From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Tue Sep 5 22:02:33 2006 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: NERW Lead Story 9/4/06 Message-ID: <20060906020233.17570.qmail@web56813.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In response to the lead story in this week's NERW, looks like the new format on 107.3 FM South Bristol NY (Rochester rimshotter) will by CC's Rhythmic AC format popping up around the country, with the new Whoopi Goldberg syndicated morning show. Their new website is already coming together... http://www.snap1073.com/main.html Interestingly, it looks like they're also bringing back a couple of personalities from the former Mix 100.5 (guess they were pulling double duty at one or more of CC's other Rochester properties all this time). Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From nostaticatall@charter.net Tue Sep 5 22:40:35 2006 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:40:35 -0400 Subject: NERW Lead Story 9/4/06 In-Reply-To: <20060906020233.17570.qmail@web56813.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20060906020233.17570.qmail@web56813.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <679f176025631a1b7e0030bb6335d0ab@charter.net> This website was up late last week as the stunting began on 107.3. Someone at CC/Rochester obviously messed up and put it online too soon. They quickly took it offline and started posting all of the "poetry" that Scott mentioned (that mentioned Scott!) It looks like they are finally ready to launch the station, even though they are still in stunt mode. My guess is they'll flip the switch sometime tomorrow (Wednesday.) Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Sep 5, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Matthew Osborne wrote: > In response to the lead story in this week's NERW, > looks like the new format on 107.3 FM South Bristol NY > (Rochester rimshotter) will by CC's Rhythmic AC format > popping up around the country, with the new Whoopi > Goldberg syndicated morning show. Their new website > is already coming together... > > http://www.snap1073.com/main.html > > Interestingly, it looks like they're also bringing > back a couple of personalities from the former Mix > 100.5 (guess they were pulling double duty at one or > more of CC's other Rochester properties all this > time). From scott@fybush.com Tue Sep 5 22:43:54 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:43:54 -0400 Subject: NERW Lead Story 9/4/06 In-Reply-To: <20060906020233.17570.qmail@web56813.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20060906020233.17570.qmail@web56813.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44FE35EA.6030802@fybush.com> Y'all been had, son. :-) I'm pretty sure that was a quickly-hashed-together stunt page put together just to get the message boards and mailing lists buzzing. It's been up for a few days now, but no sign of any REAL end to the "Huge" stunting on the air. s Matthew Osborne wrote: > In response to the lead story in this week's NERW, > looks like the new format on 107.3 FM South Bristol NY > (Rochester rimshotter) will by CC's Rhythmic AC format > popping up around the country, with the new Whoopi > Goldberg syndicated morning show. Their new website > is already coming together... > > http://www.snap1073.com/main.html > > Interestingly, it looks like they're also bringing > back a couple of personalities from the former Mix > 100.5 (guess they were pulling double duty at one or > more of CC's other Rochester properties all this > time). > > Matt Osborne > Schenectady, NY > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From scott@fybush.com Wed Sep 6 09:30:06 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:30:06 -0400 Subject: NERW Lead Story 9/4/06 In-Reply-To: <679f176025631a1b7e0030bb6335d0ab@charter.net> References: <20060906020233.17570.qmail@web56813.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <679f176025631a1b7e0030bb6335d0ab@charter.net> Message-ID: <44FECD5E.7020704@fybush.com> David Tomm wrote: > This website was up late last week as the stunting began on 107.3. > Someone at CC/Rochester obviously messed up and put it online too soon. > They quickly took it offline and started posting all of the "poetry" > that Scott mentioned (that mentioned Scott!) > > It looks like they are finally ready to launch the station, even though > they are still in stunt mode. My guess is they'll flip the switch > sometime tomorrow (Wednesday.) Noon, to be precise. Given how cheaply a URL can be registered, and how quickly a plausible-looking website can be constructed using a basic corporate template, it's become really easy to create "smokescreen" websites that just "happen" to be discovered by "accident" in the midst of a format-flip stunt. I still maintain that that's probably what "Snap" was/is - but we'll see for sure in a few hours... s From scott@fybush.com Wed Sep 6 12:01:37 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:01:37 -0400 Subject: NERW Lead Story 9/4/06 In-Reply-To: <679f176025631a1b7e0030bb6335d0ab@charter.net> References: <20060906020233.17570.qmail@web56813.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <679f176025631a1b7e0030bb6335d0ab@charter.net> Message-ID: <44FEF0E1.3090208@fybush.com> And lo and behold...it IS "Snap," at least for now. s David Tomm wrote: > This website was up late last week as the stunting began on 107.3. > Someone at CC/Rochester obviously messed up and put it online too soon. > They quickly took it offline and started posting all of the "poetry" > that Scott mentioned (that mentioned Scott!) > > It looks like they are finally ready to launch the station, even though > they are still in stunt mode. My guess is they'll flip the switch > sometime tomorrow (Wednesday.) > > Dave Tomm > "Mike Thomas" > > > On Sep 5, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Matthew Osborne wrote: > >> In response to the lead story in this week's NERW, >> looks like the new format on 107.3 FM South Bristol NY >> (Rochester rimshotter) will by CC's Rhythmic AC format >> popping up around the country, with the new Whoopi >> Goldberg syndicated morning show. Their new website >> is already coming together... >> >> http://www.snap1073.com/main.html >> >> Interestingly, it looks like they're also bringing >> back a couple of personalities from the former Mix >> 100.5 (guess they were pulling double duty at one or >> more of CC's other Rochester properties all this >> time). > From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Wed Sep 6 12:28:15 2006 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 09:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: NERW Lead Story 9/4/06 In-Reply-To: <44FEF0E1.3090208@fybush.com> Message-ID: <20060906162816.78855.qmail@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> What's best, the old "Nerve" website is still online. http://1073thenerve.com/main.html Check out the playlist - I have to admit seeing 'Off The Wall' by Michael Jackson in the "Now Playing" section of such a hard core male oriented website, as well as the last 10 songs played being country leading up to the actual switch is rather funny Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY P.S - How many people here actually listened to the switch, either online or over the air? --- Scott Fybush wrote: > And lo and behold...it IS "Snap," at least for now. > > s > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From scott@fybush.com Wed Sep 6 13:24:17 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:24:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: NERW Lead Story 9/4/06 In-Reply-To: <20060906162816.78855.qmail@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <44FEF0E1.3090208@fybush.com> <20060906162816.78855.qmail@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <58267.66.195.169.98.1157563457.squirrel@webmail7.pair.com> > P.S - How many people here actually listened to the > switch, either online or over the air? I would bet that I'm the only one - at least on THIS list - listening over the air! (The aircheck of the flip, such as it was, is now up at tophour.net, btw...) s From fox893@yahoo.com Wed Sep 6 14:50:27 2006 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: NERW Lead Story 9/4/06 In-Reply-To: <20060906020233.17570.qmail@web56813.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060906185027.96223.qmail@web39102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> listening online, and assuming the web feed is similar to the air feed... Sounds rather lackluster. Gwen/Eve's Rich Girl has been edited to eliminate the rap. It also seems to have been pitched down slightly. Haven't heard jocks yet, but the imaging is pretty bland for a rhythmic station. Yes, I know it is adult targeted, but I have heard more flash and energy from soft AC imaging! Still, it is interesting to listen to for the music mix alone. Magic 104 North Conway, NH V: (603)356-8870 F: (603)356-8875 ***Commercial Production Demo at: http://cooperfox.voice123.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Sep 6 15:00:01 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:00:01 -0400 Subject: Globe on poss. of Ch 7 buying 56 Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609061200m6394a6d1kea747f4e83aedcf@mail.gmail.com> A few weeks back, the Herald's Inside Track had the story,and now it appears in the biz section of El Globo. Will we soon see "7News at 10 on CW56"? The article says Ch 7 could just put their news operation on 56 as well... http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2006/09/06/miami_owner_of_whdh_in_talks_to_acquire_wlvi/ >>The station purchase is expected to be disclosed in the coming weeks and will give NBC affiliate WHDH control over two local news broadcasts, which will be consolidated at WHDH's Boston headquarters, the executive said. From hykker@grolen.com Wed Sep 6 16:13:10 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (Steve Ordinetz) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: NERW Lead Story 9/4/06 In-Reply-To: <20060906162816.78855.qmail@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <44FEF0E1.3090208@fybush.com> <20060906162816.78855.qmail@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <36959.63.115.16.143.1157573590.squirrel@63.115.16.143> Matt Osborne wrote... > What's best, the old "Nerve" website is still online. > > http://1073thenerve.com/main.html > > Check out the playlist - I have to admit seeing 'Off > The Wall' by Michael Jackson in the "Now Playing" > section of such a hard core male oriented website, as > well as the last 10 songs played being country leading > up to the actual switch is rather funny > > > Schenectady, NY > When I click on that link it takes me to the site for "100.5 The Drive"....looks like a gold-based altrock station by the last 10 songs played list. From lglavin@mail.com Wed Sep 6 17:58:44 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:58:44 -0500 Subject: WILD AM&FM Underwriting Messages Still On Tavis Smiley Show Message-ID: <20060906215844.7C1D31158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Last week I mentioned that by pure happenstance (is there ever any soiled happenstance?) I observed the opening of The Tavis Smiley Show on WGBX-TV, wherein an underwriting message for WILD-FM appeared. It used the slogan that WILD-FM used in the recent past BEFORE the WAAF handoff; later, at the conclusion of the Tavis :) show, WGBX-TV ran an underwriting message by WILD-AM, News-Talk 1090 (no more!). That was in late August just a few days after the switcheroo...so I once again taped the intros and outros of the Tavis :) airings first on WGBX-TV and then again on WGBH-TV. The messages are still there, only a promo for WILD-AM leads, and one for WILD-FM closes the presentation. So in a new month, the underwriting messages are still there and have not been altered to reflect the new reality. If anyone at WILD-AM is on the ball, and if a contract to keep WILD promos on the air is still in effect, they should quickly write new ones for WILD-AM alone. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From nostaticatall@charter.net Wed Sep 6 23:33:39 2006 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:33:39 -0400 Subject: WILD AM&FM Underwriting Messages Still On Tavis Smiley Show In-Reply-To: <20060906215844.7C1D31158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060906215844.7C1D31158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <8db8aefb7159514d83f1daa71b244623@charter.net> I'm sure Radio One would do that, if they actually cared anymore. With the sale of the FM, R1 is pretty much done doing business in Boston. They flipped the format of the AM simply to prep for it's eventual sale. Most of the staff at Radio One/Boston have already been let go. They may not even have a sales staff anymore. Underwriting announcements on public television isn't anywhere on their radar screen. They're too busy seeking out potential buyers for 1090 so they can get out of this market. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Sep 6, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Last week I mentioned that by pure happenstance (is there ever any > soiled happenstance?) > I observed the opening of The Tavis Smiley Show on WGBX-TV, wherein an > underwriting > message for WILD-FM appeared. It used the slogan that WILD-FM used in > the recent past > BEFORE the WAAF handoff; later, at the conclusion of the Tavis :) > show, WGBX-TV > ran an underwriting message by WILD-AM, News-Talk 1090 (no more!). > That was in late August just a few days after the switcheroo...so I > once > again taped the intros and outros of the Tavis :) airings first on > WGBX-TV > and then again on WGBH-TV. The messages are still there, only a promo > for WILD-AM > leads, and one for WILD-FM closes the presentation. So in a new > month, the > underwriting messages are still there and have not been altered to > reflect > the new reality. If anyone at WILD-AM is on the ball, and if a > contract to > keep WILD promos on the air is still in effect, they should quickly > write new > ones for WILD-AM alone. > > > -- > ___________________________________________________ > Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ > From scott@fybush.com Wed Sep 6 23:43:47 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:43:47 -0400 Subject: WILD AM&FM Underwriting Messages Still On Tavis Smiley Show In-Reply-To: <8db8aefb7159514d83f1daa71b244623@charter.net> References: <20060906215844.7C1D31158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> <8db8aefb7159514d83f1daa71b244623@charter.net> Message-ID: <44FF9573.1060906@fybush.com> Anybody know what Mrs. Nash is doing these days, and if she'd have any interest in taking the AM back, probably for a lot less than R1 paid her a few years ago? s David Tomm wrote: > I'm sure Radio One would do that, if they actually cared anymore. With > the sale of the FM, R1 is pretty much done doing business in Boston. > They flipped the format of the AM simply to prep for it's eventual > sale. Most of the staff at Radio One/Boston have already been let go. > They may not even have a sales staff anymore. Underwriting > announcements on public television isn't anywhere on their radar > screen. They're too busy seeking out potential buyers for 1090 so they > can get out of this market. > > Dave Tomm > "Mike Thomas" > > > On Sep 6, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: > >> Last week I mentioned that by pure happenstance (is there ever any >> soiled happenstance?) >> I observed the opening of The Tavis Smiley Show on WGBX-TV, wherein an >> underwriting >> message for WILD-FM appeared. It used the slogan that WILD-FM used in >> the recent past >> BEFORE the WAAF handoff; later, at the conclusion of the Tavis :) >> show, WGBX-TV >> ran an underwriting message by WILD-AM, News-Talk 1090 (no more!). >> That was in late August just a few days after the switcheroo...so I once >> again taped the intros and outros of the Tavis :) airings first on >> WGBX-TV >> and then again on WGBH-TV. The messages are still there, only a promo >> for WILD-AM >> leads, and one for WILD-FM closes the presentation. So in a new >> month, the >> underwriting messages are still there and have not been altered to >> reflect >> the new reality. If anyone at WILD-AM is on the ball, and if a >> contract to >> keep WILD promos on the air is still in effect, they should quickly >> write new >> ones for WILD-AM alone. >> >> >> -- >> ___________________________________________________ >> Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ >> > From stephanie@gordsven.com Thu Sep 7 10:02:01 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:02:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WILD AM&FM Underwriting Messages Still On Tavis Smiley Show In-Reply-To: <44FF9573.1060906@fybush.com> References: <20060906215844.7C1D31158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> <8db8aefb7159514d83f1daa71b244623@charter.net> <44FF9573.1060906@fybush.com> Message-ID: <58023.12.37.144.130.1157637721.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> On Wed, September 6, 2006 23:43, Scott Fybush wrote: > Anybody know what Mrs. Nash is doing these days, and if she'd have any > interest in taking the AM back, probably for a lot less than R1 paid her > a few years ago? Probably happily retired and glad she was able to dump that pig for a nice price? :) -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Thu Sep 7 13:53:42 2006 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: NERW Lead Story 9/4/06 In-Reply-To: <36959.63.115.16.143.1157573590.squirrel@63.115.16.143> Message-ID: <20060907175342.4169.qmail@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --- Steve Ordinetz wrote, in response to my comment: > > > What's best, the old "Nerve" website is still > online. > > > > http://1073thenerve.com/main.html > > > > Check out the playlist - I have to admit seeing > 'Off > > The Wall' by Michael Jackson in the "Now Playing" > > section of such a hard core male oriented website, > as > > well as the last 10 songs played being country > leading > > up to the actual switch is rather funny > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > When I click on that link it takes me to the site > for "100.5 The > Drive"....looks like a gold-based altrock station by > the last 10 songs > played list. > It appears they've now changed that URL to point to 100.5 The Drive's website. I do have a couple screenshots I took of it right after the change though, before they shut it down, with all the rock and male oriented material on still on it, but having a playlist of country songs and the first 5 songs of the new format, with "Off The Wall" by Michael Jackson and "Bad Girls" by Donna Summer showing in the 'Now Playing' section. I guess I find it rather humorous in a simple and silly way... As far as the format goes, I've listened to their web stream on and off, and it sounds to me like nothing more than an updated "Jammin Oldies" format, with some newer stuff thrown in, but a heavy reliance on disco and uptempo oldies. I don't hold much hope for its long term survival if this is the way the format will always be. Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ssmyth@psualum.com Thu Sep 7 14:24:23 2006 From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:24:23 -0400 Subject: WILD AM&FM Underwriting Messages Still On Tavis Smiley Show In-Reply-To: <58023.12.37.144.130.1157637721.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> References: <20060906215844.7C1D31158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> <8db8aefb7159514d83f1daa71b244623@charter.net> <44FF9573.1060906@fybush.com> <58023.12.37.144.130.1157637721.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:02:01 -0400 (EDT) "Stephanie Weil" wrote: > >On Wed, September 6, 2006 23:43, Scott Fybush wrote: >> Anybody know what Mrs. Nash is doing these days, and if >she'd have any >> interest in taking the AM back, probably for a lot less than >R1 paid her >> a few years ago? > >Probably happily retired and glad she was able to dump that >pig for a nice >price? :) WILD's signal might stink, but I'd say the station is hardly a "pig." ISTR Mrs. Nash also had some health problems, but that's my faulty memory speaking. Scott, do you think they'd unload it that cheap? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Sep 9 12:57:30 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:57:30 -0400 Subject: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609090957t29b3ae65pedde5f5ca53829cf@mail.gmail.com> ---I'm guessing major league baseball playoffs will once again be carried locally on WAMG 890/WLLH 1400 as part of ESPN. If the Red Sox pull off a major miracle (sigh) and make it in, those games of course will be on WEEI, but it looks unlikely for the Sox... (where I work, and I work nights, the ESPN stations don't really come in and I have to try and pick up a signal from NYC or Baltimore and use one of those mini FM transmitters, due to major interference. While some may give up on baseball once Sox are eliminated, I actually am still interested, right up to the last out of the World Series. But of course I get to see TV coverage on nights off! --NFL games other than Patriots--where will they be? The other night when the Steelers-Dolphins game was taking place, I was surprised to find it on WEEI (Sox had night off). I had thought "probably ESPN, so not on WEEI..." I guess Westwood One does at least some national coverage--Sunday night, Monday night, maybe even some Sunday afternoon coverage. WEEI used to carry Monday night football but I can't remember if they did it last year, or will this year... WESX and WJDA used to run some NFL games, but now that they're Spanish, I don't know... -- Are the B's still with 'BZ? Haven't heard a peep about them going to another station so I guess so. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Sep 9 13:20:19 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 13:20:19 -0400 Subject: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... In-Reply-To: <200609091314728.SM02536@66.94.32.4> References: <200609091314728.SM02536@66.94.32.4> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609091020k50edd95cpc980370dd96f41b3@mail.gmail.com> On 9/9/06, rogerkirk wrote: > It just so happens that yesterday I heard an announcement inviting me > > to "...tune to WBZ where we carry ALL the Bruins' games..." OK, good to know! There had been a messageboard post somewhere from someone who thought that the contract had expired. Guess not! So, as before, we have Entercom doing the broadcasts for two teams--Red Sox on WRKO next year with some games airing on WEEI; Celtics on WRKO; and CBS running Pats on WBCN and B's on 'BZ. From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Sun Sep 10 22:03:41 2006 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:03:41 -0400 Subject: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... References: <1fbbbced0609090957t29b3ae65pedde5f5ca53829cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000e01c6d546$81e47d60$229b4c0c@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Nelson To: Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:57 PM Subject: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... > ---I'm guessing major league baseball playoffs will once again be > carried locally on WAMG 890/WLLH 1400 as part of ESPN. If the Red Sox > pull off a major miracle (sigh) and make it in, those games of course > will be on WEEI, but it looks unlikely for the Sox... (where I work, > and I work nights, the ESPN stations don't really come in and I have > to try and pick up a signal from NYC or Baltimore Baltimore's probably your best bet. WFAN will have Mets postseason games, but the out-of-market games are exclusive to 1050 (WEPN), which doesn't put much of a signal into Hartford at night, let alone Boston. > > WESX and WJDA used to run some NFL games, but now that they're > Spanish, I don't know... > Have the high school games that 'ESX and 'JDA used to carry ended up somewhere else this year? WBOQ? WNSH? I've always enjoyed scanning the AM dial and hearing all that HS football on Thanksgiving Day every year. Howard From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Sep 11 01:27:04 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:27:04 -0400 Subject: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... In-Reply-To: <000e01c6d546$81e47d60$229b4c0c@oemcomputer> References: <1fbbbced0609090957t29b3ae65pedde5f5ca53829cf@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c6d546$81e47d60$229b4c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609102227n1326777fq523d4f986886dddf@mail.gmail.com> On 9/10/06, Howard Glazer wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > Baltimore's probably your best bet. WFAN will have Mets postseason games, > but the out-of-market games are exclusive to 1050 (WEPN), which doesn't put > much of a signal into Hartford at night, let alone Boston. Yes, WBAL, or maybe WPOP out of Hartford...WEPN might come in from time to time up here, actually. In the past I could pick them up for late afternoon/early evening playoff games, but isn't WBZ running IBOC or something during daylight hours, making a station like tough to get?...At nights sometimes you'd be surprised what my car radio can pick up--once in awhile, the 670 in Chicago (WSCR?) despite my proximity to WRKO, and KDKA 1020 in Pitt. despite proximity to WBZ. > Have the high school games that 'ESX and 'JDA used to carry ended up > somewhere else this year? WBOQ? WNSH? I've always enjoyed scanning the AM > dial and hearing all that HS football on Thanksgiving Day every year. I think WBOQ is doing some Friday night football--once the Sox season ends in a couple weeks, at least...Prob. not WNSH...but who knows. From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Mon Sep 11 09:08:27 2006 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:08:27 -0400 Subject: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... References: <1fbbbced0609090957t29b3ae65pedde5f5ca53829cf@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c6d546$81e47d60$229b4c0c@oemcomputer> <1fbbbced0609102227n1326777fq523d4f986886dddf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000e01c6d5a3$5f731180$7b804c0c@oemcomputer> Bob Nelson wrote: > > I think WBOQ is doing some Friday night football--once the Sox season > ends in a couple weeks, at least...Prob. not WNSH...but who knows. That covers the North Shore, I guess, although my alma mater (Swampscott) still plays all of its home games on Saturday afternoons -- and 10 a.m. on Thanksgiving Day, of course -- so a Friday night package does it no good. I assume WBOQ is where the Salem-Beverly Thanksgiving game, a staple of WESX's coverage, will air, unless Gloucester High takes priority, but I recall WESX running other games on tape after Salem-Beverly ended. I wonder if WBOQ will do the same. How about the South Shore schools that WJDA carried? I know WATD had at least a Thanksgiving game or two, but there aren't any other community-type stations between Boston and the Cape to pick up the remainder, outside of WBET in Brockton, right? Howard From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Mon Sep 11 12:07:09 2006 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:07:09 -0400 Subject: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... References: <1fbbbced0609090957t29b3ae65pedde5f5ca53829cf@mail.gmail.com><000e01c6d546$81e47d60$229b4c0c@oemcomputer><1fbbbced0609102227n1326777fq523d4f986886dddf@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c6d5a3$5f731180$7b804c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <000801c6d5bc$55ba04a0$a7483518@DG07P241> Does WPLM AM do football games? Paul Sandwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Glazer" To: "Bob Nelson" ; Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: Re: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... > > Bob Nelson wrote: > > > > I think WBOQ is doing some Friday night football--once the Sox season > > ends in a couple weeks, at least...Prob. not WNSH...but who knows. > > That covers the North Shore, I guess, although my alma mater (Swampscott) > still plays all of its home games on Saturday afternoons -- and 10 a.m. on > Thanksgiving Day, of course -- so a Friday night package does it no good. I > assume WBOQ is where the Salem-Beverly Thanksgiving game, a staple of WESX's > coverage, will air, unless Gloucester High takes priority, but I recall WESX > running other games on tape after Salem-Beverly ended. I wonder if WBOQ will > do the same. > > How about the South Shore schools that WJDA carried? I know WATD had at > least a Thanksgiving game or two, but there aren't any other community-type > stations between Boston and the Cape to pick up the remainder, outside of > WBET in Brockton, right? > > Howard > > > From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Sep 11 12:54:30 2006 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0609090957t29b3ae65pedde5f5ca53829cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060911165430.52272.qmail@web30709.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Bob Nelson wrote: > > --NFL games other than Patriots--where will they be? WSMN 1590 Nashua ands WKBR 1250 Manchester had Westwood One football this past Thursday for the NFL's opening night. I was in (North) Conway NH over the weekend so I don't know if these stations carried any other NFL games other than the Patriot's (which they do broadcast) over the weekend. John B Derry NH From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Sep 11 15:39:08 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:39:08 -0400 Subject: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... In-Reply-To: References: <000801c6d5bc$55ba04a0$a7483518@DG07P241> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609111239i595540cbhc4ee2de5137befc5@mail.gmail.com> Not sure what South Shore stations would do games...WMSX 1410? WATD? On 9/11/06, Michael E wrote: > > I was scanning the dial for NFL games yesterday post-Patriots. The network > that WATD used to use is now carried on ESPN 890. From jjlehmann@comcast.net Mon Sep 11 17:44:43 2006 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:44:43 -0400 Subject: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... In-Reply-To: AAAAANAIlGo8EmdDjxy6C1pkI1jE+yQA Message-ID: <002401c6d5eb$7e0a6880$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> I have heard 1390 WPLM broadcasting a game on Thanksgiving in past years. I'm not sure if they do any others though. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Paul B. Currier Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:07 PM To: Howard Glazer; Bob Nelson; boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... Does WPLM AM do football games? Paul Sandwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Glazer" To: "Bob Nelson" ; Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: Re: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... > > Bob Nelson wrote: > > > > I think WBOQ is doing some Friday night football--once the Sox season > > ends in a couple weeks, at least...Prob. not WNSH...but who knows. > > That covers the North Shore, I guess, although my alma mater (Swampscott) > still plays all of its home games on Saturday afternoons -- and 10 a.m. on > Thanksgiving Day, of course -- so a Friday night package does it no good. I > assume WBOQ is where the Salem-Beverly Thanksgiving game, a staple of WESX's > coverage, will air, unless Gloucester High takes priority, but I recall WESX > running other games on tape after Salem-Beverly ended. I wonder if WBOQ will > do the same. > > How about the South Shore schools that WJDA carried? I know WATD had at > least a Thanksgiving game or two, but there aren't any other community-type > stations between Boston and the Cape to pick up the remainder, outside of > WBET in Brockton, right? > > Howard > > > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Sep 11 21:52:52 2006 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HD outside of Boston....? Message-ID: <20060912015252.83046.qmail@web55302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Just wondering... Are any stations north of Boston in the suburbs doing the "HD thing"? Anyone in NH or maine? Worcester? Thanks! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jjlehmann@comcast.net Mon Sep 11 23:10:08 2006 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:10:08 -0400 Subject: HD outside of Boston....? In-Reply-To: AAAAANAIlGo8EmdDjxy6C1pkI1jE/SQA Message-ID: <002801c6d618$fa0a5c60$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > Just wondering... > > Are any stations north of Boston in the suburbs doing > the "HD thing"? > > Anyone in NH or maine? 95.7 WZID Manchester 89.1 WEVO Concord 90.1 WMEA Portland (and other Maine NPR stations) 93.1 WMGX Portand 1490 WBAE Portland > > Worcester? 580 WTAG 96.1 WSRS There are also many stations in Providence and Hartford using it. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Sep 12 00:32:09 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:32:09 -0400 Subject: Radio in the tunnel Message-ID: <45060009.21201.5ECBBA@localhost> While driving through the Tip O'Neill Tunnel today and listening to Air America Radio, I noticed that I had no problem receiving AM 1430 in the tunnel. In fact, I thought the station became slightly stronger as I entered the tunnel. Does the Big Dig have any sort of radio repeaters in the tunnel? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From m1bz@hotmail.com Mon Sep 11 12:59:49 2006 From: m1bz@hotmail.com (Michael E) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:59:49 -0400 Subject: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... In-Reply-To: <000801c6d5bc$55ba04a0$a7483518@DG07P241> Message-ID: I was scanning the dial for NFL games yesterday post-Patriots. The network that WATD used to use is now carried on ESPN 890. >From: "Paul B. Currier" >To: "Howard Glazer" , "Bob Nelson" >, > >Subject: Re: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... >Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:07:09 -0400 > >Does WPLM AM do football games? > >Paul >Sandwich >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Howard Glazer" >To: "Bob Nelson" ; > >Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:08 AM >Subject: Re: MLB playoffs, NFL, Bruins... > > > > > > Bob Nelson wrote: > > > > > > I think WBOQ is doing some Friday night football--once the Sox season > > > ends in a couple weeks, at least...Prob. not WNSH...but who knows. > > > > That covers the North Shore, I guess, although my alma mater >(Swampscott) > > still plays all of its home games on Saturday afternoons -- and 10 a.m. >on > > Thanksgiving Day, of course -- so a Friday night package does it no >good. >I > > assume WBOQ is where the Salem-Beverly Thanksgiving game, a staple of >WESX's > > coverage, will air, unless Gloucester High takes priority, but I recall >WESX > > running other games on tape after Salem-Beverly ended. I wonder if WBOQ >will > > do the same. > > > > How about the South Shore schools that WJDA carried? I know WATD had at > > least a Thanksgiving game or two, but there aren't any other >community-type > > stations between Boston and the Cape to pick up the remainder, outside >of > > WBET in Brockton, right? > > > > Howard > > > > > > > > From readaaron@friedbagels.com Tue Sep 12 10:42:43 2006 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:42:43 -0400 Subject: Radio in the tunnel Message-ID: <4506C763.2030200@friedbagels.com> While driving through the Tip O'Neill Tunnel today and listening to Air America Radio, I noticed that I had no problem receiving AM 1430 in the tunnel. In fact, I thought the station became slightly stronger as I entered the tunnel. Does the Big Dig have any sort of radio repeaters in the tunnel? -------- Short answer: yes, they do. Long answer: there was an article in the Globe, I think, about this...the top 20 stations in the market were chosen and repeated (probably on a radiating-cable AM/FM system from LPB) in the Big Dig tunnels. The system doesn't work throughout ALL the tunnels...there's a few weaker areas; I suspect that part of the tunnel infrastructure only has one radiating cable (probably Andrew NF2D or a similar cable) for both tunnels, and Part 15 will only do so much. WTBU at Boston University uses a RCFM system for their Warren Towers and West Campus dorms to broadcast on 89.3FM. I believe Bentley College has a similar system for WBTY. Anyways, the article was about the minor bit of controversy caused because someone decided to bump one station in favor of putting WFNX on the system, which wasn't in the Top 20 of the ratings (presumably the Arbitron 12+ rankings). IIRC 20 stations is about the realistic limit these systems can handle; the cable itself can radiate more but the AM & FM modulators and isolation filters are not cheap. Audio is, I'm pretty sure, supplied by tuners on the surface somewhere. I was driving through the tunnels at sunset once while listening to WEEI and heard the 2-second dropout as they changed to night pattern, even though I was clearly listening to a rebroadcasted signal (waaaaay too deep underground to be the actual 850AM signal from Needham) I've noticed that in some places in the tunnel, WHRB and WERS will come in. I doubt they're on the re-radiating system, but I guess they're physically close enough from One Financial Center to penetrate the ground. WFNX probably does that now, too. -- -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com www.friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02246 Fried Bagels - Broadcast Radio & Web Engineering & Operations Consultant From Joe@attorneyross.com Tue Sep 12 15:50:43 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:50:43 -0400 Subject: Radio in the tunnel In-Reply-To: <4506C763.2030200@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <4506D753.25178.467A8B@localhost> On 12 Sep 2006 Aaron Read wrote: > Short answer: yes, they do. > > Long answer: there was an article in the Globe, I think, about > this...the top 20 stations in the market were chosen and repeated > (probably on a radiating-cable AM/FM system from LPB) in the Big Dig > tunnels. The system doesn't work throughout ALL the tunnels...there's > a few weaker areas; I suspect that part of the tunnel infrastructure > only has one radiating cable (probably Andrew NF2D or a similar cable) > for both tunnels, and Part 15 will only do so much. Air America is in the top 20? > Anyways, the article was about the minor bit of controversy caused > because someone decided to bump one station in favor of putting WFNX > on the system, which wasn't in the Top 20 of the ratings (presumably > the Arbitron 12+ rankings). I thought only AM stations couldn't penetrate tunnels. I don't usually find FM stations fading in tunnels. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Sep 12 17:45:13 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:45:13 -0400 Subject: Radio in the tunnel References: <4506D753.25178.467A8B@localhost> Message-ID: <001401c6d6b4$bea3c8e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> That's the whole point of rebroadcasting AM signals in tunnels. The technology of the current embodiment may (or may not) be different from that of the old Tunnel Radio in the South Station Tunnel, but Boston's Tunnel Radio was an early embodiment of rebroadcasting AM stations in vehicular tunnels. I don't know about FM signals penetrating tunnels, but I find it hard to believe that, without help, FM signals would penetrate very far into long under-water vehicular tunnels, such as the Sumner, Callahan, or Ted Williams. The Tip O'Neill Tunnel may be different because it's not (intentionally, at least) under water. And even when it is unintentionally under water, it isn't very far under water. (Probably enough to drown in, though.) -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Aaron Read" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: Re: Radio in the tunnel > > I thought only AM stations couldn't penetrate tunnels. I don't > usually find FM stations fading in tunnels. > From readaaron@friedbagels.com Tue Sep 12 16:46:27 2006 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:46:27 -0400 Subject: Radio in the tunnel In-Reply-To: <4506D753.25178.467A8B@localhost> References: <4506D753.25178.467A8B@localhost> Message-ID: <45071CA3.9050905@friedbagels.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > Air America is in the top 20? > >> Anyways, the article was about the minor bit of controversy caused >> because someone decided to bump one station in favor of putting WFNX >> on the system, which wasn't in the Top 20 of the ratings (presumably >> the Arbitron 12+ rankings). > > I thought only AM stations couldn't penetrate tunnels. I don't > usually find FM stations fading in tunnels. > Well, being in a tunnel means you've got dirt, steel, power & communications cabling, concrete, etc. either providing signal attenuation or increasing the noise floor. Different frequencies are more or less susceptible to attenuation by different materials, and AM & FM technologies are different on how much signal (above the noise) is required to successfully decode an audio signal (true for analog or digital). AM signals are more susceptible to tunnel signal attenuation than FM signals are, but parts of the Big Dig are 120ft below street level (that's the area under Dewey Square)...unless you've got a very powerful signal hitting the street level to begin with...that 120ft is going to provide some serious shielding/attenuation. Ditto for the Ted Williams which is roughly 90ft below sea level. Concordantly, in the area near Government Center, where the Big Dig tunnel goes over the Blue Line tunnel, so it's so close to the surface that the roof of the tunnel is practically the street itself above. Many FM's can penetrate that. The Sumner and Callahan Tunnels do have an added wrinkle in that they're (VERY loosely speaking) more-or-less in line with FM RF coming off the Pru...so you might not see much fading of Pru-based stations when you're in those tunnels; the walls act as a natural conduit for the RF and the Pru stations are all pumping out some hefty ERP to begin with. You will see fading of most non-Pru stations, though. -- -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com www.friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02246 Fried Bagels - Broadcast Radio & Web Engineering & Operations Consultant From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu Sep 14 14:48:25 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:48:25 -0400 Subject: Radio in the tunnel Message-ID: > > From: Aaron Read > CC: bri@bostonradio.org > To: "A. Joseph Ross" > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:46:27 -0400 > Subject: Re: Radio in the tunnel > > A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > > > I thought only AM stations couldn't penetrate tunnels. I > > don't usually find FM stations fading in tunnels. > > The Sumner and Callahan Tunnels do have an added wrinkle in > that they're (VERY loosely speaking) more-or-less in line > with FM RF coming off the Pru...so you might not see much > fading of Pru-based stations when you're in those tunnels; > the walls act as a natural conduit for the RF and the Pru > stations are all pumping out some hefty ERP to begin with. > You will see fading of most non-Pru stations, though. The Callahan and Sumner were "wired" a number of years ago. Prior to that, there were small areas in the mid-point of each where even the Class B's from the Pru barely came in, if at all. Once you got closer to one end or the other, especially to where you could see the exit, you could hear them again. EP From attychase@comcast.net Thu Sep 14 15:34:45 2006 From: attychase@comcast.net (Robert S Chase) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:34:45 -0400 Subject: Radio in the Tunnel References: Message-ID: <002901c6d834$d6e775b0$6400a8c0@HomeOffice> I accept all of that but have a further question, the submarines use a very low frequency and very high power system to receive their orders and other essential communications under water. Given the AM ground wave attenuates and the FM is actually line of sight leaking in, how come the submarine communications at VVLF works and just as matter physics, which has more capability of penetrating the ground with signal, the AM or higher frequency FM? > > AM signals are more susceptible to tunnel signal attenuation than FM > signals are, but parts of the Big Dig are 120ft below street level > (that's the area under Dewey Square)...unless you've got a very powerful > signal hitting the street level to begin with...that 120ft is going to > provide some serious shielding/attenuation. Ditto for the Ted Williams > which is roughly 90ft below sea level. From ssmyth@suscom.net Thu Sep 14 15:07:59 2006 From: ssmyth@suscom.net (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:07:59 -0400 Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal Message-ID: http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2006/09/owner_of_boston_1.html?p1=MEWell_Pos5 It says that Channel 56's 50 news staffers are not expected to make the move over to the WHDH newsroom. I would imagine that WHDH, though it plans on using its own personnel to produce Channel 56 newscasts, would need some added folks to re-write scripts, maybe an extra reporter or two to replace whoever gets moved to anchoring the 10 p.m. news, etc. From lglavin@mail.com Thu Sep 14 17:16:35 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:16:35 -0500 Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal Message-ID: <20060914211636.2ACDB1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sean Smyth" >To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal >Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:07:59 -0400 >http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2006/09/owner_of_boston_1.html?p1=MEWell_Pos5 >It says that Channel 56's 50 news staffers are not expected to >make the move over to the WHDH newsroom. I would imagine that >WHDH, though it plans on using its own personnel to produce >Channel 56 newscasts, would need some added folks to re-write >scripts, maybe an extra reporter or two to replace whoever gets >moved to anchoring the 10 p.m. news, etc. Channel 7 appears to need a new meteorolgist, and if I occupied an executive suite there, I'd definitely consider finding a place for Mike Wankum (unless he expects too much wampum for Sunbeam's penurious proclivities). Another WB56 face to consider adding: Lauren Jiggetts, probably the most attractive TV newser in town right now. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com From stephanie@gordsven.com Thu Sep 14 17:34:18 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <24817.12.37.144.130.1158269658.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> On Thu, September 14, 2006 15:07, Sean Smyth wrote: > WHDH, though it plans on using its own personnel to produce > Channel 56 newscasts, You assume they're probably going to even produce their own newscast and not just re-run one station's newscast on the other channel at a later time? -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Sep 14 18:49:12 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:49:12 -0400 Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal In-Reply-To: <24817.12.37.144.130.1158269658.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> References: <24817.12.37.144.130.1158269658.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> Message-ID: <17673.56424.897837.344747@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > You assume they're probably going to even produce their own newscast and > not just re-run one station's newscast on the other channel at a later > time? 7's 11:00 newscast is a good moneymaker for them, so I can't see replacing it with a repeat of a 10:00 cast already aired on 56. More likely would be that they would find sufficient talent to do a half-hour on 56 at 10:00. (I doubt 7 would ask Randy Price to do it, but what do I know?) -GAWollman From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Sep 14 19:15:30 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:15:30 -0400 Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal In-Reply-To: <24817.12.37.144.130.1158269658.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> References: <24817.12.37.144.130.1158269658.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> Message-ID: <1681159.1158275730596.JavaMail.kc1ih@mac.com> On Thursday, September 14, 2006, at 06:23PM, Stephanie Weil wrote: > >On Thu, September 14, 2006 15:07, Sean Smyth wrote: > >> WHDH, though it plans on using its own personnel to produce >> Channel 56 newscasts, > >You assume they're probably going to even produce their own newscast and >not just re-run one station's newscast on the other channel at a later >time? Those of us who work here are always the last to know! :-) There are a lot of details yet to be worked out, but it's not going to be a repeat. The announcement today said the newscast for 56 would be a more contemporary newscast aimed at a younger audience than that for 7. And besides, the 56 newscast is and will still be one hour, the 11 PM on 7 runs 35 minutes. This station does have a reputation for "cheaping out" on such things, but they're not going to put their biggest money-maker at risk by making it a re-run. They'll just push the existing employees to do more as much as they can. They did say that they expect approx. 30 new employees (I'm guessing mostly from 56) to be joining us here. There still remains much to be worked out in the details in the coming months. And please don't expect me to post anything here that is not public information. Larry Weil WHDH-TV Master Control Operator Lake Wobegone, NH From paulranderson@charter.net Thu Sep 14 21:38:31 2006 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:38:31 -0400 Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54748766-3E9F-44A7-A7DC-D18F90353F9D@charter.net> I don't like the idea of one company owning more than one TV station in a market and never have. The result is less competition and Boston loses its most intelligent newscast. The newscasts on channels 4, 5, 7 and 25 are glitzy, tacky, sensationalized junk. And I agree that Mike Wankum is among the best. He's personable and still satisfies those of us who are interested in weather, not just if it's going to be sunny or rainy when the kids go to school. Oh, well, I usually watch NESN these days anyway. They cover some fires and car crashes too, but R. D. Sahl is the cream of the crop. And I can't imagine a 56 newscast being aimed at a younger audience than 7's. What, they'll have even more annoying graphics and shorter stories? How about more newscasters standing up and even sillier remotes with moving cameras when there's nothing to see anyway. Paul On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:07 PM, Sean Smyth wrote: > http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2006/09/ > owner_of_boston_1.html?p1=MEWell_Pos5 > > It says that Channel 56's 50 news staffers are not expected to > make the move over to the WHDH newsroom. I would imagine that > WHDH, though it plans on using its own personnel to produce > Channel 56 newscasts, would need some added folks to re-write > scripts, maybe an extra reporter or two to replace whoever gets > moved to anchoring the 10 p.m. news, etc. From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Sep 14 23:56:45 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:56:45 -0400 Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal In-Reply-To: <54748766-3E9F-44A7-A7DC-D18F90353F9D@charter.net> References: Message-ID: <4509EC3D.27344.DBDDD6@localhost> On 14 Sep 2006 at 21:38, Paul Anderson wrote: > And I can't imagine a 56 newscast being aimed at a younger audience > than 7's. What, they'll have even more annoying graphics and shorter > stories? How about more newscasters standing up and even sillier > remotes with moving cameras when there's nothing to see anyway. Hmm. Newscasters with body-piercings and weird haircuts doing the news in hip-hop. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Sep 14 23:56:45 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:56:45 -0400 Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4509EC3D.26613.DBDCF0@localhost> On 14 Sep 2006 at 15:07, Sean Smyth wrote: > http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2006/09/owner_of_boston_1.html?p > 1=MEWell_Pos5 > > It says that Channel 56's 50 news staffers are not expected to > make the move over to the WHDH newsroom. I would imagine that > WHDH, though it plans on using its own personnel to produce > Channel 56 newscasts, would need some added folks to re-write > scripts, maybe an extra reporter or two to replace whoever gets > moved to anchoring the 10 p.m. news, etc. I wonder whether channel 56 will move to the channel 7 headquarters in Government Center or channel 7 will move to Morrissey Boulevard. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Fri Sep 15 00:19:13 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 00:19:13 -0400 Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal In-Reply-To: <4509EC3D.26613.DBDCF0@localhost> References: <4509EC3D.26613.DBDCF0@localhost> Message-ID: <450A29C1.90101@fybush.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > I wonder whether channel 56 will move to the channel 7 headquarters > in Government Center or channel 7 will move to Morrissey Boulevard. The former. The WLVI facility is far too small (and outdated) to handle both stations, while the WHDH facility is up-to-date and ready to handle the load. s From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Sep 15 01:09:48 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 01:09:48 -0400 Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal In-Reply-To: <4509EC3D.26613.DBDCF0@localhost> References: <4509EC3D.26613.DBDCF0@localhost> Message-ID: At 11:56 PM -0400 9/14/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > >I wonder whether channel 56 will move to the channel 7 headquarters >in Government Center or channel 7 will move to Morrissey Boulevard. 56 is moving to 7 Bulfinch Place. The news will be done in the same space as is 7 News. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Sep 15 08:21:58 2006 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 08:21:58 -0400 Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal In-Reply-To: <4509EC3D.27344.DBDDD6@localhost> References: <4509EC3D.27344.DBDDD6@localhost> Message-ID: <450A9AE6.5040402@cssinc.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 14 Sep 2006 at 21:38, Paul Anderson wrote: > > >> And I can't imagine a 56 newscast being aimed at a younger audience >> than 7's. What, they'll have even more annoying graphics and shorter >> stories? How about more newscasters standing up and even sillier >> remotes with moving cameras when there's nothing to see anyway. >> > > Hmm. Newscasters with body-piercings and weird haircuts doing the > news in hip-hop. > > If you copyright that idea you might have the basis for an intellectual property suit when the switch goes through... Brian From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Sep 15 08:23:00 2006 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 08:23:00 -0400 Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal In-Reply-To: <4509EC3D.26613.DBDCF0@localhost> References: <4509EC3D.26613.DBDCF0@localhost> Message-ID: <450A9B24.20904@cssinc.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 14 Sep 2006 at 15:07, Sean Smyth wrote: > > >> http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2006/09/owner_of_boston_1.html?p >> 1=MEWell_Pos5 >> >> It says that Channel 56's 50 news staffers are not expected to >> make the move over to the WHDH newsroom. I would imagine that >> WHDH, though it plans on using its own personnel to produce >> Channel 56 newscasts, would need some added folks to re-write >> scripts, maybe an extra reporter or two to replace whoever gets >> moved to anchoring the 10 p.m. news, etc. >> > > I wonder whether channel 56 will move to the channel 7 headquarters > in Government Center or channel 7 will move to Morrissey Boulevard. > > I don't know about Morrissey Blvd. You never know when Greater Media will drop another radio tower on you... :-) Brian Vita From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Sep 15 08:24:35 2006 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 08:24:35 -0400 Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal In-Reply-To: References: <4509EC3D.26613.DBDCF0@localhost> Message-ID: <450A9B83.2090502@cssinc.com> Larry Weil wrote: > At 11:56 PM -0400 9/14/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >> >> I wonder whether channel 56 will move to the channel 7 headquarters >> in Government Center or channel 7 will move to Morrissey Boulevard. > > 56 is moving to 7 Bulfinch Place. The news will be done in the same > space as is 7 News. > Does your contract in master control pay you by the number of buttons you have to push? (Assuming that they'll merge the two m/c's) :-) Brian From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Sep 15 16:40:46 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:40:46 -0400 Subject: Globe: Channel 56 sale is done deal In-Reply-To: <450A9AE6.5040402@cssinc.com> References: <4509EC3D.27344.DBDDD6@localhost> Message-ID: <450AD78E.21696.33FBEC@localhost> On 15 Sep 2006 at 8:21, Brian Vita wrote: > If you copyright that idea you might have the basis for an > intellectual property suit when the switch goes through... Maybe, except you can't copyright an idea, only the expression of an idea. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Sep 18 01:57:49 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:57:49 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609172257s5d3ab4c8gcb8cb2653d8858c5@mail.gmail.com> "...The nation hasn't turned its ears to you." In the heart of Kennedy Country, AAR hasn't really made a dent. http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=158055 From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Sep 18 02:47:27 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 02:47:27 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0609172257s5d3ab4c8gcb8cb2653d8858c5@mail.gmail.co m> References: <1fbbbced0609172257s5d3ab4c8gcb8cb2653d8858c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060918024157.04077a68@donnahalper.com> At 01:57 AM 9/18/2006, Bob Nelson wrote: >"...The nation hasn't turned its ears to you." In the heart of Kennedy >Country, AAR hasn't really made a dent. > >http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=158055 Given how the Herald leans Republican, I am not surprised that they would feel negatively about progressive talk-- at least the author tried to be fair and did mention the horrible signal the Boston affiliate has-- I can't even hear it in Quincy... but again, the format really is doing just fine in some cities, and the Jones Radio Network folks (like Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller, as well as Thom Hartmann, who I believe is part Jones and part AAR) are actually gaining audience, according to Talkers magazine. Like him or not, Ed Schultz is now the #9 most listened to talk show host in the country, with more than 2.5 million listeners a week. Air America has a horrible business model and has been very poorly run. I've offered to consult 'em, but alas, my phone ain't ringing... Still, it took Rush Limbaugh nearly 6 years to become popular, and AAR is still fairly new. Will they survive? I can't say. But already certain progressive talkers are finding niches in a number of cities. Time will tell if the format has staying power, but personally, I think it's good for democracy to have both sides of current issues discussed. From nostaticatall@charter.net Mon Sep 18 03:38:21 2006 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 03:38:21 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060918024157.04077a68@donnahalper.com> References: <1fbbbced0609172257s5d3ab4c8gcb8cb2653d8858c5@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20060918024157.04077a68@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: It's no big surprise that Peter Smythe (WTKK) and Jason Wolfe (WRKO) weigh in negatively against progressive talk. Of course, both of them would love to have the consistent 25-54 numbers that WBUR has. It's not "liberal talk" per se, but that's where the pool of potential liberal talk listeners currently resides. Why would these listeners switch from a dominant FM frequency that is (in theory) commercial free to a noisy AM signal and have to endure four long spot breaks every hour? If this is a "conservative country" as Smythe suggests, why isn't ultra-conservative talker WTTT doing better? Maybe it's because they have a low-powered AM signal, or maybe it's the all satellite fed lineup they have. It could be the lack of promotion by Salem, or possibly the strong ideological bent of the hosts. Or it could just be that the potential audience has other, more established places to go for the format that have better signals. Funny, you can apply the same reasoning to WKOX/WXKS. This isn't to say that AAR doesn't have issues, they do. But if they do go belly up that does not mean that "liberal talk" is dead. As Donna mentions, other syndicators are finding success marketing left-leaning talk shows. There are plenty of success stories in the format. However, the successful stations have competitive signals and at least some local hosts, particularly in the drives. When Rush started out, he was on 5K fringe AM stations and it took him awhile to get established. Once his show moved to some of the 50K blowtorch AM's, it took off. The same thing needs to happen to liberal talkers. It isn't about ideology. It's about market penetration. It hasn't gotten there yet and it's still very early in the game. --Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Sep 18, 2006, at 2:47 AM, Donna Halper wrote: > At 01:57 AM 9/18/2006, Bob Nelson wrote: >> "...The nation hasn't turned its ears to you." In the heart of Kennedy >> Country, AAR hasn't really made a dent. >> >> http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=158055 > > Given how the Herald leans Republican, I am not surprised that they > would feel negatively about progressive talk-- at least the author > tried to be fair and did mention the horrible signal the Boston > affiliate has-- I can't even hear it in Quincy... but again, the > format really is doing just fine in some cities, and the Jones Radio > Network folks (like Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller, as well as Thom > Hartmann, who I believe is part Jones and part AAR) are actually > gaining audience, according to Talkers magazine. Like him or not, Ed > Schultz is now the #9 most listened to talk show host in the country, > with more than 2.5 million listeners a week. Air America has a > horrible business model and has been very poorly run. I've offered to > consult 'em, but alas, my phone ain't ringing... Still, it took Rush > Limbaugh nearly 6 years to become popular, and AAR is still fairly > new. Will they survive? I can't say. But already certain > progressive talkers are finding niches in a number of cities. Time > will tell if the format has staying power, but personally, I think > it's good for democracy to have both sides of current issues > discussed. From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Sep 18 08:20:35 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:20:35 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America References: <1fbbbced0609172257s5d3ab4c8gcb8cb2653d8858c5@mail.gmail.com><7.0.1.0.2.20060918024157.04077a68@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <001a01c6db1d$39ba8f20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> But having the only such network in the hands of a bunch of ego-driven investors who don't know the radio business and apparently don't want to learn is, alas, no recipe for giving the concept of a progressive-talk network a chance to develop. If AAR does fold, it will just give the many nay-sayers on the right an opportunity to say "I told you so." Many, many inside and outside the industry will be only too happy to accept what the righties say and not dig into the real causes of the failure. Other companies do syndicate progressive talk, of course. Besides Jones, there are--at least--the companies that syndicate Lionel and (is it Bill?) Press. Can anyone identify the syndicators of these shows? There are others as well. One talker who is no Liberal or progressive, but who is being lumped by the righties with progressives because he doesn't like Bush, is the black-helicopter guy, Alex Jones. I think there is another black-helicopter show hosted by a woman from Missouri who also doesn't like Bush and therefore is also incorrectly labeled as a progressive. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tomm" To: "Donna Halper" Cc: Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 3:38 AM Subject: Re: Herald: Where have you gone Air America > It's no big surprise that Peter Smythe (WTKK) and Jason Wolfe (WRKO) > weigh in negatively against progressive talk. Of course, both of them > would love to have the consistent 25-54 numbers that WBUR has. It's > not "liberal talk" per se, but that's where the pool of potential > liberal talk listeners currently resides. Why would these listeners > switch from a dominant FM frequency that is (in theory) commercial free > to a noisy AM signal and have to endure four long spot breaks every > hour? > > If this is a "conservative country" as Smythe suggests, why isn't > ultra-conservative talker WTTT doing better? Maybe it's because they > have a low-powered AM signal, or maybe it's the all satellite fed > lineup they have. It could be the lack of promotion by Salem, or > possibly the strong ideological bent of the hosts. Or it could just be > that the potential audience has other, more established places to go > for the format that have better signals. Funny, you can apply the same > reasoning to WKOX/WXKS. > > This isn't to say that AAR doesn't have issues, they do. But if they > do go belly up that does not mean that "liberal talk" is dead. As > Donna mentions, other syndicators are finding success marketing > left-leaning talk shows. There are plenty of success stories in the > format. However, the successful stations have competitive signals and > at least some local hosts, particularly in the drives. > > When Rush started out, he was on 5K fringe AM stations and it took him > awhile to get established. Once his show moved to some of the 50K > blowtorch AM's, it took off. The same thing needs to happen to liberal > talkers. It isn't about ideology. It's about market penetration. It > hasn't gotten there yet and it's still very early in the game. > > --Dave Tomm > "Mike Thomas" > > > On Sep 18, 2006, at 2:47 AM, Donna Halper wrote: > > > At 01:57 AM 9/18/2006, Bob Nelson wrote: > >> "...The nation hasn't turned its ears to you." In the heart of Kennedy > >> Country, AAR hasn't really made a dent. > >> > >> http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=158055 > > > > Given how the Herald leans Republican, I am not surprised that they > > would feel negatively about progressive talk-- at least the author > > tried to be fair and did mention the horrible signal the Boston > > affiliate has-- I can't even hear it in Quincy... but again, the > > format really is doing just fine in some cities, and the Jones Radio > > Network folks (like Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller, as well as Thom > > Hartmann, who I believe is part Jones and part AAR) are actually > > gaining audience, according to Talkers magazine. Like him or not, Ed > > Schultz is now the #9 most listened to talk show host in the country, > > with more than 2.5 million listeners a week. Air America has a > > horrible business model and has been very poorly run. I've offered to > > consult 'em, but alas, my phone ain't ringing... Still, it took Rush > > Limbaugh nearly 6 years to become popular, and AAR is still fairly > > new. Will they survive? I can't say. But already certain > > progressive talkers are finding niches in a number of cities. Time > > will tell if the format has staying power, but personally, I think > > it's good for democracy to have both sides of current issues > > discussed. From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Sep 18 13:06:15 2006 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Radio Derry Message-ID: <20060918170616.80910.qmail@web30704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Sept 14-20 edition of the Hippo Press has a half page (page 10) question and answer feature on Rick Ganley and Radio Derry. It's also featured on home page of the Hippo Press http://www.hippopress.com/ http://www.radioderry.com/ John B Derry NH From lglavin@mail.com Mon Sep 18 15:19:23 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:19:23 -0500 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America Message-ID: <20060918191933.A31901158CD@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org, raccoonradio@gmail.com >Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:57:49 -0400 >"...The nation hasn't turned its ears to you." In the heart of Kennedy >Country, AAR hasn't really made a dent. >http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=158055 Dan Kennedy, formerly of The Boston Phoenix and now a contributor (wait a minute...isn't he paid?) to Emily Rooney's "Beat the Press" channel 2/44 gabfest weighs in on the subject thus: http://medianation.blogspot.com/atom.xml -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Sep 19 04:10:32 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 04:10:32 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America In-Reply-To: <20060918191933.A31901158CD@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060918191933.A31901158CD@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609190110i5ce6a788pfe8899542f3f76f9@mail.gmail.com> Maybe Mindich could run some AAR shows on the Boston Phoenix's outlet at 101.7. "Boston's PROGRESSIVE FM Talk"...Steph Miller can be entertaining, and I did like Alan Colmes in the past ('RKO briefly ran his current show). Can't get into Stuart Smalley at all. Yes, have both sides covered, but realize also that a station running talk needs to make money. Unless they want to go the PBS/NPR route--pledge drives and tote bags,anyone? WKOX and WXKS may not push well into the suburbs, by the way, but shouldn't folks in Boston, Somerville, and Cambridge pick 'XKS's signal up half decently? From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Sep 19 06:47:55 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 06:47:55 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America References: <20060918191933.A31901158CD@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> <1fbbbced0609190110i5ce6a788pfe8899542f3f76f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001001c6dbd9$14546820$19eefea9@dstrassberg> WKOX IS IN the suburbs--more or less in the geographic center of Framingham and has a dynamite 10 kW-ND daytime signal from very tall towers. (Don't go by what you've been hearing--or not hearing--for the past few days; WKOX must be painting its towers or doing some other work on them that necessitates running at low power during the day.) Normally, the daytime signal is listenable well within Route 128. The 1 kW directional nighttime signal really doesn't penetrate within Route 128, however. WXKS has an OK 5-kW ND signal within Route 128 by day but a miserable 1-kW signal at night. In addition to a very high NIF (nighttime interference-free) contour (~43 mV/m), WXKS is directionalized to the east at night from a site northeast of most of the market, meaning that nighttime listening is confined to a few North Shore communities--Everett and Lynn, for example. The 1200/1430 combo covers the market adequately by day but has a gaping hole in its nighttime coverage right in the middle of the market. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "Laurence Glavin" ; Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:10 AM Subject: Re: Herald: Where have you gone Air America > Maybe Mindich could run some AAR shows on the Boston Phoenix's outlet at 101.7. > "Boston's PROGRESSIVE FM Talk"...Steph Miller can be entertaining, and > I did like Alan Colmes in the past ('RKO briefly ran his current > show). Can't get into Stuart Smalley at all. > > Yes, have both sides covered, but realize also that a station running > talk needs to make money. Unless they want to go the PBS/NPR > route--pledge drives and tote bags,anyone? > > WKOX and WXKS may not push well into the suburbs, by the way, but > shouldn't folks > in Boston, Somerville, and Cambridge pick 'XKS's signal up half decently? From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Sep 19 15:03:13 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:03:13 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America Message-ID: <31616735.1158692593291.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > From: "Bob Nelson" > To: "Laurence Glavin" , > boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 04:10:32 -0400 > Subject: Re: Herald: Where have you gone Air America > > WKOX and WXKS may not push well into the suburbs, by > the way, but shouldn't folks in Boston, Somerville, and > Cambridge pick 'XKS's signal up half decently? WXKS is loud and clear there in the daytime, but the lower power and directional pattern at night is marginal. I live two miles from their transmitter in the nighttime null direction in Somerville. It's actually fairly strong on my signal strength meters, but the phase cancellation being broadcast my way causes a bit of distortion, and a thin sounding quality to the audio which allows background noise from other co-channel stations to be heard. It can be listened to, but it's not clean reception. Head another mile or so southwest to Harvard Square and the co-channel stations skipping in at night are practically a match to the WXKS signal, kicking it around badly. Head over the bridge into Allston/Brighton, and WXKS is buried. WXKS can be heard, more or less, throughout Cambridge and Somerville at night, but it's only loud and clear in East Somerville (Winter Hill, Assembly Square, Sullivan Square) and in East Cambridge (Lechmere Square, Kendall Square). In Boston, the WXKS night signal is of course loud and clear in Charlestown and East Boston, and it's actually not bad in South Boston, but in Boston proper it's only clean in areas along the waterfront (IE: North End, Government Center, Financial District, etc...). Anywhere west of Beacon Hill and into the Back Bay it's weak and noisy with the co-channel stations. By Kenmore Square it's buried, and forget it in the South End or any of the urban neighborhoods, though it can be heard weakly and noisily along coastal Dorchester. EP From Joe@attorneyross.com Tue Sep 19 15:12:14 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:12:14 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0609190110i5ce6a788pfe8899542f3f76f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060918191933.A31901158CD@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <451008CE.29136.32288D@localhost> On 19 Sep 2006 Bob Nelson wrote: > WKOX and WXKS may not push well into the suburbs, by the way, but > shouldn't folks in Boston, Somerville, and Cambridge pick 'XKS's > signal up half decently? They're not too bad in the daytime. I hear them on my car radio just about everywhere, though when I drive to Lexington, there's a small area near the Waltham Street exit on Route 2, where neither signal is very strong. The problem is at night. I have trouble picking them up around Brookline at night in my car, and it's impossible in my home. Is anything happening regarding the construction of a new transmitter for WKOX? Are there any numbers for how many listeners are listening online or on XM? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@csail.mit.edu Tue Sep 19 15:15:56 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:15:56 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America In-Reply-To: <451008CE.29136.32288D@localhost> References: <20060918191933.A31901158CD@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> <451008CE.29136.32288D@localhost> Message-ID: <17680.16876.480330.555287@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > The problem is at night. I have trouble picking them up around > Brookline at night in my car, and it's impossible in my home. Is > anything happening regarding the construction of a new transmitter > for WKOX? Last time I was down in Oak Hill, about a month ago, there was no evidence of any construction -- so it probably won't be done this year. I never heard back from Grady when I asked him what was up. -GAWollman From lglavin@mail.com Tue Sep 19 16:10:12 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:10:12 -0500 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America Message-ID: <20060919201014.78F09478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Garrett Wollman" >To: "A. Joseph Ross" >Subject: Re: Herald: Where have you gone Air America >Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:15:56 -0400 < said: > The problem is at night. I have trouble picking them up around > Brookline at night in my car, and it's impossible in my home. Is > anything happening regarding the construction of a new > transmitter for WKOX? >Last time I was down in Oak Hill, about a month ago, there was no >evidence of any construction -- so it probably won't be done this >year. I never heard back from Grady when I asked him what was up. >-GAWollman Here's an edited version of postings on their website, bostonsprogressivetalk.com... a click-through won't work and it requires registration: "Plans are moving on...there's a lot to the procedure. They're not only upgrading WKOX, but 2 other stations also. So there are 6 transmitters that have to be ordered, built, delivered and installed... then there are towers to be built, and the equipment installed to tune each of the stations to the towers and prevent the stations from interfering with each other. Late summer 2007 is the target for the upgrade." -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Sep 19 16:12:00 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:12:00 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America In-Reply-To: <20060919201014.78F09478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060919201014.78F09478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609191312o69df82c5pa7687cd0ccb7eeee@mail.gmail.com> This wouldn't happen (or prob. wouldn't) but suppose CC bought WEZE 590 from Salem, and put prog talk there. How would it do signal wise? Just looked up on radio-locator.com-- not too well to west but strong to north and south. (But I'm sure that limited signal is one reason WEEI migrated to 850 in the early 90s...) Not sure what other stations would be available to put prog. talk on in the area, but I guess the improvements promised for 1200 will help them...though it's a year or so away. From sid@wrko.com Tue Sep 19 16:28:26 2006 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:28:26 -0600 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America Message-ID: >>suppose CC bought WEZE 590 from Salem, and put prog talk there. How would it do signal wise? Just looked up on radio-locator.com--not too well to west but strong to north and south. (But I'm sure that limited signal is one reason WEEI migrated to 850 in the early 90s...)<< WEEI is limited in its westward radiation as well, since it must protect co-channel KOA in Denver. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From wollman@csail.mit.edu Tue Sep 19 16:39:54 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:39:54 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17680.21914.55921.792841@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > limited signal is one reason WEEI migrated to 850 in the early 90s...)<< > WEEI is limited in its westward radiation as well, since it must protect co-channel KOA in Denver. But as I'm sure you're aware, WEEI's signal problems on 850 are nothing compared to 590. WEEI has *only* to protect Denver. WEZE has to protect a co-channel in Albany and even worse, a first-adjacent in Worcester. (I don't think it could ever be usefully upgraded without significant modification of at least WTAG, if not WROW and WICC.) -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Sep 19 16:41:28 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:41:28 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America References: <20060918191933.A31901158CD@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com><451008CE.29136.32288D@localhost> <17680.16876.480330.555287@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <002a01c6dc2c$043212a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> For whatever it's worth, the "official" word from the CCU emplyee who responds to listener questions and comments on the message board at WKOXAM.com is that WKOX's 50-kW signal will be on the air in late summer or early fall of 2007. Back when CCU and the Newton aldermen settled their dispute, that was my best-case forecast. Given that, nearly a year later, there is no visible progress at the site (based on reports here--not on any personal observations by me), I think you should mark October 2007 on your calendar as CCU's new super-optimisitc forecast. I think that, based on the absence of visible progress, early fall 2007 has now become at least a little earlier than any reasonable best-case estimate. Also, the question answerer (who uses the screen name buckethead1) claims that CCU will not flip WKOX to some format other than progressive talk after the power increase. My take on that is that the flip may occur as much as a couple of months after the higher power goes on the air. Of course, if AAR goes into Chapter 7 bankruptcy before then (as far as I know, they aren't even in Chapter 11 yet), the schedule could change suddenly. Maybe this time, CCU can find an LMA partner with the resources to pay its bills, or maybe Arthur Liu will make CCU an offer it can't refuse. I still maintain that if WKOX drops the format, a reasonable substitute would be a simulcast of WXKS (AM) and WAZN 1470. The two stations have adjacent dial positions and highly complementary coverage day and night. If Liu bought 1200 and 1430 from CCU and if Air America, which Liu wound up suing in the network's earliest days, were out of the picture, Liu might be willing to LMA 1430 and 1470 to someone who would air progressive talk--as long as he felt confident of getting paid. My impression is that Liu has no dog in the liberal/conservative fight. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "A. Joseph Ross" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 3:15 PM Subject: Re: Herald: Where have you gone Air America > < said: > > > The problem is at night. I have trouble picking them up around > > Brookline at night in my car, and it's impossible in my home. Is > > anything happening regarding the construction of a new transmitter > > for WKOX? > > Last time I was down in Oak Hill, about a month ago, there was no > evidence of any construction -- so it probably won't be done this > year. I never heard back from Grady when I asked him what was up. > > -GAWollman > From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Sep 19 17:23:42 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:23:42 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America References: <17680.21914.55921.792841@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <003d01c6dc31$e78689a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Depends on what the FCC's ratchet rule would have to say. I think there IS prohibited overlap between WEZE's 0.25 MV/m contour and WTAG's 0.5. There may also be probhibited overlap between WTAG's 0.25 and WEZE's 0.5. (WEZE's signal toward Worcester is just a bit stonger than WTAG's signal toward Boston.) Any such overlap would have to be reduced or the application would be summarily rejected. One way to address this problem would be a 590/850 diplex from Needham. (If you move 590 westward and reduce the signal behind the array, you can wind up with impoved coverage to the west. Counterintuitive, but true! The idea is NOT new; it was thought of and applied for maybe 40 years ago--long before overlap with first-adjacent 0.25 mV/m contours was even mentioned in the FCC regs.) At that time, I believe the FCC rejected the idea because Class IIIA AMs (590) were limited to 5 kW and from that distance, 590 could not deliver the then-requisite 25 mV/m to Boston's South Postal Annex. Now, with the possibility of 50-kW and only 5 mV/m required over the CoL, the idea just might be workable--during the day anyhow. At night, 590 must protect a bunch of Canadians to the north--even though all of them may now be dark. That would probably limit 590's night power to something less than 5 kW because there's only so much you can do with three towers and because the 850 towers are taller than the 590 towers, resulting in higher efficiency that would have to be offset by lower power. Another interesting possibility is a 590/680 diplex. The filtering problem would be difficult but not impossible The 90-kHz frequency difference is more than 13% of the higher frequency. Burlington IS west (as well as north) of Medford. Not as far west as Needham is, so the payoff might be smaller, but the idea might still be worth some study. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Sid Schweiger" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:39 PM Subject: Re: Herald: Where have you gone Air America > < said: > > > limited signal is one reason WEEI migrated to 850 in the early 90s...)<< > > > WEEI is limited in its westward radiation as well, since it must protect co-channel KOA in Denver. > > But as I'm sure you're aware, WEEI's signal problems on 850 are > nothing compared to 590. WEEI has *only* to protect Denver. WEZE has > to protect a co-channel in Albany and even worse, a first-adjacent in > Worcester. (I don't think it could ever be usefully upgraded without > significant modification of at least WTAG, if not WROW and WICC.) > > -GAWollman > From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Sep 19 17:48:24 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:48:24 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America References: Message-ID: <004f01c6dc35$58d57780$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I'd be willing to bet that if KOA were WEEI's only limitation at night, some relaxation of the night pattern to the west would be quite possible. A decade or so ago (I think it was sometime in the 90s), the FCC changed the equations used for determining Class A stations' 0.5 mV/m 50% skywave contours. The more southerly the Class A's location, the smaller the effect, but KOA is reasonably far north and undoubtedly had the radius of its protected contour reduced by at least 150 miles. (The Chicago ex-IAs' protected contours now extend only a little way past Buffalo!). On 850, KHHO Tacoma recently let out its night pattern to the east just a bit to take advantage of the change. However, WEEI must now protect a bunch of stations in the east, the oldest of which is, I guess, WRMR, but there is Montreal (now dark but still requiring protection), Norfolk, Raleigh, Johnstown, and I'm sure others that I didn't think of. Too bad that whoever owned 850 at the time didn't think of it because there may have been a time window during which useful action was possible. I suspect that the night signal might have been made quite acceptable well into Framingham--in places where it is not very usable because of the combination of low signal strength, phasing, and co-channel interference. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Schweiger" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:28 PM Subject: Re: Herald: Where have you gone Air America > >>suppose CC bought WEZE 590 from Salem, > and put prog talk there. How would it do signal wise? Just looked up > on radio-locator.com--not too well to west but strong to north and south. (But I'm sure that > limited signal is one reason WEEI migrated to 850 in the early 90s...)<< > > WEEI is limited in its westward radiation as well, since it must protect co-channel KOA in Denver. > > > > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC > WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > Boston MA 02135-2040 > Phone: 617-779-5369 > Fax: 617-779-5379 > E-Mail: sid@wrko.com > > From wollman@csail.mit.edu Wed Sep 20 11:44:40 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:44:40 -0400 Subject: Moderator on the road.... Message-ID: <17681.25064.550098.671879@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Your humble moderator will be on the road collecting tower pictures from September 21 through October 1. Mail to the list which requires moderator approval will receive only intermittent attention during this time. -GAWollman From elipolo@earthlink.net Wed Sep 20 15:27:49 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:27:49 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America Message-ID: > > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: "Laurence Glavin" , > boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org, > "Bob Nelson" > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:12:14 -0400 > Subject: Re: Herald: Where have you gone Air America > > They're not too bad in the daytime. I hear them on my car radio > just about everywhere, though when I drive to Lexington, there's > a small area near the Waltham Street exit on Route 2, where > neither signal is very strong. That's most likely because you're going by the WTTT 1150 and WAZN 1470 transmitter site at the Lexington/Belmont/Waltham line. The proximity to the 1150 signal is desensitizing your radio to 1200, and the 1470 signal is doing it to 1430 when you're that close to those towers. Look about a half-mile east of Waltham St. off the eastbound side of Route 2 and you'll see the four towers. The tall one was for the old 100.7 FM which is no longer in use (it's now WZLX which transmits from the Pru). The three shorter towers are WTTT and WAZN. EP From lglavin@mail.com Wed Sep 20 16:20:38 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:20:38 -0500 Subject: Alex Beam Writes Column re NPR's Burger Money Message-ID: <20060920202039.3704D164278@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> The Boston Globe employs a columnist named Alex Beam who began his career on Morrissey Blvd on the Business Page. Later he moved to the paper's Living section (obits occasionally show up in that section toward the back...wouldn't that make it the Living & Dead section?) whereupon he began opining on a wide variety of subjects. Today, he weighed in on the Kroc bequest to NPR, and you can read all about it at: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2006/09/20/where_did_nprs_burger_money_go/ S I D E B A R: Last year the New York Times ran a major piece about FM's in the non-comm band being ousted by "religious" interests because the aforementioned outlets were run on a shoestring, and didn't even provide wide-area coverage of their markets. I hope some of this moolah went to such stations, making it possible to meet NPR standards of coverage and audience participation. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Sep 20 16:20:21 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:20:21 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America References: Message-ID: <001601c6dcf2$360918c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Hi, Eli: Actually, the reception problems with 1430 in the vicinity of WAZN are even more complex than what you described. The location is less than two miles from WWZN with 50 kw on 1510. 1510-1470 = 40 and 1470-40 = 1430. There is a huge intermodulation product on 1430 which really mungs up WXKS here during the day. Then at night, when WWZN changes patterns, which would normally make the problem go away or at least make it much less severe, WXKS drops power and goes directional, which makes its signal disappear, and would do so even without help from WWZN or WAZN. Since WAZN moved to the WTTT site, the only time I get decent reception of 1430 here (at least on radios like the Super Radio III, which has a front-end TRF stage) is when WAZN operates at low power. That still happens fairly often because the kinks in the setup with 1150 apparently have not yet all been worked out. Also, WAZN and WTTT recently suffered a lightning strike that did quite a bit of damage (not visible from outside the site but serious nonetheless according to WAZN's GM). You'd think the nearby FM tower, which is at least 50% taller than the AM towers would protect the shorter towers, but lightning has a mind of its own. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eli Polonsky" To: Cc: "A. Joseph Ross" Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 3:27 PM Subject: Re: Herald: Where have you gone Air America > > > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > > To: "Laurence Glavin" , > > boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org, > > "Bob Nelson" > > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:12:14 -0400 > > Subject: Re: Herald: Where have you gone Air America > > > > They're not too bad in the daytime. I hear them on my car radio > > just about everywhere, though when I drive to Lexington, there's > > a small area near the Waltham Street exit on Route 2, where > > neither signal is very strong. > > That's most likely because you're going by the WTTT 1150 and WAZN > 1470 transmitter site at the Lexington/Belmont/Waltham line. The > proximity to the 1150 signal is desensitizing your radio to 1200, > and the 1470 signal is doing it to 1430 when you're that close to > those towers. > > Look about a half-mile east of Waltham St. off the eastbound side > of Route 2 and you'll see the four towers. The tall one was for > the old 100.7 FM which is no longer in use (it's now WZLX which > transmits from the Pru). The three shorter towers are WTTT and > WAZN. > > EP > From Joe@attorneyross.com Wed Sep 20 17:26:51 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:26:51 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <451179DB.20289.358E61@localhost> On 20 Sep 2006 Eli Polonsky wrote: > That's most likely because you're going by the WTTT 1150 and WAZN 1470 > transmitter site at the Lexington/Belmont/Waltham line. The proximity > to the 1150 signal is desensitizing your radio to 1200, and the 1470 > signal is doing it to 1430 when you're that close to those towers. > > Look about a half-mile east of Waltham St. off the eastbound side of > Route 2 and you'll see the four towers. The tall one was for the old > 100.7 FM which is no longer in use (it's now WZLX which transmits from > the Pru). The three shorter towers are WTTT and WAZN. I'm familiar with those towers. I first became aware of them when they were still WCOP. I suppose it's possible they could be causing the problem I have, but I'm not sure I quite understand the mechanism for how a signal on a nearby channel affects my reception. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu Sep 21 02:16:51 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 02:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America Message-ID: <26516103.1158819411398.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> -----Original Message----- >From: Dan Strassberg >Sent: Sep 20, 2006 4:20 PM >To: Eli Polonsky , >boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Cc: "A. Joseph Ross" >Subject: Re: Herald: Where have you gone Air America > >Also, WAZN and WTTT recently suffered a lightning strike that >did quite a bit of damage (not visible from outside the site but >serious nonetheless according to WAZN's GM). You'd think the >nearby FM tower, which is at least 50% taller than the AM >towers would protect the shorter towers, but lightning has a >mind of its own. Perhaps the lightning "sensed" somehow that the AM towers, with their underground grids, were a more substantial "path to ground" than the taller FM tower was. Only guessing, I really have no idea. Another possibility is perhaps the lightning may have hit the taller old FM tower first with no operational effect, then bounced to the AM towers. I guess you had to be there... EP From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu Sep 21 02:45:39 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 02:45:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America Message-ID: <19222105.1158821139233.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> -----Original Message----- >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >Sent: Sep 20, 2006 5:26 PM >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org, >Eli Polonsky >Subject: Re: Herald: Where have you gone Air America > >On 20 Sep 2006 Eli Polonsky wrote: > >> That's likely because you're going by the WTTT 1150 and WAZN 1470 >> transmitter site at the Lexington/Belmont/Waltham line. The proximity >> to the 1150 signal is desensitizing your radio to 1200, and the 1470 >> signal is doing it to 1430 when you're that close to those towers. > >I'm familiar with those towers. I first became aware of them when >they were still WCOP. I suppose it's possible they could be causing >the problem I have, but I'm not sure I quite understand the mechanism >for how a signal on a nearby channel affects my reception. In addition to the intermodulation factor with also nearby WWZN that Dan mentioned, the other possible reason would be in your radio. If you have a modern digital car tuner, many of them have an automatic attenuation circuit that reduces sensitivity when it receives extremely strong signals, such as when driving nearby transmitters. It's purpose is to help reduce symptoms of RF overload such as splatter and the receiving of images, harmonics and intermodulation. The circuits are usually designed to reduce the sensitivity of a certain portion of the dial surrounding the very strong nearby signal, which can cause weak reception of other frequencies nearby the strong one on the dial. The circuit replaces the old "Local/DX" switches, which used to have to be switched manually as needed when driving into strong signal areas. Though the old manual switches were much more common on FM than AM tuners, many digital car tuners employ the automatic attenuation circuit on both AM and FM. EP From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Sep 21 06:51:53 2006 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 06:51:53 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America In-Reply-To: <26516103.1158819411398.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <26516103.1158819411398.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <45126EC9.7030401@cssinc.com> Eli Polonsky wrote: >> Also, WAZN and WTTT recently suffered a lightning strike that >> did quite a bit of damage (not visible from outside the site but >> serious nonetheless according to WAZN's GM). You'd think the >> nearby FM tower, which is at least 50% taller than the AM >> towers would protect the shorter towers, but lightning has a >> mind of its own. >> > > Perhaps the lightning "sensed" somehow that the AM towers, > with their underground grids, were a more substantial "path to > ground" than the taller FM tower was. Only guessing, I really > have no idea. Another possibility is perhaps the lightning may > have hit the taller old FM tower first with no operational effect, > then bounced to the AM towers. I guess you had to be there... > > EP > > > Which, of course, begs the question, is there anything at the other end of the antenna lead on this tower? When 100.7 left the tower, were all of the electronics pulled or is there some standby equipment still left connected? Is the actual antenna still there or was it taken down leaving just the steel frame? Are there any other services using the tower? Just curious. Brian From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Sep 21 11:26:49 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:26:49 -0400 Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609210826q1eed6edg9e1b30e30449bbff@mail.gmail.com> Heard about the plea deal in which The Station nightclub owners Jeff and Michael Derderian will be getting off pretty much scot-free. Leveille on WBZ was discussing it last night and I wonder if WRKO will talk for awhile (Howie, maybe). Tuned in this morning wondering what RI's DePetro might say but he was out (Todd Feinburg in, it sounded like.) DePetro covered the fire (or at least talked about it on radio) in his WHJJ days. Tuned to WHJJ and Helen Glover was discussing it--the legal implications; reaction of a father whose daughter died in the blaze, etc. At this time let's remember that at least two radio personalities died in the fire: WHJY's Dr. Metal (Mike Gonzalves) and also a jock from the Nichols College station WNRC, Jimmy Gahan http://radio.about.com/library/weekly/aa022503a.htm?terms=night+fire http://www.boston.com/news/packages/nightclub_fire/victims/jgahan.htm Justice? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Sep 21 11:51:54 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:51:54 -0400 Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0609210826q1eed6edg9e1b30e30449bbff@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced0609210826q1eed6edg9e1b30e30449bbff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609210851u4461ccdcv3c8ca6645182e342@mail.gmail.com> also Dale Latulippe, son of Don (WRKO) perished in the fire... http://www.projo.com/cgi-bin/include.pl/extra/2003/stationfire/profiles/latulippe.htm On 9/21/06, Bob Nelson wrote: > At this time let's remember that at least two radio personalities died > in the fire: WHJY's Dr. Metal (Mike Gonzalves) and also a > jock from the Nichols College station WNRC, Jimmy Gahan From francini@mac.com Thu Sep 21 11:53:18 2006 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:53:18 -0400 Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0609210826q1eed6edg9e1b30e30449bbff@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced0609210826q1eed6edg9e1b30e30449bbff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: WEEI's Dennis and Callahan discussed it at length this morning around 8:30; they had a father of one of the victims -- apparently he's a radio host down there. Sounded like there were serious allegations of cover-ups and payments made to fire marshalls and the like, with a large amount of butt- covering going on amongst all the various government officials. In other words, just another incident in a one-party state with no real accountability. j On 21 Sep 2006, at 11:26, Bob Nelson wrote: > Heard about the plea deal in which The Station nightclub owners Jeff > and Michael Derderian will be getting off pretty much scot-free. > Leveille on WBZ was discussing it last night and I wonder if WRKO will > talk for awhile (Howie, maybe). Tuned in this morning wondering what > RI's DePetro might say but he was out (Todd Feinburg in, it sounded > like.) DePetro covered the fire (or at least talked about it on radio) > in his WHJJ days. > > Tuned to WHJJ and Helen Glover was discussing it--the legal > implications; reaction of a father whose daughter died in the blaze, > etc. > > At this time let's remember that at least two radio personalities died > in the fire: WHJY's Dr. Metal (Mike Gonzalves) and also a > jock from the Nichols College station WNRC, Jimmy Gahan > > http://radio.about.com/library/weekly/aa022503a.htm?terms=night+fire > > http://www.boston.com/news/packages/nightclub_fire/victims/jgahan.htm > > Justice? From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Sep 21 11:55:05 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:55:05 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America References: <26516103.1158819411398.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <45126EC9.7030401@cssinc.com> Message-ID: <001501c6dd96$53312380$19eefea9@dstrassberg> The FM antenna appears to still be there. Indeed, an application for a low-power religious station in Lexington a few years ago identified the site as its proposed transmitter location. I think this was an app for 91.7 that probably now is unbuildable because, AFAIK, WAVM's application for a power increase (as well as another app for a new station in Lunenburg on 91.7) has been granted. I suspect, (although I do not know) that the FM transmission line to the antenna is still present and it's more than likely being used to detune the tower from 1150, 1510, and 1470. If the shield of the FM coax is not grounded, I think it could be driven to detune the tower. To the best of my knowledge, no skirt has been installed on the tower but it's a sure bet that the tower is detuned--probably at all three AM frequencies, because the 1150 and 1470 patterns (all four of them) would be way out of whack if the tall twoer were reradiating the signals. And 1470 has a huge problem with reradiating 1510. Sometimes 1510's audio is louder on 1470 than the 1470 audio. Sometimes the 1510 audio is considerably below the 1470 audio, but the 1510 audio is always present on 1470--at least on my Super Radio III. The problem could be in the radio, of course. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vita" To: "Eli Polonsky" Cc: "Dan Strassberg" ; ; "A. Joseph Ross" Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 6:51 AM Subject: Re: Herald: Where have you gone Air America > Eli Polonsky wrote: > >> Also, WAZN and WTTT recently suffered a lightning strike that > >> did quite a bit of damage (not visible from outside the site but > >> serious nonetheless according to WAZN's GM). You'd think the > >> nearby FM tower, which is at least 50% taller than the AM > >> towers would protect the shorter towers, but lightning has a > >> mind of its own. > >> > > > > Perhaps the lightning "sensed" somehow that the AM towers, > > with their underground grids, were a more substantial "path to > > ground" than the taller FM tower was. Only guessing, I really > > have no idea. Another possibility is perhaps the lightning may > > have hit the taller old FM tower first with no operational effect, > > then bounced to the AM towers. I guess you had to be there... > > > > EP > > > > > > > Which, of course, begs the question, is there anything at the other end > of the antenna lead on this tower? When 100.7 left the tower, were all > of the electronics pulled or is there some standby equipment still left > connected? Is the actual antenna still there or was it taken down > leaving just the steel frame? Are there any other services using the > tower? Just curious. > > Brian From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Sep 21 12:19:06 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:19:06 -0400 Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal In-Reply-To: References: <1fbbbced0609210826q1eed6edg9e1b30e30449bbff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060921121512.040c2088@donnahalper.com> >John wrote-- >In other words, just another incident in a one-party state with no >real accountability. Oh dear. Can we avoid turning this into a political rant during such a tragic time? We have seen BOTH parties do corrupt and vile things over the years. This one wasn't so much about which party is in power, since evidence shows that in times of crisis, either party will go for butt-covering and face-saving immediately. What bothers me is that we saw this movie before-- the Cocoanut Grove fire in 1942 contained many of the same elements, including over-crowding, blocked exits, fire inspectors who didn't do their jobs, and big political figures who wanted everything covered up. Supposedly laws were passed to prevent this sort of thing from happening again, but alas, if the laws are not enforced, ordinary people end up being badly mistreated while the truly guilty are never punished. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Sep 21 14:24:15 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:24:15 -0400 Subject: latest ratings, 12 + Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609211124h3212d341h2d6b138bebb383ce@mail.gmail.com> The 12 + ratings may not be as important as 25-54, but still worth looking at and discussing. Can't give actual numbers here...Radio And Records' site has them. --WKLB is actually the second most popular Greater Media station in town. Only WMJX is ahead of them. More listeners in 12 + than WTKK, WBOS, or WROR; in fact the country outlet is just slightly over twice as high as WBOS. Wonder now why they decided to move the country signal to 102.5? --I think the rating period started roughly around the time WILD-FM flipped to the WAAF simulcast. Ratings went down a bit, for now. --Twice as many people listen to WJIB as do listen to the Air America stations. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Sep 21 14:30:09 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:30:09 -0400 Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609211130n61b3d2e1kf8fd76b0fab3aa8e@mail.gmail.com> OK, maybe we can back off the political talk. However some discussion on WHJJ... one caller said that since the Derderians went bankrupt, they probably can't be sued, so maybe the officials in West Warwick can. And if they can't afford to pay out settlements, the state of R.I. may have to, etc. Without a trial we may never find out whom was responsible, be it the Derderians, the local officials, etc....the company that sold them the foam may rest easy knowing that the Derderians put it up themselves, which means the foam manufacturer/seller can't be held liable, etc. Some laws were passed in various places across the country after both the Coconut Grove fire and this one, and hopefully people will learn, but that won't be any comfort to the victims and their families. Crosses and memorials still exist at the site, which I drove past a year or two ago, "lest we forget"... From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Sep 21 14:56:57 2006 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:56:57 -0400 Subject: latest ratings, 12 + In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0609211124h3212d341h2d6b138bebb383ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002301c6ddaf$b94ca0e0$6800a8c0@Andrastea> > > --Twice as many people listen to WJIB as do listen to the Air > America stations. > ...and both of them said that they found WJIB far more relaxing to listen to that Air America... Sorry, couldn't resist... Brian Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 (800)231-8849 Fax: (800)329-2775 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.6/453 - Release Date: 9/20/2006 From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Sep 21 15:29:40 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:29:40 -0400 Subject: latest ratings, 12 + In-Reply-To: <002301c6ddaf$b94ca0e0$6800a8c0@Andrastea> References: <1fbbbced0609211124h3212d341h2d6b138bebb383ce@mail.gmail.com> <002301c6ddaf$b94ca0e0$6800a8c0@Andrastea> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609211229i1479cc4cvd28d1dfbea6dff5c@mail.gmail.com> On 9/21/06, Brian Vita wrote: > ...and both of them said that they found WJIB far more relaxing to listen to > that Air America... > > Sorry, couldn't resist... Ha! By the way, speaking of the ratings, WWZN and the ESPN combo (890/1400) are no shows yet again. Yes, as today's Herald pointed out, ESPN Boston can boast of carrying Sunday afternoon football games (while Westwood One's Monday night coverage airs on WEEI) and ESPN Boston does have locally based talk in the afternoons, but it looks like--at least in the 12+---WEEI dominates sports talk in town. WWZN on selling block... From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Thu Sep 21 16:10:49 2006 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0609210826q1eed6edg9e1b30e30449bbff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060921201049.37939.qmail@web50811.mail.yahoo.com> Unbelievable. I cannot believe that these two guys are going to actually get away with it. I personally knew Jimmy Gahan while he was a student and a disc jockey at Nichols College's WNRC. And I was also a good friend of the Latulippe family from many years back. This tragedy was all so avoidable. If I were the owners, I could never sleep well at night knowing that their negligence may have cost some 100 people their lives. Unbelievable. --- Bob Nelson wrote: > Heard about the plea deal in which The Station > nightclub owners Jeff > and Michael Derderian will be getting off pretty > much scot-free. > Leveille on WBZ was discussing it last night and I > wonder if WRKO will > talk for awhile (Howie, maybe). Tuned in this > morning wondering what > RI's DePetro might say but he was out (Todd Feinburg > in, it sounded > like.) DePetro covered the fire (or at least talked > about it on radio) > in his WHJJ days. > > Tuned to WHJJ and Helen Glover was discussing > it--the legal > implications; reaction of a father whose daughter > died in the blaze, > etc. > > At this time let's remember that at least two radio > personalities died > in the fire: WHJY's Dr. Metal (Mike Gonzalves) and > also a > jock from the Nichols College station WNRC, Jimmy > Gahan > > http://radio.about.com/library/weekly/aa022503a.htm?terms=night+fire > > http://www.boston.com/news/packages/nightclub_fire/victims/jgahan.htm > > Justice? > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Joe@attorneyross.com Thu Sep 21 17:02:28 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:02:28 -0400 Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060921121512.040c2088@donnahalper.com> References: Message-ID: <4512C5A4.14993.545DC17@localhost> On 21 Sep 2006 Donna Halper wrote: > Oh dear. Can we avoid turning this into a political rant during such > a tragic time? We have seen BOTH parties do corrupt and vile things > over the years. This one wasn't so much about which party is in > power, since evidence shows that in times of crisis, either party will > go for butt-covering and face-saving immediately. What bothers me is > that we saw this movie before-- the Cocoanut Grove fire in 1942 > contained many of the same elements, including over-crowding, blocked > exits, fire inspectors who didn't do their jobs, and big political > figures who wanted everything covered up. Supposedly laws were passed > to prevent this sort of thing from happening again, but alas, if the > laws are not enforced, ordinary people end up being badly mistreated > while the truly guilty are never punished. The Cocoanut Grove fire took place in Boston. Laws may have been passed, but they were passed in Massachusetts, not Rhode Island. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Sep 21 17:37:54 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:37:54 -0400 Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal References: <4512C5A4.14993.545DC17@localhost> Message-ID: <001c01c6ddc6$529b2440$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Actually, New York City enacted new laws immediately after the Cocoanut Grove fire with the intent of preventing a similar tragedy there. I remember the big signs that appeared in every restaurant stating "Occupancy by more than xxx persons is dangerous and unlawful." I think many decades passed before New York had a restaurant fire that claimed many lives and I recall that it happened in a private club and that many fewer than the Cocoanut Grove's 242 fatalities were recorded. I would be surprised to learn that New York City was the only jurisdiction that enacted laws on occupany of public places immediately after the Cocoanut Grove fire. OTOH, I have no idea whether Rhode Island or any community in Rhode Island enacted such a law. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "John Francini" ; "Bob Nelson" ; "Donna Halper" Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 5:02 PM Subject: Re: The Station nightclub plea deal > > The Cocoanut Grove fire took place in Boston. Laws may have been > passed, but they were passed in Massachusetts, not Rhode Island. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Sep 21 17:50:02 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:50:02 -0400 Subject: latest ratings, 12 + References: <002301c6ddaf$b94ca0e0$6800a8c0@Andrastea> Message-ID: <000701c6ddc7$ff792e40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Actually, despite the smaller audience, the new AAR morning show, "The Young Turks," is likely to be putting more people to sleep than anything that WJIB (AM) ever broadcast. In fact, though, Bob did run an infomercial once for a couple of weeks and that may hold the record for the number of listeners who fell asleep while listening to WJIB. As for the Young Turks, the program name suggests that they are Muslims. Of course, they aren't, but I'm surprised that Hannity and O'Reilly haven't yet tried to make something of it. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vita" To: "'Bob Nelson'" ; Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:56 PM Subject: RE: latest ratings, 12 + > > > > --Twice as many people listen to WJIB as do listen to the Air > > America stations. > > > ...and both of them said that they found WJIB far more relaxing to listen to > that Air America... > > Sorry, couldn't resist... > > Brian > > Brian T. Vita, President > Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. > 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 > Peabody, MA 01960-5691 > (800)231-8849 > Fax: (800)329-2775 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.6/453 - Release Date: 9/20/2006 > > > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Thu Sep 21 21:08:05 2006 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal In-Reply-To: <20060921201049.37939.qmail@web50811.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060922010805.51533.qmail@web55312.mail.re4.yahoo.com> --- "Peter Q. George" wrote: > Unbelievable. I cannot believe that these two guys > are going to actually get away with it. #1.) Their lives are ruined. They will probably never work in any responsible field and have hundred of civil suits pending. They will probably live in poverty and on the charity of others for the rest of their life. 2.) 4 years in jail is hardly "getting away with it". (The brother who did not get jail time was not involved in the running of the club.) 3.) It was an accident...not willful negligence. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Sep 22 07:23:35 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 07:23:35 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America References: <45133E0F.14453.529C1E@localhost> Message-ID: <001601c6de3c$ea96e740$19eefea9@dstrassberg> As I have said several times, you never can tell when 1470 is operating on reduced power. You can't draw conclusions from a small number of observations. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; ; "Eli Polonsky" Cc: "Dan Strassberg" Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:36 AM Subject: Re: Herald: Where have you gone Air America > On 21 Sep 2006 at 2:45, Eli Polonsky wrote: > > > In addition to the intermodulation factor with also nearby WWZN that > > Dan mentioned, the other possible reason would be in your radio. If > > you have a modern digital car tuner, many of them have an automatic > > attenuation circuit that reduces sensitivity when it receives > > extremely strong signals, such as when driving nearby transmitters. > > Interestingly enough, when I drove to Lexington today, I didn't have > any problem as I drove by the towers on Route 2, but somewhere on > Waltham Street, just after I got off Route 2, there was a subdued > hash on 1430, no problem on 1200. Later, as I got closer to Route 2, > there was some hash on 1200 for a short distance, but 1430 had > cleared. It was nowhere near as bad as it was in the past. > > -- > This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and > may contain privileged information. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify the undersigned immediately and delete > all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you. > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Fri Sep 22 09:25:18 2006 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 06:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal In-Reply-To: <20060922010805.51533.qmail@web55312.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060922132518.95801.qmail@web50812.mail.yahoo.com> > #1.) Their lives are ruined. They will probably > never > work in any responsible field and have hundred of > civil suits pending. They will probably live in > poverty and on the charity of others for the rest of > their life. With all due respect, they are still alive.... and where is life, there is still hope for them. As for Jimmy Gahan IV's parents, they lost their ONLY child. And for Dale Latulippe's family, they lost their father. The survivor's lives will never be the same. > 2.) 4 years in jail is hardly "getting away with > it". > (The brother who did not get jail time was not > involved in the running of the club.) > > 3.) It was an accident...not willful negligence. > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Sep 22 11:17:16 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:17:16 -0400 Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal References: <20060922132518.95801.qmail@web50812.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <019301c6de5a$4ea1fe60$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > > #1.) Their lives are ruined. They will probably > > never > > work in any responsible field and have hundred of > > civil suits pending. They will probably live in > > poverty and on the charity of others for the rest of > > their life. > > With all due respect, they are still alive.... and > where is life, there is still hope for them. As for > Jimmy Gahan IV's parents, they lost their ONLY child. > And for Dale Latulippe's family, they lost their > father. The survivor's lives will never be the same. And it won't be changed if the Dederians did 4 or 40 years. Don't forget #'s 2 & 3... > > 2.) 4 years in jail is hardly "getting away with > > it". > > (The brother who did not get jail time was not > > involved in the running of the club.) > > > > 3.) It was an accident...not willful negligence. From Joe@attorneyross.com Fri Sep 22 14:46:34 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:46:34 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America Message-ID: <4513F74A.24190.63AE1B@localhost> On 21 Sep 2006 at 2:45, Eli Polonsky wrote: > In addition to the intermodulation factor with also nearby WWZN that > Dan mentioned, the other possible reason would be in your radio. If > you have a modern digital car tuner, many of them have an automatic > attenuation circuit that reduces sensitivity when it receives > extremely strong signals, such as when driving nearby transmitters. Interestingly enough, when I drove to Lexington today, I didn't have any problem as I drove by the towers on Route 2, but somewhere on Waltham Street, just after I got off Route 2, there was a subdued hash on 1430, no problem on 1200. Later, as I got closer to Route 2, there was some hash on 1200 for a short distance, but 1430 had cleared. It was nowhere near as bad as it was in the past. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Sep 22 15:25:05 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:25:05 -0400 Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal In-Reply-To: <019301c6de5a$4ea1fe60$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20060922132518.95801.qmail@web50812.mail.yahoo.com> <019301c6de5a$4ea1fe60$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060922152414.0414a690@donnahalper.com> it was written: > > 3.) It was an accident...not willful negligence. Umm, based on what I read, the Derderians absolutely bought the stuff that was NOT fire resistent and they KNEW it wasn't-- but it was cheaper. Hardly an accident. From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Sep 22 15:28:28 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:28:28 -0400 Subject: happy new year Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060922152746.04142f90@donnahalper.com> Tonight is Jewish New Year and to all our Jewish list-members and friends, a happy, healthy and peaceful new year. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Sep 22 16:21:15 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:21:15 -0400 Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal References: <20060922132518.95801.qmail@web50812.mail.yahoo.com><019301c6de5a$4ea1fe60$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20060922152414.0414a690@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <03bf01c6de84$a991ecc0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > it was written: > > > > 3.) It was an accident...not willful negligence. > > Umm, based on what I read, the Derderians absolutely bought the stuff > that was NOT fire resistent and they KNEW it wasn't-- but it was > cheaper. Hardly an accident. But they were told by the fire inspectors it was acceptable....and the fire inspectors signed off on it. Are the fire inspectors going to jail? From Joe@attorneyross.com Fri Sep 22 16:42:32 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:42:32 -0400 Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal In-Reply-To: <03bf01c6de84$a991ecc0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <45141278.20761.CDDA7A@localhost> On 22 Sep 2006 Don A. wrote: > But they were told by the fire inspectors it was acceptable....and the > fire inspectors signed off on it. > > Are the fire inspectors going to jail? I wish they would. I've seen enough instances of inspectors passing things that didn't deserve to pass, often without even bothering to do an inspection. This happens regularly in housing code enforcement. Sometimes it can be attributed to incompetence or laziness, sometimes one suspects other motives, but nothing can be proven. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Sep 22 16:30:47 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:30:47 -0400 Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal In-Reply-To: <03bf01c6de84$a991ecc0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20060922132518.95801.qmail@web50812.mail.yahoo.com> <019301c6de5a$4ea1fe60$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20060922152414.0414a690@donnahalper.com> <03bf01c6de84$a991ecc0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060922162907.04195758@donnahalper.com> >Don wrote-- > >But they were told by the fire inspectors it was acceptable....and the fire >inspectors signed off on it. > >Are the fire inspectors going to jail? That is exactly my point-- just like in the Cocoanut Grove fire, it was one little guy (a bus boy) who got blamed, while the bigger fish-- who knew there were things wrong but did nothing about them-- didn't suffer any imprisonment. The fire inspectors were obviously corrupt, as were a number of other people, so why is only the Great White tour manager sitting in jail? From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Sep 22 17:30:21 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:30:21 -0400 Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal References: <20060922132518.95801.qmail@web50812.mail.yahoo.com><019301c6de5a$4ea1fe60$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net><7.0.1.0.2.20060922152414.0414a690@donnahalper.com><03bf01c6de84$a991ecc0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20060922162907.04195758@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <044b01c6de8e$ee0d2900$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > ...so why is only the Great > White tour manager sitting in jail? Soon to be joined by one of the Dederian brothers. From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Sep 22 17:21:18 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:21:18 -0400 Subject: happy new year In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060922152746.04142f90@donnahalper.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20060922152746.04142f90@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060922172029.02637b58@mac.com> At 03:28 PM 9/22/2006, Donna Halper wrote: >Tonight is Jewish New Year and to all our Jewish list-members and >friends, a happy, healthy and peaceful new year. And a happy New Year to you. Shalom! Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Sep 23 17:07:46 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:07:46 -0400 Subject: credit where credit is due In-Reply-To: <00ac01c6c0cf$1c4efe20$19b38018@Mark> References: <00ac01c6c0cf$1c4efe20$19b38018@Mark> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060923170249.03f95218@donnahalper.com> Since several nice folks on this board are always quick to write how Air America is a failure, may I point you to the Springfield MA book? My theory has always been that niche formats succeed in certain markets. WHMP (Northampton/Springfield) dumped nearly all of its right-wing talkers over the past year and moved to a combination of AAR and Jones (Thom Hartmann, Stephanie Miller, etc). I notice their numbers have gone from a .08 to a 1.6 ... Okay fine, it's not top 5, but in a market dominated by 5 colleges, I think they made the right move and it seems to be paying off-- they run a lot of local features, lots of local news, and progressive talk, and every time I listen to them, they are nearly sold out. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Sep 23 17:14:59 2006 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:14:59 -0400 Subject: credit where credit is due In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060923170249.03f95218@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <000001c6df55$56e4b080$3c9e05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> I think much of the criticism of Air America's performance is a reaction to the huge amount of hype that occurred when the network hit the air. The mainstream media made it seem like the network was the biggest thing to happen in radio since FM. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf > Of Donna Halper > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:08 PM > To: Boston Radio > Subject: credit where credit is due > > Since several nice folks on this board are always quick to write how > Air America is a failure, may I point you to the Springfield MA > book? My theory has always been that niche formats succeed in > certain markets. WHMP (Northampton/Springfield) dumped nearly all of > its right-wing talkers over the past year and moved to a combination > of AAR and Jones (Thom Hartmann, Stephanie Miller, etc). I notice > their numbers have gone from a .08 to a 1.6 ... Okay fine, it's not > top 5, but in a market dominated by 5 colleges, I think they made the > right move and it seems to be paying off-- they run a lot of local > features, lots of local news, and progressive talk, and every time I > listen to them, they are nearly sold out. > From me@billoneill.us Sat Sep 23 17:15:58 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:15:58 -0400 Subject: credit where credit is due In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060923170249.03f95218@donnahalper.com> References: <00ac01c6c0cf$1c4efe20$19b38018@Mark> <7.0.1.0.2.20060923170249.03f95218@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <4515A40E.3040103@billoneill.us> Donna Halper wrote: > Okay fine, it's not top 5, but in a market dominated by 5 colleges, I > think they made the right move and it seems to be paying off-- they > run a lot of local features, lots of local news, and progressive talk, > and every time I listen to them, they are nearly sold out. I have been surprised to see that AAR has tanked in the Burlington-Plattsburg market. Besides being, well, Bernie's back yard, there's UVM, Champlain College, etc. One possibility is that none of the stations that have run the network have any local presence whatsoever. Just glorified repeaters. Bill O'Neill Shoreham, Vt. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Sep 23 17:16:32 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:16:32 -0400 Subject: one other niche market Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060923171258.040f7980@donnahalper.com> And continuing my theory that progressive talk works well in some markets but not in others, KOPT in Eugene (OR) switched over to a combination of AAR and Jones and in one book, got the highest numbers the station has had in two years, a 3.4 share. Yeah, I know it doesn't work in a lot of places, but in places where there is a good signal and some promotion, the AAR/Jones combination seems to bring in some listeners. Just sayin'... From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Sep 23 17:30:01 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:30:01 -0400 Subject: credit where credit is due In-Reply-To: <000001c6df55$56e4b080$3c9e05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20060923170249.03f95218@donnahalper.com> <000001c6df55$56e4b080$3c9e05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060923172743.03f21390@donnahalper.com> At 05:14 PM 9/23/2006, Daniel Billings wrote: >I think much of the criticism of Air America's performance is a reaction to >the huge amount of hype that occurred when the network hit the air. The >mainstream media made it seem like the network was the biggest thing to >happen in radio since FM. Well, yes and no. Based on what I saw nationally, most media critics were very skeptical-- but just about all of them expected big things from Franken, given how well known he was as a comedian. Alas, more often than not, his show wasn't funny, and that was part of the problem. I think that's why many AAR stations tried to find a way to add in Stephanie Miller (who IS funny) and Ed Schultz (who is more of a populist and doesn't tend to rant). The stations that are running combinations of the Air America and Jones programs seem to be doing better than those that rely on all-AAR personalities. From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Sep 23 17:33:53 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:33:53 -0400 Subject: credit where credit is due In-Reply-To: <4515A40E.3040103@billoneill.us> References: <00ac01c6c0cf$1c4efe20$19b38018@Mark> <7.0.1.0.2.20060923170249.03f95218@donnahalper.com> <4515A40E.3040103@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060923172930.0263c980@mac.com> At 05:15 PM 9/23/2006, Bill O'Neill wrote: >I have been surprised to see that AAR has tanked in the >Burlington-Plattsburg market. Besides being, well, Bernie's back >yard, there's UVM, Champlain College, etc. One possibility is that >none of the stations that have run the network have any local >presence whatsoever. Just glorified repeaters. AFAIK, in that market they have been on weak signals, keep switching stations, some of them daytimers, etc.. I'de be surprised if many people even know where to find them on the dial. Have they done any advertising, or do they just expect people (many of whom don't even consider AM) to find them while tuning around? Regardless of the potential audience, there still needs to be marketing and a good, consistent signal. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Sep 23 18:12:31 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:12:31 -0400 Subject: credit where credit is due In-Reply-To: <4515A40E.3040103@billoneill.us> References: <00ac01c6c0cf$1c4efe20$19b38018@Mark> <7.0.1.0.2.20060923170249.03f95218@donnahalper.com> <4515A40E.3040103@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060923181148.04059570@donnahalper.com> Bill O wrote-- >I have been surprised to see that AAR has tanked in the >Burlington-Plattsburg market. Besides being, well, Bernie's back >yard, there's UVM, Champlain College, etc. One possibility is that >none of the stations that have run the network have any local >presence whatsoever. Just glorified repeaters. When I was up there, I thought they were on some rather poor signals too. That has also been a factor-- minimal promotion, small budgets, crappy signals. Not an excuse-- just a factor. From me@billoneill.us Sat Sep 23 20:29:13 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 20:29:13 -0400 Subject: credit where credit is due In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060923181148.04059570@donnahalper.com> References: <00ac01c6c0cf$1c4efe20$19b38018@Mark> <7.0.1.0.2.20060923170249.03f95218@donnahalper.com> <4515A40E.3040103@billoneill.us> <7.0.1.0.2.20060923181148.04059570@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <4515D159.6080806@billoneill.us> Donna Halper wrote: > When I was up there, I thought they were on some rather poor signals > too. That has also been a factor-- minimal promotion, small budgets, > crappy signals. Not an excuse-- just a factor. > Without a doubt. A solution that AAR could find would be to capture time on a lot of small AMers around the state. What they lack in footprint they make up for in tenacity when it comes to dealing with the mountain peaks. And cost is not as much of a factor. Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Sep 23 23:06:35 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:06:35 -0400 Subject: credit where credit is due In-Reply-To: <4515D159.6080806@billoneill.us> References: <00ac01c6c0cf$1c4efe20$19b38018@Mark> <7.0.1.0.2.20060923170249.03f95218@donnahalper.com> <4515A40E.3040103@billoneill.us> <7.0.1.0.2.20060923181148.04059570@donnahalper.com> <4515D159.6080806@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609232006y56a1dab2q15af34765d21d036@mail.gmail.com> By the way, two days after the Al Franken documentary "God Spoke" opens in Dallas, a group called Guadelupe Radio is set to take over KXEB, Air America's affiliate there... The group is turning KXEB into English-language Catholic broadcasting, and another station in town to Spanish language Catholic radio. From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Sep 23 23:43:31 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:43:31 -0400 Subject: credit where credit is due In-Reply-To: <4515A40E.3040103@billoneill.us> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20060923170249.03f95218@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <4515C6A3.9089.2125D10@localhost> On 23 Sep 2006 at 17:15, Bill O'Neill wrote: > I have been surprised to see that AAR has tanked in the > Burlington-Plattsburg market. Besides being, well, Bernie's back > yard, there's UVM, Champlain College, etc. One possibility is that > none of the stations that have run the network have any local presence > whatsoever. Just glorified repeaters. Or maybe not enough promotion. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sun Sep 24 02:22:46 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 02:22:46 -0400 Subject: credit where credit is due References: <7.0.1.0.2.20060923170249.03f95218@donnahalper.com><000001c6df55$56e4b080$3c9e05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <7.0.1.0.2.20060923172743.03f21390@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <030501c6dfa1$f6f7c700$767ffea9@desktop> > At 05:14 PM 9/23/2006, Daniel Billings wrote: > > >I think much of the criticism of Air America's performance is a reaction to > >the huge amount of hype that occurred when the network hit the air. The > >mainstream media made it seem like the network was the biggest thing to > >happen in radio since FM. > Then Auntie "Donna Halper" said: > > Well, yes and no. Based on what I saw nationally, most media critics > were very skeptical-- Like Satelite radio, AA was getting much more ink than they deserved. (By reading the papers, you'd think everyone was listening to XM or Serius.....) AA seems to generate an inordinate amount of ink. >>but just about all of them expected big things > from Franken, given how well known he was as a comedian. Alas, more > often than not, his show wasn't funny, and that was part of the > problem. I think that's why many AAR stations tried to find a way to > add in Stephanie Miller (who IS funny) and Ed Schultz (who is more of > a populist and doesn't tend to rant). Two liberals that appear to know how to be entertaining is Stephanie Miller and Keith Olberman (now that his show is openly courting anti-O'reilly factor viewers.) Donna, I'd be interested in knowing your opinion of Randi Rhodes show... From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Sep 24 03:12:21 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 03:12:21 -0400 Subject: credit where credit is due In-Reply-To: <030501c6dfa1$f6f7c700$767ffea9@desktop> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20060923170249.03f95218@donnahalper.com> <000001c6df55$56e4b080$3c9e05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <7.0.1.0.2.20060923172743.03f21390@donnahalper.com> <030501c6dfa1$f6f7c700$767ffea9@desktop> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060924025645.026479b8@donnahalper.com> >it was written-- > >Two liberals that appear to know how to be entertaining is Stephanie Miller >and Keith Olberman (now that his show is openly courting anti-O'reilly >factor viewers.) > >Donna, I'd be interested in knowing your opinion of Randi Rhodes show... Keith Olbermann is my cultural hero these days-- not because he is a liberal but because he is INTERESTING -- an articulate and passionate critic of this president's policies who knows how to state his case without devolving into pointless ranting. And yes, I find his Jon Stewart-like sarcasm can be very amusing at times, because some politicians really are ridiculous and deserve a little ribbing from media critics. Keith may have liberal politics, but he will criticise Democrats who act stooopidly just as quickly as he will criticise Republicans. But overall, I hear waaaay too much ranting coming from both sides, and I am not fond of it. Whether it's Michael Savage or Hugh Hewitt from the right or, sad to say, Randi Rhodes from the left, the one-note samba rapidly becomes tedious for me. I understand-- Michael and Hugh hate liberals with a passion, and Randi hates Bush and Cheney just as much. Okay fine, now that you guys have all made your point-- how do we fill the rest of the show? I used to find Randi a lot more interesting, but as time has passed, she seems to be really stuck in her intense dislike of the Bush White House-- which is her privilege but doesn't make her show very interesting. She's very bright and very determined, but a good show has to have some variety. I have the same problem with Savage-- oh my gawd, can we do one show without calling liberals "communists" or saying they all hate America? At least Stephanie and Keith (and to some degree Ed Schultz and Thom Hartmann) know how to express their views without becoming boring and monochromatic. I like a host who avoids being totally predictable, and I like a host who can do more than spew endless insults. As I have said many times, I am politically a moderate-- conservative on a few issues, liberal on others. But when I listen to radio, I want to be informed and entertained, no matter whose show I tune in. Not all the right wingers know how to do that kind of show, nor do many of the left wingers. And as anyone who has tried it will tell you, doing an interesting talk show is harder than it might seem. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Sep 24 12:36:28 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:36:28 -0400 Subject: credit where credit is due References: <00ac01c6c0cf$1c4efe20$19b38018@Mark><7.0.1.0.2.20060923170249.03f95218@donnahalper.com> <4515A40E.3040103@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <000d01c6dff7$9b922440$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Until a few weeks ago, AAR was carried by 1390 in Burlington. The station (calls were WVAA while it carred AAR, I think, but may now have changed) obviously doesn't have the signal of WVMT or WDEV (although WDEV may not do so well in Burlington) but 1390 ought to do OK in Burlington, especially during the day. However, if nobody is aware of the programming, I guess you can't really expect many people to tune in. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Donna Halper" Cc: "Boston Radio" Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:15 PM Subject: Re: credit where credit is due > Donna Halper wrote: > > Okay fine, it's not top 5, but in a market dominated by 5 colleges, I > > think they made the right move and it seems to be paying off-- they > > run a lot of local features, lots of local news, and progressive talk, > > and every time I listen to them, they are nearly sold out. > I have been surprised to see that AAR has tanked in the > Burlington-Plattsburg market. Besides being, well, Bernie's back yard, > there's UVM, Champlain College, etc. One possibility is that none of > the stations that have run the network have any local presence > whatsoever. Just glorified repeaters. > > Bill O'Neill > Shoreham, Vt. From lglavin@mail.com Sun Sep 24 13:46:44 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:46:44 -0500 Subject: credit where credit is due Message-ID: <20060924174645.081131F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Larry Weil" >To: "Boston Radio" >Subject: Re: credit where credit is due >Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:33:53 -0400 >AFAIK, in that market they have been on weak signals, keep >switching stations, some of them daytimers, etc.. I'de be >surprised if many people even know where to find them on the dial. >Have they done any advertising, or do they just expect people (many >of whom don't even consider AM) to find them while tuning around? >Regardless of the potential audience, there still needs to be >marketing and a good, consistent signal. >Larry Weil >Lake Wobegone, NH This point not only pertains to AAR's success or lack thereof... check the DCRTV link on fybush.com; the local NFL football team's games have been placed by the team owner on two suburban FM rimshotters and a local AM with nighttime flea power. However he made his fortune, this owner didn't acquaint himself with the realities of radio (not the first one to do so). Here is programming that comes with a huge built-in audience,but people there are apparently giving up on the idea of Redskins games on the radio. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com From radiotony@comcast.net Sun Sep 24 17:05:01 2006 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:05:01 -0400 Subject: credit where credit is due In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060924025645.026479b8@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <200609242105.k8OL5Ivl005173@rolinin.bostonradio.org> I would agree with Donna's comments about Olbermann. He's hilarious and that is what makes the difference for me. And I would add, I don't think he is that liberal in reality - he's just being an astute and sane host! Best, Tony Anthony Schinella CEO/PD/A&E, WKXL 1450, Concord, NH Online @ http://www.wkxl1450.com Blog @ http://politizine.blogspot.com WKXL: Winner of 6 N.H. Association of Broadcasters Golden Mike Awards [10/2005]; 3 N.H. Associated Press Broadcasters Association Awards [04/2006]; and Best of New Hampshire Magazine 2006, Extreme Local Radio Station [06/2006]. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 3:12 AM To: Don A.; boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: credit where credit is due Keith Olbermann is my cultural hero these days-- not because he is a liberal but because he is INTERESTING -- an articulate and passionate critic of this president's policies who knows how to state his case without devolving into pointless ranting. And yes, I find his Jon Stewart-like sarcasm can be very amusing at times, because some politicians really are ridiculous and deserve a little ribbing from media critics. Keith may have liberal politics, but he will criticise Democrats who act stooopidly just as quickly as he will criticise Republicans. But overall, I hear waaaay too much ranting coming from both sides, and I am not fond of it. Whether it's Michael Savage or Hugh Hewitt from the right or, sad to say, Randi Rhodes from the left, the one-note samba rapidly becomes tedious for me. I understand-- Michael and Hugh hate liberals with a passion, and Randi hates Bush and Cheney just as much. Okay fine, now that you guys have all made your point-- how do we fill the rest of the show? I used to find Randi a lot more interesting, but as time has passed, she seems to be really stuck in her intense dislike of the Bush White House-- which is her privilege but doesn't make her show very interesting. She's very bright and very determined, but a good show has to have some variety. I have the same problem with Savage-- oh my gawd, can we do one show without calling liberals "communists" or saying they all hate America? At least Stephanie and Keith (and to some degree Ed Schultz and Thom Hartmann) know how to express their views without becoming boring and monochromatic. I like a host who avoids being totally predictable, and I like a host who can do more than spew endless insults. As I have said many times, I am politically a moderate-- conservative on a few issues, liberal on others. But when I listen to radio, I want to be informed and entertained, no matter whose show I tune in. Not all the right wingers know how to do that kind of show, nor do many of the left wingers. And as anyone who has tried it will tell you, doing an interesting talk show is harder than it might seem. From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Sep 24 19:10:04 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:10:04 -0400 Subject: Delays on live coverage Message-ID: <4516D80C.10251.4876EC@localhost> Tuesday evening, at Deb Goldberg's campaign headquarters, I noticed that, between the TV tuned to NECN and the one tuned to Channel 38, there was a delay of several seconds on NECN. Has this sort of thing become standard since the Janet Jackson incident? Does Channel 38 not have a delay or was it simply less of a delay? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From francini@mac.com Sun Sep 24 20:34:22 2006 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:34:22 -0400 Subject: Delays on live coverage In-Reply-To: <4516D80C.10251.4876EC@localhost> References: <4516D80C.10251.4876EC@localhost> Message-ID: Speaking of delays in live coverage, right now I'm watching the Patriots with Gil Santos & Gino's audio on WBCN. Why the heck is the audio about 8 seconds behind the video? Did they fail to turn off the phone-in delay when they went to the live game? Makes it extremely frustrating to watch the game with the proper announcers (i.e., NOT NBC network announcers!) john francini At 19:10 -0400 9/24/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >Tuesday evening, at Deb Goldberg's campaign headquarters, I noticed >that, between the TV tuned to NECN and the one tuned to Channel 38, >there was a delay of several seconds on NECN. Has this sort of thing >become standard since the Janet Jackson incident? Does Channel 38 >not have a delay or was it simply less of a delay? > >-- >A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 >Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com -- John Francini, francini@mac.com "The journey is more important than the destination-that's part of life. If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always disappointed." -Donald Knuth From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sun Sep 24 20:36:44 2006 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:36:44 -0400 Subject: Delays on live coverage In-Reply-To: AAAAANAIlGo8EmdDjxy6C1pkI1hEWiUA Message-ID: <013801c6e03a$ad4c1f90$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> The 8 second delay on WBCN is because of HD Radio. You'd think they would turn it off during the game, like it's been reported that WFAN and WCBS do during daytime Mets/Yankees games. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf > Of John Francini > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:34 PM > To: A. Joseph Ross; Boston Radio > Subject: Re: Delays on live coverage > > Speaking of delays in live coverage, right now I'm watching the > Patriots with Gil Santos & Gino's audio on WBCN. Why the heck is the > audio about 8 seconds behind the video? Did they fail to turn off > the phone-in delay when they went to the live game? > > Makes it extremely frustrating to watch the game with the proper > announcers (i.e., NOT NBC network announcers!) > > john francini > > > At 19:10 -0400 9/24/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > >Tuesday evening, at Deb Goldberg's campaign headquarters, I noticed > >that, between the TV tuned to NECN and the one tuned to Channel 38, > >there was a delay of several seconds on NECN. Has this sort of thing > >become standard since the Janet Jackson incident? Does Channel 38 > >not have a delay or was it simply less of a delay? > > > >-- > >A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > >Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > -- > John Francini, francini@mac.com > > "The journey is more important than the destination-that's part of > life. If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always > disappointed." -Donald Knuth From francini@mac.com Sun Sep 24 20:40:15 2006 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:40:15 -0400 Subject: Delays on live coverage In-Reply-To: <013801c6e03a$ad4c1f90$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> References: <013801c6e03a$ad4c1f90$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> Message-ID: It may have been discussed before, but why should the analog signal have to be delayed simply because the HD encoding delays the digital signal by a like amount? Why not let them be asynchronous to each other? j At 20:36 -0400 9/24/06, Jeff Lehmann wrote: >The 8 second delay on WBCN is because of HD Radio. You'd think they would >turn it off during the game, like it's been reported that WFAN and WCBS do >during daytime Mets/Yankees games. > >Jeff Lehmann >Hanson, MA > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf >> Of John Francini >> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:34 PM >> To: A. Joseph Ross; Boston Radio >> Subject: Re: Delays on live coverage >> >> Speaking of delays in live coverage, right now I'm watching the >> Patriots with Gil Santos & Gino's audio on WBCN. Why the heck is the >> audio about 8 seconds behind the video? Did they fail to turn off >> the phone-in delay when they went to the live game? >> >> Makes it extremely frustrating to watch the game with the proper >> announcers (i.e., NOT NBC network announcers!) >> >> john francini >> >> >> At 19:10 -0400 9/24/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >> >Tuesday evening, at Deb Goldberg's campaign headquarters, I noticed >> >that, between the TV tuned to NECN and the one tuned to Channel 38, >> >there was a delay of several seconds on NECN. Has this sort of thing >> >become standard since the Janet Jackson incident? Does Channel 38 >> >not have a delay or was it simply less of a delay? >> > >> >-- >> >A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >> > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 >> >Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> -- >> John Francini, francini@mac.com >> >> "The journey is more important than the destination-that's part of >> life. If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always >> disappointed." -Donald Knuth -- John Francini, francini@mac.com "The journey is more important than the destination-that's part of life. If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always disappointed." -Donald Knuth From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sun Sep 24 20:42:39 2006 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:42:39 -0400 Subject: Delays on live coverage In-Reply-To: AAAAANAIlGo8EmdDjxy6C1pkI1ikWiUA Message-ID: <013901c6e03b$812d74d0$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> That is done because in a car, the HD signal will quite often drop out unless you are within 15 miles or so of the transmitter. If they were not in sync, it would be quite annoying. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA > -----Original Message----- > From: John Francini [mailto:francini@mac.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:40 PM > To: Jeff Lehmann; 'A. Joseph Ross'; 'Boston Radio' > Subject: RE: Delays on live coverage > > It may have been discussed before, but why should the analog signal > have to be delayed simply because the HD encoding delays the digital > signal by a like amount? Why not let them be asynchronous to each > other? > > j > > > At 20:36 -0400 9/24/06, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > >The 8 second delay on WBCN is because of HD Radio. You'd think they would > >turn it off during the game, like it's been reported that WFAN and WCBS > do > >during daytime Mets/Yankees games. > > > >Jeff Lehmann > >Hanson, MA > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > >> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On > Behalf > >> Of John Francini > >> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:34 PM > >> To: A. Joseph Ross; Boston Radio > >> Subject: Re: Delays on live coverage > >> > >> Speaking of delays in live coverage, right now I'm watching the > >> Patriots with Gil Santos & Gino's audio on WBCN. Why the heck is the > >> audio about 8 seconds behind the video? Did they fail to turn off > >> the phone-in delay when they went to the live game? > >> > >> Makes it extremely frustrating to watch the game with the proper > >> announcers (i.e., NOT NBC network announcers!) > >> > >> john francini > >> > >> > >> At 19:10 -0400 9/24/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > >> >Tuesday evening, at Deb Goldberg's campaign headquarters, I noticed > >> >that, between the TV tuned to NECN and the one tuned to Channel 38, > >> >there was a delay of several seconds on NECN. Has this sort of thing > >> >become standard since the Janet Jackson incident? Does Channel 38 > >> >not have a delay or was it simply less of a delay? > >> > > >> >-- > >> >A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > >> > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > >> >Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > >> > >> -- > >> John Francini, francini@mac.com > >> > >> "The journey is more important than the destination-that's part of > >> life. If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always > >> disappointed." -Donald Knuth > > -- > John Francini, francini@mac.com > > "The journey is more important than the destination-that's part of > life. If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always > disappointed." -Donald Knuth From john@minutemancomm.com Sun Sep 24 20:47:58 2006 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:47:58 -0400 Subject: Delays on live coverage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: HD radios blend back to analog when they loose the HD signal which has no where near the range of the analog signal. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of John Francini Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:40 PM To: Jeff Lehmann; 'A. Joseph Ross'; 'Boston Radio' Subject: RE: Delays on live coverage It may have been discussed before, but why should the analog signal have to be delayed simply because the HD encoding delays the digital signal by a like amount? Why not let them be asynchronous to each other? From john@minutemancomm.com Sun Sep 24 20:51:56 2006 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:51:56 -0400 Subject: Delays on live coverage Message-ID: That would be a good way to get you thrown out of the HD alliance. And what about all the customers in HD? -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lehmann Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:37 PM To: 'John Francini'; 'A. Joseph Ross'; 'Boston Radio' Subject: RE: Delays on live coverage The 8 second delay on WBCN is because of HD Radio. You'd think they would turn it off during the game, like it's been reported that WFAN and WCBS do during daytime Mets/Yankees games. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From francini@mac.com Sun Sep 24 21:53:13 2006 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:53:13 -0400 Subject: Delays on live coverage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What, all 100 of them? No, seriously -- what is the penetration of HD Radio at the moment? I would think that until HD radio has significant market penetration -- like even 5% of all radios in a market -- the 95% who still pay the bills by listening on analog should get consideration over the minuscule HD minority. Pardon me while I remain underwhelmed. Why does HD radio need 8 seconds of delay when HD TV (how I'm watching the Patriots game as I write this) has either no appreciable delay or a much smaller delay? john At 20:51 -0400 9/24/06, John Mullaney wrote: > > >That would be a good way to get you thrown out of the HD alliance. And what >about all the customers in HD? > > >-----Original Message----- >From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of >Jeff Lehmann >Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:37 PM >To: 'John Francini'; 'A. Joseph Ross'; 'Boston Radio' >Subject: RE: Delays on live coverage > >The 8 second delay on WBCN is because of HD Radio. You'd think they would >turn it off during the game, like it's been reported that WFAN and WCBS do >during daytime Mets/Yankees games. > >Jeff Lehmann >Hanson, MA -- John Francini, francini@mac.com "The journey is more important than the destination-that's part of life. If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always disappointed." -Donald Knuth From nostaticatall@charter.net Mon Sep 25 03:02:20 2006 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 03:02:20 -0400 Subject: Delays on live coverage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5266b052d66d5b71245969ec5d976de2@charter.net> It's not just HD that causes delays. Where I am, I can listen to Red Sox day games on three different stations, WEEI, WTAG and WEEI-FM. All of them have different length delays. Unlike HD, these are regular delays added so that the producer can edit out any profanity before it hit's the air. WEEI-FM has the shortest--a couple of seconds--while it's simulcast partner WEEI has an 8 second delay. WTAG varies. If they shut it off when switching to the Sox from regular programming, it's only a second or so. If they leave it on, it's more like 6 to 7 seconds. Add in HD to all this and it makes it virtually impossible to sync up radio programming to TV. Plus, after the Janet Jackson Super Bowl incident, doesn't TV stations have their own delays as well? Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Sep 24, 2006, at 9:53 PM, John Francini wrote: > What, all 100 of them? > > No, seriously -- what is the penetration of HD Radio at the moment? I > would think that until HD radio has significant market penetration -- > like even 5% of all radios in a market -- the 95% who still pay the > bills by listening on analog should get consideration over the > minuscule HD minority. > > Pardon me while I remain underwhelmed. Why does HD radio need 8 > seconds of delay when HD TV (how I'm watching the Patriots game as I > write this) has either no appreciable delay or a much smaller delay? > > john > > > At 20:51 -0400 9/24/06, John Mullaney wrote: >> >> >> That would be a good way to get you thrown out of the HD alliance. >> And what >> about all the customers in HD? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On >> Behalf Of >> Jeff Lehmann >> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:37 PM >> To: 'John Francini'; 'A. Joseph Ross'; 'Boston Radio' >> Subject: RE: Delays on live coverage >> >> The 8 second delay on WBCN is because of HD Radio. You'd think they >> would >> turn it off during the game, like it's been reported that WFAN and >> WCBS do >> during daytime Mets/Yankees games. >> >> Jeff Lehmann >> Hanson, MA > > -- > John Francini, francini@mac.com > > "The journey is more important than the destination-that's part of > life. If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always > disappointed." -Donald Knuth > From rickkelly@gmail.com Mon Sep 25 06:32:13 2006 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:32:13 -0400 Subject: Delays on live coverage In-Reply-To: <5266b052d66d5b71245969ec5d976de2@charter.net> References: <5266b052d66d5b71245969ec5d976de2@charter.net> Message-ID: <521b7fd10609250332i1eb75623ve3e1ec6ee3581319@mail.gmail.com> On 9/25/06, David Tomm wrote: > It's not just HD that causes delays. Where I am, I can listen to Red > Sox day games on three different stations, WEEI, WTAG and WEEI-FM. All > of them have different length delays. I listen to WEEI when I'm at a game at Fenway, and I have never detected any delay. -- -Rick Kelly northeastairchecks.com From lglavin@mail.com Mon Sep 25 19:25:54 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:25:54 -0500 Subject: Jay Severin Returning To Boston? Message-ID: <20060925232555.32136478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Radio and Records' website (www.radioandrecords.com) has a headline that Jay Severin's national show is out, and Jay will be returning to WTKK's frequency (but not its studios) from 3:00 pm thru 7:00 pm as in days of yore. I HAVE NOT SEEN VERIFICATION OF THIS STORY ANYWHERE ELSE. Would michael Grahamcracker thus find himself out of the market, or trading places with Severin's "former" time slot? The whole switchover is supposed to happen October 9th. Alert Scott Lehigh at the Globe. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Sep 25 19:18:58 2006 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:18:58 -0400 Subject: Radio & TV signals threatened by wind farm? Message-ID: <000901c6e0f8$fa58e980$3c9e05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Maine Public Radio had an interesting story tonight about the impact that a wind farm on Mars Hill in Aroostook County, Maine could have a significant negative impact on the signal of WAGM-TV and Maine Public Radio's station, which are also located on Mars Hill. I know nothing about the science, but was surprised to hear this come up now. This project has been on the drawing board for several years and has all the necessary approvals. Is there anything to the concerns? A link to the story is below. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine Opposition Grows To Windmills It's not just bird-lovers who are concerned about 28 giant windmills proposed for Mars Hill. Television viewers, cell phone users and internet enthusiasts who lie within the turbines' electronic shadow may see a disruption in service -- and the companies that provide those services are upset. Fred Bever reports. http://www.mpbn.net/radio/stories.html From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Thu Sep 21 15:30:46 2006 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The Station nightclub plea deal In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0609211130n61b3d2e1kf8fd76b0fab3aa8e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060921193046.27881.qmail@web58314.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Bob Nelson wrote: > OK, maybe we can back off the political talk. Maybe? We should. Let's remember that 97 people not-connected-to-broadcasting folks also died, in addition to the three mentioned earlier. I hope their deaths don't go in vain, like apparently happened to the Coconut Grove victims 61 years later. That said, I feel bad for Jeff Derderian to a limited extent. I don't know exactly how hands-on he was in any decisions involved in the club, since he was kind of busy with a successful broadcast career. The guy's career now is toast, and I doubt anywhere east of the Rockies or north of the Mason-Dixon would hire the guy and let him get back to what he was doing -- doing well enough that he was able to walk away from a top-10 TV market on his own terms, not the station's. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Sep 22 01:36:15 2006 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 01:36:15 -0400 Subject: Herald: Where have you gone Air America In-Reply-To: <19222105.1158821139233.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <45133E0F.14453.529C1E@localhost> On 21 Sep 2006 at 2:45, Eli Polonsky wrote: > In addition to the intermodulation factor with also nearby WWZN that > Dan mentioned, the other possible reason would be in your radio. If > you have a modern digital car tuner, many of them have an automatic > attenuation circuit that reduces sensitivity when it receives > extremely strong signals, such as when driving nearby transmitters. Interestingly enough, when I drove to Lexington today, I didn't have any problem as I drove by the towers on Route 2, but somewhere on Waltham Street, just after I got off Route 2, there was a subdued hash on 1430, no problem on 1200. Later, as I got closer to Route 2, there was some hash on 1200 for a short distance, but 1430 had cleared. It was nowhere near as bad as it was in the past. -- This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the undersigned immediately and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you. A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From kenwvt@gmail.com Mon Sep 25 08:11:16 2006 From: kenwvt@gmail.com (Ken VanTassell) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:11:16 -0400 Subject: Pirate radio stations challenge feds Message-ID: <647737520609250511w3c706a5cha4715d62950e821@mail.gmail.com> "It's always been our position that if enough people go on the air with their stations, the FCC will be overwhelmed and unable to respond," he says. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060924/ap_on_bi_ge/pirate_radio;_ylt=AtVLuQIEprUq1HWChcaBhsKs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3cjE0b2MwBHNlYwM3Mzg- From nostaticatall@charter.net Mon Sep 25 22:44:55 2006 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:44:55 -0400 Subject: Arbitron to list non-comm stations Message-ID: <12f3da0abcf31191ef031b3b7b46a006@charter.net> All Access and Inside Radio both have stories about Arbitron's intentions to list NPR affiliates and other non-commercial stations in their ratings information released to the media, starting with this fall's book. The data has been available to subscribers for a long time, but now the rest of us can see how these stations do overall. It's been said that WBUR has 12+ ratings similar to WMJX here in Boston. While it won't change how airtime is bought or sold, it will be interesting to track how WBUR does against it's talk-based competition such as WBZ, WTKK, WRKO and WKOX/WXKS book to book. Arbitron also shelved a plan to track satellite and internet radio listening as part of the local book at least for now. Eventually we may see XM and Sirius channels (Howard Stern, Opie and Anthony, etc) along with popular internet streams place along side local terrestrial signals. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Sep 26 05:05:28 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 05:05:28 -0400 Subject: Jay Severin Returning To Boston? In-Reply-To: <20060925232555.32136478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060925232555.32136478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609260205h36846f2fk2e06732c8e99ce22@mail.gmail.com> >>On 9/25/06, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Radio and Records' website (www.radioandrecords.com) has a headline > that Jay Severin's national show is out, and Jay will be returning to > WTKK's frequency (but not its studios) from 3:00 pm thru 7:00 pm Boston Radio Watch has the story: http://www.bostonradiowatch.com So...does this mean the national gig with CBS flopped? GM putting a shine on a sneaker, methinks. Sure, he's back in Boston but the national show apparently was less than a year. But maybe that was a tough time slot (vs. Savage in a lot of places). He only got a few affiliates, I believe (Detroit, Philly, St Louis) Or will he do 7 hours a day, first Boston then national? Naahhhhhhhhh. >>In addition, the talk show personality has announced that he will be relocating to the Boston area. The obscure hamlet of Sag Harbor, Massachusetts... From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Tue Sep 26 12:08:26 2006 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:08:26 -0400 Subject: And from Cape Cod..... Message-ID: <001101c6e186$00121490$a7483518@DG07P241> ...an article in Monday's CCTimes about the discouraging lack of local coverage by our radio stations. I couldn't find the article on capecodonline but have it. An excerpt: "Politicos and constituents alike were disappointed Tuesday night if they turned to local radio stations for primary election results. No station carried them." Paul Sandwich Cape Cod From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Tue Sep 26 13:27:06 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:27:06 -0400 Subject: Jay Severin Returning To Boston? References: <20060925232555.32136478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> <1fbbbced0609260205h36846f2fk2e06732c8e99ce22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <015c01c6e191$03036720$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > >>On 9/25/06, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > Radio and Records' website (www.radioandrecords.com) has a headline > > that Jay Severin's national show is out, and Jay will be returning to > > WTKK's frequency (but not its studios) from 3:00 pm thru 7:00 pm > > Boston Radio Watch has the story: > > http://www.bostonradiowatch.com Ah, yes, another talent returns from the world of syndication with their tail between their legs. Didn't this same thing happen to Gene Burns? Here's my take on the situation.... Severin's deal with CBS was for a 1 year trial run. (As soon as you start, that one year comes up very quickly!) So, Severin and his agent start looking for alternatives, and counter offers. CBS is in a belt tightening, cost cutting, station selling mode right now. WTKK is an obvious place to reach out. WTKK makes a fabulous offer as their influence in the market(and revenue) has fallen off the chart since he left. For Severin, WTKK looks like a more stable long-term plan than going 'year to year' with CBS. Severin doesn't like working nights. ;-) So, what locale in Massachusetts will replace his palacial home in Sag Harbor? Any guesses? If he's used to being on the water...maybe somewhere on the Cape? Just my $.02 From nostaticatall@charter.net Tue Sep 26 13:38:07 2006 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:38:07 -0400 Subject: Jay Severin Returning To Boston? In-Reply-To: <015c01c6e191$03036720$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20060925232555.32136478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> <1fbbbced0609260205h36846f2fk2e06732c8e99ce22@mail.gmail.com> <015c01c6e191$03036720$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <17562f6e8578d5ab2294d926eded0bde@charter.net> Manchester-by-the-Sea would be nice. Maybe he could buy Brad Bleit's old digs..... Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Sep 26, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Don A. wrote: > So, what locale in Massachusetts will replace his palacial home in Sag > Harbor? > > Any guesses? > > If he's used to being on the water...maybe somewhere on the Cape? > From lglavin@mail.com Tue Sep 26 15:25:40 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:25:40 -0500 Subject: Jay Severin Returning To Boston? Message-ID: <20060926192540.E8FDC1158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul Hopfgarten" >To: "'Bob Nelson'" , "'Laurence Glavin'" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: RE: Jay Severin Returning To Boston? >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 06:40:10 -0400 >Maybe it's because Severin was MIA far too often! I don't think you should >take 'time off' during the 'building phase' of a show, and 1 year is >certainly still the building phase. >> In addition, the talk show personality has announced that he will be relocating to the Boston area. >The obscure hamlet of Sag Harbor, Massachusetts... The Globe mentioned a "North Shore community"... remember, he needs reasonably convenient access to Boston and the North Shore doesn't have the equivalent of Route 93. Cape Ann may be near the water but it's not easy to get to the hub from there, Manchestah-By-The-Sea is not much better. I've got it: ROWLEY! I know of one Boston media figure who commutes from there regularly. Oh...one other thing; the Globe also stated that Barnicle's future may be in doubt...mailed it in too many times? -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com From lglavin@mail.com Tue Sep 26 15:34:06 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:34:06 -0500 Subject: And from Cape Cod..... Message-ID: <20060926193410.082761158CD@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul B. Currier" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: And from Cape Cod..... >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:08:26 -0400 >...an article in Monday's CCTimes about the discouraging lack of local >coverage by our radio stations. I couldn't find the article on >capecodonline but have it. An excerpt: >"Politicos and constituents alike were disappointed Tuesday night if they >turned to local radio stations for primary election results. No station >carried them." Ok, cue the harp-glissando sound-effect: Remember the controvery about a year-and-a-half ago when there was a train derailment in Minot, ND and no station there was broadcasting locally at the time to deliver the news that some toxic material may have been emitted? 'Twas ever thus...or since the Telecommunications act. Paul Sandwich Cape Cod -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com From sid@wrko.com Tue Sep 26 16:02:00 2006 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:02:00 -0600 Subject: And from Cape Cod..... Message-ID: >>Remember the controvery about a year-and-a-half ago when there was a train derailment in Minot, ND and no station there was broadcasting locally at the time to deliver the news that some toxic material may have been emitted?<< That is NOT what happened. I am no apologist for Clear Channel, but it seems that everytime something like this comes up, the same urban legend gets repeated and repeated until CC becomes the devil incarnate. The CC station serving Minot WAS staffed that night, and could have alerted the surrounding area with EAS within seconds, had someone notified them. No one in any official capacity called them. That's right, *no one.* (I use the term "official capacity" because such an alert is serious business. You don't activate EAS on the word of just anyone.) You can blame CC for a lot of things, but that's not one of them. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Tue Sep 26 17:29:46 2006 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:29:46 -0400 Subject: And from Cape Cod..... References: <20060926193410.082761158CD@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <001301c6e1b2$e38e9b40$a7483518@DG07P241> Huh? What has an accident (unpredictable) to do with an election (quite well known in advance)???? Paul Sandwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Paul B. Currier" ; Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: Re: And from Cape Cod..... >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul B. Currier" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: And from Cape Cod..... >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:08:26 -0400 >...an article in Monday's CCTimes about the discouraging lack of local >coverage by our radio stations. I couldn't find the article on >capecodonline but have it. An excerpt: >"Politicos and constituents alike were disappointed Tuesday night if they >turned to local radio stations for primary election results. No station >carried them." Ok, cue the harp-glissando sound-effect: Remember the controvery about a year-and-a-half ago when there was a train derailment in Minot, ND and no station there was broadcasting locally at the time to deliver the news that some toxic material may have been emitted? 'Twas ever thus...or since the Telecommunications act. Paul Sandwich Cape Cod -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com From lglavin@mail.com Tue Sep 26 15:30:39 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:30:39 -0500 Subject: Arbitron to list non-comm stations Message-ID: <20060926193040.B3BB11158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Tomm" >To: "Boston List Radio Mailing" >Subject: Arbitron to list non-comm stations >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:44:55 -0400 >All Access and Inside Radio both have stories about Arbitron's >intentions to list NPR affiliates and other non-commercial stations >in their ratings information released to the media, starting with >this fall's book. The data has been available to subscribers for a >long time, but now the rest of us can see how these stations do >overall. It's been said that WBUR has 12+ ratings similar to WMJX >here in Boston. While it won't change how airtime is bought or >sold, it will be interesting to track how WBUR does against it's >talk-based competition such as WBZ, WTKK, WRKO and WKOX/WXKS book >to book >Dave Tomm > >"Mike Thomas" A post to the NYC Radio message board suggested that inclusion of NPR stations to the regular ratings could push some commercial outlets out of the Top 10 in their respective markets, a somewhat meaningless marker really, but some people are spooked by numbers (ask the residents of Gallup, NM who got Route 666's number changed by the Department of Trensportation). -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com From sid@wrko.com Tue Sep 26 20:38:54 2006 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:38:54 -0600 Subject: Arbitron to list non-comm stations Message-ID: >>A post to the NYC Radio message board suggested that inclusion of NPR stations to the regular ratings could push some commercial outlets out of the Top 10 in their respective markets, a somewhat meaningless marker really, but some people are spooked by numbers (ask the residents of Gallup, NM who got Route 666's number changed by the Department of Trensportation).<< No. It's a COMPLETELY meaningless marker. Nothing changes except the 12+ beauty contest which is released to the press, which practically no one inside the radio business cares about. Non-comms have been showing up in the Maximi$er and Tapscan software for a long time, and are about to start showing up in the printed book which is being made available online to Arbitron subscribers for the first time. The only people likely to be "spooked by numbers" are those who didn't already know, for example, that a certain university-owned non-comm FM is a top-5 station in morning drive. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Sep 27 02:38:03 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:38:03 -0400 Subject: Jay Severin Returning To Boston? In-Reply-To: <20060926192540.E8FDC1158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060926192540.E8FDC1158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609262338s25203f8gc6ebd0c31058746a@mail.gmail.com> >>"North Shore community"... Isn't Sag Harbor on the North Shore of Long Island? :) From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Sep 27 12:09:29 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:09:29 -0400 Subject: Jay Severin Returning To Boston? In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0609262338s25203f8gc6ebd0c31058746a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060926192540.E8FDC1158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> <1fbbbced0609262338s25203f8gc6ebd0c31058746a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 2:38 AM -0400 9/27/06, Bob Nelson wrote: >>>"North Shore community"... > >Isn't Sag Harbor on the North Shore of Long Island? :) No, it's on the South Fork. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Sep 27 13:19:15 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:19:15 -0400 Subject: Jay Severin Returning To Boston? In-Reply-To: References: <20060926192540.E8FDC1158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> <1fbbbced0609262338s25203f8gc6ebd0c31058746a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0609271019x58638633m9d8b14214c2e82c2@mail.gmail.com> Ah :) Would be funny if it were on the North Shore--then he could get away with saying he "lived on the North Shore" :) On 9/27/06, Larry Weil wrote: > At 2:38 AM -0400 9/27/06, Bob Nelson wrote: > >>>"North Shore community"... > > > >Isn't Sag Harbor on the North Shore of Long Island? :) > > No, it's on the South Fork. From hinsdalien@yahoo.com Fri Sep 29 07:17:11 2006 From: hinsdalien@yahoo.com (Doug Bassett) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Jay Severin Returning To Boston? In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0609271019x58638633m9d8b14214c2e82c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060929111711.34644.qmail@web31811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Looking at a map, Sag Harbor seems to be on the North Shore of the South Fork. :) http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.996603,-72.29219&spn=0.11,0.18&t=h Whether locals (other than Severin) actually refer to it as such, I have no idea. --- Bob Nelson wrote: > Ah :) Would be funny if it were on the North > Shore--then he could get > away with saying he > "lived on the North Shore" :) > > On 9/27/06, Larry Weil wrote: > > At 2:38 AM -0400 9/27/06, Bob Nelson wrote: > > >>>"North Shore community"... > > > > > >Isn't Sag Harbor on the North Shore of Long > Island? :) > > > > No, it's on the South Fork. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lglavin@mail.com Sat Sep 30 13:42:17 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 12:42:17 -0500 Subject: Indecipherable Football Game On WBOQ Message-ID: <20060930174217.A2B95164278@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> At this very moment, 1:35 pm EDST Saturday Sept 30th, WBOQ-FM,COL Gloucester, MA is broadcasting a football game. I was just fooling around checking the FM dial when I happened upon it, and noticed one thing: the distortion level is off-the-charts! I couldn't tell you the names of the teams, the score (not that I care) nor could I make out anything the announcers (who sound like the Young Turks on AirAmerica BTW) are saying. Thanks to the clarity of FM, the drums sound like the coda to the finale of the Shostakovich Fifth Symphony (didn't Jerry Williams once say "those drums are driving me mad"?). Bob Bittner used to opine that the football games on Saturday afternoons probably only reached the family members of the players, some alumni and the advertisers; all of them must be confused today. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com From hykker@grolen.com Sat Sep 30 16:33:36 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:33:36 -0400 Subject: Indecipherable Football Game On WBOQ In-Reply-To: <20060930174217.A2B95164278@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060930174217.A2B95164278@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20060930163000.01b6a680@pop3.grolen.com> At 01:42 PM 9/30/2006, Laurence Glavin wrote: >At this very moment, 1:35 pm EDST Saturday Sept 30th, WBOQ-FM,COL >Gloucester, MA >is broadcasting a football game. I was just fooling around checking the >FM dial >when I happened upon it, and noticed one thing: the distortion level is >off-the-charts! I couldn't tell you the names of the teams, the score >(not that I care) nor could I make out anything the announcers (who >sound like the Young Turks on AirAmerica BTW) are saying. Thanks to >the clarity of FM, the drums sound like the coda to the finale of the >Shostakovich Fifth Symphony (didn't Jerry Williams once say "those >drums are driving me mad"?). Bob Bittner used to opine that the football >games on Saturday afternoons probably only reached the family members >of the players, some alumni and the advertisers; all of them must be confused >today. I once worked at a station where the PBP guy (in this case it was high school basketball) was deaf as a stump & cranked the output of the mixer at the gym to the max so he could hear himself. Of course, he was also overdriving the Marti or phone hybrid by doing so. Maybe that's what was happening here. From paul@derrynh.net Tue Sep 26 06:40:10 2006 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 06:40:10 -0400 Subject: Jay Severin Returning To Boston? In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0609260205h36846f2fk2e06732c8e99ce22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00d501c6e158$24142730$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> Maybe it's because Severin was MIA far too often! I don't think you should take 'time off' during the 'building phase' of a show, and 1 year is certainly still the building phase. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:05 AM To: Laurence Glavin; boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org; raccoonradio@gmail.com Subject: Re: Jay Severin Returning To Boston? >>On 9/25/06, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Radio and Records' website (www.radioandrecords.com) has a headline > that Jay Severin's national show is out, and Jay will be returning to > WTKK's frequency (but not its studios) from 3:00 pm thru 7:00 pm Boston Radio Watch has the story: http://www.bostonradiowatch.com So...does this mean the national gig with CBS flopped? GM putting a shine on a sneaker, methinks. Sure, he's back in Boston but the national show apparently was less than a year. But maybe that was a tough time slot (vs. Savage in a lot of places). He only got a few affiliates, I believe (Detroit, Philly, St Louis) Or will he do 7 hours a day, first Boston then national? Naahhhhhhhhh. >>In addition, the talk show personality has announced that he will be relocating to the Boston area. The obscure hamlet of Sag Harbor, Massachusetts... From readaaron@friedbagels.com Wed Sep 27 12:15:14 2006 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:15:14 -0400 Subject: And from Cape Cod..... Message-ID: <451AA392.7060802@friedbagels.com> ...an article in Monday's CCTimes about the discouraging lack of local coverage by our radio stations. I couldn't find the article on capecodonline but have it. An excerpt: "Politicos and constituents alike were disappointed Tuesday night if they turned to local radio stations for primary election results. No station carried them." Paul Sandwich Cape Cod ------------------- Wha...? I wasn't listening that evening, but I find it hard to believe that WBUR wasn't carrying election results. Their 1240AM signal from West Yarmouth covers most of the Cape & Islands pretty well. I would think WCAI/WNAN/WZAI would say something about them as well. -- -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com www.friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02246 Fried Bagels - Broadcast Radio & Web Engineering & Operations Consultant From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Sep 2 12:38:26 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 12:38:26 -0400 Subject: Andelman brothers bring Phantom Gourmet to WTKK In-Reply-To: <460552C2.7030209@billoneill.us> References: <20070324073251.C392A49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <44F97B42.31345.3E9868@localhost> On 24 Mar 2007 at 12:33, Bill O'Neill wrote: > City Hall Plaza needs more than sand. Try jack hammers. And some > creativity. I'd say it needs some greenery. -- A. 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