From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 1 00:56:19 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:56:19 -0500 Subject: You Might Be A Radio Geek If... In-Reply-To: <20061130221429.C1508164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <456F7DB3.6345.A6D3F0@localhost> On 30 Nov 2006 at 17:14, Laurence Glavin wrote: > ...listening to a pair of radio stations swapping call letters and > frequencies at mid-day is your idea of a nooner. And if you tape both of them, that must make you a radio super-Geek. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 1 00:56:18 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:56:18 -0500 Subject: Gary Lapierre's Replacement In-Reply-To: <456F1BE5.2080009@fybush.com> References: <7.0.1.0.0.20061130072953.01ab95a0@grolen.com> Message-ID: <456F7DB2.12936.A6D2C9@localhost> On 30 Nov 2006 at 12:59, Scott Fybush wrote: > There is a conscious effort among many of us in the public radio > community to move away from that style, which is still unfortunately > too much in evidence on some of the national programming. (Robert > Siegel on ATC is a prime offender, who was especially grating the > other day when he was insisting on pronouncing "Muslims" as > "Mooo-slims.") Why is it pretentious to pronounce a word correctly? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Dec 1 00:51:34 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 00:51:34 -0500 Subject: Gary Lapierre's Replacement References: <456E29FD.7000002@ttlc.net> <456E35EB.3060704@fybush.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20061130072953.01ab95a0@grolen.com> Message-ID: <01ff01c7150e$5e7379a0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > Guess it's a matter of perspecitve...I've always found the public > radio style to be very stiff & pretentious, almost like they're > talking down to you. I find it hard to believe that you've done any recent listening to public radio of late....or maybe you are just relying on anecdotal information for your comment? You find Tom Ashbrook delivery "pretentious"? You feel Bob Oakes is "talking down to you"? Robin Young? Alex Chadwick? Ira Flatow? Terry Gross? Melissa Block? Eric Jackson? Ted O'Brien? I find these people have some of the most "conversational" and natural deliveries of anyone on the radio. Maybe you are simply noticing the lack of some of the macho "bravado" of big voice Gil, Gary, Jensen, Rod Fritz and others. To me, these people are more "pretentious"....(a la Ted Baxter), than todays announcers on public radio. From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 1 00:56:19 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:56:19 -0500 Subject: Bye Bye Boston's Progressive Talk? In-Reply-To: <001601c714d6$9b78f1a0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <456F7DB3.1952.A6D57F@localhost> On 30 Nov 2006 at 18:23, Dan Strassberg wrote: > With 1090, 1200, 1430, and 1510 all on the market, one would think > Boston-market AM prices would be coming down a bit. I could see 1200 > going to some major Hispanic broadcaster for big $$$. But we all know > about the last major Hispanic broadcaster with properties in Boston > and environs. Gee, maybe the prices will come down enough fot Bob Bittner to be able to buy another station. ;-> -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From me@billoneill.us Fri Dec 1 07:52:03 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 07:52:03 -0500 Subject: Gary Lapierre's Replacement In-Reply-To: <456F1BE5.2080009@fybush.com> References: <456E29FD.7000002@ttlc.net> <456E35EB.3060704@fybush.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20061130072953.01ab95a0@grolen.com> <456F1BE5.2080009@fybush.com> Message-ID: <45702573.4010905@billoneill.us> Scott Fybush wrote: > But there are plenty of counter-examples as well; Scott Simon on > Weekend Edition Saturday has a wonderful conversational style, at > least to my ear. And my current "delivery idol" is Kai Ryssdal on > Marketplace, who's as far from stuffy as it gets. > I've listed Scott Simon as among the most listenable on the radio. A moment I can't forget is back after 9/11 when the plan crashed in a neighborhood. Simon is interviewing a firefighter whose family perished. Scott's interview (and understandable emotional release) was as good as it gets. Ryssdal (thanks for the spelling Scott!) has a great natural style. Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 1 09:27:36 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:27:36 -0500 Subject: You Might Be A Radio Geek If... In-Reply-To: <456F7DB3.6345.A6D3F0@localhost> References: <20061130221429.C1508164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> <456F7DB3.6345.A6D3F0@localhost> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612010627l33a82b4bsdff381a249d92932@mail.gmail.com> >>> And if you tape both of them, that must make you a radio super-Geek. But if I tape both of them for people who like airchecks of them, it makes me a super nice guy :) From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 1 09:51:14 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:51:14 -0500 Subject: History of WBET site Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612010651le257dc5u5c684e8dc071a4fd@mail.gmail.com> http://www.irishradio.homestead.com/WBET.html WBET, now WBZB 1460 in Brockton (new calls) history site. Similar to what happened with WJDA, the local ownership is gone but the above page will provide you with some memories of the past. Since I grew up on the North Shore, not the South, I wasn't familiar with any of this... From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Fri Dec 1 10:21:16 2006 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:21:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: History of WBET site In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612010651le257dc5u5c684e8dc071a4fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57596.10777.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Bob Nelson wrote: > WBET, now WBZB 1460 in Brockton (new calls) history site. WBET was sold? When did this happen? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 1 10:26:17 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 10:26:17 -0500 Subject: 1200, 1430 details changes (BRW) Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612010726v313f2dc9i925314653d4a0bc9@mail.gmail.com> http://www.bostonradiowatch.com WXKS and WKOX lineup changes in a week, according to Boston Radio Watch: Thom Hartmann is replacing Franken at noon. Ed Schultz will remain at 3 pm even though nationally his show will move to noon ET on 12/11 (Jones will do a refeed). No other changes at this time... From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 1 11:58:00 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 11:58:00 -0500 Subject: The WKLB/WCRB flip Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612010858i15d91d8crfe0f53a361e1e43@mail.gmail.com> On WCRB: a final piece by Copland that sounds like a rodeo hoedown (not kidding). On WKLB a bunch of ads, one more announcement about the move, and word that listeners of the Country Cafe on their new freq who call in & get on air will win $102.50... When this flip is done (be patient, it takes awhile to upload), you can find it at: The 102.5 flip, classical to country http://microfurry.250free.com/WKLBSwitch.mp3 The 99.5 flip, country to classical http://microfurry.250free.com/WCRBSwitch.mp3 From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 1 12:01:48 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 12:01:48 -0500 Subject: And the flip has happened... Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612010901g16977f26g13b7d92c89f64576@mail.gmail.com> And here we go. end of Ricochet song pops up on 102.5 "Country Music...102.5 FM" 99.5: :"Thanks for moving with us to our new home on the radio" 102.5: "A newer more powerful signal" 99.5: Hallelujah Chorus 102.5: Country 102.5 jingle From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Dec 1 13:03:32 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:03:32 -0500 Subject: 1200, 1430 details changes (BRW) In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612010726v313f2dc9i925314653d4a0bc9@mail.gmail.co m> References: <1fbbbced0612010726v313f2dc9i925314653d4a0bc9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061201180133.102CE643B42@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 10:26 AM 12/1/2006, Bob Nelson wrote: >http://www.bostonradiowatch.com > >WXKS and WKOX lineup changes in a week, according to Boston Radio Watch: >Thom Hartmann is replacing Franken at noon. Ed Schultz will remain at 3 pm >even though nationally his show will move to noon ET on 12/11 (Jones will >do a refeed). No other changes at this time... That is how WHMP and a number of other progressive stations began to program as of a month ago-- they dropped Franken and picked up Hartmann. From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Fri Dec 1 13:16:56 2006 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 10:16:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: The WKLB/WCRB flip In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612010858i15d91d8crfe0f53a361e1e43@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <567798.20261.qm@web56809.mail.re3.yahoo.com> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 11:58:00 Bob Nelson wrote: > When this flip is done (be patient, it takes awhile > to upload), you > can find it at: > The 102.5 flip, classical to country > http://microfurry.250free.com/WKLBSwitch.mp3 > > The 99.5 flip, country to classical > http://microfurry.250free.com/WCRBSwitch.mp3 > Thank you so much for posting. I was trying to listen to the change on WKLB's web stream, but as luck would have it I got called into a meeting with my manager at 11:58 AM and missed the actual switch. Now I can at least hear the changeover Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited From ewerme@comcast.net Fri Dec 1 13:23:30 2006 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 13:23:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? Message-ID: <20061201182330.C9B9046477@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> The WKLB on-air folks sounded positively giddy at the increased coverage they will get. However, both transmitters have the same effective power and the coverage maps at http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WKLB&service=FM&status=L&hours=U http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WCRB&service=FM&status=L&hours=U show the same areal extent, as far as my eye can see. The Needham transmitter certainly gets more people in Southern NE, but the move to Lowell (and frequency change away from Concord NH's 102.3 station) means _this_ listener now gets WCRB but not WKLB. The first piece played was the Hallelujah Chorus, good choice. I can get 99.5 well enough in my office in mono on my venerable Sony ICF-2010 which turns out to have a really crappy FM tuner. My Saturn's factory car radio is more sensitive! It's nice to have a Classical station I can receive again, even if they have a "Top-40" format. :-) WKLB changed www.wklb.com to have a flash intro showing 99.5 morphing into 102.5; WCRB essentially took down their web site a couple weeks ago. -Ric Werme From madprof@ix.netcom.com Fri Dec 1 13:33:47 2006 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 13:33:47 -0500 Subject: You Might Be A Radio Geek If... References: <20061130221429.C1508164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <01d001c71577$4072b7e0$103f9c04@p133> or if you are sad when legacy call letters move, like WTTT Amherst, MA (ok, so it was a localized legacy), WMEX. or when you write programs to plot AM patterns of a single frequency for the whole US, Canada, Mexico, & West Indies. or when you collect old radio magazines from the 20's, 30's, 40's. (like at Brimfield flea markets). or when you calculate coordinates of every place you & your daughter ever live. (the QTH, baby!) or when you p_ss & moan when you can't receive a station's DX test. Bob From madprof@ix.netcom.com Fri Dec 1 13:57:03 2006 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 13:57:03 -0500 Subject: The WKLB/WCRB flip References: <1fbbbced0612010858i15d91d8crfe0f53a361e1e43@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01ee01c7157a$7ddedf20$103f9c04@p133> a VERY decent move of you to tape & digitize the changeovers! but, the WCRBSwitch URL reports "not found".....is it too busy? Bob S. P.S. viewing the Microfurry site: very delightful! ah, I taut I saw a puddytat but (forgive me being a wiseguy) what's it got to do with racoon(radio)? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" > The 99.5 flip, country to classical > http://microfurry.250free.com/WCRBSwitch.mp3 > From lglavin@mail.com Fri Dec 1 14:13:11 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:13:11 -0500 Subject: You Might Be A Radio Geek If... Message-ID: <20061201191316.65EBF102CA@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert F. Sutherland" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: You Might Be A Radio Geek If... >Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 13:33:47 -0500 >or if you are sad when legacy call letters move, >like WTTT Amherst, MA (ok, so it was a localized legacy), WMEX. >or when you write programs to plot AM patterns of a single frequency >for the whole US, Canada, Mexico, & West Indies. >or when you collect old radio magazines from the 20's, 30's, 40's. >(like at Brimfield flea markets). >or when you calculate coordinates of every place you & your daughter ever >live. >(the QTH, baby!) >or when you p_ss & moan when you can't receive a station's DX test. Or how about this: when I saw Susan Bickelhaupt's name in today's Boston Globe, I knew a misprint couldn't be far away, and voila: among listings for college basketball and college football games on the radio this weekend, two will be on WRCN-AM 830...an error printed twice. -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 1 15:08:39 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 15:08:39 -0500 Subject: And the flip has happened... In-Reply-To: <45703FCE.1949.79BB86@localhost> References: <1fbbbced0612010901g16977f26g13b7d92c89f64576@mail.gmail.com> <45703FCE.1949.79BB86@localhost> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612011208i7795fb39yc8761bd674a72079@mail.gmail.com> I just heard 102.5 say "WCRB-FM Waltham/Boston" (their Greater Media "voice" announcer),,I could swear I heard him say "WCRB" not "WKLB"... There may have been legal IDs 5 or 10 minutes before noon, to cover themselves...I'd have to go to the tapes I did to be sure. > Apparently the call-letter change was approved in time by the FCC. From lglavin@mail.com Fri Dec 1 14:17:38 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:17:38 -0500 Subject: Gary Lapierre's Replacement Message-ID: <20061201191741.E97861BF603@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Don A." >To: bri@bostonradio.org, SteveOrdinetz >Subject: Re: Gary Lapierre's Replacement >Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 00:51:34 -0500 >I find it hard to believe that you've done any recent listening to public >radio of late....or maybe you are just relying on anecdotal information for >your comment? >You find Tom Ashbrook delivery "pretentious"? >You feel Bob Oakes is "talking down to you"? >Robin Young? Alex Chadwick? Ira Flatow? Terry Gross? Melissa Block? Eric >Jackson? Ted O'Brien? Ted O'Brien? He hasn't been heard from on WBUR since long before Jane left. -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 1 15:14:25 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 15:14:25 -0500 Subject: The WKLB/WCRB flip In-Reply-To: <01e201c7157a$3afb7560$103f9c04@p133> References: <1fbbbced0612010858i15d91d8crfe0f53a361e1e43@mail.gmail.com> <01e201c7157a$3afb7560$103f9c04@p133> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612011214r5b9f29aaxd325e0f65fbe3d1e@mail.gmail.com> Maybe the WCRBSwitch one was being uploaded when you accessed it. Try it now. (I'll double check to make sure it made it, but my FTP seemed to show that it was successful.) The "microfurry" site refers to furry (cartoons with anthropomorphic animals), another interest of mine. "Raccoonradio" links that (furry) with radio... My pleasure to post it...I put it on that site but could have put it on the site for WMWM that I run. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 1 15:58:45 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 15:58:45 -0500 Subject: Condensed version of WKLB & WCRB switch Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612011258k130b2507x7b7ac6f54508c02d@mail.gmail.com> CONDENSED VERSION of the switch 2 minutes, country to classical http://microfurry.250free.com/Switch995.mp3 3 minutes including about 38 sec of dead air,classical to country http://microfurry.250free.com/Switch1025.mp3 From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 1 14:44:30 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:44:30 -0500 Subject: And the flip has happened... In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612010901g16977f26g13b7d92c89f64576@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45703FCE.1949.79BB86@localhost> On 1 Dec 2006 at 12:01, Bob Nelson wrote: > And here we go. > > end of Ricochet song pops up on 102.5 > "Country Music...102.5 FM" They were playin a countrified version of the National Anthem, and the flip took place just before it ended, so that the word "Brave" was cut off on 99.5 and heard on 102.5. I'm working at home today, partly because I do that now and then and partly to facilitate taping both transitions. Now, I've tried various radios and found that WCRB on 99.5 seems to come in better than WKLB did on 99.5. I don't know why that is, but it seems to be so. I notice the difference particularly on my Sony 2010, which couldn't pick up WKLB 99.5 when I tried it a few days ago. Likewise on my Walkman, on which I couldn't find WKLB a few days ago, but I was able to find WCRB after the switch. The boom-box, which couldn't pick up WKLB a few days ago still can't pick up WCRB 99.5. Then again, I had a lot of trouble tuning it to WCRB 102.5 before. My mother's Panasonic portable, which I bought her in the late 70s or early 80s, could get WCRB 102.5 if the antenna was oriented correctly, and I used it to tape the 102.5 flip. Then I tuned it to 99.5 and found a clear signal no matter how I oriented the antenna. When I get in Monday, I'm looking forward to getting a clear signal in my office on 99.5, without all the constant re-tuning that I've had to do on 102.5. Apparently the call-letter change was approved in time by the FCC. No whispering of the other call letters. WKLB gave a last "WKLB-FM Lowell Boston" ID a few minutes before the flip. WCRB gave a "WCRB Lowell Boston" ID shortly after the flip. Neither WCRB nor WKLB gave a legal ID on 102.5 around noon, before or after the flip. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Fri Dec 1 17:15:33 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 17:15:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: And the flip has happened... In-Reply-To: <45703FCE.1949.79BB86@localhost> References: <1fbbbced0612010901g16977f26g13b7d92c89f64576@mail.gmail.com> <45703FCE.1949.79BB86@localhost> Message-ID: <53498.66.195.169.98.1165011333.squirrel@webmail5.pair.com> Not being within listening range of either one, I got to experience the Big Flip through the magic of streaming audio. WCRB's stream was rock-solid, high quality, and very compatible with Firefox. WKLB's was rebuffering on a regular basis, and forced me into IE (and to register for their "Listener Club") to get it at all. Given the vagaries of Internet "propagation," I didn't expect to hear both flips in perfect synch (I was listening to WCRB on my desktop machine and WKLB on the laptop :-), but both hit very close to each other at about 12:02 for me. It was, obviously, impossible for me to tell when the actual frequency shifts happened, since the streams followed the program source for each station, but it was fun to be a part of the action from a distance, at least. (And I downloaded Bob's audio of the over-the-air flips just before I headed into WXXI for the afternoon...many, many thanks for that service!) s From lglavin@mail.com Fri Dec 1 17:51:21 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:51:21 -0500 Subject: R.L.K. RIP Message-ID: <20061201225121.DC5031F5165@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> In an odd coincidence, Richard L. Kaye, longtime Vice President of Charles River Broadcasting, and WCRB when it was a REAL classical music station, died Wednesday, November 29th. He arrived on the scene when the only WCRB that existed was an AM station on 1330 kilocycles (the word they used then). I wouldn't be surprised if he supervised the installation of the horizontal-only FM antenna on one of the WCRB-AM sticks. The Boston Globe had a standard obit yesterday and today; I wouldn't be surprised if Scott has a more detailed one on Monday. -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 1 18:10:22 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:10:22 -0500 Subject: And the flip has happened... In-Reply-To: <53498.66.195.169.98.1165011333.squirrel@webmail5.pair.com> References: <45703FCE.1949.79BB86@localhost> Message-ID: <4570700E.12074.1363E76@localhost> On 1 Dec 2006 at 17:15, Scott Fybush wrote: > Not being within listening range of either one, I got to experience > the Big Flip through the magic of streaming audio. WCRB's stream was > rock-solid, high quality, and very compatible with Firefox. WKLB's was > rebuffering on a regular basis, and forced me into IE (and to register > for their "Listener Club") to get it at all. Given the vagaries of > Internet "propagation," I didn't expect to hear both flips in perfect > synch (I was listening to WCRB on my desktop machine and WKLB on the > laptop :-), but both hit very close to each other at about 12:02 for > me. It was, obviously, impossible for me to tell when the actual > frequency shifts happened, since the streams followed the program > source for each station, but it was fun to be a part of the action > from a distance, at least. I think it actually happened about a minute before noon. 102.5 had a bit of dead air before the shift. Since I believe all the liners are pre-recorded on WCRB (and maybe on WKLB as well), it's not surprising that this thing didn't take place more smoothly. The people flipping the switches probably weren't monitoring either signal, which is why the WKLB flip took place before the National Anthem finished. Since there was a moment of dead air after the National Anthem, I assume that was when the flip was intended to take place. I also noticed that last night, WCRB started saying that they would be moving to 99.5 "at noon today" about five minutes before midnight, when it wasn't "today" quite yet. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From me@billoneill.us Fri Dec 1 18:16:27 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:16:27 -0500 Subject: R.L.K. RIP In-Reply-To: <20061201225121.DC5031F5165@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061201225121.DC5031F5165@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4570B7CB.4000803@billoneill.us> Laurence Glavin wrote: > In an odd coincidence, Richard L. Kaye, longtime Vice President of Charles River > Broadcasting, and WCRB when it was a REAL classical music station, died Wednesday, > November 29th. I wouldn't be surprised if he supervised the installation of the horizontal-only > FM antenna on one of the WCRB-AM sticks. Way to put "horizontal" and "died" in the same post. Horizontal. I get it. Bill O'Neill From news@southstation.org Fri Dec 1 18:28:59 2006 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:28:59 -0500 Subject: R.L.K. RIP In-Reply-To: <20061201225121.DC5031F5165@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <013701c715a0$7bac2b60$6501a8c0@main> Rest in peace, Richard. I spent many Saturday nights with him and his cohorts at WCLV in Cleaveland on the air. He was my introduction to P.D.Q. Bach and many other comedic artists. He was a true gentleman the times I met him at 'CRB. -Larry Lovering -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Laurence Glavin Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:51 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: R.L.K. RIP In an odd coincidence, Richard L. Kaye, longtime Vice President of Charles River Broadcasting, and WCRB when it was a REAL classical music station, died Wednesday, November 29th. He arrived on the scene when the only WCRB that existed was an AM station on 1330 kilocycles (the word they used then). I wouldn't be surprised if he supervised the installation of the horizontal-only FM antenna on one of the WCRB-AM sticks. The Boston Globe had a standard obit yesterday and today; I wouldn't be surprised if Scott has a more detailed one on Monday. -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From news@southstation.org Fri Dec 1 18:31:52 2006 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:31:52 -0500 Subject: The WKLB/WCRB flip In-Reply-To: <01ee01c7157a$7ddedf20$103f9c04@p133> Message-ID: <013801c715a0$e18f3d00$6501a8c0@main> After a trip back through the links, I see my old friend Top Cat. When I was a youngster in Stoneham, the eight-year old sister of my friend Cheryl kept asking me which was better; Top Cat or Alvin & The Chipmunks. Only Alvin made it to radio, so it was he I chose. -Larry Lovering -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Robert F. Sutherland Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 1:57 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: The WKLB/WCRB flip a VERY decent move of you to tape & digitize the changeovers! but, the WCRBSwitch URL reports "not found".....is it too busy? Bob S. P.S. viewing the Microfurry site: very delightful! ah, I taut I saw a puddytat but (forgive me being a wiseguy) what's it got to do with racoon(radio)? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" > The 99.5 flip, country to classical > http://microfurry.250free.com/WCRBSwitch.mp3 > From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 1 18:47:08 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:47:08 -0500 Subject: What about WFCC? Message-ID: <457078AC.26918.157E74C@localhost> In all the talk about the WCRB flip, no one has said anything about WCRB's sister station, WFCC on the cape. What's happened there? Did it get sold with WCRB? Is it still classical? Will it still be classical? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@csail.mit.edu Fri Dec 1 19:02:38 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 19:02:38 -0500 Subject: What about WFCC? In-Reply-To: <457078AC.26918.157E74C@localhost> References: <457078AC.26918.157E74C@localhost> Message-ID: <17776.49822.652444.258090@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > In all the talk about the WCRB flip, no one has said anything about > WCRB's sister station, WFCC on the cape. What's happened there? Did > it get sold with WCRB? The only thing that has happened thus far with WFCC-FM is that the ownership of license has been transferred from Charles River Broadcasting WFCC License Corp. to Charles River Broadcasting WFCC License, LLC (with the same ultimate shareholders and the same voting interests). CRB filed a consummation notice (now in electronic form) dated November 8. The original pro-forma assignment application contains an interesting list of shareholders; Richard L. Kaye was the largest shareholder after the Jones Trust. -GAWollman From ewerme@comcast.net Fri Dec 1 19:03:32 2006 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:03:32 -0500 Subject: R.L.K. RIP In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:29:28 EST." Message-ID: <20061202000332.630FA48518@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> Laurence Glavin wrote: > In an odd coincidence, Richard L. Kaye, longtime Vice President of > Charles River Broadcasting, and WCRB when it was a REAL classical > music station, died Wednesday, November 29th. I lost track of him and his great "WCRB Saturday Night" program after moving out of convenient range of WCRB. I had assumed he had died years ago. I only met him a couple times, once at one of my few visits to Tanglewood for a Crofut and Luxon concert (and a BSO concert). Crofut and Luxon is my all-time favorite find from "Saturday Night." (Bill Crofut died several years ago. He was a folk singer who learned banjo from Pete Seeger, Ben Luxon is an operatic singer. They met in a pub in Germany and found they were both interested in how folk songs changed between England and the colonies.) Larry Lovering will appreciate that I also enjoyed the WCLV connections as I grew up 25 miles east of Cleveland. One of the first WCLV segments included the ads, it was nice hearing some of the old familiar advertisers. Thank you for the post - I would have missed the obit otherwise. -Ric Werme From lorraine6474@usadatanet.net Fri Dec 1 12:09:01 2006 From: lorraine6474@usadatanet.net (Lorraine Smith) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 12:09:01 -0500 Subject: And the flip has happened... References: <1fbbbced0612010901g16977f26g13b7d92c89f64576@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001501c7156b$67bde290$20ea4345@Lorraine> I was looking forward to the National Anthem From w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com Fri Dec 1 18:54:55 2006 From: w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com (Jon Maguire) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:54:55 -0500 Subject: 75 Concord Ave, Lexington Photos Message-ID: <4570C0CF.7070704@tampabay.rr.com> Gee, I was just thinking of my years at WCOP AM/FM at the subject address (70-75). I thought there were some photos around. Any pointers? Thanks to all. Jon in Florida From me@billoneill.us Fri Dec 1 16:55:04 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:55:04 -0500 Subject: And the flip has happened... In-Reply-To: <45703FCE.1949.79BB86@localhost> References: <45703FCE.1949.79BB86@localhost> Message-ID: <4570A4B8.8060103@billoneill.us> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > Now, I've tried > various radios and found that WCRB on 99.5 seems to come in better > than WKLB did on 99.5. I don't know why that is, but it seems to be > so. Had both stations re-tuned their audio processing prior to the flip? Bill O'Neill From wollman@csail.mit.edu Fri Dec 1 19:10:55 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 19:10:55 -0500 Subject: 75 Concord Ave, Lexington Photos In-Reply-To: <4570C0CF.7070704@tampabay.rr.com> References: <4570C0CF.7070704@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <17776.50319.205033.487846@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Gee, I was just thinking of my years at WCOP AM/FM at the subject > address (70-75). I thought there were some photos around. Any pointers? > Thanks to all. There are certainly some exterior photos in the Archives photo galleries. I've never been inside, though. (Part of the building is now leased out as office space. I'm not even sure who actually owns the building or the towers these days -- I thought American Tower got them from 1150's brief stint under ARS ownership.) -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 1 20:15:59 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:15:59 -0500 Subject: What about WFCC? In-Reply-To: <17776.49822.652444.258090@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <457078AC.26918.157E74C@localhost> Message-ID: <45708D7F.10009.1A94482@localhost> On 1 Dec 2006 at 19:02, Garrett Wollman wrote: > The only thing that has happened thus far with WFCC-FM is that the > ownership of license has been transferred from Charles River > Broadcasting WFCC License Corp. to Charles River Broadcasting WFCC > License, LLC (with the same ultimate shareholders and the same voting > interests). CRB filed a consummation notice (now in electronic form) > dated November 8. > > The original pro-forma assignment application contains an interesting > list of shareholders; Richard L. Kaye was the largest shareholder > after the Jones Trust. I guess that means Charles River Broadcasting is still in existence. I wonder why WFCC wasn't sold. For that matter, I still wonder how they managed to sell WCRB without violating the terms of the Jones Trust. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From me@billoneill.us Fri Dec 1 18:08:41 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:08:41 -0500 Subject: ScottStream Message-ID: <4570B5F9.4040104@billoneill.us> It was great surfing over to hear our Scott on 1370 WXXI this evening. As Scott reported on a high number of traffic problems in Rochester, it was a stark contrast to what Vermont considers rush hour! Way to go, Scott! Bill O'Neill From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 1 21:03:45 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:03:45 -0500 Subject: WCRB programming Message-ID: <457098B1.29213.1D50244@localhost> WCRB is now playing Leonard Bernstein's Mass in C. I thought it was part of the "Top 40" program format on WCRB not to play choral work, except for Christmas music, late in December. This isn't the first choral work I've heard on WCRB lately. A few days ago they played Beethoven's 9th Symphony, and the first work played after the shift to 99.5 was Handel's Hallelujah Choris. Could it be that the new owners have changed the formula? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 1 21:45:36 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:45:36 -0500 Subject: WCRB programming In-Reply-To: <457098B1.29213.1D50244@localhost> Message-ID: <4570A280.2486.1FB537C@localhost> On 1 Dec 2006 at 21:03, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > WCRB is now playing Leonard Bernstein's Mass in C. Actually, it's Haydn's Mass in C, directed by Leonard Bernstein. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Dec 2 00:26:44 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 00:26:44 -0500 Subject: What about WFCC? In-Reply-To: <003d01c715d2$1b5c55a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <4570C844.20749.28EDD64@localhost> On 2 Dec 2006 at 0:24, Dan Strassberg wrote: > Have you yet obtained and read a copy of the trust document? I have > not, but since I am not an attorney, it would not likely be as > meaningful to me as it would be to Joe. However, I thought the trust > required that WCRB maintain a classical-music format for 99 years. > Unless the document required that WCRB remain on 102.5, remain > licensed to Waltham, and/or remain under the ownership of the trust, > wouldn't a classical format on a full Class B FM serving the Boston > market with the call letters WCRB be likely to meet the conditions of > the trust? Perhaps it would, but unless WCRB remains under the ownership of the trust, what is there to prevent Nassau from selling the station or changing its format next year? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Dec 2 00:24:07 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 00:24:07 -0500 Subject: What about WFCC? References: <457078AC.26918.157E74C@localhost> <45708D7F.10009.1A94482@localhost> Message-ID: <003d01c715d2$1b5c55a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Have you yet obtained and read a copy of the trust document? I have not, but since I am not an attorney, it would not likely be as meaningful to me as it would be to Joe. However, I thought the trust required that WCRB maintain a classical-music format for 99 years. Unless the document required that WCRB remain on 102.5, remain licensed to Waltham, and/or remain under the ownership of the trust, wouldn't a classical format on a full Class B FM serving the Boston market with the call letters WCRB be likely to meet the conditions of the trust? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Garrett Wollman" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: What about WFCC? > On 1 Dec 2006 at 19:02, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > The only thing that has happened thus far with WFCC-FM is that the > > ownership of license has been transferred from Charles River > > Broadcasting WFCC License Corp. to Charles River Broadcasting WFCC > > License, LLC (with the same ultimate shareholders and the same voting > > interests). CRB filed a consummation notice (now in electronic form) > > dated November 8. > > > > The original pro-forma assignment application contains an interesting > > list of shareholders; Richard L. Kaye was the largest shareholder > > after the Jones Trust. > > I guess that means Charles River Broadcasting is still in existence. > I wonder why WFCC wasn't sold. For that matter, I still wonder how > they managed to sell WCRB without violating the terms of the Jones > Trust. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Dec 2 03:45:45 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 03:45:45 -0500 Subject: The WKLB/WCRB flip In-Reply-To: <013801c715a0$e18f3d00$6501a8c0@main> References: <01ee01c7157a$7ddedf20$103f9c04@p133> <013801c715a0$e18f3d00$6501a8c0@main> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612020045g1534efe0u73d01ac54dfa2a34@mail.gmail.com> On 12/1/06, Larry Lovering wrote: > After a trip back through the links, I see my old friend Top Cat. Yes--if anything my main radio page should be under raccoonradio.com. It's just using the same website account as my furry site...I can remember days when Ch 38 would sign on in the late afternoon and you'd have the Stooges and then I believe Top Cat reruns at 6 pm... From lwalus@cheerful.com Sat Dec 2 03:14:43 2006 From: lwalus@cheerful.com (Lee Walus) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:14:43 +0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? Message-ID: <20061202081443.71434839A5@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Using a cheap Coby portable receiver, I was unable to pickup WCRB 99.5 at all in Kendall Square Cambridge. This may be due to the tall buildings and intermodulation distortion but perhaps these coverage maps are somewhat misleading. Lee Walus > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ric Werme" > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? > Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 13:23:30 -0500 (EST) > > > The WKLB on-air folks sounded positively giddy at the increased > coverage they will get. However, both transmitters have the same > effective power and the coverage maps at > http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WKLB&service=FM&status=L&hours=U > http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WCRB&service=FM&status=L&hours=U > show the same areal extent, as far as my eye can see. > > The Needham transmitter certainly gets more people in Southern NE, but the > move to Lowell (and frequency change away from Concord NH's 102.3 station) > means _this_ listener now gets WCRB but not WKLB. The first piece > played was the Hallelujah Chorus, good choice. > > I can get 99.5 well enough in my office in mono on my venerable Sony > ICF-2010 which turns out to have a really crappy FM tuner. My > Saturn's factory car radio is more sensitive! > > It's nice to have a Classical station I can receive again, even if they > have a "Top-40" format. :-) > > > WKLB changed www.wklb.com to have a flash intro showing 99.5 morphing > into 102.5; WCRB essentially took down their web site a couple weeks > ago. > > -Ric Werme > From wollman@csail.mit.edu Sat Dec 2 12:43:25 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 12:43:25 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? In-Reply-To: <20061202081443.71434839A5@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061202081443.71434839A5@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <17777.47933.624993.647496@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Using a cheap Coby portable receiver, I was unable to pickup WCRB > 99.5 at all in Kendall Square Cambridge. This may be due to the tall > buildings and intermodulation distortion but perhaps these coverage > maps are somewhat misleading. Both stations are full, non-directional class-Bs, so their "for entertainment purposes only" coverage maps should look the same but for the location of the center of the circle. -GAWollman From lglavin@mail.com Sat Dec 2 12:50:49 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:50:49 -0500 Subject: R.L.K. RIP Message-ID: <20061202175049.C1FB71BF965@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ric Werme" >To: "Laurence Glavin" >Subject: Re: R.L.K. RIP >Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:03:32 -0500 >Thank you for the post - I would have missed the obit otherwise. >-Ric Werme Don't forget to read Scott's "Northeast Radio Watch" on Monday; I'd bet $60 he runs an appreciation. -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From lglavin@mail.com Sat Dec 2 12:58:21 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:58:21 -0500 Subject: R.L.K. RIP Message-ID: <20061202175821.B4A881BF8F9@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bill O'Neill" >To: "Laurence Glavin" >Subject: Re: R.L.K. RIP >Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:16:27 -0500 >Laurence Glavin wrote: > In an odd coincidence, Richard L. Kaye, longtime Vice President > of Charles River > Broadcasting, and WCRB when it was a REAL classical music > station, died Wednesday, > November 29th. I wouldn't be surprised if he supervised > the installation of the horizontal-only > FM antenna on one of the WCRB-AM sticks. >Way to put "horizontal" and "died" in the same post. Horizontal. I get it. No no no no no! No pun was intended (for once)! For a few years after WCRB-FM moved its transmitter to the then WBZ-TV tower, those horizontal bays were visible from Route 128 on the AM tower, possibly as an auxiliary antenna... and horizontal bays were the only antenna in use then. I remember some readily visible horizontal bays then: WGHJ-FM 93.7 on a stick next to the WCCM-AM antenna (I often wondered why they didn't attach them to the WCCM tower...it was then a 3-legged self-supporting tower, could just two FM bays have presented too much windload?); the horizontal bays on the flagpole section of the WHAV-AM 1490 tower; the WERS antenna atop 130 Beacon Street. -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From lglavin@mail.com Sat Dec 2 12:46:20 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:46:20 -0500 Subject: WCRB programming Message-ID: <20061202174621.587301BF952@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: "Boston Radio Interest" >Subject: Re: WCRB programming >Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:45:36 -0500 >On 1 Dec 2006 at 21:03, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > WCRB is now playing Leonard Bernstein's Mass in C. >Actually, it's Haydn's Mass in C, directed by Leonard Bernstein. I wonder if it has anything to do with Richard L. Kaye's funeral... he hosted a program after Boston Symphony broadcasts called "WCRB Saturday Night" (long before "Saturday Night Live" on NBC Television.) He played comedy tracks from various albums and from time to time offered humourous bumper stickers, one of which read "Haydn For The Masses". Even though he was a Jewish gentleman, perhaps he suggested to WCRB "management" if they wanted to recognize him in any way they should play a liturgical choral piece. -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Sat Dec 2 15:40:08 2006 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 20:40:08 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: And the flip has happened... Message-ID: <4571E4A8.1040006@Gmail.com> Our esteemed legal counselor for the electromagnetic arts and sciences advised, > Apparently the call-letter change was approved in time by > the FCC. > No whispering of the other call letters. WKLB gave a last > "WKLB-FM Lowell Boston" ID a few minutes before the flip. > WCRB gave a "WCRB Lowell Boston" ID shortly after the flip. > Neither WCRB nor WKLB gave a legal ID on 102.5 around noon, > before or after the flip. Well, I queried their FCC files sometime in midday and, clicking their "Call Sign Changes", both had officially changed as of "12/01/2006". Like good, attentive doobies, 99.5 gave a proper "WCRB Lowell-Boston" TOH-ID throughout the remainder of the day. However, 102.5 gave a fast "WCRB-Waltham-Boston" thoughout the afternoon and evening!!! Just for Igo, Harder and Berry (what first name do they have in common? P=), I gave the studio a ring after midnight??at their *NEW* toll-free number: 888-819-1025??and was told that the new ID was pressed into service as of midnight (which I subsequently confirmed: Now it's a semi-fast "WKLB-FM-Waltham-Boston"!). So it seems, yesterday??on-air??there were two WCRBs and no WKLB! P=) ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From lglavin@mail.com Sat Dec 2 16:04:44 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:04:44 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: And the flip has happened... Message-ID: <20061202210445.07920103E7@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" >To: Boston-Radio-Interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: [B-R-I] Re: And the flip has happened... >Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 20:40:08 +0000 >Our esteemed legal counselor for the electromagnetic arts >and sciences advised, > Apparently the call-letter change was approved in time by > the FCC. > No whispering of the other call letters. WKLB gave a last > "WKLB-FM Lowell Boston" ID a few minutes before the flip. > WCRB gave a "WCRB Lowell Boston" ID shortly after the flip. > Neither WCRB nor WKLB gave a legal ID on 102.5 around noon, > before or after the flip. >Well, I queried their FCC files sometime in midday and, clicking >their "Call Sign Changes", both had officially changed as of >"12/01/2006". >Like good, attentive doobies, 99.5 gave a proper "WCRB >Lowell-Boston" TOH-ID throughout the remainder of the day. >However, 102.5 gave a fast "WCRB-Waltham-Boston" thoughout the >afternoon and evening!!! Just for Igo, Harder and Berry (what >first name do they have in common? P=), I gave the studio a ring >after midnight??at their *NEW* toll-free number: >888-819-1025??and was told that the new ID was pressed into >service as of midnight (which I subsequently confirmed: Now it's a >semi-fast "WKLB-FM-Waltham-Boston"!). >So it seems, yesterday??on-air??there were two WCRBs and no WKLB! P=) >~Kaimbridge~ >----- >Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge Youre not the only Wikipedia editor on the board; I corrected the transmitter location for the WKLB entry... it initially read "BostonMassachusetts"...I replaced it with "Newton, Massachusetts". -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Dec 2 17:09:01 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 17:09:01 -0500 Subject: Norm Nathan tribute CD; Jerry's Christmas in Wales Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612021409g75dee313i6bbe770ad827b5c6@mail.gmail.com> Jordan Rich's site is offering a retrospective CD about Norm Nathan at his site. Proceeds benefit the Norm Nathan Jazz Scholarship at the Berklee College of Music: http://jordanrich.com/nathanCD.htm Also, I noticed that the Jerry Williams tribute site has a favorite that he used to do every year. Through digital audio we can still hear it: his reading of A Child's Christmas In Wales. http://www.jerrywilliams.org From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Dec 2 17:15:35 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 17:15:35 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? In-Reply-To: <17777.47933.624993.647496@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <20061202081443.71434839A5@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <17777.47933.624993.647496@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612021415v67d7eb69o70788db9b1416b9a@mail.gmail.com> Just before they flipped to 102.5, someone mentioned to WKLB DJ Carolyn Cruse on air that "hey, you can finally pick up the station now at your house (at the new freq)!" She replied, "That's right!" Her bio at the WKLB site says she lives in Milton. From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sat Dec 2 21:51:51 2006 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 18:51:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? AND 102.5 sounds BASSie In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612021415v67d7eb69o70788db9b1416b9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061203025152.37861.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well I guess it's not picket fencing on the way home, as the average speed during that part of the commute is less than 10 mph. That means I occasionally sit in a very hashy reception spot while creeping with the traffic. My bigger concern is that 102.5 WKLB seems to favor lower frequency BASS rather than a country music higher frequency bias TREBLE. Is it possible the processing and/or transmitter equipment is still geared towards classical music ? John B Derry NH ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Dec 3 15:38:55 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 15:38:55 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? Message-ID: > From: "Lee Walus" > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:14:43 +0500 > Subject: Re: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? > > Using a cheap Coby portable receiver, I was unable to pickup WCRB > 99.5 at all in Kendall Square Cambridge. This may be due to the > tall buildings and intermodulation distortion but perhaps these > coverage maps are somewhat misleading. The coverage maps display the (approximate) range of the signal itself without taking into account external factors such as other stations that may interfere with it in certain areas. If the Prudential building didn't exist, you'd have no problem picking up 99.5 in Kendall Square. The map is correct that the signal is present in that area. However, it's being covered up in your receiver by intermodulation from the seven Class B's directly across the river on the Pru causing receiver overload and a blanking effect of other signals from other locations. On the Pru are WBOS, WTKK, WZLX, WBCN, WROR, WMJX, WXKS-FM. On a cheap Coby portable, or most any portable, Walkman style radio, or "boom-box" in the Kendall Square/MIT area, you'd be lucky to hear anything besides the stations on the Pru and MIT college station WMBR, and perhaps the three stations over at One Financial Place (WERS, WHRB, WFNX) may cut through a bit due to proximity. I'd be surprised if you could've gotten a clean, consistent signal on 102.5 on a portable in Kendall Square, or of any of the FM-128 stations. I've always found 102.5, as well as WODS 103.3, to be very tough catches on Walkmans in that area, as they are usually covered up by a layered effect of Prudential stations. The others from FM-128, WBUR, WJMN, and WBMX seem to do slightly better there, perhaps the Pru intermod isn't quite as concentrated on their parts of the dial, but not much better. Of course, quality tuners such as most modern car stereos can cope much better with this problem, and may still be able to receive the stations in this area that a portable can't get. On my digital-tuning JVC car stereo I find 99.5 to come in with only slight picket-fencing in that area, but on my Sony Walkman, it doesn't exist. I get a pig-pile of Pru stations. Eli Polonsky From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Dec 3 14:33:31 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 14:33:31 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? In-Reply-To: <20061202081443.71434839A5@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4572E03B.25071.7DE46E@localhost> On 2 Dec 2006 at 13:14, Lee Walus wrote: > Using a cheap Coby portable receiver, I was unable to pickup WCRB 99.5 > at all in Kendall Square Cambridge. This may be due to the tall > buildings and intermodulation distortion but perhaps these coverage > maps are somewhat misleading. Yesterday I drove out to Amherst for the UMass-New Hampshire football game and noted that WCRB 99.5 was a clear signal past Worcester. It started to break up around Sturbridge and was unuseable by the time I reached the Route 84 exit. WKLB 102.5 continued to be listenable awhile longer. It started to breakup at the first Brimfield border- crossing and was gone by the time I hit the Palmer line. I didn't hear any legal ID at all on WKLB either around the noon or the 1:00 hour. Maybe a hastily-whispered ID just didn't come through. Just before the switch, they ID'd clearly as "WKLB-FM Lowell-Boston" I don't know why they shouldn't be just as open about IDing as "WKLB-FM Waltham-Boston." Yesterday morning, before I left, I saw another TV ad about the switch. This time, Keith Lockhart said that WCRB "has moved" as he picked up the Bose radio and moved it. This was followed by the Hallelujah Chorus -- appropriate, since that was also the first piece played by WCRB on 99.5. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From stephanie@gordsven.com Sun Dec 3 17:12:25 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 17:12:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1439.66.65.49.10.1165183945.squirrel@gordsven.com> On Sun, December 3, 2006 15:38, Eli Polonsky wrote: I find 99.5 to come in > with only slight picket-fencing in that area, but on my Sony > Walkman, it doesn't exist. I get a pig-pile of Pru stations. Why haven't all the FM stations in Boston moved to the top of the Pru (or the Hancock building)? I've experienced that mish-mash hash when I'm in that part of town also steph From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sun Dec 3 16:41:20 2006 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 16:41:20 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? In-Reply-To: <4572E03B.25071.7DE46E@localhost> Message-ID: <006601c71723$c5ba8ce0$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> WKLB has been IDing between commercials before the top of the hour, usually around :55. They've been doing this for the past couple years on 99.5, and continue to do the same on 102.5. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf > Of A. Joseph Ross > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 2:34 PM > To: Lee Walus > Cc: boston Radio Interest > Subject: Re: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? > > On 2 Dec 2006 at 13:14, Lee Walus wrote: > > > Using a cheap Coby portable receiver, I was unable to pickup WCRB 99.5 > > at all in Kendall Square Cambridge. This may be due to the tall > > buildings and intermodulation distortion but perhaps these coverage > > maps are somewhat misleading. > > Yesterday I drove out to Amherst for the UMass-New Hampshire football > game and noted that WCRB 99.5 was a clear signal past Worcester. It > started to break up around Sturbridge and was unuseable by the time I > reached the Route 84 exit. WKLB 102.5 continued to be listenable > awhile longer. It started to breakup at the first Brimfield border- > crossing and was gone by the time I hit the Palmer line. > > I didn't hear any legal ID at all on WKLB either around the noon or > the 1:00 hour. Maybe a hastily-whispered ID just didn't come > through. Just before the switch, they ID'd clearly as "WKLB-FM > Lowell-Boston" I don't know why they shouldn't be just as open about > IDing as "WKLB-FM Waltham-Boston." > > Yesterday morning, before I left, I saw another TV ad about the > switch. This time, Keith Lockhart said that WCRB "has moved" as he > picked up the Bose radio and moved it. This was followed by the > Hallelujah Chorus -- appropriate, since that was also the first piece > played by WCRB on 99.5. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Dec 3 17:40:58 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 17:40:58 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? In-Reply-To: <006601c71723$c5ba8ce0$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> References: <4572E03B.25071.7DE46E@localhost> <006601c71723$c5ba8ce0$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612031440y15b2de90u8afb866f6656572e@mail.gmail.com> I was at a breakfast/lunch restaurant today and they had a TV playing CNN. After some kind of feature they put up a slide, "Brought to you by Boston's Classical Station WCRB 99.5". Got it right! If you drive into parts of NH, it's not uncommon to hear classical music on a 99.5... doesn't NH Public Radio have a signal up there in Jackson? As for WKLB: A week or two ago I was in Nashua/Derry/Windham NH and the 102.5 signal was pretty solid though of course once you get near the 102.3 in the Concord area you'd have some trouble picking them up but there's always WOKQ etc From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Dec 3 19:51:12 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:51:12 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? Message-ID: --- Stephanie Weil wrote: > Why haven't all the FM stations in Boston moved to the top of > the Pru (or the Hancock building)? I'd imagine they all would if the FCC would allow them to, but I'm sure there are various potential interference issues that prevent the FCC from allowing them to move, that would result in a situation even worse than what has already been allowed. There are also individual issues with each station due to co- channel and first and second adjacent stations outside of the immediate Boston area that would be too close to the Pru, but just far enough from Newton, or Andover, or Peabody, etc... wherever they're transmitting from now. For example, moving 99.5 to the Pru would probably put it too close to second-adjacent 99.1 WPLM Plymouth, first-adjacent WSKO Wakefield RI and maybe second-adjacent WQRC 99.9 Hyannis. Also, I've heard that the Hancock hasn't allowed any full power transmitters on the roof since a WHUE-FM (now WZLX) transmitter caught fire there in 1982, although they did allow a low-power ten-watt WFNX repeater on 101.3 until it was discontinued when WFNX moved their main transmitter to One Financial last year. Eli Polonsky From mamros@MIT.EDU Sun Dec 3 20:43:26 2006 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:43:26 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:51:12 EST." Message-ID: <200612040143.kB41hQeR025959@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> >For example, moving 99.5 to the Pru would probably put it too >close to second-adjacent 99.1 WPLM Plymouth, first-adjacent >WSKO Wakefield RI and maybe second-adjacent WQRC 99.9 Hyannis. For that matter, what about 102.5? Now that Greater Media controls that signal, you'd think they'd have a big incentive to have WKLB be co-located with most (all?) of their other FMs here. Can anyone think of a co-channel or adjacent station that would block a move of 102.5 to the Pru? (Being licensed to Waltham shouldn't be an issue, since "Framingham's" WROR is on the Pru...) -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From scott@fybush.com Sun Dec 3 21:39:07 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 21:39:07 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? In-Reply-To: <200612040143.kB41hQeR025959@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> References: <200612040143.kB41hQeR025959@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> Message-ID: <45738A4B.2020105@fybush.com> Shawn Mamros wrote: >> For example, moving 99.5 to the Pru would probably put it too >> close to second-adjacent 99.1 WPLM Plymouth, first-adjacent >> WSKO Wakefield RI and maybe second-adjacent WQRC 99.9 Hyannis. > > For that matter, what about 102.5? Now that Greater Media controls > that signal, you'd think they'd have a big incentive to have WKLB > be co-located with most (all?) of their other FMs here. Can anyone > think of a co-channel or adjacent station that would block a move > of 102.5 to the Pru? (Being licensed to Waltham shouldn't be an issue, > since "Framingham's" WROR is on the Pru...) > > WCRB has two problems blocking it from a Pru move. The first, which is entirely insurmountable, is its IF spacing to WUMB, 10.6 MHz down the dial. The FCC has strict spacing rules for stations 10.6 and 10.8 MHz apart, and I believe WCRB at FM128 is already short to WUMB. There is no way to use a directional antenna or terrain-based short-spacing to overcome an IF spacing issue. (Oddly, I note that WCRB co-existed for many years with another Waltham station 10.8 MHz down the dial, WBRS at 91.7. I wonder if anyone near the Brandeis campus ever had trouble with WCRB reception as a result?) I believe WCRB would also be short-spaced to WCDJ 102.3 in Truro if it moved to the Pru, but I'm not certain of that and am away from my usual reference materials. s From wollman@csail.mit.edu Sun Dec 3 22:19:19 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 22:19:19 -0500 Subject: Construction underway on Saw Mill Brook Pkwy. Message-ID: <17779.37815.44059.863211@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> I had some time to kill between getting my car serviced and going to dinner, so I stopped by the WUNR transmitter site in Oak Hill, Newton. There are now substantial signs of work. There is a construction trailer in the driveway, and there is earth-moving equipment behind the building. The tower work is being done by Northeast Towers (who put up a big sign out front with safety placards), and the building permit was issued on September 6th. This permit does not include the work on the building itself; I don't know where that fits relative to the tower construction, or why it was delayed for so long. -GAWollman From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Dec 3 22:54:18 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:54:18 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? Message-ID: --- Scott Fybush wrote: > (Oddly, I note that WCRB co-existed for many years with another > Waltham station 10.8 MHz down the dial, WBRS at 91.7. I wonder > if anyone near the Brandeis campus ever had trouble with WCRB > reception as a result?) Since WBRS has only ever been Class D and 102.5 is very strong in that area due to proximity just a few miles line of sight to Newton, I've never heard of anyone having trouble getting the former WCRB there, and I've been in that area often myself. However, WCRB is one of a number of issues that had always prevented WBRS from being granted a power increase on 91.7. Then they were forced to move to 100.1, but still as a Class D. There were reportedly other internal issues over the years, on and off-air violations, etc... that resulted in the FCC's perception of WBRS not to be in the best of light, which is unfortunate because, despite a prevalent level of amateurism at times, there always have been some people doing quality programming there as well. > I believe WCRB would also be short-spaced to WCDJ 102.3 > in Truro if it moved to the Pru... I was thinking of that too, but I wasn't sure. It's 340 watts, and I've heard that it may not even be on the air at this time, or has been only sporadically. But, that doesn't affect the fact that it would still be protected as long as it's an active license. EP From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Dec 4 01:03:08 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 01:03:08 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? References: Message-ID: <001e01c71769$e56bca40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> An interesting question is whether WCDJ is the reason that 102.5 uses slightly less power than another station (WJMN?) that shares the same multiplexed antenna on the FM-128 tower. One member of this list periodicially posts to that effect but I am not sure that he is correct. As best I can tell, however, the power difference (8.1 kW ERP for 102.5 vs--I believe--8.3 kW for the other station) might be explained by WCRB's forced move from the Channel 4 tower to FM-128, which might have necessitated a reduction from the grandfathered equivalent power that 102.5 used from the Needham tower (equivalent to 50 kW at 500' HAAT) to the new Class B equivalent power (equivalent to 50 kW at 150m HAAT; 150m is only 492'). The slightly shorter distance from FM-128 to Truro might also explain the power difference, but I've never been able to confirm that that IS the reason. If the shorter spacing is the reason--or if short spacing to 102.3 in NH is the reason--I would think that Greater Media might now be willing to pay for the installation of directional antennas at either or both of these first-adjacent stations. Compared with the $100+ million that GM reportedly paid for the 102.5 signal, the cost of a couple of DAs would be chump change. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eli Polonsky" To: "Boston Radio" Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 10:54 PM Subject: Re: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? > > --- Scott Fybush wrote: > > > (Oddly, I note that WCRB co-existed for many years with another > > Waltham station 10.8 MHz down the dial, WBRS at 91.7. I wonder > > if anyone near the Brandeis campus ever had trouble with WCRB > > reception as a result?) > > Since WBRS has only ever been Class D and 102.5 is very strong > in that area due to proximity just a few miles line of sight to > Newton, I've never heard of anyone having trouble getting the > former WCRB there, and I've been in that area often myself. > > However, WCRB is one of a number of issues that had always > prevented WBRS from being granted a power increase on 91.7. > > Then they were forced to move to 100.1, but still as a Class > D. There were reportedly other internal issues over the years, > on and off-air violations, etc... that resulted in the FCC's > perception of WBRS not to be in the best of light, which is > unfortunate because, despite a prevalent level of amateurism > at times, there always have been some people doing quality > programming there as well. > > > I believe WCRB would also be short-spaced to WCDJ 102.3 > > in Truro if it moved to the Pru... > > I was thinking of that too, but I wasn't sure. It's 340 > watts, and I've heard that it may not even be on the air > at this time, or has been only sporadically. But, that > doesn't affect the fact that it would still be protected > as long as it's an active license. > > EP > From paul@derrynh.net Mon Dec 4 07:15:50 2006 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 07:15:50 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612031440y15b2de90u8afb866f6656572e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00be01c7179d$f055d610$0202a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> 102.3 (WWHK) begins to interfere with 102.5 in the Northern 1/2 of Manchester. Once past the Hooksett Tolls, the bleed all but wipes out 102.5 Now, except for the "dip" in 93 at the Bow-Concord line, 99.5 can be heard reasonably well almost to the Lakes Region on 93 and to the Warner area heading North(west) on 89. NHPR doesn't play much music (though you are correct that they have a full-serve signal at 99.5 in Jackson) -Paul Hopfgarten Derry -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 5:41 PM To: Jeff Lehmann; boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? I was at a breakfast/lunch restaurant today and they had a TV playing CNN. After some kind of feature they put up a slide, "Brought to you by Boston's Classical Station WCRB 99.5". Got it right! If you drive into parts of NH, it's not uncommon to hear classical music on a 99.5... doesn't NH Public Radio have a signal up there in Jackson? As for WKLB: A week or two ago I was in Nashua/Derry/Windham NH and the 102.5 signal was pretty solid though of course once you get near the 102.3 in the Concord area you'd have some trouble picking them up but there's always WOKQ etc From paul@derrynh.net Mon Dec 4 07:20:00 2006 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 07:20:00 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00bf01c7179e$856970e0$0202a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> Wouldn't the issue for 99.5 actually be that it couldn't put a city grade signal into Lowell if the TX was at the pru. (The reason 93.7 can come no closer than Peabody with it's TX, to keep a COL signal into Lawrence) What I don't understand is why these stations would follow the 107.3 example (Moving COL from Worcester to Westborough) and move the COL as tight into Boston as engineering could allow.... -Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Eli Polonsky Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 7:51 PM To: Boston Radio Subject: Re: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? --- Stephanie Weil wrote: > Why haven't all the FM stations in Boston moved to the top of > the Pru (or the Hancock building)? For example, moving 99.5 to the Pru would probably put it too close to second-adjacent 99.1 WPLM Plymouth, first-adjacent WSKO Wakefield RI and maybe second-adjacent WQRC 99.9 Hyannis. Eli Polonsky From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Dec 4 10:38:06 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:38:06 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? In-Reply-To: <00be01c7179d$f055d610$0202a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> References: <1fbbbced0612031440y15b2de90u8afb866f6656572e@mail.gmail.com> <00be01c7179d$f055d610$0202a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612040738w65fb0b09od1a3f9d73600b82f@mail.gmail.com> >>NHPR doesn't play much music (though you are correct that they have a full-serve signal at 99.5 in Jackson) Right--I had heard them doing some classical while driving in that part of N.H.,(at one of the times they were in music mode) and they ID'd as part of NHPR; WEVJ, Jackson. From ewerme@comcast.net Mon Dec 4 11:43:43 2006 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 11:43:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? Message-ID: <20061204164343.CEAA3485C0@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> > If you drive into parts of NH, it's not uncommon to hear classical > music on a 99.5... True, as of late last week.... > doesn't NH Public Radio have a signal up there in Jackson? And everywhere else! From www.nhpr.org: # 88.3, Nashua, WEVS # 89.1, Concord, WEVO # 90.3, Nashua, WEVO # 90.7, Keene, WEVN # 91.3, Littleton, WEVO # 91.3, Hanover, WEVH # 97.3, Plymouth # 99.5, Jackson, WEVJ # 103.9, Portsmouth # 104.3, Dover, WEVO # 107.1, Gorham, WEVC However, the only music programs they have are a few non-classical programs mainly weekend nights. WEVO has long had a repeater in Nashua, a year or two ago they managed to find another frequency. I thought they were going to shut down the first repeater, but I guess not. I'm not sure who benefits from them, 89.1 is usually the strongest signal on the highway in Nashua. > As for WKLB: A week or two ago I was in Nashua/Derry/Windham NH and > the 102.5 signal was pretty solid though of course once you get near > the 102.3 in the Concord area > you'd have some trouble picking them up but there's always WOKQ etc One thing I would do was listen to WCRB 102.5 through the Hooksett tolls between Manchester and Concord, then switch to WCNH-LPFM a few miles later. WCNH came on the air a couple years ago to bring classical music back to Concord (a lot of WEVO supporters are still mad at them for going essentially all-talk). Unfortunately, WCNH braodcasts at 94.7, one channel away from the 900 pound gorilla WHOM at 94.9. WCNH's signal gets lost by the time it gets to Penaook where I live, about 8-10 miles from the transmitter. See http://www.wcnh.org/coverage.asp for more. A lot of their programming is from the "Beethoven Satellite Network", from WFMT in Chicago with Peter Van de Graff, a fine name in radio interference! :-) -Ric Werme From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Dec 4 13:00:55 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:00:55 -0500 Subject: up date of WBZ website In-Reply-To: <000501c70046$4f681380$3c9e05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <030401c70041$f162b280$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <000501c70046$4f681380$3c9e05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <20061204180108.E59F044C117@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> I have been asked to do an update of the WBZ history on their website, which hadn't really been done since Scott and I began working on it in 1996-- and I know a lot has happened since then! If anyone knows somebody or something that has been omitted (I'm obviously gonna work on the past decade, plus I want to do a tribute to David Brudnoy), feel free to mention it so I can make sure this time, it's perfect... or reasonably perfect... From elipolo@earthlink.net Mon Dec 4 14:45:03 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:45:03 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? Message-ID: --- Aaron Read wrote: > But that IF spacing is the reason why the FCC denied WBRS's > attempts to become a Class A and still remain on 91.7FM. > Having spoken with FCC officials, that was the only reason > why they were denied on 91.7FM. > > I imagine it's possible that had the 91.7FM 100 watt move been > tried today it might've been approved b/c engineers have access > to far more accurate signal plotting software that just didn't > exist back in the early 1980's. So it's possible that software > could've demonstrated the IF interference would've remained > minimal. Perhaps the 102.5 RF issue could have been overcome today, but you would have had to contend with the crafty Pat Montieth at WUMB. Although Waltham and surrounding communities are outside the protected first-adjacent coverage area of her main Quincy transmitter at 91.9, she would have spared no expense fighting you tooth and nail on many fronts, and even if she didn't have a leg to stand on from a technical perspective, she would have managed to prevail somehow, and have blocked your application. From lglavin@mail.com Mon Dec 4 15:45:00 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:45:00 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? Message-ID: <20061204204503.311D51F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan Strassberg" >To: "Eli Polonsky" , "Boston Radio" , "Garrett Wollman" , "Scott Fybush" >Subject: Re: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? >Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 01:03:08 -0500 >An interesting question is whether WCDJ is the reason that 102.5 uses >slightly less power than another station (WJMN?) that shares the same >multiplexed antenna on the FM-128 tower. One member of this list >periodicially posts to that effect but I am not sure that he is correct. As >best I can tell, however, the power difference (8.1 kW ERP for 102.5 vs--I >believe--8.3 kW for the other station) might be explained by WCRB's >forced move from the Channel 4 tower to FM-128, which might have >necessitated a reduction from the grandfathered equivalent power that 102.5 >used from the Needham tower (equivalent to 50 kW at 500' HAAT) to the new >Class B equivalent power (equivalent to 50 kW at 150m HAAT; 150m is only >492'). No, the "other station" to which I referred was WBOS 92.9 when its MAIN transmitter utilized the Route 128 tower. I'm quite sure it ran 8,800 watts from the antenna located on the pole above the tower structure. That figure sticks in my memory bank because I recall being a bit surprised that WCRB's CP after they were banished from the WBZ-TV tower called for 8,100 watts. I surmised it was due to the 102.3 unbuilt CP in Truro, ALTHOUGH WBCN was operating with a full-power non-directional antenna atop the Pru while WOCN-FM 103.9 was also on-the-air from a tower in Harwich! I believe, for some reason, WJMN has even more power higher up according to fcc.gov: 9,200 watts at 353 meters. And since a year ago October, one antenna on the pole no longer exists...but the FCC's website still lists facilities as if it did. Then again, it lists WSMN-AM 1590 as 5,000 watts DA-1. Go figure. -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From Joe@attorneyross.com Mon Dec 4 15:56:15 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:56:15 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4574451F.4653.8EBC47@localhost> Well, now that I've had a chance to monitor this from my office, it's clear: The 99.5 signal is much cleaner, without all the interference that I was experiencing with 102.5. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Mon Dec 4 16:37:27 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:37:27 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? Message-ID: -- Aaron Read wrote: > 91.5 and 91.7 are terrible frequencies to be on around here > anyways...way too crowded. Even though WBRS gets dopeslapped > by WWFX to the west, they've got a nice clear spectrum on > 100.1 to the east...so you can ever hear them in Boston with > a good radio. 100.1 is better than what became of 91.7 for WBRS for sure, but since WWFX increased power in the late 1990's I find that anywhere east of about Allston or Watertown where WBRS signal weakens, that the WWFX signal just about matches theirs. I get WBRS solid through Newton, Watertown, Brighton, Allston, but in Boston (and it's inner urban neighborhoods), Cambridge, and Somerville right out to the water I get a picket fencing effect in the car of both WBRS and WWFX alternating. At my apartment in Somerville I get WBRS or WWFX with equal strength depending on my antenna orientation. I can null out one to get the other (odd considering that they're both west of me). WBRS WAS better on 91.7 many decades ago. I remember when they started out in 1968 with no other significant signals on that or adjacent frequencies. U Mass Lowell, then Lowell Tech, may have had WLTI 91.5 at much lower power than the present WUML, but that didn't get within Route 128. WMFO, WMLN, WUMB and WMWM did not yet exist. 91.9 was the ten-watt WHSR Winchester High School Radio, which became a WUMB casualty a decade and a half later. WBRS could be heard clearly and steadily all over greater Boston, then it gradually began getting hemmed in. Class D WRBB came on at Northeastern at 91.7 (now 104.9) in 1970, blocking WBRS out of downtown. WMFO came on around that time as well, WMLN a few years later, WLTI increased, then WUMB came on in 1982. WBRS was toast on 91.7 after that. EP From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Dec 4 16:39:49 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:39:49 -0500 Subject: Coverage - 99.5 vs. 102.5 which is "better"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17780.38309.987230.578468@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > 91.9 was the ten-watt WHSR Winchester High School Radio, which > became a WUMB casualty a decade and a half later. A few years ago, we heard from Pat Monteith about this. She said, on her honor, that WUMB-FM did not bump Winchester -- Boston's protected contour doesn't reach far enough to have killed WHSR. -GAWollman From lglavin@mail.com Tue Dec 5 17:00:53 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:00:53 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming Message-ID: <20061205220054.5B90B478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> I just got an e-mail from WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM offering me an opportunity to vote on whom I'd like to hear from noon-till-3 pm: Ed Schultz; Thom HartmannThom Hartmann; or Al Franken. I chose Thom HartmannThom Hartmann because I don't care for Ed Schultz and I believe Al Franken will pull a Jerry Springer (no he will not dance on TV) and leave radio for new ventures. The e-mail provided a click through for the Discussion Board which had current entries, although one cannot access it directly through bostonsprogressivetalk.com. -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From aerie.ma@comcast.net Tue Dec 5 17:31:29 2006 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 17:31:29 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <20061205220054.5B90B478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <200612052231.kB5MVNHT018651@rolinin.bostonradio.org> The link to the discussion board from their main page is gone, but you can still access it from the "Contact" link button. "The e-mail provided a click through for the Discussion Board which had current entries, although one cannot access it directly through bostonsprogressivetalk.com." From markwats@comcast.net Tue Dec 5 19:02:34 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 19:02:34 -0500 Subject: Staff Cuts At Kiss 108 & JAM'N 94.5 Message-ID: <003d01c718c9$d587ac00$9447da18@Mark> Today's (12/5) Boston Herald reports that Clear Channel has cut 5 staffers at WXKS-FM (Kiss 108) and WJMN (JAM'N 94.5). Kiss 108 midday host Deirdre Dagata, JAM'N 94.5 staffers let go include night host Maverik, Hustle Simmons, mix show host Roy Barboza and production director Doug MacAskill. The report also states that the midday slots on both Kiss & JAM'N will be filled by hosts who will be "importing" their shows from New York & Los Angeles. I guess "importing" must be the new and politically correct term for "voicetracking". Here's a link to the Herald story: http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=170514 Voicetracked, oops, "imported" midday shifts on 2 top rated Boston stations. I believe they both have had voicetracked overnights for a while now. Will they voicetrack/import more shifts down the road? Mark Watson From marklaurence@mac.com Wed Dec 6 00:08:52 2006 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 00:08:52 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <20061205220054.5B90B478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061205220054.5B90B478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <900C3FE7-2937-4639-B8B4-D1EC86ED70F9@mac.com> On Dec 5, 2006, at 5:00 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: > I just got an e-mail from WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM offering me an > opportunity to > vote on whom I'd like to hear from noon-till-3 pm: Ed Schultz; > Thom HartmannThom Hartmann; or Al Franken. That doesn't sound like a station ready to pull the plug and switch to brokered programming. But of course in radioland, far more irrational things have happened. Mark From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Dec 6 00:33:11 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:33:11 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <900C3FE7-2937-4639-B8B4-D1EC86ED70F9@mac.com> References: <20061205220054.5B90B478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> <900C3FE7-2937-4639-B8B4-D1EC86ED70F9@mac.com> Message-ID: <20061206053312.6A8C344C12C@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> >Mark wrote-- >That doesn't sound like a station ready to pull the plug and switch >to brokered programming. But of course in radioland, far more >irrational things have happened. I assume they are keeping things as "normal" as possible during the month, so they can get whatever advertising business is still out there. But they've already announced the LA station which is also owned by CC and is also changing will be going Spanish... From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Dec 6 01:14:12 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:14:12 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <20061205220054.5B90B478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <45761964.29713.5C756F@localhost> On 5 Dec 2006 at 17:00, Laurence Glavin wrote: > I just got an e-mail from WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM offering me an opportunity > to vote on whom I'd like to hear from noon-till-3 pm: Ed Schultz; > Thom HartmannThom Hartmann; or Al Franken. I chose Thom HartmannThom > Hartmann because I don't care for Ed Schultz and I believe Al Franken > will pull a Jerry Springer (no he will not dance on TV) and leave > radio for new ventures. The e-mail provided a click through for the > Discussion Board which had current entries, although one cannot access > it directly through bostonsprogressivetalk.com. Why would they be doing this if they're planning to kill the format in a couple of weeks? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 6 03:17:31 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 03:17:31 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <20061206053312.6A8C344C12C@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <20061205220054.5B90B478081@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> <900C3FE7-2937-4639-B8B4-D1EC86ED70F9@mac.com> <20061206053312.6A8C344C12C@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612060017o284f75a0p6f589f9990f7514c@mail.gmail.com> Meanwhile Boston Radio Watch reports that the black talk network is back on WILD, and WTKK's secondary HD channel has switched from classical to Irish music. (By the way I have sampled WKLB's HD-2 channel, classic country, via the website--not bad but they need more 50s and 60s...) http://www.bostonradiowatch.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed Dec 6 10:09:13 2006 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:09:13 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <45761964.29713.5C756F@localhost> References: <45761964.29713.5C756F@localhost> Message-ID: <4576DD19.5070506@cssinc.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 5 Dec 2006 at 17:00, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > >> I just got an e-mail from WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM offering me an opportunity >> to vote on whom I'd like to hear from noon-till-3 pm: Ed Schultz; >> Thom HartmannThom Hartmann; or Al Franken. I chose Thom HartmannThom >> Hartmann because I don't care for Ed Schultz and I believe Al Franken >> will pull a Jerry Springer (no he will not dance on TV) and leave >> radio for new ventures. The e-mail provided a click through for the >> Discussion Board which had current entries, although one cannot access >> it directly through bostonsprogressivetalk.com. >> > > Why would they be doing this if they're planning to kill the format > in a couple of weeks? > > I would assume that promotions like this are set up weeks in advance to put the mechanisms in place. It could simply be that the machine was prepaid and is dutifully rolling on as previously instructed. Its kind of like the theory that answering machines will still exist after human life ends. Brian From lglavin@mail.com Wed Dec 6 13:18:20 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:18:20 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming Message-ID: <20061206181821.4EA2D1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Donna Halper" >To: "Mark Laurence" , "Laurence Glavin" >Subject: Re: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming >Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:33:11 >I assume they are keeping things as "normal" as possible during the >month, so they can get whatever advertising business is still out >there. But they've already announced the LA station which is also >owned by CC and is also changing will be going Spanish... Holy crap, Batman...that's the flagship station of the "Stephanie Miller Show"! -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Dec 6 13:23:31 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:23:31 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <20061206181821.4EA2D1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061206181821.4EA2D1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20061206182332.4ACBC645AF4@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 01:18 PM 12/6/2006, Laurence Glavin wrote: >Holy crap, Batman...that's the flagship station of the >"Stephanie Miller Show"! And the Jones Radio network is NOT happy about it, said my well-informed source. Contrary to myths about the "failures" of Air America, Jones personnel were both profitable and getting respectable 25-44 ratings. From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 6 13:25:09 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:25:09 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming References: <20061206181821.4EA2D1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <002301c71963$e0dec120$19eefea9@satpro4600> Fear not. Stephanie's show began airing before KTLK started running progressive talk and before the station took on the KTLK calls, which had been on 760 in Denver. There are other studio facilities in LA. Steph et al will probably move back to the one from which the show started. And the KTLK calls may return to Denver. I would think that Clear Channel would want to park them again somewhere. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Donna Halper" ; "Mark Laurence" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:18 PM Subject: Re: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Donna Halper" > >To: "Mark Laurence" , "Laurence Glavin" > >Subject: Re: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming > >Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:33:11 > > >I assume they are keeping things as "normal" as possible during the > >month, so they can get whatever advertising business is still out > >there. But they've already announced the LA station which is also > >owned by CC and is also changing will be going Spanish... > > Holy crap, Batman...that's the flagship station of the > "Stephanie Miller Show"! > > > -- > > Search for products and services at: > http://search.mail.com > > From aerie.ma@comcast.net Wed Dec 6 13:28:37 2006 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:28:37 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <20061206182332.4ACBC645AF4@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <004901c71964$58d38670$1a8e3f81@CurleyJoe> Doesn't AAR's "the Young Turks" also originate from KTLK? -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:24 PM To: Laurence Glavin Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming At 01:18 PM 12/6/2006, Laurence Glavin wrote: >Holy crap, Batman...that's the flagship station of the >"Stephanie Miller Show"! And the Jones Radio network is NOT happy about it, said my well-informed source. Contrary to myths about the "failures" of Air America, Jones personnel were both profitable and getting respectable 25-44 ratings. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 6 14:02:46 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:02:46 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <004901c71964$58d38670$1a8e3f81@CurleyJoe> References: <20061206182332.4ACBC645AF4@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> <004901c71964$58d38670$1a8e3f81@CurleyJoe> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612061102n34c8add5xd89da066cdeec5df@mail.gmail.com> This has happened to Steph before; the show she did for ABC, originating from KABC in LA, got pulled from the lineup of her "flagship" though some of her other affiliates, like WRKO, kept running it. A link on her site enabled listeners to continue to hear the show via a stream from one of her stations (I forget which one). Then ABC pulled the plug completely (June of 2000, IIRC) See: http://members.cox.net/rwagoner/columns/2000/mar1000.html From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 6 14:44:00 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:44:00 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming References: <004901c71964$58d38670$1a8e3f81@CurleyJoe> Message-ID: <000d01c7196e$e375e5c0$19eefea9@satpro4600> I think two of the three Turks work out of LA (maybe at KTLK), but the other one works out of New York (at least some of the time). The show is not heard in New York City. WWRL has a profitable local AM drive show and would not clear the time. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hall" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:28 PM Subject: RE: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming > Doesn't AAR's "the Young Turks" also originate from KTLK? > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Donna Halper > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:24 PM > To: Laurence Glavin > Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming > > At 01:18 PM 12/6/2006, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > >Holy crap, Batman...that's the flagship station of the > >"Stephanie Miller Show"! > > And the Jones Radio network is NOT happy about it, said my > well-informed source. Contrary to myths about the "failures" of Air > America, Jones personnel were both profitable and getting respectable > 25-44 ratings. > From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Wed Dec 6 14:25:42 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:25:42 -0500 Subject: KMOX DXing in Boston/New NEgland.... Message-ID: <050a01c7196c$a5b95f20$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Has anyone picked up KMOX here in the Boston area? I know WBNW is there......but if you get enough away from BNW...can anyone pick up KMOX with any regularity? Don From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 6 15:24:43 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:24:43 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <000d01c7196e$e375e5c0$19eefea9@satpro4600> References: <004901c71964$58d38670$1a8e3f81@CurleyJoe> <000d01c7196e$e375e5c0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612061224j6d0b8a5ep7f2d6aba008bc9d9@mail.gmail.com> Meanwhile at the bottom of an article about the Met Opera, today's Globe quotes a Clear Channel honcho admitting that changes will come to 1200 and 1430 and details will be released soon, as Air America will be "history" http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2006/12/06/the_met_expands_its_live_performance_broadcasts/ I assume that means the prog talk format is totally gone though the way it's worded it might mean (though I doubt it) that only AAR programs are being dumped. If prog talk does indeed exit, you wonder if the likes of Miller, Hartmann, and Schultz could find a home elsewhere: WRKO or WTKK? (even if tape delayed)...or via a new owner for 1090 or 1510...? From SChace@spectro.com Wed Dec 6 13:32:02 2006 From: SChace@spectro.com (Chace, Stephen) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:32:02 -0500 Subject: TEXT button on car radio Message-ID: Hi, Lurker coming out of the shadows to ask a burning question: How does the TEXT system for pulling call letters and sometimes song info work? Maybe 50% of stations in our area are using it, at least for station ID. Fewer use it for song ID. Stephen Chace From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Dec 6 16:57:36 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:57:36 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <000d01c7196e$e375e5c0$19eefea9@satpro4600> References: <004901c71964$58d38670$1a8e3f81@CurleyJoe> <000d01c7196e$e375e5c0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <20061206215737.2AFF664481A@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 02:44 PM 12/6/2006, Dan Strassberg wrote: >I think two of the three Turks work out of LA (maybe at KTLK), but the other >one works out of New York (at least some of the time). The show is not heard >in New York City. WWRL has a profitable local AM drive show and would not >clear the time. They are currently pursuing other options for LA and elsewhere, given that they own the rights to their own program. AAR has been broadcasting them, but they could go with Jones or do it themselves. From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Dec 6 17:00:13 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:00:13 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612061224j6d0b8a5ep7f2d6aba008bc9d9@mail.gmail.co m> References: <004901c71964$58d38670$1a8e3f81@CurleyJoe> <000d01c7196e$e375e5c0$19eefea9@satpro4600> <1fbbbced0612061224j6d0b8a5ep7f2d6aba008bc9d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061206220014.75C256455BF@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> And Bob N wrote-- >I assume that means the prog talk format is totally gone though the >way it's worded it might mean (though I doubt it) that only AAR >programs are being dumped. If prog talk does indeed exit, you wonder >if the likes of Miller, Hartmann, and Schultz could find a home >elsewhere: My well-informed sources at Jones say they are working on that, but no news yet. Hartmann right now is syndicated by AAR but I believe that, like the Young Turks, he holds the rights to syndicate himself if he so chooses. I hope somebody picks up Schultz and Miller, since whether or not one likes their politics, both are entertaining and profitable. From markwa1ion@aol.com Wed Dec 6 22:29:46 2006 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:29:46 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C8E7C713AC6905-A64-1BF7@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> My attitude is that WXKS-1430 should either pick up (1) a good upbeat standards / big-band / hot jazz / Broadway format (something like '80s-era WNEW-1130 NYC Jazzbeaux Collins Blue Grotto - Milkman's Matinee; or like Bill Marlowe's old local gigs) (2) an oldies format that de-emphasizes disco and turns up the flame for 1954-1964 R&B / doo-wop / rockabilly instead. In other words, the "anti-WODS". For a canned format, the True Oldies package abandoned by WCRN-830 a year or so back would suffice. Not perfect but passable compared to the "oldies" farce that is 103.3. WKOX-1200 should STAY IN FRAMINGHAM; go 50 kW day & night and be a news-dominated WBZ-like FULL SERVICE station covering Metro-West: the area bounded by Route 128 on the inside, Route 495 on the outside, Route 3 (Burlington-Lowell segment) on the north and Route 1 (Dedham-Attleborough) on the south. This is a highly-populated and affluent area that needs to have coverage more specialized and local than what Boston and Worcester stations can offer. Concord on 1120 should be (but isn't) doing that job. 1470 that used to be Marlborough's local is now a total waste: it turned into something as flamingly useless as the once-proud neighborhood stations in Quincy (WJDA) and Salem (WESX). The Ashland thing on 650 gets out about as well as a phone made of paper cups and a string. And its format: of course even yet more foreign junk. I think the objective is to make it totally unnecessary for immigrants ever to learn English. We have enough brokered religious stations, political axe-to-grind talkers, and ethnic things. Radio should be a little more fun (a la mid-'60s) instead of the dreary landscape we're getting now. Just my 2 cents. Mark Connelly - Billerica, MA ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. From wollman@csail.mit.edu Wed Dec 6 22:53:59 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 22:53:59 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <8C8E7C713AC6905-A64-1BF7@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C8E7C713AC6905-A64-1BF7@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <17783.36951.307581.572994@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < WKOX-1200 should STAY IN FRAMINGHAM; You might as well forget about that; it ain't gonna happen. WKOX will have moved to Newton by the end of 2007. (I, for one, don't mind its departure; now if only something could be done about the other AM breathing down my neck, WBIX 1060....) -GAWollman From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Dec 7 03:49:15 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 03:49:15 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <17783.36951.307581.572994@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <8C8E7C713AC6905-A64-1BF7@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> <17783.36951.307581.572994@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612070049v1c509ae9u5702afb38a2fe7e4@mail.gmail.com> Boston Herald article says that it most likely will go Spanish, AND there are ads out looking for sales staff for "Rumba 1200/1430". The article says the power boost should happen around August. http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=170893 It would be interesting if the likes of a WRKO or WTKK might pick up Schultz, Miller, or Hartmann, even if tape delayed. Would the Red Sox owners prefer their games serve as a lead in to Michael Savage or to (delayed) Steph Miller (who had aired in that time slot on WRKO before; and recently it was said Savage's ratings dropped quite a bit on 'RKO...) --Bob From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Dec 7 03:52:09 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 03:52:09 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612070049v1c509ae9u5702afb38a2fe7e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <8C8E7C713AC6905-A64-1BF7@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> <17783.36951.307581.572994@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <1fbbbced0612070049v1c509ae9u5702afb38a2fe7e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612070052o35518796n3fca451da586bafe@mail.gmail.com> I also wouldn't mind a format like what Mark mentioned (there are some stations like that, 'Music With Class'; etc., and oldies that go a bit further back than a WODS would). But again, CC seems to be going with Spanish and the Herald article said CC has launched Spanish stations in over two dozen markets... From hykker@grolen.com Thu Dec 7 07:26:00 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:26:00 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <8C8E7C713AC6905-A64-1BF7@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C8E7C713AC6905-A64-1BF7@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061207072101.019daa70@grolen.com> markwa1ion@aol.com wrote: >My attitude is that WXKS-1430 should either pick up >(1) a good upbeat standards / big-band / hot jazz / Broadway format >(something like '80s-era WNEW-1130 NYC Jazzbeaux Collins Blue Grotto >- Milkman's Matinee; or like Bill Marlowe's old local gigs) > >(2) an oldies format that de-emphasizes disco and turns up the flame >for 1954-1964 R&B / doo-wop / rockabilly instead. In other words, >the "anti-WODS". For a canned format, the True Oldies package >abandoned by WCRN-830 a year or so back would suffice. Not perfect >but passable compared to the "oldies" farce that is 103.3. Ain't gonna happen. The early-2000s "real" oldies fad was pretty much CC's idea and how many of those stations are left? The fact is...neither of the above-mentioned formats attract enough listeners and/or advertisers to make them worth the effort. WODS's evolution is what saved the station from irrelevance like so many other oldies stations. If they were still playing Rick Nelson & the Big Bopper they wouldn't be where they are today. Like it or not, Hispanics are the fastest-growing minority group in the country and there isn't much programming targeted toward them in the area. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.5/564 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Dec 7 11:23:16 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:23:16 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612070049v1c509ae9u5702afb38a2fe7e4@mail.gmail.co m> References: <8C8E7C713AC6905-A64-1BF7@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> <17783.36951.307581.572994@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <1fbbbced0612070049v1c509ae9u5702afb38a2fe7e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061207162318.420FCD2F2@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 03:49 AM 12/7/2006, Bob Nelson wrote: >Boston Herald article says that it most likely will go Spanish, AND there are >ads out looking for sales staff for "Rumba 1200/1430". The article says the >power boost should happen around August. So you see, I was telling the truth when I said this is what I'd heard. I still think the progressive format can work, but the way it needs to be done is with a combination of live and local hosts and the best of the national hosts-- Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller are both stable and profitable, thanks to the hard work of the folks at the Jones Radio Network, and while we may not see an all-progressive format in the market, it would make sense for some station to pick up a mainstream progressive talker like Schultz, who has some excellent 25-54 numbers nationally and is in the top 10 despite being on some pretty crappy signals in a number of markets. (Btw, lest I seem as if I am shilling for Ed, I barely know the guy. I am talking as a consultant here-- of all the progressive hosts, he is the most moderate, has the most listeners, and understands that you need to be entertaining and not just "preach to the choir".) From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Dec 7 11:58:15 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:58:15 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <20061207162318.420FCD2F2@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <8C8E7C713AC6905-A64-1BF7@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> <17783.36951.307581.572994@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <1fbbbced0612070049v1c509ae9u5702afb38a2fe7e4@mail.gmail.com> <20061207162318.420FCD2F2@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612070858g1764261bvc9e9e92d48bfcb6e@mail.gmail.com> >> I still think the progressive format can work, but the way it needs to be done is with a combination of live and local hosts and the best of the national hosts-- Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller Yes, and I've been mentioning the need for local hosts, too--in a place like Boston I couldn't see why they couldn't find somebody (pluck someone fresh out of college radio, maybe) to get a show going. Of course they were committed to running Miller, Franken, and Schultz so where could a local show go in the lineup? (Unless they put him/her on 3-6 pm and delayed Schultz). WRKO, WTKK, and WBZ all have local hosts; WTTT* and the progtalkers did not (and I mean daily, not weekly...) *--did have Don Feder for awhile though IIRC From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Dec 7 12:20:08 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:20:08 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612070858g1764261bvc9e9e92d48bfcb6e@mail.gmail.co m> References: <8C8E7C713AC6905-A64-1BF7@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> <17783.36951.307581.572994@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <1fbbbced0612070049v1c509ae9u5702afb38a2fe7e4@mail.gmail.com> <20061207162318.420FCD2F2@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> <1fbbbced0612070858g1764261bvc9e9e92d48bfcb6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061207172010.29A2244D183@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 11:58 AM 12/7/2006, Bob Nelson wrote: >Yes, and I've been mentioning the need for local hosts, too--in a >place like Boston I >couldn't see why they couldn't find somebody (pluck someone fresh >out of college >radio, maybe) to get a show going. Of course they were committed to running >Miller, Franken, and Schultz so where could a local show go in the >lineup? They should have gone live and local late at night and on the weekends, but they never did. They just aired "best of" programs, which in my view, are boring even if they save stations a few bucks. From dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Wed Dec 6 19:37:34 2006 From: dmoisan@davidmoisan.org (David Moisan) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:37:34 -0500 Subject: TEXT button on car radio In-Reply-To: <2647FE5F644B41368B7576A2601304E0@dot.loc> References: <2647FE5F644B41368B7576A2601304E0@dot.loc> Message-ID: >Lurker coming out of the shadows to ask a burning question: How does the TEXT system for pulling call letters and sometimes song info work? That's RDS: Radio Data System. It's transmitted via a subcarrier. From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu Dec 7 14:36:45 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:36:45 -0500 Subject: KMOX DXing in Boston/New NEgland.... Message-ID: > > From: "Don A." > To: > Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:25:42 -0500 > Subject: KMOX DXing in Boston/New NEgland.... > > Has anyone picked up KMOX here in the Boston area? > > I know WBNW is there......but if you get enough away > from BNW...can anyone pick up KMOX with any regularity? I certainly hear them from time to time, but only on nights with the strongest, most prevalent skywave conditions, and even then it sounds distant and weak. EP From nostaticatall@charter.net Thu Dec 7 15:52:41 2006 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 15:52:41 -0500 Subject: KMOX DXing in Boston/New NEgland.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1a98cfbbc0f30b23eb62c2492c22439e@charter.net> I travel to north central Ohio every now and then to see family and even out there, KMOX is one of the weaker 50K clear channel frequencies on the dial. Even WBZ comes in cleaner and stronger than KMOX. So do other distant stations like WSB/Atlanta. Maybe their signal just isn't that loud and it can't penetrate as well through the noise floor like other stations. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Dec 7, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote: >>> From: "Don A." >> To: >> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:25:42 -0500 >> Subject: KMOX DXing in Boston/New NEgland.... >> >> Has anyone picked up KMOX here in the Boston area? >> >> I know WBNW is there......but if you get enough away >> from BNW...can anyone pick up KMOX with any regularity? > > I certainly hear them from time to time, but only on > nights with the strongest, most prevalent skywave > conditions, and even then it sounds distant and weak. > > EP > From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 7 18:02:47 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:02:47 -0500 Subject: KMOX DXing in Boston/New NEgland.... References: <1a98cfbbc0f30b23eb62c2492c22439e@charter.net> Message-ID: <001601c71a53$d47825c0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Check the distances. WBZ gets a few extra miles of good skywave to the west because it's directional and, in effect, sends a 100-kW signal toward Ohio. Columbus is about 650 miles west of WBZ, about 430 miles north of WSB, and about 385 miles east of KMOX. KMOX is far enough away that you should be in the region of pretty strong skywave. A good question is whether KMOX does better in, say, western PA. It's possible. KMOX is almost exactly 1000 miles from WBNW. Using the formulas for Class A AM nighttime skywave coverage that the FCC started using in (I think) the early 90s, that's kind of far to get a good nighttime signal. The protected skywave service (0.5 mV/m 50% skywave) of nondirectional Class A AMs (all but one of which in the US are 50 kW) now extends only a little more than 500 miles. For example, according to the FCC, the protected service areas of 670, 720, 780, and 890 in Chicago extend only about 20 or 30 miles east of Buffalo NY. Hence we have CPs for 720 in DeWitt NY (Syracuse) and Claremont NH and we have WAMG right here. Also, there's a 670 in Portsmouth VA. Somehow, though, 780 seems to have escaped. All I know about in the northeast are one or two Class Ds in Maine with nighttime flea power. Until recently, however, there was 50 kW CKXX on 780 in Dartmouth (Halifax) NS. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tomm" To: "Eli Polonsky" Cc: "Boston Radio" Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: KMOX DXing in Boston/New NEgland.... > I travel to north central Ohio every now and then to see family and > even out there, KMOX is one of the weaker 50K clear channel frequencies > on the dial. Even WBZ comes in cleaner and stronger than KMOX. So do > other distant stations like WSB/Atlanta. Maybe their signal just isn't > that loud and it can't penetrate as well through the noise floor like > other stations. > > Dave Tomm > "Mike Thomas" > > > On Dec 7, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > > >>> From: "Don A." > >> To: > >> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:25:42 -0500 > >> Subject: KMOX DXing in Boston/New NEgland.... > >> > >> Has anyone picked up KMOX here in the Boston area? > >> > >> I know WBNW is there......but if you get enough away > >> from BNW...can anyone pick up KMOX with any regularity? > > > > I certainly hear them from time to time, but only on > > nights with the strongest, most prevalent skywave > > conditions, and even then it sounds distant and weak. > > > > EP > > > From SChace@spectro.com Thu Dec 7 15:51:09 2006 From: SChace@spectro.com (Chace, Stephen) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 15:51:09 -0500 Subject: TEXT button on car radio Message-ID: Thanks! That was enough info to google. Found good article on Wikipedia. Related question: Who decided on the categories listed under the "TYPE" button? Seems odd that country was left out. Stephen Chemist and radio buff -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of David Moisan Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:38 PM To: Boston Radio Subject: RE: TEXT button on car radio >Lurker coming out of the shadows to ask a burning question: How does the TEXT system for pulling call letters and sometimes song info work? That's RDS: Radio Data System. It's transmitted via a subcarrier. From jjlehmann@comcast.net Thu Dec 7 19:05:01 2006 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 19:05:01 -0500 Subject: TEXT button on car radio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002101c71a5c$8d4a5200$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > Related question: Who decided on the categories listed under the "TYPE" > button? Seems odd that country was left out. Country is one of them, in most radios anyway. WKLB and WCTK both transmit RDS with Country as the program type. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From david.wang@liveair.com Thu Dec 7 20:02:52 2006 From: david.wang@liveair.com (David Wang) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:02:52 -0500 Subject: TEXT button on car radio References: <4687CDA6-EB09-4FB9-A676-4A44E1BC4311@liveair.com> Message-ID: > > On December 6, 2006 Stephen Chace wrote: > > Hi, > > Lurker coming out of the shadows to ask a burning question: > > How does the TEXT system for pulling call letters and sometimes > song info > work? Maybe 50% of stations in our area are using it, at least for > station > ID. Fewer use it for song ID. > > Stephen Chace > ------------- > > > The "TEXT" system is RDS in Europe, RBDS here. For song titles and > artists to appear information must be manually tagged in each song, > it then goes from the computer/automation system playing the song > to the RBDS encoder. > here is a sample encoder: > > http://www.sbsfm.com/html/trans/fmb10rds.html > More info on system is available here: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Data_System > > I thought a great use of the system was WEEI-FM who was using it > last year during Sox games to give the score, the pitcher, and > related in-game information. > With IBOC ("HD Radio") this, and more information should be > relatively easy to transmit. > > The future ain't what it used to be. - Yogi Berra > --------------------- > David Wang > President & C.L.O. > LiveAir Communications, Inc. > 339 North Street > Medfield, MA 02052 > 508-359-2700 > 508-359-2701 (fax) > david.wang@liveair.com > > > From markwa1ion@aol.com Thu Dec 7 22:09:54 2006 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:09:54 -0500 Subject: KMOX DXing in Boston/New England In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C8E88D77FC8B5C-C74-5E7F@WEBMAIL-DC03.sysops.aol.com> Besides local WBNW on 1120, the next strongest station is WPRX Bristol, CT with a Spanish format. KMOX comes in third. That's certainly well below any casual-listening comfort level. In the '70s and earlier, KMOX was easy most nights. This is no longer true. Mark Connelly - Billerica, MA << Has anyone picked up KMOX here in the Boston area? I know WBNW is there......but if you get enough away from BNW...can anyone pick up KMOX with any regularity? Don >> ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. From markwa1ion@aol.com Thu Dec 7 22:19:12 2006 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:19:12 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C8E88EC4B8022C-C74-5EE9@WEBMAIL-DC03.sysops.aol.com> At 03:49 AM 12/7/2006, Bob Nelson wrote: >Boston Herald article says that it most likely will go Spanish, AND there are >ads out looking for sales staff for "Rumba 1200/1430". The article says the >power boost should happen around August. And what exactly is the point to having the same programming on these two channels after beefed-up Newton-version WKOX-1200 is up and running ? Where is WXKS-1430 going to have a superior signal at night ... a one-mile radius around its towers next to the Wellington Circle T stop ? 1430 should be running a different format or just be sold or taken dark to save money. Mark Connelly - Billerica, MA ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 8 00:42:29 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:42:29 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20061207072101.019daa70@grolen.com> References: <8C8E7C713AC6905-A64-1BF7@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4578B4F5.3888.5221DB@localhost> On 7 Dec 2006 at 7:26, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Ain't gonna happen. The early-2000s "real" oldies fad was pretty much > CC's idea and how many of those stations are left? I thought the format started on some few independent stations, such as WNBP in Newburyport and the old WHAI in Greenfield. I think they were doing "real" oldies before Clear Channel. WATD still is doing them. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 8 00:42:29 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:42:29 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming In-Reply-To: <8C8E88EC4B8022C-C74-5EE9@WEBMAIL-DC03.sysops.aol.com> References: Message-ID: <4578B4F5.4867.522255@localhost> On 7 Dec 2006 at 22:19, markwa1ion@aol.com wrote: > 1430 should be running a different format or just be sold or taken > dark to save money. I thought that was the plan all along, once WKOX's new signal gets on the air. But until then, it makes sense to have both stations. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 8 00:42:29 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:42:29 -0500 Subject: CBA to move to FM Message-ID: <4578B4F5.26342.5222BC@localhost> The current issue of =Monitoring Times= is reporting that CBA 1070, in Moncton, New Brunswick, has applied to give up its AM signal and move to FM. This may be the last CBC station that can still be heard anywhere in this area at night. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Fri Dec 8 00:51:56 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:51:56 -0500 Subject: CBA to move to FM In-Reply-To: <4578B4F5.26342.5222BC@localhost> References: <4578B4F5.26342.5222BC@localhost> Message-ID: <4578FD7C.1020402@fybush.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > The current issue of =Monitoring Times= is reporting that CBA 1070, > in Moncton, New Brunswick, has applied to give up its AM signal and > move to FM. This may be the last CBC station that can still be heard > anywhere in this area at night. > NERW, Sept. 5, 2006: (http://www.fybush.com/NERW/2006/060905/nerw.html) "*The last CBC Radio One AM signal to bring the news of CANADA across the border to New England could soon move to FM. Fans of the CBC in the US have already weathered the loss of CBL (740 Toronto) and CBM (940 Montreal), and now the CBC is applying for permission to silence the AM signal of CBA (1070 Moncton NB). If the move is approved, CBA would move to 106.1, with 69.5 kW/211 m - and New Brunswick would be down to its last four AM stations." Miss a week, miss a lot... :-) s From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Dec 8 02:16:48 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 02:16:48 -0500 Subject: Rhode Island former anchors....? Message-ID: <044701c71a9a$19b92bc0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Does anyone remember an anchor at Ch 6 in New Bedford/Fall River in the late 70's named "Magee Hickey"...and I could have sworn she went by the name "Mikki Hickey" for awhile. Could this be the same reporter, now at WCBS Ch 2 in NYC? http://wcbstv.com/bios/local_bio_201170319.html My memory was that she was "not so great" on the air....and now working at a big O&O.... Then again, everyone looks and sounds better when they get to the bigger stations, right? From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Dec 8 06:28:47 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 06:28:47 -0500 Subject: CBA to move to FM References: <4578B4F5.26342.5222BC@localhost> <4578FD7C.1020402@fybush.com> Message-ID: <00bd01c71abc$0763e6f0$6501a8c0@pastor2> I had once read somewhere that the reason the CBC hadn't already moved CBA was that ships at sea were dependent upon it for weather forecasts. I gather that's no longer the case(?). Question: What has prompted the mass move to FM in Canada, anyway? It's been happening for years (I think CFNB in Fredericton has been off the air for at least a decade). Is AM THAT much of a relic? Come on. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "A. Joseph Ross" Cc: Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:51 AM Subject: Re: CBA to move to FM > A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > The current issue of =Monitoring Times= is reporting that CBA 1070, > > in Moncton, New Brunswick, has applied to give up its AM signal and > > move to FM. This may be the last CBC station that can still be heard > > anywhere in this area at night. > > > > NERW, Sept. 5, 2006: (http://www.fybush.com/NERW/2006/060905/nerw.html) > > "*The last CBC Radio One AM signal to bring the news of CANADA across > the border to New England could soon move to FM. Fans of the CBC in the > US have already weathered the loss of CBL (740 Toronto) and CBM (940 > Montreal), and now the CBC is applying for permission to silence the AM > signal of CBA (1070 Moncton NB). If the move is approved, CBA would move > to 106.1, with 69.5 kW/211 m - and New Brunswick would be down to its > last four AM stations." > > Miss a week, miss a lot... :-) > > s > From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Dec 8 12:21:56 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:21:56 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming Message-ID: <17102834.1165598516609.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org, > SteveOrdinetz > Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:42:29 -0500 > Subject: Re: WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming > > On 7 Dec 2006 at 7:26, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > > > Ain't gonna happen. The early-2000s "real" oldies fad was pretty > > much CC's idea and how many of those stations are left? > > I thought the format started on some few independent stations, such > as WNBP in Newburyport and the old WHAI in Greenfield. I think they > were doing "real" oldies before Clear Channel. WATD still is doing > them. He was talking about stations that tried "Real Oldies" as a full-time format. As far as I know "Real Oldies" on WATD and WHAI have only been weekend specialty shows. I know that WATD never took it up as a full-time format. I would call their weekday daytime format "local full-service gold-heavy AC" (in other words, AC with a lot of oldies and local news/community service elements). They do have weekend oldies specialty shows that sometimes say "Real Oldies". WNBP was always Adult Standards and Nostalgia/Big Band music in recent years as far as I know, not rock'n'roll oldies. Some examples of CC "Real Oldies" stations that eventually failed include WSAI 1530 Cincinnati and WRLL 1690 Chicago. 1530 has a killer night signal, too. Reaches most of the eastern U.S. Eli Polonsky From lglavin@mail.com Fri Dec 8 14:04:17 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:04:17 -0500 Subject: WCRB Ad In Boston Symphony Program Booklet Message-ID: <20061208190418.0D1D1164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Last night (Thursday) I went to my first Boston Syphony Orchestra concert since the 102.5 to 99.5 switch, and noticed that WCRB had a full-page ad in the program booklet handed out to audience members. It's in black-and-white on the regular paper stock, not color glossy, so it would seem that they could have changed it easily enough, but it still promotes the frequency of 102.5. I wonder if the ad was taken out long-term by Charles River Breeding Laboratories, I mean Broadcasting (I always get them confused), and Nassau doesn't even know it's there. -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From SChace@spectro.com Fri Dec 8 14:43:09 2006 From: SChace@spectro.com (Chace, Stephen) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:43:09 -0500 Subject: TEXT button on car radio Message-ID: Here is the list of categories from my car's TYPE button: R&B CLS/JAZZ EASY LIS ROCK ALERT MISC RELIGION INFORM No Country. Is the list specific to the model of radio? Stephen -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Lehmann [mailto:jjlehmann@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 7:05 PM To: Chace, Stephen; 'Boston Radio' Subject: RE: TEXT button on car radio > Related question: Who decided on the categories listed under the "TYPE" > button? Seems odd that country was left out. Country is one of them, in most radios anyway. WKLB and WCTK both transmit RDS with Country as the program type. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Dec 8 15:31:20 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 15:31:20 -0500 Subject: KMOX DXing in Boston/New NEgland.... References: <1a98cfbbc0f30b23eb62c2492c22439e@charter.net> <001601c71a53$d47825c0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <04be01c71b08$cd12d400$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > The protected > skywave service (0.5 mV/m 50% skywave) of nondirectional Class A AMs (all > but one of which in the US are 50 kW)... Which one is that? Don From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Dec 8 15:58:24 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 15:58:24 -0500 Subject: TEXT button on car radio References: Message-ID: <002801c71b0b$ad16eee0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Just shows the total stupidity of designing software (or firmware)-dependent products with software (or firmware) that isn't easily modifable--ideally by downloading from the signal received over the air. Guess which broadcasting system lacks such a feature ;>( Goes in the "what WERE they thinking" category! -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chace, Stephen" To: "'Boston Radio'" Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: RE: TEXT button on car radio > Here is the list of categories from my car's TYPE button: > > R&B > CLS/JAZZ > EASY LIS > ROCK > ALERT > MISC > RELIGION > INFORM > > No Country. Is the list specific to the model of radio? > > Stephen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Lehmann [mailto:jjlehmann@comcast.net] > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 7:05 PM > To: Chace, Stephen; 'Boston Radio' > Subject: RE: TEXT button on car radio > > > > Related question: Who decided on the categories listed under the "TYPE" > > button? Seems odd that country was left out. > > Country is one of them, in most radios anyway. WKLB and WCTK both transmit > RDS with Country as the program type. > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA From lglavin@mail.com Fri Dec 8 17:10:12 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:10:12 -0500 Subject: Employment Opportunity(?) At WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Message-ID: <20061208221013.9ACBC1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> I heard an announcement earlier today (Fri, 11/08) on WXKS-AM for a sales rep to sell time on Boston's Progressive Talk station! No reference to a Spanish-language requirement. -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From Joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 8 17:24:49 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:24:49 -0500 Subject: Employment Opportunity(?) At WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM In-Reply-To: <20061208221013.9ACBC1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <45799FE1.3346.F9ADBC@localhost> On 8 Dec 2006 Laurence Glavin wrote: > I heard an announcement earlier today (Fri, 11/08) on WXKS-AM > for a sales rep to sell time on Boston's Progressive Talk station! No > reference to a Spanish-language requirement. That sounds like the same announcement they've been using for a long time. Too many things are done automatically these days, and it makes for some very incompetent appearances. Last night, as I was watching TV, a network ad or promo started, then it was cut off by a local ad. Later, a local news promo was cut off by another ad. And, as I previously noted, during last week's changeover, WKLB played the National Anthem as their last record on 99.5, but it was cut off and finished on 102.5. I assume this was all automated, where a human engineer would have had the sense to wait another second to let it finish. I suppose this is in the same category as the frequent dropped verbs and other gramatical glitches caused by bad word processing editing and is a sign of the decline and fall of civilization. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From mamros@MIT.EDU Sat Dec 9 13:16:21 2006 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 13:16:21 -0500 Subject: TEXT button on car radio In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:43:09 EST." Message-ID: <200612091816.kB9IGLua014337@mass-toolpike.mit.edu> >Here is the list of categories from my car's TYPE button: > >R&B >CLS/JAZZ >EASY LIS >ROCK >ALERT >MISC >RELIGION >INFORM > >No Country. Is the list specific to the model of radio? The list of categories is different between European-spec RDS and the US version (known formally as RBDS). The Wikipedia page on RDS (Radio Data System) shows both lists. Your radio could be using the European list - or maybe it just has an abbreviated list? (Both lists have far more than eight categories.) Or - maybe your radio only displays the categories it can actually find on local stations, and for whatever reason it isn't picking up on 102.5's RDS subcarrier. Since most car radios give up on receiving the stereo subcarrier if the signal isn't strong enough, it seems likely it would do the same with the RDS subcarrier. -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Dec 9 23:35:21 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:35:21 -0500 Subject: CBA to move to FM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <457B4839.7753.749CCE@localhost> On 8 Dec 2006 at 14:55, David Allan Boucher wrote: > And given the AM signal's skywave capabilities...would cover a lot of > territory where the population is sparse. (There is a lot of area > with only small villages....Northern territories, Yukon, etc.) I believe they use shortwave to cover the North. I used to pick up the CBC Northern Service years ago, but they've re-directed their signals, and I don't pick them up any more. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From markwats@comcast.net Sun Dec 10 01:13:41 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 01:13:41 -0500 Subject: WMUR Meteorologist Josh Judge Injured In Hit & Run Accident Message-ID: <002501c71c22$57520f90$9447da18@Mark> WMUR (Channel 9 Manchester) meteorologist Josh Judge was injured Friday morning in a hit & run accident in Hampstead NH while on his way to the station for the morning newscast. Judge is hospitalized in Boston recovering from his injuries and police have a warrant out for the other driver who fled the scene. Here's a link to an article on the Boston Globe's website: http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2006/12/09/meteorologist_injured_in_hit_and_run_accident/ Mark Watson From keith.fornal@cox.net Sun Dec 10 03:37:47 2006 From: keith.fornal@cox.net (Keith Fornal) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:37:47 -0500 Subject: Rhode Island former anchors....? In-Reply-To: <044701c71a9a$19b92bc0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <004601c71c36$786f72d0$677ba8c0@celly> That is indeed the same person. I believe she was at WNBC before WCBS. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Don A. Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 2:17 AM To: bri@bostonradio.org Subject: Rhode Island former anchors....? Does anyone remember an anchor at Ch 6 in New Bedford/Fall River in the late 70's named "Magee Hickey"...and I could have sworn she went by the name "Mikki Hickey" for awhile. Could this be the same reporter, now at WCBS Ch 2 in NYC? http://wcbstv.com/bios/local_bio_201170319.html My memory was that she was "not so great" on the air....and now working at a big O&O.... Then again, everyone looks and sounds better when they get to the bigger stations, right? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Dec 10 10:37:29 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:37:29 -0500 Subject: Christmas traditions on Boston radio Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612100737h3b7a6607p4a681c4a658e1c18@mail.gmail.com> Jerry Williams reading A Child's Christmas in Wales. He's no longer with us to do it live but hear it here (via JerryWilliams.org): http://microfurry.250free.com/misc01.m3u Mark Parenteau inviting a bunch of harmonica players to his WBCN show to play Christmas carols The WJIB Christmas Festival of Music ("FM 97"--and I'm sure Bob Bittner's AM incarnation will do something similar just before the holiday) Any others people can remember? Did Norm Nathan, Larry Glick, or others do something similar this time of year? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Dec 10 10:38:58 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:38:58 -0500 Subject: Christmas traditions on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612100737h3b7a6607p4a681c4a658e1c18@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced0612100737h3b7a6607p4a681c4a658e1c18@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612100738w5c885279nf81ec1801139d736@mail.gmail.com> I have thrown Christmas cuts into the blues (and other music) at WMWM this time of year. Does anybody remember a group called Rash of Stabbings? The name was kind of interesting--"Rash of Stabbings In Providence!"--but they did "A Christmas Song", a 12" single: "It's commercial time, it's Christmas time again, right from the start." It goes on to say that the holiday has gotten too commercial and points out the story of Jesus' birth is really what the holiday is about. I also have played cuts from the Boston Rock Christmas EP which had stuff like "Do You Hear What I Hear" by Native Tongue. We still do have some Christmas vinyl at WMWM but in all honesty people have wrecked the needles of the turntables, making such things tough to play. But we still do have some interesting stuff on CD. I also used to play a 45 by the (Irish) Rovers of "the Unicorn" and "Wasn't That A Party" fame. It was on the Attic label out of Toronto. Side A was their version of Elmo and Patsy's "Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer" and I think I liked their version better. On the flip, "Merry Bloody Xmas", a jaunty country tune. "Merry X-mas, to me/ My dog threw up all over the X-mas tree/They repossessed me color TV/ Oh, merry bloody X-mas to me" etc. Sadly I couldn't find that 45 in the box of Christmas stuff at WMWM as of last year... We used to also have stuff like Bob and the Dylantones, which was a guy singing "White Christmas" imitating Dylan's voice, and Tommy and the Greyhounds' novelty hit "It's A Technicolor Christmas when you're Jewish (Because the Moviehouses Never close)". "While other people carol in an open sleigh/We've got a date with Yentl on this special day" From markwats@comcast.net Sun Dec 10 13:36:56 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:36:56 -0500 Subject: Christmas traditions on Boston radio References: <1fbbbced0612100737h3b7a6607p4a681c4a658e1c18@mail.gmail.com> <1fbbbced0612100738w5c885279nf81ec1801139d736@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000a01c71c8a$2c8d49b0$9447da18@Mark> Adding to Bob Nelson's thread: A tradition here in the Merrimack Valley back in the good old days of the 70's & 80's : J.C. (Jim Camilli) would always play as the first Christmas song on his Saturday night WLLH oldies show Thanksgiving weekend (later Sunday only) Roy Orbison's "Pretty Paper". He also played some other Christmas songs that I believe no one else played then or now, such as "Little Becky's Christmas Wish" by Becky Lamb, which was released (judging by the Warner Bros. orange record label) 1966, 67 or 68. A narration with a little girl's wish to have her brother home from Vietnam for Christmas, and "There Won't Be Any Snow" (Christmas In The Jungle) by Derek Roberts, mid-60's Vietnam themed song on Roulette Records, Stan Freberg's "Green Christmas" and Allan Sherman's "The Twelve Gifts of Christmas". I also recall until WBZ went all news/talk in the early 90's, they would play all Christmas music Christmas Eve night through Christmas day. Now they remain with the regular news/talk format on Christmas. Mark Watson From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Dec 10 13:15:48 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:15:48 -0500 Subject: WMUR Meteorologist Josh Judge Injured In Hit & Run Accident In-Reply-To: <002501c71c22$57520f90$9447da18@Mark> References: <002501c71c22$57520f90$9447da18@Mark> Message-ID: <200612101815.kBAIFmhb014714@mac.com> At 01:13 AM 12/10/2006, Mark Watson wrote: > WMUR (Channel 9 Manchester) meteorologist Josh Judge was injured > Friday morning in a hit & run accident in Hampstead NH while on his > way to the station for the morning newscast. Judge is hospitalized > in Boston recovering from his injuries and police have a warrant > out for the other driver who fled the scene. > > Here's a link to an article on the Boston Globe's website: >http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2006/12/09/meteorologist_injured_in_hit_and_run_accident/ > >Mark Watson The info I've seen is that the accident occurred in Windham, Josh lives in Hampstead. As of yesterday afternoon the other driver has been arrested and admits that he was involved and that he fled the scene. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From ewerme@comcast.net Sun Dec 10 10:37:29 2006 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:37:29 -0500 Subject: Christmas traditions on Boston radio Message-ID: <20061210204258.B02C248682@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> > Any others people can remember? Did Norm Nathan, Larry Glick, or > others do something similar this time of year? It was never at "this time of year," but Richard L Kaye on WCRB Saturday Night would play Stan Freberg's "Green Chri$tma$," a piece very loosely adapted from Dicken's "A Christmas Carol." He'd play it the Saturday after seeing the first piece of Christmas advertising in October. Or September. Or .... http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Demento-Presents-Greatest-Christmas/dp/B00000348G/sr=1-1/qid=1165782900/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-9753318-2578536?ie=UTF8&s=music In stock! Buy! Gift! Keep the Xmas spirits! Oh - it also has Allan Sherman's "Twelve days of Christmas" with the olde Partridge in a Pear Tree updated to a six transistor radio. I wonder how many transistors are in a typical cheap radio these days. -Ric Werme From m1bz@hotmail.com Sun Dec 10 16:01:08 2006 From: m1bz@hotmail.com (Michael E) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:01:08 -0500 Subject: Christmas traditions on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <000a01c71c8a$2c8d49b0$9447da18@Mark> Message-ID: WBZ does a presentation of A Christmas Carol on Christmas Eve, voiced by news anchors, reporters, writers, editors, etc >From: "Mark Watson" >To: "Bob Nelson" , > >Subject: Re: Christmas traditions on Boston radio >Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:36:56 -0500 > > Adding to Bob Nelson's thread: > > A tradition here in the Merrimack Valley back in the good old days of >the 70's & 80's : J.C. (Jim Camilli) would always play as the first >Christmas song on his Saturday night WLLH oldies show Thanksgiving weekend >(later Sunday only) Roy Orbison's "Pretty Paper". He also played some other >Christmas songs that I believe no one else played then or now, such as >"Little Becky's Christmas Wish" by Becky Lamb, which was released (judging >by the Warner Bros. orange record label) 1966, 67 or 68. A narration with a >little girl's wish to have her brother home from Vietnam for Christmas, and >"There Won't Be Any Snow" (Christmas In The Jungle) by Derek Roberts, >mid-60's Vietnam themed song on Roulette Records, Stan Freberg's "Green >Christmas" and Allan Sherman's "The Twelve Gifts of Christmas". > > I also recall until WBZ went all news/talk in the early 90's, they would >play all Christmas music Christmas Eve night through Christmas day. Now >they remain with the regular news/talk format on Christmas. > >Mark Watson > > _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Dec 10 16:49:36 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:49:36 -0500 Subject: Christmas traditions on Boston radio References: <20061210204258.B02C248682@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> Message-ID: <001601c71ca5$1b36b460$19eefea9@satpro4600> Probably way more than six but the radio receives FM as well as AM. Also all of the transistors are part of a single IC made in China and are shipped to a factory in China that puts the ICs onto pc boards made in China, puts the boards into plastic cases also made in China, puts the radios into boxes made in Bangladesh, and the boxes into cartons also made in Bangladesh. Then the cartons go onto pallets that are put into containers that get shipped to Walmart. Walmart then sends dollars to the Chinese company, which, we hope, invests the profits in US Treasury bills. The last step is crucial. Without it, the US economy collapses. Then the number of transistors becomes irrelevant because we can no longer afford the radios. Merry Chistmas! -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric Werme" To: "Bob Nelson" Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:37 AM Subject: Re: Christmas traditions on Boston radio > In stock! Buy! Gift! Keep the Xmas spirits! > > Oh - it also has Allan Sherman's "Twelve days of Christmas" with the olde > Partridge in a Pear Tree updated to a six transistor radio. I wonder how > many transistors are in a typical cheap radio these days. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Dec 10 17:17:45 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:17:45 -0500 Subject: Christmas traditions on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <20061210204258.B02C248682@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> References: <20061210204258.B02C248682@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612101417q2c48bdd9m4dec1e780741c455@mail.gmail.com> Oh, I always play Green Chri$tma$ and had played it on WMWM a week ago. It's on the Freberg box set Tip of the Freberg (Rhino) and a one-disc collection, Capitol Collector's Series. Daws Butler, the voice of everyone from Yogi Bear to Huck Hound to Elroy Jetson, is featured on it as "Bob Cratchit". And yes, somewhere I have a cass. of the best of Allan Sherman with that "12 Days" version. Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas of SCTV did an album with their characters of Bob and Doug McKenzie; the hit was "Take Off" with Geddy Lee from Rush helping out, and also included was their take on "12 Days". "And a beer...in a tree..." By the way you might be having some trouble dubbing that file I mentioned of Jerry's "Child's Christmas" to your mp3 player (I know I did) so I'm converting it to an mp3 file and it will be up shortly http://microfurry.250free.com/JerryW.mp3 From lspin@comcast.net Sun Dec 10 21:27:31 2006 From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:27:31 -0500 Subject: Christmas traditions on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612100737h3b7a6607p4a681c4a658e1c18@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002501c71ccb$ea6d29f0$6701a8c0@DAS8200> Well, through the 80s into the 90s, Oedipus (the PD) and Tony Berardini (the GM) would take over the WBCN studio on Christmas Eve and do a live show playing Christmas requests and some of their own favorites. It was a gift-wrapping tradition for me. Also, we can't forget WRKO's "Christmas Wish" campaign through the 70s/80s where listeners were urged to give to make the Christmas wishes of those less fortunate come true. My favorite Christmas sound bite might just be the music to WRKO's Londonderry Faire ad where the singers do a "La La La La La..."-thing and Dale Dorman would chime in with his falsetto. Hysterical. From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Mon Dec 11 12:23:25 2006 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:23:25 -0500 Subject: Christmas traditions on Boston radio References: <1fbbbced0612100737h3b7a6607p4a681c4a658e1c18@mail.gmail.com><1fbbbced0612100738w5c885279nf81ec1801139d736@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c71c8a$2c8d49b0$9447da18@Mark> Message-ID: <002f01c71d49$11373f80$2e9c4c0c@oemcomputer> Out of the Boston area, but kind of a neat tradition nonetheless, is WDRC-FM Hartford's Christmas Eve show. For several years, weekender Rob Ray (who, I think, works in production at the station full-time) has pulled this shift, and he uses it to empty out the station's library of seasonal music, including a lot of Spector and Motown Christmas songs that don't usually get airplay, as well as novelties like the Youpers' "Beat-Up Chevrolet," the Singing Dogs' "Jingle Bells" and the Fab Four's "Hark! The Herald Angels Sing!" (sung to the tune of the Beatles' "Help!"). And the show always includes "Charlie Parker's Christmas Wish," a sentimental monologue recorded by WDRC's late, legendary program director 30 or so years ago. With oldies stations an endangered species, I don't know how much longer this tradition will survive, so I'll have tape rolling on the 24th. Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Watson To: Bob Nelson ; Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Christmas traditions on Boston radio > Adding to Bob Nelson's thread: > > A tradition here in the Merrimack Valley back in the good old days of the > 70's & 80's : J.C. (Jim Camilli) would always play as the first Christmas > song on his Saturday night WLLH oldies show Thanksgiving weekend (later > Sunday only) Roy Orbison's "Pretty Paper". He also played some other > Christmas songs that I believe no one else played then or now, such as > "Little Becky's Christmas Wish" by Becky Lamb, which was released (judging > by the Warner Bros. orange record label) 1966, 67 or 68. A narration with a > little girl's wish to have her brother home from Vietnam for Christmas, and > "There Won't Be Any Snow" (Christmas In The Jungle) by Derek Roberts, > mid-60's Vietnam themed song on Roulette Records, Stan Freberg's "Green > Christmas" and Allan Sherman's "The Twelve Gifts of Christmas". > > I also recall until WBZ went all news/talk in the early 90's, they would > play all Christmas music Christmas Eve night through Christmas day. Now they > remain with the regular news/talk format on Christmas. > > Mark Watson > > > > From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Dec 11 16:42:04 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:42:04 -0500 Subject: WKLB/WODS broadcast over WBCN this morning....? Message-ID: <02be01c71d6d$34da21e0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Did anyone hear anything about WKLB and/or WODS being broadcast over WBCN this morning...? From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Dec 11 21:42:07 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:42:07 -0500 Subject: Extended moderator absence Message-ID: <17790.5887.759738.687392@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> On Sunday, I shattered a bone in my knee walking down Clarendon Street in the South End. I will be going into the hospital tomorrow for reconstructive surgery, and I do not know when I will be able to attend to administrative tasks like approving moderated messages. My apologies to those of you whose messages get delayed. -GAWollman From dboucher@magic1067.com Fri Dec 8 14:55:43 2006 From: dboucher@magic1067.com (David Allan Boucher) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:55:43 -0500 Subject: CBA to move to FM References: <4578B4F5.26342.5222BC@localhost> <4578FD7C.1020402@fybush.com> <00bd01c71abc$0763e6f0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: > Question: What has prompted the mass move to FM in Canada, anyway? It's > been happening for years (I think CFNB in Fredericton has been off the air > for at least a decade). Is AM THAT much of a relic? Come on. I can understand the need for the CBC Classical outlets to be on FM. (Although, I remember listening to CBC concert music on AM.) But I would think that CBC's spoken word format, news, information, etc...would be perfectly suited for the AM dial. (Especially since the facilities are already built.) And given the AM signal's skywave capabilities...would cover a lot of territory where the population is sparse. (There is a lot of area with only small villages....Northern territories, Yukon, etc.) From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Dec 11 21:50:22 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:50:22 -0500 Subject: CBA to move to FM In-Reply-To: References: <4578B4F5.26342.5222BC@localhost> <4578FD7C.1020402@fybush.com> <00bd01c71abc$0763e6f0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <17790.6382.35333.613266@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > But I would think that CBC's spoken word format, news, information, > etc...would be perfectly suited for the AM dial. (Especially since the > facilities are already built.) The problem for the CBC is that most commercial broadcasters have already abandoned the AM band in Canada, outside of Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal, so if potential listeners have no reason to sample the AM band, they may be lost to the CBC if R1 remains on AM. -GAWollman From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Dec 12 00:51:03 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:51:03 -0500 Subject: CBA to move to FM In-Reply-To: <17790.6382.35333.613266@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: Message-ID: <457DFCF7.20565.761EBA@localhost> On 11 Dec 2006 at 21:50, Garrett Wollman wrote: > The problem for the CBC is that most commercial broadcasters have > already abandoned the AM band in Canada, outside of Toronto, > Vancouver, and Montreal, so if potential listeners have no reason to > sample the AM band, they may be lost to the CBC if R1 remains on AM. Once upon a time such things used to be simulcast on AM and FM, but that apparently is unthinkable now. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Dec 12 00:51:02 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:51:02 -0500 Subject: Extended moderator absence In-Reply-To: <17790.5887.759738.687392@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <457DFCF6.2989.761D3E@localhost> On 11 Dec 2006 at 21:42, Garrett Wollman wrote: > On Sunday, I shattered a bone in my knee walking down Clarendon Street > in the South End. I will be going into the hospital tomorrow for > reconstructive surgery, and I do not know when I will be able to > attend to administrative tasks like approving moderated messages. My > apologies to those of you whose messages get delayed. Ouch! That really sucks. Get well soon! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Dec 12 13:05:04 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:05:04 -0500 Subject: WKLB/WODS broadcast over WBCN this morning....? Message-ID: > > From: "Don A." > To: > Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:42:04 -0500 > Subject: WKLB/WODS broadcast over WBCN this morning....? > > Did anyone hear anything about WKLB and/or WODS > being broadcast over WBCN this morning...? I didn't hear it, but I think it would be much more likely WODS than WKLB. WODS and WBCN are co-owned and have studios in the same building, so I would think a switching mistake would be more likely than with WKLB. EP From songbook2@comcast.net Wed Dec 13 00:24:57 2006 From: songbook2@comcast.net (Russ Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:24:57 -0800 Subject: Speedy recovery, Garrett Message-ID: <457F8EA9.3070204@comcast.net> What a terrible accident to have, Garrett. I'm sure everyone on the b-r-i list, with me, wishes you a speedy recovery and full recuperation of your knee. It will take time, but just do the PT! All the best for the holidays. =Russ Butler From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Wed Dec 13 12:44:05 2006 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:44:05 +0000 Subject: NH's Take On X-mas Radio Message-ID: <45803BE5.3050304@Gmail.com> The Union Leader had a nice article on Christmas music radio in the Granite State (with national statistics): http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?articleId=da30889a-45df-4d67-a306-a67eaf126ff9 One interesting quote of note: ? Behind the holiday cheer and goodwill are strong ratings: ? Portland's WHOM sees a 38 percent bump in the number of ? listeners after it switches its format from adult ? contemporary to 24-7 holiday music. As has been noted here (and other radio boards), there *is* a legitimate business interest in such seasonal diversions. There was a related article about Chanukah holiday radio (and that only satellite radio is doing it), but that didn't seem to make it online. ~Kaimbridge~ (BTW, the Sun's been acting up for the past week--with another major proton storming flare this morning--so mw propagation may appear "daytime dead" at times over the next several nights!) ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From scott@fybush.com Wed Dec 13 20:07:29 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:07:29 -0500 Subject: I'm famous on Jeopardy! Message-ID: <4580A3D1.30502@fybush.com> No, I didn't win anything, or even get to compete...but tonight's episode of Jeopardy has a category about "100,000" - and guess what radio-directory website was mentioned in one of the questions? :-) I'm so proud... I believe this would be the episode that will be seen in about an hour (9 PM ET) on WSBK, for anyone who'd like to check it out personally. s (news editor, you-know-how-many-watts-dot-com) From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Wed Dec 13 21:26:39 2006 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:26:39 -0500 Subject: I'm famous on Jeopardy! References: <4580A3D1.30502@fybush.com> Message-ID: <004201c71f27$4b57cf60$0301a8c0@Family> Scott wrote: >>No, I didn't win anything, or even get to compete...but tonight's episode of Jeopardy has a category about "100,000" - and guess what radio-directory website was mentioned in one of the questions? :-) I'm so proud... I believe this would be the episode that will be seen in about an hour s (news editor, you-know-how-many-watts-dot-com) << Woot-woot's for Scott! but Scott, i'm sorry, your signature was not in the form of a question.... (duckin&grinnin) - - Chuck (who is up way past his bedtime???) Igo From lglavin@mail.com Thu Dec 14 16:55:42 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:55:42 -0500 Subject: WNNW In HD? Message-ID: <20061214215547.02EFF1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> I don't know how long this has been going on, but today (Thursday 12/14) I noticed a tremendous amount of IBOC hash just below and above WNNW-AM 800, Lawrence, MA. It causes mild interference to the two Leicester- based AM's near Woostah, WCRN 830 and WVNE 760. When I drove by the tower overlooking Route 93 in Andover, WCRN was completely obliterated not by splatter but by the signature hash IBOC AM's generate. I don't yet have an HD radio, so I don't know whether WNNW is broadcasting in stereo...they installed a new transmitter last spring to boost their output to 3,000 watts...so maybe they're just activating an HD carrier because it's there. WXKS-AM 1430 has been broadcasting in HD for months, so when they go "Rhumba" they undoubtedly will be transmitting that format in HD or HD stereo. It would appear that WNNW is taking this step to compete. -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 14 17:03:17 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:03:17 -0500 Subject: WNNW In HD? References: <20061214215547.02EFF1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600> HD radio is all in stereo. There is no h in Clear Channel's spelling of Rumba, which sounds like the name of an alcoholic beverageba--the one that the Andrews Sisters presumably mixed with Coca Colba. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:55 PM Subject: WNNW In HD? > I don't know how long this has been going on, but today (Thursday 12/14) > I noticed a tremendous amount of IBOC hash just below and above WNNW-AM > 800, Lawrence, MA. It causes mild interference to the two Leicester- > based AM's near Woostah, WCRN 830 and WVNE 760. When I drove by the tower > overlooking Route 93 in Andover, WCRN was completely obliterated not > by splatter but by the signature hash IBOC AM's generate. I don't > yet have an HD radio, so I don't know whether WNNW is broadcasting > in stereo...they installed a new transmitter last spring to > boost their output to 3,000 watts...so maybe they're just activating > an HD carrier because it's there. WXKS-AM 1430 has been broadcasting > in HD for months, so when they go "Rhumba" they undoubtedly > will be transmitting that format in HD or HD stereo. It would > appear that WNNW is taking this step to compete. > > -- > > Search for products and services at: > http://search.mail.com > > From bradfordwood@comcast.net Thu Dec 14 17:26:37 2006 From: bradfordwood@comcast.net (Bradford Wood) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:26:37 -0500 Subject: WNNW In HD? In-Reply-To: <001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600> References: <20061214215547.02EFF1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <4581CF9D.5040003@comcast.net> WNNW went HD at 0600 Tuesday morning. BW > HD radio is all in stereo. There is no h in Clear Channel's spelling of > Rumba, which sounds like the name of an alcoholic beverageba--the one that > the Andrews Sisters presumably mixed with Coca Colba. > > -- > > Dan Strassberg > dan.strassberg@att.net > Fax: 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurence Glavin" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:55 PM > Subject: WNNW In HD? > > > >> I don't know how long this has been going on, but today (Thursday 12/14) >> I noticed a tremendous amount of IBOC hash just below and above WNNW-AM >> 800, Lawrence, MA. It causes mild interference to the two Leicester- >> based AM's near Woostah, WCRN 830 and WVNE 760. When I drove by the tower >> overlooking Route 93 in Andover, WCRN was completely obliterated not >> by splatter but by the signature hash IBOC AM's generate. I don't >> yet have an HD radio, so I don't know whether WNNW is broadcasting >> in stereo...they installed a new transmitter last spring to >> boost their output to 3,000 watts...so maybe they're just activating >> an HD carrier because it's there. WXKS-AM 1430 has been broadcasting >> in HD for months, so when they go "Rhumba" they undoubtedly >> will be transmitting that format in HD or HD stereo. It would >> appear that WNNW is taking this step to compete. >> >> -- >> >> Search for products and services at: >> http://search.mail.com >> >> >> > > > > > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Dec 14 17:50:09 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:50:09 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600> References: <20061214215547.02EFF1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <20061214225034.996D544C00A@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> So the format change comes more quickly than originally planned-- it changes on the 20th or 21st of this month. Given Ed Schultz's good ratings (and his new video up-link), I can't imagine why Jones wouldn't be able to find some other Boston station that would at least air his program if not other progressive talkers... From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 15 04:00:53 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:00:53 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <20061214225034.996D544C00A@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <20061214215547.02EFF1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600> <20061214225034.996D544C00A@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612150100r42cfa9a7qe3e1941520ab7c7@mail.gmail.com> Ironically enough due to a solar storm or some other reason, you might be able to hear them surprisingly well at night for the next few nights. In fact at 3:30 am I was driving on Rt 128 in Peabody and 1200/1430 were coming in very well (along with WTTT 1150, WTSN 1270 out of Dover NH, etc.). Anyway those who want to hear the AAR talkers during these last few days will get a better (night) signal than usual, if that is indeed the reason. I'd wonder if WRKO would be interested in Stephanie Miller for that 9-noon slot... And yes there could be some smaller stations that might pick up one of the Jones shows. From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Dec 15 04:20:59 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:20:59 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612150100r42cfa9a7qe3e1941520ab7c7@mail.gmail.com > References: <20061214215547.02EFF1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600> <20061214225034.996D544C00A@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> <1fbbbced0612150100r42cfa9a7qe3e1941520ab7c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061215092124.B16E6646F81@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> >Bob wrote-- > >I'd wonder if WRKO would be interested in Stephanie Miller for that >9-noon slot... > >And yes there could be some smaller stations that might pick up one >of the Jones >shows. If I were a talk station in greater Boston, I'd wanna pick up Ed Schultz, given that he is the most moderate of all the progressive talkers, and as such, he might be able to attract the widest audience. He also does excellent interviews. And yeah, somebody ought to give Steph a try-- her show is entertaining no matter what political persuasion a person might be. I'm not sure many of the AAR folks caught on here-- the folks at Boston's Progressive Talk told me Al Franken had decent numbers for a while, but Ed and Steph had the widest demographics (Steph was pulling in 18-34s, whereas Ed gets 25-54). Looks like progressive talk radio in Los Angeles is going to get a reprieve, but even with all of its faults, I'm gonna miss progressive talk in Boston. I still listen to the right wingers sometimes, but it's nice to hear the other side and compare the way each spins the same stories...I hope somebody picks up a few of the progressives-- Ring of Fire is an excellent weekend opinion show, and I thought State of Belief was a very well done religious program... From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Dec 15 07:47:22 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:47:22 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk References: <20061214215547.02EFF1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com><001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600><20061214225034.996D544C00A@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com><1fbbbced0612150100r42cfa9a7qe3e1941520ab7c7@mail.gmail.com> <20061215092124.B16E6646F81@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <001201c72047$2e1d7dc0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Seems like the only chance of Schultz getting on an established talk station in Boston is if WTKK picks him up, which sounds like a hell of a longshot to me. As far as I can tell, Greater Media is to the right of Entercom--and that's about as far right as it gets. Even forgetting, for the moment, Entercom's politics (they did, after all, pick up progressive talk in western New York, Memphis, and New Orleans), WRKO seems like a total non-starter. With Rush and Howie filling noon to 7:00PM, where would Ed fit in the lineup? Bring Savage back from 7:00 to 10:00PM and put Schultz on from 10:00PM to 1:00AM? I don't know the WTKK lineup, but Severin is obviously sacrosanct. When is Graham on? Seems like 96.9 has more room to squeeze Schultz into the schedule, but I can't see them doing it even if there were a decent slot. If somebody were to buy the time, I bet Alex Langer would bite his lip and put Schultz on WBIX overnights. Can you get 1060 in Quincy at night--I would guess so if you don't mind a heavy mixture of KYW. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Bob Nelson" ; Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 4:20 AM Subject: Re: bye bye Boston's progressive talk > > >Bob wrote-- > > > >I'd wonder if WRKO would be interested in Stephanie Miller for that > >9-noon slot... > > > >And yes there could be some smaller stations that might pick up one > >of the Jones > >shows. > > If I were a talk station in greater Boston, I'd wanna pick up Ed > Schultz, given that he is the most moderate of all the progressive > talkers, and as such, he might be able to attract the widest > audience. He also does excellent interviews. And yeah, somebody > ought to give Steph a try-- her show is entertaining no matter what > political persuasion a person might be. I'm not sure many of the AAR > folks caught on here-- the folks at Boston's Progressive Talk told me > Al Franken had decent numbers for a while, but Ed and Steph had the > widest demographics (Steph was pulling in 18-34s, whereas Ed gets 25-54). > > Looks like progressive talk radio in Los Angeles is going to get a > reprieve, but even with all of its faults, I'm gonna miss progressive > talk in Boston. I still listen to the right wingers sometimes, but > it's nice to hear the other side and compare the way each spins the > same stories...I hope somebody picks up a few of the progressives-- > Ring of Fire is an excellent weekend opinion show, and I thought > State of Belief was a very well done religious program... > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 15 10:44:11 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:44:11 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <001201c72047$2e1d7dc0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20061214215547.02EFF1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600> <20061214225034.996D544C00A@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> <1fbbbced0612150100r42cfa9a7qe3e1941520ab7c7@mail.gmail.com> <20061215092124.B16E6646F81@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001201c72047$2e1d7dc0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612150744y4ec5976hb0b2ee8c08686103@mail.gmail.com> WTKK is locked in to a long term Imus contract. Following him is Barnicle, then Eagan and Braude, and Bill O'Reilly. If they wanted to dump any of them, you'd have possible slots for Miller and Hartmann or Schultz. Severin is from 3-7 pm and he has a long term contract. I'm not sure how long Michael Graham (7 pm) has left in his contract or how he's doing in the ratings. After that is Laura Ingraham who I think does a great show--it was hilarious last night as she did "sound bite contests" (Barbara Walters imitating her dog, Wolf Blitzer making weird noises, Roseanne, et al), then they have the syndie John and Jeff overnight. Yes, probably a longshot. (And an aside here: I'm sure one's politics will affect how one feels about the entertainment value of a show. Liberals might tell you they don't find Ingraham entertaining at all while conservatives would say the same of Franken.) WRKO has Scott Allen Miller's morning show, then that 9-noon slot which most likely would go to local talk unless they decided to pick up Miller. Then they have Rush and Howie and at 7 pm there's Red Sox (soon) or Celtics, and Todd Feinburg. If they put Feinburg on in the morning, there's a possible open slot for one of these shows. And then we have Savage who supposedly dropped big in the ratings but I think he may have a following. If WRKO were to drop him, you could have the Sox leading into one of the prog-talk shows (and the Sox ownership is sympatico with the Left btw, so they'd be happy), and then they have Coast to Coast. So who knows who could be shoehorned into their lineup. As for the politics of Greater Media and Entercom, I guess you could call them greens: as in, they are concerned with whomever would make them the most...money. But who knows. I do know of a certain 250 watt station in Cambridge that would beam a strong signal into downtown Boston, Harvard Square, and so on, but we're not so sure if the owner of that facility (hi Bob!) would want to switch to the progressive talk format from what he now has. In a land where 95 per cent of the politicians are Democrats, where the Boston Globe and Boston Phoenix publish, where there are many liberals/progressives, one would think that a prog. talk station might be attractive to somebody. (Though I am hearing that attractive advertisers has been a problem, which is one reason Clear Channel has turned at least some of their prog. talk stations to sports, feeling it would make more profits.) From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Dec 15 10:48:52 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:48:52 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612150100r42cfa9a7qe3e1941520ab7c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061214215547.02EFF1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600> <20061214225034.996D544C00A@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> <1fbbbced0612150100r42cfa9a7qe3e1941520ab7c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 4:00 AM -0500 12/15/06, Bob Nelson wrote: > >I'd wonder if WRKO would be interested in Stephanie Miller for that >9-noon slot... If they did that, it would have to be on a one day delay basis. I believe the show originates 9 AM to Noon, Pacific time. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 15 11:01:20 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:01:20 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: References: <20061214215547.02EFF1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600> <20061214225034.996D544C00A@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> <1fbbbced0612150100r42cfa9a7qe3e1941520ab7c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612150801n3f608136o3cfb9b6c3322e9a1@mail.gmail.com> Actually 6 to 9 am Pacific >>4/05: From 6:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. local time, Angelinos will again be able to wake up and commute to work with The Stephanie Miller Show. KTLK will become the flagship station for Stephanie (press release on her site) From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Dec 15 13:01:57 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:01:57 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612150744y4ec5976hb0b2ee8c08686103@mail.gmail.com > References: <20061214215547.02EFF1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600> <20061214225034.996D544C00A@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> <1fbbbced0612150100r42cfa9a7qe3e1941520ab7c7@mail.gmail.com> <20061215092124.B16E6646F81@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001201c72047$2e1d7dc0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <1fbbbced0612150744y4ec5976hb0b2ee8c08686103@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061215180223.DBA3744D56F@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> >Bob N wrote-- >(Though I am hearing >that attractive advertisers has been a problem, which is one reason >Clear Channel >has turned at least some of their prog. talk stations to sports, >feeling it would make >more profits.) Umm, over 500 people showed up for a rally in Madison WI-- they had to turn people away. Many many advertisers showed up, telling the local newspaper that it was a myth that progressive talk didn't work-- these advertisers said that the station (92.1 the Mic) got great results for them. In certain dayparts, the station was also in the top 3. Yet Clear Channel pulled the plug on it anyway. As for sponsors in other cities, there has been a widely publicised boycott list of corporations that refuse to air their commecials on progressive talk stations. And alas, in Boston there was not a lot of energy put into making the format work-- no full-time staff, and one sales guy; and with signal problems and no budget for local hosts, the station was treated like a poor stepchild. The guy doing the assistant PD job tried really hard but he got minimal support from anyone, based on what I've seen. Whether one is a rightie or a leftie, most listeners still appreciate good local radio and local input to go along with the national hosts. The Boston station seldom had that local presence, and that's a shame. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 15 13:21:26 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:21:26 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <20061215180223.DBA3744D56F@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <20061214215547.02EFF1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600> <20061214225034.996D544C00A@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> <1fbbbced0612150100r42cfa9a7qe3e1941520ab7c7@mail.gmail.com> <20061215092124.B16E6646F81@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001201c72047$2e1d7dc0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <1fbbbced0612150744y4ec5976hb0b2ee8c08686103@mail.gmail.com> <20061215180223.DBA3744D56F@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612151021p9fc3150s2f282b2a58280bdc@mail.gmail.com> Yes and there was a rally of about 150 people who prevented WLVP in Portland ME from going to ESPN from Air America (back in Oct. of '04, the same month WXKS/WKOX made its prog. talk debut) Interesting that CC would pull the plug on CC despite ad support but they sometimes justify it as "sports would be a better sell" Agreed on the need for a local host, etc., and with a better signal and more committment from management, it could have done much better. I have no prob with well-done lib talk on the air--I liked Alan Colmes when he was briefly on WRKO, as well as his former show which aired on stations like WCAP and, yes, WKOX. (On one California station, Colmes runs as part of their prog. talk lineup). By the way right now I'm taping a Portuguese music show off WMWM for podcasting later. Good music though the host has a tendency to get about 1 millimeter away from the microphone and he has it cranked up all the way. Mentioned to him that since he should maybe back away from the mic and pot it down a bit. Well, judging from his last talk break he must have forgot what I told him. Oh well... Heck, stations like WMWM have volunteers to come down and do shows that serve the community. Couldn't CC have paid at least minimum wage to someone fresh out of college radio, say, and have them do a talk show? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 15 13:23:31 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:23:31 -0500 Subject: O'Brien to replace Trupiano Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612151023h740745dbp38c400fbbd95843c@mail.gmail.com> Boston Radio Watch, via Boston Sports Media Watch, reports that at a 2 pm conference call, former Marlins announcer Dave O'Brien will be introduced as Joe Castiglione's new sidekick on the WRKO Red Sox Radio Network. Wish him well though sad to lose Trupiano. http://www.bostonradiowatch.com http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com From m1bz@hotmail.com Fri Dec 15 13:51:11 2006 From: m1bz@hotmail.com (Michael E) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:51:11 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <20061215180223.DBA3744D56F@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: Donna hit the nail on the head. Whatever your politics are, we all have a vested interest in seeing local, issues-oriented radio succeed. It's good for the market, and the medium. >From: Donna Halper >To: "Bob Nelson" , "Dan Strassberg" >, >boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: bye bye Boston's progressive talk >Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:01:57 -0500 > > >>Bob N wrote-- >>(Though I am hearing >>that attractive advertisers has been a problem, which is one reason >>Clear Channel >>has turned at least some of their prog. talk stations to sports, >>feeling it would make >>more profits.) > >Umm, over 500 people showed up for a rally in Madison WI-- they had to turn >people away. Many many advertisers showed up, telling the local newspaper >that it was a myth that progressive talk didn't work-- these advertisers >said that the station (92.1 the Mic) got great results for them. In >certain dayparts, the station was also in the top 3. Yet Clear Channel >pulled the plug on it anyway. As for sponsors in other cities, there has >been a widely publicised boycott list of corporations that refuse to air >their commecials on progressive talk stations. And alas, in Boston there >was not a lot of energy put into making the format work-- no full-time >staff, and one sales guy; and with signal problems and no budget for local >hosts, the station was treated like a poor stepchild. The guy doing the >assistant PD job tried really hard but he got minimal support from anyone, >based on what I've seen. Whether one is a rightie or a leftie, most >listeners still appreciate good local radio and local input to go along >with the national hosts. The Boston station seldom had that local >presence, and that's a shame. > > _________________________________________________________________ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview From lglavin@mail.com Fri Dec 15 13:59:53 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:59:53 -0500 Subject: WNNW In HD? Message-ID: <20061215185957.1FCA81F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bradford Wood" >To: "Dan Strassberg" >Subject: Re: WNNW In HD? >Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:26:37 -0500>WNNW went HD at 0600 Tuesday morning. >BW Wait a minute: I thought AM stations weren't supposed to go HD until local sunrise, which in December is SEVEN O'CLOCK! -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From lglavin@mail.com Fri Dec 15 14:10:21 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:10:21 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk Message-ID: <20061215191022.65A0B1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Donna Halper" >To: "Bob Nelson" , "Dan Strassberg" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: bye bye Boston's progressive talk >Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:01:57 -0500 >Umm, over 500 people showed up for a rally in Madison WI-- they had >to turn people away. Many many advertisers showed up, telling the >local newspaper that it was a myth that progressive talk didn't >work-- these advertisers said that the station (92.1 the Mic) got >great results for them. In certain dayparts, the station was also >in the top 3. Yet Clear Channel pulled the plug on it anyway. As >for sponsors in other cities, there has been a widely publicised >boycott list of corporations that refuse to air their commecials on >progressive talk stations. And alas, in Boston there was not a lot >of energy put into making the format work-- no full-time staff, and >one sales guy; and with signal problems and no budget for local >hosts, the station was treated like a poor stepchild. The guy >doing the assistant PD job tried really hard but he got minimal >support from anyone, based on what I've seen. Whether one is a >rightie or a leftie, most listeners still appreciate good local >radio and local input to go along with the national hosts. The >Boston station seldom had that local presence, and that's a shame. Nobody's mentioned the Arbitrends at all so far, and in the latest ones for Boston WXKS-AM/WKOX got the lowest number for the format so far. Maybe the changes in the morning drive time segment, the removal of the great Rachel Maddow while the stations could actually be received (except for solar activity like last night!) had something to do with it. Radio stations normally need decent numbers during that daypart to do well at other times. -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Dec 15 14:16:48 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:16:48 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <20061215191022.65A0B1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061215191022.65A0B1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20061215191714.DADD664274F@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> >Laurence wrote-- > >Nobody's mentioned the Arbitrends at all so far, and in the latest ones >for Boston WXKS-AM/WKOX got the lowest number for the format so far. Doesn't shock me at all-- no kidding, you can't hear them in large segments of their target market, and there have been a lot of problems with the automated feeds too-- dead air, promos playing twice, etc. The station was treated like an after-thought, as I've said before. If I were their consultamt (and I offered), I would have run it very differently. There are local elements that a talk format needs, and neither station had much local content, nor was there any promotion at all. When I would tell people about it, frequently the reaction was "huh? is there a progressive talk format in Boston?" From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Dec 15 14:21:26 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:21:26 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk Message-ID: <20061215192152.40BD0641E0D@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Ed Schultz is talking right now about how in a number of stations in markets where there is currently a severe ice storm, those stations are just broadcasting their same old syndicated shows as if nothing is happening. Why have a license if you are not gonna serve your community? Forget right or left wing-- let's talk public interest. What is the FCC doing in all of this? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 15 14:38:33 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:38:33 -0500 Subject: O'Brien to replace Trupiano In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612151023h740745dbp38c400fbbd95843c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced0612151023h740745dbp38c400fbbd95843c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612151138p35bedc92u6034a8f370f5d280@mail.gmail.com> Actually the new Red Sox broadcast team will also include Glenn Gaffner as well. The Entercom press release is at the links I mentioned. WRKO will cede weekday afternoon and Wed. night Sox games to WEEI however WRKO may wind up doing some 1 pm Grapefruit League spring training games starting in late Feb. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Dec 15 14:45:46 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:45:46 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <20061215192152.40BD0641E0D@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <20061215192152.40BD0641E0D@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612151145v1f0f9375g384218c0b04dbf25@mail.gmail.com> Interestingly enough, I found out that WDEL in Wilmington, DE, has the following announcement on their website: ABC Radio "held a gun to their heads" and insisted that to remain a Hannity affiliate, they had to take 2 additional hours of ABC programming. The response wasn't no, it was "hell, no", and WDEL has replaced the syndie talk with... ...local talk and news... http://www.wdel.com/features/hannityout.mp3 From bradfordwood@comcast.net Fri Dec 15 15:18:44 2006 From: bradfordwood@comcast.net (Bradford Wood) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:18:44 -0500 Subject: WNNW In HD? In-Reply-To: <20061215185957.1FCA81F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061215185957.1FCA81F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <45830324.6080105@comcast.net> Laurence Glavin wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bradford Wood" >> To: "Dan Strassberg" >> Subject: Re: WNNW In HD? >> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:26:37 -0500>WNNW went HD at 0600 Tuesday morning. >> > > >> BW >> > > Wait a minute: I thought AM stations weren't supposed to go HD > until local sunrise, which in December is SEVEN O'CLOCK! > > > Hi Larry - Correction...all equipment was in place for 0600 and went live during morning drive after two overnights of installation. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for being so punctual. BW From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Dec 15 11:16:09 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:16:09 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk References: <20061214215547.02EFF1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com><001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600><20061214225034.996D544C00A@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com><1fbbbced0612150100r42cfa9a7qe3e1941520ab7c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001301c72064$5931c1c0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Wrong! Miller airs live 6:00AM to 9:00AM Pacific. The feed that was heard here was live. Steph's Jones Network show is on live in AM drive on 50-kW KTLK 1150 in LA. I just read a posting that said that KTLK's flip to Rumba has been postponed. BTW, the Phoenix AZ progressive-talk station seems to have an Air-America-free lineup, except for Thom Harmann, who has some connection with AAR but who I understand self-syndicates his 9:00AM to noon (Pacific) show. Hartmann also has been doing a different (non-syndicated) show live in AM drive on KPOJ, Portland OR. Considering the amount of show prep he obviously does, that is one hard-working radio guy! Six hours a day of telephone talk. It's no wonder that he has learned how to do it without raising his voice ;>) -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:48 AM Subject: Re: bye bye Boston's progressive talk > At 4:00 AM -0500 12/15/06, Bob Nelson wrote: > > > >I'd wonder if WRKO would be interested in Stephanie Miller for that > >9-noon slot... > > If they did that, it would have to be on a one day delay basis. I > believe the show originates 9 AM to Noon, Pacific time. > > -- > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH From blaine@well.com Fri Dec 15 18:28:55 2006 From: blaine@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:28:55 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <20061215192152.40BD0641E0D@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <20061215192152.40BD0641E0D@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <45832FB7.5020302@well.com> I can already hear station owners clamoring that serving the public interest costs money, and those owners are out to make money. I'm not saying this is correct, wrong, right, or left. (Disclaimer: I work in broadcasting, part time, for an owner who desires to make money.) Blaine Thompson Fort Wayne, Indiana Donna Halper wrote: > Ed Schultz is talking right now about how in a number of stations in > markets where there is currently a severe ice storm, those stations > are just broadcasting their same old syndicated shows as if nothing is > happening. Why have a license if you are not gonna serve your > community? Forget right or left wing-- let's talk public interest. > What is the FCC doing in all of this? > From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Fri Dec 15 12:05:28 2006 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:05:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <20061215092124.B16E6646F81@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <619946.43983.qm@web58312.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Donna Halper wrote: > Looks like progressive talk radio in Los Angeles is going to get a > reprieve, but even with all of its faults, I'm gonna miss progressive > talk in Boston. I still listen to the right wingers sometimes, but > it's nice to hear the other side and compare the way each spins the > same stories... (I'm trying to keep this as on-topic, re: radio, as possible...) People like Donna are the reason Rush has done so well for so long -- Midwest, Plains states moderates and open-minded non-partisans listen; many agree with most of his views and disagree with some, but even when they think he's out on Mars they find him interesting. I'm nowhere near Rush's politics, but I do find his bits mostly amusing -- even if it's in an eye-rolling way. It may have been Bob Bittner mentioning this on LTAR years ago, but I remember someone saying that Boston isn't going to be a great progressive/liberal talk town since you are preaching to the choir. Al Franken, IMO and has been mentioned by others here, is a one-trick pony. As such he didn't bring anything to the table for you at those times when you wanted something other than to be told your viewpoint was 100 percent correct. Ed Schultz always puts forth strong interviews. His location -- he's based out of one of the Dakotas, Fargo maybe? -- helps, too; he has a sensibility of that part of the country that I'm sure helps draw in listeners. I haven't listened to too much of Stephanie Miller's radio show, but I vaguely remember her TV show years ago, and I thought she was talented. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hmadjid@gmail.com Sat Dec 16 01:24:03 2006 From: hmadjid@gmail.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:24:03 -0500 Subject: How did WMFO get away with that?? Message-ID: Tuned in WMFO in the wee hours of Saturday morning, 12/16/06 approximately 1am. As sign off music they played Steve Earle's song F**k the FCC. 'MFO did *NOT* bleep out the 'F' - word. How did they get away with that, in this era of Congressional and FCC crackdowns on this sort of thing? -- 73 de Hakim (N1ZFF). From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Dec 16 01:33:29 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:33:29 -0500 Subject: How did WMFO get away with that?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <45834CE9.10974.6406CC@localhost> On 16 Dec 2006 at 1:24, Hakim Madjid wrote: > Tuned in WMFO in the wee hours of Saturday morning, 12/16/06 > approximately 1am. As sign off music they played Steve Earle's song > F**k the FCC. 'MFO did *NOT* bleep out the 'F' - word. > > How did they get away with that, in this era of Congressional and FCC > crackdowns on this sort of thing? I thought it was allowable after 10 PM or something like that. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Dec 16 01:59:01 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:59:01 -0500 Subject: How did WMFO get away with that?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061216065927.41AC4C09B@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 01:24 AM 12/16/2006, Hakim Madjid wrote: >Tuned in WMFO in the wee hours of Saturday morning, 12/16/06 >approximately 1am. As sign off music they played Steve Earle's song >F**k the FCC. 'MFO did *NOT* bleep out the 'F' - word. > >How did they get away with that, in this era of Congressional and FCC >crackdowns on this sort of thing? Years ago, there were inspectors and they actually dropped in at weird and unexpected times. I recall being in college and they trained us about what to do if an FCC inspector knocked on our door (if he produces ID, you let him in, show him around, be very polite, and you call the PD immediately). We also took bad language very seriously-- we either edited out the bad words or the record company gave us a clean version. In fairness, many college stations are still very careful about using un-edited versions of songs. But these days, unless somebody complains to the FCC, there are not many investigations nor are there sudden inspections. When an investigation of a station does take place, it is often the results of advocacy groups with a lot of time on their hands and a particular agenda about "broadcast indecency," who have sent hundreds of letters and e-mails to the FCC. There really are some folks who spend their lives taping stations they think are about to be offensive (this was done to Howard Stern often) and then sending the tapes along to the FCC with a request that they "look into it". If you were offended by WMFO and if you sent the complaint to the FCC, chances are they'd investigate, but unless a listener initiated the request, I doubt any such investigation will occur. As a public service, however, you may wanna leave voice-mail for the station's PD. There is always the chance an underwriter might be listening and that can cause all sorts of problems... a few years back, a member of Emerson College's Board of Directors (or whatever it's called) was listening and heard a rap song with many many F bombs, and it became quite a scandal, with assorted people losing their show and the PD getting in trouble... From elipolo@earthlink.net Sat Dec 16 02:33:49 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 02:33:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: How did WMFO get away with that?? Message-ID: <22114462.1166254429414.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: "Boston Radio" , > "Hakim Madjid" > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:33:29 -0500 > Subject: Re: How did WMFO get away with that?? > > On 16 Dec 2006 at 1:24, Hakim Madjid wrote: > > > Tuned in WMFO in the wee hours of Saturday morning, 12/16/06 > > approximately 1am. As sign off music they played Steve Earle's > > song F**k the FCC. 'MFO did *NOT* bleep out the 'F' - word. > > > > How did they get away with that, in this era of Congressional and > > FCC crackdowns on this sort of thing? We don't know if they "got away with it", if they played it only a half an hour ago from when you typed that message. If they have been monitored, or if someone reports them, they may not get away with it, and they might get a minimum $325k fine, which I would think could possibly be steep enough to shut them down. But, it's not like FCC agents are going to come roaring up to Curtis Hall at Tufts on Saturday at 1 AM and padlock the place. By the way, I heard their sign-on Friday morning at 7 AM. After a legal enough recorded sign-on message, they went right into John Lennon's "Working Class Hero", with all the "F"-words uncensored. This station was fined a much smaller amount few years ago for various technical and Public File violations. You would think they'd learn, and get their act togther in all respects that could put them at risk. However, one problem with student-run college stations is that student managements turn over every year or so, and there is often very little "memory" passed along with the changing of the guards. The same issues that may have been resolved one year suddenly become unresolved again the next year (and sometimes students don't care to hear the opinions of community volunteers who have seen it all before and could offer some experience). It's a shame, because there are still some people doing some good programming on WMFO (in the contexts of both student radio as well as community radio), and a few jerks are putting the whole station at risk for everybody else. This attitude has often resulted in the station receiving far from ideal perception from both the college and the FCC. I found it was easy enough to make a couple of quick Pro-Tools edits to "Working Class Hero" to make it perfectly legal to air on my WMBR show. WUMB also created an identical edited version for their Saturday morning 60's/70's folk-rock show. EP From attychase@comcast.net Sat Dec 16 08:29:22 2006 From: attychase@comcast.net (Robert S Chase) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:29:22 -0500 Subject: Where Is The Public Interest? References: Message-ID: <000a01c72116$340b6e70$6400a8c0@HomeOffice> Donna: Years ago the FCC was sold to the highest bidder in another example of Freedman economics. Bob > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:21:26 -0500 > From: Donna Halper > Subject: Re: bye bye Boston's progressive talk > To: "Laurence Glavin" , "Bob Nelson" > , "Dan Strassberg" , > boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Message-ID: > <20061215192152.40BD0641E0D@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Ed Schultz is talking right now about how in a number of stations in > markets where there is currently a severe ice storm, those stations > are just broadcasting their same old syndicated shows as if nothing > is happening. Why have a license if you are not gonna serve your > community? Forget right or left wing-- let's talk public > interest. What is the FCC doing in all of this? From mixer893@yahoo.com Sat Dec 16 10:28:27 2006 From: mixer893@yahoo.com (Jeremy Mixer) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:28:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: How did WMFO get away with that?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <525597.47836.qm@web30313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Hakim Madjid wrote: > How did they get away with that, in this era of > Congressional and FCC > crackdowns on this sort of thing? I beleive "safe hours" are between 10 PM and 3 or 4 AM< although most stations have strict policies about what can and cannot be played whether it is during safe hours or not. In the past, while filling out emplyment paperwork, I have had to sign paperwork promising not to broadcast certain words at any time.... as always, if company policy is stricter than the law, you'd be foolish not to follow company policy if your job meant anything to you. Also worth pointing out that many radio stations play songs such as The Who's "Who Are You" and Pearl Jam's "Jeremy" uncensored....both with one or two very obvious F-bombs. Like some others pointed out, the FCC needs to receive enough complaints to really even do anything about it. I also had someone tell me a few years back that the use of the word is what they go after....if the F-bomb refers to a physical act than it is not allowed, however if you are saying "What the F___" it is....although I am not sure about the validity of that statement. I have never actually seen a specific FCC rule concerning that but it WOULD make sense in listening to the context in which you hear the F-word in recorded songs....very seldom will you hear the word referring to something that a couple would do.... I'd be interested if anyone did have documentation that stated that specifically. Jeremy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Sat Dec 16 11:27:31 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:27:31 -0500 Subject: How did WMFO get away with that?? References: <525597.47836.qm@web30313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <034901c7212f$164775f0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Jeremy: I read a newspaper article a couple of months ago --- I think it may have been in The Wall Streer Journal, but I can't clearly recall --- that backed up what you've written. The F-bomb, as you put it, is permitted during the wee small hours, but its legality depends upon the context in which it's used. If it's used as a sexual expression it's a no-no. A college student who is a friend of mine recently wrote an interesting (and quite creative) paper on this subject, in which he discussed the etymology and history of the word. He pointed out that it's become so commonplace in recent years that it's said to be the only word in the English language that is used not only as a verb, but also as a noun, adjective, and adverb. (Some of the ways I've heard it used remind me of C.S. Lewis' delightful comment, "The trouble with making yourself appear more stupid than you really are is that you usually succeed."). -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Mixer" To: "Boston Radio" Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:28 AM Subject: Re: How did WMFO get away with that?? > > --- Hakim Madjid wrote: > > > How did they get away with that, in this era of > > Congressional and FCC > > crackdowns on this sort of thing? > > I beleive "safe hours" are between 10 PM and 3 or 4 > AM< although most stations have strict policies about > what can and cannot be played whether it is during > safe hours or not. In the past, while filling out > emplyment paperwork, I have had to sign paperwork > promising not to broadcast certain words at any > time.... as always, if company policy is stricter than > the law, you'd be foolish not to follow company policy > if your job meant anything to you. > > Also worth pointing out that many radio stations play > songs such as The Who's "Who Are You" and Pearl Jam's > "Jeremy" uncensored....both with one or two very > obvious F-bombs. Like some others pointed out, the FCC > needs to receive enough complaints to really even do > anything about it. > > I also had someone tell me a few years back that the > use of the word is what they go after....if the F-bomb > refers to a physical act than it is not allowed, > however if you are saying "What the F___" it > is....although I am not sure about the validity of > that statement. I have never actually seen a specific > FCC rule concerning that but it WOULD make sense in > listening to the context in which you hear the F-word > in recorded songs....very seldom will you hear the > word referring to something that a couple would do.... > > I'd be interested if anyone did have documentation > that stated that specifically. > > Jeremy > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From hykker@grolen.com Sat Dec 16 11:03:03 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:03:03 -0500 Subject: Public interest (was: bye bye Boston's progressive talk) In-Reply-To: <20061215192152.40BD0641E0D@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <20061215192152.40BD0641E0D@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061216104735.01a6a008@grolen.com> Donna Halper wrote: >Ed Schultz is talking right now about how in a number of stations in >markets where there is currently a severe ice storm, those stations >are just broadcasting their same old syndicated shows as if nothing >is happening. Why have a license if you are not gonna serve your >community? Forget right or left wing-- let's talk public >interest. What is the FCC doing in all of this? Just as long as you don't pre-empt HIS syndicated show for it, right? :-/ Where do you draw the line for pre-empting programming for news coverage? For example...school-closing announcements are nothing but clutter to anyone who does not have school-age children. What about wall-to-wall coverage when some celebrity dies (the media circus over Princess Diana immediately comes to mind), or even (local angle here) coverage of the press conference when the Red Sox announced the signing of the Japanese pitcher (where the interpreter's command of English wasn't much better than the new player's)? Are you "serving the public interest" when you interrupt regular programming for news (or pseudo-news), or are you just annoying those who tuned in to hear your regular format? This topic has been hashed to death...what exactly is "serving your community"...is it the station that's 100% local but has a .5 share or the syndicated station with a 10? You're not serving the community if no one is listening. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 12/15/2006 From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Dec 16 12:39:55 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:39:55 -0500 Subject: Public interest (was: bye bye Boston's progressive talk) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20061216104735.01a6a008@grolen.com> References: <20061215192152.40BD0641E0D@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20061216104735.01a6a008@grolen.com> Message-ID: <20061216174021.8478CC223@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> At 11:03 AM 12/16/2006, SteveOrdinetz wrote: >Donna Halper wrote: > >>Ed Schultz is talking right now about how in a number of stations >>in markets where there is currently a severe ice storm, those >>stations are just broadcasting their same old syndicated shows as >>if nothing is happening. Why have a license if you are not gonna >>serve your community? Forget right or left wing-- let's talk >>public interest. What is the FCC doing in all of this? > > >Just as long as you don't pre-empt HIS syndicated show for it, right? :-/ Oh Steve, you curmudgeon. Big Eddie actually stopped in the midst of his show and had his producers call various power companies in the region and find out whatever he could for his audience. His point was that the local hosts should be doing the same, but alas many stations have cut their news departments down to zero. >Steve wrote-- >Where do you draw the line for pre-empting programming for news coverage? F Umm, 4 people were dead, 100 mile an hour winds, a million without power in one of the worst storms in 25 years. I think that's a good reason to give extra coverage. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sat Dec 16 14:42:37 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:42:37 -0500 Subject: AM's using IBOC (Was: WNNW In HD? References: <20061214215547.02EFF1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com><001f01c71fcb$ad273b00$19eefea9@satpro4600> <4581CF9D.5040003@comcast.net> Message-ID: <037901c7214a$5d6efdc0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> What other AM stations are using IBOC? WBZ of course... Any others? Did I hear it on WRKO too? D From lglavin@mail.com Sat Dec 16 15:44:49 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:44:49 -0500 Subject: AM's using IBOC (Was: WNNW In HD? Message-ID: <20061216204449.059CA1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Don A." >To: "Bradford Wood" , "Dan Strassberg" >Subject: AM's using IBOC (Was: WNNW In HD? >Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:42:37 -0500 >What other AM stations are using IBOC? >WBZ of course... >Any others? >Did I hear it on WRKO too? Around here, the AM's include WMKI 1260 Radio Disney And WXKS 1430 soon to be "Rumba" (Is it a good idea to give a name to a radio station that sounds like a vacuum cleaner, which, as we all know SUCKS?) -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From pcbill@juno.com Sat Dec 16 11:52:42 2006 From: pcbill@juno.com (Bill Dillane) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:52:42 GMT Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk Message-ID: <20061216.085344.723.1516551@webmail21.lax.untd.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://lists.BostonRadio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/attachments/20061216/1aa52d6f/attachment.ksh From sid@wrko.com Sat Dec 16 21:34:55 2006 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:34:55 -0700 Subject: How did WMFO get away with that?? Message-ID: >>But these days, unless somebody complains to the FCC, there are not many investigations nor are there sudden inspections.<< Oh, but there definitely are sudden inspections. The FCC may not do as many as they did once upon a time, but they still do them, and proof can be found in a quick glance at the FCC's web page devoted specifically to Enforcement Bureau actions (http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/). These notices cover all the areas of FCC concern, but even if you just look at the broadcasting ones, you will often see that the violations were discovered during routine inspections. The FCC is also fond of doing what they call "enforcement sweeps," where they will visit every station in a given area and look for a specific violation, such as one of the "big three" (local public file, EAS or tower lights). Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From sid@wrko.com Sat Dec 16 21:41:47 2006 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:41:47 -0700 Subject: Public interest (was: bye bye Boston's progressive talk) Message-ID: >>Why have a license if you are not gonna serve your community? Forget right or left wing-- let's talk public interest. What is the FCC doing in all of this?<< First, the FCC's definition of "public service," in practice, is whatever the station says it is. Second, I can't remember who said this, but the proposition was put forth some years ago that whatever programming interests a substantial number of people is per se in the public interest. I suppose one could make that argument, but it seems more than just a bit crass to me, since one could use that argument to state, for example, that news concerning Britney Spears' love life is in the public interest. Bottom line: As long as the FCC is unwilling and/or unable to clearly define the term, it's open to interpretation and probably not very enforceable. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Dec 17 00:51:56 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:51:56 -0500 Subject: How did WMFO get away with that?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <458494AC.19997.84E690@localhost> On 16 Dec 2006 at 19:34, Sid Schweiger wrote: > Oh, but there definitely are sudden inspections. The FCC may not do > as many as they did once upon a time, but they still do them, and > proof can be found in a quick glance at the FCC's web page devoted > specifically to Enforcement Bureau actions > (http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/). These notices cover all the > areas of FCC concern, but even if you just look at the broadcasting > ones, you will often see that the violations were discovered during > routine inspections. As I recall, when the Republicans took over Congress, there were a number of members who wanted to abolish the FCC. They settled for cutting its budget, so that it didn't have the resources to do enforcement. A change in the political climate in Washington may result in an FCC more interested in making stations operate in the "public interest," whatever that is assumed to mean. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Dec 17 00:51:56 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:51:56 -0500 Subject: Public interest (was: bye bye Boston's progressive talk) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20061216104735.01a6a008@grolen.com> References: <20061215192152.40BD0641E0D@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <458494AC.21145.84E627@localhost> On 16 Dec 2006 at 11:03, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Are you "serving the public interest" when you interrupt regular > programming for news (or pseudo-news), or are you just annoying those > who tuned in to hear your regular format? This topic has been hashed > to death...what exactly is "serving your community"...is it the > station that's 100% local but has a .5 share or the syndicated station > with a 10? You're not serving the community if no one is listening. I sometimes get annoyed with NECN when they interrupt their usual news format to cover some long event. Especially when it's a trivial event. I remember getting particularly steamed with them once when I tuned in to get a weather report, and they were covering some motion session in Superior Court in the Jon Salvi case. It was something extremely routine and meaningless to the case. Not newsworthy at all. It was probably even more boring to most viewers than it was to me. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From rdavisson@neo.rr.com Sun Dec 17 09:32:17 2006 From: rdavisson@neo.rr.com (Tim) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:32:17 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk References: <20061216.085344.723.1516551@webmail21.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <001201c721e8$28a63920$509c4a47@tim98b01b5ec4c> > On other hand, maybe progressive talk radio lacks decent ratings in > places like Boston and New Haven because moderates and liberals > prefer other sources like public radio, blogs, daily newspapers (like > the Globe, Times or Courant), alternative newspapers, etc.> Air America failed because of the deadly combination of inadequate on-air talent, lack of adequate multi-media promotion of their stations, and not enough time to develop (2 or 3 years WITH major right-wing competition -vs- 20 years with practically no opposition competition). Any format would have the odds stacked against it under those circumstances. Plus, where did this "public radio heavily favors liberal policies" thing get started? I know they are angry that their funding got reduced...but, what else? For what it's worth....most national politically-oriented talk hosts have experienced significant drops in total ratings in the past couple years. On TV, Fox News, although not totally political, but in all honesty their programming position is pretend to be moderate, but really promote right-wing views...they are off 30% in 2006 -vs- 2005...though still very strong/#1. From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Sun Dec 17 12:18:54 2006 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:18:54 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk References: <20061216.085344.723.1516551@webmail21.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <007901c721ff$6e6469c0$7f994c0c@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Dillane To: Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk > On other hand, maybe progressive talk radio lacks decent ratings in > places like Boston and New Haven because moderates and liberals > prefer other sources like public radio, blogs, daily newspapers (like > the Globe, Times or Courant), alternative newspapers, etc. > Or because conservatives have little interest in hearing what the "other side" -- which they often consider "un-American" or "unpatriotic" -- has to say. I disagree with Savage and Limbaugh, but I don't question their belief in American democracy; I just think they misunderstand some aspects of it. Yes, there are many liberals who characterize certain aspects of the conservative agenda as "dangerous," but I don't see them accusing the other side of treason the way many conservatives do. Howard From hmadjid@gmail.com Sun Dec 17 14:21:22 2006 From: hmadjid@gmail.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:21:22 -0500 Subject: How did WMFO get away with that?? In-Reply-To: <45834CE9.10974.6406CC@localhost> References: <45834CE9.10974.6406CC@localhost> Message-ID: On 12/16/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > I thought it was allowable after 10 PM or something like that. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > I thought that nowadays, the Bushie / neocons got rid of the 10pm - after the kiddies are safely in bed exemption -- 73 de Hakim (N1ZFF) From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Dec 17 21:03:26 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:03:26 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612171803k243d99a7lfe5312809758486b@mail.gmail.com> Newsweek has an article talking about the tumult at Air America. Not only were they building up huge amounts of debt, but there was no network "program director" to handle clashing producers and hosts; just when they started to make headway, some of their most popular shows were cancelled, angering listeners, and they had no realistic business model. Michael Harrison of "Talkers" is quoted as saying that liberal talk radio still can fly, but as for AAR, "If they'd hired broadcasters instead of a bunch of comedians, they would have had a chance of succeeding." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16253873/site/newsweek/ From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Dec 17 21:44:07 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:44:07 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612171803k243d99a7lfe5312809758486b@mail.gmail.co m> References: <1fbbbced0612171803k243d99a7lfe5312809758486b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061218024432.C0FF944C050@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 09:03 PM 12/17/2006, Bob Nelson wrote: >Newsweek has an article talking about the tumult at Air America. Not >only were they >building up huge amounts of debt, but there was no network "program >director" to >handle clashing producers and hosts; just when they started to make headway, >some of their most popular shows were cancelled, angering listeners, >and they had >no realistic business model. These are all things I have said for 2 years. Notice that the Jones Radio hosts are still on the air, still stable, no programming changes, and 2 of the 3 they syndicate are turning a profit, while the 3rd is too new and on too few stations to make any judgements at this point. Ed Schultz is now being asked to be a pundit on MSNBC, Larry King Live, and elsewhere, and so is Stephanie Miller. Sadly, several of AAR's hosts with radio experience were actually gaining some traction but the turmoil at the network really hurt them. And I don't usually say this, but no kidding, I BEGGED AAR TO LET ME CONSULT THEM. (So did several other experienced consultants.) Consultants are not the magic answer, but hey, you know me-- I could have helped them; I am not about ideology when I am working, and I've trained some outstanding conservative talkers over the years, as well as working with some liberals. I don't care about the politics as long as the person is interesting and entertaining. Btw, I am not one to beg for business; I can assure you, I make a living. But in the case of AAR, I felt they were throwing away a good concept and missing a golden opportunity to attract an audience. I even flew out to their group meetings last year at my own expense and made a pitch to work with them, but they said they were doing fine, thanks. I've worked with several individual AAR affiliates very quietly, but nobody at AAR would even consider bringing in (gasp) radio people to give them some direction. [picture of Donna throwing things at her computer screen in utter frustration...] From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Dec 17 21:49:33 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:49:33 -0500 Subject: AM's using IBOC (Was: WNNW In HD? Message-ID: > > From: "Laurence Glavin" > CC: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > To: "Don A." , > "Bradford Wood" , > "Dan Strassberg" > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:44:49 -0500 > Subject: Re: AM's using IBOC (Was: WNNW In HD? > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Don A." > >To: "Bradford Wood" , "Dan Strassberg" > >Subject: AM's using IBOC (Was: WNNW In HD? > >Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:42:37 -0500 > > >What other AM stations are using IBOC? > >WBZ of course... > >Any others? > >Did I hear it on WRKO too? > > Around here, the AM's include WMKI 1260 Radio Disney > And WXKS 1430 soon to be "Rumba" Those are the only three, WBZ, WMKI and WXKS. WILD 1090 was running it earlier this year while they were airing Gospel music. They apparently shut it off around the time that they recently switched to syndicated talk. EP From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Dec 17 22:30:21 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:30:21 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America References: <1fbbbced0612171803k243d99a7lfe5312809758486b@mail.gmail.com> <20061218024432.C0FF944C050@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <001301c72254$dd2c1740$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Who is Jones's third progressive talker--Bill Press? I've heard the name, but I don't think I've ever heard the program or ever heard HIM on any program. As I said in another post, I've seen the lineup--or what's supposed to be the lineup--at the progressive talker in Phoenix, the station that Shelly Drovny (spelling?) purportedly lined up after some right-wing Christian group bought the 1060 station that had been carrying AAR there. With the possible exception of Thom Hartmann, who, I've heard, self syndicates his show, the new Phoenix lineup is AAR free. IIRC, the lineup is also Bill Press free. Mike Malloy is on in what I believe is Press's time slot and Malloy is being "syndicated" (I put that in quotes because I believe that Phoenix is his only affiliate) by Nova-M, the "network" that Drovny is allegedly bankrolling. The worst shame of AAR's demise is that it simply gives the righties all the credence they need when they say that progressive talk doesn't work, never has, and never will. That was the buzz before AAR started. Now the righties can wave that banner wherever they choose and nobody will bother to challenge them. Nobody who could rescue progressive talk gives a damn that AAR failed because of blatent mismanagement coupled with the refusal--even AFTER the mid-term election results--of a lot of advertisers--national and local--to air their messages on progressive-talk stations. In addition, no group owner (and I am including companies that committed affiliates to the programming but never tried to provide any of the other resources that are normally necessary to make a new format succeed) did much more than pay lip service to the programming. In sum, AAR's contribution to fairness in talk radio looks to me like a HUGE negative--something that I'm convinved will cost the Democrats dearly in election cycles to come. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Bob Nelson" ; ; Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:44 PM Subject: Re: Newsweek article on Air America > At 09:03 PM 12/17/2006, Bob Nelson wrote: > >Newsweek has an article talking about the tumult at Air America. Not > >only were they > >building up huge amounts of debt, but there was no network "program > >director" to > >handle clashing producers and hosts; just when they started to make headway, > >some of their most popular shows were cancelled, angering listeners, > >and they had > >no realistic business model. > > These are all things I have said for 2 years. Notice that the Jones > Radio hosts are still on the air, still stable, no programming > changes, and 2 of the 3 they syndicate are turning a profit, while > the 3rd is too new and on too few stations to make any judgements at > this point. Ed Schultz is now being asked to be a pundit on MSNBC, > Larry King Live, and elsewhere, and so is Stephanie Miller. Sadly, > several of AAR's hosts with radio experience were actually gaining > some traction but the turmoil at the network really hurt them. > > And I don't usually say this, but no kidding, I BEGGED AAR TO LET ME > CONSULT THEM. (So did several other experienced > consultants.) Consultants are not the magic answer, but hey, you > know me-- I could have helped them; I am not about ideology when I > am working, and I've trained some outstanding conservative talkers > over the years, as well as working with some liberals. I don't care > about the politics as long as the person is interesting and > entertaining. Btw, I am not one to beg for business; I can assure > you, I make a living. But in the case of AAR, I felt they were > throwing away a good concept and missing a golden opportunity to > attract an audience. I even flew out to their group meetings last > year at my own expense and made a pitch to work with them, but they > said they were doing fine, thanks. I've worked with several > individual AAR affiliates very quietly, but nobody at AAR would even > consider bringing in (gasp) radio people to give them some > direction. [picture of Donna throwing things at her computer screen > in utter frustration...] > From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Dec 18 00:21:43 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:21:43 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: <001301c72254$dd2c1740$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <1fbbbced0612171803k243d99a7lfe5312809758486b@mail.gmail.com> <20061218024432.C0FF944C050@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001301c72254$dd2c1740$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: At 10:30 PM -0500 12/17/06, Dan Strassberg wrote: > Mike Malloy is on in what I believe is Press's time >slot and Malloy is being "syndicated" (I put that in quotes because I >believe that Phoenix is his only affiliate) by Nova-M, the "network" that >Drovny is allegedly bankrolling. Malloy goes national on Monday, he'll be on Sirius Left 146, 9 PM to midnight weekdays. Stephanie Miller moves to 6 to 9 PM weekdays. Perhaps this is the successful left-wing talk channel that many of us have been looking for. Speaking of left-wing talk, does anyone know how Buffalo's Left Channel (WWKB 1520) is doing, or is it too soon to ask? -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From scott@fybush.com Mon Dec 18 00:25:53 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:25:53 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: References: <1fbbbced0612171803k243d99a7lfe5312809758486b@mail.gmail.com> <20061218024432.C0FF944C050@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001301c72254$dd2c1740$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <45862661.3090702@fybush.com> Larry Weil wrote: > At 10:30 PM -0500 12/17/06, Dan Strassberg wrote: > >> Mike Malloy is on in what I believe is Press's time >> slot and Malloy is being "syndicated" (I put that in quotes because I >> believe that Phoenix is his only affiliate) by Nova-M, the "network" that >> Drovny is allegedly bankrolling. > > Malloy goes national on Monday, he'll be on Sirius Left 146, 9 PM to > midnight weekdays. Stephanie Miller moves to 6 to 9 PM weekdays. > Perhaps this is the successful left-wing talk channel that many of us > have been looking for. > > Speaking of left-wing talk, does anyone know how Buffalo's Left Channel > (WWKB 1520) is doing, or is it too soon to ask? > Don't ask. (The ugly details about progressive talk's fate in Buffalo are in the NERW that just went up at fybush.com...) s From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Dec 18 00:38:14 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:38:14 -0500 Subject: bye bye Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <001201c721e8$28a63920$509c4a47@tim98b01b5ec4c> Message-ID: <4585E2F6.15054.69B9A4@localhost> On 17 Dec 2006 at 9:32, Tim wrote: > Plus, where did this "public radio heavily favors liberal policies" > thing get started? I know they are angry that their funding got > reduced...but, what else? To anyone of fanatical opinions, right or left, a station or newspaper is biased against them if its coverage isn't 100% favorable to their point of view. Some people on the right, who have been very powerful, at least until 7 November, fall into that category and have been very loud with their opinions. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Dec 18 00:38:14 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:38:14 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612171803k243d99a7lfe5312809758486b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4585E2F6.20409.69BA21@localhost> On 17 Dec 2006 at 21:03, Bob Nelson wrote: > Newsweek has an article talking about the tumult at Air America. Not > only were they building up huge amounts of debt, but there was no > network "program director" to handle clashing producers and hosts; > just when they started to make headway, some of their most popular > shows were cancelled, angering listeners, and they had no realistic > business model. Michael Harrison of "Talkers" is quoted as saying that > liberal talk radio still can fly, but as for AAR, "If they'd hired > broadcasters instead of a bunch of comedians, they would have had a > chance of succeeding." Interesting article. But I've never heard why those shows were cancelled. Anyone know? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Dec 18 00:39:01 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:39:01 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: References: <1fbbbced0612171803k243d99a7lfe5312809758486b@mail.gmail.com> <20061218024432.C0FF944C050@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001301c72254$dd2c1740$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <20061218053927.B94426426C1@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> >Larry asked-- >Speaking of left-wing talk, does anyone know how Buffalo's Left >Channel (WWKB 1520) is doing, or is it too soon to ask? Too soon-- they are still airing brokered programming on weekends and repeating their local talk show twice a day. They still need at least one more personality, be it a Jones talk show host or somebody local. And they don't really do much promotion yet-- I think they are still finding their way. From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Dec 18 00:50:58 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:50:58 -0500 Subject: WCRB transition Message-ID: <4585E5F2.10065.75604F@localhost> A friend of mine told me today that he was surprised when the car radio in his new Prius automatically reset itself to tune to 99.5 for WCRB. What sort of mechanism will cause it to do that? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Dec 18 00:38:16 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:38:16 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: <001301c72254$dd2c1740$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <4585E2F8.3356.69C20F@localhost> On 17 Dec 2006 at 22:30, Dan Strassberg wrote: > The worst shame of AAR's demise is that it simply gives the righties > all the credence they need when they say that progressive talk doesn't > work, never has, and never will. That was the buzz before AAR started. > Now the righties can wave that banner wherever they choose and nobody > will bother to challenge them. Nobody who could rescue progressive > talk gives a damn that AAR failed because of blatent mismanagement > coupled with the refusal--even AFTER the mid-term election results--of > a lot of advertisers--national and local--to air their messages on > progressive-talk stations. In addition, no group owner (and I am > including companies that committed affiliates to the programming but > never tried to provide any of the other resources that are normally > necessary to make a new format succeed) did much more than pay lip > service to the programming. In sum, AAR's contribution to fairness in > talk radio looks to me like a HUGE negative--something that I'm > convinved will cost the Democrats dearly in election cycles to come. I think you are a bit too pessimistic. First of all, the story has been so much about AAR's mismanagement that it'll be hard to miss. Some people like Rush or Bill O'Reilly may try to spin it differently, but anyone in the industry certainly must be aware of that reality. And as for the Democrats politically, I don't think this year's win depended all that much on Air America, though it helped. It depended on political and demographic change in the countryand the failure of Bush's policies, combined with a grass-roots organizing model that has been pushed by Howard Dean at the national level and others, such as Deval Patrick, at local levels. Incidentally, two of the people way behind the scenes who put together a lot of the details of the precinct-by-precinct organizing in Massachusetts were two old-hands, Jack Corrigan and Michael Dukakis. The techniques were old -- they appear in a handbook on organizing that Abraham Lincoln wrote for the Whig Party in 1840 (the Whigs won that year) and were used by Aaron Burr in 1800. The use of the Internet was new. Air America and other progressive talk shows may have helped fire up the troops, but this was going to happen anyway, and the changes in the country are very real and long-term. The Democrats didn't take over the New Hampshire Legislature because of Air America. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Dec 18 00:58:44 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:58:44 -0500 Subject: WCRB transition In-Reply-To: <4585E5F2.10065.75604F@localhost> References: <4585E5F2.10065.75604F@localhost> Message-ID: At 12:50 AM -0500 12/18/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >A friend of mine told me today that he was surprised when the car >radio in his new Prius automatically reset itself to tune to 99.5 for >WCRB. What sort of mechanism will cause it to do that? Probably RDS. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Dec 18 01:06:49 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 01:06:49 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: <4585E2F8.3356.69C20F@localhost> References: <4585E2F8.3356.69C20F@localhost> Message-ID: At 12:38 AM -0500 12/18/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > >Air America and other progressive talk shows may have helped fire up >the troops, but this was going to happen anyway, and the changes in >the country are very real and long-term. The Democrats didn't take >over the New Hampshire Legislature because of Air America. Especially since AA cannot be heard in most of NH, except by listening online. My guess is that most of the online listening is by the people who are going to vote Democratic anyway, and thus is preaching to the choir. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Dec 18 01:11:47 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 01:11:47 -0500 Subject: WCRB transition In-Reply-To: References: <4585E5F2.10065.75604F@localhost> Message-ID: <4585EAD3.11932.886F7D@localhost> On 18 Dec 2006 at 0:58, Larry Weil wrote: > At 12:50 AM -0500 12/18/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > >A friend of mine told me today that he was surprised when the car > >radio in his new Prius automatically reset itself to tune to 99.5 for > >WCRB. What sort of mechanism will cause it to do that? > > Probably RDS. What's RDS? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From francini@mac.com Mon Dec 18 01:22:12 2006 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 01:22:12 -0500 Subject: WCRB transition In-Reply-To: <4585EAD3.11932.886F7D@localhost> References: <4585E5F2.10065.75604F@localhost> <4585EAD3.11932.886F7D@localhost> Message-ID: Stands for Radio Data System. A means of transmitting small amounts of data on a 57 kHz subcarrier on an FM station's signal. Wikipedia has more: Hope this helps to some extent... John Francini At 1:11 -0500 12/18/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >On 18 Dec 2006 at 0:58, Larry Weil wrote: > >> At 12:50 AM -0500 12/18/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >> >> >A friend of mine told me today that he was surprised when the car >> >radio in his new Prius automatically reset itself to tune to 99.5 for >> >WCRB. What sort of mechanism will cause it to do that? >> >> Probably RDS. > >What's RDS? > >-- >A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 >Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com -- John Francini, francini@mac.com "The journey is more important than the destination-that's part of life. If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always disappointed." -Donald Knuth From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Dec 18 01:29:01 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 01:29:01 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: References: <4585E2F8.3356.69C20F@localhost> Message-ID: <20061218062926.306D864C227@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Larry wrote-- >Especially since AA cannot be heard in most of NH, except by >listening online. My guess is that most of the online listening is >by the people who are going to vote Democratic anyway, and thus is >preaching to the choir. Well, the righties are often preaching to the choir too, but nobody says right wing talk shouldn't exist, whereas a lot of critics asserted that there was no need for progressive talk since allegedly the media are liberal-- which is utter nonsense, as I have said many times. The media are corporate and tend to follow whoever is in power-- the favourable coverage the president received in the run-up to the Iraq war and the mainstream media's total lack of questioning of his policies until Hurricane Katrina has been remarked upon by columnists both left and right. As I see it, whether Air America lasts or vanishes won't affect a lot of cities since the majority of affiliates tended to be weak signals with no promotion. But what will affect a lot of cities is that certain individual talk hosts are getting their own affiliates nation-wide, with or without Air America. Ed Schultz, as I have mentioned before, is on some stations that have some righties and some lefties. Ditto for Stephanie Miller. I doubt that Jones will abandon their progressive hosts, since as I said in an earlier post, Ed has been turning a profit for over a year and Stephanie is breaking even and nearly turning a profit. I expect other hosts like Thom Hartmann or Rachel Maddow to get out from under AAR and syndicate themselves, which may mean there are not as many all-progressive stations but there may be more stations with a combination of some right wing hosts and some liberal or moderate hosts. But let's not entirely write off progressive talk just yet. It has a loyal following in certain markets and I doubt that will change no matter who is in control of congress, just as whether it was a Republican or a Democratic congress didn't affect Rush Limbaugh's numbers. The good radio hosts will survive somehow, no matter what their political persuasion may be. From ewerme@comcast.net Mon Dec 18 08:24:34 2006 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:24:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: WCRB transition Message-ID: <20061218132434.1ECF04876B@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> > On 18 Dec 2006 at 0:58, Larry Weil wrote: >> At 12:50 AM -0500 12/18/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >> >A friend of mine told me today that he was surprised when the car >> >radio in his new Prius automatically reset itself to tune to 99.5 for >> >WCRB. What sort of mechanism will cause it to do that? >> Probably RDS. What's RDS? Google got me to that web page John posted, perhaps the germane feature is one of: # AF: Alternate Frequencies. This allows a receiver to re-tune to a different frequency providing the same station when the first signal becomes too weak (e.g. when moving out of range). This is often utilised in car stereo systems. # PI: Program Identification. This is the unique code that identifies the station. Every station receives a specific code with a country prefix. # PS: Program Service. This is simply an eight-character static display that represents the call letters or station identity name. Most RDS capable receivers display this information and, if the station is stored in the receiver's presets, will cache this information with the frequency and other details associated with that preset. So maybe when the radio preset was made it recorded the call letters or some other uniquely WCRB item and when 102.5 wasn't satisfactory, it was redirected to or went looking for another WCRB source. http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/broadcast/rds/rds.php suggests: Autotuning RDS brings intelligence into the tuning of a radio. The autotuning facility comes into its own on long journeys when the car moves from the service area of one transmitter to the next. Without RDS the radio has to be manually tuned to the next station. This is not always easy because it is difficult to reliably detect which is the strongest station. An RDS set will look for the Programme Identification or PI code. A national network will be broadcast from a large number of different transmitters around the country. The station or network eg Radio 4 will have its own PI code. When the radio moves out of the range of one transmitter the radio will seek the strongest signal which has the same PI code, allowing the radio to remain tuned to the same programme. When radios fitted with RDS store a station frequency, they also store the PI code along side it. This has the advantage that when the radio is turned on in a place outside the coverage area for the transmitter frequency which is stored then the radio will seek the strongest signal which has the correct PI code. Local radio stations also have a PI code. In view of the local nature of these stations the PI code works slightly differently. If the station has two or more transmitters then the PI code will operate in the normal way when it is range of these transmitters. However when the radio moves outside this coverage area it will retune to the strongest signal of the same type of station. The PI code consists of four characters. The first indicates the country of origin and for the UK this is C. The next one indicates the type of coverage. The figure "2" indicates a national station, and the final two characters are the programme reference. For example Radio 3 has the PI code C203 and BBC GLR has C311. Instant Tuning It takes a number of seconds for the radio to search for the strongest signal with the correct PI code. During this time the radio would mute itself and the listener would have an annoying gap in listening. To enable the set to tune itself very quickly from one transmission to the next each transmitter broadcasts a short list of frequencies of adjacent transmitters. This vastly reduces the amount of seeking which the radio set has to perform. In addition to this a second front end is often employed to constantly detect the strength of the alternative frequency transmissions. This results in much faster changes in setting - to the extent that the listener should not be able to detect when the radio changes from one transmitter to another. Another facility associated with tuning is called the Programme Service Name (PS). This enables the set to display the station name. This normally takes a second or two to come up on the display after the station has been tuned in. However it is a most useful facility with the ever-increasing number of stations on the air. -Ric Werme From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Dec 18 09:17:50 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:17:50 -0500 Subject: WCRB transition In-Reply-To: <20061218132434.1ECF04876B@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> References: <20061218132434.1ECF04876B@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612180617p3e1de220r5359bce5072da398@mail.gmail.com> A couple years ago I rented a car and found it had RDS--you'd tune to a station like WROR and the call letters and name of artist and song would pop up. I would think the same "artist and song title" technology is what's on some station websites these days (for WKLB: Now Playing --Carrie Underwood 'Before He Cheats') And some CDs we've gotten at WMWM display the CD artist/title on the CD display (only a few) when you put it in, etc. The same type of encoding happens (or a similar type) when I put a CD into my comp. to rip it to the hard drive and then transfer cuts to my mp3 player; song title and artist comes up first on the software I use, and then of course on the mp3 player too. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Dec 18 09:29:43 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:29:43 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: <001301c72254$dd2c1740$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <1fbbbced0612171803k243d99a7lfe5312809758486b@mail.gmail.com> <20061218024432.C0FF944C050@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001301c72254$dd2c1740$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612180629j67b60311n233c8fae432ee73a@mail.gmail.com> On 12/17/06, Dan Strassberg wrote: > Who is Jones's third progressive talker--Bill Press? I've heard the name, > but I don't think I've ever heard the program or ever heard HIM on any > program. Press airs mornings on WARF in Akron, OH. I think he used to do a debate show with Pat Buchanan on MSNBC. > Shelly Drovny (spelling?) Drobny I think > slot and Malloy is being "syndicated" The Nova M site said he has 3 or 4 stations at this point IIRC Progressive talk can work but AAR did not due to management, clashes of various sorts, etc, and Jones so far is the one bit of bright news they have. And there are other outlets like Nova M and even Fox/Premiere, with Alan Colmes, than show promise. From brian_vita@cssinc.com Mon Dec 18 09:38:26 2006 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:38:26 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: <20061218024432.C0FF944C050@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <1fbbbced0612171803k243d99a7lfe5312809758486b@mail.gmail.com> <20061218024432.C0FF944C050@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4586A7E2.8010406@cssinc.com> Donna Halper wrote: > > These are all things I have said for 2 years. Notice that the Jones > Radio hosts are still on the air, still stable, no programming > changes, and 2 of the 3 they syndicate are turning a profit, while the > 3rd is too new and on too few stations to make any judgements at this > point. Ed Schultz is now being asked to be a pundit on MSNBC, Larry > King Live, and elsewhere, and so is Stephanie Miller. Sadly, several > of AAR's hosts with radio experience were actually gaining some > traction but the turmoil at the network really hurt them. > > And I don't usually say this, but no kidding, I BEGGED AAR TO LET ME > CONSULT THEM. (So did several other experienced consultants.) > Consultants are not the magic answer, but hey, you know me-- I could > have helped them; I am not about ideology when I am working, and I've > trained some outstanding conservative talkers over the years, as well > as working with some liberals. I don't care about the politics as > long as the person is interesting and entertaining. Btw, I am not one > to beg for business; I can assure you, I make a living. But in the > case of AAR, I felt they were throwing away a good concept and missing > a golden opportunity to attract an audience. I even flew out to their > group meetings last year at my own expense and made a pitch to work > with them, but they said they were doing fine, thanks. I've worked > with several individual AAR affiliates very quietly, but nobody at AAR > would even consider bringing in (gasp) radio people to give them some > direction. [picture of Donna throwing things at her computer screen > in utter frustration...] Look at the good side. You are not on the list of unsecured creditors in the liquidation who have no chance in hell of getting paid. Unless you enjoy working pro bono, you are likely much better off. There are idiots in every business. I've dealt with my share of folks whose business plans make a train wreck look safer. I even had one who retained me, ignored my advice completely and then tried to sue me when his business failed.claiming it was my fault. My take on AAR was that they were not "lost sheep" that needed some direction but rather blow hards who knew more than everyone else and weren't about to listen (speaking of management, not that my view of the talent differs greatly). The management was dubious from Day 1 with shady financing, back door deals and cooked books. They were so dirty that they made Clear Channel look holy. Brian Vita From brian_vita@cssinc.com Mon Dec 18 09:48:46 2006 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:48:46 -0500 Subject: WCRB transition In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612180617p3e1de220r5359bce5072da398@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061218132434.1ECF04876B@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> <1fbbbced0612180617p3e1de220r5359bce5072da398@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4586AA4E.2070404@cssinc.com> Bob Nelson wrote: > A couple years ago I rented a car and found it had RDS--you'd tune to > a station like > WROR and the call letters and name of artist and song would pop up. I > would think the > same "artist and song title" technology is what's on some station > websites these > days (for WKLB: Now Playing --Carrie Underwood 'Before He Cheats') > > And some CDs we've gotten at WMWM display the CD artist/title on the > CD display (only > a few) when you put it in, etc. The same type of encoding happens (or > a similar type) > when I put a CD into my comp. to rip it to the hard drive and then > transfer cuts to my > mp3 player; song title and artist comes up first on the software I > use, and then of course > on the mp3 player too. Actually most automation software systems, including the upgraded version of WMWM's have an output to send to a RDS encoder box that is inserted into the transmitter chain. It would take that info and transmit it along with our audio. In the case where we're live and not using the computer, it would either transmit station calls, a positioner or simply nothing. I believe that the system transmits several fields, some static (ie station calls/positioner) and some dynamic (song/artist/traffic/weather/commercial tag line - "Call ANdrew 8-8000"). The bigger question in the case of WMWM is how many of our listeners have RDS capable radios? WMWM has listeners? Brian Vita From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Dec 18 09:53:45 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:53:45 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: <4586A7E2.8010406@cssinc.com> References: <1fbbbced0612171803k243d99a7lfe5312809758486b@mail.gmail.com> <20061218024432.C0FF944C050@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <4586A7E2.8010406@cssinc.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612180653j72a263a1l62f59d75c4690830@mail.gmail.com> More via the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/business/media/18air.html?ex=1324098000&en=45e004064f38630e&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss ""What they did for $45 million they could have done for $10 million."--Sheldon Drobny "...overstaffed with more than 100 employees when two dozen would have sufficed." From elipolo@earthlink.net Mon Dec 18 12:46:33 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:46:33 -0500 Subject: WCRB transition Message-ID: > > From: Brian Vita > CC: Ric Werme , > boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > To: Bob Nelson > Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:48:46 -0500 > Subject: Re: WCRB transition > > The bigger question in the case of WMWM is how many of our > listeners have RDS capable radios? WMWM has listeners? I listened to some of "The Juke Joint" in the car in Newton this weekend. It's spotty when moving, but it comes in when parked in a good reception spot. The area is far enough away from adjacents WMFO and WUMB so that they don't splatter on a digital car tuner. It doesn't come in on the south side near Route 9, though. Too close to interference from FM-128. EP From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Dec 18 13:51:01 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:51:01 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America References: <1fbbbced0612171803k243d99a7lfe5312809758486b@mail.gmail.com><20061218024432.C0FF944C050@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com><4586A7E2.8010406@cssinc.com> <1fbbbced0612180653j72a263a1l62f59d75c4690830@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <03e101c722d7$aea04300$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > More via the New York Times > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/business/media/18air.html?ex=1324098000&en=45e004064f38630e&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss I am going to toss out an idea for thought.... After reading both the Newsweek and the NY Times article...I have to find myself wondering if Liberals or Progressives understand what it takes to run a business and keep it going. While generalizations are always never 100% correct....they cliche was always that Republicans understood business. When I read the article, I can't help but think that the ideologues seemed to want to run AA as a charity....or at best a non-profit organization. ""What they did for $45 million they could have done for $10 million."--Sheldon Drobny "...overstaffed with more than 100 employees when two dozen would have sufficed." ...back to cliche's....the above comments make it sound like a government program! From hykker@grolen.com Mon Dec 18 14:13:53 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (Steve Ordinetz) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:13:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: <001301c72254$dd2c1740$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <1fbbbced0612171803k243d99a7lfe5312809758486b@mail.gmail.com> <20061218024432.C0FF944C050@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001301c72254$dd2c1740$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <49515.63.118.166.2.1166469233.squirrel@63.118.166.2> Dan Strassberg wrote... > In sum, AAR's contribution to fairness in talk > radio looks to me like a HUGE negative--something that I'm convinved will > cost the Democrats dearly in election cycles to come. > I doubt the demise of AAR will make a dime's worth of difference in election years...conservative talk is much more entrenched, and we all see the effect IT had on Republicans this year. Talk radio in general is nowhere as influential as it thinks it is, and a 4th tier network like AAR isn't even on the radar. From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Dec 18 14:05:32 2006 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:05:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Voices of Nashua Media of the past show Tuesday morning Message-ID: <20061218190532.85203.qmail@web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Woody Woodland show on WSMN 1590AM Nashua NH will be featuring the Voices of Nashua Media of the past show Tuesday morning from 7:00AM until 9:00AM. WSMN streams their audio at WSMNradio.com http://azulweb.streamguys.com/absolute.asx http://amber.streamguys.com:4520/listen.pls Maybe the Weather Hawk jingle singers will come out of retirement and pay a visit. John B Derry From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Dec 19 00:38:13 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 00:38:13 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: <03e101c722d7$aea04300$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <45873475.21797.45C693@localhost> On 18 Dec 2006 at 13:51, Don A. wrote: > After reading both the Newsweek and the NY Times article...I have to > find myself wondering if Liberals or Progressives understand what it > takes to run a business and keep it going. > > While generalizations are always never 100% correct....they cliche was > always that Republicans understood business. There are plenty of successful businesses run by liberals. > When I read the article, I can't help but think that the ideologues > seemed to want to run AA as a charity....or at best a non-profit > organization. Ideologues are ideologues, regardless of the ideology. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Dec 19 00:38:14 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 00:38:14 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: <49515.63.118.166.2.1166469233.squirrel@63.118.166.2> References: <001301c72254$dd2c1740$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <45873476.26789.45C6FF@localhost> On 18 Dec 2006 at 14:13, Steve Ordinetz wrote: > I doubt the demise of AAR will make a dime's worth of difference in > election years...conservative talk is much more entrenched, and we all > see the effect IT had on Republicans this year. Talk radio in general > is nowhere as influential as it thinks it is, and a 4th tier network > like AAR isn't even on the radar. Let's keep one thing in mind: The "demise of AAR" hasn't happened yet. According to this morning's news, there is a buyer. What the network will look like remains to be seen, but it looks right now as though its demise will be postponed for awhile. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Dec 19 01:05:14 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:05:14 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America In-Reply-To: <49515.63.118.166.2.1166469233.squirrel@63.118.166.2> References: <001301c72254$dd2c1740$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <45873ACA.7220.5E8344@localhost> ?I have come to understand very clearly that the radio component of this requires a radio professional.? -- Douglas Kreeger, AAR investor So maybe they'll finally let Donna consult them. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Tue Dec 19 02:14:58 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 02:14:58 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America References: <1fbbbced0612171803k243d99a7lfe5312809758486b@mail.gmail.com> <20061218024432.C0FF944C050@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <031601c7233d$8635d2c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > And I don't usually say this, but no kidding, I BEGGED AAR TO LET ME > CONSULT THEM. (So did several other experienced > consultants.) Consultants are not the magic answer, but hey, you > know me-- I could have helped them; I'm sure it must be frustrating to be watching... However, like someone said earlier...You can be glad you are not on the unsecured creditors list....and... Now that they are having all their very publicized problems....it is best that you are not (and were not) associated with it...and there's no way the problems can be a reflection on you. I can't help but think that most of the people there are now 'smeared' with a dark spot on their resume. From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Dec 19 19:55:02 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:55:02 -0500 Subject: format change for Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <45873ACA.7220.5E8344@localhost> References: <001301c72254$dd2c1740$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <45873ACA.7220.5E8344@localhost> Message-ID: <20061220005528.31A7644C00A@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> The Boston Globe is reporting the changeover to Spanish will occur at 12 noon on Thursday. From markwats@comcast.net Tue Dec 19 21:31:02 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:31:02 -0500 Subject: Jack Hynes Delivers Harsh Commentary On Last WLVI Produced Newscast Message-ID: <004801c723de$eb402570$9447da18@Mark> Longtime Boston TV news fixture Jack Hynes delivered an angst-filled commentary on last night's final WLVI produced "Ten O'Clock News" . Starting tonight WHDH Channel 7 will produce the 10 PM news airing on Channel 56. I watched last night's final broadcast. I thought that Jack Hynes looked bitter as he vented the frustrations of himself and the roughly 150 WLVI staffers sent to the unemployment line a week before Christmas. After some chatter and thank yous, the final few minutes consisted of video snipets of the WLVI staffers waving bye to the camera, ending with the lights over the empty anchor desk slowly fading to black. Here's a link to a brief Boston Herald article about Hynes' comments last night: http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=172808 Mark Watson From Dave_in_Boston2001@hotmail.com Tue Dec 19 02:01:51 2006 From: Dave_in_Boston2001@hotmail.com (Dave in Boston) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 02:01:51 -0500 Subject: Newsweek article on Air America References: <45873475.21797.45C693@localhost> Message-ID: > There are plenty of successful businesses run by liberals. I'm sure there are. But generally, businessmen tend to be Republicans. > Ideologues are ideologues, regardless of the ideology. However, Liberal ideologues seem to want to throw money at problems. And AA seems to fit the cliche'. >From the articles: ""What they did for $45 million they could have done for $10 million."--Sheldon Drobny "...overstaffed with more than 100 employees when two dozen would have sufficed." From outofthebusiness@hotmail.com Tue Dec 19 10:23:52 2006 From: outofthebusiness@hotmail.com (Barry Cabbage) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:23:52 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem Message-ID: Two different broadcasters, the same problem: Too wrapped up in their own world to realize the business is about fooling as many people as you can; fooling them as often as you can, and fooling them into writing down the calls for as many quarter hours as you can. AirAmerica missed the point about why Rush and so much of right-wing radio is successful. It's the entertainment first, politics is a distant second. You're not changing anyone's opinions with a damned radio talk show. Rush wasn't the first right winger with a radio microphone, but in the early days he was the first to be entertaining, in that entertainingly pompous persona he assumed from the start. More than that, he knew how to drag people across those magic quarter-hour lines. Radio as polemic doesn't work. The days of tea-bag mail-ins are over. That's why Ingraham is unlistenable. That's why Graham is working off his contract at night while Greater Media counts the days until it expires and they're rid of him. And that's why liberals have so much trouble doing radio, policy wonks are not entertaining and outraged stunts don't lead to habitual listening.. Offhand, I can only recall three talk show hosts of a liberal or progressive bent who have understood that their job is to entertain, and two of them Jerry Williams (in his WMEX/WBZ/WITS/WTIC days) and Bob Lassiter (WLS, WFLA) are dead. Stephanie Miller is the other, all she really needs to take off is to be picked up by a 50-clear or a flame-throwing FM (her 50K L.A. flagship has a pattern that looks like the Hindenberg flying off to the southwest). Air America didn't need consultants, either, it needed to lock everybody in a room and force feed them WKXW Trenton for a couple of weeks, not for the politics, but so they could steal Sabo's formatics. There's nothing new here, careers this business are built on ripping off the occasional successful innovator. Even Paul Harvey stole his act, virtually intact, from Bill Stern. Morning drive radio has transitioned from funnyman with funny voices, to Zoo-like team with traffic girl/entertainment reporter and bad-boy producer to Stern imitators and more recently to O & A imitators (yes, there's a difference). And while we have the liberals shooting themselves in the left boot. We had WCRB also locked, loaded and taking dead aim at the foot. While the cowboy station was braying about how expanded its coverage was, turning the frequency swap into a celebration, the theme on WCRB was "oh well, at least we're still alive." Listeners don't know about coverage maps, ERP, HAAT or any of the rest of it. Tell them something better than "at least we're still alive," tell them "we're in a more convenient dial position", tell them "we're expanding to all the listeners in southern new hampshire who have been clamoring to hear us," tell them "your mug is now a collector's item," tell them any line of bull that makes you seem like the greatest thing ever but don't ever tell them you were near your death bed, that you're lucky to be alive, or that a frequency change is anything other than the greatest thing that has happened to your radio station in the past half-century. I don't think Mazza would have allowed this defeatist tone that came through on the air, but then he's scorned by the "true" classical music crowd because he thought 'CRB should programmed like what it is -- a commercial radio station, not a private listening auditorium for self-styled sophisticates. _________________________________________________________________ Your Hotmail address already works to sign into Windows Live Messenger! Get it now http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Tue Dec 19 23:01:33 2006 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:01:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <722710.6318.qm@web55313.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Barry "out of the business" cabbage wrote: I was following your rant until this: > Listeners don't know about > coverage maps, ERP, HAAT or > any of the rest of it. They know when mthey can't hear a station... > Tell them something better > than "at least we're > still alive," When did WCRB say anything like "at least we're alive"? That was probably what a lot of the fans of the station said....but I never heard that at WCRB. Only "WCRB is moving to 99.5". With all your vitriol....are you hearing things that are not there? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rac@gabrielmass.com Tue Dec 19 23:20:42 2006 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:20:42 -0500 Subject: Jack Hynes Delivers Harsh Commentary On Last WLVI Produced Newscast In-Reply-To: <004801c723de$eb402570$9447da18@Mark> References: <004801c723de$eb402570$9447da18@Mark> Message-ID: <4588BA1A.5080100@gabrielmass.com> A portion of the goodbyes (though not Hynes' commentary) is on the net at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEdKspKlCEQ --RC From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Dec 20 01:13:34 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 01:13:34 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem In-Reply-To: <722710.6318.qm@web55313.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: Message-ID: <45888E3E.17236.4AA974@localhost> On 19 Dec 2006 at 20:01, Donald A. wrote: > > Tell them something better > > than "at least we're > > still alive," > > When did WCRB say anything like "at least we're > alive"? > > That was probably what a lot of the fans of the > station said....but I never heard that at WCRB. Actually, there was one ad -- I don't remember which sponsor -- in which the head of the company placing the ad said something like that. But, of course, advertizing copy is sacrosanct. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Dec 20 01:13:34 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 01:13:34 -0500 Subject: format change for Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <20061220005528.31A7644C00A@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <45873ACA.7220.5E8344@localhost> Message-ID: <45888E3E.6150.4AA906@localhost> On 19 Dec 2006 at 19:55, Donna Halper wrote: > The Boston Globe is reporting the changeover to Spanish will occur at > 12 noon on Thursday. Why are these changeovers at noon these days? Didn't they used to be late at night? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 20 04:34:05 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:34:05 -0500 Subject: format change for Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <45888E3E.6150.4AA906@localhost> References: <45873ACA.7220.5E8344@localhost> <20061220005528.31A7644C00A@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> <45888E3E.6150.4AA906@localhost> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612200134u70a73319nd4d2c7bc186c16a@mail.gmail.com> Here's a link to the Globe article: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2006/12/20/two_am_stations_make_switch_to_latino_music_1166582426/ I picked up a copy of the Globe today at 4 am as I was leaving work (did some overtime; "it's so late it's early...") and just spotted the article. How ironic is it that it's said local DJs will be hired "bucking a Clear Channel trend" for the "Latino" format (one thing that CC did NOT do with prog. talk, other than Jeff Santos once a week, and that was late in the game). Also: "After the (power) upgrade, the radio giant will separate the two stations, giving WXKS-AM its own, as yet undetermined, format." As for when changeovers occur: well I do remember 850 going from WHDH to WEEI was at midnight...in some cases there were changes at 4 pm or so (when WCLB 105.7 became country, IIRC). Noontime was the time for the recent WKLB-WCRB swap and it also was the time of day when 96.9 flipped from country to smooth jazz (it later became talk) and 99.5 flipped from smooth jazz to country. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 20 04:59:52 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:59:52 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem In-Reply-To: <45888E3E.17236.4AA974@localhost> References: <722710.6318.qm@web55313.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <45888E3E.17236.4AA974@localhost> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612200159w3d64c87en9a88b022b364d36d@mail.gmail.com> I would agree with much of what Barry Cabbage said (I note his email address includes "Out of the Business", one of Jerry Williams' sayings (as in, I'm getting...) I would disagree on Ingraham. Yes, like Hannity she can get into her preachy mode on issues like the war, immigration, abortion, etc., but she is entertaining, fast paced, and funny. Almost like the conservative version of Stephanie Miller. Of course anyone's politics can enter into opinions on certain hosts; for everyone who says they love the humor/entertainment value of a Carr or an Ingraham, there are those who would say Franken and Rhodes were doing great, entertaining shows, and that same person would pronounce Carr or Ingraham boring. Maybe it's subjective. From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 20 06:41:05 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:41:05 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem References: <45888E3E.17236.4AA974@localhost> Message-ID: <001b01c7242e$c82964c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> The advertiser is a nursery/garden center in, I think, Bedford. Not sure of the name--Russell's, I believe. All spots for the business seem to be voiced by the advertiser's management and personnel. I used to get really upset at their pronunciation of poinsettia; I could have sworn that there was no i before the final a, but when I finally consulted a dictionary, I learned that I was wrong and the sponsor was correct. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Donald A." Cc: "boston Radio" Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:13 AM Subject: Re: The Air America / WCRB Problem > On 19 Dec 2006 at 20:01, Donald A. wrote: > > > > Tell them something better > > > than "at least we're > > > still alive," > > > > When did WCRB say anything like "at least we're > > alive"? > > > > That was probably what a lot of the fans of the > > station said....but I never heard that at WCRB. > > Actually, there was one ad -- I don't remember which sponsor -- in > which the head of the company placing the ad said something like > that. But, of course, advertizing copy is sacrosanct. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 20 07:02:43 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:02:43 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem References: <722710.6318.qm@web55313.mail.re4.yahoo.com><45888E3E.17236.4AA974@localhost> <1fbbbced0612200159w3d64c87en9a88b022b364d36d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001c01c7242e$c90b3940$19eefea9@dstrassberg> OF COURSE it's subjective, but one comment on this topic that I believe I saw on this list seems to me NOT to be subjective: Somebody referred to Randi Rhodes as the Rush Limbaugh of the left. I think that nobody who has actually listened to Randi, Rush, and Michael Savage could possibly characterize Randi as anything but the Michael Savage of the left. It took me longer to despise Randi than to despise Savage--probably because I agree with Randi on many issues and I agree with Savage on almost none, but once the ennui (no, I think abhorrance is a more apt word) set in, the sense of loathing did not discriminate between left and right. It is interesting that both Savage and Rhodes grew up in New York City (Rhodes in Queens, Savage in the Bronx). I also grew up in the Bronx, and though far from as adapt at polemics as either Savage or Rhodes, I tend to lapse into that style all too easily. Maybe it just comes naturally to New Yorkers. Anyhow, for other exiles from the Big Apple, it's worth noting the negtive reactions that that kind of vitriol produces in people--even people, like me, who were born into it. Perhaps that realization will spare America from a Giuliani candidacy in 2008, and if Rudy does become the Republican presidential candidate, maybe it will spare us from a Giuliani presidency. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; ; Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:59 AM Subject: Re: The Air America / WCRB Problem > I would agree with much of what Barry Cabbage said (I note his email > address includes > "Out of the Business", one of Jerry Williams' sayings (as in, I'm > getting...) I would > disagree on Ingraham. Yes, like Hannity she can get into her preachy mode on > issues like the war, immigration, abortion, etc., but she is > entertaining, fast paced, > and funny. Almost like the conservative version of Stephanie Miller. > > Of course anyone's > politics can enter into opinions on certain hosts; for everyone who > says they love > the humor/entertainment value of a Carr or an Ingraham, there are > those who would > say Franken and Rhodes were doing great, entertaining shows, and that > same person > would pronounce Carr or Ingraham boring. > > Maybe it's subjective. From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Wed Dec 20 08:14:47 2006 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 05:14:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: format change for Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612200134u70a73319nd4d2c7bc186c16a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061220131447.99189.qmail@web58305.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Bob Nelson wrote: > As for when changeovers occur: well I do remember 850 going from WHDH > to WEEI > was at midnight...in some cases there were changes at 4 pm or so > (when WCLB > 105.7 became country, IIRC). Noontime was the time for the recent > WKLB-WCRB > swap and it also was the time of day when 96.9 flipped from country > to > smooth jazz > (it later became talk) and 99.5 flipped from smooth jazz to country. I thought the 850 changeover was about 6 a.m. Hence the infamous toilet-flushing incident. WEEI's switch from news to sports took place at 6 a.m., I recall. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed Dec 20 10:42:26 2006 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:42:26 -0500 Subject: format change for Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <45888E3E.6150.4AA906@localhost> References: <45873ACA.7220.5E8344@localhost> <45888E3E.6150.4AA906@localhost> Message-ID: <458959E2.90500@cssinc.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 19 Dec 2006 at 19:55, Donna Halper wrote: > > >> The Boston Globe is reporting the changeover to Spanish will occur at >> 12 noon on Thursday. >> > > Why are these changeovers at noon these days? Didn't they used to be > late at night? > > Its because Program Directors are largely a nocturnal species that only come out after noon time. Kind of like groundhogs. Ducking and running for cover :-) Brian From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Dec 20 10:52:46 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:52:46 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem In-Reply-To: <001c01c7242e$c90b3940$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <722710.6318.qm@web55313.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <45888E3E.17236.4AA974@localhost> <1fbbbced0612200159w3d64c87en9a88b022b364d36d@mail.gmail.com> <001c01c7242e$c90b3940$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: At 7:02 AM -0500 12/20/06, Dan Strassberg wrote: >OF COURSE it's subjective, but one comment on this topic that I believe I >saw on this list seems to me NOT to be subjective: Somebody referred to >Randi Rhodes as the Rush Limbaugh of the left. I think that nobody who has >actually listened to Randi, Rush, and Michael Savage could possibly >characterize Randi as anything but the Michael Savage of the left. To me, Ed Schultz is the one who I think of, at least style-wise, as the Limbaugh of the left. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 20 11:58:27 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:58:27 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem In-Reply-To: <001c01c7242e$c90b3940$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <722710.6318.qm@web55313.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <45888E3E.17236.4AA974@localhost> <1fbbbced0612200159w3d64c87en9a88b022b364d36d@mail.gmail.com> <001c01c7242e$c90b3940$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612200858m5ed7feabub4c8518c71d776a3@mail.gmail.com> >>the Michael Savage of the left I don't often listen to him but sometimes I'll put him on for a moment; on occasion he can be more mellow and calm, but it's his anger that turns me off--and turns some listeners ON, some who applaud it. He is one of the most-listened to hosts nationally according to that Talkers survey, but it was recently said he dropped big-time in the ratings on WRKO (down 69 per cent, I thought I'd read). They may keep him on especially since it may be cheap to run that show (barter, perhaps) but I'd wonder if they'd keep him on come Red Sox season. Would a different syndicated or, dare we suggest local, host be around after the Sox games end? Possibly something like tape delayed Glenn Beck. Beck is now also among the highest-listened-to shows and he has a TV connection (CNN Headline News). I wouldn't mind Alan Colmes either (was briefly on WRKO in that late evening time slot.) By the way when AAR/prog. talk hosts came out, many liberals probably felt: At last! Someone on the radio who can express what WE feel!...Precisely how many conservatives probably felt when Rush first came on. (The key, by the way, is to be entertaining enough to attract listeners across the political spectrum, including those who might be upset at what the host is saying but still feel he/she is entertaining. If Schultz, Hartmann, or Miller can do this--bring moderates or even conservatives in, and perhaps if another local station were to give them a try...) From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Dec 20 12:03:12 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:03:12 -0500 Subject: format change for Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <20061220131447.99189.qmail@web58305.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <1fbbbced0612200134u70a73319nd4d2c7bc186c16a@mail.gmail.com> <20061220131447.99189.qmail@web58305.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612200903qad3177t212305d0e6abb8c@mail.gmail.com> On 12/20/06, Sean Smyth wrote: > I thought the 850 changeover was about 6 a.m. Hence the infamous > toilet-flushing incident. > > WEEI's switch from news to sports took place at 6 a.m., I recall. Well I remember being out on my back porch with a portable radio around midnight that night, and I heard the ID and the toilet flush then I think they went into a syndicated program, and maybe they went local at 6 am. (I didn't record it; just listened.) And this is confirmed by typing "WHDH toilet flush" into the search engine, and I wind up with bostonradio.org: "At midnight, August 28 (1994), the last WHDH programming came to an end, and an anonymous board operator sent the station to the history books with a recorded toilet flush" http://www.bostonradio.org/stations/1912.html It continues to say that they went to Imus at 5:30 am followed by Dale Arnold at 10. From attychase@comcast.net Wed Dec 20 12:53:20 2006 From: attychase@comcast.net (Robert S Chase) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:53:20 -0500 Subject: WLVI News Bellys Up References: Message-ID: <000601c7245f$bcfcddd0$6400a8c0@HomeOffice> This could not have happened if the cross ownership and ownership separation rules were still in place. Anybody that thinks their removal helped in the expansion of the availability of alternative media sources just doesn't get it. The FCC for a long time has not operated in the public interest rather it operates in the bucklic interest. Tell me we are better off with media monopolies and I'll show you country where the speech is controlled. Bob Chase > Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:31:02 -0500 > From: "Mark Watson" > Subject: Jack Hynes Delivers Harsh Commentary On Last WLVI Produced > Newscast > To: "Boston Radio" > Message-ID: <004801c723de$eb402570$9447da18@Mark> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Longtime Boston TV news fixture Jack Hynes delivered an angst-filled > commentary on last night's final WLVI produced "Ten O'Clock News" . > Starting > tonight WHDH Channel 7 will produce the 10 PM news airing on Channel 56. > > I watched last night's final broadcast. I thought that Jack Hynes looked > bitter as he vented the frustrations of himself and the roughly 150 WLVI > staffers sent to the unemployment line a week before Christmas. After some > chatter and thank yous, the final few minutes consisted of video snipets > of > the WLVI staffers waving bye to the camera, ending with the lights over > the > empty anchor desk slowly fading to black. > > Here's a link to a brief Boston Herald article about Hynes' comments > last > night: > > http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=172808 > > Mark Watson From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 20 12:52:43 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:52:43 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem References: <722710.6318.qm@web55313.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <45888E3E.17236.4AA974@localhost> <1fbbbced0612200159w3d64c87en9a88b022b364d36d@mail.gmail.com> <001c01c7242e$c90b3940$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <1fbbbced0612200858m5ed7feabub4c8518c71d776a3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000a01c7245f$ad64b5a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> In the case of Boston at this time, I think the key is finding someone willing to pay a brokered-time station to carry one program--even if the program has to be taken off the bird locally and put onto a local hard drive because no feed (live or delayed) is available when the station has an open time slot. My guess is that a slot might be available overnight on WBIX or WRCA. I have no idea what the time would cost, however, or whether either station would be willing or able to get the program off the bird and onto a hard drive. If the station took the position that those tasks were the responsibility of the local program "producer" (that is, the person or entity that pays for the time), the logistics could turn out to be (literally) a show stopper. I suppose that if a stream were available on the Internet (either at the available rebroadcst time or earlier), the logistics would be easier. Still, it sounds to me like a task that brokered-time stations consider outside of their area of responsibility. My understanding is that the producer pays for the time and provides the program material in a form the station can use with a minimum of effort. Producers who can't meet those criteria can go somewhere else--if there is such a place. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "Dan Strassberg" ; ; Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: Re: The Air America / WCRB Problem > (The key, by the way, is to be > entertaining enough > to attract listeners across the political spectrum, including those > who might be upset > at what the host is saying but still feel he/she is entertaining. If > Schultz, Hartmann, > or Miller can do this--bring moderates or even conservatives in, and > perhaps if another > local station were to give them a try...) From revdoug1@verizon.net Wed Dec 20 13:06:37 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:06:37 -0500 Subject: WLVI News Bellys Up References: <000601c7245f$bcfcddd0$6400a8c0@HomeOffice> Message-ID: <04bb01c72461$9842f0e0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Amen!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert S Chase" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: WLVI News Bellys Up > This could not have happened if the cross ownership and ownership separation > rules were still in place. Anybody that thinks their removal helped in the > expansion of the availability of alternative media sources just doesn't get > it. The FCC for a long time has not operated in the public interest rather > it operates in the bucklic interest. Tell me we are better off with media > monopolies and I'll show you country where the speech is controlled. > > Bob Chase > > > Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:31:02 -0500 > > From: "Mark Watson" > > Subject: Jack Hynes Delivers Harsh Commentary On Last WLVI Produced > > Newscast > > To: "Boston Radio" > > Message-ID: <004801c723de$eb402570$9447da18@Mark> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > Longtime Boston TV news fixture Jack Hynes delivered an angst-filled > > commentary on last night's final WLVI produced "Ten O'Clock News" . > > Starting > > tonight WHDH Channel 7 will produce the 10 PM news airing on Channel 56. > > > > I watched last night's final broadcast. I thought that Jack Hynes looked > > bitter as he vented the frustrations of himself and the roughly 150 WLVI > > staffers sent to the unemployment line a week before Christmas. After some > > chatter and thank yous, the final few minutes consisted of video snipets > > of > > the WLVI staffers waving bye to the camera, ending with the lights over > > the > > empty anchor desk slowly fading to black. > > > > Here's a link to a brief Boston Herald article about Hynes' comments > > last > > night: > > > > http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=172808 > > > > Mark Watson > > > From ewerme@comcast.net Wed Dec 20 13:16:42 2006 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:16:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Jack Hynes Delivers Harsh Commentary On Last WLVI Produced Newscast Message-ID: <20061220181642.B3BA2487D8@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> > I watched last night's final broadcast. I thought that Jack Hynes looked > bitter as he vented the frustrations of himself and the roughly 150 WLVI > staffers sent to the unemployment line a week before Christmas. I rarely turn on 10 PM news, but for some reason I turned it on that night, possibly figuring I should see if they had changed or not. I was at my computer when I heard people refer to Mike Wankum's last forecast and realized it might be the last broadcast. I was impressed at how well everyone (but Hynes) kept up the stage image of a proper news program. Sort of reminiscent of David Brinkly's last words when he finished his career at the end of a presidental convention. I've got the impression that Hynes volunteered to be the fall guy. While he got a good laugh when he said he intended to be in the business for another 50 years, it's time for him to retire or at least work very part time. I think everyone else could use the last broadcast as an audition tape for their next job. It might even be a good tape to use, with or without Hynes. Well, without Hynes if the audition goes to a Sunbeam station! As for the Christmas timing, having months notice is a big help. My job at HP technically ends this Friday, though my last day in the office was in October and I received notice in September. I'm still receiving a paycheck, though it is funded with my severance pay and I'll get the rest as a lump sum early next year. Having lots of notice is a big help. At least people had a chance to line up new work and/or cut back on Chrismas plans. -Ric From ewerme@comcast.net Wed Dec 20 13:27:28 2006 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:27:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem Message-ID: <20061220182728.5D4BF487D6@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> > ... the theme on WCRB was "oh well, at least > we're still alive." Listeners don't know about coverage maps, ERP, HAAT or > any of the rest of it. Tell them something better than "at least we're > still alive," tell them "we're in a more convenient dial position", tell > them "we're expanding to all the listeners in southern new hampshire who > have been clamoring to hear us," tell them "your mug is now a collector's > item," tell them any line of bull that makes you seem like the greatest > thing ever but don't ever tell them you were near your death bed, that > you're lucky to be alive, or that a frequency change is anything other than > the greatest thing that has happened to your radio station in the past > half-century. Umm, actually, I don't listen to WCRB that much even though I now can. (I just got Dr. Demento's 30th Anniversary Collection, after all!) However, the only thing I've heard were frequent statements of "Thank you for making our switch to 99.5 successful." I kinda expect significant changes, e.g. switch to syndication or other signs of severe belt-tightening, but haven't seen that yet. In fact, I have absolutely no idea who are the winners and losers in the swap other than the coverage changes. -Ric Werme From wollman@csail.mit.edu Wed Dec 20 13:43:08 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:43:08 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem In-Reply-To: <20061220182728.5D4BF487D6@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> References: <20061220182728.5D4BF487D6@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> Message-ID: <17801.33852.762711.241126@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I kinda expect significant changes, e.g. switch to syndication or other > signs of severe belt-tightening, but haven't seen that yet. Remember that CRB's World Classical Network satellite service, which was programmed and voice-tracked entirely by WCRB staff, is used by a number of other Nassau stations, so unless that service gets closed down, it doesn't seem like Nassau would save any money by making WCRB even more generic and voice-tracked than it already is. (Although I don't know if WCN was actually included in the sale, I can't think of any sensible reason why it should have been excluded.) -GAWollman From gallen@nescaum.org Wed Dec 20 12:23:55 2006 From: gallen@nescaum.org (George Allen) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:23:55 -0500 Subject: another twist to the WCRB switch Message-ID: In the odd but true category for this topic, Richard L. Kaye, the WCRB GM in the Ted Jones days, died 2 days before the Dec 1 switch. On must wonder if there's any connection at some undefined level... -- George [a WCRB technical staffer from the 70's] ___________________________ George Allen, NESCAUM 101 Merrimac Street - 10th floor Boston, MA 02114 Tel. 617-259-2035 [direct] gallen@nescaum.org Fax: 617-742-9162 www.nescaum.org From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Dec 20 15:36:28 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:36:28 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem References: <20061220182728.5D4BF487D6@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> <17801.33852.762711.241126@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <001f01c72476$93e137e0$19eefea9@satpro4600> I think Scott knows for sure and he will tell you, but my recollection is that WCN WAS excluded. As you know, however, my recollections are far from infallible. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Ric Werme" Cc: "Boston Radio" Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:43 PM Subject: Re: The Air America / WCRB Problem > (Although I > don't know if WCN was actually included in the sale, I can't think of > any sensible reason why it should have been excluded.) > > -GAWollman > From lglavin@mail.com Wed Dec 20 16:21:19 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:21:19 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem Message-ID: <20061220212120.B92F1164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Barry Cabbage" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem >Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:23:52 -0500 >I don't think >Mazza would have allowed this defeatist tone that came through on >the air, but then he's scorned by the "true" classical music crowd >because he thought 'CRB should programmed like what it is -- a >commercial radio station, not a private listening auditorium for >self-styled sophisticates. Criticism of "self-styled sophisticates" is usually uttered by UN-sophisticates who never buy classical CD's (I wish I could; Virgin and Tower are now closed, and Border's "Classical Department" needs work... I guess amazon.com is my only option now) or attend classical concerts to get a feeling for what's really out there. Just days ago, I mentioned the WCRB ad in the Boston Syphony Orchestra Program that still gives the 102.5 frequency...I came across it because I go to an enormous variety of concerts throughout Greater Boston, ranging from solo recitals (I just celebrated Beethoven's birthday by attending last weekend's performances by the Boston Chamber Music Society, http://www.bostonchambermusic.org ) to fully-staged live operas. Guess what: the people in charge of these organizations have to put fannies in seats and can't afford to go off any deep ends with programs that repel rather than attract ticket-buyers. The Boston Symphony Orchestra may be a special breed with thousands of subscribers who have held tickets for generations...but the smaller players, professional, semi-professional and amateur have to offer fare that would induce people to go out on what may be a winter's night in New England to hear them play, and almost without exception, they violate all the Taliban-like strictures of dumbed-down commercial "classical" radio. Just a few examples (and these are ensembles I heard in person over the past few years): The Wellesley Symphony Orchestra is playing Sibelius after the holidaze, no not "Finlandia" but the Violin Concerto, a popular, beloved but scorned-by-the-likes-of-Mario-Mazza-for-no-apparent-reason; The Lexington Symphony (which I heard do Gustave Holst's one-act opera "Savitra" last month) has scheduled Prokofiev's Second Violin Concert later in the season...too modern for WCRB, but perfectly acceptable and accessible for the self-styled sophisticates in suburban Boston; residents of the Cape Ann can hear another 20th-Century concerto because the Cape Ann Symphony has scheduled Samual Barber's work in that genre (Barber was the composer of the ubiquitous "Adagio for Strings); on the Cape of Cod, their Symphony Orchestra apparently plays in an auditorium with a pipe organ because they've scheduled Francis Poulenc's "Concerto for Organ, Strings and Tympani"...Poulenc was the greatest composer in France in the period after Debussy and Ravel and his works in several styles and genres are widely played, except on WCRB (or WGMS and KDFC for that matter); ok enough concertos (until we get to the Concord Massachusetts Symphony Orchestra)...the Longwood Symphony Orchestra, made up of many medical peofessional in that area, will be doing a symphony by Leonard Bernstein and two shorter orchestra pieces by the aforementioned Samuel Barber; and a group that uses the generic name of New England Philharmonic and is based in Newton, is tackling an opera by the penultimate bete-noire of modernism, Alban Berg, his opera "Wozzeck"! Ok, that's radical for a community orchestra, but they apparently know their audience and what they'll accept AND BERG IS NOW AN ESTABLISHMENT FIGURE GET USED TO IT! Oh, one more organization: the Concord (MA) Symphony Orchestra...that's the semi-pro/amateur group whose concerts I've attended more times than the others, and they have offered a fine jambalaya of the off-beat and conventional over the years. Every spring, they present the winner of a significant instrumental competition, usually performing a concerto for his or her instrument. Last spring, a young Asian woman played the Prokofiev 3rd Piano Concerto to great acclaim. All of this is to give you a mere sample of the fare that's available to the concert-going audiences in Eastern Massachusetts, and I haven't even mentioned the choral groups and chamber music ensembles. As I stated, these organizations don't have a death wish...although it's possible they have their pianos moved by Deathwish Piano Movers (a real company name) and they have no desire to play before empty seats. So the fact that so many of them schedule real 20th-Century pieces that Mario Mazza claimed would empty the room; vocal and choral pieces even though the above-mentioned groups are principally instrumental; and underrepresented pieces of famous composers while still selling tickets on a regular basis year after year belies any assertion that such fare is for the cognoscenti alone. -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From lglavin@mail.com Wed Dec 20 16:26:02 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:26:02 -0500 Subject: another twist to the WCRB switch Message-ID: <20061220212606.45F9C164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "George Allen" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: another twist to the WCRB switch >Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:23:55 -0500 >In the odd but true category for this topic, Richard L. Kaye, the >WCRB GM in the Ted Jones days, died 2 days before the Dec 1 switch. >On must wonder if there's any connection at some undefined >level... >-- George [a WCRB technical staffer from the 70's] Indeed, this information was brought up at the time. Another interesting tidbit: on the closest Saturday to Beethoven's birthday (December 16th) RLK would have a Beethoven's Birthday Party and invite people for cake and refreshments at 750 South Street (I regret now that I never went). Well, this year the LvB nativity was on a SATURDAY! -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From Joe@attorneyross.com Wed Dec 20 16:42:52 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:42:52 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem In-Reply-To: <001f01c72476$93e137e0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <4589680C.26131.BE51BA@localhost> On 20 Dec 2006 Dan Strassberg wrote: > I think Scott knows for sure and he will tell you, but my recollection > is that WCN WAS excluded. As you know, however, my recollections are > far from infallible. So are mine, but I thought getting WCN was one of the reasons Nassau wanted to purchase WCRB, which would mean it would have been included in the sale. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lglavin@mail.com Wed Dec 20 16:31:42 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:31:42 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem Message-ID: <20061220213148.630C5164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan Strassberg" >To: "Garrett Wollman" , "Boston Radio Interest" >Subject: Re: The Air America / WCRB Problem >Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:36:28 -0500 >I think Scott knows for sure and he will tell you, but my recollection is >that WCN WAS excluded. As you know, however, my recollections are far from >infallible. >-- >Dan Strassberg >dan.strassberg@att.net >Fax: 1-707-215-6367 Don't feel bad. Last year, Jon Stewart mentioned on Comedy Central's "Daily Show" after Karol Wojtyla's death but before Joseph Ratzinger's election, that at that moment NO ONE ON EARTH WAS INFALLIBLE. -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Wed Dec 20 22:08:32 2006 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:08:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem In-Reply-To: <20061220212120.B92F1164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <472270.28426.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com> > So the fact that so many of them schedule real > 20th-Century pieces > that Mario Mazza claimed would empty the room; vocal > and choral pieces > even though the above-mentioned groups are > principally instrumental; > and underrepresented pieces of famous composers > while still selling > tickets on a regular basis year after year belies > any assertion that > such fare is for the cognoscenti alone. There are enough "self-styled sophisticates" to fill seats.....but all the people occupoying those seats are not enough to run a radio station. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Dec 20 23:45:24 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:45:24 -0500 Subject: format change for Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612200134u70a73319nd4d2c7bc186c16a@mail.gmail.com> References: <45888E3E.6150.4AA906@localhost> Message-ID: <4589CB14.8594.396408@localhost> On 20 Dec 2006 at 4:34, Bob Nelson wrote: > As for when changeovers occur: well I do remember 850 going from WHDH > to WEEI was at midnight...in some cases there were changes at 4 pm or > so (when WCLB 105.7 became country, IIRC). Noontime was the time for > the recent WKLB-WCRB swap and it also was the time of day when 96.9 > flipped from country to smooth jazz (it later became talk) and 99.5 > flipped from smooth jazz to country. And I recall hearing the WMEX 1150 flip from oldies to business news, and that took place at midnight. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Thu Dec 21 02:10:18 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:10:18 -0500 Subject: Leslie Marshall....from Boston? Message-ID: <000901c724cf$783ad420$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Her website says she is originally from Boston.... Anyone remember her? http://www.lesliemarshall.us/ From lglavin@mail.com Thu Dec 21 11:26:25 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:26:25 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem Message-ID: <20061221162629.486C61CE304@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald A." To: "Laurence Glavin" , "Barry Cabbage" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: The Air America / WCRB Problem Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:08:32 -0800 (PST) > So the fact that so many of them schedule real > 20th-Century pieces > that Mario Mazza claimed would empty the room; vocal > and choral pieces > even though the above-mentioned groups are > principally instrumental; > and underrepresented pieces of famous composers > while still selling > tickets on a regular basis year after year belies > any assertion that such fare is for the cognoscenti alone. >There are enough "self-styled sophisticates" to fill >seats.....but all the people occupoying those seats >are not enough to run a radio station. I wouldn't want to project a total cohort of people who attend every type of classical music event in Greater Boston because there's considerable crossover (including me for example), but talk stations often claim that the people who call in are a small sample of people listening; it seems reasonable that all the people who do in fact go to the trouble of buying tickets, driving, parking, getting baby setters, etc also represent a sample of those who would like to listen to such music ON THE RADIO. -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From lglavin@mail.com Thu Dec 21 11:34:38 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:34:38 -0500 Subject: format change for Boston's progressive talk Message-ID: <20061221163439.565781CE304@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: "Bob Nelson" >Subject: Re: format change for Boston's progressive talk >Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:45:24 -0500 >On 20 Dec 2006 at 4:34, Bob Nelson wrote: > As for when changeovers occur: well I do remember 850 going from WHDH > to WEEI was at midnight...in some cases there were changes at 4 pm or > so (when WCLB 105.7 became country, IIRC). Noontime was the time for > the recent WKLB-WCRB swap and it also was the time of day when 96.9 > flipped from country to smooth jazz (it later became talk) and 99.5 > flipped from smooth jazz to country. >And I recall hearing the WMEX 1150 flip from oldies to business news, >and that took place at midnight. At this very moment, WKOX/WXKS-AM is not only giving NO indication of the switcheroo, but is airing promos for Ed Schultz and Randi Rhodes. -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Dec 21 11:42:01 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:42:01 -0500 Subject: format change for Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <20061221163439.565781CE304@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061221163439.565781CE304@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612210842h636bad69t546d19763ed053fe@mail.gmail.com> > At this very moment, WKOX/WXKS-AM is not only giving NO indication > of the switcheroo, but is airing promos for Ed Schultz and > Randi Rhodes. If it indeed will happen in 20 minutes (after I type this), it's possible that these were just programmed into the computer beforehand (though they could have substituted them with PSAs, etc.) I remember the last "Talking Trivia" (Morgan White Jr.) show on WMRE before the station went "dark" for a few months, and Morgan said at one point, "I notice not too many promos are being aired" (this being the old days when people played promos rather than computer-generated...) Someone laughed. (Morgan then went on to say, as the station would be off-air in a day or so, "If you're owed prizes by any of the shows here...I wouldn't wait too long if I were you" and he urged them to drop by their Brookline Ave. studios ASAP. The WKOX/WXKS prog talk site is still up, including the messageboard--a new post mentions a yahoo group to "save (or restore) prog. talk in Boston". In Madison, WI, some 4,500 signatures were presented to Clear Channel protesting the change of "The Mic" to sports talk on 1/1, but I'm not sure if that will influence their decision. Any efforts in Boston will probably focus on taking it to another station (the WKOXKS board had another post suggesting a ring of smaller stations like WDIS picking up some shows) From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Dec 21 12:07:20 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:07:20 -0500 Subject: la nueva Rumba esta aqui Message-ID: <1fbbbced0612210907u60f75134h92492d289f1b6374@mail.gmail.com> After one final ID as "Boston's Progressive Talk' there was about 2 minutes of silence; at one point, an ad for "Slim 23" showed up (for about 10 second); back to silence, and then "la nueva Rumba" made it's debut---"Mas musica"...a countdown in Spanish, another ID, another 10 sec of silence, and then a tune in Spanish. Not the smoothest transition but there it is. Here it starting at about 12:25 or so at http://wmwm.250free.com/WXKSformatchange.mp3 From SChace@spectro.com Thu Dec 21 13:40:19 2006 From: SChace@spectro.com (Chace, Stephen) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:40:19 -0500 Subject: la nueva Rumba esta aqui Message-ID: Gracias, Muy bien! Sure was a clunky closing for the talk station. At least the Spanish announcer had some heart! Stephen Chace -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:07 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: la nueva Rumba esta aqui After one final ID as "Boston's Progressive Talk' there was about 2 minutes of silence; at one point, an ad for "Slim 23" showed up (for about 10 second); back to silence, and then "la nueva Rumba" made it's debut---"Mas musica"...a countdown in Spanish, another ID, another 10 sec of silence, and then a tune in Spanish. Not the smoothest transition but there it is. Here it starting at about 12:25 or so at http://wmwm.250free.com/WXKSformatchange.mp3 From Joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 21 15:40:44 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:40:44 -0500 Subject: la nueva Rumba esta aqui In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <458AAAFC.7305.5ABFD85@localhost> On 21 Dec 2006 Chace, Stephen wrote: > Muy bien! Sure was a clunky closing for the talk station. At least > the Spanish announcer had some heart! I'm going to have to find some other use for two buttons on my car radio. Three, counting the one that's still set for WJDA. After I listened to the WXKS changeover, I tuned the 1930s radio in my front hall back to WJIB. I've been noticing a loud hum on WXKS, which made the station hard to listen to on that radio. I briefly heard the same noise on WRKO and thought maybe the radio needed a filter capacitor. But there was no noise on WJIB. I suppose the noise I was hearing is the digital signal. I don't hear it on my car radio, but on that older radio, I hear it. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Thu Dec 21 15:47:14 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:47:14 -0500 Subject: la nueva Rumba esta aqui References: <458AAAFC.7305.5ABFD85@localhost> Message-ID: <047401c72541$af3904c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > I'm going to have to find some other use for two buttons on my car > radio. Three, counting the one that's still set for WJDA. How many buttons do you have? What are they set for now? From Joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 21 16:12:19 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:12:19 -0500 Subject: la nueva Rumba esta aqui In-Reply-To: <047401c72541$af3904c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <458AB263.434.5C8E969@localhost> On 21 Dec 2006 Don A. wrote: > > I'm going to have to find some other use for two buttons on my car > > radio. Three, counting the one that's still set for WJDA. > > How many buttons do you have? > > What are they set for now? I have 8 buttons, each of which can be set for one AM and one FM station. The AM settings are for WJIB, WEEI, WBZ, WHDA, WXKS, WKOX, WUNR, and a Providence station that has some Air America programs, or once did. I can't usually get that station, but if I go to court in Brockton or points farther south, I can. The FM settings are for WFCR, WGBH, WBUR, WUMB, WHRB, WATD, WCRB, and WKLB. That dates from a few weeks ago, when I decided that I didn't listen to WBOQ any more and re-set that button to 102.5 and the former 102.5 button to 99.5. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Thu Dec 21 16:35:29 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:35:29 -0500 Subject: la nueva Rumba esta aqui References: <458AB263.434.5C8E969@localhost> Message-ID: <04f101c72547$f1a86840$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > I have 8 buttons, each of which can be set for one AM and one FM > station. The AM settings are for WJIB, WEEI, WBZ, WHDA, WXKS, WKOX, > WUNR... WHDA? Is that a typo? Also, what do you listen to on WUNR? Don From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 21 16:15:24 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:15:24 -0500 Subject: la nueva Rumba esta aqui References: <458AAAFC.7305.5ABFD85@localhost> Message-ID: <004e01c72545$278a61a0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Before you decide that the radio needs work, try tuning to the stations on which you hear the hum and rotating the radio. You may find that in some orientation that doesn't work for you (because, for example, the speaker is facing the wall), the hum disappears. I would expect you'd find the optimal position to be different for different stations. I don't know the cause of this problem, but I have a radio that exhibits what appears to be the same problem on WBZ, and only WBZ. The point is that turning the radio a little bit eliminates the problem, although it produces different problems on other stations. And none of these problens is as annoying (to me) as the reception problems that come and go on various FM stations on various radios as I move about the house. The thing is that these problems are repeatable, so there is an explanation. The FM problem must be the result of reflections of the ~100-MHz signals by my body, resulting in multipath or reduced signal strength. I think the AM hum problem is likely the result of accidentally orienting the radio to produce an unacceptably weak signal out of the radio's antenna.. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Chace, Stephen" Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 3:40 PM Subject: RE: la nueva Rumba esta aqui > On 21 Dec 2006 Chace, Stephen wrote: > > > Muy bien! Sure was a clunky closing for the talk station. At least > > the Spanish announcer had some heart! > > I'm going to have to find some other use for two buttons on my car > radio. Three, counting the one that's still set for WJDA. > > After I listened to the WXKS changeover, I tuned the 1930s radio in > my front hall back to WJIB. I've been noticing a loud hum on WXKS, > which made the station hard to listen to on that radio. I briefly > heard the same noise on WRKO and thought maybe the radio needed a > filter capacitor. But there was no noise on WJIB. I suppose the > noise I was hearing is the digital signal. I don't hear it on my car > radio, but on that older radio, I hear it. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From Joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 21 17:08:19 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:08:19 -0500 Subject: la nueva Rumba esta aqui In-Reply-To: <04f101c72547$f1a86840$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <458ABF83.15730.5FC300C@localhost> On 21 Dec 2006 Don A. wrote: > > > > I have 8 buttons, each of which can be set for one AM and one FM > > station. The AM settings are for WJIB, WEEI, WBZ, WHDA, WXKS, WKOX, > > WUNR... > > WHDA? Is that a typo? Yes, that should have been WJDA. > Also, what do you listen to on WUNR? Not very much right now, but when my mother was alive, I used to go to visit her on Wednesday evening, when they have a program in Yiddish on WUNR. Actually, I was out on Wednesday night a couple of weeks ago and listened to it, but I'm not out on Wednesday night as often as I used to be. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Dec 21 17:18:13 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:18:13 -0500 Subject: la nueva Rumba esta aqui In-Reply-To: <458AB263.434.5C8E969@localhost> References: <047401c72541$af3904c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <458AB263.434.5C8E969@localhost> Message-ID: <20061221221816.06F8F44C0A1@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> Oy vay! Can somebody explain to me why some ethnic stations use IDs with heavy heavy re-verb and tons of processing????? Sounds soooo 1950s. From lglavin@mail.com Thu Dec 21 17:26:02 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:26:02 -0500 Subject: la nueva Rumba esta aqui Message-ID: <20061221222604.5AF97164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chace, Stephen" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: RE: la nueva Rumba esta aqui >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:40:19 -0500 >Gracias, >Muy bien! Sure was a clunky closing for the talk station. At least the >Spanish announcer had some heart! >Stephen Chace To my ears, it was more of a clunky opening for "Radio Rumba" than a clunky closing for Boston's Progressive Talk. Now there are TWO big voice guys in Boston looking for new gigs...Jim Cutler of channel 56 and whoever did the announcing work for WKOX/WXKS-AM ("Take it easy...there's no Rush!") -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From jjlehmann@comcast.net Thu Dec 21 17:33:47 2006 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:33:47 -0500 Subject: Voice Guys In-Reply-To: <20061221222604.5AF97164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <009c01c72550$1547b1e0$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > Now there are TWO big voice guys > in Boston looking for new gigs...Jim Cutler of channel 56 and whoever did > the announcing work for WKOX/WXKS-AM ("Take it easy...there's no Rush!") Jim Cutler is still on 56, not during the news, but for promos for shows, etc, he's there. Of course on the radio, he's still on WEEI. How is it that John Pleasie (sp?) can be on 3 stations in Boston? He's the main voice of WBIX, WAMG/WLLH, and one of several voices used on WBMX! Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Dec 21 18:30:46 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:30:46 -0500 Subject: Voice Guys References: <009c01c72550$1547b1e0$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> Message-ID: <001301c72558$195689c0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Cutler is on both WEEI and, 40-kHz up the dial, on similarly formatted WAMG. I believe he is the voice guy for ESPN nationally as well as for ESPN's local affiliate, WAMG. And who knows how many dozens or hundreds of other stations and networks nationwide? I have the feeling that he is not hurting financially. I've heard that he has complete studio and production facilities in his house in New York. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Lehmann" To: "'Laurence Glavin'" ; "'Chace, Stephen'" ; Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: Voice Guys > > Now there are TWO big voice guys > > in Boston looking for new gigs...Jim Cutler of channel 56 and whoever did > > the announcing work for WKOX/WXKS-AM ("Take it easy...there's no Rush!") > > Jim Cutler is still on 56, not during the news, but for promos for shows, > etc, he's there. Of course on the radio, he's still on WEEI. > > How is it that John Pleasie (sp?) can be on 3 stations in Boston? He's the > main voice of WBIX, WAMG/WLLH, and one of several voices used on WBMX! > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Thu Dec 21 18:47:51 2006 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:47:51 -0500 Subject: Voice Guys In-Reply-To: <001301c72558$195689c0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <00a001c7255a$6e282ec0$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > Cutler is on both WEEI and, 40-kHz up the dial, on similarly formatted > WAMG. > I believe he is the voice guy for ESPN nationally as well as for ESPN's > local affiliate, WAMG. And who knows how many dozens or hundreds of other > stations and networks nationwide? I have the feeling that he is not > hurting > financially. I've heard that he has complete studio and production > facilities in his house in New York. Unless I've missed them, I don't think Cutler does any local liners for WAMG, just the national ones for ESPN radio. All local liners that I've heard have been done by Pleassie(sp?). Other stations he's on include WXLO, WWLI, WLTW New York... Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Dec 21 18:48:15 2006 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:48:15 -0500 Subject: Obscure radio trivia Message-ID: <000001c7255a$7f487d90$e7c105cf@yourm3vezyx8af> A fire on Lisbon Street in Lewiston this week gutted four buildings. At least three of the four are likely to be taken down. One of the buildings was the home of 93.9 WAYU and 1240 WCOU when I worked there in 1986. It was my first full-time job in radio and my first full-time job anywhere. The station moved to Sabattus Street later that year. The building where the station was located there was also recently taken down. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From lglavin@mail.com Thu Dec 21 18:52:05 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:52:05 -0500 Subject: Comment By Clear Channel Exec Message-ID: <20061221235206.446F81BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> I spotted this item in radioandrecords.com's story on the introduction of Radio Rumba; it's in their Format News section: "We are excited about the addition of Rumba 1200 to our family of stations..." said Boston radio president/ market manager Michael Crusham. "This puts us in a better position to offer more choices to our valued listeners and advertisers. Boston was the only top-25 U.S. Hispanic market void of a full-powered signal(?) and we felt the time was right to make this significant format choice." What does it say about a firm that hires a guy whose name is pronounced KRUSH-EM? -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From stephanie@gordsven.com Thu Dec 21 19:45:24 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:45:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: la nueva Rumba esta aqui Message-ID: <1715.66.65.49.10.1166748324.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> On Thu, December 21, 2006 17:18, Donna Halper wrote: > Oy vay! Can somebody explain to me why some ethnic stations use IDs > with heavy heavy re-verb and tons of processing????? Sounds soooo 1950s. Maybe because the ID announcments themselves are probably 1950s leftovers that they found lying in a dusty box somewhere? :) steph From PaulBCurrier@comcast.net Thu Dec 21 18:47:14 2006 From: PaulBCurrier@comcast.net (Paul B Currier) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:47:14 -0500 Subject: la nueva Rumba esta aqui References: <458AAAFC.7305.5ABFD85@localhost> Message-ID: <002a01c7255a$582ae900$123f434b@DG07P241> Yes and much agreed. As I said several months ago, I have less and less use for pre-sets. Such a shame where radio has fallen to. There is really no use for those pushbuttons any longer........ PBC Cape Cod ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Chace, Stephen" Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 3:40 PM Subject: RE: la nueva Rumba esta aqui > On 21 Dec 2006 Chace, Stephen wrote: > > > Muy bien! Sure was a clunky closing for the talk station. At least > > the Spanish announcer had some heart! > > I'm going to have to find some other use for two buttons on my car > radio. Three, counting the one that's still set for WJDA. > > After I listened to the WXKS changeover, I tuned the 1930s radio in > my front hall back to WJIB. I've been noticing a loud hum on WXKS, > which made the station hard to listen to on that radio. I briefly > heard the same noise on WRKO and thought maybe the radio needed a > filter capacitor. But there was no noise on WJIB. I suppose the > noise I was hearing is the digital signal. I don't hear it on my car > radio, but on that older radio, I hear it. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 21 23:30:33 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:30:33 -0500 Subject: la nueva Rumba esta aqui In-Reply-To: <002a01c7255a$582ae900$123f434b@DG07P241> Message-ID: <458B1919.8826.319F21@localhost> On 21 Dec 2006 at 18:47, Paul B Currier wrote: > Yes and much agreed. As I said several months ago, I have less and > less use for pre-sets. Such a shame where radio has fallen to. There > is really no use for those pushbuttons any longer........ Well, there is, but there's just not as many stations as there are presets. Since I go out to Western Massachusetts every so often, I'm thinking of setting the second row of AM buttons for WPNI and WHMP and its satellites. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 21 23:30:33 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:30:33 -0500 Subject: format change for Boston's progressive talk In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612210842h636bad69t546d19763ed053fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061221163439.565781CE304@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <458B1919.1911.319EA7@localhost> On 21 Dec 2006 at 11:42, Bob Nelson wrote: > The WKOX/WXKS prog talk site is still up, including the > messageboard--a new post mentions a yahoo group to "save (or restore) > prog. talk in Boston". I just tried Bostonsprogressivetalk.com and got redirected to www.1200rumba.com with a splash page that says "Sitio en construccion." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dslrpierce@peoplepc.com Fri Dec 22 09:55:01 2006 From: dslrpierce@peoplepc.com (dslrpierce@peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:55:01 -0500 Subject: Obscure radio trivia References: <000001c7255a$7f487d90$e7c105cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <003801c725d9$295d4da0$62a1e904@your6jnhhu0520> WCOU/WAYU was also my first commercial radio job in 1981, so I remember that building well. I was hired when the Wellborne family owned the stations, and did part time news and jocking. I was there when they transferred the music format from the AM to the FM (prior to that the FM was an automated country station). I remember a mentally ill old lady who would walk up and down Lisbon Street, mumbling to herself and smoking cigarettes, who would come into our lobby and set herself down from time to time. I was also the board operator for the Connie Cote Show, done entirely in French. She would just cue me to spin the French-language records by pointing her finger at me, since I didn't speak a word of French. I was there the day she quit and walked over to WLAM after we couldn't ger her remote on the air from the park during the Franco-American Festival. After that debacle, the Program Director, News Director, and myself went to one of the beer tents at the festival and proceeded to get mightily drunk. Man, those were the days. Dan Pierce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 6:48 PM Subject: Obscure radio trivia >A fire on Lisbon Street in Lewiston this week gutted four buildings. At > least three of the four are likely to be taken down. > > One of the buildings was the home of 93.9 WAYU and 1240 WCOU when I worked > there in 1986. It was my first full-time job in radio and my first > full-time job anywhere. > > The station moved to Sabattus Street later that year. The building where > the station was located there was also recently taken down. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > > From me@billoneill.us Fri Dec 22 10:34:05 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:34:05 -0500 Subject: The Air America / WCRB Problem In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0612200159w3d64c87en9a88b022b364d36d@mail.gmail.com> References: <722710.6318.qm@web55313.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <45888E3E.17236.4AA974@localhost> <1fbbbced0612200159w3d64c87en9a88b022b364d36d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <458BFAED.7040908@billoneill.us> Bob Nelson wrote: > I would agree with much of what Barry Cabbage said (I note his email > address includes > "Out of the Business", one of Jerry Williams' sayings (as in, I'm > getting...) Sounds like before he got out of the business he did a lot for the industry and never asked for a dime! I agree with Barry in terms of the dearth of entertainment in radio talk. It has a lot to do with talkers as people begging to be relevant who bought the notion that "doing radio" is easy. Bill O'Neill From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Fri Dec 22 10:48:34 2006 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 07:48:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Voice Guys In-Reply-To: <001301c72558$195689c0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <20061222154834.24493.qmail@web58312.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: > Cutler is on both WEEI and, 40-kHz up the dial, on similarly > formatted WAMG. > I believe he is the voice guy for ESPN nationally as well as for > ESPN's > local affiliate, WAMG. And who knows how many dozens or hundreds of > other > stations and networks nationwide? I have the feeling that he is not > hurting > financially. I've heard that he has complete studio and production > facilities in his house in New York. Cutler only is the national ESPN Radio voice. ESPN Boston has a different voice doing local imaging. The former ESPN Radio late-night weekday host Bob Valvano had Cutler on his show a few years ago. I guess they both grew up in the same area on Long Island. It was weird to hear Cutler talk in a "normal" voice. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From francini@mac.com Fri Dec 22 12:46:19 2006 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:46:19 -0500 Subject: Voice Guys In-Reply-To: <20061222154834.24493.qmail@web58312.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20061222154834.24493.qmail@web58312.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jim Cutler does a whole flock of voice-over work for sports-radio stations around the country. I've heard him in the Bay Area, for example. He's the voice guy for the Buffalo sports-talk station that the Big Show guys have been making fun of over the past few months (because their version of a Whiner Line really stinks compared to the WEEI version. No character, no humor, no personality.) At 7:48 -0800 12/22/06, Sean Smyth wrote: >Dan Strassberg wrote: >> Cutler is on both WEEI and, 40-kHz up the dial, on similarly >> formatted WAMG. >> I believe he is the voice guy for ESPN nationally as well as for >> ESPN's >> local affiliate, WAMG. And who knows how many dozens or hundreds of >> other >> stations and networks nationwide? I have the feeling that he is not >> hurting >> financially. I've heard that he has complete studio and production >> facilities in his house in New York. > >Cutler only is the national ESPN Radio voice. ESPN Boston has a >different voice doing local imaging. > >The former ESPN Radio late-night weekday host Bob Valvano had Cutler on >his show a few years ago. I guess they both grew up in the same area on >Long Island. It was weird to hear Cutler talk in a "normal" voice. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com -- John Francini, francini@mac.com "The journey is more important than the destination-that's part of life. If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always disappointed." -Donald Knuth From lglavin@mail.com Fri Dec 22 13:33:01 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:33:01 -0500 Subject: Bad Timing; WNNW-AM Off The Air Message-ID: <20061222183302.08FFA16427A@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Ooops...bad timing! WNNW-AM 800 COL Lawrence, MA was off-the-air from late in the morning today until after noon. It's a Spanish- language station that just received new competition from the WKXOX/WXKS-AM switch, and by disappearing entirely for a period of time like that has probably caused a number of people to press their 'SEEK' buttons to find another similar outlet. Oh well, at 4:15 pm, AM 1200 and 1430 will become unlistenable for many of them, and if WNNW comes back, even with reduced power* may still be receivable by Spanish-speaking listeners norte de Boston. *assuming they DO power down -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From dwcole@comcast.net Fri Dec 22 13:54:22 2006 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:54:22 -0500 Subject: Obscure radio trivia References: <000001c7255a$7f487d90$e7c105cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <003101c725fa$9822aed0$daf29318@yourw92p4bhlzg> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" >A fire on Lisbon Street in Lewiston this week gutted four buildings. At > least three of the four are likely to be taken down. > > One of the buildings was the home of 93.9 WAYU and 1240 WCOU when I worked > there in 1986. It was my first full-time job in radio and my first > full-time job anywhere. > > The station moved to Sabattus Street later that year. The building where > the station was located there was also recently taken down. > I worked very briefly at WCOU back in late 1974...for a completely insane program director named Tom Starr (yes, THAT Tom Starr). I worked overnites and was told to rewrite stories out of the paper. When I asked when the paper was delivered I was told to go out on the street and take one from a neighboring doorway...in other words, steal it! And when I found out the station would not provide parking in the winter, when the on-street parking ban was iin effect, that sealed the deal. It was the only job I quit in the middle of a shift. It was oddly enjoyable to listen to the Army Hour as I was driving home...then hear the thump, thump as the needle hit the end of the record. Of course, I had called the owner and told him he had about 30 minutes to get a part-timer in, cause I was history. Ah, those were the days :) Dan Cole From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Dec 22 22:20:54 2006 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:20:54 -0500 Subject: Obscure radio trivia In-Reply-To: <003101c725fa$9822aed0$daf29318@yourw92p4bhlzg> Message-ID: <000001c72641$5e513ae0$e7c105cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Dan's quitting story reminds me of when Jeff Dunham left as afternoon host at WAYU in 1986. He had given notice because he planned to follow the Grateful Dead around for the summer. The Station Manager, Paul Villa, was wandering around all afternoon during Jeff's last show, expecting Dunham to pull a stunt on his last day. Jeff was on his best behavior all afternoon. He said goodbye and started his last song. Paul came into the studio, shook Jeff's hand, and told him he was impressed that he was a professional on his last day. Paul then left the studio and Jeff put a chair in front of the door so Paul couldn't get back in. Paul got back to his office just in time to hear the chorus of Jimmy Buffett's Let's Get Drunk (And Screw). Paul came back and pounded on the door, but the song played. I later used it as a farewell song at WAYU and two other stations. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From scott@fybush.com Fri Dec 22 23:27:44 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:27:44 -0500 Subject: Fessenden on public radio Message-ID: <458CB040.4090408@fybush.com> Reginald Fessenden got big play on public radio tonight! All Things Considered had a nice 8-minute piece on the centennial of his (maybe) first broadcast at the end of its first hour, and Marketplace did a story as well, tying Fessenden's early work into the subsequent development of music radio. Here's the NPR story: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6665738 And here's Marketplace: http://marketplace.publicradio.org/shows/2006/12/22/PM200612227.html I wish I could get to Brant Rock for the centennial on Sunday...alas, my schedule won't allow it, but I'll be listening to WATD on the stream, at least. (Are they still planning a noontime special?) s From anthrocoon@myway.com Sat Dec 23 13:09:23 2006 From: anthrocoon@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:09:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr Message-ID: <20061223180923.77A4B7E430@mprdmxin.myway.com> Avi Nelson will be filling in for Howie Carr from Tue. through Friday of next week. Has been described as a libertarian or conservative; I believe he ran for office as a Republican, and I know he started WMFP-TV 62 in Lawrence. He and Jerry Williams were the subjects of the 1987 book "Talk Radio and the American Dream". For some reason my gmail address kept bouncing back my posts to this list so I am trying another email address I have and hope this works --Bob Nelson _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lglavin@mail.com Sat Dec 23 13:54:53 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:54:53 -0500 Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr Message-ID: <20061223185453.B3E161024B@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr >Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:09:23 -0500 (EST) >For some reason my gmail address kept bouncing back my posts to >this list so I am trying another email address I have and hope this >works >--Bob Nelson This happened to me a few months ago. I had been posting through Lycos.com's email service for years; they went down for a few days to re-format and add storage space (more room for spam!) and when they resumed service, MY posts to the B.R.I.G. were bounced. So now I use mail.com. As you may know, Bob Bitner restricts his posts to radio-info.com because apparently the BostonRadio server also has AOL antibodies. -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From lglavin@mail.com Sat Dec 23 13:59:01 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:59:01 -0500 Subject: Reason For WNNW-AM Downtime Message-ID: <20061223185901.A3EA51024F@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> I received on off-list email from a source at Costa-Eagle broadcasting that there is a requirement for stations introducing HD/IBOC technology to undergo testsand presumably proofs-of-performance within 10 days. I don't remember WBZ doing this, but as we all know they have an auxiliary transmitter at a separate site. -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Sat Dec 23 14:19:26 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:19:26 -0500 Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr References: <20061223180923.77A4B7E430@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <006701c726c7$43284b10$6501a8c0@pastor2> I remember Avi Nelson having a talk show of his own in Boston years ago; what station? Was it WHDH? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr > > Avi Nelson will be filling in for Howie Carr from Tue. through Friday of next week. Has been described as a libertarian or conservative; I believe he ran for office as a Republican, and I know he started > WMFP-TV 62 in Lawrence. He and Jerry Williams were the subjects of > the 1987 book "Talk Radio and the American Dream". > > For some reason my gmail address kept bouncing back my posts to this list so I am trying another email address I have and hope this works > > --Bob Nelson > > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com > > From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Sat Dec 23 14:41:26 2006 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:41:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <006701c726c7$43284b10$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <225404.91491.qm@web58302.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Doug Drown wrote: > I remember Avi Nelson having a talk show of his own in Boston years > ago; > what station? Was it WHDH? He was a panelist on the "Five on 5" show Sunday mornings. A quick Google didn't turn up precisely what station he was on. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From anthrocoon@myway.com Sat Dec 23 14:44:14 2006 From: anthrocoon@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:44:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr Message-ID: <20061223194414.40595233DE@mprdmxin.myway.com> Thanks for the info. I have registered an address at mail.com and may start using that one. And yes it's possible that it could be an issue of "HTML-based" and "text-based" emails, and some email providers allow you to choose one or the other. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sat Dec 23 14:49:50 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:49:50 -0500 Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr References: <225404.91491.qm@web58302.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <052801c726cb$9a887840$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > > I remember Avi Nelson having a talk show of his own in Boston years > > ago; > > what station? Was it WHDH? > > He was a panelist on the "Five on 5" show Sunday mornings. A quick > Google didn't turn up precisely what station he was on. If I have my chronology right. (I am getting old).... When WHDH first added talk in the evening (pre-Brudnoy), Avi was the host 8PM-12MD. Avi then had to give up that position to run for the Senate(?) This is when David Brudnoy hit the airwave with his own show. I am thinking this was late 70's. Avi had also been on WITS, WMEX, WMRE (1510AM) at different times. I remember Avi stayed on (a union thing) when they flipped to WMRE (Music of your Life), and was playing music for awhile....I assume in order to keep collecting the union paycheck. But hearing Avi play music was interesting. I was trying to remember who took over the WHDH show after Brudnoy left to go to WRKO. I think it was Hubert Jessup, right? Anyone know who it was after that? Don From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Dec 23 15:09:39 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:09:39 -0500 Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr References: <225404.91491.qm@web58302.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <052801c726cb$9a887840$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <001b01c726ce$4bf7d4c0$19eefea9@satpro4600> I think Avi Nelson was also on the old WEEI 590. He was one of the first people to host two-way telephone talk in Boston. Donna can confirm. Sherm Feller doesn't count because he did not put the caller's side of the the conversation on the air, so Jerry Williams was the first to do two-way telephone-talk in Boston. Others who did it here very early on were Jim Westover (on WEEI), Paul Benzaquin (WEEI), and Fred Gale (WNAC). Gale, despite having a dynamite radio voice, must still hold some sort of record for doing the dullest talk shows (two-way or not) in radio history. Another guy with a dynamite voice but with very good presentation did an afternoon or PM-drive show on the old WNAC 680. The name of the program was Listen! Benzaquin may have co-hosted for a while. Unfortunately, I'm blanking on the name of the gentleman I'm referring to, but if someone posts it, I'm pretty sure I'll say "oh, yeah!" -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don A." To: ; "Doug Drown" ; ; Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr > > > > I remember Avi Nelson having a talk show of his own in Boston years > > > ago; > > > what station? Was it WHDH? > > > > He was a panelist on the "Five on 5" show Sunday mornings. A quick > > Google didn't turn up precisely what station he was on. > > If I have my chronology right. (I am getting old).... > > When WHDH first added talk in the evening (pre-Brudnoy), Avi was the host > 8PM-12MD. > > Avi then had to give up that position to run for the Senate(?) > This is when David Brudnoy hit the airwave with his own show. > I am thinking this was late 70's. > > Avi had also been on WITS, WMEX, WMRE (1510AM) at different times. > > I remember Avi stayed on (a union thing) when they flipped to WMRE (Music of > your Life), and was playing music for awhile....I assume in order to keep > collecting the union paycheck. > > But hearing Avi play music was interesting. > > > I was trying to remember who took over the WHDH show after Brudnoy left to > go to WRKO. > > I think it was Hubert Jessup, right? > > Anyone know who it was after that? > > > Don > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Dec 23 15:49:52 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:49:52 -0500 Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <006701c726c7$43284b10$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <20061223180923.77A4B7E430@mprdmxin.myway.com> <006701c726c7$43284b10$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <20061223204957.C93F3647DD3@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 02:19 PM 12/23/2006, Doug Drown wrote: >I remember Avi Nelson having a talk show of his own in Boston years ago; >what station? Was it WHDH? Avi has actually had quite a media career. Of course, he ran for political office a few times (including running for senate against Ed Brooke), and would periodically leave radio to either run for office or advise Republican candidates. But as for radio, he became nationally known for his vocal opposition to busing. He was on Boston radio (and yes I do believe it was WHDH but I will check)-- during the busing crisis, and became a leader in the anti busing movement. If I recall correctly, 1973 was when he first became a radio talk host. As for other points in his career, he worked at WITS when it was doing talk, and of course, he was also on the the old WEEI when it was owned by Helen and Mike Valerio of Papa Gino's, circa 1983. Nelson owned WMPF (Channel 62) in Lawrence, and if I recall correctly, he was on WRKO several times-- in its early days when it became an all talk station, and then later in the 80s, when he came back there and remained on the air into the early 90s. Avi also did a series of TV debates with Jerry Williams which were billed as "a left and a right" ... I found the listing for them on channel 5 in the summer of 1975; and I found listings for Avi doing a solo TV show on channel 7-- it was a late Sunday night show which he interviewed various newsmakers, and it debuted in late November of 1975. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Dec 23 16:47:17 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr Message-ID: <20061223214722.C9B6D44C03A@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> So I did find the files for Avi Nelson and he first went on the air in June 1973 as a vacation fill-in for Jerry Williams, who was then doing a show on WBZ. Nelson was hired by WHDH radio in August of 1973, and that's where he became known as the conservative voice on various issues, most notably opposition to busing. From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Dec 23 16:50:02 2006 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:50:02 -0500 Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <20061223204957.C93F3647DD3@relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <200612232150.kBNLoQLR017970@rolinin.bostonradio.org> I recall Avi holding down the 7 to 10 p.m. shift in 1991 and 1992 because he used to attack Jerry Brown all the time which infuriated me ... :-) Happy Holidays everyone! Best, Tony Anthony Schinella Station Manager/Program Director WKXL 1450, Concord, N.H. Award-winning news, sports, arts & community conversation Blog: http://politizine.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 3:50 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr As for other points in his career, he worked at WITS when it was doing talk, and of course, he was also on the the old WEEI when it was owned by Helen and Mike Valerio of Papa Gino's, circa 1983. Nelson owned WMPF (Channel 62) in Lawrence, and if I recall correctly, he was on WRKO several times-- in its early days when it became an all talk station, and then later in the 80s, when he came back there and remained on the air into the early 90s. From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Dec 23 15:02:02 2006 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:02:02 -0500 Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr Message-ID: <20061223200202.3D4D41BF2AE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> (TEST POST) Doing a test post here until Basic Editor (mail.com); if this doesn't work I may try the Advanced/HTML one -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Dec 23 17:07:14 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 17:07:14 -0500 Subject: Heywood Vincent Message-ID: <001101c726de$b800bdc0$19eefea9@satpro4600> I remembered the name of the gentleman who did afternoon or PM-drive talk on a program named Listen! on (I think) WNAC (AM) 680: It was Heywood (Haywood?) Vincent. Great pipes; great delivery. Very compelling radio. As I said in my last post, the program may have been co-hosted for part of its existence by Paul Benzaquin. I think this was probably in the '60s, but I am only guessing--except I know that it was many years ago. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 From marklaurence@mac.com Sat Dec 23 20:44:48 2006 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 20:44:48 -0500 Subject: Montreal Gazette on centennial of 1st radio broadcast Message-ID: <6FFCB93E-E854-447E-9C06-78C6416A592B@mac.com> Saturday's Montreal Gazette has a big (most of page 3) article on the 100th anniversary of the first radio broadcast, and the controversy surrounding the claims of inventor Reginald Fessenden. He's from Quebec, the broadcast originated near Boston. The article cites Radio World, recently stirring up doubts about why this momentous event didn't get reported until 1932. Or maybe it was reported in 1928: the Gazette says "two historians have found evidence that precedes the 1932 letter ? though only by four years. ?'As far as we can determine, the first published (their italics) statement concerning the Christmas Eve 1906 broadcast occurred more than two decades later, when Westinghouse vicepresident H.P. Davis spoke at Harvard University in April 1928,? Donna Halper and Christopher Sterling wrote in a paper prepared for the 2006 edition of the Antique Wireless Association Review.'" It's too bad, but the article online is only available to Montreal Gazette subscribers. But there's a shorter CP article viewable here: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC. 20061223.RADIO23/TPStory/National I don't want to quote too much from the copyrighted article, but it reaches a nice conclusion: "The wonder of what he did ? sending voices and music across the empty air, to resound through the headsets of wondering listeners many miles away ? is a piece of magic that recurs every time we turn on a radio today." From revdoug1@verizon.net Sat Dec 23 20:45:03 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 20:45:03 -0500 Subject: Heywood Vincent References: <001101c726de$b800bdc0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <009901c726fd$221a9fa0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Is Paul Benzaquin still living? I remember him on WEEI. I remember Heywood Vincent, too, for that matter. He did have a beautiful voice. I may be wrong, but it sticks in my mind that RKO General transferred him to WOR when WNAC became WRKO. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 5:07 PM Subject: Heywood Vincent > I remembered the name of the gentleman who did afternoon or PM-drive talk on > a program named Listen! on (I think) WNAC (AM) 680: It was Heywood > (Haywood?) Vincent. Great pipes; great delivery. Very compelling radio. As I > said in my last post, the program may have been co-hosted for part of its > existence by Paul Benzaquin. I think this was probably in the '60s, but I am > only guessing--except I know that it was many years ago. > > -- > > Dan Strassberg > dan.strassberg@att.net > Fax: 1-707-215-6367 > > > > > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Dec 23 22:15:21 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:15:21 -0500 Subject: Montreal Gazette on centennial of 1st radio broadcast Message-ID: <20061224031527.1C8EF6425C2@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> The original in the Ottawa paper is longer and has more quotes from me... Also, I can send anyone who wants to see my research, a file copy of the article Chris Sterling and I co-wrote for the AWA Review, which shows pretty conclusively that Fessenden had broadcast voice and music before December 24th; I disagree that the Xmas eve broadcast never occurred-- I believe it did, but everyone in the press thought other things were more important (as I explain in my article, the week he did the two demonstrations, there was a bad snowstorm, as well as Boston being obsessed with "telephone wars"-- two new companies were going after AT&T for the right to operate their companies in Boston, and the media were caught up in the law suit, the debate, the hearings, the attitudes of people about phone company monopolies, etc. Fessenden, a grouchy and very contentious person even in good times, was 40 miles from Boston and the reporters who showed up did so on the 21st, rather than the 34th... From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Dec 23 22:05:23 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:05:23 -0500 Subject: Heywood Vincent In-Reply-To: <009901c726fd$221a9fa0$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <001101c726de$b800bdc0$19eefea9@satpro4600> <009901c726fd$221a9fa0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <20061224030529.B4D4E641C13@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 08:45 PM 12/23/2006, Doug Drown wrote: >Is Paul Benzaquin still living? I remember him on WEEI. As far as I know, he is still alive-- he had some heart problems, if I recall, but he looked great last time I saw him and his wife at their home. I think he's about 80 now. Speaking of health, does anyone know how Garrett is feeling? From scott@fybush.com Sat Dec 23 23:12:35 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:12:35 -0500 Subject: Heywood Vincent In-Reply-To: <20061224030529.B4D4E641C13@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on rolinin.bostonradio.org clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on khavrinen.csail.mit.edu References: <001101c726de$b800bdc0$19eefea9@satpro4600> <009901c726fd$221a9fa0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <20061224030529.B4D4E641C13@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on rolinin.bostonradio.org clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on khavrinen.csail.mit.edu Message-ID: <458DFE33.4020303@fybush.com> Donna Halper wrote: > At 08:45 PM 12/23/2006, Doug Drown wrote: >> Is Paul Benzaquin still living? I remember him on WEEI. > > As far as I know, he is still alive-- he had some heart problems, if I > recall, but he looked great last time I saw him and his wife at their > home. I think he's about 80 now. Speaking of health, does anyone know > how Garrett is feeling? > I suspect Garrett will weigh in on this shortly; I know he's checking e-mail. I talked to him a few days ago, to wish him an early happy birthday, and he was in decent spirits. It will be a fairly long recovery, but it seems to be going well so far, and with any luck we'll all be toasting him at another NERW/b-r-i dinner sometime in the spring... s From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sat Dec 23 23:44:21 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:44:21 -0500 Subject: Heywood Vincent References: <001101c726de$b800bdc0$19eefea9@satpro4600> <009901c726fd$221a9fa0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <04a001c72716$444e62a0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > > I remembered the name of the gentleman who did afternoon or PM-drive talk > on > > a program named Listen! on (I think) WNAC (AM) 680: It was Heywood > > (Haywood?) Vincent. Great pipes; great delivery. Very compelling radio. As > I > > said in my last post, the program may have been co-hosted for part of its > > existence by Paul Benzaquin. I think this was probably in the '60s... Is this how Benzaquin ended up on Channel 7 in the 70's? Was he part of WNAC like Ed Miller who got switched over to the TV side? Benzaquin's TV talk show was "Live and Lively" (He took calls!) Except when he was on vacation, and it was "Taped and Typical". From paul@derrynh.net Sun Dec 24 01:39:29 2006 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 01:39:29 -0500 Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <20061223180923.77A4B7E430@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <004601c72726$43edb1c0$0202a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> I know Avi Neson ran for US Senate in 1976 because that was the first election I was able to vote in after turning 18 (1976 MA GOP Primary). Yes, I voted for Avi.... Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH (then of Randolph MA) -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 1:09 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr Avi Nelson will be filling in for Howie Carr from Tue. through Friday of next week. Has been described as a libertarian or conservative; I believe he ran for office as a Republican, and I know he started WMFP-TV 62 in Lawrence. He and Jerry Williams were the subjects of the 1987 book "Talk Radio and the American Dream". For some reason my gmail address kept bouncing back my posts to this list so I am trying another email address I have and hope this works --Bob Nelson _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From paul@derrynh.net Sun Dec 24 01:44:36 2006 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 01:44:36 -0500 Subject: Heywood Vincent In-Reply-To: <001101c726de$b800bdc0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <004701c72726$fa671a90$0202a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> I (being a little younger...I was not a 680 listener in the NAC days) recall Heywood Vincent doing "Sports Personality Profiles" (genre, not a show name) for CBS in the late 60s early 70s, though I thought the name was Heywood Vincent Hale or some such...same guy? Paul Hopfgarten Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan Strassberg Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 5:07 PM To: Boston Radio Interest Subject: Heywood Vincent I remembered the name of the gentleman who did afternoon or PM-drive talk on a program named Listen! on (I think) WNAC (AM) 680: It was Heywood (Haywood?) Vincent. Great pipes; great delivery. Very compelling radio. As I said in my last post, the program may have been co-hosted for part of its existence by Paul Benzaquin. I think this was probably in the '60s, but I am only guessing--except I know that it was many years ago. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 From wollman@csail.mit.edu Sun Dec 24 05:07:28 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 05:07:28 -0500 Subject: Heywood Vincent In-Reply-To: <20061224030529.B4D4E641C13@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <001101c726de$b800bdc0$19eefea9@satpro4600> <009901c726fd$221a9fa0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <20061224030529.B4D4E641C13@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <17806.20832.394139.714944@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Speaking of health, does anyone know how Garrett is feeling? Garrett is off his pain meds and feeling lousy. He will probably go back to bed soon. -GAWollman From sid@wrko.com Sun Dec 24 09:45:13 2006 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 07:45:13 -0700 Subject: Heywood Vincent Message-ID: >>I (being a little younger...I was not a 680 listener in the NAC days) recall Heywood Vincent doing "Sports Personality Profiles" (genre, not a show name) for CBS in the late 60s early 70s, though I thought the name was Heywood Vincent Hale or some such...same guy?<< You're thinking of the guy with the loud sport jackets who showed up on the CBS Evening News on the weekends doing some rather well-written sports essays: Heywood Hale Broun. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Sun Dec 24 12:34:39 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 12:34:39 -0500 Subject: Heywood Vincent References: Message-ID: <001701c72781$ca7072e0$6501a8c0@pastor2> While we're on the subject of people who used to be on WNAC, wasn't Roy Leonard, who was on WGN and WGN-TV in Chicago for years, a WNAC air personality at one time? I'm thinking he left 'NAC to go to CJAD in Montreal, and wound up in Chicago after that. Am I right? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Schweiger" To: Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 9:45 AM Subject: RE: Heywood Vincent > >>I (being a little younger...I was not a 680 listener in the NAC days) > recall > Heywood Vincent doing "Sports Personality Profiles" (genre, not a show > name) > for CBS in the late 60s early 70s, though I thought the name was Heywood > Vincent Hale or some such...same guy?<< > > You're thinking of the guy with the loud sport jackets who showed up on > the CBS Evening News on the weekends doing some rather well-written > sports essays: Heywood Hale Broun. > > > > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom New England > WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > Boston MA 02135-2040 > Phone: 617-779-5369 > Fax: 617-779-5379 > E-Mail: sid@wrko.com > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Dec 24 13:40:24 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 13:40:24 -0500 Subject: Heywood Vincent In-Reply-To: <001701c72781$ca7072e0$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <001701c72781$ca7072e0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <20061224184029.EE45B44C005@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 12:34 PM 12/24/2006, Doug Drown wrote: >While we're on the subject of people who used to be on WNAC, wasn't Roy >Leonard, who was on WGN and WGN-TV in Chicago for years, a WNAC air >personality at one time? I'm thinking he left 'NAC to go to CJAD in >Montreal, and wound up in Chicago after that. Am I right? Yup. Roy definitely was on WNAC and he did indeed go to Chicago. I have some old newspaper articles about his career there. And Jerry Williams, who came up in a post yesterday, also spent some time working in Chicago radio (and a little TV too). From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Dec 24 16:47:20 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:47:20 -0500 Subject: Fascinating documentary on music radio Message-ID: <000001c727a5$47e62260$19eefea9@dstrassberg> It aired this afternoon at 2:00 PM on WBUR and will air again on WBUR this evening at 8:00PM. Produced by American RadioWorks.org and is also available at their Web site. Traces the history of music radio in the US on this, the 100th anniversary of the first audio broadcast (by Reginald Fessenden). Ties in radio's influence on and influence from major sociological trends in US demographics. Definitely worth a listen! -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Dec 24 16:19:14 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:19:14 -0500 Subject: Heywood Vincent References: <001701c72781$ca7072e0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <003601c727a1$2de44120$19eefea9@satpro4600> I was unaware of Leonard being at CJAD. Possible, though, but if so, he wasn't there for long, because he was at WGN very shortly after he left WNAC. He didn't retire from WGN until maybe four years ago after a very, very long run there. Before WNAC, where he was part of the AM-drive treo of Roy (Leonard), Jim (Dixon), and Gus (Saunders), Leonard was on WHDH (850). His program was the Two and Eight Date, heard from 2:00 to 4:00PM and 8:00 to 10:00PM M-F. Several WHDH announcers did split shifts. I believe Bob Clayton's Boston Ballroom aired from 10:00AM to noon and 4:00 to 6:00PM (more or less mimicking the schedule of Martin Bloch's Make-Believe Ballroom on WNEW (AM) in New York). I think Jess Cain's program ran from 6:00 to 10:00AM and Fred B Cole must have been on from noon to 2:00PM and 6:00 to 8:00PM. IIRC, Norm Nathan was on with Sounds in the Night from 1:00 to 6:00AM. That leaves the question of who was on from 10:00PM to 1:00AM. I don't recall. After WNAC, Saunders also had a very, very long run doing the brokered-time cooking show afternoons on WROL. More than likely, he started the cooking show while 950 still had the WRYT calls and maybe even the WORL calls. After he left WNAC, Dixon bounced around quite a bit, but mostly I remember him on various incarnations of 1150, particularly during its several turns as a country-music station. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: "Sid Schweiger" ; Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: Re: Heywood Vincent > While we're on the subject of people who used to be on WNAC, wasn't Roy > Leonard, who was on WGN and WGN-TV in Chicago for years, a WNAC air > personality at one time? I'm thinking he left 'NAC to go to CJAD in > Montreal, and wound up in Chicago after that. Am I right? > > -Doug > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sid Schweiger" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 9:45 AM > Subject: RE: Heywood Vincent > > > > >>I (being a little younger...I was not a 680 listener in the NAC days) > > recall > > Heywood Vincent doing "Sports Personality Profiles" (genre, not a show > > name) > > for CBS in the late 60s early 70s, though I thought the name was Heywood > > Vincent Hale or some such...same guy?<< > > > > You're thinking of the guy with the loud sport jackets who showed up on > > the CBS Evening News on the weekends doing some rather well-written > > sports essays: Heywood Hale Broun. > > > > > > > > Sid Schweiger > > IT Manager, Entercom New England > > WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM > > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > > Boston MA 02135-2040 > > Phone: 617-779-5369 > > Fax: 617-779-5379 > > E-Mail: sid@wrko.com > > > From scott@fybush.com Sun Dec 24 16:57:35 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:57:35 -0500 Subject: WATD Fessenden special In-Reply-To: <003601c727a1$2de44120$19eefea9@satpro4600> References: <001701c72781$ca7072e0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <003601c727a1$2de44120$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <458EF7CF.8020802@fybush.com> Did anyone record today's Fessenden centennial broadcast on WATD? I meant to tune into the stream, and various distractions here conspired to keep me from doing so until after it was all over... s From michael.beaulieu@gmail.com Sun Dec 24 09:52:06 2006 From: michael.beaulieu@gmail.com (Michael D. Beaulieu) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 09:52:06 -0500 Subject: Heywood Vincent In-Reply-To: <004701c72726$fa671a90$0202a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> References: <004701c72726$fa671a90$0202a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: <458E9416.3010000@admin.umass.edu> You might be thinking of Heywood Hale Broun of CBS sports...handlebar mustache, colorful jackets. Passed away in 2001. Mike Beaulieu Paul Hopfgarten wrote: >I (being a little younger...I was not a 680 listener in the NAC days) recall >Heywood Vincent doing "Sports Personality Profiles" (genre, not a show name) >for CBS in the late 60s early 70s, though I thought the name was Heywood >Vincent Hale or some such...same guy? > >Paul Hopfgarten >Derry NH > >-----Original Message----- >From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of >Dan Strassberg >Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 5:07 PM >To: Boston Radio Interest >Subject: Heywood Vincent > >I remembered the name of the gentleman who did afternoon or PM-drive talk on >a program named Listen! on (I think) WNAC (AM) 680: It was Heywood >(Haywood?) Vincent. Great pipes; great delivery. Very compelling radio. As I >said in my last post, the program may have been co-hosted for part of its >existence by Paul Benzaquin. I think this was probably in the '60s, but I am >only guessing--except I know that it was many years ago. > >-- > >Dan Strassberg >dan.strassberg@att.net >Fax: 1-707-215-6367 > > > > > > > From PaulBCurrier@comcast.net Mon Dec 25 08:24:59 2006 From: PaulBCurrier@comcast.net (Paul B Currier) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 08:24:59 -0500 Subject: Heywood Vincent References: <001701c72781$ca7072e0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <003601c727a1$2de44120$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <001101c72828$14446ce0$123f434b@DG07P241> Hank Forbes was the eventual 7-11 WHDH DJ preceding Norm's 11:30 - 6 shift. There was a half hour of news at 11. This was in the late 50's and 60's when all HDH dj's were on single shifts. For a while in the 60's Hank and Norm swapped with Hank starting at midnight. PBC Cape Cod ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 4:19 PM Subject: Re: Heywood Vincent > I was unaware of Leonard being at CJAD. Possible, though, but if so, he > wasn't there for long, because he was at WGN very shortly after he left > WNAC. He didn't retire from WGN until maybe four years ago after a very, > very long run there. Before WNAC, where he was part of the AM-drive treo of > Roy (Leonard), Jim (Dixon), and Gus (Saunders), Leonard was on WHDH (850). > His program was the Two and Eight Date, heard from 2:00 to 4:00PM and 8:00 > to 10:00PM M-F. Several WHDH announcers did split shifts. I believe Bob > Clayton's Boston Ballroom aired from 10:00AM to noon and 4:00 to 6:00PM > (more or less mimicking the schedule of Martin Bloch's Make-Believe Ballroom > on WNEW (AM) in New York). I think Jess Cain's program ran from 6:00 to > 10:00AM and Fred B Cole must have been on from noon to 2:00PM and 6:00 to > 8:00PM. IIRC, Norm Nathan was on with Sounds in the Night from 1:00 to > 6:00AM. That leaves the question of who was on from 10:00PM to 1:00AM. I > don't recall. > > After WNAC, Saunders also had a very, very long run doing the brokered-time > cooking show afternoons on WROL. More than likely, he started the cooking > show while 950 still had the WRYT calls and maybe even the WORL calls. > > After he left WNAC, Dixon bounced around quite a bit, but mostly I remember > him on various incarnations of 1150, particularly during its several turns > as a country-music station. > > -- > > Dan Strassberg > dan.strassberg@att.net > Fax: 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Drown" > To: "Sid Schweiger" ; > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 12:34 PM > Subject: Re: Heywood Vincent > > > > While we're on the subject of people who used to be on WNAC, wasn't Roy > > Leonard, who was on WGN and WGN-TV in Chicago for years, a WNAC air > > personality at one time? I'm thinking he left 'NAC to go to CJAD in > > Montreal, and wound up in Chicago after that. Am I right? > > > > -Doug > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sid Schweiger" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 9:45 AM > > Subject: RE: Heywood Vincent > > > > > > > >>I (being a little younger...I was not a 680 listener in the NAC days) > > > recall > > > Heywood Vincent doing "Sports Personality Profiles" (genre, not a show > > > name) > > > for CBS in the late 60s early 70s, though I thought the name was Heywood > > > Vincent Hale or some such...same guy?<< > > > > > > You're thinking of the guy with the loud sport jackets who showed up on > > > the CBS Evening News on the weekends doing some rather well-written > > > sports essays: Heywood Hale Broun. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sid Schweiger > > > IT Manager, Entercom New England > > > WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM > > > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > > > Boston MA 02135-2040 > > > Phone: 617-779-5369 > > > Fax: 617-779-5379 > > > E-Mail: sid@wrko.com > > > > > > > > > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Dec 25 23:20:12 2006 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 23:20:12 -0500 Subject: Art Horn Message-ID: <000001c728a5$26cd6ba0$e7c105cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Art Horn is doing the weather tonight on WGME. He worked in Portland many years ago. I think he also worked in Boston at one time. Does anyone know where he has worked recently? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue Dec 26 04:36:03 2006 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 04:36:03 -0500 Subject: Art Horn In-Reply-To: <000001c728a5$26cd6ba0$e7c105cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <000001c728a5$26cd6ba0$e7c105cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: dan wrote: > Art Horn is doing the weather tonight on WGME. He worked in > Portland many > years ago. > > I think he also worked in Boston at one time. > > Does anyone know where he has worked recently? not sure where he's been, but i have to laugh in that he did a "holiday night" newscast - Washington's Birthday, 1982, Wayne Mahar used to fill in for Art for weekends and holidays. Wayne wanted to scoot early, so he told them to re-run the 6pm weather portion and went home. Dave King, then WGAN-TV GM, said "no way - find someone." Art was called and said that, no thank you, he wouldn't come in. so down the hall they came from TV to radio and asked the new kid in the building to do the 11pm weather. the new kid got off the air at 9pm, ran home to put on his (only) suit, and then back for a crash course on TV Weather 101. stand here, point there - monitors to your left and right beside the chromakey wall. all went well during run throughs. so the camera & tech guys thought it would be a hoot if they turned the monitors into the wall so the new kid couldn't see what he was doing, save for the complete reverse image of the teleprompter. looked like Travolta doing his t hing on the dance floor. and one other Art story - that same winter season (April Fool's day, no less), Art was doing the 11pm weather, live, stating the snow had stopped and all would be well. unbeknownst to Art, it hadn't even remotely slowed down - so much so to the point that those of us, including "the new kid," who would have left by 9pm or so could NOT get out of the building, let alone the parking lot. imagine our glee when Art put on his nifty top coat and gloves and was stopped cold by the wall of snow that completely covered the front entrance of Northport Plaza that evening. it was a good laugh to tide us all over as we all grabbed a slab of floor for some sleep. - - Chuck (once the new kid) Igo From rickkelly@gmail.com Tue Dec 26 07:17:28 2006 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 07:17:28 -0500 Subject: Art Horn In-Reply-To: <000001c728a5$26cd6ba0$e7c105cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <000001c728a5$26cd6ba0$e7c105cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <521b7fd10612260417u54308ff4p1d99033007c35c34@mail.gmail.com> On 12/25/06, Daniel Billings wrote: > Art Horn is doing the weather tonight on WGME. He worked in Portland many > years ago. > > I think he also worked in Boston at one time. > > Does anyone know where he has worked recently? For the last I'd say 10 years he was at NBC O+O WVIT in New Britian (Hartford) CT. Rick Kelly northeastairchecks.com From lglavin@mail.com Tue Dec 26 09:30:27 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 09:30:27 -0500 Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr Message-ID: <20061226143027.3DD601158D4@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: radiotony >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: RE: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr >Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:50:02 -0500 >I recall Avi holding down the 7 to 10 p.m. shift in 1991 and 1992 because he >used to attack Jerry Brown all the time which infuriated me ... :-) Happy >Holidays everyone! >Best, >Tony Plus ca change...Jerry Brown is still around; he's recently served as Mayor of Oakland, CA and in a few days will be sworn in as Attorney General of the State of California! -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From hmadjid@gmail.com Tue Dec 26 16:44:24 2006 From: hmadjid@gmail.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:44:24 -0500 Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr Message-ID: Bob Nelson writes: >Avi Nelson will be filling in for Howie Carr from Tue. through Friday of next week. Has been described as a libertarian or conservative; I >believe he ran for office as a Republican, and I know he started >WMFP-TV 62 in Lawrence. He and Jerry Williams were the subjects of >the 1987 book "Talk Radio and the American Dream". Yes Avi Nelson has been active in Republican politics for a while. Around 30 years ago, he ran against Ted Kennedy. As far as local radio or TV is concerned, Avi Nelson - the first I heard anything of him - used to be on WITS 1510 way back when, noontime hours IIRC. IIRC during the mid to late 80s he was a regular on the 5 on 5 TV show. I've got him tuned in right now -- his voice doesn't sound all that great. >For some reason my gmail address kept bouncing back my posts to this list so I am trying another email address I have and hope >this works. Gmail is not a problem on this list. On the formatting tool bar, just above where you write your message, click on the Plain Text link. -- 73 de Hakim (N1ZFF) From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Dec 27 03:13:25 2006 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 03:13:25 -0500 Subject: Boston radio coverage of Pres. Ford's death Message-ID: <20061227081325.1CA991BF2A7@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> I was listening to WTKK tonight about 11:50 pm ("best of Laura Ingraham") when suddenly there was an announcement: a special report from CNN. They joined it mid-sentence and the first bit I caught was something like "moving from the Vice President's house into the White House" and then "...controversial pardon" and I knew then that Jerry Ford had passed. About 5 minutes later, WBZ's Paul Sullivan mentioned it and I believe Steve Leveille did the first couple hours of his show on the subject. Back on WTKK, they stayed with CNN coverage for over an hour, ending at 1 am. WRKO did have Fox News coverage at the top of the hour but otherwise it was a Michael Savage rerun. -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Dec 27 03:39:42 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 03:39:42 -0500 Subject: Boston radio coverage of Pres. Ford's death In-Reply-To: <20061227081325.1CA991BF2A7@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061227081325.1CA991BF2A7@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20061227083901.DF82444C016@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 03:13 AM 12/27/2006, Bob Nelson wrote: >I was listening to WTKK tonight about 11:50 pm ("best of Laura >Ingraham") when suddenly there was an announcement: a special report >from CNN. They joined it mid-sentence and the first bit I caught was >something like "moving from the Vice President's house into the >White House" and then "...controversial pardon" and I >knew then that Jerry Ford had passed. About 5 minutes later, WBZ's >Paul Sullivan mentioned it and I >believe Steve Leveille did the first couple hours of his show on the subject. On TV, ABC Nightline broke in, which was easier for them to do given that they were in news coverage-- CNN did, of course, as did Fox. But NBC stayed with Letterman, although they may have put a crawl on the screen... From hykker@grolen.com Wed Dec 27 09:21:45 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (Steve Ordinetz) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 09:21:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Boston radio coverage of Pres. Ford's death In-Reply-To: <20061227081325.1CA991BF2A7@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061227081325.1CA991BF2A7@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <56092.63.118.166.2.1167229305.squirrel@63.118.166.2> Did any of the music stations do anything? I'd guess not...I recall when Ike died (1969?) WRKO dropped all contesting for a day, went to a more subdued presentation & seemed to focus on the more AC-ish stuff on the current chart. A little different situation though...WRKO's audience at the time likely had at least some memory of Ike's presidency, where to anyone under 40 today Ford was only someone they read about in history class. I feel old. > I was listening to WTKK tonight about 11:50 pm ("best of Laura Ingraham") > when suddenly there was an announcement: a special report > from CNN. They joined it mid-sentence and the first bit I caught was > something like "moving from the Vice President's house into the White > House" and then "...controversial pardon" and I > knew then that Jerry Ford had passed. About 5 minutes later, WBZ's Paul > Sullivan mentioned it and I > believe Steve Leveille did the first couple hours of his show on the > subject. From marklaurence@mac.com Wed Dec 27 09:51:21 2006 From: marklaurence@mac.com (marklaurence@mac.com) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 06:51:21 -0800 Subject: Boston radio coverage of Pres. Ford's death In-Reply-To: <56092.63.118.166.2.1167229305.squirrel@63.118.166.2> References: <20061227081325.1CA991BF2A7@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <56092.63.118.166.2.1167229305.squirrel@63.118.166.2> Message-ID: On Wednesday, December 27, 2006, at 09:24AM, "Steve Ordinetz" wrote: >Did any of the music stations do anything? I'd guess not...I recall when >Ike died (1969?) WRKO dropped all contesting for a day, went to a more >subdued presentation & seemed to focus on the more AC-ish stuff on the >current chart. A little different situation though...WRKO's audience at >the time likely had at least some memory of Ike's presidency, where to >anyone under 40 today Ford was only someone they read about in history >class. I feel old. It was 1969 when Ike died, just 8 years after leaving office. In current affairs terms, that would almost be the equivalent of Bill Clinton dropping dead, which would be sure to cause more of an emotional impact than today's news. Clinton of course is much younger than Eisenhower in 1969, which would add to the shock. But a lot of stations wouldn't be able to change their presentation today because when news breaks at 11:45 PM, there aren't any human beings on the premises. From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Dec 27 11:09:16 2006 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:09:16 -0500 Subject: Boston radio coverage of Pres. Ford's death Message-ID: <20061227160916.764CD1BF2A8@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mark wrote: >>But a lot of stations wouldn't be able to change their presentation today because when news breaks at 11:45 PM, there aren't any human beings on the premises. Indeed. WBZ btw was the only source for the 3 am breaking news of the Danversport explosion; the first TV source was Ch 5 which had a "breaking news" crawl at the bottom of the screen about 3:30 or 3:45 or so, and then all newscasts went into it around 4:45 am approx. Ford left office 30 years ago next month. I was talking with one of my supervisors at work and she said "it seems not that long ago that he was President" and I remarked "time must be flying because it's been about 30 years". I was 12 when Ford took office...by the way, Saturday Night Live debuted in Oct of '75 and Chevy Chase became a household name with his "clumsy Ford" persona. Re-runs of the show may have helped keep Ford (and an unfair portrayal of him, it was said last night) in the public conciousness. btw Ford's press secretary Ron Nessen hosted Saturday Night Live once and, via either film or videotape, they got Gerald Ford to say "Live From New York It's Saturday Night!". Former veep Al Gore would later host an episode of the show, portraying Trent Lott in one sketch (and giving a hearty kiss to Tipper at another point.) -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Dec 27 11:13:44 2006 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:13:44 -0500 Subject: Avi Nelson filling in for Howie Carr Message-ID: <20061227161344.E02B61158CE@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> >>From: "Hakim Madjid" >>Yes Avi Nelson has been active in Republican politics for a while. Around 30 years ago, he ran against Ted Kennedy. Yes, I think that was in '78...when I was 16. >>I've got him tuned in right now -- his voice doesn't sound all that great. A little raspy; not sure if that's due to age or maybe a cold. >>Gmail is not a problem on this list. On the formatting tool bar, just above where you write your message, click on the Plain Text link. That was most likely the problem. For now I am using a similar address via mail.com -- 73 de Hakim (N1ZFF) -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From me@billoneill.us Wed Dec 27 12:24:44 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:24:44 -0500 Subject: Boston radio coverage of Pres. Ford's death In-Reply-To: <20061227160916.764CD1BF2A8@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061227160916.764CD1BF2A8@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4592AC5C.3030006@billoneill.us> Bob Nelson wrote: > ...by the way, Saturday Night Live debuted in > Oct of '75 and Chevy Chase became a household name with > his "clumsy Ford" persona. Re-runs of the show may have > helped keep Ford (and an unfair portrayal of him, it > was said last night) in the public conciousness. Not to forget SNL's send-up of Tom Brokaw putting together the then former president's obit for the file just in case Ford were to pass while Brokaw was on vacation. Dana Carvey tried 3 or 4 takes of "former president, Gerald Ford, has died." The slurring of Carvey's Brokaw was the funny bit and the truth was, most news outlets, while they don't pre-record obits, do have them up to date. Also brings to mind the 'presidents' card game' (forget the source) that Larry Glick used to air. Nixon sneezes and says: Pardon Me. Ford: I already did. Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Dec 27 14:25:21 2006 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 14:25:21 -0500 Subject: Boston radio coverage of Pres. Ford's death Message-ID: <20061227192521.78DBE1158CE@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> >>Also brings to mind the 'presidents' card game' (forget the source) that Larry Glick used to air. Nixon sneezes and says: Pardon Me. Ford: I already did. That was from a Rich Little album called Ronald Reagan Slept Here. I believe the cover was a cartoon by a MAD magazine artist (Mort Drucker, maybe?) showing a huge Ronald Reagan dozing on the White House. -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From me@billoneill.us Wed Dec 27 15:39:54 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:39:54 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? Message-ID: <4592DA1A.6070309@billoneill.us> Listening to WGY (810 Schenectady) today as it was the clearest signal I could get in my car (parked for lunch in Middlebury VT) with the laptop and other interference. Unfortunately, after the 3 p.m. (local!) news, up pops not Hannity, but.... Dr. Laura. And not just for one minute before the oops was de-ooped. We all can imagine that the wrong bird feed was engaged and stuff happens, but how long should it take to correct? It took long enough for me to bounce around to see what other affils were up to. How far off could a big Beantown signal be to reverting to bird-feed, ... er, oh, nevermind ;-) Happy Gnu Year, Bill O'Neill Middlebury, Vermont From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 28 01:06:32 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 01:06:32 -0500 Subject: Boston radio coverage of Pres. Ford's death In-Reply-To: <20061227160916.764CD1BF2A8@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <45931898.25453.88BE41@localhost> On 27 Dec 2006 at 11:09, Bob Nelson wrote: > btw Ford's press secretary Ron Nessen hosted Saturday Night Live > once and, via either film or videotape, they got Gerald Ford to say > "Live From New York It's Saturday Night!". He also said, "I'm Gerald R. Ford, and you're not!" Given the way they were portraying him, I thought Ford was an incredibly good sport to allow his press secretary to guest host and to participate himself. In general, even though I frequently disagreed with his policies, I always thought Ford was a good and honorable man. Choosing him for Vice President may have been Nixon's greatest decision. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Dec 28 00:19:59 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 00:19:59 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? References: <4592DA1A.6070309@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <00d901c72a3f$d271d450$6501a8c0@pastor2> I wonder sometimes about whether Clear Channel has ANY on-site engineers or producers at its stations. One of their talk stations in Maine regularly used to cut into Howie Carr's last hour with a satellite-driven "closed circuit" feed designed to prepare Red Sox affiliates for the evening's game. That was bad enough. What made it worse was that it sometimes would go on for at least a half-hour . . . on a station that wasn't even a Red Sox affiliate! I finally actually called the studio one day (after getting no answer during the broadcast) and the person in management with whom I talked responded, "Gee, THAT's not supposed to happen!" He seemed to have no idea that it already had --- several times. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "boston Radio Interest" Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? > Listening to WGY (810 Schenectady) today as it was the clearest signal I > could get in my car (parked for lunch in Middlebury VT) with the laptop > and other interference. Unfortunately, after the 3 p.m. (local!) news, > up pops not Hannity, but.... Dr. Laura. And not just for one minute > before the oops was de-ooped. > > We all can imagine that the wrong bird feed was engaged and stuff > happens, but how long should it take to correct? It took long enough > for me to bounce around to see what other affils were up to. How far > off could a big Beantown signal be to reverting to bird-feed, ... er, > oh, nevermind ;-) > > Happy Gnu Year, > > Bill O'Neill > Middlebury, Vermont > From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Dec 28 02:53:05 2006 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 02:53:05 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? Message-ID: <20061228075305.8D9951BF2BF@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> WTKK in Boston occasionally would have their CNN newscast at 10 pm and then delayed Laura Ingraham (or, before, delayed Sean Hannity) would start--along with CNN's feed of actualities, at the same time. Usually someone would catch it after awhile. A few times, the wrong show would be aired (Kim Kommando's computer show at one point during that slot) When Jay Severin started his national show last January, the start of the first show (on WTKK) was plagued by such glitches as well. -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Dec 28 03:48:25 2006 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 03:48:25 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre's retirement from WBZ... Message-ID: <20061228084825.F0BF747809B@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> He won't be leaving radio/voiceover work entirely but he's leaving the WBZ morning shift (and he did an interview with Steve Leveille on 'BZ the other night; rebroadcast last night) from today's Herald http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=174179 >>The station?s morning team plans to don tuxedos and formal wear tomorrow as they say farewell to the veteran anchorman. There will be plenty of on-air tributes and a live video Webcast of LaPierre?s last newscast. (He'll be retired from 'BZ but who knows, might do an occasional on-air bit and he's expressed doing VO work: audiobooks, commercials...) -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From hykker@grolen.com Thu Dec 28 09:12:39 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:12:39 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre's retirement from WBZ... In-Reply-To: <20061228084825.F0BF747809B@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061228084825.F0BF747809B@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061228091057.01ae8380@grolen.com> Bob Nelson wrote: >(He'll be retired from 'BZ but who knows, might do an occasional >on-air bit and he's expressed doing VO >work: audiobooks, commercials...) Didn't Dave Maynard continue to do some feature reporting for several years after his retirement? Gary's not that old...can't see him being ready for the shuffleboard court quite yet. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/598 - Release Date: 12/22/2006 From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Dec 28 09:19:28 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:19:28 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre's retirement from WBZ... In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20061228091057.01ae8380@grolen.com> References: <20061228084825.F0BF747809B@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20061228091057.01ae8380@grolen.com> Message-ID: <4593D270.2010104@ttlc.net> SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Bob Nelson wrote: > >> (He'll be retired from 'BZ but who knows, might do an occasional >> on-air bit and he's expressed doing VO >> work: audiobooks, commercials...) > > > Didn't Dave Maynard continue to do some feature reporting for several > years after his retirement? Gary's not that old...can't see him being > ready for the shuffleboard court quite yet. > > Perhaps Gary will represent WBZ - Reporting Live From Florida! - for the upcoming '08 Presidential Election debacle. From hykker@grolen.com Thu Dec 28 09:10:18 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:10:18 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? In-Reply-To: <00d901c72a3f$d271d450$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <4592DA1A.6070309@billoneill.us> <00d901c72a3f$d271d450$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061228085952.01a8ac58@grolen.com> Doug Drown wrote: > One of their talk stations in Maine regularly >used to cut into Howie Carr's last hour with a satellite-driven "closed >circuit" feed designed to prepare Red Sox affiliates for the evening's game. >That was bad enough. What made it worse was that it sometimes would go on >for at least a half-hour . . . on a station that wasn't even a Red Sox >affiliate! At one point, Howie Carr & the Sox shared a satellite channel...when there was a conflict Howie's show got bumped to another channel (though they may have also simulcast Howie on his regular channel until game time). Apparently the Programming dept at the station in question never got the memo, or never acted on it. I don't think they're on the same channel anymore though. Alas...the real solution here is for someone in Programming to actually listen to their station...Engineering can't fix a problem if they don't know one exists. A silence sense isn't much use when there is audio, (albeit wrong audio) on the air. The last station I worked at that carried the Sox ended up using board ops for the games because WEEI screwed up the automation portion so consistently. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/598 - Release Date: 12/22/2006 From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Dec 28 11:18:32 2006 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:18:32 -0500 Subject: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans Message-ID: <20061228161833.0B0431BF23B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2006/12/28/ringing_in_2007_with_favorites_requests/ WXRV 92.5 counting down its top 92.5 requests; no idea what the half-song will be. All request on Mike 93.7 but still no DJs. Barry Scott _8-mid._ on WODS, while WMBR has the annual Cheese Patrol ("other songs that maybe should have stayed forgotten") Not mentioned in article but Washington DC's lampooners the Capitol Steps do their latest version of Politics Takes A Holiday on Dec 31 at 10 pm on WBUR. -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Thu Dec 28 12:31:08 2006 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:31:08 -0500 Subject: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans References: <20061228161833.0B0431BF23B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <003201c72aa5$f6723a00$59904c0c@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Nelson To: BostonRadio Mailing List Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans > http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2006/12/28/ringing_in_2007_with_favorit es_requests/ > > WXRV 92.5 counting down its top 92.5 requests; no idea what the half-song will be. If it were an oldies station and not an AAA, I'd nominate Maurice Williams' "Stay" or the Box Tops' "The Letter." Howard From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Dec 28 12:34:45 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:34:45 -0500 Subject: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans In-Reply-To: <20061228161833.0B0431BF23B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061228161833.0B0431BF23B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: At 11:18 AM -0500 12/28/06, Bob Nelson wrote: > >Not mentioned in article but Washington DC's lampooners the Capitol >Steps do their latest version of >Politics Takes A Holiday on Dec 31 at 10 pm on WBUR. There's also usually a live Jazz special from locations across the country on NPR on New Year's Eve. In some years both WBUR and WGBH have carried it. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Thu Dec 28 12:29:43 2006 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:29:43 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? References: <4592DA1A.6070309@billoneill.us> <00d901c72a3f$d271d450$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <002d01c72aa5$c3d5fd20$59904c0c@oemcomputer> I remember WHYN Springfield running a looped rainout announcement starting at 12:55 one March Sunday afternoon. A spring training game had been canceled and the announcement told the affiliates that it would not be rescheduled. It ended with a phone number for station personnel to call for more information. This tape ran right through the top of the hour, finally ending around 1:05, when regular bird-feed weekend talk programming resumed. Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Drown To: Bill O'Neill ; boston Radio Interest Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 12:19 AM Subject: Re: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? > I wonder sometimes about whether Clear Channel has ANY on-site engineers or > producers at its stations. One of their talk stations in Maine regularly > used to cut into Howie Carr's last hour with a satellite-driven "closed > circuit" feed designed to prepare Red Sox affiliates for the evening's game. > That was bad enough. What made it worse was that it sometimes would go on > for at least a half-hour . . . on a station that wasn't even a Red Sox > affiliate! I finally actually called the studio one day (after getting no > answer during the broadcast) and the person in management with whom I talked > responded, "Gee, THAT's not supposed to happen!" He seemed to have no idea > that it already had --- several times. > > -Doug From lglavin@mail.com Thu Dec 28 13:19:57 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:19:57 -0500 Subject: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans Message-ID: <20061228181958.109111CE304@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Howard Glazer" >To: "Bob Nelson" , "BostonRadio Mailing List" >Subject: Re: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans >Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:31:08 -0500 >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bob Nelson >To: BostonRadio Mailing List >Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:18 AM >Subject: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans > > WXRV 92.5 counting down its top 92.5 requests; no idea what the half-song will be. How about Randy Newman's "Short People"? (If WCRB were to air the 99-and-a-half favorite classics, the last work would be Schubert's "Unfinished Symphony"; -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From rickkelly@gmail.com Thu Dec 28 10:36:08 2006 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:36:08 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20061228085952.01a8ac58@grolen.com> References: <4592DA1A.6070309@billoneill.us> <00d901c72a3f$d271d450$6501a8c0@pastor2> <7.0.1.0.0.20061228085952.01a8ac58@grolen.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd10612280736k52419832ubfaec0af33b53511@mail.gmail.com> On 12/28/06, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Alas...the real solution here is for someone in Programming to > actually listen to their station...Engineering can't fix a problem if > they don't know one exists. I wonder if anyone listens sometimes... I know that here in Springfield, MA WMAS-AM has very low level of modulation... I'd guess about 30%... and this has been going on for a week or so. this may be preferable to the unusually high and distrorted modulation they were putting out just prior though. No one is apparently listening. Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Dec 28 14:09:55 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:09:55 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? References: <4592DA1A.6070309@billoneill.us> <00d901c72a3f$d271d450$6501a8c0@pastor2> <7.0.1.0.0.20061228085952.01a8ac58@grolen.com> <521b7fd10612280736k52419832ubfaec0af33b53511@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010701c72ab3$c3ad3710$6501a8c0@pastor2> Here in Maine, one of Clear Channel's stations, WIGY 97.5 in Madison (sports format) frequently has an atrocious sound quality that makes it sound like it's broadcasting from inside a galvanized trash can or something. I've asked myself the same question: Does anybody listen to this? It's hard to believe this company has such a "Why bother" attitude about so many of its smaller stations. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Kelly" To: "SteveOrdinetz" Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:36 AM Subject: Re: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? > On 12/28/06, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > > > Alas...the real solution here is for someone in Programming to > > actually listen to their station...Engineering can't fix a problem if > > they don't know one exists. > > I wonder if anyone listens sometimes... I know that here in > Springfield, MA WMAS-AM has very low level of modulation... I'd guess > about 30%... and this has been going on for a week or so. this may be > preferable to the unusually high and distrorted modulation they were > putting out just prior though. No one is apparently listening. > > Rick Kelly > www.northeastairchecks.com > From me@billoneill.us Thu Dec 28 14:13:01 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:13:01 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? In-Reply-To: <010701c72ab3$c3ad3710$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <4592DA1A.6070309@billoneill.us> <00d901c72a3f$d271d450$6501a8c0@pastor2> <7.0.1.0.0.20061228085952.01a8ac58@grolen.com> <521b7fd10612280736k52419832ubfaec0af33b53511@mail.gmail.com> <010701c72ab3$c3ad3710$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <4594173D.5000307@billoneill.us> Doug Drown wrote: > I've > asked myself the same question: Does anybody listen to this? It's hard to > believe this company has such a "Why bother" attitude about so many of its > smaller stations. The seven people listening to the station are likely in the station building. With program line feeding the house speakers. And in the car they listen to 8 tracks. Am I close? 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I think that would require playing approximately 2-1/2 times the number of selections in their (apparently) never-changing weekly rotation. As I said in a previous communication, unlike Mr G, I don't find fault with WCRB's non-intellectually-challenging (AKA dumbed-down) genre of classical music. In fact, I have grown rather fond of it. What I do object to, though, is the incredibly limited selection from this genre. I believe that WCRB could quintuple the number of cuts in frequent rotation without even getting close to the boundaries of tried-and-true classical concert favorites (old war-horses). I suspect that if they did so, TSL would increase significantly. It's not as if I'm asking for anything adventurous or anything that the audience isn't familiar with. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Howard Glazer" ; "Bob Nelson" ; "BostonRadio Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: Re: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Howard Glazer" > >To: "Bob Nelson" , "BostonRadio Mailing List" > >Subject: Re: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans > >Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:31:08 -0500 > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bob Nelson > >To: BostonRadio Mailing List > >Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:18 AM > >Subject: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans > > > > > WXRV 92.5 counting down its top 92.5 requests; no idea what the half-song > will be. > > How about Randy Newman's "Short People"? > > (If WCRB were to air the 99-and-a-half favorite classics, > the last work would be Schubert's "Unfinished Symphony"; > > > > > -- > ___________________________________________________ > Search for products and services at: > http://search.mail.com > > From markwats@comcast.net Thu Dec 28 16:26:16 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:26:16 -0500 Subject: WLLH Lowell Transmitter Off The Air 10 Days Now Message-ID: <003801c72ac6$cf9afa40$9447da18@Mark> I first noticed the WLLH Lowell transmitter off the air on the afternoon of Monday Dec.18th. 10 days later it is still off the air as of the time of this posting (4:24 PM). The Lawrence transmitter covers Lowell with a usable signal by day, but by night it's buried by the other unlistenable 1400 signals from afar. I would guess maybe there's a major problem with the transmitter, and no spare unit in the shack. Mark Watson From lglavin@mail.com Thu Dec 28 15:58:13 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:58:13 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? Message-ID: <20061228205813.96BDA1158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Kelly" To: SteveOrdinetz Subject: Re: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:36:08 -0500 >On 12/28/06, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Alas...the real solution here is for someone in Programming to > actually listen to their station...Engineering can't fix a problem if > they don't know one exists. >I wonder if anyone listens sometimes... I know that here in >Springfield, MA WMAS-AM has very low level of modulation... I'd guess >about 30%... and this has been going on for a week or so. this may be >preferable to the unusually high and distrorted modulation they were >putting out just prior though. No one is apparently listening. >Rick Kelly >www.northeastairchecks.com I sort of hate to bring up this issue before people who in the past have posted to this board, have met with BRIGGers at casual eateries, and may be stalking still...but do you think anyone is listening to WNSH-AM 1570 in Beverly or WBIX-1060 in Natick? How about WGAM-AM 900 in Nashwah (that's the way the AM 900 jingle pronounced it when it was WMVU; the Lowell, Mass Chamber of Commerce ran ads on various stations that utilized the jingle "There's a lot to like about Loal.") that airs bird-fed sports talk filled with chatter about non-Boston area teams? -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From lglavin@mail.com Thu Dec 28 17:00:41 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:00:41 -0500 Subject: WLLH Lowell Transmitter Off The Air 10 Days Now Message-ID: <20061228220042.CBF741158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Watson" >To: "Boston Radio" >Subject: WLLH Lowell Transmitter Off The Air 10 Days Now >Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:26:16 -0500 >I first noticed the WLLH Lowell transmitter off the air on the >afternoon of Monday Dec.18th. 10 days later it is still off the air >as of the time of this posting (4:24 PM). The Lawrence transmitter >covers Lowell with a usable signal by day, but by night it's buried >by the other unlistenable 1400 signals from afar. I would guess >maybe there's a major problem with the transmitter, and no spare >unit in the shack. This is at least the third outage of WLLH-AM's Lowell transmitter under two owners; and during the summer of 2005, it lasted for weeks (this was during the Spanish-language WLLH era, pre- sporstalk). It's my observation that the WLLH transmitter in Lawrence is not at full power because on a few occasions, it was subject to interference from overhead transmission lines and faded out under bridges as close in as parts of Salem, NH and Andover, Mass. I'm pretty sure that sometime back, WLLH/Lawrence was strong enough to overcome such interferers. But you're in Lowell, and are probably correct that the Lawrence stick is covering that city at least during the daylight hours. Mark Watson -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From lglavin@mail.com Thu Dec 28 15:49:53 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:49:53 -0500 Subject: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans Message-ID: <20061228204953.64D241158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan Strassberg" >To: "Laurence Glavin" >Subject: Re: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans >Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:19:10 -0500 >99-1/2 favorites??? I think that would require playing approximately 2-1/2 >times the number of selections in their (apparently) never-changing weekly >rotation. As I said in a previous communication, unlike Mr G, I don't find >fault with WCRB's non-intellectually-challenging (AKA dumbed-down) genre of >classical music. In fact, I have grown rather fond of it. What I do object >to, though, is the incredibly limited selection from this genre. I believe >that WCRB could quintuple the number of cuts in frequent rotation without >even getting close to the boundaries of tried-and-true classical concert >favorites (old war-horses). I suspect that if they did so, TSL would >increase significantly. It's not as if I'm asking for anything adventurous >or anything that the audience isn't familiar with. Without getting into a flaming match that Dan would undoubtedly lose, I mentioned this possibility because acoording to the non-presidential-assassin-wannabe David Hinckley, radio writer for the NY Daily Gnus, WQXR is doing exactly what I described. Under the evil Mario Mazza, WCRB occasionally had essential classic weekends that expanded their repertoire by exactly one work: Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, a piece almost never found in regular rotation for various reasons. Since www.wcrb'com's website is STILL under construction, nobody knows if the current "management" has such plans for FM channel 258. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From rickkelly@gmail.com Thu Dec 28 18:57:09 2006 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:57:09 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? In-Reply-To: <4594173D.5000307@billoneill.us> References: <4592DA1A.6070309@billoneill.us> <00d901c72a3f$d271d450$6501a8c0@pastor2> <7.0.1.0.0.20061228085952.01a8ac58@grolen.com> <521b7fd10612280736k52419832ubfaec0af33b53511@mail.gmail.com> <010701c72ab3$c3ad3710$6501a8c0@pastor2> <4594173D.5000307@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <521b7fd10612281557j186128den2f90959e28767548@mail.gmail.com> On 12/28/06, Bill O'Neill wrote: > The seven people listening to the station are likely in the station > building. With program line feeding the house speakers. And in the car > they listen to 8 tracks. Am I close? Or worse... in their car, they are listening to Sirius... at home, to their IPod. -- -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Dec 28 19:34:18 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:34:18 -0500 Subject: WLLH Lowell Transmitter Off The Air 10 Days Now In-Reply-To: <003801c72ac6$cf9afa40$9447da18@Mark> References: <003801c72ac6$cf9afa40$9447da18@Mark> Message-ID: <4594628A.4000502@ttlc.net> WLLH, Lawrence's Transmitter IS the spare for WLLH, Lowell Mark Watson wrote: > I first noticed the WLLH Lowell transmitter off the air on the > afternoon of Monday Dec.18th. 10 days later it is still off the air as > of the time of this posting (4:24 PM). The Lawrence transmitter covers > Lowell with a usable signal by day, but by night it's buried by the > other unlistenable 1400 signals from afar. I would guess maybe there's a > major problem with the transmitter, and no spare unit in the shack. > > Mark Watson > > > From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Dec 28 20:32:29 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:32:29 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? In-Reply-To: <00d901c72a3f$d271d450$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <4592DA1A.6070309@billoneill.us> <00d901c72a3f$d271d450$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <4594702D.6040804@ttlc.net> I truly believe that far too many people in Radio today consider it "just a job" and many of those in management consider a radio station just a "way to make money" not an endeavor to bring entertainment or any kind of service to people - just a machine that makes money. Quality is not a concern, it simply boils down to: "Does my income exceed my outgo or is my upkeep my downfall?" Very, very discouraging to employees with a passion for radio and the desire to "do a good job." And, if you view radio that way, you might as well be selling dirt. Reminds me of the "xeroxed a million times" pictorial joke featuring Charlie Brown (of Peanuts fame) that was posted where I used to work (Wang Labs) just a few years before they imploded. It said "Trying hard to do a good job here is like peeing your pants in a dark suit. It may give you a warm fuzzy feeling, but nobody else notices." Doug Drown wrote: > I wonder sometimes about whether Clear Channel has ANY on-site engineers or > producers at its stations. One of their talk stations in Maine regularly > used to cut into Howie Carr's last hour with a satellite-driven "closed > circuit" feed designed to prepare Red Sox affiliates for the evening's game. > That was bad enough. What made it worse was that it sometimes would go on > for at least a half-hour . . . on a station that wasn't even a Red Sox > affiliate! I finally actually called the studio one day (after getting no > answer during the broadcast) and the person in management with whom I talked > responded, "Gee, THAT's not supposed to happen!" He seemed to have no idea > that it already had --- several times. > > -Doug From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Dec 28 20:55:22 2006 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:55:22 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? In-Reply-To: <010701c72ab3$c3ad3710$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <000201c72aec$699ffe90$e7c105cf@yourm3vezyx8af> It is not just the big guys that have these problems. JJ Jeffrey's Big Jab sports station is broadcast on three stations, including AM 900 out of Brunswick. 95.5 and AM 1440 are the main stations and the Brunswick feed is an after thought. From time to time, the station is unlistenable. I'm not sure how they feed the audio to the station but something happens that makes the whole station sound like you have slightly tuned out of the station. One time it went on for days. I sent an e-mail. It was fixed the next day. > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Drown > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:10 PM > > Here in Maine, one of Clear Channel's stations, WIGY 97.5 in Madison > (sports format) frequently has an atrocious sound quality that makes it > sound like it's broadcasting from inside a galvanized trash can or > something. I've asked myself the same question: Does anybody listen to > this? It's hard tobelieve this company has such a "Why bother" attitude > about so many of its smaller stations. From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Dec 28 22:40:37 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:40:37 -0500 Subject: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans In-Reply-To: <20061228181958.109111CE304@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <459447E5.25332.25E45E@localhost> On 28 Dec 2006 at 13:19, Laurence Glavin wrote: > (If WCRB were to air the 99-and-a-half favorite classics, > the last work would be Schubert's "Unfinished Symphony"; Or possibly Beethoven's 10th Symphony, which some music scholar discovered in the mid-1980s. There's only one movement. Come to think of it, Shubert's has two movements, so that's closer to half a symphony. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Dec 29 00:06:54 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:06:54 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? In-Reply-To: <010701c72ab3$c3ad3710$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <4592DA1A.6070309@billoneill.us> <00d901c72a3f$d271d450$6501a8c0@pastor2> <7.0.1.0.0.20061228085952.01a8ac58@grolen.com> <521b7fd10612280736k52419832ubfaec0af33b53511@mail.gmail.com> <010701c72ab3$c3ad3710$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: At 2:09 PM -0500 12/28/06, Doug Drown wrote: >Here in Maine, one of Clear Channel's stations, WIGY 97.5 in Madison (sports >format) frequently has an atrocious sound quality that makes it sound like >it's broadcasting from inside a galvanized trash can or something. I've >asked myself the same question: Does anybody listen to this? It's hard to >believe this company has such a "Why bother" attitude about so many of its >smaller stations. They probably have one person running a number of stations from the same workstation. They probably only listen to the one they consider their main station, and for the others all they are doing is looking at an automation screen once in a while. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Dec 29 00:53:03 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:53:03 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? Message-ID: <26089100.1167371583797.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > From: "Laurence Glavin" > CC: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > To: "Rick Kelly" , SteveOrdinetz > > Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:58:13 -0500 > Subject: Re: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? > > ...but do you think anyone is listening to > WNSH-AM 1570 in Beverly or WBIX-1060 in Natick? > How about WGAM-AM 900 in Nashwah I don't have access to the latest full ratings, but in last winters (2006) Boston book, WBIX pulled a 0.1 in the 12+ weekdays from morning through mid-day. This is lower than is published on the public websites which don't list below 0.4 for the Boston market, but there are some people listening. WBIX dropped off the scale after mid-afternoon, perhaps due to lowering to night power and/or less people interested in listening to business news in the evening. WNSH and WGAM didn't show at all though I don't know if WGAM may show up in southern NH books. EP From hishaun@hotmail.com Thu Dec 28 16:47:27 2006 From: hishaun@hotmail.com (Shaun Hayes) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:47:27 -0500 Subject: Avi Nelson's Senate run In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Hakim Madjid" wrote: >Yes Avi Nelson has been active in Republican politics for a while. >Around 30 years ago, he ran against Ted Kennedy. Bob Nelson responded: >Yes, I think that was in '78...when I was 16. '78 wasn't a Kennedy election year. Nelson ran against Sen. Brooke, too 'liberal' for conseratives, in the GOP primary. Brooke won, but after being knifed in his own party, went on to lose to Paul Tsongas in the general election. Brooke was the kind of candidate who used to win for Republicans in this state before the Nelson types drove them all away. Most memorable Nelson campaign trivia: He had a dog named Phydeaux. _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song.? Get a customized station.? Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Dec 29 12:01:12 2006 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:01:12 -0500 Subject: Avi Nelson's Senate run Message-ID: <20061229170112.1EB751CE304@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> >>'78 wasn't a Kennedy election year. Nelson ran against Sen. Brooke, too 'liberal' for conseratives, in the GOP primary. Yes, now I remember. In '78 I was only 16 but I did kind of follow the news and was slightly aware of him. He did say on the air that he had run in the primary that year...a caller to him on WRKO ended with, "Well, thanks for your run against Tsongas" and Avi corrected him, saying that actually he DIDN'T run against Tsongas, he ran against Brooke in the primary. Interesting about Nelson's dog's name. It has been mentioned btw that years ago both parties had liberal and conservative wings. I am actually unenrolled but the majority of my opinions are conservative, and thus people have said, "You're a Republican". No, I was a Democrat and am now unenrolled... -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From lglavin@mail.com Fri Dec 29 12:45:02 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:45:02 -0500 Subject: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans Message-ID: <20061229174502.9CFB01F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: "Howard Glazer" , "Bob Nelson" , "BostonRadio Mailing List" , "Laurence Glavin" >Subject: Re: Globe: local radio's New Yrs Eve plans >Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:40:37 -0500 >On 28 Dec 2006 at 13:19, Laurence Glavin wrote: > (If WCRB were to air the 99-and-a-half favorite classics, > the last work would be Schubert's "Unfinished Symphony"; >Or possibly Beethoven's 10th Symphony, which some music scholar >discovered in the mid-1980s. There's only one movement. >Come to think of it, Shubert's has two movements, so that's closer to >half a symphony. There are several unfinished symphonies and a number of unfinished operas. Bruckner and Borodin left somewhat-orchestrated unfinished symphonies and Mahler left sketches for a 10th symphony; Offenbach's "Tales of Hoffman", Mussorgsky's "Boris Goudonov" and Puccini's "Turandot" were completed by others. Since holiday pahties are in the offing, consider this some possible chit-chat material (I'm always full of chit-chat). -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From markwats@comcast.net Fri Dec 29 15:23:03 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:23:03 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ Message-ID: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark> This morning at 9:20 AM, WBZ morning news anchor Gary LaPierre closed his microphone for the last time, wrapping up his 42 year run at 1170 Soldiers Field Road. It was not a typical Friday in the WBZ studios, as most of the morning was devoted to guests calling in to congratulate Gary, such as retired WBZ personality Dave Maynard, Governor Romney, and former Governor Dukakis, along with recorded greetings from Charles Laquidera, Dale Dorman, and Tom Bergeron. Plus, we heard a Jess Cain bit from the past with Cain impersonating Mel Brooks poking fun at Gary during one of his WHDH radio morning shows. Here's a link to an article on the Boston Globe website about Gary LaPierre's final day on WBZ: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/city_region/breaking_news/2006/12/gary_lapierre_g.html Mark Watson From scott@fybush.com Fri Dec 29 15:55:00 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:55:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ In-Reply-To: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark> References: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark> Message-ID: <39118.66.195.169.98.1167425700.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> > This morning at 9:20 AM, WBZ morning news anchor Gary LaPierre closed > his > microphone for the last time, wrapping up his 42 year run at 1170 Soldiers > Field Road. It was not a typical Friday in the WBZ studios, as most of the > morning was devoted to guests calling in to congratulate Gary, such as > retired WBZ personality Dave Maynard, Governor Romney, and former Governor > Dukakis, along with recorded greetings from Charles Laquidera, Dale > Dorman, > and Tom Bergeron. Plus, we heard a Jess Cain bit from the past with Cain > impersonating Mel Brooks poking fun at Gary during one of his WHDH radio > morning shows. I'm deeply regretting not dropping everything and driving east to be there for the big moment. The video stream on BZ's web site was a nice consolation, at least...it was good to see some faces that haven't graced the corridors of 1170 Soldiers Field Road in a while, like Jay McQuaide and Carol Lanigan. Speaking of the corridors, I've just received (thank you, Peter Casey) a photo of Gary and Peg leaving the building at the end of the morning. Anyone who's been in the building since the renovation knows the main corridor that leads back from the lobby past TV master control to the newsroom - it was packed solid with what looked like every person in the building, all saluting Gary at the conclusion of one hell of a career. I thought I'd managed to get all the tears out while listening to Gary's farewell this morning, but no - turns out there were still a few left! (The picture will be in Monday's NERW.) It's still pretty much impossible for me to imagine that the next big story to hit New England won't have Gary's voice announcing and explaining it on 1030. I got the impression, in a very brief phone conversation with Gary very early this morning, that he can't quite imagine it yet, either. I'm pretty sure we haven't heard the last from "the boy from Shelburne Falls" just yet... s From markwats@comcast.net Fri Dec 29 16:05:47 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:05:47 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ References: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark> <39118.66.195.169.98.1167425700.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> Message-ID: <009f01c72b8d$1d6722f0$9447da18@Mark> Scott Fybush wrote: > It's still pretty much impossible for me to imagine that the next big > story to hit New England won't have Gary's voice announcing and explaining > it on 1030. I got the impression, in a very brief phone conversation with > Gary very early this morning, that he can't quite imagine it yet, either. > > I'm pretty sure we haven't heard the last from "the boy from Shelburne > Falls" just yet... Scott, I have to agree with you there. Judging by the comments from many of those who called in or were in studio, I don't think Gary knows what to do next, but let's hope that he can adjust his body clock to sleep past 3AM!! I One of the best lines of the day came from Dave Maynard, when Gary asked him for advice on what to do after he walks out the door to retirement, Dave replied: "Go out, get a palm tree and sit under it". Mark Watson From Joe@attorneyross.com Fri Dec 29 16:51:58 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:51:58 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ In-Reply-To: <39118.66.195.169.98.1167425700.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> References: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark> Message-ID: <459547AE.13166.1734CD@localhost> On 29 Dec 2006 Scott Fybush wrote: > It's still pretty much impossible for me to imagine that the next big > story to hit New England won't have Gary's voice announcing and > explaining it on 1030. I got the impression, in a very brief phone > conversation with Gary very early this morning, that he can't quite > imagine it yet, either. Well, I'm still not used to weather reports without Don Kent and morning news without Jack Chase. Or New Years Eve without Guy Lombardo. Or the Boston Pops without Arthur Fiedler. For that matter, it seems to me that Bob Hope should be in Iraq entertaining the troops. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Dec 30 03:20:09 2006 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:20:09 -0500 Subject: Sports trumps Saddam news... Message-ID: <20061230082009.456611024B@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> How news of Saddam's execution was covered locally: --WTKK started a delayed version of Laura Ingraham, with host Tammy Bruce, but she barely finished introducing herself when the CNN News feed kicked in with details. And WTKK stayed with it for just over 3 hours! They had some good info via CNN, interviews, etc. Just the feed from the main CNN channel. Interestinly enough, the post office where I work has one TV, which is always set to CNN Headline News...and outside of a TOH update on Saddam at 11 pm, they were giving you Scott Peterson stuff on Nancy Grace, then the always important Showbiz Tonight. Saddam who? --WRKO, too busy with dribble-dribble Celtics basketball, though I think they got into it via Coast to Coast (with a fill in) at 1 am --WBZ too busy with shot--score!!! Bruins hockey, but Jordan Rich came on about 11:35 pm or so with a slightly extended show. --WBUR had coverage via BBC but I was mostly listening to 96.9 -- ___________________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Dec 30 03:51:51 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:51:51 -0500 Subject: Sports trumps Saddam news... In-Reply-To: <20061230082009.456611024B@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061230082009.456611024B@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20061230084952.65126C0C9@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> TV was the same as before-- CBS used to really cover this stuff, but they just waited for the 11pm News on channel 4 and let it get covered there. Then back into regular programming. ABC did the same-- except they had the advantage of not only Channel 5's 11pm news but then Nightline, for another half hour. Channel 7 did the same as channel 4, although they may have had a crawl-- I just checked them quickly. But the major networks seem to have abandoned news at is happens, leaving it to cable. To MsNBC's credit, they normally do taped documentaries on Friday night, but they hauled in the weekend warriors and some of their regular commentators and went live for 3 hours. CNN stayed with the story from 10 pm till 1.15 AM. Ditto for Fox News. Interestingly, PBS had no mechanism for live coverage, which is surprising, given that just about every NPR station found a way to cover the story on radio... Oh speaking of one classy thing-- I thought it was nice that Channel 5 did a tribute to Gary LaPierre. I expected CBS4 (WBZ TV) to do it, of course, but it was also nice to see competitors give Gary his proper respect as somebody who has been on the air for a very very long time. From markwats@comcast.net Sat Dec 30 07:30:52 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 07:30:52 -0500 Subject: Sports trumps Saddam news... References: <20061230082009.456611024B@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> <20061230084952.65126C0C9@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <000901c72c0e$59043240$9447da18@Mark> Donna Halper wrote: > Oh speaking of one classy thing-- I thought it was nice that Channel 5 did > a tribute to Gary LaPierre. I expected CBS4 (WBZ TV) to do it, of course, > but it was also nice to see competitors give Gary his proper respect as > somebody who has been on the air for a very very long time. Channel 5 anchor Susan Wornick closed the Noon news yesterday with video of Gary's last day, showing the crowd filled newsroom and Gary hugging his longtime morning sports reporter Gil Santos (who's been at WBZ since 1966) and Susan closed the story with a personal note about her first job in Boston news working at WBZ along with Gary and wishing him well on behalf of everyone at Channel 5. Very classy indeed. And notes of network coverage of another major story yesterday: the arrival of President Ford's casket at the Church in California just before 3:30 PM. CNN, MSNBC & Fox News on cable had extended coverage before the arrival of the hearse & motorcade. Once the motorcade was approaching, CBS broke into the Sun Bowl college football game (with katie Couric anchoring) & ABC (Charles Gibson anchoring) interrupted "General Hospital" to show the arrival and prayers as the casket was carried in, but I don't know if NBC covered it live, as Channel 7 continued showing "Family Feud". I didn't think of checking the radio to see if WBZ, WRKO, WTKK, etc interrupted regular programming to carry this also. Mark Watson From hykker@grolen.com Sat Dec 30 09:48:08 2006 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:48:08 -0500 Subject: Sports trumps Saddam news... In-Reply-To: <20061230084952.65126C0C9@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> References: <20061230082009.456611024B@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> <20061230084952.65126C0C9@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061230094244.019d41d0@grolen.com> Donna Halper wrote: >TV was the same as before-- CBS used to really cover this stuff, but >they just waited for the 11pm News on channel 4 and let it get >covered there. Then back into regular programming. I think it was the right decision. This was not exactly breaking news...we knew it was gonna happen. Listeners/viewers can get mighty testy when their favorite shows and/or sporting events are interrupted by news bulletins that don't directly affect them. There are plenty of sources for news junkies to get their fix. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/598 - Release Date: 12/22/2006 From marklaurence@mac.com Sat Dec 30 10:09:04 2006 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:09:04 -0500 Subject: Sports trumps Saddam news... In-Reply-To: <20061230082009.456611024B@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20061230082009.456611024B@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: On Dec 30, 2006, at 3:20 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > How news of Saddam's execution was covered locally: None of this is too surprising, and I think each station made the right call, except for one. > --WTKK started a delayed version of Laura Ingraham, with host Tammy > Bruce, but she barely finished > introducing herself when the CNN News feed kicked in with details. > And WTKK stayed with it for just over > 3 hours! That's a smart move, as most talk show listeners, especially the conservative types, would be interested in this development. The decision was made easier because the alternative was canned issues talk that couldn't possibly be keeping up with the news. > CNN Headline > News...and outside of a TOH update on Saddam at 11 pm, they were > giving you Scott Peterson stuff > on Nancy Grace, then the always important Showbiz Tonight. Saddam who? That's the one wrong call. CNN Headline News during prime time is an embarrassment. They should change their name or their programming. > --WRKO, too busy with dribble-dribble Celtics basketball, though I > think they got into it via Coast to > Coast (with a fill in) at 1 am This is the right call. There were several places to hear the news, but only one place to hear the Celtics game. > --WBZ too busy with shot--score!!! Bruins hockey, but Jordan Rich > came on about 11:35 pm or so > with a slightly extended show. This is the closest call, but I think WBZ did the right thing. The larger question is whether a station that positions itself as "all news" should go after sports franchises at all. WBZ isn't really all news anyway, so that puts less pressure on them to drop everything for a major story. But once they made the commitment for Bruins hockey, they should stay with it. > --WBUR had coverage via BBC but I was mostly listening to 96.9 Another good call. WBUR's choice was between a canned and outdated talk show, or what they did. For a true national emergency, everyone should drop their formats and tell people what they need to know. That's what happened during 9/11. But Saddam's execution is no emergency situation. In fact, for a long time after it happened, the coverage on the cable news stations was of the "we can't confirm anything but we can speculate" style. I was watching the Bruins game on NESN, when I saw a story on my computer that reminded me that Saddam was about to die. I thought that was more interesting than hockey and switched to CNN. But that should be my choice as a viewer/ listener, not something the station inflicts on me. From ewerme@comcast.net Sat Dec 30 12:28:55 2006 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:28:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ Message-ID: <20061230172855.BC06AE925@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> Joe Ross notes: > Well, I'm still not used to weather reports without Don Kent and > morning news without Jack Chase. Or New Years Eve without Guy > Lombardo. Or the Boston Pops without Arthur Fiedler. For that > matter, it seems to me that Bob Hope should be in Iraq entertaining > the troops. I haven't heard Bert Parks sing "There She Is, Miss America" in decades. -Ric Werme From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Dec 30 20:36:33 2006 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:36:33 -0500 Subject: Sports trumps Saddam news... In-Reply-To: <20061230084952.65126C0C9@relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <000101c72c7c$1d8faaf0$e7c105cf@yourm3vezyx8af> I watched some of the coverage on TV. Much of the early coverage was what has become much too common -- non-stop coverage with little real information and mainly speculation. There was little reason to cut away from a game for non-stop coverage. A sixty second news update would have been enough. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From me@billoneill.us Sun Dec 31 09:47:40 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 09:47:40 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ In-Reply-To: <39118.66.195.169.98.1167425700.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> References: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark> <39118.66.195.169.98.1167425700.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> Message-ID: <4597CD8C.9010901@billoneill.us> Scott Fybush wrote: > I'm pretty sure we haven't heard the last from "the boy from Shelburne > Falls" just yet... > > s > I have no doubt that Scott, Donna, and others here with their keen sense of history will deliver some great material on Gary LaPierre in the weeks and months ahead. Certainly no look back to Boston radio history will be complete without a look at LaPierre's impact. I was also impressed with Gary's work on the TV side. I recall him being a frequent noon anchor and he did quite well. I wonder if the Archives here could find space for a classic rendition of LaPierre reciting no-school announcements at Warp-4 (unretouched audio, of course!) Happy New Year to all-a-yiz in BRI land. Bill O'Neill I just looked back to the archives and it looks like I've transited the ten year mark here. Pass the Postum [cough]. From PaulBCurrier@comcast.net Sun Dec 31 11:20:29 2006 From: PaulBCurrier@comcast.net (Paul B Currier) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:20:29 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ References: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark><39118.66.195.169.98.1167425700.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> <4597CD8C.9010901@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <002c01c72cf7$96cc63b0$123f434b@DG07P241> I also recall Gary filling in for Paul Harvey NEWS! at noon some time ago. Pretty good recognition for a Mass. country boy. Paul Cape Cod ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Scott Fybush" Cc: "Boston Radio" Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: Re: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ > Scott Fybush wrote: > > I'm pretty sure we haven't heard the last from "the boy from Shelburne > > Falls" just yet... > > > > s > > > I have no doubt that Scott, Donna, and others here with their keen sense > of history will deliver some great material on Gary LaPierre in the > weeks and months ahead. Certainly no look back to Boston radio history > will be complete without a look at LaPierre's impact. > > > I was also impressed with Gary's work on the TV side. I recall him being > a frequent noon anchor and he did quite well. I wonder if the Archives > here could find space for a classic rendition of LaPierre reciting > no-school announcements at Warp-4 (unretouched audio, of course!) > > > Happy New Year to all-a-yiz in BRI land. > > > Bill O'Neill > I just looked back to the archives and it looks like I've transited the > ten year mark here. Pass the Postum [cough]. > From PaulBCurrier@comcast.net Sun Dec 31 11:27:21 2006 From: PaulBCurrier@comcast.net (Paul B Currier) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:27:21 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ References: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark> <459547AE.13166.1734CD@localhost> Message-ID: <005001c72cf8$8c8beb40$123f434b@DG07P241> RE: Well, I'm still not used to weather reports without Don Kent and morning news without Jack Chase. At least we still have 'BZ live and doing quite well. I still miss Breakfast Extra with Leo Egan on 'HDH.... Paul Cape Cod ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Scott Fybush" Cc: "Boston Radio" Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: Re: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ > On 29 Dec 2006 Scott Fybush wrote: > > > It's still pretty much impossible for me to imagine that the next big > > story to hit New England won't have Gary's voice announcing and > > explaining it on 1030. I got the impression, in a very brief phone > > conversation with Gary very early this morning, that he can't quite > > imagine it yet, either. > > Well, I'm still not used to weather reports without Don Kent and > morning news without Jack Chase. Or New Years Eve without Guy > Lombardo. Or the Boston Pops without Arthur Fiedler. For that > matter, it seems to me that Bob Hope should be in Iraq entertaining > the troops. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From scott@fybush.com Sun Dec 31 12:40:25 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:40:25 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ In-Reply-To: <002c01c72cf7$96cc63b0$123f434b@DG07P241> References: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark><39118.66.195.169.98.1167425700.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> <4597CD8C.9010901@billoneill.us> <002c01c72cf7$96cc63b0$123f434b@DG07P241> Message-ID: <4597F609.6080904@fybush.com> Paul B Currier wrote: > I also recall Gary filling in for Paul Harvey NEWS! at noon some time ago. > Pretty good recognition for a Mass. country boy. Therein lies a tale... Gary filled in for Harvey at least three times that I know of. The first couple of times, ABC paid for Gary to come down to New York and originate the broadcast from the ABC Radio Networks facility on West End Avenue, using Harvey's staff in Chicago to help him write it. I'm guessing Jay McQuaide would have filled in for Gary on BZ those mornings, but no longer recall for certain. But the third time, Gary didn't want to make the trip down to New York, and persuaded ABC to let him originate the broadcast from Studio E at 1170 Soldiers Field Road. ABC gave Gary money to hire a per diem writer to work with him in Boston on the broadcasts, and since I was Gary's writer at the time, I got to do the honors. This is one of my favorite memories from my time at BZ: standing in studio E with Gary and Bill Flaherty, who was engineering the ISDN connection to ABC in New York (brand-new technology for us at that point), watching the clock tick down to the start of the first feed. Bill was excited. I was excited. And here's the thing that still sticks out in my mind: Gary was excited. Here's a guy who's hung out with the Beatles, interviewed presidents, and had probably spent more time on the air by then than I'd spent alive at all - and HE's as excited as the rest of us at the chance to be Paul Harvey for a day. It was a good day for the boy from Shelburne Falls, and for the kid from Rochester, too, come to think of it. s From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Dec 31 13:01:52 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:01:52 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ In-Reply-To: <4597F609.6080904@fybush.com> References: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark> <39118.66.195.169.98.1167425700.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> <4597CD8C.9010901@billoneill.us> <002c01c72cf7$96cc63b0$123f434b@DG07P241> <4597F609.6080904@fybush.com> Message-ID: <20061231175955.1AC6744C082@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> >Scott wrote-- > >Gary filled in for Harvey at least three times that I know of. The >first couple of times, ABC paid for Gary to come down to New York >and originate the broadcast from the ABC Radio Networks facility on >West End Avenue, using Harvey's staff in Chicago to help him write >it. I'm guessing Jay McQuaide would have filled in for Gary on BZ >those mornings, but no longer recall for certain. I have a question about Jay McQuaide-- I gather they didn't renew his contract at WBZ. I know he got another job, but my understanding is that he is out of radio? Ditto for Flo Jonic, as I recall-- she did some story that the government didn't like (and she turned out to have been 100% accurate) but she was fired or something? I may be remembering incorrectly-- I've been sick with bronchitis so I am not my usual sweet, charming and alert self. :) From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Dec 31 13:28:25 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:28:25 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ In-Reply-To: <4597CD8C.9010901@billoneill.us> References: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark> <39118.66.195.169.98.1167425700.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> <4597CD8C.9010901@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <20061231182627.B4A0944C06D@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> >>Bill wrote-- >I have no doubt that Scott, Donna, and others here with their keen >sense of history will deliver some great material on Gary LaPierre >in the weeks and months ahead. Certainly no look back to Boston >radio history will be complete without a look at LaPierre's impact. I didn't always agree with him politically-- he seemed to get more and more conservative as the years went on-- but we sometimes e-mailed each other to debate politics and I always found him both erudite and courteous. I'm gonna miss hearing him on the air. From markwats@comcast.net Sun Dec 31 15:18:00 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:18:00 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ References: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark><39118.66.195.169.98.1167425700.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com><4597CD8C.9010901@billoneill.us><002c01c72cf7$96cc63b0$123f434b@DG07P241><4597F609.6080904@fybush.com> <20061231175955.1AC6744C082@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <001601c72d18$c5d90e30$9447da18@Mark> Donna Halper wrote: > I have a question about Jay McQuaide-- I gather they didn't renew his > contract at WBZ. I know he got another job, but my understanding is that > he is out of radio? Ditto for Flo Jonic, as I recall-- she did some story > that the government didn't like (and she turned out to have been 100% > accurate) but she was fired or something? IIRC, Jay McQuaide went to Blue Cross Blue Shield of MA, I think he's their media relations or public relations person. I also recall that he did fill in for Gary when he was on vacation, he may have also filled in during the times that Gary filled in or Paul Harvey. Jay also did some fill in anchor work on WBZ-TV. One wonders if Jay would have been given the morning slot had he stayed at BZ. Flo Jonic was fired by WBZ after e-mailing several of her co-workers claiming that station management withheld her report of security flaws at several federal buildings in Boston. Looking back through Scott Fybush's NERW archives, I found according to his 2005 year in review that Flo was fired in August, Jay left shortly after Flo's firing. A search on line brough me to an archived June 2006 Flo Jonic news report on WRNI's (1290 Providence/1230 Westerly RI) website. However, she's not listed when I clicked on WRNI Staff, so maybe she worked their briefly or freelances for them. Mark Watson From markwats@comcast.net Sun Dec 31 15:32:38 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:32:38 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ References: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark><39118.66.195.169.98.1167425700.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com><4597CD8C.9010901@billoneill.us><002c01c72cf7$96cc63b0$123f434b@DG07P241> <4597F609.6080904@fybush.com> Message-ID: <002901c72d1a$d1287e40$9447da18@Mark> Scott Fybush wrote: > But the third time, Gary didn't want to make the trip down to New York, > and persuaded ABC to let him originate the broadcast from Studio E at 1170 > Soldiers Field Road. ABC gave Gary money to hire a per diem writer to work > with him in Boston on the broadcasts, and since I was Gary's writer at the > time, I got to do the honors. And what an honor for someone who once climbed the fabled WCAP stairs on Saturday mornings in the early 90's to write & report the news on the "Bill O'Neill Show". Scott may be the only WCAP staffer who wrote material that was read on Paul Harvey's news, albeit with Gary LaPierre filling in. To quote Mr. Harvey: "Now you know....the rest of the story". Mark Watson, 'Good Day!!" From shaylee2@verizon.net Sun Dec 31 16:10:08 2006 From: shaylee2@verizon.net (shaylee2@verizon.net) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:10:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ Message-ID: <7142932.2157901167599409043.JavaMail.root@vms246> Well I still can not get over that Carl Moore and The Beantown Matinee are no longer on the air (original WEEI); and Ray Dorey with The Park Squares (Original WHDH). Bring back E.B. Rideout and Leo Egan, among all the other greats. Ed H. ...shaylee2@verizon.net >From: Paul B Currier >Date: 2006/12/31 Sun AM 10:27:21 CST >To: "A. Joseph Ross" , Scott Fybush >Cc: Boston Radio >Subject: Re: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ >RE: Well, I'm still not used to weather reports without Don Kent and >morning news without Jack Chase. > >At least we still have 'BZ live and doing quite well. I still miss >Breakfast Extra with Leo Egan on 'HDH.... > >Paul Cape Cod > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: "Scott Fybush" >Cc: "Boston Radio" >Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 4:51 PM >Subject: Re: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ > > >> On 29 Dec 2006 Scott Fybush wrote: >> >> > It's still pretty much impossible for me to imagine that the next big >> > story to hit New England won't have Gary's voice announcing and >> > explaining it on 1030. I got the impression, in a very brief phone >> > conversation with Gary very early this morning, that he can't quite >> > imagine it yet, either. >> >> Well, I'm still not used to weather reports without Don Kent and >> morning news without Jack Chase. Or New Years Eve without Guy >> Lombardo. Or the Boston Pops without Arthur Fiedler. For that >> matter, it seems to me that Bob Hope should be in Iraq entertaining >> the troops. >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >> 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 >> Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> >> From PaulBCurrier@comcast.net Sun Dec 31 17:53:29 2006 From: PaulBCurrier@comcast.net (Paul B Currier) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:53:29 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ References: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark><39118.66.195.169.98.1167425700.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> <4597CD8C.9010901@billoneill.us> <002c01c72cf7$96cc63b0$123f434b@DG07P241> <4597F609.6080904@fybush.com> Message-ID: <007101c72d2e$7dc29c40$123f434b@DG07P241> Ah yes, The Story Behind the Story!! I'm constantly amazed with the insight and knowledge that is contributed by shared by the participants of this list . Paul Cape Cod ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Paul B Currier" Cc: "Bill O'Neill" ; "Boston Radio" Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ > Paul B Currier wrote: > > I also recall Gary filling in for Paul Harvey NEWS! at noon some time ago. > > Pretty good recognition for a Mass. country boy. > > Therein lies a tale... > > Gary filled in for Harvey at least three times that I know of. The first > couple of times, ABC paid for Gary to come down to New York and > originate the broadcast from the ABC Radio Networks facility on West End > Avenue, using Harvey's staff in Chicago to help him write it. I'm > guessing Jay McQuaide would have filled in for Gary on BZ those > mornings, but no longer recall for certain. > > But the third time, Gary didn't want to make the trip down to New York, > and persuaded ABC to let him originate the broadcast from Studio E at > 1170 Soldiers Field Road. ABC gave Gary money to hire a per diem writer > to work with him in Boston on the broadcasts, and since I was Gary's > writer at the time, I got to do the honors. > > This is one of my favorite memories from my time at BZ: standing in > studio E with Gary and Bill Flaherty, who was engineering the ISDN > connection to ABC in New York (brand-new technology for us at that > point), watching the clock tick down to the start of the first feed. > Bill was excited. I was excited. And here's the thing that still sticks > out in my mind: Gary was excited. Here's a guy who's hung out with the > Beatles, interviewed presidents, and had probably spent more time on the > air by then than I'd spent alive at all - and HE's as excited as the > rest of us at the chance to be Paul Harvey for a day. > > It was a good day for the boy from Shelburne Falls, and for the kid from > Rochester, too, come to think of it. > > s > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Dec 31 19:17:09 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:17:09 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ In-Reply-To: <7142932.2157901167599409043.JavaMail.root@vms246> References: <7142932.2157901167599409043.JavaMail.root@vms246> Message-ID: <20070101001511.9411E44C00C@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 04:10 PM 12/31/2006, you wrote: >Well I still can not get over that Carl Moore and The Beantown >Matinee are no longer on the air (original WEEI); and Ray Dorey with >The Park Squares (Original WHDH). Ah but at least one member of the original Park Squares, Don Alessi, is still alive and even though he's around 90, he still performs. Had lunch with him a few months ago and he looked great! Jess Cain has been ill, but he too is still with us, and I have some rare photos of him from the 50s and 60s. But too bad so few pieces of audio (or even video for that matter) remain of some of our legendary broadcasters-- Big Brother Bob Emery spanned the decades from the early 1920s right up to the early 70s, yet if anybody has a kinescope of him, I haven't found one. I have one of his phonograph records from 1926 (!) but not much else. I do have pictures of Ray Dorey and a couple of his 78s. Carl Moore-- he got started circa 1932 with "Beantown Varieties" and I have a photo of him at the piano. Photos I have. Sound, I have not. And what about the old Yankee Network-- I have their sounder: "News while it IS news, the Yankee Network is on the air," and I think a few old newscasts are out there somewhere... From revdoug1@verizon.net Sun Dec 31 23:29:52 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 23:29:52 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ References: <7142932.2157901167599409043.JavaMail.root@vms246> <20070101001511.9411E44C00C@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <00d001c72d5d$7be397b0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Donna: In addition to the Yankee Network sounder that you mentioned, when I was a teenager the Yankee Network played a somewhat embellished instrumental of the first and second lines of "Yankee Doodle" as the intro to its newscasts. Was that a tradition with the network, or was it something that was done only during its final years? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ > At 04:10 PM 12/31/2006, you wrote: > > > >Well I still can not get over that Carl Moore and The Beantown > >Matinee are no longer on the air (original WEEI); and Ray Dorey with > >The Park Squares (Original WHDH). > > Ah but at least one member of the original Park Squares, Don Alessi, > is still alive and even though he's around 90, he still > performs. Had lunch with him a few months ago and he looked > great! Jess Cain has been ill, but he too is still with us, and I > have some rare photos of him from the 50s and 60s. But too bad so > few pieces of audio (or even video for that matter) remain of some of > our legendary broadcasters-- Big Brother Bob Emery spanned the > decades from the early 1920s right up to the early 70s, yet if > anybody has a kinescope of him, I haven't found one. I have one of > his phonograph records from 1926 (!) but not much else. I do have > pictures of Ray Dorey and a couple of his 78s. Carl Moore-- he got > started circa 1932 with "Beantown Varieties" and I have a photo of > him at the piano. Photos I have. Sound, I have not. And what about > the old Yankee Network-- I have their sounder: "News while it IS > news, the Yankee Network is on the air," and I think a few old > newscasts are out there somewhere... > >