From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sun Jun 1 04:18:18 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 04:18:18 -0400 Subject: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye In-Reply-To: <4fc429770805312039v22651219kb1e12c5861df7d17@mail.gmail.com> References: <000001c8c372$a9910240$6501a8c0@vpr1> <18498.3915.986066.467403@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <484218AD.6070302@fybush.com> <4fc429770805312039v22651219kb1e12c5861df7d17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80806010118n2ca9d6dfw7885bd0295751382@mail.gmail.com> WWZN going True Oldies? FAT CHANCE... you have a better chance of winning the lottery then that happening. Davidson Media aka Blackstrap Media, the owner of WWZN does nothing more then leading the airtime, you pay we play..nothing ore, nothing less.. and I doubt anyone would have the money to pay the lease bill on WWZN and keep things going. With that kinda money, they could find much better opportunities in the area. Then again, WOLT 103.3 Greer, SC another Davidson station is oldies.. and it's all brokered. Paul On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > so any bets on where the WMEX call letters go next? > > Heck if WWZN went True Oldies and crabbed the calls they would > increase listener ship tenfold. > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.radio-talk.net http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From theseacoast@maine.rr.com Sun Jun 1 10:10:13 2008 From: theseacoast@maine.rr.com (The Seacoast) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 10:10:13 -0400 Subject: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80805311950i4df9cb75ie13f93603a83adeb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000e01c8c3f1$36235900$6e01a8c0@hpomnibook2> These days it is tough to say "live" with 100% uncertainty, but I would say yes, as he kept saying stuff like "this is the last time you will hear this classic on WMEX, as Monday at 10 AM, we will go off the air". He did not sound like he was voice tracking. John -----Original Message----- From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. [mailto:walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:51 PM To: jscavo@maine.rr.com Cc: Boston-Radio-Interest@Bostonradio. Org Subject: Re: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye Gary James was live? Are you sure it was him live and not pre-recorded or someone else from the station like their General Sales Manager Gene Valle? I had heard Gary was no longer at the station Anyways, WMEX was sold and is picking up the KLove satelitte format next week. Paul From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jun 1 12:31:26 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 12:31:26 -0400 Subject: WBUR's "On Point" Expands To Two Hours On WNYC-AM References: <20080531184532.8823B11581F@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: AFAIK, WNYC (AM)'s increase to 50 kW on 830 was an application--never a CP. The FCC shot it out of the water, and for good reason, it appears. I'm pretty sure that WNYC proposed a diplex with WMCA for its 50 kW operation on 830, just like the one it uses on 820. Now look at WNYC's augmented night pattern. Lotta radiation to the northwest--WAY more than in the calculated pattern. That radiation must be the result of re-radiation from the Pulaski Skyway bridge that abuts the WMCA/WNYC site. WNYC's CP for 820 originally specified 5 kW-N. However, after more than a year of playing with the pattern, WNYC's engineers had to back off to 1 kW-N because Canada had dropped CHAM onto 820 and with 5 kW. WNYC's extra radiation to the northwest would have seriously interfered with the Hamilton ON station. The reduction in night power must have necessitated a waiver of the requirement to deliver an NIF signal to at least 80% of the population of New York City. Were the Class IA station that WNYC had to protect been WCCO rather than WBAP, it's unclear how the problem could have been solved. Even a reduction to 250W would not have adequately protected WCCO; maybe something could have been worked out by moving WNYC to the WBBR site, which I believe was still the WNEW (AM) site at that time. BTW, WNYC's move to 820 wiped out an application for a high-powered AM 820 on the South Shore (Weymouth or Hingham, maybe). The FCC designated the local 820 app for a consolidated hearing with WNYC's app. The death of the MA 820 app ultimately made way for WCRN. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:45 PM Subject: WBUR's "On Point" Expands To Two Hours On WNYC-AM In case you didn't hear or read: a program called "Fair Game' that aired nightly on WNYC-AM *820 in NYC has been cancelled. A tape-delayed version of WBUR's "On Point" will be expanded to its full two-hour version starting June 2nd. Now anybody who calls Tom Ashbrook during either segment can be a radio star in the Big Apple too! *BTW: I have a Vane A. Jones Radio Directory that includes a cp for WNYC-AM to boost its power to 50,000 watts on its longtime frequency of 830...why did they flip to 820 and jostle with WGY north of The City? -- Mail.com Autos- Powered by Oncars.com: Drive By Today! http://www.oncars.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jun 1 12:46:19 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 12:46:19 -0400 Subject: Punctuation erro in previous post changed the meaning References: <20080531184532.8823B11581F@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <25B09DE6D1AE4F5BA7989DEA3D09AAAE@SatU205S5044> Line 11 SHOULD read: onto 820, and with 5 kW, WNYC's extra radiation to the northwest would The combination of a missing comma and the substitution of a period for a comma changed my meaning. Sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "Laurence Glavin" ; Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: WBUR's "On Point" Expands To Two Hours On WNYC-AM > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurence Glavin" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:45 PM > Subject: WBUR's "On Point" Expands To Two Hours On WNYC-AM > > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sun Jun 1 20:56:09 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:56:09 -0400 Subject: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye In-Reply-To: <000e01c8c3f1$36235900$6e01a8c0@hpomnibook2> References: <8bce0fe80805311950i4df9cb75ie13f93603a83adeb@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c8c3f1$36235900$6e01a8c0@hpomnibook2> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80806011756h4735f400lff95ecd80d42f80c@mail.gmail.com> Ah, well I Spoke to some of my friends up that way and found out it really was him.. I wasn't expecting to be back up and on the air so soon.. but yes, it is sad that WMEX-FM is disappearing again. However, I can't fault Dennis Jackson for a good business decision and the ability to turn a decent profit. Paul On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:10 AM, The Seacoast wrote: > These days it is tough to say "live" with 100% uncertainty, but I would > say yes, as he kept saying stuff like "this is the last time you will hear > this classic on WMEX, as Monday at 10 AM, we will go off the air". He did > not sound like he was voice tracking. > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Paul B. Walker, Jr. [mailto:walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:51 PM > *To:* jscavo@maine.rr.com > *Cc:* Boston-Radio-Interest@Bostonradio. Org > *Subject:* Re: WMEX-FM is saying good-bye > > > > Gary James was live? Are you sure it was him live and not pre-recorded or > someone else from the station like their General Sales Manager Gene Valle? > > I had heard Gary was no longer at the station > > > > Anyways, WMEX was sold and is picking up the KLove satelitte format next > week. > > > > Paul > > > > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.radio-talk.net http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From billohno@gmail.com Mon Jun 2 10:37:57 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:37:57 -0400 Subject: WCMF ... CoMFy chairs? Message-ID: <484405C4.70104@gmail.com> Did you check out Scott Fybush NERW yet? He has a photo of a WCMF studio. It's replete with the host at a table and three, yes three others sitting in what look to be recliners! If I had a day to give likely unheeded advise there one of my suggestions would be to open that big window there and toss those suckers outta there. Not that I've ever heard the show, and it may be a barrel of laughs, fraught with high energy and unstrained voices, but, hey, I'm just sayin'. Sit up! You've got a great gig! Bill O'Neill -- I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio. /Rodney Dangerfield/ From m_carney@yahoo.com Mon Jun 2 14:35:10 2008 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ Message-ID: <868031.27201.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> The story is just breaking on the Boston Herald website: http://www.bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1098164&pos=breaking Also Scott Wahle signed off on Friday- any bets how long the TV38 newcast will last now? From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Jun 2 15:05:23 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:05:23 -0400 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <868031.27201.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0K1U006VWNPCGPB1@smtpin126.mac.com> -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Carney Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:35 PM To: Boston Radio Group Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ The story is just breaking on the Boston Herald website: http://www.bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1098164&pos=bre aking It has been on the Boston TV News MSN group for several days. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jun 2 15:16:48 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:16:48 -0500 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <0K1U006VWNPCGPB1@smtpin126.mac.com> References: <868031.27201.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <0K1U006VWNPCGPB1@smtpin126.mac.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770806021216j4dcad859habfd5eb638409cb1@mail.gmail.com> If this keeps up there will be nobody left at 1170 SFR that knows I95 is 128. Will Jack Williams be next? On 6/2/08, Larry Weil wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Maureen Carney > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:35 PM > To: Boston Radio Group > Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ > > The story is just breaking on the Boston Herald website: > http://www.bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1098164&pos=bre > aking > > It has been on the Boston TV News MSN group for several days. > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > > > > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Mon Jun 2 15:40:42 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:40:42 -0400 Subject: WCMF ... CoMFy chairs? In-Reply-To: <484405C4.70104@gmail.com> References: <484405C4.70104@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80806021240x53b8c181l51598bdd883e1bd5@mail.gmail.com> And what is so wrong with how/where they're sitting that they should be tossed outta there? By your own remark, you've never heard the show (and neither have I) so you have no place to say anything like that. Paul On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Bill O'Neill wrote: > Did you check out Scott Fybush NERW yet? He has a photo of a WCMF studio. > It's replete with the host at a table and three, yes three others sitting in > what look to be recliners! If I had a day to give likely unheeded advise > there one of my suggestions would be to open that big window there and toss > those suckers outta there. Not that I've ever heard the show, and it may be > a barrel of laughs, fraught with high energy and unstrained voices, but, > hey, I'm just sayin'. Sit up! You've got a great gig! > > Bill O'Neill > -- > I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio. > /Rodney Dangerfield/ > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.radio-talk.net http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From m_carney@yahoo.com Mon Jun 2 15:44:09 2008 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ Message-ID: <659875.76319.qm@web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Or who can't pronounce Worcester. So WBZ was #1 at 11P in the last sweeps - how much of that was people just waiting to see when Lobel's last day would be? ----- Original Message ---- From: Kevin Vahey To: Larry Weil Cc: Maureen Carney ; Boston Radio Group Sent: Monday, June 2, 2008 3:16:48 PM Subject: Re: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ If this keeps up there will be nobody left at 1170 SFR that knows I95 is 128. Will Jack Williams be next? On 6/2/08, Larry Weil wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Maureen Carney > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:35 PM > To: Boston Radio Group > Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ > > The story is just breaking on the Boston Herald website: > http://www.bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1098164&pos=bre > aking > > It has been on the Boston TV News MSN group for several days. > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > > > > From billohno@gmail.com Mon Jun 2 15:53:20 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:53:20 -0400 Subject: WCMF ... CoMFy chairs? In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80806021240x53b8c181l51598bdd883e1bd5@mail.gmail.com> References: <484405C4.70104@gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021240x53b8c181l51598bdd883e1bd5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48444FB0.70500@gmail.com> Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > And what is so wrong with how/where they're sitting that they should > be tossed outta there? > > By your own remark, you've never heard the show (and neither have I) > so you have no place to say anything like that. > > Paul Now, Paul... I do have a place and it is in this space. For over ten years running, my buddy. As for my deal with recliners, call me a posture-nut if that make your day go by a bit smoother. Rock on. Bill O'Neill From billohno@gmail.com Mon Jun 2 15:58:02 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:58:02 -0400 Subject: WCMF ... CoMFy chairs? In-Reply-To: <48444FB0.70500@gmail.com> References: <484405C4.70104@gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021240x53b8c181l51598bdd883e1bd5@mail.gmail.com> <48444FB0.70500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <484450CA.2070700@gmail.com> Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: >> And what is so wrong with how/where they're sitting that they should >> be tossed outta there? >> >> By your own remark, you've never heard the show (and neither have I) >> so you have no place to say anything like that. >> >> Paul PS, I was referring to tossing the _recliners_, Paul. I believe that the talent can be salvaged. b - From theseacoast@maine.rr.com Mon Jun 2 10:18:14 2008 From: theseacoast@maine.rr.com (The Seacoast) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:18:14 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone Message-ID: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> Gary James signed off WMEX at 10 AM. I have the last hour on mp3. Send me an email and I will send you the ftp site to download it. The station has been replaced with more Christian Broadcasting, just what we needed! It is sad. John From blainethompson@gmail.com Mon Jun 2 15:53:23 2008 From: blainethompson@gmail.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:53:23 -0400 Subject: WCMF ... CoMFy chairs? In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80806021240x53b8c181l51598bdd883e1bd5@mail.gmail.com> References: <484405C4.70104@gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021240x53b8c181l51598bdd883e1bd5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7bded94e0806021253x231d0b03va2e961b9253522ad@mail.gmail.com> > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Bill O'Neill wrote: > >Sit up! You've got a great gig! > I have not studied enough broadcasting, but I once (first) read that announcers sound better on the air if they are standing up. I do not know what the research says on this, though. As for the furniture situation in this studio, are we all positive that the furniture is being used while the DJ's are actually on the air? That may be one (justifiable) explanation as to why the "comfy furniture" is there. If I am part of a larger morning show, odds are my voice will not be on the air during every break. - Blaine From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Jun 2 19:59:36 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:59:36 -0400 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <659875.76319.qm@web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <659875.76319.qm@web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <18500.35176.163598.804294@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Or who can't pronounce Worcester. So WBZ was #1 at 11P in the last > sweeps - how much of that was people just waiting to see when > Lobel's last day would be? Without Lobel, I might actually watch 4's sports again. I like Steve Burton. -GAWollman From markwats@comcast.net Mon Jun 2 20:03:44 2008 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 20:03:44 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> Message-ID: <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> "The Seacoast" wrote: > Gary James signed off WMEX at 10 AM. I'll miss tuning in WMEX on my occasional travlels through the area. Even before the last few days when they dug deep into the music library they would occasionally throw in oldies not heard every day. Apparently they shut off the streaming feed over the weekend, as I tried a few times to get it and after the :30 stream sponsor spot nothing happened. I would have enjoyed hearing some of those deep cuts and PAMS jingles one more time. Mark Watson From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jun 2 20:48:38 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:48:38 -0500 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <18500.35176.163598.804294@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <659875.76319.qm@web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <18500.35176.163598.804294@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4fc429770806021748u2fa6d102g9f0e31ba25aececc@mail.gmail.com> There have been rumors that somebody who worked at BZ may be returning to be the lead sports anchor. He did weekends before Burton but took the lead job at a Detroit station. Still Lobel had his loyal followers and he WAS the person to watch if something broke. I would not be shocked to see Lobie land at FOX25 as Butch Sterns is just terrible. On 6/2/08, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> Or who can't pronounce Worcester. So WBZ was #1 at 11P in the last >> sweeps - how much of that was people just waiting to see when >> Lobel's last day would be? > > Without Lobel, I might actually watch 4's sports again. I like Steve > Burton. > > -GAWollman > > From rac@gabrielmass.com Mon Jun 2 20:29:58 2008 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:29:58 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> Message-ID: <48449086.9070308@gabrielmass.com> I'm sorry to see a live-and-local station go, but I didn't realize that the Portsmouth area already had any religious radio stations. When I lived there in the Pleistocene era, there were none at all. Are there a few now? Whatever the new station is, I hope it won't just be paid time all the time. :-( --RC The Seacoast wrote: > Gary James signed off WMEX at 10 AM. I have the last hour on mp3. Send me > an email and I will send you the ftp site to download it. > > The station has been replaced with more Christian Broadcasting, just what we > needed! It is sad. > > > John From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Mon Jun 2 21:52:57 2008 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WCMF ... CoMFy chairs? In-Reply-To: <7bded94e0806021253x231d0b03va2e961b9253522ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <83171.20804.qm@web55807.mail.re3.yahoo.com> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:53:23 Blaine Thompson wrote: > I have not studied enough broadcasting, but I once > (first) read that > announcers sound better on the air if they are > standing up. I do not know > what the research says on this, though. > > As for the furniture situation in this studio, are > we all positive that the > furniture is being used while the DJ's are actually > on the air? That may be > one (justifiable) explanation as to why the "comfy > furniture" is there. Okay let me try to respond to this email again without my computer randomly powering itself off in the middle of it and losing everything. As a former Rochester radio personality/promotions assistant/etc I feel very qualified to comment on this. For a *very* brief period of time before going to Entercom I interned at CBS Radio Rochester (about the time this studio was built). I can tell you that this studio with all the comfy furniture and "trimmings" was most definitely used while that show was on the air. In fact, I believe Scott took that picture while everyone in that room was "live". There were several sofas and comfy chairs, and a desk at which Brother Wease sat. For those of you outside the Rochester NY radio market, Brother Wease has hosted a top-rated morning show there for over 20 years. As part of one of his contract renewals with CBS, he got his own private studio built for him and his show. This studio was so private, in fact, that *NOBODY* outside of his show and its staff and guests were even allowed inside that room (there was a big memo posted on the studio door reminding everyone in the building of this policy). For all of us "other" people, there was a huge window on the door and glass walls around the studio so everyone could clearly see everything inside. This studio was clearly "overbuilt" in my opinion for the Rochester radio market. There was talk at one point of syndicating his show to other markets, but their first attempt with Buffalo was such a failure it never got off the ground. I can also tell you this - when CBS had this studio complex built, they pulled out all the stops - that complex looked like something you would expect to find at a Top-10 market leading cluster, not in Rochester NY. Unfortunately, I found that several of the people working there were not of the same quality as the complex itself. Although Entercom's old studios in Midtown Plaza were practically decrepit compared to CBS, at least they treated their interns and employees like actual human beings and showed them respect. As far as announcers sounding better on the air if they are standing up, I've never read any research on this but I personally *ALWAYS* stand up whenever I open the mic to speak, whenever possible. It just feels better to me - I feel like I have much better control over my voice and can project it better when standing up as opposed to sitting down. Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jun 2 21:45:53 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 20:45:53 -0500 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> Message-ID: <4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> While we can lament the format change of another station to religious programming there is no getting around the fact that it is highly profitable for the license holder. Organizations can tell their followers they need more money to spread the word and the station owner happily sells the time. When I was young WHDH radio would sell airtime to the Mission Church in JP and the Red Sox on Wednesday nights would not start a home game until 8:30 in because the service was so widely listened to and WHDH and the church would not budge on the time. From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Jun 2 22:05:52 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:05:52 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <48449086.9070308@gabrielmass.com> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <48449086.9070308@gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <18500.42752.284798.714869@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I'm sorry to see a live-and-local station go, but I didn't realize that > the Portsmouth area already had any religious radio stations. When I > lived there in the Pleistocene era, there were none at all. Are there a > few now? At least four (two of which simulcast): WSEW/WWPC, WWNH, and now 106.5. > Whatever the new station is, I hope it won't just be paid time all the > time. :-( EMF ("'Educational' Media 'Foundation'") doesn't do that. EMF gulls listeners into donating hundreds of dollars a year (if not month) to pay for their acquisition binge. 106.5 is now running EMF's "K-Love" satellite format, if I read the reports correctly, and they will presumably soon ask the FCC to reclassify the station as non-commercial so they can then apply for a main studio waiver and make it a full satellite (no local presence at all) of whatever their home-base station is these days. EMF also operates a Christian rock service called "Air 1" (based, if I'm not mistaken, out of KHRI in Hollister, California). -GAWollman From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Mon Jun 2 21:57:38 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:57:38 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> <4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> WKHL 106.5 won't be selling anytime locally, there won't even be any local studios. EMF/KLove don't do the pay for play thing. However, listening to the last 80 minute aircheck, I had to almost throw up at how much KLove/EMF ass that Dennis Jackson, Gary James and crew were kissing.. it's unbeleiveable they actually beleived any of the crap they were saying. Now, I should say, I respect Dennis as a broadcaster, he is a genius and a good business person.. and Gary James is a good radio guy. Paul On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > While we can lament the format change of another station to religious > programming there is no getting around the fact that it is highly > profitable for the license holder. > > Organizations can tell their followers they need more money to spread > the word and the station owner happily sells the time. > > When I was young WHDH radio would sell airtime to the Mission Church > in JP and the Red Sox on Wednesday nights would not start a home game > until 8:30 in because the service was so widely listened to and WHDH > and the church would not budge on the time. > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.radio-talk.net http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Mon Jun 2 20:40:22 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 20:40:22 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80806021740ma862185k42ccebd235620220@mail.gmail.com> The WMEX webstream from Barnabas Road Media has been down for more then a month, it "broke" awhile back and my friend at the station said he couldn't get it working again. Paul On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Mark Watson wrote: > > "The Seacoast" wrote: > > > Gary James signed off WMEX at 10 AM. >> > > I'll miss tuning in WMEX on my occasional travlels through the area. Even > before the last few days when they dug deep into the music library they > would occasionally throw in oldies not heard every day. Apparently they shut > off the streaming feed over the weekend, as I tried a few times to get it > and after the :30 stream sponsor spot nothing happened. I would have enjoyed > hearing some of those deep cuts and PAMS jingles one more time. > > Mark Watson > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.radio-talk.net http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From paulranderson@charter.net Mon Jun 2 22:36:15 2008 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:36:15 -0400 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806021216j4dcad859habfd5eb638409cb1@mail.gmail.com> References: <868031.27201.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <0K1U006VWNPCGPB1@smtpin126.mac.com> <4fc429770806021216j4dcad859habfd5eb638409cb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <89A6FE72-D8B8-4D72-989F-09EA99AF00A4@charter.net> On Jun 2, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > If this keeps up there will be nobody left at 1170 SFR that knows > I95 is 128. That's a bad thing? It's been how many years now that 128 ends in Canton? Calling a road by a name that is not called that on any sign, and hasn't been for years, is ridiculous. > Will Jack Williams be next? Wow, I sure hope not. Jack _is_ WBZ, the last one left from the Jack/ Liz/Bob days. Paul From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Jun 2 22:47:45 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:47:45 -0400 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <89A6FE72-D8B8-4D72-989F-09EA99AF00A4@charter.net> References: <868031.27201.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <0K1U006VWNPCGPB1@smtpin126.mac.com> <4fc429770806021216j4dcad859habfd5eb638409cb1@mail.gmail.com> <89A6FE72-D8B8-4D72-989F-09EA99AF00A4@charter.net> Message-ID: <18500.45265.656649.369694@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > On Jun 2, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> If this keeps up there will be nobody left at 1170 SFR that knows >> I95 is 128. > That's a bad thing? It's been how many years now that 128 ends in > Canton? Kevin said "I95", not "I-93", Paul. -GAWollman From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jun 2 22:51:58 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:51:58 -0500 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806021748u2fa6d102g9f0e31ba25aececc@mail.gmail.com> References: <659875.76319.qm@web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <18500.35176.163598.804294@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4fc429770806021748u2fa6d102g9f0e31ba25aececc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770806021951l3b18c26bnd71f79100ee6bcaf@mail.gmail.com> Actually 128 only legally exists from Danvers to I think Rockport. However we Bostonians simply refuse to call the rest of it I 95. Perfect example is the Amtrak station in Westwood which is called Rte 128 to this day. From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Mon Jun 2 22:57:03 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:57:03 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <154568.56924.qm@web55312.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> <154568.56924.qm@web55312.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80806021957u20ee985pfefdd5d87b63722@mail.gmail.com> A small transcript... Gary James: "Well, unfortunately all good things must come to an end" Dennis Jackson: "But I also, at the same time, I want to look foreward.... EMF is an excellent organization, theyre excellent folks, really nice people, theyre true Christians, they really embody that Christian life.......and it's wonderful to see people like that taking over the radio station, I guess I can mention that I don't particularly care for these corporations that own every other radio station station in the market..Clear Channel and Citadel...they're just greedy comapnies that take all the money and ship it out to Texas or wherever they are. They dont really give a hoot about the local community, except how much they can make out of it.. these people are not like that at all, these people are there to really serve a deep seeded need that people i nthe area have, by bringing a format of christian format for which you cant hear, but theres a big demand in Southern New Hampshire and Maine.. I htink it's going to be wonderful.. I want to say welcome to them and thank them for the way they've been in the process of transitioning the station to what will become"Air 1 WKHL" Gary James: "We did speak to Scott Smith, whos one of the morning hosts, a little while ago, a very nice guy" Dennis Jackson: "Very Cool" Does anyone find it odd what Dennis is saying about KLove/EMF? They're basiclaly the religious verison of CLear Channel. but because they gave him $1 million for the signal, they're better then CC, even though they do the same things Paul On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Don A. wrote: > > > > However, listening to the last 80 minute aircheck, I had to > > almost throw up > > at how much KLove/EMF ass that Dennis Jackson, Gary James > > and crew were > > kissing.. it's unbeleiveable they actually beleived any > > of the crap they > > were saying. > > Can you give us an example of some of the "kiss ass crap" you were hearing? > > I just saying...for those of us that can't listen. ;-) > > > > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.radio-talk.net http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jun 2 22:05:55 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:05:55 -0500 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> <4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770806021905g46fa7e35w98366418cd268744@mail.gmail.com> EMF is being bankrolled by somebody and however their financial setup is obviously the more penetration they have the better. So in reality is is paid programming. The bottom line is it will drive more listeners to satellite radio. On 6/2/08, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: > WKHL 106.5 won't be selling anytime locally, there won't even be any local > studios. EMF/KLove don't do the pay for play thing. > > However, listening to the last 80 minute aircheck, I had to almost throw up > at how much KLove/EMF ass that Dennis Jackson, Gary James and crew were > kissing.. it's unbeleiveable they actually beleived any of the crap they > were saying. > > Now, I should say, I respect Dennis as a broadcaster, he is a genius and a > good business person.. and Gary James is a good radio guy. > > Paul > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > >> While we can lament the format change of another station to religious >> programming there is no getting around the fact that it is highly >> profitable for the license holder. >> >> Organizations can tell their followers they need more money to spread >> the word and the station owner happily sells the time. >> >> When I was young WHDH radio would sell airtime to the Mission Church >> in JP and the Red Sox on Wednesday nights would not start a home game >> until 8:30 in because the service was so widely listened to and WHDH >> and the church would not budge on the time. >> > > > > -- > Sincerely, > Paul B. Walker, Jr. > http://www.realradiousa.com > http://www.radio-talk.net > http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting > walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Jun 2 22:27:55 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <154568.56924.qm@web55312.mail.re4.yahoo.com> > However, listening to the last 80 minute aircheck, I had to > almost throw up > at how much KLove/EMF ass that Dennis Jackson, Gary James > and crew were > kissing.. it's unbeleiveable they actually beleived any > of the crap they > were saying. Can you give us an example of some of the "kiss ass crap" you were hearing? I just saying...for those of us that can't listen. ;-) From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Jun 2 23:32:54 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:32:54 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806021905g46fa7e35w98366418cd268744@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> <4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> <4fc429770806021905g46fa7e35w98366418cd268744@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18500.47974.326609.259755@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > EMF is being bankrolled by somebody As I stated earlier, EMF is being bankrolled by large numbers of people giving them large amounts of money every single month. According to their IRS Form 990 filings, in 2005 they raised $56 million. In 2006, they had $72 million in "primary revenue", on expenses of $56 million, and assets of $80 million. -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jun 3 00:31:20 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:31:20 -0400 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806021951l3b18c26bnd71f79100ee6bcaf@mail.gmail.com> References: <659875.76319.qm@web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, <4fc429770806021748u2fa6d102g9f0e31ba25aececc@mail.gmail.com>, <4fc429770806021951l3b18c26bnd71f79100ee6bcaf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <484490D8.14271.5BB2EA@joe.attorneyross.com> On 2 Jun 2008 at 21:51, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Actually 128 only legally exists from Danvers to I think Rockport. > However we Bostonians simply refuse to call the rest of it I 95. No, there's a sign somewhere in Canton which says "Route 128 begins here." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jun 3 00:31:19 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:31:19 -0400 Subject: WCMF ... CoMFy chairs? In-Reply-To: <7bded94e0806021253x231d0b03va2e961b9253522ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <484405C4.70104@gmail.com>, <8bce0fe80806021240x53b8c181l51598bdd883e1bd5@mail.gmail.com>, <7bded94e0806021253x231d0b03va2e961b9253522ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <484490D7.13199.5BB134@joe.attorneyross.com> On 2 Jun 2008 at 15:53, Blaine Thompson wrote: > I have not studied enough broadcasting, but I once (first) read that > announcers sound better on the air if they are standing up. I do not > know what the research says on this, though. I remember when I was starting as a freshman at WMUA at UMass, and I sounded terrible, they told me to stand while doing my newscast. Since the studio was set up to sit at a table, that meant relocating the mike and holding the news copy in my hand, but I tried it, and I think it helped. Eventually, I went back to sitting down, but I think that especially with a beginner trying to sound like a radio announcer, it helps. As I recall, Jim O'Hern, the station manager at the time, took the time to work with me for awhile after a meeting, because he had heard me on the air and didn't like how I sounded. Then, next time I was on, he listened and called to tell me how much I had improved. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jun 3 00:31:19 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:31:19 -0400 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <89A6FE72-D8B8-4D72-989F-09EA99AF00A4@charter.net> References: <868031.27201.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, <4fc429770806021216j4dcad859habfd5eb638409cb1@mail.gmail.com>, <89A6FE72-D8B8-4D72-989F-09EA99AF00A4@charter.net> Message-ID: <484490D7.2344.5BB21F@joe.attorneyross.com> On 2 Jun 2008 at 22:36, Paul Anderson wrote: > That's a bad thing? It's been how many years now that 128 ends in > Canton? Calling a road by a name that is not called that on any sign, > and hasn't been for years, is ridiculous. What's ridiculous is signs that are unhelpful in telling people where to go. Some years ago, after the change, I was coming up from Brockton or points south on Route 24. When I got to the end, I tried to figure out where to go. The signs said that one way was 93 South, the other way was 93 North. Since I didn't know about the change, I couldn't figure out how to get to Route 128 North. Or even 95 North. And I took the wrong turn because Route 128/95 North was I-93 South. Whatever they want to call the road, the signs should be informative. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Jun 3 00:47:31 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 00:47:31 -0400 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <484490D7.2344.5BB21F@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <868031.27201.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770806021216j4dcad859habfd5eb638409cb1@mail.gmail.com> <89A6FE72-D8B8-4D72-989F-09EA99AF00A4@charter.net> <484490D7.2344.5BB21F@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <18500.52451.7303.720867@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Whatever they want to call the road, the signs should be informative. That's what the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices says, too. I've long since given up expecting Massachusetts state government to do the Right Thing when highways are concerned. For the Yankee Division Highway, the Right Thing, arguably, is to put the 128 designation back on the Canton-to-Braintree segment -- everyone still calls it "128" anyway, including (ObRadio) the traffic reporters. (Since this is not a highways mailing-list, I will spare the rest of the readership my explanation for why this is so.) -GAWollman From paul@derrynh.net Tue Jun 3 01:57:06 2008 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 01:57:06 -0400 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806021951l3b18c26bnd71f79100ee6bcaf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001501c8c53e$a76ad5e0$38c23e18@YOURF7ED5FB036> No. Unless the 128 markers have come down recently, it is still marked 95-128 on the free standing signs from Canton to Peabody (Though I believe there are no more Big Green Signs using the 128 nameplate) Peabody-Dedham 95-128 South Dedham-Canton 1 North 95-128 South Canton-Braintree 93-1 North Braintree-O'Neil Tunnel 93-1-3 North Though I do think EVENTUALLY all the 128 signs will come down up to Exit 45.. -Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH (Even after 18 years, still can't get used to seeing "128" signs in Londonderry....) -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Vahey Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:52 PM To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Boston Radio Group Subject: Re: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ Actually 128 only legally exists from Danvers to I think Rockport. However we Bostonians simply refuse to call the rest of it I 95. Perfect example is the Amtrak station in Westwood which is called Rte 128 to this day. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Tue Jun 3 02:45:09 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:45:09 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1><00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark><4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >> While we can lament the format change of another station to religious >> programming there is no getting around the fact that it is highly >> profitable for the license holder. I believe this is an oft-repeated fallacy. I have known people who have worked for Salem and other religious outlets. Many of them know how tough it is to make their stations work. >> Organizations can tell their followers they need more money to spread >> the word and the station owner happily sells the time. The "followers" don't part with their money that easy. Conservatives are rather tight fisted with their money. There are only a few "stars" in religious broadcasting, personalities and messages that make people send their $15 & $20 checks...but most of them are struggling to cover airtime. There are also less and less people buying airtime on religious stations. As the Billy Grahams, & Oral Roberts die off....there aren't many new preachers replacing them. The old adage about a struggling station "getting religion" and solving all their problems is often touted by those of us that work in commercial spot sales...but ask anyone in a religious outlet.....it's not a panacea. (....although it may have been at one time.) DA From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Tue Jun 3 00:36:44 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 00:36:44 -0400 Subject: WCMF ... CoMFy chairs? In-Reply-To: <484490D7.13199.5BB134@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <484405C4.70104@gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021240x53b8c181l51598bdd883e1bd5@mail.gmail.com> <7bded94e0806021253x231d0b03va2e961b9253522ad@mail.gmail.com> <484490D7.13199.5BB134@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80806022136q4e4418d0kf410fdf25a2ccbd8@mail.gmail.com> When I did Mornings in North Dakota, I alternated between sitting and standing.... did more sitting.. and in New Hampshire, I sat all the time. In my new job, I'll probably be doing my show sitting down. Paul On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:31 AM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 2 Jun 2008 at 15:53, Blaine Thompson wrote: > > > I have not studied enough broadcasting, but I once (first) read that > > announcers sound better on the air if they are standing up. I do not > > know what the research says on this, though. > > I remember when I was starting as a freshman at WMUA at UMass, and I > sounded terrible, they told me to stand while doing my newscast. > Since the studio was set up to sit at a table, that meant relocating > the mike and holding the news copy in my hand, but I tried it, and I > think it helped. Eventually, I went back to sitting down, but I > think that especially with a beginner trying to sound like a radio > announcer, it helps. > > As I recall, Jim O'Hern, the station manager at the time, took the > time to work with me for awhile after a meeting, because he had heard > me on the air and didn't like how I sounded. Then, next time I was > on, he listened and called to tell me how much I had improved. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 > http://www.attorneyross.com > > > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.radio-talk.net http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From billohno@gmail.com Tue Jun 3 06:55:55 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:55:55 -0400 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <001501c8c53e$a76ad5e0$38c23e18@YOURF7ED5FB036> References: <001501c8c53e$a76ad5e0$38c23e18@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: <4845233B.50807@gmail.com> Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > Braintree-O'Neil Tunnel 93-1-3 North That's "O'Neill Tunnel" Bil O From sid@wrko.com Tue Jun 3 07:15:35 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:15:35 -0400 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <001501c8c53e$a76ad5e0$38c23e18@YOURF7ED5FB036> References: <4fc429770806021951l3b18c26bnd71f79100ee6bcaf@mail.gmail.com> <001501c8c53e$a76ad5e0$38c23e18@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809877DBCE3@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>I do think EVENTUALLY all the 128 signs will come down up to Exit 45..<< Massachusetts got a waiver of that rule years ago, mostly due to 128's historic significance (when 128 became a limited-access highway ringing Boston, it was the nation's first "beltway"). IMO they'd be foolish to give that up. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From markwa1ion@aol.com Tue Jun 3 08:48:01 2008 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:48:01 -0400 Subject: 128 Message-ID: <8CA938F3112913C-400-245E@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> 128 is almost a "brand name" like Route 66, known widely around the country. It is, of course, the birthplace of many high-tech innovator companies which started and then flourished during the Cold War years ('50s to '80s). Many still play a big part in the economic vitality of the region today. As one in the electronics industry who has travelled domestically and overseas, "Route 128" is respected as a hotbed of activity with only a few other stateside equivalents or superiors. This short list would include Silicon Valley (CA), Research Triangle Park (NC), Richardson (TX), metro-Seattle (WA), the Space Coast (FL), and the Beltway (DC-MD-VA). Perhaps "historic Route 128" signs should augment the I-93 and I-95 signs since, as in the case of Route 66 out west, this is American heritage that refuses to die. Mark Connelly - Billerica, MA << On 2 Jun 2008 at 21:51, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Actually 128 only legally exists from Danvers to I think Rockport. > However we Bostonians simply refuse to call the rest of it I 95. No, there's a sign somewhere in Canton which says "Route 128 begins here." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com >> From billohno@gmail.com Tue Jun 3 09:12:36 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:12:36 -0400 Subject: 128 In-Reply-To: <8CA938F3112913C-400-245E@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA938F3112913C-400-245E@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <48454344.1020305@gmail.com> markwa1ion@aol.com wrote: > Perhaps "historic Route 128" signs should augment the I-93 and I-95 > signs since, as in the case of Route 66 out west, this is American > heritage that refuses to die. > > Mark Connelly - Billerica, MA We need to remember - we're talking about one of the most bloated beaurocracies on the planet - the Comm. of Mass. and the Feds. If it were up to those very companies that made 128 great to come up with a solution it would a) happen b) cost less money c) infringe on some hack collective bargaining agreement. Bill O'Neill From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Jun 3 09:52:18 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 09:52:18 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> <4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: [not sure who is being quoted here... please do a better job of keeping track of attributions:] >>> While we can lament the format change of another station to religious >>> programming there is no getting around the fact that it is highly >>> profitable for the license holder. > I believe this is an oft-repeated fallacy. > I have known people who have worked for Salem and other religious outlets. > Many of them know how tough it is to make their stations work. Commercial religion and non-commercial religion are two *very* different kinds of operations. Companies like Salem are having their lunches eaten by non-comms these days. If you're already sending EMF the "suggested" $40 a month, you're not likely to have a lot more to give to the preachers who buy time on commercial stations. (Indeed, I suspect the typical EMF donor doesn't listen to any other religious stations.) -GAWollman From marklaurence@mac.com Tue Jun 3 10:38:06 2008 From: marklaurence@mac.com (marklaurence@mac.com) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:38:06 -0700 Subject: 128 In-Reply-To: <8CA938F3112913C-400-245E@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA938F3112913C-400-245E@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <52585B4B-011A-1000-9C43-B740B0A3533B-Webmail-10014@mac.com> On Tuesday, June 03, 2008, at 08:54AM, wrote: >128 is almost a "brand name" like Route 66, known widely around the >country. It is, of course, the birthplace of many high-tech innovator >companies which started and then flourished during the Cold War years >('50s to '80s). Many still play a big part in the economic vitality of >the region today. The "problem" is that 128 serves two purposes. For long distance travelers, most of it is part of the route from Maine to Florida, and needs to be signed 95. For Boston commuters it's the Inner Belt and needs to be signed 128 for the entire route from Gloucester to Braintree. Why not allow both designations? Mostly politics. It probably dates back to the fight over the Southwest Expressway, and certainly involves the Big Dig and whether through traffic should be encouraged on the Southeast Expressway and Central Artery/Tunnel. The Feds insisted on what roads got the 95 designation, turned 128 South into 93 North from Canton to Providence, and that's why we're forced to have "128 Ends" signs in Canton. It's also why newer entrance signs direct traffic to 95, without mentioning the evil 128 designation, forever stranding travelers who got directions from a native to take 128 North. (Turnpike signs, not coming under the same highway laws, still emphasize 128.) I wish both sides would come to their senses sometime and permit dual signs along the entire route 128. Good for Massachusetts drivers - and broadcasters - for refusing to let go of 128. Mark From billohno@gmail.com Tue Jun 3 10:51:22 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:51:22 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> <4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> <18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <48455A6A.30604@gmail.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > Commercial religion and non-commercial religion are two *very* > different kinds of operations. Companies like Salem are having their > lunches eaten by non-comms these days. If you're already sending EMF > the "suggested" $40 a month, you're not likely to have a lot more to > give to the preachers who buy time on commercial stations. (Indeed, I > suspect the typical EMF donor doesn't listen to any other religious > stations.) > There is no greater way to become very solvent than to collect a little from a lot on a regular basis. Just ask the Dollar Store. I am not sure how K-Love fares in the numbers. They seem so send a very decent signal throughout the Champlain Valley at 89.7 from Danamora, NY. Bill O'Neill From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jun 3 10:47:02 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:47:02 -0400 Subject: 128 References: <8CA938F3112913C-400-245E@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <52585B4B-011A-1000-9C43-B740B0A3533B-Webmail-10014@mac.com> Message-ID: <3BD8B673483F44EE8543224C5FBEFBC0@SatU205S5044> Isn't there a federal regulation that limits multiple route sineage on Interstate highways to Interstate route numbers? That is, I don't think you can have multiple route numbers on Insterstate highways UNLESS ALL of the routes are Interstates. So I-93 and I-95 on the same signpost would be OK but combining I- with Mass 128 would NOT be OK. Can someone please verify that or shoot me out of the water? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:38 AM Subject: Re: 128 > > I wish both sides would come to their senses sometime and permit > dual signs along the entire route 128. Good for Massachusetts > drivers - and broadcasters - for refusing to let go of 128. > > Mark From marklaurence@mac.com Tue Jun 3 11:24:26 2008 From: marklaurence@mac.com (marklaurence@mac.com) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:24:26 -0700 Subject: 128 In-Reply-To: <3BD8B673483F44EE8543224C5FBEFBC0@SatU205S5044> References: <8CA938F3112913C-400-245E@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <52585B4B-011A-1000-9C43-B740B0A3533B-Webmail-10014@mac.com> <3BD8B673483F44EE8543224C5FBEFBC0@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <52585B4B-011A-1000-9DDA-B740B0A3533B-Webmail-10014@mac.com> On Tuesday, June 03, 2008, at 10:47AM, "Dan.Strassberg" wrote: >Isn't there a federal regulation that limits multiple route sineage on >Interstate highways to Interstate route numbers? That is, I don't >think you can have multiple route numbers on Insterstate highways >UNLESS ALL of the routes are Interstates. So I-93 and I-95 on the same >signpost would be OK but combining I- with Mass 128 would >NOT be OK. Can someone please verify that or shoot me out of the >water? Route 128 already shares with 95 from Peabody to Canton, and Route 1 joins in from Dedham through I-93. So the highways themselves have mixed designations. But the signs are on separate signposts, and at most of the interchanges the 128 signs are woefully inadequate. But they could amend the regulation or create an exemption, and if they came to their senses on this issue, they would. Mark From wollman@bimajority.org Tue Jun 3 11:51:23 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:51:23 -0400 Subject: 128 In-Reply-To: <3BD8B673483F44EE8543224C5FBEFBC0@SatU205S5044> References: <8CA938F3112913C-400-245E@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <52585B4B-011A-1000-9C43-B740B0A3533B-Webmail-10014@mac.com> <3BD8B673483F44EE8543224C5FBEFBC0@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <18501.26747.634231.145591@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Isn't there a federal regulation that limits multiple route sineage on > Interstate highways to Interstate route numbers? That is, I don't > think you can have multiple route numbers on Insterstate highways > UNLESS ALL of the routes are Interstates. Not true. See the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov) for the full details. (The MUTCD requires that Interstate designations be signed first, in numerical order, followed by U.S. Routes, followed by state routes, followed by county routes.) The "128" situation is a result of the FHWA's northeast district office inventing its own rules rather than applying the national standard. Please direct further followups to private email or misc.transport.road as we are getting far afield from broadcast media here. -GAWollman From francini@mac.com Tue Jun 3 11:35:38 2008 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:35:38 -0400 Subject: 128 In-Reply-To: <52585B4B-011A-1000-9DDA-B740B0A3533B-Webmail-10014@mac.com> References: <8CA938F3112913C-400-245E@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <52585B4B-011A-1000-9C43-B740B0A3533B-Webmail-10014@mac.com> <3BD8B673483F44EE8543224C5FBEFBC0@SatU205S5044> <52585B4B-011A-1000-9DDA-B740B0A3533B-Webmail-10014@mac.com> Message-ID: <8BB7F82E-D7D7-4D82-B840-3623827E85D2@mac.com> On 3 Jun 2008, at 11:24, marklaurence@mac.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 03, 2008, at 10:47AM, "Dan.Strassberg" > wrote: >> Isn't there a federal regulation that limits multiple route >> sineage on >> Interstate highways to Interstate route numbers? That is, I don't >> think you can have multiple route numbers on Insterstate highways >> UNLESS ALL of the routes are Interstates. So I-93 and I-95 on the >> same >> signpost would be OK but combining I- with Mass 128 would >> NOT be OK. Can someone please verify that or shoot me out of the >> water? > > Route 128 already shares with 95 from Peabody to Canton, and Route > 1 joins in from Dedham through I-93. So the highways themselves > have mixed designations. But the signs are on separate signposts, > and at most of the interchanges the 128 signs are woefully > inadequate. But they could amend the regulation or create an > exemption, and if they came to their senses on this issue, they would. My guess is that the signs that were funded by Federal money are only allowed to have the Federal highway numbers on them -- hence no Mass. 3 or 128. But US 1? Or US 3 (in Burlington)? Those darn well should be on the Federal signs, as they are US highways. Unless, of course, the Feds are trying to deprecate the US highway system. (They tried to do that to US 66 out West, but the several states it went through, after considerable motorist complaint, came up with the "Historic US 66" designation.) John From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Jun 3 13:11:08 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:11:08 -0400 Subject: 128 In-Reply-To: <3BD8B673483F44EE8543224C5FBEFBC0@SatU205S5044> References: <8CA938F3112913C-400-245E@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <52585B4B-011A-1000-9C43-B740B0A3533B-Webmail-10014@mac.com> <3BD8B673483F44EE8543224C5FBEFBC0@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <001801c8c59c$d4f25340$c7151bac@MasterExtra> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:47 AM > To: Mark Laurence; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: 128 > > Isn't there a federal regulation that limits multiple route > sineage on Interstate highways to Interstate route numbers? > That is, I don't think you can have multiple route numbers on > Insterstate highways UNLESS ALL of the routes are > Interstates. I know of one notable exception, that may or may not disprove the point. I-64 in the St. Louis area is also US 40 and one other route I think. From Joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jun 3 15:39:01 2008 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:39:01 -0500 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809877DBCE3@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> References: <4fc429770806021951l3b18c26bnd71f79100ee6bcaf@mail.gmail.com>, <001501c8c53e$a76ad5e0$38c23e18@YOURF7ED5FB036>, <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809877DBCE3@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <48455785.28774.38C311@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 3 Jun 2008 Sid Schweiger wrote: > Massachusetts got a waiver of that rule years ago, mostly due to 128's > historic significance (when 128 became a limited-access highway > ringing Boston, it was the nation's first "beltway"). IMO they'd be > foolish to give that up. Then I don't know why the Canton to Braintree section had to be changed. I see no reason why Route 128 has to be coextensive with the beltway part of I-95. And I don't see why the signs on Route 24 can't give the directions to at least I-95 North, if not 128 North. And there's a quarter-mile stretch of road from the point where I-93 ends and where 128 and I-95 begin that seems to have no identity at all! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From Joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jun 3 15:39:01 2008 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:39:01 -0500 Subject: 128 In-Reply-To: <48454344.1020305@gmail.com> References: <8CA938F3112913C-400-245E@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com>, <48454344.1020305@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48455785.29172.38C18A@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 3 Jun 2008 Bill O'Neill wrote: > We need to remember - we're talking about one of the most bloated > beaurocracies on the planet - the Comm. of Mass. and the Feds. If it > were up to those very companies that made 128 great to come up with a > solution it would a) happen b) cost less money c) infringe on some > hack collective bargaining agreement. And it would probably make a lot of money for some corporate stockholders and executives and screw the rest of us. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From Joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jun 3 15:39:01 2008 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:39:01 -0500 Subject: 128 In-Reply-To: <3BD8B673483F44EE8543224C5FBEFBC0@SatU205S5044> References: <8CA938F3112913C-400-245E@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com>, <3BD8B673483F44EE8543224C5FBEFBC0@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <48455785.15505.38C246@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 3 Jun 2008 Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Isn't there a federal regulation that limits multiple route sineage on > Interstate highways to Interstate route numbers? That is, I don't > think you can have multiple route numbers on Insterstate highways > UNLESS ALL of the routes are Interstates. So I-93 and I-95 on the same > signpost would be OK but combining I- with Mass 128 would > NOT be OK. Can someone please verify that or shoot me out of the > water? I don't know, but why should it be OK for Turnpike signs to read Route 128, since the Turnpike is Interstate 90? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From sid@wrko.com Tue Jun 3 15:07:30 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:07:30 -0400 Subject: 128 In-Reply-To: <48455785.15505.38C246@Joe.attorneyross.com> References: <8CA938F3112913C-400-245E@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com>, <3BD8B673483F44EE8543224C5FBEFBC0@SatU205S5044> <48455785.15505.38C246@Joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809877DC495@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>Isn't there a federal regulation that limits multiple route signage on Interstate highways to Interstate route numbers? That is, I don't think you can have multiple route numbers on Interstate highways UNLESS ALL of the routes are Interstates. So I-93 and I-95 on the same signpost would be OK but combining I- with Mass 128 would NOT be OK. Can someone please verify that or shoot me out of the water?<< Ordinarily, yes. The rule is that once an existing highway is made part of the Interstate system, all other designations (state and US) are supposed to disappear. Best example close to home is old Connecticut route 15, from the Massachusetts border to East Hartford (the Wilbur Cross Highway). Once it was designated as I-86, and later I-84, the "15" markers went away. As I previously posted, Massachusetts has a waiver of that rule for 128. >>why should it be OK for Turnpike signs to read Route 128, since the Turnpike is Interstate 90?<< The waiver should cover it, but if there were no waiver in place, I don't believe the rule requires any particular time-frame for changing the signs on intersecting roads. Many of the "pull-through" signs on 128 (along the stretch that's also part of I-95) still say only "128" on them. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Tue Jun 3 17:28:40 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:28:40 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1><00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark><4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com><8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> <18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro> >>>> While we can lament the format change of another station to religious >>>> programming there is no getting around the fact that it is highly >>>> profitable for the license holder. > >> I believe this is an oft-repeated fallacy. > >> I have known people who have worked for Salem and other religious >> outlets. > >> Many of them know how tough it is to make their stations work. > > If you're already sending EMF > the "suggested" $40 a month, you're not likely to have a lot more to > give to the preachers who buy time on commercial stations. (Indeed, I > suspect the typical EMF donor doesn't listen to any other religious > stations.) I assume that the people who find non-comm religious stations enjoyable, are willing to "put up or shut up" because the enjoy the programming...which appears to lean heavily on music. In the commercial world of religion, there are only a few 'superstars' that people will respond to. As they drop off, there is almost nobody that is replacing them. Add to that the fact that most commerial relion stations are on AM...and most of the non-comms are on FM. With 3kw out of Farmington, I don't know if there are people who will support it. From paul@derrynh.net Tue Jun 3 22:05:31 2008 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 22:05:31 -0400 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <4845233B.50807@gmail.com> Message-ID: <012001c8c5e7$77ec47f0$c58fe847@YOURF7ED5FB036> I think they should have kept it the "Liberty" tunnel (I believe that was to be the original name???) -Paul Hopfgarten -Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: Bill O'Neill [mailto:billohno@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:56 AM To: paul@derrynh.net Cc: 'Kevin Vahey'; 'Garrett Wollman'; 'Boston Radio Group' Subject: Re: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > Braintree-O'Neil Tunnel 93-1-3 North That's "O'Neill Tunnel" Bil O From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Jun 3 22:25:56 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 22:25:56 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1><00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark><4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com><8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com><18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro> Message-ID: Is there something wrong with begging on the air for money from listeners? It works for public radio and they get tax money, too! From paul@derrynh.net Tue Jun 3 22:12:27 2008 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 22:12:27 -0400 Subject: 128 In-Reply-To: <52585B4B-011A-1000-9DDA-B740B0A3533B-Webmail-10014@mac.com> Message-ID: <012101c8c5e8$6fffd1a0$c58fe847@YOURF7ED5FB036> What must REALLY confuse an out-of-towner is I-95/128 North US 1 South....Car's Compass points WEST... It's a Dedham-Canton Vortex I tell ya.... -Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of marklaurence@mac.com Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:24 AM To: Dan.Strassberg Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: 128 On Tuesday, June 03, 2008, at 10:47AM, "Dan.Strassberg" wrote: >Isn't there a federal regulation that limits multiple route sineage on >Interstate highways to Interstate route numbers? That is, I don't >think you can have multiple route numbers on Insterstate highways >UNLESS ALL of the routes are Interstates. So I-93 and I-95 on the same >signpost would be OK but combining I- with Mass 128 would >NOT be OK. Can someone please verify that or shoot me out of the >water? Route 128 already shares with 95 from Peabody to Canton, and Route 1 joins in from Dedham through I-93. So the highways themselves have mixed designations. But the signs are on separate signposts, and at most of the interchanges the 128 signs are woefully inadequate. But they could amend the regulation or create an exemption, and if they came to their senses on this issue, they would. Mark From nostaticatall@charter.net Tue Jun 3 23:07:46 2008 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 23:07:46 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1><00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark><4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com><8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> <18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro> Message-ID: <14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net> It won't take much for this station to be profitable. It's simply a simulcast of programming being beamed to dozens of affiliates nationwide. There's little to no promotion outside of word of mouth in church circles. The only major expenses EMF will have is the electric bill and occasional transmitter maintenance. If a small percentage of their local audience ponies up a few bucks occasionally, it should cover expenses. I'm sure that some EMF stations lose money while others make quite a bit, but balanced out across their entire network they are most likely making a respectable profit, something that most commercial stations (religious or otherwise) can't say right now. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Jun 3, 2008, at 5:28 PM, Don A wrote: > > I assume that the people who find non-comm religious stations > enjoyable, are willing to "put up or shut up" because the enjoy the > programming...which appears to lean heavily on music. > > In the commercial world of religion, there are only a few > 'superstars' that people will respond to. > > As they drop off, there is almost nobody that is replacing them. > > Add to that the fact that most commerial relion stations are on > AM...and most of the non-comms are on FM. > > With 3kw out of Farmington, I don't know if there are people who > will support it. From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 4 00:43:41 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:43:41 -0400 Subject: Joe Bergantino leaves WBZ In-Reply-To: <012001c8c5e7$77ec47f0$c58fe847@YOURF7ED5FB036> References: <4845233B.50807@gmail.com>, <012001c8c5e7$77ec47f0$c58fe847@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: <4845E53D.30181.4C4014@joe.attorneyross.com> On 3 Jun 2008 at 22:05, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > I think they should have kept it the "Liberty" tunnel (I believe that > was to be the original name???) That was what Mitt Romney proposed should be the name. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Wed Jun 4 00:54:02 2008 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:54:02 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1><00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark><4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com><8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> <18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro> <14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net> Message-ID: <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> David Tomm wrote: > It won't take much for this station to be profitable. It's simply a > simulcast of programming being beamed to dozens of affiliates > nationwide. There's little to no promotion outside of word of mouth in > church circles. The only major expenses EMF will have is the electric > bill and occasional transmitter maintenance. If a small percentage of > their local audience ponies up a few bucks occasionally, it should cover > expenses. I'm sure that some EMF stations lose money while others make > quite a bit, but balanced out across their entire network they are most > likely making a respectable profit, something that most commercial > stations (religious or otherwise) can't say right now. I wonder about that, actually. I'm sure that on an operational level, they're making a profit, and a handsome one at that. But they're also buying stations left and right. The $1 million EMF spent for WMEX/WKHL is a drop in the bucket compared to bigger buys they've made just in the last year or so in markets including Milwaukee, Spokane, Syracuse and Albany. (And others, too - those are just the first ones that came to mind.) Most of these stations are being bought on terms - EMF puts 10% or so down and pays the rest over 10 or 15 years. They're piling up a lot of debt, quickly, in an economy that might not be forgiving of same - and in an regulatory environment that may or may not continue to support their model of staff-less stations fed by satellite from Sacramento. If they had to build and staff main studios for each of these stations, the financial picture might not look so rosy all of a sudden. (I'm not privy to EMF's internal financials, so this is at best informed speculation, mind you.) s From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Jun 4 01:13:33 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 01:13:33 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> <4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> <18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro> <14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net> <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> Message-ID: <18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > (I'm not privy to EMF's internal financials, so this is at best informed > speculation, mind you.) However, as a 501(c)(3) charity, they are required to file an annual return on IRS form 990, and to send you[1] a copy of this form if you ask them nicely. -GAWollman [1] Or anyone else. From scott@fybush.com Wed Jun 4 01:33:21 2008 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:33:21 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> <4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> <18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro> <14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net> <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> <18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <48462921.1050604@fybush.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> (I'm not privy to EMF's internal financials, so this is at best informed >> speculation, mind you.) > > However, as a 501(c)(3) charity, they are required to file an annual > return on IRS form 990, and to send you[1] a copy of this form if you ask > them nicely. > > -GAWollman > > [1] Or anyone else. > Well, yeah, and there are websites out there that will even spare me (or anyone else) the "ask them nicely" portion of the work. I'm neither blessed with the accounting skills needed, nor the time needed, to match up their income from the form 990 with the debts they're accumulating based on all the purchases they keep making...but if anyone else wants to try, have at it! s From nostaticatall@charter.net Wed Jun 4 02:40:50 2008 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 02:40:50 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1><00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark><4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com><8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> <18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro> <14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net> <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> Message-ID: EMF may be on to something. First off, financing is not a problem. There's a ton of capital floating around some of these fundie organizations. They take care of each other. EMF is also buying stations now while the market is distressed, and getting some great deals out there. Eventually station values will come back around and they'll be sitting on a gold mine. In a worst case situation, if they have to sell off some stations in non core markets to stay profitable in the short term so be it, but most likely they are investing in the infrastructure now for larger profit margins in the future. If the FCC rules drastically change it could alter their business model, but again, liquidating some of their less profitable stations if that happens should keep the company in good financial shape. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Jun 4, 2008, at 12:54 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > I wonder about that, actually. I'm sure that on an operational > level, they're making a profit, and a handsome one at that. But > they're also buying stations left and right. The $1 million EMF > spent for WMEX/WKHL is a drop in the bucket compared to bigger buys > they've made just in the last year or so in markets including > Milwaukee, Spokane, Syracuse and Albany. (And others, too - those > are just the first ones that came to mind.) > > Most of these stations are being bought on terms - EMF puts 10% or > so down and pays the rest over 10 or 15 years. They're piling up a > lot of debt, quickly, in an economy that might not be forgiving of > same - and in an regulatory environment that may or may not > continue to support their model of staff-less stations fed by > satellite from Sacramento. > > If they had to build and staff main studios for each of these > stations, the financial picture might not look so rosy all of a > sudden. > > (I'm not privy to EMF's internal financials, so this is at best > informed speculation, mind you.) > > s From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Jun 4 02:21:49 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 02:21:49 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> <4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> <18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro> <14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net> <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com><18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <48462921.1050604@fybush.com> Message-ID: <4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044> In the absence of other information, we have to assume that the interest due on the notes that cover the acquisitions are at market rates at the time of the sales. (However, this may not be the case; read on!) Although market rates have been low (but are now likely to rise), they have never reached zero in the US. The payments on the installment purchases ought to appear on K-Love's tax returns. I have to assume that the business model involves paying as little as possible in taxes and the debt-heavy balance sheet probably assures this. However, the debt-heavy balance sheet would also result in a highly leveraged entity and, in these days of ultra-cautious lenders, a high cost of money on the more recent purchases. OTOH, as a religious organization, K-Love probably has sources of money that will lend to them at below-market rates because a) the lenders feel that they are doing God's work and b) the lenders may be able to write off as charitable contributions forgiven payments of interest nominally due to them from K-Love. I doubt that there is anything illegal about all of this but it does provide an example of how the tax laws may have been written to give religious organizations a competitive advantage over for-profit companies. Do the K-Love stations support political candidates? One would think that doing so would compromise K-Love's tax-exempt status. However, the K-Love stations must be required by the FCC to sell time to candidates, just as commercial stations must. (Although don't commercial stations have the option of refusing ALL political advertising--as long as they don't play favorites?) ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Garrett Wollman" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 1:33 AM Subject: Re: WMEX is Gone > Garrett Wollman wrote: >> <> said: >> >>> (I'm not privy to EMF's internal financials, so this is at best >>> informed speculation, mind you.) >> >> However, as a 501(c)(3) charity, they are required to file an >> annual >> return on IRS form 990, and to send you[1] a copy of this form if >> you ask >> them nicely. >> >> -GAWollman >> >> [1] Or anyone else. >> > > Well, yeah, and there are websites out there that will even spare me > (or anyone else) the "ask them nicely" portion of the work. I'm > neither blessed with the accounting skills needed, nor the time > needed, to match up their income from the form 990 with the debts > they're accumulating based on all the purchases they keep > making...but if anyone else wants to try, have at it! > > s From blainethompson@gmail.com Wed Jun 4 01:04:05 2008 From: blainethompson@gmail.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 01:04:05 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> <4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> <18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro> <14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net> <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> Message-ID: <7bded94e0806032204w3d01216eu48f97e47e07ea4ce@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > I wonder about that, actually. I'm sure that on an operational level, > they're making a profit, The "big religious groups" financial doings also baffle me, although Scott explained the terms of these purchases, which make more sense now. I cover radio in Indiana a'la what Scott does for the northeast. One of the "big religious groups" has a FM station (Class B1) off the air in Indiana for some basic parts replacement issues. I talked with the CE for the radio station who told me they can not afford the repair until they receive more donations. I forget the specifics of what they needed, but I think coax cable was on the list, and that could mean a few different problems... - Blaine From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Jun 4 12:16:38 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 12:16:38 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> <4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> <18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro> <14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net> <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> <18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <48462921.1050604@fybush.com> <4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <18502.49126.209629.743286@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > However, the K-Love stations must be required by the FCC to sell time > to candidates, just as commercial stations must. Since their stations are non-commercial, different rules apply. They may, in some circumstances, be required to *give* time to candidates. -GAWollman From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Wed Jun 4 14:22:03 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:22:03 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1><00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark><4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com><8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com><18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro><14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net><48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com><18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><48462921.1050604@fybush.com><4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044> <18502.49126.209629.743286@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro> > < said: > >> However, the K-Love stations must be required by the FCC to sell time >> to candidates, just as commercial stations must. I thought that commercial station were not required to accept political spots...but, rather, that if they DO sell time to one candidate, they must sell to his oponent(s). Can a commercial station say no to all political/candidates? From sid@wrko.com Wed Jun 4 15:24:35 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:24:35 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1><00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark><4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com><8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com><18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro><14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net><48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com><18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><48462921.1050604@fybush.com><4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044> <18502.49126.209629.743286@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809878666F7@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>I thought that commercial station were not required to accept political spots...but, rather, that if they DO sell time to one candidate, they must sell to his oponent(s). Can a commercial station say no to all political/candidates?<< A resounding NO. Section 312(a)(7) of the Communications Act provides that refusal to sell "reasonable" amounts of time to candidates for public office puts a licensee's license in jeopardy. Further, as you stated, selling time to one candidate kicks in the "equal opportunity" rule, meaning that you have to then make time available for all other candidates for the same office. So...you can refuse to sell time to any candidates for any office *except* president, vice president, US senator and US representative. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From billohno@gmail.com Wed Jun 4 15:30:00 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:30:00 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809878666F7@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1><00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark><4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com><8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com><18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro><14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net><48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com><18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><48462921.1050604@fybush.com><4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044> <18502.49126.209629.743286@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809878666F7@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <4846ED38.8080400@gmail.com> Sid Schweiger wrote: > A resounding NO. Section 312(a)(7) of the Communications Act provides that refusal to sell "reasonable" amounts of time to candidates for public office puts a licensee's license in jeopardy. I think that there is something about the rate being ROS or some low-end figure on the card (for every interested candidate). Bill O'Neill From kvahey@comcast.net Wed Jun 4 15:35:06 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:35:06 -0500 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <4846ED38.8080400@gmail.com> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net> <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> <18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <48462921.1050604@fybush.com> <4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044> <18502.49126.209629.743286@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809878666F7@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <4846ED38.8080400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770806041235k4b57ed3eh1eaa5dbe86bb4457@mail.gmail.com> When did it become mandatory for a candidate to say I'm Homer Simpson and I approve this message. I am guessing sometime in the 90's From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Jun 4 15:39:34 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:39:34 -0400 Subject: Political advertising In-Reply-To: <4846ED38.8080400@gmail.com> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> <4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> <18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro> <14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net> <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> <18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <48462921.1050604@fybush.com> <4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044> <18502.49126.209629.743286@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809878666F7@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <4846ED38.8080400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18502.61302.899000.225113@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I think that there is something about the rate being ROS or some low-end > figure on the card (for every interested candidate). "Least Unit Charge" or LUC -- political candidates may not be required to pay more than the lowest rate for a comparable non-political buy in the six (?) months prior to air. (So stations make an effort to keep their regular rates as high as possible between March and November of election years.) There are rules about what constitutes "comparable", and I believe stations are allowed to require that candidates buy whatever the minimum minimum buy is for all other clients (so brokered stations aren't required to run political spot advertising, but are required to offer time slots to candidates at the best rate they offer them to regular clients). Oh, and broadcasters aren't allowed to require political advertising to meet any standard of accuracy or even public decency, even if the station normally enforces such requirements on its other clients. The only requirements a station may impose are either purely technical (deliver the ad in such-and-so format) or specified by law ("I approved this message"). "Bona fide" news interview programs are not considered advertising for the candidate being interviewed. -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Jun 4 15:43:37 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:43:37 -0400 Subject: Political advertising In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806041235k4b57ed3eh1eaa5dbe86bb4457@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net> <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> <18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <48462921.1050604@fybush.com> <4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044> <18502.49126.209629.743286@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809878666F7@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <4846ED38.8080400@gmail.com> <4fc429770806041235k4b57ed3eh1eaa5dbe86bb4457@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18502.61545.909683.171847@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > When did it become mandatory for a candidate to say I'm Homer Simpson > and I approve this message. That was part of McCain-Feingold. It's intended to distinguish candidate ads from "independent" ("527") and party-sponsored ads. -GAWollman From sid@wrko.com Wed Jun 4 15:45:15 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:45:15 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809878666F7@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1><00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark><4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com><8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com><18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro><14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net><48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com><18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><48462921.1050604@fybush.com><4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044> <18502.49126.209629.743286@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809878666F7@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE8098786676F@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>A resounding NO. Section 312(a)(7) of the Communications Act provides that refusal to sell "reasonable" amounts of time to candidates for public office puts a licensee's license in jeopardy. Further, as you stated, selling time to one candidate kicks in the "equal opportunity" rule, meaning that you have to then make time available for all other candidates for the same office.<< My bad, my bad. The above is missing one fairly critical word: Section 312(a)(7) refers to candidates for FEDERAL public office. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From sid@wrko.com Wed Jun 4 15:47:27 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:47:27 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806041235k4b57ed3eh1eaa5dbe86bb4457@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net> <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> <18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <48462921.1050604@fybush.com> <4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044> <18502.49126.209629.743286@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809878666F7@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <4846ED38.8080400@gmail.com> <4fc429770806041235k4b57ed3eh1eaa5dbe86bb4457@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE8098786677F@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>When did it become mandatory for a candidate to say I'm Homer Simpson and I approve this message. I am guessing sometime in the 90's<< IIRC it was effective in time for the 1996 election cycle. It was supposed to prevent confusion between commercials purchased by the candidate or his/her committee (which are subject to lowest-unit-rate requirements) and commercials in support of a candidate which were not bought by that candidate or committee (which can be charged at a higher rate). Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From sid@wrko.com Wed Jun 4 16:04:39 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 16:04:39 -0400 Subject: Political advertising In-Reply-To: <18502.61302.899000.225113@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <00e701c8c50d$4a0a60e0$0202a8c0@Mark> <4fc429770806021845u1fa8d427me3264fc90342f8e1@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806021857p398caab3tf6e81f584cae081f@mail.gmail.com> <18501.19602.632595.943543@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <846DE66C95D14E399E618BFAA7102933@MainXPPro> <14A23F50-F24C-4F7E-AE1B-1FE91F1B43D6@charter.net> <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> <18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <48462921.1050604@fybush.com> <4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044> <18502.49126.209629.743286@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809878666F7@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <4846ED38.8080400@gmail.com> <18502.61302.899000.225113@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809878667F4@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>political candidates may not be required to pay more than the lowest rate for a comparable non-political buy in the six (?) months prior to air.<< 45 days before a primary and 60 days before a general election. (47 CFR ?73.1942) >>broadcasters aren't allowed to require political advertising to meet any standard of accuracy or even public decency, even if the station normally enforces such requirements on its other clients. The only requirements a station may impose are either purely technical (deliver the ad in such-and-so format) or specified by law ("I approved this message").<< The classic example: the late J.B. Stoner's campaign ads for US Senate from Georgia back in the 1970s. He was an unabashed white racist who claimed in his ad that "the niggers want our white women"...and you can surely imagine the rest. Multiple appeals were made to the FCC, but they were all turned down. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Jun 4 15:45:42 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:45:42 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806041235k4b57ed3eh1eaa5dbe86bb4457@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> <18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <48462921.1050604@fybush.com> <4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044> <18502.49126.209629.743286@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809878666F7@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <4846ED38.8080400@gmail.com> <4fc429770806041235k4b57ed3eh1eaa5dbe86bb4457@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80806041245h75a0b3fds1731311077a0546d@mail.gmail.com> I dont think it is mandatory, but become the "cool" thing to say, to sound official. Paul On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > When did it become mandatory for a candidate to say I'm Homer Simpson > and I approve this message. > > I am guessing sometime in the 90's > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.radio-talk.net http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From Joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 4 18:21:45 2008 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:21:45 -0500 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1>, <7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro> Message-ID: <4846CF29.9628.C35E09@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 4 Jun 2008 Don A wrote: > I thought that commercial station were not required to accept > political spots...but, rather, that if they DO sell time to one > candidate, they must sell to his oponent(s). > > Can a commercial station say no to all political/candidates? I seem to remember that WCVB tried that when it first started. They took the attitude that they would sell no time for political ads, but would do lots of public affairs election campaign coverage, debates, etc. They had to back off from that policy fairly quickly. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From friedbagels@gmail.com Wed Jun 4 12:22:20 2008 From: friedbagels@gmail.com (Aaron Read) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:22:20 -0400 Subject: EMF Financials and Standing While Broadcasting Message-ID: <4846C13C.80107@gmail.com> IRS 990 forms can be obtained for free via www.guidestar.com You have to register, but it's free. Search for EDUCATIONAL MEDIA FOUNDATION and you'll find them, albeit the most recent 990 is from 2005. Apparently for that FY they had just over $56 million in revenue and almost $48 million in expenses. They pay their president, Richard Jenkins $257k in salary. Most of the people who work there are paid pretty well, actually...looks like all the fulltimers make over $100k, although this is in a suburb of Sacramento (Rocklin, CA) so I don't know what the COL was in 2005 there. Expensive, no doubt. -------- I don't know about scientific proof, but there is ample reason why singers usually are standing when they record in the studio: standing up gives your diaphragm more room to move. Diaphragm control is CRUCIAL to proper breathing, which in turn is crucial to singing. It's not very different for broadcasters, although we are not (usually) trying to belt it out quite as much as a singer, we do want to have our full dynamic range. Those of you who've met me in person will find this amusing: I was always confused about "diaphragm control" exercises and whatnot when I was a kid until I met with a singing coach once my freshman year of college, and she told me that I do naturally what most people need to be trained to do. The downside, of course, is that when I just speak naturally, I'm loud as hell. :-) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Aaron Read | General Manager, WEOS 89.7FM friedbagels@gmail.com | Fried Bagels Broadcast Consulting Rochester, NY 14618 | (315) 521-0569 cell From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Jun 4 22:59:34 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 22:59:34 -0400 Subject: WGAN switches TV allegiances Message-ID: <21CAD713F3594E0EB13CA8C2C20DBD84@DanBillingsPC> WGAN has dropped its weather and news affiliation with WCSH and is not working with WGME: http://thephoenix.com/Portland/News/62772-TV-on-the-radio/ This is a big plus for second rated WGME. WCSH is the top rated TV station in Portland. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Thu Jun 5 01:38:22 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 01:38:22 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com><18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><48462921.1050604@fybush.com><4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044><18502.49126.209629.743286@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro><09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809878666F7@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com><4846ED38.8080400@gmail.com><4fc429770806041235k4b57ed3eh1eaa5dbe86bb4457@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806041245h75a0b3fds1731311077a0546d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ADD9B461D4046878AF3D9EF1741384C@MainXPPro> >> When did it become mandatory for a candidate to say I'm Homer Simpson >> and I approve this message. I'm not sure of the "...and I approve this message" part, but I recall that part of the "lowest possible spot rate" law, was the requirement that the spot contain the voice of the candidate. I think this was to distinguish ads purchased by political condidates themselves...and those bought by PACs and other advocacy groups. (I don't think PAC's or "Swiftboat Veterans" get the "lowest possible unit" rate.) I seem to recall when this started the candidate would simply do the final tag....("paid for by Nick Pickowicz, Sandy Burger fiscal agent") Eventually it morphed into "Hi I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this ad". Which not only sounded better, but also distinguished between candidates and Political Action Groups and unions. I don't know if having the candidates voice on the spot is a requirment anymore, but I believe it was one of the requirements needed to get the "political rate". From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Jun 5 02:18:38 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 02:18:38 -0400 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <4ADD9B461D4046878AF3D9EF1741384C@MainXPPro> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1> <48461FEA.3000403@fybush.com> <18502.9341.623800.996082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <48462921.1050604@fybush.com> <4C38CAA79E4D46539AF957C81C8EC0CD@SatU205S5044> <18502.49126.209629.743286@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <7D55A16D81824675A4B5B7D79DEE879A@MainXPPro> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE809878666F7@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <4846ED38.8080400@gmail.com> <4fc429770806041235k4b57ed3eh1eaa5dbe86bb4457@mail.gmail.com> <8bce0fe80806041245h75a0b3fds1731311077a0546d@mail.gmail.com> <4ADD9B461D4046878AF3D9EF1741384C@MainXPPro> Message-ID: <18503.34110.943362.244442@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Eventually it morphed into "Hi I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this ad". As I noted previously (in a message nobody seems to have read), this requirement was added by McCain-Feingold law ("Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002", P.L. 107-155, 116 Stat. 8). The change happened in this decade. -GAWollman From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Thu Jun 5 02:34:53 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 02:34:53 -0400 Subject: Fw: WMEX is Gone Message-ID: <031F7EBC4D3A46E98F1A97F7818D1FBF@MainXPPro> > >> Eventually it morphed into "Hi I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this ad". > > As I noted previously (in a message nobody seems to have read), this > requirement was added by McCain-Feingold law Well..it WAS a long bill..... Here is the pertinent part: "(D) Radio broadcasts.--A candidate meets the requirements of this subparagraph if, in the case of a radio broadcast, the broadcast includes a personal audio statement by the candidate that identifies the candidate, the office the candidate is seeking, and indicates that the candidate has approved the broadcast." From kvahey@comcast.net Thu Jun 5 02:44:55 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 01:44:55 -0500 Subject: Fw: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <031F7EBC4D3A46E98F1A97F7818D1FBF@MainXPPro> References: <031F7EBC4D3A46E98F1A97F7818D1FBF@MainXPPro> Message-ID: <4fc429770806042344n30f6524fw4475700b7a2f833@mail.gmail.com> Political ads are BIG business I was shocked to learn that Mitt Romney was the second highest advertiser on WHO in Des Moines for 2007 trailing only a farm supplier. Obviously New Hampshire media strikes gold every 4 years and that also seeps ito Massachusetts. From brouder@juno.com Thu Jun 5 06:36:02 2008 From: brouder@juno.com (brouder@juno.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:36:02 GMT Subject: Jim Mitchell - R.I.P. Message-ID: <20080605.063602.4978.0@webmail23.vgs.untd.com> The NH Union Leader reports longtime Boston news broadcaster Jim Mitchell was found dead in his Warner, NH store Wednesday June 4th. WBZ Radio news director Peter Casey is quoted as saying they believe Mitchell collapsed between 8:00-9:15 a.m. The article says Mitchell and his sister owned "Main Street Bookends," a book store in Warner. His Boston radio debut was at WHDH in 1979, but he anchored weekend news at WBZ for a decade. Mitchell was only 58. Funeral arrangements are incomplete. Ed Brouder Manchester, NH ____________________________________________________________ Save on hotels. Click here to find and compare hotel deals. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iiflKGC7qGzLjeTcrzpMfbgE4JZtHHLRq6ih9EK0TXiN3O71e/ From blainethompson@gmail.com Thu Jun 5 11:26:57 2008 From: blainethompson@gmail.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:26:57 -0400 Subject: EMF Financials and Standing While Broadcasting In-Reply-To: <4846C13C.80107@gmail.com> References: <4846C13C.80107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7bded94e0806050826k2a25802ela72b06326f0e91a@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Aaron Read wrote: > although this is in a suburb of Sacramento (Rocklin, CA) so I don't know > what the COL was in 2005 there. http://www.bestplaces.net/city/Rocklin-California.aspx - Blaine From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Thu Jun 5 11:55:30 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:55:30 -0400 Subject: Fw: WMEX is Gone References: <031F7EBC4D3A46E98F1A97F7818D1FBF@MainXPPro> <4fc429770806042344n30f6524fw4475700b7a2f833@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Obviously New Hampshire media strikes gold every 4 years and that also > seeps ito Massachusetts. I've heard the new WMUR facility referred to as "The house that Pat built....." (i.e..Pat Buchanon) From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Jun 5 12:54:45 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:54:45 -0400 Subject: Jim Mitchell - R.I.P. In-Reply-To: <20080605.063602.4978.0@webmail23.vgs.untd.com> References: <20080605.063602.4978.0@webmail23.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <002a01c8c72c$e0689d60$c7151bac@MasterExtra> I've been in that store, but never realized the guy was a news broadcaster. Nice guy, as I remember. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of brouder@juno.com > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:36 AM > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: Jim Mitchell - R.I.P. > > The NH Union Leader reports longtime Boston news broadcaster > Jim Mitchell was found dead in his Warner, NH store Wednesday > June 4th. WBZ Radio news director Peter Casey is quoted as > saying they believe Mitchell collapsed between 8:00-9:15 a.m. > > The article says Mitchell and his sister owned "Main Street > Bookends," a book store in Warner. His Boston radio debut > was at WHDH in 1979, but he anchored weekend news at WBZ for > a decade. Mitchell was only 58. > > Funeral arrangements are incomplete. > > Ed Brouder > Manchester, NH > > ____________________________________________________________ > Save on hotels. Click here to find and compare hotel deals. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iiflKGC7qGzLj > eTcrzpMfbgE4JZtHHLRq6ih9EK0TXiN3O71e/ > From Joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 5 15:56:06 2008 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:56:06 -0500 Subject: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <18503.34110.943362.244442@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <000601c8c4bb$7ecc5d30$6501a8c0@vpr1>, <4ADD9B461D4046878AF3D9EF1741384C@MainXPPro>, <18503.34110.943362.244442@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4847FE86.11430.56462F7@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 5 Jun 2008 Garrett Wollman wrote: > As I noted previously (in a message nobody seems to have read), this > requirement was added by McCain-Feingold law ("Bipartisan Campaign > Reform Act of 2002", P.L. 107-155, 116 Stat. 8). The change happened > in this decade. I think part of the idea was to force the candidate to take responsibility for the ads his/her campaign ran. Occasionally it used to happen that an ad would contain something inflamatory or improper, and the candidate would say that s/he never saw the ad and didn't approve of it, even when it came from that candidate's campaign. With the candidate coming on at the end saying that s/he approved the ad, it will be harder to deny responsibility for the ad. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From Joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 5 15:56:07 2008 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:56:07 -0500 Subject: Fw: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <031F7EBC4D3A46E98F1A97F7818D1FBF@MainXPPro> References: <031F7EBC4D3A46E98F1A97F7818D1FBF@MainXPPro> Message-ID: <4847FE87.9168.56465C6@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 5 Jun 2008 Don A wrote: > Here is the pertinent part: > > "(D) Radio broadcasts.--A candidate meets the > requirements of this subparagraph if, in the case of a > radio broadcast, the broadcast includes a personal > audio statement by the candidate that identifies the > candidate, the office the candidate is seeking, and > indicates that the candidate has approved the > broadcast." They don't usually identify the office. Nobody ever says, "I'm Harold Stassen, and I'm running for Dog Catcher, and I approved this ad." BTW, is dog-catcher an elected office anywhere? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Jun 5 15:31:52 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:31:52 -0400 Subject: Fw: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <4847FE87.9168.56465C6@Joe.attorneyross.com> References: <031F7EBC4D3A46E98F1A97F7818D1FBF@MainXPPro> <4847FE87.9168.56465C6@Joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <002e01c8c742$cf3fe820$c7151bac@MasterExtra> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of A. Joseph Ross > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 3:56 PM > To: Don A > Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: Fw: WMEX is Gone > > > BTW, is dog-catcher an elected office anywhere? > It's probably now "Animal Control Enforcement Engineer"! From billohno@gmail.com Thu Jun 5 16:40:16 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:40:16 -0400 Subject: Fw: WMEX is Gone In-Reply-To: <4847FE87.9168.56465C6@Joe.attorneyross.com> References: <031F7EBC4D3A46E98F1A97F7818D1FBF@MainXPPro> <4847FE87.9168.56465C6@Joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <48484F30.2070407@gmail.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > BTW, is dog-catcher an elected office anywhere? > > Here in the metropolis of Shoreham, Vermont, pop. 1200 soaking wet, we elect a town constable who takes on those duties. My dogs have come close.... Bill O'Neill From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Jun 5 17:17:30 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:17:30 -0400 Subject: WBZA towers: what's the latest? Message-ID: <01e401c8c751$909e9710$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Just wondering what, if anything, has developed in regards to the attempt to preserve the former Westinghouse building in East Springfield atop which the old WBZ (WBZA) towers stand. Any news? -Doug From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Jun 5 16:59:17 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:59:17 -0400 Subject: Fw: WMEX is Gone References: <031F7EBC4D3A46E98F1A97F7818D1FBF@MainXPPro> <4847FE87.9168.56465C6@Joe.attorneyross.com> <48484F30.2070407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000a01c8c74f$057ea9b0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> I lived in Royalston, Mass., in the '70s. The town had, and may still have, an elected and paid municipal hog reeve. (That was the actual title.) The guy came in handy: my car got charged one day by an angry bull that had gotten loose and came running out onto the main road from its owner's meadow. I called the reeve and he went and rounded up the critter. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "A. Joseph Ross" Cc: ; "Don A" Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Fw: WMEX is Gone > A. Joseph Ross wrote: >> BTW, is dog-catcher an elected office anywhere? >> >> > Here in the metropolis of Shoreham, Vermont, pop. 1200 soaking wet, we > elect a town constable who takes on those duties. My dogs have come > close.... > > Bill O'Neill From lglavin@mail.com Thu Jun 5 16:24:30 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:24:30 -0500 Subject: Laura Ingraham MAY Be Leaving Talk Radio Message-ID: <20080605202431.7BB1032675A@ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com> The Radio Equalizer blog is suggesting that Laura Ingraham MAY be leaving her daily talk radio gig to devote more time to television. As far as Eastern Massachusetts is concerned, this would be a problem for WNSH-AM 1570 in Beverly and WCRN-AM 830 in Woostah, both of which carry her live. The former promotes itself as women's talk radio, so it may be loathe to go the Glenn Beck or G. Gordon Liddy (ugh!) route. Wait, wait: there's a genuinely talented talk show host unencumbered by the y-chromosome who has a long track record in radio: STEPHANIE MILLER. If Laura is ankling radio, WNSH (and WCRN) could do worse! (Since WTKK runs the show on tape delay, they could plug in just about any bird-fed show). -- See Exclusive Videos: 10th Annual Young Hollywood Awards http://www.hollywoodlife.net/younghollywoodawards2008/ From billohno@gmail.com Thu Jun 5 18:31:15 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:31:15 -0400 Subject: Imus back in Burlington Message-ID: <48486933.3010504@gmail.com> Imus is back on as on next Monday, 6/9/8. The Zone (96.7/960/1320) is promoting the return of IITM. Burlington was always a loyal (while modest in size) audience for that show. Bill O'Neill / / From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Jun 6 03:28:45 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 02:28:45 -0500 Subject: Laura Ingraham MAY Be Leaving Talk Radio Message-ID: <20080606072845.A727783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> WNSH will pick up Stephanie Miller the day Howie Carr endorses Barack Obama (right, Keating? :) ) But who knows. What's funny about "Women's Talk Radio" is that the hosts after 6 pm are decidedly male: Michael Reagan, Jerry Doyle, etc. What might be more likely given Keating's political views is that if any Miller gets picked up it would be Dennis from Westwood One (starts at 10 am) From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Jun 6 14:54:06 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:54:06 -0500 Subject: Laura Ingraham MAY Be Leaving Talk Radio Message-ID: <20080606185406.88E2083BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Who knows--I thought that his Sat night DJ Antonio (who used to come on after Doug Mascott's local music show--I did some fill-ins for him) bought some time: "Not JUST another tailor shop, Antonio's Tailor Shop offers..." It's possible he may have local advertisers on but most of what he runs are national shows with national ads (get to carry the shows by running the ads...?) Talk Radio Network btw is not fussy about getting its shows on smaller stations in the same market/region as well as the big ones, thus you have shows like Ingraham, Doyle, and Savage running on the likes of WCRN and WNSH as well as WRKO and WTKK. From kwillcox@wnsh.com Fri Jun 6 17:00:17 2008 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (Keating Willcox) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:00:17 -0400 Subject: Laura In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200806062111.m56LBvBv027162@tsornin.bostonradio.org> > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Boston-Radio-Interest digest..." > >Today's Topics: > > 10. Re: Laura Ingraham MAY Be Leaving Talk Radio (Bob Nelson) > > >The Radio Equalizer blog is suggesting that Laura Ingraham MAY be >leaving her daily >talk radio gig to devote more time to television. As far as Eastern >Massachusetts is >concerned, this would be a problem for WNSH-AM 1570 in Beverly and >WCRN-AM 830 in >Woostah, both of which carry her live. The former promotes itself >as women's talk radio, >so it may be loathe to go the Glenn Beck or G. Gordon Liddy (ugh!) route. I will try hard to replace Laura with another woman, even if she is politically liberal. I am looking for another relationship show as Joy Browne does quite well. But I will miss Laura, she is great. My all time fave :John Bachelor. Would you consider him conservative or more of a McCain republican? >WNSH will pick up Stephanie Miller the day Howie Carr endorses Barack Obama >(right, Keating? :) ) But who knows. >What's funny about "Women's Talk Radio" is that the hosts after 6 pm >are decidedly male: Michael Reagan, Jerry Doyle, etc. > >What might be more likely given Keating's political views is that if >any Miller gets picked up it would be Dennis from Westwood One (starts >at 10 am) From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Fri Jun 6 18:40:45 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:40:45 -0400 Subject: Laura In-Reply-To: <200806062111.m56LBvBv027162@tsornin.bostonradio.org> References: <200806062111.m56LBvBv027162@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: <4849BCED.7030401@ttlc.net> Keating Willcox wrote: > My all time fave :John Bachelor. Would you consider him conservative > or more of a McCain republican? I consider him intelligent, reasoned and able to talk rationally about both sides of the political divide without ranting or foaming at the mouth. His selection of guests was interesting and he had several "guest" mini-segments where he talked for just a few minutes with that guest every day. Like they were "checking in." He also seemed infatuated with the "news cycle." I was sorry to see him disappear from WRKO. From lglavin@mail.com Fri Jun 6 13:54:31 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:54:31 -0500 Subject: Laura Ingraham MAY Be Leaving Talk Radio Message-ID: <20080606175431.C8A7C104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: "Laurence Glavin" , boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Re: Laura Ingraham MAY Be Leaving Talk Radio >Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 02:28:45 -0500 >WNSH will pick up Stephanie Miller the day Howie Carr endorses Barack Obama >(right, Keating? :) ) But who knows. >What's funny about "Women's Talk Radio" is that the hosts after 6 pm >are decidedly male: Michael Reagan, Jerry Doyle, etc. >What might be more likely given Keating's political views is that if >any Miller gets picked up it would be Dennis from Westwood One (starts >at 10 am) >From a recent sampling of WNSH programming, the only commercials airing on the station are for Endicott College and an electrician in Beverly... possibly the guy who wired his studio ande new transmitter? -- See Exclusive Videos: 10th Annual Young Hollywood Awards http://www.hollywoodlife.net/younghollywoodawards2008/ From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Jun 7 03:17:23 2008 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 03:17:23 -0400 Subject: Laura In-Reply-To: <4849BCED.7030401@ttlc.net> References: <200806062111.m56LBvBv027162@tsornin.bostonradio.org> <4849BCED.7030401@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0806070017y309ebb72ob3cba6bf6411e2bf@mail.gmail.com> Looks like he's doing Sunday night shows in both L.A. (KFI) and NYC (WABC) http://www.johnbatchelorshow.com/ He apparently does one show for the NYC audience, 7-10 Eastern, then does another for L.A., 7-10 Pacific. From aerie.ma@comcast.net Sat Jun 7 11:06:23 2008 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:06:23 -0400 Subject: HD Radio Station IDs Message-ID: <000701c8c8b0$0cd05bc0$3ffe3d18@aeriema> Checking around the dial while in the car this morning, I got to wondering if there has been a change in the FCC station ID requirements with the advent of digital broadcasting. It seems stations "do their own thing" in how they identify their digital stations. Some examples: "WBZ...WBZ-HD...Boston" Straight and to the point. "WTKK...WTKK-HD1....Boston" Aside from the alternating whispering female voices, still straight and to the point. "WXKS-FM Medford/Boston in crystal clear digital sound". ClearChannel is one of the supporters of HD, but they never mention "HD". "WZID-FM...WZID-HD1...Manchester, Nashua, and Concord." Did the analog station change its call letters recently from WZID to WZID-FM?? From wollman@bimajority.org Sat Jun 7 11:23:44 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:23:44 -0400 Subject: HD Radio Station IDs In-Reply-To: <000701c8c8b0$0cd05bc0$3ffe3d18@aeriema> References: <000701c8c8b0$0cd05bc0$3ffe3d18@aeriema> Message-ID: <18506.43008.410930.655970@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Checking around the dial while in the car this morning, I got to wondering > if there has been a change in the FCC station ID requirements with the > advent of digital broadcasting. The answer is yes, but the rules were amended in a very confusing manner that gives little guidance to stations as to what was intended. Hopefully the Commission will revisit this at some point. > "WXKS-FM Medford/Boston in crystal clear digital sound". > ClearChannel is one of the supporters of HD, but they never mention "HD". The rule does not mention any particular brand of digital radio. > "WZID-FM...WZID-HD1...Manchester, Nashua, and Concord." > Did the analog station change its call letters recently from WZID to > WZID-FM?? My interpretation: the "WZID-FM" bit is not part of the legal ID. The legal ID is the callsign ("WZID"), an optional mention of an HD subchannel ("HD1"), followed by the community of license ("Manchester"). Another recent change to the rules allows stations to insert a network affiliation into their legal ID. -GAWollman From radiotest@cox.net Sat Jun 7 11:26:32 2008 From: radiotest@cox.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 11:26:32 -0400 Subject: HD Radio Station IDs In-Reply-To: <000701c8c8b0$0cd05bc0$3ffe3d18@aeriema> References: <000701c8c8b0$0cd05bc0$3ffe3d18@aeriema> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080607112036.038d3960@cox.net> At 11:06 AM 6/7/2008, Jim Hall wrote: >"WZID-FM...WZID-HD1...Manchester, Nashua, and Concord." >Did the analog station change its call letters recently from WZID to >WZID-FM?? They did not - the calls are still WZID, and they don't have an outstanding app to change them. This is an error by someone at Saga, probably by someone in programming at the station. Programmers often don't understand that the ID must use the calls and COL exactly as given on the license. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html ____________________________________________________________ Stop foreclosure. Click here to stay in your home and rebuild credit. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3meXwbyUn30AYjZ4HmdNm9EPpUB5oy4SoMwj5oJWsG4in93I/ From marklaurence@mac.com Sat Jun 7 12:06:53 2008 From: marklaurence@mac.com (marklaurence@mac.com) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:06:53 -0700 Subject: HD Radio Station IDs In-Reply-To: <000701c8c8b0$0cd05bc0$3ffe3d18@aeriema> References: <000701c8c8b0$0cd05bc0$3ffe3d18@aeriema> Message-ID: On Saturday, June 07, 2008, at 11:07AM, "Jim Hall" wrote: >Checking around the dial while in the car this morning, I got to wondering >if there has been a change in the FCC station ID requirements with the >advent of digital broadcasting. It seems stations "do their own thing" in >how they identify their digital stations. Some examples: > >"WXKS-FM Medford/Boston in crystal clear digital sound". >ClearChannel is one of the supporters of HD, but they never mention "HD". Were you listening on an HD radio? Maybe Kiss 108 inserts the HD ID only on their HD signal. Mark From billohno@gmail.com Sat Jun 7 12:38:04 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:38:04 -0400 Subject: Legals Message-ID: <484AB96C.4000201@gmail.com> If a station runs a split feed (one to the analog the other(s) to the digital(s) there would be no need to mention the 'other' calls, no? And isn't it just a matter of time that this will happen once the new car smell wears off? Bill O'Neill -- I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio. /Rodney Dangerfield/ From billohno@gmail.com Sat Jun 7 12:43:00 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:43:00 -0400 Subject: Sportscaster Jim McKay Message-ID: <484ABA94.70805@gmail.com> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080607/ap_en_ce/obit_mckay Jim McKay has died. He was 86. Classy guy and the Olympics coverage has never been as good. Don't know of McKay's history but I have to assume he cut his teeth on the radio. Bill O'Neill -- I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio. /Rodney Dangerfield/ From wollman@bimajority.org Sat Jun 7 12:59:37 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:59:37 -0400 Subject: Legals In-Reply-To: <484AB96C.4000201@gmail.com> References: <484AB96C.4000201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18506.48761.847384.374771@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > If a station runs a split feed (one to the analog the other(s) to the > digital(s) there would be no need to mention the 'other' calls, no? There's only one callsign, and in any case they are not allowed[1] to run different audio on the primary digital subchannel versus the analog. -GAWollman [1] Not sure if this is a rule or just the terms of the Ibiquity patent license. From sid@wrko.com Sat Jun 7 15:00:51 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:00:51 -0400 Subject: Legals In-Reply-To: <18506.48761.847384.374771@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <484AB96C.4000201@gmail.com>, <18506.48761.847384.374771@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CA6@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>There's only one callsign, and in any case they are not allowed[1] to run different audio on the primary digital subchannel versus the analog. [1] Not sure if this is a rule or just the terms of the Ibiquity patent license.<< Sec. 73.403 Digital audio broadcasting service requirements. (a) Broadcast radio stations using IBOC must transmit at least one over-the-air digital audio programming stream at no direct charge to listeners. In addition, a broadcast radio station must simulcast its analog audio programming on one of its digital audio programming streams. The DAB audio programming stream that is provided pursuant to this paragraph must be at least comparable in sound quality to the analog programming service currently provided to listeners. (b) Emergency information. The emergency information requirements found in Sec. 73.1250 shall apply to all free DAB programming streams. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF/WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sat Jun 7 16:02:08 2008 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 16:02:08 -0400 Subject: Sportscaster Jim McKay References: <484ABA94.70805@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000401c8c8d9$5fa6bb40$0401a8c0@Family> of Jim McKay, Bill O noted - > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080607/ap_en_ce/obit_mckay > > Jim McKay has died. He was 86. Classy guy and the Olympics coverage has > never been as good. > > Don't know of McKay's history but I have to assume he cut his teeth on the > radio. Turns out as that as much as one might think Jim McKay cut his teeth on tv without pictures, he was a newspaperman turned TV guy - skipping the radio thing along the way. Although I do recall some radio sports pieces along the way in the 70's and 80's for ABC Radio, not unlike things Howard Cosell did. http://www.abcmedianet.com/shows05/sports/commentators/mckay.shtml Jim McKay helped to bring home the stark contrasts of athletic acheivements, the good and the bad, without ever going over the top. He was a consumate broadcast pro, able to self-regulate his volume versus emphasis. In sports, like a youth lacrosse festival I attended today, usually lives are not on the line based upon the outcome. In that one, dark moment of our contemporary sports history in Munich, lives were on the line - and Mr. McKay was able to keep it cohesive and as clear as possible, even with the news that the worst of possible outcomes had occured. The thrill of victory - the agony of defeat. 8 words that are ingrained on the psyches of just about anyone over 30, and were intoned by Jim McKay. - -Chuck Igo From friedbagels@gmail.com Sat Jun 7 17:08:14 2008 From: friedbagels@gmail.com (Aaron Read) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:08:14 -0400 Subject: HD Radio Station IDs Message-ID: <484AF8BE.7020803@gmail.com> In March 2007 the FCC adopted the Second R&O that codified many things about HD Radio, including the rules regarding legal ID's. At the same time, the rules adopted were actually quite vague in some ways. http://sujan.hallikainen.org/FCC/FccRules/2007/73/1201/ http://www.broadcastlawblog.com/archives/digital-radio-further-order-on-digital-radio-adopted.html I've quoted the relevant text from 73.1201(b)(1) at the bottom. Note the first and, especially, the third paragraph. All stations running HD Radio in hybrid mode (which is everyone...nobody's authorized to run all-digital yet) must make an identification so that the listener knows they're listening to a digital broadcast. Now, bear in mind that...for the moment...there's no such thing as an HD Radio-capable tuner that does not have a visible display. So to comply with 73.1201 a station does not need to *speak* "WXYZ-HD" as part of their legal ID. They need only have the call letters with "HD" displayed as part of the PAD/PSD on the HD broadcast (and that is something that *all* HD tuners will do by default) because analog radio listeners are not hearing a digital broadcast; only the HD listeners are. This is also true for HD multicast channels; they need only include it in the PAD/PSD, which makes it a lot easier to carry certain programming since you don't need to worry about legal ID insertion to the audio stream. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Aaron Read | General Manager, WEOS 89.7FM friedbagels@gmail.com | Fried Bagels Broadcast Consulting Rochester, NY 14618 | (315) 521-0569 cell ---73.1201(b)(1)------------------------------ Official station identification shall consist of the station's call letters immediately followed by the community or communities specified in its license as the station's location; Provided, That the name of the licensee, the station's frequency, the station's channel number, as stated on the station's license, and/or the station's network affiliation may be inserted between the call letters and station location. DTV stations, or DAB Stations, choosing to include the station's channel number in the station identification must use the station's major channel number and may distinguish multicast program streams. For example, a DTV station with major channel number 26 may use 26.1 to identify an HDTV program service and 26.2 to identify an SDTV program service. A radio station operating in DAB hybrid mode or extended hybrid mode shall identify its digital signal, including any free multicast audio programming streams, in a manner that appropriately alerts its audience to the fact that it is listening to a digital audio broadcast. No other insertion between the station's call letters and the community or communities specified in its license is permissible. --------------------------------- From wollman@bimajority.org Sat Jun 7 18:26:41 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 18:26:41 -0400 Subject: HD Radio Station IDs In-Reply-To: <484AF8BE.7020803@gmail.com> References: <484AF8BE.7020803@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18507.2849.270637.798536@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Now, bear in mind that...for the moment...there's no such thing as an HD > Radio-capable tuner that does not have a visible display. So to comply > with 73.1201 a station does not need to *speak* "WXYZ-HD" as part of > their legal ID. They need only have the call letters with "HD" > displayed as part of the PAD/PSD on the HD broadcast Other interpretations are possible, given the FCC's recent increased solicitousness towards the visually impaired. I could make the argument that using PAD is not sufficient, because it isn't ordinarily accessible to the visually impaired. That seems to be the approach most commercial stations have taken, whereas none of the non-comms here in Boston are identifying their HD signals in program audio. I think the Clear Channel stations actually have it right. The IBOC service does not have a distinct callsign from the analog service, so an announcement "broadcasting in Digital HD Radio" is most appropriate. -GAWollman From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Jun 7 23:40:43 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:40:43 -0500 Subject: Sportscaster Jim McKay In-Reply-To: <000401c8c8d9$5fa6bb40$0401a8c0@Family> References: <484ABA94.70805@gmail.com> <000401c8c8d9$5fa6bb40$0401a8c0@Family> Message-ID: <4fc429770806072040m58a7a71fjb29b2358274651a@mail.gmail.com> Showing my age here. Early in 1969 ABC Wide World of Sports invaded the ultra modern (cough) broadcast complex of WMUR at 1819 Elm. They were covering a World Cup Ski Race on a few hours delay and the closest entry point to ATT Long Lines was Channel 9. They parked a mobile unit with color VTR's in the parking lot and installed a switcher in master control that they wound up letting us keep. McKay was going to do voice over live and he used the announce booth that was also the office of Uncle Gus. He never once complained about the situation and just did his coverage of the race perfectly. His son Sean helped in the studio with graphics that we shot using the old TK-31's and of course I got a thrill that my camera was being seen by milions. Afterwards McKay made sure he thanked each of us personally. His teenage son Sean who was the gopher is now the President of CBS News and Sports. I ran into him a couple of years ago at Gillette and he remembered the high-tech Channel 9 complex vividly. RIP JIm From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Mon Jun 9 13:19:04 2008 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sportscaster Jim McKay In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806072040m58a7a71fjb29b2358274651a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <570638.50329.qm@web50803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Thank you, Kevin, for sharing your memories of Jim McKay. Though I never met Jim personally, I've heard nothing but praise for his total professionalism and his down-to-earth persona. I grew up watching "ABC's Wide World Of Sports" as a kid ever since 1964. The Saturday night hot-dog and bean supper would not commence until "Wide World Of Sports" ended at 6, with Jim McKay's declaration "....this has been ABC's Wide World Of Sports". I will never forget at the age 12 with the '72 Munich Olympic Games, watching the tragic events unfold on live television when McKay's solemn announcement that all of the Israeli athletes were killed by terrorists..... "They're all gone.". Even today (36 years later), watching that clip still gives me the shivers. RIP Jim McKay. Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** --- On Sat, 6/7/08, Kevin Vahey wrote: > From: Kevin Vahey > Subject: Re: Sportscaster Jim McKay > To: "Chuck Igo" > Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" , "Bill O'Neill" > Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 11:40 PM > Showing my age here. > > Early in 1969 ABC Wide World of Sports invaded the ultra > modern > (cough) broadcast complex of WMUR at 1819 Elm. > > They were covering a World Cup Ski Race on a few hours > delay and the > closest entry point to ATT Long Lines was Channel 9. > > They parked a mobile unit with color VTR's in the > parking lot and > installed a switcher in master control that they wound up > letting us > keep. > > McKay was going to do voice over live and he used the > announce booth > that was also the office of Uncle Gus. He never once > complained about > the situation and just did his coverage of the race > perfectly. > > His son Sean helped in the studio with graphics that we > shot using the > old TK-31's > and of course I got a thrill that my camera was being seen > by milions. > > Afterwards McKay made sure he thanked each of us > personally. > > His teenage son Sean who was the gopher is now the > President of CBS > News and Sports. > > I ran into him a couple of years ago at Gillette and he > remembered the > high-tech Channel 9 complex vividly. > > RIP JIm From billohno@gmail.com Mon Jun 9 13:25:57 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:25:57 -0400 Subject: Sportscaster Jim McKay In-Reply-To: <570638.50329.qm@web50803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <570638.50329.qm@web50803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <484D67A5.3010502@gmail.com> Peter Q. George wrote: > I will never forget at the age 12 with the '72 Munich Olympic Games, watching the tragic events unfold on live television when McKay's solemn announcement that all of the Israeli athletes were killed by terrorists..... "They're all gone.". Even today (36 years later), watching that clip still gives me the shivers. RIP Jim McKay. Not only was that a key point in world history, but it was a changing point in television. What was, essentially, a sports broadcast, morphed into a hard-news broadcast - and one that was more than sufficient. The world got a little more serious that day; when that happens, there's a 'ratchet-effect' in that there is never a complete roll-back. 9/11 was an obvious example. As for McKay, as integral that he was to any broadcast that he was on, he never made it about him. Someone McKay's his playbook and no one has ever recaptured it. Bill O'Neill From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jun 9 19:18:50 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:18:50 -0500 Subject: CBC loses hockey theme song Message-ID: <4fc429770806091618t7222856qde90c69b1d4cc360@mail.gmail.com> This is a huge story in Canada. CTV has bought the rights to the theme music of Hockey Night In Canada for $2.5 million. CBC has used the music for 40 years. www.globeandmail.com From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Jun 9 21:27:39 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:27:39 -0400 Subject: CBC loses hockey theme song In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806091618t7222856qde90c69b1d4cc360@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770806091618t7222856qde90c69b1d4cc360@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18509.55435.739671.2993@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > This is a huge story in Canada. CTV has bought the rights to the theme > music of Hockey Night In Canada for $2.5 million. > CBC has used the music for 40 years. The CBC decided not to renew the contract. -GAWollman From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jun 9 22:41:06 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:41:06 -0500 Subject: Sportscaster Jim McKay In-Reply-To: <570638.50329.qm@web50803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <4fc429770806072040m58a7a71fjb29b2358274651a@mail.gmail.com> <570638.50329.qm@web50803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770806091941r623b454aibb0811d97c7b3adb@mail.gmail.com> It was the only time I ever met him and what I remember most is how he did not bat an eyelash when he saw the announce booth that we had at Channel 9. The rest of the ABC production crew was horrified as they were led to believe we were state of the art. Munich was what he will be best remembered for and I heard him say that his most prized possession was a telegram he got the next day that said he was a credit to your network and our profession. It was sent by Walter Cronkite. Sadly ABC Sports doesn't even exist now as ESPN runs it now. From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Jun 9 22:48:57 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:48:57 -0400 Subject: CBC loses hockey theme song In-Reply-To: <18509.55435.739671.2993@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <4fc429770806091618t7222856qde90c69b1d4cc360@mail.gmail.com> <18509.55435.739671.2993@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: At 9:27 PM -0400 6/9/08, Garrett Wollman wrote: >< said: > >> This is a huge story in Canada. CTV has bought the rights to the theme >> music of Hockey Night In Canada for $2.5 million. > >> CBC has used the music for 40 years. > >The CBC decided not to renew the contract. From what I heard tonight, that's not quite true. The CBC, who had tried for months to reach a deal with the composer, was going to make one more attempt to negotiate a contract, when word came that CTV had made the deal. This from The World at Six (Pacific Edition), as heard on Sirius 137 tonight. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Jun 9 22:56:22 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:56:22 -0400 Subject: Sportscaster Jim McKay In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806091941r623b454aibb0811d97c7b3adb@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770806072040m58a7a71fjb29b2358274651a@mail.gmail.com> <570638.50329.qm@web50803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770806091941r623b454aibb0811d97c7b3adb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18509.60758.938992.835895@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Sadly ABC Sports doesn't even exist now as ESPN runs it now. In what way is that different? ESPN is an ABC product, and has been for more than two decades. (Hearst still owns a minority interest.) So the programming comes out of Bristol instead of New York -- what difference does it make to the viewer? -GAWollman From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jun 9 23:13:53 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:13:53 -0500 Subject: Sportscaster Jim McKay In-Reply-To: <18509.60758.938992.835895@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <4fc429770806072040m58a7a71fjb29b2358274651a@mail.gmail.com> <570638.50329.qm@web50803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770806091941r623b454aibb0811d97c7b3adb@mail.gmail.com> <18509.60758.938992.835895@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4fc429770806092013w56d231b2g406c4501012848ff@mail.gmail.com> I can't blame Disney for rebranding ABC Sports as ESPN now represents 48 percent of Disneys cash flow. Hearst is very quiet about their 20 percent but it gives them leverage when it comes to adding WCVB and NECN to cable syatems. It has never gotten as ugly as it did in New York when WABC vanished from Time-Warner for a few days a couple of years ago. From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jun 9 23:04:15 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:04:15 -0500 Subject: CBC loses hockey theme song In-Reply-To: <18509.55435.739671.2993@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <4fc429770806091618t7222856qde90c69b1d4cc360@mail.gmail.com> <18509.55435.739671.2993@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4fc429770806092004p6455d939i96bbfadc250eb9e8@mail.gmail.com> I worked many a feed for CBC out of Boston and there was a rush when the opening theme played. Hockey Night in Canada used to spare no expense when it came to production but that is when the sponsor owned it and just bought time on CBC. About 10 years ago CBC finally retained ownership and they have become very bottom line with the exception of giving Don Cherry whatever he wants. They would not even spring for a HD truck for playoff games in Boston his spring (about $10,000 extra) while the French network RDS did so. From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jun 9 22:29:34 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:29:34 -0500 Subject: CBC loses hockey theme song In-Reply-To: <18509.55435.739671.2993@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <4fc429770806091618t7222856qde90c69b1d4cc360@mail.gmail.com> <18509.55435.739671.2993@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4fc429770806091929h14923acdr46d3981bcaf41989@mail.gmail.com> It seems from reports tonight that CBC made a last ditch effort to keep it but the composer was angry at CBC over allowing ringtone downloads and not giving her proper compensation. On 6/9/08, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < > said: > >> This is a huge story in Canada. CTV has bought the rights to the theme >> music of Hockey Night In Canada for $2.5 million. > >> CBC has used the music for 40 years. > > The CBC decided not to renew the contract. > > -GAWollman > > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Tue Jun 10 02:54:04 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:54:04 -0400 Subject: Laura References: <200806062111.m56LBvBv027162@tsornin.bostonradio.org><4849BCED.7030401@ttlc.net> <1fbbbced0806070017y309ebb72ob3cba6bf6411e2bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Looks like he's doing Sunday night shows in both L.A. (KFI) and NYC (WABC) > > http://www.johnbatchelorshow.com/ > > He apparently does one show for the NYC audience, 7-10 Eastern, then > does another > for L.A., 7-10 Pacific. Why do you get the impression it's not a simple repeat on the West coast? D From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Jun 10 07:27:43 2008 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: ESPN vs ABC In-Reply-To: <18509.60758.938992.835895@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <84219.57738.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > > Sadly ABC Sports doesn't even exist now as ESPN > runs it now. > > So the programming comes out of Bristol instead of New York > -- what difference does it make to the viewer? > I cringe when I see/hear/perceive the ESPN on ABC bug/moniker/promo. It leaves a bad taste in the brain cells. I don't like the brand ESPN. John B Derry NH From kwillcox@wnsh.com Tue Jun 10 08:34:05 2008 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (Keating Willcox) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:34:05 -0400 Subject: Laura - you guys were right In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200806101238.m5ACYELw068670@tsornin.bostonradio.org> What?s up with Laura Ingraham? Affiliates are noticing that she?s been absent from the mic for the last week, and that her contract with Talk Radio Network is supposedly up in July. I hear TRN?s Mark Masters ? who happily signed Ingraham when she left Westwood and gave her a better daypart ? has put a new contract in her hands. But has she signed it? And if she hasn?t, is TRN using a common management tactic by keeping her away from the studio until she does, as a negotiating ploy? Her unsigned status leads to rumors that Ingraham too might be thinking about joining a new syndication unit that would include Sean Hannity and perhaps others. (Don?t count out Fox in all the speculation about Hannity, by the way.) Whatever the truth ? and I think the situation is day-to-day fluid ? the timing sure is interesting. Laura?s website carries this statement: ?Due to contractual obligations, for the present time I am unable to reveal why I am not currently hosting The Laura Ingraham Show. Rest assured, this absence is not of my choosing, nor is it health or family-related. I am ready, willing and eager to continue the conversation we started seven years ago about politics and the culture. Heck, if cancer couldn?t keep me off the airwaves for long, nothing will.? She also lists the email and direct phone number of TRN?s management ? doing a little negotiating of her own. from Taylor on Radio-Info from Radio-Info.com Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Beverly Women's Talk Radio By Women - For Women kwillcox@wnsh.com www.wnsh.com (617) 262-1119 FAX 978-468-1954 transmitter Beverly, MA Main Studio: 31 Woodbury Street South Hamilton, MA 01982 From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jun 10 09:15:10 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:15:10 -0400 Subject: Laura - you guys were right References: <200806101238.m5ACYELw068670@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: I suspect that you are about to be chastized by our moderator. He does not allow quoting in full from copyrighted material, which is what you did. As I understand it, such quotes violate copyright laws, even with the attribution you provided. Since you own radio stations you should understand. Tom Taylor's column appears on the Web, so you should have been able to provide a link to the full column while posting to this list only a few sentences of the item so that the list members could understand the sense of the full item even if they chose not to follow the link. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keating Willcox" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:34 AM Subject: Laura - you guys were right What's up with Laura Ingraham? from Taylor on Radio-Info from Radio-Info.com Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Beverly Women's Talk Radio By Women - For Women kwillcox@wnsh.com www.wnsh.com (617) 262-1119 FAX 978-468-1954 transmitter Beverly, MA Main Studio: 31 Woodbury Street South Hamilton, MA 01982 From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Jun 10 10:11:38 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:11:38 -0500 Subject: Laura - you guys were right Message-ID: <20080610141138.92E6083BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> >>Tom Taylor's column appears on the Web, so you should have been able to provide a link to the full column It does though one needs to subscribe by email (free) to get the column, so those who wish to read Taylor would need to do that. Even the archived past Taylor columns require one to be a subscriber. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Jun 10 12:07:56 2008 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:07:56 -0400 Subject: Laura In-Reply-To: References: <200806062111.m56LBvBv027162@tsornin.bostonradio.org> <4849BCED.7030401@ttlc.net> <1fbbbced0806070017y309ebb72ob3cba6bf6411e2bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0806100907y114cf430h5a09690855b26b6d@mail.gmail.com> On his site different topics came up for each show...Wikipedia says "On October 7, 2007, Batchelor returned to radio with a 7pm - 10 pm Eastern time show for WABC New York and a 7pm - 10pm Pacific time show for KFI Los Angeles." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Batchelor Go to Batchelor's site; not the same show. http://johnbatchelorshow.com/ From revdoug1@verizon.net Tue Jun 10 11:22:48 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:22:48 -0400 Subject: ESPN vs ABC References: <84219.57738.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00a101c8cb0d$d884e2e0$6501a8c0@DougDrown> Am I correct in thinking that ESPN is jointly owned by ABC and Hearst? How is the ownership divided? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:27 AM Subject: Re: ESPN vs ABC >> >> > Sadly ABC Sports doesn't even exist now as ESPN >> runs it now. >> >> So the programming comes out of Bristol instead of New York >> -- what difference does it make to the viewer? >> > > I cringe when I see/hear/perceive the ESPN on ABC bug/moniker/promo. It > leaves a bad taste in the brain cells. I don't like the brand ESPN. > > John B > Derry NH From kvahey@comcast.net Tue Jun 10 12:50:46 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:50:46 -0500 Subject: ESPN vs ABC In-Reply-To: <00a101c8cb0d$d884e2e0$6501a8c0@DougDrown> References: <84219.57738.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00a101c8cb0d$d884e2e0$6501a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <4fc429770806100950i2de2f7fdrdd5dcaa6d0202ee9@mail.gmail.com> Hearst owns 20% of ESPN. Strong rumors in Bristol that much of ESPN will be relocated to Burbank, CA into the complex that NBC is leaving. It is hard for ESPN to keep people in Connecticut. Disney itself is based in Burbank so a move there makes sense. From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Jun 10 12:47:21 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:47:21 -0400 Subject: ESPN vs ABC In-Reply-To: <84219.57738.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <18509.60758.938992.835895@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <84219.57738.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001201c8cb19$ad13b530$c7151bac@MasterExtra> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of John Bolduc > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:28 AM > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: ESPN vs ABC > I don't like the brand ESPN. Why? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From lglavin@mail.com Tue Jun 10 14:59:52 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:59:52 -0500 Subject: Letter To The Editor In Today's Globe Message-ID: <20080610185952.6D3CB1CE7C2@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> There's a Letter To The Editor in today's (06/09) Boston Globe that I feel entitled to reproduce in full because: (1) it's uncharacteristically short (2) links to items in the Globe become defunct rather quickly and (3) it's by me. Headline: "What's In A Name Change?" I read your story about the naming-rights switch of the Tweeter Center in Mansfield to the Comcast Center (Business, June 5) with fear and trepidation. Does this mean I'll be billed by Comcast for concerts I never attended the way I'm billed for TV channels I never watch? -- See Exclusive Videos: 10th Annual Young Hollywood Awards http://www.hollywoodlife.net/younghollywoodawards2008/ From theseacoast@maine.rr.com Tue Jun 10 19:03:55 2008 From: theseacoast@maine.rr.com (JohnOnTheSeacoast) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:03:55 -0400 Subject: WMEX Message-ID: <008c01c8cb4e$42b847c0$7601a8c0@code1.emi.philips.com> Gary James has emailed me and informed me that "WMEX-FM106.5" can now be heard again on the internet. I am tuned to it now and it sounds to me they are running pre-recorded shows from when the station was existing. It is good to hear them on the air, the jingle shouted "Shelly James" at the TOH and the ID was the same when for Farmington as when they were on the air. The website is the same one, then click on "Listen Live" at http://wmexfm.com John From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 11 00:05:16 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:05:16 -0400 Subject: WMEX In-Reply-To: <008c01c8cb4e$42b847c0$7601a8c0@code1.emi.philips.com> References: <008c01c8cb4e$42b847c0$7601a8c0@code1.emi.philips.com> Message-ID: <484F16BC.31382.66B332@joe.attorneyross.com> On 10 Jun 2008 at 19:03, JohnOnTheSeacoast wrote: > Gary James has emailed me and informed me that "WMEX-FM106.5" can now > be heard again on the internet. I am tuned to it now and it sounds to > me they are running pre-recorded shows from when the station was > existing. It is good to hear them on the air, the jingle shouted > "Shelly James" at the TOH and the ID was the same when for Farmington > as when they were on the air. The Website also seems to think that WMEX-FM is still on the air at 106.5. And the streaming audio doesn't seem to be working. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@comcast.net Thu Jun 12 00:20:04 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:20:04 -0500 Subject: is WBZ on reduced power? Message-ID: <4fc429770806112120u27ca415fr53f17def7bbff980@mail.gmail.com> For some reason WBZ is coming in very weak in Chelmsford right now and in the background I am hearing polka music. That to be coming from Chicago burbs but yet that station can not be heard in Chicago at night as BZ blows in there. From chris2526@comcast.net Thu Jun 12 00:46:13 2008 From: chris2526@comcast.net (chris2526) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:46:13 -0400 Subject: WBZ signal tonight Message-ID: <000301c8cc47$3eabcd10$1ee4184c@Chicken159> Also noticed an unusual amount of groundwave receiving first skywave fading on WBZ 45 miles north in Salem NH tonight but was unable to hear another cochannel, will check it out further. On occassion I have heard the same phenomena on WRKO at night about 22 miles NE of Burlington and identified WINR in the background From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 12 01:00:10 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:00:10 -0400 Subject: WMEX In-Reply-To: References: <484F16BC.31382.66B332@joe.attorneyross.com>, Message-ID: <4850751A.24876.958335@joe.attorneyross.com> On 11 Jun 2008 at 0:18, TheSeacoast wrote: > Gary's had it running, check your end. I just checked it again and it > is working fine. It is just after midnight. I haven't time to check it again, but what happened was that a WinAmp file got downloaded, but it wouldn't work. WinAmp said it was connecting to WMEX, but I never heard anything. And I've used WinAmp before without any problems. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From chonak@yahoo.com Wed Jun 11 20:35:07 2008 From: chonak@yahoo.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Laura - you guys were right Message-ID: <813852.30458.qm@web50012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Laura Ingraham's web site confirms today that her disappearance from Talk Radio Network's air was involuntary and announces that she's starting a new show on Fox News Channel Monday at 5pm, under the title "Just In with Laura Ingraham". See: http://www.lauraingraham.com --RC From blainethompson@gmail.com Thu Jun 12 10:34:05 2008 From: blainethompson@gmail.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:34:05 -0400 Subject: Touch-FM in this morning's Globe Message-ID: <7bded94e0806120734u1a3306d3p2483507135b216e7@mail.gmail.com> Read at: http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/06/12/black_station_tuning_out_static/ - Blaine From scott@fybush.com Thu Jun 12 13:14:14 2008 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:14:14 -0400 Subject: 106.5 NH/93.9 Maine question Message-ID: <48515966.3020406@fybush.com> Just a quickie for the list... Can anyone within range of the former WMEX (now WKHL) 106.5, and of WCYI 93.9, confirm for me that they're running EMF's K-Love service, and not their Air One network? s From jjlehmann@comcast.net Thu Jun 12 14:07:46 2008 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:07:46 -0400 Subject: 106.5 NH/93.9 Maine question In-Reply-To: <48515966.3020406@fybush.com> Message-ID: > Can anyone within range of the former WMEX (now WKHL) 106.5, and of WCYI > 93.9, confirm for me that they're running EMF's K-Love service, and not > their Air One network? I heard 93.9 during some tropo a couple days ago, and they were running Air One. I haven't heard 106.5 yet. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From paul@derrynh.net Thu Jun 12 17:44:00 2008 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:44:00 -0400 Subject: 106.5 NH/93.9 Maine question In-Reply-To: <48515966.3020406@fybush.com> Message-ID: <009901c8ccd5$6ed3be10$c8bc3f18@YOURF7ED5FB036> WMEX was Air-One when I checked last week... -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Scott Fybush Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:14 PM To: B-R-I Subject: 106.5 NH/93.9 Maine question Just a quickie for the list... Can anyone within range of the former WMEX (now WKHL) 106.5, and of WCYI 93.9, confirm for me that they're running EMF's K-Love service, and not their Air One network? s From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Jun 12 18:12:14 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:12:14 -0500 Subject: 106.5 NH/93.9 Maine question In-Reply-To: References: <48515966.3020406@fybush.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80806121512v50e697f5y7af2222a16c3fa1a@mail.gmail.com> The aircheck I have of WMEX from their last day has Dennis Jackson referring to it as "Air 1 WKHL".. but I've heard nothing since then. Paul On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > > Can anyone within range of the former WMEX (now WKHL) 106.5, and of WCYI > > 93.9, confirm for me that they're running EMF's K-Love service, and not > > their Air One network? > > I heard 93.9 during some tropo a couple days ago, and they were running Air > One. I haven't heard 106.5 yet. > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA > > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.radio-talk.net http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Jun 12 20:38:00 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:38:00 -0400 Subject: 106.5 NH/93.9 Maine question In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80806121512v50e697f5y7af2222a16c3fa1a@mail.gmail.com> References: <48515966.3020406@fybush.com> <8bce0fe80806121512v50e697f5y7af2222a16c3fa1a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: What is the difference? From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Jun 12 21:47:22 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:47:22 -0400 Subject: 106.5 NH/93.9 Maine question In-Reply-To: References: <48515966.3020406@fybush.com> <8bce0fe80806121512v50e697f5y7af2222a16c3fa1a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18513.53674.826916.624658@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > What is the difference? "Positive Encouraging K-Love" is EMF's original format, and leans Contemporary Christian. Air 1 is a newer, and somewhat smaller, rock network. To translate it into secular radio formatics, think "K-Love is like AC, Air 1 is like modern rock". -GAWollman From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Jun 12 20:47:33 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:47:33 -0400 Subject: 106.5 NH/93.9 Maine question In-Reply-To: References: <48515966.3020406@fybush.com> <8bce0fe80806121512v50e697f5y7af2222a16c3fa1a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80806121747j54b29201o23b2aedd8510b3ff@mail.gmail.com> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-LOVE *K-LOVE* is a Family Contemporary Christian music radio network in the United States, operated by Sacramento area based non-profit EMF Broadcasting .[1] The network's flagship stationis *K-LOVE* (94.3FM ), licensed to Winchester , Oregonwith a transmitter centered in Roseburg . K-LOVE makes heavy use of broadcast translatorsto spread the signal across much of the country. The K-LOVE station in Wichita (KTLI) - which K-LOVE owners purchased in the early 2000s - serves as the station reporter of monitored airplay by Mediabase 24/7, while the Chicago station (WJKL) is monitored by Nielson Broadcast Data Systems (BDS) whose data is used by Radio & Records. As of November 2006, the network lists 124 transmitters of various power levels (though some may be duplicates). 12% of the network's annual budget is dedicated to "signal expansion and improvement." K-LOVE plays artists such as Mercyme , Third Day , Steven Curtis Chapman, tobyMac , and the Newsboys, among others. K-Love holds frequent listener telethons and appeals to its listeners to contribute to keep the stations operating. Air 1 , K-LOVE's co-owned network, is generally more upbeat (akin to a Hot ACor Adult Top 40 format). On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Dan Billings wrote: > What is the difference? > > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.radio-talk.net http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Jun 11 15:22:03 2008 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:22:03 -0400 Subject: Were there really "good old days"? Message-ID: <20080611192213.18599C173@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> I posted this to another radio discussion list, but also thought you might find it interesting. Yesterday, a journalist friend (Clea Simon of the Globe) and I went to an Assisted Living facility to interview Mr. Bill Swartley, former GM of WBZ in Boston (both radio and TV) in the 1940s and 50s. Mr Swartley is a dapper man, and very professional in his demeanor-- he wears a jacket and tie even on the hottest day, and is very articulate about his recollections of radio. Oh, and did I tell you-- he's about to celebrate his 100th birthday. (We brought him a cake.) One of the things that made him sad was that 2 days ago, it was WBZ-TV's 60th anniversary, and unless we both missed it, the station said nothing about it. I find this lack of respect for history is all too common, as new owners buy up properties and fail to see the importance of heritage call letters or a longstanding reputation-- the fear, evidently, is being seen as (gasp) "too old" and the new owners want to show their younger listeners the love, while not focusing too much on the older demographics. But one of his recollections that really got me to thinking was about how Westinghouse treated its veteran employees. Okay fine, Westinghouse wasn't perfect and it could be as ruthless as any other company, I am sure. Some GMs are brutal, some are kind. It varied then as it varies today. But he said it was a policy that if somebody had worked for them a long time and then that person was seriously ill and couldn't perform their duties, they would still have a job waiting for them when they got back. Also, the company felt it was important to cultivate loyalty in its staff and reward people for being loyal to the company. I certainly agree with that assessment, and I am sure I'm not alone. I have hundreds of stories I could tell you about how I've been treated over the years, but rather than turning this post into an extended whine, I just found it interesting that Mr Swartley's chief puzzlements were that today's stations lack respect for a station's historic tradition, and that they seem to feel employee loyalty isn't important any more. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Fri Jun 13 01:51:07 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:51:07 -0400 Subject: Legit blog for Howie? Message-ID: Anyone have any idea what this is all bout? http://howie-carr.blogspot.com/ Looks kinda sketchy. Was this a legitimate site someone started (and abandoned)? Or is this a spoof? It doesn't look like any of the other blogspot blogs.... From kvahey@comcast.net Fri Jun 13 02:04:15 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:04:15 -0500 Subject: Were there really "good old days"? In-Reply-To: <20080611192213.18599C173@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20080611192213.18599C173@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770806122304o2104ed01ob2b885c64aded6a8@mail.gmail.com> Today WGN-TV celebrated 60 years of televising Cubs baseball and even did the first 2 innings 1948 style as the Cubs played the Boston Braves. It was a big deal for the station. Channel 4 made a big deal of it when they turned 45 and the special can be found on You Tube. However the 50th was loy key and I think it is because by then the station had become CBS and so much of the history was from NBC. I don't think CBS wants to remind viewers of Joyce and Lobie who played so much a part of recent history. There is no loyalty today as I have to muck things out as a contractor and everything is on a 1099. Benefits??? HA. But it isn't just broadcasting it is every industry. Look what happened to Poloroid. Yes the old days were better. From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Jun 13 02:35:44 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:35:44 -0500 Subject: Legit blog for Howie? Message-ID: <20080613063544.004B1CD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> Whomever "vgjkheit390" is, it probably isn't Howie. And they need to learn the concept of "the paragraph break". From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Fri Jun 13 14:14:37 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:14:37 -0400 Subject: Bidding for a writing job about radio personalities? Message-ID: Another interesting page I came across surfing.... http://www.grubstreet.ca/articles/adminstuff/briefbiosad150408.htm While the bidding deadline has passed...the ad is curious. What website might this be for? And I love this comment.... "We can't pay top dollar for this small project." "Two hints: tell us (i) why you can do this project and (ii) why we should award it to you." From gallen2@nescaum.org Fri Jun 13 09:01:29 2008 From: gallen2@nescaum.org (George Allen) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:01:29 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance Message-ID: A bit off topic, but DTV coverage has been on past threads. I just used my DTV box coupons by mail order [just before they expired] to buy 2 different models for different features. First one is here, a Magnavox TB100MGB, $80 before coupon and shipping. The web site specs said it had analog pass-thru, which is why I bought it. But it doesn't - it has both RF and RCA cable video out, but that ain't pass thru as I understand it... That said, the tuner is wicked. With just a junk pair of vhf wabbit ears tossed onto the shelf, this thing got every Boston DTV channel and then some the first time [no fussing with wabbits]. I'm in Swampscott near the coast [ http://hazecam.net/boston.html ] and can see the Needham towers, but this was on the opposite side of the house, looking east. This box beat the crap out of my LCD DTV from 1.5 years ago - a cheap 32" Mag [Staples black-friday special] that I have a powered inside antenna [$50] on, looking out the window at the towers. That setup has a hard time getting 25.1, 38.1, and 56.1 even with the Terc antenna [it can sort of get those with lots of fussing]. But 68.x comes booming thru, as do 2-4-5-7. So... Either ATSC tuners have come a long way in < 2 years, or I bought a hot product [not a silicon tuner btw] by chance. Next DTV box is a Channel Master CM-70 - it has s-video out but no pass-thru. $75 before coupon without shipping. Too bad they dumb these down to allow only 480i... -- George From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Jun 13 14:47:30 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:47:30 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18514.49346.492049.341533@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > So... Either ATSC tuners have come a long way in < 2 years, or I > bought a hot product [not a silicon tuner btw] by chance. I have heard that ATSC tuners are a lot better now. I recently bought an "Insignia" (Best Buy house brand, made by LG) tuner, but haven't gotten around to trying it out yet. My masonry-frame condo in Framingham is shadowed from the towers, but my old Zenith tuner was able to pull most of the signals out most of the time using only an indoor antenna. -GAWollman From m_carney@yahoo.com Fri Jun 13 15:03:28 2008 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance Message-ID: <791015.98014.qm@web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I bought the basic Magnavox model at Wal-Mart with my coupon and put it in the bedroom in my apartment (Framingham on Route 9). I wasn't expecting mutch since the TV isn't near the window, but with rabbit ears it too pulled all the Boston stations and subs with no problem. ----- Original Message ---- From: George Allen To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:01:29 AM Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance A bit off topic, but DTV coverage has been on past threads.? I just used my DTV box coupons by mail order [just before they expired] to buy 2 different models for different features.? First one is here, a Magnavox TB100MGB, $80 before coupon and shipping.? The web site specs said it had analog pass-thru, which is why I bought it.? But it doesn't - it has both RF and RCA cable video out, but that ain't pass thru as I understand it... That said, the tuner is wicked.? With just a junk pair of vhf wabbit ears tossed onto the shelf, this thing got every Boston DTV channel and then some the first time [no fussing with wabbits].? I'm in Swampscott near the coast [ http://hazecam.net/boston.html ] and can see the Needham towers, but this was on the opposite side of the house, looking east.? This box beat the crap out of my LCD DTV from 1.5 years ago - a cheap 32" Mag [Staples black-friday special] that I have a powered inside antenna [$50] on, looking out the window at the towers.? That setup has a hard time getting 25.1, 38.1, and 56.1 even with the Terc antenna [it can sort of get those with lots of fussing].? But 68.x comes booming thru, as do 2-4-5-7. So...? Either ATSC tuners have come a long way in < 2 years, or I bought a hot product [not a silicon tuner btw] by chance.? Next DTV box is a Channel Master CM-70 - it has s-video out but no pass-thru.? $75 before coupon without shipping.? Too bad they dumb these down to allow only 480i... ? ? -- George From billohno@gmail.com Fri Jun 13 15:35:06 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:35:06 -0400 Subject: Tim Russert Dead Message-ID: <4852CBEA.8030607@gmail.com> Just breaking on Drudge and NY Post reports that "has died after collapsing at NBC's Washington news bureau, a source said. He was 58 years old." Hasn't broken on TV yet. Bill O'Neill From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Jun 13 15:42:16 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:42:16 -0400 Subject: Tim Russert Dead In-Reply-To: <4852CBEA.8030607@gmail.com> References: <4852CBEA.8030607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18514.52632.740955.985151@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Just breaking on Drudge and NY Post reports that "has died after > collapsing at NBC's Washington news bureau, a source said. He was 58 > years old." The NYT confirms, citing family members. Damn. -GAWollman From billohno@gmail.com Fri Jun 13 15:47:32 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:47:32 -0400 Subject: Tim Russert Dead In-Reply-To: <18514.52632.740955.985151@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <4852CBEA.8030607@gmail.com> <18514.52632.740955.985151@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4852CED4.6010405@gmail.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > >> Just breaking on Drudge and NY Post reports that "has died after >> collapsing at NBC's Washington news bureau, a source said. He was 58 >> years old." >> > > The NYT confirms, citing family members. Damn. > > -GAWollman > > Tom Brokaw did the actual break-in on NBC and MSNBC just now. Very touching. Now, it's Brian Williams on MSNBC live from a US Afghanistan airfield with Andrea Mitchell in DC. Big Russ and Me was one of the best books I've ever read. And one of the only that I then went on to share with my dad. Apparently, Tim had been working quite hard. He was at work prepping for Meet the Press and other weekend duties. What a loss. Bill O'Neill From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Jun 13 17:12:47 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:12:47 -0400 Subject: Tim Russert Dead In-Reply-To: <4852CBEA.8030607@gmail.com> References: <4852CBEA.8030607@gmail.com> Message-ID: At 3:35 PM -0400 6/13/08, Bill O'Neill wrote: >Just breaking on Drudge and NY Post reports that "has died after >collapsing at NBC's Washington news bureau, a source said. He was 58 >years old." > >Hasn't broken on TV yet. Now being reported on MSNBC. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Jun 13 17:37:08 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:37:08 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance References: <791015.98014.qm@web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well, isn't Framingham closer to most of the transmitters than some parts of Boston are? For sure that's true of "27" and "66," which transmit from different locations in MetroWest, but isn't it also true of "2," "4," "5," "7," "25," "38," "44," and "56?" It's not true of "68," AFAIK; I think it transmits from the Pru. But even "62," which is licensed to Lawrence, seems to be on the candelabra. However, "62" is a special case; it's quite directional to the northeast and might not make it into Framinaham all that well. BTW, I've enclosed the channel numbers in quotes because in no case is the physical channel currently the same as the nominal channel (or whatever the official name is for the channel number you think you're watching--but aren't). And where is "34" located? I know it's in Spanish because it came in OK very briefly just once--in the early AM--but never before or since. I usually get the "no signal" dialog. The timing--early on a hot, humid morning--made me suspect that tropospheric ducting affects not only low-band VHF and FM but also UHF. I have an Insigna DTV converter box (same as a Zenith) and a Panasonic 26" LCD TV. Both are new within the last month. I live in Arlington Heights, just north of Route 2 near Lexington. Should be a good location; it's pretty high up--not too far from the top of Belmont Hill, but there is no line of sight to any of the transmitters. Both TVs have indoor antennas and both are located on the first floor of my house. I purposely bought unamplified loop/rabbit ears antennas because I thought an amplified antenna might be asking for trouble if I didn't need the gain and a log-periodic might be so directional I would have to adjust its location and position separately for each station. I went though LONG periods of playing to get satisfactory reception on all channels without having to move or reorient the antennas, and tiny changes in the antenna location or position can raise hell with the recption. Windy days can still produce audio droputs and video pixellation. Using the signal-quality indicators in both the converter and the TV can be very frustrating because the display does NOT update in real time; it's a couple of seconds behind. And there is a fundamental flaw in the design of the stupid DTV signal! The first thing to be affected by a weak signal is the audio. Video freezes and pixellation do not appear--sometimes for many seconds--after the audio has dropped out. The geniuses who designed the system must have been unaware or didn't care that the most important part of a TV program is the audio. If the audio is solid but the video is intermittent, it's generally no big deal. You can usually follow the content if you can hear the audio; the video is not essential. That's why people can actually listen to Sixty Minutes on WBZ radio, for example. The audio codecs need to be MUCH more robust even if improving them increases the audio pipeline delay and necessitates adding memory to the receiver's video chain to compenstate for the increased latency in the audio chain. Making these changes now that large numbers of receivers and converter boxes are in the hands of the public could be a nightmare, though. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Carney" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance I bought the basic Magnavox model at Wal-Mart with my coupon and put it in the bedroom in my apartment (Framingham on Route 9). I wasn't expecting mutch since the TV isn't near the window, but with rabbit ears it too pulled all the Boston stations and subs with no problem. ----- Original Message ---- From: George Allen To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:01:29 AM Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance A bit off topic, but DTV coverage has been on past threads. I just used my DTV box coupons by mail order [just before they expired] to buy 2 different models for different features. First one is here, a Magnavox TB100MGB, $80 before coupon and shipping. The web site specs said it had analog pass-thru, which is why I bought it. But it doesn't - it has both RF and RCA cable video out, but that ain't pass thru as I understand it... That said, the tuner is wicked. With just a junk pair of vhf wabbit ears tossed onto the shelf, this thing got every Boston DTV channel and then some the first time [no fussing with wabbits]. I'm in Swampscott near the coast [ http://hazecam.net/boston.html ] and can see the Needham towers, but this was on the opposite side of the house, looking east. This box beat the crap out of my LCD DTV from 1.5 years ago - a cheap 32" Mag [Staples black-friday special] that I have a powered inside antenna [$50] on, looking out the window at the towers. That setup has a hard time getting 25.1, 38.1, and 56.1 even with the Terc antenna [it can sort of get those with lots of fussing]. But 68.x comes booming thru, as do 2-4-5-7. So... Either ATSC tuners have come a long way in < 2 years, or I bought a hot product [not a silicon tuner btw] by chance. Next DTV box is a Channel Master CM-70 - it has s-video out but no pass-thru. $75 before coupon without shipping. Too bad they dumb these down to allow only 480i... -- George From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Jun 13 17:51:40 2008 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:51:40 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <547808B4C5AB4F5F8E1AE7A39E1E8115@DHPP0DB1> > But even "62," which > is licensed to Lawrence, seems to be on the candelabra. However, "62" > is a special case; it's quite directional to the northeast and might > not make it into Framinaham all that well. BTW, I've enclosed the > channel numbers in quotes because in no case is the physical channel > currently the same as the nominal channel (or whatever the official > name is for the channel number you think you're watching--but aren't). 62 transmits from the top of a building in downtown Boston, and sends most of it's signal west, towards Framingham http://www.fccinfo.com/ is a good website to easily see station's patterns. You can also get the coordinates, and post them into google. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Jun 13 18:17:18 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:17:18 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <547808B4C5AB4F5F8E1AE7A39E1E8115@DHPP0DB1> References: <547808B4C5AB4F5F8E1AE7A39E1E8115@DHPP0DB1> Message-ID: <18514.61934.246686.798421@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > 62 transmits from the top of a building in downtown Boston, and sends most > of it's signal west, towards Framingham 62 analog is on One Beacon Street, overlooking the State House. 62 digital (on RF channel 18) is located on FM-128 in Newton. Likewise, while 68 analog is on the Pru, 68 digital (RF channel 32) is on FM-128. The only DTVs not in the Newton/Needham complex are 66 (on 23, moving to 27) in Hudson and 27 (on 29) in Boylston. I seem to recall that one or both of those had proposed moving to Newton in the past, but that's not what they are doing for 2009. -GAWollman From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Jun 13 22:57:44 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:57:44 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <547808B4C5AB4F5F8E1AE7A39E1E8115@DHPP0DB1> References: <547808B4C5AB4F5F8E1AE7A39E1E8115@DHPP0DB1> Message-ID: At 5:51 PM -0400 6/13/08, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > >62 transmits from the top of a building in downtown Boston, and sends most >of it's signal west, towards Framingham Which does not necessarily mean that the digital signal has the same pattern, or is even transmitted from the same location. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Fri Jun 13 23:14:14 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:14:14 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: References: <547808B4C5AB4F5F8E1AE7A39E1E8115@DHPP0DB1> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80806132014g491eb2ew9fcfc6c39b1220dc@mail.gmail.com> However, in this case both WUTF Channel 62 Analog and Channel 23 digital with a CP for Channel 27 transmit from the same location. Paul On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Larry Weil wrote: > At 5:51 PM -0400 6/13/08, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > >> >> 62 transmits from the top of a building in downtown Boston, and sends most >> of it's signal west, towards Framingham >> > > Which does not necessarily mean that the digital signal has the same > pattern, or is even transmitted from the same location. > > -- > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.radio-talk.net http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Jun 14 00:02:18 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:02:18 -0500 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <18514.61934.246686.798421@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <547808B4C5AB4F5F8E1AE7A39E1E8115@DHPP0DB1> <18514.61934.246686.798421@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4fc429770806132102h339711d0u92f62cdb14e0b892@mail.gmail.com> Just curious You people with rabbit ears in Greater Boston how is the DTV signals out of Providence and New Hampshire doing? the VHF signals of 10 and 12 traditionaly had problems in Boston because of Great Blue Hill. BTW that is what WGBH stands for NOT God Bless Harvard as that is where their transmitter was for 15 years before moving to Channel 4 in Needham. From wollman@bimajority.org Sat Jun 14 01:06:42 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:06:42 -0400 Subject: Comcast not all that committed to CN8? Message-ID: <18515.20962.532344.665583@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> I just got my cable bill for this month (due in six days, natch). It included an insert announcing yet more lineup changes. "CN8", the former "AT&T 3", is being moved to a digital tier, on "channel" 188. I suppose that's slightly better than channel 3 from a branding perspective, but I wonder how many viewers will ever notice it there. They are also moving MSNBC and several services I've never watched to their "digital starter" tier (which is apparently the digital equivalent of "expanded basic"). I suppose it's time to resume the search for a CableCARD-equipped digital TV to replace my old 13-inch Zenith. It seems that Comcast is determined to make everyone rent STBs. -GAWollman From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Jun 14 01:20:30 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:20:30 -0500 Subject: Comcast not all that committed to CN8? In-Reply-To: <18515.20962.532344.665583@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <18515.20962.532344.665583@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4fc429770806132220y78535ce0g5f28e35fb0837fba@mail.gmail.com> I know that several long time staffers of what is now CN8 who were with the company as far back as Continenta Cable have been let go from the CN8 Brookline complex. This may or not be in play with Comcast yet..but a friend of mine lives in Anchorage and the cable company there has sent a letter and posted on their website www.gci.com that they have informed the FCC that they will be complient with new digital cable rules by December 31 2008. They inform the subscriber that as of Jan 1 2009 cable ready sets will no longer get service and a box MUST be rented for $2.88 a month. I have long suspected this is the plan for Comcast and other systems but this Alaska company is the first I have heard of actually doing it. On 6/14/08, Garrett Wollman wrote: > I just got my cable bill for this month (due in six days, natch). It > included an insert announcing yet more lineup changes. "CN8", the > former "AT&T 3", is being moved to a digital tier, on "channel" 188. > I suppose that's slightly better than channel 3 from a branding > perspective, but I wonder how many viewers will ever notice it there. > > They are also moving MSNBC and several services I've never watched to > their "digital starter" tier (which is apparently the digital > equivalent of "expanded basic"). > > I suppose it's time to resume the search for a CableCARD-equipped > digital TV to replace my old 13-inch Zenith. It seems that Comcast is > determined to make everyone rent STBs. > > -GAWollman > > From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Jun 14 01:45:39 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:45:39 -0500 Subject: Alaska cable conversion notice Message-ID: <4fc429770806132245s62f948dep751ad240784d52a7@mail.gmail.com> This is a link to what the Anchorage cable company is doing. May be just an isolated case but we have seen in the past that the big 4 Comcast, Time-Warner, Cox and Cablevision sometimes use smaller cable companies as a trial balloon. Any thoughts? http://www.gci.com/forhome/cable/basic_digitization.htm From blainethompson@gmail.com Sat Jun 14 07:16:08 2008 From: blainethompson@gmail.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:16:08 -0400 Subject: Tim Russert Dead Message-ID: <7bded94e0806140416p72748fffvf2842eea4cd84ddf@mail.gmail.com> Several NBC affiliates are reporting in their promotional e-mails to viewers that Tom Brokaw will anchor this Sunday's "Meet the Press." - Blaine From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Jun 14 07:46:50 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:46:50 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance References: <547808B4C5AB4F5F8E1AE7A39E1E8115@DHPP0DB1><18514.61934.246686.798421@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4fc429770806132102h339711d0u92f62cdb14e0b892@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Neither my Insignia DTV converter box, which I chose because the reviews said it had great sensitivity, nor my Panasonic LCD TV (date of manufacture 4/08) catch any Providence signals in the scan for receivable DTV signals. That's not to say they might not catch Channel "36" if I were to move the indoor antennas to the second floor. But even if I were to do that, I strongly doubt that the signal from that station would be good enough to watch without at least an amplified antenna and most likely an outdoor antenna. With the unamplified antennas in their current first-floor locations, Channel "9" (digital) is occasionally good enough to watch for stretches as long as 30 seconds or so, but it's usually a long wait before I get another little stretch of usable signal. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Garrett Wollman" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:02 AM Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance > Just curious > > You people with rabbit ears in Greater Boston how is the DTV signals > out of Providence and New Hampshire doing? > > the VHF signals of 10 and 12 traditionaly had problems in Boston > because of Great Blue Hill. > > BTW that is what WGBH stands for NOT God Bless Harvard as that is > where their transmitter was for 15 years before moving to Channel 4 > in > Needham. From markwats@comcast.net Sat Jun 14 07:57:19 2008 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:57:19 -0400 Subject: Tim Russert Dead References: <7bded94e0806140416p72748fffvf2842eea4cd84ddf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007701c8ce15$cdba8fd0$0202a8c0@Mark> Blaine Thompson wrote: > Several NBC affiliates are reporting in their promotional e-mails to > viewers > that Tom Brokaw will anchor this Sunday's "Meet the Press." That's correct, it's reported that it will be a special tribute show to honor Mr. Russert, who was the longest serving moderator of the "Meet the Press". Mark Watson From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Sat Jun 14 10:26:02 2008 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <703417.63120.qm@web50803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> And where is "34" located? I know it's in > Spanish because it came in > OK very briefly just once--in the early AM--but never > before or since. > I usually get the "no signal" dialog. The > timing--early on a hot, > humid morning--made me suspect that tropospheric ducting > affects not > only low-band VHF and FM but also UHF.> Digital 34 is WNEU-DT (Analog 60). They are running on the same tower as 60 (in Goffstown, NH atop the mountain, 6 miles west of Manchester) with Telemundo programming (NBC's network en Espanol). Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Jun 14 12:27:15 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:27:15 -0500 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance Message-ID: <20080614162715.E699E83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> A friend of mine is legally blind (can see but not well enough to drive, for example). He doesn't want to pay for cable but uses rabbit ears and recently got one of the converter boxes but hadn't hooked it up yet. The rabbit ears cost him $75 (!) a little while back and he has them up against the window of his Salem high rise apartment. Channels 2 and 4 don't come in at all; 5, barely, 7, well. Of the UHFs he has better luck, even picking up stations like Ch 24 (low power?) as well as 25, 38, 44, 56, 66, 68, etc. I don't know what kind of recep he'll get with the digital tuner (I think he got a Magnavox)--this is just with the rabbit ears. Will it be as good? By the way I don't know if this is a sign of the "digital wonderland" as Harry Shearer jokingly refers to on his public radio show "le Show", but yesterday my cable (Comcast) kept going out. No, not the whole thing, but while the description of the channel and program (I have the $4/month box--bought so I can record with DVD recorder) DID show up, there was a black screen and "the program will resume shortly" on each and every channel. Maybe a slight outage, or they were doing technical work, but is this a sign of the future? You're watching the very end of World Series, NBA Championship, or whatever, and suddenly the picture goes out thanks to this wonderful digital setup on your cable (or, if you don't get cable, you can't get a signal at all). So much for modern technology. That's Comcast-ic! :P) From dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Sat Jun 14 12:46:37 2008 From: dmoisan@davidmoisan.org (David C Moisan) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:46:37 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <20080614162715.E699E83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080614162715.E699E83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <46058E0CA4DF6F4A899F6C42261F76E91AB227468A@SLAPPY.dmproductions.local> I'm in an apt. near the train station in Salem. The rooftop antenna's decaying, so I have a UHF antenna pointed out the living room window looking SE. I cannot get any analog TV except for WHDH. I don't even have a working analog TV anymore--I watch from a DTV tuner card in my computer. Digital is very dependent on the orientation of the antenna, which would make no sense because most of my signals are SSW to Needham. (Back when the roof antenna worked, I could get WMUR, WENH and sometimes Ch. 8 but I don't consider that important.) The only signal that is completely consistent is WBZ-DT. I can mostly get WGBH-DT and WCVB-DT. If I orient the antenna just right I get WHDH-DT and WGBX-DT. I cannot get Fox (WFXT-DT) at all; they are on low power. That's a consideration to remember; many stations aren't fully set with their power and coverage for DTV. WFXT has to move antennas around on the candelabra from what I've heard. No coincidence that WBZ, GBH and CVB have the best ERPs on their DTV transmissions. I got a coupon and just tried to use it on a Zenith box at Radio Shack, figuring I'd find an analog TV in the dumpster and put off a new TV for a while. All sold out. My coupon expires next week; if it takes me six months to get a coupon, I'll just buy a new TV that I need anyway for my DVD. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:27 PM To: Dan.Strassberg; Kevin Vahey; Garrett Wollman Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance A friend of mine is legally blind (can see but not well enough to drive, for example). He doesn't want to pay for cable but uses rabbit ears and recently got one of the converter boxes but hadn't hooked it up yet. The rabbit ears cost him $75 (!) a little while back and he has them up against the window of his Salem high rise apartment. Channels 2 and 4 don't come in at all; 5, barely, 7, well. Of the UHFs he has better luck, even picking up stations like Ch 24 (low power?) as well as 25, 38, 44, 56, 66, 68, etc. I don't know what kind of recep he'll get with the digital tuner (I think he got a Magnavox)--this is just with the rabbit ears. Will it be as good? By the way I don't know if this is a sign of the "digital wonderland" as Harry Shearer jokingly refers to on his public radio show "le Show", but yesterday my cable (Comcast) kept going out. No, not the whole thing, but while the description of the channel and program (I have the $4/month box--bought so I can record with DVD recorder) DID show up, there was a black screen and "the program will resume shortly" on each and every channel. Maybe a slight outage, or they were doing technical work, but is this a sign of the future? You're watching the very end of World Series, NBA Championship, or whatever, and suddenly the picture goes out thanks to this wonderful digital setup on your cable (or, if you don't get cable, you can't get a signal at all). So much for modern technology. That's Comcast-ic! :P) From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Jun 14 12:59:11 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:59:11 -0500 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance Message-ID: <20080614165911.BE12983985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Ah--my friend's in Loring Towers (Vinnin Sq.); while he's on a low floor, the complex is on a hill. Fox not fully set with full powered DTV; ah. Some TV stations and networks are really starting to mention the changeover now; ABC is, for example, with reference to the website, etc., for more info The digital TV website mentions Wilmington NC will be digital only as of Sept. (test market?) https://www.dtv2009.gov/Wilmington.aspx Also the site has a chart as to when each coupon expires (90 days after issue date). March 31 of next year is the end date for coupon requests, I believe--IF supplies still last From gallen2@nescaum.org Sat Jun 14 15:20:45 2008 From: gallen2@nescaum.org (George Allen) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:20:45 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance Message-ID: I just fired up dtv box #2, a channel master cm-7000 [~$80 before coupon, s-video out], on wabbit ears on the 2nd floor of my house in Swampscott, facing the ocean, SSW. Blue Hill [I've got hazecams up there too ] is "in the way" of Providence, but 22 miles away. Again, for what this antenna sees, goto www.hazecam.net/boston.html . With the wabbit ears just tossed behind the TV and no fussing, this box pulled in a whole bunch of channels I'd never seen before, including the 2 main Providence ones [analog 10 and 12], perfectly. I suppose this isn't that surprising given the clear shot over the water from here. No NH stations [that I recognized at least] tho. There's a hill right next to me to the North, and a few walls too. -- George ____________________________________ Kevin Wrote: From: "Kevin Vahey" Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:02:18 -0500 Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance Just curious. You people with rabbit ears in Greater Boston how is the DTV signals out of Providence and New Hampshire doing? The VHF signals of 10 and 12 traditionally had problems in Boston because of Great Blue Hill. From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sat Jun 14 21:18:42 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:18:42 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001201c8ce85$c5c84db0$7d5dd24b@BrianVaio> Check out this article in USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2008-06-12-cable-digital_N.htm?csp=tech All-digital cable move may spark viewer ire Excerpted->Cable companies are eager to sweep away analog channels to make room for digital high-definition and interactive services. And Comcast ... is about to lead that charge with the industry's most ambitious ? and potentially riskiest ? effort yet to change the way cable subscribers watch TV. <- Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 +1-978-538-7575 +1-978-538-7550 Fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of George Allen > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 3:21 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance > > I just fired up dtv box #2, a channel master cm-7000 [~$80 > before coupon, s-video out], on wabbit ears on the 2nd floor > of my house in Swampscott, facing the ocean, SSW. Blue Hill > [I've got hazecams up there too ] is "in the way" of > Providence, but 22 miles away. Again, for what this antenna > sees, goto www.hazecam.net/boston.html . > > With the wabbit ears just tossed behind the TV and no > fussing, this box pulled in a whole bunch of channels I'd > never seen before, including the 2 main Providence ones > [analog 10 and 12], perfectly. I suppose this isn't that > surprising given the clear shot over the water from here. No > NH stations [that I recognized at least] tho. There's a hill > right next to me to the North, and a few walls too. > -- George > ____________________________________ > > Kevin Wrote: > From: "Kevin Vahey" > Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:02:18 -0500 > Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance > Just curious. You people with rabbit ears in Greater Boston > how is the DTV signals out of Providence and New Hampshire doing? > The VHF signals of 10 and 12 traditionally had problems in > Boston because of Great Blue Hill. > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1502 - Release > Date: 6/13/2008 7:25 PM > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1502 - Release Date: 6/13/2008 7:25 PM From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Jun 14 21:34:03 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:34:03 -0500 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <001201c8ce85$c5c84db0$7d5dd24b@BrianVaio> References: <001201c8ce85$c5c84db0$7d5dd24b@BrianVaio> Message-ID: <4fc429770806141834j473aa5d1r88ac6832c098e596@mail.gmail.com> I have suspected this was the plan for awhile and when I saw the Alaska company doing it it just confirmed it. Honestly the cable companies have no choice if they want to compete with satellite. I am not sure of the exact number of digital channels can be placed where one analog channel currently resides but I think it is about 10. Forcing millions to rent a box will be a nice piece of change for the cable companies. Cable is losing the batle in the burbs where people who have a clear view to the bird grab a dish. Many of those customers are also turning to Fios for internet and or cable. Still cable will rule for a few more years in cities where apartment dwellers have no choice but cable. Verizon admits they still can not deliver Fios to mult-dwellings at this time which is why they have not applied in places like Boston and Cambridge. On 6/14/08, Brian Vita wrote: > Check out this article in USA Today: > > http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2008-06-12-cable-digital_N.htm?csp=tech > > All-digital cable move may spark viewer ire > > Excerpted->Cable companies are eager to sweep away analog channels to make > room for digital high-definition and interactive services. And Comcast ... > is about to lead that charge with the industry's most ambitious ? and > potentially riskiest ? effort yet to change the way cable subscribers watch > TV. <- > > > Brian T. Vita, President > Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. > 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 > Peabody, MA 01960-5691 > +1-978-538-7575 > +1-978-538-7550 Fax > www.cssinc.com > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org >> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] >> On Behalf Of George Allen >> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 3:21 PM >> To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >> Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance >> >> I just fired up dtv box #2, a channel master cm-7000 [~$80 >> before coupon, s-video out], on wabbit ears on the 2nd floor >> of my house in Swampscott, facing the ocean, SSW. Blue Hill >> [I've got hazecams up there too ] is "in the way" of >> Providence, but 22 miles away. Again, for what this antenna >> sees, goto www.hazecam.net/boston.html . >> >> With the wabbit ears just tossed behind the TV and no >> fussing, this box pulled in a whole bunch of channels I'd >> never seen before, including the 2 main Providence ones >> [analog 10 and 12], perfectly. I suppose this isn't that >> surprising given the clear shot over the water from here. No >> NH stations [that I recognized at least] tho. There's a hill >> right next to me to the North, and a few walls too. >> -- George >> ____________________________________ >> >> Kevin Wrote: >> From: "Kevin Vahey" >> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:02:18 -0500 >> Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance >> Just curious. You people with rabbit ears in Greater Boston >> how is the DTV signals out of Providence and New Hampshire doing? >> The VHF signals of 10 and 12 traditionally had problems in >> Boston because of Great Blue Hill. >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1502 - Release >> Date: 6/13/2008 7:25 PM >> >> > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1502 - Release Date: 6/13/2008 > 7:25 PM > > > From hykker@wildblue.net Sat Jun 14 21:57:51 2008 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:57:51 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806141834j473aa5d1r88ac6832c098e596@mail.gmail.co m> References: <001201c8ce85$c5c84db0$7d5dd24b@BrianVaio> <4fc429770806141834j473aa5d1r88ac6832c098e596@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4854772e.2de2220a.3ff7.2bdc@mx.google.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: >Still cable will rule for a few more years in cities where apartment >dwellers have no choice but cable. Verizon admits they still can not >deliver Fios to mult-dwellings at this time which is why they have not >applied in places like Boston and Cambridge. There are lots of places where FIOS isn't available. A couple years ago when I lived in the Manchester, N.H. area FIOS availability was spotty at best. No one could tell me when it would be available in my town. Of course with Verizon having sold it's Maine/N.H./Vt. operations to Fairpoint the discussion is moot anyway. From rac@gabrielmass.com Sat Jun 14 22:59:48 2008 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:59:48 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806141834j473aa5d1r88ac6832c098e596@mail.gmail.com> References: <001201c8ce85$c5c84db0$7d5dd24b@BrianVaio> <4fc429770806141834j473aa5d1r88ac6832c098e596@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <485485A4.8060304@gabrielmass.com> On 06/14/2008 09:34 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Still cable will rule for a few more years in cities where apartment > dwellers have no choice but cable. Verizon admits they still can not > deliver Fios to mult-dwellings at this time which is why they have not > applied in places like Boston and Cambridge. They do offer it in my apartment building in Stoneham: they fed fiber through the complex about a year ago, and have offering service since October '06. I'd consider it, but I don't like the fact that they insist on disconnecting copper POTS lines to subscribers. --RC From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Jun 14 23:32:30 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:32:30 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <4854772e.2de2220a.3ff7.2bdc@mx.google.com> References: <001201c8ce85$c5c84db0$7d5dd24b@BrianVaio> <4fc429770806141834j473aa5d1r88ac6832c098e596@mail.gmail.com> <4854772e.2de2220a.3ff7.2bdc@mx.google.com> Message-ID: At 9:57 PM -0400 6/14/08, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > > >There are lots of places where FIOS isn't available. A couple years >ago when I lived in the Manchester, N.H. area FIOS availability was >spotty at best. No one could tell me when it would be available in >my town. Of course with Verizon having sold it's Maine/N.H./Vt. >operations to Fairpoint the discussion is moot anyway. Fairpoint has a different name for it but it's still the same thing. Here in Salem we can get Internet but not video. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From madprof@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun 15 00:13:52 2008 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:13:52 -0400 Subject: FW: RE: Springfield & original WBZ site Message-ID: <380-22008601541352515@ix.netcom.com> I asked the leader of East Springfield neighborhood committee (who was a primary person at the meeting I spoke to), and ..... no news, not necessarily good news. Bob Sutherland > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 6/14/2008 10:42:31 AM > Subject: RE: Springfield & original WBZ site > > I am awaiting some further infor... I expect in a week or so I will hear > something... I have been asking almost weekly..... thanks for your > interest.... Kathy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert F. Sutherland [mailto:madprof@ix.netcom.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:32 PM > To: kbrown5656@verizon.net > Subject: Springfield & original WBZ site > > > Hi Kathy, > I'm wondering if there's any news re the site, > any progress toward saving the Westinghouse towers; > news from the Springfield Chamber of Commerce, historical society, > or the developer. > > Members of Boston-Radio-Interest Email group are still > supporting the concept. > > I have to say that the reaction of people in the neighborhood, > to my presentation, was much higher then I'd hoped for, > thus giving hope for preservation of Springfield history. > > thank you, > Bob Sutherland > > From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Jun 15 00:16:48 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:16:48 -0400 Subject: Tim Russert Dead In-Reply-To: <007701c8ce15$cdba8fd0$0202a8c0@Mark> References: <7bded94e0806140416p72748fffvf2842eea4cd84ddf@mail.gmail.com>, <007701c8ce15$cdba8fd0$0202a8c0@Mark> Message-ID: <48545F70.6223.68F320@joe.attorneyross.com> On 14 Jun 2008 at 7:57, Mark Watson wrote: > > Several NBC affiliates are reporting in their promotional e-mails to > > viewers that Tom Brokaw will anchor this Sunday's "Meet the Press." > > That's correct, it's reported that it will be a special tribute show > to > honor Mr. Russert, who was the longest serving moderator of the "Meet > the Press". MSNBC said this morning that Tom Brokaw would anchor the program and that it would be a tribute to Tim Russert. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Jun 15 00:16:50 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:16:50 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806141834j473aa5d1r88ac6832c098e596@mail.gmail.com> References: , <001201c8ce85$c5c84db0$7d5dd24b@BrianVaio>, <4fc429770806141834j473aa5d1r88ac6832c098e596@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48545F72.25754.68FA15@joe.attorneyross.com> On 14 Jun 2008 at 20:34, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Forcing millions to rent a box will be a nice piece of change for the > cable companies. Cable is losing the batle in the burbs where people > who have a clear view to the bird grab a dish. Many of those customers > are also turning to Fios for internet and or cable. Just what is it that Comcast is doing? So far in Brookine, I haven't noticed much change. > Still cable will rule for a few more years in cities where apartment > dwellers have no choice but cable. Verizon admits they still can not > deliver Fios to mult-dwellings at this time which is why they have not > applied in places like Boston and Cambridge. Oh, THAT's the reason! I had heard that Verizon hadn't applied in Brookline, and I was wondering why. But why can't they deliver Fios to multi-dwellings? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From billohno@gmail.com Sun Jun 15 10:06:20 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:06:20 -0400 Subject: Tim Russert Dead In-Reply-To: <48545F70.6223.68F320@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <7bded94e0806140416p72748fffvf2842eea4cd84ddf@mail.gmail.com>, <007701c8ce15$cdba8fd0$0202a8c0@Mark> <48545F70.6223.68F320@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <485521DC.5010603@gmail.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 14 Jun 2008 at 7:57, Mark Watson wrote: > > >>> Several NBC affiliates are reporting in their promotional e-mails to >>> viewers that Tom Brokaw will anchor this Sunday's "Meet the Press." >>> >> That's correct, it's reported that it will be a special tribute show >> to >> honor Mr. Russert, who was the longest serving moderator of the "Meet >> the Press". >> > > MSNBC said this morning that Tom Brokaw would anchor the program and > that it would be a tribute to Tim Russert. // > What an amazing job this morning. Bill O'Neill // From sid@wrko.com Sun Jun 15 13:59:48 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:59:48 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <485485A4.8060304@gabrielmass.com> References: <001201c8ce85$c5c84db0$7d5dd24b@BrianVaio> <4fc429770806141834j473aa5d1r88ac6832c098e596@mail.gmail.com>, <485485A4.8060304@gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CDD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>I'd consider it, but I don't like the fact that they insist on disconnecting copper POTS lines to subscribers.<< They do no such thing. I know a number of people with Verizon FiOS, and all report that you can easily and without any hassle request that you keep your copper POTS connection. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF/WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From sid@wrko.com Sun Jun 15 14:02:07 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:02:07 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <48545F72.25754.68FA15@joe.attorneyross.com> References: , <001201c8ce85$c5c84db0$7d5dd24b@BrianVaio>, <4fc429770806141834j473aa5d1r88ac6832c098e596@mail.gmail.com>, <48545F72.25754.68FA15@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CDE@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>Just what is it that Comcast is doing? So far in Brookine, I haven't noticed much change.<< Slowly eating away at the analog cable offerings. Here in Stoneham, I've already lost GSN, CSPAN2, and a few sports channels. As of July 15th, we're losing CN8, TruTV, MSNBC, the various religious programming on cable channel 56 (Boston Catholic TV, Eternal Word Television Network, etc.) and Hallmark Channel. All of those channels are available on the digital service. Given everything I've been reading about this, the trend will be accelerating. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF/WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From m_carney@yahoo.com Sun Jun 15 14:09:10 2008 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance Message-ID: <796258.21119.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Fios is the prefered system in my building (in that management pushes it), but since I work for Comcast Sports Net and get cable for free I see no need to change. Not a lot of people seem to be taking up Fios - I see a lot of dishes and the Comcast trucks are there a lot. ----- Original Message ---- From: Richard Chonak To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:59:48 PM Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance On 06/14/2008 09:34 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Still cable will rule for a few more years in cities where apartment > dwellers have no choice but cable. Verizon admits they still can not > deliver Fios to mult-dwellings at this time which is why they have not > applied in places like Boston and Cambridge. They do offer it in my apartment building in Stoneham: they fed fiber through the complex about a year ago, and have offering service since October '06.? I'd consider it, but I don't like the fact that they insist on disconnecting copper POTS lines to subscribers. --RC From sid@wrko.com Sun Jun 15 14:33:10 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:33:10 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <20080615182228.35565104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080615182228.35565104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE1@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>I'm not a sports fan (I won't be watching the so-called big game tonight, and I taped the "Ebert and Roper-without-Ebert" show from channel 9 Saturday knowing that the Sunday-night airing will be delayed or absent, and I will probably view it while this game is on) and therefore would gladly make this trade-off: ok I'll rent your silly box IF you take all the ESPN's, Comcast Sports, Fox Sports, Golf Channel, and any others I don't know about off my system AND my bill.<< I'm no sports fan either, but sports on cable is BIG money and sports channels are among the most viewed cable channels across the board. I myself can't wait to see the Curling Channel and Darts for Dollars. :-) Within a decade or two, however, the whole question may be moot. Some cable industry analysts are predicting that cable TV will eventually become a Chinese takeout menu...pick the channels you want, and only those channels will be delivered into your home. The addressable cable box will be outside on the pole or underground in conduit, before the RG-6 ever enters your dwelling. The current crop of on-demand offerings are only the beginning. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF/WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From billohno@gmail.com Sun Jun 15 14:42:41 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:42:41 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE1@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> References: <20080615182228.35565104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE1@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <485562A1.3010702@gmail.com> Sid Schweiger wrote: > Within a decade or two, however, the whole question may be moot. Some cable industry analysts are predicting that cable TV will eventually become a Chinese takeout menu...pick the channels you want, and only those channels will be delivered into your home. What, no MSG?? Couldn't resist. Bill O'Neill From sid@wrko.com Sun Jun 15 15:00:54 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:00:54 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <485562A1.3010702@gmail.com> References: <20080615182228.35565104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE1@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com>, <485562A1.3010702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE3@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>What, no MSG?? Couldn't resist.<< Only in the New York City metro. (Well, you DID ask...) Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF/WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From billohno@gmail.com Sun Jun 15 15:03:51 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:03:51 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE3@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> References: <20080615182228.35565104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE1@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com>, <485562A1.3010702@gmail.com> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE3@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <48556797.1060508@gmail.com> Sid Schweiger wrote: >>> What, no MSG?? >>> > > Couldn't resist.<< > > Only in the New York City metro. > > (Well, you DID ask...) > > Sid Schweiger > Doh! From mamros@MIT.EDU Sun Jun 15 15:39:45 2008 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:39:45 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:59:48 EDT." <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CDD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> >>>I'd consider it, but I don't like the fact that they >insist on disconnecting copper POTS lines to subscribers.<< > >They do no such thing. I know a number of people with Verizon FiOS, and >all report that you can easily and without any hassle request that you >keep your copper POTS connection. Do any of the people you know who have FiOS live in a multi-unit building? We had some people from Verizon make a presentation about FiOS in our building (it hasn't been installed yet, but they're working on it), and they said that units that subscribed to FiOS would be having the copper lines pulled out as part of the fiber being pulled in; there's not enough room in the conduits for both. It certainly wouldn't be an issue for a house, but it is one here. -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Sun Jun 15 16:10:26 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:10:26 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> References: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> Message-ID: <48557732.3040105@ttlc.net> Shawn Mamros wrote: > We had some people from Verizon make a presentation about FiOS in > our building (it hasn't been installed yet, but they're working on > it), and they said that units that subscribed to FiOS would be having > the copper lines pulled out as part of the fiber being pulled in; > there's not enough room in the conduits for both. It certainly > wouldn't be an issue for a house, but it is one here. > I was told by a co-worker (lives in Melrose, MA) that if he wanted Fios, Verizon said he would have to have the copper removed - permanently i.e. he could not later change his mind and ask to be re-connected. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Jun 15 16:31:16 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:31:16 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <48557732.3040105@ttlc.net> References: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> <48557732.3040105@ttlc.net> Message-ID: Why would removing copper be a problem? From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Sun Jun 15 16:41:28 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:41:28 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: References: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> <48557732.3040105@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <48557E78.4070202@ttlc.net> Verizon's statement was: "If you want to go back to POTS, you cannot." Dan Billings wrote: > Why would removing copper be a problem? From kvahey@comcast.net Sun Jun 15 16:51:59 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:51:59 -0500 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <48557E78.4070202@ttlc.net> References: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> <48557732.3040105@ttlc.net> <48557E78.4070202@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <4fc429770806151351t644a9b09wbcb09080df16feed@mail.gmail.com> Friend of mine had Fios installed at his house in Woburn. He told me Verizon had 2 techs there for nearly 6 hours to get it working. That is way too labor intensive. Still Verizon appears to be lightyears ahead of ATT in getting it to work. The deployment in Chicago has been a disaster for the former SBC. On 6/15/08, Roger Kirk wrote: > Verizon's statement was: "If you want to go back to POTS, you cannot." > > Dan Billings wrote: >> Why would removing copper be a problem? > > From blainethompson@gmail.com Sun Jun 15 16:59:00 2008 From: blainethompson@gmail.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:59:00 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance Message-ID: <7bded94e0806151359x537a385ds47388198100206f3@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, Roger Kirk wrote: > Verizon's statement was: "If you want to go back to POTS, you cannot." The last time VZ was in my apartment, I made them keep the copper because once I move out, I have no idea whether the next occupant will want the Internet, or not. The VZ person was a bit shocked, but obliged. - Blaine From sid@wrko.com Sun Jun 15 17:05:29 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:05:29 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> References: Your message of "Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:59:48 EDT." <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CDD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> ,<200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE4@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>Do any of the people you know who have FiOS live in a multi-unit building?<< Yes, two of them do. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF/WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Jun 15 17:39:28 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:39:28 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806151351t644a9b09wbcb09080df16feed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0K2I006CMXI0AW30@asmtp023.mac.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Kevin Vahey > Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:52 PM > To: Roger Kirk > Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance > > Friend of mine had Fios installed at his house in Woburn. He told me > Verizon had 2 techs there for nearly 6 hours to get it working. That > is way too labor intensive. Unless you are paying by the hour, why should you care? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun Jun 15 18:46:29 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:46:29 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <48557E78.4070202@ttlc.net> References: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu><48557732.3040105@ttlc.net> <48557E78.4070202@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <000301c8cf39$a8c22380$ad00a8c0@BrianVaio> Its to prevent you from dumping Verizon if you don't like it. Once the copper has been pulled, its harder for a CLEC or ILEC (Competitive Local Exchange Carrier) to take your account. It?s the proverbial peeing in the pool. Right now, if I decided that I didn't want Verizon for my carrier but still wanted a basic POTS line (unlike the bastardized VOIP that Comcast uses, there are some other carriers, such as One Communications, in the market. They use facilities leased from Verizon to route the call to their switch. If the copper isn't there, you can't do this. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 +1-978-538-7575 +1-978-538-7550 Fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Roger Kirk > Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:41 PM > To: Dan Billings > Cc: Shawn Mamros; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance > > Verizon's statement was: "If you want to go back to POTS, you cannot." > > Dan Billings wrote: > > Why would removing copper be a problem? > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1503 - Release > Date: 6/14/2008 6:02 PM > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1503 - Release Date: 6/14/2008 6:02 PM From john@minutemancomm.com Sun Jun 15 21:30:07 2008 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:30:07 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CDD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> References: <001201c8ce85$c5c84db0$7d5dd24b@BrianVaio><4fc429770806141834j473aa5d1r88ac6832c098e596@mail.gmail.com>, <485485A4.8060304@gabrielmass.com> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CDD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <00a901c8cf50$82d4b310$6a00a8c0@johnster1> Sid my installation was stopped in it's tracks because of my ISDN line at home. The techs where not allowed to leave my copper and had no way to deliver ISDN over FiOS. I remain on Comcast today and anytime a Verizon sales person drops by they say the same is still true. John K1BOS -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Sid Schweiger Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 2:00 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: RE: digital converter box -- surprising performance >>I'd consider it, but I don't like the fact that they insist on disconnecting copper POTS lines to subscribers.<< They do no such thing. I know a number of people with Verizon FiOS, and all report that you can easily and without any hassle request that you keep your copper POTS connection. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF/WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1503 - Release Date: 6/14/2008 6:02 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1503 - Release Date: 6/14/2008 6:02 PM From sid@wrko.com Sun Jun 15 22:06:25 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:06:25 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <00a901c8cf50$82d4b310$6a00a8c0@johnster1> References: <001201c8ce85$c5c84db0$7d5dd24b@BrianVaio><4fc429770806141834j473aa5d1r88ac6832c098e596@mail.gmail.com>, <485485A4.8060304@gabrielmass.com> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CDD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com>, <00a901c8cf50$82d4b310$6a00a8c0@johnster1> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE5@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>Sid my installation was stopped in it's tracks because of my ISDN line at home. The techs where not allowed to leave my copper and had no way to deliver ISDN over FiOS. I remain on Comcast today and anytime a Verizon sales person drops by they say the same is still true.<< That doesn't surprise me, but then ISDN isn't POTS either. From lglavin@mail.com Sun Jun 15 14:12:04 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:12:04 -0500 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance Message-ID: <20080615181204.B219F104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brian Vita" >To: "'George Allen'" , boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >Subject: RE: digital converter box -- surprising performance >Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:18:42 -0400 >Check out this article in USA Today: >http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2008-06-12-cable-digital_N.htm?csp=tech >All-digital cable move may spark viewer ire >Excerpted->Cable companies are eager to sweep away analog channels to make >room for digital high-definition and interactive services. And Comcast ... >is about to lead that charge with the industry's most ambitious ? and >potentially riskiest ? effort yet to change the way cable subscribers watch >TV. I just received my Comcast bill...no concerts I didn't attend in Mansfield YET... and there it was: NO MSNBC AFTER JULY 15TH! Aside from channels 2 and 44 when they're not in begathon mode (and shouldn't the call letters for channel 2 stand for "we've gone bonkers her" rather than Great Blue Hill during pledge drives?) the TV channel I watch most is MSNBC, especially Keith Olbermann, who makes me laugh out loud more than Jon Stewart and Stephen Cobert do most nights. I can't write another letter to the Globe so soon after having one published, but I will try to call a talk show about this or send an email to one of the media columnists at the Globe or Herald. -- See Exclusive Videos: 10th Annual Young Hollywood Awards http://www.hollywoodlife.net/younghollywoodawards2008/ From lglavin@mail.com Sun Jun 15 14:22:28 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:22:28 -0500 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance Message-ID: <20080615182228.35565104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sid Schweiger" >To: "boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org" >Subject: RE: digital converter box -- surprising performance >Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:02:07 -0400 >Slowly eating away at the analog cable offerings. Here in >Stoneham, I've already lost GSN, CSPAN2, and a few sports channels. >As of July 15th, we're losing CN8, TruTV, MSNBC, the various >religious programming on cable channel 56 (Boston Catholic TV, >Eternal Word Television Network, etc.) and Hallmark Channel. All >of those channels are available on the digital service. Given >everything I've been reading about this, the trend will be >accelerating. >Sid Schweiger >IT Manager, Entercom New England >WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF/WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM >20 Guest St / 3d Floor >Brighton MA 02135-2040 "A few sports channels"? It appears that every sports channel except the ESPN Archives or whatever it was called is still on basic cable; I'm not a sports fan (I won't be watching the so-called big game tonight, and I taped the "Ebert and Roper-without-Ebert" show from channel 9 Saturday knowing that the Sunday-night airing will be delayed or absent, and I will probably view it while this game is on) and therefore would gladly make this trade-off: ok I'll rent your silly box IF you take all the ESPN's, Comcast Sports, Fox Sports, Golf Channel, and any others I don't know about off my system AND my bill. -- See Exclusive Videos: 10th Annual Young Hollywood Awards http://www.hollywoodlife.net/younghollywoodawards2008/ From lglavin@mail.com Sun Jun 15 14:27:10 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:27:10 -0500 Subject: Tim Russert Dead Message-ID: <20080615182710.747A6104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "A. Joseph Ross" Subject: Re: Tim Russert Dead Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:06:20 -0400 A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 14 Jun 2008 at 7:57, Mark Watson wrote: > > >>> Several NBC affiliates are reporting in their promotional e-mails to >>> viewers that Tom Brokaw will anchor this Sunday's "Meet the Press." >>> >> That's correct, it's reported that it will be a special tribute show >> to honor Mr. Russert, who was the longest serving moderator of the "Meet >> the Press". >> > > MSNBC said this morning that Tom Brokaw would anchor the program > and that it would be a tribute to Tim Russert. // > What an amazing job this morning. Bill O'Neill // MSNBC became virtually all-Tim-Russert-all-the-time from the announcement of Tim's passing until about 11:00. Considering that nobody could have been prepared for the event, they somehow got an immense amount of pertinent video seemingly without any mishaps, and on a Friday in June, managed to bring on so many people associated with Tim over the years. A great job. -- See Exclusive Videos: 10th Annual Young Hollywood Awards http://www.hollywoodlife.net/younghollywoodawards2008/ From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Jun 15 23:35:15 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:35:15 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <7bded94e0806151359x537a385ds47388198100206f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <7bded94e0806151359x537a385ds47388198100206f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4855A733.29515.BEA06A@joe.attorneyross.com> On 15 Jun 2008 at 16:59, Blaine Thompson wrote: > The last time VZ was in my apartment, I made them keep the copper > because once I move out, I have no idea whether the next occupant will > want the Internet, or not. > > The VZ person was a bit shocked, but obliged. Well, he at least said he would oblige. Do you know whether he actually did? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Jun 15 23:35:15 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:35:15 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CDD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> References: , <485485A4.8060304@gabrielmass.com>, <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CDD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <4855A733.21809.BEA26D@joe.attorneyross.com> On 15 Jun 2008 at 13:59, Sid Schweiger wrote: > >>I'd consider it, but I don't like the fact that they > insist on disconnecting copper POTS lines to subscribers.<< > > They do no such thing. I know a number of people with Verizon FiOS, > and all report that you can easily and without any hassle request that > you keep your copper POTS connection. What's copper POTS? My parents had some copper pots that we used to cook in. I think my sister still has them. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun Jun 15 23:43:09 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:43:09 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <4855A733.21809.BEA26D@joe.attorneyross.com> References: , <485485A4.8060304@gabrielmass.com>, <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CDD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <4855A733.21809.BEA26D@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <002101c8cf63$18b1b330$a3013b0a@BrianVaio> POTS - Plain Old Telephone Service - thus copper POTS would be phone service over traditional (copper) phone lines (as opposed to fiber or cable). Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 +1-978-538-7575 +1-978-538-7550 Fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of A. Joseph Ross > Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:35 PM > To: Sid Schweiger > Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: RE: digital converter box -- surprising performance > > On 15 Jun 2008 at 13:59, Sid Schweiger wrote: > > > >>I'd consider it, but I don't like the fact that they > > insist on disconnecting copper POTS lines to subscribers.<< > > > > They do no such thing. I know a number of people with > Verizon FiOS, > > and all report that you can easily and without any hassle > request that > > you keep your copper POTS connection. > > What's copper POTS? My parents had some copper pots that we > used to cook in. I think my sister still has them. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 > http://www.attorneyross.com > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1503 - Release > Date: 6/14/2008 6:02 PM > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1503 - Release Date: 6/14/2008 6:02 PM From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Jun 16 00:29:48 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:29:48 -0500 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance Message-ID: <20080616042948.54A23CD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> And one again tonight there was an instance here in Beverly where there was a black screen/no sound and "the programming will resume shortly"--on ALL channels. I was watching a re-broadcast of Meet the Press and also the Celtics game, going back and forth--even checking out part of the Tony Awards too. It lasted a minute or so then all channels were back. Can you imagine: --"and the jump shot as the clock runs out, and the Celtics--" (PICTURE GOES BLACK, SOUND GOES OUT) --"and the Tony Award goes to..." (PICTURE GOES BLACK, SOUND GOES OUT) It's Comcast-ic, the future of cable TV. >>NO MSNBC AFTER JULY 15TH! No word if they will also remove Fox News...that's OK though; maybe that distinguished, serious, unbiased Keith Olbermann will wind up hosting Meet The Press on regular NBC... (/ sarcasm ) From blainethompson@gmail.com Mon Jun 16 06:36:42 2008 From: blainethompson@gmail.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:36:42 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <4855A733.29515.BEA06A@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <7bded94e0806151359x537a385ds47388198100206f3@mail.gmail.com> <4855A733.29515.BEA06A@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <7bded94e0806160336o14012327ic9c1213f63fecb@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:35 PM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 15 Jun 2008 at 16:59, Blaine Thompson wrote: > > > The last time VZ was in my apartment, I made them keep the copper > > because once I move out, I have no idea whether the next occupant will > > want the Internet, or not. > > > > The VZ person was a bit shocked, but obliged. > > Well, he at least said he would oblige. Do you know whether he > actually did? > > I believe he actually did. But I'm not 100% sure. - Blaine From john@minutemancomm.com Mon Jun 16 07:25:06 2008 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 07:25:06 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE5@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> References: <001201c8ce85$c5c84db0$7d5dd24b@BrianVaio><4fc429770806141834j473aa5d1r88ac6832c098e596@mail.gmail.com>, <485485A4.8060304@gabrielmass.com><09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CDD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com>, <00a901c8cf50$82d4b310$6a00a8c0@johnster1> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE5@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <005101c8cfa3$a1345740$6a00a8c0@johnster1> Well I guess I misread your earlier post. In my area they will not let your copper remain for any purpose. Yes they can deliver POTS over FiOS but if you have an existing service that requires copper (in the home anyways) they aren't interested in you as a customer. If they can't remove the copper the installation stops. John K1BOS -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Sid Schweiger Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:06 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: RE: digital converter box -- surprising performance >>Sid my installation was stopped in it's tracks because of my ISDN line >>at home. The techs where not allowed to leave my copper and had no way to deliver ISDN over FiOS. I remain on Comcast today and anytime a Verizon sales person drops by they say the same is still true.<< That doesn't surprise me, but then ISDN isn't POTS either. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1503 - Release Date: 6/14/2008 6:02 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1503 - Release Date: 6/14/2008 6:02 PM From rogerkola@aol.com Mon Jun 16 08:27:41 2008 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:27:41 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance References: <001201c8ce85$c5c84db0$7d5dd24b@BrianVaio><4fc429770806141834j473aa5d1r88ac6832c098e596@mail.gmail.com>, <485485A4.8060304@gabrielmass.com><09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CDD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com>, <00a901c8cf50$82d4b310$6a00a8c0@johnster1><09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE5@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <005101c8cfa3$a1345740$6a00a8c0@johnster1> Message-ID: <002101c8cfac$6158e740$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Just a quick story and a thought...about a month ago I found that every morning my POTS phone line would have a hum on it and no dialtone...so I started calling repair...two weeks later, on a Sunday, a linesperson, who said she wasn't busy, finally fixed the problem by routing a new pair 2 miles to the switch. In those 2 weeks I had visits every day from repair people would bucket up to the pole and shake their heads and slap some temporary fix that would last until the next morning. I even was hooked to another guy's line for several days to give me dialtone. (He was kind of upset BTW) Bottom line...from the linespeople...no repairs had been done to the copper in 10 years...all the "good" pairs were used up...there were several "bad" pairs with "hum on them''...and the records were in such a disarray that the rest of the pairs got "lost" between the house and the 2 miles to the switch. Pulling "house drops" frees up pairs so that the phone company can continue to provide POTS without major repairs on the aging copper by using only the "good pairs." The "last 1/4 mile" solution is the most expensive for the phone companies, and with the high installation cost and monthly expense for FIOS, the transition from copper is going to be very painful. Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Mullaney" To: "'Sid Schweiger'" ; Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:25 AM Subject: RE: digital converter box -- surprising performance > Well I guess I misread your earlier post. In my area they will not let your > copper remain for any purpose. > Yes they can deliver POTS over FiOS but if you have an existing service that > requires copper (in the home anyways) they aren't interested in you as a > customer. If they can't remove the copper the installation stops. > > John K1BOS > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Sid Schweiger > Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:06 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: RE: digital converter box -- surprising performance > > >>Sid my installation was stopped in it's tracks because of my ISDN line > >>at > home. The techs where not allowed to leave my copper and had no way to > deliver ISDN over FiOS. I remain on Comcast today and anytime a Verizon > sales person drops by they say the same is still true.<< > > That doesn't surprise me, but then ISDN isn't POTS either. > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1503 - Release Date: 6/14/2008 > 6:02 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1503 - Release Date: 6/14/2008 > 6:02 PM > > > From m_carney@yahoo.com Mon Jun 16 09:50:45 2008 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance Message-ID: <329927.88708.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> And the Buffalo area (they did take over Empire Sports) ----- Original Message ---- From: Sid Schweiger To: "boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org" Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:00:54 PM Subject: RE: digital converter box -- surprising performance >>What, no MSG?? Couldn't resist.<< Only in the New York City metro. (Well, you DID ask...) Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF/WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA? 02135-2040 From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Jun 16 10:40:37 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:40:37 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance References: <329927.88708.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2F82C4D1270B498B87F8874DC8EA1768@SatU205S5044> If you trust WikiPedia, here is the scoop on the MSG Network: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSG_Network I was unable to confirm that MSG rebroadcasts Ming Tsai's PBS cooking show;>) ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Carney" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:50 AM Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance And the Buffalo area (they did take over Empire Sports) ----- Original Message ---- From: Sid Schweiger To: "boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org" Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:00:54 PM Subject: RE: digital converter box -- surprising performance >>What, no MSG?? Couldn't resist.<< Only in the New York City metro. (Well, you DID ask...) Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF/WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From abruzzese@biochem.bumc.bu.edu Mon Jun 16 12:15:52 2008 From: abruzzese@biochem.bumc.bu.edu (Tony Abruzzese) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:15:52 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: References: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> <48557732.3040105@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <485691B8.8080500@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> On 6/15/08 4:31 PM, Dan Billings wrote: > Why would removing copper be a problem? > > > I recently switched back to Verizon for POTS rather than go with Comcast"s Digital VOIP service. Here is the way it was explained to me by the Verizon tech when I asked about upgrading to FIOS when it becomes available. The phone company delivers power for your phone line over the copper. In the event of a general power failure, your copper-based land line still works. Note that this is only true for handsets that are hard wired to the system... Your cordless phone base stations are still dependent on house power. FIOS based service is dependent on power from your home, instead of the phone company. In the event of a power failure, the FIOS box goes down, taking your phone down, along with internet and TV. Supposedly, Verizon is working with their vendors to engineer a battery backup system for their FIOS interface box, so that customers do not lose phone service in the event of a power failure, but they don't currently have a solution. Further, he said that the network is fiber to your house and the interface box. From there, internet and TV are delivered over twisted pair ethernet cable (CAT5, IIRC), instead of co-ax cable, so you would need a set-top box for each TV connected to FIOS for even the most basic service. -- Tony Abruzzese BUSM Dept of Biochemistry From sid@wrko.com Mon Jun 16 13:01:00 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:01:00 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <485691B8.8080500@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> References: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> <48557732.3040105@ttlc.net> , <485691B8.8080500@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE8@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>In the event of a power failure, the FIOS box goes down, taking your phone down, along with internet and TV. Supposedly, Verizon is working with their vendors to engineer a battery backup system for their FIOS interface box, so that customers do not lose phone service in the event of a power failure, but they don't currently have a solution.<< They've gotta be kidding. This is something they have to engineer? Purchasing small UPS's from APC or another manufacturer, in bulk, would cost the customer next to nothing. I don't know what the power requirements of the fiber-to-Ethernet converter are, but a UPS would likely power the box for enough time to outlast the typical power failure, which isn't that long. A UPS doesn't have to be mandatory, either, for people who have a cell phone and who therefore won't mind losing their FiOS landline for the length of a power failure. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF/WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From abruzzese@biochem.bumc.bu.edu Mon Jun 16 14:03:04 2008 From: abruzzese@biochem.bumc.bu.edu (Tony Abruzzese) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:03:04 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE8@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> References: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> <48557732.3040105@ttlc.net> , <485691B8.8080500@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE8@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <4856AAD8.3050208@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> On 6/16/08 1:01 PM, Sid Schweiger wrote: > They've gotta be kidding. This is something they have to engineer? Purchasing small UPS's from APC or another manufacturer, in bulk, would cost the customer next to nothing. I don't know what the power requirements of the fiber-to-Ethernet converter are, but a UPS would likely power the box for enough time to outlast the typical power failure, which isn't that long. A UPS doesn't have to be mandatory, either, for people who have a cell phone and who therefore won't mind losing their FiOS landline for the length of a power failure. > > Agreed to all of the above. The implication was that they were working on an all-in-one unit. While a UPS would certainly work, they really aren't designed for installation in an unheated garage, utility room or unfinished basement (i.e. varying conditions of heat, cold, and or damp). Most, especially the inexpensive ones, are designed to be used indoors in an office/living space environment. As to losing the land-line, cell phones aren't always the answer. My town makes use of the reverse 911 system for a variety of community alerts. That system calls the local exchange phone numbers, all land lines, but doesn't call cell phones. -- Tony Abruzzese BUSM Dept of Biochemistry From Joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jun 16 15:10:05 2008 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:10:05 -0500 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <20080616042948.54A23CD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080616042948.54A23CD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4856743D.12376.244825@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 15 Jun 2008 Bob Nelson wrote: > And one again tonight there was an instance here in Beverly where > there was a black screen/no sound and "the programming will resume > shortly"--on ALL channels. I was watching a re-broadcast of Meet the > Press and also the Celtics game, going back and forth--even checking > out part of the Tony Awards too. It lasted a minute or so then all > channels were back. I've had cable outages on rare occasions, and they haven't lasted long. If' you're having them that often, you really ought to call and report the problem. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Jun 16 14:28:59 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:28:59 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <4856AAD8.3050208@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> References: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> <48557732.3040105@ttlc.net> <485691B8.8080500@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE8@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <4856AAD8.3050208@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> Message-ID: <18518.45291.476342.727968@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > The implication was that they were working on an all-in-one > unit. While a UPS would certainly work, they really aren't designed > for installation in an unheated garage, utility room or unfinished > basement (i.e. varying conditions of heat, cold, and or damp). The "Comcast Digital Voice" head unit has a sealed battery built in. I have no idea if Comcast plans to replace them every four years as is likely required. -GAWollman From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Mon Jun 16 14:54:58 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:54:58 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <18518.45291.476342.727968@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> <48557732.3040105@ttlc.net> <485691B8.8080500@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE8@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <4856AAD8.3050208@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <18518.45291.476342.727968@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4856B702.7060309@ttlc.net> Regardless of what power supply outage protection might exist on the customer's premises; with Fios, does a comparable power uninterrupability exist from the CO all the way through the "last 1/4 mile?" Including cable repeaters, multiplexers, de-multiplexers, etc. From the CO's batteries to my phone, unbroken copper is still my best low-tech bet. From stubrennan@comcast.net Mon Jun 16 14:39:50 2008 From: stubrennan@comcast.net (Stu Brennan) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:39:50 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance Message-ID: <000001c8cfe0$5d02d5f0$6601a8c0@Brennan> I hope to keep my POTS line as long as I can. In the city, power outages may be brief, but out where I live, along the southern side of 495, we had the power out for a week after the hurricane in '84. More recently, we've had outages of a large fraction of a day from winter weather, power company equipment failures, or the small tornado that came through my neighborhood a couple years back. Power may have been out, but the phone worked, or was back on the air much sooner than the power. And the puny batteries they're putting in some cell phones these days only last a couple days, so if the power is out and you're snowed in or something, you are out of luck. Stu From brian_vita@cssinc.com Mon Jun 16 15:10:53 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:10:53 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE8@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> References: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu><48557732.3040105@ttlc.net>, <485691B8.8080500@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE8@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <001201c8cfe4$b3196c20$e88af90a@BrianVaio> > They've gotta be kidding. This is something they have to > engineer? Purchasing small UPS's from APC or another > manufacturer, in bulk, would cost the customer next to > nothing. I don't know what the power requirements of the > fiber-to-Ethernet converter are, but a UPS would likely power > the box for enough time to outlast the typical power failure, > which isn't that long. A UPS doesn't have to be mandatory, > either, for people who have a cell phone and who therefore > won't mind losing their FiOS landline for the length of a > power failure. I disagree. Past performance shows that when there's a disaster the cell systems get overloaded quickly. Phone systems, landline and cellular, are designed so that only a percentage of the phones can be used at any given time. With landlines it seems to be a higher percentage. Further, if we're talking about a localized situation, the cell tower serving that location will be overloaded very quickly. 9/11 is a perfect, albiet extreme illustration of this. The cell network wasso overloaded that it was rendered virtually useless. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 +1-978-538-7575 +1-978-538-7550 Fax www.cssinc.com No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1504 - Release Date: 6/15/2008 5:52 PM From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Jun 16 16:07:14 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:07:14 -0500 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance Message-ID: <20080616200714.2AD2183BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> I may, if it keeps up; it happened Fri and again last night, and on Sat. night I talked to someone who said she had the same situation. It may be that Comcast might be able to give me some kind of booster to help my unit so it doesn't happen often (I have been told, elsewhere) >>I've had cable outages on rare occasions, and they haven't lasted long. If' you're having them that often, you really ought to call and report the problem. From billohno@gmail.com Mon Jun 16 19:52:52 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:52:52 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <001201c8cfe4$b3196c20$e88af90a@BrianVaio> References: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu><48557732.3040105@ttlc.net>, <485691B8.8080500@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE8@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <001201c8cfe4$b3196c20$e88af90a@BrianVaio> Message-ID: <4856FCD4.1080807@gmail.com> Brian Vita wrote: > > The cell network wasso overloaded that it was > rendered virtually useless. > > I know this is not an acceptable alternative, but when cell network gets overloaded does it still allow text messages through? I know that in Katrina the call went out pleading with people to minimize calls and go with text messaging. Also, in communities with reverse 911, is there a way to opt-in one's cell number for this purpose akin to college campus alert systems? Bill O'Neill From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jun 16 20:15:17 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:15:17 -0500 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <0K2I006CMXI0AW30@asmtp023.mac.com> References: <4fc429770806151351t644a9b09wbcb09080df16feed@mail.gmail.com> <0K2I006CMXI0AW30@asmtp023.mac.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770806161715s2dded9e1t360556f16740a7e@mail.gmail.com> I would think Verizon bean counters would care to tie up 2 techs for almost an entire day for one house. Couple of months ago when the Globe had the list of towns Verizon had applied their spokesman cited the multi-dwelling problem which is why they did not apply in Boston even though Mumbles asked them to. When Fios is installed correctly it does blow away cable. On 6/15/08, Larry Weil wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org >> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] >> On Behalf Of Kevin Vahey >> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:52 PM >> To: Roger Kirk >> Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >> Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance >> >> Friend of mine had Fios installed at his house in Woburn. He told me >> Verizon had 2 techs there for nearly 6 hours to get it working. That >> is way too labor intensive. > > Unless you are paying by the hour, why should you care? > > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > > > From john@minutemancomm.com Mon Jun 16 20:46:56 2008 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:46:56 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <485691B8.8080500@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> References: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> <48557732.3040105@ttlc.net> <485691B8.8080500@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> Message-ID: <00c601c8d013$a51c7200$6a00a8c0@johnster1> I have checked out many FiOS installations. TV is Coax from the box to Motorola set top boxes (just like Comcast .... That?s right Coax.) The internet modem is usually fed by coax as well. Though I have heard that some are Ethernet. They do have a battery back up supply on the phone line. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Tony Abruzzese Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:16 PM To: Dan Billings Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance On 6/15/08 4:31 PM, Dan Billings wrote: > Why would removing copper be a problem? > > > I recently switched back to Verizon for POTS rather than go with Comcast"s Digital VOIP service. Here is the way it was explained to me by the Verizon tech when I asked about upgrading to FIOS when it becomes available. The phone company delivers power for your phone line over the copper. In the event of a general power failure, your copper-based land line still works. Note that this is only true for handsets that are hard wired to the system... Your cordless phone base stations are still dependent on house power. FIOS based service is dependent on power from your home, instead of the phone company. In the event of a power failure, the FIOS box goes down, taking your phone down, along with internet and TV. Supposedly, Verizon is working with their vendors to engineer a battery backup system for their FIOS interface box, so that customers do not lose phone service in the event of a power failure, but they don't currently have a solution. Further, he said that the network is fiber to your house and the interface box. From there, internet and TV are delivered over twisted pair ethernet cable (CAT5, IIRC), instead of co-ax cable, so you would need a set-top box for each TV connected to FIOS for even the most basic service. -- Tony Abruzzese BUSM Dept of Biochemistry No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM From hykker@wildblue.net Mon Jun 16 21:24:19 2008 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:24:19 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806161715s2dded9e1t360556f16740a7e@mail.gmail.com > References: <4fc429770806151351t644a9b09wbcb09080df16feed@mail.gmail.com> <0K2I006CMXI0AW30@asmtp023.mac.com> <4fc429770806161715s2dded9e1t360556f16740a7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48571254.4699220a.2ac3.ffffbbf4@mx.google.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: >When Fios is installed correctly it does blow away cable. Curiously how does FOIS compare price-wise with cable? I'd heard that it was in excess of $100/mo. (though I don't know what was included in that). A little rich for my budget. Not like it'll ever make it this far in the boonies for many many years. From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jun 16 22:03:20 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:03:20 -0500 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <48571254.4699220a.2ac3.ffffbbf4@mx.google.com> References: <4fc429770806151351t644a9b09wbcb09080df16feed@mail.gmail.com> <0K2I006CMXI0AW30@asmtp023.mac.com> <4fc429770806161715s2dded9e1t360556f16740a7e@mail.gmail.com> <48571254.4699220a.2ac3.ffffbbf4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770806161903q7fbf92e5g7a1d793efc5b9762@mail.gmail.com> Pretty much a wash. Fios and Comcast Triple Play are both $100 a month. I personally don't want all my eggs in the same basket. I don't want Comcast phone service simply because cable sometimes goes out but I can never recall my New England Telephone, NYNEX, Bell Atlantic or Verizon line NOT having a dial tone no matter what. On 6/16/08, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Kevin Vahey wrote: > > >>When Fios is installed correctly it does blow away cable. > > > Curiously how does FOIS compare price-wise with cable? I'd heard > that it was in excess of $100/mo. (though I don't know what was > included in that). A little rich for my budget. Not like it'll ever > make it this far in the boonies for many many years. > > From rogerkola@aol.com Tue Jun 17 01:48:55 2008 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:48:55 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance References: <4fc429770806151351t644a9b09wbcb09080df16feed@mail.gmail.com><0K2I006CMXI0AW30@asmtp023.mac.com><4fc429770806161715s2dded9e1t360556f16740a7e@mail.gmail.com><48571254.4699220a.2ac3.ffffbbf4@mx.google.com> <4fc429770806161903q7fbf92e5g7a1d793efc5b9762@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000e01c8d03d$d5e9a220$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Kevin noted... ..."I personally don't want all my eggs in the same basket. I don't want Comcast phone service simply because cable sometimes goes out but I can never recall my New England Telephone, NYNEX, Bell Atlantic or Verizon line NOT having a dial tone no matter what"... Besides...should all fail, you can probability "step down" the 48 or so volts that the phone company is providing "free", to run a battery powered radio keeping in touch with the world while you weren't using your phone... Ah...survivalism...I should be living in Montana... Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "SteveOrdinetz" Cc: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:03 PM Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance > Pretty much a wash. Fios and Comcast Triple Play are both $100 a month. > > I personally don't want all my eggs in the same basket. I don't want > Comcast phone service simply because cable sometimes goes out but I > can never recall my New England Telephone, NYNEX, Bell Atlantic or > Verizon line NOT having a dial tone no matter what. > > On 6/16/08, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > > Kevin Vahey wrote: > > > > > >>When Fios is installed correctly it does blow away cable. > > > > > > Curiously how does FOIS compare price-wise with cable? I'd heard > > that it was in excess of $100/mo. (though I don't know what was > > included in that). A little rich for my budget. Not like it'll ever > > make it this far in the boonies for many many years. > > > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jun 17 01:31:53 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:31:53 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806161903q7fbf92e5g7a1d793efc5b9762@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770806151351t644a9b09wbcb09080df16feed@mail.gmail.com>, <48571254.4699220a.2ac3.ffffbbf4@mx.google.com>, <4fc429770806161903q7fbf92e5g7a1d793efc5b9762@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48571409.14197.89762F@joe.attorneyross.com> On 16 Jun 2008 at 21:03, Kevin Vahey wrote: > I personally don't want all my eggs in the same basket. I don't want > Comcast phone service simply because cable sometimes goes out but I > can never recall my New England Telephone, NYNEX, Bell Atlantic or > Verizon line NOT having a dial tone no matter what. Mine went down several times back in October 1995. It seemed to go down every weekend for several weeks, and then went down for an entire week, while technicians kept missing appointments or showing up early, when I wasn't home yet. Finally, after a week, a technician came on a Sunday afternoon and brought my line in on a different pair, finally solving the problem. I've also had outages of a day or so on my office phone, but not for a long time. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Jun 17 01:10:27 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:10:27 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806161903q7fbf92e5g7a1d793efc5b9762@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770806151351t644a9b09wbcb09080df16feed@mail.gmail.com> <0K2I006CMXI0AW30@asmtp023.mac.com> <4fc429770806161715s2dded9e1t360556f16740a7e@mail.gmail.com> <48571254.4699220a.2ac3.ffffbbf4@mx.google.com> <4fc429770806161903q7fbf92e5g7a1d793efc5b9762@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 9:03 PM -0500 6/16/08, Kevin Vahey wrote: > >I personally don't want all my eggs in the same basket. I don't want >Comcast phone service simply because cable sometimes goes out but I >can never recall my New England Telephone, NYNEX, Bell Atlantic or >Verizon line NOT having a dial tone no matter what. I went through a whole week of no phone service a number of years back, they finally found a cut in an underground cable. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue Jun 17 02:01:06 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:01:06 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <4856FCD4.1080807@gmail.com> References: <200806151939.m5FJdjn9009624@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu><48557732.3040105@ttlc.net>, <485691B8.8080500@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CE8@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <001201c8cfe4$b3196c20$e88af90a@BrianVaio> <4856FCD4.1080807@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000301c8d03f$89309a40$6400a8c0@BrianVaio> Some cities web sites, such as Salem where I live, have a place where you can update your data or add a cell phone for SMS messaging of a pending issue. https://portal.blackboardconnectcty.com/welcome.aspx?eiid=1207B6088C3476A069 79 Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 +1-978-538-7575 +1-978-538-7550 Fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill O'Neill [mailto:billohno@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:53 PM > To: Brian Vita > Cc: 'Sid Schweiger'; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: digital converter box -- surprising performance > > Brian Vita wrote: > > > > The cell network wasso overloaded that it was rendered virtually > > useless. > > > > > I know this is not an acceptable alternative, but when cell > network gets overloaded does it still allow text messages > through? I know that in Katrina the call went out pleading > with people to minimize calls and go with text messaging. > > Also, in communities with reverse 911, is there a way to > opt-in one's cell number for this purpose akin to college > campus alert systems? > > Bill O'Neill > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1504 - Release > Date: 6/15/2008 5:52 PM > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1504 - Release Date: 6/15/2008 5:52 PM From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Tue Jun 17 09:29:42 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:29:42 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: <000e01c8d03d$d5e9a220$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <4fc429770806151351t644a9b09wbcb09080df16feed@mail.gmail.com><0K2I006CMXI0AW30@asmtp023.mac.com><4fc429770806161715s2dded9e1t360556f16740a7e@mail.gmail.com><48571254.4699220a.2ac3.ffffbbf4@mx.google.com> <4fc429770806161903q7fbf92e5g7a1d793efc5b9762@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c8d03d$d5e9a220$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <4857BC46.3000902@ttlc.net> Roger Kolakowski wrote: > Besides...should all fail, you can probability "step down" the 48 or so > volts that the phone company is providing "free", to run a battery powered > radio keeping in touch with the world while you weren't using your phone... > Drawing current from the phone line would cause it to appear "off hook" and busy to the rest of the world. On an older system, it would tie-up one internal path. Eventually, that would lead to the very loud "woop, woop" sounder that Telco places on an off-hook line with no connection or activity. From attychase@comcast.net Tue Jun 17 12:28:14 2008 From: attychase@comcast.net (Robert S Chase) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:28:14 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance References: Message-ID: Fall River had a problem with the loop that serves me for a little over a week last winter. Turns out that the lead covered cable with the copper pairs in it developed a leak that allowed water to get in. This cable was installed in about 1932. The fix was to open up the cable where they isolated the leak to (using a process similar to the reflected impedance test used by NASA on the ECO sensors which they didn't use many months before which is probably why Hale is now a deputy associate administrator for outreach when there is no associate administrator for outreach) and blow air into the cable to dry out the paper insulation covering the pairs. What I don't understand is when they have a cable go down like that why they don't bite the bullet and start to pull fiber out to the subscribers instead of keeping the outmoded copper pairs? Bob Chase > I went through a whole week of no phone service a number of years > back, they finally found a cut in an underground cable. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Wed Jun 18 01:58:45 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:58:45 -0400 Subject: Remember Boston (AM) Radio.... Message-ID: Been coming across some articles on the web by accident. This one is a rememberance of Boston radio/personalities of the 60's & 70's....and includes an update from Joe Martelle. The greatest Boston, MA, radio personalities of the 1960s and 1970s http://www.visitingnewengland.com/top40radio-newengland.html ...if nothing else, the WRKO music survey on the page is a trip to look at. ;-) From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed Jun 18 09:24:14 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:24:14 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48590C7E.3040806@ttlc.net> Robert S Chase wrote: > What I don't understand is when they have a cable go down like that > why they don't bite the bullet and start to pull fiber out to the > subscribers instead of keeping the outmoded copper pairs? Perhaps because they will still have to provide power over copper at the subscriber's premises. Now, instead of relying on just the central office big bank o'batteries, power must be derived locally to the subscriber. Necessitating either another set of batteries or when local power dumps, the subscriber is out of luck. Many people rely on POTS for a reliable, low-tech connection between the CO and their alarm systems. From attychase@comcast.net Wed Jun 18 13:37:25 2008 From: attychase@comcast.net (Robert S Chase) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:37:25 -0400 Subject: digital converter box -- surprising performance References: Message-ID: <4023FF81136341A6B651011C7F2FF525@HomeOffice> Okay, as radio people we need to know all about telco connections since at one time before the advent of microwave links, etc, this was all we had to do remotes. I can remember having to bridge into a pay phone pair with our emergency backup pair of capacitors to send a remote when telco failed to make the central office connections on the other pair back to the studio. (They were using yellow and black pair on the pay phone to get to the central office, sent someone out and installed it at the site, then failed to make the patch at the CO on time. (shift change) Since the pair in the box I was supposed to use didn't work I had the studio call me on the pay phone and used the other pair, red and green which was sitting right there also. Think we bridged in there also so we wouldn't have the beep tone. CO wasn't too impressed with my output levels when they looked at it but as I told them "what's a guy to do when they fall down!" and they accepted the situation grudgingly. Don't remember if we got a refund on the remote charge but they didn't respond to our calls for help until the remote was nearly over. ). So back to the query, when they pull the fiber out to the subscriber loop, will they leave copper in place for all those who keep their POTS? Will it be on the existing cable pairs or will they do a conversion process at the pole or some local distribution point? I understand that copper cables have a pair for each subscriber from the central office and then they go through junction box near the subscriber where they branch off. (correct me if I am wrong) They are going to have to do a similar thing with fiber won't they or will there be a decoder at the network interface at each subscriber? Won't that have to be powered anyway? And if that is so, why not simply run a dc pair either in the fiber cable, wrapped with it, or along side it to provide the dc? Does anybody know a good URL that can explain old POTS and new fiber service (plain old vanilla as well as FIOS or other?) Bob Chase > Perhaps because they will still have to provide power over copper at the > subscriber's premises. Now, instead of relying on just the central > office big bank o'batteries, power must be derived locally to the > subscriber. Necessitating either another set of batteries or when local > power dumps, the subscriber is out of luck. Many people rely on POTS > for a reliable, low-tech connection between the CO and their alarm > systems. From kvahey@comcast.net Thu Jun 19 11:06:22 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:06:22 -0500 Subject: In Chicago True Oldies will be WLS-FM Message-ID: <4fc429770806190806o7919627dq5584fe7dd6556c64@mail.gmail.com> The Chicago Sun-Times reports this morning that WZZN 94.7 Chicago will change calls to WLS-FM on June 26th. The station is hinting that jocks heard on WLS Rewind will be returning to the air. From billohno@gmail.com Thu Jun 19 13:43:50 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:43:50 -0400 Subject: In Chicago True Oldies will be WLS-FM In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806190806o7919627dq5584fe7dd6556c64@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770806190806o7919627dq5584fe7dd6556c64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <485A9AD6.9030600@gmail.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: > The Chicago Sun-Times reports this morning that WZZN 94.7 Chicago will > change calls to WLS-FM on June 26th. > > The station is hinting that jocks heard on WLS Rewind will be > returning to the air. > > That must be a misprint. Can't be. It could actually _succeed_. I hope they stream it. Bill O'Neill From rbello@belloassoc.com Thu Jun 19 15:09:53 2008 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:09:53 -0400 Subject: In Chicago True Oldies will be WLS-FM In-Reply-To: <485A9AD6.9030600@gmail.com> References: <4fc429770806190806o7919627dq5584fe7dd6556c64@mail.gmail.com> <485A9AD6.9030600@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080619150923.0453a9f0@belloassoc.com> At 01:43 PM 6/19/2008, Bill O'Neill wrote: >Kevin Vahey wrote: >>The Chicago Sun-Times reports this morning that WZZN 94.7 Chicago will >>change calls to WLS-FM on June 26th. >> >>The station is hinting that jocks heard on WLS Rewind will be >>returning to the air. >> >> >That must be a misprint. Can't be. It could actually _succeed_. >I hope they stream it. > >Bill O'Neill They do ! http://www.trueoldies947.com/ From HeritageRadio@msn.com Sat Jun 21 01:16:09 2008 From: HeritageRadio@msn.com (thomas heathwood) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:16:09 -0400 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 12, Issue 245 References: Message-ID: Hi - I received today's Boston Radio Interest list, but my computer detected no "attachments" - ?? <> Tom Heathwood HeritageRadio@msn.com 6/20/08 ----- Original Message ----- From: boston-radio-interest-request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 12, Issue 245 Send Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list submissions to boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.BostonRadio.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-radio-interest or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org You can reach the person managing the list at boston-radio-interest-owner@lists.BostonRadio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Boston-Radio-Interest digest..." From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Jun 21 01:54:08 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:54:08 -0400 Subject: Keith Olbermann and the cable news channels. Message-ID: <3689F9C03FD9440C9E208FC6BCDB9E27@MainXPPro> I know there are some that enjoy Keith. Here is an article from The NewYorker. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/06/23/080623fa_fact_boyer With the recent recollection of Tim Russerts work....it's so obvious to see that none of these shows that claim to re-invent tv news are not even coming close. I always thought it was a fallacy to call the cable news networks "news channels". It's more like talkradio. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sun Jun 22 14:37:39 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:37:39 -0400 Subject: Make satellite radio keep competing Message-ID: <8F8736F6F70A417A9427E4919AB55745@MainXPPro> Since this is a Boston based list, I though this Globe op-ed peice written by Great Media's Peter Smith, may have gone by without notice for a lot of folks. (I read the Globe online up here and notice that I rarely go to the section with the 'opinions'...they usually make me sleepy.) Make satellite radio keep competing http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/06/18/make_satellite_radio_keep_competing?mode=PF "THE FEDERAL Communications Commission should enforce its long-standing and well-reasoned prohibition against a satellite radio monopoly that it established in 1997 when it granted the spectrum licenses to XM and Sirius. The policy underlying this prohibition - to provide an opportunity for a competitive satellite service to benefit consumers - is as valid today as it was in 1997." From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sat Jun 21 06:51:37 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:51:37 -0500 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 12, Issue 245 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8bce0fe80806210351k3499ed25m572d5874d97d3493@mail.gmail.com> And your point is? Am I missing something? On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 12:16 AM, thomas heathwood wrote: > Hi - I received today's Boston Radio Interest list, but my computer > detected no "attachments" - ?? > <> > Tom Heathwood HeritageRadio@msn.com > 6/20/08 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: boston-radio-interest-request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org boston-radio-interest-request@tsornin.BostonRadio.org> > To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org> > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00 PM > Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 12, Issue 245 > > > Send Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list submissions to > boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.BostonRadio.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-radio-interest > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org boston-radio-interest-request@lists.BostonRadio.org> > > You can reach the person managing the list at > boston-radio-interest-owner@lists.BostonRadio.org boston-radio-interest-owner@lists.BostonRadio.org> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Boston-Radio-Interest digest..." > From lglavin@mail.com Fri Jun 20 15:39:25 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:39:25 -0500 Subject: WUNR-AM 1600 Signal Strength Message-ID: <20080620193925.2657E104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Almost a year ago, I surmised that WKOX-AM 1200 had nade the switch to its authorized 50,000-watt signal because it appeared that the signal strength at my location 30 miles north of Boston had increased markedly. This turned out not to be the case... it's possible that Clear Channel began to believe that the CP to build out the new facilities in the Oak Park neighborhood of Newton, MA would never happen, and they therefore rebuilt or replaced their venerable 10 KW transmitter in Framingham. I had ignored WKOX ever since they dropped the "Boston's Progressive Talk" format, and anyway before that happened I tended to listen to WXKS-AM 1430 which was stronger. Fast forward nearly a year, and now it appears that WUNR-AM 1600's signal is WEAKER than it has been while it broadcast with 5 KW DA-1. Until Thursday, it had about the same strength as WSMN-AM 1590 im Nashua, NH...at this moment, it registers about 75% of that station's reading on my radio that displays relative signal strength. According to the FCC website's facilities page, WUNR's 5 KW two-tower signal is supposed to send 1212 mV/m at zero degrees azimuth (in my general direction) but only 949 with the 5-tower 20,000-watt signal operating. It's interesting that along a more northeasterly heading, WUNR's field intensity doesn't jump much until about 20 degrees, reaching its maximum at 80 degrees. It appears that they want to max out toward some Boston neighborhoods. Places like Revere, Chelsea and Lynn may get no increase at all...IF they are in fact running 20 KW with 5 towers. -- See Exclusive Videos: 10th Annual Young Hollywood Awards http://www.hollywoodlife.net/younghollywoodawards2008/ From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Jun 22 22:47:33 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:47:33 -0400 Subject: WKOX Signal Strength In-Reply-To: <20080620193925.2657E104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080620193925.2657E104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <18527.3781.723324.308021@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > rebuilt or replaced their venerable 10 KW transmitter in Framingham. The WKOX Framingham transmitter was replaced between June 2005 and March 2006. See the Archives for before and after photos. The new transmitter is a BE AM10A; the previous tx was a Continental. (There was a 1-kW Gates that I think was a holdover from the old 1190 operation located where the BE is now.) As of earlier today, WKOX was still operating from 100 Mt. Wayte Avenue. -GAWollman From radiotony@comcast.net Sun Jun 22 22:51:14 2008 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:51:14 -0400 Subject: WUNR-AM 1600 Signal Strength In-Reply-To: <20080620193925.2657E104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080620193925.2657E104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <003d01c8d4dc$01c60f30$05522d90$@net> This wouldn't make sense though since there are large Hispanic enclaves in Revere, Chelsea, and Lynn, which that programming appeals to. Best, Tony Schinella Politizine.com: Random musings about politics, music, the media and modern times. Since 2002. OurConcord.com: News and analysis for and about Concord, N.H. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Laurence Glavin Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 3:39 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: WUNR-AM 1600 Signal Strength It appears that they want to max out toward some Boston neighborhoods. Places like Revere, Chelsea and Lynn may get no increase at all...IF they are in fact running 20 KW with 5 towers. -- See Exclusive Videos: 10th Annual Young Hollywood Awards http://www.hollywoodlife.net/younghollywoodawards2008/ From raccoonradio@mail.com Sun Jun 22 23:06:42 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:06:42 -0500 Subject: Ch 7 showed Gary Francis (storm affected his ice cream biz) Message-ID: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> WCAP's Gary Frascarelli ("Gary Francis") has an ice cream shop in Lowell (or is it N. Chelmsford?) The storms tonight affected his business as a fallen tree branch (I believe) and a power outage (it won't be back till tomorrow night) forced Gary to give away a lot of his ice cream (some of it was salvaged). He was just seen on Ch 7. Some of us radio buffs have stopped by Gary's for a cookout in the past. From raccoonradio@mail.com Sun Jun 22 23:08:02 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:08:02 -0500 Subject: WUNR-AM 1600 Signal Strength Message-ID: <20080623030802.DF106CD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> A certain AM station licensed to Salem would like to grab that audience, complete with COL change to Nahant. Whether it happens or not remains to be seen. (WESX 1230) >>This wouldn't make sense though since there are large Hispanic enclaves in Revere, Chelsea, and Lynn, which that programming appeals to. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jun 22 23:16:44 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:16:44 -0400 Subject: WUNR-AM 1600 Signal Strength References: <20080620193925.2657E104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <7EEDD9179D19460F99751A6D17188FA9@SatU205S5044> Designing a directional array for just one station usually involves many compromises. You can't find available land where you'd like it, so you have to accept a site where you can get it; the site may not allow placement of the towers where they would be be optimum, and on, and on, and on. Now compound those problems with the having to site not one or even two stations but three at a single location and to choose tower locations within the site that work for all three. There have to be compromises left and right! Nevertheless, WUNR focuses primarily on two communities: Hispanics and Hatians. African-Americans are a third constituency. All of those groups are concentrated in Mattapan, Dorchester, and Roxbury. Sure, they are found elsewhere in Greater Boston, but you can do only so much with 20 kW on 1600, especially given the constraints of a fixed site location and property that just barely accommodates all of the towers. (The ground systems of some of the towers are truncated at the property lines.) Despite the fortune spent on the site, economics must also have figured in the design. I have to assume that WUNR refused to spend the extra money for separate day and night patterns. The station might have been able to do slightly better by day with a separate daytime pattern. Anyhow, you mentioned that the signal improvement in Lynn would be minimal. Not so! In Lynn, using WLYN as a proxy for the entire city, the new signal--if it ever makes it onto the air--with be the equivalent of more than a three-fold power increase compared with the old signal. Especially if you consider the new system's decreased antenna efficiency (the result of the shorter towers), three-fold is a significant increase and it will definitely be noticeable to listeners in City of Sin. And BTW, WUNR's peak signal, somewhere in Dorchester, will be equivalent to 100 kW into a nondirectional antenna of the same efficiency as WUNR's new 200' towers. The inverse-distance field at 1 km will be ~85% of the corresponding figure for WBZ. Nothing to sneeze at! ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 3:39 PM Subject: WUNR-AM 1600 Signal Strength Almost a year ago, I surmised that WKOX-AM 1200 had nade the switch to its authorized 50,000-watt signal because it appeared that the signal strength at my location 30 miles north of Boston had increased markedly. This turned out not to be the case... it's possible that Clear Channel began to believe that the CP to build out the new facilities in the Oak Park neighborhood of Newton, MA would never happen, and they therefore rebuilt or replaced their venerable 10 KW transmitter in Framingham. I had ignored WKOX ever since they dropped the "Boston's Progressive Talk" format, and anyway before that happened I tended to listen to WXKS-AM 1430 which was stronger. Fast forward nearly a year, and now it appears that WUNR-AM 1600's signal is WEAKER than it has been while it broadcast with 5 KW DA-1. Until Thursday, it had about the same strength as WSMN-AM 1590 im Nashua, NH...at this moment, it registers about 75% of that station's reading on my radio that displays relative signal strength. According to the FCC website's facilities page, WUNR's 5 KW two-tower signal is supposed to send 1212 mV/m at zero degrees azimuth (in my general direction) but only 949 with the 5-tower 20,000-watt signal operating. It's interesting that along a more northeasterly heading, WUNR's field intensity doesn't jump much until about 20 degrees, reaching its maximum at 80 degrees. It appears that they want to max out toward some Boston neighborhoods. Places like Revere, Chelsea and Lynn may get no increase at all...IF they are in fact running 20 KW with 5 towers. -- See Exclusive Videos: 10th Annual Young Hollywood Awards http://www.hollywoodlife.net/younghollywoodawards2008/ From billohno@gmail.com Sun Jun 22 23:18:28 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:18:28 -0400 Subject: Ch 7 showed Gary Francis (storm affected his ice cream biz) In-Reply-To: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <485F1604.7090002@gmail.com> Bob Nelson wrote: > forced Gary to give away a lot of > his ice cream (some of > it was salvaged). > > He was just seen on Ch 7. > > Some of us radio buffs have stopped by Gary's for a cookout in the past. > Now, there's advertising that money can't buy but ice cream can. Sorry I missed out! Bill O'Neill From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Mon Jun 23 04:12:08 2008 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Ch 7 showed Gary Francis (storm affected his ice cream biz) In-Reply-To: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <242656.28761.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Bob Nelson wrote: > Some of us radio buffs have stopped by Gary's for a cookout in the > past. Speaking of which ... will there ever be another one of those? I thoroughly enjoyed listening to the radio talk at Fireflys a few years back. Of course, I know such an event is not allowed without Scott and the gang . From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jun 23 02:45:50 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:45:50 -0500 Subject: RIP George Carlin Message-ID: <4fc429770806222345s2771be33wa60e25c84b8e2286@mail.gmail.com> Comedian George Carlin has died at the age of 71. He briefly was a jock at long forgotten WVDA 1260 before it became WEZE. From billohno@gmail.com Mon Jun 23 08:18:59 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:18:59 -0400 Subject: RIP George Carlin In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806222345s2771be33wa60e25c84b8e2286@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770806222345s2771be33wa60e25c84b8e2286@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <485F94B3.1040701@gmail.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: > Comedian George Carlin has died at the age of 71. > > He briefly was a jock at long forgotten WVDA 1260 before it became WEZE. > ...and it's still 67 degrees at the airport. Which is stupid 'cause I don't know anyone who lives at the airport. RIP to the Hippy Dippy Weatherman Bill O'Neill From wollman@bimajority.org Mon Jun 23 11:51:17 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:51:17 -0400 Subject: Meet-ups past and future In-Reply-To: <242656.28761.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> <242656.28761.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <18527.50805.728956.63686@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Speaking of which ... will there ever be another one of those? I > thoroughly enjoyed listening to the radio talk at Fireflys a few years > back. That was June, 2005. Scott, Mike Fitzpatrick, and I have been discussing a Maine trip in late August. If it comes together, we are planning on having an event up there. The details are all still up in the air. If you have any suggestions as to a group-friendly venue that's reasonably accessible for people coming from Boston as well as the locals, please let us know privately. We could do lunch, a cookout, or a traditional restaurant dinner, depending on what people are interested in. -GAWollman From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Mon Jun 23 12:43:12 2008 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:43:12 -0400 Subject: Make satellite radio keep competing References: <8F8736F6F70A417A9427E4919AB55745@MainXPPro> Message-ID: <001f01c8d550$3a8a47e0$7c904c0c@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Don A To: BRI Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 2:37 PM Subject: Make satellite radio keep competing > > Since this is a Boston based list, I though this Globe op-ed peice written > by Great Media's Peter Smith, may have gone by without notice for a lot of > folks. > > (I read the Globe online up here and notice that I rarely go to the section > with the 'opinions'...they usually make me sleepy.) > > Make satellite radio keep competing > http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/06/18 /make_satellite_radio_keep_competing?mode=PF > > "THE FEDERAL Communications Commission should enforce its long-standing and > well-reasoned prohibition against a satellite radio monopoly that it > established in 1997 when it granted the spectrum licenses to XM and Sirius. > The policy underlying this prohibition - to provide an opportunity for a > competitive satellite service to benefit consumers - is as valid today as it > was in 1997." > Although both companies insist that they don't need the merger to survive, their financials suggest otherwise. Both have overspent wildly on celebrity talent and sports and the subscriber numbers are nowhere near what they told investors they'd have by this point (I believe their projections were for 40 million combined by 2010, which has zero chance of happening). Should the merger be denied and one or both fold, will any of the established large-media companies (i.e. News Corp., Disney) even consider scavenging the remains and getting into satellite radio, or will the concept just die? Howard From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Jun 23 13:09:59 2008 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:09:59 -0400 Subject: Meet-ups past and future In-Reply-To: <18527.50805.728956.63686@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> <242656.28761.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <18527.50805.728956.63686@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <20080623171004.D3E4C1B4144@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> >Garrett wrote-- > >Scott, Mike Fitzpatrick, and I have been discussing a Maine trip in >late August. Well, don't invite us up to join you. According to today's Boston Globe, there is an absolute epidemic of black flies, and they are biting every human and animal they can find. Bigger infestation now than at any time in Maine's history, in fact. Have fun providing those critters with lunch, you guys!!! :-P From billohno@gmail.com Mon Jun 23 14:42:48 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:42:48 -0400 Subject: Make satellite radio keep competing In-Reply-To: <001f01c8d550$3a8a47e0$7c904c0c@oemcomputer> References: <8F8736F6F70A417A9427E4919AB55745@MainXPPro> <001f01c8d550$3a8a47e0$7c904c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <485FEEA8.7070409@gmail.com> Howard Glazer wrote: > Should the > merger be denied and one or both fold, will any of the established > large-media companies (i.e. News Corp., Disney) even consider scavenging the > remains and getting into satellite radio, or will the concept just die? What are the odds? What with the infrastructure and other capital on the books. You hit it on the head when you reference highly compensated talent like Stern as albatrosses. Not sure what the other 'names' receive, e.g., Martha "Britain or Bust" Stewart, Barbara Walters, etc. More than they bring in, for certain. I think that was a miscalculation from the get-go. They needed to sync their technologies from the start (as Uncle Charlie anticipated) and then just have at it with competition, service delivery, niche programming. They needed to be giving the units away beyond XM's sister Delco. Every car entering America should have been loaded with a receiver that could reach either network (perhaps with some firewall, etc.) It worked for Gillette and other companies to razors. Give away the handle and then charge up the blades. And continue to get better. As with razors, they will be around as long as hair continues to grow. I have to think that satellite radio will be around as long as people have ears to hear. In 20 years we may look back on the birth pangs of the industry with a chuckle. And close shave. Bill O'Neill From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Mon Jun 23 14:45:14 2008 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:45:14 -0400 Subject: Meet-ups past and future References: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com><242656.28761.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com><18527.50805.728956.63686@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20080623171004.D3E4C1B4144@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <000d01c8d561$48857930$0501a8c0@Family> Donna - the black flies are in "Maine." we here in the Portland area are in what Bob Marley calls "fancy Maine." we have running water and the most up-to-date farmer's almanac hangin' by the little holey-thing they put in those critters for just such a reason, ayuh. suck it up, Auntie Donna. it's an hour-forty minutes in a straight line up 95 from Boston to Portland. i know as i've making that trip for 30 years now. ;-) and i've suggested a couple of really nice, black-fly free spots to Garrett... Chuck Igo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Garrett Wollman" Cc: Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:09 PM Subject: Re: Meet-ups past and future > >>Garrett wrote-- >> >>Scott, Mike Fitzpatrick, and I have been discussing a Maine trip in >>late August. > > Well, don't invite us up to join you. According to today's Boston Globe, > there is an absolute epidemic of black flies, and they are biting every > human and animal they can find. Bigger infestation now than at any time > in Maine's history, in fact. Have fun providing those critters with > lunch, you guys!!! :-P From scott@fybush.com Mon Jun 23 14:49:43 2008 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:49:43 -0400 Subject: Meet-ups past and future In-Reply-To: <000d01c8d561$48857930$0501a8c0@Family> References: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com><242656.28761.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com><18527.50805.728956.63686@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20080623171004.D3E4C1B4144@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <000d01c8d561$48857930$0501a8c0@Family> Message-ID: <485FF047.7060800@fybush.com> Chuck Igo wrote: > Donna - > > the black flies are in "Maine." we here in the Portland area are in > what Bob Marley calls "fancy Maine." we have running water and the most > up-to-date farmer's almanac hangin' by the little holey-thing they put > in those critters for just such a reason, ayuh. > > suck it up, Auntie Donna. it's an hour-forty minutes in a straight line > up 95 from Boston to Portland. i know as i've making that trip for 30 > years now. ;-) > > and i've suggested a couple of really nice, black-fly free spots to > Garrett... I'm thinking we drape a whole bunch of mosquito netting from Bob's WJTO tower and fire up the grill out there in West Bath... :-) s From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Jun 23 15:01:52 2008 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:01:52 -0400 Subject: Meet-ups past and future In-Reply-To: <000d01c8d561$48857930$0501a8c0@Family> References: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> <242656.28761.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <18527.50805.728956.63686@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20080623171004.D3E4C1B4144@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <000d01c8d561$48857930$0501a8c0@Family> Message-ID: <20080623190158.8128A775515@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 02:45 PM 6/23/2008, Chuck Igo wrote: >Donna - > > the black flies are in "Maine." we here in the Portland area are > in what Bob Marley calls "fancy Maine." we have running water and > the most up-to-date farmer's almanac hangin' by the little > holey-thing they put in those critters for just such a reason, ayuh. Wow, really? Electricity has come to Portland? You mean there's radio stations there too????? :-P Seriously, I adore Portland and go there often. That's why the Boston Globe story was so amusing to me. Black flies surge in Maine's clean rivers Citing environment's gain, state declines to curb the biting bugs By Beth Daley, Boston Globe Staff | June 23, 2008 MILLINOCKET, Maine - Mainers call the black fly the state bird. Residents and tourists have long steeled themselves against the flies' annual warm-weather onslaught, sometimes duct-taping pant legs and wearing screened hoods to keep the deceptively small bugs from delivering bloody bites or crawling into seemingly every body crevice. But there are now more black flies in more places in Maine, and the reason may be surprising: It's the success of the environmental movement. Many species of the gnat-sized insects are sticklers for cleanliness. When Maine's rivers were filled with contaminants from paper mills and other industries, only the hardiest black flies laid eggs in them. Now, rivers and streams are progressively cleaner, providing ideal breeding grounds for the annoying pests. It's an unintended barometer of good ecological health, but Maine officials are adamant they will not mess with nature in any way to provide relief. "They can be so thick you breathe them in and they get stuck in your throat. They even get under your eyelids," said Julia Brilliott, an Eastport resident who showed off four lumpy red welts on the back of her neck after climbing Mount Katahdin in Baxter State Park last week. [snip] rest of article here: http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2008/06/23/black_flies_surge_in_maines_clean_rivers?mode=PF From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Mon Jun 23 15:12:39 2008 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:12:39 -0400 Subject: Meet-ups past and future References: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com><242656.28761.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com><18527.50805.728956.63686@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20080623171004.D3E4C1B4144@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <000d01c8d561$48857930$0501a8c0@Family> <485FF047.7060800@fybush.com> Message-ID: <000e01c8d565$1c542970$0501a8c0@Family> Scott - that little building down off Berry's Mill Road WOULD have its fair share of winged pests. unless Bob's got the place neatly mowed and sprayed. mosquito netting in Maine - comperable to traffic control in Boston. works really really good. honest. (sarcasm mode off) ps: how's that youngun' o' y'orn ? Chuck Igo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Chuck Igo" Cc: "Garrett Wollman" ; "Donna Halper" ; Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Meet-ups past and future > Chuck Igo wrote: >> Donna - >> >> the black flies are in "Maine." we here in the Portland area are in >> what Bob Marley calls "fancy Maine." we have running water and the most >> up-to-date farmer's almanac hangin' by the little holey-thing they put in >> those critters for just such a reason, ayuh. >> >> suck it up, Auntie Donna. it's an hour-forty minutes in a straight line >> up 95 from Boston to Portland. i know as i've making that trip for 30 >> years now. ;-) >> >> and i've suggested a couple of really nice, black-fly free spots to >> Garrett... > > I'm thinking we drape a whole bunch of mosquito netting from Bob's WJTO > tower and fire up the grill out there in West Bath... :-) > > s From gary@garysicecream.com Mon Jun 23 15:20:31 2008 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:20:31 -0400 Subject: Get together this summer Message-ID: <197d01c8d566$34950120$0200a8c0@Office> Actually----I was thinking of a get-together myself this year. I work most Saturday nights all summer at Salisbury Beach doing "The Saturday Night Sock Hop" now in its 19th season. BUT, I do have July 19th off - a Saturday night or we could do something on a Sunday afternoon. Gary's Ice Cream in Lowell is on the banks of the Merrimack River with a park and benches and tables and stuff - a great place for a cookout. I'd be glad to provide the parking and the cooking facilities - outdoor grill - there is a Hess station a half block away with restrooms - and I may even be able to talk Clark and Sam, the new owners of WCAP into making a "cameo" appearance. So that?s just another option if you want to have something closer to home - gas prices are a killer.............. Gary Francis WCAP Traffic on the Eights And Gary's Ice Cream, Lowell and Chelmsford -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/696 - Release Date: 6/19/2008 12:00 AM From billohno@gmail.com Mon Jun 23 15:26:07 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:26:07 -0400 Subject: Meet-ups past and future In-Reply-To: <485FF047.7060800@fybush.com> References: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com><242656.28761.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com><18527.50805.728956.63686@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20080623171004.D3E4C1B4144@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <000d01c8d561$48857930$0501a8c0@Family> <485FF047.7060800@fybush.com> Message-ID: <485FF8CF.4060406@gmail.com> Scott Fybush wrote: > Chuck Igo wrote: >> Donna - >> >> the black flies are in "Maine." we here in the Portland area are >> in what Bob Marley calls "fancy Maine." we have running water and >> the most up-to-date farmer's almanac hangin' by the little >> holey-thing they put in those critters for just such a reason, ayuh. >> >> suck it up, Auntie Donna. it's an hour-forty minutes in a straight >> line up 95 from Boston to Portland. i know as i've making that trip >> for 30 years now. ;-) >> >> and i've suggested a couple of really nice, black-fly free spots to >> Garrett... > > I'm thinking we drape a whole bunch of mosquito netting from Bob's > WJTO tower and fire up the grill out there in West Bath... :-) > > s > I would cancel any Vermont trips in winter too, Donna. (Couldn't resist the piling-on ;-) Hey, I'll keep my nose to the ticker to see when that shindig is getting underway. It sure was swell breaking bread with 'ole pal Scott Fybush, Garrett Wollman and Mike Fitzpatrick on Friday over there in the "fancy Vermont" town of Stowe. In the "upper village" no less. Over ten years on this list and I'd not met our moderator yet. It was way overdue and great to just sit there and talk about radio. And radio. And radio. We Vermont residents only get to eat that well when friends make the trek. Then, you get to just sit there in drink in all of the stories about running water, electric light, and outhouses in houses and such. Bill O'Neill -- I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio. /Rodney Dangerfield/ From billohno@gmail.com Mon Jun 23 15:35:44 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:35:44 -0400 Subject: Meet-ups past and future In-Reply-To: <000e01c8d565$1c542970$0501a8c0@Family> References: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com><242656.28761.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com><18527.50805.728956.63686@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20080623171004.D3E4C1B4144@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <000d01c8d561$48857930$0501a8c0@Family> <485FF047.7060800@fybush.com> <000e01c8d565$1c542970$0501a8c0@Family> Message-ID: <485FFB10.2010609@gmail.com> Chuck Igo wrote: > Scott - > > that little building down off Berry's Mill Road WOULD have its fair > share of winged pests. unless Bob's got the place neatly mowed and > sprayed. mosquito netting in Maine - comperable to traffic control in > Boston. works really really good. honest. (sarcasm mode off) > > ps: how's that youngun' o' y'orn ? > Obviously, Scott will answer that question about the new edition to the Fybush family, but without hesitation I share with you that the true highlight of the visit was when Scott handed me his cell phone and I got to talk with his little girl, Ari. What a blessing. There's zero doubt that Scott's eldest shall be able take the radio industry (or any industry for that matter) by storm if she so desires. (One can never brag enough about wee tots.) Bill O'Neill From gary@garysicecream.com Mon Jun 23 15:48:15 2008 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:48:15 -0400 Subject: FW: A little trouble in Lowell today - Message-ID: <198e01c8d56a$148d66c0$0200a8c0@Office> -----Original Message----- From: Gary's Ice Cream [mailto:gary@garysicecream.com] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:21 PM To: 'gary@garysicecream.com' Subject: A little trouble in Lowell today - What started out to be a nice summer Sunday at Gary's Ice Cream in Lowell turned into a catastrophe shortly after 1pm when I got a call in my Chelmsford office that a tree had crashed down on top of our Lowell store knocking out the power and starting a small electrical fire on the back of the building. I made the trip there in less than 7 minutes to find our electrical service, meter socket, etc had been sheared from the building by the force of the tree which was laying 30 feet across our roof. We had stocked the huge walk-in freezer at that store over the past week with about 300 3-gal tubs of ice cream getting ready for the 4th of July weekend (a very busy one at that riverside location due to the 4th of July fireworks). We moved as much to our Chelmsford store as we could fit (Chelmsfords walk-in is much smaller) but had to say goodbye to all the 64 tubs that were in the dipping cabinets (and many full tubs from the walk-in). One of the Boston TV stations came out (they were there before I got there) and then they sent out a satellite truck to do a "Live Shot" as the top story on the 6 o'clock news..... I hated to throw away all 64 tubs (about $5,000 at retail) so......I gulped back and had one of the staff stand out front on the busy street with a sign that was hastily lettered on a cardboard box that said "FREE ICE CREAM". Between 2 and 6:30 we gave away all 200 gallons or so as it got softer and softer until it was "ice cream soup".....cups only thank you... All in all between...payroll.....paper and spoons and the ice cream....a loss of well over $8,000.......... As I write this the tree people are working to cut the tree down and get it off the roof - so the electricians can come in tomorrow and rebuild the service entrance to the building.........they say the power should be back late tomorrow night or sometime on Tuesday - then 24 hours or so for the freezers to all stabilize to temperature......then restock the whole store with ice cream and dairy.....and a complete tear-down and cleaning of the soft serve machine (can't do that til the power is back).... And how was your Sunday? By the way, to those that say "Why don't you have a generator?" We looked into that many times - but with 400amp - 3 phase service......you're looking at at $40,000 investment. Gary www.garysicecream.com Gary's Ice Cream Lowell and Chelmsford, Mass. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/696 - Release Date: 6/19/2008 12:00 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/696 - Release Date: 6/19/2008 12:00 AM From gary@garysicecream.com Mon Jun 23 15:48:59 2008 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:48:59 -0400 Subject: Opps......meant to forward this message instead...sorry Message-ID: <198f01c8d56a$2e7183a0$0200a8c0@Office> -----Original Message----- From: Gary's Ice Cream [mailto:gary@garysicecream.com] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:48 PM To: 'Larry Weil' Subject: RE: Get together this summer If it is a Sunday...it could be July or August or even Sept. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Larry Weil [mailto:kc1ih@mac.com] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:46 PM To: 'Gary's Ice Cream'; boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: RE: Get together this summer > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Gary's Ice Cream > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:21 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: Get together this summer > > Actually----I was thinking of a get-together myself this year. I work > most Saturday nights all summer at Salisbury Beach doing "The Saturday > Night Sock Hop" now in its 19th season. > > BUT, I do have July 19th off - a Saturday night or we could do > something on a Sunday afternoon. S--t, I'm away on vacation that (and the next) weekend! -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/696 - Release Date: 6/19/2008 12:00 AM From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Jun 23 16:42:36 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:42:36 -0400 Subject: Meet-ups past and future References: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com><242656.28761.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com><18527.50805.728956.63686@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20080623171004.D3E4C1B4144@relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> <000d01c8d561$48857930$0501a8c0@Family> <485FF047.7060800@fybush.com><000e01c8d565$1c542970$0501a8c0@Family> <485FFB10.2010609@gmail.com> Message-ID: If Ari remains as cute as she was when I last saw her a couple of years ago, there is no question that she will have a career in TV! ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Chuck Igo" Cc: Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: Re: Meet-ups past and future > Chuck Igo wrote: >> Scott - >> >> that little building down off Berry's Mill Road WOULD have its >> fair share of winged pests. unless Bob's got the place neatly >> mowed and sprayed. mosquito netting in Maine - comperable to >> traffic control in Boston. works really really good. honest. >> (sarcasm mode off) >> >> ps: how's that youngun' o' y'orn ? >> > Obviously, Scott will answer that question about the new edition to > the Fybush family, but without hesitation I share with you that the > true highlight of the visit was when Scott handed me his cell phone > and I got to talk with his little girl, Ari. What a blessing. > There's zero doubt that Scott's eldest shall be able take the radio > industry (or any industry for that matter) by storm if she so > desires. (One can never brag enough about wee tots.) > > Bill O'Neill From lglavin@mail.com Mon Jun 23 14:31:08 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:31:08 -0500 Subject: RIP George Carlin Message-ID: <20080623183108.7518D16429D@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bill O'Neill" >To: "Kevin Vahey" >Subject: Re: RIP George Carlin >Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:18:59 -0400 >Kevin Vahey wrote: > Comedian George Carlin has died at the age of 71. > > He briefly was a jock at long forgotten WVDA 1260 before it became WEZE. > >...and it's still 67 degrees at the airport. Which is stupid >'cause I don't know anyone who lives at the airport. >RIP to the Hippy Dippy Weatherman >Bill O'Neill Because George lived a LONGER life than his lifestyle would predict, I didn't have the same sense of loss as when I learned about Tim Russert's passing. There have been several occasions when his name appeared on the roster of celebrities on the Massachusetts North Shore and New Hampshire (often the Casino in Hampton, NH) and I never went, possibly putting it off to a later date. Now I regret that. There may be archival footage of his not-so-routine routines on TV today, but probably NOT the ones on which his reputation was based. (In the days when he wore sa business suit and did the "wonderful WINO" routine, I often thought that the thing itself: radio in the 50's and 60's, was impervious to lampooning.) -- See Exclusive Videos: 10th Annual Young Hollywood Awards http://www.hollywoodlife.net/younghollywoodawards2008/ From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Jun 23 18:56:31 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:56:31 -0400 Subject: RIP George Carlin In-Reply-To: <20080623183108.7518D16429D@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080623183108.7518D16429D@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <3CB7F38E0041421786C5A9A6BBE3F90E@DanBillingsPC> The AP Obit said he worked at WEVE. From brian_vita@cssinc.com Mon Jun 23 19:16:36 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:16:36 -0400 Subject: Get together this summer In-Reply-To: <197d01c8d566$34950120$0200a8c0@Office> Message-ID: <000001c8d587$2ef50550$6400a8c0@lysthia> > I'd be glad to provide the parking and the cooking facilities > - outdoor grill - there is a Hess station a half block away > with restrooms - and I may even be able to talk Clark and > Sam, the new owners of WCAP into making a "cameo" appearance. > > So that?s just another option if you want to have something > closer to home - gas prices are a killer.............. > > Gary Francis > WCAP Traffic on the Eights > And > Gary's Ice Cream, Lowell and Chelmsford Works for me - Brian No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1514 - Release Date: 6/23/2008 7:17 AM From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Jun 23 19:46:27 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:46:27 -0400 Subject: Meet-ups past and future In-Reply-To: <18527.50805.728956.63686@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com><242656.28761.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <18527.50805.728956.63686@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <64BEF35AB9514B23876A46C1B81FD96A@DanBillingsPC> If you are coming to Maine, let me know. I met Scott and Garrett at WJTO during a visit. That must have been 9 or 10 years ago. From markwats@comcast.net Mon Jun 23 20:35:38 2008 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:35:38 -0400 Subject: Don Imus Once Again Injected Race Into His Radio Show Message-ID: <01a301c8d592$39935ec0$0202a8c0@Mark> Don Imus and his sports reporter Warner Wolf were discussing the legal troubles of NFL player Adam "Pacman" Jones during today's show. Imus made a comment about Mr. Jones' race. The Rev. Al Sharpton is none too pleased with what Imus said today. A little more in this AP article I found on Yahoo news: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080623/ap_en_ce/imus_race_comment;_ylt=AlyMYVVjgunId2DG6mjleqdxFb8C Mark Watson From brian_vita@cssinc.com Mon Jun 23 20:47:59 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:47:59 -0400 Subject: Don Imus Once Again Injected Race Into His Radio Show In-Reply-To: <01a301c8d592$39935ec0$0202a8c0@Mark> Message-ID: <001101c8d593$f36265c0$6400a8c0@lysthia> Is the Reverend looking for help paying off his debt to the IRS? Why does anyone have any respect for this clown? He's been caught with his hands in the cookie jar far too many times. This has far more crap on it that Tawana Brawley ever had on her. > Don Imus and his sports reporter Warner Wolf were > discussing the legal > troubles of NFL player Adam "Pacman" Jones during today's > show. Imus made a > comment about Mr. Jones' race. The Rev. Al Sharpton is none > too pleased with > what Imus said today. > > A little more in this AP article I found on Yahoo news: > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080623/ap_en_ce/imus_race_comment > ;_ylt=AlyMYVVjgunId2DG6mjleqdxFb8C > > Mark Watson > Brian No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1514 - Release Date: 6/23/2008 7:17 AM From kvahey@comcast.net Mon Jun 23 19:09:08 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:09:08 -0500 Subject: RIP George Carlin In-Reply-To: <3CB7F38E0041421786C5A9A6BBE3F90E@DanBillingsPC> References: <20080623183108.7518D16429D@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> <3CB7F38E0041421786C5A9A6BBE3F90E@DanBillingsPC> Message-ID: <4fc429770806231609k546e2053k89721262da6e1919@mail.gmail.com> It was WVDA 1260 when he was there briefly. Someone said he lasted all of 3 weeks. Ken Mayer actually had a clip of him on WVDA that he played every now and then. On 6/23/08, Dan Billings wrote: > The AP Obit said he worked at WEVE. > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Jun 24 01:09:02 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:09:02 -0400 Subject: Meet-ups past and future In-Reply-To: <000d01c8d561$48857930$0501a8c0@Family> References: <20080623030642.8013BCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com>, <000d01c8d561$48857930$0501a8c0@Family> Message-ID: <4860492E.29763.5EB230@joe.attorneyross.com> On 23 Jun 2008 at 14:45, Chuck Igo wrote: > the black flies are in "Maine." we here in the Portland area > are in what Bob Marley calls "fancy Maine." we have running water > and the most up-to-date farmer's almanac hangin' by the little > holey-thing they put in those critters for just such a reason, > ayuh. Bob Marley? Is he any relation to Jacob Marley, late partner to Ebeneezer Scrooge? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From rickkelly@gmail.com Mon Jun 23 11:58:37 2008 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:58:37 -0400 Subject: RIP George Carlin In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806222345s2771be33wa60e25c84b8e2286@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770806222345s2771be33wa60e25c84b8e2286@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd10806230858k3df5adb1m271bdb9e73cded21@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:45 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Comedian George Carlin has died at the age of 71. > > He briefly was a jock at long forgotten WVDA 1260 before it became WEZE. The story goes that he was fired due to driving the News Mobile Unit to New York for the purpose of buying pot. RIP Mr. Hippy-Dippy Weatherman (with your hippy-dippy weather, man!) -- Rick Kelly northeastairchecks.com From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue Jun 24 05:02:22 2008 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 5:02:22 -0400 Subject: Meet-ups past and future Message-ID: <5553086.294181214298142371.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web16-z02> ---- "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: > Bob Marley? Is he any relation to Jacob Marley, late partner to > Ebeneezer Scrooge? > nope. and no relation to the reggae singer of the same name... Maine's Bob Marley is a very funny comic, a regular on the Boston & Maine comedy scene, as well as appearances on The Tonight Show, Comedy Central, movies and more. nice guy, actually. www.bmarley.com --Chuck Igo From radiotest@cox.net Tue Jun 24 06:45:51 2008 From: radiotest@cox.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:45:51 -0400 Subject: Meet-ups past and future In-Reply-To: <5553086.294181214298142371.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web16-z02> References: <5553086.294181214298142371.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web16-z02> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080624064409.038d15a0@cox.net> At 05:02 AM 6/24/2008, Chuck Igo wrote: >a regular on the Boston & Maine comedy scene I've heard of dining cars, but never a comedy club car on a train. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html ____________________________________________________________ Beauty Product Reviews Read Unbiased Beauty Product Reviews and Join Our Product Review Team! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7Uvs0SQUX4lTBXueE9oLVfNTS0gJOMh5pqWHomhU643DJHI/ From billohno@gmail.com Tue Jun 24 12:57:15 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:57:15 -0400 Subject: Meet-ups past and future In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080624064409.038d15a0@cox.net> References: <5553086.294181214298142371.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web16-z02> <7.0.1.0.2.20080624064409.038d15a0@cox.net> Message-ID: <4861276B.5080406@gmail.com> Dale H. Cook wrote: > I've heard of dining cars, but never a comedy club car on a train. > When it comes to comedy on trains there's no doubt about where the joke is going. Predictable humor. Ducking under desk, Bill O'Neill From lglavin@mail.com Tue Jun 24 14:10:32 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:10:32 -0500 Subject: RIP George Carlin Message-ID: <20080624181032.D617811581F@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rick Kelly" >To: "Kevin Vahey" >Subject: Re: RIP George Carlin >Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:58:37 -0400 >On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:45 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Comedian George Carlin has died at the age of 71. > > He briefly was a jock at long forgotten WVDA 1260 before it became WEZE. >The story goes that he was fired due to driving the News Mobile Unit >to New York for the purpose of buying pot. >RIP Mr. Hippy-Dippy Weatherman (with your hippy-dippy weather, man!) >-- >Rick Kelly >northeastairchecks.com I'm reminded of another great comedian noted for his irreverence: Henry Morgan. He too made fun of the presentation of the weather in media with this line: "Today MUGGY, followed bt TUEGGY, WEGGY and THURGY". I still get laughs when I use this line (without attribution) -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Wed Jun 25 02:09:41 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:09:41 -0400 Subject: Dorchester radio station has its own Anonymous... Message-ID: <27D8E23D53EF44D1AE9318A09242DC58@MainXPPro> ...Just like the Scientologists! This is from Universal Hub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcWI3_OPoU8 From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Jun 23 15:21:06 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:21:06 -0400 Subject: Make satellite radio keep competing In-Reply-To: <485FEEA8.7070409@gmail.com> References: <8F8736F6F70A417A9427E4919AB55745@MainXPPro> <001f01c8d550$3a8a47e0$7c904c0c@oemcomputer> <485FEEA8.7070409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001b01c8d566$51930830$c7151bac@MasterExtra> Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Bill O'Neill > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:43 PM > To: Howard Glazer > Cc: BRI; Don A > Subject: Re: Make satellite radio keep competing > > Howard Glazer wrote: > > Should the > > merger be denied and one or both fold, will any of the established > > large-media companies (i.e. News Corp., Disney) even consider > > scavenging the remains and getting into satellite radio, or > will the concept just die? > What are the odds? What with the infrastructure and other > capital on the books. > > You hit it on the head when you reference highly compensated > talent like Stern as albatrosses. Not sure what the other > 'names' receive, e.g., Martha "Britain or Bust" Stewart, > Barbara Walters, etc. More than they bring in, for certain. Actually, the subscriptions for Sirius doubled when Stern was signed. > > Every car entering America should have been loaded with a > receiver that could reach either network (perhaps with some > firewall, etc.) The factory radio in the 2008 Subaru has a connector on the back that can connect to either a Sirius or an XM module, which each sell for $400 plus installation. It's a propriatory connector that cannot be used for anything else other than what Suubaru sells. Of course you could use an add-on with an RF connection, or replace the radio with an aftermarket radio with an XM or Sirius module added, either of which would be cheaper alternatives that the module sold by Sirius. > It worked for Gillette and other companies > to razors. Give away the handle and then charge up the > blades. And continue to get better. As with razors, they > will be around as long as hair continues to grow. I have to > think that satellite radio will be around as long as people > have ears to hear. In 20 years we may look back on the birth > pangs of the industry with a chuckle. And close shave. If you look at the cost of the adapters and modules being sold by Best Buy and Circuit City, it shold be obvious that the cost is being subsidized by the satellite companies. From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Jun 25 09:13:37 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:13:37 -0400 Subject: RIP George Carlin References: <20080624181032.D617811581F@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <63463348F6E14E5DB0DC922B54EF8064@SatU205S5044> I believe it was also Henry Morgan who did the famous forecast, "High winds, followed by high skirts, follwed by me." This was in the days of the much more famous Marilyn Monroe photo. Today, Morgan's quip would probably be decried as sexist and certainly politically incorrect. In the '50s, when he said it, I think it was just considered droll. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Rick Kelly" ; "Kevin Vahey" Cc: "\\(newsgroup\\) Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: Re: RIP George Carlin >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rick Kelly" >To: "Kevin Vahey" >Subject: Re: RIP George Carlin >Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:58:37 -0400 >On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:45 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Comedian George Carlin has died at the age of 71. > > He briefly was a jock at long forgotten WVDA 1260 before it became > WEZE. >The story goes that he was fired due to driving the News Mobile Unit >to New York for the purpose of buying pot. >RIP Mr. Hippy-Dippy Weatherman (with your hippy-dippy weather, man!) >-- >Rick Kelly >northeastairchecks.com I'm reminded of another great comedian noted for his irreverence: Henry Morgan. He too made fun of the presentation of the weather in media with this line: "Today MUGGY, followed bt TUEGGY, WEGGY and THURGY". I still get laughs when I use this line (without attribution) -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From lglavin@mail.com Wed Jun 25 14:08:08 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:08:08 -0500 Subject: RIP George Carlin Message-ID: <20080625180808.82D85478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan.Strassberg" >To: "Laurence Glavin" , "Rick Kelly" , "Kevin Vahey" >Subject: Re: RIP George Carlin >Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:13:37 -0400 >I believe it was also Henry Morgan who did the famous forecast, "High >winds, followed by high skirts, follwed by me." This was in the days >of the much more famous Marilyn Monroe photo. Today, Morgan's quip >would probably be decried as sexist and certainly politically >incorrect. In the '50s, when he said it, I think it was just >considered droll. >----- >Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) Today (06/25...6 shopping months till Xmas!), Willie Geist played a tape of the wind blowing the skirt of some female tennis player up above her thighs on MSNBC's "Morning Joe". Neka Brzkzqzkvzkqvzski pretended or really was upset about this and insisted it was time to get back to the news. Speaking of MSNBC, it was announced a few days ago that that channel was being deleted from standard cable and moved to a digital tier, for which a cable box would be required. Today, I received a coupon in the mail good for one free year of Digital Starter. I'll probably pick it up on Glenn Street in a less-dangerous section of Lawrence just before MSNBC is set to disappear. Thus I'll also get C-Span 2 again. -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Wed Jun 25 15:32:14 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:32:14 -0400 Subject: Fw: Dorchester radio station has its own Anonymous... Message-ID: <47AE89310C1C4A0989A2B18CD5A65818@MainXPPro> ...Just like the Scientologists! More news in the life of a pirate... This is from Universal Hub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcWI3_OPoU8 From Joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 25 18:40:20 2008 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:40:20 -0500 Subject: Fw: Dorchester radio station has its own Anonymous... In-Reply-To: <47AE89310C1C4A0989A2B18CD5A65818@MainXPPro> References: <47AE89310C1C4A0989A2B18CD5A65818@MainXPPro> Message-ID: <48628304.7910.BD06CE@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 25 Jun 2008 Don A wrote: > ...Just like the Scientologists! > > More news in the life of a pirate... > > This is from Universal Hub: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcWI3_OPoU8 This link goes to a page that has lots of videos on it, none of which seem relevant to this topic. Which video were you referring to? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed Jun 25 18:05:22 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:05:22 -0400 Subject: Fw: Dorchester radio station has its own Anonymous... In-Reply-To: <48628304.7910.BD06CE@Joe.attorneyross.com> References: <47AE89310C1C4A0989A2B18CD5A65818@MainXPPro> <48628304.7910.BD06CE@Joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <4862C122.4070502@ttlc.net> There's a little salmon pink banner at the top that says 'This video has been removed by the user." A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 25 Jun 2008 Don A wrote: > > >> ...Just like the Scientologists! >> >> More news in the life of a pirate... >> >> This is from Universal Hub: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcWI3_OPoU8 >> > > This link goes to a page that has lots of videos on it, none of which > seem relevant to this topic. Which video were you referring to? > > From sid@wrko.com Wed Jun 25 19:17:42 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:17:42 -0400 Subject: Fw: Dorchester radio station has its own Anonymous... In-Reply-To: <4862C122.4070502@ttlc.net> References: <47AE89310C1C4A0989A2B18CD5A65818@MainXPPro> <48628304.7910.BD06CE@Joe.attorneyross.com>, <4862C122.4070502@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987447CFD@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>There's a little salmon pink banner at the top that says 'This video has been removed by the user."<< I saw it before it was pulled. Maybe it finally dawned on someone that deliberately thumbing your nose at the FCC, and doing it in public, is not the smartest idea in the world. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF/WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From tim_ripley@yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 07:50:10 2008 From: tim_ripley@yahoo.com (Tim Ripley) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RIP George Carlin Message-ID: <404289.8481.qm@web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Here's a cartoon on Carlin's passing from north of the border...this comes from?yesterday's Halifax Chronicle Herald: http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/toon.php From madprof@ix.netcom.com Wed Jun 25 17:06:28 2008 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:06:28 -0400 Subject: Fw: Dorchester radio station has its own Anonymous... Message-ID: <380-22008632521628312@ix.netcom.com> YouTube reports "has been removed by user" why? > [Original Message] > From: Don A > To: BRI > Date: 6/25/2008 3:34:24 PM > Subject: Fw: Dorchester radio station has its own Anonymous... > > ...Just like the Scientologists! > > More news in the life of a pirate... > > This is from Universal Hub: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcWI3_OPoU8 > > > > > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 14:07:37 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:07:37 -0400 Subject: Fw: Dorchester radio station has its own Anonymous... References: <380-22008632521628312@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <9E85CC61A4FF43DF8016EFC78254A2D4@MainXPPro> > YouTube reports "has been removed by user" > why? It appears by the time I posted it, the video was removed, I'm not sure why. From Cdsull502@aol.com Thu Jun 26 21:47:35 2008 From: Cdsull502@aol.com (Cdsull502@aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:47:35 EDT Subject: Jefferson Kay Audition Tape and Promotional Flyer Message-ID: While surfing the net, I found this rather remarkable link on the excellent WKBW tribute web site. It appears to be an audition tape prepared by Jeff Kaye when he was at WBZ. Also included is a brochure detailing his background and broadcasting experience prior to his coming to WBZ. He made an amazing jump from two small RI radio stations to the big time in Boston. Interesting Stuff! _Click here: Jefferson Kaye_ (http://wkbwradio.com/kaye.htm) Chris Sullivan CdSull502@aol.com **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From kvahey@comcast.net Fri Jun 27 01:33:25 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:33:25 -0500 Subject: Good Bye Hazel Mae Message-ID: <4fc429770806262233t6ea53163v1cc9a04f5b5a283f@mail.gmail.com> Tonight (Friday) will end the 4 year run of Hazel Mae on NESN While she is under contract until July 31st she will vanish as of tonight. However there are strong rumors that WBZ-TV has chosen her to replace Bob Lobel. It does appear she is staying local. From kvahey@comcast.net Fri Jun 27 01:03:06 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:03:06 -0500 Subject: In Chicago True Oldies will be WLS-FM In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080619150923.0453a9f0@belloassoc.com> References: <4fc429770806190806o7919627dq5584fe7dd6556c64@mail.gmail.com> <485A9AD6.9030600@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080619150923.0453a9f0@belloassoc.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770806262203v640a9138o7b06afc0f69be228@mail.gmail.com> and as of 1AM Eastern the station official ID was WLS-FM Can WPLJ be far behind becoming WABC-FM? On 6/19/08, Ron Bello wrote: > At 01:43 PM 6/19/2008, Bill O'Neill wrote: >>Kevin Vahey wrote: >>>The Chicago Sun-Times reports this morning that WZZN 94.7 Chicago will >>>change calls to WLS-FM on June 26th. >>> >>>The station is hinting that jocks heard on WLS Rewind will be >>>returning to the air. >>> >>> >>That must be a misprint. Can't be. It could actually _succeed_. >>I hope they stream it. >> >>Bill O'Neill > > > They do ! > http://www.trueoldies947.com/ From kvahey@comcast.net Fri Jun 27 03:06:11 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:06:11 -0500 Subject: Jefferson Kay Audition Tape and Promotional Flyer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4fc429770806270006h6e9f965dsd67226c6657c83d8@mail.gmail.com> Wow talk about a trip back in time. Jeff was my favorite DJ at BZ which was my station of choice when I was at prep school in Woonsocket. The only other option there was WPRO as neither WICE or WMEX could not be heard. I visited Jeff at KB that summer and he told me he was basically fired as he wanted a raise. I do know the same fate happened 2 years later to Bob Kennedy. His widow told me Westinghouse was outraged that he had an agent. The agent figured Kennedy was billing close to 750K yet he was only being paid 28K for doing both TV and radio. They let Bob walk and that opened the door for Jerry Williams to come back to Boston. Williams bombed on TV and BZ wanted Kennedy back but he told them to stick it. On 6/26/08, Cdsull502@aol.com wrote: > While surfing the net, I found this rather remarkable link on the excellent > WKBW tribute web site. It appears to be an audition tape prepared by Jeff > Kaye when he was at WBZ. Also included is a brochure detailing his > background > and broadcasting experience prior to his coming to WBZ. He made an > amazing > jump from two small RI radio stations to the big time in Boston. > Interesting > Stuff! _Click here: Jefferson Kaye_ (http://wkbwradio.com/kaye.htm) > > Chris Sullivan > CdSull502@aol.com > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > From sid@wrko.com Fri Jun 27 07:30:52 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:30:52 -0400 Subject: In Chicago True Oldies will be WLS-FM In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806262203v640a9138o7b06afc0f69be228@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770806190806o7919627dq5584fe7dd6556c64@mail.gmail.com> <485A9AD6.9030600@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080619150923.0453a9f0@belloassoc.com> <4fc429770806262203v640a9138o7b06afc0f69be228@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987D00084@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>Can WPLJ be far behind becoming WABC-FM?<< Yes...VERY far behind. WZZN was doing essentially nothing in the ratings, and was ripe for a change. WPLJ is an established station with strong ratings for many years, and is a well-known brand name. Not gonna happen. Remember too that what's propping up WLS-FM is a syndicated format...Scott Shannon's True Oldies. They'll have a few local shows with well-known local air personalities (Dick Biondi is one), but most of the programming will be off the bird. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 From m_carney@yahoo.com Fri Jun 27 08:42:52 2008 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 05:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Good Bye Hazel Mae Message-ID: <663455.5651.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I can't see her at WBZ for 2 big reasons - outsized ego and big money. She has the former and wants the later (unless she's come to her senses about market realities), and CBS doesn't want to give up the dough anymore. She seems (IMHO) to be someone who would be a disruption in the "look at me" and "the camera wasn't on me enough" sense. Given the recent changes in the newsroom if I were GM or News Director I would have to think long and hard before I commit to that situation. Things are bad enough - why make morale worse? ----- Original Message ---- From: Kevin Vahey To: (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:33:25 AM Subject: Good Bye Hazel Mae Tonight (Friday) will end the 4 year run of Hazel Mae on NESN While she is under contract until July 31st she will vanish as of tonight. However there are strong rumors that WBZ-TV has chosen her to replace Bob Lobel. It does appear she is staying local. From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Jun 27 08:14:37 2008 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:14:37 -0400 Subject: In Chicago True Oldies will be WLS-FM In-Reply-To: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80987D00084@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <8EBA3EC13AD84C3F845F6C1BAAFD2C79@DHPP0DB1> > >>Can WPLJ be far behind becoming WABC-FM?<< > > Yes...VERY far behind. > > WZZN was doing essentially nothing in the ratings, and was ripe for a > change. WPLJ is an established station with strong ratings for many > years, and is a well-known brand name. Not gonna happen. > > Remember too that what's propping up WLS-FM is a syndicated format...Scott > Shannon's True Oldies. They'll have a few local shows with well-known > local air personalities (Dick Biondi is one), but most of the programming > will be off the bird. Plus, WCBS-FM in NY is already basically doing the same format. These days, there's not much "true" about "True Oldies" anymore. Back when 830 WCRN carried the format, there was a lot more 50s/early 60s music than there is today. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From billohno@gmail.com Fri Jun 27 08:54:24 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:54:24 -0400 Subject: Don Imus Once Again Injected Race Into His Radio Show In-Reply-To: <01a301c8d592$39935ec0$0202a8c0@Mark> References: <01a301c8d592$39935ec0$0202a8c0@Mark> Message-ID: <4864E300.4040206@gmail.com> Mark Watson wrote: > Don Imus and his sports reporter Warner Wolf were discussing the > legal troubles of NFL player Adam "Pacman" Jones during today's show. > Imus made a comment about Mr. Jones' race. The Rev. Al Sharpton is > none too pleased with what Imus said today. > > I hope that this story fizzles. I was listening. It was Imus saying, to THIS effect, "Goes to show you, they treated him WORSE because he was black - unfair." Al Sharpton is becoming less and less relevant every time he jumps on a bandwagon that has no fuel. You'd think it was an election year. Bill O'Neill From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Jun 27 13:26:02 2008 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Vote for Larry Miller in 2008! Message-ID: <17328671.1214587562452.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> No, not in THAT election... Larry Miller, whose Boston radio history from 1977 on included WCOZ, WCAS, WDLW, WCRB, WBUR, WBOQ, teaching broadcasting at New England Art Institute, and since fall 2005 back on the air on M.I.T.'s non-comm WMBR's "Lost & Found" 1960s/'70s program every other Tuesday (sharing the slot alternating weeks with me) has been nominated to the 2008 Bay Area Radio Hall Of Fame, in recognition of his pioneering progressive "free-form underground" FM album rock radio on KMPX San Francisco in early 1967! About a dozen nominees of approximately 115 candidates (including some very notable legends in broadcasting) will make it in this year. I'm hoping Larry will be one of them, and you can help to make it happen! Larry began doing "free-form" radio overnights on KMPX, which was otherwise a failing foreign language station then in February 1967, a few months before the late Tom Donahue came in and transformed Larry's programming style into the stations new full-time format while usurping the historical notoriety for pioneering the format from him. Many published historical accounts give Donahue credit for pioneering "FM underground" radio (on the west coast), but Larry had already been doing it there first! Donahue was elected posthumously into the Bay Area Radio Hall of Fame when it opened a few years ago, now it's Larry's turn to get some of the recognition he deserves! You can help to vote Larry into the 2008 Bay Area Radio Hall of Fame by going here: http://www.bayarearadio.org/hof/barhof_2008_vote.shtml Even lifetime New Englanders will recognize a number of the other nominees names as well. The ballot closes Tuesday, July 1, just a few more days! Larry's radio career in between KMPX in 1967 and WCOZ in 1977 included stints at WABX Detroit, KLOS Los Angeles, WPLJ New York City and WBAB on Long Island among others. You can hear Larry's next show on WMBR 88.1 FM in greater Boston or streaming at http://www.wmbr.org Tuesday, July 8th, from 12 noon - 2 PM, or you can also go the website for audio archives of all programs posted for two weeks. Larry's "Lost & Found" show from this past Tuesday June 24th, including his George Carlin tribute, is still up. (As with all WMBR archives, you'll hear the last couple of minutes of the previous program on the file before the show that you selected begings). Eli Polonsky From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Fri Jun 27 13:29:42 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:29:42 -0400 Subject: Jefferson Kay Audition Tape and Promotional Flyer References: <4fc429770806270006h6e9f965dsd67226c6657c83d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5D50A8C097634786859FB1E2CF6FC361@MainXPPro> > On 6/26/08, Cdsull502@aol.com wrote: > >> While surfing the net, I found this rather remarkable link on the >> excellent >> WKBW tribute web site. It appears to be an audition tape prepared by >> Jeff >> Kaye when he was at WBZ. Also included is a brochure detailing his >> background >> and broadcasting experience prior to his coming to WBZ. While WKBW offerred Jeff Kaye a lot more opportunities...I'm surprised someone be looking to leave WBZ and go to Buffalo. Evenings at WKBW was considered a "step up" from overnights on WBZ? > He made an >> amazing >> jump from two small RI radio stations to the big time in Boston. Although his "pitch book" names WHIM as the "number one station in the area". Isn't that a stretch? Wasn't WHIM always a daytimer? Hard to ignore WPRO and WJAR, isn't it? From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Jun 23 15:46:20 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:46:20 -0400 Subject: Get together this summer In-Reply-To: <197d01c8d566$34950120$0200a8c0@Office> References: <197d01c8d566$34950120$0200a8c0@Office> Message-ID: <001c01c8d569$d557e9d0$c7151bac@MasterExtra> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Gary's Ice Cream > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:21 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: Get together this summer > > Actually----I was thinking of a get-together myself this > year. I work most Saturday nights all summer at Salisbury > Beach doing "The Saturday Night Sock Hop" now in its 19th season. > > BUT, I do have July 19th off - a Saturday night or we could > do something on > a Sunday afternoon. S--t, I'm away on vacation that (and the next) weekend! From hmadjid@gmail.com Fri Jun 27 15:17:14 2008 From: hmadjid@gmail.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:17:14 -0400 Subject: WTKK knocked off the air by thunderstorm Message-ID: It seems like the severe thunderstorm that came through about an hour ago downtown knocked 96.9 off the air for a better part of the next hour. They went dead at approximately 2:02pm [Friday 6/27]. They're back now [3:10pm]. 73 de Hakim, (N1ZFF) From kvahey@comcast.net Fri Jun 27 15:26:21 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:26:21 -0500 Subject: Good Bye Hazel Mae In-Reply-To: <663455.5651.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <663455.5651.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770806271226k1697f3eeq1413cc133ae4a782@mail.gmail.com> There was a good bye party for Hazel at the Pour House last night and all she is saying is she is staying in Boston. So what are the possibilities? CSN unlikely would offer her a bump in salary. WCVB, NECN and WHDH unlikely. FOX25? Nobody tunes in to see Butch Sterns so that is possible. Channel 4? It would be a slap at Steve Burton. Still they could offer a nice salary bump over NESN. It's possible ESPN could be in the mix as they already provide Boston Coach limos for 2 talents who live in Boston. From kvahey@comcast.net Fri Jun 27 15:50:38 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:50:38 -0500 Subject: Jefferson Kay Audition Tape and Promotional Flyer In-Reply-To: <5D50A8C097634786859FB1E2CF6FC361@MainXPPro> References: <4fc429770806270006h6e9f965dsd67226c6657c83d8@mail.gmail.com> <5D50A8C097634786859FB1E2CF6FC361@MainXPPro> Message-ID: <4fc429770806271250s130944c2r841d4a557410c792@mail.gmail.com> Jeff didn't want to leave BZ but Westinghouse didn't renew his contract. They decided to go with Ron Landry out of Hartford. BZ's attituide in those days was they could play polka music and still be #1. Kaye was going to go to WPRO and at the last minute Cap Cities (owner of WPRO and WKBW) offered the PD slot in Buffalo and the strong nightime signal. Last I heard Kaye was fighting throat cancer and was retired from NFL Films. On 6/27/08, Don A wrote: > > >> On 6/26/08, Cdsull502@aol.com wrote: >> >>> While surfing the net, I found this rather remarkable link on the >>> excellent >>> WKBW tribute web site. It appears to be an audition tape prepared by >>> Jeff >>> Kaye when he was at WBZ. Also included is a brochure detailing his >>> background >>> and broadcasting experience prior to his coming to WBZ. > > While WKBW offerred Jeff Kaye a lot more opportunities...I'm surprised > someone be looking to leave WBZ and go to Buffalo. > > Evenings at WKBW was considered a "step up" from overnights on WBZ? > >> He made an >>> amazing >>> jump from two small RI radio stations to the big time in Boston. > > Although his "pitch book" names WHIM as the "number one station in the > area". > > Isn't that a stretch? Wasn't WHIM always a daytimer? > > Hard to ignore WPRO and WJAR, isn't it? > > > > From m_carney@yahoo.com Fri Jun 27 15:57:31 2008 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Good Bye Hazel Mae Message-ID: <930725.43319.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I can assure you she's not coming to CSN at this point. There's been no mention of her in the building, no shifting of office space or change in programming to accomodate her. ----- Original Message ---- From: Kevin Vahey To: Maureen Carney Cc: Boston Radio Group Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:26:21 PM Subject: Re: Good Bye Hazel Mae There was a good bye party for Hazel at the Pour House last night and all she is saying is she is staying in Boston. So what are the possibilities? CSN unlikely would offer her a bump in salary. WCVB, NECN and WHDH unlikely. FOX25?? Nobody tunes in to see Butch Sterns so that is possible. Channel 4?? It would be a slap at Steve Burton. Still they could offer a nice salary bump over NESN. It's possible ESPN could be in the mix as they already provide Boston Coach limos for 2 talents who live in Boston. From kvahey@comcast.net Fri Jun 27 17:22:57 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:22:57 -0500 Subject: Jefferson Kay Audition Tape and Promotional Flyer In-Reply-To: <521b7fd10806271409q7906e2d8x486882bd5debd4f7@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770806270006h6e9f965dsd67226c6657c83d8@mail.gmail.com> <5D50A8C097634786859FB1E2CF6FC361@MainXPPro> <4fc429770806271250s130944c2r841d4a557410c792@mail.gmail.com> <521b7fd10806271409q7906e2d8x486882bd5debd4f7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770806271422s3baa60a6kca14eaf04ec41a6b@mail.gmail.com> No city in the country has lost more metropolitan population than Buffalo the past 30 years. When Bethlehem Steel closed the city never recovered. Metro today is about the same as Providence. Buffalo outlets at least have Southern Ontario to fall back on. Funny thing about KB in the 60's it never did well in the city itself as WYSL at 1400 owned the Top 40 market and later WGR. WBEN was always the big news station. From kvahey@comcast.net Fri Jun 27 17:35:50 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:35:50 -0500 Subject: Good Bye Hazel Mae In-Reply-To: <930725.43319.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <930725.43319.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770806271435o2dc8c9e3wad3aceee3b027c75@mail.gmail.com> NESN is a paradox. They may well be the most profitable media outlet in the market thanks to subscriber fees and they spent a small fortune on the Watertown complex. However they pay the Watertown support staff peanuts as for example master control operators get a whopping $8 an hour. They do pay top dollar for game productions using National Mobile for remotes and Green Line Group for crew. Bob Kurtz who took over for Ned Martin was offered more money to do Wild hockey on radio in Minneapolis and left. Orsillo makes a fraction of what Sean McDonough was making. Remy supplements his income with The Remy Report which the Red Sox link to on their home page. On 6/27/08, Maureen Carney wrote: > I can assure you she's not coming to CSN at this point. There's been no > mention of her in the building, no shifting of office space or change in > programming to accomodate her. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Kevin Vahey > To: Maureen Carney > Cc: Boston Radio Group > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:26:21 PM > Subject: Re: Good Bye Hazel Mae > > There was a good bye party for Hazel at the Pour House last night and > all she is saying is she is staying in Boston. > > So what are the possibilities? > > CSN unlikely would offer her a bump in salary. > > WCVB, NECN and WHDH unlikely. > > FOX25? Nobody tunes in to see Butch Sterns so that is possible. > > Channel 4? It would be a slap at Steve Burton. Still they could offer > a nice salary bump over NESN. > > It's possible ESPN could be in the mix as they already provide Boston > Coach limos for 2 talents who live in Boston. > > > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Jun 27 19:10:20 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:10:20 -0400 Subject: Good Bye Hazel Mae In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806271435o2dc8c9e3wad3aceee3b027c75@mail.gmail.com> References: <930725.43319.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4fc429770806271435o2dc8c9e3wad3aceee3b027c75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: NESN management is smart enough to know that their profits do not depend upon talent. The only person who might hurt them by leaving is Remy. Why should they overpay for replaceable parts? Hazel is great too look at and is reasonably skilled. But NESN will lose no viewers and no money when she leaves. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Maureen Carney" Cc: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Good Bye Hazel Mae > NESN is a paradox. They may well be the most profitable media outlet > in the market thanks to subscriber fees and they spent a small fortune > on the Watertown complex. > > However they pay the Watertown support staff peanuts as for example > master control operators get a whopping $8 an hour. > > They do pay top dollar for game productions using National Mobile for > remotes and Green Line Group for crew. > > Bob Kurtz who took over for Ned Martin was offered more money to do > Wild hockey on radio in Minneapolis and left. > > Orsillo makes a fraction of what Sean McDonough was making. Remy > supplements his income with The Remy Report which the Red Sox link to > on their home page. > > > > On 6/27/08, Maureen Carney wrote: >> I can assure you she's not coming to CSN at this point. There's been no >> mention of her in the building, no shifting of office space or change in >> programming to accomodate her. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Kevin Vahey >> To: Maureen Carney >> Cc: Boston Radio Group >> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:26:21 PM >> Subject: Re: Good Bye Hazel Mae >> >> There was a good bye party for Hazel at the Pour House last night and >> all she is saying is she is staying in Boston. >> >> So what are the possibilities? >> >> CSN unlikely would offer her a bump in salary. >> >> WCVB, NECN and WHDH unlikely. >> >> FOX25? Nobody tunes in to see Butch Sterns so that is possible. >> >> Channel 4? It would be a slap at Steve Burton. Still they could offer >> a nice salary bump over NESN. >> >> It's possible ESPN could be in the mix as they already provide Boston >> Coach limos for 2 talents who live in Boston. >> >> >> >> > From rickkelly@gmail.com Fri Jun 27 17:09:22 2008 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:09:22 -0400 Subject: Jefferson Kay Audition Tape and Promotional Flyer In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806271250s130944c2r841d4a557410c792@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770806270006h6e9f965dsd67226c6657c83d8@mail.gmail.com> <5D50A8C097634786859FB1E2CF6FC361@MainXPPro> <4fc429770806271250s130944c2r841d4a557410c792@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd10806271409q7906e2d8x486882bd5debd4f7@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Jeff didn't want to leave BZ but Westinghouse didn't renew his > contract. They decided to go with Ron Landry out of Hartford. BZ's > attituide in those days was they could play polka music and still be > #1. > > Kaye was going to go to WPRO and at the last minute Cap Cities (owner > of WPRO and WKBW) offered the PD slot in Buffalo and the strong > nightime signal. Another factor might have been the market size... in those days, I believe Buffalo was a Top 20 radio market. Not anymore of course - surpassed by other (many in the South and west) markets. Buffalo and KB in those days was a big deal. Rick Kelly northeastairchecks.com From hykker@wildblue.net Fri Jun 27 23:57:47 2008 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:57:47 -0400 Subject: Jefferson Kay Audition Tape and Promotional Flyer In-Reply-To: <4fc429770806271422s3baa60a6kca14eaf04ec41a6b@mail.gmail.co m> References: <4fc429770806270006h6e9f965dsd67226c6657c83d8@mail.gmail.com> <5D50A8C097634786859FB1E2CF6FC361@MainXPPro> <4fc429770806271250s130944c2r841d4a557410c792@mail.gmail.com> <521b7fd10806271409q7906e2d8x486882bd5debd4f7@mail.gmail.com> <4fc429770806271422s3baa60a6kca14eaf04ec41a6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4865b6c8.50e3220a.3b75.ffffaa2f@mx.google.com> At 05:22 PM 6/27/2008, Kevin Vahey wrote: >Funny thing about KB in the 60's it never did well in the city itself >as WYSL at 1400 owned the Top 40 market and later WGR. I had always heard the same about WPTR in Albany. Despite their strong (highly directional) signal that blasted into Vermont, N.H. and Maine I've heard that in the tri-cities themselves WTRY ate their lunch. Of course 1540 puts no signal to the west...indeed they're long gone by the time you get to Amsterdam on the N.Y. Thruway. I'd guess that, like many AMs today their signal has deteriorated considerably. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Jun 28 09:01:46 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:01:46 -0400 Subject: Jefferson Kay Audition Tape and Promotional Flyer References: <4fc429770806270006h6e9f965dsd67226c6657c83d8@mail.gmail.com><5D50A8C097634786859FB1E2CF6FC361@MainXPPro><4fc429770806271250s130944c2r841d4a557410c792@mail.gmail.com><521b7fd10806271409q7906e2d8x486882bd5debd4f7@mail.gmail.com><4fc429770806271422s3baa60a6kca14eaf04ec41a6b@mail.gmail.com> <4865b6c8.50e3220a.3b75.ffffaa2f@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <18F5DC2358D34BB3AF60D5EBCDE90F44@SatU205S5044> Due to some weired anomalies in the ground conductivity in the Capital District, WPTR also has a pretty poor signal in parts of Albany just a few miles from the transmitter site and is uncompetivie in the northern Hudson Valley anywhere south of East Greenbush--an area that is an essential part of the market. Back when WTRY was DA-1, it had a better signal in all parts of the market except for Saratoga Springs, where it could not cover well because it had to protect the 980 in Montreal (since moved to 990). In the early to mid 60s, WTRY changed from DA-1 to DA-N, which took care of Mechanicville and Saratoga by day and increased the daytime signal strength in Schenectady as well, at the expense of the signal strength in Albany and Troy. In Troy, in particular, the signal strength remains very strong, however. WPTR signed on in 1947 or 1948 with 10 kW-U DA-1 using the same transmitter site, half-wave towers and pattern that it uses to this day with 50 kW-U. In only a year or so, the station had increased to 50 kW-U. Supposedly, the increase was granted so quickly because the signal in downtown Albany was so pathetic. Back then, AMs were required to deliver 25 mV/m to the "principal business district" of the CoL. Depute running 50 kW-U directionalized to the north and east from a site on the Albany-Schenectady Rd midway between downtown Albany and downtown Schenectady, WPTR, couldn't come close to 25 mV/m in downtown Albany. Even after the increase to 50 kW-U, the signal in downtown Albany could not be characterized as a "solid" 25 mV/m! Meanwhile, in downtown Schenctady, an equal distance from the WPTR Tx, the signal exceeded 75 mV/m! ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:57 PM Subject: Re: Jefferson Kay Audition Tape and Promotional Flyer > At 05:22 PM 6/27/2008, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > >>Funny thing about KB in the 60's it never did well in the city >>itself >>as WYSL at 1400 owned the Top 40 market and later WGR. > > > I had always heard the same about WPTR in Albany. Despite their > strong (highly directional) signal that blasted into Vermont, N.H. > and Maine I've heard that in the tri-cities themselves WTRY ate > their lunch. Of course 1540 puts no signal to the west...indeed > they're long gone by the time you get to Amsterdam on the N.Y. > Thruway. > I'd guess that, like many AMs today their signal has deteriorated > considerably. From markwa1ion@aol.com Sat Jun 28 10:47:54 2008 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:47:54 -0400 Subject: WPTR/WDCD-1540, sandy soil in the area Message-ID: <8CAA74514B129C0-640-4390@WEBMAIL-MB16.sysops.aol.com> The Albany, NY region has some sandy areas that, due to the prevalence of pitch pine woodlands, bear a striking resemblance to Cape Cod along Route 6. Sandy soil, of course, has very low conductivity. When you go from a quick transition from sand to salt water, as on the Cape, you wind up with startlingly directional performance at that boundary. Probably something you'd need a 5-tower array to replicate in a homogeneous-ground-composition area. The radio locator site's maps show this very well on sandy-shore "non-directional" graveyarders like Atlantic City (1340, 1400, 1450, 1490) and Cape Cod (1240). Reception of long-haul overseas signals from these coastal boundaries is also very common - aided both by the salt-water gain and also by the sandy soil reducing what's coming from inland sources of interference. Mark Connelly - Billerica, MA << Due to some weird anomalies in the ground conductivity in the Capital District, WPTR also has a pretty poor signal in parts of Albany just a few miles from the transmitter site and is uncompetivie in the northern Hudson Valley anywhere south of East Greenbush--an area that is an essential part of the market. Back when WTRY was DA-1, it had a better signal in all parts of the market except for Saratoga Springs, where it could not cover well because it had to protect the 980 in Montreal (since moved to 990). In the early to mid 60s, WTRY changed from DA-1 to DA-N, which took care of Mechanicville and Saratoga by day and increased the daytime signal strength in Schenectady as well, at the expense of the signal strength in Albany and Troy. In Troy, in particular, the signal strength remains very strong, however. WPTR signed on in 1947 or 1948 with 10 kW-U DA-1 using the same transmitter site, half-wave towers and pattern that it uses to this day with 50 kW-U. In only a year or so, the station had increased to 50 kW-U. Supposedly, the increase was granted so quickly because the signal in downtown Albany was so pathetic. Back then, AMs were required to deliver 25 mV/m to the "principal business district" of the CoL. Depute running 50 kW-U directionalized to the north and east from a site on the Albany-Schenectady Rd midway between downtown Albany and downtown Schenectady, WPTR, couldn't come close to 25 mV/m in downtown Albany. Even after the increase to 50 kW-U, the signal in downtown Albany could not be characterized as a "solid" 25 mV/m! Meanwhile, in downtown Schenctady, an equal distance from the WPTR Tx, the signal exceeded 75 mV/m! ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 >> From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Jun 28 15:17:48 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:17:48 -0500 Subject: Jefferson Kay Audition Tape and Promotional Flyer In-Reply-To: <4865b6c8.50e3220a.3b75.ffffaa2f@mx.google.com> References: <4fc429770806270006h6e9f965dsd67226c6657c83d8@mail.gmail.com> <5D50A8C097634786859FB1E2CF6FC361@MainXPPro> <4fc429770806271250s130944c2r841d4a557410c792@mail.gmail.com> <521b7fd10806271409q7906e2d8x486882bd5debd4f7@mail.gmail.com> <4fc429770806271422s3baa60a6kca14eaf04ec41a6b@mail.gmail.com> <4865b6c8.50e3220a.3b75.ffffaa2f@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770806281217v5a60ad4s20582aafe7f6b1b0@mail.gmail.com> It wasn't unusual for a station with an inferior signal beating the big boys in the COL. New York had WMCA, Chicago WCFL, Toronto CKFH and of course Boston with WMEX and later WRKO. In Buffalo WYSL at 1400 still was able to cover the city with 250 watts at night and KB simply wasn't as popular. Daytime my friends would also tune in CHUM and CKLW. BZ really lost it's way for almost a decade after WRKO came along switching to MOR and WHDH countered by going to a soft Top 40 which was a huge success. Today WBZ is a preset with most listeners as they stand alone in having an active newsroom and comprehensive traffic and weather. WRKO simply abolished news to help pay for the Red Sox contract. WBUR is now the only other option. I wonder how the landscape will look 10 years from now. On 6/27/08, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > At 05:22 PM 6/27/2008, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > >>Funny thing about KB in the 60's it never did well in the city itself >>as WYSL at 1400 owned the Top 40 market and later WGR. > > > I had always heard the same about WPTR in Albany. Despite their > strong (highly directional) signal that blasted into Vermont, N.H. > and Maine I've heard that in the tri-cities themselves WTRY ate their > lunch. Of course 1540 puts no signal to the west...indeed they're > long gone by the time you get to Amsterdam on the N.Y. Thruway. > I'd guess that, like many AMs today their signal has deteriorated > considerably. > > From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Jun 29 14:54:30 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:54:30 -0400 Subject: I think they call that "Buying the wrong demo" Message-ID: <18535.55910.479653.771515@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Driving home from Tanglewood last night, I listened for about half an hour to WRNX (100.9A Amherst). They had two stop sets during that time; the first spot in both was for Wells Fargo reverse mortgages -- a product which is by law restricted to those over 62 1/2 years old. I don't think there are too many people my father's age listening to that station. -GAWollman From rogerkola@aol.com Sun Jun 29 15:26:04 2008 From: rogerkola@aol.com (rogerkola@aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:26:04 -0400 Subject: I think they call that "Buying the wrong demo" In-Reply-To: <18535.55910.479653.771515@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <18535.55910.479653.771515@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <8CAA8351B500FB7-B9C-55BB@WEBMAIL-MC07.sysops.aol.com> As part of a VNA/Health Care Provider group, I came to realize that many decisions which involve the assets including the "Family Homestead" are initiated or "run by" the family members who should be knowledgable about how they work to protect the older adults from fraud. I think the demo probably works, especially if the spot price is reasonable. East Boston Savings utilizes WBZ to promote their Reverse Mortgages at what I am sure is a much higher rate. Roger WA1KAT -----Original Message----- From: Garrett Wollman To: bri@bostonradio.org Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 2:54 pm Subject: I think they call that "Buying the wrong demo" Driving home from Tanglewood last night, I listened for about half an hour to WRNX (100.9A Amherst). They had two stop sets during that time; the first spot in both was for Wells Fargo reverse mortgages -- a product which is by law restricted to those over 62 1/2 years old. I don't think there are too many people my father's age listening to that station. -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jun 29 16:03:14 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:03:14 -0400 Subject: I think they call that "Buying the wrong demo" References: <18535.55910.479653.771515@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: So explain this one: From what I've read, GEICO still does not sell auto-insurance in Mass. My car was insured by GEICO around 1973, when the company was in deep financial trouble (this was before Warren Buffet bought it) and it pulled out of Mass. I had to scramble to find another insurer before my policy was cancelled. Now, even if you don't count all of the GEICO ads that appear to be national buys that are seen/heard on radio and TV stations in Mass, the number of GEICO ads that appear to have been bought intentionally on Mass stations must place GEICO ad buys very near the top of auto-insurance ad expenditures in this state. Since GEICO doesn't sell auto insurance in Mass, what are they doing? All I can figure is that they are contemplating a return to Mass and they are buying name recognition here in anticipation of that return. But they aren't yet convinced that they can make a profit with the new competitve rates here and are gambling that the name recognition will buy them a big advantage if and when they pull the trigger. Sounds like an expensive wager to me, but with Buffet behind the company, they must know what they are doing. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 2:54 PM Subject: I think they call that "Buying the wrong demo" > Driving home from Tanglewood last night, I listened for about half > an > hour to WRNX (100.9A Amherst). They had two stop sets during that > time; the first spot in both was for Wells Fargo reverse > mortgages -- > a product which is by law restricted to those over 62 1/2 years old. > I don't think there are too many people my father's age listening to > that station. > > -GAWollman > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sun Jun 29 17:55:02 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:55:02 -0400 Subject: I think they call that "Buying the wrong demo" References: <18535.55910.479653.771515@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: > Since GEICO doesn't sell > auto insurance in Mass, what are they doing? I think theses are network/national buys.....that just happen to run in Massachusetts. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sun Jun 29 18:41:16 2008 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:41:16 -0400 Subject: I think they call that "Buying the wrong demo" References: <18535.55910.479653.771515@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <000a01c8da39$3f0bad20$0501a8c0@Family> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" Subject: Re: I think they call that "Buying the wrong demo" > So explain this one: From what I've read, GEICO still does not sell > auto-insurance in Mass. My car was insured by GEICO around 1973, when > the company was in deep financial trouble (this was before Warren > Buffet bought it) and it pulled out of Mass. I had to scramble to find > another insurer before my policy was cancelled. > > Now, even if you don't count all of the GEICO ads that appear to be > national buys that are seen/heard on radio and TV stations in Mass, > the number of GEICO ads that appear to have been bought intentionally > on Mass stations must place GEICO ad buys very near the top of > auto-insurance ad expenditures in this state. Since GEICO doesn't sell > auto insurance in Mass, what are they doing? All I can figure is that > they are contemplating a return to Mass and they are buying name > recognition here in anticipation of that return. But they aren't yet > convinced that they can make a profit with the new competitve rates > here and are gambling that the name recognition will buy them a big > advantage if and when they pull the trigger. Sounds like an expensive > wager to me, but with Buffet behind the company, they must know what > they are doing. > iirc - GEICO stood for Government Employees Insurance Company. it was available to me as a member of the US Navy (1977-1981) if i cared to do so. i don't know whether or not Buffett had anything to do with this company as it was not unlike a credit union at the time - services available providing you were a member/employee of a specific group or company. i bought a car in 1978 in Charleston, SC but went with the local AllState branch. i almost switched to GEICO as when i was assigned to Brunswick, Maine in 1978, i was directed to a "different" AllState Insurance office that was specifically for members of the military, as opposed to "regular" people when i tried to change my coverage and home address. many of my shipmates were insured through GEICO and were very satisfied with the coverage, and that its reach was nationwide through its military affiliation, regardless of where one was stationed. as to the availability of their coverage, they are a godsend to broadcasting as one of the best-spending advertisers, radio or tv. --Chuck Igo From kvahey@comcast.net Sun Jun 29 19:00:00 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:00:00 -0500 Subject: I think they call that "Buying the wrong demo" In-Reply-To: References: <18535.55910.479653.771515@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4fc429770806291600m5b23d255ic4211a17f02aa62@mail.gmail.com> and in many cases the signal can be heard in New Hampshire, Maine and Rhode Island and in western Mass Connecticut, Vermont and New York. Geico most likely will watch the new system for a year before coming in as will Allstate and State Farm. On 6/29/08, Don A wrote: > >> Since GEICO doesn't sell >> auto insurance in Mass, what are they doing? > > I think theses are network/national buys.....that just happen to run in > Massachusetts. > > From lglavin@mail.com Mon Jun 30 12:45:58 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:45:58 -0500 Subject: I think they call that "Buying the wrong demo" Message-ID: <20080630164559.27EB232675A@ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan.Strassberg" >To: "Garrett Wollman" , bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: I think they call that "Buying the wrong demo" >Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:03:14 -0400 >So explain this one: From what I've read, GEICO still does not sell >auto-insurance in Mass. My car was insured by GEICO around 1973, when >the company was in deep financial trouble (this was before Warren >Buffet bought it) and it pulled out of Mass. I had to scramble to find >another insurer before my policy was cancelled. >Now, even if you don't count all of the GEICO ads that appear to be >national buys that are seen/heard on radio and TV stations in Mass, >the number of GEICO ads that appear to have been bought intentionally >on Mass stations must place GEICO ad buys very near the top of >auto-insurance ad expenditures in this state. Since GEICO doesn't sell >auto insurance in Mass, what are they doing? All during the time period during which "progressive Talk" was programmed on WXKS-AM 1430 in Boston/Everett and WKOX-AM 1200 in Framingham, many of the local insertions for Jones and Air America shows included Geico spots, long before Mass auto insurance "reform". Even then, I wondered why a company not licensed to business in the Bay State ran all those spots! The mere fact that each station could be HEARD in neighboring states that offered Geico service didn't mean that large numbers of people got sufficient signal strangth from either to make such buys worthwhile. I always knew the WXKS-AM/WKOX operation got a hearing in Metro Boston and Metro West because the live shows got numerous calls from Boston and points west; not so many from RI or NH. (Stephanie Miller in particular took at least one call in any given hour from the Boston area, including me.) -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From lglavin@mail.com Mon Jun 30 13:28:23 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:28:23 -0500 Subject: OK, Now WRCA-AM 1330's Signal Is Weak Message-ID: <20080630172823.D0329478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Last week, I observed that the signal of WUNR-AM 1600 was greatly dimished at my location about 30 miles north of Oak Hill Park. Now, the signal from WRCA-AM 1330 in Waltham, which has a CP to join WUNR at the same site, has diminished somewhat, just not to the vanishing point (almost) of WUNR. A violent lightning storm hit Waltham Friday the 27th, knocking down trees and causing power outages in that City, so when I noticed that WRCA was emitting less signal, I thought they might have been running from a generator. But now it's Monday, and the situation with WRCA is the same. If they indeed HAVE moved to 750 Sawmill Brook Parkway (thus leaving behind 750 South Street...what a coincidence!) it's not a minute too soon, judging from this missive: http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getattachment_exh.cgi?exhibit_id=649618 NOTE: the correspondence places the former WRCA transmitter in Watertown...oops. -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From theseacoast@maine.rr.com Mon Jun 30 13:03:18 2008 From: theseacoast@maine.rr.com (The Seacoast) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:03:18 -0400 Subject: WMYF-HD Message-ID: <000601c8dad3$323de190$6501a8c0@vpr1> I've noticed the past week or so, WMYF (1380) Portsmouth, is broadcasting in AM-HD. Sure cleans up very nice here in York, where the crappy signal can be noisy. SS From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Jun 30 19:51:21 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:51:21 -0400 Subject: I think they call that "Buying the wrong demo" References: <20080630164559.27EB232675A@ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <9C140B3BDAD5449FB68E7A3F49F42588@MainXPPro> >> All during the time period during which "progressive Talk" was programmed on WXKS-AM 1430 in Boston/Everett and WKOX-AM 1200 in Framingham, many of the local insertions for Jones and Air America shows included Geico spots.. >> They could have: a.) been inserted by the local station as part of a (anohter) network affilliation. (Say, WW1...or from Clear Channel National Sales) and therfore part of a national buy. b.) inserted by the network into the local stop set. CNN used to sell (at a big discount) the stopset that was set aside for local insertions....with the idea that some cable systems would run the stop set as is, when they didn't have anything local to cover it with.