From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sat Jan 1 00:33:16 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sat Jan 1 00:33:19 2005 Subject: Wishing All Those On The List Message-ID: <200501010033.AA3585213028@mail.ttlc.net> who observe the Julian Calendar, a Happy (and prosperous) New Year! For those that don't, may the next 365 days bring you peace, happiness and prosperity! From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Jan 1 09:50:56 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Jan 1 09:51:11 2005 Subject: Format flips Message-ID: <20050101145056.BBDE93966@mprdmxin.myway.com> On this day (New Year's Day) when more than a few stations will switch to a new format, let's talk about format flips: what are the types of flips one would expect these days? Maybe from "oldies" to "classic hits"... maybe more stations flipping to talk, especially Air America. More oldies and standards stations changing to something else. noticed on 100000watts.com's radio updates: Thu 12/30: "WMFG 1240 Hibbing MN flips from sports "The Ticket" to standards." Switching TO standards? Unusual these days! Tue 12/28: "WWMJ 95.7 Ellsworth/Bangor ME has flipped from oldies to classic rock "I-95." WYCL 107.3 Pensacola FL flips from oldies to classic hits "My 107.3." Dumping oldies and/or shifting decades (from "60s/70s" to "70s/80s:) seems to be a trend, as well as maybe referring to oldies as something other than "oldies" (like WDRC-FM Hartford: "Big Hits", or WBOQ-FM Gloucester, MA "Your Good Time Favorites") Getting back to the concept of flipping a format on New Year's Day, around Christmas of 2002, WQSO 96.7 started stunting by playing the jazzy tune "What Are You Doing New Year's?" over and over. On or around New Year's Day, the flip happened (or more of a format tweak) as they went from "oldies" to what they call "Super Hits of the 60s and 70s" (er, not much difference?) and took the nickname "The Wave". (Er, given the tragedy of the tidal wave recently,perhaps a rather unfortunate name for them...though people are calling it a "tsunami" more often, though). Anyway, they did use a New Year's song because the new format would be coming out around New Year's Day...maybe other stations have done the same. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Jan 1 11:44:17 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Jan 1 11:44:32 2005 Subject: Format flips References: <20050101145056.BBDE93966@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <002001c4f021$22c1cdd0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> 93.5 WCTB Fairfield "The River" had a classic rock format since early in 2004. The station had no jocks and few commercials for the whole year. Just liners and the weather. They switched to Christmas music at Thanksgiving. They are now back to classic rock but appear to have added jocks. I have not listened enough to figure out exactly what they are doing, but I think they have added one of the national syndicated morning shows with jocks after that. I do not know if the jocks are local or are voicetracked from another market. I think Scott mentioned that there had been a change in the management of the station recently. Maybe someone knows more. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From fox893@yahoo.com Sat Jan 1 16:18:21 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Sat Jan 1 16:18:29 2005 Subject: Format flips In-Reply-To: <20050101145056.BBDE93966@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <20050101211821.83385.qmail@web54603.mail.yahoo.com> > Tue 12/28: > "WWMJ 95.7 Ellsworth/Bangor ME has flipped from > oldies to classic rock "I-95." Actually, I believe they flipped to classic hits __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Jan 1 16:25:34 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Jan 1 16:26:28 2005 Subject: Wishing All Those On The List In-Reply-To: <200501010033.AA3585213028@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <41D6CEFE.22467.3DCB4F@localhost> On 1 Jan 2005 at 0:33, rogerkirk wrote: > who observe the Julian Calendar, > a Happy (and prosperous) New Year! Thanks, but this is the new year of the Gregorian calendar. I'm not sure when the Julian Calendar new year is, but it isn't today. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sat Jan 1 17:04:04 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sat Jan 1 17:04:07 2005 Subject: Wishing All Those On The List Message-ID: <200501011704.AA360055390@mail.ttlc.net> Boy am I living in the past! Thanks for righting my vessel! ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "A. Joseph Ross" Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 16:25:34 -0500 >On 1 Jan 2005 at 0:33, rogerkirk wrote: > >> who observe the Julian Calendar, >> a Happy (and prosperous) New Year! > >Thanks, but this is the new year of the Gregorian calendar. I'm not sure when the Julian >Calendar new year is, but it isn't today. > >-- >A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com >Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > From gary@garysicecream.com Sat Jan 1 17:23:30 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Sat Jan 1 17:23:44 2005 Subject: Wishing All Those On The List References: <200501011704.AA360055390@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <03a401c4f050$86ad70e0$6500a8c0@office> Was your vessel listing port? ----- Original Message ----- From: "rogerkirk" To: ; "A. Joseph Ross" Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 5:04 PM Subject: Re: Wishing All Those On The List > Boy am I living in the past! > > Thanks for righting my vessel! > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 16:25:34 -0500 > >>On 1 Jan 2005 at 0:33, rogerkirk wrote: >> >>> who observe the Julian Calendar, >>> a Happy (and prosperous) New Year! >> >>Thanks, but this is the new year of the Gregorian calendar. I'm not sure >>when the Julian >>Calendar new year is, but it isn't today. >> >>-- >>A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >> 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com >>Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> >> >> From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Jan 2 00:54:02 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:54:08 2005 Subject: Wishing All Those On The List In-Reply-To: <41D6CEFE.22467.3DCB4F@localhost> References: <200501010033.AA3585213028@mail.ttlc.net> <41D6CEFE.22467.3DCB4F@localhost> Message-ID: <200501020554.j025s2QC048332@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Thanks, but this is the new year of the Gregorian calendar. I'm not > sure when the Julian Calendar new year is, but it isn't today. Julian New Year is Gregorian January 14 until 2100. No country currently uses the Julian calendar for civil timekeeping any more, although the Eastern Orthodox churches (except in Finland) still use it for their liturgical calendars. I'm not aware of any radio stations specializing in Eastern Orthodox religious programming, although there are some brokered stations with all or predominantly Russian-language programming. -GAWollman From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Jan 2 13:17:26 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun Jan 2 13:01:27 2005 Subject: Format flips In-Reply-To: <20050101211821.83385.qmail@web54603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 1/1/05 4:18 PM, "Cooper Fox" wrote: >> Tue 12/28: >> "WWMJ 95.7 Ellsworth/Bangor ME has flipped from >> oldies to classic rock "I-95." > > Actually, I believe they flipped to classic hits This and the recent flip in Worcester of 100.1 to "The Pike" is making me wonder if it's now becoming a trend for "Classic Hits" stations to image themselves for nearby highways... Eli Polonsky From rjoc@webtv.net Sun Jan 2 17:02:48 2005 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Sun Jan 2 17:02:58 2005 Subject: Format flips Message-ID: <20050102220248.561ABD6A2@smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net> "I-95" has been advertising in local newspapers for the past couple of weeks as "Bangor's Home for Classic Hits". The ad features an Interstate 95 highway shield logo. Still hanging on to Imus in the Morning. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From markwats@comcast.net Sun Jan 2 20:24:39 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Jan 2 20:24:57 2005 Subject: Another Long Time Voice At WNAW/WMNB Let Go Message-ID: <006a01c4f133$00ea7cd0$6f918318@Mark> George Trottier, an "amateur" meteorogist who has provided weather forecasts since 1969 for WNAW (1230) and WMNB (100.1) North Adams MA was told a few weeks ago by the station's new management (Vox) that his services would no longer be needed after the end of 2004. I've included a link to an article about Trottier from the Berkshire Eagle. http://www.berkshireeagle.com/Stories/0,1413,101~7516~2630726,00.html Mark Watson From paulranderson@charter.net Sun Jan 2 21:01:02 2005 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:02:14 2005 Subject: Format flips In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51CBE799-5D2B-11D9-B6E1-0050E4D0384A@charter.net> On Jan 2, 2005, at 1:17 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > This and the recent flip in Worcester of 100.1 to "The Pike" is making > me wonder if it's now becoming a trend for "Classic Hits" stations to > image themselves for nearby highways... WRKI Brookfield CT has called themselves "I-95" for about 25 years now. They're not classic hits, but one of the first I ever heard of to name themselves after a road. Paul From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Jan 2 23:06:53 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Jan 2 23:06:56 2005 Subject: Where they are now Message-ID: <200501030406.j0346rPB055672@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> (You read that right, it's a statement, not a question!) Dennis Young, who was (by his account) the last music director at WRKO, is currently selling cars for Ernie Boch, Jr., in Naaaahwud. After leaving RKO, he spent time doing marketing for Capitol Records and then moved into sales. -GAWollman From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Jan 3 11:04:52 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon Jan 3 11:05:00 2005 Subject: Format flips In-Reply-To: <20050102220248.561ABD6A2@smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net> References: <20050102220248.561ABD6A2@smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: At 10:02 PM +0000 1/2/05, Rod O'Connor wrote: >"I-95" has been advertising in local newspapers for the past couple >of weeks as "Bangor's Home for Classic Hits". The ad features an >Interstate 95 highway shield logo. I knew years ago that WRKI 95.1 in Brookfield, CT, used the moniker "I-95". I don't know if they still do. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From nostaticatall@comcast.net Mon Jan 3 16:24:12 2005 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Mon Jan 3 16:25:05 2005 Subject: Format flips In-Reply-To: <51CBE799-5D2B-11D9-B6E1-0050E4D0384A@charter.net> References: <51CBE799-5D2B-11D9-B6E1-0050E4D0384A@charter.net> Message-ID: While it wasn't named after a road, WILI-FM/Willimantic, CT has used the "I-98" moniker for almost 20 years. For most of their history, the CHR station used the red and blue interstate-style sign with the moniker in the center as their logo. They've used a different logo over last few years however.... --Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas On Jan 2, 2005, at 9:01 PM, Paul Anderson wrote: > > On Jan 2, 2005, at 1:17 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > >> This and the recent flip in Worcester of 100.1 to "The Pike" is >> making me wonder if it's now becoming a trend for "Classic Hits" >> stations to image themselves for nearby highways... > > WRKI Brookfield CT has called themselves "I-95" for about 25 years > now. They're not classic hits, but one of the first I ever heard of > to name themselves after a road. From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Jan 3 16:57:42 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Jan 3 16:57:52 2005 Subject: Format flips Message-ID: <20050103215742.E994AE5BC8@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Rod O'Connor" >To: "Eli Polonsky" >Subject: Re: Format flips >Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:02:48 GMT > > "I-95" has been advertising in local newspapers for the past couple > of weeks as "Bangor's Home for Classic Hits". The ad features an > Interstate 95 highway shield logo. > > Still hanging on to Imus in the Morning. > > Rod O'Connor > Southwest Harbor, Maine Imus is barely hanging on to "Imus in the Morning". -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From jjlehmann@comcast.net Mon Jan 3 17:45:36 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Mon Jan 3 17:47:42 2005 Subject: Format flips In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003601c4f1e5$f1a34370$6400a8c0@n1zzn> There's also 93.3 WNHI "I-93" up in Belmont, NH which targets Laconia and Concord. Of course they're right along Interstate 93, and they also seem to have the "I" mean Imus. They're a classic rock station, and I believe they've been around for about 10 years. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Weil Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 11:05 AM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Format flips At 10:02 PM +0000 1/2/05, Rod O'Connor wrote: >"I-95" has been advertising in local newspapers for the past couple >of weeks as "Bangor's Home for Classic Hits". The ad features an >Interstate 95 highway shield logo. I knew years ago that WRKI 95.1 in Brookfield, CT, used the moniker "I-95". I don't know if they still do. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Jan 3 17:59:36 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Jan 3 17:59:47 2005 Subject: Doug Stephan Expands His Empire Message-ID: <20050103225936.D13FCC6137@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> You may not have been aware that the reconstituted WBIX-AM was counting on Stan Major to reverse its fortunes! Well, Stan the morning man for Alex Langer's radio network just up and retired. So today (01/03/05) WBIX began airing Doug Stephan's morning show. Nothing unusual about this, but it ALSO airs on "honest" business outlet WBNW-AM 1120, Concud, Mass. The two stations have a considerable amount of overlap, so the weakling (WBNW) may have to drop the show...although WCAP in Lowell still carries the illustrious Michael Savage show entirely within WRKO's contour, so who knows? -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Jan 3 18:43:27 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:43:38 2005 Subject: Doug Stephan Expands His Empire References: <20050103225936.D13FCC6137@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <001701c4f1ee$0a770820$19eefea9@dstrassberg> When WBIX is on night pattern, it is completely inaudible on Route 62 in Acton and W Concord, right in WBNW's back yard. When WBIX changes patterns and power at sunrise, it becomes clearly audible in that area, however. Since WBNW is listenable ONLY in that area on the rare nights when it switches to night pattern, you could certainly say that there is good reason for both stations to carry Stephan's program. BTW, WBIX noiw carries Barry Armstrong's financial talk show from 9:00 AM to 11:00 AM. WBIX now carries a total of 6 hours/day (M-F) of personal-finance talk--not as much as when it called itself a business station but more than any other station in the market other than WBNW and WPLM, which mostly simulcasts WBNW. Armstrong, of course, owns WBNW. BTW, in the mid to late 1940s, the ABC affiliate for Boston was WCOP 1150 but for a time, WLAW 680 Lawrence was also affiliated with ABC. WLAW covered every square inch of WCOP's coverage area with a better signal than WCOP's. So there have been several examples of stations in this market with overlapping coverage carrying the same programs. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:59 PM Subject: Doug Stephan Expands His Empire > You may not have been aware that the reconstituted WBIX-AM > was counting on Stan Major to reverse its fortunes! Well, Stan > the morning man for Alex Langer's radio network just up and > retired. So today (01/03/05) WBIX began airing Doug Stephan's > morning show. Nothing unusual about this, but it ALSO airs > on "honest" business outlet WBNW-AM 1120, Concud, Mass. The two > stations have a considerable amount of overlap, so the weakling > (WBNW) may have to drop the show...although WCAP in Lowell > still carries the illustrious Michael Savage show entirely > within WRKO's contour, so who knows? > -- > _______________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 > > From EBRadio@maine.rr.com Mon Jan 3 19:31:30 2005 From: EBRadio@maine.rr.com (EBRadio) Date: Mon Jan 3 19:31:30 2005 Subject: Whitman gone From 104.9? Message-ID: <000601c4f1f4$bc5221f0$6701a8c0@yourxu5v9frokn> One of the funniest and wittiest morning men since Dale was on RKO, Bill Whitman seems to already be gone from North shore 104.9 FM. How sad, tell me it's not true? His name is also removed from the web site. Current host is boring. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Jan 3 20:19:53 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon Jan 3 20:20:36 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050103201802.02c56a00@pop.registeredsite.com> Anybody heard about plans to improve the night signal of WKOX or WXKS? I can barely get them here in Quincy-- I don't know if other people on the south shore are having problems with them too. I had heard a while back that there were plans in the works to at least do something with WKOX's signal, but not sure what happened to those plans... From mlaurence@mindspring.com Mon Jan 3 21:34:21 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Mon Jan 3 21:34:37 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050103201802.02c56a00@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050103201802.02c56a00@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <23E298C4-5DF9-11D9-A643-000393D13824@mindspring.com> On Jan 3, 2005, at 8:19 PM, Donna Halper wrote: > Anybody heard about plans to improve the night signal of WKOX or WXKS? > I can barely get them here in Quincy-- I don't know if other people > on the south shore are having problems with them too. I had heard a > while back that there were plans in the works to at least do something > with WKOX's signal, but not sure what happened to those plans... It's not quite the South Shore, but I get WKOX consistently with just a little interference and no fading at night in Roslindale. WXKS-AM is utterly hopeless at night. Mark From jjlehmann@comcast.net Mon Jan 3 21:51:26 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Mon Jan 3 21:52:15 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050103201802.02c56a00@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <003701c4f208$498bdee0$6400a8c0@n1zzn> It's even worse a little farther south here in Hanson. 1200 is a mess of signals including Syracuse, and WOAI at times. 1430 is mostly Newark/New York with WENE Binghamton in at times. I know there was a plan to upgrade 1200 with the transmitter moving to Newton, but the locals spoke out too loudly against it. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 8:20 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Air America's night signal Anybody heard about plans to improve the night signal of WKOX or WXKS? I can barely get them here in Quincy-- I don't know if other people on the south shore are having problems with them too. I had heard a while back that there were plans in the works to at least do something with WKOX's signal, but not sure what happened to those plans... From sid@wrko.com Mon Jan 3 22:04:41 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:05:12 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal Message-ID: >>Anybody heard about plans to improve the night signal of WKOX or WXKS? I can barely get them here in Quincy-- I don't know if other people on the south shore are having problems with them too. I had heard a while back that there were plans in the works to at least do something with WKOX's signal, but not sure what happened to those plans...<< WKOX has a CP to move to Newton and increase power to 50 kW night and day (at the present WUNR site, IIRC), but the plan was shot down a few months ago in the Newton City Council. Beyond that, nothing's been planned. WXKS has no plans that I'm aware of. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Jan 3 22:29:03 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:31:20 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal In-Reply-To: <003701c4f208$498bdee0$6400a8c0@n1zzn> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050103201802.02c56a00@pop.registeredsite.com> <003701c4f208$498bdee0$6400a8c0@n1zzn> Message-ID: <200501040329.j043T3Bn065270@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > 1430 is mostly Newark/New York with WENE Binghamton in at times. 1430's NIF is really horrible -- I don't remember the number, nor do I have permission to publish it if I did, but it gets absolutely *creamed* by Endicott at night. (Sort of similar to what Troy does to WCAP, only worse.) I've heard both Endicott and Newark here, as well as Toronto. (Obviously I've not heard anything on 1200 other than WKOX, since they're about two air miles away from me. If for some reason they went off, I expect I'd hear Syracuse, poorly, and WLIB quite well.) -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Jan 3 22:35:31 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:35:34 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200501040335.j043ZVmG065319@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > WXKS has no plans that I'm aware of. Any kind of improvement to 1430 would be extremely difficult, unless they did something crazy like diplex on the 1120 site in Acton and somehow go to 50 kW DA-2. Even then I'm not sure the NIF would get as far as Everett.... Think of what they would need to protect: 1430s in Endicott and Newark (the major pests right now); your 1440 in Worcester and the one in Westbrook; 1420s in various places. All in all, a total nightmare, and probably not worth the money it would take to seriously upgrade the signal. Diplexing on the 1150 towers might have offered some relief, but with 1470 there, that's likely to be impossible now. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Mon Jan 3 22:51:03 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:51:08 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050103225043.0209d148@gwind.pair.com> At 10:29 PM 1/3/2005, you wrote: >< said: > > > 1430 is mostly Newark/New York with WENE Binghamton in at times. > >1430's NIF is really horrible -- I don't remember the number, nor do I >have permission to publish it if I did, but it gets absolutely >*creamed* by Endicott at night. (Sort of similar to what Troy does to >WCAP, only worse.) I've heard both Endicott and Newark here, as well >as Toronto. (Obviously I've not heard anything on 1200 other than >WKOX, since they're about two air miles away from me. If for some >reason they went off, I expect I'd hear Syracuse, poorly, and WLIB >quite well.) You might even have a shot at WOAI if conditions are right. 1200's a weird, weird channel these days. I don't hear Syracuse in Rochester, at least not on the night pattern (and not day anymore, either, since WHAM went IBOC). For me, 1200 is CFGO Ottawa as often as it's anything else. I hear WKOX every once in a while at sunset, too. Remember when WGNY in Newburgh NY moved from 1220 to 1200 under a long-running STA? It eventually had to go back to 1220, but its owners have a CP for a new 1200 in Kingston NY and a pending application to move that facility south to the Poughkeepsie area. As for 1430, the Endicott facility is a barn-burner. I was just there a few weeks ago visiting the TX site. They've got a new BE AM6A transmitter there that gets out well, and the night pattern is a five-tower in-line teardrop that blasts to the northeast (maximum lobe field strength is 1887 mV/m at 1 km, quite impressive for a 5 kW station.) And did I mention that it's up on a hill, so the array really launches that skywave towards Boston? When CC ended up with both WXKS and WENE, I wondered if they mightn't try to upgrade WXKS at WENE's expense. But my guess is that all the other protections involved (1430 Newark NJ, 1430 Toronto, 1440 Worcester, 1440 Westbrook ME, 1420 New Bedford, 1450 Newburyport, etc.) would have made any useful upgrade prohibitively expensive. s From sven@gordsven.com Mon Jan 3 23:00:13 2005 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Mon Jan 3 23:00:23 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Sid Schweiger wrote: > > WKOX has a CP to move to Newton and increase power to 50 kW night and > day (at the present WUNR site, IIRC), but the plan was shot down a few > months ago in the Newton City Council. Beyond that, nothing's been > planned. Considering that WKOX is federally licenced, can't that over-ride some hokey-pokey city council's decision? -- Stephanie Weil New York City From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Jan 3 23:06:34 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Jan 3 23:06:37 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200501040406.j0446YKF065556@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Considering that WKOX is federally licenced, can't that over-ride some > hokey-pokey city council's decision? No. Just because the Federal government says you *may* do something, does not imply that other levels of government must allow you to do it. However, in our system, some regulatory powers are reserved to the Feds, so a locality must base its action on something that it has the legal authority to regulate. If the WKOX move had not involved substantial construction, the City of Newton would not have had authority to deny permission for the change. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Mon Jan 3 23:11:55 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Jan 3 23:11:58 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal In-Reply-To: <200501040406.j0446YKF065556@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200501040406.j0446YKF065556@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050103230950.0204cb20@gwind.pair.com> At 11:06 PM 1/3/2005, Garrett Wollman wrote: >< said: > > > Considering that WKOX is federally licenced, can't that over-ride some > > hokey-pokey city council's decision? > >No. Just because the Federal government says you *may* do something, >does not imply that other levels of government must allow you to do >it. However, in our system, some regulatory powers are reserved to >the Feds, so a locality must base its action on something that it has >the legal authority to regulate. > >If the WKOX move had not involved substantial construction, the City >of Newton would not have had authority to deny permission for the >change. And given that the stated reason for the city's denial of the construction plans was concern about high RF levels in the neighborhood abutting the site, I still can't understand why they didn't do it thusly: come up with a plan for WUNR (the existing station there) to go from its current two-tower 5 kW night operation to five shorter towers, still with 5 kW, and hence no additional RF concerns - and only THEN, once the towers were built, quietly add WKOX and WRCA to the site? So many mysteries... s From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jan 4 07:24:09 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Jan 4 07:24:15 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050103201802.02c56a00@pop.registeredsite.com><003701c4f208$498bdee0$6400a8c0@n1zzn> <200501040329.j043T3Bn065270@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <002201c4f258$4e6c9800$19eefea9@satpro4600> If you had the number, you would not need anybody's permission to publish it because it would be a matter of public record. Applications to improve AM facilities' nighttime signals contain the NIF value and all of the interfering-signal 10% skywave values in a table that shows the basis for the NIF calculations. Those applications are in the public domain and they appear in the FCC's on-line CDBS database at www.fcc.gov. WXKS (AM) has no application on file, however, so you can't find its number in CDBS. Two NIF values for local stations that DO appear are WCRN: 10.55 mV/m and WROL: 37 mV/m. I cite these because a) they are available on CDBS and that's where I found them and b) to demonstrate that the numbers are at best ideosyncratic. I know that if you look at 950, you see both WPEN and WIBX sending strong nighttime signals in the direction of Boston, but the fact is that I can get WROL's (currently 90W) night signal here in Arlington Heights with very little interference on most nights. On paper, WROL delivers less than 1 mV/m here when it operates with 90W. Until about a year ago, WCRN's night signal (also about 1 mV/m) was also quite listenable here at night. Then something happened and both day and night signals deteriorated. I wonder whether WCRN started work on its ground system in preparation for its night upgrade to 50 kW, because the interference to the groundwave signal from the station's own skywave appeared to become considerably worse. As far as WKOX goes, I think that if CCU were to give up its quest to make WKOX into a Boston station, it could do a 50 kW upgrade from a site in MetroWest--albeit NOT 100 Mt Wayte Ave, where the town of Framingham spoke up just as loudly as did the City of Newton--albeit maybe a decade earlier. CCU's fixation on the Boston signal is not serving the listeners or the company well. Were WKOX to upgrade while remaining in MetroWest, it would become the ONLY BIG nighttime AM signal licensed to MetroWest--an area with many people and lots of disposable income. BTW, my listening to 1200 at night seems to point to WTLA as the primary interferer to WKOX--and if you look at the directional patterns on 1200, that seems plausible. The mystery to me is why do I not also get WAGE. WAGE is the station that originally was responsible for WKOX's high NIF. WKOX was the VERY FIRST AM to have its application to move to what had been a Class IA clear channel accepted for filing by the FCC. In fact, WKOX's application was the ONLY ONE accepted for filing before the FCC imposed a freeze on applications in prparation for the new rules. WKOX had applied for 50 kW DA-N from the Mt Wayte site. When the FCC finally lifted the freeze, it announced that new full-time stations would be limited to a maximum of 10 kW-D and 1 kW-N (those limitations were subsequntly lifted--ultimately allowing 50 kW-U), and then accepted a SLEW of applications including WAGE's and WKOX's modified proposal. Under WKOX's original proposal, the only interfering skywave was WOAI's. However, WAGE would deliver a much stronger signal, imposing a high NIF on WKOX. The two applications were put into a consolidated hearing, which ended when WKOX agreed to accept interference from WAGE. Indeed, when WKOX first went on the air at night, WAGE DID cause quite severe interference to WKOX and IIRC was the only station that did so. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Jeff Lehmann" Cc: Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 10:29 PM Subject: RE: Air America's night signal > > 1430's NIF is really horrible -- I don't remember the number, nor do I > have permission to publish it if I did From SonnyDaye1@aol.com Tue Jan 4 11:26:52 2005 From: SonnyDaye1@aol.com (SonnyDaye1@aol.com) Date: Tue Jan 4 11:27:04 2005 Subject: Stations named after highways Message-ID: <14ED045C.156CED16.0CE337EB@aol.com> Reading all this talk about naming stations after highways, I just realized that I may have been a contributor to this concept. FORTY years ago when I was doing the "Afternoon A-Go-Go" show on UMass' WMUA in Amherst (91.1 FM), in my attempt to emulate the great Top 40 stations of the day (e.g. WDRC, Hartford), I used to call our station "RADIO 91". I even made jingles using that term. I won't get into the horrified looks on the "higher-ups'" faces as I was turning what was, up to then, an FM, college "educational" station, into a "Pseudo-Top 40, Personality-Type" station. Reading this thread, I realized that "Radio 91" COULD have referred to nearby Interstate 91! Thus, am I the EARLIEST one to do this "highway naming"? Did I invent the concept without even knowing it? I guess I FINALLY made my mark in radio history! :-) WHOOPS! My wife just asked me if Route 91 (or the whole Interstate highway system) even existed back then! Never mind. -Sonny Daye = = = Original message = = = While it wasn't named after a road, WILI-FM/Willimantic, CT has used the "I-98" moniker for almost 20 years. For most of their history, the CHR station used the red and blue interstate-style sign with the moniker in the center as their logo. They've used a different logo over last few years however.... --Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas On Jan 2, 2005, at 9:01 PM, Paul Anderson wrote: > > On Jan 2, 2005, at 1:17 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > >> This and the recent flip in Worcester of 100.1 to "The Pike" is >> making me wonder if it's now becoming a trend for "Classic Hits" >> stations to image themselves for nearby highways... > > WRKI Brookfield CT has called themselves "I-95" for about 25 years > now. They're not classic hits, but one of the first I ever heard of > to name themselves after a road. From: "Rod O'Connor" >To: "Eli Polonsky" >Subject: Re: Format flips >Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:02:48 GMT > > "I-95" has been advertising in local newspapers for the past couple > of weeks as "Bangor's Home for Classic Hits". The ad features an > Interstate 95 highway shield logo. > There's also 93.3 WNHI "I-93" up in Belmont, NH which targets Laconia and Concord. Of course they're right along Interstate 93, and they also seem to have the "I" mean Imus. They're a classic rock station, and I believe they've been around for about 10 years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___________________________________________________________ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Jan 4 11:46:31 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Jan 4 11:46:45 2005 Subject: Stations named after highways Message-ID: <20050104164631.57A9E3ADE@mprdmxin.myway.com> I remember in the 70s (maybe) and 80s (definitely) WGNA-FM 107.7 Glens Falls, NY (country) was called "Interstate 108". Not necessarily a highway by that name, at least not near Albany, but... _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jan 4 11:51:59 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Jan 4 11:55:01 2005 Subject: Stations named after highways References: <14ED045C.156CED16.0CE337EB@aol.com> Message-ID: <000001c4f27e$22440260$19eefea9@satpro4600> Someone will surely provide a definitive answer to the question of when the Interstate Highway system opened, but my guess is that many parts of it existed by 1961. Whether I-91 near Amerst existed by 1961, I have no clue. Seems as though the Mass Turnpike, with the exception of the extension inside of Route 128, opened sometime around 1961. The extension opened a few years after the rest of the Pike. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:26 AM Subject: Stations named after highways > Reading all this talk about naming stations after highways, I just realized that I may have been a contributor to this concept. FORTY years ago when I was doing the "Afternoon A-Go-Go" show on UMass' WMUA in Amherst (91.1 FM), in my attempt to emulate the great Top 40 stations of the day (e.g. WDRC, Hartford), I used to call our station "RADIO 91". I even made jingles using that term. I won't get into the horrified looks on the "higher-ups'" faces as I was turning what was, up to then, an FM, college "educational" station, into a "Pseudo-Top 40, Personality-Type" station. > Reading this thread, I realized that "Radio 91" COULD have referred to nearby Interstate 91! Thus, am I the EARLIEST one to do this "highway naming"? > Did I invent the concept without even knowing it? I guess I FINALLY made my mark in radio history! :-) > WHOOPS! My wife just asked me if Route 91 (or the whole Interstate highway system) even existed back then! > Never mind. > -Sonny Daye > > = = = Original message = = = > > While it wasn't named after a road, WILI-FM/Willimantic, CT has used > the "I-98" moniker for almost 20 years. For most of their history, the > CHR station used the red and blue interstate-style sign with the > moniker in the center as their logo. They've used a different logo > over last few years however.... > > --Dave Tomm > "Mike Thomas > > On Jan 2, 2005, at 9:01 PM, Paul Anderson wrote: > > > > > On Jan 2, 2005, at 1:17 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > > > >> This and the recent flip in Worcester of 100.1 to "The Pike" is > >> making me wonder if it's now becoming a trend for "Classic Hits" > >> stations to image themselves for nearby highways... > > > > WRKI Brookfield CT has called themselves "I-95" for about 25 years > > now. They're not classic hits, but one of the first I ever heard of > > to name themselves after a road. > > From: "Rod O'Connor" > >To: "Eli Polonsky" > >Subject: Re: Format flips > >Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:02:48 GMT > > > > > "I-95" has been advertising in local newspapers for the past couple > > of weeks as "Bangor's Home for Classic Hits". The ad features an > > Interstate 95 highway shield logo. > > > There's also 93.3 WNHI "I-93" up in Belmont, NH which targets Laconia > and Concord. Of course they're right along Interstate 93, and they also > seem to have the "I" mean Imus. They're a classic rock station, and I > believe they've been around for about 10 years. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. > Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. From abruzzese@biochem.bumc.bu.edu Tue Jan 4 12:17:50 2005 From: abruzzese@biochem.bumc.bu.edu (Tony Abruzzese) Date: Tue Jan 4 12:17:55 2005 Subject: Stations named after highways In-Reply-To: <000001c4f27e$22440260$19eefea9@satpro4600> References: <14ED045C.156CED16.0CE337EB@aol.com> <000001c4f27e$22440260$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <41DACFBE.8050206@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> Dan Strassberg wrote: >Someone will surely provide a definitive answer to the question of when the >Interstate Highway system opened, but my guess is that many parts of it >existed by 1961. Whether I-91 near Amerst existed by 1961, I have no clue. >Seems as though the Mass Turnpike, with the exception of the extension >inside of Route 128, opened sometime around 1961. The extension opened a few >years after the rest of the Pike. > >-- > >Dan Strassberg >dan.strassberg@att.net >Fax: 1-707-215-6367 > > IIRC, the highway system is/was officially called the Eisenhower Interstate Highway System and originated in the 1950s. I seem to remember this tidbit coming up during a discussion a couple of years ago on the subject of traffic reports and highway signage/designation and the whole 128 N/S vs 93 N/S vs 95 N/S mess in Canton. Tony From sid@wrko.com Tue Jan 4 12:26:14 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue Jan 4 12:26:36 2005 Subject: Stations named after highways Message-ID: >>Seems as though the Mass Turnpike, with the exception of the extension inside of Route 128, opened sometime around 1961. The extension opened a few years after the rest of the Pike.<< The original 123 miles of the Pike, from the NY state line to Route 128, opened in 1956 (18 months ahead of schedule). The extension opened in 1964. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Jan 4 14:02:25 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue Jan 4 13:46:20 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050103201802.02c56a00@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: On 1/3/05 8:19 PM, "Donna Halper" wrote: > Anybody heard about plans to improve the night signal of WKOX or WXKS? I > can barely get them here in Quincy-- I don't know if other people on the > south shore are having problems with them too. I had heard a while back > that there were plans in the works to at least do something with WKOX's > signal, but not sure what happened to those plans... As others on this list have described, Clear Channel had FCC approval for a CP for WKOX to build a new five-tower array for a 50,000 watt transmitter at the present WUNR (1600) site, which is presently two towers at the end of the Oak Hill Park development in Newton that were originally built in the late 1940's at about the same time as the development itself (originally a community of ranch houses built for returning World War Two veterans). WUNR and also WRCA (1330) had CP's to move to this proposed five-tower array. However, the City Of Newton blocked the towers from being built due to opposition from the residents of Oak Hill Park, who allegedly claimed that audio from WUNR's 5,000 watts was already coming up from their toilet bowls (etc...), and were afraid of what 50,000 watts so nearby would do. However, Clear Channel allegedly had other programming plans for WKOX which would have hinged on having that 50,000 watt signal booming into Boston from Newton. Some have said that CC wanted WKOX to be their new conservative Boston talk station, and they planned to move shows that they produce and syndicate such as Rush Limbaugh from WRKO (which they don't own) to their own new powerful Boston 50kw right-wing talker, which would've been the new WKOX. When their plans to build the 50kw site in Oak Hill were stymied by Newton a couple of years ago, they decided to leave the previous brokered ethnic programming on WKOX's Framingham signal for the time being, since it was not powerful enough for their desires for the Boston talk station they wanted. Then last year, CC apparently decided that WKOX's Framingham signal could serve as a Metro-West complement for Air America to WXKS-AM's coastal Boston/Metro-North signal, so they flipped them both to it. Still, the both combined (especially at night) don't cover as much ground or penetrate downtown Boston as well as a good 50kw would. So, in the above scenario, it's possible that if CC had been able to build the 50kw site in Newton, WKOX might not be programming Air America at all. It may have ended up being the political antithesis, a powerful conservative right-wing talker running Rush Limbaugh and competing with WRKO. Eli Polonsky From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jan 4 14:50:00 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Jan 4 14:50:07 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal References: Message-ID: <000b01c4f296$97032b40$19eefea9@satpro4600> All true--except that, in the meantime, CCU discovered that progressive talk was an untapped market that might appeal to nearly half of talk-radio listeners. Instead of having to share the right-wing-talk market with as many as three competitors, the progressive-talk strategy puts CCU in total control of a potentially almost equally large market. (OK, in several markets, including Boston, NPR competes in progressive talk--except that, politically, NPR is moving rapidly to the right in an attempt to keep from having the Republican congress eliminate the ever-diminishing portion of NPR funding that comes from the government and to keep from antagonizing the predominaantly right-wing companies that underwrite NPR programming.) It's true that in most markets, including Boston, progressive talk appears on severely signal-challenged AMs. In several markets, however, CCU has put progressive talk on solid AM signals, the most successful of which is in Portland OR on AM 620, which I believe runs 20 kW-D/10 kW-N at a prime dial position. Other markets in which progressive talk is on prime full-market AM signals are Miami (940 50 kW-D/10 kW-N), Denver (760 50 kW-D/1 kW-N), San Francisco (960 5 kW-U), and Seattle (1090 50 kW-U). CCU owns an ideal candiate for progrssive talk in LA (570 5 kW-U), but AFAIK has not flipped it so far. In New York, the Air America affiliate is ICBC's WLIB (1190 10 kW-D/30 kW-N), which is not setting the world on fire but is holding its own against the killer signals of WABC and WOR. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eli Polonsky" To: "Donna Halper" ; Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Air America's night signal > > So, in the above scenario, it's possible that if CC had been able to > build the 50kw site in Newton, WKOX might not be programming Air > America at all. It may have ended up being the political antithesis, > a powerful conservative right-wing talker running Rush Limbaugh and > competing with WRKO. > > Eli Polonsky > From billo@shoreham.net Tue Jan 4 15:35:50 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue Jan 4 15:35:56 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal In-Reply-To: <000b01c4f296$97032b40$19eefea9@satpro4600> References: <000b01c4f296$97032b40$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <41DAFE26.9020103@shoreham.net> Dan Strassberg wrote: >Instead of having to share the right-wing-talk market with as >many as three competitors, the progressive-talk strategy puts CCU in total >control of a potentially almost equally large market. > I don't think it's dollars-to-donuts when comparing a conservative listener pool to a progressive one. Liberals tend to skew younger with a demo that is supported by a full-range of media (music, entertainment, Internet, XM, MP3). If you buy the notion that conservatives lean older, then, by virtue of that age-demo, there is a greater likelihood that conservative talk (AM or FM) would be considered time well-spent. There are indications that, like country listeners who are considered more conservative and very loyal, conservative talk has a strong brand loyalty. While larger markets should be a good fit for progressive talk, they would need to be ready to share that demo with non-talk options. Bill O'Neill Happy Gnu Year From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Jan 4 16:55:37 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Jan 4 16:55:51 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal Message-ID: <20050104215537.9DDAEE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Scott Fybush" >To: bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: RE: Air America's night signal >Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:51:03 -0500 > > As for 1430, the Endicott facility is a barn-burner. I was just > there a few weeks ago visiting the TX site. They've got a new BE > AM6A transmitter there that gets out well, and the night pattern is > a five-tower in-line teardrop that blasts to the northeast (maximum > lobe field strength is 1887 mV/m at 1 km, quite impressive for a 5 > kW station.) And did I mention that it's up on a hill, so the array > really launches that skywave towards Boston? > Right at this minute, about 20 minutes after local sunset in January, skywave is very subdued and WXKS is audible 25 miles north of Wellington Circle. A few weeks ago, due to a solar hiccup, there was little difference between day and night (one person posted to the New York city radio board that he could pick up Stamford's outlet at 1400 in the City!) and during that period, I could listen to WXKS-AM easily in my home; even WJIB-am at 5 watts was at least as audible as it would be during the day if the station's switcher failed to boost to 250 watts at sunrise. So it appears that WXKS-AM is legally putting out the equivalent of several hundred watts, or even a kilo due north, NW and NNE... yet it is still clobbered by WENE. In the morning, when I'm on route 128 north of Boston, I can pick up the two Marks AND Imus on WENE simultaneously! It's amazing that even Everett gets sufficient quieting! -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jan 4 18:05:14 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Jan 4 18:05:29 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal References: <20050104215537.9DDAEE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <001601c4f2b1$e0627aa0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> WXKS's night signal is equivalent to 3 kW at an azimuth of 54 (arc) degrees, which is the center azimuth of the pattern--that is, the azimuth of a line between the two towers. At zero degrees (due north), the signal is equivalent to 2 kW. Those equivalent-power values assume that you use WXKS's pattern RMS of 319.7 mV/m/kW @ 1 km as the radiation produced by the actual antenna-input power of 1 kW. Another means of reckoning the equivalent power normalizes to an RMS of 281.7 mV/m/kW @ 1km, which is the RMS inverse-distance field from a minimum-efficiency radiator for a Class B station. (Such a radiator would be approximately 56 electrical degrees high, whereas WXKS's towers are taller than 100 electrical degrees.) If you use the lower figure for the 1 kW-equivalent signal, you get higher equivalent powers of about 3.75 kW at 54 (arc) degrees and 2.55 kW at zero (arc) degrees. I don't know what WXKS's NIF (nighttime interference-free) contour is. My guess is that it's in the neighborhood of 50 mV/m. Fortunately, the short distance between 99 Revere Beach Parkway and the nearest points of land in Everett is covered by salt water, so you can use the inverse-distance rule to compute the signal strength at the water's edge in Everett. I'd be surprised if that distance were more than 500' (1/6 km) at the closest point. So WKXS probably puts a nighttime signal of about 2V/m over the closest point of land in Everett. From there, the signal strength drops off at something between the square and the cube of the ratio of the distance to 1/6 km. I calculate therefore, that the NIF contour lies approximately 2.5 miles to the northeast. I suspect that nearly all of Everett lies within the NIF contour. But the signal should be quite listenable at distances at least twice as great and maybe even further. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Scott Fybush" ; Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:55 PM Subject: RE: Air America's night signal > >From: "Scott Fybush" > >To: bri@bostonradio.org > >Subject: RE: Air America's night signal > >Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:51:03 -0500 > > > > > As for 1430, the Endicott facility is a barn-burner. I was just > > there a few weeks ago visiting the TX site. They've got a new BE > > AM6A transmitter there that gets out well, and the night pattern is > > a five-tower in-line teardrop that blasts to the northeast (maximum > > lobe field strength is 1887 mV/m at 1 km, quite impressive for a 5 > > kW station.) And did I mention that it's up on a hill, so the array > > really launches that skywave towards Boston? > > > Right at this minute, about 20 minutes after local sunset in > January, skywave is very subdued and WXKS is audible 25 miles > north of Wellington Circle. A few weeks ago, due to a solar hiccup, there > was little difference between day and night (one person posted to > the New York city radio board that he could pick up Stamford's > outlet at 1400 in the City!) and during that period, I could listen > to WXKS-AM easily in my home; even WJIB-am at 5 watts was > at least as audible as it would be during the day if the station's > switcher failed to boost to 250 watts at sunrise. So it > appears that WXKS-AM is legally putting out the equivalent of > several hundred watts, or even a kilo due north, NW and NNE... > yet it is still clobbered by WENE. In the morning, when I'm on > route 128 north of Boston, I can pick up the two Marks AND > Imus on WENE simultaneously! It's amazing that even Everett > gets sufficient quieting! > -- > _______________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 > > From jtanderton@clearchannel.com Tue Jan 4 10:37:57 2005 From: jtanderton@clearchannel.com (Anderton, J T) Date: Tue Jan 4 18:15:32 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal Message-ID: Scott invited me to join this thread with details on WXKS's nighttime situation. The NIF for WXKS is 41.879. WENE's contribution would limit WXKS to 29.794 mVm. It radiates approximately 15-kw toward Boston at night. WNSW Newark would limit WXKS to 29.431. It radiates approximately 8,750 watts toward Boston. The next three contibutors to WXKS's NIF are CKYC Toronto, at 4.546; WVAM Altoona at 2.511 and WXNT Indianapolis at 1.166. Since WENE and WNSW each contribute about the same amount of interference, and since both are far more than half (or even a quarter) of the next contributor, to take away WENE would still leave the NIF in Boston at 29.431. Unless WNSW could somehow be modified to suppress signal toward Boston (highly unlikely since Boston and NYC are in the same general direction from their towers), WXKS would still have a very high NIF. J T Anderton -----Original Message----- From: Garrett Wollman [mailto:wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 10:29 PM To: Jeff Lehmann Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: RE: Air America's night signal < said: > 1430 is mostly Newark/New York with WENE Binghamton in at times. 1430's NIF is really horrible -- I don't remember the number, nor do I have permission to publish it if I did, but it gets absolutely *creamed* by Endicott at night. (Sort of similar to what Troy does to WCAP, only worse.) I've heard both Endicott and Newark here, as well as Toronto. (Obviously I've not heard anything on 1200 other than WKOX, since they're about two air miles away from me. If for some reason they went off, I expect I'd hear Syracuse, poorly, and WLIB quite well.) -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jan 4 18:19:17 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Jan 4 18:19:27 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal References: <000b01c4f296$97032b40$19eefea9@satpro4600> <41DAFE26.9020103@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <002801c4f2b3$d50419a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Well, Bill, regardless of what you think, I've heard that one of the biggest attractions of progressive talk to advertisers is the high TSL, which allegedly is several times the TSL of other formats, including right-wing talk. Yes, the progressive-talk audience skews younger than the right-wing talk audience. The youger demo adds further advertiser appeal to the progressive-talk format. I would not be surprised if the median age of right-wing-talk listeners is close to 55--the age at which time buyers (most of whom are under 25) KNOW that people simply stop buying anything--but surprisingly, fail to immediately die. I suspect that the average age of progressive-talk listeners is as much as two decades younger. But there IS a large contingent of us who are well past 55. (Don't breathe a word of it, but we also still shop and spend--and I bet that's true of the righties also.) -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Dan Strassberg" Cc: "Eli Polonsky" ; "Donna Halper" ; Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:35 PM Subject: Re: Air America's night signal > Dan Strassberg wrote: > > >Instead of having to share the right-wing-talk market with as > >many as three competitors, the progressive-talk strategy puts CCU in total > >control of a potentially almost equally large market. > > > I don't think it's dollars-to-donuts when comparing a conservative > listener pool to a progressive one. Liberals tend to skew younger with > a demo that is supported by a full-range of media (music, entertainment, > Internet, XM, MP3). If you buy the notion that conservatives lean > older, then, by virtue of that age-demo, there is a greater likelihood > that conservative talk (AM or FM) would be considered time well-spent. > There are indications that, like country listeners who are considered > more conservative and very loyal, conservative talk has a strong brand > loyalty. While larger markets should be a good fit for progressive > talk, they would need to be ready to share that demo with non-talk options. > > Bill O'Neill > Happy Gnu Year From billo@shoreham.net Tue Jan 4 20:56:21 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue Jan 4 20:56:34 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal In-Reply-To: <002801c4f2b3$d50419a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <000b01c4f296$97032b40$19eefea9@satpro4600> <41DAFE26.9020103@shoreham.net> <002801c4f2b3$d50419a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <41DB4945.3000608@shoreham.net> Dan Strassberg wrote: >Well, Bill, regardless of what you think, > You call that 'thinking?' Aw, shucks, Dan. >I've heard that one of the biggest >attractions of progressive talk to advertisers is the high TSL, which >allegedly is several times the TSL of other formats, including right-wing >talk. > Definitely something to keep an eye on. Do we know if there is any correlation between the TSL and the numbers? Bill (still purchasing after all these years) O'Neill From scott@fybush.com Tue Jan 4 21:19:36 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Jan 4 21:19:41 2005 Subject: New calls for 700 Orange MA Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050104211815.0212c2a0@gwind.pair.com> This evening's change report from my friends at M Street says they've dropped their calls of WCAT (the only ones they've ever had, right?) to become WJOE. How that fits with the leased-time "Radio Adonai" Spanish religion they've been running, I do not know. Mr. Wollman is no doubt waiting with baited breath for a similar call change down the road in Gardner... s From mlaurence@mindspring.com Tue Jan 4 21:45:21 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Tue Jan 4 21:45:31 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal In-Reply-To: <41DB4945.3000608@shoreham.net> References: <000b01c4f296$97032b40$19eefea9@satpro4600> <41DAFE26.9020103@shoreham.net> <002801c4f2b3$d50419a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <41DB4945.3000608@shoreham.net> Message-ID: On Jan 4, 2005, at 8:56 PM, Bill O'Neill wrote: > > Definitely something to keep an eye on. Do we know if there is any > correlation between the TSL and the numbers? TSL is a good way of measuring audience satisfaction and commitment. Air America's TSL was unbelievably high in its first extrapolated month. It was 3 or 4 times the level of other stations in the metro, number 1 or 2 in most dayparts. If the station can attract a bigger cume of people with the same kind of satisfaction, their numbers will go through the roof. But sometimes the cume is limited. High TSL often goes to foreign language, religious, and niche format stations with a small but very dedicated audience. The big question for Air America is, will liberals and other interested political junkies continue to tune in with the passion they showed in the first month? And, what is the potential cume for the stations? Mark From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Jan 4 22:35:23 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue Jan 4 22:36:16 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050104223517.02d0b7a0@pop.registeredsite.com> Mark asked-- >The big question for Air America is, will liberals and other interested >political junkies continue to tune in with the passion they showed in the >first month? Only if they can hear the station so that they can make an informed decision about whether they like it or not. Unfortuntely, after sundown, many of us cannot hear the station, as I discussed earlier. The ratings that get published are usually the simple 12+ numbers, with no mention that in some cities, the signal Air America got stuck with is so tiny that just about nobody can receive it, while in other cities, it's dominant and powerful. SO even when ratings come out, they may not tell the whole story for a while. The fact is that playing field is still not level, with conservative stations much more able to get their message out. So many markets are still one-sided in their presentations of opinion, and it will be interesting to see if Air America (and Jones, which syndicates Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller) are able to get onto some big signal stations-- then we will get a better idea if there is a market for that other point of view. Meanwhile, I notice that some shows on AA seem more confident and more professional, and a lot more entertaining than they did six months ago. Getting the point across is one thing-- doing it in an interesting and entertaining manner is equally crucial if AA is to survive. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Jan 5 00:32:34 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Jan 5 00:33:54 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <41DB35A2.2162.536A54@localhost> What does NIF mean? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Jan 5 03:07:59 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Jan 5 03:08:16 2005 Subject: New calls for 700 Orange MA Message-ID: <20050105080759.342B43992@mprdmxin.myway.com> --- On Tue 01/04, Scott Fybush < scott@fybush.com > wrote: >>they've dropped their calls of WCAT (the only ones they've ever had, right?) to become WJOE. We've had "Bob", "Alice", and "Jack"--could this be the sign of a new "Joe" format? :) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From stevewest106@hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 05:22:32 2005 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Wed Jan 5 05:23:55 2005 Subject: New calls for 700 Orange MA In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.0.20050104211815.0212c2a0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: Actually, it's not the only calls they ever had. For a time in the late 80s, 700 had the WPNS calls (for P&S Broadcasting). Ownership reverted them back to WCAT because people started calling it .... welll, you know. :) Prior to that, WCAT was on 1390. Ordinarilly, I'd pine about history being thrown away, but in this case I'm not sure there's much heritage to call upon. It was a good sounding local station until about 1984, although most of any semblence of a staff was reduced to two, and a part timer in 1982, and satellite service installed in 1984 (SMN). The last couple of years it's been Hispanic Christian, since they returned to the air just in time to avoid deletion after the new tower was installed. Embarassingly enough, I have an aircheck of me doing morning drive in 1983 there. It's awful - can't believe I kept it hehe. As Hendrix sang... "Hey Joe.... > >This evening's change report from my friends at M Street says they've >dropped their calls of WCAT (the only ones they've ever had, right?) to >become WJOE. How that fits with the leased-time "Radio Adonai" Spanish >religion they've been running, I do not know. > >Mr. Wollman is no doubt waiting with baited breath for a similar call >change down the road in Gardner... > >s > From stevewest106@hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 05:28:39 2005 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Wed Jan 5 05:29:18 2005 Subject: New calls for 700 Orange MA In-Reply-To: <20050105080759.342B43992@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: >We've had "Bob", "Alice", and "Jack"--could this be the sign of >a new "Joe" format? :) I rather doubt much of anything they could change to would be a success. With WJDF having all the local support, 700 is pretty much dead in the water unless 700 can actually serve the community somehow. I don't even know if they are making money with Radio Adoni, although on a visit to the station a year ago, I was told that the shows were all paid for by those on the air - just like most religious stations, and that it was at least breaking even. I doubt they will change, but have no idea why the callsign flip. From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Jan 5 07:00:30 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Jan 5 07:00:41 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal References: <41DB35A2.2162.536A54@localhost> Message-ID: <001601c4f31e$2c311880$19eefea9@dstrassberg> NIF = Nighttime interference free. As best I've been able to determine, the NIF contour is figured as follows: Take the RSS (root-sum-squared, which means square root of the sum of the squares) of the co-channel 10% skywaves (a station's 10% skywave is the field intensity that its nighttime skywave signal exceeds at a specified location at least 10% of the time), then drop out all of the interfering signals that are less than 25% of the largest 10% skywave (because, when you sum the squares of a goup of numbers, the quantities that are less than 1/4 of the largest number each become less than 1/16 of the largest square). The result is the 25%-exclusion 10% RSS. Next, increase this value by 12 dB (dB = decibels--a logarithmic measure of ratios). If you're measuring volts--as in this case--12 dB = a ratio of 4:1. Next you repeat this excercise for both of the first-adjacent-channel 10% skywaves, except that you increase the resulting numbers by not by 12 dB but by 6 dB--a factor of 2. To finally get the NIF, you take the largest of the three numbers (co channel and both first-adjacent channel 25%-exclusion RSSes). Now if you are figuring the NIF of a station in certain-other Western Hemisphere countries (Canada, for instance), you use the 50%-exclusion 10% RSS instead of the 25%-exclusion value to calculate the co-channel RSS. I don't know which exclusion you use on the first-adjacent-channel values. Why 50% instead of 25%? Because the calculations are defined that way in treaties with the various countries. Oh, until sometime in the 80s, the NIF calaculation involved only the co-channel interfering signals, but, in fact, even without HD Radio, the interference from first-adjacent stations can be quite annoying. Perhaps the best example is WWZN/ Both WWKB and WTOP deliver very strong signals to this area. Most likely, WWZN's NIF is determined by one of these stations and not by co-channel stations. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:32 AM Subject: RE: Air America's night signal > What does NIF mean? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Jan 5 07:18:56 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed Jan 5 07:19:01 2005 Subject: New calls for 700 Orange MA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <008701c4f320$bab78970$6400a8c0@n1zzn> Didn't WCAT drop the leased Spanish format once they were bought by Northeast Broadcasting? I know they were simulcasting an English format with WGAW for about a year. Have they gone back to a foreign language format? Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Steve West Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:29 AM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: RE: New calls for 700 Orange MA >We've had "Bob", "Alice", and "Jack"--could this be the sign of >a new "Joe" format? :) I rather doubt much of anything they could change to would be a success. With WJDF having all the local support, 700 is pretty much dead in the water unless 700 can actually serve the community somehow. I don't even know if they are making money with Radio Adoni, although on a visit to the station a year ago, I was told that the shows were all paid for by those on the air - just like most religious stations, and that it was at least breaking even. I doubt they will change, but have no idea why the callsign flip. From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Jan 5 07:39:50 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Jan 5 07:40:04 2005 Subject: New calls for 700 Orange MA References: Message-ID: <002f01c4f323$adab34e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> A good guess about the significance of WJOE is Jesus on Earth. Also, do you know where the WCAT calls resided before they arrived in Orange? Rapid City SD (1230, I think). This was a very old west-of-the-Mississippi station with sequentially assigned W calls (a la WBAP and WFAA). -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve West" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:22 AM Subject: RE: New calls for 700 Orange MA > Actually, it's not the only calls they ever had. For a time in the late > 80s, 700 had the WPNS calls (for P&S Broadcasting). Ownership reverted them > back to WCAT because people started calling it .... welll, you know. :) > > Prior to that, WCAT was on 1390. Ordinarilly, I'd pine about history being > thrown away, but in this case I'm not sure there's much heritage to call > upon. It was a good sounding local station until about 1984, although most > of any semblence of a staff was reduced to two, and a part timer in 1982, > and satellite service installed in 1984 (SMN). The last couple of years > it's been Hispanic Christian, since they returned to the air just in time to > avoid deletion after the new tower was installed. > > Embarassingly enough, I have an aircheck of me doing morning drive in 1983 > there. It's awful - can't believe I kept it hehe. > > As Hendrix sang... "Hey Joe.... > > > > >This evening's change report from my friends at M Street says they've > >dropped their calls of WCAT (the only ones they've ever had, right?) to > >become WJOE. How that fits with the leased-time "Radio Adonai" Spanish > >religion they've been running, I do not know. > > > >Mr. Wollman is no doubt waiting with baited breath for a similar call > >change down the road in Gardner... > > > >s > > > > From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Wed Jan 5 09:47:30 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Wed Jan 5 09:47:35 2005 Subject: New calls for 700 Orange MA Message-ID: <200501050947.AA2826698908@mail.ttlc.net> "Dan Strassberg" noted: >A good guess about the significance of WJOE is Jesus on Earth. It's quite possible that a "Cat Country" station wanted the calls and paid BIG BUCKS. From scott@fybush.com Wed Jan 5 10:57:26 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Jan 5 10:57:31 2005 Subject: New calls for 700 Orange MA In-Reply-To: <200501050947.AA2826698908@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200501050947.AA2826698908@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050105105014.020dd810@gwind.pair.com> At 09:47 AM 1/5/2005, rogerkirk wrote: >"Dan Strassberg" noted: > >A good guess about the significance of WJOE is Jesus on Earth. > >It's quite possible that a "Cat Country" station wanted the >calls and paid BIG BUCKS. Already done. Remember that Citadel, after buying WCAT 700 and WCAT-FM 99.9, did a call swap in 2002 (2003?) that moved the WCAT-FM calls to its "Cat Country 106.7" in Hershey PA, ex-WRKZ. 99.9 became WAHL (a call I don't have on tape!) and later WNYN under Silberberg's ownership. The WCAT-FM calls subsequently moved from 106.7 Hershey to 102.3 Carlisle PA (which had also inherited the WRKZ calls when they moved off 106.7). 102.3 isn't "Cat Country" but "Red Country," but no matter...Citadel holds the calls there. And that may explain why they're now off 700: the rules say whoever had the base call *first* decides who else can use it on other services. But that goes by station (facility ID #) and not by ownership. So WCAT(AM), which had had those calls since changing back from the ill-advised WPNS in the early eighties, could control the disposition of the WCAT-FM calls if Citadel ever decided to move them from Carlisle. I wonder if keeping control of the calls mightn't even have been in the sale contract for WCAT/WAHL to Silberberg? One other note - a couple of Corus' Canadian stations (96.3 CFMK Kingston ON, in particular) have indeed become "Joe FM," a knockoff of "Jack."! From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Jan 5 13:05:03 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed Jan 5 13:05:45 2005 Subject: New calls for 700 Orange MA In-Reply-To: <002f01c4f323$adab34e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050105130131.02b4ded0@pop.registeredsite.com> At 07:39 AM 1/5/2005 -0500, you wrote: >A good guess about the significance of WJOE is Jesus on Earth. Also, do you >know where the WCAT calls resided before they arrived in Orange? Rapid City >SD (1230, I think). This was a very old west-of-the-Mississippi station with >sequentially assigned W calls (a la WBAP and WFAA). Dan recalls correctly. I used to consult a station in Rapid City and had the opportunity to research the WCAT calls, which go back to May of 1922 (actually they go back under ham radio calls even earlier); they originally belonged to an engineering and mining college (among whose faculty was a rare-- for those days-- woman engineer). From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Jan 5 18:15:11 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Jan 5 18:15:20 2005 Subject: Chuck Harder Out At WCAP-AM Message-ID: <20050105231511.3BA9C3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> I was perambulating across the AM dial yesterday afternoon, and noticed that Chuck Harder's "For the People Who Believe in Black Helicopters" was no longer on WCAP-AM, Loal (I spell it that way because the City once had a promotional spot that used the slogan "there's a lot to like about Loal"). In its place was what seemed to be a tape-delayed version of Dr. Joy Brown's show. A visit to wcap.net indicated that the Chuck Harder Show is still listed as being on from 2:00 untill 4:00 pm. Maybe some denizens of the Spindle city can report on what's happening in time for Sunday's "LTAR" (unless it's already on tape). -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From n1qgs@yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 18:29:58 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed Jan 5 18:30:02 2005 Subject: Non Broadcast RADIO question - How the pros use scanners and 2-way radios Message-ID: <20050105232958.27988.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> I was wondering what the professional news reporters, traffic reports, videogrpahers and photographers use a far as radio scanners and two-way radio communications, today and in the past. Does your experience vary from working for a major media outlet vs a mom and pop concern? I can remember when I worked for the Nashua Telegraph, one of the photographers had a stack of crystal scanners mounted in a specially designed bracket he would bring in and out of the newsroom to and from his vehicle. I also have stories of oldtimes having a huge old tube-style radio sets with a frequency converter and power converter weighing down and warming up the back of their station wagons getting ready to go to the next big fire. John B Derry NH From markwats@comcast.net Wed Jan 5 18:30:24 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Wed Jan 5 18:30:38 2005 Subject: Chuck Harder Out At WCAP-AM References: <20050105231511.3BA9C3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <009801c4f37e$8a7fd9c0$6f918318@Mark> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 6:15 PM Subject: Chuck Harder Out At WCAP-AM Laurence Glavin wrote: >I was perambulating across the AM dial yesterday afternoon, and > noticed that Chuck Harder's "For the People Who Believe in Black > Helicopters" was no longer on WCAP-AM, Loal (I spell it that way > because the City once had a promotional spot that used the slogan > "there's a lot to like about Loal"). At the beginning of Monday's "Afternoon Live" show, Ryan Johnston told listeners that over the New Years's weekend, the network that fed Chuck Harder "ceased to exist" and apparently told none of their affilaites. I don't know if Chuck Harder will find a new network home, but apparently he's not in WCAP's future. They are filling with best of Dr. Joy Browne shows for the rest of the week, starting Monday (1/10) "Afternoon Live" will air from 3 to 6 PM, with Michael Savage running 6 to 9 PM. Tom Martino runs 12 Noon to 2 PM, maybe an extra hour of Martino to fill till 3 ?? Did Chuck Harder's network really "cease to exist" ? Or did something else happen? Mark Watson From billo@shoreham.net Wed Jan 5 19:42:02 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Jan 5 19:42:04 2005 Subject: Chuck Harder Out At WCAP-AM In-Reply-To: <20050105231511.3BA9C3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050105231511.3BA9C3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <41DC895A.4000202@shoreham.net> Laurence Glavin wrote: >A visit to >wcap.net indicated that the Chuck Harder Show is still listed >as being on from 2:00 untill 4:00 pm. Maybe some denizens >of the Spindle city can report on what's happening in time >for Sunday's "LTAR" (unless it's already on tape). > > I'll leave that to Gary but wcap.net will be updated after the next pot of coffee is brewed. Bill O'Neill From n1qgs@yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 20:00:04 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed Jan 5 20:00:09 2005 Subject: Chuck Harder Out At WCAP-AM In-Reply-To: <41DC895A.4000202@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <20050106010004.45877.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> Doesn't the Chuck Harder show originate from Liberty Radio Network, or something like that. They also have Bruce Williams and some other moderately known names. Are these folks still on the air (other stations perhaps?) John B Derry NH From rickkelly@gmail.com Wed Jan 5 20:49:10 2005 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Wed Jan 5 20:49:22 2005 Subject: Format flips In-Reply-To: <003601c4f1e5$f1a34370$6400a8c0@n1zzn> References: <003601c4f1e5$f1a34370$6400a8c0@n1zzn> Message-ID: <521b7fd10501051749703feefd@mail.gmail.com> Not a format flip, but WNNZ Westfield MA, which had been carrying Infinity program "Imus in the Morning" for a number of years is now running ESPN Radio "Mike and Mike" in the AM. WNNZ's All-Sports format continues. -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From radiotony@comcast.net Wed Jan 5 21:17:48 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Wed Jan 5 21:18:17 2005 Subject: More kinda format flips ... Message-ID: <01ae01c4f395$f4b5ac40$6400a8c0@tony> Over at WKXL 1450 AM in Concord, NH, we have dumped Dr. Laura in place of a new A&E show that I host along with two hours of local news. We have also dropped Jim Rome and in his place, are now airing a new local talk show, NH Now, with Gardner Hill, and five talk shows on various subjects with various hosts. We will soon be dropping Laura Ingraham and replacing it with a health show and other local programs. It is a very exciting time to be in radio right now. :-) Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net WKXL News 1450 Concord, NH http://politizine.blogspot.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed Jan 5 23:27:02 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed Jan 5 23:27:08 2005 Subject: FW: A Letter From The Program Director Of Love FM (WZMR Albany NY) - The Death of Smooth Jazz in the Capitol District Message-ID: <00a101c4f3a7$f9018190$640fa8c0@elara> Well here's the death of the Smooth Jazz format in the Albany market. At least it held out longer than Boston. I get a kick out of the comment about nobody becoming unemployed. What they didn't say was that the station was entirely voice tracked with talent from other properties. It explains why no one was going to be unemployed. I think that the final straw was that they bastardized the format from a straight Smooth Jazz to a syrupy AC format. Oh well, at least I still have XM... Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 +1-978-538-7575 Voice +1-978-538-7550 Fax www.cssinc.com -----Original Message----- From: lovefmmail@yahoo.com [mailto:lovefmmail@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:55 PM To: brian_vita@cssinc.com Subject: A Letter From The Program Director Of Love FM Dear Brian, To our loyal listners: We would like to thank you for the four plus years you???ve been with WZMR as the exclusive outlet for Smooth Jazz in the Capital Region. Unfortunately, in the radio industry???s increasingly competitive environment, WZMR was not achieving the success needed for it to survive in the spirited business world we live in. In the latest Arbitron trend, WZMR ranked 17 out of 21 radio stations serving the Capital Region. Still, the dedication and time you have spent listening to 104.9 is so greatly appreciated. The support just wasn???t enough to sustain the format in both ratings and backing of our advertisers that is needed to be a commercial radio operator. Over the four years we???ve spent together we???ve done our very best to provide Smooth Jazz programming that would appeal to you (the enthusiast) and the mainstream and again we truly appreciate your support. Over the time you have spent with the station you may have gotten to know the people on the station that brought you the programming and may wonder what is to become of them. I am pleased to announce that all talent on the station have been offered positions with our company as it is a terrible time to be unemployed. For instance Julie Feiner will segue to our sister station WFLY for morning drive news duties and Don Widman will move to sister station WYJB as on air-talent. We encourage you to contact radio stations like WVCR and WRPI, both of which could greatly benefit by embracing Smooth Jazz and gain you as a dedicated, loyal listener. Radio stations like those mentioned above are not saddled with the same challenges as those on the commercial band and could sustain the format. I, like you would love to see the format offered again in the Capital Region. It was a great 4 years! Sincerely, Kevin Callahan ??? Program Director 104.9 WZMR From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed Jan 5 23:56:18 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed Jan 5 23:56:25 2005 Subject: New calls for 700 Orange MA In-Reply-To: <002f01c4f323$adab34e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <00b601c4f3ac$0fac4890$640fa8c0@elara> > Actually, it's not the only calls they ever had. For a time in the late > 80s, 700 had the WPNS calls (for P&S Broadcasting). Ownership reverted them > back to WCAT because people started calling it .... welll, you know. :) > [Brian Vita] "While your driving your car, we're riding the PNS". [Brian Vita] [Brian Vita] Gee, can I produce the positioner? Brian Vita From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Jan 6 01:31:57 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Jan 6 01:33:01 2005 Subject: Air America's night signal In-Reply-To: <001601c4f31e$2c311880$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <41DC950D.19705.68C92D@localhost> On 5 Jan 2005 at 7:00, Dan Strassberg wrote: > NIF = Nighttime interference free. As best I've been able to > determine, the NIF contour is figured as follows: Thanks. Unfortunately, after this point in your reply, you lost me. But at least I get the idea. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From tklaundry@juno.com Thu Jan 6 11:39:33 2005 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Thu Jan 6 11:41:16 2005 Subject: Chuck Harder Out at WCAP Message-ID: <20050106.113933.1288.0.tklaundry@juno.com> Could be he ran out of money. His website http://www.chuckharder.com/ says he has stopped broadcasting on shortwave because of lack of funds, and the website hasn't been updated since October. DF From mimacdonald@myrealbox.com Wed Jan 5 12:55:56 2005 From: mimacdonald@myrealbox.com (Marie I. MacDonald) Date: Thu Jan 6 12:30:03 2005 Subject: New calls for 700 Orange MA In-Reply-To: <200501051700.j05H02d7089686@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200501051700.j05H02d7089686@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <41DC2A2C.4080800@myrealbox.com> Hello. I'm new to this list. I live in Athol, Mass. Who owns this station you are discussing in Orange? One of the writers in this thread mentioned finding a community purpose for the station. I think this is a good idea. I'd be curious to know a bit of this history of the station. Thanks! Marie From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Jan 6 12:33:27 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu Jan 6 12:33:45 2005 Subject: Chuck Harder Out at WCAP References: <20050106.113933.1288.0.tklaundry@juno.com> Message-ID: <000e01c4f415$dc3703a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> He owns a small radio station outside of Orlando, FL, I think. It is or was licensed to Bithlo. I say "is or was" because I think I recall a CP to change the COL. Somehow, though, the name Bithlo is odd enough that I seem to remember it. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Faneuf" To: Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: Chuck Harder Out at WCAP > Could be he ran out of money. His website http://www.chuckharder.com/ > says he has stopped broadcasting on shortwave because of lack of funds, > and the website hasn't been updated since October. > DF From sven@gordsven.com Thu Jan 6 13:03:47 2005 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu Jan 6 13:03:54 2005 Subject: Chuck Harder Out at WCAP In-Reply-To: <000e01c4f415$dc3703a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20050106.113933.1288.0.tklaundry@juno.com> <000e01c4f415$dc3703a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Dan Strassberg wrote: > He owns a small radio station outside of Orlando, FL, I think. It is or was > licensed to Bithlo. I say "is or was" because I think I recall a CP to There is a station licenced to Bithlo, Fla. It's WNTF AM 1580. I don't know the format, but it's listed as doing something in Spanish (on Radio-Locator.com). http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/info?call=WNTF&service=AM -- stephanie weil new york From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Jan 6 13:44:31 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu Jan 6 13:45:07 2005 Subject: Chuck Harder Out at WCAP In-Reply-To: References: <000e01c4f415$dc3703a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <20050106.113933.1288.0.tklaundry@juno.com> <000e01c4f415$dc3703a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050106134017.02994b78@pop.registeredsite.com> At 01:03 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Dan Strassberg wrote: > > > He owns a small radio station outside of Orlando, FL, I think. It is or was > > licensed to Bithlo. I say "is or was" because I think I recall a CP [snip] Yeah, in the Clinton years, Harder got written up a lot for his more bizarre claims, such as that Hillary Clinton was secretly having hospitals implant computer chips in us so that we could be tracked more easily, which said Harder was all.part of the Clintons' secret desire for a One World Government...I've got some tapes of Harder that made me really shake my head and wonder if freedom of speech is such a good idea after all... :) Harder also believes in various conspiracy theories, some weird and some pernicious-- including how Clinton allegedly 'disposed of' (as in killed) his enemies... I can't say I am sorry he's no longer on WCAP-- I support my friends on the right in believing whatever they wanna believe, but Harder skated perilously close to slander on many occasions. From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Jan 6 14:32:39 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu Jan 6 14:33:15 2005 Subject: Walmart and freedom of the press Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050106142932.02abf138@pop.registeredsite.com> I know most of us are in radio, but I thought I'd ask those of you who also do some TV or print. The other day, a mentally ill guy basically stripped naked in a Walmart parking lot in Maryland. A local news photographer for the newspaper was in the area doing other stuff but when he saw the scene, he snapped a picture (very tasteful, nothing obscene). But Walmart tried to confiscate his camera, citing a policy that no pictures can be taken on Walmart property without permission-- not even pictures of breaking news. All pictures must be approved in advance-- here is their stated policy. Does this make sense to anyone? Unless newspeople are psychic, how are they supposed to do their jobs? Wal-Mart's photo policy Wal-Mart's policy that all photos taken on its property must be approved in advance includes breaking news coverage, company spokeswoman Christi Gallagher said. The company requires the media - or anyone else - to get approval before taking pictures in Wal-Mart stores or on Wal-Mart property, she said. Asked if journalists photographing unexpected news, such as a fire, need the same permission, Gallagher said they do. After hours, a journalist should call the company's 24-hour corporate hotline before taking pictures, she said. From billo@shoreham.net Thu Jan 6 15:14:32 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Jan 6 15:14:32 2005 Subject: Walmart and freedom of the press In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050106142932.02abf138@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050106142932.02abf138@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <41DD9C28.7010406@shoreham.net> Donna Halper wrote: > Asked if journalists photographing unexpected news, such as a fire, > need the same permission, Gallagher said they do. > > After hours, a journalist should call the company's 24-hour corporate > hotline before taking pictures, she said. Plus, all would-be criminals need to register with Wal-Mart at least 72 hours in advance of executing the malfeasance. Who can blame them? We're all angry that we didn't come up with the handy hotline idea first. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Thu Jan 6 15:18:52 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Jan 6 15:18:52 2005 Subject: Chuck Harder Out at WCAP In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050106134017.02994b78@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <000e01c4f415$dc3703a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <20050106.113933.1288.0.tklaundry@juno.com> <000e01c4f415$dc3703a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <5.1.0.14.2.20050106134017.02994b78@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <41DD9D2C.1020702@shoreham.net> Donna Halper wrote: > I can't say I am sorry he's no longer on WCAP-- I support my friends > on the right in believing whatever they wanna believe, but Harder > skated perilously close to slander on many occasions. > I don't even know how far right Harder is. He seems bi-polar in his extremes. His conspiracies also target big-business-anti-little-guy (no pun intended.) Guy's had a lot of medical problems over the years; he has played up his disabilities (photos on website in leg braces in wheelchair, etc.) while seeking funds for his 501(c)3 forthepeople.org. Bill O'Neill From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Jan 6 15:25:37 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Jan 6 15:25:41 2005 Subject: Walmart and freedom of the press In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050106142932.02abf138@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050106142932.02abf138@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <3064389.1105043137924.JavaMail.kc1ih@mac.com> On Thursday, January 06, 2005, at 02:39PM, Donna Halper wrote: > >Wal-Mart's photo policy > >Wal-Mart's policy that all photos taken on its property must be approved in >advance includes breaking news coverage, company spokeswoman Christi >Gallagher said. This one may be better answered by a lawyer, but I'll take a stab at it. Company policy is just that, policy, and cannot override the law. Thus if the law allows it, that's that. Just because it's private property doesn't mean the law doesn't apply, in my understanding. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 15:36:45 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu Jan 6 15:36:50 2005 Subject: Walmart and freedom of the press In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050106142932.02abf138@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <20050106203645.74283.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> This past September at the Wal-Mart in Derry NH they had a Race Car promotion for a car the were sponsoring at the NH Inter'l Speedway. I took about a dozen photos of the display. While I was at it took about five or six photos of the outside of the building, in particular the outdoor security cameras, and one photo of an employee (face obscured) using a VHF portable radio. (I do write for two radio hobby magazines). I was never warned not to do so. Wal-mart, if you want me to stop taking photos, then stop developing my photos, and stop selling me the very camera I used to take the photos! John B From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 15:37:05 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Jan 6 15:38:36 2005 Subject: Walmart and freedom of the press References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050106142932.02abf138@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <023c01c4f42f$80abcec0$1404fea9@xyz> From: "Donna Halper" > But Walmart tried > to confiscate his camera, citing a policy that no pictures can be taken on > Walmart property without permission-- not even pictures of breaking > news. All pictures must be approved in advance-- here is their stated > policy. Does this make sense to anyone? Once you step onto private property, don't you have to abide by the rules of the owner...as long as said rules don't break the law? No fixing cars in lot....no leaving cars overnight....etc., to name just a few of the rules we take for granted. Unless you are one that believes that journalists have special rights, as was discussed in the WJAR-TV journalist story (who refused to divulge a source). Now, if he stood on the edge of the property and took the picture, I would think they couldn't have said much about that. From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Jan 6 15:54:50 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu Jan 6 15:55:53 2005 Subject: Walmart and freedom of the press In-Reply-To: <023c01c4f42f$80abcec0$1404fea9@xyz> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050106142932.02abf138@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050106155130.02ad05b8@pop.registeredsite.com> >Joe said-- >Unless you are one that believes that journalists have special rights, as >was discussed in the WJAR-TV journalist story (who refused to divulge a >source). Umm, not the conversation I was having. This isn't about 'special rights' or about any partisan right wing or left wing issues. It's a question about what "freedom of the press" means in today's society. In other words, my question was about whether a reporter, be it for radio or print or TV, has the right to cover a breaking story or if they have to get a corporation's permission in order to do their job. (sound of Edward R. Murrow spinning in his grave...) From billo@shoreham.net Thu Jan 6 15:55:58 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Jan 6 15:56:04 2005 Subject: Walmart and freedom of the press In-Reply-To: <023c01c4f42f$80abcec0$1404fea9@xyz> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050106142932.02abf138@pop.registeredsite.com> <023c01c4f42f$80abcec0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <41DDA5DE.10508@shoreham.net> Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >Now, if he stood on the edge of the property and took the picture, I would >think they couldn't have said much about that. > > > Unless they claim to own their image and likeness . Too bad such a big corp. is putting themselves out there to look so petty. In this era, the fourth estate (what's left of it) has every reason to hold tight. Bill O'Neill From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 16:36:06 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Jan 6 16:37:20 2005 Subject: Walmart and freedom of the press References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050106142932.02abf138@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050106155130.02ad05b8@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <02d801c4f437$bda98a80$1404fea9@xyz> From: "Donna Halper" > >Joe said-- > >Unless you are one that believes that journalists have special rights, as > >was discussed in the WJAR-TV journalist story (who refused to divulge a > >source). > > Umm, not the conversation I was having. Only in that this journalists claimed his right to "cover a story" trumped his normal obligations to the regular conventions that we all must abide by. I believe that 'Freedom of the Press' means just that...you are free to print your thoughts and hand it out to people. However, I am under no obligation to help you "cover a story" or distribute/circulate. Just as "freedom of Speech" means you can stand in the city square, stand on a saopbox and spout your beliefs....none of are under the obligation to accomodate you. > In other > words, my question was about whether a reporter, be it for radio or print > or TV, has the right to cover a breaking story... I don't think they have a "right" to "cover a story". > ...or if they have to get a > corporation's permission in order to do their job. They do if that infringes on the rights of others. (i.e...a private individual or a private organization.) Now, Governments, Courts, elected officials...thats a different story. We all have a right to know, because the information belongs to the public. Thats why we have the Freedom of Information act. Just another opinion.... (PS: Also keep in mind that one of the practices taking place at department and clothing stores is dubiously taking pictures of people in the rest rooms and changing rooms....and many places now have the "no camera" rule in effect all the time. Although in this case, it appears someone was just worried about WalMart embarassment.) From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Jan 6 17:05:40 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Jan 6 17:05:45 2005 Subject: Imus Message-ID: <14164257.1105049140457.JavaMail.kc1ih@mac.com> It is reported that Don Imus made some anti-semetic remarks on his show, and refused to apologize. Here's a link to the article: http://www.beliefnet.com/story/159/story_15902_1.html My guess is he will not be fined over this unless he uses one of the "seven dirty words". Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From jjlehmann@comcast.net Thu Jan 6 17:11:50 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Thu Jan 6 17:11:30 2005 Subject: Imus In-Reply-To: <14164257.1105049140457.JavaMail.kc1ih@mac.com> Message-ID: <00b201c4f43c$b92807c0$6400a8c0@n1zzn> I saw that he was taken off Clear Channel's 640 WNNZ in Springfield recently. Could this be the reason? Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Weil Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 5:06 PM To: Boston Radio Subject: Imus It is reported that Don Imus made some anti-semetic remarks on his show, and refused to apologize. Here's a link to the article: http://www.beliefnet.com/story/159/story_15902_1.html My guess is he will not be fined over this unless he uses one of the "seven dirty words". Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 17:26:42 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu Jan 6 17:26:47 2005 Subject: Kate Amara leaving WMUR-TV Channel 9 Manchester Message-ID: <20050106222642.83148.qmail@web12507.mail.yahoo.com> Channel 9 reported that morning anchor Kate Amara is leaving for sister station WBAL in Baltimore. John B Derry NH From stevewest106@hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 20:46:03 2005 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Thu Jan 6 20:47:10 2005 Subject: Imus In-Reply-To: <14164257.1105049140457.JavaMail.kc1ih@mac.com> Message-ID: This was reported on allaccess also. Whatever happened to the days when radio folks didn't stray into the foray of foul language and disparaging comments? Gone, along with 70s-style formatics and requirements for news and legal id's every 30 minutes, I guess. This all does make me wish for the old days. On the other hand, look at Imus. He's considered a feeble, old guy, not even close to on par with Stern - yet 20 years ago Imus was king of NYC radio and Stern tried his best to outdo his morning show rival on WNBC. Got himself fired in the process in '85. I think Imus tries to get as close to the edge as he can to remain competitive. IMHO, he probably doesn't even feel about Jews what his comments reflected. Time was when the I-man made everyone a target. In some ways he still does, but he just doesn't have it anymore. > >It is reported that Don Imus made some anti-semetic remarks on his show, >and refused to apologize. Here's a link to the article: >http://www.beliefnet.com/story/159/story_15902_1.html > >My guess is he will not be fined over this unless he uses one of the "seven >dirty words". > > >Larry Weil >Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Jan 7 03:11:38 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Jan 7 03:11:56 2005 Subject: New calls for 700 Orange MA Message-ID: <20050107081138.11CBF12D49@mprdmxin.myway.com> 100000watts.com lists the owner of WJOE (700 Orange-Athol, MA) as Northeast Broadcasting (sold by Citadel in Oct. of '03). They simulcast WGAW 1340 (Gardner) http://www.wgawam.com _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Jan 7 15:14:56 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Jan 7 15:15:32 2005 Subject: Globe: Going "Back to the 80s" doesn't get old Message-ID: <20050107201456.56383399D@mprdmxin.myway.com> If it's Friday night it must be Duran Duran, the Police, Madonna, and Bon Jovi on WBMX. Clea Simon's Globe article about WBMX's "Back to the 80s Friday Night". (Note: host Joe Cortese also does a syndie version called "Retro Pop Re-union") http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2005/01/07/going_back_to_the_80s_doesnt_get_old/ _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Jan 7 16:58:04 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Jan 7 16:58:13 2005 Subject: Imus Message-ID: <20050107215804.0E63ACA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve West" To: kc1ih@mac.com, bri@bostonradio.org Subject: RE: Imus Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:46:03 -0600 > > This was reported on allaccess also. > > Time was when the I-man made everyone a target. In some ways he > still does, but he just doesn't have it anymore. > > > Larry Weil > > Lake Wobegone, NH The Boston Herald suggested he may be stepping over certain formerly "bright" lines to set the stage for a Stern- Bob Edwards-like switch to satellite...but his occasionally frail health and age would probably make such a move unlikely. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Jan 7 17:07:56 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Jan 7 17:08:05 2005 Subject: Walmart and freedom of the press Message-ID: <20050107220756.21A41CA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "John Bolduc" >To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Walmart and freedom of the press >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:36:45 -0800 (PST) > > This past September at the Wal-Mart in Derry NH they had a Race Car > promotion for a car the were sponsoring at the NH Inter'l Speedway. I took > about a dozen photos of the display. While I was at it took about five or > six photos of the outside of the building, in particular the outdoor > security cameras, and one photo of an employee (face obscured) using a VHF > portable radio. (I do write for two radio hobby magazines). I was never > warned not to do so. > As Sam Poulten used to say: I have a quizzical question...aren't many Wal-Marts in malls with other stores that (incredible as it sounds) sell stuff the the ubiquitous predatory retailer doesn't? Does W*M actually OWN the land on which these boxes sit? Thus if a fire or robbery happened at a carpet store next to W*M, then what? BTW their outlet in Methuen is a rare non-big-box operation; it took over the space vacated by Caldor and is surrounded by other stores and The Loop. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billo@shoreham.net Fri Jan 7 17:33:54 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Jan 7 17:33:56 2005 Subject: Imus In-Reply-To: <20050107215804.0E63ACA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050107215804.0E63ACA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <41DF0E52.5050203@shoreham.net> Laurence Glavin wrote: >The Boston Herald suggested he may be stepping over certain >formerly "bright" lines to set the stage for a Stern- >Bob Edwards-like switch to satellite...but his occasionally >frail health and age would probably make such a move unlikely. > > > I'd considered that possibility as early as December when he'd joke about working for Mel again and then laugh it off. I figure it's just a way to rattle the pans on contract renewal with Viacom. Imus does have respiratory problems, to say the least, and is still putting in a very busy day for a person of his age/health. The only way I could see Imus going to Sirius would be if there was a deal with CBS TV for the morning show or if MSNBC were to become the host studio and up the visibility as with NBC, ABC, Fox AM products. He's long complained about the dank basement studio at WFAN. Imus and his group "travel well" and work well with a live audience. I could envision something that could give them that exposure without the travel that would need to go with it. Another question it raises is when Imus does take the gold watch, what will come of his broadcast team? Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Fri Jan 7 17:36:12 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Jan 7 17:36:13 2005 Subject: Walmart and freedom of the press In-Reply-To: <20050107220756.21A41CA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050107220756.21A41CA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <41DF0EDC.5070600@shoreham.net> Laurence Glavin wrote: >As Sam Poulten used to say: I have a quizzical question...aren't many >Wal-Marts in malls with other stores that (incredible as it sounds) >sell stuff the the ubiquitous predatory retailer doesn't? Does W*M >actually OWN the land on which these boxes sit? Thus if a fire >or robbery happened at a carpet store next to W*M, then what? >BTW their outlet in Methuen is a rare non-big-box operation; >it took over the space vacated by Caldor and is surrounded by >other stores and The Loop. > > Actually Walmarts are mostly stand-alones and the real estate is held by a subsidiary/sister. If they don't share with a SAM, then I'd assume they do own the plazas. Bill O'Neill From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Jan 7 17:50:53 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Jan 7 17:51:03 2005 Subject: WGBH Cape Cod Station Files CP Message-ID: <20050107225053.A7E25CA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> The FCC's Daily digest reports that the WGBH Educational Foundation has applied for 94.3 in Brewster. ERP: 4.7 KW at 370 feet. Tower site: 41 46 36 N 70 00 40 W Two miles from WFCC so they're not using that tower; close to the 91.3 in Orleans but it may not be that tall. I heard that WGBH was going to attach itself to an existing tower and not build a new one. (There's a large tower just behind the Governor Prence Motel in Orleans...it doesn't appear to have a broadcaster on it, but it would be perfect for WGBH's needs. (Maybe some day, when WBUR's books are balanced, they could acquire the CP for 102.3 in Truro, and use that to cover parts of the Cape! -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Jan 7 17:52:28 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Jan 7 17:52:36 2005 Subject: Imus Message-ID: <200501071752.AA3541303634@mail.ttlc.net> "Bill O'Neill" ponders: >Another question it raises is when Imus does take the gold watch, what >will come of his broadcast team? Cryogenics, Disney Robotics and an audiovault filled with every word the I-Man has ever uttered. From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Jan 7 19:48:14 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Jan 7 19:48:29 2005 Subject: Imus References: <20050107215804.0E63ACA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> <41DF0E52.5050203@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <005701c4f51b$bc88a390$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> I seem to remember Imus saying that he recently signed a contract extension. I think he is signed through '07. From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Jan 7 20:15:13 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Jan 7 20:15:52 2005 Subject: Norm Resha RIP Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050107201358.02b44d08@pop.registeredsite.com> SO Norm Resha passed away today-- wow, this past few months have seen so much loss of life... I didn't know Norm was that seriously ill-- I knew he was having surgery but... From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Fri Jan 7 23:59:43 2005 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Fri Jan 7 23:59:56 2005 Subject: Walmart and freedom of the press In-Reply-To: <20050107220756.21A41CA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050107220756.21A41CA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20050107235019.031ab2b0@pop.gis.net> > > > >As Sam Poulten used to say: I have a quizzical question...aren't many >Wal-Marts in malls with other stores that (incredible as it sounds) >sell stuff the the ubiquitous predatory retailer doesn't? Does W*M >actually OWN the land on which these boxes sit? Thus if a fire >or robbery happened at a carpet store next to W*M, then what? >BTW their outlet in Methuen is a rare non-big-box operation; >it took over the space vacated by Caldor and is surrounded by >other stores and The Loop. >-- There is no one way of doing things in real estate. Each and every location is a different deal. Retailers that own more than 1 brand will frequently try to locate as many as possible together to drive down the cost. If they are renting, by negotiating a better deal or if they own, the cost of construction will be less on a per square foot basis. Why not in malls ? Simple, the cost is many times a free standing location. How much more ? 4 times up to 50 times more per foot ! From markwats@comcast.net Sat Jan 8 07:33:13 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat Jan 8 07:33:28 2005 Subject: Vox Rehires George Trottier Message-ID: <005201c4f57e$3a7420b0$6f918318@Mark> Earlier this week, I posted here that Vox had fired George Trottier, who had been providing weather forecasts for WNAW & WMNB North Adams MA for 35 years. After receiving numerous calls & e-mails protesting that decision, Vox asked Trottier to return, to which he agreed. Here is a link to an article in the Berkshire Eagle about Trottier's return. http://www.berkshireeagle.com/Stories/0,1413,101~7514~2641950,00.html Mark Watson From markwats@comcast.net Sat Jan 8 08:51:33 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat Jan 8 08:51:46 2005 Subject: Changes At WROR Message-ID: <007c01c4f589$2bb1e520$6f918318@Mark> All Access is reporting that afternoon drive host Tai has exited WROR (105.7 Framingham/Boston), and that Albert O moves from nights to overnights. I also heard among the "classic hits" over the past few days such songs as "September" by Earth, Wind & Fire, "You Are The Sunshine Of My Life" by Stevie Wonder and "Sundown" by Gordon Lightfoot. I wonder if music changes are on the way as well. Mark Watson From kwillcox@wnsh.com Sat Jan 8 11:09:11 2005 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (Keating Willcox) Date: Sat Jan 8 11:06:37 2005 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050108110825.026104c0@mail.comcast.net> Sorry to hear about Norm Resha. Has anyone heard any details? Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Beverly 'playing the best music ever recorded' kwillcox@wnsh.com www.wnsh.com 978-921-1570 FAX 978-468-1954 376 Hale Street, Beverly, MA 01915 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Jan 8 13:05:21 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Jan 8 13:05:28 2005 Subject: WFPB Can Be Heard Clearly North Of Boston Message-ID: <20050108180521.CE3E5E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> U-Mass Boston's AM repeater, WFPB-AM 1170 in Orleans, MA usually has very little signal north of Boston. It's a directional station that currently protects WDIS (as in dismal) in Norfolk. (When the 1170 in Orleans went on the air, at about the time Carly Simon was writing "You're So Vain", there was no 1170 in Norfolk...why was it directional in the first place then?) Anyway, at this very minute, 12:55 pm est 01/08/05, WFPB is quite audible north of Boston. I first noticed it this morning while checking my radio that displays relative signal strength, and that picks up AMs from all directions. It overwhelmed WDIS. Then I checked the portable GE radio that neverytheless is NOT a super-radio but is very fine indeed... I use it to listen to LTAR (LTAR alert: tomorrow at 11:00 AM on WJIB; next Sunday at 8:00 am on WJTO) this unit is directional, so when I point it SW, WDIS comes in fairly well over WFPB; but usually when I point it SE, WDIS weakens (even more) and WFPB can be heard faintly...this morning WFBP came it very well, something that never happens to WBUR-AM 1240. I suppose this is because AM 1240 is on the south-facing coast; WFPB is at the north-facing coast. I frequently ride the Cape Cod bicycle trail from Harwich to Orleans, and you go right by the AM 1170/FM 104.7 towers on the right with the Bay on your left. Can a directional station "accidentally" go NDA, or might they be doing something with one tower so they're using the other in non-directinal mode? Inquiring minds wish to know. Laurence Glavin Methuen, MA -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Jan 8 13:09:44 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Jan 8 13:09:54 2005 Subject: Ooops...I spoke too soon: no LTAR Sunday Message-ID: <20050108180944.E5EA5E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> It goes to show you that it's a good idea to read one's e-mails before posting. Bob Bittner sent a message that "Let's Talk About Radio" will NOT be heard Sunday Jan. 9th on WJIB...thus there won't be a show next Sunday on WJTO either. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Jan 8 13:45:08 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Jan 8 13:45:44 2005 Subject: Norm Resha RIP Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050108134334.029949e8@pop.registeredsite.com> I've been really surprised by how little info is available about Norm's sudden passing. I couldn't find it only website except for the WTKK site. My husband heard it on WBZ radio one time yesterday, but I can't find it on their site either, and Boston.com gets most of its weekend news from AP, so if the story didn't move on the wire, they don't have it either. From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Jan 8 14:41:16 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Jan 8 14:41:24 2005 Subject: Norm Resha RIP Message-ID: <20050108194116.1DA7CCA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Donna Halper" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: re: Norm Resha RIP >Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:45:08 -0500 > > I've been really surprised by how little info is available about > Norm's sudden passing. I couldn't find it only website except for > the WTKK site. My husband heard it on WBZ radio one time > yesterday, but I can't find it on their site either, and Boston.com > gets most of its weekend news from AP, so if the story didn't move > on the wire, they don't have it either. The Boston Herald print edition has it but not the website, for now. Maybe later in the day or tomorrow it will appear on bostonherald.com. The last website obit is dated Friday. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Jan 8 15:08:05 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Jan 8 15:10:11 2005 Subject: WFPB Can Be Heard Clearly North Of Boston References: <20050108180521.CE3E5E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <001301c4f5be$0ddb8c60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Of course an AM could "accidentally" go ND. It's almost standard procedure to design directional arrays so that ND operation is possible in case something happens to one or more towers--like a tower falls down but doesn't take all of its neighbors with it. As for WFPB, the line of its two towers is 128 degrees, pretty much southeast. The front tower is 211 degrees high (almost exactly 150m--a nice number for the FM antenna height). The pattern is a classical two-tower cardioid with 90-degree spacing and 90-degree phase, but with a signal ratio of 1.2:1, with the larger signal coming out of the back tower. The orientation certainly explains why you can't normally pick up WFPB in Methuen. I had figured that the orientation was much closer to 90 degrees, but 128 degrees actually makes more sense, because it should allow the signal to cover the entire Cape. As to why WFPB (I think it was WVLC at the time) was directional when it went on the air before WDIS (WJMQ?), I believe that the two stations filed mutrually exclusive applications, which the FCC designated for a hearing. At the hearing, it was realized that both could be granted if each protected the other. I think both were granted at the same time. Orleans must have gotten on the air before Norfolk. Considering that Norfolk could never make money, there was proably little incentive to build. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:05 PM Subject: WFPB Can Be Heard Clearly North Of Boston > Can a directional station "accidentally" go NDA, or > might they be doing something with one tower so they're > using the other in non-directinal mode? Inquiring minds > wish to know. > From Kaimbridge@programmer.net Sat Jan 8 15:42:26 2005 From: Kaimbridge@programmer.net (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Sat Jan 8 15:42:46 2005 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: WFPB Can Be Heard Clearly North Of Boston Message-ID: <41E045B2.555428A0@Programmer.Net> The esteemed Laurence Glavin from Methuen wrote, > U-Mass Boston's AM repeater, WFPB-AM 1170 in Orleans, MA usually > has very little signal north of Boston. It's a directional station > that currently protects WDIS (as in dismal) in Norfolk. > Anyway, at this very minute, 12:55 pm est 01/08/05, WFPB > is quite audible north of Boston. Yup, same here, up in Beverly--with the radio aimed in the right direction, WFPB is probably 5-10 times stronger than normal (about equal to Quincy's WJDA-?)! > Can a directional station "accidentally" go NDA, or > might they be doing something with one tower so they're > using the other in non-directinal mode? Inquiring minds > wish to know. This happened before, several years ago (back when they were // 104.7, which was "regular" AOR or Top-40), and stayed that way for--IIRC--several months. Perhaps an auxiliary xmtr? ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From mlaurence@mindspring.com Sat Jan 8 16:18:19 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sat Jan 8 16:18:24 2005 Subject: Breaking the format at 1200/1430? Message-ID: <12576890.1105219099304.JavaMail.root@wamui09.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Boston's Progressive Talk Network (we can't really call it Air America since 1/3 of its programming comes from Jones Radio Network) was breaking the "progressive talk" barrier today. Instead of Al Franken's "best of" show at 10 this morning, they had a financial help show instead. I didn't catch the host's name but it sounds like something that's heard on a lot of New England radio stations. There certainly wasn't anything "progressive" about it, as he was telling one listener where to put his money in CD's, and telling a 78 year old listener about annuity contracts. Hopefully this doesn't mean 1200/1430 is going down the road to brokered talk. Their website lists Al Franken's show on the schedule. Mark From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Jan 8 17:03:45 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Jan 8 17:04:26 2005 Subject: Breaking the format at 1200/1430? In-Reply-To: <12576890.1105219099304.JavaMail.root@wamui09.slb.atl.earth link.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050108170052.02b79c28@pop.registeredsite.com> At 04:18 PM 1/8/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Boston's Progressive Talk Network (we can't really call it Air America >since 1/3 of its programming comes from Jones Radio Network) was breaking >the "progressive talk" barrier today. Instead of Al Franken's "best of" >show at 10 this morning, they had a financial help show instead. I was told a while back that a couple of the shows that were contracted under the old format were still gonna be carried till their contracts expired-- but they would be placed on weekends, rather than in the prime-time weekday slot. Since AA and Jones are not fully staffed on the weekends yet and mainly run best-of compilations on Saturday and Sunday (which, I hear, may change soon), it's probably just an effort to honour an old contract, get some revenue into the station, etc. I doubt it will still be on the air in a couple of months. From hmglaz@webtv.net Sat Jan 8 18:57:07 2005 From: hmglaz@webtv.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Sat Jan 8 18:57:17 2005 Subject: Imus In-Reply-To: boston-radio-interest-request@rolinin.BostonRadio.org's message of Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:00:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <16378-41E07353-1043@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net> On the possibility of Imus going satellite, why not? At the Consumer Electronics Show this past week, XM announced the acquisition of rights to two talk hosts who are (a) no strangers to controversy and (b) on the downside of their careers in syndication: G. Gordon Liddy and "Dr." Laura Schlesinger. I believe both of them will remain in syndication on what we XMers refer to as "terrestrial radio" as well, but that's not the case for the third "name" introduced by XM: Tony Kornheiser, late of ESPN Radio and currently of ESPN TV's "Pardon the Interruption." He's been on Washington's WTEM for the past few months, but his non-compete clause with ESPN prohibited his syndication. Loophole found! WTEM will now just feed his show to XM for national distribution. WTEM is a Clear Channel station, but CC may or may not still own a piece of XM. Reports in one of the XM fan sites maintain that CC revealed in its last SEC filing that it had sold off its entire stake in XM. I haven't seen any corroboration of this in the media and haven't checked the SEC's site myself. Anyway, even if CC truly has no horse in the satellite race anymore, they are still pretty buddy-buddy with XM. Howard From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sat Jan 8 19:21:39 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sat Jan 8 19:29:25 2005 Subject: Changes At WROR In-Reply-To: <007c01c4f589$2bb1e520$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <000001c4f5e1$30916c20$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Mark noted: >> All Access is reporting that afternoon drive host Tai has exited WROR (105.7 Framingham/Boston), and that Albert O moves from nights to overnights. I also heard among the "classic hits" over the past few days such songs as "September" by Earth, Wind & Fire, "You Are The Sunshine Of My Life" by Stevie Wonder and "Sundown" by Gordon Lightfoot. I wonder if music changes are on the way as well. << I'm surprised at the move out of Tai. I had thought that Tai was the centerpiece of the WROR team that Buzz was building. The Albert O move, I understand, was one of a personal convenience for Albert. The music shift, however, was long overdue in its return. Let me know when they fire up KC & The Sunshine Band and the Supremes again. - -Chuck Igo From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Jan 8 19:38:14 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat Jan 8 19:38:20 2005 Subject: Changes At WROR In-Reply-To: <000001c4f5e1$30916c20$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <001301c4f5e3$811ae020$6400a8c0@n1zzn> Let me know when WROR brings back the great JAM jingles! It's a shame that now no station in Boston (unless you count the very few used by Plymouth's WPLM-FM) is using JAM. If anyone has those jingles from WROR, I'd really like to hear them again. I've got quite a few from other stations here in Boston, and elsewhere that I'd be happy to trade. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Igo Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:22 PM To: 'Mark Watson' Cc: 'Boston Radio' Subject: RE: Changes At WROR Mark noted: >> All Access is reporting that afternoon drive host Tai has exited WROR (105.7 Framingham/Boston), and that Albert O moves from nights to overnights. I also heard among the "classic hits" over the past few days such songs as "September" by Earth, Wind & Fire, "You Are The Sunshine Of My Life" by Stevie Wonder and "Sundown" by Gordon Lightfoot. I wonder if music changes are on the way as well. << I'm surprised at the move out of Tai. I had thought that Tai was the centerpiece of the WROR team that Buzz was building. The Albert O move, I understand, was one of a personal convenience for Albert. The music shift, however, was long overdue in its return. Let me know when they fire up KC & The Sunshine Band and the Supremes again. - -Chuck Igo From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Jan 8 23:42:42 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Jan 8 23:43:32 2005 Subject: Ooops...I spoke too soon: no LTAR Sunday In-Reply-To: <20050108180944.E5EA5E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <41E06FF2.18769.411363@localhost> On 8 Jan 2005 at 13:09, Laurence Glavin wrote: > It goes to show you that it's a good idea to read one's > e-mails before posting. Bob Bittner sent a message that > "Let's Talk About Radio" will NOT be heard Sunday Jan. 9th > on WJIB...thus there won't be a show next Sunday on WJTO > either. Is something wrong? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Jan 9 10:32:05 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Jan 9 10:32:14 2005 Subject: radio-info and LTAR Message-ID: <20050109153205.8E4593979@mprdmxin.myway.com> First, was told that due to a domain name mixup, radio-info.com has been "down" recently but can be reached at http://www.radio-info.net (you may try that and get nothing but clear your "cache" and hit refresh). It may soon pop up again at http://www.radio-info.com (explanation of what went on is at main page). Also, there was a post suggesting that Let's Talk About Radio may not be on this week, either (reg. monthly edition did not air last week, and may not be on this week, either). I may still try to tape it "just in case". Wondering if bad weather has kept Bob Bittner from getting into Cambridge to tape it. We'll have to see if it's on or not... (10:30 am Sun as I type this) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Jan 9 13:07:35 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Jan 9 13:07:44 2005 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: WFPB Can Be Heard Clearly North Of Boston Message-ID: <20050109180735.0FAC486B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" >To: "B-R-I" >Subject: [B-R-I] Re: WFPB Can Be Heard Clearly North Of Boston >Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:42:26 +0000 > > The esteemed Laurence Glavin from Methuen wrote, > > > U-Mass Boston's AM repeater, WFPB-AM 1170 in Orleans, MA usually > > has very little signal north of Boston. It's a directional station > > that currently protects WDIS (as in dismal) in Norfolk. > > > Anyway, at this very minute, 12:55 pm est 01/08/05, WFPB > > is quite audible north of Boston. > > Yup, same here, up in Beverly--with the radio aimed in the right > direction, WFPB is probably 5-10 times stronger than normal (about > equal to Quincy's WJDA-?)! > It's happening again today (01/09) and I can get it quite well on my car radio driving even city streets; on the the highway it obliterates WDIS (not that there's anything wrong with that). -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Jan 9 13:12:14 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Jan 9 13:12:21 2005 Subject: Breaking the format at 1200/1430? Message-ID: <20050109181214.1D7DF86B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Donna Halper" >To: "Mark Laurence" >Subject: Re: Breaking the format at 1200/1430? >Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:03:45 -0500 > > At 04:18 PM 1/8/2005 -0500, you wrote: > > Boston's Progressive Talk Network (we can't really call it Air > > America since 1/3 of its programming comes from Jones Radio > > Network) was breaking the "progressive talk" barrier today. > > Instead of Al Franken's "best of" show at 10 this morning, they > > had a financial help show instead. > I caught that show myself while expecting a best of Franken...I heard it long enough for the host to take a call from WTAG, Worcester. I checked WTAG and yes it was on live; then I checked WGIR-AM 610 and they had it. It may be a CCU show. At least it wasn;t a pre-taped fake talk show which so many of these are. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jan 9 13:47:50 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Jan 9 13:48:01 2005 Subject: radio-info and LTAR References: <20050109153205.8E4593979@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <001301c4f67b$bc1f6180$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I find that http://radio-info.net (note: NO www) works to get me to the radio-info home page, but all of the site's own links are broken from that point on. That is, if I click on Boards, I get a 404--Not Found page. The internal links (at least the ones I tried to follow) have been changed to specify .net instead of .com BUT the www has not been removed. Until that problem has been corrected, navigating around the site is going to be troublesome. Fortunately, after you click on a link, the supposed URL appears in the browser's address field, so once you get the 404 page, you can go up to the address field and delete the www. I know there is a way for the people responsible for the site to make the necessary changes now and not have to change everything back when the old URL once again gets you to the home page, but I am not enough of a Web maven to know how that is accomplished. Someone at radio-info had better know and had better implement the fix before the site's many regulars give up hope. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 10:32 AM Subject: radio-info and LTAR > > First, was told that due to a domain name mixup, radio-info.com has been "down" recently but can be reached at http://www.radio-info.net > (you may try that and get nothing but clear your "cache" and hit refresh). It may soon pop up again at http://www.radio-info.com > (explanation of what went on is at main page). > > Also, there was a post suggesting that Let's Talk About Radio may not be on this week, either (reg. monthly edition did not air last week, and may not be on this week, either). I may still try to tape > it "just in case". Wondering if bad weather has kept Bob Bittner > from getting into Cambridge to tape it. We'll have to see if it's > on or not... (10:30 am Sun as I type this) > > > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Jan 9 14:47:39 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun Jan 9 14:31:34 2005 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: WFPB Can Be Heard Clearly North Of Boston In-Reply-To: <41E045B2.555428A0@Programmer.Net> Message-ID: WFBP-AM's signal comes in over the water along the North Shore coast. I've heard it faintly at Logan Airport, but it's gone just couple of miles inland into Chelsea and Everett. I've heard it well in the past on the upper North Shore (Cape Ann), up in Gloucester and Ipswich, which are more easterly toward the water. I wonder how far it goes northeast directly over the water? I'm curious whether, in the summer when the station gets to stay on until nearly 9 PM if anyone up in Nova Scotia could hear Marcia Young Palmater playing the traditional music of their region on her one-hour show Downeast Ceilidh Saturday nights at 8 PM? Eli On 1/8/05 3:42 PM, "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" wrote: > The esteemed Laurence Glavin from Methuen wrote, > >> U-Mass Boston's AM repeater, WFPB-AM 1170 in Orleans, MA usually >> has very little signal north of Boston. It's a directional station >> that currently protects WDIS (as in dismal) in Norfolk. > >> Anyway, at this very minute, 12:55 pm est 01/08/05, WFPB >> is quite audible north of Boston. > > Yup, same here, up in Beverly--with the radio aimed in the right > direction, WFPB is probably 5-10 times stronger than normal (about > equal to Quincy's WJDA-?)! From rjoc@webtv.net Sun Jan 9 14:58:06 2005 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Sun Jan 9 14:58:14 2005 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: WFPB Can Be Heard Clearly North Of Boston Message-ID: <20050109195806.0BE81D718@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> WFPB comes is fairly well here on the Maine Coast at Southwest Harbor, on south sie of Mount Desert Island. But then, it's nearly all straight over the Gulf of Maine. They aren;t as rock-solid as WBZ or WRKO, or local WDEA-1370, but about equal to WXKS-1430, WJDA-1300, or JibGuy's WJTO-730. And that's on my stereo receiver with a long-wire AM Antenna. Not a DX machine at all.. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine about 220 miles NE of Orleans, Cape Cod From pete@partnercomm.com Sun Jan 9 15:03:21 2005 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Sun Jan 9 15:03:32 2005 Subject: Radio-info boards down? Message-ID: <41E18E09.9000307@partnercomm.com> A forward of a posting to PUBTECH in which I explained why radio-info.com is not working... and a temporary workaround. -Peter Peter Murray (N3IXY) Vienna, VA -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Pubtech] Radio-info boards down? Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:25:42 -0500 From: Peter Murray Reply-To: PUBtech Public Radio Tech Talk To: PUBtech Public Radio Tech Talk Black, Mike wrote: >I don't want to clutter the list, but are the radio-info boards down or >do we have a local internet problem? > >Thanks... > >Mike Black >WEOS >Geneva, NY > > It appears to be local to radio-info.com - but more because their domain doesn't have proper contact info: --- [pete@eminence pete]$ whois radio-info.com [whois.crsnic.net] Whois Server Version 1.3 Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information. Domain Name: RADIO-INFO.COM Registrar: INTERCOSMOS MEDIA GROUP, INC. D/B/A DIRECTNIC.COM Whois Server: whois.directnic.com Referral URL: http://www.directnic.com Name Server: NS14.ZONEEDIT.COM Name Server: NS15.ZONEEDIT.COM Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK Updated Date: 11-nov-2004 Creation Date: 28-jan-1999 Expiration Date: 28-jan-2008 >>> Last update of whois database: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 19:17:15 EST <<< [whois.directnic.com] Registrant: This domain is not active. invalid WHOIS, domain disabled invalid WHOIS, domain disabled invalid WHOIS, domain disabled invalid WHOIS domain disabled, WY 99999 US 9990000000 Fax:9980000000 Domain Name: RADIO-INFO.COM Administrative Contact: This domain was reported to, ICANN for invalid WHOIS info. customer-must-correct-the-info@or-the-domain-will-be-deleted.com invalid WHOIS, domain disabled invalid WHOIS, domain disabled invalid WHOIS, domain disabled invalid WHOIS domain disabled, WY 99999 US 9990000000 Fax:9980000000 Technical Contact: This domain was reported to, ICANN for invalid WHOIS info. customer-must-correct-the-info@or-the-domain-will-be-deleted.com invalid WHOIS, domain disabled invalid WHOIS, domain disabled invalid WHOIS, domain disabled invalid WHOIS domain disabled, WY 99999 US 9990000000 Fax:9980000000 Record last updated 01-06-2005 01:01:50 PM Record expires on 01-28-2008 Record created on 01-28-1999 Domain servers in listed order: NS0.DIRECTNIC.COM 204.251.10.100 NS1.DIRECTNIC.COM 206.251.177.2 --- One can go directly to the nameservers (above) for resolution of www.radio-info.com, however (resolves to 204.251.15.209). You'll need to use that nameserver directly to get to this HTTP 1.1 website (IP address will only take you to the main directNIC site). -Peter Peter Murray (N3IXY) Vienna, VA From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jan 9 15:30:43 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Jan 9 15:30:46 2005 Subject: radio-info and LTAR References: <20050109153205.8E4593979@mprdmxin.myway.com> <001301c4f67b$bc1f6180$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <6.0.3.0.0.20050109144110.01c11cf0@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <005801c4f68a$1b4d7f80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Can't tell. I now know that sometimes the www is necessary and at other times it mustn't be in the URL. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to when the different conditions apply. With enough patience, I was able to bring up every page I wanted to appear, but sometimes it took more than half a dozen tries, with different combinations of www/NO www and .net/.com. Quite annoying. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: "Dan Strassberg" ; "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: Re: radio-info and LTAR > Dan Strassberg wrote: > >I find that http://radio-info.net (note: NO www) works to get me to the > >radio-info home page, but all of the site's own links are broken from that > >point on. That is, if I click on Boards, I get a 404--Not Found page. > >The internal links (at least the ones I tried to follow) have been changed > >to specify .net instead of .com BUT the www has not been removed. Until that > >problem has been corrected, navigating around the site is going to be > >troublesome. > > > I wonder if it's a server capacity problem. I ran into that a few times, > hit the "back" button on my browser and tried again...it usually worked the > second time. Only time it's a PITA is when you're trying to post > something...go back and everything you typed is gone. > > From billo@shoreham.net Sun Jan 9 17:23:14 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Jan 9 17:23:17 2005 Subject: Breaking the format at 1200/1430? In-Reply-To: <20050109181214.1D7DF86B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050109181214.1D7DF86B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <41E1AED2.50200@shoreham.net> Laurence Glavin wrote: >I caught that show myself while expecting a best of Franken... > Talk about the shortest show in radio history. Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Jan 10 10:53:10 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Jan 10 10:53:22 2005 Subject: Where is Tai headed next? Message-ID: <20050110155310.0481012DC3@mprdmxin.myway.com> Today's Herald confirmed that 3 local radio personalities were let go last week: Tai from WROR, Neal Robert from WBOS, and Angelle Wood of WFNX http://theedge.bostonherald.com/musicNews/view.bg?articleid=62659 Any idea where these folks may wind up? In the case of Tai, I wonder if he may: --go back to WFNX --be a local talk host for Air America 1200/1430, or warm the bench for WRKO again (too bad Greater Media couldn't shuttle him off to WTKK--he could fill in for Jay Severin) --wouldn't it be odd to hear the guy who once played the Violent Femmes for us to be heard spinning Motown as a WODS part timer? And not sure where Roberts and Wood will wind up... _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Jan 10 11:55:20 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Jan 10 11:55:23 2005 Subject: radio-info and LTAR In-Reply-To: <005801c4f68a$1b4d7f80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20050109153205.8E4593979@mprdmxin.myway.com> <001301c4f67b$bc1f6180$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <6.0.3.0.0.20050109144110.01c11cf0@pop3.grolen.com> <005801c4f68a$1b4d7f80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <200501101655.j0AGtK9W032253@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> The tribulations of radio-info.com, as interesting as they may be to some, are off-topic for this mailing-list. -GAWollman From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Jan 10 14:54:43 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Jan 10 14:54:51 2005 Subject: Make-Goods Message-ID: <200501101454.AA1985741130@mail.ttlc.net> What constitutes the need to "make good" on a commercial? Who decides if a make-good is called for? Which of the following would qualify: Running the top-of-the-hour ID over the last few words of the commercial? Running two commercials simultaneously for 5 seconds and killing one of them? Does the one that aired have to be made good? 1 or 2 second audio dropout in the middle of the commercial? First 1 or 2 seconds lost because the "pot was down?" Extraneous audio over the middle of the commercial. Distortion caused by failure in the audio chain. Other reasons? I know that years ago, I heard that some TV stations would not "guarantee" that a color commercial would air in color. From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Jan 10 15:17:07 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Jan 10 15:17:14 2005 Subject: Make-Goods In-Reply-To: <200501101454.AA1985741130@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200501101454.AA1985741130@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <200501102017.j0AKH7T0034147@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > What constitutes the need to "make good" on a commercial? > Who decides if a make-good is called for? I would expect the advertiser's (or agency's) contract with the station (or agency) would spell this out. If it were up to me, I would say that the commercial hasn't run unless it was broadcast uninterrupted, in its entirety, in the amount of time contracted for. > Other reasons? Distortion caused by non-failure in the audio chain; e.g., time-compression or -expansion caused by entering or leaving delay, to the extent that the message is overshadowed. Reduced coverage caused by use of auxiliary transmitter or other emergency facilities. -GAWollman From DonKelley@aol.com Mon Jan 10 15:23:41 2005 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Mon Jan 10 15:23:58 2005 Subject: Make-Goods Message-ID: <27B7E2D2.31EA1C8B.0238A7FB@aol.com> Any of the above would qualify for a make-good. In major markets where services such as Aircheck.net are available a subscribing agency (or competing radio station) can pull up an aircheck of any stopset on any monitored station. You have proof of exactly what aired or didn't air. We do it whenever we run TV campaigns. If our spot doesn't run exactly the way it's supposed to we demand a make-good. Out of daypart - even by a few minutes - also counts. Some agencies demand 3-to-1 make-goods. From billo@shoreham.net Mon Jan 10 15:35:47 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Jan 10 15:35:51 2005 Subject: Make-Goods In-Reply-To: <200501101454.AA1985741130@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200501101454.AA1985741130@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <41E2E723.1080600@shoreham.net> rogerkirk wrote: >What constitutes the need to "make good" on a commercial? >Who decides if a make-good is called for? > >Which of the following would qualify: > >Running the top-of-the-hour ID over the last few words of the >commercial? > > Depends. If it was an ID that talked about "driving" wattage, that could make a difference in the anwer. >Running two commercials simultaneously for 5 seconds and >killing one of them? Does the one that aired have to be made >good? > > Toss 'em both a freebie, go nuts, set yourself free. Or, log the error and let traffic decide. Bill O'Neill From hykker@grolen.com Sat Jan 8 09:35:24 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Mon Jan 10 19:10:11 2005 Subject: Changes At WROR In-Reply-To: <007c01c4f589$2bb1e520$6f918318@Mark> References: <007c01c4f589$2bb1e520$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050108093229.01b67350@pop3.grolen.com> , Mark Watson wrote: > I also heard among the "classic hits" over the past few days such songs > as "September" by Earth, Wind & Fire, "You Are The Sunshine Of My Life" > by Stevie Wonder and "Sundown" by Gordon Lightfoot. I wonder if music > changes are on the way as well. Not real surprising, this station hasn't seemed to be able to find a niche to call it's own no matter what it does. As far as music selection goes..."classic hits" seems to be a format that no one is really sure what is. Certainly all of the aforementioned songs were hits and are the right era. Nothing says classic hits has to be classic rock lite. From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Jan 11 04:12:51 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Jan 11 04:13:00 2005 Subject: Leveille in for Sullivan (for awhile) Message-ID: <20050111091251.6FAE2398B@mprdmxin.myway.com> Heard WBZ's Steve Leveille say that Paul Sullivan will be undergoing more cancer therapy; so, during the months of Feb. and March, Steve will be filling in for Paul during the 8-midnight slot. When asked who would fill in for _him_(mid-5 am), Leveille said "oh, maybe Jordan Rich once a week; Morgan White Jr, maybe; Dan Pearce, Bradley Jay..." Leveille said there will be newspaper articles (and interviews with Sullivan) about this soon. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Jan 11 17:58:13 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Jan 11 17:58:22 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph Writer on Nashua Radio Message-ID: <20050111225813.2BB36C611D@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> The Nashua Telegraph for January 11th contains an opinion piece on the dreadful state of radio there. Read it at: http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050111/OPINION02/101110004 (Nothing about the possible DEMISE of WSMN) -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Jan 12 03:03:30 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Jan 12 03:04:02 2005 Subject: Subsitites for Leveille Message-ID: <20050112080330.105DD39C4@mprdmxin.myway.com> In addition to the names mentioned, there's Tai...who had done talk for WRKO....may think of some others later. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Jan 12 11:50:31 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Jan 12 11:50:45 2005 Subject: Subsitites for Leveille Message-ID: <20050112165031.F306612DB7@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Tai I always wondered what happened to that guy im a little young(20) but i do remember when i heard him on WRKO Yes, he used to do the 10 pm slot there of course (used to not only do politics but entertainment-related stuff, interviewing comedians or musicians, etc...then got paired up with Marge Clapprood for the morning show before departing first for WZLX, then WROR, IIRC. Or was it vice versa--morning show, _then_ 10 pm... :) ) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From billo@shoreham.net Wed Jan 12 11:55:54 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Jan 12 11:55:59 2005 Subject: Subsitites for Leveille In-Reply-To: <20050112165031.F306612DB7@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20050112165031.F306612DB7@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <41E5569A.9090604@shoreham.net> Bob Nelson wrote: >>>...then got paired up with Marge Clapprood for the >>>morning show before departing first for WZLX, >>> How was _that_ for a match up? Auntie Marge and her boy toy Tai. Brilliant. Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Jan 12 12:07:28 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Jan 12 12:07:40 2005 Subject: Subsitites for Leveille Message-ID: <20050112170728.E290739F0@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>How was _that_ for a match up? Auntie Marge and her boy toy Tai. Brilliant. And the Dean coming in afterwards, IIRC, and complaining about the cigarette smoke in the studios! _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Jan 12 12:09:11 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Jan 12 12:09:23 2005 Subject: Allston Brighton Free Radio closing up shop Message-ID: <20050112170911.882C639F0@mprdmxin.myway.com> Heard that due to a lack of money, Allston Brighton Free Radio is closing down...sad to see it go; I think for awhile ABFR streamcast on the Net but maybe it cost too much or there were rights issues, so it went back to the regular signal only. I checked the website last night and it looked like nobody had touched it since August. Of course there are pirates/unlicensed broadcasters who put out a more powerful signal, till Uncle Charlie catches them at least (just check out the expanded AM band, especially near or in Boston). When you do it legally (part 15 or whatever it's called) your range is very limited. LPFM? Of course, in a big city like Boston there aren't any spots on the dial available for that. Plenty for the boonies or even areas like Newport, RI (which has one at 105.9). The areas that could most use an LPFM signal don't really get any assigned. Some LPFMs might be interesting and diverse the way ABFR was--there's one up in the Lake Champlain Area, WMUD-LP, that seemed interesting and they're trying to put WOOL-LP on in Bellows Falls--and, as I mentioned, the jazzy stuff on 105.9 out of Newport RI. If someone could relaunch ABFR as an LPFM somewhere, who knows. But where, oh where? (And yes we are getting a few LPFMs around here but they're doing stuff like relaying religious stuff from far, far, away...) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Jan 12 12:27:55 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Jan 12 12:28:10 2005 Subject: Globe article on Cahh Talk Message-ID: <20050112172755.D12D63BA0@mprdmxin.myway.com> http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2005/01/12/motor_mouths/ _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Jan 12 12:34:20 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Jan 12 12:34:29 2005 Subject: Franken's in, Howie's out in Brattleboro Message-ID: <20050112173420.472B13A3E@mprdmxin.myway.com> http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050112/NEWS/501120363/1003 BRATTLEBORO — A southern Vermont-based radio station (WKVT) will trade in the rhetoric of Rush Limbaugh and other conservative talk show hosts for the liberal commentary of Air America next week. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From billo@shoreham.net Wed Jan 12 13:07:35 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Jan 12 13:07:45 2005 Subject: Franken's in, Howie's out in Brattleboro In-Reply-To: <20050112173420.472B13A3E@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20050112173420.472B13A3E@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <41E56767.2080702@shoreham.net> Bob Nelson wrote: (as published) >A southern Vermont-based radio station (WKVT) will trade in the rhetoric of Rush Limbaugh and other conservative talk show hosts for the liberal commentary of Air America next week. > I wonder who will be wise enough to scoop-up Limbaugh. Interesting how the piece describes what Limbaugh puts our as "rhetoric" while Franken and the the Not Ready for Prime Time Talkers are all about "commentary." I'm sure there's nothing to that. Nah. With comments rhetorically yours, Bill O'Neill Shoreham, VT transplant from Mass. From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Jan 12 16:41:46 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Jan 12 16:41:59 2005 Subject: Why WRKO Needs The Fybush Tower Calendar Message-ID: <20050112214146.1CE58E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Don't the people running WRKO's technical matters know that it's JANUARY? I just noticed that WRKO did its instantaneous pattern change at FOUR-FIFTEEN. Ooops Gee, does this mean they go to daytime at 7:00? -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From pete@partnercomm.com Wed Jan 12 17:12:46 2005 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Wed Jan 12 17:12:52 2005 Subject: What to do? Message-ID: <41E5A0DE.30500@partnercomm.com> Anyone else thinking that Greater Media might do well to hook up with SBS (or other skilled/experienced Spanish language programmer) and see about flipping WROR or WBOS to Tropical or other Latin programming, as Infinity just did today with 99.1 (WHFS, Annapolis)? I realize I only have access to the 12+ figures, but considering the demographics... -Peter Peter Murray (N3IXY Vienna, VA From rdavisson@neo.rr.com Wed Jan 12 17:48:16 2005 From: rdavisson@neo.rr.com (Tim Davisson) Date: Wed Jan 12 17:49:15 2005 Subject: rhetoric -vs- commentary References: <20050112173420.472B13A3E@mprdmxin.myway.com> <41E56767.2080702@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <002301c4f8f8$ce462d60$29c8d2cc@neo.rr.com> > >Interesting how the piece describes what Limbaugh puts our as "rhetoric" while Franken and the the Not Ready for Prime Time Talkers are all about > "commentary." I'm sure there's nothing to that. Nah.> Indeed. All of these guys, right-wing, left-wing, center-wing...are all about show-business and entertainment and soaked heavily in b.s.! It's the full-of-passion "conservatives" and "liberals" who are getting duped. Hysterical! From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Wed Jan 12 20:22:36 2005 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Wed Jan 12 20:22:44 2005 Subject: What to do? In-Reply-To: <41E5A0DE.30500@partnercomm.com> Message-ID: <20050113012236.59592.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> Spanish programming on FM is only around the corner for major market radio where it isn't. Here in San Francisco, Infinity blew up KKWV 93.3 "The Wave". Music blending from artist such as Pink to Bob Marley. Not sure what the common thread was between these artists to appear on the same station playlist. Appearently not too many others did either. After temporarily simulcasting with sister station San Jose based AC KBAY 94.5, they went Spanish. A month before that, Clear Channel blew up a station doing Classic Rock/AOR for 36 years in favor of an oldies based mexican format just this past fall. To maintain topic with North East radio, blowing up either of the two Greater Media signals that Peter Murray mentioned would make sense. Another logical choice would be 92.5 WXRV in Haverhill. Just my .02cents! Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA --- Peter Murray wrote: > Anyone else thinking that Greater Media might do > well to hook up with > SBS (or other skilled/experienced Spanish language > programmer) and see > about flipping WROR or WBOS to Tropical or other > Latin programming, as > Infinity just did today with 99.1 (WHFS, Annapolis)? > > I realize I only have access to the 12+ figures, but > considering the > demographics... > > -Peter > > Peter Murray (N3IXY > Vienna, VA > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From n1qgs@yahoo.com Wed Jan 12 21:19:52 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed Jan 12 21:19:55 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph Writer on Nashua Radio In-Reply-To: <20050111225813.2BB36C611D@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20050113021952.66866.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> --- Laurence Glavin wrote: > The Nashua Telegraph for January 11th contains an opinion > piece on the dreadful state of radio there. WHOB 106.3 Nashua is now in Hooksett, claims the article, did I miss something here? True there is not much locally originated programing in Nashua, but there is some. The article on quick reading lead me to believe there was zero local programming. There is plenty of local sports on WSNH, the article claims there is not. he French show last I knew, is still on Sunday mornings. If people want to find out about the local fire or weather emergencies and the local broadcast stations isn't reporting these items they can always listen to the fire buff or fire department channels. Remember when a scanner was a radio and not a photo copier. John B Derry From pete@partnercomm.com Wed Jan 12 21:47:47 2005 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Wed Jan 12 21:47:55 2005 Subject: What to do? In-Reply-To: <20050113012236.59592.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050113012236.59592.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41E5E153.2010207@partnercomm.com> The only reason I left 92.5 out of that listing is because it is less 'foundering' than the other two. WXRV has been AAA for quite some time now, and is pretty successful with its intended audience, while WROR and WBOS seem a bit more 'becalmed' - that and as they're operated by a larger operator (Greater Media), and are located more centrally in market #9, they'd have a better chance at hitting more of the intended demographic. Of course.. perhaps 101.7 would be a better choice, as it also covers the Boston metro region far better than does WXRV (particularly on the southern side)... but I (selfishly) wouldn't want to lose 'FNX! -Peter Peter Murray (N3IXY) Vienna, VA Roy Lawrence wrote: >[clipped] >To maintain topic with North East radio, blowing up >either of the two Greater Media signals that Peter >Murray mentioned would make sense. Another logical >choice would be 92.5 WXRV in Haverhill. > >Just my .02cents! > >Roy Lawrence >San Francisco, CA > > From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Jan 12 22:10:47 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Jan 12 22:10:52 2005 Subject: What to do? In-Reply-To: <41E5E153.2010207@partnercomm.com> References: <20050113012236.59592.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> <41E5E153.2010207@partnercomm.com> Message-ID: <200501130310.j0D3Al8j059704@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > The only reason I left 92.5 out of that listing is because it is less > 'foundering' than the other two. WXRV has been AAA for quite some time > now, and is pretty successful with its intended audience, The intended audience, presumably, being the owner of the station, who lives and has a law practice in southern New Hampshire.... -GAWollman From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Wed Jan 12 22:18:52 2005 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Wed Jan 12 22:19:01 2005 Subject: What to do? In-Reply-To: <41E5E153.2010207@partnercomm.com> Message-ID: <20050113031852.37249.qmail@web51307.mail.yahoo.com> I only considered WXRV because of such a large Spanish speaking population in their primary coverage zone. I have been out of the loop on various station success stories from way out here, but glad to see "The River" doing well. There is no doubt someone will make a fortune with Spanish programming. Guess we wait and see who is going to fold first. Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA --- Peter Murray wrote: > The only reason I left 92.5 out of that listing is > because it is less > 'foundering' than the other two. WXRV has been AAA > for quite some time > now, and is pretty successful with its intended > audience, while WROR and > WBOS seem a bit more 'becalmed' - that and as > they're operated by a > larger operator (Greater Media), and are located > more centrally in > market #9, they'd have a better chance at hitting > more of the intended > demographic. > > Of course.. perhaps 101.7 would be a better choice, > as it also covers > the Boston metro region far better than does WXRV > (particularly on the > southern side)... but I (selfishly) wouldn't want to > lose 'FNX! > > -Peter > > Peter Murray (N3IXY) > Vienna, VA > > Roy Lawrence wrote: > > >[clipped] > >To maintain topic with North East radio, blowing up > >either of the two Greater Media signals that Peter > >Murray mentioned would make sense. Another logical > >choice would be 92.5 WXRV in Haverhill. > > > >Just my .02cents! > > > >Roy Lawrence > >San Francisco, CA > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Jan 12 22:36:38 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed Jan 12 22:36:43 2005 Subject: What to do? In-Reply-To: <41E5E153.2010207@partnercomm.com> Message-ID: <200501130336.j0D3adaZ059860@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> > Of course.. perhaps 101.7 would be a better choice, as it also covers > the Boston metro region far better than does WXRV (particularly on the > southern side)... but I (selfishly) wouldn't want to lose 'FNX! WFNX does not really cover the southern part of the market very well due to splatter from WWBB and WCIB. For years, I was never able to listen to WFNX from here in Hanson on any radio, until I got a quality tuner, and rooftop antenna. My vote is for Spanish on neither! They're both very good, live/local stations! Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Jan 12 23:27:37 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Jan 12 23:27:40 2005 Subject: What to do? In-Reply-To: <20050113031852.37249.qmail@web51307.mail.yahoo.com> References: <41E5E153.2010207@partnercomm.com> <20050113031852.37249.qmail@web51307.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200501130427.j0D4RbLY060146@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > There is no doubt someone will make a fortune with > Spanish programming. Guess we wait and see who is > going to fold first. WARNING: infodump ahead... I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for someone (other than the brokered operators currently in the business) to "make a fortune with Spanish programming", in Massachusetts, despite the sizable Spanish-speaking community. Here are the top ten languages for the Boston-Worcester-Lawrence CMSA, which includes the entire area of the Boston-Worcester radio market, as tabulated by the 2000 Census (in the category "language spoken at home"): English 4,450,031 (81.7%) Spanish 312,861 ( 5.7%) (about half the national average) Portuguese 120,090 ( 2.2%) French 93,367 ( 1.7%) Chinese 70,537 ( 1.3%) Italian 55,202 ( 1.0%) French creole 43,373 ( 0.8%) Vietnamese 29,264 ( 0.5%) Greek 29,216 ( 0.5%) Russian 27,636 ( 0.5%) Looked at another way: only about a third of non-English-speakers are Spanish speakers. Given the existence of several stations already in the market which program mostly or entirely in Spanish, it's hard to imagine any format which would be sufficiently lucrative based simply on the Spanish-speaking audience to justify an FM. This is not to say that an FM format could not be built around a Spanish-speaking audience -- but it would also need to appeal to the other 94.3% of the population to have much hope of success. By comparison, the Washington-Baltimore CMSA has 469,343 Spanish-speakers (about 6.6%) and no other language has more than 70,000 native speakers. Other comparisons: Hartford is 8.5% Spanish-speaking, with the next few being Polish (2.1%), French (1.8%), and Italian (1.5%). Philadelphia-Wilmington-South Jersey is more English (the largest ethnic group there is African-American); the numbers are Spanish 5.2%, Italian 0.9%, Chinese 0.7%. Providence is 7.3% Spanish and 6.0% Portuguese; surprisingly, French (2.1%) outpulls Italian (1.1%) there. Springfield is close to the national average at 10.8% Spanish-speakin, with runners-up being Polish (1.7%), French (1.7%), and Portuguese (1.1%). Smaller New England cities tend to be more monolingual; Pittsfield, Portland, and Burlington are all over 90% English-speaking, with the largest minority language in Pittsfield being Spanish (1.5%) and in the other two French (2.2% and 3.1%). -GAWollman From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Wed Jan 12 23:53:14 2005 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Wed Jan 12 23:53:23 2005 Subject: What to do? In-Reply-To: <200501130427.j0D4RbLY060146@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <20050113045314.22725.qmail@web51308.mail.yahoo.com> I'm not campaigning for or against Spanish programming. All I'm saying is that it is appearing on more frequencies around the dial and will continue to, including Boston, like it or not. I am just looking at what's going on around the country. I do not and will not *solely* live by numbers alone. Besides, the income would be what drives the format or do you believe these people have no major disposable income? Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA --- Garrett Wollman wrote: > < Lawrence said: > > > There is no doubt someone will make a fortune with > > Spanish programming. Guess we wait and see who is > > going to fold first. > > WARNING: infodump ahead... > > I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for someone (other > than the brokered > operators currently in the business) to "make a > fortune with Spanish > programming", in Massachusetts, despite the sizable > Spanish-speaking > community. Here are the top ten languages for the > Boston-Worcester-Lawrence CMSA, which includes the > entire area of the > Boston-Worcester radio market, as tabulated by the > 2000 Census (in the > category "language spoken at home"): > > English 4,450,031 (81.7%) > Spanish 312,861 ( 5.7%) (about half the national > average) > Portuguese 120,090 ( 2.2%) > French 93,367 ( 1.7%) > Chinese 70,537 ( 1.3%) > Italian 55,202 ( 1.0%) > French creole 43,373 ( 0.8%) > Vietnamese 29,264 ( 0.5%) > Greek 29,216 ( 0.5%) > Russian 27,636 ( 0.5%) > > Looked at another way: only about a third of > non-English-speakers are > Spanish speakers. Given the existence of several > stations already in > the market which program mostly or entirely in > Spanish, it's hard to > imagine any format which would be sufficiently > lucrative based simply > on the Spanish-speaking audience to justify an FM. > This is not to say > that an FM format could not be built around a > Spanish-speaking > audience -- but it would also need to appeal to the > other 94.3% of the > population to have much hope of success. > > By comparison, the Washington-Baltimore CMSA has > 469,343 > Spanish-speakers (about 6.6%) and no other language > has more than > 70,000 native speakers. Other comparisons: Hartford > is 8.5% > Spanish-speaking, with the next few being Polish > (2.1%), French > (1.8%), and Italian (1.5%). > Philadelphia-Wilmington-South Jersey is > more English (the largest ethnic group there is > African-American); the > numbers are Spanish 5.2%, Italian 0.9%, Chinese > 0.7%. Providence is > 7.3% Spanish and 6.0% Portuguese; surprisingly, > French (2.1%) outpulls > Italian (1.1%) there. Springfield is close to the > national average at > 10.8% Spanish-speakin, with runners-up being Polish > (1.7%), French > (1.7%), and Portuguese (1.1%). > > Smaller New England cities tend to be more > monolingual; Pittsfield, > Portland, and Burlington are all over 90% > English-speaking, with the > largest minority language in Pittsfield being > Spanish (1.5%) and in > the other two French (2.2% and 3.1%). > > -GAWollman > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Jan 13 00:33:09 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Jan 13 00:33:12 2005 Subject: What to do? In-Reply-To: <20050113045314.22725.qmail@web51308.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200501130427.j0D4RbLY060146@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20050113045314.22725.qmail@web51308.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200501130533.j0D5X9gb060601@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > not *solely* live by numbers alone. Besides, the > income would be what drives the format or do you > believe these people have no major disposable income? I believe that "these people" have the same income distribution as other minority groups. But if the Spanish-speaking audience is 5% of the market, what's the percentage in being the fourth Spanish-language station? Particularly when a full-market FM is worth at least $50 million? It does not seem likely to me that a Boston B that gets a 1 rating now would switch formats just for a chance at another 1 rating. I could see a suburban FM doing it, except that we don't really have any in the way that some other markets do. (If Framingham had a commercial A, I could see a bilingual Portuguese/Spanish music format working there. But our only commercial FM is a B with studios in Dorchester and tx on the Pru. 101.7 might make sense as a Lynn/Chelsea/Somerville station, but I'm not holding my breath for Mindich to sell. 95.9 doesn't serve much Hispanic population; 97.7 could if it weren't being programmed for Dorchester and Roxbury.) -GAWollman From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Jan 13 01:06:57 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Jan 13 01:08:04 2005 Subject: What to do? In-Reply-To: <200501130427.j0D4RbLY060146@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <20050113031852.37249.qmail@web51307.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41E5C9B1.26846.6BC9D3@localhost> On 12 Jan 2005 at 23:27, Garrett Wollman wrote: > English 4,450,031 (81.7%) > Spanish 312,861 ( 5.7%) (about half the national average) > Portuguese 120,090 ( 2.2%) > French 93,367 ( 1.7%) > Chinese 70,537 ( 1.3%) > Italian 55,202 ( 1.0%) > French creole 43,373 ( 0.8%) > Vietnamese 29,264 ( 0.5%) > Greek 29,216 ( 0.5%) > Russian 27,636 ( 0.5%) Well, that explains why I don't see the Yiddish newspapers on sale any more. ;-> -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Jan 13 09:37:01 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Jan 13 09:37:04 2005 Subject: Sprint To Compete With XM & Sirius? Message-ID: <200501130937.AA3708158182@mail.ttlc.net> In a NY Times article (1-13-2005) it says Sprint may be ready to deliver commercial-free music (and video) via EV-DO Cell Phone technology. A short quote for scholarly evaluation: "...not expected to unveil details [snip] until later this year, but it is managing to deliver nonstop streaming music (think of the cellphone as commercial-free radio) and good-quality video clips over its second-generation system." From paulranderson@charter.net Thu Jan 13 21:24:55 2005 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Thu Jan 13 21:25:14 2005 Subject: Newspaper article about WGAW Gardner Message-ID: <7A943D2E-65D3-11D9-95D0-0050E4D0384A@charter.net> The Worcester Telegram & Gazette had an article yesterday about the renewed local focus of WGAW Gardner. The station used to be well-respected for its local presence, but over the years, through various out-of-town owners, there's almost no awareness of the station in the area. There are now two local talk shows on WGAW and plans to add more. Paul From tklaundry@juno.com Thu Jan 13 21:41:54 2005 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Thu Jan 13 21:43:24 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio Message-ID: <20050113.214154.1732.4.tklaundry@juno.com> John Bolduc n1qgs@yahoo.com wrote: "If people want to find out about the local fire or weather emergencies and the local broadcast stations isn't reporting these items they can always listen to the fire buff or fire department channels. Remember when a scanner was a radio and not a photo copier". Remember when over the air broadcasters provided local news that included local police, fire and weather emergencies? The same lack of COL commitment that the article in Nashua outlines can be said of Lowell, Lawrence and a number of other communities that used to be served by multiple radio stations. I remember when a scanner had nothing to do with a computer, but I also remember when local radio meant local radio! df From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Fri Jan 14 02:08:11 2005 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Fri Jan 14 02:08:19 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio In-Reply-To: <20050113.214154.1732.4.tklaundry@juno.com> Message-ID: <20050114070811.11849.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> The same could be said for all of York County in Maine. It's the highest populated county in the state and has no radio station of it's own anymore. Each station has moved their studio to Portland, Portsmouth or Dover and as for 92.1 in Sanford, it's now out of state in Lynn, Massachusetts. Talk about a stretch! I'm not certain but I think the same holds true for Lewiston-Auburn and Bath-Brunswick(short of WJTO) :) 2 separately rated markets. Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA --- Dave Faneuf wrote: > John Bolduc n1qgs@yahoo.com wrote: > "If people want to find out about the local fire or > weather emergencies > and > the local broadcast stations isn't reporting these > items they can always > listen to the fire buff or fire department channels. > Remember when a > scanner was a radio and not a photo copier". > > Remember when over the air broadcasters provided > local news that included > local police, fire and weather emergencies? > The same lack of COL commitment that the article in > Nashua outlines can > be said of Lowell, Lawrence and a number of other > communities that used > to be served by multiple radio stations. > I remember when a scanner had nothing to do with a > computer, but I also > remember when local radio meant local radio! > df > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From billo@shoreham.net Fri Jan 14 07:14:01 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Jan 14 07:14:07 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio In-Reply-To: <20050113.214154.1732.4.tklaundry@juno.com> References: <20050113.214154.1732.4.tklaundry@juno.com> Message-ID: <41E7B789.8040005@shoreham.net> >I remember when a scanner had nothing to do with a computer, but I also >remember when local radio meant local radio! >df > > > You are not alone in that. Commitment to the local community is the one thing that a local signal can do more easily tban a regional one. Regionals used to work the challenge of "being local" with size meaning that to serve a larger community meant to try to remain relevant to local listener communities within the market. (Remember live remotes? The occasional local news story, even if it was a kicker?) With niche-everything in aural broadcast entertainment, it remains unclear as to why local signals choose not to seize the opportunity to define what is local and then provide a service to that niche. Seizing on new technologies for being lots of places at the same time in a local should be S.O.P. Bill O'Neill From hykker@grolen.com Thu Jan 13 20:48:09 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Jan 14 07:15:01 2005 Subject: Sprint To Compete With XM & Sirius? In-Reply-To: <200501130937.AA3708158182@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200501130937.AA3708158182@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050113204416.01c15078@pop3.grolen.com> rogerkirk wrote: >In a NY Times article (1-13-2005) it says Sprint may be >ready to deliver commercial-free music (and video) >via EV-DO Cell Phone technology. > >A short quote for scholarly evaluation: > >"...not expected to unveil details [snip] until later this year, but it is >managing to deliver nonstop streaming music (think of the cellphone as >commercial-free radio) and good-quality video clips over its >second-generation system." Call me a hopelessly out of touch old geezer, but I just don't "get" the appeal of cellphone-as-electronic-Swiss-Army-knife. Custom ring tones are annoying enough, now we have to endure tinny but loud music channels too? I can hardly wait. From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Jan 14 08:39:05 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Jan 14 08:39:09 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio Message-ID: <200501140839.AA387580542@mail.ttlc.net> Roy Lawrence opined >The same could be said for all of York County in >Maine. It's the highest populated county in the state >and has no radio station of it's own anymore. Each >station has moved their studio to Portland, Portsmouth >or Dover and as for 92.1 in Sanford, it's now out of >state in Lynn, Massachusetts. Talk about a stretch! Since we all know that the community service requirements have been "relaxed", perhaps the best way to bring it home is to require each station to conspicuously broadcast at specific times during the day a message (not buried like WQSX's Legal ID) that pointedly enumerates precisely how much "local" service the station provides it's community of license which should also be clearly identified. That way the amount of service is not mandated, but at least it's quantified. "This is WXYZ-FM licensed to the community Abracadabra. Our studios are not located in Abracadabra. We devote 1% of our broadcast day to providing local service to the community of Abracadabra." Given sufficient stringency in guidelines for determining service to COL, a good dose of red tape and a very narrow interpretation of the rules, it might be an eye-opener to the residents of a community how little local service they get. Of course, I could also wish for lower taxes and higher income, too! From DSLRPIERCE@peoplepc.com Fri Jan 14 10:57:46 2005 From: DSLRPIERCE@peoplepc.com (Dan Pierce) Date: Fri Jan 14 10:58:04 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio References: <200501140839.AA387580542@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <002c01c4fa51$cae0ed90$8586e904@your6jnhhu0520> Unfortunately, the demise of local radio has more to do with economics than anything else. When I started in the business in 1981 at WCOU-AM/WAYU-FM in Lewiston, Maine small-time local radio operators could afford to hire people at minimum wage ($3.33 per hour at that time) as part-timers and pay $12,000-$20,000 per year for full-timers and still pay for insurance, medical benefits, workers compensation and the like. There was an available pool of people willing to work for such low wages because they saw it as the road to the bigger markets with better pay. By the mid-90s this scenario became less and less workable. The pool of available people willing to work for such low pay shrank while the costs increased. When Congress changed ownership limits there were literally hundreds of stations just limping along and ripe for the picking by the big boys, which is exactly what happened. The lucky small-market owners were able to make a score by selling their properties and get out of a business that was becoming untenable for them. Once the big-time owners took over they began a massive campaign to slash costs using consolidation of facilities and technological innovations in order to radically reduce personnel costs (always the biggest line item of any business budget). The consequence of that process was, of course, the demise of many local radio stations. Of course, some small operators did not get purchased by the big boys, mainly because their properties are considered to be economically unviable. Those stations limp along, changing owners and formats, never able to escape the economic realities that keep them from being profitable. It's a sad tale, but true. I know because I lived through it in a 24 year broadcasting career. Dan Pierce ----- Original Message ----- From: "rogerkirk" To: "Dave Faneuf" ; "Roy Lawrence" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 8:39 AM Subject: Re: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio > Roy Lawrence opined > >The same could be said for all of York County in > >Maine. It's the highest populated county in the state > >and has no radio station of it's own anymore. Each > >station has moved their studio to Portland, Portsmouth > >or Dover and as for 92.1 in Sanford, it's now out of > >state in Lynn, Massachusetts. Talk about a stretch! > > Since we all know that the community service requirements > have been "relaxed", perhaps the best way to bring it home > is to require each station to conspicuously broadcast > at specific times during the day a message (not buried > like WQSX's Legal ID) that pointedly enumerates precisely > how much "local" service the station provides it's community > of license which should also be clearly identified. That way > the amount of service is not mandated, but at least it's > quantified. > > "This is WXYZ-FM licensed to the community Abracadabra. Our > studios are not located in Abracadabra. We devote 1% of > our broadcast day to providing local service to the > community of Abracadabra." > > Given sufficient stringency in guidelines for determining > service to COL, a good dose of red tape and a very narrow > interpretation of the rules, it might be an eye-opener to > the residents of a community how little local service they > get. > > Of course, I could also wish for lower taxes and higher > income, too! > > > > From kwillcox@wnsh.com Fri Jan 14 13:49:59 2005 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (Keating Willcox) Date: Fri Jan 14 13:47:28 2005 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050114134309.02707ec0@mail.comcast.net> I remember hearing WGAW listed for $150,000. I bought it site unseen. We established our Nashua station WMVU as the main studio. It was absolutely derelict. New transmitter, new computer, everything but the sat dish and the tower, totally overgrown, roof leaked, toilet and water pipes had burst. But, we fixed it up and put on some political talk radio. WGAW had made some real money, before FM, but when I got it, it had been a disaster for years. Shelves and shelves of oldies from the 50's, all worn out. And, a very rural population, lots of forests, lots of cows. Not a lot of listeners. Small AM stations are tough to get into the black. What happens is that maintenance and upgrades are delayed, ads start to shrink, finally the bank account is empty. It needed a single, driven general manager who could do a great morning shift on local issues and news, and then spend 10 AM to 8 PM chasing local advertising. I hope the new owners make a better go of it than I did. Best of luck to them. Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Beverly 'playing the best music ever recorded' kwillcox@wnsh.com www.wnsh.com 978-921-1570 FAX 978-468-1954 376 Hale Street, Beverly, MA 01915 From madprof@ix.netcom.com Fri Jan 14 14:05:01 2005 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Fri Jan 14 14:05:07 2005 Subject: Newspaper article about WGAW Gardner References: <7A943D2E-65D3-11D9-95D0-0050E4D0384A@charter.net> Message-ID: <003101c4fa6b$f382d960$d7ed9c04@p133> Since the Worcester T&G site requires signup (cost) (yes, I'm a cheapskate), When a BRI contributor refers to an article, it would be better for BRI members if the contributor included or attached the article, no the link. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Anderson" To: "Boston Radio Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: Newspaper article about WGAW Gardner > The Worcester Telegram & Gazette had an article yesterday about the > renewed local focus of WGAW Gardner. > > > 501120552/1003/NEWSLETTERS03> > From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Jan 14 14:06:02 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Jan 14 14:06:07 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio In-Reply-To: <200501140839.AA387580542@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200501140839.AA387580542@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <200501141906.j0EJ62sZ077297@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > "This is WXYZ-FM licensed to the community Abracadabra. Our > studios are not located in Abracadabra. We devote 1% of > our broadcast day to providing local service to the > community of Abracadabra." The problem is that the FCC seems define "local service" as `irradiating the community with at least X mV/m of electric field at least Y hours per day'. The Commission these days does not seem to be up to enforcing even that (as witness any number of silent stations who haven't lost their licenses because they haven't told the Commission that they were off the air). -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Jan 14 14:11:09 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Jan 14 14:11:17 2005 Subject: Newspaper article about WGAW Gardner In-Reply-To: <003101c4fa6b$f382d960$d7ed9c04@p133> References: <7A943D2E-65D3-11D9-95D0-0050E4D0384A@charter.net> <003101c4fa6b$f382d960$d7ed9c04@p133> Message-ID: <200501141911.j0EJB9L0077367@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Since the Worcester T&G site requires signup (cost) > (yes, I'm a cheapskate), When a BRI contributor refers to an article, > it would be better for BRI members if the contributor included > or attached the article, no the link. No, it would not. This mailing-list permits only *original* contributions. (However, since newspaper URLs often expire fairly quickly, it is better to summarize the content of the article in a few sentences, and add your own comments, than just to post a link with no other explanation.) -GAWollman From billo@shoreham.net Fri Jan 14 18:01:05 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Jan 14 18:01:09 2005 Subject: Sprint To Compete With XM & Sirius? In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050113204416.01c15078@pop3.grolen.com> References: <200501130937.AA3708158182@mail.ttlc.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20050113204416.01c15078@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <41E84F31.9030602@shoreham.net> SteveOrdinetz wrote: > > Call me a hopelessly out of touch old geezer, but I just don't "get" > the appeal of cellphone-as-electronic-Swiss-Army-knife. Okay, your a hopeles... nevermind, you're in good company. I don't get it, either. I've had a cell phone dating back to the day when the Motorola Flipfone was *the* cool phone. Analog, big, clunky, noisy, (but rarely dropped a call!) I've not seen anyone popping open a cold, refreshing ale with their phone just yet, but I'm on guard for it. I could use the shaver feature and the dog hair remover option. Put me down for a basketball inflater/shoe polisher/roaming floor polisher that doubles as a telephone. Bill O'Neill (Not old enough to battle ear hair) From hykker@grolen.com Fri Jan 14 20:08:22 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Jan 14 20:08:11 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio In-Reply-To: <200501140839.AA387580542@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200501140839.AA387580542@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050114200453.01bb7c30@pop3.grolen.com> rogerkirk wrote: >Since we all know that the community service requirements >have been "relaxed", perhaps the best way to bring it home >is to require each station to conspicuously broadcast >at specific times during the day a message (not buried >like WQSX's Legal ID) that pointedly enumerates precisely >how much "local" service the station provides it's community >of license which should also be clearly identified. That way >the amount of service is not mandated, but at least it's >quantified. > >"This is WXYZ-FM licensed to the community Abracadabra. Our >studios are not located in Abracadabra. We devote 1% of >our broadcast day to providing local service to the >community of Abracadabra." But what defines "local service to the community"? That could be debated (and has) ad infinitum and very little consensus would be reached. Should Kiss 108 program to Medford at the expense of greater Boston? Matty doing lost dog reports and interviewing the sewer commissioner...that ought to drive ratings thru the roof. :-/ From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Jan 15 15:08:55 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Jan 15 15:09:03 2005 Subject: Boston Radio Watch Back Message-ID: <20050115200855.DA313C6134@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Some of you may be aware of a site called Boston Radio Watch, which resided at somewhere.com. Somewhere went away when its server failed, so BRW now appears at its own site, appropriately yclept: http://www.bostonradiowatch.com The latest posting, January 15th, ranks various Boston radio personalities. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sat Jan 15 16:08:06 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat Jan 15 16:08:14 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050114200453.01bb7c30@pop3.grolen.com> References: <200501140839.AA387580542@mail.ttlc.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20050114200453.01bb7c30@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <200501152108.j0FL86kn087592@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > But what defines "local service to the community"? That could be debated > (and has) ad infinitum and very little consensus would be reached. Should > Kiss 108 program to Medford at the expense of greater Boston? Matty doing > lost dog reports and interviewing the sewer commissioner...that ought to > drive ratings thru the roof. :-/ I've always felt that a good definition of "local service" for a commercial station would be making spot time available for local businesses and especially local political campaigns. -GAWollman From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Jan 15 16:50:39 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Jan 15 16:50:42 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio References: <200501140839.AA387580542@mail.ttlc.net><6.0.3.0.0.20050114200453.01bb7c30@pop3.grolen.com> <200501152108.j0FL86kn087592@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <000a01c4fb4c$40d56670$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "SteveOrdinetz" Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 4:08 PM Subject: Re: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio > > I've always felt that a good definition of "local service" for a > commercial station would be making spot time available for local > businesses and especially local political campaigns. Nearly all stations will make local spot time available to local businesses if they can afford to pay the rates. One exception might by Bob Bitner's WJTO. As for local political campaigns -- the silly lowest unit rate rules make that tough for many stations. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From rogerkola@aol.com Sat Jan 15 17:08:04 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sat Jan 15 17:07:40 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio References: <200501140839.AA387580542@mail.ttlc.net><6.0.3.0.0.20050114200453.01bb7c30@pop3.grolen.com> <200501152108.j0FL86kn087592@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <001201c4fb4e$b244f120$0200a8c0@teal> My personal Opinion of "Local Service" is; Birthday announcements, School Closings, School and Elderly Lunch Menus, the Police Log from last night, Local (in town) traffic hazards, and local politician Interviews... ;-) Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" > > I've always felt that a good definition of "local service" for a > commercial station would be making spot time available for local > businesses and especially local political campaigns. > > -GAWollman > > From rogerkola@aol.com Sat Jan 15 17:08:10 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sat Jan 15 17:07:45 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio References: <200501140839.AA387580542@mail.ttlc.net><6.0.3.0.0.20050114200453.01bb7c30@pop3.grolen.com> <200501152108.j0FL86kn087592@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <001301c4fb4e$b3bf5c20$0200a8c0@teal> My personal Opinion of "Local Service" is; Birthday announcements, School Closings, School and Elderly Lunch Menus, the Police Log from last night, Local (in town) traffic hazards, and local politician Interviews... ;-) Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" > > I've always felt that a good definition of "local service" for a > commercial station would be making spot time available for local > businesses and especially local political campaigns. > > -GAWollman > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Jan 15 17:33:05 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Jan 15 17:33:07 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio References: <200501140839.AA387580542@mail.ttlc.net><6.0.3.0.0.20050114200453.01bb7c30@pop3.grolen.com><200501152108.j0FL86kn087592@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <001201c4fb4e$b244f120$0200a8c0@teal> Message-ID: <001801c4fb52$2e4636a0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kolakowski" To: "Garrett Wollman" ; "SteveOrdinetz" Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio > My personal Opinion of "Local Service" is; Birthday announcements, School > Closings, School and Elderly Lunch Menus, the Police Log from last night, > Local (in town) traffic hazards, and local politician Interviews... ;-) How many people want to listen to that? From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sat Jan 15 17:36:26 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sat Jan 15 17:36:28 2005 Subject: Star 93.7 Contest Message-ID: <200501151736.AA1144717374@mail.ttlc.net> Thursday Night, I heard a promo for a contest on Star 93.7 that will award the winner an Ultimate Makeover. The rules (http://rope.wqsx-fm.fimc.net/makeover/makeover_rules.pdf) have to be the most complex and onerous I've seen to date. Entries include a "93 words or less" essay on why they want this makeover plus 5 pictures showing specific aspects of their anatomy. All semi-finalists must submit to multiple medical exams & tests - physical & psychological and sign affidavits absolving the Radio Station and Doctors (Sponsors) of allresponsibility. The morning show will call upon listeners to "rate the finalists" Billed as "for entertainment only" and will not affect the outcome of the contest. All entrants agree to their likeness and entry being "made fun of" with no recourse. Actual procedures available may or may not be performed as doctors and station see fit. Total surgery not to exceed $20,000. This sounds like a very expensive and risky ad campaign for the doctors (sponsors), the station and the winner. Comments? From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Jan 15 17:41:30 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Sat Jan 15 17:41:39 2005 Subject: Star 93.7 Contest References: <200501151736.AA1144717374@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <001d01c4fb53$5bb32160$6400a8c0@tony> Hmm, just when you thought "reality" couldn't get any worse ... Over at 'KXL, we are giving away a trip for two anywhere in the lower 48 for dinner. :-) Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net WKXL News 1450 Concord, NH http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "rogerkirk" To: "BRI" Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 5:36 PM Subject: Star 93.7 Contest > Thursday Night, I heard a promo for a contest on > Star 93.7 > that will award the winner an Ultimate Makeover. > The rules > (http://rope.wqsx-fm.fimc.net/makeover/makeover_rules.pdf) > have to be the most complex and onerous I've > seen to date. > > Entries include a "93 words or less" essay on > why they want > this makeover plus 5 pictures showing specific > aspects of > their anatomy. All semi-finalists must submit > to multiple > medical exams & tests - physical & psychological > and sign > affidavits absolving the Radio Station and > Doctors (Sponsors) > of allresponsibility. > > The morning show will call upon listeners to > "rate the finalists" > Billed as "for entertainment only" and will not > affect the outcome > of the contest. All entrants agree to their > likeness and entry being "made fun of" with no > recourse. > > Actual procedures available may or may not be > performed as > doctors and station see fit. Total surgery not > to exceed > $20,000. > > This sounds like a very expensive and risky ad > campaign for > the doctors (sponsors), the station and the > winner. > > Comments? > > > From rogerkola@aol.com Sat Jan 15 17:47:05 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sat Jan 15 17:46:40 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio References: <200501140839.AA387580542@mail.ttlc.net><6.0.3.0.0.20050114200453.01bb7c30@pop3.grolen.com><200501152108.j0FL86kn087592@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu><001201c4fb4e$b244f120$0200a8c0@teal> <001801c4fb52$2e4636a0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <004001c4fb54$23257ae0$0200a8c0@teal> I didn't think the FCC was worried about ratings or "leveling the field" as the Chairman so recently explained regarding the recent decisions on censorship...BTW...you missed the smiley face at the end Dan Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: "Roger Kolakowski" ; "Garrett Wollman" ; "SteveOrdinetz" Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 5:33 PM Subject: Re: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Kolakowski" > To: "Garrett Wollman" ; "SteveOrdinetz" > > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 5:08 PM > Subject: Re: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio > > > > My personal Opinion of "Local Service" is; Birthday announcements, School > > Closings, School and Elderly Lunch Menus, the Police Log from last night, > > Local (in town) traffic hazards, and local politician Interviews... ;-) > > How many people want to listen to that? > > > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Jan 15 17:59:47 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Jan 15 17:59:49 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio References: <200501140839.AA387580542@mail.ttlc.net><6.0.3.0.0.20050114200453.01bb7c30@pop3.grolen.com><200501152108.j0FL86kn087592@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu><001201c4fb4e$b244f120$0200a8c0@teal> <001801c4fb52$2e4636a0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <004001c4fb54$23257ae0$0200a8c0@teal> Message-ID: <002401c4fb55$e921b9b0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kolakowski" To: "Daniel Billings" ; "Garrett Wollman" ; "SteveOrdinetz" Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: Re: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio > > I didn't think the FCC was worried about ratings or "leveling the field" > as > the Chairman so recently explained regarding the recent decisions on > censorship...BTW...you missed the smiley face at the end Dan I did. Sorry about that. Another problem with the old style of local service is most people do not live and work in the same community any more. Most of use live regional lives -- working in one place and community 30 to 60 minutes to another for work. The regional stations fit these patterns of living. I am for getting the FCC out of programming all together. They should be in the business of strictly enforcing technical requirements and the few remaining ownership limits and nothing more. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Jan 15 23:22:58 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Jan 15 23:23:19 2005 Subject: Boston (and NH/RI) Radio hall of fame Message-ID: <20050116042258.643F8397C@mprdmxin.myway.com> thanks to BostonRadioWatch for the link: http://visitingnewengland.com/radio2.html Eric H. of Visiting New England talks about notable air personalities around here, including Loren and Wally, Mike Morin, Dale Dorman, Greg Hill, Paula Street, Howie Carr, Jay Severin, J.J. Wright, Steve Kass, Chuck Nowlin, Paul Sullivan, etc. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From rjoc@webtv.net Sun Jan 16 08:40:26 2005 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Sun Jan 16 08:40:34 2005 Subject: WWNZ-1400 on air Message-ID: <20050116134026.06AE6D689@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> Noticed a local ad during Friday's 20/20 on WVII "ABC7 Bangor" promoting Bangor's NewsTalkradio 1400 WWNZ". Featured promos for Tony Snow show mornings Bill O'Reilly afternoons and Holmes evenings. WWNZ-1400 is co-owned with WNZS-1340 with a separate transmitter and tower about a quarter mile away along Route 178 in Eddington, ME. Will scope out the site better on my next trip to the "big city". I haven't had a chance to listen much, as they barely make it down here to Mount Desert Island. In fact, I get Biddeford's 1400 with Music of Your Life with a much better signal, and somebody else is also on 1400, way underneath the jumble. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine.... From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Jan 16 11:48:18 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Jan 16 11:48:20 2005 Subject: WWNZ-1400 on air References: <20050116134026.06AE6D689@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <001e01c4fbeb$2e3f4040$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod O'Connor" To: Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 8:40 AM Subject: WWNZ-1400 on air > I haven't had a chance to listen much, as they barely make it down here to > Mount Desert Island. In fact, I get Biddeford's 1400 with Music of Your > Life with a much better > signal, and somebody else is also on 1400, way underneath the jumble. There is an AM station in Augusta on 1400. Cumulus simulcasts a nostalgia format on 1400 in Augusta and 1490 in Waterville. I think there used to be other stations in Maine on 1400. AM stations went dark in Farmington, Dover-Foxcroft, and Aroostook County. I think some of these stations were on 1400 and 1490. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From scott@fybush.com Sun Jan 16 11:54:34 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun Jan 16 11:54:44 2005 Subject: WWNZ-1400 on air In-Reply-To: <001e01c4fbeb$2e3f4040$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <20050116134026.06AE6D689@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> <001e01c4fbeb$2e3f4040$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050116115339.02128078@gwind.pair.com> >I think there used to be other stations in Maine on 1400. AM stations >went dark in Farmington, Dover-Foxcroft, and Aroostook County. I think >some of these stations were on 1400 and 1490. Farmington was a daytimer on 1380. Dover-Foxcroft was on 1340, as were Fort Kent and Houlton. Madawaska was on 1230. s From sid.whitaker@unh.edu Sun Jan 16 11:57:05 2005 From: sid.whitaker@unh.edu (Sid Whitaker) Date: Sun Jan 16 11:57:12 2005 Subject: WWNZ-1400 on air In-Reply-To: <001e01c4fbeb$2e3f4040$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <20050116134026.06AE6D689@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> <001e01c4fbeb$2e3f4040$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <1105894625.41ea9ce123cf9@webmail.unh.edu> One that comes to mind is the long-gone 1400 in Machias (WALZ?). I'm guessing WALZ's demise probably opened the door for the 1400 application in the Bangor area... Sid Whitaker Portland, ME Quoting Daniel Billings : > I think there used to be other stations in Maine on 1400. AM stations went > dark in Farmington, Dover-Foxcroft, and Aroostook County. I think some of > these stations were on 1400 and 1490. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Jan 16 12:05:42 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Jan 16 12:05:45 2005 Subject: WWNZ-1400 on air References: <20050116134026.06AE6D689@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> <001e01c4fbeb$2e3f4040$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <6.0.1.1.0.20050116115339.02128078@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <002701c4fbed$9d0ccfe0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Daniel Billings" ; "Rod O'Connor" ; Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:54 AM Subject: Re: WWNZ-1400 on air > Farmington was a daytimer on 1380. Dover-Foxcroft was on 1340, as were > Fort Kent and Houlton. Madawaska was on 1230. It was the old Machias AM that I was thinking about. It was on 1400. From billo@shoreham.net Sun Jan 16 12:25:48 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Jan 16 12:25:52 2005 Subject: Nashua Telegraph writer on Nashua Radio In-Reply-To: <200501152108.j0FL86kn087592@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200501140839.AA387580542@mail.ttlc.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20050114200453.01bb7c30@pop3.grolen.com> <200501152108.j0FL86kn087592@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <41EAA39C.90900@shoreham.net> Garrett Wollman wrote: >I've always felt that a good definition of "local service" for a >commercial station would be making spot time available for local >businesses and especially local political campaigns. > >-GAWollman > > > A local station that lacks local spots could explain it away as due to insufficient "spot time" or avails. Or... they may want to consider that if they have nothing to offer the local community, that advertisers may wish to save their money for other media. Advertisers don't make a station local. Local stations can attract advertisers. And "numbers" need not be a factor since word of mouth, business associations and local presence in good will efforts can for a basis for success. Bill O'Neill From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jan 16 14:21:10 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Jan 16 14:21:48 2005 Subject: WWNZ-1400 on air References: <20050116134026.06AE6D689@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net><001e01c4fbeb$2e3f4040$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <6.0.1.1.0.20050116115339.02128078@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <001201c4fc00$a3e4d8e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> WBME Belfast was on 1230 also. Before WBME, there was a 1230 in Bangor, WGUY (for Guy Gannett), which changed its COL to Brewer, moved to 1250, and became a 5-kW daytimer. Wasn't this station the one that eventually moved to 1200 and even later became WNSW before being sold to Fairbanks and taken dark in the by-now at least 15-year-long battle to upgrade WKOX? And what about Calais (WQDY)? Wasn't that also on 1230? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Daniel Billings" ; "Rod O'Connor" ; Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:54 AM Subject: Re: WWNZ-1400 on air > > >I think there used to be other stations in Maine on 1400. AM stations > >went dark in Farmington, Dover-Foxcroft, and Aroostook County. I think > >some of these stations were on 1400 and 1490. > > Farmington was a daytimer on 1380. Dover-Foxcroft was on 1340, as were Fort > Kent and Houlton. Madawaska was on 1230. > > s > From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Jan 16 14:26:27 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Jan 16 14:26:29 2005 Subject: WWNZ-1400 on air References: <20050116134026.06AE6D689@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <004301c4fc01$461cdcc0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Does anyone know how the new AM in the Bangor market has been doing as far as gaining listeners and advertisers? It is interesting to see someone putting AM stations on the air in an area where AMs have been going dark for 20 years. From scott@fybush.com Sun Jan 16 14:30:50 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun Jan 16 14:30:57 2005 Subject: WWNZ-1400 on air In-Reply-To: <001201c4fc00$a3e4d8e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20050116134026.06AE6D689@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> <001e01c4fbeb$2e3f4040$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <6.0.1.1.0.20050116115339.02128078@gwind.pair.com> <001201c4fc00$a3e4d8e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050116142900.021d31a8@gwind.pair.com> At 02:21 PM 1/16/2005, Dan Strassberg wrote: >WBME Belfast was on 1230 also. Before WBME, there was a 1230 in Bangor, WGUY >(for Guy Gannett), which changed its COL to Brewer, moved to 1250, and >became a 5-kW daytimer. Wasn't this station the one that eventually moved to >1200 and even later became WNSW before being sold to Fairbanks and taken >dark in the by-now at least 15-year-long battle to upgrade WKOX? And what >about Calais (WQDY)? Wasn't that also on 1230? Yes, yes, yes and yes. WGUY moved to 1250 sometime in the sixties, I believe, clearing the way for WBME to sign on. WBME was gone by the early nineties, and 1200 in Brewer didn't last much longer. Both were silent by 1995 at the very latest. WQDY endured until just last year, when it went silent to prevent an ownership-limit problem when its owner added the 102.9 signal to his existing WQDY AM-FM. (And WALZ-FM in Machias, too.) s From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Jan 16 14:31:24 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Jan 16 14:31:33 2005 Subject: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) Message-ID: <20050116193124.D759FCA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> A few weeks ago, I received a phone call while watching "Wall $treet Week w. Fortune" on a Friday night on channel 2 in Boston. No problemo, I'll just catch the rerun on NH Public Television, channel 11 and view just the portion I missed. But then I noticed a funny thing: the "underwriting" message before the show for Northeast Credit Union seemed awfully long and detailed for a public broadcasting show. So today (09/16) I taped the intro to "W$W w F" and then copied down the text of what the channel 11 announcer said. First of all, the message was slightlly longer than 20 seconds total, and contained three visuals, while the following message was aired: "Let Northeast be your financial superhero, bringing you not only the traditional services of a financial institution, but products like OUR quick-close home equity and GenGold checking. Chances are you're eligible to be a member of Northeast. Information is available at 1-888-436-1847." (End of message; I capitalized the word 'our'.) This seemed rather lengthy and detailed for an underwriting message, and the visuals (in slide format rather than moving video) included more advertsing-style info like the web address, and a youngster in a superhero outfit reinforcing the "superhero" slogan for the firm. The only thing it lacked was the guy from Empire Carpet saying "and you get a free gift!" followed by the Modernaires singing the phone number. Wow... this seemed to me to have all the earmarks of a traditional commercial...from this description, do you think it crossed over the line? -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From miscon@miscon.net Sun Jan 16 14:45:58 2005 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Sun Jan 16 14:46:03 2005 Subject: Public Radio in the Sunday "funnies" Message-ID: <200501161445.AA96403768@miscon.net> Hi all... Well, first let me tell you that I'm currently in Naperville, IL with Mom, having just come back from Watervliet, MI where my younger brother (Steve) died last Friday (1/7) in an ATV accident. He had just turned 42 the week prior. I will not dwell on it here, yet I cannot adequately express the shock and devistation this has wrought on our family... my apologies for bringing it up here, but there a few on this list that know me, and should be aware of the situation I suppose... However, the *real* reason I'm dropping this note is that the program I work on - The World - made it on the pop-culture scene today (Sunday, 1.16) thanks to Darby Conley's "Get Fuzzy" comic strip: http://www.comics.com/comics/getfuzzy/index.html (if you read this on any day other than Sunday January 16, you might need to navigate a little to get to it) I've always enjoyed his work and it brought the first real no-strings-attached laugh out of me in a week... followed closely by the next three responses: 1) geez, someone *does* listen to the show! 2) holy crap! I've got to tell my co-workers! 3) wait, do you think anyone outside the office will really get the punchline? Anyway, hope you're all doing well... Mike oh yah, some other public radio program called ATC is mentioned in the strip... don't know if I've ever heard it though... heheh From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jan 16 15:50:39 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Jan 16 15:50:43 2005 Subject: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) References: <20050116193124.D759FCA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <001601c4fc0d$0ecce560$19eefea9@dstrassberg> As far as I can tell, WGBH stopped carrying W$WwF effective 1/7/2005. NOW (without Bill Moyers but with David Brancaccio) still begins at 8:00, but now runs only 1/2 hour. Washington Week runs from 8:30 to 9:00 PM. Tucker Carlson is on from 9:00 to 9:30 PM. Beat the Press reruns are on from 9:30 to 10:00 PM. Since I watch Beat the Press from 7:00 to 7:30 PM (before the Yelling Program with Eleanor Clift--the only one of those turkeys who has anything worthwhile to say), and I think Carlson is a waste of time, I now turn the TV off at 9:00 PM. If W$WwF is on after that, I have not seen any promos for it and I certainly haven't seen it for two weeks. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) > A few weeks ago, I received a phone call while watching "Wall $treet > Week w. Fortune" on a Friday night on channel 2 in Boston. No > problemo, I'll just catch the rerun on NH Public Television, channel > 11 and view just the portion I missed. But then I noticed a funny > thing: the "underwriting" message before the show for Northeast > Credit Union seemed awfully long and detailed for a public broadcasting > show. So today (09/16) I taped the intro to "W$W w F" and then > copied down the text of what the channel 11 announcer said. > First of all, the message was slightlly longer than 20 seconds > total, and contained three visuals, while the following message > was aired: > "Let Northeast be your financial superhero, bringing you not only > the traditional services of a financial institution, but > products like OUR quick-close home equity and GenGold checking. > Chances are you're eligible to be a member of Northeast. > Information is available at 1-888-436-1847." (End of message; > I capitalized the word 'our'.) > This seemed rather lengthy and detailed for an underwriting > message, and the visuals (in slide format rather than > moving video) included more advertsing-style info like > the web address, and a youngster in a superhero outfit > reinforcing the "superhero" slogan for the firm. > The only thing it lacked was the guy from Empire > Carpet saying "and you get a free gift!" followed > by the Modernaires singing the phone number. Wow... > this seemed to me to have all the earmarks of a traditional > commercial...from this description, do you think it > crossed over the line? > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 > > From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Jan 16 16:09:37 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Jan 16 16:09:44 2005 Subject: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) Message-ID: <20050116210937.4A4BFC610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Dan Strassberg" >To: "Laurence Glavin" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Re: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) >Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:50:39 -0500 > As far as I can tell, WGBH stopped carrying W$WwF effective 1/7/2005. NOW > (without Bill Moyers but with David Brancaccio) still begins at 8:00, but > now runs only 1/2 hour. Washington Week runs from 8:30 to 9:00 PM. Tucker > Carlson is on from 9:00 to 9:30 PM. Beat the Press reruns are on from 9:30 > to 10:00 PM. Since I watch Beat the Press from 7:00 to 7:30 PM (before the > Yelling Program with Eleanor Clift--the only one of those turkeys who has > anything worthwhile to say), and I think Carlson is a waste of time, I now > turn the TV off at 9:00 PM. If W$WwF is on after that, I have not seen any > promos for it and I certainly haven't seen it. No, "Wall $street Week w. Fortune" continues to be broadcast by channel 2 on Fridays at 10:30 pm. It follows the Wall Street Journal's editorial board program scheduled at 10:00 pm. The repeat of "Beat the Press" in the middle of channel 2's must-see parade of talking-head shows is the result of the removal of Gordon Peterson's "Inside Washington" from the schedule. In DC itself, Gordon was let go by the syndicator, WUSA-TV channel 9. He immediately hooked up with WJLA-TV channel 7, and a reconstituted "Inside Washington" is now on their schedule. I don't know if it's been made available to other markets yet, commercial or public, but if it is, it should go somewhere in the Friday night lineup. And yes, I have sent WGBH-TV an email to that effect! -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Jan 16 16:17:47 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Jan 16 16:17:54 2005 Subject: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) In-Reply-To: <20050116210937.4A4BFC610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050116210937.4A4BFC610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <200501162117.j0GLHlHB096421@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > No, "Wall $street Week w. Fortune" continues to be broadcast by > channel 2 on Fridays at 10:30 pm. I would note, by the way, that "Louis Rukeyser's Wall Street" ended its production run on December 31 at Rukeyser's request; he announced in August that he will not be returning to TV, although his (probably more lucrative) newsletter and cruise business continues. -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jan 16 16:25:31 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Jan 16 16:25:30 2005 Subject: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) References: <20050116210937.4A4BFC610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> <200501162117.j0GLHlHB096421@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <002a01c4fc11$ec52a7e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I heard that Rukeyser is very ill (cancer, I think) and doesn't have long to live. Don't know where I heard it, so it may or may not be true. If true, however, the rumor means that we won't hear much of anything from him in a short while. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Laurence Glavin" Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: Re: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) > < said: > > > No, "Wall $street Week w. Fortune" continues to be broadcast by > > channel 2 on Fridays at 10:30 pm. > > I would note, by the way, that "Louis Rukeyser's Wall Street" ended > its production run on December 31 at Rukeyser's request; he announced > in August that he will not be returning to TV, although his (probably > more lucrative) newsletter and cruise business continues. > > -GAWollman > From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Jan 16 16:30:05 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Jan 16 16:30:12 2005 Subject: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) Message-ID: <20050116213005.3086ACA095@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Garrett Wollman" >To: "Laurence Glavin" >Subject: Re: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) >Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:17:47 -0500 (EST) > > < said: > > > No, "Wall $street Week w. Fortune" continues to be broadcast by > > channel 2 on Fridays at 10:30 pm. > > I would note, by the way, that "Louis Rukeyser's Wall Street" ended > its production run on December 31 at Rukeyser's request; he announced > in August that he will not be returning to TV, although his (probably > more lucrative) newsletter and cruise business continues. > > -GAWollman That's assuming his health will allow such activities. I keep a close eye on all matters media, and I haven't read or heard a word about how Louis is getting along, not even from CNBC. BTW, several months ago, Consuela Mack made an interesting career move: she quit the commercial "Wall Street Journal Report" (as opposed to the one on PBS), to host the "Wall Street Week with(out) Louis Rukeyser" on CNBC. Maria Bartiromo took over her old job. Now Consuela is idle, while Maria gets pretty interesting guests on her show, presumably just for the opportunity to take a message to Maria! -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Jan 16 16:33:09 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Jan 16 16:33:16 2005 Subject: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) Message-ID: <20050116213309.A6313CA095@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Dan Strassberg" >To: "Garrett Wollman" , "Laurence Glavin" >Subject: Re: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) >Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:25:31 -0500 > > I heard that Rukeyser is very ill (cancer, I think) and doesn't have long to > live. Don't know where I heard it, so it may or may not be true. If true, > however, the rumor means that we won't hear much of anything from him in a > short while. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > Yikes...there goes gene theory! His father lived well into his 90's. Maybe Lou liked to live it up on his cruises and his body rebelled. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jan 16 16:33:40 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Jan 16 16:33:41 2005 Subject: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) References: <20050116210937.4A4BFC610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <002f01c4fc13$107b22e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I can't say that I think much of GBH's programming decisions. They should have left Beat the Press at 10:30, W$WwF at 10:00, MAYBE moved Carlson to 9:00, and inserted the WSJ program at 9:30. That way, they wouldn't be turning away the viewers who had already watched Beat the Press until 10:30. Washington Week would still be sandwiched between Brancaccio and Carlson and would be followed by an hour of talk related to business and finance from 9:30 to 10:30. Frasnkly, I think it would be even better to move Washington Week back to 8:00 PM, when PBS transmits it, and follow it with Brancaccio at 8:30 and Carlson at 9:00. That would be a rather rational schedule, although other permutations might make even more sense. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Dan Strassberg" ; Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: Re: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) > >From: "Dan Strassberg" > >To: "Laurence Glavin" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > >Subject: Re: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) > >Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:50:39 -0500 > > > As far as I can tell, WGBH stopped carrying W$WwF effective 1/7/2005. NOW > > (without Bill Moyers but with David Brancaccio) still begins at 8:00, but > > now runs only 1/2 hour. Washington Week runs from 8:30 to 9:00 PM. Tucker > > Carlson is on from 9:00 to 9:30 PM. Beat the Press reruns are on from 9:30 > > to 10:00 PM. Since I watch Beat the Press from 7:00 to 7:30 PM (before the > > Yelling Program with Eleanor Clift--the only one of those turkeys who has > > anything worthwhile to say), and I think Carlson is a waste of time, I now > > turn the TV off at 9:00 PM. If W$WwF is on after that, I have not seen any > > promos for it and I certainly haven't seen it. > > No, "Wall $street Week w. Fortune" continues to be broadcast by > channel 2 on Fridays at 10:30 pm. It follows the Wall Street > Journal's editorial board program scheduled at 10:00 pm. > The repeat of "Beat the Press" in the middle of channel 2's > must-see parade of talking-head shows is the result of the > removal of Gordon Peterson's "Inside Washington" from the > schedule. In DC itself, Gordon was let go by the syndicator, > WUSA-TV channel 9. He immediately hooked up with WJLA-TV channel > 7, and a reconstituted "Inside Washington" is now on their > schedule. I don't know if it's been made available to > other markets yet, commercial or public, but if it is, it should > go somewhere in the Friday night lineup. And yes, I have sent > WGBH-TV an email to that effect! > -- > _______________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 > > From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Jan 16 16:43:46 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Jan 16 16:43:53 2005 Subject: My Favorite Media Tidbit So Far This Year Message-ID: <20050116214346.7296886B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Every December 25th, New York City's WPIX-TV, channel 11, broadcasts some logs burning in a fireplace (these are forest-type logs, not radio or TV station logs). The New York Times's Sunday edition for last week reported that this telecast, running from 8:00 am thru noon, was the highest rated program in NYC for its time period, outdoing even "Today" on channel 4! Truth often trumps fiction. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From ka1mvk@hotmail.com Sun Jan 16 16:58:00 2005 From: ka1mvk@hotmail.com (Andy Soule) Date: Sun Jan 16 17:02:28 2005 Subject: My Favorite Media Tidbit So Far This Year References: <20050116214346.7296886B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: No big Surprise there. I'd rather watch mayonaise go bad, than Katie Couric. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:43 PM Subject: My Favorite Media Tidbit So Far This Year > Every December 25th, New York City's WPIX-TV, channel 11, broadcasts some > logs > burning in a fireplace (these are forest-type logs, not radio or TV > station logs). The New York Times's Sunday edition for last week reported > that this telecast, running from 8:00 am thru noon, was the highest > rated program in NYC for its time period, outdoing even "Today" on > channel 4! Truth often trumps fiction. > -- > _______________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 > > > > From mlaurence@mindspring.com Sun Jan 16 17:13:57 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sun Jan 16 17:14:00 2005 Subject: My Favorite Media Tidbit So Far This Year In-Reply-To: References: <20050116214346.7296886B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: On Jan 16, 2005, at 4:58 PM, Andy Soule wrote: > No big Surprise there. > > I'd rather watch mayonaise go bad, than Katie Couric. Christmas was on a Saturday this year, and even if it wasn't, I'm sure Katie would not have been scheduled to work Christmas morning. But it takes a little bite out of the Yule Log victory when you realize it was only up against the B team on Saturday Today. Mark From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Jan 16 17:19:09 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Jan 16 17:19:13 2005 Subject: My Favorite Media Tidbit So Far This Year In-Reply-To: References: <20050116214346.7296886B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <200501162219.j0GMJ9ZE096976@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> And now, this public-service announcement.... < ----- Original Message ----- [21 lines of pointless quotation deleted] Please observe good netiquette on this list. In particular, quotations go *before* and not after your words, and should be edited down to the bare minimum necessary to establish the context of your comment. For those of you whose mail clients make this too difficult (why are you still using them?), my advice would be that it is better not to quote at all than to quote to excess. We now return to your regularly-scheduled discussion. -GAWollman From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Jan 16 17:36:31 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Jan 16 17:36:33 2005 Subject: Springer Message-ID: <007b01c4fc1b$d37456b0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> I heard on CNN that Jerry Springer is starting a new radio show and hopes to be the liberal Limbaugh! Finally someone who represents true liberal values! Has anyone heard if any stations in New England are picking up the show? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Jan 16 19:04:50 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Jan 16 19:05:41 2005 Subject: Springer In-Reply-To: <007b01c4fc1b$d37456b0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050116190325.02db3978@pop.registeredsite.com> Daniel Billings wrote: >I heard on CNN that Jerry Springer is starting a new radio show and hopes >to be the liberal Limbaugh! Finally someone who represents true liberal >values! Umm, and what, do tell me, are "true liberal values"? I know liberals who teach Sunday School, don't smoke or drink or do drugs, etc. I also know conservatives (can you say Rush Limbaugh) who just divorced wife #3 and who have been known to, shall we say, use certain substances... so what's your point? From billo@shoreham.net Sun Jan 16 20:00:53 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Jan 16 20:00:58 2005 Subject: Springer In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050116190325.02db3978@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050116190325.02db3978@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <41EB0E45.2050608@shoreham.net> Donna Halper wrote: > Umm, and what, do tell me, are "true liberal values"? I know liberals > who teach Sunday School, don't smoke or drink or do drugs, etc. I > also know conservatives (can you say Rush Limbaugh) who just divorced > wife #3 and who have been known to, shall we say, use certain > substances... so what's your point? > Hold on! Need to pop the Orville Reddenbacher. Radio. It's red hot. Bill O'Neill From tklaundry@juno.com Mon Jan 17 01:02:12 2005 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Mon Jan 17 01:04:08 2005 Subject: NPR Sunday "Funnies" Message-ID: <20050117.010213.1740.1.tklaundry@juno.com> Mike you have no idea how much I grieve for you and your family. We were in a similar place a couple of years ago. Since this is the "Boston" radio dot org group, here is a Boston based funny from Saturday. http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/arlonjanis/archive/arlonjanis-20050115. html df From oldradio@earthlink.net Mon Jan 17 13:44:42 2005 From: oldradio@earthlink.net (RBB) Date: Mon Jan 17 13:44:42 2005 Subject: Dick Tucker Message-ID: <015a01c4fcc4$9bd47c40$0a0110ac@S0031698896> For those of you who may remember Dick Tucker from his announcing career with WBZ and WBZ-TV for decades, as well as on other Boston stations, he's back broadcasting from Boston...now on the Internet. He hosts "Classical Stream" one of the audio streaming stations at www.broadcast.bostonpete.com - there's a link to email him a message or hear his legendary voice on Windows Media Player-10. =Russ Butler oldradio@earthlink.net From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Jan 17 16:54:08 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Jan 17 16:54:23 2005 Subject: WKVT 1490 site Message-ID: <20050117215408.CB8A83964@mprdmxin.myway.com> Now that they've gone Air America (and similar-type shows), WKVT am's site is changed to http://www.1490wkvt.com It does list the new schedule and has a forum --not much action there yet; was wondering if anyone would be praising or zinging them for the change. Then again, if you go to the WKVT-FM site and click onto "am 1490" you get the OLD site (wkvtam.com) which still says "Rush, Howie Carr", etc. Someone will get around to changing it eventually, I am sure. Though I'm guessing they're probably mentioning the new site on air (I live 100 mi. away so I wouldn't know) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From scott@fybush.com Mon Jan 17 17:25:52 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Jan 17 17:24:44 2005 Subject: Attention Salem... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050117172310.02df7360@gwind.pair.com> The company with a predilection for bringing back/keeping historic callsigns on AM (WFIL, for instance) might want to note that the WCOP calls just disappeared on Friday from the religious station in Unadilla GA where they'd been living. It's now WQSA - and the WCOP calls are available for reassignment, say, to 1150 in Boston...and wouldn't THAT be nifty? :-) s From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Jan 17 18:27:10 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Jan 17 18:28:05 2005 Subject: Attention Salem... In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050117172310.02df7360@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <41EC037E.29727.4302F70@localhost> On 17 Jan 2005 at 17:25, Scott Fybush wrote: > The company with a predilection for bringing back/keeping historic > callsigns on AM (WFIL, for instance) might want to note that the WCOP > calls just disappeared on Friday from the religious station in > Unadilla GA where they'd been living. It's now WQSA - and the WCOP > calls are available for reassignment, say, to 1150 in Boston...and > wouldn't THAT be nifty? :-) It would. Do people from that company read this forum? Is there some other way to let them know? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Jan 17 19:57:59 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon Jan 17 19:58:21 2005 Subject: Attention Salem... References: <5.1.0.14.0.20050117172310.02df7360@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <001601c4fcf8$c67100c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Niftier than WNFT (which would be only a little bit nifty) ;>) -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 5:25 PM Subject: Attention Salem... > the WCOP calls are available for > reassignment, say, to 1150 in Boston...and wouldn't THAT be nifty? :-) From Kaimbridge@programmer.net Tue Jan 18 16:00:55 2005 From: Kaimbridge@programmer.net (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Tue Jan 18 16:01:08 2005 Subject: MKI's Being Naughty Message-ID: <41ED7907.4EFE17CB@Programmer.Net> Well, you knew it had to happen sooner or later: Someone left IBOC-AM on in the overnight! P=/ In this case it was (is?) Disney's Mickey, WMKI-1.260, which was noted with IBOC sideband roar, from at least 22:40 last night! ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From gary@garysicecream.com Tue Jan 18 16:17:13 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Tue Jan 18 16:17:23 2005 Subject: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal Message-ID: <004201c4fda3$14974110$6500a8c0@office> During the day it is VERY noticeable when WBZ has their IBOC carrier turned on - an annoying rushing sound is under all their audio. How can they think that this is an improvement to their signal!?! Every time I hear it - I just hit the button for another station. g From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Jan 18 16:22:14 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Jan 18 16:22:18 2005 Subject: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal In-Reply-To: <004201c4fda3$14974110$6500a8c0@office> References: <004201c4fda3$14974110$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: <200501182122.j0ILMEXa015627@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > During the day it is VERY noticeable when WBZ has their IBOC carrier turned > on - an annoying rushing sound is under all their audio. How can they think > that this is an improvement to their signal!?! The IBOC sidebands are transmitted in quadrature, so it's invisible to envelope detectors. Only people with synchronous detectors hear it. -GAWollman From gary@garysicecream.com Tue Jan 18 16:24:41 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Tue Jan 18 16:24:49 2005 Subject: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal References: <004201c4fda3$14974110$6500a8c0@office> <200501182122.j0ILMEXa015627@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <004901c4fda4$1f623450$6500a8c0@office> I'm hearing the noise on a regular Am car radio. g ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "gic" Cc: "Boston radio e-mail list" Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:22 PM Subject: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal > < said: > >> During the day it is VERY noticeable when WBZ has their IBOC carrier >> turned >> on - an annoying rushing sound is under all their audio. How can they >> think >> that this is an improvement to their signal!?! > > The IBOC sidebands are transmitted in quadrature, so it's invisible to > envelope detectors. Only people with synchronous detectors hear it. > > -GAWollman > From sven@gordsven.com Tue Jan 18 16:35:38 2005 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Tue Jan 18 16:35:46 2005 Subject: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal In-Reply-To: <200501182122.j0ILMEXa015627@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <004201c4fda3$14974110$6500a8c0@office> <200501182122.j0ILMEXa015627@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Garrett Wollman wrote: > The IBOC sidebands are transmitted in quadrature, so it's invisible to > envelope detectors. Only people with synchronous detectors hear it. English please? And what radios have "envelope detectors"? -- steph From mlaurence@mindspring.com Tue Jan 18 16:36:48 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Tue Jan 18 16:37:03 2005 Subject: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal Message-ID: <15425838.1106084208818.JavaMail.root@wamui09.slb.atl.earthlink.net> If I have WBZ tuned in slightly off center on my cheap clock radio, I hear them switch over at 9 AM. The signal turns to nearly pure white noise. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Garrett Wollman The IBOC sidebands are transmitted in quadrature, so it's invisible to envelope detectors. Only people with synchronous detectors hear it. From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Jan 18 16:43:05 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Jan 18 16:43:09 2005 Subject: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal In-Reply-To: References: <004201c4fda3$14974110$6500a8c0@office> <200501182122.j0ILMEXa015627@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <200501182143.j0ILh5a4016086@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> The IBOC sidebands are transmitted in quadrature, so it's invisible to >> envelope detectors. Only people with synchronous detectors hear it. > English please? And what radios have "envelope detectors"? Almost all radios have envelope detectors (or some variation thereupon). The IBOC sidebands are transmitted 180 degrees out-of-phase, superimposed on the upper and lower analog sidebands of an AM station. An envelope detector will sum the two sidebands, cancelling out the IBOC; a synchronous detector in most cases is tuned to only one sideband (doesn't have to be, but that's the normal application seen in, e.g., the Sony ICF-2010). -GAWollman From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue Jan 18 17:02:04 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue Jan 18 17:02:13 2005 Subject: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002601c4fda9$588ca850$c3ec33d1@alvin> Don't they work for the post office? Ask Bob Nelson... Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Stephanie Weil > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:36 PM > To: Garrett Wollman > Cc: Boston radio e-mail list > Subject: Re: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal > > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > The IBOC sidebands are transmitted in quadrature, so it's > invisible to > > envelope detectors. Only people with synchronous detectors hear it. > > English please? And what radios have "envelope detectors"? > > -- > steph > From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue Jan 18 17:03:19 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue Jan 18 17:03:26 2005 Subject: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal In-Reply-To: <15425838.1106084208818.JavaMail.root@wamui09.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002b01c4fda9$85d1b530$c3ec33d1@alvin> > > If I have WBZ tuned in slightly off center on my cheap clock > radio, I hear them switch over at 9 AM. The signal turns to > nearly pure white noise. > Taken any messages from the dead off of it? From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Jan 18 17:04:17 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue Jan 18 17:03:45 2005 Subject: NHPTV "Underwriting" Message (Or Commercial?) In-Reply-To: <20050116193124.D759FCA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: On 1/16/05 2:31 PM, "Laurence Glavin" wrote: > ... the "underwriting" message before the show for Northeast > Credit Union seemed awfully long and detailed for a public broadcasting > show. So today (09/16) I taped the intro to "W$W w F" and then > copied down the text of what the channel 11 announcer said. > First of all, the message was slightlly longer than 20 seconds > total, and contained three visuals, while the following message > was aired: > "Let Northeast be your financial superhero, bringing you not only > the traditional services of a financial institution, but > products like OUR quick-close home equity and GenGold checking. > Chances are you're eligible to be a member of Northeast. > Information is available at 1-888-436-1847." As far as I know, the only thing questionable about this may be the "Let Northeast be..." part, which could be constituted as a "call to action". Non-commercial underwriting announcements can not actively urge someone to patronize, purchase, or attend anything for profit. They can objectively describe the service, item, or event, but not urge someone to take action. I think that describing their services offered, even with their "name branding" of those services, is allowed as long as they don't include any qualifying value judgments of those services. In other words, they can't say things like "Our Quick-Close is the best home equity", or "Our GenGold is the greatest checking". Qualifiers and judgments of quality are not allowed. Claiming that they're part of being your alleged "financial superhero" is, I think, possibly vague enough and distanced enough from the descriptions of the services themselves to perhaps be legally meaningless in this context. Maybe that also lets the "Let Northeast be..." part off the hook, since "Let Northeast be your financial superhero" is a "call to action", but being "your financial superhero" doesn't actually specify anything really tangible. "Chances are you're eligible to be a member..." is still not worded as a direct "call to action" urging someone to become one. It's OK to give phone numbers and websites as long as there is no "call to action". In other words, they can say "more information is available at..." but they can't say "for more information, call... (or visit...)". Urging someone to take action to call a number or visit a website is not legal. > This seemed rather lengthy and detailed for an underwriting > message, and the visuals (in slide format rather than > moving video) included more advertsing-style info like > the web address, and a youngster in a superhero outfit > reinforcing the "superhero" slogan for the firm. > > ...this seemed to me to have all the earmarks of a traditional > commercial...from this description, do you think it > crossed over the line? I may not be correct because I'm more familiar with these regulations regarding radio than for television, but as far as I know, I don't think there are any limitations on styles and content of graphics, as long as there are no direct violations contained in those graphics of the rules regarding qualifying judgments and calls to action. Flashing the web address is OK as long as it doesn't say "visit..." before it, and a kid in a superhero outfit is most likely too vague to be challenged as a qualifying judgment of any specific services offered. Of course, these things often tend to walk the line as closely as possible... Eli Polonsky From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Jan 18 17:14:03 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Jan 18 17:14:50 2005 Subject: MKI's Being Naughty Message-ID: <20050118221403.18D2DC6136@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" >To: "B-R-I" >Subject: MKI's Being Naughty >Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:00:55 +0000 > > Well, you knew it had to happen sooner or later: Someone left > IBOC-AM on in the overnight! P=/ > In this case it was (is?) Disney's Mickey, WMKI-1.260, which was > noted with IBOC sideband roar, from at least 22:40 last night! > > ~Kaimbridge~ > Maybe they failed to go to nighttime DA; if so, a lot of 1260's have reason to complain. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Jan 18 18:07:32 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Jan 18 18:07:39 2005 Subject: IBOC Not Huting WBZ's Ratings Message-ID: <20050118230732.717223384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> The Fall Arbitrons(tm) have just been posted to radioandrecords .com, and any protestations that IBOC has made WBZ-AM "unlistenable" have been made invalid by the station's numbers! Naturellement (a little French lingo) I won't use precise numbers, but I will note that the Goliath of Metro Boston not only maintained its dominance, but gained a full point over the Summer! The absence of hockey and the demise of its most popular talk-show host mattered not. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Jan 18 18:16:18 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Jan 18 18:16:27 2005 Subject: Air America's Impact Hard To Read Message-ID: <20050118231618.0B6C63384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Well, the Fall Arbitrons for Boston are out, and one question many are asking: how's Air America doing? Well, the WXKS-AM half saw a noticeable decline over the Oct-Nov-Dec period, buy WKOX-AM moved up. Arbitron isn't doing its job: it correctly describes WKOX as "talk", but lists WXKS-AM as "standards". And their usual practice is to combine simulcasts as one station. AM 1430 and 1200 are listed separately. In a week, the two outlets will add over an hour of broadcast time in key dayparts wherein they'll be utilizing more favorable transmitting elements. It will be interesting to see how they do once DST arrives. Also on the talk front, WTKK-FM moved ahead of WRKO-AM in the 12-and-over number. A lot of that must be Jay Severin-driven. I like Imus occasionally, but I'll bet he's not getting 96.9 big numbers, and someone at radio-info.com/Boston is complaining about Barnicle continuing to "mail it in", even playing oldies, as if Boston didn't have enough oldies signals already! -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From sid@wrko.com Tue Jan 18 18:29:30 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue Jan 18 18:30:03 2005 Subject: Air America's Impact Hard To Read Message-ID: >>Arbitron isn't doing its job: it correctly describes WKOX as "talk", but lists WXKS-AM as "standards". And their usual practice is to combine simulcasts as one station. AM 1430 and 1200 are listed separately.<< Wrong. Arbitron is doing its job just fine, thank you. The stations, however, are not doing theirs. Station information submitted to Arbitron as to format, hours of operation and simulcast arrangements are the sole means Arbitron has of getting this information. They do not monitor the stations themselves, since they do not have the manpower to do so. Whatever they are told by representatives of the stations is what goes into the ratings reports. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Jan 18 18:38:54 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue Jan 18 18:39:04 2005 Subject: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal In-Reply-To: <200501182143.j0ILh5a4016086@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <004201c4fda3$14974110$6500a8c0@office> <200501182122.j0ILMEXa015627@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <200501182143.j0ILh5a4016086@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050118183535.01f39e38@mail.mac.com> At 04:43 PM 1/18/2005, Garrett Wollman wrote: >Almost all radios have envelope detectors (or some variation >thereupon). > >The IBOC sidebands are transmitted 180 degrees out-of-phase, >superimposed on the upper and lower analog sidebands of an AM >station. An envelope detector will sum the two sidebands, cancelling >out the IBOC But, if the radio is not perfectly tuned to the stations, won't the sidebands be unequal in level, leading to incomplete cancellation? Also, should the I.F. bandpass of the radio be not perfectly symmetrical, won't the same thing happen? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Jan 18 19:00:20 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Jan 18 19:00:25 2005 Subject: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050118183535.01f39e38@mail.mac.com> References: <004201c4fda3$14974110$6500a8c0@office> <200501182122.j0ILMEXa015627@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <200501182143.j0ILh5a4016086@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <6.2.0.14.2.20050118183535.01f39e38@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <200501190000.j0J00KBr017492@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > But, if the radio is not perfectly tuned to the stations, won't the > sidebands be unequal in level, leading to incomplete cancellation? Doesn't everyone have digital tuners now? > Also, should the I.F. bandpass of the radio be not perfectly > symmetrical, won't the same thing happen? Ask Ibiquity if they care. -GAWollman From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Jan 18 20:18:15 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue Jan 18 20:18:23 2005 Subject: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal In-Reply-To: <200501190000.j0J00KBr017492@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <004201c4fda3$14974110$6500a8c0@office> <200501182122.j0ILMEXa015627@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <200501182143.j0ILh5a4016086@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <6.2.0.14.2.20050118183535.01f39e38@mail.mac.com> <200501190000.j0J00KBr017492@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050118201633.05be8200@mail.mac.com> At 07:00 PM 1/18/05, Garrett Wollman wrote: >< said: > > > But, if the radio is not perfectly tuned to the stations, won't the > > sidebands be unequal in level, leading to incomplete cancellation? > >Doesn't everyone have digital tuners now? Yea, and you wonder how accurate the frequency is in a $9.95 digital walkman? > > Also, should the I.F. bandpass of the radio be not perfectly > > symmetrical, won't the same thing happen? > >Ask Ibiquity if they care. Touche! >-GAWollman Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From mlaurence@mindspring.com Tue Jan 18 20:18:56 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Tue Jan 18 20:19:03 2005 Subject: Air America's Impact Hard To Read In-Reply-To: <20050118231618.0B6C63384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050118231618.0B6C63384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1731C546-69B8-11D9-8AF4-000393D13824@mindspring.com> On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Well, the Fall Arbitrons for Boston are out, and one question > many are asking: how's Air America doing? Well, the WXKS-AM > half saw a noticeable decline over the Oct-Nov-Dec period, > buy WKOX-AM moved up. Check the TSL. It is huge for both stations. The challenge for Boston's New Progressive Talk Radio Network* is to get the word out that it exists. They're running ads on taxi-tops and in the Phoenix, so maybe that will have an impact. The impressive audience satisfaction should help Clear Channel develop some patience for long-term results. I also noticed they've started streaming their local signal online at http://bostonsnewtalk.com . *It's not Air America programming from 9 AM to noon, and from 3 to 6 PM, but they sure could use a better name. Mark From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Jan 18 20:49:16 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Jan 18 20:49:20 2005 Subject: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050118201633.05be8200@mail.mac.com> References: <004201c4fda3$14974110$6500a8c0@office> <200501182122.j0ILMEXa015627@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <200501182143.j0ILh5a4016086@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <6.2.0.14.2.20050118183535.01f39e38@mail.mac.com> <200501190000.j0J00KBr017492@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <6.2.0.14.2.20050118201633.05be8200@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <200501190149.j0J1nGwN018152@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > At 07:00 PM 1/18/05, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> < said: >> > Also, should the I.F. bandpass of the radio be not perfectly >> > symmetrical, won't the same thing happen? >> >> Ask Ibiquity if they care. > Touche! That wasn't entirely in jest. All the stuff I've seen about the IBOC AM system and receiver quality boils down to "yes, this could happen to some people, but that audience is not commercially significant". -GAWollman From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Jan 18 21:44:57 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue Jan 18 21:28:50 2005 Subject: Attention Salem... In-Reply-To: <41EC037E.29727.4302F70@localhost> Message-ID: On 1/17/05 6:27 PM, "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: > On 17 Jan 2005 at 17:25, Scott Fybush wrote: > >> The company with a predilection for bringing back/keeping historic >> callsigns on AM (WFIL, for instance) might want to note that the WCOP >> calls just disappeared on Friday from the religious station in >> Unadilla GA where they'd been living. It's now WQSA - and the WCOP >> calls are available for reassignment, say, to 1150 in Boston...and >> wouldn't THAT be nifty? :-) > > It would. Do people from that company read this forum? Is there some > other way to let them know? Why would Salem be interested in spending effort, time and whatever money is involved on the bureaucracy of doing that? The programming currently on 1150 has nothing to do with any of the formats ever on the old WCOP, and even if a relatively small number of listeners may remember the calls, I'm sure that switching to them wouldn't increase their revenues any nowadays. Salem is a national Christian company which runs either religious formats (such as on their 590 WEZE and 950 WROL), or conservative political talk stations couched in pseudo-religious platitudes, such as their WTTT 1150. I remember the old WCOP as being Top 40 and then Country. I doubt Salem would have any interest in either of those for 1150. Eli Polonsky From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Jan 18 22:10:22 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue Jan 18 21:53:57 2005 Subject: Has anyone else noticed WBZ's unlistenable signal In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050118201633.05be8200@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: I don't know about the quadrature/phasing situation, but it appears to me that if you listen to an IBOC AM station on an AM receiver with wide enough bandwidth and higher than usual frequency response, the IBOC noise is horrendous. On the "wideband" AM stereo receivers manufactured in the 80's and 90's the IBOC noise is quite loud even if listening in "wideband" mono. I've also heard a lot of it on certain older AM mono radios that just happen to have higher frequency response than today's. The frequency response (for conventional analog broadcasts) of most of today's newest digital tuning AM receivers seems more limited than ever, the high end seems to be notched out above about 2K. Of course, they're completely deaf to any IBOC hiss. They also all sound to me as if the speakers are under pillows. I've seen late model car stereos where it makes no difference on AM where you adjust the treble control, the frequencies which the control affects are above the range that the AM tuner is putting out! On 1/18/05 8:18 PM, "Larry Weil" wrote: > Yea, and you wonder how accurate the frequency is in a $9.95 digital > walkman? That can depend on how strong the batteries are. When the batteries start to wear down in my Sony, the stations drift one digital notch up on the dial. In other words, stations come in better tuned one notch up the dial from where they should be, until I put new batteries in it. Then they're back where they belong (or at least fairly close). Eli Polonsky From Dfaneuf@WBUR.BU.EDU Tue Jan 18 23:24:05 2005 From: Dfaneuf@WBUR.BU.EDU (Dave Faneuf) Date: Tue Jan 18 23:23:45 2005 Subject: Arbitron Boston Message-ID: <41ED9A93.31769.F06B1C@localhost> I just looked over the 12+ numbers as posted through AllAccess and I question how they can even pretend to give a remotely accurate read on what the Boston market is doing. Nope, not questioning any rankings, what I find absolutely astounding is the racial breakdown. 0 as in ZERO Asians! Pretty amazing given the Asian population of Greater Boston... df From Dfaneuf@WBUR.BU.EDU Tue Jan 18 23:25:32 2005 From: Dfaneuf@WBUR.BU.EDU (Dave Faneuf) Date: Tue Jan 18 23:25:19 2005 Subject: Arbitron Boston follow up Message-ID: <41ED9AEB.26571.F1C0A1@localhost> Arbitron doesn't think there are any Asians in San Francisco either. df From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Jan 18 23:34:35 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue Jan 18 23:33:45 2005 Subject: Arbitron Boston follow up In-Reply-To: <41ED9AEB.26571.F1C0A1@localhost> Message-ID: <200501190433.j0J4XgaZ019238@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> > Arbitron doesn't think there are any > Asians in San Francisco either. > df It looks like they're just showing 2 minority groups for each market. I seem to remember there being more before the re-design of radioandrecords.com. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From scott@fybush.com Wed Jan 19 00:26:41 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Jan 19 00:26:47 2005 Subject: Attention Salem... In-Reply-To: References: <41EC037E.29727.4302F70@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050119002418.020ca280@gwind.pair.com> >Salem is a national Christian company which runs either religious >formats (such as on their 590 WEZE and 950 WROL), or conservative >political talk stations couched in pseudo-religious platitudes, such >as their WTTT 1150. > >I remember the old WCOP as being Top 40 and then Country. I doubt >Salem would have any interest in either of those for 1150. All that being true...the fact remains that Salem has, for whatever reason, a passion for restoring historic callsigns to its AM stations whenever possible (and getting close where it can't do better, such as installing KKOL on the 1300 Seattle that was once KOL.) So it's not at all out of the question that they'd want to replace a meaningless call such as WTTT with a heritage call like WCOP - and believe me, for them the $55 filing fee is a drop in the bucket. s From madprof@ix.netcom.com Wed Jan 19 04:23:52 2005 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Wed Jan 19 11:24:12 2005 Subject: Attention Salem... WTTT..Scott References: <41EC037E.29727.4302F70@localhost> <6.0.1.1.0.20050119002418.020ca280@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <007601c4fe08$981f5440$f1f39c04@p133> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" > meaningless call such as WTTT ah, Scott, forgive me for being a bit of a wiseguy(?): from my college days at UMass Amherst, WTTT (Amherst) (now WPNI) had great significance for me: it was the first directional pattern I learned how to plot! Yes, I've gotten much more complex since, but it will always be "my first". (can you recognize a math / engineering nerd?) Seriously, the whole legacy calls concept means a lot to me, such as WPTR in Albany area. I do resent that "WMEX" got scarffed (stolen) by non-Boston area. at least "WNLC" New London still exists, even as only FM Bob From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Jan 19 17:32:24 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Jan 19 17:32:32 2005 Subject: Air America's Impact Hard To Read Message-ID: <20050119223224.16C87C610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Sid Schweiger" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Re: Air America's Impact Hard To Read >Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:29:30 -0700 > > >> Arbitron isn't doing its job: it correctly describes WKOX as "talk", > but lists WXKS-AM as "standards". And their usual practice is to > combine simulcasts as one station. AM 1430 and 1200 are listed > separately.<< > > Wrong. Arbitron is doing its job just fine, thank you. The stations, > however, are not doing theirs. > > Station information submitted to Arbitron as to format, hours of > operation and simulcast arrangements are the sole means Arbitron has of > getting this information. They do not monitor the stations themselves, > since they do not have the manpower to do so. Whatever they are told by > representatives of the stations is what goes into the ratings reports. > > > > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC > WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > Boston MA 02135-2040 > Phone: 617-779-5369 > Fax: 617-779-5379 > E-Mail: sid@wrko.com Since I'm registered with their message board, I sent a message telling them to contact Arbitron post haste. Time will tell if they're acting on my suggestion. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Jan 19 18:14:18 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Jan 19 18:14:30 2005 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <20050119231418.75EDE3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Jan 19 18:20:46 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Jan 19 18:20:55 2005 Subject: Kendall Buhl Doing Traffic On WBZ-AM Message-ID: <20050119232046.1EC5D3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Over the past weekend, I noticed that Kendall Buhl, fairly long-time newscaster on WBOQ-FM, was doing traffic on WBZ-AM. I thought he was moonlighting to put a few more dineros in his pocket. Now I hear him during weekdays. Is he off WBOQ then? If so, this would be the second castoff from the station. Westport Communications recently bought WNBP-AM; is money now tight? -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Jan 19 18:24:39 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Jan 19 18:24:46 2005 Subject: Doug Stephan's Empire Shrinks By One Message-ID: <20050119232439.59AA13384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> A few weeks ago, WBIX-AM began running Doug Stephan's morning show, making it the second outlet in Metrowest to air the sunrise snoozer. Concord-Mass-based WBNW was also running it. No more. Now WBNW is offering a satellite-fed morning business info program that seems to be more repetitious than the typical business show. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Jan 20 00:03:33 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Jan 20 00:03:57 2005 Subject: Attention Salem... WTTT..Scott Message-ID: <41EEF555.18277.9477AF@localhost> On 19 Jan 2005 at 4:23, Robert F. Sutherland wrote: > Seriously, the whole legacy calls concept means a lot to me, > such as WPTR in Albany area. I do resent that "WMEX" got scarffed > (stolen) by non-Boston area. at least "WNLC" New London still > exists, even as only FM So if Salem changes 1150 back to WCOP, then WPNI could, if it wished, go back to being WTTT -- though I don't see it happening any time soon. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 19:47:17 2005 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Thu Jan 20 19:47:25 2005 Subject: Arbitron Boston follow up In-Reply-To: <41ED9AEB.26571.F1C0A1@localhost> Message-ID: <20050121004717.14812.qmail@web51303.mail.yahoo.com> --- Dave Faneuf wrote: > Arbitron doesn't think there are any > Asians in San Francisco either. > df No Asians in San Francisco? Wow, that's news to me. Those Arbitron folks are due for a visit to the "City by the Bay"! Asians in San Francisco alone make up 30.84% of the population. Nevermind Oakland, San Jose and all the surrounding communties. The largest portion of that is 23.23% with 25-34 years old and 17.23% representing 35-44 year olds. Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From markwats@comcast.net Thu Jan 20 22:00:15 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Jan 20 22:00:27 2005 Subject: Kendall Buhl Doing Traffic On WBZ-AM References: <20050119232046.1EC5D3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <009601c4ff65$573caaf0$6f918318@Mark> Laurence Glavin wrote: > Over the past weekend, I noticed that Kendall Buhl, fairly > long-time newscaster on WBOQ-FM, was doing traffic on WBZ-AM. > I thought he was moonlighting to put a few more dineros in his > pocket. Now I hear him during weekdays. Is he off WBOQ then? He's been gone from WBOQ for several months. He was doing mornings, then exited and was replaced by Bill Wightman who didn't stay there too long. And WBOQ has found Wightman's replacement. Today's Boston Globe reports that Larry Burnham will take over the WBOQ morning show as of this coming Monday. Most recently Burnham was the midday "Traffic on the 3's " reporter on WBZ, so it appears that Kendall Buhl has replaced Larry Burnham. Mark Watson From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Fri Jan 21 00:47:43 2005 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Fri Jan 21 00:47:51 2005 Subject: WABC 770 off air Friday morning Message-ID: <20050121054743.3380.qmail@web52605.mail.yahoo.com> It is now 12:36 AM Friday morning, and I just noticed a posting to a New York City radio board that WABC 770 was off the air. So I went out to my car, tuned the radio to 770, and WABC was indeed off the air. Underneath some splash from WBBM (780) and WJR?? (760), I was able to make out a station playing spanish music, and then a little battle ensued with another very weak station that was airing what sounded like a spanish talk format. Any ideas what these stations are that I was hearing? How unusual to hear a frequency like 770 AM silent a mere 75 miles north of NYC proper Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Jan 21 03:49:12 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Jan 21 03:49:21 2005 Subject: Herald: B.U. tuning up to take control of WBUR Message-ID: <20050121084912.EA7C839F2@mprdmxin.myway.com> from yesterday's Herald (business section), by Dean Johnson. Auntie Donna is quoted. http://business.bostonherald.com/realestateNews/view.bg?articleid=64364 A consulting report is due next month for WBUR, and word has it the station will lose much of its autonomy (the school will work closer with them). _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Jan 21 11:13:31 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri Jan 21 11:12:37 2005 Subject: CNN reports Powell prepared to resign from FCC Message-ID: <000d01c4ffd4$28e89fa0$0200a8c0@teal> Now here is a little ditty that will sadden almost everybody...not http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/21/news/newsmakers/powell_resigning/ I wonder if it's the mess he's made of the obscenity rules, the mess he's made of the ownership rules, the fact that he doesn't want to regulate satellite (though IMHO he can't) or just because his dad doesn't work for the government anymore? Roger WA1KAT From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri Jan 21 10:58:17 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Fri Jan 21 11:13:11 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? Message-ID: <001b01c4ffd2$0604a800$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> A bulletin from AllAccess "An editorial in the WALL STREET JOURNAL reports that MICHAEL POWELL will resign his Chairmanship of the FCC TODAY." From sid@wrko.com Fri Jan 21 11:24:05 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri Jan 21 11:24:41 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? Message-ID: >>"An editorial in the WALL STREET JOURNAL reports that MICHAEL POWELL will resign his Chairmanship of the FCC TODAY."<< Confirmed just after OOB by an FCC press officer. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Jan 21 12:00:36 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri Jan 21 11:59:56 2005 Subject: CNN reports Powell prepared to resign from FCC References: <000d01c4ffd4$28e89fa0$0200a8c0@teal> Message-ID: <000a01c4ffda$ba999fc0$0200a8c0@teal> Oh...in my tears I forgot IBOC and BPL... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kolakowski" To: Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:13 AM Subject: CNN reports Powell prepared to resign from FCC > Now here is a little ditty that will sadden almost everybody...not > > http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/21/news/newsmakers/powell_resigning/ > > I wonder if it's the mess he's made of the obscenity rules, the mess he's > made of the ownership rules, the fact that he doesn't want to regulate > satellite (though IMHO he can't) or just because his dad doesn't work for > the government anymore? > > Roger > WA1KAT > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Jan 21 13:09:19 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Jan 21 13:09:55 2005 Subject: Michael Powell Resigns!!! Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050121130912.02a4cfd0@pop.registeredsite.com> Wow... I wonder if the president will appoint somebody whose emphasis isn't just on going after 'dirty words' and who will re-visit media consolidation... but probably not... From billo@shoreham.net Fri Jan 21 13:38:43 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Jan 21 13:38:49 2005 Subject: Michael Powell Resigns!!! In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050121130912.02a4cfd0@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050121130912.02a4cfd0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <41F14C33.8090408@shoreham.net> Donna Halper wrote: > Wow... I wonder if the president will appoint somebody whose emphasis > isn't just on going after 'dirty words' and who will re-visit media > consolidation... but probably not... > > I hear Colin is available. "My daddy is Uncle Charlie..." Bill O'Neill From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Jan 21 15:23:20 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Jan 21 15:23:24 2005 Subject: Michael Powell Resigns!!! Message-ID: <200501211523.AA1103036652@mail.ttlc.net> Donna Halper wrote >...I wonder if the president will appoint somebody who will >re-visit media consolidation... Careful what you wish for. Given the Bush Administration/Republican Party's ever so slight bias toward business interests, I can see all ownership restrictions lifted and elimination of time & money wasting efforts like licensing and engineering and legal IDs - allowing companies to be more cost-effective and efficient. From mixer@zoso.net Fri Jan 21 18:51:17 2005 From: mixer@zoso.net (Jeremy Mixer) Date: Fri Jan 21 18:50:42 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Sid Schweiger wrote: >>> "An editorial in the WALL STREET JOURNAL reports that MICHAEL POWELL > will resign his Chairmanship of the FCC TODAY."<< > > Confirmed just after OOB by an FCC press officer. Two words: THANK GOD :) Jeremy From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Jan 21 19:47:55 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Jan 21 19:47:59 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? References: Message-ID: <004c01c5001c$03589b30$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Isn't it the FCC's job to enforce the laws as passed by Congress? Didn't Congress vote to liberalize the ownership limits? Aren't their laws passed by Congress that call for the FCC to regulate indecency in broadcasting? What has Powell done that is inconsistent with these laws? By the way -- I favor eliminating all government oversight of broadcast content but do not blame Powell for enforcing the laws which the FCC is tasked to enforce. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Jan 21 20:27:07 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri Jan 21 20:27:37 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? References: <004c01c5001c$03589b30$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <002d01c50021$7d44aa60$0200a8c0@teal> He never set specific standards (i.e.; the seven banned words) and basically stated that " I don't know if it's obscene until I hear it" ....that's why "Private Ryan" and many other bleeped out network offerings exemplify the LACK OF Leadership Powell has exhibited during his tenure... One policy he seemed to endorse was: Interference should be no reason to limit new technology. Example: Second channel adjacent hash allowed on IBOC during DA just limits the opportunity for other local stations to operate. WBZ and WMKI use FIVE channels during daylight hours! BPL has not met the technical test for non-interference or non-radiation, but HAS BEEN APPROVED past the testing phase. The guy is a politician, not acquainted with RF requirements, capabilities or local needs. Good riddence, get us a communications/RF guy in there! Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: "Jeremy Mixer" ; "Sid Schweiger" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Michael Powell to resign? > Isn't it the FCC's job to enforce the laws as passed by Congress? Didn't > Congress vote to liberalize the ownership limits? Aren't their laws passed > by Congress that call for the FCC to regulate indecency in broadcasting? > What has Powell done that is inconsistent with these laws? > > By the way -- I favor eliminating all government oversight of broadcast > content but do not blame Powell for enforcing the laws which the FCC is > tasked to enforce. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > > From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Jan 21 20:27:24 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri Jan 21 20:27:50 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? References: <004c01c5001c$03589b30$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <002e01c50021$875a73e0$0200a8c0@teal> He never set specific standards (i.e.; the seven banned words) and basically stated that " I don't know if it's obscene until I hear it" ....that's why "Private Ryan" and many other bleeped out network offerings exemplify the LACK OF Leadership Powell has exhibited during his tenure... One policy he seemed to endorse was: Interference should be no reason to limit new technology. Example: Second channel adjacent hash allowed on IBOC during DA just limits the opportunity for other local stations to operate. WBZ and WMKI use FIVE channels during daylight hours! BPL has not met the technical test for non-interference or non-radiation, but HAS BEEN APPROVED past the testing phase. The guy is a politician, not acquainted with RF requirements, capabilities or local needs. Good riddence, get us a communications/RF guy in there! Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: "Jeremy Mixer" ; "Sid Schweiger" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Michael Powell to resign? > Isn't it the FCC's job to enforce the laws as passed by Congress? Didn't > Congress vote to liberalize the ownership limits? Aren't their laws passed > by Congress that call for the FCC to regulate indecency in broadcasting? > What has Powell done that is inconsistent with these laws? > > By the way -- I favor eliminating all government oversight of broadcast > content but do not blame Powell for enforcing the laws which the FCC is > tasked to enforce. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Jan 21 20:33:06 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Jan 21 20:33:21 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? References: <004c01c5001c$03589b30$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <002d01c50021$7d44aa60$0200a8c0@teal> Message-ID: <005601c50022$52e22e90$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kolakowski" To: "Daniel Billings" ; "Jeremy Mixer" ; "Sid Schweiger" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:27 PM Subject: Re: Michael Powell to resign? > He never set specific standards (i.e.; the seven banned words) and > basically > stated that " I don't know if it's obscene until I hear it" ....that's why > "Private Ryan" and many other bleeped out network offerings exemplify the > LACK OF Leadership Powell has exhibited during his tenure... What content anywhere close to the grey area has resulted in FCC action? Did anyone ever have any doubt that simulated sex acts during prime-time, the f-word during prime-time, or flashing a breast during teh Super Bowl would result in FCC action? From mamros@MIT.EDU Fri Jan 21 22:07:09 2005 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Fri Jan 21 22:07:15 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:27:07 EST." <002d01c50021$7d44aa60$0200a8c0@teal> Message-ID: <200501220307.j0M379Ji020656@department-of-alchemy.mit.edu> >Good riddence, get us a communications/RF guy in there! As if there's a snowball's chance in h-e-double-toothpicks of that happening. Given the state of presidential appointees these days, I fully expect the next commissioner to be just as bad, if not worse. -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From rogerkola@aol.com Sat Jan 22 00:05:05 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sat Jan 22 00:04:26 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? References: <004c01c5001c$03589b30$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af><002d01c50021$7d44aa60$0200a8c0@teal> <005601c50022$52e22e90$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000c01c5003f$f073fcc0$0200a8c0@teal> Dan... You have to admit that the airwaves have been a mess for a year ...personally, I think the networks and the franchises set Powell up for a fall....they pushed the conservative envelope until the "public" began to notice...."bleeps", "selective censorship", and talk show ridicule (Letterman, Leno, Stern et all)...pushed the public and the administration to look for a lower profile for an agency that hasn't been in the news until this century.... We know they exist....they don't... Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: "Roger Kolakowski" ; "Jeremy Mixer" ; "Sid Schweiger" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:33 PM Subject: Re: Michael Powell to resign? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Kolakowski" > To: "Daniel Billings" ; "Jeremy Mixer" > ; "Sid Schweiger" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: Michael Powell to resign? > > > > He never set specific standards (i.e.; the seven banned words) and > > basically > > stated that " I don't know if it's obscene until I hear it" ....that's why > > "Private Ryan" and many other bleeped out network offerings exemplify the > > LACK OF Leadership Powell has exhibited during his tenure... > > What content anywhere close to the grey area has resulted in FCC action? > Did anyone ever have any doubt that simulated sex acts during prime-time, > the f-word during prime-time, or flashing a breast during teh Super Bowl > would result in FCC action? > > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Jan 22 00:07:14 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Jan 22 00:07:18 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? References: <004c01c5001c$03589b30$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af><002d01c50021$7d44aa60$0200a8c0@teal> <005601c50022$52e22e90$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <000c01c5003f$f073fcc0$0200a8c0@teal> Message-ID: <007c01c50040$3d132920$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kolakowski" To: "Daniel Billings" ; "Jeremy Mixer" ; "Sid Schweiger" Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Michael Powell to resign? > You have to admit that the airwaves have been a mess for a year > ...personally, I think the networks and the franchises set Powell up for a > fall....they pushed the conservative envelope until the "public" began to > notice...."bleeps", "selective censorship", and talk show ridicule > (Letterman, Leno, Stern et all)... All that is the fault of the networks, not the FCC. The indecency cases that have been filed by the FCC have not been ones in the grey area. Did anyone think they would get away with saying the f-word on an awards show or showing a breast during half-time at the Super Bowl? Stuff like that would have always resulted in FCC action. Most of the stuff that has caused Stern to be fined was also pretty clear cut. And the fines against Stern go back to Clinton's FCC. From mixer@zoso.net Sat Jan 22 03:51:48 2005 From: mixer@zoso.net (Jeremy Mixer) Date: Sat Jan 22 03:51:10 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? In-Reply-To: <004c01c5001c$03589b30$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <004c01c5001c$03589b30$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: You are correct there, I am not arguing with that. What I do not approve of is an FCC chairman who tries to push to lighten up ownership rules even more than they are now. THIS is where I had a problem. I will also say that it certainly SEEMED that the FCC was being a lot more picky about the regulations....I forget the name of the movie as it is late- but how many ABC stations were too scared to broacast the movie that has been shown on ABC several times before? The FCC is there to maintain rules of broadcasting, not to scare everyone. Jeremy On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Daniel Billings wrote: > Isn't it the FCC's job to enforce the laws as passed by Congress? Didn't > Congress vote to liberalize the ownership limits? Aren't their laws passed > by Congress that call for the FCC to regulate indecency in broadcasting? What > has Powell done that is inconsistent with these laws? > > By the way -- I favor eliminating all government oversight of broadcast > content but do not blame Powell for enforcing the laws which the FCC is > tasked to enforce. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > WKIT- http://www.zoneradio.com/wkit Zoso.net - http://www.zoso.net "The Home of FBO" Led Zeppelin FAQL- http://mixer8930.tripod.com/faql.txt ******************************************************** Quote of the week/month/whatever: "I am merely endeavouring to being the grain of sand in other beings' oyster" -Paul Kantner via 2400Fulton From Kaimbridge@programmer.net Sat Jan 22 09:42:57 2005 From: Kaimbridge@programmer.net (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Sat Jan 22 09:43:13 2005 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Michael Powell to resign? Message-ID: <41F26671.5366D28E@Programmer.Net> Roger Kolakowski wrote, > He never set specific standards (i.e.; the seven banned words) > and basically stated that " I don't know if it's obscene until > I hear it" ....that's why "Private Ryan" and many other bleeped > out network offerings exemplify the LACK OF Leadership Powell > has exhibited during his tenure... Speaking of which, I don't know who else here caught it, but the other day that new Bush inauguration musical cartoon satire was in the news and NBC's "Today" aired most of it, including the river scene with the sign "Welcome to Sh--(leaf hanging down where the "i" should be)--t's Creek", right around 7:30(?)am, during breakfast time! What, you mean that shouldn't get the FCC in a tither? ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Jan 22 09:49:56 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Jan 22 09:50:08 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? References: <004c01c5001c$03589b30$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000701c50091$a52d6240$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Mixer" To: "Daniel Billings" Cc: "Sid Schweiger" ; Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 3:51 AM Subject: Re: Michael Powell to resign? > I will also say that it certainly SEEMED that the FCC was being a lot more > picky about the regulations....I forget the name of the movie as it is > late- but how many ABC stations were too scared to broacast the movie that > has been shown on ABC several times before? The FCC is there to maintain > rules of broadcasting, not to scare everyone. So the FCC is to blame when station owners act like idiots? Note that the movie was only dropped by a handful of stations and no action was taken against the stations that did carry it. From sid@wrko.com Sat Jan 22 10:54:51 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat Jan 22 10:55:41 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? Message-ID: >>I forget the name of the movie as it is late- but how many ABC stations were too scared to broacast the movie that has been shown on ABC several times before? The FCC is there to maintain rules of broadcasting, not to scare everyone.<< "Saving Private Ryan" It may not have been their function, but when the tin gods that run that place (and the other commissioners are just as guilty of this) start talking about fines which are way beyond punitive and well into the confiscatory range, as well as license revocations...and when there isn't a scintilla of proof that a half-second of a bared boob or a swarthy oath on network TV does any demonstrable harm to anyone...then they certainly succeeeded. It's no stretch to understand why the FCC is in bad need of reform. It's an easy enough cop-out to say "they're only doing what Congress mandates them to do" but Congress hasn't to my recollection told the FCC to act as power- and money-hungry cops having a bad decade. Personally, I can't wait for one of the companies hit with huge fines to take the FCC to court over it. Watching the FCC attempt to defend the inconsistently-applied indeceny rules would be one of the true spectacles in American regulatory history...as it would be to watch them lose the case. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Jan 22 13:14:29 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Jan 22 13:14:38 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? Message-ID: <20050122181429.1814186B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Sid Schweiger" >To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Michael Powell to resign? >Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:54:51 -0700 > > >> I forget the name of the movie as it is late- but how many ABC > stations were too scared to broacast the movie that has been shown on > ABC several times before? The FCC is there to maintain rules of > broadcasting, not to scare everyone.<< > > "Saving Private Ryan" > > > Personally, I can't wait for one of the companies hit with huge fines to > take the FCC to court over it. Watching the FCC attempt to defend the > inconsistently-applied indeceny rules would be one of the true > spectacles in American regulatory history...as it would be to watch them > lose the case. > > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC > WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > Boston MA 02135-2040 This essentially the gravamen of an op-ed Scott Allen Miller of WRKO wrote in the Boston Globe last year. Perhaps some of the entities at risk were either waiting for a new administration in DC, or a new FCC Commissioner. Well, one of them has happened, but the fact that the same people are in charge of the White House means that Powell's successor may not be to their liking. They'll just have to take their chances with the courts anyway. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From rdavisson@neo.rr.com Sat Jan 22 13:31:06 2005 From: rdavisson@neo.rr.com (Tim Davisson) Date: Sat Jan 22 13:32:09 2005 Subject: FCC of late...creeping intimidation References: <20050122181429.1814186B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000501c500b0$8946f4a0$5aca5d18@neo.rr.com> > > >> I forget the name of the movie as it is late- but how many ABC > > stations were too scared to broacast the movie that has been shown on > > ABC several times before? The FCC is there to maintain rules of > > broadcasting, not to scare everyone.<< Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm sick to death of America's drift to nearly the radical right. This sad, un-American trend is pervasive in all parts of our culture. America was founded in revolution in order to live in a country where freedom of expression and personal freedoms was guaranteed. The recent FCC actions and intimidation of media borders on the ubsurd. While I'm by no means in favor of real, sick obcenity (yes, I realize that's subjective), and would prefer most people live by my chosen religious lifestyle...I find it grossly offensive to have this creeping interference into our lives by our Federal Government. That is NOT what the American revolutionaires fought and died for way back when From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Jan 22 13:47:35 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Jan 22 13:47:49 2005 Subject: FCC of late...creeping intimidation References: <20050122181429.1814186B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> <000501c500b0$8946f4a0$5aca5d18@neo.rr.com> Message-ID: <005901c500b2$d960b6e0$1404fea9@xyz> > Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm sick to death of America's drift > to nearly the radical right. This sad, un-American trend is pervasive in all > parts of our culture. Personally, I was getting sick of America's drift to the near radical Left. > I find it grossly offensive to have this creeping interference > into our lives by our Federal Government. That is NOT what the American > revolutionaires fought and died for way back when Apparently the guys that chiseled the 10 Commandments into the Supreme Court didn't agree with you. Nor the people that put 'In God We Trust" on the currency, nor the biblical oath taken at inaugurations and in the courtroom. I thought the main fight of the revolutionaries was about taxes and independence from a foreign power. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Jan 22 13:59:47 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Jan 22 13:59:50 2005 Subject: FCC of late...creeping intimidation References: <20050122181429.1814186B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> <000501c500b0$8946f4a0$5aca5d18@neo.rr.com> Message-ID: <001b01c500b4$8b15c460$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Davisson" To: Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 1:31 PM Subject: FCC of late...creeping intimidation > The recent FCC actions and intimidation of media borders on the ubsurd. How about providing some specifics? What actions by the FCC were absurd? From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Jan 22 14:02:59 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Sat Jan 22 14:03:08 2005 Subject: FCC of late...creeping intimidation References: <20050122181429.1814186B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com><000501c500b0$8946f4a0$5aca5d18@neo.rr.com> <005901c500b2$d960b6e0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <010401c500b4$fd87b5d0$49412218@tony> Not so strangely, I'm in the middle of both sides. One man's decency is another woman's entertainment, or vice versa. At the same time, do I really want my 24-week old - when he gets to be older - seeing a boob with a tassle on it flashing while watching the Super Bowl? No. Or, something just as abhorrent - the violent death and destruction of the Iraqi invasion on the nightly news? No. At least with the boob, I can say, "Son, that is a breast and it is one of the reasons men love women ..." What do I tell him when on the rare ocassion - since the media doesn't want to show them - that he sees some innocent woman or child from Iraq running around with blood all over themselves at the hands of American occupiers? It is the radicalism of both sides - and the fact that neither side can admit that they are indeed radical - that is the problem. While I don't think the media should be sanitized - or Christianized - and I have always been a First Amendment advocate, I am beginning to wonder if there shouldn't be some sort of common sense when it comes to what the FCC does and how the people's airwaves are controlled. Mind you, I'm glad Powell is gone. He was never qualified for the job - not unlike Justice Clarence Thomas. And his tantrums ignored all kinds of other crap an FCC chairman should have fined. I also think the media is much too corporate and I would like to see it re-regulated as far as ownership goes. But is it really healthy to allow Howard Stern to say to a hot chick at 9 a.m. in the morning, paraphrasing but pretty close to a quote, 'you're so hot I want to cut off your head and rape your neck socket'? If he wants to say that at 10 p.m. or on satellite, fine. If his radio show was on HBO [instead of E!] and he unblurred the naked bodies of all those strippers he has on, fine. I also don't have a problem with the E! show since it is on at 11 p.m. But between 6 a.m. and 9 or 10 p.m., there should be some sort of safety. It isn't just about "choosing to shut off the channel." At some point, we don't have to think about the health and safety of others, and society, don't we? Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net WKXL A&E/News 1450 Concord, NH http://politizine.blogspot.com From mlaurence@mindspring.com Sat Jan 22 14:12:04 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sat Jan 22 14:12:08 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? Message-ID: <21577654.1106421124265.JavaMail.root@wamui06.slb.atl.earthlink.net> I have never thought for a second that the FCC was going to fine anyone for showing "Saving Private Ryan." And I don't believe any of the broadcasters that banned it truly thought so either. It was a smart way to show the consequences of vague regulations, shifting standards, and draconian fines. Broadcasters were saying if we continue in this direction, the self-censorship will be more severe than anyone wants. The FCC was saying that America doesn't want exposed breasts on the Super Bowl, and they are right. America doesn't want HBO language all over prime-time broadcast TV either. I think they are correct. But the FCC has gone wrong in not being more specific and in their cowardly stance that they won't take a position on anything until they get complaints. Personally, I don't get offended by much of this. But long before the Super Bowl incident, I thought the networks were inviting a backlash by the loose language in prime time. Michael Powell's FCC has not done a good job of addressing this, but at least they have stopped the trend. Mark From rdavisson@neo.rr.com Sat Jan 22 14:24:45 2005 From: rdavisson@neo.rr.com (Tim Davisson) Date: Sat Jan 22 14:25:47 2005 Subject: FCC of late...creeping intimidation References: <20050122181429.1814186B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> <000501c500b0$8946f4a0$5aca5d18@neo.rr.com> <005901c500b2$d960b6e0$1404fea9@xyz> <010401c500b4$fd87b5d0$49412218@tony> Message-ID: <000f01c500b8$083990e0$5aca5d18@neo.rr.com> > Not so strangely, I'm in the middle of both sides. > Tony...I agree with you on the above comment. How about some non-political, non-religious common sense? I dislike a lot of what I hear coming from radicals on both sides of the political spectrum. No particular political party is the one of values, morals, and God...or FCC-approved. The current trend is leaning far-right...but far-left isn't the way to go either...in my opinion. What I get talking to my Democratic buddies is they hate Republicans. My Republican buddies hate the Democrats and some how believe their party in power will bring an honesty to goverment, will greatly cut taxes for average people, and legally dictate their type of morality to our airwaves and our everyday lives. My point is...to put your faith in EITHER political party is ridiculous: realize these guys have their own interests at heart...not ours. The FCC shouldn't lean too far in either direction...just enforce the law...not interpret the laws to conform to the current hot political trend...leaning far-right. It was pretty obvious this past election that we had two poor candidates...and one had to win. Unfortunately, regardless of who could've won...America loses. It seems common sense and decency doesn't mix anymore. But, a radical FCC or a creeping loss of personal freedoms isn't welcome in a free society. I wish I knew the answers. From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Jan 22 15:08:45 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Jan 22 15:08:53 2005 Subject: I Read The News Today (01/22) Oh Boy Message-ID: <20050122200845.C981A86B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> A perusal of the print editions of today's Boston Globe and the Boston Herald revealed three items of interest regarding the media. And since many of you (as I will) will be changing plans due to the weather, you may have time to read them herein before they go to archive. Number 1 - the Herald reports on the latest developments in the Brad Bleidt case (yes, he's broke): http://www.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=64741 Number 2 - Dean Johnson has a short item about how the WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM simulcast is dealing with its signal problems: http://theedge.bostonherald.com/tvNews/view.bg?articleid=64740 The Globe weighs in on how "touchy" material in a PBS series has caused WGBH-TV to delay a TV show for kids: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2005/01/22/wgbh_delays_show_featuring_lesbians/ Here's hoping all three stay available though the night. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Jan 22 15:33:37 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Jan 22 15:33:45 2005 Subject: Is The Sun Up To Its Old Tricks? Message-ID: <20050122203337.8EDE1C610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> For the past few mornings, WXKS-AM's signal has been receivable on route 93 well north of Medford, and I do believe that they adhere to technical requirements because you can set your watch by their pattern changes. And then yesterday (01/21), it seemed as though it was coming in fairly well after 4:30 pm, as was WEIM-AM's 1K signal. I began to think that skywave was being suppressed somewhat again, although not to the extent it was late last year. Then on MSNBC, there was a brief item about solar activity affecting the Earth, and yes, the sun has hiccupped again. More info is available at: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=15185 It may be good night to check nighttime signals on AM that are hard to pick up otherwise. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From rogerkola@aol.com Sat Jan 22 16:07:54 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sat Jan 22 16:06:52 2005 Subject: FCC of late...creeping intimidation References: <20050122181429.1814186B0D@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com><000501c500b0$8946f4a0$5aca5d18@neo.rr.com> <001b01c500b4$8b15c460$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <002201c500c6$71499720$0200a8c0@teal> The latest example of FCC absurdity: "Powell implied that the FCC must balance the benefits of BPL against the relative value of other licensed services. ...(he)...said BPL's potential for the US economy "is too great, too enormous, too potentially groundbreaking to sit idly by and allow any claim or any possible speculative fear" keep the Commission from promoting adoption of BPL technology...(in reference to)...concerns raised by Public Safety licensees, federal government users and Amateur Radio operators...."of actual co-channel interference emanating from unshielded power lines... Just like IBOC....the FCC choice is to "start it up" and fix the generated interference problems later..... Roger WA1KAT > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Davisson" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 1:31 PM > Subject: FCC of late...creeping intimidation > > > The recent FCC actions and intimidation of media borders on the ubsurd. > > How about providing some specifics? What actions by the FCC were absurd? > > From billo@shoreham.net Sat Jan 22 16:12:07 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill..) Date: Sat Jan 22 16:12:11 2005 Subject: HD radio? Message-ID: <41F2C1A7.2070008@shoreham.net> Consider this a request for a plain-English response - The more I hear about digital radio, the less I get it. What's the benefit to WBZ, WGY and others to shift to the new standard? How can we listen to it (sideband)? If it's messing with the analog quality, then, is it worth it? Bill O'Neill Shoreham, Vt. -7 F and snowing -- If at first you don't succeed then skydiving is not for you. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Jan 22 16:20:08 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Jan 22 16:20:25 2005 Subject: Is The Sun Up To Its Old Tricks? References: <20050122203337.8EDE1C610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <001701c500c8$3220d980$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Ya think the sun might be celebrating Michael Powell's departure from the FCC? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 3:33 PM Subject: Is The Sun Up To Its Old Tricks? > For the past few mornings, WXKS-AM's signal has been receivable > on route 93 well north of Medford, and I do believe that they > adhere to technical requirements because you can set your watch > by their pattern changes. And then yesterday (01/21), it seemed > as though it was coming in fairly well after 4:30 pm, as was WEIM-AM's > 1K signal. I began to think that skywave was being suppressed > somewhat again, although not to the extent it was late last year. > Then on MSNBC, there was a brief item about solar activity > affecting the Earth, and yes, the sun has hiccupped again. > More info is available at: > > http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=15185 > > It may be good night to check nighttime signals on AM that are hard > to pick up otherwise. > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 > > From sid@wrko.com Sat Jan 22 16:33:52 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat Jan 22 16:34:26 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? Message-ID: >>But the FCC has gone wrong in not being more specific and in their cowardly stance that they won't take a position on anything until they get complaints.<< Unfortunately, that has more to do with the judicial history of the First Amendment than anything else. The principle you espouse (known as "prior restraint") is something the courts and therefore Congress have been historically reluctant to impose. Powell was probably right not to go down that road by, for example, stating before the airing of "Saving Private Ryan" that it would or would not be considered indecent. It would obviously be enormously convenient to broadcasters to be told where the line is, instead of finding out where it is only after they've stepped over it. Certain courts in Massachusetts can lawfully issue "declaratory rulings" that something is or isn't constitutional, and it would be nice if we could have something like that at the FCC. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Jan 22 16:42:06 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Jan 22 16:42:15 2005 Subject: HD radio? References: <41F2C1A7.2070008@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <010b01c500cb$39f44cc0$1404fea9@xyz> My understanding is that AM will/can sound like FM... ....and FM can sound more like playing a CD. The abilitiy to send out extra information streams, etc. If your audio is delivered by the data stream, then you eliminate the static, hiss, pops and fades that are now "mixed in" with the analog signal. >>How can we listen to it (sideband)? Just like when people had to start equipping their cars with FM...and then Stereo...people will have to want to shell out some dollars to pick up a HD radio. They are on the market now. http://www.ibiquity.com/hdradio/hdradio_wheretobuy.htm >> If it's messing with the analog quality, then, is it worth it? I don't think the damage to the analog signal is as much as people in this and other forums indicate. I don't know that the issue of analog signal degradation has ever been brough up in a focus group or other consumer/listener surveys. However, I believe the major broadcasters that are retooling for this, believe that this is the future of radio....and are willing to start investing in it. (Ulinke those guys that 'gave away" their FM stations because FM would never "catch on".) ;-) From: http://www.ibiquity.com/technology/index.htm Benefits of iBiquity Digital's HD Radio technology are: Enhanced sound fidelity. Improved reception. Upgraded audio quality. New advanced application services offering new features and information for consumers everywhere. A seamless conversion process for the nation's 12,000 radio stations to move from analog to next-generation digital broadcasting. A unique opportunity for broadcasters and listeners to convert from analog to digital radio without service disruption, while maintaining current dial positions of existing stations and brand equity. All of these enhancements to local AM and FM radio are designed to better serve the listening public while offering tremendous growth opportunities for broadcasters, manufacturers, retailers and automotive manufacturers. iBiquity Digital's HD Radio technology is a method of: Digitally transmitting compact-disc-like quality audio signals to radio receivers along with new wireless data services such as station, song and artist identification, stock and news information, local traffic and weather, and much more. Using the current radio spectrum to transmit AM and FM analog simultaneously with new higher quality digital signals. Eliminating the static, hiss, pops and fades associated with today's radio caused by conditions known as multipath, noise and interference. Allowing radio broadcasters to send audio and data content via digital signals on the existing AM/FM bands through the more efficient use of existing bandwidth. With iBiquity Digital's IBOC-based HD Radio technology, radio receivers and other consumer electronics will support: "Backward and forward" compatibility, allowing them to receive traditional analog broadcasts from stations that have yet to convert and digital broadcasts from stations that have converted. Current analog radios will continue to receive the analog portion of the IBOC-based broadcast, allowing for a smooth transition to a digital world. In fact, specific features have been designed into iBiquity Digital's IBOC technology to improve the existing analog reception during the "Hybrid Mode." As the market reaches maturity, broadcasters will transition out of analog broadcasts and offer "all-digital mode" in much the same way that television stations did with black & white programming. As a result of our digital architecture, enhanced services such as increased data capacity, surround sound or other multi-casting solutions can be made available across this unused bandwidth. From billo@shoreham.net Sat Jan 22 17:07:55 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Jan 22 17:07:59 2005 Subject: HD radio? In-Reply-To: <010b01c500cb$39f44cc0$1404fea9@xyz> References: <41F2C1A7.2070008@shoreham.net> <010b01c500cb$39f44cc0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <41F2CEBB.8000406@shoreham.net> Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >As a result of our digital >architecture, enhanced services such as increased data capacity, surround >sound or other multi-casting solutions can be made available across this >unused bandwidth. > Could a "station" operate more than one "station" in their bandwidth, like going condo? Bill O'Neill From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Jan 22 18:15:42 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Jan 22 18:15:48 2005 Subject: HD radio? References: <41F2C1A7.2070008@shoreham.net><010b01c500cb$39f44cc0$1404fea9@xyz> <41F2CEBB.8000406@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <003201c500d8$52dd54e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> On FM probably yes. But I'm skeptical about putting two independent digital channels on one AM-band carrier. The bandwidth isn't even adequate for a decent-sounding stereo signal. iBiquity manages to get a semi-OK stereo signal onto AM by a) using substantially more bandwidth than analog AM does and b) using lossy compression, which creates unpleasant artifacts for some kinds of program material. The claims of the AM-band version sounding as good as (analog) FM and the FM-band version sounding as good as a CD are largely the product of the fertile minds of PR people. Now, the extra bandwidth consumed by both the AM-band and FM-band versions is mainly the result of building a compatible system--one that works--however badly--with existing analog radios. An incompatible system simply wouldn't have a chance in the marketplace. The advantages of digital transmission just aren't great enough to motivate Americans to discard nearly a billion radios and replace them with radios that cost (at least initially) several hundred dollars each. However, compatibility requires extra bandwidth because of the need to transmit both analog and digital signals. I don't think iBiquity's AM-band system has a chance despite its nominal compatibility. The strongest proponents seem to be station owners who have no technical understanding and who believe that HD Radio will be the salvation of their licenses. These folks seem to believe that if they keep smiling and talk up the advantages that iBiquity's press releases trumpet, they can make fictiion into reality. The problem is that all the optimism in the world can't repeal the laws of physics. If there were no requirement for compatibility, however, a good AM-band system could be built and the signals wouldn't have to use more bandwidth than existing analog AM signals. In fact, a good digital AM-band system exists. It's the European Digital Radio Mondiale system, which has never been given a chance in the US. The official reason that DRM never got a chance here is its incompatibility with existing radios. Although the allegations of incompatibility are true--and nobody associated with DRM ever said otherwise--politics supposedly played a role in DRM's never getting a chance. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Joseph Pappalardo" Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 5:07 PM Subject: Re: HD radio? > Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > > >As a result of our digital > >architecture, enhanced services such as increased data capacity, surround > >sound or other multi-casting solutions can be made available across this > >unused bandwidth. > > > Could a "station" operate more than one "station" in their bandwidth, > like going condo? > > Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Jan 22 19:05:39 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Jan 22 19:05:43 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? References: Message-ID: <002501c500df$459496c0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> I'm still waiting for an example of something in the grey area of indecency that has resulted in FCC action. From scott@fybush.com Sat Jan 22 19:55:51 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat Jan 22 19:55:57 2005 Subject: HD radio? In-Reply-To: <003201c500d8$52dd54e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <41F2C1A7.2070008@shoreham.net> <010b01c500cb$39f44cc0$1404fea9@xyz> <41F2CEBB.8000406@shoreham.net> <003201c500d8$52dd54e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050122193642.01ece6a8@gwind.pair.com> >The claims of the AM-band version sounding as >good as (analog) FM and the FM-band version sounding as good as a CD are >largely the product of the fertile minds of PR people. I've spent the last several days visiting a number of radio stations in the New York City market, including WOR, where I first heard IBOC a few years ago and where I've been returning on a fairly regular basis to listen as the codec improves. The last time I heard WOR's IBOC audio was in 2003, and it sounded like a low-bandwidth web stream, with all the swishing and artifacts you'd expect. It has improved dramatically since then. While I didn't have time to give it a real critical listen, it sounded as good to me as a typical FM station's air signal these days, stereo and all. (And yes, there's music on WOR - they're fairly heavy on it during their local shows, and they've redone all their imaging elements, even the top-hour time tone, to be in stereo.) Where the last codec I heard fell apart was on voice. The current version handles talk quite well. I didn't listen long enough to see if there was any fatigue from this codec, but it sounded as though it would be listenable for the length of an average commute. But - and this is a tremendous honking "but" - WOR has the signal to pull it off. There's nothing anywhere nearby on 700 or 720, and nothing of significance on 690 or 730. And WOR pumps something like 300 kW ERP toward Manhattan. What works for WOR won't work for 580 Worcester/590 Boston, say, or 1400 Fall River/1410 Brockton/1420 New Bedford/1430 Everett/etc. >The advantages of digital >transmission just aren't great enough to motivate Americans to discard >nearly a billion radios and replace them with radios that cost (at least >initially) several hundred dollars each. The hope continues to be that IBOC will, like RDS, be one of those features that starts to become standard in many new cars. I think XM and Sirius beat terrestrial radio to the punch on this one. >I don't think iBiquity's AM-band system has a chance despite its nominal >compatibility. The strongest proponents seem to be station owners who have >no technical understanding and who believe that HD Radio will be the >salvation of their licenses. These folks seem to believe that if they keep >smiling and talk up the advantages that iBiquity's press releases trumpet, >they can make fictiion into reality. The problem is that all the optimism in >the world can't repeal the laws of physics. For a station like WOR, there's no compelling reason right now NOT to be doing IBOC. The costs of adding it, especially at a time when the station's building new studios and a new transmitter site anyway, are nominal, and the advantages are potentially pretty large. If receivers start to get out in the marketplace, even if they're only in a few new cars at first, the difference in sound quality between analog and IBOC is dramatic enough to be noticeable, and there's reason to think that listeners who might not stay long with the muffly old WOR analog sound might listen longer to the digital. (WOR is also now transmitting RDS-like data with its IBOC, giving it a degree of parity with FM RDS.) Again, that's WOR, which already has a huge signal. A number of owners of much smaller signals seem to have the idea that IBOC will be a magic bullet that will give their 500-watt daytimer full-market coverage. They'll get a surprise down the road. So will the many, many stations whose technical plants have not been maintained as well as WOR's has been. There are a lot of directional arrays out there that will never be able to handle IBOC's bandwidth requirements. I also believe that the FM system will work, though it won't be a raging success. Again, it's relatively inexpensive to implement, and especially for public broadcasters, it offers that coveted second audio stream. If the radios get out there for FM, they'll be out there for AM, too. You might not pay $400 for one now, and I wouldn't either, but the odds are at least decent that the new car you buy in 2009 will have it as a standard feature, and once it's there, it's there. >If there were no requirement for compatibility, however, a good AM-band >system could be built and the signals wouldn't have to use more bandwidth >than existing analog AM signals. In fact, a good digital AM-band system >exists. It's the European Digital Radio Mondiale system, which has never >been given a chance in the US. The official reason that DRM never got a >chance here is its incompatibility with existing radios. Although the >allegations of incompatibility are true--and nobody associated with DRM ever >said otherwise--politics supposedly played a role in DRM's never getting a >chance. Of course. But one factor that gets left out of this discussion is that the DRM proponents never developed a system for the FM band, in large part because they all came from countries that have gone with Eureka-147 instead. The FCC, and the US broadcast community, wasn't going to settle for a system that only worked on AM - or for completely separate AM and FM systems - when Ibiquity was offering a system that could work on both. It could have been a hell of a lot worse - imagine if the two competing developers had never merged into Ibiquity and we now had two separate and incompatible systems battling it out for public acceptance! s From markwats@comcast.net Sun Jan 23 07:26:20 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Jan 23 07:26:29 2005 Subject: WCAP Sunday Special Message-ID: <005601c50146$c052fd90$6f918318@Mark> With the Blizzard of 2005 unleashing lots of snow and wind upon us here in Southern New England, WCAP (980 Lowell) has gone live and local on this Sunday AM, with Gary Francis hosting and opening up the phone lines as of 6 AM for listeners to call in their storm stories and questions and to report the latest cancellations, delays, etc. John McDonough is in studio assisting and co-hosting. I wonder how many other stations that would be automated or voicetracked on a weekend have gone live and local? Mark Watson From mlaurence@mindspring.com Sun Jan 23 09:06:55 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sun Jan 23 09:07:03 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0A158F0D-6D48-11D9-B14A-003065D69DF8@mindspring.com> On Jan 22, 2005, at 4:33 PM, Sid Schweiger wrote: > The principle you espouse (known as > "prior restraint") is something the courts and therefore Congress have > been historically reluctant to impose. Powell was probably right not > to > go down that road We did at one point have the "seven dirty words" though. Or was that just a George Carlin story? Mark From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Jan 23 10:43:05 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Sun Jan 23 10:43:18 2005 Subject: WCAP Sunday Special References: <005601c50146$c052fd90$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <00a201c50162$3b595460$6500a8c0@office> But......I wasn't crazy......I didn't leave the warmth and comfort of my house.....I did the show from my all digital in-house studio....same place where I do "Music & Memories Overnight".......on an 8k line to the station. -gary francis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Watson" To: "Boston Radio" Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 7:26 AM Subject: WCAP Sunday Special > With the Blizzard of 2005 unleashing lots of snow and wind upon us here > in Southern New England, WCAP (980 Lowell) has gone live and local on this > Sunday AM, with Gary Francis hosting and opening up the phone lines as of > 6 AM for listeners to call in their storm stories and questions and to > report the latest cancellations, delays, etc. John McDonough is in studio > assisting and co-hosting. I wonder how many other stations that would be > automated or voicetracked on a weekend have gone live and local? > > Mark Watson > > From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Jan 23 11:11:48 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Jan 23 11:11:53 2005 Subject: WCAP Sunday Special Message-ID: <20050123161148.4CD3B39E7@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>I did the show from my all digital in-house studio....same place where I do "Music & Memories Overnight Speaking of the storm, hope radio stations are making out OK in terms of staying on the air. I know WBZ radio had some technical problems about 9 am (signal kept going on and off; maybe they had to revert to a backup transmitter or something?). Some college stations may be off air; I know WMWM is (not only 2 feet of snow up our way but the scheduled DJ for the afternoon blues show lives in Nahant and the causeway is closed, plus parking emergency in Salem. I get the feeling she won't make it in!) As for local TV, let's raise our cup of coffee (thank you Jack Chase) to retired 'BZ-TV reporter Shelby Scott...that trouper who bravely went out to report on the heavy snow each and every time. No doubt some snow drifts now are higher than Shelby's 5-foot-height... _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From sid@wrko.com Sun Jan 23 11:58:00 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun Jan 23 11:58:39 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? Message-ID: >>> The principle you espouse (known as > "prior restraint") is something the courts and therefore Congress have > been historically reluctant to impose. Powell was probably right not > to > go down that road We did at one point have the "seven dirty words" though. Or was that just a George Carlin story?<< That wasn't PRIOR restraint. The "seven words you can't say on television" routine was broadcast by WBAI in New York. The resulting complaints and FCC ruling were after the fact. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From billo@shoreham.net Sun Jan 23 13:49:29 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Jan 23 13:49:34 2005 Subject: WCAP Sunday Special In-Reply-To: <005601c50146$c052fd90$6f918318@Mark> References: <005601c50146$c052fd90$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <41F3F1B9.10805@shoreham.net> Mark Watson wrote: > With the Blizzard of 2005 unleashing lots of snow and wind upon us > here in Southern New England, WCAP (980 Lowell) has gone live and > local on this Sunday AM, with Gary Francis hosting and opening up the > phone lines as of 6 AM for listeners to call in their storm stories Way to go. That is what local radio can do that the big guns can't. Bringing back those "Hurricane Bob" memories when Joe Corcoran, myself and others went 24/7, and just let the phones tell the story. I have some airchecks of that and it you can hear the signal problems with the high wind and hops from the grid to the generator and back. This storm could break '78 records...but we know that 78s were more fragile than 33.3s... Bill O'Neill Shoreham, Vt. (-1 F, windy and a meager 9-12 snow) From markwats@comcast.net Sun Jan 23 14:10:23 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Jan 23 14:10:31 2005 Subject: Johnny Carson Has Passed Away Message-ID: <00ee01c5017f$32855380$6f918318@Mark> Just saw on WHDH-TV (Channel 7) as well as CNN that Johnny Carson, the longtime "king" of late night TV (30 years at the helm of NBC's "Tonight Show") passed away this morning in his Malibu CA home at the age of 79. Mark Watson From Rogerkola@aol.com Sun Jan 23 14:09:27 2005 From: Rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sun Jan 23 14:15:08 2005 Subject: WCAP Sunday Special References: <005601c50146$c052fd90$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <003001c5017f$ccf9bb40$0300a8c0@Charlie> News Director, Bill Cooksey drove from Revere to Marblehead to man the WESX North Shore Storm and Coastal watch from their lovely seaside studios....a mixture of local and bird programming included the traditional Bob Litwin Polka Show from 11a - 1p....right now you can catch him with local updates at the top of the hour on 1230. Roger WESX -1230 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Watson" To: "Boston Radio" Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 7:26 AM Subject: WCAP Sunday Special > With the Blizzard of 2005 unleashing lots of snow and wind upon us here > in Southern New England, WCAP (980 Lowell) has gone live and local on this > Sunday AM, with Gary Francis hosting and opening up the phone lines as of > 6 AM for listeners to call in their storm stories and questions and to > report the latest cancellations, delays, etc. John McDonough is in studio > assisting and co-hosting. I wonder how many other stations that would be > automated or voicetracked on a weekend have gone live and local? > > Mark Watson > > > From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Jan 23 16:30:36 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Jan 23 16:31:05 2005 Subject: WCAP Sunday Special In-Reply-To: <41F3F1B9.10805@shoreham.net> References: <005601c50146$c052fd90$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <41F3D12C.31377.578506@localhost> On 23 Jan 2005 at 13:49, Bill O'Neill wrote: > This storm could break '78 records...but we know that 78s were more > fragile than 33.3s... But I haven't seen the governor on TV in a sweater! On WBZ Friday, someone said that this storm seemed just like a storm which hit the northeast on 19-20 January 1961. I remember that one, It was over by morning, but the roads were bad enough that we didn't have school and got to stay home and watch President Kennedy's inauguration. The storm hit Washington DC badly enough that they had to call out the Army to clean up the city for the inauguration, and it delayed things enough that Kennedy was sworn in about an hour late. There was some discussion among constitutional scholars over who was legally President during that hour. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From billo@shoreham.net Sun Jan 23 17:14:00 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Jan 23 17:14:06 2005 Subject: David Nyhan dead Message-ID: <41F421A8.9070508@shoreham.net> Boston.com reporting that political columnist, David Nyhan, 64, died this morning - he collapsed while shoveling snow. Nyhan was also an MSNBC contributor; their site notes that Nyhan had been a frequent television commentator on political and current affairs. Bill O'Neill From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sun Jan 23 17:40:25 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sun Jan 23 17:40:43 2005 Subject: WCAP Sunday Special References: <005601c50146$c052fd90$6f918318@Mark> <41F3D12C.31377.578506@localhost> Message-ID: <005501c5019c$8a50bc40$1404fea9@xyz> From: "A. Joseph Ross" > The storm hit Washington DC badly enough that they had to call > out the Army to clean up the city for the inauguration, and it delayed things enough that > Kennedy was sworn in about an hour late. There was some discussion among constitutional > scholars over who was legally President during that hour. Not a constitutional scholar, but I believe I know the answer to that trivia question for conversation's sake... The constitution says the new President will assume the duties at a specified hour on the clock. (Not by the recitation of the oath.) From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sun Jan 23 17:45:04 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sun Jan 23 17:45:31 2005 Subject: Fw: David Nyhan dead Message-ID: <006a01c5019d$35f57860$1404fea9@xyz> From: "Bill O'Neill" > Boston.com reporting that political columnist, David Nyhan, 64, died > this morning - he collapsed while shoveling snow. Nyhan was also an > MSNBC contributor; their site notes that Nyhan had been a frequent > television commentator on political and current affairs. My understanding was that he took the "buyout" retirement package from El Globo a few years back...then immediately picked up a regular column for the Eagle-Tribune. He always looked like he was in pretty good shape. 64 is much too young... From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Jan 23 18:36:14 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Jan 23 18:36:17 2005 Subject: Johnny Carson Has Passed Away References: <00ee01c5017f$32855380$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <000701c501a4$53f8b640$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Johnny was great. It was impressive that he could walk away and not look back. As a result, he will be remembered as a man at the top of his game. Many others, in many professions, should follow his lead. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From radiotony@comcast.net Sun Jan 23 18:51:09 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Sun Jan 23 18:51:14 2005 Subject: David Nyhan dead References: <006a01c5019d$35f57860$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <006701c501a6$69aab040$49412218@tony> Interestingly, I can't find anything on either boston.com or msnbc.com about Nyhan's death. Does anyone have a link? Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net WKXL A&E/News 1450 Concord, NH http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Pappalardo" To: Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 5:45 PM Subject: Fw: David Nyhan dead > From: "Bill O'Neill" > >> Boston.com reporting that political columnist, >> David Nyhan, 64, died >> this morning - he collapsed while shoveling >> snow. Nyhan was also an >> MSNBC contributor; their site notes that Nyhan >> had been a frequent >> television commentator on political and current >> affairs. > > My understanding was that he took the "buyout" > retirement package from El > Globo a few years back...then immediately picked > up a regular column for the > Eagle-Tribune. He always looked like he was in > pretty good shape. 64 is > much too young... > From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Jan 23 22:15:08 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Jan 23 22:15:26 2005 Subject: link to Globe obituary of David Nyhan Message-ID: <20050124031508.F28AC12CDC@mprdmxin.myway.com> http://www.boston.com/news/globe/obituaries/articles/2005/01/24/retired_globe_columnist_david_nyhan_64_collapses_and_dies/ David Nyhan, whose fiercely liberal columns for The Boston Globe made him a force in local and national politics even as his generous nature won him a legion of friends, died early yesterday at his home in Brookline, apparently of a heart attack. He was 64. Mr. Nyhan was stricken yesterday after coming in from shoveling snow and was rushed by his wife, Olivia, to Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, where he was pronounced dead. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Jan 23 22:48:03 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Jan 23 22:48:09 2005 Subject: Michael Powell Resigns!!! In-Reply-To: <200501211523.AA1103036652@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200501211523.AA1103036652@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <200501240348.j0O3m3Ww077285@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: [Text format recovered...] > Careful what you wish for. Given the Bush Administration/Republican > Party's ever so slight bias toward business interests, I can see all > ownership restrictions lifted and elimination of time & money > wasting efforts like licensing and engineering and legal IDs - > allowing companies to be more cost-effective and efficient. There's been talk from some of the right-wing think tanks in Washington that all broadcast spectrum management ought to be handed over to a private group like the NAB. There's some precedent for this in the way non-broadcast spectrum is managed and in the way the ARRL is involved in the regulation of amateur radio. Others suggest that interests in broadcast spectrum should be converted to straightforward property rights, with all the usual legal accompaniments. That would, of course, leave the FCC with nothing to regulate *except* indecency.... -GAWollman From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Jan 23 23:19:46 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Jan 23 23:20:11 2005 Subject: WCAP Sunday Special In-Reply-To: <005501c5019c$8a50bc40$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <41F43112.1071.1CE2E96@localhost> On 23 Jan 2005 at 17:40, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > The constitution says the new President will assume the duties at a > specified hour on the clock. (Not by the recitation of the oath.) What it says is that the terms of the President and Vice President end at noon on 20 January, and the terms of their successors then begin. But it also says that "before he enter on the execution of his office" he has to take the oath. So it would seem to me that the new President is President, but cannot act until he takes the oath of office. So who can act? It's always seemed to me that, if anything really needed action at that time, it would be trivially easy to swear the new President in. But apparently, some scholars were of the opinion that the Speaker was technically in charge during that hour. I don't think I agree, since in order to act as President, the Speaker is required first to resign as Speaker and as a Representative. It's probably easier just to swear in the President. But it is reported, that with his characteristic wit, when it finally came time for his swearing in, President Kennedy remarked to someone, "Oh, let's wait another few minutes and let the Speaker be President awhile longer." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Jan 23 23:44:42 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Jan 23 23:44:45 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200501240444.j0O4igY7077634@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > That wasn't PRIOR restraint. The "seven words you can't say on > television" routine was broadcast by WBAI in New York. The resulting > complaints and FCC ruling were after the fact. And Supreme Court case, don't forget that. Every law student must spend some time studying FCC v. Pacifica Foundation, 438 U.S. 726 (1978), during their constitutional law course(s). This is usually the point where one will go into the difference between "indecent" and "obscene", and why different legal standards apply to each (see Miller v. California), and how the Court found that Carlin's routine (entitled "Dirty Words", FWIW) was "indecent" and not "obscene". The practical upshot of this is that you can say the "seven words you can't say on television", so long as they're on cable, or satellite, or broadcast between 2200 and 0600 local time. -GAWollman From N9IZU@ameritech.net Tue Jan 18 21:40:04 2005 From: N9IZU@ameritech.net (Don - N9IZU) Date: Mon Jan 24 00:35:02 2005 Subject: JC Golden Oldies Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.2.20050118200156.020b3400@pop.ameritech.yahoo.com> I was doing some research on my deep dark past and ran across this thread. I was an engineer at WLLH/WSSH from 1974 - 1977 and had the extreme pleasure of working with JC at the 4 Broadway studios. Lots of stories from then but since Ron Gitschier mentioned the old Gates turntables I'll comment on those first. Those were indeed Gates sixteens and when I arrived in the Spring of '74 those guys couldn't get the platter to speed in less than one revolution, let alone slip cue. I spent more than one Sunday maintenance period working on those beasts and finally got them to factory spec. One of the DJs at the time, Dave Bailey, was so excited that he started slip-cueing ALL of his records just because he could. As I recall, JC was pretty happy too that the records would start when he wanted them. JC was hugely popular in this period -- the ONLY DJ I've EVER known who could pack a place on a Monday or Wednesday night. I saw him do it more than once. Jimmy was rather irascible until you got to know him but once you and he were friends he'd turn the earth over for you without question. I remember him telling me stories about his earlier days at WPTR in Albany, New York and his move to WFEA in Manchester, NH where he was program director. He was most proud about taking WFEA to the #1 spot in Manchester in the '60s by beating the pants off of WKBR. A couple of of his great bits were to use jingles recorded by none other than the Quincy Jones orchestra and inserting news at five minutes before the hour. The newsman would finish the newscast by saying, "This news is now released for use by other local stations." WFEA would then power back into music on the hour while all other stations started their news break! What a great bit!!! The only failing JC ever admitted to was that he, as well as a lot of other PDs, figured that the Beatles were a just flash in the pan... -.-. --.- |<~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 73, Don Hlinsky - N9IZU Downers Grove, IL. 60515 EN51xt Trustee - DuPage ARC W9DUP VE Liaison Repeater Chair Phone/FAX: 630-964-6258 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>| ... -.- From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Mon Jan 24 02:13:12 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Mon Jan 24 02:15:15 2005 Subject: WCAP Sunday Special References: <41F43112.1071.1CE2E96@localhost> Message-ID: <006a01c501e4$6c31c720$1404fea9@xyz> > On 23 Jan 2005 at 17:40, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > > > The constitution says the new President will assume the duties at a > > specified hour on the clock. (Not by the recitation of the oath.) > >From: "A. Joseph Ross" > > What it says is that the terms of the President and Vice President end at noon on 20 > January, and the terms of their successors then begin. But it also says that "before he enter > on the execution of his office" he has to take the oath. So it would seem to me that the new > President is President, but cannot act until he takes the oath of office. Wouldn't ya know a lawyer would pick my answer apart... ;-) JP From miscon@miscon.net Mon Jan 24 15:10:01 2005 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Mon Jan 24 15:10:07 2005 Subject: "Rebels On The Air" Message-ID: <200501241510.AA34013462@miscon.net> by Jesse Parker. Received the book as a gift this past Christmas. Just started reading it... Anybody else have a chance to go through it? Mike From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Jan 24 15:26:51 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Jan 24 15:26:56 2005 Subject: For the FM history buffs... Message-ID: <200501242026.j0OKQpnb086422@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> For those of you who happen to have radios that can tune wideband FM in the old (40-MHz) band: Experimental station WB3XXE has been licensed under STA for the next six months or so to broadcast from the Armstrong tower in Alpine, N.J. with 250 W on 44.1 MHz in wideband FM. The Philly-based engineer who built it (and unfortunately whose name I did not catch) has been operating the station intermittently with classical music from CD using a home-brew Phasotron transmitter into a modified 6-m dipole antenna mounted on the middle arm of the Armstrong tower. The station has an Optimod 8100A for processing. The owners of the site are planning a public commemoration of Armstrong's life and work for some time later this summer. The station was operational during the SBE15 meeting held in Armstrong's former office last Thursday evening. According to the operator, it was being copied in Philadelphia, as well as on a restored Stromberg-Carlson console set in Armstrong's former laboratory. Plans are to move the station to 42.8 MHz at some point before the public event. -GAWollman From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Jan 24 16:48:31 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Jan 24 17:49:31 2005 Subject: link to Globe obituary of David Nyhan Message-ID: <20050124214831.3C832E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: link to Globe obituary of David Nyhan >Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:15:08 -0500 (EST) > > > http://www.boston.com/news/globe/obituaries/articles/2005/01/24/retired_globe_columnist_david_nyhan_64_collapses_and_dies/ > > David Nyhan, whose fiercely liberal columns for The Boston Globe > made him a force in local and national politics even as his > generous nature won him a legion of friends, died early yesterday > at his home in Brookline, apparently of a heart attack. He was 64. > He was a regular on the Emily Rooney-hosted "Greater Boston" (yes it's on Monday thru Thursday when they're NOT media-bashing) during the political campaign just stolen, er ended, and Emily is going to do a tribute to David on tonight's (01/24) show. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Jan 24 21:40:53 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Jan 24 21:41:21 2005 Subject: Michael Powell to resign? In-Reply-To: <200501240444.j0O4igY7077634@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: Message-ID: <41F56B65.25276.6BF089@localhost> On 23 Jan 2005 at 23:44, Garrett Wollman wrote: > The practical upshot of this is that you can say the "seven words you > can't say on television", so long as they're on cable, or satellite, > or broadcast between 2200 and 0600 local time. You can also say them in prime time on "Shindler's List." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Jan 24 21:40:53 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Jan 24 21:41:28 2005 Subject: For the FM history buffs... In-Reply-To: <200501242026.j0OKQpnb086422@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <41F56B65.29411.6BF17F@localhost> On 24 Jan 2005 at 15:26, Garrett Wollman wrote: > For those of you who happen to have radios that can tune wideband FM > in the old (40-MHz) band: Now where would anyone get one of those? As it turns out, I do have a Regency "Monitoradio" that I bought at a yard sale. Apparently it was the precursor of the scanner, just a radio that tunes, manually, from 30 to 50 "mc". I don't know if it tunes wide-band FM, except that sometimes I hear what seem to be images of some regular FM stations. I got it in a yard sale about 20 years ago and had a lot of fun cleaning it up. The circuits and tubes inside are similar to the FM radios that I had back in the 1960s. I haven't tried to use it in a long time. About the only thing I could hear on it were a few pagers and the MDC police. But I believe those services have moved to higher frequencies. I suppose I could dig it out and set it up, but I'm not optimistic that a signal from New Jersey would get out here with enough strength to reach this radio inside my apartment building. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Jan 24 22:08:18 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon Jan 24 22:08:28 2005 Subject: For the FM history buffs... In-Reply-To: <41F56B65.29411.6BF17F@localhost> Message-ID: <20050125030818.51613.qmail@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > As it turns out, I do have a Regency "Monitoradio" that I bought at a > yard sale. Apparently it > was the precursor of the scanner, just a radio that tunes, manually, > from 30 to 50 "mc". I > don't know if it tunes wide-band FM, Many of the newer mid and high level public safety scanners, such as the Uniden Bearcat 296D allow you to set/force three different levels of FM bandwidth (WFM,NFM,FM) as well as AM on any frequency the scanner covers. I have a dedicated low band adjustable antenna (CushCraft TrickStick) that I can shorted to 42-44 MHz. It may be tricky to hear this station in the wide FM mode. However, when I'm at work, and I am trying to listen to TV audio to hear the news, I put a weak station in the mid FM mode and get a much strong, though mildly distorted signal. The narrow FM with pick out even the weakest of wideband signals but the distortion/clipping is pretty bad. John B Derry NH From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Wed Jan 26 00:50:52 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Wed Jan 26 01:51:14 2005 Subject: WORC-AM TimeLine Message-ID: <025301c5036b$021769c0$1404fea9@xyz> If anyone is interested in the history of WORC...leading up to it's current status, you can check out: http://www.worconline.com/testhistory.html Eddie Andleman was added to the station in 2002???? Boy, this station has been a LOT of things in the last 25 years.... JP From elipolo@earthlink.net Wed Jan 26 23:06:17 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Wed Jan 26 23:06:43 2005 Subject: WORC-AM TimeLine Message-ID: > From: "Joseph Pappalardo" > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:50:52 -0500 > Subject: WORC-AM TimeLine > > If anyone is interested in the history of WORC...leading up to > it's current status, you can check out: > > http://www.worconline.com/testhistory.html Interesting, but it doesn't quite go to it's current status. 1310 WORC flipped to Spanish a few months ago. It mentions an AM station in Gloucester that they long ago shared time with, and then consolidated with. What happened eventually to the Gloucester AM allocation? The last item mentions Frank Foley joining WORC in September 2003. He has since moved to mornings on 830 WCRN. And, how many stations/DJ's who played rock'n'roll in the early 60's were "the first in America to play The Beatles" anyway??? Eli Polonsky From mlaurence@mindspring.com Wed Jan 26 23:54:57 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Wed Jan 26 23:55:05 2005 Subject: WORC-AM TimeLine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9791E234-701F-11D9-8941-000393D13824@mindspring.com> On Jan 26, 2005, at 11:06 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote: > And, how many stations/DJ's who played rock'n'roll in the > early 60's were "the first in America to play The Beatles" > anyway??? I don't know the answer to that, but I've seen the Beatles gold record presented to WORC's PD of the 60's, "To Dick Smith, the first believer." Mark From hykker@grolen.com Thu Jan 27 07:53:56 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Jan 27 07:53:39 2005 Subject: WORC-AM TimeLine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050127075028.01af1330@pop3.grolen.com> Eli Polonsky wrote: >Interesting, but it doesn't quite go to it's current status. >1310 WORC flipped to Spanish a few months ago. > >It mentions an AM station in Gloucester that they long ago >shared time with, and then consolidated with. What happened >eventually to the Gloucester AM allocation? There do seem to be a number of gaps in the timeline. It also doesn't mention when the station returned to 1310 and/or increased power beyond 500W...it would seem to be around the mid 50s, but it's unclear. >And, how many stations/DJ's who played rock'n'roll in the >early 60's were "the first in America to play The Beatles" >anyway??? Ditto for "the first station in the northeast to play rock & roll" and the "most influential rock & roll station in America". My guess is that any number of early rock pioneers could make these claims. Is this an "official" WORC site or is it a fan site? This appears to be the only page. From scott@fybush.com Fri Jan 28 23:21:32 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Jan 28 23:21:41 2005 Subject: WBUR-FM IBOC Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050128232027.01e7e018@gwind.pair.com> Per a message to another mailing list from CE Mike LeClair, 90.9 turned on the IBOC last night. Should get interesting out Garrett's way when WICN does the same... ;-) s From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Jan 28 23:28:07 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri Jan 28 23:28:17 2005 Subject: WBUR-FM IBOC In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.0.20050128232027.01e7e018@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <200501290428.j0T4SEaZ044416@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Ugh, yup it's there for sure. Goodbye to one of my best DX frequencies, 90.7. I hope 91.1 WSMU will complain because of their reduced coverage area. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf > Of Scott Fybush > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:22 PM > To: bri@bostonradio.org > Subject: WBUR-FM IBOC > > Per a message to another mailing list from CE Mike LeClair, 90.9 turned on > the IBOC last night. Should get interesting out Garrett's way when WICN > does the same... ;-) > > s From scott@fybush.com Fri Jan 28 23:38:34 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Jan 28 23:38:41 2005 Subject: WBUR-FM IBOC In-Reply-To: <200501290428.j0T4SEaZ044416@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <6.0.1.1.0.20050128232027.01e7e018@gwind.pair.com> <200501290428.j0T4SEaZ044416@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050128233704.01e715e0@gwind.pair.com> At 11:28 PM 1/28/2005, Jeff Lehmann wrote: >Ugh, yup it's there for sure. Goodbye to one of my best DX frequencies, >90.7. I hope 91.1 WSMU will complain because of their reduced coverage area. Interesting doings down there at WSMU, now that you mention it. They've had a long-running CP to move to 89.3...and on last check, they've now recharacterized that as a CP for a new station with the calls WUMD. So it looks like at some point soon, they'll have both WUMD 89.3 and WSMU 91.1. And what do you want to be that one of them ends up simulcasting WUMB? s From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Jan 29 14:00:20 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Jan 29 14:00:39 2005 Subject: WBUR-FM IBOC Message-ID: <20050129190020.791DDC6132@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Scott Fybush" >To: "Jeff Lehmann" , bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: RE: WBUR-FM IBOC >Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:38:34 -0500 > > At 11:28 PM 1/28/2005, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > > > Ugh, yup it's there for sure. Goodbye to one of my best DX frequencies, > > 90.7. I hope 91.1 WSMU will complain because of their reduced coverage area. > > Interesting doings down there at WSMU, now that you mention it. > They've had a long-running CP to move to 89.3...and on last check, > they've now recharacterized that as a CP for a new station with the > calls WUMD. So it looks like at some point soon, they'll have both > WUMD 89.3 and WSMU 91.1. And what do you want to be that one of > them ends up simulcasting WUMB? > > s WBUR has a long-standing CP to increase power and change directional pattern somewhat. I believe this is predicated on a move of WSMU from 91.1 to 89.3. Last summer (remember summer?) during a WBUR open house, I had a conversation with the WBUR CE, a tall gentleman with a Marine-style buzz-cut, and he said WBUR and WSMU were working together on the facility changes for each. l -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From scott@fybush.com Sat Jan 29 16:05:04 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat Jan 29 16:05:17 2005 Subject: WBUR-FM IBOC In-Reply-To: <20050129190020.791DDC6132@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050129190020.791DDC6132@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050129160242.01ec03a0@gwind.pair.com> At 02:00 PM 1/29/2005, Laurence Glavin wrote: >WBUR has a long-standing CP to increase power and change directional >pattern somewhat. I believe this is predicated on a move of >WSMU from 91.1 to 89.3. Yes, but... The rules changed along the way, and the protection that WBUR would once have gotten from WSMU on 91.1 is no longer mandated by the current rules. (IIRC - and I'm going strictly by memory here - it has to do with the first-adjacent station's 40 or 45 dBu contour not touching the other first-adjacent station's 100 dBu contour.) That's how SMU - er, USM - er, UMassDartmouth was able to get the 89.3 app recharacterized from being a frequency change for WSMU to being an app for a brand-new facility. s