From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Sep 1 02:27:36 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:27:36 -0500 Subject: Transmitter locations In-Reply-To: <4fc429770708311244r7e7e5004h51dded3cf62e785a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770708311244r7e7e5004h51dded3cf62e785a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46D8C008.12228.72E8CF@joe.attorneyross.com> On 31 Aug 2007 at 15:44, Kevin Vahey wrote: > I agree that back in the 40's when many of these transmitter sites > were planned...what is now Metro-West was cow pasture country. > > The Mass Turnpike opening in 1957 changed everything. Actually, I think Shopper's World had an effect, too, and that was about five years before the Mass Turnpike. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Sep 1 02:27:37 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:27:37 -0500 Subject: Talk shows through the ages In-Reply-To: References: <20070830.114527.950.0@webmail08.lax.untd.com>, Message-ID: <46D8C009.19070.72EFB4@joe.attorneyross.com> On 31 Aug 2007 at 0:45, thomas heathwood wrote: > Think Russ (Butler) is thinking of Jim Fitzgerald who did a 40's music > / telephone calls (one-way) show at midnight on WVOM live from the > Hotel Commander weeknights. He always answered the callers: "Hello > Telephone!" Don't think the WVDA Hotel Bradford studio were in the old > WBZ studios. One was on the 6th floor and the other was on the 10th > floor - can't remember which was which. Tom Heathwood I don't know, but sometime around 1975 I appeared on a half-hour talk show about rent control on WUNR. That was in the Hotel Bradford, and I was told that this was the old WBZ studios. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Sep 1 02:27:39 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:27:39 -0500 Subject: WTIC (and WBZ, WRKO) night signals In-Reply-To: <011301c7ebd5$285cf2d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <46D653D3.6070404@friedbagels.com>, <011301c7ebd5$285cf2d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <46D8C00B.31737.72F6F8@joe.attorneyross.com> On 31 Aug 2007 at 9:45, Mark Casey wrote: > In contrast, WBZ's ground wave signal starts having night skywave > problems between Sturbridge and Palmer, which is more like 75-85 miles > from Hull. It's often hard to listen to WBZ at night in Springfield, > but they have a great signal when you get to pure skywave 150+ miles > out. For example: Signal for signal, on average, at any time of year, > WBZ's night signal is the best of all the 50kw AM's on the dial at our > favorite vacation spot in coastal North Carolina-usually with very > little fading, easy to listen to. Yes, back in the days when I had an AM-only car radio, I had trouble finding any station that I could listen to for very long when driving home after dark from a trip to Amherst. But back in 1966, when I took spring break in Bermuda, I heard WBZ loud and clear, sounding like a local, coming from a nearby car radio at 1 AM. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From nostaticatall@charter.net Sat Sep 1 02:06:24 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 02:06:24 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm sure WEEI will make a bid for the affiliation. They'd love to have the ESPN play by play available to them. They could entice ESPN by pitching to air the network during off hours on all of their affiliates, including the Nassau ones--at least in markets where ESPN isn't already committed to another station, like in Providence. With Entercom buying into WCRB, the rumors were flying around a few weeks back about WEEI's sports format eventually moving to 99.5. If that ever comes to pass, they could put ESPN on 850 and run it 24/7. Overflow games could run there along with BC sports, which doesn't have much appeal to most of WEEI's network stations. In turn, WEEI could broadcast major ESPN events like NFL football, MLB playoffs, NBA games, etc. Plus, they'd regain access to Peter Gammons and other area ESPN personalities. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Aug 31, 2007, at 11:20 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Rumors flying that WAMG is on the selling block. Now if sold what > happens to ESPN Radio? Would Disney consider putting sports on 1260? > The signal is woeful to the west but decent in the city. > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Sep 1 03:16:40 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 03:16:40 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> > With Entercom buying into WCRB, the rumors were flying around a few > weeks back about WEEI's sports format eventually moving to 99.5. One of the reasons WKLB wanted to get off of 99.5...is the terrible signal they have on the South Shore. Why would they want to put sucessful programming on an inferior signal? > If that ever comes to pass, they could put ESPN on 850 and run it 24/7. Why would they want to enable another sports outlet in Boston? I would think they would want *all* sports listeners on one station. From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Sep 1 03:21:56 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 02:21:56 -0500 Subject: More Howie vacation time means... Message-ID: <20070901072156.17CCE49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Howie Carr said during his 6 pm hour tonight that he'll be off air not just on Monday but all next week. My guess is he's burning off even more of his accumulated vacation time from Entercom and doesn't plan to stay in the sneaker building past the end of his contract. Legal stipulations may not agree with his wishes, though. But he could well be down to his last 8 or 9 shows for WRKO. Howie has taken some vacation weeks off before but the amount of time he's spent off-air lately is considerably more, due to "burning off" vacation days. We'll see what becomes of all the legal stuff but this is another sign Howie wants out, and now. From nostaticatall@charter.net Sat Sep 1 03:32:20 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 03:32:20 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com> <009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> Message-ID: <5f6af29826d6440d9a40cf9a2df693fc@charter.net> On Sep 1, 2007, at 3:16 AM, Don A wrote: > One of the reasons WKLB wanted to get off of 99.5...is the terrible > signal they have on the South Shore. > Why would they want to put sucessful programming on an inferior signal? 99.5 is still a better signal than 850, plus it's FM. Besides, with 103.7 audible over most of South Shore and WPXC on the Cape signing on with the WEEI Network soon, pretty much the entire market would be able to hear WEEI on FM 24/7. That's better than 850 under any circumstances. > Why would they want to enable another sports outlet in Boston? > I would think they would want *all* sports listeners on one station. But there is a segment of the audience who may want a more national perspective. ESPN would provide that, and WEEI would have a place for overflow programming, instead of WRKO. Besides, you could sell the two sports stations in tandem with eachother. ESPN850 would protect WEEI and solidify the sports brand for Entercom by keeping other operators from signing on a competing format. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Sep 1 05:01:30 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 05:01:30 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com><009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <5f6af29826d6440d9a40cf9a2df693fc@charter.net> Message-ID: <00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> >> One of the reasons WKLB wanted to get off of 99.5...is the terrible >> signal they have on the South Shore. >> Why would they want to put sucessful programming on an inferior signal? > > 99.5 is still a better signal than 850... Can say I agree with that. >> Why would they want to enable another sports outlet in Boston? >> I would think they would want *all* sports listeners on one station. > > But there is a segment of the audience who may want a more national > perspective. ESPN would provide that.... And where would that audience come from? ProbablyWEEI. From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Sat Sep 1 07:11:14 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 07:11:14 -0400 Subject: Inexpensive HD Radio Message-ID: <46D948D2.60604@ttlc.net> Has anyone on the list bought/tried the Radiosophy HD100 radio for $99.95? From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Sep 1 07:34:58 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 07:34:58 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com> <009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <5f6af29826d6440d9a40cf9a2df693fc@charter.net> <00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> Message-ID: <4fc429770709010434n4931d4f3l3fadc0763b8b232a@mail.gmail.com> IF 99.5 went sports Entercom could solve the South Shore problem with WKAF. Then I could see Salem buying 850 and then dumping either 1150 or 950. Go one step further Salem could also sell 590 to Disney for ESPN as they did with 1260. From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Sep 1 08:00:43 2007 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 08:00:43 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <4fc429770709010434n4931d4f3l3fadc0763b8b232a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00fc01c7ec8f$b95c2250$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > IF 99.5 went sports Entercom could solve the South Shore problem with > WKAF. Then I could see Salem buying 850 and then dumping either 1150 > or 950. Go one step further Salem could also sell 590 to Disney for > ESPN as they did with 1260. 97.7 actually isn't that good on the south shore, now that it's on the blue hills. In Brockton, the city of license, the station is weaker than most Boston stations, and 99.5 is actually probably about the same strength. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From map@mapinternet.com Sat Sep 1 08:22:41 2007 From: map@mapinternet.com (Mark Casey) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 08:22:41 -0400 Subject: WTIC (and WBZ, WRKO) night signals References: <46D653D3.6070404@friedbagels.com><011301c7ebd5$285cf2d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> <46D8A894.1030505@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <004101c7ec92$cb2776d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> > Why is it so much more difficult to hear WBZ here in Middlebury, Vermont? > Day, forget it, and night, noisy. > Bill O'Neill Depends on the antenna system design. For some stations, the best skywave reception might be 300-700 miles out. I notice that WBZ's nightime talk shows seem to get a lot of calls from Ohio, North Carolina, etc, so that may be the case. In contrast to both WTIC and WBZ, many of the New York City 50kw AM's have pretty good night signals throughout the transition area from ground wave to skywave. Of course, it also depends on how "noisy" is defined. Even the best skywave signals are somewhat noisy due to fading and cancelling. Mark K1MAP From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Sep 1 08:50:20 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 08:50:20 -0400 Subject: WTIC (and WBZ, WRKO) night signals In-Reply-To: <004101c7ec92$cb2776d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <46D653D3.6070404@friedbagels.com> <011301c7ebd5$285cf2d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> <46D8A894.1030505@billoneill.us> <004101c7ec92$cb2776d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <4fc429770709010550h137a2533h6678f1ef359ec3bd@mail.gmail.com> One night I was on 95 in North Carolina and hit scan and it only stopped once...on 1030. WBZ has always done well along the Chicago lakefront starting a hour before sunset. WBZ and WWL probably have the strongest signals of the old 1-A stations as they elected to be directional. From paul@derrynh.net Sat Sep 1 09:38:21 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:38:21 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> Message-ID: <002801c7ec9d$5e22d470$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> Since 103.7 Westerly comes in good in those areas where 99.5 is weak, I would think it would be a good match, actually. -Paul Hopfgarten -Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Don A Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:17 AM To: David Tomm; Kevin Vahey Cc: bri Subject: Re: If 890 is sold > With Entercom buying into WCRB, the rumors were flying around a few > weeks back about WEEI's sports format eventually moving to 99.5. One of the reasons WKLB wanted to get off of 99.5...is the terrible signal they have on the South Shore. Why would they want to put sucessful programming on an inferior signal? > If that ever comes to pass, they could put ESPN on 850 and run it 24/7. Why would they want to enable another sports outlet in Boston? I would think they would want *all* sports listeners on one station. From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Sep 1 09:57:34 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:57:34 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <002801c7ec9d$5e22d470$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> References: <009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <002801c7ec9d$5e22d470$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: <4fc429770709010657s31c1a4cbr2025262939065d16@mail.gmail.com> Entercom has something planned for WCRB but what? I really can see ESPN landing on 590 especially if Salem winds up with 850. I think the AM landscape in Boston is going to see a drastic change. I can't see 890 staying ESPN as the night signal even with the boost still fights WLS. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Sep 1 10:17:34 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 10:17:34 -0400 Subject: WTIC (and WBZ, WRKO) night signals References: <46D653D3.6070404@friedbagels.com><011301c7ebd5$285cf2d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af><46D8A894.1030505@billoneill.us><004101c7ec92$cb2776d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> <4fc429770709010550h137a2533h6678f1ef359ec3bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000b01c7eca2$db2aa290$bba64c0c@SatU205S5044> Two other Class IA AMs were directional at one time--both stations were owned by RCA/NBC--WEAF (now WFAN) and WTAM. Neither was very directional but both used DA patterns to reduce radiation over nearby bodies of water--the Atlantic Ocean and Long Island Sound in WEAF's case and Lake Erie in WTAM's. I always wondered why the west-coast ND Class I's KFI, KNX, and KPO (now KNBR) didn't do something similar. In the case of the two Los Angeles stations, the issue may have been co-channel Canadians (although the one on 640 wasn't in Canada when NARBA put it there--Newfoundland didn't become part of Canada until several years later). WTAM's DA was unique in the US, AFAIK, though not unique in North America; it was a one-tower DA. "How's that?" you may ask. Well, I didn't say one element; it was a two-element array; the second element was a drop-wire suspended from one of the guys. The antenna was designed by the legendary Carl Smith and several like it are apparently still in existence in Mexico and Europe. From what I've been able to learn, the efficiency was extraordinarily high. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Mark Casey" Cc: Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 8:50 AM Subject: Re: WTIC (and WBZ, WRKO) night signals > One night I was on 95 in North Carolina and hit scan and it only > stopped once...on 1030. WBZ has always done well along the Chicago > lakefront starting a hour before sunset. WBZ and WWL probably have > the > strongest signals of the old 1-A stations as they elected to be > directional. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Sep 1 11:48:56 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 11:48:56 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com><009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2><5f6af29826d6440d9a40cf9a2df693fc@charter.net> <00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> Message-ID: <008201c7ecaf$a060d140$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> > >>> One of the reasons WKLB wanted to get off of 99.5...is the terrible >>> signal they have on the South Shore. >>> Why would they want to put sucessful programming on an inferior signal? >> >> 99.5 is still a better signal than 850... > > Can say I agree with that. What I meant to say was CAN'T.... CAN'T agree with that. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Sep 1 11:52:08 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 11:52:08 -0400 Subject: Di-Rectional..... References: <46D653D3.6070404@friedbagels.com><011301c7ebd5$285cf2d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af><46D8A894.1030505@billoneill.us><004101c7ec92$cb2776d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af><4fc429770709010550h137a2533h6678f1ef359ec3bd@mail.gmail.com> <000b01c7eca2$db2aa290$bba64c0c@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <008501c7ecb0$0f871a20$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> Maybe Dan or some other technical mind can answer this. I know the first (licensed) stations on the air around 1921-ish.... When did the engineers discover directional antenna patterns? What year did the first directional array go into effect? The technology (if you can call it that) has been around for a long time....but seems rather "hi-tech" for the 20's and 30's..... From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Sep 1 12:07:49 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 12:07:49 -0400 Subject: Di-Rectional..... In-Reply-To: <008501c7ecb0$0f871a20$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> References: <46D653D3.6070404@friedbagels.com> <011301c7ebd5$285cf2d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> <46D8A894.1030505@billoneill.us> <004101c7ec92$cb2776d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> <4fc429770709010550h137a2533h6678f1ef359ec3bd@mail.gmail.com> <000b01c7eca2$db2aa290$bba64c0c@SatU205S5044> <008501c7ecb0$0f871a20$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> Message-ID: <4fc429770709010907u13a21efbra748f8e0cfbdfc37@mail.gmail.com> WSUN 620 in St Pete, Florida was first in 1932 protecting WTMJ Milwaukee. On 9/1/07, Don A wrote: > Maybe Dan or some other technical mind can answer this. > > I know the first (licensed) stations on the air around 1921-ish.... > > When did the engineers discover directional antenna patterns? > > What year did the first directional array go into effect? > > The technology (if you can call it that) has been around for a long > time....but seems rather "hi-tech" for the 20's and 30's..... > > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Sep 1 12:57:56 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 12:57:56 -0400 Subject: Di-Rectional..... References: <46D653D3.6070404@friedbagels.com><011301c7ebd5$285cf2d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af><46D8A894.1030505@billoneill.us><004101c7ec92$cb2776d0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af><4fc429770709010550h137a2533h6678f1ef359ec3bd@mail.gmail.com> <000b01c7eca2$db2aa290$bba64c0c@SatU205S5044> <008501c7ecb0$0f871a20$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> Message-ID: <000d01c7ecb9$436584e0$d3a24c0c@SatU205S5044> The first DA in the US went on the air in the early 1930s--sometime between 1931 and 1934, I think, at WFLA/WSUN 620 in Tampa/St Petersburg FL. The history of this early system is pretty well documented on the Web. I can't list URLs, but a Google search for WFLA/WSUN directional antenna should yield info on the original system (probably mixed with info on later systems at these and other stations--both call signs are still in use in the Tampa Bay area--although for sure, WFLA is on a different station and so, I believe, is WSUN). My understanding is that there were medium-wave DAs in Europe before the WFLA/WSUN system--but not MUCH before. The WFLA/WSUN system was followed in pretty short order, also in Tampa Bay, at WDAE, which was probably on 1210 or 1220 at the time. WFLA/WSUN shared time on 620. Probably because of the long salt-water path to the north, nighttime-skywave interference to co-channel WTMJ Milwaukee prompted the FCC to warn the Florida stations that, unless they could eliminate the interference, their licenses would be restricted to daytime-only operation. The original WFLA/WSUN phasing network consisted of a length of coaxial transmission line, which had to be tediously shortened to tune the array. The WDAE system was the first to use discrete passive components for this purpose--a much more practical approach. Medium-wave DAs as we know them depend on the elements being vertical radiators, which were just coming into use in the US at about the same time as DAs. At that time, many stations used horizontal-wire antennas; the (grounded) towers were merely for support. The horizontal wire or wires that joined the tops of the towers were the antenna. The vertical wires suspended from the middle of the horizontal wire were feed wires and were not radiating elements. Eventually, a few of these horizontal long-wire systems were converted to DAs by shunt-feeding appropriately phased signals to the supporting towers, converting the feed wires to a radiating element, and insulating the horizontal wire or wires from the towers and what had been the feed wires, thus converting the horizontal wires to a (capacitive) top load. In the US, horizontal-wire antennas gradually disappared over the next decades, although at least one remains in use at KYPA Los Angeles. The technology behind AM DAs has not fundamentally changed in the more than seven decdes of their use but the mathematical tools for synthesizing arrays has improved enormously. The method of moments, a technique originally developed in conjunction with the H-bomb program, is now embedded within array-synthesis software. One array designer I know uses a supercomputer comprising 32 Pentium-class PCs to perform the calculations. All of the computing power reduces to hours calculations that not many years ago required weeks. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don A" To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; "BRI" Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:52 AM Subject: Di-Rectional..... > Maybe Dan or some other technical mind can answer this. > > I know the first (licensed) stations on the air around 1921-ish.... > > When did the engineers discover directional antenna patterns? > > What year did the first directional array go into effect? > > The technology (if you can call it that) has been around for a long > time....but seems rather "hi-tech" for the 20's and 30's..... > > > From nostaticatall@charter.net Sat Sep 1 14:49:43 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 14:49:43 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com><009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <5f6af29826d6440d9a40cf9a2df693fc@charter.net> <00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> Message-ID: <8c7cad00f0e03dcdf720b2fdd0273818@charter.net> On Sep 1, 2007, at 5:01 AM, Don A wrote: >>> One of the reasons WKLB wanted to get off of 99.5...is the terrible >>> signal they have on the South Shore. >>> Why would they want to put sucessful programming on an inferior >>> signal? >> 99.5 is still a better signal than 850... > > Can say I agree with that. Yeah, sure. How great is 850 after dark much outside of 128? It sucks. How about 850 during the day in Worcester county and Southern New Hampshire, the fastest growing regions of the Boston metro? It sucks. 99.5? Crystal clear in those areas. As far as South Shore goes, it's been mentioned that 103.7 fills the gaps in that region nicely. 99.5 coupled with 103.7 on the South shore and 102.9 in extreme southeast corners of the market would give WEEI improved coverage over the ENTIRE ADI, day and night. >>> Why would they want to enable another sports outlet in Boston? >>> I would think they would want *all* sports listeners on one station. >> But there is a segment of the audience who may want a more national >> perspective. ESPN would provide that.... > > And where would that audience come from? Probably WEEI. So under your scenario, Entercom allows another broadcast company to pick up ESPN and potentially use it against WEEI, and you'd be OK with that. Greater Media could easily pick it up and put it on 92.9 along with some local hosts and take WEEI on head to head. CBS radio could do the same thing on 104.1. But, since you love 850 so much, you'd just wait for another company to put sports on FM and blow you out of the water, much the same way GM signed on WTKK and is now poised to surpass WRKO as the talk station in Boston once they get Howie. ESPN on 850 would be a flanker station for WEEI. It parks ESPN on a co-owned station and more importantly KEEPS IT AWAY FROM A COMPETITOR!! Is this so hard to figure out? As long as the ratings go to the same company, who cares? Entercom didn't care when they took the Red Sox off 850, because the ratings and revenue will go to the same place. The same thing would happen if WEEI moved to 99.5 and ESPN came over to 850. Sports is HUGE in this town, and it's just a matter of time before an all sports station comes to FM. WEEI will need to make this move before someone else does, and acquiring the ESPN affiliation (while also keeping Fox Sports Radio) would discourage other stations from jumping in. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" From madprof@ix.netcom.com Sat Sep 1 15:26:51 2007 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:26:51 -0400 Subject: Re Re: Di-Rectional..... Message-ID: <380-22007961192651562@ix.netcom.com> Kevin Vahey & Dan Strassberg - you rate an extreme appreciation award, and a "you rock, man!" for pointing to WFLA / WSUN as 1st (WSUN says so!) directional site. I've seen the Gandy Causeway towers, and never thought to check the history. I'd never thought to wonder where was 1st direx site, Thanks to Don A for the spark! yes, Google search shows much....(woo! thrill!) Including Barry Mishkind's listing "Radio Roots Discovered at Tampa Bay" which has a color pix at the Gandy Causeway!!! (not as clear as Scott's pix are tho) Don - you are ever so correct, re computing power having eased creating a direction array plan. I recall a pre 1950 Engineering book, found at Worcester Poly Institute, which had an article & photos of a oscilloscope with input circuitry to simulate array pattern, with controls (pots) to provide tower / array parameters. Today, ridiculously inaccurate, years back, saved much manual pre-calculation time Bob Sutherlan From madprof@ix.netcom.com Sat Sep 1 15:45:39 2007 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:45:39 -0400 Subject: vintage WLW photo on eBay Message-ID: <380-2200796119453946@ix.netcom.com> "Radio Station Tower WLW Cinncinnati Ohio 1937 RARE" http://cgi.ebay.com/Radio-Station-Tower-WLW-Cinncinnati-Ohio-1937-RARE_W0QQi temZ150156171764QQihZ005QQcategoryZ132QQcmdZViewItem (caution due to line wrap) Bo From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Sep 1 16:22:19 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 16:22:19 -0400 Subject: Re Re: Di-Rectional..... References: <380-22007961192651562@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <001701c7ecd5$cea334a0$2aa64c0c@SatU205S5044> Although the Tampa 620's current pattern is very similar to the original 1930s version (still protects WTMJ and only WTMJ--except for incidental protections to stations built after the '30s--that is, just about all of them) and the tower spacing and electrical parameters are probably quite similar, the current 620 site on the west side of Tampa Bay is NOT the 1930s site. This site was built in--I think--the '50s (maybe even the '60s) and was extensively rebuilt in the last year or two. The towers had to be shortened and strengthered to comply with new hurricane-safety requirements and to rectify the ravages of salt-air corrosion over many decades. Zoning restrictions precluded replacing the towers; they had to be shortened and repaired, which surely must have cost a lot more than a complete replacement would have. A slight power increase compensates for the loss of efficiency caused by the height reduction. In addition, although it remains licensed for approximately 5 kW, 620 has been running a nominal 10 kW (now a bit more) under STA for several decades to compensate for coverage lost to Cuban jamming. There have been many postings about the original site on Barry Mishkind's Broadcast Engineering mailing list. Somewhere in Barry's archives, you will find the location of the original site. My understanding is that it is both south and east of the current site. I believe that all that remains--hidden in the marsh grass--are the crumbling footings of the original towers. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert F. Sutherland" To: Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:26 PM Subject: Re Re: Di-Rectional..... > Kevin Vahey & Dan Strassberg - you rate an extreme appreciation > award, > and a "you rock, man!" > for pointing to WFLA / WSUN as 1st (WSUN says so!) directional > site. > I've seen the Gandy Causeway towers, and never thought to check the > history. > > I'd never thought to wonder where was 1st direx site, > Thanks to Don A for the spark! > > yes, Google search shows much....(woo! thrill!) > Including Barry Mishkind's listing "Radio Roots Discovered at Tampa > Bay" > which has a color pix at the Gandy Causeway!!! (not as clear as > Scott's > pix are tho) > > Don - you are ever so correct, re computing power having > eased creating a direction array plan. > I recall a pre 1950 Engineering book, found at > Worcester Poly Institute, which had an article & photos of a > oscilloscope > with input circuitry to simulate array pattern, with controls (pots) > to provide tower / array parameters. Today, ridiculously > inaccurate, > years back, saved much manual pre-calculation time > > Bob Sutherlan > From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Sep 1 16:24:38 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 16:24:38 -0400 Subject: Re Re: Di-Rectional..... In-Reply-To: <380-22007961192651562@ix.netcom.com> References: <380-22007961192651562@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770709011324q63b853fajeb47897f37aeffe6@mail.gmail.com> Today the former WSUN is sportsblab WDAE http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/info?call=WDAE&service=AM From ssmyth@psualum.com Sat Sep 1 10:02:09 2007 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 07:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <4fc429770709010657s31c1a4cbr2025262939065d16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <305700.50671.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: > Entercom has something planned for WCRB but what? I really can see > ESPN landing on 590 especially if Salem winds up with 850. I think > the > AM landscape in Boston is going to see a drastic change. I can't see > 890 staying ESPN as the night signal even with the boost still fights > WLS. Didn't Salem already have 890 once? Or did it never finalize the deal to buy the station? I would be surprised if ESPN didn't come in and plunk down some bucks for a Boston station, given that it's important advertising-wise. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From wollman@csail.mit.edu Sat Sep 1 16:41:24 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 16:41:24 -0400 Subject: "Touch 106.1 FM Reference in Globe Calendar In-Reply-To: <20070831194342.B58851F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070831194342.B58851F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <18137.52852.998356.673195@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > duly licensed station broadcasting on 105.7 mHz atop the Pru. I wasn't aware that broadcasting was possible at such a low frequency. That would have to have a wavelength upwards of 28 billion meters! -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Sep 1 19:26:32 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 19:26:32 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold References: <305700.50671.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000b01c7ecef$8c22d3a0$e6a34c0c@SatU205S5044> Salem had an agreement to buy 890--I think from Douglas, but I am not by any means sure. Their plan was to move the transmitter to the WEZE site, where Salem apparently wanted to add three towers between the existing two. The idea was technically unsound on several levels and I am surprised that it got as far as it did. Nighttime coverage would have been zilch (North Shore only; nothing in Boston or anywhere to the west). AND, as it turns out, to avoid nighttime interference to WCBS, it was essential to have the very tall towers, which the Ashland site has but the Medford site couldn't. In the end, buyer and seller unwound the deal and if I recall correctly (which I may not), a month or two later, the deal with Mega was announced. Mega may have paid less than Salem was going to pay. Technically, the best thing that happened to the station was Alex Langer's decision to proceed with the night upgrade to 1060, which originally developed the Ashland site in 1980/81. Langer spent a bundle and put the site in tip-top condition, installing separate ATU buildings and phasing networks for 890 and 1060. He also replaced the ground system, which had originally been rather exceptional (240 radials way over 1/4 wavelength--even at 890). The new ground system has only 120 radials (same length as the originals) but the old one had been just about destroyed by dirt bikers. The recent night upgrade to 6 kW was the second most important improvement. Turns out it was a much bigger job than it appeared because a high-tension power line about a mile east of the transmitter site had to be detuned to make it work. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Smyth" To: "Kevin Vahey" Cc: Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: Re: If 890 is sold > Kevin Vahey wrote: >> Entercom has something planned for WCRB but what? I really can see >> ESPN landing on 590 especially if Salem winds up with 850. I think >> the >> AM landscape in Boston is going to see a drastic change. I can't >> see >> 890 staying ESPN as the night signal even with the boost still >> fights >> WLS. > > Didn't Salem already have 890 once? Or did it never finalize the > deal > to buy the station? > > I would be surprised if ESPN didn't come in and plunk down some > bucks > for a Boston station, given that it's important advertising-wise. > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's > updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Sep 1 19:54:05 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 19:54:05 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com><009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2><5f6af29826d6440d9a40cf9a2df693fc@charter.net><00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <8c7cad00f0e03dcdf720b2fdd0273818@charter.net> Message-ID: <013d01c7ecf3$66fd8fd0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> >>>> One of the reasons WKLB wanted to get off of 99.5...is the terrible >>>> signal they have on the South Shore. >>>> Why would they want to put sucessful programming on an inferior signal? >>> 99.5 is still a better signal than 850... >> >> Can't say I agree with that. > > Yeah, sure. How great is 850 after dark much outside of 128? It sucks. Can't agree with that. I live outside 128 and it comes in crystal clear all the time. > How about 850 during the day in Worcester county and Southern New > Hampshire, the fastest growing regions of the Boston metro? It sucks. > 99.5? Crystal clear in those areas. 99.5 in the South Shore? Sucks. (And the Boston metro ends at the NH border for the most part...and ends at Worcester Country.) > As far as South Shore goes, it's been mentioned that 103.7 fills the gaps > in that region nicely. So you'd be filling in part of the Boston metro with a station licensed to Rhode Island? Not to mention that 103.7 already exists. Not a great Idea. What basically you are doing is adding lots of land populated with trees to the coverage area. For what reason I don't know. 103.7 is there either way. >>over the ENTIRE ADI When was the last time someone asked for an ADI quote? > So under your scenario, Entercom allows another broadcast company to pick > up ESPN and potentially use it against WEEI, and you'd be OK with that. That's what is happening now. And WEEI is OK with this. > Greater Media could easily pick it up and put it on 92.9 along with some > local hosts and take WEEI on head to head. CBS radio could do the same > thing on 104.1. But, since you love 850 so much, you'd just wait for > another company to put sports on FM... So, you would put your already wildly sucessful format on an inferior signal because you are afraid of what *might* happen? You can stay awake all night running thru "boogie-man" scenarios. > It parks ESPN on a co-owned station and more importantly KEEPS IT AWAY > FROM A COMPETITOR!! ESPN National is a non-entitiy in cities where they have a dominant local sports station. Every format leader could waste their time and resources thinking about what would happen if a competitor took dead aim at them. Never mind flipping to a out of town signal just to beat them to FM. > Is this so hard to figure out? No, it's easy to figure out. > As long as the ratings go to the same company, who cares? Thats a big assumption.. The scenario I would draw is that if they put WEEI on 99.5....WBOS and WBCN might look an opportunity to go head-to-heard with the format. (Seeing the weakness of 99.5's signal.) From nostaticatall@charter.net Sat Sep 1 23:06:08 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:06:08 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <013d01c7ecf3$66fd8fd0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com><009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2><5f6af29826d6440d9a40cf9a2df693fc@charter.net><00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <8c7cad00f0e03dcdf720b2fdd0273818@charter.net> <013d01c7ecf3$66fd8fd0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> Message-ID: <1cd8b64d14068c994de36f1e72f781fd@charter.net> On Sep 1, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Don A wrote: >>>>> One of the reasons WKLB wanted to get off of 99.5...is the terrible >>>>> signal they have on the South Shore. >>>>> Why would they want to put sucessful programming on an inferior >>>>> signal? >>>> 99.5 is still a better signal than 850... >>> >>> Can't say I agree with that. >> >> Yeah, sure. How great is 850 after dark much outside of 128? It >> sucks. > > Can't agree with that. I live outside 128 and it comes in crystal > clear all the time. I live in Metrowest. It sucks. I live closer to WVEI and that's even worse. However, 99.5 comes in just fine.... > >> How about 850 during the day in Worcester county and Southern New >> Hampshire, the fastest growing regions of the Boston metro? It >> sucks. 99.5? Crystal clear in those areas. > > 99.5 in the South Shore? Sucks. So does 850, particularly after sunset. Plus it's AM. And 850 sucks during the day in a lot of outlying areas of the market. Funny thing. Since WKLB and WCRB switched frequencies, their ratings have pretty much remained the same overall to what they were before. At the end of the day, I'd rather have WEEI on an FM station that more people can hear at night then on an AM frequency that doesn't cover the suburbs very well. Why do you think Entercom took the Red Sox games off 850? Because the signal sucks. > (And the Boston metro ends at the NH border for the most part...and > ends at Worcester Country.) Wrong. Worcester is an embedded market within Boston. So are the southernmost counties of New Hampshire. These areas are growing in population, while many of the suburbs closest to town are losing people. If this trend continues, stations that can reach these growth areas will have an advantage in the ratings. 99.5 can get there. 850 can't. >> >> As far as South Shore goes, it's been mentioned that 103.7 fills the >> gaps in that region nicely. > > So you'd be filling in part of the Boston metro with a station > licensed to Rhode Island? So? It's not that big of an affected area, and improving night service to the rest of the market outweighs a few outlying areas of the South Shore not getting optimum coverage. > > Not to mention that 103.7 already exists. And it placed in the Spring Book in Boston, probably due to people south of the market tuning in since 850 is so unreliable. > Not a great Idea. Personally, I think it's brilliant, and my guess is the suits at Entercom were also thinking it when they made the deal for 99.5. > What basically you are doing is adding lots of land populated with > trees to the coverage area. > For what reason I don't know. It's because the market is expanding geographically. It's no longer just the city and the burbs around 128. It's much bigger, something a directional AM signal cannot cover as well as an FM, even a suburban FM. >> So under your scenario, Entercom allows another broadcast company to >> pick up ESPN and potentially use it against WEEI, and you'd be OK >> with that. > > That's what is happening now. And WEEI is OK with this. On a flea powered AM that doesn't even cover half the market during the day, and barely covers Framingham at night. Of course Entercom is OK with this. However, if WBOS or WBCN ever decided to launch an FM sportstalker with local hosts and ESPN to fill the off hours, WEEI would not be OK with this. > >> Greater Media could easily pick it up and put it on 92.9 along with >> some local hosts and take WEEI on head to head. CBS radio could do >> the same thing on 104.1. But, since you love 850 so much, you'd just >> wait for another company to put sports on FM... > > So, you would put your already wildly sucessful format on an inferior > signal because you are afraid of what *might* happen? No, I'd put my wildly successful station on an FM signal that covers most of the market, day and night. Not because of fear, because of the opportunity to make the station even more wildly successful. >> It parks ESPN on a co-owned station and more importantly KEEPS IT >> AWAY FROM A COMPETITOR!! > > ESPN National is a non-entitiy in cities where they have a dominant > local sports station. > Every format leader could waste their time and resources thinking > about what would happen if a competitor took dead aim at them. > Never mind flipping to a out of town signal just to beat them to FM. It's called being pro-active. Talk is moving to FM in many markets. Sports talk is far and away the most popular type in Boston. WRKO took that same attitude with WTKK. Oh, no big deal. However, while their 12+ numbers tend to be lower than WRKO's, WTKK tends to do better 25-54. And once Howie moves to 96.9, 680 is toast. I think Entercom learned their lesson on that one. If WEEI is to continue being successful in the coming years, it needs to move to FM. If they don't, someone else will try it. >> As long as the ratings go to the same company, who cares? > > Thats a big assumption.. Not really. Clusters program their stations to compliment each other all the time. WXKS-FM and WJMN share quite a few music titles between them and compete against each other in the younger demos, yet the stations are co-owned and both are successful. The entire existance of WROR and WBOS is to support WMJX. You can have similarly formatted stations work together and have them all be successful. > The scenario I would draw is that if they put WEEI on 99.5....WBOS and > WBCN might look an opportunity to go head-to-heard with the format. > (Seeing the weakness of 99.5's signal.) They could do it now but thus far haven't. My guess is that younger sports talk fans would gravitate to an FM station if the product is decent. WEEI on FM against a WBOS or WBCN wouldn't make much difference. People still would tune to WEEI because of heritage and their proven personalities. 99.5 doesn't get to parts of the South Shore. Big deal. 103.7 does. 850 doesn't get out much past Natick at night, and barely makes it to Worcester county (part of the Boston market) at all. Why did the Sox games get taken off 850? Because the signal is NON-EXISTANT at night in Metrowest, where a LOT of people who get diaries live and work. 99.5 would alleviate that problem, despite your love for the static-y AM signal. From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Sep 2 01:02:38 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:02:38 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <1cd8b64d14068c994de36f1e72f781fd@charter.net> References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com> <009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <5f6af29826d6440d9a40cf9a2df693fc@charter.net> <00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <8c7cad00f0e03dcdf720b2fdd0273818@charter.net> <013d01c7ecf3$66fd8fd0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <1cd8b64d14068c994de36f1e72f781fd@charter.net> Message-ID: <4fc429770709012202m2be45677u7b283a49c851f793@mail.gmail.com> I think it is obvious WCRB staying classical is remote.The joker in this is the fate of D&C and where they wind up. BCN is my best guess as with the Pats starting and baseball playoffs looming now is the time to flip plus they could move the Bruins from BZ. BCN is dead in the water right now. I think the drops this week. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sun Sep 2 01:03:11 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:03:11 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com><009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2><5f6af29826d6440d9a40cf9a2df693fc@charter.net><00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2><8c7cad00f0e03dcdf720b2fdd0273818@charter.net><013d01c7ecf3$66fd8fd0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <1cd8b64d14068c994de36f1e72f781fd@charter.net> Message-ID: <015b01c7ed1e$98666e40$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> > I live in Metrowest. It sucks. I live closer to WVEI and that's even > worse. However, 99.5 comes in just fine.... I live in NH. 850AM comes in great day and night. > So does 850, particularly after sunset. Plus it's AM. And 850 sucks > during the day in a lot of outlying areas of the market. I have never had an issue with it...anywhere in the metro. > Why do you think Entercom took the Red Sox games off 850? Because the > signal sucks. Are we comparing RKO/EEI? If so, I agre, RKO has the better signal. > Wrong. Worcester is an embedded market within Boston. Sorry. Worcester is not in the metro. > So are the southernmost counties of New Hampshire. The closest county to Boston is Rockingham. It's not in the metro either. >> So you'd be filling in part of the Boston metro with a station licensed >> to Rhode Island? > > So? So, the strongest part of these two signals will not be over Boston. The area with the densest populations will not have the strongest signal. > Personally, I think it's brilliant... We'll see if Entercom agrees with your brilliance! > It's because the market is expanding geographically. It's no longer just > the city and the burbs around 128. The ARB metro hasn't changed much...since they added those areas like hubbarston and petersham years ago. >> That's what is happening now. And WEEI is OK with this. > > On a flea powered AM that doesn't even cover half the market during the > day, and barely covers Framingham at night. Same thing in NYC. WEPN is not really a factor due to WFAN's dominance and localness. Is WEPN flea powered too? >> So, you would put your already wildly sucessful format on an inferior >> signal because you are afraid of what *might* happen? > > No, I'd put my wildly successful station on an FM signal that covers most > of the market, day and night. Nest time you see a diary review...see how many diaries south of Boston list WCRB... Or WKLB before that. > It's called being pro-active. It's called gambling. And with WEEI already wildly sucessful for Entercom....I hardly think they will roll the dice with the scheme you suggested. But....if I am wrong, you get a heartfelt apology from me.... ;-) From HeritageRadio@msn.com Sun Sep 2 02:14:56 2007 From: HeritageRadio@msn.com (thomas heathwood) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:14:56 -0500 Subject: Howie Carr Message-ID: I would think a strategic part of planning the switchover of Howie to 96.9 would be the serious consideration by the powers that be -to place Howie in the same time slot he enjoys at the moment on 680. This would help insure no loss of audience in the local market, and would make the adjustment for the audience considerably more convenient. Jerry Williams always contended that the afternoon/early evening hours were superior. Tom Heathwood 9/2 From wollman@csail.mit.edu Sun Sep 2 01:53:41 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:53:41 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <000b01c7ecef$8c22d3a0$e6a34c0c@SatU205S5044> References: <305700.50671.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <000b01c7ecef$8c22d3a0$e6a34c0c@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <18138.20453.558327.779365@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Technically, the best thing that happened to the station was Alex > Langer's decision to proceed with the night upgrade to 1060, which > originally developed the Ashland site in 1980/81. How quickly we forget! Alex didn't do that, it was Bradford Bleidt, the swindler, who did built the 1060 upgrade. Langer eventually got 1060 back through the courts, as Bleidt still owed him on the original purchase of the station. -GAWollman From paul@derrynh.net Sun Sep 2 03:31:33 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:31:33 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <015b01c7ed1e$98666e40$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> Message-ID: <001601c7ed33$4ad55b40$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> Don A... WEEI does NOT come in great at all times.... I live in Derry and drive to Concord many nights at the 1/2 before sunset to 1/2 after sunset time frame, and WREF Ridgefield CT plays havoc with 'EEI's signal. Lucky for EEI it's daytime only, or the skywave to NH would be just perfect to make EEI unlistenable all night long! If you live further east than the 93 corridor, maybe it is not quite the issue, not to mention that if you look at WEEI's signal pattern, the Seacoast and So Maine would obviously get a better signal than even the 128-495 corridor... -Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Don A Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 1:03 AM To: David Tomm Cc: BRI Subject: Re: If 890 is sold > I live in Metrowest. It sucks. I live closer to WVEI and that's even > worse. However, 99.5 comes in just fine.... I live in NH. 850AM comes in great day and night. > So does 850, particularly after sunset. Plus it's AM. And 850 sucks > during the day in a lot of outlying areas of the market. I have never had an issue with it...anywhere in the metro. > Why do you think Entercom took the Red Sox games off 850? Because the > signal sucks. Are we comparing RKO/EEI? If so, I agre, RKO has the better signal. > Wrong. Worcester is an embedded market within Boston. Sorry. Worcester is not in the metro. > So are the southernmost counties of New Hampshire. The closest county to Boston is Rockingham. It's not in the metro either. >> So you'd be filling in part of the Boston metro with a station licensed >> to Rhode Island? > > So? So, the strongest part of these two signals will not be over Boston. The area with the densest populations will not have the strongest signal. > Personally, I think it's brilliant... We'll see if Entercom agrees with your brilliance! > It's because the market is expanding geographically. It's no longer just > the city and the burbs around 128. The ARB metro hasn't changed much...since they added those areas like hubbarston and petersham years ago. >> That's what is happening now. And WEEI is OK with this. > > On a flea powered AM that doesn't even cover half the market during the > day, and barely covers Framingham at night. Same thing in NYC. WEPN is not really a factor due to WFAN's dominance and localness. Is WEPN flea powered too? >> So, you would put your already wildly sucessful format on an inferior >> signal because you are afraid of what *might* happen? > > No, I'd put my wildly successful station on an FM signal that covers most > of the market, day and night. Nest time you see a diary review...see how many diaries south of Boston list WCRB... Or WKLB before that. > It's called being pro-active. It's called gambling. And with WEEI already wildly sucessful for Entercom....I hardly think they will roll the dice with the scheme you suggested. But....if I am wrong, you get a heartfelt apology from me.... ;-) From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Sep 2 09:55:09 2007 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:55:09 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <8c7cad00f0e03dcdf720b2fdd0273818@charter.net> References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com> <009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <5f6af29826d6440d9a40cf9a2df693fc@charter.net> <00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <8c7cad00f0e03dcdf720b2fdd0273818@charter.net> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0709020655w57ee6528y8a41f2370b3937e4@mail.gmail.com> >>ESPN on 850 would be a flanker station for WEEI. It parks ESPN on a co-owned station and more importantly KEEPS IT AWAY FROM A COMPETITOR!! Yes...most people would be tuning to the local sports talk and play by play on a WEEI on FM, and things like _some_ talk and sports play by play (including baseball playoffs) from ESPN would be on the AM. (Or perhaps also broadcast on the FM when possible.) This is kind of like what happens when the Yankees pick up a player not only because they might contribute to their own team, but it keeps the Red Sox away from picking up that player. btw Entercom Memphis has pulled the plug on progressive talk in Elvis-land. Libtalk has left the building at WSMB 680. The blog author notes that Entercom gives heavily to Democrats but prog. talk wasn't helping their bottom line in Memphis, Sacramento, and New Orleans (they still have the format on in Buffalo and Rochester). The new format at the Memphis outlet? "Fox Sports 680". Are you ready for some football? http://ltradio.blogspot.com/2007/08/dont-be-cruel.html From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Sep 2 10:00:44 2007 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:00:44 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <1cd8b64d14068c994de36f1e72f781fd@charter.net> References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com> <009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <5f6af29826d6440d9a40cf9a2df693fc@charter.net> <00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <8c7cad00f0e03dcdf720b2fdd0273818@charter.net> <013d01c7ecf3$66fd8fd0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <1cd8b64d14068c994de36f1e72f781fd@charter.net> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0709020700x1af18baau451673eef9b191dc@mail.gmail.com> WEEI on 99.5 would be great for me esp. at work since I'm in N. Reading and the signal from 99.5's stick in Andover comes in very well. 850 does indeed have weak spots...as for 99.5 not being a good signal on the South Shore, how does 97.7 do? They could put it there, too. The 103.7 from Westerly prob. helps, too. > At the end of the day, I'd rather have WEEI on an FM station that more > people can hear at night then on an AM frequency that doesn't cover the > suburbs very well. Why do you think Entercom took the Red Sox games > off 850? Because the signal sucks. > Personally, I think it's brilliant, and my guess is the suits at > Entercom were also thinking it when they made the deal for 99.5. Yes. And once Howie moves to 96.9, 680 is toast. I think Entercom > learned their lesson on that one. If WEEI is to continue being > successful in the coming years, it needs to move to FM. If they don't, > someone else will try it. Yes--whether or not it would be on 850 as well I would expect WEEI to be on FM in Boston soon...as it already is in Westerly and Easthampton (when I was in Hartford area yesterday, could pick up both of those FMs.) Why did the Sox games get taken off 850? Because the > signal is NON-EXISTANT at night in Metrowest, where a LOT of people who > get diaries live and work. 99.5 would alleviate that problem, despite > your love for the static-y AM signal. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Sep 2 10:02:35 2007 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:02:35 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <015b01c7ed1e$98666e40$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com> <009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <5f6af29826d6440d9a40cf9a2df693fc@charter.net> <00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <8c7cad00f0e03dcdf720b2fdd0273818@charter.net> <013d01c7ecf3$66fd8fd0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <1cd8b64d14068c994de36f1e72f781fd@charter.net> <015b01c7ed1e$98666e40$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0709020702h10e32427t9ad1657d22262ed2@mail.gmail.com> >>Same thing in NYC. WEPN is not really a factor due to WFAN's dominance and localness. Is WEPN flea powered too? Doesn't WEPN do some local shows too? I know they do "_New York_ Sportscenters" at night (i.e., their "20/20" updates are localized not from the network) From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Sep 2 10:05:38 2007 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:05:38 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1fbbbced0709020705p7e6cc5d2vffe87ed520eb797e@mail.gmail.com> Good point; I can't remember if Howie said he'd love to do mornings but I know he'd love to be on a static-free, no-fade-at-sunset FM station. Idea: Graham or Eagan & Braude in morning drive; Severin in early afternoon opp. Rush (or poss. morning drive but I am not sure he'd want that), Howie in pm drive. On 9/2/07, thomas heathwood wrote: > I would think a strategic part of planning the switchover of Howie to 96.9 would be the serious consideration > by the powers that be -to place Howie in the same time slot he enjoys at the moment on 680. From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Sep 2 10:33:19 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:33:19 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0709020702h10e32427t9ad1657d22262ed2@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com> <009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <5f6af29826d6440d9a40cf9a2df693fc@charter.net> <00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <8c7cad00f0e03dcdf720b2fdd0273818@charter.net> <013d01c7ecf3$66fd8fd0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <1cd8b64d14068c994de36f1e72f781fd@charter.net> <015b01c7ed1e$98666e40$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <1fbbbced0709020702h10e32427t9ad1657d22262ed2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770709020733l6397d544h69e32743d668bdcb@mail.gmail.com> WEPN simply has no night signal west of the Hudson and CHUM causes problems upstate. As far as 850 at night in Chelmsford they are killed by a station in Penn Yan, NY that never goes to night power. Scott is familar with them. When CKVL was still on they also killed EEI and I suspect they never went to night pattern either. On 9/2/07, Bob Nelson wrote: > >>Same thing in NYC. WEPN is not really a factor due to WFAN's dominance > and > localness. Is WEPN flea powered too? > > Doesn't WEPN do some local shows too? I know they do "_New York_ > Sportscenters" > at night (i.e., their "20/20" updates are localized not from the network) > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sun Sep 2 10:34:21 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:34:21 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold References: <001601c7ed33$4ad55b40$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: <002b01c7ed6e$5e4d7af0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> > WEEI does NOT come in great at all times.... 1. For me it does. 2. It doesn't matter.....Derry isn't in the Metro From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Sun Sep 2 11:24:38 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0709020705p7e6cc5d2vffe87ed520eb797e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <58965.61375.qm@web58314.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Bob Nelson wrote: > Good point; I can't remember if Howie said he'd love to do mornings > but I know he'd > love to be on a static-free, no-fade-at-sunset FM station. Idea: > Graham or Eagan & Braude > in morning drive; Severin in early afternoon opp. Rush (or poss. > morning drive but I am not sure he'd want that), Howie in pm drive. Once the Imus card falls, everything else shall follow quickly. 96.9 well could have Imus in AM drive and Carr and his regional network in FM drive. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Sep 2 11:28:01 2007 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:28:01 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <58965.61375.qm@web58314.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <1fbbbced0709020705p7e6cc5d2vffe87ed520eb797e@mail.gmail.com> <58965.61375.qm@web58314.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0709020828k617f9990m40c9f648a6ee3de7@mail.gmail.com> PM drive (you typed FM drive :)...happens to me too when I type fast) Who gets squeezed out, then, Graham or E&B? No room for all them AND Severin (big investment) unless shows get cut down a bit time-wise. From me@billoneill.us Sun Sep 2 14:28:16 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:28:16 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <8c7cad00f0e03dcdf720b2fdd0273818@charter.net> References: <4fc429770708312020o1ea848b1saa4b0bebc6e1b83@mail.gmail.com><009501c7ec68$76a139e0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <5f6af29826d6440d9a40cf9a2df693fc@charter.net> <00ce01c7ec76$b693e3f0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> <8c7cad00f0e03dcdf720b2fdd0273818@charter.net> Message-ID: <46DB00C0.9030109@billoneill.us> David Tomm wrote: > would give WEEI improved coverage over the ENTIRE ADI, day and night. > And that would make much more sense than trying to distribute a decidedly Boston product to northern New England where it would struggle. Bill O'Neill From me@billoneill.us Sun Sep 2 14:32:12 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:32:12 -0400 Subject: Re Re: Di-Rectional..... In-Reply-To: <001701c7ecd5$cea334a0$2aa64c0c@SatU205S5044> References: <380-22007961192651562@ix.netcom.com> <001701c7ecd5$cea334a0$2aa64c0c@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <46DB01AC.70404@billoneill.us> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > In addition, although it remains > licensed for approximately 5 kW, 620 has been running a nominal 10 kW > (now a bit more) under STA for several decades to compensate for > coverage lost to Cuban jamming. What is the method employed by Cuba to jam signals in such a way? Bill O'Neill From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Sep 2 14:53:50 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:53:50 -0400 Subject: Re Re: Di-Rectional..... References: <380-22007961192651562@ix.netcom.com> <001701c7ecd5$cea334a0$2aa64c0c@SatU205S5044> <46DB01AC.70404@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <000901c7ed92$9d39fda0$d3a54c0c@SatU205S5044> I don't have much knowledge of it. I think some is simply broadcasting Cuban programming with fairly powerful signals on the same frequencies as US stations. And of course no Cuban AMs use directional antennas, which, if they existed in Cuba, might protect stations in other countries. But I think that, at various times, Cuba has run various sorts of noise-makers on frequencies occupied by US AMs whose program content the Cubans found particularly annoying. One type that the Russians apparently used in Europe sounded kind of like a rusty wagon wheel. (Disclaimer: Since I've never actually heard a rusty wagon wheel, I'd have to say that the recording I heard sounded like what I imagine a rusty wagon wheel sounds like.) ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: "Robert F. Sutherland" ; Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Re Re: Di-Rectional..... > Dan.Strassberg wrote: >> In addition, although it remains >> licensed for approximately 5 kW, 620 has been running a nominal 10 >> kW >> (now a bit more) under STA for several decades to compensate for >> coverage lost to Cuban jamming. > > What is the method employed by Cuba to jam signals in such a way? > > Bill O'Neill From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Sep 2 14:59:31 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:59:31 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold References: <305700.50671.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com><000b01c7ecef$8c22d3a0$e6a34c0c@SatU205S5044> <18138.20453.558327.779365@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <001b01c7ed93$68b89090$d3a54c0c@SatU205S5044> This is my third resend; this apparently didn't get through the first three times I tried to send it. My apologies to anyone who has already seen it. Wrong! I'm pretty sure that LANGER built the 1060 upgrade!!! AFAIK, completing the upgrade was a condition of his sale of the station to Bleidt. Moreover, all of the planning and design were done under Langer's aegis. Neither the sale from Langer to Bleidt nor the sale from Bleidt to Egan had closed while the work was under way. I think an application for transfer of control to Bleidt might have been tendered (and even been accepted for filing) once the license to cover was granted--BUT Langer continued to hold a note on the license and facilities, so there were probably some legal complexities related to the actual ownership even then. Moreovoer, that note and the conditions that Langer attached to it explain why the court pretty much had no alternative but to mandate transfer of the station back to Langer after Bleidt was taken into custody. However, most of the construction DID take place while Bleidt was LMAing the station from Langer. Nevertheless, AFAIK, neither Bleidt nor Egan ever officially owned WMEX/WBIX--but if I'm wrong about that, Bleidt was the official licenssee only for a very short time. The station has quite a history of such arrangements. Garabedian LMAed it first to a woman from Texas (I have no idea of her name) and she changed the calls to WSTD. When that deal collapsed after a year or so, Garabedian LMAed it to Pat Whitley and it became WTTP. I don't know about ownership vs LMAs during the ensuing period (of at least five years), but one of the owners or operators during that period was the licensee of WLQV Detroit, a Christian broadcaster. That company must have had a special affinity for AMs that couldn't get licenses to cover because of DA problems;>) And after Langer first got the station back on the air as WJLT, a 500W daytimer in (I think early 1997), the LMA partner was "pastor" Tim Horton's Great Commission Broadcasting. At some point, Horton ran into financial problems and maybe even legal difficulties and control reverted to Langer, who, at that time, definitely held the license. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 1:53 AM Subject: Re: If 890 is sold > < said: > >> Technically, the best thing that happened to the station was Alex >> Langer's decision to proceed with the night upgrade to 1060, which >> originally developed the Ashland site in 1980/81. > > How quickly we forget! Alex didn't do that, it was Bradford Bleidt, > the swindler, who did built the 1060 upgrade. Langer eventually got > 1060 back through the courts, as Bleidt still owed him on the > original > purchase of the station. > > -GAWollman > From kvahey@gmail.com Sun Sep 2 15:04:09 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:04:09 -0400 Subject: Re Re: Di-Rectional..... In-Reply-To: <000901c7ed92$9d39fda0$d3a54c0c@SatU205S5044> References: <380-22007961192651562@ix.netcom.com> <001701c7ecd5$cea334a0$2aa64c0c@SatU205S5044> <46DB01AC.70404@billoneill.us> <000901c7ed92$9d39fda0$d3a54c0c@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4fc429770709021204j7cc3b4epc4137f11aa132767@mail.gmail.com> A Celtics employee told me the team enjoyed a cult following in Bergen, Norway when the games were on 1510 From me@billoneill.us Sun Sep 2 15:16:41 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:16:41 -0400 Subject: If 890 is sold In-Reply-To: <001b01c7ed93$68b89090$d3a54c0c@SatU205S5044> References: <305700.50671.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com><000b01c7ecef$8c22d3a0$e6a34c0c@SatU205S5044> <18138.20453.558327.779365@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <001b01c7ed93$68b89090$d3a54c0c@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <46DB0C19.2020502@billoneill.us> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > The station has quite a history of such arrangements. Garabedian LMAed > it first to a woman from Texas (I have no idea of her name) and she > changed the calls to WSTD. Now, there's a set of calls that just keeps on giving. Bill O'Neill From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Sep 3 00:24:51 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 23:24:51 -0500 Subject: What station was this? Message-ID: <46DB4643.29989.750C1C@joe.attorneyross.com> Last night I was listening to WFCR while driving home from Western Massachusetts on the Turnpike. Sometime around the Natick exit, a station playing what sounded like Hispanic music started cutting in and out over WFCR. Around the Route 128 exit, WFCR disappeared and the other station took over. I checked, and it was right on 88.5, not above or below. I didn't think there was any licensed station on 88.5 around here. Could it be a pirate? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sun Sep 2 23:33:14 2007 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 23:33:14 -0400 Subject: What station was this? In-Reply-To: <46DB4643.29989.750C1C@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <006201c7eddb$2c49c000$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > Last night I was listening to WFCR while driving home from Western > Massachusetts on the Turnpike. Sometime around the Natick exit, a > station playing what sounded like Hispanic music started cutting in > and out over WFCR. Around the Route 128 exit, WFCR disappeared and > the other station took over. I checked, and it was right on 88.5, > not above or below. I didn't think there was any licensed station on > 88.5 around here. Could it be a pirate? Yes, there are at least 2 pirates in the area that broadcast in various languages. One that I know of is in Dorchester, the other in Dedham. Both have been issued notices of unlicensed operation by the FCC, but we all know how effective that is... There is also another 88.5 pirate in Brockton. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Sun Sep 2 23:37:29 2007 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 20:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: What station was this? In-Reply-To: <46DB4643.29989.750C1C@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <120288.38580.qm@web50812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> It's definately a "BOOT". The place is overrun by them. --- "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: > Last night I was listening to WFCR while driving > home from Western > Massachusetts on the Turnpike. Sometime around the > Natick exit, a > station playing what sounded like Hispanic music > started cutting in > and out over WFCR. Around the Route 128 exit, WFCR > disappeared and > the other station took over. I checked, and it was > right on 88.5, > not above or below. I didn't think there was any > licensed station on > 88.5 around here. Could it be a pirate? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. > 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax > 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 > http://www.attorneyross.com > > > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Sep 4 12:17:03 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:17:03 -0400 Subject: CBA Moncton Message-ID: <4fc429770709040917j4d59718djef9f7fcc056a8a52@mail.gmail.com> Scott probably knows better than anyone. Is CBA considered safe as AM continues to vanish in Canada? It really is the last strong CBC signal in the Northeast. http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/info?call=CBA&service=AM From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Sep 4 12:45:03 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:45:03 -0400 Subject: CBA Moncton References: <4fc429770709040917j4d59718djef9f7fcc056a8a52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000d01c7ef12$f45fb030$60a34c0c@SatU205S5044> Where've you been? As most readers of this list are aware, CBA will be going dark in the near future. I don't think the exact date has yet been announced, though; within the last couple of weeks, the CTRC straightened out a hassle with assigning a new frequency to the FM that that stood in the way of CBA's move to FM. And while the CBC always says beforehand that it has figured out where it needs translators to reach listeners who will no longer be able to hear the AM signal, my impression is that that is rarely, if ever, the case. So moves of CBC AMs to FM often seem to wind up with grace periods (AM-FM simulcasts) longer than the usual 90 days. The extra time, which the CRTC grants only after the CBC discovers that it has screwed up yet again, allows for allocating and constructing the several low-power FMs that are inevitably required. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 12:17 PM Subject: CBA Moncton > Scott probably knows better than anyone. > > Is CBA considered safe as AM continues to vanish in Canada? It > really > is the last strong CBC signal in the Northeast. > > http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/info?call=CBA&service=AM From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Sep 4 13:07:38 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:07:38 -0400 Subject: CBA Moncton In-Reply-To: <000d01c7ef12$f45fb030$60a34c0c@SatU205S5044> References: <4fc429770709040917j4d59718djef9f7fcc056a8a52@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c7ef12$f45fb030$60a34c0c@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4fc429770709041007udd2c3c5s80064537c805ffec@mail.gmail.com> I have never understood the folly of pulling CBC off of AM 1070 servers Nova Scotia, PEI and New Brunswick and no amount of FM repeaters will cover all the holes. So will 1070 then be opened up for someone else to take over like we saw in Montreal and Toronto? Meanwhile they won't touch CJBC 860 in Toronto in fear of angering the 3 people who speak French in Toronto.... On 9/4/07, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Where've you been? As most readers of this list are aware, CBA will be > going dark in the near future. I don't think the exact date has yet > been announced, though; within the last couple of weeks, the CTRC > straightened out a hassle with assigning a new frequency to the FM > that that stood in the way of CBA's move to FM. And while the CBC > always says beforehand that it has figured out where it needs > translators to reach listeners who will no longer be able to hear the > AM signal, my impression is that that is rarely, if ever, the case. So > moves of CBC AMs to FM often seem to wind up with grace periods (AM-FM > simulcasts) longer than the usual 90 days. The extra time, which the > CRTC grants only after the CBC discovers that it has screwed up yet > again, allows for allocating and constructing the several low-power > FMs that are inevitably required. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Vahey" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 12:17 PM > Subject: CBA Moncton > > > > Scott probably knows better than anyone. > > > > Is CBA considered safe as AM continues to vanish in Canada? It > > really > > is the last strong CBC signal in the Northeast. > > > > http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/info?call=CBA&service=AM > > From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Sep 5 00:38:56 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:38:56 -0500 Subject: CBA Moncton In-Reply-To: <4fc429770709040917j4d59718djef9f7fcc056a8a52@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770709040917j4d59718djef9f7fcc056a8a52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46DDEC90.10097.5385C6@joe.attorneyross.com> On 4 Sep 2007 at 12:17, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Is CBA considered safe as AM continues to vanish in Canada? It really > is the last strong CBC signal in the Northeast. Not as strong as it used to be. I used to listen to it regularly, along with CBL and CBM, but lately they seem to be overpowered by WTIC at 1080. I listen to CBC these days on the Internet. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 6 11:01:53 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:01:53 -0500 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc Message-ID: <20070906150153.84F8983BE6@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> A talk radio shuffle in Providence on Sept. 20 will have Rush Limbaugh moving from WPRO to WHJJ and Buddy Cianci back on the airwaves. Citadel's WPRO will have DePetro moving to 6 to 10 am, followed by Cianci & Ron St. Pierre middays, then an expanded Dan Yorke. All local-- as opposed to Clear Channel's WHJJ which will have Pittsburgh's Quinn and Rose in am drive followed by Beck, Limbaugh, and I guess Sean Hannity. (As far as I know, Helen Glover is gone from WHJJ unless they put her in 3-6 pm and move Hannity to tape-delayed, or move her to another slot). So WHJJ would have the powerful Rush (from Clear Channel's syndication arm, Premiere) added but there will apparently be no local hosts anywhere from 6 am to 6 pm, at least. It had been rumored Clear Channel would set up talk on its WKOX in Framingham and they could have put the likes of Beck and Rush there, but it hasn't happened. But Rush has indeed been placed on a Clear Channel property in Providence, though. By the way the change takes place on a Thu (two weeks from today). I'm guessing Rush's contract with WPRO expires after Sept. 19 (the same day Howie's contract with WRKO is to expire) so he'd be moved to WHJJ the next day. It's kind of weird to have a new show/new lineup premiere in the middle of the week rather than "starting fresh on a Monday" but I guess if a contract expires in the middle of the week, the change will also happen at that time. Similarly, Washington Post radio will give way to WWWT in D.C. on Sept. 20, a Thursday. From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Thu Sep 6 15:38:11 2007 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:38:11 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc Message-ID: <46E05723.2030400@Gmail.com> The Radio Raccoon wrote, > By the way the change takes place on a Thu (two weeks from today). > I'm guessing Rush's contract with WPRO expires after Sept. 19 (the > same day Howie's contract with WRKO is to expire) so he'd be moved > to WHJJ the next day. It's kind of weird to have a new show/new > lineup premiere in the middle of the week rather than "starting > fresh on a Monday" but I guess if a contract expires in the middle > of the week, the change will also happen at that time. > Similarly, Washington Post radio will give way to WWWT in D.C. > on Sept. 20, a Thursday. You have Arbitron to thank for that (ill)logic??Sept. 20th is the start of the Fall Book! P=/ ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From nostaticatall@charter.net Thu Sep 6 15:46:48 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:46:48 -0400 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc In-Reply-To: <20070906150153.84F8983BE6@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070906150153.84F8983BE6@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: September 20th is the first day of the fall book, which is why those midweek dates are there. My question is, did Clear Channel choose not to renew Rush on WPRO or was it Citadel? WHJJ has had it's problems over the last few years, and a mostly local lineup of talkers hasn't worked for them. Then they lost Imus. Outside of Helen Glover, who is a marginal host at best but has somewhat of a following in the market, what else did that station have? CC/Providence has been competing against Rush for years, despite being distributed by co-owned Premiere. They may have just decided to finally bring Rush in-house to stabilize the station. Or, it could be possible that WPRO dropped him. The bulk of his audience is rapidly entering 55+ land and Citadel may have decided to go with local hosts that appeal to younger demos. WPRO is also the news and information station for the market, and they may have wanted a more local lineup to help reinforce that image. WBAL in Baltimore dropped Rush last year for the same reasons. Looking at the Boston situation, I doubt that CC will move it's syndicated talkers to WKOX until the signal upgrade to 50,000 watts is complete. If 1200 doesn't have at least a comparable signal to WRKO during Rush's time slot, they won't risk putting him on a weaker stick, even if it is a CC property. If anything, I could see Premiere not renewing with WRKO and trying to get the show cleared on WTKK. Why would they want to keep Rush on that sinking ship? A lineup of Howie, Egan & Braude, Rush, Severin, and Graham Crackers at night would put WRKO out of it's misery once and for all. Caliente 680, anyone? -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > A talk radio shuffle in Providence on Sept. 20 will have Rush Limbaugh > moving from WPRO to WHJJ > and Buddy Cianci back on the airwaves. Citadel's WPRO will have > DePetro moving to 6 to 10 > am, followed by Cianci & Ron St. Pierre middays, then an expanded Dan > Yorke. All local-- > as opposed to Clear Channel's WHJJ which will have Pittsburgh's Quinn > and Rose in am > drive followed by Beck, Limbaugh, and I guess Sean Hannity. > > (As far as I know, Helen Glover is gone from WHJJ unless they put her > in 3-6 pm and > move Hannity to tape-delayed, or move her to another slot). So WHJJ > would have the > powerful Rush (from Clear Channel's syndication arm, Premiere) added > but there > will apparently be no local hosts anywhere from 6 am to 6 pm, at least. > > It had been rumored Clear Channel would set up talk on its WKOX in > Framingham and they could have put > the likes of Beck and Rush there, but it hasn't happened. But Rush has > indeed been placed > on a Clear Channel property in Providence, though. > > By the way the change takes place on a Thu (two weeks from today). I'm > guessing > Rush's contract with WPRO expires after Sept. 19 (the same day Howie's > contract with WRKO is to expire) so he'd be moved to WHJJ the next > day. It's > kind of weird to have a new show/new lineup premiere in the middle of > the > week rather than "starting fresh on a Monday" but I guess if a contract > expires in the middle of the week, the change will also happen at that > time. > Similarly, Washington Post radio will give way to WWWT in D.C. on > Sept. 20, > a Thursday. > From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Sep 6 16:03:48 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:03:48 -0400 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc In-Reply-To: References: <20070906150153.84F8983BE6@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770709061303g76744e22g676718293940aa33@mail.gmail.com> Buddy has been silent for almost 5 years. A lot has happened in RI starting with the fire. It should be good radio. Meanwhile Citadel has problems with WSKO which EEI just blew away. On 9/6/07, David Tomm wrote: > September 20th is the first day of the fall book, which is why those > midweek dates are there. > > My question is, did Clear Channel choose not to renew Rush on WPRO or > was it Citadel? WHJJ has had it's problems over the last few years, > and a mostly local lineup of talkers hasn't worked for them. Then they > lost Imus. Outside of Helen Glover, who is a marginal host at best but > has somewhat of a following in the market, what else did that station > have? CC/Providence has been competing against Rush for years, despite > being distributed by co-owned Premiere. They may have just decided to > finally bring Rush in-house to stabilize the station. > > Or, it could be possible that WPRO dropped him. The bulk of his > audience is rapidly entering 55+ land and Citadel may have decided to > go with local hosts that appeal to younger demos. WPRO is also the > news and information station for the market, and they may have wanted a > more local lineup to help reinforce that image. WBAL in Baltimore > dropped Rush last year for the same reasons. > > Looking at the Boston situation, I doubt that CC will move it's > syndicated talkers to WKOX until the signal upgrade to 50,000 watts is > complete. If 1200 doesn't have at least a comparable signal to WRKO > during Rush's time slot, they won't risk putting him on a weaker stick, > even if it is a CC property. If anything, I could see Premiere not > renewing with WRKO and trying to get the show cleared on WTKK. Why > would they want to keep Rush on that sinking ship? A lineup of Howie, > Egan & Braude, Rush, Severin, and Graham Crackers at night would put > WRKO out of it's misery once and for all. Caliente 680, anyone? > > -Dave Tomm > "Mike Thomas" > > On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > > > A talk radio shuffle in Providence on Sept. 20 will have Rush Limbaugh > > moving from WPRO to WHJJ > > and Buddy Cianci back on the airwaves. Citadel's WPRO will have > > DePetro moving to 6 to 10 > > am, followed by Cianci & Ron St. Pierre middays, then an expanded Dan > > Yorke. All local-- > > as opposed to Clear Channel's WHJJ which will have Pittsburgh's Quinn > > and Rose in am > > drive followed by Beck, Limbaugh, and I guess Sean Hannity. > > > > (As far as I know, Helen Glover is gone from WHJJ unless they put her > > in 3-6 pm and > > move Hannity to tape-delayed, or move her to another slot). So WHJJ > > would have the > > powerful Rush (from Clear Channel's syndication arm, Premiere) added > > but there > > will apparently be no local hosts anywhere from 6 am to 6 pm, at least. > > > > It had been rumored Clear Channel would set up talk on its WKOX in > > Framingham and they could have put > > the likes of Beck and Rush there, but it hasn't happened. But Rush has > > indeed been placed > > on a Clear Channel property in Providence, though. > > > > By the way the change takes place on a Thu (two weeks from today). I'm > > guessing > > Rush's contract with WPRO expires after Sept. 19 (the same day Howie's > > contract with WRKO is to expire) so he'd be moved to WHJJ the next > > day. It's > > kind of weird to have a new show/new lineup premiere in the middle of > > the > > week rather than "starting fresh on a Monday" but I guess if a contract > > expires in the middle of the week, the change will also happen at that > > time. > > Similarly, Washington Post radio will give way to WWWT in D.C. on > > Sept. 20, > > a Thursday. > > > > From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 6 16:31:14 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:31:14 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc Message-ID: <20070906203114.B1D0183BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> >>You have Arbitron to thank for that (ill)logic??Sept. 20th is the start of the Fall Book! P=/ Well that explains it, thanks! And I guess Howie's contract was set to expire on the day before the start of the fall book...the orig. plan btw was to have him on WTKK by Oct. 1 but who knows if that will happen. I'm guessing GM, if all the legal hassles are cleared up, would like to have him do some "practice shows" (get used to new studio, new hours, etc.) before an actual on-air debut. \ From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 6 16:36:27 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:36:27 -0500 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc Message-ID: <20070906203628.04BF483BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> >>September 20th is the first day of the fall book, which is why those midweek dates are there. Thanks for info! Maybe I'm just used to TV where daily shows will launch on a Monday, or move to a new time slot ("'Jeopardy', weeknights at 7 pm, starting Monday Sept 17"...) >>what else did that station have? CC/Providence has been competing against Rush for years, despite being distributed by co-owned Premiere. They may have just decided to finally bring Rush in-house to stabilize the station. Good point. You could look at it as "WHJJ now has the most popular syndie hosts--Rush, Beck, Hannity" or "Clear Channel's going the cheap route with syndie hosts". Or, as you say, have Rush go to 920 rather than compete against him. (Kind of ironic, that the new lineup debuts "9/20 on 920"... and 630, too) >>Or, it could be possible that WPRO dropped him. The bulk of his audience is rapidly entering 55+ land and Citadel may have decided to go with local hosts that appeal to younger demos. Right... >>Looking at the Boston situation, I doubt that CC will move it's syndicated talkers to WKOX until the signal upgrade to 50,000 watts is complete. When is that anyway? I thought I'd heard "August" but still no sign of it... WTKK could conceivably pick up Rush but I think they'd have to carry him live. This might mean moving E&B elsewhere and possibly getting rid of O'Reilly (tape delayed, 7 pm) or (hopefully not) Ingraham (tape delayed, 9 pm) in some kind of shuffle. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Sep 6 16:38:21 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:38:21 -0400 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc References: <20070906150153.84F8983BE6@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> <4fc429770709061303g76744e22g676718293940aa33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001001c7f0c5$e409f5b0$eead4c0c@SatU205S5044> WKOX will NEVER have an "at least equivalent" signal to WRKO. WKOX's 50-kW signal will be roughly equivalent to WWZN's. Except in unusual cases (such as where a salt-water path completely changes the story), 50 kW on 1200 is not 50 kW on 680 (or 850). Also, WWZN uses almost 200-degree towers, whereas WKOX's new towers in Newton won't even be 90 degrees. Thus. WKOX will, in effect, be transmitting with about half the power that WWZN uses. That 2:1 equivalent-power advantage to WWZN will approximately compenstate for WWZN's frequency being ~25% higher than WKOX's. From a coverage standpoint, the 50-kW full-time AMs in this market fall into three groups: 1) WBZ, 2) WRKO and WEEI, 3) WWZN and WKOX. In fact, because of its low frequency and good transmitter location, WEZE, a 5-kW station, really belongs ahead of WWZN and WKOX. Also, because of its lower frequency and superior transmitter location, WRKO has better coverage than WEEI--almost everywhere. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "David Tomm" Cc: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: Re: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc > Buddy has been silent for almost 5 years. A lot has happened in RI > starting with the fire. It should be good radio. Meanwhile Citadel > has > problems with WSKO which EEI just blew away. > > On 9/6/07, David Tomm wrote: >> September 20th is the first day of the fall book, which is why >> those >> midweek dates are there. >> >> My question is, did Clear Channel choose not to renew Rush on WPRO >> or >> was it Citadel? WHJJ has had it's problems over the last few >> years, >> and a mostly local lineup of talkers hasn't worked for them. Then >> they >> lost Imus. Outside of Helen Glover, who is a marginal host at best >> but >> has somewhat of a following in the market, what else did that >> station >> have? CC/Providence has been competing against Rush for years, >> despite >> being distributed by co-owned Premiere. They may have just decided >> to >> finally bring Rush in-house to stabilize the station. >> >> Or, it could be possible that WPRO dropped him. The bulk of his >> audience is rapidly entering 55+ land and Citadel may have decided >> to >> go with local hosts that appeal to younger demos. WPRO is also the >> news and information station for the market, and they may have >> wanted a >> more local lineup to help reinforce that image. WBAL in Baltimore >> dropped Rush last year for the same reasons. >> >> Looking at the Boston situation, I doubt that CC will move it's >> syndicated talkers to WKOX until the signal upgrade to 50,000 watts >> is >> complete. If 1200 doesn't have at least a comparable signal to >> WRKO >> during Rush's time slot, they won't risk putting him on a weaker >> stick, >> even if it is a CC property. If anything, I could see Premiere not >> renewing with WRKO and trying to get the show cleared on WTKK. Why >> would they want to keep Rush on that sinking ship? A lineup of >> Howie, >> Egan & Braude, Rush, Severin, and Graham Crackers at night would >> put >> WRKO out of it's misery once and for all. Caliente 680, anyone? >> >> -Dave Tomm >> "Mike Thomas" >> >> On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: >> >> > A talk radio shuffle in Providence on Sept. 20 will have Rush >> > Limbaugh >> > moving from WPRO to WHJJ >> > and Buddy Cianci back on the airwaves. Citadel's WPRO will have >> > DePetro moving to 6 to 10 >> > am, followed by Cianci & Ron St. Pierre middays, then an expanded >> > Dan >> > Yorke. All local-- >> > as opposed to Clear Channel's WHJJ which will have Pittsburgh's >> > Quinn >> > and Rose in am >> > drive followed by Beck, Limbaugh, and I guess Sean Hannity. >> > >> > (As far as I know, Helen Glover is gone from WHJJ unless they put >> > her >> > in 3-6 pm and >> > move Hannity to tape-delayed, or move her to another slot). So >> > WHJJ >> > would have the >> > powerful Rush (from Clear Channel's syndication arm, Premiere) >> > added >> > but there >> > will apparently be no local hosts anywhere from 6 am to 6 pm, at >> > least. >> > >> > It had been rumored Clear Channel would set up talk on its WKOX >> > in >> > Framingham and they could have put >> > the likes of Beck and Rush there, but it hasn't happened. But >> > Rush has >> > indeed been placed >> > on a Clear Channel property in Providence, though. >> > >> > By the way the change takes place on a Thu (two weeks from >> > today). I'm >> > guessing >> > Rush's contract with WPRO expires after Sept. 19 (the same day >> > Howie's >> > contract with WRKO is to expire) so he'd be moved to WHJJ the >> > next >> > day. It's >> > kind of weird to have a new show/new lineup premiere in the >> > middle of >> > the >> > week rather than "starting fresh on a Monday" but I guess if a >> > contract >> > expires in the middle of the week, the change will also happen at >> > that >> > time. >> > Similarly, Washington Post radio will give way to WWWT in D.C. on >> > Sept. 20, >> > a Thursday. >> > >> >> From paul@derrynh.net Thu Sep 6 16:51:08 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:51:08 -0400 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc In-Reply-To: <001001c7f0c5$e409f5b0$eead4c0c@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <000f01c7f0c7$a7bb0c00$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> OK, so if all the bad things happen to 680 in the talk realm that are theorized, wouldn't it make sense for ESPN on 850 & WEEI programming (if not calls) on 680 to be the future of the 2 AMs? -Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:38 PM To: Kevin Vahey; David Tomm Cc: BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Re: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc WKOX will NEVER have an "at least equivalent" signal to WRKO. WKOX's 50-kW signal will be roughly equivalent to WWZN's. Except in unusual cases (such as where a salt-water path completely changes the story), 50 kW on 1200 is not 50 kW on 680 (or 850). Also, WWZN uses almost 200-degree towers, whereas WKOX's new towers in Newton won't even be 90 degrees. Thus. WKOX will, in effect, be transmitting with about half the power that WWZN uses. That 2:1 equivalent-power advantage to WWZN will approximately compenstate for WWZN's frequency being ~25% higher than WKOX's. From a coverage standpoint, the 50-kW full-time AMs in this market fall into three groups: 1) WBZ, 2) WRKO and WEEI, 3) WWZN and WKOX. In fact, because of its low frequency and good transmitter location, WEZE, a 5-kW station, really belongs ahead of WWZN and WKOX. Also, because of its lower frequency and superior transmitter location, WRKO has better coverage than WEEI--almost everywhere. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "David Tomm" Cc: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: Re: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc > Buddy has been silent for almost 5 years. A lot has happened in RI > starting with the fire. It should be good radio. Meanwhile Citadel > has > problems with WSKO which EEI just blew away. > > On 9/6/07, David Tomm wrote: >> September 20th is the first day of the fall book, which is why >> those >> midweek dates are there. >> >> My question is, did Clear Channel choose not to renew Rush on WPRO >> or >> was it Citadel? WHJJ has had it's problems over the last few >> years, >> and a mostly local lineup of talkers hasn't worked for them. Then >> they >> lost Imus. Outside of Helen Glover, who is a marginal host at best >> but >> has somewhat of a following in the market, what else did that >> station >> have? CC/Providence has been competing against Rush for years, >> despite >> being distributed by co-owned Premiere. They may have just decided >> to >> finally bring Rush in-house to stabilize the station. >> >> Or, it could be possible that WPRO dropped him. The bulk of his >> audience is rapidly entering 55+ land and Citadel may have decided >> to >> go with local hosts that appeal to younger demos. WPRO is also the >> news and information station for the market, and they may have >> wanted a >> more local lineup to help reinforce that image. WBAL in Baltimore >> dropped Rush last year for the same reasons. >> >> Looking at the Boston situation, I doubt that CC will move it's >> syndicated talkers to WKOX until the signal upgrade to 50,000 watts >> is >> complete. If 1200 doesn't have at least a comparable signal to >> WRKO >> during Rush's time slot, they won't risk putting him on a weaker >> stick, >> even if it is a CC property. If anything, I could see Premiere not >> renewing with WRKO and trying to get the show cleared on WTKK. Why >> would they want to keep Rush on that sinking ship? A lineup of >> Howie, >> Egan & Braude, Rush, Severin, and Graham Crackers at night would >> put >> WRKO out of it's misery once and for all. Caliente 680, anyone? >> >> -Dave Tomm >> "Mike Thomas" >> >> On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: >> >> > A talk radio shuffle in Providence on Sept. 20 will have Rush >> > Limbaugh >> > moving from WPRO to WHJJ >> > and Buddy Cianci back on the airwaves. Citadel's WPRO will have >> > DePetro moving to 6 to 10 >> > am, followed by Cianci & Ron St. Pierre middays, then an expanded >> > Dan >> > Yorke. All local-- >> > as opposed to Clear Channel's WHJJ which will have Pittsburgh's >> > Quinn >> > and Rose in am >> > drive followed by Beck, Limbaugh, and I guess Sean Hannity. >> > >> > (As far as I know, Helen Glover is gone from WHJJ unless they put >> > her >> > in 3-6 pm and >> > move Hannity to tape-delayed, or move her to another slot). So >> > WHJJ >> > would have the >> > powerful Rush (from Clear Channel's syndication arm, Premiere) >> > added >> > but there >> > will apparently be no local hosts anywhere from 6 am to 6 pm, at >> > least. >> > >> > It had been rumored Clear Channel would set up talk on its WKOX >> > in >> > Framingham and they could have put >> > the likes of Beck and Rush there, but it hasn't happened. But >> > Rush has >> > indeed been placed >> > on a Clear Channel property in Providence, though. >> > >> > By the way the change takes place on a Thu (two weeks from >> > today). I'm >> > guessing >> > Rush's contract with WPRO expires after Sept. 19 (the same day >> > Howie's >> > contract with WRKO is to expire) so he'd be moved to WHJJ the >> > next >> > day. It's >> > kind of weird to have a new show/new lineup premiere in the >> > middle of >> > the >> > week rather than "starting fresh on a Monday" but I guess if a >> > contract >> > expires in the middle of the week, the change will also happen at >> > that >> > time. >> > Similarly, Washington Post radio will give way to WWWT in D.C. on >> > Sept. 20, >> > a Thursday. >> > >> >> From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Sep 6 18:13:35 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:13:35 -0400 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc References: <20070906205845.E013016427D@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <003f01c7f0d3$312ff260$eead4c0c@SatU205S5044> Yes. I suspect this happened with the old WHDH when it moved to Needham in 1947 or '48. WHDH's amtenna system uses unequal-height towers. Going from west to east, the towers are 640', 600', and 560'. The objective--or so I'm told--was to minimize fading from phasing between the skywave and groundwave in the primary service area (that is, close to Boston) at night and during what are now known as critical hours. Apparently, that part of the design was a failure. However, the average height of the towers is 186.7 degrees, which is slightly more than half a wavelength and should produce an RMS inverse-distance field at 1 km of ~400 mV/m/kW or about 250 mV/m/kW at 1 mile. (The FCC didn't change AM to the metric system until sometime in the '80s, I believe.) The consulting engineers, apparently feeling that it would make the client happier if the proofs of performance showed better performance than had been predicted, perposely low-balled the predicted coverage. They did this by using the minimum efficiency for Class I AMs of 225 mV/m/kW at 1 mile. Remember that WHDH was a Class II station--not a Class I--so an efficiency of 175 mV/m/kW at 1 mile would have been acceptable to the FCC but would have been a huge disappointment to WHDH, given the tall towers. I'm sure that the coverage exceeded the consultants' predictions, and so the Choate family was probably pleased. However, the Hildreth family, owners of WLAW, which moved to Andover to Burlington and increased from 5 kW to 50 kW at just about the same time as WHDH moved from Saugus to Needham and increased from 5 kW to 50 kW. were probably even more pleased. Their consulting engineers had predicted 175 mV/m/kW at 1 mile, whereas, with the tower height WLAW used, the number should have been just about 200. I suspect that WLAW more than met 200, but what was even more interesting was the impressive coverage of Cape Cod, resulting from the salt water path that exists once the signal gets through downtown Boston. And it appears to me that the constraints on the 680 design were more severe than those on 850. The station was to be licensed to Lawrence, whereas the Hildreth's real objective was to serve Boston. That virtually dictated a site midway between the two. The site worked out to be close to Hanscom Field, which doubtless limited the tower height. I'm guessing that the fact that the site turned out to be so nearly perfect was a pleasant surprise to a lot of folks. As for WHDH, the power increase, coupled with the move to Needham must have accomplished the Choates' objective of bringing a better signal to areas west of Boston, but if the Choates expected that their 10x power increase would produce anything like ten times the former coverage, they had to be bitterly disappointed. First off, even with a salt-water path, the finite conductivity keeps the area covered from increasing in direct proportion to the power. However, WHDH left what was probably the second-best AM site in New England (WBZ's Hull site being the best) for a rather average site. On paper, WHDH's Saugus site must have caused a lot of head scratching. The station was directional to the east at night, yet its transmitter was east of the market's major population center. In those days, though, co-channel interference was minimal at night and non-existent by day, so the 5-kW night signal probably did OK as far west as Lexington, which must have been right in the null that protected KOA. And the day signal (which lives on as WROL) was a killer for 5 kW in a region of such poor soil conductivity. The reason, of course, is that the signal reached so much of the market via a salt-water path. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; "Kevin Vahey" ; "David Tomm" Cc: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:58 PM Subject: Re: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan.Strassberg" >To: "Kevin Vahey" , "David Tomm" >Subject: Re: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc >Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:38:21 -0400 >WKOX will NEVER have an "at least equivalent" signal to WRKO. WKOX's >50-kW signal will be roughly equivalent to WWZN's. Except in unusual >cases (such as where a salt-water path completely changes the story), >50 kW on 1200 is not 50 kW on 680 (or 850). Also, WWZN uses almost >200-degree towers, whereas WKOX's new towers in Newton won't even be >90 degrees. Thus. WKOX will, in effect, be transmitting with about >half the power that WWZN uses. That 2:1 equivalent-power advantage to >WWZN will approximately compenstate for WWZN's frequency being ~25% >higher than WKOX's. From a coverage standpoint, the 50-kW full-time >AMs in this market fall into three groups: 1) WBZ, 2) WRKO and WEEI, >3) WWZN and WKOX. In fact, because of its low frequency and good >transmitter location, WEZE, a 5-kW station, really belongs ahead of >WWZN and WKOX. Also, because of its lower frequency and superior >transmitter location, WRKO has better coverage than WEEI--almost >everywhere. In your experience, has there ever been a time when, after a CP was built, the resultant signal turned out BETTER than what one would conclude based on some of the factors listed above: less-than-quarter-wave towers; less- than-ideal-soil-conductivity, etc? -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Sep 6 19:12:28 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:12:28 -0400 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc In-Reply-To: <20070906150153.84F8983BE6@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070906150153.84F8983BE6@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20070906231241.2277E1B40A2@relay4.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> >Bob said-- > >It had been rumored Clear Channel would set up talk on its WKOX in >Framingham and they could have put >the likes of Beck and Rush there, but it hasn't happened. But Rush >has indeed been placed >on a Clear Channel property in Providence, though. I am still mystified by why nobody picks up Ed Schultz-- the guy has proved he can make money and get ratings... From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Sep 6 19:18:19 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:18:19 -0400 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc In-Reply-To: <003f01c7f0d3$312ff260$eead4c0c@SatU205S5044> References: <20070906205845.E013016427D@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> <003f01c7f0d3$312ff260$eead4c0c@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4fc429770709061618n6a03f315pcf3387c8a5cda8e9@mail.gmail.com> I was told by the late Al Walker that WHDH had to improve the night signal when the Sox started to play home night games or lose the contract with the team. From markwats@comcast.net Thu Sep 6 20:39:05 2007 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:39:05 -0400 Subject: Paul Sullivan's Family Issues Statement On His Health Message-ID: <004001c7f0e7$81bac0c0$738d764c@Mark> The Lowell Sun has a statement from the family of Paul Sullivan on it's website. The statement was released today via WBZ Radio. The family expresses it's appreciation for all the cards and calls Paul received during the past few months, and the medical team that has been treating Paul for almost 3 years. The statement goes on to say that treatments for Paul's cancer have ended and now the focus is on his comfort and quality of life and is receiving hospice care. The statement can be read by clicking the following link: http://www.lowellsun.com/breakingnews/ci_6818598 My thoughts and prayers go out to Paul and his family. Mark Watson From markwats@comcast.net Thu Sep 6 20:46:34 2007 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:46:34 -0400 Subject: Joe Morgan No Longer In The "BZ Copter" Message-ID: <004101c7f0e8$8ad96390$738d764c@Mark> This afternoon while tuned in to WBZ Radio, during one of the "Subaru of New England All Wheel Drive Traffic on the 3's" reports, I heard the studio traffic reporter (Scott Eck, IIRC) toss it to Joe Morgan in the "Commerce Insurance" copter. And yes, a few minutes later, after the :40 "Weather on the 10's", there came a spot for Commerce Insurance, about how they have a program to teach young drivers safe driving skills. Mark Watson From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Sep 6 21:38:18 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:38:18 -0400 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc References: <20070906205845.E013016427D@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> <003f01c7f0d3$312ff260$eead4c0c@SatU205S5044> <4fc429770709061618n6a03f315pcf3387c8a5cda8e9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001201c7f0f0$3f4767d0$1da64c0c@SatU205S5044> I have no idea what year you are talking about, but the problem was not likely the signal but the interference from CKVD (I think those were the calls--outside Montreal) and WYLF in Penn Yan NY. Both of those stations were not operating in accordance with their licenses. Unhapplily, it is very difficult to get such situations under control. the Canadians have always shown indifference toward illegal operation of their AMs. and the Penn Yan station has been a notorious cheater. Nevertheless, even after it paid a hefty fine after years of obviously repeated and willful volations, it was recently reported to be cheating anew. If those allegations are correct, rhe station should lose its license and the owner should be barred from ever owning another station. I think the FCC at least nominally has the authority to revoke broadcast licenses for flagrant technical violations but, as far as I know, owners who have operated their stations irresponsibly are not officially barred from future ownership. The Media Bureau may make it so difficult for such individuals to acquire stations that most of them may give up on the idea, but I've not heard of official prohibitions. Operators of unlicensed broadcast stations are supposed to be barred from future ownership but the same punishment does not seem to be meted out to those who operate licensed stations irresponsibly. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: "Laurence Glavin" ; Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc >I was told by the late Al Walker that WHDH had to improve the night > signal when the Sox started to play home night games or lose the > contract with the team. From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Thu Sep 6 22:12:16 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Paul Sullivan's Family Issues Statement On His Health In-Reply-To: <004001c7f0e7$81bac0c0$738d764c@Mark> Message-ID: <493128.60733.qm@web58302.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mark Watson wrote: > The Lowell Sun has a statement from the family of Paul Sullivan on > it's > website. The statement was released today via WBZ Radio. The family > expresses it's appreciation for all the cards and calls Paul received > during > the past few months, and the medical team that has been treating Paul > for > almost 3 years. The statement goes on to say that treatments for > Paul's > cancer have ended and now the focus is on his comfort and quality of > life > and is receiving hospice care. > > The statement can be read by clicking the following link: > > http://www.lowellsun.com/breakingnews/ci_6818598 > > My thoughts and prayers go out to Paul and his family. Paul is a rare breed that will not be replaced. I wish him the best as he faces this stage of his fight. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Sep 7 03:30:08 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 02:30:08 -0500 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc Message-ID: <20070907073008.229A083985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> >>OK, so if all the bad things happen to 680 in the talk realm that are theorized, wouldn't it make sense for ESPN on 850 & WEEI programming (if not calls) on 680 to be the future of the 2 AMs? I could picture this: WEEI calls/programming incl. Red Sox on 680. WRKO calls and Celtics basketball on 850. During the day 850 could throw on some regular talk but switch to sports at night (Planet Mikey when Sox are on?--or perhaps ESPN or Fox Sports Radio.) Tonight the Red Sox were on 680 while 850 picked up NFL Football (Colts-Saints)...sign of things to come? Under such a scenario 850 could also be the place for Revs soccer, BC football, etc. >>In fact, because of its low frequency and good transmitter location, WEZE, a 5-kW station, really belongs ahead of WWZN and WKOX. Also, because of its lower frequency and superior transmitter location, WRKO has better coverage than WEEI--almost everywhere. We remember when news and later the sports talk of WEEI was on 590 with a half decent signal though the move to 850 was touted as an improvement. So WEZE 590 (5 kW directional)isn't as good a signal as 680 but would rank ahead of 1510 and 1200, indeed. (If Salem ever were to sell 590 to Entercom maybe they could find a news/sports format to air there...) From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Sep 7 03:38:16 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 02:38:16 -0500 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc Message-ID: <20070907073816.2E3A883985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> >>I am still mystified by why nobody picks up Ed Schultz-- the guy has proved he can make money and get ratings... WRKO seems pretty committed to Savage and then Jerry Doyle at night but after Sox season ends maybe they could air Schultz at 10 pm in place of Doyle; who knows. Today Sean Hannity was making fun of Schultz--and saying Schultz makes fun of him on HIS show all the time. He brought up a recent incident in a bar where a GOP donor somehow thought that Schultz was still a Republican, as he apparently was a bit more conservative in his earlier radio career, and a big fight ensued. It was apparently mentioned in a Fargo, N.D. newspaper. From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Sep 7 04:11:03 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:11:03 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz (was: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc) In-Reply-To: <20070907073816.2E3A883985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070907073816.2E3A883985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20070907081115.D2F151B4043@relay5.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> >Bob wrote-- >Today Sean Hannity was making fun of Schultz--and saying Schultz >makes fun of him on HIS show all the time. He brought up a recent >incident in a bar where a GOP donor somehow thought that >Schultz was still a Republican, as he apparently was a bit >more conservative in his earlier radio career, and a big >fight ensued. It was apparently mentioned in a Fargo, N.D. >newspaper. Too bad the newspaper didn't bother to be accurate, and had to pull half of what was on its website. According to various witnesses, the rightie had been drinking heavily and called Ed some rude names and also threatened Ed; the guy then called Ed's wife even worse names. Ed used to be a heavy drinker, but since he re-married, he basically will have a couple of beers, and he didn't want to fight with the guy. But the guy persisted, and he got up in Ed's face, so Ed pushed him away; then bouncers got involved, the rightie was asked to leave, the end. Today's version of the story was a bit more accurate but that was only after people who had been at the club in question called the newspaper and objected to their breathless tabloid-style "Ed Schultz in a bar fight" headlines. The newspaper, the Fargo (ND) Forum, is owned by a major donor to the Republican party and never says a kind word about Ed even though he has HUGE ratings in Fargo (he's the only progressive on an all rightie station, but he still gets big numbers). I understand that not everyone likes Ed, but since nobody at the newspaper was at the club and got the story only from the rightie, the paper seemed all too eager to run something that made Ed look bad. Today, the paper did seem to back down from its earlier coverage. That said, Hannity and Schultz have been going at each other on the air the same way Keith Olbermann goes after Bill-o and vice versa. Hannity has said that Ed has no advertisers and Democratic congressmen keep him on the air by buying time on his show-- which by the way is totally false; Ed's show is sold out with (gasp) real, honest to goodness advertisers, some local and some national. When Ed first went on the air, two congressmen lent him money so he could keep the show afloat, but that was in 2004. Ed has offered to debate Sean, but Sean keeps refusing. So they snipe at each other on the air, the way talk show hosts often do. But in this case, by all accounts, there was no "bar fight" and Ed did nothing wrong. Those of you who are involved with sports radio, you know that some people will come up to a ballplayer in a club or at a bar and start telling them how they sucked last night or they're a crappy player etc. The impression I get is that this incident with Ed started off with the rightie saying he disliked Ed's show and it just escalated into not liking Ed's political views and then on into insults and curses and threats. Ed was annoyed about it because he said he was just trying to have a nice evening out with his wife... Ed still is conservative about certain issues, by the way-- he is very much pro-life, but doesn't believe the government should impose religious doctrines on anyone else, so he just doesn't discuss it on his show. From dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Fri Sep 7 08:04:55 2007 From: dmoisan@davidmoisan.org (David Moisan) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:04:55 -0400 Subject: Washington Post Radio (was Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc) In-Reply-To: <20070906150153.84F8983BE6@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070906150153.84F8983BE6@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: >Similarly, Washington Post radio will give way to WWWT in D.C. on Sept. 20, >a Thursday. Al's Morning Meeting posted on Washington Post radio yesterday: http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=2&aid=129410 From rac@gabrielmass.com Fri Sep 7 08:11:31 2007 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:11:31 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <20070907081115.D2F151B4043@relay5.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> References: <20070907073816.2E3A883985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20070907081115.D2F151B4043@relay5.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <46E13FF3.5050706@gabrielmass.com> Donna Halper wrote: > Ed still is conservative about certain issues, by the way-- he is very > much pro-life, but doesn't believe the government should impose > religious doctrines on anyone else, so he just doesn't discuss it on his > show. So he thinks that abortion, euthanasia, etc., are bad things to do, but he doesn't try to persuade people to abstain from them voluntarily? There's a man who knows his audience. --RC From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Sep 7 09:44:54 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:44:54 -0500 Subject: Ed Schultz (was: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc) Message-ID: <20070907134454.C9C5483C0C@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> >>The newspaper, the Fargo (ND) Forum, is owned by a major donor to the Republican party and never says a kind word about Ed even though he has HUGE ratings in Fargo ah, another public figure/newspaper feud (much like Teresa Kerry's incident with a reporter from a Pittsburgh-area paper who was not so fond of her over the years, IIRC, etc.) >>That said, Hannity and Schultz have been going at each other on the air the same way Keith Olbermann goes after Bill-o and vice versa. I hadn't heard Hannity all that much because he's on opposite Howie but with Howie on vacation, I was checking out his show a bit, so I hadn't known that. I do know of several feuds like this-- Sean poked fun at Michael Savage when a caller brought up something and Hannity replied, "Oh, was this something you heard on the Michael Weiner show?" (For the record, that is Savage's given last name...) and Savage also name-calls other talk hosts (O'Reilly = "The Leprechaun"; Rush = "The Golfer" after Limbaugh's frequency in taking time off to play golf, etc.) >> Ed has offered to debate Sean, but Sean keeps refusing. That's what Sean was saying; he said that when certain conditions were met, he'd have him on (I forget what the conditions were) >>Ed still is conservative about certain issues, by the way-- he is very much pro-life, but doesn't believe the government should impose religious doctrines on anyone else, so he just doesn't discuss it on his show. Well maybe a station around here would put him on (I didn't really check out his show before other than a minute or so, and he was actually talking a bit of sports not politics) so people would know this. From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Sep 7 09:33:25 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:33:25 -0500 Subject: Ed Schultz Message-ID: <20070907133325.49CC349B72E@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Newsbusters (Right-leaning; caveat lector to the liberals) says there are different versions of the story (kinda like that All in the Family episode where Archie and Mike each had their own spin on what happened when the fridge broke down--oh, and Edith had what was probably more accurate in her own version, but I digress)...Ed Schultz, former Republican and now Jones radio libtalk host and an altercation in a bar: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2007/09/07/liberal-talk-radio-host-ed-schultz-has-rashomon-bar-feud Hannity mentioned on his show yesterday that "Schulz is financed by the Dem. party". Of course some have also argued that conservative shows are similarly backed by Republicans..judge for thyself. Apparently Schultz claimed the man called his wife a very nasty epithet; the man claims Schultz gave his phone number out over the air and he's been bombarded with calls, etc. From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Sep 7 10:25:36 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:25:36 -0500 Subject: Rush to WHJJ on the 17th, actually Message-ID: <20070907142536.D9DC083BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> The WHJJ site says that Rush starts on AM 920 on Monday the 17th, actually (and supposedly Helen Glover of 'HJJ said the same) rather than the 20th. WPRO's site says their new lineup will start on the 20th, though (not sure what they'll put on 12-3 pm on the days in between). DePetro's morning show will apparently be "Morning News" from 6-8 am and then "open lines" for the remainder of the show. From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 7 10:33:08 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:33:08 -0400 Subject: D&C down to the final day Message-ID: <4fc429770709070733s3db15dcn2ece003f020f6d2d@mail.gmail.com> The D&C rumors continue to swirl but as of 10 AM they are no longer employed by WEEI as the contract has expired. David Scott looks at the picture and raises questions about Callahan's health being the sticking point. Also he suggests that the Globe and WEEI will end their war and allow Globe staffers back on WEEI. http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/archives/shots/weei_fantasy_draft.php Meanwhile the future of 890 is unknown. While many here suggest that Entercom park ESPN on 850 and then move WEEI to either 680 or FM I still think it is more likely for Salem to make a play for either 680 or 850 and then sell 590 to Disney. There is a history there when WEZE moved to 590 and Disney bought 1260. From me@billoneill.us Fri Sep 7 11:13:58 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:13:58 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <20070907133325.49CC349B72E@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070907133325.49CC349B72E@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <46E16AB6.4000407@billoneill.us> Bob Nelson wrote: > --oh, and Edith had what was probably > more accurate in her own version, but I digress)... News Reporter: Mrs. Bunker, do you you agree with 'capital punishment'? Edit Bunker: So long as it ain't so severe. Bill O'Neill From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Sep 7 12:42:33 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:42:33 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <20070907133325.49CC349B72E@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070907133325.49CC349B72E@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20070907164310.DD3721B420A@relay6.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> >Bob wrote-- > >Hannity mentioned on his show yesterday that "Schulz is financed by >the Dem. party". Of course >some have also argued that conservative shows are similarly backed >by Republicans..judge for thyself. >Apparently Schultz claimed the man called his wife a very nasty >epithet; the man claims Schultz >gave his phone number out over the air and he's been bombarded with >calls, etc. First, a disclaimer-- I do have a dog in this fight, since I am good friends with several of the folks we are discussing (Ed, Wendy, Holmey). But I also try to be honest. Ed is not a shy guy, and if people hassle him, he will push back. Guys in bars do tend to get into these kinds of rants, but no joke, I've socialised with Ed and Wendy and she is absolutely 100% a social drinker who doesn't get into altercations with people, and since she and Ed got together, Ed has gotten into being healthy, sober, maintaining a positive public image (he used to be a football coach and was known in the market for never backing down from a fight), etc. I am not saying the incident didn't occur-- I am saying the rightie undoubtedly said the things that he is supposed to have said, including the vile language he used to Ed's wife. There is no need for that. There are some people who just don't wanna let a public figure have dinner and a beer in peace. Terry Francona can tell you about that! So can just about every athlete. That said, I have seen some of the financials for the Ed Schultz Show and one more time, Sean your information is OLD. Ed was indeed backed by several Democratic politicians in 2004. Since early 2006, his show has been turning a profit. Really. He doesn't need backers. He has sponsors. Ed is understandably angry about being accused of being a tool of the Democrats, since he has worked very hard to get his show syndicated nationally. He has rubbed some people the wrong way in the process and he will tell you himself sometimes he doesn't think before he speaks. But Mike Harrison, editor of the very right-leaning Talkers Magazine, gave Ed an award as one of the top 5 most influential talk show hosts this past year, and even Mike acknowledged that the show has succeeded ON ITS OWN. Ed has offered to debate Sean at least 5 times, and as for the "conditions", nothing that any talk show host wouldn't ask. Ed likes publicity as much as Sean does, and all he has asked, as far as I know, is that he not be ganged up on-- the one time he went on Fox, they cut his mike every time he disagreed with the host. They don't do that when he is on Larry King or MSNBC's Tucker (a rightie with whom he is actually friendly). From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Sep 7 12:46:06 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:46:06 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <46E13FF3.5050706@gabrielmass.com> References: <20070907073816.2E3A883985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20070907081115.D2F151B4043@relay5.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> <46E13FF3.5050706@gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <20070907164619.E0F3A1B411E@relay6.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> At 08:11 AM 9/7/2007, Richard Chonak wrote: >Donna Halper wrote: > >>Ed still is conservative about certain issues, by the way-- he is >>very much pro-life, but doesn't believe the government should >>impose religious doctrines on anyone else, so he just doesn't >>discuss it on his show. > >So he thinks that abortion, euthanasia, etc., are bad things to do, >but he doesn't try to persuade people to abstain from them >voluntarily? There's a man who knows his audience. Umm, when his audience calls to talk about those things, Ed talks about them. But no, he doesn't feel he is supposed to be a preacher. He's a talk show host. He gives his opinions on a lot of social issues. So do all the rightie talkers. And your point is....?????? From lglavin@mail.com Thu Sep 6 16:58:45 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:58:45 -0500 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc Message-ID: <20070906205845.E013016427D@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan.Strassberg" >To: "Kevin Vahey" , "David Tomm" >Subject: Re: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc >Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:38:21 -0400 >WKOX will NEVER have an "at least equivalent" signal to WRKO. WKOX's >50-kW signal will be roughly equivalent to WWZN's. Except in unusual >cases (such as where a salt-water path completely changes the story), >50 kW on 1200 is not 50 kW on 680 (or 850). Also, WWZN uses almost >200-degree towers, whereas WKOX's new towers in Newton won't even be >90 degrees. Thus. WKOX will, in effect, be transmitting with about >half the power that WWZN uses. That 2:1 equivalent-power advantage to >WWZN will approximately compenstate for WWZN's frequency being ~25% >higher than WKOX's. From a coverage standpoint, the 50-kW full-time >AMs in this market fall into three groups: 1) WBZ, 2) WRKO and WEEI, >3) WWZN and WKOX. In fact, because of its low frequency and good >transmitter location, WEZE, a 5-kW station, really belongs ahead of >WWZN and WKOX. Also, because of its lower frequency and superior >transmitter location, WRKO has better coverage than WEEI--almost >everywhere. In your experience, has there ever been a time when, after a CP was built, the resultant signal turned out BETTER than what one would conclude based on some of the factors listed above: less-than-quarter-wave towers; less- than-ideal-soil-conductivity, etc? -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From paul@derrynh.net Fri Sep 7 13:56:10 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:56:10 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <20070907164619.E0F3A1B411E@relay6.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <004201c7f178$60585640$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> Please do not say "Righties" unless using "Lefties" to describe Mr. Shultz and his counterparts. Your slant is tipping over my computer. -Paul Hopfgarten -Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:46 PM To: Richard Chonak; BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Re: Ed Schultz At 08:11 AM 9/7/2007, Richard Chonak wrote: >Donna Halper wrote: > >>Ed still is conservative about certain issues, by the way-- he is >>very much pro-life, but doesn't believe the government should >>impose religious doctrines on anyone else, so he just doesn't >>discuss it on his show. > >So he thinks that abortion, euthanasia, etc., are bad things to do, >but he doesn't try to persuade people to abstain from them >voluntarily? There's a man who knows his audience. Umm, when his audience calls to talk about those things, Ed talks about them. But no, he doesn't feel he is supposed to be a preacher. He's a talk show host. He gives his opinions on a lot of social issues. So do all the rightie talkers. And your point is....?????? From nostaticatall@charter.net Fri Sep 7 13:55:40 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:55:40 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <20070907164619.E0F3A1B411E@relay6.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> References: <20070907073816.2E3A883985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20070907081115.D2F151B4043@relay5.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> <46E13FF3.5050706@gabrielmass.com> <20070907164619.E0F3A1B411E@relay6.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <6c209a9170042ee7cac03699c44120ac@charter.net> For the most part in progressive talk, there's not a lot of time spent on social issues. At least, not nearly as much time as conservative talk spends on them. Sure, there is some discussion about gay marriage and restrictions on abortion rights from time to time, but that's about it. Progressives don't waste their time with Wars on Christmas or "Family Values" agendas. They don't have to pander to the religious right, who feel these issues are of the upmost importance. There are plenty of more topical things to talk about that interest the left-leaning listener--the war, various Republican political scandals, the upcoming Presidential race, etc. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Sep 7, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > At 08:11 AM 9/7/2007, Richard Chonak wrote: >> Donna Halper wrote: >> >>> Ed still is conservative about certain issues, by the way-- he is >>> very much pro-life, but doesn't believe the government should impose >>> religious doctrines on anyone else, so he just doesn't discuss it on >>> his show. >> >> So he thinks that abortion, euthanasia, etc., are bad things to do, >> but he doesn't try to persuade people to abstain from them >> voluntarily? There's a man who knows his audience. > > Umm, when his audience calls to talk about those things, Ed talks > about them. But no, he doesn't feel he is supposed to be a preacher. > He's a talk show host. He gives his opinions on a lot of social > issues. So do all the rightie talkers. And your point is....?????? From nostaticatall@charter.net Fri Sep 7 14:03:38 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:03:38 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <004201c7f178$60585640$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> References: <004201c7f178$60585640$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: Schultz uses the term "lefties" on his show all the time to refer to the most liberal wings of the Democratic party. He uses "lefties" about as much if not more than the term "righties." Besides, isn't this list supposed to be about discussing points of view about radio, particularly in the Boston area? Donna didn't take a cheap shot at anyone. I think she is perfectly within her right to use that term if she so chooses. Lighten up. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Sep 7, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > Please do not say "Righties" unless using "Lefties" to describe Mr. > Shultz > and his counterparts. Your slant is tipping over my computer. > > -Paul Hopfgarten > -Derry NH > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On > Behalf Of > Donna Halper > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:46 PM > To: Richard Chonak; BostonRadio Mailing List > Subject: Re: Ed Schultz > > At 08:11 AM 9/7/2007, Richard Chonak wrote: >> Donna Halper wrote: >> >>> Ed still is conservative about certain issues, by the way-- he is >>> very much pro-life, but doesn't believe the government should >>> impose religious doctrines on anyone else, so he just doesn't >>> discuss it on his show. >> >> So he thinks that abortion, euthanasia, etc., are bad things to do, >> but he doesn't try to persuade people to abstain from them >> voluntarily? There's a man who knows his audience. > > Umm, when his audience calls to talk about those things, Ed talks > about them. But no, he doesn't feel he is supposed to be a > preacher. He's a talk show host. He gives his opinions on a lot of > social issues. So do all the rightie talkers. And your point > is....?????? > From me@billoneill.us Fri Sep 7 14:12:51 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:12:51 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <6c209a9170042ee7cac03699c44120ac@charter.net> References: <20070907073816.2E3A883985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20070907081115.D2F151B4043@relay5.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> <46E13FF3.5050706@gabrielmass.com> <20070907164619.E0F3A1B411E@relay6.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> <6c209a9170042ee7cac03699c44120ac@charter.net> Message-ID: <46E194A3.4010801@billoneill.us> David Tomm wrote: > For the most part in progressive talk, there's not a lot of time spent > on social issues. There are plenty of more topical things to > talk about that interest the left-leaning listener--the war, various > Republican political scandals, the upcoming Presidential race, etc. Listeners to progressive/liberal talk who engage the war topic do see war as an issue. The polarization out there puts liberals squarely "against" the war and conservatives "in favor of" the war. So, too, are political scandals patterned in the format with one minor tweak - conservatives don't scandal very well. Awkward. They definitely need help getting those scandals to go nova quickly. Just ask the toe-tapper with the wide stance. Bill O'Neill From map@mapinternet.com Fri Sep 7 15:25:43 2007 From: map@mapinternet.com (Mark Casey) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:25:43 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz References: <20070907073816.2E3A883985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <00d001c7f184$e28a25b0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> >>I am still mystified by why nobody picks up Ed Schultz-- the guy has proved he can make money and get ratings... I'm also surprised he's not on, at least according to his website, anywhere in Eastern New England. Seems like he could make some numbers and dollars for a few of the smaller signal stations, especially in the more liberal areas of New England. Schultz is on out here in WMass on 1240/1400/1600. He picks interesting subjects, but his show is a bit dry at times, although reasonably entertaining, and he's not out on any crazy wing, politically. (I don't know about everyone else, but when they start the nutty way-out opinions, or start swearing, or start telling you how all of one party or religion are bad, or talking about some stupid sex thing-- then my radio channel gets changed, usually to music.) However, his rating on the integrity meter took a big slump when, a couple weeks ago, I heard his personal endorsement of a gasoline additive that claims 10-20% increase in mileage. All of those type of products have been scientifically proven to be completely or at least, mostly, worthless. Also, see Clark Howard's comments on that type of product. Now, there's a talk show host that rates high on the integrity meter! From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Sep 7 15:34:46 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:34:46 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <004201c7f178$60585640$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> References: <004201c7f178$60585640$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: At 1:56 PM -0400 9/7/07, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: >Please do not say "Righties" unless using "Lefties" to describe Mr. Shultz >and his counterparts. Your slant is tipping over my computer. I'd describe Mr. Schultz as somewhat of a "Midlie" on some issues. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Sep 7 15:38:51 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:38:51 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: References: <004201c7f178$60585640$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: At 2:03 PM -0400 9/7/07, David Tomm wrote: >Schultz uses the term "lefties" on his show all the time to refer to >the most liberal wings of the Democratic party. And Alex Bennett on Sirius Left describes himself and others of the same persuasion as "Lefties". I think in this context and the others used in previous posts it and "Righty" are being used as a descriptive terms and not as any kind of a slur. I don't see how anyone would take it as a slur when it's merely being used descriptively. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Sep 7 15:49:10 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:49:10 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <00d001c7f184$e28a25b0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <20070907073816.2E3A883985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <00d001c7f184$e28a25b0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: At 3:25 PM -0400 9/7/07, Mark Casey wrote: > >However, his rating on the integrity meter took a big slump when, a >couple weeks ago, I heard his personal endorsement of a gasoline >additive that claims 10-20% increase in mileage. All of those type >of products have been scientifically proven to be completely or at >least, mostly, worthless. Also, see Clark Howard's comments on that >type of product. Now, there's a talk show host that rates high on >the integrity meter! I heard that too, and had the same reaction you did. I sometimes listen to Shultz on Sirius Left if I'm not working at that time.. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Sep 7 16:07:17 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:07:17 -0500 Subject: Ed Schultz Message-ID: <20070907200718.04FAC83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> >>Edit Bunker: So long as it ain't so severe. :) (Bunkers returning from seeing a movie) Archie: That was one of the filthiest things I ever seen in my life-- why did you drag me to that movie? Edith: But I thought it was a religious picture--"Cardinal Knowledge" :) From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 7 16:20:59 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 16:20:59 -0400 Subject: Big announcement at 5 PM on WEEI Message-ID: <4fc429770709071320rc80b607jb29fc14a8b3a8859@mail.gmail.com> Glenn Ordway has been teasing all afternoon that there will be a BIG announcement concerning WEEI at 5 PM David Scott is blogging that it is not believed to be related to D&C http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/archives/shots/eei_announcement_at_5_pm_not_believed_to_be_dc_related.php and he throws ANOTHER station into the D&C rumor mill 98.5 From radio88@radio88.net Fri Sep 7 16:23:19 2007 From: radio88@radio88.net (Todd Glickman) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 16:23:19 -0400 Subject: Sponsored Traffic Helicopters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In NYC at WCBS Newsradio, we've had "McDonald's Chopper 880" for a number of years. When our reporter Tom Kaminski is unable to fly (i.e. bad weather), he's in the "traffic center" but outcues with "...with the Subaru all-wheel drive ground patrol." -- Todd Glickman Associate Director, Office of Corporate Relations Massachusetts Institute of Technology, E38-400 292 Main Street, 4th Floor Cambridge, MA 02139 Email: glickman@mit.edu Phone: (617) 452-2457 Certified Broadcast Meteorologist WCBS Newsradio-880 New York City, NY Email: radio88@radio88.net From lglavin@mail.com Fri Sep 7 17:01:25 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 16:01:25 -0500 Subject: Ed Schultz Message-ID: <20070907210125.2A396102ED@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Casey" >To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" >Subject: Re: Ed Schultz >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:25:43 - >However, his rating on the integrity meter took a big slump when, a >couple weeks ago, I heard his personal endorsement of a gasoline >additive that claims 10-20% increase in mileage. All of those type >of products have been scientifically proven to be completely or at >least, mostly, worthless. Also, see Clark Howard's comments on that >type of product. Now, there's a talk show host that rates high on >the integrity meter! I viewed Ed's appearance on C-Span and was indeed surprised by that gasoline additive segment. It detracted from the rest of the show, which I thought might have been a good commercial for the sales reps at Jones Radio otherwise. Conversely, the Neal Boortz show was a downer, just another right-wing host mouthing the traditional platitudes of that genre. So you can imagine my near-state-of-shock when he stated his show would by picked up, presumably ona tape-delayed basis, by the new Three-W-T stations in Washington, DC to run against Rushbo. As the guy in the Geico commercial says: "this don't make a lick of sense"...a pallid Rush wannabe against the real thing, when if they picked up Ed Schultz or Thom Hartmann, they would be counterprogramming with shows that have demonstrated some success elsewhere. Something tells me the WWWT number between noon and 3:00 pm will be 0.0. -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From me@billoneill.us Fri Sep 7 20:39:59 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 20:39:59 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: References: <004201c7f178$60585640$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: <46E1EF5F.9090107@billoneill.us> Larry Weil wrote: > And Alex Bennett on Sirius Left describes himself and others of the > same persuasion as "Lefties". I think in this context and the others > used in previous posts it and "Righty" are being used as a descriptive > terms and not as any kind of a slur. I don't see how anyone would > take it as a slur when it's merely being used descriptively. > Now, so long as we don't drift into the uncharted territories of "baldies" or "smellies" or "goofies" or "fatties" or "skinnies" or "innies" or "outies" or "not-funnies" or.... On a serious note, if it's Auntie Donna, we can all just relax already! It's Friday. :-) Bill O'Neill From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Fri Sep 7 21:54:06 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Big announcement at 5 PM on WEEI In-Reply-To: <4fc429770709071320rc80b607jb29fc14a8b3a8859@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79297.97849.qm@web55302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> --- Kevin Vahey wrote: > Glenn Ordway has been teasing all afternoon that > there will be a BIG > announcement concerning WEEI at 5 PM Well....What was the announcement...??? ;-) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Fri Sep 7 21:56:11 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <00d001c7f184$e28a25b0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <900037.58761.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> > >>I am still mystified by why nobody picks up Ed > Schultz-- the guy > has proved he can make money and get ratings... I thought Auntie Donna was having an affair with keith Olbermann.....What's this with Ed Shultz? How many men can you have? (What does Jon think about all this?) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Sep 7 22:14:07 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 22:14:07 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <900037.58761.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <00d001c7f184$e28a25b0$0200a8c0@yourm3vezyx8af> <900037.58761.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070908021420.B155B645973@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> >Don wrote-- > >I thought Auntie Donna was having an affair with keith >Olbermann.....What's this with Ed Shultz? > >How many men can you have? Alas, Keith has a girlfriend and Ed has a wife. But as for how many men I can have... just one, but what's wrong with a little fantasy? 8-) From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 7 22:40:01 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 22:40:01 -0400 Subject: Big announcement at 5 PM on WEEI In-Reply-To: <79297.97849.qm@web55302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <4fc429770709071320rc80b607jb29fc14a8b3a8859@mail.gmail.com> <79297.97849.qm@web55302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770709071940tf57f9a5pcb4515c81fff7787@mail.gmail.com> a big nothing it turned out On 9/7/07, Donald A. wrote: > > --- Kevin Vahey wrote: > > > Glenn Ordway has been teasing all afternoon that > > there will be a BIG > > announcement concerning WEEI at 5 PM > > Well....What was the announcement...??? > > ;-) > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated > for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Sep 8 02:37:40 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 02:37:40 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz References: <20070907073816.2E3A883985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com><20070907081115.D2F151B4043@relay5.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com><46E13FF3.5050706@gabrielmass.com><20070907164619.E0F3A1B411E@relay6.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> <6c209a9170042ee7cac03699c44120ac@charter.net> Message-ID: <00cd01c7f1e3$8f32a680$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> > Progressives don't waste their time with Wars on Christmas or > "Family Values" agendas. They don't have to pander to the religious > right... Instead, they just pander to the Liberal Left. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Sep 8 03:09:01 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 03:09:01 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <00cd01c7f1e3$8f32a680$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> References: <20070907073816.2E3A883985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <20070907081115.D2F151B4043@relay5.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> <46E13FF3.5050706@gabrielmass.com> <20070907164619.E0F3A1B411E@relay6.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> <6c209a9170042ee7cac03699c44120ac@charter.net> <00cd01c7f1e3$8f32a680$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> Message-ID: <20070908070914.9F4FB44C038@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 02:37 AM 9/8/2007, Don A wrote: >>Progressives don't waste their time with Wars on Christmas or >>"Family Values" agendas. They don't have to pander to the religious right... > > >Instead, they just pander to the Liberal Left. I don't think progressive talkers pander any more than rightie talkers do. Talk show hosts are there to appeal to their base, their target audience. I do find some of the progressives a lot more honest and a lot more balanced than the Michael Savages and Rush Limbaughs of the world-- Thom Hartmann is quite accurate in his assessments of most issues, and he seldom bashes anyone-- he even has conservatives on his show as guests. So does Ed Schultz sometimes, and he's more of a moderate than a "liberal". But that said, I don't mind liberals, I don't mind conservatives. But I do mind insults and hate speech no matter which side is doing it. From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Sep 8 03:22:14 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 02:22:14 -0500 Subject: Big announcement at 5 PM on WEEI Message-ID: <20070908072214.1F01C83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> >>Well....What was the announcement...??? They're adding more people to Patriots Monday and Patriots Friday including Boomer Esiason (who used to be on the morning show) and will give away one pair of Patriots season tickets. That was it. From paul@derrynh.net Sat Sep 8 06:46:02 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 06:46:02 -0400 Subject: Big announcement at 5 PM on WEEI In-Reply-To: <20070908072214.1F01C83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000401c7f205$742fdac0$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> When's Boomer going to find the time, between his new WFAN morning show and MNF? -Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 3:22 AM To: Donald A.; Kevin Vahey; BRI Subject: Re: Big announcement at 5 PM on WEEI >>Well....What was the announcement...??? They're adding more people to Patriots Monday and Patriots Friday including Boomer Esiason (who used to be on the morning show) and will give away one pair of Patriots season tickets. That was it. From raccoonradio@mail.com Sun Sep 9 08:10:37 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 07:10:37 -0500 Subject: Ed Schultz Message-ID: <20070909121037.5F3DA83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> It was mentioned on another messageboard that Jones Radio finances his show now, a company owned and run by conservatives--Hannity doesn't mention this but people can conveniently leave out info if it damages their causes. (A left- leaning film maker from Flint, MI, comes to mind...) :) Hopefully not all "righties" would say language like that, but as the saying goes "maybe it was the booze talking" (or maybe in vino veritas: in wine, or beer, there is truth, and opinions one has about another get magnified). As Bill Cosby once put it (talking about drugs, actually), "People tell me it magnifies their personality. Yes...but what if you're (a jerk)?" He uses a stronger term than that, actually. You're right about Terry Francona, who gets dogged by not only fans of other teams but Red Sox fans...he'll be getting into or out of his hotel and they'll tag along, offer "suggestions" and such, and he just wants to be left alone. I don't know how many affiliates Ed has but he apparently does have many and sponsors-- and makes money, true...Hannity does leave that out. I'm just mentioning what Sean said on air in that brief moment I had him on. (Normally would be listening to Howie but thanks to the contract dispute he was off all week so I tuned to 1150) OK on Sean-Ed debate, or lack thereof!--Bob From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sun Sep 9 12:50:57 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 12:50:57 -0400 Subject: WUNR Message-ID: <007001c7f301$b5b93840$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> When I was growing up north of Boston in the 60's and 70's....I woul occaisionally see WUNR listed among the Boston stations. Try as I might...I could *never* (I mean never!) pick up that station. Not that there was anything to listen to on WUNR that even remotely interested me. ;-) I believe sometime in the 70's I saw a coverage map that had the signal coming from west of Boston...and over Boston and then straight out to sea. (Almost like a "V" shape.) Next to virtually no signal going North or South. I find lately when I hit 'scan' on the car radio that it actually stops at 1600AM...and I can actually hear the station. (Not that I understand anything.) ;-) Here is their current pattern: http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WUNR&service=AM&status=L&hours=U That signal doesn't look half bad (compared to the map I saw in the 70's.) I know WUNR has a CP out right now and have or about to upgrade their facilities....But, did they do an upgrade of their facilities sometime between the 70's and now to open up more coverage to the North and South? Have they always been 5KW? Just curious.... D From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Sep 9 13:46:27 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 13:46:27 -0400 Subject: WUNR References: <007001c7f301$b5b93840$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> Message-ID: <000c01c7f309$5c380960$68a24c0c@SatU205S5044> AFAIK, WUNR has been licensed to Brookline and has had the same technical facilities from the same transmitter location since it originally signed on in 1947: 5 kW-U DA-1 from two more-than-half-wave towers in the Oak Hill section of Newton. The CP, which is under construction at the original site, is for 20 kW DA-1 from five towers. Three of the towers will be shared with WKOX (50 kW-U DA-2) and five towers day/four night will be shared with WRCA (25 kW-D/17 kW-N DA-2). Since the new towers are only about 116 degrees at 1600, whereas the old ones were, IIRC, 205, the power increase will be a lot less impressive than the raw numbers suggest. Also the new pattern is much narrower than the old. WUNR needs to protect first-adjacent-channel stations in Nashua NH and W Warwick RI and, because of the "ratchet rule," which requires reductions in interference to existing stations, it must reduce radiation to the north and south. The new 20-kW pattern will send most signal to the east in a fairly narrow arc focused on inner-city Boston, which is the target market for WUNR's brokered ethnic programming. The same statements are true for WRCA, which, in addition, is moving south from Waltham to the Newton site, and will take major signal hits day and night to the northwest of Boston. At some point in WUNR's 60-year existence, co-channel WWRL New York City, the major source of nighttime interference to WUNR, upgraded--from a 250 ND Class IV (on a Class III channel) licensed to the Queens nighborhood of Woodside--first to 5 kW DA-2 licensed to New York and more recently to 25 kW-D/5 kW-N DA-2. The first WWRL upgrade (in the mid '50s, I think), probably reduced interference to WUNR--which may still have been WVOM or WBOS (AM) at the time. From a technical standpoint, until WUNR gets its CP on the air, the WWRL upgrades and a number of changes to the 1600 station in E Longmeadow were probably the most significant events to affect WUNR since it was built. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don A" To: "BRI" Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: WUNR > > When I was growing up north of Boston in the 60's and 70's....I woul > occaisionally see WUNR listed among the Boston stations. Try as I > might...I could *never* (I mean never!) pick up that station. > > Not that there was anything to listen to on WUNR that even remotely > interested me. ;-) > > I believe sometime in the 70's I saw a coverage map that had the > signal coming from west of Boston...and over Boston and then > straight out to sea. (Almost like a "V" shape.) Next to virtually > no signal going North or South. > > I find lately when I hit 'scan' on the car radio that it actually > stops at 1600AM...and I can actually hear the station. (Not that I > understand anything.) ;-) > > Here is their current pattern: > > http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WUNR&service=AM&status=L&hours=U > > That signal doesn't look half bad (compared to the map I saw in the > 70's.) > > I know WUNR has a CP out right now and have or about to upgrade > their facilities....But, did they do an upgrade of their facilities > sometime between the 70's and now to open up more coverage to the > North and South? > > Have they always been 5KW? > > Just curious.... > > D > > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Sep 9 13:48:07 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 13:48:07 -0400 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc Message-ID: <20070909174823.AAA261B4D86@relay5.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> At 01:28 PM 9/9/2007, Lou G wrote: >>However, the Hildreth family, owners of WLAW, which moved to Andover >>to Burlington and increased from 5 kW to 50 kW... > >I thought it was the Rogers family that owned WLAW...the Family tha >towned the Eagle-Tribune. > >WLAW originally signed on with 1KW... WHen did the go to 5kw? Yes the Rogers family owned it for years-- from 1937 till 1953, if my memory serves me well. When the various stations in Boston swapped frequencies, WNAC finally got the 680 frequency it wanted, and was able to give up the 1260 frequency it hated. Vic Diehm, a Pennsylvania broadcaster, bought it and turned it into WVDA. I don't have my files with me, but I recall that yes, WLAW first went on the air with 1000 wonderful watts. But they were 5000 by the mid 1940s, and they even went to 50,000 circa 1951. I am sure somebody has the exact date. From raccoonradio@mail.com Sun Sep 9 17:45:21 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 16:45:21 -0500 Subject: Dennis and Callahan return; 5 year deal Message-ID: <20070909214521.7009F83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/shots John Dennis and Gerry Callahan will return to WEEI tomorrow, in time to talk about Red Sox and Patriots wins this afternoon. They've reached a five year deal with Entercom, who will release details tomorrow, according to Boston Sports Media Watch's David Scott. From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Sep 9 23:54:28 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:54:28 -0500 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <20070909121037.5F3DA83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070909121037.5F3DA83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <46E479A4.11406.1F1C1A8@joe.attorneyross.com> On 9 Sep 2007 at 7:10, Bob Nelson wrote: > It was mentioned on another messageboard that Jones Radio finances his > show now, a company owned and run by conservatives--Hannity doesn't > mention this but people can conveniently leave out info if it damages > their causes. (A left- leaning film maker from Flint, MI, comes to > mind...) :) Jones Radio is owned by conservatives? So why DO they carry Ed Shultz and Stephanie Miller? I thought Jones Radio was somehow connected to Mother Jones magazine - - which is anything but conservative. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Sun Sep 9 23:29:37 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 22:29:37 -0500 Subject: Ed Schultz Message-ID: <20070910032937.AFA8683985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Wikipedia says the "Jones" in the name is Glenn R. Jones. As far as I know there is no connection to Mother Jones magazine which was named after a labor organizer who died way back in 1930. Jones Media has a whole bunch of radio services and formats, etc. Stephanie Miller, Bill Press, Ed Schultz, Neal Boortz, and Clark Howard are among their talk offerings. Musically, they offer formats like Music of Your Life, etc. From nostaticatall@charter.net Mon Sep 10 00:10:42 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:10:42 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <20070910032937.AFA8683985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070910032937.AFA8683985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Jones does not own the Ed Schultz show. It merely distributes it. The show is owned by a group of investors led by Randy Michaels, the former head honcho at Clear Channel. He does have a background in conservative talk, being a former PD of Cincinnati talker WLW and later bringing Rush Limbaugh into Premiere Radio Networks while running Clear Channel. Since leaving CC he has dabbled in a variety of different media, including regional TV ownership and yes, progressive talk. Many syndicated talk shows are not owned by the companies that distribute them. They may offer sales support, use of studio space and the satellite uplinks, but ownership is a different story. While Premiere distributes Limbaugh, I don't think they own the show outright. I would think at this point Rush has full ownership of his program. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Sep 9, 2007, at 11:29 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > Wikipedia says the "Jones" in the name is Glenn R. Jones. As far as I > know there is no connection to > Mother Jones magazine which was named after a labor organizer who died > way back in 1930. Jones Media > has a whole bunch of radio services and formats, etc. Stephanie > Miller, Bill Press, Ed Schultz, > Neal Boortz, and Clark Howard are among their talk offerings. > Musically, they offer formats > like Music of Your Life, etc. > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 00:44:42 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:44:42 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz References: <20070909121037.5F3DA83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> <46E479A4.11406.1F1C1A8@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <028901c7f365$731cc420$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> >> It was mentioned on another messageboard that Jones Radio finances his >> show now, a company owned and run by conservatives--Hannity doesn't >> mention this but people can conveniently leave out info if it damages >> their causes. (A left- leaning film maker from Flint, MI, comes to >> mind...) :) > > Jones Radio is owned by conservatives? So why DO they carry Ed > Shultz and Stephanie Miller? This may come as a shock to idealogues and those not in the business. These companies are in the business to MAKE MONEY...as make as much as they can. That's what their bosses and owners expect of them, that's how they hold onto their jobs...and thats what they're accountable for. Ideology does not come before that.....except at Air America. (And we know how that worked out, don't we...?) All this talk about Clear Channel programming by their political leanings is just nonsense. Bottom line drives everything. From scott@fybush.com Mon Sep 10 01:14:02 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:14:02 -0400 Subject: Paul Sullivan Message-ID: <46E4D29A.3020506@fybush.com> has died, WBZ is reporting. A sad night for Boston radio. I don't really have much more to add to the news right now. Knowing it was coming doesn't make it any easier. Keep his family in your thoughts tonight, won't you? s From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 01:19:39 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 22:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Paul Sullivan In-Reply-To: <46E4D29A.3020506@fybush.com> Message-ID: <364475.78136.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Scott Fybush wrote: > has died, WBZ is reporting. > > A sad night for Boston radio. > > I don't really have much more to add to the news right now. Knowing > it > was coming doesn't make it any easier. > > Keep his family in your thoughts tonight, won't you? RIP and condolences to his friends and family. WBZ has been hit hard the past few years...first Bruds, now Sully. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Sep 10 01:48:57 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:48:57 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <20070910032937.AFA8683985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070910032937.AFA8683985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20070910054914.B4CEA1B4020@relay1.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> At 11:29 PM 9/9/2007, Bob Nelson wrote: >Wikipedia says the "Jones" in the name is Glenn R. Jones. As far as >I know there is no connection to >Mother Jones magazine which was named after a labor organizer who >died way back in 1930. And Mother Jones wasn't her real name, whereas Glenn R. Jones really is his name. Glenn is absolutely a rightie, but to his credit, he has never meddled with Ed or Stephanie or any of the progressive talkers. It's business-- they make money, he's happy. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Sep 10 01:56:14 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:56:14 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: References: <20070910032937.AFA8683985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20070910055632.0E9001B400C@relay1.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> At 12:10 AM 9/10/2007, David Tomm wrote: >Jones does not own the Ed Schultz show. It merely distributes >it. The show is owned by a group of investors led by Randy >Michaels, the former head honcho at Clear Channel. He does have a >background in conservative talk, being a former PD of Cincinnati >talker WLW and later bringing Rush Limbaugh into Premiere Radio >Networks while running Clear Channel. True. Stu Krane is the other head honcho, but Ed and Wendy now own a piece of the show too. The company is called P1 (Product First), and again, it really is about the dollars. Ed's show has been turning a profit since about March of last year and he is on at least 100 stations. What frustrates him is that no matter how much money he makes for his owners and syndicators, and no matter how good his ratings, some chains like ABC broadcast no progressive talk whatsoever. He believes he could get numbers for anybody that puts him on and gives him a chance. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Sep 10 02:17:37 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:17:37 -0400 Subject: death of Paul Sullivan Message-ID: <20070910061756.D38B41B4008@relay1.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> The Lowell Sun has this posted to their website already. WBZ and Boston.com have nothing yet. Paul Sullivan dies at age 50 The Lowell Sun Lowell Sun Article Last Updated:09/09/2007 10:34:40 PM EDT LOWELL -- Paul Sullivan, the irrepressible veteran Sun columnist, popular radio talk show host and educator who turned his battle with cancer into an example of the bravery and grace with which such epics can be fought, has died. He was 50 years old, and leaves his wife of a decade, Mary Jo Griffin, and children, Ryan, Ashley And Kerri Sullivan, and Caitlin and Colleen Ferry. Sullivan also leaves his parents, Kevin and Peg Sullivan, which bothered him immensely. And he leaves legions of listeners and readers who will miss his wit and wisdom. Sullivan was diagnosed with stage IV melanoma in November 2004. Nearly three years and four surgeries after his cancer diagnosis, Sullivan died at Saints Medical Center in Lowell, where he was also born. He moved from his home in Salisbury to the hospital Aug. 29, eight days after entering hospice care. He entered under a fake name supplied by the hospital. Despite the assumed name, family, friends and colleagues knew where to find him -- Room 334 -- and were a constant presence. His wife rarely left his side. Since his original diagnosis on Nov. 22, 2004, she tenaciously guarded the course of his care. A wall of his corner room on the hospital's third floor was plastered with family photographs. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Mon Sep 10 06:00:07 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:00:07 -0400 Subject: Paul Sullivan In-Reply-To: <46E4D29A.3020506@fybush.com> References: <46E4D29A.3020506@fybush.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Fybush Date: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:15 am Subject: Paul Sullivan > has died, WBZ is reporting. > > A sad night for Boston radio. > > I don't really have much more to add to the news right now. > Knowing it > was coming doesn't make it any easier. > > Keep his family in your thoughts tonight, won't you? > another taken far too soon. he was able to bring his love and knowledge of current events, most especially the political scene. to his family - know that he was most highly regarded among his broadcast peers. - -Chuck Igo From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Sep 10 07:45:51 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:45:51 -0500 Subject: Paul Sullivan Message-ID: <20070910114551.6FD3583BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> I just checked NERW and saw the sad news. While I did know that the decision had been made to stop treatments, I was shocked that his demise has come so soon after that fact. He managed to hang on through various surgeries and treatments and, as a Herald column noted recently, still kept a positive attitude and a recognition that despite it all, he still had a wonderful life with loving friends, family, and colleagues. You get what you give is the old saying; I'm guessing that Paul got back a lot of love because he gave a lot of love. Reminds me of the case of Ken "Casey" ("K.C.") Coleman Jr., the Cleveland broadcaster and son of the Red Sox broadcasting legend, who passed on from pancreatic cancer (IIRC) but had considered himself TLGITW: The Luckiest Guy In The World. (I think even his license plate said that.) Even though he, too, had to go through a lot of pain toward the end and died too early, he still realized ultimately how lucky--and loved--he was. Prayers for Paul's soul and his family and close friends/colleagues. From me@billoneill.us Mon Sep 10 11:25:34 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:25:34 -0400 Subject: Paul Sullivan In-Reply-To: References: <46E4D29A.3020506@fybush.com> Message-ID: <46E561EE.5030103@billoneill.us> chuckigo@maine.rr.com wrote: > another taken far too soon. he was able to bring his love and > knowledge of current events, most especially the political scene. > > to his family - know that he was most highly regarded among his > broadcast peers. > > - -Chuck Igo > A sad day. God's blessings to Paul's family and many friends. http://billonotes.wordpress.com/2007/09/07/paul-sullivan Bill O'Neill From loug@gawab.com Sun Sep 9 13:28:22 2007 From: loug@gawab.com (Lou G) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 13:28:22 -0400 Subject: Prov. shuffle: Rush, Buddy, etc References: <20070906205845.E013016427D@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> <003f01c7f0d3$312ff260$eead4c0c@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <00a301c7f307$5dd50270$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> > However, the Hildreth family, owners of WLAW, which moved to Andover > to Burlington and increased from 5 kW to 50 kW... I thought it was the Rogers family that owned WLAW...the Family tha towned the Eagle-Tribune. WLAW originally signed on with 1KW... WHen did the go to 5kw? From kvahey@gmail.com Mon Sep 10 12:06:51 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:06:51 -0400 Subject: Harvard football boasts about powerful AM signal Message-ID: <4fc429770709100906j7aaa8202h7fdd474b472c2b31@mail.gmail.com> Harvard football will be on 1510 this year. The Harvard athletic department says the following The radio signal, powered by a 50,000-watt transmitter in Waltham, Mass., gives the Crimson a broadcast reach from Boston into central Massachusetts and parts of New Hampshire, Rhode Island and Connecticut. http://www.gocrimson.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9000&KEY=&ATCLID=542289&SPID=3659&SPSID=56331 From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Sep 10 15:31:21 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:31:21 -0400 Subject: Harvard football boasts about powerful AM signal References: <4fc429770709100906j7aaa8202h7fdd474b472c2b31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001701c7f3e1$3521fec0$1da34c0c@SatU205S5044> True--when WWZN is on day (NOT critical hours) pattern. I don't think WWZN can legitimately claim to reach Connecticut during critical hours or at night. Problem is that critical hours begin two hours before sunset. IIRC, sunset is at 7:00PM EDT in September, 6:00PM EDT/5:00PM EST in October, and 4:30PM EST in November. So CH begins between 5:00PM and 2:30PM in the months of interest. Connecticut won't be a good place to listen to college football games on WWZN during much of the season. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:06 PM Subject: Harvard football boasts about powerful AM signal > Harvard football will be on 1510 this year. > > The Harvard athletic department says the following > > The radio signal, powered by a 50,000-watt transmitter in Waltham, > Mass., gives the Crimson a broadcast reach from Boston into central > Massachusetts and parts of New Hampshire, Rhode Island and > Connecticut. > > http://www.gocrimson.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9000&KEY=&ATCLID=542289&SPID=3659&SPSID=56331 From jjlehmann@comcast.net Mon Sep 10 16:44:54 2007 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:44:54 -0400 Subject: Paul Sullivan In-Reply-To: <46E4D29A.3020506@fybush.com> Message-ID: <00bd01c7f3eb$71239550$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > has died, WBZ is reporting. > > A sad night for Boston radio. > > I don't really have much more to add to the news right now. Knowing it > was coming doesn't make it any easier. > > Keep his family in your thoughts tonight, won't you? My prayers go out to his family and friends also. Having lost my father to cancer 6 years ago, at approximately the same age as Paul, I know what they are going through. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From paul@derrynh.net Mon Sep 10 16:57:22 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:57:22 -0400 Subject: Harvard football boasts about powerful AM signal In-Reply-To: <001701c7f3e1$3521fec0$1da34c0c@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <000301c7f3ed$300d86a0$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> One correction....Daylight Saving Time does not end until the First Saturday in November (new change this year) -Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:31 PM To: Kevin Vahey; bri@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Harvard football boasts about powerful AM signal True--when WWZN is on day (NOT critical hours) pattern. I don't think WWZN can legitimately claim to reach Connecticut during critical hours or at night. Problem is that critical hours begin two hours before sunset. IIRC, sunset is at 7:00PM EDT in September, 6:00PM EDT/5:00PM EST in October, and 4:30PM EST in November. So CH begins between 5:00PM and 2:30PM in the months of interest. Connecticut won't be a good place to listen to college football games on WWZN during much of the season. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:06 PM Subject: Harvard football boasts about powerful AM signal > Harvard football will be on 1510 this year. > > The Harvard athletic department says the following > > The radio signal, powered by a 50,000-watt transmitter in Waltham, > Mass., gives the Crimson a broadcast reach from Boston into central > Massachusetts and parts of New Hampshire, Rhode Island and > Connecticut. > > http://www.gocrimson.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9000&KEY=&ATCLID=542289& SPID=3659&SPSID=56331 From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Sep 10 18:27:38 2007 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:27:38 -0400 Subject: Ed Schultz In-Reply-To: <46E479A4.11406.1F1C1A8@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <20070909121037.5F3DA83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> <46E479A4.11406.1F1C1A8@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Donna Halper" ; "Bob Nelson" Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: Re: Ed Schultz > Jones Radio is owned by conservatives? So why DO they carry Ed > Shultz and Stephanie Miller? Real conservatives have no problem making money off liberals! ;-) From lglavin@mail.com Tue Sep 11 15:13:06 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:13:06 -0500 Subject: WSMN Gets Extension Thru March 2008 Message-ID: <20070911191306.7FA22478097@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> I haven't been over to the WUNR/WRCA/WKOX transmitter site on Sawmill Brook Parkway since July, but I suspect there are vehicles there right now (even on a rainy day) as engineers prepare the site for its two new occupants (WRCA and WKOX) and changes for a longtime tenant, WUNR. As far as the latter is concerned, any testing to be done will be based on the assumption that Nashua, NH's WSMN-AM 1590 will someday resume operations with its licensed facility, 5,000 watts DA-1 from just west of NH route 3. But right now, it's operating with a temporary STA (I know, the Dept. of Superfluous Redundancy Dept. will say STA's by definition are temporary) of about 200 watts until a new permanent array can be built. I checked the WSMN entry at fcc.gov's website and it includes correspondence from mid-August that allows WSMN to maintain its current facilities until no later than next March. The letter assumes that Absolute Broadcasting is making a legitimate effort to find a new site and build the requisite array. As Bob the furniture guy says, I doubt it. (Also, it appears to me that the FCC believes that WSMN is transmitting from W. Hollis St and not from the AM 900 tower on Pine Street in downtown Nashua.) If WSMN doesn't get its act together and start running 5KW DA-1 by next spring, could the gummint shut them down until they do? Or could they apply for some NDA operation similar to what they're doing now, giving WUNR an opportunity to emit a little more juice in a northwesterly direction? -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From ssmyth@psualum.com Tue Sep 11 15:33:28 2007 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WSMN Gets Extension Thru March 2008 In-Reply-To: <20070911191306.7FA22478097@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <367551.62559.qm@web58310.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: > I haven't been over to the WUNR/WRCA/WKOX transmitter site on Sawmill > Brook > Parkway since July, but I suspect there are vehicles there right now > (even on > a rainy day) as engineers prepare the site for its two new occupants > (WRCA > and WKOX) and changes for a longtime tenant, WUNR. As far as the > latter is > concerned, any testing to be done will be based on the assumption > that > Nashua, NH's WSMN-AM 1590 will someday resume operations with its > licensed > facility, 5,000 watts DA-1 from just west of NH route 3. But right > now, > it's operating with a temporary STA (I know, the Dept. of Superfluous > Redundancy > Dept. will say STA's by definition are temporary) of about 200 watts > until a new > permanent array can be built. I checked the WSMN entry at fcc.gov's > website and > it includes correspondence from mid-August that allows WSMN to > maintain its current > facilities until no later than next March. The letter assumes that > Absolute > Broadcasting is making a legitimate effort to find a new site and > build the > requisite array. As Bob the furniture guy says, I doubt it. (Also, > it appears to me that the FCC believes that WSMN is transmitting from > W. Hollis St > and not from the AM 900 tower on Pine Street in downtown Nashua.) If > WSMN > doesn't get its act together and start running 5KW DA-1 by next > spring, could > the gummint shut them down until they do? Or could they apply for > some NDA > operation similar to what they're doing now, giving WUNR an > opportunity to emit a > little more juice in a northwesterly direction? Wherever Absolute tries to build around the Nashua area, it will face NIMBY opposition aplenty. What are the technical reasons (if any) that the FCC wouldn't allow 1590 to diplex with 900? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Sep 11 15:58:27 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:58:27 -0400 Subject: WSMN Gets Extension Thru March 2008 References: <20070911191306.7FA22478097@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <002501c7f4ae$36d89940$6da54c0c@SatU205S5044> Highly unlikely that WSMN will be shut down. Stations have operated under STA for decades. KOB--during all of the legal machinations that attended its operation on 770--did so for at least 30 years, I'd guess. WNYC (AM) did from the early '40s until it found a new home on 820 in the late 80s, I believe. And those are but two that come to mind. More recently and around here, what was then WSRO operated under STA for four or five years and its successor, WAZN, also did so for a couple of years. Before that, what is now WBIX operated under STA from 1981 until it went dark in what, 1993? STA's may not be forever, but they tend to run longer than broadcast licenses, which, under current rules, must be renewed every eight years. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:13 PM Subject: WSMN Gets Extension Thru March 2008 I haven't been over to the WUNR/WRCA/WKOX transmitter site on Sawmill Brook Parkway since July, but I suspect there are vehicles there right now (even on a rainy day) as engineers prepare the site for its two new occupants (WRCA and WKOX) and changes for a longtime tenant, WUNR. As far as the latter is concerned, any testing to be done will be based on the assumption that Nashua, NH's WSMN-AM 1590 will someday resume operations with its licensed facility, 5,000 watts DA-1 from just west of NH route 3. But right now, it's operating with a temporary STA (I know, the Dept. of Superfluous Redundancy Dept. will say STA's by definition are temporary) of about 200 watts until a new permanent array can be built. I checked the WSMN entry at fcc.gov's website and it includes correspondence from mid-August that allows WSMN to maintain its current facilities until no later than next March. The letter assumes that Absolute Broadcasting is making a legitimate effort to find a new site and build the requisite array. As Bob the furniture guy says, I doubt it. (Also, it appears to me that the FCC believes that WSMN is transmitting from W. Hollis St and not from the AM 900 tower on Pine Street in downtown Nashua.) If WSMN doesn't get its act together and start running 5KW DA-1 by next spring, could the gummint shut them down until they do? Or could they apply for some NDA operation similar to what they're doing now, giving WUNR an opportunity to emit a little more juice in a northwesterly direction? -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Sep 11 16:53:22 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:53:22 -0400 Subject: Harvard football boasts about powerful AM signal In-Reply-To: <001701c7f3e1$3521fec0$1da34c0c@SatU205S5044> References: <4fc429770709100906j7aaa8202h7fdd474b472c2b31@mail.gmail.com> <001701c7f3e1$3521fec0$1da34c0c@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4fc429770709111353u1bf8cfabuc6e169fb580fc3c0@mail.gmail.com> Harvard's first game is at night to boot. Still it is a step up for Harvard from WJDA. On 9/10/07, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > True--when WWZN is on day (NOT critical hours) pattern. I don't think > WWZN can legitimately claim to reach Connecticut during critical hours > or at night. Problem is that critical hours begin two hours before > sunset. IIRC, sunset is at 7:00PM EDT in September, 6:00PM EDT/5:00PM > EST in October, and 4:30PM EST in November. So CH begins between > 5:00PM and 2:30PM in the months of interest. Connecticut won't be a > good place to listen to college football games on WWZN during much of > the season. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Vahey" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:06 PM > Subject: Harvard football boasts about powerful AM signal > > > > Harvard football will be on 1510 this year. > > > > The Harvard athletic department says the following > > > > The radio signal, powered by a 50,000-watt transmitter in Waltham, > > Mass., gives the Crimson a broadcast reach from Boston into central > > Massachusetts and parts of New Hampshire, Rhode Island and > > Connecticut. > > > > > http://www.gocrimson.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9000&KEY=&ATCLID=542289&SPID=3659&SPSID=56331 > > From lglavin@mail.com Wed Sep 12 17:51:00 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:51:00 -0500 Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show Message-ID: <20070912215100.569EC478092@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> I happened to be at a local auto repair shop just over the state line in NH, and there was a copy of the Concord Monitor (why would a newspaper name itself after a lizard; ok the Sacramento Bee named itself after an insect and the Lawrence Eagle-Tribune us partially named after a scavenger) nearby. In it was a short item announcing the intention of WCCM-AM 1110 to start broadcasting a morning show from 6:00 am till 9:00 am hosted by Arnie Arnesen. Of course, unless WCCM acquires a pre-sunrise license, her show will come on at sunrise (WCCM apparently has a post-sunset authorization until sunset in Charlotte, NC.) The article did not mention the starting date, and for all I know, it could be on-the-air already. -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From ssmyth@psualum.com Wed Sep 12 18:45:32 2007 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show In-Reply-To: <20070912215100.569EC478092@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <594397.59034.qm@web58302.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: > I happened to be at a local auto repair shop just over the state line > in NH, and there was a copy > of the Concord Monitor (why would a newspaper name itself after a > lizard; ok the Sacramento > Bee named itself after an insect and the Lawrence Eagle-Tribune us > partially named after a > scavenger) nearby. In it was a short item announcing the intention > of WCCM-AM 1110 > to start broadcasting a morning show from 6:00 am till 9:00 am hosted > by Arnie Arnesen. > Of course, unless WCCM acquires a pre-sunrise license, her show will > come on at > sunrise (WCCM apparently has a post-sunset authorization until sunset > in Charlotte, NC.) > The article did not mention the starting date, and for all I know, it > could be on-the-air already. The Concord Monitor is available that far south? Didn't think it was. Anyway, appears from the Web site that her show is on already. And I'm assuming her show would be streamed online beginning at 6 a.m., PSRA or no. www.1110wccm.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From haverhill01835@comcast.net Wed Sep 12 19:18:46 2007 From: haverhill01835@comcast.net (haverhill01835@comcast.net) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:18:46 +0000 Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show Message-ID: <091220072318.29555.46E873D6000645620000737322068136130C050303@comcast.net> Speaking unofficially of course (since I'm no longer a paid staffer at WCCM) - Arnie started her program this past Monday morning on WCCM and starts the day streamed live until sunrise, then is on the air as soon as the law allows. Marc Lemay -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Sean Smyth > Laurence Glavin wrote: > > I happened to be at a local auto repair shop just over the state line > > in NH, and there was a copy > > of the Concord Monitor (why would a newspaper name itself after a > > lizard; ok the Sacramento > > Bee named itself after an insect and the Lawrence Eagle-Tribune us > > partially named after a > > scavenger) nearby. In it was a short item announcing the intention > > of WCCM-AM 1110 > > to start broadcasting a morning show from 6:00 am till 9:00 am hosted > > by Arnie Arnesen. > > Of course, unless WCCM acquires a pre-sunrise license, her show will > > come on at > > sunrise (WCCM apparently has a post-sunset authorization until sunset > > in Charlotte, NC.) > > The article did not mention the starting date, and for all I know, it > > could be on-the-air already. > > The Concord Monitor is available that far south? Didn't think it was. > > Anyway, appears from the Web site that her show is on already. And I'm > assuming her show would be streamed online beginning at 6 a.m., PSRA or > no. > > www.1110wccm.com > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > ____ > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. > http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Wed Sep 12 21:21:12 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show In-Reply-To: <091220072318.29555.46E873D6000645620000737322068136130C050303@comcast.net> Message-ID: <396047.1440.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> --- haverhill01835@comcast.net wrote: > ...and starts the day > streamed live until sunrise, then is on the air as > soon as the law allows. Is this a local program for WCCM? Or is it regionally syndicated (or hope to be?) Why does she start before the station is even on the air? Does she do it from home? Since she is a Granite Stater...will it be all about NH politics? WCCM claims to serve lawrence with it's talshows....even though it's signal at 1110AM covers mostly New Hampshire now.... ____________________________________________________________________________________ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Wed Sep 12 21:31:27 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show In-Reply-To: <396047.1440.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <292172.66633.qm@web58313.mail.re3.yahoo.com> "Donald A." wrote: > Why does she start before the station is even on the > air? Why not? People haven't climbed into their cars yet at 6 a.m., so they can still get the audience while they're home and listening over the net. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz From haverhill01835@comcast.net Wed Sep 12 21:50:25 2007 From: haverhill01835@comcast.net (haverhill01835@comcast.net) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:50:25 +0000 Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show Message-ID: <091320070150.13702.46E89761000194000000358622068150930C050303@comcast.net> It is a local program for WCCM...and if there is syndication in their future, the head end would be from WCCM's Methuen, MA studios. I don't know the ultimate goals of Costa Eagle, but syndication might be an interesting idea, and yes, she does it from home. The podcasts are live on the website from yesterday...usually a day behind. Considering 1110 is a NH radio station (licensed to Salem) with limited coverage into MA, it makes pretty good sense. Marc -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Donald A." > > --- haverhill01835@comcast.net wrote: > > > ...and starts the day > > streamed live until sunrise, then is on the air as > > soon as the law allows. > > Is this a local program for WCCM? Or is it regionally > syndicated (or hope to be?) > > Why does she start before the station is even on the > air? > > Does she do it from home? > > Since she is a Granite Stater...will it be all about > NH politics? > > WCCM claims to serve lawrence with it's > talshows....even though it's signal at 1110AM covers > mostly New Hampshire now.... > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > ____ > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on > Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 13 10:00:35 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:00:35 -0500 Subject: Is the Carr move happening? Gone from WCRN Message-ID: <20070913140035.4407B83BE3@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Entercom and Greater Media have been mum so far about the fate of Howie Carr but a telling sign could be what's on WCRN's webpage: the news that starting next Monday, Peter Blute expands to 4 hours (6-10 am) and Hank Stolz will do 2-6 pm. Howie's contract is set to expire on Sept 19...could that be his last show on "AM in the p.m." and the first show on "FM in the a.m." be soon to come? Not sure about what WCRN will air between Blute and Stolz's shows. They do have Laura Ingraham, tape delayed, from 1-3 pm now but could conceivably pick up the show live (it would be 10-noon) and find other stuff for noon-2. Also no idea what the other Howie affiliates will run if he's gone (WVMT, WNTK, WXTK, etc.) Maybe Jerry Doyle, if available. Or if a syndie deal could be worked out with Greater Media to run tape-delayed Howie... From radiotony@comcast.net Thu Sep 13 10:16:25 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:16:25 -0400 Subject: Is the Carr move happening? Gone from WCRN In-Reply-To: <20070913140035.4407B83BE3@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070913140035.4407B83BE3@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <005201c7f610$ac20d150$046273f0$@net> I will add that at 9:06 a.m. this morning I received a Talk Insiders email from WRKO which didn't mention Howie at all, just Finneran at Dem debate, Finneran at military salute, Sox playoffs, Finneran has Sox tix, a word from our sponsors, etc. Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:01 AM To: BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Is the Carr move happening? Gone from WCRN Entercom and Greater Media have been mum so far about the fate of Howie Carr but a telling sign could be what's on WCRN's webpage: the news that starting next Monday, Peter Blute expands to 4 hours (6-10 am) and Hank Stolz will do 2-6 pm. Howie's contract is set to expire on Sept 19...could that be his last show on "AM in the p.m." and the first show on "FM in the a.m." be soon to come? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Sep 13 10:27:46 2007 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:27:46 -0400 Subject: Is the Carr move happening? Gone from WCRN In-Reply-To: <005201c7f610$ac20d150$046273f0$@net> References: <20070913140035.4407B83BE3@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> <005201c7f610$ac20d150$046273f0$@net> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0709130727n6e0c1a38hfde1c26516c18480@mail.gmail.com> Interesting. I get the insiders emails as well as a similar setup from WTKK. Word to whomever is typing them over at Greater Media: the first name of our Governor is Deval, not Duval... On 9/13/07, radiotony wrote: > I will add that at 9:06 a.m. this morning I received a Talk Insiders email > from WRKO which didn't mention Howie at all, just Finneran at Dem debate, > Finneran at military salute, Sox playoffs, Finneran has Sox tix, a word from > our sponsors, etc. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Sep 13 10:56:56 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:56:56 -0400 Subject: Is the Carr move happening? Gone from WCRN References: <20070913140035.4407B83BE3@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000d01c7f616$57b26150$3dad4c0c@SatU205S5044> WCRN still has one hour of brokered time at midday currently. Can't remember whether it's 11:00AM to noon or noon to 1:00PM. And it may be a tradeout, notwithstanding that it's brokered time. The program is sponsored by Drew Mortgage--a mortgage company that, it seems, has not yet gone belly up. The program is hosted by a guy who I think is the president of the mortgage company. It has to be a STRONG contender for the WORST hour of radio on radio anywhere! The guy has a gravelly voice, speaks WAY too fast, swallows his words, and is continually misspeaking himself. The program must completely drive away everyone listening before it starts. Anyone who listens to the full hour and can demonstrate that he/she is still sane after an hour of that drivel, certainly deserves some kind of award (a hero medal, maybe). ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:00 AM Subject: Is the Carr move happening? Gone from WCRN Not sure about what WCRN will air between Blute and Stolz's shows. They do have Laura Ingraham, tape delayed, from 1-3 pm now but could conceivably pick up the show live (it would be 10-noon) and find other stuff for noon-2. From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 13 11:02:59 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:02:59 -0500 Subject: Is the Carr move happening? Gone from WCRN Message-ID: <20070913150300.81C421F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> The brokered show ("We're Drew. That's what we do" is their ad slogan) is noon-1, followed by Laura 1-3 pm acc. to their site. We'll see if it survives (if it brings in money for the station as brokered time maybe they'd expand it to two hours? yikes!...One never knows.) The Drew site mentions a station in Florida cancels it, too, plus they offer podcasts of the shows. Not sure how high the demand is for those. -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 13 11:04:41 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:04:41 -0500 Subject: Is the Carr move happening? Gone from WCRN Message-ID: <20070913150441.93E03164283@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >>Florida cancels it, too, that should say CARRIES it too... -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From hykker@wildblue.net Thu Sep 13 11:27:08 2007 From: hykker@wildblue.net (Steve Ordinetz) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:27:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Is the Carr move happening? Gone from WCRN In-Reply-To: <000d01c7f616$57b26150$3dad4c0c@SatU205S5044> References: <20070913140035.4407B83BE3@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> <000d01c7f616$57b26150$3dad4c0c@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <16294.63.118.166.2.1189697228.squirrel@webmail.wildblue.net> Dan.Strassberg wrote... > The program is hosted by a guy who I think is the > president of the mortgage company. It has to be a STRONG contender for > the WORST hour of radio on radio anywhere! The guy has a gravelly > voice, speaks WAY too fast, swallows his words, and is continually > misspeaking himself. The program must completely drive away everyone > listening before it starts. Anyone who listens to the full hour and > can demonstrate that he/she is still sane after an hour of that > drivel, certainly deserves some kind of award (a hero medal, maybe). > There are many contenders for that "honor". Dunno if it's still on, but a northern New England station (which will remain anonymous) used to have a local pharmacist do a 1 hr weekly health-oriented show. It sounded like he would just read verbatim from an old college term paper on some fascinating topic like irritable bowel syndrome or the prevention and treatment of gout. Truly painful to listen to. There are reasons that small-market stations don't carry more local programming! From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Sep 13 12:27:31 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:27:31 -0400 Subject: Is the Carr move happening? Gone from WCRN In-Reply-To: <16294.63.118.166.2.1189697228.squirrel@webmail.wildblue.net> References: <20070913140035.4407B83BE3@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> <000d01c7f616$57b26150$3dad4c0c@SatU205S5044> <16294.63.118.166.2.1189697228.squirrel@webmail.wildblue.net> Message-ID: <4fc429770709130927i4afa8392j7a8d14f419e88c7f@mail.gmail.com> I wonder if Entercom would put Todd Feinburg in Howie's slot given that he is already syndicated on weekends? From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 13 14:32:02 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:32:02 -0500 Subject: Is the Carr move happening? Gone from WCRN Message-ID: <20070913183203.0803583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> >>I wonder if Entercom would put Todd Feinburg in Howie's slot given that he is already syndicated on weekends? That could be a short term solution, at least; they could give the 10 am slot to a local host or go syndie (Glenn Beck, perhaps?) From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Thu Sep 13 15:14:02 2007 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:14:02 +0000 Subject: Wow! WESX Really Gets Out!!! P=) Message-ID: <46E98BFA.1040503@Gmail.com> From the SpaceWeather Man (Jan Alvestad) at http://www.dxlc.com/solar over in Norway, > Monitoring remarks from a location near N58E06: September 11: > Propagation was best to the northeastern USA and to Cuba. In > particular New Hampshire was favored with occasionally excellent > signals from 1250 WKBR, 1270 WTSN and 1290 WKBK. 1230 kHz had WESX > and WCMC as the dominant signals. He frequently notes 1.510-WWZN, but itty-bitty local 1.230-WESX?!?!! ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From lglavin@mail.com Thu Sep 13 14:23:24 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:23:24 -0500 Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show Message-ID: <20070913182324.44F341F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sean Smyth" >To: "Donald A." >Subject: Re: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show >Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:31:27 -0700 (PDT) >Why not? People haven't climbed into their cars yet at 6 a.m., so they >can still get the audience while they're home and listening over the net. Have you been on the road at 6:00 am these days? Many commuters either try to beat the traffic or they start earlier than the old 9-to-5 model. That's why AM radio can be behind the 8-ball: you have fulltimers with nighttime patterns until sunrise (which will be an even greater problem with a later Standard Time start) and then daytimers with puny pre-sunrise authorizations or none at all. -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From lglavin@mail.com Thu Sep 13 14:34:29 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:34:29 -0500 Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show Message-ID: <20070913183429.AF5461F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: haverhill01835@comcast.net >To: "Laurence Glavin" >Subject: Re: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show >Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:18:46 +0000 >Speaking unofficially of course (since I'm no longer a paid staffer >at WCCM) - Arnie started her program this past Monday morning on >WCCM and starts the day streamed live until sunrise, then is on the >air as soon as the law allows. >Marc Lemay I heard part of the program this morning, and it was soon obvious she was originating the program from home because after a break, there was a delay getting her back on. After the USA Network news including an Andy Willoughby "How in the world are you anyway?" commercial (hate those!) there was news from Metro Traffic covering Massachusetts and New England items, but nothing local to Lawrence/Methuen and Southern NH. -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Sep 13 16:30:54 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:30:54 -0400 Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show In-Reply-To: <396047.1440.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <091220072318.29555.46E873D6000645620000737322068136130C050303@comcast.net> <396047.1440.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070913203115.8278844ED01@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> >it was asked-- >Is this a local program for WCCM? Or is it regionally >syndicated (or hope to be?) I go back years with Arnie, and she's tried to get a syndicated talk show on the air many times, but thus far, with no success. Most recently, she was on a talk station in Concord NH, if I recall correctly. And by the way, if I haven't mentioned it already, a happy and peaceful New Year to Jewish list-members, and Ramadan Mubarak to Muslim list-members-- the holidays come at the same time this year... From radiotony@comcast.net Thu Sep 13 16:37:04 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:37:04 -0400 Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show In-Reply-To: <20070913203115.8278844ED01@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <091220072318.29555.46E873D6000645620000737322068136130C050303@comcast.net> <396047.1440.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <20070913203115.8278844ED01@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <00e801c7f645$d8cb58d0$8a620a70$@net> Arnie was on WTPL in Concord and WNTK in New London in a syndication/simulcast, with shared expenses between the two stations. Then, citing complaints from advertisers [specifically from car dealers who were ticked off that Arnie called SUVs FUVs] WTPL decided they didn't want to renew her contract. WTNK dropped her not long after that and picked up Gardner Goldsmith. After a year, Gardner was also gone. Enjoy the holidays, Donna and everyone else! Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:31 PM To: Donald A.; haverhill01835@comcast.net; Laurence Glavin Cc: BRI Subject: Re: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show >it was asked-- >Is this a local program for WCCM? Or is it regionally >syndicated (or hope to be?) I go back years with Arnie, and she's tried to get a syndicated talk show on the air many times, but thus far, with no success. Most recently, she was on a talk station in Concord NH, if I recall correctly. And by the way, if I haven't mentioned it already, a happy and peaceful New Year to Jewish list-members, and Ramadan Mubarak to Muslim list-members-- the holidays come at the same time this year... From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Sep 13 16:52:00 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:52:00 -0400 Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show In-Reply-To: <00e801c7f645$d8cb58d0$8a620a70$@net> References: <091220072318.29555.46E873D6000645620000737322068136130C050303@comcast.net> <396047.1440.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <20070913203115.8278844ED01@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> <00e801c7f645$d8cb58d0$8a620a70$@net> Message-ID: <20070913205220.A905D44C94C@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Tony wrote-- >Then, citing complaints from advertisers [specifically from car dealers who >were ticked off that Arnie called SUVs FUVs] WTPL decided they didn't want >to renew her contract. >WTNK dropped her not long after that and picked up Gardner Goldsmith. After >a year, Gardner was also gone. That's odd. Based on the times I heard him, Gardner sounded like a rightie, and advertisers in the more conservative markets normally like righties... Hey Tony, are you employed these days? Lately, I haven't kept up with what's been happening in Concord-area radio.... From MauOB@aol.com Thu Sep 13 16:53:36 2007 From: MauOB@aol.com (MauOB@aol.com) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:53:36 EDT Subject: Is the Carr move happening? Gone from WCRN Message-ID: In a message dated 9/13/2007 10:28:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, raccoonradio@gmail.com writes: On 9/13/07, radiotony wrote: > I will add that at 9:06 a.m. this morning I received a Talk Insiders email > from WRKO which didn't mention Howie at all, just Finneran at Dem debate, > Finneran at military salute, Sox playoffs, Finneran has Sox tix, a word from > our sponsors, etc. My WRKO talk insider has Howie's pix and a link to his daily poll on the right hand side. Maybe you missed it. Maureen ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From radiotony@comcast.net Thu Sep 13 16:59:22 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:59:22 -0400 Subject: Is the Carr move happening? Gone from WCRN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00fe01c7f648$f65c70c0$e3155240$@net> Actually, I stand corrected. There is a tiny picture of Howie, smirking, in the sidebar. Nice catch Maureen! Best, Tony Schinella From: MauOB@aol.com [mailto:MauOB@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:54 PM To: raccoonradio@gmail.com; radiotony@comcast.net Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Is the Carr move happening? Gone from WCRN In a message dated 9/13/2007 10:28:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, raccoonradio@gmail.com writes: On 9/13/07, radiotony wrote: > I will add that at 9:06 a.m. this morning I received a Talk Insiders email > from WRKO which didn't mention Howie at all, just Finneran at Dem debate, > Finneran at military salute, Sox playoffs, Finneran has Sox tix, a word from > our sponsors, etc. My WRKO talk insider has Howie's pix and a link to his daily poll on the right hand side. Maybe you missed it. Maureen _____ See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. From radiotony@comcast.net Thu Sep 13 17:09:36 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:09:36 -0400 Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show In-Reply-To: <20070913205220.A905D44C94C@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <091220072318.29555.46E873D6000645620000737322068136130C050303@comcast.net> <396047.1440.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <20070913203115.8278844ED01@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> <00e801c7f645$d8cb58d0$8a620a70$@net> <20070913205220.A905D44C94C@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <010301c7f64a$644980e0$2cdc82a0$@net> Actually, I am gainfully employed, back at CNC, editing the Belmont newspaper. That's the great thing about dual formats. I have the ability to move around to where the work is. :-) I've been meaning to touch base with you so we could do lunch but I've been swamped. Disclaimer: Tony's opinions are his own and not those of his employer. We were recently handed some new rules about emails and posting on Internet chat boards. I'm still hashing through them but it has been suggested that I put disclaimers on my PERSONAL email account as well as every post I make on every posting board!! Sigh. Gardner was a righty. I don't know what happened but I have heard rumors that he was never able to bring the advertisers he said he was going to bring. I wrote a bit about what went down here: http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,68676.msg493287.html#msg493287 Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: Donna Halper [mailto:dlh@donnahalper.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:52 PM To: radiotony; 'BRI' Subject: RE: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show Tony wrote-- >Then, citing complaints from advertisers [specifically from car dealers who >were ticked off that Arnie called SUVs FUVs] WTPL decided they didn't want >to renew her contract. >WTNK dropped her not long after that and picked up Gardner Goldsmith. After >a year, Gardner was also gone. That's odd. Based on the times I heard him, Gardner sounded like a rightie, and advertisers in the more conservative markets normally like righties... Hey Tony, are you employed these days? Lately, I haven't kept up with what's been happening in Concord-area radio.... From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Sep 13 17:41:05 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:41:05 -0400 Subject: largest city with no AM transmitter? Message-ID: <4fc429770709131441p78c3e40dif0db52772d17ce55@mail.gmail.com> Is Boston the largest city in the US that does not have a full time AM transmitter within the city limits? BZ has the Allston backup but that is it. From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Sep 13 17:51:36 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:51:36 -0400 Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show In-Reply-To: <00e801c7f645$d8cb58d0$8a620a70$@net> References: <20070913203115.8278844ED01@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> <00e801c7f645$d8cb58d0$8a620a70$@net> Message-ID: <000401c7f650$616e3ea0$c7151bac@MasterExtra> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of radiotony > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:37 PM > To: 'BRI' > Subject: RE: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show > > Arnie was on WTPL in Concord and WNTK in New London in a > syndication/simulcast, with shared expenses between the two stations. > Then, citing complaints from advertisers [specifically from > car dealers who were ticked off that Arnie called SUVs FUVs] > WTPL decided they didn't want to renew her contract. > WTNK dropped her not long after that and picked up Gardner > Goldsmith. After a year, Gardner was also gone. > Arnie currently does a Sunday morning talk show "Political Soup" (I think that's the name) on Channel 50. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From paul@derrynh.net Thu Sep 13 18:40:51 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:40:51 -0400 Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show In-Reply-To: <20070913205220.A905D44C94C@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <001201c7f657$24380ff0$62c23e18@YOURF7ED5FB036> FYI: Gardner Goldsmith is at WTPL 1-4PM (Started about 3 weeks ago) Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:52 PM To: radiotony; 'BRI' Subject: RE: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show Tony wrote-- >Then, citing complaints from advertisers [specifically from car dealers who >were ticked off that Arnie called SUVs FUVs] WTPL decided they didn't want >to renew her contract. >WTNK dropped her not long after that and picked up Gardner Goldsmith. After >a year, Gardner was also gone. That's odd. Based on the times I heard him, Gardner sounded like a rightie, and advertisers in the more conservative markets normally like righties... Hey Tony, are you employed these days? Lately, I haven't kept up with what's been happening in Concord-area radio.... From paul@derrynh.net Thu Sep 13 18:43:17 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:43:17 -0400 Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show In-Reply-To: <010301c7f64a$644980e0$2cdc82a0$@net> Message-ID: <001301c7f657$7a9bb180$62c23e18@YOURF7ED5FB036> Tony, he's at WTPL 107.7, started there about 3 weeks ago (1-4PM)....Was Dan Patrick/ESPN, but since his leaving, I guess the ownership decided to not have any daytime sports anymore. -Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of radiotony Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:10 PM To: 'BRI' Subject: RE: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show Actually, I am gainfully employed, back at CNC, editing the Belmont newspaper. That's the great thing about dual formats. I have the ability to move around to where the work is. :-) I've been meaning to touch base with you so we could do lunch but I've been swamped. Disclaimer: Tony's opinions are his own and not those of his employer. We were recently handed some new rules about emails and posting on Internet chat boards. I'm still hashing through them but it has been suggested that I put disclaimers on my PERSONAL email account as well as every post I make on every posting board!! Sigh. Gardner was a righty. I don't know what happened but I have heard rumors that he was never able to bring the advertisers he said he was going to bring. I wrote a bit about what went down here: http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,68676.msg493287.html#msg493287 Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: Donna Halper [mailto:dlh@donnahalper.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:52 PM To: radiotony; 'BRI' Subject: RE: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show Tony wrote-- >Then, citing complaints from advertisers [specifically from car dealers who >were ticked off that Arnie called SUVs FUVs] WTPL decided they didn't want >to renew her contract. >WTNK dropped her not long after that and picked up Gardner Goldsmith. After >a year, Gardner was also gone. That's odd. Based on the times I heard him, Gardner sounded like a rightie, and advertisers in the more conservative markets normally like righties... Hey Tony, are you employed these days? Lately, I haven't kept up with what's been happening in Concord-area radio.... From paul@derrynh.net Thu Sep 13 18:44:30 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:44:30 -0400 Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show In-Reply-To: <000401c7f650$616e3ea0$c7151bac@MasterExtra> Message-ID: <001401c7f657$a6179720$62c23e18@YOURF7ED5FB036> She also distributes it around the state to local access cable stations (Derry's carries the show, taped at Londonderry LAC studious) -Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Weil Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:52 PM To: 'BRI' Subject: RE: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of radiotony > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:37 PM > To: 'BRI' > Subject: RE: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show > > Arnie was on WTPL in Concord and WNTK in New London in a > syndication/simulcast, with shared expenses between the two stations. > Then, citing complaints from advertisers [specifically from > car dealers who were ticked off that Arnie called SUVs FUVs] > WTPL decided they didn't want to renew her contract. > WTNK dropped her not long after that and picked up Gardner > Goldsmith. After a year, Gardner was also gone. > Arnie currently does a Sunday morning talk show "Political Soup" (I think that's the name) on Channel 50. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Sep 13 19:26:40 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:26:40 -0400 Subject: largest city with no AM transmitter? References: <4fc429770709131441p78c3e40dif0db52772d17ce55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002f01c7f65d$94f9f8b0$d2a34c0c@SatU205S5044> Is there any AM transmitter within the city limits of Detroit? If there is, it must be WDTK 1400. I know that there are AM sticks in New York (WFAN/WCBS, WQEW), Chicago (WSBC. WNTD-D), Los Angeles (KYPA, at least), Philadelphia (WHAT, others?), San Francisco (KSFO, KOIT, KEST). OTOH, Detroit is the complex-array capital of North America (with Toronto a close second) and it's REALLY tough to find land for eight-, nine-, and ten-tower arrays in major cities. Also, unless complex arrays are located near the city line and send signal maxima across the city, they may still fail to cover the requisite 80% of the population at night and, even if they do, they may, because of the broad, deep minima, miss close-in suburbs on the side of town _closest_ to the transmitter. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Boston Radio Interest" ; "Dan. Strassberg" Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:41 PM Subject: largest city with no AM transmitter? > Is Boston the largest city in the US that does not have a full time > AM > transmitter within the city limits? BZ has the Allston backup but > that > is it. From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu Sep 13 19:35:24 2007 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:35:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: largest city with no AM transmitter? Message-ID: <18608339.1189726524322.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > From: "Kevin Vahey" > To: "Boston Radio Interest" > , > "Dan. Strassberg" > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:41:05 -0400 > Subject: largest city with no AM transmitter? > > Is Boston the largest city in the US that does not > have a full time AM transmitter within the city > limits? BZ has the Allston backup but that is it. 1650 - The Logan Airport TIC in East Boston Also, various pirates on various frequencies, though they may not be on the air full time. EP From radiotony@comcast.net Thu Sep 13 21:57:43 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:57:43 -0400 Subject: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show In-Reply-To: <001201c7f657$24380ff0$62c23e18@YOURF7ED5FB036> References: <20070913205220.A905D44C94C@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001201c7f657$24380ff0$62c23e18@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: <002801c7f672$a4747a30$ed5d6e90$@net> Wow, you're right. I don't listen to the station so I wouldn't have known that. I'm surprised that there wasn't a bigger push to let anyone know about it. Usually, there is something on the boards or at least a press release in the Monitor. Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hopfgarten [mailto:paul@derrynh.net] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:41 PM To: 'Donna Halper'; 'radiotony'; 'BRI' Subject: RE: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show FYI: Gardner Goldsmith is at WTPL 1-4PM (Started about 3 weeks ago) Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:52 PM To: radiotony; 'BRI' Subject: RE: WCCM-AM 1110 To Add Local Morning Show Tony wrote-- >Then, citing complaints from advertisers [specifically from car dealers who >were ticked off that Arnie called SUVs FUVs] WTPL decided they didn't want >to renew her contract. >WTNK dropped her not long after that and picked up Gardner Goldsmith. After >a year, Gardner was also gone. That's odd. Based on the times I heard him, Gardner sounded like a rightie, and advertisers in the more conservative markets normally like righties... Hey Tony, are you employed these days? Lately, I haven't kept up with what's been happening in Concord-area radio.... From markwa1ion@aol.com Thu Sep 13 22:21:41 2007 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:21:41 -0400 Subject: Wow! WESX Really Gets Out!!! P=) Message-ID: <8C9C48D1F5103F0-52C-3512@FWM-D12.sysops.aol.com> Being on the ocean gives WESX a big boost. Its Radio Locator coverage map at shows this effect: quite dramatic for a "non-directional" station. WCMC in Wildwood, NJ has a similarly advantageous shore location. In Chatham on the Cape, it's a dogfight on 1230 between these two during the day. Tests I have run (with a special mobile set-up including a Drake R8A receiver) indicate that "coming the other way" European and North African AM stations are about 20 dB stronger at seaside sites such as Granite Pier in Rockport and Powder Point in Duxbury than here at home in Billerica near the Burlington line, about 15 miles inland from Salem, Lynn, etc. If you're curious about what gets across from the Old World to this side of the pond, check for a sampling. Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA << From the SpaceWeather Man (Jan Alvestad) at http://www.dxlc.com/solar over in Norway, > Monitoring remarks from a location near N58E06: September 11: > Propagation was best to the northeastern USA and to Cuba. In > particular New Hampshire was favored with occasionally excellent > signals from 1250 WKBR, 1270 WTSN and 1290 WKBK. 1230 kHz had WESX > and WCMC as the dominant signals. He frequently notes 1.510-WWZN, but itty-bitty local 1.230-WESX?!?!! ~Kaimbridge~ >> ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Sep 14 10:10:14 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:10:14 -0500 Subject: Carr may start 9/20 on WTKK but WRKO tries to block Message-ID: <20070914141014.E457F83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1031413 Howie Carr intends to start his WTKK job next Thursday, the day after his WRKO contract expires, but WRKO is attempting to block it. The article says Howie has attended at least one staff meeting at the Greater Media station, and they have built an office for him. So far no mention on WTKK webpage (which still lists Barnicle and has his picture on the top.) From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 14 16:48:28 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:48:28 -0400 Subject: largest city with no AM transmitter? In-Reply-To: <002f01c7f65d$94f9f8b0$d2a34c0c@SatU205S5044> References: <4fc429770709131441p78c3e40dif0db52772d17ce55@mail.gmail.com> <002f01c7f65d$94f9f8b0$d2a34c0c@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4fc429770709141348g45e8e528q12fcab8c9da7d3e5@mail.gmail.com> I have always wondered why Detroit has the directional signals they do WXYT ( the former WXYZ ) should have had a better signal than it was given On 9/13/07, Dan.Strassberg wrote: Detroit is the complex-array capital of North America > (with Toronto a close second) and it's REALLY tough to find land for > eight-, nine-, and ten-tower arrays in major cities. From lglavin@mail.com Fri Sep 14 17:07:19 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:07:19 -0500 Subject: Slight Change To WBZ Station ID Message-ID: <20070914210719.911F81F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> I just noticed a slight change to WBZ-AM's station ID. Just before they gave the legally-required "WBZ, Boston", this afternoon they preceded that with "this is WBZ and WBZ-HD". I guess that means that when the sun goes down tonight, their IBOC hash will be heard all over the northeast. -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Sep 14 18:36:19 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:36:19 -0400 Subject: Web Pages (was:Re: Carr may start 9/20 on WTKK but WRKO tries to block) In-Reply-To: <20070914141014.E457F83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070914141014.E457F83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: At 9:10 AM -0500 9/14/07, Bob Nelson wrote: > So far no mention on WTKK webpage (which still lists Barnicle and >has his picture on the >top.) I've noticed on many occasions that TV and radio station web pages tend to lag months behind reality. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Sep 14 18:39:37 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:39:37 -0400 Subject: largest city with no AM transmitter? References: <4fc429770709131441p78c3e40dif0db52772d17ce55@mail.gmail.com> <002f01c7f65d$94f9f8b0$d2a34c0c@SatU205S5044> <4fc429770709141348g45e8e528q12fcab8c9da7d3e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001501c7f720$28d6d310$1aa44c0c@SatU205S5044> The answer lies in geography--and history. On the East and West coasts, most of what used to be Class II and III AMs (now Class Bs) directionalize out over the oceans (or in the Gulf coast states, over the Carribean). For older stations, this meant that relatively simple arrays (usually three--or even two--towers) would do the trick. In the northern Midwest, older stations would directionalize to the north because Canada didn't have many stations and the use of the channels was first-come first-serve. But as the AM band became more and more crowded, the protections became more and more difficult to achieve, so as time went by, stations that wanted to upgrade their signals were allowed to deliver their strongest signals over narrower and narrower arcs. 1130 is the most-often-cited example of how complex arrays allowed shoehorning of relatively high-powered stations onto a channel's remaining "open space." Like many of the former IB channels, 1130 is home to two US Class A stations; one in New York City and one in Shreveport LA. However, unlike 710, with Class As in New York and Seattle, 1080 (Hartford and Dallas), 1110 (Charlotte and Omaha), 1170 (Wheeling WV and Tulsa), 1500 (Washington DC and St Paul MN), 1510 (Nashville and Spokane), 1530 (Cincinnati and Sacramento), and 1560 (New York City and Bakersfield CA), the Class As on 1130 have patterns that don't exactly face away from each other. The reason for this situation is that there is a third legacy Class A on 1130 in North America, CKWX, Vancouver BC. KWKH must protect both WBBR and CKWX, so its pattern is aimed pretty much to the south, whereas WBBR aims more-or-less east and CKWX aims northwest. Each of these three stations thereby protects the other two at night, leaving an open space in the midwest that is filled by three stations (in Detroit, Milwaukee, and Minneapolis), each with a nine-tower array and night power of 10 kW or more. The very similar, very narrow, nine-tower patterns are tear-drops (also called flashlight or searchlight patterns) aimed to the north or northeast to protect WBBR, KWKH, and CKWX. WXYT, which you mentioned, is a very old station that ran 5 kW-U DA-N until a few years ago. The night pattern was a two-tower modified cardioid aimed east. My understanding is that WXYT's management decided that WXYT HAD to increase to 50 kW to compete for sports play-by-play rights because the Detroit area already had several 50 kW AMs and the teams had decided that they were in a position to insist that any AM that wanted to carry their broadcasts had to run 50 kW-U. CBS, which I believe owns or owned WXYT, got what it wanted: 50 kW-U, using a very unconventional nine-tower array of modern design. The problem is that, for the most part, WXYT's signal is worse now than it was with 5 kW. First of all, the old 5-kW facility used tall, and hence highly efficient towers. Because of the narrow patterns required to meet FCC protection requirements, the signal improvement occured only over a narrow arc to the north--and even there, I've been told, WXYT's signal suffers from severe phasing (fading) because of the strong high-angle skywave that results from using very short towers--a zoning requirement imposed by the community in which the array is located. So WXYT got 50 kW and got at least the Tigers play-by-play, but after spending millions on land and equipment, it now has a poorer signal--pretty much everywhere--than it did for all those years as a 5 kW station. This story shows how stupid team management, with cooperation from arguably stupid station management, created a situation in which nearly everybody lost--although WXYT does derive big profits from those sports broadcasts. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Re: largest city with no AM transmitter? >I have always wondered why Detroit has the directional signals they >do > WXYT ( the former WXYZ ) should have had a better signal than it > was > given > > > > On 9/13/07, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Detroit is the complex-array capital of North America >> (with Toronto a close second) and it's REALLY tough to find land >> for >> eight-, nine-, and ten-tower arrays in major cities. From lglavin@mail.com Sat Sep 15 12:52:03 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:52:03 -0500 Subject: WBZ-AM Did NOT Run IBOC Last Night; Two That Did Message-ID: <20070915165203.4C6C2102EC@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> It appears that WBZ-AM chose not to keep its HD running after sunset last night (Friday), but in scanning the AM dial to determine what stations did, I only came up with two neighbors-on-the-dial using simiar calls: WTAM 1100 in Cleveland and WHAM 1180 in Rochester, NY. Most nights, WBAL-1090 in Baltimore, WTAM and WBT-1110 in Charlotte have seemingly equally strong signals, but from time to time each fades out for a while. Whenever WBAL and/or WBT got weak, and WTAM remained powerful, there was weak but noticeable hash over the former. Up the dial, the same is true of WWVA-1170 and WHAM. Again, if WWVA faded out, there was some hash over it if WHAM remained strong ("the Yankees win...thah-ah-ah-ah YANKEES WIN!) but I didn't notice anything on 1190. (When 1190 was Air America, I would listen to it at night and pre-sunrise but last night, for the most part there was no overriding signal on 1190.) In any event, so far it appears that IBOC hash from skywave is less of a problem that IBOC hash from ground wave. Needless to say, I have no way of knowing whether WXKS-AM or WMKI ran HD at night...you'd have to live pretty close to those stations' towers to notice. -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Sep 15 14:17:09 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:17:09 -0400 Subject: Interesting Boston tidbits..... Message-ID: <010e01c7f7c4$ae4a3ce0$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> http://northeastairchecks.com/checks/neactt3.ram Some interesting tidbits tarting about 8:15... 1.) Bill Marlowe does the WBZ/WBZA Boston/Springfield station ID... 2.) The typically staid Talkradio 590 WEEI....gets a crank caller. "Timmy O'Sullivan from South Boston".) 3.) Carl Desuze recreates a WBZ station ID "from the Hotel Bradford". (with Norm Nathan) 4.) WCOP ID and Aircheck. ("Coply Plaza Hotel Boston") From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Sep 17 08:54:18 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 07:54:18 -0500 Subject: Arnesen back on in NH Message-ID: <20070917125418.B115083985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> She ran for governor (and you can still see some Arnie! bumper stickers on older cars), did a radio show that got pulled because she was "too provocative" (she referred to SUVs as "FU-Vs", which didn't quite please auto dealers) and has been featured on WZMY-TV Ch 50 in Derry NH. Now Deborah "Arnie" Arnesen is back on radio, with "(Political) Chowder in the Morning" on WCCM 1110 in Salem, NH (daytimer). Arnesen, on the left side of the political spectrum, is also doing a show on Ch 50 again (on in many cable households in NH, MA, and possibly ME too) Sunday mornings at 11 am. btw New Hampshire is the one New England state that never got an Air America/prog talk station. As of now I believe the only ones left are the 3 stations in the Springfield area, and WKVT in Burlington VT. It was dumped in Burlington VT (though Stephanie Miller is back as part of "women's talk"), Portland ME, Boston area, Providence, and New Haven. From madprof@ix.netcom.com Mon Sep 17 14:23:56 2007 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:56 -0400 Subject: FCC - cable dual visability Message-ID: <380-22007911718235615@ix.netcom.com> IMHO, this is the 1st reasonable act FCC has done since HD started emerging "addition to carrying the broadcaster's digital signals, cable operators must convert those signals to analog for viewers with older receivers." http://broadcastengineering.com/news/fcc-cable-provide-dual-view/?r=1 Bob Sutherlan From madprof@ix.netcom.com Mon Sep 17 18:21:18 2007 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:21:18 -0400 Subject: ReRe: FCC - cable dual visability Message-ID: <380-220079117222118531@ix.netcom.com> Ken - In all reality, we are not in disagreement. My post included the phrase "this is the 1st reasonable act FCC has done since HD started emerging" .... meaning in reducing the burden on the public.... yes, I failed to say anything of over-the-air. Part of my between-the-lines point (sarcasm if you will) is the lack of the FCC to consider that HD, with the death of analog, is honestly aimed at people who can afford new HD tv's, not the general popluation. I totally feel the FCC should be allowing air signals to be receivable by folks with existing TV's; I am especially sensitive to a situation like New Lebanon NY, where very few air signals are viewable presently, (Albany's WRGB 6 the primary, also 10 & 13), and HD signal strength will necessarily be reduced from analog. I feel the FCC & big-business / HD tv manufacturers are in collaboration in ripping off / forcing the public to spend for new HD sets. Yes, I can see that HD is a scientific / technological improvement, but illogical to force it on the total population. I for one, retired, will have to resort to a convertor simply to still have reception, air or cable. My post included the phrase "this is the 1st reasonable act FCC has done since HD started emerging" .... meaning in reducing the burden on the public.... yes, I failed to say anything of over-the-air. Part of my between-the-lines point (sarcasm if you will) is the lack of the FCC to consider that HD, with the death of analog, is honestly aimed at people who can afford new HD tv's, not the general popluation. And yes, I agree that cable companies, to use bandwidth to duplicate signals converted to analog, is a waste of bandwidth, but perhaps such a move does not increase cost to those who really have no spare cash to buy a convertor? Scott, If I am ranting too much, please say so. Any other opinions are welcome, but so much has been hashed over already [including the obvious AM IBOC hash]. Bob Sutherland > [Original Message] > From: Ken VanTassell > To: > Cc: B-R-I > Date: 9/17/2007 5:32:30 PM > Subject: Re: FCC - cable dual visability > > > I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. If you get > your tv over the air, after Feb. 2009 you will get nothing on your > set. Why should only cable operators be forced to continue analog ? > -Ken From scott@fybush.com Mon Sep 17 19:05:31 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:05:31 -0400 Subject: ReRe: FCC - cable dual visability In-Reply-To: <380-220079117222118531@ix.netcom.com> References: <380-220079117222118531@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <46EF083B.1020702@fybush.com> Robert F. Sutherland wrote: > Scott, If I am ranting too much, please say so. > Any other opinions are welcome, but so much has been hashed > over already [including the obvious AM IBOC hash]. It's not up to me to say if you're ranting too much - that would be Garrett's job, and I don't think there's anything in your post that violates the rules of the list. That said, I do disagree with you on a few points... The real motivation behind the DTV conversion has very little to do with providing improved pictures to viewers or selling more new TV sets. It's really all about spectrum management, and about cleaning up a terribly inefficient use of UHF spectrum that's become increasingly valuable as consumers demand improved cellular telephone and wireless data service. The same 700 MHz spectrum (channels 52-69) that was considered almost useless when analog TV was introduced there 55 years ago is now worth billions of dollars to companies like Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile, Sprint and Qualcomm. Those companies have filled up the spectrum higher up the dial that's allotted to them, and they're desperate for more. In order to get channels 52-69 cleared of television service, the whole TV dial essentially had to be "repacked" more efficiently, and the only way to do that without making stations go off the air was to take everyone digital. (Improved pictures for consumers are really only a side effect of the transition.) If the transition goes as planned, most of Robert's concerns should prove to be unfounded. Next January or February, viewers who use over-the-air analog TV will be able to get $40 coupons that should cover most of the cost of the inexpensive ($50-60) converter boxes that will hit the market when the coupons come out. That leaves the net cost for the box at $10 or $20 per set, which is really a pittance. (Who pays for those coupons? That's the payoff to the public from the auction of the 700 MHz spectrum that's being cleared by analog TV.) Meanwhile, the TV stations have been building out full-power DTV facilities. There's every reason to expect that Albany stations that are viewable in analog in a place like New Lebanon will still be viewable in digital - and with a much cleaner picture, to boot. (No need to move antennas around, either, as all the market's signals will be coming from a single shared tall tower in the Helderbergs.) And in the midst of all this, the flood of dirt-cheap LCD HDTV sets coming out of Asia continues, with all of them (since March) now mandated to include DTV tuners. Nobody's being forced to buy them, but they're flying out of the stores anyway, which should significantly ease the burden of providing converter boxes. In retrospect, it probably would have made sense to require DTV tuners in all TV sets a year or two sooner; there was a flood of LCD sets sold in late 2005-early 2007 that didn't include DTV tuners and should have. If you haven't looked at the TV department of your local Wal-Mart or Target in the last year or two, you really should. There is no longer any gap between "people who can afford new HDTVs" and "the general population," not when you can pick up a 17" HD set (with a DVD player built in, even) for $220 or so, as I did recently. Even a drop-dead phenomenal wall-size flat panel (we're talking 42"-46" screen) HDTV can be had for $1200 or less. Adjusting for inflation, that's far less than a state-of-the-art 25" color set would have cost in the early seventies. Here's the bigger picture: in our era of what is essentially software-based technology, it's both unrealistic and inefficient to expect any transmission technology to last unchanged for five or six decades, as analog TV did. Think about how often we replace things like cell phones these days, and how much more a cell phone handset does now than it did (or could have been expected to do) even five years ago. I think the FCC's done (and is doing) a pretty good job of moving this particular transition along, and it's probably making the right move by continuing the analog mandate for cable systems, inasmuch as they now serve something north of 65% of all the TV sets in the country. Pushing the "drop-dead" date for the conversion off by a few years seems to me like a pretty reasonable compromise. s From hykker@wildblue.net Mon Sep 17 20:38:47 2007 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:38:47 -0400 Subject: ReRe: FCC - cable dual visability In-Reply-To: <46EF083B.1020702@fybush.com> References: <380-220079117222118531@ix.netcom.com> <46EF083B.1020702@fybush.com> Message-ID: <20070918003847.56B9A413F9D@mail2.wildblue.net> Scott Fybush wrote: >If the transition goes as planned, most of Robert's concerns should >prove to be unfounded. Next January or February, viewers who use >over-the-air analog TV will be able to get $40 coupons that should >cover most of the cost of the inexpensive ($50-60) converter boxes >that will hit the market when the coupons come out. That leaves the >net cost for the box at $10 or $20 per set, which is really a >pittance. (Who pays for those coupons? That's the payoff to the >public from the auction of the 700 MHz spectrum that's being cleared >by analog TV.) > >Meanwhile, the TV stations have been building out full-power DTV >facilities. There's every reason to expect that Albany stations that >are viewable in analog in a place like New Lebanon will still be >viewable in digital - and with a much cleaner picture, to boot. (No >need to move antennas around, either, as all the market's signals >will be coming from a single shared tall tower in the Helderbergs.) I, for one am skeptical. Unlike analog, where fringe-are reception is possible if you don't mind a slightly snowy picture digital is either perfect or non-existent. Those of us like myself who live where there are only a couple so-so signals (and no cable) are SOL unless we spring for satellite tv. In our household we don't watch enough to justify the cost. I also wonder how good the tuners are in the el-cheapo converter boxes. Most digital tuners for analog tvs are pretty deaf compared to an old-style analog tv tuner (ie-rotary tuner). From kenwvt@gmail.com Mon Sep 17 17:32:28 2007 From: kenwvt@gmail.com (Ken VanTassell) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:32:28 -0400 Subject: FCC - cable dual visability In-Reply-To: <380-22007911718235615@ix.netcom.com> References: <380-22007911718235615@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <647737520709171432w4125b1e9l7d80fb7e2bb2e6b5@mail.gmail.com> Bob, I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. If you get your tv over the air, after Feb. 2009 you will get nothing on your set. Why should only cable operators be forced to continue analog ? There is only so much bandwidth on cable and it is limiting the amount of HD content available. Many (like myself) have invested in large HD sets and want all the additonal HD channels. Each analog channel can carry 5 SD digital signals or two HD signals in its place. The cable companies are only being forced to keep the "must carry" stations in analog and I don't know many people who will be happy with only 12 or so OTA channels . Most will need a digital converter box anyway. This whole idea is a complete waste of available cable bandwidth. -Ken On 9/17/07, Robert F. Sutherland wrote: > IMHO, this is the 1st reasonable act FCC has done since HD started emerging > "addition to carrying the broadcaster's digital signals, cable operators > must > convert those signals to analog for viewers with older receivers." > > http://broadcastengineering.com/news/fcc-cable-provide-dual-view/?r=1 > > Bob Sutherlan > > From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Sep 18 04:00:37 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 03:00:37 -0500 Subject: Arnesen back on in NH Message-ID: <20070918080037.438B849B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> >>Is she quitting the show now that she's running for Senate again? Are you thinking of another female N.H. politician, former Gov. Jeanne Shaheen? She is running against John Sununu Jr. I believe... --Bob From pete@partnercomm.com Tue Sep 18 09:07:39 2007 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FCC - cable dual visability In-Reply-To: <647737520709171432w4125b1e9l7d80fb7e2bb2e6b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Cable companies are certainly welcome to transit every channel in whatever format they find most convenient - whether analog or any of a number of digital formats. For best use of their bandwidth, it is simply a (very inexpensive) chipset at the subscriber end that would make those channels viewable (via S-Video, composite or RF) by those with analog-only television receivers. There is no reason why they'd need to provide analog at their *head end*. I didn't read that there was a "no converter" requirement... -Peter -- Peter Murray (N3IXY) Oak Hill, VA On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, Ken VanTassell wrote: > Bob, > > I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. If you get > your tv over the air, after Feb. 2009 you will get nothing on your > set. Why should only cable operators be forced to continue analog ? > There is only so much bandwidth on cable and it is limiting the > amount of HD content available. Many (like myself) have invested in > large HD sets and want all the additonal HD channels. Each analog > channel can carry 5 SD digital signals or two HD signals in its place. > The cable companies are only being forced to keep the "must carry" > stations in analog and I don't know many people who will be happy with > only 12 or so OTA channels . Most will need a digital converter box > anyway. This whole idea is a complete waste of available cable > bandwidth. > > -Ken From rac@gabrielmass.com Tue Sep 18 17:27:50 2007 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:27:50 -0400 Subject: Arnesen back on in NH In-Reply-To: <20070918080037.438B849B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070918080037.438B849B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <46F042D6.5000105@gabrielmass.com> Of course you're right; thanks for the edit. --rc Bob Nelson wrote: >>> Is she quitting the show now that she's running for Senate again? > > Are you thinking of another female N.H. politician, former Gov. > Jeanne Shaheen? She is running against John Sununu Jr. I > believe... > > --Bob From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Sep 19 06:38:26 2007 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:38:26 -0400 Subject: Carr on WRKO-FM Message-ID: <053001c7faa9$35ed9c50$0200a8c0@Office> Did anyone see the article in today's Boston Globe? It talks about Howie Carr's lawsuit against WRKO-FM. Did I enter a time warp (back to 1968)!?! -g From aerie.ma@comcast.net Wed Sep 19 08:19:21 2007 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:19:21 -0400 Subject: Carr on WRKO-FM In-Reply-To: <053001c7faa9$35ed9c50$0200a8c0@Office> References: <053001c7faa9$35ed9c50$0200a8c0@Office> Message-ID: <003201c7fab7$4fcf18c0$128e3f81@MoeHoward> R-Ko...the automated all-music machine....can be a very tough negotiator! -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Gary's Ice Cream Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:38 AM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Carr on WRKO-FM Did anyone see the article in today's Boston Globe? It talks about Howie Carr's lawsuit against WRKO-FM. Did I enter a time warp (back to 1968)!?! -g From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Sep 19 10:57:15 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:57:15 -0500 Subject: Carr on WRKO-FM Message-ID: <20070919145718.D377C49B6C5@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Oh, not surprised--this is the paper which used to tell people the Red Sox game would be on "WEEI (850 FM)". Be sure to tune to AM 96.9 tomorrow in case Howie moves there :) >>Did anyone see the article in today's Boston Globe? It talks about Howie Carr's lawsuit against WRKO-FM. Did I enter a time warp (back to 1968)!?! -g From pete@partnercomm.com Wed Sep 19 13:19:22 2007 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Carr on WRKO-FM In-Reply-To: <20070919145718.D377C49B6C5@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Do a search on http://www.boston.com for WRKO-FM. Apparently it is a common error - including a reference to WRKO-FM (105.7) and Chuck Igo! -Peter On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Bob Nelson wrote: > Oh, not surprised--this is the paper which used to tell people the Red Sox game > would be on "WEEI (850 FM)". > > Be sure to tune to AM 96.9 tomorrow in case Howie moves there :) > > >>Did anyone see the article in today's Boston Globe? It talks about Howie > Carr's lawsuit against WRKO-FM. Did I enter a time warp (back to 1968)!?! > > -g > > From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Wed Sep 19 13:36:47 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:36:47 -0400 Subject: Carr on WRKO-FM References: Message-ID: <002c01c7fae3$a884e3b0$0401a8c0@Family> Peter wrote: > Do a search on http://www.boston.com for WRKO-FM. Apparently it is a > common error - including a reference to WRKO-FM (105.7) and Chuck Igo! > > -Peter i did the wrko-fm search and got a story about Barry Scott but a self-search turned up Clea Simon's old pieces that included me from 1999 and 2001 with the "WRKO-FM" 105.7 calls. and that, we know, is a horse long since beaten the point of being deceased. toes-up. taking the dirt nap. a horse formerly known as living. etc - -Chuck Igo From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Sep 19 15:00:01 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:00:01 -0500 Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case Message-ID: <20070919190001.A785583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Herald: http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1032693 Globe: http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2007/09/judge_howie_car.html A judicial memo was issued today in the Howie Carr v. Entercom case. The final judgement has not yet come, but the judge said that while the non-compete clause was not enforceable under state law, the "right to match" clause was. Entercom feels that they did match the offer he'd received from Greater Media and that they have the rights to him until Sept. of 2012. Further, according to the Herald, the judge wrote that Howie had no right to go to Greater Media and accept an offer from them as his contract had not been officially terminated by Entercom. All a bit confusing; will Howie show up tomorrow on WTKK or will he be forced to stay at WRKO? All still up in the air. Nobody has given comments yet (lawyers, companies). From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Sep 19 15:14:48 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:14:48 -0500 Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case Message-ID: <20070919191448.5AF8583BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> WRKO is still mum about all this on the air--and Howie won't be able to play "Winky the elephant" today because he's not on. Feinburg filling in. From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Sep 19 15:32:55 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:32:55 -0400 Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case In-Reply-To: <20070919191448.5AF8583BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070919191448.5AF8583BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770709191232l790c5f45hfb2ece04f14f6c9a@mail.gmail.com> Herald has updated The Judge ruled Entercom has the right to match the offer and could not accept a deal from WTKK while his contract with WRKO was still valid. So....If I am reading this correctly WTKK can now offer Howie a contract but Entercom has the right to match it. BUT if Greater Media puts it in the contract that Howie will be on FM then what can Entercom do? http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1032693 From lglavin@mail.com Wed Sep 19 14:09:13 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:09:13 -0500 Subject: Carr on WRKO-FM Message-ID: <20070919180913.C8C5316427A@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chuck Igo" >To: "Peter Murray" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Carr on WRKO-FM >Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:36:47 -0400 >Peter wrote: > Do a search on http://www.boston.com for WRKO-FM. Apparently it is a > common error - including a reference to WRKO-FM (105.7) and Chuck Igo! > > -Peter >i did the wrko-fm search and got a story about Barry Scott >but a self-search turned up Clea Simon's old pieces that included >me from 1999 and 2001 with the "WRKO-FM" 105.7 calls. >and that, we know, is a horse long since beaten the point of being >deceased. toes-up. taking the dirt nap. a horse formerly known as >living. etc >- -Chuck Igo It isn't dead...it's merely resting. -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Sep 19 15:57:16 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:57:16 -0500 Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case Message-ID: <20070919195716.D7C6283BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> I think the judge said he saw that Entercom hadn't officially terminated their contract with Howie and I think Entercom feels that Howie has basically agreed to a five year renewal with them. Or is it a matter of the contract expires after today and Howie can now accept the offer? BUT... WTKK's statement: ?At this point, Howie Carr has failed to obtain the ruling from the Court that was a condition of him coming to work for us. The court?s decision left many questions unanswered. We are disappointed that Howie will not be on WTKK tomorrow, but we are hopeful that he will be a part of the Greater Media family in the very near future.? Kevin wrote: >>The Judge ruled Entercom has the right to match the offer and could not accept a deal from WTKK while his contract with WRKO was still valid. So....If I am reading this correctly WTKK can now offer Howie a contract but Entercom has the right to match it. BUT if Greater Media puts it in the contract that Howie will be on FM then what can Entercom do? But is it a matter of matching salary or matching other perks, like being on FM? From m_carney@yahoo.com Wed Sep 19 16:02:32 2007 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case In-Reply-To: <4fc429770709191232l790c5f45hfb2ece04f14f6c9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <99981.52038.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Let's define matching - are we talking $$$, length or lack of Tom Finneran and Sox interruptions? Entercom might be able to do the 1st 2 but not the rest. --- Kevin Vahey wrote: > Herald has updated > > The Judge ruled Entercom has the right to match the > offer and could > not accept a deal from WTKK while his contract with > WRKO was still > valid. > > So....If I am reading this correctly WTKK can now > offer Howie a > contract but Entercom has the right to match it. BUT > if Greater Media > puts it in the contract that Howie will be on FM > then what can > Entercom do? > > http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1032693 > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html From hopperman@metrocast.net Wed Sep 19 16:25:22 2007 From: hopperman@metrocast.net (Richard Hopper) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:25:22 -0400 Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case In-Reply-To: <99981.52038.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <99981.52038.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5e5a9cc8d65afdfaa010388745354493@metrocast.net> Good point. TKK could pull a Letterman style poison pill. $50 million penalty if Howie's show is interrupted by live sports. > Let's define matching - are we talking $$$, length or > lack of Tom Finneran and Sox interruptions? Entercom > might be able to do the 1st 2 but not the rest. > > --- Kevin Vahey wrote: > Rick Hopper WLNH WLKZ WWHQ WEMJ WNHW Nassau Broadcasting Lakes Region From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Sep 19 16:34:06 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:34:06 -0400 Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case In-Reply-To: <5e5a9cc8d65afdfaa010388745354493@metrocast.net> References: <99981.52038.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <5e5a9cc8d65afdfaa010388745354493@metrocast.net> Message-ID: <4fc429770709191334q51799ad6k89c594c162bf114@mail.gmail.com> This is how lawyers get rich 96.9 is offering mornings WRKO could do that The money is cut and dried as far as matching This is a mess From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Sep 19 17:04:28 2007 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:04:28 -0400 Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case In-Reply-To: <20070919190001.A785583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <05dc01c7fb00$aae9cf90$0200a8c0@Office> But just because they offered to match the money....wouldn't they also have to match the job...meaning that Howie would get AM drive? -g -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:00 PM To: BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case Herald: http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1032693 Globe: http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2007/09/judge_howie_car.html A judicial memo was issued today in the Howie Carr v. Entercom case. The final judgement has not yet come, but the judge said that while the non-compete clause was not enforceable under state law, the "right to match" clause was. Entercom feels that they did match the offer he'd received from Greater Media and that they have the rights to him until Sept. of 2012. Further, according to the Herald, the judge wrote that Howie had no right to go to Greater Media and accept an offer from them as his contract had not been officially terminated by Entercom. All a bit confusing; will Howie show up tomorrow on WTKK or will he be forced to stay at WRKO? All still up in the air. Nobody has given comments yet (lawyers, companies). From nostaticatall@charter.net Wed Sep 19 17:26:03 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:26:03 -0400 Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case In-Reply-To: <05dc01c7fb00$aae9cf90$0200a8c0@Office> References: <05dc01c7fb00$aae9cf90$0200a8c0@Office> Message-ID: <5188632d5b61d2c8c801b408db1a508c@charter.net> Howie could have really screwed himself here. By negotiating and signing a deal with GM before his Entercom contract expired, it triggered the "right to match" clause that the judge upheld. If he had just negotiated with GM, agreed to nothing on paper, and let September 19th come and go, the Entercom contract would have expired and he could have then signed with GM on the 20th. Entercom would have been powerless to do anything about it--at least that's how I'm reading it. This is all going to ride on how that right to match clause in his contract is worded. Is it just a salary match or can other factors like daypart and working conditions be part of it? And, is it worded that if Entercom indeed "matches" that offer to the letter of the contract, does that automatically extend the contract the length of the competing offer, even if Carr doesn't agree to it? Clarifying what constitutes a "matched offer" is the next step in the process. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Sep 19, 2007, at 5:04 PM, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > But just because they offered to match the money....wouldn't they also > have > to match the job...meaning that Howie would get AM drive? > > -g > > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On > Behalf Of > Bob Nelson > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:00 PM > To: BostonRadio Mailing List > Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case > > Herald: > http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1032693 > > Globe: > http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2007/09/judge_howie_car.html > > A judicial memo was issued today in the Howie Carr v. Entercom case. > The final judgement has not yet come, but the judge said that while the > non-compete clause was not enforceable under state law, the "right to > match" > clause was. Entercom feels that they did match the offer he'd received > from > Greater Media and that they have the rights to him until Sept. of 2012. > Further, according to the Herald, the judge wrote that Howie had no > right to > go to Greater Media and accept an offer from them as his contract had > not > been officially terminated by Entercom. > > All a bit confusing; will Howie show up tomorrow on WTKK or will he be > forced to stay at WRKO? All still up in the air. Nobody has given > comments > yet (lawyers, companies). > > From MauOB@aol.com Wed Sep 19 17:32:57 2007 From: MauOB@aol.com (MauOB@aol.com) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:32:57 EDT Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case Message-ID: I wonder if WTTk could withdraw the contract offer. Then they could renegotiate a new offer. Maureen ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Sep 19 21:47:56 2007 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:47:56 -0400 Subject: Forwarding of a Statement from Howie Carrs PR firm Message-ID: <061b01c7fb28$4427a160$0200a8c0@Office> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: September 19, 2007 Statement On Behalf Of Howie Carr Regarding Judge's Ruling Boston, MA- While we would like to have achieved a complete victory in court, we are gratified that the decision leaves open the opportunity for Howie to work at the place of his choosing. Not only did the Court find unlawful a portion of Entercom's employment agreement, but the Court adopted our argument that Howie cannot be forced to work for a particular radio station. Howie looks forward to taking some well-deserved time off from one of his three careers and to joining WTKK in the very near future. From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Sep 19 14:43:58 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:43:58 -0400 Subject: Howie in limbo Message-ID: <4fc429770709191143w595aa275ja49d52a4febb9e7b@mail.gmail.com> Looks like Howie not going to be on 96.9 anytime soon. So what does Howie do now as today was his last day at WRKO???? http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2007/09/judge_howie_car.html The judge wrote today that in the final judgment, which is yet to come, the part of the contract which included a non-compete clause is not enforceable under state law, but another clause that gave WRKO the right to match any new offer was enforceable. From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Sep 19 22:55:18 2007 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:55:18 -0400 Subject: Howie in limbo In-Reply-To: <4fc429770709191143w595aa275ja49d52a4febb9e7b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770709191143w595aa275ja49d52a4febb9e7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Will WRKO continue to call the show "the Howie Carr Show"? From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Sep 19 23:36:15 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:36:15 -0400 Subject: Howie in limbo In-Reply-To: References: <4fc429770709191143w595aa275ja49d52a4febb9e7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770709192036k6688686fnd340ffd16bcec8eb@mail.gmail.com> I don't see how they can. Howie's statement says he will take some time off. The only way Howie goes back to RKO is getting a deal similar to Ordway who tells Jason and Julie what to do. We have not seen anything like this since HDH got Larry Glick and paid him for a year before he could go on the air. On 9/19/07, Dan Billings wrote: > Will WRKO continue to call the show "the Howie Carr Show"? > > From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 20 02:34:52 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:34:52 -0500 Subject: Howie in limbo Message-ID: <20070920063452.AA6F983BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> I don't know if they can keep calling it the Howie Carr Show but Feinburg finished the show today by saying Howie would be back tomorrow (???) Meanwhile WTKK could have another hole in its lineup; RadioEqualizer Brian Maloney is hearing O'Reilly may give up his radio show come December. From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 20 03:02:15 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:02:15 -0500 Subject: A tale of two sites: WRKO and WTKK Message-ID: <20070920070215.B6A3C83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> As of right now if you go to http://www.wrko.com you can see what I can best describe as a polar bear wearing a white T-shirt during a snowstorm. All white, all right. No content. Meanwhile at http://www.wtkk.com they say the new site will be unveiled soon (new logo shown off) and they have their statement on the Howie situation. On the Ch 4 report, Lisa Hughes and Jack Williams were talking and it was said that Carr will probably appeal the ruling and he hopes to be on WTKK soon. He doesn't plan to go back to WRKO. From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 20 03:11:24 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:11:24 -0500 Subject: A tale of two sites: WRKO and WTKK Message-ID: <20070920071124.6EB2983BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Also the name and face of one Mike Barnicle are finally gone from the WTKK site. From nostaticatall@charter.net Thu Sep 20 03:46:40 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:46:40 -0400 Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case In-Reply-To: References: <05dc01c7fb00$aae9cf90$0200a8c0@Office> <5188632d5b61d2c8c801b408db1a508c@charter.net> Message-ID: <6bcd94d34baf1741a98bb3cbf6ee5b5f@charter.net> He'll make his money, but don't think for a second that he wants to spend the next five years in the Sneaker Building with Julie, Jason and the Speakah. He wants out in a big way, and is willing to sit out if that's what it takes to make it happen. He'll wind up at WTKK eventually. The question is when, and how much money will he spend to get there. On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:54 AM, Dave in Boston wrote: >> Howie could have really screwed himself here. By negotiating and >> signing a deal with GM before his Entercom contract expired... > > I don't know how he is 'screwed'....either way he has a good paying > job. > > Worst comes to worst....he just might have to go back to WRKO...and > make another $790,000.00 a year. > From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Sep 20 08:37:19 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:37:19 -0400 Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case In-Reply-To: <6bcd94d34baf1741a98bb3cbf6ee5b5f@charter.net> References: <05dc01c7fb00$aae9cf90$0200a8c0@Office> <5188632d5b61d2c8c801b408db1a508c@charter.net> <6bcd94d34baf1741a98bb3cbf6ee5b5f@charter.net> Message-ID: <4fc429770709200537s561170bet8972a518a6ecfad@mail.gmail.com> Page 41 of the Herald has a WRKO Howie ad. It looks to me that the key here is the 180 day window Entercom has to match so Howie may have to sit 6 months.WTKK already a winner as Howie silenced. From m_carney@yahoo.com Thu Sep 20 08:56:26 2007 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case In-Reply-To: <4fc429770709200537s561170bet8972a518a6ecfad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <822701.1166.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> The Howie ad is standing trade, and often there isn't a lot of attention paid to it unless the other party requests the Herald to make a change. --- Kevin Vahey wrote: > Page 41 of the Herald has a WRKO Howie ad. It looks > to me that the key > here is the 180 day window Entercom has to match so > Howie may have to > sit 6 months.WTKK already a winner as Howie > silenced. > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 20 10:36:30 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:36:30 -0500 Subject: Howie in limbo Message-ID: <20070920143630.893A583BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> By the way the WRKO site is back up and it says Todd Feinburg in for Howie today. It may say that for awhile. Not sure how long it will take to settle this. As for the Herald ad, by contract WRKO's ads for Howie run on Mondays and Thursdays and I believe the Dennis and Callahan ads run in the paper Tue. and Fri. D&C are back of course and Howie is not but those ads will no doubt continue until it's settled, and if, say, Howie does get his release then they'd be ads for whomever gets the aft slot or poss. Finneran... From HeritageRadio@msn.com Thu Sep 20 02:03:25 2007 From: HeritageRadio@msn.com (thomas heathwood) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:03:25 -0500 Subject: Howie Carr Message-ID: It would appear that, as of 12 Midnight - Howie Carr has no contract with anyone. Guess - depending on appeal to the Court on its decisions of Wednesday, Howie will be re-negotiating somewhere. What would happen if a third party showed up on the scene. Tom Heathwood From Dave_in_Boston2001@hotmail.com Thu Sep 20 01:54:30 2007 From: Dave_in_Boston2001@hotmail.com (Dave in Boston) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:54:30 -0400 Subject: Judge gives mixed results in Carr case References: <05dc01c7fb00$aae9cf90$0200a8c0@Office> <5188632d5b61d2c8c801b408db1a508c@charter.net> Message-ID: > Howie could have really screwed himself here. By negotiating and signing > a deal with GM before his Entercom contract expired... I don't know how he is 'screwed'....either way he has a good paying job. Worst comes to worst....he just might have to go back to WRKO...and make another $790,000.00 a year. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Thu Sep 20 11:48:30 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:48:30 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr References: Message-ID: <003b01c7fb9d$b23455c0$0401a8c0@Family> i think that on a simple appeal, where the judge said that if the parties involved in finding a new thing for Howie had done so on the q/t instead of being honest and forthright, Howie would have been on the air at 55 Morrissey Blvd this morning - basically advocated a violation of the terms of the contract in question, then the thing should be tossed. additionally - if Entercom stands by its right to match - when does it take ownership of 96.9 from Greater Media? as i would assume (and maybe mistakenly) that the employment offer from Greater Media includes some sort of verbiage in reference to the talk station. i know Howie likes his rock&roll (he makes reference to it frequently), but if the deal was for mornings specifically on 96.9, there's no way Entercom could possibly "match." if the judge wants to uphold the "letter" of the law... - -Chuck Igo ----- Original Message ----- From: "thomas heathwood" To: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:03 AM Subject: Howie Carr It would appear that, as of 12 Midnight - Howie Carr has no contract with anyone. Guess - depending on appeal to the Court on its decisions of Wednesday, Howie will be re-negotiating somewhere. What would happen if a third party showed up on the scene. Tom Heathwood From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Sep 20 13:28:41 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:28:41 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr References: Message-ID: <015501c7fbab$b78cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <> How's this for an improbable possibility . . . he gets offered the evening shift at 'BZ. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "thomas heathwood" To: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:03 AM Subject: Howie Carr It would appear that, as of 12 Midnight - Howie Carr has no contract with anyone. Guess - depending on appeal to the Court on its decisions of Wednesday, Howie will be re-negotiating somewhere. What would happen if a third party showed up on the scene. Tom Heathwood From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Sep 20 12:42:08 2007 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:42:08 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <015501c7fbab$b78cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <015501c7fbab$b78cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <18162.41696.575378.74680@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: <> > How's this for an improbable possibility . . . he gets offered the evening > shift at 'BZ. I'm given to understand that that job's all sewn up. And in any case, would Howie want to trade preemptions for Red Sox games for preemptions for Bruins games, particularly when the hockey season is just starting? Don't think so. -GAWollman From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Thu Sep 20 12:43:46 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:43:46 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr References: <015501c7fbab$b78cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <008801c7fba5$6ab411b0$0401a8c0@Family> Doug asked the best question of the day: > <> > > How's this for an improbable possibility . . . he gets offered the evening > shift at 'BZ. > so long as the offer is made at 1201am in the not-too-distant future. and for goodness sake - NOT on paper. - - Chuck Igo From lglavin@mail.com Thu Sep 20 13:04:03 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:04:03 -0500 Subject: Howie in limbo Message-ID: <20070920170404.4D5EF1BF28D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: "Dan Billings" , "Kevin Vahey" , bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Howie in limbo >Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:34:52 -0500 >Meanwhile WTKK could have another hole in its lineup; >RadioEqualizer Brian Maloney is >hearing O'Reilly may give up his radio show come December. Each day I listen to the portions of the Stephanie Miller Show that are available on her website, and she mentioned on Monday that Billo would be ending his radio show soon. There was a tinge of regret in her voice I noticed. -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Thu Sep 20 13:58:17 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <015501c7fbab$b78cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <703491.95209.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Doug Drown wrote: > How's this for an improbable possibility . . . he gets offered the > evening > shift at 'BZ. Would Infinity/CBS re-offer Severin a night-time syndicated show, with guaranteed clearance on WBZ? Or was Severin's syndicated show that much of a flop? That would open PM drive for Carr at 96.9. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 20 14:05:17 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:05:17 -0500 Subject: Howie in limbo Message-ID: <20070920180517.BBFD183985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Ah...well she still can have fun with going after his TV show, or Hannity's TV/radio gigs. From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Sep 20 14:12:25 2007 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:12:25 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <703491.95209.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <015501c7fbab$b78cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <703491.95209.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <18162.47113.672511.60856@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Would Infinity/CBS re-offer Severin a night-time syndicated show, with > guaranteed clearance on WBZ? Or was Severin's syndicated show that much > of a flop? I am fairly certain that they would not. The 'BZ management wouldn't want it, and given Mason's record so far, I don't think CBS brass are inclined to screw with a successful, top-rated station. BTW, there is no "Infinity" any more, by the way, and use of that word by CBS Radio employees is (or at least apparently was a year ago) grounds for disciplinary action. -GAWollman From nostaticatall@charter.net Wed Sep 19 23:39:56 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:39:56 -0400 Subject: Howie in limbo In-Reply-To: <4fc429770709191143w595aa275ja49d52a4febb9e7b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770709191143w595aa275ja49d52a4febb9e7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The judge upheld the right to match clause in Carr's contract, so Entercom may be thinking that if they "match" what WTKK was offering, that would extend the contract for another five years. Is that contract still in force? It must be to some degree, or else Carr would be at WTKK tomorrow morning. Will Howie just not show up to work at WRKO if it is, and hope that Entercom will just let him walk eventually? I'm sure there will be more court proceedings to sort this all out. On Sep 19, 2007, at 2:43 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Looks like Howie not going to be on 96.9 anytime soon. > > So what does Howie do now as today was his last day at WRKO???? > > > http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2007/09/judge_howie_car.html > > The judge wrote today that in the final judgment, which is yet to > come, the part of the contract which included a non-compete clause is > not enforceable under state law, but another clause that gave WRKO the > right to match any new offer was enforceable. > From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Sep 20 16:30:34 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:30:34 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr References: <015501c7fbab$b78cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <703491.95209.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <18162.47113.672511.60856@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <003501c7fbc5$1984ef60$6501a8c0@pastor2> <> You've got to be kidding. What happens if you mention Group W?? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:12 PM Subject: Re: Howie Carr > < said: > > > Would Infinity/CBS re-offer Severin a night-time syndicated show, with > > guaranteed clearance on WBZ? Or was Severin's syndicated show that much > > of a flop? > > I am fairly certain that they would not. The 'BZ management wouldn't > want it, and given Mason's record so far, I don't think CBS brass are > inclined to screw with a successful, top-rated station. > > BTW, there is no "Infinity" any more, by the way, and use of that word > by CBS Radio employees is (or at least apparently was a year ago) > grounds for disciplinary action. > > -GAWollman > From me@billoneill.us Thu Sep 20 16:34:52 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:34:52 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <003501c7fbc5$1984ef60$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <015501c7fbab$b78cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <703491.95209.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <18162.47113.672511.60856@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <003501c7fbc5$1984ef60$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <46F2D96C.6050904@billoneill.us> Doug Drown wrote: > You've got to be kidding. What happens if you mention Group W?? > > How about, "Hey pop-open the Westinghouse and hand me a Pepsi, will ya?" Bill O'Neill From scott@fybush.com Thu Sep 20 16:40:58 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:40:58 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <46F2D96C.6050904@billoneill.us> References: <015501c7fbab$b78cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <703491.95209.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <18162.47113.672511.60856@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <003501c7fbc5$1984ef60$6501a8c0@pastor2> <46F2D96C.6050904@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <46F2DADA.1020603@fybush.com> Bill O'Neill wrote: > Doug Drown wrote: >> You've got to be kidding. What happens if you mention Group W?? >> >> > > How about, "Hey pop-open the Westinghouse and hand me a Pepsi, will ya?" You can be sure... Anyway, wouldn't you be sent to the Group W Bench for that particular infraction? s ("and creating a public nuisance...") From radiotony@comcast.net Thu Sep 20 16:49:54 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony@comcast.net) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:49:54 +0000 Subject: Getting around the court decision? Message-ID: <092020072049.16264.46F2DCF2000CD6AE00003F8822007354469702019B01070B0E9D@comcast.net> How about this for getting around the court decision: WTKK could start a new morning show called "The WTKK Morning Show" with a non-egoist host who could introduce callers and other things, and Howie Carr could be the show's permanent guest, like he was being interviewed, and show up every morning to do the show, but it wouldn't be his official show until it is all resolved. Do you think he could do that? Another thing: Why aren't WTKK hosts interviewing Howie on the air and talking about stuff and what will happen to the station in the future after the contract stuff is resolved? I know if I was running WRKO and he did that, I would be pretty burned. Since Howie seems pretty ripped about it all, I'm surprised he hasn't thought of this. -- Best, Tony Schinella From rac@gabrielmass.com Thu Sep 20 16:22:17 2007 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:22:17 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <18162.47113.672511.60856@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <015501c7fbab$b78cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <703491.95209.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <18162.47113.672511.60856@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <46F2D679.8020508@gabrielmass.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> Would Infinity/CBS re-offer Severin a night-time syndicated show, with >> guaranteed clearance on WBZ? Or was Severin's syndicated show that much >> of a flop? > > I am fairly certain that they would not. The 'BZ management wouldn't > want it, Come to think of it: in terms of his presentation style and his philosophy, Jay Severin would be a rather suitable successor to David Brudnoy. --RC From MauOB@aol.com Thu Sep 20 17:32:26 2007 From: MauOB@aol.com (MauOB@aol.com) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:32:26 EDT Subject: Howie Carr Message-ID: In a message dated 9/20/2007 5:22:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rac@gabrielmass.com writes: Come to think of it: in terms of his presentation style and his philosophy, Jay Severin would be a rather suitable successor to David Brudnoy. Brudnoy maybe. Don't forget Paul Sullivan was on for years. He was much more humble and likable than Severin. WBZ needs to have someone who is more of a "regular guy." Maureen ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From rac@gabrielmass.com Thu Sep 20 16:38:02 2007 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:38:02 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <18162.47113.672511.60856@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <015501c7fbab$b78cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <703491.95209.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <18162.47113.672511.60856@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <46F2DA2A.8020302@gabrielmass.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > > BTW, there is no "Infinity" any more, by the way, and use of that word > by CBS Radio employees is (or at least apparently was a year ago) > grounds for disciplinary action. > So that's the real reason they sacked Don Imus. :-) --RC From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Sep 20 20:37:17 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:37:17 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <46F2D96C.6050904@billoneill.us> References: <015501c7fbab$b78cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <703491.95209.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <18162.47113.672511.60856@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <003501c7fbc5$1984ef60$6501a8c0@pastor2> <46F2D96C.6050904@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <46F3123D.5050504@ttlc.net> Bill O'Neill wrote: > Doug Drown wrote: >> You've got to be kidding. What happens if you mention Group W?? >> >> > > How about, "Hey pop-open the Westinghouse and hand me a Pepsi, will ya?" > > Bill O'Neill > (and I'm NOT making this up) As one of the WBZ personalities once said (on-the-air, WAAAY back in the early 60's) "If you stick your finger into the electric fan, You Can Be Sore If It's Westinghouse" From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Sep 20 22:47:31 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:47:31 -0400 Subject: wanna help a promotion director? Message-ID: <20070921024800.42260648126@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Some of you may recall when you were just starting out... and what it was like to be expected to do certain jobs when you had never done them and didn't know how to do them the right way. Well, a station I have consulted in the past (but am currently not working with) has a really nice kid named Megan doing the promotions, and she is totally new at the job. She's just out of college and has been in radio for 4 months, which means she is learning as she goes along. We keep in touch, and tonight she asked me if I knew any promotion directors (or PDs who know how to do promotions) to whom she could ask a couple of questions. She's not looking for a gig, but she is looking for a little guidance. Her name is Megan, and she works at a talk station in the Twin Cities. Would anyone have time to be a resource for her? If so, her e-mail is Use my name when you drop her a note. She is really eager to talk to some experienced people in markets of any size and any format. What she wants to know is about the job description for a promotion director, as well as throwing a few ideas around about stuff she wants to try to do for her station. From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Sep 21 02:24:09 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:24:09 -0500 Subject: Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <18162.47113.672511.60856@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <015501c7fbab$b78cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2>, <703491.95209.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com>, <18162.47113.672511.60856@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <46F31D39.17187.7636D1@joe.attorneyross.com> On 20 Sep 2007 at 14:12, Garrett Wollman wrote: > BTW, there is no "Infinity" any more, by the way, and use of that word > by CBS Radio employees is (or at least apparently was a year ago) > grounds for disciplinary action. Really? When did this happen? What's the corporate entity now for the radio properties? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Sep 21 02:24:16 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:24:16 -0500 Subject: Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <003b01c7fb9d$b23455c0$0401a8c0@Family> References: , <003b01c7fb9d$b23455c0$0401a8c0@Family> Message-ID: <46F31D40.11787.765110@joe.attorneyross.com> On 20 Sep 2007 at 11:48, Chuck Igo wrote: > additionally - if Entercom stands by its right to match - when does it > take ownership of 96.9 from Greater Media? as i would assume (and > maybe mistakenly) that the employment offer from Greater Media > includes some sort of verbiage in reference to the talk station. i > know Howie likes his rock&roll (he makes reference to it frequently), > but if the deal was for mornings specifically on 96.9, there's no way > Entercom could possibly "match." if the judge wants to uphold the > "letter" of the law... That probably depends on just what the contract says and what a "matching offer" is. Is it just the money or does it include other things? Since the case is before Judge Van Gestel, that means it's in the Business Session in Suffolk Superior Court. That's a session devoted to business disputes. It's a new innovation, only a few years old, and Judge Van Gestel is very knowledgeable on this sort of thing. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Sep 21 02:24:18 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:24:18 -0500 Subject: Getting around the court decision? In-Reply-To: <092020072049.16264.46F2DCF2000CD6AE00003F8822007354469702019B01070B0E9D@comcast.net> References: <092020072049.16264.46F2DCF2000CD6AE00003F8822007354469702019B01070B0E9D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <46F31D42.11523.7657D6@joe.attorneyross.com> On 20 Sep 2007 at 20:49, radiotony@comcast.net wrote: > How about this for getting around the court decision: WTKK could start > a new morning show called "The WTKK Morning Show" with a non-egoist > host who could introduce callers and other things, and Howie Carr > could be the show's permanent guest, like he was being interviewed, > and show up every morning to do the show, but it wouldn't be his > official show until it is all resolved. Do you think he could do that? I've never heard of paying a guest. And whatever the configuration, I suspect the contract terms would still apply -- whatever deal was offered to Howie Carr, WRKO would be entitled to try to match it. > Another thing: Why aren't WTKK hosts interviewing Howie on the air and > talking about stuff and what will happen to the station in the future > after the contract stuff is resolved? I know if I was running WRKO and > he did that, I would be pretty burned. Since Howie seems pretty ripped > about it all, I'm surprised he hasn't thought of this. His lawyers have probably told him to keep silent. There's litigation going on, and anything he might say could be used against him. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Sep 21 02:12:25 2007 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:12:25 -0400 Subject: Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <46F31D39.17187.7636D1@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <015501c7fbab$b78cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <703491.95209.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <18162.47113.672511.60856@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <46F31D39.17187.7636D1@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <18163.24777.338931.500254@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > On 20 Sep 2007 at 14:12, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> BTW, there is no "Infinity" any more, by the way, and use of that word >> by CBS Radio employees is (or at least apparently was a year ago) >> grounds for disciplinary action. > Really? When did this happen? What's the corporate entity now for > the radio properties? Oddly enough, it's called "CBS Radio". (I'd have to look up their ownership filings to find out the full corporate name -- assuming there even is one. WBZ I know to be licensed to "CBS Radio East Inc." but there may be multiple layers of corporations, LLCs, and partnerships between that entity and the ultimate partent company, National Amusements.) -GAWollman From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Sep 21 02:35:54 2007 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:35:54 -0400 Subject: An odd malfunction on WBUR-FM Message-ID: <18163.26186.270124.283563@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> It appears that WBUR-FM is having issues this morning. I am hearing two distinct signals, one with the IBOC delay, which I can hear by grabbing the antenna, and one without. Did someone bump the switch for the backup transmitter? -GAWollman From radiotony@comcast.net Fri Sep 21 10:04:46 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:04:46 -0400 Subject: Getting around the court decision? In-Reply-To: <46F31D42.11523.7657D6@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <092020072049.16264.46F2DCF2000CD6AE00003F8822007354469702019B01070B0E9D@comcast.net> <46F31D42.11523.7657D6@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <002d01c7fc58$5ecf1620$1c6d4260$@net> My idea was about staying on the air during the contract dispute not about matching it. If Carr's lawyers are telling him to stay off radio, why did he go on WBZ-TV 4 the other night? Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: A. Joseph Ross [mailto:joe@attorneyross.com] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:24 AM To: radiotony@comcast.net Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Getting around the court decision? > Another thing: Why aren't WTKK hosts interviewing Howie on the air and > talking about stuff and what will happen to the station in the future > after the contract stuff is resolved? I know if I was running WRKO and > he did that, I would be pretty burned. Since Howie seems pretty ripped > about it all, I'm surprised he hasn't thought of this. His lawyers have probably told him to keep silent. There's litigation going on, and anything he might say could be used against him. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Sep 21 12:12:28 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:12:28 -0500 Subject: Getting around the court decision? Message-ID: <20070921161228.C00F249B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> The Ch 4 interview was taped on Monday night, before the outcome of the judge's decisions was known. It was hoped that he would have been "the new WTKK morning guy" by then. Remember that when the news came out about Howie wanting to jump, Entercom told him not to discuss the issue on the air. He did give vague hints, ranging from playing an elephant's roar to: (when "Gimme Three Steps" by Lynyrd Skynyrd was used as a bumper), "gimme three steps to the door, and you'll never see me no more...maybe we should use Tom Petty's "I Won't Back Down"...) The elephant roar was almost him saying, "I'm about to charge right out of here to my dream job". Now Winky the elephant is in a cage... He also was told to read a statement that clearly was written by station management. Howie kept saying, "it says here..." to explain that. But yes, he didn't keep silent on TV...he did make some statements, but not many, to newspapers, but had to keep silent on his show. From lglavin@mail.com Fri Sep 21 12:22:56 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:22:56 -0500 Subject: WORLD EXCLUSIVE (I'veGotta Stop Reading Drudge): WKOX 50K? Message-ID: <20070921162256.6C14C1BF28D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> I was just sampling the AM dial this morning (Friday) and WKOX-AM 1200's signal was VERY strong on the radio I use that also displays relative signal strength, way above its customary reading, and almost as strong as WBIX-AM 1060. I tuned in to the frequency on a couple of ordinary radios in the house, and the sound level was up there with the strongest signals. Then when I got into the car while it was in the garage, WKOX was still quite audible, something that was not true heretofore. Therefore, I assume they're testing the 50KW setup at the Sawmill Brook Parkway site. It will be interesting to see how well it comes in tonight...and no, unlike WXKS-AM 1430, there wqas no IBOC hash on adjacent frequencies. -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From me@billoneill.us Fri Sep 21 12:56:16 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:56:16 -0400 Subject: Getting around the court decision? In-Reply-To: <20070921161228.C00F249B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070921161228.C00F249B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <46F3F7B0.4070908@billoneill.us> Bob Nelson wrote: > The elephant roar was almost him saying, "I'm about to charge right out of here to my > dream job". Now Winky the elephant is in a cage... Winky wasn't the elephant that I had in mindo in this case. Bill O'Neill From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 21 12:53:30 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:53:30 -0400 Subject: strange pickup on 540 last night Message-ID: <4fc429770709210953t1d787fb1g663c2224a454c072@mail.gmail.com> Last night while driving back from the Cape I hit the scan button on AM around 10 PM and it stopped on 540 with a clear signal. At the hour the ID was WFLA Tampa-Orlando-Tallahasse HUH? WFLA is on 970 out of Tampa But a quick check on radio-locator shows me I was getting WFLF out of the Orlando area but they call themselves 540 WFLA http://www.540wfla.com/main.html In any event with their night pattern there was no way that signal should be heard 1500 miles north http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WFLF&service=AM&status=L&hours=N I am guessing they were on day pattern http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WFLF&service=AM&status=L&hours=D From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 21 13:46:30 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:46:30 -0400 Subject: WORLD EXCLUSIVE (I'veGotta Stop Reading Drudge): WKOX 50K? In-Reply-To: <20070921162256.6C14C1BF28D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070921162256.6C14C1BF28D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770709211046l363193c6ia7ea0078664651ac@mail.gmail.com> It is coming from Newton without question. They are equal to 680 and 850 in Cambridge right now. On 9/21/07, Laurence Glavin wrote: > I was just sampling the AM dial this morning (Friday) and WKOX-AM 1200's > signal was VERY strong on the radio I use that also displays relative signal > strength, way above its customary reading, and almost as strong as WBIX-AM > 1060. > I tuned in to the frequency on a couple of ordinary radios in the house, and > the > sound level was up there with the strongest signals. Then when I got into > the car > while it was in the garage, WKOX was still quite audible, something that > was not true heretofore. Therefore, I assume they're testing the 50KW setup > at the Sawmill Brook Parkway site. It will be interesting to see how well > it comes in tonight...and no, unlike WXKS-AM 1430, there wqas no IBOC hash > on adjacent frequencies. > > -- > We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! > Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Sep 21 14:11:29 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:11:29 -0400 Subject: WORLD EXCLUSIVE (I'veGotta Stop Reading Drudge): WKOX 50K? References: <20070921162256.6C14C1BF28D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <4fc429770709211046l363193c6ia7ea0078664651ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002a01c7fc7a$db31c470$b8a84c0c@SatU205S5044> Not so much in Arlington! I can't tell the difference from 10 kW ND from Framingham. Even if they are running 1/4 power, which is common during testing, I'd expect a noticeable increase. The day signal here with 50 kW from Newton is supposed to be more than 25 mV/m. The night signal will be weaker--about 20 mV/m. The Framingham signal was 3.2 mV/m days and 1.6 mV/m nights. So even if they are running the new night pattern at 1/4 power, I should be getting about 10 mV/m, which would be noticeably stronger than 3.2. Has anybody driven by the site to see whether the WUNR towers are down yet? If not, the pattern that would be produced would almost certainly be pretty meaningless--with those two tall towers right in the near field and probably not grounded the way, say, unused towers from a night array would be during the daytime at a fully operational DA-2 site. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Laurence Glavin" Cc: Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 1:46 PM Subject: Re: WORLD EXCLUSIVE (I'veGotta Stop Reading Drudge): WKOX 50K? > It is coming from Newton without question. They are equal to 680 and > 850 in Cambridge right now. > > On 9/21/07, Laurence Glavin wrote: >> I was just sampling the AM dial this morning (Friday) and WKOX-AM >> 1200's >> signal was VERY strong on the radio I use that also displays >> relative signal >> strength, way above its customary reading, and almost as strong as >> WBIX-AM >> 1060. >> I tuned in to the frequency on a couple of ordinary radios in the >> house, and >> the >> sound level was up there with the strongest signals. Then when I >> got into >> the car >> while it was in the garage, WKOX was still quite audible, something >> that >> was not true heretofore. Therefore, I assume they're testing the >> 50KW setup >> at the Sawmill Brook Parkway site. It will be interesting to see >> how well >> it comes in tonight...and no, unlike WXKS-AM 1430, there wqas no >> IBOC hash >> on adjacent frequencies. >> >> -- >> We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! >> Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains >> >> From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Sep 21 14:23:12 2007 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:23:12 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: An odd malfunction on WBUR-FM Message-ID: <13772964.1190398992231.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > From: Garrett Wollman > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:35:54 -0400 > Subject: An odd malfunction on WBUR-FM > > It appears that WBUR-FM is having issues this > morning. I am hearing two distinct signals, one > with the IBOC delay, which I can hear by grabbing > the antenna, and one without. Did someone bump > the switch for the backup transmitter? No one "bumped the switch", but the WBUR-FM backup transmitter on the BU School of Law building (which has no IBOC delay) has been spontaneously turning ITSELF on occasionally since sometime last night! A caller reported this to me while I was working there at about 2:35 AM. It was very strange. I've never seen this happen in the eight years I've worked there. The backup was on, but there were no indications whatsoever of that fact on the metering for that transmitter at the station! Although all remote meters for that transmitter were reading zero, I tried hitting Voltage/Lower anyway as if I was taking it off the air, and the caller reported that the "second signal" disappeared (for the time being) when I did that! It responded to the command, though there were no readings registering at all. Also, the dual signal effect could not be heard on the on-air monitor at the WBUR studios, because the signal from the backup transmitter just down Comm. Ave obliterated any of the main signal from 128 in the studio location, so audio from only the backup was coming over the studio air monitor, but we got listener reports of "two signals" from Concord and Arlington where both transmitters could be heard in the suburbs. Apparently, the backup transmitter had turned itself back on again today, after I left at 5 AM. I reported the situation to engineering, who responded earlier this morning that they're working on it. The subject line of my report to engineering was "Ghost in the Law transmitter?" EP From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 21 07:40:49 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:40:49 -0400 Subject: Getting around the court decision? In-Reply-To: <46F31D42.11523.7657D6@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <092020072049.16264.46F2DCF2000CD6AE00003F8822007354469702019B01070B0E9D@comcast.net> <46F31D42.11523.7657D6@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770709210440m67675b0s2c389ca3edcb9233@mail.gmail.com> WEEI tried something similar when Gammons was forced off 850 in favor of 890 which he hates as nobody can hear him. For a few weeks he was on as 'Peter from Brookline' but Bristol ordered him to stop. From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Sep 21 14:11:22 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:11:22 -0400 Subject: strange pickup on 540 last night References: <4fc429770709210953t1d787fb1g663c2224a454c072@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002901c7fc7a$d9631ef0$b8a84c0c@SatU205S5044> What you actually heard, then, was WFLF Pine Hills (I think, right near Orlando). Sounds as if they do the legals for the individual stations in the trimulcast at a different time than when you caught the signal. Excellent catch! WFLF is 50 kW-D and something quite close to 50 kW at night (44 kW, maybe?), but both the day and night patterns (six towers D and N, IIRC) are quite directional east to west with little coming north day or night--but especially night. There are 50-kW ND Class As on 540 in SK and somewhere in Mexico. Florida has to protect both, so the signal is restricted to the northwest and southwest. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Bob Nelson" Cc: Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: strange pickup on 540 last night > Last night while driving back from the Cape I hit the scan button on > AM around 10 PM and it stopped on 540 with a clear signal. > > At the hour the ID was WFLA Tampa-Orlando-Tallahasse > > HUH? > > WFLA is on 970 out of Tampa > > But a quick check on radio-locator shows me I was getting WFLF out > of > the Orlando area but they call themselves 540 WFLA > > http://www.540wfla.com/main.html > > In any event with their night pattern there was no way that signal > should be heard 1500 miles north > > http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WFLF&service=AM&status=L&hours=N > > I am guessing they were on day pattern > > http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WFLF&service=AM&status=L&hours=D From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 21 14:58:30 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:58:30 -0400 Subject: IBOC hash Friday afternoon Message-ID: <4fc429770709211158s7f92913bq587b04ff0e4b7372@mail.gmail.com> I don't have a HD radio as of yet but I noticed brutal IBOC hash coming from 3 stations today WBZ 1030 was no surprise but the other 2 were WXKS 1430 and WMKI 1260 BZ in Cambridge was really causing problems for me to hear WBIX 1060 clearly/ I didn't notice hash coming from anybody else From paul@derrynh.net Fri Sep 21 15:26:55 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:26:55 -0400 Subject: WORLD EXCLUSIVE (I'veGotta Stop Reading Drudge): WKOX 50K? In-Reply-To: <4fc429770709211046l363193c6ia7ea0078664651ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003a01c7fc85$5efa2450$9422434b@YOURF7ED5FB036> WKOX is coming in pretty good here in Derry, about equal to WTTT in relative strength Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Vahey Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 1:47 PM To: Laurence Glavin Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: WORLD EXCLUSIVE (I'veGotta Stop Reading Drudge): WKOX 50K? It is coming from Newton without question. They are equal to 680 and 850 in Cambridge right now. On 9/21/07, Laurence Glavin wrote: > I was just sampling the AM dial this morning (Friday) and WKOX-AM 1200's > signal was VERY strong on the radio I use that also displays relative signal > strength, way above its customary reading, and almost as strong as WBIX-AM > 1060. > I tuned in to the frequency on a couple of ordinary radios in the house, and > the > sound level was up there with the strongest signals. Then when I got into > the car > while it was in the garage, WKOX was still quite audible, something that > was not true heretofore. Therefore, I assume they're testing the 50KW setup > at the Sawmill Brook Parkway site. It will be interesting to see how well > it comes in tonight...and no, unlike WXKS-AM 1430, there wqas no IBOC hash > on adjacent frequencies. > > -- > We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! > Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains > > From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Sep 21 18:01:53 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:01:53 -0400 Subject: IBOC hash Friday afternoon References: <4fc429770709211158s7f92913bq587b04ff0e4b7372@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005201c7fc9b$05d31b00$0200a8c0@Tanguray> I didn't have an opportunity to mention it earlier but I actually HEARD WBZ turn on their IBOC "hash" at 7:30PM a couple of nights ago... I just happened to be scanning their adjacent channel 1040 and listening for an ID when at 7:30 the IBOC went on and both adjacents were useless... I wonder if they have an "off/on" policy or someone just "remembered" to "flick the switch"? Ah... the challenges of broadcast DXing! Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: IBOC hash Friday afternoon > I don't have a HD radio as of yet but I noticed brutal IBOC hash > coming from 3 stations today > > WBZ 1030 was no surprise but the other 2 were WXKS 1430 and WMKI 1260 > > BZ in Cambridge was really causing problems for me to hear WBIX 1060 clearly/ > > I didn't notice hash coming from anybody else > From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Sep 21 18:08:28 2007 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:08:28 -0400 Subject: IBOC hash Friday afternoon In-Reply-To: <005201c7fc9b$05d31b00$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <4fc429770709211158s7f92913bq587b04ff0e4b7372@mail.gmail.com> <005201c7fc9b$05d31b00$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <18164.16604.129690.899795@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I didn't have an opportunity to mention it earlier but I actually HEARD WBZ > turn on their IBOC "hash" at 7:30PM a couple of nights ago... > I just happened to be scanning their adjacent channel 1040 and listening for > an ID when at 7:30 the IBOC went on and both adjacents were useless... I believe they were doing some coordinated testing with another station to try to measure the interference under skywave conditions. -GAWollman From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Sep 24 18:16:43 2007 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:16:43 -0400 Subject: Howie in limbo Message-ID: Todd Feinburg was on today and they were still calling it "The Howie Carr Show." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Billings" To: "Kevin Vahey" ; Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:55 PM Subject: Re: Howie in limbo > Will WRKO continue to call the show "the Howie Carr Show"? From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Mon Sep 24 19:40:06 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:40:06 -0400 Subject: Howie in limbo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46F84AD6.1080307@ttlc.net> Sunday afternoon at 12:58, Pat Whitley ran down all the stuff he does at the end of his show and was a little too hasty. At 12:59 he remarked - "I just can't believe it. I've done everything and I still have almost a minute left with nothing to say or do. Whatever shall I do? I KNOW, maybe I'll just get up and walk out. Leave! That seems to be the popular thing to do here at WRKO these days. " Dan Billings wrote: > Todd Feinburg was on today and they were still calling it "The Howie > Carr Show." > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Billings" > > To: "Kevin Vahey" ; > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:55 PM > Subject: Re: Howie in limbo > > >> Will WRKO continue to call the show "the Howie Carr Show"? > > > > From ssmyth@psualum.com Mon Sep 24 18:46:47 2007 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Manchester radio (WKBR/WFEA). Message-ID: <432928.24412.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> WKBR: It is no more. Absolute has just changed calls on 1250 Manchester to WGAM, formerly on its Nashua station. 900 Nashua now is WGHM. As of last week, they still had been identifying as WKBR/WGAM, so this is a recent move. First time I heard a revised ID was last night. WFEA: It is celebrating its 75th anniversary a few months late, but a special produced by this list's own Ed Brouder will air at noon Saturday and 7 p.m. Sunday. Visit this link for more info on WFEA's history and Mr. Brouder's role in putting together the special and accompanying celebration: http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=John+Clayton%3A+Calling+all+WFEA+alumni%2C+fans&articleId=1491181b-21d7-465a-8b1f-4664178f4dd7 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From revdoug1@verizon.net Mon Sep 24 21:32:31 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:32:31 -0400 Subject: Manchester radio (WKBR/WFEA). References: <432928.24412.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <010c01c7ff13$f2005cc0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Most people probably don't realize that WFEA began its life as a sister station to WCSH in Portland, WRDO in Augusta and, later, WLBZ in Bangor (now WZAN, WJZN and WZON respectively). All four were NBC affiliates, owned by the Rines/Thompson family of Portland (Rines Department Stores and The Eastland Hotel). Together they constituted the Maine Broadcasting System. I've got some great teenage memories from the '60s of listening to WFEA and to the old WKBR-FM (now, ironically, WZID). -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Smyth" To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:46 PM Subject: Manchester radio (WKBR/WFEA). > WKBR: It is no more. Absolute has just changed calls on 1250 Manchester > to WGAM, formerly on its Nashua station. 900 Nashua now is WGHM. As of > last week, they still had been identifying as WKBR/WGAM, so this is a > recent move. First time I heard a revised ID was last night. > > WFEA: It is celebrating its 75th anniversary a few months late, but a > special produced by this list's own Ed Brouder will air at noon > Saturday and 7 p.m. Sunday. > > Visit this link for more info on WFEA's history and Mr. Brouder's role > in putting together the special and accompanying celebration: > http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=John+Clayton%3A+Calling+all+WFEA+alumni%2C+fans&articleId=1491181b-21d7-465a-8b1f-4664178f4dd7 > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Sep 25 00:33:09 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:33:09 -0500 Subject: Manchester radio (WKBR/WFEA). In-Reply-To: <010c01c7ff13$f2005cc0$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <432928.24412.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com>, <010c01c7ff13$f2005cc0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <46F84935.314.8BC177@joe.attorneyross.com> On 24 Sep 2007 at 21:32, Doug Drown wrote: > I've got some great teenage memories from the '60s of listening to > WFEA and to the old WKBR-FM (now, ironically, WZID). I grew up in Bedford, Mass. I remember once being at a friend's house, and he was picking up WFEA. They were doing the gag that a number of top-40 stations did at that time of having lost a letter from their call letters, and calling themselves WFE*. There was some sort of contest involved with it. I think I remember WPTR doing the same thing before that, losing the T. I also remember listening to WKBR-FM, especially on Saturday afternoons when they played the previous year's hits. And after 10 PM, when WBZ and WMEX were doing talk and, after summer 1962, WCOP had dropped the top-40 format. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From xtrovato@yahoo.com Mon Sep 24 22:53:01 2007 From: xtrovato@yahoo.com (Rob Trovato) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Manchester radio (WKBR/WFEA). In-Reply-To: <432928.24412.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <852349.44920.qm@web35909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > WFEA: It is celebrating its 75th anniversary a few > months late, but a > special produced by this list's own Ed Brouder will > air at noon > Saturday and 7 p.m. Sunday. I wish/hope that this is made available as a podcast or for download. There are people all over the place that have ties to WFEA....tht are not now in the listening area. > > Visit this link for more info on WFEA's history and > Mr. Brouder's role > in putting together the special and accompanying > celebration: > http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=John+Clayton%3A+Calling+all+WFEA+alumni%2C+fans&articleId=1491181b-21d7-465a-8b1f-4664178f4dd7 > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! 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The court has set a status review of the case for Oct. 15." From me@billoneill.us Tue Sep 25 12:57:38 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:57:38 -0400 Subject: Don & Mike, Hannity in VT Message-ID: <46F93E02.6010109@billoneill.us> WXZO (96.7//960) in the Burl/Plat market saying that they are moving Don & Mike back to 3-7p live where Hannity is. Also noticing that Hannity was moved from Sirius's ABC 143 over to Patriot 144. Could Hannity end up on WVMT (620 Burl) in Howie's old & occasional slot? Bill O'Neill From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Sep 25 13:28:40 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:28:40 -0400 Subject: Don & Mike, Hannity in VT In-Reply-To: <46F93E02.6010109@billoneill.us> References: <46F93E02.6010109@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <002501c7ff99$8a75bec0$c7151bac@MasterExtra> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Bill O'Neill > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:58 PM > To: boston Radio Interest > Subject: Don & Mike, Hannity in VT > > Also > noticing that Hannity was moved from Sirius's ABC 143 over to > Patriot 144. ABC News/Talk 143 on Sirius and the same channel on XM are going away soon, ABC will no longer be producing the channel. From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 27 13:22:56 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:22:56 -0500 Subject: Kahn, WRKO: Big loss with no Howie (via Herald) Message-ID: <20070927172256.5900783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1034434 The Herald says Howie Carr has filed a motion to reconsider with the Judge. WRKO's Julie Kahn is quoted in an affadavit saying that the station would lose substantial money if he bolts to another station, and that some businesses have told her they won't advertise with WRKO if they lose him. (Meanwhile the blog SaveWRKO.com has an excerpt from a Boston magazine article about Billy Bulger which is not exactly nice to Howie...for the record, Kahn's husband is one of the magazine's bigwigs. Nice way to treat that valued employee, eh? Carr had talked about his position at Entercom as being "indentured servitude"--you could almost imagine Howie as Dylan singing, "I ain't gonna work on Julie's farm no more...") From m_carney@yahoo.com Thu Sep 27 14:27:26 2007 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Kahn, WRKO: Big loss with no Howie (via Herald) In-Reply-To: <20070927172256.5900783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <810145.9570.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> If nothing else this situation (and Dennis & Callahan's) is giving Glenn Ordway a primer in how to negotiate next year. I don't know if he's considering other offers (like if WBCN or WBOS flip to all sports) but at least he knows where the pitfalls and potholes are. --- Bob Nelson wrote: > http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1034434 > > The Herald says Howie Carr has filed a motion to > reconsider with the Judge. > WRKO's Julie Kahn is quoted in an affadavit saying > that the station > would lose substantial money if he bolts to another > station, and that > some businesses have told her they won't advertise > with WRKO > if they lose him. > > (Meanwhile the blog SaveWRKO.com has an excerpt from > a Boston magazine > article about Billy Bulger which is not exactly nice > to Howie...for > the record, Kahn's husband is one of the magazine's > bigwigs. Nice > way to treat that valued employee, eh? Carr had > talked about > his position at Entercom as being "indentured > servitude"--you > could almost imagine Howie as Dylan singing, "I > ain't gonna > work on Julie's farm no more...") > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 27 14:47:59 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:47:59 -0500 Subject: Kahn, WRKO: Big loss with no Howie (via Herald) Message-ID: <20070927184800.0A31A49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> >>If nothing else this situation (and Dennis & Callahan's) is giving Glenn Ordway a primer in how to negotiate next year. I don't know if he's considering other offers (like if WBCN or WBOS flip to all sports) but at least he knows where the pitfalls and potholes are. True enough! By the way Maloney's SaveWRKO.com blog (I know not everyone is a fan of him, admittedly) says another Boston magazine piece trashes Howie and belittles his listeners and it says they're glad he's not on ANY radio station at this point. This from a magazine with a bigwig who's married to WRKO's Julie Kahn, who has admitted in a court affadavit that the station's advertisers would leave if Howie did. From bernie0217@rcn.com Thu Sep 27 13:25:32 2007 From: bernie0217@rcn.com (bernard boehm) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:25:32 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound Message-ID: <001c01c8012b$68b82820$6400a8c0@floydsroom> attorney ross's comments about the 1962 format change for wcop brought back a flood of memories. The so called "400 million dollar sound" was thought up at the Plough radio home office in Memphis. It was supposedly based on the theory that retail music sales were going into albums..therefore a radio station should be playing those album cuts.. However after a prolonged diet of "flying down to rio" by kai winding, someone must have finally realized no one was listening to their music. The highlight of the fiasco came when the execs. from Memphis came to boston to instruct the staff on how to run the format and to give then a taste of the 400 million dollar sound.. After the first bland number was played from the podium at the old Bradford hotel, my old friend ..now the late Dick Brown yelled "wha tussi"...(the title of the current Orlons hit record)..the silence was deafening.. thanks for the memories, Bernard Lawrence Boehm aka Bill Lawrence wbz, weei, wfea, worl, wcop, wtbs From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Sep 27 15:50:37 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:50:37 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound References: <001c01c8012b$68b82820$6400a8c0@floydsroom> Message-ID: <001b01c8013f$aef3cd80$d3ada742@SatU205S5044> If you are THAT Bill Lawrence. doesn't WMEX (the 1510 incarnation) also belong in your signature? And while you worked at WORL, did Len Libman also work there? I think WORL was his first radio gig--while he was still at B.U. Later, he became LEN Lawrence, and he also worked at WMEX, though not under his real name nor under the name of Len Lawrence; for Mac Richmond, he was Michael J Rhodes Jr. And, of course, as Len Lawrence, he was at WEEI for many years. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "bernard boehm" To: Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound attorney ross's comments about the 1962 format change for wcop brought back a flood of memories. The so called "400 million dollar sound" was thought up at the Plough radio home office in Memphis. It was supposedly based on the theory that retail music sales were going into albums..therefore a radio station should be playing those album cuts.. However after a prolonged diet of "flying down to rio" by kai winding, someone must have finally realized no one was listening to their music. The highlight of the fiasco came when the execs. from Memphis came to boston to instruct the staff on how to run the format and to give then a taste of the 400 million dollar sound.. After the first bland number was played from the podium at the old Bradford hotel, my old friend ..now the late Dick Brown yelled "wha tussi"...(the title of the current Orlons hit record)..the silence was deafening.. thanks for the memories, Bernard Lawrence Boehm aka Bill Lawrence wbz, weei, wfea, worl, wcop, wtbs From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Sep 27 17:06:29 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:06:29 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound References: <001c01c8012b$68b82820$6400a8c0@floydsroom> Message-ID: <030e01c8014a$47506d40$6501a8c0@pastor2> History trivia time: Your mentioning Plough's ownership of WCOP (which I remember: "A Radio Service of Plough, Incorporated") has made me wonder what other major manufacturing companies used to own broadcasting stations but have gotten out of the business. GE exited in the '80s but went back in; Westinghouse evolved into CBS; Avco/Crosley owned WLW. Does anyone know of any others? I know Plough was a pharmaceutical company, but I'm using the term "manufacturing" broadly. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "bernard boehm" To: Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound attorney ross's comments about the 1962 format change for wcop brought back a flood of memories. The so called "400 million dollar sound" was thought up at the Plough radio home office in Memphis. It was supposedly based on the theory that retail music sales were going into albums..therefore a radio station should be playing those album cuts.. However after a prolonged diet of "flying down to rio" by kai winding, someone must have finally realized no one was listening to their music. The highlight of the fiasco came when the execs. from Memphis came to boston to instruct the staff on how to run the format and to give then a taste of the 400 million dollar sound.. After the first bland number was played from the podium at the old Bradford hotel, my old friend ..now the late Dick Brown yelled "wha tussi"...(the title of the current Orlons hit record)..the silence was deafening.. thanks for the memories, Bernard Lawrence Boehm aka Bill Lawrence wbz, weei, wfea, worl, wcop, wtbs From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Sep 27 16:05:12 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:05:12 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound In-Reply-To: <001b01c8013f$aef3cd80$d3ada742@SatU205S5044> References: <001c01c8012b$68b82820$6400a8c0@floydsroom> <001b01c8013f$aef3cd80$d3ada742@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4fc429770709271305t28ce51e3m1bf90e32f89780b9@mail.gmail.com> That is the same person. I remember that name being on a first phone at WFEA. I used to fill in overnights if Ed Avia worked ot at Channel 7/WRKO. Most important part of the shift was waking up Pete Steady the morning man. On 9/27/07, Dan.Strassberg wrote: > If you are THAT Bill Lawrence. doesn't WMEX (the 1510 incarnation) > also belong in your signature? And while you worked at WORL, did Len > Libman also work there? I think WORL was his first radio gig--while he > was still at B.U. Later, he became LEN Lawrence, and he also worked at > WMEX, though not under his real name nor under the name of Len > Lawrence; for Mac Richmond, he was Michael J Rhodes Jr. And, of > course, as Len Lawrence, he was at WEEI for many years. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bernard boehm" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:25 PM > Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound > > > attorney ross's comments about the 1962 format change for wcop brought > back a flood of memories. > The so called "400 million dollar sound" was thought up at the Plough > radio home office in Memphis. It was supposedly based on the theory > that retail music sales were going into albums..therefore a radio > station should be playing those album cuts.. > However after a prolonged diet of "flying down to rio" by kai winding, > someone must have finally realized no one was listening to their > music. > The highlight of the fiasco came when the execs. from Memphis came to > boston to instruct the staff on how to run the format and to give then > a taste of the 400 million dollar sound.. > After the first bland number was played from the podium at the old > Bradford hotel, my old friend ..now the late Dick Brown yelled "wha > tussi"...(the title of the current Orlons hit record)..the silence was > deafening.. > > > thanks for the memories, > > Bernard Lawrence Boehm aka Bill Lawrence wbz, weei, wfea, worl, > wcop, wtbs > > From ssmyth@psualum.com Thu Sep 27 16:20:27 2007 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound Message-ID: <851929.21964.qm@web58305.mail.re3.yahoo.com> From: Doug Drown << History trivia time: Your mentioning Plough's ownership of WCOP (which I remember: "A Radio Service of Plough, Incorporated") has made me wonder what other major manufacturing companies used to own broadcasting stations but have gotten out of the business. GE exited in the '80s but went back in; Westinghouse evolved into CBS; Avco/Crosley owned WLW. Does anyone know of any others? I know Plough was a pharmaceutical company, but I'm using the term "manufacturing" broadly. >> When did GE get back in radio? Did I miss it ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Sep 27 16:26:50 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:26:50 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound References: <001c01c8012b$68b82820$6400a8c0@floydsroom> <030e01c8014a$47506d40$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <003001c80144$bdfbf870$d3ada742@SatU205S5044> Many, many small manufacturing companies--few of which still exist, started radio stations in the '20s WBBM, for instance, stood for Battery Manufacturing. Donna is sure to jump in with AmRad (American Radio?) which built electronic products of the day, including radio receivers. AmRad started her all-time-favorite station, WGI Medford Hillside, which eventually became WCOP and since then has had more calls than any other Boston-area station. At the moment, it is WTTT. WGI is where Donna's all-time-favorite radio engineer, Eunice Randall, was Chief Engineer (and also did some air work). And we can't leave out RCA, which owned NBC, which in turn owned the legal-maximum complement of radio stations, WEAF (and until 1943, WJZ), WRC, WMAQ, KOA, KPO, and WJAS. In Rochester, Stromberg-Carlson owned WHAM. That's just a smattering. I think several Chicago AMs besides WBBM were named after the manufacturing companies that started them. Indeed, I think WSBC also stood for a company that manufactured batteries--might have been Standard Battery Company, although I'm not sure that the S stood for Standard. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: "bernard boehm" ; Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: wcop 400 million dollar sound > History trivia time: Your mentioning Plough's ownership of WCOP > (which I > remember: "A Radio Service of Plough, Incorporated") has made me > wonder what > other major manufacturing companies used to own broadcasting > stations but > have gotten out of the business. GE exited in the '80s but went > back in; > Westinghouse evolved into CBS; Avco/Crosley owned WLW. Does anyone > know of > any others? I know Plough was a pharmaceutical company, but I'm > using the > term "manufacturing" broadly. > > -Doug > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bernard boehm" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:25 PM > Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound > > > attorney ross's comments about the 1962 format change for wcop > brought back > a flood of memories. > The so called "400 million dollar sound" was thought up at the > Plough radio > home office in Memphis. It was supposedly based on the theory that > retail > music sales were going into albums..therefore a radio station should > be > playing those album cuts.. > However after a prolonged diet of "flying down to rio" by kai > winding, > someone must have finally realized no one was listening to their > music. > The highlight of the fiasco came when the execs. from Memphis came > to boston > to instruct the staff on how to run the format and to give then a > taste of > the 400 million dollar sound.. > After the first bland number was played from the podium at the old > Bradford > hotel, my old friend ..now the late Dick Brown yelled "wha > tussi"...(the > title of the current Orlons hit record)..the silence was deafening.. > > > thanks for the memories, > > Bernard Lawrence Boehm aka Bill Lawrence wbz, weei, wfea, worl, > wcop, > wtbs > From wollman@bimajority.org Thu Sep 27 16:30:24 2007 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:30:24 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound In-Reply-To: <030e01c8014a$47506d40$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <001c01c8012b$68b82820$6400a8c0@floydsroom> <030e01c8014a$47506d40$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <18172.4832.816355.480131@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > History trivia time: Your mentioning Plough's ownership of WCOP (which I > remember: "A Radio Service of Plough, Incorporated") has made me wonder what > other major manufacturing companies used to own broadcasting stations but > have gotten out of the business. GE exited in the '80s but went back in; > Westinghouse evolved into CBS; Avco/Crosley owned WLW. Does anyone know of > any others? I know Plough was a pharmaceutical company, but I'm using the > term "manufacturing" broadly. It was quite common and is now much less so. GE is as much a financial-services company as a manufacturing company these days, and other than the way its ownership is structured, NBC is really not much different from, say, Clear Channel (now that the shareholders have approved the takeover by a couple of private-equity firms -- although the new deal actually leaves the public with a 30% stake in the company). Susquehanna Pfaltzgraff was perhaps the last of the "old-school" manufacturing/broadcast combinations. For a while, it seems to me that broadcasting was considered a "safe" (meaning good return on capital) way of diversifying a business. Wall Street doesn't like that sort of corporate structure any more (unless you're GE or Berkshire Hathaway); diversification is for mutual funds. So you had insurance companies (Nationwide, Jefferson Pilot, and many others), manufacturing companies (GE, Westinghouse, General Tire & Rubber, etc.), and retailers (Shepard, Outlet, and Cherry & Webb in Providence alone) all involved in broadcasting. (RCA is a special case since it was, after all, the *Radio* Corporation of America.) -GAWollman From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Sep 27 16:34:29 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:34:29 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound In-Reply-To: <030e01c8014a$47506d40$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <001c01c8012b$68b82820$6400a8c0@floydsroom> <030e01c8014a$47506d40$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <4fc429770709271334q73a81580s24b842fd47e7bd48@mail.gmail.com> Plough was best known for making Coppertone. 40 years ago next month they had their best month in station history. As a NBC affilate they got to carry the 67 World Series that the Red Sox were in. From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Sep 27 18:04:14 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:04:14 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound References: <851929.21964.qm@web58305.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <032201c80152$586fff20$6501a8c0@pastor2> Not radio, but television --- GE bought RCA/NBC. Some of us wish GE WOULD get back into radio --- the NBC Radio Network has been eviscerated by Westwood One. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Smyth" To: "Doug Drown" ; Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:20 PM Subject: Re: wcop 400 million dollar sound From: Doug Drown << History trivia time: Your mentioning Plough's ownership of WCOP (which I remember: "A Radio Service of Plough, Incorporated") has made me wonder what other major manufacturing companies used to own broadcasting stations but have gotten out of the business. GE exited in the '80s but went back in; Westinghouse evolved into CBS; Avco/Crosley owned WLW. Does anyone know of any others? I know Plough was a pharmaceutical company, but I'm using the term "manufacturing" broadly. >> When did GE get back in radio? Did I miss it ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Sep 27 19:29:02 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:29:02 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound References: <001c01c8012b$68b82820$6400a8c0@floydsroom> <030e01c8014a$47506d40$6501a8c0@pastor2> <003001c80144$bdfbf870$d3ada742@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <032801c8015e$30ad8190$6501a8c0@pastor2> I never knew there was an historical tie between WGI and WCOP. Guess I'll have to check out Donna's archives on Boston radio history. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan.Strassberg" To: "Doug Drown" ; "bernard boehm" ; Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:26 PM Subject: Re: wcop 400 million dollar sound > Many, many small manufacturing companies--few of which still exist, > started radio stations in the '20s WBBM, for instance, stood for > Battery Manufacturing. > Donna is sure to jump in with AmRad (American Radio?) which built > electronic products of the day, including radio receivers. AmRad > started her all-time-favorite station, WGI Medford Hillside, which > eventually became WCOP and since then has had more calls than any > other Boston-area station. At the moment, it is WTTT. WGI is where > Donna's all-time-favorite radio engineer, Eunice Randall, was Chief > Engineer (and also did some air work). And we can't leave out RCA, > which owned NBC, which in turn owned the legal-maximum complement of > radio stations, WEAF (and until 1943, WJZ), WRC, WMAQ, KOA, KPO, and > WJAS. In Rochester, Stromberg-Carlson owned WHAM. That's just a > smattering. I think several Chicago AMs besides WBBM were named after > the manufacturing companies that started them. Indeed, I think WSBC > also stood for a company that manufactured batteries--might have been > Standard Battery Company, although I'm not sure that the S stood for > Standard. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Drown" > To: "bernard boehm" ; > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 5:06 PM > Subject: Re: wcop 400 million dollar sound > > > > History trivia time: Your mentioning Plough's ownership of WCOP > > (which I > > remember: "A Radio Service of Plough, Incorporated") has made me > > wonder what > > other major manufacturing companies used to own broadcasting > > stations but > > have gotten out of the business. GE exited in the '80s but went > > back in; > > Westinghouse evolved into CBS; Avco/Crosley owned WLW. Does anyone > > know of > > any others? I know Plough was a pharmaceutical company, but I'm > > using the > > term "manufacturing" broadly. > > > > -Doug > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "bernard boehm" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:25 PM > > Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound > > > > > > attorney ross's comments about the 1962 format change for wcop > > brought back > > a flood of memories. > > The so called "400 million dollar sound" was thought up at the > > Plough radio > > home office in Memphis. It was supposedly based on the theory that > > retail > > music sales were going into albums..therefore a radio station should > > be > > playing those album cuts.. > > However after a prolonged diet of "flying down to rio" by kai > > winding, > > someone must have finally realized no one was listening to their > > music. > > The highlight of the fiasco came when the execs. from Memphis came > > to boston > > to instruct the staff on how to run the format and to give then a > > taste of > > the 400 million dollar sound.. > > After the first bland number was played from the podium at the old > > Bradford > > hotel, my old friend ..now the late Dick Brown yelled "wha > > tussi"...(the > > title of the current Orlons hit record)..the silence was deafening.. > > > > > > thanks for the memories, > > > > Bernard Lawrence Boehm aka Bill Lawrence wbz, weei, wfea, worl, > > wcop, > > wtbs > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Sep 27 19:37:21 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:37:21 -0500 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound In-Reply-To: <4fc429770709271334q73a81580s24b842fd47e7bd48@mail.gmail.com> References: <001c01c8012b$68b82820$6400a8c0@floydsroom>, <030e01c8014a$47506d40$6501a8c0@pastor2>, <4fc429770709271334q73a81580s24b842fd47e7bd48@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46FBF861.30422.328375@joe.attorneyross.com> On 27 Sep 2007 at 16:34, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Plough was best known for making Coppertone. I think they also made Musterole. I seem to remember seeing the Plough, Incorporated name on a jar of Musterole back in the day and immediately making the connection. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Sep 27 19:37:20 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:37:20 -0500 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound In-Reply-To: <030e01c8014a$47506d40$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <001c01c8012b$68b82820$6400a8c0@floydsroom>, <030e01c8014a$47506d40$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <46FBF860.22717.327CCE@joe.attorneyross.com> On 27 Sep 2007 at 17:06, Doug Drown wrote: > History trivia time: Your mentioning Plough's ownership of WCOP > (which I remember: "A Radio Service of Plough, Incorporated") has made > me wonder what other major manufacturing companies used to own > broadcasting stations but have gotten out of the business. I remember "THe Plough, Incorporated stations, where you're never more than five minutes away from music." Which wasn't quite true, since they did some public service programs, which they got from WGBH-FM, on Sunday night. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From paul@derrynh.net Thu Sep 27 19:10:48 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:10:48 -0400 Subject: Sox on 890/1400 In-Reply-To: <4fc429770709271334q73a81580s24b842fd47e7bd48@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002301c8015b$a4f069d0$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036> Speaking of which..... ESPN 890 (WAMG/WLLH) apparently can air the ESPN version of Red Sox Playoff games..??? They were advertising as being so....I mean ESPN 890! (Not a national Ad.) ..was advertising as so. I had to go into Boston today and did listen to 890, where it is unlistenable (and 1400 barely so) at home. I thought that stations outside of Boston (like WTPL 107.7 Hillsborough NH) not only could but HAD to take the ESPN feed vs. the WRKO/WEEI feed once we get to the playoffs (or is it JUST the World Series, now that I think about it), but I did NOT KNOW that an ESPN affiliate IN Boston could take the feed... Does this mean 1050 New York can carry the ESPN feed of Yankees and (if they don't completely blow it) Mets even while WCBS and WFAN respectively air the local coverage? -Paul Hopfgarten -Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Vahey Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:34 PM To: Doug Drown Cc: bernard boehm; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: wcop 400 million dollar sound Plough was best known for making Coppertone. 40 years ago next month they had their best month in station history. As a NBC affilate they got to carry the 67 World Series that the Red Sox were in. From paul@derrynh.net Thu Sep 27 19:15:29 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:15:29 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound In-Reply-To: <46FBF861.30422.328375@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <002401c8015c$4c215110$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036> What the heck is/was "Musterole"? Sounds disgusting, whatever it was.... I (though a little younger) remember Plough Inc as the owner of WCOP, but only as a Country station as that was what my father listened to (yuck) when I was a kid... I do remember Bill Lawrence on 590 WEEI, the station I would have identified him with the most... -Paul Hopfgarten -Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of A. Joseph Ross Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 7:37 PM To: Kevin Vahey Cc: bernard boehm; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: wcop 400 million dollar sound On 27 Sep 2007 at 16:34, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Plough was best known for making Coppertone. I think they also made Musterole. I seem to remember seeing the Plough, Incorporated name on a jar of Musterole back in the day and immediately making the connection. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Sep 27 19:40:50 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:40:50 -0400 Subject: Sox on 890/1400 In-Reply-To: <002301c8015b$a4f069d0$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036> References: <4fc429770709271334q73a81580s24b842fd47e7bd48@mail.gmail.com> <002301c8015b$a4f069d0$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: <4fc429770709271640o51a06b9ld2e93a93d419f814@mail.gmail.com> No blackout on ESPN during playoffs. Entercom can feed first 2 rounds but Series is Boston only as the Sox network will get ESPN. BTW an indication on how Entercom feels about Geffner not once does he appear in the open or close but Obie does. Good news however as Obie is slated for 135 games in 2008 On 9/27/07, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > Speaking of which..... > > ESPN 890 (WAMG/WLLH) apparently can air the ESPN version of Red Sox Playoff > games..??? They were advertising as being so....I mean ESPN 890! (Not a > national Ad.) ..was advertising as so. > > I had to go into Boston today and did listen to 890, where it is > unlistenable (and 1400 barely so) at home. > > I thought that stations outside of Boston (like WTPL 107.7 Hillsborough NH) > not only could but HAD to take the ESPN feed vs. the WRKO/WEEI feed once we > get to the playoffs (or is it JUST the World Series, now that I think about > it), but I did NOT KNOW that an ESPN affiliate IN Boston could take the > feed... > > Does this mean 1050 New York can carry the ESPN feed of Yankees and (if they > don't completely blow it) Mets even while WCBS and WFAN respectively air the > local coverage? > > -Paul Hopfgarten > -Derry NH > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Kevin Vahey > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:34 PM > To: Doug Drown > Cc: bernard boehm; boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: wcop 400 million dollar sound > > Plough was best known for making Coppertone. > > 40 years ago next month they had their best month in station history. As a > NBC affilate they got to carry the 67 World Series that the Red Sox were in. > > From w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com Thu Sep 27 20:08:03 2007 From: w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com (Jon Maguire) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:08:03 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound In-Reply-To: <46FBF860.22717.327CCE@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <001c01c8012b$68b82820$6400a8c0@floydsroom>, <030e01c8014a$47506d40$6501a8c0@pastor2> <46FBF860.22717.327CCE@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <46FC45E3.8080505@tampabay.rr.com> I used to play the same old tapes on the Ampex between midnight and 6am when I worked there 1970-75. Over and over, I had them memorized!! Regards, Jon Maguire Sunny downtown Florida, 8 miles from the twin towers of 620 :-) A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 27 Sep 2007 at 17:06, Doug Drown wrote: > > >> History trivia time: Your mentioning Plough's ownership of WCOP >> (which I remember: "A Radio Service of Plough, Incorporated") has made >> me wonder what other major manufacturing companies used to own >> broadcasting stations but have gotten out of the business. >> > > I remember "THe Plough, Incorporated stations, where you're never > more than five minutes away from music." > > Which wasn't quite true, since they did some public service programs, > which they got from WGBH-FM, on Sunday night. > > From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Sep 27 23:24:50 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 23:24:50 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound References: <002401c8015c$4c215110$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: <035901c8017f$2205d0e0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <> Musterole is a mustard rub used for coughs as well as aching joints and muscles . . . sort of the over-the-counter equivalent of an old-fashioned mustard plaster. As far as I know, Schering-Plough still makes the stuff. I've never used it, but my mother did subject me to a mustard plaster once. Once was enough. -Doug From cohasset@frontiernet.net Thu Sep 27 22:36:17 2007 From: cohasset@frontiernet.net (Cohasset / Hippisley) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:36:17 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound In-Reply-To: <001c01c8012b$68b82820$6400a8c0@floydsroom> References: <001c01c8012b$68b82820$6400a8c0@floydsroom> Message-ID: <001c01c80178$58e4c4b0$0aae4e10$@net> -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of bernard boehm Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:26 PM To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound attorney ross's comments about the 1962 format change for wcop brought back a flood of memories....thanks for the memories, Bernard Lawrence Boehm aka Bill Lawrence wbz, weei, wfea, worl, wcop, wtbs Talk about "a flood of memories", Bernie....Haven't seen or heard your name in decades, and didn't realize you were lurking here. I will never forget your many contributions to RnRMT on WTBS in the 60s... George (Bud) Hippisley From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Thu Sep 27 23:19:15 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WGAN----FM? Message-ID: <674388.86370.qm@web55301.mail.re4.yahoo.com> What station used to be WGAN-FM? What is it now? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Sep 27 23:26:08 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 23:26:08 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound In-Reply-To: <002401c8015c$4c215110$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036> References: <002401c8015c$4c215110$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: <46FC7450.4030902@ttlc.net> Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > What the heck is/was "Musterole"? Sounds disgusting, whatever it > was.... Musterole was an OTC medication from eons ago. Originally from the Musterole company in Cleveland. Used as a poultice. Ingredients include "oil, mustard, camphor, menthol and methyl salicylate" Sorta like Vicks VapoRub plus oil & mustard. From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Sep 28 00:44:43 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:44:43 -0400 Subject: WGAN----FM? References: <674388.86370.qm@web55301.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <037d01c8018a$4a394140$6501a8c0@pastor2> The old WGAN-FM 102.9, a "beautiful music" station, is now WBLM. There's a long story there; I'll make it short: when Guy Gannett Communications sold WGAN and WGAN-FM, the purchaser was Taylor Communications, which I think was another Portland-based outfit. The FM station was rechristened WTHT and, if memory serves, the format was changed to Top 40 rock (this was in the waning days of such). WBLM up in Lewiston, which was at 107.5 mHz with a weaker signal than WTHT's 100,000-watt blast, was anxious to move into the Portland market. It was (and still is) a progressive rock station and had a sizeable and loyal listenership. WBLM and WTHT worked out a trade. WBLM moved to Portland and to 102.9; WTHT moved to 107.5 and remained in Portland. It ultimately became a country station. That's the tale in a nutshell; I believe I've given it pretty accurately. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald A." To: "BRI" Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:19 PM Subject: WGAN----FM? > > What station used to be WGAN-FM? > > What is it now? > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. > http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Sep 28 01:24:47 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:24:47 -0500 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound In-Reply-To: <035901c8017f$2205d0e0$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <002401c8015c$4c215110$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036>, <035901c8017f$2205d0e0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <46FC49CF.2791.1709954@joe.attorneyross.com> On 27 Sep 2007 at 23:24, Doug Drown wrote: > Musterole is a mustard rub used for coughs as well as aching joints > and muscles . . . sort of the over-the-counter equivalent of an > old-fashioned mustard plaster. As far as I know, Schering-Plough > still makes the stuff. I've never used it, but my mother did subject > me to a mustard plaster once. Once was enough. It causes a strong burning sensation where it is applied. Supposedly this brings blood supply to the area, which promotes healing. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Sep 28 00:37:07 2007 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:37:07 -0400 Subject: WGAN----FM? In-Reply-To: <037d01c8018a$4a394140$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <674388.86370.qm@web55301.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <037d01c8018a$4a394140$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <18172.34035.967819.204444@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > WBLM and WTHT worked out a trade. WBLM moved to Portland and to > 102.9; WTHT moved to 107.5 and remained in Portland. It ultimately > became a country station. That's the tale in a nutshell; I believe > I've given it pretty accurately. Except that WTHT remained (and its descendant remains, to this day) a Lewiston-licensed station. And they did eventually find a way to move 107.5 across the zone boundary into class-C-land; it's now a class-C1 with 100 kW ERP from 283 m AAT. I believe that station could have been a class-C when it was originally built, had the owners put the transmitter on the proper side of the line. (It would be advantageous to do so, even without an increase in power, because class-C* stations get stronger protection than class-B* stations.) That zone boundary in Maine is a real oddity. It runs right in between Portland and Lewiston, then between Augusta and Waterville (92.3 is a B, 98.5 is a C1), and passes right by Bangor (88.5 and 106.5 are Cs, 107.3 Old Town is a C2, and all the rest are Bs) before heading out to sea somewhere between MDI and Calais. In the other direction, Concord, N.H. is south of the line and Laconia is north, but there's not a whole lot of population in between and pretty much everything in the Lakes Region is an A except for WLNH-FM. The line in Vermont runs not far south of US 4 (Rutland has C2s, mostly, although I'm fairly sure at least one of WJJR and WZRT used not to be, but WEQX in Manchester is a B) and then heads through the Adirondacks to the Canadian border. -GAWollman From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Sep 27 22:20:52 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:20:52 -0400 Subject: WJIB problems? Message-ID: <4fc429770709271920v53f7aa21n79d37f2350922b12@mail.gmail.com> Thursday night in Harvard Sq WJIB is losing the battle with Toronto. They are much weaker tonight than usual. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri Sep 28 06:43:56 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:43:56 -0400 Subject: WGAN----FM? In-Reply-To: <037d01c8018a$4a394140$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <674388.86370.qm@web55301.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <037d01c8018a$4a394140$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Drown > The old WGAN-FM 102.9, a "beautiful music" station, is now WBLM. > There's a > long story there; I'll make it short: when Guy Gannett > Communications sold > WGAN and WGAN-FM, the purchaser was Taylor Communications, which I > think was > another Portland-based outfit. The FM station was rechristened > WTHT and, if > memory serves, the format was changed to Top 40 rock (this was in > the waning > days of such). WBLM up in Lewiston, which was at 107.5 mHz with a > weakersignal than WTHT's 100,000-watt blast, was anxious to move > into the Portland > market. It was (and still is) a progressive rock station and had > a sizeable > and loyal listenership. WBLM and WTHT worked out a trade. WBLM > moved to > Portland and to 102.9; WTHT moved to 107.5 and remained in > Portland. It > ultimately became a country station. That's the tale in a > nutshell; I > believe I've given it pretty accurately. > > -Doug > 102.9 was bought by Taylor Communications (of Cape Cod) along with AM 560 from Guy Gannett in 1983. Taylor ran WGAN-FM 102.9 as a CHR Flamethrower for a few years. The WTHT change came later in 1987 when Taylor sold WGAN-AM to Saga with Saga keeping the WGAN call letters for the AM. along the way, WTHT was CHR, then Oldies then Country. then came the frequency flip with Fuller-Jeffries for 107.5 moving WBLM to 102.9 and WTHT (country - still is - now Nassau's The Wolf) shifting to 107.5 - - Chuck (changed the Shulke reels on WGAN-FM too many times to count) Igo From paul@derrynh.net Fri Sep 28 08:27:58 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:27:58 -0400 Subject: WGAN----FM? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003801c801cb$01542620$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036> While perhaps Nassau will (or has) shifted the "Wolf" Country to 107.5, and I don't believe they have yet.... 107.5, at least for a while is WFNK "Frank FM" playing Classic Rock....(and the Nassau site as of today lists 107.5 as Frank FM) -Paul Hopfgarten -Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 6:44 AM To: Doug Drown Cc: BRI; Donald A. Subject: Re: WGAN----FM? ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Drown > The old WGAN-FM 102.9, a "beautiful music" station, is now WBLM. > There's a > long story there; I'll make it short: when Guy Gannett > Communications sold > WGAN and WGAN-FM, the purchaser was Taylor Communications, which I > think was > another Portland-based outfit. The FM station was rechristened > WTHT and, if > memory serves, the format was changed to Top 40 rock (this was in > the waning > days of such). WBLM up in Lewiston, which was at 107.5 mHz with a > weakersignal than WTHT's 100,000-watt blast, was anxious to move > into the Portland > market. It was (and still is) a progressive rock station and had > a sizeable > and loyal listenership. WBLM and WTHT worked out a trade. WBLM > moved to > Portland and to 102.9; WTHT moved to 107.5 and remained in > Portland. It > ultimately became a country station. That's the tale in a > nutshell; I > believe I've given it pretty accurately. > > -Doug > 102.9 was bought by Taylor Communications (of Cape Cod) along with AM 560 from Guy Gannett in 1983. Taylor ran WGAN-FM 102.9 as a CHR Flamethrower for a few years. The WTHT change came later in 1987 when Taylor sold WGAN-AM to Saga with Saga keeping the WGAN call letters for the AM. along the way, WTHT was CHR, then Oldies then Country. then came the frequency flip with Fuller-Jeffries for 107.5 moving WBLM to 102.9 and WTHT (country - still is - now Nassau's The Wolf) shifting to 107.5 - - Chuck (changed the Shulke reels on WGAN-FM too many times to count) Igo From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri Sep 28 08:26:24 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:26:24 -0400 Subject: WGAN----FM? In-Reply-To: <003801c801cb$01542620$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036> References: <003801c801cb$01542620$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: my bad... WTHT was country at 107.5. then Nassau made 107.5 Frank and moved the Wolf to the old Kiss-Fm 99.9 (WWAV/WKZS) frequency. mea culpa. it's foggy. Chuck Igo ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Hopfgarten Date: Friday, September 28, 2007 8:24 am Subject: RE: WGAN----FM? To: chuckigo@maine.rr.com, 'Doug Drown' Cc: 'BRI' , "'Donald A.'" > While perhaps Nassau will (or has) shifted the "Wolf" Country to > 107.5, and > I don't believe they have yet.... > > 107.5, at least for a while is WFNK "Frank FM" playing Classic > Rock....(andthe Nassau site as of today lists 107.5 as Frank FM) > > -Paul Hopfgarten > -Derry NH From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Sep 28 09:31:35 2007 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:31:35 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound In-Reply-To: <46FC7450.4030902@ttlc.net> References: <002401c8015c$4c215110$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036> <46FC7450.4030902@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <46FD0237.4040005@cssinc.com> Roger Kirk wrote: > Paul Hopfgarten wrote: >> What the heck is/was "Musterole"? Sounds disgusting, whatever it >> was.... > > Musterole was an OTC medication from eons ago. Originally from the > Musterole company in Cleveland. Used as a poultice. Ingredients > include "oil, mustard, camphor, menthol and methyl salicylate" Sorta > like Vicks VapoRub plus oil & mustard. > Great. Its a poultice and a condiment! Two great uses in one! Brian From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Sep 28 09:33:51 2007 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:33:51 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound In-Reply-To: <46FC49CF.2791.1709954@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <002401c8015c$4c215110$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036>, <035901c8017f$2205d0e0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <46FC49CF.2791.1709954@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <46FD02BF.9070005@cssinc.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > It causes a strong burning sensation where it is applied. Supposedly > this brings blood supply to the area, which promotes healing. > > Sounds like a couple of dates that I had when I was single. Thank God for modern anti-biotics! Brian From nostaticatall@charter.net Fri Sep 28 11:01:11 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:01:11 -0400 Subject: wcop 400 million dollar sound In-Reply-To: <46FD0237.4040005@cssinc.com> References: <002401c8015c$4c215110$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036> <46FC7450.4030902@ttlc.net> <46FD0237.4040005@cssinc.com> Message-ID: <84e495935183aeed4ba662bbcd147ced@charter.net> It's like that old Saturday Night Live skit with Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtin....It's a floor wax...AND a dessert topping! On Sep 28, 2007, at 9:31 AM, Brian Vita wrote: > Roger Kirk wrote: >> Paul Hopfgarten wrote: >>> What the heck is/was "Musterole"? Sounds disgusting, whatever it >>> was.... >> >> Musterole was an OTC medication from eons ago. Originally from the >> Musterole company in Cleveland. Used as a poultice. Ingredients >> include "oil, mustard, camphor, menthol and methyl salicylate" Sorta >> like Vicks VapoRub plus oil & mustard. >> > Great. Its a poultice and a condiment! Two great uses in one! > > Brian > From andysoule@gmail.com Fri Sep 28 09:38:10 2007 From: andysoule@gmail.com (Andy Soule) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:38:10 -0400 Subject: WGAN----FM? References: <674388.86370.qm@web55301.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <037d01c8018a$4a394140$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <00ed01c801d4$d07f5740$4d0afea9@corp.google.com> Thats it in a nutshell. There was a pile of cash that went to Taylor as part of the deal. WTHT calls moved to 99.9 continuing as the Wolf, when Nassau put Frank on 107.5. Dave Winsor must be getting up there now as one of the longest running morning shows in southern maine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: "Donald A." ; "BRI" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 12:44 AM Subject: Re: WGAN----FM? > The old WGAN-FM 102.9, a "beautiful music" station, is now WBLM. There's > a > long story there; I'll make it short: when Guy Gannett Communications sold > WGAN and WGAN-FM, the purchaser was Taylor Communications, which I think > was > another Portland-based outfit. The FM station was rechristened WTHT and, > if > memory serves, the format was changed to Top 40 rock (this was in the > waning > days of such). WBLM up in Lewiston, which was at 107.5 mHz with a weaker > signal than WTHT's 100,000-watt blast, was anxious to move into the > Portland > market. It was (and still is) a progressive rock station and had a > sizeable > and loyal listenership. WBLM and WTHT worked out a trade. WBLM moved to > Portland and to 102.9; WTHT moved to 107.5 and remained in Portland. It > ultimately became a country station. That's the tale in a nutshell; I > believe I've given it pretty accurately. > > -Doug > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald A." > To: "BRI" > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:19 PM > Subject: WGAN----FM? > > >> >> What station used to be WGAN-FM? >> >> What is it now? >> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ >> Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. >> http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html > > > From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Sep 28 11:58:10 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:58:10 -0500 Subject: WJIB problems? Message-ID: <20070928155810.61E5149B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> A friend of mine visiting from Ohio noticed the same thing--and you say Harvard Square? About a mile and a half down Concord Ave./Garden St. from 'JIB acc. to Google maps...losing the battle to Toronto's 740 even in Camb.! From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 28 12:19:19 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:19:19 -0400 Subject: WJIB problems? In-Reply-To: <20070928155810.61E5149B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070928155810.61E5149B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770709280919q51d8a082i951361f184fcbe6b@mail.gmail.com> Those mighty 5 watts usually cover Cambridge well.....something isn't right with them On 9/28/07, Bob Nelson wrote: > > A friend of mine visiting from Ohio noticed the same thing--and you say > Harvard Square? > About a mile and a half down Concord Ave./Garden St. from 'JIB acc. to > Google maps...losing > the battle to Toronto's 740 even in Camb.! > > From kwillcox@wnsh.com Fri Sep 28 14:22:35 2007 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (Keating Willcox) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:22:35 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <200709281822.l8SIMoUR067570@tsornin.bostonradio.org> As regards liniment, has anyone on the list used atomic balm, a super strong version of Bengay... Also, our upgrade is almost complete, thanks to great weather, our official date for going live at high power is October 17. Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Beverly Women's Talk Radio By Women - For Women kwillcox@wnsh.com www.wnsh.com (617) 262-1119 FAX 978-468-1954 transmitter Beverly, MA Main Studio: 31 Woodbury Street South Hamilton, MA 01982 From me@billoneill.us Fri Sep 28 14:23:38 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:23:38 -0400 Subject: In-Reply-To: <200709281822.l8SIMoUR067570@tsornin.bostonradio.org> References: <200709281822.l8SIMoUR067570@tsornin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: <46FD46AA.60903@billoneill.us> Keating Willcox wrote: > As regards liniment, has anyone on the list used atomic balm, a super > strong version of Bengay... > Only on a horse. Or, is this a radio question that I just infarcted? Long week. Liniment & Radio. Red hot. Bill O'Neill From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 28 14:41:58 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:41:58 -0400 Subject: att Donna - Fred Cusick book Message-ID: <4fc429770709281141k7ac6baeax1cc21338bc971c65@mail.gmail.com> I just finished rereading a book that came out last year by long time Boston sports announcer Fred Cusick Fred is 89 now but his mind is still sharp as ever and in fact was doing Cape Cod League baseball games this summer on www.wbz1030.com A major part of the book is retelling his early career starting at WOCB in West Yarmouth then on to Brockton, WCOP and then his big break at WVOM (1600) Of course Fred also worked at WEEI, WHDH and WKBG-TV along with his days at WSBK. This is a person Donna needs to sit down with. He can be contacted at http://www.fredcusick.com/ From stephanie@gordsven.com Fri Sep 28 14:57:48 2007 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WJIB problems? In-Reply-To: <4fc429770709280919q51d8a082i951361f184fcbe6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070928155810.61E5149B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> <4fc429770709280919q51d8a082i951361f184fcbe6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <12990.12.37.144.130.1191005868.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> On Fri, September 28, 2007 12:19, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Those mighty 5 watts usually cover Cambridge well.....something isn't > right with them Five watts also throws out quite a signal over Boston proper. I've even heard the station all the way up to Lynn, at night. Stephanie Weil New York City, USA From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 28 15:18:48 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:18:48 -0400 Subject: Frank from Gloucester Message-ID: <4fc429770709281218r17dc64e9te6ef4b8831f30e79@mail.gmail.com> I guess some people do look exactly as one pictures them. http://rope.weei-am.fimc.net/photos/2006.02.28.whiney2/images/IMG_2109_jpg.jpg If he is not the most annoying caller in the history of Boston radio he has to be close From wayne@vacationdreams.org Fri Sep 28 15:30:56 2007 From: wayne@vacationdreams.org (wayne) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:30:56 -0400 Subject: Frank from Gloucester Message-ID: <46fd5670.304.3dab.1581706123@vacationdreams.org> Explain to me PulEEASE how Frank from Gloucester had that beautiful woman on his arm.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Frank from Gloucester Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:18:48 -0400 >I guess some people do look exactly as one pictures them. > >http://rope.weei-am.fimc.net/photos/2006.02.28.whiney2/images/IMG_2109_jpg.jpg > >If he is not the most annoying caller in the history of >Boston radio he has to be close ______________________________________________ The dog is hairy. The cheese is old and moldy. The pearl is in the river. And above all, please don?t wuh-eez the jah-ooz From ssmyth@psualum.com Fri Sep 28 15:50:22 2007 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Frank from Gloucester In-Reply-To: <4fc429770709281218r17dc64e9te6ef4b8831f30e79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <539800.11616.qm@web58305.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: > If he is not the most annoying caller in the history of Boston radio > he has to be close Butch from the Cape would like to speak with you. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From markwats@comcast.net Fri Sep 28 19:47:10 2007 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:47:10 -0400 Subject: FCC Approves WCAP Sale Message-ID: <005301c80229$e356cb50$738d764c@Mark> Friday's Lowell Sun reports that the FCC has approved the sale of WCAP to Merrimack Valley Radio LLC. Transfer of the station from Maurice Cohen is expected to take place within "30-ish days" once a closing date with Cohen is set up according to Clark Smidt, the majority owner of Merrimack Valley Radio LLC. Link to article in the Sun: http://www.lowellsun.com/business/ci_7027494 Mark Watson From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 28 16:40:51 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:40:51 -0400 Subject: Frank from Gloucester In-Reply-To: <539800.11616.qm@web58305.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <4fc429770709281218r17dc64e9te6ef4b8831f30e79@mail.gmail.com> <539800.11616.qm@web58305.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770709281340s77145971y1dd311a65b7f96a2@mail.gmail.com> Butch was annoying but he was funny Frank obviously has an inside number to call...... Angry Bill I can take in small doses. Same goes for Allison from Cambridge. On 9/28/07, Sean Smyth wrote: > > Kevin Vahey wrote: > > If he is not the most annoying caller in the history of Boston radio > > he has to be close > > Butch from the Cape would like to speak with you. > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all > the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Sep 28 20:25:38 2007 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:25:38 -0400 Subject: Frank from Gloucester In-Reply-To: <46fd5670.304.3dab.1581706123@vacationdreams.org> Message-ID: <01d501c8022f$42e96690$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > Explain to me PulEEASE how Frank from Gloucester had that > beautiful woman on his arm.... She's probably from the Foxy Lady, which Frank talks about frequently during his calls to the big show. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Sep 28 21:17:05 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:17:05 -0400 Subject: att Donna - Fred Cusick book In-Reply-To: <4fc429770709281141k7ac6baeax1cc21338bc971c65@mail.gmail.co m> References: <4fc429770709281141k7ac6baeax1cc21338bc971c65@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070929011745.7BF401B4004@relay4.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> And kevin wrote-- >Of course Fred also worked at WEEI, WHDH and WKBG-TV along with his >days at WSBK. > >This is a person Donna needs to sit down with. I did sit down with him a while back, and I think I upset him because I paid for his lunch-- in his world, women didn't take men to lunch! I will be seeing him in a couple of weeks-- I absolutely admire him and have many clippings about his distinguished career. I have talked with Garrett a couple of times about up-dating some things on the Boston Radio Archives, and I'd love to do a tribute page to some of the legends of Boston radio. From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 28 21:42:08 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:42:08 -0400 Subject: att Donna - Fred Cusick book In-Reply-To: <20070929011745.7BF401B4004@relay4.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> References: <4fc429770709281141k7ac6baeax1cc21338bc971c65@mail.gmail.com> <20070929011745.7BF401B4004@relay4.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770709281842i4196a6dcj77ef27409819a80c@mail.gmail.com> Fred is old school Brighton Irish for sure. While best known for hockey he also had a stint writing editorials for WEEI. His memories of Boston radio in the 30'sare vivid. From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 28 17:02:20 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:02:20 -0400 Subject: Frank from Gloucester In-Reply-To: <539800.11616.qm@web58305.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <4fc429770709281218r17dc64e9te6ef4b8831f30e79@mail.gmail.com> <539800.11616.qm@web58305.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770709281402y745d81bes3e162c063c6fbfa8@mail.gmail.com> I will take an educated guess his date works at the Foxy. From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Sep 29 03:21:13 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:21:13 -0500 Subject: A Bronx cheer to WRKO Message-ID: <20070929072113.6F17583BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> The Sox won tonight to bring the magic number down to one, and the players went into the clubhouse to watch the end of the Orioles-Yankees game. In the 9th inning, ace Mariano Rivera gives up three runs and the O's tie it, 9-6 (bases clearing triple)...it goes into extra innings and the O's win it in the 10th on a squeeze play (you could almost hear Phil Rizzuto--"and it's bunted, bunted down the third base line, the suicide squeeze is on! It's gonna be close, here's the throw, here's the play at the plate--holy cow I think he's gonna make it!") Yankees lose, theeeeeeeeee Yankees lose and there's pandemonium on the field at Fenway where the Sox have just won the AL East division title for the first time since 1995! But WRKO is not there to share the joy. Instead a Bronx born talk host, Michael Savage, is on. Yes, yes, WEEI is there to carry the festivities and interviews...their sister station. Joe C and Geffner are around to do interviews and dodge the champagne. Yup, it was on WEEI but where was the Red Sox flagship station? (Maybe they figured there was no way the Orioles could come back, etc. Maybe...) (At work, I listened to the Sox game and then tuned to WEEI and heard them say the O's had the bases loaded in the 9th. I had to strain to pick up WCBS--while the signal would come in fine outside, it was tough at work due to machinery. I could barely hear John Sterling say what had happened, etc. I did listen to the celebration on WEEI, which does come in at work but there's a lot of static due to machinery. Too bad it wasn't on WRKO. A Bronx cheer to 680. And not for the first time. The Sox haven't won the AL East in 12 years. Where was WRKO? From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Sep 29 10:44:59 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:44:59 -0400 Subject: A Bronx cheer to WRKO In-Reply-To: <20070929072113.6F17583BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070929072113.6F17583BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770709290744u66c57797xf406c9b054c5fe29@mail.gmail.com> I would wager 99% of the people who were listening to the Sox last night turned off WRKO the second Savage came on. Keep in mind the Red Sox wrap up show is on WEEI anyhow after every game ( except Sunday during football season when it is on WRKO ) This split network was just a flawed idea from Day 1 and it cost WRKO Howie Carr. They may think they have him signed until 2012 but at this point it is doubtful he will ever enter the New Balance Building again. On 9/29/07, Bob Nelson wrote: But > WRKO is not there to share the joy. Instead a Bronx born talk host, Michael > Savage, is on. From brouder@juno.com Sat Sep 29 11:00:51 2007 From: brouder@juno.com (brouder@juno.com) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:00:51 GMT Subject: WFEA 75th Anniversary special Message-ID: <20070929.110051.8703.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> For those within earshot of Manchester, WFEA's hour-long anniversary special airs today (Saturday) at noon, and repeats Sunday night at 7:00. It's cram full of as many WFEA airchecks as I could find dating back to 1937! Ed Brouder (AM 1370 WFEA news editor) Man From Mars Productions Manchester, NH _____________________________________________________________ Vonage - Official Site $24.99/mo. for unlimited local and long distance calls! http://3rdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/JKFkuJNzbJCv003fu5lgirzhWnKwTppio4WCAoQ4IFUJEvG8nD8YjT/ From paul@derrynh.net Sat Sep 29 13:04:18 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:04:18 -0400 Subject: WFEA 75th Anniversary special In-Reply-To: <20070929.110051.8703.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <001801c802ba$c60fb570$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036> Ed: Excellent job! I just finished listening to the retrospective, learned a few fun tidbits about WFEA as well -Paul Hopfgarten -Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of brouder@juno.com Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:01 AM To: boston-radio-interest@tsornin.bostonradio.org Subject: WFEA 75th Anniversary special For those within earshot of Manchester, WFEA's hour-long anniversary special airs today (Saturday) at noon, and repeats Sunday night at 7:00. It's cram full of as many WFEA airchecks as I could find dating back to 1937! Ed Brouder (AM 1370 WFEA news editor) Man From Mars Productions Manchester, NH _____________________________________________________________ Vonage - Official Site $24.99/mo. for unlimited local and long distance calls! http://3rdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/JKFkuJNzbJCv003fu5lgirzhWnKwTppio4 WCAoQ4IFUJEvG8nD8YjT/ From m_carney@yahoo.com Sat Sep 29 14:40:03 2007 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Bianca De La Garza Message-ID: <295060.58961.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I didn't see NewsCenter 5 last night, but my brother told me he saw Bianca De La Garza on WCVB last night. Anyone know if she's just filling in or has she been hired permanently? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Sep 29 14:51:32 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:51:32 -0400 Subject: Bianca De La Garza In-Reply-To: <295060.58961.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <295060.58961.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008d01c802c9$c14b2ab0$43e18010$@net> According to her Wiki, she is freelancing there. I saw her the other night too and I was surprised to see her there. Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Carney Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 2:40 PM To: Boston Radio Group Subject: Bianca De La Garza I didn't see NewsCenter 5 last night, but my brother told me he saw Bianca De La Garza on WCVB last night. Anyone know if she's just filling in or has she been hired permanently? ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Sep 29 14:58:49 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:58:49 -0400 Subject: Bianca De La Garza In-Reply-To: <008d01c802c9$c14b2ab0$43e18010$@net> References: <295060.58961.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <008d01c802c9$c14b2ab0$43e18010$@net> Message-ID: <20070929185930.435D9DB94@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 02:51 PM 9/29/2007, radiotony wrote: >According to her Wiki, she is freelancing there. I saw her the other night >too and I was surprised to see her there. She's been co-anchoring at 11 pm all the past week, I believe. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Sep 29 15:00:24 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:00:24 -0400 Subject: WFEA 75th Anniversary special References: <20070929.110051.8703.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <006201c802cb$1a0ceb10$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2> > For those within earshot of Manchester, WFEA's hour-long anniversary > special airs today (Saturday) at noon, and repeats Sunday night at 7:00.< It appears WFEA doesn't stream? Would be interested in hearing this "on demand" as I am not in earshot. Is there a recorded file available? From lglavin@mail.com Sat Sep 29 15:27:06 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:27:06 -0500 Subject: Strange Boston Globe Headline: Intentional Or Coincidental? Message-ID: <20070929192706.8C83A16427A@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> I would not normally read a review of a rock or pop performance in the Globe, but today (Sept 29) such a review appeared with an eye-catching headline. (In fact, I did not read the whole review, just the first paragraph). Apparently there's a group called "Iron and Wine" (does this wine go well with spinach?) whose frontman goes by the moniker Sam Beam. So the Globe headline writer, seeing this, decided to write this headline over the review: "Beam tilts sound of Iron and Wine". Yikes...was this healine writer a radio geek purposely employing a pun on the term for engineering an FM or TV signal so that a prepoderance of the emitted horizontal wave is directed (usually) below the horizontal plane, or was it a strange coincidence? Here I'll enter the URL, knowing that Globe links disappear comparatively quickly: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/09/29/beam_tilts_sound_of_iron_and_wine/ -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Sep 30 00:05:43 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:05:43 -0400 Subject: Strange Boston Globe Headline: Intentional Or Coincidental? References: <20070929192706.8C83A16427A@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <002301c80317$2dcdc3d0$2defa644@SatU205S5044> For the heck of it, I googled "beam tilt." True enough, most of the references are to the vertical radiation patterns of broadcast (radio AND TV) transmitting antennas. However, the term is also apparently used in connection with linear accelerators, and--most importantly, in the context of the review you saw--it seems to be the name of a San Francisco Bay-area rock group. So the reviwer may or may not have had any knowledge of the technology that underlies the term thst formed the basis for his pun. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 3:27 PM Subject: Strange Boston Globe Headline: Intentional Or Coincidental? I would not normally read a review of a rock or pop performance in the Globe, but today (Sept 29) such a review appeared with an eye-catching headline. (In fact, I did not read the whole review, just the first paragraph). Apparently there's a group called "Iron and Wine" (does this wine go well with spinach?) whose frontman goes by the moniker Sam Beam. So the Globe headline writer, seeing this, decided to write this headline over the review: "Beam tilts sound of Iron and Wine". Yikes...was this healine writer a radio geek purposely employing a pun on the term for engineering an FM or TV signal so that a prepoderance of the emitted horizontal wave is directed (usually) below the horizontal plane, or was it a strange coincidence? Here I'll enter the URL, knowing that Globe links disappear comparatively quickly: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/09/29/beam_tilts_sound_of_iron_and_wine/ -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From ssmyth@psualum.com Sun Sep 30 10:24:27 2007 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Strange Boston Globe Headline: Intentional Or Coincidental? In-Reply-To: <002301c80317$2dcdc3d0$2defa644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <586771.1036.qm@web58312.mail.re3.yahoo.com> "Dan.Strassberg" wrote: > For the heck of it, I googled "beam tilt." True enough, most of the > references are to the vertical radiation patterns of broadcast (radio > AND TV) transmitting antennas. However, the term is also apparently > used in connection with linear accelerators, and--most importantly, > in > the context of the review you saw--it seems to be the name of a San > Francisco Bay-area rock group. So the reviwer may or may not have had > any knowledge of the technology that underlies the term thst formed > the basis for his pun. First thing I thought of was Jim Beam and imbibing, i.e. tilting the glass back and adult refreshment that hits the spot. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ From attychase@comcast.net Sun Sep 30 13:38:27 2007 From: attychase@comcast.net (Robert S Chase) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 13:38:27 -0400 Subject: Strange Boston Globe Headline: Intentional Or Coincidental References: Message-ID: <003d01c80388$b7df00e0$6400a8c0@HomeOffice> A reading of the whole article reveals its gist is that Mr. Beam, frontman for the group, has changed the way the group sounds. Thus the word which in some contexts means to change direction like in "his preferences changed and tilted to the right (or left if you prefer)". I do agree the headline writer was thinking of beam tilt as in a flashlight beam but without asking him and ascertaining his Freudian fantasies we'll never know. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurence Glavin" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 3:27 PM > Subject: Strange Boston Globe Headline: Intentional Or Coincidental? > > > I would not normally read a review of a rock or pop performance in the > Globe, but > today (Sept 29) such a review appeared with an eye-catching headline. > (In fact, I > did not read the whole review, just the first paragraph). From raccoonradio@mail.com Sun Sep 30 18:22:40 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:22:40 -0500 Subject: A Bronx cheer to WRKO Message-ID: <20070930222240.BE3D683BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> "...Boston connects with the Savage nation..." And disconnects from Sox Nation "and now LIVE...Michael Savage" Well, it was live 4 hours ago... >>I would wager 99% of the people who were listening to the Sox last night turned off WRKO the second Savage came on. Keep in mind the Red Sox wrap up show is on WEEI anyhow after every game ( except Sunday during football season when it is on WRKO ) Yes--in some ways I could see WRKO being talk till 7 pm then Sox and do Sox talk on _RKO_ after the game but they figure people who know about WEEI will just tune there anyway. They might consider an announcement saying, "Tune to AM 850 to talk about tonight's game" >>This split network was just a flawed idea from Day 1 and it cost WRKO Howie Carr. They may think they have him signed until 2012 but at this point it is doubtful he will ever enter the New Balance Building again. Yes. While I did like the idea of the Sox on 'RKO since it comes in better at my workplace, I also knew there would be problems in that part of Howie's show would be pre-empted (and during spring training, much of it was). Are they sports or reg. talk? It IS possible to have a station do talk until 7 pm then switch to sports, though. What if they had found a way to put Howie on 2-6 pm? No pre-emptions for that last half hour... but I think they have to carry all 3 hours of Rush, etc\ From mike@miscon.net Sun Sep 30 19:56:38 2007 From: mike@miscon.net (mike@miscon.net) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:56:38 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: 'GBH banners In-Reply-To: <20070929192706.8C83A16427A@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070929192706.8C83A16427A@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <.24.60.119.12.1191196598.squirrel@mail.miscon.net> Hi all, I know that some of you collect this type of thing, so I thought I'd lay it out for the list... I've got about a dozen of these: http://www.flickr.com/photos/9456152@N04/1464681821/ and two or three of these: http://www.flickr.com/photos/9456152@N04/1464682297/ They're sized around 21x27 inches, and made of plastic tarp-like material; and all saved from the recycle program (hey, it's better to reuse than recycle!). If you're interested in one, let me know, and we'll work out getting them to you. and a gentle reminder that WGBH will be having their open-house in two weeks Mike From lglavin@mail.com Sun Sep 30 13:38:15 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:38:15 -0500 Subject: Strange Boston Globe Headline: Intentional Or Coincidental? Message-ID: <20070930173816.06F4616427A@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sean Smyth" >To: "Dan.Strassberg" , "Laurence Glavin" , boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Re: Strange Boston Globe Headline: Intentional Or Coincidental? >Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:24:27 -0700 (PDT) >"Dan.Strassberg" wrote: > For the heck of it, I googled "beam tilt." True enough, most of the > references are to the vertical radiation patterns of broadcast (radio > AND TV) transmitting antennas. However, the term is also apparently > used in connection with linear accelerators, and--most importantly, > in > the context of the review you saw--it seems to be the name of a San > Francisco Bay-area rock group. So the reviwer may or may not have had > any knowledge of the technology that underlies the term thst formed > the basis for his pun. >First thing I thought of was Jim Beam and imbibing, i.e. tilting the >glass back and adult refreshment that hits the spot. Of course this performer's stage name is SAM Beam...would that be a shot of bourbon with a beer chaser? Not just for breakfast anymore. -- We've Got Your Name @ www.mail.com!!! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains