From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Oct 1 02:16:25 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 02:16:25 -0400 Subject: BRW: Sarandis to leave WEEI Message-ID: <1fbbbced0509302316v5918408fse871449dddf22264@mail.gmail.com> Big news from the folks on Guest St. according to Boston Radio Watch: Ted Sarandis is leaving to "pursue other interests". But he will continue to do B.C. basketball. Various guest hosts will be filling in (Mike Adams was on tonight post-Sox game). Interestingly enough, one theory as to why Entercom decided to put the Celts on WRKO rather than WEEI was not just the "avoid conflicts with the Sox" deal, but the thought that Ted, like him or not, was getting good ratings so they could have the Celts game on the sister station AND Ted doing talk on 'EEI. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Oct 1 02:23:02 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 02:23:02 -0400 Subject: Globe gets the wrong Buck Message-ID: <1fbbbced0509302323n5222c96reff6d45c955a10fd@mail.gmail.com> In yesterday's Globe, the Sportview Column (Howard Bryant) mentioned that Fox's #1 announcer was Jack Buck. Er, no; Jack passed on a few years ago. They mean Joe Buck. Am sure the Globe regrets the error. From paulranderson@charter.net Sat Oct 1 12:21:47 2005 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:21:47 -0400 Subject: WBZ's new 'style' In-Reply-To: <20050930.050740.997.653298@webmail18.lax.untd.com> References: <20050930.050740.997.653298@webmail18.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <9360CF82-0657-467D-AB92-9FFD304E5CFB@charter.net> On Sep 30, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Ed Hennessy wrote: > Yesterday AM around 5:30 I heard a promo that stated "You give us > 22 minutes, we'll give you the world!" I've never understood why WINS specifies 22 minutes, since their news blocks start every 20, not 22, minutes. It makes even less sense for WBZ, since their blocks start every 30 minutes. If you counted the brief list of headlines at :18 and :48, that would still mean that I would give WBZ 20 minutes, except if I wanted sports, I'd still need to give them 30 minutes. "The newswatch never stops" and now "give us 22 minutes". What's next for WBZ? A teletype machine bed during the news? Paul From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sat Oct 1 12:46:21 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:46:21 -0400 Subject: WBZ's new 'style' In-Reply-To: <9360CF82-0657-467D-AB92-9FFD304E5CFB@charter.net> Message-ID: <000a01c5c6a7$a79b2d50$4900a8c0@Andrastea> >"The newswatch never stops" and now "give us 22 minutes". What's >next for WBZ? A teletype machine bed during the news? Playing devil's advocate for a moment... What good would that SFX do? How many Gen-Xer's know what a teletype is, let alone what it sounds like? Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 Ofc: +1-978-538-7575 Fax: +1-978-538-7550 From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Sat Oct 1 13:13:52 2005 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 13:13:52 -0400 Subject: Sarandis to leave WEEI References: <1fbbbced0509302316v5918408fse871449dddf22264@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00fd01c5c6ab$7f58cb00$98803418@DG07P241> Something I read in the last month or so left me with the impression that Wolfe was trying to push Sarandis into "leaving". Anyone else come across this? Paul Sandwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: ; "Bob Nelson" Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 2:16 AM Subject: BRW: Sarandis to leave WEEI > Big news from the folks on Guest St. according to Boston Radio Watch: > Ted Sarandis is leaving to "pursue other interests". But he will > continue to do B.C. basketball. > > Various guest hosts will be filling in (Mike Adams was on tonight > post-Sox game). Interestingly enough, one theory as to why Entercom > decided to put the Celts on WRKO rather than WEEI > was not just the "avoid conflicts with the Sox" deal, but the thought > that Ted, like him or not, > was getting good ratings so they could have the Celts game on the > sister station AND > Ted doing talk on 'EEI. > > From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Oct 1 13:36:09 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:36:09 -0500 Subject: WBZ's new 'style' Message-ID: <20051001173609.B536CCA071@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brian Vita" >To: "'Paul Anderson'" , "'Boston Radio'" interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org> >Subject: RE: WBZ's new 'style' >Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:46:21 -0400 > > > "The newswatch never stops" and now "give us 22 minutes". What's > > next for WBZ? A teletype machine bed during the news? > > Playing devil's advocate for a moment... > What good would that SFX do? How many Gen-Xer's know what a teletype is, > let alone what it sounds like? > How about what has become a sound-effect cliche for an interruption: the sound of a phonograph needle being dragged acroos the grooves of an LP? And some NPR show use the sound of a typewriter when they read listener mail, most of which is e-mail. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Oct 1 16:24:44 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 16:24:44 -0400 Subject: Sarandis to leave WEEI In-Reply-To: <00fd01c5c6ab$7f58cb00$98803418@DG07P241> References: <1fbbbced0509302316v5918408fse871449dddf22264@mail.gmail.com> <00fd01c5c6ab$7f58cb00$98803418@DG07P241> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510011324g7e738c01h3ce8c0d284f873ef@mail.gmail.com> Today's Globe and Herald stories about the Sarandis departure hinted that he was disenchanted with WEEI and he suspected that "the feeling was mutual". It was thought that Sarandis' more serious style clashed with the more irreverent feel WEEI has these days. http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/articles/2005/10/01/sarandis_out_as_host_of_nation/ http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=105049 On 10/1/05, Paul B. Currier wrote: > Something I read in the last month or so left me with the impression that > Wolfe was trying to push Sarandis into "leaving". Anyone else come across > this? From francini@mac.com Sat Oct 1 18:00:15 2005 From: francini@mac.com (John J. Francini) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:00:15 -0400 Subject: BRW: Sarandis to leave WEEI Message-ID: I've always thought that Ted, even though he was popular, was jarringly different in his on-air style from the hosts on the rest of the day. For me at least he was far too earnest, too serious. The other hosts all make a major attempt to leaven their shows with humor, with varying degrees of success. But Ted was so darn earnest, even when he was doing 5 action-packed hours of retractable roof talk. He approached most every subject on the table with that same earnestness. It was as if he was talking about The Important Issues Of the Day(tm), but he was talking about sports -- the "toybox of life", as Dale Arnold so aptly puts it. The earnestness was hard to take. And that's another thing -- he was beginning to get stereotyped for both that earnestness and for some of the positions he'd take. The 'retractable roof talk' is just one of them. He'd get involved in discussing political or national issues that are not sports-talk fodder with the same earnestness that he approached sports. It's bad enough that D&C do that. When Ted did it (as when D&C do it), the radio would get switched to ESPN 900 (I'm in Nashua) instantly. National sports-talk is light-years better than listening to sports personalities talk politics. He was also becoming the butt of jokes and bits on D&C, Dale & Holley (and earlier, Dale and Neumy), and of course on the Big Show. I can't count the times I'd hear Ted's "Wow!", "Eight!", or "I apologize to you a thousand times, I get on my hands and knees and apologize to you!" on those shows. And his exhortations to get people to go to BC basketball games bordered on insults to the listeners' intelligence (and got rightly ridiculed for weeks later on the Big Show). My view: "Give Mike Adams His Own Show!" (But pair him with somebody. I think that sports talk works best when there's at least one other person in the studio to work with.) Just my $0.02, John (who's been listening to 'EEI since its inception as a sports-talker). From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Oct 1 18:17:55 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:17:55 -0400 Subject: BRW: Sarandis to leave WEEI References: Message-ID: <002d01c5c6d6$17787b40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Earnest; I guess that's a polite way of describing Sarandis's manner. At first, I described it as an uncanny ability to find the dark cloud wrapped around any silver lining. And then, for me, at least, his manner turned into obvious disdain for the listeners and apparent total boredom with what he was doing on the air. As Entercom restructures WRKO, they should consider Ted for issue-oriented talk. His ultra-right, neo-con views fit perfectly with those that prevail at THE talk station. And sometimes, his anger matches Michael Savage's polemics. I hardly listen to WRKO anymore and if Ted were there, I'd listen even less (if that were possible). That wouldn't bother Entercom; though; they aren't interested in my demo. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Francini" To: Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:00 PM Subject: Re: BRW: Sarandis to leave WEEI From scott@saloway.com Sat Oct 1 18:32:05 2005 From: scott@saloway.com (Scott Saloway) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 18:32:05 -0400 Subject: WBZ's new 'style' In-Reply-To: <9360CF82-0657-467D-AB92-9FFD304E5CFB@charter.net> References: <20050930.050740.997.653298@webmail18.lax.untd.com> <9360CF82-0657-467D-AB92-9FFD304E5CFB@charter.net> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20051001182823.01ffa618@pop.1and1.com> Because 22 minutes is just enough time to keep people so they count towards two 15-minute periods for ratings purposes. Even though the news blocks start every 20 minutes, you have to keep listening for at least 2 more minutes to get the headlines and traffic. That puts you "in the know" after 22 minutes. That's why WINS is the self-proclaimed most-listened-to radio station in the US. Its cume is through the roof from a program clock that encourages people to keep listening for those extra 7 minutes. Scott At 12:21 PM 10/1/2005, Paul Anderson wrote: >On Sep 30, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Ed Hennessy wrote: > >>Yesterday AM around 5:30 I heard a promo that stated "You give us >>22 minutes, we'll give you the world!" > >I've never understood why WINS specifies 22 minutes, since their news >blocks start every 20, not 22, minutes. It makes even less sense for >WBZ, since their blocks start every 30 minutes. > >If you counted the brief list of headlines at :18 and :48, that would >still mean that I would give WBZ 20 minutes, except if I wanted >sports, I'd still need to give them 30 minutes. > >"The newswatch never stops" and now "give us 22 minutes". What's >next for WBZ? A teletype machine bed during the news? > >Paul Scott Saloway General Manager, WSIA College of Staten Island From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sat Oct 1 20:56:34 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 20:56:34 -0400 Subject: WBZ's new 'style' In-Reply-To: <20051001173609.B536CCA071@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20051001173609.B536CCA071@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <433F3042.9010501@cssinc.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: > >How about what has become a sound-effect cliche for an interruption: >the sound of a phonograph needle being dragged acroos the grooves >of an LP? >And some NPR show use the sound of a typewriter when they read listener >mail, most of which is e-mail. > > > Yeah, but some use real old computers. At least P2's! -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Arial;}} {\*\generator Msftedit 5.41.15.1507;}\viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 Brian T. Vita, President\par Cinema Service & Supply, Inc.\par 77 Walnut St - Ste 4\par Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA\par Sales: (800)231-8849\par Office: (978)538-7575\par Fax: (978)538-7550\par www.cssinc.com\par } From billo@shoreham.net Sat Oct 1 21:00:40 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 21:00:40 -0400 Subject: WBZ's new 'style' In-Reply-To: <9360CF82-0657-467D-AB92-9FFD304E5CFB@charter.net> References: <20050930.050740.997.653298@webmail18.lax.untd.com> <9360CF82-0657-467D-AB92-9FFD304E5CFB@charter.net> Message-ID: <433F3138.6080606@shoreham.net> Paul Anderson wrote: > "The newswatch never stops" and now "give us 22 minutes". What's > next for WBZ? A teletype machine bed during the news? > > Paul "Now, with more radio cars than Yellow Cab...." Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Sat Oct 1 21:06:02 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 21:06:02 -0400 Subject: WBZ's new 'style' In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20051001182823.01ffa618@pop.1and1.com> References: <20050930.050740.997.653298@webmail18.lax.untd.com> <9360CF82-0657-467D-AB92-9FFD304E5CFB@charter.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20051001182823.01ffa618@pop.1and1.com> Message-ID: <433F327A.9090608@shoreham.net> Scott Saloway wrote: > Because 22 minutes is just enough time to keep people so they count > towards two 15-minute periods for ratings purposes. 40 minute music sweeps like the ones on the former WSSH started at :55 and ended at :35. With 9 spots (3 x 3) between :35 and :55 and then back at it. If you could sustain a listener for the full sweep, there was your hour for the book. IIRC, Wish had some solid numbers back in the mid and late 80s with that model (among other good ingredients.) Bill O'Neill From francini@mac.com Sat Oct 1 21:54:52 2005 From: francini@mac.com (John J. Francini) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:54:52 -0400 Subject: BRW: Sarandis to leave WEEI In-Reply-To: <002d01c5c6d6$17787b40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <002d01c5c6d6$17787b40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: I was indeed endeavoring to be polite. I have absolutely nothing against Ted, and I think the word fits him well. I actually remember the evening he took calls all bloody night about his retractable roof proposal for a new Fenway Park, after one rainstorm too many for his liking in late April a few years ago. He was earnest and passionate about it being The Solution to the rain-out problem. This was probably the beginning of the on-air joking and ribbing that developed about him during the daytime shows. Nevertheless, Dan's description does fit better for some of the evenings I've listened to him. When he got that way, a quote from the play/movie 1776 is an apt description: "That man could depress an hyena." Ted did far better in the rain-delay Sox Talk format than in his own show -- I guess because the callers tended to be more varied (as they were from the entire Red Sox Radio Network listener base), and he actually would let them talk and interact with them in an intelligent way. One call that remains memorable to me was from a gent in Sydney, Austrailia who listened to the games over the Internet. As for the politics -- what is it about sports-radio types that tends to lean to the right? Especially with the ex-football jocks Fred Smyerlas and Steve DiOssie that guest on the Big Show. Of course, Fred was recently revealed to be, shall we say, a bit disingenuous when, after ranting about France this and France that in 2003, he went off to -- where else -- France for a vacation? And came back with a completely different opinion about the place. Generally, though, I tune into WEEI because it's live, local, funny, and largely talks about SPORTS. I love it when both D & C are on vacation (or at least when Callahan is gone) -- because then the morning show stays 'on point' and doesn't wander off into the tiresome weeds of Boston or national politics. John Francini At 18:17 -0400 10/1/05, Dan Strassberg wrote: >Earnest; I guess that's a polite way of describing Sarandis's manner. At >first, I described it as an uncanny ability to find the dark cloud wrapped >around any silver lining. And then, for me, at least, his manner turned >into obvious disdain for the listeners and apparent total boredom with what >he was doing on the air. As Entercom restructures WRKO, they should consider >Ted for issue-oriented talk. His ultra-right, neo-con views fit perfectly >with those that prevail at THE talk station. And sometimes, his anger >matches Michael Savage's polemics. I hardly listen to WRKO anymore and if >Ted were there, I'd listen even less (if that were possible). That wouldn't >bother Entercom; though; they aren't interested in my demo. > >-- >Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net >eFax 707-215-6367 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John J. Francini" >To: >Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:00 PM >Subject: Re: BRW: Sarandis to leave WEEI -- ---- John Francini +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; | | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress.| | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" | | -- John Adams | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Oct 1 23:30:24 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 23:30:24 -0400 Subject: BRW: Sarandis to leave WEEI In-Reply-To: References: <002d01c5c6d6$17787b40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510012030s226048a4qee50dad1146d6483@mail.gmail.com> >>what is it about sports-radio types that tends to lean to the right? I don't know, but I'm picturing liberal sports talk radio: --Why the Cleveland Indians should change their name/logo --Why it's so unfair that one team has to win. Let's not keep score. (Don't laugh--this is being done in some schools.) --Why the government should be in every facet of our lives--but taxpayer funded stadiums? NO WAY! :) Ted was definitely different in that he was much more serious, unlike the freewheeling, irreverent hosts on earlier in the day. And you want a big contrast? Stay tuned at midnight for something completely different: J.T. The Brick, where he encourages listeners to be passionate (AND YELL A LOT) and "live and die for their teams". No sedate talk here, "are you frickin' kidding me?," as JT would say. I used to wonder why Ted never let kids or teens call in--he'd notice a listener who somehow got through his call screener that sounded like he's 17 or 18 or even younger, and then he'd rudely tell the kid to call back in about 10 or 15 years. Later I found out that WEEI's policy is apparently to not allow people under a certain age on. Now, who's to say that some kid that age might actually have something interesting to say, and might be a big sports buff? Sure, WEEI has their policy, but Ted could have just said, "Excuse me, but how old are you...16? We have a policy that you have to be at least 20 to call. Sorry about that" Maybe Ted really said something like that on occasion, but during those times he cut off these callers he sounded like an old sourpuss. Sure, "them's the rules", but at least SAY so on the air, Ted... From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Oct 2 01:02:16 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 01:02:16 -0400 Subject: WBZ's new 'style' In-Reply-To: <000a01c5c6a7$a79b2d50$4900a8c0@Andrastea> References: <9360CF82-0657-467D-AB92-9FFD304E5CFB@charter.net> Message-ID: <433F3198.27481.70A021@localhost> On 1 Oct 2005 at 12:46, Brian Vita wrote: > >"The newswatch never stops" and now "give us 22 minutes". What's > >next for WBZ? A teletype machine bed during the news? > > Playing devil's advocate for a moment... > What good would that SFX do? How many Gen-Xer's know what a teletype > is, let alone what it sounds like? Well, as a small child, I didn't know what it was, but when I heard the sound of a teletype during TV or radio news, it sounded really cool. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Oct 2 01:02:17 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 01:02:17 -0400 Subject: WBZ's new 'style' In-Reply-To: <20051001173609.B536CCA071@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <433F3199.19679.70A127@localhost> On 1 Oct 2005 at 12:36, Laurence Glavin wrote: > How about what has become a sound-effect cliche for an interruption: > the sound of a phonograph needle being dragged acroos the grooves of > an LP? And some NPR show use the sound of a typewriter when they read > listener mail, most of which is e-mail. I think that many of our symbols are perpetually behind the times. When I was a child in the 1950s, I remember seeing comic-strip police officers wearing star-shaped badges and helmet- like hats and cars that looked like something out of the 1920s. Dagwood wore garters to hold up his socks. Mutt & Jeff were wearing white gloves well into the 1960s or 70s, and Mickey Mouse still wears them. Vinyl disks are still used for some purposes for special effects by modern rock bands, and I think today's kids probably know what they are. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From francini@mac.com Sun Oct 2 03:42:49 2005 From: francini@mac.com (John J. Francini) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 03:42:49 -0400 Subject: BRW: Sarandis to leave WEEI In-Reply-To: <00f801c5c722$7600b320$6401a8c0@xyz> References: <002d01c5c6d6$17787b40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <00f801c5c722$7600b320$6401a8c0@xyz> Message-ID: Now there's a jingle that I haven't heard for a long time! yeah, you're probably right. Even so, in a fairly liberal state, it's rather surprising that so many members of the (largely home-grown) on-air talent are conservative politically. Nevertheless, as Bill Parcells would say, "it is what it is". As long as they keep political mentions to a bare minimum (as Dale and Holley do), I don't care one whit. It's when they make their politics a front-and-center aspect of their show (D & C in particular, and Ted Nation on occasion) that it starts bothering me. I guess the second reason why it bothers me is that they're not _good_ at the political stuff. When the politics comes out, the humor and wit that marks the sports discussions seems to disappear. It's outside their ken and they know it. John At 3:25 -0400 10/2/05, Rob wrote: > > As for the politics -- what is it about sports-radio types that tends >> to lean to the right? > >I don't know, I just keep thinking of that jingle... > >"Baseball, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie and Chevrolet!" > >Isn't sports by it's nature red, white, blue, conservative and patriotic? > >I mean star-spangled banner and all that? -- ---- John Francini +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; | | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress.| | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" | | -- John Adams | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From francini@mac.com Sun Oct 2 04:00:22 2005 From: francini@mac.com (John J. Francini) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 04:00:22 -0400 Subject: BRW: Sarandis to leave WEEI In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0510012030s226048a4qee50dad1146d6483@mail.gmail.com> References: <002d01c5c6d6$17787b40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <1fbbbced0510012030s226048a4qee50dad1146d6483@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 23:30 -0400 10/1/05, Bob Nelson wrote: > >>what is it about sports-radio types that tends >to lean to the right? > >I don't know, but I'm picturing liberal sports talk radio: > >--Why the Cleveland Indians should change their name/logo Gack. The same sort of thing that's been attacking other teams that use similar names of late. > >--Why it's so unfair that one team has to win. Let's not keep score. >(Don't laugh--this is being done in some schools.) I'd heard about that. So that the poor dears won't develop a complex or something like that. Drivel. As Homo Sapiens, we are what we are. We're wired (not culturally conditioned, but _wired_) to compete against one another. To even think that it can be whitewashed out of us is intellectual folly of the worst kind. > >--Why the government should be in every facet of our lives--but >taxpayer funded >stadiums? NO WAY! :) Or as the former Mass. Senate president used to say (and which was repeated ad nauseum on WEEI: "You can chisel that on my gravestone!" I guess the idea is that, to the seriously liberal mind, sports stadia and the games therein are a throwback, a stark reminder of our baser, competitive natures. Therefore, if we must have the damnable things around, complete with overpaid Neandertals on the field and nearly-as-bad fans frothing at the mouth in alcohol-induced frenzy, _we_ (the better-than-thou types) are damn well not going to let it be paid for from the public purse. > >Ted was definitely different in that he was much more serious, unlike >the freewheeling, >irreverent hosts on earlier in the day. And you want a big contrast? >Stay tuned at >midnight for something completely different: J.T. The Brick, where >he encourages >listeners to be passionate (AND YELL A LOT) and "live and die for >their teams". >No sedate talk here, "are you frickin' kidding me?," as JT would say. Indeed. Even though JTTB's stuff is more schtick than the Boston hosts (how can it not be when you're hosting a nationwide show?), it fits the station's mold much better than Ted Nation. What I'd never understood was why he had such good ratings numbers. >I used to wonder why Ted never let kids or teens call in--he'd notice >a listener who somehow got through his call screener that sounded like >he's 17 or 18 or >even younger, and then he'd rudely tell the kid to call back in about >10 or 15 years. I'd heard that too. Nothing like public embarrassment to potentially sour someone on calling in for years to come. >Later I found out that WEEI's policy is apparently to not allow people >under a certain age on. Now, who's to say that some kid that age might >actually have something interesting to say, and might be a big sports >buff? Sure, WEEI has their policy, but Ted could have just said, >"Excuse me, but how old are you...16? We have a policy that you have >to be at least 20 to call. Sorry about that" Maybe Ted really said >something like that on occasion, >but during those times he cut off these callers he sounded like an old >sourpuss. Sure, >"them's the rules", but at least SAY so on the air, Ted... There actually HAVE been occasions when someone like that (an eloquent teenager) has gotten through on the other shows and made a substantial contribution. But these are outnumbered by the times that kids have gotten through and have found themselves caught out with the audio equivalent of 'deer-in-the-headlights' syndrome. Even so, Ted could well have done better. John -- ---- John Francini +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; | | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress.| | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" | | -- John Adams | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Oct 2 05:32:03 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 05:32:03 -0400 Subject: BRW: Sarandis to leave WEEI In-Reply-To: References: <002d01c5c6d6$17787b40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <1fbbbced0510012030s226048a4qee50dad1146d6483@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510020232i3cdc1d55ma264433b5b9a1c0c@mail.gmail.com> On 10/2/05, John J. Francini wrote: > I'd heard about that. So that the poor dears won't develop a complex > or something like that. Drivel. As Homo Sapiens, we are what we are. > We're wired (not culturally conditioned, but _wired_) to compete > against one another. To even think that it can be whitewashed out of > us is intellectual folly of the worst kind. Which is why things like Little League are good because it teaches kids about winning...and losing...and how to handle it. How not to get too "high" about winning, or too "low" about losing. Yes, you'll see the losing team in the Little League World Series, and the 12 year old players might have a few tears when they lose (and yes, it's a lot of pressure) but the kids are learning about competition, and life. Trying, working, and dealing with adversity. > I guess the idea is that, to the seriously liberal mind, sports > stadia and the games therein are a throwback, a stark reminder of our > baser, competitive natures. Therefore, if we must have the damnable > things around, complete with overpaid Neandertals on the field and > nearly-as-bad fans frothing at the mouth in alcohol-induced frenzy, > _we_ (the better-than-thou types) are damn well not going to let it > be paid for from the public purse. And they may agree with conservatives, suddenly, about keeping an eye on "spending" even if it may mean that a new stadium would bring in revenue. It was good that Robert Kraft spent his own money to build his new stadium, and yes the state did kick in SOME money for road infastructure...and yes, there's some tax money now flowing in to the Foxboro area as a result. But it's good the state wasn't financing any of Gillette Stadium. It could have easily been a "public-private partnership", which, as Howie Carr puts it, is when "public money winds up going into private hands"...and yes, the road improvements might be an example of that, but at least it wasn't a HUGE amount (compared to what funding of the _stadium_ by the state could have been!) > Indeed. Even though JTTB's stuff is more schtick than the Boston > hosts (how can it not be when you're hosting a nationwide show?), it > fits the station's mold much better than Ted Nation. Yes. > What I'd never understood was why he had such good ratings numbers. Well, he does have some sports knowledge and he brings in guests plus has regular callers like baseball expert "Ray from Lynn". I haven't heard him lately because when there's no Sox game, or a rain delay, I'll tune to Ingraham or Hannity on WTKK instead, but it seemed in the past that there was some interesting discussion (even if Ted himself could have been a bit of a turnoff.) The "serious, sedate" feel can be a turn-off to those more into things like "The Big Show". On kids calling in: > I'd heard that too. Nothing like public embarrassment to potentially > sour someone on calling in for years to come. What's the matter, Ted...afraid one of these kids might take your job someday? :) From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sun Oct 2 07:35:59 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 07:35:59 -0400 Subject: JJ Wright To Overnights Message-ID: <000501c5c745$76a93a40$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Saw a note and then did some inquiring. JJ has been moved from PM Drive on WODS to overnights. Coming to PM Drive: Karen Blake. Imho, not a very good move on the part of WODS. Karen has a market history and is a nice person, but it's hard to envision her on 'ODS. Just another kick in the can(s) for JJ, though. Somehow, I think he'll land on his feet doing better than he did before. He still has his home studio and is the voice for 'BZ. Reminds me of when other on-air types in dominant dayparts were shifted to nights and a subsequent hue & cry brought 'em back. Chuck Igo From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sun Oct 2 10:22:34 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:22:34 -0400 Subject: WBZ's new 'style' Message-ID: <200510021022.AA424476986@mail.ttlc.net> "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: >On 1 Oct 2005 at 12:36, Laurence Glavin wrote: > >> How about what has become a sound-effect cliche for an interruption: >> the sound of a phonograph needle being dragged acroos the grooves of >> an LP? And some NPR show use the sound of a typewriter when they read >> listener mail, most of which is e-mail. > >Vinyl disks are still used for some purposes for special effects by >modern rock bands, and I think today's kids probably know what they >are. Given that "scratching" by club DJ's is still in vogue (they still sell 12" vinyl) many should know what it is. Back in the late 80's early 90's, there was apopular Music Video (on MTV, no less) that had a DJ "scratching" on dual turntables - throughout the entire video. From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sun Oct 2 10:28:03 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:28:03 -0400 Subject: JJ Wright To Overnights Message-ID: <200510021028.AA1606746270@mail.ttlc.net> "Chuck Igo" wrote: >JJ has been moved from PM Drive on WODS to overnights. Coming to PM >Drive: Karen Blake. Were his ratings down? From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Oct 2 13:28:03 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 12:28:03 -0500 Subject: BRW: Sarandis to leave WEEI Message-ID: <20051002172803.9663FCA071@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John J. Francini" >To: "Bob Nelson" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: BRW: Sarandis to leave WEEI >Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 04:00:22 -0400 > > At 23:30 -0400 10/1/05, Bob Nelson wrote: > > >>what is it about sports-radio types that tends > > to lean to the right? > > > > I don't know, but I'm picturing liberal sports talk radio: > > > > --Why the Cleveland Indians should change their name/logo > > Gack. The same sort of thing that's been attacking other teams that > use similar names of late. > > The reason this issue has arisen "of late" is because the NCAA announced that post-season games will not be played on the field of a team that uses an Indian, i.e. Native-American, logo or nickname. You can read the statement for yourselves by going to their website and downloading the document. It only take a few seconds... oh, and I do believe it resides on an Apache server. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Oct 2 22:26:38 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:26:38 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Miller returns to the air! Message-ID: I'm pleased to announce that Larry Miller, one of the pioneering DJ's of the "FM underground" radio movement of the 1960's, is joining the "Lost and Found" 1960's/70's music program at WMBR, MIT's all-volunteer non-commercial college and community station! A little history: Until around 1966/1967, FM consisted of stations programming mainly classical, jazz, and background "elevator" music (when not simulcasting their AM partners). Rock'n'roll music was represented mainly on Top 40 stations on the AM band. Except for a few eclectic shows on non-commercial stations (including MIT's WTBS, now WMBR) there was not yet such a thing as "album rock" radio on the FM band, nor on any commercial radio stations for that matter. In 1966, legendary New York DJ's such as Scott Muni and Murray The K briefly experimented with a "deeper" approach to rock music programming on pioneering NYC FM rock station WOR-FM before WNEW-FM and WABC-FM/WPLJ became established as NYC's progressive album rockers, and in Boston, Dick Summer on WBZ evenings explored a "mellower" adult style of rock programming which was a precursor to what eventually became "soft rock". The doors to progressive "underground" rock programming were blown open a few months later in the Bay Area when Larry Miller joined foundering, brokered-time FM station KMPX San Francisco for a "free-form" overnight program in February 1967, blending the album rock of the day with folk, blues, jazz, R&B, and whatever else fit in while establishing a "flow" and creating thematic sets, creative elements which were generally not part of formatted AM Top 40 radio. Larry's KMPX program also included album material from new local area artists of the day, which then included Jefferson Airplane, Janis Joplin, The Doors, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Buffalo Springfield, The Grateful Dead, and many others who defined the psychedelic west coast sound at the time. A few months later in April 1967, the late Tom Donahue took over as Program Director of KMPX, expanding the concept which Larry had begun into a full-time format, thereby claiming historical credit as pioneer of the "FM underground" progressive album rock format (for the west coast anyway). Following a labor strike at KMPX in 1968, Donahue and most of the staff moved over to KSAN, which became legendary as San Francisco's FM album rock station throughout the 1970's. Many such stations were springing up in many major cities by then (such as Boston's WBCN in March 1968), and Larry then returned to Detroit (where he previously hosted a program on classical WDTM in the early 60's), and joined Detroit's burgeoning "FM underground" album rock station WABX for a three year stint in their "progressive" heyday. The early 70's brought Larry back and forth across the country to major FM progressive rock stations including KLOS in Los Angeles, WPLJ New York City, and WBAB on Long Island until finally landing in Boston in 1977 where I remember first hearing him on WCOZ 94.5, a progressive album rock station which gave Boston's FM album rock leader WBCN a run for their money for a few years in the late 70's. When WCOZ switched to a brief flash-in-the-pan hard rock format in 1979 (it's now urban "Jammin' 94.5" WJMN), Larry moved to the wonderful but short lived folk/folk-rock station WCAS 740 AM in Cambridge. (WCAS went under in 1982 and became gospel station WLVG, and is now WJIB, a great independently owned station in it's own right). As FM rock radio became more mainstream in the 1980's, Larry decided to retire from the format. He was from the progressive "free-form" radio school of the late 60's, and he felt that the more formatted direction it was taking was not for him. He then briefly played country-rock with a few former WCAS DJ's on WDLW 1330 AM (now WRCA), then returned to classical programming on WBUR (before they went all-news), WCRB, and WBOQ (now oldies "North Shore 104.9"). Larry is now retired from professional radio and is teaching communications here in the Boston area, and is joining WMBR's all-volunteer staff. He will be hosting the 1960's/70's music show "Lost and Found" this season in my former (1983 to 1995) time slot, Tuesdays 12 noon to 2 PM, beginning October 4'th. "Lost and Found" is WMBR's long-running (25 years!) mid-day 1960's/70's music program, showcasing a wide variety of "lost" tracks from the era including pop, rock, R&B, soul and more, with a different host each weekday. Larry will be recapturing the flavor of 1960's "FM underground" progressive radio in his Tuesday slot. I left WMBR for three years in 1995, and returned in 1998 to host the "Lost & Found" Thursday slot until a year ago last week, when I retired from the show. (I no longer have the time or finances in my life to support doing weekly volunteer radio in today's economy). However, I will be returning to assist Larry some with his Tuesday slot, and perhaps may sit in from time to time. My version of the "Lost & Found" show was an imitation of what I heard listening to "FM underground" progressive rock programming on Boston area stations like WTBS and WBCN in the late 60's. I could only emulate what I had heard through young ears many years before. Larry Miller was one of the pioneers of that radio sound, he was really there. It will be an honor to be participating in radio with him at WMBR. WMBR can be heard at 88.1 FM in greater Boston, northeastern and parts of central Massachusetts and areas of southern New Hampshire. WMBR also streams live on the web at http://www.wmbr.org Eli Polonsky From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Oct 2 23:15:57 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 23:15:57 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Miller returns to the air! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20051002231310.02ca8d80@pop.registeredsite.com> >Eli wrote-- > >The doors to progressive "underground" rock programming were >blown open a few months later in the Bay Area when Larry Miller >joined foundering, brokered-time FM station KMPX San Francisco >for a "free-form" overnight program in February 1967, blending >the album rock of the day with folk, blues, jazz, R&B, and >whatever else fit in while establishing a "flow" and creating >thematic sets, creative elements which were generally not part >of formatted AM Top 40 radio. Do ask Larry about the other person who joined KMPX with him and was equally instrumental in the success of what was then free-form progressive music-- a guy named Tim Powell. His contributions to what became Album Rock are often overlooked. Nice to see Larry back in the biz again, by the way. From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Oct 2 23:32:53 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 23:32:53 -0400 Subject: WBZ's new 'style' In-Reply-To: <200510021022.AA424476986@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <43406E25.96.36FFE7@localhost> On 2 Oct 2005 at 10:22, rogerkirk wrote: > Given that "scratching" by club DJ's is still in vogue (they still > sell 12" vinyl) many should know what it is. Back in the late 80's > early 90's, there was apopular Music Video (on MTV, no less) that had > a DJ "scratching" on dual turntables - throughout the entire video. And I think just a couple of years ago I saw a music video which showed a vinyl record playing on a radio station turntable and, later, an AM-only car radio dial. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Oct 2 23:32:53 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 23:32:53 -0400 Subject: BRW: Sarandis to leave WEEI In-Reply-To: References: <1fbbbced0510012030s226048a4qee50dad1146d6483@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43406E25.10371.3700C8@localhost> On 2 Oct 2005 at 4:00, John J. Francini wrote: > There actually HAVE been occasions when someone like that (an > eloquent teenager) has gotten through on the other shows and made a > substantial contribution. But these are outnumbered by the times that > kids have gotten through and have found themselves caught out with the > audio equivalent of 'deer-in-the-headlights' syndrome. Even so, Ted > could well have done better. I seem to remember that when Jerry Williams was doing his late evening talk show on WMEX, he required people be 21 to call in, and I don't think he was very nice about it when he caught an under-21 calling in. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sun Oct 2 23:57:59 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 23:57:59 -0400 Subject: WBZ's new 'style' Message-ID: <200510022357.AA2714435828@mail.ttlc.net> "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: > >And I think just a couple of years ago I saw a music video which >showed a vinyl record playing on a radio station turntable and, >later, an AM-only car radio dial. This weekend, during CSI Weekends on myTV (Channel 50 in Derry, NH) I saw a Comcast commercial featuring an elderly couple dancing to music from a very, very bad stereotyped party DJ playing vinyl LPs. From stevewest106@hotmail.com Mon Oct 3 05:04:38 2005 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:04:38 -0500 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Miller returns tothe air! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm totally blown away at the depth of your knowledge of FM Progressive Rock radio. You could teach us all a lot! I think once I'm fully moved in up in Mass next month, we programmer types need to get together (Steve's thinking: Wonder if Eli would like to do some history for airchexx.com?....) >In 1966, legendary New York DJ's such as Scott Muni and Murray >The K briefly experimented with a "deeper" approach to rock >music programming on pioneering NYC FM rock station WOR-FM >before WNEW-FM and WABC-FM/WPLJ became established as NYC's >progressive album rockers, and in Boston, Dick Summer on WBZ >evenings explored a "mellower" adult style of rock programming >which was a precursor to what eventually became "soft rock". > I hate to move in a slightly different direction, but I don't remember WBZ when they did anything but talk. Do remember when the news block ended at 6pm, then 8pm.... seemed like whenever Don Batting decided to end it that season... anyway, what did Dick Summer do on WBZ and when did he do it? I know in the mid-70s Summer was on WNBC New York, then on it's sister WYNY, but I'm kinda unfamiliar with his schtick on WBZ. > >When WCOZ switched to a brief flash-in-the-pan hard rock format >in 1979 (it's now urban "Jammin' 94.5" WJMN), Larry moved to the >wonderful but short lived folk/folk-rock station WCAS 740 AM in >Cambridge. (WCAS went under in 1982 and became gospel station >WLVG, and is now WJIB, a great independently owned station in >it's own right). I was just getting into FM 'progressive' stuff in the late 70s after hangin with AM top 40s like WLS and KB for years when I discovered the hard rock version of WCOZ. I *thought* that that was the way FM rock stations were supposed to be. It wasn't until I heard some WPLJ airchecks, that I realized AOR was such a most diverse and rich format. That said, has anyone heard some of the 'new' AOR stations out there? Down here in Memphis, 98.1 WXMX 'The Maxx' is as close as I have heard in years to an old AOR format, where they play album cuts from past and present along with Rock hits. It's not really taking off, but it's interesting. AOR was dead as a proverbial doornail for 15 years, but it's possible radio has become so stale that now is a good time to revive a great format. From elipolo@earthlink.net Mon Oct 3 07:21:05 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 07:21:05 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Miller returns tothe air! Message-ID: --- Steve West wrote: > I'm totally blown away at the depth of your knowledge of > FM Progressive Rock radio. You could teach us all a lot! I did a show emulating that style on non-commercial radio for 22 years, so it's definitely one of my interests. However, being a native Bostonian, any history I mentioned about other areas was all stuff I had read, researched, or heard about. I've listened to radio continuously since 1966, but have never spent much time outside the Boston/New England area. > I think once I'm fully moved in up in Mass next month, we > programmer types need to get together (Steve's thinking: > Wonder if Eli would like to do some history for airchexx.com?..) Perhaps, let me know. I hope to finally get some of my own airchecks organized this fall/winter as well. > I hate to move in a slightly different direction, but I don't > remember WBZ when they did anything but talk. > What did Dick Summer do on WBZ and when did he do it? I > know in the mid-70s Summer was on WNBC New York, then on it's > sister WYNY, but I'm kinda unfamiliar with his schtick on WBZ. When I began listening in 1966, WBZ was a true "full service" station. Music, news, sports, public affairs, the whole gamut. The music in the daytime was a somewhat more adult version of Top 40 with a more relaxed delivery than AM Top 40 competitor WMEX, known for it's manic delivery and wacky jingles and DJ's. Within a year or so after WNAC 680 AM flipped to WRKO in early 1967 and stole the Boston Top 40 audience with the slick Drake Top 40 format, WBZ continued to remain "full-service", but had switched their music to a more MOR sound (similar to "Soft AC" nowadays), though still "hipper" than MOR WHDH 850 (now WEEI), which was playing what would now be called adult standards. (WMEX kept plugging away with variations of Top 40 until the mid 1970's, but was hampered by a poor signal in the west suburbs). The percentage of music on WBZ slowly dwindled in the 1980's, and the amount of news, talk and public affairs grew until music was completely discontinued at the start of the first Gulf War in 1991 (also the time when WBUR eliminated practically all music). Dick Summer was on WBZ evenings from 1963 to 1968. I didn't hear his first programs, but by the mid-60's his show was called "Subway", an exploration of early mellower album rock, folk, and some of the "hipper" pop of the day. (Bear in mind that rock music was still mainly concentrating on singles then. Album rock was just beginning to start with the "psychedelic" movement). This was innovative in it's time, as there was still no other commercial album rock radio in the area. Toward the end of his WBZ stint (before moving to New York's progressive WNEW-FM), Summer changed the show to "The Lovin' Touch", mellow album rock with a romantic focus, complete with poetry and story readings. > >When WCOZ switched to a brief flash-in-the-pan hard rock format > >in 1979 (it's now urban "Jammin' 94.5" WJMN), Larry moved to the > >wonderful but short lived folk/folk-rock station WCAS 740 AM in > >Cambridge. > > I was just getting into FM 'progressive' stuff in the late 70s > after hangin' with AM top 40s like WLS and KB for years when I > discovered the hard rock version of WCOZ. I *thought* that that > was the way FM rock stations were supposed to be. It wasn't until > I heard some WPLJ airchecks, that I realized AOR was such a most > diverse and rich format. That said, has anyone heard some of the > 'new' AOR stations out there? Down here in Memphis, 98.1 WXMX > 'The Maxx' is as close as I have heard in years to an old AOR > format, where they play album cuts from past and present along > with Rock hits. It's not really taking off, but it's interesting. > AOR was dead as a proverbial doornail for 15 years, but it's > possible radio has become so stale that now is a good time to > revive a great format. Well, AOR was actually a 70's evolution of the "FM underground" stations of the 60's and early 70's. "Underground" was more "free- form", and at most of those stations the DJ's selected all the music. Though album rock was the focus, DJ's could throw things of practically any eclectic genre at you as well during a program. AOR was a more formatted version with an increasing amount of playlisting, and the weird eclectic stuff of other genres was dropped. It was still a very deep range of progressive album rock, but with less freedom of selection by the DJ's. Times have changed greatly, and I'd venture to say that "free-form" could never make it on a commercial station today. Perhaps a version of AOR could in some areas, I don't know. Some AAA stations are sort of like today's version of that, but I've seen commercial stations try going more deeply into album rock in recent years, and it's always tanked them in the ratings, the experiments never lasted. Whatever you call it, "Free-form", "underground", "progressive", AOR, etc... it came around at a time when FM endeavored to be an alternative to AM, which was then the music mainstream. Now AM has (almost) no music, FM is the music mainstream, and stations that don't play to the mainstream fail to make it financially in major markets today. I know of one commercial station in New England that musically fits your description above of an AOR station, that's Dennis Jackson's WCLX-FM 102.9, which serves the Burlington, VT market from across the Champlain in Westport, NY. It's run and hosted by a husband and wife team, I believe the studios are actually in their house. When they're not hosting live, it's automated. It's a wide variety of album rock from the 60's through today. The Burlington ratings are not published to the public, so I can't say how they're doing, but they seem to be hanging in there with sponsors in the area. Eli Polonsky From cohasset@frontiernet.net Mon Oct 3 06:33:59 2005 From: cohasset@frontiernet.net (Cohasset / Hippisley) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 10:33:59 +0000 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Miller returns tothe air! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43410917.7030209@frontiernet.net> Steve West wrote: > I hate to move in a slightly different direction, but I don't remember > WBZ when they did anything but talk. Do remember when the news block > ended at 6pm, then 8pm.... seemed like whenever Don Batting decided to > end it that season... anyway, what did Dick Summer do on WBZ and when > did he do it? WBZ had a Top 30 (complete with little printed sheets for record store counter-tops) during the mid-60s. As I recall, Dick Summer was there ca. 1966 - 67. Bud Hippisley From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Oct 3 13:29:31 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 13:29:31 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Miller returns tothe air! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20051003132743.02db4988@pop.registeredsite.com> At 04:04 AM 10/3/2005 -0500, Steve West wrote: >I'm totally blown away at the depth of your knowledge of FM Progressive >Rock radio. You could teach us all a lot! > >I think once I'm fully moved in up in Mass next month, we programmer types >need to get together Steve-- where you gonna be working? We oughta get together for sure. You should see my collection of rare memorabilia from radio history in Boston. Somebody mentioned what WBZ did before going all-talk. They transitioned to the all-talk format gradually, beginning in the early 80s and culminating in 1992, if I recall correctly. When I grew up, they were top-40, although sort of chicken-rock. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Oct 3 14:32:24 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 14:32:24 -0400 Subject: new year greetings Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20051003143052.09578760@pop.registeredsite.com> A happy, healthy and peaceful new year to all Jewish members of this list. May we all live to see a world where there is tolerance, respect and kindness. From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Oct 3 15:39:40 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 15:39:40 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Millerreturns tothe air! Message-ID: <200510031539.AA813957332@mail.ttlc.net> Eli Polonsky wrote: >Times have changed greatly, and I'd venture to say that "free-form" >could never make it on a commercial station today. Perhaps a version >of AOR could in some areas, I don't know. Some AAA stations are sort >of like today's version of that, but I've seen commercial stations >try going more deeply into album rock in recent years, and it's >always tanked them in the ratings, the experiments never lasted. Of course, back the (60's) stations like WBCN had '0' ratings to start with, so they had nowhere to go but up. I'm sure WBCN wasn't an instant hit and took time to grow - with some mistakes along the way. Today, no station can afford (figuratively and literally) to experiment for even a nanosecond, because the stockholders won't abide it. One down book can spell death for a PD. From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Oct 3 18:13:43 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:13:43 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Millerreturns tothe air! In-Reply-To: <200510031539.AA813957332@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200510031539.AA813957332@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: At 3:39 PM -0400 10/3/05, rogerkirk wrote: > >Of course, back the (60's) stations like WBCN had '0' ratings to >start with, so they had nowhere to go but up. I'm sure WBCN wasn't >an instant hit and took time to grow - with some mistakes along the >way. In the 60's an FM radio in a car was an oddity. I didn't have my first FM car radio until 1973, it was a manually tuned (with a dial) Audiovox that I bought at a stereo store. FM radios as factory equipment didn't become popular until later in the 70's as I recall. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Oct 3 18:16:22 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:16:22 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Millerreturns tothe air! In-Reply-To: References: <200510031539.AA813957332@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <17217.44470.84966.327791@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > In the 60's an FM radio in a car was an oddity. I didn't have my > first FM car radio until 1973, it was a manually tuned (with a dial) > Audiovox that I bought at a stereo store. FM radios as factory > equipment didn't become popular until later in the 70's as I recall. And FM radios remained optional for quite some time. I remember the first car my parents bought with FM standard was in 1987. (It replaced a 1983 model which was AM-only.) -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Mon Oct 3 18:24:15 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:24:15 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Millerreturns tothe air! In-Reply-To: <17217.44470.84966.327791@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <200510031539.AA813957332@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20051003182219.0404a8f0@gwind.pair.com> At 06:16 PM 10/3/2005 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: >And FM radios remained optional for quite some time. I remember the >first car my parents bought with FM standard was in 1987. (It >replaced a 1983 model which was AM-only.) We were a few years ahead of you in the Fybush household, where mom's 1973 Olds Omega (AM-only, black vinyl interior, banana-yellow exterior, and oh-so-1973) gave way to a 1981 Buick Skylark that had FM. It was just a year later that local AM top 40 giant WBBF flipped to talk, ceding top 40 in town to WHFM 98.9 and later WPXY 97.9. I maintain that there was a direct connection there! s From markwats@comcast.net Mon Oct 3 18:39:33 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:39:33 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Millerreturnstothe air! References: <200510031539.AA813957332@mail.ttlc.net> <17217.44470.84966.327791@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <002001c5c86b$54f9f390$69081f42@Mark> Garrett Wollman wrote: > And FM radios remained optional for quite some time. I remember the > first car my parents bought with FM standard was in 1987. (It > replaced a 1983 model which was AM-only.) My first car purchased in late 1981 was a 1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass 2-door. It had a factory installed AM/FM radio. I recall my first big road trip just after I put it on the road, to Portland ME on a rainy turned to snowy New Year's Day 1982. On the trip to Portland I recall listening to the "Star Station for Northern New England" WHEB (100.3 Portsmouth NH) which was AC at that time, and WJBQ (97.9 Portland ME) which was Top 40. Mark Watson From revdoug1@verizon.net Mon Oct 3 19:49:03 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:49:03 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Millerreturnstothe air! References: <200510031539.AA813957332@mail.ttlc.net> <17217.44470.84966.327791@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <055d01c5c875$0b03e2a0$6501a8c0@pastor2> My first FM car radio was an Audiovox converter, which I bought for my '63 LeSabre back when I was in college --- 1970 or thereabouts. If I recall correctly, I had to tune the AM to a certain frequency or blank spot on the dial, then push a button. Worked like a charm. While we're on this subject, I think we were the first family in Ashburnham to put up a UHF antenna, back when WIHS-TV 38 went on the air and WJZB-TV 14 was still running out of Worcester. My uncle, who lived in Schenectady, gave us his old Fada UHF converter, which he didn't need after WCDA-TV 41 and WTRI-TV 35 moved to VHF and became WTEN and WAST (now WNYT) respectively. We used it for several years, then put it in a yard sale when we bought a new TV with a UHF dial. Lo and behold, I was in Westminster one day about five years ago, stopped at a yard sale, and there was my uncle's old Fada converter. I should have bought it back --- it's such a nostalgic oddity, it'd probably be worth money. I've never seen another one. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Larry Weil" Cc: Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: RE: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Millerreturnstothe air! > < said: > > > In the 60's an FM radio in a car was an oddity. I didn't have my > > first FM car radio until 1973, it was a manually tuned (with a dial) > > Audiovox that I bought at a stereo store. FM radios as factory > > equipment didn't become popular until later in the 70's as I recall. > > And FM radios remained optional for quite some time. I remember the > first car my parents bought with FM standard was in 1987. (It > replaced a 1983 model which was AM-only.) > > -GAWollman > > From elipolo@earthlink.net Mon Oct 3 20:04:43 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 20:04:43 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Millerreturns tothe air! Message-ID: --- Larry Weil wrote: > At 3:39 PM -0400 10/3/05, rogerkirk wrote: > > > >Of course, back the (60's) stations like WBCN had '0' ratings to > >start with, so they had nowhere to go but up. I'm sure WBCN wasn't > >an instant hit and took time to grow - with some mistakes along > >the way. > > In the 60's an FM radio in a car was an oddity. I didn't have my > first FM car radio until 1973, it was a manually tuned (with a dial) > Audiovox that I bought at a stereo store. FM radios as factory > equipment didn't become popular until later in the 70's as I > recall. By the time the more formatted AOR became prevalent in the mid-70's, there were a number of FM radios available for cars. Though many were mono, people just wanted to get the music into the car. Many of us also plugged "FM converters" into the AM radios! However, the first FM "underground" or "free-form" stations were not really a car radio phenomenon in the 60's. Very few FM radios in cars yet, and the programming was geared more toward "grooving" at home with the headphones on, or sitting around with friends and a bottle of Ripple and a bag of *something* (for those who were so inclined), or for background music on the stereo in the local head shop. Eli Polonsky From lspin@comcast.net Mon Oct 3 22:16:42 2005 From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:16:42 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Millerreturnstothe air! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200510040219.j942J6u4077224@rolinin.bostonradio.org> This has been a really enjoyable thread. Reading this has reminded me of a product I used to see in the 70s (can't remember if it was Radio Shack or Lafayette)... It was an FM tuner cartridge that you could plug into your existing 8-Track player. Does anyone know of how well this did, or didn't, work? ------------------------------------ Eli Polonsky said: By the time the more formatted AOR became prevalent in the mid-70's, there were a number of FM radios available for cars. Though many were mono, people just wanted to get the music into the car. Many of us also plugged "FM converters" into the AM radios! From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Oct 4 01:06:19 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 01:06:19 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Miller returns tothe air! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4341D58B.22040.951A5F@localhost> On 3 Oct 2005 at 7:21, Eli Polonsky wrote: > Toward the end of his WBZ stint (before moving to New York's > progressive WNEW-FM), Summer changed the show to "The Lovin' > Touch", mellow album rock with a romantic focus, complete with > poetry and story readings. I seem to remember Dick Summer on WMEX in the late 60s or early 70s, and I think he was using the "Lovin' Touch" slogan then, too. I also seem to remembe a slogan of "The Human Thing" or something like that. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Oct 4 01:06:20 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 01:06:20 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Millerreturns tothe air! In-Reply-To: <200510031539.AA813957332@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <4341D58C.14384.951ADC@localhost> On 3 Oct 2005 at 15:39, rogerkirk wrote: > Of course, back the (60's) stations like WBCN had '0' ratings to start > with, so they had nowhere to go but up. I'm sure WBCN wasn't an > instant hit and took time to grow - with some mistakes along the way. Indeed they weren't. What they won't admit today is that WBCN started in 1958 as a classical music station. They were the flagship for a chain of stations called the "Concert Network," which included WXCN Providence, WHCH Hartford, and WNCN New York. They didn't shift to progressive rock until around 1969. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Oct 4 01:06:20 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 01:06:20 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Millerreturns tothe air! In-Reply-To: References: <200510031539.AA813957332@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <4341D58C.7442.951B9F@localhost> On 3 Oct 2005 at 18:13, Larry Weil wrote: > In the 60's an FM radio in a car was an oddity. I didn't have my > first FM car radio until 1973, it was a manually tuned (with a dial) > Audiovox that I bought at a stereo store. FM radios as factory > equipment didn't become popular until later in the 70's as I recall. Sometime in the 1980s I bought an under-the-dash FM converter which worked by converting FM signals to 1400 AM and feeding them into the existing car radio, which had to be set at 1400 to hear the FM. Eventually, I took over my parents' 1977 Oldsmobile, which was the first car I ever saw to have FM in the car. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From hykker@grolen.com Tue Oct 4 08:55:53 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 08:55:53 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Millerreturnstothe air! In-Reply-To: <200510040219.j942J6u4077224@rolinin.bostonradio.org> References: <200510040219.j942J6u4077224@rolinin.bostonradio.org> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20051004085031.01c5be98@pop3.grolen.com> Lou wrote: >This has been a really enjoyable thread. Reading this has reminded me of a >product I used to see in the 70s (can't remember if it was Radio Shack or >Lafayette)... It was an FM tuner cartridge that you could plug into your >existing 8-Track player. Does anyone know of how well this did, or didn't, >work? I had one of those...didn't work worth beans. Never had much luck with the converters...unless you had very strong signals to work with they didn't work very well. They also had the selectivity of a barn door...a nearby strong signal would overload it. My first car FM radio (circa 1972) was an underdash combo 8-track player/FM radio. I think it was a Pioneer. Used it for many years until I got my first aftermarket in-dash AM/FM/cassette deck. It was a Pioneer "Supertuner", which was not "super" in any way whatsoever. Piece of junk! From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Tue Oct 4 10:06:11 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:06:11 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Miller returnstothe air! Message-ID: <200510041006.AA2763849998@mail.ttlc.net> "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: >I seem to remember Dick Summer on WMEX in the late 60s or early 70s, >and I think he was using the "Lovin' Touch" slogan then, too. I also >seem to remembe a slogan of "The Human Thing" or something like that. Was that the John H Garabedian slogan on WMEX in the early 70's - just before Mr. Richmond died? From hykker@grolen.com Tue Oct 4 18:56:51 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:56:51 -0400 Subject: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry Miller returnstothe air! In-Reply-To: <200510041006.AA2763849998@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200510041006.AA2763849998@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20051004185509.01b73280@pop3.grolen.com> rogerkirk wrote: >"A. Joseph Ross" wrote: > >I seem to remember Dick Summer on WMEX in the late 60s or early 70s, > >and I think he was using the "Lovin' Touch" slogan then, too. I also > >seem to remembe a slogan of "The Human Thing" or something like that. > >Was that the John H Garabedian slogan on WMEX in the early 70's - just >before Mr. Richmond died? No. Garabedian's slogan was "The New Music", the "Human Thing" pre-dated that by a couple years. From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Tue Oct 4 20:26:23 2005 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: What was the link to WBZ's audio stream Message-ID: <20051005002623.36817.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> A month or so ago someone posted here a link to WBZ's live internet audio stream. Mysteriously my list of streaming audio links disappeared from my computer - could someone please repost that so I can replace it on my computer. Thanks Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY ______________________________________________________ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Tue Oct 4 22:30:27 2005 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 22:30:27 -0400 Subject: What was the link to WBZ's audio stream In-Reply-To: <20051005002623.36817.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20051005002623.36817.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20051004222005.027fb120@pop.gis.net> http://www.wbz1030.com/ Click on "Listen Live" At 08:26 PM 10/4/2005, Matthew Osborne wrote: >A month or so ago someone posted here a link to WBZ's >live internet audio stream. Mysteriously my list of >streaming audio links disappeared from my computer - >could someone please repost that so I can replace it >on my computer. Thanks > > Matt Osborne > Schenectady, NY > > > > >______________________________________________________ >Yahoo! for Good >Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. >http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ From elipolo@earthlink.net Wed Oct 5 01:40:16 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 01:40:16 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Pioneer "SuperTuners" Message-ID: <5283042.1128490816883.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > From: SteveOrdinetz > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 08:55:53 -0400 > Subject: RE: WCOZ/WCAS DJ and "FM underground" pioneer Larry > Millerreturnstothe air! > > My first car FM radio (circa 1972) was an underdash combo 8-track player/FM > radio. I think it was a Pioneer. Used it for many years until I got my > first aftermarket in-dash AM/FM/cassette deck. It was a Pioneer > "Supertuner", which was not "super" in any way whatsoever. Piece > of junk! I remember that the early analog in-dash AM/FM/cassette "Supertuners" were trash, but the mid-70's underdash FM/cassette "Supertuners", the ones with the round dial (and no AM, unfortunately) were excellent on FM! The later digital tuning "Supertuners" seem pretty good, a cut above Sony's and others for FM performance (sensitivity, selectivity, intermod. rejection). EP From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Wed Oct 5 11:56:01 2005 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:56:01 +0000 Subject: What was the link to WBZ's audio stream Message-ID: <4343F791.60103@Gmail.com> Ron Bello wrote, > http://www.wbz1030.com/ > > Click on "Listen Live" > > >At 08:26 PM 10/4/2005, Matthew Osborne wrote: >> A month or so ago someone posted here a link to WBZ's >> live internet audio stream. Mysteriously my list of >> streaming audio links disappeared from my computer - >> could someone please repost that so I can replace it >>on my computer. Thanks Or, more directly to the stream: http://infinity.wm.llnwd.net/infinity_wbz-am ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Thu Oct 6 11:29:58 2005 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: We're cranking out 10,000 milliwatts of power!!! Message-ID: <20051006152959.53740.qmail@web52606.mail.yahoo.com> For my new job today I was just looking at various websites across the SUNY system and examining their design. While at the website of my alma mater, I saw something that almost made me fall out of my chair laughing. Read it for yourself, second sentence into the first paragraph... http://web.plattsburgh.edu/about/tour/wqke.php Nothing like trying to make a less than flea power operation look like something significant. I wonder how many people that read that don't realize that its really saying 10 watts. Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From xtrovato@yahoo.com Thu Oct 6 13:34:55 2005 From: xtrovato@yahoo.com (Rob) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 13:34:55 -0400 Subject: We're cranking out 10,000 milliwatts of power!!! References: <20051006152959.53740.qmail@web52606.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <014901c5ca9c$56112400$6401a8c0@xyz> > While at the website of my alma mater, I saw > something that almost made me fall out of my chair > laughing. Read it for yourself, second sentence into > the first paragraph... > > http://web.plattsburgh.edu/about/tour/wqke.php > > Nothing like trying to make a less than flea power > operation look like something significant. I wonder > how many people that read that don't realize that its > really saying 10 watts. Worse. The radio-info.com site says that "The Quake" is operating with NINE watts. ;-) http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wqke&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= BTW....I thought 10 watters were required to jump to 100 watts years ago. From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Oct 6 13:49:53 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 13:49:53 -0400 Subject: We're cranking out 10,000 milliwatts of power!!! In-Reply-To: <014901c5ca9c$56112400$6401a8c0@xyz> References: <20051006152959.53740.qmail@web52606.mail.yahoo.com> <014901c5ca9c$56112400$6401a8c0@xyz> Message-ID: <17221.25537.749454.844730@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: [BTW, can you please use your full name or air name when posting here?] > BTW....I thought 10 watters were required to jump to 100 watts years ago. Not quite. They were required to either upgrade to class A, or to move to the commercial band as a secondary service (same protection priority as translators). If they were unable to find a permissible spot in the commercial band, they could stay in the reserved band, again as a secondary service. If they were then bumped from the reserved band, and if no TV channel 6 is nearby, they were eligible to move to channel 200 (87.9 MHz). If else fails, the license is cancelled. -GAWollman From francini@mac.com Thu Oct 6 13:54:44 2005 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 13:54:44 -0400 Subject: We're cranking out 10,000 milliwatts of power!!! In-Reply-To: <014901c5ca9c$56112400$6401a8c0@xyz> References: <20051006152959.53740.qmail@web52606.mail.yahoo.com> <014901c5ca9c$56112400$6401a8c0@xyz> Message-ID: Entertaining. It's all a matter of the scale you're used to, I think... I imagine that someone working on electric power generators or major-league particle accelerators, who are used to dealing with megawatts, gigawatts, or terawatts of power would look askance at a 'mere' 50,000 Watts of Power (as WBZ Radio like to put it)... john francini On Oct 6, 2005, at 13:34, Rob wrote: > >> While at the website of my alma mater, I saw >> something that almost made me fall out of my chair >> laughing. Read it for yourself, second sentence into >> the first paragraph... >> >> http://web.plattsburgh.edu/about/tour/wqke.php >> >> Nothing like trying to make a less than flea power >> operation look like something significant. I wonder >> how many people that read that don't realize that its >> really saying 10 watts. > > Worse. The radio-info.com site says that "The Quake" is operating > with NINE > watts. ;-) > > http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder? > call=wqke&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= > > BTW....I thought 10 watters were required to jump to 100 watts years > ago. > From madprof@ix.netcom.com Thu Oct 6 22:15:41 2005 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:15:41 -0400 Subject: We're cranking out 10,000 milliwatts of power!!! References: <20051006152959.53740.qmail@web52606.mail.yahoo.com> <014901c5ca9c$56112400$6401a8c0@xyz> Message-ID: <008801c5cae5$0571e900$7c789c04@p133> oh yeah..... WMUA, UMass Amherst, did the same line when I was there, 1970-1971. (before it won an update to 1kw, & improved tower site & lately better yet site) I bet A.J Ross can confirm this. a great joke, flies right over non-engineering types. Thanks for the enjoyable reminder Bob Sutherland / Madprof From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Oct 6 23:40:35 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 23:40:35 -0400 Subject: We're cranking out 10,000 milliwatts of power!!! In-Reply-To: <008801c5cae5$0571e900$7c789c04@p133> Message-ID: <4345B5F3.23868.5B9D69@localhost> On 6 Oct 2005 at 22:15, Robert F. Sutherland wrote: > oh yeah..... WMUA, UMass Amherst, did the same line when I was there, > 1970-1971. (before it won an update to 1kw, & improved tower site & > lately better yet site) I bet A.J Ross can confirm this. a great > joke, flies right over non-engineering types. Thanks for the enjoyable > reminder Yes, that was after I graduated, but I remember knowing about it. I think it may have been in the planning stages when I was still there. They also moved the transmitter to the top of one of the Orchard Hill dorms, up on the hill. When I was a freshman, my parents came up to visit and had a good AM-FM portable radio with them. They said they first started to hear the station around Pelham, just one town away from Amherst. A few years ago after a station reunion, I kept listening while driving home, and the signal was listenable until Sturbridge. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From mamros@MIT.EDU Fri Oct 7 09:29:18 2005 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 09:29:18 -0400 Subject: We're cranking out 10,000 milliwatts of power!!! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:15:41 EDT." <008801c5cae5$0571e900$7c789c04@p133> Message-ID: <200510071329.j97DTICR007891@mass-toolpike.mit.edu> >oh yeah..... WMUA, UMass Amherst, did the same line when I was there, >1970-1971. Probably every low-powered station with at least some technical knowledge has done it at one point or another. From our own dusty archives at WMBR, I've heard the following from the days when we were a lowly Class D, pre-1979 (and I think it was a spoof of an even older WCBS ID): "At 20 million microwatts effective radiated power - this is the flagship station of the Technology Broadcasting System..." (failing to mention, of course, that it's the *only* station in said "system"!) -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Oct 7 11:56:07 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 10:56:07 -0500 Subject: We're cranking out 10,000 milliwatts of power!!! Message-ID: <20051007155607.8FCFC3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert F. Sutherland" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: We're cranking out 10,000 milliwatts of power!!! >Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:15:41 -0400 > > oh yeah..... WMUA, UMass Amherst, did the same line when I was there, > 1970-1971. > (before it won an update to 1kw, & improved tower site & lately better yet > site) > I bet A.J Ross can confirm this. a great joke, flies right over > non-engineering types. > Thanks for the enjoyable reminder > > Bob Sutherland / Madprof Before the Jane Christo era, WBUR-FM aired a show about stereo equipment and the music to be played on it called "Shop Talk". The hosts were an electronics engineer named Peter W. Mitchell and a psychologist named Dr. David Goldwater (he provided insights into the music of Gustave Mahler). Peter's other duties involved tape-recording concerts around Greater Boston, principally Sanders Theater in Memorial Hall at Harvard U. On occasion, the microphones he used were in reaching distance of the concertgoers, and they would take the bait, thus possibly altering the delicate balance Peter tried to attain. So according to his version of the story, he put signs on the mics reading: "Warning: 47,000 ohms!" -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From mixer893@yahoo.com Fri Oct 7 15:40:26 2005 From: mixer893@yahoo.com (Jeremy Mixer) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 12:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: NBC cable weather channel In-Reply-To: <20051007155607.8FCFC3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20051007194026.46376.qmail@web30313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I noticed recently in my cable lineup that there is a new station providing some competition with the Weather Channel. It is very similar with their national/world forecasts, however the local forecasts are much more detailed and are done by WCSH meteoroligists, as well as local weather conditions and 5 day forecasts for different Maine/NH towns on the left and bottom of the screen at all times, including commercials. It makes me wonder....if anyone knows.... Did NBC just recently launch this service? Or did WCSH just recently join up with the venture? I never thought I'd see competition for the Weather Channel.....also makes me wonder...if NBC DID just start it up, why did they launch it in early October when most of the worst part of the hurricane season is done? Jeremy From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Oct 7 16:01:51 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 16:01:51 -0400 Subject: NBC cable weather channel References: <20051007194026.46376.qmail@web30313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00c901c5cb79$f7995670$6501a8c0@pastor2> I wondered about that myself when I chanced to see the [long!] list of NBC-Universal operations a couple of days ago. The NBC cable weather channel is there. I never knew it existed. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Mixer" To: Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: NBC cable weather channel > I noticed recently in my cable lineup that there is a > new station providing some competition with the > Weather Channel. It is very similar with their > national/world forecasts, however the local forecasts > are much more detailed and are done by WCSH > meteoroligists, as well as local weather conditions > and 5 day forecasts for different Maine/NH towns on > the left and bottom of the screen at all times, > including commercials. > > It makes me wonder....if anyone knows.... > > Did NBC just recently launch this service? Or did WCSH > just recently join up with the venture? > > I never thought I'd see competition for the Weather > Channel.....also makes me wonder...if NBC DID just > start it up, why did they launch it in early October > when most of the worst part of the hurricane season is > done? > > Jeremy > From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Fri Oct 7 16:12:31 2005 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 16:12:31 -0400 Subject: NBC cable weather channel Message-ID: <001101c5cb7b$72d19180$98803418@DG07P241> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B. Currier" To: "Jeremy Mixer" Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: Re: NBC cable weather channel > Doubt that it'll evah get t' th' Cape - we still have E B Rideout on WEEI > 590 doin' daily forecahsts includin' th' marine forecahst from Eastport > Maine to Block Island RI! > Paul > Sandwich > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeremy Mixer" > To:> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:40 PM > Subject: NBC cable weather channel > > > > I noticed recently in my cable lineup that there is a > > new station providing some competition with the > > Weather Channel. It is very similar with their > > national/world forecasts, however the local forecasts > > are much more detailed and are done by WCSH > > meteoroligists, as well as local weather conditions > > and 5 day forecasts for different Maine/NH towns on > > the left and bottom of the screen at all times, > > including commercials. > > > > It makes me wonder....if anyone knows.... > > > > Did NBC just recently launch this service? Or did WCSH > > just recently join up with the venture? > > > > I never thought I'd see competition for the Weather > > Channel.....also makes me wonder...if NBC DID just > > start it up, why did they launch it in early October > > when most of the worst part of the hurricane season is > > done? > > > > Jeremy > > > From mhiggs@gmail.com Fri Oct 7 16:32:23 2005 From: mhiggs@gmail.com (Matt Higgs) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 17:32:23 -0300 Subject: NBC cable weather channel In-Reply-To: <20051007194026.46376.qmail@web30313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051007155607.8FCFC3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> <20051007194026.46376.qmail@web30313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: WeatherPlus has been on the go for quite sometime now, close to a year. WCSH and WLBZ joined the WeatherPlus bandwagon in the past few weeks. Right now, the WLBZ version is basically a simlucast of WCSH with their meteorologist doing some of the local weather casts from Bangor then tossing to someone else in Portland. Apparently ABC is looking to start up a similar channel in conjunction with Accuweather. WCSH/WLBZ WeatherPlus is also being streamed live on their websites. Not a bad service if you ask me. MH On 10/7/05, Jeremy Mixer wrote: > I noticed recently in my cable lineup that there is a > new station providing some competition with the > Weather Channel. It is very similar with their > national/world forecasts, however the local forecasts > are much more detailed and are done by WCSH > meteoroligists, as well as local weather conditions > and 5 day forecasts for different Maine/NH towns on > the left and bottom of the screen at all times, > including commercials. > > It makes me wonder....if anyone knows.... > > Did NBC just recently launch this service? Or did WCSH > just recently join up with the venture? > > I never thought I'd see competition for the Weather > Channel.....also makes me wonder...if NBC DID just > start it up, why did they launch it in early October > when most of the worst part of the hurricane season is > done? > > Jeremy > From mamros@MIT.EDU Fri Oct 7 16:38:18 2005 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 16:38:18 -0400 Subject: NBC cable weather channel In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 07 Oct 2005 12:40:26 PDT." <20051007194026.46376.qmail@web30313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200510072038.j97KcIB6022347@mass-toolpike.mit.edu> >Did NBC just recently launch this service? Or did WCSH >just recently join up with the venture? Is this NBC Weather Plus? (I just Googled "NBC cable weather" and that's one of the first things that popped up.) If so, then WCSH must be a recently-added affiliate. It started up in mid-November of last year. Hasn't appeared yet on Comcast in the Boston area. -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Oct 7 18:19:48 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:19:48 -0400 Subject: NBC cable weather channel Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051007181855.020cb2f0@mail.mac.com> At 03:40 PM 10/7/2005, Jeremy Mixer wrote: >I noticed recently in my cable lineup that there is a >new station providing some competition with the >Weather Channel. It is very similar with their >national/world forecasts, however the local forecasts >are much more detailed and are done by WCSH >meteoroligists, as well as local weather conditions >and 5 day forecasts for different Maine/NH towns on >the left and bottom of the screen at all times, >including commercials. I've been told the same service is going to be carried on WHDH-DT, but have not been given a start date. No equipment has been installed in Master Control yet, but it's coming. >It makes me wonder....if anyone knows.... > >Did NBC just recently launch this service? Or did WCSH >just recently join up with the venture? It is fairly new, as I understand it. >I never thought I'd see competition for the Weather >Channel.....also makes me wonder...if NBC DID just >start it up, why did they launch it in early October >when most of the worst part of the hurricane season is >done? > >Jeremy Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Fri Oct 7 21:25:36 2005 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 18:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: NBC cable weather channel In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051007181855.020cb2f0@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <20051008012536.28362.qmail@web52611.mail.yahoo.com> On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:19:48 Larry Weil wrote, in response to Jeremy Mixer's inquiry about NBC Weather Channel: > > I've been told the same service is going to be > carried on WHDH-DT, > but have not been given a start date. No equipment > has been > installed in Master Control yet, but it's coming. > So is it a safe guess that this is a channel that will soon be carried on the digital subcarriers of NBC affiliates around the country? Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Oct 7 21:50:56 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 21:50:56 -0400 Subject: NBC cable weather channel In-Reply-To: <20051008012536.28362.qmail@web52611.mail.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20051007181855.020cb2f0@mail.mac.com> <20051008012536.28362.qmail@web52611.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051007214906.021de568@mail.mac.com> At 09:25 PM 10/7/2005, Matthew Osborne wrote: > So is it a safe guess that this is a channel that >will soon be carried on the digital subcarriers of NBC >affiliates around the country? I won't guess at anything having to do with NBC, that way I can't be proven wrong. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From scott@fybush.com Fri Oct 7 21:56:46 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 21:56:46 -0400 Subject: NBC cable weather channel In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051007214906.021de568@mail.mac.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20051007181855.020cb2f0@mail.mac.com> <20051008012536.28362.qmail@web52611.mail.yahoo.com> <6.2.3.4.2.20051007214906.021de568@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20051007215531.03bf41d0@gwind.pair.com> At 09:50 PM 10/7/2005, Larry Weil wrote: >At 09:25 PM 10/7/2005, Matthew Osborne wrote: > >> So is it a safe guess that this is a channel that >>will soon be carried on the digital subcarriers of NBC >>affiliates around the country? > >I won't guess at anything having to do with NBC, that way I can't be >proven wrong. It's my understanding that this is rolling out on NBC stations everywhere. WCAU-DT had it in Philly when I was there a few weeks ago, and I'm just about to unpack my DTV tuner and see if I can get WNBC-DT from 30 miles away here in Suffern. WGRZ-DT has it in Buffalo. It's not on WHEC-DT, which has a "roll your own" DTV weather subchannel instead. s From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Oct 7 22:57:31 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 22:57:31 -0400 Subject: NBC cable weather channel References: <6.2.3.4.2.20051007181855.020cb2f0@mail.mac.com> <20051008012536.28362.qmail@web52611.mail.yahoo.com> <6.2.3.4.2.20051007214906.021de568@mail.mac.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20051007215531.03bf41d0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <021201c5cbb4$0710a3d0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Being one of those annoying "While we're on the subject" people, I need to ask: Doesn't the gradual conversion to DT presuppose that all cable systems will have to accommodate it? The management of our local system doesn't seem to be moving in that direction --- at least I haven't seen any indication of such. What sort of technology is involved? Is it horribly expensive for cable companies? (Remember, I'm a layman . . .). Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Larry Weil" ; Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:56 PM Subject: Re: NBC cable weather channel > At 09:50 PM 10/7/2005, Larry Weil wrote: > >At 09:25 PM 10/7/2005, Matthew Osborne wrote: > > > >> So is it a safe guess that this is a channel that > >>will soon be carried on the digital subcarriers of NBC > >>affiliates around the country? > > > >I won't guess at anything having to do with NBC, that way I can't be > >proven wrong. > > It's my understanding that this is rolling out on NBC stations everywhere. > WCAU-DT had it in Philly when I was there a few weeks ago, and I'm just > about to unpack my DTV tuner and see if I can get WNBC-DT from 30 miles > away here in Suffern. WGRZ-DT has it in Buffalo. It's not on WHEC-DT, which > has a "roll your own" DTV weather subchannel instead. > > s > > From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Oct 8 00:53:15 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 00:53:15 -0400 Subject: We're cranking out 10,000 milliwatts of power!!! In-Reply-To: <200510071329.j97DTICR007891@mass-toolpike.mit.edu> References: Your message of "Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:15:41 EDT." <008801c5cae5$0571e900$7c789c04@p133> Message-ID: <4347187B.18137.487D22@localhost> On 7 Oct 2005 at 9:29, Shawn Mamros wrote: > "At 20 million microwatts effective radiated power - this is the > flagship station of the Technology Broadcasting System..." I used to like to say, "This is WMUA in Amherst, and remember, no other station can make that claim!" -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Oct 8 00:53:16 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 00:53:16 -0400 Subject: We're cranking out 10,000 milliwatts of power!!! In-Reply-To: <20051007155607.8FCFC3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4347187C.1396.487D8A@localhost> On 7 Oct 2005 at 10:56, Laurence Glavin wrote: > On occasion, > the microphones he used were in reaching distance of the concertgoers, > and they would take the bait, thus possibly altering the delicate > balance Peter tried to attain. So according to his version of the > story, he put signs on the mics reading: "Warning: 47,000 ohms!" I remember a conversation at a meeting of the MIT Science Fiction Society during the Vietnam era which went something like this: "The army has the capacity to induct resistors." "Not if they get too much impedence." "Maybe someone should write a coulomb about it." "Any more of this and I'm going ohm." This was on a Faraday evening, as I recall. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sat Oct 8 00:53:47 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 00:53:47 -0400 Subject: NBC cable weather channel In-Reply-To: <20051008012536.28362.qmail@web52611.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20051008012536.28362.qmail@web52611.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <434750DB.5030005@cssinc.com> Matthew Osborne wrote: >On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:19:48 Larry Weil wrote, in >response to Jeremy Mixer's inquiry about NBC Weather >Channel: > > > >>I've been told the same service is going to be >>carried on WHDH-DT, >>but have not been given a start date. No equipment >>has been >>installed in Master Control yet, but it's coming. >> >> >> > So is it a safe guess that this is a channel that >will soon be carried on the digital subcarriers of NBC >affiliates around the country? > > > Didn't they do a CNN news type thing on this channel around election time? Brian From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Oct 8 16:36:12 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:36:12 -0400 Subject: NBC cable weather channel In-Reply-To: <434750DB.5030005@cssinc.com> References: <20051008012536.28362.qmail@web52611.mail.yahoo.com> <434750DB.5030005@cssinc.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051008163445.021ff948@mail.mac.com> At 12:53 AM 10/8/2005, Brian Vita wrote: >Matthew Osborne wrote: > >>On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:19:48 Larry Weil wrote, in >>response to Jeremy Mixer's inquiry about NBC Weather >>Channel: >Didn't they do a CNN news type thing on this channel around election time? I believe that was ABC that did that, it would have been on WCVB-DT. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Oct 10 17:37:53 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:37:53 -0400 Subject: Fybush: ESPN to WTWK 1070 Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510101437m3acab8bfm6a20bb771ed691df@mail.gmail.com> Scott Fybush reports in North East Radio Watch that ESPN will soon debut at WTWK 1070 (Plattsburgh NY but serving Lake Champlain area) in place of the temporary simulcast of WUSX 93.7 from Addison (classic country). The station, over the years, has been talk radio; religious, then Air America (AAR switched to WKDR 1390 recently). ESPN...just in time to carry the American and National League Championship series and World Series. From markwats@comcast.net Mon Oct 10 17:50:19 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:50:19 -0400 Subject: Fybush: ESPN to WTWK 1070 References: <1fbbbced0510101437m3acab8bfm6a20bb771ed691df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001401c5cde4$a263e360$69081f42@Mark> Bob Nelson wrote: > Scott Fybush reports in North East Radio Watch that ESPN will soon debut > at > WTWK 1070 (Plattsburgh NY but serving Lake Champlain area) in place of the > temporary simulcast of WUSX 93.7 from Addison (classic country). > ESPN...just in time to carry the American and National League Championship > series and World Series. Not the night games I'm afraid. WTWK is a daytimer. Mark Watson From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Oct 10 19:01:38 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:01:38 -0400 Subject: Fybush: ESPN to WTWK 1070 In-Reply-To: <001401c5cde4$a263e360$69081f42@Mark> References: <1fbbbced0510101437m3acab8bfm6a20bb771ed691df@mail.gmail.com> <001401c5cde4$a263e360$69081f42@Mark> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510101601y573b1be5h2a7885c3b16bc81@mail.gmail.com> Ah. Well they're all night games from now on.Oops, forgot about them being a daytimer! That was one reason they moved AAR to WVAA. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Oct 11 14:41:26 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:41:26 -0400 Subject: Tom Cheek has died (WVMT, WJOY, Blue Jays) Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510111141va381ef7v46c47075cd047857@mail.gmail.com> Longtime Toronto Blue Jays sportscaster Tom Cheek has died at 66 after battling brain cancer. He did University of Vermont and St. Michael's games for WVMT and WJOY. He called Blue Jays games from the team's inception in 1977 up until last year-- 4,306 consecutive games. I have an album of songs related to the Blue Jays which I picked up while visiting Canada; Cheek and Jerry Howarth do "play by play" as part of a rap/pop tune, "Do It Again Blue Jays" (issued in '93, the second of two years the team won the World Series) From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Oct 12 03:17:37 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 03:17:37 -0400 Subject: WTKK: Levin short stay/battle of talk hosts Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510120017n53709172m78e891343fa6df92@mail.gmail.com> It was announced the other day that WTKK would start running the Mark Levin show from WABC on Monday. Then, during that show, Levin said "it was just for a couple days". During tonight's show, Levin bid WTKK farewell but said he'd still be on WABC plus WBAP in Dallas. What? That was a short stay. Well according to the WTKK site, this week that 6-7 pm hour would have Mark Levin on Monday and Tue., Monica Crowley (also from WABC?) on Wed. and Thu., and Eagan and Braude on Friday. Furthermore it said that during the 10 pm - 1 am slot it would be Hannity on Mon and Tue. but on Wed.-Fri. it will be Michael Graham...author, one-time comedian, etc. What in the wide wide world of sports is'a goin' on here, to quote a line from Blazing Saddles. Are they trying out Graham for that 10 pm-1 am slot, and thus Hannity will air live 3-6 pm only...will Severin be back...? Ever? Meanwhile WTKK ran a promo for a kind of "battle of the talk show hosts" event. Similar to what KIRO in Seattle did--a broadcast before a live audience with their various talk hosts discussing the issues of the day. Of course with WTKK running some syndie hosts, that means some of the syndie hosts would be flying in for this event. "Stay tuned for more details"... but it named Barnicle, O'Reilly, Ingraham, and Hannity and I think Eagan and Braude, too. One name conspicuously absent. Well, maybe they're still negotiating with the Sage of Sag Harbor, or maybe talks have broken down and he's being sat down till the end of his contract? Who knows. From fox893@yahoo.com Wed Oct 12 19:15:03 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WNSX and Northern Northern Maine Message-ID: <20051012231503.23405.qmail@web54607.mail.yahoo.com> My wife and I had a chance to head to Aroostook County last night and had a chance to check out the Citadel cluster up there. They have definately made a few changes. Their country station sounds about the same, but the Hot AC is now locally produced(except for Bob and Sheri in the morning) and the oldies station is now doing rock(sort of mainstream, but with more classic leaning). Also, had a chance to listen to WNSX as we cruised through Calais. Sounds good. Very simplistic and uncluttered. We did not listen for very long, tho. The signal was fairly staticy on our radio at that distance. Magic 104 North Conway, NH V: (603)356-8870 F: (603)356-8875 ***Commercial Production Demo at: http://cooperfox.voice123.com __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From billo@shoreham.net Wed Oct 12 19:19:28 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: WTKK: Levin short stay/battle of talk hosts In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0510120017n53709172m78e891343fa6df92@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced0510120017n53709172m78e891343fa6df92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <434D9A00.9000300@shoreham.net> Bob Nelson wrote: >What in the wide wide world of sports is'a goin' on here, to quote a line >from Blazing Saddles. > That's second to "Can't you see she's pooped?!" One thing for sure is that all the bird-talk making its way on the signal may be a harbinger for the Hub of the Universe and, arguably, the birthplace of talkradio (full-contact sports-type talk)? Frankly, I would be surprised if Entercom didn't renew Imus. Likely his last go-round and that is always good for stop n' gawks even among periferal talk listeners. I've been thinking it's foreplay to contract talks in terms of money. It's on thing that just about every AMer with "talk" in its name are glorified repeaters but when a prolific FM in a heritage talk market starts to play shell-games with someone else's network inventory then it could be dog-track time. Bill O'Neill From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Oct 13 16:55:53 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:55:53 -0500 Subject: WTKK: Levin short stay/battle of talk hosts Message-ID: <20051013205554.0AC79CA071@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bill O'Neill" >To: "Bob Nelson" >Subject: Re: WTKK: Levin short stay/battle of talk hosts >Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:19:28 -0400 > > > One thing for sure is that all the bird-talk making its way on the > signal may be a harbinger for the Hub of the Universe and, > arguably, the birthplace of talkradio (full-contact sports-type > talk)? Frankly, I would be surprised if Entercom didn't renew > Imus. Likely his last go-round and that is always good for stop n' > gawks even among periferal talk listeners. I've been thinking it's > foreplay to contract talks in terms of money. It's on thing that > just about every AMer with "talk" in its name are glorified > repeaters but when a prolific FM in a heritage talk market starts > to play shell-games with someone else's network inventory then it > could be dog-track time. > > Bill O'Neill Or perhaps Kenny G time? I.e. a reversion to smooth jazz (whatever that is)? -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billings@Suscom-Maine.net Sat Oct 15 11:46:46 2005 From: billings@Suscom-Maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:46:46 -0400 Subject: Bob Bitner is front page news Message-ID: <000c01c5d19f$a7914d50$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> http://www.timesrecord.com/WEBSITE/MAIN.nsf/0/269B6E639535CC060525709A005A56D5?Opendocument The Times Record, the local papert for the Bath/Brunswick area, featured Bob Bitner on their front page today. The link above will take you to a long profile of Bob and his unique operation at WJTO. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Oct 14 22:12:51 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:12:51 -0400 Subject: Bob Bitner is front page news Message-ID: <001301c5d12e$0bb1f540$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> http://www.timesrecord.com/WEBSITE/MAIN.nsf/0/269B6E639535CC060525709A005A56D5?Opendocument The Times Record, the local papert for the Bath/Brunswick area, featured Bob Bitner on their front page today. The link above will take you to a long profile of Bob and his unique operation at WJTO. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 23:21:24 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: CINW 940 Montreal Message-ID: <20051016032124.32048.qmail@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I haven't tuned to 940 CINW Montreal Canada. Last time I did I thought they were all news. Now they are plugging themselves as the new 940, All your news and all your views. So they've gone news/talk. Is this news or am I a laggard. John B Derry NH From wollman@csail.mit.edu Sun Oct 16 00:22:45 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:22:45 -0400 Subject: CINW 940 Montreal In-Reply-To: <20051016032124.32048.qmail@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051016032124.32048.qmail@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <17233.54677.690746.465600@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Now they are plugging themselves as the new 940, All your news and all > your views. So they've gone news/talk. Is this news or am I a laggard. It was reported in NERW a few weeks ago. -GAWollman From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Oct 16 13:17:14 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:17:14 -0500 Subject: Bob Bitner is front page news Message-ID: <20051016171714.C844AC614A@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daniel Billings" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Bob Bitner is front page news >Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:46:46 -0400 > > http://www.timesrecord.com/WEBSITE/MAIN.nsf/0/269B6E639535CC060525709A005A56D5?Opendocument > > The Times Record, the local papert for the Bath/Brunswick area, featured Bob > Bitner on their front page today. The link above will take you to a long > profile of Bob and his unique operation at WJTO. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine It's amazing how newspapers get so many things wrong when they cover radio. This article places WJIB-AM in Rowley, Mass ; states that WJTO operates with 5,000 watts ; and operates on 730 MEGAhertz. Gee, it makes you wonder how many things they screw up in their other sections, like supinely agreeing with the administration that if we didn't go into Iraq, mushroom clouds would appear over American cities. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Oct 16 15:59:33 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:59:33 -0500 Subject: Boston Globe Article On Pirate Radio Message-ID: <20051016195933.66F95E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Today's (10/16) Boston Sunday Globe City Section contained an article on pirate radio inside the City limits. Read all about it (while the link lasts) at: http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/10/16/pirate_radio/ (A registration request MAY pop up; no fee required unlike parent NY Times) -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From hybucket@yahoo.com Sun Oct 16 14:40:37 2005 From: hybucket@yahoo.com (Mark Adams) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Bob Bittner's operation(s) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20051016184037.54726.qmail@web53013.mail.yahoo.com> I wasn't aware that WJIB was a "Rowley, MA" station - It's license, I believe, is Cambridge-Boston, where, as WTAO, it was a moderately successful top-40 station in the late 50's, then became the AM station for WXHR, a clasical-music FM-er, but playing pop music with the legendary Dick Brown, who, I seem to remember, was fired for playing traffic reports by Kevin O'Keefe that he taped off the old WHDH radio. But I digress - Bittner has been around a long time, and is doing the unheard-of in a market the size of Boston - playing "good music" with no commercial interruptions, on a station with a half-decent signal, even at night. Hats off to him!! __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Oct 16 22:00:35 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:00:35 -0400 Subject: via BRW: Pirate radio, and Barbara Anderson about talk radio Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510161900l591752c4xffc3c9fceeb678b@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to Boston Radio Watch for these links. 1) The Funny Cookie Company may or may not catch them, but there are lots of pirates out there, ahoy, matey. From today's Sunday Globe. The operators say they're meeting a need. Legit broadcasters are not pleased and supposedly have a website listing 22 of them (what's the URL, Globe?): http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/10/16/pirate_radio?mode=PF 2) And Barbara Anderson of CLT&G celebrates the 25th anniversary of Prop 2 1/2 and laments the loss of issue-oriented/activist talk radio (where have you gone Jerry Williams, a city turns its lonely eyes to you) http://www.lowellsun.com/editorials/ci_3121865 From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Oct 16 22:02:10 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:02:10 -0400 Subject: CINW 940 Montreal In-Reply-To: <17233.54677.690746.465600@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <20051016032124.32048.qmail@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <17233.54677.690746.465600@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510161902jc243b93t8ac1baede36a06@mail.gmail.com> And I believe they're running Coast-to-Coast/George Noory during the overnights. On 10/16/05, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > Now they are plugging themselves as the new 940, All your news and all > > your views. So they've gone news/talk. Is this news or am I a laggard. > > It was reported in NERW a few weeks ago. > > -GAWollman > > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Oct 16 22:12:58 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:12:58 -0400 Subject: Bob Bittner's operation(s) In-Reply-To: <20051016184037.54726.qmail@web53013.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20051016184037.54726.qmail@web53013.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510161912m2d16b138qe7c1a014f1e8376a@mail.gmail.com> The mailing address for WJIB is in Rowley...maybe that's where that came from. it is most definitely licensed to Cambridge. WTAO, then WCAS, WLVG, WWEA... On 10/16/05, Mark Adams wrote: > I wasn't aware that WJIB was a "Rowley, MA" station - > It's license, I believe, is Cambridge-Boston From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Oct 16 22:21:02 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:21:02 -0400 Subject: via BRW: Pirate radio, and Barbara Anderson about talk radio In-Reply-To: <435308db.5d808073.4550.ffff8da7SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced0510161900l591752c4xffc3c9fceeb678b@mail.gmail.com> <435308db.5d808073.4550.ffff8da7SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510161921i3da5323dh455ce0f22776cdec@mail.gmail.com> You're welcome. I tend to agree with her about Savage. Not sure when she wrote this editorial (it appeared in today's Lowell Sun according to the website) but when she said Jay Severin suddenly vanished last week--actually it was one full month ago. His last show for WTKK aired Thu. Sept. 15th. >>Thanks for the Barbara Anderson link! From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sun Oct 16 23:09:06 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:09:06 -0400 Subject: Bob Bitner is front page news Message-ID: <200510162309.AA3806331060@mail.ttlc.net> "Laurence Glavin" >Gee, it makes you wonder how many things they screw up in their >other sections, like supinely agreeing with the administration >that if we didn't go into Iraq, mushroom clouds would >appear over American cities. There are no mushroom clouds over American cities, thus it follows that going into Iraq was the correct thing to do. Attention! Veri-Scan Anti-Politics Parser detected: WARNING - ABOVE STATEMENT IS TONGUE-IN-CHEEK REPLY USING FALSE LOGIC. HUMOUROUS INTENET ONLY - NOT POLITICAL STATEMENT. Thank you. From joe@attorneyross.com Mon Oct 17 01:13:42 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:13:42 -0400 Subject: Bob Bittner's operation(s) In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0510161912m2d16b138qe7c1a014f1e8376a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20051016184037.54726.qmail@web53013.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4352FAC6.10091.9049DC@localhost> On 16 Oct 2005 at 22:12, Bob Nelson wrote: > The mailing address for WJIB is in Rowley...maybe that's where that > came from. it is most definitely licensed to Cambridge. WTAO, then > WCAS, WLVG, WWEA... And WXHR. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Oct 17 01:58:29 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:58:29 -0400 Subject: site listing pirate stations Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510162258m1b6998f1y924900d7a2fd6b79@mail.gmail.com> (Probably the one alluded to in the Globe article...) site listing some of these unauth broadcasters: http://members.aol.com/baconti/bostonLP.htm One such station (1690), showing off their studios in Lynn, etc. http://www.radiocreoleinter.com/ In some ways I admire those who put stations like this on to serve a community but they are breaking the law (though maybe the FCC will shut them down IF they get a complaint). Is it possible their presence on the dial can break down the overall reception quality of legit stations? Certainly if they're right next to one. How would you feel if you ran WUNR and someone started a station nearby at 1610? There are legit AM stations who could sell or give time away to these organizations... From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Oct 17 19:06:03 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:06:03 -0500 Subject: Follow-up To Fybush.com Reference To Waterlogged FM's Message-ID: <20051017230603.639EFC612E@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> If you've read this week's NERW, you know that FM stations transmitting from the Route 128 tower on Chestnut Street, Newton suffered technical problems last weekend. The Boston board of radio-info.com specified non-operational stereo broadcasts on WBMS 98.5 and WCRB 102.5. As of 7:00 pm Monday, only WCRB is still broadcasting in monaural sound (its programming in one-dimensional anyway). I wonder if this means they don't have a backup transmitter to use. This means its most popular program, last Saturday's Boston Symphony Orchestra broadcast was not in stereo. Yikes...they have five days to fix the problem before it happens again! -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Oct 17 19:41:46 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:41:46 -0400 Subject: Follow-up To Fybush.com Reference To Waterlogged FM's References: <20051017230603.639EFC612E@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <005f01c5d374$59affce0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> According to the Radio-Info board, what failed was not WCRB's transmitter but the master antenna on the FM 128 tower. The antenna is not the property of any of the stations that use it, but of American Tower Systems, which owns the tower. The master antenna is used by all of the FMs that transmit from the tower except for WBUR, which is directional and therefore must have a separate antenna. According to NERW, WBUR's brand-new antenna is at the very top of the tower. I think there is an auxiliary antenna on the tower, which WCRB--at least--is using, but I gather the antenna is not suited to delivering full-power signals. Because the coverage of FM-stereo signals is much less than that of mono signals, it may not be worthwhile for the stations to transmit in stereo from the auxiliary antenna. Some of the stations apparently have auxiliary facilities elsewhere. I think I read that WBMX is operating from the Pru, where it is presumably able to run at or near full power. I gather that WCRB has no such facilities, so they must wait for the master antenna to be replaced, which is not something that can necessarily be done all that quickly. If a new antenna is required, it will take a while; it's not a stock item; it has to be built. Also, today was the first day of reasonable weather since the storm knocked out the master antenna. Moreover, even today, it was reasonably windy. Work on a tall tower is done at the pleasure of the weather. Are you volunteering to climb the 1200' tower in 45-mph winds? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: Follow-up To Fybush.com Reference To Waterlogged FM's > If you've read this week's NERW, you know that FM stations transmitting > from the Route 128 tower on Chestnut Street, Newton suffered technical problems > last weekend. The Boston board of radio-info.com specified non-operational > stereo broadcasts on WBMS 98.5 and WCRB 102.5. As of 7:00 pm Monday, > only WCRB is still broadcasting in monaural sound (its programming in > one-dimensional anyway). I wonder if this means they don't have a backup > transmitter to use. This means its most popular program, last Saturday's > Boston Symphony Orchestra broadcast was not in stereo. Yikes...they have > five days to fix the problem before it happens again! > > -- > _______________________________________________ > > Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages > > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 > > From scott@fybush.com Mon Oct 17 20:36:50 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:36:50 -0400 Subject: Follow-up To Fybush.com Reference To Waterlogged FM's In-Reply-To: <005f01c5d374$59affce0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20051017230603.639EFC612E@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20051017203441.03daee00@gwind.pair.com> WODS also has a separate antenna and is presumably operating at full power. The master antenna is actually the highest antenna in current use on the tower, being located on the mast portion above the top of the tower proper. WBUR's antenna is at the top of the tower itself, below the mast, and WODS' main and backup antennas are below that. The issue is not the antenna itself, apparently, but the feedline that runs up the tower. Any shutdowns or switching to auxiliary antennas being done by WODS and WBUR would be to allow climbers to work on the portions of the tower near their antennas. At 07:41 PM 10/17/2005 -0400, Dan Strassberg wrote: >According to the Radio-Info board, what failed was not WCRB's transmitter >but the master antenna on the FM 128 tower. The antenna is not the property >of any of the stations that use it, but of American Tower Systems, which >owns the tower. The master antenna is used by all of the FMs that transmit >from the tower except for WBUR, which is directional and therefore must have >a separate antenna. According to NERW, WBUR's brand-new antenna is at the >very top of the tower. I think there is an auxiliary antenna on the tower, >which WCRB--at least--is using, but I gather the antenna is not suited to >delivering full-power signals. Because the coverage of FM-stereo signals is >much less than that of mono signals, it may not be worthwhile for the >stations to transmit in stereo from the auxiliary antenna. Some of the >stations apparently have auxiliary facilities elsewhere. I think I read that >WBMX is operating from the Pru, where it is presumably able to run at or >near full power. I gather that WCRB has no such facilities, so they must >wait for the master antenna to be replaced, which is not something that can >necessarily be done all that quickly. If a new antenna is required, it will >take a while; it's not a stock item; it has to be built. Also, today was the >first day of reasonable weather since the storm knocked out the master >antenna. Moreover, even today, it was reasonably windy. Work on a tall tower >is done at the pleasure of the weather. Are you volunteering to climb the >1200' tower in 45-mph winds? > >-- >Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net >eFax 707-215-6367 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Laurence Glavin" >To: >Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 7:06 PM >Subject: Follow-up To Fybush.com Reference To Waterlogged FM's > > > > If you've read this week's NERW, you know that FM stations transmitting > > from the Route 128 tower on Chestnut Street, Newton suffered technical >problems > > last weekend. The Boston board of radio-info.com specified >non-operational > > stereo broadcasts on WBMS 98.5 and WCRB 102.5. As of 7:00 pm Monday, > > only WCRB is still broadcasting in monaural sound (its programming in > > one-dimensional anyway). I wonder if this means they don't have a backup > > transmitter to use. This means its most popular program, last Saturday's > > Boston Symphony Orchestra broadcast was not in stereo. Yikes...they have > > five days to fix the problem before it happens again! > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow >Pages > > > > >http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp >?SRC=lycos10 > > > > From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Oct 17 19:55:32 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is back on the air Message-ID: <20051017235532.74483.qmail@web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is back on the air. It has been since about 5pm, at least that I have noticed // WSNH 900 AM I'm guessing they are running about 25-100 watts based on how 1590 faded out going towards Londonderry vs 900. John B Derry NH From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Oct 17 21:37:48 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is back on the air In-Reply-To: <001001c5d382$df348ee0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <20051018013748.4841.qmail@web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Dan Strassberg wrote: > Are they transmitting from the WSNH site? 100W or maybe a little more is > possible during the day but I don't know about nights. I based my estimated of 25-100 watts based on how they came in on my ride home to Derry about 7:30pm. They most likely are transmitting from the WSNH 900 site. I'll bring my Grundig Satelite radio by the site tomorrow afternoon, turn the gain back all the way, and be able to determine if it is coming from the AM900 location. John B Derry NH From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Oct 17 21:25:39 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:25:39 -0400 Subject: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is back on the air References: <20051017235532.74483.qmail@web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001001c5d382$df348ee0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Are they transmitting from the WSNH site? 100W or maybe a little more is possible during the day but I don't know about nights. For days, they really need a site north of WSNH to be allowed enough power to cover Nashua. To some extent, of course, anything goes with STA operations, and STAs can last a long time. WSRO 1470 ran on STA for several years, but I think the day power was around 300W, which was enough to be licensed, provided that the station delivered 5 mV/m day to substantially all of Marlborough. My impression is that WSMN can't get enough power (250W) from the WSNH site to be licensed or to deliver 5 mV/m over enough of Nashua to be licensed. The problem is that more power without a directional antenna will create prohibited overlap with WUNR and probably with WARV. A site further north might solve these problems without the use of a directional antenna. But we're talking here about enough power to get a license--never mind enough power to produce a signal that anyone besides radio geeks will listen to. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 7:55 PM Subject: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is back on the air > WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is back on the air. It has been since about 5pm, at > least that I have noticed // WSNH 900 AM > I'm guessing they are running about 25-100 watts based on how 1590 faded > out going towards Londonderry vs 900. > > John B > Derry NH From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Oct 18 01:39:56 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:39:56 -0400 Subject: Follow-up To Fybush.com Reference To Waterlogged FM's In-Reply-To: <20051017230603.639EFC612E@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4354526C.25534.D007EE@localhost> On 17 Oct 2005 at 18:06, Laurence Glavin wrote: > If you've read this week's NERW, you know that FM stations > transmitting from the Route 128 tower on Chestnut Street, Newton > suffered technical problems last weekend. The Boston board of > radio-info.com specified non-operational stereo broadcasts on WBMS > 98.5 and WCRB 102.5. As of 7:00 pm Monday, only WCRB is still > broadcasting in monaural sound (its programming in one-dimensional > anyway). I wonder if this means they don't have a backup transmitter > to use. This means its most popular program, last Saturday's Boston > Symphony Orchestra broadcast was not in stereo. Yikes...they have > five days to fix the problem before it happens again! Incidentally, I've found a couple of alternatives to WCRB, at least when I'm near a computer: One is Bayern 4 Klassik, an FM station in Bavaria. The announcements are in German, but the music is the same. The other is BBC Radio 3. Both are online. Right now, though, I'm listening to WCRB on the AM-FM tube set that I was asking how to fix about a month ago. I finally got it working tonight, after I got a replacement for a resistor that was bad. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From radiotony@comcast.net Tue Oct 18 01:48:22 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:48:22 -0400 Subject: Comrex Matrix unit ... Message-ID: <200510180724.j9I7OIWo084533@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Hi all, Does anyone know where I can get a used Comrex Matrix unit? I can't afford to spend the $7k for a new one but I would like to get my hands on one, possibly used. Is there a closeout site for used radio gear that anyone can refer me to? Best, Anthony Schinella Program Director/News/A&E WKXL 1450 AM/Concord, NH http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Tue Oct 18 07:52:31 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:52:31 -0400 Subject: Follow-up To Fybush.com Reference To Waterlogged FM's References: <4354526C.25534.D007EE@localhost> Message-ID: <00bd01c5d3da$6c40e250$6501a8c0@pastor2> "Incidentally, I've found a couple of alternatives to WCRB, at least when I'm near a computer: One is Bayern 4 Klassik, an FM station in Bavaria. The announcements are in German, but the music is the same. The other is BBC Radio 3. Both are online." An addition, FWIW: CBC Radio Two from Canada. Highly recommended. By the way, I wish WCRB were online too. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Laurence Glavin" ; Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Follow-up To Fybush.com Reference To Waterlogged FM's > On 17 Oct 2005 at 18:06, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > > If you've read this week's NERW, you know that FM stations > > transmitting from the Route 128 tower on Chestnut Street, Newton > > suffered technical problems last weekend. The Boston board of > > radio-info.com specified non-operational stereo broadcasts on WBMS > > 98.5 and WCRB 102.5. As of 7:00 pm Monday, only WCRB is still > > broadcasting in monaural sound (its programming in one-dimensional > > anyway). I wonder if this means they don't have a backup transmitter > > to use. This means its most popular program, last Saturday's Boston > > Symphony Orchestra broadcast was not in stereo. Yikes...they have > > five days to fix the problem before it happens again! > > Incidentally, I've found a couple of alternatives to WCRB, at least when I'm near a computer: > One is Bayern 4 Klassik, an FM station in Bavaria. The announcements are in German, but > the music is the same. The other is BBC Radio 3. Both are online. > > Right now, though, I'm listening to WCRB on the AM-FM tube set that I was asking how to > fix about a month ago. I finally got it working tonight, after I got a replacement for a resistor > that was bad. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From revdoug1@verizon.net Tue Oct 18 09:07:42 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:07:42 -0400 Subject: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is back on the air References: <20051017235532.74483.qmail@web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00fa01c5d3e4$ece43470$6501a8c0@pastor2> What's the format? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 7:55 PM Subject: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is back on the air > WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is back on the air. It has been since about 5pm, at > least that I have noticed // WSNH 900 AM > I'm guessing they are running about 25-100 watts based on how 1590 faded > out going towards Londonderry vs 900. > > John B > Derry NH > From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Oct 18 09:50:50 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is back on the air In-Reply-To: <00fa01c5d3e4$ece43470$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <20051018135050.9872.qmail@web30714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Doug Drown wrote: > What's the format? > Sorry, // is DX'ers shorthand for running parallel programing (simulcasting) ESPN 900 (WSNH Nashua). John From revdoug1@verizon.net Tue Oct 18 11:18:58 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:18:58 -0400 Subject: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is back on the air References: <20051018135050.9872.qmail@web30714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <012201c5d3f7$43c194b0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Thanks, John. I didn't know the shorthand. I'm assuming that the simulcasting is temporary ---? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" To: "Doug Drown" ; Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: Re: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is back on the air > --- Doug Drown wrote: > > > What's the format? > > > > > Sorry, // is DX'ers shorthand for running parallel programing > (simulcasting) ESPN 900 (WSNH Nashua). > > John > > From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue Oct 18 11:10:34 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:10:34 -0400 Subject: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is back on the air In-Reply-To: <00fa01c5d3e4$ece43470$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <000201c5d3f6$16f508a0$6800a8c0@Andrastea> >What's the format? >Doug All white noise...all the time... Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 (800)231-8849 Fax: (800)231-8849 From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Oct 18 12:15:54 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is back on the air In-Reply-To: <012201c5d3f7$43c194b0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <20051018161554.27155.qmail@web30709.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > I'm assuming that the simulcasting is temporary ---? >From what I understand the plan for simulcasting was for about 2 to 6 weeks before a return to (what may be wishful thinking) full service format. John B Derry NH From Rogerkola@aol.com Tue Oct 18 14:59:44 2005 From: Rogerkola@aol.com (Rogerkola) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:59:44 -0400 Subject: Follow-up To Fybush.com Reference To Waterlogged FM's References: <4354526C.25534.D007EE@localhost> <00bd01c5d3da$6c40e250$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <005b01c5d416$1b0e2cd0$6823a8c0@Sales2> I just received a phone call at the station (WESX 1230) from one of our Boxford listeners asking why she could only hear WCRB in the evenings this week, and when she woke up in the morning there was only static on 102.5 from her BOSE radio. Thanks to you guys I sounded semi intelligent, explained the water damage to the antenna, but I was at a loss as to why she couldn't hear it in the morning. It might have something to do with their temporary antenna or location? Roger WESX 1230 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Laurence Glavin" ; Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:52 AM Subject: Re: Follow-up To Fybush.com Reference To Waterlogged FM's > "Incidentally, I've found a couple of alternatives to WCRB, at least when > I'm near a computer: > One is Bayern 4 Klassik, an FM station in Bavaria. The announcements are > in > German, but > the music is the same. The other is BBC Radio 3. Both are online." > > An addition, FWIW: CBC Radio Two from Canada. Highly recommended. > > By the way, I wish WCRB were online too. > > Doug > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: "Laurence Glavin" ; > > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:39 AM > Subject: Re: Follow-up To Fybush.com Reference To Waterlogged FM's > > >> On 17 Oct 2005 at 18:06, Laurence Glavin wrote: >> >> > If you've read this week's NERW, you know that FM stations >> > transmitting from the Route 128 tower on Chestnut Street, Newton >> > suffered technical problems last weekend. The Boston board of >> > radio-info.com specified non-operational stereo broadcasts on WBMS >> > 98.5 and WCRB 102.5. As of 7:00 pm Monday, only WCRB is still >> > broadcasting in monaural sound (its programming in one-dimensional >> > anyway). I wonder if this means they don't have a backup transmitter >> > to use. This means its most popular program, last Saturday's Boston >> > Symphony Orchestra broadcast was not in stereo. Yikes...they have >> > five days to fix the problem before it happens again! >> >> Incidentally, I've found a couple of alternatives to WCRB, at least when > I'm near a computer: >> One is Bayern 4 Klassik, an FM station in Bavaria. The announcements are > in German, but >> the music is the same. The other is BBC Radio 3. Both are online. >> >> Right now, though, I'm listening to WCRB on the AM-FM tube set that I was > asking how to >> fix about a month ago. I finally got it working tonight, after I got a > replacement for a resistor >> that was bad. >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >> 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 >> Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> >> > > From scott@fybush.com Tue Oct 18 15:08:12 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:08:12 -0400 Subject: Follow-up To Fybush.com Reference To Waterlogged FM's In-Reply-To: <005b01c5d416$1b0e2cd0$6823a8c0@Sales2> References: <4354526C.25534.D007EE@localhost> <00bd01c5d3da$6c40e250$6501a8c0@pastor2> <005b01c5d416$1b0e2cd0$6823a8c0@Sales2> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20051018150727.03c6c548@gwind.pair.com> At 02:59 PM 10/18/2005, Rogerkola wrote: >I just received a phone call at the station (WESX 1230) from one of our >Boxford listeners asking why she could only hear WCRB in the evenings this >week, and when she woke up in the morning there was only static on 102.5 >from her BOSE radio. Thanks to you guys I sounded semi intelligent, >explained the water damage to the antenna, but I was at a loss as to why >she couldn't hear it in the morning. > >It might have something to do with their temporary antenna or location? > >Roger >WESX 1230 Indeed it might - it may be that they're able to use a more favorable temporary antenna at night when nobody's working on the tower? Just a guess... s From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Oct 18 17:25:01 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:25:01 -0500 Subject: First Sign Of Trouble At WTKK? Message-ID: <20051018212501.3927886B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> The Boston Arbs are up for the Summer book, and WTKK shows a major decline in the 12+ number (I won't quote it...you can look it up). Severin was out for a couple of weeks anyway for that rating period, although his permanent "hiatus" probably won't be reflected fully until the next book. (BTW...in other news, WILD-AM applied for a license to cover for its move from one side of Wellington Circle Medford to the other.) -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From rdavisson@neo.rr.com Tue Oct 18 17:55:39 2005 From: rdavisson@neo.rr.com (Tim) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:55:39 -0400 Subject: First Sign Of Trouble At WTKK? References: <20051018212501.3927886B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <002201c5d42e$ae92fd60$5aca5d18@tim98b01b5ec4c> > The Boston Arbs are up for the Summer book, and WTKK shows a major decline > in the 12+ number (I won't quote it...you can look it up).> Is WTKK's talk programming heavily partisan political (I don't live in New England...I have no idea)? If so, that could be the problem. I read a piece of talk radio audience research a couple months ago that said they believe the public is tiring of political talk shows...that some talkers national audiences are down over 50% in the past year. Not my opinion personally (I could care less either way)...just what I read. From nostaticatall@comcast.net Wed Oct 19 00:03:10 2005 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:03:10 -0400 Subject: First Sign Of Trouble At WTKK? In-Reply-To: <002201c5d42e$ae92fd60$5aca5d18@tim98b01b5ec4c> References: <20051018212501.3927886B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> <002201c5d42e$ae92fd60$5aca5d18@tim98b01b5ec4c> Message-ID: <8757b48b2dcdb3aab14a7de5ebd2cee1@comcast.net> WTKK's local programming tends to be more moderate (Barnicle, Eagan & Braude) but that only accounts for three hours during middays. Imus tends to be moderate to conservative in the morning, but after 1pm it's all right wing blather all the time (O'Reilly, Hannity, Ingraham, etc.) Conservative talkers have taken a bit of a ratings hit and most observers are chalking it up to post election fatigue. That may be part of the problem. However, the fact that most conservative hosts are steadfastly behind Bush and his policies may not be ringing true with the general public like it once did. With several major polls stating that Bush's approval rating is only around 39%, talk stations may be losing some moderate listeners who aren't buying the message coming from the right wing talking heads. Meanwhile in a number of markets, new liberal talk stations are slowly increasing their ratings or at least are holding steady. Their numbers still dwarf the ratings of the big conserva-talkers (who tend to be on much better signals) but it will be interesting to see how things shake out once the mid-term election season starts heating up next year. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Oct 18, 2005, at 5:55 PM, Tim wrote: >> The Boston Arbs are up for the Summer book, and WTKK shows a major >> decline in the 12+ number (I won't quote it...you can look it up).> > > Is WTKK's talk programming heavily partisan political (I don't live in > New England...I have no idea)? If so, that could be the problem. I > read a piece of talk radio audience research a couple months ago that > said they believe the public is tiring of political talk shows...that > some talkers national audiences are down over 50% in the past year. > Not my opinion personally (I could care less either way)...just what I > read. > From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Oct 19 00:55:04 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:55:04 -0400 Subject: Follow-up To Fybush.com Reference To Waterlogged FM's In-Reply-To: <005b01c5d416$1b0e2cd0$6823a8c0@Sales2> Message-ID: <43559968.23743.96DFE7@localhost> On 18 Oct 2005 at 14:59, Rogerkola wrote: > I just received a phone call at the station (WESX 1230) from one of > our Boxford listeners asking why she could only hear WCRB in the > evenings this week, and when she woke up in the morning there was only > static on 102.5 from her BOSE radio. Thanks to you guys I sounded > semi intelligent, explained the water damage to the antenna, but I was > at a loss as to why she couldn't hear it in the morning. I did notice that I couldn't get WCRB in my office in the early afternoon, so I turned to BBC Radio 3 on my computer for awhile. Later, when Radio 3 began talking a lot, I tried WCRB again on the radio, and it was back. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Oct 19 03:21:05 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:21:05 -0400 Subject: First Sign Of Trouble At WTKK? In-Reply-To: <8757b48b2dcdb3aab14a7de5ebd2cee1@comcast.net> References: <20051018212501.3927886B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> <002201c5d42e$ae92fd60$5aca5d18@tim98b01b5ec4c> <8757b48b2dcdb3aab14a7de5ebd2cee1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510190021v6778457frb3e36c1fcd06315f@mail.gmail.com> And just remember folks, all right wing radio is "blather". There is no left wing blather. Except for Dan Rather blather. :)--Bob From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Oct 19 16:52:18 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:52:18 -0500 Subject: WCRB Installs Temporary Antenna; Back to Stereo Message-ID: <20051019205218.AFF6986B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> I sent an e-mail to WCRB about their weakend signal and monaural sound; I expected a wry retort from former BRIGger Rob Landry, but someone identified only as Roberta replied and said that as of today, a new temporary antenna is now in use, allowing them to go to stereo transmission at something close to their normal power. Reading between the lines, I infer that they went monaural so as not to lose coverage area. I trust their SCA's for background music were still running. She said that representatives from American Tower were on the scene to plan a permanent replacement. More stormy weather is predicted for the coming weekend, so it probably won't happen until after then. This morning WCRB was still on monaural mode only, but now (as of 5:00 pm) it's in stereo, although the Trio Sonata by one of Bach's offspring (C.P.E.) they were playing when I auditioned the frequency didn't benefit from stereo sound all that much. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From stephanie@gordsven.com Wed Oct 19 17:40:36 2005 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WCRB Installs Temporary Antenna; Back to Stereo In-Reply-To: <20051019205218.AFF6986B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20051019205218.AFF6986B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <12892.12.37.144.130.1129758036.squirrel@12.37.144.130> On Wed, October 19, 2005 4:52 pm, Laurence Glavin said: > I sent an e-mail to WCRB about their weakend signal and monaural sound; > I expected a wry retort from former BRIGger Rob Landry, Why is Rob Landry a "Former BRIGer"? -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Oct 19 17:51:14 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:51:14 -0500 Subject: WCRB Installs Temporary Antenna; Back to Stereo Message-ID: <20051019215114.EC0A1C612E@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Stephanie Weil" >To: "Laurence Glavin" >Subject: Re: WCRB Installs Temporary Antenna; Back to Stereo >Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:40:36 -0400 (EDT) > > > On Wed, October 19, 2005 4:52 pm, Laurence Glavin said: > > I sent an e-mail to WCRB about their weakend signal and monaural sound; > > I expected a wry retort from former BRIGger Rob Landry, > > Why is Rob Landry a "Former BRIGer"? > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City, U.S.A. Rob Landry is the Chief Engineer for WCRB, possibly also its other outlets too, on the Cape and in RI. For a period of time, he posted here at the Boston Radio Interest Group...BRIG. He is VERY liberal, and he unsubscribed shortly after 9/11 because of the politics of some posters, not necessarily because of any positions regarding radio station operations. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From markwats@comcast.net Wed Oct 19 22:02:13 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:02:13 -0400 Subject: WAVM Maynard May Fall Silent Message-ID: <003001c5d51a$4c6a0650$69081f42@Mark> WAVM (91.7 Maynard) the Maynard High School radio station may be forced off the air as the FCC has granted a tentative preference to Living Proof Inc. for a new station on 91.7 in Lunenburg (as reported in Scott Fybush's NERW on 10/10). WAVM and WUMB in Boston had teamed up with a proposal to share time on 91.7. Here is a link to an article in the 10/19 Metro West daily News about WAVM's fight to stay alive: http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=112103 Mark Watson From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Wed Oct 19 23:32:43 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:32:43 -0400 Subject: Whither Chris Thomas? Message-ID: <200510192332.AA144507148@mail.ttlc.net> Anybody know where meteorologist Chris Thomas (late of WMUR-TV Channel 9) has gone? From n1qgs@yahoo.com Wed Oct 19 23:55:51 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Whither Chris Thomas? In-Reply-To: <200510192332.AA144507148@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <20051020035552.32816.qmail@web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Anybody know where meteorologist Chris Thomas > (late of WMUR-TV Channel 9) has gone? > >From the WMUR web site. Thomas To Work For Weather Technology Company MANCHESTER, N.H. -- After nine years on the air, WMUR's morning meteorologist, Chris Thomas, has accepted a new job. Thomas will be going to work for WSI, a company that specializes in weather forecasting and graphics technology for television. .... Thomas' official last day at WMUR will be Saturday, Oct. 1. However, he will still be seen occasionally on WMUR filling in for others on vacation. .... WSI, a Massachusetts-based company, is part of the largest private weather company in the world and provides the weather technology to WMUR. John B Derry NH From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Oct 20 12:12:02 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:12:02 -0400 Subject: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510200912t47380cfbw88d2f93d1c487ced@mail.gmail.com> Boston Radio Interest and radio-info both report that WILD has moved their classic soul/AC soul to 97.7, "WILD-FM", at least for the daytime. Rap/hip-hop/younger demo music will still air after 6 pm there. Meanwhile 1090 is now gospel. From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Oct 20 12:19:41 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:19:41 -0400 Subject: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0510200912t47380cfbw88d2f93d1c487ced@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001101c5d592$13bf8ff0$6800a8c0@Andrastea> >Boston Radio Interest and radio-info both report that WILD has moved >their classic soul/AC >soul to 97.7, "WILD-FM", at least for the daytime. Rap/hip-hop/younger >demo music will still >air after 6 pm there. Meanwhile 1090 is now gospel. Today's Herald gossip page noted that the morning team will be migrating there and that Hot 97.7 is now WILD-FM. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 Ofc: +1-978-538-7575 Fax: +1-978-538-7550 From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Oct 20 12:32:27 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:32:27 -0400 Subject: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 In-Reply-To: <001101c5d592$13bf8ff0$6800a8c0@Andrastea> References: <1fbbbced0510200912t47380cfbw88d2f93d1c487ced@mail.gmail.com> <001101c5d592$13bf8ff0$6800a8c0@Andrastea> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510200932u1e2f42d2u897b6c0c3f8d3556@mail.gmail.com> The morning team, meaning syndie Tom Joyner? >From BRW: "While the day will start with nationally syndicated Tom Joyner's talk show(which moved from AM 1090)..." (Have not heard the show but hear it's not just talk but some music too...) On 10/20/05, Brian Vita wrote: > Today's Herald gossip page noted that the morning team will be migrating > there and that Hot 97.7 is now WILD-FM. From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Oct 20 12:43:09 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:43:09 -0400 Subject: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0510200932u1e2f42d2u897b6c0c3f8d3556@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001901c5d595$5aff2080$6800a8c0@Andrastea> >The morning team, meaning syndie Tom Joyner? Names don't sound familiar. It was the Coach and somebody. I don't have the Herald here to check. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 Ofc: +1-978-538-7575 Fax: +1-978-538-7550 From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Oct 20 18:18:42 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:18:42 -0500 Subject: Why TSL May Be Down Message-ID: <20051020221842.A7FD3C6173@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Wonder why time spent listening may be on a downward spiral among certain demographics? This may help clarify matters: http://www.ugo.com/channels/music/features/backtrack/10_17_05/default.asp -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From xtrovato@yahoo.com Thu Oct 20 22:43:59 2005 From: xtrovato@yahoo.com (Rob) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:43:59 -0400 Subject: WBUR / WXRV interference Message-ID: <00c401c5d5e9$50f0c5e0$0180050a@gmiboston.com> Awhile back I had written to the chief engineer at WBUR to let him know the difficulty I was having picking up WBUR in the Lawrence/Haverhill area. I assumed it was because of WXRV. However, since the dial spacing between XRV and BUR is a full 1.6 mhz....I wasn't sure that stations this far apart could interfere with each other. Also, when I drive on 495 thru Methuen, Haverhill and such, WBUR was unlistenable. After a long wait (I had forgotten about it!), I recieved this response (below) from Michael LeClair of WBUR. I'm still puzzled what the interference could've been. Anyone have any idea...or maybe shed some more light on what issue was at play here? Thanks Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "MICHAEL LeCLAIR" Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Reception Question.... > > Hello- > > This is a follow up answer in regard to your message from > last February. You had brought to our attention the > interference to WBUR that was being caused by WXRV in > Haverhill. > > I am pleased to let you know that we have solved this > problem completely as of last week. In my driving tests in > the area I hear no sign of interference any longer. > > I apologize for the amount of time needed to take care of > this problem, but it involved more than one broadcast owner > and took a bunch of us engineers to figure it out. > > Please let me know if you experience similar interference > in the future as we would like to keep track of this > problem in case it recurs. > > thanks > > Michael LeClair > Chief Engineer > WBUR Group > > > On 9 Feb 2005 at 12:55, Rob wrote: > > Subject: Reception Question.... > Date sent: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:55:17 -0500 > >> Hello There....I'm hoping you can answer a question I have about >> reception >> issue with WBUR. >> >> I live in the Merrimack Valley, and when I am driving North on I-495 >> through Lawrence. Methuen and Haverhill, >> the reception for WBUR get's pretty spotty. Since I-495 encircles >> Boston...and is almost equi-distant to Boston, I am not getting further >> away >> from the signal...but it starts to come in spotty enough that I cannot >> listen. >> >> On occaision my home >> radios have trouble getting a steady signal from WBUR. >> >> Someone mentioned to me that it might be due to the station in Haverhill >> at >> 92.5. Seems unlikeley to me...as it is a whole 1.6 Mhz away. >> >> Are you aware of the spotty recpetion in this area? >> >> Any idea why reception is unreliable up here? >> >> (I mean, I'm not in the boondocks of NH, just about 25-30 miles North of >> Boston.) >> >> Thanks for your help!. From scott@fybush.com Thu Oct 20 22:52:24 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:52:24 -0400 Subject: WBUR / WXRV interference In-Reply-To: <00c401c5d5e9$50f0c5e0$0180050a@gmiboston.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20051020224633.03366680@gwind.pair.com> Keep in mind that WXRV shares its transmitter site with WCCM 1490, 1.49 MHz away from 92.5. Mike just had an article in the most recent issue of Radio World Engineering Extra talking about the interference that can occur at shared AM/FM sites, using his experience with this particular problem as an example. The article doesn't appear to be available online, but it suggests that the problem was RF from 1490 getting into the composite cable that connected WXRV's studio-transmitter link receiver to their exciter. It was creating a pair of sidebands at 91.01 and 93.99 MHz, and that lower sideband was what was killing WBUR. s At 10:43 PM 10/20/2005 -0400, Rob wrote: >Awhile back I had written to the chief engineer at WBUR to let him know the >difficulty I was having picking up WBUR in the Lawrence/Haverhill area. > >I assumed it was because of WXRV. > >However, since the dial spacing between XRV and BUR is a full 1.6 mhz....I >wasn't sure that stations this far apart could interfere with each other. > >Also, when I drive on 495 thru Methuen, Haverhill and such, WBUR was >unlistenable. > >After a long wait (I had forgotten about it!), I recieved this response >(below) from >Michael LeClair of WBUR. > >I'm still puzzled what the interference could've been. > >Anyone have any idea...or maybe shed some more light on what issue was at >play here? > >Thanks > >Rob > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "MICHAEL LeCLAIR" >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:26 AM >Subject: Re: Reception Question.... > > >> >>Hello- >> >>This is a follow up answer in regard to your message from >>last February. You had brought to our attention the >>interference to WBUR that was being caused by WXRV in >>Haverhill. >> >>I am pleased to let you know that we have solved this >>problem completely as of last week. In my driving tests in >>the area I hear no sign of interference any longer. >> >>I apologize for the amount of time needed to take care of >>this problem, but it involved more than one broadcast owner >>and took a bunch of us engineers to figure it out. >> >>Please let me know if you experience similar interference >>in the future as we would like to keep track of this >>problem in case it recurs. >> >>thanks >> >>Michael LeClair >>Chief Engineer >>WBUR Group >> >> >>On 9 Feb 2005 at 12:55, Rob wrote: >> >>Subject: Reception Question.... >>Date sent: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:55:17 -0500 >> >>>Hello There....I'm hoping you can answer a question I have about >>>reception >>>issue with WBUR. >>> >>>I live in the Merrimack Valley, and when I am driving North on I-495 >>>through Lawrence. Methuen and Haverhill, >>>the reception for WBUR get's pretty spotty. Since I-495 encircles >>>Boston...and is almost equi-distant to Boston, I am not getting further >>>away >>>from the signal...but it starts to come in spotty enough that I cannot >>>listen. >>> >>>On occaision my home >>>radios have trouble getting a steady signal from WBUR. >>> >>>Someone mentioned to me that it might be due to the station in Haverhill >>>at >>>92.5. Seems unlikeley to me...as it is a whole 1.6 Mhz away. >>> >>>Are you aware of the spotty recpetion in this area? >>> >>>Any idea why reception is unreliable up here? >>> >>>(I mean, I'm not in the boondocks of NH, just about 25-30 miles North of >>>Boston.) >>> >>>Thanks for your help!. From fox893@yahoo.com Fri Oct 21 06:50:34 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 03:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Why TSL May Be Down In-Reply-To: <20051020221842.A7FD3C6173@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20051021105034.38717.qmail@web54602.mail.yahoo.com> --- Laurence Glavin wrote: > Wonder why time spent listening may be on a downward > spiral among certain demographics? This may help > clarify matters: The author seems to have forgotten(well, mostly forgotten) the variety on radio. He mentions the uncertainty of music(and counters with the comment about the shuffle button) but really does not really go into the fact that you can hear that new song(that you may not know about for weeks if ya weren't listening) and also hear the jock tell you the artist, title , album it is from, what it is about, etc. Also, he/she never comments on the quality difference. Can an MP3 sound as good as a well processed FM? Sure! Do they always? No. Believe me, I have done my share of downloading music and the quality level is not always there. Heck, I have downloaded spots(yes, it was the "for airply" version and not just the low-quality sample) from national agencies that make me CRINGE when I hear them because the sample rate is so low. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Oct 21 08:50:56 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:50:56 -0400 Subject: WAVM Maynard High School License in trouble again Message-ID: <000d01c5d63e$1606fbc0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> NECN is reporting that a request for an increase in power for the Non-Commercial WAVM Radio station run by Maynard High School, has opened up the door for the FCC to remove their license and re-issue it to a West Coast Christian broadcaster. The FCC stated the award was made because the Broadcaster stated that it would reach "10%" of the area population, which is much in excess of what they estimated the High School's listenership is. WAVM recently resolved a co-channel problem with UMASS, WUMB...one wonders what they think of this "arrangement." The "Candy Company" never ceases to amaze me. Roger WA1KAT From sid@wrko.com Fri Oct 21 09:05:04 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 07:05:04 -0600 Subject: WAVM Maynard High School License in trouble again Message-ID: >>The "Candy Company" never ceases to amaze me.<< The "Candy Company" is only following its own rules. WAVM is a Class D station in the reserved portion of the FM band, making them a secondary service and subject to being taken off the air at any time, should anyone apply for a Class A license on that frequency. I'm just surprised it didn't happen sooner. And yes, I realize that WAVM had a CP for Class A status, but AFAIK it was never built, and has expired as a matter of law (all CPs now expire after three years, no exceptions). Of course, we all know that what the non-commercial FM band needs is another preacher whose god is, shall we say, less than holy. Colored green, in fact. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Oct 21 09:21:00 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:21:00 -0400 Subject: WAVM Maynard High School License in trouble again References: Message-ID: <001f01c5d642$4a31f220$0200a8c0@Tanguray> And of course the FCC can no longer determine if local content has more value than "Bird Feed," and they don't have the legal or engineering "expertise" to determine if a claimed 10% market share is anywhere near realistic. They are under manned, overworked, and forced to be driven by the almighty dollar. I'm surprised they didn't "auction" the frequency. Just another business the attorneys have taken over.... ...off the stool... Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Schweiger" To: ; Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:05 AM Subject: Re: WAVM Maynard High School License in trouble again > >>The "Candy Company" never ceases to amaze me.<< > > The "Candy Company" is only following its own rules. WAVM is a Class D > station in the reserved portion of the FM band, making them a secondary > service and subject to being taken off the air at any time, should > anyone apply for a Class A license on that frequency. I'm just > surprised it didn't happen sooner. And yes, I realize that WAVM had a > CP for Class A status, but AFAIK it was never built, and has expired as > a matter of law (all CPs now expire after three years, no exceptions). > > Of course, we all know that what the non-commercial FM band needs is > another preacher whose god is, shall we say, less than holy. Colored > green, in fact. > > > > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC > WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > Boston MA 02135-2040 > Phone: 617-779-5369 > Fax: 617-779-5379 > E-Mail: sid@wrko.com > From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Oct 21 09:21:00 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:21:00 -0400 Subject: WAVM Maynard High School License in trouble again References: Message-ID: <001e01c5d642$48eb6860$0200a8c0@Tanguray> And of course the FCC can no longer determine if local content has more value than "Bird Feed," and they don't have the legal or engineering "expertise" to determine if a claimed 10% market share is anywhere near realistic. They are under manned, overworked, and forced to be driven by the almighty dollar. I'm surprised they didn't "auction" the frequency. Just another business the attorneys have taken over.... ...off the stool... Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Schweiger" To: ; Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:05 AM Subject: Re: WAVM Maynard High School License in trouble again > >>The "Candy Company" never ceases to amaze me.<< > > The "Candy Company" is only following its own rules. WAVM is a Class D > station in the reserved portion of the FM band, making them a secondary > service and subject to being taken off the air at any time, should > anyone apply for a Class A license on that frequency. I'm just > surprised it didn't happen sooner. And yes, I realize that WAVM had a > CP for Class A status, but AFAIK it was never built, and has expired as > a matter of law (all CPs now expire after three years, no exceptions). > > Of course, we all know that what the non-commercial FM band needs is > another preacher whose god is, shall we say, less than holy. Colored > green, in fact. > > > > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC > WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > Boston MA 02135-2040 > Phone: 617-779-5369 > Fax: 617-779-5379 > E-Mail: sid@wrko.com > From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Oct 21 10:56:45 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:56:45 -0400 Subject: WAVM Maynard High School License in trouble again References: Message-ID: <001901c5d64f$b8294500$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I read that WAVM had built its CP and that the station had expected its consulting engineer to file for a license to cover, but neither the FCC, the station, nor the consultant can find any record of an application having been filed. In the absence of the application for a license to cover, the FCC had no alternative but to assume that the CP had not been built, with the result that pulling of the Class D license became inevitable. However, I'm not sure that that can be the full story because WUMB was also involved. WUMB had apparently signed an agreement with WAVM to lease WAVM's (upgraded) facilities during the hours when the the student programming wasn't airing. WUMB had filed an application for 91.7 somewhere to the west of here but, IIRC, had withdrawn that application when it reached its agreement with WAVM. I have a feeling that this story is far from over. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Schweiger" To: ; Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:05 AM Subject: Re: WAVM Maynard High School License in trouble again > >>The "Candy Company" never ceases to amaze me.<< > > The "Candy Company" is only following its own rules. WAVM is a Class D > station in the reserved portion of the FM band, making them a secondary > service and subject to being taken off the air at any time, should > anyone apply for a Class A license on that frequency. I'm just > surprised it didn't happen sooner. And yes, I realize that WAVM had a > CP for Class A status, but AFAIK it was never built, and has expired as > a matter of law (all CPs now expire after three years, no exceptions). > > Of course, we all know that what the non-commercial FM band needs is > another preacher whose god is, shall we say, less than holy. Colored > green, in fact. > > > > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC > WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > Boston MA 02135-2040 > Phone: 617-779-5369 > Fax: 617-779-5379 > E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From wollman@csail.mit.edu Fri Oct 21 11:55:46 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:55:46 -0400 Subject: WAVM Maynard High School License in trouble again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17241.3970.76606.969641@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > The "Candy Company" is only following its own rules. WAVM is a Class D > station in the reserved portion of the FM band, making them a secondary > service and subject to being taken off the air at any time, should > anyone apply for a Class A license on that frequency. Scott and I discussed this the other night. We're both fairly certain that, if nothing else, WAVM could survive as a D on another channel. Other channels that looked possible on cursory consideration included 106.1, 97.7 (would have to involve some arrangement with WYAJ), and 105.3. (Channel 200 would work but is too close to the Canadian border.) There was not a CP for the WAVM upgrade, only an application, which was apparently denied on Oct. 6 (CDBS is not telling me). I'd anticipate a P4R to be filed soon. The file number, for those following this at home, is BPED-19990726MA. -GAWollman From wollman@csail.mit.edu Fri Oct 21 12:02:04 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:02:04 -0400 Subject: WAVM Maynard High School License in trouble again In-Reply-To: <000d01c5d63e$1606fbc0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <000d01c5d63e$1606fbc0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <17241.4348.821095.593662@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > NECN is reporting that a request for an increase in power for the > Non-Commercial WAVM Radio station run by Maynard High School, has opened up > the door for the FCC to remove their license and re-issue it to a West Coast > Christian broadcaster. As usual, the "mainstream media" gets it completely wrong. WAVM has not lost its license. WAVM's application for class-A status was denied. It is still a class D, it may still appeal the decision, and it may seek another frequency (as detailed in my other message). (This sort of reporting always leaves me wondering about the quality of reportage on subjects I don't know as much about.) -GAWollman From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Oct 21 12:16:46 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:16:46 -0400 Subject: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 In-Reply-To: <001901c5d595$5aff2080$6800a8c0@Andrastea> References: <1fbbbced0510200932u1e2f42d2u897b6c0c3f8d3556@mail.gmail.com> <001901c5d595$5aff2080$6800a8c0@Andrastea> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510210916i4f2926fn3e7f94d33ee4d98f@mail.gmail.com> >On 10/20/05, Brian Vita wrote: > >The morning team, meaning syndie Tom Joyner? > > Names don't sound familiar. It was the Coach and somebody. I don't have > the Herald here to check. > I did a little research and actually it looks like they had both. The WILD _AM_ page (still up) lists "The Tom Joyner Morning Show with Willie Maye on sports". So a syndie show but apparently with local breaks, where Willie comes in. (Almost like how the Today Show used to be when Ch 4 was an NBC affiliate--there would be a local news break at :25 past the hour --Jack Chase, Don Kent). I'm not sure where the Joyner show originates from (don't think it's from here in Boston, though) but it looks like Joyner, with local breaks. And it would now be on the FM side. Am guessing if the AM side gets new calls, they could just call themselves "WILD" on FM...or who knows, may just keep to "WILD-FM" (yes, legally they'd still be WILD-FM anyway, but they need to keep saying that so they won't be confused with WILD (AM), now gospel) From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 21 12:58:17 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:58:17 -0400 Subject: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0510210916i4f2926fn3e7f94d33ee4d98f@mail.gmail.com> References: <001901c5d595$5aff2080$6800a8c0@Andrastea> Message-ID: <4358E5E9.6353.537699@localhost> On 21 Oct 2005 at 12:16, Bob Nelson wrote: > Am guessing if the AM side gets new calls, they could just call > themselves "WILD" > on FM...or who knows, may just keep to "WILD-FM" (yes, legally they'd > still be WILD-FM anyway, but they need to keep saying that so they > won't be confused with WILD (AM), now gospel) Maybe they'll call the AM side "WLVG." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Oct 21 14:12:16 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:12:16 -0400 Subject: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 References: <1fbbbced0510200932u1e2f42d2u897b6c0c3f8d3556@mail.gmail.com><001901c5d595$5aff2080$6800a8c0@Andrastea> <1fbbbced0510210916i4f2926fn3e7f94d33ee4d98f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000f01c5d66a$fb9a5480$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Wrong--at least sort of. If WILD (AM) gets new calls, Radio One has the option of keeping WILD-FM as the 97.7 calls or changing the calls to simply WILD. If they want parentheses instead of the hyphen, they must apply to the FCC to remove the -FM. The (FM) in parentheses after the first four letters is not officially part of the call sign, and if you want to pick nits, I don't think they would legally be able to say FM right after WILD during the TOH legal ID. The FM preceded by a hyphen IS part of the call sign and must be voiced during the legal ID. Regardless of which way they go--(FM) or -FM--no AM or TV or low-power anything can get WILD calls without Radio One's agreement. Considering that the call sign was just moved from AM, I think they will keep the hyphen for the forseeable future, but that's just my opinion. This has to be the least important topic that is routinely discussed on radio boards and mailing lists. OTOH, posting on this topic renews my radio-geek privileges for another six months. With those privileges and $1.60 (plus tax), I can get a small (oops, tall) coffee at Starbucks. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: ; Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:16 PM Subject: Re: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 > > Am guessing if the AM side gets new calls, they could just call > themselves "WILD" > on FM...or who knows, may just keep to "WILD-FM" (yes, legally they'd still be > WILD-FM anyway, but they need to keep saying that so they won't be confused > with WILD (AM), now gospel) > From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Oct 21 15:20:43 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:20:43 -0500 Subject: WBUR / WXRV interference Message-ID: <20051021192044.622D686B10@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Scott Fybush" >To: Rob , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: WBUR / WXRV interference >Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:52:24 -0400 > > Keep in mind that WXRV shares its transmitter site with WCCM 1490, > 1.49 MHz away from 92.5. Mike just had an article in the most > recent issue of Radio World Engineering Extra talking about the > interference that can occur at shared AM/FM sites, using his > experience with this particular problem as an example. > > The article doesn't appear to be available online, but it suggests > that the problem was RF from 1490 getting into the composite cable > that connected WXRV's studio-transmitter link receiver to their > exciter. It was creating a pair of sidebands at 91.01 and 93.99 > MHz, and that lower sideband was what was killing WBUR. > > s In the past I mentioned how WBUR-FM was subject to interference when I visited The Loop shopping center in the northeastern corner of Methuen. In recent trips, it's all cleared up now, and I attributed that simply to the new antenna and the power boost. This factor probably also contributed to the signal improvement. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Oct 21 15:25:49 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:25:49 -0500 Subject: WAVM Maynard High School License in trouble again Message-ID: <20051021192549.8338A86B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Garrett Wollman" >To: "Roger Kolakowski" >Subject: WAVM Maynard High School License in trouble again >Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:02:04 -0400 > > (This sort of reporting always leaves me wondering about the quality > of reportage on subjects I don't know as much about.) > > -GAWollman Exactly my comment about the three significant errors in the story about Bob Bittner and WJTO, Bath/WJIB, Rowley (NOT). -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Oct 21 15:37:30 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:37:30 -0500 Subject: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 Message-ID: <20051021193730.843D7CA071@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan Strassberg" >To: "Bob Nelson" , "Brian Vita" , >boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 >Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:12:16 -0400 > > > This has to be the least important topic that is routinely discussed on > radio boards and mailing lists. OTOH, posting on this topic renews my > radio-geek privileges for another six months. With those privileges and > $1.60 (plus tax), I can get a small (oops, tall) coffee at Starbucks. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > Another way to get your card punched is to drive to the WXKS parking lot tuned to WBZ while WILD 1090 is at just under 5KW and listen for the interference. With today's gas prices (although they ARE going down in the Merrimack Valley) I would only do that as a combined trip that would have taken me by Wellington circle anyway. Not yet. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From xtrovato@yahoo.com Fri Oct 21 15:24:20 2005 From: xtrovato@yahoo.com (R Trovato) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:24:20 -0400 Subject: New 50kw in Lebaonon NH? Message-ID: <003301c5d675$862de6c0$6401a8c0@xyz> Does anyone know what the proposed pattern might be for the 50kw station that is being proposed for Lebanon NH? Is the patter on file anywhere? Thanks! Rob From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 21 17:57:31 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:57:31 -0400 Subject: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 In-Reply-To: <000f01c5d66a$fb9a5480$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <43592C0B.12914.16578F0@localhost> On 21 Oct 2005 at 14:12, Dan Strassberg wrote: > Considering that the call sign was just moved from AM, I think they > will keep the hyphen for the forseeable future, but that's just my > opinion. Well, we don't really know yet whether it was "moved" from AM, since we don't know yet whether the AM will keep the calls. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Oct 21 17:24:21 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:24:21 -0400 Subject: New 50kw in Lebaonon NH? References: <003301c5d675$862de6c0$6401a8c0@xyz> Message-ID: <005a01c5d685$d06e2140$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Yup. It is moving forward--after a step backward a week or so ago. But the COL is not Lebanon; it's Claremont. The CoL had to be changed when it proved impossible to get permission to construct the antenna system in the originally proposed location. More recently, the FCC apparently discovered that the proposed 2.5-kW night operation from Claremont would interfere with a station in Greenland! I have the impression that this station is not on the air and, like a lot of Canadian allocations, probably never will be--but I don't know and I don't think it matters because the allocation is apparently notified to North America and therefore requires protection. Heck, I don't even know whether Greenland uses 10-kHz spacing on AM as do Western Hemisphere countries or 9-kHz, like European and Asian countries. But again, it doesn't matter because 720 happens to be evenly divisible by both 9 and 10. Anyhow, WQTH had to cut back its night power from 2500W to 670W. The 12.8 mV/m NIF contour now covers only 88% of Claremont, but it's more than 80%, so it should be OK with the FCC. Power-wise, 670W is still more than WQTH had been granted in its original go-around. Its CP for Hanover specified only 500W at night, but since Hanover is more centrally located in the Upper Valley market, 500W from the originally proposed site (which I believe was actually in Lebanon) might have been preferable. Unfortunately, even though the NH Supreme Court ruled in WQTH's favor, Bob Vinikoor, the permittee, could not get the Town to grant a building permit for the four towers. The new setup, south of Claremont, uses six towers (four by day and all six at night). The patterns are teardrops aimed north. On a historical note, Vinikoor bought the former transmitter of the Big 8, CKLW, for WQTH. He and a friend loaded it into a rented truck and drove it back to New Hampshire over a year ago. On the way back, they stopped in Rochester NY to show off the rig to Scott Fybush, who posted photos at Fybush.com. BTW, Vinikoor did put a station on the air from Lebanon, WUVR 1490. And he has another project going on simultaneously with WQTH--getting WNTK on the air with higher power at night. He has applied to add a second tower at WNTK's existing site and to operate at night with 2 kW--enough to cover Newport despite the huge signals from CFRB and WINS. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "R Trovato" To: Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 3:24 PM Subject: New 50kw in Lebaonon NH? > Does anyone know what the proposed pattern might be for the 50kw station > that is being proposed for Lebanon NH? > > Is the patter on file anywhere? > > Thanks! > > Rob > From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Oct 21 19:39:24 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:39:24 -0400 Subject: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 References: <43592C0B.12914.16578F0@localhost> Message-ID: <01c401c5d698$abf4b000$6501a8c0@pastor2> The confusion over call letters brings up a question. Many TV stations that I know of have dropped the "-TV" suffix since the stations' parent companies sold off their sister radio stations. Hence, what used to be WCSH-TV in Portland is now referred to simply as WCSH, WMUR-TV in Manchester as WMUR, and so forth. This is a fairly recent trend. Have the suffixes actually been legally eliminated in most cases, or are the stations not using them in their IDs just for convenience's sake? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Bob Nelson" ; "Brian Vita" ; ; "Dan Strassberg" Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 5:57 PM Subject: Re: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 > On 21 Oct 2005 at 14:12, Dan Strassberg wrote: > > > Considering that the call sign was just moved from AM, I think they > > will keep the hyphen for the forseeable future, but that's just my > > opinion. > > Well, we don't really know yet whether it was "moved" from AM, since we don't know yet > whether the AM will keep the calls. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From sid@wrko.com Fri Oct 21 19:56:40 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:56:40 -0600 Subject: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 Message-ID: >>Have the suffixes actually been legally eliminated in most cases, or are the stations not using them in their IDs just for convenience's sake?<< The latter choice is not an option if the ID is to be done legally. The call sign is whatever it says on the FCC-issued station license, with any FCC amendments such as a call sign change. If it says Wxxx-FM or Wxxx-TV on the license, and the station hasn't received a postcard allowing them to drop the suffix, then the suffix is an official part of the call sign and must be used as is in the legal ID. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 21 23:40:29 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:40:29 -0400 Subject: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <43597C6D.26728.29F8188@localhost> On 21 Oct 2005 at 17:56, Sid Schweiger wrote: > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC > WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI Is there a WEEI-FM again? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Oct 22 00:09:38 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:09:38 -0400 Subject: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 References: <43597C6D.26728.29F8188@localhost> Message-ID: <000e01c5d6be$7377f9a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Absolutely--103.7 Westerly -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: ; ; ; ; ; "Sid Schweiger" Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:40 PM Subject: Re: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 > On 21 Oct 2005 at 17:56, Sid Schweiger wrote: > > > Sid Schweiger > > IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC > > WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI > > Is there a WEEI-FM again? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From sid@wrko.com Sat Oct 22 11:18:52 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:18:52 -0600 Subject: WILD on 97.7, gospel on 1090 Message-ID: >>Is there a WEEI-FM again?<< 103.7, licensed to Westerly RI...the former WWRX...with studios in downtown Providence. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Oct 22 20:35:15 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 20:35:15 -0400 Subject: Weird simulcast Message-ID: <000d01c5d769$a38e0a20$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Talk station 96.7 WCME Boothbay Harbor, Maine is now simulcasting the morning show of rocker 105.1 WTOS Skowhegan. WCME used to carry the morning talk show from WVOM Howland but they are now rock in the morning and talk all day with Rush and Dave Ramsey both featured on the station. Weird. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Oct 22 20:54:31 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 20:54:31 -0400 Subject: Like the old times at WBLM Message-ID: <001901c5d76c$53de13f0$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Yesterday afternoon I tuned in to WBLM and they were playing "Panama Red" by the New Riders of the Purple Sage. Near the end of the song, it skipped. They were playing the song from vinyl. When the jock game on, he explained that he was playing an instant request and that he had to dig out the album because they only had it on vinyl. He then went on to mention that the album had a Braille sticker on the front because the first dj at WBLM was Steve Hoad, who is blind. It was nice to here a reference to a station's history on the radio. It was also nice to hear the name of an old friend. I work for Steve when he was PD at WAYU in Lewiston in 1986. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From purm0540@yahoo.com Sat Oct 22 22:07:58 2005 From: purm0540@yahoo.com (Stanley Muncherian) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Like the old times at WBLM In-Reply-To: <001901c5d76c$53de13f0$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <20051023020758.28488.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Steve Hoad is now a housing advocate with Coastal Enterprises, Inc. in Windsor, Maine. Stanley --- Daniel Billings wrote: > Yesterday afternoon I tuned in to WBLM and they were > playing "Panama Red" by > the New Riders of the Purple Sage. Near the end of > the song, it skipped. > They were playing the song from vinyl. > > When the jock game on, he explained that he was > playing an instant request > and that he had to dig out the album because they > only had it on vinyl. He > then went on to mention that the album had a Braille > sticker on the front > because the first dj at WBLM was Steve Hoad, who is > blind. > > It was nice to here a reference to a station's > history on the radio. It was > also nice to hear the name of an old friend. I work > for Steve when he was > PD at WAYU in Lewiston in 1986. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sun Oct 23 11:33:15 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:33:15 -0400 Subject: NECN story on WAVM (video link) Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510230833y3072c8f5x5ff7e70a6ee3c330@mail.gmail.com> Link to a story on New England Cable News about WAVM 91.7 FM in Maynard, which might well lose their license to a religious outfit merely because they requested a power increase. Paraphrase of faculty advisor: "To them (the FCC) we're just a bunch of forms. They don't understand what we do here." When you get to this page look for "FCC pulls plug on high-school radio station" http://www.boston.com/news/necn/Business/ From DSLRPIERCE@peoplepc.com Sun Oct 23 11:37:21 2005 From: DSLRPIERCE@peoplepc.com (Dan Pierce) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:37:21 -0400 Subject: Like the old times at WBLM References: <001901c5d76c$53de13f0$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000e01c5d7e7$a95786b0$a0a4e904@your6jnhhu0520> My first radio job was at WCOU-AM/WAYU-FM in 1981. Back then, the AM was a CHR format and the FM was an automated Country station. In 1982 we switched the CHR to the FM as "94 Rock" and put the AM on the bird (I forget the format or provider). I went to WBLM in 1983, so I may very well have played that particular cut from vinyl (the first CD player went into the studio...in those days located in Auburn...that year). I never knew Steve, but I heard some stories about him and the very humble beginnings of what was, by 1983, and still is today a great heritage radio station. Dan Pierce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 8:54 PM Subject: Like the old times at WBLM > Yesterday afternoon I tuned in to WBLM and they were playing "Panama Red" > by the New Riders of the Purple Sage. Near the end of the song, it > skipped. They were playing the song from vinyl. > > When the jock game on, he explained that he was playing an instant request > and that he had to dig out the album because they only had it on vinyl. > He then went on to mention that the album had a Braille sticker on the > front because the first dj at WBLM was Steve Hoad, who is blind. > > It was nice to here a reference to a station's history on the radio. It > was also nice to hear the name of an old friend. I work for Steve when he > was PD at WAYU in Lewiston in 1986. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Oct 23 11:57:49 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:57:49 -0400 Subject: Like the old times at WBLM References: <001901c5d76c$53de13f0$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <000e01c5d7e7$a95786b0$a0a4e904@your6jnhhu0520> Message-ID: <000b01c5d7ea$84e0a0c0$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Pierce" To: "Daniel Billings" ; Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: Re: Like the old times at WBLM > My first radio job was at WCOU-AM/WAYU-FM in 1981. Back then, the AM was > a CHR format and the FM was an automated Country station. In 1982 we > switched the CHR to the FM as "94 Rock" and put the AM on the bird (I > forget the format or provider). At some point in the 80's, WAYU got a power increase and started to broadcast from the old WBLM tower in Litchfield. When I was at WAYU, the FM was country and the AM was nostalgia off the bird. When Steve came in, he changed the format to "Hit Country" and tried to make the format more hip. Two or three years later all country stations had taken such an approach, though with much tighter play lists than Steve favored. From hykker@grolen.com Sun Oct 23 15:32:25 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:32:25 -0400 Subject: Weird simulcast In-Reply-To: <000d01c5d769$a38e0a20$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <000d01c5d769$a38e0a20$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20051023153130.01bed7a8@pop3.grolen.com> At 08:35 PM 10/22/2005, Daniel Billings wrote: >Talk station 96.7 WCME Boothbay Harbor, Maine is now simulcasting the >morning show of rocker 105.1 WTOS Skowhegan. WCME used to carry the >morning talk show from WVOM Howland but they are now rock in the morning >and talk all day with Rush and Dave Ramsey both featured on the >station. Weird. An interesting twist on the number of music stations that carry Stern, Imus or another talk show in AM drive. From mainefun40@hotmail.com Sun Oct 23 15:46:34 2005 From: mainefun40@hotmail.com (Steve Hoad) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:46:34 -0400 Subject: Steve Hoad Message-ID: Well I received a couple of heads ups about the postings on the list mentioning WBLM, WAYU, and Steve Hoad. Thanks for remembering me, somebody asked me this past summer about a story they'd heard and I had to say it was probably true---I won't say that about all story/rumors that come bac to me---but in this case it had to do with something I might or might not remember doing. Those days of radio will be returning soon, I can foresee the time to come when "freely formatted" radio will come back simply because the competition from satelites will make local radio broadcasting national formats passe. The beginnings are happening now, where national monsters like ClearChannel are allowing "expanded playlists" on some of their stations. My idea was always "if it sounds good and remotely like the format, give it a whirl". So, I grew up listening to evrything from classical (WFLN) to foreign language (WTEL, WCAM) to Philly rock and soul (WIBG, WHAT, WDAS (AM) and WFIL) then on to more "underground" and jazz, (WDAS FM, WHAT FM, WXPN, WRTI, WIFI, and WMMR). All this stuff in the Philadelphia area. The older music, like Glenn Miller et al, was brought to me by my Dad... Then, moving to Maine to go to school, I had my own ideas. We just kicked it out whereever we could, a 10 watt Bates College WRJR, WBLM (I consulted that up from white noise to big noise), then in and out of radio, part time and full time now and then. The fun of it should be mystery for listeners and diversity for broadcasters. WSNX, now owned and broadcasting locally, might just be a return to something that will come on strong. And, WKTJ FM, 1500 watts in monaural from Farmington Me at 99.3 is a real mixed local format that has lasted throughout all of this corporte take over stuff by just working hard to be all to the locals. So, thanks for remembering me, and don't believe all those stories. I often write for www.abilitymaine.org and do advocacy work as a volunteer and (when I can find someone to pay me) as a contract consultant. I am no longer a housing advocate per se, there's no money left in that project grant. I live, and raised my family, in a small town, in a fairly decent FM location and hope we're heading, with my daughter, for a sustainable farm. Currently we have turkeys, ducks, geese, and chickens---for meat and eggs. If you write, please put WBLM or something in the subject line so I won't "Junk" you! (smile) posting from Emma's Family Farm Windsor Maine; Steve Hoad From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Oct 23 19:30:54 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:30:54 -0400 Subject: Steve Hoad References: Message-ID: <001c01c5d829$cfef4370$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> >From my experience with Steve, I think most of the stories that you have heard are true. ;-) Steve's post reminded me of one of my favorite radio stories: in 1986, Jeff Dunham was leaving his job as the afternoon jock on WAYU so he could follow the Grateful Dead around the country for six months. On the day of his last show, the general manager, who was a complete idiot, was lurking about all afternoon ready to pull the plug if Dunham got out of line. He expected him to do something inappropriate during his last show. As it turns out, Dunham was well behaved all afternoon. Just after he said goodbye and started his last song, the GM came into the studio to say goodbye and he said that he was happy Jeff did not pull anything during his last show. The GM then left the studio and Dunham stuck a chair in front of the studio door because the last song that he played was Jimmy Buffett's "Let's Get Drunk" (and screw). The GM got back to his office just in time to hear the chorus of the song. He was not happy but there was nothing that he could do about it. Since then I have played the same song to say goodbye when ending one of my numerous tenures at both WCLZ and WMGX. When I did it at WCLZ, the PD, Brian Phoenix, announced at a staff meeting that I would never work at the station again. As it turns out, he hired me back twice. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From DSLRPIERCE@peoplepc.com Mon Oct 24 09:33:30 2005 From: DSLRPIERCE@peoplepc.com (Dan Pierce) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:33:30 -0400 Subject: Steve Hoad References: Message-ID: <002201c5d89f$86e5bd50$4695e904@your6jnhhu0520> I haven't seen the call letters WRJR in a long time. When I was GM of the station (Bates College in Lewiston), we switched to WRBC and upgraded to 100 Watts. I have no idea what the kids are doing with it today, but we sure had fun with it back then (early 1980s). Dan Pierce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Hoad" To: Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 3:46 PM Subject: Steve Hoad > Well I received a couple of heads ups about the postings on the list > mentioning WBLM, WAYU, and Steve Hoad. > > Thanks for remembering me, somebody asked me this past summer about a > story they'd heard and I had to say it was probably true---I won't say > that about all story/rumors that come bac to me---but in this case it had > to do with something I might or might not remember doing. Those days of > radio will be returning soon, I can foresee the time to come when "freely > formatted" radio will come back simply because the competition from > satelites will make local radio broadcasting national formats passe. The > beginnings are happening now, where national monsters like ClearChannel > are allowing "expanded playlists" on some of their stations. > > My idea was always "if it sounds good and remotely like the format, give > it a whirl". > So, I grew up listening to evrything from classical (WFLN) to foreign > language (WTEL, WCAM) to Philly rock and soul (WIBG, WHAT, WDAS (AM) and > WFIL) then on to more "underground" and jazz, (WDAS FM, WHAT FM, WXPN, > WRTI, WIFI, and WMMR). All this stuff in the Philadelphia area. The > older music, like Glenn Miller et al, was brought to me by my Dad... > Then, moving to Maine to go to school, I had my own ideas. We just kicked > it out whereever we could, > a 10 watt Bates College WRJR, WBLM (I consulted that up from white noise > to big noise), then in and out of radio, part time and full time now and > then. > > The fun of it should be mystery for listeners and diversity for > broadcasters. WSNX, now owned and broadcasting locally, might just be a > return to something that will come on strong. > And, WKTJ FM, 1500 watts in monaural from Farmington Me at 99.3 is a real > mixed local format that has lasted throughout all of this corporte take > over stuff by just working hard to be all to the locals. > > So, thanks for remembering me, and don't believe all those stories. > > I often write for > www.abilitymaine.org > and do advocacy work as a volunteer and (when I can find someone to pay > me) as a contract consultant. > > I am no longer a housing advocate per se, there's no money left in that > project grant. > > I live, and raised my family, in a small town, in a fairly decent FM > location and hope we're heading, with my daughter, for a sustainable farm. > Currently we have turkeys, ducks, geese, and chickens---for meat and eggs. > > If you write, please put WBLM or something in the subject line so I won't > "Junk" you! > (smile) > posting from Emma's Family Farm > Windsor Maine; > Steve Hoad > > > From DSLRPIERCE@peoplepc.com Mon Oct 24 09:37:01 2005 From: DSLRPIERCE@peoplepc.com (Dan Pierce) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:37:01 -0400 Subject: Like the old times at WBLM References: <001901c5d76c$53de13f0$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <000e01c5d7e7$a95786b0$a0a4e904@your6jnhhu0520> <000b01c5d7ea$84e0a0c0$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <002801c5d8a0$048d1910$4695e904@your6jnhhu0520> When I was there the station was owned by Dave Welborne. His son Pat was the afternoon jock. He now works at the Clear Channel cluster in Springfield, MA. Now that you have jogged my memory, I think the AM was indeed switched to a nostalgia format in '83. I guess by the mid-80s the owners (I have no idea who owned the stations by that time) decided Country was the way to go. Dan Pierce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: "Dan Pierce" ; Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Like the old times at WBLM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Pierce" > To: "Daniel Billings" ; > > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:37 AM > Subject: Re: Like the old times at WBLM > > >> My first radio job was at WCOU-AM/WAYU-FM in 1981. Back then, the AM was >> a CHR format and the FM was an automated Country station. In 1982 we >> switched the CHR to the FM as "94 Rock" and put the AM on the bird (I >> forget the format or provider). > > At some point in the 80's, WAYU got a power increase and started to > broadcast from the old WBLM tower in Litchfield. > > When I was at WAYU, the FM was country and the AM was nostalgia off the > bird. When Steve came in, he changed the format to "Hit Country" and > tried to make the format more hip. Two or three years later all country > stations had taken such an approach, though with much tighter play lists > than Steve favored. > > > From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Mon Oct 24 13:55:25 2005 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:55:25 -0400 Subject: Bob Bittner's operation(s) References: <20051016184037.54726.qmail@web53013.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001901c5d8c4$1ccb1cb0$98803418@DG07P241> Ah yes, the immortal Dick Brown. He was interesting to listen to. I recall one afternoon when he said that WXHR was thinking of hiring Bill Marlowe but there just wasn't enough room in the studio for another huge ego! Paul of Sandwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Adams" To: <> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: Re: Bob Bittner's operation(s) > I wasn't aware that WJIB was a "Rowley, MA" station - > It's license, I believe, is Cambridge-Boston, where, > as WTAO, it was a moderately successful top-40 station > in the late 50's, then became the AM station for WXHR, > a clasical-music FM-er, but playing pop music with the > legendary Dick Brown, who, I seem to remember, was > fired for playing traffic reports by Kevin O'Keefe > that he taped off the old WHDH radio. But I digress - > Bittner has been around a long time, and is doing the > unheard-of in a market the size of Boston - playing > "good music" with no commercial interruptions, on a > station with a half-decent signal, even at night. > Hats off to him!! > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ > From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Mon Oct 24 14:03:34 2005 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 14:03:34 -0400 Subject: Bob Bitner is front page news References: <000c01c5d19f$a7914d50$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <002301c5d8c5$3ff8bcf0$98803418@DG07P241> Thanks for bringing this up. I didn't know that 730 was Bob's station also and that it comes in here on Cape Cod. I have come across 730 in my "dialing for hope" and quickly dismisssed it as I recalled that frequency is WACE Choicopee. Strange the things that have stuck in my mind for eons. I have been listning to WJTO recently and caught the National Anthem at noon today. It is most pleasurable listening. Paul of Sandwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:46 AM Subject: Bob Bitner is front page news > http://www.timesrecord.com/WEBSITE/MAIN.nsf/0/269B6E639535CC060525709A005A56 D5?Opendocument > > The Times Record, the local papert for the Bath/Brunswick area, featured Bob > Bitner on their front page today. The link above will take you to a long > profile of Bob and his unique operation at WJTO. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > > From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 17:06:33 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 14:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FCC Action against (former) WSMN 1590 Nashua Message-ID: <20051024210633.73016.qmail@web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dated Sept 30 2005 or thereabouts. http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-261709A1.html They have a $7,000 fine for not enclosing one of there towers with fence properly. Do the new owners (property owners vs license owners) assume the liability? John B Derry From chrisf01864@lycos.com Mon Oct 24 20:17:38 2005 From: chrisf01864@lycos.com (christopher fuccione) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 16:17:38 -0800 Subject: stupid question Message-ID: <20051025001738.40FB8E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Hi I have a real stupid question that I've wondered about for a while. Why can you hear radio stations from other parts of the country at night and you can't hear them during the day? Thank You. Chris Fuccione -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 21:12:39 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: stupid question In-Reply-To: <20051025001738.40FB8E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20051025011239.96726.qmail@web30714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Why can you hear radio stations from other parts of the country at night Not such a stupid question. Although the ability to receive Medium Wave Broadcast Band (AM) signals at night has been observed for over 100 years, and by the general public since the early 1920's, having a better understanding why has only been around since the space age. In simple terms there is an electrical mirror way up in the sky. During the day the sun absorbs most of the mirror, but at night the electrical mirror comes back and reflects signals (skywave) back to earth. Sorry my wife is nagging me to go to the store, so I'll to end my explanation here! John B Derry NH From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Oct 24 21:25:54 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:25:54 -0400 Subject: stupid question In-Reply-To: <20051025011239.96726.qmail@web30714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051025001738.40FB8E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> <20051025011239.96726.qmail@web30714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <17245.35234.202787.480539@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > In simple terms there is an electrical mirror way up in the sky. During > the day the sun absorbs most of the mirror, but at night the electrical > mirror comes back and reflects signals (skywave) back to earth. Sorry my > wife is nagging me to go to the store, so I'll to end my explanation here! Not quite correct. There are multiple layers up in the ionosphere, which have different properties for radio waves of different frequencies. One of these layers reflects mediumwave ("AM broadcast") and shortwave signals. However, during the day, solar radiation energizes the layer below it, which causes that layer to absorb MW and some SW signals before they can get up to the reflecting layer. (That's why shortwave stations switch frequency during the day.) It takes a little while for that layer to change completely, which is why skywave sometimes persists for a while after sunrise. When the ionosphere is disturbed by a geomagnetic event, the absorptive layer may remain energized all night, producing what are commonly known as "auroral" conditions. -GAWollman From revdoug1@verizon.net Mon Oct 24 21:39:10 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:39:10 -0400 Subject: stupid question References: <20051025011239.96726.qmail@web30714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <041d01c5d904$e8169da0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Christopher, During the winter you'll notice that AM signals travel farther during the day as well. I live well up into central Maine and some midwinter days can clearly pick up stations in New York until at least mid-morning, sometimes all day if the weather's right. John's response applies there, too: during the winter, the sun, in the Northern Hemisphere, is, as it were, farther away: sunlight reaches us at a lower angle, thus enabling the "mirror" to function longer. I'm not particularly good at physics, but that's the best I can explain it. Bottom line: It all makes for fun radio listening. I was thrilled when, one night as a teenager growing up in the Worcester area, I picked up WOAI in San Antonio. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" To: "christopher fuccione" ; Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:12 PM Subject: Re: stupid question > > Why can you hear radio stations from other parts of the country at night > > Not such a stupid question. Although the ability to receive Medium Wave > Broadcast Band (AM) signals at night has been observed for over 100 years, > and by the general public since the early 1920's, having a better > understanding why has only been around since the space age. > > In simple terms there is an electrical mirror way up in the sky. During > the day the sun absorbs most of the mirror, but at night the electrical > mirror comes back and reflects signals (skywave) back to earth. Sorry my > wife is nagging me to go to the store, so I'll to end my explanation here! > > > John B > Derry NH > > > > > From billo@shoreham.net Mon Oct 24 18:49:41 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:49:41 -0400 Subject: FCC Action against (former) WSMN 1590 Nashua In-Reply-To: <20051024210633.73016.qmail@web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051024210633.73016.qmail@web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <435D6505.20709@shoreham.net> John B writes: >Do the new owners (property owners vs license owners) assume >the liability? > The tower owner, etc. could be in the cross hairs of the license holder but Uncle Charlie would focus on the party they have licensed, IMHO. Although there are enough barristers on this list who can speak with alacrity on the question..... Bill O'Neill From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Oct 25 00:01:46 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:01:46 -0400 Subject: stupid question In-Reply-To: <041d01c5d904$e8169da0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <435D75EA.17930.91F36F@localhost> On 24 Oct 2005 at 21:39, Doug Drown wrote: > Christopher, > During the winter you'll notice that AM signals travel farther during > the day as well. I live well up into central Maine and some midwinter > days can clearly pick up stations in New York until at least > mid-morning, sometimes all day if the weather's right. John's > response applies there, too: during the winter, the sun, in the > Northern Hemisphere, is, as it were, farther away: sunlight reaches us > at a lower angle, thus enabling the "mirror" to function longer. I'm > not particularly good at physics, but that's the best I can explain > it. Bottom line: It all makes for fun radio listening. I was > thrilled when, one night as a teenager growing up in the Worcester > area, I picked up WOAI in San Antonio. It isn't so much that the sun is farther away -- the difference in distance is negligible -- it's that in winter the northern hemisphere is tilted away from the sun, so that it's a lower angle -- the sun never gets as high in the sky -- and the days are shorter, so that the sun is in the sky for a lot less time. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Oct 25 04:11:54 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:11:54 -0400 Subject: stupid question In-Reply-To: <435D75EA.17930.91F36F@localhost> References: <041d01c5d904$e8169da0$6501a8c0@pastor2> <435D75EA.17930.91F36F@localhost> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510250111u538f7fe4g6ed35188b860c67c@mail.gmail.com> I have also noticed over the years the good reception an hour or two BEFORE sunset. It'll be about 5 pm, during this time of year, and not only will the NYC stations (660, 770, 820, 880, 1010, 1050, etc.) come in well here on the North Shore but I'll get stuff like WIZZ 1520 from Greenfield; the religious station at 1540 in Albany, etc. Also stuff like WZON (620, Bangor, ME); WSKW 1160 (Skowhegan, ME, etc.--despite being next to WTTT 1150) > > During the winter you'll notice that AM signals travel farther during > > the day as well. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Oct 25 15:06:11 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:06:11 -0400 Subject: stupid question In-Reply-To: <20051025173232.67474.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1fbbbced0510250111u538f7fe4g6ed35188b860c67c@mail.gmail.com> <20051025173232.67474.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510251206j6edcaab3u93dc9335039e1748@mail.gmail.com> >>the sun's light suppresses > some signals. Speaking of which...aren't there occasionally DX "finds" during eclipses? On 10/25/05, Dashing Dave wrote: > It's due to the sun's effect on the atmosphere. Solar radiation suppresses > all electronic transmissions. During particularly active Solar Flare > cycles...entire power grids have been knocked out. In this case - during > the daytime hours in your geographic location - the sun's light suppresses > some signals. When night falls - the same signal travels much much farther > and with greater clarity. This is why many AM stations have to turn down > their transmitter power at night - so they aren't broadcasting outside their > designated area. > From paulranderson@charter.net Wed Oct 26 09:18:12 2005 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:18:12 -0400 Subject: WEIM Fitchburg is being sold Message-ID: WEIM Fitchburg is being sold by David Wang for $795,000 to William Macek, former owner of the former WINQ Winchendon (now Winchester NH). Mr. Macek says he's going to continue the same format and local focus and hire some more people. The full story is at the Worcester Telegram and Gazette web site (registration required): Interestingly, the article says: Mr. Filippone took over WEIM in 1987, when the market included a handful of smaller stations, among them WFGL and WCMX, both no longer around. Of course, WCMX Leominster and WFGL Fitchburg are still on the air, although they both have "religious" formats. Paul From n1qgs@yahoo.com Wed Oct 26 12:07:55 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH off air for 3rd day now Message-ID: <20051026160755.85076.qmail@web30712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is off air for 3rd day now. I thought I heard signal/audio problems late last week, as compared to WSNH 900 AM Nashua, which it is/was simulcasting. John B Derry NH From scott@fybush.com Wed Oct 26 16:19:05 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:19:05 -0400 Subject: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH off air for 3rd day now In-Reply-To: <20051026160755.85076.qmail@web30712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20051026161844.02368590@gwind.pair.com> The word I hear is that they're still tweaking the diplexing system. WSMN is apparently running 200 watts from the WSNH site, BTW. s At 09:07 AM 10/26/2005 -0700, John Bolduc wrote: >WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH is off air for 3rd day now. I thought I heard >signal/audio problems late last week, as compared to WSNH 900 AM Nashua, >which it is/was simulcasting. > > >John B >Derry NH From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Oct 26 17:13:17 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:13:17 -0500 Subject: Missing FM Antenna Message-ID: <20051026211317.AE47CCA095@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> WCRB-FM 102.5 is back to broadcasting in monaural sound as of today (10/26) at 5:00 pm. My jaunt through the west-of-Boston suburbs over the weekend allowed me to view the Route 128 tower, here pictured: http://necrat.com/fm128.html You will note that there is a two-bay domed FM antenna at the base of the mast above the actual tower in the picture. Well that antenna is GONE; only the "ferris-wheel-on-its-side" near the top of the mast remains. It appears to me that WCRB broadcast in stereo over the weekend to broadcast the Boston Symphony concert in stereo, but outside of that is back to monaural so as not to sacrifice too much coverage until a new antenna is installed by American Tower. I wonder if it will also serve as WBMX's main or backup antenna? Observing the tower structure itself, I didn't see a new antenna that might have been installed temporarily, so I don't know what WCRB is using for now; maybe they're diplexing on the two-bay domed antenna lower down below WODS. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Oct 26 17:16:44 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:16:44 -0500 Subject: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH off air for 3rd day now Message-ID: <20051026211644.A91E3CA071@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Scott Fybush" >To: "John Bolduc" , boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: WSMN 1590 AM Nashua NH off air for 3rd day now >Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:19:05 -0400 > > The word I hear is that they're still tweaking the diplexing system. > > WSMN is apparently running 200 watts from the WSNH site, BTW. > > s > I checked it last weekend using my radio that displays relative signal strength and it was coming in quite well for a 200-watter up by the "police calls" in George Carlin's memorable phrase ("Wonderful WINO) and 15 or more miles away. The AM 900 tower is probably more efficient than the towers WSMN used out on W. Hollis St. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From xtrovato@yahoo.com Thu Oct 27 02:06:15 2005 From: xtrovato@yahoo.com (R Trovato) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 02:06:15 -0400 Subject: SupeRadio and John Garabedian Message-ID: <00ad01c5dabc$9d80d4e0$6401a8c0@xyz> Anyone know if John Garabedian has sold SupeRadio? (Yes, I know he still does Open House Party.) I notice the web site say "An Access.1 Commications Company". I believe that is the company that owns WWRL in NYC, no? When did Garabedian get out of the day-to-day operation of SupeRadio? From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Oct 27 07:48:12 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:48:12 -0400 Subject: WBUR Directional? References: <00ce01c5dac1$0d2810c0$6401a8c0@xyz> Message-ID: <001301c5daec$674a8080$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Splice the long URL below back together and paste the result into your browser's address field. Then click on "go." This is the official pattern from the FCC's public FM database. Radiation plots and coverage maps are NOT the same thing. Radio-info.com provides coverage maps--and not very accurate ones, at that. http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/polarplot?temp=64755&rotate=0.00&p0=1.000&p10=1.0 00&p20=1.000&p30=1.000&p40=1.000&p50=1.000&p60=1.000&p70=1.000&p80=1.000&p90 =1.000&p100=1.000&p110=1.000&p120=1.000&p130=1.000&p140=0.794&p150=0.631&p16 0=0.501&p170=0.501&p180=0.631&p190=0.759&p197=0.891&p200=0.891&p210=0.708&p2 17=0.603&p220=0.603&p230=0.603&p235=0.603&p240=0.676&p246=0.776&p250=0.708&p 260=0.562&p270=0.447&p280=0.447&p290=0.562&p300=0.708&p310=0.891&p320=1.000& p330=0.871&p335=0.871&p340=0.891&p350=1.000&p360=1.000& -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "R Trovato" To: "Dan Strassberg" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:33 AM Subject: WBUR Directional? > Did you say that WBUR is directional? > > If so must be 'barely' directional....judging from this page: > > http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WBUR&service=FM&status=L&hours=U From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Oct 27 08:42:22 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:42:22 -0400 Subject: WBUR Directional? Message-ID: <200510270842.AA1545535750@mail.ttlc.net> "Dan Strassberg" wrote: >Splice the long URL below back together and paste the result into your >browser's address field. Then click on "go." Try this short one instead: http://tinyurl.com/8fvbg From madprof@ix.netcom.com Thu Oct 27 11:11:31 2005 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:11:31 -0400 Subject: WBUR directional Message-ID: <009d01c5db08$b7173560$a2789c04@p133> woah, Roger Kirk, sorry, there's a discrepency from the link you quoted, between azimuths 320 & 0, as if those 3 point were.simply not included? otherwise, match. I used FCC FM Query: http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/fmq.html entering: call sign "WBUR" select output: "FM Query (detailed output + CDBS links" click on "submit data" wait for WBUR data to be displayed.... click on "Relative Field polar plot" resulting plot is same as Dan's, (his quote is a shortcut on FM Query, tho a pia or pita) Bob Sutherland From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Oct 27 11:16:53 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:16:53 -0400 Subject: WBUR Directional? References: <200510270842.AA1545535750@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <000d01c5db09$7eebd320$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I can't explain this, but your URL and mine DON'T yield the same pattern! Yours displays a pattern with VERY DEEP minimum at 340 degrees. (The minimum is SO DEEP, in fact, that the FCC would not allow such a pattern; FCC rules limit the depth of minima in FM directional patterns). My URL displays a pattern with a very shallow minimum at the same azimuth. I believe that my long URL displays the correct pattern, not only because it does not contain a minimum of "illegal" depth, but also because my listening to WBUR tells me that there is no narrow deep minimum in its pattern just slightly west of true north. Somehow, the 340-degree radiation value must have been lost (and replaced by zero) in the conversion from the long URL to the short one. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "rogerkirk" To: "R Trovato" ; "Boston Radio Interest" ; "Dan Strassberg" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: Re: WBUR Directional? > "Dan Strassberg" wrote: > > >Splice the long URL below back together and paste the result into your > >browser's address field. Then click on "go." > > Try this short one instead: > > http://tinyurl.com/8fvbg From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Thu Oct 27 11:47:23 2005 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:47:23 -0400 Subject: WBUR Directional? In-Reply-To: <001301c5daec$674a8080$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <00ce01c5dac1$0d2810c0$6401a8c0@xyz> <001301c5daec$674a8080$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20051027114249.031a1cb0@pop.gis.net> Would someone (Dan ?) please explain how a directional FM antenna works ? I understand how one does it with AM - multiple towers, varied power levels and/or phases but in FM isn't there only 1 antenna element in any horizontal plane ? Thanks in advance At 07:48 AM 10/27/2005, Dan Strassberg wrote: >Splice the long URL below back together and paste the result into your >browser's address field. Then click on "go." This is the official pattern >from the FCC's public FM database. Radiation plots and coverage maps are NOT >the same thing. Radio-info.com provides coverage maps--and not very accurate >ones, at that. > >http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/polarplot?temp=64755&rotate=0.00&p0=1.000&p10=1.0 >00&p20=1.000&p30=1.000&p40=1.000&p50=1.000&p60=1.000&p70=1.000&p80=1.000&p90 >=1.000&p100=1.000&p110=1.000&p120=1.000&p130=1.000&p140=0.794&p150=0.631&p16 >0=0.501&p170=0.501&p180=0.631&p190=0.759&p197=0.891&p200=0.891&p210=0.708&p2 >17=0.603&p220=0.603&p230=0.603&p235=0.603&p240=0.676&p246=0.776&p250=0.708&p >260=0.562&p270=0.447&p280=0.447&p290=0.562&p300=0.708&p310=0.891&p320=1.000& >p330=0.871&p335=0.871&p340=0.891&p350=1.000&p360=1.000& > >-- >Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net >eFax 707-215-6367 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "R Trovato" >To: "Dan Strassberg" >Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:33 AM >Subject: WBUR Directional? > > > > Did you say that WBUR is directional? > > > > If so must be 'barely' directional....judging from this page: > > > > http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WBUR&service=FM&status=L&hours=U Ron Bello Bello Associates, Inc. 160 Speen Street - Suite 303 Framingham, MA 01701 508-820-1100 Fax 820-1112 From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Oct 27 13:19:25 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:19:25 -0400 Subject: WBUR Directional? Message-ID: <200510271319.AA1835728982@mail.ttlc.net> Dan, This is an exact cut and paste of the URL I received. It ends with a "&" I plugged this one in, printed the result then plugged my URL in, printed it and got the same result. Am I missing some characters?? http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/polarplot?temp=64755&rotate=0.00&p0=1.000&p10=1.0 00&p20=1.000&p30=1.000&p40=1.000&p50=1.000&p60=1.000&p70=1.000&p80=1.000&p90=1.000&p100=1.000&p110=1.000&p120=1.000&p130=1.000&p140=0.794&p150=0.631&p160=0.501&p170=0.501&p180=0.631&p190=0.759&p197=0.891&p200=0.891&p210=0.708&p217=0.603&p220=0.603&p230=0.603&p235=0.603&p240=0.676&p246=0.776&p250=0.708&p260=0.562&p270=0.447&p280=0.447&p290=0.562&p300=0.708&p310=0.891&p320=1.000&p330=0.871&p335=0.871&p340=0.891&p350=1.000&p360=1.000& From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Oct 27 13:31:44 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:31:44 -0400 Subject: WBUR Directional? Message-ID: <200510271331.AA1826488564@mail.ttlc.net> Delete this post - Operator Error - Never Mind! Emily Latella >Dan, > >This is an exact cut and paste of the URL I received. It ends with a "&" I plugged this one in, printed the result then plugged my URL in, printed it and got the same result. > >Am I missing some characters?? > > >http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/polarplot?temp=64755&rotate=0.00&p0=1.000&p10=1.0 >00&p20=1.000&p30=1.000&p40=1.000&p50=1.000&p60=1.000&p70=1.000&p80=1.000&p90=1.000&p100=1.000&p110=1.000&p120=1.000&p130=1.000&p140=0.794&p150=0.631&p160=0.501&p170=0.501&p180=0.631&p190=0.759&p197=0.891&p200=0.891&p210=0.708&p217=0.603&p220=0.603&p230=0.603&p235=0.603&p240=0.676&p246=0.776&p250=0.708&p260=0.562&p270=0.447&p280=0.447&p290=0.562&p300=0.708&p310=0.891&p320=1.000&p330=0.871&p335=0.871&p340=0.891&p350=1.000&p360=1.000& > > From nostaticatall@comcast.net Thu Oct 27 13:46:20 2005 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:46:20 -0400 Subject: SupeRadio and John Garabedian In-Reply-To: <00ad01c5dabc$9d80d4e0$6401a8c0@xyz> References: <00ad01c5dabc$9d80d4e0$6401a8c0@xyz> Message-ID: I believe he sold it a few years back. From what I understand he has no official duties with the company anymore outside of airing and promoting Open House Party. In fact, the show now has a younger host, Kane from WFLZ/Tampa, handling the Sunday show. You have to wonder how much longer Garabedian is going to continue hosting the Saturday show... Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Oct 27, 2005, at 2:06 AM, R Trovato wrote: > Anyone know if John Garabedian has sold SupeRadio? (Yes, I know he > still > does Open House Party.) > > I notice the web site say "An Access.1 Commications Company". > > I believe that is the company that owns WWRL in NYC, no? > > When did Garabedian get out of the day-to-day operation of SupeRadio? > From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Thu Oct 27 15:31:02 2005 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:31:02 -0400 Subject: Bob Bittner's operation(s) References: <20051025010029.59448.qmail@web53011.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001a01c5db2c$f7f9bbb0$98803418@DG07P241> I'll bet Brown's stories would fill a book! I recall Dick Golden before he came to the cape but couldn't remember from where. Thank you. Actually, Dick Golden is only technically on OCN. He was relieved of weekly duties several months ago along with a change in their playlist. The owner/manager clalimed that they discovered the 70s and adding that to the playlist made them eclectic. Oh barf..... OMR or ERS or most any of the community radio or college stations are eclectic. I assume that Golden's Sat/Sun 8-12 shows are sent to the station recorded. I heard that he is doning something in DC but haven't been able to find out what. Anyone know? Paul of Sandwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Adams" To: "Paul B. Currier" Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:00 PM Subject: Re: Bob Bittner's operation(s) > Dick Golden, who now works for WOCN 103.9 in Hyannis > used to work with Dick Brown at the old WCOP in Boston > and had some very amusing Brown stories... > > > Mark Adams > IN NEWSWEEKLY - Boston > www.vidioview.com. > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > From markwats@comcast.net Thu Oct 27 17:09:38 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:09:38 -0400 Subject: SupeRadio and John Garabedian References: <00ad01c5dabc$9d80d4e0$6401a8c0@xyz> Message-ID: <003101c5db3a$d708a020$69081f42@Mark> David Tomm wrote: > From what I understand he has no official duties with the company anymore > outside of airing and promoting Open House Party. In fact, the show now > has a younger host, Kane from WFLZ/Tampa, handling the Sunday show. You > have to wonder how much longer Garabedian is going to continue hosting the > Saturday show... Does John Garabedian still host the Saturday "Open House Party" from his home studio? Does Kane of WFLZ host the Sunday "OHP" from a studio at WFLZ or at a studio elsewhere in his area? Mark Watson From nostaticatall@comcast.net Thu Oct 27 17:53:48 2005 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:53:48 -0400 Subject: SupeRadio and John Garabedian In-Reply-To: <003101c5db3a$d708a020$69081f42@Mark> References: <00ad01c5dabc$9d80d4e0$6401a8c0@xyz> <003101c5db3a$d708a020$69081f42@Mark> Message-ID: <62cc41c53b3e546221dc161b454e7c44@comcast.net> John still does his show from his basement in Southboro. Since WFLZ runs the Sunday night OHP show, I'd figure Kane does the show from there. He may have a producer at Superadio pushing the buttons and screening the calls though. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Oct 27, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Mark Watson wrote: > David Tomm wrote: > >> From what I understand he has no official duties with the company >> anymore outside of airing and promoting Open House Party. In fact, >> the show now has a younger host, Kane from WFLZ/Tampa, handling the >> Sunday show. You have to wonder how much longer Garabedian is going >> to continue hosting the Saturday show... > > Does John Garabedian still host the Saturday "Open House Party" from > his home studio? Does Kane of WFLZ host the Sunday "OHP" from a studio > at WFLZ or at a studio elsewhere in his area? > > Mark Watson > From scott@fybush.com Thu Oct 27 19:33:50 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:33:50 -0400 Subject: Somewhere, Laurence Glavin is celebrating...WCRB's for sale Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20051027193128.022cd4b0@gwind.pair.com> It appears that Charles River Broadcasting is putting WCRB and the rest of its group up for sale. It's hired a broker, and it's brought in Herb McCord (remember him from Granum?) to run the show while the sale goes through. Let the rumor-mongering begin... s From jjlehmann@comcast.net Thu Oct 27 20:26:30 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 20:26:30 -0400 Subject: Somewhere, Laurence Glavin is celebrating...WCRB's for sale In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20051027193128.022cd4b0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <200510280056.j9S0ukL3049680@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> When/if WCRB is sold, would they have to continue the classical format? Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA >-----Original Message----- >From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston- >radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Scott Fybush >Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:34 PM >To: bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Somewhere, Laurence Glavin is celebrating...WCRB's for sale > >It appears that Charles River Broadcasting is putting WCRB and the rest of >its group up for sale. It's hired a broker, and it's brought in Herb McCord >(remember him from Granum?) to run the show while the sale goes through. > >Let the rumor-mongering begin... > >s From rickkelly@gmail.com Thu Oct 27 19:59:47 2005 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:59:47 -0400 Subject: SupeRadio and John Garabedian In-Reply-To: References: <00ad01c5dabc$9d80d4e0$6401a8c0@xyz> Message-ID: <521b7fd10510271659m37b33b1ftba3df1e4e3a002d7@mail.gmail.com> On 10/27/05, David Tomm wrote: > You have to wonder > how much longer Garabedian is going to continue hosting the Saturday > show... He's gotta be in his early-mid sixties now, I remember him as "Johnny Gardner" on WPTR Albany in the early sixties. -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From xtrovato@yahoo.com Thu Oct 27 21:25:40 2005 From: xtrovato@yahoo.com (Rob) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:25:40 -0400 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale Message-ID: <00d901c5db5e$885619c0$0180050a@gmiboston.com> I know Garret likes when we comment and not simply post stories. However, I am too shocked by this news. Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale R&R has confirmed that Charles River Broadcasting's board of directors yesterday made the decision to put the company's five stations - Classical WCRB/Boston; News WCNX and Classical WCRI in Providence; and Classical WFCC and Classic Rock WKPE in Cape Cod, MA - up for sale. Media Venture Partners' Tom McKinley and George Reed have been hired to solicit bids for the five stations. Herb McCord, who is a CRB board member, says some or all of the stations may be sold, and it's unlikely a single buyer will take all five properties. McCord also did not rule out the possibility that Charles River Broadcasting would opt not to sell WCRB or its other stations. "This is not by any means a fait accompli," he tells R&R. "We have a sense of what the value of our stations is, based on the appraisal we received. WCRB is profitable, and there is no external cause for the decision to sell. We just have a fiduciary responsibility to the owners. There is no time frame, and no outside force driving this." With the decision, McCord will be overseeing the stations, spending two days a week in Boston. CRB CEO Bill Campbell has been placed on medical leave. While CRB has decided not to force WCRB's new owner to keep the station's Classical format, the company has decided to require the station's next owner to place a Classical format on its secondary HD channel. However, Boston has two other choices for Classical music on the FM dial: Harvard University-owned noncom WHRB and acclaimed NPR affiliate WGBH. From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Oct 27 21:05:46 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:05:46 -0400 Subject: Somewhere, Laurence Glavin is celebrating...WCRB's for sale References: <5.1.0.14.0.20051027193128.022cd4b0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <00c901c5db5b$bab9c1d0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Wasn't there something in Mr. Jones's will (the station's long-time owner; I can't remember his first name) to the effect that the station had to retain its classical format and could not be sold for X number of years? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:33 PM Subject: Somewhere, Laurence Glavin is celebrating...WCRB's for sale > It appears that Charles River Broadcasting is putting WCRB and the rest of > its group up for sale. It's hired a broker, and it's brought in Herb McCord > (remember him from Granum?) to run the show while the sale goes through. > > Let the rumor-mongering begin... > > s > > From billo@shoreham.net Thu Oct 27 21:51:29 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:51:29 -0400 Subject: Somewhere, Laurence Glavin is celebrating...WCRB's for sale In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20051027193128.022cd4b0@gwind.pair.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20051027193128.022cd4b0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <43618421.6030309@shoreham.net> Scott Fybush wrote: > It appears that Charles River Broadcasting is putting WCRB and the > rest of its group up for sale. It's hired a broker, and it's brought > in Herb McCord (remember him from Granum?) to run the show while the > sale goes through. > > Let the rumor-mongering begin... > > s IIRC, WCRB has some sort of "covenant" that would keep it "classical" for a hunk of years.... Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Oct 28 00:34:16 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:34:16 -0400 Subject: Boston Sports Media: 1510 to close its doors? Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510272134sa24f1e1y1513017592c009bb@mail.gmail.com> http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com Sporting News Radio may be pulling the plug on its local programming; "it may not last the week", according to BostonSportsMedia.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Oct 28 01:24:39 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:24:39 -0400 Subject: Boston Sports Media: 1510 to close its doors? In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0510272134sa24f1e1y1513017592c009bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced0510272134sa24f1e1y1513017592c009bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510272224p4ecc280fpe7b7fa2fd6a80d8e@mail.gmail.com> More details via Boston Radio Watch. Local shows have been dropped on WWZN as of right now (Diehards, Eddie Andleman) in favor of Sporting News Radio nationwide shows. The status of the SNR operation is in question. http://www.bostonradiowatch.com On 10/28/05, Bob Nelson wrote: > http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com > > Sporting News Radio may be pulling the plug on its local programming; > "it may not last the week", according to BostonSportsMedia.com > From stevewest106@hotmail.com Fri Oct 28 04:58:28 2005 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 03:58:28 -0500 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale In-Reply-To: <00d901c5db5e$885619c0$0180050a@gmiboston.com> Message-ID: > >I know Garret likes when we comment and not simply post stories. However, >I am too shocked by this news. I'm sure I echo most of the rest of this group when I say that it's alarming to think of some rock or hip hop based format ending up on WCRB. For me, that one station sets Boston apart from about 98% of the radio markets in the U.S. which don't have a commercial Classical station. It's always been a class-act (no pun intended). Here's keeping my fingers crossed that Charles River Broadcasting holds on to WCRB, or the next owner has the foresight to keep the long haired music. From billo@shoreham.net Fri Oct 28 07:38:54 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:38:54 -0400 Subject: Somewhere, Laurence Glavin is celebrating...WCRB's for sale In-Reply-To: <436162F3.17777.1836320@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20051027193128.022cd4b0@gwind.pair.com> <436162F3.17777.1836320@localhost> Message-ID: <43620DCE.9030005@shoreham.net> A. Joseph Ross wrote: >Probably the thing that most effectively keeps WCRB classical is that it is profitable. > > > I wonder if that deal will have a Vermont impact. WCRB's product, "The Classical Station" is fed to Ken Squires' WCVT (101.7 Stowe) (improved coverage here in Addison County although a hair more juice would be better). Same jocks, different voice tracks and for a network _very_ well executed and that's from a guy who lives for [a] good execution. It's a decent product and good to have as a classical choice to VPR. File under: A rising tide lifts all boats. VPR has classical product after Morning Edition and until Terry Gross at 3 p.m And, as our venerable Scott can best speak to, they are growing a "VPR Classical" network of stations. Hmm.....One wonders when Chittenden/Addison Counties will be a part of the footprint? ;-) I am holding out against Sirius for as long as I possibly can, akin to John Cleese in a sinking boat as people flail & bail with coffee cups and he exclaims, with authority, "Nothing to see here, as you were, move along." Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Oct 28 08:29:01 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:29:01 -0400 Subject: Globe article on WWZN changes Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510280529l56f3829dx52276d8797351e78@mail.gmail.com> http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/articles/2005/10/28/company_pulls_plug_on_wwzns_local_shows/ "There will be no more local programming on WWZN (1510 AM). Clancy Woods, president of Sporting News Radio, said last night that the company would have an announcement today, and according to industry sources, SNR is prepared to replace Eddie Andelman and company with its nationally syndicated lineup." And more: http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/shots/ From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Oct 28 09:43:59 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:43:59 -0400 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale Message-ID: > From: "Rob" > To: > Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:25:40 -0400 > Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale > > Boston has two other choices for Classical music on the FM dial: > Harvard University-owned noncom WHRB and acclaimed NPR affiliate > WGBH. That's actually incorrect. WHRB is a commercial college station. Eli Polonsky From mamros@MIT.EDU Fri Oct 28 10:18:12 2005 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:18:12 -0400 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale Message-ID: <200510281418.j9SEICCa029792@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> There's a Glob article in today's paper that provides a few more details. Online version is at: http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2005/10/28/wcrbs_parent_company_exploring_a_sale/ Some highlights: - The late Ted Jones' trust document "expressed hope" that the station remain classical, but according to Charles River Broadcasting chairman Mary L. Marshall, it is *not* an absolute requirement. CRB is, however, requiring any potential buyer to put a classical format on "at least one" of the digital channels. - Woody Tanger is meeting with CRB representatives today. His Marlin Broadcasting might be interested in purchasing the company. I suspect that may be the most likely way - indeed, probably the only way - for classical to remain on 102.5's primary channel. -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Oct 28 17:04:44 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:04:44 -0500 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale Message-ID: <20051028210444.6F26986B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Shawn Mamros" >To: bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale >Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:18:12 -0400 > > - The late Ted Jones' trust document "expressed hope" that the station > remain classical, but according to Charles River Broadcasting chairman > Mary L. Marshall, it is *not* an absolute requirement. CRB is, however, > requiring any potential buyer to put a classical format on "at least one" > of the digital channels. > > - Woody Tanger is meeting with CRB representatives today. His Marlin > Broadcasting might be interested in purchasing the company. I suspect > that may be the most likely way - indeed, probably the only way - for > classical to remain on 102.5's primary channel. > > -Shawn Mamros > E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu I can't "celebrate" or make oracular comments until a something definitive happens. A representative of Charles River said WCRB itself is profitable; WFCC has high ratings but WKPE-FM the last time I checked was the lowest-rated full-power station on the Cape so I wonder how they're doing. The two RI outlets are almost irrelevant to the whole picture. The piece of "news" in the Globe article is that Ted Jones's desires expressed in a covenant to his will were not chiseled in stone; I've heard for years that if WCRB by itself were to start losing money, it could then be put on the auction block. (I suspect this never applied to Charles River's other properties, but I can't say for sure). All this talk of "respect for Ted Jones's wishes" didn't keep the owners from dumbing-down the station to a disgraceful extent. It's definitely NOT a "class act". An example of a real class act I could specify is Seattle's KING-FM, which by the way, had a nearly identical 12+ rating in the Summer Arb, and Seattle has a so-called "smooth jazz" outlet which is the type of station that could siphon away people looking for unobjectionable but seemingly "sophisticated" music to play in offices or stores. Another item in the Globe story I find interesting is the fact that the Boston Symphony Orchestra is a part-owner of the broadcasting concern. Some Symphony Orchestras are now running recording companies... maybe at least one of them could own the radio station that broadcasts some of their concerts and do the job right! -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Oct 29 00:50:30 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:50:30 -0400 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4362C756.27548.6F5A48@localhost> On 28 Oct 2005 at 9:43, Eli Polonsky wrote: > That's actually incorrect. WHRB is a commercial college station. Which is rather unusual. All other college stations I've ever heard of were non-commercial. Are there any other commercial college stations anywhere? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Oct 29 00:50:30 2005 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:50:30 -0400 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale In-Reply-To: <20051028210444.6F26986B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4362C756.7938.6F5B18@localhost> On 28 Oct 2005 at 16:04, Laurence Glavin wrote: > All this talk of "respect for Ted Jones's wishes" didn't keep the > owners from dumbing-down the station to a disgraceful extent. It's > definitely NOT a "class act". I've criticized WCRB on this forum on many occasions. I don't like the repetition of certain well-known works (currently they're obsessed with playing Handel's Water Music almost every evening), and I don't like the loud and annoying ads. But I also must say, when I'm in my car and I'm in the mood for classical music, I check to see what's on WGBH and WHRB -- IF they are even playing classical music; often they aren't -- and I end up preferring whatever is on WCRB. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@csail.mit.edu Sat Oct 29 00:55:55 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:55:55 -0400 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale In-Reply-To: <4362C756.27548.6F5A48@localhost> References: <4362C756.27548.6F5A48@localhost> Message-ID: <17251.219.209644.548024@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Which is rather unusual. All other college stations I've ever heard > of were non-commercial. Are there any other commercial college > stations anywhere? Most of the Ivy League. Purdue. Formerly Loyola (of the South). The University of Missouri still owns a commercial TV station. (U of Iowa used to.) -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Sat Oct 29 00:58:50 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:58:50 -0400 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale In-Reply-To: <17251.219.209644.548024@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <4362C756.27548.6F5A48@localhost> <17251.219.209644.548024@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20051029005802.039b6798@gwind.pair.com> At 12:55 AM 10/29/2005, Garrett Wollman wrote: >< said: > > > Which is rather unusual. All other college stations I've ever heard > > of were non-commercial. Are there any other commercial college > > stations anywhere? > >Most of the Ivy League. Purdue. Formerly Loyola (of the South). >The University of Missouri still owns a commercial TV station. (U of >Iowa used to.) Notre Dame still does as well, as Mr. Wollman should recall, having visited said station. (He's slept since then, though.) s From nostaticatall@comcast.net Sat Oct 29 02:12:24 2005 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 02:12:24 -0400 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale In-Reply-To: <4362C756.27548.6F5A48@localhost> References: <4362C756.27548.6F5A48@localhost> Message-ID: WBRU in Providence is a commercial station affiliated with Brown University. I'm not sure that one counts though since I think a trustee or alumni group actually holds the license. Maybe Scott can shed some light on that. WYBC-FM in New Haven is owned by Yale University and is a commercial outlet on 94.3. The station runs an Urban AC format and has a joint sales agreement with Cox. Yale also owns an AM as well (WYBC/1340) but I believe that one does not run commercials, even though they could if they wanted to. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Oct 29, 2005, at 12:50 AM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 28 Oct 2005 at 9:43, Eli Polonsky wrote: > >> That's actually incorrect. WHRB is a commercial college station. > > Which is rather unusual. All other college stations I've ever heard > of were non-commercial. > Are there any other commercial college stations anywhere? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From hykker@grolen.com Sat Oct 29 09:43:14 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:43:14 -0400 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale In-Reply-To: References: <4362C756.27548.6F5A48@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20051029094143.01b28ec8@pop3.grolen.com> At 02:12 AM 10/29/2005, David Tomm wrote: >WBRU in Providence is a commercial station affiliated with Brown >University. I'm not sure that one counts though since I think a trustee >or alumni group actually holds the license. Maybe Scott can shed some >light on that. > >WYBC-FM in New Haven is owned by Yale University and is a commercial >outlet on 94.3. The station runs an Urban AC format and has a joint sales >agreement with Cox. Yale also owns an AM as well (WYBC/1340) but I >believe that one does not run commercials, even though they could if they >wanted to. Dartmouth has WDCR and I believe an FM too. Dunno about the FM, but I know the AM is commercial. From sid@wrko.com Sat Oct 29 11:14:17 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:14:17 -0600 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale Message-ID: >>>WBRU in Providence is a commercial station affiliated with Brown >University. I'm not sure that one counts though since I think a trustee >or alumni group actually holds the license. Maybe Scott can shed some >light on that. > >WYBC-FM in New Haven is owned by Yale University and is a commercial >outlet on 94.3. The station runs an Urban AC format and has a joint sales >agreement with Cox. Yale also owns an AM as well (WYBC/1340) but I >believe that one does not run commercials, even though they could if they >wanted to. Dartmouth has WDCR and I believe an FM too. Dunno about the FM, but I know the AM is commercial.<< WVBR-FM at Cornell University is not only commercial, but owned by the Cornell Radio Guild, an organization of Cornell students, and is NOT affiliated with Cornell University (which used to own WHCU-AM-FM in Ithaca). They used to simulcast on WVBR(AM) in the Cornell dorms...not sure whether that's still true since the studios moved off campus in the mid-1970s. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Oct 29 12:18:05 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:18:05 -0400 Subject: Globe: WILD to carry black talk network Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510290918q17f19694p31d960688e79b7f6@mail.gmail.com> http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2005/10/29/wild_to_air_new_african_american_talk_radio_network/ Starting after the first of the new year, WILD (AM) will carry a new black-oriented talk radio network. Programs will run 10 am to 7 pm on weekdays (perhaps a local morning drive show, too) and will feature the Rev. Al Sharpton. Of course given WILD's daytimer status, that really means 10 am to local sunset. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Oct 29 12:28:27 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:28:27 -0400 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510290928x493894f5w4f892f445f36442f@mail.gmail.com> Quinnipiac College in Connecticut owns WQUN (1220) which has standards and believe is part of the Red Sox network. The Dartmouth FM outlet is on 99.3 From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Oct 29 12:32:06 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:32:06 -0400 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0510290928x493894f5w4f892f445f36442f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced0510290928x493894f5w4f892f445f36442f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510290932i389f7369neaa6cf910b64b2fd@mail.gmail.com> oops, _I_ believe it's part of Red Sox network, that should say. http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1353.xml "From Milford to Madison to Meriden, to Hamden, New Haven and more, Quinnipiac's commercial radio station has a diverse format that includes local news, interviews, national news, and live coverage of Quinnipiac sports and the Boston Red Sox." Also Southern VT College in Bennington owns WBTN (1370) which has AC/oldies, Red Sox, Bill O'Reilly (I believe), and so on. When I was in the area recently they were doing some kind of a live remote from an apple farm and the "host" (probably just using a cell phone to call in) sounded like a college student. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Oct 29 13:01:05 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:01:05 -0400 Subject: Eddie A. gets to do a farewell show Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510291001s6635ac95ld0870f210090c42@mail.gmail.com> http://www.bostonradiowatch.com Looks like Eddie Andleman will get a farewell after all. Nov 3 at 2 pm >From the Globe: http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/articles/2005/10/29/plug_pulled_wwzn_staffers_bid_adieu/ From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sat Oct 29 15:34:59 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:34:59 -0400 Subject: Globe: WILD to carry black talk network In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0510290918q17f19694p31d960688e79b7f6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000c01c5dcbf$d9d20090$6800a8c0@Andrastea> > >Starting after the first of the new year, WILD (AM) will carry a new >black-oriented talk radio network. Programs will run 10 am to 7 pm on >weekdays (perhaps a local morning drive >show, too) and will feature the Rev. Al Sharpton. Of course given >WILD's daytimer >status, that really means 10 am to local sunset. Oh boy. Hate radio. Can hardly wait. Maybe I'll call and ask about Tawana Brawley. How about the use of some of his campaign funds. Can't the black community come up with someone better than this charlatan? Don't even mention Jackson. >From the news: In June 2005, Sharpton signed a contract with Matrix Media, Incorporated, to produce and host a live two-hour daily talk program for the EBN Radio Network. The program will debut in August 2005. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 Ofc: +1-978-538-7575 Fax: +1-978-538-7550 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Oct 29 15:49:40 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:49:40 -0500 Subject: Globe: WILD to carry black talk network Message-ID: <20051029194940.3D6A9CA071@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brian Vita" >To: "'Bob Nelson'" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: RE: Globe: WILD to carry black talk network >Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:34:59 -0400 > > > > > Starting after the first of the new year, WILD (AM) will carry a new > > black-oriented talk radio network. Programs will run 10 am to 7 pm on > > weekdays (perhaps a local morning drive > > show, too) and will feature the Rev. Al Sharpton. Of course given > > WILD's daytimer > > status, that really means 10 am to local sunset. > > Oh boy. Hate radio. Can hardly wait. Maybe I'll call and ask about Tawana > Brawley. How about the use of some of his campaign funds. On the first day of Jay Severin's new show, I hope to call and ask him about his Pulitzer Prize(tm)! -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Oct 29 16:00:00 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:00:00 -0500 Subject: CNN Programming Note: Message-ID: <20051029200000.95483C612E@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Some must-see/must-listen shows on the weekend are "On the Media" aired locally on WGBH-FM Fridays at 7:05 pm; NHPR Sunday mornings at 10:05 am; and WBUR Sunday afternoons at 2:05 pm. On TV, the list includes "Beat the Media" on WGBH-TV channel 2 Fridays at 7:00 pm and at minight, also repeated Sunday mornings on WGBX-TV channel 44 at 8:00 am..."Fox News Watch" Saturdays at 6:30 pm and Sundays at 2:30 am and 6:30 am...and until recently CNN's "Reliable Sources" formerly at 11:30 am Sundays. It disappeared for a time during the wall-to-wall hurricane coverage, but has resurfaced in a full-hour format from 10:00 am thru 11:00 am. If you've been wondering where it went, noiw you know (the times starting tomorrow are E.D.T.) -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From nostaticatall@comcast.net Sat Oct 29 16:36:40 2005 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:36:40 -0400 Subject: Eddie A. gets to do a farewell show In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0510291001s6635ac95ld0870f210090c42@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced0510291001s6635ac95ld0870f210090c42@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <884a6f433ec80c667c7ddf540a395361@comcast.net> That makes no sense. The 12 listeners WWZN had tuned away Thursday when they pulled the plug on local programming. Do they honestly expect Eddie's fans (all six of them) to know this farewell broadcast will happen, a full week later? They should have let him do it yesterday, if at all. Like the old saying goes..If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it...... Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Oct 29, 2005, at 1:01 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > http://www.bostonradiowatch.com > > Looks like Eddie Andleman will get a farewell after all. Nov 3 at 2 pm > >> From the Globe: > http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/articles/2005/10/29/ > plug_pulled_wwzn_staffers_bid_adieu/ > From francini@mac.com Sat Oct 29 19:19:54 2005 From: francini@mac.com (John J. Francini) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 19:19:54 -0400 Subject: Eddie A. gets to do a farewell show In-Reply-To: <884a6f433ec80c667c7ddf540a395361@comcast.net> References: <1fbbbced0510291001s6635ac95ld0870f210090c42@mail.gmail.com> <884a6f433ec80c667c7ddf540a395361@comcast.net> Message-ID: Actually, it does indeed make sense. Eddie was in Aruba on vacation last week, along with Pete 'The Meat' Sheppard of WEEI. (WEEI bits producer Pete Gustin made a couple of really funny bits about them hanging out together and/or running into one another this week. I wonder... Ted Serandis is no longer doing the WEEI night shift. Eddie needs a gig. I'd vote for either putting Eddie on from 7-12, or perhaps have him do overnights instead of the benighted J.T. The Brick. That would have me investing in all sorts of heavy-duty AM DX gear to bring WEEI in clearly after sunset, instead of flipping the dial to WSNH 900 AM. John Francini Nashua, NH -- ---- John Francini +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; | | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress.| | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" | | -- John Adams | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Oct 29 20:14:38 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:14:38 -0400 Subject: Eddie A. gets to do a farewell show In-Reply-To: References: <1fbbbced0510291001s6635ac95ld0870f210090c42@mail.gmail.com> <884a6f433ec80c667c7ddf540a395361@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0510291714j563755eiffc1e0838a094670@mail.gmail.com> Somehow I think the likes of Mike Adams, Steve Buckley, Wallach and Dickerson, or various others would get higher ratings than Eddie Andleman at night. Hmm, maybe 2 am after JT... From francini@mac.com Sat Oct 29 20:44:49 2005 From: francini@mac.com (John J. Francini) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:44:49 -0400 Subject: Eddie A. gets to do a farewell show In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0510291714j563755eiffc1e0838a094670@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced0510291001s6635ac95ld0870f210090c42@mail.gmail.com> <884a6f433ec80c667c7ddf540a395361@comcast.net> <1fbbbced0510291714j563755eiffc1e0838a094670@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: True. However, WEEI's track record of actually _hiring_ anyone that they test in a given time-slot does not inspire confidence. They tested all sorts of people with Dale Arnold before hiring Neumy -- who was never tested, IIRC. Ditto with Michael Holley -- I can't recall him doing a test show. Quite frankly, I would prefer a show like the Buckley/McAdam one they did last night. For sports talk, I really prefer to have at least two hosts, as they can keep the conversation going if the callers are either not calling, boring, or drunk. Wallach/Dickerson wouldn't work because of Dickerson's committments to Fox and the Celtics. I know: Let's pair Mike Adams and Eddie Andleman! It could be the A-team II! John At 20:14 -0400 10/29/05, Bob Nelson wrote: >Somehow I think the likes of Mike Adams, Steve Buckley, Wallach and Dickerson, >or various others would get higher ratings than Eddie Andleman at >night. Hmm, maybe 2 am after JT... -- ---- John Francini +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; | | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress.| | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" | | -- John Adams | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Sat Oct 29 13:14:10 2005 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:14:10 -0400 Subject: WBUR Directional? In-Reply-To: <001301c5daec$674a8080$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <00ce01c5dac1$0d2810c0$6401a8c0@xyz> <001301c5daec$674a8080$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20051029004303.0309a710@pop.gis.net> Radio-info.com provides coverage maps--and not very accurate >ones, at that. Where can one find accurate coverage maps ? From wollman@csail.mit.edu Sat Oct 29 22:56:11 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:56:11 -0400 Subject: WBUR Directional? In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20051029004303.0309a710@pop.gis.net> References: <00ce01c5dac1$0d2810c0$6401a8c0@xyz> <001301c5daec$674a8080$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <6.1.2.0.0.20051029004303.0309a710@pop.gis.net> Message-ID: <17252.13899.795190.539336@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Where can one find accurate coverage maps ? You get them from Doug Vernier, after forking over a bucket of money. -GAWollman From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Oct 30 01:31:54 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:31:54 -0400 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0510290932i389f7369neaa6cf910b64b2fd@mail.gmail.co m> References: <1fbbbced0510290928x493894f5w4f892f445f36442f@mail.gmail.com> <1fbbbced0510290932i389f7369neaa6cf910b64b2fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051030013000.02e54920@mail.mac.com> At 12:32 PM 10/29/2005 10/29/2005, Bob Nelson wrote: >Also Southern VT College in Bennington owns WBTN (1370) which has AC/oldies, >Red Sox, Bill O'Reilly (I believe), and so on. When I was in the area >recently they were doing some kind of a live remote from an apple farm >and the "host" (probably just using a cell >phone to call in) sounded like a college student. I know that they carry Thom Hartmann in the early afternoon. His show is syndicated by AirAmerica Radio, though not carried on AA stations. Larry Weil Temporarily in Lake Wobegone, MO Wobegone is a state of mind! From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Oct 30 13:12:48 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:12:48 -0500 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale Message-ID: <20051030181248.CBAA4CA071@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Larry Weil" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale >Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:31:54 -0400 > > At 12:32 PM 10/29/2005 10/29/2005, Bob Nelson wrote: > > > I know that they carry Thom Hartmann in the early afternoon. His > show is syndicated by AirAmerica Radio, though not carried on AA > stations. > > > Larry Weil > Temporarily in Lake Wobegone, MO > Wobegone is a state of mind! WXKS-AM/WKOX in the Boston area carries Thom Hartmann Thom Hartmann on tape- delay on Sundays. From what I've heard of it, he does a pretty good show. Some radio boards suggest that A.A. regards his show as a back-up when and if Al Franken decides to run for office. This indicates to me that if Air America survives for the duration, it is developing a bench so as to be ready for replacement hosts in the future. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Oct 30 14:09:34 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:09:34 -0500 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale References: <20051030181248.CBAA4CA071@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <004801c5dd85$7d4b4180$19eefea9@dstrassberg> AFAIK, Hartmann's show originates at KPOJ Portland OR from 6:00 AM to 9:00 AM Pacific time M-F (AM drive) and is carried live on most of the stations in the Pacific time zone that carry Air America. This includes some big AM signals. Besides KPOJ, which runs 25 kW-D/10 kW-N on 620 and has achieved good ratings with progressive talk, others on the list include KPTK Seattle 1090 50-kW-U and KTLK Los Angeles 50 kW-D/44 kW-N. Most of the larger west coast stations that carry progressive talk are owned by Clear Channel, but if I'm not mistaken, KPTK is owned by Entercom. Too bad that Clear Channel has some sort of relationship with Jerry Springer. His show is just awful radio and it would be much better to have Hartmann on five days a week than to have Springer (although unless CFGO fixes its antenna problems, the only way I'm going to be able to listen to WKOX at night again is if WKOX builds its power increase, which I don't think is likely to happen any time during my life). -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Larry Weil" ; Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:12 PM Subject: Re: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Larry Weil" > >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > >Subject: Re: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale > >Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:31:54 -0400 > > > > > At 12:32 PM 10/29/2005 10/29/2005, Bob Nelson wrote: > > > > > > I know that they carry Thom Hartmann in the early afternoon. His > > show is syndicated by AirAmerica Radio, though not carried on AA > > stations. > > > > > > Larry Weil > > Temporarily in Lake Wobegone, MO > > Wobegone is a state of mind! > > WXKS-AM/WKOX in the Boston area carries Thom Hartmann Thom Hartmann on tape- > delay on Sundays. From what I've heard of it, he does a pretty > good show. Some radio boards suggest that A.A. regards his > show as a back-up when and if Al Franken decides to run for > office. This indicates to me that if Air America survives for > the duration, it is developing a bench so as to be ready for > replacement hosts in the future. > > -- > _______________________________________________ > > Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages > > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 > > From rjoc@webtv.net Sun Oct 30 16:15:12 2005 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:15:12 GMT Subject: WRMO Milbridge ME on the air Message-ID: <20051030211512.830AFD6C6@smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net> Was just checking FM reception at the summit parking lot atop 1500-foot Cadillac Mountain in Acadia National Park at Bar Harbor. Was quite surprised to hear WRMO 93.7 Milbridge on the air in MONO with classic hits music. Stayed tuned to them for about a half hour. No PSAs, commercials,announcements or local info. Just a few liners "Greatest hits of all time, WRMO". At 2:58PM they gave Legal ID "From Aerosmith to ZZTop these are the greatest hits of all time on 93.7 WRMO Milbridge" and into Brown Sugar by Rolling Stones. According to FCC Data Base their revised CP is 130 watts from an antenna 13-meters/41 feet above ground level. Their original application was to be 50KW, but it expired back in July..I believe Scott had an item on it in one of his earlier NERWs. Reception only lasted about halfway down the mountain, and not surprisingly, only on easterly facing portions of the highway. Signal very prone to splatter from either WCYY 93.9 or WCTB 93.5 And here at home in SW Harbor, WRMO cannot be heard. They must have just come on the air this past week. I was down in Milbridge just 2 weeks ago, and purposely tuned to 93.7 just to pick up any sort of singal, but nothing then. It wil be interesting to see how well WRMO does with such a small coverage area. The town of Milbridge has perhaps 1,200 residents, and the two nearest towns of Cherryfield and Harrington are both less than 800. And being in Washington County, one of the most economically depressed portions of Maine, it may be a tough sell with advertising. Still, I wish them the best..Good Luck! Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From rjoc@webtv.net Sun Oct 30 19:29:26 2005 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 00:29:26 GMT Subject: WRMO Milbridge ME on the air Message-ID: <20051031002926.6FC56D5D0@smtpout-3201.bay.webtv.net> Application shows station owned by an individual with a Green Bay Wisconsin mailing address. No local studio or mailing address given. Shows application was granted back in July. Original application for 50KW goes way back to 1996. I presume this is just an effort to get the station on the air at minimal power, before re-applying for upgrade. Perhaps the more technically/legally-inclined on this list can elalborate on the proper procedures. Doesn't a station have to have a public file and a studio in its' city of license?? In this case nothing is listed for Milbridge, or even in the state of Maine. I'm tempted to drive down there sometime in the next week or two, when my work schedule permits; just to check this out, and scope out the facilities. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Oct 30 18:47:14 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 18:47:14 -0500 Subject: WRMO Milbridge ME on the air References: <20051030211512.830AFD6C6@smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <000501c5ddac$41829f00$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Do you know anything about the ownership? Is the low power permanent? From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Oct 30 22:10:27 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:10:27 -0500 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale In-Reply-To: <004801c5dd85$7d4b4180$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20051030181248.CBAA4CA071@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> <004801c5dd85$7d4b4180$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051030220319.02e65540@mail.mac.com> At 02:09 PM 10/30/2005 10/30/2005, Dan Strassberg wrote: >AFAIK, Hartmann's show originates at KPOJ Portland OR from 6:00 AM to 9:00 >AM Pacific time M-F (AM drive) and is carried live on most of the stations >in the Pacific time zone that carry Air America. From what I know, Hartmann does this show from 6 to 9 PT for KPOJ and the other west coast stations mentioned in the previous post, and then from 9 to 12 PT he does his national show. The first hour of his nat'l show is aired live on Sirius Left from noon to 1PM ET, with the remainder of the show aired in the overnight period. The most popular segment is the first hour on Fridays, when he has Congressman Bernie Sanders (I-VT) as his guest taking calls from listeners. I don't know if that will continue once Sanders officially announces his candidacy for the Senate. Larry Weil Temporarily in Lake Wobegone, MO Wobegone is a state of mind! From scott@fybush.com Sun Oct 30 23:52:41 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:52:41 -0500 Subject: WRMO Milbridge ME on the air In-Reply-To: <20051031002926.6FC56D5D0@smtpout-3201.bay.webtv.net> References: <20051031002926.6FC56D5D0@smtpout-3201.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20051030234917.03a80f30@gwind.pair.com> At 07:29 PM 10/30/2005, Rod O'Connor wrote: >Application shows station owned by an individual with a Green Bay >Wisconsin mailing address. No local studio or mailing address given. Shows >application was granted back in July. Original application for 50KW goes >way back to 1996. I presume this is just an effort to get the station on >the air at minimal power, before re-applying for upgrade. > >Perhaps the more technically/legally-inclined on this list can elalborate >on the proper procedures. They were within a few weeks of the CP expiring completely. Lyle Evans, who owns WRMO, has done the same thing with other stations in the past as CPs neared expiration. He had one for KHAM 99.5 Britt IA that was also nearing expiration, and there too he applied for (and was granted) a last-minute change to a minimal-power operation that could be put on the air in a matter of days. Once the station's on the air and the danger of the CP expiring unbuilt has passed, then you have all the time in the world to upgrade all the way back to the maximum for the class (50 kW C2, if memory serves, for WRMO.) >Doesn't a station have to have a public file and a studio in its' city of >license?? In this case nothing is listed for Milbridge, or even in the >state of Maine. > >I'm tempted to drive down there sometime in the next week or two, when my >work schedule permits; just to check this out, and scope out the facilities. There is indeed supposed to be a public file (though it can be at a library or lawyer's office) and a main studio, with specific legal requirements for each. There's also supposed to be a local number listed in the phone book, though if the phone book came out 11 months ago, there's reasonable leeway there, I'd think. s From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Oct 31 16:54:01 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:54:01 -0500 Subject: Lowell Sunset? Message-ID: <20051031215401.8BC2CC613B@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Remember the kerfuffle raised when the station then known as WJUL-FM 91.5 Lowell, Mass announced that it would combine with the Lowell Sun to put a morning news show on their wavelength? Much was made of the notion that the radio station was being taken away from the students and handed over to commercial interests. Some time later, the Lowell Sun saw the light and bowed out of the enterprise, but "Lowell Sunrise" carried on for a while. Well, although "The Lowell Sunrise Show" ("Show"?) is listed on WUML's schedule (WUML is the new set of call letters for that station), occasional visits to FM channel 218 have produced indications that a newsy "Lowell Sunrise" has been replaced by recorded music, often instrumental jazz. Any chance that the Lowell contingent could weigh in with actual information about this? -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Oct 31 17:20:13 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:20:13 -0500 Subject: Local sunset for WBZ is later than for other stations Message-ID: <000501c5de69$5ba1f440$19eefea9@dstrassberg> There is some bizarre FCC rule that allows AM stations to keep IBOC (which was originally supposed to be shut off at local sunset) on after local sunset--but not all night. With the end of Daylight Saving Time and until the end of October (today), Boston FCC sunset is 5:00 PM. IIRC, Boston FCC sunset is at 4:30 PM in November. It's 5:18 now, and I still hear IBOC hash from WBZ. Anybody know when it's supposed to go to sleep for the night? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From scott@fybush.com Mon Oct 31 17:24:21 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:24:21 -0500 Subject: Local sunset for WBZ is later than for other stations In-Reply-To: <000501c5de69$5ba1f440$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20051031172400.04747e70@gwind.pair.com> At 05:20 PM 10/31/2005 -0500, Dan Strassberg wrote: >There is some bizarre FCC rule that allows AM stations to keep IBOC (which >was originally supposed to be shut off at local sunset) on after local >sunset--but not all night. With the end of Daylight Saving Time and until >the end of October (today), Boston FCC sunset is 5:00 PM. IIRC, Boston FCC >sunset is at 4:30 PM in November. It's 5:18 now, and I still hear IBOC hash >from WBZ. Anybody know when it's supposed to go to sleep for the night? Sunset or 6 PM local time, whichever comes later. s From billo@shoreham.net Mon Oct 31 17:24:48 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:24:48 -0500 Subject: Lowell Sunset? In-Reply-To: <20051031215401.8BC2CC613B@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20051031215401.8BC2CC613B@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <436699B0.9000704@shoreham.net> Laurence Glavin wrote: >Any chance that the Lowell contingent could weigh in with actual >information about this? > > I'm certainly not geographically closest to that (and out of earshot) but you can file most of this under the idiocy of the UMass beaurocracy and failed attempts to partner with a politically-laden, increasingly irrelevant broadsheet. The state employs former longtime news guy and PBP guy at WLLH, Bob Ellis. Full-time state salary, full benefits, pension, and no heavy lifting. Bob was the state employee hosting the Sunrise show which was an aural incarnation of the Lowell Sun newspaper, replete with underwriting and opportunity for students to learn how the big boys do it. You might want to consider that this is the same school who is paying Christopher Lydon about $150K per year for a one hour talk show, four days a week, that is actually produced at WGBH Boston, live at night, and is actually on WUML delayed to 0900 the next day. The college kids may have a maximum level at which they can lift the station up during any given school cycle. But if it is MONEY that the state is in short supply of, then the all-student option, on it's worst day, costs less. Just the combined salaries of Lydon and Ellis dwarf the operating costs of the station many times over. Your tax dollars at work. Bill O'Neill From Joe@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 28 12:49:10 2005 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:49:10 -0400 Subject: Charles River Broadcasting Puts Its Stations Up For Sale In-Reply-To: <200510281418.j9SEICCa029792@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> Message-ID: <43621E46.15930.A132F90@localhost> On 28 Oct 2005 Shawn Mamros wrote: > - Woody Tanger is meeting with CRB representatives today. His Marlin > Broadcasting might be interested in purchasing the company. I suspect > that may be the most likely way - indeed, probably the only way - for > classical to remain on 102.5's primary channel. Yeah, just like WBOQ. ;-< -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com