From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Mar 1 11:06:11 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon Mar 1 11:06:18 2004 Subject: LTAR In-Reply-To: <4042790C.4901.4D9A64@localhost> References: <4042790C.4901.4D9A64@localhost> Message-ID: At 11:43 PM -0500 2/29/04, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >For the second week in a row today, Bob criticized CBS for running >reruns of Jay Leno and >Conan O'Brien late at night. Fine, but it's NBC, not CBS. NBC has been running several week-old episodes of Leno and Conan in the late night for quite a few years now. It's probably not making much money for the network or the affiliates, but at least it's not losing money like the previous all-night newscasts. ABC seems to have that time period wrapped up for news, there simply isn't a market for more than one overnight newscast. If Bob has a better idea for how to make money with original programming in the overnight period, I suggest that he present his proposal to NBC's programming department. And yes, the 4:30 AM "Early Today" newscast on NBC comes directly from MSNBC. So what! -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From miscon@miscon.net Mon Mar 1 12:32:39 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Mon Mar 1 12:31:39 2004 Subject: Dick Pleasants to retire Message-ID: <200403011232.AA16253090@miscon.net> Don't recall this being posted, but my apologies if it already has: "After 25 years as host of THE FOLK HERITAGE, Dick Pleasants has decided to retire in mid-March. (He?ll host his farewell show on Sat, 3/13 at 3pm.) Dick first joined WGBH in 1978. ?Dick has been an important part of our public service for a quarter century,? notes WGBH Radio?s Marita Rivero. ?His warm voice, knowledge and love of this music will be missed. He?s made an enormous contribution, and while we?re sad to lose him we wish him every success.? For the foreseeable future, WGBH Radio plans to provide programming using a similar mix of musical styles currently featured on THE FOLK HERITAGE." From Kaimbridge@programmer.net Mon Mar 1 09:57:29 2004 From: Kaimbridge@programmer.net (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Mon Mar 1 13:34:44 2004 Subject: WPTR Message-ID: <40434F59.B151694@Programmer.Net> A. Joseph Ross inquired, > I've been listening to WPTR this evening, for the last > time it seems. They've been running spots for the switch > to FM. I wonder if the changeover will be at midnight. I noticed them switchec @ 2:40am, so it probably was at 00:00. ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Mar 1 15:05:23 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon Mar 1 15:06:17 2004 Subject: Dick Pleasants to retire References: <200403011232.AA16253090@miscon.net> Message-ID: <000901c3ffc8$a1fd9b00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Is he also retiring from WUMB? I think he does AM drive there, so he spends a lot more time there, and presumably derives a lot more income from WUMB than he does from WGBH. I believe he also has a concert-promotion business. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Mission Control To: Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 12:32 PM Subject: Dick Pleasants to retire > > Don't recall this being posted, but my apologies if it already has: > > "After 25 years as host of THE FOLK HERITAGE, Dick Pleasants has decided to retire in mid-March. (He'll host his farewell show on Sat, 3/13 at 3pm.) Dick first joined WGBH in 1978. "Dick has been an important part of our public service for a quarter century," notes WGBH Radio's Marita Rivero. "His warm voice, knowledge and love of this music will be missed. He's made an enormous contribution, and while we're sad to lose him we wish him every success." For the foreseeable future, WGBH Radio plans to provide programming using a similar mix of musical styles currently featured on THE FOLK HERITAGE." > > > From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Mar 1 17:08:28 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Mar 1 17:08:45 2004 Subject: WNNW-AM 800 Makes the Cut Message-ID: Well, it took a year, but Costas/Eagle Broadcasting's WNNW-AM 800 made an appearance on the Arbitrends(tn) released today (03/01). By that I mean that it received a 12-and-over rating that can't be quoted here, but was enough to appear on the list at rronline.com. The Gary Francis-bereft WCAP-AM 980 Lowell went away. WJIB is getting to be a perennial. No WWZN or WBIX. I'd hate to be a salesman at either! Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From sven@gordsven.com Mon Mar 1 17:21:04 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Mon Mar 1 17:21:20 2004 Subject: WNNW-AM 800 Makes the Cut In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Laurence Glavin wrote: > released today (03/01). By that I mean that it received > a 12-and-over rating that can't be quoted here, but was enough to The newspapers publish the 12+ ratings. They're worthless to knowledgeable time-buyers. The real ratings are for specific demographics - 18-34 or something like that...and then it's also broken down by gender and daypart. -- Sven From DonKelley@aol.com Mon Mar 1 17:40:13 2004 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 1 17:41:35 2004 Subject: WNNW-AM 800 Makes the Cut Message-ID: <25244392.28FBCE4B.0238A7FB@aol.com> Sven: FYI, the only demo time buyers really care about is 25-54. WNNW did better 25-54 than it did 12+ or 18-34. If you want the actual numbers let me know. From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Mar 1 23:48:19 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon Mar 1 23:48:28 2004 Subject: Dick Pleasants to retire In-Reply-To: <200403011232.AA16253090@miscon.net> References: <200403011232.AA16253090@miscon.net> Message-ID: At 12:32 PM -0500 3/1/04, Mission Control wrote: > >"After 25 years as host of THE FOLK HERITAGE, >Dick Pleasants has decided to retire in >mid-March. (He?ll host his farewell show on Sat, >3/13 at 3pm.) Dick first joined WGBH in 1978. >?Dick has been an important part of our public >service for a quarter century,? notes WGBH >Radio?s Marita Rivero. ?His warm voice, >knowledge and love of this music will be missed. >He?s made an enormous contribution, and while >we?re sad to lose him we wish him every >success.? For the foreseeable future, WGBH Radio >plans to provide programming using a similar mix >of musical styles currently featured on THE FOLK >HERITAGE." I just received the current issue of New England Folk Waves, the publication of WUMB. The program schedule still shows Dick Pleasants as doing his 5 day a week morning gig at UMB, so I guess he's only retiring from the Saturday show at WGBH. Can anyone confirm or deny this? There's also an article stating that the main WUMB signal from Boston is being converted to HD Radio, but not the other transmitters. This is because CPB is funding the Boston conversion, but will not cover the costs for the other signals. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From ssmyth@psu.edu Mon Mar 1 23:53:48 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon Mar 1 23:53:55 2004 Subject: Good DX stuff Message-ID: <000b01c40012$59a678f0$59464742@Sean> Above some noise I caught WPOP (1410 Hartford) with a very audible signal on I-80 outside Williamsport, Pa., last night. I also pulled in a decent WWZN (1510 Boston) signal in State College tonight (of course that doesn't make the people trying to hear the signal in Milford feel any better). From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Mar 2 00:42:51 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Mar 2 00:43:20 2004 Subject: WPTR In-Reply-To: <40434F59.B151694@Programmer.Net> Message-ID: <4043D88B.25455.48CA3C@localhost> On 1 Mar 2004 at 14:57, Kaimbridge M. GoldChild wrote: > > I've been listening to WPTR this evening, for the last > > time it seems. They've been running spots for the switch > > to FM. I wonder if the changeover will be at midnight. > > I noticed them switchec @ 2:40am, so it probably was at 00:00. It was. I heard the changeover, but didn't get around to posting about it. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Tue Mar 2 10:55:16 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Tue Mar 2 10:55:20 2004 Subject: WNNW-AM 800 Makes the Cut In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040302155516.78732.qmail@web12826.mail.yahoo.com> On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 17:21:04 Sven Franklyn Weil wrote: > The newspapers publish the 12+ ratings. They're > worthless to > knowledgeable time-buyers. Then why is it when people quote those very 12+ ratings, markets' ratings get embargoed? Case in point: Watertown, NY. Yeah its a really small market, but apparently someone got caught quoting the 12+ ratings that was not an Arbitron subscriber, and as a result the ratings for that market are now embargoed TFN. I also believe the same thing happened in Rochester NY not too long ago - a company there which shall remain nameless was too cheap to subscribe to Arbitron, but was using their numbers in sales proposals and such. One of the competitors finally caught wind of this, and had the 12+ ratings embargoed. Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Tue Mar 2 11:00:38 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Tue Mar 2 11:00:47 2004 Subject: Money demos for ratings In-Reply-To: <25244392.28FBCE4B.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <20040302160038.40872.qmail@web12823.mail.yahoo.com> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 17:40:13 Don Kelley wrote: > FYI, the only demo time buyers really care > about is 25-54. WNNW did better 25-54 than it did > 12+ or 18-34. Here's a scenario then - if real time buyers only care about the 25-54 demo, then how do stations like CHRs and Modern Rocks, whose target demos are females and males 18-34, respectively, sell time effectively? I'm sure that their 25-54 numbers really aren't that good, or can they get time buyers to look at 18-34 when they consider the format the station(s) is/are running? Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Mar 2 16:28:53 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Mar 2 16:29:03 2004 Subject: Money demos for ratings In-Reply-To: <20040302160038.40872.qmail@web12823.mail.yahoo.com> References: <25244392.28FBCE4B.0238A7FB@aol.com> <20040302160038.40872.qmail@web12823.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <59524.216.204.15.170.1078262933.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Matt Osborne wrote: > > Here's a scenario then - if real time buyers only care > about the 25-54 demo, then how do stations like CHRs > and Modern Rocks, whose target demos are females and > males 18-34, respectively, sell time effectively? I'm > sure that their 25-54 numbers really aren't that good, > or can they get time buyers to look at 18-34 when they > consider the format the station(s) is/are running? Pop CHRs try to serve an 18-34 audience in order to pick up enough of that coveted 25-54 audience. Rhythmic CHRs, however are very teen heavy with little to no 25+ audience, and while they pay pull decent 12+ numbers you'll notice they're generally in the middle of the pack at best when it comes to actual billings. I'm sure this has much to do with modern/alternative rock's shift toward more 80s/90s music...in order to add listeners to the upper end of their demo range. I'm sure stations like WBZ do the opposite, try to do what they can to attract the younger end of their demo. From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Mar 2 17:56:28 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Mar 2 17:56:48 2004 Subject: Speaking of Embargos... Message-ID: My e-mail from allaccess.com indicates that Providence,RI and Springfield, MA are being embargoed. Apparently this doesn't happen just to the smaller cities; Cleveland, OH is still on the list and has been for a while. Where do sales reps in embargoed markets get valid numbers without cheating? Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Mar 2 21:39:16 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Mar 2 21:37:44 2004 Subject: Speaking of Embargos... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040302213740.00a00180@pop3.bit-net.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: >My e-mail from allaccess.com indicates that Providence,RI >and Springfield, MA are being embargoed. Apparently >this doesn't happen just to the smaller cities; Cleveland, OH >is still on the list and has been for a while. Where do >sales reps in embargoed markets get valid numbers without cheating? Curiously, why did the ratings get embargoed? Did some station employee get a diary or something? From kvahey@tmail.com Wed Mar 3 11:15:57 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed Mar 3 11:16:28 2004 Subject: WLIB flagship of Air America Message-ID: <1078330568.26396187@w37.dngr.org> The NY Post reports today that The liberal network Air America will have a NYC flagship WLIB 1190. Al Franken at Noon, Randi Rhodes ar 3 and Janeane Garfolo at 8. Robert Kennedy Jr on weekends. From sven@gordsven.com Wed Mar 3 11:57:11 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Wed Mar 3 11:57:19 2004 Subject: WLIB flagship of Air America In-Reply-To: <1078330568.26396187@w37.dngr.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The NY Post reports today that The liberal network Air America will have > a NYC flagship WLIB 1190. Al Franken at Noon, Randi Rhodes ar 3 and > Janeane Garfolo at 8. Robert Kennedy Jr on weekends. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. WLIB has alwyas been known as the premier talk station in the black community. It also plays a heavy dose of Caribbean reggae/soca music evenings/overnights and weekends. I wonder if these time slots will still be unaffected and the only Air America material will be mid-days and early evenings. I hope. Would be sad to see the reggae music taken off the air. It's practically the only remaining music station on AM in New York City. That being said, WLIB blankets the area with 10,000 watts. Solid signal in most all of the city. Appropriate call letters too!! -- Sven From ssmyth@psu.edu Wed Mar 3 12:33:57 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed Mar 3 12:34:04 2004 Subject: WLIB flagship of Air America Message-ID: <200403031733.MAA21939@webmail8.cac.psu.edu> On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 11:57:11, Sven Franklyn Weil wrote: > America material will be mid-days and early evenings. I hope. Would be > sad to see the reggae music taken off the air. It's practically the only > remaining music station on AM in New York City. Is WWRL (1600) all talk now? > That being said, WLIB blankets the area with 10,000 watts. Solid signal in > most all of the city. As I'm sure some will note, at the expense of WOWO (at least at night). From sven@gordsven.com Wed Mar 3 13:03:56 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Wed Mar 3 13:04:02 2004 Subject: WLIB flagship of Air America In-Reply-To: <200403031733.MAA21939@webmail8.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Sean Smyth wrote: > Is WWRL (1600) all talk now? Legitimate talk in the mornings, drivetime and a little bit in the evenings. Surrounded by brokered quack bull crap. A little bit of Carib music on the weekends (all gospel & religion on Sundays). > As I'm sure some will note, at the expense of WOWO (at least at night). Oh yes. WOWO in its day (pre 24 hour WLIB) was a wonderful station for overnight programming. Not anymore. WLIB at least was local with live jocks. Unfortunately there have been lots of budget cuts at WLIB. Something I don't quite understand because sister station WBLS-FM 107.5 is doing great (with the only non-local shift being morning drive). Something makes me smell mis-management at WLIB.....the station HAS potential....unfortunately, like what happened with WEVD 1050, the drive build wasn't there. It was just easier to sell to a bird-dropping (ESPN) and take the cash and run. -- Sven From oldradio@earthlink.net Wed Mar 3 13:11:17 2004 From: oldradio@earthlink.net (RBB) Date: Wed Mar 3 13:11:28 2004 Subject: WWRL References: <200403031733.MAA21939@webmail8.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <021a01c4014a$eda99c60$0549bb3f@S0031698896> <<<> Is WWRL (1600) all talk now?>>> Yup, legendary WWRL 1600AM in NYC is all "Urban Talk" weekdays, Caribbean music on Saturdays, and all-Gospel, all-Sunday. Nice web site: www.wwrl600.com with 25Kw daytime and 5Kw nighttime directional patterns. =Russ From kvahey@tmail.com Wed Mar 3 13:44:08 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed Mar 3 13:44:26 2004 Subject: WLIB flagship of Air America In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1078339455.200B8AE5@w5.dngr.org> Here is a link to the Post story on WLIB Be curious who picks it up in Boston http://nypost.com/entertainment/19564.htm On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 1:11pm, Sven Franklyn Weil wrote: > On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Sean Smyth wrote: > >> Is WWRL (1600) all talk now? > > Legitimate talk in the mornings, drivetime and a little bit in the > evenings. Surrounded by brokered quack bull crap. A little bit of > Carib > music on the weekends (all gospel & religion on Sundays). > > >> As I'm sure some will note, at the expense of WOWO (at least at >> night). > > Oh yes. WOWO in its day (pre 24 hour WLIB) was a wonderful station for > overnight programming. Not anymore. WLIB at least was local with live > jocks. > > Unfortunately there have been lots of budget cuts at WLIB. Something I > don't quite understand because sister station WBLS-FM 107.5 is doing > great > (with the only non-local shift being morning drive). > > Something makes me smell mis-management at WLIB.....the station HAS > potential....unfortunately, like what happened with WEVD 1050, the > drive > build wasn't there. It was just easier to sell to a bird-dropping > (ESPN) > and take the cash and run. > > -- > Sven From scott@fybush.com Wed Mar 3 14:56:43 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Mar 3 14:50:58 2004 Subject: WLIB flagship of Air America In-Reply-To: References: <200403031733.MAA21939@webmail8.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040303144817.0326a7f8@gwind.pair.com> At 01:03 PM 3/3/2004 -0500, Sven Franklyn Weil wrote: >On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Sean Smyth wrote: > > > Is WWRL (1600) all talk now? > >Legitimate talk in the mornings, drivetime and a little bit in the >evenings. Surrounded by brokered quack bull crap. A little bit of Carib >music on the weekends (all gospel & religion on Sundays). > > > > As I'm sure some will note, at the expense of WOWO (at least at night). > >Oh yes. WOWO in its day (pre 24 hour WLIB) was a wonderful station for >overnight programming. Not anymore. WLIB at least was local with live >jocks. But it bears noting that WOWO's not what it used to be, either. NOTHING local there overnight anymore - just the usual birdfeed talk overnight without even a local news presence. It still covers its home market (better, in fact, than many of us doomsayers predicted a decade ago), but it's not doing anything overnight that isn't already available on other frequencies outside the market. And by the time the local morning show comes on, it's back up to 50kW and still blanketing the region like it used to. s From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Wed Mar 3 16:44:38 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Wed Mar 3 16:37:39 2004 Subject: WWRL Message-ID: <200403031644.AA3123708048@mail.ttlc.net> "RBB" wrote: >Nice web site: >www.wwrl600.com www.wwrl1600.com works a bit better. Roger From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Mar 3 16:46:11 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Mar 3 16:46:24 2004 Subject: Speaking of Embargos... Message-ID: >DATE: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 21:39:16 >From: SteveOrdinetz >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > Laurence Glavin wrote: >>My e-mail from allaccess.com indicates that Providence,RI >>and Springfield, MA are being embargoed. Apparently >>this doesn't happen just to the smaller cities; Cleveland, OH >>is still on the list and has been for a while. Where do >>sales reps in embargoed markets get valid numbers without cheating? > >Curiously, why did the ratings get embargoed? Did some station employee >get a diary or something? > > No expert input in 24 hours. Perhaps no oneknows exactly how Providence and Springfield went offline so to speak. But if it's so easy for embargoes to occur and they can affect a major market like Cleveland, what's keeping it from happening in Boston? Is Boston too big? ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From miscon@miscon.net Wed Mar 3 16:55:30 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Wed Mar 3 16:54:23 2004 Subject: HD Radio Message-ID: <200403031655.AA77004958@miscon.net> Please forgive me if this is something that's already been talked about here... but I was just wondering what folks are thinking (or hearing) about HD Radio... Thanks, Mike From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Wed Mar 3 17:17:58 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Wed Mar 3 17:19:07 2004 Subject: Speaking of Embargos... References: Message-ID: <001001c4016d$652b0e00$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> From: "Laurence Glavin" > >Curiously, why did the ratings get embargoed? Did some station employee > >get a diary or something? > > > No expert input in 24 hours. Perhaps no oneknows exactly > how Providence and Springfield went offline so to speak. > But if it's so easy for embargoes to occur and they > can affect a major market like Cleveland, what's > keeping it from happening in Boston? Is Boston too > big? Emaragos are put in place by Arbitron for a couple of reasons. One, if Arbitron feels that a non-paying/subsciber station has been suspected of using them, this is one way of clamping down on them. Even the 12+ numbers get embargoed, no newspaper quotes, etc...so non-subscribing stations cannot even quote those numbers "informally" in an embargoed market. (i.e..."They were in the paper so everyone knows them...") Secondly, Arbitron will embargoe a market in the case of a subscribing station complaint about #'s being scattered around the market...(which the subscriber is paying for!) and, in turn, lessens the value to the Arbitron subscriber. ("Why should I subscribe when everyone already has the numbers...?) This way, the only people that get numbers are people that the subscriber's share them with. This raises the value of their arbitron subcription. (And no doubt allows them to charge comfiscatory rates.) This is/was usualy a concern only in smaller markets....larger markets it'd be hard to make a case that someone is diluting your subscriber's purchase. $.02 jp From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Mar 3 17:21:05 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Mar 3 17:21:09 2004 Subject: HD Radio In-Reply-To: <200403031655.AA77004958@miscon.net> References: <200403031655.AA77004958@miscon.net> Message-ID: <200403032221.i23ML5oZ049049@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Please forgive me if this is something that's already been talked > about here... but I was just wondering what folks are thinking (or > hearing) about HD Radio... Thanks, The MW version is a botch (although I hear they have at least fixed the problems with the codec). NAB is now pressuring the FCC to allow stations to use it at night, which is a monstrous abuse of spectrum. (Then again, you could say that about practically everything the FCC has done to AM broadcast in the past two decades.) The VHF version somewhat less so, although it's still a bad design created solely to perpetuate the artificial scarcity of broadcast signals in a market. -GAWollman From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Mar 3 17:27:44 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed Mar 3 17:27:35 2004 Subject: HD Radio In-Reply-To: <200403031655.AA77004958@miscon.net> Message-ID: <022401c4016e$c3a446d0$6400a8c0@AMD> Well, HD Radio is slowing killing any chance of DX here in Boston. You may have seen my posts on radio-info. These stations are currently using HD: 91.9 WUMB (This must be causing problems for WMWM, WOMR). 92.9 WBOS (probably cuts off WMVY, WHYN, and WMGX in some areas that used to get it). 93.7 WQSX (WDVT). 96.9 WTKK (WQSO). 105.7 WROR (WJYY, WQGN, WHCN, WBCI). Of course others like 97.1 WQHT will no longer be heard as often during the summer. 1030 WBZ (If it was authorized to be used at night, it would wipe out KDKA). Myself, and several other area DXers have left messages for Greater Media's engineer expressing concern for these problems, but as far as I know, nobody has gotten a reply. I also emailed WMVY making them aware of possible problems. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Mission Control Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:56 PM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: HD Radio Please forgive me if this is something that's already been talked about here... but I was just wondering what folks are thinking (or hearing) about HD Radio... Thanks, Mike From n1qgs@yahoo.com Wed Mar 3 18:32:27 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed Mar 3 18:32:31 2004 Subject: Sherburn vs Killington, a big part of the story missing. Message-ID: <20040303233227.73227.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> In regards to news coverage of Sherburne/Killington VT the vote for secession from VT. About three years ago the townsfolk or Sherburne VT voted to change the name of their town to Killington, the name of the ski resort village located within the town. The name change needed the approval of the State for the change to be official. If I recall, the state has chosen not to act on this, basically snubbing Shelburne. No news reports have mentioned this historical tidbit and if I'm correct, they are calling the town by it's incorrect name. Can anybody update me? John Londondondery then Derry, then East Derry then Derry, and now East Derry NH again, all from the same location! ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From fox893@yahoo.com Thu Mar 4 05:50:56 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Thu Mar 4 05:51:19 2004 Subject: Sherburn vs Killington, a big part of the story missing. In-Reply-To: <20040303233227.73227.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040304105056.41431.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> > act on this, basically > snubbing Shelburne. Ya mean "Sherburne"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From hmadjid@yahoo.com Thu Mar 4 12:53:11 2004 From: hmadjid@yahoo.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Thu Mar 4 12:53:22 2004 Subject: HD Radio Message-ID: <20040304175311.28619.qmail@web80007.mail.yahoo.com> Garrett Wollman Wrote: >The MW version is a botch (although I hear they have >at least fixed the problems with the codec)... ( >...The VHF version somewhat less so, although it's >still a bad design created solely to perpetuate the >artificial scarcity of broadcast signals in a >market... As I have commented in other on - line forums, I think HD radio is going to go the way of AM Stereo. I don't really see much average consumer / listener interest in HD radio. ===== 73, de Hakim (N1ZFF) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com From sven@gordsven.com Thu Mar 4 13:03:00 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Thu Mar 4 13:03:10 2004 Subject: HD Radio In-Reply-To: <20040304175311.28619.qmail@web80007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Hakim Madjid wrote: > HD radio is going to go the way of AM Stereo. I don't > really see much average consumer / listener interest > in HD radio. Except that IBOC radio is being rammed down consumers' throats. Am-stereo wasn't. The analog signal gets degraded on purpose and when you complain, you're greeted with "buy a new IBOC receiver or just deal with it." AM Stereo never degraded the mono signal this way. -- Sven From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Mar 4 13:11:08 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Mar 4 13:11:12 2004 Subject: HD Radio In-Reply-To: References: <20040304175311.28619.qmail@web80007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200403041811.i24IB8qu056366@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > AM Stereo never degraded the mono signal this way. Paging Dr. Kahn! Paging Dr. Kahn! -GAWollman From sven@gordsven.com Thu Mar 4 13:32:58 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Thu Mar 4 13:33:06 2004 Subject: HD Radio In-Reply-To: <200403041811.i24IB8qu056366@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Paging Dr. Kahn! Paging Dr. Kahn! Dr. Who? :P I was thinking of the C-Quam system....which turned out to eventually be the "industry standard". -- Sven From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Mar 4 13:35:07 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu Mar 4 13:35:10 2004 Subject: Shelburne vs Killington In-Reply-To: <20040304105056.41431.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040304183507.45758.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> --- Cooper Fox wrote: > > > act on this, basically > > snubbing Shelburne. > > Ya mean "Sherburne"? > > You're right, Sherburne is up near Burlington, I'm meant Shelburne! John ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From oldradio@earthlink.net Thu Mar 4 14:19:58 2004 From: oldradio@earthlink.net (RBB) Date: Thu Mar 4 14:20:01 2004 Subject: Shelburne vs Killington References: <20040304183507.45758.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03b101c4021d$b0968c60$0549bb3f@S0031698896> <<>> John - "Shelburne" (home of "The Shelburne Museum" on Lake Champlain) is nearer to Burlington (7 miles south) than is "Sherburne" which is near Killington (home of the ski rersort in the mountains.) and 80 miles south of Burlington. That one liittle "r" makes a big difference, eh? =Russ (...a former, 25 year VT resident, now living near The Sierras - still mountains, but more s-n-o-w and Lake Tahoe) From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Mar 4 17:29:17 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Mar 4 17:29:47 2004 Subject: "Savvy Traveler" Waves Goodbye Message-ID: The NPR or PRI (I don't know which) program "The Savvy Traveler" will be ceasing production soon. This opens up a 1-hour hole in the WBUR schedule. I think an excellent replacement would be WNYC's "On the Media". It was dropped during the onset of the Iraq incursion and not restored after regular programming resumed. Now, I can listen to it Sundays on WEVO, but those out of NHPR range are out of luck, or can access an audio feed on www.npr.org. So it doesn't matter to me if WBUR picks it up, but if any others enjoyed the program and would like it back on FM Channel 215, it might be a good idea to contact the station. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Mar 4 20:07:10 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu Mar 4 20:09:01 2004 Subject: "Savvy Traveler" Waves Goodbye References: Message-ID: <000d01c4024e$6704f7e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> They'll probably fill the hour with yet one more hour of stuffy, dry as dust, BBC news. Can't people get the BBC on the Internet? Do we have to have it on the radio? Does the CBC produce anything that WBUR could pick up instead of the BBC? The BBC is out of touch with listener sensibilities on this side of the Atlantic. WBUR's reliance on the BBC has certainly not improved the station's sound or listenability. The entire BBC News air staff sounds as if they walk around all day with clothes pins on their noses. Of all the BBC programs that WBUR carries, the only one that I find worth listening to is "My Word," which I guess is a kind of latter-day incarnation of the late 30s/early 40s US hit "Information Please." -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurence Glavin To: Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 5:29 PM Subject: "Savvy Traveler" Waves Goodbye > The NPR or PRI (I don't know which) program "The Savvy Traveler" > will be ceasing production soon. This opens up a 1-hour > hole in the WBUR schedule. I think an excellent replacement > would be WNYC's "On the Media". It was dropped during > the onset of the Iraq incursion and not restored after > regular programming resumed. Now, I can listen to it > Sundays on WEVO, but those out of NHPR range are out of luck, > or can access an audio feed on www.npr.org. So it doesn't > matter to me if WBUR picks it up, but if any others > enjoyed the program and would like it back on FM Channel > 215, it might be a good idea to contact the station. > > Laurence Glavin > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Mar 5 00:44:53 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Mar 5 00:44:57 2004 Subject: "Savvy Traveler" Waves Goodbye In-Reply-To: <000d01c4024e$6704f7e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <4047CD85.31665.241B56@localhost> On 4 Mar 2004 at 20:07, Dan Strassberg wrote: > They'll probably fill the hour with yet one more hour of stuffy, dry as > dust, BBC news. Can't people get the BBC on the Internet? Do we have to > have it on the radio? I can't listen to the Internet in my car. And since they don't broadcast shortwave to North America any more, this is how we hear them. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From billo@shoreham.net Fri Mar 5 09:13:22 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Mar 5 09:13:32 2004 Subject: Shelburne vs Killington In-Reply-To: <20040304183507.45758.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000701c402bc$04f94a10$0200a8c0@boneill> John writes: > You're right, Sherburne is up near Burlington, I'm meant Shelburne! > > John I think you were right the first time. Shelburne, Vermont is just south of Burlington, South Burlington on Rt. 7. Not sure of the context, though. Bill O'Neill From radiofreak@4motion.org Fri Mar 5 10:28:25 2004 From: radiofreak@4motion.org (Damon Cassell) Date: Fri Mar 5 10:28:31 2004 Subject: "Savvy Traveler" Waves Goodbye In-Reply-To: <4047CD85.31665.241B56@localhost> Message-ID: > > They'll probably fill the hour with yet one more hour of stuffy, dry as > > dust, BBC news. Can't people get the BBC on the Internet? Do we have to > > have it on the radio? > > I can't listen to the Internet in my car. And since they don't broadcast shortwave to North > America any more, this is how we hear them. But you could have XM in your car and hear the World Service unedited, unsanitized. I agree that the WS news tends to be dry but they do have excellent documentary and special features. The World Service can be erratic and frustrating but often brilliant, and I actually still listen to the shortwave signal directed at the Caribbean, which is quite listenable here in New England. -- Damon Cassell Marblehead MA http://www.cassell.de From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Mar 5 10:40:30 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri Mar 5 10:40:37 2004 Subject: BBC (was:Re: "Savvy Traveler" Waves Goodbye) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 10:28 AM -0500 3/5/04, Damon Cassell wrote: > >But you could have XM in your car and hear the World Service unedited, >unsanitized. I agree that the WS news tends to be dry but they do have >excellent documentary and special features. The World Service can be >erratic and frustrating but often brilliant, and I actually still >listen to the shortwave signal directed at the Caribbean, which is >quite listenable here in New England. Unedited? I believe the version of the BBC that we get on XM, Sirius, and PRI, as well as on the Internet, is a version edited for North American listeners, and is a different feed from what they get in other parts of the world. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From miscon@miscon.net Fri Mar 5 11:09:59 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Fri Mar 5 11:08:47 2004 Subject: BBC Message-ID: <200403051109.AA212271364@miscon.net> Larry Weil said: "Unedited? I believe the version of the BBC that we get on XM, Sirius, and PRI, as well as on the Internet, is a version edited for North American listeners, and is a different feed from what they get in other parts of the world." As you may guess, there are MANY BBC radio channels. Which ones XM and Sirius use I don't know. BBC/PRI/WGBH's "The World" uses the World Service feed at the top and bottom of the hour, which is the same World Service feed one might hear in Hungary or China, for example. A complete list of BBC channels (radio and television), can be found here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/whatson/services.shtml Now, having just spoken with a BBC editor, the CONTENT of the World Service NEWSCASTS (note: not World Service PROGRAMS) continues to be a bit of an experiment it seems, with an ever-growing inclusion of stories that pertain (in some form or another) to the United States. Mike From radiofreak@4motion.org Fri Mar 5 11:08:47 2004 From: radiofreak@4motion.org (Damon Cassell) Date: Fri Mar 5 11:08:49 2004 Subject: BBC (was:Re: "Savvy Traveler" Waves Goodbye) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Larry Weil wrote: > Unedited? I believe the version of the BBC that we get on XM, > Sirius, and PRI, as well as on the Internet, is a version edited for > North American listeners, and is a different feed from what they get > in other parts of the world. I actually asked about this on an XM list recently, and I was told by multiple XM listeners that the WS feed, at least on XM, is the same exact one you hear on shortwave. I don't own XM yet, so I can't verify this. Apparently the Sirius feed is North America specific. The Internet stream is definitely the same as shortwave, at least if you get it off of the bbc.co.uk site. Damon -- Damon Cassell Marblehead MA http://www.cassell.de From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Mar 5 12:06:28 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri Mar 5 12:07:21 2004 Subject: Shelburne vs Killington References: <000701c402bc$04f94a10$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <000701c402d4$4ce031a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> But look at it this way; in Japanese, they're both the same ;>) -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill O'Neill To: 'John Bolduc' ; 'Cooper Fox' Cc: Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 9:13 AM Subject: RE: Shelburne vs Killington > > John writes: > > > You're right, Sherburne is up near Burlington, I'm meant Shelburne! > > > > John > > I think you were right the first time. Shelburne, Vermont is just south of > Burlington, South Burlington on Rt. 7. Not sure of the context, though. > > Bill O'Neill > From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Mar 5 17:01:13 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Mar 5 17:01:30 2004 Subject: "Savvy Traveler" Waves Goodbye Message-ID: >DATE: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 20:07:10 >From: "Dan Strassberg" >To: ,interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org> >They'll probably fill the hour with yet one more hour of stuffy, dry as >dust, BBC news. Can't people get the BBC on the >Internet? Do we have to have >it on the radio? Does the CBC produce anything that >WBUR could pick up >instead of the BBC? The BBC is out of touch with listener sensibilities on >this side of the Atlantic. WBUR's reliance on the BBC has certainly not >improved the station's sound or listenability. I agree with you wholeheartedly...the Beeb is also a tune-out for me too. I imagine the management at Jane's World would reply that they've done the proverbial "market research" and can prove that the frequent iterations of the BBC are just fine with the majority of listeners. But I sense that carriage of theses newscasts picked up after donations and underwriting declined after 9/11 and also from pressure by those who felt NPR and 'BUR leaned too much toward the Palestinians in their coverage of the Middle East. (How Eli stays awake I'll never know) Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Mar 5 17:24:02 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Mar 5 17:24:34 2004 Subject: Now Here's The Plan Message-ID: For those of you who don't regularly peruse radio-info.com's Boston board, here's the plan Bob Bittner has worked out for the two airplays of LTAR each Sunday: the 6:00 am program will be the previous week's 11:00 am show; the 11:00 am broadcast will be the timely NEW program for that week. The mighty 740 is at full-power(!) at 6:00 am now (although, as we all know, skywaves pay no attention to the calendar!) ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Mar 6 01:50:35 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Mar 6 01:50:34 2004 Subject: BBC (was:Re: "Savvy Traveler" Waves Goodbye) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40492E6B.16281.544004@localhost> On 5 Mar 2004 at 11:08, Damon Cassell wrote: > I actually asked about this on an XM list recently, and I was told by > multiple XM listeners that the WS feed, at least on XM, is the same exact > one you hear on shortwave. I don't own XM yet, so I can't verify this. > Apparently the Sirius feed is North America specific. The Internet stream > is definitely the same as shortwave, at least if you get it off of the > bbc.co.uk site. Since there are no longer shortwave broadcasts to North America, this sounds circular. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Mar 6 01:50:36 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Mar 6 01:50:53 2004 Subject: "Savvy Traveler" Waves Goodbye In-Reply-To: References: <4047CD85.31665.241B56@localhost> Message-ID: <40492E6C.6612.544518@localhost> On 5 Mar 2004 at 10:28, Damon Cassell wrote: > But you could have XM in your car and hear the World Service unedited, > unsanitized. I agree that the WS news tends to be dry but they do have > excellent documentary and special features. The World Service can be > erratic and frustrating but often brilliant, and I actually still listen > to the shortwave signal directed at the Caribbean, which is quite > listenable here in New England. Listening to it on WBUR is a bit less expensive. I think some people think the World Service is dry because it carries real news. Some of the nonsense that passes for news on CNN and NECN these days is such a waste of time! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Mar 6 08:57:44 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Mar 6 08:58:08 2004 Subject: "Savvy Traveler" Waves Goodbye References: <4047CD85.31665.241B56@localhost> <40492E6C.6612.544518@localhost> Message-ID: <000b01c40383$09a7af80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I wasn't comparing the BBC with CNN or NECN. I don't have cable and don't watch either one. I was comparing the BBC with NPR's own news and that of the CBC, which I consider just about right in tone--except, for example, when Saddam Hussein was apprehended and NPR went to all Saddam 24/7 for how may days? In that case, I think the answer to the question "Hussein?" was "Certainly NOT NPR." Apparently some news junkies come across with big $$$ for NPR and NPR feels that in special situations, the more time they devote to news, the more $$$ will flow in. People who think that there was a need for Saddam 24/7 may (on average) have lots of money, but that doesn't stop them from being airheads. Maybe expanding the TOH news from 5 minutes to 10 with 1-minute headline updates at :30 would have been justified. What NPR did actually demeaned the value of news by creating a memory of the endless vapid vamping and filling. It was lousy news reporting and even worse radio. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: A. Joseph Ross To: Damon Cassell Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 1:50 AM Subject: Re: "Savvy Traveler" Waves Goodbye > On 5 Mar 2004 at 10:28, Damon Cassell wrote: > > > But you could have XM in your car and hear the World Service unedited, > > unsanitized. I agree that the WS news tends to be dry but they do have > > excellent documentary and special features. The World Service can be > > erratic and frustrating but often brilliant, and I actually still listen > > to the shortwave signal directed at the Caribbean, which is quite > > listenable here in New England. > > Listening to it on WBUR is a bit less expensive. > > I think some people think the World Service is dry because it carries real news. Some of the > nonsense that passes for news on CNN and NECN these days is such a waste of time! > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From EBradMeyer@comcast.net Sat Mar 6 07:26:14 2004 From: EBradMeyer@comcast.net (E. Brad Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 6 12:10:51 2004 Subject: CRB/GBH quad Message-ID: <4049C366.9010307@comcast.net> Gentlemen; Sorry if this is just a bother but I stumbled into an old conversation through a Google search for WCRB. Someone had mentioned the quad broadcasts mutually undertaken by WGBH and WCRB of the Boston Symphony. Skepticism was expressed over whether these could have sounded good, because of "the phase issues of broadcasting". FM stereo encoding and decoding was quite good in that department -- far better above 5 kHz, for example, than any phono cartridge, which pretty well scrambles the phase of the highest frequencies. (This includes the high-frequency reverb, which is one reason fans of LP sound think it conveys room sound better. It doesn't; a digital recording is far more accurate, while the LP system creates false but attractive effects.) But I digress. While the two stations did turn off their compressors, so the sound had a fighting chance of matching between the two separate FM tuners and playback systems you had to set up to hear them, they split the channels in a slightly odd way. Neither station wanted to take, if you'll excuse the expression, sloppy seconds, so (at least at first) one of them sent out left rear and left front, and the other right front and right rear! That list is in the correct order; the instructions were to set up one system with its left channel in the left rear of the room and its right channel in the left front, then turn 180 and set up the other L and R as RF and RR. It actually sounded OK, except that the miking didn't really convey a good picture of the hall; two pairs of omnis, one over row C and the other over row G, is interesting but not that accurate. And of course we could never get four identical speakers, so our attempts weren't doing it justice in the first place. Later the channels were divided more rationally and GBH took the row G mikes, which had LOTS of Symphony Hall reverb and sounded quite nice by themselves. -- E. Brad Meyer From elipolo@earthlink.net Sat Mar 6 12:51:14 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sat Mar 6 12:41:31 2004 Subject: "Savvy Traveler" Waves Goodbye In-Reply-To: <000b01c40383$09a7af80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: Well, without giving any personal opinion, I will mention that, for what it's worth, in last winter's book during that expanded Iraq war coverage, WBUR came in #1 in the 25-54 demo in the Boston Arbitrons, beating even WBZ. As far as I know, it was the first and only time they did that. In the 12+ book in that period they were #3, behind WBZ and WMJX. I know we're not supposed to post current ratings, but hopefully it's not a problem to post past ones from a year ago. And as for staying awake, it ain't easy! Eli Polonsky On 3/6/04 8:57 AM, "Dan Strassberg" wrote: > I wasn't comparing the BBC with CNN or NECN. I don't have cable and don't > watch either one. I was comparing the BBC with NPR's own news and that of > the CBC, which I consider just about right in tone--except, for example, > when Saddam Hussein was apprehended and NPR went to all Saddam 24/7 for how > may days? In that case, I think the answer to the question "Hussein?" was > "Certainly NOT NPR." Apparently some news junkies come across with big $$$ > for NPR and NPR feels that in special situations, the more time they devote > to news, the more $$$ will flow in. People who think that there was a need > for Saddam 24/7 may (on average) have lots of money, but that doesn't stop > them from being airheads. Maybe expanding the TOH news from 5 minutes to 10 > with 1-minute headline updates at :30 would have been justified. What NPR > did actually demeaned the value of news by creating a memory of the endless > vapid vamping and filling. It was lousy news reporting and even worse radio. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Mar 6 13:04:52 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Mar 6 13:05:17 2004 Subject: "Savvy Traveler" Waves Goodbye Message-ID: >DATE: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 12:51:14 >From: Eli Polonsky >To: Dan Strassberg ,"A. >Joseph Ross" ,Damon Cassell >Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Well, without giving any personal opinion, I will mention that, for >what it's worth, in last winter's book during that expanded Iraq war >coverage, WBUR came in #1 in the 25-54 demo in the Boston Arbitrons, >beating even WBZ. As far as I know, it was the first and only time >they did that. In the 12+ book in that period they were #3, behind >WBZ and WMJX. I know we're not supposed to post current ratings, but >hopefully it's not a problem to post past ones from a year ago. > >And as for staying awake, it ain't easy! > >Eli Polonsky > > Speaking of ratings for PublicRadio stations, the other day I tried using rrconline.org for Philadelphia area ratings in connection with another board. Rrconline.org loaded ok and SEEMED to operate in its usual quirky way (i.e. you would create a 'query' first, then click on 'RUN', just like the old minicomputer days), but instead of getting the latest public radio Arbs for Philadelphia, it just displayed some random cities. Does anybody know if this is now just a phantom website, and if so, where else one could go for Public Radio ratings of the nature one gets at rronline.com and in the newspapers. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Mar 6 14:54:03 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Mar 6 14:54:20 2004 Subject: Metropolitan Opera Broadcasts Renewed For One More Season Message-ID: Donations totalling 7-million dollars have enabled the Metropolitan Opera Company to announce that the 2004-2005 season of live Saturday matinees will be broadcast nationwide (the U.S. that is) and in other parts of the world. This was speculated on a few classical music and opera websites and in the New York Times at least, but confirmed by Beverly Greenough during today's (03/06) first intermission feature. To avoid the vicissitudes and vagaries of economic cycles, The Met is attempting to raise 150-million dollars as a permanent endowment so the broadcasts can continue until the end of radio broadcasting as we now know it. Speculation: as a result of the uncertainty of future carriage of the operas, some stations now part of the network may have made other plans (or more pernicious, regarded this as an EXCUSE to drop The Met.) Also, the opera company plans to take a couple of weeks off in mid-winter. The network will either go on hiatus, requiring stations to fill about 4 hours a few Saturday afternoons, or the source, i.e. the Metropolitan Opera Network, will have to provide some programming, perhaps recordings of either broadcasts from previous seasons, or of performances that occurred between the season opening usually in late September thru the first week in December. The problem with either is that The Met has required all stations (except Alaska, Hawaii and foreign countries) to carry every note LIVE, even though a Wagnerian opera could start at 9:00 am on the West Coast. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. However, in my case, it's of little moment since there's not an FM station I receive clearly enough for extended listening in stereo that carries the broadcasts. When there's an opera I DEFINITELY want to hear, I'll just have to go to NYC to hear it live (it's already happened so far this season). Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Mar 6 15:43:55 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat Mar 6 15:44:00 2004 Subject: Metropolitan Opera Broadcasts Renewed For One More Season In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040306154147.027139a0@mail.mac.com> At 02:54 PM 3/6/2004, Laurence Glavin wrote: > However, >in my case, it's of little moment since there's not an FM station I >receive clearly enough for extended listening >in stereo that carries the broadcasts. >When there's an opera I DEFINITELY want to hear, I'll >just have to go to NYC to hear it live (it's already >happened so far this season). > >Laurence Glavin You can hear it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From billo@shoreham.net Sat Mar 6 15:51:32 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Mar 6 15:51:57 2004 Subject: Bow to Stern Message-ID: <000401c403bc$cf59f290$0200a8c0@boneill> Is Stern stunting with regard to pending potential FCC fines against Viacom? >From a purely business standpoint, wouldn't it take a boatload more of trouble, fiscally, for Viacom to dump the highly rated morning show? Satellite radio discussed on Stern Friday. XM is a CC property. But...Sirius is in need of a major shot in the arm. A paucity of business compared to XM. Even if Stern went to Sirius, I don't think terrestrial radio would have too much to worry about. Until all cars have satellite integrated into the dash like FM did in the 70s, it would be a minor league long shot for the highly compensated team. Bill O'Neill From scott@fybush.com Sat Mar 6 16:14:32 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat Mar 6 16:08:44 2004 Subject: Bow to Stern In-Reply-To: <000401c403bc$cf59f290$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040306161331.0347aac0@gwind.pair.com> At 03:51 PM 3/6/2004 -0500, Bill O'Neill wrote: >Satellite radio discussed on Stern Friday. XM is a CC property. No it isn't. CC owns about 5% of XM's outstanding shares, and Randall Mays sits on the XM board, but that's about the extent of it. s From billo@shoreham.net Sat Mar 6 16:16:53 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Mar 6 16:17:04 2004 Subject: Bow to Stern In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040306161331.0347aac0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <001401c403c0$5a26c170$0200a8c0@boneill> > CC owns about 5% of XM's outstanding shares, and Randall Mays > sits on the > XM board, but that's about the extent of it. > > s Hmm... now that could be interesting... Stern joked that he'd even show up and help people install satellite radio in their cars to show them how easy it is. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Sat Mar 6 16:28:26 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Mar 6 16:28:40 2004 Subject: Radio Original Message-ID: <001c01c403c1$f71eaa50$0200a8c0@boneill> I've commented on this before, but we're fortunate here in Vermont for WDEV (96.1//550). Music to Go to the Dump By is heard from 9-10 on Saturday mornings. Hosted by the owner, Kenny Squier. Some stuff overheard: What do you call a cow playing the violin? Fiddler on the hoof. Real ads in local papers: Free Yorkshire Terrier. Hateful little dog. Bites. Free puppies. Half Cocker Spaniel, half sneaky neighbor's dog. Found. Dirty white dog. Looks like a rat. Been there for a while. Better be an award. Snowblower for sale. Only used on snowy days. Nice parachute. Never opened. Joining nudist colony. Must sell washer-dryer. Open house. Body shapers toning salon. Free coffee and donuts. For sale by owner. Complete set of Encyclopedia Brittanica. Got married lasts month. Wife knows everything. "Farmer Dave" called in to say he's still in the race for Governor of Vermont running under the Unified Cow Party. He's up to forty dollars in his campaign chest and feels that's all he's going to need to get him to Montpelier. It won't get him elected, but it will certainly get him to Montpelier. And twenty dollars left over for a fishing license. "We want to gravel the interstate again." He added, "As governor, I'll work with the federal government to bring global warming to Vermont. We deserve our fair share. And, we are not going to fix the roads. We will give every Vermonter a nice new set of Gabriel shocks for their car." A man walks into a bar with a slab of asphault under his arm. "A beer please...and one for the road." Long live local radio (what's left of it.) Bill O'Neill Shoreham, Addison County, Vermont From sid@wrko.com Sat Mar 6 17:30:39 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat Mar 6 17:34:26 2004 Subject: Bow to Stern Message-ID: >>XM is a CC property.<< At this point, the above statement fits neatly the definition of "urban legend." CC owns less than 2% of XM. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From steveord@bit-net.com Sat Mar 6 17:59:52 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Mar 6 17:58:08 2004 Subject: Bow to Stern In-Reply-To: <000401c403bc$cf59f290$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040306175226.009f0130@pop3.bit-net.com> Bill O'Neill wrote: >Satellite radio discussed on Stern Friday. XM is a CC property. >But...Sirius is >in need of a major shot in the arm. A paucity of business compared to >XM. Even >if Stern went to Sirius, I don't think terrestrial radio would have too >much to >worry about. Until all cars have satellite integrated into the dash like >FM did >in the 70s, it would be a minor league long shot for the highly compensated >team. While there is much hype as to how satellite radio is the fastest growing new technology ever, the fact remains that only a very small percentage of the population has it, or is likely to get it anytime soon. Stern probably has more listeners on his flagship alone than there are total XM subscribers. No doubt some will get receivers in order to hear their hero, but I'd guess that his audience on either XM or Sirius will be pretty small for many years. Neither service is anywhere near profitable...I doubt there'd be sufficient return on investment to justify the high cost. Also...how much you wanna bet that satellite and cable will come under some sort of content oversight as part of the whole Superbowl/Janet flap? If there's one thing Stern does well it's making himself look like he's being persecuted. I bet he's crying all the way to the bank. From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Mar 6 18:10:11 2004 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Sat Mar 6 18:10:22 2004 Subject: Bow to Stern References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040306175226.009f0130@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <000701c403d0$2da49c20$6500a8c0@tony> I would get satellite radio if I didn't have such a great CD [and slowly, album burned to CD] collection. I think it is a pretty neat technology even if it is subscription-based. Since I spend three hours or more a day in my car, the radio gets real boring, real fast. However, can they really regulate what goes out on the satellite and cable? So long as there is a disclaimer. I recall that HBO used to not run R-rated movies until after 8 p.m. I don't know when that rule went out the door. But before we got rid of it, there was R-rated stuff on all day long. As an aside, did anyone see the NYT story about teen pregnancy rates being the lowest it has been since they have documented it? Sure, I think it is easy to say the country has some serious "moral" problems none of which have anything to do with Janet flashing boob. But, this is a pretty good sign, isn't it? Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Bow to Stern > > While there is much hype as to how satellite radio is the fastest growing > new technology ever, the fact remains that only a very small percentage of > the population has it, or is likely to get it anytime soon. Stern probably > has more listeners on his flagship alone than there are total XM > subscribers. No doubt some will get receivers in order to hear their hero, > but I'd guess that his audience on either XM or Sirius will be pretty small > for many years. Neither service is anywhere near profitable...I doubt > there'd be sufficient return on investment to justify the high cost. > > Also...how much you wanna bet that satellite and cable will come under some > sort of content oversight as part of the whole Superbowl/Janet flap? > > If there's one thing Stern does well it's making himself look like he's > being persecuted. I bet he's crying all the way to the bank. > From hinsdalien@yahoo.com Sun Mar 7 01:17:27 2004 From: hinsdalien@yahoo.com (Doug Bassett) Date: Sun Mar 7 01:17:36 2004 Subject: Sherburne vs Killington, a big part of the story missing. In-Reply-To: <20040303233227.73227.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040307061727.17411.qmail@web14901.mail.yahoo.com> --- John Bolduc wrote: > In regards to news coverage of Sherburne/Killington > VT the vote for > secession from VT. > > No news reports have mentioned this historical > tidbit [regarding the name change of the town] > and if I'm correct, they are calling the town by > it's incorrect name. > > Can anybody update me? The voters of Killington (then known as Sherburne, and previously known as Killington) approved the name change on March 2, 1999. The Vermont Legislature approved the name change from Sherburne to Killington April 27, 1999. You can read the details at: http://www.leg.state.vt.us/DOCS/2000/ACTS/ACTM003.HTM I'm sure that the Legislature won't move that quick to approve Killington residents' apparent desire to become a part of the Granite State. For those who may not have heard, voters at Killington's recent town meeting voted in favor of secession from Vermont by a roughly two-to-one margin. I wonder how much of a reduction in property taxes Killington property owners would see if the town were to become part of New Hampshire. My gut feeling is not much. On the subject of broadcasting, Killington is the community of license for two broadcasters: WEBK (105.3) and TV translator W18AE. Transmitter facilities for several other broadcasters are located within the town limits as well, including WVER, WZRT, WJJR, and WHDQ-1 (if I'm not mistaken. One or more of these sites may actually be located in the neighboring town of Mendon). Doug Bassett Brattleboro, VT __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From steveord@bit-net.com Sun Mar 7 09:20:37 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Mar 7 09:18:57 2004 Subject: Sherburne vs Killington, a big part of the story missing. In-Reply-To: <20040307061727.17411.qmail@web14901.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040303233227.73227.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040307091719.00a109f0@pop3.bit-net.com> Doug Bassett wrote: >I'm sure that the Legislature won't move that quick to >approve Killington residents' apparent desire to >become a part of the Granite State. For those who may >not have heard, voters at Killington's recent town >meeting voted in favor of secession from Vermont by a >roughly two-to-one margin. I wonder how much of a >reduction in property taxes Killington property owners >would see if the town were to become part of New >Hampshire. My gut feeling is not much. Yeah, our property taxes are pretty high here too. About the only thing that would lower cost of living is if a significant # of Killington residents worked in either Killington itself or in N.H. would be elimination of state income tax. From billo@shoreham.net Sun Mar 7 13:36:37 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Mar 7 13:36:50 2004 Subject: Bow to Stern In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040306175226.009f0130@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <000301c40473$2085b440$0200a8c0@boneill> > Also...how much you wanna bet that satellite and cable will > come under some > sort of content oversight as part of the whole Superbowl/Janet flap? The Janet Flap. There's a new twist. I suspect the FCC would get nowhere with against the argument that people pay direct dollars for the subscription. But it should be an interesting battle, if waged. > If there's one thing Stern does well it's making himself look > like he's > being persecuted. I bet he's crying all the way to the bank. Clearly. A highly compensated entertainer, he, nor his offspring, would ever need to punch a clock again and still live on the top of the heap. The next generation that was derived from Stern's trailblazing have almost made it so that Howard is a caricature of himself. He must be wondering if it is really dog track time. A chance to go out on top? Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Mar 7 13:40:28 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Mar 7 13:40:36 2004 Subject: Bow to Stern References: <000301c40473$2085b440$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <000f01c40473$a9a5c4e0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> > > Also...how much you wanna bet that satellite and cable will > > come under some > > sort of content oversight as part of the whole Superbowl/Janet flap? Does anyone really want this to happen? Would the Sopranos be as good if Tony couldn't use the F word and the girls at the Bada-Bong club had to wear bikinis? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billo@shoreham.net Sun Mar 7 13:51:43 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Mar 7 13:52:01 2004 Subject: Bow to Stern In-Reply-To: <000f01c40473$a9a5c4e0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000d01c40475$3ca4bb10$0200a8c0@boneill> Dan wonders: > Does anyone really want this to happen? Would the Sopranos > be as good if > Tony couldn't use the F word and the girls at the Bada-Bong > club had to wear > bikinis? Didn't realize how much culture I was actually missing not being an HBO subscriber. All I can say it, thank goodness Phyllis Diller was pre-cable. Oh, the humanity. Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Mar 7 13:59:49 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Mar 7 13:59:54 2004 Subject: Bow to Stern References: <000d01c40475$3ca4bb10$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <001e01c40476$5e056380$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "'Dan Billings'" ; "'SteveOrdinetz'" ; Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 1:51 PM Subject: RE: Bow to Stern > Didn't realize how much culture I was actually missing not being an HBO > subscriber. All I can say it, thank goodness Phyllis Diller was pre-cable. Oh, > the humanity. Your attempts at humor might improve with more contemporary cultural references. ;-) But seriously -- what is the argument for government regulation of satellite or pay cable TV? One had to take an affirmative step to have the programming in their home and must pay a fee every month. Unlike broadcast TV and radio, or even basic cable, it is not something that you can accidentally stumble upon. Most cable boxtops also come with a very simple feature to lock out certain channels to keep kids from seeing them. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billo@shoreham.net Sun Mar 7 14:10:09 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Mar 7 14:10:21 2004 Subject: Bow to Stern In-Reply-To: <001e01c40476$5e056380$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000101c40477$cff75a10$0200a8c0@boneill> > Your attempts at humor might improve with more contemporary cultural > references. ;-) > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine Ah, Dan, but then the pre-cable reference would not work, my friend. Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Mar 7 19:24:47 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Mar 7 19:24:53 2004 Subject: Article on WJTO Message-ID: <002a01c404a3$c3ab4ba0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> The Coastal Journal today had a story on the history of and current programming of WJTO. The Coastal Journal is published by the same company that publishes the Maine Sunday Telegram and the Portland Press Herald and the Journal is inserted in the Sunday Telegram in the midcoast area on Sundays, as well as being free on news stands. The article detailed the history of the station and noted that today's format is similar to the station's format when it first went on the air. The article is not online so I can't provide a link, but it was a good plug for Bob's station. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From twointhehat@juno.com Sun Mar 7 19:57:53 2004 From: twointhehat@juno.com (l. lee) Date: Sun Mar 7 20:00:46 2004 Subject: problem Message-ID: <20040307.195755.-16197355.2.twointhehat@juno.com> I want to keep getting the group, what do I have to do? From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Mon Mar 8 13:07:28 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Mar 8 13:07:37 2004 Subject: Vermont Transport LPFMs Message-ID: <20040308180728.88707.qmail@web60810.mail.yahoo.com> I mentioned earlier that the Vermont Agency of Transport got a bunch of LPFM licenses. This weekend I went up there and noticed one of them was on: WRAN-LP 100.1. It had a loop of brief music, then some basic facts/trivia about Vermont followed by a traffic advisory (bridge work somewhere). Kind of a TIS type station. 100000watts.com lists the Randolph station as being 6 w from 515 ft. Other LPFM stations owned by the agency are 100 watts; the one in West Dover would be 100 watts from 1,619 feet. From dwcole@comcast.net Mon Mar 8 13:49:03 2004 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Mon Mar 8 13:49:31 2004 Subject: Pirate operator fined Message-ID: <000501c4053e$07360af0$61f29318@HP310n> Interesting article on another one of those bozo brains who run pirate operations. This one got slapped pretty good by Uncle Charlie. Link below is to Lewiston Sun Journal: http://www.sunjournal.com/story.asp?slg=030804radio Dan Cole From markwats@comcast.net Mon Mar 8 19:01:48 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon Mar 8 19:01:57 2004 Subject: Viacom O & O's Dump "Martha Stewart Living" Message-ID: <004c01c40569$b874e4f0$64f88018@markscomputer> Just saw a report on ABC's "World News Tonight" that the Viacom has pulled "Martha Stewart Living" off all of it's owned & operated TV stations, which would include WBZ-TV (Channel 4, a/k/a CBS 4) Boston. This action in the wake of her conviction this past Friday in her stock case. Will this start a domino effect with other TV outlets dumping her show? Mark Watson From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Mar 8 17:40:38 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Mar 8 19:40:46 2004 Subject: Viacom O & O's Dump "Martha Stewart Living" Message-ID: <200403081740.AA4134338792@mail.ttlc.net> "Mark Watson" noted: > [snip] Viacom has pulled "Martha Stewart Living" off all of it's >owned & operated TV stations, which would include WBZ-TV (Channel 4, >a/k/a CBS 4) Boston. [snip] Will this start a domino effect with other >TV outlets dumping her show? Will WBZ Newsradio 1030 drop their Martha Stewart weekend features? From rickganley@juno.com Mon Mar 8 21:12:49 2004 From: rickganley@juno.com (Rick A Ganley) Date: Mon Mar 8 21:29:13 2004 Subject: "Bozo Pirates" Message-ID: <20040308.211250.868.1.rickganley@juno.com> So a man is a "bozo brain" for running a glorified Mr. Microphone and making a point about corporate radio; He played non-offensive material... interfered with no one... and turned it down to part 15 levels when asked. BTW, Dan, said "Bozo" has two business degrees, runs a couple very successful companies and is one hell of a brother to me. We also spent two years "fighting the good fight" at WDME. He knew he's lose... it was the point that counted. I've been proud of my brother for many things over the years... this is just one more example for me. So, Dan, how much time, energy and $$$ are you willing to part with to make a statement for what you believe? Do your research before you blow your mouth off, sir. -Rick Ganley ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Mar 8 21:38:50 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon Mar 8 21:38:54 2004 Subject: "Bozo Pirates" References: <20040308.211250.868.1.rickganley@juno.com> Message-ID: <003901c4057f$a810b830$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> I agree with Mr. Cole. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Mar 9 08:35:33 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Mar 9 08:33:52 2004 Subject: "Bozo Pirates" In-Reply-To: <20040308.211250.868.1.rickganley@juno.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040309083114.00a11670@pop3.bit-net.com> Rick A Ganley wrote: >So a man is a "bozo brain" for running a glorified Mr. Microphone and >making a point about corporate radio; > >He played non-offensive material... interfered with no one... and turned >it down to part 15 levels when asked. That's the part I didn't understand. Why was he busted by the FCC if he was running a legal Part 15 operation? They can't seem to shut down rfb who blatantly thumbs it's nose at the government, but this guy gets taken to the cleaners. Is there more to this story than meets the eye? From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue Mar 9 08:48:22 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue Mar 9 08:48:42 2004 Subject: Chaotic Sound Bites Message-ID: <000d01c405dd$369f3010$6500a8c0@brianhome> I'm in need of some chaotic sounding "disaster in process" type sound bites (ie. non-descript reporter chatter, sirens, scanner noise, etc) to use as an intro and background for a PSA that I'm working on for a disaster relief organization. Does anyone have a good source for these, or better, something lying around that I could use? Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 75 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5626 USA Sales: (800)231-8849/Sales Fax (800)329-2775 Bus Ofc +1-978-538-7575/Business Ofc Fax +1-978-538-7550 www.cssinc.com From pete@partnercomm.com Tue Mar 9 09:19:11 2004 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Tue Mar 9 09:19:17 2004 Subject: "Bozo Pirates" In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040309083114.00a11670@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: Part 15 FM broadcasting has nothing to do with power levels, only field strength (the figures 250uV @ 3m come to mind). If the numbers and pictoral evidence provided in the article indicate anything, it is that he exceeded those numbers - by a longshot. We don't know enough to be able to judge who was right or wrong here. The FCC appears to think they have cause. If their engineering staff did not find him exceeding the established maximum field strength allowed (by a reasonable amount), it is unlikely they would go to the trouble. Somebody complained enough to get their attention! -Peter Murray (N3IXY) Pittsburgh, PA From fox893@yahoo.com Tue Mar 9 10:01:34 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Tue Mar 9 10:01:47 2004 Subject: "Bozo Pirates" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040309150134.32218.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> > right or wrong here. The > FCC appears to think they have cause. If their > engineering staff did not > find him exceeding the established maximum field > strength allowed (by a > reasonable amount), it is unlikely they would go to > the trouble. > It is potentially possible that, even though he was operating within part 15 of the regs, he was (unknowingly??) interfering with someone else's equipment(radio, TV, HAM...). Can someone repost the link to that newspaper story? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From radiofreak@4motion.org Tue Mar 9 11:43:54 2004 From: radiofreak@4motion.org (Damon Cassell) Date: Tue Mar 9 11:43:57 2004 Subject: "Bozo Pirates" In-Reply-To: <003901c4057f$a810b830$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, Dan Billings wrote: > I agree with Mr. Cole. I agree with Mr. Ganley. It's been established that pirate radio station operators are generally disliked by list members, but "bozo brains" is a little silly. Anyone who goes through the trouble and aggravation of setting up a pirate station has to have a pretty serious interest in radio, so I feel bad for the guy. I consider radio listening (AM, FM, shortwave) a hobby and pirate radio stations are undeniably an intriguing part of the history, past and present, of radio. I know most on the list would feel a lot better (and I am not sure why) if these stations never existed. Obviously, many people on the list earn a meal ticket from commercial radio stations. Maybe this is why. Or maybe, a lot of folks on the list are just threatened by something that violates the status quo. But for me, they are just one of the things that makes radio interesting. And it certainly is pretty difficult to maintain an interest in an era where radio stations are essentially terrestrial repeaters for satellite-fed corporate radio and the cliched and sanitized stuff it produces. I believe in an evolutionary theory of radio. It evolved as a result of experimenters and enthusiasts, picked up momentum and became an anarchic medium, tamed by government regulation only later, but never quite shedding itself of people who will always challenge the prevailing wisdom of the corporations that ultimately crawled onto land. You can try to eliminate these types, but I think radio would be the poorer for it. My mind, at least. -d From hmadjid@yahoo.com Tue Mar 9 12:15:14 2004 From: hmadjid@yahoo.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Tue Mar 9 12:15:30 2004 Subject: Alistair Cooke Message-ID: <20040309171514.56435.qmail@web80007.mail.yahoo.com> I'm suprised that no one on this list has yet mentioned Alistair Cooke has retired after nearly six decades of broadcasting Letter from America. Of course, Cooke's Letter from America could be heard in Boston on WBUR's overnight BBC World Service broadcasts. I guess to American radio and TV listeners and viewers, Cooke is better remembered as the host of Masterpiece Theatre, and the 'Alistair Cooke's America' documentary series during the Bicentennial. ===== 73, de Hakim (N1ZFF) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com From hmadjid@yahoo.com Tue Mar 9 12:19:38 2004 From: hmadjid@yahoo.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Tue Mar 9 12:19:45 2004 Subject: Dick Pleasants Message-ID: <20040309171938.48336.qmail@web80005.mail.yahoo.com> How come also no one has mentioned on here that Dick Pleasants is leaving WGBH after well over 2 decades on the air at the station? He will however continue his WUMB show. ===== 73, de Hakim (N1ZFF) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue Mar 9 15:36:50 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue Mar 9 15:37:19 2004 Subject: PSA sfx In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c40616$40d514d0$c3ec33d1@alvin> > > Brian, > > first off: hey and howdy... hope you're doing well. And a "howdy-ho" to you. > > on the PSA, you'll be hard-pressed to get airplay on > something featuring > sirens/alarms. you'd be better off with some scattered, > simulated "emergency radio chatter" type stuff. That's actually exactly what I'm looking for. > http://www.grsites.com/sounds/emergency001.shtml (i found it on Yahoo! in about 4 seconds...) Most of this stuff is just sirens and bells. The reporter chatter is more of what I'm looking for. Thanks for the link though. I especially liked the sfx called "Woman experiencing pleasure". Don't hear that often enough... Thanks again for your help. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Mar 9 15:42:34 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue Mar 9 15:42:38 2004 Subject: Vermont Transport LPFMs In-Reply-To: <20040308180728.88707.qmail@web60810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040309204234.91780.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> This sounds like an upgrade to their system of micro power FM stations you could find along major roads, typically at rest areas. It's been about six years since I've been to a Vermont rest area to hear one. The power was so low by time you got up to highway speed leaving the rest area, the signal was totally gone. The audio and production quality was good, though. The rest area provided a pamphlet with details including frequencies and locations, but nothing indicating power levels. John East Derry --- Bob Nelson wrote: > I mentioned earlier that the Vermont Agency of > Transport got a bunch of LPFM licenses. This weekend I > went up there and noticed one of them was on: > WRAN-LP 100.1. It had a loop of brief music, then > some basic facts/trivia about Vermont followed by a > traffic advisory (bridge work somewhere). Kind of a > TIS type station. > > 100000watts.com lists the Randolph station as being 6 > w from 515 ft. Other LPFM stations owned by the > agency are 100 watts; the one in West Dover would be > 100 watts from 1,619 feet. ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From markwats@comcast.net Tue Mar 9 16:15:04 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue Mar 9 16:15:13 2004 Subject: Dick Pleasants References: <20040309171938.48336.qmail@web80005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003501c4061b$97d74e10$64f88018@markscomputer> Hakim Madjid wrote: > How come also no one has mentioned on here that Dick > Pleasants is leaving WGBH after well over 2 decades on > the air at the station? It was posted here last week, I forget who posted it however. While on the subject of Dick Pleasants, I'm curious if his retirement from WGBH-FM will mean the end of their annual Saturday broadcast of the Lowell Folk Festival. Pleasants hosted this broadcast, which was a special edition of his weekly "Folk Heritage" show. Mark Watson From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Mar 9 17:05:58 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Mar 9 17:06:28 2004 Subject: "Bozo Pirates" Message-ID: >DATE: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 07:01:34 >From: Cooper Fox >To: Peter Murray >Cc: bri@bostonradio.org > >Can someone repost the link to that newspaper story? > Thid would be a good time to remind BRIGgers that the new improved archives contain original URL's and the links if they're still 'alive'. Just go to www.bostonradio.org scroll down the the "check out the archives' phrase, then go to March 2004...SUBJECT...and "Pirate Operator Fined". The article was still there minutes ago. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From miscon@miscon.net Tue Mar 9 17:10:38 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Tue Mar 9 17:09:34 2004 Subject: Lowell Folk Fest (was: Dick Pleasants) Message-ID: <200403091710.AA116064426@miscon.net> Mark Watson pondered: "While on the subject of Dick Pleasants, I'm curious if his retirement from WGBH-FM will mean the end of their annual Saturday broadcast of the Lowell Folk Festival. Pleasants hosted this broadcast, which was a special edition of his weekly "Folk Heritage" show." I've been told by a member of WGBH's radio managment that the Lowell Folk Festival "has become a tradition," and that the required equipment and manpower has already been allocated for 2004 and 2005. The broadcast is bigger than any one person it seems, and it also appears that A Celtic Sojourn's Brian O'Donovan will have a larger part in upcoming Folk Festical hosting duties. Mike From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Mar 9 19:06:47 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue Mar 9 19:06:52 2004 Subject: Dick Pleasants In-Reply-To: <20040309171938.48336.qmail@web80005.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040309171938.48336.qmail@web80005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040309190558.0268ead0@mail.mac.com> At 12:19 PM 3/9/04, Hakim Madjid wrote: >How come also no one has mentioned on here that Dick >Pleasants is leaving WGBH after well over 2 decades on >the air at the station? > >He will however continue his WUMB show. > We did discuss that very subject here, last week or the week before. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From RogerKola@aol.com Tue Mar 9 19:25:39 2004 From: RogerKola@aol.com (RogerKola@aol.com) Date: Tue Mar 9 19:25:49 2004 Subject: Pirate operator fined Message-ID: <110.2f279d7e.2d7fba83@aol.com> The origin of this gentleman's real problems probably started here: http://www.hallikainen.com/lpfm/comments/Portland.html Notice the number of channels each side he was supposedly interfering with..... Must have been a really wide signal!.... Roger WA1KAT From beckwith@ime.net Tue Mar 9 19:26:45 2004 From: beckwith@ime.net (Chris Beckwith) Date: Tue Mar 9 20:11:40 2004 Subject: Viacom O & O's Dump "Martha Stewart Living" References: <200403081740.AA4134338792@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <003401c4063c$a2c6abb0$8021a78e@PHOENIX> WBZ Radio announced yesterday that its "Ask Martha" feature has been dropped. It would seem likely that "Martha Stewart Living" will be dropped by its syndicator King World (a Viacom subsidiary) though there has been no official announcement. Take care, Chris From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Tue Mar 9 20:35:18 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Tue Mar 9 20:35:23 2004 Subject: Pirate operator fined Message-ID: <200403092035.AA121569430@mail.ttlc.net> RogerKola@aol.com wrote: >Notice the number of channels each side he was supposedly interfering >with..... >Must have been a really wide signal!.... I must beg to differ. Carefully reading the letter you reference, I noted the judicious use of the words "It can interfere with two local stations at 96.9 and 97.9." While it was capable of interfering with those signals, it does not state that it actually was, in fact, interfering with them. Plus, frequency stability of the pirate (a possible factor in interference) appears not to have been measured. Secondly, I question the statement "but generally it's operating at 1 watt." Lacking access to the current and voltage of the transmitter's final, I question that statement's credibility. I am, however, open to engineering explanations from those gathered here who are quite likely more technically versed than I. IIRC, as has been noted here, that field strength at a specified distance from the antenna is one verifiable factor considered when judging a radio station's coverage. And curiously, that measurement was not noted in the complaint. Because it was a pirate, it was a legally justifiable complaint and I have no quibble with that. But the fact that it came from an apparently non-engineering manager with no references to actual engineering measurements doesn't appear to support the theory that he was causing actual harm. I could be wrong and your mileage may vary. Comments please from le gallery des legumes. Respectfully yours, Another Roger From beckwith@ime.net Tue Mar 9 23:51:12 2004 From: beckwith@ime.net (Chris Beckwith) Date: Tue Mar 9 23:51:41 2004 Subject: Pirate operator fined References: <200403092035.AA121569430@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <002701c4065b$5252b880$6400a8c0@PHOENIX> Not only did his signal interfere with duly licensed FM stations, harmonics from his home-brew transmitter wreaked havoc with at least one cellular system. And no way does a quarter of a watt reach from Munjoy Hill to the Maine Mall. Take care, Chris From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Wed Mar 10 01:12:59 2004 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Wed Mar 10 01:13:12 2004 Subject: Pirate operator fined In-Reply-To: <002701c4065b$5252b880$6400a8c0@PHOENIX> Message-ID: <20040310061259.70570.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com> Or the top of Blackstrap Hill in Falmouth where the signal had also been heard. Assuming we are talking about the same situation -Somewhere along the way, this facility was operating on (if memory serves me) 88.7. Somewhat too close for comfort to WCSH-TV Channel 6's audio. That would seemed to have stirred the legal fire. Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA --- Chris Beckwith wrote: > Not only did his signal interfere with duly licensed > FM stations, harmonics from > his home-brew transmitter wreaked havoc with at > least one cellular system. And > no way does a quarter of a watt reach from Munjoy > Hill to the Maine Mall. > > Take care, > Chris > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Wed Mar 10 03:21:38 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Mar 10 03:21:46 2004 Subject: Vermont Transport LPFMs In-Reply-To: <20040309204234.91780.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040310082138.11645.qmail@web60803.mail.yahoo.com> --- John Bolduc wrote: > This sounds like an upgrade to their system of micro > power FM stations you > could find along major roads, typically at rest > areas. > > It's been about six years since I've been to a > Vermont rest area to hear > one. The power was so low by time you got up to > highway speed leaving the > rest area, the signal was totally gone. Seems better now-- I drove by the Randolph rest area (which was temp. closed) and could still get it a mile or so down the road, maybe even a couple of miles away... They used to have several of these tied in to their rest areas but got rid of them. Now they're back as LPFMs. The audio > and production quality > was good, though. The rest area provided a pamphlet > with details > including frequencies and locations, but nothing > indicating power levels. Similar to what I've heard in New York State (audio quality, etc.) and we even have some here in Mass., don't we? 530 AM, 1610 AM along Mass Pike (traveler's info stations) --Bob From sid.whitaker@unh.edu Wed Mar 10 10:38:11 2004 From: sid.whitaker@unh.edu (Sid Whitaker) Date: Wed Mar 10 11:43:29 2004 Subject: Pirate operator fined In-Reply-To: <20040310061259.70570.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040310061259.70570.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1078933091.404f3663415fe@webmail.unh.edu> IIRC, he was on 97.3, sandwiched between the 96.9 translator in downtown Portland and 'Q' 97.9. There are licensed stations on 88.3 (WYAR Yarmouth) and the 88.5 in Sanford, whose calls escape me. A woman I worked with at the time heard the 97.3 pirate from her home in Yarmouth and had it in the car all the way down to Portland. Someone else caught it in South Portland, on Rt. 77 toward the Cape Elizabeth line (well away from the Maine Mall). I'm not surprised at the reception on Blackstrap; it's line of sight to just about everything on the Back Cove side of the Portland peninsula. I was living in the West End back in the fall of '97, just a few blocks from the apartment where the station was operating, and remember seeing the antenna mounted outside an upstairs window on an apartment building. I can't remember how long the station was on the air, but I believe it was several weeks. Sid Whitaker Quoting Roy Lawrence : > Or the top of Blackstrap Hill in Falmouth where the > signal had also been heard. > > Assuming we are talking about the same situation > -Somewhere along the way, this facility was operating > on (if memory serves me) 88.7. Somewhat too close for > comfort to WCSH-TV Channel 6's audio. That would > seemed to have stirred the legal fire. > > Roy Lawrence > San Francisco, CA From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Wed Mar 10 12:06:04 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Wed Mar 10 12:06:49 2004 Subject: Pirate operator fined Message-ID: <200403101206.AA20513096@mail.ttlc.net> "Chris Beckwith" opines: >Not only did his signal interfere with duly licensed FM stations, >harmonics from his home-brew transmitter wreaked havoc with at least >one cellular system. And no way does a quarter of a watt reach from >Munjoy Hill to the Maine Mall. This is beyond what I have read so far. Whence this new information? From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Wed Mar 10 13:00:05 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Mar 10 13:00:14 2004 Subject: BRW: 'RKO has new progressive talk show on Sat. nights Message-ID: <20040310180005.19731.qmail@web60807.mail.yahoo.com> Boston Radio Watch reports that WRKO will have a new talk show with a progressive (I guess Liberal's a dirty word now!) viewpoint, Saturdays from 7 to 9 pm. "Counterpoint" will be hosted by the likes of Warren Tolman and Marge Clapprood (up in talk show heaven, Jerry is still complaining about how he had to put up with her cigarette smoke in the studios...) http://commons.somewhere.com/bostonrw/2004/Boston.Radio.Watch.--.032.html From billo@shoreham.net Wed Mar 10 13:02:27 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Mar 10 13:03:05 2004 Subject: The Dish on Viacom Message-ID: <003d01c406c9$dbe1fbb0$0200a8c0@boneill> So there you have it. EchoStar pulling the plug on top market CBS locals along with MTVs, Comedy Central, Nick, and other basic cable offerings due to a disagreement with Viacom over pricing. I wonder if (potentially) 9 million fewer views to sponsors' spots will be a driver on this issue's resolution? Bill O'Neill From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Wed Mar 10 15:30:14 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Wed Mar 10 15:30:24 2004 Subject: The Dish on Viacom In-Reply-To: <003d01c406c9$dbe1fbb0$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <20040310203014.31335.qmail@web12821.mail.yahoo.com> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:02:27 Bill O'Neill wrote: > So there you have it. EchoStar pulling the plug on > top market CBS locals along > with MTVs, Comedy Central, Nick, and other basic > cable offerings due to a > disagreement with Viacom over pricing. I'm surprised this issue took this long to get posted to this list. Were it not for a major midtern exam I had last night, I would've made a post about this earlier. I noticed about a week ago that Viacom started inserting crawls on all of their owned channels that they were being pulled off of EchoStar/Dish Network in the near future, and to call Echostar to demand that their stations be kept on the system. It appears, based on what I've read in the news, that this is another squabble about prices to carry stations that both parties have decided to go over the top about. We'll see how long this one takes to get ironed out Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY P.S - Does this removal of stations mean that CBS O&O over the air affiliates, such as WCBS-TV (2), are being pulled off of Echostar as well, or is this just the cable networks? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From kvahey@tmail.com Wed Mar 10 15:41:56 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed Mar 10 15:42:22 2004 Subject: The Dish on Viacom In-Reply-To: <20040310203014.31335.qmail@web12821.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040310203014.31335.qmail@web12821.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1078951320.2F0390F@r5.dngr.org> The graphic at wbz4.com is saying the matter is over 6 CENTS a month per dish. Now is this 6 cents per channel or 6 cents for everything? This won't take long, CBS can not afford this to happen during NCAA Hoops On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 3:37pm, Matthew Osborne wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:02:27 Bill O'Neill > wrote: >> So there you have it. EchoStar pulling the plug on >> top market CBS locals along >> with MTVs, Comedy Central, Nick, and other basic >> cable offerings due to a >> disagreement with Viacom over pricing. > > I'm surprised this issue took this long to get posted > to this list. Were it not for a major midtern exam I > had last night, I would've made a post about this > earlier. I noticed about a week ago that Viacom > started inserting crawls on all of their owned > channels that they were being pulled off of > EchoStar/Dish Network in the near future, and to call > Echostar to demand that their stations be kept on the > system. It appears, based on what I've read in the > news, that this is another squabble about prices to > carry stations that both parties have decided to go > over the top about. We'll see how long this one takes > to get ironed out > > Matt Osborne > Poughkeepsie, NY > > P.S - Does this removal of stations mean that CBS O&O > over the air affiliates, such as WCBS-TV (2), are > being pulled off of Echostar as well, or is this just > the cable networks? > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster > http://search.yahoo.com From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Wed Mar 10 16:05:17 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Mar 10 16:05:26 2004 Subject: The Dish on Viacom In-Reply-To: <20040310203014.31335.qmail@web12821.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040310210517.48864.qmail@web60801.mail.yahoo.com> Does this removal of stations mean that CBS > O&O > over the air affiliates, such as WCBS-TV (2), are > being pulled off of Echostar as well, or is this > just > the cable networks? I understand that they, too, are being pulled. It said it's happening in markets where Viacom/CBS has O & O stations, like here in Boston with WBZ/CBS 4. From kvahey@tmail.com Wed Mar 10 16:16:06 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed Mar 10 16:16:17 2004 Subject: The Dish on Viacom In-Reply-To: <20040310210517.48864.qmail@web60801.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040310210517.48864.qmail@web60801.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1078953368.21D313B8@r31.dngr.org> Does this affect WSBK and 28 in New Bedford as well? > I understand that they, too, are being pulled. It said > it's happening in markets where Viacom/CBS > has O & O stations, like here in Boston with > WBZ/CBS 4. From chaunceyjohnc@hotmail.com Wed Mar 10 17:00:25 2004 From: chaunceyjohnc@hotmail.com (chaunceyjohnc@hotmail.com) Date: Wed Mar 10 17:00:40 2004 Subject: The Dish on Viacom In-Reply-To: <1078953368.21D313B8@r31.dngr.org> Message-ID: <000001c406eb$19e55e40$6500a8c0@john> >From what I understand, the situation with WSBK is somewhat different. Because it is a SuperStation outside of the Boston market, it remains on the air. In Boston, though, where it is simply a broadcast station, it is off. (I assume... I don't have DISH). I don't believe DISH serves the Providence locals, so it is not an issue. > Does this affect WSBK and 28 in New Bedford as well? From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Mar 10 17:07:45 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Mar 10 17:08:07 2004 Subject: WSYY Tower in Jeopardy Message-ID: I came across this story in my internet travels. It's not a momentous story, but interesting. WSYY-AM 1240 near Millinocket, ME may not have a tower from which to broadcast (there's an FM up there on 94.9 I believe). Read all aboot it I mean about it (the place is crawling with Canadians) at: http://magic-city-news.com/article_1111.shtml I had the opportunity to view this tower on a whitewater rafting trip (the most fun you can have by a dam site) a few years ago; the Penobscot IIRC. There's a commercial for a brand of SUV showing guys on a trip to Class V rapids. The Penobscot has one and it was a cinch. Our raft didn't tip over partially because it had me as ballast. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From kvahey@tmail.com Wed Mar 10 17:33:52 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed Mar 10 17:46:19 2004 Subject: The Dish on Viacom In-Reply-To: <000001c406eb$19e55e40$6500a8c0@john> References: <000001c406eb$19e55e40$6500a8c0@john> Message-ID: <1078958767.61F0D1D@s5.dngr.org> Get these guys a sandbox Charles Ergen the owner of Dish Network, had operators tell customers to call Mel Karmazin and gave out his private HOME number From pete@partnercomm.com Wed Mar 10 18:07:23 2004 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Wed Mar 10 18:07:26 2004 Subject: WSYY Tower in Jeopardy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Interesting to read the (what appears to be) blatantly plagarized text in the third paragraph - from the Archives. The original (penned by Scott Fybush in what, 1996?) is here: http://www.bostonradio.org/radio/maine-hist.html And to consider that I almost bought that facility. The signal has tremendous potential, though the signal from WHOM's 48KW from 1191m ASL crushes the 24KW (from the 10-bay Shivley array on Hammond Ridge) to the west. Signals from both stations are entirely unintelligable for a good 50+ mile zone when driving up I-95 - to just north of Bangor, a market I'm quite sure they'd love to claim, but really can't, without a change in frequency (or a move south, which is impossible with the distance to Class-B WKSQ (94.5, Ellsworth). I can tell you stories about interacting with the Talbotts. I'll just say... interesting. -Peter Peter Murray (N3IXY) Pittsburgh, PA From scott@fybush.com Wed Mar 10 18:38:42 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Mar 10 18:33:01 2004 Subject: WSYY Tower in Jeopardy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040310183632.035da970@gwind.pair.com> They borrowed my facts, certainly - but facts aren't copyrightable, and they changed my wording enough that I didn't recognize it myself. No harm, no foul...though I wonder how a newspaper reporter even knows what the heck "A" and "C2" mean? I've heard WSYY in Bangor, but only with some effort and a good receiver. It's certainly not even close to being a local in that already massively over-radioed market; it can't even compare to rimshotters like WDME and WHMX. s At 06:07 PM 3/10/2004 -0500, Peter Murray wrote: >Interesting to read the (what appears to be) blatantly plagarized text in >the third paragraph - from the Archives. > >The original (penned by Scott Fybush in what, 1996?) is here: > >http://www.bostonradio.org/radio/maine-hist.html > >And to consider that I almost bought that facility. The signal has >tremendous potential, though the signal from WHOM's 48KW from 1191m ASL >crushes the 24KW (from the 10-bay Shivley array on Hammond Ridge) to the >west. Signals from both stations are entirely unintelligable for a good >50+ mile zone when driving up I-95 - to just north of Bangor, a market I'm >quite sure they'd love to claim, but really can't, without a change in >frequency (or a move south, which is impossible with the distance to >Class-B WKSQ (94.5, Ellsworth). > >I can tell you stories about interacting with the Talbotts. I'll just >say... interesting. > >-Peter > >Peter Murray (N3IXY) >Pittsburgh, PA From dwcole@comcast.net Wed Mar 10 19:12:09 2004 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Wed Mar 10 19:14:27 2004 Subject: pirate operator fined Message-ID: <000501c406fd$7ff3e780$61f29318@HP310n> I would have chimed in earlier, but haven't downloaded my e-mail for the past couple of days. It is commendable that Mr. Ganley defends his brother...but it does not make the action of operating an illegal station a justifiable act. True, early radio was the venue of all kinds of inventors and innovators. But those days are gone...radio has been regulated for decades...and that means there are rules and regulations. You can make all the statements you want about 'corporate radio"...and do it legally. A lot of extremely low power stations are on the air...and got there by following the guidelines. To put on a station that interferes with legal broadcast operations is an irresponsible act...not one of protest. And as for my putting my 'time, energy, and dollars' into what I believe.....I do it every day. I'm not in this business only for the money. :) I'm in it because ever since I built my first homemade radio when I was 9 years old and living in Newfoundland, it is what I wanted to do. And I do it legally. With respect, Dan Cole From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Mar 10 19:28:16 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Wed Mar 10 19:28:33 2004 Subject: WSYY Tower in Jeopardy References: Message-ID: <000e01c406ff$bf850710$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> This situation is different from most situations where a tower site is lost. Finding open land in the Millinocket area to put up a tower will not be a problem. The problem is whether it is economically viable to put up a tower for a station that serves an extremely rural and economically depressed area. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billo@shoreham.net Wed Mar 10 22:51:20 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Mar 10 22:51:50 2004 Subject: The Dish on Viacom In-Reply-To: <1078958767.61F0D1D@s5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <001301c4071c$1e6d1300$0200a8c0@boneill> Kevin writes: > Get these guys a sandbox > > Charles Ergen the owner of Dish Network, had operators tell > customers to > call Mel Karmazin and gave out his private HOME number If this keeps up, I could become a DirectTV customer. As if Mel doesn't have enough on his plate. Bill O'Neill From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Mar 11 02:28:47 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Mar 11 02:32:04 2004 Subject: The Dish on Viacom References: <000001c406eb$19e55e40$6500a8c0@john> Message-ID: <01b501c4073a$bfeb8f40$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Aren't most people using "DirecTV" nowadays? JP From fox893@yahoo.com Thu Mar 11 06:59:04 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Thu Mar 11 06:59:14 2004 Subject: WSYY Tower in Jeopardy In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040310183632.035da970@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <20040311115904.39213.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com> > I've heard WSYY in Bangor, but only with some effort > and a good receiver. > It's certainly not even close to being a local in > that already massively > over-radioed market; it can't even compare to > rimshotters like WDME and WHMX. > WSYY's appeal is that it is THE hometown station for that area. Like WHOU in Houtlon(ME), WFAD in Middlebury(VT) and WMWV in Mt Washington Valley(NH) is the station that everyone turns to for cancellations and local sports. If ran right, it really doesn't need to get into Bangor. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Mar 11 08:30:58 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Mar 11 08:29:24 2004 Subject: WSYY Tower in Jeopardy In-Reply-To: <20040311115904.39213.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040310183632.035da970@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040311082439.00a2a080@pop3.bit-net.com> Cooper Fox wrote: >WSYY's appeal is that it is THE hometown station for >that area. Like WHOU in Houtlon(ME), WFAD in >Middlebury(VT) and WMWV in Mt Washington Valley(NH) is >the station that everyone turns to for cancellations >and local sports. If ran right, it really doesn't >need to get into Bangor. IIRC, a similar situation happened in the mid-80s to WOTW in Nashua, where the land at the studio/tx site was being sold, and the station didn't have the resources to find a new site. The stations were dark for several years. Guess this is why you get a guaranteed renewal on a tx site lease. I'd be curious as to why the land owner is so adamantly opposed to selling the land to the station, or even giving a lease extension beyone 1 year. Sounds like there's more to this than meets the eye. Almost sounds like personal bad blood. Are there separate AM & FM sites, or are they co-located? I'm not familiar with the area, and the article was a bit confusing on this. From mlaurence@mindspring.com Thu Mar 11 09:20:21 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Thu Mar 11 09:20:29 2004 Subject: The Dish on Viacom In-Reply-To: <01b501c4073a$bfeb8f40$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <3AE741CB-7367-11D8-BDF3-003065D69DF8@mindspring.com> On Thursday, March 11, 2004, at 02:28 AM, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > Aren't most people using "DirecTV" nowadays? DirecTV is number one with 12.1 million, but Dish is a strong number two with 9.4 million, according to http://www.skyreport.com . Dish's rate of growth has been slightly ahead of DirecTV. Comcast should be scared out of their minds to see the number of satellite dishes in my city neighborhood. Mark From pete@partnercomm.com Thu Mar 11 09:29:16 2004 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Thu Mar 11 09:29:26 2004 Subject: WSYY Tower in Jeopardy In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040311082439.00a2a080@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > I'd be curious as to why the land owner is so adamantly opposed to selling > the land to the station, or even giving a lease extension beyone 1 > year. Sounds like there's more to this than meets the eye. Almost sounds > like personal bad blood. Are there separate AM & FM sites, or are they > co-located? I'm not familiar with the area, and the article was a bit > confusing on this. The AM site is closer to town, located within 200m or so of their studios NW of town, on a 2+ acre leased site. The original FM tower (pre-upgrade from 97.7A to 94.9C2) is right next to the studios (with a 3-bay Harris antenna still tuned to 97.7), though last I checked, it was not licensed as an aux facility - though it has been used as such recently. The original class-A facility was a standard 100m AAT 3KW allocation. The current primary FM site is a 198' unlighted tower with a 10-bay Shively antenna (using up about half of that tower space) on top of Hammond Ridge, further NW of town. It is about a 4 mile drive down the unpaved road, then about 1.5 miles up a rutted just-barely-passable trail (not in any vehicle Scott Fybush owns, however) to the tower site. Sale of the station included an old snowmobile for the winter trips. There have been a number of 'slow pay' issues with contractors and other vendors in the area over the years - successfully alienating them from most who had any business relationship with them. It wouldn't surprise me if they'd done this with those who own the land under the station properties. It had been described to me as under 'long lease' of the 99-year variety - and though the annual rate was quite reasonable, perhaps they got a bit too far behind on those payments. I would bet there is more to the story than that, though... -Peter Peter Murray (N3IXY) Pittsburgh, PA From ka1mvk@hotmail.com Thu Mar 11 15:21:56 2004 From: ka1mvk@hotmail.com (Andy Soule) Date: Thu Mar 11 15:33:53 2004 Subject: WSYY Tower in Jeopardy References: <20040311115904.39213.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Fox" To: "Scott Fybush" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:59 AM Subject: Re: WSYY Tower in Jeopardy > If ran right, it really doesn't > need to get into Bangor. > Well, now there's a concept...apparent burned bridges with the landlord is not a good sign. That station has been for sale for many years now, and still no takers? I don't know why anyone in Augusta should help bail them out of this mess. Yes, it is rural, and depressed, but many small town stations do just fine in that environment. Takes the right owner/operator with the right attitude. I see it all the time. Lots of damage control needed for that place though.. From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Thu Mar 11 16:36:49 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Thu Mar 11 16:36:53 2004 Subject: The Dish on Viacom In-Reply-To: <3AE741CB-7367-11D8-BDF3-003065D69DF8@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20040311213649.15997.qmail@web12822.mail.yahoo.com> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 09:20:21 Mark Laurence wrote, in regards to subscribers: > DirecTV is number one with 12.1 million, but Dish is > a strong number > two with 9.4 million, according to > http://www.skyreport.com . Dish's > rate of growth has been slightly ahead of DirecTV. > > Comcast should be scared out of their minds to see > the number of > satellite dishes in my city neighborhood. Silly sidenote to this: Has anyone on this list ever compared the picture quality of a standard NTSC signal from DirecTV to that of Dish Network? I have, and it appears that Dish Network's picture quality is worse than that of DirecTV. Not sure which digital compression systems/ratios each may be using, but if you compare the two there's a marked difference between them, I've found. Dish Network appears to be nothing more than a higher resolution version of streaming video that you would find on the internet. Has anyone else here ever noticed this, or am I going out of my mind? Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Thu Mar 11 16:43:42 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Thu Mar 11 16:43:45 2004 Subject: Viacom back on Dish Network Message-ID: <20040311214342.17710.qmail@web12822.mail.yahoo.com> Well, according to a statement on the Dish Network's website, all Viacom stations have returned to Dish Network as of 4:30 PM Friday, March 11. The press release is at: http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/programming/updates/index.shtml In total, the statement says Viacom's stations were off Dish Netowrk for a total of 36 hours, and that all Dish customers will get $1 off their next monthly bill and a coupon for a free pay per view movie for dealing with this situation Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Mar 11 18:19:01 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Mar 11 18:19:21 2004 Subject: Radio (TV?) Towers As Lightning Rods Message-ID: ON Thursdays, the Boston Globe runs a science-oriented Q&A feature called "Ask Dr. Knowledge". Today (03/11) someone from Newton asked if those tall radio (he probably meant TV towers, WNTN's isn't that tall) towers nearby would protect him from lightning. Here's the answer: http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_action=doc&p_docid=10141CE462F1E75B&p_docnum=1 I hope this URL works, I tried it on Google. If not, procure a Thursday Globe and go to the comix page. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From mlaurence@mindspring.com Thu Mar 11 18:46:05 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Thu Mar 11 18:46:11 2004 Subject: The Dish on Viacom In-Reply-To: <20040311213649.15997.qmail@web12822.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <431F5B50-73B6-11D8-8969-003065D69DF8@mindspring.com> On Thursday, March 11, 2004, at 04:36 PM, Matthew Osborne wrote: > Silly sidenote to this: Has anyone on this list ever > compared the picture quality of a standard NTSC signal > from DirecTV to that of Dish Network? I have, and it > appears that Dish Network's picture quality is worse > than that of DirecTV. Not sure which digital > compression systems/ratios each may be using, but if > you compare the two there's a marked difference > between them, I've found. Dish Network appears to be > nothing more than a higher resolution version of > streaming video that you would find on the internet. Both services use mpg streams, so they are similar in that way to Internet streaming video. Picture quality varies widely depending on the channel and the time of day. For prime time sporting events and premium movie channels, they crank up the picture quality to its highest level, but if you're watching a less-watched show on an obscure network, you can see plenty of compression artifacts. Both services are stretching their capabilities to the max in order to provide local channels as well as every shopping channel known to mankind. :) I have DirecTV at home and see Dish Network at work, and I've never noticed a significant picture quality difference. Both are better than any cable system I've had. Mark From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Mar 11 19:48:18 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Mar 11 19:48:25 2004 Subject: Radio (TV?) Towers As Lightning Rods Message-ID: <200403120048.TAA15786@webmail3.cac.psu.edu> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:19:01 +0000, "Laurence Glavin" wrote: > someone from Newton asked if those tall radio (he probably > meant TV towers, WNTN's isn't that tall) towers nearby > would protect him from lightning. Could have also meant WUNR. The towers are pretty visible from throughout Newton and West Roxbury (and are just a few hundred feet from scenic West Roxbury HS). From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Mar 11 21:13:37 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Mar 11 21:13:43 2004 Subject: The Dish on Viacom In-Reply-To: <431F5B50-73B6-11D8-8969-003065D69DF8@mindspring.com> References: <20040311213649.15997.qmail@web12822.mail.yahoo.com> <431F5B50-73B6-11D8-8969-003065D69DF8@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <200403120213.i2C2DbTq019040@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Both services use mpg streams, so they are similar in that way to > Internet streaming video. EchoStar and DirecTV both use MPEG-2 FlexMux and the MPEG-2 video codec. However, EchoStar uses the European standard DVB-S delivery system, while DirecTV uses something else. One or both of them probably contract out the video encoding to the compression place in Colorado that everybody else uses. I believe DVB-S uses the MPEG-2 layer III audio codec; I'm not sure what DirecTV uses for audio (probably Dolby AC-3 aka ATSC A/52). > For prime time sporting events and premium movie channels, they > crank up the picture quality to its highest level, but if you're > watching a less-watched show on an obscure network, you can see > plenty of compression artifacts. Both services determine for themselves the quality targets for each channel they carry. The compression people then analyze the bandwidth requirements and allocate satellite capacity on an ongoing basis in response to program material. (The same thing is done, in many cases by the same people, for cable.) For example, a high-bandwidth sports or premium channel might be multiplexed with one or more low-bandwidth channels like C-SPAN, The Weather Channel, and must-carry baggage like local-into-local DayStar and TBN affiliates. The higher-value channels are allowed to encroach on the bandwidth available to the lower-value channels in the same multiplex. -GAWollman From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Mar 11 21:16:26 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Mar 11 21:16:33 2004 Subject: WSYY Tower in Jeopardy References: <20040311115904.39213.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000f01c407d8$05d60920$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Fox" To: "Scott Fybush" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:59 AM Subject: Re: WSYY Tower in Jeopardy > If ran right, it really doesn't > need to get into Bangor. I can't imagine making money serving the Millinocket area these days. There is simply not enough economic activity there to generate the advertising revenue necessary to support anything more than the minimum operation. The area is economically depressed and losing population every year. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From stuff@struff.com Fri Mar 12 12:39:08 2004 From: stuff@struff.com (stuff@struff.com) Date: Fri Mar 12 12:39:17 2004 Subject: Dish/DirecTV Quality (was Re: The Dish on Viacom) In-Reply-To: <200403121700.i2CH02xO092609@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200403121700.i2CH02xO092609@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <20040312173908.M29655@struff.com> In my house we have DirecTV, standard basic Cable, a big 10-foot C/Ku dish, and we are within distance to pick up some of the Boston and Manchester channels OTA. And I have a high-end Sony TV so -- sometimes unfortunately -- I notice every nuance, for better or for worse. The 10-footer has by far the best quality of all (no real big surprise there), even on the digitally compressed 4DTV channels. The OTA channels rank second and then for the most part, I prefer the Cable quality over the DirecTV. I'm sure that's probably because there is much less compression in the Cable than the DTV. So I do a lot of input toggling depending on what I want to watch. From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Mar 12 13:47:10 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri Mar 12 13:37:05 2004 Subject: Radio (TV?) Towers As Lightning Rods In-Reply-To: <200403120048.TAA15786@webmail3.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: On 3/11/04 7:48 PM, "Sean Smyth" wrote: > > Could have also meant WUNR. The towers are pretty visible from throughout > Newton and West Roxbury I grew up in Newton. Because of the geography of the hills, the WUNR towers are really only readily and commonly visible in the Oak Hill section of Newton. The elevation of the area south of Newton Centre blocks their view from most of the rest of the city. Approximately 7/8 of the city wouldn't know they exist, visually speaking. They are visible on and near a stretch of Rte. 128 in Needham, from parts of West Roxbury, and a few spots in the north side of Dedham. The link to that article didn't work, but very doubtful it's talking about the WNTN tower either, which is only in the visual landscape in the north parts of the West Newton and Auburndale neighborhoods (and a small section of the south side of adjacent Waltham). I'm sure it must be talking about the Route 128 antenna farm towers, which are the only ones that would really be considered "tall", and are practically ubiquitous in the Newton skyscape unless you're on the immediate north side of a hill. Most people don't know radio towers from TV towers. Eli Polonsky From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Mar 12 17:01:57 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Mar 12 17:02:18 2004 Subject: Radio (TV?) Towers As Lightning Rods Message-ID: -- --------- Original Message --------- DATE: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:47:10 From: Eli Polonsky To: Sean Smyth , Cc: > >The link to that article didn't work It worked yesterday, but although 'boston.com' or Boston Globe dididn't appear in the URL, today it's listed as 'expired'. Globe stuff expires faster than the Red Sox in September. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sat Mar 13 07:16:43 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat Mar 13 07:16:51 2004 Subject: Server downtime Message-ID: <200403131216.i2DCGhOQ030710@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> The bostonradio.org servers will be down for a while today, March 13, for relocation to our new building. -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Mar 17 12:03:36 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Mar 17 12:09:20 2004 Subject: Testing list operation.... Message-ID: <200403171703.i2HH3a9D016348@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Some people have noted problems with the list. I'm sending this test message to see if what I just did fixed it. -GAWollman From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue Mar 16 19:18:04 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed Mar 17 12:09:25 2004 Subject: Radio Free Brattleboro Message-ID: <003901c40bb5$5139dff0$c3ec33d1@alvin> Has this country's judiciary totally gone nuts and is making a conscious effort to subvert the laws that they are sworn to uphold? >From Boston.com "A U.S. District Court judge has denied a federal request for a preliminary injunction to force Radio Free Brattleboro off the air." OK. So these granola heads don't like the law so they think that they are above it. The judge apparently agrees. Why do we even have laws if judges can legislate on the fly? Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Mar 14 22:46:41 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed Mar 17 12:09:45 2004 Subject: Shortwave for the car. Message-ID: Occasionally people will inquire here about shortwave radios for the car. I presently have one listed for sale on e-bay, which I am selling because it will not fit my new car. It's a Becker Mexico 2340. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3085051543 -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sat Mar 13 16:32:22 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed Mar 17 12:09:49 2004 Subject: Sports director at WMUR Ch9 Manchester resigns after 13years Message-ID: <20040313213222.54118.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> Channel 9 announced during their newscast yesterday, that Charlie Sherman has resigned as Sports Director at Channel 9. Also, WNDS TV 50 news lost Brian Bates to some unknown affiliated station. John ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com From hmglaz@webtv.net Sun Mar 14 08:44:59 2004 From: hmglaz@webtv.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Wed Mar 17 12:09:51 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad Message-ID: <5228-405461DB-681@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net> During yesterday's Red Sox game on WEEI, I heard an ad attacking satellite radio. It was done in a man-on-the-street format, with "former subscriber" after "former subscriber" reciting a litany of complaints: "The equipment is too expensive." "They broadcast filthy language. I don't want my 9-year-old hearing that." "I live in a big city and the tall buildings mess up reception." And my favorite: "Everything I want is already on my local radio station. If I want music, I'll use my CD player." The only "fact" offered by the announcer in this ad goes something like "Do you know that tens of thousands of people CANCEL their satellite radio service every month? Think about that before you subscribe." The tagline is "This message brought to you by your local radio stations." So who's behind this? The NAB? Entercom? Someone is awfully worried about a service that has less than 2 million subscribers in the entire country, don't you think? Howard From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Mar 17 12:20:52 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed Mar 17 12:20:58 2004 Subject: Radio Free Brattleboro In-Reply-To: <003901c40bb5$5139dff0$c3ec33d1@alvin> References: <003901c40bb5$5139dff0$c3ec33d1@alvin> Message-ID: At 7:18 PM -0500 3/16/04, Brian Vita wrote: >"A U.S. District Court judge has denied a federal request for a > preliminary injunction to force Radio Free Brattleboro off the air." > >OK. So these granola heads don't like the law so they think that they are >above it. The judge apparently agrees. Why do we even have laws if judges >can legislate on the fly? OK, if the law is so black and white, why have judges at all? Doesn't the law require justices to use judgement? Note that this is just a request for a preliminary injunction, the judge is just saying he wants to wait for the whole case to be presented before ruling. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Mar 17 12:25:18 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Mar 17 12:25:22 2004 Subject: Radio Free Brattleboro In-Reply-To: <003901c40bb5$5139dff0$c3ec33d1@alvin> References: <003901c40bb5$5139dff0$c3ec33d1@alvin> Message-ID: <200403171725.i2HHPIU9016581@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > "A U.S. District Court judge has denied a federal request for a > preliminary injunction to force Radio Free Brattleboro off the air." > OK. So these granola heads don't like the law so they think that they are > above it. The judge apparently agrees. The criteria for granting such injunctions are very stringent. Evidently the Government has failed to meet them. (The lawyers here can comment on the specific criteria, but I would guess that the Government failed to demonstrate "irreparable harm".) This does not mean that the judge has decided that the law doesn't apply to RFB; it simply means that the Government has not met the applicable burden of proof to obtain an injunction at this stage of the proceeding. -GAWollman From kvahey@tmail.com Wed Mar 17 12:26:24 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed Mar 17 12:26:55 2004 Subject: Testing list operation.... In-Reply-To: <200403171703.i2HH3a9D016348@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200403171703.i2HH3a9D016348@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1079544387.E7B7A1C@s5.dngr.org> First message in 3 days yay On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:24pm, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Some people have noted problems with the list. I'm sending this test > message to see if what I just did fixed it. > > -GAWollman From sven@gordsven.com Wed Mar 17 12:58:29 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Wed Mar 17 12:58:35 2004 Subject: Testing list operation.... In-Reply-To: <200403171703.i2HH3a9D016348@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Garrett Wollman wrote: > message to see if what I just did fixed it. Received. Seems to be working again... -- Sven From pete@partnercomm.com Wed Mar 17 14:23:27 2004 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Wed Mar 17 14:23:34 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad Message-ID: This just came through from an e-newsletter I receive: >From Radio And Internet Newsletter (RAIN) 3/17: --- With a series of :60 spots they produced and are airing, Entercom has upped the ante in radio broadcasters' turf battle with satellite radio. The ads call satellite radio "a lousy deal." --- It sounds about as logical as local TV broadcasters casting aspersion upon cable or satellite television services... -Peter Peter Murray (N3IXY) Pittsburgh, PA From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Mar 17 15:19:33 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed Mar 17 15:19:40 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040317151631.0273c068@mail.mac.com> At 02:23 PM 3/17/2004, Peter Murray wrote: >--- >With a series of :60 spots they produced and are airing, Entercom has >upped the ante in radio broadcasters' turf battle with satellite radio. >The ads call satellite radio "a lousy deal." >--- I just had Sirius installed in my new car (the one I had delivered three days before the snowstorm), and I'm having lots of fun with it. Time will tell if I'm still satisfied with it in the long term, but I think I will be. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Mar 17 16:40:53 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Mar 17 16:41:22 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad Message-ID: >DATE: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:23:27 >From: Peter Murray >To: bri@bostonradio.org >This just came through from an e-newsletter I receive: > >>From Radio And Internet Newsletter (RAIN) 3/17: >--- >With a series of :60 spots they produced and are airing, Entercom has >upped the ante in radio broadcasters' turf battle with satellite radio. >The ads call satellite radio "a lousy deal." >--- > >It sounds about as logical as local TV broadcasters casting aspersion upon >cable or satellite television services... > >-Peter > >Peter Murray (N3IXY) >Pittsburgh, PA > > I hear spots for XM and Sirius on Entercom-owned WRKO-AM, usually in the early morning and possibly tagged to such features as John Walsh's "America's Most Wanted", Rush's commentary, ABC's news about technology, etc. I don't know if WRKO is accepting free-standing XM or Sirius spots however. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From brouder@juno.com Wed Mar 17 18:41:19 2004 From: brouder@juno.com (brouder@juno.com) Date: Wed Mar 17 18:43:53 2004 Subject: Testing list operation & Fleetwood Recordings Message-ID: <20040317.154219.3638.2931835@webmail14.lax.untd.com> Garrett seems to have fixed everything; John Boldics's note on Charlie Sherman leaving WMUR TV was dated March 13th, but all others are dated today. Sven and Kevin commented on the list working again, and there were several exchanges on RFB and anti-satellite radio ads. Don't know if others have noticed a current eBay sale. The famous Fleewtood Recording complex in Revere is for sale for $649,000. The listing has some interesting photos and long lists of former clients/talent. Ed Brouder Man from Mars Productions http://www.manfrommars.com ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Mar 17 20:45:29 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Wed Mar 17 20:45:41 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad References: Message-ID: <003d01c40c8a$b2d35130$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Murray" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:23 PM Subject: re: Anti-satellite radio ad > It sounds about as logical as local TV broadcasters casting aspersion upon > cable or satellite television services... My cable system runs anti-satellite TV ads. From markwats@comcast.net Wed Mar 17 21:02:49 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Wed Mar 17 21:02:08 2004 Subject: WBEC-FM Moving East Message-ID: <006b01c40c8d$1dc3cdb0$64f88018@markscomputer> Today's Berkshire Eagle newspaper reports that Vox Radio Group, who purchased WBEC-FM (105.5 Pittsfield MA) in late 2002 is planning to apply to move 105.5 to Easthampton MA, about 40 miles east. This is to accomodate the move of another Vox owned station, WNYQ (105.7 Queensbury NY) south to Malta NY, which is 43 miles away from WBEC-FM's current transmitter site atop Bousquet Ski Area. WBEC-FM's current format (Top 40, or as the article describes it, "youth oriented rock music programming") will move to one of Vox's other FM signals in the Brekshires. They currently own WUPE (95.9 Pittsfield) and is awaiting FCC approval for it's purchase of WMNB (100.1 North Adams). The article, which is on line at www.berkshireeagle.com mentions Scott Fybush's Northeast Radio Watch as well. Mark Watson From scott@fybush.com Wed Mar 17 22:53:47 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Mar 17 22:47:53 2004 Subject: WBEC-FM Moving East In-Reply-To: <006b01c40c8d$1dc3cdb0$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040317225122.03193008@gwind.pair.com> > The article, which is on line at www.berkshireeagle.com mentions Scott >Fybush's Northeast Radio Watch as well. And misquotes me, to boot! (Well, misquotes the NERW article; the reporter never contacted me directly.) For WNYQ to move to Malta did not require WBEC-FM to move; that construction permit was already granted. What Vox accomplishes by moving WBEC-FM out of the way is the chance to upgrade WNYQ from an A to a B1 in Malta. (It's presently a B1 in Queensbury.) s From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Mar 18 02:01:53 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Mar 18 02:02:42 2004 Subject: Radio Free Brattleboro In-Reply-To: <003901c40bb5$5139dff0$c3ec33d1@alvin> Message-ID: <40590311.22480.9A0A12@localhost> On 16 Mar 2004 at 19:18, Brian Vita wrote: > "A U.S. District Court judge has denied a federal request for a > preliminary injunction to force Radio Free Brattleboro off the air." > > OK. So these granola heads don't like the law so they think that they are > above it. The judge apparently agrees. Why do we even have laws if > judges can legislate on the fly? A preliminary injunction is granted after a brief perfunctory hearing and is designed to prevent irreprarable harm pending a full-blown hearing, after which a permanent injunction can be issued. A preliminary injunction is not issued without a showing on the part of the plaintiff that someone will suffer irreparable harm if the injunction is not granted. In this instance, it is obvious that Radio Free Brattleboro would suffer much more harm by being forced off the air than the government would be by RFB staying on the air a little longer. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From radiofreak@4motion.org Thu Mar 18 09:27:44 2004 From: radiofreak@4motion.org (Damon Cassell) Date: Thu Mar 18 09:27:50 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad In-Reply-To: <5228-405461DB-681@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: I haven't heard any of these commercials, primarily because as soon as a station goes to break I nail the channel button (steering wheel audio controls are great!) and move on to something not playing a commercial. And not surprisingly, I plan on installing XM in my car this weekend (the auxiliary input adapter for my sound system arrives today). I find it amusing that the radio industry would believe for a second that people are dumb or naive enough to buy into their anti-satellite propaganda, especially considering how XM and Sirius have received excellent, even rave reviews in print media and subscribers seem overwhelmingly enthusiastic. Then again, considering how the radio industry treats their listeners with total contempt, this isn't much of a surprise. My father, who is not a radio listener at all, recently rented a Ford Explorer in Florida. It had Sirius installed and activated. As soon as he returned he brought his own truck in to Tweeter and had it installed. He loved it that much. Terrestrial radio doesn't have a product that compelling and people know this. Damon On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Howard Glazer wrote: > During yesterday's Red Sox game on WEEI, I heard an ad attacking > satellite radio. It was done in a man-on-the-street format, with "former > subscriber" after "former subscriber" reciting a litany of complaints: > "The equipment is too expensive." "They broadcast filthy language. I > don't want my 9-year-old hearing that." "I live in a big city and the > tall buildings mess up reception." And my favorite: "Everything I want > is already on my local radio station. If I want music, I'll use my CD > player." > > The only "fact" offered by the announcer in this ad goes something like > "Do you know that tens of thousands of people CANCEL their satellite > radio service every month? Think about that before you subscribe." The > tagline is "This message brought to you by your local radio stations." > > So who's behind this? The NAB? Entercom? Someone is awfully worried > about a service that has less than 2 million subscribers in the entire > country, don't you think? > > Howard -- Damon Cassell Marblehead MA damon@cassell.de From pete@partnercomm.com Thu Mar 18 10:03:01 2004 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Thu Mar 18 10:03:02 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad In-Reply-To: <003d01c40c8a$b2d35130$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Dan Billings wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Murray" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:23 PM > Subject: re: Anti-satellite radio ad > > > > It sounds about as logical as local TV broadcasters casting aspersion upon > > cable or satellite television services... > > My cable system runs anti-satellite TV ads. Sure they do - that's direct competition of (approximately) two equals. What I was saying is that it makes no sense for local broadcasters to try to compare their diversity of programming to that of satellite providers. They need to talk up what is *not* provided by those nationwide signals - real coverage on topics of local interest (whether traffic/weather/news, events, personalities, etc). -Peter Peter Murray (N3IXY) Pittsburgh, PA From hmadjid@yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 12:57:28 2004 From: hmadjid@yahoo.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Thu Mar 18 12:57:35 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad Message-ID: <20040318175728.67041.qmail@web80003.mail.yahoo.com> Peter Murray Writes: >This just came through from an e-newsletter I >receive: >>From Radio And Internet Newsletter (RAIN) 3/17: --- >>With a series of :60 spots they produced and are >>airing, Entercom has >>upped the ante in radio broadcasters' turf battle >>with satellite radio. >>The ads call satellite radio "a lousy deal." --- According to te info I have read on an on-line forum devoted to the Sirius service, that these spots do indeed originate with Entercom. The subscriber growth of satelite radio must give media conglomerates pause. While the 2 million or so (XM and Sirius combined) still might be a small number comapred to the entire radio audience, XM and Sirius have experienced tremendous growth. Add to this the fact that more and more automobiles now have factory XM as a standard feature or option. This includes even entry - level cars such as the Chevy Aveo. Now I have not heard the Entercom anti satellite radio spots, but from what I read here, and on other on-line services, most of the points made seem to be half truths. I guess it's sort of like a politcal campaign attack ad. First of all it's no longer hundreds of dollars for the equipment, as one can buy an instal-it-yourself kit for around $100 to $130 including the antenna. As far as the monthly subcription goes, yea I was skeptical at first that people would pay it but the $10 a month (XM) or the $12.95 per month (Sirius) isn't a lot compared to the other costs of owning a car. Given today's gas prices, it costs nearly $20 to fill up even an economy car. And even the Quickie-Lube oil places now charge like $25 plus tax to change oil. ===== 73, de Hakim (N1ZFF) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Mar 18 13:36:31 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Mar 18 13:36:25 2004 Subject: While we were gone Message-ID: <200403181336.AA940179650@mail.ttlc.net> I haven't noticed any comments on the list, so may I be the first to note that David Brudnoy will be back on Monday 3/22? From radiofreak@4motion.org Thu Mar 18 13:43:10 2004 From: radiofreak@4motion.org (Damon Cassell) Date: Thu Mar 18 13:43:13 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad In-Reply-To: <20040318175728.67041.qmail@web80003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Does anyone know when these ads began to appear? It seems like it is very recently. I wonder if it is merely coincidence that the ads appeared while Howard Stern is contemplating a move to satellite. Nobody knows how many new subscribers this would bring XM or Sirius (or, perhaps, both) but I don't think the number would be insignificant. I find it interesting, also, that Entercom, a champion of conservative talk, attacks satellite for airing indecency. Perhaps satellite is shaping up to be a political and cultural concern, as well as financial, for the folks at Entercom. As the satellite goes, so goes radio? Damon > According to te info I have read on an on-line forum > devoted to the Sirius service, that these spots do > indeed originate with Entercom. > > The subscriber growth of satelite radio must give > media conglomerates pause. While the 2 million or so > (XM and Sirius combined) still might be a small number > comapred to the entire radio audience, XM and Sirius > have experienced tremendous growth. Add to this the > fact that more and more automobiles now have factory > XM as a standard feature or option. This includes even > entry - level cars such as the Chevy Aveo. > > Now I have not heard the Entercom anti satellite radio > spots, but from what I read here, and on other on-line > services, most of the points made seem to be half > truths. I guess it's sort of like a politcal campaign > attack ad. > > First of all it's no longer hundreds of dollars for > the equipment, as one can buy an instal-it-yourself > kit for around $100 to $130 including the antenna. > > As far as the monthly subcription goes, yea I was > skeptical at first that people would pay it but the > $10 a month (XM) or the $12.95 per month (Sirius) > isn't a lot compared to the other costs of owning a > car. Given today's gas prices, it costs nearly $20 to > fill up even an economy car. And even the Quickie-Lube > oil places now charge like $25 plus tax to change oil. > > > > > > ===== > 73, de Hakim (N1ZFF) > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com > -- Damon Cassell Marblehead MA damon@cassell.de From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Mar 18 13:55:15 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Mar 18 13:55:20 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad In-Reply-To: References: <5228-405461DB-681@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <63542.216.204.15.170.1079636115.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> > I find it amusing that the radio industry would believe for a second > that people are dumb or naive enough to buy into their anti-satellite > propaganda, especially considering how XM and Sirius have received > excellent, even rave reviews in print media and subscribers seem > overwhelmingly enthusiastic. Terrestrial radio doesn't have a > product that compelling and people know this I wouldn't go so far as to say "rave reviews". Yeah, I've read reviews that are clearly written by someone who has an interest in the satellite industry, but I've read others that rate it as "ho-hum" and all stages in between. Likewise, people I've known who've had it. Some think it's the greatest thing since sliced cheese, others question whether it's worth the money. Haven't heard Sirius, but what I've heard on XM I'd hesitate to describe as "compelling". From beckwith@ime.net Thu Mar 18 15:05:51 2004 From: beckwith@ime.net (Chris Beckwith) Date: Thu Mar 18 15:06:40 2004 Subject: J.J. Jackson R.I.P. Message-ID: <003301c40d24$79207310$8620a78e@PHOENIX> According to laradio.com former WBCN and MTV air personality J.J. Jackson died last night of an apparent heart attack as he was driving home from dinner. http://laradio.com/jjmemories.htm From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Mar 18 15:32:40 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Mar 18 15:32:48 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad In-Reply-To: <63542.216.204.15.170.1079636115.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.co m> References: <5228-405461DB-681@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net> <63542.216.204.15.170.1079636115.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040318152715.027872a8@mail.mac.com> At 01:55 PM 3/18/2004, SteveOrdinetz wrote: >I wouldn't go so far as to say "rave reviews". Yeah, I've read reviews >that are clearly written by someone who has an interest in the satellite >industry, but I've read others that rate it as "ho-hum" and all stages in >between. Likewise, people I've known who've had it. Some think it's the >greatest thing since sliced cheese, others question whether it's worth the >money. Haven't heard Sirius, but what I've heard on XM I'd hesitate to >describe as "compelling". I bought Sirius, though more expensive, because I feel that it's channel offerings are more in line with my tastes, both musically and for it's three NPR/PRI channels. My impression was that XM caters more to the subwoofer crowd. In fact, several salespeople confirmed my suspicions that the listeners of Sirius tend to skew older than those of XM. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Mar 18 15:48:54 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Mar 18 15:48:45 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad Message-ID: <200403181548.AA1019674672@mail.ttlc.net> Larry Weil scribed: >My impression was that XM caters more to the subwoofer crowd. You mean guys like me that cruise down the boulevard at Hampton Beach in our trucks with the oversized tires, 8500 Watt stereo cranked so the windows pulse, just trying to pick up chicks? From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Mar 18 16:20:13 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Mar 18 16:20:20 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad In-Reply-To: <200403181548.AA1019674672@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200403181548.AA1019674672@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040318161843.0277a308@mail.mac.com> At 03:48 PM 3/18/2004, rogerkirk wrote: >Larry Weil scribed: > >My impression was that XM caters more to the subwoofer crowd. > >You mean guys like me that cruise down the boulevard at Hampton Beach in >our trucks with the oversized tires, 8500 Watt stereo cranked so the >windows pulse, just trying to pick up chicks? Yea, except in your case, you'll need a lot more than that! -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Mar 18 18:36:05 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Mar 18 18:36:08 2004 Subject: WBZ billboarding :29 timechecks? Message-ID: <200403182336.i2INa4of029162@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> I've noticed at least at 10:29, the timecheck on WBZ for the past month has been sponsored by Bernie & Phyl's Furniture. -GAWollman From rac@gabrielmass.com Thu Mar 18 19:34:15 2004 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Thu Mar 18 19:34:23 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20040318161843.0277a308@mail.mac.com> References: <200403181548.AA1019674672@mail.ttlc.net> <6.0.3.0.2.20040318161843.0277a308@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <405A4007.2030603@gabrielmass.com> I was happy enough with Sirius to renew for another year, but of course nothing's perfect. Here are my nitpicks: -- The PSAs on the news channels are repetitive and condescending: getting told for the 215th time to fight housing discrimination and child abuse is a bit much. I think the ad agencies must be making PSAs annoying on purpose so that commercials will come off better by comparison! Aren't there some old PSAs they could re-run just for the sake of variety? -- Some of the Sirius **promos** use foul language: this is not nice. On the other hand, Sirius deserves credit for adding a "clean" comedy channel alongside the "uncensored" one. To go back to the BBC thread: alas, Sirius' Beeb channel is the news-and-information stream, and does not include entertainment programs. -_RC From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Mar 18 19:48:49 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Mar 18 19:48:55 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad In-Reply-To: <405A4007.2030603@gabrielmass.com> References: <200403181548.AA1019674672@mail.ttlc.net> <6.0.3.0.2.20040318161843.0277a308@mail.mac.com> <405A4007.2030603@gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040318194340.02788258@mail.mac.com> At 07:34 PM 3/18/2004, Richard Chonak wrote: >I was happy enough with Sirius to renew for another year, but of course >nothing's perfect. Here are my nitpicks: My nitpick, so far, is that they limit the bandwidth on the NPR and PRI channels. I believe they do this because most of the programs are talk and news shows, but they do have some programs on these channels that involve music, most notably World Cafe and Prairie Home Companion. These come through sounding really flat, kinda like AM with a lot of compression. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From markwats@comcast.net Thu Mar 18 21:09:20 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Mar 18 21:08:36 2004 Subject: WBZ billboarding :29 timechecks? References: <200403182336.i2INa4of029162@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <002901c40d57$3136b040$64f88018@markscomputer> Garrett Wollman wrote: > I've noticed at least at 10:29, the timecheck on WBZ for the past > month has been sponsored by Bernie & Phyl's Furniture. I've heard it at 2:29 PM yesterday. I've heard it at other :29 past the hour slots during the day as well. Mark Watson From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Mar 18 22:27:57 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu Mar 18 22:28:12 2004 Subject: WBZ billboarding :29 timechecks? In-Reply-To: <002901c40d57$3136b040$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <000c01c40d62$2cc376a0$c3ec33d1@alvin> > Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > > I've noticed at least at 10:29, the timecheck on WBZ for the past > > month has been sponsored by Bernie & Phyl's Furniture. > > I've heard it at 2:29 PM yesterday. I've heard it at other > :29 past the hour slots during the day as well. > > Mark Watson I can't help but wonder if some idiotic focus group was "tested" and decided that :29 is a much better time buy than :30 for certain demos.... Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Mar 19 00:03:13 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Mar 19 00:03:04 2004 Subject: WBZ billboarding :29 timechecks? Message-ID: <200403190003.AA1096745078@mail.ttlc.net> Garrett Wollman noted: >I've noticed at least at 10:29, the timecheck on WBZ for the past >month has been sponsored by Bernie & Phyl's Furniture. IIRC, they've been running the campaign at both :29 and :59 since the beginning of the year. Loses it's charm when they say "It's X:59..." over the TOH tone. From hmadjid@yahoo.com Fri Mar 19 01:41:08 2004 From: hmadjid@yahoo.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Fri Mar 19 01:41:11 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040319064108.58940.qmail@web80008.mail.yahoo.com> Larry Weil wrote: > > Hi Hakim, > > The only on-line forum for Sirius I have found is on > Yahoo, and it > doesn't seem very active. Could you point me in the > right direction > for the forum you are referencing. > Larry, FYI and for the rest of the Boston Radio list participants there is quite a nice Sirius forum at the website: http://www.siriusbackstage.com/ It *IS* an indpendent forum not assoicated with Sirius. I just discovred the site about 24hr ago, looks pretty good to me, if you're interested in Sirius. ===== 73, de Hakim (N1ZFF) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com From radiofreak@4motion.org Fri Mar 19 09:31:41 2004 From: radiofreak@4motion.org (Damon Cassell) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:31:46 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20040318194340.02788258@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Larry Weil wrote: > My nitpick, so far, is that they limit the bandwidth on the NPR and PRI > channels. I believe they do this because most of the programs are talk and > news shows, but they do have some programs on these channels that involve > music, most notably World Cafe and Prairie Home Companion. These come > through sounding really flat, kinda like AM with a lot of compression. I just finished installing XM in my car last night. XM does the same thing with the BBC and other news/talk channels. Compression/codec artifacts are very evident. I'll get used to it.. but it's not like listening to the World Service on an old Hammarlund. The audio quality on the music channels is great. -- Damon Cassell Marblehead MA damon@cassell.de From radiofreak@4motion.org Fri Mar 19 09:34:41 2004 From: radiofreak@4motion.org (Damon Cassell) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:34:43 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad In-Reply-To: <20040319064108.58940.qmail@web80008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Hakim Madjid wrote: > Larry, > FYI and for the rest of the Boston Radio list > participants there is quite a nice Sirius forum at the > website: > > http://www.siriusbackstage.com/ The equivalent site for XM is: http://www.xmfan.com ...tons of excellent XM info there. -- Damon Cassell Marblehead MA damon@cassell.de From hmadjid@yahoo.com Fri Mar 19 11:35:49 2004 From: hmadjid@yahoo.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Fri Mar 19 11:36:03 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040319163549.37560.qmail@web80011.mail.yahoo.com> --- Damon Cassell wrote: > > The equivalent site for XM is: > > http://www.xmfan.com > > ...tons of excellent XM info there. > > -- > > Damon Cassell > Marblehead MA > damon@cassell.de Also www.clubxm.com has pretty active and informative forums for both XM and Sirius. ===== 73, de Hakim (N1ZFF) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com From lorraine6474@usadatanet.net Fri Mar 19 14:36:55 2004 From: lorraine6474@usadatanet.net (Lorraine Smith) Date: Fri Mar 19 14:37:07 2004 Subject: WBZ billboarding :29 timechecks? References: <200403182336.i2INa4of029162@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <002901c40d57$3136b040$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <001601c40de9$8a028ae0$b111da42@Lorraine> > > I've noticed at least at 10:29, the timecheck on WBZ for the past > > month has been sponsored by Bernie & Phyl's Furniture. > > I've heard it at 2:29 PM yesterday. I've heard it at other :29 past the > hour slots during the day as well. I have also caught the 9:59pm timecheck several times (when the Bruins are not playing). Lorraine From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Mar 19 17:05:01 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Mar 19 17:05:19 2004 Subject: Anti-satellite radio ad Message-ID: >DATE: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:34:15 >From: Richard Chonak >To: BRI >I was happy enough with Sirius to renew for another year, but of course >nothing's perfect. Here are my nitpicks: > > -- The PSAs on the news channels are repetitive and condescending: > getting told for the 215th time to fight housing discrimination > and child abuse is a bit much. I think the ad agencies must > be making PSAs annoying on purpose so that commercials will > come off better by comparison! Aren't there some old PSAs they > could re-run just for the sake of variety? > Something similar happens in the early morning on WBZ-TV's (remember WBZ-TV?) pickup of the CBS Morning News. There's a PSA for AIDS awareness they play EVERY SINGLE DAY! It shows a typical middle-class neighborhood in the USA, and as the person speaking drives along, she counts the number of people in each house who have died there from AIDS; it's supposed to give viewers an idea of what it would be like if this country had the same kind of AIDS epidemic as Africa. Whatever the value of the point, the constant repetition induces the numbness it's trying to counteract. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Mar 19 23:07:30 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Mar 19 23:07:19 2004 Subject: WBZ billboarding :29 timechecks? Message-ID: <200403192307.AA1210318988@mail.ttlc.net> Lorraine Smith wrote: >I have also caught the 9:59pm timecheck several times (when the Bruins >are not playing). Today I heard it at :58 and announced as :58. From billo@shoreham.net Sat Mar 20 08:19:28 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Mar 20 08:19:33 2004 Subject: Kerry Weebles, "I Don't Fall Down." Message-ID: <000001c40e7d$f995ee30$0300a8c0@livingroom> Matt Drudge reports this morning at this link, http://www.drudgereport.com/kerryid2.htm that the candidate asserts he fell down while snowboarding because a secret service agent got in his way. Drudge says, "Dem presidential candidate John Kerry called his secret service agent a "son of a bitch" after the agent inadvertently moved into his path during a ski mishap in Idaho, sending Kerry falling into the snow. "When asked a moment later about the incident by a reporter on the ski run, Kerry said sharply, "I don't fall down," the "son of a b*itch knocked me over." The article points out that Kerry had fallen about six times that day but outside of camera view. File under: Wobble? I wonder if this kind of story will get some fun-play on local talkers. Bill O'Neill From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Mar 20 13:55:26 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Mar 20 13:55:42 2004 Subject: Kerry Weebles, "I Don't Fall Down." Message-ID: >DATE: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 08:19:28 >From: "Bill O'Neill" >To: "Boston Radio Interest \(E-mail\)" interest@bostonradio.org> > >The article points out that Kerry had fallen about six times that day but >outside of camera view. > >File under: Wobble? > Since Senator Kerry is a rich and powerful man, what you have here is a mogul felled by a mogul. Happy first day of spring! ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From rjoc@webtv.net Sun Mar 21 16:05:49 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Sun Mar 21 16:05:59 2004 Subject: Maine PBS Basketball Coverage Message-ID: <10298-405E03AD-2971@storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net> Check out this weekend's Bangor Daily News for an article on Maine PBS TV's broadcasts of High School Basketball. Go to BangorNews.com then scroll down to Other Top Stories and highlight "Maine PBS gambled on basketball and won" (If you can't access the site, email me privately and I will forward the article) Besides Maine PBS and Connecticut Public Television are there any other PBS stations that feature local sports?? Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Mar 22 01:04:08 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon Mar 22 01:04:07 2004 Subject: Prophet Systems Nexgen, etc Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040322010301.0d533c78@pop.registeredsite.com> I am finishing up an article for Radio Guide about Prophet Systems automation. I realise that Clear Channel stations have to use it (since it's a division of CC), but I am also told there are numerous non-Clear Channel stations that also use it. If you have tried Prophet or currently use it and would like to be quoted, contact me off-list; or if you don't mind having everyone see your comments, feel free to reply on-list! As I did with the OtsDJ article, I am just trying to give a fair and accurate assessment. I especially want to talk with some people who are using it now (which version are you using?)-- what the general opinion of it is, do you find it easy to learn, have any problems been encountered and were they resolved, what are its major benefits, would you recommend Prophet, etc. Thanks! From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Mar 22 14:03:31 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Mar 22 14:03:55 2004 Subject: "Wall Street With (without) Louis Rukeyser" Message-ID: Was it two years ago that there was quite a bit of controversy about the treatment Maryland Public Television gave Louis Rukeyser when they summarily dumped him for a joint venture with Fortune Magazine to be named "Wall Street Week with Fortune"? Well, since then, the revised WSWwF seems to have settled in, although I don't know if it's garnering the same ratings it had with Louis Rukeyser. But Lou had his defenders, and he quickly decamped to CNBC and launched "Wall Street Week with Louis Rukeyser" that was in turn distributed to many PBS outlets by WLIW-TV near New York City. His show was a clone of WSW as before with the same living-room set, the same monlogue, banter with a rotating group of guest experts like Frank Cappiello, Robert Stovall, Gretchen Lash ( Gretchen Lash? That sounds more like a dominatrix than a financial advisor. It makes for an interesting combination though. I can just see her telling a client to "get on all fours like a dog and invest in subordinated debentures, and I do mean SUBORDINATED!") But I digress... Last October, Lou said he was going to be off for a while to undergo back surgey. Well, here it is nearly six months later, and no Lou. Ok, it's not all bad, Marie Bartiromo of CNBC has been one of the regular substitute hosts, but that only makes it more like a commercial cable channel than a dybbuk of a PBS legend. My 'GBH members magazine arrived today, and I checked to see if channel 44 was still scheduling the Rukeyeser show (yes); but how long will WGBX-TV, NHPTV and other PBS outlets carry the show WITHOUT Lou himself? David Brudnoy is back; who would have guessed Louis Rukeyser would be out LONGER than he! Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From sven@gordsven.com Mon Mar 22 14:34:23 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Mon Mar 22 14:34:32 2004 Subject: "Wall Street With (without) Louis Rukeyser" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Laurence Glavin wrote: > near New York City. His show was a clone of WSW as > before with the same living-room set, the same monlogue, > banter with a rotating group of guest experts like There's not really many cosmetic and format variations you can do with a financial talk show. Sure you can change furniture and fixtures but it's still basically a room with chairs and a guy talking and interviewing. -- SVen From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Mar 22 15:00:25 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Mar 22 15:00:41 2004 Subject: "Wall Street With (without) Louis Rukeyser" Message-ID: >DATE: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:34:23 >From: Sven Franklyn Weil >To: Laurence Glavin >Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >There's not really many cosmetic and format variations you can do with a >financial talk show. Sure you can change furniture and fixtures but it's >still basically a room with chairs and a guy talking and interviewing. > >-- >SVen > "Wall Street Week with Fortune" on PBS uses more video and remote interviews than the former WSW ever did. Last weekend, WSWwF included a scene from a so-called 'reality' show in which two adolescent girls discuss supply and demand (without realizing it) and a clip of a General Electric Co. TV commercial. Very often, when WSWwF interviews someone via satellite, the show's name should be changed to "Wall Street with Godzilla" because it seems there's always an observable delay between when the guest speaks and when the audience hears him or her. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Mar 22 16:19:47 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon Mar 22 17:44:18 2004 Subject: Sports director at WMUR Ch9 Manchester resigns after 13years In-Reply-To: <20040319132037.8620.qmail@web61107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040322211947.60834.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> I spook with somebody connected with Channel 9 about this. Charlie, apparently resigned after he was openly and repeatidly critical of the University of New Hampshire and their treatment of WMUR's sports staff, including charging the crew admission to non UNH sporting events played at UNH facilities. (That is High School basketball playoffs). I remember about two weeks ago during a sportscast that Charlie was indeed openly disgusted saying something like, We would like to bring you the highlites from the abc vs xyz game, but UNH officials barred us from covering the games. Instead we bring you, blah blah blah. He brought UNH up another three times during the sportcast in a negative light. I was told that Charlie was "not" spoken to or repremanded by WMUR higher ups about his behavior on air. John East Derry NH ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From dwcole@comcast.net Mon Mar 22 19:40:40 2004 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Mon Mar 22 19:40:54 2004 Subject: Sports director at WMUR Ch9 Manchester resigns after 13years References: <20040322211947.60834.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401c4106f$7817daa0$61f29318@HP310n> > Charlie, apparently resigned after he was openly and repeatidly critical > of the University of New Hampshire and their treatment of WMUR's sports > staff, including charging the crew admission to non UNH sporting events > played at UNH facilities. (That is High School basketball playoffs). > > I remember about two weeks ago during a sportscast that Charlie was indeed > openly disgusted saying something like, We would like to bring you the > highlites from the abc vs xyz game, but UNH officials barred us from > covering the games. Instead we bring you, blah blah blah. He brought UNH > up another three times during the sportcast in a negative light. > > I was told that Charlie was "not" spoken to or repremanded by WMUR higher > ups about his behavior on air. > This is nothing new, either for UNH or the NHIAA. I can remember several instances of covering sports events at UNH, including a couple with Charlie, when we were made to feel like second class citizens. Knowing Charlie and his Chelsea temper, (I was born in Chelsea so no cracks about city-bigotry), I am surprised he held off this long before saying anything in public. Those two bodies certainly deserve a public lambasting. Dan Cole From markwats@comcast.net Mon Mar 22 20:33:13 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon Mar 22 20:32:35 2004 Subject: Uncle Gus Message-ID: <006001c41076$dc7d21b0$64f88018@markscomputer> Someone e-mailed me today and asked if there are any video tapes of "The Uncle Gus Show" that aired for many years on WMUR (Channel 9 Manchester). I replied to her that as far as I know, unfortunetly not. This person was on the show as a child and wanted to find one to show her kids. I recall some time back that Kevin Vahey had come across a copy of "Uncle Gus" on a 2 inch video tape and was looking for someone with a machine to dub it. Just curious if Kevin was able to find the machine to dub it and if anyone else has any Uncle Gus tapes. Mark Watson From kvahey@tmail.com Mon Mar 22 21:06:05 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon Mar 22 21:06:28 2004 Subject: Uncle Gus In-Reply-To: <006001c41076$dc7d21b0$64f88018@markscomputer> References: <006001c41076$dc7d21b0$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <1080007568.19AE1C3E@r31.dngr.org> As far as I know there are snippets of that one show that have been restored at Avid. Gus was always done live, if Gus was on vacation Uncle Ray (Harris) filled in. One other tape exists but it was a show I am not sure the people on it want out there. A Cub Scout troop from Waltham never showed and their were NO kids. The crew became the kids that day, and little Kevin knew his state capitals. I made Mom proud. On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 8:34pm, Mark Watson wrote: > Someone e-mailed me today and asked if there are any video tapes of > "The > Uncle Gus Show" that aired for many years on WMUR (Channel 9 > Manchester). I > replied to her that as far as I know, unfortunetly not. This person was > on > the show as a child and wanted to find one to show her kids. I recall > some > time back that Kevin Vahey had come across a copy of "Uncle Gus" on a 2 > inch > video tape and was looking for someone with a machine to dub it. Just > curious if Kevin was able to find the machine to dub it and if anyone > else > has any Uncle Gus tapes. > > Mark Watson From nuhuc@juno.com Tue Mar 23 07:31:47 2004 From: nuhuc@juno.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Tue Mar 23 07:33:25 2004 Subject: WLLH Message-ID: <20040323.073147.-594411.0.nuhuc@juno.com> List Members: I'm planning on putting some airchecks of WLLH, Lowell on my web site in April, and I'm wondering if anyone has any information about WLLH, their formats over the years, people who have worked there, and that kind of info. There seems to be plenty of information about the legendary synchronous transmitter operation, but not much else that I can find. The airchecks that I have are of Jack Peterson, Jim Stevens, Daniel T. Guy, and Nick Diamond. Diamond sounds suspiciously like Harvey Warfield, but I can't be sure. Anyway, any information would be welcomed, and of course, any information I use on the web site would be credited to you. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From kvahey@tmail.com Tue Mar 23 09:14:51 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue Mar 23 09:15:35 2004 Subject: Brudnoy is back Message-ID: <1080051293.106C605E@w5.dngr.org> For those who are in the city, pick up today's Boston Herald (3/23) as Mike Barnicle has a column on the return of David Brudnoy to WBZ. It is not online. From kvahey@tmail.com Tue Mar 23 09:28:43 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue Mar 23 09:28:59 2004 Subject: WEEI buys WWRX Message-ID: <1080052126.1BB101CF@r31.dngr.org> Entercom has announced they have bought WWRX from FNX Broadcasting for 14.5M and will begin simulcasting on May 1 on the Rhode Island outlet From kvahey@tmail.com Tue Mar 23 09:43:20 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue Mar 23 09:43:45 2004 Subject: Press release from Entercom on WWRX WNIA purchase Message-ID: <1080053006.369BE4C8@r5.dngr.org> Press release on Entercom buying signals in Providence and Buffalo http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20040322005166&newsLang=en From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Tue Mar 23 10:28:46 2004 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Tue Mar 23 10:29:15 2004 Subject: WEEI buys WWRX In-Reply-To: <1080052126.1BB101CF@r31.dngr.org> Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20040323102601.01aeb3b0@pop.gis.net> At 09:28 AM 3/23/04 -0500, Kevin Vahey wrote: >Entercom has announced they have bought WWRX from FNX Broadcasting for >14.5M and will begin simulcasting on May 1 on the Rhode Island outlet What happens on WEEI-FM (?) when the Red Sox are on ? Doesn't WPRO have their rights in Providence ? From kvahey@tmail.com Tue Mar 23 10:31:13 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue Mar 23 10:31:47 2004 Subject: WEEI buys WWRX In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20040323102601.01aeb3b0@pop.gis.net> References: <4.3.1.2.20040323102601.01aeb3b0@pop.gis.net> Message-ID: <1080055879.2E7E5C99@r5.dngr.org> At least for 2004 the Sox will remain on WPRO And WEEI will provide alternative programming to FM On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:29am, Ron Bello wrote: > At 09:28 AM 3/23/04 -0500, Kevin Vahey wrote: >> Entercom has announced they have bought WWRX from FNX Broadcasting for >> 14.5M and will begin simulcasting on May 1 on the Rhode Island outlet > > What happens on WEEI-FM (?) when the Red Sox are on ? > Doesn't WPRO have their rights in Providence ? From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Mar 23 10:34:19 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue Mar 23 10:34:07 2004 Subject: WEEI buys WWRX In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20040323102601.01aeb3b0@pop.gis.net> Message-ID: <005c01c410ec$53ab0660$6400a8c0@AMD> Probably similar to what they do on WVEI in Worcester. They won't be able to run PawSox games or ESPN Radio probably though (WSKO has ESPN rights I believe). My guess would be Fox Sports Radio. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Ron Bello Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 10:29 AM To: Kevin Vahey; Boston Radio Mailing List Subject: Re: WEEI buys WWRX At 09:28 AM 3/23/04 -0500, Kevin Vahey wrote: >Entercom has announced they have bought WWRX from FNX Broadcasting for >14.5M and will begin simulcasting on May 1 on the Rhode Island outlet What happens on WEEI-FM (?) when the Red Sox are on ? Doesn't WPRO have their rights in Providence ? From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Mar 23 10:43:41 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue Mar 23 10:43:49 2004 Subject: WEEI buys WWRX In-Reply-To: <1080052126.1BB101CF@r31.dngr.org> References: <1080052126.1BB101CF@r31.dngr.org> Message-ID: At 9:28 AM -0500 3/23/04, Kevin Vahey wrote: >Entercom has announced they have bought WWRX from FNX Broadcasting >for 14.5M and will begin simulcasting on May 1 on the Rhode Island >outlet Simulcasting what? -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From kvahey@tmail.com Tue Mar 23 10:57:38 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue Mar 23 10:57:51 2004 Subject: WEEI buys WWRX In-Reply-To: References: <1080052126.1BB101CF@r31.dngr.org> Message-ID: <1080057461.15CD2C5C@w37.dngr.org> WEEI 850 AM On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:52am, Larry Weil wrote: > > Simulcasting what? > -- > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH From ssmyth@psu.edu Tue Mar 23 15:57:45 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue Mar 23 15:57:50 2004 Subject: Bob Edwards forced out of "Morning Edition" Message-ID: <000201c41119$7e1645e0$59464742@Sean> It's part of a series of moves NPR says is an "evolution" of the show. http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/03/23/npr.edwards.ap/index.html From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Mar 23 18:30:45 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Tue Mar 23 18:31:00 2004 Subject: Rerun: WCSH rules TV news Message-ID: <002901c4112e$dd77cbc0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> WCSH continues to dominate local news ratings in Portland. Dumping news at 5 and 5:30 worked for WMTW -- and nothing usually works for them. Dr. Phil beat WGME at 5 and WMTW's ratings at 6 were up, though they are still third. http://www.pressherald.com/news/local/040323nielsens.shtml From RogerKola@aol.com Tue Mar 23 18:50:53 2004 From: RogerKola@aol.com (RogerKola@aol.com) Date: Tue Mar 23 18:51:03 2004 Subject: So where does this put "Howard Stern via Satellite"? Message-ID: <1d9.1d0d61a7.2d92275d@aol.com> 1) An interesting quote I found about WBCQ's Alan Weiner: "In December 1988, a federal judge ruled the FCC had jurisdiction over all radio signals entering the United States, including those originating from ships in international waters." As quoted from this article: http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/VOLUME01/Free_access_to_the_airwaves.html 2)Which probably led somewhat indirectly to the US government's ability to restrict the "reception" of cell phone calls..... 3) So how would satellite transmission differ from RNI's fate? Especially if it originates in the US...wouldn't Stern just be another renegade? Do we get to keep the satellite? What's good for the goose........ Just random thoughts, I threw away my Anarchist's Cookbook long ago.... Roger WA1KAT From RogerKola@aol.com Tue Mar 23 18:57:03 2004 From: RogerKola@aol.com (RogerKola@aol.com) Date: Tue Mar 23 18:57:19 2004 Subject: Almost on topic....just turn down the contrast and brightness and listen... Message-ID: <139.2cc086e2.2d9228cf@aol.com> The following site will give you direct line distance and azimuth to TV stations within 100 miles of your location...(great if you are too cheap to have cable like me) http://www.antennaweb.org/ To keep it on topic, if a Radio station shares the same location (ALA Mt. Tom) this will show you where to swing your 500' dipole.......... Enjoy! Roger WA1KAT From ssmyth@psu.edu Tue Mar 23 19:16:49 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue Mar 23 19:16:52 2004 Subject: So where does this put "Howard Stern via Satellite"? In-Reply-To: <1d9.1d0d61a7.2d92275d@aol.com> Message-ID: <000201c41135$4d0fb370$59464742@Sean> Roger Kola writes: > "In December 1988, a federal judge ruled the FCC had > jurisdiction over all > radio signals entering the United States, including those > originating from ships > in international waters." >3) So how would satellite transmission differ from RNI's fate? Especially if >it originates in the US...wouldn't Stern just be another renegade? Do we get >to keep the satellite? The signal received by subscribers "originates" from the satellite, not a terrestrial transmitter or cell phone tower. Yes the programming is produced in the U.S. but it's non-terrestrial (I'm guessing hence the name XM...eXtraterrestrial modulation). It's akin to cable in the sense that cable is a separate for-pay service that's not broadcast over the public airwaves, thus out of the realm of court decisions such as Pacifica, et al. From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Tue Mar 23 21:47:14 2004 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:47:41 2004 Subject: Almost on topic....just turn down the contrast and brightness and listen... In-Reply-To: <139.2cc086e2.2d9228cf@aol.com> Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20040323213545.01b01580@pop.gis.net> Neat site. One odd thing...... Based on my home location in Natick, WSBK has a compass orientation of 80 degrees while WSBK-DT is 72 degrees. Their antennas are on the same tower. At 06:57 PM 3/23/04 -0500, RogerKola@aol.com wrote: >The following site will give you direct line distance and azimuth to TV >stations within 100 miles of your location...(great if you are too cheap >to have >cable like me) > >http://www.antennaweb.org/ > >To keep it on topic, if a Radio station shares the same location (ALA Mt. >Tom) this will show you where to swing your 500' dipole.......... > >Enjoy! > >Roger >WA1KAT From scott@fybush.com Tue Mar 23 21:58:54 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:53:00 2004 Subject: So where does this put "Howard Stern via Satellite"? In-Reply-To: <000201c41135$4d0fb370$59464742@Sean> References: <1d9.1d0d61a7.2d92275d@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040323215513.03600bf8@gwind.pair.com> At 07:16 PM 3/23/2004 -0500, Sean Smyth wrote: >Roger Kola writes: > > "In December 1988, a federal judge ruled the FCC had > > jurisdiction over all > > radio signals entering the United States, including those > > originating from ships > > in international waters." > > >3) So how would satellite transmission differ from RNI's fate? >Especially if > >it originates in the US...wouldn't Stern just be another renegade? Do >we get > >to keep the satellite? > >The signal received by subscribers "originates" from the satellite, not >a terrestrial transmitter or cell phone tower. Yes the programming is >produced in the U.S. but it's non-terrestrial (I'm guessing hence the >name XM...eXtraterrestrial modulation). It's akin to cable in the sense >that cable is a separate for-pay service that's not broadcast over the >public airwaves, thus out of the realm of court decisions such as >Pacifica, et al. The satellite signal differs from RNI in two ways: most important, the satellite operators are operating with fully valid FCC licenses, which RNI of course was not. Note that both XM and Sirius' uplinks are in the US, and the uplinks most certainly require licenses to operate. Second - and this should answer the Stern question - because the satellite signal is encrypted and is made available only to subscribers who specifically request it and pay for it, the content regulations that affect (I almost typed "afflict," and should have) terrestrial broadcasters don't apply here, and there would be an interesting court case if Congress tried to extend the FCC's content oversight to this area (and to pay cable, too). s From scott@fybush.com Tue Mar 23 22:00:42 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:54:50 2004 Subject: Almost on topic....just turn down the contrast and brightness and listen... In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20040323213545.01b01580@pop.gis.net> References: <139.2cc086e2.2d9228cf@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040323215909.035b5580@gwind.pair.com> At 09:47 PM 3/23/2004 -0500, Ron Bello wrote: >Neat site. > >One odd thing...... >Based on my home location in Natick, >WSBK has a compass orientation of >80 degrees while WSBK-DT is 72 degrees. >Their antennas are on the same tower. No, they're not! WSBK 38 is on the candelabra tower behind the Sheraton in Needham. WSBK-DT 39 is on the WBZ-TV tower across 128 on Cedar Street in Needham. WLVI-DT and WFXT-DT are on the candelabra. s From kvahey@tmail.com Tue Mar 23 22:14:51 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Tue Mar 23 22:15:02 2004 Subject: will FNX Broadcasting sell Maine next? Message-ID: <1080098093.25FB965B@s5.dngr.org> It is obvious FNX Broadcasting is in some trouble as the parent company by all accounts is a mess. I wonder if EEI will look hard at the Maine part of the network to give EEI a solid signal in Maine. Also with their buying WNUA a Buffalo rim shotter that was all sports does this mean perhaps a flip for WGR ? From radiotony@comcast.net Wed Mar 24 00:28:49 2004 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Wed Mar 24 00:28:59 2004 Subject: Oh ... my ... God! Message-ID: <00c801c41160$e3376ed0$6500a8c0@tony> This is so funny. Howard Stern releases anti-Bush radio ad: http://www.howardstern.com/HS_Bad_Amer_Pres_GWB.mp3 Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net http://politizine.blogspot.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Mar 24 01:31:16 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Mar 24 01:31:29 2004 Subject: WEEI buys WWRX In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20040323102601.01aeb3b0@pop.gis.net> References: <1080052126.1BB101CF@r31.dngr.org> Message-ID: <4060E4E4.16349.9759E2@localhost> On 23 Mar 2004 at 10:28, Ron Bello wrote: > What happens on WEEI-FM (?) when the Red Sox are on ? > Doesn't WPRO have their rights in Providence ? WEEI-FM? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Mar 24 07:26:56 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Mar 24 07:27:07 2004 Subject: will FNX Broadcasting sell Maine next? In-Reply-To: <1080098093.25FB965B@s5.dngr.org> References: <1080098093.25FB965B@s5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040324072415.01b54ee8@pop3.bit-net.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: >Also with their buying WNUA a Buffalo rim shotter that was all sports does >this mean perhaps a flip for WGR ? Isn't WGR one of the more successful stations in Entercom's Buffalo cluster? Doesn't make much sense to blow up a successful station and move the format to a dog frequency. Not that it's never happened before. :-/ From Kaimbridge@programmer.net Wed Mar 24 09:25:21 2004 From: Kaimbridge@programmer.net (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Wed Mar 24 09:26:02 2004 Subject: .Re: So where does this put "Howard Stern via Satellite"? Message-ID: <40619A51.B28F4D0@Programmer.Net> Scott Fybush wrote, > Second - and this should answer the Stern question - because > the satellite signal is encrypted and is made available only > to subscribers who specifically request it and pay for it, the > content regulations that affect (I almost typed "afflict," and > should have) terrestrial broadcasters don't apply here, and > there would be an interesting court case if Congress tried to > extend the FCC's content oversight to this area (and to pay > cable, too). Radio.About.Com has a nice take on the whole debacle: ? If you read the Communication Act of 1934 closely, one ? could argue the Federal Communications Commission ? is breaking the law, or at least the spirit of the law, in ? it's approach to the recent controversy over indecency ? on the radio. Read more. http://radio.about.com/cs/latestradionews/a/aa032204a.htm ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From sid.whitaker@unh.edu Wed Mar 24 13:54:09 2004 From: sid.whitaker@unh.edu (Robert A Whitaker) Date: Wed Mar 24 13:54:50 2004 Subject: will FNX Broadcasting sell Maine next? In-Reply-To: <1080098093.25FB965B@s5.dngr.org> References: <1080098093.25FB965B@s5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <1080154449.4061d95110280@webmail.unh.edu> In the Portland area, FNX's 92.1 Sanford is iffy, at best. It's almost unlistenable downtown with the overlap from the religious 91.9 in Harpswell, whose TX is line-of-sight to downtown Portland. 92.1 is fine in southern York county, and in the Portsmouth area, but I've always thought their claims of Portland-Portsmouth were a little bit of a reach. Sid Whitaker Quoting Kevin Vahey : > It is obvious FNX Broadcasting is in some trouble as the parent company > by all accounts is a mess. I wonder if EEI will look hard at the Maine > part of the network to give EEI a solid signal in Maine. > > Also with their buying WNUA a Buffalo rim shotter that was all sports > does this mean perhaps a flip for WGR ? > From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Mar 24 17:18:45 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Mar 24 17:19:02 2004 Subject: Almost on topic....just turn down the contrast andbrightness and listen... Message-ID: -- --------- Original Message --------->DATE: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 22:00:42 >From: Scott Fybush >To: Ron Bello , >RogerKola@aol.com,boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >At 09:47 PM 3/23/2004 -0500, Ron Bello wrote: >>Neat site. >> >>One odd thing...... >>Based on my home location in Natick, >>WSBK has a compass orientation of >>80 degrees while WSBK-DT is 72 degrees. >>Their antennas are on the same tower. > >No, they're not! WSBK 38 is on the candelabra tower behind the Sheraton in >Needham. WSBK-DT 39 is on the WBZ-TV tower across 128 on Cedar Street in >Needham. > >WLVI-DT and WFXT-DT are on the candelabra. > I too noticed an anomaly: channel 48 analog WYDN-TV channel 48 is shown as being about 50 miles from Methuen; WYND-DTV about half that...is their DTV assignment closer to Boston? ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From RogerKola@aol.com Wed Mar 24 20:08:56 2004 From: RogerKola@aol.com (RogerKola@aol.com) Date: Wed Mar 24 20:09:10 2004 Subject: Some where out there.... Message-ID: I am in need of a Comrex remote unit to finish a project.... Hot Line / Matrix / Vector / BlueBox, preferably used... Are there any local sources? Unless someone else is interested, I will take responses off list... Thanks! Roger WA1KAT From scott@fybush.com Wed Mar 24 20:50:30 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Mar 24 20:50:39 2004 Subject: Almost on topic....just turn down the contrast andbrightness and listen... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040324204833.035cdd18@gwind.pair.com> >I too noticed an anomaly: channel 48 analog WYDN-TV channel 48 >is shown as being about 50 miles from Methuen; >WYND-DTV about half that...is their DTV assignment >closer to Boston? Yup. The spacing restrictions for DTV-to-DTV and DTV-to-analog are considerably less restrictive than for analog-to-analog, and that opens up a number of move-in possibilities around the country. A number of Philadelphia TV rimshotters managed to put their DTV signals at the Roxborough tower farm even though their analogs are way out in the hinterlands; WJAL-68 Hagerstown MD, with analog tx north of Hagerstown in PENNSYLVANIA, plans to put its DTV in Washington DC. There are others, too. s From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Wed Mar 24 23:46:36 2004 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Wed Mar 24 23:46:41 2004 Subject: will FNX Broadcasting sell Maine next? In-Reply-To: <1080154449.4061d95110280@webmail.unh.edu> Message-ID: <20040325044636.59018.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> I agree with Sid - 92.1's signal deteriorates much beyond Saco becoming spotty for the average radio and unmarketable in Portland proper. Mount Hope in Sanford has never produced a decent signal for FM or TV. Channel 26 over the air was hard to pull in at my parents home in Portland's North Deering section, compared to the signal WENH Channel 11 put out, a good 60 miles further as the crow flies to their Deerfield, N.H. TX site. A wise P.D. once told me, "if a $9 clock radio doesn't pick up the station in the office, it may as well be off the air". How true! Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA --- Robert A Whitaker wrote: > In the Portland area, FNX's 92.1 Sanford is iffy, at > best. It's almost > unlistenable downtown with the overlap from the > religious 91.9 in Harpswell, > whose TX is line-of-sight to downtown Portland. 92.1 > is fine in southern York > county, and in the Portsmouth area, but I've always > thought their claims of > Portland-Portsmouth were a little bit of a reach. > > Sid Whitaker > > > > Quoting Kevin Vahey : > > > It is obvious FNX Broadcasting is in some trouble > as the parent company > > by all accounts is a mess. I wonder if EEI will > look hard at the Maine > > part of the network to give EEI a solid signal in > Maine. > > > > Also with their buying WNUA a Buffalo rim shotter > that was all sports > > does this mean perhaps a flip for WGR ? > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From hmglaz@webtv.net Thu Mar 25 02:31:20 2004 From: hmglaz@webtv.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Thu Mar 25 02:31:29 2004 Subject: So where does this put "Howard Stern via Satellite"? Message-ID: <19112-40628AC8-1966@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net> Scott Fybush wrote: >the satellite signal is encrypted and is > made available only to subscribers Actually, you could listen to a sampling of XM programming forever without paying a cent. When you turn on the receiver for the first time, you'll be tuned to the "preview channel," Channel 1, which airs a looped message telling you how to subscribe. If you twirl the tuning knob, you'll find a half-dozen channels streaming away. These are real-time feeds, which XM changes every few hours, and are available absolutely free to anyone with a receiver and antenna. I don't know whether any of XM's explicit-language channels (rap, metal, talk and comedy) ever make it into the rotation, though. If they do, I'd imagine that could be the back door Washington could barge through to enforce decency standards on satellite radio. Or has that back door already been opened by XM's making free samples which COULD include naughty language available? Howard From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Mar 25 06:13:45 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Mar 25 06:13:52 2004 Subject: Almost on topic....just turn down the contrast andbrightness and listen... In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040324204833.035cdd18@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <000c01c4125a$3d210fb0$59464742@Sean> Scott wrote: > WJAL-68 Hagerstown MD, with analog tx north of > Hagerstown in > PENNSYLVANIA, plans to put its DTV in Washington DC. No wonder why the station sold for big bucks within the last couple years... The relaxed spacing requirements seem to imply that a DTV signal is somewhat less potent over-the-air. Is this correct? From caigeadams@pacificcoast.net Tue Mar 23 22:19:36 2004 From: caigeadams@pacificcoast.net (Caige) Date: Thu Mar 25 11:33:16 2004 Subject: Upton Bell Message-ID: <1408913E-7D42-11D8-92DE-000A958B732C@pacificcoast.net> Hello: I'm a Canadian broadcaster in Victoria, BC. When living back east, the Boston area had a local sports broadcaster by the name of Upton Bell. What has become of him? I always enjoyed his quick wit and his on air banter. Would be great to hear some of his shows live over the internet. Thanks, Dave from Victoria, BC From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Mar 25 16:38:04 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Mar 25 16:38:22 2004 Subject: Upton Bell Message-ID: >DATE: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 19:19:36 >From: Caige >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Hello: > >I'm a Canadian broadcaster in Victoria, BC. When living back east, the >Boston area had a local sports broadcaster by the name of Upton Bell. >What has become of him? I always enjoyed his quick wit and his on air >banter. Would be great to hear some of his shows live over the >internet. > >Thanks, > >Dave from Victoria, BC > I don't think he has a regular on-air gig these days, but just yesterday (03/24) he appeared on a talk show originating at New England Cable News in Newton, Mass, discussing gambling on college basketball. Laurence Glavin Methuen, MA ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From fox893@yahoo.com Fri Mar 26 08:54:21 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Fri Mar 26 08:55:18 2004 Subject: So where does this put "Howard Stern via Satellite"? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040323215513.03600bf8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <20040326135421.41022.qmail@web61107.mail.yahoo.com> wasn't RNI one of Allen Weiner's projects? > > >3) So how would satellite transmission differ > from RNI's fate? > >Especially if > > >it originates in the US...wouldn't Stern just be > another renegade? Do > >we get > > >to keep the satellite? > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Mar 26 17:43:19 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Mar 26 17:43:41 2004 Subject: Reminder Message-ID: A reminder: the media show heard every Friday as part of WGBH/WGBX-TV's "Greater Boston" resumes again tonight (03/26) It will be on WGBH-TV channel 2 at 7:00 pm est; repeated at about midnight tonight on BOTH WGBH-TV and WGBX-TV 44; and repeated Sunday morning at 8:30 am in the morning on WGBX-TV ch 44. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From ssmyth@psu.edu Fri Mar 26 22:10:12 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri Mar 26 22:10:14 2004 Subject: 103.7 and the Red Sox Message-ID: <001d01c413a9$04cb7560$59464742@Sean> I read on the Boston radio-info board about the sale of 103.7 to Entercom for the purported WEEI simulcast. Talk there is centering about whether or not the Sox will air on 103.7, especially since WPRO is the Providence affiliate on the Sox radio network this year. However, since WWRX is licensed to Westerly, couldn't Entercom still put the games on 103.7? After all it (nominally) would be a Westerly affiliate on the Sox network. (Granted, the 103.7 signal is quite strong downtown Providence but it's also pretty strong throughout southern Massachusetts as well.) If approached that way I don't think WPRO/Citadel would have a leg to stand on - if Entercom pushed the issue. Of course I haven't seen the affiliate contract nor the broadcast rights contract so I could be speaking out of school. Thoughts? From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Mar 26 22:15:39 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Mar 26 22:16:08 2004 Subject: 103.7 and the Red Sox In-Reply-To: <001d01c413a9$04cb7560$59464742@Sean> References: <001d01c413a9$04cb7560$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <200403270315.i2R3FdIX096381@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > issue. Of course I haven't seen the affiliate contract nor the broadcast > rights contract so I could be speaking out of school. A smart lawyer would base the market exclusivity of a rights contract on a semi-reliable third-party source such as Arbitron ADIs (Areas of Dominant Influence). I don't believe that Westerly even counts as a separate radio market these days, by that standard. -GAWollman From kvahey@tmail.com Sat Mar 27 00:12:18 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat Mar 27 00:14:22 2004 Subject: 103.7 and the Red Sox In-Reply-To: <001d01c413a9$04cb7560$59464742@Sean> References: <001d01c413a9$04cb7560$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <1080364430.6C8E15C@w5.dngr.org> WPRO covers a lot of holes in SE Mass that 103.7 can't.....I don't see the Sox moving, The same situation exists in Worcester and the Sox stay on WTAG. On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:12pm, Sean Smyth wrote: > I read on the Boston radio-info board about the sale of 103.7 to > Entercom for the purported WEEI simulcast. Talk there is centering > about > whether or not the Sox will air on 103.7, especially since WPRO is the > Providence affiliate on the Sox radio network this year. > > However, since WWRX is licensed to Westerly, couldn't Entercom still > put > the games on 103.7? After all it (nominally) would be a Westerly > affiliate on the Sox network. (Granted, the 103.7 signal is quite > strong > downtown Providence but it's also pretty strong throughout southern > Massachusetts as well.) If approached that way I don't think > WPRO/Citadel would have a leg to stand on - if Entercom pushed the > issue. Of course I haven't seen the affiliate contract nor the > broadcast > rights contract so I could be speaking out of school. > > Thoughts? From ssmyth@psu.edu Sat Mar 27 00:49:32 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat Mar 27 00:49:41 2004 Subject: 103.7 and the Red Sox Message-ID: <200403270549.AAA07435@webmail9.cac.psu.edu> On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:12:18 +0000, Kevin Vahey wrote: > WPRO covers a lot of holes in SE Mass that 103.7 can't.....I don't see > the Sox moving, The same situation exists in Worcester and the Sox stay > on WTAG. I must admit I am not very familiar with the topography down that way (especially in the Dighton-Rehoboth-Fairhaven neck of the woods) but whenever I've driven through southern Mass. (for the purposes of this discussion...from I-84 eastward) I've always gotten a very good signal from 103.7. I don't see what "holes" they would have. On my walkman I got a crystal-clear signal from the old WWRX in Ashmont Station...what is that, three miles from downtown Boston? WTAG vs. WVEI is much different... you barely can get 1440 in Framingham *by day*, nevermind at night. From kvahey@tmail.com Sat Mar 27 00:59:33 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat Mar 27 00:59:54 2004 Subject: 103.7 and the Red Sox In-Reply-To: <200403270549.AAA07435@webmail9.cac.psu.edu> References: <200403270549.AAA07435@webmail9.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <1080367185.AA89148@s5.dngr.org> What makes this dicey is WPRO is owned by Citadel who owns WSKO the station WEEI will hurt badly in RI. WSKO is in trouble. WEEI already scores higher in afternoon drive in Providence over The Score with a weak signal. With WFAN also strong in RI they will be hard pressed to survive. From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Mar 27 07:46:42 2004 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Sat Mar 27 07:46:50 2004 Subject: Bush/Kerry ad coverage ... Message-ID: <002201c413f9$8ecdc150$6500a8c0@tony> Hi all, This is slightly off topic [not about radio but TV ads] but I don't know if anyone else saw this graph in the New York Times. It was posted on the Daily Kos blog: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/3/27/71513/0539 It shows where Bush, Kerry and the liberal independent expenditure groups are spending money and I thought it might be of interest to some of you. Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net http://politizine.blogspot.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sat Mar 27 09:28:25 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sat Mar 27 09:28:06 2004 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <200403270928.AA1890451692@mail.ttlc.net> Caige asked: >Hello: >I'm a Canadian broadcaster in Victoria, BC. When living back east, >the Boston area had a local sports broadcaster by the name of Upton >Bell. What has become of him? I always enjoyed his quick wit and >his on air banter. Would be great to hear some of his shows live over >the internet. Laurence Glavin replied: >I don't think he has a regular on-air gig these days, but >just yesterday (03/24) he appeared on a talk show originating >at New England Cable News in Newton, Mass, discussing >gambling on college basketball. Last night, he was a guest on WBZ's Paul Sulivan Show. He didn't mention any on-the-air gig, but WBZ has been scrupulous in their on-air censorship as of late. Can't let profanity, the mention of a bare breast or (God Forbid) another station's call letters offend the ears of the public. He does appear to be involved in a company (Play It Again Videos?) that produces a videotapes of peoples lives. It's "Your Legacy On Video Tape" or something akin to that. He has, naturally, produced one of himself. SOunds like vanity publishing taken to the next level. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Mar 27 11:41:15 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat Mar 27 11:41:21 2004 Subject: An example of . . . Message-ID: <000501c4141a$523644d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> why WMTW is a terrible TV station: Lost night Maine beat Harvard to advance in the NCAA hockey tournament. WMTW has the regional final game tonight. They are running a promo for the game today saying "Maine beats Harvard on Friday, we will have Saturday night's game." How hard would it have been to have produced a promo to run after Friday night's game only if Maine won? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sat Mar 27 13:35:22 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sat Mar 27 13:35:26 2004 Subject: Charlie Sherman (former Sports Director WMUR-TV 9 Manchester) Message-ID: <20040327183522.3173.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> A person I know in state government says Charlie Sherman is up for a very high position with the State of New Hampshire with the Dept of Resources and Economic Development. Charlie did have extensive banking experience before he joined WMUR-TV. I think he was a victim of all the bank mergers in NH in the late 1980's. John East Derry ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Mar 27 14:52:56 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Mar 27 14:53:13 2004 Subject: "Minor" Modification To WBUR CP Message-ID: Included in yesterday's (03/26) FCC Actions was a "minor" change to a long-standing CP for WBUR-FM. Previously, they were going to retain the 7.2 kw at the current antenna site with a modified DA pattern. Now they've been allowed to boost the ERP to 12 kw at the same antenna site with a yet more modified DA pattern. I assume the effective date of this CP depends on the movement of WUSM-FM from 91.1 to 89.3. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From ben@hrdent.com Sat Mar 27 16:34:54 2004 From: ben@hrdent.com (Ben Gore) Date: Sat Mar 27 17:44:18 2004 Subject: will FNX Broadcasting sell Maine next? In-Reply-To: <20040325044636.59018.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> References: <1080154449.4061d95110280@webmail.unh.edu> Message-ID: <4065AD2E.26369.24BC89@localhost> On 24 Mar 2004 at 20:46, Roy Lawrence wrote (in part): >Mount Hope in Sanford has never produced a decent signal for FM or TV. Channel 26 >over the air was hard to pull in at my parents home in Portland's North Deering section, >compared to the signal WENH Channel 11 put out, a good 60 miles further as the crow >flies to their Deerfield, N.H. TX site. Yes, but you are also talking about the difference between a UHF versus VHF signal in this example. You could say the same about Portland's TVs. In York County, I can get channel 26 without an antenna on my TV, and the Portland VHFs come in fairly well off air. The UHFs however are difficult to pull in without paying special care to the antenna system. But I do agree that Mount Hope is not a great broadcast site. It's only a bit over 600 feet above sea level, and 92.1 certainly doesn't have a huge amount of transmitter power to work with. The hill next door to it is at least 100 feet taller. It is certainly a stretch to try to cover Portland (or even Portsmouth I think) from there, and I can't imaging they are making a bundle from the Sanford operation. -Ben From dwcole@comcast.net Sat Mar 27 18:32:28 2004 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Sat Mar 27 18:32:37 2004 Subject: Charlie Sherman (former Sports Director WMUR-TV 9 Manchester) References: <20040327183522.3173.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000a01c41453$c4e04650$61f29318@HP310n> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" To: Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 1:35 PM Subject: Charlie Sherman (former Sports Director WMUR-TV 9 Manchester) > A person I know in state government says Charlie Sherman is up for a very > high position with the State of New Hampshire with the Dept of Resources > and Economic Development. > > Charlie did have extensive banking experience before he joined WMUR-TV. I > think he was a victim of all the bank mergers in NH in the late 1980's. > If Charlie replaces George Bald, who is leaving the job as head of the Dept of Resources and Economic Development to become executive director of the Pease Development Authority...watch out NH. That's like replacing Edward R. Murrow with Jerry Springer!! Dan Cole From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Mar 27 19:12:40 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat Mar 27 19:12:49 2004 Subject: Charlie Sherman (former Sports Director WMUR-TV 9 Manchester) In-Reply-To: <000a01c41453$c4e04650$61f29318@HP310n> References: <20040327183522.3173.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> <000a01c41453$c4e04650$61f29318@HP310n> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040327190345.027bbc10@mail.mac.com> At 06:32 PM 3/27/2004, Dan C wrote: >If Charlie replaces George Bald, who is leaving the job as head of the Dept >of Resources and Economic Development to become executive director of the >Pease Development Authority...watch out NH. That's like replacing Edward R. >Murrow with Jerry Springer!! I have a good reason why I wont knock Charlie unless there is something to knock him about. This stems from an instance I witnessed in a shopping mall a few years back. I saw Charlie doing some shopping. A fat kid, about 13 years old, who was probably the kind of kid who is unpopular and picked on by the other kids, recognized Charlie and approached him as he was shopping. Well, at this point Charlie could have just blown off the kid or just given him a quick autograph and then moved on. Instead, Charlie spent I estimate about 15 minutes talking to the kid, spending time, and trying to relate to the young man. This only ended when the kids mother came over to say they had to leave. I was really impressed by this show of compassion and this man being willing to give his time in this way. So, whatever Charlie chooses to do professionally or politically, I will always remember him for this act of being a real human being. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Mar 27 19:44:25 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Mar 27 19:44:27 2004 Subject: for oldies fans Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040327194338.027ff408@pop.registeredsite.com> Just heard on the news that Jan Berry, half of what was originally Jan and Arnie and then became best known as Jan & Dean, died of a stroke. He was 62. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Mar 27 23:59:07 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Mar 27 23:59:09 2004 Subject: Passover In-Reply-To: <200403270928.AA1890451692@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040327235825.0254bf98@pop.registeredsite.com> For those living near Boston who need a Passover seder to attend, contact me off-list-- there may be some room at our seder this year. From paul@03038.com Sat Mar 27 20:26:27 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sun Mar 28 09:16:22 2004 Subject: for oldies fans In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040327194338.027ff408@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <000401c414cf$b07bb6a0$0e87fea9@q0002> BTW; Was that you I heard on Paul Sullivan last week (Tue or Wed, I forget which night) at about 11:10PM? -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 7:44 PM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: for oldies fans Just heard on the news that Jan Berry, half of what was originally Jan and Arnie and then became best known as Jan & Dean, died of a stroke. He was 62. From dwcole@comcast.net Sun Mar 28 12:09:30 2004 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Sun Mar 28 12:09:36 2004 Subject: Charlie Sherman (former Sports Director WMUR-TV 9 Manchester) References: <20040327183522.3173.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com><000a01c41453$c4e04650$61f29318@HP310n> <6.0.3.0.2.20040327190345.027bbc10@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <000601c414e7$6eff9120$61f29318@HP310n> > I have a good reason why I wont knock Charlie unless there is something to > knock him about. This stems from an instance I witnessed in a shopping > mall a few years back. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking Charflie. He's been a friend for many years. So has George Bald. What I am saying is that they are two completely different personalities. George is quiet and effective, working behind the scenes. He's very good at it. Charlie is more open, agressive...let's get out front and do it now...sort of guy. Those use to dealing with George Bald will think they've been through a tornado after one session with Charlie. And that may not be so bad. Dan Cole From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Mar 28 12:47:13 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Mar 28 12:48:10 2004 Subject: WBNW 1120 AM off the air Message-ID: <001b01c414ec$d2007820$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I'm not sure just when WBNW 1120 AM went off the air; I don't think the station was on yesterday, Saturday, 3/27 and it hasn't been on when I checked today, Sunday, 3/28. Whatever the problem is, it seems to have been developing over a period of weeks. Until a month or so ago, WBNW had operated illegally for several years--never switching to its night facilities. Over a month ago, more-or-less coincidentally with the end of the station's overnight broadcast of ABC's satellite-fed Real Country format, WBNW began reducing power and changing patterns at sunset in accordance with the terms of its license. The mainstays of the new overnight lineup were TalkAmerica's Bruce Williams 7:00 PM to 10:00 PM, I believe, and Doug Stephan 4:00 AM to 9:00 AM. (I never did find out the rest of the overnight lineup; the daytime lineup has been mostly brokered financial talk and infomercials for herbal nostrums.) Clearing TalkAmerica probably had something to do with de-facto station owner Barry Armstrong's (as far as I know, owner of record is Armstrong's wife, Susan) moving of the syndication of his Monday thru Friday 9:00 AM to 11:00 AM Money Matters program to TalkAmerica. For the last week or so, WBNW has apparently been signing off more or less at sunset but has been on the air during the daytime. I had also noticed that WBNW seemed to sometimes be using its night facilities during the day. Although the night power (1 kW) is lower than the day power (nominally 5 kW), the station can't legally use its night pattern during the day, even at the lower power, because even at 1 kW, the night pattern sends too much signal toward first-adjacent WCEC 1110 Salem NH. Anyhow, lately, there have also been intermittent problems with audio quality; the audio has sounded quite distorted at least as often as it has sounded OK. It has not sounded good for a LONG time--probably since the station was WADN. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From paul@03038.com Sun Mar 28 15:19:13 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sun Mar 28 15:17:20 2004 Subject: Charlie Sherman (former Sports Director WMUR-TV 9 Manchester) In-Reply-To: <000601c414e7$6eff9120$61f29318@HP310n> Message-ID: <000f01c41502$1d8e4f00$0e87fea9@q0002> The replacement is NOT going to be Charlie Sherman. Maybe he'll be on the staff, but Benson's pick for director is someone else (Sean something...I can't find the article). -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Dan C Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 12:10 PM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Charlie Sherman (former Sports Director WMUR-TV 9 Manchester) > I have a good reason why I wont knock Charlie unless there is something to > knock him about. This stems from an instance I witnessed in a shopping > mall a few years back. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking Charflie. He's been a friend for many years. So has George Bald. What I am saying is that they are two completely different personalities. George is quiet and effective, working behind the scenes. He's very good at it. Charlie is more open, agressive...let's get out front and do it now...sort of guy. Those use to dealing with George Bald will think they've been through a tornado after one session with Charlie. And that may not be so bad. Dan Cole From fox893@yahoo.com Sun Mar 28 15:37:40 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Sun Mar 28 15:37:52 2004 Subject: Offtopic Powerpoint issues Message-ID: <20040328203740.93467.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> Currently attempting to setup a slide presentation with Powerpoint 2003 (XP). The goal is to create a slideshow that changes in time with the 58 minute long audio presentation. Slide transitions work fine until we add the audio, at that point the first slide just sits there and waits until the audio is finished. What we need to do is set the audio options to play while the slides transition. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thnaks __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From billo@shoreham.net Sun Mar 28 23:05:54 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Mar 28 23:06:10 2004 Subject: Morning Edition Message-ID: <001501c41543$21fc46f0$0200a8c0@boneill> Is there truth to the radio rumor that NPR's dumping Bob Edwards from his longstanding gig at Morning Edition? Bill O'Neill From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Mar 28 23:21:31 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun Mar 28 23:21:36 2004 Subject: Morning Edition In-Reply-To: <001501c41543$21fc46f0$0200a8c0@boneill> References: <001501c41543$21fc46f0$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: At 11:05 PM -0500 3/28/04, Bill O'Neill wrote: >Is there truth to the radio rumor that NPR's dumping Bob Edwards from his >longstanding gig at Morning Edition? It's not a rumor, it's been extensively reported. Edwards is being "promoted" to senior correspondent or something like that. It's supposedly to freshen the show. He was a guest on this weeks "On The Media" discussing the change. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Mar 28 23:33:41 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Mar 28 23:33:48 2004 Subject: Morning Edition References: <001501c41543$21fc46f0$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <001401c41547$03cdd960$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Boston Radio Interest (E-mail)" Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 11:05 PM Subject: Morning Edition > Is there truth to the radio rumor that NPR's dumping Bob Edwards from his > longstanding gig at Morning Edition? Yep, it was announced last week. From scott@fybush.com Sun Mar 28 23:40:44 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun Mar 28 23:40:51 2004 Subject: Morning Edition In-Reply-To: <001401c41547$03cdd960$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <001501c41543$21fc46f0$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040328233936.036d7e00@gwind.pair.com> At 11:33 PM 3/28/2004 -0500, Dan Billings wrote: > > Is there truth to the radio rumor that NPR's dumping Bob Edwards from his > > longstanding gig at Morning Edition? > >Yep, it was announced last week. There is, however, no truth to the rumor that I'm rocketing up the NPR ladder from my just-begun gig as fill-in All Things Considered host at Rochester's WXXI to become Bob's replacement on Morning Edition... s ("NERW readers support us, as do...") From kvahey@tmail.com Mon Mar 29 00:54:01 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon Mar 29 00:54:36 2004 Subject: speaking of Upton Bell Message-ID: <1080539641.46ECB04@r5.dngr.org> He was featured in the MetroWest Sunday News on March 27, 2004 He reinvents himself more than Madonna." -- Channel 4 producer Jackie Connally, on Upton Bell http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/sportsColumnists/view.bg? articleid=64221 From kvahey@tmail.com Mon Mar 29 01:26:33 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon Mar 29 01:26:46 2004 Subject: Upton Bell fixed link Message-ID: <1080541595.77CD10B@w37.dngr.org> Of course as soon as I post the link they move it Upton Bell take 2 http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/sportsColumnists/view.bg?articleid=64221 From kvahey@tmail.com Mon Mar 29 18:09:42 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon Mar 29 18:10:05 2004 Subject: Only the good die young Message-ID: <1080601791.30FC4D2D@w37.dngr.org> I worked with a guy named Chris Thomas in Florida at WFLA and I was saddened to learn he passed a month ago at the age of 55. Chris was a loose canyon but was beloved in Tampa Bay. I am passing on this link as it tells the story of how he got fired at WBAL TV in Baltimore in 1988 It is a classic broadcast story. http://sports.tbo.com/sports/MGAO40VOVQD.html From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Mon Mar 29 20:20:55 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Mon Mar 29 20:19:43 2004 Subject: Only the good die young In-Reply-To: <1080601791.30FC4D2D@w37.dngr.org> Message-ID: <000401c415f5$40cc05e0$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Kevin wrote: >> I worked with a guy named Chris Thomas in Florida at WFLA and I was saddened to learn he passed a month ago at the age of 55. Chris was a loose canyon but was beloved in Tampa Bay. I am passing on this link as it tells the story of how he got fired at WBAL TV in Baltimore in 1988 It is a classic broadcast story. http://sports.tbo.com/sports/MGAO40VOVQD.html << Kevin, sorry to hear of the passing of your friend. The story is one of which broadcast lore is made. Thanks for sharing the link. - -Chuck Igo From kvahey@tmail.com Mon Mar 29 21:32:02 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Mon Mar 29 21:32:11 2004 Subject: Only the good die young Message-ID: <1080613922.1418D10C@r5.dngr.org> He was a great guy WFLA-TV put together a tribute to him. Very nicely done http://sports.tbo.com/sports/MGAOH7J1VQD.html On 03/30/04 at 01:20 Chuck Igo wrote: > Kevin, > sorry to hear of the passing of your friend. The story is one of > which broadcast lore is made. Thanks for sharing the link. > > - -Chuck Igo From markwats@comcast.net Tue Mar 30 05:58:35 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue Mar 30 05:57:04 2004 Subject: Alistair Cooke Has Passed Away Message-ID: <001301c41645$f9744e40$64f88018@markscomputer> I just saw on the news that Alistair Cooke has died at the age of 95 in New York City. Cooke recently retired from the BBC after 58 years of hosting his program "Letter From America", reported to be the world's longest running speech radio program. Cooke was also the longtime host of "Masterpiece Theater" on PBS. Mark Watson From fox893@yahoo.com Tue Mar 30 06:17:17 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Tue Mar 30 06:17:35 2004 Subject: Alistair Cooke Has Passed Away In-Reply-To: <001301c41645$f9744e40$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <20040330111717.51801.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Yes, it may be morbid, but... Is it just me or does it seem that mant broadcasters die shortly after retiring? --- Mark Watson wrote: > I just saw on the news that Alistair Cooke has > died at the age of 95 in > New York City. Cooke recently retired from the BBC > after 58 years of hosting > his program "Letter From America", reported to be > the world's longest > running speech radio program. Cooke was also the > longtime host of > "Masterpiece Theater" on PBS. > > Mark Watson > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Mar 30 06:27:45 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Tue Mar 30 06:27:49 2004 Subject: Alistair Cooke Has Passed Away References: <20040330111717.51801.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000b01c4164a$060a8440$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Fox" To: "Mark Watson" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 6:17 AM Subject: Re: Alistair Cooke Has Passed Away > > Yes, it may be morbid, but... Is it just me or does > it seem that mant broadcasters die shortly after > retiring? Could it be that many broadcasters work until there health is very poor? In this case, the broadcaster in question was 95 when he retired so I wouldn't read much into it. ;-) -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From gary@garysicecream.com Tue Mar 30 14:48:18 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Tue Mar 30 14:49:00 2004 Subject: WMUR-TV 9 Anniversary show tonight Message-ID: <004101c41690$03ea3980$6500a8c0@office> Tonight is the night for the 50th Anniversary Special on WMUR-TV 9 from 7:30 - 10. 2 and 1/2 hours of memories from NH's original TV station (and one of the last stations in America to go color). -Gary's Ice Cream Chelmsford, MA www.garysicecream.com From markwats@comcast.net Tue Mar 30 16:24:27 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue Mar 30 16:22:37 2004 Subject: WMUR-TV 9 Anniversary show tonight References: <004101c41690$03ea3980$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: <001c01c4169d$62113d30$64f88018@markscomputer> Gary Francis wrote: > Tonight is the night for the 50th Anniversary Special on WMUR-TV9 >from7:30 - 10. > 2 and 1/2 hours of memories from NH's original TV station (and one >of the last stations in America to go color). What are they going to fill 2 and a half hours with? Unless someone has a secret stash of material from their "pre-historic days" (which is prior to 1981, when Imes bought them), I doubt we'll see any clips of Uncle Gus, Ring-A-Ding the Clown, or the famous Santa Claus specials from the 70's. And IIRC, they went 100% color in 1973. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Mark Watson From markwats@comcast.net Tue Mar 30 16:30:11 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue Mar 30 16:28:20 2004 Subject: Peter Brown Leaving WBZ-TV Message-ID: <002d01c4169e$2e899970$64f88018@markscomputer> Both the Herald & Globe reporting today that WBZ-TV (a/k/a CBS 4) News Director Peter Brown is leaving the station next month to take a PR position with Brigham & Women's Hospital in Boston. Assistant News Director Matt Ellis will take over as acting ND while a replacement is sought. Mark Watson From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Mar 30 17:24:22 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Mar 30 17:24:48 2004 Subject: Jay Severin Globe Op-ed On Liberal Talk Radio Message-ID: Jay Severin, who has incessantly been scourged by the Globe throughout his career at 96.9 FM talk, penned an op-ed in today's (03/30) Globe about the soon-to-debut "liberal" talk radio network. Read all about it at: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/03/30/liberal_talk_radio_no_one_will_buy_it The drive-time flame thrower neglected to mention that Air America's offerings will NOT be heard in Boston for now; but how would Severin know that? Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From scott@fybush.com Tue Mar 30 21:29:34 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Mar 30 21:29:40 2004 Subject: WMUR 50th...anybody taping it? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040330212745.03687d70@gwind.pair.com> I wish I'd known about this in advance! Is anybody rolling tape? I'll pay... :-) s From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Mar 31 00:14:11 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed Mar 31 00:14:20 2004 Subject: WMUR 50th...anybody taping it? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040330212745.03687d70@gwind.pair.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040330212745.03687d70@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: At 9:29 PM -0500 3/30/04, Scott Fybush wrote: >I wish I'd known about this in advance! Is anybody rolling tape? >I'll pay... :-) It's being repeated Saturday at 12:30 PM. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Mar 31 17:00:47 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Mar 31 17:01:15 2004 Subject: WMUR 50th...anybody taping it? Message-ID: >DATE: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 00:14:11 >From: Larry Weil >To: bri@bostonradio.org >At 9:29 PM -0500 3/30/04, Scott Fybush wrote: > >>I wish I'd known about this in advance! Is anybody rolling tape? >>I'll pay... :-) > >It's being repeated Saturday at 12:30 PM. > >-- >Larry Weil >Lake Wobegone, NH > I caught the second hour in-progress. I think I'd like to see the opening segment if it showed construction of the tower on Mt. Uncanoonuc(sp?) and installation of the equipment back at 1819 Elm. During the portion I saw, everyone remarked on how cramped the original facilities were. Was WMUR-AM 610 also there; the current WGIR facility on Starke Ln by the AM towers looks as though it might have been the home of the radio station from the start. I've heard some people say that in the pre-cable days, channel 9 had very low viewership because all the fixed TV antennas (i.e. without rotators) were pointed toward Boston and the picture on WMUR was almost cancelled out. (Mt. Uncanoonuc is WNW of Manchester) ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From n1qgs@yahoo.com Wed Mar 31 17:48:58 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed Mar 31 17:49:02 2004 Subject: TV Announcer Art James Dies at 74 Message-ID: <20040331224858.58161.qmail@web12504.mail.yahoo.com> Just read that TV Announcer Art James Dies at 74 John East Derry NH ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html