From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 1 00:29:31 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Oct 1 00:34:56 2004 Subject: WGAN radio may drop Rather In-Reply-To: <200409300148.AA555614374@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <415CA4EB.2279.5CE71C@localhost> On 30 Sep 2004 at 1:48, rogerkirk wrote: > I'm waiting for standard GOP response: "That's ludicrous, preposterous and > pure nonsense!" Just dismiss it offhand. And fuzzy math. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 1 00:29:32 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Oct 1 00:35:35 2004 Subject: WGAN radio may drop Rather In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040930075318.01b9bea0@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <415B5EAC.16567.721B68@localhost> Message-ID: <415CA4EC.15406.5CE7A2@localhost> On 30 Sep 2004 at 7:56, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Your last statement was the key. CBS was guilty of sloppy > journalism. They got fed some dirt and put it on the air without > verifying it's authenticity. They set themselves up for this. They may or may not have been set up by someone, but they certainly allowed themselves to be had by their own sloppiness. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 1 00:29:32 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Oct 1 00:35:39 2004 Subject: WGAN radio may drop Rather In-Reply-To: <014701c4a6b4$26469320$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <415CA4EC.6599.5CE808@localhost> On 30 Sep 2004 at 2:07, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > There has been no evidence to show that he "dodged" his NG service. Only on Fox News has there been no evidence. > Dan Rather took to the air with forged documents to attempt to discredit > the president. > > No matter who set it up or why....the journalist failed to do his > job...and the stakes were pretty high. That is quite true. If CBS was set up (and so far, this is only speculation), they allowed themselves to be set up by their sloppiness. I've been trying to figure out who could possibly be dumb enough to forge an early 1970s memo using Microsoft Word with Times New Roman font. If it wasn't a deliberate setup, I'd guess it was someone who was too young to remember typewriters. And maybe it got by CBS News because the only ones who looked at the document were just as young. Hell, if you want to forge a 1970s document with Word, you should use Courier. > And this is just the latest of many "Ratherisms". > End result...Dan Rather and CBS have hurt their credibility. I won't disagree with that. I remember one evening during the first Gulf War, after the first Scud missile attacks on Israel, Dan Rather reported that an Israeli retaliation was under way. The other networks were saying nothing about it. It wasn't so. Eventually, Rather simply stopped talking about it. No retraction, no statement that it wasn't so, they just stopped talking about it. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 1 00:29:32 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Oct 1 00:35:48 2004 Subject: Air America On WXKS & WKOX Monday 10/4 In-Reply-To: <003301c4a732$1be28550$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <415CA4EC.8680.5CE84B@localhost> On 30 Sep 2004 at 17:11, Mark Watson wrote: > All Access reports that the long rumored arrivail of Air America in the > Boston market will take place on Monday Oct.4. That when the standards on > WXKS (1430 Everett) and brokered ethinc programs on WKOX (1200 Framingham) > will be replaced by the likes of Al Franken and Randi Rhodes, plus some > offerings from the Jones Radio Network. All Access also reports that > Dennis O'Heron will be the program director for the WXKS/WKOX simulcast. Great! But what's the Jones Radio Network? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 1 00:29:32 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Oct 1 00:36:26 2004 Subject: AM on XM In-Reply-To: <023d01c4a767$a1049a40$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: <415CA4EC.24532.5CE935@localhost> On 30 Sep 2004 at 23:34, gic wrote: > They've done that before....they just play the Cruisin' album > (CD).........there is a whole series of classic stations from around the > country. Arnie Ginsburg told me that the WMEX was a re-creation, it > wasn't an actual aircheck. I have the record. It's "Crusin 1961." There was an entire set that ran from something like 1956 to 1962. It's obviously a re-creation. In fact, I think it's presented as such. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Fri Oct 1 02:43:55 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Fri Oct 1 02:45:01 2004 Subject: WGAN radio may drop Rather References: <415CA4EC.6599.5CE808@localhost> Message-ID: <016901c4a782$2208b6c0$1404fea9@xyz> > > There has been no evidence to show that he "dodged" his NG service. > > Only on Fox News has there been no evidence. I read the Globe, the Herald, watch CNN and MSNBC too...no one has shown any evidence. Only anecdotes. Or is it part of the "say something often enough and it becomes true" rule? I seem to recall a story that was floated during the Carter-Reagan election....that Reagan (or his representatives) were meeting with the Iranians in Paris to set up a deal to release the hostages when he gets elected. (you remember the hostage crisis right?) None of it was ever true. But it was said to the point that many believed it to be true. From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Oct 1 03:10:13 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Oct 1 03:10:24 2004 Subject: Air America On WXKS & WKOX Monday 10/4 Message-ID: <20041001071013.69FDB12CCF@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>offerings from the Jones Radio Network It was mentioned on another post that Stephanie Miller will be part of the lineup. She's syndicated by Jones. I think they also syndie Clark Howard and Neil Boortz. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Oct 1 07:35:49 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Oct 1 07:35:50 2004 Subject: Air America finds it's way to Boston In-Reply-To: <20041001013329.1667.qmail@web52302.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041001013329.1667.qmail@web52302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20041001073209.01b7fac0@pop3.bit-net.com> Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >Both stations will >launch a new talk format on Monday morning (October >4th) at 6am and will be nicknamed"Progressive Talk AM >1200 and 1430'. I notice "progressive" seems to be the current euphemism for "liberal". I've seen that word used in reference to AA elsewhere as well. They don't mean the same thing, and from what I've heard of AA "progressive" isn't exactly a word I'd use to describe them. From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Oct 1 07:43:21 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Oct 1 07:43:22 2004 Subject: AM on XM In-Reply-To: <023d01c4a767$a1049a40$6500a8c0@office> References: <200410010314.XAA05394@colossus.bilow.com> <023d01c4a767$a1049a40$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20041001073933.01b06270@pop3.bit-net.com> gic wrote: >They've done that before....they just play the Cruisin' album >(CD).........there is a whole series of classic stations from around the >country. Arnie Ginsburg told me that the WMEX was a re-creation, it >wasn't an actual aircheck. No kidding! It also contains one glaring anachronism....it supposedly took place in 1961, but one of Arnie's theme songs used on it was sung by Freddie Cannon to the tune of "Patty Baby"...a song that didn't come out until 1963! From sid@wrko.com Fri Oct 1 08:44:13 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri Oct 1 08:45:26 2004 Subject: AM on XM Message-ID: >>they just play the Cruisin' album<< No, they don't. One of those albums is not nearly enough to fill four hours. >>Arnie Ginsburg told me that the WMEX was a re-creation, it wasn't an actual aircheck.<< All of them are re-creations. >>There was an entire set that ran from something like 1956 to 1962.<< The original set ran from 1956 to 1962. 1955 and 1963-67 were added later, still in the vinyl era. After the albums were re-released on CD (and hacked to death; most of the CD's had some songs taken out and others put in, and the edits are horrible), 1968-70 were added. From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Oct 1 11:28:08 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri Oct 1 11:28:15 2004 Subject: Air America finds it's way to Boston In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20041001073209.01b7fac0@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <20041001013329.1667.qmail@web52302.mail.yahoo.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20041001073209.01b7fac0@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: At 7:35 AM -0400 10/1/04, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > >I notice "progressive" seems to be the current euphemism for >"liberal". I've seen that word used in reference to AA elsewhere as >well. They don't mean the same thing, and from what I've heard of >AA "progressive" isn't exactly a word I'd use to describe them. The term "progressive" has been around for a while, it has generally been used by groups that wished to be differentiated from mainstream liberals, who now seem to have appropriated the term for themselves. Progressive, IMO, does not necessarily mean further left, but in many cases implies a more pragmatic liberalism. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Oct 1 11:41:42 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Oct 1 11:41:53 2004 Subject: Air America finds it's way to Boston Message-ID: <20041001154142.632363A13@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>The term "progressive" has been around for a while I had thought that liberals had adopted the word "progressive" after Reagan, Bush I, and Limbaugh demonized the word "liberal" in the 80s and early 90s ("the L-word"). _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Oct 1 12:31:23 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Oct 1 12:31:27 2004 Subject: Air America finds it's way to Boston In-Reply-To: <20041001154142.632363A13@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20041001154142.632363A13@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <200410011631.i91GVN9P089640@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > I had thought that liberals had adopted the word "progressive" > after Reagan, Bush I, and Limbaugh demonized the word "liberal" > in the 80s and early 90s ("the L-word"). It would be more accurate to say that progressives adopted the word "liberal", after the end of the last war. Prior to that, "liberal" meant what we now call "libertarian": free trade, minimal government interference with business or social causes, etc. Follow-ups to private mail, please. -GAWollman From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Fri Oct 1 18:30:51 2004 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Fri Oct 1 18:31:03 2004 Subject: AM on XM In-Reply-To: <200410010314.XAA05394@colossus.bilow.com> Message-ID: <20041001223052.51975.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com> Scott Muni's "Ticket to Ride" was indeed syndicated on vinyl back then. We used to carry the show in Portland on WMGX. I remember taking the final record off the turntable each week leading into my show. How I miss that feedback effect when the control room monitors were cranked too high or that occassional turntable thud.:) Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA > >I remember when WMEX was on 1150. I remember > they used to run Scott Muni's Ticket to Ride his > show on the Beatles. I beleive they ran the show on > Sunday mornings if I am not mistaken. I beleive the > shows were on vynal records back in those days. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Oct 1 18:32:15 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Oct 1 18:32:24 2004 Subject: Air America finds it's way to Boston References: <20041001013329.1667.qmail@web52302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005a01c4a806$80ed6c10$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> So what about all the claims that Clear Channel Communications made programming decisions to kiss up to the Bush administration? From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Oct 1 18:47:54 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Oct 1 18:47:59 2004 Subject: Bill Ballance has died. He was 85. Message-ID: <200410011847.AA940310730@mail.ttlc.net> Dateline: SAN DIEGO Bill Ballance, a pioneering radio personality, has died. He was 85. http://radio.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp%3FS=2347935 From rjoc@webtv.net Fri Oct 1 19:15:10 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Fri Oct 1 19:15:17 2004 Subject: Local WDEA-1370 Back on the air! Message-ID: <20723-415DE4FE-3594@storefull-3273.bay.webtv.net> I have been away this week, but upon return last night I was happy to hear WDEA-1370 Ellsworth back on the air. According to a brief story in this week's Ellsworth American (Not on their website) their new AM transmitter was installed last Monday, and they returned to the air Monday evening. Local morning host Rick Foster will be hosting an open house at the WDEA studios in Ellsworth next Friday morning Oct. 8. Glad to have them back, and able to enjoy Red Sox games on the road again, Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From mlaurence@mindspring.com Fri Oct 1 20:24:02 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Fri Oct 1 20:24:09 2004 Subject: Air America audience rallies in Portland Message-ID: <5C79487A-1409-11D9-A9E0-000393D13824@mindspring.com> Air America will remain on the air in Portland ME after listeners rallied to save the station. According to the Portland Press Herald, listener support in the form of messages and phone calls convinced management to stick with the format for another 5 weeks. Their article of about a week ago said the format switch to sports talk would still happen shortly after the election. But the station hosted a public meeting last night in their sales offices in Portland to talk about the format switch proposal with the Air America supporters. The Press Herald quoted GM Patrick Collins saying "The response really caught us off guard." Here's the Press Herald story written before the meeting: http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/040930airamerica.shtml Al Franken's wife Franni appeared on the Randi Rhodes show this afternoon and said the network has now been signed up for a longer term in Portland, after the enthusiastic support of listeners at the meeting. Mark From gary@garysicecream.com Fri Oct 1 22:03:45 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Fri Oct 1 22:03:59 2004 Subject: Ron Robin on TV Message-ID: <03cd01c4a824$0e7f9db0$6500a8c0@office> I was sitting here watching $40 a day on FoodTV and suddenly heard a familiar voice, the bartender/owner of Cafe Mews in Provincetown was telling Rachel the host about his 100 vodkas - the voice was that of Ron Robin (WMEX/WVBF/WBOS, WBZ and who knows where else). -g From n1qgs@yahoo.com Fri Oct 1 22:22:28 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Fri Oct 1 22:22:33 2004 Subject: WASR 1420 Wolfeboro NH on well after 6PM Message-ID: <20041002022228.52586.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> I notice on my trip back from Conway twice in the past month that WASR 1429 AM Wolfeboro NH has been on well after 6:05PM, there usually sign off time (Even when the sun sets late). The last time through Wolfeboro it was about 10:15pm and they were still on! From n1qgs@yahoo.com Fri Oct 1 22:23:51 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Fri Oct 1 22:23:55 2004 Subject: WGIR 610 AM Manchester NH 3p-6p slot appears to be filled Message-ID: <20041002022351.60745.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> The WGIR 610 AM Manchester Nh 3p-6p slot appears to be filled. WGIR has been running promos for Gardner Goldsmith. John Derry Nh From n1qgs@yahoo.com Fri Oct 1 22:29:32 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Fri Oct 1 22:29:35 2004 Subject: Strange reception on TV this evening Message-ID: <20041002022932.60277.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> I was over at my folks house in Londonderry NH this evening, attempting to watch the Red Sox on Channel 38. Nornally Boston UHF's coming in a touch snowy using the single telescoping rod that comes with the TV. Reception of 38,25,56,44 was just horible earlier this evening. However, Providence on the same TV on UHF 28,36,64 was coming in fair to good, and usually it takes a good outside antenna at this location to just get a poor to fair signal. I realize we must of had some ducting/skip conditions this evening, but I don't recall ever seeing it were it favors in one area further away (Providence) and nearly makes useless other normally watchable stations that are closer and nearly in the same direction (well almost). John Derry/Londonderry NH From steveord@bit-net.com Sat Oct 2 08:18:19 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Oct 2 08:18:21 2004 Subject: WASR 1420 Wolfeboro NH on well after 6PM In-Reply-To: <20041002022228.52586.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041002022228.52586.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20041002081622.01b17ec0@pop3.bit-net.com> John Bolduc wrote: >I notice on my trip back from Conway twice in the past month that WASR >1429 AM Wolfeboro NH has been on well after 6:05PM, there usually sign off >time (Even when the sun sets late). The last time through Wolfeboro it was >about 10:15pm and they were still on! According to my M Street, they have night authorization of 137W. Maybe they just weren't using it before? From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Oct 2 09:43:15 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Oct 2 09:44:18 2004 Subject: Trouble Intensifies at WBUR Message-ID: <005101c4a885$da315780$1404fea9@xyz> Many have said that they enjoy WGBH's Greater Boston program when they do "Bat the Press". One of the regular panelists is Dan Kennedy, who writes for the Phoenix (BTW, you can also 'subscribe' to the medialog, and the items will be delivered by email as they are posted.) >From the Boston Phoenix Media Log Blog this morning.... http://www.bostonphoenix.com/medialog/index.asp TROUBLE INTENSIFIES AT WBUR. Thanks to an anonymous letter to Boston University, all of the whispered, off-the-record allegations about the way Jane Christo has run WBUR Radio (90.9 FM) are starting to come out. According to the Boston Globe's Mark Jurkowitz and the Providence Journal's David McPherson, the university, which is the license-holder, has received information about Christo - the general manager of WBUR since 1979 - that has led to an intensification of the investigation i nto the circumstances surrounding 'BUR's planned sale of two Rhode Island radio stations. According to McPherson: A BU source confirmed for The Journal that WBUR's hiring is one area of the investigation. BU's online employee directory indicates that Christo's son, Zachary Christo, is employed by WBUR. Also, former WBUR employees have told The Journal of at least 10 Albanian immigrants employed by the station. Their names are included in the BU online directory and are listed as WBUR employees. The practice of hiring Albanian immigrants is notable because Christo's husband, Van Christo, is executive director of an Albanian immigration and cultural organization, the Frosina Information Network. He is an Albanian native himself. Other areas of inquiry, the BU source confirmed, include general spending at WBUR, use of automobiles, a no-bid printing contract and the conduct of WBUR's "Citizens of the World" travel program , which is supposed to raise money for the station. I can attest that these are precisely the charges that come up over and over again in off-the-record conversations with current and former WBUR employees. I would urge some caution. I was told by several people, for instance, that though the Citizens of the World tours might actually lose money - not exactly what you're looking for from a fundraising event - they are also valuable opportunities for Christo to schmooze with potential big contributors. I was also told of at least one example in which the schmoozing paid off. Also, the issue with the Albanians - which Jurkowitz touched on in a harsh profile of Christo in 1997 - has always been a difficult one. If they are performing jobs that need to be done (a matter of some dispute), then there isn't any obvious reason why there's something wrong with giving them a helping hand. This week, the Phoenix published an editorial calling on Boston University to conduct a thorough investigation and to hold WBUR more accountable to the community, which has done so much to support the station over the years. Among our suggestions: greater financial disclosure, more frequent annual reports (at 'BUR, "annual" doesn't always mean "once a year"), and a community-based board with real oversight power. The Phoenix's Ian Donnis updates the story with this. Here is a piece that Ian Donnis and I wrote a week earlier on the mounting troubles at 'BUR. As someone who's listened to and admired WBUR for years, and has also heard many stories about Christo's dysfunctional management style, I have found the last few weeks to be both troubling and fascinating. It would be foolhardy to predict what's going to happen - or, for that matter, to assert with any confidence what the truth is. But it does appear, at long last, that many questions people have been asking for a long time are finally going to be answered. Who knows? Before this is all over, maybe Christopher Lydon will be back on the air. -- Posted by Dan to Boston Phoenix Media Log at 10/2/2004 07:59:15 AM From markwats@comcast.net Sat Oct 2 09:49:58 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat Oct 2 09:50:08 2004 Subject: WASR 1420 Wolfeboro NH on well after 6PM References: <20041002022228.52586.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20041002081622.01b17ec0@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <001301c4a886$b615c2e0$6f918318@Mark> Steve Ordinetz wrote: > According to my M Street, they have night authorization of >137W. Maybe they just weren't using it before? IIRC, WASR was sold sometime over the last year, wasn't it a husband & wife that put it on the air originally around 1970, running it out of their house? I've seen their names before, it escapes me at the moment. It was originally a daytimer, and later (late 80's ?) got the night power, but still signed off around 8 or 9 PM even with the night authorization. The new owners may be staying on later or 24/7. Mark Watson From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sat Oct 2 11:39:24 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sat Oct 2 11:39:27 2004 Subject: WASR 1420 Wolfeboro NH on well after 6PM In-Reply-To: <001301c4a886$b615c2e0$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <20041002153924.64618.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> > I believe the station was owned by the Hatch family, husband, wife and son. The son, Paul?? was the driving force behind the station as well as local business man and involved in government for a long time (state rep etc). He , Paul??, died earlier this year. His obit also listed him as working in radio in Laconia, Conway and Rochester over the years. I do think the station was sold be this, but the Hatch's were still involved, but I'm not sure. They did always sign off at 6:00-6:10 PM every night over the past several years. John Derry NH From dwcole@comcast.net Sat Oct 2 12:55:01 2004 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Sat Oct 2 12:55:11 2004 Subject: WASR 1420 Wolfeboro NH on well after 6PM References: <20041002153924.64618.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000301c4a8a0$8ec27980$61f29318@HP310n> ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: WASR 1420 Wolfeboro NH on well after 6PM >> > I believe the station was owned by the Hatch family, husband, wife and > son. The son, Paul?? was the driving force behind the station as well as > local business man and involved in government for a long time (state rep > etc). He , Paul??, died earlier this year. His obit also listed him as > working in radio in Laconia, Conway and Rochester over the years. I do > think the station was sold be this, but the Hatch's were still involved, > but I'm not sure. Close. Allen and Sharon Sevary (sp?) WASR (Allen and Sharon Radio) or (Allen Sevary Radio)...depends on who's telling it. Lots of legends from folks who worked there. Station downstairs...family upstairs. Sharon coming down in her curlers in the morning. :) Dan Cole From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sat Oct 2 20:18:10 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sat Oct 2 20:18:15 2004 Subject: WASR 1420 Wolfeboro NH on well after 6PM In-Reply-To: <000301c4a8a0$8ec27980$61f29318@HP310n> Message-ID: <20041003001810.45566.qmail@web12504.mail.yahoo.com> Okay, I still a little confused. Perhaps it the Hatch family that is now involved with the station ?? John Derry NH From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Oct 3 00:35:29 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Oct 3 00:34:15 2004 Subject: Air America finds it's way to Boston In-Reply-To: <005a01c4a806$80ed6c10$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <415F4951.8546.2ED34E0@localhost> On 1 Oct 2004 at 18:32, Daniel Billings wrote: > So what about all the claims that Clear Channel Communications made > programming decisions to kiss up to the Bush administration? Maybe they're doing this in order to refute that claim? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Oct 3 00:40:23 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Oct 3 00:40:27 2004 Subject: Air America finds it's way to Boston In-Reply-To: <415F4951.8546.2ED34E0@localhost> References: <005a01c4a806$80ed6c10$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <415F4951.8546.2ED34E0@localhost> Message-ID: <200410030440.i934eNnn003142@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Maybe they're doing this in order to refute that claim? If the Mays boys care about anything, it's making more money. I would not try to read any sort of political implication into CCU's current fascination with Air America other than the possibility of making a few bucks. (Actually, the same is true of most media organizations: I'd say the same about Viacom, even though Sumner controls it much more tightly than the Mayses control Clear Channel.) -GAWollman From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Oct 3 01:24:29 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Oct 3 01:24:52 2004 Subject: Air America finds it's way to Boston In-Reply-To: <415F4951.8546.2ED34E0@localhost> References: <005a01c4a806$80ed6c10$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041003011808.02bfaec8@pop.registeredsite.com> >it was said-- > > So what about all the claims that Clear Channel Communications made > > programming decisions to kiss up to the Bush administration? > >Maybe they're doing this in order to refute that claim? As I suggested on LTAR, the Clear Channel folks are definitely doing a "charm offensive" with lots of pro-CC billboards, taking a strong stand against obscene programming, etc. The company has been getting hammered by community activists who accuse it of having a chilling effect on free speech (don't flame me, folks-- I am quoting other people); CC's upper-management is known for being very pro-Bush amd pro-Iraq War, and Lowry Mays has donated millions to Republican causes. Given the perception of its critics that CC is hindering other points of view from being heard, and with the FCC taking a hard look at the conglomerates, it makes perfect sense for CC to show they are really misunderstood by getting rid of Howard Stern or by putting some liberal programming on a few stations. It doesn't really cause any problems, since the number of stations affected is comparatively small, but it makes CC look more moderate in the eyes of those critics, and perhaps gets the FCC to back off. From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Oct 3 05:59:51 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun Oct 3 05:45:38 2004 Subject: AA in early 60's style two-station AM stereo! In-Reply-To: <200409250719.i8P7J8d6068660@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: Anyone remember the occasional two-station "AM stereo" broadcasts in the late 50's and early 60's in which one local station broadcast the left channel and another station broadcast the right, and you used two radios to hear the stereo effect? Well, it's back! I tuned into the Air America promos on WXKS playing "Revolution" by The Beatles, and there were no drums. I switched to WKOX and the drums were there, but the guitar was gone. WXKS is airing only one stereo channel of the feed, and WKOX is airing only the other! I put a different radio on each station, and voila, full true stereo separation! I'd imagine that this is a completely unintentional and inadvertent feature... Eli Polonsky From steveord@bit-net.com Sun Oct 3 07:41:49 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Oct 3 07:41:51 2004 Subject: AA in early 60's style two-station AM stereo! In-Reply-To: References: <200409250719.i8P7J8d6068660@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20041003073435.01b5ac98@pop3.bit-net.com> Eli Polonsky wrote: >I tuned into the Air America promos on WXKS playing >"Revolution" by The Beatles, and there were no drums. >I switched to WKOX and the drums were there, but the >guitar was gone. >WXKS is airing only one stereo channel of the feed, >and WKOX is airing only the other! >I put a different radio on each station, and voila, >full true stereo separation! >I'd imagine that this is a completely unintentional >and inadvertent feature... Are these just locally produced promos or network ones? I don't think I've seen any network talk programming that's delivered in stereo....indeed with the exception of Dr. Laura (which is fed mono both) all other syndicated talk programming I'm aware of is sent in mono...the left channel and right channels of the receiver are usually 2 totally different programs/feeds. Anyone know what provider AA is distributed over? As you mentioned, this is probably a case of the engineering dept. being sloppy and feeding the left output of the automation to one station and the right to the other. One would expect the right channel to go away soon... :-/ From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Oct 3 10:24:39 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Oct 3 10:24:52 2004 Subject: AA in early 60's style two-station AM stereo! Message-ID: <20041003142439.A08703986@mprdmxin.myway.com> I noticed this, too, and (probably incorrectly) thought that when a stereo record was presented on a mono signal it "chose" one speaker and that's all you got. In many records of the 60s you had good stereo separation-- or at least it was interesting to hear in headphones, especially, with vocals on one spkr or the other; some instruments in one, some the other, etc. I used to make tapes doing "extended" or "alternate" versions of songs like the Beatles "Hey Bulldog" or the Rutles' (Beatles-spoofing band) "Doubleback Alley"; by using a Y-adapter and taking the output from one speaker (off phono or CD) and bridging it onto both speakers of the cassette input. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Oct 3 11:02:56 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Sun Oct 3 11:03:09 2004 Subject: Channel 7 building evacuated Message-ID: <082001c4a95a$11030d60$6500a8c0@office> Chatter on the Boston fire frequencies indicates that the Channel 7 building at Government Center has been evacuated due to a suspected gas leak.....developing.... From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Oct 3 14:55:25 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun Oct 3 14:41:14 2004 Subject: AA in early 60's style two-station AM stereo! In-Reply-To: <200410031600.i93G02d6011943@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: > From: "Bob Nelson" > Reply-To: raccoonradio@myway.com > Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 10:24:39 -0400 (EDT) > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: RE: AA in early 60's style two-station AM stereo! > > I noticed this, too, and (probably incorrectly) thought that > when a stereo record was presented on a mono signal it "chose" > one speaker and that's all you got. That is incorrect. Normally you should get both channels mixed to mono. However, certain stereo records (especially back in the 60's) were produced with phase errors or other weird imbalances in the stereo mix which could cause diminished levels or cancellation of certain tracks of the music when mixed to mono. Beyond that, if you're only hearing one channel on a mono radio or mono station, there's a problem with the stations equipment, board settings or airchain, or if it's a network feed, they're only linking one side. Eli From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Oct 4 01:03:13 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Oct 4 01:01:51 2004 Subject: Air America Message-ID: <4160A151.17957.7B431E@localhost> On this morning's LTAR, Bob mentioned that he'd heard a lot of obnoxious rock music on WXKS and thought it was a slap in the face to the WXKS adult standards audience to do this before the format change. But either Bob only listened for a short time or they changed what they were doing by the time I listened on Friday night (and again today). What they've been doing is playing music with themes appropriate to Air America, such as the Beatles' "Revolution" and other songs expressing patriotism, freedom, or something like that. These were interspersed with recordings of Al Franken reading from his book, "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" and promos for the upcoming format ("Starting this Monday, wake up on the left side of the bed."). I also found, unfortunately, that while I can hear both stations in my car, it's hard to get either station's nighttime signal here in Brookline, even with my Sony 2010 radio. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Oct 4 01:57:04 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Oct 4 01:57:15 2004 Subject: Air America Message-ID: <20041004055704.D3D22394A@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>What they've been doing is playing music with themes appropriate to Air America, such as the Beatles' "Revolution" and other songs expressing patriotism, freedom, or something like that. yes--some of them included, in addition to "Revolution": Neil Young, "Rockin' in a Free World" Bruce Springsteen, "Born in the USA" Green Day, "American Idiot" The Who, "We Won't Get Fooled Again" needless to say, songs one would not have expected on WXKS (or WJIB) and songs that were known to many people of a slightly younger age group (they could have thrown in some more unknown songs, like stuff by the Dead Kennedys). I think they put the hard edge (well, harder than what WXKS had been playing, certainly) to attract the young liberal audience. They probably could have thrown in some older/softer stuff: Kingston Trio, "Where Have All The Flowers Gone" Phil Ochs, "I'm Not Marching Anymore" Scott MacKenzie (or Turtles), "Eve of Destruction" Cheryl Wheeler, "If It Were Up To Me (I'd Take Away the guns)" Pat Humphries, "Swimming to the Other Side" (any version of Woody Guthrie's) "This Land is Your Land" (zany Mojo Nixon does a pretty good version) Pete Seeger/Weavers, "We Shall Overcome" Pete Seeger (or the Byrds), "Turn! Turn! Turn!" Buffy Ste. Marie, "The Universal Soldier" And let us not forget... Cat "Yousaf Islam" Stevens, "Peace Train" :) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Mon Oct 4 06:47:48 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Mon Oct 4 06:33:33 2004 Subject: Bill Wightman new WBOQ morning man! In-Reply-To: <200410031600.i93G02d6011943@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: Just tuned into WBOQ 104.9, and I'm listening to their debut of former longtime WXKS-AM 1430 morning man Bill Wightman, who after doing his last WXKS show just last week, is now WBOQ's new morning drive host! Congratulations to Bill! Eli Polonsky From fox893@yahoo.com Mon Oct 4 07:05:10 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Mon Oct 4 07:05:19 2004 Subject: WASR 1420 Wolfeboro NH on well after 6PM In-Reply-To: <20041002153924.64618.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20041004110510.88307.qmail@web61109.mail.yahoo.com> > working in radio in Laconia, Conway and Rochester > over the years. I do > think the station was sold be this, but the Hatch's > were still involved, > but I'm not sure. He actually worked for our sister station(WMWV-FM) for a while years and years ago, as the former owner tells it. He was, at the time of his death, still working at the station. GM? or GSM? However, I thought they still owned it. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Oct 4 07:24:04 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon Oct 4 07:25:46 2004 Subject: Bill Wightman new WBOQ morning man! References: Message-ID: <000001c4aa04$e01e74e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> So what happened to Kendall Buehl? (or however he spells it). Kendall has been on WBOQ through several formats, originally, I think, paired with Dana Hersey. Maybe he wasn't on WBOQ as long as Wightman was on WXKS, but it has to be five years. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Eli Polonsky To: Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 6:47 AM Subject: Bill Wightman new WBOQ morning man! > Just tuned into WBOQ 104.9, and I'm listening to their debut > of former longtime WXKS-AM 1430 morning man Bill Wightman, who > after doing his last WXKS show just last week, is now WBOQ's > new morning drive host! > > Congratulations to Bill! > > Eli Polonsky > From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Oct 4 07:43:48 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon Oct 4 07:44:07 2004 Subject: Air America References: <4160A151.17957.7B431E@localhost> Message-ID: <001001c4aa07$6dfff340$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Did you try WKOX this morning--before the 7:00 AM pattern change? I heard the carrier cut at 7:00 and the background interference did drop off a little afterward. The signal DID get a slight bit louder, too. So there's not much question about WKOX running its day power/pattern at night. Also, last night was a relatively poor night for AM skip, so the interference from co-channel stations was not at its worst. Nevertheless, if what I heard is an example of what CCU's technical wizards can do with audio processing to make an AM climb to the top of the pile, why hasn't WKOX been doing this ever since CCU bought the station? The signal I heard from 6:40 AM, when I tuned in, until 7:00 was entirely listenable and I think that I live at least as far from 100 Mt Wayte Ave as Joe does. Brookline is more-or-less due east of Framingham, whereas Arlington is northeast, and Brookline is pretty much due south of Arlington. WBIX ought to get the person responsible for WKOX's audio to tweak the 1060 night audio. WBIX may or may not yet be running its full 2500W at night, but with audio processing like WKOX's, the 1060 night signal would certainly SOUND as if the station were at full power. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: A. Joseph Ross To: Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 1:03 AM Subject: Air America > On this morning's LTAR, Bob mentioned that he'd heard a lot of obnoxious rock music on > WXKS and thought it was a slap in the face to the WXKS adult standards audience to do > this before the format change. > > But either Bob only listened for a short time or they changed what they were doing by the > time I listened on Friday night (and again today). What they've been doing is playing music > with themes appropriate to Air America, such as the Beatles' "Revolution" and other songs > expressing patriotism, freedom, or something like that. These were interspersed with > recordings of Al Franken reading from his book, "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" > and promos for the upcoming format ("Starting this Monday, wake up on the left side of the > bed."). > > I also found, unfortunately, that while I can hear both stations in my car, it's hard to get either > station's nighttime signal here in Brookline, even with my Sony 2010 radio. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From billo@shoreham.net Mon Oct 4 07:57:05 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Oct 4 07:57:09 2004 Subject: [Fwd: Re: Air America] Message-ID: <41613A91.8070207@shoreham.net> Dan Strassberg writes: co-channel stations was not at its worst. Nevertheless, if what I heard is an example of what CCU's technical wizards can do with audio processing to make an AM climb to the top of the pile, Can you expand on that (pun intended)? What do you think they're doing for audio processing, equipment, settings, etc. Bill O'Neill From steveord@bit-net.com Mon Oct 4 07:58:56 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Mon Oct 4 07:58:57 2004 Subject: Air America In-Reply-To: <20041004055704.D3D22394A@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20041004055704.D3D22394A@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20041004075812.01b6fa18@pop3.bit-net.com> Bob Nelson wrote: >Scott MacKenzie (or Turtles), "Eve of Destruction" That was Barry McGuire, not Scott McKenzie. From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Oct 4 10:33:11 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Oct 4 10:33:23 2004 Subject: Stephanie Miller on 1200, 1430 Message-ID: <20041004143311.A8CDB39EF@mprdmxin.myway.com> Am glad Stephanie Miller's back (weekday mornings on the new WKOX and WXKS); just goes to show that her audience isn't exclusively liberal (though from her callers, it seems that way). I liked her on WRKO and I like her now. I may not agree with her...but let's say I'd rather hear her than Al Frankenberry. Her voice guy Jim Ward was back (or was that Carlos Alzaraqui again?), I think, though it seems like he was only doing Bush's voice, not Kerry. Not sure how many affiliates Steph has but it seemed like a lot of calls came from Columbus, OH. Some from this area, though. Her sound effects were back: "...what?" "Hallelujah!" "HA HA HA HA HA! now THAT's funny!" Here in Beverly I found, as expected, that 1430 came in better than 1200, though in my house some kind of heavy interference on 1430...so I walked around outside. Clear signal, though high fuzz. 1200 was indeed weak and if I moved the radio just slightly in came WESX at 1230 (no surprise). Heard on the show: a message from Clear Channel saying we should "embrace our local spirit". Er, like you guys are with absolutely NO local shows (at least on weekdays?)...well, they did traffic at least. And I guess the ads count as local content. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Oct 4 10:36:41 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Oct 4 10:36:52 2004 Subject: Air America Message-ID: <20041004143641.8FE8039D4@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>That was Barry McGuire, not Scott McKenzie Ah, OK! You're right--I was thinking of "If you're going to San Francisco" which was McKenzie's hit _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Oct 4 12:58:37 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Oct 4 12:58:51 2004 Subject: Cities where a format dominates? Message-ID: <20041004165837.E01183991@mprdmxin.myway.com> This should be interesting: can any of you name a city where a certain format is really, really dominant? There are just a TON of stations with that format? In Dallas or Nashville, you have a ton of stations playing country, of course. It could be hot new country, or country oldies or even country-rock. In Seattle, it seems (from looking at 100000watts.com) there's LOTS of talk. And I'll throw in Birmingham, AL, where gospel and black gospel is king. I'll just list the AM stations--there are also more than a few FMs with a gospel or "religious" format. WAGG 610 kHZ Format: Black Gospel Slogan: Heaven 610 WURL 760 kHZ Format: S. Gospel Slogan: Where-U-R-Loved WXJC 850 kHZ Format: Gospel Slogan: All Music, All Jesus, All The Time WATV 900 kHZ Format: Black Gospel Network: Sheridan - The Light Slogan: The Light WAYE 1220 kHZ Format: Black Gospel/Religious Slogan: Gospel 1220 WLPH 1480 kHZ Format: Black Gospel Network: Willis Broadcasting Network Slogan: The Lord's Power House 6 out of 15 stations on AM are gospel (and, again, more on FM) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Oct 4 18:41:00 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Mon Oct 4 18:41:08 2004 Subject: Air America References: <4160A151.17957.7B431E@localhost> Message-ID: <004f01c4aa63$393b0530$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 1:03 AM Subject: Air America > I also found, unfortunately, that while I can hear both stations in my > car, it's hard to get either > station's nighttime signal here in Brookline, even with my Sony 2010 > radio. They will be missing out on their core audience in liberal Brookline! From nostaticatall@comcast.net Mon Oct 4 22:53:28 2004 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Mon Oct 4 22:53:41 2004 Subject: Cities where a format dominates? In-Reply-To: <20041004165837.E01183991@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20041004165837.E01183991@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: Sheer numbers of stations don't always tell the story. Ratings do. Knoxville TN has a couple of country stations, but the top performing station, WIVK, gets something like a 22 share. Johnson City, TN has a similar situation with WXBQ. Huge ratings. I'd say that country is dominant in those two markets, even though there are only a couple of stations in each programming that format. If you want to talk numbers of outlets, markets like Philadelphia, Washington DC and Detroit have multiple stations playing various flavors of Urban music. Memphis has three Urban AC's, three Urban Oldies, two mainstream Urbans, and an Urban leaning smooth jazz station. That's nine stations serving the African American audience in that city. In fact, the top four stations in Memphis are urban formatted! Not to be outdone, Miami has nine stations with at least a one share running a Spanish language format. Los Angeles also has nine Spanish stations. Those are the most glaring examples I can think of off the top of my head. Dave "Mike Thomas" On Oct 4, 2004, at 12:58 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > > This should be interesting: can any of you name a city where a certain > format is really, really dominant? There are just a TON of stations > with that format? > > In Dallas or Nashville, you have a ton of stations playing country, of > course. It could be hot new country, or country oldies or even > country-rock. In Seattle, it seems (from looking at 100000watts.com) > there's LOTS of talk. > > And I'll throw in Birmingham, AL, where gospel and black gospel is > king. > > I'll just list the AM stations--there are also more than a few FMs > with a gospel or "religious" format. > > WAGG > 610 kHZ Format: Black Gospel > Slogan: Heaven 610 > > WURL > 760 kHZ Format: S. Gospel > Slogan: Where-U-R-Loved > > WXJC > 850 kHZ Format: Gospel > Slogan: All Music, All Jesus, All The Time > > WATV > 900 kHZ Format: Black Gospel > Network: Sheridan - The Light > Slogan: The Light > > WAYE > 1220 kHZ Format: Black Gospel/Religious > Slogan: Gospel 1220 > > WLPH > 1480 kHZ Format: Black Gospel > Network: Willis Broadcasting Network > Slogan: The Lord's Power House > > 6 out of 15 stations on AM are gospel (and, again, more on FM) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com > From scott@fybush.com Tue Oct 5 01:29:18 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Oct 5 01:29:26 2004 Subject: Cities where a format dominates? In-Reply-To: References: <20041004165837.E01183991@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20041005012123.01cf7f38@gwind.pair.com> At 10:53 PM 10/4/2004, David Tomm wrote: >Not to be outdone, Miami has nine stations with at least a one share >running a Spanish language format. Los Angeles also has nine Spanish >stations. Those are the most glaring examples I can think of off the top >of my head. Spanish is a language, not a format. That's like saying Los Angeles (which is where I'm typing tonight) has 23 "English language format" stations. Look at the demographics out here - and in particular, the growing diversity WITHIN the broad stroke of "Hispanic" - and if anything, the Spanish-speaking population here is probably underserved, in a radio stations per capita sense, compared with the Anglos. (Also true of Miami.) English-speaking audiences get news, talk, sports, religion, and all sorts of music ranging from oldies to AC to more contemporary formats. Why should Spanish-speaking audiences get any less, at least when there are as many of them as markets like LA now have? s, on a fine Southern California evening From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Oct 5 01:40:03 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Oct 5 01:42:36 2004 Subject: Air America In-Reply-To: <004f01c4aa63$393b0530$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <4161FB73.21773.904286@localhost> On 4 Oct 2004 at 18:41, Daniel Billings wrote: > They will be missing out on their core audience in liberal Brookline! Then again, we can listen on the Internet. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Oct 5 01:40:03 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Oct 5 01:42:40 2004 Subject: Air America In-Reply-To: <20041004055704.D3D22394A@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <4161FB73.12974.9042C2@localhost> On 4 Oct 2004 at 1:57, Bob Nelson wrote: > yes--some of them included, in addition to "Revolution": > Neil Young, "Rockin' in a Free World" > Bruce Springsteen, "Born in the USA" > Green Day, "American Idiot" > The Who, "We Won't Get Fooled Again" And when I heard it, I thought it was "Talkin' in a Free World," which would have been even more appropriate. > needless to say, songs one would not have expected on WXKS (or > WJIB) and songs that were known to many people of a slightly younger age > group (they could have thrown in some more unknown songs, like stuff by > the Dead Kennedys). I think they put the hard edge (well, harder than what > WXKS had been playing, certainly) to attract the young liberal audience. And annoy the older liberal audience, I'm afraid. I would have liked to hear some of the other songs you've mentioned. In fact, I wonder why Bob doesn't play them. While Bob was right, the music they were playing probably does sound rather obnoxious to the old "Music of Your Life" audience, it wasn't just random music or a thumbing of nose at the audience of the old format. It was a promotion of the coming format. While listening to the Stephanie Miller show this morning, I was surprised to hear a commercial from the Coast Guard. The government is advertising on a left-wing station? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Oct 5 07:17:23 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Oct 5 07:17:26 2004 Subject: Air America In-Reply-To: <4161FB73.12974.9042C2@localhost> References: <20041004055704.D3D22394A@mprdmxin.myway.com> <4161FB73.12974.9042C2@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20041005071025.01b17ba8@pop3.bit-net.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: >And annoy the older liberal audience, I'm afraid. I would have liked to >hear some of the other >songs you've mentioned. In fact, I wonder why Bob doesn't play them. > >While listening to the Stephanie Miller show this morning, I was surprised >to hear a >commercial from the Coast Guard. The government is advertising on a >left-wing station? I suppose they advertise on altrock stations...that format seems to attract the more left-leaning youth as opposed to CHR or more mainstream rock. I do wonder how much appeal AA will have to 20somethings once the novelty wears off though. While they don't seem to get much attention, there are plenty of conservative 20 year olds. Regardless of ideology, talk radio (especially on AM) has always been and is still primarily a format for an over-40 crowd. I really doubt "in your face" hard rock is the way to appeal to them. The Dead Kennedys' appeal was pretty minimal even in their day, let alone now. From nostaticatall@comcast.net Tue Oct 5 02:53:32 2004 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Tue Oct 5 11:45:58 2004 Subject: Cities where a format dominates? In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.0.20041005012123.01cf7f38@gwind.pair.com> References: <20041004165837.E01183991@mprdmxin.myway.com> <6.0.1.1.0.20041005012123.01cf7f38@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <456D02C4-169B-11D9-8E76-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> Funny, that's not how a lot of these stations are marketed to the advertising community. Groups like Univision and SBS are considered "Hispanic broadcasters." They specialize in Spanish language formats. While Univision does have some English language stations in their portfolio, their mission is to reach Spanish speaking audiences, just as Radio One exists as a specialty group targeting African American radio listeners. To them, Spanish is a "format," with different offshoots of it to reach different demos. You talk about the diversity of "English language" formats. This really does not exist in Hispanic broadcasting. There are basically three major formats targeting Hispanics--Contemporary, which tends to be more AC-ish in nature, Regional Mexican targeted to Spanish speakers of Mexican descent, and Tropical, which caters to Hispanics with Caribbean heritage. A few markets have Spanish news-talk stations, but that format really hasn't done all that well. There is the same amount of "flavors" of Spanish language stations as there are with Urban stations (Urban AC, Urban Oldies, Urban Contemporary.) Like Hispanic radio, stations targeting African Americans tend to be lumped into one classification. Both Urban and "Spanish" target specific minority groups, which are only the majority in a handful of markets. Why should Spanish language stations, at least at this point in their development, be categorized any differently than Urban stations? --Dave "Mike Thomas" On Oct 5, 2004, at 1:29 AM, Scott Fybush wrote: > Spanish is a language, not a format. That's like saying Los Angeles > (which is where I'm typing tonight) has 23 "English language format" > stations. > > Look at the demographics out here - and in particular, the growing > diversity WITHIN the broad stroke of "Hispanic" - and if anything, the > Spanish-speaking population here is probably underserved, in a radio > stations per capita sense, compared with the Anglos. (Also true of > Miami.) > > English-speaking audiences get news, talk, sports, religion, and all > sorts of music ranging from oldies to AC to more contemporary formats. > Why should Spanish-speaking audiences get any less, at least when > there are as many of them as markets like LA now have? From scott@fybush.com Tue Oct 5 03:16:39 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Oct 5 11:46:05 2004 Subject: Cities where a format dominates? In-Reply-To: <456D02C4-169B-11D9-8E76-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> References: <20041004165837.E01183991@mprdmxin.myway.com> <6.0.1.1.0.20041005012123.01cf7f38@gwind.pair.com> <456D02C4-169B-11D9-8E76-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20041005025701.01df2770@gwind.pair.com> At 02:53 AM 10/5/2004, David Tomm wrote: >While Univision does have some English language stations in their >portfolio, their mission is to reach Spanish speaking audiences, just as >Radio One exists as a specialty group targeting African American radio >listeners. To them, Spanish is a "format," with different offshoots of it >to reach different demos. My friends at Univision Radio would disagree with you strenuously on that point. To look at their clusters in Chicago or Dallas or here in LA and say they're all a "Spanish format" with various offshoots is as ludicrous as it would be to walk into Clear Channel LA (as I did this afternoon) and say that the eight stations there are all an "English format" with various offshoots. >You talk about the diversity of "English language" formats. This really >does not exist in Hispanic broadcasting. There are basically three major >formats targeting Hispanics--Contemporary, which tends to be more AC-ish >in nature, Regional Mexican targeted to Spanish speakers of Mexican >descent, and Tropical, which caters to Hispanics with Caribbean >heritage. A few markets have Spanish news-talk stations, but that format >really hasn't done all that well. There is the same amount of "flavors" of >Spanish language stations as there are with Urban stations (Urban AC, >Urban Oldies, Urban Contemporary.) Come out to California and you'll also hear... Spanish language religion of various flavors (music-based and preaching/teaching) Cumbias (Central American dance music) Rock en Espanol Spanish hits (essentially a high-energy CHR in Spanish) Spanish oldies (Univision's very popular "Recuerdo" format) And the most popular drive-time shows among the Hispanic audience out here (El Cucuy, for instance) are essentially Spanish-language analogs of Howard Stern - mostly talk, very little music, and VERY raunchy. >Like Hispanic radio, stations targeting African Americans tend to be >lumped into one classification. Both Urban and "Spanish" target specific >minority groups, which are only the majority in a handful of markets. Why >should Spanish language stations, at least at this point in their >development, be categorized any differently than Urban stations? They shouldn't be - there's a wide variety of formats targeting black audiences, too. It's just less obvious in more homogeneous markets like Boston (6% Hispanic, 6% black) than in Los Angeles (37% Hispanic, 8% black) or Miami (41% Hispanic, 19% black). (Note that the Los Angeles market has more Hispanics than the entire population of Puerto Rico...) s From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Oct 5 13:10:28 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Oct 5 13:10:40 2004 Subject: Herald letter: WJIB's "Bob Gilbson" Message-ID: <20041005171028.E7C3B12D1F@mprdmxin.myway.com> A letter to the editor in today's Boston Herald praised Beverly Beckham's column about the loss of "good music" on WXKS; but the letter-writer did mention that good music could still be found on "Bob Gilbson (sic)'s WJIB AM-740". It's the thought that counts, I guess! _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Oct 5 13:18:16 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Oct 5 13:18:28 2004 Subject: Stephanie Miller on 1200, 1430 Message-ID: <20041005171816.549FD39F1@mprdmxin.myway.com> --- On Tue 10/05, Rony Camille < ronycamille@hotmail.com > wrote: >>Thsi would be The Stephanie Miller the comedian who's  father ran >>for VP in the late 60s-70s (im in my 20s) sorry?? the same >>Stephanie Miller who had a nationally syndicated show on ABC radio >>network with KABC-AM as it's flagship? if it's true then GREAT Yes it is :) http://www.stephaniemiller.com I'm slightly older than you, but the Goldwater-Miller ticket ran back when I was a mere two-year-old...in the same year when those four moptops from Liverpool conquered the US. Later, William E. Miller, who has since passed away, did one of the first American Express TV commercials: "Hello, do you know me?" On her show yesterday, Steph Miller mentioned that while she's a liberal and a sibling or two are also liberals, her mom is not (and her brother William E. Miller, Jr., is also conservative). Another example of political ideology not being reflected in offspring is the late Wally George, conservative talk host whose daughter Rebecca de Mornay (actress) felt the opposite way politically. (And I would wager Henry Fonda's offspring Jane and Peter did not agree politically with Dad, either, but I could be wrong.) So...yes, it's the same Steph Miller who had been heard nationwide including WRKO (weeknights at 10 pm) till ABC pulled the plug. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Oct 5 13:23:45 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Oct 5 13:23:57 2004 Subject: Air America Message-ID: <20041005172345.DEAD43A0A@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>While they don't seem to get much attention, there are plenty of conservative 20 year olds. True...especially in the heartland or "flyover states". More than a few twenty-somethings call Sean Hannity and agree with him. There are even some conservative punk rockers. >>Regardless of ideology, talk radio (especially on AM) has always been and is still primarily a format for an over-40 crowd. Right, though of course there have been things like Air America, Democracy Now!, and shows like one I heard via tape from LA's KLSX...a Sunday morning talk show with a young-sounding, liberal- leaning host whose callers seemed either liberal or moderate. >>The Dead Kennedys' appeal was pretty minimal even in their day, let alone now Right, but in their day they did do some political songs. For the most part, they leaned left but also could give a jab to liberal politicians, too. The booklet for their "best of" album spoofed Ted Kennedy's Chappaquiddick incident as part of the lyric sheet for their song "Too Drunk..." _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Oct 5 16:13:36 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Oct 5 16:13:47 2004 Subject: Ch. 5 and Sox; Yanks not on WEEI Message-ID: <20041005201336.0726F12D14@mprdmxin.myway.com> Didn't know of this till I was doing some channel flipping, but it looks like Ch. 5 is carrying ESPN's feed of the Red Sox in the division series so those without cable can still see the Sox. Not surprising...the whole ESPN/ABC connection, as seen when the Pats have a Sunday night ESPN game... Meanwhile both papers indicate that tonight's game with the dreaded and despised Yanks will not be on WEEI, as they're opting for Ted Nation Sox talk till midnight. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From markwats@comcast.net Tue Oct 5 16:44:53 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue Oct 5 16:45:10 2004 Subject: Ch. 5 and Sox; Yanks not on WEEI References: <20041005201336.0726F12D14@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <003601c4ab1c$2cbf8740$6f918318@Mark> Bob Nelson wrote: > Didn't know of this till I was doing some channel flipping, but >it looks like Ch. 5 is carrying ESPN's feed of the Red Sox in >the division series so those without cable can still see the Sox. >Not surprising...the whole ESPN/ABC > connection, as seen when the Pats have a Sunday night >ESPN game. When WCVB (Channel 5) carries the ESPN broadcasts of the Patriots' Sunday night games, those games also air on co-owned WMUR (Channel 9 Manchester NH). However, the rules for carrying ESPN's football over the air must not be the same for baseball, as the Red Sox game is only available over the air on Channel 5. Mark Watson From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Oct 5 16:47:31 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Oct 5 16:47:57 2004 Subject: WMKI Testing IBOC Again Message-ID: <20041005204731.1EF22C610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Almost a month ago (09/11/04) I observed IBOC hash interfering with WKBR-AM 1250 in Manchester, NH, so I tuned up the dial to WMKI-AM 1260 in Boston and noticed that the Radio Disney broadcast sounded odd, i.e. lower in volume and slightly disembodied. Then I tuned to WTSN-AM 1270 in Dover, NH and they were getting worse hash than WKBR. I posted this observation to the B.R.I.G. that day...and to prove I wasn't overdosing on Sam Adams, Mr. Decimalman, Kaimbridge Goldchild, also mentioned that he had noticed the same phenomenon. Well, after checking AM 1260's sideband almost daily since then, I can report that it is happening right now, 4:30 pm on Tuesday, Oct. 5th. Now obviously that could change momentarily because just like WBZ-AM, they can be expected to pull the plug on IBOC transmission before sunset. But, as I mentioned in september, WMKI differs from the 1170 SFR blowtorch in that it exists right in the middle of stations on adjacent and second ajacent frequencies with which its signal will have to contend. Right now, it's making it difficult to hear Hannity on WKBR, and even more difficult to hear the ESPN-sourced ballgame on WTSN. Maybe folks closer to the WMKI transmitter in Quincy will do some observing of the IBOC testing (if that is what it is) to see the effects on WESX or WJDA, as well as the NH stations mentioned already. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Wed Oct 6 16:15:12 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Wed Oct 6 16:21:42 2004 Subject: Digital AM Transmission Research Message-ID: <20041006201512.74187.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> Here's a new question for everyone, As my time in the Master's Degree program here at Marist College winds down, a thought has come to mind. I know most, if not all colleges with PhD programs have various kinds of research going on in the field of the appropriate PhD major. Does anybody know if any universities in the US have any sort of technical research going on in regard to digital radio broadcasting techniques? (IBOC AM transmission techniques, transmitting standard streaming mp3 or ogg vorbis audio over the standard AM band, etc) Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From billo@shoreham.net Thu Oct 7 07:19:41 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Oct 7 07:19:49 2004 Subject: Stern dollars Message-ID: <4165264D.9050603@shoreham.net> Sirius says that all they will need to cover the entire Stern deal is to sign up one million more subscribers. (They are at about ten million now.) That will happen in the first few hours that Stern is about to jump over, only limited by their purchase page's bandwidth. I don't think that we can overestimate what's next for subscriber radio. Stern will grow that medium like he has for drive-time big market network programming over the past 10 years. Bill O'Neill From dcassell@gmail.com Thu Oct 7 08:51:53 2004 From: dcassell@gmail.com (Damon Cassell) Date: Thu Oct 7 08:52:14 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <4165264D.9050603@shoreham.net> References: <4165264D.9050603@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <2979f9f404100705512b05fee8@mail.gmail.com> > Sirius says that all they will need to cover the entire Stern deal is to > sign up one million more subscribers. (They are at about ten million > now.) Sirius has 600,000 subscribers. From gary@garysicecream.com Thu Oct 7 09:16:02 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Thu Oct 7 09:16:16 2004 Subject: Stern dollars References: <4165264D.9050603@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <02bf01c4ac6f$cb7b76b0$6500a8c0@office> Actually Sirius currently has 660,000 and XM has 2.2 million according to published reports Sirius is also deeply in the red ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:19 AM Subject: Stern dollars > Sirius says that all they will need to cover the entire Stern deal is to > sign up one million more subscribers. (They are at about ten million now.) > That will happen in the first few hours that Stern is about to jump over, > only limited by their purchase page's bandwidth. > > I don't think that we can overestimate what's next for subscriber radio. > Stern will grow that medium like he has for drive-time big market network > programming over the past 10 years. > > Bill O'Neill From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Oct 7 10:41:11 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu Oct 7 10:41:32 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <02bf01c4ac6f$cb7b76b0$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: <000001c4ac7b$b14aa2f0$c3ec33d1@alvin> I suppose if you're that far into the hole, you can promise anything and use a bankruptcy to get out of the contracts when the time comes. Hopefully, for Stern, they won't leave him holding the bag at transition time. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of gic > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:16 AM > To: billo@shoreham.net > Cc: Boston radio e-mail list > Subject: Re: Stern dollars > > > Actually Sirius currently has 660,000 and XM has 2.2 million > according to > published reports > > Sirius is also deeply in the red > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill O'Neill" > To: "Boston Radio Interest" > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:19 AM > Subject: Stern dollars > > > > Sirius says that all they will need to cover the entire > Stern deal is > > to > > sign up one million more subscribers. (They are at about > ten million now.) > > That will happen in the first few hours that Stern is about > to jump over, > > only limited by their purchase page's bandwidth. > > > > I don't think that we can overestimate what's next for subscriber > > radio. > > Stern will grow that medium like he has for drive-time big > market network > > programming over the past 10 years. > > > > Bill O'Neill > From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Oct 7 14:04:02 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Oct 7 14:04:05 2004 Subject: Stern Gets Sirius Message-ID: <200410071404.AA3844145300@mail.ttlc.net> The Associated Press today said Howard Stern "...has long had two words for the Federal Communications Commission - and in 15 months, he can finally utter them on the air." Sounds just like Johnny Fever's pent-up ambition to say "Booger" on the air at WKRP. From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Oct 7 16:55:01 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Oct 7 16:55:06 2004 Subject: WBZ Breaks Up Message-ID: <200410071655.AA374866282@mail.ttlc.net> Did anybody catch the on-air breakup on WBZ last night? It started during the last 5 minutes of the Paul Sullivan show and lasted until somewhere after 12:20. It sounded like the audio was being fragmented into 1/4 second chunks and every second or so, two would be reversed. Anybody know what would cause this? It almost had an aura of digital failure. From billo@shoreham.net Thu Oct 7 17:05:47 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Oct 7 17:05:51 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <2979f9f404100705512b05fee8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4165264D.9050603@shoreham.net> <2979f9f404100705512b05fee8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4165AFAB.2050908@shoreham.net> Damon Cassell wrote: >Sirius has 600,000 subscribers. > > Only 600K? ...I was misinformed. (Sounded better when Bogart said it.) So, what's the verdict? Can Sirius wait 14 months? Makes you wonder if Stern's getting a piece of the action. Bill O'Neill From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Oct 7 17:12:11 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Oct 7 17:12:14 2004 Subject: Stern dollars Message-ID: <200410071712.AA134480366@mail.ttlc.net> "Bill O'Neill" postulated: Makes you wonder if Stern's getting a piece of the action. If he's as shrewd as he's made out to be and his agent is worth his salt, I'd say yes. But, I'll bet it's still laced with significant upfront cash. From billo@shoreham.net Thu Oct 7 17:13:12 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Oct 7 17:13:15 2004 Subject: WBZ Breaks Up In-Reply-To: <200410071655.AA374866282@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200410071655.AA374866282@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <4165B168.4070900@shoreham.net> rogerkirk wrote: >Did anybody catch the on-air breakup on WBZ last night? >It started during the last 5 minutes of the Paul Sullivan >show and lasted until somewhere after 12:20. > > "Hull" if we know. Bill O'Neill From mamros@MIT.EDU Thu Oct 7 17:23:48 2004 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Thu Oct 7 17:23:53 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:05:47 EDT." <4165AFAB.2050908@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <200410072123.i97LNmiW018853@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> >Can Sirius wait 14 months? There's been some speculation that Infinity/Viacom and Stern might negotiate to let him out of his contract early. Stern would certainly welcome it; the only question is if it makes sense for Viacom, which otherwise has to deal with Stern plugging Sirius on their airwaves for the next 14 months. Regardless of whether that happens or not, it will certainly be a good test of how popular Stern really is. (Cue up the Tom Petty song...) -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From tklaundry@juno.com Thu Oct 7 19:05:05 2004 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Thu Oct 7 19:10:23 2004 Subject: What is THIS??!! Message-ID: <20041007.191110.-462609.2.tklaundry@juno.com> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "ISMonitor" To: Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 00:55:53 +0100 Subject: Information Message-ID: <17ee001c4ac00$039e4ce0$331610ac@ismonitors02> Welcome. Your internet page www.bostonradio.org at port 80 has been chosen for FREE monitoring in next 7 days. We believe that you are doing best to keep your pages available to your partners at all times. 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Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Oct 7 23:58:26 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <200410072123.i97LNmiW018853@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> References: Your message of "Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:05:47 EDT." <4165AFAB.2050908@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <4165D875.29948.5F2976@localhost> On 7 Oct 2004 at 17:23, Shawn Mamros wrote: > There's been some speculation that Infinity/Viacom and Stern might > negotiate to let him out of his contract early. Stern would certainly > welcome it; the only question is if it makes sense for Viacom, which > otherwise has to deal with Stern plugging Sirius on their airwaves for the > next 14 months. Infinity isn't without remedies if Stern keeps plugging Sirius or doing other things that Infinity considers detrimental. Their contract with Stern may well allow them to take him off the air but keep him under contract to them for the duration of the contract -- effectively keeping him off the air for the next 15 months. That's what ABC did when Johnny Carson, who hosted a weekday afternoon quiz show on their netork, agreed to host the Tonight Show. They immediately took Johnny off the air, but kept him under contract. He couldn't go to NBC for about six months until his ABC contract expired. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From francini@mac.com Fri Oct 8 00:18:30 2004 From: francini@mac.com (John J. Francini) Date: Fri Oct 8 00:18:39 2004 Subject: What is THIS??!! In-Reply-To: <20041007.191110.-462609.2.tklaundry@juno.com> References: <20041007.191110.-462609.2.tklaundry@juno.com> Message-ID: Dave, This is spam from a company trying to sell you a web monitoring service. I get these all the time because my name is the domain registrar for a bunch of domains. Unless you're really interested in it, it's just another piece of SPAM for your E-mail's spam filter... John Francini (who's a sysadmin in his day job...) [original message snipped] -- ---- John Francini +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; | | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress.| | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" | | -- John Adams | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From billo@shoreham.net Fri Oct 8 06:36:19 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Oct 8 06:36:24 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <4165D875.29948.5F2976@localhost> References: Your message of "Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:05:47 EDT." <4165AFAB.2050908@shoreham.net> <4165D875.29948.5F2976@localhost> Message-ID: <41666DA3.3000602@shoreham.net> A. Joseph Ross wrote: >Their contract with Stern may well allow them to take him off the air >but keep him under contract to them for the duration of the contract -- effectively keeping him >off the air for the next 15 months. > > Just tuned over to Stern and he's pushing his new medium. In typical Stern style, he predicted that sat radio will blow up FM in five years. He likens his planned move (as are some columnists) to Uncle Milty moving to television from radio. Early challenges, he cites, are detractors concern that Stern, unlike Opie & Anthony, will not cost extra for that channel, essentially being equally accessible to kids as the kid channels, etc. The "subscriber" defense seems solid enough to quell that, IMO. Bill O'Neill From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Oct 8 07:41:58 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Oct 8 07:42:00 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <41666DA3.3000602@shoreham.net> References: <4165D875.29948.5F2976@localhost> <41666DA3.3000602@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20041008073530.01bc3f10@pop3.bit-net.com> Bill O'Neill wrote: >Just tuned over to Stern and he's pushing his new medium. In typical >Stern style, he predicted that sat radio will blow up FM in five years. >He likens his planned move (as are some columnists) to Uncle Milty moving >to television from radio. I'd like some of whatever it is Stern is smoking. While satellite radio is a good place for shock jocks like him, Bubba the Love Sponge, Dopey & Anthony and others of their ilk, I can't see it "blowing up" FM anytime soon, if ever. If anything "blows up" terrestrial radio it will be IBOC. I'm amazed that his "persecuted artiste" schtik has held up all these years. Would serve him right if the move bombed badly. From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Oct 8 08:09:52 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri Oct 8 08:10:46 2004 Subject: Stern dollars References: <4165D875.29948.5F2976@localhost> <41666DA3.3000602@shoreham.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20041008073530.01bc3f10@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <001d01c4ad2f$d3c3a8e0$19eefea9@satpro4600> I don't think IBOC will blow up FM. If it really gets going on AM, though, it could blow up AM, whose current state of health is rather tenuous. The mixed-mode technology just doesn't work well enough with AM's limited bandwidth--and it never will. OTOH, IBOC could work on the AM band if the AM part of the system went away and the digital info on the sidebands were moved to the center of the channel. This would leave an overly complex, poorer performing, proprietary version of DRM whose only real reason for its being used (as opposed to the real DRM) would be the need to keep iBiquity's royalty stream alive. Presumably, AM stations that invested in HD Radio would preserve their investments, but given the magnitude of the changes that would be necessary with the elimination of the AM part of HD Radio, that assertion would have to be proven in practice. My guess is that the changeover would be just as painful and almost as costly as the initial installation of HD Radio. Moreover, the assertion that HD Radio receivers can be reprogrammed to work with a modified system that lacks AM signals would also have to be proven in practice. I think this two-phase approach to an incompatible (with analog) all-digital AM-band version of HD Radio would leave such a bad taste in the public's mouth that they would simply walk away from the AM band when analog transmissions that they can receive on existing receivers cease to be available. Maybe the industry will wake up to the enormity of this self-inflicted mess before it's too late, but I'm not sure. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: SteveOrdinetz To: Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 7:41 AM Subject: Re: Stern dollars > Bill O'Neill wrote: > > >Just tuned over to Stern and he's pushing his new medium. In typical > >Stern style, he predicted that sat radio will blow up FM in five years. > >He likens his planned move (as are some columnists) to Uncle Milty moving > >to television from radio. > > I'd like some of whatever it is Stern is smoking. While satellite radio is > a good place for shock jocks like him, Bubba the Love Sponge, Dopey & > Anthony and others of their ilk, I can't see it "blowing up" FM anytime > soon, if ever. If anything "blows up" terrestrial radio it will be IBOC. > > I'm amazed that his "persecuted artiste" schtik has held up all these > years. Would serve him right if the move bombed badly. > > From stevewest106@hotmail.com Fri Oct 8 09:25:25 2004 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Fri Oct 8 09:26:17 2004 Subject: Stern dollars Message-ID: > >I'd like some of whatever it is Stern is smoking. While satellite radio is >a good place for shock jocks like him, Bubba the Love Sponge, Dopey & >Anthony and others of their ilk, I can't see it "blowing up" FM anytime >soon, if ever. If anything "blows up" terrestrial radio it will be IBOC. > >I'm amazed that his "persecuted artiste" schtik has held up all these >years. Would serve him right if the move bombed badly I'm not sure Stern is so far off base. I think that in time, what we know as commercial AM and FM will radically change, but not completely due to Stern's move. Here's my theory: 1. The FM stations which will see a big void with Stern's departure in their morning drive will have to come up with something. My guess is that most will simply do wall-to-wall music for a time, to lessen the effect his departure will have on whomever the unfortunate next morning host is. Inevitably, these stations will have to move to a more local, information intensive approach. 2. I think we will see a major push by the two satellite broadcasters to get Americans to purchase new home receivers. This, coupled with XM & Sirius being available as standard features in cars & trucks will make the medium instantly available, pretty much on demand. Couple that, with the satellite broadcasters' hiring most of the major terrestrial talent away, I think will make satellite a major attraction to listeners. 3. If XM/Sirius ever figure out that they could provide a 'basic' free subscription package with a few limited music and news/talk channels to attract an initial audience then intice them to purchase an enhanced package, you guys better figure out that terrestrial radio is essentially doomed, except for the few FM stations which understand that they key to success will be a full-service format, modelled after what AM was doing in the late 70s/early 80s. As for AM... under this scenario, it is all but dead. HD Radio (IBOC, for those who care) is an abysmal failure and anyone who has studied it knows this fact. If the FCC pushes ahead with its requirements that all stations go digital, on time... the end is near. (perhaps that's why my station cluster just this fall has inked sports contracts with the major pro teams for live games on each of it's stations. Foresight?) Stern? Aside from delusions of grandeur, he is correct in a number of areas about the demise of traditional AM & FM. But whether or not one believes that, one thing is certain: all things evolve, and the next logical step for broadcasting is for the total music 'stations' to be done nationwide via satellite, and FM to be the place for your local information with some music and lots of talk. That's the inevitable evolution of radio, IMHO. From mamros@MIT.EDU Fri Oct 8 09:56:57 2004 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Fri Oct 8 09:57:12 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 07 Oct 2004 23:59:49 EDT." <4165D875.29948.5F2976@localhost> Message-ID: <200410081356.i98Duvvg002611@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> >[...] Their contract with Stern may well allow them to take him off the air >but keep him under contract to them for the duration of the contract -- >effectively keeping him off the air for the next 15 months. > >That's what ABC did when Johnny Carson, who hosted a weekday afternoon >quiz show on their netork, agreed to host the Tonight Show. [...] I have a hunch Stern's current contract with Infinity gives him far better terms for that sort of thing than what Carson would've had in the early 60's (when he wasn't a complete unknown, but nowhere near being as a big name as he became on the Tonight Show). Don't know that Stern could've gotten himself an outright "no-suspension" clause (though maybe with his friend Mel Karmazin heading Infinity at the time, he did), but I can't imagine he'd leave himself open to the possibility of an extended suspension without being able to walk away from it. And the fact that he is still apparently talking about Sirius, and getting away with it, probably confirms just how much leeway he's been given in his contract. If things are really weighted that much in his favor, Viacom (now Mel-less) may have plenty of incentive to allow him to walk early. -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From mamros@MIT.EDU Fri Oct 8 10:32:37 2004 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Fri Oct 8 10:32:41 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:25:25 CDT." Message-ID: <200410081432.i98EWbnA005473@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> >3. If XM/Sirius ever figure out that they could provide a 'basic' free >subscription package with a few limited music and news/talk channels to >attract an initial audience then intice them to purchase an enhanced >package, you guys better figure out that terrestrial radio is essentially >doomed, except for the few FM stations which understand that they key to >success will be a full-service format, modelled after what AM was doing in >the late 70s/early 80s. [...] On my most recent trip to visit my family in Pittsburgh, the Hertz rental car had a Sirius receiver built in, with all channels available. (Didn't get a chance to play around with it, though; my fiancee brought CDs. ;-) Don't know if XM has a similar deal with another rental firm, but that sure seems like a clever way to get folks introduced to the concept, and if they like it enough, they'll subscribe to it at home. As for the notion of the so-called full-service format (make that the "try-to-be-all-things-to-all-people" format) making a grand return, I just don't see it. Most people seem to want to listen to what they like most. If they like a particular type of music, they want a station that plays it, with as little interruption with other stuff as possible. If/when they want to hear news instead, tune to "the news station". If they're in the mood for talk, tune to "the talk station". That's the model people have become comfortable with on TV, for certain, and I don't see radio as being any different. Terrestrial radio will have to become more locally-oriented if satellite radio does catch on, no question about it. But I don't see that translating to the "full-service" format maing a comeback. And as for the notion that companies currently in terrestrial broadcasting are gonna be quaking in their boots if the satellites do become successful, keep in mind that those same companies will be just as glad to provide content for the satellites (if they aren't already), and save themselves the expense of maintaining terrestrial broadcasting facilities. The money will ultimately wind up in the same pockets; it'll just take a different route to get there, IMO. -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Oct 8 11:27:15 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri Oct 8 11:27:22 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <200410081432.i98EWbnA005473@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> Message-ID: <002301c4ad4b$4ad8c850$c3ec33d1@alvin> > On my most recent trip to visit my family in Pittsburgh, the > Hertz rental car had a Sirius receiver built in, with all > channels available. (Didn't get a chance to play around with > it, though; my fiancee brought CDs. ;-) Don't know if XM has > a similar deal with another rental firm, but that sure seems > like a clever way to get folks introduced to the concept Many of the Avis cars that I rent have XM in them. You have full access to all of the standard channels. You do not have access to the premium channels which, at this time, are limited to the Playboy Channel (on radio? - oh, your knobs are so big...)or the Dopie and Andy channel (called High Voltage). I've had XM in both of my vehicles since shortly after it went on the air. Overall, I'm very happy with the service and the variety of programming available. I do a lot of cross country driving and it makes the drive a bit more bearable. I've listened to the same channel for hundreds of miles without a loss. Typically, depending on my mood, I'll start out with XM71 (Watercolors - smooth jazz), flip to XM121 (Fox News - TV soundtrack), drop in on Tony Snow on XM164(ABC News/Talk), then Laura Ingram on XM165 (America Right), and when I need some brain dead filler, XM162 E! Entertainment (wow, an interview with Meg Ryan). I still listen to local radio (WRKO, WTKK, WMWM) but not nearly as much as I used to. I think that the two mediums can co-exist but that commercial radio needs to wake-up and reposition itself. Get rid of the majority of the consultants and use some common sense in programming. I don't see any wisdom in letting Stern rant on stations like WBCN essentially giving Sirius a free commercial to compete with BCN. If they can't censor it, they should pull him early and wean the audience onto something else before D-day comes. In the interest of disclosure, I should note that I've recently become an XM commercial license dealer. That is to say that I sell the radios with a license to use in a business environment (retail, offices, etc). It was because I liked XM so much that I decided to pick it up, not the reverse. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com From sid@wrko.com Fri Oct 8 11:04:17 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri Oct 8 11:31:49 2004 Subject: Stern dollars Message-ID: >>Don't know if XM has a similar deal with another rental firm, but that sure seems like a clever way to get folks introduced to the concept, and if they like it enough, they'll subscribe to it at home.<< XM has such a deal with Avis. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Oct 8 12:42:34 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri Oct 8 12:42:41 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <41666DA3.3000602@shoreham.net> References: "Your message of Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:05:47 EDT." <4165AFAB.2050908@shoreham.net> <4165D875.29948.5F2976@localhost> <41666DA3.3000602@shoreham.net> Message-ID: At 6:36 AM -0400 10/8/04, Bill O'Neill wrote: >Just tuned over to Stern and he's pushing his new medium. In >typical Stern style, he predicted that sat radio will blow up FM in >five years. He likens his planned move (as are some columnists) to >Uncle Milty moving to television from radio. Early challenges, he >cites, are detractors concern that Stern, unlike Opie & Anthony, >will not cost extra for that channel, essentially being equally >accessible to kids as the kid channels, etc. The "subscriber" >defense seems solid enough to quell that, IMO. Sirius has stated that they will never have extra charges for premium services. This makes me think that the receivers are designed so that individual channels can not be enabled or disabled, only the entire receiver. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Oct 8 12:52:03 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri Oct 8 12:52:11 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <200410081432.i98EWbnA005473@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> References: <200410081432.i98EWbnA005473@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> Message-ID: At 10:32 AM -0400 10/8/04, Shawn Mamros wrote: > >And as for the notion that companies currently in terrestrial broadcasting >are gonna be quaking in their boots if the satellites do become successful, >keep in mind that those same companies will be just as glad to provide >content for the satellites (if they aren't already), and save themselves >the expense of maintaining terrestrial broadcasting facilities. The >money will ultimately wind up in the same pockets; it'll just take a >different route to get there, IMO. To prove your point, Clear Channel already owns a small percentage of XM, -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From rickkelly@gmail.com Fri Oct 8 13:09:23 2004 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Fri Oct 8 13:09:37 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <41666DA3.3000602@shoreham.net> References: <4165AFAB.2050908@shoreham.net> <4165D875.29948.5F2976@localhost> <41666DA3.3000602@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <521b7fd1041008100922e1712e@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 06:36:19 -0400, Bill O'Neill wrote: > Just tuned over to Stern and he's pushing his new medium. In typical > Stern style, he predicted that sat radio will blow up FM in five years. > He likens his planned move (as are some columnists) to Uncle Milty > moving to television from radio. Berle certainly set the world on fire on early TV, but as the 1950's wore on he and his act became less and less popular as more competition came on. Stern is now in his mid 50's; I wonder how much longer he can do his act and maintain listenership... before he becomes passe'? ---- Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From billo@shoreham.net Fri Oct 8 14:01:06 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Oct 8 14:01:13 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <521b7fd1041008100922e1712e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4165AFAB.2050908@shoreham.net> <4165D875.29948.5F2976@localhost> <41666DA3.3000602@shoreham.net> <521b7fd1041008100922e1712e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4166D5E2.2070709@shoreham.net> Rick Kelly wrote: >Stern is now in his mid 50's; I wonder how much >longer he can do his act and maintain listenership... before he >becomes passe'? > > Let's face it, sooner or later he's going to be even more of a caricature of himself than he already is. He and his staff must be at critical mass in terms of financial independence. Stern has hung his cans on being the "bad boy" and in busting management and all that goes with it. Once on Sirius, with free reign to do _anything_, and being answerable to no one but himself, where's his beef then? Does he go political like Imus has? Nope? Does he have even more naked women in his studio? The older he gets, the younger the women will seem and there could be an ick-factor. Bill O'Neill From mlaurence@mindspring.com Fri Oct 8 15:01:07 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (mlaurence@mindspring.com) Date: Fri Oct 8 15:01:12 2004 Subject: Jane Christo resigns Message-ID: <955372.1097262067664.JavaMail.root@wamui06.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Dan Kennedy reports receiving a WBUR press release announcing the resignation of Jane Christo as General Manager. http://www.bostonphoenix.com/medialog/index.asp Mark From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Oct 8 22:19:04 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Oct 8 22:19:12 2004 Subject: Stern dollars References: <200410081356.i98Duvvg002611@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> Message-ID: <009e01c4ada6$59906c30$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> How much time does the average person spend in the car per day? 90 minutes? How many people are willing to pay for radio for that amount of time? I wonder how big the market really is for satellite radio. From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Oct 8 22:20:31 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Oct 8 22:20:36 2004 Subject: Stern dollars References: <200410081432.i98EWbnA005473@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> Message-ID: <00a401c4ada6$8d004cc0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Mamros" To: "Steve West" Cc: Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:32 AM Subject: Re: Stern dollars > As for the notion of the so-called full-service format (make that the > "try-to-be-all-things-to-all-people" format) making a grand return, I > just don't see it. Most people seem to want to listen to what they > like most. If they like a particular type of music, they want a > station that plays it, with as little interruption with other stuff > as possible. If/when they want to hear news instead, tune to "the > news station". If they're in the mood for talk, tune to "the talk > station". That's the model people have become comfortable with on > TV, for certain, and I don't see radio as being any different. Radio today is like cable TV. Niche formats that people use when they want that product. From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Oct 8 23:51:06 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Oct 8 23:51:07 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <200410081432.i98EWbnA005473@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> References: <200410081432.i98EWbnA005473@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20041008234440.01bc2538@pop3.bit-net.com> Shawn Mamros wrote: >Terrestrial radio will have to become more locally-oriented if satellite >radio does catch on, no question about it. But I don't see that translating >to the "full-service" format maing a comeback. Just because programming originates in a studio in your city doesn't make it "local". I've heard plenty of "local" jocks whose idea of show prep is getting a bunch of artist tidbits or jokes off some website. Of course, the $1.98 question here is what does "locally-oriented" mean? Ask 10 people, get 11 answers. Casey Kasem almost single-handedly killed off local top 30 countdowns. "Localism" most assuredly does NOT mean returning to the way radio was done in (insert year you thought radio was great here), or as you mentioned returning to full-service radio. WHDH went talk for a reason. From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Oct 8 23:56:20 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Oct 8 23:56:19 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <00a401c4ada6$8d004cc0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <200410081432.i98EWbnA005473@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> <00a401c4ada6$8d004cc0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20041008235305.01bd5480@pop3.bit-net.com> Daniel Billings wrote: >Radio today is like cable TV. Niche formats that people use when they >want that product. And this is one area where terrestrial radio is at a disadvantage to satellite radio. Terrestrial radio has to be at least somewhat mass-appeal so as to attract a large enough audience to be appealing to advertisers. Satellite radio doesn't have that problem...they have your subscription fee, you could listen to the all Eminem channel for all they care. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Oct 9 01:02:55 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Oct 9 01:01:37 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <200410081356.i98Duvvg002611@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> References: Your message of "Thu, 07 Oct 2004 23:59:49 EDT." <4165D875.29948.5F2976@localhost> Message-ID: <416738BF.9154.50AFC4@localhost> On 8 Oct 2004 at 9:56, Shawn Mamros wrote: > And the fact that he is still apparently talking about Sirius, and > getting away with it, probably confirms just how much leeway he's > been given in his contract. If things are really weighted that much > in his favor, Viacom (now Mel-less) may have plenty of incentive to > allow him to walk early. Which leads me to wonder: Is Howard talking about Sirius in the HOPE that Infinity will let him go early. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Oct 9 01:02:55 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Oct 9 01:01:38 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <4166D5E2.2070709@shoreham.net> References: <521b7fd1041008100922e1712e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <416738BF.10533.50B005@localhost> On 8 Oct 2004 at 14:01, Bill O'Neill wrote: > Stern has hung his cans on being the "bad boy" and in busting management > and all that goes with it. Once on Sirius, with free reign to do > _anything_, and being answerable to no one but himself, where's his beef > then? Does he go political like Imus has? Nope? Does he have even more > naked women in his studio? The older he gets, the younger the women will > seem and there could be an ick-factor. Listening to the radio, you can't really tell that he's that old -- his age might begin to show in his voice some day, but that doesn't usually happen until well past 70. Of course, if he continues to have his show televised on E! ... -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From billo@shoreham.net Sat Oct 9 06:59:24 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Oct 9 06:59:33 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <416738BF.9154.50AFC4@localhost> References: Your message of "Thu, 07 Oct 2004 23:59:49 EDT." <4165D875.29948.5F2976@localhost> <416738BF.9154.50AFC4@localhost> Message-ID: <4167C48C.8020606@shoreham.net> A. Joseph Ross wrote: >Which leads me to wonder: Is Howard talking about Sirius in the HOPE that Infinity will let >him go early.\ > > I would not be blown away with amazement if Viacom brings some ready cash to the #2 satellite radio provider. I don't think Stern has ever had a big problem with his generous bosses. Persona aside, Stern is nothing if he is not loyal to those in his work life. He has maintained that his beef is with federal regulation. Bill O'Neill From steveord@bit-net.com Sat Oct 9 07:43:39 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Oct 9 07:43:51 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <4167C48C.8020606@shoreham.net> References: <416738BF.9154.50AFC4@localhost> <4167C48C.8020606@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20041009073918.01bc7f78@pop3.bit-net.com> Bill O'Neill wrote: >Persona aside, Stern is nothing if he is not loyal to those in his work >life. He has maintained that his beef is with federal regulation. Does anyone really think that satellite radio (or tv for that matter) will be forever immune to federal regulation/content oversight? THEN what'll be his options? Webcasting? As it is, it will be a looong time before his audience even comes close to what he has now once he goes on the bird. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Oct 9 08:17:28 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Oct 9 08:17:53 2004 Subject: Stern dollars References: <416738BF.9154.50AFC4@localhost> <4167C48C.8020606@shoreham.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20041009073918.01bc7f78@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <002501c4adf9$fd139f00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Sirius is supposed to be paying $100 million a year for five years for the costs of the show. That's half a BILLION over five years. Don't know how much of this goes to Stern himself. However, Sirius is also saying that they expect to get 1 million new subscribers as a result of Stern's presence. The subscribers pay $13/month or $156/year to subscribe, so if they were all on board by 1/1/2006--the date on which Stern's program is supposed to start airing (spacing?) on Sirius--the subscription revenues would more than cover the costs. Some people will undoubtedly subscribe BEFORE the program starts. Their subscription fees will be gravy to Sirius. But my guess is that the majority of new subscribers will trickle in over the five-year term of Stern's contract. So Sirius may or may not break even on the deal UNLESS they sell advertising. As I understand it, Sirius's music channels are commercial free, but the talk channels carry commercials and Stern will be on a talk channel. So how much ad revenue is Sirius likely to bring in over five years from a program that (sooner or later) attracts 1 million listeners per day from a desirable demographic? Is $0.50 per impression a reasonable cost? Do 20 spots per hour constitute a reasonable commercial load? Will the program air for four hours per day? If so, we have 20*$0.50*4*10^6 or $40 million per day (if my math is right). Assuming that the program airs only five days per week, that comes to 260 days per year. In other words, more than $10 BILLION per year. Sounds as if Sirius has made one absolutely incredible deal! (Spend $100 million/year; get back $10 billion per year without even counting the subscription revenues.) How does $10 billion/year stack up against the revenues from ALL of terrestrial radio? Somebody please do a sanity check on this! -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: SteveOrdinetz To: Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 7:43 AM Subject: Re: Stern dollars > Bill O'Neill wrote: > >Persona aside, Stern is nothing if he is not loyal to those in his work > >life. He has maintained that his beef is with federal regulation. > > Does anyone really think that satellite radio (or tv for that matter) will > be forever immune to federal regulation/content oversight? THEN what'll be > his options? Webcasting? > > As it is, it will be a looong time before his audience even comes close to > what he has now once he goes on the bird. > > From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Oct 12 10:08:04 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Oct 12 10:08:15 2004 Subject: satellite radio in a restaurant Message-ID: <20041012140804.7E6443A08@mprdmxin.myway.com> While in Connecticut yesterday I heard Sirius 31, a country station from that satellite provider, being played at a BBQ restaurant. It sounded like a typical country station, only no commercials. The DJ did talk up the fact that Stern is now on Sirius, and he also mentioned the upcoming presidential debate could be found on Sirius channels like NPR, Fox News, and Air America. I don't have satellite radio but this is the first time I've heard it and it's interesting that it's being used as background music for a restaurant (...as opposed to a local country station-- desired because there are no ads?) I assume they pay royalties (as part of a fee) to ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC (country song licenser). Years ago when I worked at Building 19 they used to pipe WCGY over the sound system. They too probably had to pay royalties. But here we have a restaurant opting to play satellite radio over a broadcast signal. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue Oct 12 10:56:02 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue Oct 12 10:56:06 2004 Subject: satellite radio in a restaurant In-Reply-To: <20041012140804.7E6443A08@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <000801c4b06b$9868c9d0$c3ec33d1@alvin> > While in Connecticut yesterday I heard Sirius 31, a country > station from that satellite provider, being played at a BBQ > restaurant. It sounded like a typical country station, only > no commercials. The DJ did talk up the fact that Stern is now > on Sirius, and he also mentioned the upcoming presidential > debate could be found on Sirius channels like NPR, Fox News, > and Air America. > > I don't have satellite radio but this is the first time I've > heard it and it's interesting that it's being used as > background music for a restaurant (...as opposed to a local > country station-- desired because there are no ads?) I assume > they pay royalties (as part of a fee) to ASCAP, BMI, and > SESAC (country song licenser). > Both XM and Sirius offer a commercial package for businesses that carries the appropriate licenses for "public performance" in venues such as stores, offices and restaurants. Both services offer commercial free music channels with voice tracked DJ's offering live sounding patter. Although there's not any commercials, there is a lot of cross-promotions for other channels on the system. The VT is fresh enough that it doesn't sound canned and would most likely take a critical listener, like us, to pick up on it. While I can't speak for Sirius, XM's package is $29/month (no term contract) including licensing which makes it a lot less expensive than other systems such as Musak. The receiving hardware is about $170 (without installation). I'm sure that the Sirius package is competitively priced. This is not meant as an advertisement, rather just information. As a side note, XM receivers are starting to show up in high-end home automation/multi-media systems such as Crestron and others. The packages can be set up with a touch screen in each room of the house controlling lighting, HVAC, home security, music and/or video feed, etc. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com From dcassell@gmail.com Tue Oct 12 11:05:33 2004 From: dcassell@gmail.com (Damon Cassell) Date: Tue Oct 12 11:05:37 2004 Subject: satellite radio in a restaurant In-Reply-To: <20041012140804.7E6443A08@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20041012140804.7E6443A08@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <2979f9f404101208057f54bc00@mail.gmail.com> The Trader Joe's supermarket chain plays an XM channel in my local store (Swampscott). I believe most of their other stores do so as well. Damon On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:08:04 -0400 (EDT), Bob Nelson wrote: > > While in Connecticut yesterday I heard Sirius 31, a country station from that satellite provider, being played at a BBQ restaurant. It sounded like a typical country station, only no commercials. The DJ > did talk up the fact that Stern is now on Sirius, and he also mentioned the upcoming presidential debate could be found on > Sirius channels like NPR, Fox News, and Air America. > > I don't have satellite radio but this is the first time I've heard it and it's interesting that it's being used as background music > for a restaurant (...as opposed to a local country station-- > desired because there are no ads?) I assume they pay royalties > (as part of a fee) to ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC (country song > licenser). > > Years ago when I worked at Building 19 they used to pipe WCGY > over the sound system. They too probably had to pay royalties. > > But here we have a restaurant opting to play satellite radio > over a broadcast signal. > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com > From mlaurence@mindspring.com Tue Oct 12 11:11:33 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Tue Oct 12 11:11:37 2004 Subject: satellite radio in a restaurant In-Reply-To: <20041012140804.7E6443A08@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20041012140804.7E6443A08@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <00CC9A5A-1C61-11D9-AF6F-000393D13824@mindspring.com> I've heard satellite radio (Sirius also, I think) being played at Trader Joe's in Needham. I know that commercial enterprises pay more, and get a specialized service with fewer channels, if they subscribe to DirecTV. I wonder if the satellite networks also have a commercial subscribers' package? That could possibly include rights fees. Mark On Oct 12, 2004, at 10:08 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: > But here we have a restaurant opting to play satellite radio > over a broadcast signal. From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue Oct 12 11:29:45 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue Oct 12 11:29:50 2004 Subject: satellite radio in a restaurant In-Reply-To: <00CC9A5A-1C61-11D9-AF6F-000393D13824@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <000c01c4b070$4da60c50$c3ec33d1@alvin> > I've heard satellite radio (Sirius also, I think) being played at > Trader Joe's in Needham. > > I know that commercial enterprises pay more, and get a specialized > service with fewer channels, if they subscribe to DirecTV. I > wonder if > the satellite networks also have a commercial subscribers' package? > That could possibly include rights fees. > I don't know about Sirius but XM includes all channels except the Premium ones (Playboy and Dopie and Anthony) Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Oct 12 08:11:02 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Oct 12 11:35:51 2004 Subject: Howie Carr on the WBUR mess Message-ID: <20041012121102.A100612D48@mprdmxin.myway.com> Howie Carr commented on the WBUR mess on his Friday show (I taped it because it was up against the Red Sox game, and heard it yesterday). He kinda felt good that Jane Christo was gone because of the tiff between Christo and Howie's friend Chris Lydon (not sure how close their friendship is...maybe just a casual acquantaince?). Howie mentioned the financial problems WBUR is having (Fybush's North East Radio Watch mentions that they owe BU $12 million) and gave this example of perhaps the overspending that goes on: "In my office, we have a cheap AM radio tuned to the station (WRKO). I once went into WBUR and they had Bose Wave Radios playing what was on 'BUR...not music, but news!" Kinda gold-plated overspending at 'BUR, Howie? :) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From nostaticatall@comcast.net Tue Oct 12 01:35:21 2004 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Tue Oct 12 12:09:34 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <4166D5E2.2070709@shoreham.net> References: <4165AFAB.2050908@shoreham.net> <4165D875.29948.5F2976@localhost> <41666DA3.3000602@shoreham.net> <521b7fd1041008100922e1712e@mail.gmail.com> <4166D5E2.2070709@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <82710DF3-1C10-11D9-BCE8-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> People seem to forget that last year Stern's numbers were down significantly from previous years. He was off 20%, even more in some markets. His battles with the FCC and Clear Channel helped to spike his numbers considerably over the last few books. Take away the controversies surrounding him and what do you have? A dirty old man interviewing strippers and c-list celebrities. Also, Stern has the most loyal followings (and gets the best ratings) in the markets where his show has been on the longest, like New York, LA, DC, Philadelphia and Boston. He's just another morning show in most of his other markets. This doesn't bode well for a national rollout on subscription radio. If Sirius can get a bunch of the Stern diehards in the Northeast to sign up and get a few of their friends and family to get the service as well, they will make back their investment. However, I don't see Stern being the huge draw to satellite radio that Sirius and the industry are hoping he'll be. Outside of his battles with terrestrial radio, his show has gotten stale and predictable. Using four letter words and talking about racier topics won't save it. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Oct 8, 2004, at 2:01 PM, Bill O'Neill wrote: > Rick Kelly wrote: >> > Let's face it, sooner or later he's going to be even more of a > caricature of himself than he already is. He and his staff must be at > critical mass in terms of financial independence. > Stern has hung his cans on being the "bad boy" and in busting > management and all that goes with it. Once on Sirius, with free reign > to do _anything_, and being answerable to no one but himself, where's > his beef then? Does he go political like Imus has? Nope? Does he > have even more naked women in his studio? The older he gets, the > younger the women will seem and there could be an ick-factor. > > Bill O'Neill > From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Oct 11 20:17:54 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue Oct 12 12:39:35 2004 Subject: WGI- foursome no more ?? Now a threesome (WGIR 610 AM Manchester NH) Message-ID: <20041012001754.31708.qmail@web12504.mail.yahoo.com> The latest batch of new recorded promos plus "live" station ID's are leaving WTSL 1400 Hanover/Lebanon out of the four channel mix. The other NH News Network stations in additional to WGIR 610 Manchester are WGI? Rochester 930 and WGI? 1540 Exeter. WGID, WGIP, something like that. From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Oct 12 09:58:53 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Oct 12 12:39:36 2004 Subject: airing satellite radio in a restaurant Message-ID: <20041012135853.6A19239AA@mprdmxin.myway.com> I don't have Sirius satellite radio personally, but did hear a bit of "Sirius 31", new country, while in a BBQ restaurant in Connecticut yesterday. Sounded similar to many country stations music-wise...just no commercials. The DJ did kind of talk up the fact the Sirius now has Stern; he also mentioned the upcoming presidential debate and said you could hear it on Sirius channels like NPR, Fox News, and Air America. Anyone heard of this before, a restaurant airing Sirius satellite radio? I'm guessing they do have to pay ASCAP/BMI/SESAC (country) royalties somehow in a fee. (They could be airing a local country station, but chose to run satellite radio instead...Speaking of airing radio stations in restaurants or stores, I remember in the 80s when I worked for Building 19-- they used to run WCGY over the sound system and probably had to pay royalties, etc.) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From madprof@ix.netcom.com Mon Oct 11 00:12:22 2004 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Tue Oct 12 12:39:37 2004 Subject: Fw: [NRC-AM] Fw: KKOBAM tower & Smokey Bear balloon Message-ID: <007f01c4af48$8289edc0$fecc9c04@p133> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Durenberger" To: "@NRC DX" ; Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 5:59 PM Subject: [NRC-AM] Fw: KKOBAM tower & Smokey Bear balloon > Presumably the VSWR protection tripped the transmitter, or we might have hear more > about the balloon riders.... > > Mark Durenberger > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary L. Diamond" > > >They've been off the air almost 8 hours now. I think > > that's the longest the station has ever been off the air. > > > Last I heard, the gondola and propane tanks were still dangling from the > > top of the tower. They had two tower crews out there, and plenty of cops > > and PD officers, and they're still trying to clear the stuff from the > > tower. Then, they have to inspect it to make sure it's structurally > > sound. At least when the tower is clear, they'll be able to do low power > > from the west tower ND until they can certify that the tall tower is > > OK. The people in the gondola climbed down the tower, and there were no > > injuries. > > > > gd > > > =============================================== > 25th Edition of the AM Radio Log > ON SALE NOW - ON LINE > http://www.nrcdxas.org/Deals.html > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Oct 12 13:02:53 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Oct 12 13:09:36 2004 Subject: WGI- foursome no more ?? Now a threesome (WGIR 610 AM Manchester NH) References: <20041012001754.31708.qmail@web12504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003c01c4b07d$54bd28e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> WGIN, WGIP I believe -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: John Bolduc To: Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 8:17 PM Subject: WGI- foursome no more ?? Now a threesome (WGIR 610 AM Manchester NH) > The latest batch of new recorded promos plus "live" station ID's are > leaving WTSL 1400 Hanover/Lebanon out of the four channel mix. > > The other NH News Network stations in additional to WGIR 610 Manchester > are WGI? Rochester 930 and WGI? 1540 Exeter. > > WGID, WGIP, something like that. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Oct 9 12:17:29 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Tue Oct 12 13:09:38 2004 Subject: Stern dollars References: <416738BF.9154.50AFC4@localhost> <4167C48C.8020606@shoreham.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20041009073918.01bc7f78@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <003c01c4ae1b$792feaf0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 7:43 AM Subject: Re: Stern dollars > Does anyone really think that satellite radio (or tv for that matter) will > be forever immune to federal regulation/content oversight? Yes, I do. The main legal justifications for regulation of speech on traditional radio and TV do not apply to satellite radio and TV. From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Tue Oct 12 13:29:06 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Tue Oct 12 13:39:36 2004 Subject: Stern dollars Message-ID: <200410121329.AA531694214@mail.ttlc.net> "Daniel Billings" replied: >Yes, I do. The main legal justifications for regulation of speech on >traditional radio and TV do not apply to satellite radio and TV. Yes, but I can forsee the administration claiming that Stern posseses Words of Mass inDecency and poses a clear and immediate threat to the moral fiber of this great country. Not having the patience to wait for a coalition of religious leaders to join us, they will send in the FCC troops to overthrow Howard before he can destroy our youth, free the Sirius people and let the roots of fear, caution and blandness take hold and grow. From sven@gordsven.com Tue Oct 12 13:38:00 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Tue Oct 12 13:39:36 2004 Subject: Howie Carr on the WBUR mess In-Reply-To: <20041012121102.A100612D48@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Bob Nelson wrote: > "In my office, we have a cheap AM radio tuned to the station (WRKO). I > once went into WBUR and they had Bose Wave Radios playing what was on > 'BUR...not music, but news!" Kinda gold-plated overspending at 'BUR, > Howie? :) Maybe WBUR got them as a gift from Bose Corp. -- sort of a tax writeoff on a bunch of surplus unsold radios? Using Boswe Wave Radios as station monitors is a bit of overkill, in my opinion though. -- Steph From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Oct 12 14:34:52 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue Oct 12 14:35:11 2004 Subject: satellite radio in a restaurant In-Reply-To: <20041012140804.7E6443A08@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20041012140804.7E6443A08@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20041012143334.01c58800@mail.mac.com> At 10:08 AM 10/12/2004 -0400, Bob Nelson wrote: >I don't have satellite radio but this is the first time I've heard it and >it's interesting that it's being used as background music >for a restaurant (...as opposed to a local country station-- >desired because there are no ads?) I assume they pay royalties >(as part of a fee) to ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC (country song >licenser). They do specify on their web site that the commercial service is royalty free to the end user. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From mlaurence@mindspring.com Tue Oct 12 14:30:50 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Tue Oct 12 14:56:33 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <200410121329.AA531694214@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200410121329.AA531694214@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: On Oct 12, 2004, at 1:29 PM, rogerkirk wrote: > they will send in the FCC troops to overthrow Howard before he > can destroy our youth Anti-obscenity laws on broadcasters protect children who may be listening. But Sirius requires a credit card to subscribe and specifies in their terms of service that "you must be over 18 to assume the obligations" of subscribing, and "minors may use the service only if a parent or legal guardian assumes full responsibility for minor's use of the service." From madprof@ix.netcom.com Mon Oct 11 00:13:04 2004 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Tue Oct 12 15:39:38 2004 Subject: Fw: [NRC-AM] KKOBAM tower & Smokey Bear balloon Message-ID: <008501c4af48$9bcfa7c0$fecc9c04@p133> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Durenberger" To: "@NRC DX" Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 4:41 PM Subject: [NRC-AM] KKOBAM tower & Smokey Bear balloon > Note: KKOB 770 is or was off the air. > > Photo at http://www.durenberger.com/kkob.jpg > > Good DX-ing! > > Mark Durenberger > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary L. Diamond" > > > > Subject: FWD: KKOBAM tower & Smokey Bear balloon > > > > > > > What happens when a 640' AM tower is hit by the "Smoky the Bear" balloon > > > today.... > > > > > > Yes, it was KOB AM's daytime tower that was hit. They're still off the air... > > > > > > gd > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================== > 25th Edition of the AM Radio Log > ON SALE NOW - ON LINE > http://www.nrcdxas.org/Deals.html > > From markwats@comcast.net Tue Oct 12 16:27:23 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue Oct 12 16:27:38 2004 Subject: Cruisin' Bruce & Big John Gone At B-101 Message-ID: <009901c4b099$e3666540$6f918318@Mark> All Access reporting that WWBB (B-101 Providence) midday host Big John Bina and afternoon drive host Cruisin' Bruce Palmer have "exited" the station, no other details. I believe both John & Bruce have been at B-101 for several years. Bruce hosted their live Saturday night all request show, where he had a "doo-wop" segment as part of that show. Anyone hear more about what happened or if there are more changes on the way? Mark Watson From sid@wrko.com Tue Oct 12 14:51:27 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue Oct 12 16:39:37 2004 Subject: Stern dollars Message-ID: >>Yes, but I can forsee the administration claiming that Stern posseses Words of Mass inDecency and poses a clear and immediate threat to the moral fiber of this great country. Not having the patience to wait for a coalition of religious leaders to join us, they will send in the FCC troops to overthrow Howard before he can destroy our youth, free the Sirius people and let the roots of fear, caution and blandness take hold and grow.<< Only one problem with that scenario. In order to regulate the content of satellite radio, they would also have to regulate the content of cable, pay-cable and satellite TV, which they currently keep their grubby little paws out of. Not to say, of course, that they won't try. In this country, at least, the human endeavor has yet to be invented which the government will not attempt to regulate. And if they succeed in regulating that content, they are setting themselves up for the same problem they have now, in that the rules on indecency are applied arbitrarily and unfairly. Courts don't generally like that. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From madprof@ix.netcom.com Sun Oct 10 23:38:43 2004 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Tue Oct 12 20:18:10 2004 Subject: New Mexico hot-air balloon hung on tower Message-ID: <002101c4af43$cee1f140$fecc9c04@p133> Very curious item on WHDH-TV (Boston) tonight: a New Mexico, hot air balloon race, 1 balloon got hung up on a radio tower! Report says station shut down 50k transmitter while the 3 people climbed down inside the tower. But what station?? Only 1 tower visable in news. Anyone know? the only 2 50k AM?s I know in NM are: KKOB 770 Albuquerque NM 50 50 DAN 2 towers KCKN 1020 Roswell NM 50 50 DA2 6 towers night Madprof / Bob Sutherland From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Oct 12 20:15:47 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Oct 12 20:39:38 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <82710DF3-1C10-11D9-BCE8-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> References: <4165AFAB.2050908@shoreham.net> <4165D875.29948.5F2976@localhost> <41666DA3.3000602@shoreham.net> <521b7fd1041008100922e1712e@mail.gmail.com> <4166D5E2.2070709@shoreham.net> <82710DF3-1C10-11D9-BCE8-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20041012200753.01b6bd88@pop3.bit-net.com> David Tomm "Mike Thomas" wrote: >However, I don't see Stern being the huge draw to satellite radio that >Sirius and the industry are hoping he'll be. Outside of his battles with >terrestrial radio, his show has gotten stale and predictable. Using four >letter words and talking about racier topics won't save it. I've wondered that myself. So much of his schtik is whining about how he's just trying to speak honestly and keeps getting "censored" by the gov't or timid suits. Since presumably there will be no limits on content with Sirius, how will he reinvent himself? I also wonder how many people will sign up with them just to hear their "hero". It's like every time cable tv rates go up, lots of people threaten to pull the plug, but few actually do. From radiotony@comcast.net Tue Oct 12 21:39:41 2004 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Tue Oct 12 22:09:40 2004 Subject: Howie Carr on the WBUR mess References: <20041012121102.A100612D48@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <006a01c4b0c5$831f02b0$6400a8c0@tony> His "friend" Christopher Lydon? Howie Carr hates Lydon. He even used to talk in a Brahmin, uppity voice, making fun of him. When he found out how much Lydon was making during the spat that got him fired, Carr was relentless against him. When Lydon tried to move to commercial radio - and scoffed at the pay - Carr joked, "Welcome to the real world, Chris-tah-fur ..." Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:11 AM Subject: Howie Carr on the WBUR mess > > Howie Carr commented on the WBUR mess on his > Friday show (I taped it because it was up > against the Red Sox game, and heard it > yesterday). He kinda felt good that Jane Christo > was gone because of the tiff between Christo and > Howie's friend Chris Lydon (not sure how close > their friendship is...maybe just a casual > acquantaince?). Howie mentioned the financial > problems WBUR is having (Fybush's North East > Radio Watch mentions that they owe BU $12 > million) and gave this example of perhaps the > overspending that goes on: > > "In my office, we have a cheap AM radio tuned to > the station (WRKO). I once went into WBUR and > they had Bose Wave Radios playing what was on > 'BUR...not music, but news!" Kinda gold-plated > overspending at 'BUR, Howie? :) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - > http://www.myway.com From billo@shoreham.net Tue Oct 12 22:35:46 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue Oct 12 22:57:54 2004 Subject: Howie Cah Message-ID: <416C9482.6000307@shoreham.net> Gotta give credit when it's due. I've been tuning over to Howie Carr on WVMT (620 Burlington) the past few days. Had been awhile. I notice that without "VB" or another voice popping in from control, he's running a tighter show. Getting to calls more efficiently and engaging the callers a bit better. I noticed that he would grab a caller's opener or one-liner, pot down and talk over to the next call. He is letting them come up for air, when warranted. 'Tis the season. You gotta consider that in the run-up to the general election, these are times where talk shows are easier to drive than a tricycle. It's the week or two _after_ the election where the rubber hits the road. Glenn Beck isn't heard in the Boston area. He is on 'GIRs group and here in Burlington as well as WGY. He is one funny guy. Wacky, but balanced with very good execution. Creative production is better than one might expect from a relatively new voice. Moron Trivia is good for a chuckle...except when I'm stumped, too . Just felt like saying something nice about the biz...at least today. Bill O'Neill Shoreham, Vermont From billo@shoreham.net Tue Oct 12 06:43:05 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue Oct 12 22:57:55 2004 Subject: Stern dollars In-Reply-To: <82710DF3-1C10-11D9-BCE8-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> References: <4165AFAB.2050908@shoreham.net> <4165D875.29948.5F2976@localhost> <41666DA3.3000602@shoreham.net> <521b7fd1041008100922e1712e@mail.gmail.com> <4166D5E2.2070709@shoreham.net> <82710DF3-1C10-11D9-BCE8-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> Message-ID: <416BB539.20209@shoreham.net> David Tomm wrote: > Take away the controversies surrounding him and what do you have? A > dirty old man interviewing strippers and c-list celebrities. I agree. One hundred million a year (not all to him) is all part of free enterprise (if Sirius wants to be ridiculous...) Main problem are the stumbling blocks, perceived or real, that Stern has articulated over the years. They have buoyed him through many books, and will be gone once the Sirius show works out the kinks. What Stern have left to complain about? His chair? The satellite owner? Indigestion? Great grandchildren? The noisy teenagers next door blasting that rock and roll? Bill O'Neill Shoreham, VT From dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Tue Oct 12 22:27:15 2004 From: dmoisan@davidmoisan.org (David Moisan) Date: Tue Oct 12 22:58:56 2004 Subject: New Mexico hot-air balloon hung on tower In-Reply-To: <002101c4af43$cee1f140$fecc9c04@p133> References: <002101c4af43$cee1f140$fecc9c04@p133> Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.1.20041012222621.052b92f8@incoming.verizon.net> At 11:38 PM 10/10/2004, you wrote: >Very curious item on WHDH-TV (Boston) tonight: >a New Mexico, hot air balloon race, 1 balloon got hung up on a radio tower! >Report says station shut down 50k transmitter while the 3 people >climbed down inside the tower. According to someone on the AMFMTVDX list, it was KKOB-770's day tower. David Moisan, N1KGH ARES/SKYWARN dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Invisible Disability: http://www.davidmoisan.org/invisible_disability.html ATS-909 FAQ: http://www.davidmoisan.org/radio/sangean/ats909faq.html From Dfaneuf@WBUR.BU.EDU Wed Oct 13 00:08:32 2004 From: Dfaneuf@WBUR.BU.EDU (Dave Faneuf) Date: Wed Oct 13 00:09:39 2004 Subject: Howie Carr on the WBUR mess Message-ID: <416C7200.9942.1790DE@localhost> I just did a walk through of the station to see if Howie's comments about the use of Bose Wave radios was accurate. I found 4 Sony's, 2 Realistics, 1 Jenson, 1 Panasonic, 3 Proton's 2 Kenwoods. All desk top models on newsroom, engineering and marketing desks. But not a single Bose Wave Radio in sight... Guess Howie doesn't know what they look like because golly gee he doesn't make stuff up, right?! dave From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Oct 13 01:14:13 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Oct 13 01:13:19 2004 Subject: satellite radio in a restaurant In-Reply-To: <20041012140804.7E6443A08@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <416C8165.9959.4857FC@localhost> On 12 Oct 2004 at 10:08, Bob Nelson wrote: > I don't have satellite radio but this is the first time I've heard it and > it's interesting that it's being used as background music for a restaurant > (...as opposed to a local country station-- desired because there are no > ads?) I assume they pay royalties (as part of a fee) to ASCAP, BMI, and > SESAC (country song licenser). A couple of months ago I heard a rather good oldies program on the PA at the Brookline Trader Joe's. I asked what station they were listening to, and they told me that it was a satellite channel. I didn't find out whether it was XM or Sirius. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Oct 13 04:28:57 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Oct 13 04:29:05 2004 Subject: Howie Cah Message-ID: <20041013082857.CD5793967@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Gotta give credit when it's due. I've been tuning over to Howie Carr on WVMT (620 Burlington) the past few days. Had been awhile. He got more than a few callers from Montreal (via WVMT or maybe online streaming) today. >>I notice that without "VB" or another voice popping in from control, he's running a tighter show. I don't like it, though, when Sandy is doing police blotter fax Friday and Howie keeps interrupting her to joke..."let her finish", please (especially since they're often pressed for time...) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Oct 13 04:31:29 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Oct 13 04:31:36 2004 Subject: Howie Carr on the WBUR mess Message-ID: <20041013083129.5AE5E397E@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>His "friend" Christopher Lydon? Howie Carr hates Lydon. That's how he referred to him on Friday--talked about how "my friend Chris Lydon was treated" >>He even used to talk in a Brahmin, uppity voice, making fun of him sounded kind of like the Billy Bulger voice he does, which is really channeling Jonathan Harris from "Lost in Space": "Oh the pain, the pain..." Yes, he did lambaste Lydon over the money...just as he raked Limbaugh over the coals re: the "doctor shopping" incident. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Oct 13 04:26:17 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Oct 13 04:39:40 2004 Subject: Howie Carr on the WBUR mess Message-ID: <20041013082617.A5E803958@mprdmxin.myway.com> he said it was awhile ago (he had to do something there, not sure what...unless he thought a diff. brand was a Bose Wave radio? Then again he used to do ads for them so I'm sure he knows what they look like :) >>I just did a walk through of the station to see if Howie's comments about the use of Bose Wave radios was accurate.< _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From radiotony@comcast.net Wed Oct 13 16:19:27 2004 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Wed Oct 13 16:19:33 2004 Subject: Howie Carr on the WBUR mess References: <20041013083129.5AE5E397E@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <004c01c4b161$f1532a80$6400a8c0@tony> Wow, thanks for the info Bob. I've never heard Carr call Lydon a friend. Maybe there is hope for Howie to grow as a person after all! Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 4:31 AM Subject: Re: Howie Carr on the WBUR mess > >>>His "friend" Christopher Lydon? Howie Carr >>>hates Lydon. > > That's how he referred to him on Friday--talked > about how "my > friend Chris Lydon was treated" > >>>He even used to talk in a Brahmin, uppity >>>voice, making fun of him > > sounded kind of like the Billy Bulger voice he > does, which is > really channeling Jonathan Harris from "Lost in > Space": "Oh > the pain, the pain..." > Yes, he did lambaste Lydon over the money...just > as he raked > Limbaugh over the coals re: the "doctor > shopping" incident. > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - > http://www.myway.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Oct 13 18:42:46 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Wed Oct 13 18:42:53 2004 Subject: Howie Carr on the WBUR mess References: <416C7200.9942.1790DE@localhost> Message-ID: <006b01c4b175$f6094870$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> So if they are not spending money on Bose radios where did it all go. The war in Iraq? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From hmadjid@yahoo.com Thu Oct 14 12:36:18 2004 From: hmadjid@yahoo.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Thu Oct 14 12:36:23 2004 Subject: satellite radio in a restaurant Message-ID: <20041014163618.28752.qmail@web80009.mail.yahoo.com> Brian Vita writes: >Both XM and Sirius offer a commercial package for >businesses that carries the appropriate licenses >for "public performance" in venues such as stores, >offices and restaurants. The Brookline (Coolidge Corner) branch of Trader Joe's now appears to be getting their background music from XM. They had the XM 50s nostalgia channel on the other day. Yesterday (Wednesday 10/3/04), they were feeding on their PA the ESPN play-by-play of the Red-Sox / Yankees ALCS game 2, off of XM. In all probability, that probably violates some MLB rule or other, I would think. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From n1qgs@yahoo.com Fri Oct 15 12:48:14 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Fri Oct 15 12:48:20 2004 Subject: Colebrook NH Article on WMUR Ch9 and WMTW Ch8 availability Message-ID: <20041015164814.63076.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> COMPLETE STORIES AT: http://www.colbsent.com/articles.htm WMUR Channel 9 Coming to Satellite Television Subscribers On Tuesday, October 5, the H.R. 4518 Satellite Home Viewer Extension and Reauthorization Act passed unanimously in the House of Representatives, authorizing the previously prohibited WMUR-TV to be viewed by satellite subscribers in Coös, Carroll, Grafton and Sullivan counties.... The addition of WMUR to the stations that satellite subscribers now receive is scheduled to take place by January 1, 2005.... (Issue of October 13, 2004) WMTW Channel 8 Available to Satellite, Cable Customers WMTW-TV is now carried on DISH Network, and the chances for it coming to cable look good.... The WMTW-TV translator on Holden Hill in Stewartstown is simulcasting color test bars on channel 26, ... From mlaurence@mindspring.com Fri Oct 15 14:18:00 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Fri Oct 15 14:18:05 2004 Subject: Colebrook NH Article on WMUR Ch9 and WMTW Ch8 availability In-Reply-To: <20041015164814.63076.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041015164814.63076.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8C443857-1ED6-11D9-AD5F-000393D13824@mindspring.com> On Oct 15, 2004, at 12:48 PM, John Bolduc wrote: > On Tuesday, October 5, the H.R. 4518 Satellite Home Viewer Extension > and > Reauthorization Act passed unanimously in the House of Representatives, > authorizing the previously prohibited WMUR-TV to be viewed by satellite > subscribers in Co?s, Carroll, Grafton and Sullivan counties.... > > The addition of WMUR to the stations that satellite subscribers now > receive is scheduled to take place by January 1, 2005.... That's really weird, because WMUR has been a local to Boston subscribers of DirecTV for at least a couple of years. Mark From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Oct 16 00:19:20 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Oct 16 00:18:18 2004 Subject: Air America in Providence Message-ID: <41706908.2813.8B5A1B@localhost> Al Franken today welcomed 920 in Providence as a new affiliate. I was driving in Brockton this morning and turned to it for awhile. From Brockton the signal was strong. It sounds like the station is doing a variety of talk programming, with only a couple of Air America selections. In Brockton, on my car radio, WXKS 1430 suffered interference from some other station, but WKOX 1200 came in well. 920 from Providence had a good signal driving north until I reached West Roxbury. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Oct 16 01:01:48 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Oct 16 01:28:45 2004 Subject: Air America in Providence References: <41706908.2813.8B5A1B@localhost> Message-ID: <001301c4b340$ff07da00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> 920, a legacy station--used to be WJAR. It has an excellent signal. The half-wave towers (tallest of any Providence AM) are located in a salt marsh south and slightly east of Providence. It's nondirectional days (two towers nights with a side-fire figure-eight pattern beamed north and south) and is a relatively easy catch where I live in Arlington Heights. The closest interfering signals are 910 in New Britain (Hartford) and 930 in Rochester NH. The station that intereferes with WXKS south of Boston is probably the 1420 in (I think) New Bedford. Both stations have strong daytime signals on Cape Cod and there is, I believe, significant normally prohibited overlap between their daytime 0.5 mV/m contours. Whichever station was on the air first must have been asleep at the switch when the other was built or upgraded. However, if you were trying to listen to WXKS in Brockton itself, you were probably getting the 1410 that is licensed to Brockton. The Brockton station is also second adjacent to WPLM (AM), which is not very far from Brockton, albeit directionalized away from Brockton. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: A. Joseph Ross To: Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 12:19 AM Subject: Air America in Providence > Al Franken today welcomed 920 in Providence as a new affiliate. I was driving in Brockton > this morning and turned to it for awhile. From Brockton the signal was strong. It sounds like > the station is doing a variety of talk programming, with only a couple of Air America > selections. > > In Brockton, on my car radio, WXKS 1430 suffered interference from some other station, but > WKOX 1200 came in well. 920 from Providence had a good signal driving north until I > reached West Roxbury. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Oct 16 15:06:50 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Oct 16 15:06:59 2004 Subject: Clarification Message-ID: <20041016190650.5B43C86AEE@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Earlier in the month I posted a notice about the return of "Let's Talk About Radio" based on an item found at radio-info.com's Boston board. It stated correctly that LTAR would be heard in Boston and vicinity on October 3rd on WJIB-AM 740. I also posted that the re-run for Maine would be heard the following Sunday at 9:00 am on WJTO-AM 730. But during the show aired October 3rd, Bob mentioned that the Maine rerun would occur on the THIRD weekend in October, i.e. the 17th. So if you live in Maine or were visting the Pine Tree state last week and LTAR wasn't on, try again the 17th. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Oct 16 16:18:21 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Oct 16 16:19:18 2004 Subject: Is it radio-info.com management or is it phishing? Message-ID: <001001c4b3bd$6763c880$19eefea9@dstrassberg> As many of you know, I am a frequent poster at radio-info.com, as are several other members of this list. This morning, after writing and editing a posting for the Boston board, I clicked on "Continue," expecting to see the final review copy of my posting. Instead, I was presented with a LONG questionnaire in which most questions were preceded by a red "greater-than" symbol, indicating that answers were required. At the top was a statement that my user profile was incomplete and at least a suggestion that radio-info needed more complete info on me if I was to be allowed to continue submitting postings. One of the questions requested my birthdate (month and date only--no year). Even without the year, however, my antennae went up. This is the kind of information that can be (and often is) used in identity theft. So, without clicking on "Submit," I shut down the browser and the PC. This afternoon I returned to radio-info, expecting not to find my latest posting because I had failed to submit the questionnaire. I was surprised to find the posting. So I went to the "Ask Radio-Info" sub-board with the intention of submitting a posting similar to this one asking whether the questionnaire originated with Radio-Info.com management or whether someone with malicious intent had hacked the board and inserted a phishing page for the purpose of gathering users' personal information. This time, after entering my posting and clicking on "continue," I was greeted with a 404--Not Found page, after which I could no longer find the posting I had just finished writing. In my posting, I had suggested that, if the site managwement was indeed responsible for the questionnaire, they should review the questions to see whether all of them are really necessary and that, if indeed, the site management is intent on gathering more complete information on users, they should post a notice where all users of the site are likely to see it warning that posters can expect to have to fill out this questionnaire. After this morning's experience, I looked around the site for such a notice and could not find one. In today's Web environment, users have every reason to be suspicious. Sites that ask too many questions will turn away their users and find themselves with no reason for existence. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Oct 17 07:52:34 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Oct 17 07:53:33 2004 Subject: How many on this list knew THIS? Message-ID: <000c01c4b43f$ea3ca9c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> A friend sent this to me. There are lots of stories about lots of high-power AM rigs, and broadcast engineers seem to love to tell and retell those stories. He's such a story. I had never heard it before despite its VERY local twist. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ------ From: "Grady Moates" To: Subject: Re: [RT] RE: MW 50A F.S. eBay WABC 770 (Bobby Gray) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 23:23:01 -0400 Reply-To: radio-tech@broadcast.net We have the MW-50 that WRKO-AM was playing top-40 through back in the early '70's at WBIX, Business1060. It's still got their inventory tag on it, too. It's got some of the upgrades in it, but it's still running a tube for a snubber. . . The move from 680 to 1060 was non-trivial, but straight-forward enough that I could do it (c: But (get this) the RF PA we are using is the same one that was in it when it left the RKO site in the latter half of the '90's! Good thing I don't need more than 40 kW out of her, and she gets to relax every night! Grady Grady Moates Owner, LOUD & Clean Broadcast Science From kingpin@globalcrossing.net Sat Oct 16 08:47:10 2004 From: kingpin@globalcrossing.net (Michael J.King Sr.) Date: Sun Oct 17 11:39:12 2004 Subject: Air America in Providence In-Reply-To: <001301c4b340$ff07da00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <41706908.2813.8B5A1B@localhost> <001301c4b340$ff07da00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.0.20041016054423.01c16c88@127.0.0.1> At 10:01 PM 10/15/2004, Dan Strassberg wrote: >The station that intereferes with WXKS south of Boston is probably the 1420 >in (I think) New Bedford. That would be WBSM 1420. It is indeed located in New Bedford on Popes Island. Just FYI Later.Mike From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Oct 17 13:10:58 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Oct 17 13:11:06 2004 Subject: Clarification Message-ID: <20041017171058.400E5CA098@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Laurence Glavin" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Clarification >Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:06:50 -0500 > > Earlier in the month I posted a notice about the return of > "Let's Talk About Radio" based on an item found at radio-info.com's > Boston board. It stated correctly that LTAR would be heard > in Boston and vicinity on October 3rd on WJIB-AM 740. > I also posted that the re-run for Maine would be heard the > following Sunday at 9:00 am on WJTO-AM 730. But during the > show aired October 3rd, Bob mentioned that the Maine rerun > would occur on the THIRD weekend in October, i.e. the 17th. > So if you live in Maine or were visting the Pine Tree state > last week and LTAR wasn't on, try again the 17th. Yikes...too late! Now I understand that LTAR in Maine ran this morning at 7:00 am thru 8:30 because it was 90 minutes in length (a period of time that flew by quickly because there was so much content). In November, Bob says the original plan of first airing in Cambridge on the first Sunday of the month with Maine repeat airing on the third Sunday will take effect! I'll stake my reputation on it (I have nothing to lose). -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Oct 17 13:16:27 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Oct 17 13:16:37 2004 Subject: Is it radio-info.com management or is it phishing? Message-ID: <20041017171627.D983BCA098@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Dan Strassberg" >To: >Subject: Is it radio-info.com management or is it phishing? > As many of you know, I am a frequent poster at radio-info.com, as are > several other members of this list. This morning, after writing and editing > a posting for the Boston board, I clicked on "Continue," expecting to see > the final review copy of my posting. Instead, I was presented with a LONG > questionnaire in which most questions were preceded by a red "greater-than" > symbol, indicating that answers were required. At the top was a statement > that my user profile was incomplete and at least a suggestion that > radio-info needed more complete info on me if I was to be allowed to > continue submitting postings. One of the questions requested my birthdate > (month and date only--no year). Even without the year, however, my antennae > went up. This is the kind of information that can be (and often is) used in > identity theft. So, without clicking on "Submit," I shut down the browser > and the PC. > > This afternoon I returned to radio-info, expecting not to find my latest > posting because I had failed to submit the questionnaire. I was surprised to > find the posting. So I went to the "Ask Radio-Info" sub-board with the > intention of submitting a posting similar to this one asking whether the > questionnaire originated with Radio-Info.com management or whether someone > with malicious intent had hacked the board and inserted a phishing page for > the purpose of gathering users' personal information. This time, after > entering my posting and clicking on "continue," I was greeted with a > 404--Not Found page, after which I could no longer find the posting I had > just finished writing. > > In my posting, I had suggested that, if the site managwement was indeed > responsible for the questionnaire, they should review the questions to see > whether all of them are really necessary and that, if indeed, the site > management is intent on gathering more complete information on users, they > should post a notice where all users of the site are likely to see it > warning that posters can expect to have to fill out this questionnaire. > After this morning's experience, I looked around the site for such a notice > and could not find one. In today's Web environment, users have every reason > to be suspicious. Sites that ask too many questions will turn away their > users and find themselves with no reason for existence. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > Some time ago, I willingly entered such information to such newspapers as the New York Times, Washington Post and Dallas News (the latter to follow the attempt to force the City of Dallas to sell classical WRR-FM); now whenever I click through on a link to a newspaper that then requires registration, I say ENOUGH because nowadays one never knows who gets this information and what they do with it. The next time something from radio-info.com instigates a reply by me, I'll check to see if this happens, and then if it does, I'll do what you attempted to do. Laurence Glavin -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From steveord@bit-net.com Sun Oct 17 15:35:59 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Oct 17 15:35:59 2004 Subject: Is it radio-info.com management or is it phishing? In-Reply-To: <20041017171627.D983BCA098@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20041017171627.D983BCA098@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20041017153351.01bffec0@pop3.bit-net.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: >now whenever I click through on a link to a newspaper that >then requires registration, I say ENOUGH because nowadays >one never knows who gets this information and >what they do with it. The next time something >from radio-info.com instigates a reply by me, >I'll check to see if this happens, and then if it >does, I'll do what you attempted to do. I suppose you could put in erroneous information. Most posters there use some sort of "handle" anyway. From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Oct 17 15:51:56 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Oct 17 15:53:07 2004 Subject: Is it radio-info.com management or is it phishing? Message-ID: <20041017195156.F34E3C6134@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: SteveOrdinetz To: boston-radio-interest@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: Is it radio-info.com management or is it phishing? Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:35:59 -0400 > > Laurence Glavin wrote: > > >now whenever I click through on a link to a newspaper that > >then requires registration, I say ENOUGH because nowadays > >one never knows who gets this information and > >what they do with it. The next time something > >from radio-info.com instigates a reply by me, > >I'll check to see if this happens, and then if it > >does, I'll do what you attempted to do. > > I suppose you could put in erroneous information. Most posters there use > some sort of "handle" anyway. > > Since the original posting, I tried logging on to radio-info.com, and the aforementioned "profile screen" came up. Most of the items marked in red as must-answer were not controversial, so I guess I'm legal now. I used to use handles, just for fun; "moreparksauagesmomplease'; "finley qualitynetwork" "walleecoisawonderfulcandybar", but now I use my singular name. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From kingpin@globalcrossing.net Sun Oct 17 16:22:09 2004 From: kingpin@globalcrossing.net (Michael J.King Sr.) Date: Sun Oct 17 16:22:51 2004 Subject: Is it radio-info.com management or is it phishing? In-Reply-To: <20041017195156.F34E3C6134@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20041017195156.F34E3C6134@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.0.20041017131628.01c37538@127.0.0.1> At 12:51 PM 10/17/2004, Laurence Glavin wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: SteveOrdinetz >To: boston-radio-interest@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu >Subject: Re: Is it radio-info.com management or is it phishing? >Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:35:59 -0400 > > > > > Laurence Glavin wrote: > > > > >now whenever I click through on a link to a newspaper that > > >then requires registration, I say ENOUGH because nowadays > > >one never knows who gets this information and > > >what they do with it. The next time something > > >from radio-info.com instigates a reply by me, > > >I'll check to see if this happens, and then if it > > >does, I'll do what you attempted to do. > > > > I suppose you could put in erroneous information. Most posters there use > > some sort of "handle" anyway If you want to bypass the log in process use this site: http://www.bugmenot.com/ very effective. Later.Mike From stevewest106@hotmail.com Sun Oct 17 17:10:10 2004 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Sun Oct 17 17:11:11 2004 Subject: Is it radio-info.com management or is it phishing? Message-ID: Hi gang, I'm going to simply reply to this assuming you guys have read the original post. As most of you may know, I have been closely associated with radio-info.com for a couple of years. Well, with the sale of RI to Zeos, my airchexx.com website had to move. Now, strangely enough, while I'm still a moderator of a few boards including the Boston board, when I post about airchexx, they remove it. I am not entirely sure what's going on, but I do know they are changing things around. Perhaps they don't have the script setup correctly. Steve From sgitschier@cfl.rr.com Sun Oct 17 20:31:17 2004 From: sgitschier@cfl.rr.com (Email) Date: Sun Oct 17 20:31:24 2004 Subject: "JC Golden Oldies" Returns To The Airwaves.... References: <200408191157.AA22478920@miscon.net> <007101c48646$e168a1e0$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <01a601c4b4a9$c8bbcc80$66e5ca44@gitscher> They seem to be the same turntables in the WIRY website that WLLH 1400 used at 4 Broadway when I worked there in 1978. JC would not only stand up doing the show, but he'd maintain about 2.5+ feel from the mic. He used to ask the station engineer for help maintaining his Mobile DJ equipment. He was a sight to see in the studio, indeed. Ron Gitschier WNNR/WVOJ Jacksonville, FL ----- Original Message ----- > Mission Control wrote: > > I had the pleasure to watch Jimmy do his weekly show at the WLLH studios (on Broadway) back in the mid 80's. I (often along with Dan Nelson) would > watch him from the production studio as he would Disk Jockey: actually flipping his 45's onto the turntables (the big 16" transcription type - they might have been Gates), cue them up, chat (well, it was kind of a "controlled rant," if you know what I mean), and then hit the post as the > record spun. (Those records had some SEVERE cue-burn on them as I recall!) > > I recall the first time I saw JC at work in the plush WLLH 4 Broadway studios, was on a Saturday night in April or May 1978, as I was helping then night jock Michael B. (now Michael Burns of WMJX and WKLB) with a Lowell High School dance, he had permission to use the WLLH van to take to the dance. He brought me in to see JC at work, he was still tossing those 45's > like frisbees then too!! Always did his shows standing up, never sat down until the show was over. I believe they had those 16 inch Gates turntables until they left 4 Broadway in 1986 for 44 Church St. ( Note:WIRY in > Plattsburgh NY still has a pair in use in their on-air studio. Check out the pics of their studios and transmitters too on their website www.wiry.com) > From billo@shoreham.net Sun Oct 17 21:22:57 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Oct 17 21:23:19 2004 Subject: "JC Golden Oldies" Returns To The Airwaves.... In-Reply-To: <01a601c4b4a9$c8bbcc80$66e5ca44@gitscher> References: <200408191157.AA22478920@miscon.net> <007101c48646$e168a1e0$6f918318@Mark> <01a601c4b4a9$c8bbcc80$66e5ca44@gitscher> Message-ID: <41731AF1.3090507@shoreham.net> Ron wrote: >They seem to be the same turntables in the WIRY website that WLLH 1400 used >at 4 Broadway when I worked there in 1978. > >JC would not only stand up doing the show, but he'd maintain about 2.5+ >feel from the mic. > > > And Jimmy ("JC") Camilli was also known to floor his mic pot and trainwreck his VU meters. I can't imagine the DAP or, whatever it was at the time, could do much with that. Gotta wonder how old that gent is. He seemed quite vintage even 20 years ago when I last witnessed his studio stylings at the Giant Store/4 B'way. Bill O'Neill From sgitschier@cfl.rr.com Sun Oct 17 22:04:44 2004 From: sgitschier@cfl.rr.com (Email) Date: Sun Oct 17 22:04:46 2004 Subject: "JC Golden Oldies" Returns To The Airwaves.... References: <200408191157.AA22478920@miscon.net> <007101c48646$e168a1e0$6f918318@Mark> <01a601c4b4a9$c8bbcc80$66e5ca44@gitscher> <41731AF1.3090507@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <000901c4b4b6$d67fbe00$66e5ca44@gitscher> I'll hazard a guess at say, 78 years old. Ron Gitschier (once a lowly log clerk / engineer tweaker holder / fly-on-the-wall at WLLH summer of 1978) USN Active for only about 40 more days. Palm Coast / Jacksonville, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" Subject: Re: "JC Golden Oldies" Returns To The Airwaves.... > Ron wrote: > > >They seem to be the same turntables in the WIRY website that WLLH 1400 used at 4 Broadway when I worked there in 1978. > > > >JC would not only stand up doing the show, but he'd maintain about 2.5+ feet from the mic. Bill O' adds: > And Jimmy ("JC") Camilli was also known to floor his mic pot and trainwreck his VU meters. I can't imagine the DAP or, whatever it was at the time, could do much with that. Gotta wonder how old that gent is. He seemed quite vintage even 20 years ago when I last witnessed his studio stylings at the Giant Store/4 B'way. Bill O'Neill From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sun Oct 17 23:03:46 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sun Oct 17 23:03:50 2004 Subject: WGIR up to old tricks with Red Sox Message-ID: <20041018030346.51150.qmail@web12504.mail.yahoo.com> Three times this evening at the top of the hour 9PM, 10PM and 11PM, the Red Sox game on WGIR 610 AM Manchester NH has been interupted by network news, either USA Radio Network or CNN. Some interuptions less than a minute, one five minutes long! Last night during the game, we started to get Manchester Monarchs Hockey wrap up. Their game was on their "sister" station WGIR-FM while the Red Sox were on AM. John B Derry NH From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Oct 18 00:12:25 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Oct 18 00:11:02 2004 Subject: Is it radio-info.com management or is it phishing? In-Reply-To: <20041017171627.D983BCA098@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <41730A69.24731.92ACDC@localhost> On 17 Oct 2004 at 12:16, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Some time ago, I willingly entered such information to > such newspapers as the New York Times, Washington Post > and Dallas News (the latter to follow the attempt to > force the City of Dallas to sell classical WRR-FM); > now whenever I click through on a link to a newspaper that > then requires registration, I say ENOUGH because nowadays > one never knows who gets this information and > what they do with it. The next time something > from radio-info.com instigates a reply by me, > I'll check to see if this happens, and then if it > does, I'll do what you attempted to do. I've been asked for information on occasion by sites. I generally enter fictitious information. Most computer systems accept a date of birth in 2004, an e-mail address of nospam@nospam.com, and a zip code of 00000 without complaining. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Mon Oct 18 00:18:29 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Mon Oct 18 00:18:37 2004 Subject: Clueless people Message-ID: <20041018041829.54598.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> Here's a random radio-related event that happened to me this past weekend. I went up to SUNY Plattsburgh for alumni weekend, and last night my girlfriend and I were visiting a friend of hers that lives on campus. One of her floormates is dating one of the jocks at WIRY(AM). I met him, and we got to talk briefly. Now mind you, he is pursuing a degree in Mass Comm at Plattsburgh, and from the sounds of it he's an upperclassman. He was saying that working at WIRY is cool, but he's thinking about moving up to a bigger market. I agreed that was a good idea for anyone that wants to make their way in radio. I then told him my story of being turned down for a job at WIRY my final year at Plattsburgh (they hired 2 new people the week before I submitted my tape and resume), but how I managed to take those lemons and turn them into some really good lemonade by moving to Rochester NY (market #54 but dropping fast) and getting a job at WBEE-FM (the top rated country station) and WBBF (its sister oldies station). He then tells me "oh thats not that big! Market #54 thats pretty small. I'm gonna go up to a big market, like Burlington VT!" I could not believe my ears!! A mass comm upperclassman, who thinks Burlington VT is a big market but Rochester NY is not, even though Rochester's ADI has about 3 times as many people. I guess some people just don't get it. Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com From stevewest106@hotmail.com Mon Oct 18 05:19:28 2004 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Mon Oct 18 05:20:18 2004 Subject: Clueless people Message-ID: He then tells me "oh thats not that >big! Market #54 thats pretty small. I'm gonna go up >to a big market, like Burlington VT!" I could not >believe my ears!! A mass comm upperclassman, who >thinks Burlington VT is a big market but Rochester NY >is not, even though Rochester's ADI has about 3 times >as many people. > I guess some people just don't get it. > I gotta chuckle over this one. What I don't 'get' is why anyone would pay for an education to get into an industry that will only return minimum wages, at least for the first few years. I'd tell both of you to steer clear and go find a job that pays!!! I love radio, mind you, but this ain't the same radio biz I got into in 1980. From fox893@yahoo.com Mon Oct 18 06:18:48 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Mon Oct 18 06:18:57 2004 Subject: Clueless people In-Reply-To: <20041018041829.54598.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20041018101849.80079.qmail@web61109.mail.yahoo.com> It could be that he has no idea about market sizes... or at least not the market size of Burlington. He could be going by the way the area looks alone. for example, I have worked in the Burlington Market and, thanks to the wonderful people at rronline.com, I know that it is a larger market than Portland Maine. However, if I was going by looks alone, I would assume that Portland was the larger market. It seems more citified to me. > oldies station). He then tells me "oh thats not > that > big! Market #54 thats pretty small. I'm gonna go > up > to a big market, like Burlington VT!" I could not > believe my ears!! A mass comm upperclassman, who > thinks Burlington VT is a big market but Rochester > NY > is not, even though Rochester's ADI has about 3 > times > as many people. From billo@shoreham.net Mon Oct 18 06:53:06 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Oct 18 06:53:21 2004 Subject: Clueless people In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4173A092.1060407@shoreham.net> Steve West wrote: > > I gotta chuckle over this one. What I don't 'get' is why anyone would > pay for an education to get into an industry that will only return > minimum wages, at least for the first few years. I'd tell both of you > to steer clear and go find a job that pays!!! > > I love radio, mind you, but this ain't the same radio biz I got into > in 1980. The new generation of radio people will have the same lack of perspective that we had, in 1980, about radio in the late 50s. I agree that a job that pays is a good thing, but, if someone is ever going to get that great ride on the radio wheel, then it had better be on the front-end of their career when money is less important. Bill O'Neill From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Oct 18 08:35:21 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon Oct 18 08:36:10 2004 Subject: Clueless people References: <20041018041829.54598.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002c01c4b50f$08c6ce00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Could he, maybe, be including metro Montreal as part of Burlington? I think the reverse is sometimes done. If you count the entire population of greater Montreal (both Francophone and Anglophone) as part of the Burlington market, Burlington suddenly becomes quite large, perhaps even making it into the US top 15. Never mind that few Burlington AM or FM signals (maybe 92.9, which I believe is a Class C atop Mt Mansfield) have any reach into Montreal, although I believe the Channel 3 TV station (WCAX?) IS seen in Montreal. Then, too, he might have been kidding. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Osborne To: Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 12:18 AM Subject: Clueless people > moving to Rochester NY (market > #54 but dropping fast) and getting a job at WBEE-FM > (the top rated country station) and WBBF (its sister > oldies station). He then tells me "oh thats not that > big! Market #54 thats pretty small. I'm gonna go up > to a big market, like Burlington VT!" From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Mon Oct 18 13:18:08 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Mon Oct 18 13:18:30 2004 Subject: Clueless people References: <20041018041829.54598.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> <002c01c4b50f$08c6ce00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <028d01c4b536$7c43dc20$1404fea9@xyz> > > moving to Rochester NY (market > > #54 but dropping fast) and getting a job at WBEE-FM > > (the top rated country station) and WBBF (its sister > > oldies station). He then tells me "oh thats not that > > big! Market #54 thats pretty small. I'm gonna go up > > to a big market, like Burlington VT!" Some markets are treated like *bigger* markets than the market rank indicates. Some are treated much *smaller* than the market # indicates. 'Raleigh'...even though it ranks higher, is treated like a smaller market than say "Hartford' even though it ranks higher. Some markets (like Middlesex-Union-Somerset #37), because they are overshadowed by larger markets (NYC #1), are always considered the 'ugly little sister', no matter what it's rank size, because good talent always leaves to go to the larger market...and listeners in the area can pick up the larger market stations. Sometimes it depends on if the market is stand alone, has decent competition, good talent, pay scales, TV outlets and a reasonably good local paper. Markets like that are treated more seriously than markets like Worcester(#113) (basically 2 FM stations...and a lot of little stations that are not even competitive.) Whereas, Portland Maine...a smaller rank...is in the largest city in Maine, has a competitive radio situation, TV stations, reasonably good newspaper, etc....and appears to be taken more seriously by radio folk, advertisers and the listeners. Your numbers may vary. From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Oct 18 13:23:24 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Oct 18 13:23:27 2004 Subject: Clueless people In-Reply-To: <028d01c4b536$7c43dc20$1404fea9@xyz> References: <20041018041829.54598.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> <002c01c4b50f$08c6ce00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <028d01c4b536$7c43dc20$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <200410181723.i9IHNOlZ091593@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Whereas, Portland Maine...a smaller rank...is in the largest city in Maine, > has a competitive radio situation, TV stations, reasonably good newspaper, > etc....and appears to be taken more seriously by radio folk, advertisers and > the listeners. And, though not many people realize this, with the last census Burlington/Plattsburgh made it into the top 100, so consultants, media buyers, and group owners pay more attention to it now. (This is not including anything from Montreal; only the three full-class-C stations, 92.9, 99.9. and 107.9 have any pull there. TV used to be another story.) -GAWollman From billo@shoreham.net Mon Oct 18 15:32:03 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Oct 18 15:32:10 2004 Subject: Clueless people In-Reply-To: <028d01c4b536$7c43dc20$1404fea9@xyz> References: <20041018041829.54598.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> <002c01c4b50f$08c6ce00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <028d01c4b536$7c43dc20$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <41741A33.6080402@shoreham.net> Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > >Your numbers may vary. > > Use only as directed. Not available in New Jersey. Alaska and Hawaii extra. Call for details. Bill O'Neill From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Oct 18 16:20:14 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Oct 18 16:20:27 2004 Subject: Clueless people Message-ID: <200410181620.AA297926792@mail.ttlc.net> >Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >>Your numbers may vary. >> "Bill O'Neill" replied: >Use only as directed. Not available in New Jersey. Alaska and Hawaii >extra. Call for details. Do not fold, spindle, staple or mutilate. Protect from freezing. Some assembly required. Mis-use liable to Federal prosecution. Batman & Robin sold separately. Do not attempt at home. From gary@garysicecream.com Mon Oct 18 16:28:44 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Mon Oct 18 16:28:59 2004 Subject: Clueless people References: <200410181620.AA297926792@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <02e301c4b551$10f29bd0$6500a8c0@office> Or the ultimate disclaimer: Suitable for adults and children only. Approved for veterans and vegetarians. Not tested on animals. May be too intense for some viewers. Not suitable for religious fanatics. Edited for Internet. Sanitized for your protection. Prerecorded for this time zone. All actors in these photographs are portrayed by real people. All models under 80 years of age. Any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental. Not the Beatles. This is not an offer to sell securities. At participating locations only. Void where prohibited. No user serviceable parts inside. Contains a substantial amount of non-tobacco ingredients. Some equipment shown is optional. Batteries not included. Some assembly required. Objects on screen may be closer than they appear. Be sure each item is properly endorsed. Contents may settle during shipment. No other warranty expressed or implied. Slippery when wet. Slightly wetter west of the Mississippi. Times approximate. Simulated picture. Baths for two or more. One size fits all. Colors may fade. Shading within a garment may occur. Use only in a well ventilated area. Keep away from fire or flames. Keep cool, process promptly. No alcohol, dogs or horses. No anchovies unless otherwise specified. Restaurant package, not for resale. Do not disturb. Use only as directed. Apply only to affected area. Avoid contact with skin. First pull up, then pull down. Call toll free number before pumping. Please remain seated until the ride has come to a complete stop. Your mileage may vary. Do not use while operating a motor vehicle or heavy equipment. Substantial penalty for early withdrawal. If condition persists, consult your physician. Not affiliated with the American Red Cross. No solicitors. Lost ticket pays maximum rate. Not responsible for direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages resulting from any defect, error or failure to perform. Employees and their families are not eligible. Limited time offer, call now to ensure prompt delivery. You must be present to win. No purchase necessary. Some of the trademarks mentioned in this product appear for identification purposes only. This disclaimer supersedes all previous notices. Subject to change without notice. Applicable to US citizens only. From francini@mac.com Mon Oct 18 16:30:29 2004 From: francini@mac.com (francini@mac.com) Date: Mon Oct 18 16:30:37 2004 Subject: Clueless people In-Reply-To: <200410181620.AA297926792@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200410181620.AA297926792@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <8D27AF54-2144-11D9-82C2-000A95A0515A@mac.com> Batteries not included. TV picture simulated. It is a Federal crime to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. Void where prohibited. j On Oct 18, 2004, at 4:20 PM, rogerkirk wrote: >> Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >>> Your numbers may vary. >>> > "Bill O'Neill" replied: > >> Use only as directed. Not available in New Jersey. Alaska and Hawaii >> extra. Call for details. > > Do not fold, spindle, staple or mutilate. Protect from freezing. > Some assembly required. Mis-use liable to Federal prosecution. > Batman & Robin sold separately. Do not attempt at home. > From billo@shoreham.net Mon Oct 18 17:23:32 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Oct 18 17:23:51 2004 Subject: Clueless people In-Reply-To: <200410181620.AA297926792@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200410181620.AA297926792@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <41743454.2000909@shoreham.net> >>Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >> >> >>>Your numbers may vary. >>> >>> >>> >"Bill O'Neill" replied: > > > >>Use only as directed. Not available in New Jersey. Alaska and Hawaii >>extra. Call for details. >> >> Roger chimed: >Do not fold, spindle, staple or mutilate. Protect from freezing. >Some assembly required. Mis-use liable to Federal prosecution. >Batman & Robin sold separately. Do not attempt at home. > > (Symptoms) lasting longer than four hours, though rare, may require immediate medical attention. Read package insert carefully. Buy two and mount one in your car. Okay, I sense a frivolity alarm. I'm going to go tear the tags off of the pillows and mattresses and see w'happens. Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Oct 18 18:27:51 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Mon Oct 18 18:27:57 2004 Subject: Clueless people References: <200410181620.AA297926792@mail.ttlc.net> <02e301c4b551$10f29bd0$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: <00cb01c4b561$b446cad0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> The six hour erection disclaimer is the ultimate disclaimer in my book. From sid@wrko.com Mon Oct 18 19:46:38 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon Oct 18 20:27:57 2004 Subject: Clueless people Message-ID: >>Void where prohibited.<< I tried that once and got arrested... Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Oct 19 02:28:06 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Oct 19 02:27:09 2004 Subject: Clueless people In-Reply-To: <8D27AF54-2144-11D9-82C2-000A95A0515A@mac.com> References: <200410181620.AA297926792@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <41747BB6.9908.D793CF@localhost> On 18 Oct 2004 at 16:30, francini@mac.com wrote: > Batteries not included. TV picture simulated. It is a Federal crime to use > this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. Void where > prohibited. This reminds me of a special sometime around 1989 celebrating the 50th anniversary of Superman. It was in the form of a television documentary, assuming Superman was real. One segment showed the "Lead-Lined Shop" in Metropolis, a store where various items could be purchased with lead linings, making them opaque to Superman's X-ray vision. In the store was a disclaimer sign: "It is illegal to use any of these items for crime." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Oct 19 07:40:57 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Oct 19 07:53:55 2004 Subject: Clueless people References: Message-ID: <001601c4b5d2$4bff5200$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Twenty of thirty years ago, David L Kaye used to offer "Void where prohibited" bumper stickers on his humor show, WCRB Saturday Nights. You can probably imagine where I saw the first of them plastered on a wall, rather than on a bumper. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Sid Schweiger To: Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:46 PM Subject: Re: Clueless people > >>Void where prohibited.<< > > I tried that once and got arrested... > > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC > WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > Boston MA 02135-2040 > From gary@garysicecream.com Tue Oct 19 21:24:48 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Tue Oct 19 21:25:07 2004 Subject: Go Go Red Sox jingle Message-ID: <064501c4b643$9a759e00$6500a8c0@office> Does anyone have a copy of the Red Sox Jingle that went: "Go..Go..Red Sox...We're all here to lend you a hand......Go, Go, Red Sox, The Best dog-on team in the land..." It was played by WBZ and many other stations in the late 70's and was recorded, I am told, at Fleetwood in Revere. If you have a copy in mp3 or wav could you e-mail it to me privately. Gary Francis WCAP Music & Memories Overnight Midnite - 5am, Every Nite Music of the 30's - the 80's From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue Oct 19 22:09:39 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Tue Oct 19 22:11:21 2004 Subject: Go Go Red Sox jingle In-Reply-To: <064501c4b643$9a759e00$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: <000001c4b649$dcc851c0$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Gary, do a web search (or MP3 search) for "Blasted In The Bleachers" iirc, that's song's title. Chuck Igo -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of gic Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:25 PM To: Boston radio e-mail list Subject: Go Go Red Sox jingle Does anyone have a copy of the Red Sox Jingle that went: "Go..Go..Red Sox...We're all here to lend you a hand......Go, Go, Red Sox, The Best dog-on team in the land..." It was played by WBZ and many other stations in the late 70's and was recorded, I am told, at Fleetwood in Revere. If you have a copy in mp3 or wav could you e-mail it to me privately. Gary Francis WCAP Music & Memories Overnight Midnite - 5am, Every Nite Music of the 30's - the 80's From news@southstation.org Tue Oct 19 22:21:06 2004 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Tue Oct 19 22:21:19 2004 Subject: Clueless people In-Reply-To: <001601c4b5d2$4bff5200$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <20041020022109.IYIV16785.lakermmtao09.cox.net@main> Wasn't that Richard L. Kaye? -Larry Lovering -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan Strassberg Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:41 AM To: Sid Schweiger; Boston Radio Interest Subject: Re: Clueless people Twenty of thirty years ago, David L Kaye used to offer "Void where prohibited" bumper stickers on his humor show, WCRB Saturday Nights. You can probably imagine where I saw the first of them plastered on a wall, rather than on a bumper. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Sid Schweiger To: Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:46 PM Subject: Re: Clueless people > >>Void where prohibited.<< > > I tried that once and got arrested... > > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC > WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > Boston MA 02135-2040 > From DonKelley@aol.com Tue Oct 19 22:38:44 2004 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Tue Oct 19 22:57:47 2004 Subject: Go Go Red Sox jingle Message-ID: <3AB84540.5374662A.0238A7FB@aol.com> I have a copy. It's called "The Red Sox Song (A Day at the Ballpark") by Pinetree John and the Designated Hitters. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Oct 20 02:12:59 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Oct 20 02:11:44 2004 Subject: Clueless people In-Reply-To: <001601c4b5d2$4bff5200$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <4175C9AB.18030.A1D629@localhost> On 19 Oct 2004 at 7:40, Dan Strassberg wrote: > Twenty of thirty years ago, David L Kaye used to offer "Void where > prohibited" bumper stickers on his humor show, WCRB Saturday Nights. You > can probably imagine where I saw the first of them plastered on a wall, > rather than on a bumper. They had a number of humorous bumper stickers back then, in the late 1960s. I remember one which read, "Elect 'Wolfie' Mozart." I think I may actually have some of them somewhere. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From hmglaz@webtv.net Wed Oct 20 02:48:17 2004 From: hmglaz@webtv.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Wed Oct 20 02:48:26 2004 Subject: XM to announce Major League Baseball deal Message-ID: <10106-41760A31-6130@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net> Yahoo News, PR Newswire and several other sources are reporting that Major League Baseball and XM Satellite Radio have agreed on an 11-year, $650 million deal. Initial reports had the contract starting in 2006, but more recent articles have it starting next season. A news conference is scheduled for later this morning. I wonder if all flagship stations will have to provide their feeds to this new service. I'm thinking, of course, of the Sox' WEEI, which has aired owner Entercom's pseudo-man-on-the-street anti-satellite radio ad many times. Viacom refused to supply WBCN and WFAN feeds to NFL.com for Webcasting. Will similar resistance be encountered -- or permitted -- on satellite radio? Howard From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Oct 20 06:59:28 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Oct 20 07:00:24 2004 Subject: Clueless people References: <20041020022109.IYIV16785.lakermmtao09.cox.net@main> Message-ID: <000c01c4b693$ff94b500$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Yes. I believe that you are correct. Sorry. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Lovering To: 'Dan Strassberg' ; 'Sid Schweiger' ; 'Boston Radio Interest' Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:21 PM Subject: RE: Clueless people > Wasn't that Richard L. Kaye? > > -Larry Lovering > > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Dan Strassberg > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:41 AM > To: Sid Schweiger; Boston Radio Interest > Subject: Re: Clueless people > > Twenty of thirty years ago, David L Kaye used to offer "Void where > prohibited" bumper stickers on his humor show, WCRB Saturday Nights. You can > probably imagine where I saw the first of them plastered on a wall, rather > than on a bumper. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sid Schweiger > To: > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:46 PM > Subject: Re: Clueless people > > > > >>Void where prohibited.<< > > > > I tried that once and got arrested... > > > > Sid Schweiger > > IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC > > WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI > > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > > Boston MA 02135-2040 > > > > > From fox893@yahoo.com Thu Oct 21 11:03:25 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Thu Oct 21 11:03:34 2004 Subject: Sox... Message-ID: <20041021150325.9858.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> So, first let me say.. GO SOX! Second, there were some very unhappy adelphia customers here in the Mount Washington Valley. Because of a required monthly test, an EAS message blocked out the last out of the game last night. They went to the test during a pitching change, but it took several minutes to come back to the game after the test was over. Did this happen anywhere else? Where are the EAS tests controlled from? Local head ends, or are they all done from some kind of Adelphia Master Control? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From billo@shoreham.net Thu Oct 21 15:04:16 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Oct 21 15:04:21 2004 Subject: Sox... In-Reply-To: <20041021150325.9858.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041021150325.9858.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41780830.9040903@shoreham.net> Cooper Fox wrote: >So, first let me say.. GO SOX! > >Second, there were some very unhappy adelphia >customers here in the Mount Washington Valley. >Because of a required monthly test, an EAS message >blocked out the last out of the game last night. > How do you spell "i-d-i-o-t-s"? I'd be fuming. Happy birthday, Mickey Mantle. Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Oct 21 19:10:18 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Thu Oct 21 19:10:23 2004 Subject: #1 Arbitron rated Message-ID: <007901c4b7c3$21f69390$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Frank is running bumpers that say "#1 Arbitron rated for Classic Hits in Portland." Doesn't Arbitron have rules against mentioning ratings during a ratings period? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Oct 21 19:18:51 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Thu Oct 21 19:18:54 2004 Subject: Jock turned Politician Message-ID: <008001c4b7c4$539f7a50$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Bob Duchesene, who was the morning host on country station on WQCB Brewer for 18 years, is the Democrat nominee for the Maine House of Representatives in House District #13. The district includes the following towns north of Bangor: Alton, Argyle, Bradford, Greenbush, Hudson, Lagrange and Milford; and part of Indian Island. The district has no incumbent running and has more Democrats than Republicans so Bob will probably win. He is running radio ads on his former station reminding people of who he is, which is a smart move. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From fox893@yahoo.com Fri Oct 22 05:38:22 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Fri Oct 22 05:38:31 2004 Subject: Sox... In-Reply-To: <8c.179d3ba2.2ea93d4d@aol.com> Message-ID: <20041022093823.25442.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> That thought actually ran through the minds of several of my coworkers. --- RogerKola@aol.com wrote: > Might have been a Yankee Fan working in network > distribution... > > Shades of the Heidi Bowl ! > > Roger > WESX 1230 > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Oct 22 07:00:31 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri Oct 22 07:01:24 2004 Subject: Radio guys named Jenssen (or is that Jensen--or Jenson...) Message-ID: <001201c4b826$749f9520$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I heard a guy doing (I think) Metro traffic the other day (forget which station). He identified himself as Gregg Jenssen (don't know how he spells either name). He has great pipes, which made me think of another guy named Jenssen (Leif Jenssen) who had great pipes and was well known in this market (on WNAC/WRKO and Channel 7) back in the day. Anybody know whether these two Jenssens are related? Is Leif Jenssen still living? Is Gregg Jenssen the son of Leif Jenssen? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Oct 22 10:32:34 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Oct 22 10:32:37 2004 Subject: Radio guys named Jenssen (or is that Jensen--or Jenson...) Message-ID: <200410221032.AA91750966@mail.ttlc.net> "Dan Strassberg" >I heard a guy doing (I think) Metro traffic the other day >(forget which station). He identified himself as Gregg Jenssen >(don't know how he spells either name). He has great pipes, >which made me think of another guy named Jenssen (Leif Jenssen) who >had great pipes and was well known in this market (on WNAC/WRKO and >Channel 7) back in the day. Anybody know whether these two >Jenssens are related? I believe Gregg is Leif's son. >Is Leif Jenssen still living? I don't know. I worked with him at WNAC-TV in 1970-72. The pipes were unbelieveable. Good man to work with. Almost always wore a blazer with a turtleneck. From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Fri Oct 22 16:58:36 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Fri Oct 22 16:59:09 2004 Subject: Howie Carr Syndication/Affiliates....whats the Deal? ;-) Message-ID: <095001c4b879$ef85e660$1404fea9@xyz> Does anyone know what kind of deal Howie's syndicator (now Superadio) makes with it's affiliates? I am knowledgable about MOST syndication deals (spots/inventory, etc)...What I'm wondering is about the deal that affiliates, specifically of the Howie Carr show make. Outside of a few pretty good New England outlets where he is most relevant..most of his stations appear to be very small stations in very small markets. (i.e... 1KW on the outskirts of a market, etc.) Anyone know the specific of the deal a station has to make to get the Howie show? Thanks! From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Oct 22 22:24:29 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri Oct 22 22:09:54 2004 Subject: #1 Arbitron rated In-Reply-To: <007901c4b7c3$21f69390$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: On 10/21/04 7:10 PM, "Daniel Billings" wrote: > Frank is running bumpers that say "#1 Arbitron rated for Classic Hits in > Portland." > > Doesn't Arbitron have rules against mentioning ratings during a ratings > period? I think the rules may involve publicly stating the actual rating share numbers, not just the rank. Eli From sgitschier@cfl.rr.com Sat Oct 23 00:18:15 2004 From: sgitschier@cfl.rr.com (Email) Date: Sat Oct 23 00:19:18 2004 Subject: WRCG 1420 Testing DX References: Message-ID: <000501c4b8b7$5d1eebd0$66e5ca44@gitscher> WRCG in Columbus GA is testing on 1420khz. An arranged DX test Midnight to 1AM eastern. Right now. Ron Gitschier Palm Coast, FL From steveord@bit-net.com Sat Oct 23 07:31:00 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Oct 23 07:31:00 2004 Subject: Howie Carr Syndication/Affiliates....whats the Deal? ;-) In-Reply-To: <095001c4b879$ef85e660$1404fea9@xyz> References: <095001c4b879$ef85e660$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20041023072525.01ae6980@pop3.bit-net.com> Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >Does anyone know what kind of deal Howie's syndicator (now Superadio) makes >with it's affiliates? >Outside of a few pretty good New England outlets where he is most >relevant..most of his stations appear to be very small stations in very >small markets. (i.e... 1KW on the outskirts of a market, etc.) > >Anyone know the specific of the deal a station has to make to get the Howie >show? AFAIK it's no different than most syndicated talk shows...the show is free, you must run the network spots. I'm sure the fact that he tends to be on smaller stations factors into the price that the network charges per spot, though networks have often been known to inflate the market somewhat...ie-when WTPL (Hillsborough/Concord, N.H.) carried Bill O'Reilly his website listed them as a "Boston" affiliate. Of course with Kiss 108 being a first adjacent there was no chance you'd hear them inside of 495, but they probably didn't tell the fine folks at Gold Bond powder that. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sat Oct 23 08:46:36 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sat Oct 23 08:46:24 2004 Subject: #1 Arbitron rated In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000d01c4b8fe$55fc0440$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> On 10/21/04 7:10 PM, "Daniel Billings" wrote: > Frank is running bumpers that say "#1 Arbitron rated for Classic Hits > in Portland." > Doesn't Arbitron have rules against mentioning ratings during a > ratings period? To which Eli replied: >> I think the rules may involve publicly stating the actual rating share numbers, >>not just the rank. I actually asked our ops mgr about this and he stated that use of the word "Arbitron" is not prohibited. Use of phrases such as "write us down in your Arbitron diary" or, "please, sweet Lord above, write us down in your Arbitron diary" are prohibited. I always enjoyed WBCN's use of the clever "if your cow is part of the mating service dairy" (or something to that affect...) The ultimate is the classic radio-ratings-promotions spoof, Super Q... - -Chuck Igo From DonKelley@aol.com Sat Oct 23 15:24:04 2004 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Sat Oct 23 15:24:24 2004 Subject: #1 Arbitron rated Message-ID: <1B305C10.32D4FCBA.0238A7FB@aol.com> Here's the deal: You can mention Arbitron by name. I've done it, and cleared it with Policies & Procedures at Arbitron. The conditions are that you must be an Arbitron subscriber, you cannot refer to a survey that is going at the time, and any qualifications - such as demo or daypart - must be included every time you do the liner. You also cannot encourage listeners to write anything down, as Chuck Igo pointed out. You can't encourage reporting of any listening. What can you do? For example, you can say "Arbitron rated #1 for At-Work listening" if you are indeed #1 12+, Mon-Sun 6A-12Mid when ranked by "listen away from home at work" in Maximi$er. You cannot say something like "Arbitron rated #1 for Hip-Hop and today's hottest music" because Arbitron does not rank by format. From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Oct 23 15:48:19 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Oct 23 15:48:43 2004 Subject: #1 Arbitron rated References: <1B305C10.32D4FCBA.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <00ed01c4b939$41554c00$1404fea9@xyz> From: > You cannot say something like "Arbitron rated #1 for Hip-Hop and today's hottest music" because Arbitron does not rank by format. < So that would make this statement below in the forbidden category? > "#1 Arbitron rated for Classic Hits in > Portland." Would this be serious enough to get them a 'flag' in the first page of the book? (or in the digital age, a footnote? i.e. +, ++, ..) JP ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ""Chuck Igo"" ; ""'Eli Polonsky'"" Cc: ""(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest"" Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 3:24 PM Subject: RE: #1 Arbitron rated > Here's the deal: You can mention Arbitron by name. I've done it, and cleared it with Policies & Procedures at Arbitron. The conditions are that you must be an Arbitron subscriber, you cannot refer to a survey that is going at the time, and any qualifications - such as demo or daypart - must be included every time you do the liner. > > You also cannot encourage listeners to write anything down, as Chuck Igo pointed out. You can't encourage reporting of any listening. > > What can you do? For example, you can say "Arbitron rated #1 for At-Work listening" if you are indeed #1 12+, Mon-Sun 6A-12Mid when ranked by "listen away from home at work" in Maximi$er. > > You cannot say something like "Arbitron rated #1 for Hip-Hop and today's hottest music" because Arbitron does not rank by format. > > From DonKelley@aol.com Sat Oct 23 16:55:57 2004 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Sat Oct 23 16:56:29 2004 Subject: #1 Arbitron rated Message-ID: <79077CBA.66F51453.0238A7FB@aol.com> Correct - you cannot say that. Arbitron ranks stations by AQH share, AQH persons, AQH rating, cume persons, cume rating, and TSL. They'll list them alphabetically. There is no ranking, however, by format. You can say you're #1 for Classic Rock, but don't include Arbitron's name in the liner. If someone were to report this liner to Arbitron the station would get a call from the legal department saying they must immediately cease using the liner. If the station continued to use it they would probably face delisting - meaning that their call letters wouldn't appear at all in the next book. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Oct 23 17:32:33 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Oct 23 17:32:39 2004 Subject: #1 Arbitron rated References: <1B305C10.32D4FCBA.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <002101c4b947$cf276aa0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ""Chuck Igo"" ; ""'Eli Polonsky'"" Cc: ""(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest"" Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 3:24 PM Subject: RE: #1 Arbitron rated > You cannot say something like "Arbitron rated #1 for Hip-Hop and today's > hottest music" because Arbitron does not rank by format. The Frank liner says something like "#1 Arbitron rated in Portland for Classic Hits." Frank was #1 in the last book overall so is that OK? Thanks for the rules. From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sat Oct 23 18:58:02 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sat Oct 23 18:58:17 2004 Subject: #1 Arbitron rated In-Reply-To: <79077CBA.66F51453.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <001e01c4b953$c07984f0$c3ec33d1@alvin> What happens, then, when a ranked station gets on Arbitron's crap list. Do they list the stations with a blank? Such as: 1. WMJX 2. WBZ 3. Some delisted station 4. WRKO Doesn't this skew the ratings for those below the delisted one? Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of DonKelley@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 4:56 PM > To: Joseph Pappalardo; ""Chuck Igo""; ""'Eli Polonsky'"" > Cc: ""(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest"" > Subject: Re: #1 Arbitron rated > > > Correct - you cannot say that. Arbitron ranks stations by > AQH share, AQH persons, AQH rating, cume persons, cume > rating, and TSL. They'll list them alphabetically. There is > no ranking, however, by format. You can say you're #1 for > Classic Rock, but don't include Arbitron's name in the liner. > > If someone were to report this liner to Arbitron the station > would get a call from the legal department saying they must > immediately cease using the liner. If the station continued > to use it they would probably face delisting - meaning that > their call letters wouldn't appear at all in the next book. > > > From mlaurence@mindspring.com Sat Oct 23 21:14:43 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sat Oct 23 21:14:43 2004 Subject: #1 Arbitron rated Message-ID: <166B8BA8-255A-11D9-86A3-000393D13824@mindspring.com> On Oct 23, 2004, at 5:32 PM, Daniel Billings wrote: > The Frank liner says something like "#1 Arbitron rated in Portland for > Classic Hits." > > Frank was #1 in the last book overall so is that OK? Why doesn't he just say "Portland's Classic Hits, Arbitron rated #1." Then he doesn't sound like he is trying to qualify something he doesn't even need to qualify. It's a stronger sounding liner from the listener's point of view, isn't it? Mark From francini@mac.com Sat Oct 23 22:42:19 2004 From: francini@mac.com (John J. Francini) Date: Sat Oct 23 22:42:26 2004 Subject: WGIR: ESPN Sox coverage instead of Joe and Jerry? In-Reply-To: <166B8BA8-255A-11D9-86A3-000393D13824@mindspring.com> References: <166B8BA8-255A-11D9-86A3-000393D13824@mindspring.com> Message-ID: I was surprised to note that WGIR is carrying ESPN's radio feed of the Sox in the World Series instead of the Red Sox Radio Network. What's up with that? Contractual obligations? Where I am I can't get WEEI worth a darn after sunset, even with vintage highly sensitive vacuum-tube radios... Any thoughts out there besides listening on the Internet (which is a good minute or more behind the live action?) Where can I find info on constructing some sort of viable external AM-band antenna? Nevertheless, the ESPN coverage is significantly better than the execrable Tim McCarver on Fox. john -- ---- John Francini +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; | | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress.| | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" | | -- John Adams | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Oct 23 22:50:47 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat Oct 23 22:50:25 2004 Subject: WGIR: ESPN Sox coverage instead of Joe and Jerry? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <013e01c4b974$476f2df0$6400a8c0@AMD> For some reason, affiliates aren't able to carry the World Series or Superbowl. WEEI is the only station broadcasting with Joe and Jerry. Can someone explain why? It seems crazy to me. This is the time that people would most want to hear their local announcers! Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of John J. Francini Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 10:42 PM To: bri@bostonradio.org Subject: WGIR: ESPN Sox coverage instead of Joe and Jerry? I was surprised to note that WGIR is carrying ESPN's radio feed of the Sox in the World Series instead of the Red Sox Radio Network. What's up with that? Contractual obligations? Where I am I can't get WEEI worth a darn after sunset, even with vintage highly sensitive vacuum-tube radios... Any thoughts out there besides listening on the Internet (which is a good minute or more behind the live action?) Where can I find info on constructing some sort of viable external AM-band antenna? Nevertheless, the ESPN coverage is significantly better than the execrable Tim McCarver on Fox. john -- ---- John Francini +----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; | | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress.| | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" | | -- John Adams | +----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ From dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Sat Oct 23 23:14:17 2004 From: dmoisan@davidmoisan.org (David Moisan) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:14:19 2004 Subject: WGIR: ESPN Sox coverage instead of Joe and Jerry? In-Reply-To: References: <166B8BA8-255A-11D9-86A3-000393D13824@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.1.20041023230829.02019b90@incoming.verizon.net> At 10:42 PM 10/23/2004, John J. Francini wrote: >Any thoughts out there besides listening on the Internet (which is a good >minute or more behind the live action?) Where can I find info on >constructing some sort of viable external AM-band antenna? Radio Shack had a loop antenna. Discontinued, but there may be some in a stock room somewhere. As for construction plans, I found this site in my bookmarks, http://www.mindspring.com/~loop_antenna/ribbonloop.htm I can walk you through the construction of a loop in private email, or at least tell you how I made mine. David Moisan, N1KGH ARES/SKYWARN dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Invisible Disability: http://www.davidmoisan.org/invisible_disability.html ATS-909 FAQ: http://www.davidmoisan.org/radio/sangean/ats909faq.html From gary@garysicecream.com Sat Oct 23 23:30:45 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:31:00 2004 Subject: is this broadcast censorship? Message-ID: <00c201c4b979$dacf0c00$6500a8c0@office> I am somewhat surprised that no one has mentioned the fact that Mayor Tom "mumbles" Menino has passed an executive order that tv cameras and reporters will not be allowed in bars during the world series. What the hell gives him the right to say where cameras and reports can and cannot be filed from? Its none of his business. If government gets away with this, it will a short hop to telling the media what they can and cannot report about, at least in my opinion. The medias silence on this really surprises me. g From mhiggs@gmail.com Sat Oct 23 23:48:13 2004 From: mhiggs@gmail.com (Matt Higgs) Date: Sat Oct 23 23:48:17 2004 Subject: is this broadcast censorship? In-Reply-To: <00c201c4b979$dacf0c00$6500a8c0@office> References: <00c201c4b979$dacf0c00$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: Why arn't they allowed in bars? That makes no sence. On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:30:45 -0400, gic wrote: > I am somewhat surprised that no one has mentioned the fact that Mayor Tom > "mumbles" Menino has passed an executive order that tv cameras and reporters > will not be allowed in bars during the world series. What the hell gives > him the right to say where cameras and reports can and cannot be filed from? > Its none of his business. If government gets away with this, it will a > short hop to telling the media what they can and cannot report about, at > least in my opinion. The medias silence on this really surprises me. > > g > > From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Oct 24 00:16:53 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun Oct 24 00:17:01 2004 Subject: is this broadcast censorship? In-Reply-To: <00c201c4b979$dacf0c00$6500a8c0@office> References: <00c201c4b979$dacf0c00$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: At 11:30 PM -0400 10/23/04, gic wrote: >I am somewhat surprised that no one has mentioned the fact that >Mayor Tom "mumbles" Menino has passed an executive order that tv >cameras and reporters will not be allowed in bars during the world >series. What the hell gives him the right to say where cameras and >reports can and cannot be filed from? Its none of his business. If >government gets away with this, it will a short hop to telling the >media what they can and cannot report about, at least in my opinion. >The medias silence on this really surprises me. I don't think it's censorship. A bar is private property, but licensed by the state to sell liquor. The owner of a bar can exclude anyone he/she wishes (as long as it doesn't violate discrimination laws), including reporters and camera crews. The mayor's order is not directed at TV crews, but rather warns the bar owners that they risk their licenses if they allow TV crews in their establishments. This is much the same as the government requiring your ice cream stands to meet standards of sanitation and food preparation, in order to insure public safety. The government licenses establishments to sell liquor, and as such has control over the environment and circumstances of such sales. Selling alcohol is a privilege and not a right. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From mlaurence@mindspring.com Sun Oct 24 00:21:03 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sun Oct 24 00:21:04 2004 Subject: is this broadcast censorship? In-Reply-To: <00c201c4b979$dacf0c00$6500a8c0@office> References: <00c201c4b979$dacf0c00$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: <1DF0BB61-2574-11D9-86A3-000393D13824@mindspring.com> On Oct 23, 2004, at 11:30 PM, gic wrote: > I am somewhat surprised that no one has mentioned the fact that Mayor > Tom "mumbles" Menino has passed an executive order Where did you get the information that this was an executive order, or that it was any kind of order at all? > that tv cameras and reporters will not be allowed in bars during the > world series. All I've heard is that bar owners have agreed not to permit live shots from inside their establishments, something they certainly have the right to do. Given that a girl died in the frenzy after the Sox win over New York, it seems like a small concession to the, um, relentless pursuit of the truth. And, under these circumstances, what TV station is going to try to shove its way into the Cask & Flagon to foist more live shots of drunks on their audience? Mayor Menino talked about banning alcohol sales completely in the neighborhood, and that's probably within his power. Then he used that power to work out a decent compromise that will make the Fenway area safer without the live in-bar cameras. It's a smart move by the mayor, another good reason why Boston voters love the guy. And that "mumbles" slur got old about a decade ago. Mark From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Oct 24 00:24:11 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Sun Oct 24 00:24:22 2004 Subject: is this broadcast censorship? References: <00c201c4b979$dacf0c00$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: <00e701c4b981$4ff20f80$6500a8c0@office> A bar is also a public gathering place and to exclude the press strikes me as being just another liberty being stripped away. Sounds like the USSR in the 60's. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: "Boston radio e-mail list" Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 12:16 AM Subject: Re: is this broadcast censorship? > At 11:30 PM -0400 10/23/04, gic wrote: >>I am somewhat surprised that no one has mentioned the fact that Mayor Tom >>"mumbles" Menino has passed an executive order that tv cameras and >>reporters will not be allowed in bars during the world series. What the >>hell gives him the right to say where cameras and reports can and cannot >>be filed from? Its none of his business. If government gets away with >>this, it will a short hop to telling the media what they can and cannot >>report about, at least in my opinion. The medias silence on this really >>surprises me. > > I don't think it's censorship. A bar is private property, but licensed by > the state to sell liquor. The owner of a bar can exclude anyone he/she > wishes (as long as it doesn't violate discrimination laws), including > reporters and camera crews. The mayor's order is not directed at TV > crews, but rather warns the bar owners that they risk their licenses if > they allow TV crews in their establishments. This is much the same as the > government requiring your ice cream stands to meet standards of sanitation > and food preparation, in order to insure public safety. > > The government licenses establishments to sell liquor, and as such has > control over the environment and circumstances of such sales. Selling > alcohol is a privilege and not a right. > -- > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Oct 24 00:44:28 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Sun Oct 24 00:44:44 2004 Subject: is this broadcast censorship? References: <00c201c4b979$dacf0c00$6500a8c0@office> <1DF0BB61-2574-11D9-86A3-000393D13824@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <00ee01c4b984$27e7a290$6500a8c0@office> Howie Carr uses it every day - many stations (including wcap) are still running the Menino PSA where he promotes funding for "prostraTe" cancer. He still mumbles. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Laurence" To: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 12:21 AM Subject: Re: is this broadcast censorship? > > On Oct 23, 2004, at 11:30 PM, gic wrote: > >> I am somewhat surprised that no one has mentioned the fact that Mayor Tom >> "mumbles" Menino has passed an executive order > > Where did you get the information that this was an executive order, or > that it was any kind of order at all? > >> that tv cameras and reporters will not be allowed in bars during the >> world series. > > All I've heard is that bar owners have agreed not to permit live shots > from inside their establishments, something they certainly have the right > to do. Given that a girl died in the frenzy after the Sox win over New > York, it seems like a small concession to the, um, relentless pursuit of > the truth. And, under these circumstances, what TV station is going to > try to shove its way into the Cask & Flagon to foist more live shots of > drunks on their audience? > > Mayor Menino talked about banning alcohol sales completely in the > neighborhood, and that's probably within his power. Then he used that > power to work out a decent compromise that will make the Fenway area safer > without the live in-bar cameras. It's a smart move by the mayor, another > good reason why Boston voters love the guy. And that "mumbles" slur got > old about a decade ago. > > Mark > From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Oct 24 01:01:18 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Oct 24 01:01:26 2004 Subject: is this broadcast censorship? Message-ID: <20041024050118.4ACE439E5@mprdmxin.myway.com> >> The mayor's order is not directed at TV crews, but rather warns the bar owners that they risk their licenses if they allow TV crews in their establishments. Hey Red Sox fans! This Pepsi's for you! :) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From maine.radio@verizon.net Sun Oct 24 08:08:24 2004 From: maine.radio@verizon.net (WCTB-FM/WHQO-FM/WSKW-AM) Date: Sun Oct 24 08:08:46 2004 Subject: WGIR: ESPN Sox coverage instead of Joe and Jerry? References: <013e01c4b974$476f2df0$6400a8c0@AMD> Message-ID: <000c01c4b9c2$2ae54900$6501010a@LAPTOP> Hey, I'm an affiliate, and I'm not even clear on what the reason is. As I understand it, though, it's always been that way. The theory I've heard is that it's due to contractual obligations between MLB and ESPN, but seems to me WEEI also benefits from not having to set aside local avails on the network. What you were listening to lass night likely was WEEI's network feed. 'EEI offered (and we carried) coverage starting at 6:30: a half hour of talk (no local avails) and then the extended pre-game we had for the playoffs. At 7:30, with an audible pop as the switch was thrown, WEEI started feeding us ESPN's pregame. I have to say, I'm just a little disappointed with 'EEI on this, not because we're getting ESPN's play-by-play, which is beyond their control, but because of what we did get from WEEI: The hour of coverage which originated from their studios didn't follow their format and had local spots and WEEI promos in network positions. Additionally, we were informed with minimal notice that there would be no automation closures for the game. -J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Lehmann" To: "'John J. Francini'" ; Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 10:50 PM Subject: RE: WGIR: ESPN Sox coverage instead of Joe and Jerry? > For some reason, affiliates aren't able to carry the World Series or > Superbowl. WEEI is the only station broadcasting with Joe and Jerry. Can > someone explain why? It seems crazy to me. This is the time that people > would most want to hear their local announcers! > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf > Of John J. Francini > Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 10:42 PM > To: bri@bostonradio.org > Subject: WGIR: ESPN Sox coverage instead of Joe and Jerry? > > I was surprised to note that WGIR is carrying ESPN's radio feed of > the Sox in the World Series instead of the Red Sox Radio Network. > What's up with that? Contractual obligations? > > Where I am I can't get WEEI worth a darn after sunset, even with > vintage highly sensitive vacuum-tube radios... > > Any thoughts out there besides listening on the Internet (which is a > good minute or more behind the live action?) Where can I find info > on constructing some sort of viable external AM-band antenna? > > Nevertheless, the ESPN coverage is significantly better than the > execrable Tim McCarver on Fox. > > john > -- > ---- > John Francini > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a > disgrace; | > | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a > Congress.| > | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" > | > | -- John Adams > | > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > > > From nostaticatall@comcast.net Sun Oct 24 11:22:41 2004 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Sun Oct 24 11:22:55 2004 Subject: WGIR: ESPN Sox coverage instead of Joe and Jerry? In-Reply-To: <000c01c4b9c2$2ae54900$6501010a@LAPTOP> References: <013e01c4b974$476f2df0$6400a8c0@AMD> <000c01c4b9c2$2ae54900$6501010a@LAPTOP> Message-ID: <8C1D1A54-25D0-11D9-8702-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> The reason you got the ESPN feed is because ESPN owns the broadcast rights to the World Series. The flagship stations of each team are allowed to use their own announcers, in this case WEEI and KMOX/St. Louis, but everyone else gets ESPN. In Providence, WPRO-AM is a Red Sox affiliate, but WSKO-AM & FM in that market aired the game instead because that station is an ESPN radio affiliate. My guess is that most Sox affiliates got to air the ESPN feed with only a few exceptions. As far as the "quality" of the WEEI pre-game programming, I can't answer to that. However, the commercial clocks did seem different than their usual programming, probably because they had to air some ESPN network spots as part of their arrangement so that Joe and Jerry could air the game in Boston. I'm sure WEEI will iron out some of the technical glitches before tonight's game. Or maybe not....... --Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Oct 24, 2004, at 8:08 AM, WCTB-FM/WHQO-FM/WSKW-AM wrote: > Hey, I'm an affiliate, and I'm not even clear on what the reason is. > As I understand it, though, it's always been that way. The theory I've > heard is that it's due to contractual obligations between MLB and > ESPN, but seems to me WEEI also benefits from not having to set aside > local avails on the network. > > What you were listening to lass night likely was WEEI's network feed. > 'EEI offered (and we carried) coverage starting at 6:30: a half hour > of talk (no local avails) and then the extended pre-game we had for > the playoffs. At 7:30, with an audible pop as the switch was thrown, > WEEI started feeding us ESPN's pregame. > > I have to say, I'm just a little disappointed with 'EEI on this, not > because we're getting ESPN's play-by-play, which is beyond their > control, but because of what we did get from WEEI: The hour of > coverage which originated from their studios didn't follow their > format and had local spots and WEEI promos in network positions. > Additionally, we were informed with minimal notice that there would be > no automation closures for the game. From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Oct 24 11:33:33 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Oct 24 11:33:43 2004 Subject: WGIR: ESPN Sox coverage instead of Joe and Jerry? Message-ID: <20041024153333.40C2B12D81@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>The reason you got the ESPN feed is because ESPN owns the broadcast rights to the World Series. The flagship stations of each team are allowed to use their own announcers, in this case WEEI and KMOX/St. Louis, but everyone else gets ESPN. In Boston, WEEI is also the ESPN affiliate. We're only hearing the Red Sox radio broadcast, and not the ESPN one (as far as I know); but in certain other cities, if they had a team in the WS, _both_ could conceivably be available. For example, had the dreaded and despised Yankees won, you would be able to hear the Yanks net via WCBS 880 _and_ probably the ESPN broadcast (most likely on WEPN 1050). But since WEEI is the ESPN affiliate and they don't want to let another station take the ESPN feed and cut their audience, we don't have that option (if, for example, one wished to hear an alternative to Joe and Jerry). _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From DonKelley@aol.com Sun Oct 24 11:37:26 2004 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Sun Oct 24 11:38:21 2004 Subject: #1 Arbitron rated Message-ID: <2E58ECED.7EFD38D3.0238A7FB@aol.com> In a message dated 10/23/2004 6:58:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Brian Vita" writes: >What happens, then, when a ranked station gets on Arbitron's crap list. ?Do >they list the stations with a blank? Such as: > >1. ?WMJX >2. ?WBZ >3. ?Some delisted station >4. ?WRKO > >Doesn't this skew the ratings for those below the delisted one? > Brian: Arbitron would make no reference to the offending station. In the scenario above WRKO and every station below it would move up one position. -Don >Brian T. Vita, President >Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. >77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 >Peabody, MA ?01960-5691 USA >+1-978-538-7575 voice >+1-978-538-7550 fax >www.cssinc.com > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >> [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] >> ?On Behalf Of DonKelley@aol.com >> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 4:56 PM >> To: Joseph Pappalardo; ""Chuck Igo""; ""'Eli Polonsky'"" >> Cc: ""(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest"" >> Subject: Re: #1 Arbitron rated >> >> >> Correct - you cannot say that. ?Arbitron ranks stations by >> AQH share, AQH persons, AQH rating, cume persons, cume >> rating, and TSL. ?They'll list them alphabetically. ?There is >> no ranking, however, by format. ?You can say you're #1 for >> Classic Rock, but don't include Arbitron's name in the liner. >> >> If someone were to report this liner to Arbitron the station >> would get a call from the legal department saying they must >> immediately cease using the liner. ?If the station continued >> to use it they would probably face delisting - meaning that >> their call letters wouldn't appear at all in the next book. >> >> ? ? >> > > From kfornal@verizon.net Sun Oct 24 13:29:43 2004 From: kfornal@verizon.net (Keith Fornal) Date: Sun Oct 24 13:29:50 2004 Subject: WGIR: ESPN Sox coverage instead of Joe and Jerry? In-Reply-To: <8C1D1A54-25D0-11D9-8702-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000c01c4b9ef$0d58c420$ca01a8c0@Celly> In Providence, the ESPN feed aired on WSKO AM/FM as well as WPRO each with their own separate local spots. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of David Tomm Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 11:23 AM To: WCTB-FM/WHQO-FM/WSKW-AM Cc: bri@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: WGIR: ESPN Sox coverage instead of Joe and Jerry? The reason you got the ESPN feed is because ESPN owns the broadcast rights to the World Series. The flagship stations of each team are allowed to use their own announcers, in this case WEEI and KMOX/St. Louis, but everyone else gets ESPN. In Providence, WPRO-AM is a Red Sox affiliate, but WSKO-AM & FM in that market aired the game instead because that station is an ESPN radio affiliate. My guess is that most Sox affiliates got to air the ESPN feed with only a few exceptions. As far as the "quality" of the WEEI pre-game programming, I can't answer to that. However, the commercial clocks did seem different than their usual programming, probably because they had to air some ESPN network spots as part of their arrangement so that Joe and Jerry could air the game in Boston. I'm sure WEEI will iron out some of the technical glitches before tonight's game. Or maybe not....... --Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Oct 24, 2004, at 8:08 AM, WCTB-FM/WHQO-FM/WSKW-AM wrote: > Hey, I'm an affiliate, and I'm not even clear on what the reason is. > As I understand it, though, it's always been that way. The theory I've > heard is that it's due to contractual obligations between MLB and > ESPN, but seems to me WEEI also benefits from not having to set aside > local avails on the network. > > What you were listening to lass night likely was WEEI's network feed. > 'EEI offered (and we carried) coverage starting at 6:30: a half hour > of talk (no local avails) and then the extended pre-game we had for > the playoffs. At 7:30, with an audible pop as the switch was thrown, > WEEI started feeding us ESPN's pregame. > > I have to say, I'm just a little disappointed with 'EEI on this, not > because we're getting ESPN's play-by-play, which is beyond their > control, but because of what we did get from WEEI: The hour of > coverage which originated from their studios didn't follow their > format and had local spots and WEEI promos in network positions. > Additionally, we were informed with minimal notice that there would be > no automation closures for the game. From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Oct 24 13:46:36 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Oct 24 13:46:44 2004 Subject: Former Channel 56 Anchor Anchors Sinclair Report Message-ID: <20041024174636.1A9F23384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Since no Sinclair stations are located anywhere near my home, I didn't have a chance to view the controversial (at least partially) anti-Kerry attackumentary Friday night. However, this morning (10/24) on CNN's "Reliable Sources with Howie Kurtz", they played a 30-second excerpt of the presentation (minus the sound), and lo and behold, there was old chum Jeff Barnd, who was given a slo-mo heave-ho by WLVI-TV last year. (It seemed as though a month-or-so elapsed between the time channel 56 announced he was being ousted and the first appearance of Frank Mallicoat in the anchor chair.) I wonder if Jeff's move to Sinclair's Baltimore "flagship" station might have turned out to be a promotion, if he's the one they chose for this heavily promoted presentation. BTW, no one has commented on the show itself on this board; there are correspondent living in the Springfield, MA and Portland, ME areas as well as other markets in Sinclair-land. Is it possible that the show ultimately was watched by so few people, it actually wound up having no impact! -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Oct 24 13:48:07 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Oct 24 13:49:55 2004 Subject: is this broadcast censorship? In-Reply-To: <00c201c4b979$dacf0c00$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: <417BB297.19515.600C14@localhost> On 23 Oct 2004 at 23:30, gic wrote: > I am somewhat surprised that no one has mentioned the fact that Mayor Tom > "mumbles" Menino has passed an executive order that tv cameras and > reporters will not be allowed in bars during the world series. What the > hell gives him the right to say where cameras and reports can and cannot > be filed from? Its none of his business. If government gets away with > this, it will a short hop to telling the media what they can and cannot > report about, at least in my opinion. The medias silence on this really > surprises me. Well, first of all, he can ask the TV stations and networks to cooperate voluntarily for the sake of public safety. Second, he or his appointees control the conditions of the bars' license renewals. If the bars don't want to abide by his orders, they may have trouble keeping their licenses. And if anyone shows up with TV cameras, it will be the bouncers at the bars who will keep them out. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Oct 24 13:48:07 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Oct 24 13:50:34 2004 Subject: WGIR: ESPN Sox coverage instead of Joe and Jerry? In-Reply-To: <8C1D1A54-25D0-11D9-8702-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> References: <000c01c4b9c2$2ae54900$6501010a@LAPTOP> Message-ID: <417BB297.5124.600C50@localhost> On 24 Oct 2004 at 11:22, David Tomm wrote: > The reason you got the ESPN feed is because ESPN owns the broadcast > rights to the World Series. The flagship stations of each team are > allowed to use their own announcers, in this case WEEI and KMOX/St. > Louis, but everyone else gets ESPN. In Providence, WPRO-AM is a Red Sox > affiliate, but WSKO-AM & FM in that market aired the game instead because > that station is an ESPN radio affiliate. My guess is that most Sox > affiliates got to air the ESPN feed with only a few exceptions. If I recall correctly, back in the 1967 World Series, the games were on WCOP, which was the NBC affiliate at the time, and not on WHDH, which was the usual Red Sox station, because it was NBC that had the rights to the World Series. It is a change since then for the team's local station to be able to broadcast the series, too. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sun Oct 24 15:06:46 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sun Oct 24 15:14:35 2004 Subject: Former Channel 56 Anchor Anchors Sinclair Report In-Reply-To: <20041024174636.1A9F23384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000001c4b9fc$9cbdd440$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Sir Laurence wrote: >>(snip) and lo and behold, there was old chum Jeff Barnd, who was given a slo-mo heave-ho by WLVI-TV last year. (snip) Is it possible that the show ultimately was watched by so few people, it actually wound up having no impact! << Here in Portland, Sinclair is WGME 13, a CBS affiliate and former stomping ground of Jeff Barnd. After a number of Sinclair's major ad accounts pulled, or threatened to pull, their schedules over the airing of the report, Sinclair semi-recanted and put together a "watered-down" version, using some of the material in the original (fill in the blank)umentary and anchored by (as we now know) one of the Sinclair reporters. I did not personally watch the presentation, nor, I would imagine, did anyone on this side of 1918 as there was some type of sports program that may have captured more of the region's interest, so I can not attest as to what actually aired. - -Chuck Igo From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sun Oct 24 16:16:41 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sun Oct 24 16:16:45 2004 Subject: WGIR: ESPN Sox coverage instead of Joe and Jerry? In-Reply-To: <000c01c4b9ef$0d58c420$ca01a8c0@Celly> Message-ID: <20041024201641.22259.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> If I recall, I was ten at the time, the 1967 World Series on TV was both on Boston Channels 4 and 5 with a mix of Boston and network announceers for the home games and St. Louis and network announcers for the St. Louis games. John Derry NH From mhiggs@gmail.com Sun Oct 24 17:36:26 2004 From: mhiggs@gmail.com (Matt Higgs) Date: Sun Oct 24 17:36:27 2004 Subject: Former Channel 56 Anchor Anchors Sinclair Report In-Reply-To: <000001c4b9fc$9cbdd440$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> References: <20041024174636.1A9F23384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> <000001c4b9fc$9cbdd440$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: >From what I've seen on Media Line, it was poorly produced with horrible sound and bad video. I guess it was less then desirable to show on air. WGME in Portland got some protesters outside the station the day of the broadcast, and lost some advertisers over the deal. They've posted a cheesy message on their website to persuade viewers that their news is unbiased. On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:06:46 -0400, Chuck Igo wrote: > Sir Laurence wrote: > > >>(snip) and lo and behold, there was old chum Jeff Barnd, who was given > a slo-mo heave-ho by WLVI-TV last year. (snip) > Is it possible that the show ultimately was watched by > so few people, it actually wound up having no impact! << > > Here in Portland, Sinclair is WGME 13, a CBS affiliate and former > stomping ground of Jeff Barnd. After a number of Sinclair's major ad > accounts pulled, or threatened to pull, their schedules over the airing > of the report, Sinclair semi-recanted and put together a "watered-down" > version, using some of the material in the original (fill in the > blank)umentary and anchored by (as we now know) one of the Sinclair > reporters. > > I did not personally watch the presentation, nor, I would imagine, did > anyone on this side of 1918 as there was some type of sports program > that may have captured more of the region's interest, so I can not > attest as to what actually aired. > > - -Chuck Igo > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Oct 24 20:35:57 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Oct 24 20:36:48 2004 Subject: Former Channel 56 Anchor Anchors Sinclair Report References: <000001c4b9fc$9cbdd440$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <005f01c4ba2a$988e1e60$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Igo" To: "'Laurence Glavin'" Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: RE: Former Channel 56 Anchor Anchors Sinclair Report > I did not personally watch the presentation, nor, I would imagine, did > anyone on this side of 1918 as there was some type of sports program > that may have captured more of the region's interest, so I can not > attest as to what actually aired. > > - -Chuck Igo WGME had the show on at 8 on Friday so it was not up against the Sox. I didn't watch it but the local papers made it sound like it was not harshly anti-Kerry with clips of the documentary being a small part of the program. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Oct 24 20:40:06 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Oct 24 20:40:10 2004 Subject: is this broadcast censorship? References: <00c201c4b979$dacf0c00$6500a8c0@office> <1DF0BB61-2574-11D9-86A3-000393D13824@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <006b01c4ba2b$2cb0f090$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Laurence" To: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 12:21 AM Subject: Re: is this broadcast censorship? >> All I've heard is that bar owners have agreed not to permit live shots > from inside their establishments, something they certainly have the right > to do. I think that's right. I can't see how the Mayor could change the regulations imposed on bars overnight by executive order. Maybe he has some kind of emergency authority but I think the city would be on pretty weak ground if they tried to take a license based on a camera being present in a bar. I think the bar owners wanted to cooperate and worked with the city on a compromise. From dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Mon Oct 25 10:06:10 2004 From: dmoisan@davidmoisan.org (David Moisan) Date: Mon Oct 25 10:06:09 2004 Subject: WGIR: ESPN Sox coverage instead of Joe and Jerry? In-Reply-To: <20041024201641.22259.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> References: <000c01c4b9ef$0d58c420$ca01a8c0@Celly> <20041024201641.22259.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.1.20041025100456.01ed8150@incoming.verizon.net> At 04:16 PM 10/24/2004, you wrote: >If I recall, I was ten at the time, the 1967 World Series on TV was both >on Boston Channels 4 and 5 with a mix of Boston and network announceers Where was the radio coverage in 1975? I remember trying, and failing, to get the Sox on my AM radio. David Moisan, N1KGH ARES/SKYWARN dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Invisible Disability: http://www.davidmoisan.org/invisible_disability.html ATS-909 FAQ: http://www.davidmoisan.org/radio/sangean/ats909faq.html From dcassell@gmail.com Mon Oct 25 10:39:40 2004 From: dcassell@gmail.com (Damon Cassell) Date: Mon Oct 25 10:39:49 2004 Subject: Police investigate Red Sox banner hung from radio tower In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.1.20041025100456.01ed8150@incoming.verizon.net> References: <000c01c4b9ef$0d58c420$ca01a8c0@Celly> <20041024201641.22259.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> <6.1.1.1.1.20041025100456.01ed8150@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: <2979f9f4041025073964c53d8d@mail.gmail.com> From: http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--redsoxbanner1022oct22,0,6130838,print.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire NEW HARTFORD, N.Y. -- Police are trying to determine who climbed a 250-foot radio station tower in central New York and hung a homemade Red Sox flag after Boston beat the New York Yankees and advanced to the World Series. The red flag, which was discovered early Thursday, appeared to say "BoSox: Curse This," according to Galaxy Communications General Manager Michael Ninnie. The tower, which is two feet wide and is partly electrified, has several no-trespassing signs surrounding its base, Ninnie said. Galaxy is planning to remove the flag from WTLB's radio tower on Monday. The station received numerous calls during their Thursday morning show, mostly from Yankees fans. "They're a little outraged," Ninnie said. "It wasn't a happy day for Yankee fans on Thursday, and this is a constant reminder of that game." The station has not experienced any technical problems as a result of the banner, but it could possibly affect the AM radio signal, Ninnie said. Boston defeated New York in game 7 of the American League Championship Series at Yankee Stadium Wednesday night to clinch the pennant. The Red Sox have not won a World Series since 1918, and the team's futility since Babe Ruth's sale to the Yankees in 1920 has been blamed on the "Curse of the Bambino." From sid@wrko.com Sun Oct 24 10:20:49 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon Oct 25 12:14:52 2004 Subject: is this broadcast censorship? Message-ID: >>A bar is also a public gathering place and to exclude the press strikes me as being just another liberty being stripped away. Sounds like the USSR in the 60's.<< Thank you. At least one person gets it. >>The owner of a bar can exclude anyone he/she wishes (as long as it doesn't violate discrimination laws), including reporters and camera crews. The mayor's order is not directed at TV crews, but rather warns the bar owners that they risk their licenses if they allow TV crews in their establishments. This is much the same as the government requiring your ice cream stands to meet standards of sanitation and food preparation, in order to insure public safety.<< Baloney. A first-year law student could punch enough holes in that argument to make it resemble Swiss cheese. The mayor's order serves no function other than to abridge the freedom of the press, and there are few clearer examples of exactly the sort of excessive use of government power intended to be remedied by the First Amendment. Turning the Emerson student's death into an excuse to keep reporters away from certain places is another layer of grease on the slippery slope. One of his cops accidentally shot and killed an innocent bystander, the press reported it, and now the PRESS must pay the price? What is he afraid of, anyhow? And what benefit accrues to him by making the press the scapegoat and ultimately the enemy? He not only mumbles, but he's apparently discovered that his foot fits perfectly in his mouth. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From sid@wrko.com Mon Oct 25 11:26:47 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon Oct 25 12:41:40 2004 Subject: Police investigate Red Sox banner hung from radio tower Message-ID: >>NEW HARTFORD, N.Y. -- Police are trying to determine who climbed a 250-foot radio station tower in central New York and hung a homemade Red Sox flag after Boston beat the New York Yankees and advanced to the World Series.<< I know who it was. Our old pal R.F. Burns. (He or she is likely to have burns all over their hands, unless the station was off the air at the time.) >>The tower, which is two feet wide and is partly electrified, has several no-trespassing signs surrounding its base, Ninnie said.<< I smell a fine (in addition to the culprit's burned flesh), if they don't have the tower bases enclosed in fencing. Signs are insufficient for a series-fed AM tower. That's one of the FCC's hot-button issues. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From radio88@radio88.net Fri Oct 22 12:37:08 2004 From: radio88@radio88.net (Todd Glickman) Date: Mon Oct 25 13:41:12 2004 Subject: Gregg Jensen Message-ID: Gregg is also doing per-diem anchoring/reporting on WBZ. Recently he's been on some weekend midday, as well as evening shifts. Gregg was most recently at WBT in Charlotte. Previously, he worked at both WINS and WCBS in New York City. When he was at WCBS, I was his meteorologist from time-to-time, and he was always a pleasure to work with. As I understand it, Gregg's family lives on the Cape, so this is a homecoming for him. -- Todd Glickman Office of Corporate Relations, MIT Trustee, WMBR (FM), Cambridge Meteorologist, WCBS Newsradio 880, New York City From miscon@miscon.net Mon Oct 25 16:16:05 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Mon Oct 25 16:16:13 2004 Subject: is this broadcast censorship? Message-ID: <200410251616.AA106823772@miscon.net> Maybe I'm getting this wrong, but there seems to be several issues here. And plenty of "grey area." Someone earlier said (I apologize to not having the proper credit): >>A bar is also a public gathering place and to exclude the press strikes me as being just another liberty being stripped away. Sounds like the USSR in the 60's.<< Well, the press is NOT being excluded from bars in the Fenway area. I saw many a reporter going into the Cask and the BBT, some with cameras - both ENG and SLR types - the past three days (after the so-called ban). And yes, for the record, *I* did really see them, in person. Neither the establishment nor the police barred them (pardon the pun) from entering. It's "live-shots" that are not to be shown; and as I recall, several Boston television stations already have policies in place forbidding the "in-bar, live-shot" practice during sporting events. There's a webpage that provides some ethical live coverage questions and guidelines (courtesy of the Radio-Television News Directors Association and Foundation): http://www.rtndf.org/ethics/live.shtml Sid wrote: "The mayor's order serves no function other than to abridge the freedom of the press, and there are few clearer examples of exactly the sort of excessive use of government power intended to be remedied by the First Amendment." I'll let the lawyers on the list handle that one (though to my mind there's something to the "live-shot" ban that is akin to not yelling "fire!" in a crowded theater.) Sid continued: "Turning the Emerson student's death into an excuse to keep reporters away from certain places is another layer of grease on the slippery slope." Again, reporters are not being kept from those places. But that "slippery slope" is certainly beneath us, and our footing bears continuous watching! Sid again: "One of his cops accidentally shot and killed an innocent bystander, the press reported it, and now the PRESS must pay the price? What is he afraid of, anyhow? And what benefit accrues to him by making the press the scapegoat and ultimately the enemy?" Interesting points. And to a certain degree, I have asked the same questions. However one might extrapolate that it was not the actual news reporting of the death that the mayor is punishing the "press" for, but perhaps it's part in fostering a less-than-peaceful assembly PRIOR to the tragedy. I don't mean to seem insensitive to the horror that unfolded, nor am I excusing it; though if my comments seem to be thoughtless, for that I will humbly apologize. Mike Michael G. Wilkins From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Oct 26 11:25:32 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue Oct 26 11:25:36 2004 Subject: Dan Pierce, formerly of WGIR can be found at... Message-ID: <20041026152532.61781.qmail@web12504.mail.yahoo.com> Since I've received three inquiries about Dan Pierce, formerly of WGIR AM610 Manchester NH, I'll pass along where he can be found. http://danpierce.blogspot.com/ There is an e-mail link there where he can be directly contacted. John B Derry NH From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Oct 26 11:49:37 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Oct 26 11:49:47 2004 Subject: Howie Carr on C-SPAN Fri Message-ID: <20041026154937.3E7CF3A74@mprdmxin.myway.com> Howie Carr mentioned his radio show will be simulcast on C-SPAN on Friday at 3 pm. Other radio talk shows (from Toledo, Pittsburgh, Cincinnatti, etc.) are being simulcast as well. Most seem to be from "swing states"-- Ohio, Penn.; and while Mass. isn't a swing state, NH is... http://www.c-span.org _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From mlaurence@mindspring.com Tue Oct 26 20:57:41 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Tue Oct 26 20:57:44 2004 Subject: Howard Stern on line 2 Message-ID: <3412CEC4-27B3-11D9-9C7F-000393D13824@mindspring.com> FCC Commissioner Michael Powell was a guest on KGO in San Francisco today, when a surprise caller showed up to debate censorship and FCC fines: Howard Stern. His interview is available on http://www.kgoam810.com until Wednesday morning at 9 Pacific time. The first part of the interview with Powell is interesting, but if you want to skip to Howard's appearance, it starts at about 32 minutes into the hour. Mark From scott@fybush.com Wed Oct 27 00:38:12 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Oct 27 00:37:23 2004 Subject: WBNW 1120 - day power/pattern at night? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20041027003653.03278f50@gwind.pair.com> Well, anyone else have an explanation for why I was hearing them almost as loud as KMOX's call of the Cards' loss (YESSSSS!!!!!) here in Rochester, as late as 10 tonight? This is not uncommon for WBNW, am I right? s From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Oct 27 00:47:15 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed Oct 27 00:47:31 2004 Subject: WBNW 1120 - day power/pattern at night? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20041027003653.03278f50@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <000901c4bbe0$0932f760$6400a8c0@AMD> WBNW is a lot stronger than KMOX here on the South Shore. There's no way they're running their correct night power, and yes, this is not uncommon. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Scott Fybush Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:38 AM To: bri@bostonradio.org Subject: WBNW 1120 - day power/pattern at night? Well, anyone else have an explanation for why I was hearing them almost as loud as KMOX's call of the Cards' loss (YESSSSS!!!!!) here in Rochester, as late as 10 tonight? This is not uncommon for WBNW, am I right? s From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Oct 27 00:52:24 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed Oct 27 00:52:36 2004 Subject: WBNW 1120 - day power/pattern at night? In-Reply-To: <000901c4bbe0$0932f760$6400a8c0@AMD> Message-ID: <000a01c4bbe0$c1a91a90$6400a8c0@AMD> Actually, looking at their pattern, I might hear them pretty strong at night, but you certainly shouldn't. Did their pattern change in recent years? I seem to remember KMOX being a much more common catch. They must be staying on the day pattern, who knows about the power. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lehmann Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:47 AM To: 'Scott Fybush'; bri@bostonradio.org Subject: RE: WBNW 1120 - day power/pattern at night? WBNW is a lot stronger than KMOX here on the South Shore. There's no way they're running their correct night power, and yes, this is not uncommon. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Scott Fybush Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:38 AM To: bri@bostonradio.org Subject: WBNW 1120 - day power/pattern at night? Well, anyone else have an explanation for why I was hearing them almost as loud as KMOX's call of the Cards' loss (YESSSSS!!!!!) here in Rochester, as late as 10 tonight? This is not uncommon for WBNW, am I right? s From billo@shoreham.net Wed Oct 27 22:51:28 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Oct 27 22:51:35 2004 Subject: Sports pays the bills Message-ID: <41805EB0.1090904@shoreham.net> The first baseball game was broadcast in 1923. Now that I tied it to radio, GO SOX GO. We need this. Bill O'Neill From sven@gordsven.com Wed Oct 27 23:49:48 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Wed Oct 27 23:49:55 2004 Subject: SOX WIN!!! In-Reply-To: <41805EB0.1090904@shoreham.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Bill O'Neill wrote: > We need this. And we got it! SOX WIN SOX WIN SOX WIN!!!! 3-0 -- steph new york city From scott@fybush.com Thu Oct 28 01:25:54 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Oct 28 01:25:05 2004 Subject: Sox Win - Fybushes Head East Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20041028012343.032f1478@gwind.pair.com> WE DID IT! And after watching the game of a lifetime with some fellow Sox Nation sufferers-no-more here in the hinterlands, we can't stay away from Boston a minute longer. We're headed to Boston Thursday and we'll be out there somewhere for the big parade on Friday. NERW luncheon Saturday before we leave town? Somewhere in the western suburbs? Bet on it. s, listening to Steve Leveille on WBZ and wishing I was there right now! From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Oct 28 01:51:32 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Oct 28 01:49:52 2004 Subject: Sox Win - Fybushes Head East In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20041028012343.032f1478@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <418050A4.37.549729@localhost> On 28 Oct 2004 at 1:25, Scott Fybush wrote: > WE DID IT! And after watching the game of a lifetime with some fellow Sox > Nation sufferers-no-more here in the hinterlands, we can't stay away from > Boston a minute longer. We're headed to Boston Thursday and we'll be out > there somewhere for the big parade on Friday. NERW luncheon Saturday > before we leave town? Somewhere in the western suburbs? Bet on it. I'd love to, but I will be out of town for the entire weekend. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Oct 28 01:51:33 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Oct 28 01:53:18 2004 Subject: Sports pays the bills In-Reply-To: <41805EB0.1090904@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <418050A5.29350.549ABC@localhost> On 27 Oct 2004 at 22:51, Bill O'Neill wrote: > The first baseball game was broadcast in 1923. Now that I tied it to > radio, GO SOX GO. When the Red Sox last won the World Series, my father was six years old. Too bad he isn't around to enjoy this. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Thu Oct 28 04:40:59 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Oct 28 04:41:11 2004 Subject: Sports pays the bills Message-ID: <20041028084059.26C5039BA@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>When the Red Sox last won the World Series, my father was six years old. Too bad he isn't around to enjoy this Yes, sad. My own dad is still with us (will be 84 in Feb.) and he was born 3 years after the last Sox WS victory. To show you just how long it's been, I believe Ted Williams wasn't born yet when the '18 Championship happened (I think Ted came along in '19, and joined the Sox 20 years later). A toast to those who did not live to see this: --Ted Williams --Ken Coleman --Ned Martin --Bob Starr --Victoria Snelgrove (would-be broadcast journalist who died at 21 in last week's riot) --Tom and Jean Yawkey (or as Yaz would say, "Mr. and Mrs. Yorkey") --former baseball commissioner A. Bartlett Giamatti (a Red Sox fan, I hear) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From scott@fybush.com Thu Oct 28 10:05:51 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Oct 28 10:05:07 2004 Subject: Fybushes in Boston: Change of plans... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20041028100359.032377a8@gwind.pair.com> His Mumbleness is now talking about a Saturday parade for the World Champion Red Sox (man, that still sounds so good) - so perhaps a Friday dinner instead? We're still leaving for Boston this morning and will be staying in Newton through Saturday; stay tuned to your e-mail.... s From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Oct 28 12:32:26 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Oct 28 12:32:39 2004 Subject: Fybushes in Boston: Change of plans... In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20041028100359.032377a8@gwind.pair.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20041028100359.032377a8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20041028123013.01f60140@mail.mac.com> At 10:05 AM 10/28/2004, Scott Fybush wrote: >His Mumbleness is now talking about a Saturday parade for the World >Champion Red Sox (man, that still sounds so good) - so perhaps a Friday >dinner instead? We're still leaving for Boston this morning and will be >staying in Newton through Saturday; stay tuned to your e-mail.... Drat!!! I was thinking I probably could make a Saturday lunch, but I cannot make a Friday dinner. I probably could make a Friday lunch if things go that way. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Oct 28 17:25:35 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Oct 28 17:25:49 2004 Subject: AirAmericaRadio In Portland (Maine that is) Monday Message-ID: <20041028212535.DEF5E3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> In recognition of the support AirAmerica Radio got from the listeners to AM 870, Al Franken will be hosting his show from the Merrill(sp?) Auditorium in Portland, ME this Monday, 11/1. Hey, I have next week off. I may give that Haverhill-to-Portland train a try. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Oct 29 02:26:25 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Oct 29 02:28:31 2004 Subject: AirAmericaRadio In Portland (Maine that is) Monday In-Reply-To: <20041028212535.DEF5E3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4181AA51.4336.F6FEE2@localhost> On 28 Oct 2004 at 16:25, Laurence Glavin wrote: > In recognition of the support AirAmerica Radio got from the > listeners to AM 870, Al Franken will be hosting his show > from the Merrill(sp?) Auditorium in Portland, ME > this Monday, 11/1. Hey, I have next week off. > I may give that Haverhill-to-Portland train a try. And I believe he will be originating from Cambridge on Tuesday. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Oct 29 08:17:15 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri Oct 29 08:17:23 2004 Subject: Fybushes in Boston: Change of plans... Message-ID: <200410291217.IAA31868@colossus.bilow.com> It's possible. Keep us in the loop. Brian Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste. 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 (978)538-7575 -----Original Message----- >From: "Scott Fybush" >Sent: 10/28/04 10:05:51 AM >To: "bri@bostonradio.org" >Subject: Fybushes in Boston: Change of plans... > >His Mumbleness is now talking about a Saturday parade for the World >Champion Red Sox (man, that still sounds so good) - so perhaps a Friday >dinner instead? We're still leaving for Boston this morning and will be >staying in Newton through Saturday; stay tuned to your e-mail.... > >s From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Oct 29 14:15:14 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Oct 29 14:15:17 2004 Subject: BRI Dinner *tonight* (Friday) Message-ID: <200410291815.i9TIFEQL019601@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> We're planning on dinner at McCormick & Schmick's seafood restaurant at Park Plaza. It's a little bit pricier than most of our previous dinners, but hey, the Sox won the series, so live a little! I have reservations for eight at 7:30. Please reply by email *before 6:30* if you will be able to attend. We will meet at about 7:25 at the entrance to Arlington MBTA station. -GAWollman From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Oct 29 14:50:31 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Oct 29 14:50:46 2004 Subject: Carr on C-SPAN, Hannity in Hub Message-ID: <20041029185031.0EA8F3AEA@mprdmxin.myway.com> The national focus on Boston turns from baseball to talk radio, however briefly, today. WRKO's Howie Carr will be simulcast on C-SPAN from 3-6 pm, and Sean Hannity (heard nationwide during those same hours) will do his show from Boston. WTKK runs Hannity tape delayed at 10 pm but when Jay Severin is off due to illness, vacation, or other committments, they run Sean live. Hannity is doing the show today from 2-5 pm (so says 'TKK's site) from F1 in Braintree. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Oct 29 15:36:19 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Oct 29 15:36:23 2004 Subject: Slight change of plans -- BRI Dinner *tonight* (Friday) In-Reply-To: <200410291815.i9TIFEQL019601@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200410291815.i9TIFEQL019601@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <200410291936.i9TJaIC1020340@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > We're planning on dinner at McCormick & Schmick's seafood restaurant > at Park Plaza. It's a little bit pricier than most of our previous > dinners, but hey, the Sox won the series, so live a little! I just talked to Gary Francis, and he suggested that the No Name on Fish Pier in South Boston would be a better choice. We're still planning on 7:30, although some stragglers will probably be OK. Again, please RSVP by 6:30 tonight. -GAWollman From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Oct 29 16:53:34 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Oct 29 20:56:16 2004 Subject: AirAmericaRadio In Portland (Maine that is) Monday Message-ID: <20041029205334.7DCC7E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org, "Laurence Glavin" >Subject: Re: AirAmericaRadio In Portland (Maine that is) Monday >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 02:26:25 -0400 > > On 28 Oct 2004 at 16:25, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > > In recognition of the support AirAmerica Radio got from the > > listeners to AM 870, Al Franken will be hosting his show > > from the Merrill(sp?) Auditorium in Portland, ME > > this Monday, 11/1. Hey, I have next week off. > > I may give that Haverhill-to-Portland train a try. > > And I believe he will be originating from Cambridge on Tuesday. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > Yes, I read that today. He'll be appearing at the Hotel Marlowe in Cambridge. I'm not familiar with that one. I doubt it's named after Bill "The meat falls off the bone" Marlowe. Considering Cambridge's reputation, it's probably named after a prominent LITERARY figure, playwright Christopher Marlowe, author "Dr. Faustus'; "Tamerlain" "Hamlet"; "Midsummer Night's Dream"; "Othello" and a mess of sonnets. So much for the idea of using government-subsidized Amtrak to Portland... no train early enough to get there before noon. But I also have Tuesday off, so I expect to go to the Cambridge show. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Oct 30 01:55:29 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Oct 30 01:57:10 2004 Subject: AirAmericaRadio In Portland (Maine that is) Monday Message-ID: <4182F491.21717.A07F3A@localhost> On 29 Oct 2004 at 15:53, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Yes, I read that today. He'll be appearing at the Hotel Marlowe in > Cambridge. I'm not familiar with that one. I doubt it's named > after Bill "The meat falls off the bone" Marlowe. Considering > Cambridge's reputation, it's probably named after a prominent > LITERARY figure, playwright Christopher Marlowe, author "Dr. > Faustus'; "Tamerlain" "Hamlet"; "Midsummer Night's Dream"; "Othello" > and a mess of sonnets. So much for the idea of using > government-subsidized Amtrak to Portland... no train early enough to > get there before noon. But I also have Tuesday off, so I expect to > go to the Cambridge show. -- I'm keeping Tuesday free for election work. I've volunteered either to drive voters or staff the phone bank, whichever they most need. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston,MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Oct 30 01:55:31 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Oct 30 01:57:14 2004 Subject: BRI Dinner *tonight* (Friday) Message-ID: <4182F493.18181.A0848E@localhost> On 29 Oct 2004 at 14:15, Garrett Wollman wrote: > We're planning on dinner at McCormick & Schmick's seafood restaurant > at Park Plaza. It's a little bit pricier than most of our previous > dinners, but hey, the Sox won the series, so live a little! Sorry I couldn't make this, as I had a trip already planned. I'm now sitting answering e-mail from a motel room in Greenfield. This weekend is UMass Homecoming. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston,MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Oct 29 17:31:25 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Oct 30 05:01:27 2004 Subject: Gloucester, MA Gets Two New Translators Message-ID: <20041029213125.8E540C6117@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Petitions to deny two translators in Gloucester, MA: one at 96.5, the other at 103.7 were themselves denied in today's (10/29) FCC actions. Nothing can stop them now. Do I smell a Steven Colbert "This Week in God" segment on "The Daily Show"? -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Oct 29 17:27:14 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Oct 30 05:01:32 2004 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX Duo Puts Up Website Message-ID: <20041029212714.BA903C6117@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> The Air America Radio tandem of WXKS-AM 1430 Everett, Ma and WKOX-AM 1200 Framingham, MA has put up a website that is accessible, but looks as though it's still under construction: http://www.bostonsnewtalk.com It mentions the Al Franken appearance in Cambridge, but doesn't have any more details, it just provides a registration form. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billo@shoreham.net Sat Oct 30 06:33:43 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Oct 30 06:34:05 2004 Subject: WXKS-AM/WKOX Duo Puts Up Website In-Reply-To: <20041029212714.BA903C6117@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20041029212714.BA903C6117@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <41836E07.20100@shoreham.net> Laurence Glavin wrote: >The Air America Radio tandem of WXKS-AM 1430 Everett, Ma >and WKOX-AM 1200 Framingham, MA has put up a website > > "Progressive Talk" in Boston? A no-brainer. Bill O'Neill From sven@gordsven.com Sat Oct 30 12:13:12 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Sat Oct 30 12:13:25 2004 Subject: AirAmericaRadio In Portland (Maine that is) Monday In-Reply-To: <20041029205334.7DCC7E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Bill "The meat falls off the bone" Marlowe. Considering Cambridge's > reputation, it's probably named after a prominent LITERARY figure, Or maybe it was named Marlowe because the proprietor's name was Marlowe? :) -- steph new york From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Oct 30 14:40:31 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Oct 30 14:40:42 2004 Subject: AirAmericaRadio In Portland (Maine that is) Monday Message-ID: <20041030184031.969443384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephanie Weil To: Laurence Glavin Subject: Re: AirAmericaRadio In Portland (Maine that is) Monday Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:13:12 -0400 (EDT) > > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > > Bill "The meat falls off the bone" Marlowe. Considering Cambridge's > > reputation, it's probably named after a prominent LITERARY figure, > > Or maybe it was named Marlowe because the proprietor's name was Marlowe? > :) > > -- > steph > new york > > If you believe that, then you'll believe there are really people named Hilton or Marriott. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Oct 30 14:53:04 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Oct 30 14:53:12 2004 Subject: Al Franken Cambridge Show NOT Open To The Public Message-ID: <20041030185304.E7AB93384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> I received an e-mail from WXKS/WKOX saying that the Al Franken appearance in Cambridge is not open to the general public, but by invitation and/or lottery drawing (sort of like flu shots). Dean Johnson mentioned the appearance in his Boston Herald column. Some people may just show up... what will happen to them (or me)? -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billo@shoreham.net Sat Oct 30 16:24:12 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Oct 30 16:24:34 2004 Subject: AirAmericaRadio In Portland (Maine that is) Monday In-Reply-To: <20041030184031.969443384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20041030184031.969443384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4183F86C.6080509@shoreham.net> Laurence Glavin wrote: >If you believe that, then you'll believe there are really people >named Hilton or Marriott. > > > Or Heinz. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Sat Oct 30 16:30:43 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Oct 30 16:30:55 2004 Subject: Al Franken Cambridge Show NOT Open To The Public In-Reply-To: <20041030185304.E7AB93384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20041030185304.E7AB93384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4183F9F3.1040007@shoreham.net> Laurence Glavin wrote: >I received an e-mail from WXKS/WKOX saying that the Al >Franken appearance in Cambridge is not open to the general >public, but by invitation and/or lottery drawing (sort of >like flu shots). Dean Johnson mentioned the appearance in >his Boston Herald column. Some people may just show up... >what will happen to them (or me)? > > > I find it very difficult to believe the attention Franken is getting. He stopped being funny when he once proclaimed, "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and dog gone it, people _like_ me." A brilliant comedy/sketch writer. I don't remember when he ever became relevant to political discourse, however. I've given it a shot checking out his medium market sounding show on the Burlington affiliate. And I'm a patient man! I know how important it is for AA to make it as a network. I also know that if the network can't make a go of it during the most divisive election cycle in recent memory, then, 'Oh, waiter...' For Franken's sake, I hope he remembers his roots. His humor and radio need not be mutually exclusive. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Sat Oct 30 16:39:33 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill..) Date: Sat Oct 30 16:39:41 2004 Subject: Uncle Walter...off his medication? Message-ID: <4183FC05.3080405@shoreham.net> Oh, this is getting good. Drudge just reporting that Walter Cronkite went on Larry King last night and said that he is "inclined to think that Karl Rove, the political manager at the White House, who is a very clever man, he probably set up bin Laden to this thing." And no, Larry just let that one slide by without comment, true to form. I am not sure if this is more of a story about the declining state of a venerable former news anchor acting out on his own, or some sort of odd collection of bon mots from the challenging party to toss it all up against the side of the barn just to see what sticks. -- "I'm always making a comeback but nobody ever tells me where I've been." Billie Holiday From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Oct 30 17:45:38 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Oct 30 17:50:48 2004 Subject: Al Franken Cambridge Show NOT Open To The Public References: <20041030185304.E7AB93384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> <4183F9F3.1040007@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <041401c4beca$696ae1a0$1404fea9@xyz> > I know how important it is for AA to make it as a network. I also know > that if the network can't make a go of it during the most divisive > election cycle in recent memory, then, 'Oh, waiter...' I heard that AA's deal with Franken is 1 million/year. From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sat Oct 30 21:25:22 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sat Oct 30 21:25:32 2004 Subject: Al Franken Cambridge Show NOT Open To The Public References: <20041030185304.E7AB93384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com><4183F9F3.1040007@shoreham.net> <041401c4beca$696ae1a0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <003d01c4bee8$7e725a10$6600a8c0@brianhome> > > I know how important it is for AA to make it as a network. I also know > > that if the network can't make a go of it during the most divisive > > election cycle in recent memory, then, 'Oh, waiter...' > > I heard that AA's deal with Franken is 1 million/year. > They're getting taken. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA Sales: (800)231-8849/Sales Fax (800)329-2775 Bus Ofc +1-978-538-7575/Business Ofc Fax +1-978-538-7550 www.cssinc.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Oct 30 23:27:21 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Oct 30 23:28:54 2004 Subject: Al Franken Cambridge Show NOT Open To The Public In-Reply-To: <4183F9F3.1040007@shoreham.net> References: <20041030185304.E7AB93384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <41842359.15895.5B83DC@localhost> On 30 Oct 2004 at 16:30, Bill O'Neill wrote: > I find it very difficult to believe the attention Franken is getting. > He stopped being funny when he once proclaimed, "I'm good enough, I'm > smart enough, and dog gone it, people _like_ me." A brilliant > comedy/sketch writer. I don't remember when he ever became relevant > to political discourse, however. I've given it a shot checking out > his medium market sounding show on the Burlington affiliate. And I'm > a patient man! Well, I enjoy listening to him. But then, it isn't because he's funny but because he tells the things that are going on, in plain- spoken language and, unlike Michael Moore, he is scrupulous about getting his facts straight. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston,MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sun Oct 31 02:38:54 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sun Oct 31 02:39:46 2004 Subject: Al Franken Cambridge Show NOT Open To The Public References: <20041030185304.E7AB93384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> <41842359.15895.5B83DC@localhost> Message-ID: <048901c4bf1c$b4279920$1404fea9@xyz> From: "A. Joseph Ross" > ...and, unlike Michael Moore, he is scrupulous about > getting his facts straight. Wow! And this from a liberal! Never thought I'd see the day! Admitting that Michael Moore *embellishes* his facts! Amazing...! ;-) From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Oct 31 09:35:04 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Oct 31 09:35:17 2004 Subject: (plug) I'm on WMWM today (blues & Halloween) Message-ID: <20041031143504.D1CBD39D6@mprdmxin.myway.com> shameless plug: my monthly appearance on the Juke Joint today (Sun 10/31, 12-3 pm on WMWM 91.7 FM in Salem). You can hear it on the North Shore. No streaming, though. In addition to the regular blues, there will be some Halloween themed stuff like: Monster Mash (the rarely-heard Bonzo Dog Band version) Cockroach that Ate Cincinnatti (Rose and the Arrangement) Purple People Eater--Sheb Wooley and some blues halloween stuff like I Put a Spell on You Evil Is Goin' On Hellhound on my Trail Bewitched (Lonnie Brooks; not the sitcom theme) etc _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun Oct 31 11:02:10 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sun Oct 31 11:02:23 2004 Subject: RRonline Message-ID: <003201c4bf62$fb2b36b0$6600a8c0@brianhome> Has anyone else had problems this weekend attempting to access RROnline? Their website seems to have disappeared. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA Sales: (800)231-8849/Sales Fax (800)329-2775 Bus Ofc +1-978-538-7575/Business Ofc Fax +1-978-538-7550 www.cssinc.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun Oct 31 11:06:03 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sun Oct 31 11:06:07 2004 Subject: RR Online Update Message-ID: <003801c4bf63$85f6d470$6600a8c0@brianhome> The www.rronline.com URL is currently dead. You can access the site through http://www.radioandrecords.com/ It looks like someone didn't renew their domain name. Oops. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA Sales: (800)231-8849/Sales Fax (800)329-2775 Bus Ofc +1-978-538-7575/Business Ofc Fax +1-978-538-7550 www.cssinc.com From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Oct 31 13:18:58 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Oct 31 13:19:07 2004 Subject: Al Franken Cambridge Show NOT Open To The Public Message-ID: <20041031181858.7CC32E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill O'Neill To: Laurence Glavin Subject: Re: Al Franken Cambridge Show NOT Open To The Public Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:30:43 -0400 > > > I find it very difficult to believe the attention Franken is getting. He > stopped being funny when he once proclaimed, > "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and dog gone it, people _like_ me." > A brilliant comedy/sketch writer. I don't remember when he ever became > relevant to political discourse, however. I've given it a shot checking > out his medium market sounding show on the Burlington affiliate. And > I'm a patient man! > > I know how important it is for AA to make it as a network. I also know > that if the network can't make a go of it during the most divisive > election cycle in recent memory, then, 'Oh, waiter...' > > For Franken's sake, I hope he remembers his roots. His humor and radio > need not be mutually exclusive. > > Bill O'Neill > I went to a public appearance he made at a church in Harvard Square (concerts and lectures are the only times you'll find me in a church) in mid-October, 2003. A huge crowd showed up (it WAS open to the public, and the Fire Department of the Peoples Republic had to call a halt to allowing more people in). I did manage to get a seat (being slender of build I fit into one of the pews), and during the next 90 minutes Al gave not only good political lecture, but show-business-savvy comedy. He could have gone another hour and not worn out his welcome. Setting aside ideology, the guy's good. Incidentally, I also saw the C-span tete-a-tete between Al and Bill O'Reilly, that ended with the host of "The O'Reilly Sphincter" yelling "you've had your 35 minutes, now SHUT UP!" The untold story of that kerfuffle is the fact that Franken had the audience in the palm of his hand for that length of time. Just a little pro-Al spin. (Hoping to see hime in Maine if not Mass. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Oct 31 13:21:47 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Oct 31 13:22:01 2004 Subject: Uncle Walter...off his medication? Message-ID: <20041031182152.1C96EE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Bill O'Neill.." >To: Boston Radio Interest >Subject: Uncle Walter...off his medication? >Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:39:33 -0400 > Oh, this is getting good. Drudge just reporting that Walter Cronkite > went on Larry King last night and said that he is "inclined to think > that Karl Rove, the political manager at the White House, who is a very > clever man, he probably set up bin Laden to this thing." And no, Larry > just let that one slide by without comment, true to form. > > I am not sure if this is more of a story about the declining state of a > venerable former news anchor acting out on his own, or some sort of odd > collection of bon mots from the challenging party to toss it all up > against the side of the barn just to see what sticks. > Actually, I think it was videotaped at the Watertown, Mass. studio all the talking head shows use when interviewing Massachusetts- based guests. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Oct 31 15:03:23 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Oct 31 15:03:34 2004 Subject: RR Online Update Message-ID: <20041031200323.DADED3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Brian Vita" >To: >Subject: RR Online Update >Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 11:06:03 -0500 > > The www.rronline.com URL is currently dead. You can access the site through > http://www.radioandrecords.com/ It looks like someone didn't renew their > domain name. Oops. > You are correct sir. Interesting item: if you type rronline.com into Google, it will correct it to radioandrecords.com. Also the link to rronline.com on fybush.com doesn't appear to work or didn't a short time ago. The S-man will have to fix that. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From pete@partnercomm.com Sun Oct 31 20:37:38 2004 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Sun Oct 31 20:41:41 2004 Subject: RR Online Update In-Reply-To: <20041031200323.DADED3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20041031200323.DADED3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <41859362.1080706@partnercomm.com> It would appear that www.rronline.com and www.radioandrecords.com resolve to different IP addresses. One (www.rronline.com) resolves to an address within XO Communications' network in Santa Ana, CA. The other is just down the road from me at Aleron (in Reston, VA). Neither domain is expired, and both have the same registration and contact information. I can't tell from their DNS SOA whether changes were made recently (from what I think I'm reading, it would appear not). -Peter Peter "ISP Engineer in a former life" Murray (N3IXY) Vienna, VA