From kvahey@gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 14:30:37 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:30:37 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
Message-ID: <4fc429770707031130qfbcb0cdqab7a6d91773ed450@mail.gmail.com>

For the life of me I can not understand how WEEI-FM Westerly.RI has
the signal it does. This morning I picked it up in New Haven and never
lost it all the way to West Yarmouth on the Cape.

Can anybody explain why the signal is that good?

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Tue Jul  3 14:43:31 2007
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 13:43:31 -0500
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
Message-ID: <20070703184332.1022A49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>

>>Can anybody explain why the signal is that good?

Location, location, location! Flat land...?
Coverage map:
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WEEI&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

Radio-locator lists it at 37kW, 567ft Height Above Average Terrain,
non directional, and 827 ft above sea level etc. It just happens to be
within good proximity of Providence, southeast MA, eastern CT, 
the area south of Boston, Worcester...the map shows the fringe
area comes close to Springfield, even. And eastern tip of Long Island.

The map on Radio-locator shows it's actually a bit further
northeast of Westerly than I thought.



From wollman@bimajority.org  Tue Jul  3 14:56:05 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:56:05 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
In-Reply-To: <20070703184332.1022A49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070703184332.1022A49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <18058.39877.334534.177187@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 13:43:31 -0500, "Bob Nelson" <raccoonradio@mail.com> said:

> The map on Radio-locator shows it's actually a bit further
> northeast of Westerly than I thought.

The current WEEI-FM is on the same tower as WSKO-FM (99.7
Wakefield-Peace Dale).  It used to be much closer to Westerly, but was
upgraded a few owners ago to put more of its signal over land.

Yes, this means that the Red Sox and Yankees affiliates for Providence
are both transmitting from the same tower.

-GAWollman


From kvahey@gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 15:00:44 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:00:44 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
In-Reply-To: <20070703184332.1022A49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070703184332.1022A49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707031200i3e982567i4db871fe4bcf5e74@mail.gmail.com>

I think I was most surprised that the signal was still solid on the
Cape. It was a big gamble by Entercom to buy that signal from the
Phoenix but it has paid off bigtime.

I am not sure how well WVEI-FM Easthampton is doing.




On 7/3/07, Bob Nelson <raccoonradio@mail.com> wrote:
> >>Can anybody explain why the signal is that good?
>
> Location, location, location! Flat land...?
> Coverage map:
> http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WEEI&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

From wollman@bimajority.org  Tue Jul  3 15:06:53 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:06:53 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707031200i3e982567i4db871fe4bcf5e74@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20070703184332.1022A49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>
	<4fc429770707031200i3e982567i4db871fe4bcf5e74@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <18058.40525.131937.139416@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:00:44 -0400, "Kevin Vahey" <kvahey@gmail.com> said:

> I am not sure how well WVEI-FM Easthampton is doing.

Still operating under Program Test Authority last I heard.  (I saw the
antenna for the first time on Saturday.)

-GAWollman


From pete@partnercomm.com  Tue Jul  3 15:08:37 2007
From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:08:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707031130qfbcb0cdqab7a6d91773ed450@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0707031448490.18917-100000@eminence.partnercomm.com>

Sounds like a combination of factors - a good car radio (decent combo of
selectivity and sensitivity), and you're driving across the diameter of
its (approximately) 40dBu coverage.

103.7B in Westerley doesn't have anything too close-spaced to it. As you
travel east from New Haven, you'll receive some adjacent-channel signal
from two separate 103.9 class A signals (WFAS, Bronxville NY / WRCN,
Riverhead NY), and some from class B 103.5 (WKTU, NYC). As you continue
east past Sagamore and Otis AFB, you'll start to receive more
adjacent-channel signal from WKPE (103.9, South Yarmouth). Co-channel WKNE 
is over 107 miles away, and terrain does a great deal to block its signal 
from having much strength by Springfield or anywhere south of Worcester.

Philip Urso picked a good spot for it, back in the days of WWRX.

-Peter

--
Peter Murray (N3IXY)
Oak Hill, VA

On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Kevin Vahey wrote:

> For the life of me I can not understand how WEEI-FM Westerly.RI has
> the signal it does. This morning I picked it up in New Haven and never
> lost it all the way to West Yarmouth on the Cape.
> 
> Can anybody explain why the signal is that good?
> 


From nostaticatall@charter.net  Tue Jul  3 15:39:09 2007
From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:39:09 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0707031448490.18917-100000@eminence.partnercomm.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0707031448490.18917-100000@eminence.partnercomm.com>
Message-ID: <1c38ab5ba18994194281d3437a1ee7d5@charter.net>

Plus, don't forget about WPKQ on Mount Washington but again, little of 
that travels south to interfere with WEEI-FM.  In fact, the next time 
you drive south out of the White Mountains, put your radio on 103.7.  
Depending on reception conditions, elevation changes and bends in the 
road, WKNE, WPKQ and WEEI-FM will blow in and out as you drive.  Kind 
of neat, actually.

Dave Tomm
"Mike Thomas"

On Jul 3, 2007, at 3:08 PM, Peter Murray wrote:

> Sounds like a combination of factors - a good car radio (decent combo 
> of
> selectivity and sensitivity), and you're driving across the diameter of
> its (approximately) 40dBu coverage.
>
> 103.7B in Westerley doesn't have anything too close-spaced to it. As 
> you
> travel east from New Haven, you'll receive some adjacent-channel signal
> from two separate 103.9 class A signals (WFAS, Bronxville NY / WRCN,
> Riverhead NY), and some from class B 103.5 (WKTU, NYC). As you continue
> east past Sagamore and Otis AFB, you'll start to receive more
> adjacent-channel signal from WKPE (103.9, South Yarmouth). Co-channel 
> WKNE
> is over 107 miles away, and terrain does a great deal to block its 
> signal
> from having much strength by Springfield or anywhere south of 
> Worcester.
>
> Philip Urso picked a good spot for it, back in the days of WWRX.
>
> -Peter
>
> --
> Peter Murray (N3IXY)
> Oak Hill, VA
>
> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Kevin Vahey wrote:
>
>> For the life of me I can not understand how WEEI-FM Westerly.RI has
>> the signal it does. This morning I picked it up in New Haven and never
>> lost it all the way to West Yarmouth on the Cape.
>>
>> Can anybody explain why the signal is that good?
>>
>


From lglavin@mail.com  Tue Jul  3 15:39:50 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:39:50 -0500
Subject: What City Is This?
Message-ID: <20070703193950.68BB116427B@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>

WTTT-AM 1150's website:

http://www.talk1150.com

...displays the skyline of a city somewhere that is defintely NOT
Boston.  Isn't it wonderful to have so much absentee ownership that
when one of them designs the website of their listener-challenged outlet they
can't even bother to find a picture of the City of License?
Does anybody know what city this actually is?

-- 
We've Got Your Name at http://www.mail.com!
Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains



From raccoonradio@mail.com  Tue Jul  3 16:11:07 2007
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:11:07 -0500
Subject: What City Is This?
Message-ID: <20070703201108.B7D4083985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>

I thought there's an outside chance it could be Cleveland. One pyramid-shaped building could be
Rock n Roll hall of Fame and another could be Terminal Tower...I could be way off though.



From kvahey@gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 16:42:08 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:42:08 -0400
Subject: What City Is This?
In-Reply-To: <20070703201108.B7D4083985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070703201108.B7D4083985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707031342k3536c140h1b407896aaef6a56@mail.gmail.com>

Baltimore

http://www.citiscapes-art.com/cities2/baltimore/54979pi.jpg

From radiotest@cox.net  Tue Jul  3 18:01:28 2007
From: radiotest@cox.net (Dale H. Cook)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:01:28 -0400
Subject: What City Is This?
In-Reply-To: <20070703193950.68BB116427B@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070703193950.68BB116427B@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070703180042.03818ea0@cox.net>

At 03:39 PM 7/3/2007, Laurence Glavin wrote:

>WTTT-AM 1150's website:
>
>http://www.talk1150.com
>
>...displays the skyline of a city somewhere that is defintely NOT
>Boston.  Isn't it wonderful to have so much absentee ownership that
>when one of them designs the website of their listener-challenged outlet they
>can't even bother to find a picture of the City of License?
>Does anybody know what city this actually is?

It is Baltimore:

http://www.usatourist.com/english/places/maryland/baltimore.html

Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, 
Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ
http://members.cox.net/dalehcook/starcity.shtml 


From mike@miscon.net  Tue Jul  3 19:03:02 2007
From: mike@miscon.net (mike@miscon.net)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:03:02 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: What City Is This?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070703180042.03818ea0@cox.net>
References: <20070703193950.68BB116427B@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20070703180042.03818ea0@cox.net>
Message-ID: <.24.60.119.12.1183503782.squirrel@mail.miscon.net>



All I'm seeing at this time is stylized stars and stripes

>
At 03:39 PM 7/3/2007, Laurence Glavin wrote:
> 
>>WTTT-AM 1150's website:
>>
>>http://www.talk1150.com
>>
>>...displays
the skyline of a city somewhere that is defintely NOT
>>Boston.
 Isn't it wonderful to have so much absentee ownership that
>>when one of them designs the website of their
listener-challenged outlet
>> they
>>can't even
bother to find a picture of the City of License?
>>Does anybody
know what city this actually is?
> 
> It is Baltimore:
> 
>
http://www.usatourist.com/english/places/maryland/baltimore.html
>

> Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting,
> Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ
>
http://members.cox.net/dalehcook/starcity.shtml
> 
>




From scott@fybush.com  Tue Jul  3 20:21:23 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:21:23 -0400
Subject: What City Is This?
In-Reply-To: <.24.60.119.12.1183503782.squirrel@mail.miscon.net>
References: <20070703193950.68BB116427B@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>	<7.0.1.0.2.20070703180042.03818ea0@cox.net>
	<.24.60.119.12.1183503782.squirrel@mail.miscon.net>
Message-ID: <468AE803.3070603@fybush.com>

mike@miscon.net wrote:
> 
> All I'm seeing at this time is stylized stars and stripes

OK. Who from Salem reads this mailing list? :-)

s

From madprof@ix.netcom.com  Tue Jul  3 19:57:00 2007
From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:57:00 -0400
Subject: WKFD 1370 Ri  (deformatted)
Message-ID: <380-220077232357062@ix.netcom.com>

Originally the tiny Wickford station; 
in 1985, 500w d   41:33:57, 71:27:19.
Sometime tower crashed, then they ran a long wire held up by a balloon;
250w d, 130w n   41:34:00,71:27:08.
Then silent. (pre 1994) 
2003 FCC data base listed as license cancelled.
 
now, as I'm updating my RI maps, I find FCC data base lists:
WKFD, cp to Charlestown, RI (mainland south coast)  41:22:38,71:39:50,  
directional, 3 in-line towers, primary lobe 140 degrees
2.5k day (with large (~1/3) lobe opposite (320 deg))
5k night  (~cardioid, with minor lobe opposite)
 
The patterns only seriously cover Block Island, daytime into Westerly, 
with some signal to Norwich CT, maybe Storrs & Putnam.
Nighttime also some to Westerly, Wakefield-Peacedale, maybe Newport.
 
Wondering if anyone has knowledge?  
Apparently the WKFD call was not otherwise reserved?
Is ASTRO TELE-COMMUNICATIONS CORP intending Block Island & 
the rest of coverage is by chance?   Do they own any other stations? 
 
thanks.
Bob Sutherlan


From scott@fybush.com  Tue Jul  3 20:54:11 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:54:11 -0400
Subject: WKFD 1370 Ri  (deformatted)
In-Reply-To: <380-220077232357062@ix.netcom.com>
References: <380-220077232357062@ix.netcom.com>
Message-ID: <468AEFB3.7080902@fybush.com>

Robert F. Sutherland wrote:

> Wondering if anyone has knowledge?  
> Apparently the WKFD call was not otherwise reserved?
> Is ASTRO TELE-COMMUNICATIONS CORP intending Block Island & 
> the rest of coverage is by chance?   Do they own any other stations? 

The new WKFD has no connection to the old WKFD, which ended under 
slightly shady circumstances. Before the license was deleted completely, 
the old WKFD operated for a brief time (circa 1994) from a different 
transmitter site inland a bit from the old tower site. This was 
apparently an unauthorized change of transmitter site, of control and 
even of call, since the station was calling itself "WEGM" for a while. 
(I have pictures and tape of it.)

The new 1370 was applied for during the last window for major AM changes 
and new AM stations. Under current rules, you can't apply for a new 
daytimer, as the old WKFD was, and any new station has to provide 
considerably greater protection to other occupants of the channel 
(primarily, in this case, WFEA, WALK and WNRI, but also WLYN, WDRC, 
WINY, WNBH, WPLM and WHTB) than the old WKFD's grandfathered signal did.

Astro bought the CP from the original applicant, who simply shoehorned 
in a 1370 signal in about the only place that it would fit - right on 
the coast, aimed out at sea. Astro owns WADK 1540 in Newport and WJZS 
99.3 on Block Island, so this 1370 is at least somewhat complementary to 
those signals, notwithstanding the lack of a night signal over Aquidneck 
Island.

It's not at all clear to me how anyone would make money on this signal 
(well, except by applying for the CP and then selling it, unbuilt, that is.)

And yes, the WKFD calls were simply unassigned and available when Astro 
bought the CP.

s

From radiotest@cox.net  Tue Jul  3 23:02:05 2007
From: radiotest@cox.net (Dale H. Cook)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:02:05 -0400
Subject: What City Is This?
In-Reply-To: <3c6f0dce0707031636s7f99c872mea2d92dcb94723c3@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <20070703193950.68BB116427B@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20070703180042.03818ea0@cox.net>
	<.24.60.119.12.1183503782.squirrel@mail.miscon.net>
	<3c6f0dce0707031636s7f99c872mea2d92dcb94723c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070703225957.03883c08@cox.net>

At 07:36 PM 7/3/2007, Keith Lavon wrote:

>Looks like the saw this thread and changed it already. It was not 
>Boston before.

I suspect that the Stars and Stripes are up there for the holiday.

Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, 
Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ
http://members.cox.net/dalehcook/starcity.shtml 


From kc1ih@mac.com  Wed Jul  4 00:16:49 2007
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 00:16:49 -0400
Subject: What City Is This?
In-Reply-To: <468AE803.3070603@fybush.com>
References: <20070703193950.68BB116427B@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20070703180042.03818ea0@cox.net>
	<".24.60.119.12.1183503782.squirrel"@mail.miscon.net>
	<468AE803.3070603@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <p06240800c2b0cf902ef3@[192.168.0.100]>

At 8:21 PM -0400 7/3/07, Scott Fybush wrote:
>mike@miscon.net wrote:
>>
>>All I'm seeing at this time is stylized stars and stripes
>
>OK. Who from Salem reads this mailing list? :-)

Which Salem?

-- 
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone (Salem), NH

From joe@attorneyross.com  Wed Jul  4 14:14:49 2007
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:14:49 -0500
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
In-Reply-To: <18058.40525.131937.139416@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <20070703184332.1022A49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>,
	<4fc429770707031200i3e982567i4db871fe4bcf5e74@mail.gmail.com>,
	<18058.40525.131937.139416@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <468B9D49.5848.476855@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 3 Jul 2007 at 15:06, Garrett Wollman wrote:

> <<On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:00:44 -0400, "Kevin Vahey" <kvahey@gmail.com>
> said:
> 
> > I am not sure how well WVEI-FM Easthampton is doing.
> 
> Still operating under Program Test Authority last I heard.  (I saw the
> antenna for the first time on Saturday.)

WHMP in Northampton was still broadcasting Red Sox games when I was 
out there in mid-May.  But its satellite station in Springfield was 
not. 

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street	                                  Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From revdoug1@verizon.net  Wed Jul  4 15:28:16 2007
From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:28:16 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
References: <20070703184332.1022A49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>,
	<4fc429770707031200i3e982567i4db871fe4bcf5e74@mail.gmail.com>,
	<18058.40525.131937.139416@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<468B9D49.5848.476855@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c7be71$796e92a0$6501a8c0@pastor2>

I thought WHMP in Northampton and WHAI in Greenfield exchanged call letters
. . . or am I wrong?

-Doug


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com>
To: "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org>
Cc: <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: WEEI 103.7 signal


> On 3 Jul 2007 at 15:06, Garrett Wollman wrote:
>
> > <<On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:00:44 -0400, "Kevin Vahey" <kvahey@gmail.com>
> > said:
> >
> > > I am not sure how well WVEI-FM Easthampton is doing.
> >
> > Still operating under Program Test Authority last I heard.  (I saw the
> > antenna for the first time on Saturday.)
>
> WHMP in Northampton was still broadcasting Red Sox games when I was
> out there in mid-May.  But its satellite station in Springfield was
> not.
>
> -- 
> A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
>  92 State Street                                   Fax 617.507.7856
> Boston, MA 02109                    http://www.attorneyross.com
>
>


From raccoonradio@gmail.com  Wed Jul  4 16:44:19 2007
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 16:44:19 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
In-Reply-To: <001d01c7be71$796e92a0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
References: <20070703184332.1022A49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>
	<4fc429770707031200i3e982567i4db871fe4bcf5e74@mail.gmail.com>
	<18058.40525.131937.139416@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<468B9D49.5848.476855@joe.attorneyross.com>
	<001d01c7be71$796e92a0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
Message-ID: <1fbbbced0707041344k7cc9c8favc88d77eab354662a@mail.gmail.com>

I believe 1400 is Northampton is WHMP; the 1600 in E. Longmeadow is WHNP,
and the 1240 in Greenfield is WHMQ.

From revdoug1@verizon.net  Wed Jul  4 17:58:23 2007
From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 17:58:23 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
References: <20070703184332.1022A49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>
	<4fc429770707031200i3e982567i4db871fe4bcf5e74@mail.gmail.com>
	<18058.40525.131937.139416@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<468B9D49.5848.476855@joe.attorneyross.com>
	<001d01c7be71$796e92a0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
	<1fbbbced0707041344k7cc9c8favc88d77eab354662a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005b01c7be86$71995dc0$6501a8c0@pastor2>

 . . . So . . . the WHAI calls no longer exist in the Valley?

-Doug

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Nelson" <raccoonradio@gmail.com>
To: "Doug Drown" <revdoug1@verizon.net>
Cc: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com>; "Garrett Wollman"
<wollman@bimajority.org>; <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: WEEI 103.7 signal


> I believe 1400 is Northampton is WHMP; the 1600 in E. Longmeadow is WHNP,
> and the 1240 in Greenfield is WHMQ.


From jjlehmann@comcast.net  Wed Jul  4 18:32:05 2007
From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 18:32:05 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
In-Reply-To: <005b01c7be86$71995dc0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
Message-ID: <000901c7be8b$270fd8b0$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1>

>  . . . So . . . the WHAI calls no longer exist in the Valley?

They're still on 98.3.

Jeff Lehmann
Hanson, MA


From paul@derrynh.net  Wed Jul  4 19:12:23 2007
From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 19:12:23 -0400
Subject: What City Is This?
In-Reply-To: <.24.60.119.12.1183503782.squirrel@mail.miscon.net>
Message-ID: <001e01c7be90$c875f450$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>

Apparently Salem Radio Networks DOES monitor this list....or did someone
e-mail them.

(The Baltimore Skyline was up there as recently as yesterday 7/3)

Paul Hopfgarten
Derry NH

-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
mike@miscon.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 7:03 PM
To: Dale H. Cook
Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org
Subject: Re: What City Is This?



All I'm seeing at this time is stylized stars and stripes

>
At 03:39 PM 7/3/2007, Laurence Glavin wrote:
> 
>>WTTT-AM 1150's website:
>>
>>http://www.talk1150.com
>>
>>...displays
the skyline of a city somewhere that is defintely NOT
>>Boston.
 Isn't it wonderful to have so much absentee ownership that
>>when one of them designs the website of their
listener-challenged outlet
>> they
>>can't even
bother to find a picture of the City of License?
>>Does anybody
know what city this actually is?
> 
> It is Baltimore:
> 
>
http://www.usatourist.com/english/places/maryland/baltimore.html
>

> Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting,
> Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ
>
http://members.cox.net/dalehcook/starcity.shtml
> 
>




From kvahey@gmail.com  Wed Jul  4 18:00:04 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 18:00:04 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
In-Reply-To: <005b01c7be86$71995dc0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
References: <20070703184332.1022A49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>
	<4fc429770707031200i3e982567i4db871fe4bcf5e74@mail.gmail.com>
	<18058.40525.131937.139416@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<468B9D49.5848.476855@joe.attorneyross.com>
	<001d01c7be71$796e92a0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
	<1fbbbced0707041344k7cc9c8favc88d77eab354662a@mail.gmail.com>
	<005b01c7be86$71995dc0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707041500t30c363e9ke9a79dc713f60a43@mail.gmail.com>

There is still WHAI FM in Greenfield

From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Thu Jul  5 10:49:56 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 10:49:56 -0400
Subject: WBZ/Esplanade
Message-ID: <004f01c7bf13$d5ee0c20$6801a8c0@DESKTOP2>

Did anyone else catch WBZ Radio's coverage of thye Esplanade concert?

I thought Jordan Rich did a good job being his amiable self.

Although the music quality left a lot to be desired.  I don't know if it was 
compressed to crap...or if the audio chain of WBZ (Which I assume is set up 
for voice) just did a number on the music.

Also, apart from that, there was what I percived to be static...and some 
microwave issues(?),

Anyone else catch it?




From elipolo@earthlink.net  Thu Jul  5 12:20:27 2007
From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:20:27 -0400
Subject: WBZ/Esplanade
Message-ID: <C2B2928B.34C5%elipolo@earthlink.net>

> > From: "Don A" <donald_astelle@yahoo.com>
> To: "Boston Radio" <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 10:49:56 -0400
> Subject: WBZ/Esplanade
> 
> Although the music quality left a lot to be desired.
> I don't know if it was compressed to crap...or if the
> audio chain of WBZ (Which I assume is set up for voice)
> just did a number on the music.

AM stations that run IBOC must run an even more limited
frequency response on their analog signals than stations
that don't, and they don't change that processing even
when they aren't running IBOC at night.

When WBZ first turned on the IBOC a few years ago, there
was a simultaneous sharp drop in their analog frequency
response. It was unfortunate considering what a good
sounding analog AM WBZ once was (though I do have an HD
receiver and appreciate how good WBZ sounds in HD stereo
in the daytime).

It's unfortunate that they don't change their processing
for that special event as long as they're not running
IBOC at night, but they don't.

EP





From scott@fybush.com  Thu Jul  5 12:31:07 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:31:07 -0400
Subject: WBZ/Esplanade
In-Reply-To: <C2B2928B.34C5%elipolo@earthlink.net>
References: <C2B2928B.34C5%elipolo@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <468D1CCB.5040109@fybush.com>

Eli Polonsky wrote:

> AM stations that run IBOC must run an even more limited
> frequency response on their analog signals than stations
> that don't, and they don't change that processing even
> when they aren't running IBOC at night.

They're not required to stay with the narrow analog bandwidth when the 
IBOC goes off, and not all do. WLS in Chicago even turns their AM stereo 
back on at sunset.

It's trivial, in a modern Omnia or Orban processor, to set up timer 
schedules that will adjust processing depending on daypart. We do it at 
WXXI in Rochester for the University of Rochester FM that we manage, 
WRUR, which needs different processing depending on whether it's 
simulcasting our news-talk AM, running a AAA format we produce during 
the day, or running student rock mixed with various obscenities at night...

s

From readaaron@friedbagels.com  Thu Jul  5 11:21:16 2007
From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:21:16 -0400
Subject: WBZ/Esplanade
Message-ID: <468D0C6C.9050601@friedbagels.com>

I was a bit surprised that WBZ didn't get an STA to run their IBOC 
carriers late that night to provide better audio quality for the show. 
(I checked, they weren't on)

Or maybe they tried and were denied?

BTW, in regards to WEEI-FM, I can (with a decent car radio) hear them 
pretty well if I'm on the south side of Corey Hill in 
Brighton/Brookline.  It's not good reception; lots of other interfering 
signals overriding 103.7...but it's there.  It's arguably one of the 
best stations in Rhode Island to get "overall regional coverage".

-- 


--------------------------
Aaron Read
readaaron@friedbagels.com
Boston, MA 02446-2204



Did anyone else catch WBZ Radio's coverage of thye Esplanade concert?

I thought Jordan Rich did a good job being his amiable self.

Although the music quality left a lot to be desired.  I don't know if it 
was compressed to crap...or if the audio chain of WBZ (Which I assume is 
set up for voice) just did a number on the music.

Also, apart from that, there was what I percived to be static...and some
microwave issues(?),

Anyone else catch it?

From elipolo@earthlink.net  Thu Jul  5 13:13:20 2007
From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:13:20 -0400
Subject: WBZ/Esplanade
Message-ID: <C2B29EEF.34C7%elipolo@earthlink.net>

--- Scott Fybush <scott@fybush.com> wrote:

> Eli Polonsky wrote:
> 
> > AM stations that run IBOC must run an even more limited
> > frequency response on their analog signals than stations
> > that don't, and they don't change that processing even
> > when they aren't running IBOC at night.
> 
> They're not required to stay with the narrow analog bandwidth
> when the IBOC goes off, and not all do. WLS in Chicago even
> turns their AM stereo back on at sunset.

WBZ could also change their processing at night, but they
don't seem to have their act together to do that. I remember
a few years ago they promoted that they were going to switch
on their AM stereo for the 4'th festivities. They actually
promoted it pretty heavily for a couple of days leading up
to it. I assume this would've meant going to their backup
transmitter, which was still AM stereo at the time. When it
came time for the 4'th broadcast that year, their promoted
switching on of AM stereo never ended up actually happening.

EP


From kvahey@gmail.com  Thu Jul  5 13:20:42 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 13:20:42 -0400
Subject: when analog TV signals end
Message-ID: <4fc429770707051020y4182f83ua7110bf808acee3@mail.gmail.com>

I was just thinking today that when WBZ-TV rebranded themselves simply
WBZ was this a hint of what will happen in a couple of years when
analog channel numbers become just a memory.

WCVB is calling themselves The Boston Channel more and more for example.

It will be curious how it plays out.

From scott@fybush.com  Thu Jul  5 13:34:51 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:34:51 -0400
Subject: when analog TV signals end
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707051020y4182f83ua7110bf808acee3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4fc429770707051020y4182f83ua7110bf808acee3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <468D2BBB.8040804@fybush.com>

Kevin Vahey wrote:
> I was just thinking today that when WBZ-TV rebranded themselves simply
> WBZ was this a hint of what will happen in a couple of years when
> analog channel numbers become just a memory.
> 
> WCVB is calling themselves The Boston Channel more and more for example.
> 
> It will be curious how it plays out.
> 

This has been one of the most common misconceptions of the DTV 
conversion, even (sometimes) within stations themselves.

Because DTV tuners remap the channels they receive, concealing the 
underlying RF channel number in the process, the average viewer will 
never know (and never needs to know) that "channel 5" is actually RF 
channel 20, or that "channel 4" is actually RF channel 30. In fact, the 
FCC's guidelines specifically mandate that stations must continue to use 
their present analog channel number as their virtual channel number even 
after the analog sunset.

If anything, the analog broadcast channel number is a little MORE 
important now than it may have been a few years ago, since it's not only 
the mapped channel number that the DTV signal uses, but also the channel 
number that Dish and DirecTV use. (This may help to explain why WLVI 
seems to be slowly returning to "CW56" branding after several years as 
"CW Boston" and "Boston's WB" before that.)

On the whole, I think this is a good thing for consumers, since it makes 
the DTV conversion much more straightforward (no worrying about "why is 
WHDH on channel 42?," or wondering "why did it go back to 7?" in 2009). 
The only issue it raises, and it's a minor one, is with antennas. Right 
now, I know I need a low-band VHF antenna to watch channel 4, a 
high-band VHF antenna to watch 7, and a UHF antenna to watch 38. After 
2009, a consumer (or, more likely, an antenna installer) will still need 
to know the underlying RF channel numbers to determine whether a 
UHF-only antenna will work, or whether a VHF antenna will be needed as 
well. In Boston, I believe 7 will be the only VHF DT remaining after the 
conversion, but Providence will have 3 of its 7 signals on VHF when it's 
all done (WJAR back on 10, WPRI on 13, and WNAC moving to 12 after WPRI 
vacates it. Yes, that means TVs tuned to "12" will really be on 13, and 
"64" will really be on 12, but that's why the remapping is there, so 
only we geeks need to worry about it.)

s

From sid@wrko.com  Thu Jul  5 13:36:08 2007
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:36:08 -0600
Subject: when analog TV signals end
Message-ID: <s68cd7c0.085@entbalms2.entercom.com>

>>I was just thinking today that when WBZ-TV rebranded themselves
simply
WBZ was this a hint of what will happen in a couple of years when
analog channel numbers become just a memory.<<

They won't become just a memory, but they will be, in some cases,
relatively meaningless.  Channel numbers will be programmable in
software at the TV station and transmitted with the digital data stream.
 If WBZ-DT wishes to ID themselves on receivers as channel 4 while
transmitting on channel 30, 4 is what will show up on the TV sets.



Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF
WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Boston MA  02135-2040
Phone: 617-779-5369
Fax: 617-779-5379
E-Mail: sid@wrko.com

From sid@wrko.com  Thu Jul  5 14:06:35 2007
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:06:35 -0600
Subject: when analog TV signals end
Message-ID: <s68cdedc.079@entbalms2.entercom.com>

>>After February, 2009, could cable operators  transfer over-the-air outlets 
anywhere they want, and put the cable channels that pay them the most money
on channels 2 thru 20?<<

As far as I know, the pertinent rule is 47 CFR ?76.57, which states in part that cable-channel assignments for must-carry stations in a community are up to the station or may be mutually agreed upon by both the station and the cable operator, and any existing agreements for channel assignments would not stop at the DTV transition date.  Further, it appears from the wording of the rule that the data stream which contains the channel-display info for DTV stations would have to be transmitted intact through the cable system.



Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF
WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Boston MA  02135-2040
Phone: 617-779-5369
Fax: 617-779-5379
E-Mail: sid@wrko.com



From brian_vita@cssinc.com  Thu Jul  5 13:37:45 2007
From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:37:45 -0400
Subject: WBZ/Esplanade
In-Reply-To: <468D0C6C.9050601@friedbagels.com>
References: <468D0C6C.9050601@friedbagels.com>
Message-ID: <468D2C69.6010402@cssinc.com>

They probably thought that for the 1% or less of us out there listening 
in HD, it wasn't worth the effort.

Brian
Aaron Read wrote:
> I was a bit surprised that WBZ didn't get an STA to run their IBOC 
> carriers late that night to provide better audio quality for the show. 
> (I checked, they weren't on)
>
> Or maybe they tried and were denied?
>
> BTW, in regards to WEEI-FM, I can (with a decent car radio) hear them 
> pretty well if I'm on the south side of Corey Hill in 
> Brighton/Brookline.  It's not good reception; lots of other 
> interfering signals overriding 103.7...but it's there.  It's arguably 
> one of the best stations in Rhode Island to get "overall regional 
> coverage".
>


From marklaurence@mac.com  Thu Jul  5 14:39:49 2007
From: marklaurence@mac.com (marklaurence@mac.com)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:39:49 -0700
Subject: when analog TV signals end
In-Reply-To: <s68cd7c0.085@entbalms2.entercom.com>
References: <s68cd7c0.085@entbalms2.entercom.com>
Message-ID: <87E12A79-0113-1000-DF8C-AD454AE8B28E-Webmail-10025@mac.com>

 On Thursday, July 05, 2007, at 01:38PM, "Sid Schweiger" <sid@wrko.com> wrote:

>They won't become just a memory, but they will be, in some cases,
>relatively meaningless.  Channel numbers will be programmable in
>software at the TV station and transmitted with the digital data stream.
> If WBZ-DT wishes to ID themselves on receivers as channel 4 while
>transmitting on channel 30, 4 is what will show up on the TV sets.

Wouldn't it be worth it for all the broadcast networks to get together and agree on a single channel number for all their affiliates?   It would be temporary confusion for sure, but no more than when local stations swapped affiliates.  They could promote their channel numbers nationally, and even rename themselves like "Channel 4" in the UK.  It would give them a big advantage over all the cable networks which always find themselves in some forgettable position like channel 164.

Mark

From lglavin@mail.com  Thu Jul  5 12:57:10 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:57:10 -0500
Subject: What City Is This?
Message-ID: <20070705165711.14E371CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Scott Fybush" 
>To: mike@miscon.net
>Subject: Re: What City Is This?
>Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:21:23 -0400

>mike@miscon.net wrote:
>
> All I'm seeing at this time is stylized stars and stripes
>OK. Who from Salem reads this mailing list? :-)

>s

If you scurry on over to:

htgp://www.universalhub.com

and scroll down to the item labelled "Generictown", you can view the WTTT
Home Page as it was until a day or two ago.  My comment on the B.R.I.G.
is referenced (although my first name is misspelled).  It's  possible that
it was THIS item that was viewed by WTTT "management"and then the change was made.
Somebody at Salem Communications/Boston may be serarching for a suitable Boston 
skyline photo to replace the Flag log after the holiday period...
or since right-wingers believe they have a patent on patriotism, WTTT may keep
the flag.  
S
I
D
E
B
A
R: if you go to universal.hub.com later in the day, the entry entitled
"Cannon on the Charles"will contain my observation on the relative merits
(or lack thereof) of Tchaikovky's "1812 Overture"and Beethoven's 
"Wellington's Victory." 


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From lglavin@mail.com  Thu Jul  5 13:42:36 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:42:36 -0500
Subject: when analog TV signals end
Message-ID: <20070705174236.32F9C102EB@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com>


>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sid Schweiger" 
>To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org
>Subject: Re: when analog TV signals end
>Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:36:08 -0600

>They won't become just a memory, but they will be, in some cases,
>relatively meaningless. Channel numbers will be programmable in
>software at the TV station and transmitted with the digital data stream.
>If WBZ-DT wishes to ID themselves on receivers as channel 4 while
>transmitting on channel 30, 4 is what will show up on the TV sets.

>Sid Schweiger
>IT Manager, Entercom New England

A friend of mine is a school teacher, and for several years, he "worked"
as a house-sitter during the summer in a few ritzy suburbs well west of
Boston.  The local cable system in one town I recall had no broadcast TV
station on its own channel, so channel 4 for example could be on cable channel 
22.  This WASN'T because of bleeding between the broadcast antenna and
the cable wiring because this was well west of Cedar St. in Needham.
After February, 2009, could cable operators  transfer over-the-air outlets 
anywhere they want, and put the cable channels that pay them the most money
on channels 2 thru 20?

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From lglavin@mail.com  Thu Jul  5 13:50:06 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:50:06 -0500
Subject: WKFD 1370 Ri (deformatted)
Message-ID: <20070705175006.56C67102EB@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com>

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Scott Fybush" 
>To: madprof@ix.netcom.com
>Subject: Re: WKFD 1370 Ri (deformatted)
>Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:54:11 -0400


Robert F. Sutherland wrote:

> Wondering if anyone has knowledge? Apparently the WKFD call was 
> not otherwise reserved?
> Is ASTRO TELE-COMMUNICATIONS CORP intending Block Island & the 
> rest of coverage is by chance? Do they own any other stations?

>The new 1370 was applied for during the last window for major AM 
>changes and new AM stations. Under current rules, you can't apply 
>for a new daytimer, as the old WKFD was, and any new station has to 
>provide considerably greater protection to other occupants of the 
>channel (primarily, in this case, WFEA, WALK and WNRI, but also 
>WLYN, WDRC, WINY, WNBH, WPLM and WHTB) than the old WKFD's 
>grandfathered signal did.
>s
It's amazing that an operation in Rhode Island and Providence Plantations
would have to worry these days about first-, second-, and even
third-frequency separation over dozens and dozens of miles, while
WAZN-AM 1470 blithely plops itself down in the midst of what was once 
the reasonably decent coverage area of the former WBET-AM 1460 in Brockton!
I know WAZN is uber-directional, but still...


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From adamg@gaffin.com  Thu Jul  5 14:58:00 2007
From: adamg@gaffin.com (Adam Gaffin)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:58:00 -0400
Subject: What City Is This?
In-Reply-To: <20070705165711.14E371CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070705165711.14E371CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <468D3F38.6000004@gaffin.com>

http://www.universalhub.com/node/9428 is the direct URL, in case you 
don't want to scroll. And I will fix your name, sorry!

-- Adam

Laurence Glavin wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Scott Fybush" 
>> To: mike@miscon.net
>> Subject: Re: What City Is This?
>> Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:21:23 -0400
> 
>> mike@miscon.net wrote:
>>
>> All I'm seeing at this time is stylized stars and stripes
>> OK. Who from Salem reads this mailing list? :-)
> 
>> s
> 
> If you scurry on over to:
> 
> htgp://www.universalhub.com
> 
> and scroll down to the item labelled "Generictown", you can view the WTTT
> Home Page as it was until a day or two ago.  My comment on the B.R.I.G.
> is referenced (although my first name is misspelled).  It's  possible that
> it was THIS item that was viewed by WTTT "management"and then the change was made.
> Somebody at Salem Communications/Boston may be serarching for a suitable Boston 
> skyline photo to replace the Flag log after the holiday period...
> or since right-wingers believe they have a patent on patriotism, WTTT may keep
> the flag.  
> S
> I
> D
> E
> B
> A
> R: if you go to universal.hub.com later in the day, the entry entitled
> "Cannon on the Charles"will contain my observation on the relative merits
> (or lack thereof) of Tchaikovky's "1812 Overture"and Beethoven's 
> "Wellington's Victory." 
> 
> 

From scott@fybush.com  Thu Jul  5 15:04:53 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:04:53 -0400
Subject: when analog TV signals end
In-Reply-To: <87E12A79-0113-1000-DF8C-AD454AE8B28E-Webmail-10025@mac.com>
References: <s68cd7c0.085@entbalms2.entercom.com>
	<87E12A79-0113-1000-DF8C-AD454AE8B28E-Webmail-10025@mac.com>
Message-ID: <468D40D5.3050408@fybush.com>

marklaurence@mac.com wrote:

> Wouldn't it be worth it for all the broadcast networks to get
> together and agree on a single channel number for all their
> affiliates?   It would be temporary confusion for sure, but no more
> than when local stations swapped affiliates.  They could promote
> their channel numbers nationally, and even rename themselves like
> "Channel 4" in the UK.  It would give them a big advantage over all
> the cable networks which always find themselves in some forgettable
> position like channel 164.

The idea has come up, and there's a provision in the rules for the use 
of virtual channels 70-99 for just that purpose. I think PBS has picked 
out a channel number up there (80?) for national services, and Tribune 
applied at one point for all of its stations to use 75.

Such a unified numbering scheme would make some sense for new networks 
like CW and Pax/i. At this point, I think there's too much entrenched 
branding on the lower end of the dial to make it work for the older 
networks. ABC, for instance, would certainly want to put all its 
stations on "Channel 7," where its O&Os in NY, Chicago, LA and San 
Francisco are all located. But there's not a chance in creation that Ed 
Ansin would want to risk the viewer confusion that would result from 
WCVB becoming "channel 7" and WHDH becoming something else (probably "4" 
in a national scheme, since that's where KNBC and WNBC are).

And that doesn't even bring up the question of what would happen in an 
affiliation swap. Imagine such a scheme had been in place in 1995, and 
WBZ/NBC had been on the default NBC channel of 4, while WHDH/CBS was on 
the default CBS channel of 2. Would WBZ have become "channel 2" after 
the swap?

The national channel number scheme works better in countries where each 
channel is under common ownership nationwide, like Britain. I could see 
it working (eventually) in Canada, where recent consolidations now mean 
that CTV owns all but a tiny fraction of its affiliates, as do Global 
and CityTV. The CBC has also eliminated all but a few of its 
privately-owned affiliates.

Channel-number branding is all but unknown these days in Canada, anyway, 
since the CRTC mandates that big-city cable systems remap VHF stations 
to channels away from their off-air signals. Cable penetration in many 
big Canadian cities is over 80%, so most Torontonians, for instance, 
don't even know that the CBC is on channel 5 or CTV on channel 9.

There's even some province-wide coordination of cable channel numbering, 
so Global is seen on 3 in most of Ontario. It would make lots of sense 
for them to eventually settle on "3" as a permanent DTV virtual channel 
number. (CKVR, which is over-the-air 3 in Barrie, would need a different 
virtual channel number under that scheme.)

s

From wollman@bimajority.org  Thu Jul  5 15:05:13 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 15:05:13 -0400
Subject: when analog TV signals end
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<<On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:06:35 -0600, "Sid Schweiger" <sid@wrko.com> said:

> As far as I know, the pertinent rule is 47 CFR ?76.57, which states
> in part that cable-channel assignments for must-carry stations in a
> community are up to the station or may be mutually agreed upon by
> both the station and the cable operator

The Cable Act of 1994 had more-specific language:

	Each signal carried in fulfillment of the carriage obligations
	of a cable operator under this section shall be carried on the
	cable system channel number on which the local commercial
	television station is broadcast over the air, or on the
	channel on which it was carried on July 19, 1985, or on the
	channel on which it was carried on January 1, 1992, at the
	election of the station, or on such other channel number as is
	mutually agreed upon by the station and the cable operator.
	(47 USC 5.534)

I suspect the Commission has discretion to modify this standard.

-GAWollman



From scott@fybush.com  Thu Jul  5 15:06:09 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:06:09 -0400
Subject: WKFD 1370 Ri (deformatted)
In-Reply-To: <20070705175006.56C67102EB@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070705175006.56C67102EB@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <468D4121.4090808@fybush.com>

Laurence Glavin wrote:

> It's amazing that an operation in Rhode Island and Providence Plantations
> would have to worry these days about first-, second-, and even
> third-frequency separation over dozens and dozens of miles, while
> WAZN-AM 1470 blithely plops itself down in the midst of what was once 
> the reasonably decent coverage area of the former WBET-AM 1460 in Brockton!
> I know WAZN is uber-directional, but still...

One more thought on this before I head into WXXI and try to invent some
news for afternoon drive -

The AM dial as it now exists is the result of more than 80 years of rule
changes (some wisely thought out, some less so), grandfathering and,
above all, politics.

Some of the best advice I ever got on understanding AM allotments was to
carefully study and memorize the dial as it appeared just before the
NARBA shifts of 1941.

The signals that existed then are the ones that are most useful
today[*]. Everything else has been jury-rigged into an increasingly
crowded dial in the years since, generally requiring complicated DAs and
compromises in terms of full-market coverage.

s

[* - Allowing, of course, for the growth of markets in directions
unforeseen in 1940, as witness DC or Charlotte, where there are no
full-market AMs, and allowing as well for short-sighted owners who've
given up decent signals and sold the land under the towers, as witness
630 in Minneapolis or 570 in DC.]


From kvahey@gmail.com  Thu Jul  5 15:06:51 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 15:06:51 -0400
Subject: when analog TV signals end
In-Reply-To: <87E12A79-0113-1000-DF8C-AD454AE8B28E-Webmail-10025@mac.com>
References: <s68cd7c0.085@entbalms2.entercom.com>
	<87E12A79-0113-1000-DF8C-AD454AE8B28E-Webmail-10025@mac.com>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707051206r32ec799as59ba5c0890118d31@mail.gmail.com>

CBS 2 , NBC 4, ABC 7 would make perfect sense on a national scale

Fox could either use 11 (LA) or 5 (NYC)


I guess what I found curious about the WBZ rebranding is how the
number 4 has completly vanished from the logo.




On 7/5/07, marklaurence@mac.com <marklaurence@mac.com> wrote:

> Wouldn't it be worth it for all the broadcast networks to get together and
> agree on a single channel number for all their affiliates?   It would be
> temporary confusion for sure, but no more than when local stations swapped
> affiliates.  They could promote their channel numbers nationally, and even
> rename themselves like "Channel 4" in the UK.  It would give them a big
> advantage over all the cable networks which always find themselves in some
> forgettable position like channel 164.
>
> Mark
>

From pete@partnercomm.com  Thu Jul  5 15:15:00 2007
From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:15:00 -0400
Subject: when analog TV signals end
In-Reply-To: <87E12A79-0113-1000-DF8C-AD454AE8B28E-Webmail-10025@mac.com>
References: <s68cd7c0.085@entbalms2.entercom.com>
	<87E12A79-0113-1000-DF8C-AD454AE8B28E-Webmail-10025@mac.com>
Message-ID: <468D4334.50302@partnercomm.com>

The point of "Channel 4" in the UK calling itself that is because it was 
a fourth national broadcast service in the UK. "Channel 4" is its 
branding, as "CBS", "ABC", "NBC", or "FOX" is the brand for each of 
innumerable national broadast network services.

It would serve no purpose to give CBS a nationwide "channel 2", as there 
are hundreds of markets that would have to change from the number they 
already know (and for which there is an existing solidly entrenched 
brand image)?

Unlike the UK, the legacy national broadcast networks did not have much 
of a "local" image. "Channel 1" on your telly was tuned to the local 
BBC1 transmitter. There may have been a bit of local programming from 
the regional news bureau, but for the most part, it was not in any way 
identified as an "individual" station - very unlike the US stations, 
which very heavily marketed themselves as affiliated, but stand-alone 
operations.

Unless I have just moved into a new TV market, I will know already what 
channel is what. My TiVo will know even before I do, when I do move! I 
have no idea what cable-only channel is what anymore, because I don't 
need to know. The TiVo does all that for me... For the consumer, it is 
all just about content, right? It is only us geeks that care about the 
particulars of channels (like "How many channel 83's were there EVER?")....

-Peter

--
Peter Murray (N3IXY)
Oak Hill, VA

marklaurence@mac.com wrote:
> Wouldn't it be worth it for all the broadcast networks to get together and agree on a single channel number for all their affiliates?   It would be temporary confusion for sure, but no more than when local stations swapped affiliates.  They could promote their channel numbers nationally, and even rename themselves like "Channel 4" in the UK.  It would give them a big advantage over all the cable networks which always find themselves in some forgettable position like channel 164.
>
> Mark

From scott@fybush.com  Thu Jul  5 14:21:05 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:21:05 -0400
Subject: WKFD 1370 Ri (deformatted)
In-Reply-To: <20070705175006.56C67102EB@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070705175006.56C67102EB@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <468D3691.5040005@fybush.com>

> It's amazing that an operation in Rhode Island and Providence Plantations
> would have to worry these days about first-, second-, and even
> third-frequency separation over dozens and dozens of miles, while
> WAZN-AM 1470 blithely plops itself down in the midst of what was once 
> the reasonably decent coverage area of the former WBET-AM 1460 in Brockton!
> I know WAZN is uber-directional, but still...

The rules on these moves are, if nothing else, well set out in black and 
white and equitably enforced.

In a nutshell: there's a table that sets out what the protected contour 
for each class of station is, for co-channel, first-adjacent, 
second-adjacent and third-adjacent. You can read the whole table here:
http://sujan.hallikainen.org/FCC/FccRules/2006/73/37/

In the case of first-adjacent class B signals, which is what both WXBR 
1460 and WAZN 1470 are, the rule says that the 0.25 mV/m contour of one 
station can't overlap the 0.5 mV/m contour of the other, and vice versa. 
  The combination of lousy ground conductivity between Lexington and 
Brockton and the very directional 1470 pattern more or less takes care 
of that requirement. In the case of WKFD, though, salt water is very 
conductive, and so the signal spreads and spreads and spreads as it 
heads away from Charlestown, creating more interference concerns. The 
FCC will allow interference over water, but they get picky about ANY 
interference over land, only rarely granting waivers when it's 
noncontiguous and outside the station's home market. (An example would 
be WAMG interfering on paper with WCBS on Cape Cod.)

In this specific case (WXBR/WAZN), I suspect there was existing 
grandfathered prohibited overlap between the old Marlborough WSRO signal 
and WBET. In a case like that, the FCC wants to see a reduction in the 
amount of overlap, but will approve an application that doesn't 
completely eliminate the overlap. That might have been what happened here.

As for WKFD, the relevant issues stack up like this:

WNRI 1380 - can't overlap 0.25/0.5 contours. WNRI's 0.5 just comes down 
to Warwick, and it's 0.25 brushes the north end of Aquidneck Island. 
This severely restricts ANY signal to the north from WKFD.

WFEA/WALK 1370 - WKFD's 0.025 mV/m (a vanishingly weak signal) can't 
overlap either of these stations' 0.5, and vice versa. This is a further 
limitation to the north (WFEA) and to the southwest (WALK).

The other nearby AMs are less of an issue. WDRC on 1360 has the same 
protections as WNRI, but it's more distant. WPLM on 1390 and WNBH on 
1340/WHTB on 1400 have even less protection - for second-adjacent 1390, 
the 5 mV/m contours can't overlap, and for third-adjacent 1340/1400, the 
25 mV/m contours can't overlap. Even with the water path between 1340 
and 1370, the powers involved are still small enough that the 25s don't 
come close to overlapping.

That said, the WNRI issue is just a killer for this signal.

(This analysis looks only at daytime protections; at night, a class B 
signal gets only co-channel protection, but here's where protection of 
WFEA becomes a killer. And because you can't apply for a new daytimer, 
you have to have a licensable night signal to apply for anything at all.)

s

From kvahey@gmail.com  Thu Jul  5 15:33:46 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 15:33:46 -0400
Subject: Red Sox radio
Message-ID: <4fc429770707051233g688573b7m628e6f3201d053e7@mail.gmail.com>

lastest issue of Red Sox Magazine sold at Fenway is out and they still
listing WALE Providence as running the games in Spanish in Providence

so is beisbol.net
http://www.beisbol.net/body/transmision.htm

The WRKO affliate list has WKBR located in Nashua

http://wrko.com/pages/343922.php

now last week when I had 1250 on they gave WGAM as the call

and how many affilates do the have in Portland????

WRKO lists all these
WJJB 900 AM
WJJB 95.5 FM
WJAB 1440 AM
WJAE 1440 AM
WLOB 96.3 FM

From Joe@attorneyross.com  Thu Jul  5 16:36:56 2007
From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:36:56 -0500
Subject: when analog TV signals end
In-Reply-To: <468D2BBB.8040804@fybush.com>
References: <4fc429770707051020y4182f83ua7110bf808acee3@mail.gmail.com>,
	<468D2BBB.8040804@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <468D1018.28786.17C88F@Joe.attorneyross.com>

On 5 Jul 2007 Scott Fybush wrote:

> If anything, the analog broadcast channel number is a little MORE
> important now than it may have been a few years ago, since it's not
> only the mapped channel number that the DTV signal uses, but also the
> channel number that Dish and DirecTV use. (This may help to explain
> why WLVI seems to be slowly returning to "CW56" branding after several
> years as "CW Boston" and "Boston's WB" before that.)

Didn't they used to be "WB56"?
 
-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                   617.367.0468
92 State Street                          Fax: 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109              http://www.attorneyross.com



From sid@wrko.com  Thu Jul  5 15:15:48 2007
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:15:48 -0600
Subject: when analog TV signals end
Message-ID: <s68cef14.083@entbalms2.entercom.com>

>>The Cable Act of 1994 had more-specific language:

	Each signal carried in fulfillment of the carriage obligations
	of a cable operator under this section shall be carried on the
	cable system channel number on which the local commercial
	television station is broadcast over the air, or on the
	channel on which it was carried on July 19, 1985, or on the
	channel on which it was carried on January 1, 1992, at the
	election of the station, or on such other channel number as is
	mutually agreed upon by the station and the cable operator.
	(47 USC 5.534)

I suspect the Commission has discretion to modify this standard.<<

Actually, that's almost exactly the wording of the rule I cited.



Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF
WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Boston MA  02135-2040
Phone: 617-779-5369
Fax: 617-779-5379
E-Mail: sid@wrko.com

From lglavin@mail.com  Thu Jul  5 15:10:26 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 14:10:26 -0500
Subject: when analog TV signals end
Message-ID: <20070705191026.BE17816427B@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Scott Fybush" 
>To: marklaurence@mac.com
>Subject: Re: when analog TV signals end
>Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:04:53 -0400


marklaurence@mac.com wrote:

> Wouldn't it be worth it for all the broadcast networks to get
> together and agree on a single channel number for all their
> affiliates? It would be temporary confusion for sure, but no more
> than when local stations swapped affiliates. They could promote
> their channel numbers nationally, and even rename themselves like
> "Channel 4" in the UK. It would give them a big advantage over all
> the cable networks which always find themselves in some forgettable
> position like channel 164.

>Channel-number branding is all but unknown these days in Canada, 
>anyway, since the CRTC mandates that big-city cable systems remap 
>VHF stations to channels away from their off-air signals. Cable 
>penetration in many big Canadian cities is over 80%, so most 
>Torontonians, for instance, don't even know that the CBC is on 
>channel 5 or CTV on channel 9.
>There's even some province-wide coordination of cable channel 
>numbering, so Global is seen on 3 in most of Ontario. It would make 
>lots of sense for them to eventually settle on "3" as a permanent 
>DTV virtual channel number. (CKVR, which is over-the-air 3 in 
>Barrie, would need a different virtual channel number under that 
>scheme.)
>s

I'd be wary of looking to Canada for consistency in standards...
I just observed that Labatt's Blue comes in 11.5-ounce bottles!


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From kvahey@gmail.com  Thu Jul  5 15:11:27 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 15:11:27 -0400
Subject: WBZ/Esplanade
In-Reply-To: <468D2C69.6010402@cssinc.com>
References: <468D0C6C.9050601@friedbagels.com> <468D2C69.6010402@cssinc.com>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707051211i78f855a8u4e6105afac41b9d5@mail.gmail.com>

Well if WCRB ever adds a HD channel it will become moot as they also
broadcast last night

>From what I was told their were audio problems at the Hatch itself
because of the rain



On 7/5/07, Brian Vita <brian_vita@cssinc.com> wrote:
> They probably thought that for the 1% or less of us out there listening
> in HD, it wasn't worth the effort.

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Thu Jul  5 15:47:34 2007
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 15:47:34 -0400
Subject: WKFD 1370 Ri (deformatted)
References: <20070705175006.56C67102EB@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c7bf3d$80659640$19eefea9@satpro4600>

The old WSRO 1470--when it transmitted from Fitchburg St in Marlborough--had
massive daytime overlap of 0.5 mV/m contours with WBET. Given that
situation, what is now WAZN may be permitted a lesser degree of normally
prohibited overlap--as long as it is less than what existed before the move
to Lexington. I'm not sure about that. But I can tell you for sure that WBET
is NOT WAZN's most serious first-adjacent problem to the south. Those honors
go to WSAR. If you look at WAZN's day pattern, you will see that it throws a
minimum directly toward WSAR; the general shape of the pattern protects
WBET, but there is no minimum toward Brockton.

I live only about a mile from the WTTT/WAZN site, and while WBET definitely
was audible here before WAZN moved in, I rather doubt whether WBET's signal
around here was 0.5 mV/m. I'm skeptical about the new setup causing no
overlap between WAZN's 0.25 and WBET's 0.5 but I think that there is less
overlap between WAZN's 0.5 and WBET's 0.5 than there used to be when WAZN
was WSRO and transmitted from Fitchburg St with 5 kW ND days.

--

Dan Strassberg
dan.strassberg@att.net
Fax: 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurence Glavin" <lglavin@mail.com>
To: "Scott Fybush" <scott@fybush.com>; <madprof@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: "B-R-I" <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: WKFD 1370 Ri (deformatted)


> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Scott Fybush"
> >To: madprof@ix.netcom.com
> >Subject: Re: WKFD 1370 Ri (deformatted)
> >Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:54:11 -0400
>
>
> Robert F. Sutherland wrote:
>
> > Wondering if anyone has knowledge? Apparently the WKFD call was
> > not otherwise reserved?
> > Is ASTRO TELE-COMMUNICATIONS CORP intending Block Island & the
> > rest of coverage is by chance? Do they own any other stations?
>
> >The new 1370 was applied for during the last window for major AM
> >changes and new AM stations. Under current rules, you can't apply
> >for a new daytimer, as the old WKFD was, and any new station has to
> >provide considerably greater protection to other occupants of the
> >channel (primarily, in this case, WFEA, WALK and WNRI, but also
> >WLYN, WDRC, WINY, WNBH, WPLM and WHTB) than the old WKFD's
> >grandfathered signal did.
> >s
> It's amazing that an operation in Rhode Island and Providence Plantations
> would have to worry these days about first-, second-, and even
> third-frequency separation over dozens and dozens of miles, while
> WAZN-AM 1470 blithely plops itself down in the midst of what was once
> the reasonably decent coverage area of the former WBET-AM 1460 in
Brockton!
> I know WAZN is uber-directional, but still...
>
>
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From kvahey@gmail.com  Thu Jul  5 16:39:37 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:39:37 -0400
Subject: could WILD go full time?
Message-ID: <4fc429770707051339r23b6d56eu4eb462494ae2ba68@mail.gmail.com>

Has WILD ever attempted to get an unlimited license?

I know they power down for critical hours to protect WBAL but given
what has happened in the past few years could they at least apply?

Obviously it would be at very low power and directional and I wonder
if the transmitter being in Medford made it unrealistic to provide a
decent night signal in Roxbury-Mattapan?

for that matter could WNTN also do the same at 1550?

From scott@fybush.com  Thu Jul  5 17:14:24 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 17:14:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: could WILD go full time?
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707051339r23b6d56eu4eb462494ae2ba68@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4fc429770707051339r23b6d56eu4eb462494ae2ba68@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <35357.66.195.169.98.1183670064.squirrel@webmail5.pair.com>

> Has WILD ever attempted to get an unlimited license?
>
> I know they power down for critical hours to protect WBAL but given
> what has happened in the past few years could they at least apply?
>
> Obviously it would be at very low power and directional and I wonder
> if the transmitter being in Medford made it unrealistic to provide a
> decent night signal in Roxbury-Mattapan?
>
> for that matter could WNTN also do the same at 1550?

Interesting questions, all.

The key factor is that WBAL (and CBE on 1550) are both Class A facilities,
which means their skywave signals are protected to the 0.5 mV/m-50%
contour (or to the nearest international boundary, depending).

I'm guessing that WBAL's relevant night contour encompasses the entire
Boston area, making night service from WILD impossible.

Night service on WNTN might be possible. Co-channel WDZK in Connecticut
has 2400 watts at night. I suspect the challenge with WNTN would be
finding a site that could deliver a nighttime interference-free signal to
most of Newton, though the existence of WZBC would at least make it
possible for WNTN to change COL to a geographically more-compact
community.

s

From kc1ih@mac.com  Thu Jul  5 18:00:28 2007
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:00:28 -0400
Subject: WBZ/Esplanade
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707051211i78f855a8u4e6105afac41b9d5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <468D2C69.6010402@cssinc.com>
	<4fc429770707051211i78f855a8u4e6105afac41b9d5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c7bf4f$ef0b8660$c7151bac@MasterExtra>

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org 
> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]
>  On Behalf Of Kevin Vahey
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 3:11 PM
> To: Brian Vita
> Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org; Aaron Read
> Subject: Re: WBZ/Esplanade
> 
> Well if WCRB ever adds a HD channel it will become moot as 
> they also broadcast last night
> 

Huh?  WCRB already has HD.

Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH


From revdoug1@verizon.net  Thu Jul  5 20:15:20 2007
From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:15:20 -0400
Subject: Maine Broadcasting System
Message-ID: <007f01c7bf62$be1584d0$6501a8c0@pastor2>

Does anyone remember what the third station was that was owned by the
Rines/Thompson family's Maine Broadcasting System (WCSH-TV Portland, WLBZ-TV
Bangor) before the company was sold to Gannett?  I think it was out in
Illinois or Iowa.

-Doug


From jjlehmann@comcast.net  Thu Jul  5 18:50:25 2007
From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:50:25 -0400
Subject: WBZ/Esplanade
In-Reply-To: <000f01c7bf4f$ef0b8660$c7151bac@MasterExtra>
Message-ID: <008401c7bf56$e12e9e90$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1>

> > Well if WCRB ever adds a HD channel it will become moot as
> > they also broadcast last night
> >
> 
> Huh?  WCRB already has HD.

I think he means an HD2 channel. Howevery, WCRB's HD has been off the air
for the past couple months. Hopefully they're fixing the problem that had
the hash spreading from about 98.3 to 100.9 when you were within 5 miles or
so of the tower. It was always much wider than any of the other local
stations running HD.

Jeff Lehmann
Hanson, MA


From billings@suscom-maine.net  Thu Jul  5 20:31:44 2007
From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:31:44 -0400
Subject: Red Sox radio
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707051233g688573b7m628e6f3201d053e7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4fc429770707051233g688573b7m628e6f3201d053e7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <878F9DC48D5942B786F4614D2B826B96@DanBillingsPC>

JJ Jeffery owns all those stations and run the Sox on all of them. 
900/1440/95.5 are simulcast 24/7 as sports talk.  96.3 is talk and is 
actually licensed to Rumford in Western Maine.  It covers a great deal of 
territory not covered by the other stations.  96.3 is usually simulcast with 
1310 in Portland.  I am not sure if that is true during the Sox games.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Vahey" <kvahey@gmail.com>
To: <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 3:33 PM
Subject: Red Sox radio
> and how many affilates do the have in Portland????
>
> WRKO lists all these
> WJJB 900 AM
> WJJB 95.5 FM
> WJAB 1440 AM
> WJAE 1440 AM
> WLOB 96.3 FM
> 


From kvahey@gmail.com  Thu Jul  5 22:23:34 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 22:23:34 -0400
Subject: could WILD go full time?
In-Reply-To: <35357.66.195.169.98.1183670064.squirrel@webmail5.pair.com>
References: <4fc429770707051339r23b6d56eu4eb462494ae2ba68@mail.gmail.com>
	<35357.66.195.169.98.1183670064.squirrel@webmail5.pair.com>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707051923p15a28905w907f8f5328dc916b@mail.gmail.com>

Watertown could become the COL for WNTN. CBE is only 10000w
directional to the east. The mighty Fresh Pond 740 pulled it off with
CBL which always boomed into Boston.

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Thu Jul  5 23:13:03 2007
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 23:13:03 -0400
Subject: could WILD go full time?
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You are missing the point. If WNTN were to operate at night with more than
250W equivalent power, it would become a class B AM and would have to
deliver an NIF (nighttime interference-free) signal (probably something in
the neighborhood of 20 mV/m--but that's just a guess) to 80% of its CoL. The
CoL would, thus, have to be close enough to the transmitter site and compact
enough for the night pattern to cover this area. For Watertown to work, it
would have to be southeast of the transmitter site because protecting CBE
dictates a pattern that has deep minima to the northwest. If the chosen site
were the 1150/1470 site in Lexington, Watertown would be in the right
direction but probably not close enough for the low power WNTN would be
likely to be granted. And the fact that the site is already being used by
two stations, one of them very close in frequency to 1550, would almost
certainly make the use of the site prohibitively expensive. To get FCC
approval, it would also help for the new CoL to be a place without a
full-time audio broadcast station licensed to it. Watertown loses on that
score--it currently has one such, WAZN--and will soon also have WRCA.

OTOH, if WNTN were to run less than 250W equivalent at night, it could
remain a Class D AM (like WJIB) and its night service would not have to
cover any of the CoL, so the station could remain licensed to Newton. If
WNTN were to operate nondirectionally at night, it looks as if the power
would be limited to about 2.5W, except during the hour between local sunset
and Windsor ON sunset, when somewhat higher power (maybe 25W or so) might be
allowed. WNTN owner Rob Rudnick has already determined that 2.5W from the
existing transmitter site on the Newton-Waltham line would cover so few
people that it is not worth the trouble and cost to put it on the air.

--

Dan Strassberg
dan.strassberg@att.net
Fax: 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Vahey" <kvahey@gmail.com>
To: "Scott Fybush" <scott@fybush.com>
Cc: <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: could WILD go full time?


> Watertown could become the COL for WNTN. CBE is only 10000w
> directional to the east. The mighty Fresh Pond 740 pulled it off with
> CBL which always boomed into Boston.




From kvahey@gmail.com  Fri Jul  6 10:34:14 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:34:14 -0400
Subject: WCBS-FM returning to oldies????
Message-ID: <4fc429770707060734m618beaf9nd18fdaa28325a33a@mail.gmail.com>

The NY Post has picked up an item on the NY Radio Message Board that
WCBS-FM will send JACK-FM and revert back to oldies.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07062007/tv/starr_report_tv_michael_starr.htm

From lglavin@mail.com  Fri Jul  6 11:18:15 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:18:15 -0500
Subject: WBZ/Esplanade
Message-ID: <20070706151815.19B50102EE@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com>

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeff Lehmann" 
>To: "'Larry Weil'" , "'Kevin Vahey'" , "'Brian Vita'" 
>Subject: RE: WBZ/Esplanade
>Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:50:25 -0400


> > Well if WCRB ever adds a HD channel it will become moot as
> > they also broadcast last night
> >
>
> Huh? WCRB already has HD.

>I think he means an HD2 channel. Howevery, WCRB's HD has been off the air
>for the past couple months. Hopefully they're fixing the problem that had
>the hash spreading from about 98.3 to 100.9 when you were within 5 miles or
>so of the tower. It was always much wider than any of the other local
>stations running HD.
>Jeff Lehmann
>Hanson, MA

That must be the reason why the pirate at 99.9, "La Voz de Fey"  (not
sure of the spelling) seems to be coming in better...but the AUTHORIZED
99.9 near Haverhill just got a license to cover, but I haven't received
it anywhere.


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From lglavin@mail.com  Fri Jul  6 11:56:22 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:56:22 -0500
Subject: My Rental Has Sirius
Message-ID: <20070706155622.3D99F16427B@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>

Just picked up my rental for a weekend trip to the Berkshiires, (Taconics too)
and upstate NY.  Hey, it comes with Sirius radio.   I checked Sirius' website
for its classical and liberal talk channels, so for a few days I won't be
dependent on the offerings of terrestrial radio (although I'm usually happy
with WFCR (now AM&FM), WMHT and WAMC and its numerous siblings.  Maybe
I won't get out of the car except to eat and drink!

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From kc1ih@mac.com  Fri Jul  6 13:43:43 2007
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 13:43:43 -0400
Subject: My Rental Has Sirius
In-Reply-To: <20070706155622.3D99F16427B@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070706155622.3D99F16427B@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <p06240801c2b42f06b929@[192.168.0.100]>

At 10:56 AM -0500 7/6/07, Laurence Glavin wrote:

>Just picked up my rental for a weekend trip to the Berkshiires, (Taconics too)
>and upstate NY.  Hey, it comes with Sirius radio.   I checked Sirius' website
>for its classical and liberal talk channels, so for a few days I won't be
>dependent on the offerings of terrestrial radio (although I'm usually happy
>with WFCR (now AM&FM), WMHT and WAMC and its numerous siblings.  Maybe
>I won't get out of the car except to eat and drink!

The programming on Sirius Left 146 on the weekends is mostly repeats 
of shows from the weekdays, but is often preempted for sports.  There 
are also two NPR channels, 134 and 135, which carry some programs not 
heard locally.  And CBC Radio 1 is on 137.

-- 
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH

From Joe@attorneyross.com  Fri Jul  6 15:08:32 2007
From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:08:32 -0500
Subject: My Rental Has Sirius
In-Reply-To: <20070706155622.3D99F16427B@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070706155622.3D99F16427B@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <468E4CE0.4921.18D4FE@Joe.attorneyross.com>

On 6 Jul 2007 Laurence Glavin wrote:

> Just picked up my rental for a weekend trip to the Berkshiires,
> (Taconics too) and upstate NY.  Hey, it comes with Sirius radio.   I
> checked Sirius' website for its classical and liberal talk channels,
> so for a few days I won't be dependent on the offerings of terrestrial
> radio (although I'm usually happy with WFCR (now AM&FM), WMHT and WAMC
> and its numerous siblings.  Maybe I won't get out of the car except to
> eat and drink!

Where is WFCR now on AM? 

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                   617.367.0468
92 State Street                          Fax: 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109              http://www.attorneyross.com



From wollman@bimajority.org  Fri Jul  6 14:30:10 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:30:10 -0400
Subject: My Rental Has Sirius
In-Reply-To: <468E4CE0.4921.18D4FE@Joe.attorneyross.com>
References: <20070706155622.3D99F16427B@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>
	<468E4CE0.4921.18D4FE@Joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <18062.35378.976339.69995@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:08:32 -0500, "A. Joseph Ross" <Joe@attorneyross.com> said:

> Where is WFCR now on AM? 

Nowhere.  But Laurence was perhaps thinking of WNNZ, which is being
leased by WFCR to broadcast a second service (formerly heard on WTTT
Amherst).

-GAWollman


From joe@attorneyross.com  Sat Jul  7 01:27:35 2007
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:27:35 -0500
Subject: when analog TV signals end
In-Reply-To: <468D4334.50302@partnercomm.com>
References: <s68cd7c0.085@entbalms2.entercom.com>,
	<87E12A79-0113-1000-DF8C-AD454AE8B28E-Webmail-10025@mac.com>,
	<468D4334.50302@partnercomm.com>
Message-ID: <468EDDF7.11349.80D12C@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 5 Jul 2007 at 15:15, Peter Murray wrote:

> The point of "Channel 4" in the UK calling itself that is because it
> was a fourth national broadcast service in the UK. "Channel 4" is its
> branding, as "CBS", "ABC", "NBC", or "FOX" is the brand for each of
> innumerable national broadast network services.

Indeed, the original names of the BBC radio networks reflected this.  
The BBC's first network was the "Home Service."  Next they came up 
with the "Light Programme," which apparently was somewhat less 
"Auntie Beeb" than the Home Service.  Finally, they established a 
third network and called it the "Third Programme."  At some point, I 
think in the 1960s or 70s, the three netorks became "Radio One," 
"Radio Two", and "Radio Three," and a fourth network, "Radio Four," 
was added.  When I was in London in 1973, I heard program tests for 
Britain's first local radio services.

On shortwave, they once had the "Empire Service," which I think may 
have merged with something else to become the "General Overseas 
Service."  I remember hearing this when I first started listening to 
shortwave radio in the early 1960s.  Then the name was changed and it 
became the "World Service," as it is called now.
 
-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street	                                  Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From wollman@bimajority.org  Sat Jul  7 01:56:00 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 01:56:00 -0400
Subject: when analog TV signals end
In-Reply-To: <468EDDF7.11349.80D12C@joe.attorneyross.com>
References: <s68cd7c0.085@entbalms2.entercom.com>
	<87E12A79-0113-1000-DF8C-AD454AE8B28E-Webmail-10025@mac.com>
	<468D4334.50302@partnercomm.com>
	<468EDDF7.11349.80D12C@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <18063.10992.947876.716235@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:27:35 -0500, "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com> said:

> The BBC's first network was the "Home Service."  Next they came up 
> with the "Light Programme," which apparently was somewhat less 
> "Auntie Beeb" than the Home Service.  Finally, they established a 
> third network and called it the "Third Programme."  At some point, I 
> think in the 1960s or 70s, the three netorks became "Radio One," 
> "Radio Two", and "Radio Three," and a fourth network, "Radio Four," 
> was added.

Almost but not quite.  The "Home Service" is what became Radio Four.
The "Light Programme" became Radio Two, and the "Third Programme" kept
its number.  The new service was "Radio One", which was the Beeb's
first foray into popular music; it was started to compete with the
pirate radio ships, like Radio Caroline, and with Radio Luxembourg
("The World's Largest Commercial Broadcaster... Radio Luxembourg,
14-40 Medium Wave, from Marnach.  The Great 2-0-8!")  Remember that
this was at a time when Britain had no commercial radio ("independent
local radio" was not started until the mid-1970s, and national
commercial stations were not licensed until the BBC abandoned most of
its mediumwave network).

In the late 1980s, the BBC added a fifth national service, called
"Radio Five", now "Five Live", which is primarily devoted to talk and
sport.  (Confusingly, Five Live's principal commercial competition --
operating on former BBCR2 mediumwave transmitters IIRC -- is called
"talkSPORT".)  Today, the BBC operates more than fifty radio services:

- Radio 1 is still the CHR service.
- 1Xtra is a rhythmic/urban digital-only service.
- Radio 2 is still the AC service.
- Radio 3 is still the "serious music" service.

- Radio 4 is still the flagship spoken-word service, but is split into
  two networks:
  - Radio 4 FM is the primary service, with a regular daily schedule
    including programming "strands" like suppertime comedy, and daily
    serialized dramas.
  - Radio 4 LW is the secondary service, which adds test match cricket,
    and two additional shipping forecasts, on 198 kHz longwave.
  Both carry World Service programming overnight.

- Five Live is the national news, telephone talk, and sport service
- Five Live Sports Extra is a national digital-only service with
  additional sports programming.
- BBC 6 Music is a national digital-only service dedicated to new and
  independent music.
- BBC 7 is a national digital-only service with two sometimes
  contradictory programming requirements: six hours a day of
  children's programming, and the remainder of the schedule is filled
  with repeats of BBC spoken-word programs (mostly from Radio 4),
  including comedy and drama, which must be at least two years old or
  must already have been aired twice on another service.

- BBC Asian Network provides specialty programming for Britons of
  South Asian descent and recent immigrants from the subcontinent.
- BBC World Service for Europe broadcasts in English to Central
  Europe on 648 kHz from Orfordness (a town on the North Sea not far
  from London)

- BBC Local Radio is a network of forty services, providing a mix of
  local, regional, and national programming for England and the
  Channel Islands.  These stations relay Five Live overnight.

- BBC Radio Scotland, BBC Radio Wales, and BBC Radio Ulster provide
  English-language programming for the other "national regions".
  Radio nan Gaidheal, Radio Cymru are the Scottish Gaelic and
  Welsh-language services, respectively.

-GAWollman


From rogerkola@aol.com  Sat Jul  7 09:15:08 2007
From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 10:15:08 -0300
Subject: when analog TV signals end
References: <s68cd7c0.085@entbalms2.entercom.com><87E12A79-0113-1000-DF8C-AD454AE8B28E-Webmail-10025@mac.com><468D4334.50302@partnercomm.com><468EDDF7.11349.80D12C@joe.attorneyross.com>
	<18063.10992.947876.716235@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <000801c7c098$d7c62ec0$0200a8c0@Tanguray>

Local BBC Trivia...

Five Live "presenter" Rhod Sharpe actually performed his BBC show live via
DSL from WESX's Naugus Avenue Studios for the past several summers. Rumors
(or rumours if you prefer) were that he was going to try to move his summer
studio into his Marblehead vacation home when the station was sold.

A really nice guy, I actually got an official Super Bowl "Programme" and a
Five Live T-Shirt out of the deal!

Roger
WA1KAT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org>
To: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com>
Cc: <boston-radio-interest@BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 2:56 AM
Subject: Re: when analog TV signals end


> <<On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:27:35 -0500, "A. Joseph Ross"
<joe@attorneyross.com> said:
>
> > The BBC's first network was the "Home Service."  Next they came up
> > with the "Light Programme," which apparently was somewhat less
> > "Auntie Beeb" than the Home Service.  Finally, they established a
> > third network and called it the "Third Programme."  At some point, I
> > think in the 1960s or 70s, the three netorks became "Radio One,"
> > "Radio Two", and "Radio Three," and a fourth network, "Radio Four,"
> > was added.
>
> Almost but not quite.  The "Home Service" is what became Radio Four.
> The "Light Programme" became Radio Two, and the "Third Programme" kept
> its number.  The new service was "Radio One", which was the Beeb's
> first foray into popular music; it was started to compete with the
> pirate radio ships, like Radio Caroline, and with Radio Luxembourg
> ("The World's Largest Commercial Broadcaster... Radio Luxembourg,
> 14-40 Medium Wave, from Marnach.  The Great 2-0-8!")  Remember that
> this was at a time when Britain had no commercial radio ("independent
> local radio" was not started until the mid-1970s, and national
> commercial stations were not licensed until the BBC abandoned most of
> its mediumwave network).
>
> In the late 1980s, the BBC added a fifth national service, called
> "Radio Five", now "Five Live", which is primarily devoted to talk and
> sport.  (Confusingly, Five Live's principal commercial competition --
> operating on former BBCR2 mediumwave transmitters IIRC -- is called
> "talkSPORT".)  Today, the BBC operates more than fifty radio services:
>
> - Radio 1 is still the CHR service.
> - 1Xtra is a rhythmic/urban digital-only service.
> - Radio 2 is still the AC service.
> - Radio 3 is still the "serious music" service.
>
> - Radio 4 is still the flagship spoken-word service, but is split into
>   two networks:
>   - Radio 4 FM is the primary service, with a regular daily schedule
>     including programming "strands" like suppertime comedy, and daily
>     serialized dramas.
>   - Radio 4 LW is the secondary service, which adds test match cricket,
>     and two additional shipping forecasts, on 198 kHz longwave.
>   Both carry World Service programming overnight.
>
> - Five Live is the national news, telephone talk, and sport service
> - Five Live Sports Extra is a national digital-only service with
>   additional sports programming.
> - BBC 6 Music is a national digital-only service dedicated to new and
>   independent music.
> - BBC 7 is a national digital-only service with two sometimes
>   contradictory programming requirements: six hours a day of
>   children's programming, and the remainder of the schedule is filled
>   with repeats of BBC spoken-word programs (mostly from Radio 4),
>   including comedy and drama, which must be at least two years old or
>   must already have been aired twice on another service.
>
> - BBC Asian Network provides specialty programming for Britons of
>   South Asian descent and recent immigrants from the subcontinent.
> - BBC World Service for Europe broadcasts in English to Central
>   Europe on 648 kHz from Orfordness (a town on the North Sea not far
>   from London)
>
> - BBC Local Radio is a network of forty services, providing a mix of
>   local, regional, and national programming for England and the
>   Channel Islands.  These stations relay Five Live overnight.
>
> - BBC Radio Scotland, BBC Radio Wales, and BBC Radio Ulster provide
>   English-language programming for the other "national regions".
>   Radio nan Gaidheal, Radio Cymru are the Scottish Gaelic and
>   Welsh-language services, respectively.
>
> -GAWollman
>
>


From kvahey@gmail.com  Sat Jul  7 10:56:13 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 10:56:13 -0400
Subject: NESN fires Dale Arnold
Message-ID: <4fc429770707070756t1aefd991r76f255448c96183e@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2007/07/07/edwards_gets_all_calls_on_nesn/


Smart move by the Bruins. You fire the one person who would talk hockey on WEEI.

From billings@suscom-maine.net  Sat Jul  7 11:01:55 2007
From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:01:55 -0400
Subject: NESN fires Dale Arnold
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707070756t1aefd991r76f255448c96183e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4fc429770707070756t1aefd991r76f255448c96183e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E437225818804F229D8378DE5118E958@DanBillingsPC>

Dale Arnold is the most famous graduate of the high school that I 
atteneded -- Mt. Ararat School in Topsham, Maine.  Dale was a member of the 
school's first graduating class.

-- Dan Billings
    Bowdoinham, Maine
    Mt. Ararat '86

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Vahey" <kvahey@gmail.com>
To: <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: NESN fires Dale Arnold


> http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2007/07/07/edwards_gets_all_calls_on_nesn/
>
>
> Smart move by the Bruins. You fire the one person who would talk hockey on 
> WEEI.
> 


From francini@mac.com  Sat Jul  7 11:04:11 2007
From: francini@mac.com (John Francini)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:04:11 -0400
Subject: NESN fires Dale Arnold
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707070756t1aefd991r76f255448c96183e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4fc429770707070756t1aefd991r76f255448c96183e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p06240811c2b55b9e6ab1@[192.168.1.52]>

On the other hand, he may have been offered the full-year gig, but 
declined it so that he could stay on WEEI.

He'll land somewhere else -- he's quite good.  I'd like to see him 
doing BC football instead of the execrable John Meterparel.

j


At 10:56 -0400 7/7/07, Kevin Vahey wrote:
>http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2007/07/07/edwards_gets_all_calls_on_nesn/
>
>
>Smart move by the Bruins. You fire the one person who would talk 
>hockey on WEEI.

-- 
John Francini, francini@mac.com

"The journey is more important than the destination -- that's part of life.
If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always disappointed."
                               -- Donald Knuth

From marklaurence@mac.com  Sat Jul  7 11:31:32 2007
From: marklaurence@mac.com (marklaurence@mac.com)
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:31:32 -0700
Subject: NESN fires Dale Arnold
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707070756t1aefd991r76f255448c96183e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4fc429770707070756t1aefd991r76f255448c96183e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00481479-0113-1000-FFBB-1111488E8056-Webmail-10023@mac.com>

 On Saturday, July 07, 2007, at 10:59AM, "Kevin Vahey" <kvahey@gmail.com> wrote:
>http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2007/07/07/edwards_gets_all_calls_on_nesn/
>
>Smart move by the Bruins. You fire the one person who would talk hockey on WEEI.

Although the Bruins are part owners of NESN, I don't believe they were the instigators here.  In fact, the Globe story infers that the Bruins intervened to try to keep a role for Dale Arnold on the telecasts.

Dale gives his side of the story on the HF boards: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=398843

As a lifelong fan, I think it's a terrible decision at a time when the NHL is in terrible shape, in Boston and everywhere else.

Mark

From me@billoneill.us  Sat Jul  7 13:06:27 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:06:27 -0400
Subject: NESN fires Dale Arnold
In-Reply-To: <00481479-0113-1000-FFBB-1111488E8056-Webmail-10023@mac.com>
References: <4fc429770707070756t1aefd991r76f255448c96183e@mail.gmail.com>
	<00481479-0113-1000-FFBB-1111488E8056-Webmail-10023@mac.com>
Message-ID: <468FC813.7050709@billoneill.us>

marklaurence@mac.com wrote:
>  <snip>  a lifelong fan, I think it's a terrible decision at a time when the NHL is in terrible shape, in Boston and everywhere else.
>
> Mark
>
>   

Well put.  Arnold's heartfelt words to reveal not only his personal 
frustration at this point but says it all about bad business decisions 
when he writes:

"I feel that the advantage of having one of two Bruins' announcers also 
serve as a talkshow host on the highest rated sportsradio station in 
America outweighs the perceived advantage of a single play-by-play 
announcer. NESN disagrees."

Spin that, NESN.

Bill O'Neill

From wollman@bimajority.org  Sun Jul  8 00:52:39 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 00:52:39 -0400
Subject: WGBH Western Avenue bridge demolition
Message-ID: <18064.28055.142297.833395@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

Saturday morning, construction crews demolished the bridge over
Western Avenue which had connected the WGBH studios at #125 to the
WGBH administrative offices at #114.  See the new photo gallery at
<http://gallery.bostonradio.org/2007-07/wgbh/>.

-GAWollman


From joe@attorneyross.com  Sun Jul  8 01:31:48 2007
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 00:31:48 -0500
Subject: when analog TV signals end
In-Reply-To: <18063.10992.947876.716235@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <s68cd7c0.085@entbalms2.entercom.com>,
	<468EDDF7.11349.80D12C@joe.attorneyross.com>,
	<18063.10992.947876.716235@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <46903074.19785.3D167D@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 7 Jul 2007 at 1:56, Garrett Wollman wrote:

> Almost but not quite.  The "Home Service" is what became Radio Four.
> The "Light Programme" became Radio Two, and the "Third Programme" kept
> its number.  The new service was "Radio One", which was the Beeb's
> first foray into popular music; it was started to compete with the
> pirate radio ships, like Radio Caroline, and with Radio Luxembourg
> ("The World's Largest Commercial Broadcaster... Radio Luxembourg,
> 14-40 Medium Wave, from Marnach.  The Great 2-0-8!")  Remember that
> this was at a time when Britain had no commercial radio ("independent
> local radio" was not started until the mid-1970s, and national
> commercial stations were not licensed until the BBC abandoned most of
> its mediumwave network).
 
OK, thanks for setting me straight and elaborating on this.  As I 
said, I heard test transmissions for independent local radio in the 
London area when I was over there in May 1973.  I also heard the 
World Service broadcasting to Europe on medium wave.  I had borrowed 
a small AM-only transistor radio from my mother, and it seemed odd to 
be hearing the BBC World Service on it.

-- 
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 92 State Street	                                  Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Mon Jul  9 11:38:48 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:38:48 -0400
Subject: Changing the local cable franchising process...
Message-ID: <012201c7c23f$57578470$6801a8c0@DESKTOP2>

I know we've bounced around the pros/cons of this bill...and some members on 
the list had some strong felings about it.  I thought this recent letter to 
the editor in the Boston Herald covered some imporatnt points about some of 
the issues Verizon is trying to evade with the bill.

http://news.bostonherald.com/letters/view.bg?articleid=1009330&format=text

Wired for arrogance

Your editorial in favor of a bill to change the local cable franchising 
process implies that consumers suffer because telecommunications companies 
have a difficult time breaking into local markets ("House is hanging it up," 
July 2). But nothing prevents companies like Verizon from signing identical 
contracts that existing providers have already negotiated with cities and 
towns. Verizon does not want to adhere to consumer protections, like 
anti-redlining provisions that require the provider to offer service to 
everyone in town no matter their income demographic. This bill is the 
epitome of special interest legislation and should be rejected by the 
Legislature. 


From aerie.ma@comcast.net  Mon Jul  9 15:03:10 2007
From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:03:10 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
Message-ID: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>

The Boston Herald is reporting as "breaking news" on their home page that
Howie Carr is moving to the morning show on WTKK.


From kvahey@gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 15:13:00 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:13:00 -0400
Subject: WCBS-FM back to oldies Thursday at 1:01 PM
Message-ID: <4fc429770707091213r7e94a2a4u7d19dd764d4ec93c@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.cbsradio.com/press_center/releases/pressrelease131116-07-09-2007.html


This may go down as the most boneheaded move in radio history. CBS
blows up 2 profitable stations in NYC and Chicago and JACK flops in
both markets. How many millions did this cost CBS?

I never understood why ABC now Citadel didn't flip WPLJ to Scott
Shannons "True Oldies" format like they did in Chicago.

From kvahey@gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 15:17:31 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:17:31 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707091217t6daf3ea9l2dcea0dcb8df78a1@mail.gmail.com>

Howie has been steaming since they hired Tom Finneran. Jason Wolfe has
done a good job destroying that station.


Well Buddy Cianci is available......

On 7/9/07, Jim Hall <aerie.ma@comcast.net> wrote:
> The Boston Herald is reporting as "breaking news" on their home page that
> Howie Carr is moving to the morning show on WTKK.
>
>

From scott@fybush.com  Mon Jul  9 15:19:22 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:19:22 -0400
Subject: WCBS-FM back to oldies Thursday at 1:01 PM
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707091213r7e94a2a4u7d19dd764d4ec93c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4fc429770707091213r7e94a2a4u7d19dd764d4ec93c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46928A3A.2080108@fybush.com>

Kevin Vahey wrote:

> This may go down as the most boneheaded move in radio history. CBS
> blows up 2 profitable stations in NYC and Chicago and JACK flops in
> both markets. How many millions did this cost CBS?
> 
> I never understood why ABC now Citadel didn't flip WPLJ to Scott
> Shannons "True Oldies" format like they did in Chicago.

Simple: while WPLJ's 12+ ratings look anemic, it's a revenue monster, 
taking in more in a bad month than CBS-FM ever did in a good one.

WZZN in Chicago, by contrast, barely nudged the revenue meter.

s



From me@billoneill.us  Mon Jul  9 15:30:16 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:30:16 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707091217t6daf3ea9l2dcea0dcb8df78a1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>
	<4fc429770707091217t6daf3ea9l2dcea0dcb8df78a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46928CC8.9000604@billoneill.us>

Kevin Vahey wrote:
> Howie has been steaming since they hired Tom Finneran. Jason Wolfe has
> done a good job destroying that station.

I guess that was a short-lived reprieve on WVMT (620 Burlington) where 
he was put back on 4-7p lv.  Good move by the FMer, though, IMO.  Good 
AM drive gab potential.

Bill O'Neill

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Mon Jul  9 15:33:45 2007
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:33:45 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>
Message-ID: <003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg>

I think that's called a twofer; WTKK solves its AM-drive problem AND
mortally wounds its competition. If Entercom can do no better in PM drive
than the incredibly lame 6:00AM to noon duo of Finneran and Feinburg (both
separately and in combination, I find them virtually unlistenable), WRKO had
better look for some dirt-cheap syndicated programming that will be
consistent with minuscule ratings and the give-away spots that such ratings
beget. Next stop, brokered time a la WWZN? Hey, if it can pay the bills at
the top of the dial, it might work on the other side--although with
Feinburg's history in brokered time, he'd probably be first in line at the
GM's office with his personal check in his outstretched hand.

Anybody remember when Pat Whitley was leasing the entire boradcast day of
what was then WGTR (now WBIX) from John Garabedian? The calls were WTTP. I
believe Whitely started the Restaurant Show on WTTP (or at least first
started brokering it throughout southeastern New England while he was
running WTTP). Whitley must now be about 70. Think he'd go for brokering the
entire schedule except for Red Sox broadcasts? Maybe the Red Sox would jump
at brokering WRKO's full schedule.

--
Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net
eFax 707-215-6367

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hall" <aerie.ma@comcast.net>
To: <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:03 PM
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK


> The Boston Herald is reporting as "breaking news" on their home page that
> Howie Carr is moving to the morning show on WTKK.
>






From me@billoneill.us  Mon Jul  9 15:34:06 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:34:06 -0400
Subject: Imus buzz
Message-ID: <46928DAE.4060805@billoneill.us>

What's the deal with Imus' rumored January return (Drudge, etc.)?  Or is 
this purely posturing vis-a-vis his suit against Viacom?

Bill O'Neill

From me@billoneill.us  Mon Jul  9 15:43:33 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:43:33 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>
	<003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
Message-ID: <46928FE5.4010402@billoneill.us>

Dan Strassberg wrote:
> Maybe the Red Sox would jump
> at brokering WRKO's full schedule.
>   

Ouch. I sure hope that things are not as bleak as that over at ARCO.  
Imus in the Morning affiliate perhaps? 

(I just experienced a topic-merge.  Fun, yet legal.)

Bill O'Neill

From kvahey@gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 16:17:55 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 16:17:55 -0400
Subject: Dan Patrick leaves ESPN Radio
Message-ID: <4fc429770707091317r17e00dffq3bf9c0e3ef807520@mail.gmail.com>

This is going to be an impossible hole for ESPN Radio to cover

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2930637

From kvahey@gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 16:35:31 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 16:35:31 -0400
Subject: WCBS-FM back to oldies Thursday at 1:01 PM
In-Reply-To: <46928A3A.2080108@fybush.com>
References: <4fc429770707091213r7e94a2a4u7d19dd764d4ec93c@mail.gmail.com>
	<46928A3A.2080108@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707091335l779e4c66v7ee60c6c6001c1f4@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/9/07, Scott Fybush <scott@fybush.com> wrote:
> WZZN in Chicago, by contrast, barely nudged the revenue meter.


WZZN has done well with a decent morning show and Chicago legends John
Landecker and Dick Biondi coming aboard with fred Winston soon to come
so WJMK probably can not go back at this point.

Maybe they go the route of the new KFRC in San Francisco

From billings@suscom-maine.net  Mon Jul  9 19:40:58 2007
From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:40:58 -0400
Subject: Dan Patrick leaves ESPN Radio
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707091317r17e00dffq3bf9c0e3ef807520@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4fc429770707091317r17e00dffq3bf9c0e3ef807520@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <16E01BE2FA8446E085C81B068AF2D5C5@DanBillingsPC>

I heard one media writer speculate that he could end up doing mornings at 
WFAN.

I have also heard him mentioned as a replacement for Bob Barker at the Price 
is Right.


From billings@suscom-maine.net  Mon Jul  9 19:42:40 2007
From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:42:40 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <46928FE5.4010402@billoneill.us>
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward><003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
	<46928FE5.4010402@billoneill.us>
Message-ID: <40B5C55336564C40904E5A2EC020B8AC@DanBillingsPC>

This will create a big afternoon drive hole at WGAN Portland.  They have 
carried Howie's show for a very long time and it has been a solid performer 
for them.


From rogerkirk@ttlc.net  Mon Jul  9 19:55:39 2007
From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:55:39 -0400
Subject: Dan Patrick leaves ESPN Radio
In-Reply-To: <16E01BE2FA8446E085C81B068AF2D5C5@DanBillingsPC>
References: <4fc429770707091317r17e00dffq3bf9c0e3ef807520@mail.gmail.com>
	<16E01BE2FA8446E085C81B068AF2D5C5@DanBillingsPC>
Message-ID: <4692CAFB.9090606@ttlc.net>

Dan Billings wrote:
> I have also heard him mentioned as a replacement for Bob Barker at the 
> Price is Right.
>
Much better choice than Rosie O'Donnell.


From markwats@comcast.net  Mon Jul  9 20:16:48 2007
From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 20:16:48 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>
Message-ID: <006101c7c287$9c165030$a6d38018@Mark>

Jim Hall wrote:


> The Boston Herald is reporting as "breaking news" on their home page that 
> Howie Carr is moving to the morning show on WTKK.

  According to an AP story on the Boston Globe's website, Howie starts 
October 1st at WTKK, but Entercom may fight the move.

Link to said AP story:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2007/07/09/talk_show_host_howie_carr_prepares_to_move_to_wtkk/

Mark Watson









From revdoug1@verizon.net  Mon Jul  9 21:29:20 2007
From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:29:20 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward><003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
	<46928FE5.4010402@billoneill.us>
	<40B5C55336564C40904E5A2EC020B8AC@DanBillingsPC>
Message-ID: <018001c7c291$bded7210$6501a8c0@pastor2>

Same with WVOM Bangor . . .  not to mention WCRN Worcester, which only
fairly recently began carrying his show.
-Doug

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Billings" <billings@suscom-maine.net>
To: "Bill O'Neill" <me@billoneill.us>; "Dan Strassberg"
<dan.strassberg@att.net>
Cc: <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Howie Carr to WTKK


> This will create a big afternoon drive hole at WGAN Portland.  They have
> carried Howie's show for a very long time and it has been a solid
performer
> for them.
>


From kc1ih@mac.com  Mon Jul  9 20:33:25 2007
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:33:25 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <006101c7c287$9c165030$a6d38018@Mark>
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>
	<006101c7c287$9c165030$a6d38018@Mark>
Message-ID: <200707100033.l6A0XVHk024128@mac.com>

At 08:16 PM 7/9/2007, Mark Watson wrote:
>Jim Hall wrote:
>
>  According to an AP story on the Boston Globe's website, Howie 
> starts October 1st at WTKK, but Entercom may fight the move.
>
>Link to said AP story:
>http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2007/07/09/talk_show_host_howie_carr_prepares_to_move_to_wtkk/

And with typical AP accuracy, they got the callsign wrong two out of 
three times.


Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH 


From revdoug1@verizon.net  Mon Jul  9 21:37:32 2007
From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:37:32 -0400
Subject: A bit more about Howie
Message-ID: <018a01c7c292$e2fbe040$6501a8c0@pastor2>

If this deal with WTKK is actually pulled off (the Herald reports this
evening that Entercom is saying "Not so fast!"), it seems to me that both
Howie and WTKK would be smart to try to assimilate a regional network
similar to what he's had with 'RKO.  I think some New England stations
outside Boston might jump at the chance to have Howie doing their morning
drive time, especially those that don't have what Dan has described as "a
solid performer" in that time slot.

-Doug


From tmw207@netzero.com  Mon Jul  9 20:01:30 2007
From: tmw207@netzero.com (Terry Wood)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 20:01:30 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward><003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg><46928FE5.4010402@billoneill.us>
	<40B5C55336564C40904E5A2EC020B8AC@DanBillingsPC>
Message-ID: <000601c7c285$8043bbb0$ca3c9441@WoodFamilyComputer>

Don't you think his real reason is that he is continually being interrupted 
by the BoSox?  He has done nothing but complain about the sox interrupting 
his show since RKO signed them this spring.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Billings" <billings@suscom-maine.net>
To: "Bill O'Neill" <me@billoneill.us>; "Dan Strassberg" 
<dan.strassberg@att.net>
Cc: <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Howie Carr to WTKK


> This will create a big afternoon drive hole at WGAN Portland.  They have 
> carried Howie's show for a very long time and it has been a solid 
> performer for them.
>
>
>
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From billings@suscom-maine.net  Mon Jul  9 20:51:52 2007
From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 20:51:52 -0400
Subject: A bit more about Howie
In-Reply-To: <018a01c7c292$e2fbe040$6501a8c0@pastor2>
References: <018a01c7c292$e2fbe040$6501a8c0@pastor2>
Message-ID: <2E6F34F1D1A8444F8ACD5B6B6C1EBF80@DanBillingsPC>

In Portland, Saga might take him to replace Imus, though they have added Bob 
& Tom to fill that spot recently.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Drown" <revdoug1@verizon.net>
To: "Boston Radio Interest Board" 
<boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:37 PM
Subject: A bit more about Howie


> If this deal with WTKK is actually pulled off (the Herald reports this
> evening that Entercom is saying "Not so fast!"), it seems to me that both
> Howie and WTKK would be smart to try to assimilate a regional network
> similar to what he's had with 'RKO.  I think some New England stations
> outside Boston might jump at the chance to have Howie doing their morning
> drive time, especially those that don't have what Dan has described as "a
> solid performer" in that time slot.
>
> -Doug
>
> 


From kvahey@gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 21:26:26 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 21:26:26 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <000601c7c285$8043bbb0$ca3c9441@WoodFamilyComputer>
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>
	<003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
	<46928FE5.4010402@billoneill.us>
	<40B5C55336564C40904E5A2EC020B8AC@DanBillingsPC>
	<000601c7c285$8043bbb0$ca3c9441@WoodFamilyComputer>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707091826r2ddf0e94hcc3963b616dd21be@mail.gmail.com>

The entire concept of the Sox on WRKO was flawed from day 1. The Sox
wanted a better night signal which is why they danced with WBOS but
WCRN joining the Sox network solved much of the problems WEEI has at
night with that 850 in upstate NY. Then you have Wednesday games on
EEI which makes no sense. Well if I am Jason Wolfe I am on a plane to
Alaska and beg Gene Burns to come back.

From kc1ih@mac.com  Mon Jul  9 22:05:09 2007
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:05:09 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707091826r2ddf0e94hcc3963b616dd21be@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>
	<003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
	<46928FE5.4010402@billoneill.us>
	<40B5C55336564C40904E5A2EC020B8AC@DanBillingsPC>
	<000601c7c285$8043bbb0$ca3c9441@WoodFamilyComputer>
	<4fc429770707091826r2ddf0e94hcc3963b616dd21be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200707100205.l6A25DjV012641@mac.com>

At 09:26 PM 7/9/2007, Kevin Vahey wrote:


>Well if I am Jason Wolfe I am on a plane to
>Alaska and beg Gene Burns to come back.


Alaska?  AFAIK, Burns is on KGO in San Francisco.


Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH 


From kvahey@gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 22:20:38 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:20:38 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <200707100205.l6A25DjV012641@mac.com>
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>
	<003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
	<46928FE5.4010402@billoneill.us>
	<40B5C55336564C40904E5A2EC020B8AC@DanBillingsPC>
	<000601c7c285$8043bbb0$ca3c9441@WoodFamilyComputer>
	<4fc429770707091826r2ddf0e94hcc3963b616dd21be@mail.gmail.com>
	<200707100205.l6A25DjV012641@mac.com>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707091920g56756a03i389d111fa4dfefa3@mail.gmail.com>

Burns lives in Alaska and remotes to KGO

On 7/9/07, Larry Weil <kc1ih@mac.com> wrote:
> At 09:26 PM 7/9/2007, Kevin Vahey wrote:
>
>
> >Well if I am Jason Wolfe I am on a plane to
> >Alaska and beg Gene Burns to come back.
>
>
> Alaska?  AFAIK, Burns is on KGO in San Francisco.
>
>
> Larry Weil
> Lake Wobegone, NH
>
>

From gary@garysicecream.com  Mon Jul  9 22:38:47 2007
From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:38:47 -0400
Subject: Gene Burns LIVES in San Fran
Message-ID: <070601c7c29b$71388f40$0200a8c0@Office>

In the Richmond neighborhood - NOT in Alaska!


From joe@attorneyross.com  Tue Jul 10 00:34:20 2007
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:34:20 -0500
Subject: Dan Patrick leaves ESPN Radio
In-Reply-To: <4692CAFB.9090606@ttlc.net>
References: <4fc429770707091317r17e00dffq3bf9c0e3ef807520@mail.gmail.com>,
	<16E01BE2FA8446E085C81B068AF2D5C5@DanBillingsPC>,
	<4692CAFB.9090606@ttlc.net>
Message-ID: <4692C5FC.26802.96816B@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 9 Jul 2007 at 19:55, Roger Kirk wrote:

> Dan Billings wrote:
> > I have also heard him mentioned as a replacement for Bob Barker at
> > the Price is Right.
> >
> Much better choice than Rosie O'Donnell.

It occurs to me -- Why are there so few women hosting quiz or game 
shows?  The British woman on "The Weakest Link" is the only one that 
comes to mind.  Have there ever been any others?  

-- 
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 92 State Street	                                  Fax 617.507.7856
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From billings@suscom-maine.net  Mon Jul  9 23:54:23 2007
From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 23:54:23 -0400
Subject: Dan Patrick leaves ESPN Radio
In-Reply-To: <4692C5FC.26802.96816B@joe.attorneyross.com>
References: <4fc429770707091317r17e00dffq3bf9c0e3ef807520@mail.gmail.com>,
	<16E01BE2FA8446E085C81B068AF2D5C5@DanBillingsPC>,
	<4692CAFB.9090606@ttlc.net>
	<4692C5FC.26802.96816B@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <3F07E6EA0244456499F2ACA7A2CD8194@DanBillingsPC>

Meridith Viera host the daytime version of Who Wants to be a Millionaire.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com>
To: "Dan Billings" <billings@suscom-maine.net>; "Roger Kirk" 
<rogerkirk@ttlc.net>
Cc: <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>; "Kevin Vahey" 
<kvahey@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: Dan Patrick leaves ESPN Radio


> It occurs to me -- Why are there so few women hosting quiz or game
> shows?  The British woman on "The Weakest Link" is the only one that
> comes to mind.  Have there ever been any others?


From raccoonradio@mail.com  Tue Jul 10 03:24:36 2007
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:24:36 -0500
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
Message-ID: <20070710072436.A996B83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com>

The Herald has a few articles in today's paper about all this. 

If WRKO can't find a local host to replace Carr they could pick up
Hannity (ABC would prefer to have him on a stronger station) or
another syndie host. 

Entercom insists they still have Carr under contract and plan
to keep him but their chances of doing so are slim. Apparently
Entercom could have given him a one-year renewal in March but did not
do so...one Herald article quotes sources as saying that
upon hearing of Howie's exit, Jason Wolfe "smashed a glass award sitting on his office desk".

Without Howie, WRKO might consider other options, including just moving the sports stuff from 850 to 680 and turn 850 into
any format that isn't being covered now (perhaps even libtalk).

Herald says Howie got very good ratings in key demos and literally millions of ad dollars
could now be migrating to Greater Media...


From sean.smyth@yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 03:38:45 2007
From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <20070710072436.A996B83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <765004.77110.qm@web58310.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Bob Nelson <raccoonradio@mail.com> wrote:
> Herald says Howie got very good ratings in key demos and literally
> millions of ad dollars
> could now be migrating to Greater Media...

Of course they're going to say that ... the Herald has a vested
interest! 

Given the way the Herald has pimped this, it sounds like Pat Purcell
may have had a hand in it. WEEI seems to be a big advertiser in the
Herald's sports section, and pissing off Entercom isn't a good deal --
given the health of newspapers nowadays, losing any decent-sized
advertiser is a noteworthy hit.


       
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From kc1ih@mac.com  Tue Jul 10 10:40:23 2007
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:40:23 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707091920g56756a03i389d111fa4dfefa3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>
	<003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
	<46928FE5.4010402@billoneill.us>
	<40B5C55336564C40904E5A2EC020B8AC@DanBillingsPC>
	<000601c7c285$8043bbb0$ca3c9441@WoodFamilyComputer>
	<4fc429770707091826r2ddf0e94hcc3963b616dd21be@mail.gmail.com>
	<200707100205.l6A25DjV012641@mac.com>
	<4fc429770707091920g56756a03i389d111fa4dfefa3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p06240800c2b94a5f6d75@[192.168.0.100]>

At 10:20 PM -0400 7/9/07, Kevin Vahey wrote:

>Burns lives in Alaska and remotes to KGO

Interesting!  So I guess they send him bottles of all those Napa 
Valley wines he reviews on Saturday's show.

-- 
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Tue Jul 10 10:55:44 2007
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:55:44 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward><003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg><46928FE5.4010402@billoneill.us><40B5C55336564C40904E5A2EC020B8AC@DanBillingsPC><000601c7c285$8043bbb0$ca3c9441@WoodFamilyComputer><4fc429770707091826r2ddf0e94hcc3963b616dd21be@mail.gmail.com><200707100205.l6A25DjV012641@mac.com><4fc429770707091920g56756a03i389d111fa4dfefa3@mail.gmail.com>
	<p06240800c2b94a5f6d75@[192.168.0.100]>
Message-ID: <001101c7c302$687b2400$19eefea9@dstrassberg>

But Gary Francis, who used to produce Burns's show in Boston and remains a
personal friend of Gene's, posted yesterday that whoever posted that Gene
had moved to Alaska was wrong. Gary's post even named the San Francisco
neighborhood in which Gene lives. So it appears that, although the news that
Burns has moved to Alaska may be interesting, it is also incorrect.

--
Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net
eFax 707-215-6367

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Weil" <kc1ih@mac.com>
To: <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Howie Carr to WTKK


> At 10:20 PM -0400 7/9/07, Kevin Vahey wrote:
>
> >Burns lives in Alaska and remotes to KGO
>
> Interesting!  So I guess they send him bottles of all those Napa
> Valley wines he reviews on Saturday's show.
>
> --
> Larry Weil
> Lake Wobegone, NH




From kvahey@gmail.com  Tue Jul 10 11:09:26 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:09:26 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <001101c7c302$687b2400$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>
	<003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
	<46928FE5.4010402@billoneill.us>
	<40B5C55336564C40904E5A2EC020B8AC@DanBillingsPC>
	<000601c7c285$8043bbb0$ca3c9441@WoodFamilyComputer>
	<4fc429770707091826r2ddf0e94hcc3963b616dd21be@mail.gmail.com>
	<200707100205.l6A25DjV012641@mac.com>
	<4fc429770707091920g56756a03i389d111fa4dfefa3@mail.gmail.com>
	<p06240800c2b94a5f6d75@192.168.0.100>
	<001101c7c302$687b2400$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707100809t1f4ac812me047f6fcee8d76bf@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know how I got that so wrong....I swore I read that in the SF Chronicle.

Burns I *think* did a local show from the Bay Area on 1060 maybe 10
years ago when they tried to bring back WMEX

On 7/10/07, Dan Strassberg <dan.strassberg@att.net> wrote:
> But Gary Francis, who used to produce Burns's show in Boston and remains a
> personal friend of Gene's, posted yesterday that whoever posted that Gene
> had moved to Alaska was wrong. Gary's post even named the San Francisco
> neighborhood in which Gene lives. So it appears that, although the news that
> Burns has moved to Alaska may be interesting, it is also incorrect.

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Tue Jul 10 12:14:36 2007
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:14:36 -0500
Subject: Carr files suit against WRKO
Message-ID: <20070710161436.6C06083985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=1010440

Breaking story has details about a lawsuit Howie Carr has filed against
WRKO, "accusing them of illegally trying to block his new deal with rival WTKK-FM."

Expect Carr to be off WRKO for awhile as this plays out (WRKO site
says Avi Nelson is filling in. I'm guessing this topic will not
be discussed on air, under mgmt orders...)


From me@billoneill.us  Tue Jul 10 12:26:56 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:26:56 -0400
Subject: Carr files suit against WRKO
In-Reply-To: <20070710161436.6C06083985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070710161436.6C06083985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <4693B350.1020105@billoneill.us>

Bob Nelson wrote:
> Expect Carr to be off WRKO for awhile as this plays out (WRKO site
> says Avi Nelson is filling in. 

This could get interesting.  Makes one wonder - what if WRKO minimized 
legal expenses that would be associated with this action and funded, 
say, a _news division?_ (What was I thinking?)

Bill O'Neill

From nostaticatall@charter.net  Tue Jul 10 13:27:20 2007
From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:27:20 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707100809t1f4ac812me047f6fcee8d76bf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>
	<003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
	<46928FE5.4010402@billoneill.us>
	<40B5C55336564C40904E5A2EC020B8AC@DanBillingsPC>
	<000601c7c285$8043bbb0$ca3c9441@WoodFamilyComputer>
	<4fc429770707091826r2ddf0e94hcc3963b616dd21be@mail.gmail.com>
	<200707100205.l6A25DjV012641@mac.com>
	<4fc429770707091920g56756a03i389d111fa4dfefa3@mail.gmail.com>
	<p06240800c2b94a5f6d75@192.168.0.100>
	<001101c7c302$687b2400$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
	<4fc429770707100809t1f4ac812me047f6fcee8d76bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9b967a1959d1a522a36c8aa770b8b7c8@charter.net>

Yeah, and it was gosh-awful.  The man literally didn't have an opinion 
about anything.  It was take a call, listen to what the caller said, 
thank them for calling in, ask "what do you think," pimp the phone 
number again, and repeat.  Over and over and over again.  Not 
compelling radio in the least.   Maybe that style of works at KGO, 
which tends to be a rather centrist radio station in comparison to most 
conservatalkers.  I suppose it could be effective on Sullivan's old 
shift on WBZ, but not on WRKO.  With that station skewing far right, 
they need a larger than life personality that has an opinion and isn't 
afraid to give it.  Gene Burns isn't that guy.

-Dave Tomm
"Mike Thomas"


On Jul 10, 2007, at 11:09 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote:

> I don't know how I got that so wrong....I swore I read that in the SF 
> Chronicle.
>
> Burns I *think* did a local show from the Bay Area on 1060 maybe 10
> years ago when they tried to bring back WMEX
>


From gary@garysicecream.com  Tue Jul 10 14:20:36 2007
From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:20:36 -0400
Subject: Gene Burns
Message-ID: <07f501c7c31f$03294fb0$0200a8c0@Office>

Just had a half hour conversation with Gene Burns who has confirmed that he
does not have a home or even an igloo in Alaska. Although he has taken a
cruise up there a few times.

-Gary Francis


From me@billoneill.us  Tue Jul 10 14:29:39 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:29:39 -0400
Subject: Gene Burns
In-Reply-To: <07f501c7c31f$03294fb0$0200a8c0@Office>
References: <07f501c7c31f$03294fb0$0200a8c0@Office>
Message-ID: <4693D013.5000202@billoneill.us>


> Just had a half hour conversation with Gene Burns who has confirmed that he
> does not have a home or even an igloo in Alaska. Although he has taken a
> cruise up there a few times.
>
> -Gary Francis
>   

Burns was a good listen back in the Burns/Williams era at WRKO. Seems 
like eons ago.

So, cough it up Gary. Is he interested?!  Also, does he still 'transit 
the meridian' into the 'afternoon incarnation' of his program or does he 
just leave that up to automation at this point?

Bill O'Neill




From lglavin@mail.com  Tue Jul 10 13:49:22 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:49:22 -0500
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
Message-ID: <20070710174922.7981C1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com>

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sean Smyth" 
>To: "Bob Nelson" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org
>Subject: Re: Howie Carr to WTKK
>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
>Bob Nelson wrote:
> Herald says Howie got very good ratings in key demos and literally
> millions of ad dollars
> could now be migrating to Greater Media...
>Of course they're going to say that ... the Herald has a vested
>interest!

>Given the way the Herald has pimped this, it sounds like Pat Purcell
>may have had a hand in it. WEEI seems to be a big advertiser in the
>Herald's sports section, and pissing off Entercom isn't a good deal --
>given the health of newspapers nowadays, losing any decent-sized
>advertiser is a noteworthy hit.

Don't forget...the Herald still has the valuable WBIX account!


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From lglavin@mail.com  Tue Jul 10 13:59:16 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:59:16 -0500
Subject: When WKOX-AM Goes To 50 KW...
Message-ID: <20070710175917.1C8651CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>

One thing that's been overlooked in all the brew-ha ha (what you get if you mix
hops, malt, yeast, water and laughing gas) over the Howie Carr-to-WTKK effect on
WRKO's fortunes is the fact that construction is moving apace at the new
Sawmill Brook Parkway site for WKOX-AM 1200.  One thing that's guaranteed
(I'd stake my reputation on it; I have nothing to lose) is that CCU will
flip the frequency to something other than Radio Rumba, possibly the kind of
talk on other stations the Company owns: Rush, Glenn Beck, maybe even Michael
Weiner.  That would leave even other holes in the 'RKO lineup.  Would they
counter with cherry-picked lib talk?  Stephanie Miller?  Thom HartmannThom Hartmann?
Ed Schultz?  It will be a v-e-r-y  i-n-t-e-r-e-s-t-i-n-g fall season!


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From dan.strassberg@att.net  Tue Jul 10 15:37:03 2007
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:37:03 -0400
Subject: When WKOX-AM Goes To 50 KW...
References: <20070710175917.1C8651CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <006d01c7c329$b66caf40$19eefea9@dstrassberg>

WKOX's 50 kW signal will be underwhelming--not even the equal of WWZN's.
Wait and see. WWZN is on a higher frequency BUT has half-wave towers. WKOX's
200' towers will not even be quite 1/4 wavelength (close, though). The
result is that WWZN will be operating at an effective power almost double
WKOX's. The efficiency difference pretty well cancels out the frequency
difference. WWZN's (non-CH) day pattern is more favorable to the west than
WKOX's, meaning that WWZN, which is a few miles further from Framingham than
WKOX will be, will deliver a roughly equal daytime signal to WKOX's former
CoL. At night, WWZN has (on paper) a much quieter channel. That's true if
you don't count first adjacents. WKOX's 50% NIF is, IIRC, 13.55 mV/m. WWZN's
is well under 5.0. BUT WWZN has both WTWP and WWKB to contend with--both
directional toward Boston; WKOX has WPHT (ND). So the first-adjacent
advantage goes to WKOX.

So will CCU move its network fare to a a signal that is clearly inferior to
WRKO's. Possible I guess. Smart move? Probably not.

--
Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net
eFax 707-215-6367

----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurence Glavin" <lglavin@mail.com>
To: <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: When WKOX-AM Goes To 50 KW...


> One thing that's been overlooked in all the brew-ha ha (what you get if
you mix
> hops, malt, yeast, water and laughing gas) over the Howie Carr-to-WTKK
effect on
> WRKO's fortunes is the fact that construction is moving apace at the new
> Sawmill Brook Parkway site for WKOX-AM 1200.  One thing that's guaranteed
> (I'd stake my reputation on it; I have nothing to lose) is that CCU will
> flip the frequency to something other than Radio Rumba, possibly the kind
of
> talk on other stations the Company owns: Rush, Glenn Beck, maybe even
Michael
> Weiner.  That would leave even other holes in the 'RKO lineup.  Would they
> counter with cherry-picked lib talk?  Stephanie Miller?  Thom HartmannThom
Hartmann?
> Ed Schultz?  It will be a v-e-r-y  i-n-t-e-r-e-s-t-i-n-g fall season!
>
>
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From wollman@bimajority.org  Tue Jul 10 15:39:36 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:39:36 -0400
Subject: When WKOX-AM Goes To 50 KW...
In-Reply-To: <20070710175917.1C8651CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070710175917.1C8651CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <18067.57464.810254.744942@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:59:16 -0500, "Laurence Glavin" <lglavin@mail.com> said:

> One thing that's guaranteed (I'd stake my reputation on it; I have
> nothing to lose) is that CCU will flip the frequency to something
> other than Radio Rumba, possibly the kind of talk on other stations

I wouldn't bet on it.  The 1200 signal, even post-upgrade, will still
be a second-tier signal.  I don't have any inside information, but I
do wonder whether Clear Channel is really going to hang on to their
Boston "cluster" for the long term.  It's not one of the ones that
they are currently looking to sell, but it's an oddball operation for
them and one they would probably do well to sell if given the
opportunity to do so.  (It's probably too big for Nassau to acquire,
and Entercom couldn't buy and wouldn't want the whole thing.  There's
nobody else who would benefit enough from owning those stations to
make it worth the cost of capital.)

-GAWollman


From stephanie@gordsven.com  Tue Jul 10 15:57:29 2007
From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:57:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: When WKOX-AM Goes To 50 KW...
In-Reply-To: <18067.57464.810254.744942@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <20070710175917.1C8651CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>
	<18067.57464.810254.744942@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <37457.12.37.144.130.1184097449.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com>


On Tue, July 10, 2007 15:39, Garrett Wollman wrote:

> do wonder whether Clear Channel is really going to hang on to their
> Boston "cluster" for the long term.  It's not one of the ones that
> they are currently looking to sell, but it's an oddball operation for
> them and one they would probably do well to sell if given the
> opportunity to do so.

Garrett, how is the Boston cluster an oddball property for Clear Channel? 
Is it because they only own two FM stations (108 and 94.5) ?

It's funny.  When I pulled up the Boston cluster on Clear Channel's
website, they were still listing AM 12 and AM 1430 as "Progressive Talk"
and "Nostalgia", respectively. LOL

-- 
Stephanie Weil
New York City, NY, USA

From Kaimbridge@gmail.com  Tue Jul 10 16:46:23 2007
From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:46:23 +0000
Subject: [B-R-I]  Re: Howie Carr to WTKK
Message-ID: <4693F01F.4000608@Gmail.com>

Kevin Vahey wrote,

 > Burns I *think* did a local show from the Bay Area on 1060
 > maybe 10 years ago when they tried to bring back WMEX

Actually, as our own BostonRadio.org confirms, it was 1.200-WKOX:

           http://www.bostonradio.org/stations/20441

? In 1995, the station experimented with a talk format aimed
? at Boston listeners, including talk host Gene Burns (doing
? his show via ISDN from San Francisco.)

      ~Kaimbridge~

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From rogerkirk@ttlc.net  Tue Jul 10 17:07:31 2007
From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:07:31 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
Message-ID: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net>

According to the WCVB Web Site:

Jacobson will officially sign off July 18 on the 6 p.m. newscast.


From dan.strassberg@att.net  Tue Jul 10 17:26:24 2007
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:26:24 -0400
Subject: [B-R-I]  Re: Howie Carr to WTKK
References: <4693F01F.4000608@Gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007c01c7c338$fc6f83a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg>

Actually, Burns was first on 1200 when it was still owned by Fairbanks and
later (by no means immediately after WKOX), he was on WMEX 1060 before it
went full-time. (When 1060 added night service, it had already become WBIX.)
I can't remember whether Burns had a longer run on 1200 or 1060 but I
suspect he was on 1200 longer.

--
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eFax 707-215-6367

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" <Kaimbridge@gmail.com>
To: "Boston Radio Interest" <Boston-Radio-Interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:46 PM
Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Howie Carr to WTKK


> Kevin Vahey wrote,
>
>  > Burns I *think* did a local show from the Bay Area on 1060
>  > maybe 10 years ago when they tried to bring back WMEX
>
> Actually, as our own BostonRadio.org confirms, it was 1.200-WKOX:
>
>            http://www.bostonradio.org/stations/20441
>
> ? In 1995, the station experimented with a talk format aimed
> ? at Boston listeners, including talk host Gene Burns (doing
> ? his show via ISDN from San Francisco.)
>
>       ~Kaimbridge~
>
> -----
>       Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page:
>
>                   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge
>
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>




From lglavin@mail.com  Tue Jul 10 16:44:43 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:44:43 -0500
Subject: When WKOX-AM Goes To 50 KW...
Message-ID: <20070710204443.BF9A5102EC@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com>

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Garrett Wollman" 
>To: "Laurence Glavin" 
>Subject: When WKOX-AM Goes To 50 KW...
>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:39:36 -0400

>I wouldn't bet on it. The 1200 signal, even post-upgrade, will still
>be a second-tier signal. I don't have any inside information, but I
>do wonder whether Clear Channel is really going to hang on to their
>Boston "cluster" for the long term. It's not one of the ones that
>they are currently looking to sell, but it's an oddball operation for
>them and one they would probably do well to sell if given the
>opportunity to do so. (It's probably too big for Nassau to acquire,
>and Entercom couldn't buy and wouldn't want the whole thing. There's
>nobody else who would benefit enough from owning those stations to
>make it worth the cost of capital.)
>-GAWollman

All of the above is premised on the assumption that radio station owners
are rational.  If so, WWZN wouldn't continue to be all-sports and WTTT would
try something else.  (WCRB, under Charles River "management, with a 
year-to-year 1-million-dollar decline in revenue, might have switched
to a more WQXR-like format...ultimately they managed to get out from
under Ted Jones's codicil.)  We've just had some conglomerates switch
to all-sports in markets with multiple, underperforming outlets broadcasting
that format (Houston for one).  CCU famously tried it with a high-rated FM
in Madison, WI.  A nearby liberry carries the Harvard Business Review(tm) 
magazine (which is subscriber-only on the internets), so I've only
perused it occasionally;  I think it would be very interesting if they
(or some other prominent business schoool...yes there are others) really
did a study of radio.  I wonder if it's been done.


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From dan.strassberg@att.net  Tue Jul 10 17:36:01 2007
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:36:01 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
References: <20070710174922.7981C1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <008601c7c33a$67e48ee0$19eefea9@dstrassberg>

Many of the USA Network newscasts on WBIX are "sponsored" by the Herald. If
the Herald prints WBIX ads, I suspect that it's a tradeout; that is, neither
the radio station nor the newspaper pays any cash to the other. How big are
the WBIX ads in the Herald and how often do they run? WBIX probably mentions
"this news is brought to you by the Boston Herald" 80 times a week.

--
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurence Glavin" <lglavin@mail.com>
To: <ssmyth@psualum.com>; "Bob Nelson" <raccoonradio@mail.com>;
<boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Howie Carr to WTKK


> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Sean Smyth"
> >To: "Bob Nelson" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org
> >Subject: Re: Howie Carr to WTKK
> >Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
> >Bob Nelson wrote:
> > Herald says Howie got very good ratings in key demos and literally
> > millions of ad dollars
> > could now be migrating to Greater Media...
> >Of course they're going to say that ... the Herald has a vested
> >interest!
>
> >Given the way the Herald has pimped this, it sounds like Pat Purcell
> >may have had a hand in it. WEEI seems to be a big advertiser in the
> >Herald's sports section, and pissing off Entercom isn't a good deal --
> >given the health of newspapers nowadays, losing any decent-sized
> >advertiser is a noteworthy hit.
>
> Don't forget...the Herald still has the valuable WBIX account!
>
>
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From markwats@comcast.net  Tue Jul 10 17:16:49 2007
From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:16:49 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net>
Message-ID: <004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark>

Roger Kirk wrote:

> According to the WCVB Web Site:
 
> Jacobson will officially sign off July 18 on the 6 p.m. newscast.

  Here's a link to the story on WCVB's website:
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/13655299/detail.html

  How many more broadcasting bombshells will happen this week?

Mark Watson




From me@billoneill.us  Tue Jul 10 18:02:59 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:02:59 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net> <004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark>
Message-ID: <46940213.7080706@billoneill.us>

Mark Watson wrote:
>  How many more broadcasting bombshells will happen this week?
>

How many more, Mister Speakah, how many more!

b -

From wollman@bimajority.org  Tue Jul 10 18:50:30 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:50:30 -0400
Subject: When WKOX-AM Goes To 50 KW...
In-Reply-To: <20070710204443.BF9A5102EC@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070710204443.BF9A5102EC@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <18068.3382.490735.950488@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:44:43 -0500, "Laurence Glavin" <lglavin@mail.com> said:

> All of the above is premised on the assumption that radio station owners
> are rational.

No, it's predicated on the assumption that I have some idea how Clear
Channel's management and new owners think.  I could of course be
completely mistaken, and I'm certainly not under the delusion that
they (or any other humans) are the rational utility-maximizers that
economists assert them to be.  Wall Street types are as prey to fads
as anyone else (perhaps more so).  But private-equity investors like
their companies to be focused, and that's something that Clear Channel
has had precious little of in a long time.

-GAWollman


From wollman@bimajority.org  Tue Jul 10 18:56:49 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:56:49 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <46940213.7080706@billoneill.us>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net> <004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark>
	<46940213.7080706@billoneill.us>
Message-ID: <18068.3761.671928.617616@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:02:59 -0400, "Bill O'Neill" <me@billoneill.us> said:

> How many more, Mister Speakah, how many more!

I moved to Boston in 1994.  Of the Big Name Anchors, Jack Williams is
now the only one left, and his station's news mired in fourth place
overall, despite having the strongest network affiliation.  (7's Randy
Price was still a second-stringer at 4 when I moved.)

-GAWollman


From sean.smyth@yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 19:39:23 2007
From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:39:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <18068.3761.671928.617616@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <951577.46343.qm@web58301.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org> wrote: 
> I moved to Boston in 1994.  Of the Big Name Anchors, Jack Williams is
> now the only one left, and his station's news mired in fourth place
> overall, despite having the strongest network affiliation.  

And that's after Jack was exiled for the former WWF guy.


       
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From kvahey@gmail.com  Tue Jul 10 18:04:40 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:04:40 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net> <004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707101504s51c2cbf7nd3166d21ac4f45c1@mail.gmail.com>

No way this is a retirement. The smart money is on the return of Heather Kahn.

On 7/10/07, Mark Watson <markwats@comcast.net> wrote:
> Roger Kirk wrote:
>
> > According to the WCVB Web Site:
>
> > Jacobson will officially sign off July 18 on the 6 p.m. newscast.
>
>   Here's a link to the story on WCVB's website:
> http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/13655299/detail.html
>
>   How many more broadcasting bombshells will happen this week?
>
> Mark Watson
>
>
>
>

From radiotony@comcast.net  Tue Jul 10 21:58:50 2007
From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:58:50 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <9b967a1959d1a522a36c8aa770b8b7c8@charter.net>
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>	<003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg>	<46928FE5.4010402@billoneill.us>	<40B5C55336564C40904E5A2EC020B8AC@DanBillingsPC>	<000601c7c285$8043bbb0$ca3c9441@WoodFamilyComputer>	<4fc429770707091826r2ddf0e94hcc3963b616dd21be@mail.gmail.com>	<200707100205.l6A25DjV012641@mac.com>	<4fc429770707091920g56756a03i389d111fa4dfefa3@mail.gmail.com>	<p06240800c2b94a5f6d75@192.168.0.100>	<001101c7c302$687b2400$19eefea9@dstrassberg>	<4fc429770707100809t1f4ac812me047f6fcee8d76bf@mail.gmail.com>
	<9b967a1959d1a522a36c8aa770b8b7c8@charter.net>
Message-ID: <000701c7c35f$079679c0$16c36d40$@net>

Which Gene Burns show were you listening to? I listened to him religiously
for years and that's not the way I remember. I remember him taking the first
15 to 20 minutes of the show to develop his opinion and then, he would ask
us for ours. The talk would proceed. 

Best, 
Tony Schinella

-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
David Tomm
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:27 PM
To: Kevin Vahey
Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org; Dan Strassberg
Subject: Re: Howie Carr to WTKK

Yeah, and it was gosh-awful.  The man literally didn't have an opinion 
about anything.  It was take a call, listen to what the caller said, 
thank them for calling in, ask "what do you think," pimp the phone 
number again, and repeat.  Over and over and over again.  Not 
compelling radio in the least.   Maybe that style of works at KGO, 
which tends to be a rather centrist radio station in comparison to most 
conservatalkers.  I suppose it could be effective on Sullivan's old 
shift on WBZ, but not on WRKO.  With that station skewing far right, 
they need a larger than life personality that has an opinion and isn't 
afraid to give it.  Gene Burns isn't that guy.

-Dave Tomm
"Mike Thomas"


On Jul 10, 2007, at 11:09 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote:

> I don't know how I got that so wrong....I swore I read that in the SF 
> Chronicle.
>
> Burns I *think* did a local show from the Bay Area on 1060 maybe 10
> years ago when they tried to bring back WMEX
>


From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 22:05:41 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:05:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <000701c7c35f$079679c0$16c36d40$@net>
Message-ID: <552234.21445.qm@web55307.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


--- radiotony <radiotony@comcast.net> wrote:

> Which Gene Burns show were you listening to? I
> listened to him religiously
> for years and that's not the way I remember. 

The WBIX show lacked callers.

In the later hours he would virtually be talking to
himself.  




       
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From radiotony@comcast.net  Tue Jul 10 22:07:03 2007
From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:07:03 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <552234.21445.qm@web55307.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <000701c7c35f$079679c0$16c36d40$@net>
	<552234.21445.qm@web55307.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002601c7c360$2d6307d0$88291770$@net>

Ah-ha, I thought he was talking about the WRKO days. 

Best, 
Tony Schinella


-----Original Message-----
From: Donald A. [mailto:donald_astelle@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:06 PM
To: radiotony; boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org
Subject: RE: Howie Carr to WTKK


--- radiotony <radiotony@comcast.net> wrote:

> Which Gene Burns show were you listening to? I
> listened to him religiously
> for years and that's not the way I remember. 

The WBIX show lacked callers.

In the later hours he would virtually be talking to
himself.  




       
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From me@billoneill.us  Tue Jul 10 22:36:11 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:36:11 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <552234.21445.qm@web55307.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <552234.21445.qm@web55307.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4694421B.8050501@billoneill.us>

Donald A. wrote:
> In the later hours he would virtually be talking to
> himself.  

That would have more to do with the fact that the signal, as they say, 
was <gong> -ing in the wind at that point in the broadcast day. 

I hung my hat on that excuse more than once or twice <\;-{().......


Bill O'Neill

From sean.smyth@yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 21:48:34 2007
From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:48:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: E-skip catches
Message-ID: <977892.38598.qm@web58308.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

About 7 tonight, while driving around Nashua, something was overloading
92.1 WFEX (//WFNX) on the car radio. Country 92 it called itself, I
think -- the catch was really brief. The only thing I'm finding in a
Google is 92.1 WKLL in Cullman, Ala. Any other catches that this may
have been? Any other get any good catches lately? If this was something
pretty distant, this was my first-ever "neat" e-skip catch.


       
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From kvahey@gmail.com  Tue Jul 10 22:48:56 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:48:56 -0400
Subject: WBZ and the Red Sox
Message-ID: <4fc429770707101948r6578d877ke338c42b16ee585f@mail.gmail.com>

I consider this one of the great mysteries of Boston radio history.
The Red Sox and WBZ have never joined forces. WBZ certainly coveted
sports as they have been the home of the Pats, Celtics and today the
Bruins. WTIC became a Sox  station 50 years ago in part so Tom Yawkey
could hear the games in South Carolina. Why WNAC, WAAB, WHDH, WMEX,
WITS, WPLM, WRKO, WEEI but never WBZ?

From kvahey@gmail.com  Tue Jul 10 22:51:16 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:51:16 -0400
Subject: WBZ and the Red Sox
Message-ID: <4fc429770707101951t270329crc144ef22b5ce0792@mail.gmail.com>

I consider this one of the great mysteries of Boston radio history.
The Red Sox and WBZ have never joined forces. WBZ certainly coveted
sports as they have been the home of the Pats, Celtics and today the
Bruins. WTIC became a Sox  station 50 years ago in part so Tom Yawkey
could hear the games in South Carolina. Why WNAC, WAAB, WHDH, WMEX,
WITS, WPLM, WRKO, WEEI but never WBZ?

From wollman@bimajority.org  Tue Jul 10 22:55:32 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:55:32 -0400
Subject: E-skip catches
In-Reply-To: <977892.38598.qm@web58308.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <977892.38598.qm@web58308.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <18068.18084.576203.206082@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:48:34 -0700 (PDT), Sean Smyth <sean.smyth@yahoo.com> said:

> About 7 tonight, while driving around Nashua, something was overloading
> 92.1 WFEX (//WFNX) on the car radio. Country 92 it called itself, I
> think -- the catch was really brief. The only thing I'm finding in a
> Google is 92.1 WKLL in Cullman, Ala.

There was a decent opening to the south and west today.  I had 94.9s
from Mobile and Atlanta duking it out with WHOM around 7:30 (or
193000-0400 if you prefer).

-GAWollman


From radiotest@cox.net  Tue Jul 10 23:05:38 2007
From: radiotest@cox.net (Dale H. Cook)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:05:38 -0400
Subject: E-skip catches
In-Reply-To: <977892.38598.qm@web58308.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <977892.38598.qm@web58308.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070710230158.03827860@cox.net>

At 09:48 PM 7/10/2007, Sean Smyth wrote:

>Any other get any good catches lately? If this was something
>pretty distant, this was my first-ever "neat" e-skip catch.

It was probably tropospheric ducting, rather than sporadic E. There 
was an occluded front across southern New England today, and tropo 
most often occurs across such a front. Here in Virginia we had some 
complaints of on-channel interference today, which were probably 
tropo originating from your side of the front. 


From radiotest@cox.net  Tue Jul 10 23:08:01 2007
From: radiotest@cox.net (Dale H. Cook)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:08:01 -0400
Subject: E-skip catches
In-Reply-To: <977892.38598.qm@web58308.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <977892.38598.qm@web58308.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070710230706.03815a78@cox.net>

A correction - I meant a stationary front, not an occluded front.

Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, 
Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ
http://members.cox.net/dalehcook/starcity.shtml 


From marklaurence@mac.com  Wed Jul 11 00:18:58 2007
From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:18:58 -0400
Subject: WBZ and the Red Sox
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707101948r6578d877ke338c42b16ee585f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4fc429770707101948r6578d877ke338c42b16ee585f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <308BC666-7C0B-42D8-A9AC-373261B85129@mac.com>

On Jul 10, 2007, at 10:48 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:

> I consider this one of the great mysteries of Boston radio history.
> The Red Sox and WBZ have never joined forces. WBZ certainly coveted
> sports as they have been the home of the Pats, Celtics and today the
> Bruins. WTIC became a Sox  station 50 years ago in part so Tom Yawkey
> could hear the games in South Carolina. Why WNAC, WAAB, WHDH, WMEX,
> WITS, WPLM, WRKO, WEEI but never WBZ?

Maybe because their strong signal would lower the value of network  
affiliations in many markets.  I'm guessing that was more of a  
consideration 20-40 years ago than it is now, but I think the network  
was probably a large part of the financial package.  As a network  
flagship, WBZ would be competing against many of its affiliates.

From jjlehmann@comcast.net  Wed Jul 11 00:14:13 2007
From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:14:13 -0400
Subject: E-skip catches
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070710230158.03827860@cox.net>
Message-ID: <012301c7c371$f11deee0$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1>

We've actually had both E Skip and Tropo conditions tonight. The ES lasted
from around 5 PM through about 7, then good trop to Connecticut and New York
took over after that.

During the ES, I heard many stations from Florida, Georgia, and Alabama.

Jeff Lehmann
Hanson, MA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf
> Of Dale H. Cook
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:06 PM
> To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org
> Subject: Re: E-skip catches
> 
> At 09:48 PM 7/10/2007, Sean Smyth wrote:
> 
> >Any other get any good catches lately? If this was something
> >pretty distant, this was my first-ever "neat" e-skip catch.
> 
> It was probably tropospheric ducting, rather than sporadic E. There
> was an occluded front across southern New England today, and tropo
> most often occurs across such a front. Here in Virginia we had some
> complaints of on-channel interference today, which were probably
> tropo originating from your side of the front.


From joe@attorneyross.com  Wed Jul 11 02:28:15 2007
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:28:15 -0500
Subject: WBZ and the Red Sox
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707101948r6578d877ke338c42b16ee585f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4fc429770707101948r6578d877ke338c42b16ee585f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4694322F.7739.581DCC@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 10 Jul 2007 at 22:48, Kevin Vahey wrote:

> I consider this one of the great mysteries of Boston radio history.
> The Red Sox and WBZ have never joined forces. WBZ certainly coveted
> sports as they have been the home of the Pats, Celtics and today the
> Bruins. WTIC became a Sox  station 50 years ago in part so Tom Yawkey
> could hear the games in South Carolina. Why WNAC, WAAB, WHDH, WMEX,
> WITS, WPLM, WRKO, WEEI but never WBZ?
 
Especially since the Red Sox were on Channel 4 back in the 1950s, 
before WHDH-TV 5 came on the air.

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street	                                  Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From raccoonradio@mail.com  Wed Jul 11 03:52:07 2007
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:52:07 -0500
Subject: Carr files suit against WRKO
Message-ID: <20070711075207.DB33D83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>

According to today's Herald, Howie is due to return tomorrow...the article(s) also say
Entercom claims it has matched WTKK's offer.

As for Savage they can't really put him on in the afternoons (exc. the 6-7 pm hour)
as Savage's show is first broadcast at what is 6-9 pm our time...so, unless they
want stuff that's almost 24 hours old to run at 3 pm...

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=1010614

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=1010440

"Yesterday, WRKO matched that offer, said ?RKO attorney Shepard Davidson of Burns & Levinson. He would not disclose details.
'We look at it as fighting for him because we?re not trying to fight with him or against him,' Davidson said. 'We want him to stay.'" 


From kvahey@gmail.com  Wed Jul 11 08:13:03 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:13:03 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <18068.3761.671928.617616@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net> <004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark>
	<46940213.7080706@billoneill.us>
	<18068.3761.671928.617616@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707110513y355ad8e9ta56b1ce24ad6a11@mail.gmail.com>

The Inside Track is saying this was not amicable and she might land at 1170 SFR.

On 7/10/07, Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org> wrote:
> <<On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:02:59 -0400, "Bill O'Neill" <me@billoneill.us>
> said:
>
> > How many more, Mister Speakah, how many more!
>
> I moved to Boston in 1994.  Of the Big Name Anchors, Jack Williams is
> now the only one left, and his station's news mired in fourth place
> overall, despite having the strongest network affiliation.  (7's Randy
> Price was still a second-stringer at 4 when I moved.)
>
> -GAWollman
>
>

From mamros@MIT.EDU  Wed Jul 11 10:44:06 2007
From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:44:06 -0400
Subject: WBZ and the Red Sox
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:18:58 EDT."
	<308BC666-7C0B-42D8-A9AC-373261B85129@mac.com> 
Message-ID: <200707111444.l6BEi6SE004786@mass-toolpike.mit.edu>

>Maybe because their strong signal would lower the value of network  
>affiliations in many markets.  I'm guessing that was more of a  
>consideration 20-40 years ago than it is now, but I think the network  
>was probably a large part of the financial package.  As a network  
>flagship, WBZ would be competing against many of its affiliates.

But there are other cities where the games ran on their respective
local powerhouse signals.  In Pittsburgh, KDKA broadcast the Pirates'
games for many decades.

Here's a possibile explanation: did 'BZ air the Boston Braves' games?
(And if not, who did?)

-Shawn Mamros
E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu

From kvahey@gmail.com  Wed Jul 11 10:53:44 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:53:44 -0400
Subject: WBZ and the Red Sox
In-Reply-To: <200707111444.l6BEi6SE004786@mass-toolpike.mit.edu>
References: <308BC666-7C0B-42D8-A9AC-373261B85129@mac.com>
	<200707111444.l6BEi6SE004786@mass-toolpike.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707110753g53ebaa1dp16b86ec22e3a8001@mail.gmail.com>

Tom Yawkey had a handshake deal with Robert "Beanie" Choate the owner
of the Herald that went back to 1946. The Braves ended up on WNAC
their last few years. When Yawkey decided to air road games he gave
Jim Britt first crack at it and Britt decided to stay with the Braves
and then Yawkey hired Yankees broadcaster Curt Gowdy.

Still it was the broadcaster not the team that built the network and
the Sox lost being on a blowtorch outside of New England ( though WTIC
filled the void to some extent )

Westinghouse certainly had a huge baseball interest at KDKA.

From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net  Wed Jul 11 11:04:21 2007
From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:04:21 -0400
Subject: WBZ and the Red Sox
References: <4fc429770707101948r6578d877ke338c42b16ee585f@mail.gmail.com>
	<308BC666-7C0B-42D8-A9AC-373261B85129@mac.com>
Message-ID: <00a001c7c3cc$c6ee5000$63834c0c@oemcomputer>


----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Laurence <marklaurence@mac.com>
To: Kevin Vahey <kvahey@gmail.com>
Cc: BostonRadio Mailing List <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: WBZ and the Red Sox


> On Jul 10, 2007, at 10:48 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
>
> > I consider this one of the great mysteries of Boston radio history.
> > The Red Sox and WBZ have never joined forces. WBZ certainly coveted
> > sports as they have been the home of the Pats, Celtics and today the
> > Bruins. WTIC became a Sox  station 50 years ago in part so Tom Yawkey
> > could hear the games in South Carolina. Why WNAC, WAAB, WHDH, WMEX,
> > WITS, WPLM, WRKO, WEEI but never WBZ?
>
> Maybe because their strong signal would lower the value of network
> affiliations in many markets.  I'm guessing that was more of a
> consideration 20-40 years ago than it is now, but I think the network
> was probably a large part of the financial package.  As a network
> flagship, WBZ would be competing against many of its affiliates.
>

For some reason this has never seemed to matter to the Cubs and WGN. OTOH,
many other teams have migrated away from their old 50 kw flagships in recent
years (WJR, KMOX, WSB, WBAL), but I thought those moves were done to get the
teams on all-sports stations or younger-demographic FM, not to please the
affiliates in the sticks. Right?

Howard



From me@billoneill.us  Wed Jul 11 11:09:03 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:09:03 -0400
Subject: WBZ and the Red Sox
In-Reply-To: <00a001c7c3cc$c6ee5000$63834c0c@oemcomputer>
References: <4fc429770707101948r6578d877ke338c42b16ee585f@mail.gmail.com>	<308BC666-7C0B-42D8-A9AC-373261B85129@mac.com>
	<00a001c7c3cc$c6ee5000$63834c0c@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <4694F28F.4020405@billoneill.us>

Howard Glazer wrote:
> but I thought those moves were done to get the
> teams on all-sports stations or younger-demographic FM, not to please the
> affiliates in the sticks. Right?

I suspect it has always been about spot inventory and network 
penetration for the rate card.

Bill O'Neill

From kvahey@gmail.com  Wed Jul 11 10:48:30 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:48:30 -0400
Subject: prayers for Jess Cain
Message-ID: <4fc429770707110748v5eb4b146g4b39333574c7fb3a@mail.gmail.com>

Jay Fitzgerald in the Herald tells us this morning that long time WHDH
morning man Jess Cain is very ill. Get Well Jess!!!


http://news.bostonherald.com/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1010631

From kvahey@gmail.com  Wed Jul 11 11:16:36 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:16:36 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net> <004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark>
	<46940213.7080706@billoneill.us>
	<18068.3761.671928.617616@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<4fc429770707110513y355ad8e9ta56b1ce24ad6a11@mail.gmail.com>
	<02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
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I don't understand it as it happens to be my newscast of choice at 11.

CBS just has problems with most of their o and o's with local news.
Channel 2's in NY and Chicago are a disaster.

It may get worse for Ch 4 at 11 when FOX25 starts their 11 PM in a few weeks.




On 7/11/07, Doug Drown <revdoug1@verizon.net> wrote:
  Any
> opinions as to why Channel 4 has become the perpetual also-ran?

From revdoug1@verizon.net  Wed Jul 11 11:24:06 2007
From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:24:06 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net> <004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark>
	<46940213.7080706@billoneill.us>
	<18068.3761.671928.617616@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<4fc429770707110513y355ad8e9ta56b1ce24ad6a11@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>

>Of the Big Name Anchors, Jack Williams is
> now the only one left, and his station's news mired in fourth place
> overall, despite having the strongest network affiliation.<

As I haven't lived in Mass. for years, I've been curious for some time as to
why this is so.  WBZ-TV changed its network affiliation twelve years ago, if
memory serves, and it's never been able to get itself out of the doldrums
since --- despite the fact, as you say, that it's affiliated with the lead
network.  When I make my visits to family/friends in the Gardner-Fitchburg
area, I make a point of watching and comparing 4, 5 and 7.  4 and 5 seem
fairly similar in "style" if you will, while 7 is much more slick.  Any
opinions as to why Channel 4 has become the perpetual also-ran?

-Doug

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Vahey" <kvahey@gmail.com>
To: "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org>
Cc: <bri@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: Natalie Jacobson To Retire


> The Inside Track is saying this was not amicable and she might land at
1170 SFR.
>
> On 7/10/07, Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org> wrote:
> > <<On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:02:59 -0400, "Bill O'Neill" <me@billoneill.us>
> > said:
> >
> > > How many more, Mister Speakah, how many more!
> >
> > I moved to Boston in 1994.  Of the Big Name Anchors, Jack Williams is
> > now the only one left, and his station's news mired in fourth place
> > overall, despite having the strongest network affiliation.  (7's Randy
> > Price was still a second-stringer at 4 when I moved.)
> >
> > -GAWollman
> >
> >


From nostaticatall@charter.net  Wed Jul 11 13:05:03 2007
From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:05:03 -0400
Subject: WBZ and the Red Sox
In-Reply-To: <00a001c7c3cc$c6ee5000$63834c0c@oemcomputer>
References: <4fc429770707101948r6578d877ke338c42b16ee585f@mail.gmail.com>
	<308BC666-7C0B-42D8-A9AC-373261B85129@mac.com>
	<00a001c7c3cc$c6ee5000$63834c0c@oemcomputer>
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If the Sox landed on WBZ from the beginning, like the Cubs did with WGN 
or the Cardinals did with KMOX, the large radio network would have 
never been built.  Back in the 80's the Mets put their games on 660 and 
essentially dismantled their network, since most of their fan base can 
get a clean signal from WFAN.  I don't think the Sox want to do that.  
The network is a revenue stream, and is key to the value of the radio 
rights.  Nowadays, more and more areas are getting the Sox games on FM, 
like with 103.7 in SE MA, RI and eastern CT, and North Shore with 
104.9.  While WBZ does have that big signal, I'd rather have the 
opportunity to listen on FM.  In the coming years, expect more markets 
in the region to put the games on FM signals.

Dave Tomm
"Mike Thomas"


On Jul 11, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Howard Glazer wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Laurence <marklaurence@mac.com>
> To: Kevin Vahey <kvahey@gmail.com>
> Cc: BostonRadio Mailing List 
> <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:18 AM
> Subject: Re: WBZ and the Red Sox
>
>
>> On Jul 10, 2007, at 10:48 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
>>
>>> I consider this one of the great mysteries of Boston radio history.
>>> The Red Sox and WBZ have never joined forces. WBZ certainly coveted
>>> sports as they have been the home of the Pats, Celtics and today the
>>> Bruins. WTIC became a Sox  station 50 years ago in part so Tom Yawkey
>>> could hear the games in South Carolina. Why WNAC, WAAB, WHDH, WMEX,
>>> WITS, WPLM, WRKO, WEEI but never WBZ?
>>
>> Maybe because their strong signal would lower the value of network
>> affiliations in many markets.  I'm guessing that was more of a
>> consideration 20-40 years ago than it is now, but I think the network
>> was probably a large part of the financial package.  As a network
>> flagship, WBZ would be competing against many of its affiliates.
>>
>
> For some reason this has never seemed to matter to the Cubs and WGN. 
> OTOH,
> many other teams have migrated away from their old 50 kw flagships in 
> recent
> years (WJR, KMOX, WSB, WBAL), but I thought those moves were done to 
> get the
> teams on all-sports stations or younger-demographic FM, not to please 
> the
> affiliates in the sticks. Right?
>
> Howard
>
>


From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Wed Jul 11 13:54:31 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:54:31 -0400
Subject: WBZ and the Red Sox
References: <4fc429770707101948r6578d877ke338c42b16ee585f@mail.gmail.com><308BC666-7C0B-42D8-A9AC-373261B85129@mac.com><00a001c7c3cc$c6ee5000$63834c0c@oemcomputer>
	<dae8e14ca663e72c898fc74578c17e8c@charter.net>
Message-ID: <013d01c7c3e4$9eda87b0$6801a8c0@DESKTOP2>



> I don't think the Sox want to do that.  The network is a revenue stream, 
> and is key to the value of the radio rights.

What does it cost a small station in the boonies to carry the Sox?

What does a WASR in Wolfeboro, NH pay to carry.

I remember wokring at a sstation that carried the Bruins....and it was free 
to us, because they flagship wanted to see their spots get heard everywhere 
and anywhere they could!


From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Wed Jul 11 13:59:10 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:59:10 -0400
Subject: Carr files suit against WRKO
References: <20070711075207.DB33D83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <014e01c7c3e5$3198c0d0$6801a8c0@DESKTOP2>


"Yesterday, WRKO matched that offer, said 'RKO attorney Shepard Davidson of 
Burns & Levinson. He would not disclose details.
'We look at it as fighting for him because we're not trying to fight with 
him or against him,' Davidson said. 'We want him to stay.'"

I haven't seen anyone discuss what exactly the offer 
is....(i.e...compensation.)

Does anyone know?

Typically the numbers end up bubbling to the surface somewhere/sometime.

Anyone hear anything?


From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Wed Jul 11 14:07:18 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:07:18 -0400
Subject: WNSH's new CP
Message-ID: <05fe01c7c3e6$835e05a0$6801a8c0@DESKTOP2>

Wow...the new 30KW CP for WNSH in Beverly is much better than the first 
coverage they were proposing.....

http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WNSH&service=AM&status=C&hours=D

Although that null to the west of Boston means it will primarily be a North 
Shore station.
(And a virtual daytimer at that!) 


From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Wed Jul 11 14:18:19 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:18:19 -0400
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
References: <004001c7c25b$cb22b390$128e3f81@MoeHoward>
	<003401c7c260$152bf600$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
Message-ID: <061501c7c3e9$29e92510$6801a8c0@DESKTOP2>


>  The calls were WTTP. I
> believe Whitely started the Restaurant Show on WTTP...

Actually, Whitley started the 'Restaurant Show' on WITS 1510AM.

It was so sucessful for WITS that they were on the verge of starting "The 
Car Dealer Show"...(the name was never formalized!) ;-0

This was a show (maybe an hour or two) where people could call in an 
zing/praise a New England car dealer.

Same principle as the Restaurant Show....and the revenue from car dealer ads 
would pour in (much like restaurant ads).


Right now Whitley can eat out every night and travel....and it's all a 
business expense!

With the "Car Dealer Show" he could drive a Lamborghini...as a business 
expense as well!

Not a bad deal.


From nostaticatall@charter.net  Wed Jul 11 12:49:25 2007
From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:49:25 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net> <004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark>
	<46940213.7080706@billoneill.us>
	<18068.3761.671928.617616@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<4fc429770707110513y355ad8e9ta56b1ce24ad6a11@mail.gmail.com>
	<02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
Message-ID: <08a52fef150e0d4b69e60faf8079b185@charter.net>

I think people get settled with one newscast and tend to stick with it. 
  Younger viewers have historically been drawn to 7's tabloid style 
presentation.  Fox 25's newscast will probably siphon off more viewers 
from them than the other stations as they also have a faster paced 
delivery.  Older viewers have tended to watch Channel 5, due to the 
draw of a veteran reporting staff (Gail, Jorge etc) along with Natalie, 
Dick Albert, Harvey Leonard and Mike Lynch.  Even their graphics are 
"old school."

At the end of the day, WBZ just gets lost in the shuffle.  They've 
brought in personalities from other stations in the market, like John 
Keller and Chris May but it doesn't seem to help.  And that may be the 
underlying problem.  I tend to watch 4 more than the others and it's 
always been a revolving door over there.  You never know who's going to 
be on which newscast, even when it's not vacation season.  People tend 
to like a certain style of newscast, and they'll stay with it if there 
are personalities they can rely on night in and night out.  Channel 5 
had that credibility but by jettisoning Natalie, that could be put into 
jeopardy.

WBZ needs to stabilize the people in their newscasts and keep them 
there.  If Natalie goes to 1170, they should find a spot for her and 
let it develop, not bounce her around between 5, 6, & 11 like they've 
done with other anchors.  If 5 is trying to go younger to run with 7 & 
25, I'm sure there will be more veteran departures coming out of 
Needham.  WBZ should snap some of them up and build a newscast that 
specifically targets the upper end of 18-49.  It's not sexy, but with 
three other stations fighting over the 20 & 30 somethings, WBZ could 
find a niche with older viewers which could be lucrative in an older 
skewing market like Boston.

Dave Tomm
"Mike Thomas"

On Jul 11, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Doug Drown wrote:

>> Of the Big Name Anchors, Jack Williams is
>> now the only one left, and his station's news mired in fourth place
>> overall, despite having the strongest network affiliation.<
>
> As I haven't lived in Mass. for years, I've been curious for some time 
> as to
> why this is so.  WBZ-TV changed its network affiliation twelve years 
> ago, if
> memory serves, and it's never been able to get itself out of the 
> doldrums
> since --- despite the fact, as you say, that it's affiliated with the 
> lead
> network.  When I make my visits to family/friends in the 
> Gardner-Fitchburg
> area, I make a point of watching and comparing 4, 5 and 7.  4 and 5 
> seem
> fairly similar in "style" if you will, while 7 is much more slick.  Any
> opinions as to why Channel 4 has become the perpetual also-ran?
>
> -Doug


From Joe@attorneyross.com  Wed Jul 11 15:30:55 2007
From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:30:55 -0500
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net>,
	<02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
Message-ID: <4694E99F.16918.32E914@Joe.attorneyross.com>

On 11 Jul 2007 Doug Drown wrote:

> As I haven't lived in Mass. for years, I've been curious for some time
> as to why this is so.  WBZ-TV changed its network affiliation twelve
> years ago, if memory serves, and it's never been able to get itself
> out of the doldrums since --- despite the fact, as you say, that it's
> affiliated with the lead network.  When I make my visits to
> family/friends in the Gardner-Fitchburg area, I make a point of
> watching and comparing 4, 5 and 7.  4 and 5 seem fairly similar in
> "style" if you will, while 7 is much more slick.  Any opinions as to
> why Channel 4 has become the perpetual also-ran?

I don't know, but channel 7 was the perpetual also-ran in news while 
it was a CBS affiliate.  Maybe that has something to do with it. 

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                   617.367.0468
92 State Street                          Fax: 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109              http://www.attorneyross.com



From me@billoneill.us  Wed Jul 11 15:24:39 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:24:39 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <4694E99F.16918.32E914@Joe.attorneyross.com>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net>,
	<02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
	<4694E99F.16918.32E914@Joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <46952E77.6010501@billoneill.us>

A. Joseph Ross wrote:
> I don't know, but channel 7 was the perpetual also-ran in news while 
> it was a CBS affiliate.  Maybe that has something to do with it. 
>   

Can't you just see those rocketing Couric numbers making the folks at 
WBZ all giddy?  They'd be very wise to make as much out of Jacobson as 
possible and let her do it her way.  And with CBS Evening News as poor a 
product as it is, I'd bite the bullet and bring back a full hour at six 
and run Katie at 7. 

Bill O'Neill

From me@billoneill.us  Wed Jul 11 11:49:34 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:49:34 -0400
Subject: prayers for Jess Cain
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707110748v5eb4b146g4b39333574c7fb3a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4fc429770707110748v5eb4b146g4b39333574c7fb3a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4694FC0E.7030406@billoneill.us>

Kevin Vahey wrote:
> Jay Fitzgerald in the Herald tells us this morning that long time WHDH
> morning man Jess Cain is very ill. Get Well Jess!!!
>
>
> http://news.bostonherald.com/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1010631
>
>

Fitzgerald's article is a must-read if you have a chance. He gives Jess 
spot-on and well-deserved praise. 

In my relatively short tenure at WHDH back in the 80s, Jess was to bring 
his 35+ year career to a close, with the final radio chapter an 
interesting AM combo with Tom Doyle.  Let's just say that with Pudge 
Flynn, Jess needed no other partner - that was amazing chemistry. 

One of the funniest Jess bits was enshrined on Pudge's Wall of Carts in 
master at the old NE Life Hall studio. I forget the label but it was 
(Jess speaking in) faux Chinese with sitar and big-finish gong 
accompaniment (yes, very un-pc by modern standards). Eddie's echs often 
played that as a bed under Eddie's live Kowloon reads during Sportstalk 
and the Huddle.  Hysterical.  The first time I saw it done was when Don 
Albanese was teching the board.  It was then that I learned that the bit 
was that of Jess - never would have guessed.  I also witnessed Jess read 
the weather report over practically all of the Axel F 
Theme/Faltermeyer(?)  (from the Eddie Murphy film) but Jess actually 
spoke the words of the forecast to the actual syncopation of the song.  
He was standing there doing it all on the fly just for the heck of it 
but it was flawless.  Now, if I ever hear that song in the background I 
can only remember Jess's "It will be Sun-shine and bree-zy to-MO-row..." 
all in a soft, underplayed voice/tone. 

Glad to hear that Jess is in good hands and held in prayer. Get well soon!

Bill O'Neill

From scott@fybush.com  Wed Jul 11 16:18:19 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:18:19 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <46952E77.6010501@billoneill.us>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net>,
	<02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>	<4694E99F.16918.32E914@Joe.attorneyross.com>
	<46952E77.6010501@billoneill.us>
Message-ID: <46953B0B.2000400@fybush.com>

Bill O'Neill wrote:
> A. Joseph Ross wrote:
>> I don't know, but channel 7 was the perpetual also-ran in news while 
>> it was a CBS affiliate.  Maybe that has something to do with it.   
> 
> Can't you just see those rocketing Couric numbers making the folks at 
> WBZ all giddy?  They'd be very wise to make as much out of Jacobson as 
> possible and let her do it her way.  And with CBS Evening News as poor a 
> product as it is, I'd bite the bullet and bring back a full hour at six 
> and run Katie at 7.

At this stage of the game, if I were running WBZ and if it weren't an 
O&O, I'd do an hour of news from 6-7 on 4, and then put Katie on at 
7...on 38!

That, needless to say, is a non-starter in an O&O environment...

s

From sean.smyth@yahoo.com  Wed Jul 11 15:29:05 2007
From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:29:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <4694E99F.16918.32E914@Joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <220493.91488.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

"A. Joseph Ross" <Joe@attorneyross.com> wrote:
> I don't know, but channel 7 was the perpetual also-ran in news while 
> it was a CBS affiliate.  Maybe that has something to do with it. 

For much of that time, CBS also was the No. 3 network. Even with a weak
prime-time lineup, Channel 7's news shot up in the ratings once Sunbeam
took over. And they're still up there, even though NBC's at the bottom
of the network pecking order nowadays.


       
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From me@billoneill.us  Wed Jul 11 15:23:01 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:23:01 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <4694E99F.16918.32E914@Joe.attorneyross.com>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net>,
	<02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
	<4694E99F.16918.32E914@Joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <46952E15.6080308@billoneill.us>

A. Joseph Ross wrote:
> I don't know, but channel 7 was the perpetual also-ran in news while 
> it was a CBS affiliate.  Maybe that has something to do with it. 
>   

Can't you just see those rocketing Couric numbers making the folks at 
WBZ all giddy?  They'd be very wise to make as much out of Jacobson as 
possible and let her do it her way.  And with CBS news as poor a product 
as it is, I'd bite the bullet and bring back a full hour at six and run 
Katie at 7. 

Bill O'Neill

From m_carney@yahoo.com  Wed Jul 11 18:16:15 2007
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:16:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Howie Carr to WTKK
In-Reply-To: <008601c7c33a$67e48ee0$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
Message-ID: <12692.69754.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

It is a trade. WBIX gets a quarter page ad daily
listing their hosts and shows and it hasn't changed in
about 6 months. The Herald also runs promotional ads
for Howie's show and Sports Tonight on FSN New England
- also trades.

--- Dan Strassberg <dan.strassberg@att.net> wrote:

> Many of the USA Network newscasts on WBIX are
> "sponsored" by the Herald. If
> the Herald prints WBIX ads, I suspect that it's a
> tradeout; that is, neither
> the radio station nor the newspaper pays any cash to
> the other. How big are
> the WBIX ads in the Herald and how often do they
> run? WBIX probably mentions
> "this news is brought to you by the Boston Herald"
> 80 times a week.
> 
> --
> Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net
> eFax 707-215-6367
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Laurence Glavin" <lglavin@mail.com>
> To: <ssmyth@psualum.com>; "Bob Nelson"
> <raccoonradio@mail.com>;
> <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Howie Carr to WTKK
> 
> 
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Sean Smyth"
> > >To: "Bob Nelson" ,
> boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org
> > >Subject: Re: Howie Carr to WTKK
> > >Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
> > >Bob Nelson wrote:
> > > Herald says Howie got very good ratings in key
> demos and literally
> > > millions of ad dollars
> > > could now be migrating to Greater Media...
> > >Of course they're going to say that ... the
> Herald has a vested
> > >interest!
> >
> > >Given the way the Herald has pimped this, it
> sounds like Pat Purcell
> > >may have had a hand in it. WEEI seems to be a big
> advertiser in the
> > >Herald's sports section, and pissing off Entercom
> isn't a good deal --
> > >given the health of newspapers nowadays, losing
> any decent-sized
> > >advertiser is a noteworthy hit.
> >
> > Don't forget...the Herald still has the valuable
> WBIX account!
> >
> >
> > --
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From rickajho@rcn.com  Wed Jul 11 22:27:51 2007
From: rickajho@rcn.com (Rick)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:27:51 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net> <004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark>
	<46940213.7080706@billoneill.us>
	<18068.3761.671928.617616@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<4fc429770707110513y355ad8e9ta56b1ce24ad6a11@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4fc429770707110816h71903ad0pb37a753c65cd1fc0@mail.gmail.com>
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Kevin Vahey wrote:
> 
> I don't understand it as it happens to be my newscast of choice at 11.
> 
> CBS just has problems with most of their o and o's with local news.
> Channel 2's in NY and Chicago are a disaster.
> 
> It may get worse for Ch 4 at 11 when FOX25 starts their 11 PM in a few weeks.

I can't see that happening because Fox has confused the public too many
times by switching time slots and dropping time slots for it's news
coverage.

Rick

From nostaticatall@charter.net  Thu Jul 12 00:29:22 2007
From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:29:22 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <469591A7.742D204A@rcn.com>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net> <004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark>
	<46940213.7080706@billoneill.us>
	<18068.3761.671928.617616@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<4fc429770707110513y355ad8e9ta56b1ce24ad6a11@mail.gmail.com>
	<02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
	<4fc429770707110816h71903ad0pb37a753c65cd1fc0@mail.gmail.com>
	<469591A7.742D204A@rcn.com>
Message-ID: <7c37a519b366b869728000a9f3a1d8b9@charter.net>

I think you are confusing Fox 25 with Channels 38 & 56, which have 
added, dropped and moved newscasts frequently over the last several 
years.  25 has aired a self-produced 10pm newscast for quite some time. 
  David Wade and Maria Stephanos have been doing that newscast together 
longer than most of the other current anchor teams on 4, 5 & 7.  I 
fully expect them to get their share of the 11pm news audience, and 7 
News will most likely take the largest hit.

Dave Tomm
"Mike Thomas"

On Jul 11, 2007, at 10:27 PM, Rick wrote:

> Kevin Vahey wrote:
>>
>> I don't understand it as it happens to be my newscast of choice at 11.
>>
>> CBS just has problems with most of their o and o's with local news.
>> Channel 2's in NY and Chicago are a disaster.
>>
>> It may get worse for Ch 4 at 11 when FOX25 starts their 11 PM in a 
>> few weeks.
>
> I can't see that happening because Fox has confused the public too many
> times by switching time slots and dropping time slots for it's news
> coverage.
>
> Rick
>


From rac@gabrielmass.com  Thu Jul 12 03:57:58 2007
From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:57:58 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <7c37a519b366b869728000a9f3a1d8b9@charter.net>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net>
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	<7c37a519b366b869728000a9f3a1d8b9@charter.net>
Message-ID: <4695DF06.3030804@gabrielmass.com>

Can we expect NECN to make Natalie an offer?

--RC


From adamg@gaffin.com  Thu Jul 12 08:41:11 2007
From: adamg@gaffin.com (Adam Gaffin)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:41:11 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <7c37a519b366b869728000a9f3a1d8b9@charter.net>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net>
	<004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark>	<46940213.7080706@billoneill.us>	<18068.3761.671928.617616@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>	<4fc429770707110513y355ad8e9ta56b1ce24ad6a11@mail.gmail.com>	<02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>	<4fc429770707110816h71903ad0pb37a753c65cd1fc0@mail.gmail.com>	<469591A7.742D204A@rcn.com>
	<7c37a519b366b869728000a9f3a1d8b9@charter.net>
Message-ID: <46962167.8000208@gaffin.com>

Better put a line through David Wade's name:

http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/moreTrack/view.bg?articleid=1010668

-- Adam

David Tomm wrote:
> I think you are confusing Fox 25 with Channels 38 & 56, which have 
> added, dropped and moved newscasts frequently over the last several 
> years.  25 has aired a self-produced 10pm newscast for quite some time. 
>  David Wade and Maria Stephanos have been doing that newscast together 
> longer than most of the other current anchor teams on 4, 5 & 7.  I fully 
> expect them to get their share of the 11pm news audience, and 7 News 
> will most likely take the largest hit.
> 
> Dave Tomm
> "Mike Thomas"
> 
> On Jul 11, 2007, at 10:27 PM, Rick wrote:
> 
>> Kevin Vahey wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't understand it as it happens to be my newscast of choice at 11.
>>>
>>> CBS just has problems with most of their o and o's with local news.
>>> Channel 2's in NY and Chicago are a disaster.
>>>
>>> It may get worse for Ch 4 at 11 when FOX25 starts their 11 PM in a 
>>> few weeks.
>>
>> I can't see that happening because Fox has confused the public too many
>> times by switching time slots and dropping time slots for it's news
>> coverage.
>>
>> Rick
>>
> 
> 

From raccoonradio@mail.com  Thu Jul 12 11:26:24 2007
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:26:24 -0500
Subject: Boston Phoenix: "Getaway Carr"
Message-ID: <20070712152624.D499A49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>

Adam Reilly of the Boston Phoenix writes about Howie Carr bolting from WRKO.

http://thephoenix.com/article_ektid43521.aspx

He says that Howie had a bunch of grievances against WRKO, one of them being
the hiring of Finneran. He suggests that the hiring of the former Speaker
made things worse for Howie by driving listeners away from the station.

And now WRKO has to face the prospect of not only having a weaker
pm drive personality, but Carr will be a formidable foe in morning drive.
Mike Harrison of Talkers is quoted as saying that younger listeners
and women may discover Carr once he moves to the FM dial.


From m_carney@yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 11:57:11 2007
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:57:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <4695DF06.3030804@gabrielmass.com>
Message-ID: <600037.61862.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

If money was the issue with her WCVB renegotiations,
no. Cable stations operate on a much different
financial model than broadcast outlets. There's also
the comfort factor of having Nat & Chet on the same
station. Even if they don't do a show together would
there be some tension and/or discomfort that could
filter to the staff and viewers? They could have the
best of intentions and still things could sour.

--- Richard Chonak <rac@gabrielmass.com> wrote:

> Can we expect NECN to make Natalie an offer?
> 
> --RC
> 
> 



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From sean.smyth@yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 11:23:32 2007
From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:23:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <4695DF06.3030804@gabrielmass.com>
Message-ID: <839785.17122.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Richard Chonak <rac@gabrielmass.com> wrote:
> Can we expect NECN to make Natalie an offer?

Now that would make for some interesting dynamics ...


 
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From nostaticatall@charter.net  Thu Jul 12 12:36:56 2007
From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:36:56 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <600037.61862.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <600037.61862.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e3cc0ad36d3bc67348c51b07276040a1@charter.net>

Plus, doesn't Hearst operate NECN in conjunction with Comcast?  They're 
separate entities, but NECN and Channel 5  have shared personnel for 
awhile now.  Chet went to NECN, and JC Monahan moved up to WCVB a few 
years ago, among others.  If Natalie wants more money, she won't get it 
from there.  I don't think Natalie would have bolted unless she was 
confident she could get her price elsewhere (WBZ) or was truly ready to 
retire.  I'll be surprised if she doesn't wind up on 4 eventually.

-Dave Tomm
"Mike Thomas"

On Jul 12, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Maureen Carney wrote:

> If money was the issue with her WCVB renegotiations,
> no. Cable stations operate on a much different
> financial model than broadcast outlets. There's also
> the comfort factor of having Nat & Chet on the same
> station. Even if they don't do a show together would
> there be some tension and/or discomfort that could
> filter to the staff and viewers? They could have the
> best of intentions and still things could sour.
>
> --- Richard Chonak <rac@gabrielmass.com> wrote:
>
>> Can we expect NECN to make Natalie an offer?
>>
>> --RC
>>
>>


From m_carney@yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 12:41:57 2007
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:41:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <e3cc0ad36d3bc67348c51b07276040a1@charter.net>
Message-ID: <797280.29125.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Separate entities and separate studios - WCVB in
Needham, NECN in Newton. They don't share on-air
talent as much as they used to. Comcast is now the
dominant partner as far as decisions go.

I feel I'm in the minority but I just don't see Nat
landing @ WBZ. They recently cut a lot of staffers and
adding high priced talent may cause too much
consernation in the newsroom. But the public doesn't
see that so it may be worth the risk for 'BZ.

--- David Tomm <nostaticatall@charter.net> wrote:

> Plus, doesn't Hearst operate NECN in conjunction
> with Comcast?  They're 
> separate entities, but NECN and Channel 5  have
> shared personnel for 
> awhile now.  Chet went to NECN, and JC Monahan moved
> up to WCVB a few 
> years ago, among others.  If Natalie wants more
> money, she won't get it 
> from there.  I don't think Natalie would have bolted
> unless she was 
> confident she could get her price elsewhere (WBZ) or
> was truly ready to 
> retire.  I'll be surprised if she doesn't wind up on
> 4 eventually.
> 
> -Dave Tomm
> "Mike Thomas"
> 
> On Jul 12, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Maureen Carney wrote:
> 
> > If money was the issue with her WCVB
> renegotiations,
> > no. Cable stations operate on a much different
> > financial model than broadcast outlets. There's
> also
> > the comfort factor of having Nat & Chet on the
> same
> > station. Even if they don't do a show together
> would
> > there be some tension and/or discomfort that could
> > filter to the staff and viewers? They could have
> the
> > best of intentions and still things could sour.
> >
> > --- Richard Chonak <rac@gabrielmass.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Can we expect NECN to make Natalie an offer?
> >>
> >> --RC
> >>
> >>
> 
> 



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From wollman@bimajority.org  Thu Jul 12 12:51:46 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:51:46 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <797280.29125.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <e3cc0ad36d3bc67348c51b07276040a1@charter.net>
	<797280.29125.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <18070.23586.162407.586847@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:41:57 -0700 (PDT), Maureen Carney <m_carney@yahoo.com> said:

> I feel I'm in the minority but I just don't see Nat
> landing @ WBZ. They recently cut a lot of staffers and
> adding high priced talent may cause too much
> consernation in the newsroom. But the public doesn't
> see that so it may be worth the risk for 'BZ.

I'm not convinced that Natalie is really worth as much as it is
presumed she is asking.  It may be different for someone who has
watched WCVB since 1972, but she just doesn't do anything for me.
(Actually, I don't particularly care for any of the talent on 5 right
now.)

-GAWollman


From sean.smyth@yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 13:16:26 2007
From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:16:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <18070.23586.162407.586847@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <704106.678.qm@web58301.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org> wrote:
> I'm not convinced that Natalie is really worth as much as it is
> presumed she is asking.  It may be different for someone who has
> watched WCVB since 1972, but she just doesn't do anything for me.
> (Actually, I don't particularly care for any of the talent on 5 right
> now.)

But as David/Mike (think it was him) mentioned elsewhere, her cache
with the lifelong Bostonian 40-somethings and 50-somethings would
probably turn Channel 4's fortunes relatively quickly. Natalie and Jack
anchoring together would hit it big with that regard.


       
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From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 13:15:26 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:15:26 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
References: <600037.61862.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<e3cc0ad36d3bc67348c51b07276040a1@charter.net>
Message-ID: <00da01c7c4a8$77a2db60$6801a8c0@DESKTOP2>


> Plus, doesn't Hearst operate NECN in conjunction with Comcast?  They're 
> separate entities, but NECN and Channel 5  have shared personnel for 
> awhile now. 

I always wondered why NECN was able to  use ABC News feeds.....


From m_carney@yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 13:41:30 2007
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:41:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Natalie on "Chronicle"
Message-ID: <244655.57998.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Natalie Jacobson will be on "Chronicle" the night
before her departure. From the WCVB web site:

She?s covered popes and presidents. She reported on
Queen Elizabeth?s visit, Boston?s busing crisis, and
the Patriots? Super Bowl championship. Tonight, as
Natalie Jacobson transitions to the next phase of her
storied career, Chronicle salutes her 35-year
contribution to Boston television. Plus, Nat sits down
with Mary Richardson to discuss her plans for the
future and to share some of her favorite moments at WCVB-TV.


 
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From mamros@MIT.EDU  Thu Jul 12 15:53:17 2007
From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:53:17 -0400
Subject: Natalie on "Chronicle"
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:41:30 PDT."
	<244655.57998.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> 
Message-ID: <200707121953.l6CJrHf2027188@no-knife.mit.edu>

>Natalie Jacobson will be on "Chronicle" the night
>before her departure. From the WCVB web site:
>
>She's covered popes and presidents. She reported on
>Queen Elizabeth's visit, Boston's busing crisis, and
>the Patriots' Super Bowl championship. Tonight, as
>Natalie Jacobson transitions to the next phase of her
>storied career, Chronicle salutes her 35-year
>contribution to Boston television. Plus, Nat sits down
>with Mary Richardson to discuss her plans for the
>future and to share some of her favorite moments at WCVB-TV.

Seems that would shoot a major hole in the "Nat's moving to
Channel 4" rumors.  If that were true, why would Channel 5
be giving her a sendoff "salute"?

-Shawn Mamros
E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu

From kvahey@gmail.com  Thu Jul 12 16:27:27 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:27:27 -0400
Subject: Natalie on "Chronicle"
In-Reply-To: <200707121953.l6CJrHf2027188@no-knife.mit.edu>
References: <244655.57998.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<200707121953.l6CJrHf2027188@no-knife.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707121327x17b0945dheffbee49c38cf660@mail.gmail.com>

WCVB has 35 years of Natalie clips in the vault. Might as well milk it
in her last pay period.





On 7/12/07, Shawn Mamros <mamros@mit.edu> wrote:

> Seems that would shoot a major hole in the "Nat's moving to
> Channel 4" rumors.  If that were true, why would Channel 5
> be giving her a sendoff "salute"?
>
> -Shawn Mamros
> E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu
>

From kvahey@gmail.com  Thu Jul 12 15:51:52 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:51:52 -0400
Subject: now this is getting ugly
Message-ID: <4fc429770707121251y278e5594wb1d8a7482589c18d@mail.gmail.com>

from the Herald website

Boston talkmeister Howie Carr just returned to the mic at WRKO (680
AM) - and was forced by his bosses to tell his legions of listeners
that he's not allowed to discuss his plans to jump ship to a rival
station. Before he returned the air, Carr's bosses at Entercom
Communications, the company that owns the AM station, handed him a
letter to read.

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=1010973

From rickajho@rcn.com  Thu Jul 12 18:24:14 2007
From: rickajho@rcn.com (Rick)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:24:14 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net> <004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark>
	<46940213.7080706@billoneill.us>
	<18068.3761.671928.617616@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<4fc429770707110513y355ad8e9ta56b1ce24ad6a11@mail.gmail.com>
	<02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
	<4fc429770707110816h71903ad0pb37a753c65cd1fc0@mail.gmail.com>
	<469591A7.742D204A@rcn.com>
	<7c37a519b366b869728000a9f3a1d8b9@charter.net>
Message-ID: <4696AA0E.67B91E7@rcn.com>

David Tomm wrote:
> 
> I think you are confusing Fox 25 with Channels 38 & 56, which have
> added, dropped and moved newscasts frequently over the last several
> years.  25 has aired a self-produced 10pm newscast for quite some time.
>   David Wade and Maria Stephanos have been doing that newscast together
> longer than most of the other current anchor teams on 4, 5 & 7.  I
> fully expect them to get their share of the 11pm news audience, and 7
> News will most likely take the largest hit.
> 
> Dave Tomm
> "Mike Thomas"

What I recall of Fox 25 news over the years was:

Fox had news at eleven p.m.

Then they changed it to "one hour earlier" as their tag line when they 
moved it to ten p.m.

They had a noon news cast.

Then they dropped noon news coverage.

They started news at six a.m.

Then they moved that to start at five a.m.

Now the 10 p.m. news is moving again.

I don't think that there will be a lot of crossing over from 4, 5 or 7
as if Fox coverage will be somehow that much better than what station
viewers have already picked to watch for 11 p.m. news. I suspect that
there won't be much of a change, and the only people who will migrate
with Fox to the 11 p.m. time slot are the people who already watch Fox
and like the coverage to begin with.

Wondering if Fox will stick with one hour of news with the time slot
change or revert to a "conventional" 30 minute news cast format.

Rick

From hinsdalien@yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 21:15:05 2007
From: hinsdalien@yahoo.com (Doug Bassett)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:15:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707031200i3e982567i4db871fe4bcf5e74@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <415038.23858.qm@web37102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Kevin Vahey <kvahey@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am not sure how well WVEI-FM Easthampton is doing.

WVEI-FM has a decent signal on I-91 NB until you top
that last hill before the VT Welcome Center in
Guilford.  Solid on Route 2 east to around the Erving
Paper mill, where it will occasionally mix with WJYY
(which always seems to be playing a Kelly Clarkson
tune when I'm heading through there).  The signal
becomes basically non-existent east of Orange on 2. 
They seem to have a good number of local advertisers
on board...lots of car dealers. 

Doug Bassett
Brattleboro, VT


       
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From hinsdalien@yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 21:37:13 2007
From: hinsdalien@yahoo.com (Doug Bassett)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:37:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
In-Reply-To: <468B9D49.5848.476855@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <672355.68182.qm@web37110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com> wrote:

> WHMP in Northampton was still broadcasting Red Sox
> games when I was 
> out there in mid-May.  But its satellite station in
> Springfield was 
> not. 

I don't think 1600 was ever a Sox affil., IIRC WHYN
560 was the Sox affil. for Springfield up until
recently.  Both 1240 (Greenfield) and 1400
(Northampton) have had the Sox for going on forever,
and the tradition continues to this day.  I wonder how
long Red Sox listeners (and sponsors) will stay with
these small AMs, when the games are also aired on the
more potent signal of 105.5?  

Doug Bassett
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From dlh@donnahalper.com  Thu Jul 12 22:56:01 2007
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:56:01 -0400
Subject: any of you do any work with the Red Sox? 
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770706210646h59cbde53y47d2aada5ddb28b@mail.gmail.com
 >
References: <4fc429770706210646h59cbde53y47d2aada5ddb28b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070713025605.0CCFF1B4008@relay1.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com>

I need to arrange a tour of Fenway Park for a family friend who is 
mildly mentally retarded and loves baseball.  He was supposed to go 
with my husband and me last night (there was a special tour arranged 
by Historic New England-- very cool event, by the way, with several 
interesting guest speakers, including the guy who does "Only a Game" 
on NPR) but was unable to get there on time --  some people he works 
with evidently think it's amusing give people with mental challenges 
a hard time --  they do this to him frequently...  in this case, they 
knew he had arranged to go to Fenway, so just before he was due to 
get out of work, they dumped a whole bunch of work on him and told 
him he couldn't leave till he finished it... now, you and I might 
have told them to go [Dick Cheney} themselves, but he didn't feel he 
could say no, and by the time he got out of work, he had missed the 
event.  Now he feels really disappointed.  I know the Sox give tours, 
but am not sure how and when, plus I'd like somebody I know to show 
him around.  Anybody got some contacts?  If so, let me know 
off-list.  This is a very good guy who deserves a lot better than he 
got in this situation... Suggestions?  (And if any of you know how to 
get an autographed photo of any player-- that would be a big deal 
too.  I want him to have something that he can take back to work and 
show off to his co-workers who made his life so 
difficult--  something that they don't have and he does...)        


From wollman@bimajority.org  Fri Jul 13 00:38:09 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 00:38:09 -0400
Subject: Olbermann on Jacobson
Message-ID: <18071.433.716683.722896@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

Did anyone else note Keith Olbermann's brief salute to Natalie
Jacobson on this evening's "Countdown"?  According to the Wikipedia
article, Olbermann "briefly worked as a sports anchor at WCVB-TV in
Boston, before heading to Los Angeles to work at KTLA and KCBS."

-GAWollman


From scott@fybush.com  Fri Jul 13 02:05:58 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:05:58 -0400
Subject: Olbermann on Jacobson
In-Reply-To: <18071.433.716683.722896@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <18071.433.716683.722896@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <46971646.7020206@fybush.com>

Garrett Wollman wrote:
> Did anyone else note Keith Olbermann's brief salute to Natalie
> Jacobson on this evening's "Countdown"?  According to the Wikipedia
> article, Olbermann "briefly worked as a sports anchor at WCVB-TV in
> Boston, before heading to Los Angeles to work at KTLA and KCBS."

I'd forgotten about that particular blip in Olbermann's career...and I 
missed Countdown tonight, inasmuch as I was on the road driving home 
from NYC, where there was some sort of trivial format change on the FM 
dial earlier in the day :-)

s

From scott@fybush.com  Fri Jul 13 03:11:59 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:11:59 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
Message-ID: <469725BF.8020606@fybush.com>

I was listening to the Sox game on WTIC for the first half of my long 
drive home tonight, and in addition to the jarring sound of no Joe 
Castiglione (he's taking an extra few days off post-All Star break, 
apparently, and Glenn Geffner can't find where he stashed the stapler in 
the broadcast booth), I noticed a LOT of the WRKO "advertise on the Red 
Sox Radio Network" house ads...sounded like at least one of them every 
inning for much of the game.

Assuming that's really unsold inventory I was hearing, that can't bode 
well for paying off that $15 million a year (or so) that Entercom is 
spending on the rights for the next decade, can it?

One marginally bright spot: whoever was on the board at WTIC tonight was 
a bit faster on the draw than usual, or perhaps Geffner and whatsisname 
are just a little slower than Castiglione with the network ID into each 
break - the "ON WTIC HARTFORD" that 'TIC drops in over the "on the WRKO 
Red Sox Radio Network" was actually timed right for most of the night. 
When Joe C's not on vacation, he usually gets the first word or two (or 
more) of the network ID in before 'TIC steps on it.

(And I won't even get into the WTIC legal that fires right over the 
play-by-play just after the top of the hour, a few seconds after the 
WTIC "V-for-victory" tone fires, also over the play-by-play...)

s

From dlh@donnahalper.com  Fri Jul 13 03:31:02 2007
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:31:02 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <469725BF.8020606@fybush.com>
References: <469725BF.8020606@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <20070713073106.A613F1B4095@relay4.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com>

At 03:11 AM 7/13/2007, Scott Fybush wrote:
>I was listening to the Sox game on WTIC for the first half of my 
>long drive home tonight, and in addition to the jarring sound of no 
>Joe Castiglione (he's taking an extra few days off post-All Star 
>break, apparently, and Glenn Geffner can't find where he stashed the 
>stapler in the broadcast booth), I noticed a LOT of the WRKO 
>"advertise on the Red Sox Radio Network" house ads...sounded like at 
>least one of them every inning for much of the game.

And do we even know why they really got rid of Jerry Trupiano?  Not a 
popular move, from what I still hear. 


From chuckigo@maine.rr.com  Fri Jul 13 06:08:38 2007
From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:08:38 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <469725BF.8020606@fybush.com>
References: <469725BF.8020606@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <c428e19c66dd3.66dd3c428e19c@nyroc.rr.com>

Scott noted:

(snip)>> One marginally bright spot: whoever was on the board at WTIC 
tonight was a bit faster on the draw than usual, or perhaps Geffner 
and whatsisname are just a little slower than Castiglione with the 
network ID into each break - the "ON WTIC HARTFORD" that 'TIC drops in 
over the "on the WRKO Red Sox Radio Network" was actually timed right 
for most of the night. <<

i actually noticed that while listening to WTIC last Saturday evening 
on our trip northward (family vaca in DC).  i did hear one "wrko" that 
slipped thru, but otherwise, they covered those up very nicely.

- -Chuck Igo

From paul@derrynh.net  Fri Jul 13 06:16:11 2007
From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:16:11 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <c428e19c66dd3.66dd3c428e19c@nyroc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <003201c7c536$d6c48e20$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>

Whatshisname...Dave O'Brien

Paul Hopfgarten
Derry NH

-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
chuckigo@maine.rr.com
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:09 AM
To: Scott Fybush
Cc: BRI
Subject: Re: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?

Scott noted:

(snip)>> One marginally bright spot: whoever was on the board at WTIC 
tonight was a bit faster on the draw than usual, or perhaps Geffner 
and whatsisname are just a little slower than Castiglione with the 
network ID into each break - the "ON WTIC HARTFORD" that 'TIC drops in 
over the "on the WRKO Red Sox Radio Network" was actually timed right 
for most of the night. <<

i actually noticed that while listening to WTIC last Saturday evening 
on our trip northward (family vaca in DC).  i did hear one "wrko" that 
slipped thru, but otherwise, they covered those up very nicely.

- -Chuck Igo


From paul@derrynh.net  Fri Jul 13 06:13:08 2007
From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:13:08 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
In-Reply-To: <672355.68182.qm@web37110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c7c536$696bd950$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>

I was driving home via Rte 2 from Albany to Derry NH a couple of weeks ago,
and I think WCRN has the best "overall" Sox signal. VEI-FM was hash for the
most part until I came down to Shelburne Falls. The hills are tough on the
signal through Savoy, Florida, etc. (About where I lost the Yankees on 104.5
from Mechanicsville(?)). Now, east of Greenfield, I agree that the 105.5
signals starts losing it east of Turners Falls area, and really, WCRN was
very strong on 830 even at Turners Falls and was the Sox signal of choice..

Oh...and club EEI should really pursue 107.7/The Pulse for their NH
affiliate.

Paul Hopfgarten
Derry NH

-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
Doug Bassett
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:37 PM
To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org
Subject: Re: WEEI 103.7 signal

--- "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com> wrote:

> WHMP in Northampton was still broadcasting Red Sox
> games when I was 
> out there in mid-May.  But its satellite station in
> Springfield was 
> not. 

I don't think 1600 was ever a Sox affil., IIRC WHYN
560 was the Sox affil. for Springfield up until
recently.  Both 1240 (Greenfield) and 1400
(Northampton) have had the Sox for going on forever,
and the tradition continues to this day.  I wonder how
long Red Sox listeners (and sponsors) will stay with
these small AMs, when the games are also aired on the
more potent signal of 105.5?  

Doug Bassett
Brattleboro, VT


 
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From m_carney@yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 08:50:56 2007
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:50:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Olbermann on Jacobson
In-Reply-To: <46971646.7020206@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <324061.60439.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

He did the 6p and Lee Webb did the 11p in the early
80s, just after Don Gillis retired. Olbermann has
complained in the past that he was upset the station
wasn't located in the city and had to make
arrangements to get out to Needham every day. (What -
he didn't notice when he interviewed?) I guess it
wasn't a pleasant experience.

--- Scott Fybush <scott@fybush.com> wrote:

> Garrett Wollman wrote:
> > Did anyone else note Keith Olbermann's brief
> salute to Natalie
> > Jacobson on this evening's "Countdown"?  According
> to the Wikipedia
> > article, Olbermann "briefly worked as a sports
> anchor at WCVB-TV in
> > Boston, before heading to Los Angeles to work at
> KTLA and KCBS."
> 
> I'd forgotten about that particular blip in
> Olbermann's career...and I 
> missed Countdown tonight, inasmuch as I was on the
> road driving home 
> from NYC, where there was some sort of trivial
> format change on the FM 
> dial earlier in the day :-)
> 
> s
> 



       
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From kvahey@gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 09:16:43 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:16:43 -0400
Subject: Olbermann on Jacobson
In-Reply-To: <324061.60439.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <46971646.7020206@fybush.com>
	<324061.60439.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707130616s6ebd1cd6p220fb85550a6779b@mail.gmail.com>

Around the same time WCVB hired Bob Ryan to do sports and that was a
disaster as well.

Is Don Gillis still alive?

On 7/13/07, Maureen Carney <m_carney@yahoo.com> wrote:
> He did the 6p and Lee Webb did the 11p in the early
> 80s, just after Don Gillis retired. Olbermann has
> complained in the past that he was upset the station
> wasn't located in the city and had to make
> arrangements to get out to Needham every day. (What -
> he didn't notice when he interviewed?) I guess it
> wasn't a pleasant experience.
>
> --- Scott Fybush <scott@fybush.com> wrote:
>
> > Garrett Wollman wrote:
> > > Did anyone else note Keith Olbermann's brief
> > salute to Natalie
> > > Jacobson on this evening's "Countdown"?  According
> > to the Wikipedia
> > > article, Olbermann "briefly worked as a sports
> > anchor at WCVB-TV in
> > > Boston, before heading to Los Angeles to work at
> > KTLA and KCBS."
> >
> > I'd forgotten about that particular blip in
> > Olbermann's career...and I
> > missed Countdown tonight, inasmuch as I was on the
> > road driving home
> > from NYC, where there was some sort of trivial
> > format change on the FM
> > dial earlier in the day :-)
> >
> > s
> >
>
>
>
>
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From kvahey@gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 09:19:47 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:19:47 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <003201c7c536$d6c48e20$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>
References: <c428e19c66dd3.66dd3c428e19c@nyroc.rr.com>
	<003201c7c536$d6c48e20$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707130619q36397f6cjd821e8326ec9f987@mail.gmail.com>

Glenn Geffner came to the Red Sox from San Diego where he was the
radio guy. He had been the Sox PR man but Lucchino wanted him to do
radio. Wolfe wanted no part of him but this year he was forced on them
by the Sox. He is simply terrible, the guys in Pawtucket call a better
game on WHJJ

Trupiano deserved a far better sendoff than what he got.



On 7/13/07, Paul Hopfgarten <paul@derrynh.net> wrote:
> Whatshisname...Dave O'Brien
>
> Paul Hopfgarten
> Derry NH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
> chuckigo@maine.rr.com
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:09 AM
> To: Scott Fybush
> Cc: BRI
> Subject: Re: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
>
> Scott noted:
>
> (snip)>> One marginally bright spot: whoever was on the board at WTIC
> tonight was a bit faster on the draw than usual, or perhaps Geffner
> and whatsisname are just a little slower than Castiglione with the
> network ID into each break - the "ON WTIC HARTFORD" that 'TIC drops in
> over the "on the WRKO Red Sox Radio Network" was actually timed right
> for most of the night. <<
>
> i actually noticed that while listening to WTIC last Saturday evening
> on our trip northward (family vaca in DC).  i did hear one "wrko" that
> slipped thru, but otherwise, they covered those up very nicely.
>
> - -Chuck Igo
>
>

From kvahey@gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 09:51:13 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:51:13 -0400
Subject: suggestions for Entercom
Message-ID: <4fc429770707130651y31a75a90uf54071355d5b97f4@mail.gmail.com>

How do Julie Kahn and Jason Wolfe fix the mess they created?

Start with the Red Sox. Since the move to WRKO was done partly because
680's signal was a little better at night just move WEEI to 680. This
splitting the contract between 2 stations was one of the dumbest moves
in Boston radio history.

Now what to do with 850?  If possible retire the WRKO calls and see if
they can work it out with Sunbeam to get the WHDH-AM calls back and
then rebuild the station from scratch. Put Finnerian on at night, that
would be a better fit for him. Rebuild your news staff.

Wolfe has been considered the golden boy because of WEEI but what has
he really done there? The biggest move he made was dumping Imus and
going with Dennis and Callahan but then didn't have the guts to fire
them after the Metco disaster.

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Fri Jul 13 09:57:23 2007
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:57:23 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
References: <002c01c7c536$696bd950$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>
Message-ID: <002c01c7c555$c14a1be0$19eefea9@dstrassberg>

You were driving during daylight hours, right? At that time, the pattern is
centered at (IIRC) 52 degrees. 52 degrees is pretty much northeast, but the
signal also goes quite far to the northwest and southeast. At night the
pattern centers on about 83 degrees (more or less due east) and narrows
noticeably as well. Moreover, the official nighttime-interference-free
contour is greater than 10 mV/m, although the station is generally
listenable quite a way outside that--as long as you can stand the awful
fades that often make the audio unintelligible. Anyhow, for night games, I
don't think WCRN is very useful at points more than a few miles west of a
north-south line through the transmitter site in Leicester, which is about
10 miles west-northwest of downtown Worcester.

--
Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net
eFax 707-215-6367

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hopfgarten" <paul@derrynh.net>
To: "'Doug Bassett'" <hinsdalien@yahoo.com>;
<boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:13 AM
Subject: RE: WEEI 103.7 signal


> I was driving home via Rte 2 from Albany to Derry NH a couple of weeks
ago,
> and I think WCRN has the best "overall" Sox signal. VEI-FM was hash for
the
> most part until I came down to Shelburne Falls. The hills are tough on the
> signal through Savoy, Florida, etc. (About where I lost the Yankees on
104.5
> from Mechanicsville(?)). Now, east of Greenfield, I agree that the 105.5
> signals starts losing it east of Turners Falls area, and really, WCRN was
> very strong on 830 even at Turners Falls and was the Sox signal of
choice..
>
> Oh...and club EEI should really pursue 107.7/The Pulse for their NH
> affiliate.
>
> Paul Hopfgarten
> Derry NH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf
Of
> Doug Bassett
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:37 PM
> To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org
> Subject: Re: WEEI 103.7 signal
>
> --- "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com> wrote:
>
> > WHMP in Northampton was still broadcasting Red Sox
> > games when I was
> > out there in mid-May.  But its satellite station in
> > Springfield was
> > not.
>
> I don't think 1600 was ever a Sox affil., IIRC WHYN
> 560 was the Sox affil. for Springfield up until
> recently.  Both 1240 (Greenfield) and 1400
> (Northampton) have had the Sox for going on forever,
> and the tradition continues to this day.  I wonder how
> long Red Sox listeners (and sponsors) will stay with
> these small AMs, when the games are also aired on the
> more potent signal of 105.5?
>
> Doug Bassett
> Brattleboro, VT
>
>
>
>
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From revdoug1@verizon.net  Fri Jul 13 10:01:06 2007
From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:01:06 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
References: <002c01c7c536$696bd950$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>
Message-ID: <039e01c7c556$42be1000$6501a8c0@pastor2>

Interesting.  What is WCRN's directional pattern?  When it upped to 50,000
watts, I thought perhaps we might be able to get the signal up into at least
south central Maine, but no cigar.  It comes in, but faintly.

-Doug

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Hopfgarten" <paul@derrynh.net>
To: "'Doug Bassett'" <hinsdalien@yahoo.com>;
<boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:13 AM
Subject: RE: WEEI 103.7 signal


> I was driving home via Rte 2 from Albany to Derry NH a couple of weeks
ago,
> and I think WCRN has the best "overall" Sox signal. VEI-FM was hash for
the
> most part until I came down to Shelburne Falls. The hills are tough on the
> signal through Savoy, Florida, etc. (About where I lost the Yankees on
104.5
> from Mechanicsville(?)). Now, east of Greenfield, I agree that the 105.5
> signals starts losing it east of Turners Falls area, and really, WCRN was
> very strong on 830 even at Turners Falls and was the Sox signal of
choice..
>
> Oh...and club EEI should really pursue 107.7/The Pulse for their NH
> affiliate.
>
> Paul Hopfgarten
> Derry NH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf
Of
> Doug Bassett
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:37 PM
> To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org
> Subject: Re: WEEI 103.7 signal
>
> --- "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com> wrote:
>
> > WHMP in Northampton was still broadcasting Red Sox
> > games when I was
> > out there in mid-May.  But its satellite station in
> > Springfield was
> > not.
>
> I don't think 1600 was ever a Sox affil., IIRC WHYN
> 560 was the Sox affil. for Springfield up until
> recently.  Both 1240 (Greenfield) and 1400
> (Northampton) have had the Sox for going on forever,
> and the tradition continues to this day.  I wonder how
> long Red Sox listeners (and sponsors) will stay with
> these small AMs, when the games are also aired on the
> more potent signal of 105.5?
>
> Doug Bassett
> Brattleboro, VT
>
>
>
>
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From dan.strassberg@att.net  Fri Jul 13 10:31:51 2007
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:31:51 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
References: <002c01c7c536$696bd950$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>
	<039e01c7c556$42be1000$6501a8c0@pastor2>
Message-ID: <003b01c7c55a$91e0b620$19eefea9@dstrassberg>

The day pattern (two towers) is a modified cardioid aimed northeast. The
night pattern (three towers) is more-or-less circular (with the circle
tangent to the transmitter site and the diameter pretty much on a
west-to-east line through the transmitter site). The combination of the
night pattern being somewhat narrower than the day pattern and the night
pattern being rotated clockwise about 30 degrees with respect to the day
pattern is probably the major cause of the signal in Maine at night not
being as strong as the day signal. But the higher level of interference at
night probably also helps to make the night signal uncopyable there.

I also wonder whether WCRN is yet running the full 50 kW at night. I'm
almost certain that the night power is higher than the former 5 kW, but
where I live, a 50-kW night signal should be marginally louder than the day
signal. At the sunset pattern change, I could believe that WCRN becomes
weaker--not louder, but that could all be in my imagination. According to
the frequently inaccurate CDBS, WCRN is still not licensed for 50 kW at
night. If that's so (that is, if WCRN is still operating under program-test
authority at night), it might be running the new three-tower pattern with
less than 50 kW. The FCC often requires AMs running under program-test
authority to use 1/4 of the power specified in the CP. In WCRN's case, that
would be 12.5 kW. 25 kW is another possibility. I could believe that the
signal I'm hearing is 25 kW and not 50 kW--but as I said, it could all be in
my imagination.

--
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Drown" <revdoug1@verizon.net>
To: <paul@derrynh.net>; "'Doug Bassett'" <hinsdalien@yahoo.com>;
<boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: WEEI 103.7 signal


> Interesting.  What is WCRN's directional pattern?  When it upped to 50,000
> watts, I thought perhaps we might be able to get the signal up into at
least
> south central Maine, but no cigar.  It comes in, but faintly.
>
> -Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hopfgarten" <paul@derrynh.net>
> To: "'Doug Bassett'" <hinsdalien@yahoo.com>;
> <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:13 AM
> Subject: RE: WEEI 103.7 signal
>
>
> > I was driving home via Rte 2 from Albany to Derry NH a couple of weeks
> ago,
> > and I think WCRN has the best "overall" Sox signal. VEI-FM was hash for
> the
> > most part until I came down to Shelburne Falls. The hills are tough on
the
> > signal through Savoy, Florida, etc. (About where I lost the Yankees on
> 104.5
> > from Mechanicsville(?)). Now, east of Greenfield, I agree that the 105.5
> > signals starts losing it east of Turners Falls area, and really, WCRN
was
> > very strong on 830 even at Turners Falls and was the Sox signal of
> choice..
> >
> > Oh...and club EEI should really pursue 107.7/The Pulse for their NH
> > affiliate.
> >
> > Paul Hopfgarten
> > Derry NH
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
> > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf
> Of
> > Doug Bassett
> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:37 PM
> > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org
> > Subject: Re: WEEI 103.7 signal
> >
> > --- "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com> wrote:
> >
> > > WHMP in Northampton was still broadcasting Red Sox
> > > games when I was
> > > out there in mid-May.  But its satellite station in
> > > Springfield was
> > > not.
> >
> > I don't think 1600 was ever a Sox affil., IIRC WHYN
> > 560 was the Sox affil. for Springfield up until
> > recently.  Both 1240 (Greenfield) and 1400
> > (Northampton) have had the Sox for going on forever,
> > and the tradition continues to this day.  I wonder how
> > long Red Sox listeners (and sponsors) will stay with
> > these small AMs, when the games are also aired on the
> > more potent signal of 105.5?
> >
> > Doug Bassett
> > Brattleboro, VT
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> panel
> > and lay it on us.
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> >
>




From dlh@donnahalper.com  Fri Jul 13 12:56:48 2007
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:56:48 -0400
Subject: Olbermann on Jacobson
In-Reply-To: <324061.60439.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <46971646.7020206@fybush.com>
	<324061.60439.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20070713165652.8CADF1B48FD@relay6.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com>

At 08:50 AM 7/13/2007, Maureen Carney wrote:
>He did the 6p and Lee Webb did the 11p in the early
>80s, just after Don Gillis retired. Olbermann has
>complained in the past that he was upset the station
>wasn't located in the city and had to make
>arrangements to get out to Needham every day.

Not defending Keith, even though he is my future husband <gg>, but he 
can't drive due to his vision problems.  To this day, he can't 
drive.  He may have thought the arrangements were gonna be made for 
him and then it turned out things got more complicated than he 
expected.  By his own admission, he was a lot harder to get along 
with back then.  He's sort of mellowed with age, plus getting good 
ratings and lots of positive press for Countdown" has helped.  But 
MSNBC makes sure he has a way to get to his gigs or he can't go. 


From m_carney@yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 13:08:02 2007
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:08:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Olbermann on Jacobson
In-Reply-To: <20070713165652.8CADF1B48FD@relay6.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <61262.74100.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I knew he had depth perception issues and couldn't
drive. I do remember him doing a lot of live shots
from Fenway & the Garden, perhaps as a way to
accomodate Keith and keep him out of the studio.

--- Donna Halper <dlh@donnahalper.com> wrote:

> At 08:50 AM 7/13/2007, Maureen Carney wrote:
> >He did the 6p and Lee Webb did the 11p in the early
> >80s, just after Don Gillis retired. Olbermann has
> >complained in the past that he was upset the
> station
> >wasn't located in the city and had to make
> >arrangements to get out to Needham every day.
> 
> Not defending Keith, even though he is my future
> husband <gg>, but he 
> can't drive due to his vision problems.  To this
> day, he can't 
> drive.  He may have thought the arrangements were
> gonna be made for 
> him and then it turned out things got more
> complicated than he 
> expected.  By his own admission, he was a lot harder
> to get along 
> with back then.  He's sort of mellowed with age,
> plus getting good 
> ratings and lots of positive press for Countdown"
> has helped.  But 
> MSNBC makes sure he has a way to get to his gigs or
> he can't go. 
> 
> 



       
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From lglavin@mail.com  Fri Jul 13 13:06:48 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:06:48 -0500
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
Message-ID: <20070713170648.6DB99478077@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com>

>----- Original Message -----
>From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com
>To: "Scott Fybush" 
>Subject: Re: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
>Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:08:38 -0400
>Scott noted:
>(snip)>> One marginally bright spot: whoever was on the board at WTIC
>tonight was a bit faster on the draw than usual, or perhaps Geffner
>and whatsisname are just a little slower than Castiglione with the
>network ID into each break - the "ON WTIC HARTFORD" that 'TIC drops in
>over the "on the WRKO Red Sox Radio Network" was actually timed right
>for most of the night. <<
>i actually noticed that while listening to WTIC last Saturday evening
(>on our trip northward (family vaca in DC). i did hear one "wrko" that
>slipped thru, but otherwise, they covered those up very nicely.
>- -Chuck Igo

Can somebody explain to me why the affiliates don't INSIST that the originating
station not use their call letters before the station break? It must not be
required or WTIC wouldn't talk over the WRKO calls (do they use WEEI on Wednesdays?).
in some cases, WRKO may be in the driver's seat, able to tell WGIR to go screw
and then flip the Sox to 1250....but in other situations, the affiliate may
have the game boy because IT's the only signal in a particular market.
On the Met broadcasts, they don't say "this is the WQXR-Metropolitan Opera Network!)



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From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 13:40:07 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:40:07 -0400
Subject: Pahigian
Message-ID: <012301c7c574$ddb12200$6801a8c0@DESKTOP2>

I was reading the complaint that Howie Carr's lawyers drew up charging WRKO 
with interfering with his right to make his deal with WTKK.  (It was made 
available on the BostonHerald.com website.)

At the bottom of the complaint is a "cc:" to Howie Carr...and Carey 
Pahigian.

Just curious....what does Carey Pahigian have to do with this whole episode?



From sean.smyth@yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 13:47:51 2007
From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:47:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707130619q36397f6cjd821e8326ec9f987@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62426.99126.qm@web58301.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Kevin Vahey <kvahey@gmail.com> wrote:
> Glenn Geffner came to the Red Sox from San Diego where he was the
> radio guy. He had been the Sox PR man but Lucchino wanted him to do
> radio. Wolfe wanted no part of him but this year he was forced on
> them
> by the Sox. He is simply terrible, the guys in Pawtucket call a
> better
> game on WHJJ
> 
> Trupiano deserved a far better sendoff than what he got.

As Kevin said, it was a Lucchino-driven move. Personally, I don't miss
Trupiano's over-the-top calls at all. I wish Dave O'Brien were
available more for radio purposes, but I also realize that's the nature
of the beast when you've hired a guy that talented.

Geffner's MIA nature when Castiglione is handling play-by-play has made
me appreciate Joe's work more this year, and I've never been a big
Castiglione fan.


       
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From sean.smyth@yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 13:54:45 2007
From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:54:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Pahigian
In-Reply-To: <012301c7c574$ddb12200$6801a8c0@DESKTOP2>
Message-ID: <660301.996.qm@web58301.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Don A <donald_astelle@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I was reading the complaint that Howie Carr's lawyers drew up
> charging WRKO 
> with interfering with his right to make his deal with WTKK.  (It was
> made 
> available on the BostonHerald.com website.)
> 
> At the bottom of the complaint is a "cc:" to Howie Carr...and Carey 
> Pahigian.
> 
> Just curious....what does Carey Pahigian have to do with this whole
> episode?

One of his stations airs Carr's show.


 
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From rogerkirk@ttlc.net  Fri Jul 13 14:45:03 2007
From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:45:03 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <20070713170648.6DB99478077@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070713170648.6DB99478077@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <4697C82F.8020704@ttlc.net>

Laurence from Methuen asked:

 >Can somebody explain to me why the affiliates don't INSIST that the 
originating station not use their call letters
 >before the station break?

Probably because WRKO insists that their call letters be used as much as 
possible i.e. every 15 seconds - lest one listener somewhere, somehow 
forget what station he's listening to.  It would appear that radio 
assumes that their listeners' attention span is equal to that of a goldfish.

I've heard this inane kind repetition carried to an extreme on WBZ.  An 
example:

<live>... that's WBZ Newsradio-1030's Pat Desmarais - Saturday nights on 
WBZ Newsradio 1030.  WBZ News time is 8.24. <pre-recorded promo by 
Anthony Silva> New England is Sold on WBZ Newsradio 1030 Everyday!

and on and on...






From paul@derrynh.net  Fri Jul 13 14:58:28 2007
From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:58:28 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
In-Reply-To: <002c01c7c555$c14a1be0$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
Message-ID: <004601c7c57f$cc94f0e0$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>

Yes....About 6PM at Greenfield IIRC

Paul Hopfgarten
Derry NH

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Strassberg [mailto:dan.strassberg@att.net] 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:57 AM
To: paul@derrynh.net; Boston Radio Interest
Subject: Re: WEEI 103.7 signal

You were driving during daylight hours, right? At that time, the pattern is
centered at (IIRC) 52 degrees. 52 degrees is pretty much northeast, but the
signal also goes quite far to the northwest and southeast. At night the
pattern centers on about 83 degrees (more or less due east) and narrows
noticeably as well. Moreover, the official nighttime-interference-free
contour is greater than 10 mV/m, although the station is generally
listenable quite a way outside that--as long as you can stand the awful
fades that often make the audio unintelligible. Anyhow, for night games, I
don't think WCRN is very useful at points more than a few miles west of a
north-south line through the transmitter site in Leicester, which is about
10 miles west-northwest of downtown Worcester.

--
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eFax 707-215-6367

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hopfgarten" <paul@derrynh.net>
To: "'Doug Bassett'" <hinsdalien@yahoo.com>;
<boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:13 AM
Subject: RE: WEEI 103.7 signal


> I was driving home via Rte 2 from Albany to Derry NH a couple of weeks
ago,
> and I think WCRN has the best "overall" Sox signal. VEI-FM was hash for
the
> most part until I came down to Shelburne Falls. The hills are tough on the
> signal through Savoy, Florida, etc. (About where I lost the Yankees on
104.5
> from Mechanicsville(?)). Now, east of Greenfield, I agree that the 105.5
> signals starts losing it east of Turners Falls area, and really, WCRN was
> very strong on 830 even at Turners Falls and was the Sox signal of
choice..
>
> Oh...and club EEI should really pursue 107.7/The Pulse for their NH
> affiliate.
>
> Paul Hopfgarten
> Derry NH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf
Of
> Doug Bassett
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:37 PM
> To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org
> Subject: Re: WEEI 103.7 signal
>
> --- "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com> wrote:
>
> > WHMP in Northampton was still broadcasting Red Sox
> > games when I was
> > out there in mid-May.  But its satellite station in
> > Springfield was
> > not.
>
> I don't think 1600 was ever a Sox affil., IIRC WHYN
> 560 was the Sox affil. for Springfield up until
> recently.  Both 1240 (Greenfield) and 1400
> (Northampton) have had the Sox for going on forever,
> and the tradition continues to this day.  I wonder how
> long Red Sox listeners (and sponsors) will stay with
> these small AMs, when the games are also aired on the
> more potent signal of 105.5?
>
> Doug Bassett
> Brattleboro, VT
>
>
>
>
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From sid@wrko.com  Fri Jul 13 14:57:43 2007
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:57:43 -0600
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
Message-ID: <s69776d7.083@entbalms2.entercom.com>

>>It would appear that radio assumes that their listeners' attention
span is equal to that of a goldfish.<<

Yes, we do...and with very good reason.  Getting listeners to remember
who you are is an uphill climb, and if you think I'm kidding, you should
see the diaries that some Arbitron panel participants fill out.  It's
amazing that stations get any listening credits at all, given the
condition of some diaries I've seen.  Further, the available research
says that Arbitron diaries are often filled out at the end of the day,
not while the listening is going on, so recall of call signs, dial
positions and/or positioning statements is of prime importance.  The PPM
may make this a moot point once it gets into every market, but for now
radio stations have to drill it home constantly.  Most listeners are
*not* radio geeks who make the same associations that we on this list
make.



Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF
WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Boston MA  02135-2040
Phone: 617-779-5369
Fax: 617-779-5379
E-Mail: sid@wrko.com

From paul@derrynh.net  Fri Jul 13 15:08:18 2007
From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:08:18 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <20070713170648.6DB99478077@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <004701c7c581$2c9f29f0$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>

Yes, they DO call it the WEEI Red Sox Radio Network on Wednesdays.

But the Patriots are on the WBCN Rock Radio Network, so it's not like
RKO/EEI is doing something so unusual...

(WTPL, especially with the Pats, will have board ops that sometimes lets all
the Boston station content through even though it's quite clear to me (and
I'm not even in the business) that the stop set is designed for local adds
on affiliates

Paul Hopfgarten
Derry NH

(BTW: Don't get me wrong, I like listening to WTPL...)

-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
Laurence Glavin
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 1:07 PM
To: chuckigo@maine.rr.com; Scott Fybush
Cc: BRI
Subject: Re: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?

>----- Original Message -----
>From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com
>To: "Scott Fybush" 
>Subject: Re: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
>Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:08:38 -0400
>Scott noted:
>(snip)>> One marginally bright spot: whoever was on the board at WTIC
>tonight was a bit faster on the draw than usual, or perhaps Geffner
>and whatsisname are just a little slower than Castiglione with the
>network ID into each break - the "ON WTIC HARTFORD" that 'TIC drops in
>over the "on the WRKO Red Sox Radio Network" was actually timed right
>for most of the night. <<
>i actually noticed that while listening to WTIC last Saturday evening
(>on our trip northward (family vaca in DC). i did hear one "wrko" that
>slipped thru, but otherwise, they covered those up very nicely.
>- -Chuck Igo

Can somebody explain to me why the affiliates don't INSIST that the
originating
station not use their call letters before the station break? It must not be
required or WTIC wouldn't talk over the WRKO calls (do they use WEEI on
Wednesdays?).
in some cases, WRKO may be in the driver's seat, able to tell WGIR to go
screw
and then flip the Sox to 1250....but in other situations, the affiliate may
have the game boy because IT's the only signal in a particular market.
On the Met broadcasts, they don't say "this is the WQXR-Metropolitan Opera
Network!)



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From wollman@bimajority.org  Fri Jul 13 15:09:46 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:09:46 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <s69776d7.083@entbalms2.entercom.com>
References: <s69776d7.083@entbalms2.entercom.com>
Message-ID: <18071.52730.576101.902726@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:57:43 -0600, "Sid Schweiger" <sid@wrko.com> said:

> Yes, we do...and with very good reason.  Getting listeners to remember
> who you are is an uphill climb, and if you think I'm kidding, you should
> see the diaries that some Arbitron panel participants fill out.

I am told that WBZ gets a good deal of credit for other stations'
listeners this way.  People are convinced they were listening to WBZ,
because they repeat the calls so often, even when they were actually
listening to Magic.

-GAWollman


From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 15:11:21 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:11:21 -0400
Subject: Sean P. Bucci was at one time a disc jockey in the Boston area...
Message-ID: <017a01c7c581$b60ee130$6801a8c0@DESKTOP2>

Saw this online in the news....and one line caught my attention:

"Sean P. Bucci was at one time a disc jockey in the Boston area"

Anyone know who this is...?

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http://plus.eagletribune.com/cgi-bin/searchstory.pl?fzgpmzbzbtltmvf08090705060402O3010305+fzgpmzbzbtltmvf0809070506040203010305+fzgpmzbzbtltmvf08090705060402O3010305+fn-fn-fn-northreadinhguy.jb-20070712-fn+e/archive/200707.t+bucci+page%3D0

A North Reading man described as a "large-scale" marijuana dealer yesterday 
received a 12-year federal prison sentence and was ordered to forfeit his 
home, boat, sports utility vehicle and $35,000 in his bank account.

Sean P. Bucci, 34, of 23 Marshall St. in North Reading, was sentenced in 
federal court in Boston after he was found guilty earlier this year of drug 
charges, money laundering and tax evasion. A jury had returned the verdict 
following a nine-day trial.

Bucci was at one time a disc jockey in the Boston area, and is also known as 
the founder of "whosarat.com," a Web site claiming to identify more than 
4,000 informants and undercover agents.

Bucci started the site in 2004, after his arrest on the marijuana-dealing 
charges. It began with a few dozen profiles, but he has since grown it into 
a large database of mug shots and court papers.

The site was still up and running - and offering a $7.99, seven-day trial 
membership - yesterday, just hours after Bucci was given his prison 
sentence.

According to the U.S. Attorney's Office, Bucci sold thousands of pounds of 
marijuana out of his home from the late 1990s to 2003. At the same time, he 
laundered hundreds of thousands of dollars through various bank accounts 
owned by him and his mother.

Bucci used the money he earned from the marijuana business to buy real 
estate, vehicles, his boat and gambling trips to Aruba.

The jury had found him guilty of 16 counts of conspiracy to possess more 
than 2,200 pounds of marijuana with the intent to distribute; possession of 
more than 220 pounds of marijuana with the intent to distribute; conspiracy 
to commit money laundering; money laundering; and tax evasion.

The jury also returned a judgment of forfeiture against Bucci, including a 
general judgment against him of $2.7 million, and ordered him to forfeit his 
North Reading house, boat, the money in his bank account and a 2002 
Chevrolet Avalanche SUV.

His prison sentence is to be followed by five years of probation.


From rogerkirk@ttlc.net  Fri Jul 13 15:14:31 2007
From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:14:31 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <s69776d7.083@entbalms2.entercom.com>
References: <s69776d7.083@entbalms2.entercom.com>
Message-ID: <4697CF17.4000501@ttlc.net>

Let's invert the equation.  Any possibility that the listener hears the 
call letters so many times that it becomes noise: tuned-out and 
non-memorable?

Sid Schweiger wrote:
>>> It would appear that radio assumes that their listeners' attention
>>>       
> span is equal to that of a goldfish.<<
>
> Yes, we do...and with very good reason.  Getting listeners to remember
> who you are is an uphill climb, and if you think I'm kidding, you should
> see the diaries that some Arbitron panel participants fill out.  It's
> amazing that stations get any listening credits at all, given the
> condition of some diaries I've seen.  Further, the available research
> says that Arbitron diaries are often filled out at the end of the day,
> not while the listening is going on, so recall of call signs, dial
> positions and/or positioning statements is of prime importance.  The PPM
> may make this a moot point once it gets into every market, but for now
> radio stations have to drill it home constantly.  Most listeners are
> *not* radio geeks who make the same associations that we on this list
> make.
>
>
>
> Sid Schweiger
> IT Manager, Entercom New England
> WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF
> WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM
> 20 Guest St / 3d Floor
> Boston MA  02135-2040
> Phone: 617-779-5369
> Fax: 617-779-5379
> E-Mail: sid@wrko.com
>
>
>
>   


From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 15:13:10 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:13:10 -0400
Subject: Pahigian
References: <660301.996.qm@web58301.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <017f01c7c581$dea2c210$6801a8c0@DESKTOP2>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Smyth" <sean.smyth@yahoo.com>
To: "Don A" <donald_astelle@yahoo.com>; "BRI" 
<boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: Pahigian


> Don A <donald_astelle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I was reading the complaint that Howie Carr's lawyers drew up
>> charging WRKO
>> with interfering with his right to make his deal with WTKK.  (It was
>> made
>> available on the BostonHerald.com website.)
>>
>> At the bottom of the complaint is a "cc:" to Howie Carr...and Carey
>> Pahigian.
>>
>> Just curious....what does Carey Pahigian have to do with this whole
>> Howie Carr episode?
>
> One of his stations airs Carr's show.

That's it?

His show airs on many other stations too....and they weren't cc'd.


From sid@wrko.com  Fri Jul 13 15:16:35 2007
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:16:35 -0600
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
Message-ID: <s6977b4a.024@entbalms2.entercom.com>

>>Let's invert the equation.  Any possibility that the listener hears
the 
call letters so many times that it becomes noise: tuned-out and 
non-memorable?<<

Consider this:  The late Rick Sklar once calculated that WABC mentioned
its call sign at least 2 *billion* times each week.  He had 20+ shares
in a market with 60 other stations reporting to the ratings services.

Cliff's Notes:  There's no such thing as "too often."



Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF
WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Boston MA  02135-2040
Phone: 617-779-5369
Fax: 617-779-5379
E-Mail: sid@wrko.com

From paul@derrynh.net  Fri Jul 13 15:19:47 2007
From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:19:47 -0400
Subject: Sean P. Bucci was at one time a disc jockey in the Boston area...
In-Reply-To: <017a01c7c581$b60ee130$6801a8c0@DESKTOP2>
Message-ID: <004901c7c582$c6ffed30$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>

Maybe they mean like a wedding DJ?

Paul Hopfgarten
Derry NH

-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
Don A
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 3:11 PM
To: BRI
Subject: Sean P. Bucci was at one time a disc jockey in the Boston area...

Saw this online in the news....and one line caught my attention:

"Sean P. Bucci was at one time a disc jockey in the Boston area"

Anyone know who this is...?

-----------------------------------

Founder of anti-police Web site sentenced to 12 years for marijuana-dealing
http://plus.eagletribune.com/cgi-bin/searchstory.pl?fzgpmzbzbtltmvf080907050
60402O3010305+fzgpmzbzbtltmvf0809070506040203010305+fzgpmzbzbtltmvf080907050
60402O3010305+fn-fn-fn-northreadinhguy.jb-20070712-fn+e/archive/200707.t+buc
ci+page%3D0

A North Reading man described as a "large-scale" marijuana dealer yesterday 
received a 12-year federal prison sentence and was ordered to forfeit his 
home, boat, sports utility vehicle and $35,000 in his bank account.

Sean P. Bucci, 34, of 23 Marshall St. in North Reading, was sentenced in 
federal court in Boston after he was found guilty earlier this year of drug 
charges, money laundering and tax evasion. A jury had returned the verdict 
following a nine-day trial.

Bucci was at one time a disc jockey in the Boston area, and is also known as

the founder of "whosarat.com," a Web site claiming to identify more than 
4,000 informants and undercover agents.

Bucci started the site in 2004, after his arrest on the marijuana-dealing 
charges. It began with a few dozen profiles, but he has since grown it into 
a large database of mug shots and court papers.

The site was still up and running - and offering a $7.99, seven-day trial 
membership - yesterday, just hours after Bucci was given his prison 
sentence.

According to the U.S. Attorney's Office, Bucci sold thousands of pounds of 
marijuana out of his home from the late 1990s to 2003. At the same time, he 
laundered hundreds of thousands of dollars through various bank accounts 
owned by him and his mother.

Bucci used the money he earned from the marijuana business to buy real 
estate, vehicles, his boat and gambling trips to Aruba.

The jury had found him guilty of 16 counts of conspiracy to possess more 
than 2,200 pounds of marijuana with the intent to distribute; possession of 
more than 220 pounds of marijuana with the intent to distribute; conspiracy 
to commit money laundering; money laundering; and tax evasion.

The jury also returned a judgment of forfeiture against Bucci, including a 
general judgment against him of $2.7 million, and ordered him to forfeit his

North Reading house, boat, the money in his bank account and a 2002 
Chevrolet Avalanche SUV.

His prison sentence is to be followed by five years of probation.


From m_carney@yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 15:25:59 2007
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:25:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <18071.52730.576101.902726@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <193681.70717.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Funny since 106.7 used to be WBZ-FM! Anyway, when I
was working for WSRO and Alex Langer was getting ready
to put 1060 on I was told that it was hoped that being
near 1030 would get listeners to 1060 because people
would be confused and tune in by mistake.

--- Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org> wrote:

> <<On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:57:43 -0600, "Sid
> Schweiger" <sid@wrko.com> said:
> 
> > Yes, we do...and with very good reason.  Getting
> listeners to remember
> > who you are is an uphill climb, and if you think
> I'm kidding, you should
> > see the diaries that some Arbitron panel
> participants fill out.
> 
> I am told that WBZ gets a good deal of credit for
> other stations'
> listeners this way.  People are convinced they were
> listening to WBZ,
> because they repeat the calls so often, even when
> they were actually
> listening to Magic.
> 
> -GAWollman
> 
> 



 
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From elipolo@earthlink.net  Fri Jul 13 15:37:00 2007
From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:37:00 -0400
Subject: Sean P. Bucci was at one time a disc jockey in the Boston area...
Message-ID: <C2BD4C9B.2C1C%elipolo@earthlink.net>

I don't know of anyone by that name, but from what I've found
online, it looks like he was a mobile (nightclubs, functions,
etc...) DJ, not an on-air radio DJ.

EP


> > From: "Don A" <donald_astelle@yahoo.com>
> To: "BRI" <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:11:21 -0400
> Subject: Sean P. Bucci was at one time a disc jockey in the Boston
> area...
> 
> Saw this online in the news....and one line caught my attention:
> 
> "Sean P. Bucci was at one time a disc jockey in the Boston area"
> 
> Anyone know who this is...?


From wollman@bimajority.org  Fri Jul 13 15:32:18 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:32:18 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <s6977b4a.024@entbalms2.entercom.com>
References: <s6977b4a.024@entbalms2.entercom.com>
Message-ID: <18071.54082.341496.792549@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:16:35 -0600, "Sid Schweiger" <sid@wrko.com> said:

> Consider this:  The late Rick Sklar once calculated that WABC mentioned
> its call sign at least 2 *billion* times each week.

That would involve repeating the callsign more than 3,300 times per
*second*.  I doubt it.  Even two million times a week would be
impossible.  With an average song length of 2-1/2 minutes, jingling
between every song would only be four thousand times a week.

An entire year is only about 3 million seconds.

-GAWollman


From sid@wrko.com  Fri Jul 13 15:38:04 2007
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:38:04 -0600
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
Message-ID: <s697804d.003@entbalms2.entercom.com>

>>> Consider this:  The late Rick Sklar once calculated that WABC
mentioned
> its call sign at least 2 *billion* times each week.

That would involve repeating the callsign more than 3,300 times per
*second*.<<

That's what I get for multitasking on a Friday, on four hours sleep. 
Two *million* is probably more like it.



Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF
WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Boston MA  02135-2040
Phone: 617-779-5369
Fax: 617-779-5379
E-Mail: sid@wrko.com

From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 15:44:05 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:44:05 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
References: <s6977b4a.024@entbalms2.entercom.com>
	<18071.54082.341496.792549@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <01a301c7c586$3224f1c0$6801a8c0@DESKTOP2>




> <<On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:16:35 -0600, "Sid Schweiger" <sid@wrko.com> said:
>
>> Consider this:  The late Rick Sklar once calculated that WABC mentioned
>> its call sign at least 2 *billion* times each week.
>
>From: "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org>
>
> That would involve repeating the callsign more than 3,300 times per
> *second*.  I doubt it.


Well, you know what they say....

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story!


From paul@derrynh.net  Fri Jul 13 15:18:43 2007
From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:18:43 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <18071.52730.576101.902726@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <004801c7c582$a10a0fc0$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>

BZ for Magic? Ironic considering 106.7 was BZ-FM back in the day (when I
listened to that frequency on a regular basis).

But come on....I can see BZ for RKO, or even TKK getting swapped, but BZ for
Magic? Gee...I would think WBOS would then get higher ratings because people
would think...Boston Station...and write BOS in the diary...especially if
they're heading to Logan in the near future....

Paul Hopfgarten
Derry NH

-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
Garrett Wollman
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 3:10 PM
To: Sid Schweiger
Cc: BRI
Subject: Re: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?

<<On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:57:43 -0600, "Sid Schweiger" <sid@wrko.com> said:

> Yes, we do...and with very good reason.  Getting listeners to remember
> who you are is an uphill climb, and if you think I'm kidding, you should
> see the diaries that some Arbitron panel participants fill out.

I am told that WBZ gets a good deal of credit for other stations'
listeners this way.  People are convinced they were listening to WBZ,
because they repeat the calls so often, even when they were actually
listening to Magic.

-GAWollman


From kvahey@gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 10:09:06 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:09:06 -0400
Subject: WEEI 103.7 signal
In-Reply-To: <039e01c7c556$42be1000$6501a8c0@pastor2>
References: <002c01c7c536$696bd950$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>
	<039e01c7c556$42be1000$6501a8c0@pastor2>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707130709h7737799aq23681dbcf60339a0@mail.gmail.com>

decent day pattern
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WCRN&service=AM&status=L&hours=D

night it does best in outer Metro-West ( which until now was alaways a
black hole for a Red Sox signal )
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WCRN&service=AM&status=L&hours=N

On 7/13/07, Doug Drown <revdoug1@verizon.net> wrote:
> Interesting.  What is WCRN's directional pattern?  When it upped to 50,000
> watts, I thought perhaps we might be able to get the signal up into at least
> south central Maine, but no cigar.  It comes in, but faintly.
>
> -Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hopfgarten" <paul@derrynh.net>
> To: "'Doug Bassett'" <hinsdalien@yahoo.com>;
> <boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:13 AM
> Subject: RE: WEEI 103.7 signal
>
>
> > I was driving home via Rte 2 from Albany to Derry NH a couple of weeks
> ago,
> > and I think WCRN has the best "overall" Sox signal. VEI-FM was hash for
> the
> > most part until I came down to Shelburne Falls. The hills are tough on the
> > signal through Savoy, Florida, etc. (About where I lost the Yankees on
> 104.5
> > from Mechanicsville(?)). Now, east of Greenfield, I agree that the 105.5
> > signals starts losing it east of Turners Falls area, and really, WCRN was
> > very strong on 830 even at Turners Falls and was the Sox signal of
> choice..
> >
> > Oh...and club EEI should really pursue 107.7/The Pulse for their NH
> > affiliate.
> >
> > Paul Hopfgarten
> > Derry NH
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
> > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf
> Of
> > Doug Bassett
> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:37 PM
> > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org
> > Subject: Re: WEEI 103.7 signal
> >
> > --- "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com> wrote:
> >
> > > WHMP in Northampton was still broadcasting Red Sox
> > > games when I was
> > > out there in mid-May.  But its satellite station in
> > > Springfield was
> > > not.
> >
> > I don't think 1600 was ever a Sox affil., IIRC WHYN
> > 560 was the Sox affil. for Springfield up until
> > recently.  Both 1240 (Greenfield) and 1400
> > (Northampton) have had the Sox for going on forever,
> > and the tradition continues to this day.  I wonder how
> > long Red Sox listeners (and sponsors) will stay with
> > these small AMs, when the games are also aired on the
> > more potent signal of 105.5?
> >
> > Doug Bassett
> > Brattleboro, VT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> > ________
> > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect.  Join Yahoo!'s user
> panel
> > and lay it on us.
> > http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
> >
>
>

From nostaticatall@charter.net  Fri Jul 13 16:24:33 2007
From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:24:33 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <62426.99126.qm@web58301.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <62426.99126.qm@web58301.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b2743f9739490bfcab529a3882e4cb6c@charter.net>

I too was not a big Trupiano fan.  His homerun calls sounded exactly 
the same each time.  Plus, he'd go into run-on sentences during major 
action, which was impossible to cut up for sound bytes.  He seemed like 
a nice enough guy..I met him at an affiliates luncheon at Fenway the 
season he started with the Sox, but his calls were robotic at best.

The fact that the Sox hired O'Brien and Geffner to replace Trupiano is 
a sign that Castiglione may be done after this year.  O'Brien may be 
finishing up his commitments with ESPN this season in preparation to be 
the main play-by-play voice in 2008.  While Castiglione's voice leaves 
something to be desired, his content and longevity have made him a 
mainstay for Red Sox Nation.  I'm sure he would not want to give up 
primary p-b-p duties to stay in the booth.  I'd hate to see him let go, 
but I have this feeling he'll be the next Boston radio veteran put out 
to pasture this year...

-Dave Tomm
"Mike Thomas"


On Jul 13, 2007, at 1:47 PM, Sean Smyth wrote:

> Kevin Vahey <kvahey@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Glenn Geffner came to the Red Sox from San Diego where he was the
>> radio guy. He had been the Sox PR man but Lucchino wanted him to do
>> radio. Wolfe wanted no part of him but this year he was forced on
>> them
>> by the Sox. He is simply terrible, the guys in Pawtucket call a
>> better
>> game on WHJJ
>>
>> Trupiano deserved a far better sendoff than what he got.
>
> As Kevin said, it was a Lucchino-driven move. Personally, I don't miss
> Trupiano's over-the-top calls at all. I wish Dave O'Brien were
> available more for radio purposes, but I also realize that's the nature
> of the beast when you've hired a guy that talented.
>
> Geffner's MIA nature when Castiglione is handling play-by-play has made
> me appreciate Joe's work more this year, and I've never been a big
> Castiglione fan.
>


From dan.strassberg@att.net  Fri Jul 13 17:24:06 2007
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:24:06 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
References: <s6977b4a.024@entbalms2.entercom.com>
	<18071.54082.341496.792549@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <001f01c7c594$2a7152d0$79a44c0c@SatU205S5044>

I may have figured it out. Suppose you multiply the number of times
per week WABC actually aired its calls by the number of listeners in
an average quarter hour. I don't know if even that could work out to 2
billion. 2*10^9/4*10^3=5*10^5. It would work out if WABC had 500,000
listeners in an AQH. 500,000 sounds awfully high even in the huge New
York market, but maybe it's not impossible. The implication would seem
to be that ~5% of the entire population of the market was tuned to 770
every hour of every day. After all, as they say, figures don't lie but
liars do figure and hyperbole is not exactly unknown to broadcasters
;>)

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org>
To: "Sid Schweiger" <sid@wrko.com>
Cc: "BRI" <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?


> <<On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:16:35 -0600, "Sid Schweiger" <sid@wrko.com>
> said:
>
>> Consider this:  The late Rick Sklar once calculated that WABC
>> mentioned
>> its call sign at least 2 *billion* times each week.
>
> That would involve repeating the callsign more than 3,300 times per
> *second*.  I doubt it.  Even two million times a week would be
> impossible.  With an average song length of 2-1/2 minutes, jingling
> between every song would only be four thousand times a week.
>
> An entire year is only about 3 million seconds.
>
> -GAWollman
>


From sid@wrko.com  Fri Jul 13 18:05:58 2007
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:05:58 -0600
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
Message-ID: <s697a2f5.078@entbalms2.entercom.com>

Now that I'm home, I looked it up.  The two billion call letter
impressions were done over twelve weeks:  the eight-week rating period
(back then) and the four-week period immediately before the rating
period when (presumably) listening habits are formed. 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: "Dan.Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net> 
To: Wollman, Garrett <wollman@bimajority.org> 
Schweiger, Sid <SCS@entercom.com> 
CC: BRI <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org> 
Creation Date: 7/13 5:24 pm 
Subject: Re: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network? 
 
I may have figured it out. Suppose you multiply the number of times 
per week WABC actually aired its calls by the number of listeners in 
an average quarter hour. I don't know if even that could work out to 2 
billion. 2*10^9/4*10^3=5*10^5. It would work out if WABC had 500,000 
listeners in an AQH. 500,000 sounds awfully high even in the huge New 
York market, but maybe it's not impossible. The implication would seem 
to be that ~5% of the entire population of the market was tuned to 770 
every hour of every day. After all, as they say, figures don't lie but 
liars do figure and hyperbole is not exactly unknown to broadcasters 
;>) 
 
----- 
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) 
eFax 1-707-215-6367 
 
----- Original Message -----  
From: "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org> 
To: "Sid Schweiger" <sid@wrko.com> 
Cc: "BRI" <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org> 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 3:32 PM 
Subject: Re: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network? 
 
 
> <<On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:16:35 -0600, "Sid Schweiger" <sid@wrko.com> 
> said: 
> 
>> Consider this:  The late Rick Sklar once calculated that WABC 
>> mentioned 
>> its call sign at least 2 *billion* times each week. 
> 
> That would involve repeating the callsign more than 3,300 times per 
> *second*.  I doubt it.  Even two million times a week would be 
> impossible.  With an average song length of 2-1/2 minutes, jingling 
> between every song would only be four thousand times a week. 
> 
> An entire year is only about 3 million seconds. 
> 
> -GAWollman 
> 
 
 
 

From wollman@bimajority.org  Fri Jul 13 19:05:19 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:05:19 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <s697a2f5.078@entbalms2.entercom.com>
References: <s697a2f5.078@entbalms2.entercom.com>
Message-ID: <18072.1327.265690.673429@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:05:58 -0600, "Sid Schweiger" <sid@wrko.com> said:

> Now that I'm home, I looked it up.  The two billion call letter
> impressions were done over twelve weeks

That's still 275.57319224 per second, assuming WABC broadcast nothing
but.  So that figure must be counting listeners and not utterances.
(Which does in fact seem possible, given the station's weekly cume of
8 million.  That would only require 21 callsign checks per week for
the average listener, which could easily be accomplished in just an
hour of listening a week, since WABC jingled every other commercial.)

-GAWollman


From dillane@sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul 13 21:37:02 2007
From: dillane@sbcglobal.net (Bill Dillane)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:37:02 -0400
Subject: Olbermann on Jacobson
Message-ID: <00da01c7c5b7$83a5b2b0$8af11810$@net>

YouTube clip at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMIJ91UDvY


From joe@attorneyross.com  Sat Jul 14 01:38:49 2007
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:38:49 -0500
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <20070713170648.6DB99478077@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070713170648.6DB99478077@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <46981B19.11932.5EDE41@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 13 Jul 2007 at 12:06, Laurence Glavin wrote:

> Can somebody explain to me why the affiliates don't INSIST that the
> originating station not use their call letters before the station
> break? It must not be required or WTIC wouldn't talk over the WRKO
> calls (do they use WEEI on Wednesdays?). in some cases, WRKO may be in
> the driver's seat, able to tell WGIR to go screw and then flip the Sox
> to 1250....but in other situations, the affiliate may have the game
> boy because IT's the only signal in a particular market. On the Met
> broadcasts, they don't say "this is the WQXR-Metropolitan Opera
> Network!)
 
Well, once upon a time, back in the 1950s and 60s, WQXR did originate 
programming to other stations, and it was called "The QXR Network."

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street	                                  Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From joe@attorneyross.com  Sat Jul 14 01:38:49 2007
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:38:49 -0500
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <s69776d7.083@entbalms2.entercom.com>
References: <s69776d7.083@entbalms2.entercom.com>
Message-ID: <46981B19.23652.5EDD76@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 13 Jul 2007 at 12:57, Sid Schweiger wrote:

> The PPM may make this a moot point once it gets into every market, but
> for now radio stations have to drill it home constantly.  Most
> listeners are *not* radio geeks who make the same associations that we
> on this list make.

Yeah.  When I was in 4th grade, living in Albany, NY, I remember the 
principal once mentioned station "WPTRY."

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street	                                  Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From nostaticatall@charter.net  Sat Jul 14 00:19:05 2007
From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:19:05 -0400
Subject: suggestions for Entercom
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707130651y31a75a90uf54071355d5b97f4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4fc429770707130651y31a75a90uf54071355d5b97f4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bccd290679669c3057dd548ae81e74eb@charter.net>

The biggest problem in swapping frequencies is that WRKO could lose 
Rush Limbaugh in the process, which would just about kill the station 
altogether.  Rush affiliates tend to be big signal AM's or dominant 
news/talk stations.  I've heard some talk about Clear Channel moving 
Rush to WKOX after it's signal upgrade.  While 1200's signal would be 
improved over where it is now, it still won't have the coverage 680 
does.  Just look at Providence.  Clear Channel owns WHJJ and runs a 
talk format on it, but Rush remains on WPRO.  Why?  A better signal and 
a higher rated talk format than 920.  I can't see how Premiere would 
want the show to stay on a station downgrading frequencies. Moving WRKO 
to 850 could be enough for Rush to move.....to 96.9.   Then what does 
WRKO have?  Finneran, Feinberg and Savage.  They'd get crushed by WTKK, 
particularly in the drives.

Their best bet is to keep WRKO on 680 and bring Dennis and Callahan 
over to do mornings.  Tell them to skip the sports and do their hate 
radio schtick.  The wingnuts that usually listen to WRKO should eat 
that up, and it's their best bet to beat Howie Carr head to head.  Keep 
Feinberg and Rush where they are, and in afternoons pair Finneran with 
a veteran, out of market radio host, someone that can counter 
Finneran's comments with predictable right-wing spin.  That should be 
enough red meat to get the regulars to at least tune in occasionally.  
It won't beat WTKK but at least it keeps the station viable.  Once WRKO 
gets out from Finneran's contract, then they can do something higher 
profile in afternoons, but for the station to stay in the game with 
WTKK they have to find a way to take him off morning drive.  Hannity is 
not the answer for afternoons.  WRKO needs to stay local in drivetime, 
even with the Speakah, and besides, Hannity's done nothing to help 
WTTT.  Leave Weiner/Savage on at night, he's not hurting the station 
and it's cost effective. And for the short term, keep the Sox on 680.  
At least they'll get some listeners nights and weekends.

Dave Tomm
"Mike Thomas"



On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:51 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote:

> How do Julie Kahn and Jason Wolfe fix the mess they created?
>
> Start with the Red Sox. Since the move to WRKO was done partly because
> 680's signal was a little better at night just move WEEI to 680. This
> splitting the contract between 2 stations was one of the dumbest moves
> in Boston radio history.
>
> Now what to do with 850?  If possible retire the WRKO calls and see if
> they can work it out with Sunbeam to get the WHDH-AM calls back and
> then rebuild the station from scratch. Put Finnerian on at night, that
> would be a better fit for him. Rebuild your news staff.
>
> Wolfe has been considered the golden boy because of WEEI but what has
> he really done there? The biggest move he made was dumping Imus and
> going with Dennis and Callahan but then didn't have the guts to fire
> them after the Metco disaster.
>


From joe@attorneyross.com  Sat Jul 14 01:38:50 2007
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:38:50 -0500
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <18071.52730.576101.902726@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <s69776d7.083@entbalms2.entercom.com>,
	<18071.52730.576101.902726@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <46981B1A.12097.5EE1DB@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 13 Jul 2007 at 15:09, Garrett Wollman wrote:

> I am told that WBZ gets a good deal of credit for other stations'
> listeners this way.  People are convinced they were listening to WBZ,
> because they repeat the calls so often, even when they were actually
> listening to Magic.

And I believe a certain country station changed its call letters from 
WCLB to WKLB-FM after WCRB's ratings suddenly went sky high for one 
book. 

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street	                                  Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From paul@derrynh.net  Sat Jul 14 08:01:04 2007
From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:01:04 -0400
Subject: suggestions for Entercom
In-Reply-To: <bccd290679669c3057dd548ae81e74eb@charter.net>
Message-ID: <001801c7c60e$a8179cb0$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>

But wasn't Rush ORIGINALLY on 850 when Gene/Jerry were still doing 10A-2P
and 2P-6P on RKO?

Paul Hopfgarten
Derry NH

-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
David Tomm
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 12:19 AM
To: Kevin Vahey
Cc: bri@bostonradio.org
Subject: Re: suggestions for Entercom

The biggest problem in swapping frequencies is that WRKO could lose 
Rush Limbaugh in the process, which would just about kill the station 
altogether.  Rush affiliates tend to be big signal AM's or dominant 
news/talk stations.  I've heard some talk about Clear Channel moving 
Rush to WKOX after it's signal upgrade.  While 1200's signal would be 
improved over where it is now, it still won't have the coverage 680 
does.  Just look at Providence.  Clear Channel owns WHJJ and runs a 
talk format on it, but Rush remains on WPRO.  Why?  A better signal and 
a higher rated talk format than 920.  I can't see how Premiere would 
want the show to stay on a station downgrading frequencies. Moving WRKO 
to 850 could be enough for Rush to move.....to 96.9.   Then what does 
WRKO have?  Finneran, Feinberg and Savage.  They'd get crushed by WTKK, 
particularly in the drives.

Their best bet is to keep WRKO on 680 and bring Dennis and Callahan 
over to do mornings.  Tell them to skip the sports and do their hate 
radio schtick.  The wingnuts that usually listen to WRKO should eat 
that up, and it's their best bet to beat Howie Carr head to head.  Keep 
Feinberg and Rush where they are, and in afternoons pair Finneran with 
a veteran, out of market radio host, someone that can counter 
Finneran's comments with predictable right-wing spin.  That should be 
enough red meat to get the regulars to at least tune in occasionally.  
It won't beat WTKK but at least it keeps the station viable.  Once WRKO 
gets out from Finneran's contract, then they can do something higher 
profile in afternoons, but for the station to stay in the game with 
WTKK they have to find a way to take him off morning drive.  Hannity is 
not the answer for afternoons.  WRKO needs to stay local in drivetime, 
even with the Speakah, and besides, Hannity's done nothing to help 
WTTT.  Leave Weiner/Savage on at night, he's not hurting the station 
and it's cost effective. And for the short term, keep the Sox on 680.  
At least they'll get some listeners nights and weekends.

Dave Tomm
"Mike Thomas"



On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:51 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote:

> How do Julie Kahn and Jason Wolfe fix the mess they created?
>
> Start with the Red Sox. Since the move to WRKO was done partly because
> 680's signal was a little better at night just move WEEI to 680. This
> splitting the contract between 2 stations was one of the dumbest moves
> in Boston radio history.
>
> Now what to do with 850?  If possible retire the WRKO calls and see if
> they can work it out with Sunbeam to get the WHDH-AM calls back and
> then rebuild the station from scratch. Put Finnerian on at night, that
> would be a better fit for him. Rebuild your news staff.
>
> Wolfe has been considered the golden boy because of WEEI but what has
> he really done there? The biggest move he made was dumping Imus and
> going with Dennis and Callahan but then didn't have the guts to fire
> them after the Metco disaster.
>


From paul@derrynh.net  Sat Jul 14 13:03:05 2007
From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:03:05 -0400
Subject: suggestions for Entercom
In-Reply-To: <20070714162607.A2AD849B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c7c638$d90cc730$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>

I recall the weekends only gig...but Rush did do some 12-3 time on 'HDH
before the 590 to 850 switch, right?

Paul Hopfgarten
Derry NH

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Nelson [mailto:raccoonradio@mail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 12:26 PM
To: paul@derrynh.net; 'David Tomm'; 'Kevin Vahey'
Cc: bri@bostonradio.org
Subject: RE: suggestions for Entercom

Yes, when the previous owner of WRKO (American Tower?) bought 850 and also
got ahold of WEEI's intellectual
property and calls, WEEI moved to 850 and the afternoon lineup of 850--Rush
and Howie--moved to WRKO.
Originally WHDH 850 had aired Rush only on weekends.


From raccoonradio@mail.com  Sat Jul 14 12:26:07 2007
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:26:07 -0500
Subject: suggestions for Entercom
Message-ID: <20070714162607.A2AD849B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>

Yes, when the previous owner of WRKO (American Tower?) bought 850 and also got ahold of WEEI's intellectual
property and calls, WEEI moved to 850 and the afternoon lineup of 850--Rush and Howie--moved to WRKO.
Originally WHDH 850 had aired Rush only on weekends.


From wollman@bimajority.org  Sat Jul 14 14:05:33 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:05:33 -0400
Subject: suggestions for Entercom
In-Reply-To: <20070714162607.A2AD849B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20070714162607.A2AD849B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <18073.4205.586014.335317@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:26:07 -0500, "Bob Nelson" <raccoonradio@mail.com> said:

> Yes, when the previous owner of WRKO (American Tower?) bought 850
> and also got ahold of WEEI's intellectual property and calls,

How quickly we forget!

The company that bought WRKO from General Tire was Atlantic Ventures.
Some time before the purchase of WEEI, the company changed its name to
American Radio Systems.  Steve Dodge then split the company, keeping
the new American Tower and selling the entire radio business to CBS.
(Yes, WRKO and WBZ were briefly sister stations, although they never
operated under common management.  This was because the FCC and the
FTC have different models about how ownership limits are enforced, and
the acquisition of ARS by CBS did not put CBS over the then-existing
numerical limit, so as far as the FCC was concerned the transaction
could be completed, and as far as the FTC was concerned, CBS had only
to promise to divest some percentage of the revenue at a later date.
ARS did put one station, 1150, into trust as a part of the sale.)

-GAWollman


From kvahey@gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 15:43:00 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:43:00 -0400
Subject: WNEV in 1984
Message-ID: <4fc429770707141243v3bb6bb8eqa5c07a3dad0fb9fc@mail.gmail.com>

This clip of the WNEV news in 1984 makes me wonder. Did Paula Zahn
replace Robin Young?   And when did Tom Ellis escape?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PIo5gC9E12A

Goodness that logo was bad  SE7EN

From kc1ih@mac.com  Sat Jul 14 18:36:30 2007
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:36:30 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <46952E15.6080308@billoneill.us>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net>
	<02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
	<4694E99F.16918.32E914@Joe.attorneyross.com>
	<46952E15.6080308@billoneill.us>
Message-ID: <p06240800c2befff6dbbb@[192.168.0.103]>

At 3:23 PM -0400 7/11/07, Bill O'Neill wrote:
>
>Can't you just see those rocketing Couric numbers making the folks 
>at WBZ all giddy?  They'd be very wise to make as much out of 
>Jacobson as possible and let her do it her way.  And with CBS news 
>as poor a product as it is, I'd bite the bullet and bring back a 
>full hour at six and run Katie at 7.

Maybe you would do that, but since CBS owns WBZ I doubt they would 
exile their own product.

-- 
Larry Weil
Back in Lake Wobegone, NH, after a detour via Holy Family Hospital.

From kc1ih@mac.com  Sat Jul 14 18:50:32 2007
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:50:32 -0400
Subject: Natalie Jacobson To Retire
In-Reply-To: <4696AA0E.67B91E7@rcn.com>
References: <4693F513.9050805@ttlc.net>
	<004601c7c337$a1ef4a60$19a3764c@Mark> <46940213.7080706@billoneill.us>
	<18068.3761.671928.617616@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<4fc429770707110513y355ad8e9ta56b1ce24ad6a11@mail.gmail.com>
	<02cf01c7c3cf$85bf93c0$6501a8c0@pastor2>
	<4fc429770707110816h71903ad0pb37a753c65cd1fc0@mail.gmail.com>
	<469591A7.742D204A@rcn.com>
	<7c37a519b366b869728000a9f3a1d8b9@charter.net>
	<4696AA0E.67B91E7@rcn.com>
Message-ID: <p06240801c2bf0372acaa@[192.168.0.100]>

At 6:24 PM -0400 7/12/07, Rick wrote:
>
>What I recall of Fox 25 news over the years was:
>
>Now the 10 p.m. news is moving again.

No they are not.  The new 11 PM newscast will be an additional 
newscast following the 10 PM.

-- 
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH

From markwats@comcast.net  Mon Jul 16 20:41:09 2007
From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:41:09 -0400
Subject: Arcing Electrical Junction Box Knocks WFEA & WZID Off The Air
Message-ID: <002801c7c80b$2c177a00$f1a4764c@Mark>

   Manchester radio stations WFEA (1370) & WZID (95.7) were knocked off the 
air earlier today when arcing wires in an electrical junction box above a 
ceiling at the 500 Commercial St. building forced power to be cut. An 
emergency generator which came on after power was cut to the building had to 
be shut down to allow repairs to be made, bringing the stations dark. It's 
not mentioned in the New Hampshire Union Leader article, but I believe WMLL 
(96.5) is also located in the affected building, and I would guess they too 
must have been knocked off the air. Repairs appear to have been completed, 
as I just found WZID to be back on the air.

  Link to the Union Leader story:
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Wiring+fire+forces+building+evacuation&articleId=61eecdae-08ec-4e92-8a1d-5e0bf16ded43

Mark Watson





From revdoug1@verizon.net  Mon Jul 16 21:58:03 2007
From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:58:03 -0400
Subject: Arcing Electrical Junction Box Knocks WFEA & WZID Off The Air
References: <002801c7c80b$2c177a00$f1a4764c@Mark>
Message-ID: <00b301c7c815$e99edf00$6501a8c0@pastor2>

Wow!  It's a blessing the building didn't catch fire.  Sorry to hear the
news, but glad all's well.

-Doug

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Watson" <markwats@comcast.net>
To: "Boston Radio" <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:41 PM
Subject: Arcing Electrical Junction Box Knocks WFEA & WZID Off The Air


>    Manchester radio stations WFEA (1370) & WZID (95.7) were knocked off
the
> air earlier today when arcing wires in an electrical junction box above a
> ceiling at the 500 Commercial St. building forced power to be cut. An
> emergency generator which came on after power was cut to the building had
to
> be shut down to allow repairs to be made, bringing the stations dark. It's
> not mentioned in the New Hampshire Union Leader article, but I believe
WMLL
> (96.5) is also located in the affected building, and I would guess they
too
> must have been knocked off the air. Repairs appear to have been completed,
> as I just found WZID to be back on the air.
>
>   Link to the Union Leader story:
>
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Wiring+fire+forces+building+evacuation&articleId=61eecdae-08ec-4e92-8a1d-5e0bf16ded43
>
> Mark Watson
>
>
>
>


From me@billoneill.us  Mon Jul 16 21:19:20 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:19:20 -0400
Subject: Arcing Electrical Junction Box Knocks WFEA & WZID Off The Air
In-Reply-To: <002801c7c80b$2c177a00$f1a4764c@Mark>
References: <002801c7c80b$2c177a00$f1a4764c@Mark>
Message-ID: <469C1918.9060506@billoneill.us>

Mark Watson wrote:
>   Manchester radio stations WFEA (1370) & WZID (95.7) were knocked off 
> the air earlier today when arcing wires in an electrical junction box 
> above a ceiling at the 500 Commercial St. building forced power to be 
> cut. A

I work for Windham Group who is also in that building so was without 
server access, voice mail, etc.  It's a recently refurbished set of 
office condos carved out of old mill architecture.  Glad it was just a 
minor problem.  We had server access around 5 this afternoon.

Bill O'Neill

From revdoug1@verizon.net  Mon Jul 16 22:25:17 2007
From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:25:17 -0400
Subject: Arcing Electrical Junction Box Knocks WFEA & WZID Off The Air
References: <002801c7c80b$2c177a00$f1a4764c@Mark>
	<469C1918.9060506@billoneill.us>
Message-ID: <00b901c7c819$b7bec960$6501a8c0@pastor2>

While we're on the subject of Manchester and old buildings, what is now in
the old WMUR-TV mansion at 1819 Elm Street?
-Doug

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill O'Neill" <me@billoneill.us>
To: "Mark Watson" <markwats@comcast.net>
Cc: "Boston Radio" <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: Arcing Electrical Junction Box Knocks WFEA & WZID Off The Air


> Mark Watson wrote:
> >   Manchester radio stations WFEA (1370) & WZID (95.7) were knocked off
> > the air earlier today when arcing wires in an electrical junction box
> > above a ceiling at the 500 Commercial St. building forced power to be
> > cut. A
>
> I work for Windham Group who is also in that building so was without
> server access, voice mail, etc.  It's a recently refurbished set of
> office condos carved out of old mill architecture.  Glad it was just a
> minor problem.  We had server access around 5 this afternoon.
>
> Bill O'Neill


From scott@fybush.com  Mon Jul 16 21:53:24 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:53:24 -0400
Subject: Arcing Electrical Junction Box Knocks WFEA & WZID Off The Air
In-Reply-To: <00b901c7c819$b7bec960$6501a8c0@pastor2>
References: <002801c7c80b$2c177a00$f1a4764c@Mark>	<469C1918.9060506@billoneill.us>
	<00b901c7c819$b7bec960$6501a8c0@pastor2>
Message-ID: <469C2114.5060407@fybush.com>

Doug Drown wrote:
> While we're on the subject of Manchester and old buildings, what is now in
> the old WMUR-TV mansion at 1819 Elm Street?
> -Doug
>
>   
It was a law office when last I drove by it a year or two ago.

s

From wollman@bimajority.org  Mon Jul 16 22:11:01 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:11:01 -0400
Subject: Arcing Electrical Junction Box Knocks WFEA & WZID Off The Air
In-Reply-To: <00b901c7c819$b7bec960$6501a8c0@pastor2>
References: <002801c7c80b$2c177a00$f1a4764c@Mark>
	<469C1918.9060506@billoneill.us>
	<00b901c7c819$b7bec960$6501a8c0@pastor2>
Message-ID: <18076.9525.611769.956238@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:25:17 -0400, "Doug Drown" <revdoug1@verizon.net> said:

> While we're on the subject of Manchester and old buildings, what is now in
> the old WMUR-TV mansion at 1819 Elm Street?

And does anyone with a Boston Central landline care to ask the
operator for "Enterprise 1555" to see who (if anyone) answers it.

(This actually reminds me: it's been a couple of years since I've seen
a phone book here in Framingham.  I have a Verizon landline; have they
stopped distributing them or are mine just being stolen by the
neighbors?)

-GAWollman


From joe@attorneyross.com  Tue Jul 17 00:16:30 2007
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:16:30 -0500
Subject: Arcing Electrical Junction Box Knocks WFEA & WZID Off The Air
In-Reply-To: <18076.9525.611769.956238@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
References: <002801c7c80b$2c177a00$f1a4764c@Mark>,
	<00b901c7c819$b7bec960$6501a8c0@pastor2>,
	<18076.9525.611769.956238@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <469BFC4E.6301.44E4B8@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 16 Jul 2007 at 22:11, Garrett Wollman wrote:

> And does anyone with a Boston Central landline care to ask the
> operator for "Enterprise 1555" to see who (if anyone) answers it.

"Enterprise" numbers were the way to have an inward toll-free number 
before area code 800 numbers came along.  Are there any "Enterprise" 
numbers left now?
 
-- 
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 92 State Street	                                  Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From wollman@bimajority.org  Mon Jul 16 23:57:00 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:57:00 -0400
Subject: Arcing Electrical Junction Box Knocks WFEA & WZID Off The Air
In-Reply-To: <469BFC4E.6301.44E4B8@joe.attorneyross.com>
References: <002801c7c80b$2c177a00$f1a4764c@Mark>
	<00b901c7c819$b7bec960$6501a8c0@pastor2>
	<18076.9525.611769.956238@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
	<469BFC4E.6301.44E4B8@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <18076.15884.397082.428863@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:16:30 -0500, "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross.com> said:

> On 16 Jul 2007 at 22:11, Garrett Wollman wrote:
>> And does anyone with a Boston Central landline care to ask the
>> operator for "Enterprise 1555" to see who (if anyone) answers it.

> "Enterprise" numbers were the way to have an inward toll-free number 
> before area code 800 numbers came along.  Are there any "Enterprise" 
> numbers left now?
 
Well, as of about five years ago, if you looked in the Boston business
White Pages, there was:

W M U R  T V  1819 Elm  Manchester N H
  From Boston Central exchange
  No charge to calling party
  Dial "0" and ask operator for . . . . . . . . . . Enterprise 1555

As I said, I haven't seen a Real Phone Book in a few years, so I have
no idea whether that listing is still there.

The west-coast equivalent of "Enterprise" was "Zenith" (which had the
advantage that it could not be accidentally dialed by customers as a
named exchange), and as of a similar time ago, you still saw maps of
Nevada and California advising that, in an emergency, one should dial
the operator and ask for "Zenith 1212".

Each BOC had its own set of "Enterprise"/"Zenith" number assignments,
but they were coordinated nationally by Mother so that an airline, for
example, could get the same number nationwide.  As noted in the WMUR
listing, they could be quite specific as to which callers could use
it, down to particular exchanges.  (Presumably they chose Boston
Central because that's where the media buyers were located back in the
1960s.)  Pat Townson has a brief summary at
<http://massis.lcs.mit.edu/archives/history/enterprise-numbers>.

-GAWollman


From paul@derrynh.net  Tue Jul 17 06:26:27 2007
From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:26:27 -0400
Subject: Arcing Electrical Junction Box Knocks WFEA & WZID Off The Air
In-Reply-To: <18076.9525.611769.956238@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <000c01c7c85c$efb71cd0$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>

Theft!

The Salem-Derry (small-sized) Phone Book from Verizon (July 2007) was just
distributed this past week.

Paul Hopfgarten
Derry NH

-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
Garrett Wollman
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:11 PM
To: Doug Drown
Cc: Boston Radio
Subject: Re: Arcing Electrical Junction Box Knocks WFEA & WZID Off The Air

<<On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:25:17 -0400, "Doug Drown" <revdoug1@verizon.net>
said:

> While we're on the subject of Manchester and old buildings, what is now in
> the old WMUR-TV mansion at 1819 Elm Street?

And does anyone with a Boston Central landline care to ask the
operator for "Enterprise 1555" to see who (if anyone) answers it.

(This actually reminds me: it's been a couple of years since I've seen
a phone book here in Framingham.  I have a Verizon landline; have they
stopped distributing them or are mine just being stolen by the
neighbors?)

-GAWollman


From rogerkirk@ttlc.net  Wed Jul 18 21:35:27 2007
From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:35:27 -0400
Subject: Unusual Commercial on WBZ-AM
Message-ID: <469EBFDF.8020202@ttlc.net>

I heard a commercial (for a Cigar Shop in Salem NH) on WBZ today for the 
first time.

While he does not say his name, the talent is obviously Dale Dorman (or 
the darn best imitation I've ever heard).

What's interesting is that it sounds like a live read - done in Uncle 
Dale's inimitable ultra-wacky style - making it sound a tad out of place 
on 'BZ. 

However, I find it more interesting that Dale would be huckstering a 
smoking product at all - given his disdain for smoking.  It was alleged 
(while I worked at WRKO) that Dale suffered from a lung condition that 
made his tolerance for smoke almost nil.  I do know that he made his 
feelings about smoking very clear when he came in at 5:30 and somebody 
had smoked in the announcer's booth.

Guess the price must have been right.




From radiotony@comcast.net  Wed Jul 18 21:37:42 2007
From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:37:42 -0400
Subject: Unusual Commercial on WBZ-AM
In-Reply-To: <469EBFDF.8020202@ttlc.net>
References: <469EBFDF.8020202@ttlc.net>
Message-ID: <004901c7c9a5$66964760$33c2d620$@net>

Didn't they used to be big sponsors on Howie Carr's show?

Best, 
Tony Schinella

-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
Roger Kirk
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:35 PM
To: bri@bostonradio.org
Subject: Unusual Commercial on WBZ-AM

I heard a commercial (for a Cigar Shop in Salem NH) on WBZ today for the 
first time.

While he does not say his name, the talent is obviously Dale Dorman (or 
the darn best imitation I've ever heard).

What's interesting is that it sounds like a live read - done in Uncle 
Dale's inimitable ultra-wacky style - making it sound a tad out of place 
on 'BZ. 

However, I find it more interesting that Dale would be huckstering a 
smoking product at all - given his disdain for smoking.  It was alleged 
(while I worked at WRKO) that Dale suffered from a lung condition that 
made his tolerance for smoke almost nil.  I do know that he made his 
feelings about smoking very clear when he came in at 5:30 and somebody 
had smoked in the announcer's booth.

Guess the price must have been right.




From dlh@donnahalper.com  Thu Jul 19 00:11:42 2007
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:11:42 -0400
Subject: Barry Scott arrested?   
Message-ID: <20070719041152.45F34458FBA@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com>

Did you hear that oldies jock Barry Scott who does the popular "Lost 
45s show" on WODS in Boston was in an altercation with the police and 
was arrested?  It took place at a party in Provincetown where he was 
dj'ing.  I just saw a press-release about it from the Gay and Lesbian 
Alliance Anti-Violence Task Force.  The story says that when the 
party got too loud, police came to break it up and Barry was among 
those who were allegedly assaulted by police, who then arrested 
him.  I've known Barry for years and I can't imagine him getting into 
a fight with anyone, let alone police officers... according to the 
press release, he was "thrown against a wall, kicked, and stepped 
on," and now has lacerations to his face.  Here's the first news 
story about it:

http://www.provincetownbanner.com/article/news_article/_/49280/News/7/19/2007


From kvahey@gmail.com  Thu Jul 19 10:25:59 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:25:59 -0400
Subject: prayers for Jess Cain
In-Reply-To: <4694FC0E.7030406@billoneill.us>
References: <4fc429770707110748v5eb4b146g4b39333574c7fb3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4694FC0E.7030406@billoneill.us>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707190725v44b0f581xc23acfc9f70e746e@mail.gmail.com>

Jess Cain will live forever because of this.

http://staffannouncer.com/blog/audio/yazsong.mp3

It would NEVER happen today but Dave Maynard played it almost everyday
in September of 1967 on WBZ

Years ago Pudge told me it took Jess one take

On 7/11/07, Bill O'Neill <me@billoneill.us> wrote:
> Kevin Vahey wrote:
> > Jay Fitzgerald in the Herald tells us this morning that long time WHDH
> > morning man Jess Cain is very ill. Get Well Jess!!!
> >
> >
> > http://news.bostonherald.com/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1010631
> >
> >
>
> Fitzgerald's article is a must-read if you have a chance. He gives Jess
> spot-on and well-deserved praise.
>
> In my relatively short tenure at WHDH back in the 80s, Jess was to bring
> his 35+ year career to a close, with the final radio chapter an
> interesting AM combo with Tom Doyle.  Let's just say that with Pudge
> Flynn, Jess needed no other partner - that was amazing chemistry.
>
> One of the funniest Jess bits was enshrined on Pudge's Wall of Carts in
> master at the old NE Life Hall studio. I forget the label but it was
> (Jess speaking in) faux Chinese with sitar and big-finish gong
> accompaniment (yes, very un-pc by modern standards). Eddie's echs often
> played that as a bed under Eddie's live Kowloon reads during Sportstalk
> and the Huddle.  Hysterical.  The first time I saw it done was when Don
> Albanese was teching the board.  It was then that I learned that the bit
> was that of Jess - never would have guessed.  I also witnessed Jess read
> the weather report over practically all of the Axel F
> Theme/Faltermeyer(?)  (from the Eddie Murphy film) but Jess actually
> spoke the words of the forecast to the actual syncopation of the song.
> He was standing there doing it all on the fly just for the heck of it
> but it was flawless.  Now, if I ever hear that song in the background I
> can only remember Jess's "It will be Sun-shine and bree-zy to-MO-row..."
> all in a soft, underplayed voice/tone.
>
> Glad to hear that Jess is in good hands and held in prayer. Get well soon!
>
> Bill O'Neill
>

From m_carney@yahoo.com  Thu Jul 19 12:07:52 2007
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:07:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Bianca de la Garza's last day
Message-ID: <138036.45051.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

According to this morning's Inside Track in the Boston
Herald, tomorrow will be Bianca de la Garza's last day
at Fox 25. It's only one line so there's no detail as
to where she or hubby David Wade may end up.


       
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From radiotest@cox.net  Thu Jul 19 14:47:22 2007
From: radiotest@cox.net (Dale H. Cook)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:47:22 -0400
Subject: prayers for Jess Cain
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707190725v44b0f581xc23acfc9f70e746e@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <4fc429770707110748v5eb4b146g4b39333574c7fb3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4694FC0E.7030406@billoneill.us>
	<4fc429770707190725v44b0f581xc23acfc9f70e746e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070719143958.03920508@cox.net>

At 10:25 AM 7/19/2007, Kevin Vahey wrote:

>Jess Cain will live forever because of this.
>
>http://staffannouncer.com/blog/audio/yazsong.mp3

 From the pops it must have come from someone's treasured vinyl copy 
of "The Incredible Dream," because it sounds a lot like my copy.

That fall I was unlucky enough to suffer a collapsed lung and was in 
the hospital, so none of our family got to Fenway for the Series. I 
was, however, able to watch all seven games on TV, and my schoolmates 
envied the fact that I got to see the day games that they missed.

Jess' ability to execute a complex bit flawlessly on the fly has 
always amazed me, and has amazed me even more since I began working 
in radio in 1969.

Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, 
Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ
http://members.cox.net/dalehcook/starcity.shtml 


From kvahey@gmail.com  Thu Jul 19 21:51:36 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:51:36 +0000
Subject: WROL remote line Thursday
Message-ID: <4fc429770707191851x17a2f4bdm5a0d74bfa258a66@mail.gmail.com>

The quality of the phone line from Fenway is awful with distortion and
a hum. It usually is fine.

From PaulBCurrier@comcast.net  Fri Jul 20 10:20:07 2007
From: PaulBCurrier@comcast.net (Paul B Currier)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:20:07 -0400
Subject: On Cape Cod...
References: <00da01c7c5b7$83a5b2b0$8af11810$@net>
Message-ID: <00d601c7cad9$1302c0d0$633f434b@DG07P241>

Dave Reid is celebrating 28 years on WQRC today.

And, WOMR seems to be operating with both channels at full power after many,
many transplants.  They've twice had serious fried transmitter problems in
the past year or so.

Paul Currier
Sandwich



From lglavin@mail.com  Fri Jul 20 13:24:10 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:24:10 -0500
Subject: WROL remote line Thursday
Message-ID: <20070720172411.0822E1158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com>

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kevin Vahey" 
>To: BRI@BOSTONRADIO.ORG
>Subject: WROL remote line Thursday
>Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:51:36 +0000

>The quality of the phone line from Fenway is awful with distortion and
>a hum. It usually is fine.

It probably hums because it doesn't know the words.

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From kvahey@gmail.com  Fri Jul 20 16:30:58 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:30:58 -0400
Subject: UNH hockey announcer arrested
Message-ID: <4fc429770707201330h309c57f3ia7a3508ae3f80c72@mail.gmail.com>

I'm a little shocked by this since I know Dick from UNH-BU hockey games.

http://wbztv.com/topstories/local_story_201072925.html

From revdoug1@verizon.net  Fri Jul 20 23:38:49 2007
From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:38:49 -0400
Subject: WROL remote line Thursday
References: <20070720172411.0822E1158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <00bc01c7cb48$a741f530$6501a8c0@pastor2>

Bah-dah-bing!

-Doug

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laurence Glavin" <lglavin@mail.com>
To: "Kevin Vahey" <kvahey@gmail.com>; <BRI@bostonradio.org>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: WROL remote line Thursday


> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Kevin Vahey" 
> >To: BRI@BOSTONRADIO.ORG
> >Subject: WROL remote line Thursday
> >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:51:36 +0000
> 
> >The quality of the phone line from Fenway is awful with distortion and
> >a hum. It usually is fine.
> 
> It probably hums because it doesn't know the words.
> 
> -- 
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From kvahey@gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 02:13:11 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:13:11 -0400
Subject: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
In-Reply-To: <4685D82B.1020602@fybush.com>
References: <4685D82B.1020602@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707232313g4374aa9elee134cb9569c6a19@mail.gmail.com>

How does the WMBR board feel about this? Obviously these calls would
be snapped up quickly. Scott would WMBR get first crack at them since
they were the previous owner?

On 6/30/07, Scott Fybush <scott@fybush.com> wrote:
> The calls will disappear from channel 17 in Atlanta in October, 28 years
> after they moved from Cambridge to Georgia. Wouldn't it be a kick to see
> them come back home?
>
> http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2007/06/28/0628bizturner.html
>
> s
>

From scott@fybush.com  Tue Jul 24 08:34:02 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:34:02 -0400
Subject: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
In-Reply-To: <4fc429770707232313g4374aa9elee134cb9569c6a19@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4685D82B.1020602@fybush.com>
	<4fc429770707232313g4374aa9elee134cb9569c6a19@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46A5F1BA.5070101@fybush.com>

Kevin Vahey wrote:
> How does the WMBR board feel about this? Obviously these calls would
> be snapped up quickly. Scott would WMBR get first crack at them since
> they were the previous owner?

Nope - once you give up a set of calls, they're out in the wild, as it 
were, for anyone to grab. That's why broadcast owners with lots of 
licenses often "park" calls in small markets if they think they might 
use them again, or if they think the competition might want to grab 
them. WNEW, no longer in use in New York, now resides on a CBS FM 
station outside West Palm Beach. WXRK, during its brief retirement when 
New York's 92.3 became "Free FM," went to Cleveland, only to be returned 
to 92.3 in NYC when Free FM died earlier this year.

Time Warner can't do that with WTBS - channel 17 in Atlanta is its one 
and only broadcast license, so when they change the calls there, the 
"WTBS" callsign will be up for grabs to the first applicant.

s

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Tue Jul 24 09:02:41 2007
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:02:41 -0400
Subject: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
References: <4685D82B.1020602@fybush.com><4fc429770707232313g4374aa9elee134cb9569c6a19@mail.gmail.com>
	<46A5F1BA.5070101@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c7cdf2$f1a7bc70$93a44c0c@SatU205S5044>

I gather that since there was no WTBS in a service other than TV, WMBR
has had the option of trying to get Time-Warner to agree to the use of
the call-sign on FM in Cambridge for quite a long time. That must mean
that either the WMBR board never realized they had the option, wasn't
interested in trying, or had inside info that any such attempt was
doomed to fail.

-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Fybush" <scott@fybush.com>
To: "Kevin Vahey" <kvahey@gmail.com>
Cc: "BRI" <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
> Kevin Vahey wrote:
>> How does the WMBR board feel about this? Obviously these calls
>> would
>> be snapped up quickly. Scott would WMBR get first crack at them
>> since
>> they were the previous owner?
>
> Nope - once you give up a set of calls, they're out in the wild, as
> it were, for anyone to grab. That's why broadcast owners with lots
> of licenses often "park" calls in small markets if they think they
> might use them again, or if they think the competition might want to
> grab them. WNEW, no longer in use in New York, now resides on a CBS
> FM station outside West Palm Beach. WXRK, during its brief
> retirement when New York's 92.3 became "Free FM," went to Cleveland,
> only to be returned to 92.3 in NYC when Free FM died earlier this
> year.
>
> Time Warner can't do that with WTBS - channel 17 in Atlanta is its
> one and only broadcast license, so when they change the calls there,
> the "WTBS" callsign will be up for grabs to the first applicant.
>
> s


From sean.smyth@yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 10:45:44 2007
From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:45:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
In-Reply-To: <000b01c7cdf2$f1a7bc70$93a44c0c@SatU205S5044>
Message-ID: <129636.53016.qm@web58313.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

"Dan.Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net> wrote:
> I gather that since there was no WTBS in a service other than TV,
> WMBR
> has had the option of trying to get Time-Warner to agree to the use
> of
> the call-sign on FM in Cambridge for quite a long time. That must
> mean
> that either the WMBR board never realized they had the option, wasn't
> interested in trying, or had inside info that any such attempt was
> doomed to fail.

When did the call-sign rules change, allowing more liberal "sharing" of
a call sign over AM, FM and TV? I'm guessing the MIT folks now are
pretty content with WMBR, seeing as it's been the station's identity
for 30-ish years.


       
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From dan.strassberg@att.net  Tue Jul 24 11:00:35 2007
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:00:35 -0400
Subject: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
References: <129636.53016.qm@web58313.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c7ce03$66fe15e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg>

Scott has to answer that one. He (and Garrett and maybe Sid Schweiger)
probably know the exact date.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Smyth" <sean.smyth@yahoo.com>
To: "Dan.Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net>
Cc: "BRI" <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?


> "Dan.Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net> wrote:
> > I gather that since there was no WTBS in a service other than TV,
> > WMBR
> > has had the option of trying to get Time-Warner to agree to the use
> > of
> > the call-sign on FM in Cambridge for quite a long time. That must
> > mean
> > that either the WMBR board never realized they had the option, wasn't
> > interested in trying, or had inside info that any such attempt was
> > doomed to fail.
>
> When did the call-sign rules change, allowing more liberal "sharing" of
> a call sign over AM, FM and TV? I'm guessing the MIT folks now are
> pretty content with WMBR, seeing as it's been the station's identity
> for 30-ish years.
>
>
>
>
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From sid@wrko.com  Tue Jul 24 11:14:53 2007
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:14:53 -0600
Subject: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
Message-ID: <s6a5c326.081@entbalms2.entercom.com>

>>When did the call-sign rules change, allowing more liberal "sharing"
of a call sign over AM, FM and TV?<<

I believe it was in 1983.





Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF
WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Boston MA  02135-2040
Phone: 617-779-5369
Fax: 617-779-5379
E-Mail: sid@wrko.com

From scott@fybush.com  Tue Jul 24 11:32:24 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:32:24 -0400
Subject: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
In-Reply-To: <s6a5c326.081@entbalms2.entercom.com>
References: <s6a5c326.081@entbalms2.entercom.com>
Message-ID: <46A61B88.9060601@fybush.com>

Sid Schweiger wrote:
>>> When did the call-sign rules change, allowing more liberal "sharing"
> of a call sign over AM, FM and TV?<<
> 
> I believe it was in 1983.
>

That sounds about right. The change was made at the behest of either CBS 
or Gannett - CBS wanted to share the KCBS calls from 740 in San 
Francisco on channel 2 in LA (ex-KNXT), while Gannett wanted to 
capitalize on its launch of USA Today by using the KUSA and WUSA calls 
on TV and radio in multiple cities.

I show KPRZ Los Angeles parking the KUSA(AM) calls on 2/21/84, KSD St. 
Louis becoming KUSA(AM) on 3/19/84, and KBTV Denver becoming KUSA-TV on 
3/19/84 as well.

KNXT Los Angeles became KCBS-TV on 4/2/84.

WTCN-TV Minneapolis became WUSA(TV) on 7/4/85, WIQI Tampa became WUSA-FM 
on 6/2/86, and then the WUSA(TV) calls moved from Minneapolis (becoming 
KARE-TV) to Washington (ex-WDVM) on 7/4/86.

I'm pretty sure the sharing of the KUSA calls was the first one.

s

From sid@wrko.com  Tue Jul 24 11:40:43 2007
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:40:43 -0600
Subject: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
Message-ID: <s6a5c925.008@entbalms2.entercom.com>

>>KNXT Los Angeles became KCBS-TV on 4/2/84.<<

The ad in Broadcasting Magazine following that switch was a classic. 
In small print, at the bottom of the page, the copy said: "Bet you can't
remember our old call sign."



Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF
WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Boston MA  02135-2040
Phone: 617-779-5369
Fax: 617-779-5379
E-Mail: sid@wrko.com

From elipolo@earthlink.net  Tue Jul 24 13:37:31 2007
From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:37:31 -0400
Subject: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
Message-ID: <C2CBB11A.2C52%elipolo@earthlink.net>

First of all, the students who are the current management
of WMBR would have no nostalgia for the WTBS call letters.
They weren't even born yet when the call letters changed.
The student GM and PD are primarily responsible for day to
day hands-on operation of the station as per MIT policy.

Some on the Technology Broadcasting Corporation, the board
of mainly station and MIT alums that holds the license and
oversees certain long term and legal issues would certainly
remember WTBS, but I don't know how much interest there is
in actually pursuing the call letters. I know that board
members Todd Glickman and Shawn Mamros occasionally pop up
on this list, perhaps they may chime in.

Though I've been a staff member of WMBR since 1982 (just a
few years after the call change) and I remember listening
to WTBS since 1967 before that, I don't feel that it would
be advantageous at this point to pursue changing the calls
to ones that had been dropped from the station almost 30
years ago. WMBR has a few decades worth of recognition with
those calls, not only with the local and worldwide (via the
web) listening audience, but also with record companies,
club and concert promoters, and various other agencies and
organizations of all sorts.

It would also be an unnecessary administrative headache for
an all-volunteer station, as it would become necessary to
change all web and online listings, contact all agencies
and companies that correspond with the station, change all
print media containing the call letters, re-cut all on-air
station promos, and anyone who bookmarked the website and/or
audio streams would find that their URL's no longer work.

Of course, autoforwards could be set up, but that would be
even more volunteer work for someone... We currently barely
have the staff with enough spare volunteer time to keep the
station operating smoothly and maintained. I wouldn't want
to see all this added volunteer burden for something which
would essentially be nostalgia vanity for old-timers...

I'm sure that there would also be financial expenses, such
as filing fees, etc... I don't know how much those would be,
and though WMBR is not in desperate financial straits these
days, our listener donations can be spent in ways that serve
them better, for example, it's rare to listen to a two-hour
airshift on WMBR without at least one CD player failure on-
air per show...

EP



From mamros@MIT.EDU  Tue Jul 24 13:55:21 2007
From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:55:21 -0400
Subject: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:13:11 EDT."
	<4fc429770707232313g4374aa9elee134cb9569c6a19@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200707241755.l6OHtMIq014702@biohazard-cafe.mit.edu>

>How does the WMBR board feel about this? Obviously these calls would
>be snapped up quickly. [...]

I can't speak for the whole board, but I'll offer my opinion (plus
a point or two that some may be overlooking).

The cable channel named TBS is not going away, nor (as far as I know)
are they planning a name change anytime soon.  Granted, that has no
bearing on how the FCC assigns call signs - indeed, there is a KTBS-TV
in Shreveport LA (which I assume predates WTBS-TV 17 Atlanta - or
maybe it was co-owned at some point?).  But the TBS brand is certainly
well known nationwide, and I'm sure Time Warner has taken out all
applicable trademarks and what-not to protect that brand.

I'm sure everyone on this list knows it's common practice for stations
with W*** calls to be nicknamed by an abbreviation of those calls that
drops the leading 'W'.  I hear plenty of promos on AM 1030 where they
call themselves just "BZ" (except for the inevitable full "WBZ 1030"
at the end).  There probably isn't a station in town (except for those
that go by some non-call-sign-based brand name) that doesn't do this,
at least on an informal basis.  Or even just discussing stations on
this list, I can spit out BZ or RKO or BCN or EEI, and I don't need
to say anything else - you all know what stations I'm talking about.

But a station with the WTBS call sign - even if it were 88.1 in Cambridge
- could never refer to itself, or have anyone else refer to it as just
TBS without, at the very least, causing some amount of confusion with
the very-well-known cable station that goes by that brand name.  If such
a station were ever to call itself TBS on the air, you can guarantee
there'd be a letter coming from Time Warner's lawyers in short order.

For that reason, contrary to Kevin's assertion above, I don't think
any station in their right mind is going to want the WTBS calls,
unless they plan on completely burying them with some other brand
name - and if that's the case, why bother?

The point Sean made is also a good one.  We've been WMBR for 28
years now.  Indeed, that's a longer period of time than the station
was WTBS (only 18 years).  I daresay the majority of our current
listening audience would not associate the letters WTBS with our
station at all.  The nostaligia factor by itself isn't enough of
a reason to make the change, in my opinion.  Couple it with the
continued existence of the cable TBS, and it makes even less sense.

-Shawn Mamros
E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu

From lglavin@mail.com  Tue Jul 24 15:48:00 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:48:00 -0500
Subject: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
Message-ID: <20070724194800.4B014478077@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com>

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Shawn Mamros" 
>To: "Kevin Vahey" 
>Subject: Re: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:55:21 -0400

> How does the WMBR board feel about this? Obviously these calls would
> be snapped up quickly. [...]

>I can't speak for the whole board, but I'll offer my opinion (plus
>a point or two that some may be overlooking).
>The cable channel named TBS is not going away, nor (as far as I know)
>are they planning a name change anytime soon. Granted, that has no
>bearing on how the FCC assigns call signs - indeed, there is a KTBS-TV
>in Shreveport LA (which I assume predates WTBS-TV 17 Atlanta - or
>maybe it was co-owned at some point?). But the TBS brand is certainly
>well known nationwide, and I'm sure Time Warner has taken out all
>applicable trademarks and what-not to protect that brand.

Oh by the way, I checked fcc.gov and the call letters WMIT still belong to an
FM station in North Carolina.  Now if THAT station ever changed its calls...


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From cohasset@frontiernet.net  Tue Jul 24 18:42:23 2007
From: cohasset@frontiernet.net (Cohasset / Hippisley)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:42:23 -0400
Subject: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
In-Reply-To: <C2CBB11A.2C52%elipolo@earthlink.net>
References: <C2CBB11A.2C52%elipolo@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <16BB6453-50B7-4920-8E85-88D22818C736@frontiernet.net>


On Jul 24, 2007, at 1:37 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote:

> it's rare to listen to a two-hour
> airshift on WMBR without at least one CD player failure on-
> air per show...

Ahhh, for the days when Rock 'n Roll Memory Time was all vinyl....

Bud Hippisley
former WTBS TM, CE, PMD, etc.

From rogerkirk@ttlc.net  Tue Jul 24 19:34:32 2007
From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:34:32 -0400
Subject: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
In-Reply-To: <16BB6453-50B7-4920-8E85-88D22818C736@frontiernet.net>
References: <C2CBB11A.2C52%elipolo@earthlink.net>
	<16BB6453-50B7-4920-8E85-88D22818C736@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <46A68C88.9090906@ttlc.net>

Cohasset / Hippisley wrote:
>
> On Jul 24, 2007, at 1:37 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote:
>
>> it's rare to listen to a two-hour
>> airshift on WMBR without at least one CD player failure on-
>> air per show...
>
> Ahhh, for the days when Rock 'n Roll Memory Time was all vinyl....
>
> Bud Hippisley
> former WTBS TM, CE, PMD, etc.
IIRC, on well maintained stations, vinyl rarely ever skipped.


From elipolo@earthlink.net  Tue Jul 24 19:45:03 2007
From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:45:03 -0400
Subject: Is it time for WTBS to make a comeback on 88.1?
Message-ID: <C2CC073E.2C54%elipolo@earthlink.net>

--- Cohasset / Hippisley <cohasset@frontiernet.net> wrote:

> On Jul 24, 2007, at 1:37 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote:
> 
> > it's rare to listen to a two-hour airshift on WMBR
> > without at least one CD player failure on- air per
> > show...
> 
> Ahhh, for the days when Rock 'n Roll Memory Time was
> all vinyl....

I loved R'n'RMT. Too bad that show couldn't survive.
One of the hosts in it's last years, Doug Edwards, is
currently one of the hosts of the 1950's R&B/Doo-Wop
shows Saturday evenings on 91.7 WMWM Salem State.

I still play a fair amount of vinyl on WMBR on my
edition of the "Lost & Found" 1960s/'70s show, but
I try to use CD reissues of the music when available.
The vinyl LP's in their library, as well as in my own
collection, have all seen far better days. The Rice
Krispies sound just sounds bad in this day and age.

Besides frequent CD player failures, another thing
you'll often hear on shows that play vinyl on WMBR is
turntables dropping one stereo channel or the other.
The contacts between the head shells and the tone arms
continually develop oxidation and tarnish, which while
invisible to the eye, prevent the audio from passing
through.

Back when the station had analog tape decks and cart
machines, there were always Q-Tips and alcohol based
solvent around for cleaning, and it was easy to clean
the tone arm contacts while cleaning the tape heads.

However, now that there are no more analog tape decks,
those cleaning supplies are no longer available in the
studios. I bought my own bottle of solvent and bag of
Q-Tips and store them in my station locker, so that I
can clean those chronically intermittent turntable
tone arm contacts before my shows.

EP



From glickman@MIT.EDU  Wed Jul 25 12:27:55 2007
From: glickman@MIT.EDU (Todd Glickman)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:27:55 -0400
Subject: WTBS and wmbr
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1185379201.89317.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
References: <mailman.1.1185379201.89317.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
Message-ID: <p0623090ac2cd2772430e@[18.48.0.229]>

I agree with Shawn Mamros' comments.  In fact, when the news hit a 
few weeks ago, I polled my colleagues on the Technology Broadcating 
Corporation.  We're all in agreement -- we're wmbr and that's the 
brand we're known by.  (We were WTBS for 18 years, but have been wbmr 
now for 28!)

(Sidebar:  A few years after Mr. Turner acquired the calls WTBS, I 
was in a meeting with him on other business.  I had brought down my 
WTBS license plate and offered to sell it to him.  He declined.  So 
now it's hanging on the wall of my home office, and the new calls 
still adorn my "mobile unit.")

-Todd
-- 
Todd Glickman
Associate Director, Office of Corporate Relations
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, E38-400
292 Main Street, 4th Floor
Cambridge, MA 02139
Email:	glickman@mit.edu
Phone:	(617) 452-2457

Certified Broadcast Meteorologist
WCBS Newsradio-880
New York City, NY
Email:	radio88@radio88.net

Technology Broadcasting Corporation
wmbr radio, Cambridge, MA
wmbr.org

From kvahey@gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 12:36:35 2007
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:36:35 -0400
Subject: WTBS and wmbr
In-Reply-To: <p0623090ac2cd2772430e@18.48.0.229>
References: <mailman.1.1185379201.89317.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
	<p0623090ac2cd2772430e@18.48.0.229>
Message-ID: <4fc429770707250936j440e8e64rf635fff11fdb4e65@mail.gmail.com>

I certainly understand the reasoning behind that

However I still think the best thing that ever aired on that station
was Mike Davis doing "Night Owl" (gulp) 40 YEARS AGO

I am pretty certain the WTBS calls will not be on the shelf long as
somebody will grab them because of the Atlanta heritage

From me@billoneill.us  Wed Jul 25 13:04:16 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:04:16 -0400
Subject: WTBS and wmbr
In-Reply-To: <p0623090ac2cd2772430e@[18.48.0.229]>
References: <mailman.1.1185379201.89317.boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org>
	<p0623090ac2cd2772430e@[18.48.0.229]>
Message-ID: <46A78290.4010308@billoneill.us>

Todd Glickman wrote:
> So now it's hanging on the wall of my home office, and the new calls 
> still adorn my "mobile unit.")

Is that unit tornado-tested? <g>

Bill O'Neill

From sean.smyth@yahoo.com  Wed Jul 25 13:27:34 2007
From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:27:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WTBS and wmbr
In-Reply-To: <p0623090ac2cd2772430e@[18.48.0.229]>
Message-ID: <70241.46045.qm@web58306.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Todd Glickman <glickman@mit.edu> wrote:
> I agree with Shawn Mamros' comments.  In fact, when the news hit a 
> few weeks ago, I polled my colleagues on the Technology Broadcating 
> Corporation.  We're all in agreement -- we're wmbr and that's the 
> brand we're known by.  (We were WTBS for 18 years, but have been wbmr
> 
> now for 28!)

Has the board discussed the possibility of acquiring the WMIT calls if
they became available?


       
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From jwcorcoran@earthlink.net  Wed Jul 25 14:13:45 2007
From: jwcorcoran@earthlink.net (Joe Corcoran)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:13:45 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: WCCM
Message-ID: <829958.1185387226047.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Happened to be scanning 1490 this morning and heard a promo that on August 1st WCCM would move to 1110 AM.  This would make the third move for WCCM in the past few years, (800 orignally) and I'm assuming would free up the 1490 frequency for Costa to run fulltime Spanish language progamming.

If I remember correctly, the 1110 is based in Salem, N.H. and sends most of it's signal north, so I wonder how the signal will compare to 1490 in the Merrimack Valley

Joe Corcoran

From haverhill01835@comcast.net  Wed Jul 25 14:54:06 2007
From: haverhill01835@comcast.net (haverhill01835@comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:54:06 +0000
Subject: WCCM
Message-ID: <072520071854.1563.46A79C4E000BF9CA0000061B22068150930C050303@comcast.net>

As of 8/1 - WCCM and WCEC programming will swap programming (Brokered spanish will now be on 1490 and Eng. Programming will now be heard on 1110) 

If memory serves me correct - 1110 is a pretty decent So. NH radio signal, getting into Manchester rather well.  As a matter of fact - I remember having to pick up a contract engineer when I worked for Costa Eagle at Manchester Airport.  Leaving Methuen, 1110 came in rather well right up to the Manchester Airport parking facility.

1110 is a very tough catch for me in Haverhill (read: darned near impossible), and is even worse in the 'burbs of Groveland, Georgetown, etc.  Even north of the border into Plaistow, 1110 is a tough catch. It can also be considered marginal at best in parts of Methuen, Lawrence and other parts of the Valley during my "airchecks" since I found out about the change.  

On the flip side, 1490 has been marginal in parts of Lawrence (esp. Downtown) since the flip from 800 a few years back.  

IMHO: The Bottom line is that WCCM 1490 has been a "daytimer" of sorts for sometime now: English runs from 5A-6P with some sort of Spanish programming from 6P-5A (whether it's Red Sox baseball in Spanish or the Spanish "Romantica" music format, or even a broker or two)  Now, it's just a requirement for WCCM to officially "be" a daytimer being on 1110.  This will allow Costa/Eagle management the chance to further sell into the Spanish brokered market.  It would appear to be a business decision - plain and simple.

Marc Lemay
fmr. AM Drive Host (and a variety of other positions)
Costa Eagle Broadcasting

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Joe Corcoran <jwcorcoran@earthlink.net>
> Happened to be scanning 1490 this morning and heard a promo that on August 1st 
> WCCM would move to 1110 AM.  This would make the third move for WCCM in the past 
> few years, (800 orignally) and I'm assuming would free up the 1490 frequency for 
> Costa to run fulltime Spanish language progamming.
> 
> If I remember correctly, the 1110 is based in Salem, N.H. and sends most of it's 
> signal north, so I wonder how the signal will compare to 1490 in the Merrimack 
> Valley
> 
> Joe Corcoran


From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Wed Jul 25 15:46:07 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:46:07 -0400
Subject: WCCM
References: <072520071854.1563.46A79C4E000BF9CA0000061B22068150930C050303@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006601c7cef4$88eacda0$6401a8c0@DESKTOP2>


> 1110 is a very tough catch for me in Haverhill (read: darned near 
> impossible), and is even worse in the 'burbs of Groveland, Georgetown, 
> etc.  Even north of the border into Plaistow, 1110 is a tough catch. It 
> can also be considered marginal at best in parts of Methuen, Lawrence and 
> other parts of the Valley during my "airchecks" since I found out about 
> the change. <<

Just curious....

 I know 1110AM comes in pretty well in Manchester (and not that awful in 
Concord either!)

How does it do in Nashua?

Is it a stable signal?

-d 


From haverhill01835@comcast.net  Wed Jul 25 16:20:49 2007
From: haverhill01835@comcast.net (haverhill01835@comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:20:49 +0000
Subject: WCCM
Message-ID: <072520072020.13720.46A7B0A1000B67BC0000359822068150930C050303@comcast.net>

If Scott needs a pic, I actually have one (somewhere) of the marsh, I mean, weeds, I mean - towers in Salem.  I also have one of the 800 towers and shack in Andover with the new HD X-mitter.  (I'm also digging up an ID or two for Mr. Fybush, but I digress)

>From my understanding - it's 1/2 hour pre sunrise and post sunset local time to protect WBT.  When I was doing mornings on WCCM, it was always odd to walk into the building at 0430 (even earlier on snow days) and hear a WBT ID coming out of the WCEC studios (whose monitors were up WAY TOO LOUD for that hour of the morning.)

ML
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Laurence Glavin" <lglavin@mail.com>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Don A" 
> >To: haverhill01835@comcast.net, "Joe Corcoran" , BRI 
> >Subject: Re: WCCM
> >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:46:07 -0400
> > 1110 is a very tough catch for me in Haverhill (read: darned near 
> > impossible), and is even worse in the 'burbs of Groveland, 
> > Georgetown, etc. Even north of the border into Plaistow, 1110 is 
> > a tough catch. It can also be considered marginal at best in 
> > parts of Methuen, Lawrence and other parts of the Valley during 
> > my "airchecks" since I found out about the change. <<
> 
> >I know 1110AM comes in pretty well in Manchester (and not that 
> awful in Concord either!)
> >How does it do in Nashua?
> Is it a stable signal
> >-d
> 
> I remember when Scott Fybush was co-hosting "Let's Talk About Radio"
> one time, and he mentioned that he had never viewed the 1110 towers
> near the Salem/Pelham, NH line.  According to the FCC website, the 4 towers
> are about 58-degrees in height, translating to 133 feet if I remember correctly.
> (There's little chance he'll venture there for a Tower Calendar shoot,
> although July's picture is of a comparativly short unpainted array.)
> At some time in the distant past, vandals damaged one of more of the towers and 
> AM
> 1110 (I think it was WVNH at the time), went off-the-air for a protracted 
> period of time.  The signal is generally quite strong from sunrise to sunset
> where I live, but they seem to reduce power for a period of time in a 
> post-sunset authorization and it's hardly receivable then at all.  Evidently
> they don't have a pre-sunrise authorization due to WBT in Charlotte.
> 
> 
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From sean.smyth@yahoo.com  Wed Jul 25 16:03:34 2007
From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:03:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WCCM
In-Reply-To: <006601c7cef4$88eacda0$6401a8c0@DESKTOP2>
Message-ID: <271307.33561.qm@web58309.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Don A <donald_astelle@yahoo.com> wrote:
> How does it do in Nashua?
> 
> Is it a stable signal?

I live in the middle of Nashua. Since you asked, I tried hauling it in
now on my stereo. It comes in very static-y; granted, it is surrounded
by electronic equipment (a fan and my laptop). By comparison, I get no
signal whatsoever from 1400. IIRC, it has a fair signal on my car
radio. 


       
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From dan.strassberg@att.net  Wed Jul 25 17:33:59 2007
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:33:59 -0400
Subject: WCCM
References: <072520072020.13720.46A7B0A1000B67BC0000359822068150930C050303@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000a01c7cf03$a7b113c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg>

WCEC 1110 has no PSRA except in April. Their PSSA is for as little as 15
minutes (May, June) and as much as an hour (November, December, January).
The rest of the months are either 30 or 45 minutes. The April PSRA power is
10W. The PSSA powers vary between 10 and 19W, with the largest number of
months getting 18W. Of course, the powers (but probably not the times) are
subject to revision this fall. No doubt the PSSA times represent Charlotte
sunset. As a Class D AM inside of the dominant Class A's normally protected
0.5 mV/m 50% skywave contour, WCEC should not be eligible for a PSRA except
in the part of April after DST comes in (that is, the entire month now but
not quite all of it in recent years).

I may be confused, but it looks as if March PSRAs, the daypart and month
when stations like WCEC need the most help with PSRAs, have not been
affected by the DST change, which means that WCEC, WILD, and a few others
will have real late sign-ons in March. The probably reason is that extending
early sign-ons for at least some of these stations required international
cooperation and the ever-on-the-ball FCC didn't start work on the project
early enough to even begin such negotiations until after they first
published (and then rescinded) the new rules last fall.

It would not surprise me to learn that WCEC has been using a "do-it-yourself
PSRA." Costa's stations are known for such "creative engineering." If asked
about it, they would probably claim to have received verbal (that is,
non-written) authorization from somebody at the FCC. When pressed, that's
what some other daytimers have said about non-standard sign-on and sign-off
times.

--
Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net
eFax 707-215-6367

----- Original Message -----
From: <haverhill01835@comcast.net>
To: "Laurence Glavin" <lglavin@mail.com>; "Don A"
<donald_astelle@yahoo.com>; "Joe Corcoran" <jwcorcoran@earthlink.net>; "BRI"
<boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: WCCM


> If Scott needs a pic, I actually have one (somewhere) of the marsh, I
mean, weeds, I mean - towers in Salem.  I also have one of the 800 towers
and shack in Andover with the new HD X-mitter.  (I'm also digging up an ID
or two for Mr. Fybush, but I digress)
>
> >From my understanding - it's 1/2 hour pre sunrise and post sunset local
time to protect WBT.  When I was doing mornings on WCCM, it was always odd
to walk into the building at 0430 (even earlier on snow days) and hear a WBT
ID coming out of the WCEC studios (whose monitors were up WAY TOO LOUD for
that hour of the morning.)
>
> ML
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Laurence Glavin" <lglavin@mail.com>
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Don A"
> > >To: haverhill01835@comcast.net, "Joe Corcoran" , BRI
> > >Subject: Re: WCCM
> > >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:46:07 -0400
> > > 1110 is a very tough catch for me in Haverhill (read: darned near
> > > impossible), and is even worse in the 'burbs of Groveland,
> > > Georgetown, etc. Even north of the border into Plaistow, 1110 is
> > > a tough catch. It can also be considered marginal at best in
> > > parts of Methuen, Lawrence and other parts of the Valley during
> > > my "airchecks" since I found out about the change. <<
> >
> > >I know 1110AM comes in pretty well in Manchester (and not that
> > awful in Concord either!)
> > >How does it do in Nashua?
> > Is it a stable signal
> > >-d
> >
> > I remember when Scott Fybush was co-hosting "Let's Talk About Radio"
> > one time, and he mentioned that he had never viewed the 1110 towers
> > near the Salem/Pelham, NH line.  According to the FCC website, the 4
towers
> > are about 58-degrees in height, translating to 133 feet if I remember
correctly.
> > (There's little chance he'll venture there for a Tower Calendar shoot,
> > although July's picture is of a comparativly short unpainted array.)
> > At some time in the distant past, vandals damaged one of more of the
towers and
> > AM
> > 1110 (I think it was WVNH at the time), went off-the-air for a
protracted
> > period of time.  The signal is generally quite strong from sunrise to
sunset
> > where I live, but they seem to reduce power for a period of time in a
> > post-sunset authorization and it's hardly receivable then at all.
Evidently
> > they don't have a pre-sunrise authorization due to WBT in Charlotte.
> >
> >
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From me@billoneill.us  Wed Jul 25 17:43:06 2007
From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:43:06 -0400
Subject: WCCM
In-Reply-To: <000a01c7cf03$a7b113c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
References: <072520072020.13720.46A7B0A1000B67BC0000359822068150930C050303@comcast.net>
	<000a01c7cf03$a7b113c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
Message-ID: <46A7C3EA.30602@billoneill.us>

Dan Strassberg wrote:
> If asked
> about it, they would probably claim to have received verbal (that is,
> non-written) authorization from somebody at the FCC. When pressed, that's
> what some other daytimers have said about non-standard sign-on and sign-off
> times.

And the excuses go something like this <harp sftx> 

"... so...like I said I called Washington and Uncle Charlie came on the 
line nice guy and all and he said heck do what you think is right we're 
easygoing about this kind of stuff then we talked tube theory for about 
10 minutes and shared some off-color skywave jokes and...."

Bill O'Neill

From dan.strassberg@att.net  Wed Jul 25 17:44:13 2007
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:44:13 -0400
Subject: WCCM
References: <072520072020.13720.46A7B0A1000B67BC0000359822068150930C050303@comcast.net>
	<000a01c7cf03$a7b113c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
Message-ID: <001601c7cf04$f53a3580$19eefea9@dstrassberg>

Oops! I should have added "located east of the dominant Class A" between
"AM" and "inside" in the first line of the quoted material below.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Strassberg" <dan.strassberg@att.net>
To: <haverhill01835@comcast.net>; "Laurence Glavin" <lglavin@mail.com>; "Don
A" <donald_astelle@yahoo.com>; "Joe Corcoran" <jwcorcoran@earthlink.net>;
"BRI" <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: WCCM


> As a Class D AM inside of the dominant Class A's normally protected
> 0.5 mV/m 50% skywave contour, WCEC should not be eligible for a PSRA
except
> in the part of April after DST comes in (that is, the entire month now but
> not quite all of it in recent years).
>
>
> --
> Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net
> eFax 707-215-6367
>





From paul@derrynh.net  Wed Jul 25 18:02:23 2007
From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:02:23 -0400
Subject: WCCM
In-Reply-To: <072520071854.1563.46A79C4E000BF9CA0000061B22068150930C050303@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <005101c7cf07$7c34bc20$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>

I think it makes sense as the Hispanic Audience from Salem NH North is
significantly less than that from Salem southward.

-Paul Hopfgarten
Derry NH

(There's a little grocery story in Derry that has an 1980s 1110/WVNH
map/poster with businesses lined up around the perimeter..)

-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
haverhill01835@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:54 PM
To: Joe Corcoran; boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org
Subject: Re: WCCM

As of 8/1 - WCCM and WCEC programming will swap programming (Brokered
spanish will now be on 1490 and Eng. Programming will now be heard on 1110) 

If memory serves me correct - 1110 is a pretty decent So. NH radio signal,
getting into Manchester rather well.  As a matter of fact - I remember
having to pick up a contract engineer when I worked for Costa Eagle at
Manchester Airport.  Leaving Methuen, 1110 came in rather well right up to
the Manchester Airport parking facility.

1110 is a very tough catch for me in Haverhill (read: darned near
impossible), and is even worse in the 'burbs of Groveland, Georgetown, etc.
Even north of the border into Plaistow, 1110 is a tough catch. It can also
be considered marginal at best in parts of Methuen, Lawrence and other parts
of the Valley during my "airchecks" since I found out about the change.  

On the flip side, 1490 has been marginal in parts of Lawrence (esp.
Downtown) since the flip from 800 a few years back.  

IMHO: The Bottom line is that WCCM 1490 has been a "daytimer" of sorts for
sometime now: English runs from 5A-6P with some sort of Spanish programming
from 6P-5A (whether it's Red Sox baseball in Spanish or the Spanish
"Romantica" music format, or even a broker or two)  Now, it's just a
requirement for WCCM to officially "be" a daytimer being on 1110.  This will
allow Costa/Eagle management the chance to further sell into the Spanish
brokered market.  It would appear to be a business decision - plain and
simple.

Marc Lemay
fmr. AM Drive Host (and a variety of other positions)
Costa Eagle Broadcasting

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Joe Corcoran <jwcorcoran@earthlink.net>
> Happened to be scanning 1490 this morning and heard a promo that on August
1st 
> WCCM would move to 1110 AM.  This would make the third move for WCCM in
the past 
> few years, (800 orignally) and I'm assuming would free up the 1490
frequency for 
> Costa to run fulltime Spanish language progamming.
> 
> If I remember correctly, the 1110 is based in Salem, N.H. and sends most
of it's 
> signal north, so I wonder how the signal will compare to 1490 in the
Merrimack 
> Valley
> 
> Joe Corcoran


From lglavin@mail.com  Wed Jul 25 15:18:01 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:18:01 -0500
Subject: WCCM
Message-ID: <20070725191801.5EA4116427C@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joe Corcoran" 
>To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
>Subject: WCCM
>Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:13:45 -0400 (GMT-04:00)

>Happened to be scanning 1490 this morning and heard a promo that on 
>August 1st WCCM would move to 1110 AM. This would make the third 
>move for WCCM in the past few years, (800 orignally) and I'm 
>assuming would free up the 1490 frequency for Costa to run fulltime 
>Spanish language progamming.
>If I remember correctly, the 1110 is based in Salem, N.H. and sends 
>most of its signal north, so I wonder how the signal will compare 
>to 1490 in the Merrimack Valley
>Joe Corcoran

A few months ago, I noticed that WCCM no longer had a local newscast following
the network newscast on the hour at 30-past.  I posted that observation 
here, and in addition I called a WCCM talk show to discuss the lack of local
news on the station.  Bruce Arnold was in the studio at the time and said to
"stand by", that there would be further developments at Costa-Eagle soon.
So this is it.  I just visited their website,  http://www.1490wccm.com
which of course will have to be changed next week.  There was no indication 
there about the switch to 1110, and the "news" on the home page was a week old.
(In  December and January, they won't be going on-the-air until 7:00 or 7:15
am).  You know, WCCM might be a candidate for an AM/FM-translator pairing
now being considered by the FCC.  For a time, Greater Media had a CP for a
translator on 93.3...since that's a channel in use by Providence-area FM's,
94.1 and 98.1 would be further possibilities (98.1 is a bit farther away in New 
Bedford).


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From lglavin@mail.com  Wed Jul 25 16:08:09 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:08:09 -0500
Subject: WCCM
Message-ID: <20070725200809.478A51158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com>

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Don A" 
>To: haverhill01835@comcast.net, "Joe Corcoran" , BRI 
>Subject: Re: WCCM
>Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:46:07 -0400
> 1110 is a very tough catch for me in Haverhill (read: darned near 
> impossible), and is even worse in the 'burbs of Groveland, 
> Georgetown, etc. Even north of the border into Plaistow, 1110 is 
> a tough catch. It can also be considered marginal at best in 
> parts of Methuen, Lawrence and other parts of the Valley during 
> my "airchecks" since I found out about the change. <<

>I know 1110AM comes in pretty well in Manchester (and not that 
awful in Concord either!)
>How does it do in Nashua?
Is it a stable signal
>-d

I remember when Scott Fybush was co-hosting "Let's Talk About Radio"
one time, and he mentioned that he had never viewed the 1110 towers
near the Salem/Pelham, NH line.  According to the FCC website, the 4 towers
are about 58-degrees in height, translating to 133 feet if I remember correctly.
(There's little chance he'll venture there for a Tower Calendar shoot,
although July's picture is of a comparativly short unpainted array.)
At some time in the distant past, vandals damaged one of more of the towers and AM
1110 (I think it was WVNH at the time), went off-the-air for a protracted 
period of time.  The signal is generally quite strong from sunrise to sunset
where I live, but they seem to reduce power for a period of time in a 
post-sunset authorization and it's hardly receivable then at all.  Evidently
they don't have a pre-sunrise authorization due to WBT in Charlotte.


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From paul@derrynh.net  Wed Jul 25 18:10:16 2007
From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:10:16 -0400
Subject: WCCM
In-Reply-To: <20070725191801.5EA4116427C@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <005c01c7cf08$9561c890$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>

There's already a 94.1 TX in Manchester (for 96.5) which I frankly think is
unneeded, and only barely squeezes in the hash area between the Franklin NH
and Providence 94.1s

-Paul Hopfgarten
Derry NH

-----Original Message-----
From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of
Laurence Glavin
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 3:18 PM
To: Joe Corcoran; boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org
Subject: Re: WCCM

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joe Corcoran" 
>To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org
>Subject: WCCM
>Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:13:45 -0400 (GMT-04:00)

>Happened to be scanning 1490 this morning and heard a promo that on 
>August 1st WCCM would move to 1110 AM. This would make the third 
>move for WCCM in the past few years, (800 orignally) and I'm 
>assuming would free up the 1490 frequency for Costa to run fulltime 
>Spanish language progamming.
>If I remember correctly, the 1110 is based in Salem, N.H. and sends 
>most of its signal north, so I wonder how the signal will compare 
>to 1490 in the Merrimack Valley
>Joe Corcoran

A few months ago, I noticed that WCCM no longer had a local newscast
following
the network newscast on the hour at 30-past.  I posted that observation 
here, and in addition I called a WCCM talk show to discuss the lack of local
news on the station.  Bruce Arnold was in the studio at the time and said to
"stand by", that there would be further developments at Costa-Eagle soon.
So this is it.  I just visited their website,  http://www.1490wccm.com
which of course will have to be changed next week.  There was no indication 
there about the switch to 1110, and the "news" on the home page was a week
old.
(In  December and January, they won't be going on-the-air until 7:00 or 7:15
am).  You know, WCCM might be a candidate for an AM/FM-translator pairing
now being considered by the FCC.  For a time, Greater Media had a CP for a
translator on 93.3...since that's a channel in use by Providence-area FM's,
94.1 and 98.1 would be further possibilities (98.1 is a bit farther away in
New 
Bedford).


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From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Wed Jul 25 22:02:07 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:02:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WCCM
In-Reply-To: <001601c7cf04$f53a3580$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
Message-ID: <611852.52488.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


--- Dan Strassberg <dan.strassberg@att.net> wrote:

> Oops! I should have added "located east of the
> dominant Class A" between
> "AM" and "inside" in the first line of the quoted
> material below.

Whew!  I was gonna say there for a minute....


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From joe@attorneyross.com  Thu Jul 26 01:12:25 2007
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:12:25 -0500
Subject: WCCM
In-Reply-To: <46A7C3EA.30602@billoneill.us>
References: <072520072020.13720.46A7B0A1000B67BC0000359822068150930C050303@comcast.net>,
	<000a01c7cf03$a7b113c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg>,
	<46A7C3EA.30602@billoneill.us>
Message-ID: <46A7E6E9.9224.54BB58@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 25 Jul 2007 at 17:43, Bill O'Neill wrote:

> And the excuses go something like this <harp sftx> 
> 
> "... so...like I said I called Washington and Uncle Charlie came on
> the line nice guy and all and he said heck do what you think is right
> we're easygoing about this kind of stuff then we talked tube theory
> for about 10 minutes and shared some off-color skywave jokes and...."
 
Off-color skywave jokes?

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 92 State Street	                                  Fax 617.507.7856
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From madprof@ix.netcom.com  Thu Jul 26 06:16:09 2007
From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:16:09 -0400
Subject: re Re: WCCM ...off-color skywave jokes
Message-ID: <380-22007742610169937@ix.netcom.com>

hey, Joe [no, no, not meaning Jimi Hendrix song]
well, off-color.....propagation due to weather conditions might affect
rainbows' colors,
(but how see at night? [skywave time]), maybe duck, extreme pink sky.
more likely Northern Lights....color changes.....possible.
 
BUT, Bill's comments had to be all tongue-in-cheek (very well done)..... 
whoever heard of Uncle Charlie coming on line (no significant delay
mentioned),
being "a nice guy", not asserting their supreme control (saying " do what
you think is right"),
and discussing theory..... I mean do FCC people actually know theory????
 
It cracked me up ..... thank you Bill, for improving my day!
Bob Sutherland
 
hey did'ja hear the one about the lady/guy who could float on skywaves?
[no punch line].....just my head in the clouds, I mean, ionosphere.
 
 
 
 
> [Original Message]
> From: A. Joseph Ross <joe@attorneyross.com>
> To: Dan Strassberg <dan.strassberg@att.net>; Bill O'Neill
<me@billoneill.us>
> Cc: BRI <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org>; Don A
<donald_astelle@yahoo.com>
> Date: 7/26/2007 12:15:12 AM
> Subject: Re: WCCM
>
> On 25 Jul 2007 at 17:43, Bill O'Neill wrote:
>
> > And the excuses go something like this <harp sftx> 
> > 
> > "... so...like I said I called Washington and Uncle Charlie came on
> > the line nice guy and all and he said heck do what you think is right
> > we're easygoing about this kind of stuff then we talked tube theory
> > for about 10 minutes and shared some off-color skywave jokes and...."
> 
> Off-color skywave jokes?
>
> -- 
> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468
> 92 State Street Fax 617.507.7856
> Boston, MA 02109 http://www.attorneyross.com
>



From brian_vita@cssinc.com  Sat Jul 28 18:51:51 2007
From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:51:51 -0400
Subject: Watch those call letters...
Message-ID: <002901c7d169$e5a697a0$6800a8c0@lysthia>

According to the article at the attached link, the FCC issues some rather
risque call letters this week to a Maui low power digital TV station.
Anyone want to come up with the positioner for KUNT-TV?  Of course, one of
the other stations in the group is KWTF.  The article also mentions KCUF-FM
in Aspen.  I guess someone needs to check out the computer doing approving
the assignments.

Here's the link:

http://starbulletin.com/2007/07/26/business/engle.html

Brian Vita, President
Cinema Service & Supply, Inc.
77 Walnut St - Ste 4
Peabody, MA  01960-5691

Office:  (978)538-7575
Fax:     (978)538-7550

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From wollman@bimajority.org  Sat Jul 28 21:07:11 2007
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:07:11 -0400
Subject: Watch those call letters...
In-Reply-To: <002901c7d169$e5a697a0$6800a8c0@lysthia>
References: <002901c7d169$e5a697a0$6800a8c0@lysthia>
Message-ID: <18091.59455.989836.940262@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>

<<On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:51:51 -0400, "Brian Vita" <brian_vita@cssinc.com> said:

> According to the article at the attached link, the FCC issues some rather
> risque call letters this week to a Maui low power digital TV station.
> Anyone want to come up with the positioner for KUNT-TV?

Actually, if it's a low-power DTV station, it would be KUNT-LD (or
perhaps KUNT-CD if it has or gets "class A" status).

-GAWollman


From revdoug1@verizon.net  Sat Jul 28 23:12:06 2007
From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:12:06 -0400
Subject: Watch those call letters...
References: <002901c7d169$e5a697a0$6800a8c0@lysthia>
	<18091.59455.989836.940262@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <00a301c7d18e$3f469520$6501a8c0@pastor2>

Reminds me of when WCAT in Orange was rechristened WPNS.  THAT sure didn't
last long.
-Doug

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org>
To: "Brian Vita" <brian_vita@cssinc.com>
Cc: <boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:07 PM
Subject: Watch those call letters...


> <<On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:51:51 -0400, "Brian Vita" <brian_vita@cssinc.com>
said:
>
> > According to the article at the attached link, the FCC issues some
rather
> > risque call letters this week to a Maui low power digital TV station.
> > Anyone want to come up with the positioner for KUNT-TV?
>
> Actually, if it's a low-power DTV station, it would be KUNT-LD (or
> perhaps KUNT-CD if it has or gets "class A" status).
>
> -GAWollman
>


From hinsdalien@yahoo.com  Sat Jul 28 22:34:43 2007
From: hinsdalien@yahoo.com (Doug Bassett)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:34:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WCRN (was: Re: WEEI 103.7 signal)
In-Reply-To: <002c01c7c555$c14a1be0$19eefea9@dstrassberg>
Message-ID: <607487.61313.qm@web37110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Dan Strassberg <dan.strassberg@att.net> wrote:
> Anyhow, for night games, I
> don't think WCRN is very useful at points more than
> a few miles west of a
> north-south line through the transmitter site in
> Leicester, which is about
> 10 miles west-northwest of downtown Worcester.

I had the radio in my car tuned to 830 on my way home
tonight, and WCRN was coming in reasonably well (by my
standards...a non-radio geek would likely disagree). 
As I got closer to Greenfield on Route 2, there was
some fading/mixing with WEEU (which was running a
Phillies game), though for the most part WCRN was
dominant and listenable on my drive from Orange MA to
Brattleboro VT.  But I agree that the night signal
isn't very useful to the general listening public in
these parts...decent daytime signal though.

Doug Bassett
Brattleboro VT


       
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From hinsdalien@yahoo.com  Sat Jul 28 23:14:32 2007
From: hinsdalien@yahoo.com (Doug Bassett)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:14:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <004701c7c581$2c9f29f0$b722434b@YOURF7ED5FB036>
Message-ID: <799191.27105.qm@web37106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Paul Hopfgarten <paul@derrynh.net> wrote:

> (WTPL, especially with the Pats, will have board ops
> that sometimes lets all
> the Boston station content through even though it's
> quite clear to me (and
> I'm not even in the business) that the stop set is
> designed for local adds
> on affiliates

I remember from my days as a Patriots board op that
the network would occasionally stray from their own
format, or at least from the format they sent out to
stations.  This was especially true during the pre-
and post-games, when what was supposed to be a
"network" break would occasionally be full of what
were obviously intended to be "local" (WBCN) spots. 
These strayings were more common during the preseason
and became less frequent as the season went along.  Of
course there are errors at the local level too.  Once
in a while an op will "miss" a break, sometimes
intentionally.  When I would run games, I would let
their local break run if we had no paid local spots,
though I would always try and cover the ID at the end
of the break.  It sounded better that 3+ minutes of
the same tired PSAs.

Is it still true that Patriots games cannot be
automated?  It's been about 5 years since I've had to
run one.  One thing I remember is that from a traffic
standpoint is that right around the holidays day games
could be a PITA...too many spots - car dealer spots in
particular - and not enough avails for any meaningful
product separation.  Ford, Honda, Chrysler.  GM,
Subaru, Ford.  Ford, pet store, Toyota.  Etcetera, so
on and so forth.  If the local sales staff would have
had any interest in selling 30s instead of 60s (and if
the clients had any interest in buying them) it would
have been less of a problem.  That's a another rant
for a another time.

Doug Bassett
Brattleboro VT


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From scott@fybush.com  Sat Jul 28 23:23:23 2007
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:23:23 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <799191.27105.qm@web37106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <799191.27105.qm@web37106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46AC082B.8050700@fybush.com>

Doug Bassett wrote:

> Is it still true that Patriots games cannot be
> automated?  It's been about 5 years since I've had to
> run one.  One thing I remember is that from a traffic
> standpoint is that right around the holidays day games
> could be a PITA...too many spots - car dealer spots in
> particular - and not enough avails for any meaningful
> product separation.  Ford, Honda, Chrysler.  GM,
> Subaru, Ford.  Ford, pet store, Toyota.  Etcetera, so
> on and so forth.  

How many programmers still make any pretense of caring about product 
separation these days? It seems like it's more common now to hear Ford, 
Honda, Chrysler even at slow times of the year than to hear Ford, pet 
store, Toyota.

The worst (in so very many ways) seems to be local cable ad inserts - no 
attempt at all to keep competing products separated. Or to have 
consistent audio levels. Or to get the timing right so the national 
spots or programming aren't stepped on. Or to use a reasonable level of 
video compression instead of making it a sea of pixellation. Or to avoid 
the plague that is three cable-company promotional spots in a row.

If I had a buck for every time I'm shilled for the cable company's phone 
service, I could retire tomorrow. (And if they took the money they'd 
save by cutting back on the wall-to-wall promotion for the service, the 
price might just be reasonable enough that I wouldn't reject it out of 
hand!)

Sigh...I'll go back to listening to baseball on the radio. Beg pardon - 
RED SOX baseball on the radio :-)

s

From rogerkirk@ttlc.net  Sun Jul 29 00:18:58 2007
From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:18:58 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <46AC082B.8050700@fybush.com>
References: <799191.27105.qm@web37106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<46AC082B.8050700@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <46AC1532.2040901@ttlc.net>



Scott Fybush wrote:

> How many programmers still make any pretense of caring about product 
> separation these days? It seems like it's more common now to hear Ford, 
> Honda, Chrysler even at slow times of the year than to hear Ford, pet 
> store, Toyota.
> 

I heard this on WBZ (and as Dave Barry says "I am NOT making this up"):

"...this 'Subaru Dealers of New England All-Wheel Drive Traffic on the 
Threes' is brought to you by Toyota..."


From hinsdalien@yahoo.com  Sun Jul 29 10:15:56 2007
From: hinsdalien@yahoo.com (Doug Bassett)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 07:15:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <46AC082B.8050700@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <304865.36526.qm@web37114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Scott Fybush <scott@fybush.com> wrote:

> How many programmers still make any pretense of
> caring about product 
> separation these days? 

Unfortunately very few.  We still try at the station I
work for, to varying degrees of success.  To be
honest, lack of artist separation is more troublesome
to me these days than product separation.  
 
> The worst (in so very many ways) seems to be local
> cable ad inserts - no 
> attempt at all to keep competing products separated.
> Or to have 
> consistent audio levels. Or to get the timing right
> so the national 
> spots or programming aren't stepped on. Or to use a
> reasonable level of 
> video compression instead of making it a sea of
> pixellation. Or to avoid 
> the plague that is three cable-company promotional
> spots in a row.

Comcast in Brattleboro has gotten better in recent
months.  There's still the timing issue, but at least
the audio is consistent (T-W in Orange MA seems to
have no clue when it comes to audio levels).  And it
took them a while, but Comcast finally got all of the
old Adelphia promos out of rotation.  

Doug Bassett
Brattleboro VT


       
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From joe@attorneyross.com  Sun Jul 29 15:12:12 2007
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:12:12 -0500
Subject: Watch those call letters...
In-Reply-To: <00a301c7d18e$3f469520$6501a8c0@pastor2>
References: <002901c7d169$e5a697a0$6800a8c0@lysthia>,
	<00a301c7d18e$3f469520$6501a8c0@pastor2>
Message-ID: <46ACA03D.1763.27129F@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 28 Jul 2007 at 23:12, Doug Drown wrote:

> Reminds me of when WCAT in Orange was rechristened WPNS.  THAT sure
> didn't last long. -Doug
 
Isn't there a KRAP somewhere?

-- 
A. Joseph Ross, J.D.                           617.367.0468
 92 State Street	                                  Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From joe@attorneyross.com  Sun Jul 29 15:12:16 2007
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:12:16 -0500
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <304865.36526.qm@web37114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <46AC082B.8050700@fybush.com>,
	<304865.36526.qm@web37114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46ACA040.26861.2721A3@joe.attorneyross.com>

On 29 Jul 2007 at 7:15, Doug Bassett wrote:

> Unfortunately very few.  We still try at the station I
> work for, to varying degrees of success.  To be
> honest, lack of artist separation is more troublesome
> to me these days than product separation.  
 
Artist separation?  You mean you can't have Britney Spears come right 
after Justin Timberlake of Kevin Federline?

-- 
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 92 State Street	                                  Fax 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109           	         http://www.attorneyross.com



From donald_astelle@yahoo.com  Sun Jul 29 14:25:17 2007
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:25:17 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
References: <46AC082B.8050700@fybush.com>,
	<304865.36526.qm@web37114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<46ACA040.26861.2721A3@joe.attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c7d20d$d3a17490$6701a8c0@DESKTOP2>



>> To be
>> honest, lack of artist separation is more troublesome
>> to me these days than product separation.  
> 
> Artist separation?  You mean you can't have Britney Spears come right 
> after Justin Timberlake of Kevin Federline?

Ba-doom!

Not bad for a lawyer...  ;-)


From hmadjid@gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 18:20:29 2007
From: hmadjid@gmail.com (Hakim Madjid)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:20:29 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
Message-ID: <e38db3ce0707301520t4bfee717keb567eee4313a3dd@mail.gmail.com>

Roger Kirk wrote:

>I heard this on WBZ (and as Dave Barry says "I am NOT making this up"):

>"...this 'Subaru Dealers of New England All-Wheel Drive Traffic on the
>Threes' is brought to you by Toyota..."

That's actually not so far fetched. Toyota has a 20% ownership stake in Subaru.

-- 
73, de Hakim (N1ZFF)

From rogerkirk@ttlc.net  Mon Jul 30 19:07:27 2007
From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:07:27 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <e38db3ce0707301520t4bfee717keb567eee4313a3dd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e38db3ce0707301520t4bfee717keb567eee4313a3dd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46AE6F2F.5090802@ttlc.net>

Hakim Madjid wrote:

 >> "...this 'Subaru Dealers of New England All-Wheel Drive Traffic on the
 >> Threes' is brought to you by Toyota..."

 > That's actually not so far fetched. Toyota has a 20% ownership stake 
in Subaru.

I can possibly see that, however, I have also heard:

"...this 'Subaru Dealers of New England All-Wheel Drive Traffic on the
Threes' is brought to you by Ford..."

Does Ford own a stake in Subaru, also?



From markwats@comcast.net  Mon Jul 30 21:06:36 2007
From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:06:36 -0400
Subject: WCCM
References: <20070725200809.478A51158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <006d01c7d30f$0c04cd80$f1a4764c@Mark>

Laurence Glavin wrote:

> At some time in the distant past, vandals damaged one of more of the 
> towers and AM
> 1110 (I think it was WVNH at the time), went off-the-air for a protracted 
> period of time.

   IIRC one of the then-WVNH towers was toppled in 1979, late Spring or 
early Summer. I believe it was the southernmost of the 4 towers. As a 
result, they had to operate at reduced power (200 or 300 watts?) 
non-directional as the directional pattern was designed to protect the 1110 
in Providence. Ed McGee was the PD at the time, having left WLLH a few 
months earlier. The station was also supposedly going through some financial 
difficulties, and was unable to afford to have the tower replaced. Not long 
after the tower fell, McGee was overseeing an airstaff of 2 or 3 people, and 
the station cut back to operating 12 hours a day, 6:30 AM-6:30 PM. Within a 
couple of months the station's then owner threw in the towel and took the 
station dark and put it up for sale. New owners purchased the station, 
repaied the fallen tower and put it back on the air at full power sometime 
in 1980. I don't recall the name of the original ownership that put WVNH on 
the air in 1977, nor the owner who purchased it in 1980.

   A few notable names who worked at 1110 in it's WVNH days, besides the 
aforementioned Ed McGee: David Allan Boucher, longtime WMJX "Bedtime Magic" 
host, Russ Mottla, who later went on to WAAF and IIRC moved on to the 
Baltimore market, Matt Stevens, another WLLH alumnus, who was PD around 
1986, when John & Eva Hughes owned the station. Lastly, Ned French, who 
worked in Boston radio (WORL, don't know about any other stations he may 
have worked at then) in the 1940's, also WCAP's morning host for a while in 
the 1970's. He worked twice at WVNH, in 1978-79 until they went dark, and 
returned in 1985-86 as morning host, which would be his last radio job as he 
retired after leaving 1110 for the second time.

Mark Watson 



From lglavin@mail.com  Mon Jul 30 16:29:27 2007
From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:29:27 -0500
Subject: AM 1110 Reception In Lawrence
Message-ID: <20070730202928.0AB5B102ED@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com>

So in just a few hours, WCCM-AM decamps from its 5-year incumbency at 1490 on-the-dial
to a "more powerful" radio home.  Will this really result in better reception in its
ancestral hometown, Lawrence, Mass?  Maybe not.  A glance at fcc.gov's listing for 
WCEC-AM (call letters that may change after the switch) indicates that the pattern
data for its directional array yields the greatest signal strength of about 1340 mV
along an azimuth of 330 degrees, i.e. in the direction of Londonderry, NH with just
215 mV along 130 degrees, the direction in which Lawrence lies.  What kind of signal
strength will denizens of Lawrence perceive?  Here one must go to the website v-soft.com,
which provides expected signal strength for a given ZIP code.  By plugging in 01843,
the ZIP for South Lawrence, one can ascertain how well persons in the parts of Lawrence 
farthest from the AM 1110 array as well as those living in adjacent Andover and North 
Andover can expect the newly-moved WCCM to come in.  Well, for one thing, I don't
think it will be a signal that jumps out at you like WRKO, WNNW, WEEI-AM, WCAP, WBZ or
WLLH's Lawrence transmitter (when it's in operation...and BTW it's still down for repairs).
On occasions when I've driven in that area and sampled WCEC, it's just ok, nothing special
in that locale.  And what does v-soft.com have to say?  Well, WCCM at 1110 may be a skosh
WEAKER than it was when it emanated from Silver Hill in Haverhill.  AM 1490 registers
2.2 mV, WCEC just 1.55.  (The DBU figures 66.9 and 63.8 respectively)  AM 1110 is only
marginally stronger than WILD-AM on second adjacent 1090 25 miles away (I assume that this
is the reading for non-CH transmission). WILD-AM is given values of 1.08 mV and 60.5 DBU). 
And even this close to AM 1110, glimmers of WBNW-AM 1120 can be heard.  I suspect that on the
first day that WCCM is heard on 1110, a majority of the callers to their talk shows will 
claim a diminution of signal quality.


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From hmadjid@gmail.com  Tue Jul 31 14:48:20 2007
From: hmadjid@gmail.com (Hakim Madjid)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:48:20 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <46AE6F2F.5090802@ttlc.net>
References: <e38db3ce0707301520t4bfee717keb567eee4313a3dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<46AE6F2F.5090802@ttlc.net>
Message-ID: <e38db3ce0707311148j739da6bfgf1899b6ac7d25e03@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/30/07, Roger Kirk <rogerkirk@ttlc.net> wrote:
>
> I can possibly see that, however, I have also heard:
>
> "...this 'Subaru Dealers of New England All-Wheel Drive Traffic on the
> Threes' is brought to you by Ford..."
>
> Does Ford own a stake in Subaru, also?

Now *THAT* makes no sense at all. Except probably to the marketing and
/ or advertising executives at 'BZ...:)

To answer your question, BTW, Ford does not hold a stake in Subaru.



-- 
73 de Hakim (N1ZFF)

From rogerkirk@ttlc.net  Tue Jul 31 16:48:33 2007
From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:48:33 -0400
Subject: Movies On The Esplanade BZ Promos
Message-ID: <46AFA021.5020302@ttlc.net>

Around this time of year, WBZ runs promos (commercials?) for free movies 
being shown on the esplanade.  They always give a brief plot synopsis 
along with a familiar tune from the movie, but never the name of the 
movie.  Anybody know why?




From francini@mac.com  Tue Jul 31 17:10:20 2007
From: francini@mac.com (John Francini)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:10:20 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <e38db3ce0707311148j739da6bfgf1899b6ac7d25e03@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e38db3ce0707301520t4bfee717keb567eee4313a3dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<46AE6F2F.5090802@ttlc.net>
	<e38db3ce0707311148j739da6bfgf1899b6ac7d25e03@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2201E38C-B065-49CD-9D9A-886B182A6C97@mac.com>

Ford owns 25% of Mazda.  They also own a major piece of Jaguar, and  
(I believe) Volvo.

GM owns 25% of Subaru, as well as owning (I believe) 50% of Saab.

(This is why the Saab 9-2 is a badge-engineered Subaru Legacy.)

And this only scratches the surface. The current cross-ownerships  
between the Big Three and other makers are enough to make your head  
spin.

j



On 31 Jul 2007, at 14:48, Hakim Madjid wrote:

> On 7/30/07, Roger Kirk <rogerkirk@ttlc.net> wrote:
>>
>> I can possibly see that, however, I have also heard:
>>
>> "...this 'Subaru Dealers of New England All-Wheel Drive Traffic on  
>> the
>> Threes' is brought to you by Ford..."
>>
>> Does Ford own a stake in Subaru, also?
>
> Now *THAT* makes no sense at all. Except probably to the marketing and
> / or advertising executives at 'BZ...:)
>
> To answer your question, BTW, Ford does not hold a stake in Subaru.
>
>
>
> -- 
> 73 de Hakim (N1ZFF)


From kc1ih@mac.com  Tue Jul 31 21:14:37 2007
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:14:37 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <2201E38C-B065-49CD-9D9A-886B182A6C97@mac.com>
References: <e38db3ce0707301520t4bfee717keb567eee4313a3dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<46AE6F2F.5090802@ttlc.net>
	<e38db3ce0707311148j739da6bfgf1899b6ac7d25e03@mail.gmail.com>
	<2201E38C-B065-49CD-9D9A-886B182A6C97@mac.com>
Message-ID: <p06240800c2d58dea2f58@[192.168.0.100]>

At 5:10 PM -0400 7/31/07, John Francini wrote:
>Ford owns 25% of Mazda.  They also own a major piece of Jaguar, and 
>(I believe) Volvo.
>
>GM owns 25% of Subaru, as well as owning (I believe) 50% of Saab.

I thought GM sold their 25% to Toyota.

And then again, Subaru is really two separate entities.  The company 
that makes Subarus is known as Fuji Heavy Industries, which 
manufactures the cars under contract.

Which still makes the traffic report sponsorship really confusing, 
and leaves little time for the actual traffic report.

-- 
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH

From lspin@comcast.net  Tue Jul 31 21:27:38 2007
From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:27:38 -0400
Subject: Lots of avails on the WRKO Boston Red Sox Radio Network?
In-Reply-To: <p06240800c2d58dea2f58@[192.168.0.100]>
References: <e38db3ce0707301520t4bfee717keb567eee4313a3dd@mail.gmail.com><46AE6F2F.5090802@ttlc.net><e38db3ce0707311148j739da6bfgf1899b6ac7d25e03@mail.gmail.com><2201E38C-B065-49CD-9D9A-886B182A6C97@mac.com>
	<p06240800c2d58dea2f58@[192.168.0.100]>
Message-ID: <001001c7d3db$25f1ca50$6701a8c0@DAS8200>

But do we really listen to the "traffic" portion of traffic reports?  I have
to admit that I could never understand a single word that the legendary Joe
Green said in any of his reports.  I do, however, like Rich Kirkland for his
sense of humor.

-Lou

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Weil
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:15 PM


I thought GM sold their 25% to Toyota.

And then again, Subaru is really two separate entities.  The company 
that makes Subarus is known as Fuji Heavy Industries, which 
manufactures the cars under contract.

Which still makes the traffic report sponsorship really confusing, 
and leaves little time for the actual traffic report.