From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Sep 1 00:05:32 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Sep 1 00:05:35 2004 Subject: Moderator absence Message-ID: <200409010405.i8145WNv028757@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Your humble moderator will be attending the 71st National Radio Club convention in Batavia, N.Y. through Sunday. Any requests or posts which require moderator approval will be held until then. -GAWollman From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Sep 1 00:39:21 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Sep 1 00:41:47 2004 Subject: Moderator absence In-Reply-To: <200409010405.i8145WNv028757@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <41351A39.11571.6E98EA@localhost> On 1 Sep 2004 at 0:05, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Your humble moderator will be attending the 71st National Radio Club > convention in Batavia, N.Y. through Sunday. Any requests or posts > which require moderator approval will be held until then. Is anyone on this list going to the World Science Fiction Convention this weekend in Boston? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed Sep 1 00:54:21 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed Sep 1 00:54:34 2004 Subject: Moderator absence References: <200409010405.i8145WNv028757@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <001201c48fdf$c4389ce0$6600a8c0@brianhome> > Your humble moderator will be attending the 71st National Radio Club > convention in Batavia, N.Y. through Sunday. Any requests or posts > which require moderator approval will be held until then. Party time! From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Sep 1 03:22:17 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Sep 1 03:22:26 2004 Subject: good DX Tue. afternoon Message-ID: <20040901072217.475F63962@mprdmxin.myway.com> Anyone notice some interesting DX Tue. afternoon (with humid air moving away)? While on Rt 128 between Peabody and Reading I picked up: --KSUI 91.7 Cedar Rapids, IA (NPR)--WMWM off air --CBSM 89.5 Sault Ste. Marie, ON-- CBC ("Sudbury" local news; mentions of "Provincial Police" and "Provincial Park" and "coming up on 'The World At Six'..." --French language stuff on 88.1 (no sign of WMBR--their site says they're temp. off air) Maybe CBON 88.1 Sault Ste. Marie? _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Sep 1 06:39:10 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Sep 1 06:40:04 2004 Subject: Moderator absence References: <200409010405.i8145WNv028757@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <001201c48fdf$c4389ce0$6600a8c0@brianhome> Message-ID: <001d01c49010$0487c660$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Joking, right? I've been a member of NRC for about 10 years and in all that time, in DX News, the club magazine, I don't think I've EVER seen the name of a female contributor. I wonder whether the NRC has any women members. Certainly if that female engineer who helped to build WGI, the AMRAD station in Medford back in the 20s were still alive, she'd be an NRC member. (Donna has written volumes about her, but I can't recall her name.) There is nothing about DXing that should make it such a completely male-dominated hobby. Several women engineers contribute regularly to Barry Mishkind's Broadcast Engineering mailing list, but these are people who WORK in radio and TV. Although they may also be radio hobbyists--many who work in the industry are--these women contribute to Barry's list because of their professional connection with the industry--not because they are hobbyists, if, indeed, they are. So, anyhow, do you think a get-together of an all-male group of geeks/geezers qualifies as "party time?" The conventioneers may have some fun, but it doesn't sound like partying--at least it doesn't to me. (OK, the attendees may include a few members' wives who reluctantly allowed themselves to be dragged along to the convention.) -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Vita To: Garrett Wollman ; Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:54 AM Subject: Re: Moderator absence > > Your humble moderator will be attending the 71st National Radio Club > > convention in Batavia, N.Y. through Sunday. Any requests or posts > > which require moderator approval will be held until then. > > Party time! From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Sep 1 07:38:05 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Sep 1 07:38:06 2004 Subject: Moderator absence In-Reply-To: <001d01c49010$0487c660$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <200409010405.i8145WNv028757@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <001201c48fdf$c4389ce0$6600a8c0@brianhome> <001d01c49010$0487c660$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040901073219.01bf4c28@pop3.bit-net.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: >Joking, right? I've been a member of NRC for about 10 years and in all >that time, in DX News, the club magazine, I don't think I've EVER seen the >name of a female contributor. >There is nothing about DXing that should make it such a completely >male-dominated hobby. Several women engineers contribute regularly to Barry >Mishkind's Broadcast Engineering mailing list, but these are people who WORK >in radio and TV. Although they may also be radio hobbyists--many who work in >the industry are--these women contribute to Barry's list because of their >professional connection with the industry--not because they are hobbyists, >if, indeed, they are. Dunno, it just seems like a "guy" hobby, don't think I've ever known any women who were even slightly interested in it...even geeky tech-types aren't THAT geeky. :-0 Sort of like the male-female ratio at a Star Trek or 3 Stooges convention. Other than Rachel E., I can't think of any other women who contribute to the broadcast.net boards either (and as you said, she's employed in the industry). From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Sep 1 12:32:42 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed Sep 1 12:33:30 2004 Subject: Moderator absence In-Reply-To: <001d01c49010$0487c660$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <200409010405.i8145WNv028757@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <001201c48fdf$c4389ce0$6600a8c0@brianhome> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040901123136.02a3ccf8@pop.registeredsite.com> At 06:39 AM 9/1/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Joking, right? I've been a member of NRC for about 10 years and in all >that time, in DX News, the club magazine, I don't think I've EVER seen the >name of a female contributor. I wonder whether the NRC has any women >members. Certainly if that female engineer who helped to build WGI, the >AMRAD station in Medford back in the 20s were still alive, she'd be an NRC >member. (Donna has written volumes about her, but I can't recall her name.) >There is nothing about DXing that should make it such a completely >male-dominated hobby. Eunice Randall, may she rest in peace. And I contribute to the Ham History list-serv, but have never done the NRC thing, even though I dx'ed for many years. From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Sep 1 17:11:16 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Sep 1 17:11:30 2004 Subject: Moderator absence Message-ID: <20040901211116.79B5DCA089@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 00:39:21 -0400 >To: Garrett Wollman >Subject: Re: Moderator absence > On 1 Sep 2004 at 0:05, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > Your humble moderator will be attending the 71st National Radio Club > > convention in Batavia, N.Y. through Sunday. Any requests or posts > > which require moderator approval will be held until then. > > Is anyone on this list going to the World Science Fiction Convention this weekend in Boston? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > I thought that was a month ago. Lurch, from the Addams Family saluted and said "I'm reporting for duty". -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billo@shoreham.net Wed Sep 1 19:16:36 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Sep 1 19:16:55 2004 Subject: Talk from and Easier Time Message-ID: <000001c49079$bb6ad5c0$0200a8c0@boneill> What follows is a letter submitted to the editor, Lowell Sun, published on 8/30: I hosted the Bill O'Neill Show on WCAP for a number of years. We relocated to the Champlain Valley in Vermont in 2000. Hearing of Flossie Wilson's passing at age 81 was significant for the fact that it brought back such wonderful memories of genuinely good conversation on many a Saturday morning on the radio. It was an easier time. There was no "9-11." The only political challenges were lurking in the shadows of the Clinton oval office. The dollar was up. Gas prices were down. A Saturday morning talk show meant for an early awakening - well worth the effort. Flossie Wilson, rest in peace. I can't think of Flossie without her daughter, Rossi. The duo of "Rossi and Flossi" would call the show, sometimes on two different extensions in their home, and make for good radio. Flossie was a member of a very special group of callers. "The Developmental Hour," as I called it, was six to seven in the morning. Early Saturday morning. It was quite likely that a mere handful were up and about throughout the Merrimack Valley, fewer still, tuned to WCAP radio. (Many would try to dispute that fact but it felt better to think that it was just a select group.) I could always count on a call from Flossie in those early hours. It was that time of morning where there was no need to rush. No hurry. We could just sit back and "talk." "Bill O'Neill, how you DOIN'?! I haven't spoken to you in a LONG time." I can still hear Flossie's voice, rich with a genuiness so rare. She, no doubt, made calling talk radio appear easy, and for that I am thankful. She inspired others to join the conversation. Flossie's sign-off would be as memorable, "God bless you, Bill. I'll call you next time." God bless you, too, Flossie. Peace. Bill O'Neill Shoreham, Vermont From Dfaneuf@WBUR.BU.EDU Wed Sep 1 21:09:17 2004 From: Dfaneuf@WBUR.BU.EDU (Dave Faneuf) Date: Wed Sep 1 21:10:08 2004 Subject: On Point on XM Message-ID: <41363A7D.13447.85E859@localhost> Tonight's 9 to 10pm special "On Point" coverage of the RNC is being run on XM radio. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Sep 2 00:06:12 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Sep 2 00:05:57 2004 Subject: Moderator absence In-Reply-To: <20040901211116.79B5DCA089@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <413663F4.24582.5B4702@localhost> On 1 Sep 2004 at 16:11, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > Is anyone on this list going to the World Science Fiction Convention > > this weekend in Boston? > > > I thought that was a month ago. Lurch, from the Addams Family saluted and > said "I'm reporting for duty". On their Website, the World Science Fiction Convention has a list of the differences between their convention and the DNC, including such things as "Our visions of the future are =supposed= to be fiction." You can find them at www.boston2004.org (they managed to get that URL before the DNC). -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From fox893@yahoo.com Thu Sep 2 06:38:09 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Thu Sep 2 06:38:37 2004 Subject: Moderator absence In-Reply-To: <20040901211116.79B5DCA089@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20040902103809.62118.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> That was the convention whose website was boston2004? While the DNC's was Boston04. Apparently, there was some confusion about that... > > > Your humble moderator will be attending the 71st > National Radio Club > > > convention in Batavia, N.Y. through Sunday. Any > requests or posts > > > which require moderator approval will be held > until then. > > > > Is anyone on this list going to the World Science > Fiction Convention this weekend in Boston? > > > I thought that was a month ago. Lurch, from the > Addams Family saluted > and said "I'm reporting for duty". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Sep 2 17:28:27 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Sep 2 17:26:02 2004 Subject: WBZ's Expanded Traffic Coverage Message-ID: <200409021728.AA1296367892@mail.ttlc.net> According to a press release: "WBZ NewsRadio 1030 will have expanded coverage of the holiday weekend traffic problems." No other information given except the obligatory "every ten minutes on the 3's" Since they already allocate about 30-60 seconds every 10 minutes, I wonder what the term "expanded" truly means? Or is it just more hype? From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Sep 2 20:06:14 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Sep 2 20:06:18 2004 Subject: WBZ's Expanded Traffic Coverage In-Reply-To: <200409021728.AA1296367892@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200409021728.AA1296367892@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040902200501.01b1aa28@pop3.bit-net.com> rogerkirk wrote: >Since they already allocate about 30-60 seconds every 10 minutes, I wonder >what the term "expanded" truly means? Or is it just more hype? Some just hype I suppose. Maybe expanded geographical area to include more southern N.H. & Maine instead of just metro Boston? From markwats@comcast.net Thu Sep 2 20:07:02 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Sep 2 20:07:14 2004 Subject: New Owners For WNBP Message-ID: <006701c49149$f174a490$6f918318@Mark> All Access reports that WNBP (1450 Newburyport MA) has been sold by Radio Newburyport, headed up by Bob Fuller (of Fuller/Jeffrey Broadcasting fame) to North Shore 104.9, headed up by Todd Tanger. This marks Tanger's second radio property, Tanger owns WBOQ (104.9 Gloucester). Be curious to see if tanger makes any changes at WNBP, which currently runs a adult standards format. Mark Watson From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Sep 2 20:21:44 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Sep 2 20:19:19 2004 Subject: New Owners For WNBP Message-ID: <200409022021.AA562495554@mail.ttlc.net> "Mark Watson" informed us: >...WNBP (1450 Newburyport MA) has been sold by Radio Newburyport, >headed up by Bob Fuller (of Fuller/Jeffrey Broadcasting fame) to >North Shore 104.9, headed up by Todd Tanger. Hmmm? After Mr. Fuller's efforts to acquire the place where he started his radio career, wonder what drove him to let go? Health reasons? Spend more time with his family? Philosophical/Artistic differences? Money? From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Sep 3 13:59:05 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Sep 3 13:59:16 2004 Subject: WCAS nostalgia site Message-ID: <20040903175905.3758B12CCF@mprdmxin.myway.com> Bumped into this today, off a link from 440: Satisfaction. Site just got started a couple weeks back. http://www.740wcas.com/ _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Sep 3 14:45:39 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri Sep 3 14:46:13 2004 Subject: WCAS nostalgia site References: <20040903175905.3758B12CCF@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <000b01c491e6$41de2680$19eefea9@dstrassberg> GREAT! Bob Bittner has go to see (and hear) this, if he hasn't already. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Nelson To: Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 1:59 PM Subject: WCAS nostalgia site > > Bumped into this today, off a link from 440: Satisfaction. Site just got started a couple weeks back. > > http://www.740wcas.com/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From hmglaz@webtv.net Fri Sep 3 20:25:59 2004 From: hmglaz@webtv.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Fri Sep 3 20:26:08 2004 Subject: WDRC-FM drops "Oldies" for "Big Hits" Message-ID: <29821-41390B97-3257@storefull-3134.bay.webtv.net> After a couple of weeks during which the air personalities were noticeably omitting the "Oldies" in "Oldies 102.9," WDRC-FM Hartford has relabeled itself "Big Hits 102.9 DRC-FM," playing "the Biggest Hits of the '60s and '70s." On air, the station is being announced as "Big Hits one oh two nine," with no "point." Interesting that this past December, DRC-FM replaced its traditional listener-voted top 300 of all time with a chronological countdown of all the No. 1 songs of the '60s. The top 300 was consistently top-heavy with '50s favorites of longtime listeners -- songs such as "Hound Dog," "Rock Around the Clock" and especially "In the Still of the Night," which often ranked No. 1 in the listener vote. I wonder if out-of-timeframe hits like these will now be forgotten by DRC-FM, or relegated to the Sunday Night Sock Hop show, it that show is even allowed to continue. Oh and the DRC-FM Web site has been blown up. All that's left is a logo "102.9 DRC-FM" and the slogan "Hits of the '60s and '70s." And so oldies -- at least by that name -- disappear from the Hartford airwaves. How long will Boston's Oldies 103.3 hang on to its moniker? Howard From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Sep 3 20:40:12 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri Sep 3 20:40:20 2004 Subject: WDRC-FM drops "Oldies" for "Big Hits" In-Reply-To: <29821-41390B97-3257@storefull-3134.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <008101c49217$c5f11230$6400a8c0@AMD> I guess they must've gotten the "Big Hits" idea from B101 in Providence. It seems that the word "oldies" is almost becoming as bad as a swear to most of the 60s/70s stations these days. I could see WODS eventually just calling itself "103.3 WODS." Co-owned WOGL in Philly has for the most part dropped "oldies" as well, and has just been going by "98.1 WOGL." Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Howard Glazer Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 8:26 PM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: WDRC-FM drops "Oldies" for "Big Hits" After a couple of weeks during which the air personalities were noticeably omitting the "Oldies" in "Oldies 102.9," WDRC-FM Hartford has relabeled itself "Big Hits 102.9 DRC-FM," playing "the Biggest Hits of the '60s and '70s." On air, the station is being announced as "Big Hits one oh two nine," with no "point." Interesting that this past December, DRC-FM replaced its traditional listener-voted top 300 of all time with a chronological countdown of all the No. 1 songs of the '60s. The top 300 was consistently top-heavy with '50s favorites of longtime listeners -- songs such as "Hound Dog," "Rock Around the Clock" and especially "In the Still of the Night," which often ranked No. 1 in the listener vote. I wonder if out-of-timeframe hits like these will now be forgotten by DRC-FM, or relegated to the Sunday Night Sock Hop show, it that show is even allowed to continue. Oh and the DRC-FM Web site has been blown up. All that's left is a logo "102.9 DRC-FM" and the slogan "Hits of the '60s and '70s." And so oldies -- at least by that name -- disappear from the Hartford airwaves. How long will Boston's Oldies 103.3 hang on to its moniker? Howard From nostaticatall@comcast.net Sat Sep 4 02:07:24 2004 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Sat Sep 4 02:07:47 2004 Subject: WDRC-FM drops "Oldies" for "Big Hits" In-Reply-To: <29821-41390B97-3257@storefull-3134.bay.webtv.net> References: <29821-41390B97-3257@storefull-3134.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: The term "oldies" never really fit in Hartford. WDRC-FM only used it for the last few years. Prior to that, the station was known for many years as "Big D 103" which was spun off from the original slogan their old AM Top 40 format used in the 60's, "Hartford's Big D." I never understood why they dropped "Big D 103" in the first place. That term was well branded in the market. People knew the station played oldies music, and could locate it on the dial. WDRC-FM never really got any ratings spike by switching to "Oldies 102.9." Their identity has been unclear and they blew off some of their heritage when they made the change. By switching to "Big Hits" it's somewhat closer to their old slogan, plus it gets rid of the ineffective "oldies" term--at least in Hartford. I doubt that WODS will drop their moniker anytime soon. They seem to have a steady listening audience and their branding is well-established. It works for Boston, and unless the station experiences major ratings erosion, I can't see Infinity messing with the name. --Dave On Sep 3, 2004, at 8:25 PM, Howard Glazer wrote: > After a couple of weeks during which the air personalities were > noticeably omitting the "Oldies" in "Oldies 102.9," WDRC-FM Hartford > has > relabeled itself "Big Hits 102.9 DRC-FM," playing "the Biggest Hits of > the '60s and '70s." On air, the station is being announced as "Big Hits > one oh two nine," with no "point." > > And so oldies -- at least by that name -- disappear from the Hartford > airwaves. How long will Boston's Oldies 103.3 hang on to its moniker? From hinsdalien@yahoo.com Sat Sep 4 02:36:34 2004 From: hinsdalien@yahoo.com (Doug Bassett) Date: Sat Sep 4 02:36:42 2004 Subject: Radio-info,com Message-ID: <20040904063634.59205.qmail@web14922.mail.yahoo.com> Is Radio-info broken, or is it just me? I've been getting "forbidden" meesages when trying to access the site this evening (last evening/this early morning). Doug Bassett W. Brattleboro, Vt. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Sep 4 04:11:24 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Sep 4 04:11:34 2004 Subject: the hurricane and radio-info.com Message-ID: <20040904081124.09893396C@mprdmxin.myway.com> Some folks were wondering earlier what was up with radio-info.com Now they've given the reason for their downtime, and I'll reproduce the message below: -------------------------------- The radio-info.com servers are located in the path of Hurricane Frances. At the strong advising of our data center partner and in order to be sure that we are able to maintain accurate data, we have taken the unprecedented step of temporarily taking the site down. All data as of this writing has been archived in an off-site, secure location. Radio-Info.com will resume operation as soon as reasonably possible. Thanks so much for your understanding, The Radio-Info.com Team _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From billo@shoreham.net Sat Sep 4 09:12:37 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Sep 4 09:13:07 2004 Subject: Frances Foul Weather Friends Message-ID: <000001c49280$dbd2a1e0$0200a8c0@boneill> Just sitting here watching The Weather Channel (9:03 a.m. ET). Just as the meteorologist is starting his report, replete with 50 mph winds all around, NBC's Al Roker pops into the shot and holds onto the Weather Channel guy, both struggling to stay upright. Turned it into a very funny bit (lots of closeness entendre, etc. "Brian Williams never held me this close during Andrew.") The Wx Channel anchors noted that the broadcasting industry is a close bunch, "but that is as close as it gets." From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Sun Sep 5 00:18:19 2004 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Sun Sep 5 00:51:28 2004 Subject: Cape Cod Ratings In-Reply-To: <20040903175905.3758B12CCF@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20040903175905.3758B12CCF@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20040905001139.01fe6240@pop.gis.net> Arbitron last week reissued its spring 2004 numbers after discovering that two of the nearly 1,000 listeners it surveyed had ties to an unidentified local media organization. The ratings of 2 Boch Broadcasting stations were reduced. http://www.capecodonline.com/cctimes/arbitronreshuffles4.htm From tklaundry@juno.com Sun Sep 5 13:11:11 2004 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Sun Sep 5 13:13:52 2004 Subject: How big media shortchanged the public Message-ID: <20040905.101144.21843.540719@webmail21.nyc.untd.com> An article in this week's Phoenix by Camielle T. Taiara listing the 10 key stories that the press and broadcasters ignored. Makes for some very interesting reading. http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/other_stories/multi-page/documents/04097848.asp From steveord@bit-net.com Sun Sep 5 15:17:11 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Sep 5 15:17:15 2004 Subject: How big media shortchanged the public In-Reply-To: <20040905.101144.21843.540719@webmail21.nyc.untd.com> References: <20040905.101144.21843.540719@webmail21.nyc.untd.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040905151607.01b7dde0@pop3.bit-net.com> Dave Faneuf wrote: >An article in this week's Phoenix by Camielle T. Taiara listing the 10 key >stories that the press and broadcasters ignored. >Makes for some very interesting reading. Not exactly an objective article. But then did we really expect anything other that left-wing babble from the Phoenix? From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Sep 5 15:44:30 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Sep 5 15:45:20 2004 Subject: How big media shortchanged the public In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040905151607.01b7dde0@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <20040905.101144.21843.540719@webmail21.nyc.untd.com> <20040905.101144.21843.540719@webmail21.nyc.untd.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040905153734.02a1af58@pop.registeredsite.com> >Steve wrote-- > >Not exactly an objective article. But then did we really expect anything >other that left-wing babble from the Phoenix? Well, it's not a Phoenix article per se-- it comes originally from Project Censored, which operates out of Sonoma State College in California. And while some of what's in the Phoenix is certainly left-wing, I think it's dismissive and unfair to ignore the award-winning Phoenix media critic Dan Kennedy, who is considered a moderate rather than a left-winger, and is widely quoted even on right-wing sites. Also, not everything in the Phoenix is 'left-wing babble' just like not everything in the Wall Street Journal is right wing propaganda. Aaron Brown of CNN was right when he said on the air last week that we no longer listen to each other's points of view-- right wingers read their own sites (or watch Fox or listen to various right-wing radio talk shows) and left wingers read theirs (or watch PBS or listen to NPR, which, by the way, studies show is becoming less and less left-wing and moving more to the center), but few respectful exchanges of opinion occur anymore. Even shows that try to bring both sides together often deteriorate into shouting matches. It's sad. From tklaundry@juno.com Sun Sep 5 16:02:57 2004 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Sun Sep 5 16:04:06 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public Message-ID: <20040905.130301.1142.538212@webmail26.nyc.untd.com> Steve wrote: "Not exactly an objective article. But then did we really expect anything other that left-wing babble from the Phoenix"? I fail to see how developing a story about how media....all media...has ignored or short changed stories is "left-wing babble"...however in all honesty is it the reaction I expected ;-) dave From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Sep 5 16:39:13 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Sep 5 16:39:17 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public References: <20040905.130301.1142.538212@webmail26.nyc.untd.com> Message-ID: <001201c49388$67d64ef0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Faneuf" To: Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 4:02 PM Subject: How big media shortchange the public > I fail to see how developing a story about how media....all media...has ignored or short changed stories is "left-wing babble"...however in all honesty is it the reaction I expected ;-) The choice of the stories shows the bias of the author. Would an objective journlaist really decide that the influence of conservative groups on the choice of jusdicial nominees by a conservative President is really one of the ten most important under-reported stories? The idea that a conservative administration listens to the opinions of other conservatives reminds me of that line from Casablanca " I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!" -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From tklaundry@juno.com Sun Sep 5 17:18:31 2004 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Sun Sep 5 17:19:33 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public Message-ID: <20040905.141847.1142.538630@webmail26.nyc.untd.com> Dan Billings wrote: "Would an objective journlaist really decide that the influence of conservative groups on the choice of jusdicial nominees by a conservative President is really one of the ten most important under-reported stories"? Even if I gave you that one...and I don't because of the elimination of the role of the ABA in the selection process...there are still 8 other stories listed in the article that have been under reported...not only ignored by GOP-TV, but the 'LIBERAL' media as well. And remember, this is only a "top ten" list Dave From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Sep 5 17:31:55 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Sep 5 17:31:58 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public References: <20040905.141847.1142.538630@webmail26.nyc.untd.com> Message-ID: <002101c4938f$c460c860$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Faneuf" To: Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 5:18 PM Subject: How big media shortchange the public > Even if I gave you that one...and I don't because of the elimination of the role of the ABA in the selection process...there are still 8 other stories listed in the article that have been under reported...not only ignored by GOP-TV, but the 'LIBERAL' media as well. And remember, this is only a "top ten" list > Dave I'm not surprised by your reaction. Your point of view is clear from your posts here. Bringing up the ABA seals it -- the Democrats in the Senate have continued to have nominees reviewed by the ABA and almost all of the nominees that have been filibustered by the Democrats have received the ABA's highest rating. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From rac@gabrielmass.com Sun Sep 5 17:41:17 2004 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sun Sep 5 17:38:30 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public In-Reply-To: <20040905.130301.1142.538212@webmail26.nyc.untd.com> References: <20040905.130301.1142.538212@webmail26.nyc.untd.com> Message-ID: <413B87FD.9090005@gabrielmass.com> Dave Faneuf wrote: > Steve wrote: > "Not exactly an objective article. But then did we really expect anything > other that left-wing babble from the Phoenix"? > > > I fail to see how developing a story about how media....all media...has ignored or short changed stories is "left-wing babble"...however in all honesty is it the reaction I expected ;-) > dave Whether these stories have received the press attention they deserved is a matter of opinion. I've seen some coverage or heard discussions about most of them: * environmental complaints * effects of depleted-uranium weaponry * voting machines and the companies that make them * the Federalist Society (oooh, a scary bugbear of the Left) * wealth and income inequality That last one came up from time to time in political speeches -- remember some guy named Edwards? Whatever happened to him? Anyway, these topics turn up in call-in shows, on C-SPAN and NPR, and occasionally in ordinary news reports. They're not the absolute top stories, but they're not censored. They're not the obsessions of the Nation, unless you mean the left-wing magazine of that name. Here's the list of participants in "Project Censored": http://www.sfbg.com/38/49/cover_censored_judges.html And the list really does seem one-sided. It includes "progressives" such as Richard Barnet and Julianne Malveaux, and even such dim bulbs as Dan "Tom Tomorrow" Perkins and ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney. For proper editorial balance surely they should have included a few folks from newsmax.com and some FReepers to balance them out, but alas, they didn't. With such an unbalanced crew (in more ways than one), no wonder the list of supposedly neglected stories is just a roster of left-wingers' causes. If the organizers had put a bunch of hard-right folks on the panel, they'd be telling us that the media had failed to sufficiently investigate George Soros' money, Mr. Kerry's sealed military records, and the insidious links between 527s and the Dems. Well, there were a couple of stories on the list that I hadn't heard covered: * widow accuses Bush of knowing about 9/11 in advance and letting it happen for political gain But then I find it hard to take such kook material, such conspiracy-talk, seriously. Dave wrote: > I fail to see how developing a story about how media....all > media...has ignored or short changed stories is "left-wing > babble" If you say you fail to see it, I'll take you at your word. --RC From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Sep 5 17:53:14 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Sep 5 17:53:16 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public References: <20040905.130301.1142.538212@webmail26.nyc.untd.com> <413B87FD.9090005@gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <002a01c49392$be75dc80$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> How about over-covered stories? I have heard three different stories this summer on NPR about a Jamaican musician whose name, I think, is Beanyman or something like that. Apparently this guy has anti-gay lyrics in some of his songs. At least one appears to advocate killing homosexuals. He was scheduled to tour the U.S. this year and the gay advocacy groups, understandably, are upset about American companies sponsoring his tour. So maybe this is news but I never would have heard of this guy or his bigoted views if NPR hadn't covered him. But they found time to do at least three stories about him -- my guess as a result of press releases and calls from gay advocacy groups. I doubt press releases about anti-Christian lyrics would get as much attention at NPR. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sun Sep 5 18:37:52 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sun Sep 5 18:35:24 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public Message-ID: <200409051837.AA2611609740@mail.ttlc.net> "Daniel Billings" mused >How about over-covered stories? > >I have heard three different stories this summer on NPR about a >Jamaican musician whose name, I think, is Beanyman or something >like that. IIRC that would be Beenie Man. Cohort of Elephant Man & Bounty Killer - all advocates (in their lyrics )of killing gay people. Especially gay DJ's. Over-covered on NPR, perhaps. But I haven't heard a word about this on WBZ or WRKO. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Sep 5 18:45:10 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Sep 5 18:45:13 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public References: <200409051837.AA2611609740@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <003301c49399$ffd58840$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rogerkirk" To: "Daniel Billings" ; "BRI" Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 6:37 PM Subject: Re: How big media shortchange the public > IIRC that would be Beenie Man. Cohort of Elephant Man & Bounty > Killer - all advocates (in their lyrics )of killing gay people. Especially gay DJ's. > > Over-covered on NPR, perhaps. But I haven't heard a word about > this on WBZ or WRKO. How big is this guy in this country? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From tklaundry@juno.com Sun Sep 5 21:23:01 2004 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Sun Sep 5 21:22:16 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public Message-ID: <20040905.212302.-576081.0.tklaundry@juno.com> How big is this guy in this country? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine" I'm glad to see that some things just haven't changed since I've been away. One more time. The point of the story...Media is not doing it's job! All Media... Pick on Bush and the Republicans....yep, guess what, they're in power... Don't wanna hear about things going on in other parts of the world....(self censored comment)... I read from the tone of the posts that everyone is extremely pleased with the coverage of issues and that in your opinion, things coming out of newsrooms have never been better or more accurate. I'm happy for you. ;-) "Over and out". (actually an incorrect statement since "over" means you are waiting for something to respond to and "out" means you've ended comms. Dave From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Sep 5 21:31:14 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Sep 5 21:31:18 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public References: <20040905.212302.-576081.0.tklaundry@juno.com> Message-ID: <004601c493b1$330708d0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Faneuf" To: Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 9:23 PM Subject: Re: How big media shortchange the public > One more time. The point of the story...Media is not doing it's job! No, the point of the story was that the media is not doing its job investigating those evil Republicans. As another poster suggested, if they had a panel that was not made up of only people with a leftist slant, the list of stories would have been different. Dave -- I hope your attitude about those with different views is not representative of your colleagues, but I am afraid it probably is. That might explain why the market share of the traditional news outlets is less every year. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From tklaundry@juno.com Sun Sep 5 21:44:39 2004 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Sun Sep 5 21:42:50 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public Message-ID: <20040905.214440.-576081.4.tklaundry@juno.com> On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 21:31:14 -0400 "Daniel Billings" writes: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Faneuf" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 9:23 PM > Subject: Re: How big media shortchange the public > > > > One more time. The point of the story...Media is not doing it's > job! > > No, the point of the story was that the media is not doing its job > investigating those evil Republicans. As I already said...if that's what you believe, I'm happy for you in your world, everything must be very nice there, as for me? Well I'd like to know what is going on in Washington and elsewhere that effects my less than perfect world. dave From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Sep 5 22:29:30 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Sep 5 22:30:20 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public In-Reply-To: <004601c493b1$330708d0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <20040905.212302.-576081.0.tklaundry@juno.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040905222049.02a1c9e0@pop.registeredsite.com> I am not convinced it's a matter of right wing media or left wing media. Frankly, I think there is news on both sides that is overlooked or under-reported, and as a citizen, I just wanna be informed. I want both sides of the issues. Consider this: when I was in college, back in the Viet Nam era, I started off like Kerry (and don't read anything into this-- this isn't about politics; it's about historical fact) and supported the war. But also like Kerry, I became very disillusioned-- not for the reasons he did, but because friends of mine were dying and yet the government (which back then was run by President Johnson, a Democrat) was lying to us about it-- they said we were winning, but that wasn't true, as Walter Cronkite (also originally for it, but later against it) found out first-hand. I wanted the media to tell the truth instead of just repeating what the people in power said. It wasn't about political parties-- it was about why were so many people dying if we were winning the war? These days, people on both sides of the political aisle wanna know what's really going on in Iraq-- and why we are there at all is still a bone of contention. Fox cheerleads too much-- they oughta do more investigative reporting, and this president and his administration is as secretive as Nixon and Johnson were. Meanwhile, CNN tries so hard not to offend that it doesn't clarify the issues much at all. And who knows what NPR is up to lately? Bottom line-- it ain't about evil Republicans or nasty Democrats-- that's an oversimplification. It's about being informed and not being fed a bunch of partisan spin that hides the real issues. From tklaundry@juno.com Sun Sep 5 23:09:59 2004 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Sun Sep 5 23:08:57 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public Message-ID: <20040905.230959.-713301.2.tklaundry@juno.com> Donna Wrote re Vietnam: "I wanted the media to tell the truth instead of just repeating what the people in power said". I think today it goes beyond media "telling the truth". There are a number of differences in media today than as it was when you and I got into the biz, to name a few; 1. There are fewer of "us" today than back then. With fewer reporters more and more items get lost and unreported. 2. Consolidation has had a major impact on the quality of news coverage. There are fewer and fewer outlets where anything other than "breaking news" can be reported. Fewer still where it is allowed to be reported. 3. When consolidation first took hold, profit was the motive. Nothing wrong with that, but once the profit genie has been satisfied, power is the next step. I believe we are looking at the "power" genie right now. I think today's media tells the truth "as they see it", but like the computer geeks that we all know used to say. GIGO. My inital post that brought to light the Boston Phoenix article, written by Camille T Taiara of The San Francisco Bay Guardian based on a report by Project Censored was not to spark a political debate, (as it did including some sharp words off list) it was to point out that the slippery slope that I predicted years ago has arrived. Dave From rac@gabrielmass.com Mon Sep 6 00:23:14 2004 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Mon Sep 6 00:20:28 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public In-Reply-To: <20040905.230959.-713301.2.tklaundry@juno.com> References: <20040905.230959.-713301.2.tklaundry@juno.com> Message-ID: <413BE632.2050608@gabrielmass.com> To bring this back to broadcasting (albeit with pictures and via cable): C-SPAN 2 presented a discussion Sunday between journalists Amy Goodman (Pacifica Radio) and John Fund (WSJ), held as part of an "In Depth" presentation at New York's legendary Strand Book Store. Among other topics, it touched on the question of how much responsibility the news media have to present viewpoints held by smaller factions in society. The four hours from the Strand is scheduled to re-air early Monday from midnight to 4 am. --RC From markwats@comcast.net Mon Sep 6 10:52:03 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon Sep 6 10:52:08 2004 Subject: WODS And The History Of Rock & Roll Message-ID: <006601c49421$12d38460$6f918318@Mark> Sunday while driving home from a couple of days in the Lake Champlain area, I tuned in WODS (103.3 Boston) to catch some of "The History Of Rock & Roll" around 12:30, on I-89 just entering Concord NH. Reception was OK, but then WODS began dogfighting with and was eventually overtaken by a signal playing classical music. WODS became dominanat once again about a 1/2 mile before the Hooksett Rest Area/ State Liquor Store. Curious as to who the classical station on 103.3 was. While on the subject of WODS, two other observations: 1. Great to hear "The History Of Rock & Roll" again, since I was away Friday night, Saturday and part of Sunday, does anyone know if they ran "History" overnights Friday & Saturday night? I know last night Barry Scott's "Lost 45's" aired at 7PM. 2. Just after Midnight I tuned in to WODS and heard "Hall Of Fame Coast To Coast" with Tom Kent, which is a satellite delivered oldies show that WWBB (101.5 Providence) runs in overnights. Just wondering if WODS is going the same route and cut staff in the process? Maurice Wilkey was doing weekday overnights and Scott Roberts weekend overnights. Mark Watson From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Sep 6 11:11:40 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Sep 6 11:09:13 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public Message-ID: <200409061111.AA1886454094@mail.ttlc.net> Dan Billings asked (about Beenie Man): > >How big is this guy in this country? Apparently big enough to warrant a 2-page article in today's NY Times Online. From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Sep 6 11:42:52 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Mon Sep 6 11:42:55 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public References: <200409061111.AA1886454094@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <002b01c49428$2bbe48f0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rogerkirk" To: "Daniel Billings" ; "BRI" Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: Re: How big media shortchange the public > Apparently big enough to warrant a 2-page article in > today's NY Times Online. I read the story and it was almost identical to the NPR stories. It focused on the controversy and did not say much about how well known the guy was before this controversy. The story does suggest that the lyrics may be intended to result in controversy and publicity. If so, it worked. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From mhiggs@gmail.com Wed Sep 1 11:57:48 2004 From: mhiggs@gmail.com (Matt Higgs) Date: Mon Sep 6 14:45:46 2004 Subject: good DX Tue. afternoon In-Reply-To: <20040901072217.475F63962@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20040901072217.475F63962@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: On a related note, yesterday afternoon I caught KGAN-TV of Cedar Rapids, IA was on WLBZ Ch 2, Bangor, ME. Matt Higgs On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 03:22:17 -0400 (EDT), Bob Nelson wrote: > > Anyone notice some interesting DX Tue. afternoon (with humid air > moving away)? While on Rt 128 between Peabody and Reading I picked up: > > --KSUI 91.7 Cedar Rapids, IA (NPR)--WMWM off air > --CBSM 89.5 Sault Ste. Marie, ON-- CBC ("Sudbury" local news; > mentions of "Provincial Police" and "Provincial Park" and "coming > up on 'The World At Six'..." > --French language stuff on 88.1 (no sign of WMBR--their site says they're temp. off air) Maybe CBON 88.1 Sault Ste. Marie? > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com > From pjwiggs275@msn.com Thu Sep 2 14:23:03 2004 From: pjwiggs275@msn.com (Peter Wiggins) Date: Mon Sep 6 14:45:47 2004 Subject: Channel 6 history in Providence/New Bedford Message-ID: Here is some interesting info for WLNE-TV Channel 6 (The ABC affiliate in Providence) The station went on the air New Years Day, 1963 as WTEV Channel 6 in New Bedford, it was an ABC affiliate, Channel 6 would remain an ABC affiliate until June 20,1977 when Channel 6 became a CBS affiliate and WPRI 12 an ABC affiliate, Then somewhere in the mid-80's I think Channel 6 started the Providence studio on Orms Street along with the New Bedford studio which was on 430 County Street. It would remain a CBS affliate until September 10,1995 when it switched back to ABC and WPRI back to CBS. Local Programming on Channel 6 had Duckpin Bowling Dialing for Dollars with George Allen Providence College Basketball Here is something unusual on a TV Station for Channel 6, The Channel 6 Job Search that ran in the 1980's in Providence, _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Mon Sep 6 13:04:32 2004 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Mon Sep 6 14:45:47 2004 Subject: Cape Cod Ratings References: <20040903175905.3758B12CCF@mprdmxin.myway.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040905001139.01fe6240@pop.gis.net> Message-ID: <006101c49433$94368360$3761a545@DG07P241> When Ernie Boch Sr. started buying radio stations here, he said that he would bury the competition. I guess the burial isn't quick enough for Ernie Jr. Paul Sandwich, Cape Cod ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Bello" To: Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 12:18 AM Subject: Cape Cod Ratings > > Arbitron last week reissued its spring 2004 numbers after discovering that > two of the > nearly 1,000 listeners it surveyed had ties to an unidentified local media > organization. > The ratings of 2 Boch Broadcasting stations were reduced. > > http://www.capecodonline.com/cctimes/arbitronreshuffles4.htm > > > From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Sep 6 15:45:52 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Sep 6 15:43:23 2004 Subject: How big media shortchange the public Message-ID: <200409061545.AA1997275470@mail.ttlc.net> >I read the story and it [snip] did not say much about how well known >the guy was before this controversy. Billboard Magazine reported on 8/14: "Dude," the lead single from Beenie Man's current "Back to Basics" album, has become one of his biggest hits?peaking at No. 16 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks chart. From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Sep 6 16:17:53 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Sep 6 16:15:23 2004 Subject: WBZ Sports Question Message-ID: <200409061617.AA1129775412@mail.ttlc.net> Anybody out there (poster/lurker) knowledgeable enough about the inner working of WBZ-AM to explain this? On occasion, Walt Perkins (weekend warrior at BZ), while delivering the sports, will slow his delivery, stop in mid-sentence and then slowly pick up speed and continue delivery of the sports. It's as if somebody is talking to him in his headset and distracting him badly. I have noticed this on several occasions - especially on remote broadcasts (as was today's) A few weekends ago (when Muqtada Al Sadr was on a tear and one of the newspeople called him "MOKE-tuh EL sa-DORE") it seemed as if almost everyone at BZ that weekend was having the same problem. Are the BZ on-air personalities distracted by headset chatter? From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Sep 6 16:53:33 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon Sep 6 16:54:23 2004 Subject: WBZ Sports Question In-Reply-To: <200409061617.AA1129775412@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040906165227.02a73c48@pop.registeredsite.com> At 04:17 PM 9/6/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Anybody out there (poster/lurker) knowledgeable enough about the inner >working of WBZ-AM to explain this? > >On occasion, Walt Perkins (weekend warrior at BZ), while delivering the >sports, will slow his delivery, stop in mid-sentence and then slowly pick >up speed and continue delivery of the sports. I have wondered this too-- Walt seems to have trouble reading copy. I can only guess he may need glasses for reading and not wanna get them... some guys in their 40s think that wearing glasses makes them look old. From billo@shoreham.net Mon Sep 6 17:56:04 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Sep 6 17:57:11 2004 Subject: WBZ Sports Question In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040906165227.02a73c48@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <000201c4945c$5abb1a50$0200a8c0@boneill> Donna writes: > I have wondered this too-- Walt seems to have trouble reading > copy. I can > only guess he may need glasses for reading and not wanna get > them... some > guys in their 40s think that wearing glasses makes them look old. So, I got laser eye surgery this year. I can see 20/15...but need goofy dime-store specs for reading this screen! Message-ID: <000401c4945d$679e1820$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Donna wrote: >>(snip)... some guys in their 40s think that wearing glasses makes them look old. << Hey, we do not think th.... Er, THEY do not think that wearing glasses... ;-) Actually, if it's that noticeable on the air to others (irt others on-air at BZ), is it a return to delay-from-live? On a related note, I noticed the other day that 105.7 WROR was on a delay, only as I'd called the studio to say "howdy." it was only noticeable as I was hearing both the studio feed (over the phone) and the over-the-air feed on the car's radio. Even more interesting was that the on-air folks (at that time) had no idea they were on delay. - - Chuck (leaving the remaining glasses references to Bill O) Igo From billo@shoreham.net Mon Sep 6 18:26:15 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Sep 6 18:26:56 2004 Subject: WBZ Sports Question In-Reply-To: <000401c4945d$679e1820$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <000301c49460$8d243c70$0200a8c0@boneill> > - - Chuck (leaving the remaining glasses references to Bill O) Igo 1968 was a tough year. Brown horn-rimmed Joe Friday types. Just like everyone else's. Fortunately, my specs mysteriously vanished and I mysteriously gravitated closer to the blackboard. Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Sep 6 18:35:09 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Mon Sep 6 18:35:12 2004 Subject: WBZ Sports Question References: <000301c49460$8d243c70$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <005301c49461$c4190890$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "'Chuck Igo'" ; "'Donna Halper'" Cc: "'(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest'" Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 6:26 PM Subject: RE: WBZ Sports Question > 1968 was a tough year. 1968 was a good year for me. I was born! -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Sep 6 18:50:50 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Sep 6 18:48:20 2004 Subject: WBZ Expanded Traffic & more Message-ID: <200409061850.AA2074476878@mail.ttlc.net> A follow-up note on BZ's Expanded Traffic for Labor Day Weekend: I've listened carefully this weekend. No change in announcer lead-in, no change in promos, no change in length/content of traffic reports. Hampton & York tolls added as they are every weekend during the summer. In short - nothing discernibly different. Go figure. Note: The "Monday" promo that runs every weekend only had Gary & Deb. Gil Santos was conspicuously absent with LaPierre touting a Monday Sports Wrap-Up and no mention of Gil. Long Weekend, Gil? I wonder: Is Mr. LaPierre doing his morning shift from FL? If not, why not? First-hand reporting would be Marvelous! And Risky! Back to our regularly scheduled programming. From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Sep 6 18:54:37 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Mon Sep 6 18:54:41 2004 Subject: WBZ Expanded Traffic & more References: <200409061850.AA2074476878@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <006001c49464$7c9b27c0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rogerkirk" To: "BRI" Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 6:50 PM Subject: Re: WBZ Expanded Traffic & more >Gil Santos was conspicuously absent with LaPierre touting a Monday Sports Wrap-Up and no mention of Gil. Long Weekend, Gil? The Pats open up on Thursday so Gil might be taking some time off to get ready. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From dwcole@comcast.net Mon Sep 6 19:01:49 2004 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Mon Sep 6 19:01:49 2004 Subject: WBZ Sports Question References: <000301c49460$8d243c70$0200a8c0@boneill> <005301c49461$c4190890$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <001301c49465$7e2ea390$61f29318@HP310n> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" > >> 1968 was a tough year. > > 1968 was a good year for me. I was born! > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine Lawyers are born? Dan C. (who has to work with a divorce lawyer every morning on the air) :) From mlaurence@mindspring.com Mon Sep 6 20:22:43 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Mon Sep 6 20:22:37 2004 Subject: WBZ Sports Question In-Reply-To: <000401c4945d$679e1820$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <08E89058-0064-11D9-BCCE-000393D13824@mindspring.com> On Monday, September 6, 2004, at 06:03 PM, Chuck Igo wrote: > On a related note, I noticed the other day that 105.7 WROR was on a > delay, only as I'd called the studio to say "howdy." it was only > noticeable as I was hearing both the studio feed (over the phone) and > the over-the-air feed on the car's radio. Even more interesting was > that the on-air folks (at that time) had no idea they were on delay. That's true for all the Greater Media stations. The delay of 7-10 seconds is for the processing of the HD radio signal. The studio monitors and the monitors in the building are in real time, so it's easy to forget about the delay unless you bring a radio into the building or hear the broadcast over a phone. Mark From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Sep 6 22:11:54 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Sep 6 22:11:58 2004 Subject: WODS And The History Of Rock & Roll In-Reply-To: <006601c49421$12d38460$6f918318@Mark> References: <006601c49421$12d38460$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <200409070211.i872Bsk8092100@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > before the Hooksett Rest Area/ State Liquor Store. Curious as to who the > classical station on 103.3 was. CBOQ Ottawa, most likely, with a bit of TrE to push it over the Green Mountains. -GAWollman From fox893@yahoo.com Tue Sep 7 06:03:07 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Tue Sep 7 06:03:24 2004 Subject: WBZ Sports Question In-Reply-To: <000401c4945d$679e1820$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040907100307.36903.qmail@web61107.mail.yahoo.com> Chuck, could this have been because you were on a cellphone? When I call work and am put on hold I always notice a delay(on hold versus car radio). Cells usually have a delay of some sort. > On a related note, I noticed the other day that > 105.7 WROR was on a > delay, only as I'd called the studio to say "howdy." > it was only > noticeable as I was hearing both the studio feed > (over the phone) and > the over-the-air feed on the car's radio. Even > more interesting was > that the on-air folks (at that time) had no idea > they were on delay. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From Kaimbridge@programmer.net Wed Sep 8 10:30:49 2004 From: Kaimbridge@programmer.net (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Wed Sep 8 10:31:10 2004 Subject: "Buzzing" Around 95.7 & 101.1: IBOC? Message-ID: <413F1799.E817B9A8@Programmer.Net> I first noticed it a fair while back at home (Beverly) on 95.7, but presumed it was just locally (house/neighborhood) generated electronic interference. Then over the weekend I brought my Sony WalkMan home from work and, on the way home, scanned the dials and noted the same interference in Boston and thoughout the Commuter Rail ride home, wherever WZID (95.7) and WGIR (101.1) Manchester NH came in. Its not the typical high-pitched buzz that the other, local FM IBOCs use, but rather a low frequency buzz, that's usually caused by power line interference. Anyone up in the Merrimack Valley/Southern NH area notice it? ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From Kaimbridge@programmer.net Wed Sep 8 10:31:06 2004 From: Kaimbridge@programmer.net (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Wed Sep 8 10:31:12 2004 Subject: WWZN Finding God? Message-ID: <413F17AA.A1EADD6D@Programmer.Net> First noted this morning at 3:20am, 1.510 WWZN was running some Bible Thumper, but was back to birdfeed sports by 5:00am. Are they that desperate for money or is this the insidious beginning of a format change--or could it have been just a satellite feed goof-up? ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Sep 8 12:40:34 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Sep 8 12:40:50 2004 Subject: WWZN Finding God? References: <413F17AA.A1EADD6D@Programmer.Net> Message-ID: <002001c495c2$93a6e940$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I noticed it too. It's been running for at least a week--from 3:00 to 4:00 AM, as far as I can tell. The guy is a real, old-fashioned fire-and-brimstone preacher with an accent that sounds like West Virginia to me--but what do I know? ----- Original Message ----- From: Kaimbridge M. GoldChild To: B-R-I Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:31 AM Subject: WWZN Finding God? > First noted this morning at 3:20am, 1.510 WWZN was running some Bible > Thumper, but was back to birdfeed sports by 5:00am. > Are they that desperate for money or is this the insidious beginning > of a format change--or could it have been just a satellite feed > goof-up? > > ~Kaimbridge~ > > ----- > Wanted-Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): > http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html > ---------- > Digitology-The Grand Theory Of The Universe: > http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html > > ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From nschaffer@worcestermag.com Wed Sep 8 14:23:37 2004 From: nschaffer@worcestermag.com (Noah Schaffer) Date: Wed Sep 8 14:19:47 2004 Subject: WCRN goes "true oldies" Message-ID: http://worcestermag.com/current/city_desk.shtml#oldies This link should work for about 24 hours. From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Sep 8 14:42:41 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Sep 8 14:42:44 2004 Subject: Sending to this list from AOL Message-ID: <200409081842.i88Igfhn010612@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> If you've had trouble sending mail to this list and you're an AOL user, you should upgrade to AOL 9 and follow the instructions at . This page also includes instructions for many other popular PC mail clients. -GAWollman From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Wed Sep 8 15:07:46 2004 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Wed Sep 8 15:07:49 2004 Subject: WEEI References: Message-ID: <020501c495d7$202b4370$3761a545@DG07P241> WEEI's hosts are now adding something like "and don't forget, we're at 103.7 FM now". I don't recall what station had that frequency and haven't seen anything written about the purchase. Any scoop? Paul/Cape Cod From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Sep 8 15:57:09 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed Sep 8 15:57:11 2004 Subject: WEEI In-Reply-To: <020501c495d7$202b4370$3761a545@DG07P241> Message-ID: <002c01c495de$0a9ac510$6400a8c0@AMD> They've been on 103.7 (formerly WWRX-FM) now WEEI-FM Westerly, RI since April. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Paul B. Currier Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 3:08 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re:WEEI WEEI's hosts are now adding something like "and don't forget, we're at 103.7 FM now". I don't recall what station had that frequency and haven't seen anything written about the purchase. Any scoop? Paul/Cape Cod From sid@wrko.com Wed Sep 8 15:51:05 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed Sep 8 16:03:44 2004 Subject: WEEI Message-ID: >>WEEI's hosts are now adding something like "and don't forget, we're at 103.7 FM now". I don't recall what station had that frequency and haven't seen anything written about the purchase. Any scoop?<< Hardly a scoop, four months after the fact. We bought WWRX/Westerly RI...in May. It's now WEEI-FM. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Sep 9 00:09:23 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Sep 9 00:08:50 2004 Subject: Sending to this list from AOL In-Reply-To: <200409081842.i88Igfhn010612@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <413F9F33.29509.6DA2CC@localhost> On 8 Sep 2004 at 14:42, Garrett Wollman wrote: > If you've had trouble sending mail to this list and you're an AOL > user, you should upgrade to AOL 9 and follow the instructions at > . This page also includes > instructions for many other popular PC mail clients. Does that mean that Bob Bittner will be able to post here again? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Thu Sep 9 11:39:20 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Sep 9 11:39:30 2004 Subject: WWZN Finding God? Message-ID: <20040909153920.047C912D70@mprdmxin.myway.com> I heard it on my way home from work. He's Brother R.G. Stair, whose Overcomer Ministries have been on SW (and broadcast too, I guess) for years. Brother Stair was mentioned frequently on Glenn Hauser's "World of Radio". _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Thu Sep 9 19:27:44 2004 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Thu Sep 9 19:27:49 2004 Subject: WCRN goes "true oldies" References: Message-ID: <027b01c496c4$9c3ee320$3761a545@DG07P241> They're doing some talk also - Caught a money show after 11 this morning. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noah Schaffer" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:23 PM Subject: WCRN goes "true oldies" > > > > > http://worcestermag.com/current/city_desk.shtml#oldies > > This link should work for about 24 hours. > > From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Sep 9 21:42:25 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Sep 9 21:42:30 2004 Subject: WCRN goes "true oldies" In-Reply-To: <027b01c496c4$9c3ee320$3761a545@DG07P241> References: <027b01c496c4$9c3ee320$3761a545@DG07P241> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040909214036.01afc700@pop3.bit-net.com> Paul B. Currier wrote: >They're doing some talk also - Caught a money show after 11 this morning. Leftover from the old format maybe? Probably brokered & they don't want to lose the income (or else the contract for the show still has some time to run). From sven@gordsven.com Thu Sep 9 22:03:54 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu Sep 9 22:04:02 2004 Subject: WCRN goes "true oldies" In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040909214036.01afc700@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Leftover from the old format maybe? Probably brokered & they don't want to > lose the income (or else the contract for the show still has some time to run). According to the article that was linked, the station is keeping the money show as part of its "local presence". -- steph From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Sep 9 22:14:48 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu Sep 9 22:15:49 2004 Subject: WCRN goes "true oldies" References: <027b01c496c4$9c3ee320$3761a545@DG07P241> <6.0.3.0.0.20040909214036.01afc700@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <001301c496dc$0fea4780$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Exactly; the 9:00 to 12:00 or 12:30 period M-F is brokered and it will stay. There's also a lot of brokered time on weekends--including Pat Whitley's Restaurant Show on Sundays. The brokered time has got to be carrying the station. I can't believe that the spot load even pays the power bill, much less anybody's salary. I wonder what the 30-sec rate is according to the rate card and just how deeply discounted the typical :30 is. According to the article in Worcester Magazine, the station had a good book (a 3.2) when it flipped from brokered religion to Swing, but the ratings steadily declined to a zero share. It's very unclear to me that a mix of brokered financial talk, infomercials, and rock and roll oldies can fix the problem. The station just doesn't sound good. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: SteveOrdinetz To: Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:42 PM Subject: Re: WCRN goes "true oldies" > Paul B. Currier wrote: > >They're doing some talk also - Caught a money show after 11 this morning. > > > Leftover from the old format maybe? Probably brokered & they don't want to > lose the income (or else the contract for the show still has some time to run). > > From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Sep 10 01:23:42 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Sep 10 01:24:54 2004 Subject: Herald: WEEI-FM (sic) Scores Big in Ratings Message-ID: <20040910052342.A30543971@mprdmxin.myway.com> Posted on: 09/10/04 01:21 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://theedge.bostonherald.com/tvNews/view.bg?articleid=43584 The Herald's Dean Johnson reports that WEEI is doing well in the ratings, what with the Sox and Pats talk. (note: the virus affecting the Globe has spread to the Herald: at least on-line the article's headline refers to the station as WEEI-FM (sic) --yet there is no mention of the RI sister station. "On the local front, a sports talk station is the reigning powerhouse on the local dial. WEEI-AM (850) has the city's best numbers in the best demographics." (Well, at least the article itself gets it right...) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Sep 10 07:27:03 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Sep 10 07:27:05 2004 Subject: WCRN goes "true oldies" In-Reply-To: <001301c496dc$0fea4780$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <027b01c496c4$9c3ee320$3761a545@DG07P241> <6.0.3.0.0.20040909214036.01afc700@pop3.bit-net.com> <001301c496dc$0fea4780$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040910072414.01b04130@pop3.bit-net.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: >It's very unclear to me that a mix of brokered >financial talk, infomercials, and rock and roll oldies can fix the problem. >The station just doesn't sound good. Alas, that's a problem faced by many small (and not so small) market AMs. The stuff that pays the bills isn't anything that stands a chance of attracting much of an audience. I didn't know Pat Whitley's syndicated restaurant show was still around. I recall it being pretty unlistenable back in the 90s. From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Sep 10 11:40:43 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Sep 10 11:40:54 2004 Subject: '89 article on Jerry Williams, B. Anderson, H. Carr Message-ID: <20040910154043.BCD1C39EB@mprdmxin.myway.com> "Hello everybody, Peabody here. We're getting ready to take a trip in the Wayback machine to 1989. Oh, here's my boy, Sherman." "What are we visiting in 1989? Gosh, that's before I was even born." "We're going back to a Boston Globe article, from the Jerry Williams tribute site, about the Governors of Massachusetts." "You mean Romney? Swift? Cellucci?" "No, my dear boy, I mean Anderson, Williams, and Carr!" They're out there. http://www.jerrywilliams.org/articles/governors.htm _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Sep 10 13:45:36 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri Sep 10 13:31:52 2004 Subject: WODS And The History Of Rock & Roll In-Reply-To: <006601c49421$12d38460$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: On 9/6/04 10:52 AM, "Mark Watson" wrote: > 2. Just after Midnight I tuned in to WODS and heard "Hall Of Fame Coast To > Coast" with Tom Kent, which is a satellite delivered oldies show that WWBB > (101.5 Providence) runs in overnights. Just wondering if WODS is going the > same route and cut staff in the process? Maurice Wilkey was doing weekday > overnights and Scott Roberts weekend overnights. WODS has been running this show for a number of months now, only in a two hour slot Sunday nights between the end of Barry Scott's "Lost 45's" at 11 PM and the beginning of Wilkey's regular weeknight overnight shift beginning at 1 AM. They used to have various fill-in DJ's come in to do this little two-hour slot, but it appears that they decided instead to fill it with a satellite fed show. Since I'm still hearing Wilkie doing 1:00-5:30 AM Monday through Friday and Roberts doing the Friday and Saturday overnights, I'm guessing that they're only using the satellite show to fill the two hour gap between the end of the "Lost 45's" Sunday night specialty show, and resuming of their regular weeknight schedule with Wilkie at 1:00 AM Mondays. Eli Polonsky From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sat Sep 11 00:02:50 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sat Sep 11 00:00:17 2004 Subject: Music Sched & Rotation Software Message-ID: <200409110002.AA2691301688@mail.ttlc.net> About.Com's radio guide Corey Dietz has an article about a free Music Scheduling & Rotation Program called ProTrak. Has anybody on this list ever used it? Link to article: http://radio.about.com/od/helpersoftwareapps/a/aa090504a.htm From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Sep 11 01:59:29 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Sep 11 02:00:31 2004 Subject: Fw: more info on Digital Broadcasting firsts.... Message-ID: <004001c497c4$8782d8a0$1404fea9@xyz> A few weeks back there was a discussion of a "Boston first" in regards to digital broadcasting. Someone who has trouble posting to the list sent this to me to be forwarded about WGBH-FM's involvment. JP -----Original Message----- Subject: more info Here is some more info, which you can pass along. I cannot post to that list. The very first digital broadcast of a live concert from a concert hall to WGBH Radio was in March 1985, to celebrate the 300th birthday of J S Bach. It was also the first digital broadcast from behind the iron curtain. It originated from Leipzig (East) Germany and was encoded using Sony PCM technology onto a video land line to West Germany. Then the signal stayed digitally encoded and went up to a satellite for reception by the BBC and WGBH where it was decoded to analog. An interesting story is that inspite of political differences and language barriers, everything went smoothly, except for the last mile - the part of the signal path from downtown Boston to WGBH...which was fortunately completed literally in the last minute before air! Anita McFadden travelled alone to East Germany and actually brought the digital encoding equipment in her luggage. It was not known if she would get it thru customs, until she arrived there and saw what happened. For the techies, Sony PCM had a competitor in dbx's digital encoding system that WGBH used in later broadcasts including the Salzburg Festival mentioned. The dbx 700 also became the system used on WGBH Radio's digital studio to transmitter link. From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Sep 11 03:10:38 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Sep 11 03:10:47 2004 Subject: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) Message-ID: <20040911071038.6ADA13987@mprdmxin.myway.com> http://theedge.bostonherald.com/tvNews/view.bg?articleid=43752 The Herald reports that according to sources, Air America will be running its programming soon on Framingham's WKOX (1200) and Everett's WXKS (1430) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sat Sep 11 11:18:06 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sat Sep 11 11:18:12 2004 Subject: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) References: <20040911071038.6ADA13987@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <007f01c49812$8a5adb60$6600a8c0@brianhome> > http://theedge.bostonherald.com/tvNews/view.bg?articleid=43752 > > The Herald reports that according to sources, Air America will > be running its programming soon on Framingham's WKOX (1200) > and Everett's WXKS (1430) > Well, there, two major powerhouses. I hope that the folks at WRKO and WTKK are filling out their resumes. When these two blowtorches, er, cigarette lighters kick on, both of their listeners will be glued. Was 1150 unavailable? Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 75 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5626 USA Sales: (800)231-8849/Sales Fax (800)329-2775 Bus Ofc +1-978-538-7575/Business Ofc Fax +1-978-538-7550 www.cssinc.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Sat Sep 11 13:10:53 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sat Sep 11 12:57:14 2004 Subject: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) In-Reply-To: <007f01c49812$8a5adb60$6600a8c0@brianhome> Message-ID: >> http://theedge.bostonherald.com/tvNews/view.bg?articleid=43752 >> >> The Herald reports that according to sources, Air America will >> be running its programming soon on Framingham's WKOX (1200) >> and Everett's WXKS (1430) >> > Well, there, two major powerhouses. I hope that the folks at WRKO and WTKK > are filling out their resumes. When these two blowtorches, er, cigarette > lighters kick on, both of their listeners will be glued. Was 1150 > unavailable? Well, though neither of those have the "big" sound of a 50,000 watt boomer, a simulcast would give them pretty good daytime coverage of greater Boston. WXKS's daytime signal covers within all of 128 pretty well, and WKOX daytime gets all the west suburbs and metro-west out to Worcester. Nighttime would be more spotty, WXKS would still get the immediate metro-north Boston towns, downtown Boston, the immediate north shore, and a bit of the tip of the coastal south shore, but doesn't really go inland west or south of Cambridge worth anything at night. West of 495 would lose WKOX at night, but they'll still get Boston's metro-west suburbs with a fair to middling signal, and they're weak but still listenable in areas just west of Boston that get very little of WXKS-AM at night , such as Brighton, Brookline, Newton... Eli From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Sep 11 14:17:26 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Sep 11 14:17:38 2004 Subject: "Barnraising" For Portsmouth, NH LPFM Message-ID: <20040911181726.491073384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Prometheus Radio, an advocacy group for low power FM's, is having what they call a "barnraising" for the low-power FM assigned to Portsmouth, NH, WSCA-LP, 106.1. It's happening this weekend; read all about it at: http://www.prometheusradio.org -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Sep 11 14:50:19 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Sep 11 14:50:47 2004 Subject: Fw: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) Message-ID: <001901c49830$38dbd640$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Oops. I meant this for the list as well as for Eli. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Strassberg To: Eli Polonsky Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:31 PM Subject: Re: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) > I dunno how well WKOX comes in in Brighton at night. Portions of Newton > (Newton Upper Falls, Newton Lower Falls, Auburndale) should do OK, though. > Where I live (Arlington Heights--on the Lexington line) WKOX delivers about > 1 mV/m nighttime. The once clear 1200 is SO noisy in New England at night > that 1 mV/m is useless on the majority of nights. WKOX's NIF (nighttime > interference-free signal) must be in the neighborhood of 25 mV/m and might > be even greater. WXKS (AM) is also useless here at night, though it is > usually listenable in East Arlington. > > If CCU were willing to give up tilting at windmills, it might be able to put > WKOX on the air at night from the two existing WUNR towers in Oak Hill. > Since no tower construction would be required, such operation should not > require approval from the Newton aldermen. By my calculations, WKOX ought to > be able to run at least 3 kW nights from the existing WUNR towers (maybe > closer to 5 kW) because the azimuth of the array is rotated 17 degrees > clockwise with respect to that of WKOX's array in Framingham. The spacing > between the towers in the two arrays is almost identical, so the pattern > shape could also be almost identical. Thus, co-channel stations to the west > (CKGO, WTLA) would be deeper in the null of the Oak Hill pattern than they > are in the null of the Mt Wayte pattern. OTOH, the Mt Wayte towers are > taller, so it's possible that, with respect to high-angle skywave, some of > the loss in field strength to the west would be cancelled out because WUNR's > electrically shorter towers (154 degrees at 1200 vs 214 degrees at 1200 for > the Mt Wayte pair) might produce greater skywave radiation at elevation > angles that are critical to stations approximately 300 miles away. However, > towers taller than 180 degrees (like those at Mt Wayte) produce a vertical > radiation pattern with a high-angle lobe, so it is not a foregone conclusion > that this would be the case. Someone with the proper software would have to > make that determination. The other potential problem is that WKOX's 3-kW (or > so) night signal from Oak Hill might not be interference free over 80% of > Newton, which is geographically quite large, so an FCC waiver of the COL > coverage requirements could be required. I believe that area near Newton > Corner would present the greatest problem. > > WKOX would have two choices for days: either move the daytime operation to > Oak Hill, where 50 kW DA-D from WUNR's existing towers is a definite > possibility--again with no permission required from the Newton aldermen. Or > increase to 50 kW DA-D from Mt Wayte, which should be sufficient to deliver > a 5 mV/m daytime signal to all of Newton. A couple of years ago, WKOX had an > application on file for such a modification to its daytime operation. The > first of these options would give WKOX just about as good a signal in > downtown Boston as it would have gotten from the five-tower array it had > proposed to share with WUNR and WRCA. The night signal in Boston would > clearly not be wonderful, but the combination of the relocated WKOX and WXKS > (AM) would cover the market reasonably well at night. This arrangement would > allow either the move of the brokered ethnic programming from WKOX to WXKS > during the daytime or would permit WXKS to continue running adult standards > during the day. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eli Polonsky > To: Brian Vita ; ; > > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:10 PM > Subject: Re: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) > > > > >> http://theedge.bostonherald.com/tvNews/view.bg?articleid=43752 > > >> > > >> The Herald reports that according to sources, Air America will > > >> be running its programming soon on Framingham's WKOX (1200) > > >> and Everett's WXKS (1430) > > >> > > > Well, there, two major powerhouses. I hope that the folks at WRKO and > WTKK > > > are filling out their resumes. When these two blowtorches, er, > cigarette > > > lighters kick on, both of their listeners will be glued. Was 1150 > > > unavailable? > > > > Well, though neither of those have the "big" sound of a 50,000 watt > > boomer, a simulcast would give them pretty good daytime coverage of > > greater Boston. > > > > WXKS's daytime signal covers within all of 128 pretty well, and WKOX > > daytime gets all the west suburbs and metro-west out to Worcester. > > > > Nighttime would be more spotty, WXKS would still get the immediate > > metro-north Boston towns, downtown Boston, the immediate north > > shore, and a bit of the tip of the coastal south shore, but doesn't > > really go inland west or south of Cambridge worth anything at night. > > > > West of 495 would lose WKOX at night, but they'll still get Boston's > > metro-west suburbs with a fair to middling signal, and they're weak > > but still listenable in areas just west of Boston that get very > > little of WXKS-AM at night , such as Brighton, Brookline, Newton... > > > > Eli > > > From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Sep 11 16:31:10 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Sep 11 16:31:18 2004 Subject: Has The Mouse Gone HD? Message-ID: <20040911203110.8110BCA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> I was scanning AM frequencies in the twelves, and noticed horrendous hash on WKBR-AM 1250, Manchester, NH. I wasn't experiencing hash elsewhere in the middle-upper AM dial, so I tried WMKI-AM 1260, Boston, and it was clear. Then I tried WTSN-AM 1270 in Dover, NH, and it was subject to the same hash as WKBR. Is it possible than Disney is experimenting with digital broadcasting on WMKI? If so, it's one of the few AM stations in a very crowded part of the dial to do so, around here at least. The honchos at WKBR and WTSN may want to cry "foul" because this interference is occuring about 35 miles north of the WMKI transmitter, almost into NH! Laurence Glavin Methuen, MA -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From Kaimbridge@programmer.net Sat Sep 11 17:29:02 2004 From: Kaimbridge@programmer.net (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Sat Sep 11 17:29:26 2004 Subject: [BRI] Re: Has The Mouse Gone HD? Message-ID: <41436E1E.86C089F8@Programmer.Net> Laurence Glavin wrote, > I was scanning AM frequencies in the twelves, and noticed > horrendous hash on WKBR-AM 1250, Manchester, NH. I wasn't > experiencing hash elsewhere in the middle-upper AM dial, so I > tried WMKI-AM 1260, Boston, and it was clear. Then I tried > WTSN-AM 1270 in Dover, NH, and it was subject to the same hash > as WKBR. Is it possible than Disney is experimenting with digital > broadcasting on WMKI? > If so, it's one of the few AM stations in a very crowded part of > the dial to do so, around here at least. The honchos at WKBR and > WTSN may want to cry "foul" because this interference is occuring > about 35 miles north of the WMKI transmitter, almost into NH! You beat me to the cocktail, Larry! As I was getting ready to post... Don't know when they started, but at 2:30 this afternoon I noted IBOC "roar" from about 1.2445-1.2535 and 1.2685-1.2775. Strangely, 1.254-1.268 appears "roarless" (unlike 'BZ's IBOC "roar", which presses tightly around the main analog modulation). The main (analog) modulation (compression?) seems awfully weak, too. ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Sep 11 21:22:33 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Sep 11 21:22:46 2004 Subject: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) Message-ID: <20040912012233.36B05395C@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Well, there, two major powerhouses. I hope that the folks at WRKO and WTKK are filling out their resumes. When these two blowtorches, er, cigarette lighters kick on, both of their listeners will be glued. Was 1150 unavailable? Yep...well, 1430 and 1200 have signals not much better than 1150 does up here but I guess they figure if the signals can get into Cambridge, etc.... Even though AA has trumpeted "higher ratings than O'Reilly" (or was it Rush?) in NY, they're still the token opposition (as of now) compared to the hundreds of stations running Rush, Hannity, etc., and the huge ratings those stations get. At least the Left can say they have a presence in commercial talk radio now. Outside of Air America, they only have NPR, ABC, CBS, CNN, CNN Headline News, MSNBC, NBC, the NY Times, the Boston Globe, the Washington Post, the L.A. Times, Newsweek, Time....really, the liberals are being SO shortchanged in the media these days :) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Sep 11 21:24:55 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Sep 11 21:25:09 2004 Subject: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) Message-ID: <20040912012455.ED8B33968@mprdmxin.myway.com> By the way, in an earlier post I mentioned that the Herald had talked about "WEEI-FM" (sic) in an article headline when they were clearly talking about the Boston-based WEEI (AM). But that was only in the Herald's online edition. The headline was corrected in the "dead trees" version. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Sep 12 00:15:11 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Sep 12 00:14:25 2004 Subject: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) In-Reply-To: <20040911071038.6ADA13987@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <4143950F.14733.8C0AA8@localhost> On 11 Sep 2004 at 3:10, Bob Nelson wrote: > The Herald reports that according to sources, Air America will > be running its programming soon on Framingham's WKOX (1200) > and Everett's WXKS (1430) It's also interesting that they report that Air America has picked up ratings and momentum, and that Al Franken has beaten Bill O'Reilly in New York ratings. That's gotta be good news for the network. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Sep 12 00:15:11 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Sep 12 00:14:27 2004 Subject: UMass Football Network Message-ID: <4143950F.12176.8C0AEE@localhost> The network carrying UMass football has been shrinking in recent years and is now down to just three stations: WCAP, Lowell, WATD, Marshfield, and WRNX, which is said to be in Holyoke, though I always thought it was in Amherst. WRNX has replaced WHMP as flagship station this year. There's still no station that gets a signal into Boston, and at this point no station covering Worcester either. Fortunately, today's night game (in which UMass beat Colgate, 30-20) was on televison on CN8. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From steveord@bit-net.com Sun Sep 12 08:07:24 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Sep 12 08:07:28 2004 Subject: WKBR (was: Has The Mouse Gone HD?) In-Reply-To: <20040911203110.8110BCA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20040911203110.8110BCA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040912075958.01ba8f80@pop3.bit-net.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: >I was scanning AM frequencies in the twelves, and noticed horrendous >hash on WKBR-AM 1250, Manchester, NH. >The honchos at WKBR and >WTSN may want to cry "foul" because this interference is occuring >about 35 miles north of the WMKI transmitter, almost >into NH! I'm wondering what future WKBR has anyway. Apparently Steve Silberberg has gotten the OK from Goffstown's lack-of-planning board to build an industrial park on what is currently WKBR''s tx site. The site was logged off about a year ago, and last weekend I noticed that bulldozers had been at work...some of the work seemed awfully close to where the ground system would be. Since that station hasn't had either any appreciable audience or revenue in close to 20 years, the land (45 acres) has gotta be worth far more than the license. I really doubt he (or whoever buys the property) really wants a 5 tower DA taking up half the property. From steveord@bit-net.com Sun Sep 12 08:10:35 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Sep 12 08:10:37 2004 Subject: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) In-Reply-To: <4143950F.14733.8C0AA8@localhost> References: <20040911071038.6ADA13987@mprdmxin.myway.com> <4143950F.14733.8C0AA8@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040912080825.01bc1448@pop3.bit-net.com> At 12:15 AM 9/12/2004, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >It's also interesting that they report that Air America has picked up >ratings and momentum, >and that Al Franken has beaten Bill O'Reilly in New York ratings. That's >gotta be good news >for the network. Like that's some sort of accomplishment? O'Reilly hasn't exactly been a major ratings generator much of anywhere. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Sep 12 08:51:48 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Sep 12 08:52:42 2004 Subject: WKBR (was: Has The Mouse Gone HD?) References: <20040911203110.8110BCA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20040912075958.01ba8f80@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <000e01c498c7$5f409b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Well, that doesn't necessarily have to happen. The best-known case of an AM DA coexisting with an industrial use is outside Los Angeles, where KTNQ 1020 and KXTA 1150 share a five-tower array (half-wave at 1020; better than 200 degrees at 1150) with a huge one-story warehouse whose roof hosts the ground system. Both stations run 50 kW (KXTA is officially 44 kW at night) and the warehouse was built around the towers years after they had already been constructed. (Actually, KXTA's diplex with KTNQ was constructed years after the warehouse went up.) I assume (but don't know) that the warehouse surrounds the guy-wire anchor points in the same way that it surrounds the tower bases. I suppose that the towers could have been re-guyed when the warehouse went up, but that sounds more expensive then just building the warehouse around the anchors. Although the tower bases are on the ground, not on top of the warehouse, I suppose that the ground system on the warehouse roof qualifies this installation as a rooftop DA. If so, it's not the only one in the US. A small 1510 station (KMZT 8 kW-D/230W-N DA-2) licensed to Piedmont, in Marin County, north of the Golden Gate Bridge, has its five-element DA atop a warehouse near the waterfont in Oakland. In this case, the warehouse was there before the antenna. The station recently added night service and added the fifth element to the array, which consists of four towers arranged in a parallelogram; the fifth element is a drop wire suspended from the midpoint of a horizontal wire joining the tops of the two towers on the west side of the paralellogram. The point is that, if the land is sufficiently valuable, there are ways of sharing its use. My guess is that Silberberg will retain ownership of the land and will lease it for a long period to the owners of the industrial park. That should provide him with a way of preventing misuse of the land (as when the owners of the 411 Waverley Oaks Industrial Park in Waltham mounted lights to illuminate their parking lot on the newly constructed and not-yet-in-use towers of what was then WITS). Also, the rent that Silberberg receives on the land should pay for the cost of running the radio station--assuming that he never finds a way to make money from selling advertising on the station. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: SteveOrdinetz To: Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 8:07 AM Subject: WKBR (was: Has The Mouse Gone HD?) > Laurence Glavin wrote: > >I was scanning AM frequencies in the twelves, and noticed horrendous > >hash on WKBR-AM 1250, Manchester, NH. > >The honchos at WKBR and > >WTSN may want to cry "foul" because this interference is occuring > >about 35 miles north of the WMKI transmitter, almost > >into NH! > > > I'm wondering what future WKBR has anyway. Apparently Steve Silberberg has > gotten the OK from Goffstown's lack-of-planning board to build an > industrial park on what is currently WKBR''s tx site. The site was logged > off about a year ago, and last weekend I noticed that bulldozers had been > at work...some of the work seemed awfully close to where the ground system > would be. Since that station hasn't had either any appreciable audience or > revenue in close to 20 years, the land (45 acres) has gotta be worth far > more than the license. I really doubt he (or whoever buys the property) > really wants a 5 tower DA taking up half the property. > > > From fox893@yahoo.com Sun Sep 12 09:27:21 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Sun Sep 12 09:27:30 2004 Subject: "Barnraising" For Portsmouth, NH LPFM In-Reply-To: <20040911181726.491073384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20040912132721.4059.qmail@web61107.mail.yahoo.com> Wasn't Prometheus Radio who that tower technician working in Iraq was working for? The one who was kidnapped and later slain... Sorry, I can't seem to remember his name. --- Laurence Glavin wrote: > Prometheus Radio, an advocacy group for low power > FM's, > is having what they call a "barnraising" for the > low-power > FM assigned to Portsmouth, NH, WSCA-LP, 106.1. It's > happening this weekend; read all about it at: __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From rjoc@webtv.net Sun Sep 12 12:57:18 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Sun Sep 12 12:57:27 2004 Subject: WDEA-1370 STILL off the air. Message-ID: <8074-41447FEE-737@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net> As of today,Sunday, Sept. 12th Local AMer WDEA-1370 has been off the air 24 days. Talked to a staff member at Cumulus in Brewer on Friday, and she says they are now in the process of replacing the AM Transmitter. They were unable to obtain replacement parts for the two 50-year old main and "back-up" transmitters. She was unwilling to speculate much further on whether they were getting a new or used transmitter. In her words they hope to be back on "soon". Now if any of Cumulus' 3 Bangor-area FMs went on the fritz, how long do you think they would have been off the air?? I feel sorry for morning man Rick Foster who has been without a job for over three weeks now. And there have been rumblings of discontent from listeners as far away as NovaScotia, as well as just a few Red Sox fans/advertisers!!.. What a shame this station has been neglected over the past few years. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From rjoc@webtv.net Sun Sep 12 13:04:35 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Sun Sep 12 13:04:44 2004 Subject: WABI-TV5 starts 12noon newscast. Message-ID: <8074-414481A3-746@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net> Local Bangor CBS Afiliate WABI TV Channel 5 (Maine's first TVstation) has announced they will start a live half-hour local 12-noon newscast tomorrow (Monday, Sept. 13) They have a paid ad in this week's BangorDaily News TVWatch magazine detailing the move. They emphasize it is Central and Eastern Maine's ONLY local newscast at 12Noon coming LIVE from their Bangor studios. Perhaps an indirect hint that WLBZ Channel 2 noon news is not broadcast live from Bangor, but relayed from WCSH Portland. This marks the second time this year that WABI TV has expended their newscast. Earlier this year they added an extra half-hour of local news from 5-5:30PM weekdays. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From mhiggs@gmail.com Sun Sep 12 14:16:48 2004 From: mhiggs@gmail.com (Matt Higgs) Date: Sun Sep 12 14:17:05 2004 Subject: WABI-TV5 starts 12noon newscast. In-Reply-To: <8074-414481A3-746@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net> References: <8074-414481A3-746@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: I thought I'd post this while I had it in mind. WAGM-TV in Presque Isle, ME has expanded their weekend news to a Sunday show at 6 pm, starting last week. They've had a 5 minute noon show for a little over a year now, but since their dumping "I love lucy" which only runs 25 minutes, I'm guessing "NewsSource 8 at Noon" will be scrapped. Matt Higgs New Brunswick On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:04:35 -0400, Rod O'Connor wrote: > > Local Bangor CBS Afiliate WABI TV Channel 5 (Maine's first TVstation) > has announced they will start a live half-hour local 12-noon newscast > tomorrow (Monday, Sept. 13) > > They have a paid ad in this week's BangorDaily News TVWatch magazine > detailing the move. They emphasize it is Central and Eastern Maine's > ONLY local newscast at 12Noon coming LIVE from their Bangor studios. > Perhaps an indirect hint that WLBZ Channel 2 noon news is not broadcast > live from Bangor, but relayed from WCSH Portland. > > This marks the second time this year that WABI TV has expended their > newscast. Earlier this year they added an extra half-hour of local news > from 5-5:30PM weekdays. > > Rod O'Connor > Southwest Harbor, Maine > > From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Sep 12 14:44:36 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun Sep 12 14:30:49 2004 Subject: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) In-Reply-To: <001901c49830$38dbd640$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: On 9/11/04 2:50 PM, "Dan Strassberg" wrote: >> I dunno how well WKOX comes in in Brighton at night. I tried it driving through there last night. It was audible, but weak, with background noise from distant stations and adjacent station 10k Heterodynes (not to mention all the electrical components in my car). Spoken programming content can be clearly understood, but it's not a pleasant listening experience with the background noise, and it's unlikely that anyone who doesn't know exactly where to look on the dial would stumble onto it randomly. It would be for the dedicated listener at best. It was actually a bit better than the night signal from WXKS-AM in that area though, which though closer, was so nulled-out that it was clobbered by 1430's from New Jersey and elsewhere. >> The other potential problem is that WKOX's 3-kW (or so) night signal >> from Oak Hill might not be interference free over 80% of Newton, which >> is geographically quite large, so an FCC waiver of the COL coverage >> requirements could be required. I believe that area near Newton Corner >> would present the greatest problem. Newton Corner would be about as far as possible from Oak Hill as you can go practically due north, but you can go geographically a lot farther in Newton to the northwest, the most distant location in Newton being the area of West Newton near the Waltham line (informally known as "Nightcap's Corner"), where Lexington St. Newton becomes Moody St. Waltham (near the area of WNTN's studio and transmitter). The Auburndale area out by Route 30 and 128 is also as distant, and a bit more west. With the directional pattern required by that hypothetical WKOX configuration at night, I think the more westerly extremes of Newton would be more likely than Newton Corner to get a sub-grade signal from Oak Hill. Eli From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Sun Sep 12 15:36:00 2004 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Sun Sep 12 15:36:07 2004 Subject: WKBR (was: Has The Mouse Gone HD?) In-Reply-To: <000e01c498c7$5f409b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <20040912193600.61380.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> Piedmont which is a section of Oakland is located in Alameda County, east of the Golden Gate Bridge. Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA --- Dan Strassberg wrote: A small 1510 station (KMZT 8 kW-D/230W-N DA-2) licensed to Piedmont, in Marin County, north of the Golden Gate Bridge, has its five-element DA atop a warehouse near the waterfont in Oakland. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Sep 12 16:17:36 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Sep 12 16:17:43 2004 Subject: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) References: Message-ID: <002901c49905$8bd0a710$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Didn't WXKS-AM carry nostalgia? Will this mean a ratings increase for WJIB? From scott@fybush.com Sun Sep 12 21:03:36 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun Sep 12 21:03:41 2004 Subject: WKBR (was: Has The Mouse Gone HD?) In-Reply-To: <20040912193600.61380.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> References: <000e01c498c7$5f409b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <20040912193600.61380.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1865.24.93.17.17.1095037416.squirrel@24.93.17.17> I suspect the confusion probably comes from 1510's fairly recent change of COL; it was originally a ND daytimer (1 kw?) licensed to San Rafael in Marin County. > Piedmont which is a section of Oakland is located in > Alameda County, east of the Golden Gate Bridge. > > Roy Lawrence > San Francisco, CA > > > --- Dan Strassberg wrote: > > A > small 1510 station (KMZT 8 kW-D/230W-N DA-2) licensed > to Piedmont, in > Marin > County, north of the Golden Gate Bridge, has its > five-element DA atop a > warehouse near the waterfont in Oakland. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Sep 12 21:13:01 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Sep 12 21:14:28 2004 Subject: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) References: <002901c49905$8bd0a710$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <001001c4992e$fe174620$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Yes and yes, although WJIB will continue to lose (or not pick up) listeners because it carries Radio France International in AM drive (7:00 AM to 9:00 AM). If my barber, Frank Guarino, whose radio has been tuned to WXKS (AM) for the nearly 20 years I have been his customer, is any indication, some listeners will tune to WMJX rather than to WJIB. When WXKS carried brokered talk (American Express Financial), Frank would switch to 106.7 rather than to 740--notwithstanding that the barbershop is on Concord Ave in Belmont Center approximately 1-1/2 miles from WJIB. Since Frank opens his shop at around 7:45 AM, he is now likely to start out with the radio on 106.7 and just leave it there all day. The location is close enough to WJIB that, after sunset in the winter, WJIB's 5W night signal would be no problem for Frank to pick up--if he would only tune to 740. When WXKS flips, some listeners will doubtless tune in to WPLM-FM, but Frank's shop is in a basement, and I don't think his radio can get the 99.1 signal. Maybe Bob Bittner should start patronizing Frank's shop. It's not out of Bob's way. Maybe he could convince Frank to switch to 740. I've tried repeatedly, but to no avail. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Billings To: Boston Radio Interest Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 4:17 PM Subject: Re: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) > Didn't WXKS-AM carry nostalgia? Will this mean a ratings increase for WJIB? > From sid@wrko.com Sun Sep 12 21:15:14 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun Sep 12 21:15:39 2004 Subject: "Barnraising" For Portsmouth, NH LPFM Message-ID: >>Wasn't Prometheus Radio who that tower technician working in Iraq was working for? The one who was kidnapped and later slain... Sorry, I can't seem to remember his name.<< Nicholas Berg. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Sep 12 21:26:34 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Sep 12 21:26:49 2004 Subject: WKBR (was: Has The Mouse Gone HD?) References: <20040912193600.61380.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001c01c49930$b975c6c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I guess that when KMZT added night service (as a Class B), the station had to change its COL to someplace inside its NIF contour, which can't be very large with only 230W (but 230W is enough for Class B status because the pattern RMS is greater than 140.85 mV/m--the equivalent of 250W into a minimum-efficiency radiator). When the station was a daytimer, its COL used to be a community in Marin whose name I don't recall, but it was on the side facing the Bay. Of course, back then, KMZT had different calls, which I also can't recall. I presume that the station is now classical and that KMZT stands for K-Mozart. Maybe it used to be KKHI. The 1550 station in SF (now KYCY--Young Country) used to be classical for many years and was then KKHI. KYCY has applied to move to San Jose because Infinity, which owns it, is over the ownership limit on SF signals. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Roy Lawrence To: Dan Strassberg Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 3:36 PM Subject: Re: WKBR (was: Has The Mouse Gone HD?) > Piedmont which is a section of Oakland is located in > Alameda County, east of the Golden Gate Bridge. > > Roy Lawrence > San Francisco, CA > > > --- Dan Strassberg wrote: > > A > small 1510 station (KMZT 8 kW-D/230W-N DA-2) licensed > to Piedmont, in > Marin > County, north of the Golden Gate Bridge, has its > five-element DA atop a > warehouse near the waterfont in Oakland. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Sep 12 21:58:00 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Sep 12 21:59:00 2004 Subject: WKBR (was: Has The Mouse Gone HD?) References: <000e01c498c7$5f409b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <20040912193600.61380.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> <1865.24.93.17.17.1095037416.squirrel@24.93.17.17> Message-ID: <003601c49935$37d8fba0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Before what is now KMZT went full-time, it was transmitting daytime only from the same rooftop site it now uses but with a four-tower DA. And yes, you are correct, the COL was San Rafael. The power from the Oakland site may have originally been 5 kw with 8 kW coming a bit later. The mods to the DA to allow the 230W night operation consisted of adding the wire between the tops of the two west towers and the drop-line fifth "tower" suspended from it. I also recall something in the application about replacing the ground system on the warehouse roof with something more substantial than the original (very non-standard) chicken-wire mesh, which had apparently corroded away in the salt air after only a few years(!) And I think I'm right that, when the station first moved its TX to Oakland and its COL to San Rafael, its calls were KKHI, long associated with the classical format in the Bay area--on a frequency just a little way up the dial from 1510. Now, isn't the owner of KMZT the rather eccentric guy who owns 1260 KSUR in Beverly Hills (or wherever) and a 540 station in Tijuana, and for many years held an unbuilt CP for a highly directional 540 in the Central Valley with very unusual facilities (including a COL 80-some miles from the TX)? Seems to me I heard that the steel for KMJ's four new 800+-ft towers east of Fresno was originally ordered for the 540 station. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Fybush To: Roy Lawrence Cc: Dan Strassberg ; Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:03 PM Subject: Re: WKBR (was: Has The Mouse Gone HD?) > I suspect the confusion probably comes from 1510's fairly recent change of > COL; it was originally a ND daytimer (1 kw?) licensed to San Rafael in > Marin County. > > > Piedmont which is a section of Oakland is located in > > Alameda County, east of the Golden Gate Bridge. > > > > Roy Lawrence > > San Francisco, CA > > > > > > --- Dan Strassberg wrote: > > > > A > > small 1510 station (KMZT 8 kW-D/230W-N DA-2) licensed > > to Piedmont, in > > Marin > > County, north of the Golden Gate Bridge, has its > > five-element DA atop a > > warehouse near the waterfont in Oakland. > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > From steveord@bit-net.com Mon Sep 13 07:54:03 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Mon Sep 13 07:54:10 2004 Subject: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) In-Reply-To: <001001c4992e$fe174620$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <002901c49905$8bd0a710$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <001001c4992e$fe174620$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040913075152.01b0f5f0@pop3.bit-net.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: >Yes and yes, although WJIB will continue to lose (or not pick up) listeners >because it carries Radio France International in AM drive (7:00 AM to 9:00 >AM). If my barber, Frank Guarino, whose radio has been tuned to WXKS (AM) >for the nearly 20 years I have been his customer, is any indication, some >listeners will tune to WMJX rather than to WJIB. When WXKS carried brokered >talk (American Express Financial), Frank would switch to 106.7 rather than >to 740--notwithstanding that the barbershop is on Concord Ave in Belmont >Center approximately 1-1/2 miles from WJIB. Since Frank opens his shop at >around 7:45 AM, he is now likely to start out with the radio on 106.7 and >just leave it there all day. This is every bit as true today as it was in the early 80s when AM stations began dropping music formats in favor of talk...it was simply one less reason to listen to AM. From mlaurence@mindspring.com Mon Sep 13 08:11:25 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Mon Sep 13 08:11:32 2004 Subject: Herald: Air America on WKOX, WXKS (AM) In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040913075152.01b0f5f0@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <002901c49905$8bd0a710$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <001001c4992e$fe174620$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <6.0.3.0.0.20040913075152.01b0f5f0@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <08E3D1A5-057E-11D9-A180-000393D13824@mindspring.com> On Sep 13, 2004, at 7:54 AM, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > This is every bit as true today as it was in the early 80s when AM > stations began dropping music formats in favor of talk...it was simply > one less reason to listen to AM. For some radio listeners, this will be the first good reason to listen to AM in a long time. Mark From scott@fybush.com Mon Sep 13 12:20:38 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Sep 13 12:20:42 2004 Subject: 'Barnraising' For Portsmouth, NH LPFM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55352.66.36.29.158.1095092438.squirrel@66.36.29.158> >>>Wasn't Prometheus Radio who that tower technician working in Iraq was >>> working for? The one who was kidnapped and later slain... Sorry, I >>> can't seem to > remember his name.<< > > Nicholas Berg. Nick's company was called Prometheus Method Tower Services - no relation at all to Pete TriDish and his merry band of LPFM activists. s From scott@fybush.com Mon Sep 13 12:35:27 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Sep 13 12:35:30 2004 Subject: KKHI (was WKBR) In-Reply-To: <003601c49935$37d8fba0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <000e01c498c7$5f409b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <20040912193600.61380.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> <1865.24.93.17.17.1095037416.squirrel@24.93.17.17> <003601c49935$37d8fba0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <56786.66.36.29.158.1095093327.squirrel@66.36.29.158> > And I think I'm > right that, when the station first moved its TX to Oakland and its COL to > San Rafael, its calls were KKHI, long associated with the classical format > in the Bay area--on a frequency just a little way up the dial from 1510. The 1510 station is much older than that, and the San Rafael COL long predates the Oakland TX. It was on the air as early as the late fifties or early sixties (I'm at WXXI right now and away from my Broadcasting Yearbooks at home) and was best known under the KTIM calls. It was then a ND daytimer with 1 kw or so from a short stick in Marin County. The move of TX to Oakland (and the power up with that rooftop DA) didn't come until the mid-to-late nineties, at which point the calls were indeed KKHI. (1510 long had an FM sister in San Rafael, originally on 100.9, now on 100.7; it was then KKHI-FM.) > > Now, isn't the owner of KMZT the rather eccentric guy who owns 1260 KSUR > in > Beverly Hills (or wherever) and a 540 station in Tijuana, and for many > years > held an unbuilt CP for a highly directional 540 in the Central Valley with > very unusual facilities (including a COL 80-some miles from the TX)? Seems > to me I heard that the steel for KMJ's four new 800+-ft towers east of > Fresno was originally ordered for the 540 station. That was Saul Levine, and he used to own 100.7 as well, though he's since sold that off to Salem. KMZT(AM) shares its calls with Saul's KMZT-FM 105.1, LA's commercial classical station (which used to be KKGO and used to be jazz, but I digress.) Saul actually built the 540, which was licensed to Costa Mesa but transmitted from Hesperia, in the high desert north of San Bernardino. It was indeed about 80 miles from tx site to COL. The story I've heard is that the 540 was built primarily to make Costa Mesa eligible for an X-band facility under the "Elizabeth rule," since the city has more than 100,000 people and no other "local" broadcast service. Once the 540 was on the air, Saul could - and did - apply for 1650 in Costa Mesa. It's since changed city of license to Torrance and now diplexes on the KWKW 1330 array in south central LA, and Saul sold it for a mint to the Koreans who now run it as KFOX. (Another LA heritage call, by the way.) Everything at the 540 site was sold off, including the towers, which may well have gone to KMJ. s From ka1mvk@hotmail.com Mon Sep 13 14:20:51 2004 From: ka1mvk@hotmail.com (Andy Soule) Date: Mon Sep 13 14:21:05 2004 Subject: WDEA-1370 STILL off the air. References: <200409131600.i8DG03d7009940@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: Rod, WDEA's main transmitter is indeed, 1950's vintage, and was not in all that great a shape when i saw it, nearly 20 years ago. A modern transmitter will pay for itself within 3 years. 24 days??? Oh! The shame of it! From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Sep 13 14:34:31 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Sep 13 14:34:36 2004 Subject: UMass Football Network In-Reply-To: <4143950F.12176.8C0AEE@localhost> References: <4143950F.12176.8C0AEE@localhost> Message-ID: <200409131834.i8DIYVh9067751@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > WRNX, which is said to be in Holyoke, though I always thought it was > in Amherst. WRNX is licensed Amherst, but their studios have been on Lower Westfield Road in Holyoke (across the street from The Mall) for some time. I finally got a picture of them a week ago coming back from NRC (after spending an unexpected night in Westfield). -GAWollman From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Sep 13 15:15:47 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Sep 13 15:13:09 2004 Subject: WDEA-1370 STILL off the air. Message-ID: <200409131515.AA5374004@mail.ttlc.net> rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) wrote: >As of today,Sunday, Sept. 12th Local AMer WDEA-1370 has been off >the air 24 days. They were unable to obtain replacement parts >for the two 50-year old main and "back-up" transmitters. >What a shame this station has been neglected over the past few years. To play Devil's Advocate here, it has long been recognized here in the Northeast that both local custom and local wisdom dictate "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" And quite frankly that extends to luxuries like preventive maintenance. Here in New England, we do little to prolong the life of roads, bridges, buildings, cars, etc. We just wait until they break, then wring our hands, beg, borrow and steal to get them fixed - just barely. Look at the University Ave bridge in Lowell, MA. After eons of neglect, the authorities shut it down - first to Busses and trucks, then to cars and finally to pedestrians. I'll bet it'll be years before it it's fixed - if ever. Meanwhile the citizens of Lowell take it on the chin (or dashboard in the case of commuters) once again with monumental inconvenience and staggering traffic re-routes that change when the Spinners play, etc. Remember that "temporary bridge" over the Merrimack River built by the Army Corp of Engineers some 20-odd years ago? It's in sad shape and I'll wager they'll continue to neglect it until they have to build a temporary temporary bridge. And the old one will sit unused and decaying. To quote your typical Downeasternah: "We don't spend unless we're forced ta. We call it frugal. That's the way we wuz brought up. Ayuh!" From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Sep 13 15:24:02 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Sep 13 15:21:24 2004 Subject: "Barnraising" For Portsmouth, NH LPFM Message-ID: <200409131524.AA3753246818@mail.ttlc.net> "Laurence Glavin" wrote: >Prometheus Radio, an advocacy group for low power FM's, >is having what they call a "barnraising" for the low-power >FM assigned to Portsmouth, NH, WSCA-LP, 106.1. I find one of the comments in the PrometheusRadio.org's FAQ just a bit intriguing: "Many Ham-Radio people are crypto-militia wingnuts, but most at least have a strong libertarian streak ... and if they can go around spending your money on getting good deals for towers and whatnot, they will put them up for a case of beer." If find this a rather strange comment. What would be the basis for this claim? Any Hams on-list care to comment (low-temperaturedly)? From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Sep 13 16:51:19 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Sep 13 16:51:58 2004 Subject: The Mouse Strictly Analog (For Now) Message-ID: <20040913205124.2198586AE9@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> WMKI-AM 1260's brief bout of HD broadcasting may have been the beginning of a testing period. It's been strictly analog on Sunday and Monday. The audio Saturday was very low, and their format requires everything to be LOUD LOUD LOUD! Obiter dictum: Disney wouldn't be thinking of introducing HD on just ONE of their outlets...it may be time to monitor WQEW! (AM 1570 in Riverhead get ready) -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From scott@fybush.com Mon Sep 13 17:39:39 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Sep 13 17:39:05 2004 Subject: The Mouse Strictly Analog (For Now) In-Reply-To: <20040913205124.2198586AE9@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040913173725.03981b90@gwind.pair.com> At 03:51 PM 9/13/2004 -0500, Laurence Glavin wrote: >WMKI-AM 1260's brief bout of HD broadcasting may have been >the beginning of a testing period. It's been strictly analog >on Sunday and Monday. The audio Saturday was very low, >and their format requires everything to be LOUD LOUD LOUD! >Obiter dictum: Disney wouldn't be thinking of introducing >HD on just ONE of their outlets...it may be time to monitor >WQEW! (AM 1570 in Riverhead get ready) 'Cept for one little thing: Disney doesn't own WQEW, and I rather suspect that WQEW's owners don't have much interest in making that sort of upgrade to their facilities, even if Disney's paying (which they wouldn't be, since it's not their transmitter site.) In any event, the daytime signal from WQEW is long gone before you get within listenable range of 1570 Riverhead, if 1570 Riverhead is even on the air. I'd be much more concerned if I were WNTN and it were early in the morning or late in the afternoon on a nice chilly winter day...that top-of-the-dial skywave is LOUD. s From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Mon Sep 13 19:13:00 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Mon Sep 13 19:14:10 2004 Subject: Still, We Believe Message-ID: <000001c499e7$36ff1b80$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Just finished watching the DVD version of the Red Sox 2003 Documentary of "Still, We Believe." Thots: 1) nicely done 2) timing was perfect. 5 sets of fans, different races, creeds, colors, sex and physical limitations, all rabid (and accustomed to it) red sox fans in a year that saw an improbable run end in an all-too-familiar fashion. 3) representation of the media played a crucial role. From the NESN and Red Sox Radio announcers to the WEEI morning show (with a nod to Glen Ordwary for his nicknaming of "angry bill"). One portion of the "deleted scenes" focused exclusively on the opinions of two of WEEI's regulars (Angry Bill and Jermaine (sp?)) on each other, and on the hosts. Interesting takes on "sports radio" listeners and callers, with Jermaine having to steel himself up to finally jump into the talk-show fray. Also included were a few snippets from Gerry Callahan on his thoughts on the callers-in-particular. The entire production was being filmed "independently" of the characters' interactions with the Red Sox play and the individuals' lives, meaning that the first time the primary "fans" had a chance to interact was at the movie's premiere. The producers/filmographers did manage to "prod" the two above mentioned principals (Bill and Jermaine) on their opinion of the other, but otherwise, there were some very interesting takes on the Sox, and some great reflections from even the Red Sox players themselves on media in their "love of the game." (references to Vin Scully, TWIB and more) I won't (I promise!!!) tell you how the film ends. But for $20, I'll tell you what happens at the end of "Titanic." - -Chuck ("bleepin'"'s a pretty good middle name) Igo For those who wonder: Bucky "Bleepin'" Dent Bill "Bleepin'" Buckner Aaron "Bleepin'" Boone Grady "Bleepin'" Little Harry "Bleepin'" Frazee From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Sep 13 20:20:47 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon Sep 13 20:23:16 2004 Subject: The Mouse Strictly Analog (For Now) References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040913173725.03981b90@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <001f01c499f1$03215260$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Remember that Disney owns WDZK 1550 Bloomfield-Hartford. If both WQEW and WDZK were to run HD Radio, that would be a REAL case of unholstering a gun and shooting yourself in the foot (or someplace higher and more painful). I think that in places like, say, Hamden or maybe Middletown, each Radio Disney would make the other unlistenable, so neither would be listenable. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Fybush To: Laurence Glavin ; Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 5:39 PM Subject: Re: The Mouse Strictly Analog (For Now) > At 03:51 PM 9/13/2004 -0500, Laurence Glavin wrote: > >WMKI-AM 1260's brief bout of HD broadcasting may have been > >the beginning of a testing period. It's been strictly analog > >on Sunday and Monday. The audio Saturday was very low, > >and their format requires everything to be LOUD LOUD LOUD! > >Obiter dictum: Disney wouldn't be thinking of introducing > >HD on just ONE of their outlets...it may be time to monitor > >WQEW! (AM 1570 in Riverhead get ready) > > 'Cept for one little thing: Disney doesn't own WQEW, and I rather suspect > that WQEW's owners don't have much interest in making that sort of upgrade > to their facilities, even if Disney's paying (which they wouldn't be, since > it's not their transmitter site.) > > In any event, the daytime signal from WQEW is long gone before you get > within listenable range of 1570 Riverhead, if 1570 Riverhead is even on the > air. I'd be much more concerned if I were WNTN and it were early in the > morning or late in the afternoon on a nice chilly winter day...that > top-of-the-dial skywave is LOUD. > > s > From markwats@comcast.net Mon Sep 13 22:29:01 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon Sep 13 22:29:13 2004 Subject: Changes At Kiss 108 Message-ID: <006401c49a02$9b2f0aa0$6f918318@Mark> All Access reporting that WXKS-FM (Kiss 108 Medford/ Boston) midday jock Ed McMann and afternoon jock Artie The One Man Party are out the door. Deidre Delgata moves over from co-owned WJMN (Jam'n 94.5) as the new midday host, Kiss 108 night jock Romeo moves into the afternoon chair, and Kory, most recently at WKCI in New Haven CT is the new night jock at Kiss 108. Mark Watson From radiotony@comcast.net Mon Sep 13 22:33:03 2004 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Mon Sep 13 22:33:14 2004 Subject: Tolkoff back at WFNX ... Message-ID: <006001c49a03$2997f360$6400a8c0@tony> http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=39494 Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net http://politizine.blogspot.com From markwats@comcast.net Mon Sep 13 22:44:01 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon Sep 13 22:44:11 2004 Subject: Gardner Hill Returns To WKXL Message-ID: <007801c49a04$b22e9340$6f918318@Mark> This info was e-mailed to me by Gary Ford, who is having trouble posting and asked me to post this to the list on his behalf : WKXL (1450 Concord NH) has brought back one of it's long running local programs: "Coffee Chat" weekdays at 8:40 AM, hosted by Gardner Hill, who was with WKXL for many years hosting the "Party Line" show among other duties until previous owners eliminated most local programming and Hill had left the station. "Coffee Chat" is a part of WKXL's live local morning news and info programming. Mark Watson From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Tue Sep 14 00:24:03 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Tue Sep 14 00:21:25 2004 Subject: Changes At Kiss 108 Message-ID: <200409140024.AA280297606@mail.ttlc.net> "Mark Watson" notes: > All Access reporting that WXKS-FM (Kiss 108 Medford/ Boston) midday >jock Ed McMann and afternoon jock Artie The One Man Party are out the >door. Deidre Delgata moves over from co-owned WJMN (Jam'n 94.5) as the >new midday host, Kiss 108 night jock Romeo moves into the afternoon >chair, and Kory, most recently at WKCI in New Haven CT is the new night jock at Kiss 108. Well, ya wouldn't know it from their Web Site. All the above- mentioned personalities are still on the schedule. Also, it mentions Billy Costa as Hosting The Phantom Gourmet on NECN. From billo@shoreham.net Tue Sep 14 06:38:10 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue Sep 14 06:38:12 2004 Subject: New AMers Message-ID: <000001c49a46$eea2ee60$0300a8c0@livingroom> Reading Scott Fybush's (weekly obligatory reading) NorthEast Radio Watch, New Hampshire section, it's significant for the fact that not one, but 2 AMers are in application (1490 & 720). Not something you hear about every day. I find myself in tnat area a couple of times a month and can attest that the market has a dearth of options, relatively speaking. Bill O'Neill From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Sep 14 07:28:55 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Sep 14 07:29:02 2004 Subject: Gardner Hill Returns To WKXL In-Reply-To: <007801c49a04$b22e9340$6f918318@Mark> References: <007801c49a04$b22e9340$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040914072749.01bb5410@pop3.bit-net.com> Mark Watson wrote:alf : > WKXL (1450 Concord NH) has brought back one of it's long running local >programs: "Coffee Chat" weekdays at 8:40 AM, hosted by Gardner Hill, who was >with WKXL for many years Not exactly news. He's been back since late June/early July. From ka1mvk@hotmail.com Tue Sep 14 13:40:38 2004 From: ka1mvk@hotmail.com (Andy Soule) Date: Tue Sep 14 14:00:32 2004 Subject: WDEA-1370 STILL off the air. References: <200409131515.AA5374004@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "rogerkirk" To: ; "BRI" Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:15 PM Subject: Re: WDEA-1370 STILL off the air. > To play Devil's Advocate here...(snip) Excellent word choice here... >(unsnip)...it has long been recognized here > in the Northeast that both local custom and local wisdom dictate > "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" And quite frankly that extends > to luxuries like preventive maintenance. Except these decisions are likely made in Atlanta. Preventative Maintenence is not a luxury. Staying on the air, is a necessity. Even without that, bulldoze the place, cut down the towers, whatever the problem, should not result in 24 days off the air. Can anyone remember any station being off the air that long after the ice storm? Or for any other reason? The Dudmans, while not native downeastahs, managed to keep the place in business and on the air for many years. From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Sep 14 14:08:43 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue Sep 14 14:08:52 2004 Subject: The Mouse Strictly Analog (For Now) In-Reply-To: <20040913205124.2198586AE9@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <004101c49a85$e2a97220$6400a8c0@AMD> I see their audio is still VERY narrow. When I listen on my Radio Shack TM-152, they sound a whole lot worse than even most other mono stations. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Laurence Glavin Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 4:51 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: The Mouse Strictly Analog (For Now) WMKI-AM 1260's brief bout of HD broadcasting may have been the beginning of a testing period. It's been strictly analog on Sunday and Monday. The audio Saturday was very low, and their format requires everything to be LOUD LOUD LOUD! Obiter dictum: Disney wouldn't be thinking of introducing HD on just ONE of their outlets...it may be time to monitor WQEW! (AM 1570 in Riverhead get ready) -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default .asp?SRC=lycos10 From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Sep 14 18:30:34 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Tue Sep 14 18:30:41 2004 Subject: WDEA-1370 STILL off the air. References: <200409131515.AA5374004@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <006e01c49aaa$7373e730$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Soule" To: ; ; "BRI" Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 1:40 PM Subject: Re: WDEA-1370 STILL off the air. > Except these decisions are likely made in Atlanta. > > Preventative Maintenence is not a luxury. > The Dudmans, while not native downeastahs, managed to keep the place in > business and on the air for many years. If things are in that bad shape, they must have started to go down hill while the Dudmans were still in charge. From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Sep 14 17:11:52 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Sep 14 18:37:25 2004 Subject: The Mouse Strictly Analog (For Now) Message-ID: <20040914211152.EC9123384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> From: "Dan Strassberg" >Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:20:47 -0400 >To: "Laurence Glavin" ,interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org>,"Scott Fybush" >Subject: Re: The Mouse Strictly Analog (For Now) > Remember that Disney owns WDZK 1550 Bloomfield-Hartford. If both WQEW and > WDZK were to run HD Radio, that would be a REAL case of unholstering a gun > and shooting yourself in the foot (or someplace higher and more painful). > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > I heard of a guy to whom that happened. I believe he died intestate. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Sep 14 17:22:43 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Sep 14 18:51:54 2004 Subject: The Mouse Strictly Analog (For Now) Message-ID: <20040914212243.95EE33384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Lehmann" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:08:43 -0400 To: Subject: RE: The Mouse Strictly Analog (For Now) > I see their audio is still VERY narrow. When I listen on my Radio Shack > TM-152, they sound a whole lot worse than even most other mono stations. > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA > Today (09/14) as I drove home, I tuned first to WMKI then to WKBR at the intersection of routes 128 and 93 north. I noticed that AM 1260 sounded weaker than usual at this point about 15 miles ot so north of their transmitter site in N. Quincy. Then I tuned in to WKBR, and it came in with minimal splattering from WMKI; I was able to make out what Hannity was saying clearly...WMKI usually obliterates WKBR at this point. Thus I believe it's possible they're using an auxiliary transmitter for now, while they operate on their main unit. We shall see. Now this would not normally be of interest because WMKI is a minor(!) player in the Boston market (no 12+ ratings to speak of since their target audience is 12-and-under); but it could be the introduction of IBOC HD in a crowded portion of the dial daytimes. If WMKI goes HD seriously a la WBZ, it could have an effect on WKBR, WARE, WTSN, maybe even WESX! -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Tue Sep 14 19:17:31 2004 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Tue Sep 14 19:17:40 2004 Subject: WMGX 93.1 Was: WDEA-1370 STILL off the air. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040914231731.40491.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> Speaking of towers coming down and being off the air. Has anyone heard on when *or* if WMGX 93.1 is rebuilding their TX site off Persumpscot Street. Last time I was in town in May they had a rather weak signal which seemed to be coming from Blackstrap Hill. Perhaps they were using a temporary rig from their sister FM tower, WPOR 101.9? I am aware that WYNZ 100.9 has rebuilt permanant facilities on the WGAN 560 site. Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA --- Andy Soule wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rogerkirk" > To: ; "BRI" > > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:15 PM > Subject: Re: WDEA-1370 STILL off the air. > > > To play Devil's Advocate here...(snip) > > Excellent word choice here... > > >(unsnip)...it has long been recognized here > > in the Northeast that both local custom and local > wisdom dictate > > "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" And quite > frankly that extends > > to luxuries like preventive maintenance. > > Except these decisions are likely made in Atlanta. > > Preventative Maintenence is not a luxury. Staying > on the air, is a > necessity. Even without that, bulldoze the place, > cut down the towers, > whatever the problem, should not result in 24 days > off the air. Can anyone > remember any station being off the air that long > after the ice storm? Or > for any other reason? > > The Dudmans, while not native downeastahs, managed > to keep the place in > business and on the air for many years. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Sep 14 23:19:20 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Sep 14 23:18:46 2004 Subject: WDEA-1370 STILL off the air. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <41477C78.10000.49C1D6@localhost> On 14 Sep 2004 at 13:40, Andy Soule wrote: > Preventative Maintenence is not a luxury. Staying on the air, is a > necessity. Even without that, bulldoze the place, cut down the towers, > whatever the problem, should not result in 24 days off the air. Can > anyone remember any station being off the air that long after the ice > storm? Or for any other reason? Seems to me both WKBR and WNEB were off the air for quite a bit longer before Bob revived them. And wasn't WRPT silent for many years before it was moved to Ashland at 650? And how about 1060 in Natick? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Sep 15 15:46:20 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Sep 15 15:46:26 2004 Subject: WDEA-1370 STILL off the air. In-Reply-To: <41477C78.10000.49C1D6@localhost> References: <41477C78.10000.49C1D6@localhost> Message-ID: <200409151946.i8FJkKTY095825@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Seems to me both WKBR and WNEB were off the air for quite a bit > longer before Bob revived them. And wasn't WRPT silent for many > years before it was moved to Ashland at 650? And how about 1060 in > Natick? The rules at the time Bob bought WKBR allowed stations to be off the air indefinitely, with the Commission's approval (usually given). This was before the Telecom Act of '96 codified the automatic expiration of a license for failure to operate after one year. Langer got 650 on the air just under the wire for the initial grandfather period. -GAWollman From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Sep 15 15:51:40 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Sep 15 15:51:52 2004 Subject: Boston Radio Watch back Message-ID: <20040915195140.7A52E397E@mprdmxin.myway.com> http://www.bostonradiowatch.com Boston Radio Watch has returned (with an easier-to-remember URL). Once Somewhere.com is back on-line, the older columns will be restored. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Wed Sep 15 16:01:49 2004 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Wed Sep 15 16:01:59 2004 Subject: Boston Radio Watch back References: <20040915195140.7A52E397E@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <000901c49b5e$d69b7580$5c5ba445@DG07P241> Thanks - Ain't life just great once again? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 3:51 PM Subject: Boston Radio Watch back > > http://www.bostonradiowatch.com > > Boston Radio Watch has returned (with an easier-to-remember URL). > Once Somewhere.com is back on-line, the older columns will > be restored. > > > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com > From rac@gabrielmass.com Thu Sep 16 00:54:12 2004 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Thu Sep 16 00:54:30 2004 Subject: What, no pranksters? Message-ID: <41491C74.7050001@gabrielmass.com> With Florida serving as a revolving door for storms this month, ABC's low-budget cable news channel has been showing live coverage of the hurricanes from affiliates in that state. During those hours of free-form (or even formless) live news, some of the stations have resorted to taking live phone calls on-air from viewers giving information or even seeking help. It sounds like a perfect opportunity for the Stern fans to trick their way onto the air. I'm waiting for some joker to call in and say: "The tornado passed through here, and I'm still shakin' over it! We got a lot of strong wind: it was howlin' and whistlin', just ba-boooooeeee: can you say that, ba-boooooeeee?" --RC From sven@gordsven.com Thu Sep 16 01:02:11 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu Sep 16 01:02:20 2004 Subject: What, no pranksters? In-Reply-To: <41491C74.7050001@gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Richard Chonak wrote: > During those hours of free-form (or even formless) live news, some of > the stations have resorted to taking live phone calls on-air from > viewers giving information or even seeking help. It sounds like a > perfect opportunity for the Stern fans to trick their way onto the air. Maybe the TV stations have learned from the radio stations and have put in audio-delay systems into their airchains. That way the ba-ba-booie doesn't even make it on the air. The call is quickly dropped before anyone in the audience hears it. -- steph From raccoonradio@myway.com Thu Sep 16 03:14:23 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Sep 16 03:14:30 2004 Subject: Boston Radio Watch back Message-ID: <20040916071423.C262512CE7@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Thanks - Ain't life just great once again Yup, glad Mark and BRW are back!--Bob _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From fox893@yahoo.com Thu Sep 16 05:52:32 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Thu Sep 16 05:52:55 2004 Subject: What, no pranksters? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040916095232.66543.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> What channel is ABC's "low budget news channel"? --- Stephanie Weil wrote: > On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Richard Chonak wrote: > > During those hours of free-form (or even formless) > live news, some of > > the stations have resorted to taking live phone > calls on-air from > > viewers giving information or even seeking help. > It sounds like a > > perfect opportunity for the Stern fans to trick > their way onto the air. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From fox893@yahoo.com Thu Sep 16 07:48:43 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Thu Sep 16 07:49:44 2004 Subject: WSYY Jock Message-ID: <20040916114843.44701.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com> Just got this one off the AP wire. A David Keys, former WSYY Millinocket employee(jock??), was sentenced to a year and a half in prison for posession of child porno. The name isn't familliar. Any heard of him? Heard him? Speaking of WSYY, what is the deal with their tower problem? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rac@gabrielmass.com Thu Sep 16 11:37:20 2004 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Thu Sep 16 11:37:40 2004 Subject: What, no pranksters? In-Reply-To: <20040916095232.66543.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040916095232.66543.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4149B330.2060209@gabrielmass.com> Cooper Fox wrote: > What channel is ABC's "low budget news channel"? > "ABC News Now" is their cable news channel; I think it was rolled out tentatively about the time of the political conventions. On Comcast, it's channel 194. --RC From rjoc@webtv.net Thu Sep 16 11:50:06 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Thu Sep 16 11:50:15 2004 Subject: WDEA-1370 STILL off air Message-ID: <17643-4149B62E-8834@storefull-3274.bay.webtv.net> WDEA is front-page news in this week's Ellsworth American. Check it out at www.ellsworthamerican.com Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From ka1mvk@hotmail.com Thu Sep 16 12:21:07 2004 From: ka1mvk@hotmail.com (Andy Soule) Date: Thu Sep 16 12:21:18 2004 Subject: WSYY Jock References: <20040916114843.44701.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Never met him. He did mornings up there for years. Local legend had it that his parents owned the station prior to Mark Osbourne, and his indefinite employment was part of the terms of sale. I think their tower problem has likely cooled for a bit, and would go away entirely with a new owner. Save your lunch money. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Fox" To: Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:48 AM Subject: WSYY Jock > Just got this one off the AP wire. A David Keys, > former WSYY Millinocket employee(jock??), was > sentenced to a year and a half in prison for posession > of child porno. The name isn't familliar. Any heard > of him? Heard him? > > Speaking of WSYY, what is the deal with their tower problem? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Sep 16 12:56:38 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Sep 16 12:56:46 2004 Subject: What, no pranksters? Message-ID: At 11:37 AM -0400 9/16/04, Richard Chonak wrote: >Cooper Fox wrote: >>What channel is ABC's "low budget news channel"? >> > >"ABC News Now" is their cable news channel; I think it was rolled out >tentatively about the time of the political conventions. On >Comcast, it's channel 194. I think the idea was to also have it as a stream on ABC affiliate's digital signals, so that people without cable but with digital (HDTV) receivers would have it available. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Sep 16 13:51:42 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Sep 16 13:51:51 2004 Subject: WDEA-1370 STILL off air Message-ID: <200409161351.AA1066008684@mail.ttlc.net> (Rod O'Connor)noted: >WDEA is front-page news in this week's Ellsworth American. For those who appreciate local radio, this quote is priceless: "When you?re owned by an out-of-state corporation, it takes time for them to decide whether to purchase one,? said Miller." I can empathize with the Sox Fans, but since Cumulus in Eugene OR just "re-organized" this week and sent my son to "the beach", I'm afraid my sympathy is out-of-stock and on back-order right now. From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Sep 16 18:47:19 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Thu Sep 16 18:47:26 2004 Subject: WSYY Jock References: <20040916114843.44701.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007901c49c3f$1fad99c0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Here is a link to a Bangor Daily News story on the jock going to jail for child porn: http://www.bangornews.com/editorialnews/article.cfm?ID=435208 The WSYY tower problem is still a problem. It was announced last week that the land the tower is on is being sold as part of the land for a new resort. It does not look good for the tower remaining in place. From rjoc@webtv.net Thu Sep 16 19:03:55 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Thu Sep 16 19:04:04 2004 Subject: WSYY Jock In-Reply-To: "Daniel Billings" 's message of Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:47:19 -0400 Message-ID: <16945-414A1BDB-9578@storefull-3275.bay.webtv.net> Speaking of WSYY tower. They seem to be broadcasting at lower power lately, maybe even from another site or their old tower. Their signal doesn't interfere with WHOM as much as it used to. I especially noticed it on my last few trips down south. Coming back north on 95 WHOM always used to pick up interference by the time I hit Waterville. Most recent trips I carefully monitored them, and their signal stayed rock solid to the US2/ME Routes 7/100 Moosehead Trail exit in Newport. (25 miles west of Bangor) Even better indicator is a trip to the top of 1500 foot Cadillac Mountain here on Mount Desert Island. Usually WHOM and WSYY were in constant battle for the dial at top of mountain in the parking areas. Several times since June I have had mostly solid WHOM at the peak (A little interference from "Magic 94.9" Wolfville, Nova Scotia) WHOM stayed solid just about all the way down the peak and into Bar harbor, on east side of mountain. There were only a couple of north-facing shadows were I could even barely pick up WSYY, where they used to be dominant. Keep an eye on the Magic City News internet page for latest in the legal developments on WSYY. Good excuse to take a day trip up there to investigate for myself. Last hiked up to their tower on Hammond Ridge a couple summers ago. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor Maine From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Sep 16 19:45:46 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Sep 16 19:45:49 2004 Subject: Infinity Broadcasting Selling Mailing Lists? Message-ID: <200409161945.AA4026073388@mail.ttlc.net> Anybody who signed up for Oldies 103's Listener Club may be in for a big plate of SPAM. They have provided the e-mail addresses of their members to Blue Hornet E-Mail Marketing Solutions. This company sends e-mails to the list members under the guise of it being from WBZ i.e. the displayed Sender Address is "Oldies 103.3" but the actual e-mail address is TheSavingZone@priceanditem.com I find this kind of marketing deceitful and repugnant. They've just lost a list member and possibly a listener, too. From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Sep 16 19:54:28 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Thu Sep 16 19:54:33 2004 Subject: Infinity Broadcasting Selling Mailing Lists? References: <200409161945.AA4026073388@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <001701c49c48$80ea8cd0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> I think that will cost the station more in p.r. harm than they will make. Dumb. From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Sep 16 19:58:30 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Sep 16 19:58:36 2004 Subject: Infinity Broadcasting Selling Mailing Lists? Message-ID: <200409161958.AA956891186@mail.ttlc.net> "Daniel Billings" wrote: >I think that will cost the station more in p.r. harm than they will >make. >Dumb. I also just noted that Oldies 103.3's Privacy Policy (as posted on their Web Site) prohibits people from e-mailing them using similar tactics. They say (and I quote, for scholarly purposes only): "All email sent to us should be generated by the person in whose name the email account is registered. Email users shall not mask their identity by using a false name or another person's name or account." I would hold them to the same standard. From billo@shoreham.net Thu Sep 16 21:15:27 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Sep 16 21:15:39 2004 Subject: Alabama Getaway Message-ID: <000b01c49c53$d1abeaa0$0300a8c0@livingroom> Here's WPMI-TV's website http://www.wpmi.com/ Their towers fell prey to Ivan. They direct people to WJVC (UPN 44). Any info on how many radio/tv stations bought the farm? Bill O'Neill From pete@partnercomm.com Thu Sep 16 23:36:40 2004 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Thu Sep 16 23:36:43 2004 Subject: WSYY Jock In-Reply-To: <16945-414A1BDB-9578@storefull-3275.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Rod O'Connor wrote: > Speaking of WSYY tower. They seem to be broadcasting at lower power > lately, maybe even from another site or their old tower. Their signal > doesn't interfere with WHOM as much as it used to. I certainly hope it is just a lower power situation, as they have no other licensed FM facility with which to work. They have an old Harris 3-bay (tuned to 97.7) on their original tower that they have used a number of times when there have been troubles with the Hammond Ridge site. [clipped] > Keep an eye on the Magic City News internet page for latest in the legal > developments on WSYY. > > Good excuse to take a day trip up there to investigate for myself. Last > hiked up to their tower on Hammond Ridge a couple summers ago. Indeed - there is not much view from up there (trees are pretty thick). They don't get up there much either, as I had to point out to them that several of the bays of their 10-bay Shively antenna had come disconnected from the tower (and were thus being supported by the hardline). The concept of requiring one's entire business to rely upon the ability to continue renting a critical or irreplacable asset is a methodology I would recommend to all my competition. -Peter Peter Murray (N3IXY) currently on Amelia Island (Fernandina Beach, FL) confirming the radio geek in me by listening to satellite-delivered Spanish Language ballads on 30-watt (night power) 1570AM (WVOJ, Fernandina Beach) (RG - are you listening?) From scott@fybush.com Thu Sep 16 23:54:32 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Sep 16 23:53:54 2004 Subject: Credit where credit is due Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040916234827.0377da38@gwind.pair.com> Could the Curse of Susan Bickelhaupt finally be lifted? The Glob's Clea Simon published an article today purporting to be a survey of what's out there on the dial for commercial radio listeners in Boston, and while it was woefully incomplete on the AM dial (listing only 680, 850, 1030, 1060 and 1090 - and what's with the Glob's longtime fascination with WBIX's program listings, anyway?), it was remarkable in one respect: Not a single call letter or frequency was incorrect. Nor were any AM stations represented as "Wxxx-FM," or vice versa. Truly a red-letter day in Boston newspaper history. My hat is off to the Boring Broadsheet of Morrissey Boulevard for daring to rise to the absolute minimum level of competency that it's long striven for. We should all have such a remarkable committment to the most basic level of accuracy in print journalism from our local dailies. Huzzah, o Junior New York Times! Huzzah! Perhaps there is yet reason to believe that in our lifetimes we shall see TV listings that don't include both "WBPX(46)/WPXB(60)" and "WBPX(68)" in the same cable grid. But then, we can also hope that the Red Sox won't blow it down the stretch in late September. These are truly times when anything can happen, my friends. Hope is on the way. (In our next installment, we tear what's left of our hair out whilst examining the radio listings in the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle's Sunday TV book...) s From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Sep 17 08:11:33 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Sep 17 08:11:39 2004 Subject: WSYY Jock In-Reply-To: References: <16945-414A1BDB-9578@storefull-3275.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040917080846.01b68ec0@pop3.bit-net.com> Peter Murray wrote: >They don't get up there much either, as I had to point out to them that >several of the bays of their 10-bay Shively antenna had come disconnected >from the tower (and were thus being supported by the hardline). > >The concept of requiring one's entire business to rely upon the ability to >continue renting a critical or irreplacable asset is a methodology I would >recommend to all my competition. While the lack of maintenance is inexcusable, how realistic is it to expect a station to own their tower site? I would make sure I had an ironclad, guaranteed renewable lease though. From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Sep 17 12:20:24 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Sep 17 12:20:36 2004 Subject: Entercom flips NY talker to Air America Message-ID: <20040917162024.A5C7A397D@mprdmxin.myway.com> Entercom has changed the lineup of their WROC in Rochester, NY from conservative talkers to the Air America network. Some may feel the poor ratings they were getting were due to a weak signal, or some feel that Rochester is a liberal-leaning area and they'd prefer Franken to Ingraham/Hannity, etc. If Bush wins, the liberals will want to "vent their frustrations" and Air America would benefit. It probably would also benefit if Kerry wins (especially if the Congress is still marginally controlled by the Republicans). It's a good guess that the '08 presidential campaign could begin as early as Nov 3 (Rudy vs. Hillary?) and talk radio, on either side, will be there to deal with it. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From ka1mvk@hotmail.com Fri Sep 17 12:27:48 2004 From: ka1mvk@hotmail.com (Andy Soule) Date: Fri Sep 17 12:27:53 2004 Subject: WSYY Jock References: <16945-414A1BDB-9578@storefull-3275.bay.webtv.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20040917080846.01b68ec0@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: Trouble is , those pesky leases generally require that you make the lease payments on a regular basis. Owning is great if you can. Real estate helps a lot when a potential buyer is trying to find financing. I think WSYY is leasing their AM/Studio site as well. All they have is a license, a bunch of junk, and the morning man will be in the federal pen until 2006. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:11 AM Subject: Re: WSYY Jock > While the lack of maintenance is inexcusable, how realistic is it to expect > a station to own their tower site? I would make sure I had an ironclad, > guaranteed renewable lease though. > > > > From rjoc@webtv.net Fri Sep 17 12:37:16 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Fri Sep 17 12:37:25 2004 Subject: Latest WDEA-1370 news Message-ID: <27106-414B12BC-762@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net> For more on the WDEA-1370 saga check out today"s "On the Air" column by Andrew Neff in the sports section of this morning's Bangor Daily News. go to www.bangornews.com Scroll down left menu to Sports, then down to "on the air" .. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From scott@fybush.com Fri Sep 17 17:06:33 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Sep 17 17:05:55 2004 Subject: Entercom flips NY talker to Air America In-Reply-To: <20040917162024.A5C7A397D@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040917170249.026d6818@gwind.pair.com> At 12:20 PM 9/17/2004 -0400, Bob Nelson wrote: >Entercom has changed the lineup of their WROC in Rochester, NY >from conservative talkers to the Air America network. Some may feel >the poor ratings they were getting were due to a weak signal, or >some feel that Rochester is a liberal-leaning area and they'd >prefer Franken to Ingraham/Hannity, etc. My analysis, from just down the street: WROC had been doing the Ingraham/O'Reilly/Hannity thing for about a year and a half without making a dent in the ratings against the big gun of WHAM (with Rush, Savage and 50 kW against WROC's 1 kW signal). The signal certainly wasn't WROC's only problem, but trying to make a go of things against WHAM with essentially the same format was an uphill battle and then some. No doubt Entercom looked at the numbers Air America's been doing in markets that are similar demographically (Portland, Oregon for instance) and saw a niche. All you need is 2 or 3 percent of the audience, after all. Is Rochester especially liberal? Not really. The city, like any big northeastern city, votes reliably Democratic year after year, but Monroe County surrounding it is majority Republican and the outlying counties are solidly Republican. s From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Sep 17 17:09:53 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Sep 17 17:10:00 2004 Subject: Credit where credit is due Message-ID: <20040917210953.5AF73CA094@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >From: Scott Fybush To: bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Credit where credit is due > > The Glob's Clea Simon published an article today purporting to be a survey > of what's out there on the dial for commercial radio listeners in Boston, The Glob? > (In our next installment, we tear what's left of our hair out whilst > examining the radio listings in the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle's > Sunday TV book...) > > s > Hey, at least they PUBLISH radio listings; the Sunday Glob, er Globe discontinued same several months ago. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Sep 17 21:08:56 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Sep 17 21:09:04 2004 Subject: Infinity Broadcasting Selling Mailing Lists? References: <200409161958.AA956891186@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <007a01c49d1c$13789050$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rogerkirk" To: "Daniel Billings" ; "BRI" Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Infinity Broadcasting Selling Mailing Lists? > I also just noted that Oldies 103.3's Privacy Policy (as posted on > their Web Site) What does the policy say about selling e-mail addresses? From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Sep 17 21:11:47 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Sep 17 21:11:54 2004 Subject: WSYY Jock References: <16945-414A1BDB-9578@storefull-3275.bay.webtv.net><6.0.3.0.0.20040917080846.01b68ec0@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <009001c49d1c$784e2990$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> I don't see how anyone could make money with that station. The only business in the area is forest products and tourism. Neither are likely advertisers for a local radio station. From fox893@yahoo.com Fri Sep 17 22:20:29 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Sat Sep 18 01:47:18 2004 Subject: WSYY Jock In-Reply-To: <009001c49d1c$784e2990$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <20040918022029.50047.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> On forest products, I agree... However, tourism is a completely different story. The advertising dollars from the tourism industry is what allows the Mt Washington Valley to have two fully staffed radio stations.... Not counting the citadel owned flamethrowers on top of Mt Washington(WHOM and WPKQ). --- Daniel Billings wrote: > I don't see how anyone could make money with that > station. The only > business in the area is forest products and tourism. > Neither are likely > advertisers for a local radio station. > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Sep 18 03:16:29 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Sep 18 03:16:38 2004 Subject: Entercom flips NY talker to Air America Message-ID: <20040918071629.30CFC12D19@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>WROC had been doing the Ingraham/O'Reilly/Hannity thing for about a year and a half without making a dent in the ratings against the big gun of WHAM Wonder if WHAM will pick up any of them? Hannity is #2 nationwide; Savage #4 (in Talkers survey). Could be they (those shows) just need to be on a stronger signal, indeed. >>Is Rochester especially liberal? Not really. The city, like any big northeastern city, votes reliably Democratic year after year, but Monroe County surrounding it is majority Republican and the outlying counties are solidly Republican. Was kinda going by what was said in a radio-info post. Air America could be interesting with the right hosts; heard a few minutes of Ed Schultz via tape (someone sent me) and it didn't seem too bad. I don't know if I could take Franken--his voice and sense of humor don't connect with me...As I said before Stephanie Miller wasn't bad. She's not officially on AA but some stations might consider running her (9-noon ET). _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From steveord@bit-net.com Sat Sep 18 10:22:46 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Sep 18 10:22:50 2004 Subject: WSYY Jock In-Reply-To: <20040918022029.50047.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> References: <009001c49d1c$784e2990$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <20040918022029.50047.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040918101910.01ba7ec0@pop3.bit-net.com> At 10:20 PM 9/17/2004, Cooper Fox wrote: >On forest products, I agree... However, tourism is a >completely different story. The advertising dollars >from the tourism industry is what allows the Mt >Washington Valley to have two fully staffed radio >stations.... I'd guess there are a lot more tourists in Conway, N.H. than Millinocket, Me. All the outlet stores pretty much guarantee year-round traffic. It's also nowhere near as far in the boonies either. From billo@shoreham.net Sat Sep 18 10:45:21 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Sep 18 10:45:28 2004 Subject: Entercom flips NY talker to Air America In-Reply-To: <20040918071629.30CFC12D19@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <000001c49d8e$20d89c00$0300a8c0@livingroom> Bob Nelson: > Wonder if WHAM will pick up any of them? Hannity is #2 nationwide; > Savage #4 (in Talkers survey). Could be they (those shows) > just need to be on a stronger signal, indeed. Hannity is not heard in the Burlington-Plattsburgh market, although you can catch him on WGY (810 Schennectady) but not all that well as you approach 800 kHz up north, eh? WSNO (1450 Barre) carries him on their local signal. Laura Ingraham is now carried on WVMT (620 Burlington) up against Rush on WXZO (96.7 Willsboro)//WEAV (960 Plattsb.) Hannity could easily blow away Don (They've got that middle market sound down real well) and Mike. He'd be up against Carr (WVMT) and give the demo an alternative. Interestingly, Air America is tanking here, albeit on a weak Burlington area signal (1070?), amidst a dog-leg to the left liberal constituency. Why? Less a matter of philosophy, more about just poorly executed talk radio, hands down. If asked, I'd say that Hannity in the Burl/Platts market would be a no-brainer. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Sat Sep 18 10:50:07 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Sep 18 10:50:03 2004 Subject: WSYY Jock In-Reply-To: <20040918022029.50047.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000101c49d8e$ca872d70$0300a8c0@livingroom> Cooper writes: > On forest products, I agree... However, tourism is a > completely different story. The advertising dollars > from the tourism industry is what allows the Mt > Washington Valley to have two fully staffed radio > stations.... Not counting the citadel owned > flamethrowers on top of Mt Washington(WHOM and WPKQ). Agreed. One thing you can set your watch by in the tourism market is change of seasons. This season is in the tank? Wait a QTR. Most are pre-buys, anyway. I've wondered why national or regional buyers don't exploit tourist-market stations (well-executed ones) more. Out-of-staters can hear spots for products also available back in their home market and the message keeps on comin' even while they are de-stressing, some downtime, credit cards dancing in the streets. Plus, the rates are a paucity of what their larger, home markets can garner. Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Sep 18 11:15:56 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Sep 18 11:16:01 2004 Subject: WSYY Jock References: <20040918022029.50047.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004601c49d92$65af7480$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Fox" To: Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:20 PM Subject: Re: WSYY Jock > On forest products, I agree... However, tourism is a > completely different story. The advertising dollars > from the tourism industry is what allows the Mt > Washington Valley to have two fully staffed radio > stations.... Not counting the citadel owned > flamethrowers on top of Mt Washington(WHOM and WPKQ). Millinocket does not have the same kind of tourism industry as found in the Mt. Washington Valley. There is very little retail -- it is the state park and lodging facilities. From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Sep 18 12:21:26 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Sep 18 12:21:39 2004 Subject: Entercom flips NY talker to Air America Message-ID: <20040918162126.9D994399C@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Hannity is not heard in the Burlington-Plattsburgh market I thought he was on 1420 WRSA in St. Albans (sister station of AA affiliate WTWK 1070)--well, maybe that's what Hannity's site said. Also, on 100000watts.com it says: (WRSA 1420) Format: Talk Shows: Doug Stephan, Dr Laura, Mike Gallagher, Sean Hannity (but maybe he's gone from there?) When I was up there in August, I had 1420 on as I drove through St. Albans (and saw their studios on Main Street); the country station they also own (WLFE 102.3) had been knocked off the air temporarily due to a storm so the country morning host was sitting in on WRSA with their morning host. >>Laura Ingraham is now carried on WVMT (620 Burlington) up against Rush on WXZO (96.7) When I was there, she was on 10 am-1 pm (the "9 am" hour she did was tape delayed till 12:20 pm or so, after "Paul Harvey News", and that's what their site says as well. If she's in those hours, she's only competing against Rush's first hour. >>Hannity could easily blow away ...Don and Mike. He'd be up against Carr(WVMT) and give the demo an alternative. Surprising the #2-rated national host isn't on 96.7/960! Yes, he really should be on. >> Interestingly, Air America is tanking here, albeit on a weak Burlington area signal (1070?), amidst a dog-leg to the left liberal constituency. Why? Less a matter of philosophy, more about just poorly executed talk radio, hands down As I've said I only heard a bit of Franken when I was up there but didn't quite get into it. A tape trader in Southern Cal. sent me some KLSD (radio to drop acid by?) from San Diego and the few minutes I've heard of Ed Schulz (so far) aren't all that bad...compared to Al. This time it was a liberal host kinda talking over a conservative caller, which is not what I'm used to...but at least both sides getting on I guess :) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Sep 18 13:22:44 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Sep 18 13:22:52 2004 Subject: Boston Herald Reports WRNI-AM To Be Sold Message-ID: <20040918172244.AD8E73384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Today's (09/18) Boston Herald, in a short item appearing within its business section, reports that WBUR plans to sell its Providence, RI outlet WRNI-AM 1290. Jane Cristo is quoted as saying that WBUR did not intend to be an NPR operator in the Ocean State for the long term, and she believes its time for an organization there to carry on what WBUR started. She does NOT rule out a sale to a commercial broadcaster. The item stated that WRNI has a cumulative audience of 35,000 people in the Providence metro; nothing in the story about the repeater on 1230 in Westerly. Could that become another totally WBUR-fed satellite? -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Sep 18 21:58:26 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Sep 18 21:59:22 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040918214247.028f11b0@pop.registeredsite.com> First, a humble request: please, please, please don't turn a serious question into partisan bickering. I have a situation I want your opinion about, and I fear it's gonna quickly deteriorate into Republicans versus Democrats, but that is NOT what I'm asking about. So with that having been said, try to reply as radio people first and fans of a candidate second. Thanks. An announcer friend of mine in another market (not anywhere near New England) works part-time at an album rock station, and he asked me what I thought about Springsteen coming out in support of Kerry. I told him that musicians historically have supported candidates, both right wing and left wing, over the years, and I named him a few. He then asked me what I would think about a program director or group owner pulling all the Springsteen songs because that PD or owner was opposed to Kerry. I said I thought that would be dumb-- I mean, you may not like his politics, but Springsteen is a core artist at a lot of stations. My friend said when artists come out in favour of a candidate, it can polarize the audience and get people upset. I said by that logic, we'd have to pull all sorts of artists from our playlist, and what would that accomplish? He said he was certain that Springsteen was about to get pulled from his station, and anecdotally, he hadn't had any Springsteen to play in a few days. Neither of us was sure whether this was just a coincidence (he's a jock, so he doesn't see the master playlists or know what got programmed for the week) but I thought I'd ask you programmeers and jocks. Would you pull the music of an artist just because you don't like his or her political views? From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Sep 18 22:11:48 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Sep 18 22:11:52 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040918214247.028f11b0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <009a01c49dee$0514e810$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 9:58 PM Subject: music and politics on radio > Would you pull the music of an artist just because you don't like his or > her political views? No. But I might pull an artist who has become controversial and is turning off listeners. I would do what would get the most listeners and make the most money. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Sep 18 22:50:24 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Sep 18 22:51:21 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <009a01c49dee$0514e810$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040918214247.028f11b0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040918224835.02a404c8@pop.registeredsite.com> I asked-- >>Would you pull the music of an artist just because you don't like his or >>her political views? Dan B replied-- >No. But I might pull an artist who has become controversial and is >turning off listeners. I would do what would get the most listeners and >make the most money. Good point. But how would you determine that an artist has become too controversial? Do you think the average person thinks about the politics of musicians, or does the average person just wanna hear the hits? From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Sep 18 22:58:08 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Sep 18 22:58:12 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040918214247.028f11b0@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040918224835.02a404c8@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <00a401c49df4$7e577b60$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Daniel Billings" Cc: Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 10:50 PM Subject: Re: music and politics on radio > Good point. But how would you determine that an artist has become too > controversial? Do you think the average person thinks about the politics > of musicians, or does the average person just wanna hear the hits? I think the average person just wants to hear the hits. But things sometimes take on a life of their own. There was the Cat Stevens thing a few years ago. The Dixie Chicks deal. Right now the gay groups are all worked up about the anti-gay lyrics of a Jamaican guy whose name escapes me. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Sep 18 23:17:17 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Sep 18 23:18:09 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <00a401c49df4$7e577b60$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040918214247.028f11b0@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040918224835.02a404c8@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040918231517.028fc610@pop.registeredsite.com> >Dan B wrote-- >I think the average person just wants to hear the hits. But things >sometimes take on a life of their own. There was the Cat Stevens thing a >few years ago. The Dixie Chicks deal. Right now the gay groups are all >worked up about the anti-gay lyrics of a Jamaican guy whose name escapes me. So how do we avoid letting a small group of rightwingers, leftwingers, gays, straights or whoever makes the most angry phone calls drive what we program? It seems that some stations have become sooo reactive that the moment they get a couple of upset callers, the song gets pulled. Is this just the continued over-reaction to the Janet Jackson/FCC crackdown? From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Sep 18 23:45:28 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Sep 18 23:44:28 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040918224835.02a404c8@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <009a01c49dee$0514e810$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <414CC898.28204.C7ACC7@localhost> On 18 Sep 2004 at 22:50, Donna Halper wrote: > Good point. But how would you determine that an artist has become too > controversial? Do you think the average person thinks about the politics > of musicians, or does the average person just wanna hear the hits? Certain performers have been active in political causes, and sometimes it has affected their popularity as performers and sometimes it hasn't. Groucho Marx was a political liberal and was active in unionizing actors, but that never affected his popularity. So far, Martin Sheen's liberal causes don't seem to have affected his popularity or that of "The West Wing." Others were blacklisted because of alleged left-wing connections, sometimes very tenuous. Politics seem to be more polarized than I can ever remember -- even during the Vietnam war, Republicans and Democrats were able to act in bipartisan fashion in Washington much more than now. So I suppose all the more people are unwilling to like a performer with whose politics they disagree. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From tklaundry@juno.com Sun Sep 19 00:22:02 2004 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Sun Sep 19 00:21:38 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio Message-ID: <20040919.002203.-904995.0.tklaundry@juno.com> In today's radio it does matter what a group owner decides to do in a situation like this. Back in the old days if a station owner didn't want to support the political views of an artist and pulled the recordings it wasn't really a big deal because markets had more than one station all owned by different people...diversity...not a bad word. Anecdotally I recall WLLH pulling a couple of songs during the Vietnam War, even though they were number 1, because they were too "emotional" but I was still able to hear them on other stations in the area. Today those individually owned stations are rare so we are talking groups of stations, regional or national in nature. I like Bruce Springstein...I also like Ted Nugent...if a "group" decides to pull one or the other because of the political beliefs of either artist, then that slippery slope that I talked about a few years ago has been greased and we are sliding down it. Who cares what an artists politics are? You like the song or you don't! If there is any other consideration then the rules need to be revisited ASAP! From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Sep 19 10:59:29 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Sep 19 10:59:41 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio Message-ID: <20040919145929.F06A539C6@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Who cares what an artists politics are? You like the song or you don't! For awhile some country stations pulled the Dixie Chicks because Natalie Maines said "you know, we're ashamed to be from Texas" because the prez was from there. (She said it overseas; care to say that in front of a crowd in Dallas?) People are entitled to their opinions, and the consumers are welcome to either buy or boycott as a result. Country stations later wound up re-instating the Chicks, though (and some liberal-leaning public radio stations actually added the Chicks to their playlist during the controversy, like the folk show at Kent State's WKSU). Meanwhile, talk host Laura Ingraham wrote a book called "Shut Up And Sing" which, in part, takes to task musicians and actors who inject their politics into a concert, etc. What if you like a musician and pay money to go to a concert and they launch into a political diatribe for 10 minutes (OK, I'm exaggerating) and you disagree? You have every right to walk out and perhaps not buy their releases anymore (though in many cases people probably agree with an artist's music AND politics; most REM fans are probably anti-Bush, as lead singer Michael Stipe is). Ingraham's attitude is: look, you entertain us and leave the politics to the experts. Then again, I'm sure many conservatives don't mind if someone like Charlie Daniels gets up on stage and sings "This Ain't No Rag, It's A Flag" or "In America" and talks about supporting the war...though I guess if a concert were promoted as also being a "support the troops and President" rally, people would at least know what they're in for. Who knows. >From the Contra-Costa Times (SF area): --- And speaking of politics ... Hynde is a tad anti-war. She's anti lots of stuff, and isn't afraid to growl about them all every time the music stops. "Have we gone to war yet?" she asked sarcastically, early on. "We (expletive) deserve to get bombed. Bring it on." Later she yelled, "Let's get rid of all the economic (expletive) this country represents! Bring it on, I hope the Muslims win!" When a crowd member responded to that inflammatory statement, Hynde stormed the mic, roaring, "Shut your face!" Glaring, she held out the mic toward the fan as longtime drummer Martin Chambers stood up behind her, ready to rumble. "You come up to the mic and say something, smart guy," she snarled. "What do you want to talk about?" The music nearly became an afterthought for Hynde's issues. ("Did I tell you why I hate sports? Because I hate winners and people who have to win all the time.") (end) Note: (me again)--it's unknown how much money Hynde or the Pretenders make out of the use of "My City Was Gone" as the theme to Rush Limbaugh's show :) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From billo@shoreham.net Sun Sep 19 12:37:59 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Sep 19 12:37:53 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <20040919.002203.-904995.0.tklaundry@juno.com> Message-ID: <000001c49e67$06bf7fd0$0300a8c0@livingroom> Dave Faneuf writes: > I like Bruce Springstein...I also like Ted Nugent...if a > "group" decides > to pull one or the other because of the political beliefs of either > artist, then that slippery slope that I talked about a few > years ago has > been greased and we are sliding down it. Group ownership affords the owners to impact boycotts on a far-reaching scale. I just hope that Boycotts can work both ways. If, for example, Clear Channel bounces an artist off of its 2,875,100 radio stations it is conceivable (one can only hope) that CC can be boycotted, too; they'd nix any socio-political agenda faster than you can say "voice tracking." Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Sun Sep 19 12:39:41 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Sep 19 12:39:38 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <414CC898.28204.C7ACC7@localhost> Message-ID: <000101c49e67$43a36ba0$0300a8c0@livingroom> Joe Ross: So I suppose all the more people are unwilling to > like a performer with whose > politics they disagree. The customer is always right, or left, or, oh, nevermind. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Sun Sep 19 12:42:22 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Sep 19 12:42:17 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040918231517.028fc610@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <000201c49e67$a378a770$0300a8c0@livingroom> > So how do we avoid letting a small group of rightwingers, > leftwingers, > gays, straights or whoever makes the most angry phone calls > drive what we > program? It seems that some stations have become sooo > reactive that the > moment they get a couple of upset callers, the song gets > pulled. Is this > just the continued over-reaction to the Janet Jackson/FCC crackdown? Hmm, how about a reemergence of some public affairs elements to the format clock where these factors are actually brought front and center. Remember when WBCN Boston was politically responsive? They didn't relegate such topics just to Sunday morning. If the medium is the message, we're only getting half of it. Bill O'Neill From tklaundry@juno.com Sun Sep 19 13:03:29 2004 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Sun Sep 19 13:05:29 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio Message-ID: <20040919.100421.5883.707312@webmail06.nyc.untd.com> -- "Bob Nelson" wrote: For awhile some country stations pulled the Dixie Chicks because Natalie Maines said "you know, we're ashamed to be from Texas" because the prez was from there. If station groups start going down that road and banning artists from the air because of on stage or off stage comments, the next step is song content. I'm sure all those old protest songs offend "someone"...you could even make an argument that "Sweet Home Alabama" promotes racism, so no more Skynnard? It's a road best not traveled. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Sep 19 13:16:51 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Sep 19 13:16:57 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio References: <20040919.100421.5883.707312@webmail06.nyc.untd.com> Message-ID: <004c01c49e6c$742058b0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Faneuf" To: Cc: ; Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 1:03 PM Subject: RE: music and politics on radio > If station groups start going down that road and banning artists from the > air because of on stage or off stage comments, the next step is song > content. I'm sure all those old protest songs offend "someone"...you > could even make an argument that "Sweet Home Alabama" promotes racism, so > no more Skynnard? > It's a road best not traveled. It is interesting to note that both groups on the left and right engage in this conduct. I mentioned here recently stories on NPR on gay groups trying to get sponsors and venues to not support performances by Jamaican musician Beanie Man due to anti-gay lyrics in some of his songs. The stories did not mention radio and I do not know if he gets much radio play in this country. The thing that stood out to me in the NPR stories was there was no mention of free speech, artistic freedom, silencing of minority views, ect. that came up during the Dixie Chicks controversy. Now I do not mean to equate what Maines said to this guys lyrics but its is interesting that artistic freedom tends to be more respected depending upon whose ox is being gored. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Sep 19 13:39:34 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Sep 19 13:40:30 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <004c01c49e6c$742058b0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <20040919.100421.5883.707312@webmail06.nyc.untd.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040919132754.02aeddc0@pop.registeredsite.com> Dan B wrote-- >The thing that stood out to me in the NPR stories was there was no mention >of free speech, artistic freedom, silencing of minority views, ect. that >came up during the Dixie Chicks controversy. Now I do not mean to equate >what Maines said to this guys lyrics but its is interesting that artistic >freedom tends to be more respected depending upon whose ox is being gored. A couple of things. First, using one feature to judge an entire network or station isn't the best measurement. I've found NPR is starting to lean much more moderate and even a tad conservative on *some* of its reporting-- it's no longer accurate to assume NPR is left-wing all the time. This is based on my listening to a number of features and reports, which now include several conservative commentators who are now regular pundits for NPR (and by the way, I have no problem with including *all* views on NPR; I think they are unfairly stereotyped as left-wing... I find them left-wing only on certain issues, such as being anti-the Iraq war and anti-Israel; and it's pretty clear they don't worship Mr Bush, yet their reporting on him has been generally balanced and even positive sometimes, making some people wonder if NPR is making a concerted effort to speak well of him so congress won't cut their funding!) But Dan makes the point I was trying to make when I started this thread-- should program directors and owners apply the "ideology test" to music-- if a singer has a pro-Bush and the war record, it gets played, but an anti-Bush and anti-war record doesn't? (And vice versa, of course.) Again, let's not drift into a political debate-- this is a programming issue. I consulted a station where the owner refused to play any songs by artists he felt were "anti-American"-- and I found that a puzzling standard, since I think we in the media stir this stuff up much more than John or Jane Average listener. And finally, regarding "Sweet Home Alabama", I am not sure the song is racist-- it's an answer song to Neil Young's "Southern Man" which accused Alabamans of being bigoted yahoos who support lynching, and Skynyrd was simply defending their state and trying to refute what Young had accused them of. From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Sep 19 13:52:10 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Sep 19 13:52:19 2004 Subject: More on WRNI-AM Sale Message-ID: <20040919175210.88492C610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> At least two newspapers south of Boston have weighed in on the sale of WRNI-AM 1290 in Providence. One, the Providence Journal, requires registration. The other, South Coast Today offers easy access. So here's their URL: http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/09-04/09-19-04/b04sr712.htm -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From tklaundry@juno.com Sun Sep 19 13:51:43 2004 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Sun Sep 19 13:53:49 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio Message-ID: <20040919.105242.5216.702382@webmail23.nyc.untd.com> Donna wrote: And finally, regarding "Sweet Home Alabama", I am not sure the song is racist-- it's an answer song to Neil Young's "Southern Man" which accused Alabamans of being bigoted yahoos who support lynching. I didn't say it was a racist song, I said a case could be made that it is a racist song and since we're talking about perceptions that's why I used that example. But my point is I disagree with groups, or even individual owners (the few that are left) making music programming decisions on the politics of the artist. Either conservative or liberal. dave From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Sep 19 15:04:10 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Sep 19 15:04:18 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <20040919145929.F06A539C6@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20040919145929.F06A539C6@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <200409191904.i8JJ4AKo040737@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Note: (me again)--it's unknown how much money Hynde or the > Pretenders make out of the use of "My City Was Gone" as the theme to > Rush Limbaugh's show :) There was in fact a big lawsuit about this at one point. My vague recollection is that Hynde was told that she had no control over the licensing of that song, having signed those rights away with the recording contract. I believe this is standard practice for record companies and has been for many, many years. (In the European system of "moral rights" this would not be the case in many countries, since moral rights are inalienable. I don't know how those countries balance the artistic rights and contractual obligations of the various parties.) While I detest Ms. Ingraham, I am sympathetic to her position; I, too, go to a concert for music and not for political polemics. (Of course, in some case, the music is the polemic -- but that's OK by me.) On the other hand, I can find some sympathy in my heart for the artists as well: if one truly believes in a cause with moral certitude, and one has the attention of a substantial audience, even if only for an hour or two, would it be right not to use that opportunity to reach those members of one's audience who are not yet committed? Is this really any different from musicians supporting a charity or some other non-political cause? On the gripping hand, I cannot imagine changing my views simply on the say-so of someone famous. I do not think it is smart for music-oriented radio stations to pay much attention to the political views of musicians. If station ownership does not support those views, the best way to call attention to them is to make an issue of it in the playlist. Doing so may satisfy some foamers, but (particularly if it is reported in local media) may also offend many previously satisfied listeners. It's not worth the risk. Better to keep political statements in the political arena. -GAWollman From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Sep 19 15:13:09 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Sep 19 15:14:04 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <200409191904.i8JJ4AKo040737@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <20040919145929.F06A539C6@mprdmxin.myway.com> <20040919145929.F06A539C6@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040919151050.02b0ab30@pop.registeredsite.com> >Garrett wrote-- >I do not think it is smart for music-oriented radio stations to pay >much attention to the political views of musicians. If station >ownership does not support those views, the best way to call attention >to them is to make an issue of it in the playlist. Doing so may >satisfy some foamers, but (particularly if it is reported in local >media) may also offend many previously satisfied listeners. It's not >worth the risk. Better to keep political statements in the political >arena. But aren't some formats, such as country and album rock, often very political? I recall from my days in AOR that we often played anti-war songs during the Viet Nam era. It was very common at the majority of album rockers to do so. And if I had worked at a country station back then, I would have expected to play patriotic songs, because those were the hits. But I am not sure owners or programmers should make that decision for their listeners-- aren't listeners capable of accepting or rejecting a song, even if it has a controversial message? From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Sep 19 15:39:09 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Sep 19 15:39:19 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio Message-ID: <20040919193909.C214386AE9@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >From: Donna Halper >Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:13:09 -0400 >To: Garrett Wollman >Subject: RE: music and politics on radio > > >Garrett wrote-- > >I do not think it is smart for music-oriented radio stations to pay > >much attention to the political views of musicians. If station > >ownership does not support those views, the best way to call attention > >to them is to make an issue of it in the playlist. Doing so may > >satisfy some foamers, but (particularly if it is reported in local > >media) may also offend many previously satisfied listeners. It's not > >worth the risk. Better to keep political statements in the political > >arena. > But aren't some formats, such as country and album rock, often very > political? I recall from my days in AOR that we often played anti-war > songs during the Viet Nam era. It was very common at the majority of album > rockers to do so. And if I had worked at a country station back then, I > would have expected to play patriotic songs, because those were the > hits. But I am not sure owners or programmers should make that decision > for their listeners-- aren't listeners capable of accepting or rejecting a > song, even if it has a controversial message? > Another country heard from...there has been a bit of a trend in recent years for new operas to be based on recent events that have political overtones. The best-known examples have been works by the living (I know because I met him last March) American composer John Adams. He has written operas entitled "Nixon in China" (performed last season in Boston) and "The Death of Klinghoffer", based on the Achille Lauro massacre (NOT performed in Boston yet.) He is now working on an opera based on the World War II Manhattan Project that developed the atomic bomb. Another new opera called "The Handmaid's Tale" by contemporary Canadian composer Puol Ruden (yes Poul, not Paul) deals with a future dystopian USA led by a fundamentalist President who rides roughshod over his opposition. Opera companies are in fact willing to produce such works in order to appear more "relevant" and they have done surprisingly well at the box office. "Nixon" and "Klinghoffer" have been recorded and some principally public radio stations have played them. If 'W' is elected in his own right, don't be surprised if some American company performs "The Handmaids' Tale" just to stir things up. (If it's in Boston, I wonder if Joyce Kulhawick will breathlessly cover it?). -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Sep 19 15:53:17 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Sep 19 15:53:26 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio Message-ID: <20040919195317.CEEE33384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Garrett Wollman Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:51:49 -0400 (EDT) To: "Laurence Glavin" Subject: RE: music and politics on radio < said: > Another new opera called "The Handmaid's Tale" by contemporary > Canadian composer Puol Ruden (yes Poul, not Paul) deals with a > future dystopian USA led by a fundamentalist President who rides > roughshod over his opposition. Presumably based on the famous novel of the same name by contemporary Canadian novelist Margaret Atwood. -GAWollman -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Sep 19 15:55:06 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Sep 19 15:55:21 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio Message-ID: <20040919195506.949E63384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> >From: Garrett Wollman >Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:51:49 -0400 (EDT) >To: "Laurence Glavin" >Subject: RE: music and politics on radio < said: > Another new opera called "The Handmaid's Tale" by contemporary > Canadian composer Puol Ruden (yes Poul, not Paul) deals with a > future dystopian USA led by a fundamentalist President who rides > roughshod over his opposition. >Presumably based on the famous novel of the same name by contemporary >Canadian novelist Margaret Atwood. >-GAWollman As they say in some parts of Canada, yes...other parts: oui. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Sun Sep 19 16:52:29 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Sun Sep 19 16:52:42 2004 Subject: Entercom flips NY talker to Air America In-Reply-To: <000001c49d8e$20d89c00$0300a8c0@livingroom> Message-ID: <20040919205229.76656.qmail@web52605.mail.yahoo.com> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:45:21 Bill O'Neill wrote: > Interestingly, Air America is > tanking here, albeit on a weak Burlington area > signal (1070?), amidst a > dog-leg to the left liberal constituency. Why? Less > a matter of philosophy, > more about just poorly executed talk radio, hands > down. Let's not forget too, that AM 1070 (WZBZ is the last calls I can remember for that frequency) is a 5000 watt daytimer with a horrible signal even in its COL of Plattsburgh, NY. Regardless of program quality on Air America (I have not yet listened to any of their programming, so I cannot comment on that), how do you compete in a radio market with such a weak signal that barely even covers your primary money market (Burlington VT 20 air miles away) during the daytime?? Even if AM 1070 was airing Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, I still think the station would be in the toilet ratingswise because you can't even get them at all critical advertising hours of the day (especially during winter, when they sometimes have to sign off during afternoon drive time). So, I would have to disagree with your theory that Air America is tanking in Burlington VT / Plattsburgh NY due primarily to poor programming Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY SUNY Plattsburgh Alumni __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Sep 19 17:20:08 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Sep 19 17:20:20 2004 Subject: More on WRNI-AM Sale Message-ID: <20040919212008.047AA12D31@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>At least two newspapers south of Boston have weighed in on the sale of WRNI-AM 1290 in Providence. More on the potential sale (the 1230 in Westerly is also involved; donors are angry) from today's Globe: http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode_island/articles/2004/09/19/bu_says_its_putting_ri_station_on_market/ _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Sep 19 17:30:29 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Sep 19 17:30:42 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio Message-ID: <20040919213029.6848512D5D@mprdmxin.myway.com> >> My vague recollection is that Hynde was told that she had no control over the licensing of that song, having signed those rights away with the recording contract. Someone on Free Republic mentioned that her parents were a bit more to the right than she and were perhaps Limbaugh listeners so she reluctantly agreed to let it be. Not sure if it's true. >> I, too go to a concert for music and not for political polemics. Though I'm sure there are concerts for certain candidates (or against certain positions) like the Rock For Change tour, and it's hoped that everyone who attends know what they're in for. They mostly likely agree with the candidate or issue. I think the Rock for Change tour doesn't necessarily endorse Kerry, but it's against Bush. (Leaving room for those who might wish to vote for Nader, for example, to support it.) Yes, nothing wrong with artists feeling passionately about candidates or causes. Though conservatives had to chuckle when Barbra Streisand's website turned into a political blog of sorts (she mispelled the name of one-time candidate Dick Gephardt, for one thing). Some fans of Pearl Jam were outraged when the lead singer burned an effigy of Bush on stage. They walked out. Lest we think that rock (etc.) musicians are only left-wing, there are some on the other side, including Ted Nugent ("Kill It Then Grill It Cookbook"--he's no vegan), Charlie Daniels, Toby Keith, and even some members of the Ramones and some punk bands are said to be right-wing. (The late Johnny Ramone was said to be conservative, as stated in the recent obit for him.) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Sep 19 17:36:59 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Sep 19 17:37:11 2004 Subject: music and politics (Johnny Cash weighs in) Message-ID: <20040919213659.D0E9012D40@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>The customer is always right, or left, or, oh nevermind I'll call down a resident of Country Heaven to comment: "Hello...I'm Johnny Cash..." "There once was a musical troupe A pickin' singin' folk group They sang the mountain ballads And the folk songs of our land "They were long on musical ability Folks thought they would go far But political incompatibility led to their downfall "Well, the one on the right was on the left And the one in the middle was on the right And the one on the left was in the middle And the guy in the rear was a Methodist "This musical aggregation toured the entire nation Singing the traditional ballads And the folk songs of our land They performed with great virtuosity And soon they were the rage But political animosity prevailed upon the stage "Well, the one on the right was on the left And the one in the middle was on the right And the one on the left was in the middle And the guy in the rear burned his driver's license "Well the curtain had ascended A hush fell on the crowd As thousands there were gathered to hear The folk songs of our land But they took their politics seriously And that night at the concert hall As the audience watched deliriously They had a free-for-all "Well, the one on the right was on the bottom And the one in the middle was on the top And the one on the left got a broken arm And the guy in the rear, said, "Oh dear" "Now this should be a lesson if you plan to start a folk group Don't go mixin' politics with the folk songs of our land Just work on harmony and diction Play your banjo well And if you have political convictions keep them to yourself "Now, the one on the left works in a bank And the one in the middle drives a truck The one on the right's an all-night deejay And the guy in the rear got drafted" _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From scott@fybush.com Sun Sep 19 17:54:50 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun Sep 19 17:54:14 2004 Subject: Entercom flips NY talker to Air America In-Reply-To: <20040919205229.76656.qmail@web52605.mail.yahoo.com> References: <000001c49d8e$20d89c00$0300a8c0@livingroom> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040919175136.02cad240@gwind.pair.com> >Let's not forget too, that AM 1070 (WZBZ is the last >calls I can remember for that frequency) is a 5000 >watt daytimer with a horrible signal even in its COL >of Plattsburgh, NY. Regardless of program quality on >Air America (I have not yet listened to any of their >programming, so I cannot comment on that), how do you >compete in a radio market with such a weak signal that >barely even covers your primary money market >(Burlington VT 20 air miles away) during the daytime?? Current calls, I think, are WTWK, and I agree with Matt that it's really not a player, signal-wise. Add into that the reality that Burlington is very much an FM market, with only one real player on the AM dial (WVMT), and it's not hard to see that the AA programming is only one factor in 1070's lack of influence in the market. WROC here in Rochester will try to use signal as an excuse if it doesn't do well, but its 1000 watt signal over Monroe County is WBZ-like compared with 1070's almost nonexistent signal over Burlington. s From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Sep 19 19:25:42 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Sep 19 19:25:47 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio References: <20040919.100421.5883.707312@webmail06.nyc.untd.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040919132754.02aeddc0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <002401c49e9f$fb4e0700$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Daniel Billings" Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 1:39 PM Subject: Re: music and politics on radio > A couple of things. First, using one feature to judge an entire network > or station isn't the best measurement. I was not doing that. I was just commenting on the coverage of that one issue. My point was that many of those who were outraged by the Chicks being banned would not be upset if Beanie Man was banned. I find NPR generally fair. Their story choices somewhat show a point of view but they usually take a balanced approach to those stories. In Maine, Maine Public Radio does a great job. Their state house reporter, Fred Bever, asks everyone tough questions. > And finally, regarding "Sweet Home Alabama", I am not sure the song is > racist-- it's an answer song to Neil Young's "Southern Man" which accused > Alabamans of being bigoted yahoos who support lynching, and Skynyrd was > simply defending their state and trying to refute what Young had accused > them of. I think I heard somewhere that the whole "southern man doesn't need him around anyhow" was meant to be tongue in cheek. Funny that Neil Young had a pretty conservative point of view in his song "Let's Roll" after 911. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Sep 19 19:30:42 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Sep 19 19:30:47 2004 Subject: music and politics (Johnny Cash weighs in) References: <20040919213659.D0E9012D40@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <004601c49ea0$ae231ff0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Of course, Johnny had lots of political songs. His views were often out of step with his more conservative listeners. Then there was the controversy over "Okie Muskego" and the song "the Pill." Country Music TV has a whole series on controversial country songs. From scott@fybush.com Sun Sep 19 21:31:23 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun Sep 19 21:30:45 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <002401c49e9f$fb4e0700$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <20040919.100421.5883.707312@webmail06.nyc.untd.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040919132754.02aeddc0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040919211139.02c5f468@gwind.pair.com> Dan Billings said: >I was not doing that. I was just commenting on the coverage of that one >issue. My point was that many of those who were outraged by the Chicks >being banned would not be upset if Beanie Man was banned. I think there's a very clear distinction there, though. If I understand right (and I openly admit not having heard a single Beanie Man song), the song lyrics themselves were advocating violence against gays. To my mind, that's a rather big leap from the issue Donna raises, which is what performers are advocating for outside the scope of their art - the Chicks speaking out from the stage in England, or Nuge's pro-hunting activism. I think that can be separated from each artist's music in a way that Beanie Man's viewpoint can't. And since I haven't weighed in yet on Donna's original question, my instinct as a programmer would be to err on the side of extreme caution when thinking about mixing politics and music radio. Unless I'm getting huge negatives directly from MY audience about a particular performer (and I continue to believe that much of the "backlash" against the Chicks originated not with country listeners but with talk show listeners being directed to call country stations and complain), I think the best policy for most music radio stations is to keep the politics and the music separate. If the object of today's commercial music radio stations is to reach the broadest audience possible, why risk turning off any portion of my potential listenership just to suit my own political whims? I know P1 country listeners who are lefty Democrats (and Jews, to boot), and I know modern rock fans who are archconservative Republicans. The music is the music, the politics are the politics, and I suspect 99% of the listener base would rather they be kept separate, thank you very much. What's more, you never know how much of your audience is offended by the mixing of politics and music but chooses to just turn the dial rather than calling to complain. (In my case, I find the flagwaving of Darryl Worley appalling, but I've never called up my local country station to say so; if "Have You Forgotten" comes on, I just turn elsewhere and don't come back to that button on the radio for a while. And speaking of that Darryl Worley song, I'm vaguely surprised that nobody's tried to use the lines it contains about "you say we'll get the ones behind Bin Laden, have you forgotten?" to make a political case in the other direction...) (An anecdote about the dangers of mixing anything other than music into a music format: my mother-in-law, who is Jewish, is visiting from Indiana this weekend, and we got to talking about radio there. She was complaining that one of the local "lite FM" stations now plays a handful of contemporary Christian tunes as part of its music mix every morning. While I appreciate the competitive pressure that led the station to do that - there's a noncomm FM in town that's playing very "lite FM" sounding contemporary Christian music with formatics that barely differ from the secular commercial stations, and it's getting good ratings in this very conservative, almost entirely Christian city - you have to wonder what would happen if my mother-in-law or one of the other members of the city's small Jewish community were to get a diary in the mail...) How does all this differ from Donna's example of the very politicized WBCN of the 1960s and early seventies? For one thing, the WBCN of that era wasn't a 70 million dollar corporate subsidiary. It was truly an "underground" station (even when it was 52 floors up in the Pru penthouse), and its image was built as much on the politics that it shared with its (extremely niche) audience as on the music it played. Today, that sort of niche is untenable in big-bucks commercial radio. s From steveord@bit-net.com Sun Sep 19 21:47:45 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Sep 19 21:47:49 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040918214247.028f11b0@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040918214247.028f11b0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040919213054.01b18c60@pop3.bit-net.com> There have been a number of interesting responses to this post, but I don't think this theory has been mentioned. You mention the station being album rock....I wonder how relevant an artist Bruce Springsteen is to today's AOR listener. Classic rock, yes, but AOR, I'm not sure. I would venture a guess that neither WBCN nor WAAF has played a tune by Bruce in many years. To a 22 year old today, my suspicion is that Bruce is no more relevant to their lives than Elvis. Would it create a similar stir if an altrock station removed an artist publicly supporting Bush? While I'm very weary of actors/comedians/musicians who seem to consider themselves somehow more enlightened than the rest of us politically and get preachy about it, I'm not sure all that many people care. I'm certainly not going to change my vote because some rock star endorses a particular candidate. Would you? Someone mentioned the Dixie Chicks in another post. Other than the Beatles in 1966 (following John's remarks about being more popular than Jesus), the Chicks have to be one of the few times a currently hot artist got temporarily removed from airplay. Weren't the stations that dropped the DC mostly responding to their listeners (and were mainly stations in conservative areas of the country)? When Cat Stevens got "banned" a few years back he was pretty irrelevant anyway...did any stations other than a handful of soft ACs play any of his songs any more? From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Sep 19 22:06:23 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Sep 19 22:06:28 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio References: <20040919.100421.5883.707312@webmail06.nyc.untd.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040919132754.02aeddc0@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20040919211139.02c5f468@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <006401c49eb6$6e4d1b40$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Daniel Billings" ; "Donna Halper" Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 9:31 PM Subject: Re: music and politics on radio > I think there's a very clear distinction there, though. If I understand > right (and I openly admit not having heard a single Beanie Man song), the > song lyrics themselves were advocating violence against gays. To my mind, > that's a rather big leap from the issue Donna raises, There is a difference but the people advocating that he be boycotted are not just suggesting that the offending songs be boycotted but that the artist be banned entirely. Then there is Eminem. He has songs with anti-gay lyrics but Elton John played with him and all is forgotten. If you are a big enough star, you can get away with it. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Sep 19 22:13:14 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Sep 19 22:14:11 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040919211139.02c5f468@gwind.pair.com> References: <002401c49e9f$fb4e0700$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <20040919.100421.5883.707312@webmail06.nyc.untd.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040919132754.02aeddc0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040919220555.02b245e0@pop.registeredsite.com> >Scott wrote-- > >(An anecdote about the dangers of mixing anything other than music into a >music format: my mother-in-law, who is Jewish, is visiting from Indiana >this weekend, and we got to talking about radio there. She was complaining >that one of the local "lite FM" stations now plays a handful of >contemporary Christian tunes as part of its music mix every morning. First, a belated Happy New Year to Scott and other Jewish list-members. Second, that's a very interesting point. For some people, they really do wanna hear Christian music. For others (including some of my friends who are Christian), they don't like anything that preaches or has a religious message. They come to mainstream pop radio to get away from anything with a religious message, even though some songs may have a spiritual side to them-- but as long as the song doesn't preach, it's not a tuneout to my secular friends. SO, if your community is mostly Christian (which given that Jews make up only 3% of the US population, there's a good chance your market IS majority Christian), does that mean it's okay to mix in Christian music, even very nicely produced Christian music, if it's not your format? When I was consulting fulltime, I used to warn clients of the dangers of mixing in country songs to their AC format if the songs were not AC hits and didn't really fit the station's over-all sound. Yeah, it's tempting to wanna be all things to all people, but I am not sure you can do it. As for religious music, I am not sure I'd wanna go down that road, just because even in society today, it's a very polarizing issue. If I have a religious station, of course I play that stuff-- we have many Christian stations that use our music software, for example. But to blend Christian with AC on a Lite FM-- I don't know if it's a good idea, and not just because a couple of Jews might object. From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Sep 19 22:27:48 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Sep 19 22:28:02 2004 Subject: music and politics (Johnny Cash weighs in) Message-ID: <20040920022748.89DBC39E7@mprdmxin.myway.com> btw, apologies to list for me quoting the _whole song_, as the copyright folks may frown on it! Perhaps I should have just put down a few lyrics. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Sep 19 22:57:23 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Sep 19 23:08:04 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <20040919145929.F06A539C6@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <414E0ED3.7.FCA06E@localhost> On 19 Sep 2004 at 10:59, Bob Nelson wrote: > Country stations later wound up re-instating the Chicks, though > (and some liberal-leaning public radio stations actually added > the Chicks to their playlist during the controversy, like the > folk show at Kent State's WKSU). CMT kept airing the Dixie Chicks during that time, with a rather patriotic song, "Traveling Soldier." > Ingraham's attitude is: look, you entertain us and leave the politics to > the experts. Then again, I'm sure many conservatives don't mind if someone > like Charlie Daniels gets up on stage and sings "This Ain't No Rag, It's A > Flag" or "In America" and talks about supporting the war...though I guess > if a concert were promoted as also being a "support the troops and > President" rally, people would at least know what they're in for. Who > knows. But in the Vietnam Era, many songs were written with a political theme, most of them anti- war, etc. It has been noted that there are very few such protest songs now. It has also been noticed that there are artists who are against Bush's war policies and have written anti-war songs, but they aren't getting airtime in the current climate. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Sep 19 22:57:23 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Sep 19 23:08:29 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040919220555.02b245e0@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040919211139.02c5f468@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <414E0ED3.8188.FCA1D5@localhost> On 19 Sep 2004 at 22:13, Donna Halper wrote: > First, a belated Happy New Year to Scott and other Jewish > list-members. And the same to you. > Second, that's a very interesting point. For some people, they really > do wanna hear Christian music. For others (including some of my > friends who are Christian), they don't like anything that preaches or > has a religious message. They come to mainstream pop radio to get away > from anything with a religious message, even though some songs may > have a spiritual side to them-- but as long as the song doesn't preach, > it's not a tuneout to my secular friends. Interesting. Seems to me that back in the Golden Age of Rock & Roll, there were songs with overt preaching. I remember "Three Bells," about Jimmy Brown ("And the little congregation, prayed for guidance from above, ..."), the Deck of Cards, where the soldier was in trouble for opening a deck of cards in church, and I'm sure there were others.Not to mention all the Christmas music, even religious Christmas music, on pop stations. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Sep 19 23:19:45 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun Sep 19 23:19:53 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <414E0ED3.7.FCA06E@localhost> References: <414E0ED3.7.FCA06E@localhost> Message-ID: At 10:57 PM -0400 9/19/04, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >It has been noted that there are very few such protest songs now. Actually there are plenty of them, they just aren't getting much airplay on corporate radio. They had a bunch of them yesterday on Sirius Folktown, on the weekly "Dharma Cafe" program. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From steveord@bit-net.com Mon Sep 20 07:38:36 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Mon Sep 20 07:38:38 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040919220555.02b245e0@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <002401c49e9f$fb4e0700$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <20040919.100421.5883.707312@webmail06.nyc.untd.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040919132754.02aeddc0@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040919220555.02b245e0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040920072430.01b87138@pop3.bit-net.com> Donna Halper wrote: > For some people, they really do wanna hear Christian music. For others > (including some of my friends who are Christian), they don't like > anything that preaches or has a religious message. They come to > mainstream pop radio to get away from anything with a religious message, > even though some songs may have a spiritual side to them-- but as long as > the song doesn't preach, it's not a tuneout to my secular friends. But wouldn' t the same thing apply to political songs? Just because a person likes (for example) rock music doesn't necessarily make them anti-war/anti-Bush/anti-whatever the artist is against this week. Were all rock music fans anti-war in 1971? I doubt it. But we still got a heavy dose of it anyway. Could it be that the lack of protest songs on the radio today reflects the fact that these songs are polarizing rather than some Great Right Wing Conspiracy? You don't hear the equivalent of "Ballad Of The Green Berets" either. Why is it wrong for an artist to shove their religious beliefs down our throats, but perfectly acceptible to do the same with their politics? While my own politics are slightly conservative, I'm just as annoyed by all the flag-waving mom-&-apple pie country songs as I am with those that have a leftist message (or a blatant religious one for that matter). >Yeah, it's tempting to wanna be all things to all people, but I am not >sure you can do it. As for religious music, I am not sure I'd wanna go >down that road, just because even in society today, it's a very polarizing >issue. If I have a religious station, of course I play that stuff-- we >have many Christian stations that use our music software, for >example. But to blend Christian with AC on a Lite FM-- I don't know if >it's a good idea, and not just because a couple of Jews might object. But where do you draw the line? Certainly Amy Grant had a number of legitimate hits in the early-mid 90s. It's sad that we all have such thin skins today and don't want to hear/see anything that we don't agree with. From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Sep 20 11:38:51 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Sep 20 11:39:03 2004 Subject: Allston-Brighton Free Radio hangs on Message-ID: <20040920153851.D46BB3A99@mprdmxin.myway.com> Again, good to have Boston Radio Watch back! It's from there that I found a story about Allston-Brighton Free Radio (via the Tab I believe). I hadn't realized they were no longer webcasting and are relying only on their small signal. They're going through some financial hardship but hope to attract new DJs who pay a membership fee, etc http://www2.townonline.com/allston/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=87150 _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Sep 20 13:35:50 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Sep 20 13:35:55 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio Message-ID: <200409201335.AA2095710318@mail.ttlc.net> Bulletin: This just in! CBS MarketWatch reports that some News Organizations are barring employees from (or seriously urging them to avoid) attending the Bruce Springstein concerts for John Kerry. Editor & Publisher notes that the "Plain Dealer" doesn't care because it's "more about entertainment and less about making a political statement." Whereas the Detroit Free Press considers it a political fund-raiser and has sent memos to newsroom employees stating "if you cover politics or are in any way in your position influencing, affecting or touching politics -- that would include copy editing, writing headlines, and designing pages -- it is a pretty clear conflict." I wonder if this is happening in radio? From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Sep 20 15:43:54 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Sep 20 15:44:14 2004 Subject: music and politics on radio Message-ID: <20040920194354.7F9F83972@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>CBS MarketWatch reports that some News Organizations are barring employees from (or seriously urging them to avoid) attending the Bruce Springstein concerts for John Kerry. I can't remember if he's doing fundraisers for Kerry or taking part in the Rock For Change tour, which is anti-Bush but not necessarily pro-Kerry. Springsteen may have even said he's not endorsing a candidate but just doesn't like Bush. A letter to the editor in today's Herald (or was it Globe) implied that people like Kerry contributed to the "spit on soldiers" reaction post-Vietnam that Springsteen sings about in "Born in the USA" and the writer wondered why the Boss would want to support him. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Sep 21 02:27:59 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue Sep 21 02:14:02 2004 Subject: My last WMBR show 9/30 In-Reply-To: <200409151600.i8FG02d6019771@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: "All things must pass..." - (George Harrison) To "Lost & Found" listeners, friends, radio colleagues and media folks, Join me this Thursday September 23'rd, and then next week Thursday, September 30'th from 12 noon to 2 PM ET for my last regularly scheduled show on WMBR! It will be a celebration of my past 22 years on the air, and of moving on to seek new opportunities! Tune in at 88.1 FM in greater Boston, northeastern Massachusetts, and parts of southern New Hampshire, or listen on-line in high or low bandwidth mp3 streams at http://wmbr.mit.edu/?p=listen Requests are welcome by e-mail, either at my personal address here elipolo@earthlink.net, or at eli@wmbr.org Since 1982, I've enjoyed the privilege of hosting a weekly radio program on WMBR radio, the college station based at MIT in Cambridge MA, featuring music from the 1960's through approximately the mid- 1970's largely overlooked by commercial "oldies" and "classic rock" stations. The program began in 1980 as a weekday morning program block called "Sleepwalk", from 7-9 AM. I joined as Tuesday host in June, 1982. In June 1983, the program block moved to 12 noon-2 PM, and after a couple of other short-lived names, was renamed "Lost & Found". Over the years I shared the program block with many wonderful, excellent DJ's and friends, far too many to list. As many musical genres were played on the block during the course of every week, the different hosts on each weekday specialized in the types of music from the 60's/70's era that were their best personal fort?. My weekly edition became modeled after my personal memories of listening to then-called "underground" or "progressive" early FM album rock radio in the late 1960's and early 70's, which played a mix of "psychedelic" album rock, folk, blues, R&B, and some various other musical forms. Though my program also included music by many artists never played on commercial stations, much of it was music that had been, but was later dropped from the playlists "up the dial". In more recent years, commercial stations had reduced their repertoires of many artists of the 60's and 70's to just a few of their "greatest hits", neglecting a segment of listeners who had enjoyed the once-popular album cuts and so-called "deeper" tracks from those artists, as well as younger listeners who could no longer hear them for the first time elsewhere. I've greatly appreciated the positive listener response I've gotten over the years of providing this program. After having to leave WMBR for a couple of years in the mid-1990's following illness, I returned in 1998 and rejoined "Lost & Found" on Thursdays. Now after 22 years since my first show on WMBR, I have decided that with this autumns WMBR program schedule, that it's now time for me to decline submitting their seasonal program renewal proposal for my regular show. As I'm sure you're all well aware, life is much more expensive than it was in the 1980's and even in the 1990's. Most of you know that WMBR is a completely all-volunteer station, never originally intended to be anything more than MIT's college station. There was an extended period of years in which non-MIT outside community people happened to be allowed to join, but it has never been any kind of a business of any sort, and it has always been a fully volunteer operation. It's simply not possible for me to devote the volunteer time to WMBR anymore. Though hosts are only heard on-air two hours (maximum) per week, much more volunteer time than that is required, not only by the station itself, but also for various work related to producing and presenting the show, as well as dealing with other logistical issues. I work two part-time paying jobs, and I barely scrape by financially every month. Add the time required for WMBR, and I become physically exhausted every week due to lack of sleep, regardless of how well I take care of myself otherwise. After my Thursday all day at WMBR and then my paid job Thursday overnights, I can't function on Fridays at all. It's not healthy to live that way every week at 47 years old. Involvement at WMBR also leaves me absolutely no time and energy for any other pursuits. I plan to try exploring possibilities for paid radio work in the Boston area and around New England, but it's not possible for me to even begin while regularly involved at WMBR. I plan to occasionally continue to assist WMBR with promotions (ticket giveaways, arranging on-air artist interviews, etc...) and may do an occasional fill-in from time to time, but not on a regular basis. I will not be seeking further work at any all-volunteer stations. Though I'm always willing to go the extra mile and beyond the line of duty to provide extra help in most situations, I can no longer afford to work regularly on an exclusively volunteer basis. I'm very grateful and thankful for the audience who has listened to and have supported my show on WMBR over the past two decades, and always made it place consistently within the top five airshifts on the station in their annual fall fundraisers. It's really been your consistent positive feedback, phone calls and e-mails that kept me going on the show on a volunteer basis for all this many years. My biggest regret is having to leave you. Ideally, I hope to find another on-air venue in the area for a somewhat similar show. It's been a great 22 year run! It's often been more fun than I could imagine. I've worked with many incredible people at WMBR, and I'm very thankful for all their support and assistance. The show gave me opportunities to arrange to meet and interview many legendary recording artists, performers, authors, DJ's and other luminaries of the 60's, 70's and beyond that I had never dreamt possible. Too many to mention. I want thank all the many agents and promoters I've worked with over the years. The "Lost & Found" block will continue to play music of various types from the 60's to mid 70's from 12 noon - 2 PM on WMBR. I do not know at this time whether it will still air on all five weekdays. I expect that it will, but can't speculate for sure. I don't know who will be on the DJ lineup, there may be some new voices. Alex McNeil, who has been doing alternating Fridays, may be moving to the slot I'm leaving on Thursdays. For those who don't know Alex, his style is different from mine, but he is extremely knowledgeable and does a high quality program, often with very interesting, well-researched thematic features. We won't know for sure until a couple of weeks, though. People have already been asking me what the first thing is that I will do with the free time. Truthfully, the answer is to clean my apartment. I haven't had time for many months. You don't want to imagine it. Then, I'll finally be able to function in it... I'll see you all at the shows! Thanks for listening! Eli Polonsky From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Sep 21 04:20:50 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Sep 21 04:21:01 2004 Subject: Double standard in firing of Seattle talk host? Message-ID: <20040921082050.6670639C3@mprdmxin.myway.com> Talk host Brian Maloney of KIRO Seattle was fired for what he said was his desire that Dan Rather be fired because of the memo scandal. The station told the media that the reason why Maloney was let go was actually because of sports conflicts. Well, Les Kinsolving adds some interesting comments--including the fact that Brian Maloney's email to him mentioned that a colleague, Mike Webb, had openly called on-air for the execution of Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, but _he_ wasn't even suspended, let alone fired: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1222214/posts _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Sep 21 04:30:56 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Sep 21 04:31:05 2004 Subject: RI Atty General wants to stop WRNI sale Message-ID: <20040921083056.15A2F39C2@mprdmxin.myway.com> http://www.turnto10.com/news/3746011/detail.html (RI) Attorney General Patrick Lynch on Monday asked the owner of Rhode Island's only public radio station to halt the station's sale. In a letter written to Jane Christo, general manager of WBUR-FM in Boston, Lynch expressed his reservations relating to the proposed sale. He asked Boston University to halt the sale of WRNI until the concerns of his office and the concerns of WRNI's major contributors have been properly addressed. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From billo@shoreham.net Tue Sep 21 06:59:14 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue Sep 21 06:59:07 2004 Subject: Double standard in firing of Seattle talk host? In-Reply-To: <20040921082050.6670639C3@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <000201c49fca$09487450$0300a8c0@livingroom> bob Nelson writes: > Talk host Brian Maloney of KIRO Seattle was fired for what he said > was his desire that Dan Rather be fired because of the memo scandal. > The station told the media that the reason why Maloney was let go > was actually because of sports conflicts. This doesn't sound like a firing over a talker's point of view. KIRO (Entercom?) doesn't have a precedent for something like that. Whatever the motive, it was poor timing on the part of management, on the heels of a presidential general election. Bill O'Neill From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Tue Sep 21 10:25:05 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Tue Sep 21 10:25:11 2004 Subject: Boston DJ Pic Headlines Paper In Sticks! Message-ID: <200409211025.AA10158372@mail.ttlc.net> Michael Burns (Sunday Morning Country Oldies on WKLB) appeared at CampAmerica RV Sales in Kingston, NH and his (quite large) picture was Top Front Page in the Carriage Town News (Kingston, NH) along with a plug for the show, his partner Stu Fink and the request line number. Great PR Job! Good (almost) Local Radio! And a trump of WOKQ in their own backyard. Full disclosure: I live in the sticks! A community of 3,000+ and we don't have full-time radio station. But we do have a world-renowned Meteorologist. :) (Fremont NH is, however, rapidly becoming another Mass bedroom community - Arrrgggghhhh) From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Sep 21 11:02:29 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue Sep 21 11:03:24 2004 Subject: Charlie Austin Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040921105952.0286f538@pop.registeredsite.com> Some of you have received this mailing from Len Zola, but I hope we can all help out-- Charlie is a long-time local newsguy, and a dear human being who survived cancer and was doing well till this happened. It would be nice if we could help his family, and for those who are religious, please keep him in your prayers. Len Zola of the Media Gang wrote: "...Charlie Austin suffered another stroke a few weeks ago. He has not regained consciousness and his doctors don't know if, or when, he will. In the meantime, his family is renting an apartment near Mass. General to be at his side around the clock. While Charlie has medical coverage, his wife, Linda, has confided in friends that other living expenses have become astronomical. Staffers at Channels 4 and 5 are able to make personal cash donations to help defray these costs via, respectively, Liz Walker and Sue Wornick. If you'd like to help, too, I suggest you write a check to "Charlie Austin" (his wife will deposit it to their account) and send it to either of the above (Liz is at WBZ-TV, 1170 Soldiers Field Rd, Allston, MA 02134, and Susan is at WCVB-TV, 5 TV Place, Needham, MA 02194..." From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Sep 21 16:59:54 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Sep 21 17:00:04 2004 Subject: Double standard in firing of Seattle talk host? Message-ID: <20040921205954.DCB6186AE9@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Bill O'Neill" >Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 06:59:14 -0400 >To: , >Subject: RE: Double standard in firing of Seattle talk host > Whatever the > motive, it was poor timing on the part of management, on the heels of a > presidential general election. > > Bill O'Neill > "On the heels"? According to Wayne Magnuson's English Idioms http://home.t-online.de/home/toni.goeller/idiom_wm/ References: <20040921205954.DCB6186AE9@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <415099F3.7070506@shoreham.net> Laurence Glavin wrote: > "On the heels"? According to Wayne Magnuson's English Idioms > this phrase means "immediately after'. Okay, how does pursuant to fly? Bill O'Neill Shoreham, Vt. From rac@gabrielmass.com Tue Sep 21 18:24:59 2004 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue Sep 21 18:25:06 2004 Subject: Double standard in firing of Seattle talk host? In-Reply-To: <415099F3.7070506@shoreham.net> References: <20040921205954.DCB6186AE9@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> <415099F3.7070506@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <4150AA3B.7040906@gabrielmass.com> Bill O'Neill wrote: > Laurence Glavin wrote: > >> "On the heels"? According to Wayne Magnuson's English Idioms >> this phrase means "immediately after'. > > > Okay, how does pursuant to fly? Isn't that legalese for "in compliance with"? The phrase "subsequent to" might meet your needs. --RC From rac@gabrielmass.com Tue Sep 21 18:26:25 2004 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue Sep 21 18:26:31 2004 Subject: Double standard in firing of Seattle talk host? In-Reply-To: <415099F3.7070506@shoreham.net> References: <20040921205954.DCB6186AE9@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> <415099F3.7070506@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <4150AA91.3020700@gabrielmass.com> Bill O'Neill wrote: > Laurence Glavin wrote: > >> "On the heels"? According to Wayne Magnuson's English Idioms >> this phrase means "immediately after'. > > > Okay, how does pursuant to fly? Scratch the last line of my previous. Silly me. "subsequent to" isn't it. Try "in the run-up to..." --RC From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Sep 21 18:46:20 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Tue Sep 21 18:46:27 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland Message-ID: <005f01c4a02c$d0ab7800$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Nassau is dropping Air America from 870 WLVP Gorham/Portland and replacing it with ESPN radio. http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/040921wlvp.shtml If liberal radio can't make it in liberal southern Maine, its viability nationally has to be questionable. Portland already has one full-time sports station -- which has a local morning show. Plus, WZAN runs Fox Sports all weekend along with football and NASCAR. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Sep 21 19:32:16 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue Sep 21 19:33:41 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <005f01c4a02c$d0ab7800$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <005f01c4a02c$d0ab7800$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040921192607.01c3ffd0@mail.mac.com> At 06:46 PM 9/21/2004 -0400, Daniel Billings wrote: >Nassau is dropping Air America from 870 WLVP Gorham/Portland and >replacing it with ESPN radio. > >http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/040921wlvp.shtml > >If liberal radio can't make it in liberal southern Maine, its viability >nationally has to be questionable. I think it's a stretch to extrapolate the national viability of a format based on the decision of one station. Perhaps, they just got a better offer from ESPN. Overall, AirAmerica is adding affiliates, but there will always be some churn, that's the nature of the business. I still can't figure out why some right-wingers are so afraid of another point of view being aired. Are they really that insecure in their convictions that they can't stand to hear of something else being aired? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Sep 21 20:15:37 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Tue Sep 21 20:15:43 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland References: <005f01c4a02c$d0ab7800$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <6.1.2.0.2.20040921192607.01c3ffd0@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <008001c4a039$497c4f00$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: "'Boston Radio Interest'" Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 7:32 PM Subject: Re: Air America dumped in Portland > I think it's a stretch to extrapolate the national viability of a format > based on the decision of one station. Perhaps, they just got a better > offer from ESPN. No more of a stretch than to trumpet AA's ratings vs. O'Reilly or in Portland, OR as a measure of success nationally. >Perhaps, they just got a better offer from ESPN. Perhaps. Or perhaps it had something to do with being dead last in the market in the spring book. > I still can't figure out why some right-wingers are so afraid of another > point of view being aired. Are they really that insecure in their > convictions that they can't stand to hear of something else being aired? Another point of view being aired? What about CBS or the rest of the main stream media? What irked me was the hype and glee that the media showed in trumpeting AA's arrival. Nobody trumpeted Rush's arrival. He established an audience and the got publicity. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Sep 21 20:20:39 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Sep 21 20:20:46 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20040921192607.01c3ffd0@mail.mac.com> References: <005f01c4a02c$d0ab7800$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <6.1.2.0.2.20040921192607.01c3ffd0@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040921201229.01b85ec0@pop3.bit-net.com> Larry Weil wrote: >At 06:46 PM 9/21/2004 -0400, Daniel Billings wrote: > >>Nassau is dropping Air America from 870 WLVP Gorham/Portland and >>replacing it with ESPN radio. >>If liberal radio can't make it in liberal southern Maine, its viability >>nationally has to be questionable. > >I think it's a stretch to extrapolate the national viability of a format >based on the decision of one station. Perhaps, they just got a better >offer from ESPN. Works both ways. Lots of extrapolation of AA's national viability after a successful first book in Portland, Ore. Like many other formats, what works on one market may not in another. >I still can't figure out why some right-wingers are so afraid of another >point of view being aired. Are they really that insecure in their >convictions that they can't stand to hear of something else being aired? That works both ways too. Liberals seem to make a big fuss about how conservative the media is, when they really mean commercial talk radio. From tklaundry@juno.com Tue Sep 21 20:28:18 2004 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Tue Sep 21 20:30:36 2004 Subject: Boston DJ Pic Headlines Paper In Sticks! Message-ID: <20040921.172912.9327.737597@webmail19.nyc.untd.com> Roger Kirk wrote: (Fremont NH is, however, rapidly becoming another Mass bedroom community - Arrrgggghhhh) Gee Wizard...I remember spending a number of pleasant hours at your old abode in Lawrence MASSACHUSETTS! :-) Dave From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Sep 21 20:53:50 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Sep 21 20:53:54 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <008001c4a039$497c4f00$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <005f01c4a02c$d0ab7800$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <6.1.2.0.2.20040921192607.01c3ffd0@mail.mac.com> <008001c4a039$497c4f00$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <200409220053.i8M0rovN075608@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > What irked me was the hype and glee that the media showed in trumpeting AA's > arrival. Nobody trumpeted Rush's arrival. He established an audience and > the got publicity. Ah, but Rush almost single-handedly created the phenomenon that made Air America conceivable (if not inevitable). If "conservative talk" were not a well-established, highly profitable format, "liberal talk" would not be noteworthy outside of the industry press. As for me, I prefer non-left-right talk, somewhere along the Brian Lamb--Steve Leveille axis, as opposed to the Savage--Franken axis. Brudnoy claims to be a libertarian, and I can tolerate him in small doses, but when he's on a rant I find him indistinguishable from one of Salem's reactionary windbags even if his vituperation is occasionally directed at the darlings of the right instead of the left or center. -GAWollman From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Sep 21 21:00:03 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Tue Sep 21 21:00:08 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland References: <005f01c4a02c$d0ab7800$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af><6.1.2.0.2.20040921192607.01c3ffd0@mail.mac.com><008001c4a039$497c4f00$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <200409220053.i8M0rovN075608@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <009601c4a03f$7e205b10$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Daniel Billings" Cc: "'Boston Radio Interest'" Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Air America dumped in Portland > As for me, I prefer non-left-right talk: Along that line: Gene Burns was good. He was libertarian but not predictable. His national show never worked. The old latenight Larry King show was good. He used to be a good interviewer, which I know is hard for anyone to believe who has seen him recently. From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Sep 21 21:12:55 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue Sep 21 21:17:12 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <005f01c4a02c$d0ab7800$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040921211213.029fd418@pop.registeredsite.com> At 06:46 PM 9/21/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Nassau is dropping Air America from 870 WLVP Gorham/Portland and >replacing it with ESPN radio. > >http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/040921wlvp.shtml > >If liberal radio can't make it in liberal southern Maine, its viability >nationally has to be questionable. Umm, Dan, we don't know why they dropped it. And each market is different. I wouldn't read too much into this-- if a bunch of stations drop it, then it's a trend. If one drops it, it could be for any number of reasons. From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Sep 21 21:24:16 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Tue Sep 21 21:24:21 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040921211213.029fd418@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <00a801c4a042$e07164f0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Daniel Billings" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:12 PM Subject: Re: Air America dumped in Portland > Umm, Dan, we don't know why they dropped it. And each market is > different. I wouldn't read too much into this-- if a bunch of stations > drop it, then it's a trend. If one drops it, it could be for any number > of reasons. The story gives their reasons: they can sell more ads for sports. From radiotony@comcast.net Tue Sep 21 22:12:38 2004 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Tue Sep 21 22:12:47 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland References: <005f01c4a02c$d0ab7800$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af><6.1.2.0.2.20040921192607.01c3ffd0@mail.mac.com><008001c4a039$497c4f00$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af><200409220053.i8M0rovN075608@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <009601c4a03f$7e205b10$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <008a01c4a049$a2706c30$6400a8c0@tony> I miss Jerry Williams so much. Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net http://politizine.blogspot.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Sep 22 03:23:02 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Sep 22 03:23:06 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland Message-ID: <20040922072302.977BE3981@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>I still can't figure out why some right-wingers are so afraid of another point of view being aired. Actually some on the left want to squash right-wing talk radio by bringing back the Fairness Doctrine, it's said. Opie and Anthony (yes, them) will be on Sean Hannity's show tomorrow (both his radio show and FNC's Hannity and Colmes, I believe) and they'll talk about "just how far is too far?" Who knows, maybe hoaxes about the mayor dying in a car crash...could that be too far? Rush has also railed about the possibility of the Fairness Doctrine "killing (conservative) talk radio". Who knows which side is right (time perhaps to discuss...get the full story.) Hannity was saying, "We don't mind having the liberals with their own network--bring it on. Let them compete." Meanwhile, when the Swift Boat controversy started, some wanted the ads to be taken off the air and the John O'Neill book to be taken off the shelves. So much for free speech; liberals get to have their say but conservatives, no... though there probably have been times when right-wingers have asked for similar bans. Hannity is hoping Michael Moore will debate him in Arizona ("we'll donate the proceeds to charity") but so far Moore's people are refusing. Actually wouldn't it be interesting to have such a debate on TV or radio? _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Sep 22 09:26:23 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Sep 22 09:26:25 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <20040922072302.977BE3981@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20040922072302.977BE3981@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040922091502.01bec3f8@pop3.bit-net.com> Bob Nelson wrote: >Actually some on the left want to squash right-wing talk radio by bringing >back the Fairness Doctrine, it's said. Opie and Anthony (yes, them) will >be on Sean Hannity's show tomorrow (both his radio show and FNC's Hannity >and Colmes, I believe) and they'll talk about >"just how far is too far?" Or use the platform to hype their new XM (or is it Sirius?) show? I'm still not sure those 2 bozos get the concept of "too far". >Hannity is hoping Michael Moore will debate him in Arizona ("we'll >donate the proceeds to charity") but so far Moore's people are >refusing. Actually wouldn't it be interesting to have such a >debate on TV or radio? It'll never happen. Moore is nothing but hot air and half-truths. He wouldn't last 5 minutes in a debate. Tony Schinella added.... >I miss Jerry Williams so much. I don't. To me he was every bit the pompous windbag as the hosts we have today. Ahead of his time perhaps, and definitely a lot less dull than his contemporaries, but I don't recall a lot of intelligent discourse on his show either. Remember his whole anti-seat belt law campaign. OK, he got his law repealed and now we have %^$^ air bags in our cars. Thanks a lot Jerry. From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Wed Sep 22 09:50:24 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Wed Sep 22 09:50:27 2004 Subject: Slavish Repetition In News Message-ID: <200409220950.AA400818474@mail.ttlc.net> Can someone more closely affiliated with newsgathering than I please answer the following question? Why does every story about the kidnapping of 2 Americans & 1 Briton conspicously noted that they were kidnapped in a "Wealthy", "Upscale" or "Affluent" neighborhood in Baghdad? Does a higher income level of the neighborhood's residents somehow make this a more despicable crime? Or a more improbable crime? Why? From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Sep 22 11:11:22 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Sep 22 11:11:34 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland Message-ID: <20040922151122.B015712DC0@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Or use the platform to hype their new XM (or is it Sirius?) show? Well, Hannity did say that that's why they're on but he will discuss the topic. >>It'll never happen. Moore is nothing but hot air and half-truths. He wouldn't last 5 minutes in a debate. I know the liberals on this list will disagree with me on this, but sometimes it seems that liberal callers/guests will "change the subject" when questioned on a conservative talker's show. I've given the example before of Laura Ingraham attempting to interview someone from Lawyers Against the War but he refused to answer her initial question of whether or not Saddam's being out of power was a good thing. He hung up in disgust after she tried politely to ask him this, then when her producer called him back, the man called Ingraham names off-air and refused to go back on. Moore had hugely successful "documentary" films and books. Yet many people, myself included, bought a book called "Michael Moore is A Big Fat Stupid White Man" which dared to fact-check his work. Some feel he's a brilliant man, some a con man. If Moore really felt confident about his ability to debate someone like Sean Hannity, why wouldn't he agree to? _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From mamros@MIT.EDU Wed Sep 22 11:29:22 2004 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Wed Sep 22 11:29:27 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:15:37 EDT." <008001c4a039$497c4f00$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <200409221529.i8MFTMF7010456@mint-square.mit.edu> >What irked me was the hype and glee that the media showed in trumpeting AA's >arrival. Nobody trumpeted Rush's arrival. He established an audience and >the got publicity. Oddly, the first time I heard of Rush was when he was interviewed on 60 Minutes. :-) Think it was close to 15 years ago now; I'm pretty certain it was during Bush Sr.'s term of office. And I don't think his audience was quite as huge at the time, either. It's even possible that the 60 Minutes piece might've gotten him some more listeners... -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From sid.whitaker@unh.edu Wed Sep 22 11:35:09 2004 From: sid.whitaker@unh.edu (Sid Whitaker) Date: Wed Sep 22 11:35:16 2004 Subject: Slavish Repetition In News In-Reply-To: <200409220950.AA400818474@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200409220950.AA400818474@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <1095867309.41519bad1fd58@webmail.unh.edu> Maybe we probably perceive crime as occuring less frequently in tonier neighborhoods. This might suggest it's more newsworthy when it does happen in a place we don't necessarily expect it to. For example, murders, robberies, and other violent crimes that occur in places such as Wellesley, Weston, Dover, and other affluent Boston suburbs sometimes appear get bigger play in the local newspapers than if they take place in Roxbury, Dorchester, or Mattapan. Not to say this is always the case---the circumstances of the crime often drive the coverage---but location is a big factor in determining news "value." Sid Whitaker > Can someone more closely affiliated with newsgathering than I > please answer the following question? > > Why does every story about the kidnapping of 2 Americans & 1 Briton > conspicously noted that they were kidnapped in a "Wealthy", > "Upscale" or "Affluent" neighborhood in Baghdad? > > Does a higher income level of the neighborhood's residents > somehow make this a more despicable crime? Or a more > improbable crime? Why? > > From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Sep 22 11:37:16 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Sep 22 11:37:20 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <20040922072302.977BE3981@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20040922072302.977BE3981@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <200409221537.i8MFbG8D082753@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Hannity is hoping Michael Moore will debate him in Arizona ("we'll > donate the proceeds to charity") but so far Moore's people are > refusing. Actually wouldn't it be interesting to have such a > debate on TV or radio? No, we have enough pompous windbags on radio as it is. -GAWollman From mlaurence@mindspring.com Wed Sep 22 12:32:29 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Wed Sep 22 12:32:32 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <20040922151122.B015712DC0@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20040922151122.B015712DC0@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: On Sep 22, 2004, at 11:11 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > I know the liberals on this list will disagree with me on this, > but sometimes it seems that liberal callers/guests will "change > the subject" when questioned on a conservative talker's show. This annoying practice happens all the time on talk shows of every ideology. Usually it's a professional spin-meister guest, who will answer any question with whatever he was going to say before he walked into the studio. That's often followed by the host asking whatever question he had in mind no matter what the guest said. The goal is to get the talking points on the air, period. It's a very big reason why the screaming-head prime-time "news" shows are so useless. Listen closely...if the caller/guest agrees with the host, they can talk off topic, carry on at length, have most of their assertions go unchallenged. Often, if they disagree, they can hardly finish a sentence without getting attacked, and they're lucky if they get another sentence to respond. The most unfair, but commonly used tactic, is the host self-righteously slamming the caller after they've hung up or been cut off. This happens on conservative and liberal talk shows, more often on conservative shows because there are so many more of them. Mark From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Sep 22 13:08:54 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Sep 22 13:09:51 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland References: <20040922151122.B015712DC0@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <003901c4a0c6$f0075e40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Sounds as if you've never listened to Michael Medved. Whenever a caller calls with an argument Medved doesn't like, Medved says something to the effect of, "let me rephrase what you just said." He then pots down the caller, states a completely different argument that is more to his liking, and proceeds to demolish the argument that the caller never presented. I have never heard him give any caller on whom he has used this tactic a chance to say on the air that the "response" failed to address the caller's issue. Many other conservative hosts, and probably some of the few liberal hosts, use this same shopwarn tactic, although I think most are less heavy-handed and strident than Medved. Of all the conservative hosts I've heard, only Hannity appears to rival Medved in stridency. That perception may be related to the timbre of their voices; both remind me of fingernails being scraped across a blackboard. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Nelson To: ; Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: Re: Air America dumped in Portland > > I know the liberals on this list will disagree with me on this, > but sometimes it seems that liberal callers/guests will "change > the subject" when questioned on a conservative talker's show. From billo@shoreham.net Wed Sep 22 16:16:44 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Sep 22 16:22:39 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <200409221537.i8MFbG8D082753@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <20040922072302.977BE3981@mprdmxin.myway.com> <200409221537.i8MFbG8D082753@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4151DDAC.9020007@shoreham.net> Garrett Wollman wrote: > No, we have enough pompous windbags on radio as it is. > > -GAWollman Politics aside (really), Michael Moore is quickly becoming a caricature of himself, another documentarian begging to be relevant during this no ordinary time. The media _must_ be getting weary of people who _are_ the story - especially when it's not easy to figure out what is _the_ lead story anymore. Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Sep 22 18:33:11 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Wed Sep 22 18:33:17 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland References: <200409221529.i8MFTMF7010456@mint-square.mit.edu> Message-ID: <004701c4a0f4$245d5fa0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Mamros" To: "Daniel Billings" Cc: "'Boston Radio Interest'" Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Air America dumped in Portland > Oddly, the first time I heard of Rush was when he was interviewed on > 60 Minutes. :-) Think it was close to 15 years ago now; I'm pretty > certain it was during Bush Sr.'s term of office. And I don't think > his audience was quite as huge at the time, either. It's even possible > that the 60 Minutes piece might've gotten him some more listeners... Rush hit it big and then got publicity. AA got juge publicity and then lost the two biggest markets in the country. From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Sep 22 18:34:41 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Wed Sep 22 18:34:47 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland References: <20040922151122.B015712DC0@mprdmxin.myway.com> <003901c4a0c6$f0075e40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <005301c4a0f4$5a1c8760$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> My impression of Hannity is that he is just not very smart. He has the talk points down but that's it. From billo@shoreham.net Wed Sep 22 18:57:40 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Sep 22 19:03:34 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <005301c4a0f4$5a1c8760$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <20040922151122.B015712DC0@mprdmxin.myway.com> <003901c4a0c6$f0075e40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <005301c4a0f4$5a1c8760$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <41520364.5060500@shoreham.net> Daniel Billings wrote: > My impression of Hannity is that he is just not very smart. He has the > talk points down but that's it. He strikes me as one lucky boy. A generous contract with ABC, up to around 600 stations, plus a high profile cable show. He strikes me as someone who is smart but trying to be wise beyond his years-in. Bill O'Neill From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Sep 22 19:37:15 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed Sep 22 19:37:23 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <004701c4a0f4$245d5fa0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <200409221529.i8MFTMF7010456@mint-square.mit.edu> <004701c4a0f4$245d5fa0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040922193351.0263dd28@mail.mac.com> At 06:33 PM 9/22/2004 -0400, Daniel Billings wrote: >Rush hit it big and then got publicity. AA got juge publicity and then >lost the two biggest markets in the country. The first time I ever heard of Rush was when he subbed for Pat Sajak on what turned out to be the last Pat Sajak Show on CBS. In essence, he did a radio show on TV, as I recall. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Sep 22 20:07:54 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Wed Sep 22 20:07:59 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland References: <200409221529.i8MFTMF7010456@mint-square.mit.edu><004701c4a0f4$245d5fa0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <6.1.2.0.2.20040922193351.0263dd28@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <007401c4a101$5fa8be30$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: "'Boston Radio Interest'" Cc: "'Boston Radio Interest'" Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:37 PM Subject: Re: Air America dumped in Portland > The first time I ever heard of Rush was when he subbed for Pat Sajak on > what turned out to be the last Pat Sajak Show on CBS. In essence, he did > a radio show on TV, as I recall. That was the show where some open minded liberals tried to keep him from talking by heckling. They had to clear a bunch of people out of the studio so he could finsh the show. From stevewest106@hotmail.com Wed Sep 22 20:16:36 2004 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Wed Sep 22 20:20:51 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland Message-ID: >That was the show where some open minded liberals tried to keep him from >talking by heckling. They had to clear a bunch of people out of the studio >so he could finsh the show. > Now hang on there, Daniel. You can't say 'open minded' and 'liberal' in the same sentence if they were trying to silence Limbaugh. If they were open minded, they would have wanted to listen to what Rush had to say. (GRIN) From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Sep 23 00:10:50 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Sep 23 00:15:07 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <20040922151122.B015712DC0@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <4152148A.14341.69AE1C@localhost> On 22 Sep 2004 at 11:11, Bob Nelson wrote: > Moore had hugely successful "documentary" films and books. Yet many > people, myself included, bought a book called "Michael Moore is A Big > Fat Stupid White Man" which dared to fact-check his work. Some feel > he's a brilliant man, some a con man. If Moore really felt confident > about his ability to debate someone like Sean Hannity, why wouldn't he > agree to? Well, it sorta depends on the terms of the debate. If it means appearing on Hannity's show, where Hannity controls access to the mike and can cut him off whenever Hannity doesn't like what he's going to say, I wouldn't bother. I don't know that much about Hannity, but I know that's Bill O'Reilly's tactic. As soon as you say something he doesn't like, he says, "Shutup, just shutup" and tells the engineer to cut your mike. I wouldn't go on his show if they paid me. Well, maybe if they paid me a really LOT, which they won't. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Sep 23 00:10:50 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Sep 23 00:15:12 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <20040922072302.977BE3981@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <4152148A.25193.69ADDB@localhost> On 22 Sep 2004 at 3:23, Bob Nelson wrote: > Hannity was saying, "We don't mind having the liberals with their > own network--bring it on. Let them compete." Meanwhile, when > the Swift Boat controversy started, some wanted the ads to be taken off > the air and the John O'Neill book to be taken off the shelves. So much for > free speech; liberals get to have their say but conservatives, no... > though there probably have been times when right-wingers have asked for > similar bans. There is such a thing as libel, though, and running a deliberately false ad would be actionable even under "New York Times v. Sullivan." It's lucky for a lot of conservatives that political figures don't want to bring libel suits. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Sep 23 01:33:27 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Sep 23 01:37:53 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland References: <4152148A.25193.69ADDB@localhost> Message-ID: <01b601c4a12f$675d0220$1404fea9@xyz> >>"New York Times v. Sullivan." Can you give us a quickie on what this was all about? JP From raccoonradio@myway.com Thu Sep 23 15:52:44 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Sep 23 15:52:56 2004 Subject: Hannity blackout on WTKK? Message-ID: <20040923195244.69414395F@mprdmxin.myway.com> Last night while at work I was listening to the thrilling Red Sox win, but I also wanted to tune in to tape-delayed Hannity via WTKK from time to time. At 10:07 pm, there was the intro--but it was Scott Shannon saying "Thank God it's Friday!" It was a re-run of a show from last week...and when I tuned in about 12:30 am, it sounded like a "radio rewind" of Severin. So I thought "Maybe Sean took a sick day or something came up" but on Sean's website there's a pic of Sean interviewing Opie and Anthony on his _radio show_ (not just the TV show he does with Alan Colmes) from Wed. the 22nd...did 'TKK screw up and not get the audio file of the show, or did they decide to not run it because of the O&A bit? (As I've said before, am not into O&A but was interested in hearing the "how far is too far" debate) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Sep 23 16:01:46 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Sep 23 16:02:22 2004 Subject: Hannity blackout on WTKK? References: <20040923195244.69414395F@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <007f01c4a1a8$29560f20$1404fea9@xyz> After calling WTKK, I was told that since the majority of the Hannity/O&A discussion as going to be about XM Satellite Radio...that WTKK opted not to run a one hour plug for satellite radio. They ran the other hours though... JP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:52 PM Subject: Hannity blackout on WTKK? > > Last night while at work I was listening to the thrilling Red Sox win, but I also wanted to tune in to tape-delayed Hannity via WTKK from time to time. At 10:07 pm, there was the intro--but it was Scott Shannon saying "Thank God it's Friday!" It was a re-run of a show from last week...and when I tuned in about 12:30 am, it sounded like a "radio rewind" of Severin. > > So I thought "Maybe Sean took a sick day or something came up" but on Sean's website there's a pic of Sean interviewing Opie and Anthony on his _radio show_ (not just the TV show he does with Alan Colmes) from Wed. the 22nd...did 'TKK screw up and not get the > audio file of the show, or did they decide to not run it because of the O&A bit? (As I've said before, am not into O&A but was interested in hearing the "how far is too far" debate) From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Sep 23 16:14:29 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Sep 23 16:14:33 2004 Subject: Hannity blackout on WTKK? Message-ID: <200409231614.AA771621014@mail.ttlc.net> Why - THAT'S CENSORSHIP! I'm Outraged! No flames, please! Never mind. I'm outta here. Gotta go make a Red/Blue Decision. Mutter, mutter,..... ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Joseph Pappalardo" Reply-To: Joseph Pappalardo Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:01:46 -0400 >After calling WTKK, I was told that since the majority of the Hannity/O&A >discussion as going to be about XM Satellite Radio...that WTKK opted not to >run a one hour plug for satellite radio. > >They ran the other hours though... > >JP > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: >Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:52 PM >Subject: Hannity blackout on WTKK? > > >> >> Last night while at work I was listening to the thrilling Red Sox win, but >I also wanted to tune in to tape-delayed Hannity via WTKK from time to time. >At 10:07 pm, there was the intro--but it was Scott Shannon saying "Thank God >it's Friday!" It was a re-run of a show from last week...and when I tuned in >about 12:30 am, it sounded like a "radio rewind" of Severin. >> >> So I thought "Maybe Sean took a sick day or something came up" but on >Sean's website there's a pic of Sean interviewing Opie and Anthony on his >_radio show_ (not just the TV show he does with Alan Colmes) from Wed. the >22nd...did 'TKK screw up and not get the >> audio file of the show, or did they decide to not run it because of the >O&A bit? (As I've said before, am not into O&A but was interested in hearing >the "how far is too far" debate) > > From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Sep 23 16:36:45 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Sep 23 16:36:53 2004 Subject: Hannity blackout on WTKK? In-Reply-To: <007f01c4a1a8$29560f20$1404fea9@xyz> References: <20040923195244.69414395F@mprdmxin.myway.com> <007f01c4a1a8$29560f20$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040923163520.0262e570@mail.mac.com> At 04:01 PM 9/23/2004 -0400, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >After calling WTKK, I was told that since the majority of the Hannity/O&A >discussion as going to be about XM Satellite Radio...that WTKK opted not to >run a one hour plug for satellite radio. As if most of WTKK's listeners don't know that satellite radio exists! Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Sep 23 16:54:51 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Sep 23 16:55:38 2004 Subject: Hannity blackout on WTKK? References: <20040923195244.69414395F@mprdmxin.myway.com><007f01c4a1a8$29560f20$1404fea9@xyz> <6.1.2.0.2.20040923163520.0262e570@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <001701c4a1af$998cb260$1404fea9@xyz> > >After calling WTKK, I was told that since the majority of the Hannity/O&A > >discussion as going to be about XM Satellite Radio...that WTKK opted not to > >run a one hour plug for satellite radio. > > From: "Larry Weil" > > As if most of WTKK's listeners don't know that satellite radio exists! They might know that it *exists*....What they probably don't need to hear, in the discretion of WTKK I suppose, is an hour extolling the virues of a competitor. (How to get it, what is on it, etc. Especially in a market where O&A once held court.) From billo@shoreham.net Thu Sep 23 17:04:07 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Sep 23 17:04:14 2004 Subject: Hannity blackout on WTKK? In-Reply-To: <001701c4a1af$998cb260$1404fea9@xyz> References: <20040923195244.69414395F@mprdmxin.myway.com><007f01c4a1a8$29560f20$1404fea9@xyz> <6.1.2.0.2.20040923163520.0262e570@mail.mac.com> <001701c4a1af$998cb260$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <41533A47.1030109@shoreham.net> Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > They might know that it *exists*....What they probably don't need to hear, > in the discretion of WTKK I suppose, is an hour extolling the virues of a > competitor. I guess since I'm not a subscriber (yet?) I don't see xm or sirius as competitors, but I guess they are emerging as one. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Thu Sep 23 17:06:26 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Sep 23 17:06:30 2004 Subject: Bird Choices Message-ID: <41533AD2.4070808@shoreham.net> Okay, heads or tails, Sirius vs. XM? I'm leaning Sirius since _every_ salesperson has muttered under their breath that Sirius is superior. Or is that just sales blather? Bill O'Neill From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Sep 23 17:21:53 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Sep 23 17:22:04 2004 Subject: Hannity blackout on WTKK? Message-ID: <20040923212153.B411486AE9@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >From: Larry Weil >Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:36:45 -0400 >To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Hannity blackout on WTKK? > At 04:01 PM 9/23/2004 -0400, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > > >After calling WTKK, I was told that since the majority of the Hannity/O&A > >discussion as going to be about XM Satellite Radio...that WTKK opted not to > >run a one hour plug for satellite radio. > > As if most of WTKK's listeners don't know that satellite radio exists! > > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > Hey, they're the best and the brightest! -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Sep 23 17:31:19 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Sep 23 17:31:31 2004 Subject: NY Times Jr. Cops Out Message-ID: <20040923213119.B7C3486AE9@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Yesterday (09/22) the Boston Globe ran a WIRE story on the potential sale of PRovidence's WRNI. It included the statement that WRNI was Rhode Island's only public radio station. I e-mail a correction to comments@globe.com, their submission e-mail address. I pointed out that the state had about a half-dozen stations between 88.1 and 91.9, the span of frequencies for public FM's. I also noted that at least one of them, WRIU-FM in Kingston was fairly strong and could be picked up by many residents of Baja Massachusetts. Today, the Globe replied that the correction would be forwarded to the Associated Press, the originator of the story, and the paper itself probably won't print it. Duh. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Sep 23 17:45:17 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Sep 23 17:45:24 2004 Subject: Bird Choices In-Reply-To: <41533AD2.4070808@shoreham.net> References: <41533AD2.4070808@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040923173557.026ac8d0@mail.mac.com> At 05:06 PM 9/23/2004 -0400, Bill O'Neill wrote: >Okay, heads or tails, Sirius vs. XM? I'm leaning Sirius since _every_ >salesperson has muttered under their breath that Sirius is superior. Or >is that just sales blather? I've had Sirius since March, and I'm quite happy with it. I made the decision based on the channel lineups of the two services, and felt that Sirius' lineup was more in line with my listening perferences. Of particular importance to me is that Sirius has three channels of NPR/PRI programming. I also feel that Sirus is more oriented towards older listeners, while XM appeals more to the subwoofer fans. I would suggest that you look at the channel lineups of the two services on their websites and then decide on a basis other than which service pays a higher commission to the salespeople: http://www.xmradio.com http://www.sirius.com The one thing I recommend against is any setup that uses an FM modulator to get the audio into your radio. You'll get much better sound with a direct connection. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From gary@garysicecream.com Thu Sep 23 17:54:24 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Thu Sep 23 17:54:36 2004 Subject: Bird Choices References: <41533AD2.4070808@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <081001c4a1b7$e44ee7c0$6500a8c0@office> I have XM and love it....favorite channels Old Time Radio.....Sonic Theatre...and EXtreme Talk (carries WTKS, Orlando). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 5:06 PM Subject: Bird Choices > Okay, heads or tails, Sirius vs. XM? I'm leaning Sirius since _every_ > salesperson has muttered under their breath that Sirius is superior. Or > is that just sales blather? > > Bill O'Neill From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Sep 23 21:10:14 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu Sep 23 21:10:19 2004 Subject: ESPN 900 WSNH Nashua NH, no more WMEX ? ? ? Message-ID: <20040924011014.96129.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> Expecting to find WMEX 900 AM Nashua on the radio dial when I got out of work this evening, I instead find ESPN 900, WSNH Nashua. What happened to WMEX (shh WSNH). Aslo strange, even thought the Nashua Pride Playoff BaseBall game is on the air tonight from Long Island, the previous two games, one in Long Island and one home in Nashua were not. From markwats@comcast.net Thu Sep 23 21:58:50 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Sep 23 21:59:01 2004 Subject: ESPN 900 WSNH Nashua NH, no more WMEX ? ? ? References: <20040924011014.96129.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <009a01c4a1da$0b22f7c0$6f918318@Mark> John Bolduc wrote: > Expecting to find WMEX 900 AM Nashua on the radio dial > when I got out of work this evening, I instead find ESPN >900, WSNH Nashua. I believe WSMN (1590 Nashua) was carrying ESPN Radio nights and weekends, maybe they finally had to leave 502 West Hollis St. to make way for the housing to be built on their studio & transmitter site. I should tune in tomorrow evening when I will be visiting Nashua to meet up with a friend, see if 1590 is gone. A couple of weeks ago WSNH added a daily 5 PM local sports talk show, "Mike & The Muttman" and is the new flagship station for "Friday Night Lights", which airs every Friday from 6-10 PM during the high school football season. Mike & "The Muttman" host this show in studio, talking high school football in between reports from their correspondents via cell phone from various H.S. football games around NH. They mentioned at the start of last Friday's show that "Friday Night Lights" is also heard on WMEX-FM (106.5 Farmington) and WKBR (1250 Manchester) and that "FNL" , as well as the daily 5 PM sports gab fest, are presented by "Absolute Broadcasting". Mark Watson From markwats@comcast.net Thu Sep 23 22:04:00 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Sep 23 22:04:10 2004 Subject: ESPN 900 WSNH Nashua NH, no more WMEX ? ? ? References: <20040924011014.96129.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> <009a01c4a1da$0b22f7c0$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <00a401c4a1da$c3a1a670$6f918318@Mark> I forgot to mention in my previous post, "Friday Night Lights" and the "Mike & The Muttman" shows were previously on WSMN. Mark Watson From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Sep 23 22:19:27 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu Sep 23 22:19:31 2004 Subject: ESPN 900 WSNH Nashua NH, no more WMEX ? ? ? In-Reply-To: <009a01c4a1da$0b22f7c0$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <20040924021927.9163.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> --- Mark Watson wrote: > I believe WSMN (1590 Nashua) was carrying ESPN Radio nights and > weekends, maybe they finally had to leave 502 West Hollis St. to make way for the housing to be built on their studio & transmitter site. I should tune in tomorrow evening when I will be visiting Nashua to meet up with a > friend, see if 1590 is gone. WSMN or at least a station that is coming in strong in Londonderry NH is there with a call in talk show. They are talking about computers and disk operating systems. John From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Sep 24 01:05:02 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Sep 24 01:04:03 2004 Subject: Hannity blackout on WTKK? In-Reply-To: <200409231614.AA771621014@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <415372BE.15058.A599AA@localhost> On 23 Sep 2004 at 16:14, rogerkirk wrote: > Why - THAT'S CENSORSHIP! > > I'm Outraged! It's not censorship. It's editorship. Censorship is when the government prevents publication of something. Private companies have the right to decide what goes out on their facilities. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Sep 24 01:05:02 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Sep 24 01:04:07 2004 Subject: NY Times Jr. Cops Out In-Reply-To: <20040923213119.B7C3486AE9@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <415372BE.29850.A59A22@localhost> On 23 Sep 2004 at 16:31, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Yesterday (09/22) the Boston Globe ran a WIRE story on the potential sale > of PRovidence's WRNI. It included the statement that WRNI was Rhode > Island's only public radio station. I e-mail a correction to > comments@globe.com, their submission e-mail address. I pointed out that > the state had about a half-dozen stations between 88.1 and 91.9, the span > of frequencies for public FM's. I also noted that at least one of them, > WRIU-FM in Kingston was fairly strong and could be picked up by many > residents of Baja Massachusetts. Today, the Globe replied that the > correction would be forwarded to the Associated Press, the originator of > the story, and the paper itself probably won't print it. Duh. -- Have you brought this to the attention of the Globe Ombudsman? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Sep 24 01:05:02 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Sep 24 01:05:03 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <01b601c4a12f$675d0220$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <415372BE.11741.A59B0D@localhost> On 23 Sep 2004 at 1:33, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > > > >>"New York Times v. Sullivan." > > Can you give us a quickie on what this was all about? This was a U.S. Supreme Court decision in the 1960s, which held, in essense, that in order to protect the freedom of public discourse, a public figure had to prove "malice" in order to prevail in a lawsuit for libel or slander. "Malice" means either a deliberate or a reckless disregard for the truth. Clinton aide Sydney Bloomenthal and his wife did sue the Drudge Report for libel, when it reported falsely that he was an adjudicated wife-beater, and Matt Drudge admitted that he never bothered to check the truth of anything he published. They dropped the suit after Clinton left office, mainly because they'd had enough of the cost and difficulty of litigation. I for one would love to see a some libel judgments against some of these characters who deliberately lie. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Sep 24 01:46:37 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri Sep 24 01:46:40 2004 Subject: NY Times Jr. Cops Out Message-ID: <1575767.1096004797373.JavaMail.root@beaker.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Perhaps what they meant by "public" radio stations is NPR affiliates. WRIU, and most other non-comms in RI, are student programmed college stations. There are no other NPR affiliates, and the WRNI donors, who are now angry because they feel that their contributions were in vain, contributed specifically toward NPR programming (and "NPR style" local programming for RI from WBUR) on WRNI/WXNI. Though Rhode Island has other technically "public" stations, it has no other outlets for the NPR programming that was on WRNI/WXNI. Those listeners/contributors are not looking for college student radio. Eli Polonsky > Yesterday (09/22) the Boston Globe ran a WIRE story on the potential sale > of PRovidence's WRNI. It included the statement that WRNI was Rhode > Island's only public radio station. I e-mail a correction to > comments@globe.com, their submission e-mail address. I pointed out that > that the state had about a half-dozen stations between 88.1 and 91.9, the > span of frequencies for public FM's. I also noted that at least one of them, > WRIU-FM in Kingston was fairly strong and could be picked up by many > residents of Baja Massachusetts. Today, the Globe replied that the > correction would be forwarded to the Associated Press, the originator of > the story, and the paper itself probably won't print it. Duh. From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Sep 24 03:29:33 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Sep 24 03:29:44 2004 Subject: Hannity blackout on WTKK? Message-ID: <20040924072933.0D7A312CD3@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>After calling WTKK, I was told that since the majority of the Hannity/O&A discussion as going to be about XM Satellite Radio...that WTKK opted not to run a one hour plug for satellite radio. They ran the other hours though Oh, OK, that explains it! Thanks. I know the first hour was a repeat from the previous Friday and when I tuned into the second hour (interview with Lynne Cheney) I heard Sean say "we're about 43 days from the election" and I knew it was more like 40, so I thought, "maybe that's from Friday too, though I don't remember hearing it before..." And when I tuned in about 12:30 am, it was a re-run of Severin. That must have been the hour O&A were on. Was just curious what had happened--technical fluke or objection to material--and as you say, they didn't want to basically run a plug for XM! _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Sep 24 07:28:03 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Sep 24 07:28:06 2004 Subject: ESPN 900 WSNH Nashua NH, no more WMEX ? ? ? In-Reply-To: <009a01c4a1da$0b22f7c0$6f918318@Mark> References: <20040924011014.96129.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> <009a01c4a1da$0b22f7c0$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040924072052.01b1bc38@pop3.bit-net.com> Mark Watson wrote: > A couple of weeks ago WSNH added a daily 5 PM local sports talk show, >"Mike & The Muttman" and is the new flagship station for "Friday Night >Lights", which airs every Friday from 6-10 PM during the high school >football season. Mike & "The Muttman" host this show in studio, talking high >school football in between reports from their correspondents via cell phone >from various H.S. football games around NH. They mentioned at the start of >last Friday's show that "Friday Night Lights" is also heard on WMEX-FM >(106.5 Farmington) and WKBR (1250 Manchester) and that "FNL" , as well as >the daily 5 PM sports gab fest, are presented by "Absolute Broadcasting". This is most likely a brokered show..."Muttman's" previous sports talk show was...it aired on WSMN and WKXL until a contract dispute got them booted from studio space at WSMN. Given the nearly non-existent spot load doing oldies maybe they decided to go with something more saleable (or at least not require a local morning show)? Seems odd after recently changing to the "WMEX" imaging though. From tmw207@adelphia.net Fri Sep 24 11:52:33 2004 From: tmw207@adelphia.net (Terry Wood) Date: Fri Sep 24 11:52:47 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c4a24e$8361ccb0$72003518@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Seems your talking about the time Rush was going to save CBS....but the gay and lesbian lobby shouted him down. That is not a liberal or open minded audience. They were there to put the bigoted idiot in his place. Which, they did. I believe every bigot should be allowed to show that side of them self. Rush did. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Steve West Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 8:17 PM To: billings@suscom-maine.net; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org; kc1ih@mac.com Subject: Re: Air America dumped in Portland >That was the show where some open minded liberals tried to keep him from >talking by heckling. They had to clear a bunch of people out of the studio >so he could finsh the show. > Now hang on there, Daniel. You can't say 'open minded' and 'liberal' in the same sentence if they were trying to silence Limbaugh. If they were open minded, they would have wanted to listen to what Rush had to say. (GRIN) From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Sep 24 12:34:56 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Sep 24 12:34:56 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <000001c4a24e$8361ccb0$72003518@woodmvc1xkg0r1> References: <000001c4a24e$8361ccb0$72003518@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040924123131.01bfd758@pop3.bit-net.com> Terry Wood wrote: >Seems your talking about the time Rush was going to save CBS....but the >gay and lesbian lobby shouted him down. That is not a liberal or open >minded audience. They were there to put the bigoted idiot in his place. >Which, they did. I believe every bigot should be allowed to show that >side of them self. Rush did. And this proves what? That narrow minded bigots exist on both the left and right? That gays can be just as big jerks as straights? From dcassell@gmail.com Fri Sep 24 08:36:21 2004 From: dcassell@gmail.com (Damon Cassell) Date: Fri Sep 24 13:21:11 2004 Subject: Bird Choices In-Reply-To: <41533AD2.4070808@shoreham.net> References: <41533AD2.4070808@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <2979f9f4040924053610edf38d@mail.gmail.com> I have XM in my car; my father has Sirius in his house, and in his truck. Having been able to compare the two, I'd have to say Sirius has a better music lineup than XM. XM, on the other hand, has BBC World Service which is one of the reasons I picked it. Sirius only carries the BBC news feed which is not the same as World Service. More like CNN Headline News. I've found that I don't like listening to the BBC in my car as much as I do at home on my shortwave radio at night. Maybe it's just too 'heavy' for commuting. As a result, I now find myself listening to the music channels, and wishing I had bought Sirius instead. I also believe Sirius has a better selection of hardware. Damon On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:06:26 -0400, Bill O'Neill wrote: > Okay, heads or tails, Sirius vs. XM? I'm leaning Sirius since _every_ > salesperson has muttered under their breath that Sirius is superior. Or > is that just sales blather? > > Bill O'Neill > From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Sep 24 16:57:27 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Sep 24 16:57:35 2004 Subject: ESPN 900 WSNH Nashua NH, no more WMEX ? ? ? Message-ID: <20040924205727.4774BE5BC9@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> >From: SteveOrdinetz >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:28:03 -0400 >To: >Subject: Re: ESPN 900 WSNH Nashua NH, no more WMEX ? > This is most likely a brokered show..."Muttman's" previous sports talk show > was...it aired on WSMN and WKXL until a contract dispute got them booted > from studio space at WSMN. Given the nearly non-existent spot load doing > oldies maybe they decided to go with something more saleable (or at least > not require a local morning show)? Seems odd after recently changing to > the "WMEX" imaging though. > > Spot load? Remember that WCCM-AM 1490 COL Haverhill, "attempting" to serve the Merrimack Valley, was ESPN Radio for some time after the switch from 800 khz. It did nothing for WCCM's spot load, something I mentioned here several months ago. (All the "spots" I heard during newscasts were national, and not very prestigious: "People judge you bu the words you use", or hair growth potions, that type of thing.) It's odd that WSNH is going this route that apparently has failed for WCCM, WSMN and most notoriously WWZN (i.e. bird-fed sports). For a while Air america Radio listed WSNH as a future affiliate. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Sep 24 17:03:04 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Sep 24 17:03:35 2004 Subject: NY Times Jr. Cops Out Message-ID: <20040924210304.15170E5BC9@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:05:02 -0400 >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org,"Laurence Glavin" >Subject: Re: NY Times Jr. Cops Out > > Have you brought this to the attention of the Globe Ombudsman? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > I've taken all the steps I care to on this subject. I'm pretty sure the ombudsman figures the corrections department is like a lower court and he or she is the Supreme Court and this may not merit further review! -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Sep 24 17:09:03 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Sep 24 17:09:10 2004 Subject: NY Times Jr. Cops Out Message-ID: <20040924210903.465B1E5BCA@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> >From: Eli Polonsky >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:46:37 -0400 (GMT-04:00) >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Re: NY Times Jr. Cops Out > Perhaps what they meant by "public" radio stations is NPR affiliates. > > My comment to the corrections department (sort of sounds like a penal institution when you put it that way) did in fact begin by noting that not all "public" stations are as they say NPR-certified. They could have used that. WERS for example has a following (soon to be diminished by your departure) that recognizes it as a public station, although not even NPR or PRI programs overlooked by the Bif Two don't wind up there. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Sep 24 17:39:15 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri Sep 24 17:25:31 2004 Subject: NY Times Jr. Cops Out In-Reply-To: <20040924210903.465B1E5BCA@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: On 9/24/04 5:09 PM, "Laurence Glavin" wrote: >> From: Eli Polonsky >> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:46:37 -0400 (GMT-04:00) >> To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >> Subject: Re: NY Times Jr. Cops Out > > WERS for example has a following (soon to be diminished by > your departure) that recognizes it as a public station, > although not even NPR or PRI programs overlooked by the Bif > Two don't wind up there. Thanks for the compliment, but I've never been on WERS. The station on which I'm discontinuing my show after next week is WMBR at MIT. WERS has always been almost exclusively for Emerson College undergraduates, as the crown jewel of their communications program. I never went to Emerson. (WMBR is a student-run college station which was open to accepting outside community members, more so in the past than currently). By the same token, WERS is not interested in airing any network programming. It's airwaves are for developing and exhibiting the talents of their communications students. Some of the NPR/PRI musical programs not heard on WGBH or WBUR can be heard in the Boston area on WUMB 91.9, nights and weekends. (You may hear it on WNEF 91.7 up there). Eli Polonsky From scott@fybush.com Fri Sep 24 17:39:04 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Sep 24 17:38:49 2004 Subject: NY Times Jr. Cops Out In-Reply-To: <20040924210903.465B1E5BCA@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040924172638.031ccf10@gwind.pair.com> At 04:09 PM 9/24/2004 -0500, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > Perhaps what they meant by "public" radio stations is NPR affiliates. > >My comment to the corrections department (sort of sounds like >a penal institution when you put it that way) did in fact >begin by noting that not all "public" stations are as they say >NPR-certified. They could have used that. WERS for example >has a following (soon to be diminished by your departure) that >recognizes it as a public station, although not even NPR or >PRI programs overlooked by the Bif Two don't wind up there. Noting first that the term "public radio" wasn't even really used in the US broadcasting environment until about 1970, I'd draw a distinction between the WERSes and WBURs of the world. I would agree with the Globe in defining a public radio station as one that is listener- and underwriter-supported and which considers itself open to and answerable to the community at large. Secondary indicators would include qualification for Corporation for Public Broadcasting funding (which requires a certain level of power, minimum programming hours and a certain level of paid staff) and membership in National Public Radio and/or Public Radio International. In Boston, that would encompass WBUR, WGBH and WUMB. WERS and WMBR (which is actually where Eli's leaving next week, if I remember correctly) certainly have a community following and some level of community involvement, as does WRIU in Rhode Island. But they're funded primarily through non-public mechanisms (though WMBR does solicit listener contributions) and are not answerable in any sort of public way for their programming. (Which is not to say that a behemoth like WBUR really is, either, nowadays, but at least the theory says that it is.) At heart, though, WRIU (and all the other campus noncomms in Rhode Island) are student clubs, answerable only to the student body or perhaps the college administration. There's not a single station on the NCE band in Rhode Island that I'd classify as "public" radio in the sense in which the word is commonly understood. Mark this phrase down, as you won't often see it coming from my keyboard: The Globe got this one right. s From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Sep 24 17:38:56 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Sep 24 17:39:06 2004 Subject: NY Times Jr. Cops Out Message-ID: <20040924213856.4A8A7C610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Eli Polonsky Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:39:15 -0400 To: Laurence Glavin , Subject: Re: NY Times Jr. Cops Out > On 9/24/04 5:09 PM, "Laurence Glavin" wrote: > > >> From: Eli Polonsky > >> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:46:37 -0400 (GMT-04:00) > >> To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > >> Subject: Re: NY Times Jr. Cops Out > > > > WERS for example has a following (soon to be diminished by > > your departure) that recognizes it as a public station, > > although not even NPR or PRI programs overlooked by the Bif > > Two don't wind up there. > > Some of the NPR/PRI musical programs not heard on WGBH or > WBUR can be heard in the Boston area on WUMB 91.9, nights > and weekends. (You may hear it on WNEF 91.7 up there). > > Eli Polonsky > A couple of months ago, WUML-FM 91.5 in Loal (I use that spelling because of the commercioal that contains the line "there's a lot to like about Loal") was off the air for a day or so. This was after WPAA-FM 91.7 disappeared. I tried mightily to get a clear signal from WNEF, but it was FAR weaker than Mother Ship WUMB. I guess a DA, vertical-only signal doesn't make it in Massachusetts. (BTW, why do so many lower-powered non-comms utilize vertial antennas only?) -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Sep 24 17:51:45 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Sep 24 17:52:04 2004 Subject: NY Times Jr. Cops Out Message-ID: <20040924215145.EF6D2CA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >From: Scott Fybush >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:39:04 -0400 >To: "Laurence Glavin" ,"Eli Polonsky" ,boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: NY Times Jr. Cops Out > At 04:09 PM 9/24/2004 -0500, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > > > Perhaps what they meant by "public" radio stations is NPR affiliates. > > Noting first that the term "public radio" wasn't even really used in the US > broadcasting environment until about 1970, I'd draw a distinction between > the WERSes and WBURs of the world. > > I would agree with the Globe in defining a public radio station as one that > is listener- and underwriter-supported and which considers itself open to > and answerable to the community at large. > At heart, though, WRIU (and all the other campus noncomms in Rhode Island) > are student clubs, answerable only to the student body or perhaps the > college administration. There's not a single station on the NCE band in > Rhode Island that I'd classify as "public" radio in the sense in which the > word is commonly understood. > > Mark this phrase down, as you won't often see it coming from my keyboard: > The Globe got this one right. > > s > The comment "answerable only to the student body, etc" has one caveat: any station is answerable come renewal time. I don't recall ever listening to WRIU, but imagine this scenario: WRNI is in fact sold to a commercial interest that goes in a completely different direction, ethnic, "religious, etc. Then Rhode Islanders, used to what they heard on WRNI, tune in to WRIU, and the latter proves to be a juvenile jukebox. Then they form an association to deny WRIU's renewal unless the the station become a CPB, NPR authorized affiliate.Or failing that they set up a Rhode Island Public Broadcasting entity, a la NH Public Radio. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From scott@fybush.com Fri Sep 24 17:52:31 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Sep 24 17:52:27 2004 Subject: NY Times Jr. Cops Out In-Reply-To: <20040924213856.4A8A7C610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040924175013.031c0348@gwind.pair.com> >(BTW, why do so many lower-powered non-comms >utilize vertial antennas only?) To avoid interference to TV channel 6, inasmuch as most TV signals in the US are H-pol (though an increasing number have gone circular) and all outdoor receiving antennas are H-pol. One trick used by some DXers in search of signals via E-skip is to tweak the mounting of a Yagi antenna so it's vertically polarized. The skip scrambles the polarity of the received signal anyway, and so using a V-pol receive antenna reduces the signal from H-pol locals while still grabbing the randomly-polarized skip signals. s From scott@fybush.com Fri Sep 24 18:02:02 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Sep 24 18:02:01 2004 Subject: NY Times Jr. Cops Out In-Reply-To: <20040924215145.EF6D2CA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040924175618.0310ea00@gwind.pair.com> >The comment "answerable only to the student body, etc" has >one caveat: any station is answerable come renewal time. >I don't recall ever listening to WRIU, but imagine this >scenario: WRNI is in fact sold to a commercial interest that >goes in a completely different direction, ethnic, "religious, etc. >Then Rhode Islanders, used to what they heard on WRNI, tune in to >WRIU, and the latter proves to be a juvenile jukebox. Then they >form an association to deny WRIU's renewal unless the >the station become a CPB, NPR authorized affiliate.Or failing that >they set up a Rhode Island Public Broadcasting entity, >a la NH Public Radio. That might have worked in 1975, but not in 2004. The FCC no longer holds comparative hearings on license renewals. Absent evidence that a station has manifestly failed to meet the public convenience, interest and neccessity (a standard interpreted nowadays by the FCC as merely following the technical rules, keeping the public file in order and not showing microsecond flashes of pop stars' anatomy), the grant of a renewal is now automatic. I'm pretty sure the FCC wouldn't even entertain a competing application for the WRIU facilities come renewal time, which was the traditional way that such licenses were challenged back in the day. The best you could do, *if* you could show that WRIU was operating at less than the minimum operating schedule, would be to file for a new facility to operate on 90.3 on a shared-time basis. s From tmw207@adelphia.net Fri Sep 24 18:39:21 2004 From: tmw207@adelphia.net (Terry Wood) Date: Fri Sep 24 18:39:33 2004 Subject: Air America dumped in Portland In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040924123131.01bfd758@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <001201c4a287$576c3350$72003518@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Of course, if one disagreed with that assumption they would be bigots also > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf > Of SteveOrdinetz > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:35 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: RE: Air America dumped in Portland > > Terry Wood wrote: > >Seems your talking about the time Rush was going to save CBS....but the > >gay and lesbian lobby shouted him down. That is not a liberal or open > >minded audience. They were there to put the bigoted idiot in his place. > >Which, they did. I believe every bigot should be allowed to show that > >side of them self. Rush did. > > > And this proves what? That narrow minded bigots exist on both the left > and > right? That gays can be just as big jerks as straights? > From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Sep 24 19:31:55 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Sep 24 19:31:56 2004 Subject: ESPN 900 WSNH Nashua NH, no more WMEX ? ? ? In-Reply-To: <20040924205727.4774BE5BC9@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20040924205727.4774BE5BC9@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040924192943.01c03808@pop3.bit-net.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: > For a while Air america Radio >listed WSNH as a future affiliate. The way I heard it, AA approached WSNH and was told, "thanks, but we'll pass". Apparently they took this as "maybe". From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Sep 24 19:54:16 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Sep 24 19:54:21 2004 Subject: Interesting Underwriting Message-ID: <007a01c4a291$ccdf7250$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> News/Talk 560 WGAN Portland has bought underwriting announcements on Maine Public Radio during All Things Considered and Maine Things Considered. Interesting to see a commercial radio station advertising on public radio. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Sep 24 21:01:31 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Sep 24 21:01:34 2004 Subject: Hannity blackout on WTKK? Message-ID: <200409242101.AA1076101456@mail.ttlc.net> Atty Ross, My tongue was firmly planted in the side of my mouth when I posted that. A fatally misguided attempt at humour. Sorry, Roger ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "A. Joseph Ross" Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:05:02 -0400 >On 23 Sep 2004 at 16:14, rogerkirk wrote: > >> Why - THAT'S CENSORSHIP! >> >> I'm Outraged! > >It's not censorship. It's editorship. Censorship is when the government prevents publication >of something. Private companies have the right to decide what goes out on their facilities. > >-- >A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com >Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > From n1qgs@yahoo.com Fri Sep 24 22:17:04 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Fri Sep 24 22:17:08 2004 Subject: ESPN Message-ID: <20040925021704.75974.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> Did we fail to note that WKBR 1250 AM Manchester is ESPN sports from about 6PM to 6AM now, just up the road from WSNH 900 aM Nashua. They still have local / national talk during the day. I'm not sure when ABC? Country went away at night from WKBR, but it's ESPN now. John Derry NH From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Sep 25 03:18:38 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Sep 25 03:18:48 2004 Subject: Interesting Underwriting Message-ID: <20040925071838.9131D3983@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Interesting to see a commercial radio station advertising on public radio Speaking of which, I've gotten a couple tapes of some Toronto stations, Foxy 88.5 and Jazz FM (91.1) and they seem to be hybrids of public and commercial. Of course, Canada doesn't restrict non-commercial stations to between 88 and 92 MHz as we do. At least it seems that way. So you'd hear a commercial, followed by "music on Jazz FM is under-written in part by..." Of course, some say that public radio/ public TV underwriting announcements are pretty close to commercials, as it is... So, I wonder...what if the FCC were to nix the "non-comm. only" rule for "left side of the dial"? Instead of having pledge drives, a station like WGBH-FM could be like that commercial/public hybrid I mentioned: example: blues songs on "Blues on GBH" Commercial: Ben and Jerry's Commercial: Land's End Promo for "All Things Considered" Donorship acknowledgement Back to music ...and perhaps with commercials being accepted, there would be no need for federal funding ...? Oh well, silly idea...The commercial radio interests would soon be putting the same-old-same-old on those frequencies. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From steveord@bit-net.com Sat Sep 25 06:49:35 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Sep 25 06:49:38 2004 Subject: ESPN In-Reply-To: <20040925021704.75974.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040925021704.75974.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040925064648.01b17e88@pop3.bit-net.com> John Bolduc wrote: >Did we fail to note that WKBR 1250 AM Manchester is ESPN sports from >about 6PM to 6AM now, just up the road from WSNH 900 aM Nashua. They >still have local / national talk during the day. I'm not sure when ABC? >Country went away at night from WKBR, but it's ESPN now. Not to mention that WTPL/107.7 is also sports (mostly ESPN when there isn't a Sox game) after 6pm and has been for several years. No shortage of places to get your fix of sports talk. From billo@shoreham.net Sat Sep 25 08:08:08 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Sep 25 08:08:16 2004 Subject: Interesting Underwriting In-Reply-To: <20040925071838.9131D3983@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20040925071838.9131D3983@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <41555FA8.6040707@shoreham.net> Bob Nelson wrote: >>>Interesting to see a commercial radio station advertising on public radio 92.5 in Montreal has been underwriting Vermont Public Television for years. (A rim shot in Burlington, better in Plattsburgh.) Bill O'Neill Shoreham, Vt. From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Sep 25 14:08:39 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Sep 25 14:08:54 2004 Subject: Interesting Underwriting Message-ID: <20040925180839.3B70FCA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Bill O'Neill" >Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 08:08:08 -0400 >To: raccoonradio@myway.com >Subject: Re: Interesting Underwriting > Bob Nelson wrote: > >>>Interesting to see a commercial radio station advertising on public radio > > 92.5 in Montreal has been underwriting Vermont Public Television for > years. (A rim shot in Burlington, better in Plattsburgh.) > > Bill O'Neill > Shoreham, Vt. > WLVI-TV, channel 56, has used underwriting message on WBUR-FM to promote its 10 o'clock news for months. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Sep 25 23:53:22 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Sep 25 23:53:36 2004 Subject: "shock jock forerunner" Bill Ballance has died Message-ID: <20040926035322.9E9E112CDA@mprdmxin.myway.com> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227247/posts "Bill Ballance, a radio personality whose bold 1970s talk show tackled relationships and sex and helped pave the way for today's shock jocks, has died at age 85. (His show "Feminine Forum") provoked anger among women's rights activists, who accused him of exploiting callers." AP's article mentions that his show was a forerunner for "shock jocks" like Stern and Leykis; and that he caused more controversy when he sold nude photos of Dr. Laura. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Sep 26 00:44:56 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Sep 26 00:44:59 2004 Subject: Hannity blackout on WTKK? In-Reply-To: <200409242101.AA1076101456@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <41561108.26999.4FD229@localhost> On 24 Sep 2004 at 21:01, rogerkirk wrote: > My tongue was firmly planted in the side of my mouth > when I posted that. A fatally misguided attempt at > humour. I thought as much, but I still couldn't resist correcting the record. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sun Sep 26 03:56:41 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sun Sep 26 03:56:50 2004 Subject: "shock jock forerunner" Bill Ballance has died References: <20040926035322.9E9E112CDA@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <00a101c4a39e$5ed20940$1404fea9@xyz> > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227247/posts > > "Bill Ballance, a radio personality whose bold 1970s talk show tackled relationships and sex and helped pave the way for today's shock jocks, has died at age 85. (His show "Feminine Forum") provoked anger among women's rights activists, who accused him of exploiting callers." He was also, if I am correct, the one who exposed the semi-nude pictures of Dr. Laura Schlessinger for cash. From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Sep 26 10:39:58 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Sep 26 10:40:11 2004 Subject: Bill Ballance has died Message-ID: <20040926143958.76AE939B7@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>He was also, if I am correct, the one who exposed the semi-nude pictures of Dr. Laura Schlessinger for cash. Right; think I had mentioned that, and the AP article does. In addition Ballance was at "Color Radio" KFWB (I think those were the calls) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Sep 27 01:12:39 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Sep 27 01:11:58 2004 Subject: "shock jock forerunner" Bill Ballance has died In-Reply-To: <00a101c4a39e$5ed20940$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <41576907.20882.5D07E3@localhost> On 26 Sep 2004 at 3:56, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > He was also, if I am correct, the one who exposed the semi-nude pictures > of Dr. Laura Schlessinger for cash. I've seen them, and there's nothing "semi" about them. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Sep 27 20:34:11 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon Sep 27 20:34:33 2004 Subject: WBIX on at night Message-ID: <000b01c4a4f2$e69b6100$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Tonight, WBIX began operating at night with something greater than the couple of watts it had been running under PSSA from Philadelphia sunset until two hours after Natick sunset. The power probably isn't the full 2500W authorized in the station's CP for night service, but it may be more than the 330W authorized in the program test authority granted by the FCC on August 18. If WBIX is, in fact, currently running just 330W at night, the 2500W signal (when and if it gets on the air) will be surprisingly good at my location. According to Bob Carpenter's AMSTNS program, even though WBIX's CP authorized construction of 2500W facilities and co-located WAMG 890 runs 3400W at night, WBIX's 2500W night signal in the direction of my house is supposed to be just a little bit stronger than WAMGs--the result of WAMG's significantly narrower pattern. It has been almost 25 years since 1060 as WGTR first put its ill-fated night signal on the air. Over the last few years, several owners have plowed a lot of money into WBIX's night signal. It's good to have another AM signal on the air in English at night in Boston. although not so good that WBIX is broadcasting Bruce Williams's DULL program, which is also carried on WBNW (about three seconds earlier). Even if WBIX is running only 330W at night, the signal is better than WBNW's--maybe not as loud, but there is less interference, and a lot less distortion. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Sep 29 03:29:40 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Sep 29 03:29:49 2004 Subject: BRW: 'RKO re-united Pat and Marge Message-ID: <20040929072940.25E7B39FF@mprdmxin.myway.com> Boston Radio Watch reports that those promos for 'RKO debate coverage with Clapprood and Whitley are only the beginning. Pat and Marge will be doing a Saturday 10 am- 2 pm gig starting this week. And up in Radio Heaven, Jerry Williams is sure to start complaining about the cigarette smoke filtering up from the studio... :) http://www.bostonradiowatch.com _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Sep 29 03:31:53 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Sep 29 03:32:01 2004 Subject: 60s/70s oldies on WNSH (at least overnight) Message-ID: <20040929073153.56DA83A02@mprdmxin.myway.com> Noticed tonight that WNSH 1570 Beverly was doing birdfed oldies of 60s/70s instead of right-wing talk. This was about 3 am...not sure if they're just doing it overnights, or if it'll be displacing the talk shows during the day. Presumably if they've dumped talk, they will still have weekend shows (country, local music, "Radio Minestrone", etc.) example of songs played: Love Grows Where My Rosemary Goes Penny Lane Have You Ever Seen the Rain Baby I Need Your Lovin' Tighter, Tighter _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Sep 29 07:55:33 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Sep 29 07:55:55 2004 Subject: WBIX Message-ID: <000701c4a61b$3f6f40c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Night two (9/28-9/29): WBIX was on continuously from local sunset (7:00 PM) until local sunrise this morning (6:30 AM). OK, I didn't have the radio on continuously, but every time I tuned in, the signal was there. On night two, WBIX appeared to be running Bruce Williams continuously until the start of regular programming at 6:00 AM, and it sounded as if what was playing was a loop of one hour of William's show from the day before. (I even caught the tail end of a day-old USA Network newscast.) I don't know whether permission to go on the air with enough power to be heard in many parts of the market took station management by susprise and that that's why they hadn't put together something a bit more creative, or whether the essentially content-free "programming" indicates the station's plans for the future. There are a lot of good syndicated talk shows in the evenings and overnight that aren't heard in the Boston market. Of these, my favorites are Phil Hendrie (Premiere), David Lawrence (Salem), and Joey Reynolds (WOR). None of these qualifies as a financial show, but Tom Martino is not heard in this market (except on WCAP, which isn't really a Boston-market station), and I'm sure the program could be rerun at a time WBIX found convenient. In my opinion, WBIX would not hurt its reputation as Boston's financial talk station if it ran non-financial talk in the evenings and overnights. A year ago, WBIX had announced plans to carry (IIRC) Harvard hockey but wasn't able to do it because the night signal didn't make it to the air. The brokered PBP was heard instead on WROL 950 and WSRO 650. This year, WBIX's new ownership has apparently decided on a very cautious approach to publicizing the 24/7 operation. Other than an archive of photos dating back to last winter showing the construction at the Ashland night site, I've seen nothing on the station's Web site and heard nothing on the air since the conclusion of tests of the night signal during daylight hours that mentions the new full-time service. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Wed Sep 29 11:45:59 2004 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Wed Sep 29 11:46:06 2004 Subject: WBIX In-Reply-To: <000701c4a61b$3f6f40c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <000701c4a61b$3f6f40c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20040929111221.020c8508@pop.gis.net> At 07:55 AM 9/29/2004, Dan Strassberg wrote: >A year ago, WBIX had announced plans to carry (IIRC) Harvard hockey but >wasn't able to do it because the night signal didn't make it to the air. The >brokered PBP was heard instead on WROL 950 and WSRO 650. I am confused.....aren't both WROL and WSRO daytimers ? Why go from one daytimer to another ? No, WSRO's 9 watts does not cover much more than Framingham and adjacent towns so it is a daytimer in reality. From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Sep 29 11:53:22 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Sep 29 11:53:35 2004 Subject: WNSH oldies Message-ID: <20040929155322.777ED3A4F@mprdmxin.myway.com> It sounds like WNSH is indeed doing 60s/70s oldies full-time on weekdays, not just overnights. They just played King Harvest ("Dancin' in the Moonlight") and Brooklyn Bridge ("The Worst That Could Happen"), followed by ads for a Peabody-based carpet service, a restaurant in Essex, and so on. Owner Keating Willcox probably figured he could attract more advertisers with a broad-based 60s/70s pop sound than talk...but again, I'm guessing the weekend specialty shows (Tracks of the Town, Radio Minestrone, North Shore Jamboree, etc.) will stay. Former WMWM DJ Ed Tracchia has been heard on Saturday afternoons at 'NSH doing political talk, under the name "Joe Bag". He was reading an excerpt from an Ann Coulter book last week. (I know it's him from his voice; I think Joe is his middle name and I've heard him call up Howie Carr as "Joe from Peabody", plus he's released a spoken-word cassette as "Joe Bag"). _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From ssmyth@psu.edu Wed Sep 29 12:03:29 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed Sep 29 12:03:35 2004 Subject: WBIX Message-ID: <200409291603.MAA09683@webmail8.cac.psu.edu> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:45:59 +0000, Ron Bello wrote: > I am confused.....aren't both WROL and WSRO daytimers ? > Why go from one daytimer to another ? WROL is a daytimer with 90 watts at night, hitting right in the city very well. > No, WSRO's 9 watts does not cover much more than Framingham > and adjacent towns so it is a daytimer in reality. Adjacent towns? Framingham, maybe, if lucky. From elipolo@earthlink.net Wed Sep 29 13:01:42 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Wed Sep 29 12:47:35 2004 Subject: WBIX In-Reply-To: <200409291600.i8TG02d6089380@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: From: Ron Bello Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:45:59 -0400 To: "Dan Strassberg" , "Boston Radio Interest" Subject: Re: WBIX > From: Ron Bello > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:45:59 -0400 > To: "Dan Strassberg" , "Boston Radio Interest" > > Subject: Re: WBIX > > I am confused.....aren't both WROL and WSRO daytimers ? > Why go from one daytimer to another ? > No, WSRO's 9 watts does not cover much more than Framingham > and adjacent towns so it is a daytimer in reality. Yes, but WROL's 90 watts at night does fairly well within most of Route 128. Eli Polonsky From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Sep 29 12:51:25 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Sep 29 12:52:09 2004 Subject: Fw: WBIX Message-ID: <000801c4a644$a3e38380$19eefea9@satpro4600> Drat! I hit Reply, rather than Reply all. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Strassberg To: Ron Bello Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:46 PM Subject: Re: WBIX > Both WROL and WSRO, though Class D AMs, operate full time--as does WJIB, for > example. WROL is licensed to operate with about 90W at night, and thanks to > a very good Tx location, the signal reaches essentially all of the Boston > shoreline via a salt-water path. So WROL delivers a pretty good night signal > to most, if not all, of the City of Boston. WSRO runs full power (250W) for > the first hour after sunset, about 50W until Nashville sunset (which, in > most months, coincides with the second hour after local sunset), and then 9W > after that. WSRO probably also has pre-sunrise authority at something higher > than 9W, although I don't know at what power. WROL's PSRA is at 500W. WBIX, > as a daytimer, did not have authority to operate more than two hours past > local sunset. WBIX did have (and used) a PSRA at rather low power. The only > other time outside of daylight hours that WBIX, as a daytimer, could operate > with appreciable power was between Natick (actually Framingham, I think--the > day site is in Framingham) sunset and Philadelphia sunset. WBIX probably ran > 500W--possibly with the Critical Hours pattern--during those 15 minutes each > day. For the next 45 minutes, the power was so low that the station became > truly inuadible except in the immediate vicinity of the daytime transmitter > on Mt Wayte Ave in Framingham. During the next hour, the power was lower > still. Therefore, the signal after Philadelphia sunset was essentially > useless for practical purposes. > > Besides WROL, WSRO, and WJIB, the Boston-area daytimers that I can think of > that are licensed to operate full time are WJDA, WLYN, and WNSH. The > Boston-area daytimers that I can think of that are not licensed to operate > at night are WILD and WNTN. WILD does, however, operate at significantly > reduced, albeit useful, power between Boston sunset and Baltimore sunset (in > most months, 1/2 hour after Boston sunset). > > WBIX was originally granted (on August 18th--following well over a month of > on-air testing during daylight hours) program test authority to use its new > night pattern at night with 330W. Sometime after that, the FCC apparently > modified the program test authority to allow operation at or very close to > the 2500W specified in the station's CP to add night service. The > modification of the program test authority was probably made when the FCC > granted WBIX's application to modify its CP by adding augmentations to the > standard pattern to reflect the measured signal-strength values. I believe > that grant was made on September 15. The standard patterns of most US AM > stations are augmented. (WBIX's night and CH patterns are; its day pattern > is not.) No broadcast engineer in his right mind would believe that a tight > standard pattern, such as WBIX's night pattern, could be adjusted to produce > the theoretical signal strengths. Nevertheless, I am unsure whether WBIX is > currently running the full 2500W at night. I could easily believe that the > current night power is in the neighborhood of 1250W. The final step will be > granting of a license to cover, which sometimes takes a year or longer. > Until the license is granted, WBIX may be running less than 2500W at night. > > BTW, WROL filed an application last January during the the AM major-change > filing window to change its COL to Revere and add night service with 1 kW > from a three-tower in-line array that would be located a couple of miles > west-northwest of the daytime transmitter site, which is on Route 107 in > Saugus. I gather that the station's engineers thought that a triplex with > co-owned WTTT 1150 and colocated WAZN 1470 wouldn't be practical. My cursory > analysis showed that a COL change to Belmont would have permitted WROL to > operate from the WTTT site at night with just about the same 1 kW as WROL > proposes from Revere. The WTTT towers are very nicely arranged to permit a > night pattern quite similar to the one WROL is proposing for Revere. And > unlike the proposed Revere operation, night operation from the WTTT site > would not waste a large portion of the nighttime interference-free coverage > area over salt water. > -- > > Dan Strassberg > dan.strassberg@att.net > Fax: 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron Bello > To: Dan Strassberg ; Boston Radio Interest > > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 11:45 AM > Subject: Re: WBIX > > > > At 07:55 AM 9/29/2004, Dan Strassberg wrote: > > > > >A year ago, WBIX had announced plans to carry (IIRC) Harvard hockey but > > >wasn't able to do it because the night signal didn't make it to the air. > The > > >brokered PBP was heard instead on WROL 950 and WSRO 650. > > > > I am confused.....aren't both WROL and WSRO daytimers ? > > Why go from one daytimer to another ? > > No, WSRO's 9 watts does not cover much more than Framingham > > and adjacent towns so it is a daytimer in reality. > > > > > > > From elipolo@earthlink.net Wed Sep 29 13:10:09 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Wed Sep 29 12:56:02 2004 Subject: WNSH oldies In-Reply-To: <200409291600.i8TG02d6089380@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: > From: "Bob Nelson" > Reply-To: raccoonradio@myway.com > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:53:22 -0400 (EDT) > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: re: WNSH oldies > > It sounds like WNSH is indeed doing 60s/70s oldies full-time on weekdays, not > just overnights. They just played King Harvest ("Dancin' in the Moonlight") > and Brooklyn Bridge ("The Worst That Could Happen"), followed by ads for a > Peabody-based carpet service, a restaurant in Essex, and so on. Owner Keating > Willcox probably figured he could attract more advertisers with a broad-based > 60s/70s pop sound than talk... Maybe, but it seems like with WBOQ 104.9 going oldies recently, and of course WODS coming in as if next door, that the North Shore is getting saturated with oldies on (better sounding) FM. The satellite service on WESX is now more like "soft oldies" of the 60's and 70's than the Adult Standards that it used to be as well. Eli From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Sep 29 15:37:15 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Sep 29 15:37:33 2004 Subject: WNSH oldies Message-ID: <20040929193715.EFAF73981@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Maybe, but it seems like with WBOQ 104.9 going oldies recently, and of course WODS coming in as if next door, that the North Shore is getting saturated with oldies on (better sounding) FM It sounds similar to WBOQ and fairly similar to WESX...oldies overload or what? But I'm guessing it's an easier sell than talk...good "background listening at work", maybe. Willcox may have felt it would draw more listeners in, or it would be more attractive to advertisers. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Sep 29 16:56:27 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Sep 29 16:56:55 2004 Subject: LTAR To Return Sunday Oct 3rd Message-ID: <20040929205627.CB86F3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Bob Bittner posted to radio-info.com/Boston that "Let's Talk About Radio" will return this coming Sunday, October 3rd at 11:00 am on WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge, Mass. It will be approximately one hour in length, like summer before last, and appear once-a-month. This Sunday's show will repeat on Sunday, Oct 10th from 9:00 am till about 10:00 am on WJTO-AM 730 in Bahth, ME. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From markwats@comcast.net Wed Sep 29 18:13:33 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Wed Sep 29 18:13:46 2004 Subject: Scott Muni Has Passed Away Message-ID: <000901c4a671$91201290$6f918318@Mark> All Access reports that legendary New York City radio personality Scott Muni passed away last night at the age of 74. He had been recovering from a stroke he suffered earlier this year. Muni had been on the air in the New York City market since the late 50's, when he was one of the WMCA "Good Guys". He also worked at WABC, WOR-FM, WNEW-FM, where he worked for 31 years, and until his health problems, he was hosting a daily one hour show on WAXQ (Q104.3). Muni was also heard nationally (and I'm sure in New England too) via syndicated shows he had over the years, "Ticket To Ride" and "Scott Muni's World Of Rock". He had interviewed many rock musicians over the years as well. The Q104.3 website www.q1043.com has a tribute to Scott Muni, including audio clips. Mark Watson From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Sep 29 20:45:38 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Wed Sep 29 20:45:44 2004 Subject: WGAN radio may drop Rather Message-ID: <006a01c4a686$ce2adac0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Portland radio station WGAN (560 AM) is considering dropping TV newsman Dan Rather from its daily lineup of CBS news programming. http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/040929wgan.shtml From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Sep 29 21:54:56 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (dlh@donnahalper.com) Date: Wed Sep 29 21:54:59 2004 Subject: WGAN radio may drop Rather Message-ID: <200409300154.i8U1suq1001139@mail8.atl.registeredsite.com> Dan B wrote-- > Portland radio station WGAN (560 AM) is considering dropping TV newsman Dan > Rather from its daily lineup of CBS news programming. How silly. The majority of the public has moved on. Even USA Today, not exactly a liberal news source, did a poll and found the majority of Americans feel Rather just made a mistake. I fail to see why he should be dropped from WGAN. From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Sep 29 22:02:22 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (dlh@donnahalper.com) Date: Wed Sep 29 22:02:25 2004 Subject: Scott Muni Has Passed Away Message-ID: <200409300202.i8U22MGe006223@mail10.atl.registeredsite.com> Mark wrote-- > All Access reports that legendary New York City radio personality Scott > Muni passed away last night at the age of 74. The NY Times has his obit, from Associated Press, but I am sure by tomorrow, they will write one up. I knew Scott for many years. He was always kind to me and I will miss him. As I said on another list, he was one of the last of that style of announcer who saw being a d.j. as an art; he related to the listener in a very knowledgeable way without acting superior and without talking down to anyone. I wonder how he felt about the changes that occurred in radio during the many years that he was in album rock... From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Wed Sep 29 22:08:39 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Wed Sep 29 22:08:46 2004 Subject: WGAN radio may drop Rather In-Reply-To: <200409300154.i8U1suq1001139@mail8.atl.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <20040930020839.34560.qmail@web52303.mail.yahoo.com> > > Portland radio station WGAN (560 AM) is > considering dropping TV newsman Dan > > Rather from its daily lineup of CBS news > programming. > > How silly. The majority of the public has moved on. Yeah, but this is just the latest Dan Ratherism. His credibility is damaged in the minds of many people...either by his mistake...or an unconscious bias. And with Mary Mapes making calls to the DNC putting sources in contact with Lockhart, etc. Something is amiss. I assume the station might be doing this for publicity. But, I assume, that when his commentary airs, that some people roll their eyes...and the station just might be reflecting the opinion of their listeners. However, because Rather might not seem to represent the zenith of journalism right now doesn't preclude him from offerring commentary, does it? Then again, don't stations run commentaries from a colorful array of characters? ===== Joe Pappalardo joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Sep 29 22:19:36 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Wed Sep 29 22:19:41 2004 Subject: WGAN radio may drop Rather References: <20040930020839.34560.qmail@web52303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008c01c4a693$eed38760$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Pappalardo" To: ; "Daniel Billings" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 10:08 PM Subject: Re: WGAN radio may drop Rather >> I assume the station might be doing this for > publicity. They did get a big headline on the local page with the call letters in the headline. That doesn't happen very often. >But, I assume, that when his commentary > airs, that some people roll their eyes...and the > station just might be reflecting the opinion of their > listeners. WGAN does not run his commentary. They run the 5 PM CBS radio cast that he anchors. From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Sep 29 22:33:57 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Sep 29 22:33:56 2004 Subject: WGAN radio may drop Rather In-Reply-To: <200409300154.i8U1suq1001139@mail8.atl.registeredsite.com> References: <200409300154.i8U1suq1001139@mail8.atl.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040929222657.01b7c8c8@pop3.bit-net.com> At 09:54 PM 9/29/2004, dlh@donnahalper.com wrote: >Dan B wrote-- > > > Portland radio station WGAN (560 AM) is considering dropping TV newsman > Dan > > Rather from its daily lineup of CBS news programming. > >How silly. The majority of the public has moved on. Even USA Today, not >exactly a liberal news source, did a poll and found the majority of >Americans feel Rather just made a mistake. I fail to see why he should be >dropped from WGAN. It's symbolism and nothing else. It makes no less (or more) sense than dropping Rush Limbaugh from ESPN commentary because of a politically incorrect remark. It's a tempest in a teapot...other than anchoring the 5pm newscast, I don't think Dan has much presence on CBS radio anyway. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Sep 30 01:17:31 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Sep 30 01:17:26 2004 Subject: LTAR To Return Sunday Oct 3rd In-Reply-To: <20040929205627.CB86F3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <415B5EAB.8548.721A72@localhost> On 29 Sep 2004 at 15:56, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Bob Bittner posted to radio-info.com/Boston that "Let's Talk > About Radio" will return this coming Sunday, October 3rd at 11:00 > am on WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge, Mass. It will be approximately > one hour in length, like summer before last, and appear once-a-month. This > Sunday's show will repeat on Sunday, Oct 10th from 9:00 am till about > 10:00 am on WJTO-AM 730 in Bahth, ME. -- This is welcome news. I've really missed LTAR. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Sep 30 01:17:32 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Sep 30 01:20:11 2004 Subject: WGAN radio may drop Rather In-Reply-To: <20040930020839.34560.qmail@web52303.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200409300154.i8U1suq1001139@mail8.atl.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <415B5EAC.16567.721B68@localhost> On 29 Sep 2004 at 19:08, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > Yeah, but this is just the latest Dan Ratherism. > > His credibility is damaged in the minds of many > people...either by his mistake...or an unconscious > bias. > > And with Mary Mapes making calls to the DNC putting > sources in contact with Lockhart, etc. > > Something is amiss. Who's Mary Mapes? As for something amiss, Marvin Kalb, appearing last week on the Connection, wondered whether CBS was set up for this. His reasoning is that the Bush Administration doesn't like Dan Rather and, he said, the Republican campaign was e-mailing the famous letter to various outlets while the 60 Minutes II report was still airing. I don't know whether CBS was set up, but it sounds at least possible, given what we already know about the Republican Dirty Tricks operation. Prepare an inept forgery, pass it somehow to a rabid Bush-hater who won't bother to question it, let him bring it to CBS, and then rely on the laziness of present-day journalism to do the rest. The payoff is that they discredit CBS and Dan Rather and have everyone talking about the forgery, rather than about Bush's dodging his National Guard service. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Sep 30 01:48:56 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Sep 30 01:49:05 2004 Subject: WGAN radio may drop Rather Message-ID: <200409300148.AA555614374@mail.ttlc.net> "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: >Marvin Kalb, appearing last week on the Connection, wondered >whether CBS was set up for this. > >I don't know whether CBS was set up, but it sounds at least possible, >given what we already know about the Republican Dirty Tricks >operation. Prepare an inept forgery, pass it somehow to a rabid Bush- >hater who won't bother to question it, let him bring it to CBS, and >then rely on the laziness of present-day journalism to do the rest. >The payoff is that they discredit CBS and Dan Rather and have everyone >talking about the forgery, rather than about Bush's dodging his >National Guard service. I'm waiting for standard GOP response: "That's ludicrous, preposterous and pure nonsense!" Just dismiss it offhand. From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Sep 30 02:07:24 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Sep 30 02:10:26 2004 Subject: WGAN radio may drop Rather References: <200409300154.i8U1suq1001139@mail8.atl.registeredsite.com> <415B5EAC.16567.721B68@localhost> Message-ID: <014701c4a6b4$26469320$1404fea9@xyz> > Who's Mary Mapes? I believe she is the producer that basically put the story together....contacted the DNC and put the memo guy from Texas in touch with Joe Lockhart at the Kerry Campain. > I don't know whether CBS was set up, but it sounds at least possible, given what we already > know about the Republican Dirty Tricks operation. Prepare an inept forgery, pass it > somehow to a rabid Bush-hater who won't bother to question it, let him bring it to CBS, and > then rely on the laziness of present-day journalism to do the rest. > The payoff is that they discredit CBS and Dan Rather and have everyone talking about the > forgery, rather than about Bush's dodging his National Guard service. It looks more like the "Democratic Dirty Tricks operation"...but they are lily white and would never do such a thing, right? There has been no evidence to show that he "dodged" his NG service. Rather than look for blame...it is what it is. Dan Rather took to the air with forged documents to attempt to discredit the president. No matter who set it up or why....the journalist failed to do his job...and the stakes were pretty high. Never mind the behind the scenes phone calls to the Kerry campain. It doesn't pass the smell test. And this is just the latest of many "Ratherisms". End result...Dan Rather and CBS have hurt their credibility. Everyone else may respond as they see fit...including WGAN. > It's a tempest in a teapot...other than anchoring the 5pm newscast, I don't > think Dan has much presence on CBS radio anyway. I thought he still did a daily commentary...with his tag line before commercials: "Now please, this message..." From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Sep 30 07:56:30 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Sep 30 07:56:30 2004 Subject: WGAN radio may drop Rather In-Reply-To: <415B5EAC.16567.721B68@localhost> References: <200409300154.i8U1suq1001139@mail8.atl.registeredsite.com> <415B5EAC.16567.721B68@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040930075318.01b9bea0@pop3.bit-net.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: >As for something amiss, Marvin Kalb, appearing last week on the >Connection, wondered >whether CBS was set up for this. His reasoning is that the Bush >Administration doesn't like >Dan Rather and, he said, the Republican campaign was e-mailing the famous >letter to >various outlets while the 60 Minutes II report was still airing. > >I don't know whether CBS was set up, but it sounds at least possible, >given what we already >know about the Republican Dirty Tricks operation. Prepare an inept >forgery, pass it >somehow to a rabid Bush-hater who won't bother to question it, let him >bring it to CBS, and >then rely on the laziness of present-day journalism to do the rest. Your last statement was the key. CBS was guilty of sloppy journalism. They got fed some dirt and put it on the air without verifying it's authenticity. They set themselves up for this. From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Sep 30 17:01:28 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Sep 30 17:01:37 2004 Subject: LTAR To Return Sunday Oct 3rd Message-ID: <20040930210128.5172ACA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:17:31 -0400 >To: "Laurence Glavin" >Subject: Re: LTAR To Return Sunday Oct 3rd > On 29 Sep 2004 at 15:56, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > > Bob Bittner posted to radio-info.com/Boston that "Let's Talk > > About Radio" will return this coming Sunday, October 3rd at 11:00 > > am on WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge, Mass. It will be approximately > > one hour in length, like summer before last, and appear once-a-month. This > > Sunday's show will repeat on Sunday, Oct 10th from 9:00 am till about > > 10:00 am on WJTO-AM 730 in Bahth, ME. -- > > This is welcome news. I've really missed LTAR. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > Ever Sunday at 11:00 am I've been checking WJIB just in case some breaking story caused Bob to put together a show, but forget to announce it! -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From markwats@comcast.net Thu Sep 30 17:11:50 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Sep 30 17:12:01 2004 Subject: Air America On WXKS & WKOX Monday 10/4 Message-ID: <003301c4a732$1be28550$6f918318@Mark> All Access reports that the long rumored arrivail of Air America in the Boston market will take place on Monday Oct.4. That when the standards on WXKS (1430 Everett) and brokered ethinc programs on WKOX (1200 Framingham) will be replaced by the likes of Al Franken and Randi Rhodes, plus some offerings from the Jones Radio Network. All Access also reports that Dennis O'Heron will be the program director for the WXKS/WKOX simulcast. Mark Watson From w1mex@lycos.com Thu Sep 30 20:26:52 2004 From: w1mex@lycos.com (KEVIN GOODWIN) Date: Thu Sep 30 20:27:02 2004 Subject: Scott Muni Has Passed Away Message-ID: <20041001002652.967C2E5BCA@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:02:22 -0400 To: "Mark Watson" Subject: Re: Scott Muni Has Passed Away > > Mark wrote-- > > All Access reports that legendary New York City radio personality Scott > > Muni passed away last night at the age of 74. > > The NY Times has his obit, from Associated Press, but I am sure by tomorrow, they will write one up. I knew Scott for many years. He was always kind to me and I will miss him. As I said on another list, he was one of the last of that style of announcer who saw being a d.j. as an art; he related to the listener in a very knowledgeable way without acting superior and without talking down to anyone. I wonder how he felt about the changes that occurred in radio during the many years that he was in album rock... > I remember when WMEX was on 1150. I remember they used to run Scott Muni's Ticket to Ride his show on the Beatles. I beleive they ran the show on Sunday mornings if I am not mistaken. I beleive the shows were on vynal records back in those days. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Sep 30 21:33:29 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Sep 30 21:33:36 2004 Subject: Air America finds it's way to Boston Message-ID: <20041001013329.1667.qmail@web52302.mail.yahoo.com> >From BRW... --------------- Liberal talk radio's Air America Radio network has found a home in the Boston area Starting midnight Thursday, it will be heard on Medford's WXKS AM 1430 and Framingham's WKOX AM 1200. Both stations will launch a new talk format on Monday morning (October 4th) at 6am and will be nicknamed"Progressive Talk AM 1200 and 1430'. Fans of WXKS-AM 1430's nostalgic "Boston's Original Hits" format which has been on that frequency, in one form or another, since January 1980, will have to look elsewhere on the dial to hear the similar format. Air America Radio, which has been on the air since March 31 and started with a handful of affiliates, has lately been adding new markets, including San Francisco, Phoenix, San Diego, thanks to an unlikely source -- Clear Channel Communications, the country's largest radio station owner, which has put the network on several stations, including the new Boston affiiliates -- WXKS-AM and WKOX-AM . The San Antonio-based company, which has often been linked to conservative politics, also syndicates shows by conservative talk-show hosts Rush Limbaugh(heard on WRKO AM 680) and Dr. Laura Schlessinger(heard on WTTT AM 1150). In addition to the Air America lineup, which includes Franken, comedian Janeane Garofalo and Florida talk show host Randi Rhodes, WXKS and WKOX will also feature Ed Schultz, a fiery liberal talk show host from North Dakota. Clear Channel has already had success broadcasting Schultz on one of its stations in Portland, Ore. And another non-Air America's show that will be heard WXKS and WKOX is LA-based comedienne-turned-radio talk-show host Stephanie Miller midday show which launched on September 7th. Director of Marketing for WXKS-FM and WJMN-FM, Dennis O'Heron will ovesee programming WXKS-AM and WKOX-AM. The weekday line-up for WXKS/WKOX simulcast : 6a-9a "Morning Sedition: with Mark Riley and Marc Maron(Air America) 9a-12p - Stephanie Miller(WYD Media Management) 12-3p - Zero Spin Zone" wtih Al Franken and Katherine Lanpher(Air America) 3-6p -Ed Schultz(Jones Radio Network) 6-10p - Randi Rhodes(Air America) 10-1a -The Majority Report with Janneane Garofolo and Sam Seder(Air America) ===== Joe Pappalardo joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Sep 30 23:14:32 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu Sep 30 23:14:36 2004 Subject: AM on XM Message-ID: <200410010314.XAA05394@colossus.bilow.com> Tomorrow (Friday 10/1) afternoon at 4PM XM radio's '60's on 6 channel with feature a look back at Boston's WMEX from the 1960's, complete with music,jingles and commercials Brian Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste. 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 (978)538-7575 -----Original Message----- >From: "KEVIN GOODWIN" >Sent: 9/30/04 8:26:52 PM >To: "dlh@donnahalper.com", "Mark Watson" >Cc: "boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org" >Subject: Re: Scott Muni Has Passed Away > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:02:22 -0400 >To: "Mark Watson" >Subject: Re: Scott Muni Has Passed Away > >> >> Mark wrote-- >> > All Access reports that legendary New York City radio personality Scott >> > Muni passed away last night at the age of 74. >> >> The NY Times has his obit, from Associated Press, but I am sure by tomorrow, they will write one up. I knew Scott for many years. He was always kind to me and I will miss him. As I said on another list, he was one of the last of that style of announcer who saw being a d.j. as an art; he related to the listener in a very knowledgeable way without acting superior and without talking down to anyone. I wonder how he felt about the changes that occurred in radio during the many years that he was in album rock... >> > >I remember when WMEX was on 1150. I remember they used to run Scott Muni's Ticket to Ride his show on the Beatles. I beleive they ran the show on Sunday mornings if I am not mistaken. I beleive the shows were on vynal records back in those days. > >-- >_______________________________________________ >Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages >http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From gary@garysicecream.com Thu Sep 30 23:34:59 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Thu Sep 30 23:35:08 2004 Subject: AM on XM References: <200410010314.XAA05394@colossus.bilow.com> Message-ID: <023d01c4a767$a1049a40$6500a8c0@office> They've done that before....they just play the Cruisin' album (CD).........there is a whole series of classic stations from around the country. Arnie Ginsburg told me that the WMEX was a re-creation, it wasn't an actual aircheck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vita" To: ; ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 11:14 PM Subject: AM on XM > Tomorrow (Friday 10/1) afternoon at 4PM XM radio's '60's on 6 channel with > feature a look back at Boston's WMEX from the 1960's, complete with > music,jingles and commercials > > Brian Vita, President > Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. > 77 Walnut St. - Ste. 4 > Peabody, MA 01960-5691 > (978)538-7575 > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: "KEVIN GOODWIN" > >Sent: 9/30/04 8:26:52 PM > >To: "dlh@donnahalper.com", "Mark > Watson" > >Cc: > "boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org" > >Subject: Re: Scott Muni Has Passed Away > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: > >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:02:22 -0400 > >To: "Mark Watson" > >Subject: Re: Scott Muni Has Passed Away > > > >> > >> Mark wrote-- > >> > All Access reports that legendary New York City radio > personality Scott > >> > Muni passed away last night at the age of 74. > >> > >> The NY Times has his obit, from Associated Press, but I am sure by > tomorrow, they will write one up. I knew Scott for many years. He was > always kind to me and I will miss him. As I said on another list, he was > one of the last of that style of announcer who saw being a d.j. as an art; > he related to the listener in a very knowledgeable way without acting > superior and without talking down to anyone. I wonder how he felt about > the changes that occurred in radio during the many years that he was in > album rock... > >> > > > >I remember when WMEX was on 1150. I remember they used to run Scott > Muni's Ticket to Ride his show on the Beatles. I beleive they ran the show > on Sunday mornings if I am not mistaken. I beleive the shows were on vynal > records back in those days. > > > >-- > >_______________________________________________ > >Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > > >http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 >