From stephanie@gordsven.com Thu Jun 1 10:07:42 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:07:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Spring Arbs Shockers - Now the Future of AM In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20060529215842.01be0f58@pop3.grolen.com> References: <001c01c681f2$b592bfc0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <200605291927.k4TJRG6R082335@rolinin.bostonradio.org> <6.0.3.0.0.20060529215842.01be0f58@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <49821.12.37.144.130.1149170862.squirrel@12.37.144.130> On Mon, May 29, 2006 22:00, SteveOrdinetz said: > What exactly is "talk radio for women"? Most women I know dislike even > the concept of talk radio. Psychologist Dr. Joy Brown, for instance? A lot of her callers seem to be women. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From charlieprofit@cabradio.com Thu Jun 1 13:23:19 2006 From: charlieprofit@cabradio.com (Charlie Profit) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:23:19 -0400 Subject: Talk for Women (was: Spring Arbs Shockers - Now the Future of AM) In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20060529215842.01be0f58@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <200606011723.k51HNF45016360@rolinin.bostonradio.org> Women love Talk, they love gossip...it's the Political Talk they don't like. There is a new brand of Talk now, and it's female oriented talk. It's converstational, not confrontational. Opinions are shared, but not with an "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude that most talk hosts have. Health shows, advice shows fit into this category. There have been talk "shows" geared toward women, but only recently have a handful of stations taken the entire line up and focused it on women. I'm more than happy to discuss more off line. Charlie Profit General Manager WXCT AM 990 Talk Radio for Women 440 Old Turnpike Rd Plantsville, CT 06479 (860)621-1754 office (860)426-8007 fax www.talkradio99.com -----Original Message----- From: SteveOrdinetz [mailto:hykker@grolen.com] Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 10:00 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: RE: Spring Arbs Shockers - Now the Future of AM Charlie Profit wrote: >If you have a struggling AM station and are looking for a new format >for your station that attracts advertisers as well as listeners...There >are resources to tap into your market to make the Talk Radio for Women >format successful. What exactly is "talk radio for women"? Most women I know dislike even the concept of talk radio. From stephanie@gordsven.com Thu Jun 1 14:27:58 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Talk for Women In-Reply-To: <200606011723.k51HNF45016360@rolinin.bostonradio.org> References: <6.0.3.0.0.20060529215842.01be0f58@pop3.grolen.com> <200606011723.k51HNF45016360@rolinin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: <24948.12.37.144.130.1149186478.squirrel@12.37.144.130> On Thu, June 1, 2006 13:23, Charlie Profit said: > There is a new brand of Talk now, and it's female oriented talk. It's > converstational, not confrontational. Opinions are shared, but not with an > "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude that most talk hosts have. You say that, and your radio station carries Laura Schlessinger's show? Now that bitch is one confrontational piece of work! Joy Browne would probably fit the attempted format better....but that's probably just me. Now go out and take on the day. :) -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From nostaticatall@comcast.net Thu Jun 1 16:43:59 2006 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:43:59 -0400 Subject: Talk for Women In-Reply-To: <24948.12.37.144.130.1149186478.squirrel@12.37.144.130> References: <6.0.3.0.0.20060529215842.01be0f58@pop3.grolen.com> <200606011723.k51HNF45016360@rolinin.bostonradio.org> <24948.12.37.144.130.1149186478.squirrel@12.37.144.130> Message-ID: <326f1f02d5c42e31ac819693d0342853@comcast.net> There's a couple of different approaches to this new breed of "female talk." One is the more traditional direction without the politics like Charlie's station is running. That would include shows like Dr. Laura, Joy Browne, Satellite Sisters, etc. There's also a more "entertainment" style which is led by morning show type programs that target women, but airing them all day long. A perfect example of this is the programming on WLNK/Charlotte, NC. They are the flagship station for the syndicated Bob & Sheri morning show, but air other similar shows throughout the day. This station recently brought in WFLY/Albany's morning show, Candy and Potter, and put them on middays. Another show along the same lines, Matt and Ramona, airs in PM drive there. Each of these programs play maybe three or four songs an hour and the rest is female oriented talk content. Despite relatively low 12+ numbers, WLNK is one of the highest billing stations in that market, and do very well with 25-54 women--a prime sales demographic. Other Hot AC's and even a few CHR's around the country are beginning to experiment with the "morning show" approach outside of morning drive as well. Not only are we seeing this with female talk, it's also emerging in Urban radio as well. Many stations are running Wendy Williams or Michael Baisden in afternoon drive. These shows are similar in structure to what's airing on WLNK--just a few songs an hour with plenty of talk targeted to the 25-44 or 25-54 demographic. Some urban stations, like KKBT/Los Angeles, are airing these types of shows in all dayparts. Stations are starting to figure out that content is king and that jukebox radio ultimately fails in the long run. But most of us on this list already knew that... --Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Jun 1, 2006, at 2:27 PM, Stephanie Weil wrote: > > On Thu, June 1, 2006 13:23, Charlie Profit said: > >> There is a new brand of Talk now, and it's female oriented talk. It's >> converstational, not confrontational. Opinions are shared, but not >> with an >> "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude that most talk hosts have. > > You say that, and your radio station carries Laura Schlessinger's show? > > Now that bitch is one confrontational piece of work! > > Joy Browne would probably fit the attempted format better....but that's > probably just me. > > Now go out and take on the day. :) > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City, NY, USA > From stephanie@gordsven.com Thu Jun 1 17:44:42 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 17:44:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Talk for Women In-Reply-To: <200606012111.k51LBNIj010695@home3.gordsven.com> References: <24948.12.37.144.130.1149186478.squirrel@12.37.144.130> <200606012111.k51LBNIj010695@home3.gordsven.com> Message-ID: <51634.12.37.144.130.1149198282.squirrel@12.37.144.130> On Thu, June 1, 2006 17:11, Charlie Profit said: > Actually, Dr. Laura has "re-imaged" herself. She is not as > 'confrontational' as she used to be. I will have to.... Haven't heard her in a while...but I do remember her being a real righteous bastard towards people who phoned in her show. Gave me the shimmies. Wonder if she was told to mellow out after she lost her TV show. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From charlieprofit@cabradio.com Thu Jun 1 17:11:18 2006 From: charlieprofit@cabradio.com (Charlie Profit) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 17:11:18 -0400 Subject: Talk for Women In-Reply-To: <24948.12.37.144.130.1149186478.squirrel@12.37.144.130> Message-ID: <200606012111.k51LBFgW017558@rolinin.bostonradio.org> Actually, Dr. Laura has "re-imaged" herself. She is not as 'confrontational' as she used to be. Take a listen (an objective one), you'll be surprized. She is still opinionated, but she is more helpful and less critical of the callers. Charlie Profit -----Original Message----- From: Stephanie Weil [mailto:stephanie@gordsven.com] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:28 PM To: charlieprofit@cabradio.com Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Talk for Women On Thu, June 1, 2006 13:23, Charlie Profit said: > There is a new brand of Talk now, and it's female oriented talk. It's > converstational, not confrontational. Opinions are shared, but not > with an "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude that most talk hosts have. You say that, and your radio station carries Laura Schlessinger's show? Now that bitch is one confrontational piece of work! Joy Browne would probably fit the attempted format better....but that's probably just me. Now go out and take on the day. :) -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Jun 2 01:17:53 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 01:17:53 -0400 Subject: Spring Arbs Shockers - Now the Future of AM In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20060529215842.01be0f58@pop3.grolen.com> References: <200605291927.k4TJRG6R082335@rolinin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: <447F91C1.15681.530A5B@localhost> On 29 May 2006 at 22:00, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > What exactly is "talk radio for women"? Most women I know dislike > even the concept of talk radio. Well, I know at least one who listens regularly to Air America. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From xtrovato@yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 02:30:12 2006 From: xtrovato@yahoo.com (R Trovato) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 02:30:12 -0400 Subject: Talk for Women References: <24948.12.37.144.130.1149186478.squirrel@12.37.144.130><200606012111.k51LBNIj010695@home3.gordsven.com> <51634.12.37.144.130.1149198282.squirrel@12.37.144.130> Message-ID: <01c901c6860e$175be3c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephanie Weil" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:44 PM Subject: RE: Talk for Women > > On Thu, June 1, 2006 17:11, Charlie Profit said: > > > Actually, Dr. Laura has "re-imaged" herself. She is not as > > 'confrontational' as she used to be. Hmmmm...I've been hearing her late-night on WTTT while in the car. She *still* sounds as confrontational and condescending to me! I don't think she's changed at all. However, I haven't heard her take any calls about gay issues. >From what I recall, they gay issues are what got her into trouble in the first place....and probably doomed her television program. You might recall activists who set up this site: http://www.stopdrlaura.com/ I wonder if she steers clear of those topics. Funny....she was once on all the major talkers in all the big markets. Now she appears to be on the "second tier" of talkers...and mostly in small markets. XT From nostaticatall@comcast.net Fri Jun 2 11:23:20 2006 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:23:20 -0400 Subject: Talk for Women In-Reply-To: <01c901c6860e$175be3c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <24948.12.37.144.130.1149186478.squirrel@12.37.144.130><200606012111.k51LBNIj010695@home3.gordsven.com> <51634.12.37.144.130.1149198282.squirrel@12.37.144.130> <01c901c6860e$175be3c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <39d71b9d0e48cf291c4e2c37eaa84efd@comcast.net> Her career really took a nosedive after the whole gay controversy. She wound up getting dropped by Premiere Radio Networks, which forced her to rebuild her affiliate list from scratch. She's essentially distributing the show herself nowadays. Her anti-tolerant views are welcomed at Salem stations so she tends to pop up on those, along with second-tier talkers who are looking for a "name" to put up against the right wing heavy hitters that get the clearances on the big talkers. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:30 AM, R Trovato wrote: >> From what I recall, they gay issues are what got her into trouble in >> the > first place....and probably doomed her television program. > > You might recall activists who set up this site: > > http://www.stopdrlaura.com/ > > I wonder if she steers clear of those topics. > > Funny....she was once on all the major talkers in all the big markets. > Now > she appears to be on the "second tier" of talkers...and mostly in small > markets. > > XT > From xtrovato@yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 12:15:25 2006 From: xtrovato@yahoo.com (R Trovato) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:15:25 -0400 Subject: Talk for Women References: <24948.12.37.144.130.1149186478.squirrel@12.37.144.130><200606012111.k51LBNIj010695@home3.gordsven.com><51634.12.37.144.130.1149198282.squirrel@12.37.144.130><01c901c6860e$175be3c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <39d71b9d0e48cf291c4e2c37eaa84efd@comcast.net> Message-ID: <017f01c6865f$c5578460$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > Her career really took a nosedive after the whole gay controversy. She > wound up getting dropped by Premiere Radio Networks... Premiere still has her listed on their web site: http://www.premiereradio.com/shows/view/dr_laura.html From stephanie@gordsven.com Fri Jun 2 13:25:47 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:25:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Talk for Women In-Reply-To: <017f01c6865f$c5578460$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <24948.12.37.144.130.1149186478.squirrel@12.37.144.130><200606012111.k51LBNIj010695@home3.gordsven.com><51634.12.37.144.130.1149198282.squirrel@12.37.144.130><01c901c6860e$175be3c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <39d71b9d0e48cf291c4e2c37eaa84efd@comcast.net> <017f01c6865f$c5578460$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <19209.12.37.144.130.1149269147.squirrel@12.37.144.130> On Fri, June 2, 2006 12:15, R Trovato said: > http://www.premiereradio.com/shows/view/dr_laura.html They really should update that picture. Schlessinger looks less like a spring chicken and more like a turkey on a hunger strike. http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Video/060104/tdy_couric_drlaura_060104.300w.jpg -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From nostaticatall@comcast.net Fri Jun 2 15:14:22 2006 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:14:22 -0400 Subject: Talk for Women In-Reply-To: <017f01c6865f$c5578460$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <24948.12.37.144.130.1149186478.squirrel@12.37.144.130><200606012111.k51LBNIj010695@home3.gordsven.com><51634.12.37.144.130.1149198282.squirrel@12.37.144.130><01c901c6860e$175be3c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <39d71b9d0e48cf291c4e2c37eaa84efd@comcast.net> <017f01c6865f$c5578460$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <3edf5032885f9b3001f5e4a5206c1823@comcast.net> However, affiliate relations (i.e. clearances) are handled by "Take On The Day" Radio, a company run by her and a couple of investors. Premiere handles some sales and the physical distribution of the show, for which Take On The Day reimburses them. The fact that Premiere is not handling affiliate relations has a lot to do with why her show is now heard on smaller, weaker talk signals. On Jun 2, 2006, at 12:15 PM, R Trovato wrote: >> Her career really took a nosedive after the whole gay controversy. >> She >> wound up getting dropped by Premiere Radio Networks... > > Premiere still has her listed on their web site: > > http://www.premiereradio.com/shows/view/dr_laura.html > From xtrovato@yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 15:57:42 2006 From: xtrovato@yahoo.com (R Trovato) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:57:42 -0400 Subject: Talk for Women References: <24948.12.37.144.130.1149186478.squirrel@12.37.144.130><200606012111.k51LBNIj010695@home3.gordsven.com><51634.12.37.144.130.1149198282.squirrel@12.37.144.130><01c901c6860e$175be3c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net><39d71b9d0e48cf291c4e2c37eaa84efd@comcast.net><017f01c6865f$c5578460$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <3edf5032885f9b3001f5e4a5206c1823@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0ac701c6867e$d19bfca0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > However, affiliate relations (i.e. clearances) are handled by "Take On > The Day" Radio, a company run by her and a couple of investors. > Premiere handles some sales and the physical distribution of the show, > for which Take On The Day reimburses them. I don't know if this is because "Premiere dropped her"...or that she decided she wanted to own more of the show. Years back, Bruce Williams decided he wanted to "self-syndicate" and own his own show. (And was never heard from again!) ;-) From nostaticatall@comcast.net Fri Jun 2 16:41:23 2006 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:41:23 -0400 Subject: Talk for Women In-Reply-To: <0ac701c6867e$d19bfca0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <24948.12.37.144.130.1149186478.squirrel@12.37.144.130><200606012111.k51LBNIj010695@home3.gordsven.com><51634.12.37.144.130.1149198282.squirrel@12.37.144.130><01c901c6860e$175be3c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net><39d71b9d0e48cf291c4e2c37eaa84efd@comcast.net><017f01c6865f$c5578460$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <3edf5032885f9b3001f5e4a5206c1823@comcast.net> <0ac701c6867e$d19bfca0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: Premiere will occasionally drop programs they have a hard time finding affiliates for, but the shows will continue as long as someone pays them for distribution and sales representation. This happened to the show Rockline. It was dropped by Premiere but it has continued since host Bob Coburn owns the show. He does the affiliate legwork that Premiere used to do and pays them for the studio space, satellite usage fees and commission for any sales the network generates for them. Take On The Day has a similar arrangement. IIRC, Premiere did indeed drop Dr Laura due to declining affiliates in the wake of her TV show being cancelled, but Take On The Day was formed to keep the show going. Now that "female talk" is becoming the next big thing, Dr. Laura is prominent on the Premiere website, even though they technically don't own the show anymore. On Jun 2, 2006, at 3:57 PM, R Trovato wrote: > > > >> However, affiliate relations (i.e. clearances) are handled by "Take On >> The Day" Radio, a company run by her and a couple of investors. >> Premiere handles some sales and the physical distribution of the show, >> for which Take On The Day reimburses them. > > I don't know if this is because "Premiere dropped her"...or that she > decided > she wanted to own more of the show. > > Years back, Bruce Williams decided he wanted to "self-syndicate" and > own his > own show. > > (And was never heard from again!) ;-) > From stephanie@gordsven.com Fri Jun 2 17:12:08 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Talk for Women In-Reply-To: <0ac701c6867e$d19bfca0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <24948.12.37.144.130.1149186478.squirrel@12.37.144.130><200606012111.k51LBNIj010695@home3.gordsven.com><51634.12.37.144.130.1149198282.squirrel@12.37.144.130><01c901c6860e$175be3c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net><39d71b9d0e48cf291c4e2c37eaa84efd@comcast.net><017f01c6865f$c5578460$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <3edf5032885f9b3001f5e4a5206c1823@comcast.net> <0ac701c6867e$d19bfca0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <18653.12.37.144.130.1149282728.squirrel@12.37.144.130> On Fri, June 2, 2006 15:57, R Trovato said: > > Years back, Bruce Williams decided he wanted to "self-syndicate" and own > his own show. > > (And was never heard from again!) ;-) I thought Williams was dropped from Mutual/Westwood One because his show wasn't doing well in the "right demos" - skewing too old or what not. And yes, I agree. What was once a very ubiquitous show is a shadow of what it once was. It's also kind of weird that I don't hear much of Jim Bohannon either. That's one show I do miss. It has been eclipsed by Coast-to-Coast AM. I remember when at night I would have a choice of five or six long-distance stations that I could dial in to listen to "JimBo". -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 13:21:10 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 13:21:10 -0400 Subject: Cost of installing HD? Message-ID: <013001c68732$387a6de0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> REcently, Dan mentioned that the cost of adding HD is an investment of "Hundreds of $K's"... It seems that HD would be a pretty simple install, no? Simply injecting the data streams into the signal. (That and the costs of licensing.) Can anyone verify what the cost is to a small to medium station to add HD capabilities? From wollman@csail.mit.edu Sat Jun 3 23:43:17 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 23:43:17 -0400 Subject: Cost of installing HD? In-Reply-To: <013001c68732$387a6de0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <013001c68732$387a6de0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <17538.22229.73448.910704@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > REcently, Dan mentioned that the cost of adding HD is an investment of > "Hundreds of $K's"... > It seems that HD would be a pretty simple install, no? Simply injecting the > data streams into the signal. (That and the costs of licensing.) > Can anyone verify what the cost is to a small to medium station to add HD > capabilities? It's very expensive. The minimum cost seems to be in the range of about $65,000, for a non-directional AM which already has an HD-ready transmitter. Consider what's required: For all stations: - An HD-compatible processor - An iBiquity-licensed exciter - An iNiquity-licensed "exporter" to encode the main program audio - An iBiquity-licensed "importer" for any NPAD and multicast audio - An HD-compatible transmitter (or integrated exciter/transmitter) - Monitoring infrastructure for the HD signal For AM stations: - A sufficiently-broadband antenna system to pass the HD sidebands (particularly for critical directional arrays) - A remote control to turn the HD off at sunset and back on at 6 AM For FM stations: - A new HD transmitter, combiner, and reject load, or - A linear power amplifier, or - A new HD or dual-input antenna The FMs are turning out to require substantially more investment than the AMs are, in a lot of cases, because of the requirement for linear amplification of the HD signal. Most high-power FM transmitters, like the Continental 816, operate non-linearly, because that mode is much more power-efficient. If for some reason a station is not able to install a new antenna (either HD-only or dual-input), perhaps because it's a shared antenna, or because of tower loading issues, or just a lack of space, then they are stuck with one of the combining options. High-level combining involves a separate transmitter just for HD (usually with a bit of the analogue signal as well); the two are combined, and about 10% of the power to the combiner is dumped in a reject load. In low-level combining, the exciter generates a combined FM and IBOC signal, which must then be linearly amplified at the transmitter; for high-power installations, this comes at a cost of about 30% (from 85% down to 55%) in conversion efficiency. Either way, more power and often more space are required in the transmitter room. -GAWollman From wayne@vacationdreams.org Sun Jun 4 09:53:57 2006 From: wayne@vacationdreams.org (Wayne Carter) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:53:57 -0400 Subject: Cost of installing HD? In-Reply-To: <013001c68732$387a6de0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <013001c68732$387a6de0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: A larger fm at 88.3 in Orlando, where 5 now live,, recently did fund raiser for $325,000 to cover installing HD equipment, setting up two new HD stations on the streams, and the promotional campaign for the stations. It can't be too expensive at all! W Carter >REcently, Dan mentioned that the cost of adding HD is an investment of >"Hundreds of $K's"... > >It seems that HD would be a pretty simple install, no? Simply injecting the >data streams into the signal. (That and the costs of licensing.) > >Can anyone verify what the cost is to a small to medium station to add HD >capabilities? -- ************************************************************************************************************* Ready for your Florida Disney vacation? 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From markwats@comcast.net Mon Jun 5 19:07:26 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 19:07:26 -0400 Subject: Austin Of Boston Has Passed Message-ID: <002a01c688f4$d43308f0$19b38018@Mark> Former Oldies 103.3 morning host Austin of Boston passed away Sunday June 4th. Austin (real name Malcolm Soll) also used the air name Austin Davis when he co-hosted mornings on WSRS Worcester after leaving WODS. Most recently, Austin had been doing some weekend & fill ins at WROR. He was only 56, much too young. May he rest in peace. Mark Watson From me@billoneill.us Mon Jun 5 19:33:10 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:33:10 -0400 Subject: Austin Of Boston Has Passed In-Reply-To: <002a01c688f4$d43308f0$19b38018@Mark> References: <002a01c688f4$d43308f0$19b38018@Mark> Message-ID: <4484BF36.3000908@billoneill.us> Mark Watson wrote: > Former Oldies 103.3 morning host Austin of Boston passed away Sunday > June 4th. My condolences to Austin's friends and family. Never met the man but always admired his on air presence. Consistent, great execution, and believable presence that works in drive time. RIP Bill O'Neill From paulranderson@charter.net Mon Jun 5 21:13:28 2006 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 21:13:28 -0400 Subject: Austin Of Boston Has Passed In-Reply-To: <002a01c688f4$d43308f0$19b38018@Mark> References: <002a01c688f4$d43308f0$19b38018@Mark> Message-ID: <3BCD19D1-1235-4ADC-8259-94D2A4785FA8@charter.net> On Jun 5, 2006, at 7:07 PM, Mark Watson wrote: > Former Oldies 103.3 morning host Austin of Boston passed away > Sunday June 4th. Austin (real name Malcolm Soll) also used the air > name Austin Davis when he co-hosted mornings on WSRS Worcester > after leaving WODS. Most recently, Austin had been doing some > weekend & fill ins at WROR. > > He was only 56, much too young. May he rest in peace. I worked with Malcolm at WTXL West Springfield in 1975, succeeding him as Program Director when he went back to Long Island. I was so used to him being Malcolm Davis, it was always odd hearing him as "Austin" in Boston and Worcester. I forgot his real last name, as he always used Malcolm Davis at WBAB Babylon NY too. Malcolm was one of the nicest guys I ever worked with. He was smart and knew what he was doing, yet had an easy-going personality that you couldn't help but like. I'm shocked he is gone. Does anyone know of funeral arrangements? Paul From markwats@comcast.net Mon Jun 5 21:39:00 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 21:39:00 -0400 Subject: Austin Of Boston Has Passed References: <002a01c688f4$d43308f0$19b38018@Mark> <3BCD19D1-1235-4ADC-8259-94D2A4785FA8@charter.net> Message-ID: <004f01c6890a$00a54ff0$19b38018@Mark> Paul Anderson wrote: > I'm shocked he is gone. Does anyone know of funeral >arrangements? Here is a link to the obituary from the funeral home handling the arrangements. This was sent to me by a friend of Malcom/Austin that reads our list: http://www.mataresefuneral.com/sitemaker/sites/matare0/obit.cgi?user=msoll Mark Watson From me@billoneill.us Mon Jun 5 22:05:53 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 22:05:53 -0400 Subject: Austin Of Boston Has Passed In-Reply-To: <004f01c6890a$00a54ff0$19b38018@Mark> References: <002a01c688f4$d43308f0$19b38018@Mark> <3BCD19D1-1235-4ADC-8259-94D2A4785FA8@charter.net> <004f01c6890a$00a54ff0$19b38018@Mark> Message-ID: <4484E301.50309@billoneill.us> Mark Watson wrote: > Here is a link to the obituary from the funeral home handling the > arrangements. The obit's last line is worth highlighting: "In lieu of flowers, the Soll family is requesting that gifts be directed to a scholarship fund for Mr. Soll's youngest son's education. Please send donations to: Malcolm Soll Scholarship Fund, TD Banknorth, 361 Pond Street, Ashland, MA, 01721." b - From rickkelly@gmail.com Mon Jun 5 22:44:32 2006 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 22:44:32 -0400 Subject: Austin Of Boston Has Passed In-Reply-To: <002a01c688f4$d43308f0$19b38018@Mark> References: <002a01c688f4$d43308f0$19b38018@Mark> Message-ID: <521b7fd10606051944j17c3800do5f9904de436e3fa8@mail.gmail.com> On 6/5/06, Mark Watson wrote: > Former Oldies 103.3 morning host Austin of Boston passed away Sunday June > 4th. Austin (real name Malcolm Soll) also used the air name Austin Davis > when he co-hosted mornings on WSRS Worcester after leaving WODS. Most > recently, Austin had been doing some weekend & fill ins at WROR. A truly nice guy. Before WODS went on (1986?), he was at WMRQ/103.3 - the format before oldies. I liked listening to WMRQ here in Springfield... they came in pretty well much of the time, and had an interesting and eclectic music mix. Like the rest of the dozen or so listeners WMRQ had, I was pretty shocked when they switched over to oldies. I called the station and Austin answered the phone. We talked for about 20 minutes about the change. He stated he had come to WMRQ from WLIR on Long Island, he really liked the eclectic format WMRQ had at the time and pondered his fate. It's a conversation I'll always remember because he was professional, personable and wasn't above talking to a listener on the phone. May he rest in peace. Rick Kelly From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed Jun 7 15:26:24 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 15:26:24 -0400 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong Message-ID: <200606071526.AA358089394@mail.ttlc.net> According to Mercury radio Research's sister company 'hear2.0' 74% of all terrestrial radio listeners are satisfied with what they hear. Thus destroying the myth we've been perpetuating that listeners are turning away fromradio in droves. This level of satisfaction is fairly consistent across all formats, age groups and genders. Teens, even. The only format below 70% was Classical at 68%. From scott@fybush.com Wed Jun 7 15:35:00 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:35:00 -0400 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong In-Reply-To: <200606071526.AA358089394@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200606071526.AA358089394@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <44872A64.9090406@fybush.com> rogerkirk wrote: > This level of satisfaction is fairly consistent across all formats, age groups and genders. Teens, even. The only format below 70% was Classical at 68%. They must have included Larry Glavin in their survey ;-) s From Joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 7 16:42:19 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:42:19 -0400 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong In-Reply-To: <200606071526.AA358089394@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <448701EB.30465.F2BB36@localhost> On 7 Jun 2006 rogerkirk wrote: > According to Mercury radio Research's sister company 'hear2.0' 74% of > all terrestrial radio listeners are satisfied with what they hear. > Thus destroying the myth we've been perpetuating that listeners are > turning away fromradio in droves. > > This level of satisfaction is fairly consistent across all formats, > age groups and genders. Teens, even. The only format below 70% was > Classical at 68%. This is a survey of terrestrial radio listeners, right? So obviously, the people who have tuned away in droves are no longer listeners. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Jun 7 17:26:37 2006 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:26:37 -0500 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong Message-ID: <20060607212638.28707CA0C2@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Fybush" > To: rogerkirk@ttlc.net > Subject: Re: Gues We Were All Wrong > Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:35:00 -0400 > > > rogerkirk wrote: > > > This level of satisfaction is fairly consistent across all > > formats, age groups and genders. Teens, even. The only format > > below 70% was Classical at 68%. > > They must have included Larry Glavin in their survey ;-) > > s If this was a "nationwide" survey, the number may be as high as it was because of the programming on the remaining public FM's that carry classical, plus the better classical stations run commercially such as WQXR, WFMT and KING-FM. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From sid@wrko.com Wed Jun 7 17:45:53 2006 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:45:53 -0600 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong Message-ID: >>According to Mercury radio Research's sister company 'hear2.0' 74% of all terrestrial radio listeners are satisfied with what they hear. Thus destroying the myth we've been perpetuating that listeners are turning away fromradio in droves. This level of satisfaction is fairly consistent across all formats, age groups and genders. Teens, even. The only format below 70% was Classical at 68%.<< They asked "terrestrial radio listeners," thus implying that they DIDN'T ask satellite radio listeners, Internet radio listeners, or those who have abandoned radio altogether. There's an old saying in Hollywood: It's pointless to make the shows better after the public has stopped coming to see them. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From wollman@csail.mit.edu Wed Jun 7 17:53:34 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 17:53:34 -0400 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17543.19166.170376.330687@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > They asked "terrestrial radio listeners," thus implying that they > DIDN'T ask satellite radio listeners, Internet radio listeners, or those > who have abandoned radio altogether. I believe I'm the only person in my immediate group at work (eight people aged 25-54) who listens to commercial radio. Probably all of us would hang up on Arbitron if they ever called to ask if we would keep a diary, and I don't think anyone would be wiling to carry a PPM either. (Maybe for $100; not for $1.) At least two of us, maybe more, don't have land-lines at all. -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 8 00:55:58 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 00:55:58 -0400 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong In-Reply-To: <17543.19166.170376.330687@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: Message-ID: <4487759E.24791.50C1DA@localhost> On 7 Jun 2006 at 17:53, Garrett Wollman wrote: > I believe I'm the only person in my immediate group at work (eight > people aged 25-54) who listens to commercial radio. Probably all of > us would hang up on Arbitron if they ever called to ask if we would > keep a diary, and I don't think anyone would be wiling to carry a PPM > either. (Maybe for $100; not for $1.) At least two of us, maybe > more, don't have land-lines at all. What's a PPM? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Jun 8 06:35:47 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 06:35:47 -0400 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong References: <4487759E.24791.50C1DA@localhost> Message-ID: <001901c68ae7$51df3960$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Well, for decades (generations? centuries?) PPM was the acronym for parts per million. But like so many acronyms, PPM has been usurped (in this case, by AC Neilson Co, IIRC). In this context, PPM stands for Purple People Meter, not to be confused with the Sheb Wooley hit novelty record from the 60s (or was it 50s?), "The Flying Purple-People Eater." (The hyphen is important. If you recall the lyric, althouth the PPE had but one eye and one toe, he wasn't himself purple--or at least he might not have been--he got his name because he consumed purple people.) -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Garrett Wollman" Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:55 AM Subject: Re: Gues We Were All Wrong > On 7 Jun 2006 at 17:53, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > I believe I'm the only person in my immediate group at work (eight > > people aged 25-54) who listens to commercial radio. Probably all of > > us would hang up on Arbitron if they ever called to ask if we would > > keep a diary, and I don't think anyone would be wiling to carry a PPM > > either. (Maybe for $100; not for $1.) At least two of us, maybe > > more, don't have land-lines at all. > > What's a PPM? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From hykker@grolen.com Thu Jun 8 07:04:16 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:04:16 -0400 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong In-Reply-To: <001901c68ae7$51df3960$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <4487759E.24791.50C1DA@localhost> <001901c68ae7$51df3960$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20060608070310.01b0bb98@pop3.grolen.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: >. In this context, PPM stands for Purple People >Meter, not to be confused with the Sheb Wooley hit novelty record from the >60s (or was it 50s?), "The Flying Purple-People Eater." I thought it was Pocket People Meter. From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Jun 8 08:09:57 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 08:09:57 -0400 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong Message-ID: <200606080809.AA3031892182@mail.ttlc.net> For those that have mused, pondered and queried, the article may be found at: http://www.billboardradiomonitor.com/radiomonitor/news/business/ratings_research/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002649329 From sid@wrko.com Thu Jun 8 10:43:47 2006 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 08:43:47 -0600 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong Message-ID: >>What's a PPM?<< Personal People Meter. Arbitron's hand-held electronic device for audience measurement. Reputedly more accurate than diaries. We'll see. :-) Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Jun 8 11:39:51 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 11:39:51 -0400 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17544.17607.231613.3916@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: >>> What's a PPM?<< > Personal People Meter. Arbitron's hand-held electronic device for > audience measurement. Reputedly more accurate than diaries. We'll see. Well, it really depends on how you define "accurate". The diary system and the PPM measure different things: the diary measures *recall* and the PPM measures *audience*, without any knowledge of whether the participant is actually paying any attention. I don't know if either one correlates well to advertising response rate. -GAWollman From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Jun 8 14:11:14 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 14:11:14 -0400 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong Message-ID: <200606081411.AA1335820368@mail.ttlc.net> Garrett Wollman wrote: >Well, it really depends on how you define "accurate". The diary >system and the PPM measure different things: the diary measures >*recall* and the PPM measures *audience*, without any knowledge of >whether the participant is actually paying any attention. I don't >know if either one correlates well to advertising response rate. It would be instructive if a PPM wearer also kept a diary. And the the two results were correlated. From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Jun 8 16:58:06 2006 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:58:06 -0500 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong Message-ID: <20060608205806.A7EFECA0CB@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rogerkirk > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: Gues We Were All Wrong > Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 08:09:57 -0400 > > > For those that have mused, pondered and queried, the article may be found at: > > http://www.billboardradiomonitor.com/radiomonitor/news/business/ratings_research/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002649329 After establishing an empirical number of people who are "satisfied" with terrestrial radio, the article concludes "people just LOVE their radio". So radio must be like sex...when it's just satisfactory, it's still pretty damn good. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Jun 8 20:48:09 2006 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 20:48:09 -0400 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong In-Reply-To: <20060608205806.A7EFECA0CB@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <003601c68b5e$61695ec0$6800a8c0@Andrastea> >After establishing an empirical number of people who are "satisfied" with >terrestrial radio, the article concludes "people just LOVE their radio". >So radio must be like sex...when it's just satisfactory, it's still pretty >damn good. Especially when you invite someone to join you. ------------------------------------ Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. Brian Vita President brian_vita@cssinc.com 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 tel: 978-538-7575 fax: 978-538-7550 AIM: btvita ------------------------------------ From sid@wrko.com Fri Jun 9 08:20:10 2006 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 06:20:10 -0600 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong Message-ID: >>For those that have mused, pondered and queried, the article may be found at: http://www.billboardradiomonitor.com/radiomonitor/news/business/ratings_research/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002649329 After establishing an empirical number of people who are "satisfied" with terrestrial radio, the article concludes "people just LOVE their radio". So radio must be like sex...when it's just satisfactory, it's still pretty damn good.<< One of the better recent examples of drawing self-evident conclusions from junk surveys which make people feel good and tell those who paid for the so-called survey exactly what they wanted to hear. Think about it for a moment. They interviewed "terrestrial radio listeners." I don't see where they interviewed people who listen to satellite radio, Internet radio, iPods and the like, or more importantly those who have abandoned radio altogether. Of COURSE most of the people who listen to terrestrial radio like it!!! Unless you live in a cave, it's impossible not to know that there are alternatives, and if you haven't latched onto one of those alternatives, you must have at least some degree of satisfaction with the status quo. hear2 is an arm of Mercury Radio Research, which is completely beholden to the radio industry which pays for such so-called research. Heaven forbid these people might actually seek out those who don't listen to terrestrial radio anymore, ask them why they gave up on it and what terrestrial radio can do to get them back. Such data would be far more useful than this piece of crapola...but I'm also betting that the terrestrial radio industry might not like the answers to such questions. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From n1qgs@yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 18:52:47 2006 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 15:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: More on radio derry Message-ID: <20060609225247.65924.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> They have an actual web site. http://www.radioderry.com/ Their address is listed at 55 Crystal Ave (Rte 28), which is a shopping center near the police station and the high school. John B Derry From n1qgs@yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 18:43:44 2006 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 15:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Radio Derry (NH) 1700 AM Message-ID: <20060609224345.62382.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Londonderry (NH)Times, a free weekly paper, has an article this week on the new Radio Derry AM 1700. Owned and operated by Rick Ganley, who has been professionally involved in radio since 1990, according to the article. The article is written in the present tense, as if the station is already on the air. The article goes on to say that the station will offer commuters quick segments of local news, weather as well as state and national headlines. The programming will be offered in a continuous stream and will be updated several times a day, the article continues. The owner states he does not need a license, as the FCC allows low power stations to operate without a license. The owner is actively seeking local businesses for advertising hoping to make the station self supporting. All I can say is good luck transmitting legally to those who come within a few blocks of your flea powered station. Or is it flea powered? What's a misplaced decimal point or two when you're talking about power? John B Derry NH From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Jun 9 20:11:29 2006 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 20:11:29 -0400 Subject: Radio Derry (NH) 1700 AM References: <20060609224345.62382.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000c01c68c22$6c97c420$0200a8c0@Tanguray> This "radio engineer" kinda wanders but the gist of the article is a legal LPAM on 1610 in California with 3-5 mile coverage, and it has been inspected to conform by the FCC. All you need is some nice billboards... http://www.netfeed.com/~jhill/1610.htm Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" To: Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:43 PM Subject: Radio Derry (NH) 1700 AM > The Londonderry (NH)Times, a free weekly paper, has an article this week > on the new Radio Derry AM 1700. Owned and operated by Rick Ganley, who > has been professionally involved in radio since 1990, according to the > article. > > The article is written in the present tense, as if the station is already > on the air. The article goes on to say that the station will offer > commuters quick segments of local news, weather as well as state and > national headlines. The programming will be offered in a continuous stream > and will be updated several times a day, the article continues. > > The owner states he does not need a license, as the FCC allows low power > stations to operate without a license. > > The owner is actively seeking local businesses for advertising hoping to > make the station self supporting. > > > All I can say is good luck transmitting legally to those who come within a > few blocks of your flea powered station. Or is it flea powered? What's a > misplaced decimal point or two when you're talking about power? > > > John B > Derry NH > From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Jun 9 21:44:29 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 21:44:29 -0400 Subject: Gues We Were All Wrong In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4489EBBD.26629.26E28A@localhost> On 9 Jun 2006 at 6:20, Sid Schweiger wrote: > hear2 is an arm of Mercury Radio Research, which is completely > beholden to the radio industry which pays for such so-called > research. Heaven forbid these people might actually seek out those > who don't listen to terrestrial radio anymore, ask them why they > gave up on it and what terrestrial radio can do to get them back. > Such data would be far more useful than this piece of crapola...but > I'm also betting that the terrestrial radio industry might not like > the answers to such questions. The problem isn't that such fluff research gets done, the problem is when news media hype it as a real survey. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From sid@wrko.com Fri Jun 9 22:05:48 2006 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 20:05:48 -0600 Subject: Radio Derry (NH) 1700 AM Message-ID: >>The Londonderry (NH)Times, a free weekly paper, has an article this week on the new Radio Derry AM 1700. Owned and operated by Rick Ganley, who has been professionally involved in radio since 1990, according to the article...The owner states he does not need a license, as the FCC allows low power stations to operate without a license. << You can bet that with that kind of publicity, the FCC will be on the scene as soon as they are able, complete with a field strength meter. How many times have we heard "I don't need no steenkin' license" from someone who ended up getting busted for a Section 301 violation (transmitting without a license and in excess of Part 15 limits)? Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Jun 9 22:54:31 2006 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:54:31 -0400 Subject: Radio Derry (NH) 1700 AM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200606100334.k5A3YcES056231@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> >You can bet that with that kind of publicity, the FCC will be on the >scene as soon as they are able, complete with a field strength meter. >How many times have we heard "I don't need no steenkin' license" from >someone who ended up getting busted for a Section 301 violation >(transmitting without a license and in excess of Part 15 limits)? What about this kind of publicity? http://www.radiocontinentale.com/ http://www.choice1029.com/ http://www.vibe1053.com/ http://www.nextlevelradio.net/ http://www.planetcompas.com/ etc....... Some of these have been sent letters and/or fines from the FCC, but it obviously does no good. It will be interesting to see what happens with "Radio Planet Compas" on 89.3, with their Randolph and Brockton transmitters (they also have one somewhere around Mattapan), once WUMD North Dartmouth signs on tomorrow. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 00:42:07 2006 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Radio Derry (NH) 1700 AM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060610044207.36423.qmail@web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Based on my limited driving in town this evening before sunset, I the station has at minimum a solid 1.25 miles range and a minimum barely perceptible range of 2.5 miles. So it is possible the station is running at 100mW with a very good or gray area antenna along with a decent site. The audio sounds good and the loop sounds professional. They actually had some up to date local news of interest to Derry residents. I haven't pinned down a transmitter location, but I-93 at exit 4 Londonderry and most of downtown Derry is well covered. I'm 3.75 miles from where I guessing the transmitter is listening on a Yaesu FRG-7 communications receiver and a decent antenna longwire antenna, and can't hear the station at all. John B Derry From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Jun 10 13:54:36 2006 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:54:36 -0500 Subject: Radio Derry (NH) 1700 AM Message-ID: <20060610175436.3D423E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Lehmann" > To: "'Sid Schweiger'" , boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: RE: Radio Derry (NH) 1700 AM > Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:54:31 -040 > Some of these have been sent letters and/or fines from the FCC, but it > obviously does no good. It will be interesting to see what happens with > "Radio Planet Compas" on 89.3, with their Randolph and Brockton transmitters > (they also have one somewhere around Mattapan), once WUMD North Dartmouth > signs on tomorrow. > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA That's interesting...the question is, will the "religious" broadcaster set to take over 91.1 start the same day, or will listeners near the South Coast be able to get WBUR-FM clearly for a little while at least? -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From info@radioderry.com Sat Jun 10 13:19:52 2006 From: info@radioderry.com (info@radioderry.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:19:52 -0500 Subject: Radio Derry AM 1700 Message-ID: <20060610171952.AB413EE9F6@ws6-1.us4.outblaze.com> Hello all- While not everyone jumps to conclusions, some are more then willing to without some fact finding. Radio Derry uses a Hamilton Rangemaster FCC certified AM transmitter. I've set it up by the book, with a final output power of 100 mw into the antenna that it is certified with, a steel CB whip antenna from Radio Shack. There are no field strength limits with AM part 15 rules as long as all other technical specifications are observed. Obviously, I have no intention of serving the entire town with a city grade signal; however, my house is right outside of downtown, and threfore sends a nice signal into that area of town. The idea is simply to offer local event info with inexpensive ads for downtown businesses. Don't worry law-and-order types... I fully expect the field office visit, and welcome it. For the Quincy office, I'm usually home after 2pm weekdays, and will be happy to let you examine the entire operation. If anything is out-of-order, I'd rather know right up front and fix it. As for the range, thanks John... I think you're about right. With an average car radio, I'm hoping for a listenable range of about 3/4 mile. I use an old refurbished CBS Volumax/ Audimax set up for processing with some equlization to mimic the NRSC pre-emphasis. And yes... we've actually gotten some interest in advertising. We'd like to get the word out some more first before 'selling' anyone on it though. No, I doubt much money will ever be made. Not the intention. Some fun part-time work that gets my family involved in community events would be great. Thanks for the soap-box- -Rick Ganley Radio Derry AM 1700 #117 55 Crystal Avenue Derry, NH 03038-1725 603-216-1547 info@radioderry.com www.radioderry.com From markwats@comcast.net Sun Jun 11 08:21:58 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:21:58 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report Message-ID: <001101c68d51$a5eb81a0$19b38018@Mark> Last night (Saturday June 10th) the WCAP (980 Lowell) 55th Birthday Party was held. It was a fun, memorable, and emotional evening. Fun as it brought together many WCAP alumni from as far back as the mid 50's to as recent as the late 90's, plus today's current staff. Memorable because some of these alums that had worked together in the past had not seen or spoken to each other since leaving WCAP, and emotional for WCAP owner Maurice Cohen, who was overwhelmed by the showing of past & present station employees, as well as listeners & members of the public who stopped by & watched all or some of the event. The live broadcast began with an introduction voiced by Gary Francis (who first worked at WCAP in 1968, left in 1970 & returned in 1999) and a montage of the biggest music hits of 1951 put together by Dan Bourret (late 80's- early 90's sports reporter/producer). Then the main host of the evening was introduced, Bill O'Neill (personality/talk host 1980-1996) who introduced and spoke with all the WCAP alums & current staff in attendance, plus the special guests who honored Maurice Cohen: Lowell City Councilor & former Mayor Rita Mercier presented a proclamation from the city, State Senator Steve Panagiotakos presented a proclamation from the Mass.State Senate, and our own resident broadcast historian Donna Halper presented a plaque from the Mass. Association of Broadcasters. Kendall Wallace of the Lowell Sun had a mock front page of the 6/10/06 paper all about WCAP's special day framed and presented. The Sun also sent a reporter and photographer to cover the event. Radio consultant Clark Smidt also stopped by to congratulate Maurice. Lots of fun, interesting, and in a few cases, never told in public before stories were shared on the air, and many old acquaintances were renewed. Plus in the last 20 minutes of the program, we discussed some of the history leading up to the start of WCAP as provided to us by Auntie Donna. Most of us were surprised to learn that the original calls assigned by the FCC were WABW. Maurice's late brother & station co-founder Israel "Ike" Cohen liked the WCAP calls, then in use at a station in New Jersey. Ike struck a deal with that station to buy the calls and move them to where they've been heard for 55 years & 1 day now. Also, we talked about how local radio like WCAP is important to a community and sadly, a disappearing breed. Scott Fybush (early 90's news) mentioned the recent sale of WESX & WJDA and their flip to all brokered time programs as examples of this continuing trend. Auntie Donna had left us a listing of Mass. stations from the 1963 Radio-TV Annual and Scott pointed out that some of the stations on that list are now dark or all birdfeed with no local content. WCAP is also one of the few remaining stations still under the same ownership family since day 1 and still in the same studio location since day one. Speaking of Scott Fybush, I believe he is the WCAP alum who traveled the longest distance to attend, driving in from Rochester NY. Bill O'Neill came down from his scenic vista in Vermont and Barry Pretzel (late 80's news) drove down from Rockland ME just to attend. Since Scott is still in Lowell as I post this, I will make mention that before heading home, Mr. Fybush will be meeting Maurice this morning to visit the WCAP transmitter site, something he never got the opportunity to do when he worked at CAP. Photos of the TX site plus a party report will come on his Tower Site of the Week at www.fybush.com Friday I'm told. Mark Watson From me@billoneill.us Sun Jun 11 09:30:19 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:30:19 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report In-Reply-To: <001101c68d51$a5eb81a0$19b38018@Mark> References: <001101c68d51$a5eb81a0$19b38018@Mark> Message-ID: <448C1AEB.8080304@billoneill.us> Mark Watson wrote: > Last night (Saturday June 10th) the WCAP (980 Lowell) 55th Birthday > Party was held. It was a fun, memorable, and emotional evening. Fun as > it brought together many WCAP alumni from as far back as the mid 50's > to as recent as the late 90's, What Mark didn't mention is how he was the glue that bound the event together! Low-tech won-out last night with a steno-pad and pen being passed back and forth between Mark and me on the fly as new guest would arrive or chatter points on people who were in the wings. Gary Francis' efforts were monumental. From conceiving the idea of the broadcast, arranging for dignitaries, presentations, right down to gathering, preparing and decorating the walls of the Gary's Ice Cream restaurant location with dozens of WCAP memorabilia. After over ten years on this list, I was thrilled to finally meet Donna Halper in person. Donna's presentation was wonderful and her perspective on local radio set a great tone early on in the broadcast. Scott Fybush and I caught up on old times, too. As I write this, Scott is likely preparing to join Maurice Cohen at the WCAP transmitter site/tower farm. I regret that I can't join them due to a family commitment. But methinks my presence there could turn the visit into a two day long excursion. My former boss and guy who gave me my first break into commercial radio, Joe Corcoran, was at the broadcast and it was great to catch up on old times and pick up where we left off as if it were yesterday. True with old buddy Bill Smith, as well, who was still able to recite, verbatim, a radio spot for the now former Mercier's Brothers Car and Van Wash, all in the stylings of former WCAP morning guy, and later WKOX broadcaster, John Tucker. If my memory and notes are right, packed into four hours, we were fortunate to be joined on mic by: Scott Fybush, Donna Halper, Mark Watson, Joe Corcoran, Dave Faneuf, Mary Blake, Bill Smith, Susan Czepiel, Julie Stinneford (Sider), Doug Barker, Mark Adams, Joe Abrams, Don & Anita Hill, Fred Faust, Dan Gillette, Ray Tremblay, Dan Boure, Casey Crane, Barry Pretzel, Pat McCarthy along with WCAP PD Ryan Johnston (voice of Spinners and Lock Monsters), Regina Fatacanti, George Anthes, John McDonough and Linda Bown. Bill O'Neill From markwats@comcast.net Sun Jun 11 09:51:20 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:51:20 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report References: <001101c68d51$a5eb81a0$19b38018@Mark> <448C1AEB.8080304@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <002c01c68d5e$2224ff10$19b38018@Mark> Bill O'Neill wrote: > What Mark didn't mention is how he was the glue that bound the event > together! Low-tech won-out last night with a steno-pad and pen being > passed back and forth between Mark and me on the fly as new guest would > arrive or chatter points on people who were in the wings. I didn't want to pat myself on the back!! However, Bill O' Neill did a yeoman's job keeping the show flowing smoothly. methinks he could have gone on for another 4 hours!! Gary Francis' > efforts were monumental. From conceiving the idea of the broadcast, > arranging for dignitaries, presentations, right down to gathering, > preparing and decorating the walls of the Gary's Ice Cream restaurant > location with dozens of WCAP memorabilia. I second the kudos for Gary. Gary & I had several lunches & suppers over the past few talking about pulling the event off, and of course Bill O was in the loop via e-mails & phone calls whenever one of us tracked down yet another alum. > old buddy Bill Smith, as well, who was still able to recite, verbatim, a > radio spot for the now former Mercier's Brothers Car and Van Wash, all in > the stylings of former WCAP morning guy, and later WKOX broadcaster, John > Tucker. And I remember not only the long-gone car wash (longtime Noon news sponsor 7 days a week on WCAP) but John Tucker's unique stylings on that spot and Bill Smith did a great job on the re-read without any script. > > If my memory and notes are right, packed into four hours, we were > fortunate to be joined on mic by: Scott Fybush, Donna Halper, Mark Watson, > Joe Corcoran, Dave Faneuf, Mary Blake, Bill Smith, Susan Czepiel, Julie > Stinneford (Sider), Doug Barker, Mark Adams, Joe Abrams, Don & Anita Hill, > Fred Faust, Dan Gillette, Ray Tremblay, Dan Boure, Casey Crane, Barry > Pretzel, Pat McCarthy along with WCAP PD Ryan Johnston (voice of Spinners > and Lock Monsters), Regina Fatacanti, George Anthes, John McDonough and > Linda Bown. And Maurice Cohen had more on mic time last night then he ever had in the past 55 years. One person was overheard telling another that he'll be getting his own daily show: "Middays With Maurice". Mark Watson. From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Jun 11 16:42:27 2006 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:42:27 -0400 Subject: Thank you to Everyone... Message-ID: <054c01c68d97$8d5f29c0$6500a8c0@Office> Thank you to everyone who made the WCAP 55th Anniversary Party & Reunion such a BIG success Saturday night, June 10th. When I first conceived of the idea a few months ago I wondered if we could possibly fill 4 hours of radio with the voices of the past....thanks to a HUGE turnout of former WCAP alumni we could have gone for 2 or 3 MORE hours! I don't want to start mentioning names because I will leave someone out....but big thank you's to Bill O'Neill who came down from Vermont to host the event for me......to Mark Watson for being the technical person behind it all.....to Dan Bouret for the Music Sweeps........and to Donna Halper for representing the Mass Assoc of Broadcasters in presenting Maurice Cohen with a plaque in recognition of his 55 years of service to Lowell. It was great seeing people who I only knew by voice.....and seeing people like Bill Smith and Mary Blake that I had worked with at WRKO in my various stints there as a fill-in talk show host. Again.....thank you to everyone who made the evening special for Maurice Cohen. I did record the entire show and will be able to fit all 4 hours (in mp3 format) on a CD or DVD. Pictures are being sent in from many of the people who came - I will be putting them all together on a CD-Rom as well. -Gary Francis (Frascarelli) News Director, WCAP And Gary's Ice Cream, Chelmsford and Lowell, MA Privacy Notice: The information provided in this communication is intended only for the individual / firm named above. It is considered privileged and confidential by the sender and as such only the intended recipient is authorized to receive it. If this information is received by anyone other than to whom it is directed, please notify the sender immediately. The discussion, disclosure or any release or other use of this information by any individual, other than to whom it was directed, is strictly prohibited by law. If you believe that you have received this e-mail in error, kindly contact the sender immediately for further instructions. Thank you, in advance, for your cooperation. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/343 - Release Date: 5/18/2006 From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Jun 11 18:04:20 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:04:20 -0400 Subject: Thank you to Everyone... In-Reply-To: <054c01c68d97$8d5f29c0$6500a8c0@Office> Message-ID: <448C5B24.22655.118BA54@localhost> On 11 Jun 2006 at 16:42, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > Again.....thank you to everyone who made the evening special for > Maurice Cohen. I did record the entire show and will be able to fit > all 4 hours (in mp3 format) on a CD or DVD. Pictures are being sent > in from many of the people who came - I will be putting them all > together on a CD-Rom as well. Please let us know when the CD is available. I think I'd like a copy. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun Jun 11 20:05:07 2006 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:05:07 -0400 Subject: Thank you to Everyone... In-Reply-To: <448C5B24.22655.118BA54@localhost> Message-ID: <004301c68db3$dd8c2710$6800a8c0@Andrastea> Please add me to the list too! ------------------------------------ Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. Brian Vita President brian_vita@cssinc.com 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 tel: 978-538-7575 fax: 978-538-7550 AIM: btvita ------------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of A. Joseph Ross > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 6:04 PM > To: Gary's Ice Cream > Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: Thank you to Everyone... > > > On 11 Jun 2006 at 16:42, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > > > Again.....thank you to everyone who made the evening special for > > Maurice Cohen. I did record the entire show and will be able to fit > > all 4 hours (in mp3 format) on a CD or DVD. Pictures are being sent > > in from many of the people who came - I will be putting them all > > together on a CD-Rom as well. > > Please let us know when the CD is available. I think I'd like a > copy. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 13:30:02 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:30:02 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report References: <001101c68d51$a5eb81a0$19b38018@Mark> Message-ID: <013a01c68d7f$1eb6d760$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > Maurice's late brother & station co-founder Israel "Ike" Cohen liked > the WCAP calls, then in use at a station in New Jersey. Ike struck a deal > with that station to buy the calls and move them to where they've been heard > for 55 years & 1 day now. Does anyone know what the call letters stand for...or why they were chosen? (Was it simply that Ike "liked" them?) From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Jun 12 11:30:51 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:30:51 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report In-Reply-To: <013a01c68d7f$1eb6d760$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <001101c68d51$a5eb81a0$19b38018@Mark> <013a01c68d7f$1eb6d760$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <17549.34987.610462.982985@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Does anyone know what the call letters stand for...or why they were chosen? > (Was it simply that Ike "liked" them?) Originally, WCAP was a station in Washington, owned by AT&T; the call letters stood for the name of the local Bell Operating Company, the Chesapeake And Potomac Telephone Company. That station I believe turned into WRC when AT&T sold its stations to RCA (see also WEAF). The second WCAP was in the City of Asbury Park, New Jersey. -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Jun 12 11:46:36 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:46:36 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report References: <001101c68d51$a5eb81a0$19b38018@Mark><013a01c68d7f$1eb6d760$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <17549.34987.610462.982985@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <000e01c68e37$691a13e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> The Asbury Park WCAP was part of the three-way all-New Jersey time-share on 1310 (post NARBA). The other two stations were WCAM. Camden and WTNJ, Trenton. The FCC split up this arrangement sometime in the 40s or 50s with WTNJ moving to 1300 and becoming a daytimer (originally with 250W ND and eventually with 5 kW DA-D). The Asbury Park station (by then, I think, WJLK) and WCAM became 250W-U Class IVs on the 1310 Class III channel. WCAM is by now probably a Class B (if its antenna meets Class B efficiency requirements) albeit with facilities no different than if it were a Class C (the latter-day embodiment of Class IV AMs). WJLK increased its power and went directional. It is now definitely a Class B, I believe with 2.5 kW-D/1 kW-N DA-2. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Don A." Cc: "Boston Radio" Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:30 AM Subject: Re: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report > < said: > > > Does anyone know what the call letters stand for...or why they were chosen? > > > (Was it simply that Ike "liked" them?) > > Originally, WCAP was a station in Washington, owned by AT&T; the call > letters stood for the name of the local Bell Operating Company, the > Chesapeake And Potomac Telephone Company. That station I believe > turned into WRC when AT&T sold its stations to RCA (see also WEAF). > The second WCAP was in the City of Asbury Park, New Jersey. > > -GAWollman > From me@billoneill.us Mon Jun 12 12:35:04 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:35:04 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report In-Reply-To: <013a01c68d7f$1eb6d760$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <001101c68d51$a5eb81a0$19b38018@Mark> <013a01c68d7f$1eb6d760$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <448D97B8.5030800@billoneill.us> Don A. wrote: > Does anyone know what the call letters stand for...or why they were chosen? > > (Was it simply that Ike "liked" them?) > > We learned that night from Donna's research that the random assignment to 980 was WABW but Ike bought the WCAP calls before it ever signed on. Another think I forgot to mention Saturday night was my recollection of a conversation that I had with Ike Cohen many years ago. He said that the original 980 kHz CoL assignment by the FCC (on paper) was to LAWRENCE, Mass., 10 miles up the river, not Lowell. Given that Lawrence already had 800 kHz as well as 1400 kHz (synchronous with 1400 kHz Lowell) Ike's first official act was to get a change of CoL to Lowell. Originally from Portsmouth, NH, Ike's original interest in Lowell was on the basis that that city lacked an AMer all to itself. As yes, it was simply that Ike "liked" them. That's what he told me. Take that to the bank! Bill O'Neill From me@billoneill.us Mon Jun 12 12:49:54 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:49:54 -0400 Subject: 5 kW 980 kHz DA-2 Message-ID: <448D9B32.4090204@billoneill.us> Scott made his trek to the WCAP tower farm, his fancy camera in hand, on Sunday morning with Maurice Cohen. It will be interesting to contrast what Scott's views were in comparison to some very early shots of the tower farm that are located at the station website at wcap.net taken in 1981. (As of this writing, we hope to meet up with Scott in Middlebury, VT for a coffee before he completes his trip back to base camp.) It was great to hear from people who were involved with the many months of engineering work and signal study that went into gaining approval of WCAP's 5kW DA-2 configuration, granted in 1980. In fact, venerable newsguy Dave Faneuf noted that he, too, teamed up with the guys to gather the necessary data back in '79 - '80, recalling many a swamp to slog through. File under: You learn something every day, or, some people will go anywhere for the story. Bill O'Neill -- If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Jun 12 13:37:45 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:37:45 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report In-Reply-To: <17549.34987.610462.982985@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <013a01c68d7f$1eb6d760$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <001101c68d51$a5eb81a0$19b38018@Mark> <013a01c68d7f$1eb6d760$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20060612133601.02e5a858@pop.registeredsite.com> >Garrett wrote-- > >Originally, WCAP was a station in Washington, owned by AT&T; the call >letters stood for the name of the local Bell Operating Company, the >Chesapeake And Potomac Telephone Company. That station I believe >turned into WRC when AT&T sold its stations to RCA (see also WEAF). >The second WCAP was in the City of Asbury Park, New Jersey. It was the station in Jersey they were waiting for-- WCAP gave up its calls on the first of the month, and WCAP in Lowell was born five days later. Evidently, the Cohens liked those calls better than the ones the FCC originally tried to give them when they first tried to get a license back in 1946 (!). From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 14:15:17 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:15:17 -0400 Subject: bose+hd? Message-ID: <01b201c68e4c$4497de20$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> ...anyone know if the bose radio has hd capability yet. are they planning for an hd unit? From markwats@comcast.net Mon Jun 12 15:53:23 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:53:23 -0400 Subject: Lowell Sun Article On WCAP's 55th Message-ID: <004401c68e59$e023bd70$19b38018@Mark> The Lowell Sun ran a story in Monday's (June 12) edition about this past weekend's WCAP 55th anniversary party/ reunion. It's been posted on their website, here's a link to the story for those who may want to read it: http://www.lowellsun.com/local/ci_3927958 Mark Watson From stephanie@gordsven.com Mon Jun 12 15:31:55 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:31:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: bose+hd? In-Reply-To: <01b201c68e4c$4497de20$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <01b201c68e4c$4497de20$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <40493.12.37.144.130.1150140715.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> On Mon, June 12, 2006 14:15, Don A. wrote: > > ...anyone know if the bose radio has hd capability yet. It doesn't. It's just a gussied up AM/FM radio. Bose hasn't announced plans for IBOC receivers. Tivoli has said they're not going to roll one out until the technology is much more perfected. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From revdoug1@verizon.net Mon Jun 12 17:34:37 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:34:37 -0400 Subject: Quote worth noting Message-ID: <033b01c68e68$01936e20$6401a8c0@pastor2> There is what I think is a great, and perhaps prophetic, line in the new "Prairie Home Companion" movie, which revolves around the impending demise of the show due to fictional station WLT's purchase by a Texas conglomerate. The Texas company is headed by a character appropriately called The Axeman, who plans to gut the station's entire format. One of "PHC"'s characters comments, ?There won?t be anything left on the radio except people yelling at you and computers playing music.? - Doug From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Mon Jun 12 17:45:21 2006 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:45:21 -0400 Subject: bose+hd? In-Reply-To: <40493.12.37.144.130.1150140715.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> References: <01b201c68e4c$4497de20$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <40493.12.37.144.130.1150140715.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060612173513.0227fad0@pop.gis.net> The roll out of HD Radio is among the most mismanaged product introductions IMO. When Disney premiers a new movie the stores are stocked with branded merchandise. Try and find a home receiver (not table radio) with HD Radio. There are none that will receive the sub-channels. A salesman in Tweeter told me that none of the car radios do either. He also told me that customers come in asking for the product because of the advertising campaign but Tweeter has nothing to satisfy the demand. By the time there is product the demand will be gone. The goodwill is going. Consumers will not wait, they just go on to the next hot item. At 03:31 PM 6/12/2006, Stephanie Weil wrote: >On Mon, June 12, 2006 14:15, Don A. wrote: > > > > ...anyone know if the bose radio has hd capability yet. > >It doesn't. It's just a gussied up AM/FM radio. > >Bose hasn't announced plans for IBOC receivers. > >Tivoli has said they're not going to roll one out until the technology is >much more perfected. > >-- >Stephanie Weil >New York City, NY, USA Ron Bello Bello Associates, Inc. 160 Speen Street - Suite 303 Framingham, MA 01701 508-820-1100 Fax 820-1112 From rogerkola@aol.com Mon Jun 12 20:04:22 2006 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:04:22 -0400 Subject: bose+hd? References: <01b201c68e4c$4497de20$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net><40493.12.37.144.130.1150140715.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060612173513.0227fad0@pop.gis.net> Message-ID: <000801c68e7c$eeac5c80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> An interesting article in an insert inside the latest edition of Radio or Broadcast Engineer Magazine or another of the same ilk, concerning Boston Acoustics' "Receptor" Radio ($299) and it's inability to actually receive the HD signals as it was designed to do out of the box. With much hand wringing and research, it was determined that supplied extendable whip was too inefficient to provide the signal strength required for HD although it worked fine on "standard" (FM) broadcast. (Remember when "Standard Broadcast" meant AM?) The solution was to throw a "twinlead" FM antenna into the box to assist with HD reception. (At least with Stereo AM they gave you a car to go around it!) Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Bello" To: "Stephanie Weil" ; "Don A." Cc: Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 5:45 PM Subject: Re: bose+hd? > > The roll out of HD Radio is among the most mismanaged product introductions > IMO. > > When Disney premiers a new movie the stores are stocked with branded > merchandise. > Try and find a home receiver (not table radio) with HD Radio. There are > none that will > receive the sub-channels. > Ron Bello > Bello Associates, Inc. > 160 Speen Street - Suite 303 > Framingham, MA 01701 From rogerkola@aol.com Mon Jun 12 20:04:31 2006 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:04:31 -0400 Subject: bose+hd? References: <01b201c68e4c$4497de20$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net><40493.12.37.144.130.1150140715.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060612173513.0227fad0@pop.gis.net> Message-ID: <000901c68e7c$f26f30e0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> An interesting article in an insert inside the latest edition of Radio or Broadcast Engineer Magazine or another of the same ilk, concerning Boston Acoustics' "Receptor" Radio ($299) and it's inability to actually receive the HD signals as it was designed to do out of the box. With much hand wringing and research, it was determined that supplied extendable whip was too inefficient to provide the signal strength required for HD although it worked fine on "standard" (FM) broadcast. (Remember when "Standard Broadcast" meant AM?) The solution was to throw a "twinlead" FM antenna into the box to assist with HD reception. (At least with Stereo AM they gave you a car to go around it!) Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Bello" To: "Stephanie Weil" ; "Don A." Cc: Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 5:45 PM Subject: Re: bose+hd? > > The roll out of HD Radio is among the most mismanaged product introductions > IMO. > > When Disney premiers a new movie the stores are stocked with branded > merchandise. > Try and find a home receiver (not table radio) with HD Radio. There are > none that will > receive the sub-channels. > Ron Bello > Bello Associates, Inc. > 160 Speen Street - Suite 303 > Framingham, MA 01701 From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 22:12:20 2006 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: bose+hd? In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060612173513.0227fad0@pop.gis.net> Message-ID: <20060613021220.39533.qmail@web55312.mail.re4.yahoo.com> --- Ron Bello wrote: > > The roll out of HD Radio is among the most > mismanaged product introductions > IMO. > When Disney premiers a new movie the stores are > stocked with branded > merchandise. That's easy when Disney owns everything. ;-) Seriously, when you have to coordinate competing radio manufacturers, competing broadcasters, factories in Japan and the whole automotive industry....and then line up some stores to carry them.........I think they had done a pretty good job of getting everybody on board for a first step. Remember how "AM Stereo" faltered? Confusion, competing systems, etc. I'm amazed that HD this many people on board with any kind of agreement! > Try and find a home receiver (not table radio) with > HD Radio. There are > none that will > receive the sub-channels. Right now it is still in the novelty stages....and portables, auto sets and table-tops are the first out to test the waters. They were (no doubt) easier to get into production. They have to overcome the "Radios won't be built until people want it....and people won't want it until radios are built! The whole HD thing is starting slowly....table tops, car radios....at the same time the HD channels are being programmed in a very basic way.....automated, etc. > A salesman in Tweeter > told me that none of the > car radios do > either. My understanding is that some cars (high end no doubt) WILL have HD radio installed coming this fall. HD car radios are found easily. > He also told me that customers come in > asking for the product > because of the > advertising campaign but Tweeter has nothing to > satisfy the demand. The whole HD radio thing is only about a year old. Tweeter HAS since taken the first step to getting involved. http://www.tweeter.com/hdradio/ Radio Shack and Crutchfield are also carrying them. > By the > time > there is product the demand will be gone. The product is there....and the radio ads point people to Radio Shack, Crutchfield and others. Again...it's a slow start. It may be like the arrival of FM. FM radio really didn't mature until it started being available regularly in the cars. That should start this fall. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jun 13 06:38:21 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 06:38:21 -0400 Subject: bose+hd? References: <20060613021220.39533.qmail@web55312.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000f01c68ed5$8b63f580$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Donald A wrote: The whole HD radio thing is only about a year old. ----- Try 10 or 12 years. Really! You can probably read the history at iBiquity's Web site. I haven't checked, but it seems natural that the history would be there. Of course, until proven otherwise, any history at iBiquity's site should be regarded as, well, biased. iBiquity is the product of a merger between two competing companies: USA Digital Radio (formed by many large group broadcasters of the time, some of which have, themselves, merged in the meantime) and Lucent Digital Radio. It is truly amazing that such smart people could manage to come up with such a badly flawed scheme, could so completely ignore the laws of physics and the subtleties of existing broadcast technology, and could devise such onerous licensing arrangements. I think that any rational, objective observer would have to conclude that iBiquity et al have a serious death wish. Of couse, many who watch the radio industry are cheering for the death wish ;>) -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald A." To: "Ron Bello" ; Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:12 PM Subject: Re: bose+hd? > > > --- Ron Bello wrote: > > > > > The roll out of HD Radio is among the most > > mismanaged product introductions > > IMO. > > When Disney premiers a new movie the stores are > > stocked with branded > > merchandise. > > That's easy when Disney owns everything. ;-) > > Seriously, when you have to coordinate competing radio > manufacturers, competing broadcasters, factories in > Japan and the whole automotive industry....and then > line up some stores to carry them.........I think they > had done a pretty good job of getting everybody on > board for a first step. > > Remember how "AM Stereo" faltered? Confusion, > competing systems, etc. I'm amazed that HD this many > people on board with any kind of agreement! > > > Try and find a home receiver (not table radio) with > > HD Radio. There are > > none that will > > receive the sub-channels. > > Right now it is still in the novelty stages....and > portables, auto sets and table-tops are the first out > to test the waters. They were (no doubt) easier to > get into production. > > They have to overcome the "Radios won't be built until > people want it....and people won't want it until > radios are built! > > The whole HD thing is starting slowly....table tops, > car radios....at the same time the HD channels are > being programmed in a very basic way.....automated, > etc. > > > A salesman in Tweeter > > told me that none of the > > car radios do > > either. > > My understanding is that some cars (high end no doubt) > WILL have HD radio installed coming this fall. > > HD car radios are found easily. > > > He also told me that customers come in > > asking for the product > > because of the > > advertising campaign but Tweeter has nothing to > > satisfy the demand. > > The whole HD radio thing is only about a year old. > > Tweeter HAS since taken the first step to getting > involved. > > http://www.tweeter.com/hdradio/ > > Radio Shack and Crutchfield are also carrying them. > > > By the > > time > > there is product the demand will be gone. > > The product is there....and the radio ads point people > to Radio Shack, Crutchfield and others. > > Again...it's a slow start. > > It may be like the arrival of FM. > > FM radio really didn't mature until it started being > available regularly in the cars. That should start > this fall. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From Dave_in_Boston2001@hotmail.com Tue Jun 13 12:43:10 2006 From: Dave_in_Boston2001@hotmail.com (Dave in Boston) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:43:10 -0400 Subject: bose+hd? References: <20060613021220.39533.qmail@web55312.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <000f01c68ed5$8b63f580$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: > Donald A wrote: > > The whole HD radio thing is only about a year old. > > ----- > > Try 10 or 12 years. Really! But the HD Radio Alliance...the industry's effort to promote the technology is only about a year (or so) old. From bill.smith@comcast.net Tue Jun 13 22:56:47 2006 From: bill.smith@comcast.net (bill.smith@comcast.net) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:56:47 +0000 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report Message-ID: <061420060256.29399.448F7AEF00043DF3000072D72205886172089B07039CD20404070D@comcast.net> Ike also told me the tale of first being licensed to Lawrence. He was more worried about WLAW, which had night service and had won authority to go 50kw, than about WCCM, which seemed to be forever a daytimer without even to protect CKLW. As Ike explained it, getting WTRY to go along with CAP's power increase to 5kw/24 hours was not much of a problem to the two operators; 'TRY's owners told him "the signals will mix over the Berkshires. Who the hell lives there?" The original station sign-on was voiced by a famous sports guy, I believe Ike said it was Ted Husing, who was also working as a DJ with Ike at WMGM when the CAP signed on. If I recall correctly, Ike told me the same guy had done the original sign-ons for the two other WCAPs. The first air shift was done by Ray Goulding. The day WCAP "went five," even the third brother, Teddy, was on hand. His first-class ticket was posted next to the remote control. Favorite Fun Fact of the night: Mo saying that Northeast Radio turned down a substantial cash offer to dump the calls. From madprof@ix.netcom.com Wed Jun 14 00:38:56 2006 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:38:56 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires References: <061420060256.29399.448F7AEF00043DF3000072D72205886172089B07039CD20404070D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000801c68f6c$73b63a00$a43f9c04@p133> : wrote on June 13, 2006 >>>> "...over the Berkshires. Who the hell lives there?" Them's fighting words, pardner!! Just kidding....you made me do a belly laugh, so I had to "respond" I grew up in New Lebanon NY, just "over the hill" (Lebanon Mtn), west of Pittsfield. which is close enough to the Berkshires..... fairly small population. In High School years (1962-66) WTRY was one of my favorites, (but they lost my loyalty when they quit top-40's & went to talk). I recall nights WCAP was usually strong enough to "interfere" (forgive my word choice), but often strong enough to make a clear WCAP ID - I was & am a serious DX' er. The last 24 years, I've lived in WCAP range, Waltham, now Concord. so have appreciated it more. Bob Sutherland From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 01:38:02 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:38:02 -0400 Subject: Radio Derry AM 1700 References: <20060610171952.AB413EE9F6@ws6-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <0ea101c68f74$c0f99c00$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> It appears that many on the list are interested in low-power operations. I wonder if Rick can tell us a bit about his background...and how it came about to start RadioDerry? Also, what kind of software are you using to run the whole thing? Don From hykker@grolen.com Wed Jun 14 07:20:53 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 07:20:53 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <000801c68f6c$73b63a00$a43f9c04@p133> References: <061420060256.29399.448F7AEF00043DF3000072D72205886172089B07039CD20404070D@comcast.net> <000801c68f6c$73b63a00$a43f9c04@p133> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20060614071814.01b334f0@pop3.grolen.com> Robert F. Sutherland wrote: >In High School years (1962-66) WTRY was one of my favorites, (but they lost >my loyalty >when they quit top-40's & went to talk). When did WTRY go talk? My recollection is that they transitioned from Top 40 to oldies in the mid-80s (albeit simulcasting with an FM), only dropping music within the past 10 years or so. From scott@fybush.com Wed Jun 14 11:03:20 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:03:20 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20060614071814.01b334f0@pop3.grolen.com> References: <061420060256.29399.448F7AEF00043DF3000072D72205886172089B07039CD20404070D@comcast.net> <000801c68f6c$73b63a00$a43f9c04@p133> <6.0.3.0.0.20060614071814.01b334f0@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <44902538.2040901@fybush.com> SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Robert F. Sutherland wrote: >> In High School years (1962-66) WTRY was one of my favorites, (but >> they lost >> my loyalty >> when they quit top-40's & went to talk). > > When did WTRY go talk? My recollection is that they transitioned from > Top 40 to oldies in the mid-80s (albeit simulcasting with an FM), only > dropping music within the past 10 years or so. WTRY was definitely oldies in 1991-92, when I'd hear them on the WCAP air monitor in the studio early on Saturday morning before WCAP signed on! They went all-sports on the AM around 1998, if memory serves, after several years of simulcasting with 98.3 Rotterdam, which lives on as oldies WTRY-FM. s From madprof@ix.netcom.com Thu Jun 15 13:02:12 2006 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:02:12 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires References: <061420060256.29399.448F7AEF00043DF3000072D72205886172089B07039CD20404070D@comcast.net> <000801c68f6c$73b63a00$a43f9c04@p133><6.0.3.0.0.20060614071814.01b334f0@pop3.grolen.com> <44902538.2040901@fybush.com> Message-ID: <00ee01c6909d$7324e1e0$38789c04@p133> Yes, by "talk" I meant non-music (such as sports)...which also was about the time it became WOFX, no longer associated with WTRY-FM I believe. And, yes, 1998 is when I quite even checking 980 signal when I visited home / Albany area. I apologize for my lack of precision. Thank you, especially Scott, for the corrections. I also was also disappointed with WPTR when it went WDCD & religious, (later WPTR again, & then...). another former top-40's when I was in high school. with "Boom Boom" Brannigan* for one. Bob From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Jun 15 14:01:25 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:01:25 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires References: <061420060256.29399.448F7AEF00043DF3000072D72205886172089B07039CD20404070D@comcast.net> <000801c68f6c$73b63a00$a43f9c04@p133><6.0.3.0.0.20060614071814.01b334f0@pop3.grolen.com><44902538.2040901@fybush.com> <00ee01c6909d$7324e1e0$38789c04@p133> Message-ID: <000c01c690a5$bc3f33a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> At one point I believe that Brannigan owned 1160 in Mechanicville. I think this was while he was doing a voice-tracked show on one of the later incarnations of Crawford-owned WPTR. In fact, I don't even know whether Brannigan might not still own 1160 (ex-WMVI; the calls are now WABY, I believe. What was WABY was acquired by WAMC, the big-signal public FM atop Mt Greylock. IIRC, what had been WAMC became WAMC-FM and WABY became WAMC (AM).) -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert F. Sutherland" To: Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:02 PM Subject: Re: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires > Yes, by "talk" I meant non-music (such as sports)...which also was about the > time it became WOFX, > no longer associated with WTRY-FM I believe. > And, yes, 1998 is when I quite even checking 980 signal when I > visited home / Albany area. > > I apologize for my lack of precision. > Thank you, especially Scott, for the corrections. > > I also was also disappointed with WPTR when it went WDCD & religious, > (later WPTR again, & then...). another former top-40's when I was in high > school. > with "Boom Boom" Brannigan* for one. > > Bob > > From stephanie@gordsven.com Thu Jun 15 14:24:23 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <000c01c690a5$bc3f33a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <061420060256.29399.448F7AEF00043DF3000072D72205886172089B07039CD20404070D@comcast.net> <000801c68f6c$73b63a00$a43f9c04@p133><6.0.3.0.0.20060614071814.01b334f0@pop3.grolen.com><44902538.2040901@fybush.com> <00ee01c6909d$7324e1e0$38789c04@p133> <000c01c690a5$bc3f33a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <38266.12.37.144.130.1150395863.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> On Thu, June 15, 2006 14:01, Dan Strassberg wrote: In fact, I don't even know whether > Brannigan might not still own 1160 (ex-WMVI; the calls are now WABY, I > believe. That's owned by Ernie Anastos, a TV anchorman for Channel 5 in New York City, I believe. It used to be WVKZ and did horse-races. A real oddity when I first visited Troy, NY back in 1998. > What was WABY was acquired by WAMC, the big-signal public FM atop > Mt Greylock. IIRC, what had been WAMC became WAMC-FM and WABY became WAMC > (AM).) That would have been the WABY at AM 14. Or 1400 for those of you with full-size radio dials. ;) It's a shame that the Capital District has no fairly decent stations to listen to, outside of AM 1160 and WROW-AM 59 -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Jun 15 14:50:55 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:50:55 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires Message-ID: <200606151450.AA289996990@mail.ttlc.net> "Stephanie Weil" wrote: >That's owned by Ernie Anastos, a TV anchorman for Channel 5 in New >York City, I believe. Ernie Anastos - a.k.a. Ernie Andrews - chief cook, bottle washer and staff announcer for 98.5 WROR-FM circa 1970-72 From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 14:52:04 2006 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <00ee01c6909d$7324e1e0$38789c04@p133> Message-ID: <20060615185204.5025.qmail@web39109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:02:12 "Robert F. Sutherland" wrote: > Yes, by "talk" I meant non-music (such as > sports)...which also was about the > time it became WOFX, > no longer associated with WTRY-FM I believe. Actually, depending on your interpretation of "associated with each other" they are still associated with each other. WTRY-FM and WOFX are both owned by Clear Channel, and they share studio space at the AM 980 tx site in Niskayuna along with WPYX (although this is about to change a bit - CC is building a brand new studio facility for all of their Albany area stations on State Route 7, but that new facility is still within sight of the AM 980 tx site. Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 15:02:15 2006 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <38266.12.37.144.130.1150395863.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> Message-ID: <20060615190215.42916.qmail@web39106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> On Thu, June 15, 2006 14:01, Dan Strassberg wrote: > In fact, I don't even know whether > > Brannigan might not still own 1160 (ex-WMVI; the > calls are now WABY, I > > believe. To which Stephanie Weil replied on Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:24:23 > It used to be WVKZ and did horse-races. A real > oddity when I first > visited Troy, NY back in 1998. > A clarifications - the radio station you mentioned that broadcast horse races was not AM 1160. That was WVKZ (AM 1240) Schenectady - they used to be owned by Capital District Off Track Betting (OTB), and broadcast a full slate of horse races and other betting info. I'm not sure if they were on 24-7 at that time, but I can't imagine the station possibly turned any kind of profit under that format; it was just an outreach of OTB. I'm not sure when it was sold or even who the current owners are, but AM 1240 now runs Scott Shannon's Real Oldies satellite format, and has a signal that does well in the city of Schenectady itself, but is horrible pretty much everywhere else. Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY > That would have been the WABY at AM 14. Or 1400 for > those of you with > full-size radio dials. ;) > > It's a shame that the Capital District has no fairly > decent stations to > listen to, outside of AM 1160 and WROW-AM 59 > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City, NY, USA > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From stephanie@gordsven.com Thu Jun 15 16:55:54 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <20060615190215.42916.qmail@web39106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <38266.12.37.144.130.1150395863.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> <20060615190215.42916.qmail@web39106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <54557.12.37.144.130.1150404954.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> On Thu, June 15, 2006 15:02, Matthew Osborne wrote: > A clarifications - the radio station you mentioned > that broadcast horse races was not AM 1160. That was > WVKZ (AM 1240) Schenectady - Ahhhhh. Thanks for the clearup. Apparently Anastos still owns WVKZ. http://www.wvkz.com/ -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Jun 15 16:57:01 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:57:01 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires References: <20060615190215.42916.qmail@web39106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004701c690be$41338800$6401a8c0@pastor2> "Boom Boom"'s real name is, if I'm not mistaken, Joseph Motto. He started with WPTR way back in the early '60s, if not before, stayed with the station until it dropped the Top 40 format in the mid-'70s, then showed up years later on WMVI. I don't think he ever owned WMVI, though. Does anyone know what he's doing now? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Osborne" To: "Stephanie Weil" ; "Dan Strassberg" Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:02 PM Subject: Re: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires > On Thu, June 15, 2006 14:01, Dan Strassberg wrote: > > In fact, I don't even know whether > > > Brannigan might not still own 1160 (ex-WMVI; the > > calls are now WABY, I > > > believe. > > To which Stephanie Weil > replied on Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:24:23 > > > It used to be WVKZ and did horse-races. A real > > oddity when I first > > visited Troy, NY back in 1998. > > > A clarifications - the radio station you mentioned > that broadcast horse races was not AM 1160. That was > WVKZ (AM 1240) Schenectady - they used to be owned by > Capital District Off Track Betting (OTB), and > broadcast a full slate of horse races and other > betting info. I'm not sure if they were on 24-7 at > that time, but I can't imagine the station possibly > turned any kind of profit under that format; it was > just an outreach of OTB. I'm not sure when it was > sold or even who the current owners are, but AM 1240 > now runs Scott Shannon's Real Oldies satellite format, > and has a signal that does well in the city of > Schenectady itself, but is horrible pretty much > everywhere else. > > Matt Osborne > Schenectady, NY > > That would have been the WABY at AM 14. Or 1400 for > > those of you with > > full-size radio dials. ;) > > > > It's a shame that the Capital District has no fairly > > decent stations to > > listen to, outside of AM 1160 and WROW-AM 59 > > > > -- > > Stephanie Weil > > New York City, NY, USA > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From scott@fybush.com Thu Jun 15 18:02:31 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:02:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <20060615185204.5025.qmail@web39109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <00ee01c6909d$7324e1e0$38789c04@p133> <20060615185204.5025.qmail@web39109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <37138.66.195.169.98.1150408951.squirrel@webmail3.pair.com> > Actually, depending on your interpretation of > "associated with each other" they are still associated > with each other. WTRY-FM and WOFX are both owned by > Clear Channel, and they share studio space at the AM > 980 tx site in Niskayuna along with WPYX (although > this is about to change a bit - CC is building a brand > new studio facility for all of their Albany area > stations on State Route 7, but that new facility is > still within sight of the AM 980 tx site. "Has built" a new studio facility, in fact - I was treated to a nice tour of the new digs a couple of weeks ago while passing through Albany. s From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 15 18:21:38 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:21:38 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <004701c690be$41338800$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <4491A532.11985.363C98@localhost> On 15 Jun 2006 at 16:57, Doug Drown wrote: > "Boom Boom"'s real name is, if I'm not mistaken, Joseph Motto. He > started with WPTR way back in the early '60s, if not before, stayed > with the station until it dropped the Top 40 format in the mid-'70s, > then showed up years later on WMVI. I don't think he ever owned WMVI, > though. Does anyone know what he's doing now? When 1540 became WPTR again, Boom-Boom was on that station doing the morning show. I believe he was still there when the WPTR format and calls moved to FM. I don't know whether he's still there. For that matter, I don't know whether the WPTR adult standards format is still there. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 15 18:21:37 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:21:37 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <000c01c690a5$bc3f33a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <4491A531.28605.363A75@localhost> On 15 Jun 2006 at 14:01, Dan Strassberg wrote: > At one point I believe that Brannigan owned 1160 in Mechanicville. I > think this was while he was doing a voice-tracked show on one of the > later incarnations of Crawford-owned WPTR. In fact, I don't even know > whether Brannigan might not still own 1160 (ex-WMVI; the calls are now > WABY, I believe. What was WABY was acquired by WAMC, the big-signal > public FM atop Mt Greylock. IIRC, what had been WAMC became WAMC-FM > and WABY became WAMC (AM).) Atop Mt. Greylock! No wonder it came in so strongly in Amherst. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Jun 15 19:36:24 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:36:24 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires References: <4491A532.11985.363C98@localhost> Message-ID: <005701c690d4$846b0330$6401a8c0@pastor2> I was in the Tri-Cities area in April. WDCD and WPTR(FM) both have Christian formats; I think the FM is music-oriented, while the AM is oriented around teaching/preaching-type programming. Crawford had a nice thing going when it resurrected WPTR with the adult standards format. Too bad it was discontinued. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Doug Drown" Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:21 PM Subject: Re: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires > On 15 Jun 2006 at 16:57, Doug Drown wrote: > > > "Boom Boom"'s real name is, if I'm not mistaken, Joseph Motto. He > > started with WPTR way back in the early '60s, if not before, stayed > > with the station until it dropped the Top 40 format in the mid-'70s, > > then showed up years later on WMVI. I don't think he ever owned WMVI, > > though. Does anyone know what he's doing now? > > When 1540 became WPTR again, Boom-Boom was on that station doing the > morning show. I believe he was still there when the WPTR format and > calls moved to FM. I don't know whether he's still there. For that > matter, I don't know whether the WPTR adult standards format is still > there. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From hykker@grolen.com Thu Jun 15 20:39:04 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:39:04 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <004701c690be$41338800$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <20060615190215.42916.qmail@web39106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <004701c690be$41338800$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20060615203551.01b39418@pop3.grolen.com> Doug Drown wrote: >"Boom Boom"'s real name is, if I'm not mistaken, Joseph Motto. He started >with WPTR way back in the early '60s, if not before, stayed with the station >until it dropped the Top 40 format in the mid-'70s, then showed up years >later on WMVI. I don't think he ever owned WMVI, though. Does anyone know >what he's doing now? Didn't he own (the now dark) 1400 in Berlin, N.H. in the mid-ish 80s? I somehow recall reading something to that effect back then...I don't think he kept it for very long. From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Jun 15 21:22:08 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:22:08 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires Message-ID: <200606152122.AA364380338@mail.ttlc.net> "Doug Drown" wrote: >I was in the Tri-Cities area in April. Back in the early 60's when I was a teenager and WKBW was my favorite station at night, WPTR was my second favorite. IIRC, WPTR referred to the "Quad-Cities" area. Did one of the four - drop out? From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 15 21:27:20 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:27:20 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <005701c690d4$846b0330$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <4491D0B8.18631.E046F2@localhost> On 15 Jun 2006 at 19:36, Doug Drown wrote: > I was in the Tri-Cities area in April. WDCD and WPTR(FM) both have > Christian formats; I think the FM is music-oriented, while the AM is > oriented around teaching/preaching-type programming. > > Crawford had a nice thing going when it resurrected WPTR with the > adult standards format. Too bad it was discontinued. I'm sorry to hear it was discontinued. Since the 1540 signal comes in quite strongly at night around the Boston area, I listened to it regularly when it was on AM. I was disappointed when it moved to FM, but I understood why it made sense to move a music format to FM. I suppose one can't fault a Christian broadcaster for doing Christian programming, but the "Legends" format was a good format while it lasted. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Jun 15 21:39:43 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:39:43 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires References: <20060615190215.42916.qmail@web39106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <004701c690be$41338800$6401a8c0@pastor2> <6.0.3.0.0.20060615203551.01b39418@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <00a301c690e5$be3e1cd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Steve: It sticks in my mind that you're right about Boom Boom owning the Berlin station. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:39 PM Subject: Re: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires > Doug Drown wrote: > >"Boom Boom"'s real name is, if I'm not mistaken, Joseph Motto. He started > >with WPTR way back in the early '60s, if not before, stayed with the station > >until it dropped the Top 40 format in the mid-'70s, then showed up years > >later on WMVI. I don't think he ever owned WMVI, though. Does anyone know > >what he's doing now? > > > Didn't he own (the now dark) 1400 in Berlin, N.H. in the mid-ish 80s? I > somehow recall reading something to that effect back then...I don't think > he kept it for very long. > > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 15 21:42:23 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:42:23 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <200606152122.AA364380338@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <4491D43F.16423.EE0E93@localhost> On 15 Jun 2006 at 21:22, rogerkirk wrote: > IIRC, WPTR referred to the "Quad-Cities" area. > > Did one of the four - drop out? I always remember it being called the "Tri-City Area" when I lived there in the early 1950s. I wonder what they count as the fourth city. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Jun 15 21:48:36 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:48:36 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors Message-ID: <00b701c690e6$fc6abfd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Following up on Boom Boom Brannigan's years at WPTR when it was a Top 40 station: I'm curious about the ratings wars that existed in metro areas such as Albany, Hartford, Providence, Portland, Manchester, and Boston back when each of those cities had (in most cases) two dominant Top 40 stations. In Albany-Schenectady-Troy, for example, which station carried the top ratings most of the time --- WPTR or WTRY? Can anyone comment on the other aforementioned cities, and others? -Doug From rickkelly@gmail.com Thu Jun 15 22:28:05 2006 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:28:05 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <4491D43F.16423.EE0E93@localhost> References: <200606152122.AA364380338@mail.ttlc.net> <4491D43F.16423.EE0E93@localhost> Message-ID: <521b7fd10606151928w535eec0fme5158704cb8dbd78@mail.gmail.com> On 6/15/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > I always remember it being called the "Tri-City Area" when I lived > there in the early 1950s. I wonder what they count as the fourth > city. Saratoga was the 4th city. -- -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Jun 15 22:30:56 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:30:56 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires References: <4491D43F.16423.EE0E93@localhost> Message-ID: <00d101c690ec$e6340bd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> I've never heard of it being called anything but the Tri-Cities, or the Tri-City Region (Area). By the way, did David and G. Myer Schine ever own any stations besides WPTR? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: Re: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires > On 15 Jun 2006 at 21:22, rogerkirk wrote: > > > IIRC, WPTR referred to the "Quad-Cities" area. > > > > Did one of the four - drop out? > > I always remember it being called the "Tri-City Area" when I lived > there in the early 1950s. I wonder what they count as the fourth > city. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From rickkelly@gmail.com Thu Jun 15 22:31:03 2006 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:31:03 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <4491D0B8.18631.E046F2@localhost> References: <005701c690d4$846b0330$6401a8c0@pastor2> <4491D0B8.18631.E046F2@localhost> Message-ID: <521b7fd10606151931n58328cf0g8f042e714622c5c2@mail.gmail.com> On 6/15/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > but the "Legends" format was a good format while it > lasted. It didn't last because a competitior signed on, WKLI Albany moved to s similar format a couple of years ago, That was the end of the "Legends" format (and the Boomer, who lost his morning gig. -- -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From rogerkola@aol.com Thu Jun 15 22:31:41 2006 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:31:41 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires References: <200606152122.AA364380338@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <002e01c690ed$00e38f00$0200a8c0@Tanguray> >>>I wonder what they count as the fourth city.<<< Ballston Spa? Menands? Scotia? Waterviliet? Latham? ;-) Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "rogerkirk" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Doug Drown" Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:22 PM Subject: Re: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires > "Doug Drown" wrote: > > >I was in the Tri-Cities area in April. > > Back in the early 60's when I was a teenager and WKBW was my favorite station at night, WPTR was my second favorite. > > IIRC, WPTR referred to the "Quad-Cities" area. > > Did one of the four - drop out? > > > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 15 22:35:41 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:35:41 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors In-Reply-To: <00b701c690e6$fc6abfd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <4491E0BD.9668.11EDE60@localhost> On 15 Jun 2006 at 21:48, Doug Drown wrote: > Following up on Boom Boom Brannigan's years at WPTR when it was a Top > 40 station: I'm curious about the ratings wars that existed in metro > areas such as Albany, Hartford, Providence, Portland, Manchester, and > Boston back when each of those cities had (in most cases) two dominant > Top 40 stations. In Albany-Schenectady-Troy, for example, which > station carried the top ratings most of the time --- WPTR or WTRY? > Can anyone comment on the other aforementioned cities, and others? > -Doug Not WGY? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 15 22:35:41 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:35:41 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <002e01c690ed$00e38f00$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <4491E0BD.27239.11EDF7D@localhost> On 15 Jun 2006 at 22:31, Roger Kolakowski wrote: > >>>I wonder what they count as the fourth > city.<<< > > > Ballston Spa? > Menands? > Scotia? > Waterviliet? > Latham? I would have guessed Rensselaer. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From rickkelly@gmail.com Thu Jun 15 22:38:34 2006 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:38:34 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <20060615190215.42916.qmail@web39106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <38266.12.37.144.130.1150395863.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> <20060615190215.42916.qmail@web39106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd10606151938s279ffbc7j7aac1bd6d7e48fc4@mail.gmail.com> On 6/15/06, Matthew Osborne wrote: > I'm not sure when it was > sold or even who the current owners are, but AM 1240 > now runs Scott Shannon's Real Oldies satellite format, Shannon's format is TRUE Oldies, 1240 is not running that format. To me, it sounds like it is locally produced. > and has a signal that does well in the city of > Schenectady itself, but is horrible pretty much > everywhere else. This has always been a problem for the station, going way back to the 1960's, when they were WSNY. It's tough for a small signaled station to do well in Albany, with the three cities being rather far away from each other. -- -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From rickkelly@gmail.com Thu Jun 15 22:40:46 2006 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:40:46 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors In-Reply-To: <00b701c690e6$fc6abfd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <00b701c690e6$fc6abfd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <521b7fd10606151940g32116ecfo3dbe5170ec2a3a0d@mail.gmail.com> On 6/15/06, Doug Drown wrote: > Following up on Boom Boom Brannigan's years at WPTR when it was a Top 40 > station: I'm curious about the ratings wars that existed in metro areas > such as Albany, Hartford, Providence, Portland, Manchester, and Boston back > when each of those cities had (in most cases) two dominant Top 40 stations. > In Albany-Schenectady-Troy, for example, which station carried the top > ratings most of the time --- WPTR or WTRY? Can anyone comment on the other > aforementioned cities, and others? In Albany, WTRY dominated, although WPTR had the occasional "bump". In Hartford, WDRC dominated. -- -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From rogerkola@aol.com Thu Jun 15 22:47:02 2006 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:47:02 -0400 Subject: Morning Drive Changeover at WBOQ References: <005701c690d4$846b0330$6401a8c0@pastor2><4491D0B8.18631.E046F2@localhost> <521b7fd10606151931n58328cf0g8f042e714622c5c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005901c690ef$25ce5320$0200a8c0@Tanguray> "Breakfast with Burnham" is no longer, with "Sammy" now holding the helm, possibly until "Charlie Curtis" slides from afternoons into the slot. It's also rumored that voice tracking will make up the rest of the schedule, at least until the Sox season is over. Always fighting to stay in at least the bottom of the Arbitron ratings, the station was left out last period. Roger WA1KAT From rogerkola@aol.com Thu Jun 15 23:03:37 2006 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:03:37 -0400 Subject: Fw: Top 40 competitors Message-ID: <001001c690f1$76dc3960$0200a8c0@Tanguray> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kolakowski" To: "Doug Drown" Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: Re: Top 40 competitors > In the 60's and early 70's Hartford was probably WDRC over what I remember > as a puny 5Kw WPOP. But once you got to the Connecticut Beaches it was > always WABC. > > Roger > WA1KAT > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Drown" > To: "Boston Radio Interest Board" > > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:48 PM > Subject: Top 40 competitors > > > > Following up on Boom Boom Brannigan's years at WPTR when it was a Top 40 > > station: I'm curious about the ratings wars that existed in metro areas > > such as Albany, Hartford, Providence, Portland, Manchester, and Boston > back > > when each of those cities had (in most cases) two dominant Top 40 > stations. > > In Albany-Schenectady-Troy, for example, which station carried the top > > ratings most of the time --- WPTR or WTRY? Can anyone comment on the > other > > aforementioned cities, and others? > > -Doug > > > > > > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 15 23:08:22 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:08:22 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <521b7fd10606151938s279ffbc7j7aac1bd6d7e48fc4@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060615190215.42916.qmail@web39106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4491E866.7407.13CCA74@localhost> On 15 Jun 2006 at 22:38, Rick Kelly wrote: > Shannon's format is TRUE Oldies, 1240 is not running that format. To > me, it sounds like it is locally produced. I'm almost afraid to ask, but what is considered TRUE Oldies nowadays? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 15 23:08:22 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:08:22 -0400 Subject: Morning Drive Changeover at WBOQ In-Reply-To: <005901c690ef$25ce5320$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <4491E866.8592.13CC94D@localhost> On 15 Jun 2006 at 22:47, Roger Kolakowski wrote: > "Breakfast with Burnham" is no longer, with "Sammy" now holding the > helm, possibly until "Charlie Curtis" slides from afternoons into the > slot. It's also rumored that voice tracking will make up the rest of > the schedule, at least until the Sox season is over. > > Always fighting to stay in at least the bottom of the Arbitron > ratings, the station was left out last period. If they could find a way to get a decent signal into Boston, they could go back to classical music when WCRB croaks. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From hopperman@metrocast.net Fri Jun 16 00:44:26 2006 From: hopperman@metrocast.net (Richard Hopper) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:44:26 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <521b7fd10606151928w535eec0fme5158704cb8dbd78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Having grown up in Albany I remember nothing but "Tri-Cities" Albany Schenectady & Troy. I have fond memories of Boom Boom Branigan doing a live broadcast from the grand opening of the Stewart's Bread N Butter Shop in Clifton Park. His shiny light reflecting sports coat was fabulous. Rick Hopper Nassau Broadcasting Lakes Region WLNH WLKZ WWHQ WEMJ On Thursday, June 15, 2006, at 10:28 PM, Rick Kelly wrote: > On 6/15/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > >> I always remember it being called the "Tri-City Area" when I lived >> there in the early 1950s. I wonder what they count as the fourth >> city. > > Saratoga was the 4th city. > > -- > -Rick Kelly > www.northeastairchecks.com > > From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Jun 16 01:06:18 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 01:06:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires Message-ID: <10357986.1150434378761.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > CC: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > To: "Dan Strassberg" > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:21:37 -0400 > Subject: Re: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires > > On 15 Jun 2006 at 14:01, Dan Strassberg wrote: > > > What was WABY was acquired by WAMC, the big-signal > > public FM atop Mt Greylock. > > Atop Mt. Greylock! No wonder it came in so strongly in Amherst. The WAMC signal has been known to come in as far east as Route 495 in greater Boston's metro-west, battling with Boston College's 1000 watt co-channel 90.3 WZBC Newton in that area. EP From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Jun 16 01:21:27 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 01:21:27 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <10357986.1150434378761.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.ne t> References: <10357986.1150434378761.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.ne t> Message-ID: At 1:06 AM -0400 6/16/06, Eli Polonsky wrote: > >The WAMC signal has been known to come in as far east as Route >495 in greater Boston's metro-west, battling with Boston College's >1000 watt co-channel 90.3 WZBC Newton in that area. I used to hear WAMC here in Salem, NH, until NHPR put a transmitter on 90.3 in Nashua. The beam direction is roughly the same for both, so there's no way to null out the Nashua signal. I don't know why NHPR keeps 90.3 live when they have a much stronger signal from 88.3, also in Nashua. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Jun 16 01:34:15 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 01:34:15 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires Message-ID: <30554459.1150436055485.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > From: Matthew Osborne > CC: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > To: Stephanie Weil , > Dan Strassberg > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:02:15 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires > > A clarifications - the radio station you mentioned > that broadcast horse races was not AM 1160. That was > WVKZ (AM 1240) Schenectady - they used to be owned > by Capital District Off Track Betting (OTB), and > broadcast a full slate of horse races and other > betting info. I'm not sure if they were on 24-7 at > that time, but I can't imagine the station possibly > turned any kind of profit under that format; it was > just an outreach of OTB. I'm not sure when it was > sold or even who the current owners are, but AM 1240 > now runs Scott Shannon's Real Oldies satellite format... Shannon's satellite is actually the "True Oldies Channel". EP From hykker@grolen.com Fri Jun 16 07:23:22 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:23:22 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors In-Reply-To: <521b7fd10606151940g32116ecfo3dbe5170ec2a3a0d@mail.gmail.co m> References: <00b701c690e6$fc6abfd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <521b7fd10606151940g32116ecfo3dbe5170ec2a3a0d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20060616071503.01b68f48@pop3.grolen.com> Rick Kelly wrote: >On 6/15/06, Doug Drown wrote: > >>Following up on Boom Boom Brannigan's years at WPTR when it was a Top 40 >>station: I'm curious about the ratings wars that existed in metro areas >>such as Albany, Hartford, Providence, Portland, Manchester, and Boston back >>when each of those cities had (in most cases) two dominant Top 40 stations. >>In Albany-Schenectady-Troy, for example, which station carried the top >>ratings most of the time --- WPTR or WTRY? Can anyone comment on the other >>aforementioned cities, and others? > >In Albany, WTRY dominated, although WPTR had the occasional "bump". >In Hartford, WDRC dominated. Funny how perception differs from reality...I grew up in small-town southern Vt. where WPTR boomed in (so to speak) and WTRY was barely audible I always thought WPTR was the market leader. Likewise in Buffalo, from what I hear some little graveyard channel station was a major thorn in WKBW's side. Of course outside the metro KB's superior signal won out. WKBR pretty much owned Manchester thru the 60s into the mid 70s despite WFEA having a better signal. From hykker@grolen.com Fri Jun 16 07:25:13 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:25:13 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <4491D43F.16423.EE0E93@localhost> References: <200606152122.AA364380338@mail.ttlc.net> <4491D43F.16423.EE0E93@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20060616072353.01b0f930@pop3.grolen.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > IIRC, WPTR referred to the "Quad-Cities" area. > > >I always remember it being called the "Tri-City Area" when I lived >there in the early 1950s. I wonder what they count as the fourth >city. Don't ever recall hearing A-S-T referred to as the Quad Cities...it was either the Tri-Cities or the Capital District. From rickkelly@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 08:16:04 2006 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:16:04 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20060616072353.01b0f930@pop3.grolen.com> References: <200606152122.AA364380338@mail.ttlc.net> <4491D43F.16423.EE0E93@localhost> <6.0.3.0.0.20060616072353.01b0f930@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd10606160516o74f8180dr50340ee74ba29164@mail.gmail.com> On 6/16/06, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Don't ever recall hearing A-S-T referred to as the Quad Cities...it was > either the Tri-Cities or the Capital District. Oh, it was short lived, believe me... WPTR did it BRIEFLY in the 1960's... back when I got my first "professional" radio gig as a "WPTR Poolside Reporter" -- -RK From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Jun 16 08:22:05 2006 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:22:05 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors References: <00b701c690e6$fc6abfd0$6401a8c0@pastor2><521b7fd10606151940g32116ecfo3dbe5170ec2a3a0d@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20060616071503.01b68f48@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <001601c6913f$7b6324a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Springfield was almost a "Hartford / Springfield" market as I remember it, with WHYN winning South of the city... Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: "Boston Radio Interest Board" Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 7:23 AM Subject: Re: Top 40 competitors > Rick Kelly wrote: > >On 6/15/06, Doug Drown wrote: > > > >>Following up on Boom Boom Brannigan's years at WPTR when it was a Top 40 > >>station: I'm curious about the ratings wars that existed in metro areas > >>such as Albany, Hartford, Providence, Portland, Manchester, and Boston back > >>when each of those cities had (in most cases) two dominant Top 40 stations. > >>In Albany-Schenectady-Troy, for example, which station carried the top > >>ratings most of the time --- WPTR or WTRY? Can anyone comment on the other > >>aforementioned cities, and others? > > > >In Albany, WTRY dominated, although WPTR had the occasional "bump". > >In Hartford, WDRC dominated. > > Funny how perception differs from reality...I grew up in small-town > southern Vt. where WPTR boomed in (so to speak) and WTRY was barely audible > I always thought WPTR was the market leader. Likewise in Buffalo, from > what I hear some little graveyard channel station was a major thorn in > WKBW's side. Of course outside the metro KB's superior signal won out. > > WKBR pretty much owned Manchester thru the 60s into the mid 70s despite > WFEA having a better signal. > > From rickkelly@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 08:20:43 2006 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:20:43 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20060616071503.01b68f48@pop3.grolen.com> References: <00b701c690e6$fc6abfd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <521b7fd10606151940g32116ecfo3dbe5170ec2a3a0d@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20060616071503.01b68f48@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd10606160520h68e7fb81p2635df440d68494c@mail.gmail.com> On 6/16/06, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Funny how perception differs from reality...I grew up in small-town > southern Vt. where WPTR boomed in (so to speak) and WTRY was barely audible But you also have to remember that in market, WTRY's signal was superior, particularly at nite, where WPTR was so directional away from about 50% of the market. Even their signal in the City of Albany, at night, was in some ways marginal... of course, in S. VT, it was GANGBUSTERS! -- -RK From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Jun 16 09:38:30 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:38:30 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors References: <00b701c690e6$fc6abfd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <521b7fd10606151940g32116ecfo3dbe5170ec2a3a0d@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20060616071503.01b68f48@pop3.grolen.com> <521b7fd10606160520h68e7fb81p2635df440d68494c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <013701c6914a$28218290$6401a8c0@pastor2> When I was in the area in April, I was amazed that I couldn't get WDCD (nee WPTR) on my car radio much west of Amsterdam. WGY, on the other hand, came in two-thirds of the way to Buffalo --- and it can be picked up very well in Massachusetts all the way to Fitchburg and Worcester (WCRN tends to interfere with it beyond there). -Doug -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Kelly" To: "SteveOrdinetz" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest Board" Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:20 AM Subject: Re: Top 40 competitors > On 6/16/06, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > > > Funny how perception differs from reality...I grew up in small-town > > southern Vt. where WPTR boomed in (so to speak) and WTRY was barely audible > > But you also have to remember that in market, WTRY's signal was > superior, particularly at nite, where WPTR was so directional away > from about 50% of the market. Even their signal in the City of > Albany, at night, was in some ways marginal... of course, in S. VT, it > was GANGBUSTERS! > -- > -RK From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Jun 16 09:49:00 2006 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:49:00 -0400 Subject: Morning Drive Changeover at WBOQ In-Reply-To: <005901c690ef$25ce5320$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <005701c690d4$846b0330$6401a8c0@pastor2><4491D0B8.18631.E046F2@localhost> <521b7fd10606151931n58328cf0g8f042e714622c5c2@mail.gmail.com> <005901c690ef$25ce5320$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <4492B6CC.9070908@cssinc.com> Roger Kolakowski wrote: >"Breakfast with Burnham" is no longer, with "Sammy" now holding the helm, >possibly until "Charlie Curtis" slides from afternoons into the slot. It's >also rumored that voice tracking will make up the rest of the schedule, at >least until the Sox season is over. > >Always fighting to stay in at least the bottom of the Arbitron ratings, the >station was left out last period. > >Roger >WA1KAT > > Yes, but at least that have that "unique" format that they switched to a few years back to set them apart. Brian Vita From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 10:22:57 2006 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Legends Format in Albany In-Reply-To: <4491D0B8.18631.E046F2@localhost> Message-ID: <20060616142257.50023.qmail@web39114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:27:20 "A. Joseph Ross" wrote, in response to the Legends format being discontinued in Albany: > > I'm sorry to hear it was discontinued. Since the > 1540 signal comes > in quite strongly at night around the Boston area, I > listened to it > regularly when it was on AM. I was disappointed > when it moved to FM, > but I understood why it made sense to move a music > format to FM. Although it made sense, it sounded to me like they made that move to FM only halfheartedly, with little to no planning whatsoever. I remember listening to Legends about a week after they moved to FM, and the sound quality, amongst other things, was absolutely awful. Station jingles and several songs they played sounded mono - it sounded literally like they just plugged the AM console into the FM transmitter, made no changes to the signal processing whatsoever, and didn't even bother to make sure things were tweaked for FM (even if the station jingles were not recorded in stereo, at least they could've cleaned them up to remove the artifacts and imperfections in them that did not show up in AM but were very apparent on FM). Needless to say, in the face of competition from WKLI (100.9 FM) which was properly tweaked for FM, their 96.7 FM incarnation of Legends collapsed in a matter of a couple months. Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Jun 16 11:15:48 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:15:48 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires References: <4491D43F.16423.EE0E93@localhost> Message-ID: <004001c69157$c3f910e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I never heard the Albany-Schenectady-Troy area referred to as the quad cities (I went to college there from '52 to '56) and I too have no idea what city would be the fourth one. I don't know the current population of Albany, Schenectady, or Troy, but in the 50s, Albany was about 140,000, Schenectady about 92,000, and Troy about 70,000. At that time, I dont think any other community in the market had a population of more than 30,000, and it wouldn't surprise me if that number were not 30,000 but more like 20,000. My guess is that today, the population of all three cities, like that of other major cities in upstate NY, has declined dramatically. (Buffalo's population has apparently dropped by 50% in the past 50 years.) The metro-area population has probably not declined as much as the population of the three cities, though, so maybe some community in the market (Latham?) has overtaken Schenectady or Troy. The state government's presence probably more-or-less sustains the population of Albany. Or maybe a station whose COL is one of the suburbs just decided to elevate the status of its COL. I always thought that the Quad Cities were Rock Island/Moline IL and Davenport/Bettendorf IA. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: Re: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires > On 15 Jun 2006 at 21:22, rogerkirk wrote: > > > IIRC, WPTR referred to the "Quad-Cities" area. > > > > Did one of the four - drop out? > > I always remember it being called the "Tri-City Area" when I lived > there in the early 1950s. I wonder what they count as the fourth > city. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Jun 16 11:37:04 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:37:04 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires References: <38266.12.37.144.130.1150395863.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> <20060615190215.42916.qmail@web39106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <521b7fd10606151938s279ffbc7j7aac1bd6d7e48fc4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005a01c6915a$bebbca20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Back in the 50s, WSNY was a fabulously successful station focusing entirely on Schenectady and its nearby suburbs. Had a VERY professional sound and a spot load of at least 20 minutes per hour all day long. Nearly all of the spots were locally produced and prerecorded using music and effects from several suppliers. The transmitter location, southwest of Schenectady, kept the signal from really penetrating Albany or Troy, but Schenectady was booming then and WSNY was doing better serving just the one city than most of the larger stations did trying to serve all of them. 1460 (then WOKO), in particular, had a very down-at-the-heels sound. It was the plaything of its owner, Col Jim Healy, a local Rush Limbaugh of his day. He used to broadcast ultra-right-wing commentaries, which he voiced himself, in tones and cadences not unlike Limbaugh's. Of course, there were no call-ins, and Healy's commentaries ran only about 15 minutes but I think he recorded them and rebroadcast at around 6:00 PM the ones that ran live at noon. Healy certainly LOOKED the part, a distinguished-looking, silver-haired, significantly overweight, sixty-ish gent who, IIRC, liked expensive cigars. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Kelly" To: "Matthew Osborne" Cc: "Stephanie Weil" ; "Dan Strassberg" ; Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:38 PM Subject: Re: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires > On 6/15/06, Matthew Osborne wrote: > > > I'm not sure when it was > > sold or even who the current owners are, but AM 1240 > > now runs Scott Shannon's Real Oldies satellite format, > > Shannon's format is TRUE Oldies, 1240 is not running that format. To > me, it sounds like it is locally produced. > > > and has a signal that does well in the city of > > Schenectady itself, but is horrible pretty much > > everywhere else. > > This has always been a problem for the station, going way back to the > 1960's, when they were WSNY. It's tough for a small signaled station > to do well in Albany, with the three cities being rather far away from > each other. > > -- > -Rick Kelly > www.northeastairchecks.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Jun 16 12:03:29 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:03:29 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors References: <00b701c690e6$fc6abfd0$6401a8c0@pastor2><521b7fd10606151940g32116ecfo3dbe5170ec2a3a0d@mail.gmail.com><6.0.3.0.0.20060616071503.01b68f48@pop3.grolen.com> <521b7fd10606160520h68e7fb81p2635df440d68494c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <008301c6915e$6d0909a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> WPTR--err, WDCD--is the victim of some really wild variations in soil conductivity. The transmitter is almost exactly half way between downtown Albany and downtown Schenectady, yet the signal is downtown Schenctady tops 75 mV/m and claiming 25 mV/m in the principal business district of the COL (Albany) was always an iffy proposition. (25 mV/m in the business district was a requirement when the station was built.) The soil conductivity between the Tx and Schenectady is about 8 mS/m (a good value--often encountered in Western NY), whereas between the Tx and downtown Albany, it is about 0.5 mS/m--about as bad as it gets anywhere. When WPTR first signed on in 1947 or 1948 it ran 10 kW-U DA-1, which produced a signal of less than 8 mV/m in downtown Albany. If you looked at the pattern (as opposed to a coverage map), you'd never have guessed. It was that signal deficiency that the station used to make its case for an almost immediate increase to 50 kW-U DA-1. And even after the increase, there were many locations in downtown Albany where the signal was less than 25 mV/m. WTRY, had flat-out the best signal in all three of the tri-cities of any AM in the market (even better than WGY in Albany and Troy). WTRY also ran DA-1 and the pattern, with a major lobe enveloping Albany and Troy and a minor lobe covering Schenectady, delivered 25 mV/m to the downtown areas of all three cities. The DA-1 pattern was designed to protect a co-channel station in Montreal (since moved to 990), so the signal in Saratoga and Mechanicville was minimal. Sometime in the 60s, I believe, WTRY went ND days, thus giving up a very strong signal in Pittsfield (not part of its home market) to provide daytime coverage of Saratoga and Mechanicville, which apparently are in the market. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Kelly" To: "SteveOrdinetz" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest Board" Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:20 AM Subject: Re: Top 40 competitors > On 6/16/06, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > > > Funny how perception differs from reality...I grew up in small-town > > southern Vt. where WPTR boomed in (so to speak) and WTRY was barely audible > > But you also have to remember that in market, WTRY's signal was > superior, particularly at nite, where WPTR was so directional away > from about 50% of the market. Even their signal in the City of > Albany, at night, was in some ways marginal... of course, in S. VT, it > was GANGBUSTERS! > -- > -RK From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Jun 16 12:18:45 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:18:45 -0400 Subject: Morning Drive Changeover at WBOQ Message-ID: > > From: "Roger Kolakowski" > To: > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:47:02 -0400 > Subject: Morning Drive Changeover at WBOQ > > Always fighting to stay in at least the bottom of the > Arbitron ratings, the station was left out last period. The published ratings only show 0.4 and above in the 12+ demo. A station could get an 0.3 and not be shown. Also, a station could do better within a certain age group, and I'm sure that if there was a survey that isolated only the North Shore, that they would have a fair showing in that area only, especially among older adults. That said, I don't really know how these stations are run, but why is WATD in Marshfield be able to keep a full-time live air staff with a (somewhat) similar musical format serving the South Shore, while WBOQ is automated or voice tracked evenings and nights (and rumored for afternoons soon as well) serving the North Shore? Is the South Shore a more lucrative Gold-based-AC demo than the North Shore? I know that WATD does not pay their overnight hosts who do very specialized oldies shows (50's doo-wop, etc...) as labors of love, but I'm sure they pay their regular hosts throughout the daytime shifts and early evenings. EP From hykker@grolen.com Fri Jun 16 12:23:12 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (Steve Ordinetz) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Morning Drive Changeover at WBOQ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40258.63.115.16.143.1150474992.squirrel@63.115.16.143> Eli Polonsky asked... > > That said, I don't really know how these stations are run, > but why is WATD in Marshfield be able to keep a full-time > live air staff with a (somewhat) similar musical format > serving the South Shore, while WBOQ is automated or voice > tracked evenings and nights (and rumored for afternoons > soon as well) serving the North Shore? Is the South Shore > a more lucrative Gold-based-AC demo than the North Shore? > Hasn't WATD had the same ownership ever since it signed on? The mortgage has probably been paid off so that's one less (rather large) bill that needs to be paid. Many stations VT because they can...aside from us radio geeks very few people can tell the difference, and even fewer care. From wollman@csail.mit.edu Fri Jun 16 12:23:33 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:23:33 -0400 Subject: Morning Drive Changeover at WBOQ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17554.56069.172111.816302@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > That said, I don't really know how these stations are run, > but why is WATD in Marshfield be able to keep a full-time > live air staff with a (somewhat) similar musical format > serving the South Shore, while WBOQ is automated or voice > tracked evenings and nights (and rumored for afternoons > soon as well) serving the North Shore? Is the South Shore > a more lucrative Gold-based-AC demo than the North Shore? I suspect Ed Perry puts a lot more of his own time and effort into WATD than Tanger puts into WBOQ. He's also a lot more involved and visible in the community, near as I can tell. Neither station has any direct competition. -GAWollman From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Jun 16 12:45:10 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:45:10 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires Message-ID: > > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > CC: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org, > Dan Strassberg > To: "Rick Kelly" > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:08:22 -0400 > Subject: Re: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires > > On 15 Jun 2006 at 22:38, Rick Kelly wrote: > > > Shannon's format is TRUE Oldies, 1240 is not running that > > format. To me, it sounds like it is locally produced. > > I'm almost afraid to ask, but what is considered TRUE Oldies > nowadays? The last I listened to the "True Oldies Channel", which was on WCRN 830 AM in Worcester until they dropped it for talk last month, it's a mid-60's heavy oldies format which still dips back to some of the major rock'n'roll hits of the mid- to-late 50's occasionally, and still plays a lot of early 60's, unlike most major market oldies stations such as WODS which have dropped everything pre-1964. On the upper end, "True Oldies" plays some early 70's oldies pop/rock hits, but avoids the 70's disco and late 70's/early 80's pop/softrock hits which have recently become staples of many mainstream oldies stations such as WODS. The "True Oldies" playlist is about like what mainstream oldies stations were playing about ten or fifteen years ago. EP From n1qgs@yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 11:42:56 2006 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: NHPR in Nashua In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060616154256.2234.qmail@web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >I don't know why NHPR keeps 90.3 live when they have a much stronger >signal from 88.3, also in Nashua. NHPR 88.3 in Nashua has a major lobe to the northwest, making it (on paper), weak in sections of the city covered by 90.3. (Even though the both transmitt from the same location just west of downtown.) In pratice, I find either 88.3 (Nashua) or 89.1 (Concord) covers everything 90.3 does equally well. Over course if you miss something on 90.3 you can switch over to 88.3 within the 7 second delay and hear it again. John B Derry From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Jun 16 12:57:26 2006 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:57:26 -0400 Subject: Morning Drive Changeover at WBOQ References: Message-ID: <002601c69165$f23c4b80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Ed noted: >>The published ratings only show 0.4 and above in the 12+ demo. A station could get an 0.3 and not be shown.<< Does Arbitron post a "margin of error" in their "polls"? In the Boston "Radio Listener's" market, does anyone know how many listeners .1 represents? Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eli Polonsky" To: Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: Re: Morning Drive Changeover at WBOQ > > > From: "Roger Kolakowski" > > To: > > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:47:02 -0400 > > Subject: Morning Drive Changeover at WBOQ > > > > Always fighting to stay in at least the bottom of the > > Arbitron ratings, the station was left out last period. > > The published ratings only show 0.4 and above in the 12+ > demo. A station could get an 0.3 and not be shown. Also, > a station could do better within a certain age group, and > I'm sure that if there was a survey that isolated only the > North Shore, that they would have a fair showing in that > area only, especially among older adults. > > That said, I don't really know how these stations are run, > but why is WATD in Marshfield be able to keep a full-time > live air staff with a (somewhat) similar musical format > serving the South Shore, while WBOQ is automated or voice > tracked evenings and nights (and rumored for afternoons > soon as well) serving the North Shore? Is the South Shore > a more lucrative Gold-based-AC demo than the North Shore? > > I know that WATD does not pay their overnight hosts who > do very specialized oldies shows (50's doo-wop, etc...) > as labors of love, but I'm sure they pay their regular > hosts throughout the daytime shifts and early evenings. > > EP > > > > From nostaticatall@comcast.net Fri Jun 16 13:38:54 2006 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:38:54 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors In-Reply-To: <001001c690f1$76dc3960$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <001001c690f1$76dc3960$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <43ed02318db45a228245d91a7cadc897@comcast.net> I grew up in Colchester, halfway between Hartford and the beaches. I could pick up WDRC during the day but not well, and at night it was gone. WPOP didn't reach that far south. As a little kid, I listened to WABC and WNBC primarily because they came in better, but they also had better jocks and music than WDRC. When WTIC-FM switched from B/EZ to Top 40 in 1977, I jumped over. While much was made of the competition between WPOP and WDRC, there was a second top 40 war from 1984 to 1993 when WKSS eventually flipped to Top 40 and battled with WTIC-FM. TIC-FM usually won out until the very end when Kiss finally overtook them in the early 90's. I was able to experience it firsthand as a weekend jock at WKSS in 1990. It ended with TIC-FM flipping to it's current Hot AC format, but that battle was just as competitive--if not more so--than the WDRC vs. WPOP wars of a generation earlier. --Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Jun 15, 2006, at 11:03 PM, Roger Kolakowski wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Kolakowski" > To: "Doug Drown" > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:35 PM > Subject: Re: Top 40 competitors > > >> In the 60's and early 70's Hartford was probably WDRC over what I >> remember >> as a puny 5Kw WPOP. But once you got to the Connecticut Beaches it was >> always WABC. >> >> Roger >> WA1KAT From wollman@csail.mit.edu Fri Jun 16 14:17:25 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:17:25 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors In-Reply-To: <43ed02318db45a228245d91a7cadc897@comcast.net> References: <001001c690f1$76dc3960$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <43ed02318db45a228245d91a7cadc897@comcast.net> Message-ID: <17554.62901.149794.420785@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > While much was made of the competition between WPOP and WDRC, there was > a second top 40 war from 1984 to 1993 when WKSS eventually flipped to > Top 40 and battled with WTIC-FM. The same thing happened in many, if not most, markets around that time. In Northern Vermont, where I grew up, there were three[1]: WGFB (99.9C Plattsburgh, "B-100"), WQCR (98.9C2 Burlington, "Q-99"), and upstart WXXX (95.3A South Burlington, "95 Triple X"). B-100 was all automated; Q-99 started out automated (it had previously had a beautiful-music format as WJOY-FM) but added live jocks in about 1983 (I remember getting a class tour of the station around that time). WQCR was the first to bow out, moving to AC around 1988 when they upgraded to C1 facilities, and finally to country WOKO in 1990. WGFB held on with the automation until Burlington Broadcasters took it modern (flanking their classic rocker WIZN [106.7C2 Vergennes]) under an LMA. That station was just sold by the Bissell family to Hall Communications for $2.5 million. -GAWollman [1] Briefly four, but WXTY (103.9 Ticonderoga) was never a player in the Burlington market, and Alan Chartock took it over in the summer of 1990. From wollman@csail.mit.edu Fri Jun 16 14:26:04 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:26:04 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors In-Reply-To: <17554.62901.149794.420785@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <001001c690f1$76dc3960$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <43ed02318db45a228245d91a7cadc897@comcast.net> <17554.62901.149794.420785@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <17554.63420.382828.822796@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > upstart WXXX (95.3A South Burlington, "95 Triple X"). Trivia: Dennis Jackson and a few other investors founded Radio South Burlington, Inc., to apply for that allotment. They were not successful, but RSB did win a number of other construction permits around New England. -GAWollman From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Jun 16 14:50:04 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:50:04 -0400 Subject: Morning Drive Changeover at WBOQ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060616144821.025dddf0@mac.com> At 12:18 PM 6/16/2006, Eli Polonsky wrote: >The published ratings only show 0.4 and above in the 12+ >demo. A station could get an 0.3 and not be shown. Also, >a station could do better within a certain age group, and >I'm sure that if there was a survey that isolated only the >North Shore, that they would have a fair showing in that >area only, especially among older adults. I wonder if anyone knows how this compares with the days when they were jazz, and before that, classical? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Fri Jun 16 16:08:31 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:08:31 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors Message-ID: <200606161608.AA647823580@mail.ttlc.net> Doug Drown wrote: >Following up on Boom Boom Brannigan's years at WPTR when it was a >Top 40 station: I'm curious about the ratings wars that existed in >metro areas such as Albany, Hartford, Providence, Portland, >Manchester, and Boston back when each of those cities had (in most >cases) two dominant Top 40 stations. In Portland Maine, WJAB (AM 1440 daytimer or low power nights - don't recall) was the dominant Top 40 station in the early/mid 60's. WCSH played Top 40 but kinda wimpy. To me JAB was the leader. They had Bob Fuller (yes, THAT Bob Fuller) & Jim Sands. Atlantic States Industries bought a sleepy MOR WLOB-AM 1310 (5KW), flipped to Top 40 on a Monday morning in 65 and WJAB folded like a house of cards. From rickkelly@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 16:55:41 2006 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:55:41 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors In-Reply-To: <001601c6913f$7b6324a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <00b701c690e6$fc6abfd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <521b7fd10606151940g32116ecfo3dbe5170ec2a3a0d@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20060616071503.01b68f48@pop3.grolen.com> <001601c6913f$7b6324a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <521b7fd10606161355i3a8fe5bbrf838c8d1d500675f@mail.gmail.com> On 6/16/06, Roger Kolakowski wrote: > Springfield was almost a "Hartford / Springfield" market as I remember it, > with WHYN winning South of the city... WHYN dominated all competitors in Springfield, and not a bad signal in Hartford. WACE, WTXL and WSPR were all Top 40 at one point in the 60's. In the seventies, WAQY-FM mounted an offensive. They were unsuccessful as well. Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Jun 16 17:31:02 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:31:02 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors References: <00b701c690e6$fc6abfd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <521b7fd10606151940g32116ecfo3dbe5170ec2a3a0d@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20060616071503.01b68f48@pop3.grolen.com> <001601c6913f$7b6324a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <521b7fd10606161355i3a8fe5bbrf838c8d1d500675f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <018501c6918c$2b7d51c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> What about WBZ and WMEX, in the pre-WRKO days? WBZ was always the big Top 40 station in eastern New England when I was growing up, but did 'MEX give it much competition in the Boston metro area? (We never could get 'MEX out near Fitchburg.) -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Kelly" To: "Roger Kolakowski" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest Board" Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 4:55 PM Subject: Re: Top 40 competitors > On 6/16/06, Roger Kolakowski wrote: > > > Springfield was almost a "Hartford / Springfield" market as I remember it, > > with WHYN winning South of the city... > > WHYN dominated all competitors in Springfield, and not a bad signal in > Hartford. WACE, WTXL and WSPR were all Top 40 at one point in the > 60's. In the seventies, WAQY-FM mounted an offensive. They were > unsuccessful as well. > > Rick Kelly > www.northeastairchecks.com > From cohasset@frontiernet.net Fri Jun 16 17:52:28 2006 From: cohasset@frontiernet.net (Cohasset / Hippisley) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:52:28 +0000 Subject: Top 40 competitors In-Reply-To: <018501c6918c$2b7d51c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <00b701c690e6$fc6abfd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <521b7fd10606151940g32116ecfo3dbe5170ec2a3a0d@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20060616071503.01b68f48@pop3.grolen.com> <001601c6913f$7b6324a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <521b7fd10606161355i3a8fe5bbrf838c8d1d500675f@mail.gmail.com> <018501c6918c$2b7d51c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <4493281C.10907@frontiernet.net> Doug Drown wrote: > What about WBZ and WMEX, in the pre-WRKO days? WBZ was always the big Top > 40 station in eastern New England when I was growing up, but did 'MEX give > it much competition in the Boston metro area? > (We never could get 'MEX out near Fitchburg.) > When I came to Cambridge in '58, it was staid / conservation WCOP vs. wacko WMEX. By the time I left the area in '67, it was mostly WBZ. Bud Hippisley From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Jun 16 18:00:47 2006 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:00:47 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors References: <00b701c690e6$fc6abfd0$6401a8c0@pastor2><521b7fd10606151940g32116ecfo3dbe5170ec2a3a0d@mail.gmail.com><6.0.3.0.0.20060616071503.01b68f48@pop3.grolen.com><001601c6913f$7b6324a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray><521b7fd10606161355i3a8fe5bbrf838c8d1d500675f@mail.gmail.com> <018501c6918c$2b7d51c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <007701c69190$52ce2e80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> I have a WRKO Golden Oldies yellow, see through LP...but other than that, I was between Hartford and Northfield, VT at the time. BTW...there was NO competition in Northfield, VT! Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: "Rick Kelly" ; "Roger Kolakowski" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest Board" Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Top 40 competitors > What about WBZ and WMEX, in the pre-WRKO days? WBZ was always the big Top > 40 station in eastern New England when I was growing up, but did 'MEX give > it much competition in the Boston metro area? > (We never could get 'MEX out near Fitchburg.) > > -Doug > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Kelly" > To: "Roger Kolakowski" > Cc: "Boston Radio Interest Board" > > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 4:55 PM > Subject: Re: Top 40 competitors > > > > On 6/16/06, Roger Kolakowski wrote: > > > > > Springfield was almost a "Hartford / Springfield" market as I remember > it, > > > with WHYN winning South of the city... > > > > WHYN dominated all competitors in Springfield, and not a bad signal in > > Hartford. WACE, WTXL and WSPR were all Top 40 at one point in the > > 60's. In the seventies, WAQY-FM mounted an offensive. They were > > unsuccessful as well. > > > > Rick Kelly > > www.northeastairchecks.com > > > > From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Jun 16 18:30:11 2006 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:30:11 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors References: <00b701c690e6$fc6abfd0$6401a8c0@pastor2><521b7fd10606151940g32116ecfo3dbe5170ec2a3a0d@mail.gmail.com><6.0.3.0.0.20060616071503.01b68f48@pop3.grolen.com><001601c6913f$7b6324a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray><521b7fd10606161355i3a8fe5bbrf838c8d1d500675f@mail.gmail.com><018501c6918c$2b7d51c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <007701c69190$52ce2e80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <001501c69194$6ef9f4a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> A shameless promotion for the best "oldies" available anywhere right now...WRLL on the internet streaming from Chicago: www.realoldies1690.com Just like 'KBW on Saturday nights without the hype! Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kolakowski" To: "Doug Drown" ; "Rick Kelly" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest Board" Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Top 40 competitors > I have a WRKO Golden Oldies yellow, see through LP...but other than that, I > was between Hartford and Northfield, VT at the time. BTW...there was NO > competition in Northfield, VT! > > Roger > WA1KAT > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Drown" > To: "Rick Kelly" ; "Roger Kolakowski" > > Cc: "Boston Radio Interest Board" > > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: Top 40 competitors > > > > What about WBZ and WMEX, in the pre-WRKO days? WBZ was always the big Top > > 40 station in eastern New England when I was growing up, but did 'MEX give > > it much competition in the Boston metro area? > > (We never could get 'MEX out near Fitchburg.) > > > > -Doug > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rick Kelly" > > To: "Roger Kolakowski" > > Cc: "Boston Radio Interest Board" > > > > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 4:55 PM > > Subject: Re: Top 40 competitors > > > > > > > On 6/16/06, Roger Kolakowski wrote: > > > > > > > Springfield was almost a "Hartford / Springfield" market as I remember > > it, > > > > with WHYN winning South of the city... > > > > > > WHYN dominated all competitors in Springfield, and not a bad signal in > > > Hartford. WACE, WTXL and WSPR were all Top 40 at one point in the > > > 60's. In the seventies, WAQY-FM mounted an offensive. They were > > > unsuccessful as well. > > > > > > Rick Kelly > > > www.northeastairchecks.com > > > > > > > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Jun 17 00:52:05 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 00:52:05 -0400 Subject: Legends Format in Albany In-Reply-To: <20060616142257.50023.qmail@web39114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4491D0B8.18631.E046F2@localhost> Message-ID: <44935235.7774.6BF1E5@localhost> On 16 Jun 2006 at 7:22, Matthew Osborne wrote: > Although it made sense, it sounded to me like they > made that move to FM only halfheartedly, with little > to no planning whatsoever. That's too bad, but it's no wonder another station doing the format right took their audience. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Jun 17 00:52:06 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 00:52:06 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors In-Reply-To: <001501c69194$6ef9f4a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <44935236.17510.6BF5E8@localhost> On 16 Jun 2006 at 18:30, Roger Kolakowski wrote: > A shameless promotion for the best "oldies" available anywhere right > now...WRLL on the internet streaming from Chicago: > > www.realoldies1690.com Yes, I listened to it last night and liked it. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Jun 17 00:52:06 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 00:52:06 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <005a01c6915a$bebbca20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <44935236.156.6BF68A@localhost> On 16 Jun 2006 at 11:37, Dan Strassberg wrote: > Back in the 50s, WSNY was a fabulously successful station focusing > entirely on Schenectady and its nearby suburbs. Had a VERY > professional sound and a spot load of at least 20 minutes per hour all > day long. Nearly all of the spots were locally produced and > prerecorded using music and effects from several suppliers. The > transmitter location, southwest of Schenectady, kept the signal from > really penetrating Albany or Troy, but Schenectady was booming then > and WSNY was doing better serving just the one city than most of the > larger stations did trying to serve all of them. I remember getting WZSNY quite well in Guilderland. > 1460 (then WOKO), in particular, had a very down-at-the-heels sound. > It was the plaything of its owner, Col Jim Healy, a local Rush > Limbaugh of his day. He used to broadcast ultra-right-wing > commentaries, which he voiced himself, in tones and cadences not > unlike Limbaugh's. Of course, there were no call-ins, and Healy's > commentaries ran only about 15 minutes but I think he recorded them > and rebroadcast at around 6:00 PM the ones that ran live at noon. > Healy certainly LOOKED the part, a distinguished-looking, > silver-haired, significantly overweight, sixty-ish gent who, IIRC, > liked expensive cigars. What I remember hearing on WOKO was a regular hour every evening of Elvis Presley. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Jun 17 00:52:06 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 00:52:06 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors In-Reply-To: <018501c6918c$2b7d51c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <44935236.24952.6BF72A@localhost> On 16 Jun 2006 at 17:31, Doug Drown wrote: > What about WBZ and WMEX, in the pre-WRKO days? WBZ was always the big > Top 40 station in eastern New England when I was growing up, but did > 'MEX give it much competition in the Boston metro area? (We never > could get 'MEX out near Fitchburg.) I had trouble getting WMEX in my section of Bedford. As I recall, when I was in law school, I would have WMEX on the car radio as I was driving home, and the signal would suddenly fade as I turned off the main road to my neighborhood. What about WCOP in its days as a top-40 station? While it was the station we all listened to in Bedford, I assume it dropped the format because wasn't doing well with it. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Sat Jun 17 07:38:16 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:38:16 -0400 Subject: Top 40 competitors References: <44935236.24952.6BF72A@localhost> Message-ID: <01c701c69202$86c64b10$6401a8c0@pastor2> Growing up in Ashburnham --- 55 miles west of Boston --- I could pick up WABC all day (quite well, I might add), as well as WPTR most of the time. (Its signal would fade in and out; there was always some interference.) WMEX, on the other hand, didn't come in at all. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Doug Drown" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest Board" Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:52 AM Subject: Re: Top 40 competitors > On 16 Jun 2006 at 17:31, Doug Drown wrote: > > > What about WBZ and WMEX, in the pre-WRKO days? WBZ was always the big > > Top 40 station in eastern New England when I was growing up, but did > > 'MEX give it much competition in the Boston metro area? (We never > > could get 'MEX out near Fitchburg.) > > I had trouble getting WMEX in my section of Bedford. As I recall, > when I was in law school, I would have WMEX on the car radio as I was > driving home, and the signal would suddenly fade as I turned off the > main road to my neighborhood. > > What about WCOP in its days as a top-40 station? While it was the > station we all listened to in Bedford, I assume it dropped the format > because wasn't doing well with it. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Jun 18 00:03:12 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 00:03:12 -0400 Subject: WCAP 55th Birthday Party Report__Berkshires In-Reply-To: <44935236.156.6BF68A@localhost> References: <005a01c6915a$bebbca20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <44949840.20399.5880DF@localhost> On 17 Jun 2006 at 0:52, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > I remember getting WZSNY quite well in Guilderland. Oops! Where'd that Z come from? That should have read WSNY. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From readaaron@friedbagels.com Mon Jun 19 12:09:06 2006 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:09:06 -0400 Subject: WBOQ reach in to Boston Message-ID: <4496CC22.8070504@friedbagels.com> WBOQ would have a halfway decent Boston reach (at least in car radios) if it weren't for WRBB at Northeastern University. Of course, WRBB is not going to go anywhere anytime soon...Northeastern has invested a fair amount in the studios there recently, and the students love having their own station. That said, the students, and NEU, are under no illusions that their signal is terrible. It's smacked around by WBOQ, WWLI and even WXLO (to some degree) and really smacked down by all the blanketing interference from the Pru. WRBB certainly wouldn't mind moving to a better frequency if the cost to them wasn't outrageous. Personally if there was such a thing as a small, relatively cheap 24/7 AM station for sale in Boston, it'd probably be perfect for them. Get away from that blanketing issue anyways. Or actually what might be a realistic plan, would be for WBOQ to pay for WRBB to rent exclusive use of a Pru FM's HD-2 multicast channel, with the understanding that within X years (say 5 years...that's enough for HD radios to start getting on the market) that WRBB will abandon 104.9 and shut it down, so WBOQ can then get into Boston. Or, I wonder if WFNX would particularly mind if WRBB moved to 101.3FM? Obviously that's not a great frequency for WRBB - it's still got blanketing problems and there's a strong second adjacent. But it can't be worse than 104.9 is. -- -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com www.friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02176 Fried Bagels - Broadcast Radio & Web Engineering & Operations Consultant From readaaron@friedbagels.com Mon Jun 19 11:54:54 2006 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:54:54 -0400 Subject: WBOQ vs. WATD Message-ID: <4496C8CE.6040800@friedbagels.com> I know almost nothing about WATD's (or WBOQ's) finances, but I suspect that there's two "secret weapons" that WATD has over WBOQ. First is that Ed Perry is amazingly involved in the local community; not just in terms of operation of his station's programming and the usual charitable work and his hosting the TIC/RRS in his station...but also in terms of all the work he does in frequency coordination for two-way radio services, RPU's, fire, police, etc etc etc. I suspect there's some consulting money there...but the real value is that the man is tied in very well with the entire community on a wide range of levels - that means lots of good advertising contacts. Second is that AFAIK, WATD owns the tower right near their studio building. I think they own the tower their transmitter is on, too. That means they can get tower rent from the former and avoid paying tower rent on the latter. No doubt both help the bottom line quite a bit. Mind you, I think Ed Perry walks on water and is the best thing since sliced bread. :-) An awful lot of the stations I work with owe him everything they are today! So I'm very happy to see how well WATD does year after year. -- -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com www.friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02176 Fried Bagels - Broadcast Radio & Web Engineering & Operations Consultant From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:06:19 2006 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WATD, WBOQ and WRBB (was Re: WBOQ reach in to Boston) In-Reply-To: <4496CC22.8070504@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <20060619180620.16701.qmail@web50804.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Aaron (and crew): First, WATD. I totally agree with you Aaron. Ed Perry is excellent in what he does. He's a great Consulting Engineer. Many a college station can, for the more than likely, can thank Ed for putting their station on the air and keeping them on the air. If it were not Ed and his Educational FM Associates, many of the 10 watters would have died on the vine after the 1978 ruling that all 10 watters had to increase to 100 watts (Class A) or try to find a spot in Commercial Band (92.1 - 107.9) and stay at 10 watts. WATD is a fine local service operation that super-serves the entire South Shore area. It is an Award Winning operation, literally. Check the walls of WATD sometime and you'll see what I mean! Ed Perry is also a person who truly enjoys radio, not just for the money making aspect of it but rather the fun and excitement of owning a real life FM station. He's a true radio-junkie, and I mean that in positive sense. He's also a very decent person. I've had many opportunities to meet with Ed over the past 20 or so years. As for WBOQ, I truly enjoy the oldies format they run presently. It's a great alternative to Oldies 103.3 as they play more of the deeper cuts that WODS would never play. I'm sure that "North Shore 104.9" has a substantial following, North of Boston. It covers many sections of the South of Boston area quite comfortably, as well. It's too bad that Northeastern University's WRBB was not given the opportunity to get WFNX's 101.3 translator operation when 'FNX moved in town. The 101.3 signal would actually improve WRBB's coverage all over town, instead of the limited coverage it has in the Back Bay on 104.9. It would be nice to see if 'RBB could get some signal improvement by getting the old 101.3 operation back on-line. But, that will probably not happen anytime soon. In spite of the limited coverage on 104.9, WRBB "Radio Back Bay" has a VERY dedicated following in and around the Back Bay. I belive that they also stream as well. Oh, well. That's a 30 for now! -Pete --- Aaron Read wrote: > WBOQ would have a halfway decent Boston reach (at > least in car radios) > if it weren't for WRBB at Northeastern University. > > Of course, WRBB is not going to go anywhere anytime > soon...Northeastern > has invested a fair amount in the studios there > recently, and the > students love having their own station. > > That said, the students, and NEU, are under no > illusions that their > signal is terrible. It's smacked around by WBOQ, > WWLI and even WXLO (to > some degree) and really smacked down by all the > blanketing interference > from the Pru. > > WRBB certainly wouldn't mind moving to a better > frequency if the cost to > them wasn't outrageous. Personally if there was > such a thing as a > small, relatively cheap 24/7 AM station for sale in > Boston, it'd > probably be perfect for them. Get away from that > blanketing issue anyways. > > Or actually what might be a realistic plan, would be > for WBOQ to pay for > WRBB to rent exclusive use of a Pru FM's HD-2 > multicast channel, with > the understanding that within X years (say 5 > years...that's enough for > HD radios to start getting on the market) that WRBB > will abandon 104.9 > and shut it down, so WBOQ can then get into Boston. > > Or, I wonder if WFNX would particularly mind if WRBB > moved to 101.3FM? > Obviously that's not a great frequency for WRBB - > it's still got > blanketing problems and there's a strong second > adjacent. But it can't > be worse than 104.9 is. > > -- > > -------------------------- > Aaron Read > readaaron@friedbagels.com > www.friedbagels.com > Boston, MA 02176 > > Fried Bagels - Broadcast Radio & Web > Engineering & Operations Consultant > > > > > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From francini@mac.com Mon Jun 19 15:38:22 2006 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:38:22 -0400 Subject: WBZ-AM "clock" deliberately running slowly? Message-ID: Is WBZ-AM's "clock" deliberately running a minute or two slow? I'm asking because I often will turn to WBZ while driving at exactly 3 past the hour, or exactly 10 past the hour, looking for either traffic or weather information, and will usually have to spend upwards of one to two minutes waiting for the specific info, before tuning back to wherever I came from. It almost seems as though they're deliberately 'running slow' to ensure you hear more commercials or some such. It's bad enough that their news is highly "pelletized" anyway -- you get a pellet of news, a pellet of commercial, another pellet of news, maybe even a second pellet, a commercial, a pellet of weather, etc., without the additional irritant of their running late... john From me@billoneill.us Mon Jun 19 16:24:32 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:24:32 -0400 Subject: WBZ-AM "clock" deliberately running slowly? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44970800.7000001@billoneill.us> John Francini wrote: > It's bad enough that their news is highly "pelletized" anyway -- you > get a pellet of news, a pellet of commercial, another pellet of news, > maybe even a second pellet, a commercial, a pellet of weather, etc., Definitely seems like the news blocks are styled more after 1010 WINS rather than WCBS 880's clock. Clearly lacking in even big-boy news stations are reports filed from the field, news in-depth. Bill O'Neill From francini@mac.com Mon Jun 19 17:22:34 2006 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:22:34 -0400 Subject: WBZ-AM "clock" deliberately running slowly? In-Reply-To: <44970800.7000001@billoneill.us> References: <44970800.7000001@billoneill.us> Message-ID: Indeed. A few weeks back while driving through the NYC area, we had 1010 WINS on for traffic. And wouldn't you know it but the exact same music bed was played under the traffic reporter. I've also heard the "Give us 22 minutes and we'll give you the world" on WBZ once or twice. Not as much of a staple as it is on WINS, but they're very definitely going in that direction. John At 16:24 -0400 6/19/06, Bill O'Neill wrote: >John Francini wrote: >>It's bad enough that their news is highly "pelletized" anyway -- >>you get a pellet of news, a pellet of commercial, another pellet of >>news, maybe even a second pellet, a commercial, a pellet of >>weather, etc., >Definitely seems like the news blocks are styled more after 1010 >WINS rather than WCBS 880's clock. Clearly lacking in even big-boy >news stations are reports filed from the field, news in-depth. > >Bill O'Neill -- John Francini, francini@mac.com "The journey is more important than the destination-that's part of life. If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always disappointed." -Donald Knuth From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jun 19 22:40:09 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:40:09 -0400 Subject: WBOQ reach in to Boston In-Reply-To: <4496CC22.8070504@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <449727C9.7260.463D01@localhost> On 19 Jun 2006 at 12:09, Aaron Read wrote: > WBOQ would have a halfway decent Boston reach (at least in car radios) > if it weren't for WRBB at Northeastern University. WBOQ used to get a better signal into some parts of Boston. I believe that a few years ago, they increased their power, but went to a directional antenna that beams away from Boston. That being the case, I'm not sure they'd get a good signal into Boston any more if, somehow, WRBB were to go away. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@csail.mit.edu Tue Jun 20 03:23:35 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:23:35 -0400 Subject: WBOQ reach in to Boston In-Reply-To: <449727C9.7260.463D01@localhost> References: <4496CC22.8070504@friedbagels.com> <449727C9.7260.463D01@localhost> Message-ID: <17559.41591.375384.575869@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > WBOQ used to get a better signal into some parts of Boston. I > believe that a few years ago, they increased their power, but went to > a directional antenna that beams away from Boston. Not surprising. WBOQ as it stands is short-spaced to 105.1 Providence and 104.7 Orleans. Orleans is not an issue, because all the interference takes place over water, but Providence definitely is, and WBOQ from its current site is limited to 1.3 kW in a broad arc towards Providence (which, of course, is also towards Boston from Gloucester). It's also within inches of full spacing from co-channel WLKZ up in Wolfeboro, N.H. Given the current constraints, WBOQ's signal is about as good as it can be. Here's how to fix WBOQ. First of all, you need to convince Entercom to reallocate WMKK to Gloucester. (This just barely fits.) Then WBOQ is no longer "first local" to Gloucester, and can thus be reallocated to Ipswich (which can theoretically be served from the current transmitter location, although not with the current 3-kW facilities. But because WBOQ is currently fully-spaced with respect to WLKZ, it could send 6 kW in that direction, so it all works out. There's probably no need to actually build this facility. >From a tower located near exit 55 on I-95, 104.9 is fully-spaced to both Providence and Orleans, although this now makes it short to WLKZ. This does work as a 73.215 with a directional antenna (and probably not much of one thanks to the terrain). The result: you upgrade to a full 6 kW, get rid of that pesky null to the southwest, and a 54 that encompasses the entire North Shore (and can't be encroached upon thanks to WWLI and WKPE-FM) and most of the Merrimack Valley. OK, allocations wizards: tell me why this doesn't work. -GAWollman From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Jun 20 15:50:32 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:50:32 -0400 Subject: WBOQ reach in to Boston Message-ID: > > From: "Peter Q. George" > To: Aaron Read , > boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:06:19 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: WATD, WBOQ and WRBB > > It's too bad that Northeastern University's WRBB > was not given the opportunity to get WFNX's 101.3 > translator operation when 'FNX moved in town. The > 101.3 signal would actually improve WRBB's coverage > all over town, instead of the limited coverage it has > in the Back Bay on 104.9. It would be nice to see if > 'RBB could get some signal improvement by getting the > old 101.3 operation back on-line. I'm not sure, but I think I read that the new WFNX signal from Financial Place prevents operation of their old 101.3 translator due to its close physical proximity as a second adjacent. The old Medford/Malden line WFNX site was much farther from the 101.3 translator than their new main site which is perhaps only a mile away within the city. WFNX obviously discontinued the translator because, with their new site, it was no longer of any additional benefit to them, but it may also be that the location of their new site would prohibit the second-adjacent translator on the Hancock from operating at all, under any ownership. EP From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Jun 20 22:46:06 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:06 -0400 Subject: All Access hints at WKLB freq switch Message-ID: <1fbbbced0606201946v3187666ctfca2db94f474b2d2@mail.gmail.com> Latest All Access says that while both parties haven't made it official yet, it looks like Greater Media will move country WKLB to 102.5 with Nassau most likely grabbing the 99.5 and the intellectual property of WCRB as well. Whether they'll keep classical there or not remains to be seen. http://www.allacess.com From hmglaz@webtv.net Wed Jun 21 01:07:14 2006 From: hmglaz@webtv.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 01:07:14 -0400 Subject: WBOQ reach into Boston Message-ID: <24479-4498D402-1883@storefull-3331.bay.webtv.net> Peter Q. George wrote: >As for WBOQ, I truly enjoy the oldies > format they run presently. It's a great > alternative to Oldies 103.3 as they play > more of the deeper cuts that WODS > would never play. I'm sure that "North > Shore 104.9" has a substantial > following, North of Boston. It covers > many sections of the South of Boston > area quite comfortably, as well. I'm a WBOQ fan, too, it being my station of choice when visiting family in Swampscott. It plays many of the "deeper" oldies that I enjoy back here in Connecticut on WDRC-FM, although, as a gold=based AC rather than an oldies or classic hits station, it shies away from anything that rocks too hard. I can get WBOQ from Swampscott all the way to Union, Conn., on my car radio. The signal gets flaky past Framingham and drops out at times in the Grafton/Oxford area, but I was listening to it just fine in the Charlton service area parking lot on the Mass Pike yesterday. The signal was still there along I'-84 until the long downgrade just past the Connecticut line, after which there's nothing to be heard on 104.9 until WihS Middletown starts to come in around Mansfield. Howard From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Jun 21 08:58:18 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:58:18 -0400 Subject: All Access hints at WKLB freq switch In-Reply-To: <44989E9F.26955.94645A@localhost> References: <1fbbbced0606201946v3187666ctfca2db94f474b2d2@mail.gmail.com> <44989E9F.26955.94645A@localhost> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0606210558y7d6d771dkef1360f490a2cf75@mail.gmail.com> On 6/21/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > There's nothing at that URL but a page that says that the domain > allacess.com has been reserved. I think you mean > http://www.allaccess.com . Yes--one of the strange things about the Net is that sometimes not typing the "www" will get you to a site anyway, but sometimes it won't! I stand corrected. From Joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 21 12:21:53 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:21:53 -0400 Subject: All Access hints at WKLB freq switch In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0606210558y7d6d771dkef1360f490a2cf75@mail.gmail.com> References: <44989E9F.26955.94645A@localhost> Message-ID: <449939E1.4608.2B0B23@localhost> On 21 Jun 2006 Bob Nelson wrote: > On 6/21/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > > There's nothing at that URL but a page that says that the domain > > allacess.com has been reserved. I think you mean > > http://www.allaccess.com . > > Yes--one of the strange things about the Net is that sometimes not > typing the "www" will get you to a site anyway, but sometimes it > won't! I stand corrected. It has nothing to do with the www. It has to do with a second "c" in "allaccess." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Jun 21 17:33:29 2006 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:33:29 -0500 Subject: All Access hints at WKLB freq switch Message-ID: <20060621213329.BB36ACA0C6@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Nelson" > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: All Access hints at WKLB freq switch > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:06 -0400 > > > Latest All Access says that while both parties haven't made it > official yet, it looks like Greater Media will move country WKLB to > 102.5 with Nassau most likely grabbing the 99.5 and the intellectual > property of WCRB as well. Whether they'll keep classical there or not > remains to be seen. > I checked fcc.gov again and it APPEARS that WCRB has not yet received a license renewal (it still says license good through April 1, 2006); WFCC, also owned by Charles River was renewed. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 22 01:07:15 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:07:15 -0400 Subject: WBOQ reach in to Boston Message-ID: <4499ED43.1870.7023C5@localhost> On 20 Jun 2006 at 3:23, Garrett Wollman wrote: > The result: you upgrade to a full 6 kW, get rid of that pesky null > to the southwest, and a 54 that encompasses the entire North Shore > (and can't be encroached upon thanks to WWLI and WKPE-FM) and most > of the Merrimack Valley. If you are going to "fix" WBOQ, you have to find a way for it to get a decent signal in Boston, and you can't do that without somehow getting WRBB off that frequency or getting WBOQ to another frequency. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 22 01:07:16 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:07:16 -0400 Subject: All Access hints at WKLB freq switch In-Reply-To: <20060621213329.BB36ACA0C6@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4499ED44.1635.70247F@localhost> On 21 Jun 2006 at 16:33, Laurence Glavin wrote: > I checked fcc.gov again and it APPEARS that WCRB has not yet received > a license renewal (it still says license good through April 1, 2006); > WFCC, also owned by Charles River was renewed. What is Charles River going to do with WFCC? Are they going to keep it or is it also being sold? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 22 01:07:16 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:07:16 -0400 Subject: All Access hints at WKLB freq switch Message-ID: <4499ED44.1473.7026A0@localhost> On 20 Jun 2006 at 22:46, Bob Nelson wrote: > Latest All Access says that while both parties haven't made it > official yet, it looks like Greater Media will move country WKLB to > 102.5 with Nassau most likely grabbing the 99.5 and the intellectual > property of WCRB as well. Whether they'll keep classical there or > not remains to be seen. > > http://www.allacess.com There's nothing at that URL but a page that says that the domain allacess.com has been reserved. I think you mean http://www.allaccess.com . -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From nostaticatall@comcast.net Thu Jun 22 04:23:51 2006 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 04:23:51 -0400 Subject: All Access hints at WKLB freq switch In-Reply-To: <4499ED44.1635.70247F@localhost> References: <4499ED44.1635.70247F@localhost> Message-ID: <6312335d02e810b984e01e1c52a57bf6@comcast.net> My guess is that Nassau will wind up with that property as well. They already own three FMs on the Cape (the two Franks and WPXC) and they have room to add another to that cluster, so it would make sense to include 107.5 in the same transaction as 99.5. They also own the W-Bach stations up in Maine which already use the WCRB syndicated service, so they may just keep the classical going for awhile on all the stations. --Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Jun 22, 2006, at 1:07 AM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 21 Jun 2006 at 16:33, Laurence Glavin wrote: > >> I checked fcc.gov again and it APPEARS that WCRB has not yet received >> a license renewal (it still says license good through April 1, 2006); >> WFCC, also owned by Charles River was renewed. > > What is Charles River going to do with WFCC? Are they going to keep > it or is it also being sold? From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Jun 23 00:54:22 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:54:22 -0400 Subject: All Access hints at WKLB freq switch In-Reply-To: <6312335d02e810b984e01e1c52a57bf6@comcast.net> References: <4499ED44.1635.70247F@localhost> Message-ID: <449B3BBE.5262.364ADD@localhost> On 22 Jun 2006 at 4:23, David Tomm wrote: > My guess is that Nassau will wind up with that property as well. They > already own three FMs on the Cape (the two Franks and WPXC) and they > have room to add another to that cluster, so it would make sense to > include 107.5 in the same transaction as 99.5. They also own the > W-Bach stations up in Maine which already use the WCRB syndicated > service, so they may just keep the classical going for awhile on all > the stations. Well, we can hope. We've heard that WCRB has been quite profitable, though it may not do quite as well on the 99.5 signal. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From ssmyth@suscom.net Fri Jun 23 10:02:40 2006 From: ssmyth@suscom.net (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:02:40 -0400 Subject: All Access hints at WKLB freq switch In-Reply-To: <449B3BBE.5262.364ADD@localhost> References: <4499ED44.1635.70247F@localhost> <449B3BBE.5262.364ADD@localhost> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:54:22 -0400 "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: >Well, we can hope. We've heard that WCRB has been quite >profitable, >though it may not do quite as well on the 99.5 signal. See, this is what I don't understand -- while people say classical can be a money-losing format, I would think it would generate healthy profits for a number of reasons, including: -- aren't the most popular pieces in the public domain? wouldn't that mean little to no money headed toward music licensing? -- voice-tracked programming, like WCRB does, now is fairly easy to pull off -- the stereotypical upscale audiences should be a gold mine for advertisers. maybe not the typical ads we hear on radio for the Coca-Colas of the world, but many classical listeners have healthy disposable incomes (even if some are beyond the 25-54 age bracket). I must be missing something here. Even with ridiculous debt service, I would imagine the format would make a healthy profit in many markets by being the only (commercial) game in town for that particular demo. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 02:10:30 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 02:10:30 -0400 Subject: All Access hints at WKLB freq switch References: <4499ED44.1635.70247F@localhost> <449B3BBE.5262.364ADD@localhost> Message-ID: <033001c6968b$c38f3240$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > > My guess is that Nassau will wind up with that property as well. They > > already own three FMs on the Cape (the two Franks and WPXC) and they > > have room to add another to that cluster, so it would make sense to > > They also own the > > W-Bach stations up in Maine which already use the WCRB syndicated > > service, so they may just keep the classical going for awhile on all > > the stations. > > Well, we can hope. We've heard that WCRB has been quite profitable, > though it may not do quite as well on the 99.5 signal. The real question to be answered is...How much did Nassau pay for 99.5 and for the WCRB intellectual property? THAT will indicate what they will have to make for a profit. Typically, an asset has to justify it's existance. Do we know what Nassau is paying for the property? From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Jun 23 20:18:39 2006 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:18:39 -0400 Subject: FM Reception Message-ID: <000601c69723$c13f2bb0$3c9e05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> While driving around today in the Augusta area, I had problems picking up more distant FM stations that I can usually listen to in that area like WMCM and WPOR. At one point, even WBLM was coming in poorly. I could get the local stations without a problem. Is the problem with my car radio? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Sat Jun 24 07:06:45 2006 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:06:45 -0400 Subject: FM Reception References: <000601c69723$c13f2bb0$3c9e05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <001101c6977e$47cb3110$a7483518@DG07P241> Good question as I recently experienced a similar problem. WOMR FM 92.1 Provincetown is always loud and clear while I listen as I'm driving up the South Shore. It remains so into Marshfield. Last Sunday around mid-day there was irritating interference - which became overtaking - with the signal starting in Plymouth. Have conditions been unsettled recently? Paul Sandwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 8:18 PM Subject: FM Reception > While driving around today in the Augusta area, I had problems picking up > more distant FM stations that I can usually listen to in that area like WMCM > and WPOR. At one point, even WBLM was coming in poorly. I could get the > local stations without a problem. Is the problem with my car radio? > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Jun 24 13:06:07 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:06:07 -0400 Subject: New Hampshire radio Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20060624125636.0bec9838@pop.registeredsite.com> Finishing up an article about New Hampshire radio, and was curious as to whether I've missed any changes in the market. I've talked to a few of you already about the arrival of conglomerate owners like Nassau Broadcasting and the departure of most of the individual owners (in the 1980s, there were actually some local owners, but these days, that seems to apply to only a handful of stations like WKXL-- hi Tony!). Any other interesting trends in NH radio that come to mind? When I listen in the market, both southern and mid-state, I still can hear the dominance of country radio-- WOKQ has been at the top of the ratings for a long time, although they have more competition these days; but over the past several years, whenever I listen in the market, I hear a lot of stations that sound like they could be from anywhere, rather than uniquely from New Hampshire. (I used to think of NH as a market with stations that were unique to the region, even if they did mass-appeal formats like AC or country or top-40.) I do still hear some local contesting and local PSAs, but I also hear what sounds like much more voice-tracking and automation, outside of morning drive. Am I hearing things incorrectly? From rogerkola@aol.com Sat Jun 24 13:32:14 2006 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:32:14 -0400 Subject: FM Reception References: <000601c69723$c13f2bb0$3c9e05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <001101c6977e$47cb3110$a7483518@DG07P241> Message-ID: <004001c697b4$23c8afa0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> I am one of the remaining people in New England who gets his TV signals off of a big rotatable yagi on the roof...in the last several weeks, I've noticed "herringbone" patterns on some of the local VHF signals which usually indicates "ducting" or "skip." As the TV channels here in Boston bracket the FM band, such conditions would also exist on FM Broadcast making things "weird" as the FM "capture" effect tries to take over. BTW, I can report that I receive 20 "watchable" channels from on the air TV, although I sure wish the Spanish formats would have English subtitles! ;-) Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Currier" To: "Daniel Billings" ; Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: Re: FM Reception > Good question as I recently experienced a similar problem. WOMR FM 92.1 > Provincetown is always loud and clear while I listen as I'm driving up the > South Shore. It remains so into Marshfield. Last Sunday around mid-day > there was irritating interference - which became overtaking - with the > signal starting in Plymouth. Have conditions been unsettled recently? > > Paul > Sandwich > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Billings" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 8:18 PM > Subject: FM Reception > > > > While driving around today in the Augusta area, I had problems picking up > > more distant FM stations that I can usually listen to in that area like > WMCM > > and WPOR. At one point, even WBLM was coming in poorly. I could get the > > local stations without a problem. Is the problem with my car radio? > > > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > > > > > > > > > > From rjoc@webtv.net Sat Jun 24 14:09:36 2006 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:09:36 GMT Subject: FM Reception Message-ID: <20060624180937.1978D2B0C2@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> FM DX reception has been interesting here on the DownEast Coast too..Many of the FMs from New Brunswick and Nova Scotia have been coming in with local quality here since Thursday..even interfering with some of the stronger Bangor FMs here. I usually get fringe reception of St. John NB FMs, but for past couple days they have been much stronger.. I should break out my 80's vintage portable B&W TV and see how VHF/UHF conditions are too. The TV even goes up to UHF Chan.83. Another indicator is traffic on my scanner, When I get VHF Marine FM (156.8-157.3mhz) from Halifax and Yarmouth NS, that's a definite sign of good DX! These warm muggy conditions are often good for DXing here... Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From miscon@miscon.net Sun Jun 25 09:13:38 2006 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:13:38 -0400 Subject: 99.5 Message-ID: <200606250913.AA2457010400@miscon.net> Just having some fun here... I think that Mr. Lerner's ownership of the phrase "Easy Favorites of Yesterday and Today" is probably over. Could Jordan Rich be persuaded to give up weekend overnights at WBZ to go back to being a morning drive personality? See where I'm going? I can see the billboards now... "Your WSSH has been answered! The return of 99.5 - Easy Favorites of Yesterday and Today." Oh, sure... the call sign dilemma... pffft. Throw a couple dollars at that too... Again, just a little bit of fun - and maybe even just as accurate as some of the other serious speculation going on here ;) Mike From lwalus@cheerful.com Sun Jun 25 22:21:33 2006 From: lwalus@cheerful.com (Lee Walus) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:21:33 +0500 Subject: Air America in Boston Message-ID: <20060626022133.54DDB83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Air America in the Boston (WXKS/WKOX) seems to have dropped off the page at Radio and Records. From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Jun 25 23:42:07 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:42:07 -0400 Subject: Air America in Boston In-Reply-To: <20060626022133.54DDB83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <449F1F4F.1872.15944B2@localhost> On 26 Jun 2006 at 7:21, Lee Walus wrote: > Air America in the Boston (WXKS/WKOX) seems to have dropped off the > page at Radio and Records. What's Radio and Records? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From nostaticatall@comcast.net Mon Jun 26 00:05:48 2006 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:05:48 -0400 Subject: Air America in Boston In-Reply-To: <449F1F4F.1872.15944B2@localhost> References: <449F1F4F.1872.15944B2@localhost> Message-ID: It's a trade magazine for radio and the recording industries. Their website www.radioandrecords.com, is a popular place to go for breaking radio news and Arbitron ratings data. --Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Jun 25, 2006, at 11:42 PM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 26 Jun 2006 at 7:21, Lee Walus wrote: > >> Air America in the Boston (WXKS/WKOX) seems to have dropped off the >> page at Radio and Records. > > What's Radio and Records? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Jun 26 00:23:13 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:23:13 -0400 Subject: Air America in Boston Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20060626002252.02e98e18@pop.registeredsite.com> At 07:21 AM 6/26/2006 +0500, Lee wrote: >Air America in the Boston (WXKS/WKOX) seems to have dropped off the page >at Radio and Records. They don't do well in the winter book because their signal doesn't even cover Boston until daylight savings time ends. I can't even hear them unless I listen on the internet. Fortunately, they've finally gotten permission to raise power, so that ought to help. From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jun 26 00:24:04 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:24:04 -0400 Subject: radio and records Message-ID: <449F2924.16533.17FAE8D@localhost> Thank you to the several people who answered my question about radio and records. It looks like an interesting site. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Jun 26 00:41:03 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:41:03 -0400 Subject: Air America in Boston In-Reply-To: <20060626022133.54DDB83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20060626003346.02ecbda8@pop.registeredsite.com> According to Talkers magazine, the Ed Schultz Show is now in the top 10-- Ed has nearly 100 affiliates and has a weekly cume of over 2.25 million, which is what the much better known Don Imus and Kim Komando have... Ed isn't AAR (he's Jones, but he's on a lot of AAR stations.) As I said, and I am NOT making excuses for them-- in Boston, as in a number of other cities, AAR affiliates are still on weak signals with minimal promotion. But AAR is holding at 88 affiliates and Mike Harrison of Talkers said in an interview with the Atlanta Journal Constitution that the format seems to be slowly and steadily gaining strength in a number of markets. However, until they get a signal that covers Boston, I don't expect much in the way of ratings-- they've been getting about a .04 or .05 in the book when they have to go to their night pattern around 5pm. From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jun 26 00:43:11 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:43:11 -0400 Subject: Air America in Boston In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20060626002252.02e98e18@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <449F2D9F.17969.1912D3E@localhost> On 26 Jun 2006 at 0:23, Donna Halper wrote: > They don't do well in the winter book because their signal doesn't > even cover Boston until daylight savings time ends. I can't even hear > them unless I listen on the internet. Fortunately, they've finally > gotten permission to raise power, so that ought to help. When will the power increase happen? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jun 26 00:43:10 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:43:10 -0400 Subject: Air America in Boston In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20060626003346.02ecbda8@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <20060626022133.54DDB83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <449F2D9E.24462.1912C8E@localhost> On 26 Jun 2006 at 0:41, Donna Halper wrote: > they've been getting about a .04 or .05 in the book when they have to > go to their night pattern around 5pm. They go to night pattern arount 5pm at THIS time of year?? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Jun 26 01:15:05 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:15:05 -0400 Subject: Air America in Boston In-Reply-To: <449F2D9E.24462.1912C8E@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20060626003346.02ecbda8@pop.registeredsite.com> <20060626022133.54DDB83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20060626011338.02ee0aa8@pop.registeredsite.com> >Joe asked== > >They go to night pattern arount 5pm at THIS time of year?? No, now that it's summer, they are on the air till at least 8pm with their good signal, taking them through afternoon drive at least. But the most recent ratings were done when they were still on that gawd-awful winter signal. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Jun 26 12:26:19 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:26:19 -0400 Subject: Air America in Boston In-Reply-To: <200606261456.k5QEuW1H004432@inbound-mx1.atl.registeredsite .com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20060626003346.02ecbda8@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20060626122526.02ed4878@pop.registeredsite.com> At 10:56 AM 6/26/2006 -0400, Charlie Profit wrote: >Schultz is actually owned by Democracy Radio, in which Randy Michaels >(formerly of Clear Channel and Jacor) has a stake. Jones distributes the >show. Visit this link for more info: Yes, as I said in my previous post,he is distributed by Jones-- Democracy Radio no longer exists and he is owned by Product First, a company run by former Clear Channel exec Randy Michaels. From elipolo@earthlink.net Mon Jun 26 14:04:05 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:04:05 -0400 Subject: Air America in Boston Message-ID: > > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > CC: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > To: Donna Halper > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:43:11 -0400 > Subject: Re: Air America in Boston > > On 26 Jun 2006 at 0:23, Donna Halper wrote: > > > Fortunately, they've finally gotten permission to raise power, > > so that ought to help. > > When will the power increase happen? This "power increase" (for WKOX 1200 only) is the controversial new five-tower array which is finally beginning to be built in the Oak Hill section of Newton, near the West Roxbury line. This has been discussed here many times over the years. It's a new five-tower site being constructed at the present two-tower transmitter site of WUNR (1600), scheduled to accommodate power increases for WUNR, as well as WRCA (1330) who will move their transmitter from Waltham, and WKOX, which will move it's site from Framingham. At a proposed and approved 50 kW, WKOX will be the most powerful from the new site. The FCC granted approval for this site a number of years ago, but the City of Newton zoning board resisted approval due to community opposition to the towers. Newton finally granted approval last year, but it's going to take time to build the towers and the complicated directional antenna systems for all three stations. Dan Strassberg recently posted an essay here addressing many of the potential time-consuming technicalities of the project. It's not known when this new site will be done, and on the air. The earliest guesstimates and rumors have been for perhaps this fall, though I don't know how likely that really is. There is no power increase planned for WXKS 1430. I don't think there's much they could do to augment their power or their very directional night pattern on that frequency. And, that has also sparked speculation about formatting. Assuming that Progressive Talk (Air America, etc...) stays on WKOX 1200 following their power increase to 50 kW (which seems likely but NOT necessarily a given), then there would no longer be any use in simulcasting on 1430. The new 1200 signal will cover everywhere 1430 covers. If AAR, etc... stays on 1200, then some other format may end up on 1430 (perhaps brokered ethnic). EP From Joe@attorneyross.com Mon Jun 26 14:07:21 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:07:21 -0400 Subject: Air America in Boston In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <449FEA19.18749.5E7B67@localhost> On 26 Jun 2006 Eli Polonsky wrote: > There is no power increase planned for WXKS 1430. I don't think > there's much they could do to augment their power or their very > directional night pattern on that frequency. And, that has also > sparked speculation about formatting. Assuming that Progressive > Talk (Air America, etc...) stays on WKOX 1200 following their > power increase to 50 kW (which seems likely but NOT necessarily > a given), then there would no longer be any use in simulcasting > on 1430. The new 1200 signal will cover everywhere 1430 covers. > If AAR, etc... stays on 1200, then some other format may end up > on 1430 (perhaps brokered ethnic). I don't suppose they might bring back Music of Your Life. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Jun 26 14:57:50 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:57:50 -0400 Subject: Air America in Boston In-Reply-To: <449FEA19.18749.5E7B67@localhost> References: <449FEA19.18749.5E7B67@localhost> Message-ID: <17568.11822.316568.751365@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I don't suppose they might bring back Music of Your Life. The only reason Clear Channel ever bought it was that it came as a package (when Clear Channel merged with Chancellor which got it from Evergreen which got it from Pyramid along with Kiss). I would not be at all surprised to see them lease it out to someone; I know they can't do much to improve the signal, but it may be more trouble to sell than it's worth. -GAWollman From nostaticatall@comcast.net Mon Jun 26 15:09:02 2006 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:09:02 -0400 Subject: Air America in Boston In-Reply-To: <17568.11822.316568.751365@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <449FEA19.18749.5E7B67@localhost> <17568.11822.316568.751365@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <61c0f59e7716d0e271d60b77ca774084@comcast.net> I would assume you mean 1430, which would not be needed to simulcast WKOX once the move & power increase to 1200 happens. I doubt the standards would come back, as the demos are difficult to sell, even if some cume is there. I suppose leasing it out or selling the signal outright could be a possibility for Clear Channel--or maybe they'd put on an automated or satellite Spanish language format and see what they could do with that. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Jun 26, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> I don't suppose they might bring back Music of Your Life. > > The only reason Clear Channel ever bought it was that it came as a > package > (when Clear Channel merged with Chancellor which got it from Evergreen > which got it from Pyramid along with Kiss). > > I would not be at all surprised to see them lease it out to someone; I > know they can't do much to improve the signal, but it may be more > trouble to sell than it's worth. > > -GAWollman > From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Jun 26 18:42:19 2006 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:42:19 -0500 Subject: Air America in Boston Message-ID: <20060626224219.6F64ECA0C3@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lee Walus" > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: Air America in Boston > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:21:33 +0500 > > > Air America in the Boston (WXKS/WKOX) seems to have dropped off the > page at Radio and Records. > Yes, but maybe they can turn out an audience. Saturday night (06/24) I went to "Laughing Liberally" at the Jimmy Tingle (real name) Off-Broadway Theater at Davis Square, Somerville. It's a good thing I ordered my tickets ahead-of-time...there was a sign in front of the theater that the 7:30 pm show was sold-out, latecomers would have to wait for the second show at 10:00p pm. J.T. was the MC of the show featuring some first-rate left\leaning comics. At the beginning of his own regular show ("Jimmy Tingle's America" which I saw last fall) and again Saturday night, he asks the audience what medium caused them to show up and spend some moolah for tickets. First he mentioned the two dailies plus the Phoenix, then Air America Radio. I can testify that AAR got the largest number of raised hands Including mine). BTW, speaking of the JTOBT, I noticed that on Wednesday, July 19th, they're going to put on a "Rex TRailers Boomtown" retrospective. I never got RTB, but I've noticed that there are some fans out there, so herewith the notice handed out to patrons last weekend: Film Screening and Reunion with Rex Trailer! This July, the Emmy(tm)- nominated documentary about Rex Trailer and his pioneering children's TV show screens at the JTOBT. The film features interviews with Jimmy Tingle, Steve Wright, Lenny Clark, Jay Leno, Mayor Tom Menino(!), and more. Tickets are $25 and include a free Redbones (a Davis Square eatery) buffet. Q&A with Rex Trailer and director Michael Bavaro follows the screening. That's Wednesday July 19th, ..6:00pm buffet; 7:30 pm film. For more info, visit http://www.jtoffbroadway.com For tickets, 1-866-811-4111; there's no handling charge. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Jun 27 10:44:41 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:44:41 -0400 Subject: Globe: Deal could keep WCRB classical (on 99.5) Message-ID: <1fbbbced0606270744q3c7f9763j1713f61b668a02e4@mail.gmail.com> http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2006/06/27/deal_could_keep_wcrb_classical/ "If all goes as planned, local classical music fans will be able to keep listening to their favorite radio programming on WCRB-FM. But instead of tuning into 102.5 as they now do, they'll turn to another frequency on the FM dial, 99.5...The Globe has learned that Greater Media is in negotiations to sell its 99.5 frequency -- currently country music station WKLB-FM -- to New Jersey-based Nassau Broadcasting. Greater Media would retain the WKLB call letters and country music format and switch them to 102.5, a stronger signal in Boston, said Heidi Raphael, Greater Media's director of corporate communications. In turn, Nassau hopes to launch a classical music format on 99.5 -- and then apply to the Federal Communications Commission for the WCRB call letters." Article says sale expected to be completed next month. From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 16:59:37 2006 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Globe: Deal could keep WCRB classical (on 99.5) In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0606270744q3c7f9763j1713f61b668a02e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060627205937.83319.qmail@web39110.mail.mud.yahoo.com> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:44:41 Bob Nelson replied to a boston.com article: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2006/06/27/deal_could_keep_wcrb_classical/ > > "If all goes as planned, local classical music fans > will be able to > keep listening to their favorite radio programming > on WCRB-FM. But > instead of tuning into 102.5 as they now do, they'll > turn to another > frequency on the FM dial, 99.5 Okay, so lets speculate for a minute that this deal does, in fact, go through and all changes mentioned here occur. Doesn't that blow apart the whole driving philosophy of having WKLB and the country format on 99.5 - that 99.5 covers an area where more country music fans are likely to be as opposed to downtown Boston? This concept has even been verified here on this list by Greater Media employees. Unless someone has numbers to show that philosophy does not work, this whole move seems rather silly to me, as one would expect the bulk of a classical music audience to be living near and around downtown Boston and its immediate suburbs. Unless, of course, Greater Media has other plans for 102.5's format that they're not letting on to at this time, which could change this whole scenario completely... Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Jun 27 17:34:30 2006 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:34:30 -0500 Subject: Globe: Deal could keep WCRB classical (on 99.5) Message-ID: <20060627213430.A974586B15@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Nelson" > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org, raccoonradio@gmail.com > Subject: Globe: Deal could keep WCRB classical (on 99.5) > Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:44:41 -0400 > > > http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2006/06/27/deal_could_keep_wcrb_classical/ > > "If all goes as planned, local classical music fans will be able to > keep listening to their favorite radio programming on WCRB-FM. But > instead of tuning into 102.5 as they now do, they'll turn to another > frequency on the FM dial, 99.5...The Globe has learned that Greater > Media is in negotiations to sell its 99.5 frequency -- currently > country music station WKLB-FM -- to New Jersey-based Nassau > Broadcasting. Greater Media would retain the WKLB call letters and > country music format and switch them to 102.5, a stronger signal in > Boston, said Heidi Raphael, Greater Media's director of corporate > communications. In turn, Nassau hopes to launch a classical music > format on 99.5 -- and then apply to the Federal Communications > Commission for the WCRB call letters." > > Article says sale expected to be completed next month. Greater Mediocrity of course is jettisoning WCRB's dreary, droning, dreck because, in spite of its ratings "success", the recent decline in its revenue (much less profit) wouldn't be nearly enough to pay the nut on the station's purchase price. So how could Nassau, paying somewhat less for 99.5, but still in the tens of millions, generate enough revenue to pay ITS nut if it retains the South St. Snoozer's format on a signal that will be spotty in The City? -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From scott@fybush.com Tue Jun 27 17:43:47 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:43:47 -0400 Subject: Globe: Deal could keep WCRB classical (on 99.5) In-Reply-To: <20060627213430.A974586B15@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060627213430.A974586B15@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <44A1A693.7000201@fybush.com> > Greater Mediocrity of course is jettisoning WCRB's dreary, > droning, dreck because, in spite of its ratings "success", the > recent decline in its revenue (much less profit) wouldn't be > nearly enough to pay the nut on the station's purchase > price. So how could Nassau, paying somewhat less for > 99.5, but still in the tens of millions, generate enough > revenue to pay ITS nut if it retains the South St. Snoozer's > format on a signal that will be spotty in The City? Why, they'll make it up in volume, of course! Remember that WCRB/World Classical Network already provides the programming for the four "W-Bach" stations Nassau owns in Maine, and it's likely that Nassau will end up with WFCC on Cape Cod as well by the time the dealing's done. So the theory would seem to be that the $$ being spent for WCRB will also bring Nassau a source of programming that it can use on other stations (the company's saying as many as ten more) in years to come. s From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Jun 27 17:48:44 2006 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:48:44 -0500 Subject: Globe: Deal could keep WCRB classical (on 99.5) Message-ID: <20060627214845.2DF0A86B15@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Fybush" > To: "Laurence Glavin" > Subject: Re: Globe: Deal could keep WCRB classical (on 99.5) > Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:43:47 -0400 > > > > Greater Mediocrity of course is jettisoning WCRB's dreary, > > droning, dreck because, in spite of its ratings "success", the > > recent decline in its revenue (much less profit) wouldn't be > > nearly enough to pay the nut on the station's purchase > > price. So how could Nassau, paying somewhat less for > > 99.5, but still in the tens of millions, generate enough revenue > > to pay ITS nut if it retains the South St. Snoozer's > > format on a signal that will be spotty in The City? > > Why, they'll make it up in volume, of course! > > Remember that WCRB/World Classical Network already provides the > programming for the four "W-Bach" stations Nassau owns in Maine, > and it's likely that Nassau will end up with WFCC on Cape Cod as > well by the time the dealing's done. So the theory would seem to be > that the $$ being spent for WCRB will also bring Nassau a source of > programming that it can use on other stations (the company's saying > as many as ten more) in years to come. > > s The radio biz doesn't seem to be improving; Nassau would have to keep costs REALLY low to generate a PROFIT that could go toward retiring this mortgage. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jun 27 17:55:58 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:55:58 -0400 Subject: WBOQ reach in to Boston References: <4496CC22.8070504@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <000001c69a38$2375b300$19eefea9@dstrassberg> WRBB could operate on 101.3 from One Financial Center. That move might be very worthwhile. I'm told that this would not be the first case of co-located second adjacents in the US. And since WRBB's protected contour might not even reach street level, there might be no measurable prohibited overlap with WFNX. The big issue, I suspect, would be the rent at OFC. WBOQ would probably have to agree to pay that. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Read" To: Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:09 PM Subject: WBOQ reach in to Boston > > Or, I wonder if WFNX would particularly mind if WRBB moved to 101.3FM? > Obviously that's not a great frequency for WRBB - it's still got > blanketing problems and there's a strong second adjacent. But it can't > be worse than 104.9 is. > > -- > > -------------------------- > Aaron Read > readaaron@friedbagels.com > www.friedbagels.com > Boston, MA 02176 > > Fried Bagels - Broadcast Radio & Web > Engineering & Operations Consultant > > > > From nostaticatall@comcast.net Tue Jun 27 23:26:50 2006 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:26:50 -0400 Subject: Globe: Deal could keep WCRB classical (on 99.5) In-Reply-To: <20060627214845.2DF0A86B15@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060627214845.2DF0A86B15@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <0b65f349468c59fea542c5ae451adf6b@comcast.net> The interesting thing is that Nassau is buying the intellectual property (and most likely the music library) of WCRB as well as the 99.5 signal. If classical does not pay the bills on the terrestrial station in years to come, they could easily keep the World Classical Network going on their other stations along with an internet stream, while changing the format of 99.5 or spinning it off (at most likely a decent profit) to Clear Channel, Salem or Entercom. If it works, great. If not, they'll make their money when they liquidate. There's little risk and much to gain for Nassau in any scenario. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Jun 27, 2006, at 5:48 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: >> >> Why, they'll make it up in volume, of course! >> >> Remember that WCRB/World Classical Network already provides the >> programming for the four "W-Bach" stations Nassau owns in Maine, >> and it's likely that Nassau will end up with WFCC on Cape Cod as >> well by the time the dealing's done. So the theory would seem to be >> that the $$ being spent for WCRB will also bring Nassau a source of >> programming that it can use on other stations (the company's saying >> as many as ten more) in years to come. >> >> s > > The radio biz doesn't seem to be improving; Nassau would have to keep > costs REALLY low to generate a PROFIT that could go toward retiring > this > mortgage. > From nostaticatall@comcast.net Tue Jun 27 22:58:28 2006 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:58:28 -0400 Subject: WBOQ reach in to Boston In-Reply-To: <000001c69a38$2375b300$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <4496CC22.8070504@friedbagels.com> <000001c69a38$2375b300$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: IIRC, a requirement for WFNX upgrading power and moving their stick was the deletion of the 101.3 translator. I thought this was discussed on this list when FNX's new transmitter started up awhile back. If that is the case, I doubt the FCC would allow for another facility to be started up on that frequency at this point. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Jun 27, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Dan Strassberg wrote: > WRBB could operate on 101.3 from One Financial Center. That move might > be > very worthwhile. I'm told that this would not be the first case of > co-located second adjacents in the US. And since WRBB's protected > contour > might not even reach street level, there might be no measurable > prohibited > overlap with WFNX. The big issue, I suspect, would be the rent at OFC. > WBOQ > would probably have to agree to pay that. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aaron Read" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:09 PM > Subject: WBOQ reach in to Boston > > >> >> Or, I wonder if WFNX would particularly mind if WRBB moved to 101.3FM? >> Obviously that's not a great frequency for WRBB - it's still got >> blanketing problems and there's a strong second adjacent. But it >> can't >> be worse than 104.9 is. >> >> -- >> >> -------------------------- >> Aaron Read >> readaaron@friedbagels.com >> www.friedbagels.com >> Boston, MA 02176 >> >> Fried Bagels - Broadcast Radio & Web >> Engineering & Operations Consultant >> >> >> >> > > From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 28 00:08:49 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:08:49 -0400 Subject: Globe: Deal could keep WCRB classical (on 99.5) In-Reply-To: <20060627205937.83319.qmail@web39110.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1fbbbced0606270744q3c7f9763j1713f61b668a02e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44A1C891.14265.50A456@localhost> On 27 Jun 2006 at 13:59, Matthew Osborne wrote: > Okay, so lets speculate for a minute that this deal does, in fact, > go through and all changes mentioned here occur. Doesn't that blow > apart the whole driving philosophy of having WKLB and the country > format on 99.5 - that 99.5 covers an area where more country music > fans are likely to be as opposed to downtown Boston? This concept > has even been verified here on this list by Greater Media > employees. Well, if they can get a better signal into Boston and still cover their North Shore territory, why not? I think the 102.5 signal probably covers all of the 99.5 territory north of Boston, or at least all that they are concerned about. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 01:29:35 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:29:35 -0400 Subject: Globe: Deal could keep WCRB classical (on 99.5) References: <20060627214845.2DF0A86B15@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <01f501c69a75$dbdeca20$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > The radio biz doesn't seem to be improving; Nassau would have to keep > costs REALLY low to generate a PROFIT that could go toward retiring this > mortgage. I for one am assuming that they are going to run this thing on a shoestring. Since they already purchased the 'goodwill' of WCRB, with that established....they are just going to have to keep an eye on spending. From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Jun 28 07:43:36 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 07:43:36 -0400 Subject: WBOQ reach in to Boston References: <4496CC22.8070504@friedbagels.com> <000001c69a38$2375b300$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <000e01c69ac1$cc6e8ac0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> You appear to be saying that the FCC not only ignores the laws of physics when it declares that something that can't work really works acceptably. You're saying that the Cookie Company also ignores the laws of physics when it declares that something that clearly works doesn't work. Maybe. But I think that if the Tangers were determined enough, they could arrange for a WRBB move to 101.3. As I said, this would not be the first US case of co-located second adjacents. I can't cite examples, but I think Scott Fybush can name at least one. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tomm" To: "Dan Strassberg" Cc: "Aaron Read" ; Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:58 PM Subject: Re: WBOQ reach in to Boston > IIRC, a requirement for WFNX upgrading power and moving their stick was > the deletion of the 101.3 translator. I thought this was discussed on > this list when FNX's new transmitter started up awhile back. If that > is the case, I doubt the FCC would allow for another facility to be > started up on that frequency at this point. > > Dave Tomm > "Mike Thomas" > > > On Jun 27, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Dan Strassberg wrote: > > > WRBB could operate on 101.3 from One Financial Center. That move might > > be > > very worthwhile. I'm told that this would not be the first case of > > co-located second adjacents in the US. And since WRBB's protected > > contour > > might not even reach street level, there might be no measurable > > prohibited > > overlap with WFNX. The big issue, I suspect, would be the rent at OFC. > > WBOQ > > would probably have to agree to pay that. > > > > -- > > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > > eFax 707-215-6367 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Aaron Read" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:09 PM > > Subject: WBOQ reach in to Boston > > > > > >> > >> Or, I wonder if WFNX would particularly mind if WRBB moved to 101.3FM? > >> Obviously that's not a great frequency for WRBB - it's still got > >> blanketing problems and there's a strong second adjacent. But it > >> can't > >> be worse than 104.9 is. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> -------------------------- > >> Aaron Read > >> readaaron@friedbagels.com > >> www.friedbagels.com > >> Boston, MA 02176 > >> > >> Fried Bagels - Broadcast Radio & Web > >> Engineering & Operations Consultant > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > From scott@fybush.com Wed Jun 28 11:03:34 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:03:34 -0400 Subject: WBOQ reach in to Boston In-Reply-To: <000e01c69ac1$cc6e8ac0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <4496CC22.8070504@friedbagels.com> <000001c69a38$2375b300$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <000e01c69ac1$cc6e8ac0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <44A29A46.3020105@fybush.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: > You appear to be saying that the FCC not only ignores the laws of physics > when it declares that something that can't work really works acceptably. > You're saying that the Cookie Company also ignores the laws of physics when > it declares that something that clearly works doesn't work. Maybe. Definitely. How else can you justify the rules that say that a second-adjacent translator co-located with a full-power station doesn't cause interference, but a full-power station with identical technical facilities would be unacceptable? The only difference there is a political one - the source of the input audio to the transmitter. > But I > think that if the Tangers were determined enough, they could arrange for a > WRBB move to 101.3. As I said, this would not be the first US case of > co-located second adjacents. I can't cite examples, but I think Scott Fybush > can name at least one. There are many in the translator service. The first one that comes to mind is W204BF Fort Wayne IN on 88.7, co-located with class B WBOI 89.1. WBOI is Fort Wayne's public radio station, and they turned it into a two-stream service by building a class A facility on 91.3 about 50 miles north of Fort Wayne, then putting the 88.7 translator on the air to simulcast the new second signal back into Fort Wayne. (In practice, of course, the audio heading for 88.7 just goes straight from the studio to the co-located transmitter, but the only way it can be licensed is if there's also a "primary" to "feed" the translator.) The operating principle is that the translator's 100 dBu contour cannot touch the second-adjacent full-power station's 60 dBu. If you put the translator high enough on the tower so that its 100 dBu signal never reaches ground level, where interference is calculated, then by the FCC's definition there is no interference. Several class D stations have successfully applied this principle to get the FCC to allow them to move to channels that are second- and third-adjacent to full-power signals in the same market. WHHS Havertown PA, which was displaced from 107.9 in the Philadelphia market, is the most recent example. They were allowed to move to 99.9 after receiving waiver letters from WPHI 100.3 Media PA and WJBR-FM 99.5 Wilmington DE consenting to a very small amount of interference on the grounds of the school where WHHS is located. If WZLX and WFNX would issue similar letters to WRBB, it could move to 101.3. I suspect the most expensive part of a move to OFC, perhaps even more so than the rent, would be the filtering needed to keep the WERS/WHRB/WFNX signals out of WRBB's antenna there s From ssmyth@suscom.net Fri Jun 30 22:00:37 2006 From: ssmyth@suscom.net (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:00:37 -0400 Subject: Comcast blowing up CN8 Message-ID: What does this mean for NECN? Perhaps channel space for a Comcast Sports Net New England some day down the road? >From part of an Associated Press story: "Comcast Corp. is expected to unveil in September a revamped 24-hour cable news, entertainment and sports channel for the Northeast that focuses on regional coverage rather than local fare. CN8, The Comcast Network, has been restructuring its lineup of shows to appeal to a broader audience, replacing programs seen only in specific markets with shows broadcast throughout the region, officials said. 'Now our lineup will be consistent wherever we air,' Comcast Eastern Division spokeswoman Beth Bacha said. About 46 jobs will be cut as a result of two programs being dropped ? a Philadelphia newscast and a program about New England issues and politics called ??Nitebeat.?? Staff from 'Sports Pulse,' which is also being cut, will be reassigned to another sports program." From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Fri Jun 30 23:19:04 2006 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:19:04 -0400 Subject: Comcast blowing up CN8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060630231543.025c0f28@BelloAssoc.com> NECN is a partnership between Comcast and the Hearst Corporation so it would take both to make major changes. At 10:00 PM 6/30/2006, Sean Smyth wrote: >What does this mean for NECN? Perhaps channel space for a >Comcast Sports Net New England some day down the road? > > >From part of an Associated Press story: >"Comcast Corp. is expected to unveil in September a revamped >24-hour cable news, entertainment and sports channel for the >Northeast that focuses on regional coverage rather than local >fare. >CN8, The Comcast Network, has been restructuring its lineup of >shows to appeal to a broader audience, replacing programs seen >only in specific markets with shows broadcast throughout the >region, officials said. >'Now our lineup will be consistent wherever we air,' Comcast >Eastern Division spokeswoman Beth Bacha said. >About 46 jobs will be cut as a result of two programs being >dropped ? a Philadelphia newscast and a program about New >England issues and politics called ??Nitebeat.?? Staff from >'Sports Pulse,' which is also being cut, will be reassigned to >another sports program."