From atolz@comcast.net Tue Dec 1 00:28:20 2009 From: atolz@comcast.net (Alan Tolz) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 00:28:20 -0500 Subject: IMUS References: <8bce0fe80911301258r71f8847fv76b414fa142b1bbb@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80911301516u17738a3cn30c5826ade72bd40@mail.gmail.com> <1335D0ACF09141598FA9D3509BD4E3C8@dave> Message-ID: <9249A5D0E0D046C6B3D9366FA76C19DF@mediacenter> Dave, you're right on target. And Dan, I'm relatively ignorant of the technical specifics, but I know that the CE operates by the letter of the Commission's law re: power at all times. All the while WFAN had Imus, Hartford County stations were unable to gain access to his programming. As I'm sure everyone knows, Imus' advertisers don't see ratings as the be all and end all. I think that WCCC AM will be providing a service to those who like Imus but don't receive him as well at 770 as they did at 660. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Doherty" To: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." ; "Alan Tolz" Cc: "bri" Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:13 PM Subject: Re: IMUS > So they can sell at least one daypart? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 6:16 PM > To: "Alan Tolz" > Cc: "bri" > Subject: Re: IMUS > >> >> Ok, I have egg on my face....... I just realized something. >> >> It was Howard STERN WCCC-AM had on before, not IMUS. I get those two old >> windbags confused. >> >> Still curious, why is a classical station adding IMUS? >> >> Paul >> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Alan Tolz wrote: >> >>> Hi, Paul...WCCC AM has not aired Imus before. In fact, when Imus was on >>> WFAN, Connecticut stations were not allowed to carry his program. >>> >>> WCCC AM has a PSSA that allows for full power at 6 AM and 25% or so at >>> 4:30 >>> AM and I'm pretty sure that for the hours of Imus' program, WCCC AM is >>> at >>> its full power. >>> >>> Alan >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." < >>> walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> >>> To: "bri" >>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:58 PM >>> Subject: IMUS >>> >>> >>> >>> I wonder why WCCC-AM is adding IMUS again. They had him for awhile, >>> even >>>> after 1290 went classical and dropped him, now are adding him back. >>>> >>>> Why put him on a Classical music AM station that no one more then 2 or >>>> 3 >>>> miles away can hear before sunrise? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Paul B. Walker, Jr. >>>> www.onairdj.com >>>> walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Sincerely, >> Paul B. Walker, Jr. >> www.onairdj.com >> walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com >> > From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Dec 1 09:29:16 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:29:16 -0500 Subject: All-classical 99.5 Message-ID: <66E96B450C9E4588952FE4FEDC58F3B6@SatU205S5044> Well, it's 9:00AM, and the first piece Cathy Fuller is playing is a symphonic arrangement of Tea for Two! Fine with me, but I can't wait to hear Mr Glavin demonstrate that he is as adept at venting his spleen at the WGBH Foundation as he was at excoriating Nassau and Charles River Broadcasting before it. Never mind that the symphonic arrangement was by Shostakovich; I can't imagine Laurence accepting Tea for Two as classical. I didn't tune in until about 8:15 so I don't know whether 99.5 is still doing traffic and news in AM drive. If not, I'd call it a mistake. If they think the listeners will skip down to 89.7 for news/weather/traffic and then quickly return to 99.5, I think they are wrong. Many will skip down to 90.9 and won't come back to 99.5 that quickly. Also, I had expected underwriting announcements from most former WCRB advertisers. After listening for an hour, I have heard zero underwriting. IMO, the station doesn't sound right without the underwriting/commercials. And the equalization on Laura Carlo's mike needs tweaking. The lows are kind of boomy. Also, does anyone else have trouble distinguishing Laura's voice from Cathy's? You have to be really alert to notice that the host changes at 9:00. At the 9:00 legal, I did not notice WCRB-FM-HD listed. I did notice IDs for both WGBH-HD 89.7and WNCK 89.5, but does this mean that WCRB-FM-HD is silent or will the service that was on WGBH-HD 89.7 be moving to WCRB-FM-HD 99.5? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Dec 1 09:49:33 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:49:33 -0500 Subject: All-classical 99.5 Message-ID: Also, at some point, will the old www.wcrb.com redirect to www.995allclassical.org? If so, does anybody know when? I know that the new URL has already received a lot of publicity, but having the old one bring up the new one seems like a no-brainer. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Dec 1 15:56:58 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:56:58 -0500 Subject: All-classical 99.5 Message-ID: <20091201205658.EB85E83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> I checked and wcrb.com does now point to what is technically http://www.wgbh.org/995/ >>"Meet Team Classical 99.5" 99.5 All Classical is Boston's only 24-hour classical music station, presenting timeless music in a friendly, informative way While the WCRB calls do show up on a couple pages, like in a brief history of the station, the accent is on calling them All Classical 99.5 From rac@gabrielmass.com Tue Dec 1 17:23:31 2009 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:23:31 -0500 Subject: All-classical 99.5 In-Reply-To: <66E96B450C9E4588952FE4FEDC58F3B6@SatU205S5044> References: <66E96B450C9E4588952FE4FEDC58F3B6@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4B159763.3030506@server4.gabrielmass.com> 99.5 came on the air with a test tone a few minutes before 5 a.m. Laura Carlo opened with a sign-on announcement at 5 ("... the WGBH Educational Foundation ..."). She spoke briefly about getting used to the new studio, equipped with various shiny buttons, and started the first program with a suite by Grieg. --RC From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Dec 1 17:57:50 2009 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 17:57:50 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: All-classical 99.5 Message-ID: <30553300.1259708270882.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > From: "Dan.Strassberg" > Tuesday, December 1, 2009 9:29 AM > > At the 9:00 legal, I did not notice WCRB-FM-HD > listed. I did notice IDs for both WGBH-HD 89.7 > and WNCK 89.5, but does this mean that WCRB-FM- > HD is silent or will the service that was on > WGBH-HD 89.7 be moving to WCRB-FM-HD 99.5? The fact that HD wasn't mentioned in the WCRB ID does not necessarily mean that they aren't now broadcasting in HD. I'm not sure what the legal policy is, but some stations that broadcast in HD (but have no additional multicast channels) don't mention HD in their ID's. WBUR and WUMB both broadcast in HD, but there is no mention of it in their ID's. I heard WCRB in HD, while still in their old configuration, this past weekend. EP From gary@garysicecream.com Tue Dec 1 21:16:38 2009 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:16:38 -0500 Subject: The reporter becomes part of the story Message-ID: <046301ca72f5$7b0a5870$711f0950$@com> After doing her live shot at noon Gail Huff (Ch 5) reportedly took a tumble down the embankment on the side of the Steadman St bridge in Chelmsford.knocking herself unconscious. She was taken by ambulance to a local area hospital where she was treated and released. From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Dec 2 00:31:52 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:31:52 -0500 Subject: All-classical 99.5 In-Reply-To: <66E96B450C9E4588952FE4FEDC58F3B6@SatU205S5044> References: <66E96B450C9E4588952FE4FEDC58F3B6@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4B15FBC8.392.7ACD60@joe.attorneyross.com> On 1 Dec 2009 at 9:29, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > At the 9:00 legal, I did not notice WCRB-FM-HD listed. I did notice > IDs for both WGBH-HD 89.7and WNCK 89.5, but does this mean that > WCRB-FM-HD is silent or will the service that was on WGBH-HD 89.7 be > moving to WCRB-FM-HD 99.5? What's WNCK? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From nostaticatall@charter.net Wed Dec 2 00:19:33 2009 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 00:19:33 -0500 Subject: IMUS In-Reply-To: <9249A5D0E0D046C6B3D9366FA76C19DF@mediacenter> References: <8bce0fe80911301258r71f8847fv76b414fa142b1bbb@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80911301516u17738a3cn30c5826ade72bd40@mail.gmail.com> <1335D0ACF09141598FA9D3509BD4E3C8@dave> <9249A5D0E0D046C6B3D9366FA76C19DF@mediacenter> Message-ID: <2400C3ED-0A9E-4EE9-B589-29B789FACDD9@charter.net> 660 has a killer signal throughout all of CT, the best out of all the big NYC AM's. WFAN normally gets around a one share in Hartford, and that has continued even after Imus left. WABC is not as strong in the central part of the state as WFAN, and Imus has a lot of longtime listeners in Connecticut. WCCC-AM figures they can make a few bucks running Imus. He has a built in fan base in the market who would most likely tune in, if they can publicize it. -Dave Tomm On Dec 1, 2009, at 12:28 AM, Alan Tolz wrote: > Dave, you're right on target. And Dan, I'm relatively ignorant of > the technical specifics, but I know that the CE operates by the > letter of the Commission's law re: power at all times. > > All the while WFAN had Imus, Hartford County stations were unable to > gain access to his programming. As I'm sure everyone knows, Imus' > advertisers don't see ratings as the be all and end all. I think > that WCCC AM will be providing a service to those who like Imus but > don't receive him as well at 770 as they did at 660. > From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Wed Dec 2 00:39:43 2009 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:39:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: All-classical 99.5 In-Reply-To: <4B15FBC8.392.7ACD60@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <423620.77806.qm@web110508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Wed, 12/2/09, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > What's WNCK? 89.5 Nantucket, formerly // WGBH, now from what the reports say // WCRB. From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 2 06:25:30 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:25:30 -0500 Subject: All-classical 99.5 References: <66E96B450C9E4588952FE4FEDC58F3B6@SatU205S5044> <4B15FBC8.392.7ACD60@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <3A3E4D9FD7DA4A3984D1883561608DFC@SatU205S5044> WNCK 89.5 is WGBH's station on Nantucket. It also serves portions of Cape Cod. I believe that, until yesterday, it had a separate schedule from WGBH; it was mostly, if not all, news/talk, and had a schedule more like WBUR's than WGBH's. Now, I gather that it is // or mostly // WGBH. Or maybe I've got that wrong; maybe it used to be //WGBH and is now // WCRB. Hard to keep track, especially when I can't hear the station. Either scenario kind of makes sense. Since WCRB doesn't reach Cape Cod (and never really did--even when it was on 102.5), it probably needs the Nantucket signal more than 89.7 does. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:31 AM Subject: Re: All-classical 99.5 > What's WNCK? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Dec 2 07:17:02 2009 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 07:17:02 -0500 Subject: All-classical 99.5 In-Reply-To: <3A3E4D9FD7DA4A3984D1883561608DFC@SatU205S5044> References: <66E96B450C9E4588952FE4FEDC58F3B6@SatU205S5044> <4B15FBC8.392.7ACD60@joe.attorneyross.com> <3A3E4D9FD7DA4A3984D1883561608DFC@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <006401ca7349$5ab8d570$102a8050$@net> > WNCK 89.5 is WGBH's station on Nantucket. It also serves portions of > Cape Cod. I believe that, until yesterday, it had a separate schedule > from WGBH; it was mostly, if not all, news/talk, and had a schedule > more like WBUR's than WGBH's. Now, I gather that it is // or mostly // > WGBH. > > Or maybe I've got that wrong; maybe it used to be //WGBH and is > now // WCRB. Hard to keep track, especially when I can't hear the > station. Either scenario kind of makes sense. Since WCRB doesn't reach > Cape Cod (and never really did--even when it was on 102.5), it > probably needs the Nantucket signal more than 89.7 does. It used to be completely //WGBH. 90.1 WCAI, 91.1 WNAN (on Nantucket on the same tower as WNCK), and 94.3 WZAI are a network of stations that run all NPR news/talk. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From bob.bosra@demattia.net Wed Dec 2 06:50:58 2009 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:50:58 -0500 Subject: All-classical 99.5 In-Reply-To: <4B15FBC8.392.7ACD60@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <66E96B450C9E4588952FE4FEDC58F3B6@SatU205S5044> <4B15FBC8.392.7ACD60@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: 99.5 was definitely transmitting an HD signal yesterday morning 9:30 - I received it myself travelling up I-93. The HD radio display read "WCRB HD". There was no HD2 signal. -Bob From bob.bosra@demattia.net Wed Dec 2 07:03:59 2009 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 07:03:59 -0500 Subject: All-classical 99.5 In-Reply-To: <423620.77806.qm@web110508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <4B15FBC8.392.7ACD60@joe.attorneyross.com> <423620.77806.qm@web110508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: >From their website: WGBH programmiing: WGBH(89.7) NPR: WCAI(90.1)/WNAN(91.1)/WZAI(94.3) All classical: WCRB(99.5)/WGBH-HD2/WNCK(89.5) On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Sean Smyth wrote: > On Wed, 12/2/09, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > What's WNCK? > > 89.5 Nantucket, formerly // WGBH, now from what the reports say // WCRB. > > > > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Dec 2 12:02:40 2009 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:02:40 -0500 Subject: All-classical 99.5 In-Reply-To: <47347.55812.qm@web50808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <006401ca7349$5ab8d570$102a8050$@net> <47347.55812.qm@web50808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901ca7371$42a0e5e0$c7e2b1a0$@net> > Is WNCK running Stereo? And would they being fed via over the air > (99.5) or via other means (fiber, STL or satellite)? The reason I ask > is.... isn't there a 99.5 "God squad" translator on the Cape already? > I'm sure it would impede the terrestrial signal from 99.5/Lowell. Just > curious.... I think WNCK began broadcasting in stereo around the time that it began simulcasting WGBH. There was a short time when they first signed on, that it was called "Nantucket Public Radio" and played music (oldies, I believe). It must be fed in some other way than over the air, because when was out there, there didn't appear to be any receive antennas on the tower. Plus, I'd imagine that it would be difficult to receive 89.7 right next to 89.5. They also have 91.1 WNAN right on the same tower. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 2 12:38:14 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:38:14 -0500 Subject: Tea for Two (was All-classical 99.5) References: <66E96B450C9E4588952FE4FEDC58F3B6@SatU205S5044> <8CC40D63D86195F-B7C-E21@web-mmc-d06.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Tea for Two has a cute lyric and a nice simple melody that's easy to remember and sing. But the song, which is from the score of the 1925 musical No, No Nanette, is not from the pen of such masters as the Geshwins, Cole Porter, or Rodgers and Hart. The melody was written by Vincent Youmans (no slouch, but not usually considered to rank with George Gershwin or Richard Rodgers). The lyric was penned by Irving Ceasar, also no slouch, but very clearly not among the first ranks of twentieth century American lyricists. I don't have any idea whether Youmans and Caesar worked together on other scores besides that of No, No Nanette or whether they worked together on Tin Pan Alley tunes that were not in the scores of Broadway musicals, but it's probably a safe bet that Tea for Two was their most popular and best known work. I also don't know whether the cornball lyric was written with tongue in cheek or whether it was simply par for the course in its era. As they say, they sure don't write 'em like that anymore. And some (OK, not I) might add that it's a good thing. JIMMY: I'm discontented with homes that I've rented So I've invented my own. Darling, this place is a lovely oasis Where life's weary taste is unknown Far from the crowding of the city Where flowers pretty caress the stream Cozy to hide in, to live side by side in, It could be much more than a dream... Picture you upon my knee Just tea for two And two for tea Just me for you And you for me alone NANETTE: Nobody near us to see us or hear us, No friends or relations, On weekend vacations. We won't have it known, dear, That we own a telephone, dear... NANETTE: Day will break and I'll wake And start to bake a sugar cake For you to take for all the boys to see BOTH: We will raise a family JIMMY: A boy for you A girl for me BOTH: Can't you see how happy we would be... ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:47 PM Subject: Re: All-classical 99.5 No doubt, Mr. Bolcom's preferences for Gershwin and Cole Porter caused pieces by those gentlemen to predominate. "Tea for Two" would have fit right in. From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Wed Dec 2 11:45:53 2009 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:45:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: All-classical 99.5 In-Reply-To: <006401ca7349$5ab8d570$102a8050$@net> Message-ID: <47347.55812.qm@web50808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Is WNCK running Stereo? And would they being fed via over the air (99.5) or via other means (fiber, STL or satellite)? The reason I ask is.... isn't there a 99.5 "God squad" translator on the Cape already? I'm sure it would impede the terrestrial signal from 99.5/Lowell. Just curious.... Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > From: Jeff Lehmann > Subject: RE: All-classical 99.5 > To: "'Dan.Strassberg'" , "'A. Joseph Ross'" > Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 7:17 AM > > WNCK 89.5 is WGBH's station on > Nantucket. It also serves portions of > > Cape Cod. I believe that, until yesterday, it had a > separate schedule > > from WGBH; it was mostly, if not all, news/talk, and > had a schedule > > more like WBUR's than WGBH's. Now, I gather that it is > // or mostly // > > WGBH. > > > > Or maybe I've got that wrong; maybe it used to be > //WGBH and is > > now // WCRB. Hard to keep track, especially when I > can't hear the > > station. Either scenario kind of makes sense. Since > WCRB doesn't reach > > Cape Cod (and never really did--even when it was on > 102.5), it > > probably needs the Nantucket signal more than 89.7 > does. > > It used to be completely //WGBH. 90.1 WCAI, 91.1 WNAN (on > Nantucket on the > same tower as WNCK), and 94.3 WZAI are a network of > stations that run all > NPR news/talk. > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA > > From lglavin@mail.com Tue Dec 1 14:47:25 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:47:25 -0500 Subject: All-classical 99.5 In-Reply-To: <66E96B450C9E4588952FE4FEDC58F3B6@SatU205S5044> References: <66E96B450C9E4588952FE4FEDC58F3B6@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <8CC40D63D86195F-B7C-E21@web-mmc-d06.sysops.aol.com> >-----Original Message----- >From: Dan.Strassberg >To: Boston Radio Interest >Sent: Tue, Dec 1, 2009 9:29 am >Subject: All-classical 99.5 >Well, it's 9:00AM, and the first piece Cathy Fuller is playing is a >symphonic arrangement of Tea for Two! Fine with me, but I can't wait >to hear Mr Glavin demonstrate that he is as adept at venting his >spleen at the WGBH Foundation as he was at excoriating Nassau and >Charles River Broadcasting before it. Never mind that the symphonic >arrangement was by Shostakovich; I can't imagine Laurence accepting >Tea for Two as classical. >------ >Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >eFax 1-707-215-6367 Oops, there goes Dan again, attempting to guess at my opinions and thoughts. First, about any song from the "Great American Songbook", I've attended several performances in Boston, Shelburn Falls, Ma and NYC, by William Bolcom and Joan Morris that were filled with music by popular American songwriters from mostly the first half of the 20th Century. No doubt, Mr. Bolcom's preferences for Gershwin and Cole Porter caused pieces by those gentlemen to predominate. "Tea for Two" would have fit right in. There's a conservatory-trained actor named Hershey Felder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hershey_Felder and I've attended three of his performances at the American Repertory Theater in Cambridge. (He owes us his take on Beethoven, which he hasn't done here ye. The L-man is selling tickets all over town, with the Boston Symphony Orchestra and Boston Conservatory of Music featuring his pieces and TWO (click-click) ensembles doing the Complete String Quartets. But I digress...one of the major genres of classical composition is the Theme and Variations form. One encounters it WITHIN longer pieces, but there are significant standalone Theme and Variations goung back to the Baroque period and right on up to the Twentieth Century. Very often, the composer selects something well-known and much-liked by his or her contemporaries, and then creates an ever increasingly-complex set of variations on it. The aforementioned Beethoven did it with a waltz by Diabelli (the story behind it engendered a Broadway play called "33 Variations" http://www.33variations.com George Gershwin himself wrote variations on his song "I Got Rhthym" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variations_on_%22I_Got_Rhythm%22 American iconoclast and insurance agent Charles Ives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Ives wrote a set of variation on "America" for pipe organ, later transcribed by William Schuman (not to be confused with German -born Composer Robert Schumann). I've heard all of the above pieces, either live (the Ives Variations for organ in the Methuen Memorial Concert Hall) or on radio or records. The Shostakovich would not have troubled me at all. BTW, a while later, Cathy Fuller played Vincent D'Indy's (pronounced like 'dandy' but Frenchified) "Symphony on a French Mountain Air", which is also a symphonic piece based on a popular-style melody (the word 'air' refers to a song not to the atmosphere. "Danny Boy" is sometimes called "Londonderry Air".) From lglavin@mail.com Tue Dec 1 14:57:01 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:57:01 -0500 Subject: IMUS In-Reply-To: <9D25A48E78664964893A313B174CDCEC@SatU205S5044> References: <8bce0fe80911301258r71f8847fv76b414fa142b1bbb@mail.gmail.com> <9D25A48E78664964893A313B174CDCEC@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <8CC40D7944BEDE7-B7C-E50@web-mmc-d06.sysops.aol.com> >-----Original Message----- >From: Dan.Strassberg >To: Alan Tolz ; Paul B. Walker, Jr. ; bri >Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2009 9:21 pm >Subject: Re: IMUS >I doubt whether the PSRA allows this. I'd bet on someone at the >station deciding that, if the PSRA allows 125W at 6:00AM in January, >when sunrise is at 7:30, it should therefore allow us to run the same >power ay 4:30AM in a month when official local sunrise is at 6:00AM. >Sure; that's what it must mean; if we get caught, I'll say that the >language was unclear. Until you get caught, that's called creativity. >Afterwards, depending on how many times you were caught doing it, it's >called "just pay the fine." >----- >Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >eFax 1-707-215-6367 I haven't checked for December yet, but another station with 'CC' after 'W' has been signing on before local sunrise all fall: WCCM-AM 1110, COL and transmitter site : Salem, NH In October and November until the start of EST, when LSR was 7:00 am, WCCM powered up at just before 6:00 am, carrying several minutes of Doug Stephan's first hour...same thing in November EST. From paul.norton@gmail.com Tue Dec 1 19:22:10 2009 From: paul.norton@gmail.com (Paul Norton) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:22:10 -0800 Subject: Jimmy Jay Produces Dick Clark 80th Birthday Special In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B15B332.2070501@gmail.com> Mark Watson wrote: > Jimmy Jay. who hosted the "Time Tunnel" show on WILD in the 80's & 90's > (using the name Jay Michaels) has produced a 3 hour radio special in > honor of Dick Clark's 80th birthday (which is today, 11/30). The special > aired this past weekend on WATD, but will air tonight at 9PM on WLNG > (92.1) Sag Harbor NY, live stream available via www.wlng.com > > Here's a link to an article about the special from the Norton Mirror > weekly newspaper: > > http://www.wickedlocal.com/norton/news/x730412172/DJ-celebrates-80th-birthday-of-America-s-Oldest-Teenager > > > Mark Watson > Did anyone record this special? I completely missed it. - Paul From ka3zci@yahoo.com Tue Dec 1 19:40:24 2009 From: ka3zci@yahoo.com (Robert Paine) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:40:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: WTEV-TV Weathercaster Message-ID: <712763.3344.qm@web30102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Does anyone recall the name of Ch. 6's female weather forecaster who was with the station around 1970? I can't recall her name but it may have been Connie and she had kind of long brown hair, I think. She dressed something like a witch on the Halloween night newscast. I'd like to know where she went from Ch. 6. From friedbagels@gmail.com Wed Dec 2 17:56:15 2009 From: friedbagels@gmail.com (Aaron Read) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:56:15 -0500 Subject: All-classical 99.5 - legal ID's for HD Message-ID: <4B16F08F.4050901@gmail.com> The rules on ID'ing HD signals are clear as mud. 47 CFR Section 73.1201 "Station Identification" says... http://www.hallikainen.com/FccRules/2010/73/1201/ ..."A radio station operating in DAB hybrid mode or extended hybrid mode shall identify its digital signal, including any free multicast audio programming streams, in a manner that appropriately alerts its audience to the fact that it is listening to a digital audio broadcast." (Note: DAB is Digital Audio Broadcasting) Interestingly, for a while there, legally you were not REQUIRED to include any mention of digital broadcasting or HD or whatever in your audio stream. That's because for a time, every single HD receiver made had a alphanumeric display that could show SOME indication of receiving an HD Radio signal. That visual cue, in theory, could meet the rule above. Understand that my theory has never been confirmed nor denied by FCC personnel in any official capacity. I'm not 100% positive anymore that all the HD radios on the market have that visual indication; there's been too many new models for me to keep track of them all. I think they all do but unless 100% of them do it you it won't meet the rule. If WBUR and WUMB truly are not including some mention of the HD in their legal ID's, they're probably not really meeting 73.1201. Probably. Or maybe they are. Depends on what else they're running for programming near the top of the hour. Like I said, it's all clear as mud. FWIW, at WEOS our standard 15 second legal ID's at the top of every hour all say "89.7FM-HD, WEOS, Geneva" and "90.3FM-HD, W212BA, Geneva". It ain't much, but it should be sufficient. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron Read | Finger Lakes Public Radio friedbagels@gmail.com | General Manager (WEOS & WHWS-LP) Geneva, NY 14456 | www.weos.org / www.whws.fm The fact that HD wasn't mentioned in the WCRB ID does not necessarily mean that they aren't now broadcasting in HD. I'm not sure what the legal policy is, but some stations that broadcast in HD (but have no additional multicast channels) don't mention HD in their ID's. WBUR and WUMB both broadcast in HD, but there is no mention of it in their ID's. I heard WCRB in HD, while still in their old configuration, this past weekend. EP From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Thu Dec 3 15:36:08 2009 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:36:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! Message-ID: <406403.80527.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I don't now much about a science book, but there appears to be unusual propagation today on the medium wave band: ? -- All day, at my Connecticut location, a signal has been audible behind WINS -- never, ever happened here in the daytime in my 24 years at my location. They were playing Jingle Bell Rock just before noon on my CC Radio Plus. ? -- Starting around 2 p.m., there was a strong "beating" rhythm on top of WBZ, which had sounded like it was using 50 kW. But even at 10 kW, I've never heard that before here either, that long before sunset. Just before 3, they were playing Neil Diamond. The audible went away right around 3, but there's still some beating -- although less. Later on, I'm going to check the FCC to see if any stations on 1030 have reduced critical hours power that might have kicked in at 3. ? I already was thinking this winter might be good for DX-ing -- after I heard KOA in the clear for several minutes a week or two ago at around 6 or 7 p.m. EST. Very rare here in the last couple decades -- very, very rare. ???However, what I heard today seems way beyond anything I'm familiar with even during a really good late January for DX-ing. ? From scott@fybush.com Thu Dec 3 16:54:41 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:54:41 -0500 Subject: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! In-Reply-To: <406403.80527.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <406403.80527.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B1833A1.6080805@fybush.com> Martin Waters wrote: > I don't now much about a science book, but there appears to be > unusual propagation today on the medium wave band: Definitely some good late-afternoon propagation. I was driving home around 3:30 here in Rochester listening to WEEU 830 out of Reading PA like a local. That's unusual here! From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 3 17:02:41 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 17:02:41 -0500 Subject: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! References: <406403.80527.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <298EBA697883472DB79E7FB1395E9ACB@SatU205S5044> WGSF Memphis TN on 1030 runs 50 kW-D, 10 kW-CH, 1 kW-N DA-N (three towers in-line protecting WBZ). The D and CH operations are ND. The format is Black Gospel, I believe. The distance between WGSF and WBZ is 1135 miles. There is a second AM 1030 in TN 165 miles closer to WBZ but it runs 1 kW-D/250W-N DA-N; no separate CH facilities. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Waters" To: Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:36 PM Subject: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! I don't now much about a science book, but there appears to be unusual propagation today on the medium wave band: -- All day, at my Connecticut location, a signal has been audible behind WINS -- never, ever happened here in the daytime in my 24 years at my location. They were playing Jingle Bell Rock just before noon on my CC Radio Plus. -- Starting around 2 p.m., there was a strong "beating" rhythm on top of WBZ, which had sounded like it was using 50 kW. But even at 10 kW, I've never heard that before here either, that long before sunset. Just before 3, they were playing Neil Diamond. The audible went away right around 3, but there's still some beating -- although less. Later on, I'm going to check the FCC to see if any stations on 1030 have reduced critical hours power that might have kicked in at 3. I already was thinking this winter might be good for DX-ing -- after I heard KOA in the clear for several minutes a week or two ago at around 6 or 7 p.m. EST. Very rare here in the last couple decades -- very, very rare. However, what I heard today seems way beyond anything I'm familiar with even during a really good late January for DX-ing. From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Dec 3 17:07:40 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:07:40 -0600 Subject: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! In-Reply-To: <298EBA697883472DB79E7FB1395E9ACB@SatU205S5044> References: <406403.80527.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <298EBA697883472DB79E7FB1395E9ACB@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80912031407q511478f8kcd5a2a21f4aa30b4@mail.gmail.com> WGSF, according to Flinn Broadcasting's own website is broadcasting in spanish as Radio Ambiente. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > WGSF Memphis TN on 1030 runs 50 kW-D, 10 kW-CH, 1 kW-N DA-N (three > towers in-line protecting WBZ). The D and CH operations are ND. The > format is Black Gospel, I believe. The distance between WGSF and WBZ > is 1135 miles. There is a second AM 1030 in TN 165 miles closer to WBZ > but it runs 1 kW-D/250W-N DA-N; no separate CH facilities. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Waters" < > martinjwaters@yahoo.com> > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:36 PM > Subject: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! > > > > I don't now much about a science book, but there appears to be unusual > propagation today on the medium wave band: > -- All day, at my Connecticut location, a signal has been audible > behind WINS -- never, ever happened here in the daytime in my 24 years > at my location. They were playing Jingle Bell Rock just before noon on > my CC Radio Plus. > -- Starting around 2 p.m., there was a strong "beating" rhythm on top > of WBZ, which had sounded like it was using 50 kW. But even at 10 kW, > I've never heard that before here either, that long before sunset. > Just before 3, they were playing Neil Diamond. The audible went away > right around 3, but there's still some beating -- although less. Later > on, I'm going to check the FCC to see if any stations on 1030 have > reduced critical hours power that might have kicked in at 3. > I already was thinking this winter might be good for DX-ing -- after I > heard KOA in the clear for several minutes a week or two ago at around > 6 or 7 p.m. EST. Very rare here in the last couple decades -- very, > very rare. > However, what I heard today seems way beyond anything I'm familiar > with even during a really good late January for DX-ing. > > > > > > > > > > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From john@pcsupportsolutions.com Thu Dec 3 20:02:14 2009 From: john@pcsupportsolutions.com (John Allen) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 20:02:14 -0500 Subject: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! In-Reply-To: <406403.80527.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <406403.80527.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4058B0E641C1490BADEA3BACA5D9228F@DBTOA000> This anomalously good propagation is due to the current extended solar minimum combined with a short (1 day more or less) minimum, where the solar K index is 0 on a scale of 0 to 9, meaning that D layer daytime absorption is very low. Also, historically early Dec, is a time of very low absorption, whan stations from Japan can be contacted on 1.8 Mhz. Regards, John K1AE, ex WBOS AM/FM, WCRB AM/FM (Assistant CE) John Allen - PC Support Solutions www.pcsupportsolutions.com PC On Site Service and Training - Computer HW/SW/Network debugging, installation and upgrades. 978 779-6189 M: 508 361-6229 -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Martin Waters Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:36 PM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! I don't now much about a science book, but there appears to be unusual propagation today on the medium wave band: ? -- All day, at my Connecticut location, a signal has been audible behind WINS -- never, ever happened here in the daytime in my 24 years at my location. They were playing Jingle Bell Rock just before noon on my CC Radio Plus. ? -- Starting around 2 p.m., there was a strong "beating" rhythm on top of WBZ, which had sounded like it was using 50 kW. But even at 10 kW, I've never heard that before here either, that long before sunset. Just before 3, they were playing Neil Diamond. The audible went away right around 3, but there's still some beating -- although less. Later on, I'm going to check the FCC to see if any stations on 1030 have reduced critical hours power that might have kicked in at 3. ? I already was thinking this winter might be good for DX-ing -- after I heard KOA in the clear for several minutes a week or two ago at around 6 or 7 p.m. EST. Very rare here in the last couple decades -- very, very rare. ???However, what I heard today seems way beyond anything I'm familiar with even during a really good late January for DX-ing. ? From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 4 01:12:30 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:12:30 -0500 Subject: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! In-Reply-To: <4058B0E641C1490BADEA3BACA5D9228F@DBTOA000> References: <406403.80527.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, <4058B0E641C1490BADEA3BACA5D9228F@DBTOA000> Message-ID: <4B18A84E.11584.6335B4@joe.attorneyross.com> On 3 Dec 2009 at 20:02, John Allen wrote: > This anomalously good propagation is due to the current extended solar > minimum combined with a short (1 day more or less) minimum, where the > solar K index is 0 on a scale of 0 to 9, meaning that D layer daytime > absorption is very low. Also, historically early Dec, is a time of > very low absorption, whan stations from Japan can be contacted on 1.8 > Mhz. Funny, I thought it was solar activity that produced better DX, not inactivity. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Fri Dec 4 04:17:36 2009 From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 01:17:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! Message-ID: <567460.62104.qm@web112119.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >--- On Thu, 12/3/09, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > WGSF, according to Flinn Broadcasting's > own website is broadcasting in spanish as Radio Ambiente. > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:02 PM, > Dan.Strassberg > wrote: > WGSF Memphis TN on 1030 runs 50 > kW-D, 10 kW-CH, 1 kW-N DA-N (three > towers in-line protecting WBZ). The D and CH operations are > ND. The format is Black Gospel, I believe. The distance between > WGSF and WBZ is 1135 miles. ???WGSF may be the Spanish signal I get here every day at around sunset -- not cutting back to the critical hours power, perhaps? But I'm thinking that wasn't my Neil Diamond station on Thursday. ???With the now-explained unusual propagation conditions, the possible stations are several -- especially a few 50 kW daytime-only stations. Like, WWGB, Indian Head, Md., 50 kW, DA. That's a regular visitor at my home on winter mornings -- as late as 8 or 9 a.m. That station should have a critical hours license. ???A couple additional stations on 1030 kHz are required to reduce power during critical hours -- including daytimer WBGS, Point Pleasant, W.V., 50 kW day, directional; 2.9 kW critical hours, non-DA. ???Maryland and West Virginia are the closest to Boston of the stations on 1030. ???The earliest time I could find that any station would be switching to critical hours power was 3:30 p.m., EST, awhile later than when I thought I heard the audible signal go away. Maybe what I heard was just a fluctuation. ???The other with critical hours operation is WNVR, Vernon Hills, Ill. (just outside Chicago). The license is 10 kW day, 3.2 kW critical hours, 0.12 kW night, DA-3. It has an application pending for 27 kW day, 8 kW critical hours, 0.21 kW night, DA-3. ???And in the micro-trivia department: A very old daytime-only station on 1030, KCTA, Corpus Christi, Texas, 50 kW, is licensed to operate from sunrise at Boston to its local sunset. Somewhere in the mist of radio history there's a story that goes with that, I'm sure.? From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Dec 4 06:29:16 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:29:16 -0500 Subject: WAMG returns Message-ID: AM 890 was back // WLLH (Lowell and Lawrence) 1400 (La Nuevo Mega) last night, Thursday 12/3/09, sometime after 8:30PM. It was still on after 10:00PM last night and was still on (or was back on--can't talk about the overnight; I was asleep) this morning ~5:00AM. Whoever predicted that WAMG would be back in November (it was Bob Bittner, I think) missed by a mere three days. I guess the WAMG calls, after a gap of many years, once again stand for Mega, even though, this time, Mega is not the name of the station owner. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From bob.bosra@demattia.net Fri Dec 4 06:42:48 2009 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:42:48 -0500 Subject: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! In-Reply-To: <567460.62104.qm@web112119.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <567460.62104.qm@web112119.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: WWGB is Spanish religious WNVR is Polish WBGS is oldies So my money is on you hearing WBGS. I've found that if you type 'radio 1030' (or any other frequency) into Wikipedia you get something like the following. Since the summary lines mostly show the location and format of each station, it's very helpful for DX'ing when you want to figure out what you're hearing. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=radio+1030&go=Go -Bob On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Martin Waters wrote: > >--- On Thu, 12/3/09, Paul B. Walker, Jr. > wrote: > > WGSF, according to Flinn Broadcasting's > > own website is broadcasting in spanish as Radio Ambiente. > > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:02 PM, > > Dan.Strassberg > > wrote: > > WGSF Memphis TN on 1030 runs 50 > > kW-D, 10 kW-CH, 1 kW-N DA-N (three > > towers in-line protecting WBZ). The D and CH operations are > > ND. The format is Black Gospel, I believe. The distance between > > WGSF and WBZ is 1135 miles. > > WGSF may be the Spanish signal I get here every day at around sunset -- > not cutting back to the critical hours power, perhaps? But I'm thinking that > wasn't my Neil Diamond station on Thursday. > > With the now-explained unusual propagation conditions, the possible > stations are several -- especially a few 50 kW daytime-only stations. Like, > WWGB, Indian Head, Md., 50 kW, DA. That's a regular visitor at my home on > winter mornings -- as late as 8 or 9 a.m. That station should have a > critical hours license. > > A couple additional stations on 1030 kHz are required to reduce power > during critical hours -- including daytimer WBGS, Point Pleasant, W.V., 50 > kW day, directional; 2.9 kW critical hours, non-DA. > > Maryland and West Virginia are the closest to Boston of the stations on > 1030. > > The earliest time I could find that any station would be switching to > critical hours power was 3:30 p.m., EST, awhile later than when I thought I > heard the audible signal go away. Maybe what I heard was just a fluctuation. > > The other with critical hours operation is WNVR, Vernon Hills, Ill. > (just outside Chicago). The license is 10 kW day, 3.2 kW critical hours, > 0.12 kW night, DA-3. It has an application pending for 27 kW day, 8 kW > critical hours, 0.21 kW night, DA-3. > > And in the micro-trivia department: A very old daytime-only station on > 1030, KCTA, Corpus Christi, Texas, 50 kW, is licensed to operate from > sunrise at Boston to its local sunset. Somewhere in the mist of radio > history there's a story that goes with that, I'm sure. > > > > > > > From bob.bosra@demattia.net Fri Dec 4 06:59:22 2009 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:59:22 -0500 Subject: WAMG returns In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, it's currently battling it out with WLS here in Northborough. -Bob From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Fri Dec 4 07:00:13 2009 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 04:00:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: WAMG returns In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <956055.26661.qm@web50801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> It was nice to be able to listen to "The Big 89", WLS again for a couple of months, clear as a bell. Ah, but alas.... that "Dedham" station is back. *sigh* Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > From: Dan.Strassberg > Subject: WAMG returns > To: "Boston Radio Interest" > Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 6:29 AM > AM 890 was back // WLLH (Lowell and > Lawrence) 1400 (La Nuevo Mega) > last night, Thursday 12/3/09, sometime after 8:30PM. It was > still on > after 10:00PM last night and was still on (or was back > on--can't talk > about the overnight; I was asleep) this morning ~5:00AM. > Whoever > predicted that WAMG would be back in November (it was Bob > Bittner, I > think) missed by a mere three days. > > I guess the WAMG calls, after a gap of many years, once > again stand > for Mega, even though, this time, Mega is not the name of > the station > owner. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Dec 4 08:32:54 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:32:54 -0500 Subject: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! References: <567460.62104.qm@web112119.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1FCDBACBE2BB4C3597717DD0E7124977@SatU205S5044> WWGB's day pattern supposedly protects WBZ during critical hours as well as during the remainder of daylight. The pattern does indeed have a broad, deep minimum to the northeast. When WWGB first went on the air (60's?), its calls were WBZE. Supposedly, the calls were selected so that people in the listening area, which includes Washington DC, would think they were listening to WBZ day and night because WBZ has a killer nighttime signal there. As for KCTA, back in the '40s, when it was KWBU and I think was 50 kW ND all day (the FCC hadn't yet invented critical hours), Westinghouse tried to get the FCC to force KWBU to sign off at Boston sunset, which would have been 3:15PM in south Texas in December. I know that during critical hours, KCTA's daytime skywave really gets out; I've seen DX reports from places about 1000 miles from Corpus Christie. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Waters" To: "Jr.Paul B. Walker" Cc: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:17 AM Subject: Re: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! With the now-explained unusual propagation conditions, the possible stations are several -- especially a few 50 kW daytime-only stations. Like, WWGB, Indian Head, Md., 50 kW, DA. That's a regular visitor at my home on winter mornings -- as late as 8 or 9 a.m. That station should have a critical hours license. A couple additional stations on 1030 kHz are required to reduce power during critical hours -- including daytimer WBGS, Point Pleasant, W.V., 50 kW day, directional; 2.9 kW critical hours, non-DA. Maryland and West Virginia are the closest to Boston of the stations on 1030. The earliest time I could find that any station would be switching to critical hours power was 3:30 p.m., EST, awhile later than when I thought I heard the audible signal go away. Maybe what I heard was just a fluctuation. The other with critical hours operation is WNVR, Vernon Hills, Ill. (just outside Chicago). The license is 10 kW day, 3.2 kW critical hours, 0.12 kW night, DA-3. It has an application pending for 27 kW day, 8 kW critical hours, 0.21 kW night, DA-3. And in the micro-trivia department: A very old daytime-only station on 1030, KCTA, Corpus Christi, Texas, 50 kW, is licensed to operate from sunrise at Boston to its local sunset. Somewhere in the mist of radio history there's a story that goes with that, I'm sure. From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Fri Dec 4 10:35:35 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 10:35:35 -0500 Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? Message-ID: I remember as a kid in the 50's doing it almost every night with my "Hi-Tech" GE transistor radio tucked under my pillow. I had a ton of QSL cards from all over the Nation. Is this a lost hobby? I imagine with all the changes in FCC allocation and power rules it's tough. I hadn't thought of this question in years. Thanks. Ted From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Dec 4 11:00:48 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:00:48 -0500 Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? References: Message-ID: Believe it or not, Medium-Wave (and Long-Wave) DXing still exist as hobbies. There are still organizations of DXers, and Internet e-mail lists for reporting the latest catches and doping out the call signs of un-IDed stations. These organizations continue to send vans stuffed with avid DXers, receivers, and the makings of antennas to "hot spots" in places such as Newfoundland and coastal Oregon every year to catch, record, and ID the signals from other continents. DXers are almost 100% male and their average age seems to increase every year. But a few younger rare birds seem to join the ranks from time to time. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Larsen" To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? I remember as a kid in the 50's doing it almost every night with my "Hi-Tech" GE transistor radio tucked under my pillow. I had a ton of QSL cards from all over the Nation. Is this a lost hobby? I imagine with all the changes in FCC allocation and power rules it's tough. I hadn't thought of this question in years. Thanks. Ted From aerie.ma@comcast.net Fri Dec 4 11:01:47 2009 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:01:47 -0500 Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86AE3F7B94A44352A5C9945EC7CB9169@CHEM214> It's really hard these days to find a decent portable radio that has decent sound and a decent AM section. I too used to use a little GE transistor to listen to Woo Woo Ginsburg when my parents thought I was asleep, and I just don't believe the sound on portable radios then was as bad as it is now. I have bought (and tossed) numerous small radios that just sound awful and either barely pull in the local AM stations or get overloaded from them. I live in the Andover area, and I had one digital portable from a certain national electronics chain that received WLLH from 1050 to 1600 kHz. I finally broke down and bought a Sangean ATS909 all band radio at YouDoIt. What an improvement! Much better sound and much better DXing on AM. But it's fairly expensive. More recently I bought a CCRadio 2 for my mother for Xmas, and that sounds even better (AM/FM/WX only though). It's a little bulky for a portable though even though it runs on batteries (4 D cells) as well as wall current. The sound quality especially on voice is much better, and the reception is great on AM. It was about half the price of the Sangean, but still over $100. I think programming also affects the loss of DX as a hobby. With so many stations carrying only national programming these days, there's not much point listening just to hear the top of hour ID when the same program is also on your local station. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Ted Larsen Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:36 AM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? I remember as a kid in the 50's doing it almost every night with my "Hi-Tech" GE transistor radio tucked under my pillow. I had a ton of QSL cards from all over the Nation. Is this a lost hobby? I imagine with all the changes in FCC allocation and power rules it's tough. I hadn't thought of this question in years. Thanks. Ted From dave@skywaves.net Fri Dec 4 11:18:02 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:18:02 -0500 Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <321D2162520C4697A4942EA08DEF8E4E@dave> One of my clients up on Alaska put a new AM on the air. About a month ago, he got a QSL request from someplace in Scandanavia. So it's not a totally lost hobby. If you Google "QSL Cards" you'll come up with a bunch of people who make them up, -d -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ted Larsen" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 AM To: Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? > > I remember as a kid in the 50's doing it almost every night with my > "Hi-Tech" GE transistor radio tucked under my pillow. I had a ton of QSL > cards from all over the Nation. Is this a lost hobby? I imagine with all > the changes in FCC allocation and power rules it's tough. I hadn't thought > of this question in years. > > Thanks. > Ted > From bob.bosra@demattia.net Fri Dec 4 11:42:51 2009 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:42:51 -0500 Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? In-Reply-To: <86AE3F7B94A44352A5C9945EC7CB9169@CHEM214> References: <86AE3F7B94A44352A5C9945EC7CB9169@CHEM214> Message-ID: I still have my 7-4870 GE clock radio, purchased at Lechmere Sales in Dedham in 1977, next to my bed. It has a very selective digital tuner (very unique back then) that could pick out KDKA on 1020 with WBZ right next door. The HD hash from WBZ makes this impossible now, but it's still a nice radio. In my home office, I have a Ten-Tec Omni VII ham radio transceiver, which includes a general coverage receiver, connected to an external long-wire antenna. It is slight overkill for AM DXing, but it sure makes it fun What is nice is I can adjust the bandwidth of the receiver continuously from a 100 Hz to 10KHz. If the adjacents are clear, I can expand it for better fidelity. When the adjacents aren't clear, I just narrow the bandwidth to where it sounds good. Since it also has an SSB mode, I can also pickup stations using only one of the sidebands - good for when one adjacent is clear but the other one isn't. I also have a newer Superradio III for portable operation. While it has a sensitive receiver, and the sound is nice, it's difficult to use for DXing, as it has a not-very-well-calibrated analog dial and the tuning knob isn't very precise - I guess the work "slushy" is how to describe it. I agree the regulatory and programming changes have made DXing more challenging and sometimes less rewarding. I find myself often trying to figure out where the signal is coming from based on program content (checked against internet information) or ferreting out the locally inserted commercials on syndicated shows (anything to avoid having to wait until the top of the hour - some of the programming is excruciating to listen to!) . For me, DXing is now more about be able to receive new stations than about finding them so I can listen to them. -Bob From jibguy@aol.com Fri Dec 4 12:15:46 2009 From: jibguy@aol.com (jibguy@aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:15:46 EST Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? Photos of 1965 QSLs Message-ID: <2261.77b7934d.384a9dc2@aol.com> If anyone wants to see photos of my approximately 80 QSL cards I wrote away for back in 1965, please email me. They are all on display at WJTO in Bath, Maine. From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Dec 4 12:27:16 2009 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:27:16 -0500 Subject: HD Comments Message-ID: <001501ca7507$0948fe80$1bdafb80$@com> Although I try to be low key about it, most of you know that I'm a pro audio dealer. When I say Eli's comments about the Sangean, a line that I represent, I took the liberty of forwarding the comment to the VP of Sangean for his thoughts. Below is his reply to my comments. Say what you will about the receivers, I'm very impressed by their dedication to customer satisfaction. Eli, if you're interested in his offer, please contact me directly. Brian Pro Cinema - Pro Audio - Pro & Consumer AV Equipment & Supplies Brian Vita President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 brian_vita@cssinc.com AIM: btvita tel: fax: 978-538-7575 978-538-7550 From: Selwyn Wynstock Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:01 PM To: brian_vita@cssinc.com Subject: RE: What's being said about your product Hi Brian Its nice having an opportunity to say hello to you regardless of the circumstances. Sorry to learn of Eli?s problem and we would certainly like the opportunity to rectify the problem. Please talk to him and allow us to send him a brand new HD radio before he purchases a new HD radio. I?m sure there?s a simple answer to his problem as we have hundreds of Sangean HD radios being used by satisfied customers throughout the U.S. Assure him that should the new Sangean HD radio still not perform to his satisfaction we will make sure that his 20% off coupon at ?You Do It? electronics is honored at any time. >From your email it sounds like he owns one of our HD Tuners. If he agrees to our offer please find out which model he has and have him email us where he would like the new unit sent. Looking forward to your letter to proceed. Thanks again for contacting us. Sincerely Selwyn Wynstock VP Marketing/Sales ct: What's being said about your product Selwyn, I?m a member of the ?Boston Radio Interest? group.? Recently they started discussing HD radio tuners.? Here?s a comment that was made that I thought that you might want to be aware of. Brian Pro Cinema - Pro Audio - Pro & Consumer AV Equipment & Supplies Brian Vita President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 brian_vita@cssinc.com AIM: btvita tel: fax: 978-538-7575 978-538-7550 Want to always have my latest info? Want a signature like this? -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Richard Chonak Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:11 PM To: 'bri' Subject: HD tuners (was: WCRB website down) Eli Polonsky wrote: >> > However, I was pleased to find that the "iLuv" HD > clock radio has the best HD tuner I've heard yet. > I knew it would have no problem with 89.7 HD2 in > Newton, but it also gets 99.5 in HD despite the > hill blocking the signal! It also has no problem > with the Boston HD3 signals even six miles away > behind the hill. My Sangean won't decode HD3's at > all at my Somerville apartment three miles line > of sight of the Pru. I'm planning to replace my > Sangean with an "iLuv" radio this week while my > 20% off coupon at You-Do-It Electronics is good. Thanks for bringing up this subject.??? Does anyone know whether there's ? any buying advice about HD radio tuners/receivers available on the 'net, beyond what Eli has mentioned? This could become a regular FAQ topic, perhaps deserving of its own page on the bostonradio.org web site! --RC From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Dec 4 13:17:23 2009 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:17:23 -0500 Subject: HD Comments In-Reply-To: <001501ca7507$0948fe80$1bdafb80$@com> References: <001501ca7507$0948fe80$1bdafb80$@com> Message-ID: <37933AC5-C253-41AC-BC93-B9BE2E031B20@comcast.net> I wonder if Eli has a problem receiving the HD3 of WGBH on the Sangean? Mine (the HDT-1X) picks up that one and 98.5's just fine. It does however have a problem with 100.7's HD3 at times, and almost never picks up the HD3 of 104.1. Some have thought that it is an issue on the stations' end rather than the receiver. My Sony S3HD behaves exactly the same as the Sangean, while the Kenwood in the car has no problem. Could it be that the Kenwood has newer HD decoding hardware/ software that is better equipped to handle HD3s? Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA On Dec 4, 2009, at 12:27 PM, "Brian Vita" wrote: > Although I try to be low key about it, most of you know that I'm a > pro audio > dealer. When I say Eli's comments about the Sangean, a line that I > represent, I took the liberty of forwarding the comment to the VP of > Sangean > for his thoughts. Below is his reply to my comments. > > Say what you will about the receivers, I'm very impressed by their > dedication to customer satisfaction. > > Eli, if you're interested in his offer, please contact me directly. > > Brian > > > > > Pro Cinema - Pro Audio - Pro & Consumer AV Equipment & Supplies > > > Brian Vita > President > Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. > 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 > Peabody, MA 01960-5691 > brian_vita@cssinc.com > AIM: btvita > tel: > fax: > 978-538-7575 > 978-538-7550 > > > > > > > > > From: Selwyn Wynstock > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:01 PM > To: brian_vita@cssinc.com > Subject: RE: What's being said about your product > > Hi Brian > Its nice having an opportunity to say hello to you regardless of the > circumstances. > Sorry to learn of Eli?s problem and we would certainly like the oppo > rtunity > to rectify the problem. Please talk to him and allow us to send him > a brand > new HD radio before he purchases a new HD radio. I?m sure > there?s a simple > answer to his problem as we have hundreds of Sangean HD radios being > used by > satisfied customers throughout the U.S. Assure him that should the new > Sangean HD radio still not perform to his satisfaction we will make > sure > that his 20% off coupon at ?You Do It? electronics is honored at > any time. >> From your email it sounds like he owns one of our HD Tuners. If he >> agrees to > our offer please find out which model he has and have him email us > where he > would like the new unit sent. > Looking forward to your letter to proceed. > Thanks again for contacting us. > Sincerely > Selwyn Wynstock > VP Marketing/Sales > > > ct: What's being said about your product > > Selwyn, > > I?m a member of the ?Boston Radio Interest? group. Recently > they started > discussing HD radio tuners. Here?s a comment that was made that I t > hought > that you might want to be aware of. > > Brian > > > Pro Cinema - Pro Audio - Pro & Consumer AV Equipment & Supplies > > > Brian Vita > President > Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. > 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 > Peabody, MA 01960-5691 > brian_vita@cssinc.com > AIM: btvita > tel: > fax: > 978-538-7575 > 978-538-7550 > > > > > > Want to always have my latest info? > Want a signature like this? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On > Behalf Of > Richard Chonak > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:11 PM > To: 'bri' > Subject: HD tuners (was: WCRB website down) > > Eli Polonsky wrote: >>> >> However, I was pleased to find that the "iLuv" HD >> clock radio has the best HD tuner I've heard yet. >> I knew it would have no problem with 89.7 HD2 in >> Newton, but it also gets 99.5 in HD despite the >> hill blocking the signal! It also has no problem >> with the Boston HD3 signals even six miles away >> behind the hill. My Sangean won't decode HD3's at >> all at my Somerville apartment three miles line >> of sight of the Pru. I'm planning to replace my >> Sangean with an "iLuv" radio this week while my >> 20% off coupon at You-Do-It Electronics is good. > > > Thanks for bringing up this subject. Does anyone know whether > there's > any buying advice about HD radio tuners/receivers available on the > 'net, beyond what Eli has mentioned? > > This could become a regular FAQ topic, perhaps deserving of its own > page > on the bostonradio.org web site! > > --RC > From peterwmurray@gmail.com Fri Dec 4 12:44:12 2009 From: peterwmurray@gmail.com (Peter Murray) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:44:12 -0500 Subject: HD tuners (was: WCRB website down) In-Reply-To: <4B149756.5010305@server4.gabrielmass.com> References: <9747421.1259638022589.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4B149756.5010305@server4.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: My experience here in the expansive DC suburban sprawl has been pretty good with the couple of HD tuners available to me. In my experience, IBOC Digital broadcast is not going to be reliable with the typical moderately-optimized inside antenna installation outside a 15 mile radius from a typical class B FM (assuming indoor reception with moderate rolling terrain between the receiver and transmitter). If there is much (if any) non-multipath noise on the received signal, you'll have a lower likelihood of holding (or even achieving) HD lock. As far as specific equipment is concerned, I own two Radio Shack Accurian HD table radios and one Sony XDR-F1HD tuner, and I have been very happy with their collective performance. The Sony is widely regarded as having one of the best FM front-ends of any tuner out there (analog or digital). See Brian Beezley's thorough (and technical) report on his findings with this unit (at http://www.ham-radio.com/k6sti/xdr-f1hd.htm ). If you are trying to receive signals in a difficult environment, I highly recommend the (relatively inexpensive) Sony. When I finally get my external antenna up at the house, I expect to be able to pull in FM HD signals from Baltimore and further afield. Will report back what success I do achieve! The Accurian HD table radio has both good frequency response from its stereo speakers and has a reasonably good front end. Reception is very good on the analog side, and as good as can be expected on the digital. At my house (about 15 miles LOS from the main FM transmission site in NW DC), I can have some trouble keeping FM HD lock if the antenna isn't in the right place, though it is reliable once in the right spot (and the right spot isn't hard to find). I have had no AM HD reception at all at my house. In my 3rd-floor office in the Ballston section of Arlington (about 4.5 miles LOS, in amongst a number of tall buildings, with horrid mobile phone reception when inside), I have absolutely reliable FM HD reception of all facilities in the local DC metro area. I am able to receive only one AM HD signal in Ballston, from 980AM - and it does sound much better than the analog, albeit with some digital artifacts (which can be tiring after a while). There is a lot of HD Radio gear on eBay, from the many who have been frustrated by the lack of receivable signals (and/or good content). Look there for some very good deals - I just picked up the second Accurian last week for $32! -Peter -- Peter Murray (N3IXY) Reston, VA On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Richard Chonak wrote: > Eli Polonsky wrote: >>> >> However, I was pleased to find that the "iLuv" HD >> clock radio has the best HD tuner I've heard yet. >> I knew it would have no problem with 89.7 HD2 in >> Newton, but it also gets 99.5 in HD despite the hill blocking the signal! >> It also has no problem >> with the Boston HD3 signals even six miles away behind the hill. My >> Sangean won't decode HD3's at >> all at my Somerville apartment three miles line of sight of the Pru. I'm >> planning to replace my >> Sangean with an "iLuv" radio this week while my >> 20% off coupon at You-Do-It Electronics is good. > > > Thanks for bringing up this subject. ? ?Does anyone know whether there's > ?any buying advice about HD radio tuners/receivers available on the 'net, > beyond what Eli has mentioned? > > This could become a regular FAQ topic, perhaps deserving of its own page on > the bostonradio.org web site! > > --RC > > From markwa1ion@aol.com Fri Dec 4 14:57:57 2009 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:57:57 -0500 Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC4333354DF8F5-2EAC-B29A@webmail-m016.sysops.aol.com> There are still many active AM DXers around the world. The largest club in the US is the National Radio Club. There is also the International Radio Club of America, which is more oriented to the western states and western Canadian provinces. Internationally there are many more clubs, both of the paper-bulletin and Internet user group / blog variety. Two developments over the past few years have actually invigorated the hobby. They are on quite opposite ends of the receiver capability scale (though digital signal processing - DSP - technology gets involved with both). On the high end of things are the computer-operated Software Defined Receivers (SDR's) such as the Microtelecom Perseus and the RFSpace SDR-IQ. These allow recording a large bandwidth (in the case of Perseus, the entire AM broadcast band) for later replay that is indistinguishable from listening live. This has been a great advantage to those of us who occasionally drive out to prime seashore sites around local sunset to "scoop up" as much exotic foreign DX as can be found. A local group, Boston Area DXers, go out to Granite Pier in Rockport every so often. One of these outings, including logs made on SDR-IQ and Perseus receivers, is online at "http://www.naswa.net/badx/dxclams2009.htm". On the other side of the receiver spectrum are the "ultralights". These are simple radios like the pocket transistor sets of yesteryear, though in some cases nowaday, possessing digital readouts and even DSP-enhanced filtering. Nostalgia may have been the original motivator for ultralight interest, but DXers on the West Coast were soon finding that they could sometimes log Trans-Pacific stations on radios that fit in the pocket (there is an "ultralight standards committee" that has set a maximum size limit for these). Then people got the idea to hack into the radios with an assortment of antenna and circuit enhancements to improve reception. This has taken on a cult like status and worldwide following, similar to "boatanchor" (tube equipment) or "QRP" (low power) aficionados in the ham radio community. So yes, DXing is very much alive. Scandinavia has always been totally nutty for it and there aren't any signs of that changing soon. If you Google topics such as ultralight radio, Perseus SDR, SDR-IQ, AM DX, loop antenna, Beverage antenna, Flag antenna, National Radio Club, Medium Wave Circle, IRCA, Newfoundland DXpedition, Grayland DXpedition, etc. (or the names of heavyweight contributors such as Dallas Lankford, Bruce Conti, Guy Atkins, John Bryant, Bjarne Mjelde, Mauno Ritola, etc.) you will have days worth of things to read, schematics and photos to check, audio clips to enjoy, and maybe even a few clubs you'll want to investigate joining. Regarding the stations that started this discussion: 1030 music under WBZ: probably the West Virginia station that has been noted previously in this area before their sunset power-down 1010 music mixed with WINS: likely the NH station. There's also Portsmouth, VA. CFRB Toronto, an all-talker, is the usual 1010 nuisance later at night Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA << From: Dan.Strassberg To: Ted Larsen ; boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Still Do AM Radio DXing? Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:00:48 -0500 Believe it or not, Medium-Wave (and Long-Wave) DXing still exist as hobbies. There are still organizations of DXers, and Internet e-mail lists for reporting the latest catches and doping out the call signs of un-IDed stations. These organizations continue to send vans stuffed with avid DXers, receivers, and the makings of antennas to "hot spots" in places such as Newfoundland and coastal Oregon every year to catch, record, and ID the signals from other continents. DXers are almost 100% male and their average age seems to increase every year. But a few younger rare birds seem to join the ranks from time to time. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Larsen" To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? I remember as a kid in the 50's doing it almost every night with my "Hi-Tech" GE transistor radio tucked under my pillow. I had a ton of QSL cards from all over the Nation. Is this a lost hobby? I imagine with all the changes in FCC allocation and power rules it's tough. I hadn't thought of this question in years. Thanks. Ted >> From aerie.ma@comcast.net Fri Dec 4 16:46:45 2009 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:46:45 -0500 Subject: MW DX Message-ID: <92E95D29C1B140DC95A98E1F6CFE8137@fs.uml.edu> Speaking of DX of mediumwave stations, there are a couple of videos on youtube of listeners DXing WWZN in Scotland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKgI7m8t58o&feature=related I can barely hear 'em in Andover.but they can hear 'em in Scotland! From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Fri Dec 4 17:54:15 2009 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 17:54:15 -0500 Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? References: Message-ID: <002101ca7534$b52f3700$8e9c4c0c@oemcomputer> I wish I could still DX. For the past three years, there's been a loud "rat-a-tat-a-tat" noise (reminiscent of the "Russian Woodpecker" that plagued shortwave in the '70s, but without the fluctuations in strength and volume) over a broad frequency range -- from longwave through medium wave through about 10 mHz shortwave -- from sundown to sunrise 24/7 at my home location and the surrounding neighborhood. It's audible two streets away and extends about one-quarter mile down my street. No idea what it could be, and the utility company doesn't send crews to check on things like this that happen only at night (it would be overtime for them), so I guess I'm stuck. Before this started, I would often DX the AM band, as I have off and on since I was a kid in the '60s. The radio under the pillow, though, was strictly for listening to WMEX or WABC after "bedtime," not for DXing; there was a vintage tabletop AM/SW receiver in the bedroom for that! Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted Larsen To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? I remember as a kid in the 50's doing it almost every night with my "Hi-Tech" GE transistor radio tucked under my pillow. I had a ton of QSL cards from all over the Nation. Is this a lost hobby? I imagine with all the changes in FCC allocation and power rules it's tough. I hadn't thought of this question in years. Thanks. Ted From paul@derrynh.net Fri Dec 4 18:20:35 2009 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 18:20:35 -0500 Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? Photos of 1965 QSLs In-Reply-To: <2261.77b7934d.384a9dc2@aol.com> References: <2261.77b7934d.384a9dc2@aol.com> Message-ID: <344A1303CFD9432C91A69C558EDA158B@PaulPC> Now that I'm going to Freeport every weekend, I will have to make the short hop over to Bath....(No CKAC en Francais in Freeport) -Paul Hopfgarten -Derry NH/Freeport ME ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 12:15 PM Subject: Re: Still Do AM Radio DXing? Photos of 1965 QSLs > If anyone wants to see photos of my approximately 80 QSL cards I wrote > away > for back in 1965, please email me. They are all on display at WJTO in > Bath, Maine. > From hykker@wildblue.net Fri Dec 4 22:15:10 2009 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:15:10 -0500 Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? In-Reply-To: <321D2162520C4697A4942EA08DEF8E4E@dave> References: <321D2162520C4697A4942EA08DEF8E4E@dave> Message-ID: <4b19d06a.4801be0a.21fd.ffffca4e@mx.google.com> Dave Doherty wrote: >One of my clients up on Alaska put a new AM on the air. About a >month ago, he got a QSL request from someplace in Scandanavia. So >it's not a totally lost hobby. About a year ago we got a reception report from Norway (I think) of WSNO Barre, Vt. He emailed us an mp3 of the legal ID. It was down "in the mud" but definitely there. I think we sent him a bumper sticker as a "QSL". From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Dec 5 10:36:14 2009 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald Astell) Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:36:14 +0000 Subject: wrko sat am? Message-ID: <197572.81281.qm@smtp127-mob.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Who is this dude on wrko this morning at10:30am, talking abot god? Very strange! ---------- Sent from my Verizon Wireless mobile phone ------Original Message------ From: SteveOrdinetz To: Date: Fri, Dec 4, 10:15 PM -0500 Subject: Re: Still Do AM Radio DXing? Dave Doherty wrote: >One of my clients up on Alaska put a new AM on the air. About a >month ago, he got a QSL request from someplace in Scandanavia. So >it's not a totally lost hobby. About a year ago we got a reception report from Norway (I think) of WSNO Barre, Vt. He emailed us an mp3 of the legal ID. It was down "in the mud" but definitely there. I think we sent him a bumper sticker as a "QSL". From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Sat Dec 5 11:43:13 2009 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 08:43:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! In-Reply-To: <1FCDBACBE2BB4C3597717DD0E7124977@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <763426.97690.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> During the WBZE days, I believe, during their sign-off, they said to listeners "Stand by WBZ/Boston, coming up next!" (*carrier dumped*). It that true? Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > From: Dan.Strassberg > Subject: Re: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! > To: "Martin Waters" , "Jr.Paul B. Walker" > Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 8:32 AM > WWGB's day pattern supposedly > protects WBZ during critical hours as > well as during the remainder of daylight. The pattern does > indeed have > a broad, deep minimum to the northeast. When WWGB first > went on the > air (60's?), its calls were WBZE. Supposedly, the calls > were selected > so that people in the listening area, which includes > Washington DC, > would think they were listening to WBZ day and night > because WBZ has a > killer nighttime signal there. > > As for KCTA, back in the '40s, when it was KWBU and I think > was 50 kW > ND all day (the FCC hadn't yet invented critical hours), > Westinghouse > tried to get the FCC to force KWBU to sign off at Boston > sunset, which > would have been 3:15PM in south Texas in December. I know > that during > critical hours, KCTA's daytime skywave really gets out; > I've seen DX > reports from places about 1000 miles from Corpus Christie. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Waters" > To: "Jr.Paul B. Walker" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:17 AM > Subject: Re: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! > > > With the now-explained unusual propagation conditions, the > possible > stations are several -- especially a few 50 kW daytime-only > stations. > Like, WWGB, Indian Head, Md., 50 kW, DA. That's a regular > visitor at > my home on winter mornings -- as late as 8 or 9 a.m. That > station > should have a critical hours license. > > A couple additional stations on 1030 kHz are required to > reduce power > during critical hours -- including daytimer WBGS, Point > Pleasant, > W.V., 50 kW day, directional; 2.9 kW critical hours, > non-DA. > > Maryland and West Virginia are the closest to Boston of the > stations > on 1030. > > The earliest time I could find that any station would be > switching to > critical hours power was 3:30 p.m., EST, awhile later than > when I > thought I heard the audible signal go away. Maybe what I > heard was > just a fluctuation. > > The other with critical hours operation is WNVR, Vernon > Hills, Ill. > (just outside Chicago). The license is 10 kW day, 3.2 kW > critical > hours, 0.12 kW night, DA-3. It has an application pending > for 27 kW > day, 8 kW critical hours, 0.21 kW night, DA-3. > > And in the micro-trivia department: A very old daytime-only > station on > 1030, KCTA, Corpus Christi, Texas, 50 kW, is licensed to > operate from > sunrise at Boston to its local sunset. Somewhere in the > mist of radio > history there's a story that goes with that, I'm sure. > > > > > > > From mariogonz@aol.com Fri Dec 4 11:25:11 2009 From: mariogonz@aol.com (Mario Gonzalez Jr.) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:25:11 -0500 Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? In-Reply-To: <86AE3F7B94A44352A5C9945EC7CB9169@CHEM214> References: <86AE3F7B94A44352A5C9945EC7CB9169@CHEM214> Message-ID: <4B1937E7.2050107@aol.com> When I was younger and I lived in New York City, I used to love to listen to AM stations from all around the northeast and midwest. I would love listening to the various baseball games on stations from Philadelphia, Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, etc. At night, I would listen to WOWO, after WLIB went off the air. I would hear the music and the hockey games (I can't remember the name of the team now). I would also listen to music on stations from Buffalo, Albany and Windsor Ontario. With these stations being on the internet, I can still listen to them and I can hear baseball games so maybe the hobby isn't quite dead, but different. Mario On 12/4/2009 11:01 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > It's really hard these days to find a decent portable radio that has decent > sound and a decent AM section. I too used to use a little GE transistor to > listen to Woo Woo Ginsburg when my parents thought I was asleep, and I just > don't believe the sound on portable radios then was as bad as it is now. > > I have bought (and tossed) numerous small radios that just sound awful and > either barely pull in the local AM stations or get overloaded from them. I > live in the Andover area, and I had one digital portable from a certain > national electronics chain that received WLLH from 1050 to 1600 kHz. > > I finally broke down and bought a Sangean ATS909 all band radio at YouDoIt. > What an improvement! Much better sound and much better DXing on AM. But it's > fairly expensive. > > More recently I bought a CCRadio 2 for my mother for Xmas, and that sounds > even better (AM/FM/WX only though). It's a little bulky for a portable > though even though it runs on batteries (4 D cells) as well as wall current. > The sound quality especially on voice is much better, and the reception is > great on AM. It was about half the price of the Sangean, but still over > $100. > > I think programming also affects the loss of DX as a hobby. With so many > stations carrying only national programming these days, there's not much > point listening just to hear the top of hour ID when the same program is > also on your local station. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Ted Larsen > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:36 AM > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? > > I remember as a kid in the 50's doing it almost every night with my > "Hi-Tech" GE transistor radio tucked under my pillow. I had a ton of QSL > cards from all over the Nation. Is this a lost hobby? I imagine with all the > changes in FCC allocation and power rules it's tough. I hadn't thought of > this question in years. > > Thanks. > Ted > > From mariogonz@aol.com Fri Dec 4 11:49:15 2009 From: mariogonz@aol.com (Mario Gonzalez Jr.) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:49:15 -0500 Subject: Internet Stream Sound Vs. Radio Sound Message-ID: <4B193D8B.2030501@aol.com> With all of the things I've read about the changeover of WQXR and WCRB and both being available on the internet for those listeners who either can listen via computer or their mobile device, I'm wondering what you all think of the sound of music on internet streams vs. the radio. Since I listen to mostly internet radio, I prefer when music stations use 128 kbps streams. 64kbps streams, especially those that use AAC+ sound ok, but anything less for music doesn't sound good at all. I'll listen to lower bitrate streams if I am really interested in the station. For talk, almost any stream rate is good, but the higher ones sound better, of course. What I am wondering is how does this compare to the sound of FM radio and of HD radio? Does it really depend on the type of music? I've read various posts saying that streams of classical music just don't have the same sound as radio does, but I would think that a fast stream would be better than trying to hear a weaker FM station, for example WCRB. Mario From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Dec 5 15:19:25 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:19:25 -0500 Subject: WBUR revamps weekend lineup Message-ID: <014E1D11251D4B2E84A5B429C3C634E6@SatU205S5044> Cross-posted from the radio-info.com Boston board: In a move that is obviously aimed at blunting WGBH's attack on its weekend lineup, WBUR has changed the time at which several NPR programs air. WGBH now airs Wait, Wait! at 10:00AM Saturdays. So does WBUR now, although WBUR's feed this morning was approximately one second ahead of WGBH's. WBUR is also rebroadcasting Wait, Wait! at 2:00PM Saturday. Other affected shows include This American Life (moves to noon Saturdays on WBUR) and On the Media, which is now heard at 1:00PM Saturdays on WBUR. There are additional changes to both the Saturday and Sunday schedules on WBUR. See www.wbur.org. One can only hope that these moves don't presage the start of a battle for one-upmanship in scheduling between WBUR and WGBH, Changing program schedules can quickly annoy the audience to the point of becoming counterproductive. People actually do organize their routines around familiar and beloved prgrams. Listeners also feel that their contributions to public radio stations entitle them to input on matters such as scheduling. Push the audience too far in this regard and the result may be that a lot of listeners will sit on their wallets at pledge time. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Sat Dec 5 15:31:01 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:31:01 -0500 Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? References: <8CC4333354DF8F5-2EAC-B29A@webmail-m016.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <35DCD2B47BB24CEB96C00135FA3FFC67@YOURbcbbe822ed> Thanks so much. Wow, the things you learn if you just ask. This is great info. I may get back into the hobby. Regards, Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:57 PM Subject: Re: Still Do AM Radio DXing? There are still many active AM DXers around the world. The largest club in the US is the National Radio Club. There is also the International Radio Club of America, which is more oriented to the western states and western Canadian provinces. Internationally there are many more clubs, both of the paper-bulletin and Internet user group / blog variety. Two developments over the past few years have actually invigorated the hobby. They are on quite opposite ends of the receiver capability scale (though digital signal processing - DSP - technology gets involved with both). On the high end of things are the computer-operated Software Defined Receivers (SDR's) such as the Microtelecom Perseus and the RFSpace SDR-IQ. These allow recording a large bandwidth (in the case of Perseus, the entire AM broadcast band) for later replay that is indistinguishable from listening live. This has been a great advantage to those of us who occasionally drive out to prime seashore sites around local sunset to "scoop up" as much exotic foreign DX as can be found. A local group, Boston Area DXers, go out to Granite Pier in Rockport every so often. One of these outings, including logs made on SDR-IQ and Perseus receivers, is online at "http://www.naswa.net/badx/dxclams2009.htm". On the other side of the receiver spectrum are the "ultralights". These are simple radios like the pocket transistor sets of yesteryear, though in some cases nowaday, possessing digital readouts and even DSP-enhanced filtering. Nostalgia may have been the original motivator for ultralight interest, but DXers on the West Coast were soon finding that they could sometimes log Trans-Pacific stations on radios that fit in the pocket (there is an "ultralight standards committee" that has set a maximum size limit for these). Then people got the idea to hack into the radios with an assortment of antenna and circuit enhancements to improve reception. This has taken on a cult like status and worldwide following, similar to "boatanchor" (tube equipment) or "QRP" (low power) aficionados in the ham radio community. So yes, DXing is very much alive. Scandinavia has always been totally nutty for it and there aren't any signs of that changing soon. If you Google topics such as ultralight radio, Perseus SDR, SDR-IQ, AM DX, loop antenna, Beverage antenna, Flag antenna, National Radio Club, Medium Wave Circle, IRCA, Newfoundland DXpedition, Grayland DXpedition, etc. (or the names of heavyweight contributors such as Dallas Lankford, Bruce Conti, Guy Atkins, John Bryant, Bjarne Mjelde, Mauno Ritola, etc.) you will have days worth of things to read, schematics and photos to check, audio clips to enjoy, and maybe even a few clubs you'll want to investigate joining. Regarding the stations that started this discussion: 1030 music under WBZ: probably the West Virginia station that has been noted previously in this area before their sunset power-down 1010 music mixed with WINS: likely the NH station. There's also Portsmouth, VA. CFRB Toronto, an all-talker, is the usual 1010 nuisance later at night Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA << From: Dan.Strassberg To: Ted Larsen ; boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Still Do AM Radio DXing? Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:00:48 -0500 Believe it or not, Medium-Wave (and Long-Wave) DXing still exist as hobbies. There are still organizations of DXers, and Internet e-mail lists for reporting the latest catches and doping out the call signs of un-IDed stations. These organizations continue to send vans stuffed with avid DXers, receivers, and the makings of antennas to "hot spots" in places such as Newfoundland and coastal Oregon every year to catch, record, and ID the signals from other continents. DXers are almost 100% male and their average age seems to increase every year. But a few younger rare birds seem to join the ranks from time to time. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Larsen" To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? I remember as a kid in the 50's doing it almost every night with my "Hi-Tech" GE transistor radio tucked under my pillow. I had a ton of QSL cards from all over the Nation. Is this a lost hobby? I imagine with all the changes in FCC allocation and power rules it's tough. I hadn't thought of this question in years. Thanks. Ted >> From dave@skywaves.net Sat Dec 5 12:55:24 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:55:24 -0500 Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? In-Reply-To: <4b19d06a.4801be0a.21fd.ffffca4e@mx.google.com> References: <321D2162520C4697A4942EA08DEF8E4E@dave> <4b19d06a.4801be0a.21fd.ffffca4e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5134CDF1E5654D4786B8D213D25E328C@dave> When I worked at WOKO in Albany (WDDY these days, with several call changes in between), we would get QSL cards from the Scandanavian countries all winter long. We had a 5kW nighttime DA that sent most of the power a little east of north - maybe 20 or 30 degrees. It wasn't a true polar path, but it was right up the great circle route to that part of the world. Maybe the hobby has always been so alive there because of the long winter nights... -d -------------------------------------------------- From: "SteveOrdinetz" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:15 PM To: Subject: Re: Still Do AM Radio DXing? > > Dave Doherty wrote: >>One of my clients up on Alaska put a new AM on the air. About a month >>ago, he got a QSL request from someplace in Scandanavia. So it's not a >>totally lost hobby. > > About a year ago we got a reception report from Norway (I think) of WSNO > Barre, Vt. He emailed us an mp3 of the legal ID. It was down "in the > mud" but definitely there. I think we sent him a bumper sticker as a > "QSL". > > From dave@skywaves.net Sat Dec 5 12:40:39 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:40:39 -0500 Subject: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! In-Reply-To: <763426.97690.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <763426.97690.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: During a brief stint at WYBG in Massena, NY, I signed off with "And now for a word from our chums in Toronto." CHUM was also on 1050 and relatively close by. When sign-off was on the half hour, I would reach back, hit the transmitter-off switch, and make a seamless transition into their newscast. It was kind of fun. -d -------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Q. George" Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:43 AM To: "Martin Waters" ; "Jr.Paul B. Walker" ; "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: Subject: Re: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! > > During the WBZE days, I believe, during their sign-off, they said to > listeners "Stand by WBZ/Boston, coming up next!" (*carrier dumped*). > > It that true? > > > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) > Whitman, Massachusetts > "Scanning the bands since 1967" > > radiojunkie3@yahoo.com > *********************************************************** > > > --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > >> From: Dan.Strassberg >> Subject: Re: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! >> To: "Martin Waters" , "Jr.Paul B. Walker" >> >> Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >> Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 8:32 AM >> WWGB's day pattern supposedly >> protects WBZ during critical hours as >> well as during the remainder of daylight. The pattern does >> indeed have >> a broad, deep minimum to the northeast. When WWGB first >> went on the >> air (60's?), its calls were WBZE. Supposedly, the calls >> were selected >> so that people in the listening area, which includes >> Washington DC, >> would think they were listening to WBZ day and night >> because WBZ has a >> killer nighttime signal there. >> >> As for KCTA, back in the '40s, when it was KWBU and I think >> was 50 kW >> ND all day (the FCC hadn't yet invented critical hours), >> Westinghouse >> tried to get the FCC to force KWBU to sign off at Boston >> sunset, which >> would have been 3:15PM in south Texas in December. I know >> that during >> critical hours, KCTA's daytime skywave really gets out; >> I've seen DX >> reports from places about 1000 miles from Corpus Christie. >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Waters" >> >> To: "Jr.Paul B. Walker" >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:17 AM >> Subject: Re: Attention all AM DX-ing fans! >> >> >> With the now-explained unusual propagation conditions, the >> possible >> stations are several -- especially a few 50 kW daytime-only >> stations. >> Like, WWGB, Indian Head, Md., 50 kW, DA. That's a regular >> visitor at >> my home on winter mornings -- as late as 8 or 9 a.m. That >> station >> should have a critical hours license. >> >> A couple additional stations on 1030 kHz are required to >> reduce power >> during critical hours -- including daytimer WBGS, Point >> Pleasant, >> W.V., 50 kW day, directional; 2.9 kW critical hours, >> non-DA. >> >> Maryland and West Virginia are the closest to Boston of the >> stations >> on 1030. >> >> The earliest time I could find that any station would be >> switching to >> critical hours power was 3:30 p.m., EST, awhile later than >> when I >> thought I heard the audible signal go away. Maybe what I >> heard was >> just a fluctuation. >> >> The other with critical hours operation is WNVR, Vernon >> Hills, Ill. >> (just outside Chicago). The license is 10 kW day, 3.2 kW >> critical >> hours, 0.12 kW night, DA-3. It has an application pending >> for 27 kW >> day, 8 kW critical hours, 0.21 kW night, DA-3. >> >> And in the micro-trivia department: A very old daytime-only >> station on >> 1030, KCTA, Corpus Christi, Texas, 50 kW, is licensed to >> operate from >> sunrise at Boston to its local sunset. Somewhere in the >> mist of radio >> history there's a story that goes with that, I'm sure. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > From irw@well.com Sat Dec 5 18:02:37 2009 From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:02:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? In-Reply-To: <4B1937E7.2050107@aol.com> References: <86AE3F7B94A44352A5C9945EC7CB9169@CHEM214> <4B1937E7.2050107@aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Mario Gonzalez Jr. wrote: > At night, I would listen to WOWO, after WLIB went off the air. I would > hear the music and the hockey games (I can't remember the name of the > team now). The Fort Wayne Komets. http://www.fortwaynekomets.com/ Currently, they are back to back Turner Cup Champions (IHL; http://www.ihl-hockey.com/) - Blaine From elipolo@earthlink.net Sat Dec 5 18:52:47 2009 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:52:47 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: HD Comments Message-ID: <17087834.1260057167031.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > I wonder if Eli has a problem receiving the HD3 > of WGBH on the Sangean? > > Mine (the HDT-1X) picks up that one and 98.5's just > fine. It does however have a problem with 100.7's > HD3 at times, and almost never picks up the HD3 of > 104.1. Some have thought that it is an issue on the > stations' end rather than the receiver. My Sony S3HD > behaves exactly the same as the Sangean, while the > Kenwood in the car has no problem. Could it be that > the Kenwood has newer HD decoding hardware/software > that is better equipped to handle HD3s? Here's how the HDT-1 performs on the four HD3 signals in Boston: 89.7 HD3 - Gets it most, but not all, of the time. Cuts out at times. 98.5 HD3 - The best of them. There most of the time, Dropouts very occasionally. 100.7 HD3 - Not listenable. Brief blips of audio, then immediately reverts to 100.7 HD1. Occasionally I may get them for as long as approximately one song here and there. 104.1 HD3 - You wouldn't know it exists. I would not have ever heard it if not for my Insignia walkman-type HD portable, which gets it intermittently. The iLuv, like your Kenwood, seems to have no problem with any of them. EP From kvahey@comcast.net Wed Dec 9 18:37:24 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:37:24 -0600 Subject: Unemployed announcer cries about PPM Message-ID: <4fc429770912091537s757838c4id009bd52ec002905@mail.gmail.com> Steve Dahl blames the PPM system for the 'end' of local radio. He has some valid points. http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-1209-steve-dahldec09,0,1040719.column From sid@wrko.com Wed Dec 9 20:25:03 2009 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:25:03 -0500 Subject: Unemployed announcer cries about PPM In-Reply-To: <4fc429770912091537s757838c4id009bd52ec002905@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770912091537s757838c4id009bd52ec002905@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0D5E60C875634E4AA1031FC691BCCC552B41F451@ENTCORMB2.etmcorad.com> "Steve Dahl blames the PPM system for the 'end' of local radio. He has some valid points. http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-1209-steve-dahldec09,0,1040719.column" People were pronouncing local radio "doomed" long before PPM had anything to do with it, and Dahl provided, probably without meaning to, one of the reasons why. Diaries measure recall (and provide several types of opportunitues to game the system) whereas PPMs measure exposure (with virtually no way to game the system other than to change one's usual daily habits, and several types of, for lack of a better term, error correction so that the system really can't be gamed to any significant degree). Maybe his audience wasn't all that large to begin with, and he got lucky with the market's diary placements. He claims the PPM results favor music, sports and news stations...exactly the types of stations played in places diary keepers tended to overlook, like doctor's offices, reception areas, bars, etc. Bottom line, of course, is that neither system measures what programmers, sales types and advertisers would really like to know: Who is listening and actually paying attention to the station? The person who figures out how to measure that will be rich beyond his/her wildest dreams. Cybernetic brain implants? Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Dec 10 13:43:31 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:43:31 -0500 Subject: Herald mistaken about 97.7 being a rap station Message-ID: <8CC47DFCE6C70DE-7D8-947@web-mmc-d19.sysops.aol.com> An article in today's Herald states that rapper Edo G would be heard on Dec 20 at 10 pm on "WBOT-FM 97.7". If any rap fan tunes in, they will probably hear "Bay State Rock" on what is actually WKAF-FM 97.7, a licensed station owned by Entercom // WAAF. And they have been that way for several years. Actually I would think that Edo G would be appearing instead on WPOT (calls not officially licensed by the FCC) 87.7, an unlicensed broadcaster which is sending out the same format as the former "Hot 97.7". Don't know who gave the Herald that info, but I made a comment correcting them. Fans of the rapper should be advised they can tune 10 MHz to the left of 97.7 to hear him. Unless for some reason Bay State Rock is doing rap, too, these days... From kvahey@comcast.net Sun Dec 13 11:15:15 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:15:15 -0600 Subject: Chicago Sun Times looks at radio Message-ID: <4fc429770912130815u3df345a9ja06fda712208fb01@mail.gmail.com> Chicago Sun Times has a front page story today on how drastic things have changed in Chicagoland radio in just 18 months. http://www.suntimes.com/business/lazare/1935861,CST-FIN-radio13.article From paul.norton@gmail.com Mon Dec 7 02:38:22 2009 From: paul.norton@gmail.com (Paul Norton) Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:38:22 -0800 Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B1CB0EE.1010402@gmail.com> On 12/4/2009 8:00 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Believe it or not, Medium-Wave (and Long-Wave) DXing still exist as > hobbies. There are still organizations of DXers, and Internet e-mail > lists for reporting the latest catches and doping out the call signs > of un-IDed stations. These organizations continue to send vans stuffed > with avid DXers, receivers, and the makings of antennas to "hot spots" > in places such as Newfoundland and coastal Oregon every year to catch, > record, and ID the signals from other continents. DXers are almost > 100% male and their average age seems to increase every year. But a > few younger rare birds seem to join the ranks from time to time. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Larsen" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 AM > Subject: Still Do AM Radio DXing? > > > I remember as a kid in the 50's doing it almost every night with my > "Hi-Tech" GE transistor radio tucked under my pillow. I had a ton of > QSL cards from all over the Nation. Is this a lost hobby? I imagine > with all the changes in FCC allocation and power rules it's tough. I > hadn't thought of this question in years. > > Thanks. > Ted > I'm 27 and I've been DX'ing AM radio since I was 13 or so. Still do it today! Unfortunately, I moved to San Diego, CA (from Mass.) 4 years ago and since then I'm just flooded on the AM with Mexican stations. From lglavin@mail.com Tue Dec 15 14:42:26 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:42:26 -0500 Subject: December Tower Collapses in Watkins Glen Area Message-ID: <8CC4BD5DD17DC09-1ED8-3026@web-mmc-d15.sysops.aol.com> The tower of the month for December in Scott Fybush's Tower calendar is that of WRCE-AM 1490, near (but apparently not IN Watkins Glen, NY. According to news reports, that tower collapsed early today (Tuesday) unfortunately resulting in the death of a worker. At this precise moment, the Ithaca Journal is not yet specifying that WRCE is the station involved, but the story references county road 16, which can be seen on radio-locator.com. From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Dec 15 14:55:22 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:55:22 -0500 Subject: December Tower Collapses in Watkins Glen Area In-Reply-To: <8CC4BD5DD17DC09-1ED8-3026@web-mmc-d15.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC4BD5DD17DC09-1ED8-3026@web-mmc-d15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC4BD7ABFCE1C9-139C-339E@web-mmc-d08.sysops.aol.com> The collapse was yesterday afternoon according to http://www.odessafile.com/ >>The accident occurred about 2:45 p.m. Monday, and drew various authorities to the scene. The tower stood about 150 yards in from County Route 16 From billohno@gmail.com Wed Dec 16 00:40:52 2009 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:40:52 -0500 Subject: Farm Fresh 102.9 Message-ID: <4B2872E4.2010700@gmail.com> Now, where was I? Okay, it's been a long time but now I am finally back behind the mic. Doing some fun stuff - man on the street - at "Farm Fresh 102.9" - WCLX (102.9 Westport/Burlington). Hitting the streets as I go about my regular job and grabbing audio as I go. Filed a couple of reports so far. Station's not feeding a live stream to you yet but I'm sure that won't be for long. Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Dec 16 03:13:10 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:13:10 -0500 Subject: Ch 50 weatherman Al Kaprelian laid off Message-ID: <8CC4C3EBDD90FEF-F44-41F6@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> He's among 7 employees of "MyTV" who were laid off http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20091216weathermans_tv_reign_to_end/srvc=home&position=5 He'll still be on WCAP though "Good eeeevening!" From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Wed Dec 16 09:00:09 2009 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 9:00:09 -0500 Subject: Farm Fresh 102.9 In-Reply-To: <4B2872E4.2010700@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091216140010.DHUNA.24362.root@hrndva-web02-z01> ---- Bill O'Neill wrote: > Now, where was I? Okay, it's been a long time but now I am finally back > behind the mic. Doing some fun stuff - man on the street - at "Farm > Fresh 102.9" - WCLX (102.9 Westport/Burlington). Hitting the streets as > I go about my regular job and grabbing audio as I go. Filed a couple of > reports so far. Station's not feeding a live stream to you yet but I'm > sure that won't be for long. > Bill still go it! On his Facebook page, he was able to post an mp3 link (which for the life of me my computer won't capture) of a nice wrap he did. bright & tight at :60! --Chuck Igo From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed Dec 16 09:33:55 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:33:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Ch 50 weatherman Al Kaprelian laid off In-Reply-To: <8CC4C3EBDD90FEF-F44-41F6@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC4C3EBDD90FEF-F44-41F6@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <33244.15966.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Of course this begs the question of when WZMY will be sold or go dark. I'm shocked that Al hung on this long after Shooting Star took over. I wouldn't be surprised if the the MyTV affiliation goes over to WFXT on a digital subchannel (just like WNAC is doing in the Providence market) shoud there be an issue with channel 50. Before channel 50 signed as the Boston-area affiliate the plan was to run the MyTV programming middays on WFXT. From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 16 10:19:59 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:19:59 -0500 Subject: Ch 50 weatherman Al Kaprelian laid off References: <8CC4C3EBDD90FEF-F44-41F6@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> <33244.15966.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: According to the TVFMSTNS software I use, WZMY is transmitting with an ERP or 7.3 kW from a HAAT of 669' at a site 31 miles NNW of the Pru. Conceivably, this info is out of date. The OTA signal where I live (Arlington Heights, just north of Route 2, maybe 1/2 mile west of the top of Belmont Hill near Lexington) is mostly unwatcheable (pixellation, long gaps in audio). If the technical info is current, given the low power, the modest height, the long distance from where I live, and the fact that I am using an unamplified indoor antenna (which I think is typical for OTA reception in this above average location), it is quite amazing that the signal is ever watchable. If those are still the WZMY facilities, it is quite surprising that any network would call WZMY its Boston affiliate. OTOH, some radio network once called WGAW (1340 Gardner) its Boston affiliate. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Carney" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Ch 50 weatherman Al Kaprelian laid off > Of course this begs the question of when WZMY will be sold or go > dark. I'm shocked that Al hung on this long after Shooting Star took > over. I wouldn't be surprised if the the MyTV affiliation goes over > to WFXT on a digital subchannel (just like WNAC is doing in the > Providence market) shoud there be an issue with channel 50. Before > channel 50 signed as the Boston-area affiliate the plan was to run > the MyTV programming middays on WFXT. > > > > From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed Dec 16 10:26:55 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:26:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Ch 50 weatherman Al Kaprelian laid off In-Reply-To: References: <8CC4C3EBDD90FEF-F44-41F6@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> <33244.15966.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <999388.73720.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> YouTube clip of 25 years of Al's forecasts. http://www.youtube.com/user/wzmy#p/a/u/0/zd5YLd--TfE From scott@fybush.com Wed Dec 16 10:46:20 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:46:20 -0500 Subject: Ch 50 weatherman Al Kaprelian laid off In-Reply-To: References: <8CC4C3EBDD90FEF-F44-41F6@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> <33244.15966.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B2900CC.1000606@fybush.com> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > According to the TVFMSTNS software I use, WZMY is transmitting with an > ERP or 7.3 kW from a HAAT of 669' at a site 31 miles NNW of the Pru. > Conceivably, this info is out of date. The OTA signal where I live > (Arlington Heights, just north of Route 2, maybe 1/2 mile west of the > top of Belmont Hill near Lexington) is mostly unwatcheable > (pixellation, long gaps in audio). If the technical info is current, > given the low power, the modest height, the long distance from where I > live, and the fact that I am using an unamplified indoor antenna > (which I think is typical for OTA reception in this above average > location), it is quite amazing that the signal is ever watchable. If > those are still the WZMY facilities, it is quite surprising that any > network would call WZMY its Boston affiliate. OTOH, some radio network > once called WGAW (1340 Gardner) its Boston affiliate. The difference is that WGAW is unavailable to roughly 99% of the Boston-market population. WZMY, thanks to cable and satellite must-carry, is at least available to (if not viewed by) somewhere north of 85% of the population in the Boston DMA...maybe closer to 90% if you include the OTA viewers north of Boston who actually can see the off-air signal. s From bob.bosra@demattia.net Wed Dec 16 10:57:10 2009 From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:57:10 -0500 Subject: Ch 50 weatherman Al Kaprelian laid off In-Reply-To: <4B2900CC.1000606@fybush.com> References: <8CC4C3EBDD90FEF-F44-41F6@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> <33244.15966.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4B2900CC.1000606@fybush.com> Message-ID: If I remember correctly, WNDS changed to WZMY and was calling itself "My TV" as an independent before the "My TV" network came out. I thought there was going to be some litigation over the network's use of "My TV" (trademark infringement?). Not many weeks later, the affiliation was announced. Was there some sort of arrangement made that allowed ch. 50 to become a network affiliate in exchange for Shooting Start dropping is suit, or was the plan all along for them to become a MyTV outlet? -Bob On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > Dan.Strassberg wrote: >> >> According to the TVFMSTNS software I use, WZMY is transmitting with an >> ERP or 7.3 kW from a HAAT of 669' at a site 31 miles NNW of the Pru. >> Conceivably, this info is out of date. The OTA signal where I live >> (Arlington Heights, just north of Route 2, maybe 1/2 mile west of the >> top of Belmont Hill near Lexington) is mostly unwatcheable >> (pixellation, long gaps in audio). If the technical info is current, >> given the low power, the modest height, the long distance from where I >> live, and the fact that I am using an unamplified indoor antenna >> (which I think is typical for OTA reception in this above average >> location), it is quite amazing that the signal is ever watchable. If >> those are still the WZMY facilities, it is quite surprising that any >> network would call WZMY its Boston affiliate. OTOH, some radio network >> once called WGAW (1340 Gardner) its Boston affiliate. > > The difference is that WGAW is unavailable to roughly 99% of the > Boston-market population. WZMY, thanks to cable and satellite must-carry, is > at least available to (if not viewed by) somewhere north of 85% of the > population in the Boston DMA...maybe closer to 90% if you include the OTA > viewers north of Boston who actually can see the off-air signal. > > s > From billohno@gmail.com Wed Dec 16 16:01:11 2009 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:01:11 -0500 Subject: Farm Fresh 102.9 In-Reply-To: <20091216140010.DHUNA.24362.root@hrndva-web02-z01> References: <20091216140010.DHUNA.24362.root@hrndva-web02-z01> Message-ID: <4B294A97.4000001@gmail.com> chuckigo@maine.rr.com wrote: > ---- Bill O'Neill wrote: > >> Now, where was I? Okay, it's been a long time but now I am finally back >> behind the mic. Doing some fun stuff - man on the street - at "Farm >> Fresh 102.9" - WCLX (102.9 Westport/Burlington). Hitting the streets as >> I go about my regular job and grabbing audio as I go. Filed a couple of >> reports so far. Station's not feeding a live stream to you yet but I'm >> sure that won't be for long. >> >> > > Bill still go it! On his Facebook page, he was able to post an mp3 link (which for the life of me my computer won't capture) of a nice wrap he did. bright & tight at :60! > > --Chuck Igo > > Thanks Chuccck. I didn't know your hearing (and sense of talent in others) was fading at such a vibrant age. Pot down those cans, cap'n! Bill O'Neill From necrat.alternate@gmail.com Wed Dec 16 15:22:35 2009 From: necrat.alternate@gmail.com (Mike Fitzpatrick) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:22:35 -0500 Subject: Ch 50 weatherman Al Kaprelian laid off In-Reply-To: References: <8CC4C3EBDD90FEF-F44-41F6@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> <33244.15966.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002001ca7e8d$818954f0$849bfed0$@alternate@gmail.com> Dan (and others). May I suggest a website for you to start using for FCC license lookups. www.fccinfo.com It is very accurate, contains a lot of information in a easy to read layout and includes a mapping program and even a Google earth interface. . WZMY is in fact using 7.3kW from the Merrill Hill tower in Hudson, NH. They never filed for a "maximization" when the FCC opened the window to do so back about 7 years ago. The only thing I can think of is, as someone else pointed, they all ready are fed on all the cable companies. This feed is Fiber., and they didn't have the financial resources to operate/purchase a higher power UHF transmitter or have a study done to put in the directional antenna they would need to, to protect Hartford, CT at a higher power. (Which might have also involved major tower work as well, which isn't cheap either.) So it just screams of being more "cost effective" to stay at the low power. >According to the TVFMSTNS software I use, WZMY is transmitting with an >ERP or 7.3 kW from a HAAT of 669' at a site 31 miles NNW of the Pru. >Conceivably, this info is out of date. --Mike Fitzpatrick WPRI/WNAC Providence, RI From lglavin@mail.com Wed Dec 16 18:58:17 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:58:17 -0500 Subject: WNSH-AM To Flip Again? Message-ID: <8CC4CC2C560E17C-B00-16A9@web-mmc-m08.sysops.aol.com> Leave it to a busy beaver at radio-info.com to notice that just like last summer (remember summer?), WNSH-AM 1570 in Beverly has announced solely on its website http://www.wnsh.com that it is about to make a radical reverse-change in its format: from LMAed (is that a word?) Spanish programming back to mostly right-wing talk (but with the addition of one host bearing a 'Y' chromosome. So, after sunrise Thursday, it may be time to check out the 1570 frequency north of Boston. From dave@skywaves.net Wed Dec 16 22:26:53 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:26:53 -0500 Subject: Directional ex-Class IA AMs In-Reply-To: <848A6B21306447B4813787DA9BC4A6EA@SatU205S5044> References: <000201ca6b16$f8d14fc0$ea73ef40$@net>, <980D78ADA1D9451AB1218A36B7E60551@SatU205S5044><4B0A1E12.6069.5F92FA@joe.attorneyross.com> <848A6B21306447B4813787DA9BC4A6EA@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: I was digging for a photo for my annual card, and I found deep in my archives the following photo of the 1950's WEAF (WNBC, WFAN) site at Port Washington. I don't recall where it came from, but it corresponds exactly with my memory of the site from my childhood. http://www.skywaves.com/bc/images/weaf_portwash01.jpg -d -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan.Strassberg" Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:57 AM To: "A. Joseph Ross" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Subject: Directional ex-Class IA AMs > > Back in the day. there were four Class IA clear-channel stations that > operated DA-1 (same facilities day and night): WBZ, WWL, WEAF (now > WFAN), and WTAM. Of those, two remain directional. In all cases, > really, the reason for directionalizing was the same, not to protect > any station but to send the signal over land (where people live) and > not waste it over water (where only fish and a smaller number of > crustaceans live). > > In WBZ's case, the water is the Atlantic Ocean to the east; in WWL's > case, it is the Gulf of Mexico to the south; in WEAF's case, it was > Long Island Sound to the east; and in WTAM's case it was Lake Erie to > the north. Of these four stations, WBZ is the most directional (sends > the least signal--the equivalent of ~1 kW ND--over Mass Bay). WWL > sends something approaching the equivalent of 5 kW ND to the south; I > don't know why. I have never seen WTAM's or WEAF's patterns. but my > understanding is that neither of these stations (both then owned by > RCA/NBC) was strongly directional. > > WEAF's transmitter was in Port Washington on Long Island's north shore > in Nassau County, a pretty good distance from mid-town Manhattan. The > signal was boosted to the west to level the playing field with New > York's other Class IA clears, WJZ 770, which transmitted from New > Jersey (I think it was Bound Brook until the 1943 move to the current > Lodi site) and WABC 880. (For those who don't remember that far back, > the WABC calls were on 880 until, I think, 1943. 880, then as now, was > on an island east of the Bronx in Long Island Sound--but it was a > different island back then.) WEAF's signal to the east over Long > Island and Connecticut was pretty potent--I've heard the equivalent of > 25 kW ND, but I can't verify that. > > As for WTAM, there was a significant potential audience in Ontario, 50 > miles or so across Lake Erie. Also, the transmitter itself may have > been south of downtown Cleveland. The antenna was quite unusual for a > US station. The designer, the legendary Carl Smith, used a technique > that has been used successfully in Mexico and Europe but was never > popular with the FCC. It was a one-tower, two element, DA. The tall > uniform cross-section, guy-supported tower was, of course, one of the > elements. The second element was a wire dropped from one of the > supporting guys, resulting in unequal element heights and rather close > spacing between the elements. Neither of those characteristics was a > killer and, indeed, those characteristics are shared by many current > two-element DAs constructed of two conventional towers. I remember > seeing a polar plot of the WTAM pattern. It was not very directional > and the radiation efficiency was HUGE--much higher than that of WTAM's > current conventional half-wave tower. I don't know the height of the > old tower; presumably, it was more than helf wave--maybe as much as > 5/8 wave. > > There were other Class IA AMs that might have benefitted from using > DAs but never chose to do so. The most notable was KFI, which, back in > the '30s, could have built a two-tower array (or even a one-tower > setup like WTAM's) on Catalina Island. I suspect, however, that KFI's > owner, auto dealer Earl C Anthony, figured that the publicity from > having the station's 750' tower right next to his auto dealership was > a good trade-off for the coverage KFI could have gained in southern > California's then-sparsely populated desert areas. Also, there might > have been problems with getting the audio to a transmitter "26 miles > across the sea." I don't know in what year Pacific T&T installed its > first undersea cable between Santa Monica and Avalon. > > As for what stations the directional operations protect, although that > was not an issue when any of these ex-IA stations was built, changes > in the FCC rules might make it an issue now if WBZ or WWL wanted to > abandon its DA-1 operation. WBZ's radiation toward a station in Puerto > Rico might become an issue if WBZ wanted to operate ND. And I believe > that there is now at least one full-time station on 1030 in Florida. > WWL's limited radiation to the south now protects several signals in > (I believe) Venezuela and surrounding countries. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: "Dan.Strassberg" > Cc: "Boston Radio Group" > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:30 AM > Subject: Re: UHF in Southern New England (was WHNB/WVIT Channel 30 > (was Re:WTAG-TV?)) >> >> Why does WBZ have a directional signal at all? What do they have to >> protect? >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 >> Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> > > From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Dec 17 03:15:55 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:15:55 -0500 Subject: WNSH-AM To Flip Again? In-Reply-To: <8CC4CC2C560E17C-B00-16A9@web-mmc-m08.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC4CC2C560E17C-B00-16A9@web-mmc-m08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC4D084A937DE3-123C-1E79@web-mmc-d20.sysops.aol.com> As of 3:06 am here, 1 mile from their stick, it's still Spanish. Maybe it switches later today... Lineup similar in some ways to what they had before, though Jerry Doyle airs 3-6 pm live (Monica Crowley's show gone)--WRKO has that at 10 pm (tape delay) and both stations run Ingraham 9-noon. I get the feeling WRKO has to run Doyle to get Savage and/or Ingraham...or at least it was cheap/ free for them to run. I think WNSH did briefly have Doyle live in the past. "Red Hot Talk Radio" is the new image rather than "talk radio for women" From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 17 06:52:55 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:52:55 -0500 Subject: Directional ex-Class IA AMs References: <000201ca6b16$f8d14fc0$ea73ef40$@net>, <980D78ADA1D9451AB1218A36B7E60551@SatU205S5044><4B0A1E12.6069.5F92FA@joe.attorneyross.com> <848A6B21306447B4813787DA9BC4A6EA@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <339DB47395CE4A4188D57C197D34C4D1@SatU205S5044> Nice photo! I had never been there, but I had seen pictures, though not ones that included the Tx building. I had also seen pix of another WEAF Tx building somewhere else on Long Island, I believe; it must have been the predecessor of this one--it had a similar look. The towers are pretty much what I recall from the pix I saw--fat self-supporters. The very tops of the towers don't show in your picture, but IIRC, the towers were not pointed at the top; the tops were flat with a cross-section of maybe 2'. I think you will agree that your picture strongly suggests that the line of the towers ran more or less east to west. The shoreline in Port Washington runs pretty much north to south. Port Washington is on a fat peninsula or promontory, one of several that jut into Long Island Sound from Long Island's north shore, which runs pretty much west to east. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Doherty" To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; "A. Joseph Ross" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" ; Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Directional ex-Class IA AMs >I was digging for a photo for my annual card, and I found deep in my >archives the following photo of the 1950's WEAF (WNBC, WFAN) site at >Port Washington. I don't recall where it came from, but it >corresponds exactly with my memory of the site from my childhood. > > http://www.skywaves.com/bc/images/weaf_portwash01.jpg > > -d > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Dan.Strassberg" > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:57 AM > To: "A. Joseph Ross" > Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" > > Subject: Directional ex-Class IA AMs > >> >> Back in the day. there were four Class IA clear-channel stations >> that >> operated DA-1 (same facilities day and night): WBZ, WWL, WEAF (now >> WFAN), and WTAM. Of those, two remain directional. In all cases, >> really, the reason for directionalizing was the same, not to >> protect >> any station but to send the signal over land (where people live) >> and >> not waste it over water (where only fish and a smaller number of >> crustaceans live). >> >> In WBZ's case, the water is the Atlantic Ocean to the east; in >> WWL's >> case, it is the Gulf of Mexico to the south; in WEAF's case, it was >> Long Island Sound to the east; and in WTAM's case it was Lake Erie >> to >> the north. Of these four stations, WBZ is the most directional >> (sends >> the least signal--the equivalent of ~1 kW ND--over Mass Bay). WWL >> sends something approaching the equivalent of 5 kW ND to the south; >> I >> don't know why. I have never seen WTAM's or WEAF's patterns. but my >> understanding is that neither of these stations (both then owned by >> RCA/NBC) was strongly directional. >> >> WEAF's transmitter was in Port Washington on Long Island's north >> shore >> in Nassau County, a pretty good distance from mid-town Manhattan. >> The >> signal was boosted to the west to level the playing field with New >> York's other Class IA clears, WJZ 770, which transmitted from New >> Jersey (I think it was Bound Brook until the 1943 move to the >> current >> Lodi site) and WABC 880. (For those who don't remember that far >> back, >> the WABC calls were on 880 until, I think, 1943. 880, then as now, >> was >> on an island east of the Bronx in Long Island Sound--but it was a >> different island back then.) WEAF's signal to the east over Long >> Island and Connecticut was pretty potent--I've heard the equivalent >> of >> 25 kW ND, but I can't verify that. >> >> As for WTAM, there was a significant potential audience in Ontario, >> 50 >> miles or so across Lake Erie. Also, the transmitter itself may have >> been south of downtown Cleveland. The antenna was quite unusual for >> a >> US station. The designer, the legendary Carl Smith, used a >> technique >> that has been used successfully in Mexico and Europe but was never >> popular with the FCC. It was a one-tower, two element, DA. The tall >> uniform cross-section, guy-supported tower was, of course, one of >> the >> elements. The second element was a wire dropped from one of the >> supporting guys, resulting in unequal element heights and rather >> close >> spacing between the elements. Neither of those characteristics was >> a >> killer and, indeed, those characteristics are shared by many >> current >> two-element DAs constructed of two conventional towers. I remember >> seeing a polar plot of the WTAM pattern. It was not very >> directional >> and the radiation efficiency was HUGE--much higher than that of >> WTAM's >> current conventional half-wave tower. I don't know the height of >> the >> old tower; presumably, it was more than helf wave--maybe as much as >> 5/8 wave. >> >> There were other Class IA AMs that might have benefitted from using >> DAs but never chose to do so. The most notable was KFI, which, back >> in >> the '30s, could have built a two-tower array (or even a one-tower >> setup like WTAM's) on Catalina Island. I suspect, however, that >> KFI's >> owner, auto dealer Earl C Anthony, figured that the publicity from >> having the station's 750' tower right next to his auto dealership >> was >> a good trade-off for the coverage KFI could have gained in southern >> California's then-sparsely populated desert areas. Also, there >> might >> have been problems with getting the audio to a transmitter "26 >> miles >> across the sea." I don't know in what year Pacific T&T installed >> its >> first undersea cable between Santa Monica and Avalon. >> >> As for what stations the directional operations protect, although >> that >> was not an issue when any of these ex-IA stations was built, >> changes >> in the FCC rules might make it an issue now if WBZ or WWL wanted to >> abandon its DA-1 operation. WBZ's radiation toward a station in >> Puerto >> Rico might become an issue if WBZ wanted to operate ND. And I >> believe >> that there is now at least one full-time station on 1030 in >> Florida. >> WWL's limited radiation to the south now protects several signals >> in >> (I believe) Venezuela and surrounding countries. >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "A. Joseph Ross" >> To: "Dan.Strassberg" >> Cc: "Boston Radio Group" >> >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:30 AM >> Subject: Re: UHF in Southern New England (was WHNB/WVIT Channel 30 >> (was Re:WTAG-TV?)) >>> >>> Why does WBZ have a directional signal at all? What do they have >>> to >>> protect? >>> >>> -- >>> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >>> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 >>> Boston, MA 02109-2004 >>> http://www.attorneyross.com >>> >>> >> >> From attychase@comcast.net Thu Dec 17 16:15:37 2009 From: attychase@comcast.net (Robert S Chase) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:15:37 -0500 Subject: Directional ex-Class IA AMs References: Message-ID: I doubt very much that the "fountain" in the foreground http://www.skywaves.com/bc/images/weaf_portwash01.jpg was either decorative (too much iron pipe) or a waste water treatment plant so my guess is that it was a water cooling sink for the transmitter. (AC not being a big thing in the 40's but still a possibility.) How did it work? Bob Chase > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:26:53 -0500 > From: "Dave Doherty" > To: "Dan.Strassberg" , > > Subject: Re: Directional ex-Class IA AMs >reply-type=response > > I was digging for a photo for my annual card, and I found deep in my > archives the following photo of the 1950's WEAF (WNBC, WFAN) site at Port > Washington. I don't recall where it came from, but it corresponds exactly > with my memory of the site from my childhood. > > http://www.skywaves.com/bc/images/weaf_portwash01.jpg From dave@skywaves.net Thu Dec 17 16:37:22 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:37:22 -0500 Subject: Directional ex-Class IA AMs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50B5D70341CF4530B79C0AB6B94C2319@dave> Hi Bob- The plates on the final tubes were surrounded by insulated jackets that were kept full of water. The hot water was pumped out to the pond, where it was sprayed to cool it further. Keeping the water clean in an open system like that must have been a real chore, and the combination of running water and high voltage is nothing short of scary. -d -------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert S Chase" Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 4:15 PM To: Subject: Re: Directional ex-Class IA AMs > > I doubt very much that the "fountain" in the foreground > http://www.skywaves.com/bc/images/weaf_portwash01.jpg was either > decorative (too much iron pipe) or a waste water treatment plant so my > guess is that it was a water cooling sink for the transmitter. (AC not > being a big thing in the 40's but still a possibility.) How did it work? > From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Dec 18 11:51:44 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:51:44 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH Message-ID: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com> Today's Globe has articles on the "public radio war" between WBUR and WGBH, and WCRB's new identity. Note the comments on the latter; many complaints about the WCRB signal. Had the deal not been made to switch freqs with WKLB, classical fans might be enjoying "All Classical 102.5" today. As I noted, for many now it's "All Static 99.5" http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2009/12/18/a_new_wcrb_and_a_shrinking_classical_dial/?page=1 If Entercom would sell 97.7 or if WPLM's owners sold 99.1 to WGBH, that would help. IF. (I'm wondering if WEEI may move to FM and displace either WAAF or "Mike", perhaps to 97.7...)' http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2009/12/18/public_radio_war_is_on/ It's mentioned that "In the mid-1980s, former WBUR station manager Jane Christo jettisonedclassical music and converted the sleepy Boston University station toan all-news-and-talk format. Within just a few years, ?BUR owned theupscale NPR demographic..." I do remember something like that. (btw does anyone remember if WBUR used to have a show called Firesign World on Sunday nights which featured comedy such as Firesign Theater?) Also: as far as I know neither WGBH nor WBUR (nor WCRB) runs a syndicated show called Weekend Radio. Originated at WCLV in Cleveland with host Robert Conrad (no, not the actor), the show mixes comedy bits by the likes of The Goons (Peter Sellers, etc.), Flanders and Swann, Bob Newhart, and Jean Shepherd with light classical pieces. Enjoyable; but as far as I know it has not aired in Boston. Wonder if WCRB might consider it...? From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Dec 18 12:00:32 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:00:32 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <002201ca8003$9ceb3d40$c4141bac@whdh.com> > Also: as far as I know neither WGBH nor WBUR (nor WCRB) runs > a syndicated show called > Weekend Radio. Originated at WCLV in Cleveland with host > Robert Conrad (no, not the actor), > the show mixes comedy bits by the likes of The Goons (Peter > Sellers, etc.), Flanders and > Swann, Bob Newhart, and Jean Shepherd with light classical > pieces. Enjoyable; but as far as I know it has not aired in > Boston. Wonder if WCRB might consider it...? I believe WCRB did air that program at one time, though it may have had a different name back then. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From john@minutemancomm.com Fri Dec 18 12:09:36 2009 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:09:36 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <782CE0BC-CDEB-48D3-9908-473A93F57F4B@minutemancomm.com> You do know that WCRB is available on WGBH HD2 right? And classical fans can afford an HD radio. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2009, at 11:51 AM, raccoonradio@mail.com wrote: > Today's Globe has articles on the "public radio war" between WBUR > and WGBH, and WCRB's new identity. Note the comments on the latter; > many complaints about the WCRB signal. Had the deal not been made to > switch freqs with WKLB, classical fans might be enjoying "All > Classical 102.5" today. > As I noted, for many now it's "All Static 99.5" > > http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2009/12/18/a_new_wcrb_and_a_shrinking_classical_dial/?page=1 > > If Entercom would sell 97.7 or if WPLM's owners sold 99.1 to WGBH, > that would help. IF. > (I'm wondering if WEEI may move to FM and displace either WAAF or > "Mike", perhaps to 97.7...)' > > http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2009/12/18/ > public_radio_war_is_on/ > > It's mentioned that "In the mid-1980s, former WBUR station manager > Jane Christo jettisonedclassical music and converted the sleepy > Boston University station toan all-news-and-talk format. Within just > a few years, ?BUR owned theupscale NPR demographic..." > I do remember something like that. (btw does anyone remember if WBUR > used to have a show called Firesign World on Sunday nights which > featured comedy such as Firesign Theater?) > > Also: as far as I know neither WGBH nor WBUR (nor WCRB) runs a > syndicated show called > Weekend Radio. Originated at WCLV in Cleveland with host Robert > Conrad (no, not the actor), > the show mixes comedy bits by the likes of The Goons (Peter Sellers, > etc.), Flanders and > Swann, Bob Newhart, and Jean Shepherd with light classical pieces. > Enjoyable; but as far as I know it has not aired in Boston. Wonder > if WCRB might consider it...? From gallen2@nescaum.org Fri Dec 18 12:16:08 2009 From: gallen2@nescaum.org (George Allen) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:16:08 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Robert Conrad - wasn't [isn't?] he the voice of the Cleveland Orchestra radio broadcasts in the 70's? As for his show, it sounds a bit like what the late Richard L. Kaye did on WCRB after the BSO on Saturday nights for many years. Don't recall the name of the show ["Saturday Night?"]. It was of course taped during the week - RLK certainly wasn't at the studios until 1am Sunday mornings! George ________________________________________ From: raccoonradio@mail.com Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:51:44 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH Also: as far as I know neither WGBH nor WBUR (nor WCRB) runs a syndicated show called Weekend Radio. Originated at WCLV in Cleveland with host Robert Conrad (no, not the actor), the show mixes comedy bits by the likes of The Goons (Peter Sellers, etc.), Flanders and Swann, Bob Newhart, and Jean Shepherd with light classical pieces. Enjoyable; but as far as I know it has not aired in Boston. Wonder if WCRB might consider it...? From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Dec 18 12:51:51 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:51:51 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <532781A4984A43E4874499111669F186@SatU205S5044> No doubt you saw the quote from Ms. Christo at the very end of the article. Sounds to me as if she is already campaigning to be WGBH-FM's next GM. How to you suppose the brilliant, if utterly self-centered and self-absorbed martinet would make out in the WGBH culture? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- It's mentioned that "In the mid-1980s, former WBUR station manager Jane Christo jettisonedclassical music and converted the sleepy Boston University station toan all-news-and-talk format. Within just a few years, ?BUR owned theupscale NPR demographic..." I do remember something like that. (btw does anyone remember if WBUR used to have a show called Firesign World on Sunday nights which featured comedy such as Firesign Theater?) From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Dec 18 12:55:24 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:55:24 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH References: Message-ID: <80BC33E29FB44A9C8E30C64720166720@SatU205S5044> WCRB Saturday Night, I believe. In addition to the material described, the program included comedy bits. Besides Kaye, it also featured Conrad as co-host, from Cleveland. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Allen" To: Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 12:16 PM Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH > Robert Conrad - wasn't [isn't?] he the voice of the Cleveland > Orchestra radio broadcasts in the 70's? As for his show, it sounds > a bit like what the late Richard L. Kaye did on WCRB after the BSO > on Saturday nights for many years. Don't recall the name of the > show ["Saturday Night?"]. It was of course taped during the week - > RLK certainly wasn't at the studios until 1am Sunday mornings! > George > ________________________________________ From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Dec 18 14:03:55 2009 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (raccoonradio@mail.com) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:03:55 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: <80BC33E29FB44A9C8E30C64720166720@SatU205S5044> References: <80BC33E29FB44A9C8E30C64720166720@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <8CC4E2BFA8EE1D1-1350-DAF@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com> I think I do remember scanning the dial on a Saturday night and WCRB was playing Goon Show material. Could have been "Weekend Radio", yes. Occasionally I get it on tape from a trader in Southern California; there are comedy bits related to classical/orchestral music on occasion (one spoofed "Young People's Guide to the Orchestra"--Robert Klein). A cue sheet from a current show; note contents include Stan Freberg, Ogden Nash, Morecambe and Wise, Smothers Brothers--and the Redlands University Choir...: http://cuesheets.wclv.com/Weekend_Radio/2009/wrc0951.txt From gallen2@nescaum.org Fri Dec 18 14:39:07 2009 From: gallen2@nescaum.org (George Allen) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:39:07 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: <8CC4E2E3B79DEF8-101C-E74@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC4E2E3B79DEF8-101C-E74@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Ah yes -- LVB bday was a very special event at 750 South St.! Also - I was just reminiscing about the "Musical Marathon" days in the early 70's, when they would load up the BSTT tapes into a van/truck, park it at 750 [South St, not 750 Sawmill Brook, another site I spent many of my formative years at], and have listeners bid $ to hear their favorite historical BSO performance. Now *that* was radio! Where are those BSTT tapes today, and is anything being done to preserve them and make them available in some way? Kevin Mostyn has a site [abandoned?] that started to document the archive contents, at: http://www.koussevitzky.com/ Kevin is a rabid Koussy fan... George __________________________________ At 02:20 PM 12/18/2009, lglavin@mail.com wrote: At least one Saturday night a year, RLK was in the studio on Saturday night: the Saturday closest to Beethoven's birthday (given as either December 16th or 17th, depending on how fast mom and dad could get the lad to a baptismal font; babies often failed to make it through the first week or so of life in those days in Bonn, Germany). People were invited to the South street studio for birthday cake and to schmooze. I was a mere yute then, but now I wish I had been able to participate. From lglavin@mail.com Fri Dec 18 14:20:02 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:20:02 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC4E2E3B79DEF8-101C-E74@web-mmc-m05.sysops.aol.com> >-----Original Message----- >From: George Allen >To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >Sent: Fri, Dec 18, 2009 12:16 pm >Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH >Robert Conrad - wasn't [isn't?] he the voice of the Cleveland Orchestra radio broadcasts in the 70's? As for his show, it sounds a bit like what the late Richard L. Kaye did on WCRB after >the BSO on Saturday nights for many years. Don't recall the name of the show ["Saturday Night?"]. It was of course taped during the week - RLK certainly wasn't at the studios until 1am >Sunday mornings! > George At least one Saturday night a year, RLK was in the studio on Saturday night: the Saturday closest to Beethoven's birthday (given as either December 16th or 17th, depending on how fast mom and dad could get the lad to a baptismal font; babies often failed to make it through the first week or so of life in those days in Bonn, Germany). People were invited to the South street studio for birthday cake and to schmooze. I was a mere yute then, but now I wish I had been able to participate. From ewerme@comcast.net Fri Dec 18 23:46:17 2009 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:46:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH Message-ID: <20091219044617.4854561C19@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> > Also: as far as I know neither WGBH nor WBUR (nor WCRB) runs a syndicated > show called Weekend Radio. Originated at WCLV in Cleveland with host Robert > Conrad (no, not the actor), the show mixes comedy bits by the likes of The > Goons (Peter Sellers, etc.), Flanders and Swann, Bob Newhart, and Jean > Shepherd with light classical pieces. Enjoyable; but as far as I know it has > not aired in Boston. Wonder if WCRB might consider it...? WCRB did have "WCRB Saturday Night" hosted by Richard L. Kaye for many years. He played Stan Freiburg's "Green Christmas" after seeing the first Christmas advertising of the fall (or summer), some Tom Lehrer, Victor Borge, the King's Singers, and a number of other pieces that can be found on Dr. Demento CDs, and was the sole source for a while of wonderful duets by folk singer Bill Crofut and tenor Ben Luxon that blended American and British versions of folk songs. Eventually those came out on LPs and then CDs, including one by Telarc. For several years one segment was from WCLV's similar show, and WCLV aired a segment of Saturday Night. I grew up in Painesville OH, so it was nice hearing WCLV. From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Dec 19 01:01:39 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:01:39 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: <782CE0BC-CDEB-48D3-9908-473A93F57F4B@minutemancomm.com> References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>, <782CE0BC-CDEB-48D3-9908-473A93F57F4B@minutemancomm.com> Message-ID: <4B2C6C43.29607.2AA3B4E@joe.attorneyross.com> On 18 Dec 2009 at 12:09, John Mullaney wrote: > You do know that WCRB is available on WGBH HD2 right? And classical > fans can afford an HD radio. Speak for yourself! Why do you assume that only wealthy people listen to classical music. 'Tain't so! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Dec 19 01:01:38 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:01:38 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B2C6C42.3857.2AA3A15@joe.attorneyross.com> On 18 Dec 2009 at 11:51, raccoonradio@mail.com wrote: > Today's Globe has articles on the "public radio war" between WBUR and > WGBH, and WCRB's new identity. Note the comments on the latter; many > complaints about the WCRB signal. Had the deal not been made to switch > freqs with WKLB, classical fans might be enjoying "All Classical > 102.5" today. As I noted, for many now it's "All Static 99.5" I guess it depends on where you are. No queston the WCRB signal doesn't reach as far as WGBH, but neither did the old signal on 102.5. Back when the changeover took place, someone posted comparative maps of the coverage areas of the two signals, and it seemed to me that there wasn't all that much difference. 99.5 reaches a little farther to the north, 102.5 a little farther to the south. The west was almost the same, as I ascertained on a drive to Amherst, switching back and forth between WCRB and WKLB. The article also doesn't mention that, west of about Route 128, WFCR in Amherst, which has a lot of classical programming, is audible. > It's mentioned that "In the mid-1980s, former WBUR station manager > Jane Christo jettisonedclassical music and converted the sleepy Boston > University station toan all-news-and-talk format. Within just a few > years, ?BUR owned theupscale NPR demographic..." I do remember > something like that. I remember when WBUR had really good classical music programming. I used to like to listen to it in my office, especially when I had trouble with the WCRB signal. Trouble was, it stopped at 4:00 PM to carry All Things Considered, even though that was already on WGBH. I've been listening to WCRB the past couple of weeks, and I do think that it sounds better. They've dropped the "Top 40" programming philosophy It is too bad they are dropping coverage of the Friday afternoon BSO concert. I believe those concerts were also recorded for some archive. I hope they will continue to be. Probably the most eventful Friday afternoon concert took place on Friday, 22 November 1963. I didn't hear it at the time, but I heard a rebroadcast of it a few months later. The radio announcer announced the next scheduled piece, obviously not knowing about the big news of the day. The conductor, Eric Leinsdorf, came to the microphone and announced that "The President of the United States has been the victim of an assassination." This was followed by an audible gasp from the audience. Leinsdorf then said that the orchestra would play the funeral march from Beethoven's third symphony. This was followed by another gasp from the audience before the music began. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dave@skywaves.net Sat Dec 19 02:04:10 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 02:04:10 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: <4B2C6C43.29607.2AA3B4E@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>, <782CE0BC-CDEB-48D3-9908-473A93F57F4B@minutemancomm.com> <4B2C6C43.29607.2AA3B4E@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <2310BD61E1A743D187BE4E3CBF365044@dave> HD Radios are available now for around $35. That doesn't seem out of reach... -d -------------------------------------------------- From: "A. Joseph Ross" Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:01 AM To: "John Mullaney" Cc: Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH > > On 18 Dec 2009 at 12:09, John Mullaney wrote: > >> You do know that WCRB is available on WGBH HD2 right? And classical >> fans can afford an HD radio. > > Speak for yourself! Why do you assume that only wealthy people > listen to classical music. 'Tain't so! > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Dec 19 05:33:40 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:33:40 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>, <782CE0BC-CDEB-48D3-9908-473A93F57F4B@minutemancomm.com><4B2C6C43.29607.2AA3B4E@joe.attorneyross.com> <2310BD61E1A743D187BE4E3CBF365044@dave> Message-ID: <772624ACD6314E958548D64C65E1C46C@SatU205S5044> But the reports on the sensitivity of that $35 HD radio (earbuds; no speaker--Insignia brand; mfd by LG) leave you wondering whether it could pick up WGBH HD-2 (or is HD-3 the subchannel that's // WCRB?) in Milton--in the shadow of WGBH's tower. Clearly, if somone's problem is receiving the broadcasts, a deaf radio is not likely to be the solution. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Doherty" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "John Mullaney" Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:04 AM Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH > HD Radios are available now for around $35. That doesn't seem out of > reach... > > -d > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:01 AM > To: "John Mullaney" > Cc: > Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH > >> >> On 18 Dec 2009 at 12:09, John Mullaney wrote: >> >>> You do know that WCRB is available on WGBH HD2 right? And >>> classical >>> fans can afford an HD radio. >> >> Speak for yourself! Why do you assume that only wealthy people >> listen to classical music. 'Tain't so! >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 >> Boston, MA 02109-2004 >> http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> >> From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Dec 19 07:12:27 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:12:27 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: <772624ACD6314E958548D64C65E1C46C@SatU205S5044> References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com> <782CE0BC-CDEB-48D3-9908-473A93F57F4B@minutemancomm.com> <4B2C6C43.29607.2AA3B4E@joe.attorneyross.com> <2310BD61E1A743D187BE4E3CBF365044@dave> <772624ACD6314E958548D64C65E1C46C@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <003201ca80a4$8886adc0$c4141bac@whdh.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:34 AM > To: Dave Doherty; A. Joseph Ross; John Mullaney > Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH > > But the reports on the sensitivity of that $35 HD radio (earbuds; no > speaker--Insignia brand; mfd by LG) leave you wondering whether it > could pick up WGBH HD-2 (or is HD-3 the subchannel that's // WCRB?) in > Milton--in the shadow of WGBH's tower. Clearly, if somone's problem is > receiving the broadcasts, a deaf radio is not likely to be the > solution. Mine picks up WGBH in HD just fine in North Salem, NH. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From john@minutemancomm.com Sat Dec 19 08:21:44 2009 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 08:21:44 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: <4B2C6C43.29607.2AA3B4E@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>, <782CE0BC-CDEB-48D3-9908-473A93F57F4B@minutemancomm.com> <4B2C6C43.29607.2AA3B4E@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: I never said they were wealthy. I said they could afford an HD radios. This station could have easily gone dark from the amount of business it had. This is the best thing that could have happened for Classical Music fans. Stop complaining. -----Original Message----- From: A. Joseph Ross [mailto:joe@attorneyross.com] Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:02 AM To: John Mullaney Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH On 18 Dec 2009 at 12:09, John Mullaney wrote: > You do know that WCRB is available on WGBH HD2 right? And classical > fans can afford an HD radio. Speak for yourself! Why do you assume that only wealthy people listen to classical music. 'Tain't so! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.113/2573 - Release Date: 12/18/09 02:35:00 From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Dec 19 09:06:00 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:06:00 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com> <"782CE0BC-C DEB-48D3-9908-473A93F57F4B"@minutemancomm.com> Message-ID: <0KUW00AWNKG86X30@asmtp018.mac.com> At 08:21 AM 12/19/2009, John Mullaney wrote: >Stop complaining. Why? If nobody complained there would be no activity on this list, and people would be complaining about that. :-) Seriously, there is no reason why WGBH buying WCRB would require that they drop all classical from WGBH, except perhaps a sense that they don't want to be competing with themselves. And there's nothing in this to justify the dropping of the folk and blues shows by WGBH. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Dec 19 14:04:02 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:04:02 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com><"782CE0BC-C DEB-48D3-9908-473A93F57F4B"@minutemancomm.com> <0KUW00AWNKG86X30@asmtp018.mac.com> Message-ID: Clearly, there was no _requirement_ that WGBH make any program changes on any of its frequencies or subchannels as a result of acquiring WCRB, BUT economics dictated the changes that have been made. As you said, WGBH probably doesn't want to compete with itself, although didn't it used to compete with itself? That is, wasn't there a 24/7 classical service on an 89.7 HD subchannel that was different from the midday classical programming broadcast on 89.7 analog (and main HD) before 12/1/09? With the advent of a 24/7 WCRB simulcast on 89.7 HD-2 (or is it HD-3?), my understanding is that the subchannel-only 24/7 classical programming on 89.7 has been discontinued. Putting news/talk on 89.7 was obviously done to tap into the larger (and apparently more generous) community of listeners who support WBUR. WBUR ran a feature over the weekend that discussed the situation in a number of large markets where two or more public radio news/talk stations compete. Boston is not unique in that respect. I can't remember most of the markets that were mentioned, but Seattle was one--and not the only one. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 9:06 AM Subject: RE: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH > At 08:21 AM 12/19/2009, John Mullaney wrote: > >>Stop complaining. > > Why? If nobody complained there would be no activity on this list, > and people would be complaining about that. :-) > > Seriously, there is no reason why WGBH buying WCRB would require > that they drop all classical from WGBH, except perhaps a sense that > they don't want to be competing with themselves. And there's > nothing in this to justify the dropping of the folk and blues shows > by WGBH. > > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Dec 19 13:00:25 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:00:25 -0600 Subject: virtual ads Message-ID: <4fc429770912191000l7518f16cnf670eb91d36039c8@mail.gmail.com> CSN in Chicago is now running 'virtual ads' during hockey. What next? http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs039.snc3/12637_1175616554881_1362114385_1571868_7441722_n.jpg From rac@gabrielmass.com Sat Dec 19 14:10:52 2009 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:10:52 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com><"782CE0BC-C DEB-48D3-9908-473A93F57F4B"@minutemancomm.com> <0KUW00AWNKG86X30@asmtp018.mac.com> Message-ID: <4B2D253C.9090006@server4.gabrielmass.com> On 12/19/2009 02:04 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > With the advent of a 24/7 WCRB simulcast on 89.7 HD-2 > (or is it HD-3?), my understanding is that the subchannel-only 24/7 > classical programming on 89.7 has been discontinued. Or would it be more accurate to call this a merger? The internet stream for 99.5 still announces itself as "All-Classical WGBH". -_RC From m_carney@yahoo.com Sat Dec 19 15:26:27 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:26:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: virtual ads In-Reply-To: <4fc429770912191000l7518f16cnf670eb91d36039c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770912191000l7518f16cnf670eb91d36039c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <105968.515.qm@web53307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Please don't give ideas to CSN New England! Seriously, this technology has been in existence for almost a decade. Cablevision had it available to the RSNs (when they owned New England) but found it worked best in hockey. ________________________________ From: Kevin Vahey To: (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 1:00:25 PM Subject: virtual ads CSN in Chicago is now running 'virtual ads' during hockey. What next? http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs039.snc3/12637_1175616554881_1362114385_1571868_7441722_n.jpg From marklaurence@mac.com Sat Dec 19 14:45:45 2009 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:45:45 -0500 Subject: virtual ads In-Reply-To: <4fc429770912191000l7518f16cnf670eb91d36039c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770912191000l7518f16cnf670eb91d36039c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <93910317834483070272552646252215564002-Webmail@me.com> On Saturday, December 19, 2009, at 01:00PM, "Kevin Vahey" wrote: >CSN in Chicago is now running 'virtual ads' during hockey. What next? > >http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs039.snc3/12637_1175616554881_1362114385_1571868_7441722_n.jpg I can't wait to see how this transforms (or continues to kill) network TV when Comcast buys NBC. From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Dec 19 15:58:31 2009 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:58:31 -0600 Subject: virtual ads In-Reply-To: <93910317834483070272552646252215564002-Webmail@me.com> References: <4fc429770912191000l7518f16cnf670eb91d36039c8@mail.gmail.com> <93910317834483070272552646252215564002-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770912191258l52c4fb9dhf97ddc8221224e49@mail.gmail.com> It is a real pain for the director and lead cameraman as there is 'pressure' to show the entire ad. This is worse than the static virtual ads in baseball from the CF camera. NESN tried it once about five years ago with a big Gulf Oil ad in the outfield and Selig ordered them to stop. I have heard fans complain at football games they can't see the first down yellow line :D From dave@skywaves.net Sat Dec 19 20:00:58 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:00:58 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: <772624ACD6314E958548D64C65E1C46C@SatU205S5044> References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>, <782CE0BC-CDEB-48D3-9908-473A93F57F4B@minutemancomm.com><4B2C6C43.29607.2AA3B4E@joe.attorneyross.com> <2310BD61E1A743D187BE4E3CBF365044@dave> <772624ACD6314E958548D64C65E1C46C@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: Hi Dan- That's not the radio I was thinking of. I ordered one to pick up in the store and got the confirming email. When I went to pick it up, they had no idea what it was. "Yeah, I know the computer says we have two, but... What is it again?" So I never got a chance to test that one. But other reports are that they are pretty good. I'm in Worcester, in a place that is not remotely line of sight to Boston. I have a Directed aftermarket car radio hooked up to an attic antenna and my computer that does just fine on the Boston stations. I just received three "Mighty Red" radios from Eric Rhoads of Radio Ink. I charged one up and plugged in the buds, and I was able to get the Boston Class B's in HD in my living room on the ground floor. Not too shabby. Maybe your receiver is being overwhelmed by blanketing interference from WGBH? -d -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan.Strassberg" Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:33 AM To: "Dave Doherty" ; "A. Joseph Ross" ; "John Mullaney" Cc: Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH > > But the reports on the sensitivity of that $35 HD radio (earbuds; no > speaker--Insignia brand; mfd by LG) leave you wondering whether it > could pick up WGBH HD-2 (or is HD-3 the subchannel that's // WCRB?) in > Milton--in the shadow of WGBH's tower. Clearly, if somone's problem is > receiving the broadcasts, a deaf radio is not likely to be the > solution. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Doherty" > To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "John Mullaney" > > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:04 AM > Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH > > >> HD Radios are available now for around $35. That doesn't seem out of >> reach... >> >> -d >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "A. Joseph Ross" >> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:01 AM >> To: "John Mullaney" >> Cc: >> Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH >> >>> >>> On 18 Dec 2009 at 12:09, John Mullaney wrote: >>> >>>> You do know that WCRB is available on WGBH HD2 right? And >>>> classical >>>> fans can afford an HD radio. >>> >>> Speak for yourself! Why do you assume that only wealthy people >>> listen to classical music. 'Tain't so! >>> >>> -- >>> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >>> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 >>> Boston, MA 02109-2004 >>> http://www.attorneyross.com >>> >>> >>> > > From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Dec 20 01:20:09 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:20:09 -0500 Subject: virtual ads In-Reply-To: <4fc429770912191000l7518f16cnf670eb91d36039c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770912191000l7518f16cnf670eb91d36039c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B2DC219.25733.BD9274@joe.attorneyross.com> On 19 Dec 2009 at 12:00, Kevin Vahey wrote: > CSN in Chicago is now running 'virtual ads' during hockey. What next? What's a virtual ad? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Dec 20 01:20:09 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:20:09 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>, <4B2C6C43.29607.2AA3B4E@joe.attorneyross.com>, Message-ID: <4B2DC219.13235.BD935F@joe.attorneyross.com> On 19 Dec 2009 at 8:21, John Mullaney wrote: > I never said they were wealthy. I said they could afford an HD radios. > This station could have easily gone dark from the amount of business > it had. This is the best thing that could have happened for Classical > Music fans. Stop complaining. I am not one of the ones complaining. I can receive WCRB, and I've been enjoying it a lot more in recent weeks. I particularly like their new Sunday Baroque program, which they seem to be picking up from a bird somewhere. But I am challenging your assumption that all classical music lovers can afford an HD radio -- or at least an HD radio that can actually receive the signal. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sun Dec 20 01:25:05 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:25:05 -0600 Subject: virtual ads In-Reply-To: <4B2DC219.25733.BD9274@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <4fc429770912191000l7518f16cnf670eb91d36039c8@mail.gmail.com> <4B2DC219.25733.BD9274@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80912192225s43ae287fs84505a72bb0d2b3@mail.gmail.com> If you looked at the link in the post, you'd know. Paul On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:20 AM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 19 Dec 2009 at 12:00, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > > CSN in Chicago is now running 'virtual ads' during hockey. What next? > > What's a virtual ad? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 > http://www.attorneyross.com > > > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Dec 20 01:48:27 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:48:27 -0500 Subject: virtual ads In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80912192225s43ae287fs84505a72bb0d2b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770912191000l7518f16cnf670eb91d36039c8@mail.gmail.com>, <4B2DC219.25733.BD9274@joe.attorneyross.com>, <8bce0fe80912192225s43ae287fs84505a72bb0d2b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B2DC8BB.26175.D77C6D@joe.attorneyross.com> On 20 Dec 2009 at 0:25, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > If you looked at the link in the post, you'd know. I asked because I looked at the link, and I'm still not sure I understand it. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From rac@gabrielmass.com Sun Dec 20 01:52:19 2009 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:52:19 -0500 Subject: virtual ads In-Reply-To: <4B2DC8BB.26175.D77C6D@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <4fc429770912191000l7518f16cnf670eb91d36039c8@mail.gmail.com>, <4B2DC219.25733.BD9274@joe.attorneyross.com>, <8bce0fe80912192225s43ae287fs84505a72bb0d2b3@mail.gmail.com> <4B2DC8BB.26175.D77C6D@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <4B2DC9A3.3090502@server4.gabrielmass.com> On 12/20/2009 01:48 AM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 20 Dec 2009 at 0:25, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > >> If you looked at the link in the post, you'd know. > > I asked because I looked at the link, and I'm still not sure I > understand it. > I think it refers to the lottery ad, which is presumably a computer-generated image (CGI) integrated into the scene. "Virtual" isn't that good a word for it: it's an ad all right. Why not call it CGI, or Image Fraud, or something that describes it more clearly? --RC From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Dec 20 07:57:20 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:57:20 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>, <782CE0BC-CDEB-48D3-9908-473A93F57F4B@minutemancomm.com><4B2C6C43.29607.2AA3B4E@joe.attorneyross.com> <2310BD61E1A743D187BE4E3CBF365044@dave> <772624ACD6314E958548D64C65E1C46C@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: No, I was going on a report from a usually highly credible listener who often posts at radio-info.com and who also posts rather frequently to this list. He is not infallible, of course, and it's always possible that his Insignia HD radio was a bad unit. However, I don't recall his saying that he took or sent his unit back in an effort to obtain a sample that isn't deaf. I'm not sure of the distance between my location (Arlington Heights, near Lexington, about 1/2 mile north of Route 2) and Great Blue Hill, but it must be close to 15 miles, so the likelihood of front-end overload from WGBH is vanishingly small. However, back when 100.7 was transmitting from 75 Concord Ave in Lexington and 96.9 was transmitting from Zion Hill in Woburn, front-end overload was a fact of life on nearly all FM receivers in this neighborhood. Both stations were culprits. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Doherty" To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; "A. Joseph Ross" ; "John Mullaney" Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 8:00 PM Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH > Hi Dan- > > That's not the radio I was thinking of. I ordered one to pick up in > the store and got the confirming email. When I went to pick it up, > they had no idea what it was. "Yeah, I know the computer says we > have two, but... What is it again?" So I never got a chance to test > that one. But other reports are that they are pretty good. > > I'm in Worcester, in a place that is not remotely line of sight to > Boston. > > I have a Directed aftermarket car radio hooked up to an attic > antenna and my computer that does just fine on the Boston stations. > > I just received three "Mighty Red" radios from Eric Rhoads of Radio > Ink. I charged one up and plugged in the buds, and I was able to get > the Boston Class B's in HD in my living room on the ground floor. > Not too shabby. > > Maybe your receiver is being overwhelmed by blanketing interference > from WGBH? > > -d > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Dan.Strassberg" > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:33 AM > To: "Dave Doherty" ; "A. Joseph Ross" > ; "John Mullaney" > Cc: > Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH > >> >> But the reports on the sensitivity of that $35 HD radio (earbuds; >> no >> speaker--Insignia brand; mfd by LG) leave you wondering whether it >> could pick up WGBH HD-2 (or is HD-3 the subchannel that's // WCRB?) >> in >> Milton--in the shadow of WGBH's tower. Clearly, if somone's problem >> is >> receiving the broadcasts, a deaf radio is not likely to be the >> solution. >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dave Doherty" >> To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "John Mullaney" >> >> Cc: >> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:04 AM >> Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH >> >> >>> HD Radios are available now for around $35. That doesn't seem out >>> of >>> reach... >>> >>> -d >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "A. Joseph Ross" >>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:01 AM >>> To: "John Mullaney" >>> Cc: >>> Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH >>> >>>> >>>> On 18 Dec 2009 at 12:09, John Mullaney wrote: >>>> >>>>> You do know that WCRB is available on WGBH HD2 right? And >>>>> classical >>>>> fans can afford an HD radio. >>>> >>>> Speak for yourself! Why do you assume that only wealthy people >>>> listen to classical music. 'Tain't so! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >>>> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 >>>> Boston, MA 02109-2004 >>>> http://www.attorneyross.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Dec 20 08:12:22 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:12:22 -0500 Subject: virtual ads References: <4fc429770912191000l7518f16cnf670eb91d36039c8@mail.gmail.com>, <4B2DC219.25733.BD9274@joe.attorneyross.com>, <8bce0fe80912192225s43ae287fs84505a72bb0d2b3@mail.gmail.com><4B2DC8BB.26175.D77C6D@joe.attorneyross.com> <4B2DC9A3.3090502@server4.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <76DFE7C082F5468C89AE40A9F0278849@SatU205S5044> I wonder whether the advertising/PR community is proving itself to be as inept at naming of technologies as engineers have been. I'm an engineer and I spent 16 years as an editor at a trade magazine that circulates to electronic engineers. I did not think anyone could be as bad at naming things as engineers are. My favorite stupid name in the EE world is synthetic instruments, which are not synthetic; they are real--just unconventional combinations of general-purpose devices and specialized software. A perfectly good name for them would have been synthesized instruments. Of course, all instruments are synthesized in some manner of speaking, but to my ear and sensibilities synthesized would have been tons better than synthetic, which over many decades has been accepted as meaning fraudulent or phony. As for virtual ads, I guess an appropriate name would be inserted ad images. Somehow, that doesn't sound as cool as virtual ads even though I had no clue what virtual ads were. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Chonak" To: "Boston Radio Interest Board" Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:52 AM Subject: Re: virtual ads > On 12/20/2009 01:48 AM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >> On 20 Dec 2009 at 0:25, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: >> >>> If you looked at the link in the post, you'd know. >> >> I asked because I looked at the link, and I'm still not sure I >> understand it. >> > > I think it refers to the lottery ad, which is presumably a > computer-generated image (CGI) integrated into the scene. > > "Virtual" isn't that good a word for it: it's an ad all right. Why > not call it CGI, or Image Fraud, or something that describes it more > clearly? > > --RC > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Dec 20 12:06:12 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:06:12 -0500 Subject: WCRB Message-ID: People in WGBH management have been quoted in the press to the effect that they are exploring all options for extending the WCRB signal to the south. It has already been suggested by others that WGBH acquire currently bankrupt--and already classical-formatted--WFCC to extend WCRB's coverage. Although its antenna height is less than the Class B maximum, WFCC is a full Class B, licensed to Chatham, at the elbow of the Cape. Another option would seem to be to lease the HD-2 subchannel of WPLM-FM. AFAIK, WPLM is not doing IBOC, but if WGBH were willing to pay for the installation... ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From chris2526@comcast.net Sun Dec 20 23:46:53 2009 From: chris2526@comcast.net (chris2526) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:46:53 -0500 Subject: WCRB audio Message-ID: Has anyone else noticed the deterioration of the once rich and vibrant WCRB audio since WGBH took over? It is now very thin and washed out sounding.......unlistenable, I'm not talking about less compression or other processing, Now just thin bass and no vibrant sparkle or depth. Was a pleasure to listen to, no longer. From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Dec 21 00:03:41 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:03:41 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH In-Reply-To: References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>, Message-ID: <4B2F01AD.25811.5CA5F4@joe.attorneyross.com> On 20 Dec 2009 at 7:57, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > However, back when 100.7 was transmitting from 75 Concord Ave in > Lexington and 96.9 was transmitting from Zion Hill in Woburn, > front-end overload was a fact of life on nearly all FM receivers in > this neighborhood. Both stations were culprits. I wonder why I never got front-end overload from 100.7 in Bedford. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Dec 21 00:03:43 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:03:43 -0500 Subject: WCRB audio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B2F01AF.25689.5CAE70@joe.attorneyross.com> On 20 Dec 2009 at 23:46, chris2526 wrote: > Has anyone else noticed the deterioration of the once rich and vibrant > WCRB audio since WGBH took over? It is now very thin and washed out > sounding.......unlistenable, I'm not talking about less compression or > other processing, Now just thin bass and no vibrant sparkle or depth. > Was a pleasure to listen to, no longer. Haven't noticed it. I suppose it depends on what sort of receiver you're using. I've been listening in the car or on a table radio, but the one in my office has very good sound, and WCRB has sounded pretty good. I haven't tried to listen on my livingroom stereo lately. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Dec 21 08:03:46 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:03:46 -0500 Subject: WCRB audio References: Message-ID: I've seen messages at radio-info.com complimenting WGBH's engineering staff for the great sound of the new WCRB and a thank you for the accolade from someone at WGBH thanking those who noticed and wrote about it. In the latter message, I learned that there is now no processing other than a minimal amount of peak clipping. I guess that the person on this list whom you want to hear from is Mr Glavin, who has long been WCRB's most severe critic (albeit for content, not for audio quality). However, the ogre of Methuen apparently fancies himself to be quite the audiophile, so his opinion on this, umm, score might be valid. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris2526" To: Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 11:46 PM Subject: WCRB audio > Has anyone else noticed the deterioration of the once rich and > vibrant WCRB audio since WGBH took over? It is now very thin and > washed out sounding.......unlistenable, I'm not talking about less > compression or other processing, Now just thin bass and no vibrant > sparkle or depth. Was a pleasure to listen to, no longer. From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Dec 21 07:48:41 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:48:41 -0500 Subject: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH References: <8CC4E19841478A6-1350-A7F@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com>, <4B2F01AD.25811.5CA5F4@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <12FA98F51CCA4D4E933B425286CA7F34@SatU205S5044> Bedford is a lot further from the Lexington site than Arlington Heights is. The distance to Bedford must be more than five miles. The distance to my house is approximately one mile. My guess is that the distance from my house to Zion Hill is around three miles, but that is a guess. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Globe articles on WCRB, WGBH > On 20 Dec 2009 at 7:57, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > >> However, back when 100.7 was transmitting from 75 Concord Ave in >> Lexington and 96.9 was transmitting from Zion Hill in Woburn, >> front-end overload was a fact of life on nearly all FM receivers in >> this neighborhood. Both stations were culprits. > > I wonder why I never got front-end overload from 100.7 in Bedford. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Dec 21 09:51:29 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:51:29 -0500 Subject: WCRB audio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19247.35697.726044.13188@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > audio quality). However, the ogre of Methuen apparently fancies > himself to be quite the audiophile, so his opinion on this, umm, > score might be valid. That's uncalled-for. -GAWollman From madprof@ix.netcom.com Mon Dec 21 15:36:49 2009 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (madprof) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:36:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: WFCR translator Message-ID: <22327735.1261427809426.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> So now I now basically moved to New Lebanon NY, and catching up the Albany-Pittsfield radio spectrum. scanning the dial, landed on a evening blues show on 106.1. nearest I knew of was WPDA, Jeffersonville NY. Decent signal strength, could move indoor antenna and virtually kill static. So WPDA Didn't make sense But then I clearly heard ID "WFCR". (5-college radio, Amherst). huh? too far for the decent strength. Checked FCC database, ahhhh, translator W291CH in Pittsfield - near Bosquets Ski area. So, changing my home area is providing DX opportunities, but stations like old WPTR & WTRY (rock / top-40 in my youth) are no longer the interesting part, more the FM's, most of which have come on the air since 1975. Merry Christmas,and/or Happy Hannaka to all, wishing the best of holidays to each person and station. Bob From kwillcox@wnsh.com Mon Dec 21 15:59:45 2009 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (kwillcox) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:59:45 -0500 Subject: WNSH-AM To Flip Again? Yes In-Reply-To: <8CC4CC2C560E17C-B00-16A9@web-mmc-m08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <0442855ADC464EFCA2720594B99168D9@cobravi> Thanks for reading WNSH.com In fact, the morning news and Dr. Joy are both moderate and hosted by women, while Jerry and Laura are more conservative, but I still have 9 of 12 hours with a woman as the main announcer. What other news station can say that? We need to fulfill a contract until Jan 1 and then we switch. Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Subject: WNSH-AM To Flip Again? WNSH-AM 1570 in Beverly has announced solely on its website http://www.wnsh.com that it is about to make a radical reverse-change in its format: from LMAed (is that a word?) From lglavin@mail.com Mon Dec 21 16:13:56 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:13:56 -0500 Subject: WCRB audio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC5099A3FFD689-B18-10F0@web-mmc-d20.sysops.aol.com> >-----Original Message----- >From: chris2526 >To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >Sent: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 11:46 pm >Subject: WCRB audio >Has anyone else noticed the deterioration of the once rich and vibrant WCRB audio since WGBH took over? It is now very thin and >washed out sounding.......unlistenable, I'm not talking >about less compression or other processing, Now just thin bass and no vibrant sparkle or depth. Was a pleasure to listen to, no longer. There are THREE listening situations when one tunes in to WCRB nowadays: (1) From the photo of Ray Brown displayed in the recent Globe article, you can observe that actual CDs are played through CD playback equipment during periods of live, local programming, roughly from 5:00 am until 6:00 pm. I've found the sound during these periods to be exemplary, as good as when I play a CD of my own through my equipment in my listening room. (2) Music recorded at either their own in-house concert hall, or concert venue elsewhere. This sound is quite variable; in fact a vocal piece with the late Lorraine Hunt Lieberson was so strident as the be unlistenable. (3) The music broadcast via satellite feed. I have listened to it on my primary audio equipment as mentioned in item (1) and it's ok, not as good as the live, local programming. Of course I always avoided listening to Nassau-owned WCRB except for the BSO broadcasts during this period with rare exceptions. The Boston Globe published an insert called the 'g' Section (it replaced an insert called "Calendar', but they wisely decided NOT to call it the 'c' Section) which almost every day printed some radio "highlights". WCRB used to provide them with one or two items, usually the Mozart piece played every weekday at 3:00 pm and usually a symphony or concerto in its entirety at 9:00 pm. The last time I used this information to listen to WCRB then, it was for Schubert's Symphony #2. It was not a piece in regular rotation, so I don't believe it was on the hard drive, but played by Mark Calder from a CD in-studio, and sounded fine. From tlmedia@triad.rr.com Tue Dec 22 06:53:14 2009 From: tlmedia@triad.rr.com (Ted Larsen) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:53:14 -0500 Subject: Citidel Finally Files For Bankruptcy Message-ID: <211AD2DD4D6444D6A0403C87EE8D9905@YOURbcbbe822ed> Though expected, it's now official.This link has copy of bankruptcy filing papers http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/20/citadel-broadcasting-files-for-bankruptcy/?hp . >From Washington Business Journal http://washington.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2009/12/21/daily3.html?ana=e_pft TL From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Dec 23 21:20:15 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:20:15 -0600 Subject: Waterbury, CT Area Radio Pictures Message-ID: <8bce0fe80912231820m122b2216j5c633b9f1019417f@mail.gmail.com> I traveled to Waterbury today and decided to take a few pictures during the trip! WWCO-AM 1240 Tower http://www.onairdj.com/wwco.jpg WATR-AM 1320 Towers: (I had to walk to the very end of their parking lot and climb a very tall snow bank for this picture!) http://www.onairdj.com/watrtowers.jpg WATR-AM 1320 Historical Lobby Display http://www.onairdj.com/watrlobby.jpg Contains items from WATR-TV, WATR-FM suchas transmitter tubes, mic ceubs and other stuff In the WATR 1320 Newsroom with News Anchor Courtney Miller Rao: http://www.onairdj.com/paul1.jpg In The WATR-AM 1320 Studio: http://www.onairdj.com/paul2.jpg George in the WATR 1320 Newsroom: http://www.onairdj.com/george.jpg George in the WATR 1320 On Air Studio http://www.onairdj.com/george1.jpg George, Paul and Courtney in the WATR 1320 Newsroom: http://www.onairdj.com/paul.jpg Here's wishing everyone a very Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah and The Best in 2010!! -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com www.facebook.com/onairdj walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Dec 23 21:09:30 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:09:30 -0600 Subject: 97.1 FM Hartford, CT Message-ID: <8bce0fe80912231809l51510303u80a59f2dbf8e7d11@mail.gmail.com> I didn't get a peep out of Radio Avivamiento on 1620 or 89.7 like I expected, but a loud, clear but slightly over modulated signal on 97.1 FM when passing through Hartford I guess they're up to their old tricks again. -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Dec 24 06:32:30 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:32:30 -0600 Subject: Waterbury, CT Area Radio Pictures In-Reply-To: References: <8bce0fe80912231820m122b2216j5c633b9f1019417f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80912240332j2c243fe8qf9c125b480358f37@mail.gmail.com> Here is the correct URL for the WATR Tower picture.. it was a simple typo: http://www.onairdj.com/watrtowers.JPG JPG is caparalized. I was with a friend who brought me to Waterbury,. Paul On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Nice photos, except I got a not-found error on the WATR towers. Also, > do you have wheels now? Or did somebody else drive? Or are the sites > accessible by public transportation? > > Merry Christmas; happy New Year. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." < > walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> > To: "bri" ; "B-R-I" > > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:20 PM > Subject: Waterbury, CT Area Radio Pictures > > > > I traveled to Waterbury today and decided to take a few pictures >> during the >> trip! >> >> WWCO-AM 1240 Tower >> http://www.onairdj.com/wwco.jpg >> >> WATR-AM 1320 Towers: (I had to walk to the very end of their parking >> lot and >> climb a very tall snow bank for this picture!) >> http://www.onairdj.com/watrtowers.jpg >> >> WATR-AM 1320 Historical Lobby Display >> http://www.onairdj.com/watrlobby.jpg >> Contains items from WATR-TV, WATR-FM suchas transmitter tubes, mic >> ceubs and >> other stuff >> >> In the WATR 1320 Newsroom with News Anchor Courtney Miller Rao: >> http://www.onairdj.com/paul1.jpg >> >> In The WATR-AM 1320 Studio: >> http://www.onairdj.com/paul2.jpg >> >> George in the WATR 1320 Newsroom: >> http://www.onairdj.com/george.jpg >> >> George in the WATR 1320 On Air Studio >> http://www.onairdj.com/george1.jpg >> >> George, Paul and Courtney in the WATR 1320 Newsroom: >> http://www.onairdj.com/paul.jpg >> >> Here's wishing everyone a very Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah and >> The Best >> in 2010!! >> >> -- >> Sincerely, >> Paul B. Walker, Jr. >> www.onairdj.com >> www.facebook.com/onairdj >> walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com >> > > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 24 06:22:55 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:22:55 -0500 Subject: Waterbury, CT Area Radio Pictures References: <8bce0fe80912231820m122b2216j5c633b9f1019417f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Nice photos, except I got a not-found error on the WATR towers. Also, do you have wheels now? Or did somebody else drive? Or are the sites accessible by public transportation? Merry Christmas; happy New Year. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: "bri" ; "B-R-I" Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:20 PM Subject: Waterbury, CT Area Radio Pictures >I traveled to Waterbury today and decided to take a few pictures >during the > trip! > > WWCO-AM 1240 Tower > http://www.onairdj.com/wwco.jpg > > WATR-AM 1320 Towers: (I had to walk to the very end of their parking > lot and > climb a very tall snow bank for this picture!) > http://www.onairdj.com/watrtowers.jpg > > WATR-AM 1320 Historical Lobby Display > http://www.onairdj.com/watrlobby.jpg > Contains items from WATR-TV, WATR-FM suchas transmitter tubes, mic > ceubs and > other stuff > > In the WATR 1320 Newsroom with News Anchor Courtney Miller Rao: > http://www.onairdj.com/paul1.jpg > > In The WATR-AM 1320 Studio: > http://www.onairdj.com/paul2.jpg > > George in the WATR 1320 Newsroom: > http://www.onairdj.com/george.jpg > > George in the WATR 1320 On Air Studio > http://www.onairdj.com/george1.jpg > > George, Paul and Courtney in the WATR 1320 Newsroom: > http://www.onairdj.com/paul.jpg > > Here's wishing everyone a very Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah and > The Best > in 2010!! > > -- > Sincerely, > Paul B. Walker, Jr. > www.onairdj.com > www.facebook.com/onairdj > walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Dec 24 07:20:07 2009 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:20:07 -0600 Subject: Waterbury, CT Area Radio Pictures In-Reply-To: <38CCC5EB73C74410B2920A7565A45AEE@SatU205S5044> References: <8bce0fe80912231820m122b2216j5c633b9f1019417f@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80912240332j2c243fe8qf9c125b480358f37@mail.gmail.com> <38CCC5EB73C74410B2920A7565A45AEE@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80912240420t7e725052t1e5a9444bb50df36@mail.gmail.com> The towers are always lit up. The left most tower in the pic used to hold WATR-TV and the right most tower used to hold WATR-FM.. at least that's what I think because the lights on the left and right towers arent actually at the top of the towers themselves, they are 20 or so feet above them on top of a red mast like object, They do have a pretty nice facility, nice automation system.. a brand new Harris DAX6 transmitter and etc. Paul On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I had always thought that WATR had only two towers, but I see that it > uses the two end towers for the 1 kW-N operation (figure-eight > pattern) and all three towers for the 5 kW-D (single lobe mostly to > the north). Basea d on the day pattern, I assume the site is south of > Waterbury. Am I right? Even more suprising is that the towers are a) > just barely taller than 200' and b) all three are illuminated. Is > there an airport nearby? If not, it's rather strange that WATR didn't > get permission to illuminate only the center tower. Since the distance > from the center tower to each end tower is less than the height of the > towers (albeit, just barely), the FAA would normally agree to allow > illumination of only the center tower. Or did you get someone to turn > on the lights on the end towers so that you could get that cool > picture? ;>). > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 24 07:12:28 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:12:28 -0500 Subject: Waterbury, CT Area Radio Pictures References: <8bce0fe80912231820m122b2216j5c633b9f1019417f@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80912240332j2c243fe8qf9c125b480358f37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <38CCC5EB73C74410B2920A7565A45AEE@SatU205S5044> I had always thought that WATR had only two towers, but I see that it uses the two end towers for the 1 kW-N operation (figure-eight pattern) and all three towers for the 5 kW-D (single lobe mostly to the north). Based on the day pattern, I assume the site is south of Waterbury. Am I right? Even more suprising is that the towers are a) just barely taller than 200' and b) all three are illuminated. Is there an airport nearby? If not, it's rather strange that WATR didn't get permission to illuminate only the center tower. Since the distance from the center tower to each end tower is less than the height of the towers (albeit, just barely), the FAA would normally agree to allow illumination of only the center tower. Or did you get someone to turn on the lights on the end towers so that you could get that cool picture? ;>). ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: "bri" ; "B-R-I" Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:32 AM Subject: Re: Waterbury, CT Area Radio Pictures > Here is the correct URL for the WATR Tower picture.. it was a simple > typo: > > http://www.onairdj.com/watrtowers.JPG > > JPG is caparalized. > > I was with a friend who brought me to Waterbury,. > > Paul > > > On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Dan.Strassberg > wrote: > >> Nice photos, except I got a not-found error on the WATR towers. >> Also, >> do you have wheels now? Or did somebody else drive? Or are the >> sites >> accessible by public transportation? >> >> Merry Christmas; happy New Year. >> >> ----- >> Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >> eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." < >> walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com> >> To: "bri" ; "B-R-I" >> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:20 PM >> Subject: Waterbury, CT Area Radio Pictures >> >> >> >> I traveled to Waterbury today and decided to take a few pictures >>> during the >>> trip! >>> >>> WWCO-AM 1240 Tower >>> http://www.onairdj.com/wwco.jpg >>> >>> WATR-AM 1320 Towers: (I had to walk to the very end of their >>> parking >>> lot and >>> climb a very tall snow bank for this picture!) >>> http://www.onairdj.com/watrtowers.jpg >>> >>> WATR-AM 1320 Historical Lobby Display >>> http://www.onairdj.com/watrlobby.jpg >>> Contains items from WATR-TV, WATR-FM suchas transmitter tubes, mic >>> ceubs and >>> other stuff >>> >>> In the WATR 1320 Newsroom with News Anchor Courtney Miller Rao: >>> http://www.onairdj.com/paul1.jpg >>> >>> In The WATR-AM 1320 Studio: >>> http://www.onairdj.com/paul2.jpg >>> >>> George in the WATR 1320 Newsroom: >>> http://www.onairdj.com/george.jpg >>> >>> George in the WATR 1320 On Air Studio >>> http://www.onairdj.com/george1.jpg >>> >>> George, Paul and Courtney in the WATR 1320 Newsroom: >>> http://www.onairdj.com/paul.jpg >>> >>> Here's wishing everyone a very Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah and >>> The Best >>> in 2010!! >>> >>> -- >>> Sincerely, >>> Paul B. Walker, Jr. >>> www.onairdj.com >>> www.facebook.com/onairdj >>> walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com >>> >> >> > > > -- > Sincerely, > Paul B. Walker, Jr. > www.onairdj.com > walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com > From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu Dec 24 13:45:33 2009 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:45:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: WUMB simulcasting on WAVM Maynard started Message-ID: <32763489.1261680333481.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I'm guessing this is the case because WUMB is now including WAVM, Maynard in their TOH ID. I'm not getting WAVM here in Somerville. I (faintly) get WMWM from Salem State College on 91.7. I don't know whether WAVM's proposed new 500 watt signal is actually on the air now, or if they've begun the simulcast on their old ten watt signal. I'll be driving around in the west suburbs during the next few days, I'll see if I can get it there, and how well. The stipulation of the WAVM/WUMB deal was that WUMB is simulcast on WAVM whenever Maynard High School students aren't doing radio. The current schedule for High School programming on WAVM is 2:00 PM - 9:00 PM, school days only. That gives WUMB morning drive and mid-day weekdays during the school year, all weeknight late evenings and overnights, and full-time on all weekends, holidays, school vacations and breaks, and the entire summer. From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Dec 24 22:25:59 2009 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:25:59 -0600 Subject: RIP George Michael Message-ID: <4fc429770912241925u1952adc6i799cd2fefd72c683@mail.gmail.com> While had no Boston connection other than his Sports Machine that ran on Sunday nights - George Michael had quite the radio career in Philly and NY http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/24/AR2009122401822.html?sid=ST2009122401586 http://musicradio77.com/ From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sat Dec 26 12:39:59 2009 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:39:59 -0500 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <005d01ca8652$75653e10$602fba30$@com> At 9AM on Christmas morning a number of us old farts assembled at the remote broadcast bunker (my studio) and did a 3 hour live and local show on WMWM 91.7 Salem and www.wmwmonline.com. We played a variety of local music, Christmas music and novelty songs. We put callers on the air and talked about their favorite Christmas experiences. In short, we had a ball. This was local radio at its finest; unscripted, unformatted and a part of the community. With a little luck this can become a WMWM annual tradition. While I?d like to lay claim to this little extravaganza, it was actually Doug Mascott?s idea. A special thank you to Doug Mascott, Bob Nelson, Mike Silverstein and to all of our callers. We have an aircheck available. I can forward the link privately to anyone on this list that's interested. ? ? Pro Cinema - Pro Audio - Pro & Consumer AV Equipment & Supplies Brian Vita President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 brian_vita@cssinc.com From dillane@sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 26 19:01:04 2009 From: dillane@sbcglobal.net (Bill Dillane) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:01:04 -0500 Subject: Waterbury, CT Area Radio Pictures Message-ID: <006601ca8687$af2f2590$0d8d70b0$@net> >The left most tower in the pic used to hold WATR-TV and the right most tower used to hold WATR-FM.. at least that's what I think because the lights on the left and right towers aren't actually at the top of the towers themselves, they are 20 or so feet above them on top of a red mast like object. FM and TV never transmitted from the AM site. >Based on the day pattern, I assume the site is south of Waterbury. Am I right? South end of Waterbury. >Even more surprising is that the towers are a) just barely taller than 200' and b) all three are illuminated. Is there an airport nearby? Oxford Airport is about 10 miles to the west near the Oxford/Middlebury line, but I don't know if that's the reason for the lights. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Dec 27 16:04:58 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:04:58 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? Message-ID: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> An editor friend of mine, who normally writes articles about popular culture, asked me for my list of the most important radio personalities of all time in Boston-- she's asking people in a number of other cities too. She wanted to know about the radio people who are/were considered the best-known, most popular, in other words, the people who made a major impact in Boston, whether they got huge ratings or not. While it's hard to name just a few (she suggested no more than 6 or 7), I was thinking Arnie Ginsburg, David Brudnoy, Bob Clayton, Jerry Williams, Dick Summer or perhaps Bruce Bradley, Carl deSuze or maybe Dave Maynard... and I wanted to say somebody from sports-- like Curt Gowdy, who got started in radio but later was identified with TV... wow, I could probably name about 20, but who would you say fit her criteria-- best known, most popular, somebody who made a major impact in some way (whether through charitable work, getting quoted a lot, being identified with some major area of broadcasting like sports or news or some niche format)... What would your list of Boston's top radio personalities be-- and why would you choose the ones that you decided on? From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Dec 27 16:44:35 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:44:35 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: You can't leave out Jess Cain and Larry Glick. Either of them certainly outranks Dick Summer or Bruce Bradley. And what about Bob and Ray, who got their start here, and for that matter, Tom and Ray? Should personalities who went on to national prominence but who were first very prominent in Boston radio not be included? I don't think you will ever be able to compile a list that everybody will agree on. ----- Dan Strassberg eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 4:04 PM Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? > An editor friend of mine, who normally writes articles about popular > culture, asked me for my list of the most important radio personalities of > all time in Boston-- she's asking people in a number of other cities too. > She wanted to know about the radio people who are/were considered the > best-known, most popular, in other words, the people who made a major > impact in Boston, whether they got huge ratings or not. > > While it's hard to name just a few (she suggested no more than 6 or 7), I > was thinking Arnie Ginsburg, David Brudnoy, Bob Clayton, Jerry Williams, > Dick Summer or perhaps Bruce Bradley, Carl deSuze or maybe Dave Maynard... > and I wanted to say somebody from sports-- like Curt Gowdy, who got > started in radio but later was identified with TV... wow, I could probably > name about 20, but who would you say fit her criteria-- best known, most > popular, somebody who made a major impact in some way (whether through > charitable work, getting quoted a lot, being identified with some major > area of broadcasting like sports or news or some niche format)... What > would your list of Boston's top radio personalities be-- and why would you > choose the ones that you decided on? From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Dec 27 17:11:51 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:11:51 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <20091227221152.6BACA22AF81@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 04:44 PM 12/27/2009, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >You can't leave out Jess Cain and Larry Glick. Either of them certainly >outranks Dick Summer or Bruce Bradley. And what about Bob and Ray, who got >their start here, Wow-- you guys are really jogging my memory. Bob and Ray went national, but yes they were beloved in Boston. They were on the same station as Hum and Strum, as I recall (not a joke-- there really was a vocal duo named Hum & Strum-- Max Zides and Tom Courier, I believe; they were very popular in the late 40s/ early 50s). I agree on Larry Glick, may he rest in peace. And Jess Cain-- we really did have some amazing personalities on the air here... From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Dec 27 17:33:03 2009 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:33:03 -0600 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: <20091227221152.6BACA22AF81@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <20091227221152.6BACA22AF81@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770912271433n1c140057wdd7147c7b9d52b31@mail.gmail.com> Dan beat me to it but Jess, Bob and Ray from HDH Arnie and Jerry Williams. Bob Kennedy, Glick, Dick Summer and even Bruce Bradley. Charles at BCN. Curt Gowdy, Ned Martin, Ken Coleman, Gil Santos, Fred Cusick, Bob Wilson and Johnny Most. Gus Saunders kept the Yankee Network alive. Finally you have to include Eddie Andleman and the Sports Huddle who proved sports radio could produce big numbers especially when they were on Wyoming Blasting and Zoning. If I had to pick one name however it would be Jess Cain. He never once in 35 years 'mailed it in'. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Dec 27 19:57:02 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:57:02 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <20091227221152.6BACA22AF81@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: Oh, m'gosh! How could I forget Norm Nathan? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 5:11 PM Subject: Re: top radio personalities in Boston? > At 04:44 PM 12/27/2009, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >>You can't leave out Jess Cain and Larry Glick. Either of them >>certainly >>outranks Dick Summer or Bruce Bradley. And what about Bob and Ray, >>who got >>their start here, > > Wow-- you guys are really jogging my memory. Bob and Ray went > national, but yes they were beloved in Boston. They were on the > same station as Hum and Strum, as I recall (not a joke-- there > really was a vocal duo named Hum & Strum-- Max Zides and Tom > Courier, I believe; they were very popular in the late 40s/ early > 50s). I agree on Larry Glick, may he rest in peace. And Jess > Cain-- we really did have some amazing personalities on the air > here... From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Dec 27 22:47:06 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:47:06 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: <8CC55515FA1E808-143C-8225@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com> References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <8CC55515FA1E808-143C-8225@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20091228034707.ADF951DD585@relay7.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> So who comes to mind as our dominant sportscaster? Curt Gowdy was my first thought, but he left for a network career... From nostaticatall@charter.net Sun Dec 27 22:51:05 2009 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:51:05 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <20091227221152.6BACA22AF81@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: I don't think you can leave out Dale Dorman. He had a major impact on Boston Radio for many years. He's also in the Radio Hall of Fame. And Matt Siegel should also be in the conversation. He's been the dominant morning show personality in Boston for well over a quarter century. He'd be on my list. -Dave Tomm On Dec 27, 2009, at 7:57 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Oh, m'gosh! How could I forget Norm Nathan? > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" > > To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; > > Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 5:11 PM > Subject: Re: top radio personalities in Boston? > > >> At 04:44 PM 12/27/2009, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >>> You can't leave out Jess Cain and Larry Glick. Either of them >>> certainly >>> outranks Dick Summer or Bruce Bradley. And what about Bob and Ray, >>> who got >>> their start here, >> >> Wow-- you guys are really jogging my memory. Bob and Ray went >> national, but yes they were beloved in Boston. They were on the >> same station as Hum and Strum, as I recall (not a joke-- there >> really was a vocal duo named Hum & Strum-- Max Zides and Tom >> Courier, I believe; they were very popular in the late 40s/ early >> 50s). I agree on Larry Glick, may he rest in peace. And Jess >> Cain-- we really did have some amazing personalities on the air >> here... > From nostaticatall@charter.net Sun Dec 27 22:56:52 2009 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (Dave Tomm) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:56:52 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: <20091228034707.ADF951DD585@relay7.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <8CC55515FA1E808-143C-8225@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com> <20091228034707.ADF951DD585@relay7.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <2D52C2A5-8525-4AD1-907F-2D21D60C0C36@charter.net> If not Curt Gowdy, I'd have to say Gil Santos. His sports reports on WBZ were always well done over a very long period of time. He has his following as the Patriots play by play announcer, even though I'm not much of a fan of that part of his broadcasting career. The Red Sox announcers over the years became very beloved due to familiarity, but none of them had much impact overall on Boston Radio, IMHO. -Dave Tomm On Dec 27, 2009, at 10:47 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > So who comes to mind as our dominant sportscaster? Curt Gowdy was > my first thought, but he left for a network career... From rac@gabrielmass.com Sun Dec 27 23:10:16 2009 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:10:16 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4B382FA8.9070707@server4.gabrielmass.com> On 12/27/2009 04:04 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > What would your list of Boston's top radio personalities be-- > and why would you choose the ones that you decided on? I'd include Robert J. Lurtsema as the pre-eminent voice of classical music radio in Boston. Of course we've talked on the list many times about Ken Mayer's special niche Sunday after midnight. --rc From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Dec 27 23:13:58 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:13:58 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com>, Message-ID: <4B383086.28494.6506AB@joe.attorneyross.com> How about Big Brother Bob Emery? He was around on radio and TV for a very long time and had a national TV show for 4 years on the DuMont network. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Dec 27 23:45:02 2009 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:45:02 -0600 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: <2D52C2A5-8525-4AD1-907F-2D21D60C0C36@charter.net> References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <8CC55515FA1E808-143C-8225@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com> <20091228034707.ADF951DD585@relay7.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <2D52C2A5-8525-4AD1-907F-2D21D60C0C36@charter.net> Message-ID: <4fc429770912272045t36475f9ch388512be82d4302c@mail.gmail.com> Sports - away from play by play 3 names Guy Mainella - proved a call in sports show could deliver Eddie Andleman - In the 70's and 80's none better Glenn Ordway - He built WEEI into a powerhouse. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Dec 27 23:21:55 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:21:55 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com>, <4B383086.28494.6506AB@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Was he on radio? I always thought of him as a TV guy, but he probably was on radio first. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 11:13 PM Subject: Re: top radio personalities in Boston? > How about Big Brother Bob Emery? He was around on radio and TV for > a > very long time and had a national TV show for 4 years on the DuMont > network. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From Cdsull502@aol.com Mon Dec 28 00:02:39 2009 From: Cdsull502@aol.com (Cdsull502@aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:02:39 EST Subject: Top Radio Personalities Message-ID: It seems to me that Johnny Most would have to be on the list. It's tough to find a more beloved figure in the history of Boston Radio. I'm on the fence about Ned Martin---you could argue that since his career was split between radio & TV, he would not qualify. It is also unfortunate that his TV work was not nearly as good as his radio play by play skills. Carl De Suze would have to be some where on the list. On the plus side, his longevity and popularity would certainly qualify him. On the down side, he was clearly "phoning it in" for the last 10 or so years of his tenure. He probably stayed too long; he should have retired sooner. Chris Sullivan CdSull502@aol.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Dec 28 00:43:28 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:43:28 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <4B383086.28494.6506AB@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <20091228054330.23D631B400E@relay17.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 11:21 PM 12/27/2009, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >Was he on radio? I always thought of him as a TV guy, but he probably >was on radio first. Big Brother Bob Emery's career began on the late lamented 1XE/WGI (greater Boston's pioneering radio station) in mid-1921. He created the Big Brother Club there in early 1924, and later in the year, took it to WEEI, where it stayed for the next 6 or so years. He was briefly on the Yankee Network, but ultimately, he got a network gig in New York circa 1933, and later was on WOR for a few years. So yes, his radio career lasted several decades, before he ended up on TV with Dumont and then finally returned to Boston and WBZ-TV. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Dec 28 00:44:49 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:44:49 -0500 Subject: Top Radio Personalities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20091228054450.F2EA91B651F@relay17.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 12:02 AM 12/28/2009, Cdsull502@aol.com wrote: >It seems to me that Johnny Most would have to be on the list. OH yeah-- absolutely!!! What a legend, back when play-by-play announcers on radio knew how to really describe the action. Nobody described it with more enthusiasm (or rooted harder for the Celtics) than Johnny did... From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Dec 28 00:49:48 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:49:48 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com>, Message-ID: <4B3846FC.32735.BCC560@joe.attorneyross.com> On 27 Dec 2009 at 23:21, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Was he on radio? I always thought of him as a TV guy, but he probably > was on radio first. I'm sure Donna can answer definitively, but I do believe he was on radio first. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From gregstrickland@gmail.com Wed Dec 23 11:53:29 2009 From: gregstrickland@gmail.com (Greg Strickland) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:53:29 -0500 Subject: WCRB audio Message-ID: <14c4c7290912230853u576532di19d3e291b1bf7230@mail.gmail.com> Perhaps the studio to transmitter link is now different, employing data rate reduction? Something like that could degrade audio quality in an unsettling way that may be hard to put a finger on. btw- this is a general comment, I have not heard the station, no horse in this race. From Romy@goodsoundclub.com Sat Dec 26 16:18:13 2009 From: Romy@goodsoundclub.com (Romy) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:18:13 -0500 Subject: WCRB audio In-Reply-To: <005d01ca8652$75653e10$602fba30$@com> References: <005d01ca8652$75653e10$602fba30$@com> Message-ID: <000601ca8670$efafb790$cf0f26b0$@com> *** Has anyone else noticed the deterioration of the once rich and vibrant WCRB audio since WGBH took over? It is now very thin and washed out sounding.......unlistenable, I'm not talking about less compression or other processing, Now just thin bass and no vibrant sparkle or depth. Was a pleasure to listen to, no longer. It is very much not my observation. If you have good reception (big if) then the new WCRB has phenomenal sound nowadays. Compression is very low, there is no problem with extension in both directions. If you feel that WCRB before the December First was " pleasure to listen" then you need to reevaluate your reference points as WCRB was garbage before.... Rgs, Romy the Cat From lglavin@mail.com Sun Dec 27 16:19:13 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:19:13 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <8CC55515FA1E808-143C-8225@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com> >-----Original Message----- >From: Donna Halper >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Sent: Sun, Dec 27, 2009 4:04 pm >Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? >An editor friend of mine, who normally writes articles about popular culture, asked me for my list of the most important radio personalities of all time in Boston-- she's asking people in a >number of other cities too. She wanted to know about the radio people who are/were considered the best-known, most popular, in other words, the people who made a major impact in >Boston, whether they got huge ratings or not. >While it's hard to name just a few (she suggested no more than 6 or 7), I was thinking Arnie Ginsburg, David Brudnoy, Bob Clayton, Jerry Williams, Dick Summer or perhaps Bruce Bradley, >Carl deSuze or maybe Dave Maynard... and I wanted to say somebody from sports-- like Curt Gowdy, who got started in radio but later was identified with TV... wow, I could probably >name about 20, but who would you say fit her criteria-- best known, most popular, somebody who made a major impact in some way (whether through charitable work, getting quoted a >lot, being identified with some major area of broadcasting like sports or news or some niche format)... What would your list of Boston's top radio personalities be-- and why would you >choose the ones that you decided on? Of course, mentioning David Brudnoy's name brings up memories of a time when there was genuinely intelligent talk on the commercial radio dial; but let us not forget Gene Burns, who was also in that firmament. And although he was occasionally reprimanded for a certain "pomposity", the late Robert J. Lurtsema was a true original. From sistersheila@yahoo.com Sun Dec 27 17:23:05 2009 From: sistersheila@yahoo.com (Sheila McCarthy) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:23:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: <20091227221152.6BACA22AF81@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <380162.29424.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jerry Williams? Guy Manila (sp.)? --- On Sun, 12/27/09, Donna Halper wrote: From: Donna Halper Subject: Re: top radio personalities in Boston? To: "Dan.Strassberg" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Date: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 4:11 PM At 04:44 PM 12/27/2009, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > You can't leave out Jess Cain and Larry Glick. Either of them certainly > outranks Dick Summer or Bruce Bradley. And what about Bob and Ray, who got > their start here, Wow-- you guys are really jogging my memory.? Bob and Ray went national, but yes they were beloved in Boston.? They were on the same station as Hum and Strum, as I recall (not a joke-- there really was a vocal duo named Hum & Strum-- Max Zides and Tom Courier, I believe; they were very popular in the late 40s/ early 50s).? I agree on Larry Glick, may he rest in peace.? And Jess Cain-- we really did have some amazing personalities on the air here...? From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Dec 28 04:59:53 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:59:53 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: <380162.29424.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20091227221152.6BACA22AF81@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <380162.29424.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901ca87a4$86ccde80$c4141bac@whdh.com> Ron Della Chiesa probably belongs somewhere on the list. From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Dec 28 06:31:58 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 06:31:58 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? References: <20091227221152.6BACA22AF81@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com><380162.29424.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000901ca87a4$86ccde80$c4141bac@whdh.com> Message-ID: <18A5E17D065646AD895008E3A4E4150D@SatU205S5044> If only it hadn't taken Della Chiesa s-o-o-o long to learn to tone down the hard-sell commercials on the leased-time version of MusicAmerica that began appearing on WPLM-FM after WGBH axed the original non-commercial version of the show. I know that the radio business is often thought to be centered around commercial pitches, and Tin Pan Alley itself was a highly commercial industry, but those of us who love the music and lyrics of the Great American Song Book believe that that content somehow managed to transcend the blatant huxterism. I think Della Chiesa's embrace of hard-sell commercials should disqualify him from Donna's list. OTOH, Danny Stiles--not a Boston personality, though his old noncommercial programs done for WNYC in New York are now heard in Boston late at night on leased-time WRCA (AM)--was, for decades, the quintessential hard-sell pitchman on such New York-area stations as WNJR and WEVD. I thought Stiles' commercials were pretty offensive too, but I wouldn't begrudge him being on a New York list similar to the Boston list that Donna is trying to put together. Go figure! I guess Della Chiesa and Bill Marlowe (there's a name I haven't noticed anyone suggesting for Donna's list) as pitchmen really were re-incarnations of Stiles. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 4:59 AM Subject: RE: top radio personalities in Boston? > > Ron Della Chiesa probably belongs somewhere on the list. > From dillane@sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 28 07:17:07 2009 From: dillane@sbcglobal.net (Bill Dillane) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:17:07 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston?Talk hosts from the 70s: Jerry Williams, Paul Benzaquin, Steve Fredericks and Avi Nelson. Message-ID: <001001ca87b7$acc1afe0$06450fa0$@net> Talk hosts from the 70s: Jerry Williams, Paul Benzaquin, Steve Fredericks and Avi Nelson. Prior to his radio and TV career, Benzaquin wrote a book about the tragic Coconut Grove fire. From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Mon Dec 28 07:57:37 2009 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:57:37 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20091228075302.027d3d00@plymouthcolony.net> This thread has brought back plenty of memories. I'll second Arnie Ginsburg and nominate another announcer from a very different period at WMEX - John Garabedian. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZU / WZZI / WLNI / WVMP http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From atolz@comcast.net Mon Dec 28 08:23:23 2009 From: atolz@comcast.net (Alan Tolz) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:23:23 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: To answer Donna's question... 1. Charles Laquidara - He revolutionized morning radio in Boston, was the personality around whom his station's franchise was built and he still influences a generation of Boston broadcasters, like Matty Seigel, Carter Alan, etc... 2. Jerry Williams - Bigger than Boston, but did his most immportant work here. By virture of timing and talent he filled the role of pioneer (WMEX) , standard-bearer (WBZ), and elder statesman, where at WRKO, that station's franchise was built aroud him. Like Charles, he was important beyond enterrtainment value. 3. Jess Cain - Important as most beloved talent on Boston's airwaves for a long period of time. His stations fortunes were also tied to him. 4. Arnie Ginsburg - Because of the time in which he performed and the lasting effect his popularity had (has) on Boston's baby boom generation. 5. Gary LaPierre - Arguablly Boston's greatest radio news voice. He became a personality by virtue of the huge WBZ signal and longevity there. 6. Glen Ordway - Of all the sports guys - PBP excluded - he fulfills the criteria of being the "franchise player" in a format that only recently has become one of the most important formats for radio's future survival. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 4:04 PM Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? > An editor friend of mine, who normally writes articles about popular > culture, asked me for my list of the most important radio personalities of > all time in Boston-- she's asking people in a number of other cities too. > She wanted to know about the radio people who are/were considered the > best-known, most popular, in other words, the people who made a major > impact in Boston, whether they got huge ratings or not. > > While it's hard to name just a few (she suggested no more than 6 or 7), I > was thinking Arnie Ginsburg, David Brudnoy, Bob Clayton, Jerry Williams, > Dick Summer or perhaps Bruce Bradley, Carl deSuze or maybe Dave Maynard... > and I wanted to say somebody from sports-- like Curt Gowdy, who got > started in radio but later was identified with TV... wow, I could probably > name about 20, but who would you say fit her criteria-- best known, most > popular, somebody who made a major impact in some way (whether through > charitable work, getting quoted a lot, being identified with some major > area of broadcasting like sports or news or some niche format)... What > would your list of Boston's top radio personalities be-- and why would you > choose the ones that you decided on? > From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Dec 28 13:09:38 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:09:38 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston?Talk hosts from the 70s: Jerry Williams, Paul Benzaquin, In-Reply-To: <001001ca87b7$acc1afe0$06450fa0$@net> References: <001001ca87b7$acc1afe0$06450fa0$@net> Message-ID: <20091228180940.ED08A20D39C@relay12.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 07:17 AM 12/28/2009, Bill Dillane wrote: > Prior to his radio and TV career, Benzaquin wrote a book >about the tragic Coconut Grove fire. And as I like to point out to my students, that book shows how the language has changed. When he wrote it in the mid 1950s, the first edition was called "Holocaust"-- I have a copy of it, and back then, the word still referred mainly to a raging fire, rather than its later meaning of what the Nazis did during World War 2. When the second edition came out, Benzaquin had to re-name it. (Btw, I haven't heard about Paul in ages-- I saw him about five years ago and he was in poor health but doing fairly well, given his age. Anyone heard further about him?) From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Dec 28 13:44:35 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:44:35 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20091228075302.027d3d00@plymouthcolony.net> References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20091228075302.027d3d00@plymouthcolony.net> Message-ID: <20091228184439.444D91B4031@relay15.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 07:57 AM 12/28/2009, Dale H. Cook wrote: >This thread has brought back plenty of memories. I'll second Arnie >Ginsburg and nominate another announcer from a very different period >at WMEX - John Garabedian. I used to love listening to John H. Garabedian. And Arnie was my cultural hero-- the inspiration for my getting into radio. Ah yes, remember when disc jockeys could inspire people? My parents loved Bob Clayton and Fred B. Cole and we always listened to Bob and Ray, as well as Ken and Bill (remember then-- Ken Wilson at the organ, and Bill Green at the piano, if my memory serves...). From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Mon Dec 28 22:09:55 2009 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (revdoug1@myfairpoint.net) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:09:55 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? Message-ID: <20091228220955.ptvy4lf6k1s00ss4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> John H. --- Great voice, great personality. I remember him at WMEX and as Johnny Gardner at WORC and WPTR. -Doug Quoting Donna Halper : > At 07:57 AM 12/28/2009, Dale H. Cook wrote: > >This thread has brought back plenty of memories. I'll second Arnie > >Ginsburg and nominate another announcer from a very different period > >at WMEX - John Garabedian. > > I used to love listening to John H. Garabedian. And Arnie was my > cultural hero-- the inspiration for my getting into radio. Ah yes, > remember when disc jockeys could inspire people? My parents loved > Bob Clayton and Fred B. Cole and we always listened to Bob and Ray, > as well as Ken and Bill (remember then-- Ken Wilson at the organ, and > Bill Green at the piano, if my memory serves...). > From rlevy@broadcastsignallab.com Mon Dec 28 23:36:26 2009 From: rlevy@broadcastsignallab.com (Rick Levy) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:36:26 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? Message-ID: <454BDC987F5D49C792F2BA324D4D5F38@Titan> Since no one else has mentioned them, I will nominate three Bills for (at least!) Honorable Mention: Bill Pierce (early 'GBH voice of the BSO), Bill Cavness (host of "Reading Aloud" for 33 years) - and Bill Marlowe, surely a giant of Boston radio (recommended reading: http://www.gmmy.com/crooners/martino/bill.htm ). Rick Levy Broadcast Signal Lab, LLP Cambridge, Mass. www.broadcastsignallab.com www.rfsigns.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Dec 29 01:20:08 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:20:08 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston?Talk hosts from the 70s: Jerry Williams, Paul Benzaquin, In-Reply-To: <20091228180940.ED08A20D39C@relay12.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <001001ca87b7$acc1afe0$06450fa0$@net>, <20091228180940.ED08A20D39C@relay12.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4B399F98.9498.80B130@joe.attorneyross.com> On 28 Dec 2009 at 13:09, Donna Halper wrote: > And as I like to point out to my students, that book shows how the > language has changed. When he wrote it in the mid 1950s, the first > edition was called "Holocaust"-- I have a copy of it, and back then, > the word still referred mainly to a raging fire, rather than its later > meaning of what the Nazis did during World War 2. Wow! I didn't even =know= that the word "holocaust" originally meant that! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Tue Dec 29 13:55:19 2009 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:55:19 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? References: <20091228220955.ptvy4lf6k1s00ss4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <001b01ca88b8$78f40b20$a2984c0c@oemcomputer> And I remember listening to him mix progressive rock and album cuts with Top 40 at little WGTR, with that primitive voicetracking that allowed either him or Don Kelley to be on the air seven days a week. Agree, a great radio personality, but a little too "out of the box" to become a legend rather than a cult figure. Regarding a previous posting: I also remember reading Paul Benzaquin's "Holocaust" in the late '60s. That was still the title on the copy the library had. When was it changed? Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Dale H. Cook ; ; Donna Halper Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 10:09 PM Subject: Re: top radio personalities in Boston? > John H. --- Great voice, great personality. I remember him at WMEX and > as Johnny Gardner at WORC and WPTR. -Doug > > Quoting Donna Halper : > > At 07:57 AM 12/28/2009, Dale H. Cook wrote: > > >This thread has brought back plenty of memories. I'll second Arnie > > >Ginsburg and nominate another announcer from a very different period > > >at WMEX - John Garabedian. > > > > I used to love listening to John H. Garabedian. And Arnie was my > > cultural hero-- the inspiration for my getting into radio. Ah yes, > > remember when disc jockeys could inspire people? My parents loved > > Bob Clayton and Fred B. Cole and we always listened to Bob and Ray, > > as well as Ken and Bill (remember then-- Ken Wilson at the organ, and > > Bill Green at the piano, if my memory serves...). > > > > > > > From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Tue Dec 29 14:01:25 2009 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:01:25 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston?Talk hosts from the 70s: JerryWilliams, Paul Benzaquin, References: <001001ca87b7$acc1afe0$06450fa0$@net>, <20091228180940.ED08A20D39C@relay12.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <4B399F98.9498.80B130@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <003101ca88b9$52ed6f60$a2984c0c@oemcomputer> Joseph A. Ross wrote: > On 28 Dec 2009 at 13:09, Donna Halper wrote: > > > And as I like to point out to my students, that book shows how the > > language has changed. When he wrote it in the mid 1950s, the first > > edition was called "Holocaust"-- I have a copy of it, and back then, > > the word still referred mainly to a raging fire, rather than its later > > meaning of what the Nazis did during World War 2. > > Wow! I didn't even =know= that the word "holocaust" originally meant > that! > The deadly fire at that Rhode Island club a few years ago would have been called a "holocaust" in news coverage if it had happened 50 or 60 years ago. I don't think anyone called it that when it happened or call it that today. "Inferno" and "conflagration" seem to be the operative synonyms now. Howard From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Dec 29 15:25:01 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:25:01 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston?Talk hosts from the 70s:JerryWilliams, Paul Benzaquin, References: <001001ca87b7$acc1afe0$06450fa0$@net>, <20091228180940.ED08A20D39C@relay12.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com><4B399F98.9498.80B130@joe.attorneyross.com> <003101ca88b9$52ed6f60$a2984c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <4E91FFBA2D5B412097B1AD29CA42103A@SatU205S5044> It seems to me that, even before the word holocaust became reserved for the Nazi horrors of Word War II, it was usually applied to a special type of conflagration--one that occurred in nature (a forest fire, for example) as opposed to an inferno, which I think might have been the word of choice for such purposely set blazes as those used in metal fabrication (steel mills, for example). However, maybe I am imagining the distinction. If I am correct, though, holocaust was not the best word to describe the Holocaust, since there was nothing natural about the Holocaust. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Glazer" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Donna Halper" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:01 PM Subject: Re: top radio personalities in Boston?Talk hosts from the 70s:JerryWilliams, Paul Benzaquin, > Joseph A. Ross wrote: > >> On 28 Dec 2009 at 13:09, Donna Halper wrote: >> >> > And as I like to point out to my students, that book shows how >> > the >> > language has changed. When he wrote it in the mid 1950s, the >> > first >> > edition was called "Holocaust"-- I have a copy of it, and back >> > then, >> > the word still referred mainly to a raging fire, rather than its >> > later >> > meaning of what the Nazis did during World War 2. >> >> Wow! I didn't even =know= that the word "holocaust" originally >> meant >> that! >> > > The deadly fire at that Rhode Island club a few years ago would have > been > called a "holocaust" in news coverage if it had happened 50 or 60 > years ago. > I don't think anyone called it that when it happened or call it that > today. > "Inferno" and "conflagration" seem to be the operative synonyms now. > > Howard > > > From hykker@wildblue.net Tue Dec 29 15:30:40 2009 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:30:40 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: <001b01ca88b8$78f40b20$a2984c0c@oemcomputer> References: <20091228220955.ptvy4lf6k1s00ss4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <001b01ca88b8$78f40b20$a2984c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <4b3a671b.8602be0a.420b.7963@mx.google.com> Howard Glazer wrote: >And I remember listening to him (John Garabedian) mix progressive >rock and album cuts with Top40 at little WGTR, with that primitive >voicetracking that allowed either him >or Don Kelley to be on the air seven days a week. Agree, a great radio >personality, but a little too "out of the box" to become a legend rather >than a cult figure. I would put Larry Glick (mentioned earlier) in this category as well. Didn't Glick spend his entire career doing late nights/overnights? Most people aren't listening to the radio at 3am, so I'm not sure there's even high name recognition outside of radio geeks. Not sure what you mean by "out of the box" in reference to Garabedian, but he didn't seem to stick with any one thing long enough to become "legendary". Good jock though, and V-66 definitely deserves honorable mention (much better than MTV imho). Got to sit in on Open House Party a few times...it was amazing to watch him doing the Saturday show live while simultaneously voicetracking the Sunday night show, all with a studio audience of a couple dozen. A real pro. From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Dec 29 16:10:03 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:10:03 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston?Talk hosts from the 70s:JerryWilliams, Paul Benzaquin, In-Reply-To: <4E91FFBA2D5B412097B1AD29CA42103A@SatU205S5044> References: <001001ca87b7$acc1afe0$06450fa0$@net> <20091228180940.ED08A20D39C@relay12.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <4B399F98.9498.80B130@joe.attorneyross.com> <003101ca88b9$52ed6f60$a2984c0c@oemcomputer> <4E91FFBA2D5B412097B1AD29CA42103A@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <20091229211008.E8735209389@relay8.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 03:25 PM 12/29/2009, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >It seems to me that, even before the word holocaust became reserved >for the Nazi horrors of Word War II, it was usually applied to a >special type of conflagration--one that occurred in nature (a forest >fire, for example) as opposed to an inferno, which I think might have >been the word of choice for such purposely set blazes as those used in >metal fabrication (steel mills, for example). However, maybe I am >imagining the distinction. Well, since it came up as a topic of conversation (and since I teach this stuff-- the changing meanings of words and phrases), in the late 1800s, newspapers used it to refer not just to burning people but to any mass slaughter of innocents, such as when in late July 1858, Muslims in what is today Saudi Arabia rounded up a large number of Christian citizens and according to press reports, brutally attacked them. The New York Times referred to this as a holocaust of the Christian population, in describing how mobs set upon a group of Christians, including the British and French consuls, killing them all. But yes, normally it was used to describe mass deaths in a fast-moving or raging fire. The terms "inferno" and "conflagration" were also in common use, but holocaust seemed to carry the connotation of an especially major fire with extreme losses of life, such as when 71 people died in a fire in a Catholic church in Holyoke in May 1875. The word's other meaning-- a massive loss of life in a catastrophic event, whether a fire or some other disaster, could occasionally be seen as far back as 1933, but usually as a result of referring to the large bonfires the Nazis made when burning books or setting Jewish stores on fire-- so it was still associated mainly with fire in the 30s and much of the 40s. Not many of the radio reporters of the 1940s (whose scripts I've seen) referred to what the Nazis had done as a Holocaust at that time. In 1948, when the declaration of independence for the state of Israel was announced, it referred to the "Nazi holocaust which engulfed millions of Jews," but it was only one of a number of terms used by the newspapers. It would not be until the late 50s and early 60s that the term "The Holocaust" was finally established as the generally accepted terminology for what happened to the Jews in World War 2. From theseacoast@maine.rr.com Wed Dec 30 12:32:03 2009 From: theseacoast@maine.rr.com (The Seacoast) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:32:03 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: <001b01ca88b8$78f40b20$a2984c0c@oemcomputer> References: <20091228220955.ptvy4lf6k1s00ss4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <001b01ca88b8$78f40b20$a2984c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: My Boston nominees would include Bud Ballou, John H. Garabedian, (Uncle) Dale, and Bruce Bradley, to name a few. SS And I remember listening to him mix progressive rock and album cuts with Top 40 at little WGTR, with that primitive voicetracking that allowed either him or Don Kelley to be on the air seven days a week. Agree, a great radio personality, but a little too "out of the box" to become a legend rather than a cult figure. Regarding a previous posting: I also remember reading Paul Benzaquin's "Holocaust" in the late '60s. That was still the title on the copy the library had. When was it changed? Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Dale H. Cook ; ; Donna Halper Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 10:09 PM Subject: Re: top radio personalities in Boston? > John H. --- Great voice, great personality. I remember him at WMEX and > as Johnny Gardner at WORC and WPTR. -Doug > > Quoting Donna Halper : > > At 07:57 AM 12/28/2009, Dale H. Cook wrote: > > >This thread has brought back plenty of memories. I'll second Arnie > > >Ginsburg and nominate another announcer from a very different > > >period at WMEX - John Garabedian. > > > > I used to love listening to John H. Garabedian. And Arnie was my > > cultural hero-- the inspiration for my getting into radio. Ah yes, > > remember when disc jockeys could inspire people? My parents loved > > Bob Clayton and Fred B. Cole and we always listened to Bob and Ray, > > as well as Ken and Bill (remember then-- Ken Wilson at the organ, > > and Bill Green at the piano, if my memory serves...). > > > > > > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Dec 30 14:35:28 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:35:28 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? Message-ID: <20091230193536.E8C6EE2231D@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> SO my friend is an editor, and we were discussing the important role that the broadcast media still play in people's lives. She is thinking of setting up a tribute website to the top 5 personalities in each major market-- top 5 in radio, top 5 in TV. (I've got lots of photos of radio folks, though not that many from TV at this point...) Anyway, I don't think 5 is enough, but I digress. So, having thought about the top radio personalities in town (btw, thanks to those who mentioned Dale Dorman-- I totally agree), I was thinking of the top TV personalities in Boston and immediately came up with more than 5-- like Liz and Jack, or Chet and Natalie, or Rex Trailer, or Major Mudd, Jack Chase... From jay_lavelle@earthlink.net Mon Dec 28 08:10:43 2009 From: jay_lavelle@earthlink.net (Jay Lavelle) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:10:43 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: <4B382FA8.9070707@server4.gabrielmass.com> References: <20091227210500.76B2444C022@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <4B382FA8.9070707@server4.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <4B38AE53.4060902@earthlink.net> Has anyone mentioned Charles Laquadara or Maxine Sartori? Or the anti-Maxine, Lisa Karlin? Richard Chonak wrote: > On 12/27/2009 04:04 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > > What would your list of Boston's top radio personalities be-- > > and why would you choose the ones that you decided on? > > I'd include Robert J. Lurtsema as the pre-eminent voice of classical > music radio in Boston. > > Of course we've talked on the list many times about Ken Mayer's > special niche Sunday after midnight. > > --rc > > From Romy@goodsoundclub.com Mon Dec 28 18:42:32 2009 From: Romy@goodsoundclub.com (Romy) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:42:32 -0500 Subject: Anything We Can Do for Classical Music Radio in Boston? Message-ID: <000001ca8817$6da44d30$48ece790$@com> Boston Musical Intelligencer will be presenting a panel discussion at Old South Church, Copley Square, Tuesday, January 5, 6:00 to 7:30 pm. The panel intends to address the overwhelming response of dismay at the diminution of classical music programming in the greater Boston area. Moderator: William M. Bulger, former Massachusetts Senate President and President, University of Massachusetts, board member of the Boston Public Library and Boston Symphony Orchestra Panelists: Richard Dyer, former classical music critic, The Boston Globe; Christopher Lydon, Radio Talk Host; Dave MacNeill, for many decades announcer, then general manager at the old WCRB; and John Voci, general manager, WGBH Respondents: reviewers for The Boston Musical Intelligencer: Mark DeVoto, John W. Ehrlich, Brian Jones, Peter Van Zandt Lane, Tom Schnauber. http://classical-scene.com/2009/12/24/anything-we-can-do-for-classical-music -radio-in-boston/ The Issues: . Friday afternoon broadcasts of the Boston Symphony Orchestra are cancelled. . In Boston's Back Bay, Beacon Hill, and areas south of Boston, listeners are unable to receive a clear signal from "all-classical" WCRB. . Much of the music on WCRB is programed by a Minneapolis syndicate. . Area listeners have lost fifty hours a week of quality classical music. . Do we really need more talk radio and duplicative NPR programming? .Are WGBH contributors pleased with the changes? .Are WCRB listeners pleased? .Will the administration at WGBH reconsider? From lglavin@mail.com Tue Dec 29 17:29:53 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:29:53 -0500 Subject: Link Between IL Senatorial Race & Boston Radio Message-ID: <8CC56ED939B0402-8FC-282A@web-mmc-d01.sysops.aol.com> If you've been surveying the various radio sites on the internets today (Tuesday 12/29), you may have come across a dreadful story about a Republican candidate for US Senator calling himself Andy Martin. He has accused a Democratic Party candidate of being a closeted homosexual in ads being run on major Chicago radio stations. If the name 'Andy Martin' doesn't ring a bell, how about his REAL name: Anthony Martin-Trigona? Scott Fybush chronicled this former owner of WDLW-AM 1330, Waltham, MA in a Northeast Radiowatch column a little over a year ago. http://www.fybush.com/nerw/2008/081013/nerw.html (scroll down to MASSACHUSETTS NEWS) "Andy Martin" also got himself and Sean Hannity in hot water during the 2008 presidential campaign: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/10/08/fox_news/index.html In a recent outburst, he has also accused Wikipedia of being a pro-Obama, tax-exempt scam, possibly because of an unflattering profile of him within that online encyclopedia. (BTW, the article does NOT include any reference to his ownership of WDLW; feel free to fix that!) The Boston Herald has a story about "Andy Martin" on its website, but it does not include his connection to local media. From DanKelleher@clearchannel.com Wed Dec 30 12:37:36 2009 From: DanKelleher@clearchannel.com (Kelleher, Daniel) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:37:36 -0600 Subject: FW: Invitation to WTAG Open House Message-ID: Hi, Perhaps I sent this to the wrong address. Please post. tnx ________________________________ From: Kelleher, Daniel Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:45 PM To: 'boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org' Cc: Davey, Sean Subject: Invitation to WTAG Open House Hello All, The WTAG site in Holden will be open to any and all in the radio community, Saturday January 16th, 10 AM - 4 PM. This transmitter site was built in 1936 and the towers have been banging out five kilowatts on 580 ever since. Whatever WTAG documents, logs, equipment, photos and so forth I have inherited or came across, have been collected at the site. The materials are not well documented. Sorry I do not have it catalogued with dates or details. John Andrews, former Chief Engineer, agreed to attend. John is a fountain of information about the station and he does know details and dates. I noticed recent list interest in WTAG TV. The TV applications are all there, I have read them and it's a fascinating political story. In any case, you are welcome to eyeball it all. We'll even spark up the homebrew Tesla coil! Plan on some food and drink about lunch time. I'll cover sandwiches, drinks and coffee but I need some idea of how many. If you plan on attending please respond via email. A response is not required but might insure you get a sandwich. If you happen to be around and want to stop by, please do. Looking forward to seeing and meeting you next month. 73 Dan Dan Kelleher Chief Engineer -IT Director Clear Channel Radio Worcester WSRS WTAG 96 Stereo Lane Paxton, Mass. 01612 Main Phone 508 757 9696 Office Phone 508 471 2847 Cell Phone 774 364 0157 FCC First Class since 1971 PG-1-11697 KB1BB From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Dec 30 14:59:30 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:59:30 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? In-Reply-To: <001201ca8988$94771470$c7151bac@whdh.com> References: <20091230193536.E8C6EE2231D@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <001201ca8988$94771470$c7151bac@whdh.com> Message-ID: <20091230195939.14D8013D334E@relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> At 02:44 PM 12/30/2009, Larry Weil wrote: >Well, I think Randy Price may be the only person who has been an anchor on >all three major network affilites in Boston. I thought of Randy too-- I liked him back when he was with channel 4, and I am so glad he was able to turn his life around, get sober, marry, and continue having a career in TV news-- even though he is (gasp) older, and the industry seems to be getting rid of older reporters. I find Randy very credible, as I find Jack Williams very credible. Newscasts need some of the veterans, in addition to the young, up-and-coming types who may not know as much as they think they do! From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Dec 30 14:44:51 2009 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:44:51 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? In-Reply-To: <20091230193536.E8C6EE2231D@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> References: <20091230193536.E8C6EE2231D@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <001201ca8988$94771470$c7151bac@whdh.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Donna Halper > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:35 PM > To: bri@bostonradio.org > Subject: top TV personalities???? > > I was > thinking of the top TV personalities in Boston and immediately came > up with more than 5-- like Liz and Jack, or Chet and Natalie, or Rex > Trailer, or Major Mudd, Jack Chase... Well, I think Randy Price may be the only person who has been an anchor on all three major network affilites in Boston. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Dec 30 15:49:38 2009 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:49:38 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? In-Reply-To: <001201ca8988$94771470$c7151bac@whdh.com> References: <20091230193536.E8C6EE2231D@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <001201ca8988$94771470$c7151bac@whdh.com> Message-ID: <04c901ca8991$9adf5030$d09df090$@com> Didn't Tom Ellis work at 4, 5 and 7? -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Weil Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:45 PM To: 'Donna Halper'; bri@bostonradio.org Subject: RE: top TV personalities???? > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Donna Halper > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:35 PM > To: bri@bostonradio.org > Subject: top TV personalities???? > > I was > thinking of the top TV personalities in Boston and immediately came > up with more than 5-- like Liz and Jack, or Chet and Natalie, or Rex > Trailer, or Major Mudd, Jack Chase... Well, I think Randy Price may be the only person who has been an anchor on all three major network affilites in Boston. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Dec 30 16:01:27 2009 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:01:27 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? In-Reply-To: <04c901ca8991$9adf5030$d09df090$@com> References: <20091230193536.E8C6EE2231D@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <001201ca8988$94771470$c7151bac@whdh.com> <04c901ca8991$9adf5030$d09df090$@com> Message-ID: <000601ca8993$4121ea60$c365bf20$@net> > Didn't Tom Ellis work at 4, 5 and 7? I believe so, and of course his last gig was at NECN. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From markwats@comcast.net Wed Dec 30 16:03:22 2009 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:03:22 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? References: <20091230193536.E8C6EE2231D@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <001201ca8988$94771470$c7151bac@whdh.com> Message-ID: Larry Weil wrote: > Well, I think Randy Price may be the only person who has been an anchor on > all three major network affilites in Boston. IIRC, Tom Ellis also anchored at all three major network affiliates in Boston. Also, John Henning worked at WHDH-TV 5 (did he jump over to WCVB when they took over Channel 5?) as well as Channels 4 & 7. Did he anchor at any or all of those stations? Mark Watson From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Dec 30 16:10:46 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:10:46 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: References: <20091228220955.ptvy4lf6k1s00ss4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <001b01ca88b8$78f40b20$a2984c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20091230211054.64918CE4D4C@relay7.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> At 12:32 PM 12/30/2009, The Seacoast wrote: >Regarding a previous posting: I also remember reading Paul Benzaquin's >"Holocaust" in the late '60s. That was still the title on the copy the >library had. When was it changed? First edition had the old title-- 1958. Second edition had a new title, "Fire in Boston's Cocoanut Grove!" in 1967. From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Dec 30 16:36:35 2009 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:36:35 -0600 Subject: top TV personalities???? In-Reply-To: <001201ca8988$94771470$c7151bac@whdh.com> References: <20091230193536.E8C6EE2231D@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <001201ca8988$94771470$c7151bac@whdh.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770912301336h54c5661duc2cd0e1e372b6737@mail.gmail.com> Henning started at channel 7, went to the old and new 5, then back to 7 and finally 4. In the early 60's he was also on channel 2. The biggest TV personality ever spawned in Boston? Julia Child News anchors - Victor Best, Arch McDonald, Jim Jensen, Jack Hynes, Natalie Jacobson, Tom Ellis, Chet Curtis, Jack Williams, Chuck Scarboro, Jack Chase, Liz Walker to name a few Weather - Don Kent, Dick Albert, Harvey Leonard, Bob Copeland, Bruce Sweigler (sic) Sports - The big 3 - Don Gillis, Bob Lobel and Mike Lynch. Bob Gamere should be in the HoF but Clark Booth the best reporter this town has ever seen for news and sports Personalties Frank Avruch (Bozo), Major Mudd, Louise Morgan, John Willis, Janet Langhart, Tom Bergeron, Capt Bob Cottle, Sonya Hamlin, Bob Emery, Rex Trailer, Robin Young, Uncle Gus in Manchester, Al Capp and others I can't recall. Master of the live weather shot - Shelby Scott From revdoug1@myfairpoint.net Wed Dec 30 20:57:07 2009 From: revdoug1@myfairpoint.net (revdoug1@myfairpoint.net) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:57:07 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? Message-ID: <20091230205707.07sizpkluioww0o4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> The only name on your list that I don't recognize is Victor Best, who was (is). . .? -Doug Quoting Kevin Vahey : > Henning started at channel 7, went to the old and new 5, then back to > 7 and finally 4. In the early 60's he was also on channel 2. > > The biggest TV personality ever spawned in Boston? > > Julia Child > > News anchors - Victor Best, Arch McDonald, Jim Jensen, Jack Hynes, > Natalie Jacobson, Tom Ellis, Chet Curtis, Jack Williams, Chuck > Scarboro, Jack Chase, Liz Walker to name a few > > Weather - Don Kent, Dick Albert, Harvey Leonard, Bob Copeland, Bruce > Sweigler (sic) > > Sports - The big 3 - Don Gillis, Bob Lobel and Mike Lynch. > > Bob Gamere should be in the HoF but > > Clark Booth the best reporter this town has ever seen for news and sports > > Personalties > > Frank Avruch (Bozo), Major Mudd, Louise Morgan, John Willis, Janet > Langhart, Tom Bergeron, Capt Bob Cottle, Sonya Hamlin, Bob Emery, Rex > Trailer, Robin Young, Uncle Gus in Manchester, Al Capp and others I > can't recall. > > Master of the live weather shot - Shelby Scott > From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 30 21:26:33 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:26:33 -0500 Subject: Link Between IL Senatorial Race & Boston Radio References: <8CC56ED939B0402-8FC-282A@web-mmc-d01.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: The way I heard the story a couple of times is that Martin accused another REPUBLICAN candidate in the Illinois REPUBLICAN senatorial primary of being Gay. No Democrats were involved. A Republican wrongly accusing a Democrat of being Gay would be even more reprehensible, IMO, but also more expected, because wrongly accusing Democrats of being Gay is what Republicans (or a lot of Republicans) do. A Republican making such an accusation against another Republican is more unusual but less important (because both candidates are Republicans and who--besides Republicans--cares how they destroy each other). As a Democrat, my reaction is go to it boys; knock yourselves out! ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:29 PM Subject: Link Between IL Senatorial Race & Boston Radio If you've been surveying the various radio sites on the internets today (Tuesday 12/29), you may have come across a dreadful story about a Republican candidate for US Senator calling himself Andy Martin. He has accused a Democratic Party candidate of being a closeted homosexual in ads being run on major Chicago radio stations. If the name 'Andy Martin' doesn't ring a bell, how about his REAL name: Anthony Martin-Trigona? Scott Fybush chronicled this former owner of WDLW-AM 1330, Waltham, MA in a Northeast Radiowatch column a little over a year ago. http://www.fybush.com/nerw/2008/081013/nerw.html (scroll down to MASSACHUSETTS NEWS) "Andy Martin" also got himself and Sean Hannity in hot water during the 2008 presidential campaign: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/10/08/fox_news/index.html In a recent outburst, he has also accused Wikipedia of being a pro-Obama, tax-exempt scam, possibly because of an unflattering profile of him within that online encyclopedia. (BTW, the article does NOT include any reference to his ownership of WDLW; feel free to fix that!) The Boston Herald has a story about "Andy Martin" on its website, but it does not include his connection to local media. From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Dec 30 22:11:49 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:11:49 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? In-Reply-To: <20091230205707.07sizpkluioww0o4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20091230205707.07sizpkluioww0o4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: <20091231031157.A8081C0BA@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 08:57 PM 12/30/2009, revdoug1@myfairpoint.net wrote: >The only name on your list that I don't recognize is Victor Best, >who was (is). . .? - Your Esso reporter -- he did the late evening news on channel 4, sponsored by what is today Exxon. He also bought a broadcasting school (Northeast Broadcasting School, iirc) which he ran for a few years. From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Dec 30 22:13:22 2009 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:13:22 -0500 Subject: Link Between IL Senatorial Race & Boston Radio In-Reply-To: References: <8CC56ED939B0402-8FC-282A@web-mmc-d01.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20091231031331.4A032C0A5@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 09:26 PM 12/30/2009, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >The way I heard the story a couple of times is that Martin accused >another REPUBLICAN candidate in the Illinois REPUBLICAN senatorial >primary of being Gay. Before we veer into political arguements, I don't know many people who take "Andy Martin" seriously. He is a KNOWN anti-Semite, and why anyone would quote him is one of life's mysteries. From scott@fybush.com Wed Dec 30 22:24:48 2009 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:24:48 -0500 Subject: Link Between IL Senatorial Race & Boston Radio In-Reply-To: <20091231031331.4A032C0A5@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <8CC56ED939B0402-8FC-282A@web-mmc-d01.sysops.aol.com> <20091231031331.4A032C0A5@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4B3C1980.607@fybush.com> Donna Halper wrote: > At 09:26 PM 12/30/2009, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >> The way I heard the story a couple of times is that Martin accused >> another REPUBLICAN candidate in the Illinois REPUBLICAN senatorial >> primary of being Gay. > > Before we veer into political arguements, I don't know many people who > take "Andy Martin" seriously. He is a KNOWN anti-Semite, and why anyone > would quote him is one of life's mysteries. > > Hence his absence from any further NERW coverage. I'm not interested in giving him the headlines he clearly wants. s From Cdsull502@aol.com Wed Dec 30 22:51:49 2009 From: Cdsull502@aol.com (Cdsull502@aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:51:49 EST Subject: top TV personalities???? Message-ID: I believe John Henning has anchored at all three network affiliates at one time or another----4 Boston network affiliates if you include the old WHDH-TV. He was also on the air for WGBH-TV. Kind of tough to beat that record! Chris Sullivan CdSull502@aol.com In a message dated 12/30/2009 3:45:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kc1ih@mac.com writes: > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Donna Halper > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:35 PM > To: bri@bostonradio.org > Subject: top TV personalities???? > > I was > thinking of the top TV personalities in Boston and immediately came > up with more than 5-- like Liz and Jack, or Chet and Natalie, or Rex > Trailer, or Major Mudd, Jack Chase... Well, I think Randy Price may be the only person who has been an anchor on all three major network affilites in Boston. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From Cdsull502@aol.com Wed Dec 30 22:57:46 2009 From: Cdsull502@aol.com (Cdsull502@aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:57:46 EST Subject: Whooops! Message-ID: I wrote and sent my post about John Henning before I saw that several other folks had posted similar messages. Chris Sullivan CdSull502@aol.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 30 22:12:33 2009 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:12:33 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? References: <20091230193536.E8C6EE2231D@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com><001201ca8988$94771470$c7151bac@whdh.com> <4fc429770912301336h54c5661duc2cd0e1e372b6737@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2127CF2C057C4C298C988E5952BA3940@SatU205S5044> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Larry Weil" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:36 PM Subject: Re: top TV personalities???? > The biggest TV personality ever spawned in Boston? > > Julia Child > Naah... Either Kermit, Ms Piggy, or Big Bird. From Cdsull502@aol.com Wed Dec 30 23:02:54 2009 From: Cdsull502@aol.com (Cdsull502@aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:02:54 EST Subject: Victor Best Message-ID: Didn't Victor Best jump from WBZ-TV to WNAC-TV and engender some bad feelings by announcing his departure to WNAC on his (obviously) last broadcast on channel 4? I'm sure Donna can fill us in on that. Chris Sullivan CdSull502@aol.com From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Dec 30 23:20:13 2009 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:20:13 -0500 Subject: Rush Limbaugh rushed to hospital Message-ID: <04fa01ca89d0$8c710360$a5530a20$@com> NewsCenter 5 is reporting that radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh has been rushed to a hospital in Hawaii where he is vacationing. Their sister station reports that he is in serious condition with chest pains. From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 31 00:49:49 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:49:49 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: References: <20091228220955.ptvy4lf6k1s00ss4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <001b01ca88b8$78f40b20$a2984c0c@oemcomputer>, Message-ID: <4B3C3B7D.5854.55FCA2@joe.attorneyross.com> On 30 Dec 2009 at 12:32, The Seacoast wrote: > My Boston nominees would include Bud Ballou, John H. Garabedian, > (Uncle) Dale, and Bruce Bradley, to name a few. Ah, yes, Bud Ballou. Almost as good as his father, Wally. ;-> -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 31 00:49:51 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:49:51 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? In-Reply-To: <20091230193536.E8C6EE2231D@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> References: <20091230193536.E8C6EE2231D@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4B3C3B7F.24407.5603D6@joe.attorneyross.com> On 30 Dec 2009 at 14:35, Donna Halper wrote: > So, having thought about the top radio personalities in town (btw, > thanks to those who mentioned Dale Dorman-- I totally agree), I was > thinking of the top TV personalities in Boston and immediately came up > with more than 5-- like Liz and Jack, or Chet and Natalie, or Rex > Trailer, or Major Mudd, Jack Chase... Bob Cottle, Frank Avruch, Don Kent, Bob Emery, ... -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 31 00:49:50 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:49:50 -0500 Subject: Anything We Can Do for Classical Music Radio in Boston? In-Reply-To: <000001ca8817$6da44d30$48ece790$@com> References: <000001ca8817$6da44d30$48ece790$@com> Message-ID: <4B3C3B7E.30886.560155@joe.attorneyross.com> On 28 Dec 2009 at 18:42, Romy wrote: > . Friday afternoon broadcasts of the Boston Symphony Orchestra are > cancelled. . In Boston's Back Bay, Beacon Hill, and areas south of > Boston, listeners are unable to receive a clear signal from > "all-classical" WCRB. I understand about parts of Boston, but I don't understand about areas south. WCRB announces that it is also on a station on Nantucket. Does the Nantucket station have that bad a signal? > Much of the music on WCRB is programed by a Minneapolis syndicate. The question for me is how good the music is, not where it comes from. I particularly like the Sunday Baroque programming, and while it's obviously not local, it's good. The economics of classical music programming are not favorable these days, unfortunately. > . Area listeners have lost fifty hours a week of quality classical > music. . Do we really need more talk radio and duplicative NPR > programming? .Are WGBH contributors pleased with the changes? .Are > WCRB listeners pleased? .Will the administration at WGBH > reconsider? I remember, during the 1970s recession, when WGBH faced protests when, in order to save money, they dropped most of their excellent talk programming in favor of classical music. I guess you can't win. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 31 00:49:51 2009 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:49:51 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? In-Reply-To: <20091231031157.A8081C0BA@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20091230205707.07sizpkluioww0o4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <20091231031157.A8081C0BA@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4B3C3B7F.21614.560472@joe.attorneyross.com> On 30 Dec 2009 at 22:11, Donna Halper wrote: > At 08:57 PM 12/30/2009, revdoug1@myfairpoint.net wrote: > >The only name on your list that I don't recognize is Victor Best, who > >was (is). . .? - > > Your Esso reporter -- he did the late evening news on channel 4, > sponsored by what is today Exxon. He also bought a broadcasting > school (Northeast Broadcasting School, iirc) which he ran for a few > years. He was on channel 4 for many years. Back in the 1950s, he did the early evening local news, and later returned on either channel 38 or 56. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Dec 31 01:01:20 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:01:20 -0500 Subject: Anything We Can Do for Classical Music Radio in Boston? In-Reply-To: <4B3C3B7E.30886.560155@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <000001ca8817$6da44d30$48ece790$@com> <4B3C3B7E.30886.560155@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <19260.15920.626930.572730@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I understand about parts of Boston, but I don't understand about > areas south. WCRB announces that it is also on a station on > Nantucket. Does the Nantucket station have that bad a signal? WNCK 89.5 is not heard much outside its home town/county/island. Note that it is first-adjacent to WGBH 89.7, so it can't ever have much of a signal. -GAWollman From rac@gabrielmass.com Thu Dec 31 01:37:00 2009 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:37:00 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? In-Reply-To: <2127CF2C057C4C298C988E5952BA3940@SatU205S5044> References: <20091230193536.E8C6EE2231D@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com><001201ca8988$94771470$c7151bac@whdh.com> <4fc429770912301336h54c5661duc2cd0e1e372b6737@mail.gmail.com> <2127CF2C057C4C298C988E5952BA3940@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4B3C468C.4040301@server4.gabrielmass.com> On 12/30/2009 10:12 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Naah... Either Kermit, Ms Piggy, or Big Bird. They don't have much connection to Boston, do they? --RC From dave@skywaves.net Thu Dec 31 01:47:39 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:47:39 -0500 Subject: Anything We Can Do for Classical Music Radio in Boston? In-Reply-To: <4B3C3B7E.30886.560155@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <000001ca8817$6da44d30$48ece790$@com> <4B3C3B7E.30886.560155@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Hi, Joe- >I understand about parts of Boston, but I don't understand about areas >south. WCRB's transmitter is northwest of Boston. Its signal to the south is limited by distance, terrain, and upper and lower first adjacent stations in Rhode Island. As a Class B station, it is theoretically protected from interference to its 54dbu (0.5mV/m) FCC f(50,50) contour. The 54dbu protected contour runs through Quincy and Norwood. The FCC contours are statistical models with well-known flaws. They are based on terrain only between 2 and 10 miles from the transmitter, so a cliff at 11 miles is invisible to the FCC model. The fully terrain-aware PTP model places the 54dbu signal level farther south, roughly to Randolph and Stoughton. Here in Worcester, I get a respectable signal from WCRB. That is not predicted by the FCC model, but it is right on the edge of the PTP model, and I have terrain to the south shielding me from the Rhode Island interferors. -d -------------------------------------------------- From: "A. Joseph Ross" Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:49 AM To: "Romy" Cc: Subject: Re: Anything We Can Do for Classical Music Radio in Boston? > > On 28 Dec 2009 at 18:42, Romy wrote: > > >> . Friday afternoon broadcasts of the Boston Symphony Orchestra are >> cancelled. . In Boston's Back Bay, Beacon Hill, and areas south of >> Boston, listeners are unable to receive a clear signal from >> "all-classical" WCRB. > > I understand about parts of Boston, but I don't understand about > areas south. WCRB announces that it is also on a station on > Nantucket. Does the Nantucket station have that bad a signal? > >> Much of the music on WCRB is programed by a Minneapolis syndicate. > > The question for me is how good the music is, not where it comes > from. I particularly like the Sunday Baroque programming, and while > it's obviously not local, it's good. The economics of classical > music programming are not favorable these days, unfortunately. > >> . Area listeners have lost fifty hours a week of quality classical >> music. . Do we really need more talk radio and duplicative NPR >> programming? .Are WGBH contributors pleased with the changes? .Are >> WCRB listeners pleased? .Will the administration at WGBH >> reconsider? > > I remember, during the 1970s recession, when WGBH faced protests > when, in order to save money, they dropped most of their excellent > talk programming in favor of classical music. I guess you can't win. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From dave@skywaves.net Thu Dec 31 01:14:19 2009 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:14:19 -0500 Subject: Anything We Can Do for Classical Music Radio in Boston? In-Reply-To: <19260.15920.626930.572730@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <000001ca8817$6da44d30$48ece790$@com><4B3C3B7E.30886.560155@joe.attorneyross.com> <19260.15920.626930.572730@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6AD5DD4AA43E41DB9A5EADEACC25E544@dave> So didn't WGBH flip WNCK to its new format? -d -------------------------------------------------- From: "Garrett Wollman" Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:01 AM To: "A. Joseph Ross" Cc: Subject: Re: Anything We Can Do for Classical Music Radio in Boston? > > < said: > >> I understand about parts of Boston, but I don't understand about >> areas south. WCRB announces that it is also on a station on >> Nantucket. Does the Nantucket station have that bad a signal? > > WNCK 89.5 is not heard much outside its home town/county/island. Note > that it is first-adjacent to WGBH 89.7, so it can't ever have much of > a signal. > > -GAWollman > From mamros@MIT.EDU Thu Dec 31 09:54:06 2009 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:54:06 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:37:00 EST." <4B3C468C.4040301@server4.gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <200912311454.nBVEs6eu016360@grumpy-fuzzball.mit.edu> Dan.Strassberg wrote: >> Naah... Either Kermit, Ms Piggy, or Big Bird. And Richard replied: >They don't have much connection to Boston, do they? Richard's right. WGBH may broadcast Sesame Street, but they don't produce it. Ditto for whichever station here aired The Muppet Show (I wasn't here at the time; which station was it?). And actually, each of those three Muppets has its own "birthplace". Kermit came out of Jim Henson's "Sam and Friends", a local show on Washington DC's WRC-TV in the late 50's. Henson moved to NYC in the early 60's, and at the end of that decade he was brought onboard as part of the team that started Sesame Street, which was (and still is) produced in New York and distributed by NET (later PBS). Big Bird made his debut there. Miss Piggy (who's actually never been to Sesame Street, to the best of my knowledge) was one of the characters created for The Muppet Show in the late 70's, co-produced by Henson and Britain's ITC at the ATV studios near London. (Oddly, despite her birthplace, she doesn't have the accent...) -shawn From cohasset@frontiernet.net Thu Dec 31 09:02:37 2009 From: cohasset@frontiernet.net (Cohasset / Hippisley) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:02:37 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? In-Reply-To: <4B3C3B7D.5854.55FCA2@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <20091228220955.ptvy4lf6k1s00ss4@webmail.myfairpoint.net>, <001b01ca88b8$78f40b20$a2984c0c@oemcomputer>, <4B3C3B7D.5854.55FCA2@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: > On 30 Dec 2009 at 12:32, The Seacoast wrote: > >> My Boston nominees would include Bud Ballou, John H. Garabedian, >> (Uncle) Dale, and Bruce Bradley, to name a few. One name I haven't seen mentioned is Jeff Kaye. Bud Hippisley From radiotest@plymouthcolony.net Thu Dec 31 09:39:57 2009 From: radiotest@plymouthcolony.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:39:57 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? In-Reply-To: <20091231031157.A8081C0BA@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20091230205707.07sizpkluioww0o4@webmail.myfairpoint.net> <20091231031157.A8081C0BA@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20091231092557.027d4c40@plymouthcolony.net> At 10:11 PM 12/30/2009, Donna Halper wrote: >>Victor Best > >He also bought a broadcasting school (Northeast Broadcasting School, >iirc) which he ran for a few years. I remember him. In 1962 Victor S. Best bought the Norm Prescott School of Broadcasting (founded 1952) and renamed it the Northeast Broadcasting School. In 1972-73, when I was a student there, it was located in a Back Bay brownstone on Marlborough St. He sold it in 1988, and its successor is the The New England Institute of Art. Best died 05-Apr-1998 at Sarasota at the age of 79. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZU / WZZI / WLNI / WVMP http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From mike_ed@msn.com Thu Dec 31 11:31:46 2009 From: mike_ed@msn.com (Mike G) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:31:46 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? In-Reply-To: <200912311454.nBVEs6eu016360@grumpy-fuzzball.mit.edu> References: Your message of "Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:37:00 EST." Message-ID: IIRC, it was Channel 5 that showed the Muppet Show on Tuesday nights. > To: rac@gabrielmass.com > Subject: Re: top TV personalities???? > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:54:06 -0500 > From: mamros@MIT.EDU > CC: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > > Dan.Strassberg wrote: > >> Naah... Either Kermit, Ms Piggy, or Big Bird. > > And Richard replied: > >They don't have much connection to Boston, do they? > > Richard's right. WGBH may broadcast Sesame Street, but they don't produce > it. Ditto for whichever station here aired The Muppet Show (I wasn't > here at the time; which station was it?). And actually, each of those > three Muppets has its own "birthplace". > > Kermit came out of Jim Henson's "Sam and Friends", a local show on > Washington DC's WRC-TV in the late 50's. Henson moved to NYC in the > early 60's, and at the end of that decade he was brought onboard as > part of the team that started Sesame Street, which was (and still is) > produced in New York and distributed by NET (later PBS). Big Bird > made his debut there. Miss Piggy (who's actually never been to > Sesame Street, to the best of my knowledge) was one of the characters > created for The Muppet Show in the late 70's, co-produced by Henson and > Britain's ITC at the ATV studios near London. (Oddly, despite her > birthplace, she doesn't have the accent...) > > -shawn From m_carney@yahoo.com Thu Dec 31 13:02:27 2009 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:02:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: top TV personalities???? In-Reply-To: <200912311454.nBVEs6eu016360@grumpy-fuzzball.mit.edu> References: <200912311454.nBVEs6eu016360@grumpy-fuzzball.mit.edu> Message-ID: <398744.85993.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Actually Big Bird and Oscar the Grouch do have some connection. Carroll Spinney, the man in the costumes, was also on Bozo doing all sorts of puppet characters. He left for Sesame Street just before Frank Avruch pulled the plug as Bozo (in a reaction to restrictions being put on children's programming) a year or 2 before WHDH finally lost the licence. From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Thu Dec 31 12:02:57 2009 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:02:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Victor Best In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <970728.44653.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> If recall, Victor Best eventually wound up on Boston Catholic's WIHS-TV Channel 38 (now WSBK-TV) in around 1965 doing "Victor Best and The News". He was basically doing copy with no film or whatever. He was reading the copy sitting at a desk with a placard in front of him that said "Victor Best". The background was wood paneling. It was obviously a one-camera shot. One time I remember he was on the air with his arm in a sling for a few days. (Must have hurt himself at the time.) I vaguely recall it was only a 10-15 minute newscast, right before "The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis". In 1964, Channel 38 was Boston's first UHF'er since the demise of WTAO-TV Channel 56 back in 1956. During the day the station was airing instructional programs to schools in the Archdiocese. After 4, the station went to a (what we would call today) general entertainment Independent. Eventually the station was sold to Storer Broadcasting in 1966. Proceeds for the sale of the station probably went to the cost of getting Boston Catholic's ITFS (Instructional Television Fixed Service) system up and running from the Pru. More than likely, Victor's short stay at Channel 38 was probably during the time he was "between jobs". It brought him a paycheck. But also it more than likely, it gave WIHS-TV a little more credibility for the people who actually had UHF TV's at the time. Apparently, people did notice it and watched it, just before the 6:00 Newscasts on Channels 4, 5 and 7. Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Cdsull502@aol.com wrote: > From: Cdsull502@aol.com > Subject: Victor Best > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:02 PM > Didn't Victor Best jump from WBZ-TV > to WNAC-TV and engender some? bad > feelings by announcing his departure to WNAC on his > (obviously) last? broadcast > on channel 4? I'm sure Donna can fill us in on that. > > Chris? Sullivan > CdSull502@aol.com > From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Dec 31 17:19:53 2009 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:19:53 -0500 Subject: British studios (was: Re: top TV personalities????) In-Reply-To: <200912311454.nBVEs6eu016360@grumpy-fuzzball.mit.edu> References: <4B3C468C.4040301@server4.gabrielmass.com> <200912311454.nBVEs6eu016360@grumpy-fuzzball.mit.edu> Message-ID: <19261.9097.235857.776885@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > made his debut there. Miss Piggy (who's actually never been to > Sesame Street, to the best of my knowledge) was one of the characters > created for The Muppet Show in the late 70's, co-produced by Henson and > Britain's ITC at the ATV studios near London. If Wikipedia is any guide, specifically at the Clarenden Road Studios, Borehamwood, which were then owned by British entrepreneur Lew Grade and his Associated Television, which had the ITV franchise for the Midlands. See and . Because ATV's main studios were located in Hertfordshire rather than in the Midlands, they were only able to keep the Midlands contract in the 1982 franchise round by agreeing to restructure, rename the company (to Central Independent Television) and sell the Elstree studios (which they did, to the BBC, in 1983). As Central, they continued to be a major program producer, responsible for (among others) the dramatization of Colin Dexter's "Inspector Morse" mysteries, seen here on "Mystery!". The British no longer use a system of competitive tender for awarding the "channel 3" television franchises; under the current law, they are now effectively permanent absent gross misconduct, similar to the way things are done by the FCC here. (All but three of the ITV franchises are now owned by one company, ITV plc.) -GAWollman From lglavin@mail.com Wed Dec 30 16:38:31 2009 From: lglavin@mail.com (lglavin@mail.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:38:31 -0500 Subject: Corrected URL Message-ID: <8CC57AF90EF7FDC-9D8-3CBD@web-mmc-d17.sysops.aol.com> The URL I submitted for Scott's story on Andy Martin didn't work BECAUSE I FORGOT TO CAPITALIZE THE FIRST APPEARANCE OF 'NERW". All right, let's try again: http://www.fybush.com/NERW/2008/081013/nerw.html So far, the Chicago papers seem to be playing down this story. The Sun-Times earlier ran a story about Martin-Trigona's ownership of radio stations in Connecticut. I thought WDLW was his sole attempt to become a media mogul around here. From jay_lavelle@earthlink.net Wed Dec 30 19:02:49 2009 From: jay_lavelle@earthlink.net (Jay Lavelle) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:02:49 -0500 Subject: top TV personalities???? In-Reply-To: <4fc429770912301336h54c5661duc2cd0e1e372b6737@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091230193536.E8C6EE2231D@relay2.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com> <001201ca8988$94771470$c7151bac@whdh.com> <4fc429770912301336h54c5661duc2cd0e1e372b6737@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B3BEA29.4000305@earthlink.net> Sharon King !!! Kevin Vahey wrote: > Henning started at channel 7, went to the old and new 5, then back to > 7 and finally 4. In the early 60's he was also on channel 2. > > The biggest TV personality ever spawned in Boston? > > Julia Child > > News anchors - Victor Best, Arch McDonald, Jim Jensen, Jack Hynes, > Natalie Jacobson, Tom Ellis, Chet Curtis, Jack Williams, Chuck > Scarboro, Jack Chase, Liz Walker to name a few > > Weather - Don Kent, Dick Albert, Harvey Leonard, Bob Copeland, Bruce > Sweigler (sic) > > Sports - The big 3 - Don Gillis, Bob Lobel and Mike Lynch. > > Bob Gamere should be in the HoF but > > Clark Booth the best reporter this town has ever seen for news and sports > > Personalties > > Frank Avruch (Bozo), Major Mudd, Louise Morgan, John Willis, Janet > Langhart, Tom Bergeron, Capt Bob Cottle, Sonya Hamlin, Bob Emery, Rex > Trailer, Robin Young, Uncle Gus in Manchester, Al Capp and others I > can't recall. > > Master of the live weather shot - Shelby Scott > > From dav2149@comcast.net Wed Dec 30 22:04:19 2009 From: dav2149@comcast.net (dav2149) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:04:19 -0500 Subject: top radio personalities in Boston? Message-ID: <015E2C36-50C6-48AC-A717-A184ED5C2B36@comcast.net> I loved "the voice" - Bill Marlowe. I also enjoyed in the 1980's Tony Cennamo's jazz program, late nights, on WBUR (was he ever on WCAS - what was the format?). What was the woman's name on 1330 WHET(?) in the early 70's(?) when it played big band music? I recall the weatherman on WKOX 1190, Roland Boucher("here's the weather today with Roland Boucher", as being very nice to listen to. WCOP had a female traffic reporter (in a helicopter), Stephanie "the eye in the sky" reporter from AM1150. TV personalities...I remember one summer in the 1960's channel 7 carried a weekly (Monday nights?) science fiction movie at 7:30(?) hosted by an alien creature, Feep.