From rac@gabrielmass.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:15 2008 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:00:15 -0400 Subject: Community Auditions returns to Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <4fc429770803311744y583e554cl2a3e42968e66af80@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770803311744y583e554cl2a3e42968e66af80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F1B34F.8090501@gabrielmass.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: > The Globe is reporting that Community Auditions is returning to Channel 4. The most worthy successor to Dave Maynard, IMHO, would be Tom Bergeron, but he's probably busy these days! On the other hand, if the show is reformulated as a local counterpart to "American Idol", who should be taking the role of the judges? --RC From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Apr 1 01:24:16 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:24:16 -0400 Subject: WCAP's signal In-Reply-To: <001201c8933b$e92e2c50$fdf8a742@SatU205S5044> References: <47F02E74.17569.22A26AB@joe.attorneyross.com>, <001201c8933b$e92e2c50$fdf8a742@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <47F18EC0.8035.23DDA@joe.attorneyross.com> On 31 Mar 2008 at 10:31, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > The V-Soft Web site lists WCAP's signal strength in Brookline's 02446 > Zip code as 1.41 mV/m at night and 0.55 mV/m by day. I believe that > Brookline's population is in the neighborhood of 29,000, right? Nearly 60,000 -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From mike@miscon.net Tue Apr 1 08:28:13 2008 From: mike@miscon.net (mike@miscon.net) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:28:13 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: Kid's Show Hosts (was: WMUR) In-Reply-To: <201342.69707.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <201342.69707.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <.132.185.144.123.1207052893.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Maureen said, over a week ago: > Most of the TV kid's hosts didn't set out to do that. It's what they had > to do to stay employed. Some were clowns or children's entertainers but > many were station announcers assigned to that particular show in the > course of their duties.? I know I'm rather late coming into this discussion, but I can attest to one "Mister Mike," host of the Children's Music Hour on WOTW in the mid 80's being thrust into that position. I had originally thought that it was simply another taped program I had to rack up when I interviewed with Ernie Jenkins the previous Friday. Heheh. But to this day, it ended up being the most fun I've ever had in radio. (though I still have a lot of fun!) Mike From mike@miscon.net Tue Apr 1 09:19:09 2008 From: mike@miscon.net (mike@miscon.net) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:19:09 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: Record libraries In-Reply-To: <47E84F09.28556.6EC1E1@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <0c3a01c88e0f$4471a010$6501a8c0@DougDrown> <47E84F09.28556.6EC1E1@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <.132.185.240.120.1207055949.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> earlier, A. Joseph Ross queried: >... what happens to stations' record libraries?? I remember that after both WSSH and WLLH were sold by Mr. Lerner, the records from those stations that remained at the 4 Broadway location were sold as part of a "removal" contract, when the station exited the building. I think the "company" (two guys, IIRC) paid $500 for the salvage rights to all property in the building - including the record library. I, however, had negotiated for the Coca Cola machine. Mike Yes, I still have the Coke machine. From m_carney@yahoo.com Tue Apr 1 09:19:14 2008 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 06:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: CBS makes major cutbacks in Chicago TV Message-ID: <625246.47551.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> CBS also axed a number of people at KYW, and offered a buyout to at least one long-term personality. ----- Original Message ---- From: Larry Weil To: (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:35:05 PM Subject: Re: CBS makes major cutbacks in Chicago TV At 8:47 PM -0400 3/31/08, Kevin Vahey wrote: >Today was ugly at WBBM-TV > >You have to wonder is WBZ-TV next on the list? What I have heard through the grapevine is that WBZ-TV laid off 26 people today (Monday), and that there are more to come tomorrow. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From billohno@gmail.com Tue Apr 1 10:54:48 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:54:48 -0400 Subject: Kid's Show Hosts In-Reply-To: <.132.185.144.123.1207052893.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> References: <201342.69707.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <.132.185.144.123.1207052893.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Message-ID: <47F24CB8.2000804@gmail.com> mike@miscon.net wrote: > > I know I'm rather late coming > into this discussion, but I can attest to one "Mister Mike," > host of the Children's Music Hour on WOTW in the mid 80's being thrust > into that position. I had originally thought that it was simply another > taped program I had to rack up when I interviewed with Ernie Jenkins the > previous Friday. > > Heheh. > > But to this day, it ended up > being the most fun I've ever had in radio. > > (though I still have > a lot of fun!) > > Mike > And I am honored to have been listening to my old buddy, "Mister Mike" as he debuted. "Hi. This is Mister Mike. And I lovve yeeewww." It was a ROFL moment before they were called ROFL moments. The thing that was great about it was, Mike did make it work. Bill O' -- I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio. /Rodney Dangerfield/ From m_carney@yahoo.com Tue Apr 1 16:51:39 2008 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: CBS makes major cutbacks in Chicago TV Message-ID: <805081.84283.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Another story from Broadcasting & Cable, on all the activity: http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6546558.html?desc=topstory Boston had the most job eliminations, but oddly didn't have any anchor cuts unlike Chicago and SF. Maybe negotiations are going on behind the scenes. ----- Original Message ---- From: Adam Gaffin To: Larry Weil Cc: (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:22:34 PM Subject: Re: CBS makes major cutbacks in Chicago TV WBZ-TV cuts 30 jobs http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/stories/2008/03/31/daily14.html?jst=b_ln_hl Larry Weil wrote: > At 8:47 PM -0400 3/31/08, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> Today was ugly at WBBM-TV >> >> You have to wonder is WBZ-TV next on the list? > > What I have heard through the grapevine is that WBZ-TV laid off 26 > people today (Monday), and that there are more to come tomorrow. > ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From markwats@comcast.net Tue Apr 1 18:25:00 2008 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:25:00 -0400 Subject: CBS makes major cutbacks in Chicago TV References: <805081.84283.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003e01c89447$3a49c0c0$0202a8c0@Mark> Maureen Carney wrote: > Boston had the most job eliminations, but oddly didn't have any anchor > cuts unlike Chicago and SF. Maybe negotiations are going on behind the > scenes. Found this Boston Herald article, which names a few of the employees let go: http://www.bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1084192 Article mentions that anchors and reportres weren't cut as they are under contract. Mark Watson From mike@miscon.net Tue Apr 1 20:02:55 2008 From: mike@miscon.net (mike@miscon.net) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:02:55 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: CBS makes major cutbacks in Chicago TV In-Reply-To: <003e01c89447$3a49c0c0$0202a8c0@Mark> References: <805081.84283.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <003e01c89447$3a49c0c0$0202a8c0@Mark> Message-ID: <.65.96.208.107.1207094575.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> > Maureen Carney wrote: > >> Boston had the most job eliminations, but oddly didn't have any anchor >> cuts unlike Chicago and SF. Maybe negotiations are going on behind the >> scenes. I always wonder how many managers get shown the door in these "job eliminations." Mike From sonnydaye1@gmail.com Wed Apr 2 00:00:00 2008 From: sonnydaye1@gmail.com (Sonny Daye) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:00:00 -0400 Subject: Digital TV Broadcasts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for that info! Looks like the sub-channels mostly simulcast the content on the main channel. What a waste! Hope that changes. Thanks again. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Drewcomix wrote: > maybe this was answered in thread....but if you go to Zap2It.com you can > get TV listings for any zip code, including the HD subchannels. > > -- a lurker! > ------------------------------ > Supercharge your AIM. Get the AIM toolbarfor your browser. > From elipolo@earthlink.net Wed Apr 2 00:55:18 2008 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:55:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Digital TV Broadcasts Message-ID: <31424536.1207112118428.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > From: Mark Laurence > CC: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > To: Sonny Daye > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:58:57 -0400 > Subject: Re: Digital TV Broadcasts > > On Mar 29, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Sonny Daye wrote: > > Most of the programs that require schedules are on 2 and 44. > 2.2 is WGBH HD. 44.2 is WGBH World. 44.3 is WGBH Create. > 44.4 is 'GBH Kids. These are all on the wgbh.org website. > 4, 5, 38, and 56 have no unique digital programming. My mom unwittingly bought a new HD set last year. She knew nothing about it, she thought she was just buying a new TV. When visiting a few months ago, I saw some sort of music video channel on 56.2. But, when I checked again recently, it was no longer there. EP From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Apr 2 01:10:12 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 01:10:12 -0400 Subject: Digital TV Broadcasts In-Reply-To: <31424536.1207112118428.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <31424536.1207112118428.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <18419.5428.712780.630905@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > My mom unwittingly bought a new HD set last year. She knew > nothing about it, she thought she was just buying a new TV. > When visiting a few months ago, I saw some sort of music > video channel on 56.2. But, when I checked again recently, > it was no longer there. "The Tube" ran into business-plan difficulties when the FCC decided that all digital subchannels would be treated independently for purposes of the children's programming requirement. -GAWollman From nostaticatall@charter.net Wed Apr 2 07:28:28 2008 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 07:28:28 -0400 Subject: CBS makes major cutbacks in Chicago TV In-Reply-To: <003e01c89447$3a49c0c0$0202a8c0@Mark> References: <805081.84283.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <003e01c89447$3a49c0c0$0202a8c0@Mark> Message-ID: <3008E3AA-67A7-409F-AA60-FAD1D30A387C@charter.net> WBZ radio reported this morning that buyout negotiations are currently going on with Bob Lobel, Joyce Kulhawick and Scott Wahle, so it's a fairly good bet those folks are as good as gone. I'm sure the same thing is going on with some reporters as well, but no other names were mentioned during that story. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Apr 1, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Mark Watson wrote: > Maureen Carney wrote: > >> Boston had the most job eliminations, but oddly didn't have any >> anchor cuts unlike Chicago and SF. Maybe negotiations are going on >> behind the scenes. > > Found this Boston Herald article, which names a few of the > employees let go: > > http://www.bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1084192 > > Article mentions that anchors and reportres weren't cut as they > are under contract. From kvahey@comcast.net Wed Apr 2 07:40:14 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 06:40:14 -0500 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 Message-ID: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> The Herald says Lobel and Kulhawik are gone "I can't look into that camera and say, 'Hey thanks. I've had a great time. I hope you have and I'll see you later.' I can't do that. I'll probably end up crying," a saddened Lobel, 64, told the Herald yesterday after the station moved to buy out his contract. "It's been such a personal relationship." http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1084409&srvc=home&position=0 Steve Buckley even has an 'obit' for Lobel It's like that old Norma Desmond line from "Sunset Boulevard." When the onetime silent picture star is told she used to be big, she icily replies, "I'm still big. It's the pictures that got small." And so it is with Bob Lobel. He's still big. It's the sports segments at 6 and 11 o'clock that got small. http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1084410 From HeritageRadio@msn.com Wed Apr 2 04:17:24 2008 From: HeritageRadio@msn.com (thomas heathwood) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 04:17:24 -0400 Subject: Gene Jones Message-ID: In reply to Doug's question - I do recall that years before the WBZ Community Auditions, Gene Jones was heard on WEEI on the live morning show which I think at that time was hosted by Carl Moore. Gene was part of a group called "Gene Jones ands His Java Jivers" who were the vocal group on the show every morning. This is strictly from my aging memory. Perhaps Donna and others remember in greater detail. I found myself groping for facts when I interviewed Jon Provost on my show this week. He, you may recall, was "Timmy" on the LASSIE show for 7 years. You can hear (streaming 24/7) at: www.VintageRadioPlace.com/broadcast now thru Saturday. Tom Heathwood 4/2 From revdoug1@verizon.net Wed Apr 2 09:24:32 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:24:32 -0400 Subject: Gene Jones References: Message-ID: <050b01c894c4$e3bc04b0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> I kind of assumed that Gene Jones had some kind of musical background, because he sang the theme song on the show. I had never known of the WEEI connection, however; the name Carl Moore doesn't ring any bells with me at all. Jon Provost does, though. He must be in his early 50s by now. Gad! (I even remember Tommy Rettig, the first boy who was on "Lassie." I can't recall the name of the character he played, though.) -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "thomas heathwood" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:17 AM Subject: Gene Jones In reply to Doug's question - I do recall that years before the WBZ Community Auditions, Gene Jones was heard on WEEI on the live morning show which I think at that time was hosted by Carl Moore. Gene was part of a group called "Gene Jones ands His Java Jivers" who were the vocal group on the show every morning. This is strictly from my aging memory. Perhaps Donna and others remember in greater detail. I found myself groping for facts when I interviewed Jon Provost on my show this week. He, you may recall, was "Timmy" on the LASSIE show for 7 years. You can hear (streaming 24/7) at: www.VintageRadioPlace.com/broadcast now thru Saturday. Tom Heathwood 4/2 From kvahey@comcast.net Wed Apr 2 09:25:57 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:25:57 -0400 Subject: is broadcasting broken beyond repair? Message-ID: <4fc429770804020625q25c3d157i1bf390dd3b5933db@mail.gmail.com> The cuts at 1170 SFR are devastating to both the staff and what remaining viewers the station has. I still watched 4 in most part because of Lobel and Jack Williams. Lobel may have gone downhill the past few years and had far less air time but if something broke he was still the best source in the city. Joyce opened the arts to all and will be missed as well. It's funny 20 years ago I was dating a woman who didn't own a TV and she screamed when she saw Joyce on TV because she was her english teacher at Brookline High a decade before. Joyce was local. Still the TV financial model is broken. There is something wrong when NESN brings in more revenue through cable fees than the VHF's can generate through ads. what is happening at WBZ is no different than what we are seeing at the Globe and with radio. Back in 1981 Chuck Scarboro who years ago was an anchor at channel 7 wrote a novel and the premise was that MIT had developed a computer program to make the perfect virtual anchorman. It seemed laughable at the time but now I see a day when we will get our news from avatars instead of humans. Same will apply to radio.....who needs humans. From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Apr 2 09:52:41 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:52:41 -0400 Subject: Gene Jones References: Message-ID: <003701c894c8$d390a060$3ceda644@SatU205S5044> By the time I arrived in Boston (summer of '56), I'm pretty sure that Tom Russell had taken over the MC duties on the WEEI (590) AM-drive show. Carl Moore and the live music were still on with him, though (just as Jess Cain on rival WHDH (850) co-hosted for the better part of a year with the previous morning host, Ray Dory; their show was called Dory and Cain). I believe that in that era, Moore also had his own show (also with live music) on WEEI (maybe in the noon to 1:00PM hour). I think maybe the live music ended first on WEEI and continued for several more years on WHDH. Wasn't there a musician by the name of Ken Greene (pianist, organist) on WHDH? Did he have a group called the Park Squares? Seems to me that he might have had a program in the 6:00PM hour. By the time I arrived in Boston, Bob and Ray had moved on from WHDH to New York City, but the mainstays of the lineup, besides Dory and Cain and Norm Nathan overnight, were Bob Clayton, Fred B Cole, and Roy Leonard. Leonard's show was called the Two and Eight Date and it appeared Monday thru Friday from 2:00 to 4:00PM and 8:00 to 10:00PM. Leonard's split schedule was similar to Martin Block's (and later, Jerry Marshall's) on WNEW (1130) in New York (10:00AM to noon; 5:35 to 7:00PM). ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "thomas heathwood" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:17 AM Subject: Gene Jones In reply to Doug's question - I do recall that years before the WBZ Community Auditions, Gene Jones was heard on WEEI on the live morning show which I think at that time was hosted by Carl Moore. Gene was part of a group called "Gene Jones ands His Java Jivers" who were the vocal group on the show every morning. This is strictly from my aging memory. Perhaps Donna and others remember in greater detail. I found myself groping for facts when I interviewed Jon Provost on my show this week. He, you may recall, was "Timmy" on the LASSIE show for 7 years. You can hear (streaming 24/7) at: www.VintageRadioPlace.com/broadcast now thru Saturday. Tom Heathwood 4/2 From kvahey@comcast.net Wed Apr 2 10:28:04 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:28:04 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> Message-ID: <4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com> We knew that a month ago.... In Chicago CBS cancelled Sports Final and I wonder if the same will happen at 4 I sense we will hear Lobel a lot on radio in short order. On 4/2/08, Tony Abruzzese wrote: > On 4/2/08 7:40 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > The Herald says Lobel and Kulhawik are gone > > > > > It's interesting that no one seems to be adding Sara Underwood to the > list, since her contract was not renewed last month. > > -- > Tony Abruzzese > BUSM Dept of Biochemistry > > > From billohno@gmail.com Wed Apr 2 10:38:24 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:38:24 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200804021438.m32EcOhP028873@mail168c2.megamailservers.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: > I sense we will hear Lobel a lot on radio in short order. Ah, yes, radio. Always there after the TV door swings against one's backside after contract sunset. Here's to those radio pros who have plugged along as loyal minions of the craft! Bill O'Neill From revdoug1@verizon.net Wed Apr 2 10:43:54 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:43:54 -0400 Subject: is broadcasting broken beyond repair? References: <4fc429770804020625q25c3d157i1bf390dd3b5933db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <052601c894cf$fa335b70$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Kevin, I think everything you're saying is right on target: Not long ago in this forum, I voiced an observation that I wondered how broadcasting schools will fare in the long run, given that there are very few openings in broadcasting nowadays. The whole face of the industry has changed. I suspect the situation is much the same for journalism majors. . . . And yet, I would offer a prediction: it will be the small-town stations and the small-town newspapers that will survive the longest. They fulfill the unique role of providing local news, sports and weather coverage that aren't covered --- or adequately covered --- by other media. It's worthy of note that the number of weekly newspapers in Maine has grown in recent years, while the Blethens are selling their three Maine dailies because they're bleeding money. The Bangor Daily News has also suffered layoffs in recent years, but remains relatively strong because it serves such an enormous rural area. As for radio in metro areas, I stand by an earlier contention I made some time ago: part of the problem, though by no means all, is that there are simply too many radio stations. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: is broadcasting broken beyond repair? > The cuts at 1170 SFR are devastating to both the staff and what > remaining viewers the station has. > > I still watched 4 in most part because of Lobel and Jack Williams. > Lobel may have gone downhill the past few years and had far less air > time but if something broke he was still the best source in the city. > Joyce opened the arts to all and will be missed as well. It's funny 20 > years ago I was dating a woman who didn't own a TV and she screamed > when she saw Joyce on TV because she was her english teacher at > Brookline High a decade before. Joyce was local. > > Still the TV financial model is broken. There is something wrong when > NESN brings in more revenue through cable fees than the VHF's can > generate through ads. > > what is happening at WBZ is no different than what we are seeing at > the Globe and with radio. > > Back in 1981 Chuck Scarboro who years ago was an anchor at channel 7 > wrote a novel and the premise was that MIT had developed a computer > program to make the perfect virtual anchorman. It seemed laughable at > the time but now I see a day when we will get our news from avatars > instead of humans. Same will apply to radio.....who needs humans. From abruzzese@biochem.bumc.bu.edu Wed Apr 2 10:21:03 2008 From: abruzzese@biochem.bumc.bu.edu (Tony Abruzzese) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:21:03 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> On 4/2/08 7:40 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The Herald says Lobel and Kulhawik are gone > > It's interesting that no one seems to be adding Sara Underwood to the list, since her contract was not renewed last month. -- Tony Abruzzese BUSM Dept of Biochemistry From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed Apr 2 10:57:16 2008 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 07:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 Message-ID: <685482.92088.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> This may give more fuel to the fire about the possibility of CBS flipping WBCN to sports talk. One of the hinderences was available talent. Lobel is available and he's a known personality, which is needed if they want to make a run at WEEI. ----- Original Message ---- From: Kevin Vahey To: Tony Abruzzese Cc: (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 10:28:04 AM Subject: Re: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 We knew that a month ago.... In Chicago CBS cancelled Sports Final and I wonder if the same will happen at 4 I sense we will hear Lobel a lot on radio in short order. On 4/2/08, Tony Abruzzese wrote: > On 4/2/08 7:40 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > The Herald says Lobel and Kulhawik are gone > > > > > It's interesting that no one seems to be adding Sara Underwood to the > list, since her contract was not renewed last month. > > -- > Tony Abruzzese > BUSM Dept of Biochemistry > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From billohno@gmail.com Wed Apr 2 11:02:24 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:02:24 -0400 Subject: is broadcasting broken beyond repair? In-Reply-To: <052601c894cf$fa335b70$6401a8c0@DougDrown> References: <4fc429770804020625q25c3d157i1bf390dd3b5933db@mail.gmail.com> <052601c894cf$fa335b70$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <200804021502.m32F2RqP006974@mail176c2.megamailservers.com> Doug Drown wrote: > . . . And yet, I would offer a prediction: it will be the small-town > stations and the small-town newspapers that will survive the longest. > They fulfill the unique role of providing local news, sports and > weather coverage that aren't covered --- or adequately covered --- by > other media. Local newspapers here in western Vermont (as well as throughout the state) get a lot of eyeballs, relatively speaking. Most are published once or twice weekly; as such, no one expects the paper to do what their websites can do. They are read by those who want opinion, viewpoints, reader contributions on subjects. They tend to work, out of pure necessity, in tandem with other media. What they can't do, however, is pay. While idyllic New England communities embrace their local papers, replete with school lunches and court logs, they struggle to meet the ad buys necessary to enlist the expertise of real news diggers -- the ones local hacks and solons should hold in esteem. Instead, they get a pass. Bill O'Neill From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed Apr 2 11:05:04 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:05:04 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <685482.92088.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <685482.92088.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47F3A0A0.2080507@ttlc.net> Maureen Carney wrote: > This may give more fuel to the fire about the possibility of CBS flipping WBCN to sports talk. One of the hinderences was available talent. Lobel is available and he's a known personality, which is needed if they want to make a run at WEEI But will Lobel be willing to accept the lower salary commensurate with audio-only performance? From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed Apr 2 11:12:28 2008 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 08:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 Message-ID: <188609.5707.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Sometimes it's not a matter of money (although it usually is) - some people just need to stay on the air in any capacity possible for ego reasons. When I was working at WSRO in the late 90s and management flipped it to talk we got many, many tapes from once promenent Boston TV personalities who knew they weren't going to get the big bucks if they got the gig. ----- Original Message ---- From: Roger Kirk To: Maureen Carney Cc: Boston Radio Group Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 11:05:04 AM Subject: Re: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 Maureen Carney wrote: > This may give more fuel to the fire about the possibility of CBS flipping WBCN to sports talk. One of the hinderences was available talent. Lobel is available and he's a known personality, which is needed if they want to make a run at WEEI But will Lobel be willing to accept the lower salary commensurate with audio-only performance? ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From kvahey@comcast.net Wed Apr 2 11:20:07 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:20:07 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <685482.92088.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <685482.92088.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770804020820l4e8d4f6kb0f61cf853490f0d@mail.gmail.com> CBS does own the radio rights to the Pats and Bruins so it would make more sense than Greater Media trying it. The wild card is Mr Ordway. He was not a happy camper when he found out how much Howie Carr was getting paid when you consider how much revenue Ordway generates. But Ordway is stuck unless another station comes along. Also unknown is how much longer WAMG can limp along. On 4/2/08, Maureen Carney wrote: > This may give more fuel to the fire about the possibility of CBS flipping > WBCN to sports talk. One of the hinderences was available talent. Lobel is > available and he's a known personality, which is needed if they want to make > a run at WEEI. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Kevin Vahey > To: Tony Abruzzese > Cc: (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest > > Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 10:28:04 AM > Subject: Re: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 > > We knew that a month ago.... > > In Chicago CBS cancelled Sports Final and I wonder if the same will happen > at 4 > > I sense we will hear Lobel a lot on radio in short order. > > On 4/2/08, Tony Abruzzese wrote: > > On 4/2/08 7:40 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > > The Herald says Lobel and Kulhawik are gone > > > > > > > > It's interesting that no one seems to be adding Sara Underwood to the > > list, since her contract was not renewed last month. > > > > -- > > Tony Abruzzese > > BUSM Dept of Biochemistry > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com > From kvahey@comcast.net Wed Apr 2 11:30:32 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:30:32 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <054701c894d4$1b0e51c0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <054701c894d4$1b0e51c0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <4fc429770804020830w2e803a27iee1cc81f1016b6a1@mail.gmail.com> In the case of Community Auditions the producers are footing the bill not the station. They may just be buying the time slot. Channel 7 changes the rules in this market. They pay as little as possible for talent and won't budge. What options does Randy Price have anymore? Who in their right mind would enter this business now? From HeritageRadio@msn.com Wed Apr 2 12:09:35 2008 From: HeritageRadio@msn.com (thomas heathwood) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:09:35 -0400 Subject: EarlyWHDHfolk References: Message-ID: Thanks to Dan for the additional memories of early morning radio of the 40's/50's. On The BOB & RAY Show, the original organ and piano duo was Ken Wilson and Bill Green. They did do a local lounge act as "The Park Squares" indicating the general location of the nightclub. Ken & Bill also had their own daily music show on WHDH. When Bob & Ray moved on to NBC in 1951, Ken & Bill were not invited to join them, so continued on at WHDH for sometime afterwards. They were very skilled musicians and could play just about any genre of music imaginable. In addition, they provided the musical backdrops and "sound effects" for all the Bob & Ray skits on the MATINEE With Bob & Ray Show. What talent we had in those days in Boston! Many years later, I was fortunate to find dozens and dozens of old 16" transcriptions of the MATINEE WITH BOB & RAY SHOW that had been stored in a huge green metal vault in the basement of the old WHDH AM transmiitter in Needham. I also recovered JFK news "actualities" and radio briefs of the first era of space travel, which had sat in their dusty "grave" for many a year! Some ET's of other early WHDH program features I also found. I got permissioin from Bob & Ray, and meticulously re-recorded all the available programs from the old disintegrating transcriptions to 1/4 inch dull track dubs on an AMPEX 601. All of these recordings are still intact, although others have copied the disks for commercial purposes. Copies of the JFK material were given to the JFK Library and are displayed/available there. Tom Heathwood 4/2 From revdoug1@verizon.net Wed Apr 2 11:13:27 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:13:27 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> Message-ID: <054701c894d4$1b0e51c0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Y'know, I'm reading all this about the layoffs and buyouts while contemplating the fact that Channel 4 is about to resurrect Community Auditions. Juxtaposing the two, should we assume that the station is anticipating better ad revenue from this than it has been getting from the news? I think if I were Bob, Joyce, Scott or Sara, I would probably feel just a wee cynical at this point, but then again, maybe it's just the reality of the business . . . -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Abruzzese" To: "Kevin Vahey" Cc: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:21 AM Subject: Re: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 > On 4/2/08 7:40 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> The Herald says Lobel and Kulhawik are gone >> >> > It's interesting that no one seems to be adding Sara Underwood to the > list, since her contract was not renewed last month. > > -- > Tony Abruzzese > BUSM Dept of Biochemistry > > From sonnydaye1@gmail.com Wed Apr 2 12:39:52 2008 From: sonnydaye1@gmail.com (Sonny Daye) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:39:52 -0400 Subject: Gene Jones/Ray Dory/Jess Cain/Park Squares Message-ID: I can fill in a few facts here. I believe Gene Jones also played saxophone. Before Jess joined Ray Dory, there was the Pat & Ray Show. Pat (vocalist) is a friend of mine. She's retired and living in Florida. <<>> There was a duo for many years on 'HDH. Ken Wilson (organ) and Bill Greene (piano). Their (15 minute?) taped segments were heard in the evening around dinnertime. Bill passed away a few years ago. <<>> The only surviving member of the Park Squares is guitarist Don Alessi. GREAT musician, still playing. I worked with him not too long ago. Those were the days of LIVE MUSIC on the radio and TV! Broadcasters weren't allowed to play records. When the musician's union lost that battle, it changed the face of the music business forever (and lined the pockets of the station owners). ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "thomas heathwood" , < boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:52:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Gene Jones By the time I arrived in Boston (summer of '56), I'm pretty sure that Tom Russell had taken over the MC duties on the WEEI (590) AM-drive show. Carl Moore and the live music were still on with him, though (just as Jess Cain on rival WHDH (850) co-hosted for the better part of a year with the previous morning host, Ray Dory; their show was called Dory and Cain). I believe that in that era, Moore also had his own show (also with live music) on WEEI (maybe in the noon to 1:00PM hour). I think maybe the live music ended first on WEEI and continued for several more years on WHDH. Wasn't there a musician by the name of Ken Greene (pianist, organist) on WHDH? Did he have a group called the Park Squares? Seems to me that he might have had a program in the 6:00PM hour. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Wed Apr 2 12:14:22 2008 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:14:22 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu><4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com> <200804021438.m32EcOhP028873@mail168c2.megamailservers.com> Message-ID: <004101c894dc$9de9cb80$0201a8c0@Family> this me (here) drinking to that (urp!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Kevin Vahey" Cc: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 > Kevin Vahey wrote: >> I sense we will hear Lobel a lot on radio in short order. > Ah, yes, radio. Always there after the TV door swings against one's > backside after contract sunset. Here's to those radio pros who have > plugged along as loyal minions of the craft! > > Bill O'Neill From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Wed Apr 2 13:06:41 2008 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:06:41 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com><47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <054701c894d4$1b0e51c0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <001501c894e3$ece4be00$0201a8c0@Family> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" > Y'know, I'm reading all this about the layoffs and buyouts while > contemplating the fact that Channel 4 is about to resurrect Community > Auditions. (snip) Maybe the new Community Auditions will find younger or more affordable News, Sports and Entertainment hosts? - -Chuck Igo From revdoug1@verizon.net Wed Apr 2 13:21:50 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:21:50 -0400 Subject: Gene Jones/Ray Dory/Jess Cain/Park Squares References: Message-ID: <057901c894e6$0a1a8c00$6401a8c0@DougDrown> >Broadcasters weren't allowed to play records. When the musician's union lost that battle, it changed the face of the music business forever (and lined the pockets of the station owners). This must have been right around the time of the advent of rock 'n' roll. I'm 56 and can't remember any radio station that played live music of any kind, anywhere, except on very sporadic special occasions. I started listening to the Top 40 on WBZ and WPTR in 1962, when I was 11. -Doug -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonny Daye" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:39 PM Subject: Gene Jones/Ray Dory/Jess Cain/Park Squares >I can fill in a few facts here. > I believe Gene Jones also played saxophone. > Before Jess joined Ray Dory, there was the Pat & Ray Show. Pat (vocalist) > is > a friend of mine. She's retired and living in Florida. > > << on > WHDH? >>> > > There was a duo for many years on 'HDH. Ken Wilson (organ) and Bill Greene > (piano). Their (15 minute?) taped segments were heard in the evening > around > dinnertime. Bill passed away a few years ago. > > <<>> > > The only surviving member of the Park Squares is guitarist Don Alessi. > GREAT > musician, still playing. I worked with him not too long ago. > Those were the days of LIVE MUSIC on the radio and TV! Broadcasters > weren't > allowed to play records. When the musician's union lost that battle, it > changed the face of the music business forever (and lined the pockets of > the > station owners). > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Dan.Strassberg" > To: "thomas heathwood" , < > boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org> > Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:52:41 -0400 > Subject: Re: Gene Jones > By the time I arrived in Boston (summer of '56), I'm pretty sure that > Tom Russell had taken over the MC duties on the WEEI (590) AM-drive > show. Carl Moore and the live music were still on with him, though > (just as Jess Cain on rival WHDH (850) co-hosted for the better part > of a year with the previous morning host, Ray Dory; their show was > called Dory and Cain). I believe that in that era, Moore also had his > own show (also with live music) on WEEI (maybe in the noon to 1:00PM > hour). I think maybe the live music ended first on WEEI and continued > for several more years on WHDH. Wasn't there a musician by the name of > Ken Greene (pianist, organist) on WHDH? Did he have a group called the > Park Squares? Seems to me that he might have had a program in the > 6:00PM hour. From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed Apr 2 13:31:32 2008 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 Message-ID: <774562.14695.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I've noticed that BZ has been trying to make the morning news more competitve with Fox 25 lately. It's not just dispatching Scott Wahle to 9p on TV 38 or Barry Burbank back to weekends but the annoying use of David Robichaud and his commentaries, having a comedian on-set during Super Bowl week and not having reporters out in the field as much at that hour. It's become an unwachable train wreck. ----- Original Message ---- From: Chuck Igo To: Doug Drown ; Tony Abruzzese ; Kevin Vahey Cc: (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 1:06:41 PM Subject: Re: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" > Y'know, I'm reading all this about the layoffs and buyouts while > contemplating the fact that Channel 4 is about to resurrect Community > Auditions. (snip) Maybe the new Community Auditions will find younger or more affordable News, Sports and Entertainment hosts? - -Chuck Igo ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From kvahey@comcast.net Wed Apr 2 13:30:20 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:30:20 -0500 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com> <200804021438.m32EcOhP028873@mail168c2.megamailservers.com> <004101c894dc$9de9cb80$0201a8c0@Family> Message-ID: <4fc429770804021030p2c22f9d9kaa8081e450c480e5@mail.gmail.com> Ted Nation would be a good choice at night to counter Adams with...... Sean McDonough might want another crack as well I was told by somebody who works at EEI that Ordway started screaming at Jason in public when the info on Howie was leaked. Glenn had been led to believe he was thye highest paid performer in the entire Entercom chain. Get the popcorn out as this will be fun to watch On 4/2/08, David Tomm wrote: > The big prize is Glenn Ordway. He is set to make an obscene amount of money > when his contract expires later this year. Unless Entercom is really > stupid, they better be prepared to pay him much more than they're paying > Howie Carr, because someone out there will. I find it interesting that in > recent months, WEEI has locked down much of their talent to multi-year > deals. D&C, Michael Holley, Dale Arnold and Pete Sheppard all have new > contracts. Plus, they are rapidly trying to add affiliates for their > "sportsradio network" to increase their regional profile. Do they think > Ordway will stay if they can spread the WEEI brand throughout New England? > > If Entercom decides to play hardball with Ordway, I could easily see WBCN > making the flip. If they were to bring in the Big O, you could see a lineup > of O&A, followed by Lobel (paired up with someone), another local show, > Ordway in PM drive and a local show at night. From nostaticatall@charter.net Wed Apr 2 13:22:03 2008 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:22:03 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <004101c894dc$9de9cb80$0201a8c0@Family> References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu><4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com> <200804021438.m32EcOhP028873@mail168c2.megamailservers.com> <004101c894dc$9de9cb80$0201a8c0@Family> Message-ID: If there is anytime for an FM sports talker to emerge, it's this year. Lobel is just one of many people who are in flux right now. The Globe and Herald are trimming staff as well, and even existing sportswriters at both papers have media gigs on the side. There is plenty of local talent out there. With the Score in Providence flipping formats last month, there are even behind the scenes people available. The big prize is Glenn Ordway. He is set to make an obscene amount of money when his contract expires later this year. Unless Entercom is really stupid, they better be prepared to pay him much more than they're paying Howie Carr, because someone out there will. I find it interesting that in recent months, WEEI has locked down much of their talent to multi-year deals. D&C, Michael Holley, Dale Arnold and Pete Sheppard all have new contracts. Plus, they are rapidly trying to add affiliates for their "sportsradio network" to increase their regional profile. Do they think Ordway will stay if they can spread the WEEI brand throughout New England? If Entercom decides to play hardball with Ordway, I could easily see WBCN making the flip. If they were to bring in the Big O, you could see a lineup of O&A, followed by Lobel (paired up with someone), another local show, Ordway in PM drive and a local show at night. They already have the Pats, and the Bruins can come over from WBZ. When/If WAMG finally flames out, they could bring in the ESPN affiliation for overnights and fringe weekend hours, and maybe put Mike Felger on early afternoons or nights. A formidable competitor to WEEI on FM could be put together in short order. This may not be the greatest time for CBS/Boston to be investing sizable capital into content, but the payoff could be huge in the long run. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Apr 2, 2008, at 12:14 PM, Chuck Igo wrote: > this me (here) drinking to that (urp!) > >> Kevin Vahey wrote: >>> I sense we will hear Lobel a lot on radio in short order. >> Ah, yes, radio. Always there after the TV door swings against >> one's backside after contract sunset. Here's to those radio pros >> who have plugged along as loyal minions of the craft! >> From nostaticatall@charter.net Wed Apr 2 13:36:19 2008 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:36:19 -0400 Subject: is broadcasting broken beyond repair? In-Reply-To: <4fc429770804020625q25c3d157i1bf390dd3b5933db@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770804020625q25c3d157i1bf390dd3b5933db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00CC1545-C4AA-4EB3-B3A2-B6D91CB8C761@charter.net> But right now sports talk is one of the few radio formats that are thriving. While The Globe, Herald and TV stations are laying people off, radio and cable are hiring. WAMG is doing nothing, but for the most part it's not local and the signal stinks. WWZN is nothing but a car wreck that everyone slows down to see but is soon in the rear view mirror. Just as WTKK changed the talk landscape in this market nearly a decade ago, a sports talk station on FM based around local personalities could make an impact right away, and it would attract demos that are easily saleable. It would be content that you can't find on satellite and would be hyper local. As the Lenox Financial guy says, "it's the biggest no-brainer in the history of earth." -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The cuts at 1170 SFR are devastating to both the staff and what > remaining viewers the station has. > > I still watched 4 in most part because of Lobel and Jack Williams. > Lobel may have gone downhill the past few years and had far less air > time but if something broke he was still the best source in the city. > Joyce opened the arts to all and will be missed as well. It's funny 20 > years ago I was dating a woman who didn't own a TV and she screamed > when she saw Joyce on TV because she was her english teacher at > Brookline High a decade before. Joyce was local. > > Still the TV financial model is broken. There is something wrong when > NESN brings in more revenue through cable fees than the VHF's can > generate through ads. > > what is happening at WBZ is no different than what we are seeing at > the Globe and with radio. > > Back in 1981 Chuck Scarboro who years ago was an anchor at channel 7 > wrote a novel and the premise was that MIT had developed a computer > program to make the perfect virtual anchorman. It seemed laughable at > the time but now I see a day when we will get our news from avatars > instead of humans. Same will apply to radio.....who needs humans. From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Apr 2 14:18:54 2008 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:18:54 -0400 Subject: Live Music (was:RE: Gene Jones/Ray Dory/Jess Cain/Park Squares) In-Reply-To: <057901c894e6$0a1a8c00$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <200804021819.m32IJW3I003454@mac.com> -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Doug Drown Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:22 PM To: Sonny Daye; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Gene Jones/Ray Dory/Jess Cain/Park Squares This must have been right around the time of the advent of rock 'n' roll. I'm 56 and can't remember any radio station that played live music of any kind, anywhere, except on very sporadic special occasions. I started listening to the Top 40 on WBZ and WPTR in 1962, when I was 11. -Doug I'm 58 and I remember live bands on the morning shows in New York. I believe the band on the Jack Sterling Show on WCBS was led by Tyree Glenn. From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed Apr 2 14:36:31 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:36:31 -0400 Subject: Gene Jones/Ray Dory/Jess Cain/Park Squares In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006a01c894f0$7d4a91c0$6400a8c0@lysthia> > << (pianist, organist) on WHDH? >>> > > There was a duo for many years on 'HDH. Ken Wilson (organ) > and Bill Greene (piano). Their (15 minute?) taped segments > were heard in the evening around dinnertime. Bill passed away > a few years ago. > I had the opportunity to work with Ken Wilson many years ago (1970's) when I was on staff at Hammond Castle up in Gloucester. Ken was a regular on our concert calender and very popular with the blue hairs of the time. I remember him to be quite the gentleman and very tolerant of the 17 year old staff tech person (me). He actually recorded a number of albums. I think that I might still have one on vinyl somewhere. Brian Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 Office: (978)538-7575 Fax: (978)538-7550 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.4/1355 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:37 PM From revdoug1@verizon.net Wed Apr 2 14:47:12 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:47:12 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 References: <774562.14695.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <059301c894f1$f7496270$6401a8c0@DougDrown> I wonder whether, in the light of the layoffs, the 9 PM Channel 38 newscasts will continue. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Carney" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 > I've noticed that BZ has been trying to make the morning news more > competitve with Fox 25 lately. It's not just dispatching Scott Wahle to 9p > on TV 38 or Barry Burbank back to weekends but the annoying use of David > Robichaud and his commentaries, having a comedian on-set during Super Bowl > week and not having reporters out in the field as much at that hour. It's > become an unwachable train wreck. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Chuck Igo > To: Doug Drown ; Tony Abruzzese > ; Kevin Vahey > Cc: (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest > > Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 1:06:41 PM > Subject: Re: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Drown" > > >> Y'know, I'm reading all this about the layoffs and buyouts while >> contemplating the fact that Channel 4 is about to resurrect Community >> Auditions. (snip) > > Maybe the new Community Auditions will find younger or more affordable > News, > Sports and Entertainment hosts? > > - -Chuck Igo > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed Apr 2 14:53:04 2008 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 Message-ID: <594917.82656.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Add Jackie MacMullen to that list - she's leaving the Globe soon. I'm not sure if she's interested, but now she doesn't have restrictions on where she can appear (such as WEEI or Comcast SportsNet) ----- Original Message ---- From: David Tomm To: Chuck Igo Cc: Bill O'Neill ; (newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 1:22:03 PM Subject: Re: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 If there is anytime for an FM sports talker to emerge, it's this year. Lobel is just one of many people who are in flux right now. The Globe and Herald are trimming staff as well, and even existing sportswriters at both papers have media gigs on the side. There is plenty of local talent out there. With the Score in Providence flipping formats last month, there are even behind the scenes people available. The big prize is Glenn Ordway. He is set to make an obscene amount of money when his contract expires later this year. Unless Entercom is really stupid, they better be prepared to pay him much more than they're paying Howie Carr, because someone out there will. I find it interesting that in recent months, WEEI has locked down much of their talent to multi-year deals. D&C, Michael Holley, Dale Arnold and Pete Sheppard all have new contracts. Plus, they are rapidly trying to add affiliates for their "sportsradio network" to increase their regional profile. Do they think Ordway will stay if they can spread the WEEI brand throughout New England? If Entercom decides to play hardball with Ordway, I could easily see WBCN making the flip. If they were to bring in the Big O, you could see a lineup of O&A, followed by Lobel (paired up with someone), another local show, Ordway in PM drive and a local show at night. They already have the Pats, and the Bruins can come over from WBZ. When/If WAMG finally flames out, they could bring in the ESPN affiliation for overnights and fringe weekend hours, and maybe put Mike Felger on early afternoons or nights. A formidable competitor to WEEI on FM could be put together in short order. This may not be the greatest time for CBS/Boston to be investing sizable capital into content, but the payoff could be huge in the long run. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Apr 2, 2008, at 12:14 PM, Chuck Igo wrote: > this me (here) drinking to that (urp!) > >> Kevin Vahey wrote: >>> I sense we will hear Lobel a lot on radio in short order. >> Ah, yes, radio. Always there after the TV door swings against >> one's backside after contract sunset. Here's to those radio pros >> who have plugged along as loyal minions of the craft! >> ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From rbello@belloassoc.com Thu Apr 3 16:39:55 2008 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:39:55 -0700 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.co m> References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080403133656.037ff9d8@belloassoc.com> At 07:28 AM 4/2/2008, Kevin Vahey wrote: >We knew that a month ago.... > >In Chicago CBS cancelled Sports Final and I wonder if the same will >happen at 4 > >I sense we will hear Lobel a lot on radio in short order. Radio is where Lobel started at WBZ on Calling All Sports From revdoug1@verizon.net Wed Apr 2 15:41:46 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:41:46 -0400 Subject: WBZ, the Globe, and FCC decisions re: media cross-ownership Message-ID: <05b001c894f9$9690d1e0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Where is the FCC at present with regard to its rethinking of the regulations concerning media cross-ownership? With major newspapers and broadcasting stations all struggling financially, it would seem to me that this might be an apt time to ask whether relaxation of the rules might help the different media to boost one another up. -Doug From songbook2@comcast.net Wed Apr 2 16:39:59 2008 From: songbook2@comcast.net (Russ Butler) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:39:59 -0700 Subject: Carl Moore WEEI Message-ID: <47F3EF1F.6030708@comcast.net> He had his "Beantown Varieties" show on WEEI 590AM, a live one hour music show with vocalist Gloria Carroll and the orchestra (it may also have been Don Alessi's quintet as well as being on WHDH? Sounds right to me in those days!). In the late-1940's, Carl had the morning show from 8 to 9 a.m. with Tom Russell doing news, etc. I sat in on a couple of broadcasts in the studio on Tremont Street in the E-E-I, Edison Electrical Illuminating building (now the WERS broadcast center, I think) My Mom was a telephone-receptionist at WEEI then so I had studio access, and that was a big deal for a teenager to see a live radio show, just like when we went to NYC and visited NBC and others for live radio-tv broadcasts.. There's an LP of Carl's Irish and other little "ditties" he'd play on the piano and sing (? well he didn't have a great voice but put the song over) and some duet tracks with Gloria Carroll. Tom Heathwood may know of that LP (Tom Heathwood may know where that 12" LP is). Ah, the memories linger on! =Russ Butler songbook2@comcast.net PS// Does everyone know that Don Alessi has a talented son, Jack Alessi? *JACK *ALESSI** Originally from the *Boston* area, Jack began his musical career as a drummer in the early sixties working with his father, guitarist, *Don* *Alessi*. During the late sixties and early seventies Jack landed the coveted spot of M.C. at the Famous Monticello Night Club in Framingham, MA. Jack has performed with and opened for Tony Bennett, Vicki Carr, Jerry Lewis, Louis Armstrong, Jimmy Durante, The Mills Brothers and many others. He has been the featured vocalist and toured with such big bands as Tommy Dorsey, Glen Miller, and Stan Kenton. It was Jack Alessi's concept of the "3 Swinging Tenors" that brought this trio together. From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Apr 2 16:39:44 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:39:44 -0400 Subject: WBZ, the Globe, and FCC decisions re: media cross-ownership In-Reply-To: <05b001c894f9$9690d1e0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> References: <05b001c894f9$9690d1e0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <18419.61200.796271.381017@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Where is the FCC at present with regard to its rethinking of the > regulations concerning media cross-ownership? With major newspapers > and broadcasting stations all struggling financially, it would seem > to me that this might be an apt time to ask whether relaxation of > the rules might help the different media to boost one another up. I, frankly, am amazed that anyone in Washington still thinks the newspaper cross-ownership rule is constitutional. If someone had sufficient incentive and resources to fight, it would likely be a slam-dunk with the current Supreme Court. -GAWollman From kvahey@comcast.net Wed Apr 2 16:54:50 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:54:50 -0400 Subject: WBZ, the Globe, and FCC decisions re: media cross-ownership In-Reply-To: <18419.61200.796271.381017@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <05b001c894f9$9690d1e0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> <18419.61200.796271.381017@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4fc429770804021354i72fdc83i3367aa15f54f6f81@mail.gmail.com> Can we all say Rupert Murdoch? Just the wavier system in place show the sham of the law as written. Murdoch can get a wavier in New York but not Boston because of Ted Kennedy. Howie made Ted Kennedy angry and Murdoch was forced to sell the Herald. On 4/2/08, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < > said: > > > Where is the FCC at present with regard to its rethinking of the > > regulations concerning media cross-ownership? With major newspapers > > and broadcasting stations all struggling financially, it would seem > > to me that this might be an apt time to ask whether relaxation of > > the rules might help the different media to boost one another up. > > I, frankly, am amazed that anyone in Washington still thinks the > newspaper cross-ownership rule is constitutional. If someone had > sufficient incentive and resources to fight, it would likely be a > slam-dunk with the current Supreme Court. > > -GAWollman > From songbook2@comcast.net Wed Apr 2 17:10:24 2008 From: songbook2@comcast.net (Russ Butler) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:10:24 -0700 Subject: Carl Moore Message-ID: <47F3F640.5070908@comcast.net> Well, I remember now = = the title of Carl Moore's LP is "Carl Moore Remembers" with a blue and white graphic on the cover. He recorded many of his WEEI favorite "ditties" (where did that word come from?). Not that anyone is interested in what Carl Moore recorded now, but I thought I'd contribute it anyway to the list. BTW, there is a bobble-head doll of Carl Moore out there somewhere - a doll manufacturer somewhere in New England makes collectible dolls like this and has made dolls of other Boston radio celebrities. Donna? From billohno@gmail.com Wed Apr 2 17:09:56 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:09:56 -0400 Subject: WBZ, the Globe, and FCC decisions re: media cross-ownership In-Reply-To: <4fc429770804021354i72fdc83i3367aa15f54f6f81@mail.gmail.com> References: <05b001c894f9$9690d1e0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> <18419.61200.796271.381017@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4fc429770804021354i72fdc83i3367aa15f54f6f81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200804022109.m32L9uWT022316@mail175c2.megamailservers.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: > Can we all say Rupert Murdoch? > > Just the wavier system in place show the sham of the law as written. > Murdoch can get a wavier in New York but not Boston because of Ted > Kennedy. Howie made Ted Kennedy angry and Murdoch was forced to sell > the Herald. There is a great piece of archived audio on this very topic. It's Jerry Williams on the phone with Ted Kennedy. You can get to it at www.jerrywilliams.org. It's under WRKO in 1990. Runs about 13 minutes. Worth a listen for a variety of reasons. Bill O'Neill From billohno@gmail.com Wed Apr 2 17:13:46 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:13:46 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: Re: WBZ, the Globe, and FCC decisions re: media cross-ownership] Message-ID: <200804022113.m32LDk5T032210@mail175c2.megamailservers.com> Here's the link - http://www.jerrywilliams.org/audio/WRKO/wrko12.m3u -- There is a great piece of archived audio on this very topic. It's Jerry Williams on the phone with Ted Kennedy. You can get to it at www.jerrywilliams.org. It's under WRKO in 1990. Runs about 13 minutes. Worth a listen for a variety of reasons. Bill O'Neill -- I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio. /Rodney Dangerfield/ From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Apr 2 19:52:07 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:52:07 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080403133656.037ff9d8@belloassoc.com> References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com><47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu><4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080403133656.037ff9d8@belloassoc.com> Message-ID: <39C9223630D340319DF6DD81A0AB874E@DanBillingsPC> Anyone know what Lobel was making? Did he price himself out of a job? From rickkelly@gmail.com Wed Apr 2 20:10:11 2008 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:10:11 -0400 Subject: EarlyWHDHfolk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <521b7fd10804021710s1f8f0af3nc2509cd39c97956d@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:09 PM, thomas heathwood wrote: >> I was fortunate to find dozens and dozens of old 16" transcriptions of the MATINEE WITH BOB & RAY SHOW that had been stored in a huge green metal vault in the basement of the old WHDH AM transmiitter in Needham.<< There's a ton of recorded old Bob and Ray, including many WHDH shows from the 1940's on archive.org. The link is: http://www.archive.org/details/otr_bobandray Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From radiotony@comcast.net Wed Apr 2 21:17:57 2008 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 21:17:57 -0400 Subject: WBZ, the Globe, and FCC decisions re: media cross-ownership In-Reply-To: <05b001c894f9$9690d1e0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> References: <05b001c894f9$9690d1e0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <005d01c89528$8e130220$aa390660$@net> I wonder if it isn't time to rescind the Telecom Bill of 1996 and break up the corporate ownership of radio and TV licenses. Unlike newspapers, magazines, and Web sites, you just can't start a radio and TV station to compete with the ones on the air now. Best, Tony Schinella Politizine.com: Random musings about politics, music, the media and modern times. Since 2002. OurConcord.com: News and analysis for and about Concord, N.H. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Doug Drown Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:42 PM To: Boston Radio Interest Board Subject: WBZ, the Globe, and FCC decisions re: media cross-ownership Where is the FCC at present with regard to its rethinking of the regulations concerning media cross-ownership? With major newspapers and broadcasting stations all struggling financially, it would seem to me that this might be an apt time to ask whether relaxation of the rules might help the different media to boost one another up. -Doug From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Wed Apr 2 21:45:54 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <47F3A0A0.2080507@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <809114.47776.qm@web55311.mail.re4.yahoo.com> > But will Lobel be willing to accept the lower salary > commensurate with > audio-only performance? I've heard that some of the salaries at WEEI exceed some local TV people. ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From wollman@bimajority.org Wed Apr 2 22:23:35 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 22:23:35 -0400 Subject: WBZ, the Globe, and FCC decisions re: media cross-ownership In-Reply-To: <4fc429770804021354i72fdc83i3367aa15f54f6f81@mail.gmail.com> References: <05b001c894f9$9690d1e0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> <18419.61200.796271.381017@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4fc429770804021354i72fdc83i3367aa15f54f6f81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18420.16295.224880.699225@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Can we all say Rupert Murdoch? Yes, we can, but Mr. Murdoch doesn't have any input into the constitutionality of the cross-ownership ban. -GAWollman From kvahey@comcast.net Wed Apr 2 13:37:42 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:37:42 -0500 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <774562.14695.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <774562.14695.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770804021037s6b64227aja5b81ef7b7d4212f@mail.gmail.com> I will say this much about 25 in the morning....they appear to have good chemistry on the set Of course keeping VB in his own cage downtown helps On 4/2/08, Maureen Carney wrote: > I've noticed that BZ has been trying to make the morning news more competitve with Fox 25 lately. It's not just dispatching Scott Wahle to 9p on TV 38 or Barry Burbank back to weekends but the annoying use of David Robichaud and his commentaries, having a comedian on-set during Super Bowl week and not having reporters out in the field as much at that hour. It's become an unwachable train wreck. > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Apr 3 00:17:46 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:17:46 -0400 Subject: is broadcasting broken beyond repair? In-Reply-To: <4fc429770804020625q25c3d157i1bf390dd3b5933db@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770804020625q25c3d157i1bf390dd3b5933db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F4222A.30333.380D3E@joe.attorneyross.com> On 2 Apr 2008 at 9:25, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Still the TV financial model is broken. There is something wrong when > NESN brings in more revenue through cable fees than the VHF's can > generate through ads. Well, let's not forget, we're in a recession. Whatever the financial model, billings are going to be down right now and layoffs happen in a recession. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Apr 3 00:17:47 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:17:47 -0400 Subject: Gene Jones/Ray Dory/Jess Cain/Park Squares In-Reply-To: <057901c894e6$0a1a8c00$6401a8c0@DougDrown> References: , <057901c894e6$0a1a8c00$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <47F4222B.1646.380E57@joe.attorneyross.com> On 2 Apr 2008 at 13:21, Doug Drown wrote: > >Broadcasters weren't > allowed to play records. When the musician's union lost that battle, > it changed the face of the music business forever (and lined the > pockets of the station owners). > > This must have been right around the time of the advent of rock 'n' > roll. I'm 56 and can't remember any radio station that played live > music of any kind, anywhere, except on very sporadic special > occasions. I started listening to the Top 40 on WBZ and WPTR in 1962, > when I was 11. -Doug They were playing records on the radio much earlier than that. The Lone Ranger's theme music was all recordings, and so were others I'm sure. DJs existed well before the Rock & Roll era. I remember Bill Hahn playing recorded music in the morning on WNAC when I was in kindergarden or first grade, and Bob Smith, not yet known as Buffalo Bob, was playing records on his morning show on WNBC in 1946. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From hykker@wildblue.net Wed Apr 2 20:16:01 2008 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:16:01 -0400 Subject: is broadcasting broken beyond repair? In-Reply-To: <052601c894cf$fa335b70$6401a8c0@DougDrown> References: <4fc429770804020625q25c3d157i1bf390dd3b5933db@mail.gmail.com> <052601c894cf$fa335b70$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <47f421d4.27025a0a.2468.ffff8f44@mx.google.com> Doug Drown wrote: >. . . And yet, I would offer a prediction: it will be the small-town >stations and the small-town newspapers that will survive the >longest. They fulfill the unique role of providing local news, >sports and weather coverage that aren't covered --- or adequately >covered --- by other media. (some snippage) >As for radio in metro areas, I stand by an earlier contention I made >some time ago: part of the problem, though by no means all, is that >there are simply too many radio stations. Well, there are too many radio stations in most small markets, too. Towns/markets that were able to support one station 25 years ago may have a half-dozen now, even though the population hasn't grown significantly (or has even shrunk). Stations in smaller markets face different problems than those in larger ones. One is advertising base: as the big box stores and chains edge out the "mom & pop" businesses there are fewer potential advertisers. There is also the difficulty of attracting and retaining staff. Long gone are the days when someone would pack up & relocate to Berlin, N.H. or Millinocket, Me. to get their first radio gig. OTOH, there is a greater need for these forms of news & info...much of rural New England is still dependent on dial-up (or satellite) for internet service, and likely will be for quite some time. On-line classified sites like Craigslist haven't quite trickled down to these areas either. Let's hope these stations can remain viable financially. From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Thu Apr 3 09:22:37 2008 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:22:37 +0100 Subject: [B-R-I] One Beacon St Fire: WMFP-62 Off-Air Message-ID: <47F4DA1D.6090702@Gmail.com> One casualty of yesterday's electrical fire at 1 Beacon St. is that WMFP-62 (whose xmtr is on their roof) has been off-air since (on their CATV ComCast Ch.20, it has just been a dead carrier). ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From radiotest@cox.net Thu Apr 3 10:40:27 2008 From: radiotest@cox.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:40:27 -0400 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA In-Reply-To: <521b7fd10803271904i72a6cb9dn18a51d41d4d9745d@mail.gmail.co m> References: <521b7fd10803271904i72a6cb9dn18a51d41d4d9745d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080403104008.03908bc8@cox.net> I've posted a 1024x768 bitmap image of the WBZ towers past and present. On the left are the original WBZ (later WBZA) towers atop the old Westinghouse factory in East Springfield. On the right are the current WBZ towers in Hull. http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Apr 3 11:28:05 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 11:28:05 -0400 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA References: <521b7fd10803271904i72a6cb9dn18a51d41d4d9745d@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080403104008.03908bc8@cox.net> Message-ID: <000f01c8959f$51f8aed0$83eda644@SatU205S5044> WBZ's towers in Hull are 185.5 degrees tall. If my math is correct, that comes out to 492' or almost exactly 500m. I have no idea of the face dimension, but the towers appear to be triangular in cross section and quite slender relative to their height. From the photo, it appears that the towers are guyed at approximately 175' and 350' above ground. That leaves ~140' at the top unguyed. Is that approximately correct? And if so, isn't that a very great length of a slender uniform cross-section tower to be left to support itself--especially given the high wind loads one would expect in the unsheltered seaside location? I was surprised to see only two sets of guys on such tall and slender towers and even more surprised that the higher guy-attachment points are so far from the top. Is there somebody reading this with enough structural-engineering savvy to comment? Thanks. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale H. Cook" To: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: Re: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA > I've posted a 1024x768 bitmap image of the WBZ towers past and > present. On the left are the original WBZ (later WBZA) towers atop > the old Westinghouse factory in East Springfield. On the right are > the current WBZ towers in Hull. > > http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html > > Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, > Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ > http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From sid@wrko.com Thu Apr 3 11:53:19 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 11:53:19 -0400 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA In-Reply-To: <000f01c8959f$51f8aed0$83eda644@SatU205S5044> References: <521b7fd10803271904i72a6cb9dn18a51d41d4d9745d@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080403104008.03908bc8@cox.net> <000f01c8959f$51f8aed0$83eda644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80134C98F@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>WBZ's towers in Hull are 185.5 degrees tall. If my math is correct, that comes out to 492' or almost exactly 500m. I have no idea of the face dimension, but the towers appear to be triangular in cross section and quite slender relative to their height. From the photo, it appears that the towers are guyed at approximately 175' and 350' above ground. That leaves ~140' at the top unguyed. Is that approximately correct? And if so, isn't that a very great length of a slender uniform cross-section tower to be left to support itself--especially given the high wind loads one would expect in the unsheltered seaside location? I was surprised to see only two sets of guys on such tall and slender towers and even more surprised that the higher guy-attachment points are so far from the top. Is there somebody reading this with enough structural-engineering savvy to comment?<< Scott Fybush's shot of the towers is much more detailed. See it here: http://pcswithease.com/WBZ/wbz_transmitter_site.html Five guy levels, with what appears to be only the top 20 feet or so unguyed. The FCC database says they're 188.5 degrees, not 185.5. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 P: 617-779-5369 F: 617-779-5379 E: sid@wrko.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Apr 3 11:57:14 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:57:14 -0400 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA References: <521b7fd10803271904i72a6cb9dn18a51d41d4d9745d@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080403104008.03908bc8@cox.net> Message-ID: <062f01c895a3$62f2b420$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Nice juxtaposition of photos, Dale. Thanks! How tall are the Hull towers, BTW? . . . And does anyone out there have a report about this past Tuesday's hearing regarding the East Springfield development? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale H. Cook" To: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: Re: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA > I've posted a 1024x768 bitmap image of the WBZ towers past and present. On > the left are the original WBZ (later WBZA) towers atop the old > Westinghouse factory in East Springfield. On the right are the current WBZ > towers in Hull. > > http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html > > Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, > VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ > http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From radiotest@cox.net Thu Apr 3 12:04:40 2008 From: radiotest@cox.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:04:40 -0400 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA In-Reply-To: <000f01c8959f$51f8aed0$83eda644@SatU205S5044> References: <521b7fd10803271904i72a6cb9dn18a51d41d4d9745d@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080403104008.03908bc8@cox.net> <000f01c8959f$51f8aed0$83eda644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080403115038.0387aec8@cox.net> At 11:28 AM 4/3/2008, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >WBZ's towers in Hull are 185.5 degrees tall. If my math is correct, >that comes out to 492' or almost exactly 500m. The station's 2006 renewal app includes an RF hazard exhibit giving the towers' height as 500'. Remember that the site was constructed to operate on 990 kHz. > From the photo, it >appears that the towers are guyed at approximately 175' and 350' above >ground. That's pretty close. I would estimate the guy levels as 180' and 365'. >That leaves ~140' at the top unguyed. Is that approximately >correct? And if so, isn't that a very great length of a slender >uniform cross-section tower to be left to support itself--especially >given the high wind loads one would expect in the unsheltered seaside >location? That is not unusual given that there is no additional load above the upper guys except for lighting. However, that is an old photo of the Hull towers. In 1999 they were completely refurbished. New base insulators were installed, and the towers were re-guyed with five levels. The lead-based red and white paint was completely removed and replaced with new paint. See these articles by Scott Fybush: http://www.fybush.com/sites/2005/site-050805.html http://www.fybush.com/sites/2005/site-050819.html The first shows the current guy levels. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From madprof@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 3 12:27:51 2008 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:27:51 -0400 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA meeting report Message-ID: <380-22008443162751640@ix.netcom.com> I'm composing report still, sorry so late. maybe optimistic? Bob > . . . And does anyone out there have a report about this past Tuesday's > hearing regarding the East Springfield development? > > -Doug From Joe@attorneyross.com Thu Apr 3 13:54:51 2008 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:54:51 -0500 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080403104008.03908bc8@cox.net> References: <521b7fd10803271904i72a6cb9dn18a51d41d4d9745d@mail.gmail.com>, <521b7fd10803271904i72a6cb9dn18a51d41d4d9745d@mail.gmail.co m>, <7.0.1.0.2.20080403104008.03908bc8@cox.net> Message-ID: <47F4D39B.10590.3AAA11@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 3 Apr 2008 Dale H. Cook wrote: > I've posted a 1024x768 bitmap image of the WBZ towers past and > present. On the left are the original WBZ (later WBZA) towers atop the > old Westinghouse factory in East Springfield. On the right are the > current WBZ towers in Hull. > http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html But no images of the Soldiers' Field Road auxiliary tower. Or the TV towers, past and present. I was hoping you'd have an image of the original TV tower at Soldiers' Field Road. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Apr 3 12:58:24 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:58:24 -0400 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA References: <521b7fd10803271904i72a6cb9dn18a51d41d4d9745d@mail.gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080403104008.03908bc8@cox.net><000f01c8959f$51f8aed0$83eda644@SatU205S5044> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80134C98F@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> Message-ID: <001201c895ab$f1f7e340$83eda644@SatU205S5044> Hi, Sid: Thanks. You pointed out only one of several errors in my posting. The towers are not 185.5 degrees, as I had said; they are, as you pointed out, 188.5 degrees, which is ~500' at 1030. I had said 492', and called it ~500m, which is obviously wrong; 492' is just about 150m. I wonder whether the difference between the photo that Dale posted and the one that Scott posted could be that the WBZ towers were reguyed maybe half a dozen years ago. Before that work was done, it had been mentioned several times on this list that the towers were to be completely replaced. There were several delays in the replacement and then it was announced that the station's owner (probably Infinity back then) had decided that replacement was not necessary and that the towers would be reguyed. It is possible that there were only two sets of guys on each tower originally and that reguying involved adding three sets and replacing two. A visit to Hull might provide the answer or it might not. (It would, however, allow me to say that I had been to Hull and back;>) I suppose that, by connecting multiple guys to a single anchor point, one can use only two anchor points to anchor five guys. However, if everything were done properly, wouldn't having a separate anchor point for each guy provide higher reliability than anchoring two or three guys at a single point? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Schweiger" To: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:53 AM Subject: RE: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA >>WBZ's towers in Hull are 185.5 degrees tall. If my math is correct, that comes out to 492' or almost exactly 500m. I have no idea of the face dimension, but the towers appear to be triangular in cross section and quite slender relative to their height. From the photo, it appears that the towers are guyed at approximately 175' and 350' above ground. That leaves ~140' at the top unguyed. Is that approximately correct? And if so, isn't that a very great length of a slender uniform cross-section tower to be left to support itself--especially given the high wind loads one would expect in the unsheltered seaside location? I was surprised to see only two sets of guys on such tall and slender towers and even more surprised that the higher guy-attachment points are so far from the top. Is there somebody reading this with enough structural-engineering savvy to comment?<< Scott Fybush's shot of the towers is much more detailed. See it here: http://pcswithease.com/WBZ/wbz_transmitter_site.html Five guy levels, with what appears to be only the top 20 feet or so unguyed. The FCC database says they're 188.5 degrees, not 185.5. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 P: 617-779-5369 F: 617-779-5379 E: sid@wrko.com From billohno@gmail.com Thu Apr 3 13:06:24 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:06:24 -0400 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA In-Reply-To: <001201c895ab$f1f7e340$83eda644@SatU205S5044> References: <521b7fd10803271904i72a6cb9dn18a51d41d4d9745d@mail.gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080403104008.03908bc8@cox.net><000f01c8959f$51f8aed0$83eda644@SatU205S5044> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80134C98F@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <001201c895ab$f1f7e340$83eda644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <200804031706.m33H6OvI023967@mail175c2.megamailservers.com> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Hi, Sid: Thanks. You pointed out only one of several errors in my > posting. The towers are not 185.5 degrees, as I had said; they are, as > you pointed out, 188.5 degrees, which is ~500' at 1030. I had said > 492', and called it ~500m, which is obviously wrong; 492' is just > about 150m. Dan, collectively, we will let this one slide. This time... Bill O'Neill // From brouder@juno.com Thu Apr 3 12:31:02 2008 From: brouder@juno.com (brouder@juno.com) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:31:02 GMT Subject: Channel 4 Marathon coverage Message-ID: <20080403.123102.12239.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> With the Boston Marathon just a couple of weeks away I wonder how the WBZ TV layoffs will affect coverage? Especially since Bob Lobel traditionally has anchored it... Ed Brouder Manchester, NH _____________________________________________________________ Click here to double your salary by becoming a medical transcriber. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/REAK6ZpQIMX4G4Pv92y5cYfNxNd2EHw3Li2jzchGduOwTYT4eATFF1/ From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Thu Apr 3 14:12:17 2008 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:12:17 -0400 Subject: Channel 4 Marathon coverage References: <20080403.123102.12239.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <000601c895b6$415adf00$0201a8c0@Family> ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Channel 4 Marathon coverage With the Boston Marathon just a couple of weeks away I wonder how the WBZ TV layoffs will affect coverage? Especially since Bob Lobel traditionally has anchored it... << According to one of the Herald articles, Bob is still scheduled to anchor the Marathon on channel 4. - -Chuck Igo From billohno@gmail.com Thu Apr 3 14:29:06 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:29:06 -0400 Subject: Channel 4 Marathon coverage In-Reply-To: <20080403.123102.12239.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> References: <20080403.123102.12239.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <200804031829.m33IT6DY024806@mail176c2.megamailservers.com> brouder@juno.com wrote: > With the Boston Marathon just a couple of weeks away I wonder how the WBZ TV layoffs will affect coverage? Especially since Bob Lobel traditionally has anchored it... > Maybe the PA guy at Wonderland is available. There goes Yankee.... Bill O' From radiotest@cox.net Thu Apr 3 13:38:56 2008 From: radiotest@cox.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:38:56 -0400 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA In-Reply-To: <47F4D39B.10590.3AAA11@Joe.attorneyross.com> References: <521b7fd10803271904i72a6cb9dn18a51d41d4d9745d@mail.gmail.com> <521b7fd10803271904i72a6cb9dn18a51d41d4d9745d@mail.gmail.co m> <7.0.1.0.2.20080403104008.03908bc8@cox.net> <47F4D39B.10590.3AAA11@Joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080403133633.0389e410@cox.net> At 01:54 PM 4/3/2008, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >But no images of the Soldiers' Field Road auxiliary tower. I don't have one of those. >Or the TV towers, past and present. I'm a radio engineer. I don't truck with people who can't tell the difference between good audio and bad audio and who think only in terms of pictures. :-) Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html From cohasset@frontiernet.net Thu Apr 3 18:09:59 2008 From: cohasset@frontiernet.net (Cohasset / Hippisley) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 18:09:59 -0400 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA In-Reply-To: <001201c895ab$f1f7e340$83eda644@SatU205S5044> References: <521b7fd10803271904i72a6cb9dn18a51d41d4d9745d@mail.gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080403104008.03908bc8@cox.net><000f01c8959f$51f8aed0$83eda644@SatU205S5044> <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE80134C98F@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> <001201c895ab$f1f7e340$83eda644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <019701c895d7$75456ad0$5fd04070$@net> -----Original Message----- From: Dan.Strassberg Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: Re: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA >I wonder whether the difference between the photo that Dale posted and the one that Scott posted could be that the WBZ towers were reguyed maybe half a dozen years ago....It is possible that there were only two sets of guys on each tower originally.... During the winter of 66-67, while I was working for Bill Hauser and Glenn Lahman in WBZ-TV's engineering department, an apparent problem developed at Hull in the middle of a blizzard -- the remote phase monitor in the radio control room at 1170 SFR started supplying the wrong numbers. The radio Chief Engineer (whose name now escapes me) and I had gotten to be friends, so he invited me to ride out to Hull with him to see what the problem might be. While we were there I took the opportunity to go stand underneath the main tower and look straight up. I couldn't believe my eyes! In the winds, the tower undulated like a snake slithering along the ground. I had my own rock solid 40-foot ham tower at the time, so I was totally unprepared for the amount of sideways motion allowed between the guy stations. To the best of my recollection, there were only two guy levels, with a fairly tall (100+ feet?) section above the upper guy bracket. The CE assured me that the motion I observed was "normal" for that tower.... Bud Hippisley From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 3 21:24:21 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 21:24:21 -0400 Subject: Channel 4 Marathon coverage In-Reply-To: <200804031829.m33IT6DY024806@mail176c2.megamailservers.com> References: <20080403.123102.12239.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> <200804031829.m33IT6DY024806@mail176c2.megamailservers.com> Message-ID: I've never understood how Bob Lobel lasted in Boston to begin with. What am I missing? From PeterH5322@rattlebrain.com Thu Apr 3 18:25:34 2008 From: PeterH5322@rattlebrain.com (Peter) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:25:34 -0700 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield, MA In-Reply-To: <000f01c8959f$51f8aed0$83eda644@SatU205S5044> References: <521b7fd10803271904i72a6cb9dn18a51d41d4d9745d@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080403104008.03908bc8@cox.net> <000f01c8959f$51f8aed0$83eda644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4E3E75CC-D3AC-460D-83F5-DCD3D411E5E7@rattlebrain.com> On Apr 3, 2008, at 8:28 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > WBZ's towers in Hull are 185.5 degrees tall. If my math is correct, > that comes out to 492' or almost exactly 500m. I have no idea of the > face dimension, but the towers appear to be triangular in cross > section and quite slender relative to their height. From the photo, it > appears that the towers are guyed at approximately 175' and 350' above > ground. That leaves ~140' at the top unguyed. Is that approximately > correct? And if so, isn't that a very great length of a slender > uniform cross-section tower to be left to support itself--especially > given the high wind loads one would expect in the unsheltered seaside > location? Two levels of guys is pretty much standard for old Class I-A and Class I-B verticals installed pre-War or, for a few of them installed just post-War. The face is usually about 48", with 2" thick vertical members and an appropriate number of diagonal braces. Recall that the 650 and 1210 Blaw-Knoxes (650 for pre- and post-War; 1170 for pre-War, 1210 for post-War; both originally 225 degrees) are amongst the tallest verticals which have one level of guys, so it is not unreasonable that a constant cross section radiator of equal height, constructed conservatively, could make do with two levels of guys if a non-constant cross section could make do with only one level. If my math works out correctly, WBZ on 990 would have had 192.2 degree radiators ... very close to optimum for a Class I. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Thu Apr 3 21:52:41 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 18:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Channel 4 Marathon coverage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <710890.99281.qm@web55315.mail.re4.yahoo.com> --- Dan Billings wrote: > I've never understood how Bob Lobel lasted in Boston > to begin with. What am > I missing? Ouch! Well, if I remember correctly, Bob Lobel could make sports interesting for the non-sports fan (women?) and yet still had the respect of the die-hards. He had a good sense of humor and had such good chemistry with Liz Walker for all those years. I think he had a lighthearted good natured way about him that endeared him to many. Plus that "boy next door" looks. That's my $.02 I think that thought gets expressed whenever someone gets entrenched into a market for a long time like Lobel. There are new people, new generation, etc...that don't feel the same connection with the legendary host. I always felt this with Dave Maynard and Carl Desuze. I never understood their appeal. I remember when I lived in Hartford, people told me Bob Steele on WTIC was the big morning show in Hartford. I couldn't wait to listen....but my response was...."huh"? Anyone else ever hear him? This is a guy who announced the antenna pattern change! And got a 20 share! ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From madprof@ix.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 00:23:58 2008 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 00:23:58 -0400 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield 4-01-08 meeting report Message-ID: <380-2200845442358656@ix.netcom.com> I prepared a presentation of ~10 minutes (printed a clue sheet to keep me in gear), and wore a tie to help me be taken seriously. As I came into sight of the Westinghouse complex, I have to admit, the towers gave me a thrill, of radio pride, of acknowledging the accomplishments at that site. The meeting was at a sheet metal union headquarters, where monthly East Springfield community board meetings are held (thus well known to the neighborhood). I arrived ~ 6:30, just as Packard Development's Paul Cincotta, project manager, and their engineering consulting firm VHB (John Ferman?) arrived, so I spoke to them immediately, politely saying that I wanted to speak of the historical significance of the towers, after the community intended issues had been covered & questions answered. More then 120 local folks showed up (I quit counting when chairs were full, and people starting sitting on the floor). In attendance were Darlotte Justice, district director for Senator Gale Candaras, and Brian Conners of the Springfield Planning & Economic Development office. The leader of the community board, Kathy Brown handled the introductions and question period. Paul Cincotta led the presentation, telling of new traffic lights, widening Page Blvd, water & power considerations. Oddly, the developer's maps (excellent graphics) were upside down, drawn with north pointing ~200 degrees. Drawn plans of proposed shopping center layout show parking lot where the towers still exist (shudder!!) There was a previous meeting, in Nov 2007, which would have been a much more appropriate point to inject historical comment, earlier. ~ 8:10, when questions were winding down, I reminded the Paul Cincotta of my intent, they let me take the podium for about 7 minutes. Some kicks & spurts, and sometimes not near enuf to microphone, but I felt it went basically smoothly. I spoke of the historical significance: 1st commercial lic, the uniqueness in early radio history, and that there were few stations on the air at that time. I mentioned the Thornten Burgess show & other early shows which had importance to the Springfield area. Mentioned Springfield's pride in the cities firsts (Gee-Bee airplanes & Indian motorcycles), implying of course that early WBZ was a Springfield 1st. Told that WBZ broadcast the first Boston Bruins hockey game. I explained the concept of how the towers (as Doug Drown wrote) would make a unique centerpiece for the [shopping center] project, and mentioned a name "Radio Plaza, the birthplace of WBZ" Included descriptions of a commemorative display or plaque explaining the history of WBZ in Springfield. I suggested that the building(s) under the towers could be revamped (rebuilt to suit the shopping center), preserving the towers on top. When I ended, there was considerable clapping from the residents, a total surprise!! Over 20 people approached me to thank me, some for learning the historical significance, some who know it, thanking me for bringing it to light! The Developer and the engineer firm asked for paper copy, I gave them printouts of the BostonRadio.Org & Donna's "early history of WBZ", and the recent VirtualEarth image which faintly shows the 2 towers (see below). Many asked where these towers are, I pointed outside, (there was still enuf light at 8:30 to see them) Paul Cincotta said "maybe a tower could be saved", I pointed out that the towers were for support, transmitting element was a long wire (ok, dipole) between, so he understood it's a set. time frame? construction start early 2009? I learned that a new "Memorial Industrial Park II" is scheduled to begin construction nearby, northeast of the I-291 exit 5, (& from Westinghouse complex). Issues like traffic patterns of this have been considered re the proposed shopping center. 4-02-08 Email from Kathy Brown, East Springfield Community board "Thank you very much for your interest in our neighborhood and the historical value of the towers.... I appreciate your attendance and your comments....Your comments were well received. Please keep in touch...." So, in all, there's a spark of hope? The community folks' response apparently was well noticed by Packard Development. Images: http://home.netcom.com/~madprof/radio.html (scroll down to "Save the Towers") 1 from Microsoft Visual Earth ("Live search"), recent, in which the 2 towers are visible, with very keen eyes. I did put arrows to the towers centers. Towers are in the west end of the Westinghouse complex. The gif is from USGS, showing the whole Westinghouse complex. Bob Sutherland. From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Apr 4 09:20:28 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:20:28 -0400 Subject: Channel 4 Marathon coverage References: <710890.99281.qm@web55315.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ea01c89656$a7653200$6401a8c0@DougDrown> I don't know whether people who are Busters (and younger) can identify with personality-oriented radio much at all. But we Boomers did, and it was a curious thing. I passionately loved Top 40 rock, and loved the legendary DJs such as Bruce Bradley, Cousin Bruce Morrow, and all --- but I also liked guys such as Carl deSuze, Dave Maynard, Salty Brine and Herb Oscar Anderson (of WABC) who were older and didn't fit the usual Top 40 DJ mold. That quieter morning-drive approach, with its banter and sometimes corny jokes, was somehow pleasant. Morning radio was a unique phenomenon. Still is, to some extent. Bob Lobel doesn't fit the mold, either. But neither did Howard Cosell. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald A." To: "Dan Billings" ; "Bill O'Neill" ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Channel 4 Marathon coverage > > --- Dan Billings wrote: > >> I've never understood how Bob Lobel lasted in Boston >> to begin with. What am >> I missing? > > Ouch! > > Well, if I remember correctly, Bob Lobel could make > sports interesting for the non-sports fan (women?) and > yet still had the respect of the die-hards. He had a > good sense of humor and had such good chemistry with > Liz Walker for all those years. I think he had a > lighthearted good natured way about him that endeared > him to many. Plus that "boy next door" looks. That's > my $.02 > > I think that thought gets expressed whenever someone > gets entrenched into a market for a long time like > Lobel. There are new people, new generation, > etc...that don't feel the same connection with the > legendary host. I always felt this with Dave Maynard > and Carl Desuze. I never understood their appeal. > > I remember when I lived in Hartford, people told me > Bob Steele on WTIC was the big morning show in > Hartford. I couldn't wait to listen....but my > response was...."huh"? Anyone else ever hear him? > This is a guy who announced the antenna pattern > change! And got a 20 share! > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Thu Apr 3 23:04:28 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 23:04:28 -0400 Subject: Channel 4 Marathon coverage In-Reply-To: <710890.99281.qm@web55315.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <710890.99281.qm@web55315.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80804032004v2f0a113ds8ae062cdd0d26a9@mail.gmail.com> Bob Steele is the only man whos ever been able to SELL advertising before/after the pattern change! When he passed away, WTIC dropped their carrier for like 30 seconds in his honor. Paul Walker www.realradiousa.com On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Donald A. wrote: > > --- Dan Billings wrote: > > > I've never understood how Bob Lobel lasted in Boston > > to begin with. What am > > I missing? > > Ouch! > > Well, if I remember correctly, Bob Lobel could make > sports interesting for the non-sports fan (women?) and > yet still had the respect of the die-hards. He had a > good sense of humor and had such good chemistry with > Liz Walker for all those years. I think he had a > lighthearted good natured way about him that endeared > him to many. Plus that "boy next door" looks. That's > my $.02 > > I think that thought gets expressed whenever someone > gets entrenched into a market for a long time like > Lobel. There are new people, new generation, > etc...that don't feel the same connection with the > legendary host. I always felt this with Dave Maynard > and Carl Desuze. I never understood their appeal. > > I remember when I lived in Hartford, people told me > Bob Steele on WTIC was the big morning show in > Hartford. I couldn't wait to listen....but my > response was...."huh"? Anyone else ever hear him? > This is a guy who announced the antenna pattern > change! And got a 20 share! > > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Apr 4 11:47:21 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:47:21 -0400 Subject: Channel 4 Marathon coverage References: <710890.99281.qm@web55315.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <8bce0fe80804032004v2f0a113ds8ae062cdd0d26a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000501c8966b$2d358b50$cfefa644@SatU205S5044> Well, many daytimers used to "sell" the time they were off the air each night. The clients were usually (but not always) furniture stores, who would advertise, for example, that "The next 14 hours and 45 minutes of restful silence are brought to you by XYZ Furniture
, where you can find out what sleeping on a cloud is like when you try out the newest Sealy PosturePedic (or whatever) mattress with the oh-so restful quilted top. Nighty-night and sweet dreams from Sealy, XYZ Furniture, and Great Sounds , Wxxx." Notice how Sealy got worked into this one--put those co-op dollars to work, Mr Advertiser. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:04 PM Subject: Re: Channel 4 Marathon coverage > Bob Steele is the only man whos ever been able to SELL advertising > before/after the pattern change! > > When he passed away, WTIC dropped their carrier for like 30 seconds > in his > honor. > > Paul Walker > www.realradiousa.com > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Donald A. > wrote: > >> >> --- Dan Billings wrote: >> >> > I've never understood how Bob Lobel lasted in Boston >> > to begin with. What am >> > I missing? >> >> Ouch! >> >> Well, if I remember correctly, Bob Lobel could make >> sports interesting for the non-sports fan (women?) and >> yet still had the respect of the die-hards. He had a >> good sense of humor and had such good chemistry with >> Liz Walker for all those years. I think he had a >> lighthearted good natured way about him that endeared >> him to many. Plus that "boy next door" looks. That's >> my $.02 >> >> I think that thought gets expressed whenever someone >> gets entrenched into a market for a long time like >> Lobel. There are new people, new generation, >> etc...that don't feel the same connection with the >> legendary host. I always felt this with Dave Maynard >> and Carl Desuze. I never understood their appeal. >> >> I remember when I lived in Hartford, people told me >> Bob Steele on WTIC was the big morning show in >> Hartford. I couldn't wait to listen....but my >> response was...."huh"? Anyone else ever hear him? >> This is a guy who announced the antenna pattern >> change! And got a 20 share! >> >> >> >> From Joe@attorneyross.com Fri Apr 4 15:00:10 2008 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:00:10 -0500 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield 4-01-08 meeting report In-Reply-To: <380-2200845442358656@ix.netcom.com> References: <380-2200845442358656@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <47F6346A.19272.215989@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 4 Apr 2008 Robert F. Sutherland wrote: > So, in all, there's a spark of hope? The community folks' response > apparently was well noticed by Packard Development. Well, good for you! I hope you have some plans for follow-up. Perhaps articles in local publications, maybe even the Springfield newspaper. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Fri Apr 4 14:09:52 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:09:52 -0400 Subject: WBZ/Westinghouse/Springfield 4-01-08 meeting report In-Reply-To: <47F6346A.19272.215989@Joe.attorneyross.com> References: <380-2200845442358656@ix.netcom.com> <47F6346A.19272.215989@Joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <47F66EF0.8080800@ttlc.net> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > Well, good for you! I hope you have some plans for follow-up. > Perhaps articles in local publications, maybe even the Springfield > newspaper. > > Or perhaps a well-done, concise, to-the-point Web Site. From mike@miscon.net Fri Apr 4 21:03:16 2008 From: mike@miscon.net (mike@miscon.net) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:03:16 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: Lobel on Greater Boston earlier this week Message-ID: <.65.96.208.107.1207357396.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Didn't see it discussed here (or maybe I missed it)... Bob was on with Emily. It might still be available "On Demand" with some of your cable providers... Mike From chris2526@comcast.net Fri Apr 4 21:20:36 2008 From: chris2526@comcast.net (chris2526) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:20:36 -0400 Subject: WLLH Lawrence update Message-ID: <002a01c896bb$4173ad90$03f6764c@Chicken159> Located the major problem with the rooftop antenna, the minor damage I found is likely to have been caused by an HVAC service tech tripping over the copper pipe transmission line. It runs behind one of the units suspended on insulators. The line was shoted to aluminum flashing that seals a few no longer used access holes that penetrate the roof. I now can load enogh power to the antenna where the bridge is now usable. Look for WLLH Lawrence to reappear Sunday afternoon though possibly at a reduced level of power. For the past 6 years this rooftop system has suffered from a 9 ohm seasonal impedance shift that continues to defy any attempt to track it down. It has been one of those things you learn to live with, when it decides to shift I just move a coil tap back and forth between 2 spots. The problem has come down to either the 1936 Linco pole has badly corroded internally or a smiliar type of problem with the top loading hardware. Kurt Jackson has tried everything possible includind physically smacking every inch with a wooden baseball bat to replicate the shift with zero results. ( the shift takes place on the antenna and is not the ATU) Thats all for now, Chris Hall From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Apr 4 21:45:40 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:45:40 -0400 Subject: Radio tower question: WLLH? References: <002a01c896bb$4173ad90$03f6764c@Chicken159> Message-ID: <01b701c896be$c17126f0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> What was the big old vertical radiator that used to stand on a hill on the west side of 495 between Lawrence and Lowell? It was at Exit 39, I think (Route 133). It was replaced sometime back in the '90s, if memory serves, but was there for years and years before that. It was a very sizeable tower. Was it associated with WLLH, WCCM or what? Also: Assuming that WLLH stands for "Lowell, Lawrence, Haverhill" (?), did the station ever actually have a physical presence in Haverhill? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris2526" To: Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:20 PM Subject: WLLH Lawrence update > Located the major problem with the rooftop antenna, the minor damage I > found is likely to have been caused by an HVAC service tech tripping over > the copper pipe transmission line. It runs behind one of the units > suspended on insulators. > The line was shoted to aluminum flashing that seals a few no longer used > access holes that penetrate the roof. > > I now can load enogh power to the antenna where the bridge is now usable. > > Look for WLLH Lawrence to reappear Sunday afternoon though possibly at a > reduced level of power. > For the past 6 years this rooftop system has suffered from a 9 ohm > seasonal impedance shift that continues to defy any attempt to track it > down. > > It has been one of those things you learn to live with, when it decides > to > shift I just move a coil tap back and forth between 2 spots. > > The problem has come down to either the 1936 Linco pole has badly corroded > internally or a smiliar type of problem with the top loading hardware. > > Kurt Jackson has tried everything possible includind physically smacking > every inch with a wooden baseball bat to replicate the shift with zero > results. > ( the shift takes place on the antenna and is not the ATU) > > Thats all for now, > > Chris Hall From mike@miscon.net Fri Apr 4 22:13:53 2008 From: mike@miscon.net (mike@miscon.net) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:13:53 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: Radio tower question: WLLH? In-Reply-To: <01b701c896be$c17126f0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> References: <002a01c896bb$4173ad90$03f6764c@Chicken159> <01b701c896be$c17126f0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <.65.96.208.107.1207361633.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> The 99.5 tower. Bear Hill? I remember always calling it that, but someone once told me that was wrong. There's a story about a plane hitting it many years back - I'm sure someone on the list has the full details Mike > What was the big old vertical radiator that used to stand on a hill on the > west side of 495 between Lawrence and Lowell? It was at Exit 39, I think > (Route 133). It was replaced sometime back in the '90s, if memory serves, > but was there for years and years before that. It was a very sizeable > tower. Was it associated with WLLH, WCCM or what? > > Also: Assuming that WLLH stands for "Lowell, Lawrence, Haverhill" (?), did > the station ever actually have a physical presence in Haverhill? > > -Doug > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "chris2526" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:20 PM > Subject: WLLH Lawrence update > > >> Located the major problem with the rooftop antenna, the minor damage I >> found is likely to have been caused by an HVAC service tech tripping >> over >> the copper pipe transmission line. It runs behind one of the units >> suspended on insulators. >> The line was shoted to aluminum flashing that seals a few no longer used >> access holes that penetrate the roof. >> >> I now can load enogh power to the antenna where the bridge is now >> usable. >> >> Look for WLLH Lawrence to reappear Sunday afternoon though possibly at a >> reduced level of power. >> For the past 6 years this rooftop system has suffered from a 9 ohm >> seasonal impedance shift that continues to defy any attempt to track it >> down. >> >> It has been one of those things you learn to live with, when it decides >> to >> shift I just move a coil tap back and forth between 2 spots. >> >> The problem has come down to either the 1936 Linco pole has badly >> corroded >> internally or a smiliar type of problem with the top loading hardware. >> >> Kurt Jackson has tried everything possible includind physically >> smacking >> every inch with a wooden baseball bat to replicate the shift with zero >> results. >> ( the shift takes place on the antenna and is not the ATU) >> >> Thats all for now, >> >> Chris Hall > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Apr 4 22:14:29 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:14:29 -0400 Subject: Radio tower question: WLLH? References: <002a01c896bb$4173ad90$03f6764c@Chicken159> <01b701c896be$c17126f0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <000d01c896c2$c8eb6130$3aefa644@SatU205S5044> I think the tower you are talking about is on Wood Hill and is technically in Andover. It's the site of 99.5, which for many years was co-owned with WLLH. It's now WCRB (FM). And yes, there was a plan--probably dating back to the '30s--for a Haverhill synchronized Tx on 1400, but it was never built. Anyhow, that's what I've heard. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: "chris2526" ; Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:45 PM Subject: Radio tower question: WLLH? > What was the big old vertical radiator that used to stand on a hill > on the west side of 495 between Lawrence and Lowell? It was at Exit > 39, I think (Route 133). It was replaced sometime back in the '90s, > if memory serves, but was there for years and years before that. It > was a very sizeable tower. Was it associated with WLLH, WCCM or > what? > > Also: Assuming that WLLH stands for "Lowell, Lawrence, Haverhill" > (?), did the station ever actually have a physical presence in > Haverhill? > > -Doug > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "chris2526" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:20 PM > Subject: WLLH Lawrence update > > >> Located the major problem with the rooftop antenna, the minor >> damage I found is likely to have been caused by an HVAC service >> tech tripping over the copper pipe transmission line. It runs >> behind one of the units suspended on insulators. >> The line was shoted to aluminum flashing that seals a few no longer >> used >> access holes that penetrate the roof. >> >> I now can load enogh power to the antenna where the bridge is now >> usable. >> >> Look for WLLH Lawrence to reappear Sunday afternoon though possibly >> at a reduced level of power. >> For the past 6 years this rooftop system has suffered from a 9 ohm >> seasonal impedance shift that continues to defy any attempt to >> track it down. >> >> It has been one of those things you learn to live with, when it >> decides to >> shift I just move a coil tap back and forth between 2 spots. >> >> The problem has come down to either the 1936 Linco pole has badly >> corroded internally or a smiliar type of problem with the top >> loading hardware. >> >> Kurt Jackson has tried everything possible includind physically >> smacking every inch with a wooden baseball bat to replicate the >> shift with zero results. >> ( the shift takes place on the antenna and is not the ATU) >> >> Thats all for now, >> >> Chris Hall > From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Apr 4 22:21:28 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:21:28 -0400 Subject: Radio tower question: WLLH? In-Reply-To: <000d01c896c2$c8eb6130$3aefa644@SatU205S5044> References: <002a01c896bb$4173ad90$03f6764c@Chicken159> <01b701c896be$c17126f0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> <000d01c896c2$c8eb6130$3aefa644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <18422.57896.672399.462703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I think the tower you are talking about is on Wood Hill and is > technically in Andover. It's the site of 99.5, which for many years > was co-owned with WLLH. Or maybe he was talking about the other Andover (North Andover?) tower, which still has 800 on it (whatever be its callsign this month) and used to have 93.7 before WEGQ moved to Peabody. -GAWollman From kvahey@comcast.net Fri Apr 4 22:28:28 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:28:28 -0400 Subject: Radio tower question: WLLH? In-Reply-To: <18422.57896.672399.462703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <002a01c896bb$4173ad90$03f6764c@Chicken159> <01b701c896be$c17126f0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> <000d01c896c2$c8eb6130$3aefa644@SatU205S5044> <18422.57896.672399.462703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4fc429770804041928k135a551ev5c52b888c0a7456f@mail.gmail.com> Bear Hill is or was the infamous ATT long lines relay in Waltham serving points north. It is adjacent to 128 near Poloroid. From mike@miscon.net Fri Apr 4 22:53:23 2008 From: mike@miscon.net (mike@miscon.net) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:53:23 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: Radio tower question: WLLH? In-Reply-To: <4fc429770804041928k135a551ev5c52b888c0a7456f@mail.gmail.com> References: <002a01c896bb$4173ad90$03f6764c@Chicken159> <01b701c896be$c17126f0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> <000d01c896c2$c8eb6130$3aefa644@SatU205S5044> <18422.57896.672399.462703@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4fc429770804041928k135a551ev5c52b888c0a7456f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <.65.96.208.107.1207364003.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Yahhh... I *knew* that... dang! Thanks!! I did mean, Wood Hill... 133 to Haggett's Pond Road, right onto (and up) Holmes to the tower. Mike > Bear Hill is or was the infamous ATT long lines relay in Waltham > serving points north. It is adjacent to 128 near Poloroid. > From nostaticatall@charter.net Fri Apr 4 23:47:13 2008 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 23:47:13 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <010301c8954a$14b146e0$6501a8c0@s20208> References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu><4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com><200804021438.m32EcOhP028873@mail168c2.megamailservers.com><004101c894dc$9de9cb80$0201a8c0@Family> <010301c8954a$14b146e0$6501a8c0@s20208> Message-ID: If the Entercom/Nassau deal hadn't fallen apart, I firmly believe 99.5 would have been at least simulcasting 850 by now. Why else would Entercom have had any interest in WCRB? It's certainly not their billing. The latest BIA revenue estimates for Boston state that billings are way off since WCRB moved from 102.5 to 99.5, even though their market share has only dipped slightly. Entercom would have had programming control over the station if the deal had gone through and there would have been a format flip. Considering the company's eagerness to expand the WEEI brand throughout New England, putting WEEI on 99.5 would have been the logical move. WEEI makes way too much money for someone in the market not to make a serious challenge for the sports talk listener. There are way too many rock, classic hits, AC and talk stations in the region. Rhythmic and urban stations skew too young and don't bill well. There's not enough of a hispanic population here to make a spanish language format profitable. If you were running a struggling FM signal in this market and looking for a format hole, what would you choose? While knocking off WEEI head to head would be a challenge, even grabbing a portion of their revenue share would far exceed what you could generate from putting on some trendy music format. Whether its WEEI or another station willing to seriously take them on, it's just a matter of time before sports talk lands on an FM frequency in this market. The appetite for this format across the money demos is too strong here for it not to. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Apr 3, 2008, at 1:12 AM, Don A wrote: >> If there is anytime for an FM sports talker to emerge, it's this >> year. > > And who was it touting that 99.5 would be sports by now? No doubts > about it! From nostaticatall@charter.net Sat Apr 5 00:09:27 2008 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 00:09:27 -0400 Subject: Lobel on Greater Boston earlier this week In-Reply-To: <.65.96.208.107.1207357396.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> References: <.65.96.208.107.1207357396.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Message-ID: Lobel has been making the media rounds this week since the buyout announcement. I heard him on with Matty on Kiss and on WAMG/WLLH with Michael Felger. There's been plenty of talk about the old days during these appearances. He may be wrapping up the broadcast TV portion of his career, but it sounds like he wants to continue working on radio or one of the regional cable outlets. He's been occasionally doing some guest host work at WEEI on the weekends even before the buyout from Channel 4. My guess is that there will be more work for him down the line. We haven't heard the last of Bob Lobel. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Apr 4, 2008, at 9:03 PM, mike@miscon.net wrote: > Didn't see it discussed here (or maybe I missed it)... Bob was on with > Emily. > > It might still be available "On Demand" with > some of your cable providers... > From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 5 00:37:51 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:37:51 -0400 Subject: Radio tower question: WLLH? In-Reply-To: <000d01c896c2$c8eb6130$3aefa644@SatU205S5044> References: <002a01c896bb$4173ad90$03f6764c@Chicken159>, <000d01c896c2$c8eb6130$3aefa644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <47F6C9DF.16257.5FA48E@joe.attorneyross.com> On 4 Apr 2008 at 22:14, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I think the tower you are talking about is on Wood Hill and is > technically in Andover. It's the site of 99.5, which for many years > was co-owned with WLLH. And it was originally WLLH-FM before it became WSSH. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Sat Apr 5 00:40:13 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 00:40:13 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com> <200804021438.m32EcOhP028873@mail168c2.megamailservers.com> <004101c894dc$9de9cb80$0201a8c0@Family> <010301c8954a$14b146e0$6501a8c0@s20208> Message-ID: <18423.685.597954.288601@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > There are way too many rock, classic hits, AC and talk stations in > the region. Which AC stations would those be? I only count two (of which one, WPLM-FM, is barely in the market). And of the two talk stations, which one do you blow up? (One could argue that WRKO is already doing that quite well without outside help, thank you very much.) > Rhythmic and urban stations skew too young and don't bill well. > There's not enough of a hispanic population here to make a spanish > language format profitable. I'm sure that's news to the people leasing time on 950, 1150, 1230, 1300, 1330, and 1360. Here's a rundown of communities in the Boston market with higher than statewide average Hispanic population: Boston 14.4% 84,836 Brockton 8.0% 7,544 Chelsea 48.4% 16,979 Everett 9.5% 3,614 Framingham 10.9% 7,293 Haverhill 8.8% 5,189 Lawrence 59.7% 43,009 Lowell 14.0% 14,723 Lynn 18.4% 16,385 Salem 11.2% 4,525 Somerville 8.8% 6,818 -------------- ----- ------ Total N/A 210,915 Outlying communities: Clinton 11.6% 1,558 Fitchburg 15.0% 5,865 Leominster 11.0% 4,543 Southbridge 23.9% 3,077 Worcester 15.1% 26,069 --------------- ----- ------ Total N/A 41,112 Or, if you want to go by county: Essex 11.0% 79,576 Middlesex 4.6% 67,408 Norfolk 1.8% 11,706 Plymouth 2.4% 11,348 Suffolk 15.5% 106,920 Worcester 6.8% 51,065 --------------- ----- ------- Total N/A 328,023 (Bearing in mind that these are Census 2000 numbers and thus well outdated by now.) In an old Globe article I found, WUNI claims an audience of about 300,000 for the climax episode of a telenovela -- but it's not clear if this claim is just for channel 27 or also includes other Univision affils in New England. If Boston can support two Spanish-language TV stations, surely it could support a Spanish-language FM. -GAWollman From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Apr 5 01:37:26 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 01:37:26 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu><4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com><200804021438.m32EcOhP028873@mail168c2.megamailservers.com><004101c894dc$9de9cb80$0201a8c0@Family><010301c8954a$14b146e0$6501a8c0@s20208> Message-ID: <005801c896df$3da8b880$6501a8c0@s20208> > Why else would Entercom have had any interest in WCRB? It's certainly > not their billing. The latest BIA revenue estimates for Boston state > that billings are way off since WCRB moved from 102.5 to 99.5... Maybe thats why the deal started to fall apart. > Entercom would have had programming control over the station if the deal > had gone through and there would have been a format flip. You are just so darn sure of yourself, aren't you? What makes you think Entercom would have had control to change the format? They weren't buying the station...they were simply 'partnering'. > Considering the company's eagerness to expand the WEEI brand throughout > New England, putting WEEI on 99.5 would have been the logical move. And listeners in Brockton, Plymouth, etc...(all in the Metro) would have had to get their sports station on one of 2 bad signals. > WEEI makes way too much money for someone in the market not to make a > serious challenge for the sports talk listener. So, why haven't they yet? From kvahey@comcast.net Sat Apr 5 01:51:24 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 01:51:24 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <005801c896df$3da8b880$6501a8c0@s20208> References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com> <200804021438.m32EcOhP028873@mail168c2.megamailservers.com> <004101c894dc$9de9cb80$0201a8c0@Family> <010301c8954a$14b146e0$6501a8c0@s20208> <005801c896df$3da8b880$6501a8c0@s20208> Message-ID: <4fc429770804042251p2e3fd920w8d0aa0043e2ce236@mail.gmail.com> Just of note Lobel is nowhere to be seen in the Marathon promos they were running tonight...Jack Williams was the lead I think any major player who wants to make a dent in sports radio KNOWS they need Ordway onboard and everything else will follow. That is the key ( right or wrong ) From sid@wrko.com Sat Apr 5 08:47:03 2008 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:47:03 -0400 Subject: WLLH Lawrence update In-Reply-To: <002a01c896bb$4173ad90$03f6764c@Chicken159> References: <002a01c896bb$4173ad90$03f6764c@Chicken159> Message-ID: <09109FACA2581A42BBA0C485CE660EE8F3C8EE@ENTCORMB1.etmcorad.com> >>For the past 6 years this rooftop system has suffered from a 9 ohm seasonal impedance shift that continues to defy any attempt to track it down.<< Is the tower solid steel or tubular steel? If the latter, maybe there are some clogged weep holes and water build-up/condensation turns to ice during the winter? Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF/WEEI/WEEI-FM/WKAF/WMKK/WRKO/WVEI/WVEI-FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Brighton MA 02135-2040 P: 617-779-5369 F: 617-779-5379 E: sid@wrko.com From rogerkola@aol.com Sat Apr 5 08:50:28 2008 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:50:28 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com><47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu><4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com><200804021438.m32EcOhP028873@mail168c2.megamailservers.com><004101c894dc$9de9cb80$0201a8c0@Family><010301c8954a$14b146e0$6501a8c0@s20208><005801c896df$3da8b880$6501a8c0@s20208> <4fc429770804042251p2e3fd920w8d0aa0043e2ce236@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003001c8971b$a136e660$0200a8c0@Tanguray> From: "Kevin Vahey" > Just of note > > Lobel is nowhere to be seen in the Marathon promos they were running > tonight...Jack Williams was the lead I was watching those promos and trying to remember how many years ago they were actually done. Maybe three or four. Then I began wondering how many of those people still had jobs at the station... If someone is shown in the promo who got axed, do they have any rights to their image being used or is it the "fruits of their labor" in their position at that time and therefore owned by the company? Roger WA1KAT From hykker@wildblue.net Sat Apr 5 09:44:06 2008 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 09:44:06 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com> <200804021438.m32EcOhP028873@mail168c2.megamailservers.com> <004101c894dc$9de9cb80$0201a8c0@Family> <010301c8954a$14b146e0$6501a8c0@s20208> Message-ID: <47f7824e.050cc00a.6cab.3131@mx.google.com> David Tomm wrote: >WEEI makes way too much money for someone in the market not to make a >serious challenge for the sports talk listener. There are way too >many rock, classic hits, AC and talk stations in the region. Rhythmic >and urban stations skew too young and don't bill well. There's not >enough of a hispanic population here to make a spanish language >format profitable. If you were running a struggling FM signal in >this market and looking for a format hole, what would you choose? >While knocking off WEEI head to head would be a challenge, even >grabbing a portion of their revenue share would far exceed what you >could generate from putting on some trendy music format. How many markets can you name with 2 successful sports-talk stations? 1510 sure is giving WEEI a run for the money, isn't it? :-P WEEI may be successful, but they were also there first, with their existing network they've got Mass. & R.I. pretty well covered signal-wise. The Sox & Celtics are in the family. Why would anyone want to waste a full-market FM on a bunch of boorish guys yelling and second-guessing every decision a coach made? A station without full market coverage most likely wouldn't be able to compete, and certainly without PBP of any of the pro teams, you're destined to be an also-ran. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Apr 5 09:59:47 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:59:47 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com><47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu><4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com><200804021438.m32EcOhP028873@mail168c2.megamailservers.com><004101c894dc$9de9cb80$0201a8c0@Family><010301c8954a$14b146e0$6501a8c0@s20208> <47f7824e.050cc00a.6cab.3131@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <001201c89725$5136a920$2ff8a742@SatU205S5044> Well, WBCN has a full-market signal and the Pats. No doubt they could also have the Bruins, since--for whatever hockey PBP on radio may be worth--their parent company has the contract. Sounds as if 'BCN meets your criteria for succeeding with a sports-talk format. According to figures I saw a couple of days ago, WTKK outbilled WRKO by ~20% last year. I know the analogy between sports talk and issue-oriented talk isn't perfect, but it is relevant. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: "BostonRadio List Mailing" Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 9:44 AM Subject: Re: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 > A station without full market coverage most likely wouldn't be able > to compete, and certainly without PBP of any of the pro teams, > you're destined to be an also-ran. From hykker@wildblue.net Sat Apr 5 10:44:40 2008 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:44:40 -0400 Subject: Lobel , Kulhawik all done at Channel 4 In-Reply-To: <001201c89725$5136a920$2ff8a742@SatU205S5044> References: <4fc429770804020440rbbc8046j9d8893869e9d58cd@mail.gmail.com> <47F3964F.6000902@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> <4fc429770804020728j707b0d12qa29a8831ff1cbf91@mail.gmail.com> <200804021438.m32EcOhP028873@mail168c2.megamailservers.com> <004101c894dc$9de9cb80$0201a8c0@Family> <010301c8954a$14b146e0$6501a8c0@s20208> <47f7824e.050cc00a.6cab.3131@mx.google.com> <001201c89725$5136a920$2ff8a742@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <47f7906d.0504c00a.6e69.129f@mx.google.com> Dan.Strassberg wrote: >Well, WBCN has a full-market signal and the Pats. No doubt they could >also have the Bruins, since--for whatever hockey PBP on radio may be >worth--their parent company has the contract. Sounds as if 'BCN meets >your criteria for succeeding with a sports-talk format. According to >figures I saw a couple of days ago, WTKK outbilled WRKO by ~20% last >year. I know the analogy between sports talk and issue-oriented talk >isn't perfect, but it is relevant. Didn't really think about WBCN, but of any FMs in the market, they'd be the most likely candidate. Given their rather anemic showing as a rock station that's always an option. Dunno if CBS would want to invest that kind of money into it, especially in light of recent company-wide cutbacks. From bobswenson@usa.com Sat Apr 5 10:41:29 2008 From: bobswenson@usa.com (bob swenson) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:41:29 +0500 Subject: WTAG now on FM Message-ID: <20080405144129.53500478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> I was suffing the FM dial and found WTAG Worcester on 94.9 According to George Brown PD at WTAG they started using a repeater Friday from the WSRS transmitting site in Paxton. No other information was given -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Apr 5 11:21:36 2008 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:21:36 -0400 Subject: WTAG now on FM In-Reply-To: <20080405144129.53500478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <001901c89730$bdf762b0$6400a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > I was suffing the FM dial and found WTAG Worcester on 94.9 According > to George Brown PD at WTAG they started using a repeater Friday from the > WSRS transmitting site in Paxton. No other information was given This is W235AV, which was translating WJMN for the past few months. I noticed back in January, that they applied to translate WTAG instead, as one of these new AM translators. Usually they're for tiny graveyard stations, or daytimers. W235AV definitely covers a lot better to the SE than WTAG does. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Sat Apr 5 15:32:21 2008 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:32:21 +0100 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: WTAG now on FM Message-ID: <47F7D3C5.3030507@Gmail.com> Jeff Lehmann wrote, >> I was suffing the FM dial and found WTAG Worcester on 94.9 > This is W235AV, which was translating WJMN for the past few months. Ahhh, so THAT's what's going on! I've noted 'JMN mixing in under WHOM a few times, but thought it was some image/spur from 94.5 (like once several years ago, IIRC, for a few minutes 98.5 was coming in on 98.1 and 98.7). BTW, it *seems* 'HOM has been somewhat weaker than normal (?????at least at certain spots around the house) lately, even without W235AV interfering. ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Apr 5 17:42:05 2008 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 17:42:05 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: WTAG now on FM In-Reply-To: <47F7D3C5.3030507@Gmail.com> Message-ID: <002901c89765$e4c29e70$6400a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > BTW, it *seems* 'HOM has been somewhat weaker than normal (???--at > least at certain spots around the house) lately, even without W235AV > interfering. I would agree with that also, for maybe as long as the last month. Along with the weaker signal, they seem to have no RDS. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From gjspatola@q.com Sat Apr 5 19:27:36 2008 From: gjspatola@q.com (Glenn and Judy Spatola) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:27:36 -0700 Subject: WTAG now on FM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What was on 94.9 FM previously? Glenn Spatola ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:21:36 -0400 > From: "Jeff Lehmann" > Subject: RE: WTAG now on FM > To: "'bob swenson'" , > > Message-ID: <001901c89730$bdf762b0$6400a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> I was suffing the FM dial and found WTAG Worcester on 94.9 According >> to George Brown PD at WTAG they started using a repeater Friday from the >> WSRS transmitting site in Paxton. No other information was given > > This is W235AV, which was translating WJMN for the past few months. I > noticed back in January, that they applied to translate WTAG instead, as > one > of these new AM translators. Usually they're for tiny graveyard stations, > or > daytimers. W235AV definitely covers a lot better to the SE than WTAG does. > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Apr 5 19:30:31 2008 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:30:31 -0400 Subject: WTAG now on FM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003501c89775$0a856020$6400a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > What was on 94.9 FM previously? It's a new station, they've only been on the air since sometime last fall. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From revdoug1@verizon.net Sat Apr 5 21:40:05 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:40:05 -0400 Subject: WTAG now on FM References: <003501c89775$0a856020$6400a8c0@DHPP0DB1> Message-ID: <02c701c89787$2458fd10$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Any reports from the North County? I used to be able to pick up WHOM quite well in the hills up around Gardner and Fitchburg. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Lehmann" To: "'Glenn and Judy Spatola'" ; Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: RE: WTAG now on FM >> What was on 94.9 FM previously? > > It's a new station, they've only been on the air since sometime last fall. > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Apr 5 22:28:37 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 22:28:37 -0400 Subject: WTAG now on FM References: <003501c89775$0a856020$6400a8c0@DHPP0DB1> <02c701c89787$2458fd10$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <001501c8978d$ed3ed500$aceda644@SatU205S5044> I live in Arlington Heights and I have a preset for it on my car radio. The car is a 2002 Chevvy Prizm and the radio is a stock, presumably Delphi, radio with decent, though not super, FM sensitivity. Last time I listened to WHOM was a week or two ago and it was coming in fine. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: "Jeff Lehmann" ; "'Glenn and Judy Spatola'" ; Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 9:40 PM Subject: Re: WTAG now on FM > Any reports from the North County? I used to be able to pick up > WHOM quite well in the hills up around Gardner and Fitchburg. -Doug > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Lehmann" > To: "'Glenn and Judy Spatola'" ; > > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 7:30 PM > Subject: RE: WTAG now on FM > > >>> What was on 94.9 FM previously? >> >> It's a new station, they've only been on the air since sometime >> last fall. >> >> Jeff Lehmann >> Hanson, MA >> > From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sat Apr 5 18:09:46 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 18:09:46 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: WTAG now on FM In-Reply-To: <002901c89765$e4c29e70$6400a8c0@DHPP0DB1> References: <47F7D3C5.3030507@Gmail.com> <002901c89765$e4c29e70$6400a8c0@DHPP0DB1> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80804051509l6a16152aw80461b1a826f1182@mail.gmail.com> Could they be operating from auxiliary facilities with 20KW at 1149 meters, which is 28KW and 11 meters lower then normal which could account for the weaker then normal signal? Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.realradiousa.com On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > > BTW, it *seems* 'HOM has been somewhat weaker than normal (???--at > > least at certain spots around the house) lately, even without W235AV > > interfering. > > I would agree with that also, for maybe as long as the last month. Along > with the weaker signal, they seem to have no RDS. > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, M From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Apr 6 00:09:16 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:09:16 -0400 Subject: AC Hum problem Message-ID: <47F814AC.27231.737DBC@joe.attorneyross.com> Maybe some techies out there can help me with this. I got a new car radio awhile back, which has a CD player, rather than a tape player. So I decided to record some of my tapes into my computer and put them onto CDs. I got a long patch cord that runs from my stereo in the livingroom into my computer in the study, and it worked fine last time I used it. This time, as soon as I connected the patch cord, there was a loud AC hum from the computer. I haven't been able to get rid of it. It's there as long as the stereo is connected to the computer sound card. Even if the stereo is turned off. Anyone have any ideas what's going on and what I can do about it? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dave@skywaves.net Sun Apr 6 00:19:50 2008 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 00:19:50 -0400 Subject: AC Hum problem References: <47F814AC.27231.737DBC@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <001d01c8979d$74ecba30$346ba8c0@skywaves.net> Check the connection at the stereo. It sounds like the shield on the stereo end isn't making good contact. Try twisting the plugs to see if that helps. If not, you may have a ground loop. Since it is a new effect, there may be a power wiring issue. -d ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: AC Hum problem > Maybe some techies out there can help me with this. > > I got a new car radio awhile back, which has a CD player, rather than > a tape player. So I decided to record some of my tapes into my > computer and put them onto CDs. I got a long patch cord that runs > from my stereo in the livingroom into my computer in the study, and > it worked fine last time I used it. > > This time, as soon as I connected the patch cord, there was a loud AC > hum from the computer. I haven't been able to get rid of it. It's > there as long as the stereo is connected to the computer sound card. > Even if the stereo is turned off. > > Anyone have any ideas what's going on and what I can do about it? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Apr 6 00:24:48 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 00:24:48 -0400 Subject: AC Hum problem References: <47F814AC.27231.737DBC@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <002801c8979e$28503070$aceda644@SatU205S5044> Are you sure that none of the two-prong ac plugs on any relevant piece of equipment have been reversed since your last successful use of the system? If there are any ac cords that you can plug in either way and that you occasionally plug and unplug, the plug polarity is a likely cuprit. And, in fact, is it possible to reverse the polarity of the patch cord itself? If so, try reversing it--one end at a time. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Boston Radio Group" Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: AC Hum problem > Maybe some techies out there can help me with this. > > I got a new car radio awhile back, which has a CD player, rather > than > a tape player. So I decided to record some of my tapes into my > computer and put them onto CDs. I got a long patch cord that runs > from my stereo in the livingroom into my computer in the study, and > it worked fine last time I used it. > > This time, as soon as I connected the patch cord, there was a loud > AC > hum from the computer. I haven't been able to get rid of it. It's > there as long as the stereo is connected to the computer sound card. > Even if the stereo is turned off. > > Anyone have any ideas what's going on and what I can do about it? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From nostaticatall@charter.net Sun Apr 6 00:25:07 2008 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 00:25:07 -0400 Subject: WTAG now on FM In-Reply-To: <001501c8978d$ed3ed500$aceda644@SatU205S5044> References: <003501c89775$0a856020$6400a8c0@DHPP0DB1> <02c701c89787$2458fd10$6401a8c0@DougDrown> <001501c8978d$ed3ed500$aceda644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: The signal for 94.9 starts to get a little choppy east of Shrewsbury and it's pretty much gone once you get inside of 495. It is just a translator, but since the stick is up in the Worcester hills--it may be on the same tower as WSRS--it throws a very useable signal throughout Worcester and the immediate surrounding towns, which is where most of the population lives in the Worcester market. It simulcasted WJMN for awhile, but that station covers the market just fine. It didn't need a translator. That was probably just a placeholder until the FCC lifted the ban on simulcasting AM stations on FM translators. WTAG's night signal does get noisy at times once you get a few miles out of town, and this helps the situation. Considering that WTAG now has two local news/talk competitors--WCRN and 1230 the Patriot (WNEB--don't know if the calls changed) this move gets them on FM, which gives them an advantage. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Apr 5, 2008, at 10:28 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I live in Arlington Heights and I have a preset for it on my car > radio. The car is a 2002 Chevvy Prizm and the radio is a stock, > presumably Delphi, radio with decent, though not super, FM > sensitivity. Last time I listened to WHOM was a week or two ago and it > was coming in fine. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" > To: "Jeff Lehmann" ; "'Glenn and Judy Spatola'" > ; > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 9:40 PM > Subject: Re: WTAG now on FM > > >> Any reports from the North County? I used to be able to pick up >> WHOM quite well in the hills up around Gardner and Fitchburg. -Doug >> From rbello@belloassoc.com Mon Apr 7 03:38:42 2008 From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:38:42 -0700 Subject: AC Hum problem Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080407003840.043fb4e8@belloassoc.com> It is most likely a ground loop. Getting rid of can be simple or a real pain. Easiest solution is to plug everything in exactly the way it was before (no hum). This includes how the components are plugged into the AC outlets. Sometimes flipping the plug 180 degrees (if possible) will do it. At 09:09 PM 4/5/2008, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >Maybe some techies out there can help me with this. > >I got a new car radio awhile back, which has a CD player, rather than >a tape player. So I decided to record some of my tapes into my >computer and put them onto CDs. I got a long patch cord that runs >from my stereo in the livingroom into my computer in the study, and >it worked fine last time I used it. > >This time, as soon as I connected the patch cord, there was a loud AC >hum from the computer. I haven't been able to get rid of it. It's >there as long as the stereo is connected to the computer sound card. >Even if the stereo is turned off. > >Anyone have any ideas what's going on and what I can do about it? > >-- >A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 >Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From madprof@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 01:30:33 2008 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 01:30:33 -0400 Subject: WTAG now on FM Message-ID: <380-2200840653033203@ix.netcom.com> according to FCC FM Query, coords -do- match the WSRS stick. the polar pattern is a beam south east ( ~121 degrees), and the coverage map shows choppiness, with loss mostly NE & SE areas past Worcester. Bob From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Sun Apr 6 01:51:37 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:51:37 -0400 Subject: AC Hum problem In-Reply-To: <47F814AC.27231.737DBC@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <47F814AC.27231.737DBC@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <47F864E9.9030605@ttlc.net> Try running an extension cord from the outlets (into which computer is plugged) to your stereo and run the stereo on that. It could eliminate a ground loop because all the equipment is plugged into the same circuit. A. Joseph Ross wrote: > Maybe some techies out there can help me with this. > > I got a new car radio awhile back, which has a CD player, rather than > a tape player. So I decided to record some of my tapes into my > computer and put them onto CDs. I got a long patch cord that runs > from my stereo in the livingroom into my computer in the study, and > it worked fine last time I used it. > > This time, as soon as I connected the patch cord, there was a loud AC > hum from the computer. I haven't been able to get rid of it. It's > there as long as the stereo is connected to the computer sound card. > Even if the stereo is turned off. > > Anyone have any ideas what's going on and what I can do about it? > > From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sun Apr 6 14:27:14 2008 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:27:14 -0400 Subject: Farewell to Chuck Heston Message-ID: <000801c89813$d8a769f0$0201a8c0@Family> Sad to note the passing of Charlton Heston. Over the course of the past 20 years, he lent his dulcet tones to those great Bud Light commercials - and among my favs - his keeping of a straight face while reading the copy for those Bud Light Real American Heroes spots (that have spawned the ever-growing legion of Real Men of Genius Bud Light commericals). - -Chuck Igo From lglavin@mail.com Sun Apr 6 14:09:54 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 13:09:54 -0500 Subject: The Bright Lights Of Downtown Lawrence Message-ID: <20080406180954.7B13E478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Here,I was, driving north on route 93 Saturdaay night, and I remembered that Chris and friends were supposed to be putting WLLH-AM 1400's Lawrence transmitter back on-the-air. So I flipped my car radio's AM tuner to 1400, and I could tell from the interference that I was picking up the Lowell transmitter. Just for fun, I thought I'd risk my life and go towards downtown Lawrence, perhaps to be there at the precise minute when approximately 700-foot-long electromagnetic waves would start spewing from the rooftop of 43 Amesbury Street. Now, I must say there's are very few more depressing sights than Downtown Lawrence at close to midnight... no people around, nearly every buiilding dark as a coal mine duing an eclipse of the moon...with ONE exception! The lights were on on every floor of the Cregg Building (if it's still called that) which told me that work was being done on that cranky, old transmitter. No evidence yet that they have succeeded in completingh the work; the only signal at 1:00 pm Sunday on 1400 was still emanating from Lowell. Which raises the question: considering the lack of amenities on Essex Street in Lawrence on weekends, where do they go to eat during lunch breaks...Lawton's? -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Sun Apr 6 14:35:51 2008 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:35:51 +0100 Subject: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning Message-ID: <47F91807.6000306@Gmail.com> Another AM blowtorch bites the dust tomorrow morning at 0600 EDT. For us Dx-ers, they are planning a dx test at midnight this evening (likely just for a few minutes). With them gone, maybe there will be a chance to log LACA's KNX on a good night?! ~Kaimbridge~ (BTW, some E-skip was kicking around Ch.s 2-6??and even into FM briefly??earlier this afternoon.) ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Apr 6 15:53:39 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:53:39 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning References: <47F91807.6000306@Gmail.com> Message-ID: <000701c8981f$eaf804f0$58efa644@SatU205S5044> Is CHOK gone? Not supposed to send much this way but I used to hear it often--could have been a case of Canaditis--inability to switch to night pattern. The station that may present the biggest problem is the 1070 in Indianapolis, which sends the equivalent of a strong 5 kW ND toward Boston at night. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" To: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 2:35 PM Subject: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning > Another AM blowtorch bites the dust tomorrow morning at 0600 EDT. > For us Dx-ers, they are planning a dx test at midnight this evening > (likely just for a few minutes). > With them gone, maybe there will be a chance to log LACA's KNX on a > good night?! > > ~Kaimbridge~ > > (BTW, some E-skip was kicking around Ch.s 2-6??and even into FM > briefly??earlier this afternoon.) > > ----- > Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge > > ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** > From kvahey@comcast.net Sun Apr 6 16:11:46 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:11:46 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning In-Reply-To: <47F91807.6000306@Gmail.com> References: <47F91807.6000306@Gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770804061311i421f0860h72d0e16ae44e1626@mail.gmail.com> I use to listen to Hockey Night in Canada on CBA as it came in much better than CBM and CBL. So how many AM signals does CBC have left? I won't count Radio-Canada in Toronto on 860 as for political reasons it will never go dark. From lglavin@mail.com Sun Apr 6 15:55:52 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:55:52 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning Message-ID: <20080406195552.9CC2A478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" >To: "Boston Radio Interest" >Subject: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning >Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:35:51 +0100 >Another AM blowtorch bites the dust tomorrow morning at 0600 EDT. >For us Dx-ers, they are planning a dx test at midnight this evening >(likely just for a few minutes). >With them gone, maybe there will be a chance to log LACA's KNX on a >good night?! >~Kaimbridge~ These days, attempts at DX-ing on the AM band can be hindered by IBOC hash from a multitude of stations, and not just WBZ-AM alone. BTW, speaking of long-distance AM propagation... could changes at Spoke-ann's KGA-AM 1510 allow WWZN to loosen up its nighttime signal to NNW. Not as ridiculous as it seems because because recent threads have dealt with restrictions on WRKO and WEEI because of same-frequency operations in Denver and San Francisco. If you drive north on route 128 tuned to WWZN at night, there seems to be a null around route 2A. -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sun Apr 6 16:02:38 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:02:38 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning In-Reply-To: <000701c8981f$eaf804f0$58efa644@SatU205S5044> References: <47F91807.6000306@Gmail.com> <000701c8981f$eaf804f0$58efa644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80804061302p11c09094ma24cc3fd5a218d2@mail.gmail.com> CHOK is in Ontario right? Yes, they're sitll there. How does WFNI 1070 Indianpolis send a very strong 5KW towards Boston at night? I disagree. Their 10KW from 6towers sends the pattern almost all Southeast at night and when WCSZ Sans Souci/Greenville, SC is on the air, their 1500W Night from 3 towers gets CREAMED! They are 50KW Day/3 towers.. but are currnetly off the air and for sale. Paul Walker. www.realradiousa.com On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Is CHOK gone? Not supposed to send much this way but I used to hear it > often--could have been a case of Canaditis--inability to switch to > night pattern. The station that may present the biggest problem is the > 1070 in Indianapolis, which sends the equivalent of a strong 5 kW ND > toward Boston at night. > > ----- > From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Apr 6 17:07:17 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 17:07:17 -0400 Subject: Moderator vacation Message-ID: <18425.15237.643928.257070@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Your humble moderator is taking a vacation in Southern California and Nevada starting way too early tomorrow morning and running through the the 16th. Incoming mail which requires moderator attention will be handled once a day (if even that frequently). -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Apr 6 17:12:52 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 17:12:52 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning References: <47F91807.6000306@Gmail.com><000701c8981f$eaf804f0$58efa644@SatU205S5044> <8bce0fe80804061302p11c09094ma24cc3fd5a218d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000e01c8982a$fb17d2b0$58efa644@SatU205S5044> And you'd be right about WFNI (ex-WIBC). I was looking at the day pattern and thought I was looking at the night pattern. Oops. sorry! ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning > CHOK is in Ontario right? Yes, they're sitll there. > > How does WFNI 1070 Indianpolis send a very strong 5KW towards Boston > at > night? I disagree. Their 10KW from 6towers sends the pattern almost > all > Southeast at night and when WCSZ Sans Souci/Greenville, SC is on the > air, > their 1500W Night from 3 towers gets CREAMED! > > They are 50KW Day/3 towers.. but are currnetly off the air and for > sale. > > Paul Walker. > www.realradiousa.com > > > On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Dan.Strassberg > > wrote: > >> Is CHOK gone? Not supposed to send much this way but I used to hear >> it >> often--could have been a case of Canaditis--inability to switch to >> night pattern. The station that may present the biggest problem is >> the >> 1070 in Indianapolis, which sends the equivalent of a strong 5 kW >> ND >> toward Boston at night. >> >> ----- >> From revdoug1@verizon.net Sun Apr 6 17:25:22 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:25:22 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning References: <47F91807.6000306@Gmail.com> <4fc429770804061311i421f0860h72d0e16ae44e1626@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <034d01c8982c$b9326610$6401a8c0@DougDrown> >So how many AM signals does CBC have left? 1550 in Windsor, ON is still operating. CBC One also has a fairly sizeable network of small-town AM outlets as well, that help provide coverage in areas where the larger FMs don't come in especially well. Lac Megantic, QC, has a CBC One station on 1240 kHz. St. Stephen, NB has one on 990. McAdam on 600. AFAIK those are going to continue. I'm not certain of their power output, but I'm guessing they operate at not more than 100 watts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning >I use to listen to Hockey Night in Canada on CBA as it came in much better > than CBM and CBL. > > So how many AM signals does CBC have left? > > I won't count Radio-Canada in Toronto on 860 as for political reasons it > will never go dark. From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Apr 6 17:28:59 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 17:28:59 -0400 Subject: 1510 changes In-Reply-To: <20080406195552.9CC2A478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080406195552.9CC2A478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <18425.16539.468415.270049@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > BTW, speaking of long-distance AM propagation... could changes at > Spoke-ann's KGA-AM 1510 allow WWZN to loosen up its nighttime signal > to NNW. I don't think so; the current WWZN array protects KGA mostly as a side-effect of the protection it must give to WLAC in Nashville. (If I remember correctly, the pattern is symmetric about the east-west axis, so increasing radiation to the NNW would also increase radiation to the SSW. But it's a four-tower rhombus and you can do lots of funky stuff with four-tower rhombi.) It appears that KGA's application would allow WLAC to increase its radiation towards the northwest somewhat, although WLAC is much closer to its class-A first-adjacents in Minneapolis and Oklahoma City. (IIRC, WLAC's array is a bit less flexible.) -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Sun Apr 6 17:39:08 2008 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:39:08 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning In-Reply-To: <034d01c8982c$b9326610$6401a8c0@DougDrown> References: <47F91807.6000306@Gmail.com> <4fc429770804061311i421f0860h72d0e16ae44e1626@mail.gmail.com> <034d01c8982c$b9326610$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <47F942FC.2000403@fybush.com> Doug Drown wrote: >> So how many AM signals does CBC have left? > 1550 in Windsor, ON is still operating. > CBC One also has a fairly sizeable network of small-town AM outlets as > well, that help provide coverage in areas where the larger FMs don't > come in especially well. Lac Megantic, QC, has a CBC One station on > 1240 kHz. St. Stephen, NB has one on 990. McAdam on 600. AFAIK those > are going to continue. I'm not certain of their power output, but I'm > guessing they operate at not more than 100 watts. There are two more sizable AM signals remaining in the east in addition to CBE in Windsor. CBI 1140 in Sydney NS has a permit to move to FM but hasn't built yet. CBN 640 in St. John's NL hasn't (yet) applied to move to FM. Out west, the CBC seems to prefer "nesting" city FM signals within wide-coverage AMs. So the AMs in Edmonton, Calgary, Regina and Winnipeg remain on the air, but with relatively low-power (class A or equivalent) FMs serving urban audiences as a simulcast. CBU Vancouver, 50 kW on 690, has applied to move to FM but is fighting many commercial applicants for the frequency. s From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Apr 6 17:48:24 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 17:48:24 -0400 Subject: 1510 changes References: <20080406195552.9CC2A478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> <18425.16539.468415.270049@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <001401c8982f$f2249df0$58efa644@SatU205S5044> No; WWZN's night pattern is asymmetrical; there is a small lobe to the north and northwest that more-or-less approximates that portion of the old 5 kW two-tower DA-1 pattern. There is no symmetrical lobe to the southwest, because such a lobe, if it existed, would be aimed more or less toward WLAC. Remember, the night array's towers are not in line, so there is nothing about the array geometry that forces the pattern to be symmetrical. Indeed, if you draw a line through the east and west towers, the two towers that do not lie on that axis are not symmetrically located about it. Nevertheless, I believe that constraints other than protections to KGA determined the WWZN array's performance. I suspect that enhancing the minor lobe to the northwest by even a relatively minor amount would run afoul of protections to WLAC, whose night pattern sends appreciable energy to the north. WLAC's skywave in central and western New York is quite strong and probably interferes noticeably with WWKB at the fringes of the Buffalo station's groundwave coverage. (Scott?) ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Laurence Glavin" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 5:28 PM Subject: 1510 changes > < said: > >> BTW, speaking of long-distance AM propagation... could changes at >> Spoke-ann's KGA-AM 1510 allow WWZN to loosen up its nighttime >> signal >> to NNW. > > I don't think so; the current WWZN array protects KGA mostly as a > side-effect of the protection it must give to WLAC in Nashville. > (If > I remember correctly, the pattern is symmetric about the east-west > axis, so increasing radiation to the NNW would also increase > radiation > to the SSW. But it's a four-tower rhombus and you can do lots of > funky stuff with four-tower rhombi.) > > It appears that KGA's application would allow WLAC to increase its > radiation towards the northwest somewhat, although WLAC is much > closer > to its class-A first-adjacents in Minneapolis and Oklahoma City. > (IIRC, WLAC's array is a bit less flexible.) > > -GAWollman From kvahey@comcast.net Sun Apr 6 17:15:15 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 17:15:15 -0400 Subject: Ken Cail new voice of the Lowell Spinners Message-ID: <4fc429770804061415p71923bb1x4f4f6b5b7198fd70@mail.gmail.com> Ken Cail who has been with the Nashua Pride the past 10 years will become the new voice of the Spinners on WCAP http://www.lowellsun.com/sports/ci_8830665 From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Sun Apr 6 19:01:59 2008 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 19:01:59 -0400 Subject: Heritage station calls itself a "heritage station" in ad! Message-ID: <015801c8983a$38f89740$5c884c0c@oemcomputer> Took in six frigid innings of today's Portland-New Britain Eastern League game and had a bit of a chuckle at WDRC-FM's ad in the Rock Cats program. The headline is "SWITCH TO 102.9 DRC-FM! SAY NO TO DISAPPOINTING RADIO!" The subheads then read: -- Make the switch! -- Say yes to 102.9 DRC-FM! -- Say yes to your favorite good time rock 'n roll! -- Say yes to a heritage station with legendary personalities! Five lines of copy about Jerry Kristafer's (the FM's most legendary personality) morning show follow before the ad winds up with the following: SATISFACTION GUARANTEED! 102.9 DRC-FM works with your existing radio! Larry Wells, Doug Taylor and Mike Stevens, all at no additional cost! I don't know about you, but this ad sort of reminded me of those cornball ads that used to run in Broadcasting magazine back in the '70s and earlier -- the ones with sparking, smiling microphones lifting barbells to show potential time-buyers just how powerful WXXX's signal was. It certainly stood out from the only other radio ad in the program: WTIC-FM's "Hit after Hit after Hit" ad featuring a bunch of baseball's with "Daughtry" and "Gwen Stefani" and "Sheryl Crow" and other Hot AC artists' names superimposed on them. Do non-radio geeks really understand what a "heritage station" is? Incidentally, advertising by all media -- in the program and on the outfield fence -- is severely reduced from last year. Clear Channel's Hartford cluster is not advertising at all, nor is the Hartford Courant. The New Britain Herald, which used to be on the fence and in the program, is now only in the program. The CBS cluster is represented with just the TIC-FM ad, nothing at all for the AM this season. WCCC, a program regular for years, has no presence this year. And WVIT, Channel 30, has gone from a big ad on the fence and a full-page program ad to just a tiny ad alongside the clock above the fence in right, where Clear Channel's WWYZ used to advertise. The only radio ad on the fence is DRC-FM's, just the station logo. Recession is hell, I guess. Howard From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Sun Apr 6 20:18:05 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:18:05 -0400 Subject: The Bright Lights Of Downtown Lawrence In-Reply-To: <20080406180954.7B13E478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080406180954.7B13E478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <47F9683D.6030007@ttlc.net> Laurence Glavin wrote: > Now, I must say there's are very few more depressing sights than Downtown Lawrence at close to midnight... no people around, nearly every buiilding dark > ... Obviously, you never ventured a couple of blocks north onto Rte 110/Jackson Street - home of Punto Final - one of the hoppingest Hip-Hop clubs around. DJ Gera & Geramatic entertain frequently. > Which raises the question: > considering the lack of amenities on Essex Street in Lawrence on weekends, where > do they go to eat during lunch breaks...Lawton's? > Actually, that's "Lawton's By The Sea." There's Mounir's & Therese Kitchen - Lebanese Cuisine - just over the bridge in South Lawrence. Kibbee, Shawarma, Kafta, Steak/Lamb Tips & Steak & Cheese Subs. To keep this post in the realm of Airwaves north of Boston, they are Radio Engineering-friendly, open weekends (Fri & Sat) until 3 a.m. There's also Jim's Subs and, of course, the venerable (read: been there for decades) Cedar Crest near the Lawrence-Methuen border. Good, old-fashioned home cooking. High Tech (and by extension or inclusion, Radio) occasionally hankers for Asian cuisine and the Yokohama (with Teppenyaki) fills the bill quite nicely - again, just over the river in South Lawrence. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Apr 6 20:32:07 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:32:07 -0400 Subject: The Bright Lights Of Downtown Lawrence References: <20080406180954.7B13E478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> <47F9683D.6030007@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <000501c89846$d10f9090$58efa644@SatU205S5044> And since Mr Glavin is from Methuen, which, I believe, abuts Lawrence, you are making me want to sing at least one rousing chorus of the late Jess Cain's immortal composition, "Fly Me to Methuen." Jess probably wrote a song parody about Lawrence itself at some point, but if he did, it never reached the heights of popularity of Fly Me to Methuen. Even his "Nantasket, Nantasket, the Insular Peninsula Down there in Hull" never achieved the status of Fly Me to Methuen. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kirk" To: "Laurence Glavin" Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: Re: The Bright Lights Of Downtown Lawrence > > > Laurence Glavin wrote: >> Now, I must say there's are very few more depressing sights than >> Downtown Lawrence at close to midnight... no people around, nearly >> every buiilding dark >> ... > Obviously, you never ventured a couple of blocks north onto Rte > 110/Jackson Street - home of Punto Final - one of the hoppingest > Hip-Hop clubs around. DJ Gera & Geramatic entertain frequently. > >> Which raises the question: >> considering the lack of amenities on Essex Street in Lawrence on >> weekends, where >> do they go to eat during lunch breaks...Lawton's? >> > Actually, that's "Lawton's By The Sea." There's Mounir's & Therese > Kitchen - Lebanese Cuisine - just over the bridge in South Lawrence. > Kibbee, Shawarma, Kafta, Steak/Lamb Tips & Steak & Cheese Subs. To > keep this post in the realm of Airwaves north of Boston, they are > Radio Engineering-friendly, open weekends (Fri & Sat) until 3 a.m. > There's also Jim's Subs and, of course, the venerable (read: been > there for decades) Cedar Crest near the Lawrence-Methuen border. > Good, old-fashioned home cooking. > > High Tech (and by extension or inclusion, Radio) occasionally > hankers for Asian cuisine and the Yokohama (with Teppenyaki) fills > the bill quite nicely - again, just over the river in South > Lawrence. > > From markwats@comcast.net Sun Apr 6 20:39:21 2008 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:39:21 -0400 Subject: Gene Jones References: <050b01c894c4$e3bc04b0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> Message-ID: <014c01c89847$d29e5170$0202a8c0@Mark> Doug Drown wrote: > (I even remember Tommy Rettig, the first boy who was on "Lassie." I can't > recall the name of the character he played, though.) Jeff was his character name. "Jeff's Collie" was one of several programs that came to us on film on WMUR-TV Channel 9, Manchester either before or after Uncle Gus. Mark Watson From thomas.whetston@army.com Sun Apr 6 19:53:10 2008 From: thomas.whetston@army.com (Thomas Whetston) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 18:53:10 -0500 Subject: The Bright Lights Of Downtown Lawrence In-Reply-To: <20080406180954.7B13E478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080406180954.7B13E478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <618437A0CF1F4747842F220D31F2ACF5@ThomPC> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 1:09 PM Subject: The Bright Lights Of Downtown Lawrence >Here,I was, driving north on route 93 Saturdaay night, and I remembered >that >Chris and friends were supposed to be putting WLLH-AM 1400's Lawrence >transmitter back on-the-air. >considering the lack of amenities on Essex Street in Lawrence on weekends, >where >do they go to eat during lunch breaks...Lawton's? As far away as humanly possible, when I was a lowly partimer in the 80s, the back door facing the parking lot would never close correctly. So since there was heat and benches inside we'd have the opportunity to meet a lot of the downtown Lawrence illuminati. It was the only place I ever worked where big guys would ask if I'd walk them to their car. Lawrence was always an adventure. I've seen many 3rd world *holes and it was one. Thom Whetston (Warren Christy) WCGY 1983-85 WSRS, WMDK Armed Forces Radio WKBR and a host of others.. Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From madprof@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 21:15:01 2008 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:15:01 -0400 Subject: KGA night app Message-ID: <380-220084171151714@ix.netcom.com> I loaded the FCC application data, night 15kw, 4 towers, parameters, etc, and ran a plot / calculation. They are proposing severely cutting their coverage! Yes, Spokane would still be well covered, but I doubt western WA or previously covered parts of BC would still recieve a usable signal at night. And virtually all signal to the east will be gone. Does anyone have hunches, clue, or inside info on why they would do this? Is it a sign of the times, re IBOS & skywave becoming considered useless? Or is it a case similar to when WLIB bought WOWO, and grossly cut WOWO's night pattern so that WLIB could increase its own pattern? Whatever, it's sad when a legacy AM station proposes Bo From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Apr 6 21:19:19 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:19:19 -0400 Subject: KGA night app In-Reply-To: <380-220084171151714@ix.netcom.com> References: <380-220084171151714@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <18425.30359.298817.171190@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Does anyone have hunches, clue, or inside info > on why they would do this? It's all spelled out in the first technical exhibit to their application, which you can find in CDBS. -GAWollman From madprof@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 21:38:15 2008 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:38:15 -0400 Subject: KGA night app Message-ID: <380-2200841713815855@ix.netcom.com> guess I need some education - I look via AM Query, then under CDBS, "Application Info", but there's no technical exhibits. including in "View Correspondence Folder" help? (not to interfere with your trip) Thanks Bob > [Original Message] > From: Garrett Wollman > To: > Cc: BRI > Date: 4/6/2008 9:19:20 PM > Subject: KGA night app > > < said: > > > Does anyone have hunches, clue, or inside info > > on why they would do this? > > It's all spelled out in the first technical exhibit to their > application, which you can find in CDBS. > > -GAWollman From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sun Apr 6 21:20:00 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:20:00 -0400 Subject: KGA night app In-Reply-To: <380-220084171151714@ix.netcom.com> References: <380-220084171151714@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80804061820l4481a827yac54ce07f677ef60@mail.gmail.com> Modifying the KGA license and downgrading it allows them the upgrading of the KPIG-AM license. That uigrade will add TONS of new people into the night time service of KPIG-AM With KPIG-AM having been for sale for years, the more people they can add into the night service, the better. .as a stations sale price is somewhat dependent on the population it serves. In reality, Mapleton is looking at it like this.. Downgrading KGA won't cost us a helluva lot to actually get it done and we won't lose much revenue or listeners at all. It will cost a bit to have KPIG-AM upgraded, but it'll make KPIG-AM more valueable.. and that value will be WAY more then they l;ost by downgrading KGA or the moeny they spent upgrading KPIG-AM. Paul Walker www.realradiousa.com On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Robert F. Sutherland wrote: > I loaded the FCC application data, night 15kw, 4 towers, parameters, etc, > and ran a plot / calculation. > They are proposing severely cutting their coverage! > Yes, Spokane would still be well covered, but I doubt western WA > or previously covered parts of BC would still recieve a usable signal at > night. > And virtually all signal to the east will be gone. > > Does anyone have hunches, clue, or inside info > on why they would do this? > > Is it a sign of the times, re IBOS & skywave becoming considered useless? > > Or is it a case similar to when WLIB bought WOWO, and > grossly cut WOWO's night pattern so that WLIB could increase > its own pattern? > > Whatever, it's sad when a legacy AM station proposes > > Bo > From scott@fybush.com Sun Apr 6 21:41:20 2008 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 21:41:20 -0400 Subject: KGA night app In-Reply-To: <18425.30359.298817.171190@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <380-220084171151714@ix.netcom.com> <18425.30359.298817.171190@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <47F97BC0.3000901@fybush.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> Does anyone have hunches, clue, or inside info >> on why they would do this? > > It's all spelled out in the first technical exhibit to their > application, which you can find in CDBS. But for the benefit of those of you not up for playing Cryptic Moderator Theatre tonight... :-) Citadel sold KGA to Mapleton last year. Mapleton owns KPIG 1510 in Piedmont (Oakland/San Francisco), and KPIG can substantially increase power if KGA no longer receives the protection of a class A signal. KGA is in the process of being more or less dismantled; its news and talk programming is being swapped with diplexed KJRB 790, leaving KGA as the market's #2 sports station. Even under Citadel, KGA was a pale shell of its former self. There are two other news-talkers in the market with arguably better signals - CC's KQNT 590 (5 kW ND-U) and Morgan Murphy's KXLY 920 (20 kW D/5 kW N ND-U) - so Spokane will continue to have lots of local service for a market its size. s From scott@fybush.com Sun Apr 6 21:43:43 2008 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 21:43:43 -0400 Subject: CBA last night reminder Message-ID: <47F97C4F.9000802@fybush.com> Two hours and change until CBA's last-night DX test (1 AM ADT/12 AM EDT), and then the final CBA signoff comes at 7 AM ADT/6 AM EDT. I'm hoping conditions are decent enough here to hear the last moments of CBA before I head for the airport in the morning; if anyone in New England with a better signal can get a better recording, I'd love to hear it... s From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Apr 6 21:43:34 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:43:34 -0400 Subject: KGA night app In-Reply-To: <380-2200841713815855@ix.netcom.com> References: <380-2200841713815855@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <18425.31814.992257.49297@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > guess I need some education - I look via AM Query, > then under CDBS, "Application Info", but there's no technical exhibits. > including in "View Correspondence Folder" > help? (not to interfere with your trip) Use the "application search" and search for KGA. The very first application listed is BP-20070905AAK, which was filed electronically. In the rightmost column, there are two links, "Info" and "Details". "Info" is usually uninformative. For e-filed applications, the "Application" link shows you the actual FCC form which was filed, including any attachments or other technical exhibits (scroll all the way down to the bottom). For KGA, the interesting one is Attachment 11, which is labeled "KGA Exhibit 11, Form 301$III-A, 08/30/07", which justifies the proposal in detail. -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Sun Apr 6 21:49:53 2008 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:49:53 -0400 Subject: KGA night app In-Reply-To: <18425.31814.992257.49297@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <380-2200841713815855@ix.netcom.com> <18425.31814.992257.49297@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <18425.32193.480423.970145@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < In the rightmost column, there are two links, "Info" and "Details". > "Info" is usually uninformative. OK, it's obviously getting too late for me already. That should read "Info" and "Application". "Application" is the link that has all the juicy details. -GAWollman From madprof@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 21:50:39 2008 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:50:39 -0400 Subject: RE2: KGA night app Message-ID: <380-2200841715039964@ix.netcom.com> correction, & think I found the answer.... AM Query, then under CDBS, "CDBS search", fill in KGA ID, etc, leading to a page of KGA applications, click on the 9-06-2007 which links to Application, which, scroll way down to "exhibits" and exhibit 1.....which explains a interaction betwee KGA & KPIG, Piedmont Ca. think I never did a seek like this before. thank you Bob > > > [Original Message] > > From: Garrett Wollman > > To: > > Cc: BRI > > Date: 4/6/2008 9:19:20 PM > > Subject: KGA night app > > > > < said: > > > > > Does anyone have hunches, clue, or inside info > > > on why they would do this? > > > > It's all spelled out in the first technical exhibit to their > > application, which you can find in CDBS. > > > > -GAWollman From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sun Apr 6 21:43:35 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:43:35 -0400 Subject: KGA night app In-Reply-To: <8bce0fe80804061842s69486ac4v2dd0d0939a1d3016@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-2200841713815855@ix.netcom.com> <8bce0fe80804061842s69486ac4v2dd0d0939a1d3016@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80804061843r5eb016f7k9633b19674814fc9@mail.gmail.com> > Here you go: > > > http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?context=25&appn=101202626&formid=301&fac_num=11234 > > Paul Walker > www.realradiousa.com > > > > On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Robert F. Sutherland < > madprof@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > guess I need some education - I look via AM Query, > > then under CDBS, "Application Info", but there's no technical exhibits. > > including in "View Correspondence Folder" > > help? (not to interfere with your trip) > > > > Thanks > > Bob > > > > -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. http://www.realradiousa.com http://www.theradiogod.com http://www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Sun Apr 6 17:13:45 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 17:13:45 -0400 Subject: Moderator vacation In-Reply-To: <18425.15237.643928.257070@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <18425.15237.643928.257070@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80804061413g1662827co65aac152f6fdfe5e@mail.gmail.com> I hope you enjoy your vacation! However, mail that gets checked only once a day for messages on this list is going to stiffle discussion quite a bit. Paul Walker www.realradiousa.com On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Your humble moderator is taking a vacation in Southern California and > Nevada starting way too early tomorrow morning and running through the > the 16th. Incoming mail which requires moderator attention will be > handled once a day (if even that frequently). > > -GAWollman > From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Sun Apr 6 23:55:38 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 23:55:38 -0400 Subject: The Bright Lights Of Downtown Lawrence In-Reply-To: <618437A0CF1F4747842F220D31F2ACF5@ThomPC> References: <20080406180954.7B13E478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> <618437A0CF1F4747842F220D31F2ACF5@ThomPC> Message-ID: <47F99B3A.9080608@ttlc.net> Thomas Whetston wrote: > As far away as humanly possible, when I was a lowly partimer in the > 80s, the > back door facing the parking lot would never close correctly. So > since there was heat > and benches inside we'd have the opportunity to meet a lot of the > downtown Lawrence > illuminati. > > It was the only place I ever worked where big guys would ask if I'd > walk them to their > car. > > Lawrence was always an adventure. I've seen many 3rd world *holes and > it was one. That was back in the 80's. So much has changed since then. You might not recognize it now. They're even talking about making Essex Street two-way again. From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Apr 7 00:38:13 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:38:13 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning In-Reply-To: <4fc429770804061311i421f0860h72d0e16ae44e1626@mail.gmail.com> References: <47F91807.6000306@Gmail.com>, <4fc429770804061311i421f0860h72d0e16ae44e1626@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F96CF5.12062.6FAF00@joe.attorneyross.com> On 6 Apr 2008 at 16:11, Kevin Vahey wrote: > I use to listen to Hockey Night in Canada on CBA as it came in much > better than CBM and CBL. I used to like to listen to CBC's evening programming, sometimes on CBA and sometimes on CBM or CBL. CBA was an hour earlier, being in the Atlantic time zone. Sometimes I would listen to something on CBA and then listen again on CBL or CBM. Usually CBL came in better. CBA's sign-off, shortly after midnight local time, 11 PM our time, was one of my favorites. They would give the Canadian and US weather (in those days, it wasn't "Environment Canada," it was the "Dominion Public Weather Office") and then they'd play "O Canada" followed by :"God Save the Queen." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Apr 7 00:38:13 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:38:13 -0400 Subject: Gene Jones In-Reply-To: <014c01c89847$d29e5170$0202a8c0@Mark> References: , <014c01c89847$d29e5170$0202a8c0@Mark> Message-ID: <47F96CF5.20305.6FAFDB@joe.attorneyross.com> On 6 Apr 2008 at 20:39, Mark Watson wrote: > > (I even remember Tommy Rettig, the first boy who was on "Lassie." I > > can't recall the name of the character he played, though.) > > Jeff was his character name. "Jeff's Collie" was one of several > programs > that came to us on film on WMUR-TV Channel 9, Manchester either before > or after Uncle Gus. "Jeff's Collie" was the name of "Lassie" in syndication. For some reason, in the 1950s, when reruns of a network program went into syndication, while the network show was still runnng, it had to have a different title. So we had "Badge 714" , "Foreign Legionnaire" (Captain Gallant of the Foreign Legion), "Mayberry RFD" (Andy Griffith Show), and "Make Room for Daddy" (Danny Thomas Show). This last was the show's original network title, but the network title had been changed by the time the earlier shows went into syndication. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Apr 7 00:38:14 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:38:14 -0400 Subject: AC Hum problem In-Reply-To: <47F814AC.27231.737DBC@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <47F814AC.27231.737DBC@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <47F96CF6.2924.6FB104@joe.attorneyross.com> Thanks to everyone who answered by AC Hum question, on and off the list. I can't think of any changes to the system since I last used this patch cord. I've tried reversing a few plugs, the few that aren't polarized, and that didn't help. I'm going to try the suggestion of running an extension and operating the stereo from the same circuit as the computer. The plugs on the patch cord are old-style large-size stereo earphone plugs and jacks, so that the cord plugs into the earphone jack on my stereo. There's a patch cord connected to my sound card that has a smaller plug on one end to connect to the sound card and a larger plug on the other end to plug into the jack at the end of the patch cord -- which is actually two patch cords connected together, because that's what I need to cover the distance. I've tried wiggling all the connections. No dice. Part of the problem is that I can't quite hear the hum from the computer speakers when I'm in the livingroom. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dave@skywaves.net Mon Apr 7 01:15:25 2008 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 01:15:25 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning References: <47F91807.6000306@Gmail.com> <4fc429770804061311i421f0860h72d0e16ae44e1626@mail.gmail.com><034d01c8982c$b9326610$6401a8c0@DougDrown> <47F942FC.2000403@fybush.com> Message-ID: <002101c8986e$63265460$336ba8c0@skywaves.net> Hi, all- I went out into the driveway and sat in my wife's car from 12:50 to 1:05. Network programming from Calgary, then a couple of promos (mentioning that the times in Newfoundland would be a half hour earlier) and then news. There was no 1AM station ID, but the Newfoundland references would seem to nail the signal as CBA. -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. Worcester, MA 01603 508-425-7176 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Doug Drown" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" ; "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning > Doug Drown wrote: >>> So how many AM signals does CBC have left? >> 1550 in Windsor, ON is still operating. >> CBC One also has a fairly sizeable network of small-town AM outlets as >> well, that help provide coverage in areas where the larger FMs don't come >> in especially well. Lac Megantic, QC, has a CBC One station on 1240 kHz. >> St. Stephen, NB has one on 990. McAdam on 600. AFAIK those are going to >> continue. I'm not certain of their power output, but I'm guessing they >> operate at not more than 100 watts. > > There are two more sizable AM signals remaining in the east in addition to > CBE in Windsor. CBI 1140 in Sydney NS has a permit to move to FM but > hasn't built yet. CBN 640 in St. John's NL hasn't (yet) applied to move to > FM. > > Out west, the CBC seems to prefer "nesting" city FM signals within > wide-coverage AMs. So the AMs in Edmonton, Calgary, Regina and Winnipeg > remain on the air, but with relatively low-power (class A or equivalent) > FMs serving urban audiences as a simulcast. > > CBU Vancouver, 50 kW on 690, has applied to move to FM but is fighting > many commercial applicants for the frequency. > > s > > From chris2526@comcast.net Mon Apr 7 01:29:02 2008 From: chris2526@comcast.net (chris2526) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 01:29:02 -0400 Subject: WLLH Lawrence is back! Message-ID: <000601c89870$4ac6f0d0$03f6764c@Chicken159> WLLH Lawrence returned to the air at full power late this afternoon. As it turns out there is absolutely no sign of interaction between the two signals any more and believe me I drove around back and forth through the spots that you could hear a minor blip after the carriers were locked by GPS over 10 years ago. The Lowell transmitter was a Harris SX-1 installed in 1985, I replaced the Lawrence RCA BTA-1-R in 1995. Harris was well into the Gates ONE by that time, due to the syncronous nature of the station I prevailed upon Harris to build me another SX-1. The best they could do was come up with enough parts to give me an SX-1A and that was the best they could do.. I thought the 99% elimination of the two carrier interactions was as good as it could ever get but it appears that using two identical Harris DAX-1's pretty much eliminated the last 1%. Synchronous AM it seems is pretty much perfected but very careful attention must be paid to the audio, that is why it runs up a T-1 from Boston to Wood Hill in Andover where the Optimod 9200 feeds a composite STL feeding one dish that points to Lowell which is the tougher path. Lawrence which is line of sight get plenty of signal off the back of the Scala Paraflector. The original scheme used a splitter into 2 Scalas but by accident having to use a single dish due to ice damage 10 years ago I was delighted to hear further reduction of the interaction. When I took over during the Big band days on Church St. the station was running a one hope mono RF STL to Lowell with one Optimod 9000 at the transmitter and a two hop RF STL with a second Optimod 9000 at the Lawrence transmitter and things sounded just as bad as you would expect using a setup like this. I grew up in Salem, Ma in the 50's and loved WLLH but had to listen to WLLH-FM as I'm sure many of you remember the horrific ( I call it rolling phasing ) that plagued WLLH everywhere but in center Lowell and center Lawrence. In those day they used a creation made by Western Electric that physically adjusted the frequencies to keep them locked together by motor drives similar to the FM frequency control on the very early RCA FM exciters with the small scope built in Later the two RCA's used an expensive Irridium standard oscillator on each transmitter that was marginally better. Still a few loose ends to tie up but IT"s BAAAACK! Chris Hall From rac@gabrielmass.com Mon Apr 7 01:36:40 2008 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 01:36:40 -0400 Subject: [B-R-I] 1.070 CBA Moncton Signing Off (For Good) Mon Morning In-Reply-To: <002101c8986e$63265460$336ba8c0@skywaves.net> References: <47F91807.6000306@Gmail.com> <4fc429770804061311i421f0860h72d0e16ae44e1626@mail.gmail.com><034d01c8982c$b9326610$6401a8c0@DougDrown> <47F942FC.2000403@fybush.com> <002101c8986e$63265460$336ba8c0@skywaves.net> Message-ID: <47F9B2E8.4060800@gabrielmass.com> Dave Doherty wrote: > I went out into the driveway and sat in my wife's car from 12:50 to > 1:05. Network programming from Calgary, then a couple of promos > (mentioning that the times in Newfoundland would be a half hour earlier) > and then news. There was no 1AM station ID, but the Newfoundland > references would seem to nail the signal as CBA. Well, you're probably right about the station being CBA, but the promos by themselves aren't proof. Promos aired in other provinces routinely mention the NF time difference too. --RC From thomas.whetston@gmail.com Mon Apr 7 00:05:02 2008 From: thomas.whetston@gmail.com (Thomas Whetston) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 23:05:02 -0500 Subject: The Bright Lights Of Downtown Lawrence In-Reply-To: <47F99B3A.9080608@ttlc.net> References: <20080406180954.7B13E478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> <618437A0CF1F4747842F220D31F2ACF5@ThomPC> <47F99B3A.9080608@ttlc.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Roger Kirk wrote: > > > Thomas Whetston wrote: > > > As far away as humanly possible, when I was a lowly partimer in the 80s, > > the > > back door facing the parking lot would never close correctly. So since > > there was heat > > and benches inside we'd have the opportunity to meet a lot of the > > downtown Lawrence > > > > They're even talking about making Essex Street two-way again. > > You mean people want to go TO Lawrence now? Wow. One of the best times I ever had in the business was working for Cheryl Anne but Lawrence really was something after dark -- Thomas Whetston CompTIA A+ technician thomas.whetston@army.com http://scnradio.bravehost.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Apr 7 08:19:49 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:19:49 -0400 Subject: KGA night app References: <380-220084171151714@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <000b01c898a9$b05737a0$25efa644@SatU205S5044> The reason is quite simple. KGA and KPIG (AM), licensed to Piedmont CA near Oakland, are co-owned (by a company named Mapleton Communications, which purchased KPIG only recently, with the idea of upgrading it). KPIG currently runs 230W-N into a five-element DA atop a warehouse near the water's edge in Oakland. (AFAIK, this is the only rooftop DA in the US.) Despite the salt-water path to downtown San Francisco, there is no way that, at 230W, KPIG delivers an NIF signal to San Francisco. Mapleton wants to cover SF around the clock (KPIG runs 8 kW days but still cannot cover much of the Bay area south of SF because there is a 1500 station (I think it's 10 kW-D/5 kW-N) in San Jose at the south end of the Bay.) By downgrading KGA from a Class A to a Class B, KPIG is relieved of severe protection requirements to the north and will be able to increase its night power 10-fold and remove the fifth element from its night array. (Note my use of the word element, rather than tower. The fifth element is a drop wire suspended from a horizontal wire that joins the tops of two of the four real towers.) Powering down KGA and changing its directional pattern will reduce the skywave signal it delivers to the Bay area, thus reducing KPIG's NIF value and ensuring that much of the population of San Francisco officially becomes part of the population KPIG serves at night. Meanwhile, the downgrade of KGA is a bit less Draconian that that of WOWO a decade or so ago. WOWO's transmitter site is mostly west of Fort Wayne and quite a few miles from the east edge of that city. WLIB is due east of Fort Wayne. This situation required a compromise. WOWO had to reduce its signal to the east to allow WLIB's night operation to deliver an NIF signal to 80% of New York's five boroughs. Yet, using its existing three towers (but with a new night pattern), WOWO had to deliver 5 mV/m at night to at least 80% of Fort Wayne. WLIB also had to protect CHTN to its northeast. Because WLIB was able to go to 30 kW at night (using four towers, two of which were used in the existing 10-kW day array, which was not changed),WOWO's 9.8 kW night operation just managed to meet both criteria. Notwithstanding that WOWO's night signal to the east is now equivalent to only about 2 kW ND (vs more than 100 kW before the downgrade), WLIB's NIF is in the neighborhood of 15 mV/m and AFAIK, WOWO is the sole contributor. In contrast, KGA will have to protect to its south and, fortuitously, its transmitter site (a diplex with KJRB) is south of Spokane. A side benefit of the KGA downgrade is that several 1510 stations south of KPIG will enjoy significant improvements in their night coverage. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert F. Sutherland" To: "BRI" Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 9:15 PM Subject: KGA night app >I loaded the FCC application data, night 15kw, 4 towers, parameters, >etc, > and ran a plot / calculation. > They are proposing severely cutting their coverage! > Yes, Spokane would still be well covered, but I doubt western WA > or previously covered parts of BC would still recieve a usable > signal at > night. > And virtually all signal to the east will be gone. > > Does anyone have hunches, clue, or inside info > on why they would do this? > > Is it a sign of the times, re IBOS & skywave becoming considered > useless? > > Or is it a case similar to when WLIB bought WOWO, and > grossly cut WOWO's night pattern so that WLIB could increase > its own pattern? > > Whatever, it's sad when a legacy AM station proposes > > Bo > From markwa1ion@aol.com Mon Apr 7 14:11:05 2008 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:11:05 -0400 Subject: WLIB/WOWO-1190 (was: KGA night app) Message-ID: <8CA66F1E1AB7441-294-101@webmail-md13.sysops.aol.com> << Dan S. said - WLIB's NIF is in the neighborhood of 15 mV/m and AFAIK, WOWO is the sole contributor. >> Just from recent listening (admittedly from MA, not NY) I'm thinking that the IBOC (a.k.a. HD) upper sideband from Rochester's WHAM-1180 is doing a lot more damage to WLIB at night than "defanged" WOWO possibly can. Not sure how the 1190 Annapolis station factors in or, for that matter, IBOC from 1200 kHz stations (and WPHT-1210 ?). There's also an off-channel Colombian on 1190.33 (give or take) that can produce a low rumble, but that's only likely an issue well out onto Long Island in south side beach communities. Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Apr 7 14:50:32 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:50:32 -0400 Subject: WLIB/WOWO-1190 (was: KGA night app) References: <8CA66F1E1AB7441-294-101@webmail-md13.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000c01c898e0$4363f660$25efa644@SatU205S5044> I believe that 1190 in Annapolis is dark and that the CP to move it to the WWLG 1360 six-tower night site (geographically, the former WCBM 680 four-tower site, slightly northWEST of Baltimore) has been turned in. The owners of the Annapolis station also own WAGE 1200 in Leesburg VA, which they want to upgrade to 50 kW-D (and I'm not sure what, if anything, at night). I believe that the 1190 station, with its Baltimore coverage, is being sacrificed to enable the upgrade of WAGE, which, with the higher daytime power, will become a DC rimshot (by day, anyhow). ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:11 PM Subject: WLIB/WOWO-1190 (was: KGA night app) > << > Dan S. said - > WLIB's NIF is in the neighborhood of 15 mV/m and AFAIK, WOWO is the > sole contributor. >>> > > Just from recent listening (admittedly from MA, not NY) I'm thinking > that the IBOC (a.k.a. HD) upper sideband from Rochester's WHAM-1180 > is doing a lot more damage to WLIB at night than "defanged" WOWO > possibly can. > > Not sure how the 1190 Annapolis station factors in or, for that > matter, IBOC from 1200 kHz stations (and WPHT-1210 ?). > > There's also an off-channel Colombian on 1190.33 (give or take) that > can produce a low rumble, but that's only likely an issue well out > onto Long Island in south side beach communities. > > Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Mon Apr 7 15:05:34 2008 From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 15:05:34 -0400 Subject: WLIB/WOWO-1190 (was: KGA night app) In-Reply-To: <000c01c898e0$4363f660$25efa644@SatU205S5044> References: <8CA66F1E1AB7441-294-101@webmail-md13.sysops.aol.com> <000c01c898e0$4363f660$25efa644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <8bce0fe80804071205j1c31dbf8nb10bdd3002a40d29@mail.gmail.com> If WBIS 1190 is silent, it hasn't been reported to the FCC. Is WBIS owned b ythe folks who have WUST 1120 and WNWR 1540? I think so.. Paul Walker www.realradiousa.com On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I believe that 1190 in Annapolis is dark and that the CP to move it to > the WWLG 1360 six-tower night site (geographically, the former WCBM > 680 four-tower site, slightly northWEST of Baltimore) has been turned > in. The owners of the Annapolis station also own WAGE 1200 in Leesburg > VA, which they want to upgrade to 50 kW-D (and I'm not sure what, if > anything, at night). I believe that the 1190 station, with its > Baltimore coverage, is being sacrificed to enable the upgrade of WAGE, > which, with the higher daytime power, will become a DC rimshot (by > day, anyhow). From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Apr 7 16:02:04 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 16:02:04 -0400 Subject: WLIB/WOWO-1190 (was: KGA night app) References: <8CA66F1E1AB7441-294-101@webmail-md13.sysops.aol.com><000c01c898e0$4363f660$25efa644@SatU205S5044> <8bce0fe80804071205j1c31dbf8nb10bdd3002a40d29@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000701c898ea$4275ba40$25efa644@SatU205S5044> We'll see. I cced a friend in the DC area who is generally quite plugged into such things. He should answer in due course. Unless he says he doesn't know the current status, I would take what he says more seriously than what you might have found in an FCC database. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." To: Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 3:05 PM Subject: Re: WLIB/WOWO-1190 (was: KGA night app) > If WBIS 1190 is silent, it hasn't been reported to the FCC. > > Is WBIS owned b ythe folks who have WUST 1120 and WNWR 1540? I think > so.. > > Paul Walker > www.realradiousa.com > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Dan.Strassberg > > wrote: > >> I believe that 1190 in Annapolis is dark and that the CP to move it >> to >> the WWLG 1360 six-tower night site (geographically, the former WCBM >> 680 four-tower site, slightly northWEST of Baltimore) has been >> turned >> in. The owners of the Annapolis station also own WAGE 1200 in >> Leesburg >> VA, which they want to upgrade to 50 kW-D (and I'm not sure what, >> if >> anything, at night). I believe that the 1190 station, with its >> Baltimore coverage, is being sacrificed to enable the upgrade of >> WAGE, >> which, with the higher daytime power, will become a DC rimshot (by >> day, anyhow). From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Apr 8 02:14:04 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:14:04 -0400 Subject: WLLH Lawrence is back! In-Reply-To: <000601c89870$4ac6f0d0$03f6764c@Chicken159> References: <000601c89870$4ac6f0d0$03f6764c@Chicken159> Message-ID: <47FAD4EC.18409.A179F3@joe.attorneyross.com> On 7 Apr 2008 at 1:29, chris2526 wrote: > WLLH Lawrence returned to the air at full power late this afternoon. > As it turns out there is absolutely no sign of interaction between the > two signals any more and believe me I drove around back and forth > through the spots that you could hear a minor blip after the carriers > were locked by GPS over 10 years ago. Congratulations! And thanks for all the updates. It's been fascinating reading. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@comcast.net Tue Apr 8 16:17:58 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:17:58 -0400 Subject: Is that Lobel? Message-ID: <4fc429770804081317k733e1dc3i19e856f583cdd8a3@mail.gmail.com> Is that Bob Lobel sitting directly behind home plate in the first row next to Dennis Drinkwater from Giant Glass? From rcarpen@toast.net Mon Apr 7 16:52:13 2008 From: rcarpen@toast.net (r j carpenter) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:52:13 -0400 Subject: WLIB/WOWO-1190 In-Reply-To: <000c01c898e0$4363f660$25efa644@SatU205S5044> References: <8CA66F1E1AB7441-294-101@webmail-md13.sysops.aol.com> <000c01c898e0$4363f660$25efa644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <47FA897D.30504@toast.net> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > I believe that 1190 in Annapolis is dark and that the CP to move it > to the WWLG 1360 six-tower night site (geographically, the former > WCBM 680 four-tower site, slightly northWEST of Baltimore) has been > turned in. You are probably correct. > The owners of the Annapolis station also own WAGE 1200 in Leesburg > VA, which they want to upgrade to 50 kW-D (and I'm not sure what, if > anything, at night). 1.3 kW, from the old site IIRC. > I believe that the 1190 station, with its Baltimore coverage, is > being sacrificed to enable the upgrade of WAGE, which, with the > higher daytime power, will become a DC rimshot (by day, anyhow). I suppose they feel that the high-income Loudoun and Fairfax counties are worth the Baltimore sacrifice. They'll probably be good in Montgomery Co, MD, as well. All daytime, no significant increased coverage at night has been proposed AFAIK. Maybe they will try for more night power once the day is on. bob c. From p_hopfgarten@comcast.net Mon Apr 7 21:01:49 2008 From: p_hopfgarten@comcast.net (p_hopfgarten@comcast.net) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 01:01:49 +0000 Subject: KRLD 1080 Dallas Message-ID: <040820080101.27226.47FAC3FD00015E8200006A5A2216566276020A9B9D0E09009F0108A19F@comcast.net> In Texas this week and LO AND BEHOLD....Dana Hersey is the Voiceover guy for KRLD 1080 in Dallas.... Funny hearing the old TV38 Movie Loft guy on a Dallas station... -Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH (Temporarily Temple TX) From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed Apr 9 17:24:43 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:24:43 -0400 Subject: Mentioning Call Letters On BZ Message-ID: <47FD341B.8020001@ttlc.net> This morning, in a taped interview with Paul Sullivan's widow, she mentioned the names of personalities and call letters of a Boston (non-CBS) radio station - and wasn't bleeped. She said "Eagan & Braude (sp?) on TKK" I can't find their names on the TKK Web Site. From nostaticatall@charter.net Wed Apr 9 18:31:50 2008 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 18:31:50 -0400 Subject: Mentioning Call Letters On BZ In-Reply-To: <47FD341B.8020001@ttlc.net> References: <47FD341B.8020001@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <006953C8-20B6-494F-9649-9F0F62726DCE@charter.net> Jim Braude and Marjorie Egan continue to do their midday show on WTKK. The station is now marketing the duo as "Jim & Marjorie" instead of "Eagan & Braude." -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Apr 9, 2008, at 5:24 PM, Roger Kirk wrote: > This morning, in a taped interview with Paul Sullivan's widow, she > mentioned the names of personalities and call letters of a Boston > (non-CBS) radio station - and wasn't bleeped. > > She said "Eagan & Braude (sp?) on TKK" > > I can't find their names on the TKK Web Site. > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Wed Apr 9 21:19:56 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 18:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: KRLD 1080 Dallas In-Reply-To: <040820080101.27226.47FAC3FD00015E8200006A5A2216566276020A9B9D0E09009F0108A19F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <886012.20417.qm@web55310.mail.re4.yahoo.com> --- p_hopfgarten@comcast.net wrote: > In Texas this week and LO AND BEHOLD....Dana Hersey > is the Voiceover guy for KRLD 1080 in Dallas.... Wise-cracks and all...? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed Apr 9 22:22:59 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:22:59 -0400 Subject: Mentioning Call Letters On BZ In-Reply-To: <006953C8-20B6-494F-9649-9F0F62726DCE@charter.net> References: <47FD341B.8020001@ttlc.net> <006953C8-20B6-494F-9649-9F0F62726DCE@charter.net> Message-ID: <47FD7A03.1070909@ttlc.net> Thanks. But why would BZ allow the mention? Normally, they err on the side of caution. David Tomm wrote: > Jim Braude and Marjorie Egan continue to do their midday show on > WTKK. The station is now marketing the duo as "Jim & Marjorie" > instead of "Eagan & Braude." > > -Dave Tomm > "Mike Thomas" > > > On Apr 9, 2008, at 5:24 PM, Roger Kirk wrote: > >> This morning, in a taped interview with Paul Sullivan's widow, she >> mentioned the names of personalities and call letters of a Boston >> (non-CBS) radio station - and wasn't bleeped. >> >> She said "Eagan & Braude (sp?) on TKK" >> >> I can't find their names on the TKK Web Site. >> > > > From revdoug1@verizon.net Wed Apr 9 23:36:14 2008 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:36:14 -0400 Subject: Guess who's gonna be a newscaster? Message-ID: <008a01c89abc$07bc4fd0$6401a8c0@DougDrown> The New York Radio Message Board reports tonight (4/9) that none other than Mitt Romney is going to be filling in for Paul Harvey on Harvey's daily broadcast tomorrow. Harvey has been recovering from illness since February, but is expected back on the air by the 25th. -Doug From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Apr 10 00:48:11 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:48:11 -0400 Subject: (Fwd) Re: AC Hum problem Message-ID: <47FD63CB.7789.826950@joe.attorneyross.com> On 8 Apr 2008 at 2:57, thomas heathwood wrote: > Hi Joe- Sounds to me like the "combination" patch cord you have may > be the problem. The phone plug from your stereo to an extension to > another patch cord that terminates in a mini plug sounds suspicious > to me. Adapting from different "extension" formats can give one > headaches. Try U DO IT or RADIO SHACK for a sindle extension that > starts with a male phone plug and ends with a male mini-plug. Tom > Heathwood 4/9/08 That's where I got my patch cords. There's no single patch cord that's as long as I need with the right plugs. But I don't really think the patch cords are the problem, or I could have affected it by all the jiggling I did. I've been given a lot of other things to try, and as soon as I can get some time, I'm going to try them. And thanks to everyone who's been so helpful. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Apr 10 00:48:12 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:48:12 -0400 Subject: Licensed to non-actual locations In-Reply-To: <001901c86487$2dba8460$346ba8c0@skywaves.net> References: <004501c8640a$e10ff8b0$79f8a742@SatU205S5044>, <001901c86487$2dba8460$346ba8c0@skywaves.net> Message-ID: <47FD63CC.31477.826DC5@joe.attorneyross.com> On 31 Jan 2008 at 23:01, Dave Doherty wrote: > North Pole was a community that (a) met the definition of a community, > (b) met the distance separation requirements that existed at the time > the allocation was moved, and (c) was within the radius the FCC > allowed at the time to move a city of license, maybe 15 miles.. I thought North Pole, New York was a theme park, complete with Santa and his workshop. I seem to remember seeing something about it on TV when I lived in the Albany area in the mid-1950s. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From paul@derrynh.net Thu Apr 10 01:39:29 2008 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:39:29 -0400 Subject: KRLD 1080 Dallas In-Reply-To: <886012.20417.qm@web55310.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <019101c89acd$3f252030$9dbd3f18@YOURF7ED5FB036> No, seemed pretty straight forward. -Paul Hopfgarten Now back in Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donald A. Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:20 PM To: p_hopfgarten@comcast.net; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org; markwa1ion@aol.com Subject: Re: KRLD 1080 Dallas --- p_hopfgarten@comcast.net wrote: > In Texas this week and LO AND BEHOLD....Dana Hersey > is the Voiceover guy for KRLD 1080 in Dallas.... Wise-cracks and all...? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From chris2526@comcast.net Fri Apr 11 02:26:15 2008 From: chris2526@comcast.net (chris2526) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:26:15 -0400 Subject: WLLH early evening problem Message-ID: <003201c89b9c$f2239200$03f6764c@Chicken159> If anyone noticed something strange listening to WLLH late afternoon / early evening, it was failure of the WLLH Lawrence Composite STL receiver front end. While driving home on I-93 about 7:00 PM as I passed route 125 I punched the WLLH button and got all kinds of audio phasing in and out. My first thought was that one of the external GPS referenced oscillators unlocked on decided to take a little stroll. By the time I hit Dascomb Rd. it was clear that one of carriers was on without audio... but which one? As I passed 495 it was pretty obvious that the audio failed in Lawrence which was now very close with little audio the closer I got. I was able to rule out the failure of the PA stage of the STL transmitter at Wood Hill in Andover, years ago the PA output stage failed and would only put out ony 1/4 watt. Lowell even with an Annixter Marl 6 foot receive dish has very poor path that skirts the top of another hill and never gets more than a marginal signal At 1/4 watt Lawrence with a 3 mile line of site path still received a very strong signal but even with the receiver squelch full open Lowell was DOA When working properly Lawrence might possible work with a paper clip for an antenna! As it tured out the Lawrence receivers front end amp failed, because the receive signal has always been so strong I had to use the 10 DB pad. Its functioning with the stage patched around with the squelch fully open, it seems to be getting enough signal to work OK until another receiver is sent out. At least to this point so far so good....I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Chris Hall From dave@skywaves.net Sat Apr 12 19:13:54 2008 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:13:54 -0400 Subject: Licensed to non-actual locations References: <004501c8640a$e10ff8b0$79f8a742@SatU205S5044>, <001901c86487$2dba8460$346ba8c0@skywaves.net> <47FD63CC.31477.826DC5@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <000301c89cf2$e13429d0$336ba8c0@skywaves.net> Hi Joe- North Pole is an amusement park. I visited the place once with my kids. But it is also the name of a USGS place where a few people live, just outside the park. It is a part of Wilmington, perhaps best known as the home of Whiteface Mountain. In fact, North Pole is on the Whiteface Mountain Highway. North Pole is not a Census Designated Place (CDP). It is not listed at all with the Census Bureau. It probably has no local governance. All-in-all, it would probably not qualify for licensing today. -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. Worcester, MA 508-425-7176 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Dave Doherty" Cc: "Dan.Strassberg" ; Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Licensed to non-actual locations > On 31 Jan 2008 at 23:01, Dave Doherty wrote: > >> North Pole was a community that (a) met the definition of a community, >> (b) met the distance separation requirements that existed at the time >> the allocation was moved, and (c) was within the radius the FCC >> allowed at the time to move a city of license, maybe 15 miles.. > > I thought North Pole, New York was a theme park, complete with Santa > and his workshop. I seem to remember seeing something about it on TV > when I lived in the Albany area in the mid-1950s. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Apr 12 21:27:13 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:27:13 -0500 Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks Message-ID: <20080413012713.2037D49B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> After a two hour rain delay, Jonathan Papelbon comes on to shut down the Yankees. There are two outs in the top of the ninth, Sox up by one--and suddenly the picture on Fox switches to NASCAR auto racing. The announcer informs viewers after a minute or two that the end of the Red Sox-Yankees game is on "our sister network, FX". Viewers fumble for their remotes (apparently Fox didn't consider a split screen?) and try to figure out where the heck FX is. Those without cable realize they are missing the end of an exciting game and where the heck is that radio (assuming they live within range of a Red Sox or Yankees radio network station) Forget that football game--we now proudly present "Heidi": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Game ("But millions of American football fans were unable to see Oakland's comeback.") From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Apr 12 21:44:35 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:44:35 -0400 Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks In-Reply-To: <20080413012713.2037D49B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080413012713.2037D49B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <88A6E39565D749C6984C769A46ABDBD2@DanBillingsPC> I was surprised that Fox went back to the game at all. As soon as they did, I thought something like this might happen. They should have just put it on FX. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 9:27 PM Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks After a two hour rain delay, Jonathan Papelbon comes on to shut down the Yankees. There are two outs in the top of the ninth, Sox up by one--and suddenly the picture on Fox switches to NASCAR auto racing. The announcer informs viewers after a minute or two that the end of the Red Sox-Yankees game is on "our sister network, FX". Viewers fumble for their remotes (apparently Fox didn't consider a split screen?) and try to figure out where the heck FX is. Those without cable realize they are missing the end of an exciting game and where the heck is that radio (assuming they live within range of a Red Sox or Yankees radio network station) Forget that football game--we now proudly present "Heidi": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Game ("But millions of American football fans were unable to see Oakland's comeback.") From markwats@comcast.net Sat Apr 12 21:46:09 2008 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:46:09 -0400 Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks References: <20080413012713.2037D49B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <009401c89d08$25a8d560$0202a8c0@Mark> Bob Nelson wrote: > After a two hour rain delay, Jonathan Papelbon comes onto > shut down the > Yankees. There are two outs in > the top of the ninth, Sox up by one--and suddenly the >picture on Fox > switches to NASCAR auto racing. As Fox was promoting all afternoon during the Sox-Yankees game, the NASCAR race coverage was scheduled for an 8PM Eastern start. Obviously the 2 + hour rain delay is something that can't be predicted in advance. When the game was halted Fox shifted to the other game of the week they were carrying, Arizona/Colorado, which was in the 9th inning and was over not long after it was joined. I had some other stuff to tend to in the house, and when I was channel surfing just after 8, I saw the NASCAR pre-race show on Fox, so I figured the Sox game had ended. A few minutes later, I was surprised to see the Sox game just resuming, with constant reminders that the NASCAR race will start after the game's conclusion. When the game was abruptly switched to NASCAR, the race had already started and was in the 2nd lap, which made it obvious NASCAR wasn't waiting for the Sox game to end and they just went ahead and dropped the green flag. Or did Fox tell NASCAR to start? Mark Watson From bradfordwood@comcast.net Sat Apr 12 21:49:37 2008 From: bradfordwood@comcast.net (bradfordwood@comcast.net) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:49:37 +0000 Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks Message-ID: <041320080149.13024.480166B10004BB86000032E022068150930C050303@comcast.net> In all fairness to us NASCAR fans - Joe Buck announced on numerous occasions during the simulcast on FOX and FX (as well as on screen graphics) that they would be bringing the start of the race at 8:53 and once that happens, the game would be switched over to FX...so it wasn't as sudden as you make it out to be (I'll agree it was might have been an abrupt cut, but it wasn't "suddenly" as in without warning...) Just goes to support the stat: NASCAR is the second most watched sport on television that FOX gave precedence to the race rather than to baseball...and it didn't hurt that Pap was 1 out away from wrapping it up for the hometown team. Then again - there's always the Fenway connection in NASCAR with Roush/Fenway Racing... ...rubbin's racin'! -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Bob Nelson" > After a two hour rain delay, Jonathan Papelbon comes on to shut down the > Yankees. There are two outs in > the top of the ninth, Sox up by one--and suddenly the picture on Fox switches to > NASCAR auto racing. > > The announcer informs viewers after a minute or two that the end of the Red > Sox-Yankees game is > on "our sister network, FX". Viewers fumble for their remotes (apparently Fox > didn't consider a > split screen?) and try to figure out where the heck FX is. Those without cable > realize they > are missing the end of an exciting game and where the heck is that radio > (assuming they live > within range of a Red Sox or Yankees radio network station) > > Forget that football game--we now proudly present "Heidi": > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Game > > ("But millions of American football fans were unable to see Oakland's > comeback.") From bradfordwood@comcast.net Sat Apr 12 21:54:01 2008 From: bradfordwood@comcast.net (bradfordwood@comcast.net) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:54:01 +0000 Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks Message-ID: <041320080154.21855.480167B9000CC7AB0000555F22068136130C050303@comcast.net> I'm pretty sure NASCAR dropped the flag without consulting FOX, as a matter of fact - I think it might have been just the opposite (FOX talking to NASCAR - which would explain the rough cut from game to race). Tonights race (without boring those non-fans) is a tough race as it is for timing - starts in the sunlight, ends under the night lights in Phoenix. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Mark Watson" > which made it obvious NASCAR wasn't waiting for the Sox game to end and > they just went ahead and dropped the green flag. Or did Fox tell NASCAR to > start? From mike@miscon.net Sat Apr 12 22:51:14 2008 From: mike@miscon.net (mike@miscon.net) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:51:14 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks In-Reply-To: <041320080154.21855.480167B9000CC7AB0000555F22068136130C050303@comcast .net> References: <041320080154.21855.480167B9000CC7AB0000555F22068136130C050303@comcast.net> Message-ID: <.65.96.208.107.1208055074.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> You mean you weren't listening to the RADIO broadcast? ; ) Me neither... what *did* the radio affiliates do during the rain delay? Mike From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Apr 12 22:55:05 2008 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:55:05 -0400 Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks In-Reply-To: <.65.96.208.107.1208055074.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Message-ID: <001e01c89d11$c6b8bde0$6400a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > Me neither... what *did* the radio affiliates do during the rain > delay? "Sox Talk" as usual. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Apr 12 23:24:06 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:24:06 -0500 Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks Message-ID: <20080413032406.2DF8E49B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Not all. WBOQ, as they've been known to do (especially in situations where the rain delay lasts for a couple HOURS) went to music. I understand Fox would have had to pay a big fine if the "green flag" wasn't shown. (Can't do split screen?) They may have said a couple times (I missed it) that it would switch to FX but when the switch happened, no announcement from the broadcasters at Fenway. It just switched all of a sudden. From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Apr 12 23:26:24 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:26:24 -0500 Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks Message-ID: <20080413032624.89C4C49B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> I was only half listening and thought they said they would go to NASCAR after the game ended; that NASCAR was holding up its start till the end of the game. That may have happened--they may have held up the start of the race for a few minutes but after awhile they just decided to go ahead with it and Fox had to ABRUPTLY switch to the race. From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 12 23:40:22 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:40:22 -0400 Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks In-Reply-To: <20080413012713.2037D49B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080413012713.2037D49B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <48014866.4537.2420CF5@joe.attorneyross.com> On 12 Apr 2008 at 20:27, Bob Nelson wrote: > The announcer informs viewers after a minute or two that the end of > the Red Sox-Yankees game is on "our sister network, FX". Viewers > fumble for their remotes (apparently Fox didn't consider a split > screen?) and try to figure out where the heck FX is. Those without > cable realize they are missing the end of an exciting game and where > the heck is that radio (assuming they live within range of a Red Sox > or Yankees radio network station) > > Forget that football game--we now proudly present "Heidi": > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Game According to the Wikipedia article, NFL contracts with the networks now require the game to be carried in full no matter what. I'm awfully surprised if MLB contracts don't contain a similar provision. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 12 23:40:22 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:40:22 -0400 Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks In-Reply-To: <009401c89d08$25a8d560$0202a8c0@Mark> References: <20080413012713.2037D49B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>, <009401c89d08$25a8d560$0202a8c0@Mark> Message-ID: <48014866.7660.2420E8B@joe.attorneyross.com> On 12 Apr 2008 at 21:46, Mark Watson wrote: > Obviously the 2 + hour rain delay is something that can't be > predicted in advance. No, but rain delays in baseball aren't all that unusual. Fox had to know that it could happen. And the weather report certainly suggested rain for today. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Apr 12 23:51:11 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:51:11 -0500 Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks Message-ID: <20080413035111.E55E249B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> In recent baseball playoffs there were situations like this: Game A (1 pm start) is on WTBS and is running late. Game B (4 pm start) is supposed to also run on WTBS. During Game A, they announce that the start of Game B will be on their sister station, TNT. Once Game A ends, Game B moves to WTBS. But this is a different situation: it involves the END of a game. NASCAR must have a lot of pull (and a contract stipulation). It could have been, "We will go to the NASCAR here on Fox when this game ends but you can see the start of the race right now on FX". That didn't happen. The abruptness of the switch-- no announcement saying, "We will now go to the NASCAR race but you can see the end of this game on FX" just before the flip--indicates that NASCAR may have volunteered to delay the start of its race a few minutes...but then they got restless and ordered Fox to pick up the start of its race, and NOW. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Apr 13 00:17:45 2008 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:17:45 -0400 Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks In-Reply-To: <20080413035111.E55E249B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080413035111.E55E249B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: I know the game was Red Sox-Yankees, but we are talking about an early season game. I am surprised Fox even had the game on after 8. I wonder how many people they lost who tuned in for the race and didn't find it. From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Apr 13 00:53:54 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:53:54 -0400 Subject: Hum problem solved Message-ID: <480159A2.14791.2855FF1@joe.attorneyross.com> The stereo and some other components are connected to an outlet strip which, instead of a three-prong plug, has a two-prong plug, plus a wire that is intended to be connected to the screw holding the outlet cover plate. It wasn't connected. I connected it, and everything works fine. What I don't understand is why it worked previously. If it was connected before and came undone, I would think the screw would have been looser than it was. I'll probably never know, but the problem is solved. Again, thanks to all who responded with their suggestions. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Apr 13 07:47:15 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:47:15 -0400 Subject: Hum problem solved References: <480159A2.14791.2855FF1@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <001001c89d5c$20674510$e0f8a742@SatU205S5044> If there is a green pigtail ground wire on the outlet strip's power cord and the pigtail wire has a spade lug on the end that you are supposed to place under the head of the screw that secures the cover plate to the wall outlet, the spade lug might have been touching the head of the screw. To do an effective job of reducing hum in audio equipment, the pigtail wire doesn't have to carry much current--maybe only microamperes. As a result, if the lug had merely been touching the screw head, it could have been sufficient for hum reduction--until something ever so slightly disturbed the ground wire's position. That's all it would take. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 12:53 AM Subject: Hum problem solved > The stereo and some other components are connected to an outlet > strip > which, instead of a three-prong plug, has a two-prong plug, plus a > wire that is intended to be connected to the screw holding the > outlet > cover plate. It wasn't connected. I connected it, and everything > works fine. > > What I don't understand is why it worked previously. If it was > connected before and came undone, I would think the screw would have > been looser than it was. I'll probably never know, but the problem > is solved. > > Again, thanks to all who responded with their suggestions. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From bradfordwood@comcast.net Sun Apr 13 08:12:11 2008 From: bradfordwood@comcast.net (bradfordwood@comcast.net) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:12:11 +0000 Subject: NASCAR trumps end of Sox-Yanks Message-ID: <041320081212.19711.4801F89B000A32E800004CFF22068150930C050303@comcast.net> I think all parties (FOX, MLB and NASCAR) can anticipate rain (yes, even race cars can't run in the rain) and maybe up here in the Northeast (including Yankee fans) people are up in arms about the Heidi-esque cutaway. I'd contend other parts of the country were probably content to lose baseball on a national FOX feed and get back to racing (especially in the South and Midwest where baseball isn't as prevalent as NASCAR is). Keep in mind - us race fans (this one who happen to also be a baseball/Red Sox fan) were already into our Pre-Race show when we were booted for a 2+ hour rain delay from soggy Fenway Park. To me, THAT was annoying. Granted - could there have been an exception for Fox 25 to continue with the ball game? Maybe, depending on the contractual obligations, but at least there were other options (radio and FX) versus the Heidi game which probably wasn't on a local radio outlet (and def. wasn't on Cable) at the time. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Bob Nelson" > In recent baseball playoffs there were situations like this: > > Game A (1 pm start) is on WTBS and is running late. Game B (4 pm start) is > supposed to also run on WTBS. During Game A, > they announce that the start of Game B will be on their sister station, TNT. > Once Game A > ends, Game B moves to WTBS. > > But this is a different situation: it involves the END of a game. > NASCAR must have a lot of pull (and a contract stipulation). It could have been, > "We will go to the NASCAR here on Fox when this game ends but you can see the > start of > the race right now on FX". That didn't happen. The abruptness of the switch-- > no announcement saying, "We will now go to the NASCAR race but you can see > the end of this game on FX" just before the flip--indicates that NASCAR may have > volunteered to delay > the start of its race a few minutes...but then they got restless and ordered Fox > to > pick up the start of its race, and NOW. From markwats@comcast.net Sun Apr 13 10:07:27 2008 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:07:27 -0400 Subject: Paul Sullivan Tribute Rebroadcast On WCAP Message-ID: <00dd01c89d6f$b5891610$0202a8c0@Mark> This past Wed. (April 9th) a tribute to the late Paul Sullivan (WBZ talk host, former WLLH host) was held in Lowell, with funds raised at the event going towards the Paul Sullivan Foundation at Middlesex Community College and the Paul H. Sullivan Suite at Saints Medical Center in Lowell, where Paul spent his last days in hospice care. The event was broadcast live on WCAP, which will rebroadcast the program today (Sunday April 13th) at 12 Noon. For those of you outside of WCAP's coverage area, you can hear the program on the live stream on WCAP's website: www.980wcap.com Also, here's a link to the Lowell Sun article from Thursday about the event, along with a photo slideshow from the event: http://www.lowellsun.com//ci_8877297?IADID=Search-www.lowellsun.com-www.lowellsun.com I apologize for the short notice on the WCAP broadcast, I meant to post this earlier. Mark Watson From billohno@gmail.com Sun Apr 13 13:57:28 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:57:28 -0400 Subject: Paul Sullivan Tribute Rebroadcast On WCAP In-Reply-To: <00dd01c89d6f$b5891610$0202a8c0@Mark> References: <00dd01c89d6f$b5891610$0202a8c0@Mark> Message-ID: <48024988.3070003@gmail.com> Mark Watson wrote: > Also, here's a link to the Lowell Sun article from Thursday about the > event, along with a photo slideshow from the event: Dave Perry's article does something that is legend over at the Sun. Legend. Read this quote and note how clearly the live broadcast on WCAP radio is identified: /"The evening, "A Glimpse Into Sully?s World," was hosted by WBZ colleague Jordan Rich and staged like a WBZ radio broadcast, from a bank of microphones. It was WBZ?s 50,000 watts that sent Sully?s Merrimack Valley twang creeping into 38 states ("and the smart part of Canada," his producer, Rick Radzik, quoted Sully) on his award-winning nighttime radio show."/ It's great that Paul Sullivan's family and friends were able to come together to remember a good man. However, what lives on is that media and politics is so interminably entwined, for better or for worse. Bill O'Neill From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Apr 13 16:27:32 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:27:32 -0400 Subject: Hum problem solved In-Reply-To: <001001c89d5c$20674510$e0f8a742@SatU205S5044> References: <480159A2.14791.2855FF1@joe.attorneyross.com>, <001001c89d5c$20674510$e0f8a742@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <48023474.31890.87B6FB@joe.attorneyross.com> On 13 Apr 2008 at 7:47, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > If there is a green pigtail ground wire on the outlet strip's power > cord and the pigtail wire has a spade lug on the end that you are > supposed to place under the head of the screw that secures the cover > plate to the wall outlet, the spade lug might have been touching the > head of the screw. To do an effective job of reducing hum in audio > equipment, the pigtail wire doesn't have to carry much current--maybe > only microamperes. As a result, if the lug had merely been touching > the screw head, it could have been sufficient for hum reduction--until > something ever so slightly disturbed the ground wire's position. > That's all it would take. Good point. But (1) the head of the screw is fairly well covered with paint to match the color of the cover plate; and (2) the wire lug was nowhere near the screw. So there must be some other reason why the system worked previously. But since it's working now, that's only a matter of idle curiosity, not a problem I need to solve. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From kwillcox@wnsh.com Sun Apr 13 18:32:57 2008 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (Keating Willcox) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:32:57 -0400 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 12, Issue 182 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200804132232.m3DMWcA8063621@tsornin.bostonradio.org> At 08:12 AM 4/13/2008, you wrote: >After a two hour rain delay, Jonathan Papelbon comes on to shut down >the Yankees. There are two outs in >the top of the ninth, Sox up by one--and suddenly the picture on Fox >switches to NASCAR auto racing. > >The announcer informs viewers after a minute or two that the end of >the Red Sox-Yankees game is >on "our sister network, FX". Viewers fumble for their remotes >(apparently Fox didn't consider a >split screen?) and try to figure out where the heck FX is. Why didn't FOX simply use a split screen format, and broadcast both events at the same time? Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Beverly From rac@gabrielmass.com Sun Apr 13 20:04:18 2008 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:04:18 -0400 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 12, Issue 182 In-Reply-To: <200804132232.m3DMWcA8063621@tsornin.bostonradio.org> References: <200804132232.m3DMWcA8063621@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: <48029F82.2060307@gabrielmass.com> On 04/13/2008 06:32 PM, Keating Willcox wrote: > > Why didn't FOX simply use a split screen format, and broadcast both > events at the same time? > That's it: left speaker for the Sox, right speaker for the race. Adjust your stereo balance as desired. --rc From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Apr 14 01:30:06 2008 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:30:06 -0400 Subject: Hum problem Message-ID: <4802B39E.25959.27870E8@joe.attorneyross.com> The hum returned this afternoon, though not quite as loud as before. So I tried the suggestion someone gave to ground the stereo chassis. There was already a ground post for the turntable, so I used that and ran a wire to the ground post on the outlet strip. No change. Then this evening, I tried it again, and the hum was gone. Go figure! I wonder if anyone in the building is doing something that could be causing this. Whatever, I'm trying to get as much of the recording I want to do done this evening while the equipment is working. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From chris2526@comcast.net Mon Apr 14 02:14:27 2008 From: chris2526@comcast.net (chris2526) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:14:27 -0400 Subject: WLLH posts Message-ID: <001201c89df6$cbcbdcf0$03f6764c@Chicken159> What a surprise!....each WLLH post brought loads of great emails each one detailing a wonderful memory or interesting connection to WLLH of days gone by. A few of these emails brought this to mind, my best guess puts it somewhere from 1963 though the mid to possibly the late sixties Anyone else remember this little ditty.. DRACUT.....BILLERICA.....CHELMSFORD.....METHUEN.....LAWRENCE AND LOWELL TOWN.......CROSS THE LINE TO NASHUA AND DROP FROM SALEM DOWN ....ITS THE NEW SOUND OF MUSIC W...DOUBLE...LH 1400 W...DOUBLE...LH Later ont at the end of the jingle the following was added: AND WLLH-FM 99.5 Chris Hall From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Mon Apr 14 12:20:34 2008 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:20:34 -0400 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 12, Issue 182 References: <200804132232.m3DMWcA8063621@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: <001401c89e4b$78a25720$a1984c0c@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Keating Willcox To: Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:32 PM Subject: Re: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 12, Issue 182 > At 08:12 AM 4/13/2008, you wrote: > >After a two hour rain delay, Jonathan Papelbon comes on to shut down > >the Yankees. There are two outs in > >the top of the ninth, Sox up by one--and suddenly the picture on Fox > >switches to NASCAR auto racing. > > > >The announcer informs viewers after a minute or two that the end of > >the Red Sox-Yankees game is > >on "our sister network, FX". Viewers fumble for their remotes > >(apparently Fox didn't consider a > >split screen?) and try to figure out where the heck FX is. > > > Why didn't FOX simply use a split screen format, and broadcast both > events at the same time? > > Fear of being in violation of the contract with NASCAR? We know that Fox had an obligation to carry the race from its start on the over-the-air network; perhaps language about split screens was written in. BTW, I heard a caller on Fox Sports Radio (via XM) yesterday who was upset for a different reason. He identified himself as a NASCAR fan and a patriotic American who had missed hearing the anthem and seeing the fighter jets zooming over the track -- which Fox usually covers in loving detail at every NASCAR race. He was outraged that Fox would pre-empt this important part of the NASCAR experience for baseball! Howard From wayne@vacationdreams.org Mon Apr 14 12:25:10 2008 From: wayne@vacationdreams.org (wayne@vacationdreams.org) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:25:10 -0400 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 12, Issue 182 Message-ID: <48038566.d.429.1286414046@vacationdreams.org> Down here in Florida where I live is football & NASCAR country.... I bet phone lit up right away from the delayed entry into the Neck-car event, and I can guarantee that up north the switchboard lit up when they cut away from the Sox.... "Can't please any of them, any of the time"... ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Howard Glazer" To: "Keating Willcox" , Subject: Re: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 12, Issue 182 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:20:34 -0400 >----- Original Message ----- >From: Keating Willcox >To: >Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:32 PM >Subject: Re: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 12, Issue >182 > > >> At 08:12 AM 4/13/2008, you wrote: >> >After a two hour rain delay, Jonathan Papelbon comes on >> >to shut down the Yankees. There are two outs in >> >the top of the ninth, Sox up by one--and suddenly the >> >picture on Fox switches to NASCAR auto racing. >> > >> >The announcer informs viewers after a minute or two that >> >the end of the Red Sox-Yankees game is >> >on "our sister network, FX". Viewers fumble for their >> >remotes (apparently Fox didn't consider a >> >split screen?) and try to figure out where the heck FX >>is. >> >> Why didn't FOX simply use a split screen format, and >> broadcast both events at the same time? >> >> > >Fear of being in violation of the contract with NASCAR? We >know that Fox had an obligation to carry the race from its >start on the over-the-air network; perhaps language about >split screens was written in. > >BTW, I heard a caller on Fox Sports Radio (via XM) >yesterday who was upset for a different reason. He >identified himself as a NASCAR fan and a patriotic American >who had missed hearing the anthem and seeing the fighter >jets zooming over the track -- which Fox usually covers in >loving detail at every NASCAR race. He was outraged that >Fox would pre-empt this important part of the NASCAR >experience for baseball! > >Howard > > "This message will self destruct in 15 seconds...." From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Apr 14 15:27:37 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:27:37 -0500 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 12, Issue 182 Message-ID: <20080414192737.E9A69CD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> >>which Fox usually covers in loving detail at every NASCAR race. He was outraged that Fox would pre-empt this important part of the NASCAR experience for baseball! "And they're coming up to the chequered flag --the winner of this important race...is..." SWITCH! "We interrupt the end of this NASCAR race so we may go to the first inning of today's game between the Tampa Bay Rays and the Texas Rangers." :) From elipolo@earthlink.net Mon Apr 14 18:55:59 2008 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:55:59 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Hum problem Message-ID: <19932119.1208213759230.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: Boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:30:06 -0400 >Subject: Re: Hum problem > >Then this evening, I tried it again, and the hum was gone. >Go figure! Perhaps it could be intermittent... That's often the universal explanation for such situations. But unfortunately, it doesn't indicate what to do about it. EP From billohno@gmail.com Tue Apr 15 11:06:57 2008 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:06:57 -0400 Subject: Vermont Broadcasters bring President on board...better late than never Message-ID: <200804151506.m3FF6wkk022904@mail168c2.megamailservers.com> The Addison Eagle reported that the Vermont Broadcasters Hall of Fame. Citing President Coolidge as the first president to harness the power of radio. Here's the link - http://tinyurl.com/6y89rd Interesting story about installing a radio into a car in the 1920s, and the sets cost over six hundred dollars in 1920 dollars. Take that, XM.... Bill O'Neill -- I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio. /Rodney Dangerfield/ From Joe@attorneyross.com Tue Apr 15 16:21:44 2008 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:21:44 -0500 Subject: Vermont Broadcasters bring President on board...better late than never In-Reply-To: <4804C491.3070608@gmail.com> References: <4804C491.3070608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4804C808.1762.372B69@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 15 Apr 2008 Bill O'Neill wrote: > The Addison Eagle reported that the Vermont Broadcasters Hall of Fame. > Citing President Coolidge as the first president to harness the power > of radio. Here's the link - http://tinyurl.com/6y89rd > > Interesting story about installing a radio into a car in the 1920s, > and the sets cost over six hundred dollars in 1920 dollars. Take > that, XM.... My father told me that he once had a car radio that clamped onto the stearing column and was removable when you got another car. This was probably the 1930s, when the price had undoubtedly come down a bit. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Apr 15 16:14:07 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:14:07 -0400 Subject: Vermont Broadcasters bring President on board...better late thannever References: <4804C491.3070608@gmail.com> <4804C808.1762.372B69@Joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <000d01c89f35$44a66de0$daefa644@SatU205S5044> To put the 1920 $600 figure in context, more than 15 years later, in the mid '30s, $600 (then-current dollars) would still buy a complete car--a pretty nice one by the standards of the day. And the price very likely included the radio, which would have been an add-on to the even lower price of the basic car. So we probably can say that $600 in 1920 or 1936 dollars bought the equivalent of more than $20,000 in 2008 dollars. If prices have increased by a factor of 32 in 70+ years, they have, in effect doubled every 14 years or so, which is only a little more than a 5% compound rate of inflation. I find that believable. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Bill O'Neill" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Vermont Broadcasters bring President on board...better late thannever > On 15 Apr 2008 Bill O'Neill wrote: > >> The Addison Eagle reported that the Vermont Broadcasters Hall of >> Fame. >> Citing President Coolidge as the first president to harness the >> power >> of radio. Here's the link - http://tinyurl.com/6y89rd >> >> Interesting story about installing a radio into a car in the 1920s, >> and the sets cost over six hundred dollars in 1920 dollars. Take >> that, XM.... > > My father told me that he once had a car radio that clamped onto the > stearing column and was removable when you got another car. This > was > probably the 1930s, when the price had undoubtedly come down a bit. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Apr 16 11:08:51 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:08:51 -0500 Subject: Cain to be inducted into Radio Hall of Fame Message-ID: <20080416150851.8395D49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Jess Cain is a posthumous inductee into the Radio Hall of Fame, while Boston's Howie Carr is a nominee for a regional award http://www.museum.tv/rhofsection.php http://www.museum.tv/rhofsection.php?page=448 From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Wed Apr 16 16:14:23 2008 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:14:23 -0400 Subject: Cain to be inducted into Radio Hall of Fame References: <20080416150851.8395D49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000801c89ffe$78488fb0$0201a8c0@Family> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" Jess Cain is a posthumous inductee into the Radio Hall of Fame, while Boston's Howie Carr is a nominee for a regional award http://www.museum.tv/rhofsection.php http://www.museum.tv/rhofsection.php?page=448 << 'Bout dang time that Jess got some well-deserved recognition. Too bad it came a little too late. But Howie? I'm puzzled - not that he might not be deserving at some point. How about Dale Dorman? JJ Wright? Matty? Loren and Wally? Nancy Quill? David Allen Boucher? You know - folks who have been at this radio thing a whole lot longer, and have been doing so on the same frequency and in the same time-slot since the First Regan administration. Anyone know the criteria for nomination? This is me saluting Jess! And a tip of the cap to Howie. Chuck Igo From brouder@juno.com Wed Apr 16 19:49:36 2008 From: brouder@juno.com (brouder@juno.com) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:49:36 GMT Subject: Dale Dorman on Leveille Show Message-ID: <20080416.194936.1800.0@webmail02.vgs.untd.com> Tomorrow (Thursday) morning, WODS morning man Dale Dorman will make a guest appearance on WBZ's Steve Leveille Broadcast from 4:00-4:30 a.m. Should be fun listening! Ed Brouder Manchester, NH _____________________________________________________________ Find great deals from qualified plastic surgeons. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iifdxQXuaqe3x0D9s6XpWUF9ZQZcsxmM4sUL7sxciguK40ysm/ From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed Apr 16 20:55:00 2008 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:55:00 -0400 Subject: Dale Dorman on Leveille Show In-Reply-To: <20080416.194936.1800.0@webmail02.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <004401c8a025$aa27fa80$6400a8c0@lysthia> Can someone roll tape on this? I'd love to hear it but I'll be in la la land. ------------------------------------ Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 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Click now! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iifdxQXuaqe3x 0D9s6XpWUF9ZQZcsxmM4sUL7sxciguK40ysm/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1381 - Release Date: 4/16/2008 9:34 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1381 - Release Date: 4/16/2008 9:34 AM From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Apr 17 08:00:36 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:00:36 -0400 Subject: Music 'Til Dawn--WBZ Message-ID: <001301c8a082$a74d6900$71eca644@SatU205S5044> Maybe I am misremembering, but I recall being resoundingly voted down on this list maybe six months ago in a thread on whether American Airlines' Music 'Til Dawn was ever heard on WBZ or whether the only Boston station that ever aired the program was the old WEEI 590. I remember stating that, at one point, American moved Music 'Til Dawn from WEEI's 5 kW Class IIIA regional signal to WBZ's 50 kW Class IA clear channel signal. I may have had the approximate year of the move wildly wrong (seems to me I said I thought it happened while I was in college in Troy NY, which would have made it sometime in the '52 to '56 time frame), but ISTR a couple of dozen people, including some this list's most respected contributors, saying that no such move EVER happened--EVER--and presenting some pretty strong arguments to prove their case. IIRC, only one person agreed with me, saying he _thought_ he recalled a move from WEEI to WBZ. Well, in the wee small hours of this morning, I was listening to Steve LeVeille, who received a call from Kenny Meyer, erstwhile producer of Larry Glick's show and others on WBZ and a New England radio historian in his own right. Meyer reminisced about producing the program that preceded Music 'Til Dawn on WBZ on Sunday nights and he recalled kibbitizing with MTD host Jack Lazarre before Lazarre would go on the air. He said this took place sometime during the '70s--a far cry from my apparently erroneous recollection of hearing MTD on WBZ in the '50s--but he WAS talking about Lazarre doing MTD on WBZ. Now, maybe Meyer also worked at the old WEEI at some point, in which case HE could have been confused about the station where he kibbitzed with Lazarre. Now, I don't recall Meyer's working at WEEI, but that hardly guarantees that he never did. However, if he never did, it seems almost certain that MTD was indeed on WBZ. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Thu Apr 17 14:16:37 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:16:37 -0400 Subject: Dale on WBZ? Message-ID: <028701c8a0b7$2fa0dd30$8201a8c0@MainXPPro> Anyone roll tape on Dale's appearance on WBZ overnight? From jmurphy@jonesradio.net Thu Apr 17 12:35:47 2008 From: jmurphy@jonesradio.net (Jim Murphy) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:35:47 -0600 Subject: Music 'Til Dawn--WBZ Message-ID: Dan - Your post about Jack Lazare and "Music 'Til Dawn" sparked a Google search, and I found an obituary on the Boston Herald website for Jack from 2 years ago, attached below. Perhaps this will help with the dates and call letters, as least as far as Jack's participation, on MTD. Best regards, Jim Murphy VP of Country Media Jones Radio Networks 303-784-8757 jmurphy@jonesradio.net + + + + + Mr. Lazare, with his deep, melodious voice, was a host of popular local radio shows on WEEI and WHDH starting in the 1960s. He died Feb. 25 at Connecticut Hospice in Branford, Conn. He was 83. His wife declined to give the cause of death. Although he had a full career in radio, Mr. Lazare also loved traveling, cooking, and writing -- even penning a mystery novel called ''The Restless" in 1995. Mr. Lazare was born and raised in New York City. He attended the University of California at Berkeley, and was a member of a small band in which he played the piano. In 1942, Mr. Lazare joined the Navy and served for three years as a pilot during World War II. One of Mr. Lazare's first jobs in radio was in New York in 1946 with WQXR. Three years later, he began working for the Voice of America, supervising 17 Southeast Asia language desks and serving as executive producer of programming until 1956. In the 1950s, Mr. Lazare hosted his own radio show, ''Milkman's Matinee," on WNEW in New York, which aired from midnight to 5 a.m. Studio guests included Louis Armstrong, Benny Goodman, and Frank Sinatra. Rather than talk for most of his shows, Mr. Lazare would ask questions on a range of topics to explore what his guests and callers thought, his wife said. ''He always showed a lot of warmth toward his guests and to his callers," his wife said. In 1961, Mr. Lazare became programming director for WNHC in New Haven. Two years later, he came to Boston and worked as a program director for WCOP, hosting his own daily record show from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. For three years starting in 1966, Mr. Lazare worked for WEEI and hosted the radio station's American Airlines ''Music 'til Dawn." He later worked for WHDH radio from 1968 until 1978 and hosted the show ''Sounds in the Night." ''He loved radio because it could appeal to the mind," his wife said. Mr. Lazare was also an actor and appeared in films including ''The Defection of Simas Kudirka" and ''See How She Runs." He was the New England representative and a past president for the New England region of the Screen Actors Guild. In 1985, Mr. Lazare moved to Essex, Conn., after purchasing radio station WMMW in Meriden, Conn., which he sold a couple of years later, his wife said. Mr. Lazare especially enjoyed traveling, visiting Europe every year with his wife. In addition to his wife, he leaves a daughter, Lynn Lazare Finnell of Carmel, Calif.; and a grandson and a granddaughter...." From dave@skywaves.net Fri Apr 18 23:49:02 2008 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:49:02 -0400 Subject: Vermont Broadcasters bring President on board...better latethannever References: <4804C491.3070608@gmail.com><4804C808.1762.372B69@Joe.attorneyross.com> <000d01c89f35$44a66de0$daefa644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <002801c8a1d0$4ec9d9e0$336ba8c0@skywaves.net> I was born in December 1950 in NYC. My dad worked at NBC-TV on the Today Show, and we had a TV that was almost always on. One of my earliest memories is when he bought a car, probably in 1954. He said that one of the great features of the car was that it had a radio, and he turned it on. I crawled all over that car looking for the picture! -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. Worcester, MA 508-425-7176 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Bill O'Neill" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Vermont Broadcasters bring President on board...better latethannever > To put the 1920 $600 figure in context, more than 15 years later, in > the mid '30s, $600 (then-current dollars) would still buy a complete > car--a pretty nice one by the standards of the day. And the price very > likely included the radio, which would have been an add-on to the even > lower price of the basic car. So we probably can say that $600 in 1920 > or 1936 dollars bought the equivalent of more than $20,000 in 2008 > dollars. If prices have increased by a factor of 32 in 70+ years, they > have, in effect doubled every 14 years or so, which is only a little > more than a 5% compound rate of inflation. I find that believable. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: "Bill O'Neill" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:21 PM > Subject: Re: Vermont Broadcasters bring President on board...better > late thannever > > >> On 15 Apr 2008 Bill O'Neill wrote: >> >>> The Addison Eagle reported that the Vermont Broadcasters Hall of >>> Fame. >>> Citing President Coolidge as the first president to harness the >>> power >>> of radio. Here's the link - http://tinyurl.com/6y89rd >>> >>> Interesting story about installing a radio into a car in the 1920s, >>> and the sets cost over six hundred dollars in 1920 dollars. Take >>> that, XM.... >> >> My father told me that he once had a car radio that clamped onto the >> stearing column and was removable when you got another car. This >> was >> probably the 1930s, when the price had undoubtedly come down a bit. >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856 >> Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> > > > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Apr 19 03:08:18 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:08:18 -0400 Subject: staffed newsrooms after AM drive in Boston radio? Message-ID: <005e01c8a1ec$731970a0$8201a8c0@MainXPPro> Besides WBUR and WBZ....does any radio station in the Boston market have any newspeople on duty after morning drive? (And I don't mean Metro newscasts...) ;-) Outside of WBZ and WBUR...do any Boston stations have local in-house newcasts (other than metro) after morning drive? From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Apr 19 03:12:36 2008 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:12:36 -0400 Subject: Dale on WBZ? Message-ID: <006401c8a1ed$e416f510$8201a8c0@MainXPPro> Did anyone in the Boston area roll tape on Dale's appearance overnight on WBZ? (I tried this before...and I dont know if it got thru....if so, just ignore....) From marklaurence@mac.com Sat Apr 19 09:15:57 2008 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:15:57 -0400 Subject: staffed newsrooms after AM drive in Boston radio? In-Reply-To: <005e01c8a1ec$731970a0$8201a8c0@MainXPPro> References: <005e01c8a1ec$731970a0$8201a8c0@MainXPPro> Message-ID: On Apr 19, 2008, at 3:08 AM, Don A wrote: > Besides WBUR and WBZ....does any radio station in the Boston market > have any > newspeople on duty after morning drive? (And I don't mean Metro > newscasts...) ;-) > > Outside of WBZ and WBUR...do any Boston stations have local in-house > newcasts (other than metro) after morning drive? WTKK has Ed Cherubino doing afternoon newscasts. WGBH co-produces an entire network newscast ("The World") in the afternoon, and local news with Margot Stage during their presentation of All Things Considered. From markwats@comcast.net Mon Apr 21 17:12:11 2008 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:12:11 -0400 Subject: Scaled Back Boston Marathon Coverage On WBZ Radio Message-ID: <003801c8a3f4$5e082940$0202a8c0@Mark> I noticed that WBZ radio did not have the "wire to wire" Boston Marathon coverage today as they have done in past years. This year they stayed pretty much in regular format, with race updates in between the regular format elements. They did have live calls of the finishes of the wheelchair, women's & men's divisions however. I did not tune in till after 10:30, so I don't know if they did a live call of the start of the race. And the live finish calls were handled by Mark Kattic (sp?) and not Gil Santos, who had anchored the "wire to wire" coverage in the past. Could the scaled back coverage be an economic move, or a programming decision to stick with the regular format, save for the updates and coverage of the finishes? For what it's worth, on WCVB's 5PM news, the Marathon was the fifth story in. Mark Watson From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Mon Apr 21 17:18:00 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:18:00 -0400 Subject: Scaled Back Boston Marathon Coverage On WBZ Radio In-Reply-To: <003801c8a3f4$5e082940$0202a8c0@Mark> References: <003801c8a3f4$5e082940$0202a8c0@Mark> Message-ID: <480D0488.2020506@ttlc.net> And, in somewhat-related news - Bob Lobel did his farewell ("swan song" as my wife put it) this afternoon. Mark Watson wrote: > I noticed that WBZ radio did not have the "wire to wire" Boston > Marathon coverage today as they have done in past years. This year > they stayed pretty much in regular format, with race updates in > between the regular format elements. They did have live calls of the > finishes of the wheelchair, women's & men's divisions however. I did > not tune in till after 10:30, so I don't know if they did a live call > of the start of the race. And the live finish calls were handled by > Mark Kattic (sp?) and not Gil Santos, who had anchored the "wire to > wire" coverage in the past. Could the scaled back coverage be an > economic move, or a programming decision to stick with the regular > format, save for the updates and coverage of the finishes? From madprof@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 22 12:00:36 2008 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:00:36 -0400 Subject: Topozone change Message-ID: <380-2200842221603678@ix.netcom.com> Topozone.com has been acquired by Trails.com, sometime since 3-31-08. For anyone using USGS maps online on a low volume basis, this is disturbing. Free access is no longer available. "for full access, login or begin your free 14 day trial" with cost of $50 annual. Attempts at viewing sections of USGS maps are overlaid with a "watermark" (Trails.com logo) which obscures map data. Preliminary functional checkout: - viewmaps page layout sompletely revised, no longer has entry of coords. - no target marker (red cross) - no longer can control scale/view-size? - maps appearence is different (color, "shaded"(shadows?)) then Topozone - coords displayed in decimal only, not ddmmss. tho search by coords can be by UTM, or DDMMSS - no NAD27 / NAD83 switch? - renewed must use minus sign for west longitude. - can't search for coords by city?? (must go by state, then county, then populated place or post office (...if you know which county???) and what of places of multiple PO's ie Boston? - Canada topos are not included, were in Topozone (tested Orillia, ON) 1 new good feature: you can search for radio towers by state, county, then (feature) call letters! Bob Sutherland From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Apr 22 16:02:26 2008 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:02:26 -0400 Subject: 50th anniversary of talk radio in Boston Message-ID: <001601c8a4b3$cb9526b0$98eda644@SatU205S5044> There is a celebration at Barnes and Noble in Kenmore Sq on 4/29. But the question is whether it is being held in the wrong year. I think Jerry Williams started on WMEX in 1957--not 1958. Can anyone either confirm this or definitively shoot me down? Also, of course, what is being celebrated is NOT the beginning of talk radio in Boston but the beginning of two-way telephone talk radio in Boston. Years before Jerry arrived in town, Sherm Feller was doing talk radio in Boston--although the listeners could not hear the caller's side of the conversation; Sherm had to repeat what the caller had said. Others were doing similar programs elsewhere--Jerry Gray and Jack Eigen in New York--to name only a couple. And if you include talk shows in which the person conversing with the program host was in the studio rather than on the phone, I imagine you have to go all the way back to the twentires. Oh, well, if I'm right that Jerry started on WMEX in '57, this won't be the first or the last radio-related anniversary celebration to take place in the wrong year. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 From atolz@comcast.net Tue Apr 22 17:15:14 2008 From: atolz@comcast.net (Alan Tolz) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:15:14 -0400 Subject: 50th anniversary of talk radio in Boston References: <001601c8a4b3$cb9526b0$98eda644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <000601c8a4bd$f5680bb0$6d01a8c0@mediacenter> Dan, you are correct... we are taking liberties with the anniversay date as Jerry started two-way telephone talk on WMEX in the fall of 1957, but we were not ready with his biography until now. Here are more specifics on the event... An event marking the 50th anniversary of talk radio in New England and the release of the new book about the legendary talk show Jerry Williams will be held in Boston at 8 p.m. on Tuesday, April 29, sponsored by Barnes and Noble and Boston University. Howie Carr, WRKO radio talk show host, will be a guest speaker at the event, along with the co-authors of the new book about Jerry Williams, which is entitled "Burning up the Air: Jerry Williams, Talk Radio and the Life In Between." The authors will talk about the flamboyant Williams as well as his influence on talk radio, including his introduction of talk radio to New England. Copies of the book will be on sale, and Elman and Tolz will be available to sign copies. The event is free and open to the public, but tickets must be obtained in advance. Tickets may be obtained by contacting the Barnes and Noble in Kenmore Square at 617-267-8484. The book's co-authors, both former producers of talk shows hosted by Jerry Williams, are Steve Elman of Boston, former Assistant General Manager of WBUR-FM and a former jazz and classical DJ at the station, and Alan Tolz of Bedford, New Hampshire, Chief Operating Officer of Marlin Broadcasting. The location of the event is the Dance Theater at the new Agganis Arena at Boston University, 915 Commonwealth Avenue, Boston. Alan Tolz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:02 PM Subject: 50th anniversary of talk radio in Boston > There is a celebration at Barnes and Noble in Kenmore Sq on 4/29. But > the question is whether it is being held in the wrong year. I think > Jerry Williams started on WMEX in 1957--not 1958. Can anyone either > confirm this or definitively shoot me down? Also, of course, what is > being celebrated is NOT the beginning of talk radio in Boston but the > beginning of two-way telephone talk radio in Boston. Years before > Jerry arrived in town, Sherm Feller was doing talk radio in > Boston--although the listeners could not hear the caller's side of the > conversation; Sherm had to repeat what the caller had said. Others > were doing similar programs elsewhere--Jerry Gray and Jack Eigen in > New York--to name only a couple. And if you include talk shows in > which the person conversing with the program host was in the studio > rather than on the phone, I imagine you have to go all the way back to > the twentires. > > Oh, well, if I'm right that Jerry started on WMEX in '57, this won't > be the first or the last radio-related anniversary celebration to take > place in the wrong year. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Apr 22 17:30:31 2008 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:30:31 -0400 Subject: 50th anniversary of talk radio in Boston In-Reply-To: <001601c8a4b3$cb9526b0$98eda644@SatU205S5044> References: <001601c8a4b3$cb9526b0$98eda644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <20080422213038.505021B4067@relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 04:02 PM 4/22/2008, Dan.Strassberg wrote: >There is a celebration at Barnes and Noble in Kenmore Sq on 4/29. But >the question is whether it is being held in the wrong year. I think >Jerry Williams started on WMEX in 1957--not 1958. In Boston, yes, September 1957 as far as I know-- the Richmond Brothers hadn't even completed taking over WMEX from the Pot? Brothers till August of 1957, if my memory serves me well. No, Jerry wasn't the first talk jock, nor did he claim to be back then-- but yes he did put talk radio on the map in Boston. Others tried to do it, but he got the big ratings and the media attention. We truly may never know who was the first to ever do talk-- many people over the years from Jack Eigen to Barry Gray to Joe Pyne and many others would say they were the first... From ewerme@comcast.net Wed Apr 23 20:22:40 2008 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:22:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Topozone change Message-ID: <20080424002240.A0CE35C542@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> > Topozone.com has been acquired by Trails.com, > sometime since 3-31-08. I noticed that a couple weeks ago, they were very handy for geocaching, haven't checked out the new offerings yet. I always expected them to just disappear one day. > For anyone using USGS maps online on a low volume basis, > this is disturbing. > Free access is no longer available. > "for full access, login or begin your free 14 day trial" > with cost of $50 annual. That's a bit pricy. DeLorme and National Geographic offer scanned maps and Delorme has digital maps which work well with their PN-20 GPS receiver. (Note - the maps are good, the user interface and software performance are not.) From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Apr 24 14:10:44 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:10:44 -0500 Subject: RIP Don Gillis Message-ID: <20080424181045.83D9449B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Don Gillis passed on last night; he worked with Curt Gowdy on radio and took over for him when Curt injured his back... Don started the first nightly sportscast in Boston at Ch 5/WHDH-TV I believe http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/15978384/detail.html From markwats@comcast.net Thu Apr 24 16:35:09 2008 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:35:09 -0400 Subject: RIP Don Gillis References: <20080424181045.83D9449B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000a01c8a64a$b1bb1e00$0202a8c0@Mark> Bob Nelson wrote: Don Gillis passed on last night; he worked with Curt Gowdy on radio and took over for him when Curt injured his back... Don started the first nightly sportscast in Boston at Ch 5/WHDH-TV I believe So sorry to hear of Don's passing. I spent many a Saturday late morning/early afternoon watching "Candlepin Bowling" and Don's detailed description of the action, which he would remind us a couple of times per show was for the vision impaired viewers so they too could enjoy the show. Don seemed to enjoy "Candlepins" and it kept him busy for alomost 14 years after he retired from the nightly sports duties. Yes he was Boston's first nightly sports anchor. According to an article on the Boston Globe's website, his son Gary (former Channel 7 sports anchor) mentioned his dad's first sportscast was the same night as Johnny carson's first Tonight Show. The Globe article can be found here: http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/04/boston_sportsca.html Also, I clicked on the 3 video links in Channel 5's website story, the first link is Don's intro shown before the final "Candlepin Bowling" show aired in Jan. 1996. No one knew at the time of that taping the show was being cancelled. Don recorded a special intro at the New England Sports Museum to thank the viewers for their years of support. The other 2 links do not feature Don Gillis, but part of the half hour show that followed Don's show, "Candlepin Superbowl", which featured mixed doubles (each team consisting of 1 male/1 female bowler). The host in the clips that are posted is Bill O'Connell, who was the weekend sports anchor at Channel 5, later weeknight sports anchor at Channel 56. IIRC, after leaving 56, didn't he work in radio on Cape Cod? Mark Watson From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Apr 24 15:07:26 2008 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:07:26 -0400 Subject: RIP Don Gillis In-Reply-To: <20080424181045.83D9449B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080424181045.83D9449B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4810DA6E.8030006@ttlc.net> WBZ ran the story recapping Don'smany accomplishments along with a phone-in from Gil Santos. Bob McMann finished the story with the line "He was also host of 'The Bowling Show' for many years". Bob Nelson wrote: > Don Gillis passed on last night; he worked with Curt Gowdy on radio and took over for him when Curt injured his back... > Don started the first nightly sportscast in Boston at Ch 5/WHDH-TV I believe > > http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/15978384/detail.html > > > > From lglavin@mail.com Fri Apr 25 16:28:41 2008 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:28:41 -0500 Subject: WESX Changes Approved Message-ID: <20080425202841.ED568BE4078@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> The FCC Actions for Friday, April 25th, included an approval of WESX-AM 1230's plan to change C.O.L. from Salem to Nahant, move to the WLYN-AM tower and reduce power to a mighty 450 watts...all of this described as a "minor change". I wonder if these moves will be accomplished before the full buildout of the 1200/1330/1600 troika. -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Apr 26 12:55:54 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:55:54 -0500 Subject: WESX Changes Approved Message-ID: <20080426165555.2EF9D83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> I know there were concerns about it affecting the WKOX signal if they moved the transmitter to Saugus (or WMKI, too); if they're on the WLYN stick they may as well be in Saugus, as they're just down the road from the Saugus River and border between Saugus and Lynn. Lower power enables them to do it. The WESX page of radio-locator.com has details of when the CP expires, what the (take with many grains of salt) signal will reach, etc. From kvahey@comcast.net Sun Apr 27 12:45:00 2008 From: kvahey@comcast.net (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:45:00 -0400 Subject: RIP Don Gillis In-Reply-To: <000a01c8a64a$b1bb1e00$0202a8c0@Mark> References: <20080424181045.83D9449B6BD@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> <000a01c8a64a$b1bb1e00$0202a8c0@Mark> Message-ID: <4fc429770804270945t463233f9l175aba8e426f9a15@mail.gmail.com> The first time I ever met Don Gillis I was perhaps 12 or 13 and I went to a taping of candlepins when it was done at a bowling alley on Boylston St behind Fenway Park which was before it moved to Sammy White's in Brighton and then when WCVB took over Natick. I was curious on how something was done with film and he took the time to explain what a B roll was to me. He was very simply a very nice guy. From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Apr 30 13:26:28 2008 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:26:28 -0500 Subject: WRKO ratings suffer; Tai off Herald site Message-ID: <20080430172629.208EFCD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> The Herald reported on the latest 25-54 ratings, in which WRKO (Finneran, Hopkins, Limbaugh, Carr) is suffering. That same paper has gotten rid of the blog by longtime local radio guy Tom "Tai" Irwin, reports Boston Radio Watch. Tai had complained about Howie Carr's show and offered to do that show--and Carr's Herald column--for free. Newspapers and local radio are both suffering these days; the Globe is offering more buyouts to its staffers, circulation is down (blame the Net among other things). http://www.bostonradiowatch.com