From nostaticatall@charter.net Tue Aug 1 04:16:18 2006 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 04:16:18 -0400 Subject: Gr. Media Press release In-Reply-To: <44CE8B83.15059.752D14@localhost> References: <44CE8B83.15059.752D14@localhost> Message-ID: <12add06364d6625545b43286db318b89@charter.net> >> "We worked very hard to identify a company that would protect the >> classical music format in Boston," said Peter Smyth, Greater Media's >> President & CEO. I am both happy and proud that classical music will >> continue to have a home on the Boston airwaves. This is a great deal >> for all three companies, and for Boston's radio listeners and >> advertisers." > > This is the first I've heard that Greater Media was trying to > preserve the classical format. I wonder why. GM is not preserving the Classical format. Nassau is. Smyth is just saying that it was important for GM to find a buyer who would preserve classical. >> Charles River Broadcasting Company owns WCRB in Boston, WFCC and WKPE >> on Cape Cod, WCRI and WCNX in Rhode Island, along with the World >> Classical Network and various real estate holdings. WCRB has been >> broadcasting classical music in Boston since 1950. > > I wonder what will happen to the other Charles River Broadcasting > properties. I thought I remember seeing something on the 'net awhile back announcing that Charles River had an agreement to sell their Rhode Island stations to a different entity. In previous reports, not only was Nassau buying 99.5, but also the intellectual property of WCRB, including the World Classical Network. None of that was mentioned in today's press release so who knows what the status of the network is. I wouldn't be surprised if Nassau winds up buying the Cape Cod stations as well, but if they do, they'll have to spin off one FM. My guess would be one of the Frank frequencies would go--most likely 93.5/Harwichport. I would think Frank would then move to WKPE's frequency and Nassau would do something else on 101.1..... Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Aug 1 07:17:23 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:17:23 -0400 Subject: Dick Summer reveals the REAL father of classic rock radio inBoston References: <002301c6b490$836a2620$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <44CE8B84.14072.752EA2@localhost> Message-ID: <001a01c6b55c$1606c940$19eefea9@dstrassberg> What triggered the affiliation shift was WTRY being sold to a group from Providence RI headed by a guy named Mowry Lowe. I believe the price was $800,000, which sounds like a little bit today, but by the standards of more than 50 years ago, was a high price--justified by the station's high billings. I think Lowe and his partners owned WEAN 790 (now WSKO) in Providence and they had had considerable success with it as a locally-programmed music-and-news (MOR) station modeled on New York City's WNEW. Lowe's timing was excellent because TV was making the entertainment fare--but not the news--offered by the four major radio networks (ABC, CBS, Mutual, and NBC) increasingly irrelevant. Despite their lack of network news, locally programmed stations were starting to do very well compared with the network affiliaites. Anyhow, WTRY, as a CBS affiliate, had had several local programs that were top-rated in the market. One was Paul Flanagan's Tri-City Ballroom, a call-in request show (no calls on air) heard Saturday nights from 10:00 PM to 1:00 AM. The program was noted for jamming the New York Telephone Co's local switchboards with calls from teens trying to vote for their favorite record of the week. The 1954 advent of rock-n-roll as the major recorded-music genre only increased the show's popularity. WTRY also had another local legend, Roy Schutt's First-Prize Musical Clock, which aired Monday-thru-Friday mornings from 8:00 AM to 9:00 AM (right before Arthur Godfrey, as long as WTRY was affiliated with CBS). This show, sponsored by a local meat packer (First Prize bologna and hot dogs) seemed to appeal to the grandparents of Flanagan's audience. Grandma and Grandpa would call (not on air) to have Schutt announce their grandkids' birthdays. Rumor had it that most school-bus drivers in the market would play the show on the bus radios so the kids could hear the announcements. When WTRY switched from CBS to MOR, Flanagan was already a local legend. The switch gave him more airtime (a weekday PM-drive show) and only heightened his popularity. Schutt, who already had obscenely high ratings (IIRC, more than a 40 share), continued to draw those ratings even though he was about as cornball and un-hip as one could imagine. WTRY had a very savvy and quite hip PD, Randy English, whose personal taste was, obviously, not reflected in most of what the station broadcast but he was really tuned in to what the market wanted and knew how to deliver it. I'm sure that English must have regarded the departure of CBS and the consequent addition of something like 10 hours a day of local programming as a golden opportunity. The Providence folks brought with them their local star, a DJ named Ernie Anderson, who did mid mornings. I thought he was horrendous, but his ratings on WTRY were great too. And besides the PM-drive top-40 show, Flanagan added a nightly (7:00 PM to 8:00 PM, IIRC) EZ show called Lemonade Concert (the theme song was David Rose's Seranade to a Lemonade), which also garnered good ratings and kept a lot of the radio listeners tuned in for an extra hour before they switched off their radios and turned on their TVs. Back in the mid-50s, most people regarded the decline of the daytime radio soap operas and the departure to TV of headlined nighttime fare, such as Fred Allen, Jack Benny, and Gunsmoke, as signs of the end of radio's Golden Age. In fact, though, those events marked the beginning of a second Golden Age, denoted by the pre-eminence of local MOR and Top-40. Among stations in mid-sized markets, WTRY was fortunate to be a shining star of both of those Golden Ages. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Rick Kelly" Cc: "boston Radio Interest" Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 11:00 PM Subject: Re: Dick Summer reveals the REAL father of classic rock radio inBoston > > Sometime around 1955, or maybe 1956, there was a major shift of radio > network affiliations in the Albany area. CBS went from WTRY to WROW, > leaving WTRY without a network affiliation. ABC went from WROW to > WPTR. And Mutual went from WPTR to WOKO. The only network that > stayed put was NBC on WGY. > > > Paul Flanagan was a painfully shy guy, I tried unsuccessfully (by > > annoying the hell out of him with constant phone calls)to mentor me > > but he just wouldnt. > > I remember Paul Flanagan on WTRY, and then he moved to WPTR sometime > in 1956, I think. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Aug 1 08:13:48 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:13:48 -0400 Subject: WBUR on HD ??? Message-ID: > > From: "Donald A." > To: bri@bostonradio.org > Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:59:48 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: WBUR on HD ??? > > Does WBUR have their HD signal on the air yet? WBUR switched on their HD for their main programming on January 28, 2005. > If so, what are they doing for programming (or what > will be the plans for) their second HD Channel? I haven't yet heard of any plans for it. EP From revdoug1@verizon.net Tue Aug 1 09:42:40 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:42:40 -0400 Subject: Dick Summer reveals the REAL father of classic rock radio inBoston References: <002301c6b490$836a2620$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <44CE8B84.14072.752EA2@localhost> <001a01c6b55c$1606c940$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <014c01c6b570$5d8798d0$2e01a8c0@pastor2> When I was a teen in the '60s, WTRY was a very well-run Top 40 station, owned at the time by Kops-Monahan Communications, which also owned [the similarly well-run] WAVZ in New Haven. (Mr. Monahan was the brother of my 6th-grade teacher, so I knew all about this stuff.) WTRY operated basically as an indie; it had a curious, rather nominal affiliation with Mutual, running, at certain times of the day, the first couple of minutes of Mutual's half-hourly newscast and then completing it with local and regional news. WTRY's big competitor in those days was, of course, WPTR. I never did know which station topped the ratings. Does anyone have that info.? WPTR became the Capital District's ABC affiliate in the mid-'50s, as you attest, but by the time I started listening to Top 40 it was independent. WOKO had left Mutual and had gone to ABC. WPTR rejoined ABC --- American Contemporary Radio, more properly --- around 1968 when the old network was split into thirds. Does anyone know what became of Paul Flanagan? That's a name I hadn't heard in years. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Rick Kelly" Cc: "boston Radio Interest" Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:17 AM Subject: Re: Dick Summer reveals the REAL father of classic rock radio inBoston > What triggered the affiliation shift was WTRY being sold to a group from > Providence RI headed by a guy named Mowry Lowe. I believe the price was > $800,000, which sounds like a little bit today, but by the standards of more > than 50 years ago, was a high price--justified by the station's high > billings. I think Lowe and his partners owned WEAN 790 (now WSKO) in > Providence and they had had considerable success with it as a > locally-programmed music-and-news (MOR) station modeled on New York City's > WNEW. Lowe's timing was excellent because TV was making the entertainment > fare--but not the news--offered by the four major radio networks (ABC, CBS, > Mutual, and NBC) increasingly irrelevant. Despite their lack of network > news, locally programmed stations were starting to do very well compared > with the network affiliaites. > > Anyhow, WTRY, as a CBS affiliate, had had several local programs that were > top-rated in the market. One was Paul Flanagan's Tri-City Ballroom, a > call-in request show (no calls on air) heard Saturday nights from 10:00 PM > to 1:00 AM. The program was noted for jamming the New York Telephone Co's > local switchboards with calls from teens trying to vote for their favorite > record of the week. The 1954 advent of rock-n-roll as the major > recorded-music genre only increased the show's popularity. WTRY also had > another local legend, Roy Schutt's First-Prize Musical Clock, which aired > Monday-thru-Friday mornings from 8:00 AM to 9:00 AM (right before Arthur > Godfrey, as long as WTRY was affiliated with CBS). This show, sponsored by a > local meat packer (First Prize bologna and hot dogs) seemed to appeal to the > grandparents of Flanagan's audience. Grandma and Grandpa would call (not on > air) to have Schutt announce their grandkids' birthdays. Rumor had it that > most school-bus drivers in the market would play the show on the bus radios > so the kids could hear the announcements. > > When WTRY switched from CBS to MOR, Flanagan was already a local legend. The > switch gave him more airtime (a weekday PM-drive show) and only heightened > his popularity. Schutt, who already had obscenely high ratings (IIRC, more > than a 40 share), continued to draw those ratings even though he was about > as cornball and un-hip as one could imagine. > > WTRY had a very savvy and quite hip PD, Randy English, whose personal taste > was, obviously, not reflected in most of what the station broadcast but he > was really tuned in to what the market wanted and knew how to deliver it. > I'm sure that English must have regarded the departure of CBS and the > consequent addition of something like 10 hours a day of local programming as > a golden opportunity. The Providence folks brought with them their local > star, a DJ named Ernie Anderson, who did mid mornings. I thought he was > horrendous, but his ratings on WTRY were great too. And besides the PM-drive > top-40 show, Flanagan added a nightly (7:00 PM to 8:00 PM, IIRC) EZ show > called Lemonade Concert (the theme song was David Rose's Seranade to a > Lemonade), which also garnered good ratings and kept a lot of the radio > listeners tuned in for an extra hour before they switched off their radios > and turned on their TVs. > > Back in the mid-50s, most people regarded the decline of the daytime radio > soap operas and the departure to TV of headlined nighttime fare, such as > Fred Allen, Jack Benny, and Gunsmoke, as signs of the end of radio's Golden > Age. In fact, though, those events marked the beginning of a second Golden > Age, denoted by the pre-eminence of local MOR and Top-40. Among stations in > mid-sized markets, WTRY was fortunate to be a shining star of both of those > Golden Ages. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: "Rick Kelly" > Cc: "boston Radio Interest" > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 11:00 PM > Subject: Re: Dick Summer reveals the REAL father of classic rock radio > inBoston > > > > > > Sometime around 1955, or maybe 1956, there was a major shift of radio > > network affiliations in the Albany area. CBS went from WTRY to WROW, > > leaving WTRY without a network affiliation. ABC went from WROW to > > WPTR. And Mutual went from WPTR to WOKO. The only network that > > stayed put was NBC on WGY. > > > > > Paul Flanagan was a painfully shy guy, I tried unsuccessfully (by > > > annoying the hell out of him with constant phone calls)to mentor me > > > but he just wouldnt. > > > > I remember Paul Flanagan on WTRY, and then he moved to WPTR sometime > > in 1956, I think. > > > > -- > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > > > > > From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Tue Aug 1 10:04:32 2006 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WBUR HD2, put the student station (WTBU) on the HD2 (was Re: WBUR on HD ???) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060801140432.22691.qmail@web50807.mail.yahoo.com> Here's a thought. Put the carrier current (leaky coax FM) student run WTBU on the HD2 channel. Originally, WBUR-FM was a predominantly student run/community based radio station until 1971 when the administration dumped most, if not all, student produced programming. The AM carrier current station was to be the "carrot" for the students as a consolation prize. (wow!) Going from 20,000 watts in Stereo to a carrier current AM that never covered the campus. WBUR went "public", in the usual NPR way. No doubt, WBUR is well respected quality news and information station. But, a major university with a high powered FM signal could expand it's community/student service and put the student station on the HD2. Any thoughts? --- Eli Polonsky wrote: > > > From: "Donald A." > > To: bri@bostonradio.org > > Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:59:48 -0700 (PDT) > > Subject: WBUR on HD ??? > > > > Does WBUR have their HD signal on the air yet? > > WBUR switched on their HD for their main programming > on > January 28, 2005. > > > If so, what are they doing for programming (or > what > > will be the plans for) their second HD Channel? > > I haven't yet heard of any plans for it. > > EP > > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mamros@MIT.EDU Tue Aug 1 11:35:03 2006 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:35:03 -0400 Subject: WBUR HD2, put the student station (WTBU) on the HD2 (was Re: WBUR on HD ???) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:04:32 PDT." <20060801140432.22691.qmail@web50807.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200608011535.k71FZ3C1006098@no-knife.mit.edu> >Here's a thought. Put the carrier current (leaky coax >FM) student run WTBU on the HD2 channel. [...] Nice thought, but I don't see it happening. I suspect 'BUR would rather find some way of getting more underwriting revenue through the HD2 channel. Even if they didn't come up with something anytime soon, putting 'TBU on there just to have something there wouldn't be a kind thing to do once 'BUR comes up with a more lucrative use for the HD2 channel, and then has to boot 'TBU off. Besides, WTBU has an Internet stream available via their website. That's almost certainly a better way to get listeners (especially student listeners) than an HD2 channel would be at this point... -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From Joe@attorneyross.com Tue Aug 1 13:56:04 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:56:04 -0400 Subject: Gr. Media Press release In-Reply-To: <12add06364d6625545b43286db318b89@charter.net> References: <44CE8B83.15059.752D14@localhost> Message-ID: <44CF5D74.6342.4165A2@localhost> On 1 Aug 2006 David Tomm wrote: > GM is not preserving the Classical format. Nassau is. Smyth is just > saying that it was important for GM to find a buyer who would preserve > classical. That's a quibble. According to their press release, they made an effort to preserve the classical format in Boston by looking for a buyer who would do so, instead of just looking for the most lucrative deal. We had never previously had any indication that they cared enough even to do that, and I wondered what their motivation was. Then again, it's just possible that they all they did was look for the most lucrative deal, and Nassau was it. Then they decided to put a better face on it for PR purposes by saying that they had looked hard for someone who would keep the classical format. It wouldn't surprise me. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From ssmyth@suscom.net Tue Aug 1 14:24:21 2006 From: ssmyth@suscom.net (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:24:21 -0400 Subject: Gr. Media Press release In-Reply-To: <44CF5D74.6342.4165A2@localhost> References: <44CE8B83.15059.752D14@localhost> <44CF5D74.6342.4165A2@localhost> Message-ID: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:56:04 -0400 "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: >That's a quibble. According to their press release, they made >an >effort to preserve the classical format in Boston by looking >for a >buyer who would do so, instead of just looking for the most >lucrative >deal. We had never previously had any indication that they >cared >enough even to do that, and I wondered what their motivation >was. We did have indications of that before -- it was Greater Media that offered WERS $10 million per year to run classical. Part of that deal also may have involved a call-letter change, though I can't recall. I think Greater/Charles River were more concerned about trying to side-step any potential challenge of the trust agreement that allegedly called for classical to remain in place for 99 years after Ted Jones' death. Speaking of which ... there was no mention of placing classical music on 102.5's HD2 channel. Undoubtedly, 99.5's main channel would have a much wider reach, but placing classical on 102.5's HD2 channel also might help ward off legal challenges from those saying that 99.5's signal doesn't get into Boston very well. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Tue Aug 1 14:35:21 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:35:21 -0400 Subject: Gr. Media Press release References: <44CE8B83.15059.752D14@localhost> <44CF5D74.6342.4165A2@localhost> Message-ID: <003501c6b599$42f034e0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > On 1 Aug 2006 David Tomm wrote: > > > GM is not preserving the Classical format. Nassau is. Smyth is just > > saying that it was important for GM to find a buyer who would preserve > > classical. > > >From: "A. Joseph Ross" > > That's a quibble. According to their press release, they made an > effort to preserve the classical format in Boston by looking for a > buyer who would do so, instead of just looking for the most lucrative > deal. We had never previously had any indication that they cared > enough even to do that, and I wondered what their motivation was. Speculating... 1.) Boston is the headquarters of Greater Media, they don't want to sow seeds of disconcert in their own back yard....possibly damaging the reputation of the other Boston stations in Gr. Media's portfolio? 2.) Smythe makes his home in Boston. While he does his CEO hobbnobbing at all the mucky-muck coctail parties...do you think he or his family wants to be contantly asked, "Are you the guys that killed Classical music in Boston?" He might not get invited to too many more cocktail parties. ;-) 3.) Dealing with the Jones trust in as neat a way as possible. (WCRB will now *continues* to program classical music in Boston as the trust stipulates, since Nassau bought the intellectual rights, etc......it's simply now on 99.5.) 4.) Maybe they learned their lesson when the killed the Clasical format in other cities. The damage is measured in more than dollars and ratings. Also in reputation. $.02 From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Aug 1 14:45:35 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:45:35 -0400 Subject: Gr. Media Press release References: <44CE8B83.15059.752D14@localhost> <44CF5D74.6342.4165A2@localhost> Message-ID: <000801c6b59a$b346f200$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Isn't classical already on an HD sub-channel of 96.9? If so, and if an HD sub-channel really complies with the terms of the trust, it would seem that Greater had already met the terms of the trust document. I think we can therefore assume that Smyth's rather frenzied ($10M/year???) approach to Emerson was a dead give-away that Greater had obtained legal opinions to the contrary and that independent counsel concurred with those opinions. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Smyth" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "David Tomm" Cc: "boston Radio Interest" Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Gr. Media Press release > On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:56:04 -0400 > "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: > >That's a quibble. According to their press release, they made > >an > >effort to preserve the classical format in Boston by looking > >for a > >buyer who would do so, instead of just looking for the most > >lucrative > >deal. We had never previously had any indication that they > >cared > >enough even to do that, and I wondered what their motivation > >was. > > We did have indications of that before -- it was Greater Media > that offered WERS $10 million per year to run classical. Part > of that deal also may have involved a call-letter change, > though I can't recall. I think Greater/Charles River were more > concerned about trying to side-step any potential challenge of > the trust agreement that allegedly called for classical to > remain in place for 99 years after Ted Jones' death. > > Speaking of which ... there was no mention of placing classical > music on 102.5's HD2 channel. Undoubtedly, 99.5's main channel > would have a much wider reach, but placing classical on 102.5's > HD2 channel also might help ward off legal challenges from > those saying that 99.5's signal doesn't get into Boston very > well. From stephanie@gordsven.com Tue Aug 1 15:05:10 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:05:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: 99.5 WCRB in Boston? Hardly In-Reply-To: <003501c6b599$42f034e0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <44CE8B83.15059.752D14@localhost> <44CF5D74.6342.4165A2@localhost> <003501c6b599$42f034e0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <56322.12.37.144.130.1154459110.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> On Tue, August 1, 2006 14:35, Don A. wrote: > 3.) Dealing with the Jones trust in as neat a way as possible. (WCRB will > now *continues* to program classical music in Boston as the trust > stipulates, since Nassau bought the intellectual rights, etc......it's > simply now on 99.5.) Except 99.5 FM in Boston proper is non-existent on run-of-the-mill radios (and I'm sure most high-end receivers too). It gets wiped out by the stations from the top of the Pru. 102.5, even though it had an antenna outside of the city, did put a solid signal into Boston. Enough to be able to tune it in on a Walkman. If you can't hear it on a Walkman's tuner....I'm sorry, it's not there. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Aug 1 15:08:19 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:08:19 -0400 Subject: Gr. Media Press release In-Reply-To: <000801c6b59a$b346f200$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <44CE8B83.15059.752D14@localhost> <44CF5D74.6342.4165A2@localhost> <000801c6b59a$b346f200$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608011208x3baca30cyed58bf585679e4e1@mail.gmail.com> On 8/1/06, Dan Strassberg wrote: > Isn't classical already on an HD sub-channel of 96.9? Yes. hdradio.com says (under Boston) 96.9-1 Talk 96.9-2 Classical And they have classic country on 99.5-2. One would think they would either continue classic country, but on 102.5-2, or they could move the classicial to that HD channel and put the classic country on 96.9-2... From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Tue Aug 1 15:10:31 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:10:31 -0400 Subject: 99.5 WCRB in Boston? Hardly References: <44CE8B83.15059.752D14@localhost> <44CF5D74.6342.4165A2@localhost><003501c6b599$42f034e0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <56322.12.37.144.130.1154459110.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> Message-ID: <00b101c6b59e$35696e40$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > On Tue, August 1, 2006 14:35, Don A. wrote: > > > 3.) Dealing with the Jones trust in as neat a way as possible. (WCRB will > > now *continues* to program classical music in Boston as the trust > > stipulates, since Nassau bought the intellectual rights, etc......it's > > simply now on 99.5.) > > Except 99.5 FM in Boston proper is non-existent on run-of-the-mill radios > (and I'm sure most high-end receivers too). It gets wiped out by the > stations from the top of the Pru. > > 102.5, even though it had an antenna outside of the city, did put a solid > signal into Boston. Enough to be able to tune it in on a Walkman. > > If you can't hear it on a Walkman's tuner....I'm sorry, it's not there. Let's not "diss" the 99.5 signal too badly.... http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WKLB&service=FM&status=L&hours=U It was competitive as WSSH-99.5... It is competitive as WKLB-99.5... Classical officianados will find it... Although a low-power repeater...quality online stream......and a deal to rebroadcast them on HD on a Boston stick (96.9 HD-2 which is classical now) would be some good options/alternatives. (BTW...Since Smythe controls Gr. Media...making a deal to rebroadcast the station on 96.9 HD-2 might be plausible.) From Joe@attorneyross.com Tue Aug 1 15:52:30 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:52:30 -0400 Subject: 99.5 WCRB in Boston? Hardly In-Reply-To: <56322.12.37.144.130.1154459110.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> References: <003501c6b599$42f034e0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <44CF78BE.22171.AC02B6@localhost> On 1 Aug 2006 Stephanie Weil wrote: > Except 99.5 FM in Boston proper is non-existent on run-of-the-mill > radios (and I'm sure most high-end receivers too). It gets wiped out > by the stations from the top of the Pru. To the contrary, in my office in Government Center, I have a lot of trouble picking up WCRB at 102.5. I use a rabbit-ears antenna, and I am constantly repositioning it and changing the setting on the antenna dial (BTW, can one of the techies on this list explain just what that multi-position switch on the bottom of a rabbit-ears antenna actually does?). It frequently is difficult to keep WCRB from being overpowered by an image of WROR. I just tried WKLB 99.5 and heard it with no problem. The same is true at my home in Brookline. To listen to 102.5, I use my livingroom stereo, which does get WCRB without problem, or a couple of early-60s vacuum-tube radios, which do a very good job. Newer and cheaper radios get WCRB with difficulty if at all, overwhelmed by the many images of other stations, probably from both the pru and FM 128 towers. I'm expecting improved reception in both locations when WCRB moves to 99.5. > 102.5, even though it had an antenna outside of the city, did put a > solid signal into Boston. Enough to be able to tune it in on a > Walkman. > > If you can't hear it on a Walkman's tuner....I'm sorry, it's not > there. Haven't tried it on a Walkman, but if I ever do, I'll let you know. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From songbook2@comcast.net Tue Aug 1 22:27:29 2006 From: songbook2@comcast.net (Russ Butler) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:27:29 -0700 Subject: White Tower radio sponsor Message-ID: <44D00D91.7050400@comcast.net> <<< "White Tower's Myoooz...ical Menu."....The sponsor was, of course, that chain of greasy little hamburger joints that, in those days, dotted the downtown areas of places like Albany, Troy, and even New York City>>> ...and all over Boston!! The burgers were made to order, they had 100% beef during WWII and they were delicious, not greasy :>) I bought them by the bagful - first they were 5-cents, then 10-cents and jumbo sized, 15-cents. They couldn't compare with White Castle which were greasy. Joe and Nemo's "everything for a dime" burgers in Scollay Square were neither beef nor un-greasy, the hot dogs were better and for a dime. Eat 'em up!! The dime reminds me of the Dugout across the street from BU that sold college folks draft beer for a dime. Line 'em up on the bar and down they go! Ah, memories of Beantown in the very early 50's. Anybody else remember? =Russ Butler songbook2@comcast.net From songbook2@comcast.net Tue Aug 1 22:27:29 2006 From: songbook2@comcast.net (Russ Butler) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:27:29 -0700 Subject: White Tower radio sponsor Message-ID: <44D00D91.7050400@comcast.net> <<< "White Tower's Myoooz...ical Menu."....The sponsor was, of course, that chain of greasy little hamburger joints that, in those days, dotted the downtown areas of places like Albany, Troy, and even New York City>>> ...and all over Boston!! The burgers were made to order, they had 100% beef during WWII and they were delicious, not greasy :>) I bought them by the bagful - first they were 5-cents, then 10-cents and jumbo sized, 15-cents. They couldn't compare with White Castle which were greasy. Joe and Nemo's "everything for a dime" burgers in Scollay Square were neither beef nor un-greasy, the hot dogs were better and for a dime. Eat 'em up!! The dime reminds me of the Dugout across the street from BU that sold college folks draft beer for a dime. Line 'em up on the bar and down they go! Ah, memories of Beantown in the very early 50's. Anybody else remember? =Russ Butler songbook2@comcast.net From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Tue Aug 1 21:43:12 2006 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [RE]Re: Gr. Media Press release In-Reply-To: <20060801171615.HM.0000000000000Fj@lglavin.bos-mail-wwl4.bos.lycos.com.lycos.com> Message-ID: <20060802014312.3801.qmail@web55314.mail.re4.yahoo.com> --- lglavin wrote: << If Mr. Smyth "hobnobs" with people of a certain level of sophistication, he'll find that nobody will miss WCRB...but if they live in the 99.5 coverage area, they may hope (forlornly probably) that the absence of Mario Mazzo and a new management team will provide a better product. >> I don't know who hobnobs with who.....Or what the yardstick of "sophistication" is...... But a "better product" is a subjective designation. If a product is judged by it's sucess, and how the public responds to it....from what I can see, 350,000 people tuned in to WCRB in it's latest incarnation during the Spring. These are 350,000 who _liked_ the product. 350,000 people who would have to find alternatives is WCRB went away completely. I think you'd be hard pressed to say that NONE of those people would miss something that has been part of their radio listening routine. And broadcasting is all about getting as many people to listen as possible, isn't it? The proof is in the pudding...errr, ratings results. ;-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Aug 2 00:28:38 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:28:38 -0400 Subject: Dick Summer reveals the REAL father of classic rock radio inBoston In-Reply-To: <001a01c6b55c$1606c940$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <44CFF1B6.30653.512297@localhost> On 1 Aug 2006 at 7:17, Dan Strassberg wrote: > What triggered the affiliation shift was WTRY being sold to a group > from Providence RI headed by a guy named Mowry Lowe. I always wondered about that. > Anyhow, WTRY, as a CBS affiliate, had had several local programs that > were top-rated in the market. One was Paul Flanagan's Tri-City > Ballroom, a call-in request show (no calls on air) heard Saturday > nights from 10:00 PM to 1:00 AM. And within the next year, Flanagan moved to WPTR. > Back in the mid-50s, most people regarded the decline of the daytime > radio soap operas and the departure to TV of headlined nighttime fare, > such as Fred Allen, Jack Benny, and Gunsmoke, as signs of the end of > radio's Golden Age. I remember hearing a promo in which Jack Benny said that his show would soon be on WROW. That places the time of the affiliate shift as sometime after February 1955. I first listened to Jack Benny for his birthday show that month, after my mother told me that it was his birthday and that he kept saying he was 39. I thought the show might be about his birthday, and it was. I now have a tape of that show. And I listened to it on WTRY. I'm guessing that the affiliation shift may have taken place sometime that spring, since the Jack Benny radio show ended in May 1955, though it continued in reruns for another couple of years. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Aug 2 00:28:38 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:28:38 -0400 Subject: Dick Summer reveals the REAL father of classic rock radio inBoston In-Reply-To: <014c01c6b570$5d8798d0$2e01a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <44CFF1B6.17975.512350@localhost> On 1 Aug 2006 at 9:42, Doug Drown wrote: > WPTR became the Capital District's ABC affiliate in the mid-'50s, as > you attest, but by the time I started listening to Top 40 it was > independent. WOKO had left Mutual and had gone to ABC. WPTR rejoined > ABC --- American Contemporary Radio, more properly --- around 1968 > when the old network was split into thirds. We moved from Albany to Bedford, MA in May 1957. Sometime that fall I discovered that I could hear WPTR at night in Bedford. By that time, they had adopted a new top-40 format similar to WMEX, complete with "The New WPTR" and "color radio" slogans, and had ditched ABC. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Aug 2 00:28:38 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:28:38 -0400 Subject: Gr. Media Press release In-Reply-To: <003501c6b599$42f034e0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <44CFF1B6.10529.51240E@localhost> On 1 Aug 2006 at 14:35, Don A. wrote: > Speculating... > > 1.) Boston is the headquarters of Greater Media, they don't want to > sow seeds of disconcert in their own back yard....possibly damaging > the reputation of the other Boston stations in Gr. Media's portfolio? > > 2.) Smythe makes his home in Boston. While he does his CEO > hobbnobbing at all the mucky-muck coctail parties...do you think he or > his family wants to be contantly asked, "Are you the guys that killed > Classical music in Boston?" He might not get invited to too many more > cocktail parties. ;-) > > 3.) Dealing with the Jones trust in as neat a way as possible. (WCRB > will now *continues* to program classical music in Boston as the trust > stipulates, since Nassau bought the intellectual rights, etc......it's > simply now on 99.5.) > > 4.) Maybe they learned their lesson when the killed the Clasical > format in other cities. The damage is measured in more than dollars > and ratings. Also in reputation. Any one of these makes sense. And since I've always wondered about the Jones Trust and how that would go down, that could very easily be the main reason for it -- as well as the reason this deal has taken so long. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From edward_cochran@msn.com Wed Aug 2 05:53:08 2006 From: edward_cochran@msn.com (EDWARD COCHRAN) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:53:08 -0400 Subject: Bruce Bradley (was: Dick Summer reveals) Message-ID: Looking forward to the next installment of the Bruce Bradley saga. Thanks, Ed Cochran > >A buddy of mine communicates occasionally with BB. i forwarded some >comments peoplke were making on the list and he send these observations >about his time in Albany: > >"Here's a quick summation of my experiences in New York State's fabled .....but right now I need to run a few errands >before the sun melts me down to a senile nub. From elipolo@earthlink.net Wed Aug 2 12:40:40 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:40:40 -0400 Subject: 99.5 WCRB in Boston? Hardly Message-ID: > > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > CC: boston Radio Interest > > To: "Stephanie Weil" > Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:52:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: 99.5 WCRB in Boston? Hardly > > To the contrary, in my office in Government Center, I have a lot of > trouble picking up WCRB at 102.5. I use a rabbit-ears antenna, and > I am constantly repositioning it and changing the setting on the > antenna dial (BTW, can one of the techies on this list explain just > what that multi-position switch on the bottom of a rabbit-ears > antenna actually does?). It may do a number of things including shutting off one arm of the rabbit-ears or the other, and/or sending the signal through attenuating resistors installed in the base of the antenna, or a combination of both. There is always at least one position that feeds the signal straight through from both arms with no attenuation as if there was no switch at all, which is the most sensitive, but is not necessarily the best for areas with strong transmitters nearby, or areas where the environment causes multipath distortion. EP From readaaron@friedbagels.com Wed Aug 2 11:48:18 2006 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:48:18 -0400 Subject: WBUR HD2, put the student station (WTBU) on the HD2 (was Re: WBUR on HD ???) Message-ID: <44D0C942.1000808@friedbagels.com> Peter, you know I'm a diehard WTBU alum, and you know I love the way you think...but you can't be serious! :-) Have you ever LISTENED to WTBU? There's a reason why it's Part 15/webcast only...it's mighty unprofessional. Of course, a large part of the reason why it's so unprofessional is because the kids know full well that nobody's listening; it's a vicious circle. But a lot of the DJ's on WMBR and WZBC (and WERS for that matter) are unprofessional, too...and they're on major signals. Regardless, WBUR - who's sunk many tens of thousands (nay, 100's of thousands) of dollars into HD Radio lately - is not going to just summarily hand over a valuable HD-2 channel to a "bunch of snot-nosed punk kids". Overlooking the loss of value, there's also the issue of responsibility; WBUR is responsible for everything on their signal...including HD-2, HD-3, etc channels. So if a WTBU kid were to swear up a storm one day...WBUR would be held liable. At $325k a cuss word, I don't think that's an attractive proposition to WBUR! All this said, what I *wouldn't* mind seeing is WTBU become an HD-2 channel but also see WTBU absorbed more into WBUR as a joint operation between WBUR and BU's College of Communication's broadcast journalism department. That dep't is a very good one; the professors are good and many of the students have some real talent. Make the HD-2 (or maybe HD-3) channel a more "experimental" one where the stated goal is to provide a forum for new talent and new ideas (both music and news). Get the folks at PRX involved, too...hell, they're just across the river in Harvard Square. A lot of it will end up not appealing to stodgy WBUR listeners, but I'd wager it WILL appeal to a new niche demo, and who knows? The next "This American Life with Ira Glass" could come out of this idea. Only takes one of those to make up for a 100 other failed attempts, ya know? It's sort of like creating a farm system in baseball...get the kids started in the minor leagues, and as they get better, bring 'em up to the majors (WBUR's main channel). Alas, I fear that the suits are so conservative they'd never be comfortable "letting go" enough for something like this to happen. Plus there is the issue that the "major league" isn't profitable enough to justify the high cost of running the "minor league". Not when you consider what a profit center just running two separate "major leagues" could be. -- -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com www.friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02246 Fried Bagels - Broadcast Radio & Web Engineering & Operations Consultant From mailinglists2005@hotmail.com Thu Aug 3 05:38:02 2006 From: mailinglists2005@hotmail.com (Mike Malone) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 05:38:02 -0400 Subject: WESO Tower blown down Message-ID: According to this article in the Worcester Telegram the tower for WESO in Southbridge blew down during last night's t-storms. http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060803/NEWS/608030552/1 007/NEWS05 Mike Malone WDOA Internet Radio http://wdoa.com From rickkelly@gmail.com Thu Aug 3 14:01:16 2006 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:01:16 -0400 Subject: See, it's not that hard to position an AC station Message-ID: <521b7fd10608031101m266580a3td78ac774b8b43f49@mail.gmail.com> Folks might get a kick out of watching this video...be sure to watch all the way to the end.... http://youtube.com/watch?v=VveZdp8OLh0&search=radio%20station -- -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From francini@mac.com Thu Aug 3 14:35:11 2006 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:35:11 -0400 Subject: See, it's not that hard to position an AC station In-Reply-To: <521b7fd10608031101m266580a3td78ac774b8b43f49@mail.gmail.com> References: <521b7fd10608031101m266580a3td78ac774b8b43f49@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Clear Channel (we own everything) Priceless! And that's a great send-up of any number of radio station ads I've seen on Boston TV over the years! j On 3 Aug 2006, at 14:01, Rick Kelly wrote: > Folks might get a kick out of watching this video...be sure to watch > all the way to the end.... > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=VveZdp8OLh0&search=radio%20station > > -- > -Rick Kelly > www.northeastairchecks.com From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Thu Aug 3 18:42:57 2006 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: See, it's not that hard to position an AC station In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060803224257.16295.qmail@web50807.mail.yahoo.com> Oh, my..... yup! This is sooooooo 'stereotypically' TRUE!!! Go to any (and I mean ANY!) city (market) in the country and you'll see the same "Mix" type TV ads with Madonna, Billy Joel, Phil Collins and Mariah Carey promos et.al. John said it perfectly.... "Priceless!". --- John Francini wrote: > Clear Channel (we own everything) > > Priceless! > > And that's a great send-up of any number of radio > station ads I've > seen on Boston TV over the years! > > j > > On 3 Aug 2006, at 14:01, Rick Kelly wrote: > > > Folks might get a kick out of watching this > video...be sure to watch > > all the way to the end.... > > > > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=VveZdp8OLh0&search=radio%20station > > > > -- > > -Rick Kelly > > www.northeastairchecks.com > > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Aug 3 19:24:38 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:24:38 -0400 Subject: See, it's not that hard to position an AC station In-Reply-To: <20060803224257.16295.qmail@web50807.mail.yahoo.com> References: Message-ID: <44D24D76.24295.1FC0AF@localhost> On 3 Aug 2006 at 15:42, Peter Q. George wrote: > Oh, my..... yup! This is sooooooo 'stereotypically' > TRUE!!! Go to any (and I mean ANY!) city (market) in > the country and you'll see the same "Mix" type TV ads > with Madonna, Billy Joel, Phil Collins and Mariah > Carey promos et.al. John said it perfectly.... > "Priceless!". Unfortunately, WCRB has been trying to follow the same formula. And despite my joy at having WCRB continue on 99.5, I really wish they wouldn't keep playing certain things over and over. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lglavin@mail.com Sat Aug 5 16:07:18 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:07:18 -0500 Subject: Feeble Signals Message-ID: <20060805200718.679431024D@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> I don't know if it's due to the heat this past week, but two AM stations this morning were much weaker than usual, and one still is. First, Nashua's WGAM-AM 900 was transmitting a very weak but unmodulated carrier util the afternoon (WKBR-AM 1250 in Manchester was ok). (It certainly helped WAMG-890, but I don't think it will affect their skimpy ratings!). And old buddy Bob bitner's WJIB-AM 740 seemed either to be running its nighttime flea power, or the mighty 250-watt main transmitter is not running at full capacity. As of 4:00 pm Saturday, WJIB is still much weaker than normal. If LTAR were still on, people might have had to travel to Fresh Pond to hear it. LG -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Aug 7 12:09:15 2006 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 09:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Feeble Signals In-Reply-To: <20060805200718.679431024D@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20060807160915.45025.qmail@web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> WGAM 900 had been off the air since Friday evening. Coming on occasionally for short periods and then back off. WSMN 1590 was off for short periods of time. (They're duplexed). I believe they had some semi-catastrophic failure Friday afternoon around 1:30pm. John B Derry From markwa1ion@aol.com Mon Aug 7 21:08:52 2006 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:08:52 -0400 Subject: survey chart collectors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C8889E58C12945-B50-D199@FWM-R03.sysops.aol.com> Just a quick message to ask if anyone on the list collects survey charts, specifically 1958-1968 era ones. A friend of mine was connected with Worcester's WORC-1310 then, has a fair amount of their charts, but wishes to complete his collection. Also I'd like to increase my own collection of Boston-area '60s charts: WCOP, WMEX, WBZ, WHIL, WRKO, etc. Please state what your available charts are and what you'd charge for originals or for photocopies. Mark Connelly - Billerica, MA ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. From lglavin@mail.com Tue Aug 8 14:37:49 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:37:49 -0500 Subject: Howard Stern Over WMBR Message-ID: <20060808183749.BD00C1024D@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> I had heard stories about people picking up Howard Stern over standard FM in the 88.1 - 91.9 range, so I thought I'd try it. It didn't take long... I heard the show at 88.1 while driving the Andover-to-Wilmington stretch of route 93 at about 6:30 this morning. Nothing controversial or licentious was going on...they were making fun of FOX News Channel anchor John Gibson (the infinitely more talented Stephanie Miller does that every week) during the portion I heard before it faded out. Then: nothing. I expected WMBR to come in, but I guess during the summer they don't broadcast 24/7. BTW, I was doing a little FM-dial-sampling because it appears that UMass Lowell's WUML no long carries Chris Lydon's "Open Source" at 6:00 am even though it's still on the schedule at the WUML website. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From francini@mac.com Tue Aug 8 14:50:42 2006 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:50:42 -0400 Subject: Howard Stern Over WMBR In-Reply-To: <20060808183749.BD00C1024D@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060808183749.BD00C1024D@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <008A13D8-39C0-4A00-9C32-D87F82C8466B@mac.com> The only way this happens is if someone's satellite receiver-to-FM converter doohickey is near enough for you to pick it up. Were you on the road? At home? John On 8 Aug 2006, at 14:37, Laurence Glavin wrote: > I had heard stories about people picking up Howard Stern over > standard FM > in the 88.1 - 91.9 range, so I thought I'd try it. It didn't take > long... > I heard the show at 88.1 while driving the Andover-to-Wilmington > stretch > of route 93 at about 6:30 this morning. Nothing controversial or > licentious was going on...they were making fun of FOX News Channel > anchor John Gibson (the infinitely more talented Stephanie Miller > does that every week) during the portion I heard before it faded out. > Then: nothing. I expected WMBR to come in, but I guess during the > summer they don't broadcast 24/7. > BTW, I was doing a little FM-dial-sampling because it appears that > UMass Lowell's WUML no long carries Chris Lydon's "Open Source" > at 6:00 am even though it's still on the schedule at the WUML website. > > > -- > ___________________________________________________ > Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ > > From lglavin@mail.com Tue Aug 8 15:29:22 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:29:22 -0500 Subject: Howard Stern Over WMBR Message-ID: <20060808192922.B93431158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Francini" To: "Laurence Glavin" Subject: Re: Howard Stern Over WMBR Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:50:42 -0400 The only way this happens is if someone's satellite receiver-to-FM converter doohickey is near enough for you to pick it up. Were you on the road? At home? Re-read the following sentence from the original post: On 8 Aug 2006, at 14:37, Laurence Glavin wrote: > I had heard stories about people picking up Howard Stern over standard FM > in the 88.1 - 91.9 range, so I thought I'd try it. It didn't take long... > I heard the show at 88.1 while driving the Andover-to-Wilmington stretch > of route 93 at about 6:30 this morning. > -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From francini@mac.com Tue Aug 8 15:35:04 2006 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 15:35:04 -0400 Subject: Howard Stern Over WMBR In-Reply-To: <20060808192922.B93431158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060808192922.B93431158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: doh! Sorry about that. I think if that happened to me I'd try to start passing cars or dropping back until the offending vehicle went out of range... j On 8 Aug 2006, at 15:29, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Francini" > To: "Laurence Glavin" > Subject: Re: Howard Stern Over WMBR > Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:50:42 -0400 > > > The only way this happens is if someone's satellite receiver-to-FM > converter doohickey is near enough for you to pick it up. Were you > on the road? At home? > > Re-read the following sentence from the original post: > > > On 8 Aug 2006, at 14:37, Laurence Glavin wrote: > >> I had heard stories about people picking up Howard Stern over >> standard FM >> in the 88.1 - 91.9 range, so I thought I'd try it. It didn't take >> long... >> I heard the show at 88.1 while driving the Andover-to-Wilmington >> stretch >> of route 93 at about 6:30 this morning. >> > > -- > ___________________________________________________ > Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ > From bill.smith@comcast.net Wed Aug 9 16:11:59 2006 From: bill.smith@comcast.net (bill.smith@comcast.net) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:11:59 +0000 Subject: Howard Stern Over WMBR Message-ID: <080920062011.12952.44DA418F000AFEB6000032982213528573089B07039CD20404070D@comcast.net> Perhaps Technology Broadcasting Corporation President Todd Glickman should negotiate restitution in the form of thousands of dollars in new equipment, as in the TBS deal. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Aug 10 13:40:10 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:40:10 -0400 Subject: Howard Stern Over WMBR In-Reply-To: References: <20060808192922.B93431158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608101040idc1080m67144b1aa2139210@mail.gmail.com> This morning on I-91 just outside of Chicopee I heard what sounded like Opie and Anthony on 87.9 FM. There was a truck near me and I slowed down and noticed the signal fading as the truck went past me. More than a bit of profanity of course. Hey, it's satellite radio, this stuff isn't going out on broadcast! Well, it isn't unless you're next to a car with a mini-FM transmitter... From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu Aug 10 14:57:17 2006 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:57:17 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Howard Stern Over WMBR Message-ID: <28887520.1155236237775.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Todd Glickman stepped down a couple of years ago as president of WMBR's license holding board The Technology Broadcasting Corporation (which, as everything is at WMBR, is all-volunteer). He was replaced by board member and former WMBR General Manager, Technical Director and Chief Engineer (at different times) Henry Holtzman (MIT '91). Todd maintains a position on the board. Henry is well aware of the problem due to listener interference complaints to WMBR as well as discussion of the problem in the industry among other non-comm's at 88.1 nationwide, and he has been discussing the problem with the stations FCC attorney, however at this point his position is to wait and see what kind of resolutions that more powerful agencies such as NPR work out about the problem, which is also affecting many of their stations which are also at 88.1 in other areas nationwide. Also, my understanding is that the money from the Ted Turner WTBS/WMBR deal in 1979 didn't actually result in all that much new equipment for the station at the time. It mainly resulted in the new transmitter which enabled the power increase from 20 watts to 200 watts (now 720 watts), and replenishing operating funds that were exhausted from the legal battle for approval for that power increase. The studios were still stuck with early 60's era homemade (mono) equipment. WMBR conducted it's first ever on-air pledge drive week in 1983, which since became an annual fall event. Listener donations from the fundraisers then enabled studio upgrades and modernization later in the 1980's (not to mention station-wide air conditioning, finally, in 2004). EP > > From: bill.smith@comcast.net > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:11:59 +0000 > Subject: Howard Stern Over WMBR > > Perhaps Technology Broadcasting Corporation President Todd > Glickman should negotiate restitution in the form of thousands > of dollars in new equipment, as in the TBS deal. From radio88@radio88.net Thu Aug 10 17:33:06 2006 From: radio88@radio88.net (Todd Glickman) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:33:06 -0400 Subject: Howard Stern over WMBR Message-ID: >Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:11:59 +0000 >From: bill.smith@comcast.net >Subject: Howard Stern Over WMBR >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > >Perhaps Technology Broadcasting Corporation President Todd Glickman >should negotiate restitution in the form of thousands of dollars in >new equipment, as in the TBS deal. Good idea, Bill :-) In fact, our broadcast attorney in DC is all over this. It's the same attorney who helped us broker the Ted Turner deal back in 1979. By the way, I stepped down as WMBR/Technology Broadcasting Corporation president two years ago -- though I'm still on the board and serve as Clerk. My long-time colleague Henry Holtzman has taken the helm and is providing super leadership. --From the WCAP Weather Center... (oops, that was decades ago!) -- Todd Glickman Associate Director, Office of Corporate Relations Massachusetts Institute of Technology, E38-400 77 Massachusetts Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139 Email: glickman@mit.edu Phone: (617) 452-2457 Certified Broadcast Meteorologist WCBS Newsradio-880 New York City, NY Email: radio88@radio88.net From lglavin@mail.com Fri Aug 11 15:42:43 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:42:43 -0500 Subject: Going Against Type In Pittsburgh Message-ID: <20060811194243.58B171158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Pittsburgh's Arts and Culture station really IS an Arts and Culture station, unlike Boston's WGBH-FM...and intends to become even more so. By going against the NPR-as-news-and-talk-only grain, WQED is actually INCREASING the amount of music on its outlet. Read all about it at: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06224/712672-80.stm -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From lglavin@mail.com Fri Aug 11 15:47:05 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:47:05 -0500 Subject: "Going Against Type In Pittsburgh" Fix Message-ID: <20060811194705.DE26D1158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Ooops...try this URL: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06223/712672-80.stm -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From lglavin@mail.com Fri Aug 11 15:55:11 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:55:11 -0500 Subject: "Going Against Type In Pittsburgh" Fix Message-ID: <20060811195511.E3C1B1158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> Oooops...one number off in previous URL; try this: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06223/712672-80.stm -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Aug 13 08:12:04 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 08:12:04 -0400 Subject: KING (FM) Message-ID: <000a01c6bed1$b6fcc920$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Mr Gavin, in his frequent diatribes against WCRB, likes to cite KING 98.1 as an exemplar of a good commercial classical-music station. I just returned from a week in Seattle and in my rented car, I listened almost exclusively to KING. (I could not pick up KING on the little clock radio in my hotel room not far from the Space needle, so I listened mainly to NPR news and talk on KUOW-FM 94.9 there. Apparently because of multi-path, reception of FMs licensed to Seattle wasn't great where I visited--on Harbor Blvd in West Seattle--on what appeared to be a decent radio in my rented Hyundai Accent.) I don't have Mr Glavin's refined (some--including me--would say boorish) taste, but, in many hours of listening to KING, I didn't notice much difference between it and WCRB (FM). I heard NO vocal selections on KING. I DID notice one complete symphony (Schubert's second). The music on KING was very pleasant, but then, so is the music on WCRB. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From hishaun@hotmail.com Fri Aug 11 14:54:39 2006 From: hishaun@hotmail.com (Shaun Hayes) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:54:39 -0400 Subject: Opie and Anthony on 87.9 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Do XM and Serius provide transmitters that operate on this frequency? Or was it an after-market device? It's hard to believe statellite broadcasters would court FCC displeasure with this sort of out-of-band activity. >From Part 15: Subpart C_Intentional Radiators Sec. 15.239 Operation in the band 88-108 MHz. (a) Emissions from the intentional radiator shall be confined within a band 200 kHz wide centered on the operating frequency. The 200 kHz band shall lie wholly within the frequency range of 88-108 MHz. >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: "John Francini" >,boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Howard Stern Over WMBR >Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:40:10 -0400 >This morning on I-91 just outside of Chicopee I heard what sounded >like Opie and Anthony on 87.9 FM. There was a truck near me and I >slowed down and noticed the signal fading as the truck went past me. >More than a bit of profanity of course. Hey, it's satellite radio, >this stuff isn't going out on broadcast! Well, it isn't unless you're >next to a car with a mini-FM transmitter... > From lwalus@cheerful.com Sun Aug 13 16:17:13 2006 From: lwalus@cheerful.com (Lee Walus) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:17:13 +0500 Subject: Antenna array Message-ID: <20060813201714.1136B83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Does anyone here know anything about the antenna array which is situated in the woods on the Acton-Concord line just west of the prison and north of route 2? From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Aug 13 21:39:41 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:39:41 -0400 Subject: WCRB Message-ID: <44DF9C1D.25816.72BAE7@localhost> I said awhile ago that if I tried to get WCRB on a Walkman, I'd report on how it went. I tried. It was difficult. I had to set the Walkman for local reception, rather than DX reception. And I had to turn the dial carefully and try several times before I found WCRB. The reception is fine, but it's hard to find, at least on an analog Walkman. I assume it might be easier with a digital Walkman. On a trip to Western Massachusetts today, I noted that the present WCRB signal reaches out to Worcester or thereabouts. I think I remember once picking it up in Chicopee on my car radio. So I tried the WKLB 99.5 signal. I could hear that in Worcester, but not at a quality that most people would want to listen to. I suppose that is the audience that WCRB will lose on 99.5. Downtown Boston reception will probably be better without all the images that prevail at 102.5. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Aug 13 21:41:17 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:41:17 -0400 Subject: Opie and Anthony on 87.9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608131841t325311eesa3e3bb5e3ad44dcf@mail.gmail.com> On 8/11/06, Shaun Hayes wrote: > Do XM and Serius provide transmitters that operate on this frequency? > Or was it an after-market device? Who knows...I have a couple Belkin FM re-transmitters. One does 88.1, 88.3, 88.5, and 88.7 only while the other (which doesn't work too well because I dropped it a few times!) works from 88.1 to 107.9, but NOT after or before those frequencies. Whether XM or Sirius makes some that go below 88.1, I don't know. While up in Vermont (Winooski to be exact) I was stopped at a light and spun the dial a bit--someone was rebroadcasting ESPN Radio via XM (there were XM promos) on 88.5...once again, when the nearby car moved bit further away, I lost the signal. I actually had the Belkin device with me and did an experiment: got out of car and walked around with a portable tape deck, and a small Walkman. It was tough to broadcast on those frequencies, as there was already an NPR-type station on 88.1; 88.7 was WWPV from nearby St. Michael's, and 88.3 was WXLU from Peru, NY...88.5 was the only one the really worked for me and even that was tough to do. So you have a device which only offers 4 possible frequencies are 3 are already being used... A page on radio-locator.com has a search for "open FM frequencies": "Do you have a satellite radio or MP3 player that transmits sound to your car radio or home stereo? There are many great audio gadgets available today that include a small FM transmitter and work by sending a signal to any nearby radio that's tuned to its frequency....You can use this page to find vacant frequencies in your area that are best suited for use with your audio device." Using the search I typed in Beverly, MA's ZIP code and found that 87.9, 96.3, 97.9, and 101.3 were best bets. Others, like 90.1 and 89.3, were also named. "Before transmitting on an FM frequency, always check to see if the channel is truly vacant by listening with an FM radio." From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Aug 13 21:39:42 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:39:42 -0400 Subject: WHMP Message-ID: <44DF9C1E.16705.72BB78@localhost> Last year I think it was mentioned that WHMP was running both conservative and liberal talk shows. I noticed this weekend that it seems to have become a full-time progressive talk station (except when it's carrying the Red Sox). However, they have someone else during the noon to three hour and run Al Franken at 6 PM. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Aug 13 21:46:42 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:46:42 -0400 Subject: WHMP In-Reply-To: <44DF9C1E.16705.72BB78@localhost> References: <44DF9C1E.16705.72BB78@localhost> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608131846h4eff657bmbdd5948034cd5d55@mail.gmail.com> On 8/13/06, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > Last year I think it was mentioned that WHMP was running both > conservative and liberal talk shows. WHMP also broadcasts on 1240 (out of Greenfield) and 1600 (E. Longmeadow). Noticed it while in Western Mass. 12-3 pm is Thom Hartmann who some consider the successor to Franken though according to their site Franken is run at 6 pm. (whmp.com). The 1240 in Springfield (once WHAI) has run the Sox for years. From scott@fybush.com Sun Aug 13 21:51:43 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:51:43 -0400 Subject: Opie and Anthony on 87.9 In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0608131841t325311eesa3e3bb5e3ad44dcf@mail.gmail.com> References: clamav-milter version 0.88.3 on rolinin.bostonradio.org <1fbbbced0608131841t325311eesa3e3bb5e3ad44dcf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44DFD72F.3040401@fybush.com> Bob Nelson wrote: > While up in Vermont (Winooski to be exact) I was stopped at a light > and spun the dial a bit--someone was > rebroadcasting ESPN Radio via XM (there were XM promos) on 88.5...once > again, > when the nearby car moved bit further away, I lost the signal. > > I actually had the Belkin device with me and did an experiment: got > out of car and walked around with a portable tape deck, and a small > Walkman. It was tough to broadcast on those frequencies, as there was > already an NPR-type station on 88.1; 88.7 was WWPV > from nearby St. Michael's, and 88.3 was WXLU from Peru, NY... WXLU moved from 88.3 to 88.1 last month, and was almost surely the "NPR-type" station you were hearing on that frequency. s From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Aug 13 22:09:08 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:09:08 -0400 Subject: Antenna array References: <20060813201714.1136B83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <001c01c6bf46$aa1ed0c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> WBNW 1120, 5 kW-D (all four towers)/1 kW-N (three towers--the north tower is not used at night) DA-2. The day pattern is a modified figure eight with axis running west-northwest to east-southeast. Major protection is to 1110 in Salem NH. The night pattern is a modified cardioid directed due east. Major protection is to KMOX. The towers are just under 200' high and hence are not illuminated. The site is part of a Superfund hazardous-waste site--possibly related to Nuclear Metals Corp, whose facility is not far away across Route 62. The array was built in 1989. WBNW signed on (as WADN) on 8/28/1989. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Walus" To: Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:17 PM Subject: Antenna array > Does anyone here know anything about the antenna array which is situated in the woods on the Acton-Concord line just west of the prison and north of route 2? > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Aug 13 22:29:49 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:29:49 -0400 Subject: WHMP In-Reply-To: <44DF9C1E.16705.72BB78@localhost> References: <44DF9C1E.16705.72BB78@localhost> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060813222649.03a65760@donnahalper.com> At 09:39 PM 8/13/2006, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >Last year I think it was mentioned that WHMP was running both >conservative and liberal talk shows. I noticed this weekend that it >seems to have become a full-time progressive talk station (except >when it's carrying the Red Sox). However, they have someone else >during the noon to three hour and run Al Franken at 6 PM. They used to carry Franken live, but sometime this past spring, they began carrying the Thom Hartmann show, so they delay Franken's show. I have no idea why they did that. And nobody in western Mass seems to carry Ed Schultz or Stephanie Miller-- a small station outside of Springfield was supposed to, but I am not sure that ever happened. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Aug 14 10:32:05 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:32:05 -0400 Subject: WHMP In-Reply-To: <44DFAC0B.32122.B0F726@localhost> References: <44DF9C1E.16705.72BB78@localhost> <1fbbbced0608131846h4eff657bmbdd5948034cd5d55@mail.gmail.com> <44DFAC0B.32122.B0F726@localhost> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608140732p5d5f0c64m5325f3a780a7d467@mail.gmail.com> > You mean Greenfield, of course. So has WHMP. Ah yes--and note that I did say "Greenfield" earlier in the message. > Last I heard, the WHAI call letters were still on WHAI-FM, though I > didn't check them out. According to their site, whai.com, 98.3 WHAI is now "The Valley's Best Variety" From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Aug 14 10:35:02 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:35:02 -0400 Subject: Opie and Anthony on 87.9 In-Reply-To: <44DFD72F.3040401@fybush.com> References: <1fbbbced0608131841t325311eesa3e3bb5e3ad44dcf@mail.gmail.com> <44DFD72F.3040401@fybush.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608140735v187f4b7bj992f629d33473388@mail.gmail.com> On 8/13/06, Scott Fybush wrote: > WXLU moved from 88.3 to 88.1 last month, and was almost surely the > "NPR-type" station you were hearing on that frequency. Oh, OK! Yes, I noticed the 88.1 was kind of strong...thought I was picking up something at 88.3 as well but maybe not...was just in car spinning the dial while at a red light and that's when I noticed the ESPN Sports on 88.5 from someone else's car. Not sure why this person needed the XM to hear Mike and Mike, as WTWK 1070 came in strong in the area and was probably carrying them too (website says they do) From brian_vita@cssinc.com Mon Aug 14 13:23:50 2006 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:23:50 -0700 Subject: Opie and Anthony on 87.9 In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0608140735v187f4b7bj992f629d33473388@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601c6bfc6$6cf4a500$4468d746@BrianVaio> > Oh, OK! Yes, I noticed the 88.1 was kind of strong...thought I was > picking up something at 88.3 as well but maybe not...was just in car > spinning the dial while at a red light and that's > when I noticed the ESPN Sports on 88.5 from someone else's car. Not > sure why this person needed the XM to hear Mike and Mike, as WTWK > 1070 came in strong in the area and > was probably carrying them too (website says they do) [Brian Vita] Simple answer - better sound quality and coverage. Frequently I'll be listening to a talk program that's also covered by terrestrial radio in the market that I'm in. The sound quality of the signal on XM is much cleaner that what I'm picking up from AMxxxx. I'm also subject to cleaner dropouts (no buzz or fade, just no signal)and less interference from other sources. Brian From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Mon Aug 14 15:35:14 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:35:14 -0400 Subject: WBZ Abberation? Message-ID: <200608141535.AA3606970570@mail.ttlc.net> Today, I tuned in to WBZ (AM-1030) at 12:23 - after the traffic report, the announcer (Carl Stevens) chatted with the traffic guy, did a WX recap and went directly to another story - no spot(s). I tuned out for a minute to receive a call and when I rejoined there was sports finishing up at 12:27 - followed by another news story, a Bern-Phyl "do you know where your children are?" and finally a commercial and BOH ID. Regular format resumed Anybody know what would have knocked the format out of whack? From lglavin@mail.com Mon Aug 14 17:02:57 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:02:57 -0500 Subject: WCRB Message-ID: <20060814210257.44E5A1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> ---- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: WCRB Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:39:41 -0400 Downtown Boston reception will probably be better without all the images that prevail at 102.5. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com That's strange...WCRB never programs Debussy's "Images pour Orchestre". -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From madprof@ix.netcom.com Mon Aug 14 17:09:47 2006 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:09:47 -0400 Subject: Antenna array References: <20060813201714.1136B83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <002301c6bfe5$fa1f2940$80e79a04@p133> I suspect you mean the field of many towers (I counted 14) (viewed from hill north of 2A, north of former theater). Some local folks (I have asked many) seem to agree that it was built by a ham radio operator, and is no longer active. I have not been able to learn the owners name, or any way to contact. It does appear capable of a tight beam, varible aim. In my curiosity over the years, I scouted the site from Rt2, 2A, and Horseshoe Drive (very near array's northwest tip) Specifically I observed the site center to be just west of due north of Rt2 intersection of School Street and Weatherbee St. (slightly west of the barn north of Rt2 with USA flag painted on west side), and southwest in line with the east side of the former theater on 2A (rear of min shopping center near the Minor Chord music store). The theater was about opposite Bershaw Oil (on south side of 2A), which is listed as 94 Great Road. The layout was observed as an irregular 2 rows, with Azimuth line about 133 degrees, and estimated center 42:28:31 latitude, 71:24:53 longitude (NAD27) as plotted on via Topozone USGS. If this is too much info, well, I am known for compulsive detail. PS the WBNW 1120 (former WADN) site is off of rt62. Thanks, Dan, I hadn't realized (& should have) the major protection is to KMOX Bob Sutherland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Walus" To: Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:17 PM Subject: Antenna array > Does anyone here know anything about the antenna array which is situated in the woods on the Acton-Concord line just west of the prison and north of route 2? > > From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Mon Aug 14 17:16:09 2006 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:16:09 -0400 Subject: Opie and Anthony on 87.9 References: <1fbbbced0608131841t325311eesa3e3bb5e3ad44dcf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002301c6bfe6$ddf2d4a0$1c994c0c@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Nelson To: Shaun Hayes Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 9:41 PM Subject: Re: Opie and Anthony on 87.9 > On 8/11/06, Shaun Hayes wrote: > > Do XM and Serius provide transmitters that operate on this frequency? > > Or was it an after-market device? > > Who knows...I have a couple Belkin FM re-transmitters. One does 88.1, > 88.3, 88.5, > and 88.7 only while the other (which doesn't work too well because I > dropped it a few > times!) works from 88.1 to 107.9, but NOT after or before those > frequencies. Whether > XM or Sirius makes some that go below 88.1, I don't know. > Sirius has (had?) a unit that transmitted on 87.9. AFAIK, all of XM's units, though too powerful for the FCC's tastes, have 88.1 as their lower limit. Some interesting discussion going on on the various sat-radio fan boards about who might be responsible for the violations, who might have to take the fall, and what penalties XM and Sirius, their hardware partners, and their executives might face. Is it more likely that the manufacturers of the noncompliant equipment "souped up" the transmitters in hopes of impressing the sat-radio execs and figured they could slip the excess radiation past the FCC? Or is it more likely that XM and/or Sirius execs nudged the manufacturers to push the envelope as far as possible? Howard From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 14 17:23:07 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:23:07 -0400 Subject: WCRB In-Reply-To: <20060814210257.44E5A1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <44E0B17B.18568.633EE0@localhost> On 14 Aug 2006 at 16:02, Laurence Glavin wrote: > That's strange...WCRB never programs Debussy's "Images pour > Orchestre". No, but I think they occasionally play "Pictures at an Exhibition." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lglavin@mail.com Mon Aug 14 17:55:14 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:55:14 -0500 Subject: KING (FM) Message-ID: <20060814215514.A8EA01CE305@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "Laurence Glavin" , "Boston Radio Interest" Subject: KING (FM) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 08:12:04 -0400 >Mr Gavin, Gavin went out of business. > in many hours of listening to KING, I didn't notice much >difference between it and WCRB (FM). I heard NO vocal selections on KING. I >DID notice one complete symphony (Schubert's second). The music on KING was >very pleasant, but then, so is the music on WCRB. >-- >Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net >Fax 707-215-6367 Well, you're in no position to perform an INTELLIGENT overview of KING's playlist, so I did it for you and in a single week of programming (Monday August 8th thru yesterday, the 13th, KING-FM's superiority over the current WCRB is abundantly manifest. First, as to vocal music, KING broadcast a complete opera Saturday night (in season it picks up The Met) and therefore gets an oak leaf cluster with brass figligee for that alone. But also Aug 10th, they aired Berlioz' "Te Deum" a choral piece, and on August 11th, Carl Orff's "Carmina Burana", which if you're not familiar with it, is an enormously popular vocal-choral piece that's a bedrock work of the 20th Century (critics of Orff for his "ties" to the Nazi Party to the contrary notwithstanding) and not avant-garde in any sense. (It's been used in TV commercials ever since it entered the public domain, and part of it is used in Sean Hannity's radio show opening.) But to give a further overview of the nature and variety of KING's schedule, here by date, are a few highlights of pieces WCRB hasn't aired outside of Boston Symphony Orchestra broadcasts since Mario Mazza arrived: 8/7: pieces by Bartok, Khachaturian, Louis Moreau Gottschalk (aka the American Chopin...maybe this was the pleasant music you heard), Roy Harris, and some Sibelius other than "Finlandia". 8/8: pieces by Shostakovich, de Falla (so mainstream his portrait appears on Spain's currency), Howard Hanson, Nielsen (there is no composer named Arbitron), and Villa Lobos. A nice touch...rather than over play Debussy's piano piece "Clair de lune" KING played the entire "Suite Bergamasque" of which it is a part...WGBH does that often. 8/9: pieces by Samual Barber (not the "Adagio for Strings"), Benjamin Britten, Ernst von Dohnanyi, Kodaly, Somerville, Mass.-born Alan Hovhaness (his breathtakingly beautiful "Magic Mountain Symphony), oh and Roy Harris again (during this span, KING didn't play enough Copland IMO). 8/10: this date's playlist included a work by a living American composer, John Calvin Adams, a piece by Ernest Chausson and a complete concerto by Glazounov, who is usually represented on WCRB by excerpts from his ballets). 8/11: this was a Saturday, so there was the aforementioned opera and get this: a piece by that ultra-extreme bete noir of 20th-Century composition Anton Webern! Yikes, Calm down..like Schoenberg's "Transfigured Night" and Berg's Violon Concerto, it was an accessible mainstream early piece call "The Summer Wind" (hey didn't the old WJIB-FM play that all the time? Wrong "Summer Wind") 8:/13 a Sunday, lots of really core pieces but played in full including a Beethoven String Quartet from his late period (no not after he died). This was a sampling of the fare in a seven-day period that included many more mainstream 20th-Century compositions, and if I did it again this week, a few missing figures like Stravinsky, Hindemith, William Walton, William Schuman (no relation to German composer Robert Schumann) and the more significant pieces by Copland would appear. Dan, stick to what you know....technical radio stuff.. in this arena, you're the proverbial ghoti out of H2O. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From markwa1ion@aol.com Tue Aug 15 13:35:34 2006 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:35:34 -0400 Subject: Antenna array In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C88EA8594BBC3E-5D8-4639@mblk-r37.sysops.aol.com> The WBNW-1120 site is south of Route 2 (north of Route 62) and somewhat farther west than the one about which Lee Walus asked. The towers in question belong to amateur radio operator W1EVT. Per "http://www.qrz.com/callsign": CLEMENT MORITZ 32 WETHERBEE ST ACTON MA 01720 The story I heard was that he received some financial aid from the government (I think early in the Cold War era) to set up what is known as a Sterba Curtain array that can resolve directional fixes within a few degrees on the HF bands (3 to 30 MHz). Bearings taken would be integrated with those from other stations (including official FCC, NSA, and military facilities) to track Russian boats off the East Coast and any other "transmissions of interest". Whether this is all hamfest folklore or not I'm not sure, but the operator has indeed assembled quite an array that is placed on a slight hilltop (above a grove of pines) overlooking the higher-conductivity Nashoba Brook wetlands to the east. The antennas have been there since at least the mid '60s, maybe earlier. Clem has separate legal-limit transmitters for each of the original HF amateur bands (3.5, 7, 14, 21, and 28 MHz). >From "http://lists.contesting.com/_towertalk/2002-10/msg00283.html": "W1EVT has 19 R25 Towers 140 ft tall sitting on base plates supported by cinderblocks to place each base at the same elevation. There is NO lateral support at the base other than friction on the cinderblocks. These towers have been up for around 40 years that I know of." Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA << I suspect you mean the field of many towers (I counted 14) (viewed from hill north of 2A, north of former theater). Some local folks (I have asked many) seem to agree that it was built by a ham radio operator, and is no longer active. I have not been able to learn the owners name, or any way to contact. It does appear capable of a tight beam, varible aim. In my curiosity over the years, I scouted the site from Rt2, 2A, and Horseshoe Drive (very near array's northwest tip) Specifically I observed the site center to be just west of due north of Rt2 intersection of School Street and Weatherbee St. (slightly west of the barn north of Rt2 with USA flag painted on west side), and southwest in line with the east side of the former theater on 2A (rear of min shopping center near the Minor Chord music store). The theater was about opposite Bershaw Oil (on south side of 2A), which is listed as 94 Great Road. The layout was observed as an irregular 2 rows, with Azimuth line about 133 degrees, and estimated center 42:28:31 latitude, 71:24:53 longitude (NAD27) as plotted on via Topozone USGS. If this is too much info, well, I am known for compulsive detail. PS the WBNW 1120 (former WADN) site is off of rt62. Thanks, Dan, I hadn't realized (& should have) the major protection is to KMOX Bob Sutherland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Walus" To: Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:17 PM Subject: Antenna array > Does anyone here know anything about the antenna array which is situated in the woods on the Acton-Concord line just west of the prison and north of route 2? > >> ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. From markwa1ion@aol.com Tue Aug 15 13:36:49 2006 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:36:49 -0400 Subject: Antenna array In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C88EA885ECF916-5D8-465D@mblk-r37.sysops.aol.com> The WBNW-1120 site is south of Route 2 (north of Route 62) and somewhat farther west than the one about which Lee Walus asked. The towers in question belong to amateur radio operator W1EVT. Per "http://www.qrz.com/callsign": CLEMENT MORITZ 32 WETHERBEE ST ACTON MA 01720 The story I heard was that he received some financial aid from the government (I think early in the Cold War era) to set up what is known as a Sterba Curtain array that can resolve directional fixes within a few degrees on the HF bands (3 to 30 MHz). Bearings taken would be integrated with those from other stations (including official FCC, NSA, and military facilities) to track Russian boats off the East Coast and any other "transmissions of interest". Whether this is all hamfest folklore or not I'm not sure, but the operator has indeed assembled quite an array that is placed on a slight hilltop (above a grove of pines) overlooking the higher-conductivity Nashoba Brook wetlands to the east. The antennas have been there since at least the mid '60s, maybe earlier. Clem has separate legal-limit transmitters for each of the original HF amateur bands (3.5, 7, 14, 21, and 28 MHz). >From "http://lists.contesting.com/_towertalk/2002-10/msg00283.html": "W1EVT has 19 R25 Towers 140 ft tall sitting on base plates supported by cinderblocks to place each base at the same elevation. There is NO lateral support at the base other than friction on the cinderblocks. These towers have been up for around 40 years that I know of." Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA << I suspect you mean the field of many towers (I counted 14) (viewed from hill north of 2A, north of former theater). Some local folks (I have asked many) seem to agree that it was built by a ham radio operator, and is no longer active. I have not been able to learn the owners name, or any way to contact. It does appear capable of a tight beam, varible aim. In my curiosity over the years, I scouted the site from Rt2, 2A, and Horseshoe Drive (very near array's northwest tip) Specifically I observed the site center to be just west of due north of Rt2 intersection of School Street and Weatherbee St. (slightly west of the barn north of Rt2 with USA flag painted on west side), and southwest in line with the east side of the former theater on 2A (rear of min shopping center near the Minor Chord music store). The theater was about opposite Bershaw Oil (on south side of 2A), which is listed as 94 Great Road. The layout was observed as an irregular 2 rows, with Azimuth line about 133 degrees, and estimated center 42:28:31 latitude, 71:24:53 longitude (NAD27) as plotted on via Topozone USGS. If this is too much info, well, I am known for compulsive detail. PS the WBNW 1120 (former WADN) site is off of rt62. Thanks, Dan, I hadn't realized (& should have) the major protection is to KMOX Bob Sutherland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Walus" To: Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:17 PM Subject: Antenna array > Does anyone here know anything about the antenna array which is situated in the woods on the Acton-Concord line just west of the prison and north of route 2? > >> ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. From markwats@comcast.net Tue Aug 15 20:58:38 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:58:38 -0400 Subject: WJAR News Anchor Doug White Has Passed Message-ID: <00ac01c6c0cf$1c4efe20$19b38018@Mark> WJAR (Channel 10 Providence RI) news anchor Doug White passed away today of cancer at the age of 61. Does anyone recall if he was one of the original news anchors on then-WSMW (Channel 27 Worcester) when they signed on in 1970? IIRC he did work there prior to heading to WPRI then WJAR. Here is a link to an article from the Boston Globe's website: http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode_island/articles/2006/08/15/doug_white_longtime_tv_news_anchor_dies_at_61/ Mark Watson From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Aug 16 02:25:40 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 02:25:40 -0400 Subject: Picking up WSMA 90.5 on North Shore Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608152325q232c56c3r8b2c890b3949fac6@mail.gmail.com> Have been noticing a Christian radio station at 90.5 here in Beverly; did a quick search, and it looks like I'm getting WSMA out of Scituate. It was a mixture of Christian contemporary music and preaching. Coverage map: http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WSMA&service=FM&status=L&hours=U >From the Weekly Dig: http://www.weeklydig.com/articles/next_up_a_heapin39_helpin39_of_jesus "Now they're looking to bring the network's "Solid Bible teaching" and "Passionate praise and worship" to Boston's South Shore. CSN has filed an application with the FCC that would turn Plymouth/Scituate-based WSMA (90.5 FM) into a 20,000-watt CSN affiliate....But CSN has a regulatory hurdle to clear before it starts winning converts and uplifting souls here. Under FCC rules, stations in WSMA's frequency range must be locally oriented and non-commercial, and must maintain their main studio in their city of license. CSN has pledged to include some local programming but wants a waiver to broadcast remotely." From marklaurence@mac.com Wed Aug 16 10:03:21 2006 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:03:21 -0400 Subject: WJAR News Anchor Doug White Has Passed In-Reply-To: <00ac01c6c0cf$1c4efe20$19b38018@Mark> References: <00ac01c6c0cf$1c4efe20$19b38018@Mark> Message-ID: <470EE8BE-258C-44C2-98BC-0270E2708216@mac.com> On Aug 15, 2006, at 8:58 PM, Mark Watson wrote: > WJAR (Channel 10 Providence RI) news anchor Doug White passed away > today of cancer at the age of 61. Does anyone recall if he was one > of the original news anchors on then-WSMW (Channel 27 Worcester) > when they signed on in 1970? IIRC he did work there prior to > heading to WPRI then WJAR. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw his obituary in the Globe this morning, but they didn't mention that in the story. Now that you've also mentioned it, I'm sure that's where I remember him, from the early, ambitious days of Channel 27. Mark From revdoug1@verizon.net Wed Aug 16 12:30:34 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:30:34 -0400 Subject: WMTW and WABI Message-ID: <00b701c6c151$4d3839c0$2e01a8c0@pastor2> I've noticed lately that WABI-TV (Channel 5 Bangor), our local CBS affiliate, has begun using southern Maine news actualities from WMTW (Channel 8), the ABC affiliate in Portland. Prior to this summer, WABI had always picked up actualities from fellow-CBS affiliate WGME (Channel 13). It was a practice that went back years and years. Does anyone know why the change has occurred? It seems odd to me that a CBS station would be picking up news from an ABC affiliate when there's a competing CBS affiliate in the same market. -Doug From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Aug 16 10:25:51 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:25:51 -0400 Subject: Picking up WSMA 90.5 on North Shore References: <1fbbbced0608152325q232c56c3r8b2c890b3949fac6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000801c6c15e$7268df80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Scott could tell you more, but I'd be surprised if there is any way they could get 20,000W from Scituate. WBUR is second adjacent and Scituate to Needham is not that far. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 2:25 AM Subject: Picking up WSMA 90.5 on North Shore > Have been noticing a Christian radio station at 90.5 here in Beverly; > did a quick search, and it looks like I'm getting WSMA out of > Scituate. It was a mixture of Christian contemporary music and > preaching. > > Coverage map: http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WSMA&service=FM&status=L&hours=U > > >From the Weekly Dig: > > http://www.weeklydig.com/articles/next_up_a_heapin39_helpin39_of_jesus > > "Now they're looking to bring the network's "Solid Bible > teaching" and "Passionate praise and worship" to > Boston's South Shore. CSN has filed an application with the FCC that > would turn Plymouth/Scituate-based WSMA (90.5 FM) into a 20,000-watt CSN > affiliate....But CSN has a regulatory hurdle to clear before it starts winning > converts and uplifting souls here. Under FCC rules, stations in WSMA's > frequency range must be locally oriented and non-commercial, and must > maintain their main studio in their city of license. CSN has pledged to > include some local programming but wants a waiver to broadcast remotely." From n1qgs@yahoo.com Wed Aug 16 14:07:54 2006 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Hippo Press (NH Weekly Newpaper) Guide to local radio Message-ID: <20060816180754.33696.qmail@web30712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://www.hippopress.com/060810/cover.html The Hippo Press has as their cover story this week a Guide to Local Radio. My review: Fair to yuk! John B Derry NH From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Aug 16 16:26:05 2006 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:26:05 -0400 Subject: Picking up WSMA 90.5 on North Shore In-Reply-To: AAAAANAIlGo8EmdDjxy6C1pkI1jETSQA Message-ID: <004201c6c172$339086a0$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> I believe they're already putting as much power out as they're going to be able to do. That looks like an old article. They run 7700 watts ERP into 4 beam antennas, 2 pointing SW, 2 pointing north. You can see pictures on the fine website: http://www.necrat.com 7700 watts may be equal to 20kW, as it is a Class B1 station, I can't remember what the power level for those is, I'm sure someone on here does. The antennas are vertically polarized, so people with horizontal antennas at home (like me) might not get as good of a signal on the fringes. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan Strassberg Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:26 AM To: Bob Nelson; boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Picking up WSMA 90.5 on North Shore Scott could tell you more, but I'd be surprised if there is any way they could get 20,000W from Scituate. WBUR is second adjacent and Scituate to Needham is not that far. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 2:25 AM Subject: Picking up WSMA 90.5 on North Shore > Have been noticing a Christian radio station at 90.5 here in Beverly; > did a quick search, and it looks like I'm getting WSMA out of > Scituate. It was a mixture of Christian contemporary music and > preaching. > > Coverage map: http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WSMA&service=FM&status=L&hours=U > > >From the Weekly Dig: > > http://www.weeklydig.com/articles/next_up_a_heapin39_helpin39_of_jesus > > "Now they're looking to bring the network's "Solid Bible > teaching" and "Passionate praise and worship" to > Boston's South Shore. CSN has filed an application with the FCC that > would turn Plymouth/Scituate-based WSMA (90.5 FM) into a 20,000-watt CSN > affiliate....But CSN has a regulatory hurdle to clear before it starts winning > converts and uplifting souls here. Under FCC rules, stations in WSMA's > frequency range must be locally oriented and non-commercial, and must > maintain their main studio in their city of license. CSN has pledged to > include some local programming but wants a waiver to broadcast remotely." From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Aug 16 16:37:17 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:37:17 -0400 Subject: Hippo Press (NH Weekly Newpaper) Guide to local radio In-Reply-To: <20060816180754.33696.qmail@web30712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060816180754.33696.qmail@web30712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608161337l209c7448w1e444c64f4678631@mail.gmail.com> > The Hippo Press has as their cover story this week a Guide to Local Radio. > > My review: > > Fair to yuk! >> At night, stations usually broadcast at a lower power because atmospheric conditions allow the signal to go farther. Not on FM :) >>no Keene radio gets out I've picked up some Keene stations in southern VT but of course this article is tailored to readers up in Manchester area, etc. >>WGIR: Weekends include the Red Sox. I'd think they carry the weekday/weeknight games, too... >>WAAF is the second most listened-to station in Hillsborough County Not bad for a station from Worcester! From revdoug1@verizon.net Wed Aug 16 16:40:04 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:40:04 -0400 Subject: Hippo Press (NH Weekly Newpaper) Guide to local radio References: <20060816180754.33696.qmail@web30712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00df01c6c174$27fbfa70$2e01a8c0@pastor2> I live in central Maine and don't know all the stations described, but I'd be generous and give them an A+ for effort. How many other newspapers have ever come forth with info. this thorough on local radio? Most --- whether daily, weekly or otherwise --- don't even list radio stations anymore. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Hippo Press (NH Weekly Newpaper) Guide to local radio > http://www.hippopress.com/060810/cover.html > > The Hippo Press has as their cover story this week a Guide to Local Radio. > > My review: > > Fair to yuk! > > John B > Derry NH > From lglavin@mail.com Wed Aug 16 18:37:12 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:37:12 -0500 Subject: Hippo Press (NH Weekly Newpaper) Guide to local radio Message-ID: <20060816223713.1F7941024D@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Hippo Press (NH Weekly Newpaper) Guide to local radio Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:07:54 -0700 (PDT) http://www.hippopress.com/060810/cover.html The Hippo Press has as their cover story this week a Guide to Local Radio. My review: Fair to yuk! John B Derry NH A few strange ommissions: on FM, no listing for WMKK 93.7 and WCRB 102.5 (no I didn't help edit the piece); on AM, WCAP 980 Lowell not included, but they DID include WBIX! Duh. This is news to me..."all radio stations announce their call letters five minutes before and five minutes after the hour". WNNW-AM 800 bills itself as Boston's only Hispanic radio station? Even with it new daytime power, there must several parts of the rapidly depopulating Hub that can't get it...and between them, WRCA and WUNR appear to provide full-time programming en Espanol (maybe other languages on weekends). WMJX-FM ranked 15th in Boston? Don't let Don Kelley see it... est probably didn't prepare him for that! -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From radiotony@comcast.net Wed Aug 16 21:32:58 2006 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:32:58 -0400 Subject: Hippo Press (NH Weekly Newpaper) Guide to local radio In-Reply-To: <20060816223713.1F7941024D@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <200608170206.k7H26scb070792@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Amy Diaz did this piece. She does really amusing movie reviews. However, thou must protest that she considers Boston stations "local" to Concord, Manchester, and Nashua. She could have done the communities a service and listed local radio stations and done more than just list a paragraph for each station. It would have made for a better article. Best, Tony Anthony Schinella CEO/PD/A&E, WKXL 1450, Concord, NH Online @ http://www.wkxl1450.com Blog @ http://politizine.blogspot.com WKXL: Winner of 6 N.H. Association of Broadcaster Golden Mike Awards [10/2005]; 3 N.H. Associated Press Broadcast Association Awards [04/2006]; and Best of New Hampshire Magazine 2006, Extreme Local Radio Station [06/2006]. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Laurence Glavin Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:37 PM To: John Bolduc; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Hippo Press (NH Weekly Newpaper) Guide to local radio ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Hippo Press (NH Weekly Newpaper) Guide to local radio Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:07:54 -0700 (PDT) http://www.hippopress.com/060810/cover.html The Hippo Press has as their cover story this week a Guide to Local Radio. My review: Fair to yuk! John B Derry NH A few strange ommissions: on FM, no listing for WMKK 93.7 and WCRB 102.5 (no I didn't help edit the piece); on AM, WCAP 980 Lowell not included, but they DID include WBIX! Duh. This is news to me..."all radio stations announce their call letters five minutes before and five minutes after the hour". WNNW-AM 800 bills itself as Boston's only Hispanic radio station? Even with it new daytime power, there must several parts of the rapidly depopulating Hub that can't get it...and between them, WRCA and WUNR appear to provide full-time programming en Espanol (maybe other languages on weekends). WMJX-FM ranked 15th in Boston? Don't let Don Kelley see it... est probably didn't prepare him for that! -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Aug 17 00:29:03 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:29:03 -0400 Subject: Hippo Press (NH Weekly Newpaper) Guide to local radio Message-ID: <200608170029.AA80937240@mail.ttlc.net> John Bolduc wrote: >http://www.hippopress.com/060810/cover.html >The Hippo Press has as their cover story this week a Guide to Local >Radio. My review: Fair to yuk! I like the "clamps & things" attached to the tower to modify the pattern. Yup! From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Aug 17 10:20:39 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: Sports, Air America switcheroo in Vermont Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608170720j3edd4eddo753780e5a544bb5@mail.gmail.com> Burlington Free Press reports that WVAA 1390 in Burlington, currently Air America, will switch to ESPN as WCAT this Monday. Prog. talk moves to where ESPN currently is, WTWK 1070. This also means prog.talk will end at sunset...(previously, AAR had been on the daytimer 1070 and was switched to 1390, but now they're back to the previous freq) http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060817/SPORTS/608170317/1002&theme= "Beginning Monday, the national feed for ESPN Radio will be heard locally on AM 1390, a South Burlington station that is switching its call letters from WVAA to WCAT, according to Rich De- Lancy, the market manager for Champlain Radio Group, which owns the station. "ESPN Radio has been available in the area on WTWK-AM (1070) in South Burlington, which is restricted to broadcasting only sunrise to sunset under its radio license from the Federal Communications Commission. Air America, the talk show programming on WVAA, will move down the dial to WTWK, which also is owned by Champlain Radio. The programming will be trimmed to sunrise to sunset on the 5,000-watt station, DeLancy said." From ssmyth@suscom.net Thu Aug 17 10:42:22 2006 From: ssmyth@suscom.net (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:42:22 -0400 Subject: Hippo Press (NH Weekly Newpaper) Guide to local radio In-Reply-To: <200608170029.AA80937240@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200608170029.AA80937240@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:29:03 -0400 "rogerkirk" wrote: >I like the "clamps & things" attached to the tower to modify >the pattern. Yup! I don't see a problem wording it this way. She's not writing for us radio geeks/professionals; she's writing for the person who couldn't tell you the difference between frequency modulation and amplitude modulation, even if you spotted them the first letter of each word. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Thu Aug 17 16:02:12 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:02:12 -0400 Subject: KZLA Gets 'Movin'" With Dees Message-ID: <08af01c6c238$09635620$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Gee, I wonder if this is considered a cut in pay...? ;-) I can't assume that he will ever get the same audience he did on KIIS in LA. But then again, new format launches sometimes make a splash when the come out of the gate. I'm sure he'd love to put a dent in Seacrest's show. Don ----------------------------------------- This morning Emmis detonated Country on KZLA/Los Angeles and installed consultant Alan Burns' Rhythmic AC format known as "Movin'" in its place. Market legend Rick Dees signs on to do mornings on the new station, which is calling itself "Movin' 93.9, The Mix That Makes You Move." It's Dees' triumphant return to the Los Angeles airwaves, following his March 2004 exit from mornings at crosstown KIIS, where he ruled for more than 20 years. From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Aug 17 17:34:46 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:34:46 -0400 Subject: Now that CDBS is finally working again.... Message-ID: <17636.57590.393812.732520@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> You, too, can review the contract for the exchange of WCRB and WKLB-FM, but here are the highlights: - Nassau gets the intellectual property, real property, plant and equipment, and contracts of WCRB, and leases Greater's Andover tower. WCRB owns an acre at 750 South Street. - Greater gets the assets of WTHK, including a to-be-executed lease on the Wyndmoor tower. - In addition, Greater pays Nassau $26,000,000. This is all fairly standard for a "like-kind asset exchange" transition, which is what they're trying to achieve for tax purposes. However, there is also an alternative formulation, if the closing has not taken place on time and certain other conditions are met, by which Greater agrees to pay Nassau $87,000,000 cash for WTHK. -GAWollman From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Aug 17 17:36:40 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:36:40 -0400 Subject: Now that CDBS is finally working again.... In-Reply-To: <17636.57590.393812.732520@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <17636.57590.393812.732520@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <17636.57704.678604.608751@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < - Nassau gets the intellectual property, real property, plant and > equipment, and contracts of WCRB, and leases Greater's Andover tower. > WCRB owns an acre at 750 South Street. I wrote that slightly incorrectly. They get the real property and equipment of WCRB, but the transmitter plant of WKLB-FM, of course. -GAWollman From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Aug 17 17:40:27 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:40:27 -0400 Subject: Now that CDBS is finally working again.... In-Reply-To: <17636.57590.393812.732520@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <17636.57590.393812.732520@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <17636.57931.765568.996619@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < - In addition, Greater pays Nassau $26,000,000. > Greater agrees to pay Nassau $87,000,000 cash for WTHK [alone]. So from this, we can compute that the WKLB-FM license and transmitter plant, together with the non-transmission assets of WCRB, is worth $61,000,000. -GAWollman From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Aug 17 19:23:57 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:23:57 -0400 Subject: Now that CDBS is finally working again.... In-Reply-To: <44E4ADAA.3058.62EA79B@localhost> References: <17636.57590.393812.732520@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <44E4ADAA.3058.62EA79B@localhost> Message-ID: <17636.64141.6764.20768@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > On 17 Aug 2006 Garrett Wollman wrote: >> You, too, can review the contract for the exchange of WCRB and >> WKLB-FM, but here are the highlights: > Where can we find this? Go to the FCC Web site, find the Media Bureau, go to CDBS, select "application search" and give WKLB-FM as the callsign. The most recent outstanding application is the assignment application to Nassau, and a PDF attachment to that application is the Asset Exchange Agreement (minus all the bits that the parties are not required to provide). There still seems to be something broken that prevents me from getting the WCRB merger agreement, although its basic form can be deduced from the recitals in the Nassau deal. -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Aug 17 19:00:15 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:00:15 -0400 Subject: Now that CDBS is finally working again.... References: <17636.57590.393812.732520@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <17636.57931.765568.996619@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <004101c6c250$eac21d00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> So can you also compute the value of the WCRB physical plant plus the WKLB intellectual property or, alternatively, the value of the WCRB physical plant and the WCRB intellectual property? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:40 PM Subject: Now that CDBS is finally working again.... > < > > - In addition, Greater pays Nassau $26,000,000. > > > Greater agrees to pay Nassau $87,000,000 cash for WTHK [alone]. > > So from this, we can compute that the WKLB-FM license and transmitter > plant, together with the non-transmission assets of WCRB, is worth > $61,000,000. > > -GAWollman > From Joe@attorneyross.com Thu Aug 17 17:55:54 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:55:54 -0400 Subject: Now that CDBS is finally working again.... In-Reply-To: <17636.57590.393812.732520@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <44E4ADAA.3058.62EA79B@localhost> On 17 Aug 2006 Garrett Wollman wrote: > You, too, can review the contract for the exchange of WCRB and > WKLB-FM, but here are the highlights: Where can we find this? > - Nassau gets the intellectual property, real property, plant and > equipment, and contracts of WCRB, and leases Greater's Andover tower. > WCRB owns an acre at 750 South Street. I heard an announcement on WCRB which said that the application was on file and could be reviewed at the WCRB offices. It talked about the sale of control of Charles River Broadcasting to Greater Media. This raises the question of WFCC. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Aug 17 21:35:34 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:35:34 -0400 Subject: Now that CDBS is finally working again.... References: <44E4ADAA.3058.62EA79B@localhost> Message-ID: <01d901c6c266$9a0b91a0$2e01a8c0@pastor2> <> Is that how it's worded? Interesting. Does Nassau plan to operate Charles River Broadcasting separately, as a subsidiary? <> Isn't Christopher Jones planning to acquire WFCC? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Garrett Wollman" Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:55 PM Subject: Re: Now that CDBS is finally working again.... > On 17 Aug 2006 Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > You, too, can review the contract for the exchange of WCRB and > > WKLB-FM, but here are the highlights: > > Where can we find this? > > > - Nassau gets the intellectual property, real property, plant and > > equipment, and contracts of WCRB, and leases Greater's Andover tower. > > WCRB owns an acre at 750 South Street. > > I heard an announcement on WCRB which said that the application was > on file and could be reviewed at the WCRB offices. It talked about > the sale of control of Charles River Broadcasting to Greater Media. > This raises the question of WFCC. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Aug 17 22:09:46 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:09:46 -0400 Subject: Now that CDBS is finally working again.... In-Reply-To: <01d901c6c266$9a0b91a0$2e01a8c0@pastor2> References: <44E4ADAA.3058.62EA79B@localhost> <01d901c6c266$9a0b91a0$2e01a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <17637.8554.724690.678624@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Is that how it's worded? Interesting. Does Nassau plan to operate Charles > River Broadcasting separately, as a subsidiary? Nassau won't get the corporate entity, "Charles River Broadcasting", at all. One of the standard ways that these sorts of deals are structured is that the seller segregates all the assets to be sold into a distinct corporate entity (I think in this case it's Charles River Broadcasting Company, Inc.). The buyer creates a subsidiary of its own (often called something like "MergerCo" or "Xyz Acquisition Sub" and usually structured as an LLC). The parties agree that, upon consummation, the buyer's subsidiary will merge "with and into" the seller's subsidiary, with the seller's subsidiary the surviving company. The buyer then purchases the seller's remaining interest in the subsidiary. That's apparently how Greater is buying Charles River. I have no idea why it's done this way, but as this is standard for many sorts of corporate transactions -- not just in broadcasting -- I assume it's a tax dodge of some sort. It's only for sales of entire public companies and for FCC licensees that you normally see the actual contracts made public, but I'd bet it's very common. Companies that operate in more than one state frequently create seemingly bizarre structures in order to shield from each state's taxation their operations in other states. (Many states with corporate income taxes subject a company's entire earnings to state taxes, regardless of where that income was earned, or according to an unfavorable allocation formula.) As you look through the FCC filings, you'll often see things like: Bloggs Broadcasting Iowa Licenses LLC is the licensee of stations KXQW and KBBB-FM, Podunk, Iowa. The sole member of Bloggs Broadcasting Iowa Licenses LLC is Bloggs Broadcasting, Inc. ("BBI"). BBI also owns Bloggs Podunk Media, LLC, which publishes the Podunk Weekly Advertiser and fifteen other local weekly newspapers. Bloggs Broadcasting WBBB License Corp. is the licensee of stations WBBB and WBBB-FM, Anytown, New York. Bloggs Broadcasting WBBB License Corp. is wholly owned by Bloggs Broadcasting (New York), L.P., in which BBI owns a 99% interest and Bloggs Broadcasting LLC ("BBLLC") owns a 1% interest and is sole general partner. BBI is the sole member of Bloggs Broadcasting LLC ("BBLLC"). Joe Bloggs and Jane Randolph Bloggs are sole trustees of Joe Bloggs Family Trust, Jane Bloggs Family Trust, Joe and Jane Bloggs 1984 Trust, and Bloggs Nevada Charitable Trust (1997) ("the Bloggs Trusts"). The Bloggs Trusts collectively control a 25% economic interest and a 95% voting interest in BBI. No other parties have an attributable interest in BBI. -GAWollman From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Aug 18 03:13:41 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 03:13:41 -0400 Subject: Herald: Ch 7 may buy Ch 56 Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608180013w642c6c1dnf1b853510ddb6d16@mail.gmail.com> http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/moreTrack/view.bg?articleid=153367 "...word in TV land is that Channel 7 owner Ed Ansin is making a play to buy Channel 56 from the Tribune Co. Leading us to ask why, oh why, does Ed - whose main holdings are in Florida - want to add to his stable of Boston stations? There's a rather fascinating answer, according to our spies. Seems Ansin is trying to do an end run around NBC because he fears that the network honchos will buy WB56 themselves and move their programming there when NBC's deal with Channel 7 expires." From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Aug 18 08:25:02 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:25:02 -0400 Subject: Herald: Ch 7 may buy Ch 56 References: <1fbbbced0608180013w642c6c1dnf1b853510ddb6d16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01ee01c6c2c1$550dc400$2e01a8c0@pastor2> <> Soooo . . . a question from a Massachusetts expatriate: Does that imply that NBC is unhappy with Channel 7? I know that since the advent of cable the VHF/UHF distinction isn't as sharp as it used to be, but in Boston, 4, 5 and 7 --- the old Big Three network affiliates --- are the traditional "big contenders" when it comes to local news. Why on earth would NBC want to buy Channel 56? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: ; Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:13 AM Subject: Herald: Ch 7 may buy Ch 56 > http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/moreTrack/view.bg?articleid=153367 > > "...word in TV land is that Channel 7 owner Ed Ansin is making a play > to buy Channel 56 from the Tribune Co. Leading us to ask why, oh why, > does Ed - whose main holdings are in Florida - want to add to his > stable of Boston stations? > There's a rather fascinating answer, according to our spies. > Seems Ansin is trying to do an end run around NBC because he fears > that the network honchos will buy WB56 themselves and move their > programming there when NBC's deal with Channel 7 expires." > From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Fri Aug 18 08:56:46 2006 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 05:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Herald: Ch 7 may buy Ch 56 In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0608180013w642c6c1dnf1b853510ddb6d16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060818125646.25702.qmail@web50810.mail.yahoo.com> All along, the relationship between Mr. Ansin and NBC has been somewhat strained. His Miami station WSVN/7 was an NBC affilliate until NBC bought WTVJ/6 (formerly WCIX) and threw NBC on Channel 6, leaving WSVN with no other choice but to go with FOX or become and Indie (they went with FOX). If you recall, WHDH ALMOST went with FOX, when CBS bought WBZ/4. But, as luck would have it, NBC went to Channel 7 and FOX stayed with Channel 25. The "VHF/UHF issue" is basically moot now as all stations (both VHF and UHF) are on cable and satellite. So it really does not matter so much whether a station is on VHF or UHF, as long as it gets good cable/satellite coverage. Mr. Ansin probably has a valid worry. However, NBC might have to divest one of their properties (WNEU/WTMU or the WBPX trio) in order to stay within the ownership rules. I believe "i" is owned by NBC. Who knows. --- Bob Nelson wrote: > http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/moreTrack/view.bg?articleid=153367 > > "...word in TV land is that Channel 7 owner Ed Ansin > is making a play > to buy Channel 56 from the Tribune Co. Leading us to > ask why, oh why, > does Ed - whose main holdings are in Florida - want > to add to his > stable of Boston stations? > There's a rather fascinating answer, according > to our spies. > Seems Ansin is trying to do an end run around > NBC because he fears > that the network honchos will buy WB56 themselves > and move their > programming there when NBC's deal with Channel 7 > expires." > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ssmyth@suscom.net Fri Aug 18 08:57:27 2006 From: ssmyth@suscom.net (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:57:27 -0400 Subject: Herald: Ch 7 may buy Ch 56 In-Reply-To: <01ee01c6c2c1$550dc400$2e01a8c0@pastor2> References: <1fbbbced0608180013w642c6c1dnf1b853510ddb6d16@mail.gmail.com> <01ee01c6c2c1$550dc400$2e01a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:25:02 -0400 "Doug Drown" wrote: >Why on earth would NBC want to buy Channel 56? So NBC can pocket everything whole. Remember, NBC is paying Channel 7 a hefty affiliation fee, since the fear was Fox could scoop up Channel 7 back when WBZ dropped the affiliation way back when (has it been almost 12 years already?). Ten years ago, NBC likely wouldn't even fathom buying Channel 56. In today's cable universe, channel position is much less relevant. From ssmyth@suscom.net Fri Aug 18 09:01:13 2006 From: ssmyth@suscom.net (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:01:13 -0400 Subject: Herald: Ch 7 may buy Ch 56 In-Reply-To: <20060818125646.25702.qmail@web50810.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060818125646.25702.qmail@web50810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 05:56:46 -0700 (PDT) "Peter Q. George" wrote: >However, NBC might have to divest one >of their properties (WNEU/WTMU or the WBPX trio) in >order to stay within the ownership rules. I believe >"i" is owned by NBC. Who knows. Under that theory, Ansin's buying Channel 56 does no good. It could easily flip one of those existing stations. From stephanie@gordsven.com Fri Aug 18 10:39:11 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:39:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Herald: Ch 7 may buy Ch 56 In-Reply-To: References: <1fbbbced0608180013w642c6c1dnf1b853510ddb6d16@mail.gmail.com> <01ee01c6c2c1$550dc400$2e01a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <11938.12.37.144.130.1155911951.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> On Fri, August 18, 2006 08:57, Sean Smyth wrote: > > Remember, NBC is paying Channel 7 a hefty affiliation fee, Interesting. So essentially NBC is renting out the Channel 7 transmitter? I always thought the local transmitter would pay the national station for the right to relay their programs. As far as dial position....even on cable...are you more apt to tune in a low dial number like 2, 4 or 5, where you only have to punch in one number -- or something like Channel 66 or 231? -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From fox893@yahoo.com Fri Aug 18 11:41:05 2006 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: KZLA Gets 'Movin'" With Dees In-Reply-To: <08af01c6c238$09635620$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20060818154105.81640.qmail@web39109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > consultant Alan Burns' Rhythmic AC format known as > "Movin'" in its place. > Market legend Rick Dees signs on to do mornings on > the new station, which is > calling itself "Movin' 93.9, The Mix That Makes You > Move." It's Dees' Rhythmic AC? Is this like an Urban AC or is it more like what Star 93-7 was? Magic 104 North Conway, NH V: (603)356-8870 F: (603)356-8875 ***Commercial Production Demo at: http://cooperfox.voice123.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Joe@attorneyross.com Fri Aug 18 15:04:11 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:04:11 -0400 Subject: Herald: Ch 7 may buy Ch 56 In-Reply-To: <20060818125646.25702.qmail@web50810.mail.yahoo.com> References: <1fbbbced0608180013w642c6c1dnf1b853510ddb6d16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44E5D6EB.5918.3E8C3B@localhost> On 18 Aug 2006 Peter Q. George wrote: > The "VHF/UHF issue" is basically moot now as all > stations (both VHF and UHF) are on cable and > satellite. So it really does not matter so much > whether a station is on VHF or UHF, as long as it gets > good cable/satellite coverage. Mr. Ansin probably has > a valid worry. However, NBC might have to divest one > of their properties (WNEU/WTMU or the WBPX trio) in > order to stay within the ownership rules. I believe > "i" is owned by NBC. Who knows. Why would NBC have to buy a station to move its affiliation? All NBC would need to do would be to make the station an attractive offer. I would think one of the UHF stations would jump at the chance to get one of the "big three" networks, and Channel 56 has some local news of its own. Trouble is, they'd have to give up being THE Ten O'Clock News. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From nostaticatall@charter.net Fri Aug 18 15:53:48 2006 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:53:48 -0400 Subject: KZLA Gets 'Movin'" With Dees In-Reply-To: <20060818154105.81640.qmail@web39109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060818154105.81640.qmail@web39109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <78b92b54f54f43f6a8f4c14d7dba55d9@charter.net> It's essentially what Star was, except more contemporary. KZLA is only playing two disco era tracks and two to three 80's titles per hour. The remainder of the songs are from the 90's and 2000's. If Star had stayed on the air, it probably would have evolved into this format. In fact, I could see some struggling Hot AC's around the country "movin" to this format, as the rock-based hot AC approach is beginning to show signs of age. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Aug 18, 2006, at 11:41 AM, Cooper Fox wrote: > >> consultant Alan Burns' Rhythmic AC format known as >> "Movin'" in its place. >> Market legend Rick Dees signs on to do mornings on >> the new station, which is >> calling itself "Movin' 93.9, The Mix That Makes You >> Move." It's Dees' > > Rhythmic AC? Is this like an Urban AC or is it more > like what Star 93-7 was? > > > Magic 104 > North Conway, NH > V: (603)356-8870 > F: (603)356-8875 > ***Commercial Production Demo at: > http://cooperfox.voice123.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Fri Aug 18 18:53:41 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:53:41 -0400 Subject: Laquidara Finsihes on WBOS 8/25 Message-ID: <200608181853.AA651821676@mail.ttlc.net> According to R&R, Boston legend Charles Laquidara (based in Hawaii) will end his eight-month run of "Back Spin" (a daily retro show) on WBOS on Aug. 25. From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 19 00:18:40 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:18:40 -0400 Subject: Herald: Ch 7 may buy Ch 56 In-Reply-To: <11938.12.37.144.130.1155911951.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> References: Message-ID: <44E658E0.1460.26E49E@localhost> On 18 Aug 2006 at 10:39, Stephanie Weil wrote: > As far as dial position....even on cable...are you more apt to tune in > a low dial number like 2, 4 or 5, where you only have to punch in one > number -- or something like Channel 66 or 231? I have heard that. During the Gulf War, Brookline cable moved CNN to a lower channel on the basis that it was easier to access there. I was on the town's Cable Monitoring Committee at the time, and I heard that the lower channels were more popular. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lglavin@mail.com Sat Aug 19 16:00:05 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:00:05 -0500 Subject: Herald: Ch 7 may buy Ch 56 Message-ID: <20060819200005.37F8F164278@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Sean Smyth" , "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Re: Herald: Ch 7 may buy Ch 56 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:18:40 -0400 On 18 Aug 2006 at 10:39, Stephanie Weil wrote: > As far as dial position....even on cable...are you more apt to tune in > a low dial number like 2, 4 or 5, where you only have to punch in one > number -- or something like Channel 66 or 231? I have heard that. During the Gulf War, Brookline cable moved CNN to a lower channel on the basis that it was easier to access there. I was on the town's Cable Monitoring Committee at the time, and I heard that the lower channels were more popular. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com A few years ago, a friend of mine who was a school teacher and had the summers off used to work as a house watcher for owners who went away. One of those houses was in Medway or Medfield (I always get them confused) and he invited some of us over to use the tennis courts (with the owner's ok). Later in the day, if some of us wanted to catch the news on TV, I learned that the town's Cable TV supplier placed local over-the-air stations at completely different channel assignments. I suppose if I lived there, I'd get used to it... I automatically think og WGBX-TV as being on channel 16 and not 44.. but I found it briefly disconcerting to find channels 2 or 4 or 5 out among the double-digit assignments. I never really found out what was on 2,4,5 etc or why they did this. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 19 23:34:07 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:34:07 -0400 Subject: Herald: Ch 7 may buy Ch 56 In-Reply-To: <20060819200005.37F8F164278@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <44E79FEF.22916.4E9C0E@localhost> On 19 Aug 2006 at 15:00, Laurence Glavin wrote: > A few years ago, a friend of mine who was a school teacher and had the > summers off used to work as a house watcher for owners who went away. > One of those houses was in Medway or Medfield (I always get them > confused) and he invited some of us over to use the tennis courts > (with the owner's ok). Later in the day, if some of us wanted to > catch the news on TV, I learned that the town's Cable TV supplier > placed local over-the-air stations at completely different channel > assignments. I suppose if I lived there, I'd get used to it... I > automatically think og WGBX-TV as being on channel 16 and not 44.. but > I found it briefly disconcerting to find channels 2 or 4 or 5 out > among the double-digit assignments. I never really found out what was > on 2,4,5 etc or why they did this. I think there actually is a technical reason for this. I used to see this problem a lot more back in the 80s and early 90s than I do now, but there is a problem called "ingress," which, as the cable people explained it to me, is that if the station is the carried on the same cable channel as its air channel, the station's air signal conflicts with its cable signal, causing diagonal lines across the picture. In Brookline this seems particularly common on Channel 2. Cablevision, which was Brookline's cable company at the time, didn't want to move stations to other channels because of the confusion that would cause, and over the years, they seem to have improved the situation considerably, but I remember a lot of discussions about that when I was on the town's Cable Monitoring Committee back then. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Sun Aug 20 01:47:56 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Herald: Ch 7 may buy Ch 56 In-Reply-To: <44E79FEF.22916.4E9C0E@localhost> References: <20060819200005.37F8F164278@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> <44E79FEF.22916.4E9C0E@localhost> Message-ID: <1575.67.161.138.228.1156052876.squirrel@webmail11.pair.com> > I think there actually is a technical reason for this. I used to see > this problem a lot more back in the 80s and early 90s than I do now, > but there is a problem called "ingress," which, as the cable people > explained it to me, is that if the station is the carried on the same > cable channel as its air channel, the station's air signal conflicts > with its cable signal, causing diagonal lines across the picture. In > Brookline this seems particularly common on Channel 2. > > Cablevision, which was Brookline's cable company at the time, didn't > want to move stations to other channels because of the confusion that > would cause, and over the years, they seem to have improved the > situation considerably, but I remember a lot of discussions about > that when I was on the town's Cable Monitoring Committee back then. The Comcast system in Newton and Needham still puts 4 on 23, 5 on 24, 7 on 25 and 2 on 22, since there's so much RF from the nearby towers that those channels would be unusable. (Instead, they're used for community calendar announcements and the like; Worcester's WYDN 48 is transmitted on channel 5, where it's nearly unwatchable, but still meets those pesky "must-carry" requirements.) When I lived in Waltham, the then-TCI system had 4, 5 and 7 on higher channels, then put them on 4/5/7, and I think has gone back to the older lineup since becoming part of Comcast. Digital cable boxes can (and do) "remap" those channels, so if you're watching Comcast in Newton through a cable box tuned to "4," the box is really tuned to channel 24. In Rochester, our Time Warner system recently began transmitting our locals (8/10/13) over its digital system, and our digital boxes remap accordingly, thus ending the ingress problems that plagued my area (less than a mile from the transmitters) for decades. I recall that when the city of Rochester first got cable in the early 80s, the system there ("American Cablevision") used special Hamlin converter boxes that were modified (by printing a different slide-rule dial) so that they were actually tuned one channel lower than the number displayed. So 8 was really on channel 7, 10 on 9 and 13 on 12, but the box (which had no "channel 2," of course) showed them as 8/10/13. Channels "9", "11" and "14" on the system were used for text announcements, and were always full of ingress. s From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Mon Aug 21 08:51:50 2006 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 05:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Herald: Ch 7 may buy Ch 56 In-Reply-To: <44E79FEF.22916.4E9C0E@localhost> Message-ID: <20060821125150.42609.qmail@web56812.mail.re3.yahoo.com> > On 19 Aug 2006 at 15:00, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Later in the day, if some > of us wanted to > > catch the news on TV, I learned that the town's > Cable TV supplier > > placed local over-the-air stations at completely > different channel > > assignments. To which, on Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:34:07, A. Joseph Ross replied: > I think there actually is a technical reason for > this. I used to see > this problem a lot more back in the 80s and early > 90s than I do now, > but there is a problem called "ingress," which, as > the cable people > explained it to me, is that if the station is the > carried on the same > cable channel as its air channel, the station's air > signal conflicts > with its cable signal, causing diagonal lines across > the picture. If there's an ingress problem, I can completely understand why you would resort to an approach like this if you were a cable company. However, there are a few cases I know of where there has never been an ingress problem, yet channels were rearranged in a seemingly haphazard manner. Here in the Albany/Schenectady/Troy NY market, the local CBS/ABC/NBC are on channels 6, 10, and 13. However, on cable systems in Saratoga and I believe Glenville (about 15 miles and 30 miles from the TX site respectively), they had them on channels 7, 8, and 12. And even further out in Gloversville (@ 40 miles + to TX site) they had them on channels 8, 10, and 12. I never understood why on earth these cable companies did this, as this must've caused incredible amounts of confusion for viewers. Also, in Plattsburgh NY a similar situation exists. There, channels 3, 5, and 22 are on cable channels 2 (5), 8 (3), and 4 (22). This case might be explainable by ingress though; I'm guessing in a small area right around Rand Hill (the WPTZ tower site), as remote as that area is, they probably have ingress issues and since their cable service comes out of Plattsburgh, they have to adjust for it there. Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From markwats@comcast.net Mon Aug 21 10:15:15 2006 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:15:15 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 Message-ID: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> All Access reports that Entercom is purchasing WILD-FM (97.7 Brockton/Boston) from Radio One, and will dump the current Urban AC format & convert the 97.7 signal to a simulcast of WAAF (107.3 Westborough) at 5:30 PM Tuesday 8/22. No purchase price mentioned. Entercom has also purchased some stations in Scott Fybush's neighborhood, picking up the CBS Rochester NY cluster. They will have to divest 2 Rochester stations to remain within FCC ownership limits. Mark Watson From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Aug 21 11:19:08 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:19:08 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 In-Reply-To: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> References: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608210819t3a1323a3qf03f610d2e6d6672@mail.gmail.com> Whoa! Thanks for the tipoff. "ENTERCOM is also purchasing RADIO ONE Urban AC WILD-F/BOSTON and will flip it effective 5:30p ET TUESDAY (after a stunt) to simulcast new sister Rock WAAF to provide that station with a better signal in much of the BOSTON market." Stunting alert. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Aug 21 11:24:06 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:24:06 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 In-Reply-To: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> References: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608210824i613d13e2qe416a9181dc0d238@mail.gmail.com> Wonder if they will simulcast Sox games on 97.7? "ROCKin' your SOX..." From stephanie@gordsven.com Mon Aug 21 11:58:47 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:58:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0608210824i613d13e2qe416a9181dc0d238@mail.gmail.com> References: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> <1fbbbced0608210824i613d13e2qe416a9181dc0d238@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <54724.12.37.144.130.1156175927.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> On Mon, August 21, 2006 11:24, Bob Nelson wrote: > Wonder if they will simulcast Sox games on 97.7? "ROCKin' your SOX..." I wonder if this means a return to soul music on the real WILD 1090 AM? That would be nice.... -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Aug 21 12:15:24 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:15:24 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 In-Reply-To: <54724.12.37.144.130.1156175927.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> References: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> <1fbbbced0608210824i613d13e2qe416a9181dc0d238@mail.gmail.com> <54724.12.37.144.130.1156175927.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608210915k4fb3913fj4325721ea8315d59@mail.gmail.com> That could happen (soul on 1090). Who knows. By the way, we don't know for sure when the 97.7 flip will take place. AllAccess says tomorrow at 5:30 pm. The Entercom release says they'll take over operations of the station today, but that doesn't necessarily mean the flip is today. Fybush's NERW said the format flip should have been this morning, but it's just past noon and still R&B at 97.7, with no sign even of a stunt. "Continous music. The NEW WILD-FM" liner just ran. Will Entercom actually flip the station tomorrow at 5:30 pm or will it be earlier? Remember when word leaked of a "5 pm" format change for 93.7 (when it became Mike) and it actually took place 3 hours earlier... From ssmyth@suscom.net Mon Aug 21 12:16:35 2006 From: ssmyth@suscom.net (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:16:35 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 In-Reply-To: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> References: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:15:15 -0400 "Mark Watson" wrote: > All Access reports that Entercom is purchasing WILD-FM (97.7 > >Brockton/Boston) from Radio One, and will dump the current >Urban AC format & convert the 97.7 signal to a simulcast of >WAAF (107.3 Westborough) at 5:30 PM Tuesday 8/22. No purchase >price mentioned. After spending all that money on the signal upgrade, Entercom's finally realizing that no matter what it does, 107.3 won't get into the city? Will they go back to the old tower? To me the purchase makes little sense, return-wise. Maybe after the move to Great Blue Hill, 97.7's signal is absolutely killer in Boston, but it's core strength area still is the South Shore. And WAAF does just fine south of the city. Essentially, Entercom just bought a really high-priced translator/relay to get into Boston, since most of the 97.7 and 107.3 signal areas overlap. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Aug 21 13:42:13 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:42:13 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 References: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> Message-ID: <034d01c6c549$4b59d220$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > Essentially, Entercom just bought a really high-priced > translator/relay to get into Boston.... Was the price revealed? da From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Aug 21 14:06:13 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:06:13 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 In-Reply-To: <034d01c6c549$4b59d220$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> <034d01c6c549$4b59d220$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608211106q47b593edoaee30280feed66ad@mail.gmail.com> $30 million acc. to Entercom press release >>a definitive agreement to acquire an FM station in Boston from Radio One, Inc. (NASDAQ: ROIAK and ROIA) for $30 million in cash. On 8/21/06, Don A. wrote: > > > Essentially, Entercom just bought a really high-priced > > translator/relay to get into Boston.... > > > Was the price revealed? > > da > From nostaticatall@charter.net Mon Aug 21 14:12:12 2006 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:12:12 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 In-Reply-To: <54724.12.37.144.130.1156175927.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> References: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> <1fbbbced0608210824i613d13e2qe416a9181dc0d238@mail.gmail.com> <54724.12.37.144.130.1156175927.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> Message-ID: I wonder how committed Radio One is to staying in this market. Right now they own one daytimer with microscopic ratings. That's it. If they dumped the FM, how long will it be before the AM is sold off as well? In the meantime, I wouldn't be too surprised to see Tom Joyner wind up back on the AM. My guess is the black talk and gospel stays on 1090 if R1 is indeed getting out of Boston. If they try to stick it out long term with just the AM, there is the possibility of the old format coming back, but I wouldn't bank on it. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Aug 21, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Stephanie Weil wrote: > > I wonder if this means a return to soul music on the real WILD 1090 AM? > That would be nice.... From me@billoneill.us Mon Aug 21 15:35:30 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:35:30 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0608210915k4fb3913fj4325721ea8315d59@mail.gmail.com> References: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> <1fbbbced0608210824i613d13e2qe416a9181dc0d238@mail.gmail.com> <54724.12.37.144.130.1156175927.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> <1fbbbced0608210915k4fb3913fj4325721ea8315d59@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44EA0B02.2010509@billoneill.us> Bob Nelson wrote: > Fybush's NERW said the format flip should have been this morning, but > it's just past noon and still R&B at 97.7, with no sign even of a > stunt. How refreshing would that be? No stunting. Just flip and get back to work... Bill O'Neill From lglavin@mail.com Mon Aug 21 17:16:44 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:16:44 -0500 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 Message-ID: <20060821211644.B10BF1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Watson" To: "Boston Radio" Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:15:15 -0400 All Access reports that Entercom is purchasing WILD-FM (97.7 Brockton/Boston) from Radio One, and will dump the current Urban AC format & convert the 97.7 signal to a simulcast of WAAF (107.3 Westborough) at 5:30 PM Tuesday 8/22. No purchase price mentioned. Entercom has also purchased some stations in Scott Fybush's neighborhood, picking up the CBS Rochester NY cluster. They will have to divest 2 Rochester stations to remain within FCC ownership limits. Mark Watson My travels last month brought me to the foot of the channel 27 tower in West Boylston, partly to confirm that WAAF had PERMANENTLY moved its transmitter there (for a period of time beforehand, there had been reports that Entercom was toggling back-and-forth between Asnebumskit Hill and Stiles Hill, W. Boylston). I determined that 107.3 was indeed transmitting from W. Boylston, and then later I checked fcc.gov to check out its DA pattern. It seems that it actually SUPPRESSES its output to the northeast, east and southeast. Here are the values for degrees and relative signal where 1.000 is full power: 80-degrees: .794 90-degrees: .631 100-degrees: .501 110-degrees: .398 120, 130 & 140-degrees: .316 150-degrees: .398 160-degrees: .501 170-degrees: .631 180-degrees: .794 Most of the other azimuth points are 1.000 or close to it. If the transmitter on Asnebumskit Hill in Paxton is operational, and Entercom doesn't have to go through another CP process, it seems to me that they would be better off with the status quo ante plus 97.7. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Aug 21 16:32:07 2006 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Public Safety Radio systems to use "excess" Digital TV bandwidth for data transmissions ?? Message-ID: <20060821203207.84105.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Project54, the voice-activated police cruiser developed by University of New Hampshire engineers, showcased several new innovations -- including datacasting with New Hampshire Public Television -- during a recent event at the public safety complex...... COMPLETE STORY AT: http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/08212006/nhnews-ph-dur-project54.html From nostaticatall@charter.net Mon Aug 21 17:57:20 2006 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:57:20 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 In-Reply-To: <44EA0B02.2010509@billoneill.us> References: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> <1fbbbced0608210824i613d13e2qe416a9181dc0d238@mail.gmail.com> <54724.12.37.144.130.1156175927.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> <1fbbbced0608210915k4fb3913fj4325721ea8315d59@mail.gmail.com> <44EA0B02.2010509@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <59856ac702ba29874be5610e663a6d6a@charter.net> The afternoon jock just announced the sale of WILD-FM and that it would be "no more." He's staying on until 7pm, at which time the urban format will end. There may be stunting or who knows, maybe they'll just flip the switch to WAAF. Start rolling tape! (or record digitally....whatever..) Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Aug 21, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Bill O'Neill wrote: > Bob Nelson wrote: >> Fybush's NERW said the format flip should have been this morning, but >> it's just past noon and still R&B at 97.7, with no sign even of a >> stunt. > How refreshing would that be? No stunting. Just flip and get back to > work... > > Bill O'Neill > From Joe@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 21 18:12:30 2006 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:12:30 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 In-Reply-To: <59856ac702ba29874be5610e663a6d6a@charter.net> References: <44EA0B02.2010509@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <44E9F78E.16617.690CB8@localhost> On 21 Aug 2006 David Tomm wrote: > The afternoon jock just announced the sale of WILD-FM and that it > would be "no more." He's staying on until 7pm, at which time the > urban format will end. There may be stunting or who knows, maybe > they'll just flip the switch to WAAF. Start rolling tape! (or record > digitally....whatever..) Incidentally, when I was by there last week (the building is right near the Brockton courthouse), I noticed that the sign in front still said WBET and WCAV. -- This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the undersigned immediately and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you. A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From nostaticatall@charter.net Mon Aug 21 18:16:27 2006 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:16:27 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 In-Reply-To: <59856ac702ba29874be5610e663a6d6a@charter.net> References: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> <1fbbbced0608210824i613d13e2qe416a9181dc0d238@mail.gmail.com> <54724.12.37.144.130.1156175927.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> <1fbbbced0608210915k4fb3913fj4325721ea8315d59@mail.gmail.com> <44EA0B02.2010509@billoneill.us> <59856ac702ba29874be5610e663a6d6a@charter.net> Message-ID: Oh, and BTW, he also directed listeners to go to 1090 which will be adopting an all gospel format, as he said "for the time being." I guess that means the black talk shows will also come to an end. By the tone of what he was saying, I'm wondering how much longer the AM will be owned by Radio One. On Aug 21, 2006, at 5:57 PM, David Tomm wrote: > The afternoon jock just announced the sale of WILD-FM and that it > would be "no more." He's staying on until 7pm, at which time the > urban format will end. There may be stunting or who knows, maybe > they'll just flip the switch to WAAF. Start rolling tape! (or record > digitally....whatever..) > > Dave Tomm > "Mike Thomas" > > > On Aug 21, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Bill O'Neill wrote: > >> Bob Nelson wrote: >>> Fybush's NERW said the format flip should have been this morning, but >>> it's just past noon and still R&B at 97.7, with no sign even of a >>> stunt. >> How refreshing would that be? No stunting. Just flip and get back to >> work... >> >> Bill O'Neill >> > From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Aug 21 19:15:03 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:15:03 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 References: <001901c6c52c$39c14c40$19b38018@Mark> <1fbbbced0608210824i613d13e2qe416a9181dc0d238@mail.gmail.com> <54724.12.37.144.130.1156175927.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com><1fbbbced0608210915k4fb3913fj4325721ea8315d59@mail.gmail.com><44EA0B02.2010509@billoneill.us><59856ac702ba29874be5610e663a6d6a@charter.net> Message-ID: <000e01c6c578$a4d04da0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Who will buy an AM daytimer without pre-sunrise authority in this era of daylight saving time that begins in March and lasts until November? Maybe the guy who bought WESX and WJDA. WESX is a fulltimer and WJDA, though a Class D, has 71W night authority, but neither one is really a Boston signal. As far as I can tell, the brokered Spanish and Portuguese religion on WESX/WJDA is never simulcast, suggesting that the new owner has been able to sell out two stations. But that may be an illusion; the two stations may carry the same programs at different times. If someone wanted to spend big $$$ on a daytime AM, WILD could get a substantial power increase (perhaps even to 50 kW), but it can't escape from being a daytimer. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tomm" To: "David Tomm" Cc: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:16 PM Subject: Re: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 > Oh, and BTW, he also directed listeners to go to 1090 which will be > adopting an all gospel format, as he said "for the time being." I > guess that means the black talk shows will also come to an end. By the > tone of what he was saying, I'm wondering how much longer the AM will > be owned by Radio One. > > > On Aug 21, 2006, at 5:57 PM, David Tomm wrote: > > > The afternoon jock just announced the sale of WILD-FM and that it > > would be "no more." He's staying on until 7pm, at which time the > > urban format will end. There may be stunting or who knows, maybe > > they'll just flip the switch to WAAF. Start rolling tape! (or record > > digitally....whatever..) > > > > Dave Tomm > > "Mike Thomas" > > > > > > On Aug 21, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Bill O'Neill wrote: > > > >> Bob Nelson wrote: > >>> Fybush's NERW said the format flip should have been this morning, but > >>> it's just past noon and still R&B at 97.7, with no sign even of a > >>> stunt. > >> How refreshing would that be? No stunting. Just flip and get back to > >> work... > >> > >> Bill O'Neill > >> > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Aug 21 19:21:01 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:21:01 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 References: <20060821211644.B10BF1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000f01c6c578$a599b820$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Quite so. I think it depends on whether WAAF has yet received a license to cover its move to W Boyleston. Thiat is probably discernible from the FCC's FM Query page. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Mark Watson" ; "Boston Radio" Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 5:16 PM Subject: Re: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Watson" > To: "Boston Radio" > Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:15:15 -0400 > > All Access reports that Entercom is purchasing WILD-FM (97.7 > Brockton/Boston) from Radio One, and will dump the current Urban AC > format & convert the 97.7 signal to a simulcast of WAAF (107.3 > Westborough) at 5:30 PM Tuesday 8/22. No purchase price mentioned. > Entercom has also purchased some stations in Scott Fybush's > neighborhood, picking up the CBS Rochester NY cluster. They will > have to divest 2 Rochester stations to remain within FCC ownership > limits. > > Mark Watson > > My travels last month brought me to the foot of the channel 27 tower in > West Boylston, partly to confirm that WAAF had PERMANENTLY moved its > transmitter there (for a period of time beforehand, there had been > reports that Entercom was toggling back-and-forth between Asnebumskit > Hill and Stiles Hill, W. Boylston). I determined that 107.3 was indeed > transmitting from W. Boylston, and then later I checked fcc.gov to > check out its DA pattern. It seems that it actually SUPPRESSES its > output to the northeast, east and southeast. Here are the values > for degrees and relative signal where 1.000 is full power: > > 80-degrees: .794 > 90-degrees: .631 > 100-degrees: .501 > 110-degrees: .398 > 120, 130 & 140-degrees: .316 > 150-degrees: .398 > 160-degrees: .501 > 170-degrees: .631 > 180-degrees: .794 > > Most of the other azimuth points are 1.000 or close to it. > > If the transmitter on Asnebumskit Hill in Paxton is operational, and > Entercom doesn't have to go through another CP process, it seems to me > that they would be better off with the status quo ante plus 97.7. > > > > > -- > ___________________________________________________ > Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ > > From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Aug 22 01:08:13 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:08:13 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 In-Reply-To: <000e01c6c578$a4d04da0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <44EA58FD.2784.63F510@localhost> On 21 Aug 2006 at 19:15, Dan Strassberg wrote: > If someone wanted to spend big $$$ on a daytime AM, WILD could get a > substantial power increase (perhaps even to 50 kW), but it can't > escape from being a daytimer. -- Dan Strassberg, > dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 Why can't WILD get nighttime authorization? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Tue Aug 22 01:24:40 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:24:40 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 References: <44EA58FD.2784.63F510@localhost> Message-ID: <030501c6c5ab$6b2b09e0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > Why can't WILD get nighttime authorization? Because of 50kw WBAL from Baltimore. Comes in here at night like a local signal. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Aug 22 04:17:02 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:17:02 -0400 Subject: Entercom Buys WILD-FM, Will Simulcast WAAF On 97.7 In-Reply-To: <030501c6c5ab$6b2b09e0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <44EA58FD.2784.63F510@localhost> <030501c6c5ab$6b2b09e0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608220117r62c75241qce0237821e9be807@mail.gmail.com> As a matter of fact, during the baseball playoffs last year, I was using WBAL 1090 at work (I work nights) to pick up the games, as ESPN 890/1400 didn't come in well in North Reading. Boston Radio Watch says: "WILD-FM's sister station WILD-AM 1090 which until today was featuring all-talk format since January is not involved in the Radio One-Entercom transaction. However, WILD-AM 1090's talk format exited today and made way to temporary Gospel music format forcing local morning drive show hosted by veteran talker Jimmy Myers and Radio One's national talk network off the air in Boston which almost certainly spells out a sale for the now stand-alone AM operation." The stunt started on 97.7: computerized voice counting down to Tue at 5:30 pm, with some oddball comments thrown in: movie quotes, song lyrics, jokes. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Aug 22 04:41:58 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:41:58 -0400 Subject: Herald: Rap lovers not too WILD about station's change Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608220141p58ffe089y6840dbe126de66b7@mail.gmail.com> http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=153862 excerpt: "It's like putting 'AAF on a super amplifier," said Julie Kahn, vice president and market manager for Entercom Boston. The move will end hip-hop's reign on the station and leave local competitor WJMN-FM (Jam'n 94.5) the sole station on the FM dial for rap music. That had members of the Hub's urban music scene voicing their displeasure. "Its terrible," said rapper Ed Anderson, who goes by the pseudonym Edo G. "I mean, we don't have black radio in Boston as it is, now we really don't have black radio in Boston." Though the purchase isn't expected to close until later this year, Entercom expects to begin broadcasting WAAF on 97.7 today. Late night, the station broadcast a robotic-sounding countdown. No DJS, commercials or music were played. The deal will result in a significant number of layoffs among 97.7's staff, said Zemira Z. Jones, vice president of operations at Radio One. Approximately 20 to 25 people work at WILD, he added. In addition, WILD's AM sister station 1090 will adjust its format. Radio One will move the Tom Joyner morning show from 97.7 FM to AM-1090. News talk programming will be discontinued on WILD 1090 and replaced with contemporary inspirational and gospel music, Jones said. Also cut will be the Jimmy Myers (talk) show, said Tony Bennis, former producer of the show, adding "despite the fact that it was exceeding and doing really important things in Boston." From readaaron@friedbagels.com Mon Aug 21 11:33:51 2006 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:33:51 -0400 Subject: Entercom buys WILD-FM Message-ID: <44E9D25F.7090505@friedbagels.com> While I think it's great that WAAF now has a decent Boston signal to compete with (arguably) WBCN, WFNX and WZLX...methinks there's faaaarrrr more interesting speculation on "What does this mean for WEEI, WRKO and the Red Sox in 2007?" Obviously there was tons of spec about whether a huge FM signal was better than a huger AM signal (albeit weak in Metrowest). But it's even more debatable whether a *weak* FM signal like WILD is better than an huge AM signal like WRKO or WEEI. Especially since any signal on Blue Hill has trouble getting into (and over) downtown Boston; even WGBH can't do it so great and they've got 98kW ERP vs. WILD's 2kW. And mind you, 97.7 still doesn't get into Metrowest thanks to co-channel Class D WYAJ...which has been off the air for a while due to a rebuild of the entire high school in Sudbury, but there was an article recently saying WYAJ was coming back this fall. Still, methinks a simulcast of 97.7 and WEEI makes a helluva lot more sense than that weird arrangement of WEEI and WRKO. One also suspects that Lucchino & company will want VERY badly to get people to stop listening to the daily tirades on WEEI...although the way this season's going - they're in no position to make any demands in that regard. :-) Besides of the Red Sox, I wonder if a WAAF-97.7 simulcast really makes more fiscal sense than a WEEI-97.7 simulcast? Obviously WAAF+WILD means a lot more area better covered instead of WEEI+WILD just meaning (at best) the same area covered. But it's hard to discount that AM vs. FM issue. Speaking of which...is WILD running IBOC already? -- -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com www.friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02246 Fried Bagels - Broadcast Radio & Web Engineering & Operations Consultant From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Aug 22 12:54:44 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:54:44 -0400 Subject: Entercom buys WILD-FM In-Reply-To: <44E9D25F.7090505@friedbagels.com> References: <44E9D25F.7090505@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608220954w27ed8060p9d40d346fab2cdbb@mail.gmail.com> I would love to have Red Sox games put on WMKK 93.7 since where I work (post office in North Reading) that station comes in very well :) WRKO (stick in Burlington) will come in better than WEEI (Needham) though there still will be parts of my building where it will be impossible to hear games due to electronic interference. (I used to work for the Woburn postal facility on Washington St., and you could see the 'RKO sticks from our parking lot. Back when I was there--pre-1990--WRKO had the Sox rights and games were very easy to pick up inside.) From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Tue Aug 22 18:24:00 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:24:00 -0400 Subject: Entercom buys WILD-FM Message-ID: <200608221824.AA1639121362@mail.ttlc.net> Aaron Read wrote: >One also suspects that Lucchino & company will want VERY badly to get >people to stop listening to the daily tirades on WEEI...although the >way this season's going - they're in no position to make any demands >in that regard. :-) Daiy tirades or not, WEEI is up from 3rd place to 2nd place (just behind WBZ) per M/J/J Arbitrends. From me@billoneill.us Tue Aug 22 19:32:45 2006 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:32:45 -0400 Subject: Entercom buys WILD-FM In-Reply-To: <200608221824.AA1639121362@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200608221824.AA1639121362@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <44EB941D.40309@billoneill.us> rogerkirk wrote: > Daiy tirades or not, WEEI is up from 3rd place to 2nd place (just behind WBZ) per M/J/J Arbitrends. > Never underestimate the venerable Nifty Eight Fifty. Steady she goes! Bill O'Neill From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Aug 23 14:00:29 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:00:29 -0400 Subject: I Need a HUGE Favour Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060823135922.03c70f68@donnahalper.com> I just got called by Jim Lehrer's producer to be on a segment of the NewsHour tonight. Is there anyone who could roll tape for me? From blaine@well.com Wed Aug 23 15:13:57 2006 From: blaine@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:13:57 -0400 Subject: I Need a HUGE Favour In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060823135922.03c70f68@donnahalper.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20060823135922.03c70f68@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <44ECA8F5.2070300@well.com> Donna Halper wrote: > I just got called by Jim Lehrer's producer to be on a segment of the > NewsHour tonight. Is there anyone who could roll tape for me? > My VCR is trained and ready for recording. Contact me offlist on where to mail it - I'm sending this to the list, so everyone knows I'll do it. - Blaine From rogerkola@aol.com Wed Aug 23 15:45:31 2006 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:45:31 -0400 Subject: I Need a HUGE Favour References: <7.0.1.0.2.20060823135922.03c70f68@donnahalper.com> <44ECA8F5.2070300@well.com> Message-ID: <001c01c6c6ec$b1ce32e0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> What everyone knows is they found someone who can actually program their VCR...now if I could only get mine to stop blinking...I could take the piece of electrical tape off it ;-) Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blaine Thompson" To: "Donna Halper" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:13 PM Subject: Re: I Need a HUGE Favour > Donna Halper wrote: > > I just got called by Jim Lehrer's producer to be on a segment of the > > NewsHour tonight. Is there anyone who could roll tape for me? > > > My VCR is trained and ready for recording. > > Contact me offlist on where to mail it - I'm sending this to the list, > so everyone knows I'll do it. > > - Blaine > > From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Aug 23 15:50:05 2006 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:50:05 -0400 Subject: I Need a HUGE Favour In-Reply-To: <001c01c6c6ec$b1ce32e0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <007e01c6c6ed$550d4680$6500a8c0@Office> I used to know what a VCR was.....let me see "Vintage Classic Recorder" or something like that...... Privacy Notice: The information provided in this communication is intended only for the individual / firm named above. It is considered privileged and confidential by the sender and as such only the intended recipient is authorized to receive it. If this information is received by anyone other than to whom it is directed, please notify the sender immediately. The discussion, disclosure or any release or other use of this information by any individual, other than to whom it was directed, is strictly prohibited by law. If you believe that you have received this e-mail in error, kindly contact the sender immediately for further instructions. Thank you, in advance, for your cooperation. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Roger Kolakowski Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:46 PM To: Blaine Thompson; Donna Halper Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: I Need a HUGE Favour What everyone knows is they found someone who can actually program their VCR...now if I could only get mine to stop blinking...I could take the piece of electrical tape off it ;-) Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blaine Thompson" To: "Donna Halper" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:13 PM Subject: Re: I Need a HUGE Favour > Donna Halper wrote: > > I just got called by Jim Lehrer's producer to be on a segment of the > > NewsHour tonight. Is there anyone who could roll tape for me? > > > My VCR is trained and ready for recording. > > Contact me offlist on where to mail it - I'm sending this to the list, > so everyone knows I'll do it. > > - Blaine > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.5/425 - Release Date: 8/22/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.5/425 - Release Date: 8/22/2006 From rogerkola@aol.com Wed Aug 23 15:58:01 2006 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:58:01 -0400 Subject: I Need a HUGE Favour References: <007e01c6c6ed$550d4680$6500a8c0@Office> Message-ID: <004101c6c6ee$718fbf80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> It's the thing that has sat under the TV for 20 years that the antenna goes into...if you take the antenna off it, the TV doesn't work anymore ;-) Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary's Ice Cream" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: RE: I Need a HUGE Favour > I used to know what a VCR was.....let me see "Vintage Classic Recorder" or > something like that...... > > > > > Privacy Notice: The information provided in this communication is intended > only for the individual / firm named above. It is considered privileged and > confidential by the sender and as such only the intended recipient is > authorized to receive it. If this information is received by anyone other > than to whom it is directed, please notify the sender immediately. The > discussion, disclosure or any release or other use of this information by > any individual, other than to whom it was directed, is strictly prohibited > by law. If you believe that you have received this e-mail in error, kindly > contact the sender immediately for further instructions. Thank you, in > advance, for your cooperation. > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Roger Kolakowski > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:46 PM > To: Blaine Thompson; Donna Halper > Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: I Need a HUGE Favour > > What everyone knows is they found someone who can actually program their > VCR...now if I could only get mine to stop blinking...I could take the piece > of electrical tape off it ;-) > > Roger > WA1KAT > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Blaine Thompson" > To: "Donna Halper" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: I Need a HUGE Favour > > > > Donna Halper wrote: > > > I just got called by Jim Lehrer's producer to be on a segment of the > > > NewsHour tonight. Is there anyone who could roll tape for me? > > > > > My VCR is trained and ready for recording. > > > > Contact me offlist on where to mail it - I'm sending this to the list, > > so everyone knows I'll do it. > > > > - Blaine > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.5/425 - Release Date: 8/22/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.5/425 - Release Date: 8/22/2006 > > > From fox893@yahoo.com Wed Aug 23 17:04:42 2006 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Roll Drive? (Was:Re: I Need a HUGE Favour) In-Reply-To: <004101c6c6ee$718fbf80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <20060823210442.71443.qmail@web39105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Interesting question... Who on here still has a VCR and who uses a DVR/TiVo? --- Roger Kolakowski wrote: > It's the thing that has sat under the TV for 20 > years that the antenna goes > into...if you take the antenna off it, the TV > doesn't work anymore ;-) > > Roger > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary's Ice Cream" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:50 PM > Subject: RE: I Need a HUGE Favour > > > > I used to know what a VCR was.....let me see > "Vintage Classic Recorder" or > > something like that...... > > > > > > > > > > Privacy Notice: The information provided in this > communication is intended > > only for the individual / firm named above. It is > considered privileged > and > > confidential by the sender and as such only the > intended recipient is > > authorized to receive it. If this information is > received by anyone other > > than to whom it is directed, please notify the > sender immediately. The > > discussion, disclosure or any release or other use > of this information by > > any individual, other than to whom it was > directed, is strictly prohibited > > by law. If you believe that you have received this > e-mail in error, kindly > > contact the sender immediately for further > instructions. Thank you, in > > advance, for your cooperation. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > > > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf > Of > > Roger Kolakowski > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:46 PM > > To: Blaine Thompson; Donna Halper > > Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > > Subject: Re: I Need a HUGE Favour > > > > What everyone knows is they found someone who can > actually program their > > VCR...now if I could only get mine to stop > blinking...I could take the > piece > > of electrical tape off it ;-) > > > > Roger > > WA1KAT > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Blaine Thompson" > > To: "Donna Halper" > > Cc: > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:13 PM > > Subject: Re: I Need a HUGE Favour > > > > > > > Donna Halper wrote: > > > > I just got called by Jim Lehrer's producer to > be on a segment of the > > > > NewsHour tonight. Is there anyone who could > roll tape for me? > > > > > > > My VCR is trained and ready for recording. > > > > > > Contact me offlist on where to mail it - I'm > sending this to the list, > > > so everyone knows I'll do it. > > > > > > - Blaine > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.5/425 - > Release Date: 8/22/2006 > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.5/425 - > Release Date: 8/22/2006 > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From pete@partnercomm.com Wed Aug 23 17:26:11 2006 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:26:11 -0400 Subject: Roll Drive? (Was:Re: I Need a HUGE Favour) In-Reply-To: <20060823210442.71443.qmail@web39105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060823210442.71443.qmail@web39105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44ECC7F3.5050206@partnercomm.com> Cooper Fox wrote: > Interesting question... Who on here still has a VCR > and who uses a DVR/TiVo? I have two TiVo units - both hacked (for additional disk space) and networked. Either are configured so I can download shows to my PC - for direct viewing or to burn to optical media (DVD or SVCD, etc). TiVo is so inexpensive and adds such convenience, I can't imagine not having one. I don't even know when shows are on - they just are recorded and appear in my "Now Playing" list. -Peter -- Peter Murray (N3IXY) Oak Hill, VA From hmadjid@gmail.com Wed Aug 23 17:35:12 2006 From: hmadjid@gmail.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:35:12 -0400 Subject: Sighted in Everett Square Message-ID: Lately I've had occasion to be in Everett Square early in the morning, in connection with a political campaign. This morning I spied a strange site. An old Pontiac Parisienne automobile, with the paint all faded passed through the square. It had a red white & blue WJIB 740 bumper sticker on the back. 73 de Hakim (N1ZFF) From lglavin@mail.com Wed Aug 23 17:44:54 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:44:54 -0500 Subject: Roll Drive? (Was:Re: I Need a HUGE Favour) Message-ID: <20060823214454.B31DE1024D@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Fox" To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Roll Drive? (Was:Re: I Need a HUGE Favour) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Interesting question... Who on here still has a VCR and who uses a DVR/TiVo? S I D E B A R: It's 5:45 pm and I'm preparing to watch Donna during the 6:00 pm airing on channel 2... remember, in Boston channel 44 re-runs "The Jim Lehrer News Hour" at ABOUT 11:00 pm (this is begathon season which is why there's no "Beat the Press" this or last week, so JLNH may start later), so if you missed the 6:00 pm showing and it's before 11:00 pm as you peruse this, you get a second chance. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From rogerkola@aol.com Wed Aug 23 18:02:22 2006 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:02:22 -0400 Subject: Roll Drive? (Was:Re: I Need a HUGE Favour) References: <20060823210442.71443.qmail@web39105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002a01c6c6ff$d134dae0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> I will have to say I already gave my answer away, but as an additional note I don't have cable and I listen to AM radio. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Fox" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 5:04 PM Subject: Roll Drive? (Was:Re: I Need a HUGE Favour) > > Interesting question... Who on here still has a VCR > and who uses a DVR/TiVo? > > > --- Roger Kolakowski wrote: > > > It's the thing that has sat under the TV for 20 > > years that the antenna goes > > into...if you take the antenna off it, the TV > > doesn't work anymore ;-) > > > > Roger > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary's Ice Cream" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:50 PM > > Subject: RE: I Need a HUGE Favour > > > > > > > I used to know what a VCR was.....let me see > > "Vintage Classic Recorder" or > > > something like that...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Privacy Notice: The information provided in this > > communication is intended > > > only for the individual / firm named above. It is > > considered privileged > > and > > > confidential by the sender and as such only the > > intended recipient is > > > authorized to receive it. If this information is > > received by anyone other > > > than to whom it is directed, please notify the > > sender immediately. The > > > discussion, disclosure or any release or other use > > of this information by > > > any individual, other than to whom it was > > directed, is strictly prohibited > > > by law. If you believe that you have received this > > e-mail in error, kindly > > > contact the sender immediately for further > > instructions. Thank you, in > > > advance, for your cooperation. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: > > > boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > > > > > > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > > On Behalf > > Of > > > Roger Kolakowski > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:46 PM > > > To: Blaine Thompson; Donna Halper > > > Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > > > Subject: Re: I Need a HUGE Favour > > > > > > What everyone knows is they found someone who can > > actually program their > > > VCR...now if I could only get mine to stop > > blinking...I could take the > > piece > > > of electrical tape off it ;-) > > > > > > Roger > > > WA1KAT > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Blaine Thompson" > > > To: "Donna Halper" > > > Cc: > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:13 PM > > > Subject: Re: I Need a HUGE Favour > > > > > > > > > > Donna Halper wrote: > > > > > I just got called by Jim Lehrer's producer to > > be on a segment of the > > > > > NewsHour tonight. Is there anyone who could > > roll tape for me? > > > > > > > > > My VCR is trained and ready for recording. > > > > > > > > Contact me offlist on where to mail it - I'm > > sending this to the list, > > > > so everyone knows I'll do it. > > > > > > > > - Blaine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.5/425 - > > Release Date: 8/22/2006 > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.5/425 - > > Release Date: 8/22/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Wed Aug 23 18:18:57 2006 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:18:57 -0400 Subject: Roll Drive? (Was:Re: I Need a HUGE Favour) References: <20060823214454.B31DE1024D@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <001001c6c702$29167f00$0401a8c0@Family> Coop asked: >> Interesting question... Who on here still has a VCR and who uses a DVR/TiVo? << the vcrs (5 in all) are still functioning and paid for. and until they're obsolete, i'll use 'em and watch 'em in "low def," much in the same way analog am skips at 0245 still have a way to make the commute to work interesting. - - chuck (colorizes his beard) igo From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Aug 23 18:59:13 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:59:13 -0400 Subject: Roll Drive? (Was:Re: I Need a HUGE Favour) In-Reply-To: <20060823210442.71443.qmail@web39105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <004101c6c6ee$718fbf80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <20060823210442.71443.qmail@web39105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060823185732.023a0a80@mac.com> At 05:04 PM 8/23/2006, Cooper Fox wrote: >Interesting question... Who on here still has a VCR >and who uses a DVR/TiVo? I have a DirecTV Tivo. I also have a VCR, but since I've had the Tivo I've only used the VCR to dub a show off the Tivo for a friend. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed Aug 23 20:57:22 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:57:22 -0400 Subject: Roll Drive? (Was:Re: I Need a HUGE Favour) Message-ID: <200608232057.AA1868562906@mail.ttlc.net> Aw C'mon Chuck, join us the 21st century and get a TIVO. The newest model allows recording two shows simultaneously or recording one show while watching Live TV. TiVo has SO many more features than a VCR e.g. Wish List, Rrecord New Shows Only, Show-Dependent Record Quality, Remote Control Over The Internet, etc. Even my wife loves TiVo and she's a self-admitted Luddite most of the time. Roger (who colorizes his beard, too) Kirk ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Chuck Igo" Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:18:57 -0400 >Coop asked: >>> Interesting question... Who on here still has a VCR >and who uses a DVR/TiVo? << > >the vcrs (5 in all) are still functioning and paid for. and until they're >obsolete, i'll use 'em and watch 'em in "low def," much in the same way >analog am skips at 0245 still have a way to make the commute to work >interesting. > >- - chuck (colorizes his beard) igo > > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Aug 24 00:36:02 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 00:36:02 -0400 Subject: Roll Drive? (Was:Re: I Need a HUGE Favour) In-Reply-To: <20060823210442.71443.qmail@web39105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <004101c6c6ee$718fbf80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <44ECF472.22294.546828@localhost> On 23 Aug 2006 at 14:04, Cooper Fox wrote: > Interesting question... Who on here still has a VCR > and who uses a DVR/TiVo? I have two VCRs, one in the livingroom and one in the bedroom. And a friend who just gave up using VCRs has just given me a large box of cassettes. Apparently he re-recorded his video library onto DVD or whatever else is out there. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Thu Aug 24 05:50:55 2006 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 05:50:55 -0400 Subject: Roll Drive? (Was:Re: I Need a HUGE Favour) In-Reply-To: <200608232057.AA1868562906@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200608232057.AA1868562906@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: roger chided: > Aw C'mon Chuck, join us the 21st century and get a TIVO. > The newest model allows recording two shows simultaneously > or recording one show while watching Live TV. > > TiVo has SO many more features than a VCR e.g. Wish List, > Rrecord New Shows Only, Show-Dependent Record Quality, > Remote Control Over The Internet, etc. > > Even my wife loves TiVo and she's a self-admitted Luddite most > of the time. > roger - the upside to my use of the still-working vcr's is that they're paid for. no fees, no subscription. tapes are still cheap enough that i buy a 6- pack at the start of each fall season and they get me through. and i'm far from a techno-phobe. i'm one of the better-versed staffers here in portland when it comes to the latest digital production platforms. i used to think that the SAW audio program was great, but the Mac-based ProTools is simply incredible - it can handle audio AND video. also - i've never seen anyone share a "tivo'd" copy of a missed episode of a show. matter of fact, i taped the 6-hour "Brotherhood" marathon on showtime and the tape is already making the rounds here in the building as the show features comic-slash-radio fill-in host (WROR) Tony V in a recurring role as a cop. (very well done and he's still damn funny) with colleges to pay for (one just graduated, one starts BC next week, and one still to come), i gotta maximize my non-Imus/Stern-like radio salary. - - chuck igo From scott@fybush.com Thu Aug 24 13:54:18 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:54:18 -0400 Subject: Take me out to the ballgame... Message-ID: <44EDE7CA.5080107@fybush.com> Anyone out there in boston-radio-interest-land a fan of minor-league baseball? The Rochester Red Wings will be playing the Pawtucket Red Sox this Saturday evening at Fenway, as part of a minor-league doubleheader that also features the Lowell Spinners vs. Oneonta. Being both a Red Sox and Red Wings fan, I'll be coming to town with Lisa and Ari - and a cluster of other Rochester folks, plus our esteemed Moderator - to take in the game, which appears to be heading for a sellout. I also just happen to have two extra tickets in our row, in section 30...and would be happy to offer them (at face value, of course) to any interested b-r-i reader. Contact me off-list TODAY if you're interested...I'll be on the road all day tomorrow. Thanks to Garrett for allowing me to borrow the list for a moment! s From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Aug 25 16:49:06 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:49:06 -0400 Subject: Jimmy Myers on 'TKK; local talk on 1200, 1400 Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608251349g3b395fb3g45696380e93a66c8@mail.gmail.com> WTKK's FM Talk Newsletter says that Eagan and Braude are filling in for Imus next week, and Jimmy Myers (formerly of WILD AM) will do the noon hour in their place. Also a Clea Simon piece in the Globe yesterday says that WXKS/WKOX, which went to Air America and related syndie programming back in Oct. of '04, finally have a local host... once per week. Jeff Santos, airing Sundays 2 to 5 pm. The show has been on a couple weeks but no mention of it on the WKOXKS site yet. http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2006/08/24/progressive_talk_host_says_hell_finally_speak_his_mind/?rss_id=Boston+Globe+--+Living+%2F+Arts+News From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Aug 25 16:49:29 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:49:29 -0400 Subject: Jimmy Myers on 'TKK; local talk on 1200, 1400 In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0608251349g3b395fb3g45696380e93a66c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced0608251349g3b395fb3g45696380e93a66c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608251349q1f3d10f4hef10dfe18db1aaee@mail.gmail.com> oops, typo! 1430 that should say... From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Aug 25 16:56:37 2006 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:56:37 -0400 Subject: Jimmy Myers on 'TKK; local talk on 1200, 1400 In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0608251349g3b395fb3g45696380e93a66c8@mail.gmail.co m> References: <1fbbbced0608251349g3b395fb3g45696380e93a66c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060825165433.03ae4c50@donnahalper.com> At 04:49 PM 8/25/2006, Bob Nelson wrote: >Also a Clea Simon piece in the Globe yesterday says that WXKS/WKOX, >which went to >Air America and related syndie programming back in Oct. of '04, >finally have a local host... >once per week. Jeff Santos, airing Sundays 2 to 5 pm. The show has >been on a couple >weeks but no mention of it on the WKOXKS site yet. Umm, that's not true. On the front page of the Boston's Progressive Talk site is a rotating promo, and the second one is for Jeff Santos. Big, full colour, with the show time and everything. I know because I helped to up-date it. It now changes weekly. Jeff has been on for 3 weeks, getting excellent interviews already and overcoming some technical difficulties the first week-- happens to all new shows. 8-) From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Aug 25 18:19:28 2006 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:19:28 -0400 Subject: Donna on the News Hour In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060823135922.03c70f68@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <000301c6c894$8ae0c860$3c9e05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> I just checked in and missed your appearance. What were you on for and how did it go? From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Aug 25 18:32:48 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:32:48 -0400 Subject: Jimmy Myers on 'TKK; local talk on 1200, 1400 In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060825165433.03ae4c50@donnahalper.com> References: <1fbbbced0608251349g3b395fb3g45696380e93a66c8@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20060825165433.03ae4c50@donnahalper.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608251532v274d41f0xd207f6ba391671d0@mail.gmail.com> On 8/25/06, Donna Halper wrote: > Umm, that's not true. On the front page of the Boston's Progressive > Talk site is a rotating promo, and the second one is for Jeff > Santos. Big, full colour, with the show time and everything. I know > because I helped to up-date it. It now changes weekly. Jeff has > been on for 3 weeks, getting excellent interviews already and > overcoming some technical difficulties the first week-- happens to > all new shows. 8-) I guess I missed that ad--though I did just see it now when I went to the site again. However, it still is not updated on the "Complete Lineup" schedule page. It still says: SUNDAYS >>2 pm - 3 pm Politically Direct" w/ David Bender >>3 pm - 4 pm (Rebroadcast) "Ring of Fire" w/ Mike Papantonio & Robert Kennedy Jr. >>4 pm-5 pm The Time is Now From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Aug 25 21:25:46 2006 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:25:46 -0400 Subject: Channel 5 logo Message-ID: <001101c6c8ae$8ea301b0$2e01a8c0@pastor2> Question out of curiosity: Is WCVB-TV's "arrow-within-a-five" logo a registered trademark? I think it's been used by the station ever since it went on the air in 1972, and I know of no other station anywhere that uses it. Does anyone know who designed it? It's unique and clever. -Doug From lglavin@mail.com Sat Aug 26 13:21:04 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:21:04 -0500 Subject: Tavis Smiley Underwriter Message-ID: <20060826172104.804D0478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Two days ago, when Donna appeared on "The Jim Lehrer News hour", I posted a message that those who missed the channel 2, NHPTV or Maine PTV showing and lived where WGBX-TV OTA channel 44 was available could catch the 11 O'Clock or so showing later. The approximate time was given because August is extremely-annoying fund-raising month. Anyway, I taped the JLNH last night and added time for any delay from the doo-wop, Andre Rieu or Andrea Bocelli that might have been on. Well, the JLNH started promptly at its announced time, so by chance I happened also to tape the opening of the Tavis Smiley show. Tavis :) is an African-American (then so is Massachusetts Supreme Court justice Margaret Marshall but that's another story) talk show host who focuses on minority issues, so guess what: among its underwriters getting a plug before and after the show were WILD-FM and WILD-AM. The text of the WILD-FM announcement was "Peoples Radio bringing you the Tom Joyner Show daily"...the WILD-AM script read "WILD-AM News Radio 1090 where knowledge is power" (ok reduced power two hours after local sunrise and two hours before local sunset and REALLY reduced power until 30 minutes after sunset). I wonder how much longer these messages will air on channel 2 or 44. The Tavis :) show normally runs on channel 2 at 12:30 am. I'll be taping in the next few days to see if the underwriting messages for WILD AM& FM remain the same. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Aug 26 16:36:43 2006 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:36:43 -0400 Subject: Tavis Smiley Underwriter In-Reply-To: <20060826172104.804D0478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060826172104.804D0478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060826163310.0260b6a0@mac.com> At 01:21 PM 8/26/2006, Laurence Glavin wrote: > among its underwriters getting a plug before and after the show > were WILD-FM and WILD-AM. >The text of the WILD-FM announcement was "Peoples Radio bringing you the >Tom Joyner Show daily"...the WILD-AM script read "WILD-AM News Radio 1090 >where knowledge is power" (ok reduced power two hours after local sunrise and >two hours before local sunset and REALLY reduced power until 30 >minutes after sunset). >I wonder how much longer these messages will air on channel 2 or >44. The Tavis :) >show normally runs on channel 2 at 12:30 am. I'll be taping in the >next few days >to see if the underwriting messages for WILD AM& FM remain the same. My guess is that they (the soon-to-be former owners of WILD-FM) have already paid for the announcements to run for some period of time, and that they will continue to run until that time period ends. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From francini@mac.com Mon Aug 28 11:55:43 2006 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:55:43 -0700 Subject: Channel 5 logo Message-ID: At 21:25 -0400 8/25/06, Doug Drown wrote: >Question out of curiosity: Is WCVB-TV's "arrow-within-a-five" logo a >registered trademark? I think it's been used by the station ever since it >went on the air in 1972, and I know of no other station anywhere that uses >it. Does anyone know who designed it? It's unique and clever. > >-Doug I was 12 years old when WHDH became WCVB, under original ownership group Boston Broadcasters, Inc. I'd heard about the ownership battle, but to my still-a-kid mind, I didn't see what the point was. Anyway, I was surprised and impressed with the logo, which was present from the very first day. It was quite unique. Interesting to hear that it's still unique -- you'd have thought someone would have used it elsewhere in the country by now. So what will happen when all those nice low-digit channel numbers become unavailable when analog broadcasting goes away? 20 just doesn't have the same 'ring' to it as 5 does... John -- John Francini, francini@mac.com "The journey is more important than the destination-that's part of life. If you only live for getting to the end, you're almost always disappointed." -Donald Knuth From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Aug 28 11:58:38 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:58:38 -0400 Subject: Channel 5 logo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17651.4782.886826.549643@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > So what will happen when all those nice low-digit channel numbers > become unavailable when analog broadcasting goes away? 20 just > doesn't have the same 'ring' to it as 5 does... They don't become unavailable, just undesirable. Channel 7 will still be on channel 7, not channel 42, after 2009, as the VHF-high band is the best place to be. I don't think the FCC has made a decision yet on how channel numbers in PSIP data will be assigned once the original analogue channels go away. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Mon Aug 28 12:56:06 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:56:06 -0400 Subject: Channel 5 logo In-Reply-To: <17651.4782.886826.549643@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <17651.4782.886826.549643@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <44F32026.7000004@fybush.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> So what will happen when all those nice low-digit channel numbers >> become unavailable when analog broadcasting goes away? 20 just >> doesn't have the same 'ring' to it as 5 does... > > They don't become unavailable, just undesirable. Channel 7 will still > be on channel 7, not channel 42, after 2009, as the VHF-high band is > the best place to be. I don't think the FCC has made a decision yet > on how channel numbers in PSIP data will be assigned once the original > analogue channels go away. Au contraire - the FCC's policy is that stations will continue to use their old analog assignments as their virtual channel numbers in PSIP data, regardless of what RF channel they end up on. There's also a provision for virtual channels 70 and up to be used for "national" services down the road - so CW could be on virtual "95" in every market, for instance. s From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Aug 28 13:06:26 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:06:26 -0400 Subject: Inside Track: WBOS Censored Laquidara Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608281006k37a583bfl79efacc64330c6d@mail.gmail.com> (from Herald Inside Track) http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/moreTrack/view.bg?articleid=154763 excerpt: "the real reason Charles Laquidara and WBOS parted ways was because the station believed the Boston radio legend was being too political - and he wouldn't sit for censorship. Laquidara resigned his gig as host of a daily one-hour music show called "Back Spin" after catching heat from station suits for airing his way-left-of-center views on the prez, the war, etc. "Our spies in the studio say that after Laquidara played Neil Young's new tune 'Impeach the President,' he was reprimanded by his boss, who told him something along the lines of 'We don't do politics, we don't do news, we rarely do interviews and we don't do controversy. We're an oasis for our listeners.'" From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Aug 28 13:17:44 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:17:44 -0400 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608281017j498ceddke3b3436e9a607c37@mail.gmail.com> http://business.bostonherald.com/reviews/view.bg?articleid=154741 "Then there's Boston Acoustics' Recepter Radio HD. Those puppies are designed to make AM sound like FM, and upgrade FM to CD quality. On top of that, broadcasters are now multicasting, which is technical jargon for sandwiching as many as four channels onto a single FM frequency. And that kind of development, broadcasters say, will lead to more choice and diversity on the radio." (snip) "The idea of having a plethora of hidden stations is exciting. But the dearth of true variety on most of these stations was disappointing. The problem is not many of the multicast channels deviate from the mundane commercialized programming you hear on traditional radio, minus the lack of commercials. This isn't Boston Acoustics' fault, it's the broadcasters. If terrestrial radio wants to grab the attention of a generation more in tune to podcasts than the Top 40 countdown, they're going to have be edgier, bolder and experimental." From tpproductions@charter.net Fri Aug 25 23:46:39 2006 From: tpproductions@charter.net (TPP) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:46:39 -0400 Subject: Doug White Message-ID: <002a01c6c8c5$7d5542d0$8802a8c0@TPP> Doug White was indeed a news anchor at channel 27 prior to going to Providence. He replaced Garey Walsh who was the original anchor. From lglavin@mail.com Mon Aug 28 14:04:28 2006 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:04:28 -0500 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not Message-ID: <20060828180428.12AFD1F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: raccoonradio@gmail.com, boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:17:44 -0400 http://business.bostonherald.com/reviews/view.bg?articleid=154741 "Then there's Boston Acoustics' Recepter Radio HD. Those puppies are designed to make AM sound like FM, and upgrade FM to CD quality. On top of that, broadcasters are now multicasting, which is technical jargon for sandwiching as many as four channels onto a single FM frequency. And that kind of development, broadcasters say, will lead to more choice and diversity on the radio." Let me get this straight: WEEI-AM does NOT broadcast in HD, and theoretically NO AM station broadcasts in HD at night...yet this writer claims to hear an enormous improvement in the WEEI-AM signal on his HD receiver! What is he, a RELIGION writer? -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Aug 28 14:09:45 2006 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:09:45 -0400 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not Message-ID: <1fbbbced0608281109p4d964515he97e68e317ab2971@mail.gmail.com> On 8/28/06, Laurence Glavin wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > Let me get this straight: WEEI-AM does NOT broadcast in HD, and theoretically > NO AM station broadcasts in HD at night...yet this writer claims to hear an > enormous improvement in the WEEI-AM signal on his HD receiver! What is > he, a RELIGION writer? Good question! And assuming that this article was written over the past couple days, the "Friday night" game he refers to started at 10 pm. Now, you could assume that maybe WEEI does broadcast in HD after all, but they'd have to shut it off at sunset, and a Red Sox game might begin before sunset (7:05 pm, though sunsets are getting much earlier now)...and maybe he refers to a game from the previous Friday. But I have yet to hear of WEEI boasting about having an HD quality signal! Unless he was listening to WEEI-FM out of RI instead (do THEY have HD signal?)...or WBOQ (I doubt it...) and thought he was tuned to 850! From stephanie@gordsven.com Mon Aug 28 14:13:01 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not In-Reply-To: <20060828180428.12AFD1F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060828180428.12AFD1F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <24941.12.37.144.130.1156788781.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> Do WRKO 68 and WHDH 85 (yeah yeah) have any plans to go IBOC anytime soon? I know the Salem group doesn't want to fool with IBOC on AM since they say it diminishes the listenable range of their stations. On Mon, August 28, 2006 14:04, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > Let me get this straight: WEEI-AM does NOT broadcast in HD, and -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Aug 28 14:50:09 2006 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:50:09 -0400 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not References: <20060828180428.12AFD1F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <00b001c6cad2$d24f67c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > What is > he, a RELIGION writer? No, he is an obsessive crass Classical music listener from Methuen From sid@wrko.com Mon Aug 28 16:21:56 2006 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:21:56 -0600 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not Message-ID: >>Do WRKO 68 and WHDH 85 (yeah yeah) have any plans to go IBOC anytime soon?<< No. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From scott@fybush.com Mon Aug 28 16:57:48 2006 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:57:48 -0400 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44F358CC.3080208@fybush.com> Sid Schweiger wrote: > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC > WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM Leave it to Sid's sig line to scoop us all on the new calls for 97.7! (I'm glad I was in town to tape a "WAAF/WILD-FM" legal over the weekend...) s From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Mon Aug 28 18:37:24 2006 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Donald A.) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060828223724.28725.qmail@web55315.mail.re4.yahoo.com> --- Sid Schweiger wrote: > >>Do WRKO 68 and WHDH 85 (yeah yeah) have any plans > to go IBOC anytime soon?<< > > No. What is the company's rationale for not wanting to do anything in this regard...? Don __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Mon Aug 28 19:03:51 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:03:51 -0400 Subject: Inside Track: WBOS Censored Laquidara Message-ID: <200608281903.AA4192993806@mail.ttlc.net> Herald says: "If terrestrial radio wants to grab the attention of a generation more in tune to podcasts than the Top 40 countdown, they're going to have be edgier, bolder and experimental." BOS says something along the lines of: >... 'We don't do politics, we don't do news, we rarely do >interviews and we don't do controversy. We're an oasis for our >listeners.'" Don't these kinda cancel each other out? From sid@wrko.com Mon Aug 28 21:08:55 2006 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:08:55 -0600 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not Message-ID: >>Leave it to Sid's sig line to scoop us all on the new calls for 97.7!<< It was applied for last week, so it's public information...nothing that a search at the online call-sign desk wouldn't have revealed. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From sid@wrko.com Mon Aug 28 21:18:21 2006 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:18:21 -0600 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not Message-ID: >>What is the company's rationale for not wanting to do anything in this regard...?<< All I know is what I've been told: They won't move on AM-IBOC until it can be on 24/7. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From stephanie@gordsven.com Mon Aug 28 21:25:20 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:25:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1691.66.65.49.10.1156814720.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> On Mon, August 28, 2006 16:21, Sid Schweiger wrote: >>>Do WRKO 68 and WHDH 85 (yeah yeah) have any plans to go IBOC anytime >>> soon?<< Any reason why not? Seems like all these groups are getting keen on IBOC -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Aug 29 00:49:49 2006 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:49:49 -0400 Subject: Channel 5 logo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44F38F2D.9680.95AA43@localhost> On 28 Aug 2006 at 8:55, John Francini wrote: > Anyway, I was surprised and impressed with the logo, which was > present from the very first day. It was quite unique. Interesting to > hear that it's still unique -- you'd have thought someone would have > used it elsewhere in the country by now. Maybe they have. I thought the logo looked like an archery target and drew a cartoon showing an arrow in the bulls-eye and the caption "WHDH-TV shall rise again!" Funny, it did, sort of. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Aug 29 10:02:07 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:02:07 -0400 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not References: <1691.66.65.49.10.1156814720.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> Message-ID: <000701c6cb73$c483fe20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Well, for WEEI, WCRN could be a factor. WEEI's and WCRN's daytime 5 mV/m contours are very close. If WEEI were to broadcast in IBOC during the day, the likelihood of serious interference to WCRN within WCRN's 5 mV/m contour would be quite high. If WCRN were to run IBOC during the day, the likelihood of serious interference to WEEI within WEEI's 5 mV/m contour would be even higher because WCRN is directionalized (more-or-less) toward WEEI during the day, whereas WEEI puts out only a minor lobe toward WCRN during the day. If WCRN ever were to build out its (now tolled, I'm told) CP for 50 kW-N, and if IBOC were permitted at night, and if WCRN used it, the interference from WCRN to WEEI would be even more severe than would the daytime interference. I think this situation is potentially serious enough that if WCRN were to run IBOC, Entercom might have no choice but to make Carter an offer for WCRN that Carter could not afford to refuse. Since WCRN is probably not making any money, I have no idea how large such an offer might have to be. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephanie Weil" To: "Sid Schweiger" Cc: Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 9:25 PM Subject: Re: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not > > On Mon, August 28, 2006 16:21, Sid Schweiger wrote: > >>>Do WRKO 68 and WHDH 85 (yeah yeah) have any plans to go IBOC anytime > >>> soon?<< > > Any reason why not? Seems like all these groups are getting keen on IBOC > > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City, NY, USA From mamros@MIT.EDU Tue Aug 29 10:32:32 2006 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:32:32 -0400 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not Message-ID: <200608291432.k7TEWWgK029101@mass-toolpike.mit.edu> > Any reason why not? Seems like all these groups are getting keen on IBOC On FM, yes. It makes a lot of sense there, more so for the second program channel than for the better sound (the latter makes a good selling point, but the former could lead to a new revenue stream someday). Is IBOC catching on with AM stations much? Sid's got a good point - if it can't be run 24/7, why bother? Especially if one of your primary programming sources is sporting events that either start or run into the evening hours. -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From stephanie@gordsven.com Tue Aug 29 10:45:44 2006 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:45:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not In-Reply-To: <200608291432.k7TEWWgK029101@mass-toolpike.mit.edu> References: <200608291432.k7TEWWgK029101@mass-toolpike.mit.edu> Message-ID: <40399.12.37.144.130.1156862744.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> On Tue, August 29, 2006 10:32, Shawn Mamros wrote: > Is IBOC catching on with AM stations much? Sid's got a good point - > if it can't be run 24/7, why bother? Especially if one of your > primary programming sources is sporting events that either start > or run into the evening hours. It's weird, that's a fact. Here in New York City, we had a slew of AM stations go IBOC this summer: WFAN, WABC, WNYC, WCBS and WADO (66, 710 WOR since 2003, 77, 82, 88 and 1280). Guess what WFAN and WCBS do when they're doing sports - even doing the day? They turn the IBOC off, because of the inherent delay in the system. WNYC had a problem and turned their IBOC off on AM. Supposedly they're back to their old wide-band setup. WADO had a problem for a few months with hardware, but now they're back to IBOC. WABC also turns their IBOC off during their Saturday afternoon/evening oldies show - the sun hasn't even set yet locally. Seems like the decisions to install this junk were made from "up high" - and the engineers couldn't do much about it, except to do as they were told. But it's making my radios sound like crap. :-/ -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Tue Aug 29 11:16:31 2006 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:16:31 -0400 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not Message-ID: <200608291116.AA50070486@mail.ttlc.net> "Stephanie Weil" wrote: >Seems like the decisions to install this junk were made from "up >high" - and the engineers couldn't do much about it, except to do >as they were told. But it's making my radios sound like crap. Would complaints to "up high" about the quality, noise and possible decision to "not listen" make any difference? From wollman@csail.mit.edu Tue Aug 29 11:24:36 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:24:36 -0400 Subject: WCRN In-Reply-To: <000701c6cb73$c483fe20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <1691.66.65.49.10.1156814720.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> <000701c6cb73$c483fe20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <17652.23604.763195.139661@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > WCRN ever were to build out its (now tolled, I'm told) CP for 50 kW-N The FCC records agree with what you've been told. "Tolling granted on May 24, 2006 by letter 1800B3-IB." The tolling code is listed as "Judicial Review". -GAWollman From wollman@csail.mit.edu Tue Aug 29 11:34:33 2006 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:34:33 -0400 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not In-Reply-To: <200608291116.AA50070486@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200608291116.AA50070486@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <17652.24201.274288.431873@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Would complaints to "up high" about the quality, noise and possible > decision to "not listen" make any difference? Based on what I've seen in the trades, I doubt it. I think the people who are pushing IBOC on AM are doing it for "strategic" reasons, and complaints from "a few cranks and DXers" are not going to make them change their strategy. The most intelligent comment I've heard thus far is that the AM stations should wait until "everybody" has an IBOC radio (about 20 years at the current rate) and then cut direct to digital, avoiding the hybrid mode entirely. (If they do that, Barry McLarnon points out that they'd be better off using DRM rather than the iBiquity system.) -GAWollman From nostaticatall@charter.net Tue Aug 29 11:56:21 2006 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:56:21 -0400 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not In-Reply-To: <000701c6cb73$c483fe20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <1691.66.65.49.10.1156814720.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> <000701c6cb73$c483fe20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: I'm actually surprised that Entercom hasn't figured out a way to buy this station already. It would make sense. They could simulcast WEEI on it, which would cover Central Mass much better than 1440. They would even be able to carry the Red Sox games on 830, keeping the local sales money in house instead of affiliating with WTAG. I know that Carter has resisted selling the station, but considering their programming/sales issues over the last several years, I would think he could be moved with the right offer. Maybe a frequency swap with 1440 and some cash considerations would do the trick.... Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Aug 29, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Dan Strassberg wrote: > Well, for WEEI, WCRN could be a factor. WEEI's and WCRN's daytime 5 > mV/m > contours are very close. If WEEI were to broadcast in IBOC during the > day, > the likelihood of serious interference to WCRN within WCRN's 5 mV/m > contour > would be quite high. If WCRN were to run IBOC during the day, the > likelihood > of serious interference to WEEI within WEEI's 5 mV/m contour would be > even > higher because WCRN is directionalized (more-or-less) toward WEEI > during the > day, whereas WEEI puts out only a minor lobe toward WCRN during the > day. If > WCRN ever were to build out its (now tolled, I'm told) CP for 50 kW-N, > and > if IBOC were permitted at night, and if WCRN used it, the interference > from > WCRN to WEEI would be even more severe than would the daytime > interference. > I think this situation is potentially serious enough that if WCRN were > to > run IBOC, Entercom might have no choice but to make Carter an offer > for WCRN > that Carter could not afford to refuse. Since WCRN is probably not > making > any money, I have no idea how large such an offer might have to be. From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Aug 29 12:24:03 2006 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:24:03 -0400 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not References: <1691.66.65.49.10.1156814720.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> <000701c6cb73$c483fe20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <001f01c6cb87$90606de0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> According to my sources, all of the interested members of the Carberry (spelling?) family live quite close to Boston (places like Weston, for example) and they want to listen to the station. If so, 830 is the only Worcester AM signal that works for them--and it won't work all that well at night unless/until the 50 kW night upgrade gets built. I don't know what the actual signal strengths are, but during the day, 1310 seems to come in about as well as 830 does where I live (Arlington Heights). This seeming anomaly may be the result of the farther-west location of the 830 TX. At night, neither signal is really listenable. Dan Strassberg, Contributing Editor EDN Magazine | Reed Electronics Group | www.edn.com Fax 707-215-6367 | StrassbergEDN@att.net *** CONTACT ME BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO SEND ATTACHMENTS LARGER THAN 1 Mbyte *** ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tomm" To: "Dan Strassberg" Cc: ; "Sid Schweiger" ; "Stephanie Weil" Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: Re: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not > I'm actually surprised that Entercom hasn't figured out a way to buy > this station already. It would make sense. They could simulcast WEEI > on it, which would cover Central Mass much better than 1440. They > would even be able to carry the Red Sox games on 830, keeping the local > sales money in house instead of affiliating with WTAG. I know that > Carter has resisted selling the station, but considering their > programming/sales issues over the last several years, I would think he > could be moved with the right offer. Maybe a frequency swap with 1440 > and some cash considerations would do the trick.... > > Dave Tomm > "Mike Thomas" > > > On Aug 29, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Dan Strassberg wrote: > > > Well, for WEEI, WCRN could be a factor. WEEI's and WCRN's daytime 5 > > mV/m > > contours are very close. If WEEI were to broadcast in IBOC during the > > day, > > the likelihood of serious interference to WCRN within WCRN's 5 mV/m > > contour > > would be quite high. If WCRN were to run IBOC during the day, the > > likelihood > > of serious interference to WEEI within WEEI's 5 mV/m contour would be > > even > > higher because WCRN is directionalized (more-or-less) toward WEEI > > during the > > day, whereas WEEI puts out only a minor lobe toward WCRN during the > > day. If > > WCRN ever were to build out its (now tolled, I'm told) CP for 50 kW-N, > > and > > if IBOC were permitted at night, and if WCRN used it, the interference > > from > > WCRN to WEEI would be even more severe than would the daytime > > interference. > > I think this situation is potentially serious enough that if WCRN were > > to > > run IBOC, Entercom might have no choice but to make Carter an offer > > for WCRN > > that Carter could not afford to refuse. Since WCRN is probably not > > making > > any money, I have no idea how large such an offer might have to be. From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Tue Aug 29 12:28:05 2006 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:28:05 -0400 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not In-Reply-To: <000701c6cb73$c483fe20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <1691.66.65.49.10.1156814720.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> <000701c6cb73$c483fe20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060829122143.02310940@BelloAssoc.com> Great idea. Why not buy WCRN, build out the CP and then move WVEI to 830. It would solve the lack of coverage in Metrowest. I live just 4-5 miles west of WEEI's transmitter and can not listen to WEEI at night without extreme pain. At 10:02 AM 8/29/2006, you wrote: >Well, for WEEI, WCRN could be a factor. WEEI's and WCRN's daytime 5 mV/m >contours are very close. If WEEI were to broadcast in IBOC during the day, >the likelihood of serious interference to WCRN within WCRN's 5 mV/m contour >would be quite high. If WCRN were to run IBOC during the day, the likelihood >of serious interference to WEEI within WEEI's 5 mV/m contour would be even >higher because WCRN is directionalized (more-or-less) toward WEEI during the >day, whereas WEEI puts out only a minor lobe toward WCRN during the day. If >WCRN ever were to build out its (now tolled, I'm told) CP for 50 kW-N, and >if IBOC were permitted at night, and if WCRN used it, the interference from >WCRN to WEEI would be even more severe than would the daytime interference. >I think this situation is potentially serious enough that if WCRN were to >run IBOC, Entercom might have no choice but to make Carter an offer for WCRN >that Carter could not afford to refuse. Since WCRN is probably not making >any money, I have no idea how large such an offer might have to be. > >-- >Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net >eFax 707-215-6367 > From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Tue Aug 29 12:41:55 2006 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:41:55 -0400 Subject: Herald: HD Radio Hot, Actual shows are not In-Reply-To: <40399.12.37.144.130.1156862744.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> References: <200608291432.k7TEWWgK029101@mass-toolpike.mit.edu> <40399.12.37.144.130.1156862744.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060829123501.02541120@BelloAssoc.com> It is difficult to believe that management hits the road to really listen to their product. For example, here in Metrowest (Natick - Framingham), WBZ has not had a clean signal since turning IBOC on. WBIX does not help. Why do anything to degrade your signal and listener pool ? Whether management realizes it or not, it does contribute to listener fatigue. >Seems like the decisions to install this junk were made from "up high" - >and the engineers couldn't do much about it, except to do as they were >told. But it's making my radios sound like crap. :-/ > >-- >Stephanie Weil >New York City, NY, USA From madprof@ix.netcom.com Wed Aug 30 23:50:39 2006 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:50:39 -0400 Subject: fwd: FCC must ward off FEMA Message-ID: <063501c6ccb0$a10f9060$a13f9c04@p133> Passing on a post from Barry Mishkind's Email list: (many of you probably already have seen this) of a scary concept which IMHO could cause disasters to be worse. Bob From: To: Subject: [BC] FCC must ward off FEMA Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 12:27 AM In a column in Tuesdays Pittsburgh Tribune-Review columnist Dimitri Vassilaros wrote some nice words about the FCC: There is at least one government agency that deserves recognition for its very unbureaucrat-like work during Hurricane Katrina. Hint: It's not the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Admittedly, that's not much of a hint. Not a hint at all, actually, given FEMA's absolutely abysmal performance before, during and after the Category 3 hurricane that almost made New Orleans the Cajun Atlantis. So of course, FEMA now is trying to get that agency, the Federal Communications Commission, under its control during emergencies. Read the remainder of the column at: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/vassilaros /s _467743.html Frank Gottlieb just passing it along _______________________________________________ The BROADCAST [BC] list is sponsored by SystemsStore On-Line Sales Cable-Connectors-Blocks-Racks-Wire Management-Test Gear-Tools and More! www.SystemsStore.com Tel: 407-656-3719 Sales@SystemsStore.com From sid@wrko.com Thu Aug 31 08:41:02 2006 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:41:02 -0600 Subject: fwd: FCC must ward off FEMA Message-ID: >>> "Robert F. Sutherland" 8/30/2006 11:50:39 PM >>> Passing on a post from Barry Mishkind's Email list: (many of you probably already have seen this) of a scary concept which IMHO could cause disasters to be worse. Bob ... FEMA now is trying to get that agency, the Federal Communications Commission, under its control during emergencies.<< You did not, unfortunately, post the follow-up from Richard Rudman, the now-retired CE at KFWB and a long-time participant in national boards and agencies dealing with public warning. The gist of Rudman's follow-up is that FEMA is doing no such thing. All public warning agencies are being placed, by an Executive Order of the President, under the Department of Homeland Security...possibly one of the smarter things he has done during his term in office. Current responsibility for public warnings is now a hodgepodge of competing regulations and agencies, some at the national level, some at the state level and some at the local level, all of which have conflicting mandates and often send out conflicting warnings and instructions to the public. The one unfortunate part of all this is that, less than ten years after the Emergency Broadcast System was replaced by the Emergency Alert System (an unfunded government mandate), the whole thing may be scrapped yet again in favor of a new system...and this one will probably be unfunded as well. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com