From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Mar 1 00:51:26 2007 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:51:26 -0500 Subject: A Broadcast TV License May Be Worth Something After All In-Reply-To: <000f01c75ab7$a339fcf0$6701a8c0@DAS8200> References: <20070227184232.BD02E55936@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> <000f01c75ab7$a339fcf0$6701a8c0@DAS8200> Message-ID: <002701c75bc5$a728eab0$690fa8c0@BrianVaio> Sure. Without the HD pix, the overall quality isn't worth buying the more expensive set. I'm just waiting for Comcast to expand the offerrings. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 +1-978-538-7575 +1-978-538-7550 Fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou [mailto:lspin@comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:39 PM > To: 'Ric Werme'; 'Brian Vita' > Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: RE: A Broadcast TV License May Be Worth Something After All > > I was watching/recording the Chronicle Show from SDTV and saw > the weird block-pixelation, too. But I didn't think it was > all that distracting from the program content. > > I've just purchased my first HDTV this week (the Sony 40" > 720p LCD), and was planning to sign up for Comcast HD. > Should I assume from the comments here that it's still worth > the sign-up and monthly charge? > > Thanks, > -Lou > > > -----Original Message----- > Interesting, I saw exactly the same pixelation and echoing > sound early into the program. I tried stopping the DVR > recording, because I think the settop box frequently gets > overloaded and really fouls up the live rewind/fast forward > functions. (It doesn't lose them, it just takes 15 seconds to process > each.) Never heard that echoing (repeating 100+/- msec > chunks of audio content for a few seconds) before. > > I have Comcast in Boscawen NH. Either a Comcast issue or > perhaps WCVB was sending bad signal. Did any HD viewers > _not_ see the problem? > > -Ric Werme > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Mar 1 00:53:27 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:53:27 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage In-Reply-To: <380-22007232822147311@M2W021.mail2web.com> References: <380-22007232822147311@M2W021.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <45E62407.22994.536330@joe.attorneyross.com> On 28 Feb 2007 at 17:14, w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > I remember that when we lived in Portugal, in the mid to late 1950's, > my Dad would listen to WABC during the evening. He wanted to listen to > WBZ, but couldn't because of the cardiod (sp?) pattern of BZ which > sent most of the signal west. Are my recollections faulty? So if they can get US stations in Europe, howcome we don't get European stations in the US (on medium wave, that is)? I do remember hearing Trans World Radio, on Bonaire Island now and then in the Netherlands Antilles (off the coast of Venezuela) at 800 kHz. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu Mar 1 03:03:33 2007 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 03:03:33 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: FM pirates Message-ID: <16721557.1172736213181.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > From: "Jeff Lehmann" > To: , > > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:37:48 -0500 > Subject: RE: FM pirates > > The middle eastern 88.5 is actually not Cambridge. I found it on > on Sunday, it's not far from Fox 25's studios in Dedham. That sounds about right. I could tell that the Middle Eastern one is transmitting from somewhere west (or southwest) of Boston because it came in when I was in Newton, but I lose it going into Brighton heading toward Boston. It also transmits in mono. > 91.3 Bel Mizik FM has a super signal, although suffering interference > from 91.5 WMFO Medford along I-93 from the deck to Roosevelt > Circle, the signal reaches as far north as Andover/Tewksbury on I-93 Actually, Bel Mizik has been causing interference to WMFO in much of the area where their signal can normally be heard, albeit weakly such as Cambridge, Allston/Brighton, parts of Boston, and even where I live on the south facing side of a hill in Somerville (facing toward Boston, away from Medford). I've notified WMFO personnel to tell them that they should file a complaint with the FCC. > 88.5 is a pirate graveyard with the Boston Caribbean/Haitian station, > Middle Eastern (presumed R.Free Cambridge), and "Off-Coast" rock > all heard this week It's "Off-Coast" which is the decendent of "Radio Free Cambridge", not the Middle Eastern one described above. "Radio Free Cambridge" used to transmit from the Zeitgeist Gallery in Inman Square which, along with the pirate station broadcasting from there, shut down about a year ago. I've heard that one of the people involved had brought the radio equipment home, and is broadcasting as "Off-Coast Radio" from somewhere in the Somerville/Cambridge area. Eli Polonsky From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 1 05:21:29 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:21:29 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage Message-ID: <20070301102130.5F09C83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> >>So if they can get US stations in Europe, howcome we don't get European stations in the US (on medium wave, that is)? I used to pick up the BBC at what sounded like 640 kHz sometimes late on a Sunday night...on a clock radio with an analog dial btw Europe has 9 kHz spacing doesn't it? You might have something like "1248 kHz". A Walkman I recently got allowed you to set it to the 9 kHz spacing (and at one point I accidentally set it that way but after I took the battery out and tried again, it was back to 10 kHz spacing: 530, 540 et al) From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 1 05:30:10 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:30:10 -0500 Subject: Mystery Top Loaded, Low Frequency tower, in Hamilton, Mass Message-ID: <20070301103010.1B91683BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Yes, the Hamilton building in question is 227 Willow St., I believe. I used to do an all Kinks show briefly (Sunday nights at 11 pm) on WNSH around 1992 or so. Willow St. was parallel to Rt 1-A. The WNSH studios were on the second floor of a hardware warehouse. Prior to that they were indeed at Pickering Wharf (next to the Chase House). After Hamilton, they moved to one Endicott College building (on the left side of the access road) then later moved to the college union building (right side of access road, a bit further up). After that, Keating's barn I believe (just off Rt 1-A in Hamilton) and I think he has moved the studio yet again! Scott said: >>>I do believe this was where WNSH went after it lost its original Danvers site, near the mall. The studios first went to a wharf in Salem (I think it was Salem), and for a while the studios and transmitter were in that building in Hamilton. I think the studios were up on the second floor. Keating Willcox surely can take the story from there, as I believe he was the one who then moved WNSH to Endicott College, where its transmitter now sits. s From markwa1ion@aol.com Thu Mar 1 10:47:38 2007 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:47:38 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage Message-ID: <8C92A3012AF5D4E-7BC-3CFC@FWM-D31.sysops.aol.com> WBZ does better the farther north you go in Europe. In southern Europe, 1030 is more apt to be dominated by stations from Argentina and Brazil (and splatter from Spain on 1026 and Portugal on 1035). I heard WBZ OK just before local dawn in western Ireland in 1977 on a cheap Realistic 12-655 portable, but it was not as good as Boston's 850 and 1510 and maybe just comparable to 680 and 1260. Since 1510 went fulltime 50 kW, they have often been the best US station heard in western Europe. New York City 50 kW'ers sited on island (660, 880) or salt-marsh sites also do well there. Local dawn in Europe, with interference from the east fading, is the best time to hear US and Canada stations. You can most certainly receive European stations in the US, but any kind of consistent reception requires several "ducks" being lined up: * Favorable ionospheric propagation (low geomagnetic activity / A & K indices). * Good timing: local sunset here is often best and Euro-dawn (around midnight here) can also be good. * Directive receiving antenna, ideally a system forming a cardioid nulling west or southwest (see the Flag antenna info at "http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/loop/flag/index.html" for examples). A loop and whip combination with a phasing unit has been used successfully for a cardioid-producing set-up that can be operated on top of a stationary vehicle at optimum receiving sites (an activity known as "DXpeditioning"). * Communications-type receiver with several narrow IF bandwidths from 1.8 to 4 kHz - examples: Drake R8B, AOR 7030+, Icom R75, WinRadio G313i * Good location: seashore is best, a hilltop or an open marshy area can do reasonably well inland; a sufficient separation from transmitters, power lines, other potential interference sources is advised. Some hill or building blockage in directions you DON'T want to hear (e.g. west) can also help in reducing interference. * A bit of knowledge on what the targets are helps. The European-African Medium Wave Guide ("http://go.to/emwg") is pretty much the "bible" on the subject and the World Radio-TV Handbook, available in most bookshops, is also very useful. Membership in a club like the National Radio Club ("http://www.nrcdxas.org/") is just the thing for folks who take this aspect of radio seriously. A local group, the Boston Area DXers, meets in Stoneham once a month; see "http://www.naswa.net/badx/index.htm". The group's interests include AM, FM, shortwave listening, and ham radio. One must remember that European stations transmit on channels that are a multiple of 9 kHz, rather than 10 kHz. In some cases the separation is only 1 kHz (like UK on 1089 vs. WBAL on 1090), hence the need for tight filters in receivers. Occasionally a transatlantic signal will get strong enough to overwhelm a domestic on a simple radio. More than a few times on the car radio I've heard Algeria - 549 taking out the 550's and Saudi Arabia - 1521 destroying WIZZ/WWKB-1520 when going down Wharf Road onto Granite Pier in Rockport around sundown. For sample reports showing the typical European, African, and Middle Eastern signals that have been received in this area, see "http://home.comcast.net/~dx_lab/dx_clams_2005.htm" and "http://www.naswa.net/badx/dxclams.htm". Some audio clips are available from links at "http://home.comcast.net/~markwa1ion/dx_audio.htm". You might be surprised at how loud some of the transatlantic AM's come in here in Massachusetts, even at inland sites such as Sudbury. Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA << From: joe@attorneyross.com To: w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage Date: On 28 Feb 2007 at 17:14, w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > I remember that when we lived in Portugal, in the mid to late 1950's, > my Dad would listen to WABC during the evening. He wanted to listen to > WBZ, but couldn't because of the cardiod (sp?) pattern of BZ which > sent most of the signal west. Are my recollections faulty? So if they can get US stations in Europe, howcome we don't get European stations in the US (on medium wave, that is)? >> ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From readaaron@friedbagels.com Thu Mar 1 11:20:07 2007 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:20:07 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? Message-ID: <45E6FD37.8010609@friedbagels.com> Does anyone know who, besides WJIB 740, still broadcasts in AM Stereo in the Boston area? -- -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02446-2204 From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Mar 1 13:38:45 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:38:45 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? References: <45E6FD37.8010609@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <001b01c75c30$d9c35030$6501a8c0@pastor2> Doesn't WBZ? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Read" To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: AM Stereo? > Does anyone know who, besides WJIB 740, still broadcasts in AM Stereo in > the Boston area? > > -- > > > -------------------------- > Aaron Read > readaaron@friedbagels.com > Boston, MA 02446-2204 > > > > From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Mar 1 14:49:20 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:49:20 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? In-Reply-To: <001b01c75c30$d9c35030$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <45E6FD37.8010609@friedbagels.com> <001b01c75c30$d9c35030$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <17895.11840.986809.792479@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Doesn't WBZ? Not since they went IBOC -- the two are incompatible. The nearest station other than WJIB that I know for certain still runs AM stereo (at least as of last Christmas) is WICC. -GAWollman From mailinglists2005@hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 15:07:28 2007 From: mailinglists2005@hotmail.com (Mike Malone) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:07:28 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage In-Reply-To: <20070301102130.5F09C83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: I was in Germany last over Christmas and can confirm the BBC broadcasts at 648 kHz. As a side note years ago (circa 1985) when I was a newscaster on WTAG, I seem to remember the station getting a reception report along with an air check of the station being received somewhere in the UK. -Mike >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: "A. Joseph Ross" , "BostonRadio Mailing >List" >Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:21:29 -0500 > > >>So if they can get US stations in Europe, howcome we don't get >European stations in the US (on medium wave, that is)? > >I used to pick up the BBC at what sounded like 640 kHz sometimes late >on a Sunday night...on a clock radio with an analog dial > >btw Europe has 9 kHz spacing doesn't it? You might have something like >"1248 kHz". A Walkman I recently got allowed you to set it to the >9 kHz spacing (and at one point I accidentally set it that way >but after I took the battery out and tried again, it was back >to 10 kHz spacing: 530, 540 et al) > > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft? Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Mar 1 16:08:15 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:08:15 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000d01c75c45$c014b5b0$7f151bac@WHDHXP237> -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Malone Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:07 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage I was in Germany last over Christmas and can confirm the BBC broadcasts at 648 kHz. I believe they broadcast on that frequency (and others) from multiple transmitter sites which are synchronous. I wonder how that effects reception at long distances? From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Mar 1 16:32:08 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:32:08 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage In-Reply-To: References: <20070301102130.5F09C83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <17895.18008.685739.871164@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I was in Germany last over Christmas and can confirm the BBC broadcasts at > 648 kHz. The World Service for Central Europe is on 648, yes. It's a five-tower in-line array (unusual for the UK) in Ordfordness, Suffolk. The site is shared with the Dutch station Radio Nationaal on 1296 (which has an even-more-unusual six-tower array). Historically, if my old WRTHes are to be believed, the World Service used both transmitters: 648 during the day and 1296 at night. (It seems not impossible that the same towers might have been used for both.) -GAWollman From readaaron@friedbagels.com Thu Mar 1 15:48:00 2007 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:48:00 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? In-Reply-To: <001b01c75c30$d9c35030$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <45E6FD37.8010609@friedbagels.com> <001b01c75c30$d9c35030$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <45E73C00.7060005@friedbagels.com> Nope. You can't broadcast AM Stereo *and* IBOC at the same time. The physics of the iBiquity system don't allow for it.*** I remember asking Mark Manuelian about this a while ago...not long after they'd installed IBOC on the main. He said they had three transmitters: a main and backup in Hull, and a third in Allston. At one time both the Hull xmitters could do AM Stereo, but after IBOC was installed only the backup Hull xmitter still could. The Allston xmitter doesn't have AM stereo at all. So if you hear AM Stereo on WBZ, it means they're running on the backup xmitter from Hull. Speaking of IBOC...I just got a receiver finally, and listening IBOC on WMKI, WXKS and WBZ...I swear WBZ's IBOC audio doesn't sound as good; the compression artifacts seem more noticeable. I wonder if that's a limitation of voice audio (instead of music) through the HDR codec, or a reflection of how WBZ's IBOC was one of the first out of the gate and it hasn't been updated? Or maybe I'm just imagining it. - Aaron *** Which should prove interesting for expanded band stations that try to upgrade to IBOC, since technically the rules (still) state that they must broadcast in AM Stereo. However, that rule is oft-ignored, I'm told. Much like the rule that EX-AM stations are supposed to take their old signals dark after five years...grumble grumble... -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02446-2204 Doug Drown wrote: > Doesn't WBZ? > > -Doug > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aaron Read" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:20 AM > Subject: AM Stereo? > > >> Does anyone know who, besides WJIB 740, still broadcasts in AM Stereo in >> the Boston area? >> >> -- >> >> >> -------------------------- >> Aaron Read >> readaaron@friedbagels.com >> Boston, MA 02446-2204 >> >> >> >> > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Mar 1 17:11:31 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:11:31 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? References: <45E6FD37.8010609@friedbagels.com><001b01c75c30$d9c35030$6501a8c0@pastor2> <45E73C00.7060005@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <002601c75c4f$0a47d500$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I've heard from at least one person that the CODEC used for the AM version of HD sounds much better with music than with speech. I suspect that that comment was based on listening experiences like yours. If 1430 were still running talk or if WILD were still running HD (or should that now read just "still running"? I haven't checked today to see if WILD is still on) you'd have one or two meaningful data points, but Rumba is mostly music, so 1430 doesn't provide much of a data point. After I send this message, I'll check to see if 1090 is still on. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Read" To: "Doug Drown" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:48 PM Subject: Re: AM Stereo? > Nope. You can't broadcast AM Stereo *and* IBOC at the same time. The > physics of the iBiquity system don't allow for it.*** > > I remember asking Mark Manuelian about this a while ago...not long after > they'd installed IBOC on the main. He said they had three transmitters: > a main and backup in Hull, and a third in Allston. At one time both the > Hull xmitters could do AM Stereo, but after IBOC was installed only the > backup Hull xmitter still could. The Allston xmitter doesn't have AM > stereo at all. So if you hear AM Stereo on WBZ, it means they're > running on the backup xmitter from Hull. > > Speaking of IBOC...I just got a receiver finally, and listening IBOC on > WMKI, WXKS and WBZ...I swear WBZ's IBOC audio doesn't sound as good; the > compression artifacts seem more noticeable. I wonder if that's a > limitation of voice audio (instead of music) through the HDR codec, or a > reflection of how WBZ's IBOC was one of the first out of the gate and it > hasn't been updated? Or maybe I'm just imagining it. > > - Aaron > > *** Which should prove interesting for expanded band stations that try > to upgrade to IBOC, since technically the rules (still) state that they > must broadcast in AM Stereo. However, that rule is oft-ignored, I'm > told. Much like the rule that EX-AM stations are supposed to take their > old signals dark after five years...grumble grumble... > > -------------------------- > Aaron Read > readaaron@friedbagels.com > Boston, MA 02446-2204 > > > > > > Doug Drown wrote: > > Doesn't WBZ? > > > > -Doug > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Aaron Read" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:20 AM > > Subject: AM Stereo? > > > > > >> Does anyone know who, besides WJIB 740, still broadcasts in AM Stereo in > >> the Boston area? > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> -------------------------- > >> Aaron Read > >> readaaron@friedbagels.com > >> Boston, MA 02446-2204 > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > From brscomm@charter.net Thu Mar 1 18:50:44 2007 From: brscomm@charter.net (Bill Smith) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:50:44 -0600 Subject: AM Radio Coverage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001601c75c5c$6db69f60$6701a8c0@wesels> This would be the site. It's used by the BBC World Service. http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/orfordness.asp Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio- > interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Malone > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:07 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage > > I was in Germany last over Christmas and can confirm the BBC broadcasts at > 648 kHz. > > As a side note years ago (circa 1985) when I was a newscaster on WTAG, I > seem to remember the station getting a reception report along with an air > check of the station being received somewhere in the UK. > > -Mike > > > >From: "Bob Nelson" > >To: "A. Joseph Ross" , "BostonRadio Mailing > >List" > >Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage > >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:21:29 -0500 > > > > >>So if they can get US stations in Europe, howcome we don't get > >European stations in the US (on medium wave, that is)? > > > >I used to pick up the BBC at what sounded like 640 kHz sometimes late > >on a Sunday night...on a clock radio with an analog dial > > > >btw Europe has 9 kHz spacing doesn't it? You might have something like > >"1248 kHz". A Walkman I recently got allowed you to set it to the > >9 kHz spacing (and at one point I accidentally set it that way > >but after I took the battery out and tried again, it was back > >to 10 kHz spacing: 530, 540 et al) > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from MicrosoftR > Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Mar 2 10:03:39 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:03:39 -0500 Subject: "Whatever Became of . . .?" Dep't. Message-ID: <00c201c75cdb$f6a992d0$6501a8c0@pastor2> I've been hearing Rod Fritz's welcome voice of late on Fox Radio newscasts, and am wondering what has become of Paul Tuthill, also part of the recent WRKO fallout. I heard Paul for years on WTAG before he moved over to 'RKO. Is he still in the area? -Doug From mailinglists2005@hotmail.com Fri Mar 2 11:27:29 2007 From: mailinglists2005@hotmail.com (Mike Malone) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:27:29 -0500 Subject: "Whatever Became of . . .?" Dep't. In-Reply-To: <00c201c75cdb$f6a992d0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: I heard Paul on WAMC last week. Don't know whether it was just stringing or if he is on the staff out there now. -Mike >From: "Doug Drown" >Reply-To: Doug Drown >To: "Boston Radio Interest >Board" >Subject: "Whatever Became of . . .?" Dep't. >Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:03:39 -0500 > >I've been hearing Rod Fritz's welcome voice of late on Fox Radio newscasts, >and am wondering what has become of Paul Tuthill, also part of the recent >WRKO fallout. I heard Paul for years on WTAG before he moved over to 'RKO. >Is he still in the area? > >-Doug > _________________________________________________________________ Find what you need at prices you?ll love. Compare products and save at MSN? Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701 From dbradio@yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 11:48:40 2007 From: dbradio@yahoo.com (Dan Bourret) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:48:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: A Broadcast TV License May Be Worth Something After All Message-ID: <763800.37191.qm@web60614.mail.yahoo.com> I recorded both the Standard Def and HD broadcast and the HD did indeed have the pixellation that others were referring to. I did record both versions onto a single DVD. If anyone is interested in a copy of the DVD, please email me (off list) and you can compare the Standard broadcast vs the HD one (so long as I am not breaking any copyright infringement laws buy providing a DVD recording at no charge??). Thanks, Dan ----- Original Message ---- From: Stephanie Weil To: John Mullaney Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:01:56 AM Subject: RE: A Broadcast TV License May Be Worth Something After All On Wed, February 28, 2007 07:03, John Mullaney wrote: > > I sometimes get pixellation and choppy sound on a regular show on analog Probably because whatever the feed to the cable company is digital. Or the source that the shows are recorded on. This kind of thing never happened when the whole air-chain (or cable-chain in this case) was analog. The worst I remember seeing was sometimes a crinkled videotape showing lines on screen. But it wasn't as bad as the picture stuttering to a halt and then the sound continuing for a bit more before the video caught up. steph ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather From Joe@attorneyross.com Fri Mar 2 12:30:42 2007 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:30:42 -0500 Subject: A Broadcast TV License May Be Worth Something After All In-Reply-To: <763800.37191.qm@web60614.mail.yahoo.com> References: <763800.37191.qm@web60614.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45E818F2.3656.2DB6E4@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 2 Mar 2007 Dan Bourret wrote: > I recorded both the Standard Def and HD broadcast and the HD did > indeed have the pixellation that others were referring to. I did > record both versions onto a single DVD. If anyone is interested in a > copy of the DVD, please email me (off list) and you can compare the > Standard broadcast vs the HD one (so long as I am not breaking any > copyright infringement laws buy providing a DVD recording at no > charge??). Hey, remember when "standard broadcast" meant the AM broadcast band? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From markwa1ion@aol.com Fri Mar 2 13:00:33 2007 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:00:33 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C92B0BCEE8DCA4-B7C-7E28@WEBMAIL-RE17.sysops.aol.com> There is a chance that you may have heard the BBC broadcast via CBN, St. John's, Newfoundland, on 640. It is one of the CBC network stations that, for several years now, has been running broadcasts from overseas providers late at night. These include BBC as well as English-language programming from the Deutsche Welle, Radio Netherlands, and others. While the 648 Orfordness UK BBC rig has been heard in the US, it's not one of the more common catches since it beams away from us. Spain and even Saudi Arabia on 648 are comparable, or better than, UK's signal on that channel heading this way. In 1978 most European channels moved up 1 kHz in order to be exact multiples of 9. Before then, the BBC World Service rig was on 647 kHz and sited in Daventry. The pattern out of that one must have been wider, since it had a much stronger signal here in the States than present-day 648. If your receptions were before the '80s, most likely it was Daventry that you heard. I have an audio clip of this (recorded from an R-390A military receiver at Sudbury, MA in 1975) accessible from a link at "http://home.comcast.net/~markwa1ion/dx_audio.htm". Best-heard UK stations in the US now include BBC on 693, 882, and 909; TalkSport on 1053 and 1089; and Virgin Radio on 1215. The major Boston and New York stations, as well as anything from the Canadian Maritimes, are what come in the best on their side of the "pond". There are live receivers around the world you can access via the Internet ("http://www.dxtuners.com") for a fee. One night I used a receiver at a west-facing coastal site (Ilfracombe) in the UK and heard WWZN-1510 about as well as I can here in Billerica ! WBZ and WEEI were also coming in there, but weaker. WBBR-1130 NYC was almost as good as 1510. A "lowly" 5 kW station that had a knock-your-socks-off signal was WDEA-1370 Ellsworth, ME. Needless to say, the Newfies (VOCM-590 and CJYQ-930 from St. John's) were standouts. Occasionally the Brits will get good openings to the Great Lakes area and other parts of the upper midwest. When you go up to far northern Scotland, over-the-Arctic reception of stations from the Rockies and Pacific Northwest can occur. To find out about the many US and Canadian stations heard throughout Europe, the UK-based Medium Wave Circle club is undoubtedly your best source of information. See "http://www.mwcircle.org" for more detail. Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA << This would be the site. It's used by the BBC World Service. http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/orfordness.asp Bill > I was in Germany last over Christmas and can confirm the BBC broadcasts at > 648 kHz. > > As a side note years ago (circa 1985) when I was a newscaster on WTAG, I > seem to remember the station getting a reception report along with an air > check of the station being received somewhere in the UK. > > -Mike > > > >From: "Bob Nelson" > > >>So if they can get US stations in Europe, howcome we don't get > >European stations in the US (on medium wave, that is)? > > > >I used to pick up the BBC at what sounded like 640 kHz sometimes late > >on a Sunday night...on a clock radio with an analog dial >> ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Mar 2 13:54:27 2007 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:54:27 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? Message-ID: > > From: Aaron Read > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:20:07 -0500 > Subject: AM Stereo? > > Does anyone know who, besides WJIB 740, still broadcasts > in AM Stereo in the Boston area? There are no other stations still broadcasting in analog AM stereo in the area besides WJIB. The last time I was out in Worcester with an AM stereo well over a year ago, WVEI 1440 in Worcester still had their AM stereo carrier and pilot on, though a straight rebroadcast of a mono parent station (WEEI). I haven't had a chance to check more recently if that's still the case out there. > From: "Dan Strassberg" > To: "Aaron Read" , > "Boston Radio Interest" > > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:11:31 -0500 > Subject: Re: AM Stereo? > > ... If 1430 were still running talk or if WILD were still > running HD (or should that now read just "still running"? > I haven't checked today to see if WILD is still on)... WILD is still on the air right now, but they shut off their IBOC a couple of months ago. AM HD in this area is now just WBZ, WMKI, and WXKS-AM. WBZ and WXKS-AM are in stereo on HD. I'm not sure, but I think WMKI may be running a mono feed on their HD. I'll have to listen more closely to check on that. EP From lglavin@mail.com Fri Mar 2 13:51:05 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:51:05 -0500 Subject: WTTT On Nighttime Pattern All Day Message-ID: <20070302185105.D71321F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Sometimes when there's a winter storm with sleet and heavy rains along with the snow, a radio station or two (usually AM) may wind up transmitting a weaker or even non-existent signal. So earlier in the day today (Friday 03/02) I scanned the AM dial with my radio that displays relative signal strength, and voila (a little French lingo in honor of the former Radiodiffusion Francais show once heard on WJIB) I observed that WTTT-AM 1150 registered a tiny 2.5 rather than the 3.5 that is displayed at midday. Remember this readout is relative and doesn't actually mean a 4.0 is TWICE as strong as a 2.0...in fact WTT's 2.5 this morning through 1:00 pm provides an barely listenable audio, while 3.0 is pretty strong. A quck sample of an AM station just about the same distance away and also in the same middle of the dial, WESX-AM 1230 transmitting from Marblehead with 1,000 watts output gave a reading of 3.0, so WTTT's nighttime pattern seems to direct much less than 1,000 watts NNE. The thought crossed my mind that moisture may have gotten into the phasors or something, so I checked the station that shares the transmitter building, WAZN-AM 1470, and it was at normal strength (and stronger than WTTT). I also checked an AM that transmits from nearly the same geographical area, WWZN, a short distance away in Waltham, and it was at full power. Could it be that WTTT engineers were fiddling with the equipment to make sure they were ready for the Daylight Savings time switch in 9 days? = Secure Your Data + Multi Point Video Own/Host Our Solution & Enable Real Time Video, Demos & Collaboration. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=262637aa67bf26bc8a397c9a7bc850e5 From lglavin@mail.com Fri Mar 2 14:05:59 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:05:59 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage Message-ID: <20070302190607.B82261BF23B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mike Malone" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:07:28 -0500 >As a side note years ago (circa 1985) when I was a newscaster on >WTAG, I seem to remember the station getting a reception report >along with an air check of the station being received somewhere in >the UK. >-Mike That's really remarkable considering the weak signal WTAG sends east. One day, when the 590 frequency in Boston belonged to WEEI then owned by CBS and all-news, I was driving south on the Central Artery when WEEI went off-the-air for just about 10 minutes. Instead of switching to another station like a normal person, I tuned to 580 to observe how well WTAG was coming in in Boston, and during that time the signal was barely audible at all. I'm assuming its nighttime pattern protects 590 in Boston to the same extent, so if someone in the UK can hear it at all, he or she has a REALLY super radio. = Arizona's "Homes Illustrated" Magazine Arizona real estate Web site. Search local Homes in Tucson, agents and brokers. Find new home builders, mortgage companies and more. Get your free copy of "Homes Illustrated" magazine. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=da979786268a39336387ea104cf9a98e From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Mar 2 15:27:21 2007 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:27:21 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001501c75d09$30efcfe0$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > WBZ and WXKS-AM are in stereo on HD. I'm not sure, but I > think WMKI may be running a mono feed on their HD. I'll > have to listen more closely to check on that. WMKI is in stereo, but the signal level has to be at least 4 bars to receive it in stereo on the Sangean. It usually doesn't hold steady down here in Hanson. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Mar 2 16:22:18 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:22:18 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage References: <20070302190607.B82261BF23B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <010001c75d10$dc3306e0$6501a8c0@pastor2> WTAG can't be heard much east of the 495 belt, but it certainly blankets all of Worcester, Franklin, Hillsborough, and Cheshire Counties. The signal can be heard well into New Hampshire and Vermont, as well as into the upper Pioneer Valley and a good deal of north/northeastern Connecticut. During my years as a child and young adult in the Fitchburg-Gardner-Athol area, WTAG came in as though it were next door, both day and night. Despite its null to the east and its having only 5 kw of power, WTAG covers the area it serves as effectively as any 50-kw station possibly could. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Mike Malone" ; Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mike Malone" > >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > >Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage > >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:07:28 -0500 > > >As a side note years ago (circa 1985) when I was a newscaster on > >WTAG, I seem to remember the station getting a reception report > >along with an air check of the station being received somewhere in > >the UK. > >-Mike > > That's really remarkable considering the weak signal WTAG sends > east. One day, when the 590 frequency in Boston belonged > to WEEI then owned by CBS and all-news, I was driving south on the > Central Artery when WEEI went off-the-air for just about 10 minutes. > Instead of switching to another station like a normal person, I > tuned to 580 to observe how well WTAG was coming in in Boston, > and during that time the signal was barely audible at all. > I'm assuming its nighttime pattern protects 590 in Boston to > the same extent, so if someone in the UK can hear it at all, > he or she has a REALLY super radio. > > > = > Arizona's "Homes Illustrated" Magazine > Arizona real estate Web site. Search local Homes in Tucson, agents and brokers. Find new home builders, mortgage companies and more. Get your free copy of "Homes Illustrated" magazine. > http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=da979786268a39336387ea104cf9a98e > > From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Mar 2 16:30:27 2007 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:30:27 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? Message-ID: --- Jeff Lehmann wrote: > > WBZ and WXKS-AM are in stereo on HD. I'm not sure, but I > > think WMKI may be running a mono feed on their HD. I'll > > have to listen more closely to check on that. > > WMKI is in stereo, but the signal level has to be at least > 4 bars to receive it in stereo on the Sangean. It usually > doesn't hold steady down here in Hanson. I just checked on headphones. WMKI HD is actually in stereo. I'm a little bummed that the unadvertised analog C-Quam AM stereo feature on the Sangean is not wideband. It gets full stereo separation on WJIB, but with the muddy, narrowband fidelity of conventional AM mono receivers. I have to go back to my mid-1980's Sony STR-AV490 to hear WJIB in full wideband C-Quam AM stereo glory. EP From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Mar 3 11:54:46 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 11:54:46 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Message-ID: <20070303165446.EAE2F49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD receivers to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) >>But now the Braintree-based broadcaster is looking to lure the often-neglected 18-to-24-year-old audience by asking young adults to help craft a new HD-2 station...about 90 percent of the programming would be music. The kind of music ?commercial radio won?t even touch,? she said. http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=186088 One type of music is something called "shoegaze", a "British-inspired" music where the singers like to look down at their shoes as they perform. No, that isn't an early April Fools joke. No word on whether or not GM plans to hand out $200 to each prospective listeners so they can buy the radio that will actually pick it up. From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Mar 3 11:59:40 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:59:40 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <20070303165446.EAE2F49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070303165446.EAE2F49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <003301c75db5$55935090$6500a8c0@tony> Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and others and I'm almost 42! At RAB2007, I attended one of the seminars which talked about the fact that radio stations were starting to do this with HD and Webcast. Anyone interested can go to my blog and read the three entries about RAB: http://politizine.blogspot.com Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:55 AM To: BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD receivers to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) >>But now the Braintree-based broadcaster is looking to lure the often-neglected 18-to-24-year-old audience by asking young adults to help craft a new HD-2 station...about 90 percent of the programming would be music. The kind of music "commercial radio won't even touch," she said. http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=186088 One type of music is something called "shoegaze", a "British-inspired" music where the singers like to look down at their shoes as they perform. No, that isn't an early April Fools joke. No word on whether or not GM plans to hand out $200 to each prospective listeners so they can buy the radio that will actually pick it up. From scott@fybush.com Sat Mar 3 12:10:46 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:10:46 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <20070303165446.EAE2F49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on rolinin.bostonradio.org autolearn=failed version=3.1.7 rolinin.bostonradio.org References: <20070303165446.EAE2F49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on rolinin.bostonradio.org autolearn=failed version=3.1.7 rolinin.bostonradio.org Message-ID: <45E9AC16.7000200@fybush.com> Bob Nelson wrote: > Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us > program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD > receivers to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) Any more than they were putting it on AM in 1968. Anybody have figures on market penetration of FM receivers in the mid-sixties? Or on what a typical FM radio would have cost, adjusted for inflation? It seems to me there's a contradiction going on here - critics of HD Radio (of which I am one, occasionally) want to argue that there's no interesting content on the new medium to drive receiver sales, then they want to turn around and criticize stations for trying to put new content on there, because nobody has a receiver. That chicken/egg thing has to get cracked somehow, and I for one give Greater a fair amount of credit for making at least some effort to do so by trying something different in its HD2 programming. I know, that's not as much fun as throwing rocks... s From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Mar 3 12:39:27 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:39:27 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Message-ID: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> >>Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and others and I'm almost 42! I'm 45 and never heard of "shoegazer" till I read that article. Feel a bit older now; I wonder if Lawrence Welk will be on NHPTV tonight? :) (I do know tonight I'm going to a folk coffeehouse up in Essex and the last one I went to, last month, had me as one of the _youngest_ guys in the audience...hoo boy) >>At RAB2007, I attended one of the seminars which talked about the fact that radio stations were starting to do this with HD and Webcast. Anyone interested can go to my blog and read the three entries about RAB: http://politizine.blogspot.com Great that they're trying something innovative, I guess. An idea for the folks at Greater Media: have an hour long show on the weekend playing some of this stuff and tell people they can hear more by getting an HD radio and tuning to the new station etc. (I wonder if they mention on their Sun morning country oldies show that WKLB's HD2 station does classic country, for those who want to hear it at other times...) From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Mar 3 12:45:25 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:45:25 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <004501c75dbb$b960e0f0$6500a8c0@tony> That's actually a good idea although I wonder if it would drive listeners away from the main channel ... Which would defeat the entire purpose. Radio is trying to build new audiences; not drive them away from main channels to secondary channels. Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: Bob Nelson [mailto:raccoonradio@mail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:39 PM To: radiotony; BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Great that they're trying something innovative, I guess. An idea for the folks at Greater Media: have an hour long show on the weekend playing some of this stuff and tell people they can hear more by getting an HD radio and tuning to the new station etc. (I wonder if they mention on their Sun morning country oldies show that WKLB's HD2 station does classic country, for those who want to hear it at other times...) From paul@derrynh.net Sat Mar 3 14:11:39 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:11:39 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <003301c75db5$55935090$6500a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <004901c75dc7$c5ea7320$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> How come you don't put it on 'KXL? ;-) Paul Hopfgarten Derry, New Hampshire -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of radiotony Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:00 PM To: 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and others and I'm almost 42! At RAB2007, I attended one of the seminars which talked about the fact that radio stations were starting to do this with HD and Webcast. Anyone interested can go to my blog and read the three entries about RAB: http://politizine.blogspot.com Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:55 AM To: BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD receivers to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) >>But now the Braintree-based broadcaster is looking to lure the often-neglected 18-to-24-year-old audience by asking young adults to help craft a new HD-2 station...about 90 percent of the programming would be music. The kind of music "commercial radio won't even touch," she said. http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=186088 One type of music is something called "shoegaze", a "British-inspired" music where the singers like to look down at their shoes as they perform. No, that isn't an early April Fools joke. No word on whether or not GM plans to hand out $200 to each prospective listeners so they can buy the radio that will actually pick it up. From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Mar 3 14:16:44 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:16:44 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <004901c75dc7$c5ea7320$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> References: <003301c75db5$55935090$6500a8c0@tony> <004901c75dc7$c5ea7320$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: <004b01c75dc8$7b11e080$6500a8c0@tony> Well, I don't own WKXL. I also won't be working much longer there either since my employment is being terminated, effective the end of March. However, if I did own an FM signal, I would consider what they are doing with the second HD signal. But as I was saying to Bob off the list, I don't think HD Radio is the future. I think wi-fi Internet radio sets are the future. Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hopfgarten [mailto:paul@derrynh.net] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:12 PM To: 'radiotony'; 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station How come you don't put it on 'KXL? ;-) Paul Hopfgarten Derry, New Hampshire -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of radiotony Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:00 PM To: 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and others and I'm almost 42! At RAB2007, I attended one of the seminars which talked about the fact that radio stations were starting to do this with HD and Webcast. Anyone interested can go to my blog and read the three entries about RAB: http://politizine.blogspot.com Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:55 AM To: BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD receivers to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) >>But now the Braintree-based broadcaster is looking to lure the often-neglected 18-to-24-year-old audience by asking young adults to help craft a new HD-2 station...about 90 percent of the programming would be music. The kind of music "commercial radio won't even touch," she said. http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=186088 One type of music is something called "shoegaze", a "British-inspired" music where the singers like to look down at their shoes as they perform. No, that isn't an early April Fools joke. No word on whether or not GM plans to hand out $200 to each prospective listeners so they can buy the radio that will actually pick it up. From rogerkola@aol.com Sat Mar 3 14:49:35 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:49:35 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station References: <003301c75db5$55935090$6500a8c0@tony><004901c75dc7$c5ea7320$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> <004b01c75dc8$7b11e080$6500a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <006001c75dcd$13fd6180$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Actually that would be a great promotion for the "new channel" Tony, simulcast it on the internet along with the broadcast, the listeners can get it at home on their computers and then in their car on the new IBOC compatible radios which have become the next logical step in the process. The growth of early FM was mentioned, and the automakers became the impetus that actually moved people to that band. I just can't imagine how many knobs, buttons, presets, sliders etc. will be on the next generation of auto radios (guess we'll have to call them receivers?) and how any driver will figure out which MW,VHF,Sat Band 1, Sat Band 2,Stereo, Mono, Digital signal they want to listen to (ala 57 channels and nothings on...) Anyone notice how many words in the above note are almost out of normal use? Now to get my 60's Radio Shack FM car adaptor out to put in the glove compartment of my 67 Mustang. ;-) Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "radiotony" To: "'BostonRadio Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > Well, I don't own WKXL. I also won't be working much longer there either > since my employment is being terminated, effective the end of March. > > However, if I did own an FM signal, I would consider what they are doing > with the second HD signal. > > But as I was saying to Bob off the list, I don't think HD Radio is the > future. I think wi-fi Internet radio sets are the future. > > Best, > Tony Schinella > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Hopfgarten [mailto:paul@derrynh.net] > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:12 PM > To: 'radiotony'; 'BostonRadio Mailing List' > Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > How come you don't put it on 'KXL? > ;-) > > Paul Hopfgarten > Derry, New Hampshire > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > radiotony > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:00 PM > To: 'BostonRadio Mailing List' > Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > > Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and others > and I'm almost 42! > At RAB2007, I attended one of the seminars which talked about the fact that > radio stations were starting to do this with HD and Webcast. > Anyone interested can go to my blog and read the three entries about RAB: > http://politizine.blogspot.com > > Best, > Tony Schinella > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Bob Nelson > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:55 AM > To: BostonRadio Mailing List > Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us > program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD receivers > to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) > > >>But now the Braintree-based broadcaster is looking to lure the > often-neglected 18-to-24-year-old audience by asking young adults to help > craft a new HD-2 station...about 90 percent of the programming would be > music. The kind of music "commercial radio won't even touch," she said. > > http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=186088 > > One type of music is something called "shoegaze", a "British-inspired" music > where the singers like to look down at their shoes as they perform. No, that > isn't an early April Fools joke. > > No word on whether or not GM plans to hand out $200 to each prospective > listeners so they can buy the radio that will actually pick it up. > > > > > > From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Mar 3 14:53:22 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:53:22 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <006001c75dcd$13fd6180$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <003301c75db5$55935090$6500a8c0@tony><004901c75dc7$c5ea7320$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> <004b01c75dc8$7b11e080$6500a8c0@tony> <006001c75dcd$13fd6180$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <004d01c75dcd$993ed860$6500a8c0@tony> When a family member of mine bought an old hot rod, he took out the CB and gave it to me, because he knew I wanted to have one in the car [at the time I was commuting from NH to Mass. daily]. However, if I wanted to use it, I had to unplug the radar detector! The CB still sits in a bag in my basement, yearning for the day when it can come out again ... :-( Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: Roger Kolakowski [mailto:rogerkola@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:50 PM To: radiotony; 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Subject: Re: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Actually that would be a great promotion for the "new channel" Tony, simulcast it on the internet along with the broadcast, the listeners can get it at home on their computers and then in their car on the new IBOC compatible radios which have become the next logical step in the process. The growth of early FM was mentioned, and the automakers became the impetus that actually moved people to that band. I just can't imagine how many knobs, buttons, presets, sliders etc. will be on the next generation of auto radios (guess we'll have to call them receivers?) and how any driver will figure out which MW,VHF,Sat Band 1, Sat Band 2,Stereo, Mono, Digital signal they want to listen to (ala 57 channels and nothings on...) Anyone notice how many words in the above note are almost out of normal use? Now to get my 60's Radio Shack FM car adaptor out to put in the glove compartment of my 67 Mustang. ;-) Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "radiotony" To: "'BostonRadio Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > Well, I don't own WKXL. I also won't be working much longer there either > since my employment is being terminated, effective the end of March. > > However, if I did own an FM signal, I would consider what they are doing > with the second HD signal. > > But as I was saying to Bob off the list, I don't think HD Radio is the > future. I think wi-fi Internet radio sets are the future. > > Best, > Tony Schinella > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Hopfgarten [mailto:paul@derrynh.net] > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:12 PM > To: 'radiotony'; 'BostonRadio Mailing List' > Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > How come you don't put it on 'KXL? > ;-) > > Paul Hopfgarten > Derry, New Hampshire > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > radiotony > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:00 PM > To: 'BostonRadio Mailing List' > Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > > Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and others > and I'm almost 42! > At RAB2007, I attended one of the seminars which talked about the fact that > radio stations were starting to do this with HD and Webcast. > Anyone interested can go to my blog and read the three entries about RAB: > http://politizine.blogspot.com > > Best, > Tony Schinella > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Bob Nelson > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:55 AM > To: BostonRadio Mailing List > Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us > program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD receivers > to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) > > >>But now the Braintree-based broadcaster is looking to lure the > often-neglected 18-to-24-year-old audience by asking young adults to help > craft a new HD-2 station...about 90 percent of the programming would be > music. The kind of music "commercial radio won't even touch," she said. > > http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=186088 > > One type of music is something called "shoegaze", a "British-inspired" music > where the singers like to look down at their shoes as they perform. No, that > isn't an early April Fools joke. > > No word on whether or not GM plans to hand out $200 to each prospective > listeners so they can buy the radio that will actually pick it up. > > > > > > From lglavin@mail.com Sat Mar 3 15:35:39 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:35:39 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Message-ID: <20070303203539.D8374478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Roger Kolakowski" >To: radiotony , "'BostonRadio Mailing List'" >Subject: Re: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station >Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:49:35 -050 >Anyone notice how many words in the above note are almost out of normal use? >Now to get my 60's Radio Shack FM car adaptor out to put in the glove >compartment of my 67 Mustang. ;-) Speaking of references to bygone technolgies, there was a humorous segment on today's (03/03) "Weekend Edition/Saturday" on NPR. From time to time they read listeners' e-mail, and they intro this segment with a musical piece featuring clickety-clack sounds behind the instrumental. A listener wrote : "what is the PERCUSSION instrument in the background of that jingle?" The host replied...that isn't a percussion instrument, it's a good old-fashioned TYPEWRITER. I surmise the questioner was under 30. = OWA Teen Adventure Camp Adventure camps for teens since 1979. Small group adventure specialty camps and expeditions in Colorado, Mexico and Bolivia. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=0abd9f4660b73b9c4049a488c69e6546 From paul@derrynh.net Sat Mar 3 16:02:16 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 16:02:16 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <004b01c75dc8$7b11e080$6500a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <002101c75dd7$39ff4150$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> Tony, I was just joking around....Sorry to hear you're losing your position. WKXL is actually a pretty good "community" station.. Paul Hopfgarten Derry, New Hampshire -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of radiotony Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:17 PM To: 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Well, I don't own WKXL. I also won't be working much longer there either since my employment is being terminated, effective the end of March. However, if I did own an FM signal, I would consider what they are doing with the second HD signal. But as I was saying to Bob off the list, I don't think HD Radio is the future. I think wi-fi Internet radio sets are the future. Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hopfgarten [mailto:paul@derrynh.net] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:12 PM To: 'radiotony'; 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station How come you don't put it on 'KXL? ;-) Paul Hopfgarten Derry, New Hampshire -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of radiotony Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:00 PM To: 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and others and I'm almost 42! At RAB2007, I attended one of the seminars which talked about the fact that radio stations were starting to do this with HD and Webcast. Anyone interested can go to my blog and read the three entries about RAB: http://politizine.blogspot.com Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:55 AM To: BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD receivers to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) >>But now the Braintree-based broadcaster is looking to lure the often-neglected 18-to-24-year-old audience by asking young adults to help craft a new HD-2 station...about 90 percent of the programming would be music. The kind of music "commercial radio won't even touch," she said. http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=186088 One type of music is something called "shoegaze", a "British-inspired" music where the singers like to look down at their shoes as they perform. No, that isn't an early April Fools joke. No word on whether or not GM plans to hand out $200 to each prospective listeners so they can buy the radio that will actually pick it up. From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Mar 3 16:08:15 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:08:15 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <004501c75dbb$b960e0f0$6500a8c0@tony> References: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> <004501c75dbb$b960e0f0$6500a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <200703032108.l23L8Il7014546@mac.com> At 12:45 PM 3/3/2007, radiotony wrote: > >That's actually a good idea although I wonder if it would drive listeners >away from the main channel ... Which would defeat the entire purpose. >Radio is trying to build new audiences; not drive them away from main >channels to secondary channels. I think they would rather have you listening to the secondary channels part of the time than having you buy satellite radio and never listen to the main channel. I think the broadcast stations will do just about anything to keep people away from satellite, that is their biggest fear. That being said I'll be getting to listen to the secondary channels myself next week, my Sangean tuner is scheduled to be delivered on Monday. If anyone's interested, Ambient Weather has them for $199.00 with free shipping http://www.ambientweather.com/sasrhdt1.html, last week when I placed my order it was on sale for $179.10 but I had to pay $10.48 for shipping, it was still a bit cheaper than getting one at You Blew It and paying sales tax. The VHF-UHF Digest (Worldwide TV-FM DX Assn.) had an excellent review if this tuner, the reviewer said the selectivity is noticeably better than a Carver TX-11, which happens to be what I'm replacing with the Sangean. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From marklaurence@mac.com Sat Mar 3 19:16:10 2007 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 19:16:10 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <874109EE-8DF7-493F-9B92-AA5F4634848B@mac.com> On Mar 3, 2007, at 12:39 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: >>> Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride >>> and others > and I'm almost 42! > > I'm 45 and never heard of "shoegazer" till I read that article. Feel > a bit older now; I wonder if Lawrence Welk will be on NHPTV > tonight? :) This might make you feel even older...I first heard of the term "shoegazer" soon after I got my first computer with Internet connections. The group My Bloody Valentine was one of the best-known shoegazer bands. That was sometime around 1993, and I was behind the cutting-edge curve by a few years, having waited that long to learn about them. By then their CDs were pretty much available only in used CD stores (do they still have those?). The music was extremely loud and full of distortion, but slow-paced and melodic at the same time. I don't think there's ever been a real hit in that style, but I'm glad it's still around. From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Mar 3 20:07:11 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:07:11 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <874109EE-8DF7-493F-9B92-AA5F4634848B@mac.com> References: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> <874109EE-8DF7-493F-9B92-AA5F4634848B@mac.com> Message-ID: <008201c75df9$705cac70$6500a8c0@tony> Yeah, My Bloody Valentine were one of the best. "Only Shallow" and "Soon" are two of my favorite songs. I can't think of any shoegazer "hits," for lack of a better word. It was big on WFNX in the late 1980s to early 1990s. Lush had a couple of radio staples: "Sweetness and Light" and "Nothing Natural." Ride had "Vapour Trail" and "Leave Them All Behind" which were both pretty big. The "movement," if you will, was followed by Britpop - Blur, Oasis, that kinda stuff - which was a bit safer and sold a lot more records. Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: Mark Laurence [mailto:marklaurence@mac.com] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 7:16 PM To: Bob Nelson Cc: radiotony; BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Re: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station On Mar 3, 2007, at 12:39 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: >>> Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and >>> others > and I'm almost 42! > > I'm 45 and never heard of "shoegazer" till I read that article. Feel a > bit older now; I wonder if Lawrence Welk will be on NHPTV tonight? :) This might make you feel even older...I first heard of the term "shoegazer" soon after I got my first computer with Internet connections. The group My Bloody Valentine was one of the best-known shoegazer bands. That was sometime around 1993, and I was behind the cutting-edge curve by a few years, having waited that long to learn about them. By then their CDs were pretty much available only in used CD stores (do they still have those?). The music was extremely loud and full of distortion, but slow-paced and melodic at the same time. I don't think there's ever been a real hit in that style, but I'm glad it's still around. From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Sat Mar 3 22:45:59 2007 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 22:45:59 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station References: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com><004501c75dbb$b960e0f0$6500a8c0@tony> <200703032108.l23L8Il7014546@mac.com> Message-ID: <007101c75e0f$a008cc40$62984c0c@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Weil To: 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > At 12:45 PM 3/3/2007, radiotony wrote: > > > >That's actually a good idea although I wonder if it would drive listeners > >away from the main channel ... Which would defeat the entire purpose. > >Radio is trying to build new audiences; not drive them away from main > >channels to secondary channels. > > I think they would rather have you listening to the secondary > channels part of the time than having you buy satellite radio and > never listen to the main channel. I think the broadcast stations > will do just about anything to keep people away from satellite, that > is their biggest fear. > I'm listening to WDRC-FM HD-2 (Hartford) right now. The last two songs played have been Big Bopper's "Big Bopper's Wedding" and the Dixie Cups' "People Say," neither of which would ever get played on the main signal. DRC-FM has a liner they play every hour advising listeners to "check us out on HD Radio ... find out more at drcfm.com!" When you go to the Web site, you find out that you can receive something called "Big D on HD," but the rest of the blurb gives you no idea what you'll hear. And the liner played on the main signal merely tells you that you'll hear "your favorite good time rock 'n' roll like you've never heard it before" -- i.e., better audio quality -- on HD. I'm baffled. Here's a channel that actually goes DEEPER than either satellite service's '60s channel and DRC would rather promote a way to hear "Jet Airliner" and "Incense and Peppermints" and all the other oldies on DRC's daily playlist in higher-quality audio. Why? Are that many FM listeners dissatisfied with the audio quality that they're dying to plunk down $200 for a radio that promises improvements? Howard From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Mar 3 23:02:05 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 23:02:05 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Message-ID: <20070304040206.3486483BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> From: radiotony To: "'Mark Laurence'" , "'Bob Nelson'" >>Yeah, My Bloody Valentine were one of the best Yes have heard of that band and some of the others you mentioned... From rogerkola@aol.com Sun Mar 4 00:13:53 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 00:13:53 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station References: <003301c75db5$55935090$6500a8c0@tony><004901c75dc7$c5ea7320$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036><004b01c75dc8$7b11e080$6500a8c0@tony> <006001c75dcd$13fd6180$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <000c01c75e1b$e74a90a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Tony noted: But as I was saying to Bob off the list, I don't think HD Radio is the > future. I think wi-fi Internet radio sets are the future. IMHO...The future all depends on where people listen to the radio...in their homes or just in their cars while traveling. In a previous life I had the fortune to work for a local AM station with demographics of 35 - eternity. I knew the listeners were at home and could market the service as such. But with younger demos, the majority must work and have little input into their "MUSAK" during those hours. Internet "radio sets" are a marketable possibility for the "at home" demos, but if listenership has really degenerated to time in vehicle, I believe that digital on air broadcasts are the next step to the salvation of "listenership." A pity though, I'll just have to keep Part 15 rebroadcasting to feed the 25 or so tube radios in my collection ;-( Roger WA1KAT From rac@gabrielmass.com Sun Mar 4 12:52:09 2007 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 12:52:09 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <000c01c75e1b$e74a90a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <003301c75db5$55935090$6500a8c0@tony><004901c75dc7$c5ea7320$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036><004b01c75dc8$7b11e080$6500a8c0@tony> <006001c75dcd$13fd6180$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <000c01c75e1b$e74a90a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <45EB0749.1050802@gabrielmass.com> > Tony noted: > > But as I was saying to Bob off the list, I don't think HD Radio is the >> future. I think wi-fi Internet radio sets are the future. They're available now for short-range (home/office) use: http://www.trustedreviews.com/multimedia/review/2006/06/03/Acoustic-Energy-Wi-Fi-Internet-Radio/p1 When WiMax rolls out and makes city-sized wi-fi hotspots available, those radios can move into cars: http://radio.about.com/od/opinionpieces/a/aa082206a.htm --RC From rogerkola@aol.com Mon Mar 5 10:17:01 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:17:01 -0500 Subject: Fw: [sarex] WBZ Space Station Interview Message-ID: <001c01c75f39$53c14c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> May be of interest to some, WBZ talks to the space Station...recorded link Roger WA1KAT SUBMITTED BY ARTHUR N1ORC - AMSAT A/C 31468 WBZ Space Station Interview: to listen to the audio portion go to: http://wbz.com/pages/8662.php? >From Boston to space WBZ's Laurie Kirby speaks exclusively with the crew of the International Space Station. During their chat, Commander Sunita Williams of Needham got a surprise call from her mother, Bonnie Pandya. In an unusual interview on WBZ radio, reporter Laurie Kirby spoke with two astronauts aboard the International Space Station. Flight Engineer Sunita Williams and Commander Michael Lopez-Alegria took a break from their science experiments to talk with WBZ. During Wednesday?s interview, the astronauts talked about various topics such as the Red Sox and space walks. During the long distance phone call Williams, a Needham native, got a chance to talk with her mother, Bonnie Pandya of Cape Cod. ?This is a little bit of a surprise but I am absolutely psyched to hear your voice.? Williams said. Williams also talked about the record number of space walks she has done. ?I believe there is a generation of explorers behind me that are going to shatter my record.? About her latest space walk she said, ?It was just amazing to be outside?watching the world go by and watching the beautiful view of our planet.? About her experience, Williams said, ?life is wonderful up here.? Also after listening to the above go to the Jordan Rich site and listen to some of his recent audio contacts ---- Originally Sent via sarex@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/sarex From rogerkola@aol.com Mon Mar 5 10:40:01 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:40:01 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend Message-ID: <000b01c75f3c$8a342c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> This should be an interesting weekend or week for the radio and TV engineers. As DST is coming early this year, and many of the electronic products not to mention Windows based computers have an automatic DST change built in for a different change-over date, technicians should be running around all week making sure they don't end up with a lost hour assuming their "network" feeds move ahead an hour Sunday morning. It could be an interesting Sunday, then again, it could be Y2K all over again... "much ado about nothing." Don't forget your TIVO, computers and VCR's at home though! Roger WA1KAT From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Mar 5 10:53:45 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:53:45 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <000b01c75f3c$8a342c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <000b01c75f3c$8a342c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > This should be an interesting weekend or week for the radio and TV > engineers. As DST is coming early this year, and many of the electronic > products not to mention Windows based computers have an automatic DST change > built in for a different change-over date [...] Well, if they're correctly designed they have a *rule* for the change-over rather than a specific date (which would have to be fiddled every year). To add to the confusion, there's one county in Indiana that moved from Eastern to Central last year and is moving back to Eastern this weekend, which they will accomplish by not changing the clocks at all. (I pity the poor Windows users there....) -GAWollman From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Mar 5 11:22:04 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:22:04 -0500 Subject: WTWK Burlington VT (area) moves to women's talk Message-ID: <20070305162208.0A54A83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> WTWK AM 1070 Plattsburg NY, serving the Burlington VT area as well, has shifted to the female talk network Greenstone Media that was launched by Gloria Steinem and Jane Fonda (it had been Air America/Jones progressive talk shows). Not sure if it will be lifestyle talk or political. (Here in Beverly WNSH has been running it but I haven't tuned in to see what it's like--er, not part of their demo...--though WNSH does run Laura Ingraham from Talk Radio network as well. I hear her on WTKK...) The station is now imaged as Eve 1070. Hosts include Lisa Birnbach, Rolanda (had done a TV talk show), Radio Ritas, and Women Aloud. Daytimer... http://www.wtwk1070.com From me@billoneill.us Mon Mar 5 11:38:10 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:38:10 -0500 Subject: WTWK Burlington VT (area) moves to women's talk In-Reply-To: <20070305162208.0A54A83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070305162208.0A54A83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <45EC4772.6000206@billoneill.us> Bob Nelson wrote: > The station is now imaged as Eve 1070. Eve? Okay, I'll skip over to my second joke. A DAYtimer called Eve? Who knew? Bill O'Neill (I'm just sayin'...) From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Mar 5 11:58:15 2007 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:58:15 -0500 Subject: WTWK Burlington VT (area) moves to women's talk In-Reply-To: <45EC4772.6000206@billoneill.us> References: <20070305162208.0A54A83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> <45EC4772.6000206@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0703050858t78e70588qa94e0fdc80b840d9@mail.gmail.com> Maybe they can do a romantic radio drama called... The Bridges of Addison County (couldn't resist! I _think_ their signal reaches Middlebury...) From eric@ericaiese.com Mon Mar 5 12:50:06 2007 From: eric@ericaiese.com (Eric Aiese) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:50:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4886.24.161.16.92.1173117006.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> > Well, if they're correctly designed they have a *rule* for the > change-over rather than a specific date (which would have to be > fiddled every year). The problem this year is that the rule has changed -- Congress moved the changeover from April to the second week of March, so any existing formulas would derive the wrong day. On the bright side, this was announced several years ago, iirc, so recent software should be aware of it. I guess I'll be up late Saturday night to make sure we stay on the air. Eric From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Mar 5 13:05:41 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:05:41 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <4886.24.161.16.92.1173117006.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> References: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <4886.24.161.16.92.1173117006.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> Message-ID: <17900.23541.798740.957433@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > The problem this year is that the rule has changed -- Congress moved the > changeover from April to the second week of March, so any existing > formulas would derive the wrong day. I'm on the timezone mailing-list, so I have known about this for some time. > On the bright side, this was announced several years ago, iirc, so recent > software should be aware of it. Energy Policy Act of 2005. -GAWollman From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Mar 5 13:21:10 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:21:10 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <17900.23541.798740.957433@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <4886.24.161.16.92.1173117006.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> <17900.23541.798740.957433@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <17900.24470.242003.599376@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < Energy Policy Act of 2005. For what it's worth, this has been much more of an issue for countries outside the U.S. that have in recent times followed the U.S. rules, since each country had to decide whether or not to adopt the new dates. Some did, some didn't, and some will probably not decide until Monday. Canada is a particularly difficult case as under Canadian constitutional conventions, standard time is a provincial responsibility -- so there is separate legislation for each of the ten provinces and three territories; Nunavut was the last Canadian jurisdiction to adopt the new rules. Why Congress couldn't have adopted the EU rules I do not know. Perhaps it would have made too much sense. -GAWollman From lglavin@mail.com Mon Mar 5 13:29:32 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:29:32 -0500 Subject: WTWK Burlington VT (area) moves to women's talk Message-ID: <20070305182942.2D7F31CE305@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: "Bill O'Neill" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: WTWK Burlington VT (area) moves to women's talk >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:58:15 -0500 >Maybe they can do a romantic radio drama called... >The Bridges of Addison County >(couldn't resist! I _think_ their signal reaches Middlebury...) (With apologies to Hank Williams, Sr): their theme song could be "Your Chittendon heart will tell on you..." = HIPAA Security Services We offer custom compliance programs and solutions to acquirers, merchants and service providers to help meet the Payment Card Industry Data Security Standard. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=f1c1a07c5fabf78c9eb8fa16c51323a8 From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Mar 5 17:50:38 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:50:38 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <475911.58351.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <17900.24470.242003.599376@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <475911.58351.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <17900.40638.787691.759798@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > ObRadio: Besides the obvious switching of power-up/power-down times, > will this affect DXing in any way, e.g. the extra hour of daylight > allows for different-than-normal catches at this time of the year? There is no "extra hour of daylight", so no. Now, if it's your habit to get up at a fixed time every day, and if that time happens to be before sunrise, you might have more time to DX. -GAWollman From lglavin@mail.com Mon Mar 5 16:14:09 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:14:09 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend Message-ID: <20070305211410.1BD8A1BF297@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Roger Kolakowski" >To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" >Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:40:01 -0500 >This should be an interesting weekend or week for the radio and TV >engineers. As DST is coming early this year, and many of the electronic >products not to mention Windows based computers have an automatic DST change >built in for a different change-over date, technicians should be running >around all week making sure they don't end up with a lost hour assuming >their "network" feeds move ahead an hour Sunday morning. >It could be an interesting Sunday, then again, it could be Y2K all over >again... >"much ado about nothing." >Don't forget your TIVO, computers and VCR's at home though! >Roger >WA1KAT Oh, and another thing: FCC Public Notice DA 07-938 announces significant changes in "daytime" AM stations' pre-sunrise and post-sunset power measurements. (These rules apparently apply to strict daytimers like Boston's WILD-AM 1090, and full-timers with flea-power at night like WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge) Information about these changes has already appeared at radio-info.com's Boston, Northern New England and Engineering boards, but so far not here at the website of record. The FCC's URL for determining the authorized powers for affected stations as of the start of Daylight Savings Time is: http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov.prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/sta_search.htm (Enter station call letters at top...AM Radio is the default choice; scroll down to 'Submit'; over at right of screen select 'Details'; at bottom of screen click on 'View correspondence'.) >From some of the comments on radio-info's Engineering board, news about these changes caught many unawares, with just days to make the requisite changes. I can hardly wait for Sunday night. = Beam Dynamics Engraving Laser Beam Dynamics a leading manufacturer of advanced laser machining solutions. Contact us online for an interactive tour of our laser systems and software, or for service in your area. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=7ab6a7f70d63d3b50ce3e1a11977f264 From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Mar 5 18:01:40 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:01:40 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <20070305211410.1BD8A1BF297@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070305211410.1BD8A1BF297@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <17900.41300.853528.307085@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > (These rules apparently apply to strict daytimers like Boston's WILD-AM 1090, > and full-timers with flea-power at night like WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge) Looks like a big win for Bob, anyway. WJIB gets to remain at full power until two hours after sunset, and WJTO can run at half power likewise. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Mon Mar 5 18:08:35 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:08:35 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <20070305211410.1BD8A1BF297@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on rolinin.bostonradio.org autolearn=failed version=3.1.7 rolinin.bostonradio.org References: <20070305211410.1BD8A1BF297@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on rolinin.bostonradio.org autolearn=failed version=3.1.7 rolinin.bostonradio.org Message-ID: <45ECA2F3.2020600@fybush.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: > Oh, and another thing: FCC Public Notice DA 07-938 announces significant > changes in "daytime" AM stations' pre-sunrise and post-sunset power measurements. > (These rules apparently apply to strict daytimers like Boston's WILD-AM 1090, > and full-timers with flea-power at night like WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge) > Information about these changes has already appeared at radio-info.com's > Boston, Northern New England and Engineering boards, but so far not here > at the website of record. The FCC's URL for determining the authorized > powers for affected stations as of the start of Daylight Savings Time is: > > http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov.prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/sta_search.htm > > (Enter station call letters at top...AM Radio is the default choice; > scroll down to 'Submit'; over at right of screen select 'Details'; > at bottom of screen click on 'View correspondence'.) > > >>From some of the comments on radio-info's Engineering board, news about > these changes caught many unawares, with just days to make the requisite > changes. I can hardly wait for Sunday night. It is significantly worse than that. The FCC apparently did something wrong when it was recalculating PSRAs and PSSAs, so most of those "new" power levels are incorrect, and the Commission's now pedaling furiously to get everything fixed before the weekend. Between the likelihood of broken automation and the simple confusion of these new power levels, it seems distinctly possible that there will be a number of stations operating at, shall we say, "unusual" powers or antenna patterns come next Sunday. I may drag myself out of bed before sunrise to hear what happens... s From sid@wrko.com Mon Mar 5 18:15:47 2007 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:15:47 -0700 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend Message-ID: >>Oh, and another thing: FCC Public Notice DA 07-938 announces significant changes in "daytime" AM stations' pre-sunrise and post-sunset power measurements. (These rules apparently apply to strict daytimers like Boston's WILD-AM 1090, and full-timers with flea-power at night like WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge) Information about these changes has already appeared at radio-info.com's Boston, Northern New England and Engineering boards, but so far not here at the website of record. The FCC's URL for determining the authorized powers for affected stations as of the start of Daylight Savings Time is: http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov.prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/sta_search.htm (Enter station call letters at top...AM Radio is the default choice; scroll down to 'Submit'; over at right of screen select 'Details'; at bottom of screen click on 'View correspondence'.)<< ...and they admitted this morning that most, if not all, new PSRA and PSSA authorizations were wrong. They're doing another computer run and hope to have the final figures by this weekend. If they don't get it done, they have promised some "guidance" for daytime and CH stations on their web site. What apparently tipped them off was a slew of complaints from stations which had their PSRA and/or PSSA power levels scaled back to lower levels than what they had previously, during the time period of the old DST rule. From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 17:18:05 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:18:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <17900.24470.242003.599376@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <475911.58351.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > Why Congress couldn't have adopted the EU rules I do not know. > Perhaps it would have made too much sense. ObRadio: Besides the obvious switching of power-up/power-down times, will this affect DXing in any way, e.g. the extra hour of daylight allows for different-than-normal catches at this time of the year? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 17:57:58 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:57:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <17900.40638.787691.759798@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <911951.34966.qm@web58309.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > There is no "extra hour of daylight", so no. What I should've said is "a time adjustment that will see many people awake more during sunlight hours." Or something along those lines. (Brain cells aren't firing up like usual.) > Now, if it's your habit > to get up at a fixed time every day, and if that time happens to be > before sunrise, you might have more time to DX. DXing also has to do with atmospheric conditions, from what I understand. I was curious as to what the conditions for DXing are like in mid-March as opposed to, say, early April, when the springing ahead occurred previously. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Mon Mar 5 21:29:39 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:29:39 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <000b01c75f3c$8a342c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <000b01c75f3c$8a342c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <45ECD213.8050808@ttlc.net> > Don't forget your TIVO, computers and VCR's at home though! > I called TiVo and they claim no user interaction is required. Current Software should handle the time change automatically. I anybody has info to the contrary, please advise! I don't want to lose any shows. Thanks From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Mar 6 00:58:56 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:58:56 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <17900.24470.242003.599376@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu>, <17900.23541.798740.957433@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu>, <17900.24470.242003.599376@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <45ECBCD0.21942.812ADA@joe.attorneyross.com> On 5 Mar 2007 at 13:21, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Why Congress couldn't have adopted the EU rules I do not know. > Perhaps it would have made too much sense. What are the EU rules? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Mar 6 00:58:56 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:58:56 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <000b01c75f3c$8a342c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray>, <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <45ECBCD0.677.812B68@joe.attorneyross.com> On 5 Mar 2007 at 10:53, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Well, if they're correctly designed they have a *rule* for the > change-over rather than a specific date (which would have to be > fiddled every year). I don't know about later versions of Windows, but in Windows 98SE, if you go to the Control Panel and click on "Date/Time," you get to a screen which contains an option to automatically adjust for DST. You can uncheck that option, so as to prevent the software from trying to adjust the time on the old dates. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@csail.mit.edu Tue Mar 6 01:32:57 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 01:32:57 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <45ECBCD0.21942.812ADA@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <17900.23541.798740.957433@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <17900.24470.242003.599376@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <45ECBCD0.21942.812ADA@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <17901.2841.703838.683221@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > What are the EU rules? In the rather terse description of the timezone database: # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule EU 1981 max - Mar lastSun 1:00u 1:00 S Rule EU 1996 max - Oct lastSun 1:00u 0 - This means that, starting in 1981 and running through the heat-death of the universe, EU countries will switch to DST on the last Sunday in March at 0100 UTC, and likewise from 1996 on they switch back to standard time on the last Sunday in October at 0100 UTC. The switch times are specified in UTC so that everyone switches throughout the whole EU at the same time (unlike here, where the switch happens an hour later in each time zone as you go west). As an attorney, you may be interested in Joseph S. Myers's essay "History of legal time in Britain", . The US and the EU have never agreed on the starting date, to my knowledge, which causes no end of confusion in the period between the two. (ObRadio: although the BBC World Service runs on "GMT" all the time, they typically do schedule changes at the same time as the time change. So the program that Eli introduces next Saturday morning at 1:30 will not be on at that time two Saturdays from now -- but if history is any guide, it will be back three Saturdays from now when the BBC schedule is rejiggered.) -GAWollman From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Mar 6 03:35:46 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 03:35:46 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend Message-ID: <20070306083546.B0D6583BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> >>There is no "extra hour of daylight", so no. Now, if it's your habit to get up at a fixed time every day, and if that time happens to be before sunrise, you might have more time to DX. One year I remember WBCN doing a bit where they proclaimed a great new development, "the 25th hour" (obtained in fall when clocks are turned back). "Another BCN-ovation..." My VCR (I still have one, for now) gives the option of Manual or Automatic clock settings AND it also allows you to either have it adjust for daylight saving time automatically or you can disable it (which is just what I did). The VCR is probably about 10 years old by now, and someday when I get a DVD-recorder I may just take the remainder of my videotapes and transfer them. (Among them: a box set of the entire Twin Peaks series and some highlights from previous cartoon-fan conventions; in later years, these highlights were put out on DVD rather than VHS but they never got around to putting out DVD versions of the previous years...) From radio88@radio88.net Tue Mar 6 03:37:49 2007 From: radio88@radio88.net (Todd Glickman) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 03:37:49 -0500 Subject: Daylight SAVING Time Message-ID: It's neither plural, nor possessive. Leave off the last "s" for SAVING: Daylight SAVING Time. But as others have mentioned, daylight is not saved... perhaps it should be called "Daylight Shifted Time"! -- Todd Glickman Associate Director, Office of Corporate Relations Massachusetts Institute of Technology, E38-400 292 Main Street, 4th Floor Cambridge, MA 02139 Email: glickman@mit.edu Phone: (617) 452-2457 Certified Broadcast Meteorologist WCBS Newsradio-880 New York City, NY Email: radio88@radio88.net From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue Mar 6 05:25:13 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:25:13 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <20070306083546.B0D6583BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070306083546.B0D6583BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Nelson Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2007 3:44 am Subject: Re: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend > > One year I remember WBCN doing a bit where they proclaimed > a great new development, "the 25th hour" (obtained in fall > when clocks are turned back). "Another BCN-ovation..." > not having to do with "time" management, but back in the 70's, didn't WVBF present the "25th hour" every night at midnight? or at least weeknights? - - Chuck Igo From ewerme@comcast.net Tue Mar 6 10:14:01 2007 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:14:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend Message-ID: <20070306151401.EFD9F43B48@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> A. Joseph Ross wrote: >On 5 Mar 2007 at 10:53, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> Well, if they're correctly designed they have a *rule* for the >> change-over rather than a specific date (which would have to be >> fiddled every year). >I don't know about later versions of Windows, but in Windows 98SE, if >you go to the Control Panel and click on "Date/Time," you get to a >screen which contains an option to automatically adjust for DST. You >can uncheck that option, so as to prevent the software from trying to >adjust the time on the old dates. The good news is that http://www.sharpebusinesssolutions.com/dst2007.htm offers Windows patches for the new savings time regime for Windows versions no longer support by Microsoft.. The bad news is that they are only for the NT line, the Windows 95, 98, ME do not have patches. I don't know where the Windows keeps rules, Unix/Linux has an extensive rule set with a complete history so it can propoerly display past time stamps. The many comments include references to sites like http://www.mccsc.edu/time.html for an unofficial but extensive description of Indiana and a stale link that should be http://www.lib.az.us/links/daylight.cfm that describes Arizona's rules. The Indiana page is a real hoot. There must be something in the air at the state capital, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill which apparently would not have legislated a value of pi as is commonly understood. Perhaps it's "time" to make sure my wind-up clocks still work. -Ric Werme \ From wollman@csail.mit.edu Tue Mar 6 11:08:37 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:08:37 -0500 Subject: Ownership research Message-ID: <17901.37381.619792.322650@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> I've been doing some research into the ownership of major station groups. Those of you who have visited the Archives recently will have noted that the Entercom stations now identify Joseph M. Field; like many formerly-private firms, Mr. Field structured his company so as to retain a majority vote for himself while selling the majority *economic* stake to the public. Conveniently for me, the FCC requires biennial reports on who actually does own and control every licensee. What about other station groups in the area? As is well known, CBS is controlled by Sumner Redstone through his company National Amusements. Rose City Radio (WWZN) is Paul Allen, and Beasley Broadcast Group (WRCA) is ultimately controlled by George G. Beasley. Multicultural (WLYN) is 51% owned by Arthur Liu -- the remaining 49% is owned by his wife Yvonne; similarly, ownership of Champion is split 51/49 between Herbert Hoffman and his son (?) Matthew. Salem belongs to the Atsinger-Epperson family (Mr. Atsinger is married to Mr. Epperson's sister, or vice versa, I forget which). An odd case is Greater Media. According to the most recent ownership reports, Greater is still owned by the Estate of Peter A. Bordes, several years his decease. Surely one would expect the estate to be settled by now? (It probably doesn't matter, since his executors are his widow, Lee Bordes, and his brother, John Bordes.) Another interesting one (moving now into the TV world) is Fox. Fox is only 81% owned by News Corp.; the remainder is owned by Rupert personally, through an unusual income trust structure. News Corp. itself is no longer controlled by Murdoch; thanks to his deal with Liberty Media he only has 31.2%; Liberty has another 19.1%. Entravision is another company which can be controlled by two people, when they choose to cooperate: Walter F. Ulloa (34.1%) and Philip C. Wilkinson (same). A third partner, Paul Zevnick, has only 14%. Univision has a large economic interest in Entravision, but has no voting rights for market-cap reasons. -GAWollman From sid@wrko.com Tue Mar 6 11:35:13 2007 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 09:35:13 -0700 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend Message-ID: >>The bad news is that they are only for the NT line, the Windows 95, 98, ME do not have patches. I don't know where the Windows keeps rules,<< Not bad news at all. The NT version of TZEDIT will work with *any* 32-bit version of Windows. Through all the versions from 95 through Vista, one thing that hasn't changed is the location of the registry keys which set the DST parameters. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From dave@skywaves.net Wed Mar 7 12:33:53 2007 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:33:53 -0500 Subject: FCC Rescinds New PSSAs and PSRAs Message-ID: <1ca001c760de$c6b25290$49a600d8@skywaves.net> Hi, all- Apparently, there were so many problems with the program the FCC used to calculate the new PSRA and PSSA authorizations that they have to rework it. All authorizations issued last week are being rescinded. You can continue to use your current authorizations, excep that there may be something in the final release about using the April authorizations in March. -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. 97 Webster Street Worcester, MA 01603 508-425-7176 From lglavin@mail.com Wed Mar 7 17:07:34 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:07:34 -0500 Subject: Emily Litella Lives Message-ID: <20070307220736.BDFFF1BF297@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Emily Litella lives (although sadly her creator does not); Charles Miller of the FCC has alerted everybody about, you know, those PSSA/PSRA changes on Sunday? NEVER MIND! Everybody just do what you would have done had E.S.T ended in April as in days of yore. No daytime power for WJIB-AM for two hours after sunset. = Jotto Desks & Laptop Stands Laptop stands & car desks for any vehicle, great pricing and service. Free shipping and fast service. No drill and universal stands to fit your vehicle. Right product at the right price. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=32b514ab03dc10a1608df363bb9a57b4 From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Mar 7 18:04:12 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:04:12 -0500 Subject: Emily Litella Lives References: <20070307220736.BDFFF1BF297@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <003a01c7610e$2f109200$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Well, there WAS a little good news for daytimers in the FCC's message: April begins on March 11 this year. And since the Funny Cookie Company probably will still be screwing around with the calculations in October, I'm betting that October is going to contunue until the end of DST this year. (That is, until mid-November; which is what, October 46th or something like that?) -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: Emily Litella Lives > Emily Litella lives (although sadly her creator does not); Charles > Miller of the FCC has alerted everybody about, you know, those > PSSA/PSRA changes on Sunday? NEVER MIND! Everybody just do what > you would have done had E.S.T ended in April as in days of yore. > No daytime power for WJIB-AM for two hours after sunset. > > = > Jotto Desks & Laptop Stands > Laptop stands & car desks for any vehicle, great pricing and service. Free shipping and fast service. No drill and universal stands to fit your vehicle. Right product at the right price. > http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=32b514ab03dc10a1608df363 bb9a57b4 > > From sid@wrko.com Wed Mar 7 19:35:14 2007 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:35:14 -0700 Subject: FCC Rescinds New PSSAs and PSRAs Message-ID: >>Apparently, there were so many problems with the program the FCC used to calculate the new PSRA and PSSA authorizations that they have to rework it. All authorizations issued last week are being rescinded. You can continue to use your current authorizations, excep that there may be something in the final release about using the April authorizations in March.<< The final release: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-1076A1.pdf Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed Mar 7 20:32:41 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:32:41 -0500 Subject: Herald: Ch 4 going back to "WBZ" brand In-Reply-To: <17764.44547.4804.410357@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <17764.44547.4804.410357@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <45EF67B9.1070700@ttlc.net> Garrett Wollman wrote: > ObBroadcasting: There's one traffic reporter working for MetroShadow > in Boston who says "donton" (downtown) like a Pittsburgher. More than > one of his colleagues says "eat" instead of "eight", which is > apparently the mark of a Philadelphian. > From time to time the Canadian heritage of one or more of the Traffic Reporters comes "oot" when saying "out" Also, Karen Perrier seems to call route 495 "4 'n' 95" The 'n' is subdued, but definitely there. From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed Mar 7 20:38:48 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:38:48 -0500 Subject: WBZ News Promo Message-ID: <45EF6928.2080206@ttlc.net> I've noticed that WBZ is touting (frequently) that Ed Walsh is "Exclusively On WBZ NewsRadio 1030" Is this just empty marketing hype? Are there Major Market anchors that work for multiple stations? Are they emphasizing the fact that he does not appear on WBZ Channel 4? From wollman@csail.mit.edu Wed Mar 7 21:00:21 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:00:21 -0500 Subject: WBZ News Promo In-Reply-To: <45EF6928.2080206@ttlc.net> References: <45EF6928.2080206@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <17903.28213.720786.432469@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I've noticed that WBZ is touting (frequently) that Ed Walsh is > "Exclusively On WBZ NewsRadio 1030" > Are they emphasizing the fact that he does not appear on WBZ Channel 4? They may be emphasizing the fact that he doesn't work for Metro. -GAWollman From m1bz@hotmail.com Wed Mar 7 22:27:24 2007 From: m1bz@hotmail.com (Michael E) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:27:24 -0500 Subject: WBZ News Promo In-Reply-To: <45EF6928.2080206@ttlc.net> Message-ID: Perhaps they're saying that WBZ is the only radio station where you'll find Ed Walsh. I don't think TV has anything to do with it. >From: Roger Kirk >To: bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: WBZ News Promo >Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:38:48 -0500 > >I've noticed that WBZ is touting (frequently) that Ed Walsh is "Exclusively >On WBZ NewsRadio 1030" > >Is this just empty marketing hype? Are there Major Market anchors that >work for multiple stations? > >Are they emphasizing the fact that he does not appear on WBZ Channel 4? > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Win a Zune??make MSN? your homepage for your chance to win! http://homepage.msn.com/zune?icid=hmetagline From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Mar 8 07:41:25 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:41:25 -0500 Subject: WBZ News Promo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45F00475.8030103@ttlc.net> Michael E wrote: > Perhaps they're saying that WBZ is the only radio station where you'll > find Ed Walsh. I don't think TV has anything to do with it. Perhaps, but they don't say the same about Kendall Buell, Gregg Jensen, Carl Stevens, Laurie Kirby, Don Huff, Anthony Silva, et al. From m1bz@hotmail.com Thu Mar 8 08:54:42 2007 From: m1bz@hotmail.com (Michael E) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 08:54:42 -0500 Subject: WBZ News Promo In-Reply-To: <45F00475.8030103@ttlc.net> Message-ID: I think it's meant to spotlight Ed Walsh, who's anchoring the news in the morning, the most important daypart. The promo is probably also trying o generate a bit of buzz about Ed, who's in Gary LaPierre's old slot. >From: Roger Kirk >To: Michael E >CC: bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: WBZ News Promo >Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:41:25 -0500 > >Michael E wrote: >>Perhaps they're saying that WBZ is the only radio station where you'll >>find Ed Walsh. I don't think TV has anything to do with it. > >Perhaps, but they don't say the same about Kendall Buell, Gregg Jensen, >Carl Stevens, Laurie Kirby, Don Huff, Anthony Silva, et al. > > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft? Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ From ewerme@comcast.net Thu Mar 8 12:14:03 2007 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:14:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: FCC Rescinds New PSSAs and PSRAs Message-ID: <20070308171403.688A843B7D@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> >Apparently, there were so many problems with the program the FCC used to >calculate the new PSRA and PSSA authorizations that they have to rework it. >All authorizations issued last week are being rescinded. You can continue to >use your current authorizations, excep that there may be something in the >final release about using the April authorizations in March. If I had a heart, I'd feel sorry for all you poor guys using Windows systems to wrestle with the FCC and your clocks. http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=307&tag=nl.e589 excerpts: Microsoft's online DST chat room - which Microsoft is currently keeping open from 6 a.m. PST to 9 p.m. PST to handle customers' questions - is full of customers who can't get their DST patches to work. Microsoft support phone lines are jammed with users with DST problems. "I was requested to call Microsoft support because of my particular problem," Marsh said. "I called Microsoft support. I was 117th in the queue and was informed the wait was 3 hours. I waited 4 hrs and 45 minutes but no one ever picked up. If I hear Microsoft hold music again I think I'll go mad. The bottom line is 'Hello Microsoft! There is a problem!' and we have something like 42 hours to figure this out." Jeez, it almost sounds worthwhile staying up until 0700 UTC or whatever it is Sunday AM. Or watching C-Span when the Congressional hearings happen. Or start an office pool as to when standard time returns this year. Wouldn't it just be icing on the cake if WHDH-TV loses the feed to WLVI-TV then too? -Ric Werme From rogerkola@aol.com Thu Mar 8 12:42:46 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:42:46 -0500 Subject: FCC Rescinds New PSSAs and PSRAs References: <20070308171403.688A843B7D@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> Message-ID: <000801c761a9$2f025dc0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> For all you luddites out there like me ;-) Microsoft actually included a time zone editor on the Operating system CD's or Floppies (remember them? I still have a full distribution of WIN 95 on Floppies) In case you can't find your setup CD or want to save some time...try the link below www.softshape.com/cham/manual/tzedit.htm I used it to check another patch to see if it had done anything and it displayed my changes as correct (until the government gets involved again) If using an unknown patch makes you nervous you can google TZEDIT and microsoft and you will come up with a page that looks similar to this and will give you an instant headache: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/886775 Looks like the patches work from Win95 to Win2000, but your mileage will vary, of course... What is hard to believe is that Microsoft has the answer but won't give it out because the products are unsupported. Then again I can't buy leaded gas for my Edsel ;-( Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric Werme" To: "Microsoft's online DST chat room - which Microsoft is currently keeping open > from 6 a.m. PST to 9 p.m. PST to handle customers' questions - is full of > customers who can't get their DST patches to work. Microsoft support phone > lines are jammed with users with DST problems. > > "I was requested to call Microsoft support because of my particular > problem," Marsh said. "I called Microsoft support. I was 117th in the queue > and was informed the wait was 3 hours. I waited 4 hrs and 45 minutes but no > one ever picked up. If I hear Microsoft hold music again I think I'll go > mad. The bottom line is 'Hello Microsoft! There is a problem!' and we have > something like 42 hours to figure this out." > > Jeez, it almost sounds worthwhile staying up until 0700 UTC or whatever it > is Sunday AM. Or watching C-Span when the Congressional hearings happen. > Or start an office pool as to when standard time returns this year. > Wouldn't it just be icing on the cake if WHDH-TV loses the feed to WLVI-TV > then too? > > -Ric Werme > From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 8 12:58:57 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:58:57 -0500 Subject: WRKO: Howie who? Message-ID: <20070308175859.B8E6883986@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Those on the WRKO mailing list are getting messages from PD Jason Wolfe apologizing for the fact that Red Sox exhibition games are pre-empting Rush Limbaugh on weekdays. He assures listeners that it was part of the contract with the Sox that 'RKO (and not 'EEI) carry the exhibition games, and once the season starts all weekday afternoon games will be on WEEI except for "the two opening days" (opening day at KC and then Fenway opening day) which will be on WRKO. He fails to mention Howie Carr's name--and Howie is losing at least one hour of his show due to these games. However the email does mention a live broadcast of Howie's show from the Harp tomorrow. Howie fans have had to resort to live streaming (unless they can pick up WGAN in Portland). Last Monday the Finneran/Carr feud was front page news in the Herald but those who wanted to hear Howie talk about it on WRKO found the Sox instead, and when they went to RKO's site to get the streamcast they found...Fox Sports Radio instead. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Mar 8 13:22:26 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:22:26 -0500 Subject: Howie who? References: <20070308175859.B8E6883986@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000901c761ae$bde73b00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I'm sure the Finneran-Carr feud is attracting listeners, but can't you imagine Jason Wolfe calling his two stars into his office (together, or if necessary, separately) and saying to them, "I want you boys to go after each other on the air. I hired Tom so you could do it, Howie. Boston radio hasn't had anything like this in as long as I can remember. It'll send ratings through the roof. Now, get behind those microphones and earn your money!" It's good radio and Carr may really not like Finneran, but the whole thing is basically just a staged publicity stunt. Does anybody not understand that? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: WRKO: Howie who? > Those on the WRKO mailing list are getting messages from PD > Jason Wolfe apologizing for the fact that Red Sox exhibition games are pre-empting Rush Limbaugh on weekdays. He assures listeners > that it was part of the contract with the Sox that 'RKO (and not > 'EEI) carry the exhibition games, and once the season starts all > weekday afternoon games will be on WEEI except for "the two > opening days" (opening day at KC and then Fenway opening day) > which will be on WRKO. > > He fails to mention Howie Carr's name--and Howie is losing at least one hour of his show due to these games. However the email does > mention a live broadcast of Howie's show from the Harp tomorrow. > Howie fans have had to resort to live streaming (unless they can pick up WGAN in Portland). Last Monday the Finneran/Carr feud > was front page news in the Herald but those who wanted to hear > Howie talk about it on WRKO found the Sox instead, and when they > went to RKO's site to get the streamcast they found...Fox Sports > Radio instead. > From me@billoneill.us Thu Mar 8 13:25:01 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:25:01 -0500 Subject: WRKO: Howie who? In-Reply-To: <20070308175859.B8E6883986@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070308175859.B8E6883986@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <45F054FD.7080907@billoneill.us> Bob Nelson wrote: > and when they > went to RKO's site to get the streamcast they found...Fox Sports > Radio instead. > Brilliant. Why didn't they also offer a live stream of Howie? Since Carr was pulled from WVMT (620 Burlington), he was replaced with the unremarkable Jerry Doyle Show. Bill O'Neill From me@billoneill.us Thu Mar 8 13:27:27 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:27:27 -0500 Subject: Howie who? In-Reply-To: <000901c761ae$bde73b00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20070308175859.B8E6883986@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <000901c761ae$bde73b00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <45F0558F.7070002@billoneill.us> Dan Strassberg wrote: > It's good radio and Carr may really not like Finneran, but the whole > thing is basically just a staged publicity stunt. Does anybody not > understand that? That might be giving station management a bit too much credit. I would imagine that management is more concerned about the jock lounge coffee contract. Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 8 13:31:32 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:31:32 -0500 Subject: Howie who? Message-ID: <20070308183134.6359D1CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Dan wrote: >>It's good radio and Carr may really not like Finneran, but the whole thing is basically just a staged publicity stunt. Does anybody not understand that? Oh sure, I do and have said as much. But it was kinda odd to see Jason's email to "WRKO insiders" in which he apologizes to Rush's fans (who admittedly can still hear him on stations from Providence, Worcester, and N.H.) but he fails to mention Howie and his fans. (With WCRN also carrying the Sox, over the air listeners had to try to strain to pick up WGAN from Portland or maybe WXTK from the Cape--unless they too had the Sox--and the biggest blunder was the WRKO webstream set to Fox Sports Radio on the day when the Herald front cover may have attracted some listeners!) I went on WRKO's messageboard and said Howie is to WRKO what David "Big Papi" Ortiz is to the Sox; this is how you treat your franchise player? :) = Laptop Screen Replacments : 15" $389 Parts & Labor. Backlight, Inverter, Hinges, Pwr. Jack $198. Houston. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=335014f07d31f96808c1443a746558dc From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 8 13:35:37 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:35:37 -0500 Subject: WRKO: Howie who? Message-ID: <20070308183538.97D771CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Bill wrote: >>Brilliant. Why didn't they also offer a live stream of Howie? Since Carr was pulled from WVMT (620 Burlington), he was replaced with the unremarkable Jerry Doyle Show Normally they would have but someone had it set to Fox Sports by mistake. I did find a stream of the show via WNTK in Newport/New London, NH. I actually suggested that pre-empted hour of Howie could have been placed on sister station WMKK 93.7 WRKO says that the weekday afternoon games will normally be on WEEI during the regular season. Note however that this would pre-empt part of their "Big Show" which does well in the ratings... though they've done it before. For the record there aren't many weekday daytime games in reg season--sometimes there are "getaway days" where they play in the afternoon (a series might be Tue night, Wed night, then Thu afternoon)... = Ford Realty Serving the north Georgia mountains. Homes, log cabins, lots and property. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=9ce5436be233137d4227e3b9354f88e7 From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Mar 8 16:05:53 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:05:53 -0500 Subject: FCC Rescinds New PSSAs and PSRAs Message-ID: <000b01c761c5$8feb69d0$7f151bac@WHDHXP237> > -----Original Message----- > Wouldn't it just be icing on the cake if WHDH-TV loses the > feed to WLVI-TV then too? > > -Ric Werme No it wouldn't! Larry Weil WHDH/WLVI Master Control Operator From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Mar 8 16:16:26 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:16:26 -0500 Subject: DST In-Reply-To: <000b01c761c5$8feb69d0$7f151bac@WHDHXP237> References: <000b01c761c5$8feb69d0$7f151bac@WHDHXP237> Message-ID: <17904.32042.717282.310348@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Larry Weil > WHDH/WLVI Master Control Operator Which reminds me... How do you handle the DST transitions in master? Is there a gap in the log, or do you just run straight through and make up the time difference at the end of the shift? -GAWollman From stephanie@gordsven.com Thu Mar 8 16:26:18 2007 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:26:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: WRKO: Howie who? In-Reply-To: <20070308183538.97D771CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070308183538.97D771CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <51064.12.37.144.130.1173389178.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> On Thu, March 8, 2007 13:35, Bob Nelson wrote: > Since Carr was pulled from WVMT (620 Burlington), he was replaced > with the unremarkable Jerry Doyle Show Jerry Doyle is a much better actor (remember him in Babylon 5?) than he is a radio commentator. I've heard his show on the occasional wild-chicken truck ride up to the Boston Metro (on whatever AM stations I pick up through Connecticut). Sounds kind of boring. And that's not just his politics.... stephanie From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Mar 8 16:27:06 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:27:06 -0500 Subject: DST In-Reply-To: <17904.32042.717282.310348@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <000c01c761c8$87223d30$7f151bac@WHDHXP237> > > > Larry Weil > > WHDH/WLVI Master Control Operator > > Which reminds me... How do you handle the DST transitions in master? > Is there a gap in the log, or do you just run straight > through and make up the time difference at the end of the shift? > > -GAWollman The station's master clock is set automatically by GPS at 2 AM. But the log continues until 5 AM when we change to the next broadcast day. It is up to the programming department to omit or add an hour of programming to the schedule when the change is made. Both stations are local at the time so nothing has to be interfaced with the networks. From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 8 16:34:05 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:34:05 -0500 Subject: WRKO: Howie who? Message-ID: <20070308213408.2FD0C83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Haven't heard too much of it myself though I did like an interview he did with an actor from "The Cosby Show" talking about how conservatives in Hollywood can be shunned for their politics (from his own experience). Doyle did relate that sometimes acting, as a career, isn't as great as it may seem. I prefer Ingraham on WTKK. I know WTKK seems to be the Westwood One "affiliate" of sorts for this area but I wouldn't mind it if WRKO put Dennis Miller in that slot (from W1) instead (Miller's show, starting later this month, actually will be aired in the mornings). The deal with WRKO is that when there's no sports, they run Savage and then Doyle; if there's a 7 pm game Savage airs afterward. From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Mar 9 12:12:57 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 12:12:57 -0500 Subject: WCRN, higher power, and the Red Sox Message-ID: <20070309171318.13BBB83986@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> An article from Worcester Business Journal talks about the addition of the Red Sox to WCRN. A chart shows the station's lackluster ratings under the talk format, but it is hoped the addition of the Red Sox and the new 50 kW signal at night will help. http://wbjournal.com/j/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1342&Itemid=142 The arrangement is that Entercom's WVEI 1440 and WCRN will both carry the Sox, but Entercom pockets the ad dollars. WCRN gets the Sox to make the station more well known and help in the ratings. Why two stations? Check out their night patterns on radio-locator.com WVEI (night) pushes to the west, NW, and SW at night. The WCRN (night) chart--admittedly for the current signal only--shows them pushing to the east, NE, and SE. (I don't know why the WCRN page at radio-locator doesn't show the 50kW night pattern) This will help the listeners in MetroWest as both WRKO and WEEI (WEEI will be doing Wed night games or Friday nights or something) push north-south after dark. From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Mar 9 14:36:55 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:36:55 -0500 Subject: WCRN, higher power, and the Red Sox References: <20070309171318.13BBB83986@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <003201c7628f$8dee5280$19eefea9@dstrassberg> No! The WVEI information is backwards! This is an error in the FCC's CDBS. I brought the problem to Entercom's attention a couple of years ago and they chose to ignore it. To fix what you see at radio-locator.com, just flip the pattern 180 degrees about the axis of the towers (80.2 degrees). However, if you have a plot of the augmented pattern, fixing it is not so easy because, although the unuagmented pattern is flipped, the augmentations are not. The result is a pattern plot that is a complete mess and is not easily corrected. If WVEI's night coverage were what you see at radio-locator (or in any plot based on the CDBS data) the station could not be licensed to Worcester because the transmitter site is west of Worcester (as is WCRN's, but WCRN's is about 10 miles further west) and WVEI's radiation minima appear (erroneously) to lie to the east of the transmitter site (that is to say, over Worcester). In fact, the minima lie west of Worcester. WVEI and WCRN have rather similar night patterns but WCRN covers a lot more real estate because of its higher power, lower frequency, and very likely a lower NIF. I don't know what WVEI's NIF is, but from what I've heard people say, 1440 is pretty noisy around here at night. WCRN's NIF is about 10.5 mVm, which means that when it runs the full 50 kW at night (I don't think they are doing that yet; most likely they are running 12.5 kW; the FCC customarily limits directional AMs to 1/4 of the proposed power until a license to cover is granted), its NIF contour will reach Framingham. The signal should be easily listenable to 128 and still pretty good--except for the awful fades--quite far inside of 128. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:12 PM Subject: WCRN, higher power, and the Red Sox > An article from Worcester Business Journal talks about the addition of the Red Sox to WCRN. A chart > shows the station's lackluster ratings under the talk format, but it is hoped the addition of > the Red Sox and the new 50 kW signal at night will help. > > http://wbjournal.com/j/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1342&Itemid =142 > > The arrangement is that Entercom's WVEI 1440 and WCRN will both carry the Sox, but Entercom > pockets the ad dollars. WCRN gets the Sox to make the station more well known and help in > the ratings. Why two stations? Check out their night patterns on radio-locator.com > > WVEI (night) pushes to the west, NW, and SW at night. The WCRN (night) chart--admittedly for the current > signal only--shows them pushing to the east, NE, and SE. (I don't know why the WCRN > page at radio-locator doesn't show the 50kW night pattern) This will help the listeners > in MetroWest as both WRKO and WEEI (WEEI will be doing Wed night games or Friday > nights or something) push north-south after dark. > > From lglavin@mail.com Fri Mar 9 15:39:03 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:39:03 -0500 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies Message-ID: <20070309203904.2348D1CE306@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> For several years, non-comm WFCR-FM 88.5 in Amherst has simulcast many of its news and talk programming on a very-directional 5,000-watt daytimer, WPNI-AM 1430 COL also Amherst. According to the Springfield Republican newspaper, that arrangement will soon cease, and all of this programming will transfer to full-time WNNZ-AM 640, 50,000 watts days...1,000 watts at night. AM 640 currently has a mostly satellite-delivered sports format with some collegiate PBP. WFCR will not own WNNZ, but has entered into an LMA with (gasp!) Clear Channel Communications. Last fall, CCU declared that there was more money to be made in sports than in liberal talk as it prepared to flip its Madison, WI FM outlet; now apparently sports has turned out to be a loser in Western Massachusetts, especially since Entercomm introduced an FM sports station into the area. WFCR has been becoming an even greater presence in the 413 area code by sprouting new translators in many of the hill towns out there. The switcheroo is slated to happen in April; April 2nd to let people know they're serious. = J-B Wholesale Pet Supply We carry a huge selection of dog beds. 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And by the way, if you enter W260AS at fcc.gov and check the coverage area contour, the new application means it doesn't get into Lawrence at all...when its propose antenna site had previously been a hill overlooking The Loop shopping center in Methuen, some parts of Lawrence did get a signal. = Henderson, NV Executive/Virtual Offices Our executive office suites include all services in the monthly rent. Receptionist, conference rooms, Internet, flexible lease terms and more all included in a Class A building. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=4ef29e5ebb6ea58d420a2417f8793cf7 From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Mar 9 23:09:49 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:09:49 -0500 Subject: WESX on the move? Message-ID: <002301c762c9$f3f7cb80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> A recent flurry of activity in applications to the FCC has Principal Broadcasting trying to move it's transmitter to "1147 Rear Western Avenue in Lynn" and change it's COL to Saugus. While I don't understand where the COL change came in, the locations on the applications seemed to suddenly have changed from Salem to Saugus. The cost of all of this? A reduction in D/N power to 470 watts from 1KW. Supposedly some public notices have been made. A thought...if you broadcast mostly in a foreign language, can you make your public notices in that same language? ;-) Roger WA1KAT From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Mar 9 23:42:14 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:42:14 -0500 Subject: WESX on the move? References: <002301c762c9$f3f7cb80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <000c01c762ce$7ab33b60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> BTW...1147 Rear Western Avenue in Lynn puts the tower on the east side of the Saugus River across Western Avenue from the GE Plant. Probably can reach Saugus with 500 watts from there... Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kolakowski" Subject: WESX on the move? > A recent flurry of activity in applications to the FCC has Principal > Broadcasting trying to move it's transmitter to "1147 Rear Western Avenue in > Lynn" and change it's COL to Saugus. > From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Mar 10 04:34:30 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:34:30 -0500 Subject: WESX on the move? Message-ID: <20070310093430.C09A483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> >>147 Rear Western Avenue in Lynn That sounds like where WLYN's tower is/was. Go to http://maps.google.com and type that address in; click "Hybrid" to see an aerial photo plus street names. It looks like it's behind CAP's Auto Parts and across from the G.E. near the Belden Bly bridge over the Saugus River. (WROL down the road from them...) From nostaticatall@charter.net Sat Mar 10 11:22:38 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:22:38 -0500 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: <20070309203904.2348D1CE306@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070309203904.2348D1CE306@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: I thought that WPNI ran different NPR programming than WFCR. As I understood it, 88.5 would run the main programs (Morning Edition, All Things Considered, etc.) along with some local fare while 1430 carried primarily alternate shows that didn't clear on the FM. It seems to be a waste to run the exact same programming on 88.5 and 1430 since the FM signal is far superior throughout all of WPNI's footprint. Now that WNNZ will be working with WFCR and the two stations are some distance apart, will it be a straight simulcast or will 640 break away to run some different shows? Also, is Springfield one of the markets Clear Channel is spinning off in it's move to go private? Maybe the LMA of WNNZ will become an outright purchase somewhere down the road.. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Mar 9, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: > For several years, non-comm WFCR-FM 88.5 in Amherst has simulcast many > of > its news and talk programming on a very-directional 5,000-watt > daytimer, > WPNI-AM 1430 COL also Amherst. According to the Springfield Republican > newspaper, that arrangement will soon cease, and all of this > programming > will transfer to full-time WNNZ-AM 640, 50,000 watts days...1,000 > watts at night. > AM 640 currently has a mostly satellite-delivered sports format with > some > collegiate PBP. WFCR will not own WNNZ, but has entered into an LMA > with > (gasp!) Clear Channel Communications. Last fall, CCU declared that > there was more money to be made in sports than in liberal talk as it > prepared to flip its Madison, WI FM outlet; now apparently sports has > turned out to be a loser in Western Massachusetts, especially since > Entercomm introduced an FM sports station into the area. WFCR has been > becoming an even greater presence in the 413 area code by sprouting > new translators in many of the hill towns out there. The switcheroo is > slated to happen in April; April 2nd to let people know they're > serious. From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Mar 10 12:17:08 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:17:08 -0500 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies Message-ID: <20070310171708.ACE1783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> >>I thought that WPNI ran different NPR programming than WFCR. According to a link on the WFCR site, WPNI runs (Weekdays) Morning Edition, On Point, Fresh Air, Talk of the Nation, The World, Marketplace and BBC World Service. (Weekends) Weekend Edition, On the Media, Whad Ya Know, Car Talk, Tavis Smiley, This American Life, Wait Wait Don't Tell Me, etc. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Mar 10 11:56:45 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:56:45 -0500 Subject: WESX on the move? References: <002301c762c9$f3f7cb80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <000c01c762ce$7ab33b60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <002301c76339$5530dda0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> WESX can't move its transmitter site to Lynn and meet the CoL requirements for covering Salem. Maybe the proposed site can meet the requirements for Saugus. I knew that the new owner--Otto Miiller--wanted to move the Tx--he claimed to better serve the audience he wants to serve--but I think, in reality, because the move would enable him to sell the current site and maybe get enough for it that the station will have, in effect, cost him nothing. My theory was that he was going to buy WLYN from Arthur Liu, who would, in turn, by WXKS (AM) from Clear Channel. I guess I was wrong. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kolakowski" To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:42 PM Subject: Re: WESX on the move? > BTW...1147 Rear Western Avenue in Lynn puts the tower on the east side of > the Saugus River across Western Avenue from the GE Plant. Probably can reach > Saugus with 500 watts from there... > > Roger > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Kolakowski" > > Subject: WESX on the move? > > > > A recent flurry of activity in applications to the FCC has Principal > > Broadcasting trying to move it's transmitter to "1147 Rear Western Avenue > in > > Lynn" and change it's COL to Saugus. > > > From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Sat Mar 10 11:56:18 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:56:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <708498.11989.qm@web58314.mail.re3.yahoo.com> David Tomm wrote: > I thought that WPNI ran different NPR programming than WFCR. As I > understood it, 88.5 would run the main programs (Morning Edition, All > > Things Considered, etc.) along with some local fare while 1430 > carried > primarily alternate shows that didn't clear on the FM. It seems to > be > a waste to run the exact same programming on 88.5 and 1430 since the > FM > signal is far superior throughout all of WPNI's footprint. > > Now that WNNZ will be working with WFCR and the two stations are some > > distance apart, will it be a straight simulcast or will 640 break > away > to run some different shows? > > Also, is Springfield one of the markets Clear Channel is spinning off > > in it's move to go private? Maybe the LMA of WNNZ will become an > outright purchase somewhere down the road.. A donation might be better move (write-off) tax-wise for Clear Channel. And did WPNI run any commercials? I understood that they didn't. Does NPR allow affiliates holding commercial licenses or doing what WFCR does (leasing out a station with a commercial license) to run commercial advertising? ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Mar 10 13:29:50 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:29:50 -0500 Subject: WESX on the move? References: <20070310093430.C09A483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <004101c76345$bceb9f00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I looked at the application. The proposed site is indeed the WLYN site. The app acknowledges prohibited overlap with WMKI. The night coverage of Saugus is only a little more than half of the normal minimum of 80% of the CoL. It is, of course, better than the coverage of Salem from the propsed site, which is zero percent at night. The engineer who prepared the application does not have an especially good reputation but there is no directional antenna design involved in this app, so maybe this job plays to her strengths rather than to her weaknesses. One of the mysteries is the statement that "the existing site has become unavailable." That was the only reason I found for why the move is necessary. Usually, applications explain forced moves more completely. I suspect that the existing site really has not become unavailable because, if it had, there would be a more complete explanation of the reason for its becoming unavailable. As long as the station is not being evicted, I don't think the FCC will aceept "the site has become unavailable" as an adequate explanation for a proposed move. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "Roger Kolakowski" ; "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 4:34 AM Subject: Re: WESX on the move? > >>147 Rear Western Avenue in > Lynn > > That sounds like where WLYN's tower is/was. Go to http://maps.google.com and type > that address in; click "Hybrid" to see an aerial photo plus street names. It > looks like it's behind CAP's Auto Parts and across from the G.E. near the > Belden Bly bridge over the Saugus River. (WROL down the road from them...) > From me@billoneill.us Sat Mar 10 12:39:42 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:39:42 -0500 Subject: Clear Channel Cash-out Message-ID: <45F2ED5E.5040005@billoneill.us> What are Clear Channel's plans after it has divested many of the signals in the queue? More billboards? All-Hit in China? Bill O'Neill From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Sat Mar 10 17:04:23 2007 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:04:23 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Pru's Xmtr Coordinates And GoogleMap Message-ID: <45F32B67.4080007@Gmail.com> Alright, here is one for B-R-I's antenna/engineering gurus. There are 7 stations on the Prudential Center's antenna (92.9, 96.9, 100.7, 104.1, 105.7, 106.7 and 107.9). The official NAD83 coordinates are 42?20'50.35"N/71?4'57.18"W, or +42.347319/-71.08255: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/asrn-within-radius?dlat=42&mlat=20&slat=50.00&ns=N&dlon=71&mlon=4&slon=59.00&ew=W&nad=27&radius=0.5 If you plug it into GoogleMap (here, via WikiMapia), http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=42347319&x=-71082550&z=19&l=0&m=a&v=1 the coordinate point appears to be in the 5th or 6th room from the left, on the top or next to top floor!!??nowheres near the antenna's apparent coordinate point, which I would say should be (given likely dimensional/positional height perspective/distortion) somewheres about where the white and red sections meet, +42.347741/-71.082458, or 42?20'51.87"N/71?4'56.85"W: http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=42347741&x=-71082458&z=19&l=0&m=a&v=1 Is this legitimate offsetting (due to more dimensional/positional distortion than is apparent), positioning error on GoogleMap's part, or flawed coordinates (highly unlikely)? ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Sat Mar 10 17:41:26 2007 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:41:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: ABC HDTV audio out of sync Message-ID: <449896.37390.qm@web56809.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Was anyone watching the Busch Series race on ABC High Definition Saturday afternoon at about 5:20 PM? The audio was way out of sync - about 4 seconds behind the video on the commercial breaks, and during the actual race segments about 1 second behind the video. Would this have occurred at the network end, or at the local affiliate? Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From rogerkola@aol.com Sat Mar 10 17:56:44 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:56:44 -0500 Subject: WESX on the move? References: <002301c762c9$f3f7cb80$0200a8c0@Tanguray><000c01c762ce$7ab33b60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <002301c76339$5530dda0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <003a01c76367$60ebdcc0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> But isn't there a formal request procedure for change of COL and is it considered a "minor" change nowadays? The Town of Marblehead wants to purchase the Naugus Head location as "open" or "recreational" space...it is one of their articles for their May town meeting. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "Roger Kolakowski" Cc: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: Re: WESX on the move? > WESX can't move its transmitter site to Lynn and meet the CoL requirements > for covering Salem. Maybe the proposed site can meet the requirements for > Saugus. I knew that the new owner--Otto Miiller--wanted to move the Tx--he > claimed to better serve the audience he wants to serve--but I think, in > reality, because the move would enable him to sell the current site and > maybe get enough for it that the station will have, in effect, cost him > nothing. My theory was that he was going to buy WLYN from Arthur Liu, who > would, in turn, by WXKS (AM) from Clear Channel. I guess I was wrong. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Kolakowski" > To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:42 PM > Subject: Re: WESX on the move? > > > > BTW...1147 Rear Western Avenue in Lynn puts the tower on the east side of > > the Saugus River across Western Avenue from the GE Plant. Probably can > reach > > Saugus with 500 watts from there... > > > > Roger > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Roger Kolakowski" > > > > Subject: WESX on the move? > > > > > > > A recent flurry of activity in applications to the FCC has Principal > > > Broadcasting trying to move it's transmitter to "1147 Rear Western > Avenue > > in > > > Lynn" and change it's COL to Saugus. > > > > > > > > From rogerkola@aol.com Sat Mar 10 18:12:07 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:12:07 -0500 Subject: WESX on the move? References: <20070310093430.C09A483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <004101c76345$bceb9f00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <008c01c76369$8633b500$0200a8c0@Tanguray> I guess my question is: can you "abandon" a COL without regard to it's needs? Where does that work into the process? The town of Marblehead could do a "land taking" but as a town meeting government, they don't have the funds available yet, and may not get them in May. 3.5 million doesn't sound like something I would expect them to pay for "parkland." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "Bob Nelson" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 1:29 PM Subject: Re: WESX on the move? > I looked at the application. The proposed site is indeed the WLYN site. The > app acknowledges prohibited overlap with WMKI. The night coverage of Saugus > is only a little more than half of the normal minimum of 80% of the CoL. It > is, of course, better than the coverage of Salem from the propsed site, > which is zero percent at night. The engineer who prepared the application > does not have an especially good reputation but there is no directional > antenna design involved in this app, so maybe this job plays to her > strengths rather than to her weaknesses. One of the mysteries is the > statement that "the existing site has become unavailable." That was the only > reason I found for why the move is necessary. Usually, applications explain > forced moves more completely. I suspect that the existing site really has > not become unavailable because, if it had, there would be a more complete > explanation of the reason for its becoming unavailable. As long as the > station is not being evicted, I don't think the FCC will aceept "the site > has become unavailable" as an adequate explanation for a proposed move. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Nelson" > To: "Roger Kolakowski" ; "BostonRadio Mailing List" > > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 4:34 AM > Subject: Re: WESX on the move? > > > > >>147 Rear Western Avenue in > > Lynn > > > > That sounds like where WLYN's tower is/was. Go to http://maps.google.com > and type > > that address in; click "Hybrid" to see an aerial photo plus street names. > It > > looks like it's behind CAP's Auto Parts and across from the G.E. near the > > Belden Bly bridge over the Saugus River. (WROL down the road from them...) > > > > > > From rickkelly@gmail.com Sat Mar 10 17:14:03 2007 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:14:03 -0500 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: <708498.11989.qm@web58314.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <708498.11989.qm@web58314.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd10703101414r4a85cc7bi92f5793c14f7b3e6@mail.gmail.com> On 3/10/07, Sean Smyth wrote: > And did WPNI run any commercials? I understood that they didn't. Does > NPR allow affiliates holding commercial licenses or doing what WFCR > does (leasing out a station with a commercial license) to run > commercial advertising? They don't run commercials, but do have "supported by..." announcements. Almost all of WPNI's programming is NPR's Talk programming... Talk of the Nation, as such. http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wpni/guide.guidemain -- -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From wollman@csail.mit.edu Sat Mar 10 22:01:02 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:01:02 -0500 Subject: Clear Channel Cash-out In-Reply-To: <45F2ED5E.5040005@billoneill.us> References: <45F2ED5E.5040005@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <17907.28910.15936.290611@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > What are Clear Channel's plans after it has divested many of the signals > in the queue? More billboards? All-Hit in China? Their plans (or rather, the buyout firms' plans) are to use the proceeds to pay off some of the debt that the private equity firms are taking on as a part of their purchase of the company. That lowers the cost of capital for them, which if successful makes the buyout more profitable. They can then wait a discreet period, have a big IPO, and pocket a few $billion in profits. Of course, this is why some major shareholders are against the deal: they want the buyers to pay more, given the enormous profits the private equity types have been making on these deals lately. Press reports suggest that the vote will be a close one, with at least 40% of shares voting against. -GAWollman From brscomm@charter.net Sat Mar 10 13:22:41 2007 From: brscomm@charter.net (Bill Smith) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:22:41 -0600 Subject: WESX on the move? In-Reply-To: <000c01c762ce$7ab33b60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <00be01c76341$175fd910$6701a8c0@wesels> Could they be diplexing on the WLYN tower? Coordinates are pretty close and the tower address is the same. Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio- > interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Roger Kolakowski > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:42 PM > To: BostonRadio Mailing List > Subject: Re: WESX on the move? > > BTW...1147 Rear Western Avenue in Lynn puts the tower on the east side of > the Saugus River across Western Avenue from the GE Plant. Probably can reach > Saugus with 500 watts from there... > > Roger > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Kolakowski" > > Subject: WESX on the move? > > > > A recent flurry of activity in applications to the FCC has Principal > > Broadcasting trying to move it's transmitter to "1147 Rear Western Avenue > in > > Lynn" and change it's COL to Saugus. > > From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Mar 11 00:17:25 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:17:25 -0500 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: References: <20070309203904.2348D1CE306@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>, Message-ID: <45F34A95.25813.897D32@joe.attorneyross.com> On 10 Mar 2007 at 11:22, David Tomm wrote: > I thought that WPNI ran different NPR programming than WFCR. As I > understood it, 88.5 would run the main programs (Morning Edition, All > Things Considered, etc.) along with some local fare while 1430 > carried primarily alternate shows that didn't clear on the FM. That's correct, last I noticed. WPNI was like a second channel for WFCR, not a simulcast. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Mar 11 11:02:49 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:02:49 -0500 Subject: WESX on the move? References: <20070310093430.C09A483985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com><004101c76345$bceb9f00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <008c01c76369$8633b500$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <002701c763fa$2ea3a980$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I believe that a station can indeed "leave" its CoL without questions from the FCC PROVIDED that the station IS NOT the ONLY broadcast service licensed to the community. This brings up the question of just what constitutes a station. Does a translator qualify? I don't know and I'm not sure that the answer has been settled. I certainly think that, in the WESX case, WMWM qualifies, but I could be wrong because WMWM is noncommercial. Interestingly, I saw nothing in Miller's application that refers specifically to WMWM. Instead, the emphasis is on all of the stations--AM and FM--that deliver city-grade signals to Salem. Now, a rational person might say that that is indeed the issue, but up to the present, it is not how I've ever seen the Funny Cookie Company look at it. The FCC has always wanted to ensure that a community to which one or more stations is licensed retains at least one licensed station. Now, Miller will be doing station owners a HUGE favor if he can establish a new precedent: that Salem is a community within an area that has many broadcast signals and Salem's loss of a signal that is licensed to it and provides it with CoL-grade coverage does not come close to depriving the city of a plethora of other broadcast services that, even though they are licensed to other communities (in this case, mostly to Boston), meet the CoL-coverage criteria for Salem. Because of WMWM, it may be unnecessary for Miller to establish this new precedent in order to have his application granted, but if he establishes the precedent, he will have overturned a principal that many people have, for decades, maintained is a pointless cornerstone of FCC allocation policy. As for Marblehead wanting to take the WESX property as open land, does anybody know whose idea this was originally? The town's or Miller's? If it was Miller's, especially if he is compensated for the taking (which I would think he would be), the FCC could accuse him of being less than candid in his application. In this day and age, I greatly doubt that such a finding would affect the FCCs judgment of his fitness to be a broadcast licensee, but it certainly COULD result in his application being tied up in FCC paperwork for a long, long, long time. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kolakowski" To: "Dan Strassberg" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 6:12 PM Subject: Re: WESX on the move? > I guess my question is: can you "abandon" a COL without regard to it's > needs? Where does that work into the process? > > The town of Marblehead could do a "land taking" but as a town meeting > government, they don't have the funds available yet, and may not get them in > May. > > 3.5 million doesn't sound like something I would expect them to pay for > "parkland." > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Strassberg" > To: "Bob Nelson" > Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 1:29 PM > Subject: Re: WESX on the move? > > > > I looked at the application. The proposed site is indeed the WLYN site. > The > > app acknowledges prohibited overlap with WMKI. The night coverage of > Saugus > > is only a little more than half of the normal minimum of 80% of the CoL. > It > > is, of course, better than the coverage of Salem from the propsed site, > > which is zero percent at night. The engineer who prepared the application > > does not have an especially good reputation but there is no directional > > antenna design involved in this app, so maybe this job plays to her > > strengths rather than to her weaknesses. One of the mysteries is the > > statement that "the existing site has become unavailable." That was the > only > > reason I found for why the move is necessary. Usually, applications > explain > > forced moves more completely. I suspect that the existing site really has > > not become unavailable because, if it had, there would be a more complete > > explanation of the reason for its becoming unavailable. As long as the > > station is not being evicted, I don't think the FCC will aceept "the site > > has become unavailable" as an adequate explanation for a proposed move. > > > > -- > > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > > eFax 707-215-6367 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob Nelson" > > To: "Roger Kolakowski" ; "BostonRadio Mailing List" > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 4:34 AM > > Subject: Re: WESX on the move? > > > > > > > >>147 Rear Western Avenue in > > > Lynn > > > > > > That sounds like where WLYN's tower is/was. Go to http://maps.google.com > > and type > > > that address in; click "Hybrid" to see an aerial photo plus street > names. > > It > > > looks like it's behind CAP's Auto Parts and across from the G.E. near > the > > > Belden Bly bridge over the Saugus River. (WROL down the road from > them...) > > > > > > > > > > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Mar 11 11:02:59 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:02:59 -0500 Subject: WESX on the move? References: <00be01c76341$175fd910$6701a8c0@wesels> Message-ID: <002801c763fa$2f6d1400$19eefea9@dstrassberg> As I said in another post, this is exactly what WESX is proposing. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Smith" To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: RE: WESX on the move? > Could they be diplexing on the WLYN tower? Coordinates are pretty close and > the tower address is the same. > > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio- > > interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Roger Kolakowski > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:42 PM > > To: BostonRadio Mailing List > > Subject: Re: WESX on the move? > > > > BTW...1147 Rear Western Avenue in Lynn puts the tower on the east side of > > the Saugus River across Western Avenue from the GE Plant. Probably can > reach > > Saugus with 500 watts from there... > > > > Roger > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Roger Kolakowski" > > > > Subject: WESX on the move? > > > > > > > A recent flurry of activity in applications to the FCC has Principal > > > Broadcasting trying to move it's transmitter to "1147 Rear Western > Avenue > > in > > > Lynn" and change it's COL to Saugus. > > > > > > From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 22:12:49 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WESX on the move? In-Reply-To: <002701c763fa$2ea3a980$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <782733.46953.qm@web58308.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: > As for Marblehead wanting to take the WESX property as open land, > does > anybody know whose idea this was originally? The town's or Miller's? > If it > was Miller's, especially if he is compensated for the taking (which I > would > think he would be), the FCC could accuse him of being less than > candid in > his application. In this day and age, I greatly doubt that such a > finding > would affect the FCCs judgment of his fitness to be a broadcast > licensee, > but it certainly COULD result in his application being tied up in FCC > paperwork for a long, long, long time. I really doubt that this was Otto Miller's idea. I doubt that he would get anywhere near as much coin from selling the land to the town, whereas a developer likely would shell out much more money for what is a piece of prime real estate. Having been there quite a few times many years ago, I can tell you that the views from there at sunset over the channel/bay/cove/whatever it is there are stellar. Not recalling exactly how much property is there, I would think that it could get more than $3.5 million in a private sale if it's a decent-sized lot. Now, what if Miller transferred ownership of the land from the broadcasting company to another entity that he owns/controls, and then that entity evicted WESX. Not exactly playing it straight, but could the FCC find reason to reject the application? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Mar 12 00:11:25 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:11:25 -0500 Subject: Oldies station Message-ID: <45F49AAD.29311.6EC23E@joe.attorneyross.com> I've just found a really great oldies station. WRLL in Chicago, online at http://www.realoldies1690.com . They still play '50s oldies! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sun Mar 11 23:15:24 2007 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:15:24 -0400 Subject: Oldies station In-Reply-To: <45F49AAD.29311.6EC23E@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <001f01c7645d$0f0af160$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > I've just found a really great oldies station. WRLL in Chicago, > online at http://www.realoldies1690.com . They still play '50s > oldies! Unfortunately they're just a web stream, and no longer on the air (unless it's on a HD2). 1690 is now WVON, with an urban talk format. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Mar 12 00:01:57 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:01:57 -0400 Subject: Oldies station In-Reply-To: <001f01c7645d$0f0af160$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> References: <001f01c7645d$0f0af160$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> Message-ID: At 12:15 AM -0400 3/12/07, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > > I've just found a really great oldies station. WRLL in Chicago, >> online at http://www.realoldies1690.com . They still play '50s >> oldies! > >Unfortunately they're just a web stream, and no longer on the air (unless >it's on a HD2). 1690 is now WVON, with an urban talk format. The HD radio website says something similar (or perhaps the same), 50's thru pre-Beatles 60's, is supposed to be on the HD-2 channel of WODS. However, I do not get WODS in HD at all, so I'm wondering if this means "coming soon"? -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Mar 12 09:54:16 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:54:16 -0500 Subject: WESX on the move? Message-ID: <20070312145429.9B2CA83989@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Scott Fybush has details about all this in the latest NorthEast Radio Watch http://www.fybush.com WESX wants to go 450 w day and night from the WLYN tower. He says some FCC regs have been relaxed but they'll still have to deal with "prohibited overlap" with WMKI 1260 over Nahant, prohibited overlap with WBUR 1240, and the issue of covering all of their COL, Salem. WESX claims that such a move would be able to satisfy these. From readaaron@friedbagels.com Mon Mar 12 11:32:06 2007 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:32:06 -0400 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies Message-ID: <45F58086.9030507@friedbagels.com> NPR doesn't really have a say in the matter, exactly...it's up to the affiliate how they want to handle their own local sponsorships. However, many (arguably most) NPR affiliates running an AM station (or an FM in the commercial band) will file with the FCC to operate the license as a non-commercial entity; thus saving the owner some green on filing fees and whatnot. It can also be a requirement for certain grants. This filing with the FCC *does* prevent a station from running commercials. I don't know how one checks for this sort of filing, though. I spent a few minutes perusing the AM Query (www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amq.html) and not seeing anything obvious that marked WPNI as a non-comm. Or other stations (like WBUR-AM) that I'm pretty sure filed to operate as a non-comm. -- -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02446-2204 And did WPNI run any commercials? I understood that they didn't. Does NPR allow affiliates holding commercial licenses or doing what WFCR does (leasing out a station with a commercial license) to run commercial advertising? From rbello@gis.net Mon Mar 12 13:34:47 2007 From: rbello@gis.net (rbello@gis.net) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:34:47 -0400 Subject: Oldies station Message-ID: <45f59d47.195.d6f.19305@gis.net> Oldies 103.3 will not have HD broadcasting until sometime this spring according to Pete Falconi (PD). ----- Original Message Follows ----- > At 12:15 AM -0400 3/12/07, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > > > > I've just found a really great oldies station. WRLL in Chicago, > >> online at http://www.realoldies1690.com . They still play '50s > >> oldies! > > > >Unfortunately they're just a web stream, and no longer on the air > (unless >it's on a HD2). 1690 is now WVON, with an urban talk format. > > The HD radio website says something similar (or perhaps the same), > 50's thru pre-Beatles 60's, is supposed to be on the HD-2 channel of > WODS. However, I do not get WODS in HD at all, so I'm wondering if > this means "coming soon"? > > -- > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH From lglavin@mail.com Mon Mar 12 15:01:06 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:01:06 -0500 Subject: Downloading Internet Radio And TV? Not So Fast Message-ID: <20070312200111.3E0D41CE309@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Watch Cable TV for just a little while and if you're a Comcast customer you can't miss one of those cute turtle commercials for Comcast's highspeed cable service. But if you take them up for this service and start downloading all sorts of goodies like internet streaming radio, regular TV, movies, Youtube, etc...don't be shocked, shocked if the folks at your service provider says "no mas"! That's the story in an article appearing in today's (02/12) Boston Globe in the business section: http://www.boston.com/business/personaltech/articles/2007/03/12/not_so_fast_broadband_providers_tell_big_users/ In a related story, the European Union has called on the German government to impose speed limits on the autobahn. = Free Directory Submission Advertise your Web site for free with a search engine friendly text link in our online directory and be seen by thousands of potential customers a day while increasing your link popularity. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=b725b28fd5363e3a11e18e4d2b92bf64 From radiotest@cox.net Mon Mar 12 16:59:17 2007 From: radiotest@cox.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:59:17 -0400 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: <45F58086.9030507@friedbagels.com> References: <45F58086.9030507@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070312175023.03675b78@cox.net> At 12:32 PM 3/12/2007, Aaron Read wrote: >I don't know how one checks for this sort of filing, though. I >spent a few minutes perusing the AM Query >(www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amq.html) and not seeing anything obvious that >marked WPNI as a non-comm. Choose "AM Query" from the output pick list at the bottom of the page. Just above the transmitter coordinates you will see "Wxxx operates as a noncommercial educational station" if it is licensed as an NCE. WPNI is not so licensed. To check any state, or all states, for NCE AMs, leave the calls and COL blank, check the box next to "Show only AM stations operating as noncommercial educational (NCE) stations (if checked)" and submit. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ http://members.cox.net/dalehcook/starcity.shtml From scott@fybush.com Mon Mar 12 19:22:16 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:22:16 -0400 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: <45F58086.9030507@friedbagels.com> References: <45F58086.9030507@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <45F5EEB8.4060301@fybush.com> Aaron Read wrote: > I don't know how one checks for this sort of filing, though. I spent a > few minutes perusing the AM Query (www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amq.html) and > not seeing anything obvious that marked WPNI as a non-comm. Or other > stations (like WBUR-AM) that I'm pretty sure filed to operate as a > non-comm. It makes a certain amount of sense that WPNI would not have filed for NCE status, since WFCR isn't operating the station, only leasing time on it for programming. How hands-off is WFCR where WPNI is concerned? When I was up that way a year or so ago seeing some western Mass. transmitters, the tour included both the studios and transmitter of WFCR. I asked about WPNI, and the answer was that the WFCR engineers don't even have a key to the transmitter building. I expect, from what I've read so far, that the arrangement with WNNZ will be similar - once the programming leaves WFCR's studios, everything will be in Clear Channel's hands. The public file will stay at CC Springfield, the CC engineer(s) will handle transmitter maintenance, etc. I would be very surprised to see WNNZ file for NCE status. s From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Mar 13 01:25:30 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:25:30 -0500 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: <45F58086.9030507@friedbagels.com> References: <45F58086.9030507@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <45F5FD8A.32456.3F5CC7@joe.attorneyross.com> On 12 Mar 2007 at 12:32, Aaron Read wrote: > However, many (arguably most) NPR affiliates running an AM station (or > an FM in the commercial band) will file with the FCC to operate the > license as a non-commercial entity; thus saving the owner some green > on filing fees and whatnot. It can also be a requirement for certain > grants. This filing with the FCC *does* prevent a station from > running commercials. What happens if, like WPNI, the station at some point stops being an NPR affiliate? Is there some way it can rescind the filing and run commercials again? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From brscomm@charter.net Mon Mar 12 19:15:14 2007 From: brscomm@charter.net (Bill Smith) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:15:14 -0500 Subject: Downloading Internet Radio And TV? Not So Fast In-Reply-To: <20070312200111.3E0D41CE309@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <006d01c76504$ac20e520$6701a8c0@wesels> Verizon Wireless is doing the same thing with Air Card users. No set limit, just telling users when they pull the plug they used too much bandwidth. Seems to me a class action suit could be in the making if they tell you there is no limit but shut you off for downloading too much. Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio- > interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Laurence Glavin > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:01 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: Downloading Internet Radio And TV? Not So Fast > > Watch Cable TV for just a little while and if you're a > Comcast customer you can't miss one of those cute turtle > commercials for Comcast's highspeed cable service. But if > you take them up for this service and start downloading > all sorts of goodies like internet streaming radio, regular TV, > movies, Youtube, etc...don't be shocked, shocked if the folks > at your service provider says "no mas"! That's the story in > an article appearing in today's (02/12) Boston Globe in the > business section: > > http://www.boston.com/business/personaltech/articles/2007/03/12/not_so_fast_ bro > adband_providers_tell_big_users/ From readaaron@friedbagels.com Tue Mar 13 09:37:40 2007 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:37:40 -0400 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: <45F5FD8A.32456.3F5CC7@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <45F58086.9030507@friedbagels.com> <45F5FD8A.32456.3F5CC7@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <45F6B734.6090607@friedbagels.com> Presumably. AFAIK the only hard and fast rules are that stations operating in the reserved band (87.9 to 91.9) must be non-commercial, as must LPFM licensees and grandfathered Class D FM's operating in the commercial band. Everyone else can, I assume, change back and forth merely by filing with the FCC and awaiting for the FCC's approval (which I have to think is almost always granted). Although I'd imagine that if a station files for NCE status, gets it, and then avoids the commercial station license renewal fees...and then files to return to commercial status - they probably have to pay the fees retroactively. However, as was astutely pointed out to me, WPNI was never an NPR affiliate; the owners were merely LMA'ing to WFCR no differently than if WFCR was any other renter. So it's quite likely they never bothered filing for NCE status just because of the lack of options it gives you. If your LMA ends and you're stuck with NCE status until the FCC grants your paperwork (which can take weeks or months) your station can be stuck in limbo; unable to attract other LMA renters because of the NCE advertising restrictions. That's not good for business. I had thought there was a more long-term arrangement in place with WPNI; in which case an NCE filing might've made more sense. But apparently that wasn't the case. -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02446-2204 A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 12 Mar 2007 at 12:32, Aaron Read wrote: > >> However, many (arguably most) NPR affiliates running an AM station (or >> an FM in the commercial band) will file with the FCC to operate the >> license as a non-commercial entity; thus saving the owner some green >> on filing fees and whatnot. It can also be a requirement for certain >> grants. This filing with the FCC *does* prevent a station from >> running commercials. > > What happens if, like WPNI, the station at some point stops being an > NPR affiliate? Is there some way it can rescind the filing and run > commercials again? > From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Mar 13 11:22:29 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:22:29 -0500 Subject: "WJIB major announcement"? Message-ID: <20070313162234.7CC3F49B6CA@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Heard that Bob Bittner was to make a "major announcement" about WJIB today or tomorrow. Figured maybe he may be switching part or all of his format to progressive talk; the other options I'd heard (from him) were a simulcast of WJTO (but would he still have to pay the BMI/ASCAP fees?) or some kind of a listener-supported model. I just tuned in and caught part of what I guess was the announcement; managed to tape it (only a few seconds long!) Sounds like he's asking for listener donations or something? http://wmwm.250free.com/wjib.mp3 From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Tue Mar 13 11:44:25 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: <45F6B592.8000508@fybush.com> Message-ID: <26157.37040.qm@web58304.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Scott Fybush wrote: > 1. It will be selling underwriting for WNNZ and splitting the revenue > > with WFCR. If WNNZ can draw a decent (not huge, just decent) audience > - > not hard to imagine in the Pioneer Valley - that could easily be more > > lucrative than the Fox Sports Radio WNNZ is currently running, > especially now that WEEI is playing in the market on FM. Keep in > mind, > too, that CC isn't paying for any of the programming on WNNZ; WFCR > takes > care of all of that. But won't most people be tuning into WFCR? They have quite a signal and a decent network of translators. Yes, 640 will be fed some alternate programming, but not a whole lot. Yes, the programming doesn't cost CC anything, but neither did Fox Sports Radio. > Possible 3. It's not hard to imagine that this partnership between CC > > and WFCR could lead to CC selling underwriting for the mothership on > 88.5, also. CC has similar partnerships (effectively joint sales > agreements, or JSAs) with public radio stations in other markets, > most > notably with KUSC in Los Angeles. Interesting. Given how underwriting seems to have more and more of a commercial tint at times, this makes a lot of sense. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From scott@fybush.com Tue Mar 13 12:00:21 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:00:21 -0400 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: <26157.37040.qm@web58304.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <26157.37040.qm@web58304.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45F6D8A5.4050708@fybush.com> Sean Smyth wrote: > But won't most people be tuning into WFCR? They have quite a signal and > a decent network of translators. Yes, 640 will be fed some alternate > programming, but not a whole lot. Yes, the programming doesn't cost CC > anything, but neither did Fox Sports Radio. The programming on WNNZ will be almost completely separate from WFCR, as I understand it. Look at the current schedule of WPNI on wfcr.org - the only overlap is Morning Edition from 6-9 AM, and even that will change once NPR unveils its new "alternate" morning show this fall. WFCR's current incarnation appears to be primarily music, plus the flagship NPR shows (ME and All Things Considered); WNNZ will be entirely news and talk. At least based on the experience of other dual-service public broadcasters (like WXXI in Rochester, where I work part-time), a news/talk service attracts an audience that is very distinct from, and as large as (if not larger than) a mostly-music service. Particularly given how large its daytime signal footprint will be, it's not at all hard to imagine that the news-talk programming on 640 can garner the same sort of ratings (a 3 share, if not higher) that we get on AM in Rochester. That's several orders of magnitude better than Fox Sports Radio is pulling in now. s From tcoco@whav.net Tue Mar 13 12:10:19 2007 From: tcoco@whav.net (Tim Coco) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:10:19 -0400 Subject: Tom Bergeron, Gary LaPierre and Phil Christie Message-ID: <008101c76592$7b664900$2b01a8c0@TIM> Mr. Moderator, please. In case anyone is interested Tom Bergeron, Gary LaPierre and Phil Christie are all taking part in "WHAV's 60th Anniversary Special: A Promise Fulfilled," Friday, March 16 at 1 p.m. The show is heard on WHAV.NET and certain cable TV systems. From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Mar 13 15:26:52 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:26:52 -0500 Subject: WJIB: listener supported radio... Message-ID: <20070313202652.4A74F83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> I guess I missed most of Bob's announcement but he did post about it elsewhere. He says it will "repeat Wednesday at 5 PM, and again at 8 AM on Thursday, then 5 PM on Friday." (13 min long) Bob says his dilemma is: higher rent & music license fees and no income from Radio France. His goal is $88,000 for this year (and he won't get paid personally). Bob plans to keep the format as is as he hopes to raise money from listeners. He's set a time limit of June 30th--if things aren't clicking by then, he promises people who donate will get refunds. Bob said he doesn't want to run informercials, etc. So it'll be listener-supported adult standards...and he's already got some donations. From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Mar 13 16:16:06 2007 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:16:06 -0500 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies Message-ID: > AFAIK the only hard and fast rules are that stations > operating in the reserved band (87.9 to 91.9) must be > non-commercial, as must LPFM licensees and grandfathered > Class D FM's operating in the commercial band. Also, I don't think that TIS stations, either on AM or FM, are allowed to run commercials, though I'm not sure. EP From wollman@csail.mit.edu Tue Mar 13 16:17:05 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:17:05 -0400 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17911.5329.644443.620597@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Also, I don't think that TIS stations, either on AM or FM, > are allowed to run commercials, though I'm not sure. TIS stations aren't even considered broadcast stations. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Tue Mar 13 16:28:00 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:28:00 -0400 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45F71760.1010205@fybush.com> Eli Polonsky wrote: >> AFAIK the only hard and fast rules are that stations >> operating in the reserved band (87.9 to 91.9) must be >> non-commercial, as must LPFM licensees and grandfathered >> Class D FM's operating in the commercial band. > > Also, I don't think that TIS stations, either on AM or FM, > are allowed to run commercials, though I'm not sure. Correct, with the additional note that the TIS service exists only in the AM band and that "TIS" stations on the FM dial are actually LPFM licenses. FM stations operating on channels in the non-reserved band (92.1-107.9, or 221-300, if you prefer) that have been specifically reserved for NCE use must also operate noncommercially. Not all NCE stations operating on the non-reserved band do so on reserved channels; in fact, most older ones don't - so the Maine Public Radio stations on 106.1 Presque Isle and 106.5 Fort Kent, or VPR's 107.9 in Burlington, could go commercial tomorrow if they so chose. (I think - I'm still sorting out some of the more confusing pieces of the FCC's recent revision in the FM allocation rules...) See the reserved channels (indicated by an asterisk) in the newly slimmed-down Table of Allocations here: http://sujan.hallikainen.org/FCC/FccRules/2007/73/202/ s From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Mar 13 16:37:09 2007 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:37:09 -0500 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies Message-ID: --- Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > Also, I don't think that TIS stations, either on AM or FM, > > are allowed to run commercials, though I'm not sure. > > TIS stations aren't even considered broadcast stations. > > -GAWollman Does that mean they're supposed to be powered within Part 15 restrictions? I can hear the one from Logan Airport (1650 AM) all over Boston and the immediate coastal metro towns, even a few miles inland here in Somerville. It must be putting out more power than Part 15. EP From scott@fybush.com Tue Mar 13 16:42:12 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:42:12 -0400 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45F71AB4.4090307@fybush.com> Eli Polonsky wrote: > Does that mean they're supposed to be powered within Part 15 > restrictions? I can hear the one from Logan Airport (1650 AM) > all over Boston and the immediate coastal metro towns, even a > few miles inland here in Somerville. It must be putting out > more power than Part 15. Nope, they're covered by a different part of the FCC rules, 47CFR90.242, which authorizes much higher power than Part 15 does. http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/lowpwr.html#TRAVELLERS s From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Mar 13 16:59:49 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:59:49 -0400 Subject: TIS Stations (was: RE: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001501c765ba$f599faa0$c7151bac@MasterExtra> Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Eli Polonsky > > TIS stations aren't even considered broadcast stations. > > > > -GAWollman > > Does that mean they're supposed to be powered within Part 15 > restrictions? I can hear the one from Logan Airport (1650 AM) > all over Boston and the immediate coastal metro towns, even a > few miles inland here in Somerville. It must be putting out > more power than Part 15. There's a TIS station near the intersection of 93 and 95 (a.k.a. 128) in Woburn on 1700 that can be heard for several miles, I doubt it's only 150 mw. From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Mar 13 19:41:42 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:41:42 -0500 Subject: listener supported radio... References: <20070313202652.4A74F83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <002a01c765d1$a8eb1f60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> But I wrote to him and asked to whom to make the check payable--Radio Station WJIB, Bob Bittner Broadcasting Co, or Robert M Bittner, and he never answered the question. So I have not sent a check. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:26 PM Subject: WJIB: listener supported radio... > I guess I missed most of Bob's announcement but he did post about it elsewhere. He says it will "repeat Wednesday at 5 PM, and again at 8 AM on Thursday, then 5 PM on Friday." (13 min long) > > Bob says his dilemma is: higher rent & music license fees and no income from Radio France. His goal is $88,000 for this year (and he won't > get paid personally). Bob plans to keep the format as is as he hopes to raise money from listeners. He's set a time limit of > June 30th--if things aren't clicking by then, he promises people who donate will get refunds. Bob said he doesn't want to run > informercials, etc. > So it'll be listener-supported adult standards...and he's already got some donations. > From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Mar 14 02:22:57 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:22:57 -0500 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies Message-ID: <20070314072257.9FA4383985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> >>Also, I don't think that TIS stations, either on AM or FM, are allowed to run commercials, though I'm not sure. Though there are some regular broadcasting stations that have gone to a "traveler's info" format. Think there's one in Vegas area and a couple years ago I know that WBNC 1050 in Conway, NH was running a loop of what to see and do, where to stay and eat, etc. Sounded like paid ads! But no longer: I looked it up on radio-locator and it now says "the Valley's Oldies Radio" Years ago I went to Niagara Falls (and yes, slowly I turned, step by step...) and heard a station from the Canadian side called CFLZ ("or, if you prefer, C-F-L-Zed. C-Falls"). It broadcast from the Skylon Tower with traveler's info (91.9 with 8 watts ERP). It later moved to 105.1 and the traveler's info moved to CJRN 710, according to Wikipedia. But we're talking a Canadian TIS here, though one that can be heard on the US side... From stephanie@gordsven.com Wed Mar 14 10:02:36 2007 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: listener supported radio... In-Reply-To: <002a01c765d1$a8eb1f60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20070313202652.4A74F83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> <002a01c765d1$a8eb1f60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <13359.12.37.144.130.1173884556.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> Maybe best to place a phone call directly to the station? -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA On Tue, March 13, 2007 20:41, Dan Strassberg wrote: > But I wrote to him and asked to whom to make the check payable--Radio > Station WJIB, Bob Bittner Broadcasting Co, or Robert M Bittner, and he From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Mar 14 11:20:33 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:20:33 -0500 Subject: listener supported radio... References: <20070313202652.4A74F83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> <002a01c765d1$a8eb1f60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <13359.12.37.144.130.1173884556.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> Message-ID: <001401c76654$bf065de0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> He told me to make the check payable to WJIB. I have done so. Then when it came time to address the envelope, I realized that WJIB's Zip code might have changed. A lot of Cambridge now seems to have migrated upward by 1000 Zip codes. This is NOT true of WJIB, however. The address remains WJIB, 443 Concord Ave, Cambridge, MA 02138 (or at least so says Bob's greeting on WJIB's answering machine). -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephanie Weil" To: "Dan Strassberg" ; Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: Re: listener supported radio... > Maybe best to place a phone call directly to the station? > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City, NY, USA > > On Tue, March 13, 2007 20:41, Dan Strassberg wrote: > > But I wrote to him and asked to whom to make the check payable--Radio > > Station WJIB, Bob Bittner Broadcasting Co, or Robert M Bittner, and he > From scott@fybush.com Wed Mar 14 11:40:26 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:40:26 -0400 Subject: listener supported radio... In-Reply-To: <001401c76654$bf065de0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20070313202652.4A74F83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> <002a01c765d1$a8eb1f60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <13359.12.37.144.130.1173884556.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> <001401c76654$bf065de0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <45F8257A.2020409@fybush.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: > He told me to make the check payable to WJIB. I have done so. Then when it > came time to address the envelope, I realized that WJIB's Zip code might > have changed. A lot of Cambridge now seems to have migrated upward by 1000 > Zip codes. This is NOT true of WJIB, however. The address remains WJIB, 443 > Concord Ave, Cambridge, MA 02138 (or at least so says Bob's greeting on > WJIB's answering machine). I think Dan meant 100 zip codes (02238), not 1000 (03138, which is in the range for Manchester NH) - the USPS web site gives the following as acceptable zips for Cambridge: ZIP Code? Matches in CAMBRIDGE, MA 02138 02139 02140 02141 02142 02163 02238 (PO BOX) 02239 (UNIQUE) I know we have at least one postal worker on the list who can probably provide more detail on this, but the 021xx/022xx codes are, I believe, distributed through the South Station Postal Annex. A big chunk of western suburbia that used to be 021xx/022xx was converted to 024xx a few years back, when the new postal distribution station in Waltham opened. I know Waltham, which was 02154 for street addresses and 02254 for PO Boxes, got a new range of zips in 02451-02455, and that all the Newton 021xx codes became 024xx codes. I think the 024xx codes had previously been used in Brockton, which is now 023xx... s From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Mar 14 15:31:07 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:31:07 -0500 Subject: listener supported radio... Message-ID: <20070314203109.D22CF49B6CA@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> >>I know we have at least one postal worker on the list who can probably provide more detail on this, but the 021xx/022xx codes are, I believe, distributed through the South Station Postal Annex. Yes, Boston area is 021-022; 023 Brockton; 024 is just northwest and west of Boston (Needham, Weston, Waltham, etc.) From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Mar 15 01:02:51 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:02:51 -0500 Subject: listener supported radio... In-Reply-To: <20070314203109.D22CF49B6CA@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070314203109.D22CF49B6CA@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <45F89B3B.20467.33FFC3@joe.attorneyross.com> On 14 Mar 2007 at 15:31, Bob Nelson wrote: > Yes, Boston area is 021-022; 023 Brockton; 024 is just northwest > and west of Boston (Needham, Weston, Waltham, etc.) 024- includes Brookline and Wellesley. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 15 02:06:31 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:06:31 -0500 Subject: WJIB announcement (sound) Message-ID: <20070315070632.0AA6B83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> I am putting up a temporary podcast of Bob's announcement from 5 pm today (as it was I was taping it for someone). The whole file is about 15 min. long though the announcement itself is more like 13 min. http://wmwm.250free.com/WJIBAnnouncement.mp3 Reminder: this is just temporary so hear it now while you can. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Mar 15 09:43:49 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:43:49 -0500 Subject: listener supported radio... References: <20070314203109.D22CF49B6CA@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> <45F89B3B.20467.33FFC3@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <001d01c76715$c9c73bc0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I'm pretty sure that Newton is also in 024. Can someone confirm? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Bob Nelson" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:02 AM Subject: Re: listener supported radio... > On 14 Mar 2007 at 15:31, Bob Nelson wrote: > > > Yes, Boston area is 021-022; 023 Brockton; 024 is just northwest > > and west of Boston (Needham, Weston, Waltham, etc.) > > 024- includes Brookline and Wellesley. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Thu Mar 15 09:35:51 2007 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:35:51 -0400 Subject: listener supported radio... In-Reply-To: <001d01c76715$c9c73bc0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20070314203109.D22CF49B6CA@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> <45F89B3B.20467.33FFC3@joe.attorneyross.com> <001d01c76715$c9c73bc0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070315103302.026037e0@BelloAssoc.com> Yes it is and Needham too ! The last page(s) of your Verizon Yellow Pages usually has a zip code listing. At 10:43 AM 3/15/2007, Dan Strassberg wrote: >I'm pretty sure that Newton is also in 024. Can someone confirm? > >-- >Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net >eFax 707-215-6367 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: "Bob Nelson" >Cc: >Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:02 AM >Subject: Re: listener supported radio... > > > > On 14 Mar 2007 at 15:31, Bob Nelson wrote: > > > > > Yes, Boston area is 021-022; 023 Brockton; 024 is just northwest > > > and west of Boston (Needham, Weston, Waltham, etc.) > > > > 024- includes Brookline and Wellesley. > > > > -- > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Thu Mar 15 10:37:37 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: listener supported radio... In-Reply-To: <45F8257A.2020409@fybush.com> Message-ID: <145090.61044.qm@web58312.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Scott Fybush wrote: > I think the 024xx codes had previously been used in Brockton, which > is > now 023xx... Ah, Let's Talk about Zip Codes is back on LTAR/BRI. So we know Scott collects tower site photos and radio paraphernalia, including bumper stickers. Do you collect zip-code listings, too? :) (Teasing, of course. I just admire the fact that Scott seems to enjoy many of the same off-beat factoids that I do. And I wonder where he finds time to follow all this stuff!) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html From ewerme@comcast.net Thu Mar 15 12:39:07 2007 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:39:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: ZIP codes from the horse's mouth (was Re: listener supported radio...) Message-ID: <20070315173907.460E71DA92@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> > I'm pretty sure that Newton is also in 024. Can someone confirm? http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/citytown.jsp is the oracle. There are also options to get ZIP+4 for particular addresses. I don't fully understand the first result, but all the matches are in the 024 region: 02456 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE NEW TOWN) (PO BOX) [What is Special Cases? ] 02458 02459 02460 02461 02462 02464 02465 02466 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE AUBURNDALE) [What is Special Cases? ] 02467 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE CHESTNUT HILL) [What is Special Cases? ] 02468 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE WABAN) [What is Special Cases? ] 02495 (PO BOX) [What is Special Cases?] From francini@mac.com Thu Mar 15 12:57:37 2007 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:57:37 -0700 Subject: ZIP codes from the horse's mouth (was Re: listener supported radio...) In-Reply-To: <20070315173907.460E71DA92@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> References: <20070315173907.460E71DA92@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> Message-ID: <3075293B-0111-1000-F3B9-D408F5C87F29-Webmail-10007@mac.com> And this is missing several of the "Newtons" as well. What about... West Newton, Newton Corner, Newton Center, Newton Lower Falls -- and probably a couple more I'm forgetting... j On Thursday, March 15, 2007, at 01:42PM, "Ric Werme" wrote: >> I'm pretty sure that Newton is also in 024. Can someone confirm? > >http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/citytown.jsp is the oracle. There are also >options to get ZIP+4 for particular addresses. > >I don't fully understand the first result, but all the matches are >in the 024 region: > >02456 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE NEW TOWN) (PO BOX) [What is Special Cases? ] >02458 >02459 >02460 >02461 >02462 >02464 >02465 >02466 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE AUBURNDALE) [What is Special Cases? ] >02467 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE CHESTNUT HILL) [What is Special Cases? ] >02468 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE WABAN) [What is Special Cases? ] >02495 (PO BOX) [What is Special Cases?] > > From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Mar 15 13:45:56 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:45:56 -0400 Subject: listener supported radio... In-Reply-To: <145090.61044.qm@web58312.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <45F8257A.2020409@fybush.com> <145090.61044.qm@web58312.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <17913.37988.569869.965020@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > (Teasing, of course. I just admire the fact that Scott seems to enjoy > many of the same off-beat factoids that I do. And I wonder where he > finds time to follow all this stuff!) Ask him what the main number for the Newton Police Department is, or where the 617-888 exchange was in 1994. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Thu Mar 15 14:05:39 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:05:39 -0400 Subject: listener supported radio... In-Reply-To: <17913.37988.569869.965020@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <45F8257A.2020409@fybush.com> <145090.61044.qm@web58312.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <17913.37988.569869.965020@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <45F99903.3060404@fybush.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> (Teasing, of course. I just admire the fact that Scott seems to enjoy >> many of the same off-beat factoids that I do. And I wonder where he >> finds time to follow all this stuff!) > > Ask him what the main number for the Newton Police Department is, or > where the 617-888 exchange was in 1994. Nope...the only cop shop numbers I still know by heart are the regular morning beat calls I used to make from WCAP on Saturday mornings, and Newton certainly wasn't part of that list. (From memory: Lowell, Dracut, Chelmsford, Tewksbury, Tyngsboro, Pelham NH and possibly Andover...) And that last one's a trick question: 888, if memory serves, is Sandwich, which had been moved to 508 by '94. I don't think it had been reassigned in 617 at that point. It's now a cell prefix, but I had to go look that one up. Now ask me where my keys are... :-) s From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Mar 15 15:09:49 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:09:49 -0500 Subject: ZIP codes from the horse's mouth (was Re: listener supported radio...) References: <20070315173907.460E71DA92@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> <3075293B-0111-1000-F3B9-D408F5C87F29-Webmail-10007@mac.com> Message-ID: <001b01c7673e$02cef7a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Others I can think of are Newtonville, Newton Upper Falls, and Newton Center (or is that Centre; Centre St, the main drag through Newton Center or Newton Centre, is definitely spelled with an re). I don't think Nonantum is in Newton--at least as far as the Postal Service is concerned. To my surprise, the USPS seems to consider Nonantum to be part of Watertown, regardless of what the people who live in the neighborhood think. The branch post office for Nonantum is on Centre St (or what I believe to be Centre St) in Watertown, maybe 100' from the Newton line, but I believe that most of the residences in the neighborhood known as Nonantum are in Newton. Of course, to add to the confusion, the name of Centre St changes to Galen St in Watertown, but I don't know whether the name changes right AT the city/town line or whether the street that is known as Galen St closer to Watertown Sq is officially Centre St for at least several blocks in Watertown--including the block on which the Nonantum P.O. is situated. (I think that's the case, but I'm not sure.) Since confusion of this sort seems to have originated in the UK, and this is, after all, NEW England, I guess situations of this sort are to be expected. In much of England, I don't think they even have house numbers, but the houses have names. Relatives of my late wife lived in Gleeb House. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Francini" To: "Ric Werme" Cc: "Dan Strassberg" ; Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: Re: ZIP codes from the horse's mouth (was Re: listener supported radio...) > And this is missing several of the "Newtons" as well. What about... > > West Newton, Newton Corner, Newton Center, Newton Lower Falls -- and probably a couple more I'm forgetting... > > j > > > > On Thursday, March 15, 2007, at 01:42PM, "Ric Werme" wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure that Newton is also in 024. Can someone confirm? > > > >http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/citytown.jsp is the oracle. There are also > >options to get ZIP+4 for particular addresses. > > > >I don't fully understand the first result, but all the matches are > >in the 024 region: > > > >02456 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE NEW TOWN) (PO BOX) [What is Special Cases? ] > >02458 > >02459 > >02460 > >02461 > >02462 > >02464 > >02465 > >02466 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE AUBURNDALE) [What is Special Cases? ] > >02467 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE CHESTNUT HILL) [What is Special Cases? ] > >02468 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE WABAN) [What is Special Cases? ] > >02495 (PO BOX) [What is Special Cases?] > > > > From john@minutemancomm.com Thu Mar 15 14:22:09 2007 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:22:09 -0400 Subject: ZIP codes from the horse's mouth (was Re: listener supportedradio...) In-Reply-To: <001b01c7673e$02cef7a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20070315173907.460E71DA92@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net><3075293B-0111-1000-F3B9-D408F5C87F29-Webmail-10007@mac.com> <001b01c7673e$02cef7a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <000001c76737$3a0a3c40$d600a8c0@johnster1> No your confused. The Nonantum Post office is Watertown street right in "The Lake" in Newton. Your thinking of the NewTown post office which is on Gayland Street in Watertown near Direct Tire. That is Watertown though the street does become Centre street a few feet further bat that would be Newton Corner not Nonantum. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan Strassberg Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:10 PM To: John Francini; Ric Werme Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: ZIP codes from the horse's mouth (was Re: listener supportedradio...) Others I can think of are Newtonville, Newton Upper Falls, and Newton Center (or is that Centre; Centre St, the main drag through Newton Center or Newton Centre, is definitely spelled with an re). I don't think Nonantum is in Newton--at least as far as the Postal Service is concerned. To my surprise, the USPS seems to consider Nonantum to be part of Watertown, regardless of what the people who live in the neighborhood think. The branch post office for Nonantum is on Centre St (or what I believe to be Centre St) in Watertown, maybe 100' from the Newton line, but I believe that most of the residences in the neighborhood known as Nonantum are in Newton. Of course, to add to the confusion, the name of Centre St changes to Galen St in Watertown, but I don't know whether the name changes right AT the city/town line or whether the street that is known as Galen St closer to Watertown Sq is officially Centre St for at least several blocks in Watertown--including the block on which the Nonantum P.O. is situated. (I think that's the case, but I'm not sure.) Since confusion of this sort seems to have originated in the UK, and this is, after all, NEW England, I guess situations of this sort are to be expected. In much of England, I don't think they even have house numbers, but the houses have names. Relatives of my late wife lived in Gleeb House. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Francini" To: "Ric Werme" Cc: "Dan Strassberg" ; Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: Re: ZIP codes from the horse's mouth (was Re: listener supported radio...) > And this is missing several of the "Newtons" as well. What about... > > West Newton, Newton Corner, Newton Center, Newton Lower Falls -- and probably a couple more I'm forgetting... > > j > > > > On Thursday, March 15, 2007, at 01:42PM, "Ric Werme" > wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure that Newton is also in 024. Can someone confirm? > > > >http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/citytown.jsp is the oracle. There are also > >options to get ZIP+4 for particular addresses. > > > >I don't fully understand the first result, but all the matches are in > >the 024 region: > > > >02456 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE NEW TOWN) (PO BOX) [What is Special Cases? ] > >02458 > >02459 > >02460 > >02461 > >02462 > >02464 > >02465 > >02466 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE AUBURNDALE) [What is Special Cases? ] > >02467 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE CHESTNUT HILL) [What is Special Cases? ] > >02468 (NEWTON, MA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE - USE WABAN) [What is Special Cases? ] > >02495 (PO BOX) [What is Special Cases?] > > > > From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Thu Mar 15 15:45:26 2007 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: <20070314072257.9FA4383985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <230327.85765.qm@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:22:57 Bob Nelson wrote: > Years ago I went to Niagara Falls (and yes, slowly I > turned, step by step...) and heard a station from > the > Canadian side called CFLZ ("or, if you prefer, > C-F-L-Zed. C-Falls"). It broadcast from the > Skylon Tower with traveler's info (91.9 with 8 watts > ERP). It later moved to 105.1 and the traveler's > info moved to CJRN 710, according to Wikipedia. But > we're > talking a Canadian TIS here, though one that can be > heard on the US side... That was one *powerful* TIS station. After it moved to 105.1 it must've increased power, because it is audible all the way to Batavia NY, at least 40 miles away. A point of clarification from the email above: travelers information was broadcast on 105.1 for a few years in the early part of this decade before moving to AM 710 where it resides today; it was not a simultaneous FM frequency move and change to the AM frequency. I still remember how surprised I was at how well 105.1 got out for a TIS, and thought it was a total waste of a good FM signal. In my opinion, moving a music format to 105.1 and the TIS to AM 710 was a very wise move for the people that owned these signals. Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From scott@fybush.com Thu Mar 15 17:23:29 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:23:29 -0400 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: <230327.85765.qm@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <230327.85765.qm@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45F9C761.20301@fybush.com> Matthew Osborne wrote: > That was one *powerful* TIS station. After it moved > to 105.1 it must've increased power, because it is > audible all the way to Batavia NY, at least 40 miles > away. A point of clarification from the email above: > travelers information was broadcast on 105.1 for a few > years in the early part of this decade before moving > to AM 710 where it resides today; it was not a > simultaneous FM frequency move and change to the AM > frequency. I still remember how surprised I was at > how well 105.1 got out for a TIS, and thought it was a > total waste of a good FM signal. In my opinion, > moving a music format to 105.1 and the TIS to AM 710 > was a very wise move for the people that owned these > signals. It's probably appropriate here to distinguish between an actual TIS station, which is licensed under Part 90 of the FCC rules with limited power and strict limits on what it can program, and a broadcast station (licensed in the US under Part 73), with no restrictions on programming, that just happens to be broadcasting a "travelers information" format. While the rules are somewhat different in Canada, the travel information that's been heard in Niagara Falls at 91.9, then at 105.1 and now on 710 falls (no pun intended!) into the second category. I'm not sure that was the case when CFL-Zed was first licensed on 91.9 back in the late 80s/early 90s. It was then a rather low-power service, transmitting from the Skylon tower in the tourist district, with a fairly short repeating loop of noncommercial recorded information. 91.9 eventually ceased to be available (a combination, IIRC, of the move of CHIN-1-FM in Toronto to that frequency and the FCC allotment of 92.1A to Amherst NY), and CFLZ became a higher-powered station on 105.1. By then, it was being operated by Keith Dancy, the owner of CJRN 710 and, eventually, of CKEY 101.1 as well (which was itself the descendant of CJFT 530 Fort Erie, which is a completely separate story.) 101.1 was doing a AAA format as "The River" around the turn of the century, while 105.1 had become semi-commercial, carrying ads for Niagara Falls businesses (primarily Casino Niagara) along with traffic information for the border crossings. As such, it was a phenomenally valuable service for those of us who crossed the border relatively often, since we could tune in from a distance, hear which crossing was moving fastest, and head in the appropriate direction. In September 2002, the Dancy family (Keith Dancy had died the previous spring) won CRTC permission to shuffle the formats around. "The River" moved from 101.1 to 105.1, the travel information replaced CJRN's AC format on 710, and 101.1 relaunched as "Wild 101," with a rhythmic top 40 format that was clearly (perhaps too clearly?) targeting listeners across the border in Buffalo. 101.1 eventually got in some CRTC hot water, and had to pull back on the management deal that had much of its programming and sales force at the Buffalo Citadel Broadcasting studios instead of in Canada. 105.1 eventually increased power and moved off the Skylon, still as "The River." 710 was sort of the odd station out in all of this; the updated border crossing info disappeared, and for a while in 2002 and 2003, they were broadcasting promos that were months out of date. It's since gotten marginally better, but the station's not as useful as it used to be. (Its signal isn't what it once was, either, and I've heard that its 12-tower DA is in bad shape.) s From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Mar 15 21:14:19 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:14:19 -0400 Subject: WFCR Switches AM Frequencies In-Reply-To: <45F9C761.20301@fybush.com> References: <230327.85765.qm@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <45F9C761.20301@fybush.com> Message-ID: <17913.64891.480515.111971@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > 91.9 eventually ceased to be available (a combination, IIRC, of the move > of CHIN-1-FM in Toronto to that frequency and the FCC allotment of 92.1A > to Amherst NY), and CFLZ became a higher-powered station on 105.1. Incidentally opening up 91.7 in Welland for CHOW to move over from AM. -GAWollman From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Mar 19 11:05:44 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:05:44 -0500 Subject: Herald: NESN restricts footage use by local TV Message-ID: <20070319160548.960B583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=189394 A memo to local TV stations sent by Red Sox-owned NESN lays out the restrictions on footage use: "NESN?s major restriction is to forbid the use of highlights while Red Sox and Bruins games are in progress." This included "Dice-K"'s 6:05 pm debut on March 2. Footage couldn't appear on the 6 pm newscasts on Ch 4, 5, and 7. Opening day, April 2, has a 4:05 pm start and unless it's a very quick game (doubtful!), chances are highlights won't be able to appear on local TV's 6 pm 'casts. Ch.25 (10 pm newscast) apparently already had a policy about not showing highlights of games in progress. (As the Herald article notes, the restriction also covers the Bruins--despite the fact that the hockey team probably would welcome MORE local TV coverage.) The restriction, which also applies to cable outlets like Fox Sports NewEngland and New England Cable News, had led to speculation that rights fees may someday be required, but maybe not...I guess they're concerned about Sox fans switching from the game to the 6, 10, or 11 pm news ("well, I know the Sox and Yanks are tied at 3 in the 8th inning, but I'll just switch to Ch 7 news and catch the highlights there...") To be honest I thought that the policy of not using highlights of a game in progress was already being used (before this year)...who knows. From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Mon Mar 19 11:21:19 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Herald: NESN restricts footage use by local TV In-Reply-To: <20070319160548.960B583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <917371.2618.qm@web58301.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Bob Nelson wrote: > To be honest I thought that the policy of not using highlights of a > game > in progress was already being used (before this year)...who knows. I always thought that was standard policy across the board. Why encourage someone to flip to another network/channel? And when Channel 38 had the Sox in its first, much-longer stint as the flagship, I think they tried to charge rights fees. So local stations just pulled down highlights from the other team's telecasts, when available. And in this day of every team owning/affiliating with a RSN, I'm sure that'd be even easier to accomplish. ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Mar 19 12:36:00 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:36:00 -0500 Subject: Globe, Beam: NPR trying to serve younger listeners Message-ID: <20070319173604.1AFE283BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> You mean the young'uns don't find Garrison Keillor hip? NPR, aware of its graying audience, tries to reach out to younger listeners. http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/03/19/public_radio_seeks_a\ _breath_of_fresh_air/ "Enter 'NPR Zack: A New Space for Younger Listeners.'" From revdoug1@verizon.net Mon Mar 19 18:02:42 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:02:42 -0500 Subject: Radio Theater of the Absurd Message-ID: <063a01c76a7a$b3f1ef80$6501a8c0@pastor2> Clear Channel's two talk stations here in Maine have, for the past couple of months, been broadcasting hourly traffic reports --- "From the Dunkin' Donuts Iced Coffee Traffic Desk, this is the Maine Traffic Network report." (Hey, would I make this up?) As someone who has lived in Maine for thirty-plus years, I find these so amusing I chuckle every time I hear them. WHAT traffic?? As far as I'm aware, there are exactly four roads in the whole state where one can predict at-least-somewhat clogged traffic on a more-or-less everyday basis --- the Maine Turnpike from Portland south, Route 1 from Portland south, I-295 from Brunswick to Scarborough, and Route 302 from Portland to Windham. I live in central Maine; I can get in my car on any given weekday morning, go onto a numbered state highway, and perhaps drive a half-hour before I meet another vehicle. Yes, there are occasional construction hangups. Yes, Route 1 through Wiscasset is horrid in the summer. So are the two bridges in Skowhegan during State Fair time. Nevertheless, I can't help but wonder whether some Clear Channel functionary in San Antonio decided that because major market CC stations have traffic reports, the stations in Maine have to have them, too. It's laughable. -Doug From rogerkola@aol.com Mon Mar 19 18:12:36 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:12:36 -0300 Subject: Radio Theater of the Absurd References: <063a01c76a7a$b3f1ef80$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <002c01c76a7c$15c576e0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Hey....give an airtime salesman a break will ya? ;-) Roger ex WESX-1230 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: "Boston Radio Interest Board" Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 8:02 PM Subject: Radio Theater of the Absurd > Clear Channel's two talk stations here in Maine have, for the past couple of > months, been broadcasting hourly traffic reports --- "From the Dunkin' > Donuts Iced Coffee Traffic Desk, this is the Maine Traffic Network report." > (Hey, would I make this up?) > > As someone who has lived in Maine for thirty-plus years, I find these so > amusing I chuckle every time I hear them. WHAT traffic?? As far as I'm > aware, there are exactly four roads in the whole state where one can predict > at-least-somewhat clogged traffic on a more-or-less everyday basis --- the > Maine Turnpike from Portland south, Route 1 from Portland south, I-295 from > Brunswick to Scarborough, and Route 302 from Portland to Windham. I live in > central Maine; I can get in my car on any given weekday morning, go onto a > numbered state highway, and perhaps drive a half-hour before I meet another > vehicle. > > Yes, there are occasional construction hangups. Yes, Route 1 through > Wiscasset is horrid in the summer. So are the two bridges in Skowhegan > during State Fair time. Nevertheless, I can't help but wonder whether some > Clear Channel functionary in San Antonio decided that because major market > CC stations have traffic reports, the stations in Maine have to have them, > too. It's laughable. > > -Doug > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Mar 19 19:24:56 2007 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:24:56 -0400 Subject: Radio Theater of the Absurd In-Reply-To: <002c01c76a7c$15c576e0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <063a01c76a7a$b3f1ef80$6501a8c0@pastor2> <002c01c76a7c$15c576e0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <8A0A6247841D4CA5B99C285F4438D321@DanBillingsPC> My Maine commute took twice as long as usual one night last week because they were not allowing cars to enter I-95 in Waterville due to an accident. If I had heard the traffic report before I got stuck in traffic, I could have taken an alternative route and saved myself a half hour. Unfortunately, I was stuck in the mess when I heard the report on Clear Channel's WCME. 20 years ago when they were rebuilding 295 through Portland, WYNZ AM & FM featured traffic reports. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From lglavin@mail.com Tue Mar 20 12:25:28 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:25:28 -0500 Subject: Quincy Mass Gets TV Station? NOT! Message-ID: <20070320172530.4D2FC478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> I happened across the website of the Chris Matthews syndicated TV show (not his MSNBC gabfest) and discovered that they think WGEM-TV is in Quincy, MASSACHUSETS! If you click on their list of stations carrying the show: http://www.thechrismatthewsshow.com/when_where.html and select Massachusetts, you get WCVB-TV in Boston AND WGEM-TV, Quincy. BTW, WGEM-TV is in Quincy, Illinois, and that station pops up if you select Illinois. = Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From attychase@comcast.net Tue Mar 20 16:28:04 2007 From: attychase@comcast.net (Robert S Chase) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:28:04 -0400 Subject: Radio Theater of the Absurd References: Message-ID: <000801c76b36$ac7c9400$6400a8c0@HomeOffice> Well it is the Dunkin Donut traffic report! see http://www.maine.gov/mdot/mainedot-news-release/graylawenforcementhelprequest806.php and http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/060818gray.shtml Bob Chase > As someone who has lived in Maine for thirty-plus years, I find these so > amusing I chuckle every time I hear them. WHAT traffic?? As far as I'm > aware, there are exactly four roads in the whole state where one can > predict > at-least-somewhat clogged traffic on a more-or-less everyday basis --- the > Maine Turnpike from Portland south, Route 1 from Portland south, I-295 > from > Brunswick to Scarborough, and Route 302 from Portland to Windham. I live > in > central Maine; I can get in my car on any given weekday morning, go onto a > numbered state highway, and perhaps drive a half-hour before I meet > another > vehicle. From francini@mac.com Wed Mar 21 01:16:11 2007 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:16:11 -0400 Subject: Radio Theater of the Absurd In-Reply-To: <000801c76b36$ac7c9400$6400a8c0@HomeOffice> References: <000801c76b36$ac7c9400$6400a8c0@HomeOffice> Message-ID: What a mess. It is amazing to see what people will do if they Can't Get Their Coffee each and every morning Without Fail. That might explain why, here in Nashua, one stretch of Amherst St. (Route 101A) has more than 10(!) Dunkin' Donuts shops in a 6-mile run between the Everett Turnpike and the Wal-Mart in Amherst. No one needs to make any illegal turns, as there's a DD nearly every mile in each direction. As a non-coffee-drinker, I don't get the fascination with coffee. Never have, for over 40 years. It's entirely random as to whether or not a particular outlet will get the right combination of strength, flavor notes, aroma, acidity, cream & sugar levels, etc. to make a consistent cup of coffee. Besides, I can't stand the taste of any of it. If only coffee tasted like it smells when it's brewing. I get my caffeine from Pepsi, which -- especially in canned or bottled form -- is extremely consistent. I know that anywhere in the country I go, a can or bottle of Pepsi will taste EXACTLY the same, assuming it's not past its' sell-by date. It's also why when I want bottled water I'll get an AquaFina or a Dasani. Since it's the exact same extremely tightly-controlled water that the bottlers use for their sodas, it also will have consistent taste anywhere in the country. And this can be a useful thing to remember when you're someplace like Orlando, Florida, where even the *bottled spring water* down there tastes like it came from a swamp. I guess my viewpoint is that I don't see why the taste of my daily, staple beverage should be an adventure. There's enough inconsistency and variation in the rest of the world. I want my drinks of choice to be consistent enough not to have to think about them. Now back to your Regularly Scheduled Program (already in progress)... john francini nashua, nh -- John Francini, francini@mac.com "The journey is more important than the destination -- that's part of life. If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always disappointed." -- Donald Knuth From songbook2@comcast.net Thu Mar 22 17:47:57 2007 From: songbook2@comcast.net (Russ Butler) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:47:57 -0700 Subject: Public radio ratings Message-ID: <4603079D.5040803@comcast.net> In my newspaper today (3.22.07) there's a long article on public radio stations' popularity, nationally, and that ARB ratings cannot be touted. However, there is a Top 20 list of public broadcasters in the country and WGBH radio is not on it!! They've posted the "cume" ratings from Arbitron to reflect the station's listening audience as a percentage of the population of the market. The three Vermont Public Radio stations are listed: #2 is VPR with 22% of the audience in Montpelier-Barre-St-Johnsbury; #5 VPR with 19% in the Burlington-Plattsburg ADI; and # 11 VPR with 16.4% in Lebanon-Rutland-White River Jct. New Hampshire Public Radio (WEVO) is # 6 with 18.1% in the Concord-Lake Regions, and Portland, ME (WMEA) is # 8 with 17.2% of the audience. That's it for New England and no WGBH-FM. Number one is Ann Arbor MI (WUOM) with 25.3%. (This is all the Fall 2006 rankings released on Feb. 16, 2007) The article mentioned that ARB figures cannot be used by public stations because they pay a lower, negotiated fee for service. Hmmmm :>) Maybe these negotiators can intervene in the current CRB royalty fees issue for webcasting and streaming music stations? Haven't heard about the outrageous fee-for-play being decided that will wipe out Internet radio webcasting??? Take a look, get involved and respond to your politicians now, it has to be a fair and equitable, not a greedy rate. Read what is going on and sign on here: http://www.savethestreams.org/ Thanks! From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Mar 23 02:41:42 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 02:41:42 -0500 Subject: FCC approves nighttime IBOC for AM Message-ID: <20070323074142.4D57983BE3@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> The FCC voted to allow nighttime IBOC for AM (so much for DX-ing?) and also to allow "HD multicasting without prior approval from the commission". Does the latter mean they are no longer "experimental" (HD) and ads can now be run on them? for details: http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRWebSite/ see "FCC Unanimous In Approval Of HD Radio Rules" From bill.smith@comcast.net Fri Mar 23 03:37:50 2007 From: bill.smith@comcast.net (bill.smith@comcast.net) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:37:50 +0000 Subject: Radio Theater of the Absurd Message-ID: <032320070837.17443.460391DE000BC259000044232212020784089B07039CD20404070D@comcast.net> "It's impossible for me to do radio without a cup of coffee in my hand" --Bill O'Neil, c. 1984 "That'll be $.45 for your large regular" --Ray Robinson, c. 1983 John Francini said: > As a non-coffee-drinker, I don't get the fascination with coffee. From sid@wrko.com Fri Mar 23 06:37:46 2007 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 05:37:46 -0600 Subject: FCC approves nighttime IBOC for AM Message-ID: >>The FCC voted to allow nighttime IBOC for AM (so much for DX-ing?) and also to allow "HD multicasting without prior approval from the commission". Does the latter mean they are no longer "experimental" (HD) and ads can now be run on them?<< Yes, that's what it means. However, remember that there is an informal agreement among the station groups running multicast streams that there will be no commercials on the secondaries for the first two years of operation. Also, the FCC decision does NOT take place immediately. The rules have to be written and published in the Federal Register, and they would take effect sometime after that (30 or 45 days seems to be the rule these days). Further, allowing nighttime HD on AM is going to require coordination with Canada and Mexico, and is also going to involve the FCC's Enforcement Bureau setting up a mechanism to deal with interference complaints. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From mamros@MIT.EDU Fri Mar 23 07:56:52 2007 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:56:52 -0400 Subject: Public radio ratings In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:47:57 PDT." <4603079D.5040803@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200703231256.l2NCuqJj003105@department-of-alchemy.mit.edu> >In my newspaper today (3.22.07) there's a long article on public radio >stations' popularity, nationally, and that ARB ratings cannot be >touted. However, there is a Top 20 list of public broadcasters in the >country and WGBH radio is not on it!! Actually, that's not entirely surprising to me, for a couple of reasons: - There are so many stations (commercial and non-comm) in the Boston area that it's very difficult for any of them to get even double-digit percentage ratings. Numbers like 22% or 25% are utterly impossible in this market. A good station in a smaller market can pull that off, with fewer stations to cut up the ratings pie, so to speak, but it can't be done here. (It'd be interesting if you could multiply those percentages times some sort of actual population figure for the area, though I don't know how one would ever figure out where to draw the line to determine that number. But it would give a much more realistic view of how successful these stations really are, in my opinion.) - Truth be told, I'd expect WBUR to show up on any such list before WGBH would. My understanding is that 'BUR handily beats 'GBH ratings- wise, and has for quite some time. -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From me@billoneill.us Fri Mar 23 08:08:43 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:08:43 -0400 Subject: Radio Theater of the Absurd In-Reply-To: <032320070837.17443.460391DE000BC259000044232212020784089B07039CD20404070D@comcast.net> References: <032320070837.17443.460391DE000BC259000044232212020784089B07039CD20404070D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4603D15B.2080506@billoneill.us> And I still have that coffee mug. Milk no sugar. Bill O'Neill bill.smith@comcast.net wrote: > "It's impossible for me to do radio without a cup of coffee in my hand" > --Bill O'Neil, c. 1984 > > "That'll be $.45 for your large regular" > --Ray Robinson, c. 1983 > > John Francini said: > > >> As a non-coffee-drinker, I don't get the fascination with coffee. - >> <*}}}>< From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Mar 23 09:55:05 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:55:05 -0400 Subject: FCC approves nighttime IBOC for AM In-Reply-To: <20070323074142.4D57983BE3@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070323074142.4D57983BE3@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: At 2:41 AM -0500 3/23/07, Bob Nelson wrote: >The FCC voted to allow nighttime IBOC for AM (so much for DX-ing?) >and also to allow >"HD multicasting without prior approval from the commission". Does >the latter mean >they are no longer "experimental" (HD) and ads can now be run on them? > >for details: >http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRWebSite/ > >see "FCC Unanimous In Approval Of HD Radio Rules" This probably strengthens the arguments by Sirius and XM in favor of their merger, in that they can now claim that there will still be competition for digital radio after their proposed merger. On the subject of Hybrid Digital, but for FM, there is definitely a problem when there is a strong adjacent channel signal. I realized the extent of this problem after I wrote to WUMB engineer Grady Moates about not being able to receive that station in HD. He said (paraphrasing) that while HD is supposed to work if the receiver is able to receive one of the adjacent channels OK even if there is a signal on the other adjacent channel, but in practice he (and I) have found that if there is a strong signal on one of the adjacent channels you will not receive HD. Thus, if I aim my antenna at Boston and tune to 91.9, WMWM on 91.7 keeps me from receiving WUMB in HD. And if I point my antenna at Newburyport and tune to 91.7 for their satellite station WNEF, WMWM is no longer a factor but WUML on 91.5 keeps me from hearing WNEF in HD. And to think that I purchased the HD tuner primarily so I could hear WUMB more clearly! -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone (North Salem), NH From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Mar 23 12:31:45 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:31:45 -0500 Subject: Andelman brothers bring Phantom Gourmet to WTKK Message-ID: <20070323173145.8E4C883BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Herald: http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=190304 "The Phantom Gourmet crew will be ?grillin? and chillin?? this June on Boston?s City Hall Plaza, but first will take to the airwaves for a new weekly radio show on WTKK (96.9 FM)." The Phantom Gourmet BBQ Beach Party will be held June 22-24. "The Phantom Gourmet?s new live radio show, which debuts April 7, will air Saturdays from 5-7 p.m. with Michael and Dan Andelman joining their brother (Dave)." The fest will be broadcast on both Ch 38 and WTKK. From readaaron@friedbagels.com Fri Mar 23 12:24:47 2007 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:24:47 -0400 Subject: FCC approves nighttime IBOC for AM Message-ID: <46040D5F.5070109@friedbagels.com> >>Thus, if I aim my antenna at Boston and tune to 91.9, WMWM on 91.7 >>keeps me from receiving WUMB in HD. Larry - HD signals are generally not receivable much beyond the 60dBu contour area at best. The concept of "fringe reception" is going to rapidly disappear if FM ever goes "all digital" which actually could hurt smaller stations like WUMB. Anyways, if you're in north Salem you are *well* outside WUMB's 60dBu range...which gets to about Winthrop or so, maybe south Revere. Granted if you're on Nahant or the south side of Marblehead, you might catch a break across the water, but that's it. But the rest of Marblehead and Salem is probably too far away to get the HD carriers of WUMB. Remember - they're only 6.6 watts of digital! FWIW, the digital carriers of HD Radio are largely redundant but not entirely. The point is that you can, in theory, blow away either the upper or lower carrier entirely due to adjacent channel interference...and the HD signal will still be perfectly receivable. The problem is that now you're entirely reliant on that remaining digital carrier so if there's any disruption to it at all - the radio can't fall back on the other carrier. So yes, a strong 1st adjacent will cause problems for HD Radio reception. However, in your case I suspect it has more to do with your distance to WUMB than your proximity to WMWM. Of course, WUMB could purchase an HD Radio installation for WMWM in exchange for WMWM rebroadcasting WUMB on the HD2 channel! ;-) Come to think of it, I think WUMB would probably be better off trying to do something like that with WXRV; the 60dBu limit means that stations with lower ERP (like WUMB, or WMWM) really have limited options in multicasting. -- -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02446-2204 http://lists.bostonradio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/2007-March/011338.html From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Mar 23 14:48:25 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:48:25 -0400 Subject: FCC approves nighttime IBOC for AM In-Reply-To: <46040D5F.5070109@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <000701c76d84$39a08400$c7151bac@MasterExtra> > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Aaron Read > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 1:25 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: FCC approves nighttime IBOC for AM > > >>Thus, if I aim my antenna at Boston and tune to 91.9, WMWM > on 91.7 >>keeps me from receiving WUMB in HD. > The problem is so bad that my tuner will not show HD at all for WUMB, nor for WNEF. When I aim at WNEF, WUML is a bit stronger than WNEF. Yet I am able to get HD and HD-2 on WFCR which is much weaker but the adjacent channels are clear. > Of course, WUMB could purchase an HD Radio installation for > WMWM in exchange for WMWM rebroadcasting WUMB on the HD2 > channel! ;-) Come to think of it, I think WUMB would > probably be better off trying to do something like that with > WXRV; the 60dBu limit means that stations with lower ERP > (like WUMB, or WMWM) really have limited options in multicasting. I thought of the same sort of thing, and I have noticed that WBUR is not using their HD-2. There is a precedent for this sort of thing, with WTMD in Maryland being on one of the DC station's HD-2. Perhaps we should suggest this to WUMB. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From pete@partnercomm.com Fri Mar 23 16:04:42 2007 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:04:42 -0400 Subject: FCC approves nighttime IBOC for AM In-Reply-To: <000701c76d84$39a08400$c7151bac@MasterExtra> References: <000701c76d84$39a08400$c7151bac@MasterExtra> Message-ID: <460440EA.7000105@partnercomm.com> Larry Weil wrote: [snip] > I thought of the same sort of thing, and I have noticed that WBUR is not > using their HD-2. There is a precedent for this sort of thing, with WTMD in > Maryland being on one of the DC station's HD-2. Perhaps we should suggest > this to WUMB. American University's WAMU (88.5 - Washington DC)is programming their HD2 with Towson University's AAA-programmed WTMD (89.7 - Towson, MD). Their HD3 is "Bluegrass Country", provided by bluegrasscountry.org. -Peter -- Peter Murray (N3IXY) Oak Hill, VA From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Mar 24 02:32:51 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 02:32:51 -0500 Subject: Andelman brothers bring Phantom Gourmet to WTKK Message-ID: <20070324073251.C392A49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> > The Phantom Gourmet BBQ Beach Party will be held June 22-24. >A beach party in City Hall Plaza??? They are literally bringing in the sand. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Mar 25 15:47:26 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:47:26 -0500 Subject: Andelman brothers bring Phantom Gourmet to WTKK References: <20070324073251.C392A49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> <44F97B42.31345.3E9868@localhost> Message-ID: <005d01c76f1e$d0630200$19eefea9@dstrassberg> For a beach party, water wouldn't hurt. For City Hall and surrounding businesses, water might not be so good, though. ;>( -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Bob Nelson" ; "Bill O'Neill" Cc: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Andelman brothers bring Phantom Gourmet to WTKK > On 24 Mar 2007 at 12:33, Bill O'Neill wrote: > > > City Hall Plaza needs more than sand. Try jack hammers. And some > > creativity. > > I'd say it needs some greenery. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 fax:617.742.7581 > Boston,MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From rjoc04679@msn.com Sun Mar 25 12:47:33 2007 From: rjoc04679@msn.com (Rod OConnor) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:47:33 -0400 Subject: WRMO Milbridge ME back on the air. Message-ID: WRMO 93.7 Milbridge Maine, which has been off the air for several months has returned to the air. Their new format is a mix of Standards, Oldies and Adult Contemporary. During an hour of listening while in the area recently, I heard such variety as Tony Bennett, Ferrante and Teicher pianos, Beach Boys, The Four Lads, Bette Middler and even 80s/90s artists Rick. Astley and Phil Collins. They are now broadcasting from a new studio at a business/warehouse complex on US Route 1 in Steuben, ME, just a half mile west of the Milbridge town line. Thier single bay antenna is mounted atop the warehouse, on a 10tripod mast, approx. 30 feet above ground level. Only airing 120 watts, but signal gets out a good 5 miles. covering the three adjacent towns of Milbridge, Cherryfield and Harrington. Even can be heard along the Park Loop Road from Schoodic Peninsula section of Acadia National park in Winter Harbor. They hope to upgrade power and get new tower site later this year. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From markwats@comcast.net Mon Mar 26 15:16:18 2007 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:16:18 -0400 Subject: Fire At WOKQ Dover NH Message-ID: <004701c76fe3$9d93b1b0$a6d38018@Mark> An early Sunday morning fire in a garage attached to WOKQ's studio building in Dover NH is under investigation. The garage housed the station's emergency generator and casued about $50,000 in damage. Here is a link to an article on the Foster's Daily Democrat website: http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070326/FOSTERS01/103260113 Mark Watson From markwats@comcast.net Mon Mar 26 15:23:00 2007 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:23:00 -0400 Subject: Mary Blake On WBZ Radio Message-ID: <004b01c76fe4$8d47d470$a6d38018@Mark> This morning I heard Mary Blake anchoring the news on WBZ Radio. I also heard her reporting on a story one day last week. Blake was one of the WRKO news staffers let go a few months ago when the station shuttered it's newsroom. Blake is not listed on WBZ's website when I checked it prior to this post, so could she just be freelancing or they may not have updated the website yet. In any event, good to hear Mary Blake once again. Mark Watson From me@billoneill.us Mon Mar 26 15:33:24 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:33:24 -0400 Subject: Mary Blake On WBZ Radio In-Reply-To: <004b01c76fe4$8d47d470$a6d38018@Mark> References: <004b01c76fe4$8d47d470$a6d38018@Mark> Message-ID: <46082E14.7000100@billoneill.us> Good. Mary is one of the best in the business. And one of the nicest, too. An unusual combination? I am very happy for Mary and kudos to BZ for the hire. The market is the better for it. I was fortunate enough to work with Mary back in the early 80s at WCAP when she was AM news anchor. She was also among those who attended the WCAP radio reunion of the air last summer. Bill O'Neill Mark Watson wrote: > This morning I heard Mary Blake anchoring the news on WBZ Radio. I > also heard her reporting on a story one day last week. Blake was one > of the WRKO news staffers let go a few months ago when the station > shuttered it's newsroom. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Mar 26 16:23:34 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:23:34 -0400 Subject: J.J. Jackson Message-ID: <20070326212340.697DF659315@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> When J.J. Jackson (MTV's first African-American video-jock) passed away in 2004, his obit said he had worked at WBCN at one time. Does anybody remember this? It rings no bells with me, but I might have been out of town doing radio in another city when he was in Boston... From john@minutemancomm.com Mon Mar 26 18:10:06 2007 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:10:06 -0400 Subject: J.J. Jackson In-Reply-To: <20070326212340.697DF659315@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <20070326212340.697DF659315@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <00e101c76ffb$e5001210$d600a8c0@johnster1> I worked with JJ at Woodstock94 when we actually did kind of a pirate Westwood One Woodstock broadcast from the lawn of the WBCN "Love Shack" right around the corner from the festival. JJ told us and all the folks there he was one of the original BCN DJ's and had a lot of good stories to prove it. I'm not really sure which years he worked there but he did. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 5:24 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: J.J. Jackson When J.J. Jackson (MTV's first African-American video-jock) passed away in 2004, his obit said he had worked at WBCN at one time. Does anybody remember this? It rings no bells with me, but I might have been out of town doing radio in another city when he was in Boston... From john@minutemancomm.com Mon Mar 26 18:34:14 2007 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:34:14 -0400 Subject: J.J. Jackson In-Reply-To: <00e101c76ffb$e5001210$d600a8c0@johnster1> References: <20070326212340.697DF659315@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> <00e101c76ffb$e5001210$d600a8c0@johnster1> Message-ID: <010101c76fff$445fa150$d600a8c0@johnster1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBCN has his WBCN tenure as J.J. Jackson 1968-1971 -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of John Mullaney Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 7:10 PM To: 'Donna Halper'; boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: RE: J.J. Jackson I worked with JJ at Woodstock94 when we actually did kind of a pirate Westwood One Woodstock broadcast from the lawn of the WBCN "Love Shack" right around the corner from the festival. JJ told us and all the folks there he was one of the original BCN DJ's and had a lot of good stories to prove it. I'm not really sure which years he worked there but he did. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 5:24 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: J.J. Jackson When J.J. Jackson (MTV's first African-American video-jock) passed away in 2004, his obit said he had worked at WBCN at one time. Does anybody remember this? It rings no bells with me, but I might have been out of town doing radio in another city when he was in Boston... From readaaron@friedbagels.com Mon Mar 26 11:28:44 2007 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:28:44 -0400 Subject: FCC approves nighttime IBOC for AM Message-ID: <4607F4BC.2000809@friedbagels.com> >Larry Weil kc1ih@mac.com >Fri Mar 23 14:48:25 EST 2007 >(snip) >The problem is so bad that my tuner will not show HD at all for WUMB, >nor for WNEF. When I aim at WNEF, WUML is a bit stronger than WNEF. >Yet I am able to get HD and HD-2 on WFCR which is much weaker but the >adjacent channels are clear. Well, that tells you how often WBMT 88.3 Topsfield is on the air. :-) I admit I find this report confusing, but it can be "explained away" to some degree by WFCR's mammoth signal. Plus we'll all need to get used to stations not coming in as well (or some coming in better) than we're used to with HD Radio since the propagation characteristics are noticeably different. Just last night I was test-driving a new HD Radio receiver and quickly confirmed that I couldn't get WUMB's HD signal anywhere in Brookline, Brighton or Storrow Drive except for those parts (rather roughly) within their 60dBu contour...which cuts through those areas. http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WUMB&service=FM&status=L&hours=U Now obviously WFCR's 60dBu is over 40 miles away from Larry...but they also have 130 watts of HD Radio at 1500ft. AMSL, compared to WUMB's ~7 watts of HD at 290ft AMSL. Doesn't take much terrain to knock down 7 watts into the noise floor. And yes, adjacent channels sure don't help. Still, I'm kinda surprised you can get WFCR HD from that far away. That's a good catch. As for WUML and WNEF...contour-wise they should be about the same signal strength in the Marblehead area, with WNEF slightly stronger. But both should be pretty weak. And remember, WNEF is almost entirely vertically polarized so if you're using a horizontal antenna it's going to show some attenuation from that...possibly as much as -6dB (significant at that range). There could also be a terrain issue that's letting a lot more of WUML over WNEF into your area...I'd need to do some Longley-Rice plots to check. What tuner are you using, too? Several of the home tuners have been (sometimes justifiably) accused of being rather "deaf". If the tuner's not as good at filtering out adjacent channel interference it's not going to get WUMB cleanly on analog or digital. -- -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02446-2204 From lglavin@mail.com Mon Mar 26 14:02:50 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:02:50 -0500 Subject: Richard L. Kaye Leaves $1-Million To BSO Message-ID: <20070326190252.977BF1BF3FC@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Over the weekend, I attended a Boston Symphony Orchestra concert devoted to a single work by Beethoven, his opera "Fidelio"in an unstaged "concert" version S I D E B A R: it was on March 26th, 1827 that Beethoven passed away meaning that TODAY is the 180th anniversary of his death. and before the concert began, I was flipping through the program booklet given to audience members. Lo and behold, atop a page to honor donors to the Boston Symphony Orchestra Capital Fund was The Estate of Richard L. Kaye in the category of contributors in the amount of 1-million dollars (or more). Richard L. Kaye was a longtime Vice President of Charles River Broadcasting which of course owned WCRB for decades. Last fall, just as the sale of WCRB was being consummated, Mr. Kaye died, as readers of this site and the Northeast Radio Watch will recall. So it appears that some of the proceeds of the sale that went to him and his family also wound up in the Orchestra's coffers. = Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Mar 27 09:51:29 2007 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:51:29 -0400 Subject: Mary Blake On WBZ Radio In-Reply-To: <46082E14.7000100@billoneill.us> References: <004b01c76fe4$8d47d470$a6d38018@Mark> <46082E14.7000100@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0703270751y50be45cfmdc47b56068603cd3@mail.gmail.com> Speaking of former WRKO news staffers a friend of mine said he heard Listo Fisher hosting classical music on WCRB From radiotony@comcast.net Tue Mar 27 13:30:00 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony@comcast.net) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:30:00 -0500 Subject: Mary Blake On WBZ Radio Message-ID: <200703271731.l2RHVlY8045697@rolinin.bostonradio.org> Deb Daigle, a former 'RKO part-timer, is at NHPR part-time. -----Original Message----- From: "Bob Nelson" Subj: Re: Mary Blake On WBZ Radio Date: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:51 am Size: 114 bytes To: "Bill O'Neill" , markwats@comcast.net, boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Speaking of former WRKO news staffers a friend of mine said he heard Listo Fisher hosting classical music on WCRB Sent from the Treo of Tony Schinella From lglavin@mail.com Tue Mar 27 14:58:46 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:58:46 -0500 Subject: Mary Blake On WBZ Radio Message-ID: <20070327195846.30D85103AF@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: radiotony@comcast.net >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Mary Blake On WBZ Radio >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:30:00 -0500 >Deb Daigle, a former 'RKO part-timer, is at NHPR part-time. Since former staffers at big-time Boston stations now working elsewhere is the flavor-of-the-month, a few days ago, during a WBUR local newscast, I heard Flo Jonnick reporting a story via WRNI-AM in Providence. = Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From radiotony@comcast.net Tue Mar 27 19:14:35 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:14:35 -0400 Subject: Mary Blake On WBZ Radio In-Reply-To: <20070327195846.30D85103AF@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070327195846.30D85103AF@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <003201c770ce$120d64b0$36282e10$@net> Great to hear that Flo landed somewhere. :-) Best, Tony Schinella >----- Original Message ----- >From: radiotony@comcast.net >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Mary Blake On WBZ Radio >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:30:00 -0500 >Deb Daigle, a former 'RKO part-timer, is at NHPR part-time. Since former staffers at big-time Boston stations now working elsewhere is the flavor-of-the-month, a few days ago, during a WBUR local newscast, I heard Flo Jonnick reporting a story via WRNI-AM in Providence. From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Mar 28 03:38:32 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 03:38:32 -0500 Subject: Herald: WBCN wooing Dennis, Callahan, "guy talk"? Message-ID: <20070328083833.6AD4F83C15@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> It's in the Inside Track, so take it for what it's worth. http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/moreTrack/view.bg?articleid=191234 "...rumor in radioland is that struggling rock station WBCN may be trying to woo sports yakkers John Dennis and Gerry Callahan away from WEEI. The broadcast blather has it that parent company CBS may be looking at changing the legendary Boston music station to a sports-talk or the so-called male-talk format...But others in the know say the station could be pursuing WEEI?s top-rated morning men with no plans to change its existing lineup of talk in the morning followed by rock the rest of the day." From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Mar 28 04:09:27 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:09:27 -0500 Subject: Herald: WBCN wooing Dennis, Callahan, "guy talk"? Message-ID: <20070328090928.2BA6B83C13@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> And speaking of sports talk radio, ESPN Boston (890/1400) apparently wants to steal WEEI/WRKO's thunder by airing a Red Sox pregame show of their own: According to BostonSportsMedia.com, the station(s) will debut "The Boston Baseball Pregame Show" weeknights from 6-7 pm, with host Kevin Winter. Peter Gammons may also be taking part. Even though the games won't be on ESPN Boston, they will have their own pregame show. (And for the record, ESPN Boston will have some MLB ballgames on: ESPN's game of the week, All Star Game, and playoffs.) From francini@mac.com Wed Mar 28 07:30:41 2007 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:30:41 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBCN wooing Dennis, Callahan, "guy talk"? In-Reply-To: <20070328083833.6AD4F83C15@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070328083833.6AD4F83C15@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Well, I'd like to think that moving D&C off of WEEI *might* be a Good Thing (tm) -- because I can't stand it when they talk about anything OTHER than sports -- I bet that all WEEI will do is find *another* pair of talkers who will talk about all sorts of random crap that I really don't care about. If I cared, I'd be listening to WRKO or 96.9. D&C are actually quite good when they stick to what they know best. Once they wander off into the weeds outside the "toy store" of life, they show their ignorance and narrow-mindedness -- Callahan especially. So go off to WBCN -- a station I don't listen to except for Patriots broadcasts anyway, because what passes for "rock" on their playlists doesn't deserve the title. And while they're at it, corporate Entercom should go to corporate New York Times, Inc. and do whatever needs to be done -- including cash payments, if need be -- to end this stupid boycott that prevents Globe columnists like Dan Shaugnessy, Bob Ryan, etc. from appearing on WEEI programs. All this boycott does is make the Globe look foolish, provincial, and snotty. John At 3:38 -0500 3/28/07, Bob Nelson wrote: >It's in the Inside Track, so take it for what it's worth. > >http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/moreTrack/view.bg?articleid=191234 > >"...rumor in radioland is that struggling rock station WBCN may be >trying to woo sports yakkers John Dennis and Gerry Callahan away >from WEEI. The broadcast blather has it that parent company CBS may >be looking at changing the legendary Boston music station to a >sports-talk or the so-called male-talk format...But others in the >know say the station could be pursuing WEEI?s top-rated morning men >with no plans to change its existing lineup of talk in the morning >followed by rock the rest of the day." -- John Francini, francini@mac.com "The journey is more important than the destination -- that's part of life. If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always disappointed." -- Donald Knuth From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Mar 28 10:31:05 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:31:05 -0500 Subject: Herald: WBCN wooing Dennis, Callahan, "guy talk"? Message-ID: <20070328153108.AD8D149B7A9@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> >>Well, I'd like to think that moving D&C off of WEEI *might* be a Good Thing (tm) -- because I can't stand it when they talk about anything OTHER than sports Several people have said they don't like hearing non-sports stuff (and they may not agree with conservative politics). Their predecessor in that slot, Don Imus, has done mostly non-sports of course. I haven't really listened to D&C for awhile so I don't know how much time they spend they discuss politics/current events.(On the other hand, Mike Barnicle on WTKK has put it "a sprinkling of sports" on his show, to quote a WTKK promo...Bob Lobel, Dan Shaughnessy... Agreed about the end of the Globe/WEEI boycott. Yep could be a contract ploy but who knows. WBCN could easily do a guy talk or hot talk format. They could indeed swipe John & Gerry from WEEI, put on O&A tape delayed, get Tom Leykis' syndie show (as some "guy talk" stations have done); WFNY in NY is trying out Dennis Miller from CBS-associated Westwood One, and maybe that would fit... I know of two former WBCN jocks who have done talk shows: Bradley Jay, who now does fill ins for sister station WBZ...and the other guy is in the slammer unless he got out by now (Mark Parenteau) Tai has done talk for WRKO (and music for WFNX and WZLX)...he could do a talk show. btw the Free FM in NYC runs Leslie Gold "The Radio Chick" formerly of WRKO's Two Chicks Dishing and her producer, who no doubt does some on air time, is Paul "Butchie" Brennan who used to be on Howie Carr's show. Free FM in NY also has O&A, Ron and Fez, John and Jeff, Dennis Miller (temp. tryout), etc. Ron and Fez's show used to be carried here by WTKK overnight while WTKK does carry John & Jeff (out of LA) For another sports-related talker who could also do reg. talk, they could get Jimmy Myers. From n1qgs@yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 19:40:18 2007 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Frank Mallicoat Message-ID: <302624.98532.qm@web30708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've noticed that Frank Mallicoat, formerly of WB56 news has shown up a few times with news reports from the field on WMUR Channel 9 Manchester NH. Frank did sports with WMUR a long time ago. John B Derry NH From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Mar 28 23:27:12 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:27:12 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBCN wooing Dennis, Callahan, "guy talk"? In-Reply-To: References: <20070328083833.6AD4F83C15@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com>, Message-ID: <460B07E0.28774.A63E3A@joe.attorneyross.com> On 28 Mar 2007 at 8:30, John Francini wrote: > So go off to WBCN -- a station I don't listen to except for Patriots > broadcasts anyway, because what passes for "rock" on their playlists > doesn't deserve the title. I haven't listened to WBCN since they dropped classical music! Well, actually, I used to listen for awhile in the early 70s, when Charles Laquidera used to play old-time radio shows in the morning. > And while they're at it, corporate Entercom should go to corporate New > York Times, Inc. and do whatever needs to be done -- including cash > payments, if need be -- to end this stupid boycott that prevents Globe > columnists like Dan Shaugnessy, Bob Ryan, etc. from appearing on WEEI > programs. All this boycott does is make the Globe look foolish, > provincial, and snotty. Then it's corporate New York Times that should go to corporate Entercom, shouldn't it? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 29 02:05:58 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:05:58 -0500 Subject: via BRW: Celts move back to WEEI Message-ID: <20070329070558.6BC7183985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> http://www.bostonradiowatch.com "Entercom and the Boston Celtics announced earlier today that team's broadcasts are moving from talker WRKO AM 680 to clustermate sports talker WEEI-AM 850 beginning with the 2007-2008 season through the term of the current deal." The Green Team's press release: http://www.nba.com/celtics/partners/press032807-weei.html From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 29 03:01:09 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:01:09 -0500 Subject: Todd Gross lands Utah job Message-ID: <20070329080109.528A583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Let go by WHDH/7, Todd Gross has apparently latched on to a permanent job in Utah. Video clip (may only be temporary) http://www.abc4.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=60703@video.ktvx.com&navCatId=11 From francini@mac.com Thu Mar 29 08:59:00 2007 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:59:00 -0400 Subject: via BRW: Celts move back to WEEI In-Reply-To: <20070329070558.6BC7183985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070329070558.6BC7183985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Now if only the Sox would come to their senses... j On 29 Mar 2007, at 3:05, Bob Nelson wrote: > http://www.bostonradiowatch.com > > "Entercom and the Boston Celtics announced earlier today that > team's broadcasts are moving from talker WRKO AM 680 to clustermate > sports talker WEEI-AM 850 beginning with the 2007-2008 season > through the term of the current deal." > > The Green Team's press release: > http://www.nba.com/celtics/partners/press032807-weei.html > From me@billoneill.us Thu Mar 29 09:08:45 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:08:45 -0400 Subject: via BRW: Celts move back to WEEI In-Reply-To: References: <20070329070558.6BC7183985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <460BC86D.3080400@billoneill.us> John Francini wrote: > Now if only the Sox would come to their senses... > > j > Agreed. I don't get that situation either. As for WRKO regaining patent footing, it needs to do such via its core business: talk. Or, as the venerable Jerry Williams oft expounded, consider "getting out of the business." Bill O'Neill From nostaticatall@charter.net Thu Mar 29 09:51:36 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:51:36 -0400 Subject: Todd Gross lands Utah job In-Reply-To: <20070329080109.528A583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070329080109.528A583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <03e68a08d8bd61bde57d12cd9e58d7df@charter.net> I heard him do a pre-recorded weather report on WCRN last night. Is he phoning them in from SLC? Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:01 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > Let go by WHDH/7, Todd Gross has apparently latched on to a permanent > job in Utah. > > Video clip (may only be temporary) > > http://www.abc4.com/mediacenter/local.aspx? > videoId=60703@video.ktvx.com&navCatId=11 > From rickkelly@gmail.com Thu Mar 29 05:44:32 2007 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 06:44:32 -0400 Subject: Todd Gross lands Utah job In-Reply-To: <20070329080109.528A583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070329080109.528A583985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd10703290344x7bdb1a4cof6ca8cba98a7745f@mail.gmail.com> On 3/29/07, Bob Nelson wrote: > Let go by WHDH/7, Todd Gross has apparently latched on to a permanent job in Utah. Gross has been out here in the Springfield, MA area working PT at Channel 22. Meanwhile, former WBZ-TV guy weather guy Ed Carroll is now on Channel 40. -- -Rick Kelly From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 29 11:28:39 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:28:39 -0500 Subject: Todd Gross lands Utah job Message-ID: <20070329162842.BD50983C27@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> >>I heard him do a pre-recorded weather report on WCRN last night. Is he phoning them in from SLC? Could be or maybe he's still here and does the SLC forecast from some kind of remote studio in these parts! TV version of voice tracking...? From ewerme@comcast.net Fri Mar 30 10:56:28 2007 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Todd Gross lands Utah job Message-ID: <20070330145628.BA6ED1DB36@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> Bob Nelson wrote: > Let go by WHDH/7, Todd Gross has apparently latched on to a permanent job > in Utah. Todd (finally) explained what's up on his Yahoo list. Things are not quite as simple as just going to Utah and leaving New England behind. He's one of the top weather forecasters in the region and made some very good calls during the winter on http://www.toddgross.com/ . (There's a lot to be said for being free of news directors' interest in hyping the next storm....) He'll be keeping a lot of his New England presence, which includes winter work for various municipalities. TV-wise, don't expect him on Boston TV, maybe occasionally on Springfield's WWLP-TV. I'm not sure about radio. I hope he continues with Cape Cod forecasts, he's the best in the business for that region too. Fortunately, while there's still something to be said about looking out the window before releasing a forecast (or "nowcast"), a region's forecast more than a day out can be done remotely. However you must have intimate knowledge of the area's vagaries, especially in New England. Mark Twain knew that, see http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/arts/twain1.htm -Ric Werme http://werme.8m.net/ From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Mar 30 14:05:40 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:05:40 -0500 Subject: Globe article on WJIB's dilemma Message-ID: <20070330180540.8808D83BFD@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/03/30/licensing_fee_deal_is_not_beautiful_music_for_wjib/ Clea Simon writes about Bob Bittner's listener-supported plan (due to higher music licensing fees) for WJIB. Today's Globe also has an article on HD radio. From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Mar 31 03:13:41 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:13:41 -0500 Subject: WCRN to 50kW nights on Wed. Message-ID: <20070331071341.AE50383C14@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> WCRN AM 830 in Worcester will go to 50,000 nights (it already is, days) starting this Wed. Howie Carr mentioned tonight that he got the news from WCRN's owner; the FCC gave its permission. The signal will push significantly eastward at night. From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Mar 31 11:06:43 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:06:43 -0500 Subject: WCRN to 50kW nights on Wed. Message-ID: <20070331150643.D625683985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Howie had mentioned it around 6:45 pm or so last night. WRKO had switched to Celtics pre-game but his show was on WCRN. I was picking it up at work inside the N. Reading post office, though faint, and what I thought I heard him say was that he had been talking "just now" to the "owner" of WCRN (think he said the name Carberry, which sounds about right) and he'd been told that Wednesday would be the day that WCRN would be boosting its power: "they finally got the OK from the FCC". >>I've seen nothing so far in the FCC daily digest WCRN had been aiming to get the power boost going by the start of the Red Sox season. If this info is right, they'll have it by the _second game_ of the season, an 8 pm start. (As has been mentioned, they are now a Red Sox affiliate as is WVEI 1440 Worcester-- both WCRN and WVEI will be running ads but only WVEI will get the money. Entercom wanted a stronger station in MetroWest and Carter Broadcasting figures WCRN can get more well known ("Listen to all the games with 50,000 Watts of Nighttime power!" says their site) This article from last November talks about WCRN getting Sox rights, and mentions that WCRN had tried to boost to 50kW in the past (full time), but they had run "into permitting issues with the town of Leicester over building a fourth radio tower". http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061116/NEWS/611160680/1009/SPORTS From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Mar 31 11:16:15 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:16:15 -0500 Subject: Eagle Country 97.5 debuts in Bristol, VT Message-ID: <20070331151615.EB58549B814@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> WTNN (The Nashville Network? :)) 97.5 in Bristol VT has unveiled its format: country (the kids in Bristol are sharp as a pistol when they do the "Bristol Stomp", but in Bristol _Vermont_ it's more likely to be the Boot Scootin' Boogie!) Competition for country fans in the area includes Burlington's WOKO 98.9 and Addison's WUSX 93.7 http://www.eaglecountry975.com/ From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Mar 31 12:25:56 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:25:56 -0400 Subject: J.J. Jackson at WTUR Message-ID: <20070331162615.AE7E05FDF7A@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> I found an article from an old (1970) Boston magazine about WBCN, and it said J.J.Jackson first worked at WTUR at Tufts. The article says the station was an FM-- but I thought it was an AM. Do any of you recall the station? I know the story that is on Wikipedia about it, but before it got in trouble with Tufts, was it in fact a regular college station, or was it always an illegal station? Does anyone remember it? From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Mar 31 12:36:45 2007 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:36:45 -0400 Subject: Stations for sale in Portland Message-ID: <830495239A3B47D5965023DBD2027E86@DanBillingsPC> Scott Fybusg's Northeast Radio Watch reports that Citadel must sell WCYI (93.9 Lewiston) and WCLZ (98.9 Brunswick) as a result of Citadel's purchase of ABC Radio. (I worked at both stations under former owners.) Does anyone have any informed speculation of what company might buy the stations? Are Saga and Nassau at the limits for the market? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Mar 31 19:47:27 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:47:27 -0500 Subject: Ron Robin wants to buy WCDJ 102.3 Truro/Cape Cod Message-ID: <20070331234727.CBDE849B809@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> http://www.provincetownbanner.com/article/news_article/_/47220/News/3/29/2007 "Robin says he and his partners plan to broadcast an oldies music format, covering the ?60s, ?70s and ?80s. He says he anticipates taking an on-air shift, possibly in the form of a morning show where he can talk to people on-air and ?clown around a bit." Coverage map: a lot more ocean than land! http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WCDJ&service=FM&status=L&hours=U From me@billoneill.us Sat Mar 31 20:24:56 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:24:56 -0400 Subject: WTNN Bristol VT Message-ID: <460EFBD8.30308@billoneill.us> Scanned upon the new FM Scott had referenced in NERW. WTNN (97.5 Bristol) is going by "Eagle Country Ninety Seven Five" and seem to be running a contemporary country mix, jockless, standard big-boy voice liners. The TOH liner referenced something about serving two states, Burlington, Plattsburg. The COL was a few dB in the mix. The signal here in Shoreham only ok (about 20 mi. south with topographical challenges.) If they want to be a player in the B/P market, they will have their hands full chasing Hall's deeply rooted WOKO (98.9 Burlington). Bill O'Neill