signal and 820 is not (at night, anyway), it would seem that the >> only >> way NYPR might break even on this move would be to operate 105.9 as >> a >> commercial station, as Chicago Pulic Radio does with classical >> WFMT. >> But WFMT has a big signal and 105.9 has a puny signal. Moreover, as >> Scott has pointed out, under FCC rules, for 105.9 to be permitted >> to >> use translators to fill in the significant gaps in its coverage, >> 105.9 >> must be noncommercial. Maybe NYPR believes that it can recoup the >> cost >> of the WQXR IP by operating 105.9 as a commercial station and that >> streaming on the Web will allow it to fill 105.9's coverage gaps >> without translators. Stay tuned; this is a fascinating and evolving >> story! > > I think it's more fair to say that WNYC is paying $11.5 million for > the 105.9 facility; the intellectual property is coming along for > the ride (and if NYTCo is smart, they'll find a way to make the IP a > donation to WNYC and end up with a nice tax writeoff as a result.) > > As for the signal, "puny" is relative. 105.9 is still a B1 from > Empire. Care to take a guess at how much population is in the 105.9 > protected contour, versus how much in the protected contour of the > full Empire class B signals such as 96.3? > > Ready? > > 16.8 million people in the full B contours, 13.2 million in 105.9's > contour. (That's predicted contour; the real-world short-spacing > issue with 106.1 on Long Island might take another 800,000 off that > number.) > > Even so, I don't think the math is as bleak as Dan would make it out > to be. $11.5 million for the 105.9 signal is a tremendous bargain > compared to the sale prices of big-city FMs over the last decade or > two. Don't forget that Heftel (ancestor of today's Univision Radio) > paid a whopping $115 million for 105.9 back in 1998. It would be > irresponsible for WNYC not to take advantage of a bargain like that. > > To put it in context, WNYC successfully raised $20 million over six > years to acquire the 820/93.9 licenses from the city of New York a > decade ago, and it raised $63 million between 2006-2009 to move out > of the Municipal Building and into new digs on Varick Street. > Raising $15 million (WNYC's goal to cover both acquisition and > operational costs) to provide fulltime FM service for both the > news/talk and classical audiences shouldn't be all that hard to do. > > To bring this back to Boston, incidentally, one wonders if either > WGBH or WBUR are looking at doing a similar deal for what's left of > WCRB, which would probably sell today for far, far less than Nassau > paid for it. > > s From scott@fybush.com Wed Jul 15 11:37:08 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:37:08 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <003764D46866401181993A73C57C1641@SatU205S5044> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> <4A5DE795.2060308@fybush.com> <003764D46866401181993A73C57C1641@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4A5DF7A4.5080907@fybush.com> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Well, if Entercom were willing to take the same kind of 90% hit on > 97.7 that Heftel and its successors took on the Newark/NYC 105.9, WGBH > or WBUR could get WKAF and the WCRB intellectual property for only $3 > million. It would be interesting to hear how the population numbers > for 97.7 compare with those for any of the full Bs on the Pru. Scott > almost certainly knows the answer already, but I would not be > surprised to learn that WKAF's 60 dBu contour covered 70% of the > population within (say) WBCN's 60 dBu. At a guess, I'd say the number is probably 65% or less. The difference between an A and a B is much more dramatic than that between a B1 and a B - and it's exacerbated by WKAF's non-central transmitter site. And with WOKQ to contend with, as well as the 97.7 in southwest NH, there's really no wiggle room to move WKAF anywhere much more useful. WBCN's 60 covers nearly everything within 495. WKAF's doesn't even get everything within 128. s From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Jul 15 13:02:42 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:02:42 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> <4A5DE795.2060308@fybush.com> <003764D46866401181993A73C57C1641@SatU205S5044> <4A5DF7A4.5080907@fybush.com> Message-ID: <1524626A6DA641CB9829D3F7D9403751@SatU205S5044> But WCAA (those are the 105.9 calls, right?) is not a full B1. IIRC, a full B1 has ERP equivalent to 25 kW @ 100m. WCAA (610W @ 410m) is equivalent to ~10 kW @ 100m. Since a full A is equivalent to 6 kW @ 100m, WCAA, though technically a B1 and with more power than a full A, is still closer to a full A than to a full B1. OTOH, I guess that WKAF isn't quite a full A, either. By my calculations, it's equivalent to about 5 kW @ 100m, but that would make it closer to a full A than WCAA is to a full B1. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:37 AM Subject: Re: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 > At a guess, I'd say the number is probably 65% or less. The > difference between an A and a B is much more dramatic than that > between a B1 and a B From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Jul 15 14:22:50 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:22:50 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <002101ca0579$4b294ce0$c4141bac@whdh.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:22 AM > To: A. Joseph Ross; Scott Fybush > Cc: Boston Radio Group > Subject: Re: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 > > > > The economics of WNYC's spending $11.5 million for WQXR's intellectual > property elude me, though. Like most public stations, WNYC is always > pleading poverty. Given that 93.9 was already mostly classical, why > does NYPR think that, by acquiring WQXR's intellectual property, > moving it to a signal that has one tenth the power of that of its > former home, How about WQXR also being on WNYC HD-2? That might work to fill in some of the coverage, especially if the HD power boost goes through. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed Jul 15 16:14:56 2009 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:14:56 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <1524626A6DA641CB9829D3F7D9403751@SatU205S5044> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> <4A5DE795.2060308@fybush.com> <003764D46866401181993A73C57C1641@SatU205S5044> <4A5DF7A4.5080907@fybush.com> <1524626A6DA641CB9829D3F7D9403751@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <000b01ca0588$ec8dfd60$c5a9f820$@com> Has anyone thought of putting WBCN as it lives now on one of the HD-2 channels? Pro Cinema - Pro Audio - Pro & Consumer AV Equipment & Supplies Brian Vita President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 brian_vita@cssinc.com AIM: btvita tel: fax: 978-538-7575 978-538-7550 From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 18:05:04 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <000b01ca0588$ec8dfd60$c5a9f820$@com> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> <4A5DE795.2060308@fybush.com> <003764D46866401181993A73C57C1641@SatU205S5044> <4A5DF7A4.5080907@fybush.com> <1524626A6DA641CB9829D3F7D9403751@SatU205S5044> <000b01ca0588$ec8dfd60$c5a9f820$@com> Message-ID: <716251.94309.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> It is, but without jocks, on 98.5 HD-2. From rbello@belloassoc.com Wed Jul 15 17:20:11 2009 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:20:11 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <000b01ca0588$ec8dfd60$c5a9f820$@com> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> <4A5DE795.2060308@fybush.com> <003764D46866401181993A73C57C1641@SatU205S5044> <4A5DF7A4.5080907@fybush.com> <1524626A6DA641CB9829D3F7D9403751@SatU205S5044> <000b01ca0588$ec8dfd60$c5a9f820$@com> Message-ID: <90ec04420907151420i1f83a0baq91a527660fdb3804@mail.gmail.com> CBS is putting it on 98.5 HD-2 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Brian Vita wrote: > Has anyone thought of putting WBCN as it lives now on one of the HD-2 > channels? > > > > > Pro Cinema - Pro Audio - Pro & Consumer AV Equipment & Supplies > > > Brian Vita > President > Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. > 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 > Peabody, MA 01960-5691 > brian_vita@cssinc.com > AIM: btvita > tel: > fax: > 978-538-7575 > 978-538-7550 > > > From paul@derrynh.net Wed Jul 15 20:25:43 2009 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:25:43 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <000b01ca0588$ec8dfd60$c5a9f820$@com> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> <4A5DE795.2060308@fybush.com> <003764D46866401181993A73C57C1641@SatU205S5044> <4A5DF7A4.5080907@fybush.com><1524626A6DA641CB9829D3F7D9403751@SatU205S5044> <000b01ca0588$ec8dfd60$c5a9f820$@com> Message-ID: According to the press reports, WBCN will live on WBZ-FM HD2 at 98.5. (Though it makes more sense to put on 104.1 as an HD2 or HD3) -Paul Hopfgarten -Derry NH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vita" To: "'Dan.Strassberg'" ; "'Scott Fybush'" Cc: "'Boston Radio Group'" Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:14 PM Subject: RE: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 > Has anyone thought of putting WBCN as it lives now on one of the HD-2 > channels? > > > > > Pro Cinema - Pro Audio - Pro & Consumer AV Equipment & Supplies > > > Brian Vita > President > Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. > 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 > Peabody, MA 01960-5691 > brian_vita@cssinc.com > AIM: btvita > tel: > fax: > 978-538-7575 > 978-538-7550 > > > > > > > From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed Jul 15 23:23:39 2009 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:23:39 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> <4A5DE795.2060308@fybush.com> <003764D46866401181993A73C57C1641@SatU205S5044> <4A5DF7A4.5080907@fybush.com><1524626A6DA641CB9829D3F7D9403751@SatU205S5044> <000b01ca0588$ec8dfd60$c5a9f820$@com> Message-ID: <4A5E9D3B.10907@ttlc.net> According to the Mix98.5 Website, the new moniker will be Mix104. They're running a poll asking listeners if they know that Mix104 will have a stronger signal. Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > According to the press reports, WBCN will live on WBZ-FM HD2 at 98.5. > (Though it makes more sense to put on 104.1 as an HD2 or HD3) From rac@gabrielmass.com Wed Jul 15 23:28:26 2009 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:28:26 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 In-Reply-To: <4A5E9D3B.10907@ttlc.net> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <19036.56396.912975.291703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <4A5CDF65.4030009@fybush.com> <4A5D6BBA.31304.7C0625@joe.attorneyross.com> <4A5DE795.2060308@fybush.com> <003764D46866401181993A73C57C1641@SatU205S5044> <4A5DF7A4.5080907@fybush.com><1524626A6DA641CB9829D3F7D9403751@SatU205S5044> <000b01ca0588$ec8dfd60$c5a9f820$@com> <4A5E9D3B.10907@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <4A5E9E5A.4060506@gabrielmass.com> Roger Kirk wrote: > According to the Mix98.5 Website, the new moniker will be Mix104. > > They're running a poll asking listeners if they know that Mix104 will > have a stronger signal. Sounds like "push polling" to me! --RC From kvahey@comcast.net Thu Jul 16 21:38:18 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:38:18 -0500 Subject: erasing videotapes hits a new level Message-ID: <4fc429770907161838x6cd76580ia7e65d8494af1a69@mail.gmail.com> We radio-TV historians have lamented that so much of broadcasting history was lost. While CBS kept tapes of game shows just in case another scandal happened, NBC Brooklyn erased 99 percent of shows before 1971 because of the cost of two inch quad tape But today we learn the most famous broadcast of the 20th Century was erased by NASA. The master recordings of the first moonwalk http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_8559/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=E4Sw34nW From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jul 16 23:37:56 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:37:56 -0400 Subject: [BrooklineTMMA] Re: LOCAL OPTION TAXES In-Reply-To: <4A5D6BB9.23790.7C043A@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <32197F2A107045A1842C2FD04C851D8F@lisaed>, <4A5D6BB9.23790.7C043A@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <4A5FF214.2369.13D608C@joe.attorneyross.com> On 15 Jul 2009 at 1:40, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 14 Jul 2009 at 15:38, lisa liss wrote: > > > OK, forget about the colleges. But can the August TM be held in the > > Lincoln School? Ed Richmond > > What's the difference? Opening one school or opening another is still > opening a school in the summer. Oops! This was supposed to go to a different list. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@comcast.net Fri Jul 17 21:15:26 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:15:26 -0500 Subject: RIP Walter Cronkite Message-ID: <4fc429770907171815i4fcf6ed3s474de60f78311c53@mail.gmail.com> So ironic that Walter passes on the 40th anniversary of the first moon landing For many of us in Boston it was Jack Hynes at 6 and Walter at 6:30..that is how we got our TV news From n1qgs@yahoo.com Fri Jul 17 22:11:58 2009 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Walter Cronkike passes Message-ID: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> According to yahoo, Walter Cronkike passes http://www.yahoo.com/s/1102137 From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Jul 18 00:13:15 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:13:15 -0400 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes In-Reply-To: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> At 10:11 PM 7/17/2009, John Bolduc wrote: >According to yahoo, Walter Cronkike passes And former CNN anchor Aaron Brown wrote a wonderful tribute to Walter, the man who was his mentor: We All Followed His Script by Aaron Brown I was inspired to get into broadcast journalism by Walter Cronkite. He taught me once I was there. And now I?m proud to share his lessons and carry his name forward to the next generation. In an odd way Walter Cronkite bookends my professional life. Lots of people knew him far better: his colleagues at CBS all those years, his family and his small staff in his later years. But Walter-? as he insisted that I call him-? was there for me at the beginning of my professional life, there for me on the most important day, and still there now in the students I teach. read the entire piece here: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-17/we-all-followed-his-script/full/ From scott@fybush.com Sat Jul 18 00:29:56 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:29:56 -0400 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes In-Reply-To: <20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4A614FC4.6000604@fybush.com> Donna Halper wrote: > At 10:11 PM 7/17/2009, John Bolduc wrote: > >> According to yahoo, Walter Cronkike passes > > And former CNN anchor Aaron Brown wrote a wonderful tribute to Walter, > the man who was his mentor: That makes at least three stories this evening about the thoughtful way Walter Cronkite encouraged and inspired those around him, no matter how young or inexperienced. Robert Feder, late of the Chicago Sun-Times, has a column up tonight recounting the friendship that began when he wrote to Cronkite at the age of 14: http://www.suntimes.com/news/obituaries/1672043,remembering-walter-cronkite-feder-071709.article And a few years later, Cronkite got a letter from some six-year-old kid in upstate New York, and instead of sending a form response, he...well, I'm still blown away, three decades later, by what happened next: http://www.fybush.com/NERW/2009/090713/nerw.html They don't make 'em like that anymore. s From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Jul 18 02:59:19 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:59:19 -0500 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes In-Reply-To: <20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com> I have one Walter Cronkite story and it goes back to 1968 at WMUR of all places. It was the night before and after the 1968 New Hampshire primary and CBS rented out the back studio at 1819 Elm Street ( OK it was the garage ) They brought in the WHDH-TV remote truck and most importantly tied into ATT long lines. They built a basic set with the CBS News logo and lit it perfectly. It was cramped and the 3 RCA TK-43's took up way too much space. WMUR was using the main studio for local coverage and somehow I wound up in back since I knew how to use a zoom lens. Channel 9 was still IBEW 1228 then so it wasn't an issue. It was supposed to be a simple 60 minute recap and off at 11 PM but all hell broke loose. Sen Eugene McCarthy had scored over 40 percent of the vote and it showed President Johnson was in political trouble. It was just incredible watching Walter on the phone with New York and trying to make sense of what happened. You also had staffers coming and going from the parking lot where the makeshift news room was in a trailer as there was no room in the garage itself. Then at about 9:50 PM who walks into the back garage by himself looking to be interviewed was one Richard Nixon who had soundly defeated Nelson Rockefeller on the GOP side. Nixon had been on WMUR and just wandered in with no entourage at all and it was surreal and here I am all of 18 standing in the middle of this. Walter just looked at Nixon and shook his head but knew he had to accommodate him and Nixon sat down and shook off the CBS makeup person and on the air we go. Walter was a magician especially when you consider what conditions he was working under and I am sure viewers at home saw nothing unusual. Compounding things was that we lost the off air monitor which was tuned to WHDH-TV so Walter could not see reporters like George Herman back in DC. Well finally 11 PM arrives and we are clear but Walter is fuming as the man of the hour was 10 miles away at the Sheraton-Wayfarer. I should add NBC was at the Sheraton-Wayfarer in Bedford and ABC at the Howard Johnson's and both had McCarthy on. So NY decided back on the air we go at 11:30. McCarthy finally arrived at around 12:20 AM but what saved the show was RFK arriving at the DC studio and Walter interviewed him still without a monitor. Finally we clear for the night and Walter thanks everyone. People are making a mad dash to go and unwind somewhere and there was no breakdown as CBS still had the morning news in a few hours. Walter went into the Uncle Gus booth to make some phone calls as 9 was already off air for the night and I starting talking to the security guard that WHDH provided to babysit the remote truck. Walter comes up to us and asks "Can you call me a cab, they forgot me." I offer him a ride to the Sheraton and he happily accepted and now I am embarrassed that I have Walter Cronkite in my gold 65 Mustang. So as I head towards the old Amoskeag Bridge to cross the river by where WKBR was he says "is there anyplace to eat in this town this time of night?" I replied that there were two places I knew of - The Red Arrow Diner or The Dog House on South Willow and he said " I would love a hot dog" 20 minutes later I am sharing a booth with The Most Trusted Man in America eating hot dogs and french fries. People are staring but saying - naww it can't be him He grilled me for about an hour on just about everything. I told him I was worried about being drafted but I had to work for awhile as my Dad had just died and I needed to help my Mom and save up for school. I told him I didn't understand why we were in Vietnam and yet we would do nothing to North Korea which had just a few weeks before captured a Navy boat (USS?Pueblo) which enraged William Loeb who owned the Union-Leader. I told him I wanted RFK to be president and the Nixon I saw in the garage scared me and he laughed at that. We left and I took him back to Bedford. As he got out he gave me $100 to "help your Mom" and said please keep in touch. I regret that I did not but I just didn't want to bother him. I would meet him 2 more times, once on the Vineyard and at a record signing at Strawberries on Memorial Drive and he remembered me. After reading Robert Feder I am kicking myself but I will always have that March night 41 years ago. From wollman@bimajority.org Sat Jul 18 07:40:36 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:40:36 -0400 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes In-Reply-To: <4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com> References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <19041.46260.380844.370101@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> According to the announcement I just saw on WIVB, CBS is blowing out tomorrow's "60 Minutes" rerun to do a Cronkite memories special. -GAWollman (writing to you, just this once, from Cheektowaga, N.Y.) From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Sat Jul 18 13:38:24 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:38:24 -0400 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com><20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <753B86BC1AA84F17B71081ECF2B70A6F@teddesktop> Kevin, that's a wonderful story. Thanks for sharing it with all of us. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Donna Halper" Cc: Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 2:59 AM Subject: Re: Walter Cronkite passes I have one Walter Cronkite story and it goes back to 1968 at WMUR of all places. It was the night before and after the 1968 New Hampshire primary and CBS rented out the back studio at 1819 Elm Street ( OK it was the garage ) They brought in the WHDH-TV remote truck and most importantly tied into ATT long lines. They built a basic set with the CBS News logo and lit it perfectly. It was cramped and the 3 RCA TK-43's took up way too much space. WMUR was using the main studio for local coverage and somehow I wound up in back since I knew how to use a zoom lens. Channel 9 was still IBEW 1228 then so it wasn't an issue. It was supposed to be a simple 60 minute recap and off at 11 PM but all hell broke loose. Sen Eugene McCarthy had scored over 40 percent of the vote and it showed President Johnson was in political trouble. It was just incredible watching Walter on the phone with New York and trying to make sense of what happened. You also had staffers coming and going from the parking lot where the makeshift news room was in a trailer as there was no room in the garage itself. Then at about 9:50 PM who walks into the back garage by himself looking to be interviewed was one Richard Nixon who had soundly defeated Nelson Rockefeller on the GOP side. Nixon had been on WMUR and just wandered in with no entourage at all and it was surreal and here I am all of 18 standing in the middle of this. Walter just looked at Nixon and shook his head but knew he had to accommodate him and Nixon sat down and shook off the CBS makeup person and on the air we go. Walter was a magician especially when you consider what conditions he was working under and I am sure viewers at home saw nothing unusual. Compounding things was that we lost the off air monitor which was tuned to WHDH-TV so Walter could not see reporters like George Herman back in DC. Well finally 11 PM arrives and we are clear but Walter is fuming as the man of the hour was 10 miles away at the Sheraton-Wayfarer. I should add NBC was at the Sheraton-Wayfarer in Bedford and ABC at the Howard Johnson's and both had McCarthy on. So NY decided back on the air we go at 11:30. McCarthy finally arrived at around 12:20 AM but what saved the show was RFK arriving at the DC studio and Walter interviewed him still without a monitor. Finally we clear for the night and Walter thanks everyone. People are making a mad dash to go and unwind somewhere and there was no breakdown as CBS still had the morning news in a few hours. Walter went into the Uncle Gus booth to make some phone calls as 9 was already off air for the night and I starting talking to the security guard that WHDH provided to babysit the remote truck. Walter comes up to us and asks "Can you call me a cab, they forgot me." I offer him a ride to the Sheraton and he happily accepted and now I am embarrassed that I have Walter Cronkite in my gold 65 Mustang. So as I head towards the old Amoskeag Bridge to cross the river by where WKBR was he says "is there anyplace to eat in this town this time of night?" I replied that there were two places I knew of - The Red Arrow Diner or The Dog House on South Willow and he said " I would love a hot dog" 20 minutes later I am sharing a booth with The Most Trusted Man in America eating hot dogs and french fries. People are staring but saying - naww it can't be him He grilled me for about an hour on just about everything. I told him I was worried about being drafted but I had to work for awhile as my Dad had just died and I needed to help my Mom and save up for school. I told him I didn't understand why we were in Vietnam and yet we would do nothing to North Korea which had just a few weeks before captured a Navy boat (USS Pueblo) which enraged William Loeb who owned the Union-Leader. I told him I wanted RFK to be president and the Nixon I saw in the garage scared me and he laughed at that. We left and I took him back to Bedford. As he got out he gave me $100 to "help your Mom" and said please keep in touch. I regret that I did not but I just didn't want to bother him. I would meet him 2 more times, once on the Vineyard and at a record signing at Strawberries on Memorial Drive and he remembered me. After reading Robert Feder I am kicking myself but I will always have that March night 41 years ago. From billohno@gmail.com Sat Jul 18 14:52:47 2009 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:52:47 -0400 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes In-Reply-To: <753B86BC1AA84F17B71081ECF2B70A6F@teddesktop> References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com><20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com> <753B86BC1AA84F17B71081ECF2B70A6F@teddesktop> Message-ID: <4A6219FF.9040006@gmail.com> Ted Larsen wrote: > Walter > just looked at Nixon and shook his head but knew he had to accommodate > him and Nixon sat down and shook off the CBS makeup person and on the > air we go. Thanks for your wonderful observations, Ted. Priceless. We all know how Nixon's lack of makeup impacted on the Kennedy-Nixon debates eight years prior. As to Cronkite's visceral response just to Nixon's presence, I suppose that goes further to the playbook that few in Walter's business have bothered to hold closely. Walter kept it off-camera. > I offer him a ride to the Sheraton and he happily accepted and now I > am embarrassed that I have Walter Cronkite in my gold 65 Mustang. Man, what a great memory - loaded with irony. Embarrassment over a 65 Mustang? And how much would a photo of Walter Cronkite at Uncle Gus' set phone run? Even more than the Mustang! Bill O'Neill From billohno@gmail.com Sat Jul 18 14:17:16 2009 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:17:16 -0400 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes In-Reply-To: <19041.46260.380844.370101@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com> <19041.46260.380844.370101@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4A6211AC.1080500@gmail.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > -GAWollman > (writing to you, just this once, from Cheektowaga, N.Y.) I love that "just this one." For some reason that gave a me a big chuckle. Just what I needed at the right time. Thanks Garrett! Hope you're enjoying your road trip. If you and Scott decide to consider hitting the road in a big van in the shape of a dog with carpeting on the outside, pass. It's already been done. Bill O' From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Jul 18 17:08:49 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:08:49 -0400 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes In-Reply-To: <4fc429770907181324o583e40fcte2c622e16de8b9fe@mail.gmail.co m> References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com> <753B86BC1AA84F17B71081ECF2B70A6F@teddesktop> <4fc429770907181324o583e40fcte2c622e16de8b9fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090718210853.71F1817FBAC@relay11.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> >Kevin said-- > >I don't think Walter was showing contempt for what Nixon stood for but >it was more it would have been nice to tell us you were dropping by. >Nixon I had met a few times before as he spent a lot of time at WMUR >because he had to win that primary or he was finished and I believe he >wound up with over 70 percent of the vote. > >What I took away the most from that night was his genuine concern of >what my generation was feeling and he talked to me like a concerned >uncle no pun intended. I think he was simply being a reporter trying >to find out what we saw was wrong that his generation did not. My own experience was that Walter came from that generation where you NEVER identified your own political leanings. Prior to Vietnam, he was (according to people I know who worked with him) what might be called a moderate conservative. He accepted, as was common back then, the responses of "official government sources". But Vietnam changed him-- his first trip over, he went with the military and saw what the government wanted him to see. But when some members of what would today be called the "alternative" media (like the Village Voice, Boston Phoenix/Real Paper, the Nation, those sorts of publications) questioned whether he had gotten the entire story, to his credit, he revisited it and found, as many of us tried to tell him, that the government wasn't being entirely honest when telling the American people we were winning in Vietnam. From then on, while you didn't see it on screen, his views became more aligned with those who were moderately liberal, and he became much more skeptical-- that was his big problem with Nixon's cover-up of Watergate. He respected the office of the president, but he hated being lied to. He has seen the Johnson administration being less than honest, and he didn't like it when Nixon did the same thing. He kept all of that out of his newscasts however. In his generation, there was a big separation between news and opinion. The few times he gave an opinion, he identified it as such. But after he left the anchor desk, he became active in causes that promoted freedom of speech, freedom of the press (of course) and also separation of church and state. From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Jul 18 16:24:37 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:24:37 -0500 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes In-Reply-To: <753B86BC1AA84F17B71081ECF2B70A6F@teddesktop> References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com> <753B86BC1AA84F17B71081ECF2B70A6F@teddesktop> Message-ID: <4fc429770907181324o583e40fcte2c622e16de8b9fe@mail.gmail.com> My biggest fear that night was not blowing a couple of zoom shots CBS trusted me with. The other CBS talent in the garage that night was Bruce Morton and he and Walter bantered on what this meant for President Johnson. Bill I don't think Walter was showing contempt for what Nixon stood for but it was more it would have been nice to tell us you were dropping by. Nixon I had met a few times before as he spent a lot of time at WMUR because he had to win that primary or he was finished and I believe he wound up with over 70 percent of the vote. What I took away the most from that night was his genuine concern of what my generation was feeling and he talked to me like a concerned uncle no pun intended. I think he was simply being a reporter trying to find out what we saw was wrong that his generation did not. There were a million questions I could have asked him but he was doing the asking. He did joke a couple of times about how WMUR-TV was a little behind the times but was impressed at what we could do considering we had nothing to work with. We were never interrupted once by the customers of The Dog House. Late nights were usually truckers, Air Force guys from the secret tracking station in New Boston and other night owls. Most likely everyone was thinking why on earth would Walter Cronkite be here. Looking back at history that night in New Hampshire was simply the start of an insane couple of years in our history as things would really explode in the coming months. From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Jul 18 16:24:37 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:24:37 -0500 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes In-Reply-To: <753B86BC1AA84F17B71081ECF2B70A6F@teddesktop> References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com> <753B86BC1AA84F17B71081ECF2B70A6F@teddesktop> Message-ID: <4fc429770907181324o583e40fcte2c622e16de8b9fe@mail.gmail.com> My biggest fear that night was not blowing a couple of zoom shots CBS trusted me with. The other CBS talent in the garage that night was Bruce Morton and he and Walter bantered on what this meant for President Johnson. Bill I don't think Walter was showing contempt for what Nixon stood for but it was more it would have been nice to tell us you were dropping by. Nixon I had met a few times before as he spent a lot of time at WMUR because he had to win that primary or he was finished and I believe he wound up with over 70 percent of the vote. What I took away the most from that night was his genuine concern of what my generation was feeling and he talked to me like a concerned uncle no pun intended. I think he was simply being a reporter trying to find out what we saw was wrong that his generation did not. There were a million questions I could have asked him but he was doing the asking. He did joke a couple of times about how WMUR-TV was a little behind the times but was impressed at what we could do considering we had nothing to work with. We were never interrupted once by the customers of The Dog House. Late nights were usually truckers, Air Force guys from the secret tracking station in New Boston and other night owls. Most likely everyone was thinking why on earth would Walter Cronkite be here. Looking back at history that night in New Hampshire was simply the start of an insane couple of years in our history as things would really explode in the coming months. From billohno@gmail.com Sat Jul 18 21:32:59 2009 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:32:59 -0400 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes In-Reply-To: <20090718210853.71F1817FBAC@relay11.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com> <753B86BC1AA84F17B71081ECF2B70A6F@teddesktop> <4fc429770907181324o583e40fcte2c622e16de8b9fe@mail.gmail.com> <20090718210853.71F1817FBAC@relay11.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4A6277CB.2020809@gmail.com> Donna Halper wrote: > From then on, while you didn't see it on screen, his views became more > aligned with those who were moderately liberal, and he became much > more skeptical-- that was his big problem with Nixon's cover-up of > Watergate. He respected the office of the president, but he hated > being lied to. He has seen the Johnson administration being less than > honest, and he didn't like it when Nixon did the same thing. I suppose, then, only time will tell if moderately liberal alignments among media recapitulates a similar or like skepticism now that decision makers at the federal level are no longer of the conservative camp. I have thoroughly enjoyed reading the Cronkite posts. There's gotta be many undocumented stories about the wild world of the "first in the nation primary" in the Granite State. What a book that would be! (Hmm, I wonder if there are any historians on this list who would dig into that... "That's thirty." # 30 # Bill O' From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Jul 18 21:43:44 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:43:44 -0400 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes In-Reply-To: <4A6277CB.2020809@gmail.com> References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com> <753B86BC1AA84F17B71081ECF2B70A6F@teddesktop> <4fc429770907181324o583e40fcte2c622e16de8b9fe@mail.gmail.com> <20090718210853.71F1817FBAC@relay11.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <4A6277CB.2020809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090719014348.CDC314008B@relay8.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> At 09:32 PM 7/18/2009, Bill O'Neill wrote: >I suppose, then, only time will tell if moderately liberal >alignments among media recapitulates a similar or like skepticism >now that decision makers at the federal level are no longer of the >conservative camp. I think, based on the people I know, that the idea of the "liberal media" is a myth. There have always been a few hardline righties and a few hardline lefties, but most of the folks I've worked with over the years tended to be rather centrist-- liberal on a few issues, more traditional on others. And just about all of them were trained to be skeptical. Now, does that mean they ask the questions you (or I) wish they would ask? Not always. But that doesn't mean they are partisan shills. Nobody has mentioned this yet, so I will. Walter Cronkite, much as I admired him, was very very traditional about women on the air-- he was about as close to old-fashioned "news should be done by men" as you can get. That said, I have no evidence he ever tried to prevent women from being on the air. He just wasn't accustomed to them being there as on-air reporters, and even said so once or twice. So, yeah, he became more skeptical about government and about politics, but as for his views of gender roles, very old-fashioned conservative (not that there's anything wrong with that). I have the feeling that most of the people covering the news try their best to be professional and cover the story in a fair and accurate manner -- even Chris Wallace and Brit Hume of Fox have corrected their colleagues who made factual errors, and the same goes for most of the other journalists I know, be they liberal or conservative in their personal life. But as for the commentators, they are an entirely different conversation-- I do not expect either Bill O'Reilly or Keith Olbermann to adhere to the standards or a Cronkite or an Aaron Brown. From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Jul 18 21:57:11 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:57:11 -0500 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes Message-ID: <20090719015711.CB388905C43@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> An "All in the Family" moment from the episode when Archie's man-on-the-street interview with CBS news was to be broadcast...right after this moment, the TV set goes on the blink and I believe an effort to repair it is unsuccessful and the gang all gathers at Kelcy's Bar to watch (only Archie gets pre-empted by a Nixon press conference). Anyway: ARCHIE: Edith, what channel is the Cronkite news on? EDITH: Channel 2, Archie; the one we don't watch because you keep telling us that Walter Cronkite is a Communist. :) From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Jul 18 22:53:17 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:53:17 -0500 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes In-Reply-To: <4A6219FF.9040006@gmail.com> References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com> <753B86BC1AA84F17B71081ECF2B70A6F@teddesktop> <4A6219FF.9040006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770907181953o737b2652k95e9438980ccae8c@mail.gmail.com> What was being said at the time (1968) was that Sam Phillips the GM was courting CBS for a possible affiliate switch to CBS. Supposedly the switch was being considered for the sake of one viewer who summered in the Lakes Region north of Laconia who couldn't get CBS at his retreat one William Paley. I guess CBS tried everything to get either 5 or 13 to come in but the home was too isolated. Phillips most likely told CBS that WMUR was state of the art because he actually believed it. Maybe in 1954 but by the late 60's it was in tough shape. I am sure Cronkite was amused that the AP ticker was in the front lobby next to the Coke machine and usually nobody checked it unless they were buying a Coke. United Broadcasting and Cable was owned by Richard Eaton who signed all the paychecks himself out of DC. What was frightening was WMUR was the flagship as we used to send used equipment to WOOK-TV in DC and Channel 9 in El Centro, CA to keep them running. A couple of post-scripts to 1968 for WMUR 1. In June the station was praised by the Boston Globe for being the only area station to stay on the air all night when RFK was shot. The truth was the xmtr engineer feel asleep and missed the anthem. Now we would punch up black on the switcher and leave but at the mountain it was setup that if the xmtr saw black for 60 seconds it would switch to the network loop so WMUR became translator for WABC which did go back to Los Angeles. 2. For the conventions, program director Ray Harris came up with the idea of running movies instead of ABC's nightly coverage and the station received thank you mail from as far as Connecticut. 3. On election night it was dead even between Nixon and Humphrey and Sam Phillips was pacing because we were all on overtime. At 1 AM he ordered the news director to declare Nixon the winner and we signed off. We were 8 hours ahead of the networks. :) From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Jul 18 23:24:18 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:24:18 -0500 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes In-Reply-To: References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com> <753B86BC1AA84F17B71081ECF2B70A6F@teddesktop> <4A6219FF.9040006@gmail.com> <4fc429770907181953o737b2652k95e9438980ccae8c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770907182024v5f01e30fm14a31f24f819c9ed@mail.gmail.com> Chuck Igo wrote *Did the engineer get a raise for being *incredibly foresighted? Not exactly :) A couple of months later the reverse happened. This time he DID wake up for the anthem and timed the shutoff right to the last note and happily drove off the mountain no doubt upsetting viewers who were cheering a US gold medal at the Mexico City Olympics... From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sat Jul 18 23:07:31 2009 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:07:31 -0400 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com><20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com><4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com><753B86BC1AA84F17B71081ECF2B70A6F@teddesktop><4A6219FF.9040006@gmail.com> <4fc429770907181953o737b2652k95e9438980ccae8c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Kevin wrote: > A couple of post-scripts to 1968 for WMUR > > 1. In June the station was praised by the Boston Globe for being the > only area station to stay on the air all night when RFK was shot. The > truth was the xmtr engineer feel asleep and missed the anthem. Now we > would punch up black on the switcher and leave but at the mountain it > was setup that if the xmtr saw black for 60 seconds it would switch to > the network loop so WMUR became translator for WABC which did go back > to Los Angeles. Did the engineer get a raise for being incredibly foresighted? (snip) > 3. On election night it was dead even between Nixon and Humphrey and > Sam Phillips was pacing because we were all on overtime. At 1 AM he > ordered the news director to declare Nixon the winner and we signed > off. We were 8 hours ahead of the networks. :) Now we have all worked for fiscally conservative employers and in this case Phillips was a genius and shrewd money guy. Did the Chicago pressroom that gaffed in the Dewey days do the same thing, i wonder? --Chuck Igo From heritageradio@msn.com Sun Jul 19 01:50:25 2009 From: heritageradio@msn.com (thomas heathwood) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:50:25 -0400 Subject: Kevin's Cronkite Story Message-ID: A great story Kevin. One of the very best I've heard in the last several hours. By chance, are there any existing pictures of the "garage" and surroundings that wonderful night at WMUR ? Tom Heathwood From kvahey@comcast.net Sun Jul 19 02:38:00 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:38:00 -0500 Subject: Kevin's Cronkite Story In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4fc429770907182338q1f0d1d3ap38240b1e2e77c4ad@mail.gmail.com> A few pics of the main studio are around http://www.ggninfo.com/October04.htm Spent many a Saturday morning with Ring A Ding. But that was a pleasure compared to working a Sunday morning running the same A. A. Allen healing show every week.... http://www.captainerniesshowboat.com/ringading This was the outside of 1819. The garage was in the very rear of the right side. If you walked in the front door into the 'lobby' you might be greeted by the news director or otherwise you would wander as there was no receptionist. Basement was the film department, 1st floor was studio and operations, 2nd floor was the office and the 3rd floor was rented out to the artist who drew the comic Archie and once in awhile WMUR would appear in the strip. http://www.ggninfo.com/May.htm One Sunday night we went up to the attic and found a McKINLEY-ROOSEVELT banner in mint condition and we moved it to the projection room where it stayed until the station moved. From raccoonradio@mail.com Sun Jul 19 06:01:01 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:01:01 -0500 Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN Message-ID: <20090719100102.2C7D583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> http://bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20090719rip_big_mattress_wbcn/srvc=home&position=2 Howie Carr column remembering the heyday of WBCN. The Herald site also has a photo gallery of WBCN at that time. I remember the press kit bit about Duane Glascock; I was in high school and wrote away to them as part of a project. >> "It was the first time I realized the power of radio - the power then, you understand, as opposed to now, which is not nearly as much." From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Sun Jul 19 12:16:27 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:16:27 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN References: <20090719100102.2C7D583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <3EC6EA0BFABA41CDB960EFD341525897@teddesktop> I can remember 'BCN before it's "heyday," when it was all classical....The Boston Concert Network as I remember. Believe it had an affiliation with WQXR in NYC. It was on Newbury Street then. I was a student at BU's college of Basic Studies on Boylston St. behind the BPL before its expansion and always had lunch at Shariff's Cafeteria, 'BCN was upstairs. Being as "radio nut' even then my friends and I often visited & probably drove Ron Della Chiesa crazy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBCN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:01 AM Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN http://bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20090719rip_big_mattress_wbcn/srvc=home&position=2 Howie Carr column remembering the heyday of WBCN. The Herald site also has a photo gallery of WBCN at that time. I remember the press kit bit about Duane Glascock; I was in high school and wrote away to them as part of a project. >> "It was the first time I realized the power of radio - the power then, >> you understand, as opposed to now, which is not nearly as much." From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Jul 19 12:42:17 2009 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:42:17 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN In-Reply-To: <3EC6EA0BFABA41CDB960EFD341525897@teddesktop> Message-ID: <200907191642.n6JGgNej058574@tsornin.bostonradio.org> I remember when Ron Della Chiesa used to work at WBCN in the pre-rock days - he was the host of "Candlelight & Silver" which aired around dinner time..........He also did the intros for "Sack Theatres Midnight Showtime......a 180-minute musical adventure into sound....presented by the 8 downtown Boston Sack Theatres....Sack Theatres bringing you the finest in motion picture entertainment..in the most comfortable and luxurious surroundings..." Gary Francis -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Ted Larsen Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:16 PM To: Bob Nelson; BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Re: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN I can remember 'BCN before it's "heyday," when it was all classical....The Boston Concert Network as I remember. Believe it had an affiliation with WQXR in NYC. It was on Newbury Street then. I was a student at BU's college of Basic Studies on Boylston St. behind the BPL before its expansion and always had lunch at Shariff's Cafeteria, 'BCN was upstairs. Being as "radio nut' even then my friends and I often visited & probably drove Ron Della Chiesa crazy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBCN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:01 AM Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN http://bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20090719rip_big_mattress_wbcn/s rvc=home&position=2 Howie Carr column remembering the heyday of WBCN. The Herald site also has a photo gallery of WBCN at that time. I remember the press kit bit about Duane Glascock; I was in high school and wrote away to them as part of a project. >> "It was the first time I realized the power of radio - the power then, >> you understand, as opposed to now, which is not nearly as much." From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Sun Jul 19 12:43:02 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:43:02 -0400 Subject: More on the Old 'BCN-Boston Concert Network Message-ID: I did a little more research on http://www.bostonradio.org/stations/26897 I earlier made a mistake about a WQXR affiliation. Here is a highlight: WBCN first took to the airwaves in May 1958, as a standalone classical FM known as the "Boston Concert Network". WBCN was part of a group of "Concert Network" stations, including WXCN 101.5 Providence (now WWBB), WHCN 105.9 Hartford, WRCN 103.9 Riverhead, N.Y., and WNCN 104.3 New York (now WAXQ). WBCN's studios were then located at 171 Newbury St. in Boston's fashionable Back Bay neighborhood. By the late 1960s, WBCN began to feel the competition from other classical outlets, including WGBH 89.7 and WCRB/WCRB-FM. WBCN began leasing out time at night for 'underground rock' broadcasts, under the name "The American Revolution". The first rock song heard on WBCN, on March 15, 1968, was "I Feel Free" by Cream. From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Jul 19 13:18:15 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:18:15 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN In-Reply-To: <20090719100102.2C7D583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20090719100102.2C7D583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4A635557.19887.452D87@joe.attorneyross.com> On 19 Jul 2009 at 5:01, Bob Nelson wrote: > Howie Carr column remembering the heyday of WBCN. The Herald site also > has a photo gallery of WBCN at that time. I remember the press kit bit > about Duane Glascock; I was in high school and wrote away to them as > part of a project. I don't know, the heyday of WBCN that I remember is when they were the flagship of the Concert Network. They were competing with WCRB and WXHR and sometimes WBZ-FM and WCOP-FM (both also-rans), but they were a really professional station. They had one of the first woman announcers, Nirmal Danier (spelling may be off). Shortly afterwards, WHXR got Janet Baker-Carr. But in 1959, when I got my first FM radio, WBCN and WCRB were the full-time classical stations. WXHR signed on at 4:30 PM until, some months later, it joined the QXR network. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jul 19 13:37:14 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:37:14 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN References: <20090719100102.2C7D583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <3EC6EA0BFABA41CDB960EFD341525897@teddesktop> Message-ID: <6FBB2FBA975046A8B6C447E77F93C49F@SatU205S5044> Nope! The affiliation with the New York station was with WNCN (New York Concert Network). I may be mistaken but I think that what was then WNCN is now Clear Channel's WAXQ. There was also at least one more affiliate in the Concert Network, WHCN (IIRC) in Hartford. I have no clue about what WHCN has since become, but someone will surely tell us. Moreover, I'm pretty sure that the Concert Network had yet one more station--in Providence. You might think that the calls would have been WPCN, but I think they were WXCN. Two of the four Concert Network station locations (Hartford, Boston) were the same as those of two of Maj Armstrong's original five-station over-the-air relay network which began on the old pre-war 44-52-MHz FM band and, after the war, moved up to the current band. Its stations were W2XMN Alpine NJ, a station whose calls I don't know on Meriden Mtn near Hartford, a station on Asnebumskit Hill in Paxton that at one point had the calls WGTR (FM), and a station atop Mt Washington that was once WMTW (FM). In those days, I doubt whether the 104.1, licensed to Waterbury but serving the Hartford market had yet signed on, so it's possible that Concert Network, even without a Worcester affiliate, was able to relay programs over the air from New York to Boston with only two hops (New York to Hartford and Hartford to Boston). ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Larsen" To: "Bob Nelson" ; "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:16 PM Subject: Re: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN >I can remember 'BCN before it's "heyday," when it was all >classical....The Boston Concert Network as I remember. Believe it had >an affiliation with WQXR in NYC. It was on Newbury Street then. > > I was a student at BU's college of Basic Studies on Boylston St. > behind the BPL before its expansion and always had lunch at > Shariff's Cafeteria, 'BCN was upstairs. Being as "radio nut' even > then my friends and I often visited & probably drove Ron Della > Chiesa crazy. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBCN > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Nelson" > To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" > > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:01 AM > Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN > > > http://bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20090719rip_big_mattress_wbcn/srvc=home&position=2 > > Howie Carr column remembering the heyday of WBCN. The Herald site > also has a photo gallery of WBCN at that > time. I remember the press kit bit about Duane Glascock; I was in > high school and wrote away to them as part > of a project. > >>> "It was the first time I realized the power of radio - the power >>> then, you understand, as opposed to now, which is not nearly as >>> much." > > From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Jul 19 13:18:15 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:18:15 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN In-Reply-To: <3EC6EA0BFABA41CDB960EFD341525897@teddesktop> References: <20090719100102.2C7D583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <3EC6EA0BFABA41CDB960EFD341525897@teddesktop> Message-ID: <4A635557.11452.452E3B@joe.attorneyross.com> On 19 Jul 2009 at 12:16, Ted Larsen wrote: > I can remember 'BCN before it's "heyday," when it was all > classical....The Boston Concert Network as I remember. Believe it had > an affiliation with WQXR in NYC. It was on Newbury Street then. No, it was WXHR that had an affiliation with WQXR. As did WTAG-FM in Worcester. WBCN originated programming for the Concert Network, which included WHCN Hartford, WXCN Providence, WNCN in New York (which at some point started doing its own programming), and WMTW-FM, Mt. Washington, NH. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Sun Jul 19 12:47:46 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:47:46 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN References: Message-ID: <7F76803A70D44C9084F41B851EFE8031@teddesktop> Son of a gun. I used to work at WLYN, Lynn and we also had a 6-8pm "Candlelight & Sliver" which was mostly albums by "The 101 Strings." We just let 'em track through. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary's Ice Cream" To: "'Ted Larsen'" Cc: "Boston radio e-mail list" Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:42 PM Subject: RE: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN >I remember when Ron Della Chiesa used to work at WBCN in the pre-rock >days - > he was the host of "Candlelight & Silver" which aired around dinner > time..........He also did the intros for "Sack Theatres Midnight > Showtime......a 180-minute musical adventure into sound....presented by > the > 8 downtown Boston Sack Theatres....Sack Theatres bringing you the finest > in > motion picture entertainment..in the most comfortable and luxurious > surroundings..." > > > Gary Francis > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf > Of > Ted Larsen > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:16 PM > To: Bob Nelson; BostonRadio Mailing List > Subject: Re: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN > > I can remember 'BCN before it's "heyday," when it was all classical....The > Boston Concert Network as I remember. Believe it had an affiliation with > WQXR in NYC. It was on Newbury Street then. > > I was a student at BU's college of Basic Studies on Boylston St. behind > the > BPL before its expansion and always had lunch at Shariff's Cafeteria, 'BCN > was upstairs. Being as "radio nut' even then my friends and I often > visited > & probably drove Ron Della Chiesa crazy. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBCN > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Nelson" > To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" > > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:01 AM > Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN > > > http://bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20090719rip_big_mattress_wbcn/s > rvc=home&position=2 > > Howie Carr column remembering the heyday of WBCN. The Herald site also has > a > > photo gallery of WBCN at that > time. I remember the press kit bit about Duane Glascock; I was in high > school and wrote away to them as part > of a project. > >>> "It was the first time I realized the power of radio - the power then, >>> you understand, as opposed to now, which is not nearly as much." > > > From kvahey@comcast.net Sun Jul 19 21:07:02 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:07:02 -0500 Subject: The greatest uplink ever Message-ID: <4fc429770907191807v497adffeif962b5594828c044@mail.gmail.com> For someone who 40 years later frets about getting a clean fiber signal from Toronto to Watertown in HD it is good to look back at the greatest uplink challenge of them all which was getting live TV from the moon in 1969 Heck 40 years ago AT&T has problems getting a signal from Waltham to Goffstown, NH when it rained plus the direction of network feeds from east to west and back all depended on a relay station in Iowa some 200 miles west of Chicago A tip of the hat to the engineers 40 years ago who made this work as well as it did http://www.honeysucklecreek.net/Apollo_11/TV_from_Moon.html From madprof@ix.netcom.com Sun Jul 19 23:18:48 2009 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:18:48 -0400 Subject: The greatest uplink ever Message-ID: <380-22009712031848109@ix.netcom.com> Kevin, thatk you for an incredible article, extremely interesting! Honestly, I am surprized such was possible in 1969. Bob > [Original Message] > From: Kevin Vahey > Subject: The greatest uplink ever From nostaticatall@charter.net Mon Jul 20 00:00:50 2009 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:00:50 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN In-Reply-To: <6FBB2FBA975046A8B6C447E77F93C49F@SatU205S5044> References: <20090719100102.2C7D583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <3EC6EA0BFABA41CDB960EFD341525897@teddesktop> <6FBB2FBA975046A8B6C447E77F93C49F@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <579F643F-A14A-4D4B-91D6-C207E8F2AE85@charter.net> Like WBCN, WHCN had a long run as a progressive rocker in the late 60's and evolved into an AOR station and stayed that way through the mid 90's. They shifted to classic rock in 1995, but by the early 2000's, the rock radio dial in Connecticut was very crowded, with longtime crosstown rivals WCCC and modern rocker WMRQ, along with big signalled stations from Springfield (WAQY) New Haven (WPLR) and Danbury (WRKI) dividing up the rock pie. In 2002 they shifted to a rock AC/classic hits hybrid and changed their moniker to "The River." They continue with this format today, but the WHCN calls remain. -Dave Tomm On Jul 19, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Nope! The affiliation with the New York station was with WNCN (New > York Concert Network). I may be mistaken but I think that what was > then WNCN is now Clear Channel's WAXQ. There was also at least one > more affiliate in the Concert Network, WHCN (IIRC) in Hartford. I have > no clue about what WHCN has since become, but someone will surely tell > us. From nostaticatall@charter.net Sun Jul 19 23:47:57 2009 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:47:57 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN In-Reply-To: <4A635557.11452.452E3B@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <20090719100102.2C7D583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <3EC6EA0BFABA41CDB960EFD341525897@teddesktop> <4A635557.11452.452E3B@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: ..and WRCN on Long Island.... -Dave Tomm On Jul 19, 2009, at 1:18 PM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 19 Jul 2009 at 12:16, Ted Larsen wrote: > >> I can remember 'BCN before it's "heyday," when it was all >> classical....The Boston Concert Network as I remember. Believe it had >> an affiliation with WQXR in NYC. It was on Newbury Street then. > > No, it was WXHR that had an affiliation with WQXR. As did WTAG-FM in > Worcester. WBCN originated programming for the Concert Network, > which included WHCN Hartford, WXCN Providence, WNCN in New York > (which at some point started doing its own programming), and WMTW-FM, > Mt. Washington, NH. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 20 00:44:26 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:44:26 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN In-Reply-To: <6FBB2FBA975046A8B6C447E77F93C49F@SatU205S5044> References: <20090719100102.2C7D583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, <6FBB2FBA975046A8B6C447E77F93C49F@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4A63F62A.3183.10C276B@joe.attorneyross.com> On 19 Jul 2009 at 13:37, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > In those days, I doubt whether the 104.1, licensed to Waterbury but > serving the Hartford market had yet signed on, so it's possible > that Concert Network, even without a Worcester affiliate, was able > to relay programs over the air from New York to Boston with only > two hops (New York to Hartford and Hartford to Boston). If so, it was done in the other direction, since the Concert Network originated in Boston. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Jul 20 00:51:19 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:51:19 -0400 Subject: Gordon, of Peter & Gordon, Passes Away In-Reply-To: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20090714173302.4753483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20090720045127.D7B493EF246@relay5.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> Wow, another memory from those top-40 years... Gordon Waller, half of the top-40 duo Peter & Gordon, passed away from a heart attack on 17 July. I always liked their songs-- particularly "A World Without Love" and "Woman." Now I'm really feeling old... From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Jul 20 01:18:49 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:18:49 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN In-Reply-To: References: <20090719100102.2C7D583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <3EC6EA0BFABA41CDB960EFD341525897@teddesktop> <4A635557.11452.452E3B@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <20090720051857.4D4A95D811D@relay3.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> At 11:47 PM 7/19/2009, Dave Tomm wrote: >..and WRCN on Long Island.... And here's a point of trivia-- the original WBCN calls were from a station in Chicago, where a local newspaper owned WBCN. For several decades, it stood for "World's Best Community Newspaper." From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jul 20 01:11:58 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:11:58 -0500 Subject: The greatest uplink ever In-Reply-To: <380-22009712031848109@ix.netcom.com> References: <380-22009712031848109@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770907192211v76581592g1a470d17e7b68262@mail.gmail.com> For 1969 this is astounding. Here are links to more info http://www.honeysucklecreek.net/Apollo_11/index.html To put things in perspective 9 months earlier NBC was unable to restore a connection for a football game in Oakland back to NY because a tech in Iowa had changed the flow of the network back to east to west and Burbank was helpless to stop the madness of Heidi back at 30 Rock. I had no idea from the time Aldrin turned the camera on before Armstrong's first step was only 150 seconds. That folks is pressure. On 7/19/09, Robert F. Sutherland wrote: > Kevin, thatk you for an incredible article, > extremely interesting! > Honestly, I am surprized such was possible in 1969. > > Bob > >> [Original Message] >> From: Kevin Vahey >> Subject: The greatest uplink ever > > > > From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Mon Jul 20 07:00:21 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:00:21 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN References: <20090719100102.2C7D583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <3EC6EA0BFABA41CDB960EFD341525897@teddesktop> <6FBB2FBA975046A8B6C447E77F93C49F@SatU205S5044> <579F643F-A14A-4D4B-91D6-C207E8F2AE85@charter.net> Message-ID: Seeing WCCC certainly brings back some long forgotten memories. I was dating my future wife who lived in NYC and I was always driving my VW Beetle from Boston to the Big Apple when the station was all classical which I liked. Their format was called "The Hot 100." When CCC was out of range I'd switch to WCBS for all-news. This is an exhaustive history of CCC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCCC_(AM) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Tomm" To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: "Ted Larsen" ; "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 12:00 AM Subject: Re: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN > Like WBCN, WHCN had a long run as a progressive rocker in the late 60's > and evolved into an AOR station and stayed that way through the mid 90's. > They shifted to classic rock in 1995, but by the early 2000's, the rock > radio dial in Connecticut was very crowded, with longtime crosstown > rivals WCCC and modern rocker WMRQ, along with big signalled stations > from Springfield (WAQY) New Haven (WPLR) and Danbury (WRKI) dividing up > the rock pie. In 2002 they shifted to a rock AC/classic hits hybrid and > changed their moniker to "The River." They continue with this format > today, but the WHCN calls remain. > > -Dave Tomm > > On Jul 19, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > >> Nope! The affiliation with the New York station was with WNCN (New >> York Concert Network). I may be mistaken but I think that what was >> then WNCN is now Clear Channel's WAXQ. There was also at least one >> more affiliate in the Concert Network, WHCN (IIRC) in Hartford. I have >> no clue about what WHCN has since become, but someone will surely tell >> us. From Joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 20 15:44:21 2009 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:44:21 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN In-Reply-To: References: <20090719100102.2C7D583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>, Message-ID: <4A64C915.23093.7A67FF@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 20 Jul 2009 Ted Larsen wrote: > Seeing WCCC certainly brings back some long forgotten memories. I was > dating my future wife who lived in NYC and I was always driving my VW > Beetle from Boston to the Big Apple when the station was all classical > which I liked. Their format was called "The Hot 100." When CCC was out > of range I'd switch to WCBS for all-news. Wasn't there a WCCC in Hartford in the mid-1960s? Seems to me I heard an FM station with that or similar call letters when I was at UMass then. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From markwats@comcast.net Mon Jul 20 18:45:20 2009 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:45:20 -0400 Subject: Walter Cronkite passes References: <454239.66326.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com><20090718041317.E740B13D33BF@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <4fc429770907172359m53e0f449pb60eda1c7e960fe0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2B865F6C2813497FA3A951178FE35C34@Mark> Kevin Vahey wrote: >I have one Walter Cronkite story and it goes back to 1968 >at WMUR of all >places. Great story Kevin. As bad as WMUR was back in the United Broadcasting days, you certainly had some good memorable moments. What a thrill it must have been for you to eat hot dogs and discuss current events at 2 in the morning with Walter Cronkite. And it was very nice of him to give you some money to help your Mom. My brother read your story and he was speechless. Mark Watson From lglavin@mail.com Thu Jul 16 14:51:41 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:51:41 -0500 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 Message-ID: <20090716185141.2AB68BE407E@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Scott Fybush" >To: "Dan.Strassberg" >Cc: "Boston Radio Group" >Subject: Re: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 >Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:37:08 -0400 >Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Well, if Entercom were willing to take the same kind of 90% hit on > 97.7 that Heftel and its successors took on the Newark/NYC 105.9, WGBH > or WBUR could get WKAF and the WCRB intellectual property for only $3 > million. It would be interesting to hear how the population numbers > for 97.7 compare with those for any of the full Bs on the Pru. Scott > almost certainly knows the answer already, but I would not be > surprised to learn that WKAF's 60 dBu contour covered 70% of the > population within (say) WBCN's 60 dBu. >At a guess, I'd say the number is probably 65% or less. The >difference between an A and a B is much more dramatic than that >between a B1 and a B - and it's exacerbated by WKAF's non-central >transmitter site. And with WOKQ to contend with, as well as the >97.7 in southwest NH, there's really no wiggle room to move WKAF >anywhere much more useful. >WBCN's 60 covers nearly everything within 495. WKAF's doesn't even >get everything within 128. >s For what it's worth, WKAF has applied to the FCC for a power boost from 1,700 watts to a little more than 2,000 watts from the same transmitter site and with the same altitude, etc. The contour map at fcc.gov shows that the primary signal will float northward from south of Woburn center to include it in its coverage area, and it will move northeastward from Saugus to Lynn! Whoopee. Maybe Entercomm plans to apply for power increases every year until the signal reaches Methuen; ok, it already does, but subject to splatter from WOKQ. -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jul 21 00:41:30 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:41:30 -0400 Subject: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 References: <20090716185141.2AB68BE407E@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1FEC93B0340842A5985EE97D9FD90C65@SatU205S5044> Looks as if the applied-for power increase is all she wrote. It would boost WKAF to the Class A maximum of the equivalent of 6 kW @ 100m AAT. Remember that when the A Class was created, the limit was the equivalent of 1 kW @ 250', which translates to 580W at 100m. So the Class A maximum power has grown by more than 10x (or more than 10 dB) over the years, whereas the maximum power of Class Bs has grown from 20 kW @ 500' to only 50 kW @ 150m., which is a factor of less than 2.5x (or less than 4 dB), if my calculations are correct. What limited WKAF to only 1.7 kW @ 569' after its move to Great Blue Hill? The former WINQ, Winchendon, now moved, I believe, to Keene NH? WOKQ? Somebody here knows, I'm sure. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Scott Fybush" ; "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:51 PM Subject: Re: WBCN to sports at 98.5; WBMX to 104.1 For what it's worth, WKAF has applied to the FCC for a power boost from 1,700 watts to a little more than 2,000 watts from the same transmitter site and with the same altitude, etc. The contour map at fcc.gov shows that the primary signal will float northward from south of Woburn center to include it in its coverage area, and it will move northeastward from Saugus to Lynn! Whoopee. Maybe Entercomm plans to apply for power increases every year until the signal reaches Methuen; ok, it already does, but subject to splatter from WOKQ. From dave@skywaves.net Tue Jul 21 00:39:43 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:39:43 -0400 Subject: The greatest uplink ever References: <4fc429770907191807v497adffeif962b5594828c044@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: A monumental achievement. Your email also explains something we often heard when the network failed in those days. The problem was always "westa Chicago" but we never knew how far "westa" it was... -Dave Doherty Skywaves Consulting LLC PO Box 4 Millbury, MA 01527 401-354-2400 202-370-6357 (DC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" ; "Donna Halper" ; "Garrett Wollman" ; "Maureen Carney" ; "Scott Fybush" Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: The greatest uplink ever > > For someone who 40 years later frets about getting a clean fiber > signal from Toronto to Watertown in HD it is good to look back at the > greatest uplink challenge of them all which was getting live TV from > the moon in 1969 > > Heck 40 years ago AT&T has problems getting a signal from Waltham to > Goffstown, NH when it rained plus the direction of network feeds from > east to west and back all depended on a relay station in Iowa some 200 > miles west of Chicago > > A tip of the hat to the engineers 40 years ago who made this work as > well as it did > > http://www.honeysucklecreek.net/Apollo_11/TV_from_Moon.html > From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 18:19:31 2009 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WCCC and WCCC-FM Hartford (was Re: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN) Message-ID: <929982.75543.qm@web50812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Yup. It is the same WCCC you remember as a student at UMass. I was a regular listener to CCC while I went to school at Westfield State College back in in the 70's. Believe it or not, WCCC-FM (and WCCC/1290) were running Top-40 for a while in the early 70's (say around 73-74) calling themselves "Triple C". But that "experiment" went nowhere and they reverted back to Album Rock which still is heard on 106.9 to this day. Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Mon, 7/20/09, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > From: A. Joseph Ross > Subject: Re: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN > To: "Ted Larsen" > Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" > Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 3:44 PM > On 20 Jul 2009 Ted Larsen wrote: > > > Seeing WCCC certainly brings back some long forgotten > memories. I was > > dating my future wife who lived in NYC and I was > always driving my VW > > Beetle from Boston to the Big Apple when the station > was all classical > > which I liked. Their format was called "The Hot 100." > When CCC was out > > of range I'd switch to WCBS for all-news. > > Wasn't there a WCCC in Hartford in the mid-1960s?? > Seems to me I > heard an FM station with that or similar call letters when > I was at > UMass then. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ???617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700? ? ? ? > ? ? Fax: 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004? ? ? ? > ???http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From keithlavon@gmail.com Tue Jul 21 18:41:49 2009 From: keithlavon@gmail.com (Keith Lavon) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:41:49 -0400 Subject: WCCC and WCCC-FM Hartford (was Re: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN) In-Reply-To: <929982.75543.qm@web50812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <929982.75543.qm@web50812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3c6f0dce0907211541u1e2c0889k35c53a8f8fba762@mail.gmail.com> It is also the same WCCC that Howard Stern worked at in the late 1970's...met Fred Norris there and is generally considered his first major market gig.... WCCC is feature somewhat prominently in Private Parts On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Peter Q. George wrote: > > Yup. It is the same WCCC you remember as a student at UMass. I was a > regular listener to CCC while I went to school at Westfield State College > back in in the 70's. Believe it or not, WCCC-FM (and WCCC/1290) were > running Top-40 for a while in the early 70's (say around 73-74) calling > themselves "Triple C". But that "experiment" went nowhere and they reverted > back to Album Rock which still is heard on 106.9 to this day. > > > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) > Whitman, Massachusetts > "Scanning the bands since 1967" > > radiojunkie3@yahoo.com > *********************************************************** > > > --- On Mon, 7/20/09, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > > From: A. Joseph Ross > > Subject: Re: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN > > To: "Ted Larsen" > > Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" < > boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org> > > Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 3:44 PM > > On 20 Jul 2009 Ted Larsen wrote: > > > > > Seeing WCCC certainly brings back some long forgotten > > memories. I was > > > dating my future wife who lived in NYC and I was > > always driving my VW > > > Beetle from Boston to the Big Apple when the station > > was all classical > > > which I liked. Their format was called "The Hot 100." > > When CCC was out > > > of range I'd switch to WCBS for all-news. > > > > Wasn't there a WCCC in Hartford in the mid-1960s? > > Seems to me I > > heard an FM station with that or similar call letters when > > I was at > > UMass then. > > > > -- > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. > > 617.367.0468 > > 92 State Street, Suite 700 > > Fax: 617.507.7856 > > Boston, MA 02109-2004 > > http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > > > > > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Jul 22 07:31:16 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:31:16 -0400 Subject: Brother Stair on a second Boston-area signal? Message-ID: <8A5898CBCFF2411697DFD96F69162FF6@SatU205S5044> I doubt whether KMOX is carrying "Brother" Stair's pay-for-play end-of-the-world rantings--at least not yet. Still, WBNW 1120 has a somewhat spotty record for going off the air for a couple of hours in a row every now and then--especially in the evenings, so I can't be absolutely certain that WBNW was the weak 1120 signal on which I heard Stair last evening. (AFAIK, Stair's overnight show continues from midnight to 6:00AM on WWZN 1510.) Maybe the chatter by supporters of the Progressive talk that runs on WWZN from 6:00AM to 7:00PM M-F has scared Stair into finding another station, or an additional station, in this area. The Save Boston's Progressive Talk e-mail list frequently carries items that suggest that the friends of the group are aiming to buy more of WWZN's air time and the group members sure do seem to have Stair's wild rantings in their sights. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Jul 22 07:40:32 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:40:32 -0500 Subject: Brother Stair on a second Boston-area signal? In-Reply-To: <8A5898CBCFF2411697DFD96F69162FF6@SatU205S5044> References: <8A5898CBCFF2411697DFD96F69162FF6@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80907220440m337ab5eai62c3128aac0c217e@mail.gmail.com> Brother Stair is only listed from 12am to 6am Sundays, but the other days on the 1510 site don't list what is actually on in that time frame Monday thru Saturday. Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com www.facebook.com/onairdj walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I doubt whether KMOX is carrying "Brother" Stair's pay-for-play > end-of-the-world rantings--at least not yet. Still, WBNW 1120 has a > somewhat spotty record for going off the air for a couple of hours in > a row every now and then--especially in the evenings, so I can't be > absolutely certain that WBNW was the weak 1120 signal on which I heard > Stair last evening. (AFAIK, Stair's overnight show continues from > midnight to 6:00AM on WWZN 1510.) Maybe the chatter by supporters of > the Progressive talk that runs on WWZN from 6:00AM to 7:00PM M-F has > scared Stair into finding another station, or an additional station, > in this area. The Save Boston's Progressive Talk e-mail list > frequently carries items that suggest that the friends of the group > are aiming to buy more of WWZN's air time and the group members sure > do seem to have Stair's wild rantings in their sights. > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Jul 22 10:52:09 2009 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:52:09 -0400 Subject: Brother Stair on a second Boston-area signal? In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80907220440m337ab5eai62c3128aac0c217e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8A5898CBCFF2411697DFD96F69162FF6@SatU205S5044> <8bce0fe80907220440m337ab5eai62c3128aac0c217e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0907220752v76234af1l47895f72fcc6eee2@mail.gmail.com> KMOX's site says of course that they're running that wonderful Overnight America show which they thought we'd love so much here in Boston... From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Wed Jul 22 14:50:43 2009 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (Doug Drown) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:50:43 -0400 Subject: Brother Stair on a second Boston-area signal? References: <8A5898CBCFF2411697DFD96F69162FF6@SatU205S5044> <8bce0fe80907220440m337ab5eai62c3128aac0c217e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0BC5D72C03D448B5965AB70613E501A1@DougDrown> Curious in Maine asks, Who on earth is this person you're alluding to? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:40 AM Subject: Re: Brother Stair on a second Boston-area signal? > Brother Stair is only listed from 12am to 6am Sundays, but the other days > on > the 1510 site don't list what is actually on in that time frame Monday > thru > Saturday. > > > Sincerely, > Paul B. Walker, Jr. > www.onairdj.com > www.facebook.com/onairdj > walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Dan.Strassberg > wrote: > >> I doubt whether KMOX is carrying "Brother" Stair's pay-for-play >> end-of-the-world rantings--at least not yet. Still, WBNW 1120 has a >> somewhat spotty record for going off the air for a couple of hours in >> a row every now and then--especially in the evenings, so I can't be >> absolutely certain that WBNW was the weak 1120 signal on which I heard >> Stair last evening. (AFAIK, Stair's overnight show continues from >> midnight to 6:00AM on WWZN 1510.) Maybe the chatter by supporters of >> the Progressive talk that runs on WWZN from 6:00AM to 7:00PM M-F has >> scared Stair into finding another station, or an additional station, >> in this area. The Save Boston's Progressive Talk e-mail list >> frequently carries items that suggest that the friends of the group >> are aiming to buy more of WWZN's air time and the group members sure >> do seem to have Stair's wild rantings in their sights. >> > From rac@gabrielmass.com Wed Jul 22 15:20:00 2009 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (rac@gabrielmass.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:20:00 -0400 Subject: Brother Stair on a second Boston-area signal? Message-ID: <20090722192036.8C8C2A880026@server3.gabrielmass.com> Ralph "Brother" Stair is a long-time radio preacher from SC in his 70s. And apparently a fallen preacher: information on rickross.com indicates that he pleaded guilty in 2004 in a fondling case involving members of a religious commune. With AM and shortwave outlets, he still has some worldwide following. You can find more about him at his Wikipedia article. --RC -----Original Message----- From: "Doug Drown" Subj: Re: Brother Stair on a second Boston-area signal? Date: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:50 pm Size: 1K To: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." ; "Dan.Strassberg" cc: Boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Curious in Maine asks, Who on earth is this person you're alluding to? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:40 AM Subject: Re: Brother Stair on a second Boston-area signal? > Brother Stair is only listed from 12am to 6am Sundays, but the other days > on > the 1510 site don't list what is actually on in that time frame Monday > thru > Saturday. > > > Sincerely, > Paul B. Walker, Jr. > www.onairdj.com > www.facebook.com/onairdj > walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Dan.Strassberg > wrote: > >> I doubt whether KMOX is carrying "Brother" Stair's pay-for-play >> end-of-the-world rantings--at least not yet. Still, WBNW 1120 has a >> somewhat spotty record for going off the air for a couple of hours in >> a row every now and then--especially in the evenings, so I can't be >> absolutely certain that WBNW was the weak 1120 signal on which I heard >> Stair last evening. (AFAIK, Stair's overnight show continues from >> midnight to 6:00AM on WWZN 1510.) Maybe the chatter by supporters of >> the Progressive talk that runs on WWZN from 6:00AM to 7:00PM M-F has >> scared Stair into finding another station, or an additional station, >> in this area. The Save Boston's Progressive Talk e-mail list >> frequently carries items that suggest that the friends of the group >> are aiming to buy more of WWZN's air time and the group members sure >> do seem to have Stair's wild rantings in their sights. >> > --- message truncated --- From lglavin@mail.com Wed Jul 22 15:10:52 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:10:52 -0500 Subject: Monica Crowley Weekday Show To Fold Message-ID: <20090722191052.E83DC326701@ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com> The trainwreck known as the Monica Crowley weekday-afternoon talk show has been mercifully put down by the Talk Radio Network. TRN claimed that the show was "successful" in spite of the fact that, like her predecessor Tammy Bruce, she hardly ever took any calls, perhaps due to A LACK OF LISTENERS. In any event, this is the second time that an extreme female right-winger has tanked in daily talk radio. And its local impact? WNSH-AM 1570, "Women's Talk Radio" in the female-named City of Beverly, MA, will have to find another Y-chromosome-free host for their afternoon schedule, inless they have to change their moniker after Monica exits. An obvious choice? Why Randi Rhodes, of course, syndicated by CCU! Not likely. We know Keating Willcox visits the B.R.I.G. Maybe he will have an announcement soon. Don't forget to check with Mike at Pit Stop Auto Repair, apparently WNSH's #1 advertiser (after WNSH itself); he may want to have some input. -- How Strong is Your Score? Click here to see yours for $0! By FreeCreditReport.com From mward@iname.com Wed Jul 22 15:40:36 2009 From: mward@iname.com (Mike Ward) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:40:36 -0400 Subject: Brother Stair on a second Boston-area signal? In-Reply-To: <0BC5D72C03D448B5965AB70613E501A1@DougDrown> References: <8A5898CBCFF2411697DFD96F69162FF6@SatU205S5044> <8bce0fe80907220440m337ab5eai62c3128aac0c217e@mail.gmail.com> <0BC5D72C03D448B5965AB70613E501A1@DougDrown> Message-ID: <4A676B34.7010205@iname.com> Doug Drown wrote: > Curious in Maine asks, Who on earth is this person you're alluding to? Brother R.G. Stair is a radio preacher out of South Carolina. In addition to buying overnight hours on many AM stations, he also buys time on U.S. commercial shortwave broadcasters. http://www.overcomerministry.org/content/view/346/95/ I don't see WBNW or WWZN on this list, but I may be missing them...it looks like a "live" embedded Google Calendar schedule... From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Jul 22 19:07:24 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:07:24 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Bill Cusack's passing -- just received from his brother Bob Message-ID: <20090722230747.4F115300E9@relay6.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> Our friend Len Zola asked me to pass this along to list-members who remember Bill's excellent career. >Len....I'm the bearer of sad news. My brother Bill passed on >Tuesday night at a nursing home in New Jersey. He had been in the >home for more than a year, suffering from Progressive Supra Nuclear >Palsy (PSNP). It's a neorological disease for which there is no >cure. He's being cremated in New Jersey, but a reception will be >held Monday morning at St, John's church on Main Street in Hingham. From rac@gabrielmass.com Wed Jul 22 23:52:06 2009 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:52:06 -0400 Subject: Monica Crowley Weekday Show To Fold In-Reply-To: <20090722191052.E83DC326701@ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20090722191052.E83DC326701@ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4A67DE66.3040500@gabrielmass.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: > > the female-named City of Beverly, MA Humph! Tell that to George Beverly Shea (who, wow, is 100 years old). --RC From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Jul 23 02:30:02 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:30:02 -0500 Subject: Monica Crowley Weekday Show To Fold Message-ID: <20090723063002.E3360905C43@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> I noticed that too; WNSH was running Jerry Doyle instead. You'd think he could run Sean Hannity, who is the second most popular host nationwide but maybe it costs too much or something One extreme right winger who doesn't tank is Laura Ingraham; and btw, Tammy Bruce claims to be a pro choice, openly gay, pro feminist--perhaps a moderate on some social issues. (See also TRN's Phil Hendrie.) I also don't think Keating would go for Randi Rhodes. I would expect it the same time Jeff Santos adds Sean Hannity to WWZN :) From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Thu Jul 23 12:39:16 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:39:16 -0400 Subject: Bill Cusack's passing -- just received from his brother Bob References: <20090722230747.4F115300E9@relay6.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <833FA72BD1DE477D9095C91276EC7E59@teddesktop> That is sad news. I worked with him and then Bill Hartman. The following was posted on this site in 2008 by Bud Yacomb outofthebusiness@gmail.com Sat Mar 15 19:12:50 EDT 2008 Win Baker left, I think to be President of the Group W Television stations, Yanoff took over TV and Bill Cusak took over radio. Cusak was married to McGannon's daughter and suddenly left the company. Bill Hartman took over and immediately shook things to the core -- BZ had fallen to second place behind Blair's WHDH, and Hartman told the staff he couldn't tolerate that they were running around acting like they were number one when they weren't. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: Fwd: Bill Cusack's passing -- just received from his brother Bob > Our friend Len Zola asked me to pass this along to list-members who > remember Bill's excellent career. > >>Len....I'm the bearer of sad news. My brother Bill passed on Tuesday >>night at a nursing home in New Jersey. He had been in the home for more >>than a year, suffering from Progressive Supra Nuclear Palsy (PSNP). It's >>a neorological disease for which there is no cure. He's being cremated in >>New Jersey, but a reception will be held Monday morning at St, John's >>church on Main Street in Hingham. > > From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Thu Jul 23 14:16:26 2009 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WCCC-FM (was Re: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN) Message-ID: <374038.21386.qm@web50810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello, Bud, WCCC-FM 106.9 comes in just fine in Westfield, it always has. It's only 10 miles west of Springfield and less than 35 miles North from Hartford. The AM on the other hand was always weak, and nobody listened to it. But if you had a decent AM radio, you could hear it somewhat. But the AM was always ID'ed on both AM and FM. But in answer to your comments, most people on campus at WSC back in '79 listened to either WCCC-FM 106.9 or WAAF 107.3 (which today 'AAF no longer covers the area after their transmitter site moved). In fact, virtually every Hartford station (Class B FM) like WDRC-FM, WTIC-FM, WHCN-FM comes in fine in Amherst. In fact, I was driving to Amherst two weeks ago and listened to WDRC-FM 102.9 from Palmer, MA all the way to Amherst and never lost it. Got 'DRC-FM in full Stereo all the way up UMass Amherst. Sounds to me like you might have a receiver or antenna problem. BTW: I lived in Western Massachusetts from '77-'80 and 'CCC-FM was a favorite of mine. And I've been in this businesss for 32 years, so I DO know what stations cover where. 73. Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Bud Torchia wrote: > From: Bud Torchia > Subject: RE: WCCC > To: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com > Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 5:46 AM > Quoting > your posting on Boston radio group: > "Yup. It is the > same WCCC you remember as a student at UMass. I was > > a regular listener to CCC while I went to school at > Westfield State > > College back in in the 70's." > > My comment: > If you attended Westfield State which is west of > Springfield, and WCCC-AM can just > > about cover the metro Hartford Market, and WCCC-FM can > barely cover Hartford County, how could > > you have possibly listened to either station in Westfield, > Massachusetts! I have my doubts as well if > > Joe Ross could hear either station In Amherst as well. > > I never have heard of anyone getting the WCCC carrier up > the Connecticut river valley that well. > > > Bud Torchia (who, up until five years ago lived in West > Hartford.) > > > > > > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Mon, 7/20/09, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > From: A. Joseph Ross > Subject: Re: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN > To: "Ted Larsen" > Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" > Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 3:44 PM > On 20 Jul 2009 Ted Larsen wrote: > > > Seeing WCCC certainly brings back some long forgotten > memories. I was > > dating my future wife who lived in NYC and I was > always driving my VW > > Beetle from Boston to the Big Apple when the station > was all classical > > which I liked. Their format was called "The Hot 100." > When CCC was out > > of range I'd switch to WCBS for all-news. > > Wasn't there a WCCC in Hartford in the mid-1960s?? > Seems to me I > heard an FM station with that or similar call letters when > I was at > UMass then. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ???617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700? ? ? ? > ? ? Fax: 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004? ? ? ? > ???http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Thu Jul 23 14:46:02 2009 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WCCC-FM (was Re: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN) Message-ID: <192918.78298.qm@web50812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> BTW: Here's the FCC coverage area for WCCC-FM http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM580030.html Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Thu, 7/23/09, Peter Q. George wrote: > From: Peter Q. George > Subject: WCCC-FM (was Re: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN) > To: "Ted Larsen"torchia@technologist.com"" , "A. Joseph Ross" > Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" > Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 2:16 PM > Hello, Bud, > > WCCC-FM 106.9 comes in just fine in Westfield, it always > has.? It's only 10 miles west of Springfield and less > than 35 miles North from Hartford.? The AM on the other > hand was always weak, and nobody listened to it.? But > if you had a decent AM radio, you could hear it somewhat. > But the AM was always ID'ed on both AM and FM. But in answer > to your comments, most people on campus at WSC back in '79 > listened to either WCCC-FM 106.9 or WAAF 107.3 (which today > 'AAF no longer covers the area after their transmitter site > moved). > > In fact, virtually every Hartford station (Class B FM) like > WDRC-FM, WTIC-FM, WHCN-FM comes in fine in Amherst.? In > fact, I was driving to Amherst two weeks ago and listened to > WDRC-FM 102.9 from Palmer, MA all the way to Amherst and > never lost it.? Got 'DRC-FM in full Stereo all the way > up UMass Amherst.? Sounds to me like you might have a > receiver or antenna problem.??? > > BTW: I lived in Western Massachusetts from '77-'80 and > 'CCC-FM was a favorite of mine. And I've been in this > businesss for 32 years, so I DO know what stations cover > where. 73. > > ? ? > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) > Whitman, Massachusetts > "Scanning the bands since 1967" > > radiojunkie3@yahoo.com > *********************************************************** > > > --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Bud Torchia > wrote: > > > From: Bud Torchia > > Subject: RE: WCCC > > To: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com > > Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 5:46 AM > > Quoting > > your posting on Boston radio group: > >???"Yup.? It is the > > same WCCC you remember as a student at UMass.? I > was > > > > a regular listener to CCC while I went to school at > > Westfield State > > > > College back in in the 70's." > > > > My comment: > > If you attended Westfield State which is west of > > Springfield, and WCCC-AM can just > > > > about cover the metro Hartford Market, and WCCC-FM > can > > barely cover Hartford County,? how could > > > > you have possibly listened to either station in > Westfield, > > Massachusetts!? I have my doubts as well if > > > > Joe Ross could hear either station In Amherst as > well. > > > > I never have heard of anyone getting the WCCC carrier > up > > the Connecticut river valley that well. > > > > > > Bud Torchia (who, up until five years ago lived in > West > > Hartford.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) > Whitman, Massachusetts > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ???"Scanning the > bands since 1967" > radiojunkie1@yahoo.com > radiojunkie3@yahoo.com > *********************************************************** > > > --- On Mon, 7/20/09, A. Joseph Ross > wrote: > > > From: A. Joseph Ross > > Subject: Re: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN > > To: "Ted Larsen" > > Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" > > Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 3:44 PM > > On 20 Jul 2009 Ted Larsen wrote: > > > > > Seeing WCCC certainly brings back some long > forgotten > > memories. I was > > > dating my future wife who lived in NYC and I was > > always driving my VW > > > Beetle from Boston to the Big Apple when the > station > > was all classical > > > which I liked. Their format was called "The Hot > 100." > > When CCC was out > > > of range I'd switch to WCBS for all-news. > >? > > Wasn't there a WCCC in Hartford in the mid-1960s?? > > Seems to me I > > heard an FM station with that or similar call letters > when > > I was at > > UMass then. > > > > -- > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D.? ? ? ? ? > > ? ? ? ???617.367.0468 > > 92 State Street, Suite 700? ? ? ? > > ? ? Fax: 617.507.7856 > > Boston, MA 02109-2004? ? ? ? > > ???http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > > > > > > > From Joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jul 23 16:51:55 2009 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:51:55 -0400 Subject: WCCC-FM (was Re: Howie Carr remembers the heyday of WBCN) In-Reply-To: <192918.78298.qm@web50812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <192918.78298.qm@web50812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A68CD6B.20945.6979C5@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 23 Jul 2009 Peter Q. George wrote: > BTW: Here's the FCC coverage area for WCCC-FM > > http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM580030.html The map shows the signal covering Northampton, but not Amherst. I haven't listened since the 1960s, but I remember that I could get it fine in the dorm at UMass. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dave@skywaves.net Thu Jul 23 23:24:39 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:24:39 -0400 Subject: WRGB Analog Audio on 87.9 References: <4fc429770907191807v497adffeif962b5594828c044@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, all- I drove through the Albany area Monday around 6PM. On 87.9, I found an audio signal that appeared to be the WRGB "CBS6" newscast. It was ratty for much of the way around from Rotterdam to Selkirk, but pretty solid from the WGY tower (I-84) to Exit 23 (Albany South). So I guess it was really WRGB transmitting an analog signal on 87.9. -d From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Fri Jul 24 00:08:48 2009 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:08:48 -0400 Subject: Changes At WBZ Message-ID: <4A6933D0.4060005@ttlc.net> WBZ has changed their approach to the TOH ID. A big-guy-voiced ID for WBZ, WBZ-HD & WODS-HD3, Boston @ ~ :58. Then, the minimally produced TOH News Opener with positioners NewsRadio & WBZ.com. The bumper out of the after-sports spot has changed completely and is more orchestrated. Has anybody noticed a very uncomfortable Mike Macklin doing mid-day news on WBZ? He's mispronounced reporters' names and completely spaced on the name of the talent in the pre-recorded sportscast he was intro-ing. He's also quite uncomfortable doing the Subaru Dealers of New England All-Wheel Drive Traffic On The Threes. From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Jul 23 23:42:28 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:42:28 -0400 Subject: WRGB Analog Audio on 87.9 In-Reply-To: References: <4fc429770907191807v497adffeif962b5594828c044@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 11:24 PM -0400 7/23/09, Dave Doherty wrote: >Hi, all- > >I drove through the Albany area Monday around 6PM. On 87.9, I found >an audio signal that appeared to be the WRGB "CBS6" newscast. It was >ratty for much of the way around from Rotterdam to Selkirk, but >pretty solid from the WGY tower (I-84) to Exit 23 (Albany South). So >I guess it was really WRGB transmitting an analog signal on 87.9. > I was camping in Catskill, NY (about 30 miles south of Albany) last weekend, and I was unable to hear anything on 87.9. I guess they are not using much power for that part of their signal. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From m_carney@yahoo.com Fri Jul 24 06:21:54 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Changes At WBZ In-Reply-To: <4A6933D0.4060005@ttlc.net> References: <4A6933D0.4060005@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <411648.50434.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Roger said: Has anybody noticed a very uncomfortable Mike Macklin doing mid-day news on WBZ? He's mispronounced reporters' names and completely spaced on the name of the talent in the pre-recorded sportscast he was intro-ing. He's also quite uncomfortable doing the Subaru Dealers of New England All-Wheel Drive Traffic On The Threes. Yes. He was doing a Sunday shift a couple of weeks ago and just couldn't read the copy. It brings up the issue of whether it's better to hire former TV guys just because they understand what an open mic is or someone with less experience but what they have is in radio. TV is not radio and Macklin wasn't an anchor in any case. From TVNETDUDE@aol.com Fri Jul 24 14:20:17 2009 From: TVNETDUDE@aol.com (TVNETDUDE@aol.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:20:17 EDT Subject: Changes At WBZ Message-ID: In a message dated 7/24/2009 12:03:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, boston-radio-interest-request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org writes: >>Has anybody noticed a very uncomfortable Mike Macklin doing mid-day news on WBZ? He's mispronounced reporters' names and completely spaced on the name of the talent in the pre-recorded sportscast he was intro-ing. He's also quite uncomfortable doing the Subaru Dealers of New England All-Wheel Drive Traffic On The Threes.<< >>Yes. He was doing a Sunday shift a couple of weeks ago and just couldn't read the copy. It brings up the issue of whether it's better to hire former TV guys just because they understand what an open mic is or someone with less experience but what they have is in radio. TV is not radio and Macklin wasn't an anchor in any case.<< Mike Macklin was a radio guy long before he was a TV guy. I worked with him at WCGY and WCCM his last week before he left for TV. Mike Hemeon **************A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377105x1201454426/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgI D=62&bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) From m_carney@yahoo.com Fri Jul 24 14:51:59 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Changes At WBZ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <630230.27610.qm@web53302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Thanks for the correction - I didn't realize that. Hopefully he'll settle into the role. ________________________________ From: "TVNETDUDE@aol.com" To: boston-radio-interest@tsornin.bostonradio.org Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 2:20:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Changes At WBZ In a message dated 7/24/2009 12:03:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,? boston-radio-interest-request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org writes: >>Has anybody noticed a very uncomfortable Mike Macklin doing? mid-day news on WBZ? He's mispronounced reporters' names and completely? spaced on the name of the talent in the pre-recorded sportscast he was? intro-ing.? He's also quite uncomfortable doing the Subaru Dealers of? New England All-Wheel Drive Traffic On The? Threes.<< >>Yes. He was doing a Sunday shift a couple? of weeks ago and just couldn't read the copy. It brings up the issue of? whether it's better to hire former TV guys just because they understand what? an open mic is or someone with less experience but what they have is in radio.? TV is not radio and Macklin wasn't an anchor in any? case.<< Mike Macklin was a radio guy long before he was a TV guy. I worked with him at WCGY and WCCM his last week before he left for TV. Mike Hemeon **************A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377105x1201454426/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgI D=62&bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Sat Jul 25 03:19:59 2009 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:19:59 -0400 Subject: BZ Repeating Newscasts? Message-ID: <4A6AB21F.7030804@ttlc.net> Friday tonight (7/24) at 11:06 pm, the pre-recorded local portion of the news sounded exactly like a repeat of Thursday night's 11:06 pm pre-recorded local portion. Jack Williams did a story about Prof. Gates vs. Sgt. Crowley. He mentioned Obama's "stupidily" comment made "last night." IIRC, that comment was made at his press conference on Wednesday night 7/22. (CNN video dated 7/22) Jack also made the same distracted, vocal mini-fumble/stretch when announcing the weather forecast that he made on Thursday night. From rac@gabrielmass.com Sat Jul 25 10:38:14 2009 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:38:14 -0400 Subject: converter boxen Message-ID: <4A6B18D6.6030901@gabrielmass.com> Apparently the $40 coupon program is being ended this month, so late adopters may as well order now: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-digitaltv25-2009jul25,0,4298951.story?track=rss I'm a little curious about seeing how well digital OTA TV works, but hey, I don't watch OTA TV already. --RC From wollman@bimajority.org Sat Jul 25 10:45:32 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:45:32 -0400 Subject: BZ Repeating Newscasts? In-Reply-To: <4A6AB21F.7030804@ttlc.net> References: <4A6AB21F.7030804@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <19051.6796.951882.283177@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Friday tonight (7/24) at 11:06 pm, the pre-recorded local portion of the > news sounded exactly like a repeat of Thursday night's 11:06 pm > pre-recorded local portion. My guess would be that these are recorded by the voice talent and stored on a file server with the same file name every night. It would then be possible, if Jack mistyped (or misclicked on) the name, for the old newscast not to be erased, and if nobody looks closely at the timestamps on the newscasts, they won't know it was the wrong one until it plays. -GAWollman From dwcole@comcast.net Sat Jul 25 10:51:39 2009 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:51:39 -0400 Subject: BZ Repeating Newscasts? References: <4A6AB21F.7030804@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <29DB9F29CDB049E097B4636C98EF31BB@yourw92p4bhlzg> Lately I've noticed several instances of old sportscasts running during their midmorning news. The easiest solution, if their system allows it, is to put killdates on an item. It saves a lot of grief. Dan C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kirk" To: Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 3:19 AM Subject: BZ Repeating Newscasts? > Friday tonight (7/24) at 11:06 pm, the pre-recorded local portion of the > news sounded exactly like a repeat of Thursday night's 11:06 pm > pre-recorded local portion. > Jack Williams did a story about Prof. Gates vs. Sgt. Crowley. He > mentioned Obama's "stupidily" comment made "last night." IIRC, that > comment was made at his press conference on Wednesday night 7/22. (CNN > video dated 7/22) > > Jack also made the same distracted, vocal mini-fumble/stretch when > announcing the weather forecast that he made on Thursday night. > > From gjspatola@q.com Sat Jul 25 12:28:48 2009 From: gjspatola@q.com (Glenn and Judy Spatola) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:28:48 -0700 Subject: Changes At WBZ Message-ID: I worked with Mike Macklin during my time at WCCM-WCGY, which began in 1973 and ended in 1978 when I left to relocate to Worcester. I believe he stayed in radio for a while and worked for the old WJIB in Boston, then went to TV later. Mike, when did you work at WCCM-WCGY? Glenn Spatola Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:20:17 EDT From: TVNETDUDE@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Changes At WBZ To: boston-radio-interest@tsornin.bostonradio.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 7/24/2009 12:03:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, boston-radio-interest-request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org writes: >>Has anybody noticed a very uncomfortable Mike Macklin doing mid-day news on WBZ? He's mispronounced reporters' names and completely spaced on the name of the talent in the pre-recorded sportscast he was intro-ing. He's also quite uncomfortable doing the Subaru Dealers of New England All-Wheel Drive Traffic On The Threes.<< >>Yes. He was doing a Sunday shift a couple of weeks ago and just couldn't read the copy. It brings up the issue of whether it's better to hire former TV guys just because they understand what an open mic is or someone with less experience but what they have is in radio. TV is not radio and Macklin wasn't an anchor in any case.<< Mike Macklin was a radio guy long before he was a TV guy. I worked with him at WCGY and WCCM his last week before he left for TV. Mike Hemeon From hykker@wildblue.net Sat Jul 25 21:20:11 2009 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:20:11 -0400 Subject: BZ Repeating Newscasts? In-Reply-To: <29DB9F29CDB049E097B4636C98EF31BB@yourw92p4bhlzg> References: <4A6AB21F.7030804@ttlc.net> <29DB9F29CDB049E097B4636C98EF31BB@yourw92p4bhlzg> Message-ID: <4a6baf69.1408c00a.4d4e.53db@mx.google.com> At 10:51 AM 7/25/2009, Dan C wrote: >Lately I've noticed several instances of old sportscasts running >during their midmorning news. The easiest solution, if their system >allows it, is to put killdates on an item. It saves a lot of grief. I hear waay too many screw ups like this, or the anchor firing the wrong event (ie-intro'ing the weather & playing a promo). No excuse for this on a major market station. Maybe no one cares, I've been hearing this for years. From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Jul 25 21:27:16 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:27:16 -0500 Subject: A broadcaster with no ego Message-ID: <4fc429770907251827h291d2777oa9f5c3471e4a307a@mail.gmail.com> This is a nice story about a baseball broadcaster who has some New England roots. Andy Freed who does play by play for the Tampa Rays was the Pawtucket announcer for a few years ending in 2004 when he took the Tampa job. He also did the Red Sox AA games in Trenton moving to Pawtucket when the Red Sox moved to Maine He gave up the chance to call the ending of a perfect game because his partner used to work White Sox radio. Freed is rumored to be the front runner to replace Joe Castigleone who is said to be close to retirement. Scott this might be a nice story to pass along in the newsletter given Andy's roots http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/jul/25/sp-wills-makes-call-after-freeds-selfless-act/sports-rays/ From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sat Jul 25 22:27:13 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:27:13 -0500 Subject: BZ Repeating Newscasts? In-Reply-To: <4a6baf69.1408c00a.4d4e.53db@mx.google.com> References: <4A6AB21F.7030804@ttlc.net> <29DB9F29CDB049E097B4636C98EF31BB@yourw92p4bhlzg> <4a6baf69.1408c00a.4d4e.53db@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80907251927n2d281793i94dc4484355e20b1@mail.gmail.com> How often does stuff like that happen? Firing a promo instead of the weather or playing the wrong report? I think some people are overly critical.. sure, expect great talent, but everyone is human and makes mistakes.. I know I've made plenty here, and my boss at the station doesn't get mad or even say anything if the wrong weather or newscast plays because he knows I care enough to see that it doesn't happen a second time -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:20 PM, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > At 10:51 AM 7/25/2009, Dan C wrote: > >> Lately I've noticed several instances of old sportscasts running during >> their midmorning news. The easiest solution, if their system allows it, is >> to put killdates on an item. It saves a lot of grief. >> > > > I hear waay too many screw ups like this, or the anchor firing the wrong > event (ie-intro'ing the weather & playing a promo). No excuse for this on a > major market station. Maybe no one cares, I've been hearing this for years. > > From kvahey@comcast.net Sun Jul 26 00:57:26 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:57:26 -0500 Subject: BZ Repeating Newscasts? In-Reply-To: <4a6baf69.1408c00a.4d4e.53db@mx.google.com> References: <4A6AB21F.7030804@ttlc.net> <29DB9F29CDB049E097B4636C98EF31BB@yourw92p4bhlzg> <4a6baf69.1408c00a.4d4e.53db@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770907252157y29a66b79h1011625316747c0f@mail.gmail.com> I was amused when WBBM earlier today ran an Accuweather meant for KDKA. BZ has been screwing up ever since they moved radio to the left side of 1170 into the TV newsroom. I thought it was a software problem but after 10 years there is something else at play. From kvahey@comcast.net Sun Jul 26 03:21:31 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:21:31 -0500 Subject: RIP Warren Doolin Message-ID: <4fc429770907260021h6aecaf76i931b436cc43c41be@mail.gmail.com> I just learned of the sudden passing of Warren Doolin who died playing tennis last Monday at the age of 71. Warren was a news cameraman for WCVB and before that WNAC and also a Red Sox season ticket holder since 1968. If anything major happened at Fenway channel 5 would send Warren sometimes paging him to meet the van even when he was at the game as a fan. In 1986 he went to a pay phone and told the assignment desk you better get someone to Fenway quick as history could be made. It was the Roger 20K game. I would get his tickets from time to time and he gave me his seats for a game on October 2, 1978 because he could not go or work because it was Yom Kippur. When I met him after sundown at the old Newbury Steak House we downed a few....... :( He was in Shea Stadium on that awful Saturday night and had to go into the locker room twice. He was in setting up for the celebration that never happened and then had to go back in afterwards. Mike Lynch made sure he was in St Louis 5 years ago and was on the field and locker room. WCVB made him retire 3 years ago and it killed him. From gjspatola@q.com Sun Jul 26 10:41:41 2009 From: gjspatola@q.com (Glenn and Judy Spatola) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:41:41 -0700 Subject: CORRECTION - Re: Re: Changes At WBZ Message-ID: CORRECTION: I'm sorry. It was Chris Haskell at WCCM-WCGY who left to go to the old WJIB radio in Boston. Mike Macklin did indeed leave WCCM-WCGY to go to television. I had worked with both when I was with Curt Gowdy Broadcasting from '73 to '78. I apologize for the error / misinformation. This should clear it up. Glenn Spatola ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenn and Judy Spatola To: boston radio Cc: TVNETDUDE@aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: Re: Changes At WBZ I worked with Mike Macklin during my time at WCCM-WCGY, which began in 1973 and ended in 1978 when I left to relocate to Worcester. I believe he stayed in radio for a while and worked for the old WJIB in Boston, then went to TV later. Mike, when did you work at WCCM-WCGY? Glenn Spatola Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:20:17 EDT From: TVNETDUDE@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Changes At WBZ To: boston-radio-interest@tsornin.bostonradio.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 7/24/2009 12:03:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, boston-radio-interest-request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org writes: >>Has anybody noticed a very uncomfortable Mike Macklin doing mid-day news on WBZ? He's mispronounced reporters' names and completely spaced on the name of the talent in the pre-recorded sportscast he was intro-ing. He's also quite uncomfortable doing the Subaru Dealers of New England All-Wheel Drive Traffic On The Threes.<< >>Yes. He was doing a Sunday shift a couple of weeks ago and just couldn't read the copy. It brings up the issue of whether it's better to hire former TV guys just because they understand what an open mic is or someone with less experience but what they have is in radio. TV is not radio and Macklin wasn't an anchor in any case.<< Mike Macklin was a radio guy long before he was a TV guy. I worked with him at WCGY and WCCM his last week before he left for TV. Mike Hemeon From kvahey@comcast.net Sun Jul 26 11:24:26 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:24:26 -0500 Subject: RIP Warren Doolin In-Reply-To: <0KNE00BGJ1UIL8N4@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> References: <4fc429770907260021h6aecaf76i931b436cc43c41be@mail.gmail.com> <0KNE00BGJ1UIL8N4@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <4fc429770907260824l5893ead5p7c1a845415d17c1a@mail.gmail.com> I just received a message off list from Stanley Forman who worked with Warren at WCVB and wanted to clarify the reason he took the buyout. I want to make it clear Warren loved WCVB and all three ownwrships of the station. Stanley Forman wrote I just read your description of Warren and it was wonderful except your last line about CVB making him retire.??I was a very good friend of Warren and spoke at his funeral on Thursday and I take exception with your last line.? It was time for Warren to go and he knew and resisted for a couple of years.?He went on vacation the Summer of the tunnel collapse, got poison ivy and could not return or maybe returned for a few weeks.? He just could not do it anymore.??I take exception to anyone who knocks the company that we all have be able to support our families and a life style from and it is certainly better than the other stations in Boston. On 7/26/09, Joe Brown Digital Photography wrote: > At 03:21 AM 7/26/2009, you wrote: >>I just learned of the sudden passing of Warren Doolin who died playing >>tennis last Monday at the age of 71. > > Kevin - > Thank you for sharing that with us. > > Warren was a friend of mine - I am a news photographer also. > > He was buried in Sharon Memorial Park the other day and it was a > beautiful service with many in attendance including Chet Curtis, and > Richard Serino and whole cadre of folks from Boston EMS. > > He will be missed. > > joe brown > > PS - Nat Whittemore from Channel 4 retired last week after 57 years > of chasing news with a camera. I only hope I can do the same. From nostaticatall@charter.net Sun Jul 26 13:47:27 2009 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:47:27 -0400 Subject: BZ Repeating Newscasts? In-Reply-To: <4fc429770907252157y29a66b79h1011625316747c0f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A6AB21F.7030804@ttlc.net> <29DB9F29CDB049E097B4636C98EF31BB@yourw92p4bhlzg> <4a6baf69.1408c00a.4d4e.53db@mx.google.com> <4fc429770907252157y29a66b79h1011625316747c0f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46F29766-1576-4C4D-B47D-FAC2EC830CFB@charter.net> It's extremely rare for this to happen on WCBS-AM or WINS. I've heard a couple misfires on KYW over the years, but it's rare there too. It's a normal occurrence on WBZ. I've heard it's due to their digital playback/automation system. I'm sorry, but there's no excuse for this in a top 10 market. Spend the money and fix it, if that's the problem. It sounds bush league. -Dave Tomm On Jul 26, 2009, at 12:57 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > I was amused when WBBM earlier today ran an Accuweather meant for > KDKA. > > BZ has been screwing up ever since they moved radio to the left side > of 1170 into the TV newsroom. I thought it was a software problem but > after 10 years there is something else at play. From TVNETDUDE@aol.com Sun Jul 26 16:09:12 2009 From: TVNETDUDE@aol.com (TVNETDUDE@aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:09:12 EDT Subject: Message-ID: In a message dated 7/26/2009 9:03:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, boston-radio-interest-request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org writes: Mike, when did you work at WCCM-WCGY? 1976 or 1977. I saw a Schafer 903 automation system and thought the end was near for radio. I was wrong of course but went into TV anyway. Before that I worked in NH for WEMJ in Laconia. Mike **************A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323048x1201367271/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgI D=62&bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Jul 26 17:51:48 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:51:48 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Break-In at NEMS Headquarters Message-ID: <20090726215215.1311117FB8B@relay11.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> I don't know how many of you know Alan Lewis, or his tireless efforts to preserve the history of New England's music scene. He just sent me and several other of his friends an e-mail about his home/office being broken into. I've known him for years and his is a shoestring operation where he truly does try to do more with less. If you are not familiar with his site, it's here: http://www.geocities.com/nemsbook/home.htm Best way to reach him is via e-mail, since he can't even afford a phone right now. His direct e-mail is And with Garrett's kind permission, here is a portion of the e-mail Alan sent. If any BRI list-members can help him, I'd appreciate it. This is an honest guy and he has helped numerous musicians over the years. Perhaps some of us can help him, even if it is just to drop him an e-mail and let him know you've been through it (I certainly have, and it was no fun at all). Alan wrote: >My place has been broken into. > >The local police have speculated that the person who did the >stealing knew exactly what he or she wanted, went straight for it, >and made off in a hurry: probably when I was out jogging. We have >had a security problem at my building, and I have been trying, >without success so far, to get the responsible party to fix it. > >It will probably get fixed, now that it is too late. > >My wallet was stolen, with cash and all other contents, and someone >used or at the very least tried to use my debit card. Today being >Sunday, I cannot learn any more about this until Monday. Access to >my bank account had already been blocked by the time I knew I needed >to report this loss. I've a feeling this will prove to be a "good >news and bad news" situation, as to my card having already been >deactivated. Good, at least, that access to the account was blocked. >Probably bad news in all other regards. > >Nothing of this nature has ever happened to me before, and I really >don't know the ropes. But it could not possibly have happened at a >worse time from a financial point of view, and I am going to need to >learn the ropes in a huge hurry. > >If anyone doesn't just believe, but definitely knows for a fact of >an operation that helps musicians in the case of an unanticipated >calamity and might also consider a music organization such as ours, >or if anyone even knows for sure of a charitable organization that >can help with life's rough spots which otherwise fall through the >cracks (a charity of the "Miscellaneous" category), please e-mail us >at > >What I mean by this is that there are organizations that provide >short-term help if one is dislocated from home by, say, a fire or a >flood, but this situation I am facing clearly does not fall into >that degree of severity. It is, nonetheless, a very real, immediate >problem that must be dealt with. > >It is a long and perfectly dull story, but I should also add that I >do not currently have telephone service. I do all my communicating >by way of the Internet, postal mail, and in person: mostly the Internet. > >We have posted news before of musical instruments being stolen, some >of which have even been recovered. But you can't imagine how much I >hate bringing this up, in my own case, having spent a lifetime, as >my father once said of my mother, trying to be as self-sufficient as >possible. But I have never faced a situation at all like this. >(Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont, where I have lived, are not >exactly high-crime states - except for since Noon yesterday.) I am >really quite clueless, and it is not likely I will get an idea about >what further quick, short-term options there may be unless I ask. >The people at the police and the lost/stolen bank-card office could >tell me no more. If you have really concrete ideas and e-mail >addresses to go along with them, please let me know. > >You have my apologies that this message runs on so. With any luck, >there will never be another occasion. From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jul 27 01:11:15 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:11:15 -0400 Subject: BZ Repeating Newscasts? In-Reply-To: <4A6AB21F.7030804@ttlc.net> References: <4A6AB21F.7030804@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <4A6D36F3.12985.C65501@joe.attorneyross.com> On 25 Jul 2009 at 3:19, Roger Kirk wrote: > Friday tonight (7/24) at 11:06 pm, the pre-recorded local portion of > the news sounded exactly like a repeat of Thursday night's 11:06 pm > pre-recorded local portion. Seems to me I've seen a lot of repetition on NECN, including stories that I thought were old news yesterday. And on the same subject, I thought it rather odd that in an early report on the incident involving Professor Gates and the CAMBRIDGE police, the reporter doing a standup was at the BOSTON police headquarters. I've long thought that many standups are silly. They supposedly give the impression that the station or network is on top of the news by having a reporter on the spot, but sometimes it's just stupid. I'm reminded of the reporter doing a standup live on the 11:00 PM news in front of a closed Brookline District Courthouse about the Salvi arraignment that morning. Now we have an irrelevant standup in front of some other city's police headquarters. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Jul 27 10:51:07 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:51:07 -0500 Subject: BZ Repeating Newscasts? Message-ID: <20090727145107.CFB9A905C43@ws1-5a.us4.outblaze.com> >>the reporter doing a standup was at the BOSTON police headquarters. On Fox News Channel (IIRC) after the police union's news conference on Friday, the anchor came back on and said, "Wow, things are getting hot over in Beantown!" Uh, that would be Cambridge, sir, not "Beantown" and for that matter I don't know if I'm too crazy about that nickname for Boston (much as a friend of mine, orig. from Chicago, isn't crazy about 'the Windy City', esp. since it was allegedly inspired by windy POLITICIANS but I digress). The bean companies all moved out years ago, didn't they? Oh well, people say in Boston even beans do it...But this is Cambridge, a different city in a different county. --- "Goodnight Beantown"--1983 sitcom about a newscast at a Boston TV station From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Mon Jul 27 15:24:15 2009 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:24:15 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] WHAT!!! WNSH 2 = WESX!?!?! Message-ID: <4A6DFEDF.20405@Gmail.com> From WNSH's website, > WNSH AM 1570 is changing its format as of Tuesday July 21, 2009, > We will be simulcasting the signal of AM 1230 WESX http://www.wnsh.com This was supposed to have happened last week, but so far nothing has changed (right now Jerry Doyle is on). Keating, how could you?!? P=) ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 16:03:36 2009 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:03:36 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] WHAT!!! WNSH 2 = WESX!?!?! References: <4A6DFEDF.20405@Gmail.com> Message-ID: > From WNSH's website, > > > WNSH AM 1570 is changing its format as of Tuesday July 21, 2009, > > We will be simulcasting the signal of AM 1230 WESX > > http://www.wnsh.com Why? Is WNSH doing so badly businesswise? Was the TX upgrade that expensive? Is WESX purchasing the time? D From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Jul 27 17:18:54 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:18:54 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] WHAT!!! WNSH 2 = WESX!?!?! References: <4A6DFEDF.20405@Gmail.com> Message-ID: <2967B9A3829A49DEAA3B3AA567C8A5A2@SatU205S5044> So WESX will get back all of that great daytime coverage it had before it moved out of Marblehead. WNSH could still move there if the tower still stands. The top 30 or so feet could be skirted and detuned to electrically shorten the tower for use at 1570. With something like 5 kW from the old WESX Marblehead site, WNSH could get as good coverage as it currently has running 30 kW from that solid-rock site at Endicott College, which is arguably the world's worst AM site. Even if WNSH had to remain a Class D (remember, WPEP was a Class B), I believe that that operation would also enable WNSH to substantially increase its night power. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" To: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:24 PM Subject: [B-R-I] WHAT!!! WNSH 2 = WESX!?!?! > From WNSH's website, > > > WNSH AM 1570 is changing its format as of Tuesday July 21, 2009, > > We will be simulcasting the signal of AM 1230 WESX > > http://www.wnsh.com > > This was supposed to have happened last week, but so far nothing has > changed (right now Jerry Doyle is on). > Keating, how could you?!? P=) > > ~Kaimbridge~ > > ----- > Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge > > ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Mon Jul 27 17:26:33 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:26:33 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] WHAT!!! WNSH 2 = WESX!?!?! In-Reply-To: <2967B9A3829A49DEAA3B3AA567C8A5A2@SatU205S5044> References: <4A6DFEDF.20405@Gmail.com> <2967B9A3829A49DEAA3B3AA567C8A5A2@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80907271426y5bd8f0b5iae0b59360579317b@mail.gmail.com> WPEP was a B? It had way less then 250 W at night from a mere 1/4 wave tower. Paul On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > So WESX will get back all of that great daytime coverage it had before > it moved out of Marblehead. WNSH could still move there if the tower > still stands. The top 30 or so feet could be skirted and detuned to > electrically shorten the tower for use at 1570. With something like 5 > kW from the old WESX Marblehead site, WNSH could get as good coverage > as it currently has running 30 kW from that solid-rock site at > Endicott College, which is arguably the world's worst AM site. Even if > WNSH had to remain a Class D (remember, WPEP was a Class B), I believe > that that operation would also enable WNSH to substantially increase > its night power. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" < > Kaimbridge@gmail.com> > To: "Boston Radio Interest" > > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:24 PM > Subject: [B-R-I] WHAT!!! WNSH 2 = WESX!?!?! > > > > From WNSH's website, >> >> > WNSH AM 1570 is changing its format as of Tuesday July 21, 2009, >> > We will be simulcasting the signal of AM 1230 WESX >> >> http://www.wnsh.com >> >> This was supposed to have happened last week, but so far nothing has >> changed (right now Jerry Doyle is on). >> Keating, how could you?!? P=) >> >> ~Kaimbridge~ >> >> ----- >> Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge >> >> ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** >> >> > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Jul 27 17:40:05 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:40:05 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] WHAT!!! WNSH 2 = WESX!?!?! References: <4A6DFEDF.20405@Gmail.com> <2967B9A3829A49DEAA3B3AA567C8A5A2@SatU205S5044> <8bce0fe80907271426y5bd8f0b5iae0b59360579317b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1799EAECEC474F33B2D1406D3479F0F3@SatU205S5044> Nope, WPEP had a LITTLE less than 250W (224W, if memory serves) from a tower substantially taller than 1/4 wave (137 degrees, I believe). The night RMS was more than the Class D night maximum of 141.85 mV/m @ 1 km. That bought WPEP Class B status and with it, nighttime protection from co-channel stations (the most important of which, by far, would have been CFAV). Dunno if the FCC waived the Class B requirement for NIF coverage of at least 80% of the population of the CoL. Since the tower was inside the Taunton city limits, such a waiver might not have been necessary, however. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" ; "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [B-R-I] WHAT!!! WNSH 2 = WESX!?!?! WPEP was a B? It had way less then 250 W at night from a mere 1/4 wave tower. Paul On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > So WESX will get back all of that great daytime coverage it had > before > it moved out of Marblehead. WNSH could still move there if the tower > still stands. The top 30 or so feet could be skirted and detuned to > electrically shorten the tower for use at 1570. With something like > 5 > kW from the old WESX Marblehead site, WNSH could get as good > coverage > as it currently has running 30 kW from that solid-rock site at > Endicott College, which is arguably the world's worst AM site. Even > if > WNSH had to remain a Class D (remember, WPEP was a Class B), I > believe > that that operation would also enable WNSH to substantially increase > its night power. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" < > Kaimbridge@gmail.com> > To: "Boston Radio Interest" > > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:24 PM > Subject: [B-R-I] WHAT!!! WNSH 2 = WESX!?!?! > > > > From WNSH's website, >> >> > WNSH AM 1570 is changing its format as of Tuesday July 21, 2009, >> > We will be simulcasting the signal of AM 1230 WESX >> >> http://www.wnsh.com >> >> This was supposed to have happened last week, but so far nothing >> has >> changed (right now Jerry Doyle is on). >> Keating, how could you?!? P=) >> >> ~Kaimbridge~ >> >> ----- >> Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge >> >> ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** >> >> > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From lglavin@mail.com Mon Jul 27 16:32:18 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:32:18 -0500 Subject: LOL Funny "Tank McNamara" Comic Strip Message-ID: <20090727203218.D1089BE407E@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> The only thing I regularly read in the Boston Globe's sports section is the "Tank McNamara" comic strip. The entry for Monday, July 27th is laugh-out-loud funny and will appeal to radio geeks, sports fans or not: http://news.yahoo.com/comics/uclickcomics/20090727/cx_tm_uc/tm20090727 -- How Strong is Your Score? Click here to see yours for $0! By FreeCreditReport.com From lglavin@mail.com Mon Jul 27 16:34:26 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:34:26 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] WHAT!!! WNSH 2 = WESX!?!?! Message-ID: <20090727203426.BDA0D326701@ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" >To: "Boston Radio Interest" >Subject: [B-R-I] WHAT!!! WNSH 2 = WESX!?!?! >Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:24:15 +0000 >From WNSH's website, > WNSH AM 1570 is changing its format as of Tuesday July 21, 2009, > We will be simulcasting the signal of AM 1230 WESX >http://www.wnsh.com >This was supposed to have happened last week, but so far nothing >has changed (right now Jerry Doyle is on). >Keating, how could you?!? P=) >~Kaimbridge~ He probably meant Tuesday, July 28th, but since he didn't have a Scott Fybush Tower Calendar(tm), he got the week wrong. But what's particularly sad about this is the fact that a perfectly fine local station in Taunton, MA was sacrificed for the signal upgrade of WNSH. The foremost advertiser on WNSH was WNSH itself; there was a station promotional announcement almost every hour of the day targeting local businesses urging them to get on the WNSH train before the rates went up! The question now is: if WNSH can't run Endicott College spots any more, will they now have to pay rent for the tower site? -- How Strong is Your Score? Click here to see yours for $0! By FreeCreditReport.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Jul 28 03:25:45 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:25:45 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] WHAT!!! WNSH 2 = WESX!?!?! Message-ID: <20090728072545.8D754CD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> Just tuned in here, a mile down the road from them...Spanish language music (the word "caliente" was heard) From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Jul 30 19:39:32 2009 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:39:32 -0400 Subject: John Keller Redux Message-ID: <4A722F34.5080501@ttlc.net> This morning, Keller At Large was a bit stale. With no notice of it being a re-run, John Keller's daily diatribe was about President Obama's remarks "last night" i.e. "not knowing all the facts" and the Cambridge Police acting "stupidly." That's a week old. From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Jul 30 20:13:01 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:13:01 -0400 Subject: Little-noted callsign change Message-ID: <19058.14093.775883.613239@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> CBS has changed WBMX to WBMX-FM, with the WBMX (unsuffixed) calls being warehoused on an X-bander in Charlotte. >From this, I assume that the Great Switcheroo will be arranged as follows: First, change WBMX-FM to WBZ-FM. Second, swap WBMX and WBCN. AIUI, the FCC's callsign reservation system doesn't allow for swaps involving three stations, only two, so this dodge is necessary to protect someone else from grabbing either WBMX or WBCN in the time it takes to enter the second call change. (The presumed goal being to warehouse the WBCN calls out-of-market to keep someone else from bringing them back to Boston in competition with WZLX, just as the WROR calls were sent out to Michigan when 98.5 became WBMX seventeen-odd years ago.) -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Jul 30 21:09:35 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:09:35 -0400 Subject: Little-noted callsign change References: <19058.14093.775883.613239@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6E4C350B2FA448B7AC976AADDCFB4A86@SatU205S5044> If CBS owns a station that uses the WBMX-FM calls, why is it necessary for them to warehouse the unsuffixed WBMX calls? By virtue of having a station that uses the WBMX-FM calls, won't CBS have the oldest continuously in-use instance of the WBMX root call sign, even if they don't own a station called WBMX-? I thought that the licensee that has the oldest continuously in-use instance of a root call sign (suffixed, unsuffixed, or both) must consent to any other licensee using that root call sign, whether in unsuffixed or suffixed form. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Little-noted callsign change > CBS has changed WBMX to WBMX-FM, with the WBMX (unsuffixed) calls > being warehoused on an X-bander in Charlotte. > >>From this, I assume that the Great Switcheroo will be arranged as > follows: > > First, change WBMX-FM to WBZ-FM. > Second, swap WBMX and WBCN. > > AIUI, the FCC's callsign reservation system doesn't allow for swaps > involving three stations, only two, so this dodge is necessary to > protect someone else from grabbing either WBMX or WBCN in the time > it > takes to enter the second call change. (The presumed goal being to > warehouse the WBCN calls out-of-market to keep someone else from > bringing them back to Boston in competition with WZLX, just as the > WROR calls were sent out to Michigan when 98.5 became WBMX > seventeen-odd years ago.) > > -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Jul 30 22:16:23 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:16:23 -0400 Subject: Little-noted callsign change In-Reply-To: <6E4C350B2FA448B7AC976AADDCFB4A86@SatU205S5044> References: <19058.14093.775883.613239@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <6E4C350B2FA448B7AC976AADDCFB4A86@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <19058.21495.231744.310279@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > If CBS owns a station that uses the WBMX-FM calls, why is it necessary > for them to warehouse the unsuffixed WBMX calls? Because otherwise, for a brief period of time, they would not have those calls, with or without the suffix. (Or else they would run the risk of someone grabbing WBCN.) Consider the scenarios: a) WBCN (104.1) swaps with WBMX (98.5), then WBCN (98.5) becomes WBZ-FM, then WBCN gets warehoused -- if it's still available. b) WBMX (98.5) becomes WBZ-FM, then WBCN (104.1) becomes WBMX (104.1) -- if it's still available -- then WBCN gets warehoused, again if it's still available. By putting WBMX on an AM station in Charlotte, they can instead do: c) WBMX-FM (98.5) becomes WBZ-FM, then WBCN (104.1) swaps with WBMX (1660) -- no race condition is possible, because there is always a station under CBS's control with the WBMX callsign. -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Jul 31 01:08:14 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:08:14 -0400 Subject: Little-noted callsign change In-Reply-To: <19058.21495.231744.310279@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <19058.14093.775883.613239@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, <6E4C350B2FA448B7AC976AADDCFB4A86@SatU205S5044>, <19058.21495.231744.310279@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4A727C3E.18724.762C22@joe.attorneyross.com> On 30 Jul 2009 at 22:16, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Because otherwise, for a brief period of time, they would not have > those calls, with or without the suffix. (Or else they would run the > risk of someone grabbing WBCN.) Can't the swap be simultaneous? How did the WCRB and WKLB swap go so smoothly? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Jul 31 01:08:16 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:08:16 -0400 Subject: Little-noted callsign change In-Reply-To: <19058.14093.775883.613239@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <19058.14093.775883.613239@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4A727C40.30655.76310F@joe.attorneyross.com> On 30 Jul 2009 at 20:13, Garrett Wollman wrote: > AIUI, the FCC's callsign reservation system doesn't allow for swaps > involving three stations, only two, so this dodge is necessary to > protect someone else from grabbing either WBMX or WBCN in the time it > takes to enter the second call change. (The presumed goal being to > warehouse the WBCN calls out-of-market to keep someone else from > bringing them back to Boston in competition with WZLX, just as the > WROR calls were sent out to Michigan when 98.5 became WBMX > seventeen-odd years ago.) So how did l05.7 get the calls? As I recall, they were warehoused on 1150 AM for awhile. If they have an HD channel called WBCN as a service mark, I would think that the laws of trademark infringement and unfair competition would protect the name against another station trying to use the calls in the Boston area. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@comcast.net Thu Jul 30 23:24:37 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:24:37 -0500 Subject: Little-noted callsign change In-Reply-To: <19058.21495.231744.310279@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <19058.14093.775883.613239@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <6E4C350B2FA448B7AC976AADDCFB4A86@SatU205S5044> <19058.21495.231744.310279@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4fc429770907302024o71ae9957p74b032186855320a@mail.gmail.com> This entire musical chairs of call signs and frequency moves is making my head hurt. OK BCN is dead and WBZ-FM will be born fine.. Now since the WBMX calls were seldom used as the station was branded MIX98 why move to 104.1???? I still think it is only because 98.5 covers most of Metro Providence which 104.1 does not. The ship has sailed but I really wish the FCC had ruled long ago those are your calls deal with it and we won't change anything unless you are breaking or forming a combo AM-FM-TV Is there anything more idiotic than WBEN-FM Philadelphia (no disrespect to Mr. Franklin) From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Jul 31 01:33:49 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:33:49 -0400 Subject: Little-noted callsign change In-Reply-To: <4A727C40.30655.76310F@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <19058.14093.775883.613239@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4A727C40.30655.76310F@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <19058.33341.318888.580527@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > So how did l05.7 get the calls? As I recall, they were warehoused on > 1150 AM for awhile. The station in Michigan that ended up with the WROR calls no longer had any obligations to whomever was the owner of 98.5 at the time, and they changed their calls to something else. That made them available again, and Greater Media picked them up three years later. Here's the timeline: 1988-10-28: NEW (640) (a CP in Zeeland, Michigan) becomes WROR 1991-02-26: WROR (98.5) becomes WBMX-FM 1991-03-11: WBMX (640) becomes WROR 1991-03-20: WBMX-FM (98.5) becomes WBMX 1993-09-08: WROR (640) becomes WISZ 1996-08-16: WMEX (1150) becomes WROR 1996-09-13: WKLB-FM (105.7) becomes WROR-FM 1996-10-12: WROR (1150) becomes WNFT > If they have an HD channel called WBCN as a service mark, I would > think that the laws of trademark infringement and unfair competition > would protect the name against another station trying to use the > calls in the Boston area. Sure, but $65 is probably less than the attorney's fees to write the nasty letter that precedes the lawsuit. -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Jul 31 01:36:16 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:36:16 -0400 Subject: Little-noted callsign change In-Reply-To: <19058.33341.318888.580527@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <19058.14093.775883.613239@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4A727C40.30655.76310F@joe.attorneyross.com> <19058.33341.318888.580527@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <19058.33488.419625.248929@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < 1988-10-28: NEW (640) (a CP in Zeeland, Michigan) becomes WROR I screwed this up in editing. That should, of course, say "WBMX" sted "WROR" there. -GAWollman From nostaticatall@charter.net Fri Jul 31 07:36:36 2009 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:36:36 -0400 Subject: Little-noted callsign change In-Reply-To: <4fc429770907302024o71ae9957p74b032186855320a@mail.gmail.com> References: <19058.14093.775883.613239@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <6E4C350B2FA448B7AC976AADDCFB4A86@SatU205S5044> <19058.21495.231744.310279@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4fc429770907302024o71ae9957p74b032186855320a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The frequency switch makes sense on a couple of levels. First, 104.1 has a better signal within 128, and can penetrate through office buildings better than 98.5. This is a good fit for WBMX's Hot AC format, which is dependent on at-work listeners. WBMX doesn't really need the listeners on the far edges of the Boston ADI. They are served by WXLO and WSNE, and most of Mix's promotions tend to be based closer to Boston itself. For the new sports station going up against WEEI and it's repeaters in Worcester & Providence, a strong regional signal that can reach all of the metro is needed. 98.5 gets into Worcester & Providence much better than 104.1, and more importantly, throws a strong signal over all of Metrowest, something that WEEI does not. -Dave Tomm On Jul 30, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Now since the WBMX calls were seldom used as the station was branded > MIX98 why move to 104.1???? I still think it is only because 98.5 > covers most of Metro Providence which 104.1 does not. > From aerie.ma@comcast.net Fri Jul 31 09:10:02 2009 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:10:02 -0400 Subject: Little-noted callsign change In-Reply-To: References: <19058.14093.775883.613239@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><6E4C350B2FA448B7AC976AADDCFB4A86@SatU205S5044><19058.21495.231744.310279@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><4fc429770907302024o71ae9957p74b032186855320a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Has WODS also changed its callsign to WODS-FM? I notice on the WBZ ID it is now "WBZ...WBZ HD...WODS-FM HD3" -Dave Tomm On Jul 30, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Now since the WBMX calls were seldom used as the station was branded > MIX98 why move to 104.1???? I still think it is only because 98.5 > covers most of Metro Providence which 104.1 does not. > From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Fri Jul 31 16:35:08 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:35:08 -0400 Subject: Misch Michaels Gives Her Fina WBZ-TVl Farewell Message-ID: <59A9D05873A2405F8117AF446655FBAF@teddesktop> This was posted on the WBZ-TV site this afternoon. http://wbztv.com/slideshows/mish.michaels.wbz.20.1104291.html From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Fri Jul 31 17:35:31 2009 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:35:31 -0400 Subject: August 20th Message-ID: <4A7363A3.7040200@ttlc.net> According to "Observed Days Lists", August 20th is National Radio Day. From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Jul 31 21:13:51 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:13:51 -0400 Subject: Little-noted callsign change In-Reply-To: <4A7374CC.3245.FFB6B5@Joe.attorneyross.com> References: <19058.14093.775883.613239@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4A727C3E.18724.762C22@joe.attorneyross.com> <19058.33439.68863.269385@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4A7374CC.3245.FFB6B5@Joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <19059.38607.891258.799291@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Another little corner case to all this: they have cut a new WBMX-FM HD2 ID for the automated eighties hits format there, but they didn't redo the network ID for the "Psychic Network" that runs on the HD3. Speaking of WBMX-FM (HD2), can anyone identify the source of the crosstalk in the right channel? I've heard a Bud commercial and some music. It's definitely not either of the other subchannels, nor is it WBZ, and it has to be happening in the analog domain somewhere. (If nobody else hears it, perhaps it's in my tuner, although I don't understand how that could be possible, given that it doesn't happen when any other station is tuned.) -GAWollman From lglavin@mail.com Fri Jul 31 13:49:28 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:49:28 -0500 Subject: John Keller Redux Message-ID: <20090731174930.E15E41BF28D@ws1-10.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Roger Kirk" >To: bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: John Keller Redux >Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:39:32 -0400 >This morning, Keller At Large was a bit stale. With no notice of >it being a re-run, John Keller's daily diatribe was about President >Obama's remarks "last night" i.e. "not knowing all the facts" and >the Cambridge Police acting "stupidly." >That's a week old. This morning (Friday 07/31), during the "Stephanie Miller Show" on WWZN-AM, there was a spot for Radio Shack that began: "this week is the 40th anniversary of the first man-on-the-moon"; that was LAST week. I wonder if the same wording will be used next week. -- An Excellent Credit Score is 750 See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! at Freecreditreport.com From oakz@verizon.net Fri Jul 31 22:25:06 2009 From: oakz@verizon.net (Bob Oakes) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:25:06 -0400 Subject: The Real Bob Oakes. Message-ID: I'm curious if the Bob Oakes at WBUR is a real Bob Oakes as in his given name. If not, what is his real name and when did he adopt the name? This Bob Oakes was Program Manager at WBZ from 1968 - 1976. Info is appreciated. Bob Oakes born 12/18/41