From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Mon Aug 1 00:14:59 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 00:14:59 -0400 Subject: News about Air America References: <42ED0C7D.20861.24141E@localhost> Message-ID: <01b701c5964f$ccf1ab20$1404fea9@xyz> > On 31 Jul 2005 at 11:10, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > > > But if I see clouds, and point out to you that there are indeed > > clouds..... > > If you point to a crystal clear sky and tell me there are clouds, I'm going to wonder what > substances you've been taking. If you see a crystal clear sky where many of us see clouds, then we can assume you have faulty eyes? (I am asking this question rhetorically...simply to show that it goes both ways. Again, what we have to accept is that people see things differently, and come to differing conclusions about the same facts, texts, sights, etc. This is part of polite discourse. Insisting that everyone see things one way (MY way), reach my conclusions, have my values, understanding, and inherent bias, etc....only hurts the course of civility and breeds contempt for others. I say this, understanding that both sides do this. My responses to your "the left does this...the right does this"....is to show simply that it works both ways. Second, it wasn't....'crystal clear' and 'clouds'...it was 'partly cloudy' and 'overcast'...which does more easily illustrate how people can have differing perspectives. From stevewest106@hotmail.com Mon Aug 1 02:51:43 2005 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 01:51:43 -0500 Subject: Air America, et al.. Message-ID: Is it just me, or has this liberal vs conservative discussion become simply a partisan brood of finger pointing? Frankly I'm surprised our fair moderator hasn't asked that we keep things to a dull roar. Strangely enough, I'll make this offhand observation: since Air America took to the airwaves, the seething unrest seems now to be bubbling up to the top - and now the level of anger is at a full boil toward the hosts and supporters... even casual listeners to the various national talk shows on both conservative and "progressive" talk formats. Or, is it just me? C'mon, Bill O'Reilly lies... Franken does this & that, conservatives are evil and liberals are untrustworthy... this latter two being what it probably appears to be to some readers, not an exact quote. I'm dealing with this on my Radio-Info boards. I have the utmost respect for the members of this list... you guys have been here for a whole lot longer than just about any other discussion group of ANY kind on the internet-- heck, I been with ya since the late 90s, so, I'm just wondering if the whole nation is becoming so polarized and defensive that the political anger is now spilling into every nook and cranny of our lives... Please, don't anyone be angry with me, for I have offended this list a few times myself. I'm simply noting an observation that even the more learned among us seem to be at the end of their rope as far as patience with the other end of the political spectrum. Perhaps we DO need a return of sorts to the Fairness Doctrine - talk radio is getting us to say things about each other and our views that we wouldn't ever have said face to face. And, to my mind, thats really scary to think that we Americans are getting to the point that every discussion seems to get people to stand toe to toe with people of the opposite political bend and shout face to face. It's not a big leap from there to violence... although I'd hope we're a long way from that. That's all I wish to say, and if anyone would like to discuss this further with me, please email me off list. Donna, my wonderful liberal friend, our discussions earlier this year made me seriously ponder many issues... I'd really like to know what you're thinking right now. Thanks for your time... Steve "West" Radio-Info.com moderator & airchexx.com webmaster From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Mon Aug 1 03:31:08 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 03:31:08 -0400 Subject: Air America, et al.. References: Message-ID: <029e01c5966b$005896c0$1404fea9@xyz> > Is it just me, or has this liberal vs conservative discussion become simply > a partisan brood of finger pointing? Frankly I'm surprised our fair > moderator hasn't asked that we keep things to a dull roar. It's not a "Liberal vs. Conservative" discussion....as much as it is a discussion as to why talk radio has become a sucession of 'rants'....which many on the board have shown little tolerance for. Liberal/Conservative has not been the thrust of the point. I believe that the only way that talkradio can return to civil disourse is to start realizing that there are indeed people who see the world differently than we might. Reaching different conclusions, etc. Be it right *OR* left. >>conservatives are evil and liberals are untrustworthy... this latter two being what it probably appears to be to some readers, not an exact quote. I'm dealing with this on my Radio-Info boards.<< However, I would agree, that seems to be tfoundation of many of the discussions on radio-info.com . From stevewest106@hotmail.com Mon Aug 1 07:56:27 2005 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 06:56:27 -0500 Subject: Air America, et al.. In-Reply-To: <029e01c5966b$005896c0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: You wrote: > >Liberal/Conservative has not been the thrust of the point. No, of course it wasn't. But it seems to have evolved into that. > >I believe that the only way that talkradio can return to civil disourse is >to start realizing that there are indeed people who see the world >differently than we might. Reaching different conclusions, etc. > >Be it right *OR* left. And therein lies the problem. Short of legislating some sort of opposing viewpoint requirement into the talkradio dialogue, how are we going to get these stations - of both viewpoints - to make sure that the other side gets to be heard? You guys probably know I've been a big vocal opponent of the so-called 'fairness doctrine', because I believe as I did when it was in effect, that it forced radio stations to do bland radio out of fear that one side might come out as the winner (and back in the day the fear was that a whopping fine would ensue if the discussion was lop sided)... with AM radio already on the ropes, if they kill off the talk shows trying to make things 'fair', I'm not sure who wins. And, some talkers would argue that things are 'fair', because, first, when conservative talk radio gained momentum in the late 80s, they argued that the rest of the media was biased to the Left, and now its because of Air America and the 'progressive talk' format taking hold nationwide. I'm not sure that's a correct assumption either. So... I think we've got a serious problem where meaty discussions are turning into shouting matches where generalities rule and facts seem nowhere to be found - and its moving from the talk radio world out into mainstream society... Heck, I saw two women get into it about President Bush at a Kroger grocery store the other day. Sheesh! While its great that everyone's informed, aren't we who are broadcasters shirking our responsibility to report facts and not get everyone angry to the point of coming to blows? > > >>conservatives are >evil and liberals are untrustworthy... this latter two being what it >probably appears to be to some readers, not an exact quote. I'm dealing >with this on my Radio-Info boards.<< > >However, I would agree, that seems to be tfoundation of many of the >discussions on radio-info.com . Addressing that - it's been my experience as moderator that there is a group of rabble-rousers whose sole purpose in life is to create dischord. Ban them and they return after registering a different email address. I know with me it's NOT my intent to allow the discussions to depart from radio.... but in the case of the Boston board, there are three talk stations in the market (4 if you count the WXKS-AM/WKOX AAR simulcast as two different signals) and it's difficult to ban the entire subject of talk radio when it's so prevalent on the air. From nostaticatall@comcast.net Mon Aug 1 10:19:00 2005 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 10:19:00 -0400 Subject: Air America, et al.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1bd9151a334c8541656b988d9b5f928c@comcast.net> On Aug 1, 2005, at 7:56 AM, Steve West wrote: > > So... I think we've got a serious problem where meaty discussions are > turning into shouting matches where generalities rule and facts seem > nowhere to be found - and its moving from the talk radio world out > into mainstream society... Heck, I saw two women get into it about > President Bush at a Kroger grocery store the other day. Sheesh! > While its great that everyone's informed, aren't we who are > broadcasters shirking our responsibility to report facts and not get > everyone angry to the point of coming to blows? There was a link to a story on All Access not too long ago which basically said that talk radio listeners tend to be more polarized politically than the rest of the population as a whole. You have to wonder if all of the partisan bickering has chased away some listeners. Nationwide, news-talk stations have taken a ratings hit since the election. If this trend continues, I wouldn't be surprised to see more moderate talk show hosts finding airtime. Progressive talker Ed Schultz's views are more centrist than most of other hosts on his affiliates, and his show continues to grow. Could we see this happening on conservative talk stations too? > I know with me it's NOT my intent to allow the discussions to depart > from radio.... but in the case of the Boston board, there are three > talk stations in the market (4 if you count the WXKS-AM/WKOX AAR > simulcast as two different signals) and it's difficult to ban the > entire subject of talk radio when it's so prevalent on the air. Actually, there are four talk stations if you count WTTT. At least as far as Boston goes, you'd almost have to include WBUR in the discussion because it really serves as a viable alternative to traditional talk stations for many listeners. --Dave Tomm "MIke Thomas" From rdavisson@neo.rr.com Mon Aug 1 16:06:14 2005 From: rdavisson@neo.rr.com (Tim) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 16:06:14 -0400 Subject: Air America, et al.. References: Message-ID: <003301c596d4$7a942710$5aca5d18@tim98b01b5ec4c> Steve & group....I think the point most of you keep missing is....talk show hosts and writers are paid entertainers. Their chief goal is to get the highest ratings/most readers they can so that they can earn more and more money. While, I'm a fan of capitalism, and see nothing wrong with earning all the money you can...what concerns me is millions of average Americans follow the "show" these entertainers put on daily and take them seriously. Very seriously. Talk show hosts aren't on the air in order to foster public discourse...they're on the air to be entertainers and get paid. It's paid show-biz, folks. That's the prime motivation of the hosts and writers. To get paid. It amazes me so many of you are missing that fact. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Aug 1 16:18:57 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:18:57 -0400 Subject: Air America, et al.. In-Reply-To: <003301c596d4$7a942710$5aca5d18@tim98b01b5ec4c> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050801161327.02d74ed0@pop.registeredsite.com> What's fascinating to me is here in Boston, where the affiliate has terrible signal problems, there are few commercials and a lot of PSAs. But I was just listening on line to Phoenix's Air America affiliate, and just about every single avail is sold. No PSAs, no baldness treatments, just real honest to pete commercials, and a lot of local commercials. So, evidently AAR is doing okay in some cities... I personally think there is a need for both sides to be heard-- and Ed Schultz, the moderate, just picked up his 99th (!) affiliate last week. From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Aug 1 16:59:36 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:59:36 -0500 Subject: Air America, et al.. Message-ID: <20050801205936.ACAD786B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://lists.BostonRadio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/attachments/20050801/5550768e/attachment.ksh From stevewest106@hotmail.com Mon Aug 1 21:18:31 2005 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 20:18:31 -0500 Subject: Air America, et al.. In-Reply-To: <003301c596d4$7a942710$5aca5d18@tim98b01b5ec4c> Message-ID: Sure it's entertainment and nobody would think otherwise... however, no matter how entertaining, this isn't music you're talking about. These are real issues and there should be some truth and facts applied instead of an endless string of baseless accusations by both sides of the political spectrum. Furthermore, it's PRECISELY because we have some rather uninformed listeners who don't bother to dig for facts and take what these so called ENTERTAINERS say at face falue thinking it's the truth. I have pined away, even in this forum, that the fairness doctrine wasn't a good practice, but of late I've been re-thinking that opinion. Why is it that I feel a certain way when I hear Sean Hannity - and agree with most of what he says, then when I dig for facts, I don't find lies... but I find that much of the *truth* has been conveniently overlooked. No, talk show hosts aren't there to engage in public discourse... but shouldn't they? After all, I thought these were the public airwaves and I thought that radio stations were supposed to broadcast in the public interest. That they happen to make a profit along the way doesn't bother me one bit but lets do it responsibly. > >Talk show hosts aren't on the air in order to foster public >discourse...they're on the air to be entertainers and get paid. It's paid >show-biz, folks. That's the prime motivation of the hosts and writers. To >get paid. It amazes me so many of you are missing that fact. > Yes and it occurs to me that Howard Stern is an entertainer too... that doesn't mean that some of his material doesn't have to be censored for the public good. You know what? The bottom line here is that many people don't realize the power to sway public opinon these talk show hosts have. People literally congregate around the water cooler and talk about what Limbaugh, or Glenn Beck, or Al Franken said this morning... it sticks in their minds and makes them think... and if it's all hate wrapped in entertainment then what possible good have we accomplished at the end of the day? From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 1 23:02:35 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:02:35 -0400 Subject: Air America, et al.. In-Reply-To: <20050801205936.ACAD786B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <42EEAA0B.22389.472A09@localhost> On 1 Aug 2005 at 15:59, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Part of the problem is not the number of PSA's but the fact that > the same ones are played over and over "my dad can > eat a whole japapeno cherry; no way his head would explode!" "Boom!" > One day, I called the Stephanie Miller show, and when callers > are on hold, they can hear the audio of AM 1150 on Los Angeles. > Remember, Steph is on in morning drive there, and they're > L-O-A-D-E-D with real advertsing messages. I wonder how hard Clear Channel is trying to sell advertizing for those stations. Could it be as Bob suggested some months back, that Clear Channel is signing up Air America on its stations in order to kill it? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 1 23:02:35 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:02:35 -0400 Subject: News about Air America In-Reply-To: <01b701c5964f$ccf1ab20$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <42EEAA0B.19251.4729BE@localhost> On 1 Aug 2005 at 0:14, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > Second, it wasn't....'crystal clear' and 'clouds'...it was 'partly > cloudy' and 'overcast'...which does more easily illustrate how people > can have differing perspectives. You use your analogy to make your points, and I'll use my analogy to make my points. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Mon Aug 1 23:08:53 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 23:08:53 -0400 Subject: Air America, et al.. In-Reply-To: <42EEAA0B.22389.472A09@localhost> References: <20050801205936.ACAD786B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050801230425.02c49d18@gwind.pair.com> > > One day, I called the Stephanie Miller show, and when callers > > are on hold, they can hear the audio of AM 1150 on Los Angeles. > > Remember, Steph is on in morning drive there, and they're > > L-O-A-D-E-D with real advertsing messages. > >I wonder how hard Clear Channel is trying to sell advertizing for those >stations. Could it be >as Bob suggested some months back, that Clear Channel is signing up Air >America on its >stations in order to kill it? No. Reread the statement - 1150 in Los Angeles, a Clear Channel-owned station, is "L-O-A-D-E-D with real advertising messages." CC doesn't sign up ANYTHING to kill it. It signs up whatever it signs up in order to make a profit, and if it doesn't think it can make a profit, it changes format. The signals on which CC has been putting progressive talk (not just AA, and sometimes no AA content at all) keep getting bigger - 1530 Cincy, the second-best AM in the market; 92.1 Madison and 92.5 San Antonio, which are both full-market FMs, and so on. The only markets where CC has put AA on dog signals are places such as DC and Boston where the dog signals are the only ones that CC owns. And we know that CC had no intention of 1200 remaining a dog signal. You can thank the city of Newton for that. s From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Aug 1 23:27:57 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:27:57 -0400 Subject: Air America, et al.. In-Reply-To: <42EEAA0B.22389.472A09@localhost> References: <42EEAA0B.22389.472A09@localhost> Message-ID: At 11:02 PM -0400 8/1/05, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >I wonder how hard Clear Channel is trying to sell advertizing for >those stations. Could it be >as Bob suggested some months back, that Clear Channel is signing up >Air America on its >stations in order to kill it? Speaking of Clear Channel, I heard last night on Drudge that all CC stations (at least the ones that have news) will be carrying Fox News. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From scott@fybush.com Mon Aug 1 23:38:38 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 23:38:38 -0400 Subject: Air America, et al.. In-Reply-To: References: <42EEAA0B.22389.472A09@localhost> <42EEAA0B.22389.472A09@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050801233453.02b28918@gwind.pair.com> At 11:27 PM 8/1/2005 -0400, Larry Weil wrote: >At 11:02 PM -0400 8/1/05, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > >>I wonder how hard Clear Channel is trying to sell advertizing for those >>stations. Could it be >>as Bob suggested some months back, that Clear Channel is signing up Air >>America on its >>stations in order to kill it? > >Speaking of Clear Channel, I heard last night on Drudge that all CC >stations (at least the ones that have news) will be carrying Fox News. As usual with Drudge, there's some truth to that, yet it's not quite completely correct. CC did a group deal with, well, itself (Premiere, which distributes Fox News Radio) to put Fox content on the CC stations where it makes sense. It's not necessarily replacing all other existing news content - for instance, WHAM here in Rochester keeps CBS News and ABC's Paul Harvey, but will use Fox newscasts instead of CBS at the top of the hour overnight. And they won't put it where it doesn't make sense. You won't hear it on WHJJ or WKOX/WXKS. And it won't appear on the music stations at all. s From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 1 23:49:03 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:49:03 -0400 Subject: Air America, et al.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050801233453.02b28918@gwind.pair.com> References: Message-ID: <42EEB4EF.3950.71B507@localhost> On 1 Aug 2005 at 23:38, Scott Fybush wrote: > CC did a group deal with, well, itself (Premiere, which distributes > Fox News Radio) to put Fox content on the CC stations where it makes > sense. It's not necessarily replacing all other existing news content > - for instance, WHAM here in Rochester keeps CBS News and ABC's Paul > Harvey, but will use Fox newscasts instead of CBS at the top of the > hour overnight. And they won't put it where it doesn't make sense. You > won't hear it on WHJJ or WKOX/WXKS. And it won't appear on the music > stations at all. Air America has its own news, and I wouldn't expect them to replace that with Fox news. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From hykker@grolen.com Tue Aug 2 07:26:49 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 07:26:49 -0400 Subject: Air America, et al.. In-Reply-To: <42EEAA0B.22389.472A09@localhost> References: <20050801205936.ACAD786B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> <42EEAA0B.22389.472A09@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050802072142.01c1d640@pop3.grolen.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > One day, I called the Stephanie Miller show, and when callers > > are on hold, they can hear the audio of AM 1150 on Los Angeles. > > Remember, Steph is on in morning drive there, and they're > > L-O-A-D-E-D with real advertsing messages. > >I wonder how hard Clear Channel is trying to sell advertizing for those >stations. Could it be >as Bob suggested some months back, that Clear Channel is signing up Air >America on its >stations in order to kill it? I've wondered about that myself...many advertisers tend to avoid controversial programming...often stating specific programs they do not want their spots to run in. As far as AA programming appearing sold out in some markets...I wonder how many are actually sold or if they're just bonus spots (ie-buy a schedule on our 3 FMs and we'll throw in x number of spots on our AM at no charge). Syndicated programming of any type can be tough to sell. From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Aug 2 07:52:36 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 07:52:36 -0400 Subject: Air America, et al.. References: <20050801205936.ACAD786B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com><42EEAA0B.22389.472A09@localhost> <6.0.3.0.0.20050802072142.01c1d640@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <002301c59758$b66f7080$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Well, CCU owns two big FMs in this market. Granted, there is little commonality of interest between listeners to AAR and listeners to Jam'n and Kiss, but if any attempt is being made to offer bonus time on 1200/1430 to buyers of time on 94.5/107.9, it certainly isn't obvious. Unless that material were truly objectionable, I think that most listeners to 1200 (me, for instance) would welcome any freebie spots that could be substituted for the same dozen or so PSAs that 1200/1430 have been running since the flip to AAR. Some of those PSAs run four and five times within one hour. At one point, 1200/1430 was running a ghastly PSA about asthma (began with the sound of somebody gasping for breath--horrible). I called the recorded listener line and complained about that PSA in particular but also about the limited repertoire of PSAs that the Boston AAR stations run. There are probably several hundred PSAs that a company with CCUs resources could get hold of--if they just devoted a little effort to obtaining them. The asthma spot disappared pretty quickly (I guess others complained too), but the plea for a greater variety of PSAs seems to have fallen on deaf ears. I don't know if there is a human being who minds the store at 1200/1430. If there is and somebody can provide an e-mail address, I will be happy to write and register my complaint once again. Yes, I'm aware that 1200/1430 has started running a series of PSAs on strokes within the last two weeks. But adding one series of three spots to the rotation is scarcely enough; they need twenty or more such series. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:26 AM Subject: Re: Air America, et al.. > > As far as AA programming appearing sold out in some markets...I wonder how > many are actually sold or if they're just bonus spots (ie-buy a schedule on > our 3 FMs and we'll throw in x number of spots on our AM at no > charge). Syndicated programming of any type can be tough to sell. > From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Aug 2 12:07:09 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 12:07:09 -0400 Subject: Air America, et al.. In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050802072142.01c1d640@pop3.grolen.com> References: <42EEAA0B.22389.472A09@localhost> <20050801205936.ACAD786B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> <42EEAA0B.22389.472A09@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050802120450.02c7a718@pop.registeredsite.com> >Steve wrote-- >As far as AA programming appearing sold out in some markets...I wonder how >many are actually sold or if they're just bonus spots (ie-buy a schedule >on our 3 FMs and we'll throw in x number of spots on our AM at no >charge). Syndicated programming of any type can be tough to sell. I know the GM in Phoenix and he told me that these are genuine, real commercials from people who just like the format; but another important factor is that the station has been very quick to develop its own local talent, sending them out all over the place. The station has a very strong presence in the market, and is more than just syndicatioin or satellite feed. I think that local identity has a lot to do with it. From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Aug 2 12:41:53 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 12:41:53 -0400 Subject: Air America, et al.. Message-ID: > > From: Scott Fybush > CC: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > To: "A. Joseph Ross" , > "Laurence Glavin" > Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 23:08:53 -0400 > Subject: Re: Air America, et al.. > > The only markets where CC has put AA on dog signals are > places such as DC and Boston where the dog signals are > the only ones that CC owns. And we know that CC had no > intention of 1200 remaining a dog signal. You can thank > the city of Newton for that. However, CC had allegedly had other intentions for the 1200 signal when they originally proposed the upgrade to Newton a few years ago. AA didn't even exist yet, and the word going around was that they were supposedly planning a new conservative talk station to boom into Boston and compete with WRKO, and to move shows that they syndicate (under the Premiere Networks name) such as Rush Limbaugh onto. When it appeared that they were stuck with the Framingham transmitter for 1200, they knew it would not be a viable signal in Boston for their plans for a conservative talker to compete with WRKO, so they left it brokered ethnic for that time being. Then when AA came around, they decided that they might as well make 1200 into the west suburban companion AA signal to 1430, but if they had been granted the Newton site a few years ago, it's perhaps possible that we might have a completely different type of talk station on 1200 now. Eli Polonsky From scott@fybush.com Tue Aug 2 13:13:25 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 13:13:25 -0400 Subject: Air America, et al.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050802130523.03ef0cc0@gwind.pair.com> >Then when AA came around, they decided that they might as >well make 1200 into the west suburban companion AA signal >to 1430, but if they had been granted the Newton site a >few years ago, it's perhaps possible that we might have a >completely different type of talk station on 1200 now. Indeed. And as I've said before here, I have doubts about the conventional wisdom that says liberal talk should do best in liberal markets. I'm just back from San Francisco, which is as blue as it gets, and ABC's KSFO (huge signal, very right-tilting talk) and CC's KNEW (more than adequate signal, right-tilting talk) are still doing quite well out there, attracting very loyal and passionate listenership from the conservative minority there that feels disenfranchised by ABC's mainstream talk behemoth KGO and most of the rest of the political dialogue in the region. CC's other talker, KQKE 960, with a respectable signal but no local weekday programming (it's the usual CC libtalk mix of AA, Schultz, etc.), has a much tougher fight ahead of it, what with the really lefty stuff on Pacifica mothership KPFA, the moderate-to-libertarian local talk lineup on KGO, the huge ratings KQED's NPR programming draws, and so on. Point being, I don't expect huge numbers from "libtalk" in places like Boston, San Francisco or New York. I'd love to try it somewhere like Fort Wayne, where there's a passionate (and fairly affluent) left-leaning population that's distinctly in the minority but substantial enough to yield a few share points to whatever station can speak to them in a way that the existing talker (the once-great full-service WOWO) no longer does. s From kwillcox@wnsh.com Tue Aug 2 16:14:02 2005 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (Keating Willcox) Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 16:14:02 -0400 Subject: air america In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050802160647.0360ab80@mail.comcast.net> The discussion on Air America's popularity can be answered in a single word....ratings. Conservative talk shows are everywhere because of ....ratings, plus the propensity of listeners to stay with a station through a station break. Opera and NPR don't have very good....ratings. That is why the government takes its money, that is your money, and spends it on these programs, and now that Air America has become an opportunity for Democrat in-kind fund raising, that sort of speaks to its poor ratings. Does anyone have figures for how well these talk shows do on the sat broadcast? How about direct to cell-phone and direct streaming to other wireless devices? I assume that in five years, the music portion of radio will be devastated by these new technologies, just as the recording industry has been destroyed by downloaded and I-pods. Maybe local talk and entertainment shows, s well as ethnic shows will be the last men standing??? >Boston-Radio-Interest mailing list >Boston-Radio-Interest@lists.BostonRadio.org >http://lists.BostonRadio.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-radio-interest Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Beverly 'playing the best music ever recorded' kwillcox@wnsh.com www.wnsh.com 978-921-1570 FAX 978-468-1954 376 Hale Street, Beverly, MA 01915 From billo@shoreham.net Tue Aug 2 17:11:44 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 17:11:44 -0400 Subject: Music & Radio (was: air america) References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050802160647.0360ab80@mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <000f01c597a6$c9a1da00$0300a8c0@windhamgroup.com> Keating writes: > I assume that in five years, the music portion of radio will be devastated > by these new technologies, just as the recording industry has been > destroyed by downloaded and I-pods. Maybe local talk and entertainment > shows, s well as ethnic shows will be the last men standing??? I may be having a stroke as I write this (excuse for the drool) but the Frank/Dick/Moe/Larry/MP103s of the dial may be alone, coughing out the ones and zeroes, sans live or even tracked voices but for the drop-ins on the QTRs. If digital radio makes it such that the stations will have more than one "channel" to offer, then there is hope. A cluster of signals comprising what we now consider a station could provide a range of complementary options, ad bundles all-around, and the same electric bill at the tower. Having "survived" listening to assorted jock shifts, mostly AM drive, here in the great white north, eh, makes me appreciate jockless radio that much more. I'm sure that sentiment will last - until the rotation screws the listeners into actually believing that "variety" meant more than an industry rag or a store on the corner. The last of the live shifts, for the most part, seem to have devolved to, unfortunately, that block of time we lovingly call morning drive. That means that you either get dinasaurs laughing at each other as they puke out wasted time & temp, throw away greeting lines, and and lame bits or talent that would make for outstanding producers. No longer do you have the mid-day jock aspiring for PM or AM drive, nor do you have the evening guy just thankful not to be playing to closing bars, drunk and lonely callers, all of that leading up to a sunrise and empty streets that smell of pee. (Scary how we remember these things?) Music stations can do good stuff, even in the future when satellite radio becomes a switch on even base model Kias. Local origination will only be important to the listener if stations show them why. Do what the national signals just can't and do it in a value-added way, not as an alternative. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Tue Aug 2 10:07:35 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:07:35 -0400 Subject: CC & Fox Message-ID: <000001c597a1$e21912b0$0300a8c0@windhamgroup.com> Following up on Scott's a few days ago, I noticed that CC's WEAV (960 Plattsburg)//WXZO (96.7 Willsboro) in the Burl/Platt market as well as WSYB (1380 Rutland)//WWWT (Randolph) switched from CNN to FoxNews on 8/1. Bill O'Neill From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Aug 2 19:01:29 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:01:29 -0400 Subject: air america In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050802160647.0360ab80@mail.comcast.net> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050802185845.02de1d50@pop.registeredsite.com> At 04:14 PM 8/2/2005 -0400, Keating Willcox wrote: >The discussion on Air America's popularity can be answered in a single >word....ratings. Conservative talk shows are everywhere because of >....ratings, plus the propensity of listeners to stay with a station >through a station break. Opera and NPR don't have very good....ratings. >That is why the government takes its money, that is your money, and spends >it on these programs, and now that Air America has become an opportunity >for Democrat in-kind fund raising, that sort of speaks to its poor ratings. Umm, the "poor ratings" vary-- in Portland OR, Air America is in the top 3. And the ratings just came out in Boulder CO and Air America took the station from a .4 to a 2.5... depends on what markets we are talking about. Conservative talk shows did NOT have ratings when they first started, contrary to the revisionist history on the subject. I have no axe to grind with either side-- I just want the facts to be accurate, and the fact is that when conservative talk first went on the air, it had no ratings and not a lot of advertisers. But gradually, it built. I don't know if progressive talk will do the same but moderate/liberal talker Ed Schultz just got his 99th affiliate, and people must be signing on for a reason, wouldn't you think? From billo@shoreham.net Tue Aug 2 19:27:37 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 19:27:37 -0400 Subject: air america References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050802185845.02de1d50@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <001501c597b9$c5cdf400$0300a8c0@windhamgroup.com> Donna wrote: But gradually, it built. I don't > know if progressive talk will do the same but moderate/liberal talker Ed > Schultz just got his 99th affiliate, and people must be signing on for a > reason, wouldn't you think? Yes, and mid-term elections are just warming up. Let the games begin! Bill O'Neill From mlaurence@mindspring.com Tue Aug 2 21:01:01 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 21:01:01 -0400 Subject: air america In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050802160647.0360ab80@mail.comcast.net> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050802160647.0360ab80@mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Aug 2, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Keating Willcox wrote: > Conservative talk shows are everywhere because of ....ratings Some are, some are not. Some programmers just follow what's been successful in some other markets. Some owners program because of their own political beliefs. > plus the propensity of listeners to stay with a station through a > station break If you mean TSL, that is one area where WKOX and WXKS-AM have excelled. Their listeners sit through hours of commercial breaks, listening longer than nearly any other audience in town. > Opera and NPR don't have very good....ratings. Opera? The days when opera was synonymous with NPR are long gone. NPR and WBUR have earned excellent ratings in Boston, as have NPR news/talk stations in many markets. > and now that Air America has become an opportunity for Democrat in- > kind fund raising, that sort of speaks to its poor ratings. I don't know what you are talking about. Do you? There have been no fund raising drives for Air America that I know of. It is running like a business, with some start-up problems for sure, but anticipating profits, not charity. > Does anyone have figures for how well these talk shows do on the > sat broadcast? Air America just signed an exclusivity deal with XM, so their brand name has some value to that satellite broadcaster. In general, talk shows have had a lot of value, with Howard Stern, Opie and Anthony, and other name-brand personalities in high profile competition. But I have never seen ratings for individual satellite channels and I'm not sure they exist. From radiotony@comcast.net Tue Aug 2 23:07:40 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 23:07:40 -0400 Subject: air america In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200508030332.j733WT7Q047748@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> I would agree with this point in a big way, in both music and talk. How many Rush clones were there after he first started getting a slew of listeners? If I had a dollar for every time I heard someone say to me over the years, 'Oh, you're in radio? My nephew has a cable show and wants to be Rush Limbaugh ...' How many Nirvana clone bands were there after they hit big? After every small wave of bands which get successful there are a slew of copycat bands being thrown against the wall like a plate of spaghetti in "The Odd Couple" to see what would stick. Unfortunately, it is just the way it is. And I don't necessarily mind if it is the music business, the book business, or the newspaper business. If I want to put out my own CDs, I can [and have]. If someone wants to write a book and self-publish, they can. Anyone can start a newspaper or a Web site. But with radio and television, the airwaves are limited and owned by the public. The airwaves should be more accessible to as many points of view as possible. My arguments aren't just about liberal versus conservative, although in talk right now, it is overwhelming conservative. But I also feel there should be a better job done by public radio which is exceedingly corporate and stale, while being targeted as supposdly liberal. I look at NHPR, one of our competitors, which has a budget of more than $3M a year and has very little local content. Best, Anthony Schinella Program Director/News/A&E WKXL 1450 AM/Concord, NH http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Laurence Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:01 PM To: Keating Willcox Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: air america On Aug 2, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Keating Willcox wrote: > Conservative talk shows are everywhere because of ....ratings Some are, some are not. Some programmers just follow what's been successful in some other markets. Some owners program because of their own political beliefs. From nostaticatall@comcast.net Wed Aug 3 00:36:55 2005 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 00:36:55 -0400 Subject: air america In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050802160647.0360ab80@mail.comcast.net> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050802160647.0360ab80@mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <05f9420db21671f06210935eb32127bb@comcast.net> On Aug 2, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Keating Willcox wrote: > The discussion on Air America's popularity can be answered in a single > word....ratings. Conservative talk shows are everywhere because of > ....ratings, plus the propensity of listeners to stay with a station > through a station break. Opera and NPR don't have very > good....ratings. That is why the government takes its money, that is > your money, and spends it on these programs, and now that Air America > has become an opportunity for Democrat in-kind fund raising, that sort > of speaks to its poor ratings. As Donna previously mentioned, it took Conservative radio years to develop the audience it now enjoys. When Limbaugh first emerged, he was on a lot of low powered stations and got modest ratings. Over a period of a few years, he gradually built an audience and his show "upgraded" to better signals in many markets. With Rush as the star, these stations quickly found complimentary programming to surround his show, and over the last 15 years have built long term listenership. Heck, look how long it took WTKK to grow into a formidable competitor to WRKO. Six years. Despite having one of the best FM signals in the metro and a conservative lean, the station had to go through years of growing pains to get where they are today. Even now, they often trail 680 in the 12+ beauty contest, but 96.9 beats them 25-54 in most dayparts. When you consider that WXKS/WKOX has terrible signals, an all satellite lineup, and little promotion so far from Clear Channel, no wonder they've had a rough start. And as far as NPR goes, WBUR is a non-comm so it doesn't appear in the published 12+ ratings, but subscribers know that 90.9 often ranks in the top 5 or 6 overall and their 25-54 performance is impressive. So much for that ratings theory. Progressive talk formats won't be on par with right wing radio overnight, or even in five years. Liberal talkers have to build their audiences over time and eventually move to competitive signals, just like Rush and his clones did in the early to mid 90's. In markets where Air America and other progressive talkers are on city-grade signals and have at least some local programming, the early results are very positive. Still, it will take time. > Does anyone have figures for how well these talk shows do on the sat > broadcast? How about direct to cell-phone and direct streaming to > other wireless devices? It is far too early in the game to know how talk programming will do with new technologies. Both satellite services offer left and right wing channels and most nationally syndicated talk show hosts (both liberal and conservative) are dabbling in podcasting. I'm sure that younger listeners from both sides of the political aisle will sample some programming that suits their viewpoints. That could mean trouble for terrestrial talk stations down the road if this becomes widespread with younger talk listeners. > I assume that in five years, the music portion of radio will be > devastated by these new technologies, just as the recording industry > has been destroyed by downloaded and I-pods. Maybe local talk and > entertainment shows, s well as ethnic shows will be the last men > standing??? All forms of terrestrial programming will be affected by new technologies, not just music. With national hosts podcasting more and more coupled with the fact most local radio stations can't afford to program all local talkers 24/7, talk radio could be in trouble too. I see more Urban, foreign language (particularly Spanish) and infomercial programming coming to the AM & FM bands in the coming years if these new technologies take off the way they're expected to. --Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" From earthradio@getgoin.net Wed Aug 3 12:51:53 2005 From: earthradio@getgoin.net (Luke Steele) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 11:51:53 -0500 Subject: air america References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050802160647.0360ab80@mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <03e801c5984b$a7d6d290$0373a00c@INSPIRON> I think the future of public radio lies in stations like KCRW. We've got to move beyond this mentality that classical and talk are the "supreme" offerings of public radio. Luke Steele From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Aug 3 14:42:30 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 14:42:30 -0400 Subject: air america In-Reply-To: <03e801c5984b$a7d6d290$0373a00c@INSPIRON> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050802160647.0360ab80@mail.comcast.net> <03e801c5984b$a7d6d290$0373a00c@INSPIRON> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050803144124.02142ea0@mail.mac.com> At 12:51 PM 8/3/2005, Luke Steele wrote: >I think the future of public radio lies in stations like KCRW. We've got to >move beyond this mentality that classical and talk are the "supreme" >offerings of public radio. Luke, could you be a bit more specific? What is KCRW doing that is different from other public stations? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From scott@fybush.com Wed Aug 3 14:50:49 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 14:50:49 -0400 Subject: air america In-Reply-To: <03e801c5984b$a7d6d290$0373a00c@INSPIRON> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050802160647.0360ab80@mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050803144828.025df6f8@gwind.pair.com> At 11:51 AM 8/3/2005 -0500, Luke Steele wrote: >I think the future of public radio lies in stations like KCRW. We've got to >move beyond this mentality that classical and talk are the "supreme" >offerings of public radio. What stations like KCRW and WFUV and WXPN do is outstanding - no argument there. But their listenership doesn't come anywhere close to what the big public radio news-talkers do. Within public radio circles, it's well known that the news-talk audience gives by far the most at pledge time, followed (distantly) by classical and AAA audiences. Jazz listeners are by far the stingiest, for reasons only they can explain. From billo@shoreham.net Wed Aug 3 15:05:15 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 15:05:15 -0400 Subject: Pledging (was: air america) References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050802160647.0360ab80@mail.comcast.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20050803144828.025df6f8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <002301c5985e$48719c00$0300a8c0@windhamgroup.com> Scott tidbits: Within public radio circles, it's well known > that the news-talk audience gives by far the most at pledge time, followed > (distantly) by classical and AAA audiences. Jazz listeners are by far the > stingiest, for reasons only they can explain. ...perhaps more out of work artists listen to jazz? >From artsy Middlebury, Vermont, where sandals are worn even in snow and even toothbrushes are all-wheel drive, Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Aug 4 11:22:29 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:22:29 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap Message-ID: <1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com> http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=96528 The Herald reports that longtime WBZ reporter Flo Jonic was fired yesterday after the station refused to run the story she did on potential security flaws at the FBI's Boston office (AND after she expressed her displeasure in a memo to the entire newsroom staff). Interesting situation here: "(t)he FBI told WBZ that reporting such a story would be reckless and could put lives in danger". What's more important, our security or freedom of the press? I'd hate to see our adversaries take advantage of info like this getting out (security flaws at the fed agency) but there's also a chilling effect on the press. As the talk radio expression goes, "there's a slippery slope here..." From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Aug 4 11:33:22 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:33:22 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 11:22 AM -0400 8/4/05, Bob Nelson wrote: >http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=96528 > >The Herald reports that longtime WBZ reporter Flo Jonic was fired >yesterday after the station refused to run the story she did on >potential security flaws at the FBI's Boston office (AND >after she expressed her displeasure in a memo to the entire newsroom staff). > >Interesting situation here: "(t)he FBI told WBZ that reporting such a >story would be reckless and could put lives in danger". What's more >important, our security or freedom of the press? I'd hate to see our >adversaries take advantage of info like this getting out (security >flaws at the fed agency) but there's also a chilling effect on the >press. As the talk radio expression goes, "there's a slippery slope >here..." There's also the point that if such leaks are not reported, there is no pressure for them to be fixed, thus putting more lives in danger in the future. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Aug 4 11:48:30 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:48:30 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap In-Reply-To: References: <1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com> Interesting--the press as watchdog. Or to use a Jerry Williams term, muckraker. Then again if terrorists hear about a certain FBI office having flaws and take advantage of them...So either way there could be danger. > There's also the point that if such leaks are not reported, there is > no pressure for them to be fixed, thus putting more lives in danger > in the future. > > -- > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > From nostaticatall@comcast.net Thu Aug 4 14:33:43 2005 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 14:33:43 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com> <1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <56fd14305637820218815639dc45ba8b@comcast.net> Oh, what a steaming pile of crap that is! Conservatives love to throw the word ""terrorism" around as an excuse to scare people, muzzle the alleged "liberal media" and chip away at freedom of the press. Look, if that story was to air, I'm sure the FBI could make arrangements to address the problems and beef up security in compromised areas within hours. The real story is that the right wing federal government is trying to cover their asses after woefully underfunding homeland security over the last couple of years. This story makes them look bad. They intimidated WBZ into caving. That should scare the crap out of any newsperson no matter what your political leanings are. Lets see, the government intimidating the fourth estate....sounds like the old Soviet Union to me..... --Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Aug 4, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > Interesting--the press as watchdog. Or to use a Jerry Williams term, > muckraker. Then again if terrorists hear about a certain FBI office > having flaws and take advantage of them...So either way there could be > danger. > >> There's also the point that if such leaks are not reported, there is >> no pressure for them to be fixed, thus putting more lives in danger >> in the future. >> >> -- >> Larry Weil >> Lake Wobegone, NH >> > From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Aug 4 15:35:31 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 15:35:31 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap References: <1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com><1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com> <56fd14305637820218815639dc45ba8b@comcast.net> Message-ID: <034e01c5992b$ae987e40$1404fea9@xyz> > Oh, what a steaming pile of crap that is! Conservatives love to throw > the word ""terrorism" around as an excuse to scare people, muzzle the > alleged "liberal media" and chip away at freedom of the press. Look, > if that story was to air, I'm sure the FBI could make arrangements to > address the problems and beef up security in compromised areas within > hours. You are sure of that? You're an authority on the FBI, their strengths and practices? > The real story is that the right wing federal government is... The real story is that Flo Jonic was insubordinate to her superiors and was fired. It has nothing to do with right/left wing politics. > They intimidated WBZ into caving. Gee, I wasn't aware that you were in on that phone call. > That should scare the crap out of > any newsperson no matter what your political leanings are. The reality is that every reporter has an editor, news director or publisher who makes the final decisions as to what should be printed and broadcast and what should not. > Lets see, the government intimidating the fourth estate....sounds like > the old Soviet Union to me..... There is no indication that they enganged in "intimidating". They simply made a request. And, WBZ saw it as reasonable. End of story. From nostaticatall@comcast.net Thu Aug 4 16:07:37 2005 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 16:07:37 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap In-Reply-To: <034e01c5992b$ae987e40$1404fea9@xyz> References: <1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com><1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com> <56fd14305637820218815639dc45ba8b@comcast.net> <034e01c5992b$ae987e40$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <5cee97835f4165104cce88d876b6ab70@comcast.net> On Aug 4, 2005, at 3:35 PM, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >> Oh, what a steaming pile of crap that is! Conservatives love to throw >> the word ""terrorism" around as an excuse to scare people, muzzle the >> alleged "liberal media" and chip away at freedom of the press. Look, >> if that story was to air, I'm sure the FBI could make arrangements to >> address the problems and beef up security in compromised areas within >> hours. > > You are sure of that? You're an authority on the FBI, their strengths > and > practices? C'mon. This is the FBI, a major government agency. I'm sure that they can make changes quickly if necessary. A report on a few security weaknesses at an FBI building is no threat to national security. It's just another right wing scare tactic to suppress bad PR stories. I'm sure you're not an expert on the Iraq war but I'd bet you have an opinion on it. > >> The real story is that the right wing federal government is... > > The real story is that Flo Jonic was insubordinate to her superiors > and was > fired. > > It has nothing to do with right/left wing politics. I never addressed her being insubordinate. My outrage is that WBZ management, who's idea it was to investigate this story in the first place, didn't have the stones to back up her work and run it. > >> They intimidated WBZ into caving. > > Gee, I wasn't aware that you were in on that phone call. Were you in on the call that said they didn't? > >> That should scare the crap out of >> any newsperson no matter what your political leanings are. > > The reality is that every reporter has an editor, news director or > publisher > who makes the final decisions as to what should be printed and > broadcast and > what should not. True, but don't investigate a story if you don't intend on running it. It would be one thing if the story was false, but if the Herald piece was any indication, Jonik's facts were solid. > >> Lets see, the government intimidating the fourth estate....sounds like >> the old Soviet Union to me..... > > There is no indication that they enganged in "intimidating". > They simply made a request. And, WBZ saw it as reasonable. Were you in on that phone call too? We'll never know for sure whether WBZ "saw it as reasonable" or if they were instructed not to run the story. --Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu Aug 4 16:11:10 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 16:11:10 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: air america Message-ID: <21349038.1123186270565.JavaMail.root@wamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > From: Scott Fybush > To: "Luke Steele" , > > Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 14:50:49 -0400 > Subject: Re: air america > > What stations like KCRW and WFUV and WXPN do is outstanding - > no argument there. But their listenership doesn't come anywhere > close to what the big public radio news-talkers do. Within public > radio circles, it's well known that the news-talk audience gives by > far the most at pledge time, followed (distantly) by classical and > AAA audiences. Also, it's unlikely that Boston could support a AAA Public Radio station like WXPN or WFUV, because in their respective cities of Philly and NYC, there are no commercial AAA stations. Many years ago, WXPN and WFUV essentially morphed their formerly eclectic non-commercial programming into that which is similar to AAA formats, and both with Class B signals, they both successfully filled that niche in both cities, preventing a commercial AAA from making a go in both those markets. In the Boston market we have both WBOS and WXRV doing AAA, so there really isn't room for a non-comm to also do it. WUMB formats similarly to WFUV as to format elements, but niches their music in contemporary folk rather than trying to compete for AAA, which wouldn't be very viable with the commercial competion here. Eli Polonsky From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Aug 4 16:18:09 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 16:18:09 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com> <1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050804161622.02137780@mail.mac.com> At 11:48 AM 8/4/2005, Bob Nelson wrote: >Or to use a Jerry Williams term, muckraker. Come on, that term goes back way before Jerry Williams. I'm sure somebody here can tell us some of the history of muckraking journalism. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Aug 4 16:25:37 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 16:25:37 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap References: <1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com><1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com><56fd14305637820218815639dc45ba8b@comcast.net><034e01c5992b$ae987e40$1404fea9@xyz> <5cee97835f4165104cce88d876b6ab70@comcast.net> Message-ID: <03d601c59932$af130140$1404fea9@xyz> > >> Oh, what a steaming pile of crap that is! Conservatives love to throw > >> the word ""terrorism" around as an excuse to scare people, muzzle the > >> alleged "liberal media" and chip away at freedom of the press. Look, > >> if that story was to air, I'm sure the FBI could make arrangements to > >> address the problems and beef up security in compromised areas within > >> hours. > > > > You are sure of that? You're an authority on the FBI, their strengths > > and > > practices? > > C'mon. This is the FBI, a major government agency. I'm sure that they > can make changes quickly if necessary. A report on a few security > weaknesses at an FBI building is no threat to national security. It's > just another right wing scare tactic to suppress bad PR stories. > > I'm sure you're not an expert on the Iraq war but I'd bet you have an > opinion on it. But I would not second guess someone who is an expert....and where lives are at stake. You said you were "sure" that they could make the changes necessary. I'm just wondering how you can be so "sure" of the facts. > > The real story is that Flo Jonic was insubordinate to her superiors > > and was > > fired. > > It has nothing to do with right/left wing politics. > > My outrage is that WBZ > management, who's idea it was to investigate this story in the first > place, didn't have the stones to back up her work and run it. They saw the FBI request as reasonable....and that judgement is their's to make. > >> They intimidated WBZ into caving. > > > > Gee, I wasn't aware that you were in on that phone call. > > Were you in on the call that said they didn't? No, I didn't make any allegations one way or another.....you did. > > The reality is that every reporter has an editor, news director or > > publisher > > who makes the final decisions as to what should be printed and > > broadcast and > > what should not. > > True, but don't investigate a story if you don't intend on running it. That doesn't make sense....An investigation might lead to reasons why you would not run it. > It would be one thing if the story was false, but if the Herald piece > was any indication, Jonik's facts were solid. Again, it has nothing to do with the true/false...it has to do with insubordination, and a request that BZ saw as reasonable. Newspapers "hold" stories all the time. For all you know, WBZ is going to run the story tomorrow...or next week. > > There is no indication that they enganged in "intimidating". > > They simply made a request. And, WBZ saw it as reasonable. > > Were you in on that phone call too? We'll never know for sure whether > WBZ "saw it as reasonable" or if they were instructed not to run the > story. They saw the request as reasonale, because they did not run the story. You are the one jumping to judgments and making allegations. From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Aug 4 16:57:36 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:57:36 -0500 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap Message-ID: <20050804205736.43061CA08B@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org, raccoonradio@gmail.com >Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap >Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:22:29 -0400 > > > Interesting situation here: "(t)he FBI told WBZ that reporting such a > story would be reckless and could put lives in danger". What's more > important, our security or freedom of the press? I'd hate to see our > adversaries take advantage of info like this getting out (security > flaws at the fed agency) but there's also a chilling effect on the > press. As the talk radio expression goes, "there's a slippery slope > here..." Various news organizations have spotlighted lapses in security numerous times without recriminations. The Sunday "60 Minutes" showed how easy it is to infiltrate chemical plants and refineries; Bill Moyer's "Now" ran a segment on the terminal at Long Beach, CA where there are containers as far as the eye can see, but not the ability to check them for contraband; individual TV stations and newspapers have uncovered gaps in airport security. If reporters were hesitant to uncover any deficiencies in America's security apparatus, radio and TV news would be chock-a-block with missing blonde stories, movie star infidelity stories and athlete substance abusers. We should be thankful that our media have not stooped to that level! -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Aug 4 18:10:47 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:10:47 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20050804161622.02137780@mail.mac.com> References: <1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com> <1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com> <1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050804180818.02ef3c48@pop.registeredsite.com> >Larry wrote-- >Come on, that term goes back way before Jerry Williams. I'm sure somebody >here can tell us some of the history of muckraking journalism. It goes back to around the turn of the century (as in, late 1890s, early 1900s) and referred to a group of journalists who investigated the excesses of major corporations. (And believe me, when you look at what they investigated, some of the stuff they uncovered was appalling no matter what your personal politics might be.) Ida Tarbell, Lincoln Steffins and others wrote articles that totally changed the culture and led to major and very important consumer protections. A simple search for "muckrakers" ought to turn up their history, but they were some of the most respected investigative journalists of their time. From billo@shoreham.net Thu Aug 4 20:04:25 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 20:04:25 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap References: <1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com><1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com> <56fd14305637820218815639dc45ba8b@comcast.net> Message-ID: <006901c59951$3e58e0e0$0301a8c0@windhamgroup.com> David writes: This story makes them look bad. > They intimidated WBZ into caving. That should scare the crap out of > any newsperson no matter what your political leanings are. Could not agree with you more. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Thu Aug 4 20:09:41 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 20:09:41 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap References: <1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com><1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com><56fd14305637820218815639dc45ba8b@comcast.net> <034e01c5992b$ae987e40$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <006e01c59951$fa344f20$0301a8c0@windhamgroup.com> Joseph P. writes: > The reality is that every reporter has an editor, news director or > publisher > who makes the final decisions as to what should be printed and broadcast > and > what should not. ...and I agree with that point, as well. While it was the insubordination of Jonick that got her fired, it begs the question as to management's motivation and what it all means to news. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Thu Aug 4 20:11:23 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 20:11:23 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap References: <1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com> <1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <008301c59952$37266bc0$0301a8c0@windhamgroup.com> Bob writes: > Interesting--the press as watchdog. Or to use a Jerry Williams term, > muckraker. Then again if terrorists hear about a certain FBI office > having flaws and take advantage of them...So either way there could be > danger. Where's Jerry when you need him? Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Thu Aug 4 22:56:00 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 22:56:00 -0400 Subject: Muckrakers (was: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap) References: <1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com><1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com><1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050804180818.02ef3c48@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <000e01c59969$36ecc6b0$0301a8c0@windhamgroup.com> Donna writes: > It goes back to around the turn of the century (as in, late 1890s, early > 1900s) and referred to a group of journalists who investigated the > excesses of major corporations. (And believe me, when you look at what > they investigated, some of the stuff they uncovered was appalling no > matter what your personal politics might be.) I recall back in college in the early 80s the professor's lean in a class I was taking on this subject was definitely the angle that the press was out of control. I couldn't buy it. Settled for a B in the course but it was worth it. I suggested then and maintain moreso now that many (certainly not all) in the news business are not working hard enough, and not working smart enough. Rip n' read journalism is the stuff that cable news channels are made of after you strip away the news babes, hype, spin-opinion shows, graphics with big-boy-urgency-crap your pants voiceovers. But, if a plane crashes or if O.J. decides to go for a nice road trip again, then you're in clicker heaven. Newspapers are begging to print one more edition and raise the bar when things like the NY Times digs in on a SC Justice candidate's kids' adoption history. Journalism that is short-sighted and short-bus. But it is an awkward indicator that someone at the Gray Lady knows what 'digging' actually means, for better or for worse. Misapplied energies and resources. And I've not even gotten to what is left of radio news. I'm going to flip on the WCAX (3) 11 p.m. news. Believe it or not, between them and WPTZ (5) I am actually likely to learn something about what happened in Vermont and upstate NY after the six went to bed. And those guys are pulling down less than producers in the top 20. Go figure. Bill O'Neill From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Aug 4 23:26:37 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 23:26:37 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap In-Reply-To: <56fd14305637820218815639dc45ba8b@comcast.net> References: <1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42F2A42D.4917.309FA5@localhost> On 4 Aug 2005 at 14:33, David Tomm wrote: > Lets see, the government intimidating the fourth estate....sounds like > the old Soviet Union to me..... And Putin's Russia. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Aug 4 23:26:37 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 23:26:37 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap In-Reply-To: <03d601c59932$af130140$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <42F2A42D.27238.30A097@localhost> On 4 Aug 2005 at 16:25, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > But I would not second guess someone who is an expert....and where > lives are at stake. Come now, sure you would. If it were the Clinton Administration's expert. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Aug 4 23:26:37 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 23:26:37 -0400 Subject: Muckrakers (was: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap) In-Reply-To: <000e01c59969$36ecc6b0$0301a8c0@windhamgroup.com> Message-ID: <42F2A42D.21226.30A137@localhost> On 4 Aug 2005 at 22:56, Bill O'Neill wrote: > I recall back in college in the early 80s the professor's > lean in a class I was taking on this subject was definitely the angle > that the press was out of control. I couldn't buy it. > Settled for a B in the course but it was worth it. I notice the press is much more willing to give the Bush Administration the benefit of the doubt than it ever was for Clinton. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From mhiggs@gmail.com Fri Aug 5 00:23:02 2005 From: mhiggs@gmail.com (Matt Higgs) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 01:23:02 -0300 Subject: WQHR Presque Isle Message-ID: Citadel has moved it's radio stations into a new facility in the Star City. The new building also brought in changes for WQHR 96.1. The station has dumped it's ABC radio programming, brought in at least 2 DJs and now plays its own music. Haven't listened to the other stations in the Citadel cluster, but would presume the same is true for them. From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Aug 5 03:07:11 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 03:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap Message-ID: <20050805070711.B21765C427@mprdmxin.myway.com> Well, I wasn't implying that Jerry created that term but he did use it more than a few times :) --- On Thu 08/04, Larry Weil < kc1ih@mac.com > wrote: Come on, that term goes back way before Jerry Williams. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Aug 5 03:11:30 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 03:11:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: air america Message-ID: <20050805071130.A5EAD5C420@mprdmxin.myway.com> --- On Thu 08/04, Eli Polonsky < elipolo@earthlink.net > wrote: it's unlikely that Boston could support a AAA Public Radio station like WXPN or WFUV, because in their respective cities of Philly and NYC, there are no commercial AAA stations. In the Boston market we have both WBOS and WXRV doing AAA so there really isn't room for a non-comm to also do it. Good point! I like WAPS (Akron Public Schools) in Akron, OH which has a AAA format most of the time as well as specialty shows devoted to blues, folk, Irish, bluegrass, zydeco, "local music spotlights", etc. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Fri Aug 5 03:51:13 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 03:51:13 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap References: <42F2A42D.27238.30A097@localhost> Message-ID: <008801c59992$7cb15ac0$1404fea9@xyz> > Come now, sure you would. If it were the Clinton Administration's expert. Not when lives are in danger. From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Fri Aug 5 03:51:23 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 03:51:23 -0400 Subject: Muckrakers (was: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap) References: <42F2A42D.21226.30A137@localhost> Message-ID: <008c01c59992$7d2e7a00$1404fea9@xyz> > I notice the press is much more willing to give the Bush Administration the benefit of the > doubt than it ever was for Clinton. Bush had a 9-11. Clinton had Lewinsky. From hykker@grolen.com Fri Aug 5 07:43:27 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 07:43:27 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap In-Reply-To: <56fd14305637820218815639dc45ba8b@comcast.net> References: <1fbbbced05080408223d9b2bc0@mail.gmail.com> <1fbbbced050804084860419b46@mail.gmail.com> <56fd14305637820218815639dc45ba8b@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050805073634.01b61560@pop3.grolen.com> At 02:33 PM 8/4/2005, David Tomm wrote: >Oh, what a steaming pile of crap that is! Conservatives love to throw the >word ""terrorism" around as an excuse to scare people, muzzle the alleged >"liberal media" and chip away at freedom of the press. Look, if that >story was to air, I'm sure the FBI could make arrangements to address the >problems and beef up security in compromised areas within hours. The >real story is that the right wing federal government is trying to cover >their asses after woefully underfunding homeland security over the last >couple of years. This story makes them look bad. They intimidated WBZ into >caving. That should scare the crap out of any newsperson no matter what >your political leanings are. > >Lets see, the government intimidating the fourth estate....sounds like the >old Soviet Union to me..... Whoa, dude! Chill! No one is "chipping away at freedom of the press" and we're a long way from the old Soviet Union. Do you also write press releases for the NRA (if we take Uzi's out of the hands of civilians we're on a slippery slope to a police state...after all these weapons have legitimate sporting uses, right?)? Funny, no one seems to mention the part of the article that says she was suspended previously for insubordination, which is exactly why she was let go this time. Yes, it can be frustrating for a reporter to have a story killed, but those decisions were not hers to make. I think you'll agree that CC'ing her memo to all newsroom employees was not a good career move. Not sure what she was trying to accomplish by doing that. From miscon@miscon.net Fri Aug 5 09:47:08 2005 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 09:47:08 -0400 Subject: Herald: WBZ fires Jonic after FBI story flap Message-ID: <200508050947.AA8389044@miscon.net> Sorry to join this thread so late in the discussion, and my apologies if what I say below has already been expressed. There are many ways to cover a story, or even to break one. Someone gave the green light to the investigation, and continued to do so through the process of assembling the story. Interesting that it appears that the FBI was "consulted" about it BEFORE it ran. Regardless, IF the FBI said that to run the story would create "national security problems," WBZ could have modified the story, hinting at the problems, and threatening to reveal them if not fixed within a certain period of time. Such an act would have alerted the public, put the FBI on notice, and had the potential as a great follow-up piece. But that's just how I thought it out. Anyway, I think I might have sent the same memo as Jonic - put a little pressure at the top AND alert fellow newspeople what's in store for them as they cover similar subjects. Jonic's firing has even a more chilling effect in the news industry. Mike Hey, go out an gather yer own damn news. From markwats@comcast.net Fri Aug 5 19:19:03 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 19:19:03 -0400 Subject: WZMY-TV Message-ID: <003e01c59a14$13d24d20$6f918318@Mark> An article in Friday's (8/5) Nashua Telegraph tells of the changes coming to what is now WNDS Channel 50 Derry NH. It appears they've applied for new call letters: WZMY, to match their new image called "My TV". In fact the Channel 50 folks had a booth at last weekend's Lowell Folk Festival sporting a banner with the "My TV" slogan, new calls and soliciting program ideas. Meterologist Al Kaprelian was on hand on Saturday proudly wearing his "My TV" t-shirt. Al will be staying put, as will Channel 50's other most-watched show, "Candlepin Stars & Strikes", Here's a link to the article: http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050805/BUSINESS/108050017 Mark Watson From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Aug 5 19:34:58 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 19:34:58 -0400 Subject: WZMY-TV In-Reply-To: <003e01c59a14$13d24d20$6f918318@Mark> References: <003e01c59a14$13d24d20$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050805193015.02141e40@mail.mac.com> At 07:19 PM 8/5/2005, Mark Watson wrote: >. Meterologist Al Kaprelian was on hand on Saturday proudly wearing >his "My TV" t-shirt. Al will be staying put But, it's obvious some of his reports are pre-recorded. Monday night I was watching him on the 10 PM mini-newscast, and he was in front of a radar image that only showed rain in northern NH. Fact was, at that time we were having a severe thunderstorm in southern NH, yet the area was clear on the radar image behind Al. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Fri Aug 5 21:55:43 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 18:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WZMY-TV In-Reply-To: <003e01c59a14$13d24d20$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <20050806015543.23006.qmail@web52301.mail.yahoo.com> --- Mark Watson wrote: > Channel 50 folks had a booth at last weekend's > Lowell Folk Festival > Meterologist Al Kaprelian was on hand on Saturday > proudly wearing his "My > TV" t-shirt. Al Kaprelian in a T-shirt? yeowww....My Eyes!!! ;-) JP Joe Pappalardo joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Sun Aug 7 11:32:50 2005 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 11:32:50 -0400 Subject: WZMY-TV References: <003e01c59a14$13d24d20$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <002801c59b65$45c2e590$6401a8c0@LizardHome> "Mark Watson" wrote: > An article in Friday's (8/5) Nashua Telegraph tells of the changes coming >to what is now WNDS Channel 50 Derry NH. Owner Diane Sutter is quoted as saying "...we want to give people a chance to have an impact, to have voice, and collectively, we'll build a great local station." Sounds just like that "We're building a NEW radio station! Call us and tell us what YOU'D like to hear!" promotion we've all heard before. From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sun Aug 7 14:52:26 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 14:52:26 -0400 Subject: WZMY-TV References: <003e01c59a14$13d24d20$6f918318@Mark> <002801c59b65$45c2e590$6401a8c0@LizardHome> Message-ID: <006101c59b81$29a20e60$1404fea9@xyz> From: "Roger Kirk" > Sounds just like that "We're building a NEW radio station! Call us and > tell us what YOU'D like to hear!" promotion we've all heard before. Sounds like a xeroxed plan from a "consultant". JP From mlaurence@mindspring.com Sun Aug 7 13:20:22 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 13:20:22 -0400 Subject: WZMY-TV In-Reply-To: <002801c59b65$45c2e590$6401a8c0@LizardHome> References: <003e01c59a14$13d24d20$6f918318@Mark> <002801c59b65$45c2e590$6401a8c0@LizardHome> Message-ID: <610D0C8E-320F-49B5-A433-131991FD5883@mindspring.com> On Aug 7, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Roger Kirk wrote: >> WNDS Channel 50 Derry NH. >> > > Owner Diane Sutter is quoted as saying "...we want to give people a > chance > to have an impact, to have voice, and collectively, we'll build a > great > local station." > > Sounds just like that "We're building a NEW radio station! Call us and > tell us what YOU'D like to hear!" promotion we've all heard before. True. But it's a lot better than "we're going to broadcast a home shopping network 24/7." We've all heard THAT before, too! Mark From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sun Aug 7 23:58:47 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 20:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Peter Jennings just passed at age 67 In-Reply-To: <006101c59b81$29a20e60$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <20050808035848.79908.qmail@web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Major networks announcing the passing of ANC News anchor Peter Jennings at the age of 67 from cancer. John B From fox893@yahoo.com Mon Aug 8 06:37:18 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 03:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Peter Jennings just passed at age 67 In-Reply-To: <20050808035848.79908.qmail@web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050808103719.85221.qmail@web54606.mail.yahoo.com> He was broadcaster from the start... He, apparently, had a radio show in Ottawa when he was only 9 years old. --- John Bolduc wrote: > Major networks announcing the passing of ANC News > anchor Peter Jennings at > the age of 67 from cancer. > > John B > Magic 104 North Conway, NH V: (603)356-8870 F: (603)356-8875 ***Commercial Production Demo at: http://cooperfox.voice123.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Mon Aug 8 11:15:22 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 11:15:22 -0400 Subject: Peter Jennings just passed at age 67 References: <20050808103719.85221.qmail@web54606.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007301c59c2e$7cb9b0a0$1404fea9@xyz> > He was broadcaster from the start... He, apparently, > had a radio show in Ottawa when he was only 9 years > old. And the article said he was a HS dropout.(???) That was surprising. From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Aug 8 17:23:11 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:23:11 -0500 Subject: Mark Jurkowitz on Dick Gordon Firing Message-ID: <20050808212311.4753BC610C@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://lists.BostonRadio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/attachments/20050808/afb483f8/attachment.ksh From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Aug 8 18:03:14 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 17:03:14 -0500 Subject: Mark Jurkowitz on Dick Gordon Firing (Correction) Message-ID: <20050808220314.9EF30E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://lists.BostonRadio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/attachments/20050808/57dd88d7/attachment.ksh From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Aug 8 18:55:14 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 17:55:14 -0500 Subject: Boston Sunday Globe Has TWO Radio Articles Message-ID: <20050808225514.88C88C610C@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://lists.BostonRadio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/attachments/20050808/c800d633/attachment.ksh From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Aug 8 19:02:18 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:02:18 -0500 Subject: Arbitron Ratings For Portland Out; WLVP Tanks Message-ID: <20050808230219.1F16FC610C@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://lists.BostonRadio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/attachments/20050808/7e5e7cec/attachment.ksh From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Aug 8 20:43:52 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 20:43:52 -0400 Subject: Arbitron Ratings For Portland Out; WLVP Tanks In-Reply-To: <20050808230219.1F16FC610C@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050808203938.031596f0@pop.registeredsite.com> At 06:02 PM 8/8/2005 -0500, Laurence Glavin wrote: >The Arbitron ratings for Portland, ME are available at allaccess.com, >and the numbers for WLVP-AM 870 sank like a stone. The markets where AAR seem to be doing best are in Red States. Btw, when I was in Portland a couple of weeks ago, the station didn't seem to be airing the full AAR schedule-- maybe they pick and choose? Meanwhile, what irritates me as a consultant is that I hear a number of things AAR is doing wrong that they should be doing better [note to ideologues on the list-- this is NOT about right wing versus left wing-- it's a comment about doing interesting radio shows versus doing boring ones]; but every time I try to approach the AAR executives, they say they have it handled and they know what they are doing and they don't need any help... sigh... From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Aug 9 01:21:41 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 01:21:41 -0400 Subject: WHAV has new vice president Message-ID: <0bca01c59ca2$3d32c6a0$1404fea9@xyz> Old timers in the Merrimack Valley might remember this name. >From the Sunday Eagle-Tribune: >> WHAV has new vice president "Veteran broadcaster Steven M. Amirault has been named vice president of 'The Wave', WHAV.NET, a locally owned and operated internet radio station providing soft rock, news, weather, sports and syndicated talk shows. Amirault has 20 years of experience in the broadcasting industry. He has worked as a discjockey, announcer, program director and account manager at radio stations throughout the Merrimack Valley." << Funny, I wouldn'ty think that an operation like this would need a "vice president". I wonder who the "president" is? Also, it's good to know that Steve Amirault is alive and in good health! He dissapperaed from the local radio scene when he left WCAP. I hadn't heard anything about him since. Has anyone heard (or heard of) WHAV.net before this? IS it based in Haverhill? Is that the reason for picking up the WHAV calls/name? JP From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue Aug 9 07:41:00 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 07:41:00 -0400 Subject: Mark Persky un-Frank'd Message-ID: <13619bf135efb0.135efb013619bf@nyroc.rr.com> http://www.wmtw.com/news/4823363/detail.html Mark Persky, who left The Blimp after 28 people years (that's 140 in radio years), spent three weeks in the employ of Nassau Broadcasting's Frank in Portland and is no longer with the station. wither goest the Marquis De Persqui now? From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Tue Aug 9 16:26:00 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 16:26:00 -0400 Subject: Arbitron Ratings For Portland Out; WLVP Tanks Message-ID: <200508091626.AA34144582@mail.ttlc.net> From: Donna Halper wrote: >...but every time I try to approach the AAR executives, they say >they have it handled and they know what they are doing and they >don't need any help... sigh... My Mind Is Made Up. Don't Confuse Me With The Facts. From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Aug 9 20:32:46 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 20:32:46 -0400 Subject: Mark Persky un-Frank'd References: <13619bf135efb0.135efb013619bf@nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <000501c59d43$0903a290$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Weird. From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Aug 9 20:46:02 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 20:46:02 -0400 Subject: Portland Ratings Message-ID: <003a01c59d44$e21b63f0$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Who says AM is dead? In Portland, WGAN is #1 12+. That hasn't happened in how long? Maybe 25 years. Frank is #2 but numbers are down slightly. Who says Oldies are dead? A good book for WYNZ. It must be Chuck Igo's good work. Saga has 3 of the top 5 stations. Right wing talker WLOB, with a lineup mostly of Fox hosts, had ratings 150% higher than the local Air America station. And that is with competition from WGAN. The Air America station tied with WBZ and Bob Bitner's WJTO -- which got a whole number in the ratings! From n1qgs@yahoo.com Wed Aug 10 17:13:00 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WZMY-TV Cancels bowling In-Reply-To: <003e01c59a14$13d24d20$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <20050810211300.29523.qmail@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Per the (Nashua) Telegraph, there is an article about the demise of bowling on WNDS, contrary to previous reports. http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050810/NEWS01/50810003 John B Derry NH From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Aug 10 16:57:34 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:57:34 -0500 Subject: Portland Ratings Message-ID: <20050810205734.CC38BCA08B@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daniel Billings" >To: bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Portland Ratings >Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 20:46:02 -0400 > > Who says AM is dead? In Portland, WGAN is #1 12+. That hasn't > happened in how long? Maybe 25 years. > > Frank is #2 but numbers are down slightly. > > Who says Oldies are dead? A good book for WYNZ. It must be Chuck > Igo's good work. > > Saga has 3 of the top 5 stations. > > Right wing talker WLOB, with a lineup mostly of Fox hosts, had > ratings 150% higher than the local Air America station. And that > is with competition from WGAN. > > The Air America station tied with WBZ and Bob Bitner's WJTO -- > which got a whole number in the ratings! Alternative right-wing yakkers don't always fare that well; Boston's WTTT-AM 1150 has yet to show any kind of number to the right of the decimal point after YEARS of fairly well-know syndicated hosts (Praeger, Bennett, Medved, Reagan, Schlessinger, etc). Many have posted on this site about AM 1150's signal shortcomings, but it IS a full-time 5,000 watt station below the police calls... thus somewhat superior to the WXKS-AM/WKOS duo. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Wed Aug 10 18:09:40 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:09:40 -0400 Subject: WZMY-TV Cancels bowling Message-ID: <200508101809.AA2375418150@mail.ttlc.net> John Bolduc scrivened: >Per the (Nashua) Telegraph, there is an article about the demise of >bowling on WNDS, contrary to previous reports. "We're building a new TV Station. Get your parent's permission to call us and tell us what you'd like to see." From billo@shoreham.net Wed Aug 10 18:39:19 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:39:19 -0400 Subject: Can WBZ's management/Viacom et al, be sued? Message-ID: <42FA8217.3010904@shoreham.net> Dave Faneuf writes: >> I would like to take a different tact. Suppose "hypothetically" that WBZ, or pick your favorite radio broadcast news outlet, had launched an investigation involving the Boston FBI or Massport, etc. in July 2001 instead of July 2005. "Hypothetically" in August 2001 WBZ, or pick your favorite radio broadcast news outlet, got the finished product back from its reporter and it showed there was a problem at the Boston FBI or Massport, but the powers that be at WBZ or pick your favorite radio broadcast news outlet decided to hold the story from broadcast in order to release it during the fall book. On September 11, 2001, well we know what happened. Here is my question. Given the hypothetical I outlined, would, could, or should the manager(s) at WBZ or pick your favorite radio broadcast news outlet that decided to withhold "my hypothetical" story in order to release it at a time that could benefit their station in the ratings, and ultimately financially, be brought up on civil or criminal charges? << From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Aug 10 18:59:10 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:59:10 -0400 Subject: Portland Ratings References: <20050810205734.CC38BCA08B@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <002001c59dff$398a1860$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Certainly superior at night (although not in MetroWest or parts of the North Shore). Decidedly inferior to the 1200/1430 combo nearly everywhere in the market during the day. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Daniel Billings" ; Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Portland Ratings > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Daniel Billings" > >To: bri@bostonradio.org > >Subject: Portland Ratings > >Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 20:46:02 -0400 > > > > > Who says AM is dead? In Portland, WGAN is #1 12+. That hasn't > > happened in how long? Maybe 25 years. > > > > Frank is #2 but numbers are down slightly. > > > > Who says Oldies are dead? A good book for WYNZ. It must be Chuck > > Igo's good work. > > > > Saga has 3 of the top 5 stations. > > > > Right wing talker WLOB, with a lineup mostly of Fox hosts, had > > ratings 150% higher than the local Air America station. And that > > is with competition from WGAN. > > > > The Air America station tied with WBZ and Bob Bitner's WJTO -- > > which got a whole number in the ratings! > > Alternative right-wing yakkers don't always fare that well; > Boston's WTTT-AM 1150 has yet to show any kind of number to > the right of the decimal point after YEARS of fairly > well-know syndicated hosts (Praeger, Bennett, Medved, > Reagan, Schlessinger, etc). Many have posted on this > site about AM 1150's signal shortcomings, but it IS > a full-time 5,000 watt station below the police calls... > thus somewhat superior to the WXKS-AM/WKOS duo. > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. > http://datingsearch.lycos.com > > From mamros@MIT.EDU Wed Aug 10 21:47:50 2005 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:47:50 -0400 Subject: Can WBZ's management/Viacom et al, be sued? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:39:19 EDT." <42FA8217.3010904@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <200508110147.j7B1lo4l002649@mint-square.mit.edu> >Given the hypothetical I outlined, would, could, or should the manager(s) >at WBZ or pick your favorite radio broadcast news outlet that decided to >withhold "my hypothetical" story in order to release it at a time that >could benefit their station in the ratings, and ultimately financially, >be brought up on civil or criminal charges? << No more so than if said manager decided to air said "hypothetical" story, and someone else took advantage of the reported (but unfixed) problem to cause damage. The only time there would be liability, IMO, is if someone knows that somebody else is plotting a criminal act, and fails to report that fact to the authorities. Of course, in civil court, anybody can file a lawsuit against anyone else. Doesn't mean the suit will succeed, of course. But when you have relatives of The Station fire victims filing suits against a radio station (?) and a beer company (???) for sponsoring the concert - well, that's just a case of trying to hit the deepest pockets one can find... -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Aug 10 22:26:46 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:26:46 -0400 Subject: Can WBZ's management/Viacom et al, be sued? References: <42FA8217.3010904@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <000e01c59e1c$1f7680e0$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Interest Boston Radio" Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:39 PM Subject: Can WBZ's management/Viacom et al, be sued? >> Here is my question. > > Given the hypothetical I outlined, would, could, or should the manager(s) > at WBZ or pick your favorite radio broadcast news outlet that decided to > withhold "my hypothetical" story in order to release it at a time that > could benefit their station in the ratings, and ultimately financially, > be brought up on civil or criminal charges? << Certainly not criminal. What law would they have broken? I also doubt a court would let a civil suit go too far. I think the a court would find compelling the argument that allowing editorial decisions to be second guessed by courts in civil suits would do great damage to the First Amendment. Free speech and freedom of the press protect good decisions and bad decisions. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Aug 10 23:40:32 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:40:32 -0400 Subject: Can WBZ's management/Viacom et al, be sued? In-Reply-To: <42FA8217.3010904@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <42FA9070.6662.4AD6C7@localhost> On 10 Aug 2005 at 18:39, Bill O'Neill wrote: > Given the hypothetical I outlined, would, could, or should the > manager(s) at WBZ or pick your favorite radio broadcast news outlet > that decided to withhold "my hypothetical" story in order to release > it at a time that could benefit their station in the ratings, and > ultimately financially, be brought up on civil or criminal charges? << Why do you think there would be civil or criminal charges for a decision to hold a story? Or for a decision to run it later? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Aug 10 23:40:32 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:40:32 -0400 Subject: Portland Ratings In-Reply-To: <20050810205734.CC38BCA08B@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <42FA9070.14519.4AD7FD@localhost> On 10 Aug 2005 at 15:57, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Alternative right-wing yakkers don't always fare that well; > Boston's WTTT-AM 1150 has yet to show any kind of number to > the right of the decimal point after YEARS of fairly > well-know syndicated hosts (Praeger, Bennett, Medved, > Reagan, Schlessinger, etc). Many have posted on this > site about AM 1150's signal shortcomings, but it IS > a full-time 5,000 watt station below the police calls... > thus somewhat superior to the WXKS-AM/WKOS duo. Below the police calls? Didn't police calls used to be around 1700? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From billo@shoreham.net Thu Aug 11 06:51:19 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:51:19 -0400 Subject: Can WBZ's management/Viacom et al, be sued? In-Reply-To: <42FA9070.6662.4AD6C7@localhost> References: <42FA9070.6662.4AD6C7@localhost> Message-ID: <42FB2DA7.4090208@shoreham.net> Just for clarification, Dave Faneuf actually was the author of the message. I've not chimed in on this string yet. - I was simply posting to the listserv for him as he was having some technical problems posting. Thanks! Bill O'Neill A. Joseph Ross wrote: >On 10 Aug 2005 at 18:39, Bill O'Neill wrote: > > > >>Given the hypothetical I outlined, would, could, or should the >>manager(s) at WBZ or pick your favorite radio broadcast news outlet >>that decided to withhold "my hypothetical" story in order to release >>it at a time that could benefit their station in the ratings, and >>ultimately financially, be brought up on civil or criminal charges? << >> >> > >Why do you think there would be civil or criminal charges for a decision to hold a story? Or >for a decision to run it later? > > > -- -- William F. O'Neill, Jr., CDMS, CVRC VT Certified Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor #V0044 WINDHAM INJURY MANAGEMENT GROUP 2763 Route 74 East, Shoreham, VT 05770 Phone/Fax: 802-897-2882 -- This e-mail, including attachments, is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mis-transmission. If you have received this email in error, please notify me via return e-mail and permanently delete the original and destroy all copies. Thank you. From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Aug 11 10:03:17 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 07:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: They through the switch in Nashua, but it's WEVS not WSMN. Message-ID: <20050811140317.95069.qmail@web30704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I just noticed that Nashua now has two New Hampshire Public Radio Stations. The 88.3 slot now has WEVS on the air as well as the translator at 90.3 still being on the air. I hadn't scanned the FM dial in Nashua for a couple of weeks, so WEVS could have been on for several days now. In my RFI hellhole at Hewlett-Packard off Exit 7 in Nashua, the 90.3 signal barely makes it, the 88.3 signal is full scale, even with the attenuator turned on! John B Derry NH From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Aug 11 11:46:03 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: They through the switch in Nashua, but it's WEVS not WSMN. In-Reply-To: <20050811140317.95069.qmail@web30704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050811154603.89315.qmail@web30712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "They through the switch" Okay, what was I thinking about, Thoreau?? They throw the switch is what I meant! From tklaundry@juno.com Thu Aug 11 12:15:04 2005 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:15:04 -0400 Subject: My hypothetical Message-ID: <20050811.121504.3400.3.tklaundry@juno.com> My hypothetical assumes that the reporter uncovered information about lax security that could have prevented a catastrophic event but that the hypothetical news outlet decided to delay broadcast until sweeps which occur AFTER said catastrophic event occurs. Criminal charges? I suppose I (not being an attorney) would look through the statues regarding accessory before the fact. Civil suits? I would think that other occupants of the building might have grounds to bring a suit against the hypothetical news outlet for squashing the story and the FBI for allowing the conditions to occur. (maybe even find out what beer they drink and sue them too! LOL) My hypothetical does not assume the government applied pressure on the hypothetical news outlet to kill the story, only that the news organization was aware of a potential for public harm and instead of reporting the story immediately, decided to not to kill the story, but to hold the story until an important ratings period and during that "holding" period the catastrophic event that might have been exposed and/or prevented, occurs. From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Aug 11 15:26:14 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:26:14 -0400 Subject: They through the switch in Nashua, but it's WEVS not WSMN. In-Reply-To: <20050811140317.95069.qmail@web30704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050811140317.95069.qmail@web30704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050811152338.02146108@mail.mac.com> At 10:03 AM 8/11/2005, John Bolduc wrote: >In my RFI hellhole at Hewlett-Packard off Exit 7 in Nashua, the 90.3 >signal barely makes it, the 88.3 signal is full scale, even with the >attenuator turned on! I hope they kill the 90.3 signal soon, so I'll have a shot at hearing WAMC once again. From North Salem, Nashua is the same antenna heading as Mt. Greylock (TX location of WAMC). Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Aug 11 16:44:46 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:44:46 -0500 Subject: Portland Ratings Message-ID: <20050811204446.55A50E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://lists.BostonRadio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/attachments/20050811/43c86a78/attachment.ksh From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Aug 11 16:56:06 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:56:06 -0500 Subject: They through the switch in Nashua, but it's WEVS not WSMN. Message-ID: <20050811205606.EA261CA08B@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://lists.BostonRadio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/attachments/20050811/b18492bf/attachment.ksh From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Aug 11 17:03:42 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:03:42 -0400 Subject: Portland Ratings References: <20050811204446.55A50E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000901c59eb8$28441a10$6401a8c0@pastor2> THAT'S a bit of news. I never knew Carlin worked in Boston. I first heard his name associated with KHJ, I think. I loved "Wonderful WINO." Ah, the memories . . . Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Daniel Billings" ; Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Portland Ratings > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "A. Joseph Ross" > >To: "Daniel Billings" , bri@bostonradio.org, "Laurence Glavin" > Subject: Re: Portland Ratings > Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:40:32 -0400 > > > > > On 10 Aug 2005 at 15:57, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > > > > Alternative right-wing yakkers don't always fare that well; > > > Boston's WTTT-AM 1150 has yet to show any kind of number to > > > the right of the decimal point after YEARS of fairly well-know > > > syndicated hosts (Praeger, Bennett, Medved, > > > Reagan, Schlessinger, etc). Many have posted on this > > > site about AM 1150's signal shortcomings, but it IS > > > a full-time 5,000 watt station below the police calls... > > > thus somewhat superior to the WXKS-AM/WKOS duo. > > > > Below the police calls? Didn't police calls used to be around 1700? > > > > -- > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > I was paraphrasing George Carlin's "Wonderful WINO" skit; > he used to be a DJ at WVDA-AM 1260, and he probably considered > THAT station to be just below the police calls compared to > WNAC, WHDH and WBZ. > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > > Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages > > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 > > > From tklaundry@juno.com Thu Aug 11 18:51:32 2005 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:51:32 -0400 Subject: My hypothetical Message-ID: <20050811.185132.3200.1.tklaundry@juno.com> On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:42:03 -0400 "Daniel Billings" writes: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Faneuf" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:15 PM > Subject: My hypothetical > Neither a person or a news organization has a legal duty to report. > > If I heard Person A say that he was going to kill Person B, I have > no duty > to tell anyone what I know, even if I believe it. (Some > professionals are > mandatory reporters under statutes, but they are the exceptions to > the > general rule.) > > For me to have criminal liability as an accessory, I would have to > do > something to help or encourage Person A before the killing or I > would have > to help cover up the crime or help Person A escape or get away. Again, I'm not an attorney, but didn't they expand the laws regarding criminal liability following the Big Dan's Rape Case in New Bedford a number of years ago? Regardless of criminal liability I would think it would certainly be within the realm of possiblity that a successful civil suit might be filed depending upon the information gathered and withheld and whether or not it could have reasonably prevented the catastrophic event. df From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Aug 11 19:10:51 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:10:51 -0400 Subject: My hypothetical In-Reply-To: <20050811.185132.3200.1.tklaundry@juno.com> References: <20050811.185132.3200.1.tklaundry@juno.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050811190949.02133b98@mail.mac.com> At 06:51 PM 8/11/2005, Dave Faneuf wrote: >Regardless of criminal liability I would think it would certainly be >within the realm of possiblity that a successful civil suit might be >filed depending upon the information gathered and withheld and whether or >not it could have reasonably prevented the catastrophic event. >df > I don't think you could sue the FBI. Sovereign immunity? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Aug 11 18:42:03 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:42:03 -0400 Subject: My hypothetical References: <20050811.121504.3400.3.tklaundry@juno.com> Message-ID: <001301c59ec5$e504a540$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Faneuf" To: Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:15 PM Subject: My hypothetical > My hypothetical assumes that the reporter uncovered information about lax > security that could have prevented a catastrophic event but that the > hypothetical news outlet decided to delay broadcast until sweeps which > occur AFTER said catastrophic event occurs. > > Criminal charges? I suppose I (not being an attorney) would look through > the statues regarding accessory before the fact. > > Civil suits? I would think that other occupants of the building might > have grounds to bring a suit against the hypothetical news outlet for > squashing the story and the FBI for allowing the conditions to occur. > (maybe even find out what beer they drink and sue them too! LOL) Neither a person or a news organization has a legal duty to report. If I heard Person A say that he was going to kill Person B, I have no duty to tell anyone what I know, even if I believe it. (Some professionals are mandatory reporters under statutes, but they are the exceptions to the general rule.) For me to have criminal liability as an accessory, I would have to do something to help or encourage Person A before the killing or I would have to help cover up the crime or help Person A escape or get away. From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Aug 11 19:13:51 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: They threw the switch in Nashua, but it's WEVS not WSMN. In-Reply-To: <20050811205606.EA261CA08B@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20050811231351.16957.qmail@web30715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This Thursday afternoon as I left work in Nashua, W212AF 90.3 was on the air , but I lost it to co-channel in Hudson, about 5 miles from the tranmitter. I can usually hear this signal well up into Londonderry and Derry. John B Derry From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Aug 11 20:27:40 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:27:40 -0400 Subject: My hypothetical References: <20050811.185132.3200.1.tklaundry@juno.com> Message-ID: <000f01c59ed4$a66db470$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Faneuf" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:51 PM Subject: Re: My hypothetical > Regardless of criminal liability I would think it would certainly be > within the realm of possiblity that a successful civil suit might be > filed depending upon the information gathered and withheld and whether or > not it could have reasonably prevented the catastrophic event. Maybe, but it would be completely unprecedented and would go against the long standing rule that there is no duty to report. I don't know what happened after the Big Dan's case. It may be that Mass. has a statute that covers such situations. The Commenwealth has a lot of screwy laws. From billo@shoreham.net Thu Aug 11 19:47:11 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:47:11 -0400 Subject: My hypothetical In-Reply-To: <20050811.185132.3200.1.tklaundry@juno.com> References: <20050811.185132.3200.1.tklaundry@juno.com> Message-ID: <42FBE37F.8040400@shoreham.net> Dave Faneuf wrote: >Regardless of criminal liability I would think it would certainly be >within the realm of possiblity that a successful civil suit might be >filed depending upon the information gathered and withheld and whether or >not it could have reasonably prevented the catastrophic event. >df > > I would think that would be very likely. Not to mention how career limiting such a move would be, heavy conscience notwithstanding. I'm a mandated reporter on two fronts, as a counselor and as an EMT, as it would pertain to suspicion of abuse of a child, elderly, disabled. But that is a different situation altogether. In early EMS trainings, scenarios were floated such as assisting a patient in his room where illegal substances may be present but not in plain view and not contributing to the injury. In such a case, an EMT is ethically expected to not volunteer that information with legal authorities who may have overlooked the substance. Not something I hope to ever be faced with. The hypothetical Dave constructs leads me to think that something of such grand scale that it could even rise to a national security issue would make sweeps week never get to happen. File under: If there's no one to listen and the diaries all melt-down, is it still worthy of a Fourth Estate ataboy? Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Thu Aug 11 21:25:27 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:25:27 -0400 Subject: My hypothetical posting Message-ID: <42FBFA87.6000903@shoreham.net> POSTED FOR DAVE FANEUF Larry wrote: "I don't think you could sue the FBI. Sovereign immunity? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH" I believe you are correct. My hypothetical involves the question of criminal/civil action against the hypothetical news organization and/or management of said hypothetical news organization that made the decision. Not the government or the FBI. df From n1qgs@yahoo.com Fri Aug 12 10:06:13 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 07:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WEVS 88.3 Nashua NH on 7 second delay, but the 90.3 translator in Nashua is not In-Reply-To: <20050811231351.16957.qmail@web30715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050812140613.60525.qmail@web30708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I noticed driving in to work this morning that the Nashua 90.3 signal for NH Public Radio is in sync with the primary station WEVO 89.1 Concord NH. However, the new WEVS signal at 88.3 Nashua NH, is on a delay of about 7 seconds. Does anyone else find this unuaual? John B Derry From hmglaz@webtv.net Fri Aug 12 16:22:51 2005 From: hmglaz@webtv.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:22:51 -0400 Subject: '80s music, album tracks on WDRC-FM Message-ID: <18188-42FD051B-3920@storefull-3352.bay.webtv.net> WDRC-FM Hartford has introduced some surprising new material to its music mix over the past couple of weeks. Last week, I heard Bruce Springsteen's "Rosalita" and Van Morrison's "Tupelo Honey," neither of which were singles. Today, I heard Men At Work's "Down Under" and one of Foreigner's '80s hits whose name escapes me, in addition to Earth Wind and Fire's "After the Love is Gone," which I'm pretty sure was an '80s song, too. And in two hours of listening, I heard not one reference to "Big Hits of the '60s and '70s," just "Big Hits 102.9" and "Big Hits DRC-FM." Also heard: concert versions of several songs, including Rod Stewart's "Having a Party" (the old Sam Cooke song). All of these songs are being mixed in with the '60s and '70s DRC-FM staples that have been on the playlist for years (Wildweeds' "No Good to Cry," Righteous Brothers' "Ebb Tide," Billy Stewart's "Summertime," etc.) as well as the hits that all other oldies ... ummm, "big hits" ... stations play. So what's going on here? A creeping transition to "Jack"-type format or just one of those periodic playlist tweaks we've seen from this station over the years? Howard From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Aug 12 17:36:32 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:36:32 -0500 Subject: WEVS 88.3 Nashua NH on 7 second delay, but the 90.3 translator in Nashua is not Message-ID: <20050812213632.31966E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Bolduc" >To: "John Bolduc" , boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: WEVS 88.3 Nashua NH on 7 second delay, but the 90.3 translator in Nashua is not >Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 07:06:13 -0700 (PDT) > > I noticed driving in to work this morning that the Nashua 90.3 signal for > NH Public Radio is in sync with the primary station WEVO 89.1 Concord NH. > However, the new WEVS signal at 88.3 Nashua NH, is on a delay of about 7 > seconds. Does anyone else find this unuaual? > > John B > Derry I guess it has to do with digital or IBOC broadcasting. WBUR uses IBOC but is not delayed; it's the same programming at the same time as on WMEA-FM when they're taking a live NPR feed, and I don't believe MPBN is IBOC yet. So here's how it goes: WBUR - real time WEVT - 7 seconds later WEVS - 7 seconds later than WEVO. WEVS almost serves as an archive! -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Aug 12 17:44:36 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:44:36 -0500 Subject: Voices From The Past Message-ID: <20050812214436.6A1F5E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://lists.BostonRadio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/attachments/20050812/bbd4849f/attachment.ksh From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Aug 12 17:55:36 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 17:55:36 -0400 Subject: Voices From The Past References: <20050812214436.6A1F5E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <002501c59f88$958de440$19eefea9@dstrassberg> The Dick Summer Binder and Binder spots run on the Al Franken show on the network, so they're not just on WLIB. I guess Binder and Binder buys WLIB during fringe time, which would explain why the spots are on Maddow's show, and also buys the Franken show on the network. WKOXKS carries several of those spots every weekday during the Franken show. I don't think I've heard them on other shows, however. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: Voices From The Past > My dial scanning today (08/12) brought voices from the past: > I usually listen to Rachel Maddow's wake-up show at 5:00 > am on WLIB-AM 1190 out of NYC. It comes in very well then, > so I get New York advertising rather than the occasional > spots plus repetitious PSA's from WXKS/WKOX that I heard > when power-up time for them was earlier. Anyway, one > commercial on WLIB was for a company called Binder & Binder, > voiced by Dick Summer, a formerly well-known WBZ-AM dj. > > Then later in the day, I happened upon "Battle Line with > Alan Nathan" on WCCM-AM 1490. His guest was Danny Schecter, > the news dissector (I guess he still calls himself that) discussing > shortcomings in US Intelligence pre-9/11. > Danny was on WBCN during the early years of the so-called > rock revolution. > > -- > _______________________________________________ > > Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages > > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Aug 12 18:37:33 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:37:33 -0400 Subject: WEVS 88.3 Nashua NH on 7 second delay, but the 90.3 translator in Nashua is not References: <20050812140613.60525.qmail@web30708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000b01c59f8e$6e7aef50$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" To: "John Bolduc" ; Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 10:06 AM Subject: Re: WEVS 88.3 Nashua NH on 7 second delay,but the 90.3 translator in Nashua is not >I noticed driving in to work this morning that the Nashua 90.3 signal for > NH Public Radio is in sync with the primary station WEVO 89.1 Concord NH. > However, the new WEVS signal at 88.3 Nashua NH, is on a delay of about 7 > seconds. Does anyone else find this unuaual? Maine Public Radio stations are also out of synch these days. I first noticed it last year. I tune between the Portland and Waterville stations during my commute and one is about 7 seconds behind the other. From gary@garysicecream.com Fri Aug 12 20:08:45 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 20:08:45 -0400 Subject: Board Ops needed Message-ID: <200508130041.j7D0fVwr053020@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> If anyone is looking for a part-time entry level job as a board-op, please contact me off-list. Morning drive and/or afternoon drive. Gary Francis WCAP Lowell news@wcap.net From hykker@grolen.com Fri Aug 12 21:58:56 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:58:56 -0400 Subject: '80s music, album tracks on WDRC-FM In-Reply-To: <18188-42FD051B-3920@storefull-3352.bay.webtv.net> References: <18188-42FD051B-3920@storefull-3352.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050812215357.01b03e30@pop3.grolen.com> Howard Glazer wrote: >WDRC-FM Hartford has introduced some surprising new material to its >music mix over the past couple of weeks. Last week, I heard Bruce >Springsteen's "Rosalita" and Van Morrison's "Tupelo Honey," neither of >which were singles. I'm pretty sure the Van Morrison tune was released on a single, though it wasn't much of a hit. Was "Rosalita" a big T-40 hit in Hartford? It seems a very odd choice...not an especially familiar tune...you don't even hear it much on classic rock stations. >So what's going on here? A creeping transition to "Jack"-type format or >just one of those periodic playlist tweaks we've seen from this station >over the years? Sounds like a PD who's setting things up for a down fall book. From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Aug 13 01:53:56 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 01:53:56 -0400 Subject: Reel-to-reel tape machines ... Message-ID: <200508130625.j7D6POr8054386@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Does anyone have a site where I could find some reel-to-reel tape machines? I need a couple and at least one of them should be able to play the larger reels. Thanks!! Best, Anthony Schinella Program Director/News/A&E WKXL 1450 AM/Concord, NH http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com From stephanie@gordsven.com Sat Aug 13 15:30:13 2005 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Reel-to-reel tape machines ... In-Reply-To: <200508130625.j7D6POr8054386@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <200508130625.j7D6POr8054386@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: On Sat, 13 Aug 2005, radiotony wrote: > > Does anyone have a site where I could find some reel-to-reel tape machines? > I need a couple and at least one of them should be able to play the larger > reels. Thanks!! Whatever happened to Otari? That's been the work-horse for production studios everywhere. http://www.otari.com Ahhh those bring back memories. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY From paulranderson@charter.net Sun Aug 14 11:13:57 2005 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:13:57 -0400 Subject: '80s music, album tracks on WDRC-FM In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050812215357.01b03e30@pop3.grolen.com> References: <18188-42FD051B-3920@storefull-3352.bay.webtv.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20050812215357.01b03e30@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <6E08F6CF-67C8-494B-9BC9-7029C7BFA48C@charter.net> On Aug 12, 2005, at 9:58 PM, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > I'm pretty sure the Van Morrison tune was released on a single, > though it wasn't much of a hit. Was "Rosalita" a big T-40 hit in > Hartford? It seems a very odd choice...not an especially familiar > tune...you don't even hear it much on classic rock stations. Bruce Springsteen was very popular in Hartford, and played a LOT on radio (WHCN and WPLR in particular) before Born to Run made him a national star. (This was true of Billy Joel also, and Earth Wind and Fire was very popular too in the late 70s, at least at WCCC where I worked.) I'm sure WDRC and WPOP didn't play Rosalita. But assuming WDRC-FM's audience in 2005 listened to a number of stations in 1975, including those who played Bruce Springsteen, I find it a natural addition to their playlist, if they are aiming to play lots of popular songs from the 60s and 70s. WDRC-FM has always played songs that were popular in Hartford, regardless of their national success. It makes me feel old, though, to know Rosalita is being played on an "oldies" station. But I'm used to seeing restored '65 Mustangs driving down the street with "antique" series license plates... > Sounds like a PD who's setting things up for a down fall book. Explain please. Paul From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sun Aug 14 23:22:02 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:22:02 -0400 Subject: '80s music, album tracks on WDRC-FM Message-ID: <200508142322.AA723517628@mail.ttlc.net> SteveOrdinetz wrote: >I'm pretty sure the Van Morrison tune was released on a single, >though it wasn't much of a hit. I believe it was a single. WRKO played it. From hmglaz@webtv.net Mon Aug 15 09:54:43 2005 From: hmglaz@webtv.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:54:43 -0400 Subject: '80s music, album tracks on WDRC-FM Message-ID: <11721-43009EA3-5062@storefull-3355.bay.webtv.net> As has been mentioned, Springsteen has been huge in Connecticut for years. "Rosalita" is a staple on WPLR, and used to be on WHCN as well before the "River" changeover. FWIW, the DRC Web site no longer includes the "Big Hits of the '60s and '70s" slogan, just "Big Hits 102.9" and a crawl that reads "DRC-FM ... playing the biggest hits!" Also, Mike Stevens was axed as morning co-host last week -- after last Monday's show, according to the Hartford Courant. Now co-hosting with Beth Bradley is John "Cadillac" Saville, who's been doing weekend and fill-in work at DRC for a year or so. His best-known full-time radio gig was as part of the original lineup (and music director) at WWYZ (92.5) when it flipped from soft AC to country in the late '80s. Howard From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Aug 15 11:25:34 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:25:34 -0400 Subject: Weather Channel logo, programming Message-ID: <1fbbbced05081508252be5e1e@mail.gmail.com> (About cable TV but since we get into other types of broadcasting...) Weather Channel has new logo and programming. How about showing us info about thunderstorms rolling through the area instead of showing us old footage of hurricanes? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1463682/posts ----------------------------------- "Weather Channel" in Judgement City (in the movie "Defending Your Life": 74 DEGREES AND SUNNY ALL THE TIME (always good weather in Heaven!) In Boston there's no smooth jazz station so just about the only way (outside of a couple college radio specialty shows) to hear smooth jazz is to tune into those "weather on the 8s" forecasts. I nickname smooth jazz "Weather Channel Music" because I associate it with TWC! :) I'll tune in for the forecasts and radar but that's about it. Last night there were heavy thunderstorms in the Boston area. Power outages, flooding, etc. What was on the Weather Channel? Storm Stories--stuff about past hurricanes, etc. WHAT ABOUT NOW? HOW ABOUT a CURRENT weathercast? Guess I'll have to go online for that. From news@southstation.org Mon Aug 15 11:24:17 2005 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:24:17 -0400 Subject: Reel-to-reel tape machines ... In-Reply-To: <200508130625.j7D6POr8054386@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <20050815152421.IOJU29222.centrmmtao02.cox.net@main> I bought two reel machines off of eBay last year, both in great condition for 30 years old. -Larry Lovering The Radio Workshop > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of radiotony > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 1:54 AM > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: Reel-to-reel tape machines ... > > > Does anyone have a site where I could find some reel-to-reel > tape machines? > I need a couple and at least one of them should be able to > play the larger reels. Thanks!! > > Best, > Anthony Schinella > Program Director/News/A&E > WKXL 1450 AM/Concord, NH > http://www.wkxl1450.com > http://politizine.blogspot.com > > > From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Aug 15 15:08:24 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:08:24 -0400 Subject: WHAV has new vice president Message-ID: <200508151508.AA25231644@mail.ttlc.net> "Joseph Pappalardo" wrote: >IS it based in Haverhill? Is that the reason for picking up the WHAV >calls/name? The registrar of the domain is a man by name of Coco and his address is Primrose Street in Haverhill. Given that Steve Amirault has lived in Haverhill for most (if not all) of his life, I'd say yes, it's likely based in Haverhill. I also noticed that the Morning man is Steve Michaels and Steve Amirault's middle name is Michael. Co-incidence? From lorraine6474@usadatanet.net Mon Aug 15 16:49:04 2005 From: lorraine6474@usadatanet.net (Lorraine Smith) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 16:49:04 -0400 Subject: Weather Channel logo, programming References: <1fbbbced05081508252be5e1e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001601c5a1da$c6d83dd0$a411da42@Lorraine> Bob Nelson: >In Boston there's no smooth jazz station so just about the only way >(outside of a couple college radio specialty shows) to hear smooth >jazz is to tune into those "weather on the 8s" forecasts. I nickname >smooth jazz "Weather Channel Music" because I associate it with TWC! >Last night there were heavy thunderstorms in the Boston area. Power >outages, flooding, etc. What was on the Weather Channel? Storm >Stories--stuff about past hurricanes, etc. WHAT ABOUT NOW? HOW ABOUT a >CURRENT weathercast? Guess I'll have to go online for that. When the wx is severe and the wx channel is running storm stories, I tune to weatherscan (comcast). They run the wx for Brockton & Plymouth, close enough for me to see what's going on in MetroWest. During severe wx they usually just keep running the radar. They do not show a wide view to the west though. The music is awful! I mute the music, watch the radar and listen to all the activity on my scanner. Lorraine From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Aug 15 17:03:42 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WSMN did not make the switch today Message-ID: <20050815210342.15838.qmail@web30712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The rebirth of WSMN 1590 Nashua NH, did not take place today (at least not as of 4pm). The original newspaper reports indicated that today would be the day that WSMN came back on the air. John B Derry NH From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Aug 15 18:33:19 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 18:33:19 -0400 Subject: WSMN did not make the switch today References: <20050815210342.15838.qmail@web30712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003601c5a1e9$59b34560$19eefea9@dstrassberg> It will be a miracle if WSMN returns before the FCC pulls the license. Anyone who can return to the air within a year an AM that has lost its Tx site in this part of the country has got to have experience doing just that. He's got to know the ropes at the FCC, have good connections within the agency, good connections with the local body that issues building permits, have a good working relationship with a broadcast consulting engineer, and good connections in the used-broadcast-equipment market. In this case, the reported price paid for the dark station was so ridiculously high, we KNOW that the new owner is naive beyond all reason and doesn't have the requisite knowledge or connections. He's got only a year from whenever WSMN went dark to accomplish the job. I think he has at best a 30% chance of success. Unless he was sharp enough to make his payment to the previous owner contingent on successfully returning the station to the air under STA, he's pretty sure to lose his $300,000. For his sake, I hope that sum represents only a small part of his net worth. Actually, though, losing the $300,000 now might be better than paying it out and then throwing more good moeny after bad operating the station, which couldn't make money when it was running full power and will have even a worse chance if it tries to run flea power on 1590. Returning WSMN to the air this way is the misbegotten idea of a dreamer. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" To: Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:03 PM Subject: WSMN did not make the switch today > The rebirth of WSMN 1590 Nashua NH, did not take place today (at least not > as of 4pm). The original newspaper reports indicated that today would be > the day that WSMN came back on the air. > > John B > Derry NH From stevewest106@hotmail.com Tue Aug 16 10:29:11 2005 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:29:11 -0500 Subject: Weather Channel logo, programming In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced05081508252be5e1e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I noticed that too. So, I'm not crazy after all... LOL. Observations: 1. I don't like the blue square Weather Channel logo. The old one was better (picking nits here..) 2. Agree with you that there should be MUCH more emphasis on local severe weather and current US weather data. They have the technology, why not monitor thunderstorm activity more closely - hell, even I'm interested in thunderstorm data for, say, St. Louis while I'm living 500 miles away. Its better than 'Storm Stories' reruns. 3. Perhaps this would be better suggested in an email to station management, but I think it's about time they launched a WC2 channel, just to run "Storm Stories" and old hurricane data. Maybe do something with the History Channel just for Weather History. 4. I was thinking about this this morning... does anyone remember several years ago when the Weather Channel actually put out a CD of the best known 'hits' they played as background music? I remember it vaguely as containing some choice cuts including a favorite of mine from Al Dimiola(sp), and some others. Great Smooth Jazz album! So can anyone tell me if they still offer it or where I could get it? And... since a few of us actually pay attention to the Weather Channel programming, does that mean we're really BIG GEEKS, or just have too much time on our hands? From rjoc@webtv.net Tue Aug 16 11:01:45 2005 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:01:45 GMT Subject: Weather Channel logo, programming Message-ID: <20050816150145.7BA02D657@smtpout-3201.bay.webtv.net> I noticed it yesterday. Was in Ontario last week visiting friends and enjoyed "The Weather Network" Canada's version of TWC. Very similar format and style. As for TWC here in Maine, I think they do a very good job of showing and warning of severe weather. They even have an annoying (which it should be) beep that comes on before any red scrawl announcing severe weather. My only complaint is that the local weather is only given for Bangor. Being in Southwest Harbor, 45 miles away, the conditons are just about useless for us here along the coast. In the summer Bangor is usually 10-20 degrees warmer, and in the winter just the opposite. Being a weather-watcher I have a weather station and can keep track of local conditons. But I'm sure 90-percent of the viewers don;t follow conditons as close as I do. But, all in all, I think they do a pretty good jopb, although I could survive with a few less re-runs of Storm Stories. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Aug 16 13:09:45 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:09:45 -0400 Subject: Weather Channel logo, programming References: <20050816150145.7BA02D657@smtpout-3201.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <056c01c5a285$52184700$6401a8c0@xyz> > But, all in all, I think they do a pretty good jopb, although I could survive with a few less re-runs of Storm Stories. I never understood why they don't run "Local on the 8's" updates during Storm Stories. (It could even be an abbreviated version of "Local on the 8's".) From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Aug 16 13:55:31 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:55:31 -0400 Subject: ESPN Boston local shows Message-ID: <1fbbbced05081610551e96ccd5@mail.gmail.com> Media Blitz reports that ESPN 890/1400 will have a local show weekdays from 4 to 8 pm starting after Labor Day (host will be announced next week) and former Pats player Andre Tippett will do a Patriots pregame show on Monday nights. http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/blitz From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Aug 16 17:14:18 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:14:18 -0500 Subject: ESPN Boston local shows Message-ID: <20050816211418.3C8473384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org, "Bob Nelson" >Subject: ESPN Boston local shows >Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:55:31 -0400 > > Media Blitz reports that ESPN 890/1400 will have a local show weekdays > from 4 to 8 pm starting after Labor Day (host will be announced next > week) and former Pats player Andre Tippett will do a Patriots pregame > show on Monday nights. > > http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/blitz I wonder if by that time, the WLLH-AM Lowell transmitter will be back on. I was up in Nashua recently to scope out the new WEVS-FM 88.3 antenna atop St Joseph's Hospital (Question: some hospitals won't allow you to bring a cell phone on their premises because the radiation couild affect sensitive instruments, but it's ok for St Joe's to have a 5,000-watt FM transmitter on the roof. Weird.) and I also sampled AM 1400 to see if the ESPN broadcast on that frequency reach Nashua. It was dead, indicating that the feeble sound I heard only sporadically was the one emanating from the Lawrence skyscraper. If and when Lowell goes operational, even if it doesn't get into downtown Nashua well, it will offer a nearly local-grade signal to Dunstable, Tyngsboro and Pepperell, so denizens of those towns will often get duplicate programming. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Aug 16 21:23:11 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: WGIR AM 610 Manchester NH - Gardner Goldsmith replaced by Sean Hannity Message-ID: <20050817012312.81282.qmail@web30708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It appears that the local afternoon drive time talk show host Gardner Goldsmith is out at WGIR 610 AM in Manchester, being replaced by Sean Hannity. John B Derry NH From radio88@radio88.net Wed Aug 17 12:12:00 2005 From: radio88@radio88.net (Todd Glickman) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:12:00 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: > >I never understood why they don't run "Local on the 8's" updates during >Storm Stories. >(It could even be an abbreviated version of "Local on the 8's".) TWC does EXTENSIVE research. They've found that the Storm Stories-type program brings in the audience they want -- prime demographics -- even at the expense of those in local areas who want/need to see the local forecast. It's all in the numbers, they claim. -- Todd Glickman Associate Director, Office of Corporate Relations Massachusetts Institute of Technology 77 Massachusetts Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139 Certified Broadcast Meteorologist WCBS Newsradio-880 New York City, NY Email: radio88@radio88.net From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Aug 17 18:01:08 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:01:08 -0500 Subject: WBUR-FM Applies For LTC Message-ID: <20050817220108.E93BFCA094@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://lists.BostonRadio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/attachments/20050817/7278a057/attachment.ksh From madprof@ix.netcom.com Wed Aug 17 19:40:43 2005 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:40:43 -0400 Subject: WBUR-FM Applies For LTC (reply off topic really) References: <20050817220108.E93BFCA094@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <001c01c5a385$16e03f20$6a3f9c04@p133> Thank you, Laurence, the belly laugh you caused improved my day extremely! Bob. original messgae From: "Laurence Glavin" > ...The Loop in Methuen. > .... BTW, The Loop apparently has only one > licensed facility (Applebee's) so it's hard to get looped there. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Aug 18 04:17:53 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 04:17:53 -0400 Subject: BRW: Laquidara injured in motorcycle mishap Message-ID: <1fbbbced0508180117725cac28@mail.gmail.com> Via BostonRadioWatch: Chuck Laquidara is on a Big Mattress in a Hawaii hospital after taking a tumble from his motorbike. From Chuck's blog: http://www.bigmattress.com/mt-archives/001362.html From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Aug 19 15:44:08 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:44:08 -0400 Subject: 1200 to Spanish? Message-ID: <1fbbbced050819124446d40475@mail.gmail.com> A post on radio-info's Boston board said that WKOX 1200 in Framingham started running Spanish language programming at 3 pm today, just after Franken. I tuned in and it's true. They were playing a song in Spanish, and then a DJ came on and I couldn't really pick up what he was saying (no comprende, it's a riddle, as Wall of Voodoo once put it) but there were words like "informacion" (news?) and a commercial for a mortgage company (the English word "mortgage" popped in a few times, from the name of the company) Oddly enough of the two AAR stations (now just one?) it seemed like WKOX did slightly higher in the ratings, unless that can be attributed to the fact that they ID-ed with their frequencies, with 1200 first... Is it possible this is brokered time and maybe they're just doing the Spanish stuff once in awhile? I get the feeling it could be permanent, though, even though no mention of an abandonment of 1200 on the AAR Boston site: http://www.am1430wxks.com/main.html Two posts on the discussion board do wonder what's going on--why is it suddenly foreign language. From nostaticatall@comcast.net Fri Aug 19 15:45:16 2005 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:45:16 -0400 Subject: WKOX goes back to Spanish Message-ID: It looks like WKOX has broken away from "Boston's Progressive Talk Radio Network" as of 3pm today. Right after Franken's show ended, the station resumed broadcasting what sounds like their previous brokered Spanish format. 1430 is continuing with the liberal talk format as of now. Maybe CC is trying to capitalize on the hole 890 left when it flipped to ESPN radio, since WRCA doesn't make it too far into Metrowest. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Aug 19 16:46:40 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:46:40 -0400 Subject: WKOX goes back to Spanish In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced0508191346ef5d596@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced0508191346ef5d596@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced05081913466b4989b0@mail.gmail.com> But maybe not --I heard that it was a technical glitch and Ed Schultz is back on 1200. (I was just tuning in on my AM/FM/CD portable with analog tuning and it sounded like it was back on WKOX, esp. since WESX 1230 was right next to it, more powerful (am in Beverly), I think it was your post on radio-info that mentioned the "change" but then you went back on and said "oops, never mind..." Wonder if they intended to change but got a bunch of calls and emails? From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Aug 19 16:55:06 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:55:06 -0500 Subject: WKOX goes back to Spanish Message-ID: <20050819205506.18245E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Re: WKOX goes back to Spanish >Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:46:40 -0400 > > But maybe not --I heard that it was a technical glitch and Ed Schultz > is back on 1200. (I was just tuning in on my AM/FM/CD portable with > analog tuning and it sounded like it was back on WKOX, esp. since WESX > 1230 was right next to it, more powerful (am in Beverly), I think it > was your post on radio-info that mentioned the "change" but then you > went back on and said "oops, never mind..." > > Wonder if they intended to change but got a bunch of calls and emails? The language was Portuguese not Spanish. I too happened on to the 'Iberian' lingo on WKOX; I listened for a few minutes to discern whether there'd be a station ID for WKOX and some slogan or announcement. Indeed, there WAS a station ID, but for WSRO-AM 650. I quickly (Fingers Fortescue has nothing on me) toggled between 650 and 1200 and the programming WAS identical. But minutes later an over-programmed PSA came on, followed by Ed Schultz (this was about 4:30 pm today) so it was probably some kind of glitch. Doesn't WSRO transmit from Ashland...how could this have happened? -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Aug 19 16:58:21 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:58:21 -0400 Subject: WKOX goes back to Spanish In-Reply-To: <20050819205506.18245E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <200508192058.j7JKw2EO026402@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> > Doesn't WSRO transmit from Ashland...how could this >have happened? I believe WSRO now transmits from the same site as 1060 and 1200. The audio must've gotten mixed up somehow. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Aug 19 17:03:12 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 17:03:12 -0400 Subject: WKOX goes back to Spanish References: <20050819205506.18245E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <006501c5a501$71eaf0e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> No, By day, WSRO (licensed to Ashland) and WBIX (Licensed to Natick) transmit from the WKOX (licensed to Framingham) site (IN Framingham--and used by WKOX 24/7). (WSRO operates from the WKOX site by night too--with a whole 9 watts.) At night, WBIX operates from the Ashland site of WAMG (licensed to Dedham). Got that? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Bob Nelson" ; Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 4:55 PM Subject: Re: WKOX goes back to Spanish > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Bob Nelson" > >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > >Subject: Re: WKOX goes back to Spanish > >Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:46:40 -0400 > > > > > But maybe not --I heard that it was a technical glitch and Ed Schultz > > is back on 1200. (I was just tuning in on my AM/FM/CD portable with > > analog tuning and it sounded like it was back on WKOX, esp. since WESX > > 1230 was right next to it, more powerful (am in Beverly), I think it > > was your post on radio-info that mentioned the "change" but then you > > went back on and said "oops, never mind..." > > > > Wonder if they intended to change but got a bunch of calls and emails? > > The language was Portuguese not Spanish. I too happened on to > the 'Iberian' lingo on WKOX; I listened for a few minutes to > discern whether there'd be a station ID for WKOX and some slogan > or announcement. Indeed, there WAS a station ID, but for WSRO-AM > 650. I quickly (Fingers Fortescue has nothing on me) toggled > between 650 and 1200 and the programming WAS identical. But minutes > later an over-programmed PSA came on, followed by Ed Schultz > (this was about 4:30 pm today) so it was probably some kind of > glitch. Doesn't WSRO transmit from Ashland...how could this > have happened? > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > > Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages > > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 > > From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Aug 20 12:52:04 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 11:52:04 -0500 Subject: WKOX And WXKS-AM Not In Synch Message-ID: <20050820165204.0A30DE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://lists.BostonRadio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/attachments/20050820/bf413c17/attachment.ksh From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Aug 19 09:11:48 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:11:48 -0400 Subject: Putting TV in its place Message-ID: <4305DA94.9060702@cssinc.com> On August 12th, the Providence Journal had an article on a new documentary movie about Providence's former and now imprisoned mayor, Buddy Cianci. Here's a memorable exchange between his honor and a local TV station as quoted in the ProJo: "Another crowd pleaser: When Channel 6 talk-show host Truman Taylortried to ask Cianci about the corruption investigation, saying the people would want to know. Cianci replied, "How does a station with a 3-percent rating know what the people want?" Then, he told the stunned Taylor: "You wanna take a break now, go ahead, because I think you're speechless." Brian Vita From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Aug 21 01:28:11 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 01:28:11 -0400 Subject: Air America up in Minneapolis ratings In-Reply-To: <20050812214436.6A1F5E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050821012316.02d71438@pop.registeredsite.com> As some of us speculated, so far, this still seems to be a niche format, but it performs well in some cities. In the recent Minneapolis/St Paul book, Air America's overall ratings were flat, but Al Franken continued to see ratings growth: in the past eight months, his audience share has risen to a 2.4 percent in the 25 to 54 demo; in AAR's first book when KTNF switched over to progressive talk, he had only a 1.3...I am told Ed Schultz is also pulling some good numbers 25-54 in Minneapolis. From radiotony@comcast.net Sun Aug 21 08:33:17 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 08:33:17 -0400 Subject: Air America up in Minneapolis ratings In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050821012316.02d71438@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <200508211233.j7LCX7W1044649@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> However Donna, you may have missed the most interesting part of this story, as posted here in the Duluth News Tribune: http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/local/12438874.htm "Locally, conservative-talk icon Rush Limbaugh's show has lost 43 percent of its audience among 25- to 54-year-olds in the past year. Sean Hannity's show is down a whopping 63 percent. The shift is serious enough that 'we're weighing where these shows fit for us in the future,' according to Todd Fisher, general manager at KSTP, which carries both syndicated programs." Best, Anthony Schinella Program Director/News/A&E WKXL 1450 AM/Concord, NH http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 1:28 AM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Air America up in Minneapolis ratings As some of us speculated, so far, this still seems to be a niche format, but it performs well in some cities. In the recent Minneapolis/St Paul book, Air America's overall ratings were flat, but Al Franken continued to see ratings growth: in the past eight months, his audience share has risen to a 2.4 percent in the 25 to 54 demo; in AAR's first book when KTNF switched over to progressive talk, he had only a 1.3...I am told Ed Schultz is also pulling some good numbers 25-54 in Minneapolis. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Aug 21 12:30:08 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 12:30:08 -0400 Subject: Air America up in Minneapolis ratings References: <200508211233.j7LCX7W1044649@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <001201c5a66d$98a23320$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "radiotony" To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 8:33 AM Subject: RE: Air America up in Minneapolis ratings > However Donna, you may have missed the most interesting part of this > story, > as posted here in the Duluth News Tribune: > http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/local/12438874.htm If you read the story, the station manager notes the differences in trends between local and national shows on the station and does not paint the picture as right vs. left. Also, despite the 43% drop, Rush's audience in the market is 72% larger than Franken's. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Aug 21 20:00:52 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:00:52 -0400 Subject: Air America up in Minneapolis ratings In-Reply-To: <001201c5a66d$98a23320$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <200508211233.j7LCX7W1044649@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050821195933.02e4f678@pop.registeredsite.com> >Dan B wrote-- >Also, despite the 43% drop, Rush's audience in the market is 72% larger >than Franken's. Absolutely true-- but let's not forget that Rush has been doing this for about 15 years longer than Franken, and Rush's earliest ratings were not anywhere near what he has these days. From radiotony@comcast.net Sun Aug 21 20:05:20 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:05:20 -0400 Subject: Air America up in Minneapolis ratings In-Reply-To: <001201c5a66d$98a23320$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <200508220005.j7M05C8a047891@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Well, the point isn't left or right; more or less; it is up or down. The station is worried about the numbers. Limboob and Inannity down; Franken, somewhere else, up. Best, Anthony Schinella Program Director/News/A&E WKXL 1450 AM/Concord, NH http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Billings [mailto:billings@suscom-maine.net] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 12:30 PM To: radiotony; boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Air America up in Minneapolis ratings ----- Original Message ----- From: "radiotony" To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 8:33 AM Subject: RE: Air America up in Minneapolis ratings > However Donna, you may have missed the most interesting part of this > story, > as posted here in the Duluth News Tribune: > http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/local/12438874.htm If you read the story, the station manager notes the differences in trends between local and national shows on the station and does not paint the picture as right vs. left. Also, despite the 43% drop, Rush's audience in the market is 72% larger than Franken's. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Aug 21 23:03:03 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 23:03:03 -0400 Subject: Air America up in Minneapolis ratings References: <200508220005.j7M05C8a047891@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <001201c5a6c6$031b3fa0$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "radiotony" To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 8:05 PM Subject: RE: Air America up in Minneapolis ratings > Well, the point isn't left or right; more or less; it is up or down. > The station is worried about the numbers. > Limboob and Inannity down; Franken, somewhere else, up. When you are the bottom, you have nowhere to go but up. In Portland, the Air America station crashed and burned in the Spring book. I bet Nassau wishes that they had dumped the format as planned. WLOB, which has a local morning show, all of the Fox shows except O'Reilly, and Savage had a strong book. WGAN, with Rush, Howie Carr, and O'Reilly, was the #1 station 12+, for the first time in at least 25 years. From painthappy@gmail.com Tue Aug 16 22:39:08 2005 From: painthappy@gmail.com (Carter Brown) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:39:08 -0700 Subject: WGIR AM 610 Manchester NH - Gardner Goldsmith replaced by Sean Hannity In-Reply-To: <20050817012312.81282.qmail@web30708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050817012312.81282.qmail@web30708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Noticed that yesterday... I looked online and I see that the 610wgir.com has already replaced Gardner, but some of the old links (His profile Page) still exists if you know the links. Never heard anything. Also, I was unaware that Hannity was doing a 4 hour show. 3 to 7 It was just a 3 hour show when he used to be on 1250 WKBR Carter Manchester, NH On 8/16/05, John Bolduc wrote: > It appears that the local afternoon drive time talk show host Gardner > Goldsmith is out at WGIR 610 AM in Manchester, being replaced by Sean > Hannity. > > John B > Derry NH > From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Aug 23 12:47:07 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 12:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: WGIR AM 610 Manchester NH - Gardner Goldsmith replaced by Sean Hannity Message-ID: <20050823164707.8B32E5C97C@mprdmxin.myway.com> >> Also, I was unaware that Hannity was doing a 4 hour show. 3 to 7 It was just a 3 hour show when he used to be on 1250 WKBR It's still 3 hours, 3-6 pm, but they're probably re-running his first hour at 6 pm _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Wed Aug 24 01:47:09 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 01:47:09 -0400 Subject: The "new" Channel 50 from Derry, NH Message-ID: <021a01c5a86f$4ee9ab60$6401a8c0@xyz> Some may remember Lou Bortone, who was promotion director at the old WJIB. (It might have been Lou who came up with the "Couldn't you use a little Jib today?" slogan.) After spending some time doing communications for St. Anselms college, it appears that Lou is now working with Ch 50 in Derry, here's an email that someone passed my way. ------------------------------------------------------------ ...the following from Lou Bortone -- who has a fascinating idea for his new TV: Have you ever watched TV and thought, "I can do better than that!" or "I have a great idea for a TV show!" Well, here's your chance to have your say and take back your TV! WZMY.TV, "My TV," is launching (in Mass & NH) next month and is looking for your ideas! My TV, formerly WNDS-TV 50, will be a unique, viewer-centered local television station. My TV is your TV! Viewers will have a say in what's on, and will be featured in shows, online and on the air. (So, you wanna be on TV?) Just click on to _www.wnds.com_ (http://www.wnds.com) right now and vote on what you want to see. Then forward this e-mail to anyone and everyone you know, and we'll start a groundswell of viewer-controlled TV! Want a local comedy show? Log on to wnds.com and let them know! Want to see old 3 Stooges re-runs, local talk shows or special New England travel programs? A Simpsons marathon? Just tell them! This new experiment in local "two-way" television can only work if you spread the word, and get people to visit _www.wnds.com_ (http://www.wnds.com) -- and make your voices heard. Forward this e-mail to all your friends in NH and Massachusetts and help us take back our airwaves! Thanks! Lou From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Aug 24 12:41:25 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:41:25 -0400 Subject: The "new" Channel 50 from Derry, NH In-Reply-To: <021a01c5a86f$4ee9ab60$6401a8c0@xyz> References: <021a01c5a86f$4ee9ab60$6401a8c0@xyz> Message-ID: At 1:47 AM -0400 8/24/05, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >Some may remember Lou Bortone, who was promotion director at the old WJIB. >(It might have been Lou who came up with the "Couldn't you use a little Jib >today?" slogan.) > >After spending some time doing communications for St. Anselms college, it >appears that Lou is now working with Ch 50 in Derry From what I read elsewhere, the official launch of the "new" station is in late September. I also know that Leo Demers, who has been chief engineer at Monitor TV and WGBH-TV, and has also worked at Channel 7, is now the chief at Channel 50. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Aug 27 10:52:25 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 10:52:25 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain Message-ID: <1fbbbced05082707525b025dab@mail.gmail.com> I was recently sent an aircheck of Jess Cain on WHDH from 1967 and it was interesting to hear how things were back then. The show was very laid back and he played stuff like the Ed Sullivan Orchestra and Chorus (!) doing an Irish song; he interviewed a "leprechaun" (sounded like he was doing both voices), and he played "Penny Lane". But not the Beatles original--it was an "elevator music" cover of the song by Paul "Love is Blue" Mariat. (Not bad, too) I guess the Beatles version was too hard rock for him, eh? No uptempo jingles all the time...no constant reminders of the call letters... brief commercial breaks and then right back into a song...laid back morning show. Traffic with Kevin O'Keefe and he mentioned "the end of 93"--as I understand it, I-93 suddenly stopped a couple miles north of Boston but eventually they linked it to the Central artery...a connection was built but held up for a long time but when it finally opened--early 70s?--along came all that wonderful traffic...jams. In the news, Sen. McCarthy said he felt sure that Bobby Kennedy would be running for president and RFK was asked same question; he replied "I wouldn't be running if I didn't think I had a chance to win". (the newscaster quoted RFK, it wasn't an actuality from RFK) Who would have thought he would fall to an assasin's bullet a bit over a year later. Now, I was 5 when this aircheck was recorded so I don't remember what life was like too much. Oh, and a commercial for L&M. Yup, ciggie ads still legal! Well, some on this board may be able to remember those days very well but some weren't even born yet (and to some I'm an old-timer...at 43! Yes I remember life before ATMs, cellphones, microwave ovens, CDs...) Anyway, interesting to hear a soundcheck from the old days like that (and it was very good quality--sounded like it could have been recent!) I have some other old-days tapes (not many though) like one from '48, Bob and Ray on WHDH. And how many cookies did Andrew eat? Andrew ate 8,000. :) (Same broadcast had an ad for a harness track or some such thing on the corner of Lake and Forest Streets in Peabody. Long gone now) (Article: Time to elect Cain to Radio HOF: http://www.bostonirish.com/pubnotes.html From revdoug1@verizon.net Sat Aug 27 11:27:19 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:27:19 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain References: <1fbbbced05082707525b025dab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <043a01c5ab1b$d0ed81a0$6401a8c0@pastor2> As the only Boston radio I can get up here (most of the time) is 'BZ, I have a question: Is Jess still with us? How old would he be? (And, for that matter, how old is Dave Maynard?) --- Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: ; "Bob Nelson" Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: the old days: Jess Cain > I was recently sent an aircheck of Jess Cain on WHDH from 1967 and it > was interesting to hear how things were back then. The show was very > laid back and > he played stuff like the Ed Sullivan Orchestra and Chorus (!) doing an Irish > song; he interviewed a "leprechaun" (sounded like he was doing both voices), > and he played "Penny Lane". But not the Beatles original--it was an "elevator > music" cover of the song by Paul "Love is Blue" Mariat. (Not bad, too) I guess > the Beatles version was too hard rock for him, eh? > > No uptempo jingles all the time...no constant reminders of the call letters... > brief commercial breaks and then right back into a song...laid back > morning show. > > Traffic with Kevin O'Keefe and he mentioned "the end of 93"--as I understand > it, I-93 suddenly stopped a couple miles north of Boston but > eventually they linked it to the Central artery...a connection was > built but held up for a long time but when it finally opened--early > 70s?--along came all that wonderful > traffic...jams. In the news, Sen. McCarthy said he felt sure that Bobby Kennedy > would be running for president and RFK was asked same question; he replied > "I wouldn't be running if I didn't think I had a chance to win". (the > newscaster quoted RFK, it wasn't an actuality from RFK) > > Who would have thought he would fall to an assasin's bullet a bit over > a year later. Now, I was > 5 when this aircheck was recorded so I don't remember what life was > like too much. > > Oh, and a commercial for L&M. Yup, ciggie ads still legal! Well, some > on this board may be able to remember those days very well but some > weren't even born > yet (and to some I'm an old-timer...at 43! Yes I remember life before ATMs, > cellphones, microwave ovens, CDs...) > > Anyway, interesting to hear a soundcheck from the old days like that > (and it was very good quality--sounded like it could have been > recent!) I have some other > old-days tapes (not many though) like one from '48, Bob and Ray on WHDH. > And how many cookies did Andrew eat? Andrew ate 8,000. :) (Same broadcast > had an ad for a harness track or some such thing on the corner of Lake > and Forest Streets in Peabody. Long gone now) > > (Article: Time to elect Cain to Radio HOF: > http://www.bostonirish.com/pubnotes.html > From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 27 14:55:16 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:55:16 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <043a01c5ab1b$d0ed81a0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> On 27 Aug 2005 at 11:27, Doug Drown wrote: > As the only Boston radio I can get up here (most of the time) is 'BZ, > I have a question: Is Jess still with us? How old would he be? (And, > for that matter, how old is Dave Maynard?) And is Dave Maynard's Auntie Clarissa still alive? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Aug 27 15:32:09 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:32:09 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> References: <043a01c5ab1b$d0ed81a0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050827153013.02e3f1f8@pop.registeredsite.com> At 02:55 PM 8/27/2005 -0400, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >On 27 Aug 2005 at 11:27, Doug Drown wrote: > > > As the only Boston radio I can get up here (most of the time) is 'BZ, > > I have a question: Is Jess still with us? How old would he be? (And, > > for that matter, how old is Dave Maynard?) Jess is certainly alive-- saw him a few weeks ago, in fact. Still lives in the area, and still does some local theatre now and then. Dave Maynard is alive too, living in Florida, and from what I am told, his vision problems are not getting any better. He graduated from Emerson College in 1951, so as far as his age now, you can do the math, assuming he was about 21 or 22 when he graduated. From revdoug1@verizon.net Sat Aug 27 15:43:37 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:43:37 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain References: <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> Message-ID: <044801c5ab3f$a07ec8c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> My goodness, I'd forgotten all about Auntie Clarissa. And then there was Johnny Gardner's old friend Mrs. McQuistin, who used to read the school lunch menus on WORC every weekday morning (with commentary). ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Bob Nelson" ; ; "Doug Drown" Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:55 PM Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > On 27 Aug 2005 at 11:27, Doug Drown wrote: > > > As the only Boston radio I can get up here (most of the time) is 'BZ, > > I have a question: Is Jess still with us? How old would he be? (And, > > for that matter, how old is Dave Maynard?) > > And is Dave Maynard's Auntie Clarissa still alive? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 27 14:55:17 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:55:17 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced05082707525b025dab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43107ED5.32608.DE68F9@localhost> On 27 Aug 2005 at 10:52, Bob Nelson wrote: > Traffic with Kevin O'Keefe and he mentioned "the end of 93"--as I > understand it, I-93 suddenly stopped a couple miles north of Boston > but eventually they linked it to the Central artery...a connection was > built but held up for a long time but when it finally opened--early > 70s?--along came all that wonderful traffic...jams. As I recall, the part of I-93 connecting to the Central Artery, was almost completed when, in response to a growing movement against more road-building (which defeated completely the so-called "inner belt"), Governor Frank Sargent ordered a sudden halt to construction. The road sat unused until, sometime after the energy crisis hit in 1974, the road was opened supposedly as a fuel-saving measure. To this day, that section of I-93 has some access ramps that end in midair. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Aug 27 15:45:53 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:45:53 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain References: <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> <044801c5ab3f$a07ec8c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <000c01c5ab3f$f7c37b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Johnny Gardner--that would be John H Garabedian, right? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Bob Nelson" ; Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > My goodness, I'd forgotten all about Auntie Clarissa. And then there was > Johnny Gardner's old friend Mrs. McQuistin, who used to read the school > lunch menus on WORC every weekday morning (with commentary). > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: "Bob Nelson" ; > ; "Doug Drown" > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:55 PM > Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > > > > On 27 Aug 2005 at 11:27, Doug Drown wrote: > > > > > As the only Boston radio I can get up here (most of the time) is 'BZ, > > > I have a question: Is Jess still with us? How old would he be? (And, > > > for that matter, how old is Dave Maynard?) > > > > And is Dave Maynard's Auntie Clarissa still alive? > > > > -- > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > > > > > > From revdoug1@verizon.net Sat Aug 27 16:21:51 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:21:51 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain References: <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> <044801c5ab3f$a07ec8c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <000c01c5ab3f$f7c37b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <045601c5ab44$f81070c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Johnny Gardner = John H.Garabedian. WPTR Albany and WORC Worcester when I was a kid, later founder of WGTR Natick and the home-shopping TV station that used to be on Channel 68 (am I right)? I don't know what he's doing these days. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "Doug Drown" ; "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Bob Nelson" ; Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > Johnny Gardner--that would be John H Garabedian, right? > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Drown" > To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Bob Nelson" > ; > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:43 PM > Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > > > > My goodness, I'd forgotten all about Auntie Clarissa. And then there was > > Johnny Gardner's old friend Mrs. McQuistin, who used to read the school > > lunch menus on WORC every weekday morning (with commentary). > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > > To: "Bob Nelson" ; > > ; "Doug Drown" > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:55 PM > > Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > > > > > > > On 27 Aug 2005 at 11:27, Doug Drown wrote: > > > > > > > As the only Boston radio I can get up here (most of the time) is 'BZ, > > > > I have a question: Is Jess still with us? How old would he be? (And, > > > > for that matter, how old is Dave Maynard?) > > > > > > And is Dave Maynard's Auntie Clarissa still alive? > > > > > > -- > > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > > > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > > > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Aug 27 16:38:46 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:38:46 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain References: <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> <044801c5ab3f$a07ec8c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <000c01c5ab3f$f7c37b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <045601c5ab44$f81070c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <000c01c5ab47$58870ac0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Channel 66. He also worked at WESO Southbridge and WMEX (the Mac Richmond WMEX 1510), where he was PD for a while. I believe he does program syndication now. Among his syndicated programs is a classical music service programmed by WCRB/WFCC. He also originated (originates?) a weekly program done before a live audience from his home in Southboro. The name is/was "Houseparty," or something like that. I forget which Boston station carried/carries it--WZLX?, WAAF? Rock music of some stripe and, presumably, off-color humor. (I can't imagine him doing a program of that type before a live audience without getting into off-color humor.) I believe his house is on property that he originally bought for WGTR's transmitter site, but when Southboro wouldn't grant a building permit, he found the site on Sewell St in Ashland on which the five 530' towers were built, but I think he kept the Southboro property and built his house there. I've heard that he has a landing strip for light planes on his property. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: "Dan Strassberg" ; "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Bob Nelson" ; Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:21 PM Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > Johnny Gardner = John H.Garabedian. WPTR Albany and WORC Worcester when I > was a kid, later founder of WGTR Natick and the home-shopping TV station > that used to be on Channel 68 (am I right)? I don't know what he's doing > these days. > > Doug > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Strassberg" > To: "Doug Drown" ; "A. Joseph Ross" > ; "Bob Nelson" ; > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:45 PM > Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > > > > Johnny Gardner--that would be John H Garabedian, right? > > > > -- > > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > > eFax 707-215-6367 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Doug Drown" > > To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Bob Nelson" > > ; > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:43 PM > > Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > > > > > > > My goodness, I'd forgotten all about Auntie Clarissa. And then there > was > > > Johnny Gardner's old friend Mrs. McQuistin, who used to read the school > > > lunch menus on WORC every weekday morning (with commentary). > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > > > To: "Bob Nelson" ; > > > ; "Doug Drown" > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:55 PM > > > Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > > > > > > > > > > On 27 Aug 2005 at 11:27, Doug Drown wrote: > > > > > > > > > As the only Boston radio I can get up here (most of the time) is > 'BZ, > > > > > I have a question: Is Jess still with us? How old would he be? > (And, > > > > > for that matter, how old is Dave Maynard?) > > > > > > > > And is Dave Maynard's Auntie Clarissa still alive? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > > > > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > > > > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From mlaurence@mindspring.com Sat Aug 27 17:04:40 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:04:40 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <044801c5ab3f$a07ec8c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> <044801c5ab3f$a07ec8c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <59D0F0DD-D64C-4344-B358-C8491D5757CC@mindspring.com> On Aug 27, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Doug Drown wrote: > My goodness, I'd forgotten all about Auntie Clarissa. And then > there was > Johnny Gardner's old friend Mrs. McQuistin, who used to read the > school > lunch menus on WORC every weekday morning (with commentary). I thought it was Clara Cow. :) Mark From hykker@grolen.com Sat Aug 27 17:14:00 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:14:00 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> References: <043a01c5ab1b$d0ed81a0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050827171242.01b4b008@pop3.grolen.com> , A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > As the only Boston radio I can get up here (most of the time) is 'BZ, > > I have a question: Is Jess still with us? How old would he be? (And, > > for that matter, how old is Dave Maynard?) > >And is Dave Maynard's Auntie Clarissa still alive? Wasn't Auntie Clarissa really Bruce Bradley? From revdoug1@verizon.net Sat Aug 27 17:22:06 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:22:06 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain References: <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> <044801c5ab3f$a07ec8c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <000c01c5ab3f$f7c37b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <045601c5ab44$f81070c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <000c01c5ab47$58870ac0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <048001c5ab4d$60d01bd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> While we're on the subject of the Richmond brothers (of WMEX), I've long been curious as to who they were and how they got into the radio business. Donna, can you help me out? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "Doug Drown" ; "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Bob Nelson" ; Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:38 PM Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > Channel 66. He also worked at WESO Southbridge and WMEX (the Mac Richmond > WMEX 1510), where he was PD for a while. I believe he does program > syndication now. Among his syndicated programs is a classical music service > programmed by WCRB/WFCC. He also originated (originates?) a weekly program > done before a live audience from his home in Southboro. The name is/was > "Houseparty," or something like that. I forget which Boston station > carried/carries it--WZLX?, WAAF? Rock music of some stripe and, presumably, > off-color humor. (I can't imagine him doing a program of that type before a > live audience without getting into off-color humor.) > > I believe his house is on property that he originally bought for WGTR's > transmitter site, but when Southboro wouldn't grant a building permit, he > found the site on Sewell St in Ashland on which the five 530' towers were > built, but I think he kept the Southboro property and built his house there. > I've heard that he has a landing strip for light planes on his property. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Drown" > To: "Dan Strassberg" ; "A. Joseph Ross" > ; "Bob Nelson" ; > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:21 PM > Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > > > > Johnny Gardner = John H.Garabedian. WPTR Albany and WORC Worcester when I > > was a kid, later founder of WGTR Natick and the home-shopping TV station > > that used to be on Channel 68 (am I right)? I don't know what he's doing > > these days. > > > > Doug > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dan Strassberg" > > To: "Doug Drown" ; "A. Joseph Ross" > > ; "Bob Nelson" ; > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:45 PM > > Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > > > > > > > Johnny Gardner--that would be John H Garabedian, right? > > > > > > -- > > > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > > > eFax 707-215-6367 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Doug Drown" > > > To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Bob Nelson" > > > ; > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:43 PM > > > Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > > > > > > > > > > My goodness, I'd forgotten all about Auntie Clarissa. And then there > > was > > > > Johnny Gardner's old friend Mrs. McQuistin, who used to read the > school > > > > lunch menus on WORC every weekday morning (with commentary). > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > > > > To: "Bob Nelson" ; > > > > ; "Doug Drown" > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:55 PM > > > > Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 27 Aug 2005 at 11:27, Doug Drown wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > As the only Boston radio I can get up here (most of the time) is > > 'BZ, > > > > > > I have a question: Is Jess still with us? How old would he be? > > (And, > > > > > > for that matter, how old is Dave Maynard?) > > > > > > > > > > And is Dave Maynard's Auntie Clarissa still alive? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > > > > > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > > > > > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sat Aug 27 19:03:38 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 19:03:38 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <000c01c5ab47$58870ac0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <000301c5ab5b$91cc8300$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Dan wrote of John Garabedian (snip) >>He also originated (originates?) a weekly program done before a live audience from his home in Southboro. The name is/was "Houseparty," or something like that. I forget which Boston station carried/carries it--WZLX?, WAAF? Rock music of some stripe and, presumably, off-color humor. (I can't imagine him doing a program of that type before a live audience without getting into off-color humor.) << Actually, John's HouseParty is still on the air. KISS in Boston was airing it, as does WJBQ up here in Portland. Top 40/CHR. Very fun sounding, great guests and the humor is not, from what I've heard, off-color. He has that very "Arnie Ginsberg-esque" sound to his voice... Ageless of a sort. Lots of celeb drop-ins, either live at the time or by way of a pre-record. - -Chuck Igo From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Aug 27 19:55:29 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 19:55:29 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <048001c5ab4d$60d01bd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> <044801c5ab3f$a07ec8c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <000c01c5ab3f$f7c37b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <045601c5ab44$f81070c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <000c01c5ab47$58870ac0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050827194941.02e545c8@pop.registeredsite.com> At 05:22 PM 8/27/2005 -0400, Doug Drown wrote: >While we're on the subject of the Richmond brothers (of WMEX), I've long >been curious as to who they were and how they got into the radio business. >Donna, can you help me out? Maxwell (Mac) and Richard (Dick) owned WPGC in Washington DC back in the AM top 40 era. (If you are from greater DC, you recall that WPGC was jokingly called the Pig and the other major top 40, WCAO in Baltimore, was called the Cow.) I believe Dick Richmond had a legal background. Mac was a businessman. He was also notoriously cheap, as many who worked for him will attest. They bought WMEX from the Pot? brothers in the summer of 1957 and proceeded to turn it into a major force in top 40, home of Arnie "Woo Woo" Ginsburg and many other famous (and nearly famous) jocks. The place was a revolving door-- low pay and Mac meddled in everything-- but for a time, it was quite influential in breaking new music. (It also got accused of taking payola-- the Gold Platter show, it turned out, really did expect record companies to pay if they wanted their song to be the Gold Platter that week-- the song that was chosen by the staff to be destined for stardom...) So what do you wanna know about the Richmond brothers? I've got all sorts of articles about them... From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 27 21:32:35 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:32:35 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050827171242.01b4b008@pop3.grolen.com> References: <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> Message-ID: <4310DBF3.17619.688322@localhost> On 27 Aug 2005 at 17:14, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > >And is Dave Maynard's Auntie Clarissa still alive? > > > Wasn't Auntie Clarissa really Bruce Bradley? I always thought she was really Dave Maynard. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 27 21:32:35 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:32:35 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050827194941.02e545c8@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <048001c5ab4d$60d01bd0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <4310DBF3.21562.688386@localhost> On 27 Aug 2005 at 19:55, Donna Halper wrote: > Maxwell (Mac) and Richard (Dick) owned WPGC in Washington DC back in > the AM top 40 era. (If you are from greater DC, you recall that WPGC > was jokingly called the Pig and the other major top 40, WCAO in > Baltimore, was called the Cow.) I believe Dick Richmond had a legal > background. Mac was a businessman. He was also notoriously cheap, as > many who worked for him will attest. They bought WMEX from the Pot? > brothers in the summer of 1957 and proceeded to turn it into a major > force in top 40, home of Arnie "Woo Woo" Ginsburg and many other > famous (and nearly famous) jocks. The place was a revolving door-- > low pay and Mac meddled in everything-- but for a time, it was quite > influential in breaking new music. Strange how the subject of the Richmonds should come up now, since just last night I was thinking about them and the old "new WMEX." WMEX 1150, in the 80s, tried but never managed to capture the flavor of the original. It wasn't just the music, it was also the zany things the DJs used to do between the records and the commercials, which gave the station is special flavor. I've heard that the Richmonds weren't easy to work for, and I've even heard that they didn't much like rock & roll music themselves, but somehow they managed to attract some great air talent and put on a station that was a lot of fun to listen to for many years. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 27 21:32:35 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:32:35 -0400 Subject: Vacuum tubes Message-ID: <4310DBF3.5005.6883E5@localhost> Last week I managed to get hold of an old RCA Victor table model AM-FM radio. Despite the hum from a bad filter capacitor, it has a really rich sound, and (unlike newer sets) it has no trouble picking out WCRB from all the other strong signals around Brookline. I've ordered replacement capacitors online, and when they arrive and I get them installed, I'll have a really great radio. In a conversation with a friend, the topic came up about the supposed great sound quality of vacuum tube receivers. I've heard this before, but I've heard some pretty bad sound from some old vacuum tube equipment, too. Is there really a different sound quality from vacuum tubes? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Aug 28 08:49:49 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 08:49:49 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain References: <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost><044801c5ab3f$a07ec8c0$6401a8c0@pastor2><000c01c5ab3f$f7c37b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg><045601c5ab44$f81070c0$6401a8c0@pastor2><000c01c5ab47$58870ac0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <5.1.0.14.2.20050827194941.02e545c8@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <001601c5abce$fefe0480$19eefea9@dstrassberg> The Richmonds had a second station in the DC area--an FM almost two decades before FMs became successful and profitable--WRNC (FM) licensed to Oakland MD. Maybe WRNC eventually became WPGC-FM. Since Infinity now owns WPGC (AM), I doubt that there is a WPGC-FM anymore; the calls have doubtless been changed. But back then, WPGC (AM) was a daytimer and it probably made sense to have the same calls on a station that was on the air at night. I also don't know whether WPGC's increase to 50 kW-D happened during the Richmond's ownership, but before the increase, WPGC was a 10-kW daytimer. It was and still is licensed to Morningside MD. When the requirements for protecting Canadian clear channels were changed, WPGC added night service with 300W or something like that. Reportedly, a number of consulting engineers had said that adding night service would take at least two more towers than the four that the station already had. Glenn Clark of the Carl Smith Engineers in Cleveland was allegedly the hero who came to the rescue. He designed a night array that worked well from the existing four towers. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Doug Drown" ; Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 7:55 PM Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > At 05:22 PM 8/27/2005 -0400, Doug Drown wrote: > >While we're on the subject of the Richmond brothers (of WMEX), I've long > >been curious as to who they were and how they got into the radio business. > >Donna, can you help me out? > > Maxwell (Mac) and Richard (Dick) owned WPGC in Washington DC back in the AM > top 40 era. (If you are from greater DC, you recall that WPGC was jokingly > called the Pig and the other major top 40, WCAO in Baltimore, was called > the Cow.) I believe Dick Richmond had a legal background. Mac was a > businessman. He was also notoriously cheap, as many who worked for him > will attest. They bought WMEX from the Pot? brothers in the summer of 1957 > and proceeded to turn it into a major force in top 40, home of Arnie "Woo > Woo" Ginsburg and many other famous (and nearly famous) jocks. The place > was a revolving door-- low pay and Mac meddled in everything-- but for a > time, it was quite influential in breaking new music. (It also got accused > of taking payola-- the Gold Platter show, it turned out, really did expect > record companies to pay if they wanted their song to be the Gold Platter > that week-- the song that was chosen by the staff to be destined for > stardom...) So what do you wanna know about the Richmond brothers? I've > got all sorts of articles about them... > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Aug 28 09:02:04 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:02:04 -0400 Subject: Vacuum tubes References: <4310DBF3.5005.6883E5@localhost> Message-ID: <002e01c5abd0$ba11c080$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Is that old RCA receiver in a wooden cabinet? If so, that may explain the great sound to a much greater degree than do the tubes. That said, a group of (wealthy) audio enthusiasts believe that "tube sound" is real. The engineers I know think this is bunk and can prove it with all sorts of repeatable, scientific measurements. However, since tubes have become scarce and hence quite expensive, vacuum-tube audio equipment has become very popular among those who are unimpressed by science and who delight in spending lots of money to prove that they are true audio afficionados. These same people also spend hundreds of dollars on gold-plated speaker cables and other such claptrap. I wonder how many of them also believe in "intelligent design." -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 9:32 PM Subject: Vacuum tubes > Last week I managed to get hold of an old RCA Victor table model AM-FM radio. Despite > the hum from a bad filter capacitor, it has a really rich sound, and (unlike newer sets) it has > no trouble picking out WCRB from all the other strong signals around Brookline. I've ordered > replacement capacitors online, and when they arrive and I get them installed, I'll have a really > great radio. > > In a conversation with a friend, the topic came up about the supposed great sound quality of > vacuum tube receivers. I've heard this before, but I've heard some pretty bad sound from > some old vacuum tube equipment, too. Is there really a different sound quality from vacuum > tubes? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From aerie.ma@comcast.net Sun Aug 28 11:04:32 2005 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 11:04:32 -0400 Subject: WPGC/Richmond Bros. In-Reply-To: <001601c5abce$fefe0480$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <200508281505.j7SF5iVb016718@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> There is quite a comprehensive WPGC tribute site at http://www.amandfmmorningside.com/ > From scott@fybush.com Sun Aug 28 11:39:10 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 11:39:10 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <001601c5abce$fefe0480$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> <044801c5ab3f$a07ec8c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <000c01c5ab3f$f7c37b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <045601c5ab44$f81070c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <000c01c5ab47$58870ac0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <5.1.0.14.2.20050827194941.02e545c8@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050828113551.02b47d18@gwind.pair.com> At 08:49 AM 8/28/2005 -0400, Dan Strassberg wrote: >The Richmonds had a second station in the DC area--an FM almost two decades >before FMs became successful and profitable--WRNC (FM) licensed to Oakland >MD. Maybe WRNC eventually became WPGC-FM. Since Infinity now owns WPGC (AM), >I doubt that there is a WPGC-FM anymore; the calls have doubtless been >changed. Dan - you're in danger of turning into Joseph Gallant with all these "doubtless" statements about things that can easily be fact-checked! ;-) WPGC-FM is not only still on the air, it's usually at the very top of the DC ratings with its R&B format. An earlier owner (Gannett, if memory serves) *did* change the FM calls for a while in the late 80s, to WCLY ("Classy 95"), but the WPGC-FM calls were restored a few years later. WPGC(AM) ran business news for a few years, but is now doing black gospel and faring quite well, for a niche format. s From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Aug 28 13:42:03 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 13:42:03 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050828113551.02b47d18@gwind.pair.com> References: <001601c5abce$fefe0480$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> <044801c5ab3f$a07ec8c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <000c01c5ab3f$f7c37b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <045601c5ab44$f81070c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <000c01c5ab47$58870ac0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <5.1.0.14.2.20050827194941.02e545c8@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050828134054.02e9d9f8@pop.registeredsite.com> Scott wrote-- >Dan - you're in danger of turning into Joseph Gallant Now there is somebody we haven't heard from in ages-- is he still alive and well? He used to post on a regular basis! From hykker@grolen.com Sun Aug 28 15:30:05 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:30:05 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050828134054.02e9d9f8@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <001601c5abce$fefe0480$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost> <044801c5ab3f$a07ec8c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <000c01c5ab3f$f7c37b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <045601c5ab44$f81070c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <000c01c5ab47$58870ac0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <5.1.0.14.2.20050827194941.02e545c8@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050828134054.02e9d9f8@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050828152919.01bf18c8@pop3.grolen.com> At 01:42 PM 8/28/2005, Donna Halper wrote: >Scott wrote-- > >>Dan - you're in danger of turning into Joseph Gallant > >Now there is somebody we haven't heard from in ages-- is he still alive >and well? He used to post on a regular basis! He's alive and well and a prolific poster on radio-info.com. From hykker@grolen.com Sun Aug 28 15:33:48 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:33:48 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <000301c5ab5b$91cc8300$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> References: <000c01c5ab47$58870ac0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <000301c5ab5b$91cc8300$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050828153111.01bee6b8@pop3.grolen.com> Chuck Igo wrote: >Actually, John's HouseParty is still on the air. KISS in Boston was >airing it, as does WJBQ up here in Portland. Top 40/CHR. Very fun >sounding, great guests and the humor is not, from what I've heard, >off-color. He has that very "Arnie Ginsberg-esque" sound to his >voice... Ageless of a sort. Lots of celeb drop-ins, either live at the >time or by way of a pre-record. I had a chance to sit in on the show a few years ago. The guy was amazing to watch...he was doing the Saturday version of OHP live while tracking the Sunday edition, all with a constant stream of guests and phonecalls and live requests. A real pro. From hmadjid@gmail.com Sun Aug 28 16:07:28 2005 From: hmadjid@gmail.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:07:28 -0400 Subject: Vacuum tubes Message-ID: Dan Strassberg wrote: >Is that old RCA receiver in a wooden cabinet? If so, that may explain the >great sound to a much greater degree than do the tubes. That said, a group >of (wealthy) audio enthusiasts believe that "tube sound" is real. The >engineers I know think this is bunk and can prove it with all sorts of >repeatable, scientific measurements. However, since tubes have become scarce >and hence quite expensive, vacuum-tube audio equipment has become very >popular among those who are unimpressed by science and who delight in >spending lots of money to prove that they are true audio afficionados. These >same people also spend hundreds of dollars on gold-plated speaker cables and >other such claptrap. I wonder how many of them also believe in "intelligent >design." It' not necessarily just the wooden cabinet, but the general internal acoustical design of the speaker system in the radio...etc. Back in the day, (I assume that Counsellor Ross' radio is of 1950s to mid 1960s vintage). - this was way before most consumer electronics were made by $2/hr labor in China - the manufacturers paid more attention to sound quality, tuner performance...etc. I have heard that the reason that the $2,400 per meter speaker cable crowd likes vacuum tubes, is because the type of harmonic distortion, that a tubed amplifier generates is pleasing to the ear, and is perceived as a warmer, 'richer' sound, if you will. 73 de Hakim (N1ZFF) From francini@mac.com Sun Aug 28 16:10:04 2005 From: francini@mac.com (John J. Francini) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:10:04 -0400 Subject: Vacuum tubes In-Reply-To: <002e01c5abd0$ba11c080$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <4310DBF3.5005.6883E5@localhost> <002e01c5abd0$ba11c080$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: Actually, certain kinds of vacuum tubes that are popular in audiophile receivers are being made once more -- because of audiophile demand. One company, in fact, has licensed the Western Electric name and is making WE 300B triodes using the original WE tooling and designs. There are other companies that are making tubes in Russia and China for the audiophile market. In addition, one of the bases of what's called "tube sound" is the measurable difference in the distortion products of tube amps. Before they go into heavy clipping, a typical tube amp's distortion signature is rather heavy in even harmonics: 2nd, 4th, 6th, etc., while many solid-state designs' distortion products are odd-order: 3rd, 5th, 7th, etc. It is generally agreed amongst audio engineers as well as audiophiles that the even harmonics produced by tube amps are far more 'musical' (euphonic) compared to the odd harmonics from solid-state. John At 9:02 -0400 8/28/05, Dan Strassberg wrote: >Is that old RCA receiver in a wooden cabinet? If so, that may explain the >great sound to a much greater degree than do the tubes. That said, a group >of (wealthy) audio enthusiasts believe that "tube sound" is real. The >engineers I know think this is bunk and can prove it with all sorts of >repeatable, scientific measurements. However, since tubes have become scarce >and hence quite expensive, vacuum-tube audio equipment has become very >popular among those who are unimpressed by science and who delight in >spending lots of money to prove that they are true audio afficionados. These >same people also spend hundreds of dollars on gold-plated speaker cables and >other such claptrap. I wonder how many of them also believe in "intelligent >design." > >-- >Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net >eFax 707-215-6367 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: >Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 9:32 PM >Subject: Vacuum tubes > > >> Last week I managed to get hold of an old RCA Victor table model AM-FM >radio. Despite >> the hum from a bad filter capacitor, it has a really rich sound, and >(unlike newer sets) it has >> no trouble picking out WCRB from all the other strong signals around >Brookline. I've ordered >> replacement capacitors online, and when they arrive and I get them >installed, I'll have a really >> great radio. >> >> In a conversation with a friend, the topic came up about the supposed >great sound quality of >> vacuum tube receivers. I've heard this before, but I've heard some pretty >bad sound from >> some old vacuum tube equipment, too. Is there really a different sound >quality from vacuum >> tubes? >> >> -- >> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 >> 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com >> Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com >> >> >> -- ---- John Francini +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; | | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress.| | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" | | -- John Adams | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sun Aug 28 16:29:47 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 13:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: It is by General Order 52 that we tell you the following is a player piano Message-ID: <20050828202948.37538.qmail@web30709.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was just glancing over the 1929 Federal Radio Commision's Annual Report and noted a section discussion deception of the public as to origin of musical selections. In short, each and every performance broadcast, per General Order 52, was to be idetified if it was from a phonograph record, player piano, mechanical or electrical reproduction. It further stated that each selection within the broadcast needed to be specifically designated as such, as listenrs often often enter the program at different points in its sequence. Seems as though I remember in my lifetime renants of this order, were at least once a day an announcement was made that broadcast on the station were possibly recorded or mechanical reproduction. Any thought? John B Derry NH From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sun Aug 28 17:50:04 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:50:04 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050828152919.01bf18c8@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <200508282149.j7SLngTY018351@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> >>>Dan - you're in danger of turning into Joseph Gallant >> >>Now there is somebody we haven't heard from in ages-- is he still alive >>and well? He used to post on a regular basis! > > >He's alive and well and a prolific poster on radio-info.com. Yup, he's up there predicting that WODS (and every other remaining Infinity Oldies station) is going to become Jack FM, just because someone registered 1033jackfm.com. And no, it was not registered by infinity broadcasting, it's someone in Indiana... :-) Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Aug 28 17:57:05 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:57:05 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain References: <200508282149.j7SLngTY018351@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <003601c5ac1b$7214fe00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I believe he holds the record for total number of posts by any one individual at radio-info.com and he certainly must hold the record for the number of posts there that have predicted that a Boston-area FM was going to flip to Spanish. Eventually he will be right, of course, but he will probably have the wrong station--although if he goes back through his old posts, he will be able to prove that he was correct, because I don't think that any FM in eastern Mass has escaped that prediction from him. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Lehmann" To: "'SteveOrdinetz'" ; Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 5:50 PM Subject: RE: the old days: Jess Cain > >>>Dan - you're in danger of turning into Joseph Gallant > >> > >>Now there is somebody we haven't heard from in ages-- is he still alive > >>and well? He used to post on a regular basis! > > > > > >He's alive and well and a prolific poster on radio-info.com. > > Yup, he's up there predicting that WODS (and every other remaining Infinity > Oldies station) is going to become Jack FM, just because someone registered > 1033jackfm.com. And no, it was not registered by infinity broadcasting, it's > someone in Indiana... :-) > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA > From scott@fybush.com Sun Aug 28 18:10:12 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:10:12 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <003601c5ac1b$7214fe00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <200508282149.j7SLngTY018351@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050828180928.02ccaff8@gwind.pair.com> At 05:57 PM 8/28/2005 -0400, Dan Strassberg wrote: >I believe he holds the record for total number of posts by any one >individual at radio-info.com and he certainly must hold the record for the >number of posts there that have predicted that a Boston-area FM was going to >flip to Spanish. Eventually he will be right, of course, but he will >probably have the wrong station--although if he goes back through his old >posts, he will be able to prove that he was correct, because I don't think >that any FM in eastern Mass has escaped that prediction from him. Not true. He's yet to make that prediction for WGBH :-) "Mega 89.7, reggaeton y mas..." s From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Aug 28 17:50:26 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:50:26 -0400 Subject: It is by General Order 52 that we tell you the following is a playerpiano References: <20050828202948.37538.qmail@web30709.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002e01c5ac1a$85b6bd00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Back in the 50s (40s, too, I think), the announcement had to be made at the beginning or end of each broadcast that used recorded music (maybe beginning AND end), but I gather that certain music was exempted--perhaps considered to be sound effects. For example, I don't recall ever hearing "transcribed" in any of the Trendall-Campbell-Moore productions that originated at WXYZ Detroit--Lone Ranger, Green Hornet, Challenge of the Yukon, et al. Each used an orchestral recording of a classical selection as its theme--Rossini's William Tell Overture, Kreissler's? Flight of the Bumble Bee, Resnicek's Donna Diana Overture. (I'm sure that Mr Glavin will make the necessary edits to that list ;>) In that day, though, sneaking in "recorded" or "transcribed" was the equivalent of today's whispered legal IDs and COLs. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" To: Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: It is by General Order 52 that we tell you the following is a playerpiano > I was just glancing over the 1929 Federal Radio Commision's Annual Report > and noted a section discussion deception of the public as to origin of > musical selections. In short, each and every performance broadcast, per > General Order 52, was to be idetified if it was from a phonograph record, > player piano, mechanical or electrical reproduction. It further stated > that each selection within the broadcast needed to be specifically > designated as such, as listenrs often often enter the program at different > points in its sequence. > > Seems as though I remember in my lifetime renants of this order, were at > least once a day an announcement was made that broadcast on the station > were possibly recorded or mechanical reproduction. > > Any thought? > > John B > Derry NH From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Aug 28 18:03:43 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:03:43 -0400 Subject: Fw: It is by General Order 52 that we tell you the following is a playerpiano Message-ID: <004401c5ac1c$5f1376a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "John Bolduc" Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 5:50 PM Subject: Re: It is by General Order 52 that we tell you the following is a playerpiano Back in the 50s (40s, too, I think), the announcement had to be made at the beginning or end of each broadcast that used recorded music (maybe beginning AND end), but I gather that certain music was exempted--perhaps considered to be sound effects. For example, I don't recall ever hearing "transcribed" in any of the Trendall-Campbell-Moore productions that originated at WXYZ Detroit--Lone Ranger, Green Hornet, Challenge of the Yukon, et al. Each used an orchestral recording of a classical selection as its theme--Rossini's William Tell Overture, Kreissler's? Flight of the Bumble Bee, Resnicek's Donna Diana Overture. (I'm sure that Mr Glavin will make the necessary edits to that list ;>) In that day, though, sneaking in "recorded" or "transcribed" was the equivalent of today's whispered legal IDs and COLs. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From stephanie@gordsven.com Sun Aug 28 19:10:31 2005 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Vacuum tubes In-Reply-To: <002e01c5abd0$ba11c080$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <4310DBF3.5005.6883E5@localhost> <002e01c5abd0$ba11c080$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, Dan Strassberg wrote: > Is that old RCA receiver in a wooden cabinet? If so, that may explain the > great sound to a much greater degree than do the tubes. That said, a group > of (wealthy) audio enthusiasts believe that "tube sound" is real. The I collect old radios. Let's put it this way: There is good sounding tube audio equipment and there is bad sounding tube audio equipment. There is good sounding solid-state gear adn then there is bad sounding solid-state gear. I have some solid-state hi-fidelity transistor tabletop sets that sound very nice. I have others that sound OK...and still others that sound horrendous. Ditto their tube cousins. It all depends on the design of the item and the quality of some of the components that are used. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Aug 28 18:53:28 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:53:28 -0400 Subject: It is by General Order 52 that we tell you the following is a player piano In-Reply-To: <20050828202948.37538.qmail@web30709.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050828184914.02eede80@pop.registeredsite.com> At 01:29 PM 8/28/2005 -0700, John Bolduc wrote: >I was just glancing over the 1929 Federal Radio Commision's Annual Report >and noted a section discussion deception of the public as to origin of >musical selections. In short, each and every performance broadcast, per >General Order 52, was to be idetified if it was from a phonograph record, >player piano, mechanical or electrical reproduction. It further stated >that each selection within the broadcast needed to be specifically >designated as such, as listenrs often often enter the program at different >points in its sequence. And after much complaining from announcers and station managers, this ruling was rescinded in 1932. The rule had been created because the theaters and concert halls worried that radio would destroy their business by offering music for free, so this was kind of a way to make sure the public knew they were getting "inferior" recorded music. The public, however, didn't care. They attended the theatre, they bought records, and they listened to radio. Ultimately, intense lobbying from the NAB and others caused the Federal Radio Commission to rescind the order. But that happens to be why Al Jarvis and later Martin Block called their show "Make Believe Ballroom"-- because they were playing records rather than live concerts. And yes, when tape came along, many years after Gen. Order 52 went away, stations had to say a program was "recorded and transcribed" so people would know it wasn't live... From billo@shoreham.net Sun Aug 28 20:56:12 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:56:12 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050828180928.02ccaff8@gwind.pair.com> References: <200508282149.j7SLngTY018351@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20050828180928.02ccaff8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <43125D2C.2060306@shoreham.net> Scott Fybush wrote: > Not true. He's yet to make that prediction for WGBH :-) > > "Mega 89.7, reggaeton y mas..." > > s > "Pele 850... All Soccer All the Time... Scooooooore!" "Better Hit Gregorian Chants 107.3 for your workday." Bill O'Neill From radiotony@comcast.net Sun Aug 28 20:49:59 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:49:59 -0400 Subject: Jess Cain ... Message-ID: <200508290130.j7T1UYLL063366@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> I worked with Jess' son Chris at Copy Cop in downtown Boston and he was a total jerk. I think it was because his dad was a big shot in radio. But I did admire his strive to "make it" on his own and not rely on his father's "fame" to get somewhere. Best, Anthony Schinella Program Director/News/A&E WKXL 1450 AM/Concord, NH http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Aug 28 21:47:36 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:47:36 -0400 Subject: Jess Cain ... In-Reply-To: <200508290130.j7T1UYLL063366@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050828213946.02f186d0@pop.registeredsite.com> At 08:49 PM 8/28/2005 -0400, radiotony wrote: >I worked with Jess' son Chris at Copy Cop in downtown Boston and he was a >total jerk. Alas, not everyone with famous parents manages to survive the experience unscathed. Some kids of famous parents end up trying to act like they are really important, or they over-compensate for the famous mom or dad never being there for them when they were growing up. Then, there are others who avoid the limelight or act like just average, normal people. It's a truism that fame affects people differently-- for example, I can name you some rock groups I worked with when I was on the air who were totally down to earth and not conceited at all; and then there were those who acted like even talking to you was doing you SUCH a favour and you oughta be grateful. We've also seen people on TV who seem so wonderful and warm and loving, and then you meet them in person and they are rude, nasty and insolent. I am told on very good authority that Jerry Lewis, charitable and compassionate person that he is every year on the telethon, hates journalists and is a very moody guy besides. Now, whether you think journalists are wonderful or whether you think they are scum, they are still just trying to do their job, but some performers can't help but be nasty to them. And then the camera or the mike is on, and that same person is just sooooo sweet. Go figure... From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sun Aug 28 21:58:57 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:58:57 -0400 Subject: Vacuum tubes Message-ID: <200508282158.AA3259105310@mail.ttlc.net> Stephanie Weil wrote: >There is good sounding tube audio equipment and there is bad >sounding tube audio equipment. > >There is good sounding solid-state gear adn then there is bad >sounding solid-state gear. > >I have some solid-state hi-fidelity transistor tabletop sets >that sound very nice. I have others that sound OK...and still >others that sound horrendous. > >Ditto their tube cousins. It all depends on the design of the item and >the quality of some of the components that are used. Let us not forget the Jean Shepard quote about the radio on the refrigerator at home: "...the 5-tube radio with the built-in hum" From john@minutemancomm.com Sat Aug 27 20:30:57 2005 From: john@minutemancomm.com (John Mullaney) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 20:30:57 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <045601c5ab44$f81070c0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: No that was V66 which was a local music TV channel like MTV that John owned for a few years. Before that John was a part timer on WBCN for a few years. When he started V66 he took David O'Leary and Tank with him from BCN. Tank returned a couple of years later and David came back to WBOS. V66 was sold a few years later Home Shopping Club who didn't need the studios and just used the transmitter site in Hudson. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Doug Drown Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:22 PM To: Dan Strassberg; A. Joseph Ross; Bob Nelson; boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain Johnny Gardner = John H.Garabedian. WPTR Albany and WORC Worcester when I was a kid, later founder of WGTR Natick and the home-shopping TV station that used to be on Channel 68 (am I right)? I don't know what he's doing these days. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "Doug Drown" ; "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Bob Nelson" ; Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > Johnny Gardner--that would be John H Garabedian, right? > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Drown" > To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Bob Nelson" > ; > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:43 PM > Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > > > > My goodness, I'd forgotten all about Auntie Clarissa. And then there was > > Johnny Gardner's old friend Mrs. McQuistin, who used to read the school > > lunch menus on WORC every weekday morning (with commentary). > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > > To: "Bob Nelson" ; > > ; "Doug Drown" > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:55 PM > > Subject: Re: the old days: Jess Cain > > > > > > > On 27 Aug 2005 at 11:27, Doug Drown wrote: > > > > > > > As the only Boston radio I can get up here (most of the time) is 'BZ, > > > > I have a question: Is Jess still with us? How old would he be? (And, > > > > for that matter, how old is Dave Maynard?) > > > > > > And is Dave Maynard's Auntie Clarissa still alive? > > > > > > -- > > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > > > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > > > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Aug 28 22:17:11 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:17:11 -0400 Subject: Vacuum tubes In-Reply-To: <200508282158.AA3259105310@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <431237E7.8193.733D7A@localhost> On 28 Aug 2005 at 21:58, rogerkirk wrote: > Stephanie Weil wrote: > > >There is good sounding tube audio equipment and there is bad > >sounding tube audio equipment. Funny, I never got that post from Stephanie. I wonder what happened. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dcassell@gmail.com Sun Aug 28 22:20:19 2005 From: dcassell@gmail.com (Damon Cassell) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:20:19 -0400 Subject: Vacuum tubes In-Reply-To: <200508282158.AA3259105310@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200508282158.AA3259105310@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <2979f9f405082819205d27ae0b@mail.gmail.com> Panasonic makes a high-end "audiophile" head unit for cars with a vacuum tube. It even has swing-needle meters. They bill it as the "world's best car receiver with a built-in vacuum tube", which is ironic considering that these days, it's probably the world's only car receiver with a built-in vacuum tube... It's for the Japanese market, but is available in the US through various gray market importers. http://www.audiocubes.com/product_info.php?cPath=61_78&products_id=722 Damon From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Aug 28 22:24:24 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:24:24 -0400 Subject: Infomercial on WBZ Message-ID: <003d01c5ac40$c61c6040$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> I was just in the car and was surprised to hear an infomercial starting on WBZ. Is this a regular part of their programmimg these days? Pretty low rent for such a big signal. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Aug 28 22:31:13 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:31:13 -0400 Subject: Infomercial on WBZ In-Reply-To: <003d01c5ac40$c61c6040$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <43123B31.26851.8015EF@localhost> On 28 Aug 2005 at 22:24, Daniel Billings wrote: > I was just in the car and was surprised to hear an infomercial > starting on WBZ. Is this a regular part of their programmimg these > days? They've had one at 9:30, right after "Looking at the Law" for quite some time. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Sun Aug 28 22:19:12 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:19:12 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <43125D2C.2060306@shoreham.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20050828180928.02ccaff8@gwind.pair.com> <200508282149.j7SLngTY018351@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20050828180928.02ccaff8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050828221838.026b1c80@gwind.pair.com> At 08:56 PM 8/28/2005 -0400, you wrote: >Scott Fybush wrote: > >>Not true. He's yet to make that prediction for WGBH :-) >> >>"Mega 89.7, reggaeton y mas..." >> >>s >"Pele 850... All Soccer All the Time... Scooooooore!" >"Better Hit Gregorian Chants 107.3 for your workday." At least one of those would be an improvement over the present format ;-) s From stephanie@gordsven.com Sun Aug 28 23:06:36 2005 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Vacuum tubes In-Reply-To: <431237E7.8193.733D7A@localhost> References: <431237E7.8193.733D7A@localhost> Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > Funny, I never got that post from Stephanie. I wonder what happened. Your mailbox was full. The message got bounced. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Aug 28 21:56:13 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:56:13 -0400 Subject: Infomercial on WBZ Message-ID: <000b01c5ac3c$d7ad4800$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> I was just in the car and was surprised to hear an infomercial starting on WBZ. Is this a regular part of their programmimg these days? Pretty low rent for such a big signal. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Aug 28 23:44:32 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:44:32 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050828221838.026b1c80@gwind.pair.com> References: <43125D2C.2060306@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <43124C60.12266.C33838@localhost> On 28 Aug 2005 at 22:19, Scott Fybush wrote: > >>"Mega 89.7, reggaeton y mas..." > >> > >>s > >"Pele 850... All Soccer All the Time... Scooooooore!" > >"Better Hit Gregorian Chants 107.3 for your workday." > > At least one of those would be an improvement over the present format > ;-) Well, at one time when I was having trouble with WCRB's signal in my office, I tried WHRB in the afternoon, and darn it, they DID play Gregorian chants endlesly for an hour or so every afternoon. It actually made me appreciate WCRB's Top 40 approach. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From gspatola@wavecable.com Sun Aug 28 23:59:12 2005 From: gspatola@wavecable.com (Glenn and Judy Spatola) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:59:12 -0700 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain / John Garabedian References: <43107ED4.22351.DE6849@localhost><044801c5ab3f$a07ec8c0$6401a8c0@pastor2><000c01c5ab3f$f7c37b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg><045601c5ab44$f81070c0$6401a8c0@pastor2><000c01c5ab47$58870ac0$19eefea9@dstrassberg><5.1.0.14.2.20050827194941.02e545c8@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20050828113551.02b47d18@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <008f01c5ac4e$0469db40$c12c7118@wavecable.com> It's great to see names like Jess Cain, Dave Maynard, Bruce Bradley, and John H. Garabedian mentioned on this list. John H also did a stint at WBCN, in the early 80s I believe. He would occasionally refer to himself on the air as John GaraBCN. I had the opportunity to listen to WPGC while I was stationed at Andrews AFB, just outside of DC, during 1971 and 1972. The call letters indicate that Morningside, MD was in Prince George's County, still one of the most populous counties in the country. Glenn Spatola Port Orchard, WA From gspatola@wavecable.com Sun Aug 28 23:49:53 2005 From: gspatola@wavecable.com (Glenn and Judy Spatola) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:49:53 -0700 Subject: Jess Cain ... References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050828213946.02f186d0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <007d01c5ac4c$b6e9e140$c12c7118@wavecable.com> Jess' son did an internship of sorts at WNEB in Worcester in 1981 or '82 while I was there. He had a bit of an attitude, as I recall, but he was somewhat personable. Glenn Spatola Port Orchard, WA > At 08:49 PM 8/28/2005 -0400, radiotony wrote: > >I worked with Jess' son Chris at Copy Cop in downtown Boston and he was a > >total jerk. From rac@gabrielmass.com Mon Aug 29 01:30:25 2005 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:30:25 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <43124C60.12266.C33838@localhost> References: <43125D2C.2060306@shoreham.net> <43124C60.12266.C33838@localhost> Message-ID: <43129D71.9030803@gabrielmass.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > Well, at one time when I was having trouble with WCRB's signal in my office, I tried WHRB > in the afternoon, and darn it, they DID play Gregorian chants endlesly for an hour or so every > afternoon. It actually made me appreciate WCRB's Top 40 approach. > In June and January, they could run a Gregorian Chant Orgy (tm). --RC From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Mon Aug 29 09:10:35 2005 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:10:35 -0400 Subject: Infomercial on WBZ References: <003d01c5ac40$c61c6040$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <001401c5ac9b$0b4c1110$98803418@DG07P241> They've had one on at 3:30 am Sunday for a long time. It cuts the last hour out of Jordan Rich's show - very irritating. Paul Sandwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:24 PM Subject: Infomercial on WBZ > I was just in the car and was surprised to hear an infomercial starting on > WBZ. Is this a regular part of their programmimg these days? > > Pretty low rent for such a big signal. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > From billo@shoreham.net Mon Aug 29 10:40:43 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:40:43 -0400 Subject: the old days: Jess Cain In-Reply-To: <43129D71.9030803@gabrielmass.com> References: <43125D2C.2060306@shoreham.net> <43124C60.12266.C33838@localhost> <43129D71.9030803@gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <43131E6B.5030706@shoreham.net> > In June and January, they could run a Gregorian Chant Orgy (tm). > > --RC > > Nice to see that the "GC" format is already 'trademarked' (tm) . Missed that bus. Doh! b - From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Aug 29 11:15:03 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Infomercial on WBZ Message-ID: <20050829151503.9B78560C19@mprdmxin.myway.com> Yes--every couple months my friend Frank Ochieng makes an appearance on Jordan's show, along with Garry and Marilyn Armstrong, talking movies and the show ends at 3:30 am. Then: "The following is a paid commercial program..." >>They've had one on at 3:30 am Sunday for a long time. It cuts the last hour out of Jordan Rich's show - very irritating. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From rickkelly@gmail.com Mon Aug 29 10:05:59 2005 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:05:59 -0400 Subject: Jess Cain ... In-Reply-To: <007d01c5ac4c$b6e9e140$c12c7118@wavecable.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050828213946.02f186d0@pop.registeredsite.com> <007d01c5ac4c$b6e9e140$c12c7118@wavecable.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd1050829070533e7a19f@mail.gmail.com> On 8/28/05, Glenn and Judy Spatola wrote: > Jess' son did an internship of sorts at WNEB in Worcester in 1981 or '82 > while I was there. He had a bit of an attitude, as I recall, but he was > somewhat personable. Jess's son Jesse works for Clear Channel in Maine, as I understand it. -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Mon Aug 29 13:16:03 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:16:03 -0400 Subject: Infomercial on WBZ References: <000b01c5ac3c$d7ad4800$4ded05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <01df01c5acbd$b246ada0$6401a8c0@xyz> From: "Daniel Billings" > I was just in the car and was surprised to hear an infomercial starting on > WBZ. Is this a regular part of their programmimg these days? > Pretty low rent for such a big signal. Low rent...or easy money...depending on your perspective. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Aug 29 14:16:37 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:16:37 -0400 Subject: Fybush: AAR to 1390 (Burl VT), country to 93.7 Message-ID: <1fbbbced050829111651a8546@mail.gmail.com> Scott Fybush reports that (Lake Champlain area) WTWK 1070 is moving its calls and Air America (and other libtalk) programming to what is currently classic country WVAA 1390. Classic country will re-appear, though, on 93.7 out of Addison VT (as was noted on various boards, with the "WUSX 93.7" website making a surprise, if pre-mature, appearance.) What will 1070 be running? Franken and friends debut on 1390 on Sep. 6 http://fybush.com/nerw.html From scott@fybush.com Mon Aug 29 17:14:45 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:14:45 -0400 Subject: Jay leaves BZ? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050829171302.026cd0a8@gwind.pair.com> AllAccess.com is reporting that Jay McQuaide is leaving WBZ at the end of the week to do corporate communications for Blue Cross/Blue Shield. Discuss... s From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Aug 29 16:49:47 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:49:47 -0500 Subject: It is by General Order 52 that we tell you the following is a playerpiano Message-ID: <20050829204947.DD238CA07F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "John Bolduc" Subject: Re: It is by General Order 52 that we tell you the following is a playerpiano Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:50:26 -0400 > > Back in the 50s (40s, too, I think), the announcement had to be made at the > beginning or end of each broadcast that used recorded music (maybe beginning > AND end), but I gather that certain music was exempted--perhaps considered > to be sound effects. For example, I don't recall ever hearing "transcribed" > in any of the Trendall-Campbell-Moore productions that originated at WXYZ > Detroit--Lone Ranger, Green Hornet, Challenge of the Yukon, et al. Each used > an orchestral recording of a classical selection as its theme--Rossini's > William Tell Overture, Kreissler's? Flight of the Bumble Bee, Resnicek's > Donna Diana Overture. (I'm sure that Mr Glavin will make the necessary edits > to that list ;>) Much too easy; "The Flight of the Bumblebee" recording that opened "The Green Hornet" was an orchestral arrangement of a piano piece by Nicolai Rimsky-Korsakov (one guy, not: theme by Rimsky/arranged by Korsakov). You got Emil von Reznicek right except for the spelling... nuts, the theme is now playing in my head and can't get it out: Dah-dah-dah-Dah dah-Dah-de-DAH... -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billo@shoreham.net Mon Aug 29 18:18:52 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:18:52 -0400 Subject: 93.7 Stunting, Vermont Message-ID: <431389CC.1050506@shoreham.net> 93.7 in Addison, Vermont is running a continuous 30 second loop: "Starting August 30th, there'll be a new station on this frequency. Don't worry, we'll continue to play whatever-wherever exclusively on 103 point 3 FM..." As Scott reported in NERW, 93.7 will flip to country. Bill O'Neill Shoreham, Vermont From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Aug 29 18:19:28 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:19:28 -0400 Subject: Jay leaves BZ? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050829171302.026cd0a8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050829181910.10027788@pop.registeredsite.com> At 05:14 PM 8/29/2005 -0400, Scott Fybush wrote: >AllAccess.com is reporting that Jay McQuaide is leaving WBZ at the end of >the week to do corporate communications for Blue Cross/Blue Shield. Did Flo Jonic find another job yet? From billo@shoreham.net Mon Aug 29 18:43:30 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:43:30 -0400 Subject: Jay leaves BZ? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050829171302.026cd0a8@gwind.pair.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20050829171302.026cd0a8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <43138F92.6010901@shoreham.net> Scott Fybush wrote: > AllAccess.com is reporting that Jay McQuaide is leaving WBZ at the end > of the week to do corporate communications for Blue Cross/Blue Shield. > > Discuss... > > s Jay was the heir apparent from about the 3rd year he landed at WBZ, so it seemed. This is a surprising move. I knew Jay when he was cutting his teeth at WJUL (ULowell) over 20 years ago. One of his first questions was how to get a clear Marti shot from City Manager Johnson's office so that he could do a long-form live interview with him. This was significant for a number of reasons not the least of which was that there was no local news infrastructure at the college signal, no one had ever tried it. He was eager to do what was needed regardless as to whether or not it had been done/could be done. It worked. Jay would soon land at WLLH News and the rest was history. I recall him to be a genuinely nice guy - and he made it in radio!! Bill O'Neill From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Aug 29 20:11:45 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:11:45 -0400 Subject: Fybush: AAR to 1390 (Burl VT), country to 93.7 In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced050829111651a8546@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced050829111651a8546@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 2:16 PM -0400 8/29/05, Bob Nelson wrote: >Scott Fybush reports that (Lake Champlain area) WTWK 1070 is moving >its calls and Air America (and other libtalk) programming to what is >currently classic country WVAA 1390. It so happens I was in Vermont today, and heard them announce this on 1070. They said that 1390 will be carrying the entire AA lineup, I'm guessing from the way they said it that 1070 currently does not? Anyone know, how does the 1390 signal compare with that of 1070? -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Aug 29 21:06:09 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:06:09 -0400 Subject: Jay leaves BZ? In-Reply-To: <43138F92.6010901@shoreham.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20050829171302.026cd0a8@gwind.pair.com> <43138F92.6010901@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <17171.45313.591081.491714@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Jay was the heir apparent from about the 3rd year he landed at WBZ, so > it seemed. This is a surprising move. Sure, but how long has he been at 'BZ, with no evident prospect of GL retiring? -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Mon Aug 29 22:13:06 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:13:06 -0400 Subject: Fybush: AAR to 1390 (Burl VT), country to 93.7 In-Reply-To: References: <1fbbbced050829111651a8546@mail.gmail.com> <1fbbbced050829111651a8546@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050829221028.0278fde8@gwind.pair.com> >It so happens I was in Vermont today, and heard them announce this on >1070. They said that 1390 will be carrying the entire AA lineup, I'm >guessing from the way they said it that 1070 currently does not? > >Anyone know, how does the 1390 signal compare with that of 1070? 1070's a daytimer, which is no fun in Vermont (or Plattsburgh, where it's actually located) in December. Even when it's on the air, 1070 is a lousy signal on the Vermont side, with 5 kW from a short tower. 1390 is also 5 kW, day and night, from three towers right in Burlington. It's a far more potent signal on the Vermont side. IIRC, it's not especially impressive in Plattsburgh, particularly at night. s From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Mon Aug 29 22:34:18 2005 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fybush: AAR to 1390 (Burl VT), country to 93.7 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050829221028.0278fde8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <20050830023418.94730.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> On Monday, August 29, 2005, Larry Weil wrote: > >Anyone know, how does the 1390 signal compare with > that of 1070? to which Scott Fybush replied: > 1070's a daytimer, which is no fun in Vermont (or > Plattsburgh, where it's > actually located) in December. Even when it's on the > air, 1070 is a lousy > signal on the Vermont side, with 5 kW from a short > tower. 1390 is also 5 > kW, day and night, from three towers right in > Burlington. It's a far more > potent signal on the Vermont side. IIRC, it's not > especially impressive in > Plattsburgh, particularly at night. > Although its been a few years now since I've lived in Plattsburgh, I can echo Scott's sentiments about AM 1070, even when on the air, being an absolutely atrocious signal not only in Vermont, but even in its own COL of Plattsburgh. I can't understand, for the life of me, why that facility hasn't just been donated to SUNY Plattsburgh, given thats about the only organization that I can think of up there that might be able to actually make something even remotely useful out of it. As far as WKDR ... err WVAA (I guess old habits die hard), I've honestly never tried to listen to them at night in Plattsburgh so I can't vouch for their night signal there, but during the day 1390 puts a very respectable signal over Plattsburgh and the immediate area south of town (never tried to get it north of town though, day or night). Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 29 22:42:37 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:42:37 -0400 Subject: E-mail problems Message-ID: <43138F5D.1724.61C2D1@localhost> I've been having e-mail problems over the weekend, as a result of changing to a different server. Because of that, I seem to have missed most of the discussion that I started about tube equipment. Does the list have an archive somewhere? Because I'm on a different server, I am going to be able to have two mailboxes, lawyer@attorneyross.com and Joe@attorneyross.com. I would prefer to have all non-business e-mail come to Joe@attorneyross.com. This will allow business mail to be archived separately on my office computer. Garrett, please change the list address to that as well. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Mon Aug 29 22:43:28 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:43:28 -0400 Subject: Jay leaves BZ? References: <5.1.0.14.0.20050829171302.026cd0a8@gwind.pair.com> <43138F92.6010901@shoreham.net> <17171.45313.591081.491714@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <006401c5ad0c$9a6d8a10$6401a8c0@pastor2> Jay's departure from 'BZ (and my previous post about Jess Cain) reminded me of 'BZ newscasters from yesteryear like Don Batting and Art Gardner. How many of those old alumni are still around? I think I read that Streeter Stuart passed away a few years back. And where is Don Huff now? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:06 PM Subject: Re: Jay leaves BZ? > < said: > > > Jay was the heir apparent from about the 3rd year he landed at WBZ, so > > it seemed. This is a surprising move. > > Sure, but how long has he been at 'BZ, with no evident prospect of GL > retiring? > > -GAWollman > > From scott@fybush.com Tue Aug 30 00:02:49 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:02:49 -0400 Subject: Jay leaves BZ? In-Reply-To: <006401c5ad0c$9a6d8a10$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20050829171302.026cd0a8@gwind.pair.com> <43138F92.6010901@shoreham.net> <17171.45313.591081.491714@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050829235306.025d9f38@gwind.pair.com> At 10:43 PM 8/29/2005 -0400, Doug Drown wrote: >Jay's departure from 'BZ (and my previous post about Jess Cain) reminded me >of 'BZ newscasters from yesteryear like Don Batting and Art Gardner. How >many of those old alumni are still around? I think I read that Streeter >Stuart passed away a few years back. >And where is Don Huff now? >-Doug Don Batting is happily retired. I saw him at the Brudnoy memorial and he looked great. Isn't Don Huff still doing part-time news at BZ? s From hykker@grolen.com Tue Aug 30 07:42:53 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 07:42:53 -0400 Subject: Fybush: AAR to 1390 (Burl VT), country to 93.7 In-Reply-To: <20050830023418.94730.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20050829221028.0278fde8@gwind.pair.com> <20050830023418.94730.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050830074026.01b62668@pop3.grolen.com> Matthew Osborne wrote: >Although its been a few years now since I've lived in >Plattsburgh, I can echo Scott's sentiments about AM >1070, even when on the air, being an absolutely >atrocious signal not only in Vermont, but even in its >own COL of Plattsburgh. Has this facility been allowed to deteriorate over the years? I somehow recall being able to hear them in southern Vt. back in the 60s/early 70s. Don't think I listened regularly, but was able to pick them up on a table radio. From hykker@grolen.com Tue Aug 30 07:44:37 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 07:44:37 -0400 Subject: Jay leaves BZ? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050829235306.025d9f38@gwind.pair.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20050829171302.026cd0a8@gwind.pair.com> <43138F92.6010901@shoreham.net> <17171.45313.591081.491714@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20050829235306.025d9f38@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050830074343.01b61ef8@pop3.grolen.com> Scott Fybush wrote: >Isn't Don Huff still doing part-time news at BZ? I'm pretty sure I've heard him within the past couple weeks. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue Aug 30 07:39:23 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 07:39:23 -0400 Subject: Jay leaves BZ? In-Reply-To: <006401c5ad0c$9a6d8a10$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <000e01c5ad57$7820c260$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Doug wrote: >>Jay's departure from 'BZ (and my previous post about Jess Cain) reminded me of 'BZ newscasters from yesteryear like Don Batting and Art Gardner. How many of those old alumni are still around? I think I read that Streeter Stuart passed away a few years back. And where is Don Huff now? -Doug << Don Huff is still in the BZ newsroom, full time producing/assignment editing and occasional on-air. Still making the drive from Kennebunkport every day, God love him! Maybe with the unusual exodus we'll hear more from (and of) him. - -Chuck Igo From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Tue Aug 30 11:29:52 2005 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:29:52 +0000 Subject: E-mail problems Message-ID: <43147B70.8060003@Gmail.com> One of our esteemed list laywers, A. Joseph Ross, wrote, > I've been having e-mail problems over the weekend, as a result > of changing to a different server. Because of that, I seem to > have missed most of the discussion that I started about tube > equipment. > Does the list have an archive somewhere? Yup, right here: http://lists.bostonradio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/2005-August/date.html ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Aug 30 17:01:27 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:01:27 -0500 Subject: Jay leaves BZ? Message-ID: <20050830210127.9BD5A86B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chuck Igo" >To: "'Doug Drown'" >Subject: RE: Jay leaves BZ? >Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 07:39:23 -040 > > Don Huff is still in the BZ newsroom, full time producing/assignment > editing and occasional on-air. Still making the drive from > Kennebunkport every day, God love him! > > Maybe with the unusual exodus we'll hear more from (and of) him. > Speaking of ex-WBZ staffers...Robert Ames is now doing afternoon drive on WBUR. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Tue Aug 30 21:58:42 2005 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fybush: AAR to 1390 (Burl VT), country to 93.7 In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050830074026.01b62668@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <20050831015842.96092.qmail@web52609.mail.yahoo.com> On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 07:42:53 SteveOrdinetz wrote, referring to the AM 1070 facility in Plattsburgh: > Has this facility been allowed to deteriorate over > the years? I somehow > recall being able to hear them in southern Vt. back > in the 60s/early > 70s. Don't think I listened regularly, but was able > to pick them up on a > table radio. In all honesty I would not be surprised at all if thats the case. When I was in college at Plattsburgh, I remember it sounding like it was run on a shoestring budget. And given that its only a daytimer, I can't believe that place would get any significant amount of listeners (if any at all), much less actually turn a profit in this day and age. With that in mind, it would only make logical sense to me that its facilities have been allowed to deteriorate over the years. Furthermore, and Scott Fybush would have to verify this because I have never actually seen their tower and studios, I understand that station is run out of an old beat up trailer somewhere on a back road in the town of Peru (south of Plattsburgh). From what I've heard, taking one look at the facilities they have and use would lead one to believe that the place has not seen any real maintenance in many many years. Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From billo@shoreham.net Tue Aug 30 23:20:12 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:20:12 -0400 Subject: WXAL Message-ID: <431521EC.9030809@shoreham.net> As anticipated, WXAL (93.7 Addison) flipped to bird-fed classic country. It's not the same product as the one on sister station WVAA (1390 Burlington), the signal that is expected to go Radio America. The morning seemed like a jockless roll of music, not very tight so I assume it's a temporary fix until AM drive is worked out (but you never know now in the world of Frank, Jack, Henry, Ralph, Engelbert.... The classic country format does make sense given that much of 93.7's signal still serves (very) rural Addison County, NY's Essex Cty., and even Rutland County to the south, likely aiming at a friendlier demo for the format than a city of colleges. Hall Radio's WOKO (98.9 Burlington) being so community oriented and very much live and local (remotes, causes, high profile) will not have much to worry about unless 93.7 really digs in. Phoning it in or bird will keep the meters moving and open up a place for some inventory and that may well be enough. Will keep an ear on it. Bill O'Neill From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Aug 31 14:28:44 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:28:44 -0500 Subject: WXKS-AM Starts IBOC Transmission Message-ID: <20050831182844.AF9A686B11@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://lists.BostonRadio.org/pipermail/boston-radio-interest/attachments/20050831/14c0f67c/attachment.ksh From xtrovato@yahoo.com Wed Aug 31 22:45:32 2005 From: xtrovato@yahoo.com (Rob) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:45:32 -0400 Subject: Jack Lazare Message-ID: <005d01c5ae9f$92bf4990$0180050a@gmiboston.com> Years back, I had heard that Jack LAzare left WHUE to purchase a small community-type station in Connecticut. Since then, no one seems to have heard from him. Does anyone know What station he ended up purchasing? thank you