From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu May 1 17:36:05 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:36:05 -0400 Subject: Local firm to buy 17 Maine radio stations Message-ID: <003C19DC04244A33894DC8EB2FDDD105@DanBillingsPC> A newly formed Maine radio company - Blueberry Broadcasting - announced it will buy 17 radio stations in the Augusta, Rockland and Bangor areas from national media giant Clear Channel Communications. The Kennebunkport-based radio company has signed a contract to buy all of Clear Channel's Maine radio stations, said Bruce Biette, of Blueberry Broadcasting. Biette said the purchase price is $11 million. http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/026376.html $11 million seems like a low price. I wonder what Clear Channel paid for the stations. I am betting a lot more. For the record -- Biette was GM of Saga's Portland stations when I was fired in 1993. Not that I hold a grudge. ;-) -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu May 1 17:53:20 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:53:20 -0400 Subject: Local firm to buy 17 Maine radio stations In-Reply-To: <001101c8abd5$3100f830$0401a8c0@Family> References: <003C19DC04244A33894DC8EB2FDDD105@DanBillingsPC> <001101c8abd5$3100f830$0401a8c0@Family> Message-ID: I didn't know that. I was a big fan of WIGY as a kid. What ever happened to Willie Mitchell? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Igo" To: "Dan Billings" ; Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:49 PM Subject: Re: Local firm to buy 17 Maine radio stations > Bruce was also with WIGY during your formative years in Bowdoinham. Was > he "Steve Rogers" on the air? I know he was the voice behind the > Romanow's Furniture spots. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Thu May 1 17:49:09 2008 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:49:09 -0400 Subject: Local firm to buy 17 Maine radio stations References: <003C19DC04244A33894DC8EB2FDDD105@DanBillingsPC> Message-ID: <001101c8abd5$3100f830$0401a8c0@Family> Dan wrote: >> A newly formed Maine radio company - Blueberry Broadcasting - announced >> it will buy 17 radio stations in the Augusta, Rockland and Bangor areas >> from national media giant Clear Channel Communications. The Kennebunkport-based radio company has signed a contract to buy all of Clear Channel's Maine radio stations, said Bruce Biette, of Blueberry Broadcasting. Biette said the purchase price is $11 million. http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/026376.html $11 million seems like a low price. I wonder what Clear Channel paid for the stations. I am betting a lot more. For the record -- Biette was GM of Saga's Portland stations when I was fired in 1993. Not that I hold a grudge. ;-) << Bruce was also with WIGY during your formative years in Bowdoinham. Was he "Steve Rogers" on the air? I know he was the voice behind the Romanow's Furniture spots. - -Chuck Igo From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Thu May 1 19:17:05 2008 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 19:17:05 -0400 Subject: Local firm to buy 17 Maine radio stations References: <003C19DC04244A33894DC8EB2FDDD105@DanBillingsPC> <001101c8abd5$3100f830$0401a8c0@Family> Message-ID: <000601c8abe1$7974d3f0$0401a8c0@Family> Dan B wrote: >I didn't know that. I was a big fan of WIGY as a kid. What ever happened >to Willie Mitchell? > Dan - not sure where's he's gone, but there was a post on the Big Apple Airchecks website as recently as 2006 that Willie was looking for a copy of the airchecks of him at WIGY in Matt's archives. --Chuck Igo From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu May 1 19:44:42 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 19:44:42 -0400 Subject: Local firm to buy 17 Maine radio stations References: <003C19DC04244A33894DC8EB2FDDD105@DanBillingsPC> Message-ID: <00fd01c8abe5$54d75dc0$6501a8c0@DougDrown> Anybody know who the other principals are? I'm delighted that this is a Maine-based company. I even like the name. :-) -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Billings" To: Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:36 PM Subject: Local firm to buy 17 Maine radio stations >A newly formed Maine radio company - Blueberry Broadcasting - announced it >will buy 17 radio stations in the Augusta, Rockland and Bangor areas from >national media giant Clear Channel Communications. > > The Kennebunkport-based radio company has signed a contract to buy all of > Clear Channel's Maine radio stations, said Bruce Biette, of Blueberry > Broadcasting. > > Biette said the purchase price is $11 million. > > > http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/026376.html > > $11 million seems like a low price. I wonder what Clear Channel paid for > the stations. I am betting a lot more. > > For the record -- Biette was GM of Saga's Portland stations when I was > fired in 1993. Not that I hold a grudge. ;-) > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > > From atolz@comcast.net Fri May 2 04:25:50 2008 From: atolz@comcast.net (Alan Tolz) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 04:25:50 -0400 Subject: Local firm to buy 17 Maine radio stations References: <003C19DC04244A33894DC8EB2FDDD105@DanBillingsPC> <00fd01c8abe5$54d75dc0$6501a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <000d01c8ac2e$22116ea0$6d01a8c0@mediacenter> Louis Vitali is the CEO. He was a principal in Mariner Broadcasting before this. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: "Dan Billings" ; Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:44 PM Subject: Re: Local firm to buy 17 Maine radio stations > Anybody know who the other principals are? > I'm delighted that this is a Maine-based company. I even like the name. > :-) > > -Doug > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Billings" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:36 PM > Subject: Local firm to buy 17 Maine radio stations > > >>A newly formed Maine radio company - Blueberry Broadcasting - announced it >>will buy 17 radio stations in the Augusta, Rockland and Bangor areas from >>national media giant Clear Channel Communications. >> >> The Kennebunkport-based radio company has signed a contract to buy all of >> Clear Channel's Maine radio stations, said Bruce Biette, of Blueberry >> Broadcasting. >> >> Biette said the purchase price is $11 million. >> >> >> http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/026376.html >> >> $11 million seems like a low price. I wonder what Clear Channel paid for >> the stations. I am betting a lot more. >> >> For the record -- Biette was GM of Saga's Portland stations when I was >> fired in 1993. Not that I hold a grudge. ;-) >> >> -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine >> >> >> > > From dick@dicksummer.com Sun May 4 22:47:50 2008 From: dick@dicksummer.com (Dick Summer) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 22:47:50 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <000601c8ae5a$689f5020$6501a8c0@barbarayns0wzj> I spent a lot of years on the air in Boston. Great memories. Just found out about this web site. Fascinating. Will be reading it regularly. Anybody who wants to get in touch, my email is Dick@DickSummer.com The website is www.dicksummer.com would love to hear from you. Dick Summer From songbook2@comcast.net Thu May 8 11:33:52 2008 From: songbook2@comcast.net (Russ Butler) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 08:33:52 -0700 Subject: Boston Pirate fined Message-ID: <48231D60.3020005@comcast.net> < FCC Issues $27K In Piracy Fines WASHINGTON -- May 8, 2008: The FCC has affirmed a $17,000 fine to the operator of a pirate radio station in Boston and a $10,000 fine to a New York man for "providing services and facilities" incidental to an unlicensed radio transmission. From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu May 8 12:00:33 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:00:33 -0500 Subject: Boston Pirate fined Message-ID: <20080508160033.7BD0B83BE3@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Not sure if the feds will be able to collect the money (the New York man mentioned was from a Brooklyn pirate) from the "owner" of Touch 106.1, or if jail time is in the future for Charles Clemons. Radio-ink mentioned he did not reply to the letter sent him in Feb. and has not paid the fine. The station's myspace site said that Clemons used to be music dir. for WILD. It also says they have the call letters "LP-WTCH". There is no such LPFM licensed to Boston, esp. at that frequency. The Touch FM website and myspace site make them look legit. From attychase@comcast.net Thu May 8 12:17:10 2008 From: attychase@comcast.net (Robert S Chase) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 12:17:10 -0400 Subject: Boston Pirate fined References: Message-ID: <002501c8b126$f9607160$6400a8c0@HomeOffice> Could you post the link to the FCC page or other page setting this forth? Thanks > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 08:33:52 -0700 > From: Russ Butler > Subject: Boston Pirate fined > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org > Message-ID: <48231D60.3020005@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > < > > FCC Issues $27K In Piracy Fines > WASHINGTON -- May 8, 2008: The FCC has affirmed a $17,000 fine to the > operator of a pirate radio station in Boston and a $10,000 fine to a New > York man for "providing services and facilities" incidental to an > unlicensed radio transmission. From brimatt1@aol.com Thu May 8 12:22:26 2008 From: brimatt1@aol.com (brimatt1@aol.com) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 12:22:26 -0400 Subject: Boston Pirate fined In-Reply-To: <002501c8b126$f9607160$6400a8c0@HomeOffice> References: <002501c8b126$f9607160$6400a8c0@HomeOffice> Message-ID: <8CA7F3ED653A642-774-1333@webmail-stg-d05.sysops.aol.com> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/2008/DA-08-1073A1.html -----Original Message----- From: Robert S Chase To: boston-radio-interest@tsornin.bostonradio.org Sent: Thu, 8 May 2008 12:17 pm Subject: Boston Pirate fined Could you post the link to the FCC page or other page setting this forth? Thanks? ? > Message: 2? > Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 08:33:52 -0700? > From: Russ Butler ? > Subject: Boston Pirate fined? > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.bostonradio.org? > Message-ID: <48231D60.3020005@comcast.net>? > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed? >? > <? >? > FCC Issues $27K In Piracy Fines? > WASHINGTON -- May 8, 2008: The FCC has affirmed a $17,000 fine to the? > operator of a pirate radio station in Boston and a $10,000 fine to a New? > York man for "providing services and facilities" incidental to an? > unlicensed radio transmission.? ? From kvahey@comcast.net Thu May 8 11:41:55 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:41:55 -0600 Subject: WLOB suspends 2 talk show hosts Message-ID: <4fc429770805080841y1caa473bpabb071d87f6d06c7@mail.gmail.com> There has to be more to this story than the paper is reporting http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=186353&ac=PHnws From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Thu May 8 16:46:17 2008 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 16:46:17 -0400 Subject: WLOB suspends 2 talk show hosts References: <4fc429770805080841y1caa473bpabb071d87f6d06c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001301c8b14c$cd57e6e0$0401a8c0@Family> Kevin Vahey wrote: > There has to be more to this story than the paper is reporting > > http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=186353&ac=PHnws Two weekend hosts at WLOB in Portland got into a very loud and heated exchange on the air during what is normally considered a cross-over/hand-off. "hey, next guy? What's on the show today?" "well, now guy - today we're gonna make the vu meter needles move and take some phone calls" "Great! That's coming right up!" What was in the paper was tame compared to what Mr.Castaldi attested to on camera to WGME-TV the other day. the online story is gone as they recycle the links (looks like news 13's online coverage has 9 or 10 links they recycle) calling someone of italian heritage "f***ing G*****" is bad enough, doing so in the workplace with an open mic - that's a whole 'nother ball of wax. the allegations of the open-mic tirade were backed-up with numerous (according to station management) calls of complaint. now - as to why Mr.Cataldi is out, the tv and print coverage of the story has him admitting to having a change-of-shift "handoff" turn into something ugly - heated discussions happen (apparently their crossover thing turned political) - is puzzling only in that one must wonder what his offense was. - -Chuck Igo From markwa1ion@aol.com Fri May 9 12:44:15 2008 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 12:44:15 -0400 Subject: Dick Summer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CA800B0CB115BA-1418-B15@FWM-D08.sysops.aol.com> Dick, glad to see you on the list. In my high school years in Arlington, MA (mid-'60s) I was a regular listener to your WBZ show and got a kick out of "sandwiches-versus-shrewsburies", Theophilus Q. Waterhouse, elephant jokes / grape jokes, funny collages with song clips (a la Dickie Goodman), live shows from Harvard dorms, and many of the other "shticks". The way you got into certain songs very seriously contrasted with all the humor. That made things even more interesting. In '63 you and Jefferson Kaye fed off each other as folk music hit its peak with better-known artists like Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, Judy Collins, and Peter, Paul, & Mary and popular (but less "household name") artists such as Richard & Mimi Farina, Dave Van Ronk, Tom Rush, and so forth. When a woman was killed in the courtyard at the Kew Gardens apartments in NYC as many watched and did nothing, I recall the launch of the "NAG" (Nightlighters Against Gutlessness) campaign. I remember you reading the "Highwayman" poem with gusto. High culture on top 40 AM radio, who'd have "thunk" it? Much different from what WMEX was up to (though they were fun in their way too). We got culture as well with Carl DeSuze and his rambling discourses on world travel, fine wines, and gardening. WBZ was quite the package back then. When the Beatles hit big at the tail end of '63 and into early '64, you and Bruce Bradley and the rest of the crew did much not only to present Beatles music and interviews but also to research much of the other music from Britain. Were it not for you guys I'm not sure that the Swingin' Blue Jeans "Hippy Hippy Shake" and Manfred Mann's "5-4-3-2-1" would have made as big a splash. I think at one point around Feb. 1964, British songs had 8 of the Top 10 slots on 'BZ with "Dawn Go Away" by the Four Seasons and "Suspicion" by Terry Stafford as the only American hold-outs. Folk music made a bit of a rebound in '65 with Simon & Garfunkel, the Byrds, and two huge albums from Bob Dylan. The Nightlight show did not miss a beat covering it all. I occasionally caught your shows on other stations since then, including WCAP now. Thanks for many years of great listening. You do belong in a DJ's hall of fame along with names like Arnie Ginsberg and Murray-the-K. Mark Connelly - Billerica, MA << I spent a lot of years on the air in Boston. Great memories. Just found out about this web site. Fascinating. Will be reading it regularly. Anybody who wants to get in touch, my email is Dick@DickSummer.com The website is www.dicksummer.com would love to hear from you. Dick Summer >> From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Mon May 12 19:40:11 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 19:40:11 -0400 Subject: Sunday Nights on WBZ, WBZA in 1929 Message-ID: <4828D55B.1040608@ttlc.net> Any idea what show this might have been? http://library.duke.edu/digitalcollections/adaccess.R0207/pg.1/ This is from a fascinating collection of print advertising from the 20's thru the 50's. For those who enjoy nostalgia (think rosin smoke from a soldering iron), it covers Radio & Television, but leans heavily on the actual Radios, TV's & Tubes. Occasional ad for companies like Gates, Collins, Western-Electric as well as many long-gone companies like Lafayette Radio, RadioTron tubes & Pentron tape recorders. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon May 12 22:38:25 2008 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 22:38:25 -0400 Subject: Sunday Nights on WBZ, WBZA in 1929 In-Reply-To: <4828D55B.1040608@ttlc.net> References: <4828D55B.1040608@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <20080513023733.44A3E1B41C9@relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 07:40 PM 5/12/2008, Roger Kirk wrote: >Any idea what show this might have been? > >http://library.duke.edu/digitalcollections/adaccess.R0207/pg.1/ Probably the Collier's Radio Hour. Collier's was an arts, literature and current events magazine, sort of like Saturday Evening Post or Life-- and it sponsored a show which had some talks, musical guests, plays, and undoubtedly some of the magazine's authors discussing whatever. It was supposed to be more thought-provoking that a typical variety show. From wollman@bimajority.org Mon May 12 23:43:39 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 23:43:39 -0400 Subject: Sunday Nights on WBZ, WBZA in 1929 In-Reply-To: <20080513023733.44A3E1B41C9@relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <4828D55B.1040608@ttlc.net> <20080513023733.44A3E1B41C9@relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <18473.3691.546451.242364@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Probably the Collier's Radio Hour. Collier's was an arts, literature > and current events magazine, sort of like Saturday Evening Post or > Life-- Speaking of which.... There aren't many of the classic American literary magazines left any more. It used to be that every publisher had one (to promote its authors); Ticknor and Fields (later Houghton Mifflin) had /The Atlantic/, Harper & Brothers had /Harper's/, The Century Company had /The Century Magazine/, S.S. McClure had /McClure's/, Scribner had /Scribner's Magazine/, and so on. (Only the first two survived the Great Depression, and McClure's didn't even last that long.) -GAWollman From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue May 13 00:01:35 2008 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 00:01:35 -0400 Subject: Sunday Nights on WBZ, WBZA in 1929 In-Reply-To: <18473.3691.546451.242364@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <4828D55B.1040608@ttlc.net> <20080513023733.44A3E1B41C9@relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <18473.3691.546451.242364@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <20080513040043.7CC22750C6F@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 11:43 PM 5/12/2008, Garrett Wollman wrote: > There aren't many of the classic American >literary magazines left any more. It used to be that every publisher >had one (to promote its authors); Today, the closest we get is New Yorker, maybe Esquire, maybe New Republic or Harpers. But all of those literary magazines also promoted or sponsored radio shows back then... One of the magazines that did really well using the show as a vehicle for keeping the name of their magazine in front of everyone was Time, which their widely praised "March of Time" weekly radio news magazine. Literary Digest also sponsored a weekly show... and for a while, so did Radio Digest, a fan magazine about the stars and shows in broadcasting... The Depression killed off Literary Digest, and Radio Digest too... but of course, Time survived. From scott@fybush.com Tue May 13 07:36:16 2008 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 07:36:16 -0400 Subject: Pictures of the new baby Message-ID: <48297D30.1080507@fybush.com> In case anyone's curious... www.fybush.com/newbaby.html Hey, does this one qualify in the "ultralight" category? :-) s From scott@fybush.com Tue May 13 07:28:58 2008 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 07:28:58 -0400 Subject: Baby Message-ID: <48297B7A.7070807@fybush.com> Totally off-topic, but gotta brag anyway...I'm a daddy again. Unnamed Baby Boy Fybush (catchy, huh?) wasn't supposed to be here for another month, but he had ideas of his own, and he arrived at 5:32 AM EDT, 5 lbs. 8 oz., 18.5", etc. Anyone willing to grab me a copy of today's Globe and Herald so the kid has the Boston papers from his birthday? (For that matter, anyone on the list in NYC able to grab the city editions of the NYT, Post, News, etc.?) Everyone's doing well. Dad's a little pooped. Pictures will be up shortly at www.fybush.com/newbaby.html s From sid@wrko.com Tue May 13 08:15:57 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:15:57 -0400 Subject: Pictures of the new baby In-Reply-To: <48297D30.1080507@fybush.com> References: <48297D30.1080507@fybush.com> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE883E6446F@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>In case anyone's curious... www.fybush.com/newbaby.html Hey, does this one qualify in the "ultralight" category? :-)<< Congrats, Scott! (and get some sleep while you still can!) Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue May 13 11:22:08 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:22:08 -0400 Subject: Sunday Nights on WBZ, WBZA in 1929 References: <4828D55B.1040608@ttlc.net><20080513023733.44A3E1B41C9@relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com><18473.3691.546451.242364@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20080513040043.7CC22750C6F@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <39C2989DAAE343EA8748862BDD31AC93@SatU205S5044> Was Clifton Fadiman's (I think that was his name) erudite and very famous (in its day) "Information Please" radio program associated with any magazine? I know that the program later begat the annual Information Please Almanac, which may still be published and was a worthy competitor of Scripps-Howard's World Alamanc. I'm pretty sure, though, that the radio program begat the almanac, not the other way 'round. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Garrett Wollman" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 12:01 AM Subject: Re: Sunday Nights on WBZ, WBZA in 1929 > At 11:43 PM 5/12/2008, Garrett Wollman wrote: > >> There aren't many of the classic American >>literary magazines left any more. It used to be that every >>publisher >>had one (to promote its authors); > > Today, the closest we get is New Yorker, maybe Esquire, maybe New > Republic or Harpers. But all of those literary magazines also > promoted or sponsored radio shows back then... One of the magazines > that did really well using the show as a vehicle for keeping the > name of their magazine in front of everyone was Time, which their > widely praised "March of Time" weekly radio news magazine. Literary > Digest also sponsored a weekly show... and for a while, so did Radio > Digest, a fan magazine about the stars and shows in broadcasting... > The Depression killed off Literary Digest, and Radio Digest too... > but of course, Time survived. From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed May 14 01:12:30 2008 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 01:12:30 -0400 Subject: two things (one bit of news, one request for assistance) Message-ID: <20080514051140.D61631B40E4@relay7.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Thing one: if you are fans of the rock group RUSH, their original drummer John Rutsey just died of a heart attack. He was only 55. When the band first came to the US in 1974, he was still with them, but even then he had terrible health problems (severe diabetes, for one, back at a time when it was much harder to take care of it than it is today) and had to drop out of the band as a result. I felt sorry to hear he was gone-- I of course keep in touch with the members of Rush, and I will always remember that era when I discovered the band-- back when a music director like me could take a chance on a new band and actually break some new music... Thing two: A very nice GM from a Spanish station in Florida called me earlier today-- he didn't know me, but saw in the R&R Directory that my company markets music software-- which it still does. But he asked me about something I couldn't help him with: MusicMaster. I haven't worked with it in ages. Is there anyone on list who could walk him through a few things-- yes he speaks good English. If you know MusicMaster and could answer a couple of his questions, contact me off-list and I'll give you his contact information. Thanks. From lglavin@mail.com Thu May 15 16:20:15 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:20:15 -0500 Subject: Touch FM Lives Message-ID: <20080515202015.9DF74BE4078@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> You think the Hillary For President campaign is persistent, how about Touch FM 106.1 in Dawchestah? The Feds have fined it, threatened it with seizures, but still it goes on, occasionally to "journalistic" praise. For example: http://www.dotnews.com/radiorebels.html -- See Exclusive Video: 10th Annual Young Hollywood Awards http://www.hollywoodlife.net/younghollywoodawards2008/ From lglavin@mail.com Fri May 16 16:32:23 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 15:32:23 -0500 Subject: WCRB Is 60, Not 79 Message-ID: <20080516203223.39DB61CE7C0@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> The Theater and Arts section of today's (05/16) Boston Globe contains a story about an artistic organization performing at the Cathedral Church of Saint Paul, which is NOT located in Saint Paul, MN, but right here in Boston. Anyway, in paragraph four of the story, mention is made of the Church's broadcasting history...but it seems to have gotten the facts wrong about the radio station broadcasting its services: http://www.boston.com/ae/theater_arts/articles/2008/05/16/an_inspired_setting_for_king_john/ I do believe WCRB is celebrating its SIXTIETH birthday, not 79th. -- See Exclusive Video: 10th Annual Young Hollywood Awards http://www.hollywoodlife.net/younghollywoodawards2008/ From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat May 17 12:05:53 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 12:05:53 -0400 Subject: California Dreamin' broke in Boston on WMEX..... Message-ID: <003701c8b837$e54b2b80$8201a8c0@MainXPPro> Michelle Phillips of the Mama's and Papa's at MAgic's exceptional women awards remembers the days when a station could make a song a hit. http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/articles/2008/05/17/brady_remains_driven_to_take_care_of_all_his_best_buddies/?page=2 Exceptional memory "California Dreamin'," the hit that catapulted The Mamas and The Papas, got a big boost from a Boston station, founding member Michelle Phillips told the crowd at yesterday's Exceptional Women Awards. "It got a lot of play on WMEX," said Phillips at the Westin Copley Place. "Boston is our lucky city." One of seven women honored by Magic 106.7, Phillips even sang along as the group Cnote performed an a cappella version of the hit. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon May 19 01:32:23 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 01:32:23 -0400 Subject: WRKO vs. WMEX Message-ID: <049a01c8b971$bb5f5810$8201a8c0@MainXPPro> Many people have spoken about the WMEX vs. WRKO battle...and the year that WMEX actually beat WRKO in the ratings. I discovered this old article from Rolling Stone magazine reproduced (with permission) on the big68.org website, that is probably a better source of information than the hearsay, opinions and faulty memories that are counced around. It was all over by January 20, 1972 when this article was published. I was told once by a TV consultant...it's not enough just to be good...but you have to be at the same time the other guy drops the ball. It appears while WMEX was doing some great radio....WRKO had lost their way and had dropped the ball. http://big68.org/_clips/c720120.htm Boston Tests New Music & Flunks Out BOSTON - The Boston radio war is over. It was only a five-month battle, but it was a great show while it lasted. The war was started by John H. Garabedian. the program director of WMEX, a bottom-of-the-heap Top 40 station. With the tactical abandon of an underdog. John H. innovated right and left, doubled the station's ratings, and nearly outflanked the forces of WRKO. But WRKO, firmly entrenched as Boston's No. 1 Top 40 station, adopted some of John H.'s changes, geared up for a major offensive, and fought to stay on top. Almost everyone enjoyed the radio war. The public liked it because the two stations started playing better music and became sensitive to popular tastes. Even the general manager of WRKO liked the radio war because "the competition kept my boys from getting stale." The radio war promised to go on forever, but a fluke of fate cut it off in its prime. Maxwell Richmond, the 57-year-old owner and manager of WMEX, died suddenly. A new manager arrived, swept away must of John H.'s changes, and precipitously fired John H. Now WMEX is somewhere on its way back to the cellar, but John H's innovations live on in an ironic fashion; they. are being carried on by WRKO. Not only has WRKO become a better station thanks to the radio war; it has even passed on the improvements to the 11-station Drake chain, of which it is a member. Furthermore, just as things were beginning to look stalemated in Boston radio, a new challenge has appeared on the horizon in the form of FM rock stations. On the strength of spectacular gains made by FM stations in recent surveys, some observers are confidently predicting that Top 40 AM will make its Last Stand well before the end of the decade. Radio trends have always showed up early in Boston, and it has always been a pretty decent town to be trapped in with a transistor. From 1958 to 1967, when WMEX was the No. 1 pop station, you could listen to Arnie "Woo Woo" Ginsburg, one of the legends of Pre-Sincere radio. "And Adventure Car Hop is serving the Ginsburger on a record which you get to keep for your very own if you say 'Woo Woo Ginsburg" with your order . . ." Arnie would barrel through the jive copy in an endearingly adenoidal voice and then play yet another great record. For nine years, no one could touch him in the ratings. When Arnie left WMEX, he was succeeded by Dick Summer, a person so ostentatiously sensitive that Rod McKuen would have looked callous beside him. "Have you felt an orange today?" Dick would wonder out loud on his show, which was called "The Loving Touch." As WMEX's program, director, Dick instituted a format called the "Human Thing," which consisted mainly of playing album cuts instead of singles. A good idea, but Dick played the wrong album cuts. The Human Thing bombed miserably and Summer left WMEX in 1970. Meanwhile, back in 1967, WRKO had changed management and joined the Drake chain. A young program director named Mel Phillips came in and cleaned up the sound of the station according to Drake ideals-a minimum of ads, a minimum of DJ talk, a minimum of anything irritating (including wah-wah guitar) and a maximum of sales-certified singles played in rapid succession. The Drake sound proved to be the most successful sound of the late Sixties, and nowhere more so than in Boston. Within three months, WRKO had walked over WMEX and all other Top 40 competition, had grabbed a mammoth 25 percent of the radio audience, and had settled in for a four-year term as the leader in the field. The next important phase of Boston pop radio history opened about a year ago with the arrival of John H. Garabedian as a WMEX disk jockey. John H. is 30, stands more than six feet tall, looks like a cross between Elvis Presley and Boris Karloff, and speaks in a pleasing basso. After 13 years in radio, which should have left him jaded about ten years ago, John's deep-socketed eyes still light up with aficion when he talks about radio, which is all he talks about. "Are you really interested in this?" he asks in surprised tones, and then plunges on to tell you how good radio could be. This same infectious enthusiasm came across on John's 3-to-7 PM radio show. While his fellow DJs at WMEX seldom rose above the ninth or tenth position in the ratings, John H. was almost invariably in the No. Two spot, or tied for No. One. John slowly began to. rationalize his own success into a system, and after every show he would hound Mac Richmond, the station manager, with his theories. Finally Mac decided to let John H. try his hand as program director. Early last summer, not long after his promotion, I dropped in on John H. in I the tiny, glassed-in studio where he could always be found. As usual he looked as if he had slept at the station; he had forgotten to shave. But his jaunty announcer's voice was strong as ever. "Hiya," he said, "You've got to listen to this!" And he slipped a cartridge into the cart machine. He jumped up and thrust out his arms as the speakers exploded with the theme from Thus Spake Zarathustra, and he made a long, solemn face as he parodied his own taped voice saying: "Changes! And you are listening to The New Music!" "The New Music!" John H. ex?claimed. "We got that phrase from a 250-watt station in Buffalo, New York. It's just what we need to change our image!" The hour ID that John had played sounded to me like just another in-one-ear-out-the-other radio hype, but I didn't realize that for John H. the New Music was not a gimmick but a mission. "AM radio," he said earnestly, "substitutes the taste of the program directors of America for the tastes of the people. I'll get more listeners and better ratings if what I do is tuned into what people want. Nobody's got the balls to add new records. Everyone plays the 45s listed in the trades. But singles sales reflect only the tastes of singles buyers and I don't know of anybody over the age of 14 who buys a 45 record. "People want to hear albums, the quality music. But you can't just play anything off the Top Ten albums. You have to pick the right cut. And I may think one cut is great, but you may think it stinks, so we have to get a consensus somehow. And that's where the request lines come in. At John's urging, WMEX installed round-the-clock phone lines and hired three operators, who took 6000 requests a week. At a weekly programming meeting the chief operator-a young, husky- voiced albino lady-would try to tell John what kind of person tended to call up for each song. "We draw up our play list 80 percent according to requests," said John H. "Our list isn't a sales list. it's a popularity list; we play what people want to hear and we make hits. Most Stations wait for a reaction to come in from the record stores, but who can wait for all that crap? You wait for three weeks to see if a record's going to happen or not, and if it doesn't happen you've been playing a bomb for far too long." Because the request lines gave John H. instant feedback, he could play hunches and then quickly pull a single off the air if it turned out to be a stiff. "One of the things we want to do," says John H., "is to establish that we're first with the hits and we make the hits." Early in the summer, John H. was weekending in New Hampshire when he heard a Lee Michaels B side, "You Know What I Mean," on a Montreal FM station. Getting into his Ford van he drove straight to the station and programmed the song. Within a week it became No. Ten in requests; within a month it was a national hit. After that, John was hooked. He needed to see the request lines go berserk the same way a one-armed-bandit addict needs to see the three little lemons plop into place. When John got the Rod Stewart album, he broke a song called "Maggie May" that no one else was playing. It became number one in a week and a Mercury executive flew in from Chicago. "He said they wanted to make 'Losing You' the single but I told him, 'No! No! Maggie May! Maggie May!'" John recalled, screaming and waving his hands. So Mercury went with "Maggie May." That was the first time John H. forced a record company to release a particular album cut as a single. In the course of the summer, the request lines lit up for three more album cuts that John H. introduced to AM radio: the McCartneys' "Uncle Albert," J. Geil's "Looking for a Love," and Jonathan Edward's "Sunshine." All three became hit singles. Suddenly, for the first time in years, WMEX and WRKO were airing very different playlists. Suddenly, AM radio showed signs of life and people ceased to take the music for granted-there was a real choice on the dial. WRKO didn't respond immediately to John H.'s New Music. WRKO had removed its request lines at the beginning of the summer and besides, the station had always determined its playlist 80 percent by record store reports. John H. liked to say that Mel Phillips was nothing more than a traffic cop executing Bill Drake's orders. While this was not true, the fact remained that WRKO could not play fast and loose with its playlist, as John H. could. During the summer, John H. also showed a partiality to tabloid-like 45s. These included "Je T'Aime" (a pair of orchestrated orgasms) and "What the World Needs Now is Love" (a Grand Guignol sound collage of the three assassinations). Both songs became huge local hits after John played them, but WRKO refused to touch them. Instead, WRKO had the grace to play Marvin Gaye's "Inner City" and Aretha's "Rock Steady." John H. religiously avoided both songs because Boston is notoriously hostile to R&B. But, questions of quality aside, what people responded to was the fact that these two stations were vying for popular favor by offering different playlists. John H. made many minor changes in WMEX's format and its advertising, but what mattered was the New Music. The first time that John realized the potency of the New Music was when Rod Stewart broke into "Maggie May" at a concert on 'Boston Common. "The whole place jumped up, just blew up," John H. re?calls. "I almost fainted when I saw that. 'Cause they knew the song, and they didn't know it from WBCN [a progressive FM station], they didn't know it from WRKO, they knew it from WMEX. We had no measure before that. That was the first measure of how much we were reaching people." Still, nobody knew quite how seriously to take John H. until the results of the July-August American. Research Bureau survey sanctioned his success. The ARB survey, which is based on three-day diaries kept by thousands of pollees, is the most detailed and respected in the business. Earlier ARB surveys had revealed that WRKO had an average of 70,000 listeners per quarter hour while WMEX had 30,000. Now, WRKO had only 64.000 while WMEX had shot up to 51,000. "For all intents and purposes, we tied in total audience in the summer ARB," says John. "And we beat them in teens. And that's incredible, because WRKO has a signal that covers four times the area of the WMEX signal." (Both stations have 50,000-watt transmitters, but WMEX has to switch to 5000 watts at night; it is also located at the right side of the dial, where the frequencies are less powerful). "That means that in some sections we were getting 90 percent of the audience and in other areas they weren't even getting any competition from us." According to Perry Ury, the dapper, mustachioed, affable general manager of WRKO, John H. exaggerated WMEX's handicap. "Let's say with our signal we got them maybe two to one," he says, "and that's being very generous. John is a smart radio man but don't get talked into thinking he's a white knight. OK, in the summer ARB, they equaled our teens. They matched us teen for teen and came out a hundred ahead of us. But we beat them two and a half to one in adults. We beat them in women and children. But the teens was the whole furor-as the story got told by John H. to his friends in the music business it got better and better and better each time." The week the ARB came out, WRKO made some sudden changes. They started playing four or five of the hits John H. had broken. They re-installed their request lines. Were they forced to start playing more album cuts? "We took one look at what was happening and you betcha we were forced on it," says Ury. "But it would have had to happen soon anyway. Singles are going like that in Boston. In some parts of the country singles are still gangbusters but in this city they're dead, don't ask me why. John got us with wider, broader album presentation and his selection of cuts. John would love to think that the ARB hook came out and everyone ran though these halls screaming and waving the book. Didn't happen. Went into Mel Phillips, our program director and said, 'Hey-there's a little softness here in our late teens and young males.' He said, 'You're right, Garabedian's on the right track.' That was it." Mel Phillips, who is as quiet and methodical as John H. is flamboyant, says that he would have "made changes even if there were no WMEX." But it seems more than coincidental that the changes should follow so closely on the heels of the ARB results. In fact, WRKO's system is a modification of John H.'s-a streamlined one. WRKO had been playing a few Top Ten album cuts before, but now it started breaking cuts like "Family Affair" and "American Pie," forcing WMEX to play them. Mel began to take chances on Bonnie Raitt and Boz Scaggs cuts that the station would never have played a few months before. The station currently has 65 songs on the playlist, and 30 are album cuts; an extraordinary figure for an AM station. In November, Bill Drake himself made his first appearance in two years to inspect the situation; within a few weeks, other members of the Drake chain were playing lots of album cuts. The beginning of the end of the radio war came with the death of Mac Richmond, late in November. Mac, who owned both WMEX and WPGC in Washington, was the soul of enlightened management, the man who gave John H. the green light for all the changes. right ,down to the waterbed contest John dreamed up. "Mac was getting into it." says John U. "He was the hippest guy you ever saw-a Sagittarius, so he was a nut, you know. He was old enough to be my father, hut as we got to know each other, he became more like a brother." Mac was replaced by Bob Howard, who bad served for years as the manager of WPGC. Except for his red- white-and-blue herringbone tweed jacket, his wine-red pants, his white vinyl belt and his muttonchop sideburns, Bob Howard looks exactly like Charles Laughton as Captain Bligh. Like the Captain of the Bounty, Howard runs a tight ship. He does not allow food or beverages- including coffee, the lifeblood of disk jockeys-on the station premises. Howard threatened to fire one DJ whom he caught eating a cookie in a studio. Within a couple of weeks, he started issuing memos about programming as well as food. First the news was to be spiced up so that "Communists," for instance, would read "Commie Reds." Next, all the request lines were to be removed. Finally, all disk jockeys were to say 'WMEX, No. One" before every record. John H. was naturally bowled over by these announcements. "He didn't even know what the phone lines were for," John H. said later. "And the No. One thing would have killed everything we'd built up!" John H. tried to protest the changes, but Howard sent him a memo saying that there would be no discussion and cut his pay by $50. "Do not show this to anyone or you will regret it," the memo concluded. When John H. refused to institute the "WMEX, No. One" policy, Howard called him at seven in the morning and fired him. "I considered Mr. Garabedian in?subordinate," Howard says leaning forward in a swivel chair and weighing his words like a Supreme Court justice. "We differed on many policies and concepts." On ratings, for instance. "Frankly," says Howard, "1 never did believe in ratings. They're certainly nothing to run your station by. And to be candid, I've never heard WRKO. I don't even know where they are on the dial. Nor do I intend to listen to them. I'm not interested in so- called counter-programming" As for request lines, Howard says that he has no faith in them because in Washington he found "that the same people called up again and again." (John H. claims that by keeping chronological records of calls and watching out for clusters, where one fan and all his friends and relatives phone in for the same song, he avoided just such "padding" of the charts). But how could Howard let his announcers say "WMEX, No. One" when the station was still clearly behind WRKO and a couple of talk stations in the ratings? "This has no reference to the ratings," says Howard with some impatience. "We feel that WMEX tries to serve the public interest, convenience and necessity through the No. One presentation of news, public affairs, public ser?vice, information, discussion and enter?tainment. We feel we're No. One in compassion in dealing with public affairs organizations and charitable groups. And that's why we say WMEX is No. One." That Howard has never listened to the competition, and therefore has no way of measuring how much compassion they have, does not seem to bother him. Nor does the fact that several stations have notified the Federal Trade Commission. "Good, fine!" he says. "We've gone through this thing in Washington and you just check and see if we're still saying 'WPGC, No. One' or not." Thus, with a few brief memos, has Howard handed victory to the other side and turned the situation topsy-turvey. WRKO, once the backward station, has taken John H.'s changes, improved them with its own professionalism, and come out way ahead. WMEX has reverted to a chaotic sounding format and an uninspired playlist while Howard tries to condition the city into thinking his station is No. One, Meanwhile, FM rock has been sneaking up on both stations. The latest ARB has provided the astounding statistic that 29 percent of the Boston audience listens constantly to FM. A full 70 percent of 18-to-24 year old males listen to FM from seven to 12 every night. With these nighttime teens, WBCN is the No. One station, followed by WROR, an automated, Drake-programmed FM rock station. WMEX and WRKO come in a poor fourth and fifth. Five years ago in Boston there were nine radio stations. Today there are 25. The trend is toward specialialization, and rock is drifting toward the FM dial. "Anyone who's into music is going to want to hear it on FM, where it sounds decent," says John H. He predicts that within ten years, AM radio will consist entirely of talk shows, supported by an adult or even geriatric audience. These days John H. is considering several offers of consulting jobs, but he itches to get his hands on a Boston FM station. "At WMEX," he says, we proved a lot of concepts but we had to make compromises because those (word deleted by Webmaster) little 12-year-olds control a lot of transistors. But if you could put the New Music on FM, you'd cream the competition." From gallen2@nescaum.org Mon May 19 11:45:53 2008 From: gallen2@nescaum.org (George Allen) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:45:53 -0400 Subject: WCRB Is 60, Not 79 Message-ID: I agree with the 60th. Their 25th was when I was working there in the early-mid 70's. I still have the clock radio they gave out at their big 25th party with a 25-years plaque on it. As for WCRB broadcasting their Sunday 11am services, the Globe reads: "We've done readings here, and since 1929 WCRB has broadcast our services, including a half-hour sermon and church music." They obviously got the start date wrong. But that church did broadcast services on WCRB for many years; I did the remote work for a couple of years until the deacon or whomever complained to WCRB about my "dress code"... [I was a quasi-hippie back then]. -- George At 11:33 AM 5/19/2008, you wrote: >Subject: WCRB Is 60, Not 79 >Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:32:23 -0400 >From: "Laurence Glavin" >To: > >The Theater and Arts section of today's (05/16) Boston Globe contains a story >about an artistic organization performing at the Cathedral Church of Saint >Paul, which is NOT located in Saint Paul, MN, but right here in >Boston. Anyway, >in paragraph four of the story, mention is made of the Church's broadcasting >history...but it seems to have gotten the facts wrong about the radio station >broadcasting its services: > >http://www.boston.com/ae/theater_arts/articles/2008/05/16/an_inspired_setting_for_king_john/ > >I do believe WCRB is celebrating its SIXTIETH birthday, not 79th. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon May 19 13:31:05 2008 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:31:05 -0400 Subject: WCRB Is 60, Not 79 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080519173013.CE6AC226DF7@relay5.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> At 11:45 AM 5/19/2008, George Allen wrote: >I agree with the 60th. Their 25th was when I was working there in >the early-mid 70's. I still have the clock radio they gave out at >their big 25th party with a 25-years plaque on it. I have the articles from the day that WCRB went on the air, and it was 30 January 1948. From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon May 19 14:20:57 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 14:20:57 -0400 Subject: WCRB Is 60, Not 79 References: Message-ID: <0A505967104C4178A969B169A31BA63C@SatU205S5044> Don't you think 1929 was just a typo and that the taxt should have read 1949--UNLESS the services were on some older radio station (we can all speculate about which one) until they moved to WCRB ~1949? If the latter, the problem was the writer's confusing the year the program began with the year it began on WCRB. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Allen" To: Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:45 AM Subject: Re: WCRB Is 60, Not 79 >I agree with the 60th. Their 25th was when I was working there in >the early-mid 70's. I still have the clock radio they gave out at >their big 25th party with a 25-years plaque on it. > > As for WCRB broadcasting their Sunday 11am services, the Globe > reads: > "We've done readings here, and since 1929 WCRB has broadcast our > services, including a half-hour sermon and church music." > > They obviously got the start date wrong. But that church did > broadcast services on WCRB for many years; I did the remote work for > a couple of years until the deacon or whomever complained to WCRB > about my "dress code"... [I was a quasi-hippie back then]. > -- George > > > At 11:33 AM 5/19/2008, you wrote: >>Subject: WCRB Is 60, Not 79 >>Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:32:23 -0400 >>From: "Laurence Glavin" >>To: >> >>The Theater and Arts section of today's (05/16) Boston Globe >>contains a story >>about an artistic organization performing at the Cathedral Church of >>Saint >>Paul, which is NOT located in Saint Paul, MN, but right here in >>Boston. Anyway, >>in paragraph four of the story, mention is made of the Church's >>broadcasting >>history...but it seems to have gotten the facts wrong about the >>radio station >>broadcasting its services: >> >>http://www.boston.com/ae/theater_arts/articles/2008/05/16/an_inspired_setting_for_king_john/ >> >>I do believe WCRB is celebrating its SIXTIETH birthday, not 79th. > From lglavin@mail.com Mon May 19 16:39:06 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:39:06 -0500 Subject: WCRB Is 60, Not 79 Message-ID: <20080519203906.AC7B8104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan.Strassberg" >To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org, "George Allen" >Subject: Re: WCRB Is 60, Not 79 >Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 14:20:57 -0400 >Don't you think 1929 was just a typo and that the taxt should have >read 1949--UNLESS the services were on some older radio station (we >can all speculate about which one) until they moved to WCRB ~1949? If >the latter, the problem was the writer's confusing the year the >program began with the year it began on WCRB. >----- >Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) >eFax 1-707-215-6367 I sent an email to the Globe's correction department, but they haven't printed one as of Monday. Of course they may consider it a minor point, but I've seen corrections on page a2 (where they normally occur) of the seemingly slightest errors, like spelling some gentleman named Stephen as Steven. -- See Exclusive Video: 10th Annual Young Hollywood Awards http://www.hollywoodlife.net/younghollywoodawards2008/ From joe@attorneyross.com Tue May 20 01:26:10 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 01:26:10 -0400 Subject: WRKO vs. WMEX In-Reply-To: <049a01c8b971$bb5f5810$8201a8c0@MainXPPro> References: <049a01c8b971$bb5f5810$8201a8c0@MainXPPro> Message-ID: <483228B2.8170.8ADF16@joe.attorneyross.com> On 19 May 2008 at 1:32, Don A wrote: > Many people have spoken about the WMEX vs. WRKO battle...and the year > that WMEX actually beat WRKO in the ratings. I missed all of that. I was in the area, and sometimes listening to WMEX, but I wasn't paying that much attention to the radio wars at that time. I wish someone would do a website about WMEX comparable to the one about WRKO. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat May 24 01:20:54 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 01:20:54 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum! Message-ID: <48376D76.19575.87AAB6@joe.attorneyross.com> I appreciate all the suggestions I got a few weeks ago when I asked for help getting rid of an AC hum when I connected my stereo to my desktop computer through a patch cord. Since then, I've never managed to get the hum to go away for very long. It keeps coming back. So I'm thinking of another strategy for recording records and tapes into computer files: Use my laptop. trouble is, my laptop doesn't have an auxiliary input jack, just a mike jack. Anything that I play into that jack comes out loud and distorted. Is there any kind of adapter that I can get that will make it possible to use the laptop for this purpose? Or do I have to get another laptop? That's not going to happen for awhile. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Sat May 24 01:35:57 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 01:35:57 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum! In-Reply-To: <48376D76.19575.87AAB6@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <48376D76.19575.87AAB6@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <4837A93D.6010801@ttlc.net> They do sell a USB turntable. It converts audio directly through an internal USB sound card which you can plug directly into your computer's USB port. Or your laptop's USB port. A. Joseph Ross wrote: > I appreciate all the suggestions I got a few weeks ago when I asked > for help getting rid of an AC hum when I connected my stereo to my > desktop computer through a patch cord. Since then, I've never > managed to get the hum to go away for very long. It keeps coming > back. > > So I'm thinking of another strategy for recording records and tapes > into computer files: Use my laptop. trouble is, my laptop doesn't > have an auxiliary input jack, just a mike jack. Anything that I play > into that jack comes out loud and distorted. Is there any kind of > adapter that I can get that will make it possible to use the laptop > for this purpose? Or do I have to get another laptop? That's not > going to happen for awhile. > > From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Sat May 24 01:37:36 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 01:37:36 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum! In-Reply-To: <48376D76.19575.87AAB6@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <48376D76.19575.87AAB6@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <4837A9A0.4060103@ttlc.net> You can buy a USB sound card that plugs into the USB port of your laptop. Connect the left & right channels from your stereo to the audio inputs of the USB sound card. A. Joseph Ross wrote: > I appreciate all the suggestions I got a few weeks ago when I asked > for help getting rid of an AC hum when I connected my stereo to my > desktop computer through a patch cord. Since then, I've never > managed to get the hum to go away for very long. It keeps coming > back. > > So I'm thinking of another strategy for recording records and tapes > into computer files: Use my laptop. trouble is, my laptop doesn't > have an auxiliary input jack, just a mike jack. Anything that I play > into that jack comes out loud and distorted. Is there any kind of > adapter that I can get that will make it possible to use the laptop > for this purpose? Or do I have to get another laptop? That's not > going to happen for awhile. > > From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sat May 24 10:11:28 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 10:11:28 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum! In-Reply-To: <4837A9A0.4060103@ttlc.net> References: <48376D76.19575.87AAB6@joe.attorneyross.com> <4837A9A0.4060103@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <002a01c8bda8$0f7cc650$2e7652f0$@com> I use a laptop extensively when I'm on the air at WMWM (I keep my production elements on it). I've found that the built-in sound card in most laptops leaves a bit to be desired. Its not that it hums, it just has a very high noise floor (hiss and computer clock noise is fairly high). With the laptops I've been using a SoundBlaster Audacity external USB sound card. Not the best but works. I think that it set me back about $50 or so. In my studio I use either a Phonic Firefly (for which I'm a dealer) or some M-Audio boxes. These are firewire or USB and do all of the A to D conversion outside of the computer. The sound quality is quite acceptable. Of course, if you want to spend money, Audio Science makes the real high end boards used with radio station computers. Brian Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 (800)231-8849 sales (800)FAX-CSS5 sales fax (978)538-7575 business office (978)538-7550 business fax www.cssinc.com -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Roger Kirk Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 1:38 AM To: A. Joseph Ross Cc: bri@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: That infernal hum! You can buy a USB sound card that plugs into the USB port of your laptop. Connect the left & right channels from your stereo to the audio inputs of the USB sound card. A. Joseph Ross wrote: > I appreciate all the suggestions I got a few weeks ago when I asked > for help getting rid of an AC hum when I connected my stereo to my > desktop computer through a patch cord. Since then, I've never > managed to get the hum to go away for very long. It keeps coming > back. > > So I'm thinking of another strategy for recording records and tapes > into computer files: Use my laptop. trouble is, my laptop doesn't > have an auxiliary input jack, just a mike jack. Anything that I play > into that jack comes out loud and distorted. Is there any kind of > adapter that I can get that will make it possible to use the laptop > for this purpose? Or do I have to get another laptop? That's not > going to happen for awhile. > > From hmadjid@gmail.com Sat May 24 14:02:42 2008 From: hmadjid@gmail.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 14:02:42 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum! Message-ID: Counsellor Ross wrote: >So I'm thinking of another strategy for recording records and tapes >into computer files: Use my laptop. trouble is, my laptop doesn't >have an auxiliary input jack, just a mike jack. Anything that I play >into that jack comes out loud and distorted. Is there any kind of >adapter that I can get that will make it possible to use the laptop >for this purpose? Or do I have to get another laptop? That's not >going to happen for awhile. Go to the web site below - this gizmo should do the trick. http://www.soundtech.com/products/home-recording/stusbst To interface a turntable you probably need a pre amp like this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/155434-REG/Rolls_VP29_VP29_Phono_Preamp.html -- 73 DE Hakim (N1ZFF) From rbello@belloassoc.com Sat May 24 16:06:25 2008 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 16:06:25 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum! Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080524160622.039798a8@belloassoc.com> Costco.com has: Ion ITTUSB Turntable w/ USB Output Vinyl Recording Software Belt Drive Turntable For $99.99 After $20 OFF Item # 138540 Shipping & Handling included * http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11171944&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|79|80|487&N=4001428&Mo=36&pos=2&No=0&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=487&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&ec=BC-EC10610-Cat80&topnav= I have seen this item in there stores also. At 01:20 AM 5/24/2008, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >I appreciate all the suggestions I got a few weeks ago when I asked >for help getting rid of an AC hum when I connected my stereo to my >desktop computer through a patch cord. Since then, I've never >managed to get the hum to go away for very long. It keeps coming >back. > >So I'm thinking of another strategy for recording records and tapes >into computer files: Use my laptop. trouble is, my laptop doesn't >have an auxiliary input jack, just a mike jack. Anything that I play >into that jack comes out loud and distorted. Is there any kind of >adapter that I can get that will make it possible to use the laptop >for this purpose? Or do I have to get another laptop? That's not >going to happen for awhile. > >-- >A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 >Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@comcast.net Sat May 24 10:06:34 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 09:06:34 -0500 Subject: WLS Rewind on Monday Message-ID: <4fc429770805240706p87433acj52868ea895073376@mail.gmail.com> WLS 890 Chicago will go back to Top 40 on Monday and 2 former Boston jocks will be on. Larry Lujack will be on from 9 to Noon CDT and later in the day Chuck Knapp will be on. Lujack was at WMEX in 1966 but was Johnny Lujack as Mac liked that name and Knapp was on WRKO from day 1. Tommy Edwards will be on with Lujack and he was a PD at WODS 20 years ago. From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Sat May 24 20:09:46 2008 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WLS Rewind on Monday In-Reply-To: <4fc429770805240706p87433acj52868ea895073376@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <72068.52584.qm@web58305.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: > WLS 890 Chicago will go back to Top 40 on Monday and 2 former Boston > jocks will be on. > > Larry Lujack will be on from 9 to Noon CDT and later in the day Chuck > Knapp will be on. > > Lujack was at WMEX in 1966 but was Johnny Lujack as Mac liked that > name and Knapp was on WRKO from day 1. > > Tommy Edwards will be on with Lujack and he was a PD at WODS 20 years > ago. Is WABC doing the rewind as it has in the past? From kc1ih@mac.com Sat May 24 21:51:16 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 21:51:16 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum! In-Reply-To: <48376D76.19575.87AAB6@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <48376D76.19575.87AAB6@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: At 1:20 AM -0400 5/24/08, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >I appreciate all the suggestions I got a few weeks ago when I asked >for help getting rid of an AC hum when I connected my stereo to my >desktop computer through a patch cord. Since then, I've never >managed to get the hum to go away for very long. It keeps coming >back. Have you tried using a ground loop isolator. These are available at Radio Shack or at Best Buy (in the car audio department), and cost around $15 I think. >So I'm thinking of another strategy for recording records and tapes >into computer files: Use my laptop. trouble is, my laptop doesn't >have an auxiliary input jack, just a mike jack. Anything that I play >into that jack comes out loud and distorted. Is there any kind of >adapter that I can get that will make it possible to use the laptop >for this purpose? Or do I have to get another laptop? That's not >going to happen for awhile. You can get a patch cord with a resistive pad that brings the level down to mic level, again at Radio Shack. Keep in mind that the mic input is usually monaural only. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From scott@fybush.com Sat May 24 21:15:14 2008 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 21:15:14 -0400 Subject: WLS Rewind on Monday In-Reply-To: <72068.52584.qm@web58305.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <72068.52584.qm@web58305.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4838BDA2.1000404@fybush.com> Sean Smyth wrote: > Kevin Vahey wrote: >> WLS 890 Chicago will go back to Top 40 on Monday and 2 former Boston >> jocks will be on. >> >> Larry Lujack will be on from 9 to Noon CDT and later in the day Chuck >> Knapp will be on. >> >> Lujack was at WMEX in 1966 but was Johnny Lujack as Mac liked that >> name and Knapp was on WRKO from day 1. >> >> Tommy Edwards will be on with Lujack and he was a PD at WODS 20 years >> ago. > > Is WABC doing the rewind as it has in the past? Sure is - 6 AM to 6 PM with old airchecks, then the Rewound Talk Show from 6-8 PM. Among this year's highlights is an hour of Imus from WNNNNNNNNNBC.... s From hmadjid@gmail.com Sun May 25 14:53:16 2008 From: hmadjid@gmail.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 14:53:16 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum! Message-ID: Ron Bello writes: >Ion ITTUSB Turntable w/ USB Output Yes this could be a solution, but the build quality of the ION does not inspire confidence, IMHO. -- 73 de Hakim Madjid From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun May 25 19:13:27 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 19:13:27 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000301c8bebc$f12741b0$d375c510$@com> I handle one from Audio Technica. Although I haven't had first hand experience with the turntable, I have used their cartridges and microphones and found them to be overall very good. I also have another one from Gemini. Their stuff tends to be a bit on the low-rent end of the scale. If you're interested, I can be reached off list. Brian Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 (800)231-8849 sales (800)FAX-CSS5 sales fax (978)538-7575 business office (978)538-7550 business fax www.cssinc.com -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Hakim Madjid Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:53 PM To: rbello@belloassoc.com; joe@attorneyross.com; bri@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: That infernal hum! Ron Bello writes: >Ion ITTUSB Turntable w/ USB Output Yes this could be a solution, but the build quality of the ION does not inspire confidence, IMHO. -- 73 de Hakim Madjid From ewerme@comcast.net Sun May 25 22:01:50 2008 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:01:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: That infernal hum! Message-ID: <20080526020150.B914A5D329@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> > So I'm thinking of another strategy for recording records and tapes > into computer files: Use my laptop. trouble is, my laptop doesn't > have an auxiliary input jack, just a mike jack. Anything that I play > into that jack comes out loud and distorted. Is there any kind of > adapter that I can get that will make it possible to use the laptop > for this purpose? Or do I have to get another laptop? That's not > going to happen for awhile. IIRC, "Line In" (or aux in) ports expect a 1 volt peak-peak signal. Since "mike in " doesn't work, I assume it's expecting something like a ceramic microphone. One problem with records is that "RIAA equalization" will be an issue. another issue is that the signal is much weaker than line in. I don't know beans about recording software and what adjustments like equalization it offers. A USB turnable, especially if it has a line in jack, might be a decent way to go, even if you understand all the pits. -Ric Werme From cohasset@frontiernet.net Sun May 25 23:46:03 2008 From: cohasset@frontiernet.net (Cohasset / Hippisley) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 23:46:03 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum! In-Reply-To: <20080526020150.B914A5D329@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> References: <20080526020150.B914A5D329@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> Message-ID: <004801c8bee3$05781ab0$10685010$@net> -----Original Message----- > So I'm thinking of another strategy for recording records and tapes > into computer files: Use my laptop. trouble is, my laptop doesn't > have an auxiliary input jack, just a mike jack. Anything that I play > into that jack comes out loud and distorted. Is there any kind of > adapter that I can get that will make it possible to use the laptop > for this purpose? Or do I have to get another laptop? That's not > going to happen for awhile. Assuming you have some stereo records and/or tapes, you *will* need to add an outboard USB or PCMCIA (aka "PC Card") box to your laptop since, as someone else has noted, the mic jack is monaural only and USB and PCMCIA represent the easiest way to get digitized stereo audio streams into your laptop. But being forced to do this is not all bad, because most of the built-in sound card functions on laptops have some objectionable limitations for those interested in making clean full-frequency-range recordings. For instance, it is a rare laptop that has 24-bit audio built-in (MacBook Pro does). Most laptops are 16-bit audio, whereas 24-bit sound cards are pretty common these days. Secondly, taped audio typically comes off your tape recorder (reel to reel or cassette) at line level; this will overload your mic input unless you have an attenuator cable, as someone else has noted. And of course, you will lose any stereo effects. My son, who keeps up on computer hardware, says the current "favorite" for external USB sound cards is the Sound Blaster Audigy. At one time (and perhaps even now) Turtle Beach was also a highly rated brand. Phonograph records add one more dimension to your challenge, because they have been put down on the vinyl with so-called RIAA equalization which boosts the highs (for increased high frequency signal-to-noise ratio) and reduces the lows (to reduce the total real estate used by bass notes). Also, phono outputs (unless they're the very, very cheap ones with high level ceramic cartridges) are in the same range as microphone levels; that is to say, perhaps 20 dB down on average from line level. As far as I know, the standard Sound Blaster Audigy does *not* provide separate RIAA phono inputs -- just line level inputs (and perhaps "flat" mic inputs), so it becomes your responsibility to find a way to get from phonograph player output levels with RIAA equalization to line levels with no equalization. In my opinion, the simplest way to handle all this stuff is to acquire a used stereo preamp or receiver that is old enough to still have a PHONO input position on the front panel selector switch. Feed your tape recorder outputs into any of the line level inputs (AUX, CD, TAPE 1, TAPE 2, etc.) and feed the outputs of your phonograph into the PHONO jacks. Then run a cable from the TAPE OUT (unaffected by settings of the main volume control) jacks or the PREAMP OUT (affected by the main volume control setting) jacks on the preamp or receiver to your USB sound card stereo LINE IN jack, which is almost always going to be implemented on the USB card as a single 1/8-inch jack with two hot connections (Left & Right) and one ground connection. There are many decent software packages available for recording on your laptop; Audacity comes to mind, but there are others -- some free (check TUCOWS.COM) and some costing bucks. Some include (basic or as an option) "click & pop" filters for your old vinyl records. I've assumed throughout this that you are trying to make *decent* digital copies of your old records and tapes. If the laptop happens to be a MacBook Pro, there is a stereo input jack but as I recall it's at mic level, so you still need an attenuator cable to record your tapes. And regardless of the input level the MBP may have, you will still need to add an RIAA box to record your vinyl. Bud Hippisley From joe@attorneyross.com Mon May 26 00:28:48 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 00:28:48 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum Message-ID: <483A0440.14098.296948B@joe.attorneyross.com> Thanks to everyone who has answered online and off. I thought the most likely solution might be a USB sound card, to which I could then patch my stereo system into my laptop. That would also be convenient, since I could set the laptop next to the stereo and control things without walking back and forth. So I went to MicroCenter today, but of the three USB soundcards they had, two had only an output jack, and one had only an output and a mike jack. Same problem I already have. So I'm going to look online and see if that solves the problem. Baring a solution to the hum problem, other possibilities may be to try connecting a boom-box that I have, which plays cassettes, to my desk computer's soundcard. If that works, I can then use the stereo to tape the records and then play the tapes into the computer. Or I just might break down and get a CD recorder for my stereo system. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon May 26 00:28:49 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 00:28:49 -0400 Subject: WCAP Message-ID: <483A0441.16537.2969AA5@joe.attorneyross.com> I notice that WCAP has a half=page ad in the Delegate Guide for this year's Democratic State Convention, which will be held at Tsongas Arena in Lowell. They say they will broadcast all convention activities, including live coverage on Saturday. I remember when WBZ used to carry both state political conventions. But the add has the URL of their Website wrong. They have www.980.wcap.com . There is no dot between 980 and wcap. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From kc1ih@mac.com Mon May 26 01:40:00 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 01:40:00 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum In-Reply-To: <483A0440.14098.296948B@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <483A0440.14098.296948B@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: At 12:28 AM -0400 5/26/08, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > >So I went to MicroCenter today, but of the three USB soundcards they >had, two had only an output jack, and one had only an output and a >mike jack. Same problem I already have. So I'm going to look online >and see if that solves the problem. The Griffin iMic has an output jack, and an input jack that can be switched between mic and line level. It might only be found in the Mac section of the store, but it will work just as well with a PC. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon May 26 06:52:51 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 06:52:51 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum References: <483A0440.14098.296948B@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <1549E416E7BB43B3876A150356666819@SatU205S5044> I'm confused. What can you do with a USB sound card that has no input connectors--as Joe said was the case with two of the three units he saw at MicroCenter? Seems as though, without input connectors, the external unit would have to rely on the laptop's own Mic jack to connect all audio sources. But doesn't the laptop's Mic jack go through a very simple preamp and then pretty much straight to the laptop's ADC (and ONLY to the ADC)? If so, the USB sound card could have only16-bit digital audio to work with and the data would always contain artifacts, such as noise and distortion, that were introduced by the laptop's ADC and mic preamp, whereas if the external unit had its own Mic input, it could work with analog signals processed by a higher quality preamp and digitized to 24-bit-resolution by its own ADC. I suppose the external unit could use DSP (digital signal processing) to up-sample (interpolate) the 16-bit data stream to 24 bits at what would appear to be a higher sampling rate, but such a higher-resolution data stream could contain no more information than the original 16-bit stream. I thought that lower noise and distortion and true increased digitizer resolution were the main reasons someone would want to use an external sound card with a laptop. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 12:28 AM Subject: That infernal hum > So I went to MicroCenter today, but of the three USB soundcards they > had, two had only an output jack, and one had only an output and a > mike jack. Same problem I already have. So I'm going to look > online > and see if that solves the problem. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. > > From ncn86@hotmail.com Mon May 26 08:24:06 2008 From: ncn86@hotmail.com (Nickolas Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:24:06 -0400 Subject: WLS Rewind! Message-ID: I think its really cool that WLS has gone back to its roots today from 6-midnight. Being a little too young to have heard music on WLS, its neat to here some of the old-style (not old in the least) DJ's bring their charm back to the airwaves. Its these ladies and gents that got me into a career in radio in the first place; these were people who didnt just talked about the music, they got you into the music and made you feel good doing it. Listening to the stream online (no signal in NH, crud), the old jingles and disc jockey personality are a refreshing change from normal, plain disc jockeys of today (except for Bob Shannon, my idol and everyone at WCBS-FM). WLS lives again! -Nick NH _________________________________________________________________ E-mail for the greater good. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon May 26 13:34:27 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 13:34:27 -0400 Subject: WLS Rewind! Message-ID: <5883CBE0CC114FE8A3DAB53851C9BEFA@MainXPPro> No signal in Vermont either...however...You can listen online at: http://www.wlsam.com/article.asp?id=152352 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nickolas Noseworthy" To: Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 8:24 AM Subject: WLS Rewind! I think its really cool that WLS has gone back to its roots today from 6-midnight. Being a little too young to have heard music on WLS, its neat to here some of the old-style (not old in the least) DJ's bring their charm back to the airwaves. Its these ladies and gents that got me into a career in radio in the first place; these were people who didnt just talked about the music, they got you into the music and made you feel good doing it. Listening to the stream online (no signal in NH, crud), the old jingles and disc jockey personality are a refreshing change from normal, plain disc jockeys of today (except for Bob Shannon, my idol and everyone at WCBS-FM). WLS lives again! -Nick NH _________________________________________________________________ E-mail for the greater good. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood= From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon May 26 13:37:13 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 13:37:13 -0400 Subject: WABC is Rewound as well..... Message-ID: <291B0954B0944877968D9C4897AAA0A6@MainXPPro> And WABC is doing rewound as well. They're online at: http://www.wabcradio.com/article.asp?id=531472 From kvahey@comcast.net Mon May 26 13:44:04 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 12:44:04 -0500 Subject: WLS Rewind! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4fc429770805261044s53a23d3fi283557f69393ef80@mail.gmail.com> Heard Chuck Knapp this morning and a little bit of Lujack. Didn't JJ Jeffrey spend some time at WLS as well? On 5/26/08, Nickolas Noseworthy wrote: > I think its really cool that WLS has gone back to its roots today from > 6-midnight. Being a little too young to have heard music on WLS, its neat to > here some of the old-style (not old in the least) DJ's bring their charm > back to the airwaves. Its these ladies and gents that got me into a career > in radio in the first place; these were people who didnt just talked about > the music, they got you into the music and made you feel good doing it. > Listening to the stream online (no signal in NH, crud), the old jingles and > disc jockey personality are a refreshing change from normal, plain disc > jockeys of today (except for Bob Shannon, my idol and everyone at WCBS-FM). > > WLS lives again! > > -Nick > NH > > > _________________________________________________________________ > E-mail for the greater good. Join the i'm Initiative from Microsoft. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood From billohno@gmail.com Mon May 26 18:24:15 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:24:15 -0400 Subject: WLS Rewind! In-Reply-To: <5883CBE0CC114FE8A3DAB53851C9BEFA@MainXPPro> References: <5883CBE0CC114FE8A3DAB53851C9BEFA@MainXPPro> Message-ID: <483B388F.4060104@gmail.com> Don A wrote: > No signal in Vermont either...however...You can listen online at: > > http://www.wlsam.com/article.asp?id=152352 Thanks for the link. Good stuff to listen to as I catch up on work (that I should have done on Friday). Funny bit with Bill Bailey about the fact that they did not have any security guards on their (WLS's) floor for obvious reasons. Bill O'Neill From joe@attorneyross.com Mon May 26 18:49:51 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:49:51 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum In-Reply-To: References: <483A0440.14098.296948B@joe.attorneyross.com>, Message-ID: <483B064F.16065.64A5FD@joe.attorneyross.com> On 26 May 2008 at 1:40, Larry Weil wrote: > The Griffin iMic has an output jack, and an input jack that can be > switched between mic and line level. It might only be found in the > Mac section of the store, but it will work just as well with a PC. So I discovered when I looked for USB soundcards on eBay. And I've made a bid on one. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon May 26 18:49:51 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:49:51 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum In-Reply-To: <1549E416E7BB43B3876A150356666819@SatU205S5044> References: <483A0440.14098.296948B@joe.attorneyross.com>, <1549E416E7BB43B3876A150356666819@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <483B064F.31325.64A717@joe.attorneyross.com> On 26 May 2008 at 6:52, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I'm confused. What can you do with a USB sound card that has no input > connectors--as Joe said was the case with two of the three units he > saw at MicroCenter? Apparently it's for playing CDs or downloaded sound files with higher- quality sound than the laptop's built-in soundcard can manage. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From billohno@gmail.com Mon May 26 19:17:36 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:17:36 -0400 Subject: WLS Rewind Message-ID: <483B4510.1070509@gmail.com> Tonight on Landecker's rewind - the first song out of the box - you could hear the mic channel but the music track was just a bleed-over from another channel. Interesting to hear him cranking out a talkup but with no music under it. After some silence you could hear him breathing and prepping for the back-sell. The rest of the audio was back on track. Perhaps they resurrected the same equipment for the event? Jocking a rewind weekend must be a blast. Bill O'Neill -- I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio. /Rodney Dangerfield/ From cohasset@frontiernet.net Mon May 26 19:40:20 2008 From: cohasset@frontiernet.net (Cohasset / Hippisley) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum In-Reply-To: <1549E416E7BB43B3876A150356666819@SatU205S5044> References: <483A0440.14098.296948B@joe.attorneyross.com> <1549E416E7BB43B3876A150356666819@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <007101c8bf89$dc5175d0$94f46170$@net> A quick google with some key terms led me to the Sound Blaster Audigy 2 NX, which seems to have the necessary inputs and outputs -- albeit a bit pricey. Bud Hippisley From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Mon May 26 21:21:30 2008 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WLS Rewind In-Reply-To: <483B4510.1070509@gmail.com> Message-ID: <437630.60573.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I believe one of the pots on the WLS air board might not be activated properly. Stay With Me- Rod Stewart and the Nixon bit were out of phase and only the reverb made it though. Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Mon, 5/26/08, Bill O'Neill wrote: > From: Bill O'Neill > Subject: WLS Rewind > To: "Boston Radio Interest" > Date: Monday, May 26, 2008, 7:17 PM > Tonight on Landecker's rewind - the first song out of > the box - you > could hear the mic channel but the music track was just a > bleed-over > from another channel. Interesting to hear him cranking out > a talkup but > with no music under it. After some silence you could hear > him breathing > and prepping for the back-sell. The rest of the audio was > back on > track. Perhaps they resurrected the same equipment for the > event? > > Jocking a rewind weekend must be a blast. > > Bill O'Neill > > -- > I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a > toaster and a radio. > /Rodney Dangerfield/ From billohno@gmail.com Mon May 26 21:24:01 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:24:01 -0400 Subject: WLS Rewind! In-Reply-To: <4fc429770805261815i56ebc80dqaff41bb9dd6534ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <5883CBE0CC114FE8A3DAB53851C9BEFA@MainXPPro> <483B388F.4060104@gmail.com> <4fc429770805261815i56ebc80dqaff41bb9dd6534ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <483B62B1.3090208@gmail.com> One of their audio sources is not punched up on the aux or program line that feeds the webstream. The Nixon bit and a couple of songs or spots didn't feed as they were mix-minused. Not sure that matters much given the the flame-thrower 890. (WCBS 880 wipes it out here in western Vermont as it comes in like a local.) b - Kevin Vahey wrote: > I honestly think WLS was the best Top 40 station ever. > > Talent wise it was the equal of WABC if not a little better. > > The guy who did sports this morning Les Grobstein is famous in Chicago > for recording a Cubs manager having a meltdown. > > Lujack played it unedited and somehow the FCC never did anything. It > is a classic > > You can find it on You Tube just search for Lee Elia... he said the > magic words.... > > On 5/26/08, Bill O'Neill wrote: > >> Don A wrote: >> >>> No signal in Vermont either...however...You can listen online at: >>> >>> http://www.wlsam.com/article.asp?id=152352 >>> >> Thanks for the link. Good stuff to listen to as I catch up on work (that >> I should have done on Friday). Funny bit with Bill Bailey about the fact >> that they did not have any security guards on their (WLS's) floor for >> obvious reasons. >> >> Bill O'Neill >> >> From kvahey@comcast.net Mon May 26 21:15:00 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:15:00 -0500 Subject: WLS Rewind! In-Reply-To: <483B388F.4060104@gmail.com> References: <5883CBE0CC114FE8A3DAB53851C9BEFA@MainXPPro> <483B388F.4060104@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770805261815i56ebc80dqaff41bb9dd6534ec@mail.gmail.com> I honestly think WLS was the best Top 40 station ever. Talent wise it was the equal of WABC if not a little better. The guy who did sports this morning Les Grobstein is famous in Chicago for recording a Cubs manager having a meltdown. Lujack played it unedited and somehow the FCC never did anything. It is a classic You can find it on You Tube just search for Lee Elia... he said the magic words.... On 5/26/08, Bill O'Neill wrote: > Don A wrote: >> No signal in Vermont either...however...You can listen online at: >> >> http://www.wlsam.com/article.asp?id=152352 > > Thanks for the link. Good stuff to listen to as I catch up on work (that > I should have done on Friday). Funny bit with Bill Bailey about the fact > that they did not have any security guards on their (WLS's) floor for > obvious reasons. > > Bill O'Neill > From HeritageRadio@msn.com Tue May 27 02:15:04 2008 From: HeritageRadio@msn.com (thomas heathwood) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 02:15:04 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum References: <483A0440.14098.296948B@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: Joe - Sorry you are still having troubles with your attempts to hook up a dubbing route to your computer. In addition to what I mentioned last time, you must understand that the "mike input" is NOT going to match your attempted connection of the stereo output. Your gain and equalization will both be incorrect. May I suggest that you simply: 1. Get the two pieces of equipment side by side - not connected by lengthy extensions. 2. That you attempt to connect the USB input (sound card input) to the "headphones" jack on your amplifier and not to the "audio output" jack. If that doesn't help, you can get an equalization patch from Radio Shack that will convert hi-Z (high impedance) output to low-Z and tyhen can use the "mike" input, probably still recing the gain to a fairly low level on the amplifier. A knowledgeable clerk at Radio Shack should be able to supply such a conversion patch. In the end, if it is going to be worth it for you, you coulkd replace the sound card with one which has a "line level" input included so you can plug your stereo output directly to the the coputer. In any event, attempting to use the "mike in" access is not going to work and may even cause permanent damage to your computer. <> HeritageRadio@msn.com May 28, 2008 ----- Original Message ----- From: A. Joseph Ross To: bri@bostonradio.org Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 12:28 AM Subject: That infernal hum Thanks to everyone who has answered online and off. I thought the most likely solution might be a USB sound card, to which I could then patch my stereo system into my laptop. That would also be convenient, since I could set the laptop next to the stereo and control things without walking back and forth. So I went to MicroCenter today, but of the three USB soundcards they had, two had only an output jack, and one had only an output and a mike jack. Same problem I already have. So I'm going to look online and see if that solves the problem. Baring a solution to the hum problem, other possibilities may be to try connecting a boom-box that I have, which plays cassettes, to my desk computer's soundcard. If that works, I can then use the stereo to tape the records and then play the tapes into the computer. Or I just might break down and get a CD recorder for my stereo system. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue May 27 03:29:51 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 03:29:51 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum In-Reply-To: References: <483A0440.14098.296948B@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <005b01c8bfcb$73f85520$5be8ff60$@com> > A knowledgeable clerk at Radio Shack < Isn't that an oxymoron? Brian From madprof@ix.netcom.com Tue May 27 08:25:01 2008 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:25:01 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum - Radio shack Message-ID: <380-22008522712251453@ix.netcom.com> oops, meant to send to group actually, 20(?) years ago, Bob Nystrom worked at a Shack store in Worcester... he was then a engineer at WSRS, and experimenting with CMOS transmission gates for audio, long before such ICs in usage in many audio / broadcast equipment. but, that's 1 person out out Radio Shack 1000's. most, when they say "can I help you?", I'm inclined to say "yeah, by leaving me alone". what, me nasty? Bob > > [Original Message] > > From: Brian Vita > > To: thomas heathwood ; A. Joseph Ross > > Cc: > > Date: 5/27/2008 3:45:09 AM > > Subject: RE: That infernal hum > > > > > > > A knowledgeable clerk at Radio Shack < > > > > Isn't that an oxymoron? > > > > Brian From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue May 27 09:57:11 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:57:11 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum - Radio shack Message-ID: <200805271357.JAA10005@colossus.bilow.com> Don't forget their motto. You got questions (we're clueless). -----Original Message----- From: Robert F. Sutherland Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:25 AM To: bri@bostonradio.org Subject: RE: That infernal hum - Radio shack oops, meant to send to group actually, 20(?) years ago, Bob Nystrom worked at a Shack store in Worcester... he was then a engineer at WSRS, and experimenting with CMOS transmission gates for audio, long before such ICs in usage in many audio / broadcast equipment. but, that's 1 person out out Radio Shack 1000's. most, when they say "can I help you?", I'm inclined to say "yeah, by leaving me alone". what, me nasty? Bob > > [Original Message] > > From: Brian Vita > > To: thomas heathwood ; A. Joseph Ross > > Cc: > > Date: 5/27/2008 3:45:09 AM > > Subject: RE: That infernal hum > > > > > > > A knowledgeable clerk at Radio Shack < > > > > Isn't that an oxymoron? > > > > Brian From sid@wrko.com Tue May 27 10:35:43 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:35:43 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum - Radio shack In-Reply-To: <200805271357.JAA10005@colossus.bilow.com> References: <200805271357.JAA10005@colossus.bilow.com> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809873239CD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>Don't forget their motto. You got questions (we're clueless).<< That's a change, then. It used to be: "You've got questions? We've got batteries." Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue May 27 11:28:54 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:28:54 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum - Radio shack In-Reply-To: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809873239CD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <001801c8c00e$5fb65880$6400a8c0@lysthia> Didn't they recently change to something like "Do something"? I'm thinking "not with the crap you've got here".... ------------------------------------ Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. Brian Vita President brian_vita@cssinc.com 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 tel: 978-538-7575 tel2:(800)231-8849 fax: 978-538-7550 IM: btvita@hotmail.com www.cssinc.com AIM: btvita ------------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Sid Schweiger > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:36 AM > To: bri@bostonradio.org > Subject: RE: That infernal hum - Radio shack > > > >>Don't forget their motto. You got questions (we're clueless).<< > > That's a change, then. It used to be: "You've got > questions? We've got batteries." > > > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom New England > WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF > WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > Brighton MA 02135-2040 > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1468 - Release > Date: 5/26/2008 3:23 PM > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1468 - Release Date: 5/26/2008 3:23 PM From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue May 27 13:05:03 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:05:03 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum - Radio shack In-Reply-To: <4fc429770805270951x3ce322d7kbcff9ef0da06328a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003501c8c01b$cea551d0$6400a8c0@lysthia> I don't know if you've been in any of their stores recently but they've been remerchandising them. Anything unique and useful, such as components, connectors, etc. is just about gone. They've become just another cell phone and consumer TV/Radio store. ------------------------------------ Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. Brian Vita President brian_vita@cssinc.com 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 tel: 978-538-7575 tel2:(800)231-8849 fax: 978-538-7550 IM: btvita@hotmail.com www.cssinc.com AIM: btvita ------------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: kvahey@gmail.com [mailto:kvahey@gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Kevin Vahey > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 12:52 PM > To: Brian Vita > Cc: Sid Schweiger; bri@bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: That infernal hum - Radio shack > > > I honestly don't understand how Radio Shack has thrived over > the years. > > They had a chance to dominate the home computer market with > their Tandy line and dropped the ball. > > Anything with the Realistic lable was pure junk. > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1468 - Release Date: 5/26/2008 3:23 PM From billohno@gmail.com Tue May 27 13:39:41 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:39:41 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum - Radio shack In-Reply-To: <003501c8c01b$cea551d0$6400a8c0@lysthia> References: <003501c8c01b$cea551d0$6400a8c0@lysthia> Message-ID: <483C475D.2040608@gmail.com> Brian Vita wrote: > Anything unique and useful, such as components, > connectors, etc. is just about gone. They've become just another cell phone > and consumer TV/Radio store. I was checking out crank radios at RS. The clerk came up and asked if I needed help. Even when I don't my innate curiosity kicks in - I ask what they are going to do with all of their 'end-of-time-as-we-know-it-mothers-stop-your-nursing-crank radios' (AM/FM/TV) after all of the TV signals go dark. He had no idea what I was talking about. He did remind me, however, that it had "this really neat flash light with strobe-effect. Oh, and it has this neat USB plug for charging your cell phone. And, and, it makes great cappucino, and...." That reminded me of another gizmo-crisis. Last week while at a conference a sales guy from someplace was standing nearby, panicking because his Blackberry (or similar) was doing everything except [wait for it] answer his phone calls. I finally handed him my central casting LG phone. Can your beer do this? Bill O'Neill From kvahey@comcast.net Tue May 27 12:51:42 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:51:42 -0500 Subject: That infernal hum - Radio shack In-Reply-To: <001801c8c00e$5fb65880$6400a8c0@lysthia> References: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809873239CD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <001801c8c00e$5fb65880$6400a8c0@lysthia> Message-ID: <4fc429770805270951x3ce322d7kbcff9ef0da06328a@mail.gmail.com> I honestly don't understand how Radio Shack has thrived over the years. They had a chance to dominate the home computer market with their Tandy line and dropped the ball. Anything with the Realistic lable was pure junk. On 5/27/08, Brian Vita wrote: > Didn't they recently change to something like "Do something"? I'm thinking > "not with the crap you've got here".... > > ------------------------------------ > Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. > Brian Vita > President > brian_vita@cssinc.com > 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 > Peabody, MA 01960-5691 > tel: 978-538-7575 > tel2:(800)231-8849 > fax: 978-538-7550 > IM: btvita@hotmail.com > www.cssinc.com > AIM: btvita > ------------------------------------ > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org >> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] >> On Behalf Of Sid Schweiger >> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:36 AM >> To: bri@bostonradio.org >> Subject: RE: That infernal hum - Radio shack >> >> >> >>Don't forget their motto. You got questions (we're clueless).<< >> >> That's a change, then. It used to be: "You've got >> questions? We've got batteries." >> >> >> Sid Schweiger >> IT Manager, Entercom New England >> WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF >> WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM >> 20 Guest St / 3d Floor >> Brighton MA 02135-2040 >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1468 - Release >> Date: 5/26/2008 3:23 PM >> > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1468 - Release Date: 5/26/2008 > 3:23 PM > > > From billohno@gmail.com Tue May 27 14:16:26 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:16:26 -0400 Subject: WLS Message-ID: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com> I listened in to the WLS rewind deal until slightly after 11p (10p CT). Then I clicked off ASAP. The final jock of the day was the big-boy vo guy that WLS is using now. Two words: absolutely pathetic. Great voice? Oh sure. Comparable jock? Put it this way, he is right up there with Barry (Greg Brady) Williams on PM drive on Sirius 70s. (Mother, mother make it stop.) So not-funny, stuffy not-funny, stilted not-funny, uncomfortable not-funny, wow-I-can-hit-posts not funny. File under: Under Absolutely do NOT quit your day job. And I'd say the overall award goes to a retro-news guy Gil Gross (KGO SF). Other than that I have no opinion on the subject . Bill O'Neill -- I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio. /Rodney Dangerfield/ From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Tue May 27 14:25:41 2008 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WLS Rewind! In-Reply-To: <4fc429770805261815i56ebc80dqaff41bb9dd6534ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <781328.86636.qm@web50803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I was a BIG WLS fan since I was 8 years old. In fact, my first encounter with WLS was on 9/7/1968, the night before the first day of school in the 3rd grade. I could not sleep due to the excitement of the first day of class (I'd been out of school since the previous December due to major surgery.) I kinda stole my Mom's "portable" GE radio from her bedroom. Lo and behold, WLS was loud and clear (I mean LOCAL strength!). Hearing Chicago, over 900 miles away, was a trip in itself! The radio was a early version of the pre-Superradio series. I loved it and got my DX feet wet with this baby for many years thereafter. Many years later, I learned that the great John Rook (WLS/Program Director) initiated the famous "89/WLS" PAMS jingles (after many years of WLS using the Anita Kerr series and some earlier PAMS jingles packages), the same week that I first heard WLS for the first time, some 40 years ago. Hearing WLS Musicradio once again this year was a blast! It was great hearing "Boogie Check" (ooooh....ahhhhh!) with Landecker himself, one more time last night! BTW: I was a regular participant of Boogie Check back in the mid-70's! Hearing my own voice on skywave on WLS back in the 70's was a real "hoot" for me, to say the least. My parents, on the other hand, were not as enthused about it, when the phone bill arrived ;)! Oh well..... 73, Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Mon, 5/26/08, Kevin Vahey wrote: > From: Kevin Vahey > Subject: Re: WLS Rewind! > To: "Bill O'Neill" > Cc: "BRI" , "Don A" > Date: Monday, May 26, 2008, 9:15 PM > I honestly think WLS was the best Top 40 station ever. > > Talent wise it was the equal of WABC if not a little > better. > > The guy who did sports this morning Les Grobstein is famous > in Chicago > for recording a Cubs manager having a meltdown. > > Lujack played it unedited and somehow the FCC never did > anything. It > is a classic > > You can find it on You Tube just search for Lee Elia... he > said the > magic words.... > > On 5/26/08, Bill O'Neill > wrote: > > Don A wrote: > >> No signal in Vermont either...however...You can > listen online at: > >> > >> http://www.wlsam.com/article.asp?id=152352 > > > > Thanks for the link. Good stuff to listen to as I > catch up on work (that > > I should have done on Friday). Funny bit with Bill > Bailey about the fact > > that they did not have any security guards on their > (WLS's) floor for > > obvious reasons. > > > > Bill O'Neill > > From kc1ih@mac.com Tue May 27 13:59:32 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:59:32 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum - Radio shack In-Reply-To: <003501c8c01b$cea551d0$6400a8c0@lysthia> References: <4fc429770805270951x3ce322d7kbcff9ef0da06328a@mail.gmail.com> <003501c8c01b$cea551d0$6400a8c0@lysthia> Message-ID: <000d01c8c023$6b197d00$c7151bac@MasterExtra> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Brian Vita > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1:05 PM > To: 'Kevin Vahey' > Cc: bri@bostonradio.org > Subject: RE: That infernal hum - Radio shack > > I don't know if you've been in any of their stores recently > but they've been remerchandising them. Anything unique and > useful, such as components, connectors, etc. is just about > gone. Most of that stuff has been moved to the drawers that are usually near the back of the store. But don't expect the salesperson to know any more about them than they do about HD radio. (How's that for trying to keep it on-topic!)? From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue May 27 14:01:20 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:01:20 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum - Radio shack References: <200805271357.JAA10005@colossus.bilow.com> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809873239CD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <6662A03DB3B04069B820FC96D7FCB94B@SatU205S5044> I thought it was "You've got questions; we've got blank stares." ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Schweiger" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:35 AM Subject: RE: That infernal hum - Radio shack >>Don't forget their motto. You got questions (we're clueless).<< That's a change, then. It used to be: "You've got questions? We've got batteries." Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Tue May 27 15:04:36 2008 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WLS In-Reply-To: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com> Message-ID: <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Bill: The jock in question was Jeff Davis, a WLS alum since the 1970's. Personally, I thought Jeff did a great job. His lower key approach was just right for the end of this years' WLS Rewind. He is still doing voicers for WLS today, (and countless other stations in the USA and Canada) from his California studios ("from under the Hollywood sign"). I enjoyed listening to WLS Rewind last night, after listening to WABC Rewound during the day. It was some great radio for sure. I can't wait for next year! Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Tue, 5/27/08, Bill O'Neill wrote: > From: Bill O'Neill > Subject: WLS > To: "Boston Radio Interest" > Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 2:16 PM > I listened in to the WLS rewind deal until slightly after > 11p (10p CT). > Then I clicked off ASAP. The final jock of the day was the > big-boy vo > guy that WLS is using now. Two words: absolutely pathetic. > Great > voice? Oh sure. Comparable jock? Put it this way, he is > right up there > with Barry (Greg Brady) Williams on PM drive on Sirius 70s. > (Mother, > mother make it stop.) So not-funny, stuffy not-funny, > stilted > not-funny, uncomfortable not-funny, wow-I-can-hit-posts not > funny. File > under: Under Absolutely do NOT quit your day job. > > And I'd say the overall award goes to a retro-news guy > Gil Gross (KGO > SF). Other than that I have no opinion on the subject > . > > Bill O'Neill > > -- > I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a > toaster and a radio. > /Rodney Dangerfield/ From billohno@gmail.com Tue May 27 15:14:22 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 15:14:22 -0400 Subject: WLS In-Reply-To: <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <483C5D8E.7000309@gmail.com> Peter Q. George wrote: > Hi Bill: > > The jock in question was Jeff Davis, a WLS alum since the 1970's. Personally, I thought Jeff did a great job. His lower key approach was just right for the end of this years' WLS Rewind. Now that you (and a couple of buddies off-list) remarked, I am officially switching to half-decaf. Methinks Mr. Davis at least deserved more than a few mere minutes of TSL before I started jumpin' ugly. I can't imagine that it's an easy gig following "Records" even on a good day. Boogie check! Bill O'Neill From radiotest@cox.net Tue May 27 14:42:05 2008 From: radiotest@cox.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:42:05 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum - Radio shack In-Reply-To: <4fc429770805270951x3ce322d7kbcff9ef0da06328a@mail.gmail.co m> References: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809873239CD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <001801c8c00e$5fb65880$6400a8c0@lysthia> <4fc429770805270951x3ce322d7kbcff9ef0da06328a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080527142816.0389d340@cox.net> At 12:51 PM 5/27/2008, Kevin Vahey wrote: >Anything with the Realistic lable was pure junk. I disagree. Many products sold under that label have been and are rebranded items made by major manufacturers. I have a "Realistic" portable SW radio that is actually a Sangean, and "Realistic" scanners that are actually made by Uniden/Bearcat and General Research of Electronics (GRE). My first digital multimeter came from Radio Shack and was a rebranded Sinclair PDM35. I still own all of those items, and they all still work, including the VOM which is about 30 years old. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From kvahey@comcast.net Tue May 27 15:55:34 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:55:34 -0500 Subject: WLS In-Reply-To: <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com> <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com> I recall WRKO doing this about 10 years ago. I don't suppose it has occurred to Julie and Jason that New Englanders would enjoy a trip back in time. Dorman probably would not be allowed to do it or even asked but JJ, Arnie, Knapp and Frank Kingston Smith alone could provide a nice lineup. From billohno@gmail.com Tue May 27 16:04:26 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:04:26 -0400 Subject: WLS In-Reply-To: <4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com> References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com> <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <483C694A.6000700@gmail.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: > I don't suppose it has occurred to Julie and Jason that New Englanders > would enjoy a trip back in time. > So long as the 'RKO front office stays home that day - things could work out very well for Boomers from Beantown. And I don't see why Dorman couldn't be given the nod for old times sake. He would be missed. And it would only boost his brand. Bill O'Neill From Joe@attorneyross.com Tue May 27 17:06:59 2008 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:06:59 -0500 Subject: That infernal hum - Radio shack In-Reply-To: <003501c8c01b$cea551d0$6400a8c0@lysthia> References: <4fc429770805270951x3ce322d7kbcff9ef0da06328a@mail.gmail.com>, <003501c8c01b$cea551d0$6400a8c0@lysthia> Message-ID: <483C31A3.8810.43E7AA@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 27 May 2008 Brian Vita wrote: > I don't know if you've been in any of their stores recently but > they've been remerchandising them. Anything unique and useful, such > as components, connectors, etc. is just about gone. They've become > just another cell phone and consumer TV/Radio store. I tend to go to You Do It Electronics in Needham for a lot of those things now. Radio Shack isn't very useful, and they're very annoying in the way they try to push things that I have no intention of buying. A couple of years ago, they were selling this combo phonograph, radio, tape player, with a retro look. A great device for playing old phonograph records. It even played 78s. I'm a little wary of those things, since I remember the retro solid state cathedral radios back in the 1980s that sounded awful. But what I found offensive was when I was looking at the combo, a week or two before Father's Day, and a sales person came over and suggested that it might make a great gift for my father. I suppose I should have been flattered that she thought I still looked young enough to have a father still living, but since he's been gone since 1989, I wasn't at all amused. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From Joe@attorneyross.com Tue May 27 17:07:00 2008 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:07:00 -0500 Subject: That infernal hum In-Reply-To: References: <483A0440.14098.296948B@joe.attorneyross.com>, Message-ID: <483C31A4.28986.43EA4A@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 27 May 2008 thomas heathwood wrote: > Joe - Sorry you are still having troubles with your attempts to hook > up a dubbing route to your computer. In addition to what I mentioned > last time, you must understand that the "mike input" is NOT going to > match your attempted connection of the stereo output. Your gain and > equalization will both be incorrect. So I've ascertained. I hope that a USB sound card with a line in jack will make it possible for me to use my laptop. Then I can put the two devices side by side and, hopefully, make this thing work. It's too much of a pain in the ass to move the desk PC into the livingroom. The headphones jack on the stereo is the jack that I've been using. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Tue May 27 16:12:57 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:12:57 -0400 Subject: That infernal hum - Radio shack In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080527142816.0389d340@cox.net> References: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809873239CD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <001801c8c00e$5fb65880$6400a8c0@lysthia> <4fc429770805270951x3ce322d7kbcff9ef0da06328a@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080527142816.0389d340@cox.net> Message-ID: <483C6B49.8060801@ttlc.net> Dale H. Cook wrote: > I disagree. Many products sold under that label have been and are > rebranded items made by major manufacturers. A few years ago, Radio Shack's Highball unidirectional PA mike was mfg by Shure Brothers - and was labeled as such. From kvahey@comcast.net Tue May 27 16:33:48 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 15:33:48 -0500 Subject: WLS In-Reply-To: <483C694A.6000700@gmail.com> References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com> <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com> <483C694A.6000700@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770805271333w2c4268f1m5d533dc367e00ff0@mail.gmail.com> I am sure WODS wouldn't mind Dorman but Entercom would most likely get cold feet. Somewhere in the big studio in the sky the best board op of the all would be watching. Chet Kelly despised the music but what an op he was. Another great op was Pete Fasciano who JJ dubbed the master of the pattern change. From billohno@gmail.com Tue May 27 17:01:43 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:01:43 -0400 Subject: Pattern Changes and You (was: WLS) In-Reply-To: <4fc429770805271333w2c4268f1m5d533dc367e00ff0@mail.gmail.com> References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com> <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com> <483C694A.6000700@gmail.com> <4fc429770805271333w2c4268f1m5d533dc367e00ff0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <483C76B7.5090604@gmail.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: > Another great op was Pete Fasciano who JJ dubbed the master of the > pattern change. > Back at WCAP (980 Lowell) the late Ike Cohen, owner/GM, was persnickety about poorly place pattern changes. The carrier cut is just over a second but it was enough to rip him, especially if during a spot. If it was the top hour change it was easy since the only thing lost was part of "the tone". It was just a quirk of his. One mildly memorable Satdee morning at 0715 I said something stupid (oh, really?) like "So long, Brockton (or something like that)... ...Hello Henneker." Ike came in (as he rarely did) but he was smiling as he walked through master control so it remained in the arsenal under occasional use. Ike's background was in engineering (WHN and others) so technical details mattered. And pity the poor slob who broke ranks and dared to open the studio window while the AC was running. That was about the only thing that would inspire Ike to dispatch with delegating and to personally 'share feelings.' Not pleasant. I'm sure there are other 980 alums lurking about who would concur. Bill O'Neill From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Tue May 27 17:22:40 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:22:40 -0400 Subject: WLS References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com><783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >I recall WRKO doing this about 10 years ago. If I recall correctly... WRKO did it with the likes of Howie Carr and other contemporaries. They featured music from 1968....but no jocks of any relevance. From kvahey@comcast.net Tue May 27 17:31:14 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:31:14 -0500 Subject: Pattern Changes and You (was: WLS) In-Reply-To: <483C76B7.5090604@gmail.com> References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com> <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com> <483C694A.6000700@gmail.com> <4fc429770805271333w2c4268f1m5d533dc367e00ff0@mail.gmail.com> <483C76B7.5090604@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770805271431v58e56b7bv1293acdd203a0d4e@mail.gmail.com> It drives me nuts how sloppy WEEI is with the pattern change. CLUNK There is no excuse for a station with a talk format. From francini@mac.com Tue May 27 18:11:02 2008 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:11:02 -0400 Subject: Pattern Changes and You (was: WLS) In-Reply-To: <4fc429770805271431v58e56b7bv1293acdd203a0d4e@mail.gmail.com> References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com> <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com> <483C694A.6000700@gmail.com> <4fc429770805271333w2c4268f1m5d533dc367e00ff0@mail.gmail.com> <483C76B7.5090604@gmail.com> <4fc429770805271431v58e56b7bv1293acdd203a0d4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: How much control/foreknowledge does the on-air staff (or even the board op, these days) have of the pattern change? Is it fully automated on stations like WEEI? If so, you won't necessarily know when it's going to happen without consulting an ephemerides table... j On 27 May 2008, at 17:31, Kevin Vahey wrote: > It drives me nuts how sloppy WEEI is with the pattern change. CLUNK > There is no excuse for a station with a talk format. From aerie.ma@comcast.net Tue May 27 18:41:37 2008 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:41:37 -0400 Subject: Pattern Changes and You (was: WLS) In-Reply-To: References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com><783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com><4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com><483C694A.6000700@gmail.com><4fc429770805271333w2c4268f1m5d533dc367e00ff0@mail.gmail.com><483C76B7.5090604@gmail.com><4fc429770805271431v58e56b7bv1293acdd203a0d4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c8c04a$d33dba50$3ffe3d18@aeriema> Jess Cain used to have fun with the pattern change in the morning. He'd say "stand by while the engineer in Needham goes out and rotates the swamp" or "those of you in Framingham who can't hear us now...hold on a minute". It was always a very noticeable thing: the carrier would drop completely for a couple seconds (sometimes I would even hear KOA briefly). There is a picture of the phasor controls at http://www.fybush.com/Tower%20Site/040528/weei-phasorcontrol.jpg and it almost looks like someone has to walk up to it and turn the knob (though I'm not sure that is the current control...it may be an old one). -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of John Francini Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:11 PM To: Kevin Vahey Cc: Boston Radio Interest; radiojunkie@yahoo.com; Bill O'Neill Subject: Re: Pattern Changes and You (was: WLS) How much control/foreknowledge does the on-air staff (or even the board op, these days) have of the pattern change? Is it fully automated on stations like WEEI? If so, you won't necessarily know when it's going to happen without consulting an ephemerides table... j On 27 May 2008, at 17:31, Kevin Vahey wrote: > It drives me nuts how sloppy WEEI is with the pattern change. CLUNK > There is no excuse for a station with a talk format. From kvahey@comcast.net Tue May 27 18:16:46 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:16:46 -0500 Subject: Pattern Changes and You (was: WLS) In-Reply-To: References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com> <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com> <483C694A.6000700@gmail.com> <4fc429770805271333w2c4268f1m5d533dc367e00ff0@mail.gmail.com> <483C76B7.5090604@gmail.com> <4fc429770805271431v58e56b7bv1293acdd203a0d4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770805271516h1c90d714w2d58d9060c72672a@mail.gmail.com> That is my point. WEEI isn't automated. Say it is summer and it is supposed to be at 8:15. It will happen anytime between 12 to 18 past the hour. On 5/27/08, John Francini wrote: > How much control/foreknowledge does the on-air staff (or even the > board op, these days) have of the pattern change? Is it fully > automated on stations like WEEI? If so, you won't necessarily know > when it's going to happen without consulting an ephemerides table... > > j > > > On 27 May 2008, at 17:31, Kevin Vahey wrote: > >> It drives me nuts how sloppy WEEI is with the pattern change. CLUNK >> There is no excuse for a station with a talk format. > > From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue May 27 19:34:39 2008 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 19:34:39 -0400 Subject: Pattern Changes and You (was: WLS) References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com><783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com><4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com><483C694A.6000700@gmail.com><4fc429770805271333w2c4268f1m5d533dc367e00ff0@mail.gmail.com><483C76B7.5090604@gmail.com><4fc429770805271431v58e56b7bv1293acdd203a0d4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003701c8c052$3cb7d130$0401a8c0@Family> John queried: > How much control/foreknowledge does the on-air staff (or even the board > op, these days) have of the pattern change? Is it fully automated on > stations like WEEI? If so, you won't necessarily know when it's going to > happen without consulting an ephemerides table... > Nowadays, if a station is on any kind of a delay (be it intentional due to talk programming or unintentional due to "HD Broadcasting"), it doesn't matter much when, as the pattern will change whenever it needs to thanks to pre-programmed computer controls... the personnel in-studio or at the controls are forced to monitor real-time "program" as opposed to now-delayed off-air. it's got to be almost impossible to properly judge a "break," intentional or otherwise, to facilitate an un-noticeable pattern change. Many stations are equipped with remote-metering and auto-adjustment transmitter features, although as an "OOD," i still need to verify sunrise pattern change for two AM stations in our building each weekday morning. - -Chuck Igo ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Francini" To: "Kevin Vahey" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" ; ; "Bill O'Neill" Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Pattern Changes and You (was: WLS) > > On 27 May 2008, at 17:31, Kevin Vahey wrote: > >> It drives me nuts how sloppy WEEI is with the pattern change. CLUNK >> There is no excuse for a station with a talk format. From kvahey@comcast.net Tue May 27 20:00:02 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 19:00:02 -0500 Subject: Pattern Changes and You (was: WLS) In-Reply-To: <003701c8c052$3cb7d130$0401a8c0@Family> References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com> <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com> <483C694A.6000700@gmail.com> <4fc429770805271333w2c4268f1m5d533dc367e00ff0@mail.gmail.com> <483C76B7.5090604@gmail.com> <4fc429770805271431v58e56b7bv1293acdd203a0d4e@mail.gmail.com> <003701c8c052$3cb7d130$0401a8c0@Family> Message-ID: <4fc429770805271700q19d3a6f6jbeb1a39dd78f9aa4@mail.gmail.com> how silly of me to forget about the 7 second delay..... Sometimes WRKO forgets to shut the delay off during a Sox game much to the delight of fans at Fenway with radios. Last year I was sitting next to a fan who was upset his radio was 15 seconds behind the action and I noticed he had a XM portable. From lglavin@mail.com Tue May 27 17:55:27 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:55:27 -0500 Subject: New Pix Needed Message-ID: <20080527215527.7CCAA4791C3@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> My travels on the holiday had me driving on route 128 in the western suburbs; so since I was alreading expending humongus amounts of cash for gas anyway, I decided to make a side trip to the WUNR/WRCA/WKOX complex in Oak Hill Park to observe any changes since my last visit. Well, for one thing, the house trailer is gone, and another, a new HUGE green transformer has been installed on a concrete platform. So it may be time for Mike Fitzpatrick at NECRAT and for Garrett to put up new pix that reflect these minor changes. (BTW, I also noted that these days WTTT-AM 1150 IS performing a pattern switch at 8:00 pm.) -- Mail.com Autos- Powered by Oncars.com: Drive By Today! http://www.oncars.com From lspin@comcast.net Tue May 27 22:14:35 2008 From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 22:14:35 -0400 Subject: Memoirs of A Shackie (was RE: That infernal hum - Radio shack) In-Reply-To: <483C31A3.8810.43E7AA@Joe.attorneyross.com> References: <4fc429770805270951x3ce322d7kbcff9ef0da06328a@mail.gmail.com>, <003501c8c01b$cea551d0$6400a8c0@lysthia> <483C31A3.8810.43E7AA@Joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <004e01c8c068$93acdb50$bb0691f0$@net> It's been amusing reading all the Radio Shack commentary out here. Back in 1982, I was so hard up for work, I took a job at my local Radio Shack. The pay was horrible (minimum wage + sales commission), but it turned out to be one of the most fun jobs of my life - so far. They would hire people, stick a sales book in their hands and throw them out onto the sales floor. We were not encouraged to provide technical assistance, but were most encouraged to sell, sell, sell! "Would you like to buy a radio to go with your free battery??" And we were seriously frowned-upon if we didn't take names and addresses on every sales ticket. And the brushes with local celebrities was impressive. I had personally met Jack Aynsley, Bob Montgomery and JJ Wright! All were very cool, very gracious individuals who were obviously struck by my slick sales style. -Lou -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of A. Joseph Ross Subject: RE: That infernal hum - Radio shack I tend to go to You Do It Electronics in Needham for a lot of those things now. Radio Shack isn't very useful, and they're very annoying in the way they try to push things that I have no intention of buying. From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue May 27 22:56:32 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 22:56:32 -0400 Subject: New Pix Needed References: <20080527215527.7CCAA4791C3@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: I have been told by a person who works in engineering at one of the three stations that, outside of the building on a concret pad, there will also be (or maybe by now, there already is) an emergency generator that will power all three stations in the event of an ac-power failure. Given the high efficiency of the solid-state transmitters to be used by all three stations, a 150-kW (~200 horesepower) generator would probably be quite adequate, although my source did not indicate the rating or tell me whether this generator would be powered by a diesel engine or one fueled by natural gas. My guess is the latter, since there would then be no need to store a large quantity of a combustable, toxic substance on the property. In any event, because of the City of Newton's draconian regulations, which prohibited enlarging the building, there was no room for the generator inside the building. Presumably, an internal-combustion engine rated for a continuous 200-HP output would be a good deal larger than a 200-HP automobile engine because automobile-engine ratings are for peak power. I would hope that there is room for the storage batteries for the starter motor inside the building. If the batteries must live outside, they would have to be physically quite large to start such an engine in the dead of winter! ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: New Pix Needed My travels on the holiday had me driving on route 128 in the western suburbs; so since I was alreading expending humongus amounts of cash for gas anyway, I decided to make a side trip to the WUNR/WRCA/WKOX complex in Oak Hill Park to observe any changes since my last visit. Well, for one thing, the house trailer is gone, and another, a new HUGE green transformer has been installed on a concrete platform. So it may be time for Mike Fitzpatrick at NECRAT and for Garrett to put up new pix that reflect these minor changes. (BTW, I also noted that these days WTTT-AM 1150 IS performing a pattern switch at 8:00 pm.) -- Mail.com Autos- Powered by Oncars.com: Drive By Today! http://www.oncars.com From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Tue May 27 23:04:12 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 23:04:12 -0400 Subject: Pattern Changes and You In-Reply-To: <483C76B7.5090604@gmail.com> References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com> <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com> <483C694A.6000700@gmail.com> <4fc429770805271333w2c4268f1m5d533dc367e00ff0@mail.gmail.com> <483C76B7.5090604@gmail.com> Message-ID: <483CCBAC.9030900@ttlc.net> Bill O'Neill wrote: > And pity the poor slob who broke ranks and dared to open the studio > window while the AC was running. When I worked at WKTQ South Paris, the transmitter (Gates BC1G) was in the control room. And there was no window. On a summer day, the poor air conditioner strained mightily to keep up. Oh, and the huge clunky Gates Console, Gates Turntable pre-amps, Gates compresser/limiter, Conelrad Receiver and Ampex 601 - they were all toasty-warm tube equipment, too. Only the cart machine (yes "the" cart machine) was transistorized. Lots of heat load for a fine August day. From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed May 28 03:26:47 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 03:26:47 -0400 Subject: Pattern Changes and You In-Reply-To: <483CCBAC.9030900@ttlc.net> References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com> <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com> <483C694A.6000700@gmail.com> <4fc429770805271333w2c4268f1m5d533dc367e00ff0@mail.gmail.com> <483C76B7.5090604@gmail.com> <483CCBAC.9030900@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80805280026i2951c3bfs394d4a6f10e4cd05@mail.gmail.com> When the RCA BTA1M died, I almost ended upo with a Gates BC1G.. but instead, got a Gates BC1H here at WABV. That RCA BTA1-M was a blessing on the winter, but it made summer HELL and then some when the AC didn't work right. the Gates BC1H doesn't generate as much heat Paul Walker WABV (12/2006 to 5/2008) On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Roger Kirk wrote: > > > Bill O'Neill wrote: > >> And pity the poor slob who broke ranks and dared to open the studio window >> while the AC was running. >> > When I worked at WKTQ South Paris, the transmitter (Gates BC1G) was in the > control room. And there was no window. On a summer day, the poor air > conditioner strained mightily to keep up. Oh, and the huge clunky Gates > Console, Gates Turntable pre-amps, Gates compresser/limiter, Conelrad > Receiver and Ampex 601 - they were all toasty-warm tube equipment, too. > Only the cart machine (yes "the" cart machine) was transistorized. Lots of > heat load for a fine August day. > > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.radio-talk.net http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Wed May 28 10:17:22 2008 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:17:22 +0000 Subject: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) Message-ID: <483D6972.8000107@Gmail.com> I noticed last night at 9:15pm that WHDH-7 was rather snowy up here on the North Shore (related to yesterday afternoon's electrical storm??more accurate description than "thunderstorm" P=)???). Then this morning around 5:45am WSBK-38 also seemed snowy, though now they are back to normal/full strength. While I think they ('HDH) are at reduced power, are they one of the channels that are going to revert their DTV channel to their analog, and maybe they are doing some xmtr work or testing DTV on Ch.7? I strongly doubt that is the case, but since a DTV signal does overlay an analog co-channel as "snow", that is a conceivable possibility (though at a co-existent or closely adjacent xmtr site, highly unlikely in this case). ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From joe@attorneyross.com Wed May 28 11:39:11 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:39:11 -0400 Subject: Memoirs of A Shackie (was RE: That infernal hum - Radio shack) In-Reply-To: <004e01c8c068$93acdb50$bb0691f0$@net> References: <4fc429770805270951x3ce322d7kbcff9ef0da06328a@mail.gmail.com>, <483C31A3.8810.43E7AA@Joe.attorneyross.com>, <004e01c8c068$93acdb50$bb0691f0$@net> Message-ID: <483D445F.21304.2ACE84D@joe.attorneyross.com> On 27 May 2008 at 22:14, Lou wrote: > They would hire people, stick a sales book in their hands and throw > them out onto the sales floor. We were not encouraged to provide > technical assistance, but were most encouraged to sell, sell, sell! > "Would you like to buy a radio to go with your free battery??" And we > were seriously frowned-upon if we didn't take names and addresses on > every sales ticket. Which I always refused to give. > And the brushes with local celebrities was impressive. I had > personally met Jack Aynsley, Bob Montgomery and JJ Wright! All were > very cool, very gracious individuals who were obviously struck by my > slick sales style. Just a couple of years ago, at the Coolidge Corner Radio Shack, I overheard a conversation a woman was having with a sales person, about the WEEI traffic helicopter crash back in the early 1980s or so. Turned out the woman was the widow of Chip Whitmore, who was the traffic reporter killed in that crash. She was impressed that I actually remembered the incident, and we had a very interesting conversation. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed May 28 12:27:54 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:27:54 -0400 Subject: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) References: <483D6972.8000107@Gmail.com> Message-ID: <66F41416DC164828AC98B4D93DF018FC@SatU205S5044> Sheesh! I hope not! Antenna problems with over-the-air DTV reception in a very good location (near the top of a hill just north of Route 2 in Arlington--near the Lexington line) are bad enough with just one band to deal with. Of course, the most frustrating problems--getting everything set up and working properly, only to suffer intermittent audio dropouts and pixellation many minutes later--appear to be related to leafy trees swaying in the wind. (After much head scratching and much fruitless moving and rotating of the passive-loop antenna, I concluded that, indeed, the answer was blowing in the wind!) A VHF signal might not exhibit those problems--or at least might mitigate them significantly, but a mixture of VHF and UHF, each requiring its own antenna, in a world of virtual channels (how many people even have a clue about the physical channels?) would be a DISASTER! The worst problems appear to result from a fundamental flaw in the design of the DTV signal/system. The first thing to go is the audio. It clearly should be the last. The video artifacts can be annoying, but the audio dropouts are fatal to following the thread of the content. If the audio were listenable, you could live without the video in most cases; the converse is not true. The geniuses who designed the system should have given the highest priority to the robustness of the audio, but they didn't. What were they thinking? That everyone would have cable service? Not me! And not at least 20% of the audience around here. And because the receivers and converter boxes do not contain provisions for software upgrades, if the ATSC and the FCC ever finally decide that the system needs to be upgraded, there will be no way to upgrade existing hardware at reasonable cost! Can't the FCC EVER do ANYTHING right? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" To: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:17 AM Subject: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) > While I think they ('HDH) are at reduced power, are they one of the > channels that are going to revert their DTV channel to their analog? > > ~Kaimbridge~ From theseacoast@maine.rr.com Wed May 28 10:07:47 2008 From: theseacoast@maine.rr.com (The Seacoast) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:07:47 -0400 Subject: Memoirs of A Shackie (was RE: That infernal hum - Radio shack) In-Reply-To: <004e01c8c068$93acdb50$bb0691f0$@net> References: <4fc429770805270951x3ce322d7kbcff9ef0da06328a@mail.gmail.com>, <003501c8c01b$cea551d0$6400a8c0@lysthia><483C31A3.8810.43E7AA@Joe.attorneyross.com> <004e01c8c068$93acdb50$bb0691f0$@net> Message-ID: <002601c8c0cc$35815970$6501a8c0@vpr1> Hey Lou: Now there's a name from the past....Jack Aynsley! I wonder what ever became of the rest of the ole' WBET/WCAV-FM air staff? John -----Original Message----- From: Lou [mailto:lspin@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:15 PM To: 'A. Joseph Ross'; 'Brian Vita' Cc: bri@bostonradio.org Subject: Memoirs of A Shackie (was RE: That infernal hum - Radio shack) It's been amusing reading all the Radio Shack commentary out here. Back in 1982, I was so hard up for work, I took a job at my local Radio Shack. The pay was horrible (minimum wage + sales commission), but it turned out to be one of the most fun jobs of my life - so far. They would hire people, stick a sales book in their hands and throw them out onto the sales floor. We were not encouraged to provide technical assistance, but were most encouraged to sell, sell, sell! "Would you like to buy a radio to go with your free battery??" And we were seriously frowned-upon if we didn't take names and addresses on every sales ticket. And the brushes with local celebrities was impressive. I had personally met Jack Aynsley, Bob Montgomery and JJ Wright! All were very cool, very gracious individuals who were obviously struck by my slick sales style. -Lou -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of A. Joseph Ross Subject: RE: That infernal hum - Radio shack I tend to go to You Do It Electronics in Needham for a lot of those things now. Radio Shack isn't very useful, and they're very annoying in the way they try to push things that I have no intention of buying. From wollman@bimajority.org Wed May 28 12:56:34 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:56:34 -0400 Subject: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) In-Reply-To: <66F41416DC164828AC98B4D93DF018FC@SatU205S5044> References: <483D6972.8000107@Gmail.com> <66F41416DC164828AC98B4D93DF018FC@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <18493.36546.914004.971831@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Sheesh! I hope not! I'm not sure what you are hoping won't happen, but channel 7 will definitely be staying on 7. See exhibit 4 to their most recent FCC form 387 (BDTRCT-20080215AHT). No other Boston station will be on VHF, but WMUR-TV will be going back to 9 and WENH will be keeping 11; WPRI-TV will be on 13. -GAWollman From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed May 28 13:41:53 2008 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) Message-ID: <910772.64626.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I thought they found that DTV on the VHF band interfered with medical equipment (it happened with an early adopter in Dallas) and on channels 2-6 has very limited range. Is the VHF assigment that important in this day and age of virtual mapping? ----- Original Message ---- From: Garrett Wollman To: Dan.Strassberg Cc: Boston Radio Interest Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 12:56:34 PM Subject: Re: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) < said: > Sheesh! I hope not! I'm not sure what you are hoping won't happen, but channel 7 will definitely be staying on 7.? See exhibit 4 to their most recent FCC form 387 (BDTRCT-20080215AHT).? No other Boston station will be on VHF, but WMUR-TV will be going back to 9 and WENH will be keeping 11; WPRI-TV will be on 13. -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Wed May 28 14:10:16 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:10:16 -0400 Subject: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) In-Reply-To: <910772.64626.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <910772.64626.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <18493.40968.767312.836332@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Is the VHF assigment that important in this day and age of virtual > mapping? When it's the difference between a 10-kW power bill and a 200-kW power bill, apparently so. -GAWollman From lglavin@mail.com Wed May 28 14:32:31 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:32:31 -0500 Subject: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) Message-ID: <20080528183231.D257F478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Garrett Wollman" >To: "Dan.Strassberg" >Subject: Re: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) >Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:56:34 -040 > Sheesh! I hope not! >I'm not sure what you are hoping won't happen, but channel 7 will >definitely be staying on 7. See exhibit 4 to their most recent FCC >form 387 (BDTRCT-20080215AHT). No other Boston station will be on >VHF, but WMUR-TV will be going back to 9 and WENH will be keeping 11; >WPRI-TV will be on 13. >-GAWollman Here's question: can a station now operating in analog on VHF channel 7 keep using its channel 7 transmitting antenna if it reverts to channel 7 for DTV after February 19th? Right now, there's a channel 7 AND a channel 42 antenna atop the Sunbeam Broadcasting standalone tower in Newton. Their co-owned outlet, WLVI-TV, aanalog channel 56, digital channel 41 remains for now on the candelabra tower in nearby Needham. Knowing Sunbeam's propensity to save a buck, could they apply to operate WLVI on channel 42 instead after the transition date, and then utilize the antenna now in place (thus ending the rental costs over on the candelabra)? -- Mail.com Autos- Powered by Oncars.com: Drive By Today! http://www.oncars.com From Joe@attorneyross.com Wed May 28 15:53:32 2008 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:53:32 -0500 Subject: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) In-Reply-To: <66F41416DC164828AC98B4D93DF018FC@SatU205S5044> References: <483D6972.8000107@Gmail.com>, <66F41416DC164828AC98B4D93DF018FC@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <483D71EC.10241.217B3A@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 28 May 2008 Dan.Strassberg wrote: > The worst problems appear to result from a fundamental flaw in the > design of the DTV signal/system. The first thing to go is the audio. > It clearly should be the last. The video artifacts can be annoying, > but the audio dropouts are fatal to following the thread of the > content. If the audio were listenable, you could live without the > video in most cases; the converse is not true. The geniuses who > designed the system should have given the highest priority to the > robustness of the audio, but they didn't. What were they thinking? Probably the same thing as those who design most TV receivers with poor audio: that television is for watching, not listening. Bad idea, but that's the way people have been thinking for years. Probably the last time TV sound got the attention it deserves was when the designers of the original analog TV system made TV sound FM. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From n1qgs@yahoo.com Wed May 28 19:29:03 2008 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Channel 40 Springfield Transmitter Problems ? Message-ID: <631767.79660.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just noticed on WGGB web site Due to technical difficulties with the station's transmitter, our over-the-air signal has been temporarily disrupted. A crew of engineers is working to correct the problem and we hope to be back on the air soon. We apologize for any inconvenience. John B Derry NH From wollman@bimajority.org Wed May 28 20:40:27 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:40:27 -0400 Subject: Pattern Changes and You (was: WLS) In-Reply-To: References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com> <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com> <483C694A.6000700@gmail.com> <4fc429770805271333w2c4268f1m5d533dc367e00ff0@mail.gmail.com> <483C76B7.5090604@gmail.com> <4fc429770805271431v58e56b7bv1293acdd203a0d4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18493.64379.753021.848840@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > How much control/foreknowledge does the on-air staff (or even the > board op, these days) have of the pattern change? Is it fully > automated on stations like WEEI? If so, you won't necessarily know > when it's going to happen without consulting an ephemerides table... Consulting an ephemeris wouldn't help, since the pattern change takes place at FCC sunset (which is an average time over the entire month, rounded to the quarter-hour) and not at astronomical sunset. Many directional AMs have the pattern-change time prominently posted in the air studios. (At least among the ones I've visited.) IBOC and profanity delays certainly make it harder. I can't recall if I've ever seen studios with two clocks, but it would seem an obvious solution to have one studio clock showing real time (to meet network schedules and so on) and one studio clock showing delayed time (for timechecks). -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Thu May 29 00:22:54 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 00:22:54 -0400 Subject: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) In-Reply-To: <910772.64626.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <910772.64626.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <483DF75E.26100.4590D6@joe.attorneyross.com> On 28 May 2008 at 10:41, Maureen Carney wrote: > I thought they found that DTV on the VHF band interfered with medical > equipment (it happened with an early adopter in Dallas) and on > channels 2-6 has very limited range. Is the VHF assigment that > important in this day and age of virtual mapping? I kinda thought that channels 2-6 weren't going to be allowed for DTV broadcasting and would be reassigned to something else after analog television is turned off. It will certainly make for an advertizing advantage if WHDH-TV can keep calling itself Channel 7, while WBZ, WCVB, and WGBH can't use the channel numbers with which they've been identified for so long. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Thu May 29 00:27:31 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 00:27:31 -0400 Subject: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) In-Reply-To: <483DF75E.26100.4590D6@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <910772.64626.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <483DF75E.26100.4590D6@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <18494.12467.824198.37171@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I kinda thought that channels 2-6 weren't going to be allowed for DTV > broadcasting and would be reassigned to something else after analog > television is turned off. Nope. Although it's really not a favorable place to be in the DTV world, so very few stations will be using that spectrum. (On the other hand, it's really not a favorable place to be for anyone else, thanks to sporadic E-layer propagation and lots of QRM, so there will be little incentive for it to be reassigned to other services.) > It will certainly make for an advertizing advantage if WHDH-TV can > keep calling itself Channel 7, while WBZ, WCVB, and WGBH can't use > the channel numbers with which they've been identified for so long. That would be a problem if the RF channel were relevant. Consumers will, with most tuners, have no knowledge of what RF channel the stations they watch are on. -GAWollman From sid@wrko.com Thu May 29 07:01:00 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:01:00 -0400 Subject: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) In-Reply-To: <483DF75E.26100.4590D6@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <910772.64626.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <483DF75E.26100.4590D6@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE8098762F1BB@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>It will certainly make for an advertizing advantage if WHDH-TV can keep calling itself Channel 7, while WBZ, WCVB, and WGBH can't use the channel numbers with which they've been identified for so long.<< Yes they can. The channel number that displays on an HD set is transmitted as part of the data stream and is not necessarily relevant to the channel of RF spectrum which the station is occupying. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From blainethompson@gmail.com Thu May 29 10:03:06 2008 From: blainethompson@gmail.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:03:06 -0400 Subject: Pattern Changes and You (was: WLS) In-Reply-To: <18493.64379.753021.848840@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <483C4FFA.5030808@gmail.com> <783593.4747.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770805271255u7edbdc9fl34fa258f756ac356@mail.gmail.com> <483C694A.6000700@gmail.com> <4fc429770805271333w2c4268f1m5d533dc367e00ff0@mail.gmail.com> <483C76B7.5090604@gmail.com> <4fc429770805271431v58e56b7bv1293acdd203a0d4e@mail.gmail.com> <18493.64379.753021.848840@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <7bded94e0805290703u2f6beddep4e8d0c09eba061fb@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > IBOC and profanity delays certainly make it harder. I can't recall if I've > ever seen studios with two clocks, but it would seem an obvious solution to > have one studio clock showing real time (to meet network schedules and so > on) and one studio clock showing delayed time (for timechecks). > How utterly confusing. I imagine when Robert Lamm wrote "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is" for Chicago in the late 1960's, he never fathomed this. - Blaine From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Thu May 29 12:17:46 2008 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) In-Reply-To: <483D6972.8000107@Gmail.com> Message-ID: <473049.17852.qm@web55803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Based on personal research and several conversations with Fred Lass, CE at WRGB(TV), WHDH will be returning to channel 7 after the DTV transition is complete. As part of this transition they, along with all other TV stations, will have to reduce their OTA transmitter power output to conform to new and significantly lower power authorization rules. These new rules are based on the finding that DTV signals are more receivable at lower power levels than analog [Side note: as I understand, there are some doubts being expressed that these new, lower power levels will not cover the same amount of territory that the analog signals now cover]. Another tidbit I found was that several High-VHF stations will be reducing their analog signal power to the level that will be used post-transition on their DTV signals in the near future. I know WPIX New York will be doing this over the summer, and I would bet WHDH is doing the same thing now. If this is the case, get used to this kind of reception until the dighital transition is complete. Another side note - after the DTV transition is complete, RF channel 7 is gonna be a very crowded frequency in Eastern NY/Western New England. Current occupants WABC-TV (New York), WWNY-TV (Watertown NY), and WHDH are all returning to channel 7. In addition, WXXA (Albany) and WBNG (Binghamton NY) are both moving permanently to channel 7 as well. SHould be interesting to see what kind of DXing will be possible post-transition. Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY --- "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" wrote: > I noticed last night at 9:15pm that WHDH-7 was > rather snowy up here on > the North Shore (related to yesterday afternoon's > electrical > storm??????more accurate description than > "thunderstorm" P=)???????). Then > this morning around 5:45am WSBK-38 also seemed > snowy, though now they > are back to normal/full strength. > While I think they ('HDH) are at reduced power, are > they one of the > channels that are going to revert their DTV channel > to their analog, > and maybe they are doing some xmtr work or testing > DTV on Ch.7? I > strongly doubt that is the case, but since a DTV > signal does overlay > an analog co-channel as "snow", that is a > conceivable possibility > (though at a co-existent or closely adjacent xmtr > site, highly > unlikely in this case). > > ~Kaimbridge~ > > ----- > Wikipedia???Contributor Home Page: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge > > ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per > Customer. ***** > > From wollman@bimajority.org Thu May 29 13:12:06 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:12:06 -0400 Subject: Ch.7 w/Reduced Power (In DTV Transition?) In-Reply-To: <473049.17852.qm@web55803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <483D6972.8000107@Gmail.com> <473049.17852.qm@web55803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <18494.58342.503989.993837@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > As part of this transition they, along with all other TV stations, > will have to reduce their OTA transmitter power output to conform to > new and significantly lower power authorization rules. These new > rules are based on the finding that DTV signals are more receivable > at lower power levels than analog Analog TV facilities are regulated on the basis of *peak* power; the analog signal is at its maximum when the video is blanked during a sync pulse. (This is because analog TV -- except in France -- uses negative video modulation, so the maximum video amplitude represents black.) ATSC signals do not vary much over time, by design, so peak power is not meaningful. Instead, DTV facilities are regulated on *average* power. This accounts for most of the difference in the emission limits. However, the 8VSB modulation used for broadcast ATSC also includes a couple dB of processing gain, which should further reduce the power necessary for replication. -GAWollman From markwats@comcast.net Sat May 31 12:51:41 2008 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 12:51:41 -0400 Subject: Salvation Army Honors Former WCAP Owner Maurice Cohen Message-ID: <001501c8c33e$9a8909c0$0202a8c0@Mark> Today's (Saturday 5/31) Lowell Sun contains an article about the recent annual Lowell Salvation Army Corps Annual Civic Dinner, where former WCAP owner Maurice Cohen was presented the the Salvation Army's "Others" award, the highest honor they bestow on civilians. For 35 years, Maurice Cohen, along with his late brother Ike (who served as a Salvation Army board member for 20 years) raised tens of thousands of dollars via yearly radiothons and special remote broadcasts on WCAP. The radiothons continue under WCAP's new ownership. In fact, one of WCAP's new co-owners, Sam Poulten, represented 5th District Congresswoman Niki Tsongas and presented Maurice with a Congressional citation. The article can be found on the Lowell Sun's website: http://www.lowellsun.com/religion/ci_9437595 Mark Watson From billohno@gmail.com Sat May 31 15:58:09 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 15:58:09 -0400 Subject: Salvation Army Honors Former WCAP Owner Maurice Cohen In-Reply-To: <001501c8c33e$9a8909c0$0202a8c0@Mark> References: <001501c8c33e$9a8909c0$0202a8c0@Mark> Message-ID: <4841ADD1.7060900@gmail.com> Congratulations to Maurice Cohen. He and his late brother were intrinsically involved in the Christmas drive. Contrary to the new WCAP website information, the radiothon goes back even before the early 1980s when I became involved, under the direction of PD Joe Corcoran. There were many non-Salvation Army members who really turned out for the event. The real heroes were the ones who were behind the scenes, etc. Back then, 20K or so was not uncommon and that was almost all from one, fives and tens, with very little from corporate giving. The brothers would turn over the whole station, including front offices, phones, to volunteers and the station would run spot-free from 6a to 7p wall to wall. One of the more memorable ones I recall was the day after Malden Mills burned. Many of the SA members responded to that - who would have been at the station - IIRC, the giving was at record levels that day. Typically, I anchored the last 3 hours or so (and got more credit than I deserved for it). The most memorable things would be the unsolicited testimonial calls from folks with their story of how the SA helped them and their kids at Christmas, crises during the year, etc. Those were the calls that you would just let go while you shut up and listened. Bill O'Neill Mark Watson wrote: > Today's (Saturday 5/31) Lowell Sun contains an article about the > recent annual Lowell Salvation Army Corps Annual Civic Dinner, where > former WCAP owner Maurice Cohen was presented the the Salvation Army's > "Others" award, the highest honor they bestow on civilians. For 35 > years, Maurice Cohen, along with his late brother Ike (who served as a > Salvation Army board member for 20 years) raised tens of thousands of > dollars via yearly radiothons and special remote broadcasts on WCAP. > The radiothons continue under WCAP's new ownership. In fact, one of > WCAP's new co-owners, Sam Poulten, represented 5th District > Congresswoman Niki Tsongas and presented Maurice with a Congressional > citation. > > The article can be found on the Lowell Sun's website: > > http://www.lowellsun.com/religion/ci_9437595 > > Mark Watson > From lglavin@mail.com Sat May 31 14:45:32 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 13:45:32 -0500 Subject: WBUR's "On Point" Expands To Two Hours On WNYC-AM Message-ID: <20080531184532.8823B11581F@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> In case you didn't hear or read: a program called "Fair Game' that aired nightly on WNYC-AM *820 in NYC has been cancelled. A tape-delayed version of WBUR's "On Point" will be expanded to its full two-hour version starting June 2nd. Now anybody who calls Tom Ashbrook during either segment can be a radio star in the Big Apple too! *BTW: I have a Vane A. Jones Radio Directory that includes a cp for WNYC-AM to boost its power to 50,000 watts on its longtime frequency of 830...why did they flip to 820 and jostle with WGY north of The City? -- Mail.com Autos- Powered by Oncars.com: Drive By Today! http://www.oncars.com From jscavo@maine.rr.com Sat May 31 19:04:21 2008 From: jscavo@maine.rr.com (John) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 19:04:21 -0400 Subject: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye Message-ID: <000001c8c372$a9910240$6501a8c0@vpr1> Not sure why or what is happening at 106.5 FM, but WMEX's Gary James is running spots that Monday at 10 AM, WMEX is going off the air for good! Tonight, WMEX is running a final dance party in Rochester free for listeners. This is very sad, as WMEX will be missed (by me at least). Earlier today, Gary was live, and playing all the great "deep" tunes that will really be lost forever. Songs even they didn't play normally. SS From wollman@bimajority.org Sat May 31 22:54:03 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:54:03 -0400 Subject: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye In-Reply-To: <000001c8c372$a9910240$6501a8c0@vpr1> References: <000001c8c372$a9910240$6501a8c0@vpr1> Message-ID: <18498.3915.986066.467403@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Not sure why or what is happening at 106.5 FM, but WMEX's Gary James is > running spots that Monday at 10 AM, WMEX is going off the air for good! Faithful NERW readers will recall from the February 4 issue that Dennis Jackson is selling the station to (ack, spit) EMF, for $1 million. -GAWollman From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat May 31 22:50:02 2008 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:50:02 -0400 Subject: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye In-Reply-To: <000001c8c372$a9910240$6501a8c0@vpr1> Message-ID: <021801c8c392$311bb4c0$6400a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > Not sure why or what is happening at 106.5 FM, but WMEX's Gary James is > running spots that Monday at 10 AM, WMEX is going off the air for good! > Tonight, WMEX is running a final dance party in Rochester free for > listeners. This is very sad, as WMEX will be missed (by me at least). > Earlier today, Gary was live, and playing all the great "deep" tunes that > will really be lost forever. Songs even they didn't play normally. Unfortunately it was announced a couple months ago that the station was being sold to K-Love, a 100% satellite fed contemporary Christian music station. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat May 31 23:23:34 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:23:34 -0400 Subject: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye In-Reply-To: <18498.3915.986066.467403@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <000001c8c372$a9910240$6501a8c0@vpr1> <18498.3915.986066.467403@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:54 PM Subject: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye > Faithful NERW readers will recall from the February 4 issue that > Dennis Jackson is selling the station to (ack, spit) EMF, for $1 > million. EMF is also taking over their recent major purchase on Monday. From scott@fybush.com Sat May 31 23:34:05 2008 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:34:05 -0400 Subject: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye In-Reply-To: References: <000001c8c372$a9910240$6501a8c0@vpr1> <18498.3915.986066.467403@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <484218AD.6070302@fybush.com> Dan Billings wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" > > To: > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:54 PM > Subject: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye > >> Faithful NERW readers will recall from the February 4 issue that >> Dennis Jackson is selling the station to (ack, spit) EMF, for $1 >> million. > > EMF is also taking over their recent major purchase on Monday. That being WCYI in Lewiston, Maine? s From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat May 31 23:45:53 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:45:53 -0400 Subject: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye In-Reply-To: References: <000001c8c372$a9910240$6501a8c0@vpr1><18498.3915.986066.467403@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <27E2B86E7B494A3E9FD5D2653D03822B@DanBillingsPC> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Billings" To: "Garrett Wollman" ; Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 11:23 PM Subject: Re: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye > EMF is also taking over their recent major purchase on Monday. I meant to type their recent Maine purchase -- 93.9 WCYI. From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sat May 31 22:56:31 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:56:31 -0400 Subject: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye In-Reply-To: <18498.3915.986066.467403@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <000001c8c372$a9910240$6501a8c0@vpr1> <18498.3915.986066.467403@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80805311956j23a3737cma93927bba09ab50b@mail.gmail.com> I had heard Gary James was actually in the hospital a few weeks ago. Paul On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > Not sure why or what is happening at 106.5 FM, but WMEX's Gary James is > > running spots that Monday at 10 AM, WMEX is going off the air for good! > > Faithful NERW readers will recall from the February 4 issue that > Dennis Jackson is selling the station to (ack, spit) EMF, for $1 > million. > > -GAWollman > > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.radio-talk.net http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sat May 31 22:50:50 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:50:50 -0400 Subject: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye In-Reply-To: <000001c8c372$a9910240$6501a8c0@vpr1> References: <000001c8c372$a9910240$6501a8c0@vpr1> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80805311950i4df9cb75ie13f93603a83adeb@mail.gmail.com> Gary James was live? Are you sure it was him live and not pre-recorded or someone else from the station like their General Sales Manager Gene Valle? I had heard Gary was no longer at the station Anyways, WMEX was sold and is picking up the KLove satelitte format next week. Paul On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 7:04 PM, John wrote: > Not sure why or what is happening at 106.5 FM, but WMEX's Gary James is > running spots that Monday at 10 AM, WMEX is going off the air for good! > Tonight, WMEX is running a final dance party in Rochester free for > listeners. This is very sad, as WMEX will be missed (by me at least). > Earlier today, Gary was live, and playing all the great "deep" tunes that > will really be lost forever. Songs even they didn't play normally. > > > > SS > > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.radio-talk.net http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From kvahey@comcast.net Sat May 31 23:39:38 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:39:38 -0500 Subject: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye In-Reply-To: <484218AD.6070302@fybush.com> References: <000001c8c372$a9910240$6501a8c0@vpr1> <18498.3915.986066.467403@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <484218AD.6070302@fybush.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770805312039v22651219kb1e12c5861df7d17@mail.gmail.com> so any bets on where the WMEX call letters go next? Heck if WWZN went True Oldies and crabbed the calls they would increase listener ship tenfold.