From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Feb 1 00:08:28 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Feb 1 00:08:40 2004 Subject: Infinity Broadcasting Job Fair References: <4.3.1.2.20040131230849.01ac2ab0@pop.gis.net> Message-ID: <000501c3e881$6dfbce70$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Bello" To: ; Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Infinity Broadcasting Job Fair > > Heard the same ad on WODS. > It is on their web site. > > Interesting that WODS no longer has the URLs > oldies103.com or WODS.com. Corporate bean > counters at work. What is their URL? From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Feb 1 00:12:54 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Feb 1 00:12:58 2004 Subject: Super Bowl on HDTV Message-ID: <000b01c3e882$0c2d8c50$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Earlier this week, the Portland Press Herald had an article about the dispute between WGME and Time Warner over payment for Time Warner having the right to carry WGME's HDTV signal. The contract between the parties has ended and though they have agreed that Time Warner can continue to carry WGME's analog signal while negotiations continue, WGME has refused to allow Time Warner to pick up its HDTV signal so Time Warner's HDTV subscribers will not get the Super Bowl on Time Warner. The funny thing about the article was that the it said that Time Warner's subscribers would not be able to get the Super Bowl in the HD format. The author seemed to miss the fact that Time Warner's subscribers still had the option of getting WGME's HDTV signal over the air. Is a big antenna required to get HD signals? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From ben@hrdent.com Sun Feb 1 00:37:41 2004 From: ben@hrdent.com (Ben Gore) Date: Sun Feb 1 00:35:46 2004 Subject: Super Bowl on HDTV References: <000b01c3e882$0c2d8c50$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <401C90A5.3090000@hrdent.com> Dan Billings wrote (in part): >Is a big antenna required to get HD signals? > > Big is, of course, a relative term. But the size and gain of the required antenna would depend mostly on the receiver's proximity to the transmitter and the terrain between the two. This is more critical with the UHF (digital or analog) signals than VHF signals. You don't need as large an antenna to have high gain at UHF. The other component that many people fail to recognize is cable line loss between to antenna and the receiver is much more significant at UHF than VHF, and UHF is less forgiving of poor quality components and connections in the antenna system. But with HDTV it's all or nothing, so most people will know quickly if they can find a "hot spot" for the HDTV signal. I suspect for most people in Cumberland County, it shouldn't be much of a problem with a moderately capable antenna or even a good old bow tie on the rabbit ears. Beyond that something more substantial probably will be required. -Ben From sid@wrko.com Sun Feb 1 09:41:39 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun Feb 1 09:42:04 2004 Subject: Infinity Broadcasting Job Fair Message-ID: >>What is their URL?<< www.oldies1033.com Sid Schweiger MIS Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun Feb 1 11:27:42 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sun Feb 1 11:28:38 2004 Subject: Infinity Broadcasting Job Fair References: Message-ID: <007901c3e8e0$5159bde0$6500a8c0@brianhome> Could it be that Infinity does not want the stations to know about a restaffing? Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 75 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5626 USA Sales: (800)231-8849/Sales Fax (800)329-2775 Bus Ofc +1-978-538-7575/Business Ofc Fax +1-978-538-7550 www.cssinc.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "KEVIN GOODWIN" To: Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:20 PM Subject: Infinity Broadcasting Job Fair > On Friday while listening to WZLX I heard a promo for an Infinity Broadcasting job fair to be held on Feb 10th. The promo said to sign up at the WZLX website with no phone calls to ZLX. I went to the WZLX website to sign up, but found no link for the job fair. I called ZLX to find out where the link is, and they don't know either. I was told to go to the Infinity Radio website. Needless to say, nothing there either. Talk about deceptive advertising. Does anybody on the list know where the job fair is going to be held? I would like to know. I would like to go to it. > > Kevin Goodwin > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! > http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 > From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Sun Feb 1 11:40:33 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Feb 1 11:40:40 2004 Subject: Today's LTAR: the Gamblings Message-ID: <20040201164033.67998.qmail@web60805.mail.yahoo.com> On today's Let's Talk About Radio, Bob mentioned the passing of John A. Gambling (at 73) of WOR. He was the son of John B. Gambling. Bob said something like "...with no more Gamblings on the radio"... Well, not at WOR, but there IS still a Gambling family member on: John A.'s son John R. does mid-mornings at WABC. (WABC is flagship to the Sean Hannity show, and Sean's former producer Jill, aka "Flipper", now works for the Gambling show; she made an appearance on Sean's show recently and it was mentioned that she worked for Gambling now) From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Feb 1 15:40:54 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Feb 1 15:41:41 2004 Subject: anybody got a reel-to-reel? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040201153930.02600010@pop.registeredsite.com> I just found some old reel to reel tapes from my college days and need a working reel to reel recorder to listen to them and see what's on them. Does anybody who lives in Massachusetts have a machine and some time when I could sit and listen? From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Feb 1 17:01:22 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Feb 1 17:02:03 2004 Subject: WCOP 1942 In-Reply-To: <1075668473.3B02AEFB@w5.dngr.org> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040201153930.02600010@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040201153930.02600010@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040201165438.014efe58@pop.registeredsite.com> >Kevin asked-- > >Picture is in new book Fire in Boston and showns Marty Sheridan >interviewing Buck Jones the day of fire. The initials on mike I have no >clue AON or ACN Been sick all week and just catching up on e-mails. ACN referred to Atlantic Coast Network, which was actually run by the soon to be discredited Harold LaFount of WNEW in NY. (LaFount would have FCC problems...) In 1942, WNEW shared certain transcribed programs with its 5 affiliates, from what I can gather. 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Message-ID: There's no guarantee, but today's (02/02) Globe had a radio listing for a college hockey game tonight starting at 7:00 pm on WBIX-AM 1060. It's possible that the group putting on the game, part of the "Beanpot" run-up I believe, included WBIX because they were promised that AM 1060 would be full-time by now. It will bear checking out. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 From billo@shoreham.net Mon Feb 2 21:31:08 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Feb 2 21:31:25 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused Message-ID: <000a01c3e9fd$c8f8eba0$0300a8c0@boneill> So, there you have it. Super Bowl XVXIVXXIV. Janet Jackson, an over-the-hill lame talent, begging to be relevant, flips-off her customers by staging an OOPS at half-time. The next day, we're not hearing about a decent football game, or NE's second win in three years, great coaching, teamwork. Instead, it's another reason why the entire Jackson family should just go away and be very quiet. Bill O'Neill From ssmyth@psu.edu Mon Feb 2 21:45:47 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon Feb 2 21:46:01 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <000a01c3e9fd$c8f8eba0$0300a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <001301c3e9ff$d4394080$59464742@Sean> Bill O. writes: << So, there you have it. Super Bowl XVXIVXXIV. Janet Jackson, an over-the-hill lame talent, begging to be relevant, flips off her customers by staging an OOPS at half-time. The next day, we're not hearing about a decent football game, or NE's second win in three years, great coaching, teamwork. Instead, it's another reason why the entire Jackson family should just go away and be very quiet. >> Are you blaming the incident on Janet Jackson? Last I checked she didn't rip her own clothing off. I heard on SportsCenter that Michael Powell has apparently ordered an investigation into the antics. I'm presuming CBS, and not MTV (the producer of the show), Justin Timberlake or the NFL, would get fined if a penalty was handed down? From billo@shoreham.net Mon Feb 2 22:01:38 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Feb 2 22:01:46 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <001301c3e9ff$d4394080$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <001301c3ea02$0b474480$0300a8c0@boneill> Sean inquires: > Are you blaming the incident on Janet Jackson? Last I checked > she didn't > rip her own clothing off. As I suspected would happen, Jackson has since put out a statement that the performance was an example of poor judgment. If I suspected that she was some sort of "victim" I would not have made sport, rest assured. Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Feb 2 22:40:52 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon Feb 2 22:40:56 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused References: <000a01c3e9fd$c8f8eba0$0300a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <000c01c3ea07$85a79950$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> I actually watched the game and much of the half-time show (I kind of like Kid Rock) but I turned away when Justin Timberlake came on and missed the big event. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Feb 2 23:45:30 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon Feb 2 23:45:36 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <000a01c3e9fd$c8f8eba0$0300a8c0@boneill> References: <000a01c3e9fd$c8f8eba0$0300a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: At 9:31 PM -0500 2/2/04, Bill O'Neill wrote: >The next day, we're not hearing about a decent football game, or >NE's second win in three years, great coaching, teamwork. > >Instead, it's another reason why the entire Jackson family should just go away >and be very quiet. And judging from the reaction of most of the talk show hosts, this must be the biggest problem our country is facing. It got a lot more air time than the president appointing a commission to study intelligence concerning WMD's or not in Iraq. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From Mailer-Daemon@m1.dnsix.com Tue Feb 3 03:09:54 2004 From: Mailer-Daemon@m1.dnsix.com (Mail Delivery System) Date: Tue Feb 3 02:28:52 2004 Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Message-ID: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. 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<001301c3ea44$75538770$64f88018@markscomputer> Bill O'Neill wrote: > As I suspected would happen, Jackson has since put out a statement that the > performance was an example of poor judgment. Now that the FCC is involved, I wonder who will they fault and fine? CBS bailed out as quick as they could IMHO, but CBS' parent company owns MTV, who put on the halftime festivities. Could the FCC levy fines against Janet Jackson and or Justin Timberlake? Will this fiasco come back to haunt CBS come NFL contract renewal time? Mark Watson From sid@wrko.com Tue Feb 3 06:26:21 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue Feb 3 07:26:13 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused Message-ID: >>Now that the FCC is involved, I wonder who will they fault and fine? CBS bailed out as quick as they could IMHO, but CBS' parent company owns MTV, who put on the halftime festivities. Could the FCC levy fines against Janet Jackson and or Justin Timberlake?<< The FCC has no direct jurisdiction over CBS, MTV, or the singers. None of them needs an FCC license to perform their normal daily activities. IIRC, all they can do is fine any CBS affiliate that carried the half-time show, which would of course be the ultimate "gotcha," since the show was live. >>Will this fiasco come back to haunt CBS come NFL contract renewal time?<< Doubtful. NFL officials have already stated publicly that they will not permit MTV to produce another half-time show, so that is irrelevant to any contract talks. (Why MTV was producing a show at a family event in the first place is beyond comprehension, but that's another discussion.) Sid Schweiger MIS Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From sid@wrko.com Tue Feb 3 06:18:11 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue Feb 3 07:26:15 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused Message-ID: >>Are you blaming the incident on Janet Jackson? Last I checked she didn't rip her own clothing off.<< OK. Everyone who actually believes Justin Timberlake's lame apology/explanation ("wardrobe malfunction") raise their hands. You over there: Not so fast. ;-) NWIH that wasn't planned...by BOTH of them...including the "what the f*** just happened?" expression on Janet Jackson's face. Sid Schweiger MIS Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Feb 3 08:19:28 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Feb 3 08:18:02 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <001301c3ea44$75538770$64f88018@markscomputer> References: <001301c3ea02$0b474480$0300a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040203081143.009f6610@pop3.bit-net.com> Mark Watson wrote: > Now that the FCC is involved, I wonder who will they fault and fine? CBS >bailed out as quick as they could IMHO, but CBS' parent company owns MTV, >who put on the halftime festivities. Could the FCC levy fines against Janet >Jackson and or Justin Timberlake? Does the FCC really have so little work to do that they have time and resources to waste pursuing this? Every pirate broadcaster permanently silenced, no AMs "forgetting" to power down at sunset, etc? When Bono dropped the F-bomb on one of those interchangeable awards shows, it was ruled to have been acceptable in certain contexts, why do we think that heads will roll because of this? I fail to see how the FCC needs to be poking around here. My guess is that CBS had no idea that this stunt (and it was a stunt) was gonna happen. So we saw more of Janet than we really needed to see...it's not like it's the end of the world or anything. > Will this fiasco come back to haunt CBS come NFL contract renewal time? Is there such a bad thing as bad publicity? From sid@wrko.com Tue Feb 3 08:51:41 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue Feb 3 09:48:02 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused Message-ID: >>Does the FCC really have so little work to do that they have time and resources to waste pursuing this?... I fail to see how the FCC needs to be poking around here.<< You forget: This is an election year, and decency on the airwaves is something that everyone is for (at least, everyone who wants to keep their job as some district's elected representative, if you get my drift). The sight of politicians falling all over each other to harrumph about a naked breast is actually funny...or pathetic, I can't decide which...but pirate broadcasters and AM stations failing to make mode changes don't energize Congress-creatures (and therefore the voters) the way the f-word and a naked breast do. Meanwhile, the rest of the world is howling with laughter, seeing as how the country with (supposedly) the most individual freedom is in an uproar over a word and a bit of human anatomy. Sid Schweiger MIS Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From sven@gordsven.com Tue Feb 3 10:17:39 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Tue Feb 3 10:17:46 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Sid Schweiger wrote: > IIRC, all they can do is fine any CBS affiliate that carried the > half-time show, which would of course be the ultimate "gotcha," since Wait a minute, how can the FCC fine the CBS relays for just carrying something? That's not fair. They weren't expecting this to happen.... From sid@wrko.com Tue Feb 3 10:35:07 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue Feb 3 10:36:59 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused Message-ID: >>Wait a minute, how can the FCC fine the CBS relays for just carrying something? That's not fair. They weren't expecting this to happen....<< That what I meant by "the ultimate 'gotcha.'" Theoretically they can fine the stations...it was, by FCC definition, indecent. Realistically, it would be grossly unfair, and tied up in the courts for quite a while. Remember too that CBS, although not regulated as a network, owns TV stations which would be subject to fines too. Sid Schweiger MIS Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From nuhuc@juno.com Tue Feb 3 10:52:55 2004 From: nuhuc@juno.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Tue Feb 3 10:56:10 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused Message-ID: <20040203.075315.5165.826762@webmail03.lax.untd.com> -- SteveOrdinetz wrote: >>Does the FCC really have so little work to do that they have time and resources to waste pursuing this?<< I'm actually a little surprised that Powell has made the statemetns he has. He's in the same FCC that has advocated "letting the marketplace decide" and massive deregulation, right? Maybe when your own kids are watching, the rules change? -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue Feb 3 11:22:08 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue Feb 3 11:22:13 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000401c3ea71$df6925c0$c3ec33d1@alvin> > >>Wait a minute, how can the FCC fine the CBS relays for just carrying > something? That's not fair. They weren't expecting this to > happen....<< > > That what I meant by "the ultimate 'gotcha.'" Theoretically > they can fine the stations...it was, by FCC definition, > indecent. Realistically, it would be grossly unfair, and > tied up in the courts for quite a while. > > Remember too that CBS, although not regulated as a network, > owns TV stations which would be subject to fines too. > This may be a situation where crap rolls up hill. If the stations and affiliates are fined, I can see the litigation working its way up the food chain to MTV and Janet Jackson's organization to subrogate the damages. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Feb 3 16:41:35 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Feb 3 16:42:01 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused Message-ID: >DATE: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 10:35:07 >From: "Sid Schweiger" >To: Cc: >>>Wait a minute, how can the FCC fine the CBS relays for just carrying >something? That's not fair. They weren't expecting this to happen....<< > >That what I meant by "the ultimate 'gotcha.'" Theoretically they can fine the stations...it was, by FCC definition, indecent. Realistically, it would be grossly unfair, and tied up in the courts for quite a while. > >Remember too that CBS, although not regulated as a network, owns TV stations which would be subject to fines too. > An interesting sidebar: no station carrying the show had any inkling of what would happen (unless they read MTV.com I hear) so they could plead ignorance. But Monday night, channel 2's "Greater Boston" played the tape unexpurgated and in unpixelated, in contrast to broadcast and cable channels that covered the uncovering. Will WGBH-TV now be subject to an FCC fine because they CHOSE to air what they knew in advance was potentially scandalous. I recall seeing fines levied on public radio stations; does anyone recall a PTV station being sanctioned. (And I wonder if the Friday "Beat the Press" segment of "Greater Boston" will reprise the unexpurgated showing when the panel discusses it!) Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Feb 3 19:21:19 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Tue Feb 3 19:21:24 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused References: <20040203.075315.5165.826762@webmail03.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <001601c3eab4$cfbe3d70$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> It is interesting how the general reaction here is against FCC action, but the general reaction here was in favor of action against Opie and Anthony when the FCC was against them. Now my position, on both issues, is let the market decide. But I see a bigger problem with offensive content on the Super Bowl than on the a show like O&A, where most who tune in know what to expect. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Wed Feb 4 00:23:49 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Wed Feb 4 00:23:57 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <001601c3eab4$cfbe3d70$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <20040204052349.4327.qmail@web12824.mail.yahoo.com> On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 19:21:19 -0500 Dan Billings wrote: > It is interesting how the general reaction here is > against FCC action, but > the general reaction here was in favor of action > against Opie and Anthony > when the FCC was against them. Now my position, on > both issues, is let the > market decide. But I see a bigger problem with > offensive content on the > Super Bowl than on the a show like O&A, where most > who tune in know what to > expect. This brings up an interesting topic. Although this is more of a generic idea, what is more harmful - a female baring their breast on national TV, or someone carrying out an absolute desecration of a place of worship, and describing everything happening there in gory detail live on the air. I personally think what Opie and Anthony did was far worse than what Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake did, but our society in general is so taboo/"can't have any of it, must pretend that it does not exist" about nudity that I'm afraid that the Super Bowl halftime show may be dealt with more severely than O&A. As far as the market deciding, it will - it did with O&A (they lost their show and are now off the air) and it will in this case too, whether or not any of us agree with how it decides. Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Feb 4 01:26:52 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Feb 4 01:27:09 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <40204A5C.29511.622B99@localhost> On 3 Feb 2004 at 8:51, Sid Schweiger wrote: > You forget: This is an election year, and decency on the airwaves is > something that everyone is for (at least, everyone who wants to keep their > job as some district's elected representative, if you get my drift). The > sight of politicians falling all over each other to harrumph about a naked > breast is actually funny...or pathetic, I can't decide which...but pirate > broadcasters and AM stations failing to make mode changes don't energize > Congress-creatures (and therefore the voters) the way the f-word and a > naked breast do. What's really dumb is that nobody complained at all about the lyrics of the song they were singing, all about getting naked and having sex. And, for that matter, nobody complained about the bad taste of many of the commercials. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Feb 4 01:26:52 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Feb 4 01:27:18 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <20040203.075315.5165.826762@webmail03.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <40204A5C.26774.622C0E@localhost> On 3 Feb 2004 at 15:52, Rick Kelly wrote: > I'm actually a little surprised that Powell has made the statemetns he > has. He's in the same FCC that has advocated "letting the marketplace > decide" and massive deregulation, right? Maybe when your own kids are > watching, the rules change? Deregulation and letting the marketplace decide and "getting the government off our backs" has never applied to sex. As Josh Lyman on "The West Wing" once said, "You people want to shrink government so that it's just small enough to fit in our bedrooms." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From kvahey@tmail.com Wed Feb 4 01:46:50 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed Feb 4 01:47:12 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <40204A5C.26774.622C0E@localhost> References: <40204A5C.26774.622C0E@localhost> Message-ID: <1075877213.28D497C1@s29.dngr.org> Nice hole they have dug for themselves They could decide Infinity/CBS Mass Media/Viacom/other shell is an UNFIT broadcaster Look Viacom will happily pay any fines.....they need a license yanked, but how many and where? The points built up with not airing and ad in SB, and killing Reagan movie adding up. On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 1:29am, A. Joseph Ross wrote: From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Wed Feb 4 02:00:54 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Wed Feb 4 02:00:36 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused References: <40204A5C.26774.622C0E@localhost> <1075877213.28D497C1@s29.dngr.org> Message-ID: <001901c3eaec$a3e85680$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> > They could decide Infinity/CBS Mass Media/Viacom/other shell is an UNFIT > broadcaster Considering RKO General got a license yanked (and forfieted millions) for a much smaller offense. > The points built up with not airing and ad in SB, and killing Reagan > movie adding up. Huh? JP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "A. Joseph Ross" <>; "Rick Kelly" <> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 1:46 AM Subject: Re: Uncle Charlie's not amused > Nice hole they have dug for themselves > > They could decide Infinity/CBS Mass Media/Viacom/other shell is an UNFIT > broadcaster > > Look Viacom will happily pay any fines.....they need a license yanked, > but how many and where? > > > > On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 1:29am, A. Joseph Ross wrote: From kvahey@tmail.com Wed Feb 4 02:40:17 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed Feb 4 02:40:30 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <001901c3eaec$a3e85680$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> References: <40204A5C.26774.622C0E@localhost> <1075877213.28D497C1@s29.dngr.org> <001901c3eaec$a3e85680$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <1075880421.2BFA230F@s29.dngr.org> CBS didn't run the antiBush ad, they caved on the Reagan mini series. Michael Powell serves at "the pleasure of the President" Nothing major will happen, no WBZ or KDKA will get yanked, maybe something like 1230 AM in Cheektowga will be pulled. The whole system is a joke. On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 2:00am, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > >> The points built up with not airing and ad in SB, and killing Reagan >> movie adding up. > > Huh? > > JP > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Vahey" > To: "A. Joseph Ross" <>; "Rick Kelly" <> > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 1:46 AM > Subject: Re: Uncle Charlie's not amused > > >> Nice hole they have dug for themselves >> >> They could decide Infinity/CBS Mass Media/Viacom/other shell is an >> UNFIT >> broadcaster >> >> Look Viacom will happily pay any fines.....they need a license yanked, >> but how many and where? >> > >> >> >> On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 1:29am, A. Joseph Ross wrote: From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Wed Feb 4 02:52:47 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Wed Feb 4 02:52:29 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused References: <40204A5C.26774.622C0E@localhost><1075877213.28D497C1@s29.dngr.org><001901c3eaec$a3e85680$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> <1075880421.2BFA230F@s29.dngr.org> Message-ID: <00b601c3eaf3$e3d5d4a0$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> > CBS didn't run the antiBush ad... They have that right as a broadcaster. And that should count towards losing a license? I think not. > they caved on the Reagan mini series. "Caved"? It was just a crappy movie. And they had a second chance to think it thru before running rubbish...and pissing off many viewers. Besides, that should count towards losing a license? I think not. > Michael Powell serves at "the pleasure of the President" And....? > Nothing major will happen, no WBZ or KDKA will get yanked, maybe > something like 1230 AM in Cheektowga will be pulled. Did you think for a moment that anything serious would happen? > The whole system is a joke. What do you expect from Gov't. beauracracy? From MAILER-DAEMON@backup01.mx.datapipe.net Wed Feb 4 03:00:20 2004 From: MAILER-DAEMON@backup01.mx.datapipe.net (MAILER-DAEMON@backup01.mx.datapipe.net) Date: Wed Feb 4 03:08:09 2004 Subject: failure notice Message-ID: <200402040808.i14882DZ022527@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at backup01.mx.datapipe.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. : 216.109.146.63 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 553 ... No such user here Giving up on 216.109.146.63. --- Below this line is a copy of the message. 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will be alive. >>Look Viacom will happily pay any fines.....they need a license yanked, but how many and where?<< If Viacom is deemed an unfit broadcaster, ALL their licenses are at risk. They don't get to pick and choose. >>The points built up with not airing and ad in SB, and killing Reagan movie adding up.<< ...neither of which are any of the FCC's business. Refusing an ad and bumping the Reagan movie are perfectly legal activities. Sid Schweiger MIS Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From fox893@yahoo.com Wed Feb 4 06:56:48 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Wed Feb 4 06:57:16 2004 Subject: Old Chart Data Message-ID: <20040204115648.83212.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Working on a fairly sizable project that requires me to grab old chart data. Does anyone know where I can get old Top40 and HAC charts online? Even a list of the weekly number ones would work. Thanks! ===== Magic 104 North Conway, NH V: (603)356-8870 F: (603)356-8875 Website: http://www.conwaymagic.com Audio At: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/fox893 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ From madprof@ix.netcom.com Wed Feb 4 09:22:03 2004 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (madprof) Date: Wed Feb 4 09:24:17 2004 Subject: Old Chart Data References: <20040204115648.83212.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ea01c3eb2a$43780a00$fdfee341@p133> this might help: Email list group broadcast-airchex@broadcast.net regularly sends charts from various stations, late 1950's - 1980's I have a few of theirs on file & could forward if wanted. - Madprof ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Fox" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 6:56 AM Subject: Old Chart Data > Working on a fairly sizable project that requires me > to grab old chart data. Does anyone know where I can > get old Top40 and HAC charts online? Even a list of > the weekly number ones would work. Thanks! > > ===== > Magic 104 > North Conway, NH > V: (603)356-8870 > F: (603)356-8875 > Website: http://www.conwaymagic.com > Audio At: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/fox893 > > From MAILER-DAEMON@mail3.webconsort.com Wed Feb 4 10:16:15 2004 From: MAILER-DAEMON@mail3.webconsort.com (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Date: Wed Feb 4 10:16:21 2004 Subject: Returned mail to jim@mail.webconsort.com Message-ID: <200402041516.i14FGGDZ026191@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> The following message could not be delivered to jim@mail.webconsort.com: We will not relay ---------------------------------------------- Received: from user30.net1118.fl.sprint-hsd.net [69.68.27.30] by mail3.webconsort.com; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 07:16:09 -0800 From: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org To: jim@webconsort.com Subject: hi Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:13:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_D13FD76C.9AE5A467" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal The message cannot be represented in 7-bit ASCII encoding and has been sent as a binary attachment. From abruzzese@biochem.bumc.bu.edu Wed Feb 4 10:50:18 2004 From: abruzzese@biochem.bumc.bu.edu (Tony Abruzzese) Date: Wed Feb 4 10:50:32 2004 Subject: Old Chart Data In-Reply-To: <20040204115648.83212.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040204115648.83212.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <402114BA.7060201@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> Cooper Fox wrote: >Working on a fairly sizable project that requires me >to grab old chart data. Does anyone know where I can >get old Top40 and HAC charts online? Even a list of >the weekly number ones would work. Thanks! > >===== >Magic 104 >North Conway, NH >V: (603)356-8870 >F: (603)356-8875 >Website: http://www.conwaymagic.com >Audio At: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/fox893 > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! >http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > > > > Apple's iTunes Store currently has a genre called Charts which are playlists based on Billboard's Hot 100 for the year indicated. Songs in the itunes library are organized by relative ranking in the event that the list is partial. You do need iTunes, Windows or Mac, to browse the store. The download is free from www.apple.com/itunes You do not need to establish an account to browse and sample the lists. Tony From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Wed Feb 4 16:13:19 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Wed Feb 4 16:06:56 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie and Snoop TIVO Dogg Message-ID: <200402041613.AA2728919374@mail.ttlc.net> In a CNN article today, TiVo corporation revealed second-by-second details of how TiVo users rewound and replayed the Janberlake nudity during SuperBowl half-time festivities. This seems just a little intrusive to me. How many TiVo owners truly know how closely they are being scrutinized? A quote: Michael Powell once called TiVo "God's machine" From wftn@comcast.net Wed Feb 4 19:28:25 2004 From: wftn@comcast.net (wftn@comcast.net) Date: Wed Feb 4 19:28:37 2004 Subject: Old Chart Data Message-ID: <020520040028.24426.6450@comcast.net> Hi Cooper, Try this link - this is for Cash Box magazine charts: http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/randypny/cashbox/index.html Gary Ford WFTN-FM Music Director > Working on a fairly sizable project that requires me > to grab old chart data. Does anyone know where I can > get old Top40 and HAC charts online? Even a list of > the weekly number ones would work. Thanks! > > ===== > Magic 104 > North Conway, NH > V: (603)356-8870 > F: (603)356-8875 > Website: http://www.conwaymagic.com > Audio At: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/fox893 > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Feb 4 20:37:34 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Wed Feb 4 20:37:37 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused References: <40204A5C.26774.622C0E@localhost><1075877213.28D497C1@s29.dngr.org><001901c3eaec$a3e85680$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> <1075880421.2BFA230F@s29.dngr.org> Message-ID: <001601c3eb88$a0f29d40$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Joseph Pappalardo" ; Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:40 AM Subject: Re: Uncle Charlie's not amused > Michael Powell serves at "the pleasure of the President" Is that true? I thought the FCC was an independent agency and the comissioners served for a fixed term and not at the pleasure of the President like a member of the cabinet.. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From sid@wrko.com Wed Feb 4 21:11:32 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed Feb 4 22:24:35 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused Message-ID: >>I thought the FCC was an independent agency and the comissioners served for a fixed term and not at the pleasure of the President like a member of the cabinet..<< Section 4 of the Communications Act (47 USC ?154): (a) The Federal Communications Commission (in this Act referred to as the ''Commission'') shall be composed of five Commissioners appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, one of whom the President shall designate as chairman. ... (c) Commissioners shall be appointed for terms of five years and until their successors are appointed and have been confirmed and taken the oath of office, except that they shall not continue to serve beyond the expiration of the next session of Congress subsequent to the expiration of said fixed term of office; except that any person chosen to fill a vacancy shall be appointed only for the unexpired term of the Commissioner whom he succeeds. ===================== Sid Schweiger MIS Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Feb 5 01:13:27 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Feb 5 01:13:38 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <001901c3eaec$a3e85680$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> On 4 Feb 2004 at 2:00, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > Considering RKO General got a license yanked (and forfieted millions) for > a much smaller offense. What could possibly be a smaller offense than giving people a glimpse of a bare breast? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Feb 5 01:13:27 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Feb 5 01:13:38 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <402198B7.22651.6085A7@localhost> On 4 Feb 2004 at 21:11, Sid Schweiger wrote: > (c) Commissioners shall be appointed for terms of five years and until > their successors are appointed and have been confirmed and taken the oath > of office, except that they shall not continue to serve beyond the > expiration of the next session of Congress subsequent to the expiration of > said fixed term of office; except that any person chosen to fill a vacancy > shall be appointed only for the unexpired term of the Commissioner whom he > succeeds. It doesn't say anything about removal. I believe that the Supreme Court, decades ago, ruled that the President could remove members of an independent agency commission for cause only. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Feb 5 01:13:27 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Feb 5 01:13:40 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <1075880421.2BFA230F@s29.dngr.org> References: <001901c3eaec$a3e85680$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <402198B7.23009.608540@localhost> On 4 Feb 2004 at 7:40, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Michael Powell serves at "the pleasure of the President" Actually, I'm not sure he does. I believe the President can remove FCC commissioners "for cause" only. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Feb 5 01:32:03 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Feb 5 01:32:00 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused References: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> Message-ID: <011501c3ebb1$c95c1620$1404fea9@compaq5726> > What could possibly be a smaller offense than giving people a glimpse of a bare breast? >> Even without a felony conviction, a corporate entity can lose its license because of character questions. In a prolonged case, the FCC decided not to renew the licenses of 14 of the TV and radio stations owned by RKO General, a subsidiary of General Tire (now GenCorp). "The FCC decision was not based on the quality of broadcast service...but on the question of RKO's corporate integrity," Fortune noted (4/21/80). "General Tire was maintaining slush funds for such uses as improper overseas payments and questionable campaign contributions," Time later reported (8/24/87), and "allegedly filed false and misleading financial statements." Of particular concern was RKO's lack of candor in reporting these wrongdoings to the FCC. RKO was stripped of one station (Boston's WNAC-TV) without compensation, and was forced to sell other stations for less than full market value, resulting in major financial losses. << None of which had anything to do with how they operated their broadcast stations. The stations themselves did no wrong. As far as the actions of the parent company...I don't think they were ever found guilty of those things or found to have actually broken any laws. Just a "question" of their "integrity" and "candor". What do you suppose they lost in dollars, when they lost the license? If my memory serves me correctly, didn't channel 5 get sold shortly after that for 400 Mill? (Channel 5, of course was a much better property.) From kvahey@tmail.com Thu Feb 5 01:35:06 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu Feb 5 01:35:58 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> References: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> Message-ID: <1075962949.2B425D89@r31.dngr.org> Ummmm How about RKO Generals track record for local news on WNAC7? Here is a station that between 1948/1957 was the only VHF commercial outlet and they are ignored in Boston TV history. Ch 4 developed Arch McDonald, Jack Chase, Victor Best, Don Kent..etc Ch 7 had at best Louise Morgan. Ch 5 arrived in 1957 and woke up local news and Ch 4 reacted, Ch 7 yawned Seriously can any of the old timers on this list say anything good about WNAC TV? On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 1:16am, A. Joseph Ross wrote: From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Feb 5 02:04:47 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Feb 5 02:07:44 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused References: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> <1075962949.2B425D89@r31.dngr.org> Message-ID: <012601c3ebb6$cc88d2c0$1404fea9@compaq5726> > Ch 7 had at best Louise Morgan. > > Seriously can any of the old timers on this list say anything good > about WNAC TV? Let's not forget Chuck Scarborough, Ted O'Brien, Eddie Andelman, John Henning, Mish Michaels, Ron Sanders, Amalia Barreda, Mary Richardson, Bill O'Reilley...and HARVEY LEONARD! All got introduced to Boston TV viewers by Channel 7! From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Feb 5 02:10:20 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Feb 5 02:10:11 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused References: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> <1075962949.2B425D89@r31.dngr.org> Message-ID: <012701c3ebb7$24243100$1404fea9@compaq5726> > Ch 7 had at best Louise Morgan. > > Seriously can any of the old timers on this list say anything good > about WNAC TV? Let's not forget Chuck Scarborough, Ted O'Brien, Eddie Andelman, John Henning, Mish Michaels, Ron Sanders, Amalia Barreda, Mary Richardson, Bill O'Reilley, Gene Lavanchy, John Dennis, RD Sahl...and HARVEY LEONARD! All got introduced to Boston TV viewers by Channel 7! From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Feb 5 05:56:33 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu Feb 5 05:57:36 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 References: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> <1075962949.2B425D89@r31.dngr.org> <012701c3ebb7$24243100$1404fea9@compaq5726> Message-ID: <002501c3ebd6$d76735e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> The question was not about Channel 7 but about the old WNAC-TV (Channel 7). Which of the people you cited began their Boston TV careers on Channel 7 WHEN IT WAS STILL WNAC-TV and was still owned by General TeleRadio? I don't think all of them. Maybe not even most of them. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Pappalardo To: Kevin Vahey Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 2:10 AM Subject: Re: Uncle Charlie's not amused > > > Ch 7 had at best Louise Morgan. > > > > Seriously can any of the old timers on this list say anything good > > about WNAC TV? > > Let's not forget Chuck Scarborough, Ted O'Brien, Eddie Andelman, John > Henning, Mish Michaels, Ron Sanders, Amalia Barreda, Mary Richardson, Bill > O'Reilley, Gene Lavanchy, John Dennis, RD Sahl...and HARVEY LEONARD! > > All got introduced to Boston TV viewers by Channel 7! > From dbradio@yahoo.com Thu Feb 5 07:58:12 2004 From: dbradio@yahoo.com (Dan Bourret) Date: Thu Feb 5 07:58:25 2004 Subject: anybody got a reel-to-reel? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040201153930.02600010@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <20040205125812.64984.qmail@web60602.mail.yahoo.com> HI Donna, I do have a reel-to-reel machine. It works, it is just not hooked up to anything at the moment. I would be more than happy to loan it to you if you have the means to supply power to it. Also, I believe that it has a head phone jack on it, so you may not even need an amplifier. Let me know if this works for you. Thanks, Dan Bourret Lowell, MA WCAP Alum --- Donna Halper wrote: > I just found some old reel to reel tapes from my > college days and need a > working reel to reel recorder to listen to them and > see what's on > them. Does anybody who lives in Massachusetts have > a machine and some time > when I could sit and listen? > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Feb 5 08:20:12 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Feb 5 08:18:46 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <011501c3ebb1$c95c1620$1404fea9@compaq5726> References: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040205081504.00a92a10@pop3.bit-net.com> Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >"The FCC decision was not based >on the quality of broadcast service...but on the question of RKO's corporate >integrity," Fortune noted (4/21/80). "General Tire was maintaining slush >funds for such uses as improper overseas payments and questionable campaign >contributions," Time later reported (8/24/87), and "allegedly filed false >and misleading financial statements." Of particular concern was RKO's lack >of candor in reporting these wrongdoings to the FCC. As to whether this constitutes grounds for forfeiting all broadcast licenses is debatable, but to me sounds worse than allowing a slightly risqu? half-time show. Some of these FCC regulations are woefully out of date. Why is broadcast television (or radio) treated differently than similar cable or satellite services? Maybe once upon a time when cable was little more than a community antenna system this may have made sense, but those days are decades behind us. >RKO was stripped of one station (Boston's WNAC-TV) without compensation, and >was forced to sell other stations for less than full market value, resulting >in major financial losses.< > >None of which had anything to do with how they operated their broadcast >stations. The stations themselves did no wrong. > >As far as the actions of the parent company...I don't think they were ever >found guilty of those things or found to have actually broken any laws. >Just a "question" of their "integrity" and "candor". Sounds like a witch hunt to me. From sid@wrko.com Thu Feb 5 08:39:33 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu Feb 5 09:48:08 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused Message-ID: >>"General Tire was maintaining slush funds for such uses as improper overseas payments and questionable campaign contributions," Time later reported (8/24/87), and "allegedly filed false and misleading financial statements." Of particular concern was RKO's lack of candor in reporting these wrongdoings to the FCC.<< The lack-of-candor issue aside (and that will get virtually any broadcast license yanked rather quickly), the government completely ignored the fact that such "improper payments" are a necessary cost of doing business in numerous countries. To put it bluntly, you don't move things along without greasing the right palms. Chances are General Tire had an accountant who didn't know how to hide such things from the government, and got caught, but for the governemnt to apply American standards to other countries is just plain dumb. Sid Schweiger MIS Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Feb 5 14:14:06 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Feb 5 14:15:26 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused References: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> <5.1.0.14.0.20040205081504.00a92a10@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <023101c3ec1c$78a31920$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >"The FCC decision was not based >on the quality of broadcast service...but on the question of RKO's corporate >integrity," Fortune noted (4/21/80). "General Tire was maintaining slush >funds for such uses as improper overseas payments and questionable campaign >contributions," Time later reported (8/24/87), and "allegedly filed false >and misleading financial statements." Of particular concern was RKO's lack >of candor in reporting these wrongdoings to the FCC. << As to whether this constitutes grounds for forfeiting all broadcast licenses is debatable, but to me sounds worse than allowing a slightly risqu? half-time show. << The RKO stuff was not illegal, as far as anyone can tell. The CBS stuff was....by most 'community standards'. From kvahey@tmail.com Thu Feb 5 14:21:36 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu Feb 5 14:21:54 2004 Subject: Rangers/Knicks leave WFAN Message-ID: <1076008898.36910AF7@r5.dngr.org> The new radio home for the NY Knicks and Rangers will be ESPN 1050 as WFAN walked away from both teams. WABC or Radio Disney will be the backup in case of conflicts. From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Feb 5 14:30:54 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Feb 5 14:30:59 2004 Subject: Rangers/Knicks leave WFAN In-Reply-To: <1076008898.36910AF7@r5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <003b01c3ec1e$94c29520$59464742@Sean> Kevin writes: << The new radio home for the NY Knicks and Rangers will be ESPN 1050 as WFAN walked away from both teams. WABC or Radio Disney will be the backup in case of conflicts. >> What does this do to the Devils (WABC, time-buy) and Islanders (1050)? I would imagine WFAN would make a bid on the Devils and Nets, given their recent successes. It also makes sense since 1050's studios are upstairs in the Garden. From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Feb 5 14:12:13 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Feb 5 14:32:40 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 References: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> <1075962949.2B425D89@r31.dngr.org><012701c3ebb7$24243100$1404fea9@compaq5726> <002501c3ebd6$d76735e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <023001c3ec1c$785ff5a0$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> > The question was not about Channel 7 but about the old WNAC-TV (Channel 7). > Which of the people you cited began their Boston TV careers on Channel 7 > WHEN IT WAS STILL WNAC-TV and was still owned by General TeleRadio? I don't > think all of them. Maybe not even most of them. I think the only post-WNAC personalities there were: Mish Michaels, Lavancy, Bill O'Reilley, RD Sahl...and possibly Amalia Barreda. The others were indeed all part of WNAC. > > Let's not forget Chuck Scarborough, Ted O'Brien, Eddie Andelman, John > > Henning, Mish Michaels, Ron Sanders, Amalia Barreda, Mary Richardson, Bill > > O'Reilley, Gene Lavanchy, John Dennis, RD Sahl...and HARVEY LEONARD! > > > > All got introduced to Boston TV viewers by Channel 7! > > > From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Feb 5 15:24:18 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Feb 5 15:24:43 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <023101c3ec1c$78a31920$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> References: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> <5.1.0.14.0.20040205081504.00a92a10@pop3.bit-net.com> <023101c3ec1c$78a31920$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040205152237.0268e460@mail.mac.com> At 02:14 PM 2/5/2004, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >The RKO stuff was not illegal, as far as anyone can tell. > >The CBS stuff was....by most 'community standards. I would question that assumption, being that so many people in all communities are using their TIVO's to watch the clip over and over and over and over again. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From billo@shoreham.net Thu Feb 5 16:22:02 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Feb 5 16:22:19 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20040205152237.0268e460@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <006f01c3ec2e$194fb250$0300a8c0@boneill> Larry Weil writes: > I would question that assumption, being that so many people in all > communities are using their TIVO's to watch the clip over and > over and over > and over again. That breaks the demo down nicely to those with access to that technology and too much time on their hands. Porn outsells all pro sports combined - should that matter to those who want free air to be within some semblance of decency? Bill O'Neill From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Feb 5 17:20:09 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Feb 5 17:20:30 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused Message-ID: >DATE: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 16:22:02 >From: "Bill O'Neill" >To: "'Larry Weil'" , interest@bostonradio.org>,"'SteveOrdinetz'" >Larry Weil writes: >> I would question that assumption, being that so many people in all >> communities are using their TIVO's to watch the clip over and >> over and over >> and over again. > >That breaks the demo down nicely to those with access to that technology and too >much time on their hands. Porn outsells all pro sports combined - should that >matter to those who want free air to be within some semblance of decency? > >Bill O'Neill > > Speaking of porn, and who hasn't lately... that particular industry will the subject of PBS's "Frontline" in coming (sorry) days. It airs tonight (02/05) on WGBH-TV 2 at 9:00, and will air subsequently on the same outlet and its clone WGBX-TV 44. Channel 11 and satellites in NH has it tonight too. BTW, if WGBX-TV is essentially a clone of channel 2, why does it occasionally describe itself as "original and independent" Remember, on PBS, you can watch documentaries about porn without guilt! Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 From paul@03038.com Thu Feb 5 18:30:43 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu Feb 5 18:35:28 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 In-Reply-To: <002501c3ebd6$d76735e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <010601c3ec40$fc9e4a00$0e87fea9@q0002> Ken Wayne....the voice of WNAC-TV....and Major Mudd...that's about it for WNAC-7 days for me.... -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Dan Strassberg Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:57 AM To: Joseph Pappalardo; Kevin Vahey Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 The question was not about Channel 7 but about the old WNAC-TV (Channel 7). Which of the people you cited began their Boston TV careers on Channel 7 WHEN IT WAS STILL WNAC-TV and was still owned by General TeleRadio? I don't think all of them. Maybe not even most of them. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Pappalardo To: Kevin Vahey Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 2:10 AM Subject: Re: Uncle Charlie's not amused > > > Ch 7 had at best Louise Morgan. > > > > Seriously can any of the old timers on this list say anything good > > about WNAC TV? > > Let's not forget Chuck Scarborough, Ted O'Brien, Eddie Andelman, John > Henning, Mish Michaels, Ron Sanders, Amalia Barreda, Mary Richardson, Bill > O'Reilley, Gene Lavanchy, John Dennis, RD Sahl...and HARVEY LEONARD! > > All got introduced to Boston TV viewers by Channel 7! > From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Feb 5 19:04:22 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu Feb 5 19:04:26 2004 Subject: Non broadcast Question Message-ID: <20040206000422.92852.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> Two NH TV station did a piece yesterday on a Bow NH resident running his own private radar gun to record speeders and then call police. He called police over 100 times and the police are going to court to get him to stop. Doesn't this gentleman, and the police, need an FCC license to "transmit" radar signals? John East Derry ===== Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Feb 5 19:17:47 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu Feb 5 19:17:50 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 In-Reply-To: <023001c3ec1c$785ff5a0$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <20040206001747.296.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> --- Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > Let's not forget Chuck Scarborough, Ted O'Brien, Eddie Andelman, > John Henning, Mish Michaels, All got introduced to Boston TV viewers by > Channel 7! I recall seeing Mishelle Michaels first on WMUR-TV in Manchester NH in the earlier 1990's. I don't recall seeing her on Boston TV before that?? John ===== Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From kvahey@tmail.com Thu Feb 5 19:33:50 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu Feb 5 19:34:08 2004 Subject: WMUR turns 50 Message-ID: <1076027630.37B8094E@s5.dngr.org> WMUR turns 50 next month and they are looking for people that remember the good old days http://www.thewmurchannel.com/wmur/2765030/detail.html I haven't seen a picture of Willie May Joy in over 30 years, and nice to see a pic of Tom Bonnar and Ray Harris. But geeze you would think they would have a pic of Uncle Gus From kvahey@tmail.com Thu Feb 5 19:41:47 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu Feb 5 19:41:56 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 Message-ID: <1076028107.1C1B4E30@w5.dngr.org> Prior to joining CBS4 Michaels worked as the weekend meteorologist for WHDH-TV (NBC) in Boston for almost a decade. During that time she was twice named Boston?s Best Meteorologist by the Improper Bostonian magazine and nominated for a New England Emmy on three occasions (1996,1998 and 2000). Before joining WHDH, she worked as a meteorologist and environmental reporter for WMUR-TV 9 in Manchester, New Hampshire. http://wbz4.com/bios/local_bio_052120906/ On 02/06/04 at 00:17 John Bolduc wrote: > > --- Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > > > > Let's not forget Chuck Scarborough, Ted O'Brien, Eddie Andelman, > > John Henning, Mish Michaels, All got introduced to Boston TV > viewers by > > Channel 7! > > I recall seeing Mishelle Michaels first on WMUR-TV in Manchester NH in the > earlier 1990's. I don't recall seeing her on Boston TV before that?? > > John > > > > > > > > > > ===== > Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Feb 5 19:48:06 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Feb 5 19:48:12 2004 Subject: Non broadcast Question In-Reply-To: <20040206000422.92852.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040206000422.92852.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040205194640.00a61cc0@mail.mac.com> At 07:04 PM 2/5/2004, John Bolduc wrote: >Two NH TV station did a piece yesterday on a Bow NH resident running his >own private radar gun to record speeders and then call police. He called >police over 100 times and the police are going to court to get him to >stop. > >Doesn't this gentleman, and the police, need an FCC license to "transmit" >radar signals? That depends. It might qualify as a Part 15 device if below a certain power level. And I'm sure the police have a license if one is needed. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Feb 5 19:54:42 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Feb 5 19:53:16 2004 Subject: WMUR turns 50 In-Reply-To: <1076027630.37B8094E@s5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040205195217.00abb2d0@pop3.bit-net.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: >I haven't seen a picture of Willie May Joy in over 30 years, and nice >to see a pic of Tom Bonnar and Ray Harris. > >But geeze you would think they would have a pic of Uncle Gus Had forgotten all about Clyde & Willie Mae Joy, but you're right...no Uncle Gus was a serious oversight...probably the biggest "celebrity" the station had. News reporters come and go, but 'most every boomer who grew up within range of Channel 9 knows who Uncle Gus is. From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Feb 5 20:00:52 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Feb 5 19:54:52 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 Message-ID: <200402052000.AA518259140@mail.ttlc.net> "Paul Hopfgarten" replied: >Ken Wayne....the voice of WNAC-TV....and Major Mudd...that's about it >for WNAC-7 days for me.... Dave "Billy The Milkman" Rodman? From sid@wrko.com Thu Feb 5 20:09:42 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu Feb 5 20:10:07 2004 Subject: Non broadcast Question Message-ID: >>Doesn't this gentleman, and the police, need an FCC license to "transmit" radar signals?<< They certainly do. It's called a "radiopositioning" license, and it specifies how many units are to be used by the agency holding the license. Police radar is definitely NOT a Part 15 device. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From kvahey@tmail.com Thu Feb 5 21:46:50 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu Feb 5 21:47:02 2004 Subject: WMUR turns 50 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040205195217.00abb2d0@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040205195217.00abb2d0@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <1076035613.2D3DD3BE@r31.dngr.org> Clyde and Willie Mae and all the country folk. That show was our big production in 1968 Can't forget Ring A Ding the clown either On further review the person with Ray Harris I think maybe Peter Fasciano who later went on to co-found Avid. ( I forget Peter had an afro ) That pic would be 1972-3 or so when Ch 9 FINALLY went to live color. 1819 Elm Street was perhaps the strangest broadcast facility in history for TV anyways. It was actually Governor Murphy's house. I know that WGIR was once WMUR AM but I think the AM was sold to pay for the TV. On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 8:01pm, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Kevin Vahey wrote: >> I haven't seen a picture of Willie May Joy in over 30 years, and nice >> to see a pic of Tom Bonnar and Ray Harris. >> >> But geeze you would think they would have a pic of Uncle Gus > > Had forgotten all about Clyde & Willie Mae Joy, but you're right...no > Uncle Gus was a serious oversight...probably the biggest "celebrity" > the station had. News reporters come and go, but 'most every boomer > who grew up within range of Channel 9 knows who Uncle Gus is. From lspin@comcast.net Thu Feb 5 22:23:14 2004 From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou) Date: Thu Feb 5 22:23:48 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 In-Reply-To: <200402052000.AA518259140@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <000901c3ec60$91b1ccb0$6401a8c0@DAS8200> Ummm.... Ted O'Brien Sportscaster Bob "Candlepins for Cash" Gamere? Sportscaster Barbara Borin (first female TV sports anchor in Boston?) Ray Walker (Meterorologist who used an umbrella as a pointer)?? Meteorologist/Spaceshot Stuart Soroka ??? Sorry - just flushing out the brain. -Lou "Paul Hopfgarten" replied: >Ken Wayne....the voice of WNAC-TV....and Major Mudd...that's about it >for WNAC-7 days for me.... Dave "Billy The Milkman" Rodman? From DonKelley@aol.com Thu Feb 5 22:33:32 2004 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Thu Feb 5 22:33:51 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 Message-ID: <46D1EF7C.00A3C9B6.0238A7FB@aol.com> Paula Zahn came from Channel 7....as did CNN's Miles O'Brien...and Jay "found in a Denver hotel room" Scott...and sportscaster Zip Rzeppa. From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Feb 6 00:03:23 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Feb 5 23:56:56 2004 Subject: XM drops commercials on ll music streams Message-ID: <200402060003.AA520618592@mail.ttlc.net> XM has dropped commercials on all its music streams. Previously only half the streams were commercial-free. Details at: http://radio.about.com/cs/latestradionews/a/bl020204a.htm From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Feb 6 00:39:16 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Feb 6 00:39:29 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <1075962949.2B425D89@r31.dngr.org> References: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> Message-ID: <4022E234.14574.4A58DB@localhost> On 5 Feb 2004 at 6:35, Kevin Vahey wrote: > How about RKO Generals track record for local news on WNAC7? Here is a > station that between 1948/1957 was the only VHF commercial outlet and they > are ignored in Boston TV history. The only VHF commercial outlet? Channel 4 wasn't a VHF commercial outlet? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Feb 6 00:39:17 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Feb 6 00:39:38 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <023101c3ec1c$78a31920$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <4022E235.23905.4A5BC8@localhost> On 5 Feb 2004 at 14:14, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > The RKO stuff was not illegal, as far as anyone can tell. > > The CBS stuff was....by most 'community standards'. The sight of a bare breast is not illegal by most "community standards." They show bare asses on NYPD Blue, and NBC aired "Shindler's List" unedited, with full frontal nudity, male and female. And they were even planning to show a bare breast on ER this week, until the hoopla over Janet Jackson caused them to chicken out. They show much more in movies and on cable channels. I didn't see the show, but it sounds to me as though the lyrics of the songs they were singing and the tenor of many of the commercials -- crotch-biting dogs and farting horses -- was worse. And, of course, there are plenty of bare breasts on display at the Museum of Fine Arts. CBS had nothing to do with the baring of Jackson's breast. I doubt they'll get more than a warning. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Feb 6 01:10:30 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri Feb 6 01:10:35 2004 Subject: WMUR turns 50 Message-ID: <18849039.1076047830218.JavaMail.root@beaker.psp.pas.earthlink.net> > From: SteveOrdinetz > To: bri@bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: WMUR turns 50 > > Had forgotten all about Clyde & Willie Mae Joy, but you're right...no Uncle > Gus was a serious oversight...probably the biggest "celebrity" the station > had. News reporters come and go, but 'most every boomer who grew up > within range of Channel 9 knows who Uncle Gus is. Even not necessarily in range. I sure remember positioning the "rabbit ears" for the least snowy picture I could manage in Cambridge for Uncle Gus, and more of the excellent original early Max Fleischer "Popeye" cartoons than any Boston TV station aired. Eli Polonsky From kvahey@tmail.com Fri Feb 6 01:22:35 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri Feb 6 01:23:11 2004 Subject: WMUR turns 50 In-Reply-To: <18849039.1076047830218.JavaMail.root@beaker.psp.pas.earthlink.net> References: <18849039.1076047830218.JavaMail.root@beaker.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1076048565.2081CEAD@r5.dngr.org> I could remind them of an ugly newcast at 11 back in 1968 The newsman back then devised the perfect way to have an affair, he would tape the Friday night 11 PM news at 7 One night the trusty AMPEX 1000 failed and the news was shown at 11 with audio and his picture on a color slide. Oh and in the meantime Russia had invaded the Czechs. Another night ABC in NY called asking if we had footage on a plane crash in W Lebanon, NH. I replied "what plane crash?" How United Broadcasting ever kept that license is one of the great mysteries of NE broadcasting. On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 1:13am, Eli Polonsky wrote: >> From: SteveOrdinetz >> To: bri@bostonradio.org >> Subject: Re: WMUR turns 50 >> >> Had forgotten all about Clyde & Willie Mae Joy, but you're right...no >> Uncle >> Gus was a serious oversight...probably the biggest "celebrity" the >> station >> had. News reporters come and go, but 'most every boomer who grew up >> within range of Channel 9 knows who Uncle Gus is. > > Even not necessarily in range. I sure remember positioning the "rabbit > ears" > for the least snowy picture I could manage in Cambridge for Uncle Gus, > and > more of the excellent original early Max Fleischer "Popeye" cartoons > than > any Boston TV station aired. > > Eli Polonsky From kvahey@tmail.com Fri Feb 6 01:29:38 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri Feb 6 01:30:09 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <4022E234.14574.4A58DB@localhost> References: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> <4022E234.14574.4A58DB@localhost> Message-ID: <1076048982.1713614A@s29.dngr.org> Typo on my part Still for 9 years they and Ch 4 were the only game in town. NOBODY remembers 7 news in those years. They DID try starting around 1970, in fact with a format called New England Tonight with a blaring band intro. Didn't catch in Boston, and news director sold Ch 6 in Philly the idea. Action News was born. They also tried bigtime in 1972 when they became CBS, with Chuck Scarboro and Lee Nelson....again didn't catch. 4 and 5 owned local. Chuck went to WNBC and Lee went back to Maine. On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 12:39am, A. Joseph Ross wrote: From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Fri Feb 6 01:37:54 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Fri Feb 6 01:38:50 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused References: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> <4022E234.14574.4A58DB@localhost> <1076048982.1713614A@s29.dngr.org> Message-ID: <00ce01c3ec7b$ea5b7260$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> From: "Kevin Vahey" > Still for 9 years they and Ch 4 were the only game in town. NOBODY > remembers 7 news in those years. I remember it very well. So did everyone in my family. > They also tried bigtime in 1972 when they became CBS, with Chuck > Scarboro and Lee Nelson....again didn't catch. Chuck Scarborough brought Channel 7's news ratings to the highest they had ever been at the point he left. From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Fri Feb 6 01:40:58 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Fri Feb 6 01:40:59 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 Message-ID: <00db01c3ec7c$373ab500$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> > The question was not about Channel 7 but about the old WNAC-TV (Channel 7). > Which of the people you cited began their Boston TV careers on Channel 7 > WHEN IT WAS STILL WNAC-TV and was still owned by General TeleRadio? I don't > think all of them. Maybe not even most of them. I think the only post-WNAC personalities there were: Mish Michaels, Lavanchy, Bill O'Reilley, RD Sahl...and possibly Amalia Barreda. ALL the others I mentioned, were indeed all part of WNAC. > > Let's not forget Chuck Scarborough, Ted O'Brien, Eddie Andelman, John > > Henning, Mish Michaels, Ron Sanders, Amalia Barreda, Mary Richardson, Bill > > O'Reilley, Gene Lavanchy, John Dennis, RD Sahl...and HARVEY LEONARD! > > > > All got introduced to Boston TV viewers by Channel 7! Also, as Don mentioned: Miles O'Brien &Paula Zahn JP From kvahey@tmail.com Fri Feb 6 02:13:30 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri Feb 6 02:13:42 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <00ce01c3ec7b$ea5b7260$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> References: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> <4022E234.14574.4A58DB@localhost> <1076048982.1713614A@s29.dngr.org> <00ce01c3ec7b$ea5b7260$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <1076051614.23BDEA2E@s5.dngr.org> On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 1:38am, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > From: "Kevin Vahey" > > >> Still for 9 years they and Ch 4 were the only game in town. NOBODY >> remembers 7 news in those years. > > I remember it very well. So did everyone in my family. > I am sorry....us gray haired boomers remember Victor Best and Arch McDonald on 4, and when 5 came online John Day. Who was the most remembered person on 7 in those years? (1948-1957) All the names that have been mentioned came from the mid 60's on. In their early years Louise Morgan is the only name that sticks. From rpalino@mailandnews.com Fri Feb 6 03:00:42 2004 From: rpalino@mailandnews.com (R Palino) Date: Fri Feb 6 03:00:50 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused References: <402198B7.7250.60847B@localhost> <4022E234.14574.4A58DB@localhost><1076048982.1713614A@s29.dngr.org><00ce01c3ec7b$ea5b7260$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> <1076051614.23BDEA2E@s5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <001601c3ec87$530e6be0$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Didn't Jane Day do the "Jane Day Nightly Forecast" on Ch 7 back in those days? From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Feb 6 08:17:15 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Feb 6 08:15:46 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 In-Reply-To: <46D1EF7C.00A3C9B6.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040206081332.009f7d80@pop3.bit-net.com> DonKelley@aol.com wrote: >Paula Zahn came from Channel 7....as did CNN's Miles O'Brien...and Jay >"found in a Denver hotel room" Scott...and sportscaster Zip Rzeppa. While Zip may have worked at Ch. 7 (though I don't think he was there when RKO General owned it), he was well-established in the midwest before he came to Boston. Remember him being in Cincinnati in the late 70s/early 80s. Not a sports fan, or much of a watcher of tv news, but I do recall hearing a parody of Robert Palmer's "Bad Case Of Loving You" that referenced Zip. From paul@03038.com Fri Feb 6 08:51:01 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri Feb 6 08:49:27 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 In-Reply-To: <000901c3ec60$91b1ccb0$6401a8c0@DAS8200> Message-ID: <009d01c3ecb8$49efdd60$0e87fea9@q0002> Ray Walker I don't recall, but I do recall Ted O'B, Gamere (how could I have forgotten Bob Gamere, the king of 5:30PM) Was Zip Rezeppa (sp?) in the 'NAC days or was he an 'NEV guy? Rhahema Ellis (sp?)....Also can't recall if she was 'NAC or 'NEV... Did Gary Armstrong make it back to the 'NAC days? -Paul Hopfgarten -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Lou Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 10:23 PM To: paul@03038.com Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: RE: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 Ummm.... Ted O'Brien Sportscaster Bob "Candlepins for Cash" Gamere? Sportscaster Barbara Borin (first female TV sports anchor in Boston?) Ray Walker (Meterorologist who used an umbrella as a pointer)?? Meteorologist/Spaceshot Stuart Soroka ??? Sorry - just flushing out the brain. -Lou "Paul Hopfgarten" replied: >Ken Wayne....the voice of WNAC-TV....and Major Mudd...that's about it >for WNAC-7 days for me.... Dave "Billy The Milkman" Rodman? From paul@03038.com Fri Feb 6 09:03:09 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri Feb 6 09:01:36 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 In-Reply-To: <009d01c3ecb8$49efdd60$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <00a301c3ecb9$fe2442c0$0e87fea9@q0002> Oh..and is Bill O'Rielly the MOST FAMOUS ex Ch 7 personality (WNEV days, wasn't he on "Look" Magazine?) -Paul Hopfgarten -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Paul Hopfgarten Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:51 AM To: 'Lou' Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: RE: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 Ray Walker I don't recall, but I do recall Ted O'B, Gamere (how could I have forgotten Bob Gamere, the king of 5:30PM) Was Zip Rezeppa (sp?) in the 'NAC days or was he an 'NEV guy? Rhahema Ellis (sp?)....Also can't recall if she was 'NAC or 'NEV... Did Gary Armstrong make it back to the 'NAC days? -Paul Hopfgarten -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Lou Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 10:23 PM To: paul@03038.com Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: RE: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 Ummm.... Ted O'Brien Sportscaster Bob "Candlepins for Cash" Gamere? Sportscaster Barbara Borin (first female TV sports anchor in Boston?) Ray Walker (Meterorologist who used an umbrella as a pointer)?? Meteorologist/Spaceshot Stuart Soroka ??? Sorry - just flushing out the brain. -Lou "Paul Hopfgarten" replied: >Ken Wayne....the voice of WNAC-TV....and Major Mudd...that's about it >for WNAC-7 days for me.... Dave "Billy The Milkman" Rodman? From billo@shoreham.net Fri Feb 6 10:42:05 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Feb 6 10:42:11 2004 Subject: The tale of the tape Message-ID: <00ac01c3ecc7$c6181560$0300a8c0@boneill> On the heels of the sad news that 11 y.o. Carlie Brucia, abducted last Sunday, had been found dead last night, it begs the questions as to why the networks continue to replay the videotape of her abduction. Public opinion was surely ignited by the tape which triggered strong interest in her safe discovery. Are the networks solely about ratings? How much more beneficial would it be that the networks pull together resources to produce a program aimed at children as a lesson on safety? Put the tape into some sort of context that could actually contribute to saving a life. Bill O'Neill Shoreham, Vt. From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Fri Feb 6 12:06:15 2004 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Fri Feb 6 12:06:26 2004 Subject: Some other WNAC-TV--Channel 7 personalities and such....... In-Reply-To: <00a301c3ecb9$fe2442c0$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <20040206170615.42228.qmail@web40509.mail.yahoo.com> Let's see about some other WNAC-TV personalities.... hmmmm, there was Ken Thomas (later of WJBK-TV/Channel 2 in Detroit) who co-anchored "New England Tonight" with Ken Wayne in the early 1970's. I do recall Ray Walker who did Boston 7's weather ("he makes weather, make sense!") in the evenings and anchored the noontime newscast. We all remember Chuck Scarborough (now of WNBC-TV/Channel 4 in New York). Bill Brooks did the news on Channel 7 in the late 1960's and of course before that, Palmer Payne toiled for Channel 7 in the mid 1960's (who went to bigger and better things at WCBS/880 for many years before recently retiring to Maine). Dick Flavin moved on to WBZ. Paul Reese (remember him?) did the late, late news summary on Sundays just before sign-off in the mid 1970's. Steve Sheppard was a reporter who moved on to WABC-TV/Channel 7 in New York. There are many, many more...... In spite of its' dubious history, Channel 7 (WNAC-TV) DID make some good television during its' 34 years of existance and had some fine people working there over the years. The only problem was that its' corporate owner (RKO General) did some things that they were NOT supposed to do. The results were far reaching. And who could not forget "The Blue Hill Volcano" on April 1, 1980. Note the date, April 1. That was the beginning of the end of WNAC-TV. I am sure, some people at New England Television Corporation (the contenders for the Channel 7 license) were licking their chops on that one! A few months later, the FCC said that WNAC-TV was not going to get their license renewed and that NETC was granted a Construction Permit to build and operate a new station on Channel 7. Calmer heads prevailed and NETC was given the opportunity to buy the assets of WNAC-TV at fire sale prices. RKO General was to give all of the proceeds to charity (namely to WGBH, et.al.). Channel 7 never left the air. Though it is a different license, in essence, it is the same station that signed on in 1948. Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts > Oh..and is Bill O'Rielly the MOST FAMOUS ex Ch 7 > personality (WNEV days, > wasn't he on "Look" Magazine?) > > -Paul Hopfgarten > > > Ray Walker I don't recall, but I do recall Ted O'B, > Gamere (how could I have > forgotten Bob Gamere, the king of 5:30PM) > Was Zip Rezeppa (sp?) in the 'NAC days or was he an > 'NEV guy? > > Rhahema Ellis (sp?)....Also can't recall if she was > 'NAC or 'NEV... > > Did Gary Armstrong make it back to the 'NAC days? > > -Paul Hopfgarten > > > Ummm.... > Ted O'Brien > Sportscaster Bob "Candlepins for Cash" Gamere? > Sportscaster Barbara Borin (first female TV sports > anchor in Boston?) > Ray Walker (Meterorologist who used an umbrella as a > pointer)?? > Meteorologist/Spaceshot Stuart Soroka ??? > > Sorry - just flushing out the brain. > > -Lou > > "Paul Hopfgarten" replied: > >Ken Wayne....the voice of WNAC-TV....and Major > Mudd...that's about it > >for WNAC-7 days for me.... > > Dave "Billy The Milkman" Rodman? > > > ===== Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Feb 6 12:34:17 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Feb 6 12:34:57 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 In-Reply-To: <00a301c3ecb9$fe2442c0$0e87fea9@q0002> References: <009d01c3ecb8$49efdd60$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040206123336.024a7b80@pop.registeredsite.com> Has anyone mentioned the late great "Major Mudd"? Wasn't he on the old channel 7? I know he didn't start his career in Boston, but he was certainly here for a long while... From news@southstation.org Fri Feb 6 13:03:09 2004 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Fri Feb 6 13:03:19 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040206123336.024a7b80@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: Major Mudd was one of my favorites in the early sixties. He was the source of much of my "Stooge" watching. I remember a personal appearance, probably in 1962, where he came to the Stoneham Theatre and tossed out Tootsie Rolls to the kids before the "Three Stooges" movie. I blogged about some of the Boston personalities last year and found a great response. There unfortunately are no web resources dedicated to the memory of Major Mudd. I also wrote about Rex Trailer and Pablo, Captain Bob, Bob Emery, Willy Whistle, the appearance of Santa Claus on WMUR (with snowy reception from Stoneham, I must have thought Channel 9 was close to the North Pole.) -Larry www.southstation.org -----Original Message----- From: Donna Halper Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:34 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: RE: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 Has anyone mentioned the late great "Major Mudd"? Wasn't he on the old channel 7? I know he didn't start his career in Boston, but he was certainly here for a long while... From billo@shoreham.net Fri Feb 6 13:13:31 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Feb 6 13:13:39 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040206123336.024a7b80@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <000101c3ecdc$edf3e450$0300a8c0@boneill> Donna writes: > Has anyone mentioned the late great "Major Mudd"? Wasn't he > on the old > channel 7? I know he didn't start his career in Boston, but he was > certainly here for a long while... "I'll be blasting you!" I also recall the sliding door to the spaceship was likely a quarter inch piece of plywood that never opened smoothly. The "swooshing" sound would repeat until the door finally opened. But it all "worked" nonetheless. Bill O'Neill Bill O'Neill From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Fri Feb 6 13:15:59 2004 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Fri Feb 6 13:16:07 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040206123336.024a7b80@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <20040206181559.20190.qmail@web40514.mail.yahoo.com> Ah, yes..."The Major"..... He brought up a lot of kids in the 1960's and 70's on Channel 7. Lets see now.... "Take an I and B and B and a Y means I'll be blasting you!!! With Major Mudd and The Nervous One and lots of fun for you........" or something of that nature! Does anyone have the lyrics to the "IBBY" song? Major Mudd was one of a kind. After the Channel 7 network change to CBS in 1972, his show was cut back dramatically. Later on in 1973, it became a once a week Saturday morning show called "Skittle Alley" with Major in his street clothes with a live audience (on tape of course). He no longer wore his "space costume". It was about the time his health deteriorated after his long battle from diabetes which robbed him of his sight and eventually his life in the early 1980's. Yes, he was a major part of WNAC-TV for so many years. Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts --- Donna Halper wrote: > Has anyone mentioned the late great "Major Mudd"? > Wasn't he on the old > channel 7? I know he didn't start his career in > Boston, but he was > certainly here for a long while... > > ===== Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Feb 6 13:30:48 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Feb 6 13:31:32 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040206132947.0252f6c8@pop.registeredsite.com> The Boston Globe in an older article from my collection said that "Major Mudd was Edward McDonnell, who died in 1979; he hosted [a] children's program on Boston's Ch. 7 from 1961 to 1975..." Was he really on the air here that long? From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Feb 6 13:36:18 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Feb 6 13:36:58 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040206133333.025ad2e8@pop.registeredsite.com> Another Globe article says that Major Mudd got his start in TV on the Ernie Kovaks Show. In a summary of his obit, it said that "...Edward McDonnell appeared for more than a decade as the bumbling, bungling spaceman on Boston's Channel 7 when it known as WNAC-TV. A graduate of Temple University, McDonnell came here from his native Philadelphia in 1961. He quickly gained a large audience among the area's younger set for his on-screen antics as well as the respect of local elders for his concern for children and for his fund-raising efforts on behalf of various community organizations. Beset in the 1970s by health problems (diabetes, kidney failure and blindness among them), McDonnell died in October 1979 at age 53..." From markwats@comcast.net Fri Feb 6 16:48:06 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Fri Feb 6 16:46:06 2004 Subject: Fire At WAQY Studios A Case Of Arson Message-ID: <007a01c3ecfa$e89a47b0$64f88018@markscomputer> The Springfield Republican reports that someone set a fire at the WAQY studios in East Longmeadow MA yesterday afternoon. A fire was alledgedly set against the outside of the building by a man that a station employee saw passing by a window. The employee then heard a noise and saw flames shoot by the window. Station employees extinguished the fire before the fire department's arrival, and the building sustained less than $25,000 damage. Police are looking for the suspect. Mark Watson From paul@03038.com Fri Feb 6 18:00:29 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri Feb 6 17:58:59 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040206123336.024a7b80@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <007c01c3ed05$0fecc360$0e87fea9@q0002> I had mentioned MM... I was in his "prime demographic" when he was on the air...and I watched MM with that really bad sliding door much more than the fare on 4 or 5... -Paul Hopfgarten (in the 'single digits' of age through most of the 60s) -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:34 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: RE: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 Has anyone mentioned the late great "Major Mudd"? Wasn't he on the old channel 7? I know he didn't start his career in Boston, but he was certainly here for a long while... From markwats@comcast.net Fri Feb 6 18:16:28 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Fri Feb 6 18:17:10 2004 Subject: WMUR turns 50 References: <1076027630.37B8094E@s5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <001f01c3ed07$3f9c2ea0$64f88018@markscomputer> Kevin Vahey wrote: > But geeze you would think they would have a pic of Uncle Gus. I recall seeing a couple of Uncle Gus pics on WMUR's website about a year or two back, prior to Hearst-Argyle's purchase. At one time they had a "History of WMUR" on their website, that's where the Uncle Gus pics were. Uncle Gus was probably the most famous personality from WMUR's "golden era" (pre-1981). So many in NH and Northeastern MA grew up watching Uncle Gus, hopefully WMUR's 50th anniversary tribute will pay him the right tribute. And let's not forget after Uncle Gus concluded his show at 5:30, he then appeared as the "weather reader" on "The News" at 6PM. I recall for several years, the weather was sponsored by Manchester Federal Savings Bank. IIRC, Gus Bernier read the wire copy of the New England forecast, then did the live spot for the bank, then read the rest of the wire copy, then the local forecast written on a chalk board, which I think was a erasable marker board in later years. Gus was also the booth announcer for a good part of the day at WMUR as well. Mark Watson From markwats@comcast.net Fri Feb 6 18:26:28 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Fri Feb 6 18:26:59 2004 Subject: WMUR turns 50 References: <18849039.1076047830218.JavaMail.root@beaker.psp.pas.earthlink.net> <1076048565.2081CEAD@r5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <002b01c3ed08$a5ae7120$64f88018@markscomputer> Kevin Vahey wrote: > I could remind them of an ugly newcast at 11 back in 1968 > > The newsman back then devised the perfect way to have an affair, he > would tape the Friday night 11 PM news at 7 > > One night the trusty AMPEX 1000 failed and the news was shown at 11 with > audio and his picture on a color slide. > > Oh and in the meantime Russia had invaded the Czechs. > > Another night ABC in NY called asking if we had footage on a plane crash > in W Lebanon, NH. I replied "what plane crash?" Someone once told me of another WMUR news gaffe from the golden era, don't know if this is true or urban legend. One late night or early morning there was a major fire somewhere in Northern NH, I believe it was Berlin, and on the WMUR 6PM news, they apparently had a second camera that night, for a "live report from Berlin". The reporter was standing outside 1819 Elm St (the former WMUR studios) doing the live shot. The film of the fire rolled, back to the reporter to wrap up the report. As he was finishing up, a Manchester Transit Authority bus drove by behind the reporter. How did that Manchester bus get that far off route? Mark Watson From kvahey@tmail.com Fri Feb 6 18:54:46 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri Feb 6 18:54:59 2004 Subject: WMUR turns 50 In-Reply-To: <002b01c3ed08$a5ae7120$64f88018@markscomputer> References: <18849039.1076047830218.JavaMail.root@beaker.psp.pas.earthlink.net> <1076048565.2081CEAD@r5.dngr.org> <002b01c3ed08$a5ae7120$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <1076111692.33BE348F@w5.dngr.org> The roof of a hockey rink collapsed in Berlin. The story is sadly true. Then there was the follow of the xmtr engineer on the mountain in Goffstown. In 1968 9 was the only local station with coverage of the shooting of RFK as the Boston stations went off after the speech. After the anthem was played, the STL would have the ABC signal fed into it and since xmtr guy was asleep 9 picked up by accident WABC going back to LA. A few weeks later, same xmtr guy heard anthem and shut xmtr off and went home. Only problem, it was a gold medal being given at the Mexico City Olympics. Oh and in November 1968, WMUR was the first station to declare Nixon the President, as GM Sam Phillips didn't want to pay OT to the crew. Station didn t carry Joey Bishop either as that would have meant staying on until 1. 9 ran People Are Funny reruns followed by The Rifleman and went off at 1230. (And we always supered BY FILM Since 9 didn't have a color VTR, if something was delayed, ABC would send a 16MM print with commercials spliced in as we did have color film. We had one perk, if we ran an ad for Pizza by Charles on Elm St, they would deliver a free pizza for crew. Same with dinner, run an ad for the Red Arrow or Puritan. United Broadcasting was quite the operation. All they ever wanted was to move the xmtr to Georgetown, MA and become a Boston indy, but Uncle Charley didn't buy it. On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 6:26pm, Mark Watson wrote: > Kevin Vahey wrote: > > >> I could remind them of an ugly newcast at 11 back in 1968 >> >> The newsman back then devised the perfect way to have an affair, he >> would tape the Friday night 11 PM news at 7 >> >> One night the trusty AMPEX 1000 failed and the news was shown at 11 >> with >> audio and his picture on a color slide. >> >> Oh and in the meantime Russia had invaded the Czechs. >> >> Another night ABC in NY called asking if we had footage on a plane >> crash >> in W Lebanon, NH. I replied "what plane crash?" > > Someone once told me of another WMUR news gaffe from the golden era, > don't know if this is true or urban legend. > > One late night or early morning there was a major fire somewhere in > Northern NH, I believe it was Berlin, and on the WMUR 6PM news, they > apparently had a second camera that night, for a "live report from > Berlin". > The reporter was standing outside 1819 Elm St (the former WMUR studios) > doing the live shot. The film of the fire rolled, back to the reporter > to > wrap up the report. As he was finishing up, a Manchester Transit > Authority > bus drove by behind the reporter. How did that Manchester bus get that > far > off route? > > Mark Watson From kvahey@tmail.com Fri Feb 6 19:05:34 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri Feb 6 19:05:59 2004 Subject: WMUR turns 50 In-Reply-To: <001f01c3ed07$3f9c2ea0$64f88018@markscomputer> References: <1076027630.37B8094E@s5.dngr.org> <001f01c3ed07$3f9c2ea0$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <1076112341.D9D1AEC@w5.dngr.org> Gus lost a big account in the late 60's when Atlantic Oil and their ad agency in Philadelphia found out we couldn't run their commercials in color ( or the weathercast either ) Then it became Gulf Weather Vane and when Gulf pulled out it became a bank. Gus and Bruce Graham were the main booth announcers and Tom Bonnar on weekends. Booth announcer was also the AD which meant he kept the log. Ray Harris would do booth in mid mornings until Gus arrived promptly at 10:57 AM I can say he DID like kids. Gus was also Santa Claus for many years. Also the station had a translator in downtown Manchester on Ch 13. Problem was with Goffstown W of Manchester, people who had atteneas pointed towards Needham/Newton couldn't get 9. On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 6:16pm, Mark Watson wrote: > Kevin Vahey wrote: > >> But geeze you would think they would have a pic of Uncle Gus. > > I recall seeing a couple of Uncle Gus pics on WMUR's website about > a > year or two back, prior to Hearst-Argyle's purchase. At one time they > had a > "History of WMUR" on their website, that's where the Uncle Gus pics > were. > > Uncle Gus was probably the most famous personality from WMUR's > "golden > era" (pre-1981). So many in NH and Northeastern MA grew up watching > Uncle > Gus, hopefully WMUR's 50th anniversary tribute will pay him the right > tribute. > > And let's not forget after Uncle Gus concluded his show at 5:30, he > then > appeared as the "weather reader" on "The News" at 6PM. I recall for > several > years, the weather was sponsored by Manchester Federal Savings Bank. > IIRC, > Gus Bernier read the wire copy of the New England forecast, then did > the > live spot for the bank, then read the rest of the wire copy, then the > local > forecast written on a chalk board, which I think was a erasable marker > board > in later years. Gus was also the booth announcer for a good part of the > day > at WMUR as well. > > Mark Watson From automailer@vnuinc.com Fri Feb 6 23:06:13 2004 From: automailer@vnuinc.com (automailer@vnuinc.com) Date: Fri Feb 6 23:34:58 2004 Subject: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes --> hello Message-ID: (A virus has been detected in a message you originated and has been logged.) Date: 02/07/2004 04:06:13 AM Subject: hello Virus: WORM_MYDOOM.A File: message.zip From: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org To: kevin@hollywoodreporter.com Action: Deleted; Scanned by ScanMail for Lotus Notes 2.6 with scanengine 6.810-1005 and patternfile lpt$vpn.757 From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sat Feb 7 00:46:39 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sat Feb 7 00:40:11 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused Message-ID: <200402070046.AA134414592@mail.ttlc.net> Someone wrote: >>>"General Tire was maintaining slush funds for such uses as improper overseas payments and questionable campaign contributions," Time later reported (8/24/87), and "allegedly filed false and misleading financial statements." Of particular concern was RKO's lack of candor in reporting these wrongdoings to the FCC.<< "Sid Schweiger" replied >The lack-of-candor issue aside (and that will get virtually any >broadcast license yanked rather quickly), the government completely >ignored the fact that such "improper payments" are a necessary cost of >doing business in numerous countries. To put it bluntly, you don't >move things along without greasing the right palms. Chances are >General Tire had an accountant who didn't know how to hide such things >from the government, and got caught, but for the governemnt to apply >American standards to other countries is just plain dumb. AT one company I worked for, there was a policy prohibiting employees from bribing government officials and influential people at vendors, but there was a specific exclusion referred to as "Facilitating Payments" made to appropriate foreighn officials to expedite shipping, approvals, etc. I believe it hinged on whether the payments were specifically prohibited in the country in question. If not prohibited, then it was agreed that they would be considered proper and legal. IIRC, General Tire also had certain broadcast license renewals contingent on the outcome of investigations into alleged "irregularities" in supplying tires to the State Police in one or more states. Anybody recall that issue? From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Feb 7 01:39:35 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Feb 7 01:39:32 2004 Subject: More MoveOn.org ads Message-ID: <402441D7.588.867E33@localhost> After insisting that it had a blanket policy of not accepting issue ads, CBS has accepted an ad promoting the Bush Medicare prescription drug law. In response, MoveOn.org has submitted an ad against the Bush Medicare prescription drug law. CBS has not yet said whether they will run the MoveOn.org ad. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Feb 7 01:39:37 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Feb 7 01:43:47 2004 Subject: WMUR turns 50 In-Reply-To: <18849039.1076047830218.JavaMail.root@beaker.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <402441D9.3832.868483@localhost> On 6 Feb 2004 at 1:10, Eli Polonsky wrote: > Even not necessarily in range. I sure remember positioning the "rabbit > ears" for the least snowy picture I could manage in Cambridge for Uncle > Gus, and more of the excellent original early Max Fleischer "Popeye" > cartoons than any Boston TV station aired. When I lived in Bedford, Channel 9 was one of the channels we regularly watched, especially before Channel 5 came on. In the early 70s, when I lived in a basement apartment near Coolidge Corner, I couldn't get Channel 9, but when I moved two doors down the street to a 3rd floor apartment, I got it quite well. In my present location in Washington Square, I can't get it at all. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Feb 7 01:39:37 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Feb 7 01:44:33 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <1076048982.1713614A@s29.dngr.org> References: <4022E234.14574.4A58DB@localhost> Message-ID: <402441D9.3688.8684E1@localhost> On 6 Feb 2004 at 6:29, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Still for 9 years they and Ch 4 were the only game in town. NOBODY > remembers 7 news in those years. I do remember a news program on Channel 7 called the "Knickerbocker News," sponsored by Knickerbocker Beer. I remember it because on Friday night, it came on right after Superman. Imagine my confusion when we moved to Albany, where there was an evening newspaper by that name. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Feb 7 01:39:37 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Feb 7 01:45:48 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <1076051614.23BDEA2E@s5.dngr.org> References: <00ce01c3ec7b$ea5b7260$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <402441D9.14624.868540@localhost> On 6 Feb 2004 at 2:13, Kevin Vahey wrote: > I am sorry....us gray haired boomers remember Victor Best and Arch > McDonald on 4, and when 5 came online John Day. Who was the most > remembered person on 7 in those years? (1948-1957) All the names that have > been mentioned came from the mid 60's on. I also remember, sometime around 1960 or so, a "weather girl" who was ambidextrous and would write on the weather chart first with one hand and then with the other. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Feb 7 01:39:37 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Feb 7 01:47:11 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040206123336.024a7b80@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <00a301c3ecb9$fe2442c0$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <402441D9.19320.8685F8@localhost> On 6 Feb 2004 at 12:34, Donna Halper wrote: > Has anyone mentioned the late great "Major Mudd"? Wasn't he on the old > channel 7? I know he didn't start his career in Boston, but he was > certainly here for a long while... I remember that when my mother would turn on the Channel 7 news early, Major Mudd would be just finishing up, and he would always get a pie in the face at the end. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lspin@comcast.net Sat Feb 7 09:39:04 2004 From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou) Date: Sat Feb 7 09:39:28 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 In-Reply-To: <402441D9.19320.8685F8@localhost> Message-ID: <000c01c3ed88$25987730$6401a8c0@DAS8200> The last time I saw Major Mudd was at a personal appearance at a (gulp!) CB Jamboree in Medford, summer 1973. He did take a pie in the face. (And I should probably take a pie for admitting attending such an event!) All this talk about the Major's at-the-time failing health reminded me of Ed Miller, another Channel 7 TV personality who succumbed to health issues during his tenure. He was the host of Channel 7's "Dialing for Dollars." -Lou ----------------- >I remember that when my mother would turn on the Channel 7 news early, >Major Mudd would >be just finishing up, and he would always get a pie in the face at the end. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From DonKelley@aol.com Sat Feb 7 10:50:14 2004 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Sat Feb 7 10:50:28 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused Message-ID: <09C7696D.76E33B53.0238A7FB@aol.com> In a message dated 2/7/2004 1:39:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, lawyer@attorneyross.com writes: > I also remember, sometime around 1960 or so, a "weather girl" who was ambidextrous and > would write on the weather chart first with one hand and > then with the other. Would this be the same person who stood behind a glass wall with the outline of a map? She'd write the numbers wind swooshed backward so they looked correct on camera. I'm thinking it was Jane Day, and she was on Channel 5. I'm also remembering the opening of the newscast. It was sponsored by Howard JOhnson's. They'd open with a shot of the roof and zoom in on the weathervane on top of Simple Simon. The N,S,E,W from the weathervane would turn around and become N,E,W,S as the V/O guy introduced the news. From gary@garysicecream.com Sat Feb 7 10:57:24 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Sat Feb 7 10:57:34 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 References: <000c01c3ed88$25987730$6401a8c0@DAS8200> Message-ID: <003801c3ed93$13f589e0$6500a8c0@office> And that would be.....Ed Miller.....whose other claim to fame was as the last person on the air on the old WNAC format (although the calls had already changed to WRKO).......he called the last show "6, 8, 0 in the nighttime" - he played the final song (At the End of the Rainbow by Earl Grant) just before Arnie Ginsburg began the new top-40 format. -gary francis -Gary's Ice Cream Chelmsford, MA www.garysicecream.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou" To: Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 9:39 AM Subject: RE: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 > The last time I saw Major Mudd was at a personal appearance at a (gulp!) > CB Jamboree in Medford, summer 1973. He did take a pie in the face. > (And I should probably take a pie for admitting attending such an > event!) > > All this talk about the Major's at-the-time failing health reminded me > of Ed Miller, another Channel 7 TV personality who succumbed to health > issues during his tenure. He was the host of Channel 7's "Dialing for > Dollars." > > -Lou > > > ----------------- > > >I remember that when my mother would turn on the Channel 7 news early, > >Major Mudd would > >be just finishing up, and he would always get a pie in the face at the > end. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 > http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > From billo@shoreham.net Sat Feb 7 12:21:26 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Feb 7 12:21:40 2004 Subject: WMUR turns 50 In-Reply-To: <001f01c3ed07$3f9c2ea0$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <000501c3ed9e$d187f5f0$0300a8c0@boneill> > And let's not forget after Uncle Gus concluded his show at > 5:30, he then > appeared as the "weather reader" on "The News" at 6PM. I > recall for several > years, > Mark Watson Ah, Uncle Gus. I owe my cartological prowess (okay, I get states) to Uncle Gus. Always felt bad for the kids who got a "boink" on the head with the cardboard low-tech map once they got one wrong. How refreshing - being told that you were WRONG! Today, it would be "Hey, let's rename that state to the one you said so that we can all build your esteem to a point where you're a radio programmer and.... " Got carried away there..... Bill O'Neill From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sat Feb 7 13:29:30 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sat Feb 7 13:29:34 2004 Subject: WMUR turns 50 In-Reply-To: <1076112341.D9D1AEC@w5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <20040207182930.83147.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> > > Also the station had a translator in downtown Manchester on Ch 13. > Problem was with Goffstown W of Manchester, people who had atteneas > pointed towards Needham/Newton couldn't get 9. > Didn't a translator on Channel 57 replace the channel 13 translator? John East Derry ===== Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From steveord@bit-net.com Sat Feb 7 16:44:07 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Feb 7 16:42:41 2004 Subject: The old WNAC-TV--Channel 7 In-Reply-To: <000c01c3ed88$25987730$6401a8c0@DAS8200> References: <402441D9.19320.8685F8@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040207164301.00a0ce50@pop3.bit-net.com> Lou wrote: >The last time I saw Major Mudd was at a personal appearance at a (gulp!) >CB Jamboree in Medford, summer 1973. He did take a pie in the face. >(And I should probably take a pie for admitting attending such an >event!) Wasn't that at about the height of the CB craze of the 70s, when the band was still semi-useful? From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Feb 8 00:48:51 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Feb 8 00:49:00 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <09C7696D.76E33B53.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <40258773.3189.33D4E0@localhost> On 7 Feb 2004 at 10:50, DonKelley@aol.com wrote: > Would this be the same person who stood behind a glass wall with the > outline of a map? She'd write the numbers wind swooshed backward so they > looked correct on camera. I'm thinking it was Jane Day, and she was on > Channel 5. That sounds like the one, but I thought she was on Channel 7. She stood behind a transparent map and appeared to write on the map backward from her perspective. I finally figured out they were just reversing the image electronically. I remember them doing that once on the $64,000 Question, when the contestant was writing mathematical calculations on a plastic sheet placed over the window of the isolation booth. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From markwats@comcast.net Sun Feb 8 12:03:17 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Feb 8 12:03:43 2004 Subject: WODS Saturday Night Party Message-ID: <001d01c3ee65$72f4a890$64f88018@markscomputer> Last night in my dial scanning I noticed about 9:30 that WODS (103.3 Boston) was playing a Beatles song, as they are celebrating the 40th anniversary of the Beatles' first appearance in the states. I heard Norm Thibault talking between Beatles tunes, he made no mention that he was in for Barry Scott or no mention of the "Saturday Night Party" Was the "Saturday Night Party" pre-empted for this week to make way for the all Beatles weekend or is the party over? Mark Watson From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun Feb 8 16:33:05 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sun Feb 8 16:33:15 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <40258773.3189.33D4E0@localhost> Message-ID: <002a01c3ee8b$2400c180$c3ec33d1@alvin> > On 7 Feb 2004 at 10:50, DonKelley@aol.com wrote: > > > Would this be the same person who stood behind a glass wall > with the > > outline of a map? She'd write the numbers wind swooshed > backward so > > they looked correct on camera. I'm thinking it was Jane > Day, and she > > was on Channel 5. > > That sounds like the one, but I thought she was on Channel 7. > She stood behind a > transparent map and appeared to write on the map backward > from her perspective. I finally > figured out they were just reversing the image > electronically. I remember them doing that > once on the $64,000 Question, when the contestant was writing > mathematical calculations > on a plastic sheet placed over the window of the isolation booth. > Given the technology and budgets of the time, wouldn't it be more likely that they simply aimed a camera into a mirror? Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Feb 8 17:07:35 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Feb 8 17:07:35 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <002a01c3ee8b$2400c180$c3ec33d1@alvin> References: <40258773.3189.33D4E0@localhost> Message-ID: <40266CD7.1562.5BBF21@localhost> On 8 Feb 2004 at 16:33, Brian Vita wrote: > Given the technology and budgets of the time, wouldn't it be more likely > that they simply aimed a camera into a mirror? Well, the engineers around here can answer better than I can about the technology. I do remember a mention of some sort that sounded like electronic reversal on the $64,000 Question episode that I mentioned. I'm under the impression that reversing the image from the camera isn't all that difficult to do, but, again, the engineers can say better. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Sun Feb 8 17:23:23 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Feb 8 17:23:38 2004 Subject: WODS Saturday Night Party In-Reply-To: <001d01c3ee65$72f4a890$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <20040208222323.40575.qmail@web60802.mail.yahoo.com> --- Mark Watson wrote: > Was the "Saturday Night Party" pre-empted for > this week to make way for > the all Beatles weekend or is the party over? A friend told me the other day that he'd heard on Oldies 103 that the Sat Nite Party would be pre-empted this week in favor of Beatles programming but I assume Barry will be back next week. From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Feb 8 17:42:39 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Feb 8 17:42:43 2004 Subject: Please check your addresses when sending to the list! Message-ID: <200402082242.i18Mgddh070421@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> I've seen several messages recently which were clearly meant for the list but addressed to one of the administrative addresses. Before hitting "send", *please* check to make sure that you're sending to the list's address. Messages sent to administrative addresses will not be posted. -GAWollman From steveord@bit-net.com Sun Feb 8 18:12:49 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Feb 8 18:17:10 2004 Subject: WODS Saturday Night Party In-Reply-To: <001d01c3ee65$72f4a890$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040208180835.00a12740@pop3.bit-net.com> Mark Watson wrote: > Last night in my dial scanning I noticed about 9:30 that WODS (103.3 >Boston) was playing a Beatles song, as they are celebrating the 40th >anniversary of the Beatles' first appearance in the states. I heard Norm >Thibault talking between Beatles tunes, he made no mention that he was in >for Barry Scott or no mention of the "Saturday Night Party" I always thought Barry was an odd choice to be hosting a "party" show. He sounds sooo nerdy...doesn't convey any energy or party atmosphere at all. He seems to fit a show like Lost 45s better...comes across like a guy who actually cares where all the members of the Partridge Family are today. From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Feb 8 18:32:55 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Feb 8 18:33:04 2004 Subject: Uncle Charlie's not amused In-Reply-To: <40266CD7.1562.5BBF21@localhost> References: <40258773.3189.33D4E0@localhost> <002a01c3ee8b$2400c180$c3ec33d1@alvin> <40266CD7.1562.5BBF21@localhost> Message-ID: <200402082332.i18NWttt070742@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > I'm under the impression that reversing the image from the camera > isn't all that difficult to do, but, again, the engineers can say > better. It would have been relatively easy to do on a tube camera: simply reverse the polarity of the horizontal positioning magnet. (And I'm not even an engineer and never touched a tube camera in my life.) With a modern CCD camera, you'd have to do it in the digital domain. -GAWollman From kvahey@tmail.com Sun Feb 8 18:51:35 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun Feb 8 18:51:54 2004 Subject: Please check your addresses when sending to the list! In-Reply-To: <200402082242.i18Mgddh070421@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200402082242.i18Mgddh070421@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1076284299.310F55EA@s29.dngr.org> On old BW cameras made by RCA there was a simple switch on the CCU to reverse image and another to reverse polarity On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 5:45pm, Garrett Wollman wrote: > I've seen several messages recently which were clearly meant for the > list but addressed to one of the administrative addresses. Before > hitting "send", *please* check to make sure that you're sending to the > list's address. Messages sent to administrative addresses will not be > posted. > > -GAWollman From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Feb 8 22:15:41 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Sun Feb 8 22:15:58 2004 Subject: The Grammys on CBS Message-ID: <002b01c3eeba$ff88f7c0$6500a8c0@office> Did CBS hire a local cable access group to do the audio on tonights Grammy's broadcast!?! From Mailer-Daemon@redwing.mail.pas.earthlink.net Mon Feb 9 07:21:44 2004 From: Mailer-Daemon@redwing.mail.pas.earthlink.net (Mail Delivery System) Date: Mon Feb 9 07:21:49 2004 Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Message-ID: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. 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Yeah, there were an awful lot of audio dropouts. Maybe that "newfangled" delay device was hiccupping. Of course, it's also possible the dropouts were happening somewhere downstream - were you also watching Channel 4 via Comcrash? (Though at least one audio boo-boo was definitely onsite - when Celine Dion's microphone wouldn't come on, there were a few seconds of control room audio that came through. Good thing they weren't using naughty language, either...) -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros@mit.edu From markwats@comcast.net Mon Feb 9 18:34:20 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon Feb 9 18:34:39 2004 Subject: Dan McCoy Gone From WODS Message-ID: <000701c3ef65$3ead3560$64f88018@markscomputer> All Access reporting that WODS (103.3 Boston) weekend/fill jock Dan McCoy has exited the station. Thought I heard him there yesterday. Unknown if it was his choice or management's choice. Mark Watson From scott@fybush.com Tue Feb 10 13:38:25 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Feb 10 13:32:46 2004 Subject: Springfield's newspaper? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040210133747.030c3b68@gwind.pair.com> Hey - when did the Springfield Union-News become The Republican? (Yes, I know this is semi-OT, but the newspaper collector in me really needs to know!) s From nuhuc@juno.com Tue Feb 10 13:53:15 2004 From: nuhuc@juno.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Tue Feb 10 13:55:20 2004 Subject: Springfield's newspaper? Message-ID: <20040210.105400.3638.2367035@webmail14.lax.untd.com> -- Scott Fybush wrote: Hey - when did the Springfield Union-News become The Republican? (Yes, I know this is semi-OT, but the newspaper collector in me really needs to know!) It happened about six months ago. Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From ssmyth@psu.edu Tue Feb 10 14:04:08 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue Feb 10 14:04:12 2004 Subject: Springfield's newspaper? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040210133747.030c3b68@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <000901c3f008$a98de840$59464742@Sean> Scott writes: << Hey - when did the Springfield Union-News become The Republican? (Yes, I know this is semi-OT, but the newspaper collector in me really needs to know!) >> The Sunday paper has been The Sunday Republican for a number of years, I believe. I didn't know the daily had become The Republican, too. For all the newspaper people out there: I have just launched the new boston-newspaper-interest (stodgy name, I know) mailing list. E-mail me off-list if you wish to join (and hadn't expressed interest in this to me already). Sean From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Feb 11 01:05:19 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Feb 11 01:05:44 2004 Subject: Springfield's newspaper? In-Reply-To: <000901c3f008$a98de840$59464742@Sean> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040210133747.030c3b68@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <40297FCF.444.6311C8@localhost> On 10 Feb 2004 at 14:04, Sean Smyth wrote: > The Sunday paper has been The Sunday Republican for a number of years, I > believe. I didn't know the daily had become The Republican, too. As in many places, there were a number of papers that were consolidated over the years. I believe there was once a Springfield Republican, separate from the Union and the News. I heard from somewhere that it goes back to when "Republican" meant Jeffersonian. When I was at UMass/Amherst in the 1960s, there was a morning Springfield Union, an evening Springfield News, and a Sunday Republican, all from the same company. I'm not sure when the daily paper became the Union-News. I'm under the impression that the change to the daily Republican took place sometime about a year ago. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Feb 11 01:34:57 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed Feb 11 01:35:45 2004 Subject: Springfield Republican newspaper history Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040211013137.02595850@pop.registeredsite.com> In answer to Scott's query, the two newspapers (the Union-News and the Republican) merged in March of 2003. Here's the entire history in a nutshell: Union-News to become The Republican New press, new look, historic name Sunday Republican (Springfield) March 2, 2003, p. A1 Readers of the Union-News will see the publication's name change to The Republican later this month when printing of the daily paper is fully converted to a new color press, returning the name of the newspaper to its earliest roots. The Sunday Republican name will remain, and The Republican will appear on the Monday through Saturday editions. The newspaper's roots go back 179 years to 1824, when Samuel Bowles, a young editor, loaded a flatboat in Hartford with his family, their belongings, and a new hand-lever press. He poled the boat 30 miles up the Connecticut River to establish a newspaper in the town of Springfield. This was the birth of The Republican. The Union-News name was created 15 years ago as the result of a merger of the morning and afternoon publications. "Printing both our daily and Sunday papers under the same name makes sense for several reasons," said Publisher Larry A. McDermott this week. "It simplifies and solidifies our name for branding purposes, and it accentuates the one name that has remained a constant in the area for nearly two centuries - The Republican." He said that the journalistic history of The Republican is a "long, rich, and storied one, and we are quite proud of it." The newspapers have also been called The Springfield Newspapers for many years, although no such corporate entity has ever existed and that name has never appeared on any of the publications. The name of the company that owns and publishes the newspaper is The Republican Co. "This change will mean less confusion, and it's a more sensible approach to defining who and what we are," McDermott said. "We are one newspaper seven days a week, and one name says it all." When Samuel Bowles founded The Republican in September 1824, the name reflected the editor's support for the young republic, which was still considered an experiment in a world dominated by monarchies and tyrannical rule. The political party of the same name was not founded until 31 years later. In 1844, Samuel Bowles II persuaded his father that the weekly Republican should become a daily with the same name. The Sunday Republican did not come into being until 1878. The Union-News, the present name of the daily paper, came about as a result of a merger in 1987 of the Morning Union and afternoon Daily News... From rjoc@webtv.net Wed Feb 11 12:52:17 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Wed Feb 11 12:52:28 2004 Subject: WNSX 97.7 drops sports-radio Message-ID: <20256-402A6BD1-189@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net> Just cruising thru the FM band, and noticed that local WNSX 97.7 Winter Harbor, ME is now back to simulcasting WFZX 101.7 Searsport's Classic Rock format...IDing once again as "The Fox 101.7 and 97.7" ESPN Sports Radio format lasted less than a year. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Feb 12 00:39:06 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Feb 12 00:39:24 2004 Subject: Springfield Republican newspaper history In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040211013137.02595850@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <402ACB2A.22906.4C545E@localhost> On 11 Feb 2004 at 1:34, Donna Halper wrote: > When Samuel Bowles founded The Republican in September 1824, the name > reflected the editor's support for the young republic, which was still > considered an experiment in a world dominated by monarchies and tyrannical > rule. The political party of the same name was not founded until 31 years > later. Actually, there were two political parties of that name. The original "Republican" Party was led by Thomas Jefferson and is generally considered the forerunner of the present-day Democratic Party. By 1824, the Federalist Party had vanished and Jefferson's Republican Party had split into a number of factions, so that there were four candidates for President that year, one of which was called the "National Republicans," which supported John Quincy Adams. Since no candidate got an electoral college majority, the election was thrown into the House of Representatives, which eventually elected Adams. In the 1828 election, Martin VanBuren created the Democratic Party by pulling together various factions behind Andrew Jackson. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From Mailer-Daemon@mx.cbeyond.com Thu Feb 12 02:16:30 2004 From: Mailer-Daemon@mx.cbeyond.com (Mail Delivery System) Date: Thu Feb 12 02:16:34 2004 Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Message-ID: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. 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transposed on TV set Message-ID: <20040212193958.17128.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> I have a feature I can set that goes along with SAP, Stereo, Closed Captioning etc... Since I "long-term" misplaced my remote and left it in this mode, I stuck with it. It displays the program name, network, and lenght of program. Might be called XLS (the TV manual is with the remote and the dozen left socks). I've noticed when watching some show, such as Kenny the Shark on Saturday morning on Ch 7 Boston, the program ID says Saturday Night Live. Also when I watching Ch7 Boston news, if they show a network clip, lets say from ESPN, the tag stays on the screen for many minutes, until some other tag displaces it. Now that's annoying, ESPN Net 7 0:15 3:00 showing on screen during a Playtex commercial. It also seems that when the VTR's get reused, they are soemtimes quick erased, or just recorded over and the imbedded tags are not erased causing some humorous tags/content situations. My questions are: What do they call that feature. Why isn't there an automatic clear function from the originating end when the tag no longer corresponds to the content. Some other rant I get into closed captioning, where the captions in no way match the content! By the way, from East Derry NH this morning, Bostons 2,4,5 were unwatchable due to E-Skip conditions. John ===== Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From scott@fybush.com Thu Feb 12 14:55:20 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Feb 12 14:49:41 2004 Subject: What do they call that feature - Program ID transposed on TV set In-Reply-To: <20040212193958.17128.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040212145402.03194240@gwind.pair.com> At 11:39 AM 2/12/2004 -0800, John Bolduc wrote: >By the way, from East Derry NH this morning, Bostons 2,4,5 were >unwatchable due to E-Skip conditions. The other end of that duct appears to have landed in Nashville and vicinity - my friend and fellow DXer Doug Smith down there watched the noon news on WFSB and had a nice log of WGBH 89.7 as well! So it's reasonable to guess that the signals giving 2, 4 and 5 trouble in East Derry today were Nashville's WKRN, WSMV and WTVF. I had some fluttering here in Rochester on channel 2, but nothing identifiable. s From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Feb 12 15:37:48 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Feb 12 15:37:52 2004 Subject: Nassau buys 3 more stations in N.H. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040212145402.03194240@gwind.pair.com> References: <20040212193958.17128.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20040212145402.03194240@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <54648.216.204.15.170.1076618268.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Nassau Broadcasting has added the 3 Vox stations in Concord to it's portfolio. http://www.concordmonitor.com/stories/market/bizstori2004/radio%5F21204%5F2004.shtml From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Feb 12 15:41:38 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Feb 12 15:41:40 2004 Subject: What do they call that feature - Program ID transposed on TV set In-Reply-To: <20040212193958.17128.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040212193958.17128.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <54711.216.204.15.170.1076618498.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> > I have a feature I can set that goes along with SAP, Stereo, Closed > Captioning etc... Since I "long-term" misplaced my remote and left it in > this mode, I stuck with it. *@#$^!?$& tvs where most functions are only accessible using a remote. Did I ever say that I hate remotes? From scott@fybush.com Thu Feb 12 15:51:19 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Feb 12 15:45:38 2004 Subject: Nassau buys 3 more stations in N.H. In-Reply-To: <54648.216.204.15.170.1076618268.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.co m> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040212145402.03194240@gwind.pair.com> <20040212193958.17128.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20040212145402.03194240@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040212155055.031da968@gwind.pair.com> At 03:37 PM 2/12/2004 -0500, SteveOrdinetz wrote: >Nassau Broadcasting has added the 3 Vox stations in Concord to it's >portfolio. > >http://www.concordmonitor.com/stories/market/bizstori2004/radio%5F21204%5F2004.shtml Hmmph...I spend 20 minutes on the phone with the reporter at the Monitor, and do I even get quoted? ;-) s From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Feb 12 17:08:13 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Feb 12 17:08:36 2004 Subject: Heads-up Re: Tomorrow's "Now with Bill Moyers" Message-ID: During last week's "Now with Bill Moyers", they ran a promo for the subsequent week's show, i.e. tomorrow Friday the 13th. One subject on the schedule is the seeming lock-step pattern of radio talk shows. One lady was shown stating that when she turned on one station, the subject didn't interest her, but when she flipped to another, then another, the same subject was being discussed. Sometimes breaking news can alter a magazine show's schedule but Moyers is a bulldog about media issues, so one can assume this piece will play. A partial schedule of telecasts in the New England area: In Boston, Friday night at 8:00 pm on channel 2...reruns at 2:00 and 4:00 am Saturday on channel 44. In Springfield, MA, Friday night at 9:00 pm, and reruns at 2:00 and 4:00 am on channel 57. In NH, only one showing, Sunday 02/15 at 6:00 pm on channel 11 and clones. In Maine, Friday at 11:00 pm and Sunday 02/15 at 6:00 PM on Maine PTV network stations. In VT, Friday at 8:00 pm and at 2:00 and 4:00 am Saturday on stations of Vermont PTV. There may even be coverage of the congressional hearing on the halfttime MTV show and Comcasts' attempted takeover of The Mouse. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Feb 12 17:23:36 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Feb 12 17:23:40 2004 Subject: What do they call that feature - Program ID transposed on TV set In-Reply-To: <20040212193958.17128.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040212193958.17128.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200402122223.i1CMNaav014716@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > It displays the program name, network, and lenght of program. Might be > called XLS (the TV manual is with the remote and the dozen left socks). XDS is the name. It's transmitted in either line 20 or line 21, I forget which (the same place as the V-chip ratings data). -GAWollman From kb1hwh@comcast.net Thu Feb 12 20:12:44 2004 From: kb1hwh@comcast.net (Fitzpatrick, Michael) Date: Thu Feb 12 20:12:58 2004 Subject: What do they call that feature - Program ID transposed on TV set Message-ID: <200402130112.i1D1CsDZ015679@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> >-----Original Message----- >From: Garrett Wollman >Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 5:24 PM > >XDS is the name. It's transmitted in either line 20 or line 21, I >forget which (the same place as the V-chip ratings data). Line 21 Field 2. Contains CC3, CC4, Text3, Text4, and XDS. XDS stands for eXtended Data Service. The V-Chip reads the data off of the XDS Packet signal. Trivia time, what does the "V" in V Chip stand for? --Mike Fitzpatrick From sven@gordsven.com Thu Feb 12 23:50:03 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Thu Feb 12 23:50:11 2004 Subject: What do they call that feature - Program ID transposed on TV set In-Reply-To: <200402130112.i1D1CsDZ015679@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Fitzpatrick, Michael wrote: > Trivia time, what does the "V" in V Chip stand for? "Violence"? I thought the whole idea of legislating the parental control chip in TV sets (a feature that existed in digitally tuned cable TV boxes for as long as I can remember -- as far back as 1991) was so that parents could block their kids from tuning in "violent" shows. -- Sven From kb1hwh@comcast.net Fri Feb 13 00:25:05 2004 From: kb1hwh@comcast.net (Fitzpatrick, Michael) Date: Fri Feb 13 00:25:29 2004 Subject: What do they call that feature - Program ID transposed on TV set In-Reply-To: <000d01c3f1da$62842da0$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <200402130525.i1D5PQDZ016875@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul Hopfgarten > >I thought it was Violence...but maybe it's verify? > >-Paul Hopfgareten >-East Derry NH Ding Ding you get the prize! The V is for Violence. --Mike Fitzpatrick From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Feb 13 01:12:26 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Feb 13 01:12:29 2004 Subject: Some list statistics Message-ID: <200402130612.i1D6CQMR017089@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> This list currently has 171 members. The mail addresses of the list members begin with every letter of the alphabet except Q, U, V, Y, and Z. -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Feb 13 01:14:21 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Feb 13 01:14:23 2004 Subject: C-SPAN carriage of Constitutional Convention Message-ID: <200402130614.i1D6ELLB017105@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> I noticed that C-SPAN carried the video feed from the State House this evening. Is this the first time that the proceedings have been shown live on national television? Does anyone know when and how the arrangement began for channel 44 to carry the House proceedings? -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Feb 13 07:12:03 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri Feb 13 07:17:46 2004 Subject: Some list statistics References: <200402130612.i1D6CQMR017089@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <003001c3f22b$613848e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Is this an exhortation to recruit members named Ulrich and Ursula? What about Quincy, Vinny, and Yankel? Doesn't Len Zola occasionally post to the list? I guess his e-mail address doesn't start with his last name. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Garrett Wollman To: Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 1:12 AM Subject: Some list statistics > This list currently has 171 members. The mail addresses of the list > members begin with every letter of the alphabet except Q, U, V, Y, and > Z. > > -GAWollman > From ssmyth@psu.edu Fri Feb 13 11:12:17 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri Feb 13 11:12:22 2004 Subject: C-SPAN carriage of Constitutional Convention In-Reply-To: <200402130614.i1D6ELLB017105@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <003801c3f24c$26f0afd0$59464742@Sean> Garrett writes: > Does anyone know when and how the arrangement began for > channel 44 to carry the House proceedings? House proceedings as in regular House day-to-day business? I seem to recall that starting some time in the late 1980s. From ssmyth@psu.edu Fri Feb 13 11:18:53 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri Feb 13 11:19:01 2004 Subject: C-SPAN carriage of Constitutional Convention In-Reply-To: <003801c3f24c$26f0afd0$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <003901c3f24d$14e23b00$59464742@Sean> I wrote: > Garrett writes: > > Does anyone know when and how the arrangement began for > > channel 44 to carry the House proceedings? > > House proceedings as in regular House day-to-day business? I > seem to recall that starting some time in the late 1980s. I found this brief Susan B. blurb from the March 8, 1989, Globe: "Live coverage of the State House of Representatives will resume today at noon on WGBX (Ch. 44), after being off the air since last November, according to spokeswoman Barbara Levitov. The program, "Gavel to Gavel," is usually on weekdays from 1-5 p.m., but was off the air because of construction and relocation of the studio at the State House." I don't remember ever seeing the House affairs before then on TV, but apparently they were. Here in Pennsylvania I don't believe they show any working sessions of the House or Senate on any channels, except maybe for some special hearings on the Pennsylvania Cable Network (PCN). From staffing@livebridge.com Fri Feb 13 12:40:46 2004 From: staffing@livebridge.com (Staffing @ LiveBridge) Date: Fri Feb 13 12:33:44 2004 Subject: TEST Message-ID: <004001c3f258$9c2b8ed0$341916ac@bdean> Dear Applicant: ? Thank you for your interest in LiveBridge. Your resume has been received and is now being reviewed against our active employment opportunities. Should your qualifications match our current needs, you will be contacted. ? We encourage you to visit our website at for updated career opportunities. Please re-apply for any new position for which you believe you are qualified. ? Thank you again for your interest in LiveBridge, and best wishes with your career endeavors. ? Sincerely, ? LiveBridge, Inc. LiveBridge Canada, ULC From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Fri Feb 13 14:03:31 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Fri Feb 13 14:03:38 2004 Subject: TEST References: <004001c3f258$9c2b8ed0$341916ac@bdean> Message-ID: <030601c3f264$13c5fe20$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> >> Thank you again for your interest in LiveBridge, and best wishes with your >> career endeavors. Thanks! And same to you! ;-) JP From sar670@hotmail.com Fri Feb 13 14:01:35 2004 From: sar670@hotmail.com (SAR) Date: Fri Feb 13 14:16:19 2004 Subject: Sstop Spreading Hatred Message-ID: Subject: Sstop Spreading Hatred Dear Sir, I think being a Muslim you are not working for peace. You are misguided, mistaken and spreading hatred through disinformation, which is resulting in death and miseries for number of innocent people living around the world at the hands of merciless KILLER MUSLIMS and also bringing bad name to Mohammed's Religion Of Islam. Try and work for peace and reconciliation, and prove to the WORLD through your deeds that MOHAMMED teaches "love & peace" and not Cruelty, Inhumanity and "Hatred & Killing" of the innocent civilians. S.A.R From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Feb 13 19:05:24 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:05:36 2004 Subject: And you thought the controversy over Janet Jackson was silly! Message-ID: <001f01c3f28e$3f8b2fb0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Canada's government on Friday condemned a show by U.S. late-night television host Conan O'Brien that insulted people in French-speaking Quebec and seemed to suggest everyone in the province was homosexual. The federal government said O'Brien had gone far too far with the show broadcast on Thursday in which he went to Quebec, a province which has had separatist governments for much of the last 20 years and is a delicate political topic in Canada. At one point in the show, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog -- a hand puppet that is a regular on the show -- said to a Quebecer: "You're French, you're obnoxious and you no speekay English." It told another: "I can smell your crotch from here." O'Brien's team were also shown replacing street signs in the province with those that read "Quebecqueer Street" and "Rue des Pussies." http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=638&u=/nm/20040213/en_nm/leisure_canada_conan_dc&printer=1 We need to do something about Canada, -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Feb 13 19:12:00 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:12:07 2004 Subject: News from Maine Message-ID: <002501c3f28f$2b729300$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> 93.5 WCTB Fairfield, which used to be my favorite radio station when it was classic country, finally has a new format. The station played Christmas music from Thanksgiving through New Year's Day. During January, the station stunted with a mix of everything from country to oldies to pop to rock. Now the station is Classic Rock calling itself Central Maine's Classics the River 93.5. WLBZ-TV anchor Rick Tyler is leaving the station. He was offered a new contract to work as a reporter and turned it down and will work with his wife in her p.r. business. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sat Feb 14 00:37:40 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sat Feb 14 00:38:15 2004 Subject: And you thought the controversy over Janet Jackson was silly! In-Reply-To: <001f01c3f28e$3f8b2fb0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000601c3f2bc$aa0c1d80$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Dan wrote: >>(snip) We need to do something about Canada,<< I'm tired, but damn, son, THAT was funny. You must be doing the Bill O'Neill Home Correspondence course on do-it-yourself, LOL stuff. I LOL'd. Beer out the nose, etc. I know, I know: way too much info... Thanks for the chuckle! - -Chuck Igo From tmw207@adelphia.net Sat Feb 14 15:43:40 2004 From: tmw207@adelphia.net (Terry Wood) Date: Sat Feb 14 15:43:45 2004 Subject: Sstop Spreading Hatred References: Message-ID: <000b01c3f33b$3ad7b120$6501a8c0@S1099838481> What is this? ----- Original Message ----- From: "SAR" To: Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:01 PM Subject: Sstop Spreading Hatred > > Subject: Sstop Spreading Hatred > > Dear Sir, > > I think being a Muslim you are not working for peace. You are misguided, > mistaken and spreading hatred through disinformation, which is resulting in > death and miseries for number of innocent people living around the world at > the hands of merciless KILLER MUSLIMS and also bringing bad name to > Mohammed's Religion Of Islam. > > Try and work for peace and reconciliation, and prove to the WORLD through > your deeds that MOHAMMED teaches "love & peace" and not Cruelty, Inhumanity > and "Hatred & Killing" of the innocent civilians. > > S.A.R > > > > > > > From markwats@comcast.net Sun Feb 15 14:03:02 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Feb 15 14:02:52 2004 Subject: Lowell Spinners Baseball On WCAP Again This Season Message-ID: <002501c3f3f6$564eb910$64f88018@markscomputer> The Lowell Sun reports that WCAP (980 Lowell) will once again air Lowell Spinners baseball this season. All 76 games (38 home, 38 road) will be carried. This will be WCAP's second season with the Spinners. Ryan Johnston, who is also the play by play voice for the Lowell Lock Monsters hockey team, will return for his second season of play by play duties with the Spinners. Mark Watson From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Feb 15 15:24:12 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Feb 15 16:17:23 2004 Subject: Never Mind the Grammys(tm) 5-Minute Delay... Message-ID: Never mind the Grammys(tm) 5-Minute delay, there was a TWO WEEK delay on todays's (02/15) LTAR. The subject area for the first few minutes' discussion was the offensiveness of the ccommercials and half-time show during the , um, Big Game February first. Donna and Bob may have had their own opinions, but couldn't have been aware that over 200,000 complaints had been made to the FCC (some from "religious leaders" objecting to the Janet Jackson fallout, including oddly enough the titular Bishop of Akron I hear). I didn't view the telecast or the commercials that day, but I heard about the one featuring the flatulent horse. This isn't the first time the excretory antics of beasts were used in a commercial during the Big Game; a couple of years ago, an auto maker showed a squadron of birds chasing a sports car owner hoping to dump a load on the vehicle's spiffy finish. The driver fortunately made it to the garage in time. This spot apparently was intended to highlight the car's rack-and-pigeon steering! All of the criticisms of the erectile-dysfuntion ads overlooked a perennial problem of pharmaceutical manufacturers: preventing a competitors' brand-name from becoming a synonym for the product category itself. This happend to aspirin in the early 20th century, and Pfizer's "Viagara" threatened to become the drug of choice for those with wan weenies on brand-name alone. Thus Eli Lilly with Cialis and Bayer (who had lost the rights to "aspirin" a century ago) maker of Levitra had to spend a lot of money to bring their brands to the awareness of a large and largely male audience. (I understand the next major pharmaceutical firm to come out with an erectile dysfunction preparation will be Upjohn!) ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sun Feb 15 17:24:34 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sun Feb 15 17:17:54 2004 Subject: WBZ airing 2 week-old material Message-ID: <200402151724.AA3690004632@mail.ttlc.net> Today, while driving to work, I heard Anthony Silva and Dee Lee doing a repeat of their weekly shtick. I thought the episode sounded a little familiar. Sure enough, her mention of buying a big screen TV for the upcoming SuperBowl game "this weekend" clinched it. Shall we blame it on the computer? From RogerKola@aol.com Sun Feb 15 18:36:03 2004 From: RogerKola@aol.com (RogerKola@aol.com) Date: Sun Feb 15 18:36:14 2004 Subject: WESX 1230 and North Shore Spirit Baseball Message-ID: <1a5.1f6d0400.2d615c63@aol.com> The North Shore Spirit of Northeast League Baseball announced that WESX (1230 Salem) will once again air as the Flagship Station of Spirit Baseball this season. All home games at the updated Frasier Field in Lynn and road games will be carried. This will be WESX's second season with the Spinners. Don Boyle will return for his second season of play by play duties with the Spirit. Thanks Mark Watson for the format! From RogerKola@aol.com Sun Feb 15 18:48:30 2004 From: RogerKola@aol.com (RogerKola@aol.com) Date: Sun Feb 15 18:48:42 2004 Subject: WESX 1230 and North Shore Spirit Baseball Message-ID: <1d4.1a1237bd.2d615f4e@aol.com> >>>This will be WESX's second season with the Spinners. <<< Make that the Spirit.....(almost got them all Mark!) Roger WA!KAT From markwats@comcast.net Sun Feb 15 19:50:09 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Feb 15 19:50:03 2004 Subject: WESX 1230 and North Shore Spirit Baseball References: <1d4.1a1237bd.2d615f4e@aol.com> Message-ID: <002101c3f426$d41e0e60$64f88018@markscomputer> RogerKola wrote: > Make that the Spirit.....(almost got them all Mark!) Not to be confused with the Spirit 900 AM, WSNH Nashua, who had Nashua Pride baseball home games last season. Haven't heard if they'll be back on WSNH for the 2004 season. Mark Watson From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Feb 16 00:30:48 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon Feb 16 00:30:45 2004 Subject: query for program directors Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040216002325.024318c8@pop.registeredsite.com> I've been hearing a lot of ads for continuing education and night school college courses on WBZ and several other stations 25-44 radio stations-- University of Phoenix (which has a campus in Braintree), Harvard Extension School, U.Mass, Eastern Nazarene, Cambridge College, Quincy College, just to name a few I've heard lately. What's the deal? I mean, I know that some people are out of work and need job re-training, but these ads seem to be aimed at getting adults to go back to school and either finish their undergrad degree or get a Master's. Is this just a Boston phenomenon-- that is, are colleges in and around Boston trying to get some more adult degree students, or have you heard these types of commercials in other cities too? And does anybody have a hot theory about why these colleges have suddenly decided to become heavy users of radio? I can recall when they didn't use radio at all... From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Feb 16 00:39:01 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon Feb 16 00:39:01 2004 Subject: quick clarification Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040216003814.024346c0@pop.registeredsite.com> There is a typo in my first message (you can't get good help these days)-- I meant these ads are being heard on stations that are aimed at the 25-44 demographic. Sorry for any confusion. From Kaimbridge@programmer.net Mon Feb 16 12:10:11 2004 From: Kaimbridge@programmer.net (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Mon Feb 16 12:10:23 2004 Subject: W40BO Again CB/TD; 'BNW Drops Country Birdfeed Message-ID: <4030F973.8AABB27E@Programmer.Net> Since Feb.5th, W40BO--normaly relaying WBPX-68--has been running color bars, with "technical difficulties, please stand by" superimposed (this happened last year for several months, too). Secondly, WBNW-1.120 has dropped ABC's "Real Country" birdfeed as filler, with the venerable "Bruce Williams" covering evenings, Geoff Metcalf on overnights (from 10pm-4am!?!) and Doug Stephan at 4am--personally, I'd rather they'd kept the heavily processed "Real Country"! P=( [Private to Laurence: They also got rid of the TOH ID with that little classical ditty as the music bed!] ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Feb 16 13:24:16 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon Feb 16 13:24:38 2004 Subject: W40BO Again CB/TD; 'BNW Drops Country Birdfeed References: <4030F973.8AABB27E@Programmer.Net> Message-ID: <002501c3f4ba$1f9d4200$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I think WBNW is also now using its night power/pattern at night. Probably the first time they have done so in about four years. To compensate, the audio is so incredibly compressed that it is almost unintelligible. I'm not sure which is preferable--so drowned out by interference that it is unintelligible or so compressed it is unintelligible. I doubt whether Barry Armstrong wants to spend the money to improve the night signal--if indeed any such improvement is technically feasible. Presumably, though, he was warned about using the day power and pattern all night or he wouldn't have changed the way the station was operating. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Kaimbridge M. GoldChild To: B-R-I Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 12:10 PM Subject: W40BO Again CB/TD; 'BNW Drops Country Birdfeed > Since Feb.5th, W40BO--normaly relaying WBPX-68--has been running > color bars, with "technical difficulties, please stand by" > superimposed (this happened last year for several months, too). > > Secondly, WBNW-1.120 has dropped ABC's "Real Country" birdfeed as > filler, with the venerable "Bruce Williams" covering evenings, > Geoff Metcalf on overnights (from 10pm-4am!?!) and Doug Stephan > at 4am--personally, I'd rather they'd kept the heavily processed > "Real Country"! P=( > > [Private to Laurence: They also got rid of the TOH ID with that > little classical ditty as the music bed!] > > ~Kaimbridge~ > > ----- > Wanted-Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): > http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html > ---------- > Digitology-The Grand Theory Of The Universe: > http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html > > ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Feb 17 00:53:25 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Feb 17 00:54:02 2004 Subject: CBS cancels Medicare ad Message-ID: <40316605.15479.1D0CFF@localhost> CBS has pulled the Bush Administration's ad on Medicare, saying that it had violated their policy against controversial public policy ads. Their action has been criticized by the Administration and Congressional Republicans. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/14/politics/14MEDI.html ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Feb 17 03:32:46 2004 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Content Filter) Date: Tue Feb 17 03:32:57 2004 Subject: Undeliverable message returned to sender Message-ID: <20040217083246.A8DD12AA187@mail34-haw-R.bigfish.com> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. Delivery failed for the following recipients(s): robyn_peterson@ziffdavis.com The message you sent contained an attachment which the recipient has chosen to block. Usually these sort of attachments are blocked to prevent malicious software from being sent to the recipient in question. 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Read all about it (before it disappears) at: http://www.boston.com/ae/events/articles/2004/02/17/a_gift_for_giving_buying_tupperware Scroll to item #4. Incidentally, my perusal of the weekend schedule at www.969fmtalk.com shows no changes to the Saturday line-up. I wonder what news-oriented shows they plan to add. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Feb 17 17:48:14 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Feb 17 17:48:37 2004 Subject: Donna Mentioned in Boston Herald Article Message-ID: Sorry to be so late getting around to this, but the Reigning Diva of All Things Radio, Donna Halper, was mentioned in yesterday's (02/16) Boston Herald article by Dean Johnson regarding the Comcast/Disney takeover. Read all about it at: http://theedge.bostonherald.com/tvNews/edgeTV.bg?articleid=421 You think YOU have a long commute...imagine travelling all the way to UMass/Amherst during THIS winter! (Unless that's an error) Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Feb 17 18:04:46 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Feb 17 18:04:54 2004 Subject: Donna Mentioned in Boston Herald Article In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200402172304.i1HN4kbR019510@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Sorry to be so late getting around to this, but the Reigning > Diva of All Things Radio, Donna Halper, was mentioned in yesterday's > (02/16) Boston Herald article by Dean Johnson regarding > the Comcast/Disney takeover. She also got a nice mention in the most recent Radio World magazine (for those who have the connections to get a subscription). -GAWollman From Kaimbridge@programmer.net Tue Feb 17 18:38:12 2004 From: Kaimbridge@programmer.net (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Tue Feb 17 18:38:41 2004 Subject: 969FM Talk Talks the Talk But Doesn't Wok the Wok Message-ID: <4032A5E4.3E8A1754@Programmer.Net> Laurence Glavin wrote, > According to today's Boston Globe (02/17), WTKK-FM 96.9 > unceremoniously dropped their Saturday afternoon food > and cooking show > I wonder what news-oriented shows they plan to add. Ron Insana: http://www.radioandrecords.com/subscribers/TodaysNews/archive/arch021304.htm#Insana Looks To Trump The Competition ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Feb 18 01:51:02 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed Feb 18 01:51:09 2004 Subject: Donna Mentioned in Boston Herald Article In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040218015000.025608f0@pop.registeredsite.com> >Laurence wrote-- > >You think YOU have a long commute...imagine travelling all >the way to UMass/Amherst during THIS winter! >(Unless that's an error) No error-- I am trying to get my PhD after all these years, and if I teach a course or two, I get a course or two in exchange. Yeah, it's a 2 hour drive, but studying for the PhD, while a lot of work, is also kind of fun! From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Feb 18 01:52:46 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed Feb 18 01:52:41 2004 Subject: Donna Mentioned in Boston Herald Article In-Reply-To: <200402172304.i1HN4kbR019510@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040218015120.023eb188@pop.registeredsite.com> >Garrett spake thusly-- > >She also got a nice mention in the most recent Radio World magazine >(for those who have the connections to get a subscription). No, I didn't see it-- and it's not on line either... perhaps somebody will save me a copy! From abruzzese@biochem.bumc.bu.edu Wed Feb 18 09:56:09 2004 From: abruzzese@biochem.bumc.bu.edu (Tony Abruzzese) Date: Wed Feb 18 09:56:19 2004 Subject: 969FM Talk Talks the Talk But Doesn't Wok the Wok In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40337D09.9080100@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> Laurence Glavin wrote: >According to today's Boston Globe (02/17), WTKK-FM 96.9 >unceremoniously dropped their Saturday afternoon food >and cooking show without giving the host or the audience >(if there is one) any advance notice. Read all about it (before it >disappears) at: > >http://www.boston.com/ae/events/articles/2004/02/17/a_gift_for_giving_buying_tupperware > >Scroll to item #4. Incidentally, my perusal of the >weekend schedule at www.969fmtalk.com >shows no changes to the Saturday line-up. >I wonder what news-oriented shows they plan to add. > > > A Ron Insana money/politics show takes over the noon -3pm slot, and Rick Schaffer's (sp?) Saturday money show goes from 3-7 p.m., according to the spot I heard the other day. Tony From sven@gordsven.com Wed Feb 18 11:30:43 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Wed Feb 18 11:30:51 2004 Subject: Donna Mentioned in Boston Herald Article In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040218015000.025608f0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Donna Halper wrote: > No error-- I am trying to get my PhD after all these years, and if I teach Hmm.... Doctor Donna does have a nice ring to it. :) :) Good luck!! -- Sven From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Feb 18 17:20:44 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Feb 18 17:21:06 2004 Subject: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. Message-ID: This is news from outside the region (unless some outlet at 1030 khz powers up) that I heard the other day on Minnesota Public Radio's "Marketplace" with David Bron...I mean David Brown. Sidebar: this switch of hosts has to rank with the replacement of Allen Ludden by Robert Earle on the "G.E. College Bowl" TV show, although David Broncaccio didn't die. David Brown sounds like his predecessor from voice to vocal mannerisms, and unless one heard Broncaccio's farewell show, regular listeners might have missed the succession entirely! Anyway, "Marketplace" did a segment on how high-powered AM stations in Mexico were interfering with co-channel outlets in Callyfoarneeya (Ahnold's pronunciation), TX and the Rockies. They focused on KSFO-AM 560 in SanFran, but alluded to other similar situations. One Mexican outlet was singled out: XEPE, south of San Diego. I did a Google(tm) on the words 'XEPE' and 'interference', and got this URL: http://www.bext.com/_CGC/2004/cgc612.htm I remember several years ago getting the border-blaster on 1570 from Mexico that I think ran 250 kw; if Vicente Fox is going to allow this to happen, who knows, they might try 1030 (athough there's one in Corpus Christi, TX) and suddenly the returning David Brudnoy may do his show to the accompaniment of Mariachi music! Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From scott@fybush.com Wed Feb 18 17:40:50 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Feb 18 17:35:08 2004 Subject: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040218173827.034f0558@gwind.pair.com> Thanks, Methue- I mean, Laurence! I just listened to the archive of the show (http://www.marketplace.org/shows/2004/02/17_mpp.html) - interesting piece, and relatively accurate. The two new signals in addition to the 560 are on 780 and 920 and are already testing. It's going to end up with somebody getting a pair of bolt cutters and a blowtorch and heading across the border late one night, I just know it... And the difference between the old-time border blasters (XERF 1570, XEROK 800, XERB 1090, etc.) is that they operated (and still do) on frequencies legally allocated to Mexico by international treaty. The new 560/780/920 don't! s At 05:20 PM 2/18/2004 -0500, Laurence Glavin wrote: >Anyway, "Marketplace" did a segment on how high-powered >AM stations in Mexico were interfering with co-channel >outlets in Callyfoarneeya (Ahnold's pronunciation), >TX and the Rockies. They focused on KSFO-AM 560 in >SanFran, but alluded to other similar situations. >One Mexican outlet was singled out: XEPE, south >of San Diego. I did a Google(tm) on the words 'XEPE' >and 'interference', and got this URL: > >http://www.bext.com/_CGC/2004/cgc612.htm > >I remember several years ago getting the border-blaster >on 1570 from Mexico that I think ran 250 kw; if >Vicente Fox is going to allow this to happen, who knows, >they might try 1030 (athough there's one in Corpus Christi, >TX) and suddenly the returning David Brudnoy may do his >show to the accompaniment of Mariachi music! From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Feb 18 17:35:59 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Feb 18 17:36:14 2004 Subject: Today's Globe Brimming With News Message-ID: Today's (02/18) Boston Globe was brimming with items of interest! The names and faces portion of the paper's entertainment section had tidbits on the possible career plans of Chris Lydon and a Maine bureau for New England Cable News. Read all about it at: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2004/02/18/mpr_eyes_lydon_for_national_radio_show/ Then over on the radio/TV page itself, probably not URLable (is that a word?), the Radio Highlights block said that David Brudnoy will be on his eponymous program tonight at 7:00 to discuss his battle with Merkle Press, I mean Merkel carcinoma. The quizzical question is, will he HOST the show as before or will he be a guest for one hour with Jack Williams? As they say "stay tuned". Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Feb 18 17:39:34 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Feb 18 17:39:53 2004 Subject: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. Message-ID: >DATE: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:40:50 >From: Scott Fybush >To: lglavin@lycos.com,boston-radio->interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Thanks, Methue- I mean, Laurence! > >I just listened to the archive of the show >(http://www.marketplace.org/shows/2004/02/17_mpp.html) - interesting piece, >and relatively accurate. The two new signals in addition to the 560 are on >780 and 920 and are already testing. It's going to end up with somebody >getting a pair of bolt cutters and a blowtorch and heading across the >border late one night, I just know it... > Americans going across the border INTO Mexico to break the law? Is this a skit on Saturday Night Live's "Bizarro World"? ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From kvahey@tmail.com Wed Feb 18 17:54:36 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed Feb 18 17:54:57 2004 Subject: media goes overboard on A-Rod Message-ID: <1077144876.19AE1C3E@r31.dngr.org> Any one who doubts the Red Sox are king in Boston can just look at the reaction of sports media in Boston and New England with the news A-Rod was going to New York. http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/2004_02_15_molori_archive.html From miscon@miscon.net Wed Feb 18 19:19:14 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Wed Feb 18 19:18:44 2004 Subject: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. Message-ID: <200402181919.AA258998594@miscon.net> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Laurence Glavin" Reply-To: lglavin@lycos.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:20:44 -0500 >This is news from outside the region (unless some outlet at >1030 khz powers up) that I heard the other day on Minnesota >Public Radio's "Marketplace" with David Bron...I mean >David Brown. > >Sidebar: this switch of hosts has to rank with the replacement >of Allen Ludden by Robert Earle on the "G.E. College Bowl" >TV show, although David Broncaccio didn't die. >David Brown sounds like his predecessor from voice to >vocal mannerisms, and unless one heard Broncaccio's >farewell show, regular listeners might have missed the succession entirely! David Brown, for those that might remember, hosted Monitor Radio's daily afternoon news program for 4 or 5 years here in Boston (and then from a closet in his LA apartment). To my ear, he sounds very much the same as he did back then. He had worked at Marketplace for nearly 3 years (as a senior producer) before getting the full-time hosting nod there. I tend to remember him as a curious, quite (yet quite passionate) fellow, who would eat entire packets of Sweet'N Low brand granulated sugar substitute in the announcer's studio. Hmmm. Mike From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Feb 18 20:00:09 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Wed Feb 18 20:00:15 2004 Subject: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040218173827.034f0558@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <001401c3f683$b8fd1bd0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 5:40 PM Subject: Re: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. > And the difference between the old-time border blasters (XERF 1570, XEROK > 800, XERB 1090, etc.) is that they operated (and still do) on frequencies > legally allocated to Mexico by international treaty. The new 560/780/920 don't! Why are they allowed to do so? Isn't there a treaty that governs this? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Feb 18 20:02:52 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Wed Feb 18 20:02:56 2004 Subject: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. References: <200402181919.AA258998594@miscon.net> Message-ID: <002301c3f684$1a2bf430$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Marketplace continues to have a Maine connection. David Broncaccio grew up in Waterville, Maine and did his first radio work there. No working as a correspondent for Marketplace is Matthew Algio, who worked at Maine Public Radio for years before going to work for Marketplace. From scott@fybush.com Wed Feb 18 20:13:51 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Feb 18 20:08:08 2004 Subject: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. In-Reply-To: <001401c3f683$b8fd1bd0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040218173827.034f0558@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040218200715.03501d00@gwind.pair.com> At 08:00 PM 2/18/2004 -0500, Dan Billings wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Scott Fybush" >To: ; >Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 5:40 PM >Subject: Re: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. > > > And the difference between the old-time border blasters (XERF 1570, XEROK > > 800, XERB 1090, etc.) is that they operated (and still do) on frequencies > > legally allocated to Mexico by international treaty. The new 560/780/920 >don't! > >Why are they allowed to do so? Isn't there a treaty that governs this? There sure is - a treaty between the US and Mexico that was signed in the mid-80s. It's available at the FCC website as a very long PDF; I can post the link if anyone's really interested. The treaty provides a mechanism for complaints to be handled, and that procedure is apparently being followed...but it moves very slowly. I have heard speculation - entirely unconfirmed - that Mexico believes the US has breached the treaty by allowing AM IBOC on the air, and this is its way of retaliating. I'm not sure I believe that. s From billo@shoreham.net Wed Feb 18 20:09:03 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Feb 18 20:09:20 2004 Subject: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. In-Reply-To: <200402181919.AA258998594@miscon.net> Message-ID: <00c401c3f684$f7551490$0200a8c0@boneill> > I tend to remember him as a curious, quite (yet quite > passionate) fellow, who would eat entire packets of Sweet'N > Low brand granulated sugar substitute in the announcer's studio. Hmmm. > > Mike I bet that paper packet added fiber? Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Feb 18 20:36:05 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Wed Feb 18 20:36:10 2004 Subject: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040218173827.034f0558@gwind.pair.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20040218200715.03501d00@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <002d01c3f688$bdecbe20$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Dan Billings" ; ; Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 8:13 PM Subject: Re: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. > There sure is - a treaty between the US and Mexico that was signed in the > mid-80s. It's available at the FCC website as a very long PDF; I can post > the link if anyone's really interested. > > The treaty provides a mechanism for complaints to be handled, and that > procedure is apparently being followed...but it moves very slowly. We need to do something about Mexico. It seems like three cruise missles could solve this problem. ;-) -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From sven@gordsven.com Wed Feb 18 20:44:49 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Wed Feb 18 20:45:00 2004 Subject: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040218200715.03501d00@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Scott Fybush wrote: > I have heard speculation - entirely unconfirmed - that Mexico believes > the US has breached the treaty by allowing AM IBOC on the air, and this > is its way of retaliating. I'm not sure I believe that. Well...if it's true I'm all for it if it does kill IBOC... :) Hell...I was in Tijuana last year for 10 days. Personally I prefer most Mexican AM stations' style of programming. Most of it is full-service...news/talk/oldies or A/C music. En espanol of course. -- sven From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed Feb 18 22:11:37 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed Feb 18 22:11:40 2004 Subject: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. In-Reply-To: <002d01c3f688$bdecbe20$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000401c3f696$1723b810$c3ec33d1@alvin> > > There sure is - a treaty between the US and Mexico that was > signed in > > the mid-80s. It's available at the FCC website as a very > long PDF; I > > can post the link if anyone's really interested. > > > > The treaty provides a mechanism for complaints to be > handled, and that > > procedure is apparently being followed...but it moves very slowly. > > We need to do something about Mexico. > > It seems like three cruise missles could solve this problem. > If they do that they'll call home all of their workers and there'll be no one left in Southern CA to turn off the lights. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Feb 19 00:35:23 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Feb 19 00:35:49 2004 Subject: Donna Mentioned in Boston Herald Article In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040218015000.025608f0@pop.registeredsite.com> References: Message-ID: <403404CB.8160.A0A932@localhost> On 18 Feb 2004 at 1:51, Donna Halper wrote: > No error-- I am trying to get my PhD after all these years, and if I teach > a course or two, I get a course or two in exchange. Yeah, it's a 2 hour > drive, but studying for the PhD, while a lot of work, is also kind of fun! Sounds like great fun! Have you checked out WMUA? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Feb 19 11:48:11 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu Feb 19 11:48:56 2004 Subject: the company that runs WALE Super Max (990-AM) has filed for bankruptcy Message-ID: <000c01c3f708$29186710$c3ec33d1@alvin> Excerpt from Providence Journal: PROVIDENCE -- Cumbre Communications Corp., the company that runs Spanish-language station WALE Super Max (990-AM) has filed for protection under Chapter 11 of the federal bankruptcy code while it works out an arrangement to cover the cost of a possible hazardous waste cleanup on station property. For the complete article: http://www.projo.com/news/content/projo_20040219_pradio19.23bfbf.html Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com From billo@shoreham.net Thu Feb 19 15:16:55 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Feb 19 15:17:07 2004 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <002101c3f725$52655890$0200a8c0@boneill> The NY Post reports on the Mel Karmizan concall with affils on his so called edict to clean it up on Infinity's 180 stations. http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/18294.htm Don & Mike Show (WXZO 96.7 Willsboro/Burlington) dedicating the opener of their show (they still have that medium market sound down real well) are complaining about their new limits on things excretory. Their complaint is "We're a show for guys, on a network for guys. What are we for, soccer moms?" Should be interesting to see how Howard Stern handles the so-called new limits on return from vacation next week. Don & Mike had been bounced without pay for a couple of weeks for one of the naughty seven getting through. Bill O'Neill From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Wed Feb 18 21:19:53 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Feb 19 15:28:13 2004 Subject: Mexican Radio Stations Interfering In U.S. In-Reply-To: <002d01c3f688$bdecbe20$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <20040219021953.87297.qmail@web12403.mail.yahoo.com> Dan wrote: > We need to do something about Mexico. > > It seems like three cruise missles could solve this > problem. > > ;-) Spoken like a true Republican! ;-) ;-) JP ===== Joe Pappalardo joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Feb 19 15:04:59 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Feb 19 15:28:17 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc Message-ID: <000701c3f723$a9d488a0$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Does anyone know if 1540, 930 & 610AM in NH are simulcast all the time? Or just certain programs? Thanks JP From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Feb 19 16:13:21 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Feb 19 16:13:24 2004 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <002101c3f725$52655890$0200a8c0@boneill> References: <002101c3f725$52655890$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <51189.216.204.15.170.1077225201.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> > The NY Post reports on the Mel Karmizan concall with affils on his so > called edict to clean it up on Infinity's 180 stations. > http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/18294.htm > > Don & Mike Show (WXZO 96.7 Willsboro/Burlington) dedicating the opener > of their show (they still have that medium market sound down real well) > are complaining about their new limits on things excretory. Their > complaint is "We're a show for guys, on a network for guys. What are we > for, soccer moms?" Should be interesting to see how Howard Stern > handles the so-called new limits on return from vacation next week. Don > & Mike had been bounced without pay for a couple of weeks for one of the > naughty seven getting through. They have a good point. Their show is essentially 4 hr of non-sports "guy talk"...yeah there may be some references to taking a whiz or something, but it's more in the context of general conversation than the focus of the discussion. Stern ought to be interesting...take away the overt sexual references, lesbians, etc. and what's left? I thought that Stern's contract specifically gives him total freedom as long as he doesn't use the infamous 7 words. While content limits are long overdue, I don't think it's fair to solely pick on the broadcast industry. Much of the reason this material is gravitating to radio & broadcast tv is that it's become such a staple on cable/satellite. If these restrictions are not applied across the board, it puts broadcast media even further behind the 8-ball. Alas, the FCC has no authority over satellite or cable. From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Feb 19 16:14:00 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Feb 19 16:14:08 2004 Subject: This could get messy Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040219161031.026d8920@mail.mac.com> FCC sues to shut down rfb http://www.reformer.com/Stories/0,1413,102~8860~1965359,00.html This is a surprise to me, the FCC is going to court to shut down Radio Free Brattleboro. Perhaps they think in the long run it would be easier to enforce contempt-of-court, which is what I figure this will come down to. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Feb 19 16:21:19 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Feb 19 16:21:22 2004 Subject: This could get messy In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20040219161031.026d8920@mail.mac.com> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20040219161031.026d8920@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <51244.216.204.15.170.1077225679.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> > This is a surprise to me, the FCC is going to court to shut down Radio > Free Brattleboro. Perhaps they think in the long run it would be > easier to enforce contempt-of-court, which is what I figure this will > come down to. Seems to me that rfb is gonna have a hard (not to mention expensive) time proving their case. Certainly most if not all of the legal precedent is on the government's side. Only the lawyers are gonna make out on this one. From scott@fybush.com Thu Feb 19 16:28:27 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Feb 19 16:22:49 2004 Subject: the company that runs WALE Super Max (990-AM) has filed for bankruptcy In-Reply-To: <000c01c3f708$29186710$c3ec33d1@alvin> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219162651.03584ab0@gwind.pair.com> Show of hands here... Is there ANYONE in the New England broadcast community who didn't know that there were environmental problems at that transmitter site? I remember going to visit it way back in 1993 or so and having more than one engineer ask me if I was glowing afterward! I also like how they're still claiming they plan to change the calls of 990 to "WMAX." Sorry, guys...those calls are still just as taken in Michigan as they were the first time that idea got floated. s At 11:48 AM 2/19/2004 -0500, Brian Vita wrote: >Excerpt from Providence Journal: > >PROVIDENCE -- Cumbre Communications Corp., the company that runs > Spanish-language station WALE Super Max (990-AM) has filed for > protection under Chapter 11 of the federal bankruptcy code while it > works out an arrangement to cover the cost of a possible hazardous > waste cleanup on station property. > >For the complete article: > >http://www.projo.com/news/content/projo_20040219_pradio19.23bfbf.html > >Brian T. Vita, President >Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. >77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 >Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA >+1-978-538-7575 voice >+1-978-538-7550 fax >www.cssinc.com From kvahey@tmail.com Thu Feb 19 16:38:57 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu Feb 19 16:39:13 2004 Subject: WSEX Message-ID: <1077226740.1C9B1B5A@s29.dngr.org> Back in 1985 a Chicagoland FM flipped to "love music" and was granted the calls WSEX. I am curious, did Uncle Charlie have second thoughts about those calls? From billo@shoreham.net Thu Feb 19 16:46:11 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Feb 19 16:46:22 2004 Subject: This could get messy In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20040219161031.026d8920@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <003f01c3f731$cb4809e0$0200a8c0@boneill> > This is a surprise to me, the FCC is going to court to shut > down Radio Free > Brattleboro. Perhaps they think in the long run it would be > easier to > enforce contempt-of-court, which is what I figure this will > come down to. > > > -- > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH It does make sense. If the FCC lacks teeth on its own, then it should seek the courts to help them to enforce the law. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Thu Feb 19 16:52:11 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Feb 19 16:52:18 2004 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <51189.216.204.15.170.1077225201.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <004001c3f732$a1b51310$0200a8c0@boneill> Steve writes: Much of the reason this material is > gravitating to radio & broadcast tv is that it's become such > a staple on > cable/satellite. True. I watched James Lipton's Inside the Actors Studio with Jay Leno featured. Leno tossed the F-bomb (albeit beeped) and Lipton joked back with one, with impunity. All I could think of was how low rent is that that a guy limited from the F-bomb on air TV could show off his hip-ness by tossing it on basic cable. As for the word "ass," I counted 17 uses of the word on Fox's 70s Show, all within a 10 minute segment. Bill O'Neill From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Feb 19 16:55:16 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu Feb 19 16:55:31 2004 Subject: This could get messy In-Reply-To: <51244.216.204.15.170.1077225679.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <000601c3f733$0fb48f30$c3ec33d1@alvin> While I'm not for big government, its time for the FCC to smack down the granola heads. Seize the equipment and fine everyone involved big time. Our society is made up of rules. If everyone did what they liked without regard for the rules, it would be like Congress. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of SteveOrdinetz > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:21 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: This could get messy > > > > This is a surprise to me, the FCC is going to court to shut > down Radio > > Free Brattleboro. Perhaps they think in the long run it would be > > easier to enforce contempt-of-court, which is what I > figure this will > > come down to. > > Seems to me that rfb is gonna have a hard (not to mention > expensive) time proving their case. Certainly most if not > all of the legal precedent is on the government's side. Only > the lawyers are gonna make out on this one. > > From scott@fybush.com Thu Feb 19 17:14:36 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Feb 19 17:08:53 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <000701c3f723$a9d488a0$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219171401.035fc4a0@gwind.pair.com> At 03:04 PM 2/19/2004 -0500, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >Does anyone know if 1540, 930 & 610AM in NH are simulcast all the time? Or >just certain programs? > >Thanks > >JP I think those three are 24/7 simulcast now. WTSL 1400 Lebanon NH is 23/7 simulcast with WGIR - it breaks off for one hour (9-10 AM weekdays) for local talk. s From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Feb 19 17:14:28 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Feb 19 17:14:31 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219171401.035fc4a0@gwind.pair.com> References: <000701c3f723$a9d488a0$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20040219171401.035fc4a0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <52044.216.204.15.170.1077228868.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Scott Fybush wrote: >>Does anyone know if 1540, 930 & 610AM in NH are simulcast all the time? >> Or just certain programs? > > I think those three are 24/7 simulcast now. WTSL 1400 Lebanon NH is 23/7 > simulcast with WGIR - it breaks off for one hour (9-10 AM weekdays) for > local talk. I think one of them (1540?) is a daytimer, but otherwise a complete simulcast. Interestingly, they treat the simulcast as a network and all stations (including WGIR) are affiliates with network and local breaks. From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Feb 19 17:31:23 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Feb 19 17:31:39 2004 Subject: Portsmouth, NH LPFM Gets Antenna OK Message-ID: The Portsmouth, NH LPFM station now under construction got approval from the Portsmouth potentates to stick their stick atop a local landmark. Read all about it at: http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/02192004/news/797.htm ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Feb 19 17:47:25 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Feb 19 17:47:46 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc Message-ID: >DATE: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:14:36 >From: Scott Fybush >To: Joseph Pappalardo ,interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org> >At 03:04 PM 2/19/2004 -0500, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >>Does anyone know if 1540, 930 & 610AM in NH are simulcast all the time? Or >>just certain programs? >> >>Thanks >> >>JP > >I think those three are 24/7 simulcast now. WTSL 1400 Lebanon NH is 23/7 >simulcast with WGIR - it breaks off for one hour (9-10 AM weekdays) for >local talk. > >s > Isn't AM 1540 a strict daytimer, or does it have butterfly-breath nighttime power? Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Feb 19 18:41:03 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu Feb 19 18:41:50 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc References: Message-ID: <000f01c3f741$ed03f3e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Well, 1540 in Newport RI (only a little further from WPTR than Exeter) is authorized 3W at night, BUT has just applied for 20 kW nights using a three-tower DA. 20 kW!!! The nighttime interference-free contour was calculated at 95.5 mV/m (probably higher than any other US or Canadian station), so even with 20 kW directional, WADK won't fully cover Newport at night. And there are other fascinating technical goodies in the application. WADK's existing tower is half wave. WADK proposes to detune the top half of it at night to reduce its electrical length to 90 degrees. I assume this is being done to make it easier to control high-angle radiation, which is important due to the short spacing to WPTR. That's the first instance I know of of electrically detuning PART of a tower at night only. Many stations that don't use certain towers by day or by night detune the unused towers when they are not in use, but they detune the entire tower--not just the upper half. And there are probably other stations that detune parts of towers all of the time, but I've never heard of a station detuning part of a tower part of the time. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurence Glavin To: Joseph Pappalardo ; ; Scott Fybush Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:47 PM Subject: Re: GIN, GIP, etc > >DATE: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:14:36 > >From: Scott Fybush > >To: Joseph Pappalardo ,interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.or g> > > >At 03:04 PM 2/19/2004 -0500, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > >>Does anyone know if 1540, 930 & 610AM in NH are simulcast all the time? Or > >>just certain programs? > >> > >>Thanks > >> > >>JP > > > >I think those three are 24/7 simulcast now. WTSL 1400 Lebanon NH is 23/7 > >simulcast with WGIR - it breaks off for one hour (9-10 AM weekdays) for > >local talk. > > > >s > > > Isn't AM 1540 a strict daytimer, or does it have > butterfly-breath nighttime power? > > Laurence Glavin > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 From paul@03038.com Thu Feb 19 16:27:53 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu Feb 19 18:46:40 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <000701c3f723$a9d488a0$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <002c01c3f72f$52918d20$0e87fea9@q0002> By and large, ALL programming is simulcast on 930 WGIN Rochester (The "Tanguary" of radio stations), 1540 WGIP Exeter (but only until local Sunset, 5:15PM for Feb), AND 1400 WTSL Lebanon, with 610 WGIR as flagship. (which BTW is why I'm a little surprised the Fisher Cats went with 1450 WKXL, basically unlistenable in Manchester....and yes I know 107.7 WTPL will also carry, but even for them, Manchester is the 'edge' of what for the average radio listener is considered 'listenable') PS: When the HECK is 1700 obligated to be "powered up" over there in Rochester? -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Joseph Pappalardo Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:05 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: GIN, GIP, etc Does anyone know if 1540, 930 & 610AM in NH are simulcast all the time? Or just certain programs? Thanks JP From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Feb 19 18:53:02 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Feb 19 18:53:05 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <002c01c3f72f$52918d20$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <000a01c3f743$82fe01a0$59464742@Sean> Paul writes: > (which BTW is why I'm a little surprised the Fisher Cats went > with 1450 WKXL, basically unlistenable in Manchester....and > yes I know 107.7 WTPL will also carry, but even for them, > Manchester is the 'edge' of what for the average radio > listener is considered 'listenable') WFEA will also be an affiliate on the Fisher Cats' network. From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Feb 19 18:57:41 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Feb 19 18:57:46 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <002c01c3f72f$52918d20$0e87fea9@q0002> References: <000701c3f723$a9d488a0$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> <002c01c3f72f$52918d20$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <200402192357.i1JNvf6V036246@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > PS: When the HECK is 1700 obligated to be "powered up" over there in > Rochester? Never. They received an allocation; they have no obligation to apply for it or use it. 930 is by all accounts a superior signal to what 1700 would be if built to the standard parameters. -GAWollman From RogerKola@aol.com Thu Feb 19 19:07:03 2004 From: RogerKola@aol.com (RogerKola@aol.com) Date: Thu Feb 19 19:07:23 2004 Subject: Portsmouth, NH LPFM Gets Antenna OK Message-ID: <137.2b336424.2d66a9a7@aol.com> In a message dated 02/19/04 5:36:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, lglavin@lycos.com writes: > The Portsmouth, NH LPFM station now under construction > got approval from the Portsmouth potentates to stick > their stick atop a local landmark. Read all about it at: > > http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/02192004/news/797.htm I'm impressed...reasonable NIMBY's....hard to come by... Roger WA1KAT From dwcole@comcast.net Thu Feb 19 19:24:14 2004 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Thu Feb 19 19:24:37 2004 Subject: This could get messy References: <000601c3f733$0fb48f30$c3ec33d1@alvin> Message-ID: <001e01c3f747$deadd9e0$61f29318@HP310n> > While I'm not for big government, its time for the FCC to smack down the > granola heads. Seize the equipment and fine everyone involved big time. Our > society is made up of rules. If everyone did what they liked without regard > for the rules, it would be like Congress. > > Brian T. Vita Well said! I would go as far as destroying the equipment and the building and tossing the bozo-brains behind rfb into jail. I consider them dirtbags on the equal of internet spammers. Dan Cole From hopfgapr@sprynet.com Thu Feb 19 19:29:43 2004 From: hopfgapr@sprynet.com (hopfgapr@sprynet.com) Date: Thu Feb 19 19:30:06 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc Message-ID: <5265888.1077236984269.JavaMail.root@wamui01.slb.atl.earthlink.net> OH! I was not aware of that..... -Paul -----Original Message----- From: Sean Smyth Sent: Feb 19, 2004 6:53 PM To: paul@03038.com, boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: RE: GIN, GIP, etc Paul writes: > (which BTW is why I'm a little surprised the Fisher Cats went > with 1450 WKXL, basically unlistenable in Manchester....and > yes I know 107.7 WTPL will also carry, but even for them, > Manchester is the 'edge' of what for the average radio > listener is considered 'listenable') WFEA will also be an affiliate on the Fisher Cats' network. From hopfgapr@sprynet.com Thu Feb 19 19:30:59 2004 From: hopfgapr@sprynet.com (hopfgapr@sprynet.com) Date: Thu Feb 19 19:31:04 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc Message-ID: <21634262.1077237059775.JavaMail.root@wamui01.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Can someone else apply for that freq at some point if 930 chooses not to exercise its option? -Paul Hopfgarten -----Original Message----- From: Garrett Wollman Sent: Feb 19, 2004 6:57 PM To: paul@03038.com Cc: boston-radio-interest@BostonRadio.org Subject: RE: GIN, GIP, etc < said: > PS: When the HECK is 1700 obligated to be "powered up" over there in > Rochester? Never. They received an allocation; they have no obligation to apply for it or use it. 930 is by all accounts a superior signal to what 1700 would be if built to the standard parameters. -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Feb 19 19:55:55 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Feb 19 19:56:09 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <21634262.1077237059775.JavaMail.root@wamui01.slb.atl.earthlink.net> References: <21634262.1077237059775.JavaMail.root@wamui01.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200402200055.i1K0ttQ9036698@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < Can someone else apply for that freq at some point if 930 chooses > not to exercise its option? -Paul Hopfgarten I don't know that there's any precedent. It would require a "major change window", which has either happened or been announced recently, I forget which. I don't know if the law specifies an expiration date for the original reservations or not. It ought to be possible, given some of the other ex-band precedents, to apply for a new ex-band station on any non-interfering frequency in that location -- if there were actually anyone interested in a new AM station at the high end of the dial in a region with awful ground conductivity and strong NIMBYs. Paging professor Fybush! -GAWollman From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Feb 19 21:07:49 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Feb 19 21:07:54 2004 Subject: This could get messy References: <000601c3f733$0fb48f30$c3ec33d1@alvin> <001e01c3f747$deadd9e0$61f29318@HP310n> Message-ID: <002a01c3f756$574da3e0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan C" To: Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 7:24 PM Subject: Re: This could get messy > Well said! I would go as far as destroying the equipment and the building > and tossing the bozo-brains behind rfb into jail. I consider them dirtbags > on the equal of internet spammers. Maybe their sentence could be to go to Mexico to take out the high power stations that are interfering stations in California. ;-) From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Feb 19 22:10:44 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Feb 19 22:10:49 2004 Subject: Moyer leaving PBS Message-ID: <004601c3f75f$213fa9c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Bill Moyers is leaving the PBS show Now after the election to write a book about LBJ. (Aren't there enough books on that subject?) The future of the program is unknown. David Brancaccio left a solid gig at Marketplace last summer to become co-host of the show and now may end up out of work. From scott@fybush.com Thu Feb 19 22:48:43 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Feb 19 22:43:01 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <200402200055.i1K0ttQ9036698@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <21634262.1077237059775.JavaMail.root@wamui01.slb.atl.earthlink.net> <21634262.1077237059775.JavaMail.root@wamui01.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219223438.0356eac0@gwind.pair.com> At 07:55 PM 2/19/2004 -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: >< > > Can someone else apply for that freq at some point if 930 chooses > > not to exercise its option? -Paul Hopfgarten > >I don't know that there's any precedent. It would require a "major >change window", which has either happened or been announced recently, >I forget which. I don't know if the law specifies an expiration date >for the original reservations or not. It ought to be possible, given >some of the other ex-band precedents, to apply for a new ex-band >station on any non-interfering frequency in that location -- if there >were actually anyone interested in a new AM station at the high end of >the dial in a region with awful ground conductivity and strong NIMBYs. > >Paging professor Fybush! Right here, Dr. Wollman! (Oh, wait, we won't be able to joke about that when we have the REAL Dr. Halper, will we?) The major change window was open Jan. 26-30 and reportedly produced some 1300 valid applications. BUT...it was specifically limited to 540-1600 and did not include the X-band. At the moment, there is no mechanism for applying for a new X-band signal by anyone other than: 1) The stations (like WGIN - or is it WGIP? I always forget which is which...) that were on the original list of applicants and were granted reservations on the X-band. The idea with that original window was to reduce nighttime interference on the 540-1600 spectrum as much as possible, which had the semi-paradoxical result that the bigger your original signal, the more likely you were to be granted an X-band slot. But of course, those huge signals (940 in Fresno, for instance) are the ones least likely to really want to move to the X-band. I don't know why some of them applied in the first place...maybe they thought there'd be a rules change allowing them to stay on both frequencies. 2) Anyone meeting the "Elizabeth qualifications" - an AM daytimer that's the only licensed service to a community with 100,000 or more people. It is believed that the three stations so qualified - WJDM in Elizabeth NJ, for whom the rule was created, KDIA Vallejo CA and 540 Costa Mesa CA - have already gotten their X-banders, which are not covered by the five-year sunset rule. (540 Costa Mesa has nonetheless gone dark; the X-bander it spawned on 1650 was worth much more than the 540 ever would have been, anyway.) s From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Feb 19 22:44:08 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Feb 19 22:44:18 2004 Subject: WJTO shows in Portland ratings Message-ID: <000501c3f763$cb6199a0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> I was just checking out the 12+ ratings for Portland for Fall 2003. Bob Bitner's WJTO(730) showed up in the ratings for the first time since Bob owned the station and for the first time in recent memory. Pretty impressive for a day-timer. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Feb 19 22:48:34 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Feb 19 22:48:35 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219223438.0356eac0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <000101c3f764$6a225110$59464742@Sean> Scott writes: > 2) Anyone meeting the "Elizabeth qualifications" - an AM > daytimer that's > the only licensed service to a community with 100,000 or more > people. It is > believed that the three stations so qualified - WJDM in > Elizabeth NJ, for > whom the rule was created, KDIA Vallejo CA and 540 Costa Mesa > CA - have > already gotten their X-banders, which are not covered by the > five-year > sunset rule. (540 Costa Mesa has nonetheless gone dark; the > X-bander it > spawned on 1650 was worth much more than the 540 ever would > have been, anyway.) Not that Bob would make the move (power costs, a new tower, etc.) ... But how close to the 100,000-resident cutoff did Cambridge come at the time? And where would Cambridge stand now? ISTR you and Bob having a conversation about this on LTAR. Just curious. Speaking of which ... isn't LTAR's 10th anniversary sometime this year? From scott@fybush.com Thu Feb 19 23:00:29 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Feb 19 22:54:45 2004 Subject: Moyer leaving PBS In-Reply-To: <004601c3f75f$213fa9c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219225935.0356ec08@gwind.pair.com> At 10:10 PM 2/19/2004 -0500, Dan Billings wrote: >Bill Moyers is leaving the PBS show Now after the election to write a book >about LBJ. (Aren't there enough books on that subject?) Don't forget that Moyers isn't writing about LBJ as an outsider or as a journalist; I assume this would be a personal memoir of his time as one of Johnson's top aides. s From scott@fybush.com Thu Feb 19 23:07:41 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Feb 19 23:01:57 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <000101c3f764$6a225110$59464742@Sean> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219223438.0356eac0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219230051.0361d8c0@gwind.pair.com> >Not that Bob would make the move (power costs, a new tower, etc.) ... > >But how close to the 100,000-resident cutoff did Cambridge come at the >time? And where would Cambridge stand now? ISTR you and Bob having a >conversation about this on LTAR. Bob wouldn't qualify - a station must be the ONLY licensed service to the community. WMBR, WHRB and WLVI all count against him here. Too bad - Cambridge had 101,355 people in the 2000 census! (And there's no reason a new tower would be needed for an X-band operation; I'm quite sure the existing stick would handle it easily.) If not for WZBC, WNTN would have come close: 83,829 people there in 2000. I'm pretty sure the largest communities near Boston with NO licensed broadcast services are Woburn (37,258) and Braintree (33,698). >Speaking of which ... isn't LTAR's 10th anniversary sometime this year? That sounds about right. I remember Bob floating the idea at the National Radio Club's 1994 convention up in Merrimack, N.H., so the show must have started that fall. s From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Feb 19 23:04:05 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Feb 19 23:04:10 2004 Subject: Moyer leaving PBS References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219225935.0356ec08@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <001301c3f766$9565d6b0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Dan Billings" ; "Boston Radio" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:00 PM Subject: Re: Moyer leaving PBS > Don't forget that Moyers isn't writing about LBJ as an outsider or as a > journalist; I assume this would be a personal memoir of his time as one of > Johnson's top aides. Yawn. From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Feb 19 23:08:36 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Feb 19 23:08:37 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219230051.0361d8c0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <000201c3f767$36dc8660$59464742@Sean> Scott writes: > Bob wouldn't qualify - a station must be the ONLY licensed > service to the > community. WMBR, WHRB and WLVI all count against him here. Too bad - > Cambridge had 101,355 people in the 2000 census! I thought it was the only licensed commercial radio service in a community, maybe even the only licensed AM service in a community. I thought it was population that held WJIB back for applying at the time, but my memory was apparently faulty. > If not for WZBC, WNTN would have come close: 83,829 people > there in 2000. > >Speaking of which ... isn't LTAR's 10th anniversary sometime > this year? > > That sounds about right. I remember Bob floating the idea at > the National > Radio Club's 1994 convention up in Merrimack, N.H., so the > show must have > started that fall. I remember first hearing LTAR in October of '94 and it was episode No. 6 or so ... so it's somewhere around there! From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Feb 19 23:40:18 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Feb 19 23:40:41 2004 Subject: This could get messy In-Reply-To: <000601c3f733$0fb48f30$c3ec33d1@alvin> References: <51244.216.204.15.170.1077225679.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <40354962.32686.4F178F@localhost> On 19 Feb 2004 at 16:55, Brian Vita wrote: > While I'm not for big government, its time for the FCC to smack down the > granola heads. Seize the equipment and fine everyone involved big time. > Our society is made up of rules. If everyone did what they liked without > regard for the rules, it would be like Congress. Or like big business. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Feb 20 00:00:01 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Feb 20 00:00:05 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219230051.0361d8c0@gwind.pair.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219223438.0356eac0@gwind.pair.com> <000101c3f764$6a225110$59464742@Sean> <5.1.0.14.0.20040219230051.0361d8c0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <200402200500.i1K5010V038077@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > If not for WZBC, WNTN would have come close: 83,829 people there in 2000. > I'm pretty sure the largest communities near Boston with NO licensed > broadcast services are Woburn (37,258) and Braintree (33,698). Of course, having no stations at all didn't count in the X-band sweepstakes. Quincy comes closest, but still needs another 12,000 people. Leominster would have to more than double in population. Chicopee is about halfway there, as are West Hartford and Milford, Conn. No place else in New England is remotely close. (Repeating the examination for New York is left as an exercise.) One wonders how the FCC would consider an application to move an existing daytimer into a new community solely to qualify for an ex-band application. (Does the WJDM Clause prohibit this?) -GAWollman From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Feb 20 00:03:51 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri Feb 20 00:04:02 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc References: <000f01c3f741$ed03f3e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <001001c3f76e$ef135270$6500a8c0@brianhome> How do you detune a tower? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "Laurence Glavin" Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:41 PM Subject: Re: GIN, GIP, etc > Well, 1540 in Newport RI (only a little further from WPTR than Exeter) is > authorized 3W at night, BUT has just applied for 20 kW nights using a > three-tower DA. 20 kW!!! The nighttime interference-free contour was > calculated at 95.5 mV/m (probably higher than any other US or Canadian > station), so even with 20 kW directional, WADK won't fully cover Newport at > night. And there are other fascinating technical goodies in the application. > WADK's existing tower is half wave. WADK proposes to detune the top half of > it at night to reduce its electrical length to 90 degrees. I assume this is > being done to make it easier to control high-angle radiation, which is > important due to the short spacing to WPTR. That's the first instance I know > of of electrically detuning PART of a tower at night only. Many stations > that don't use certain towers by day or by night detune the unused towers > when they are not in use, but they detune the entire tower--not just the > upper half. And there are probably other stations that detune parts of > towers all of the time, but I've never heard of a station detuning part of a > tower part of the time. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laurence Glavin > To: Joseph Pappalardo ; > ; Scott Fybush > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:47 PM > Subject: Re: GIN, GIP, etc > > > > >DATE: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:14:36 > > >From: Scott Fybush > > >To: Joseph Pappalardo > ,interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.or > g> > > > > >At 03:04 PM 2/19/2004 -0500, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > > >>Does anyone know if 1540, 930 & 610AM in NH are simulcast all the time? > Or > > >>just certain programs? > > >> > > >>Thanks > > >> > > >>JP > > > > > >I think those three are 24/7 simulcast now. WTSL 1400 Lebanon NH is 23/7 > > >simulcast with WGIR - it breaks off for one hour (9-10 AM weekdays) for > > >local talk. > > > > > >s > > > > > Isn't AM 1540 a strict daytimer, or does it have > > butterfly-breath nighttime power? > > > > Laurence Glavin > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > > > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp > ?SRC=lycos10 > From scott@fybush.com Fri Feb 20 00:18:13 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Feb 20 00:12:36 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <200402200500.i1K5010V038077@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219230051.0361d8c0@gwind.pair.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20040219223438.0356eac0@gwind.pair.com> <000101c3f764$6a225110$59464742@Sean> <5.1.0.14.0.20040219230051.0361d8c0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040220000655.0361c598@gwind.pair.com> At 12:00 AM 2/20/2004 -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: >< said: > > > If not for WZBC, WNTN would have come close: 83,829 people there in 2000. > > > I'm pretty sure the largest communities near Boston with NO licensed > > broadcast services are Woburn (37,258) and Braintree (33,698). > >Of course, having no stations at all didn't count in the X-band >sweepstakes. Quincy comes closest, but still needs another 12,000 >people. Leominster would have to more than double in population. >Chicopee is about halfway there, as are West Hartford and Milford, >Conn. No place else in New England is remotely close. (Repeating the >examination for New York is left as an exercise.) And what an interesting exercise it is - we have (at least for the moment) a station that is completely eligible under the WJDM Clause, as I understand it. Behold WUFO 1080, Amherst NY. Only station licensed to Amherst. 1000-watt daytimer. Amherst's pop? 116,510. Someone call Sheridan Broadcasting and tell them the news - but quick! There's an allocation for 92.1A in Amherst which will someday go to auction and get built. One could also make an argument for WGSM 740 Huntington, but here we get into some sticky questions of census definitions. Is WGSM licensed to the TOWN of Huntington, pop. 195,289, or to what the Census calls the "Huntington CDP," pop. only 18,403? There are other villages within the town of Huntington that have licensed stations...but I can point to other stations in New York state that are licensed to towns and not to their villages. (The old Rural Radio Network FMs licensed to "Wethersfield Township" and "South Bristol Township" come to mind; nobody in New York would call those places "townships," of course.) Likewise WLIE 540 Islip - town of Islip (322,612) or "CDP" (20,575)? If 1520 were still licensed Oyster Bay instead of Mineola, we could have the same argument there. And of course the largest community in the state - and very possibly in the entire country - with no licensed stations at all is Yonkers, with 196,086 people and diddly-squat licensed to it. s >One wonders how the FCC would consider an application to move an >existing daytimer into a new community solely to qualify for an >ex-band application. (Does the WJDM Clause prohibit this?) > >-GAWollman From kvahey@tmail.com Fri Feb 20 00:13:24 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri Feb 20 00:13:43 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <200402200500.i1K5010V038077@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219223438.0356eac0@gwind.pair.com> <200402200500.i1K5010V038077@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1077254007.FC52CE8@r31.dngr.org> Ummm are we not forgetting Somerville? WMFO is Medford so...... On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:07am, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < > said: > >> If not for WZBC, WNTN would have come close: 83,829 people there in >> 2000. > >> I'm pretty sure the largest communities near Boston with NO licensed >> broadcast services are Woburn (37,258) and Braintree (33,698). > > Of course, having no stations at all didn't count in the X-band > sweepstakes. Quincy comes closest, but still needs another 12,000 > people. Leominster would have to more than double in population. > Chicopee is about halfway there, as are West Hartford and Milford, > Conn. No place else in New England is remotely close. (Repeating the > examination for New York is left as an exercise.) > > One wonders how the FCC would consider an application to move an > existing daytimer into a new community solely to qualify for an > ex-band application. (Does the WJDM Clause prohibit this?) > > -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Feb 20 00:14:14 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Feb 20 00:14:17 2004 Subject: Reminder... In-Reply-To: <001001c3f76e$ef135270$6500a8c0@brianhome> References: <000f01c3f741$ed03f3e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <001001c3f76e$ef135270$6500a8c0@brianhome> Message-ID: <200402200514.i1K5EEWO038181@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> This is just a reminder from your friendly local moderator. I'm not picking on Brian in particular here, but you habitual offenders know who you are! When you reply to someone else's post on the list, please do not repeat DO NOT quote the entire message back at everyone on the list. Chances are, other people have finished reading that message, particularly if they are reading the archives or the digest. < said: > How do you detune a tower? [35 lines of Dan Strassberg's reply to Laurence Glavin deleted] [33 lines of Joe Pappalardo's reply to Scott Fybush deleted] [14 lines of Laurence's reply to Joe deleted] [[in that order]] Essentially, the same way you tune it, except that you do it "wrong", intentionally, so that instead of being an efficient radiator for the frequency in question, it is a very inefficient one. I used to know enough electronic physics to explain this, and I can't remember the details (or maybe it's just the hour). -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Feb 20 00:18:18 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Feb 20 00:18:22 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <1077254007.FC52CE8@r31.dngr.org> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219223438.0356eac0@gwind.pair.com> <200402200500.i1K5010V038077@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <1077254007.FC52CE8@r31.dngr.org> Message-ID: <200402200518.i1K5IILY038210@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Ummm are we not forgetting Somerville? Somerville does not currently have an AM daytimer licensed to it, and only has a population of 77,418 people, so it's doubly ineligible. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Fri Feb 20 00:27:15 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Feb 20 00:21:33 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <1077254007.FC52CE8@r31.dngr.org> References: <200402200500.i1K5010V038077@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20040219223438.0356eac0@gwind.pair.com> <200402200500.i1K5010V038077@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040220002424.036345a0@gwind.pair.com> At 05:13 AM 2/20/2004 +0000, Kevin Vahey wrote: >Ummm are we not forgetting Somerville? > >WMFO is Medford so...... Yep - 77,478 people. That's pretty sizable. Laurence might also note that the 43,788 other people who live in Methuen have no local radio service. 47,283 in Revere, 53,988 in Weymouth, 56,340 in Malden are also substantial! s >On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:07am, Garrett Wollman wrote: >>< said: >> >>> If not for WZBC, WNTN would have come close: 83,829 people there in 2000. >> >>> I'm pretty sure the largest communities near Boston with NO licensed >>> broadcast services are Woburn (37,258) and Braintree (33,698). >> >>Of course, having no stations at all didn't count in the X-band >>sweepstakes. Quincy comes closest, but still needs another 12,000 >>people. Leominster would have to more than double in population. >>Chicopee is about halfway there, as are West Hartford and Milford, >>Conn. No place else in New England is remotely close. (Repeating the >>examination for New York is left as an exercise.) >> >>One wonders how the FCC would consider an application to move an >>existing daytimer into a new community solely to qualify for an >>ex-band application. (Does the WJDM Clause prohibit this?) >> >>-GAWollman From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Feb 20 00:34:52 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Feb 20 00:34:45 2004 Subject: Moyer leaving PBS In-Reply-To: <004601c3f75f$213fa9c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040220003350.023e8e28@pop.registeredsite.com> At 10:10 PM 2/19/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Bill Moyers is leaving the PBS show Now after the election to write a book >about LBJ. (Aren't there enough books on that subject?) The future of the >program is unknown. David Brancaccio left a solid gig at Marketplace last >summer to become co-host of the show and now may end up out of work. Or he may have been brought in to keep the show alive-- Moyers, like him or hate him, is in his 70s and Brancaccio might be able to bring in the younger demos-- he has certainly shown he can do a good interview and do the kinds of reports the show is known for. From kvahey@tmail.com Fri Feb 20 00:35:06 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri Feb 20 00:35:18 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <200402200518.i1K5IILY038210@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040219223438.0356eac0@gwind.pair.com> <200402200518.i1K5IILY038210@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1077255309.C2221CE@s5.dngr.org> I understand that, was just pointing out Somerville maybe the largest population base in Mass with NO service period. And I still believe that the City of Boston maybe the largest city in the USA with NO fulltime or daytime AM xmtr within city limits. (The BZ backup doesn't count) On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:18am, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < > said: > >> Ummm are we not forgetting Somerville? > > Somerville does not currently have an AM daytimer licensed to it, and > only has a population of 77,418 people, so it's doubly ineligible. > > -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Feb 20 05:06:16 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri Feb 20 05:09:07 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc References: <000f01c3f741$ed03f3e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <001001c3f76e$ef135270$6500a8c0@brianhome> Message-ID: <007201c3f799$87805f60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Well, if you are detuning an entire series-fed AM tower that is reradiating an AM signal, simply shorting out the base insulator sometimes works adequately. If not, you need to drive into the tower at the frequency it is reradiating a signal of such phase and amplitude that the radiation goes to zero. If the tower is grounded at the base and contains a coaxial transmission line (for example, to drive an FM antenna at the top of a tower that is not part of an AM array), you may be able to insulate the shield on the transmission line from the tower everywhere except just beneath the top-mounted antenna. Then you can drive the coax line's shield with an AM signal that is out of phase with the signal that the tower is reradiating. Detuning just part of a tower that is radiating an AM signal presumably involves grounding the tower at the base and installing a Folded Unipole. (In WADK's case, this step is probably necessary anyhow to handle the high power--the existing tall tower will become the center--that is, the high-power--tower of the three tower DA and will carry about 2/3 of the 20 kW antenna-input power.) The Folded Unipole will presumably run half way up. Above it will be a second skirt-fed structure for detuning. This will be driven by a coax that runs up through the lower half of the tower. It's an interesting question whether WADK plans to just de-energize all of this extra stuff during the day or whether the engineers will try to make the current distribution in the stack-up of skirt-fed structures replicate the current distribution in the existing series-fed half-wave antenna. It is not too far fetched to think that it might be possible to use similar technology to synthesize a sectionalized Franklin-type high-efficiency AM antenna on a single, tall, grounded-base tower by using a stackup of multiple skirt-fed Folded-Unipole-type radiators. I don't think this has ever been tried, however. If it worked, tall, grounded-base FM and TV towers might become candidates to house more nondirectional AMs. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Vita To: Dan Strassberg ; Laurence Glavin Cc: Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 12:03 AM Subject: Re: GIN, GIP, etc > How do you detune a tower? From paul@03038.com Fri Feb 20 08:32:12 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri Feb 20 08:30:33 2004 Subject: A couple of Notes In-Reply-To: <5265888.1077236984269.JavaMail.root@wamui01.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00a601c3f7b5$faebbb40$0e87fea9@q0002> I don't know if this is typical, but CKOC (Oldies 1150-Hamilton ON CA) was doing considerable battle with WTTT (1150 Boston) after sunrise (7:45 AM or so)this morning in Derry NH. Should I assume that either A) CKOC went day power early, or B) it's nighttime signal points east and it was not yet Hamilton Ontario sunrise, or C) another reason? Also, Thurs AM I was leaving work in Contoocook NH at 8AM and under WRKO was some 680 with CBS TOH News. It only lasted the first 3-5 miles South on I-89 before 'RKO killed it completely. Now usually, CFTR is the only interfering station on 680, and that interference does not occur every night, but only seems to occur at night when it does happen. Does CFTR carry CBS News? Does the 680 in Baltimore (WCBM?) which I have never been able to confirm as a pick-up on 680...do they carry CBS TOH Headlines? In fact, Contoocook seems to be the Southeastern end of the Toronto battleground with both CFTR-680 and CFRB-1010 begining to play havoc with WRKO, and as you might expect, moreso with 1010WINS. Inquiring minds want to know..... -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH Seriously in need of daytime employment! From BriMatt1@aol.com Fri Feb 20 09:24:04 2004 From: BriMatt1@aol.com (BriMatt1@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 20 09:24:51 2004 Subject: the company that runs WALE Super Max (990-AM) has filed for bankruptcy Message-ID: <173D3588.1A4F64D2.006FD67C@aol.com> Having worked there in '84-'85, I know that there were PCB's in the transformers and some capacitors on the site. At the time, there were two old RCA transmitters in the building; one was an Ampliphase BTA-50G whose high voltage transformers were physically outside the building and filled with oil. Also, prior to my arrival, the station management wanted to experiment with a chemical (agent orange? :-) to keep the land cleared around the six towers. Based on the growth, though, I don't think that they ever used much of it. I did a site inspection for a potential buyer approximtely two years ago...this story doesn't surprise me...the site was deplorable. I may still have some site pix if anyone is interested. John Kennedy From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Feb 20 09:32:43 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri Feb 20 09:32:47 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio Message-ID: <005a01c3f7be$6749e9d0$6500a8c0@brianhome> "Radio stations used to be local and diverse. Deejays programmed their own shows and developed close relationships with artists. Today radio stations are centrally programmed by their corporate owners, and airplay is essentially bought rather than earned." - Eagles frontman DON HENLEY in the op-ed page of the Washington Post From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Fri Feb 20 10:25:12 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Feb 20 10:25:21 2004 Subject: A couple of Notes In-Reply-To: <00a601c3f7b5$faebbb40$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <20040220152512.1920.qmail@web60810.mail.yahoo.com> --- Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > I don't know if this is typical, but CKOC (Oldies > 1150-Hamilton ON CA) was > doing considerable battle with WTTT (1150 Boston) > after sunrise I've picked up CKOC, too (at night on Rt. 128). Can't remember if WTTT was off for some reason or at lower power than usual. > Also, Thurs AM I was leaving work in Contoocook NH > at 8AM and under WRKO was > some 680 with CBS TOH News. Possibly WPTF in Raleigh, NC. They're news/talk. Maybe WCBM (the 680 in Baltimore), which you thought it may have been. By the way on Monday night I was on I-93 north in Somerville and was surprised to pick up KDKA 1020 out of Pittsburgh, with only some splatter from WBZ. From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Fri Feb 20 10:28:40 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Feb 20 10:28:54 2004 Subject: late night talkers Message-ID: <20040220152840.93885.qmail@web60801.mail.yahoo.com> When I drive home from my job at about 2:30 am, I sometimes scan the AM dial to find a talk show. In Boston we actually do have a live and local show during the overnight, WBZ's Steve Leveille (and Jordan Rich on weekends). Most stations do Coast To Coast (George Noory weeknights, Art Bell weekend nights); re-runs of shows like Rush Limbaugh, or shows like John and Jeff (out of KSLX in L.A.). And I think Jim Bohannon is still on but not in Boston, IIRC. Are there any other talk shows of note? I have gotten tapes of Rollye James from WHLO in Akron, OH (though she originates from WPHT in Philly). She does trivia on Fri nights and I believe her guest tonite (at 10 pm Eastern) is Dr. Demento! From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Fri Feb 20 10:31:50 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Feb 20 10:31:58 2004 Subject: late night talkers Message-ID: <20040220153150.54501.qmail@web60805.mail.yahoo.com> >>are there any other talk shows of note I mean LATE NIGHT, graveyard shift shows of course! From tmw207@adelphia.net Fri Feb 20 10:40:18 2004 From: tmw207@adelphia.net (Terry Wood) Date: Fri Feb 20 10:40:28 2004 Subject: (no subject) References: <002101c3f725$52655890$0200a8c0@boneill> <51189.216.204.15.170.1077225201.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <001201c3f7c7$d8511190$6501a8c0@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Well, maybe it should have controll over the cable industry, me, I'm all for putting all the regulatory powers back on those that were taken away! ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:13 PM Subject: Re: (no subject) > > The NY Post reports on the Mel Karmizan concall with affils on his so > > called edict to clean it up on Infinity's 180 stations. > > http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/18294.htm > > > > Don & Mike Show (WXZO 96.7 Willsboro/Burlington) dedicating the opener > > of their show (they still have that medium market sound down real well) > > are complaining about their new limits on things excretory. Their > > complaint is "We're a show for guys, on a network for guys. What are we > > for, soccer moms?" Should be interesting to see how Howard Stern > > handles the so-called new limits on return from vacation next week. Don > > & Mike had been bounced without pay for a couple of weeks for one of the > > naughty seven getting through. > > They have a good point. Their show is essentially 4 hr of non-sports "guy > talk"...yeah there may be some references to taking a whiz or something, > but it's more in the context of general conversation than the focus of the > discussion. > > Stern ought to be interesting...take away the overt sexual references, > lesbians, etc. and what's left? I thought that Stern's contract > specifically gives him total freedom as long as he doesn't use the > infamous 7 words. > > While content limits are long overdue, I don't think it's fair to solely > pick on the broadcast industry. Much of the reason this material is > gravitating to radio & broadcast tv is that it's become such a staple on > cable/satellite. If these restrictions are not applied across the board, > it puts broadcast media even further behind the 8-ball. Alas, the FCC has > no authority over satellite or cable. > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Feb 20 11:24:02 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri Feb 20 11:25:03 2004 Subject: A couple of Notes References: <00a601c3f7b5$faebbb40$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <006d01c3f7ce$153dc840$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Can't answer any of your questions and I don't know where Contoocook is, but hearing WTTT in New Hampshire, especially if Contoocook is north of Nashua--which I assume it must be--seems to me to be a good catch. 7:45 AM isn't nighttime, though; had it been night, I'd call it an exceptional catch; WTTT's night pattern is quite restrictive to the north. As for CFTR/WRKO and CFRB/WINS, you can't conclude much about 680 from listening to 1010 or vice versa. CFRB's transmitter is southwest of Toronto near the north shore of Lake Ontraio. Both of CFRB's patterns send a lot of energy to the east-northeast not too far north of Boston. CFTR's site (as well as 590's and 640's) is on the south shore of Lake Ontario, just a little west of due south of Toronto. The stations in that location have very restrictive patterns (eight or nine towers each) that send almost all the signal north across the lake to the metro area. These stations have deep nulls over a wide arc to the east. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Hopfgarten To: ; 'Sean Smyth' ; Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:32 AM Subject: A couple of Notes > I don't know if this is typical, but CKOC (Oldies 1150-Hamilton ON CA) was > doing considerable battle with WTTT (1150 Boston) after sunrise (7:45 AM or > so)this morning in Derry NH. Should I assume that either A) CKOC went day > power early, or B) it's nighttime signal points east and it was not yet > Hamilton Ontario sunrise, or C) another reason? > > Also, Thurs AM I was leaving work in Contoocook NH at 8AM and under WRKO was > some 680 with CBS TOH News. It only lasted the first 3-5 miles South on I-89 > before 'RKO killed it completely. > > Now usually, CFTR is the only interfering station on 680, and that > interference does not occur every night, but only seems to occur at night > when it does happen. Does CFTR carry CBS News? Does the 680 in Baltimore > (WCBM?) which I have never been able to confirm as a pick-up on 680...do > they carry CBS TOH Headlines? > > In fact, Contoocook seems to be the Southeastern end of the Toronto > battleground with both CFTR-680 and CFRB-1010 begining to play havoc with > WRKO, and as you might expect, moreso with 1010WINS. > > Inquiring minds want to know..... > > -Paul Hopfgarten > -East Derry NH > > Seriously in need of daytime employment! > > > From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Feb 20 12:18:46 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Feb 20 12:18:51 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: <005a01c3f7be$6749e9d0$6500a8c0@brianhome> References: <005a01c3f7be$6749e9d0$6500a8c0@brianhome> Message-ID: <59834.216.204.15.170.1077297526.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> > "Radio stations used to be local and diverse. Deejays programmed their > own shows and developed close relationships with artists. Today radio > stations are centrally programmed by their corporate owners, and airplay > is essentially bought rather than earned." > - Eagles frontman DON HENLEY in the op-ed page of the Washington Post What planet has he been on for the past 30+ years? DJs haven't programmed their own music since the 60s. Do you think Bruce Bradley played what he felt like on WBZ in their Top 40 days? Just another celebrity pontificating on a subject he clearly know very little about. From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Feb 20 12:20:49 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Feb 20 12:20:53 2004 Subject: A couple of Notes In-Reply-To: <006d01c3f7ce$153dc840$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <00a601c3f7b5$faebbb40$0e87fea9@q0002> <006d01c3f7ce$153dc840$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <59841.216.204.15.170.1077297649.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> > Can't answer any of your questions and I don't know where Contoocook is, > but hearing WTTT in New Hampshire, especially if Contoocook is north of > Nashua--which I assume it must be--seems to me to be a good catch. In that case it is a very good catch. Contoocook is maybe 10 mi. NW of Concord just off I-89. From fordear@hotmail.com Fri Feb 20 05:31:43 2004 From: fordear@hotmail.com (phil) Date: Fri Feb 20 12:29:59 2004 Subject: A drug that performs like V-ia-gra for 36 hours! Message-ID: <1077273103-15843@excite.com> "Wow, I was such a skeptic but just a few weeks on Maxaman and my partner = is wanting to make love every night. Best of all it is all natural!" http://drlaurent.com/mm/index.php?pid=eph9106 bbbbbb eunlim gewanter rupp yamamoto wvahle kadhi magee alexandr matthew dragons Porsche genevieve ramaswamy itbhines bagri georgio Amanda bolstrom terri parsifal herby chyr uugozzy france Get off this list by writing to getmeoff731@mail.com From ssmyth@psu.edu Fri Feb 20 12:34:57 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri Feb 20 12:35:15 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: <59834.216.204.15.170.1077297526.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <000001c3f7d7$e1c10ae0$59464742@Sean> Steve O. writes: > > "Radio stations used to be local and diverse. Deejays > programmed their > > own shows and developed close relationships with artists. > Today radio > > stations are centrally programmed by their corporate owners, and > > airplay is essentially bought rather than earned." > > - Eagles frontman DON HENLEY in the op-ed page of the > Washington Post > > What planet has he been on for the past 30+ years? DJs > haven't programmed their own music since the 60s. Do you > think Bruce Bradley played what he felt like on WBZ in their > Top 40 days? > > Just another celebrity pontificating on a subject he clearly > know very little about. Exactly. I reckon airplay for Mr. Henley's group and solo albums has been "essentially bought" over the years, as well. From billo@shoreham.net Fri Feb 20 13:04:49 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Feb 20 13:05:19 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: <000001c3f7d7$e1c10ae0$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <000501c3f7dc$089da200$0200a8c0@boneill> > Exactly. I reckon airplay for Mr. Henley's group and solo albums has > been "essentially bought" over the years, as well. I think that Henley's remarks reflect a toss-up between either pure hypocracy or utter ignorance of the business from which he has reaped much. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Fri Feb 20 15:18:56 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Feb 20 15:19:03 2004 Subject: Protest music? Message-ID: <001c01c3f7ee$c5082bb0$0200a8c0@boneill> Don (they've got that medium market sound down real well) & Mike are playing AC & disco, taking turns with outdated puke-y talkups, jingles, apologizing for any lyrics that may be offensive, etc. They stunted like this a couple of years ago when they were yanking for a new syndication contract. Bill O'Neill From paul@03038.com Fri Feb 20 16:22:31 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri Feb 20 16:31:05 2004 Subject: A couple of Notes In-Reply-To: <20040220152512.1920.qmail@web60810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007501c3f7f9$27165c00$0e87fea9@q0002> Actually, on the same night, I think KDKA was actually coming in better than WBZ here in So-Central NH as I was going to work. WRKO (because of the location of their towers I would assume) usually is the strongest Boston signal on the Derry-Contoocook ride, with 'BZ second. BTW: Whomever was reponsible for "local cut-ins" during the Bruins game Thursday Night on 107.7 WTPL Hillsborough was "asleep at the switch" because the WBZ local ads and IDs were all being carried on 'TPL during the 3rd period and post game, and the switch to ESPN Game Night after the Bruins Network signed off consisted of about 1 minute of dead air without ANY local ID, then right into ESPN. -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:25 AM To: paul@03038.com; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: A couple of Notes By the way on Monday night I was on I-93 north in Somerville and was surprised to pick up KDKA 1020 out of Pittsburgh, with only some splatter from WBZ. From paul@03038.com Fri Feb 20 16:32:25 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri Feb 20 16:31:21 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: <59834.216.204.15.170.1077297526.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <007c01c3f7f9$308bede0$0e87fea9@q0002> Also, how many radio stations does HE own? I'm sure he has enough scratch to buy a few and "practice what he preaches" and let those DJ's do their ouwn thing! -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- > "Radio stations used to be local and diverse. Deejays programmed their > own shows and developed close relationships with artists. Today radio > stations are centrally programmed by their corporate owners, and airplay > is essentially bought rather than earned." > - Eagles frontman DON HENLEY in the op-ed page of the Washington Post What planet has he been on for the past 30+ years? DJs haven't programmed their own music since the 60s. Do you think Bruce Bradley played what he felt like on WBZ in their Top 40 days? Just another celebrity pontificating on a subject he clearly know very little about. From paul@03038.com Fri Feb 20 16:28:28 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri Feb 20 16:31:32 2004 Subject: A couple of Notes In-Reply-To: <006d01c3f7ce$153dc840$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <007b01c3f7f9$2ce18380$0e87fea9@q0002> Actually, the WTTT-CKOC issue was in Derry (about 40 air miles due North from the Pru), and I guess the CFTR catch on those occasions that I have caught it are pretty good if they null to the east. Contoocook is a neighborhood of Hopkinton NH, about 10 miles due west of Concord NH. -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: Dan Strassberg [mailto:dan.strassberg@att.net] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:24 AM To: paul@03038.com; Paul Hopfgarten; 'Sean Smyth'; Boston Radio Interest Subject: Re: A couple of Notes Can't answer any of your questions and I don't know where Contoocook is, but hearing WTTT in New Hampshire, especially if Contoocook is north of Nashua--which I assume it must be--seems to me to be a good catch. 7:45 AM isn't nighttime, though; had it been night, I'd call it an exceptional catch; WTTT's night pattern is quite restrictive to the north. As for CFTR/WRKO and CFRB/WINS, you can't conclude much about 680 from listening to 1010 or vice versa. CFRB's transmitter is southwest of Toronto near the north shore of Lake Ontraio. Both of CFRB's patterns send a lot of energy to the east-northeast not too far north of Boston. CFTR's site (as well as 590's and 640's) is on the south shore of Lake Ontario, just a little west of due south of Toronto. The stations in that location have very restrictive patterns (eight or nine towers each) that send almost all the signal north across the lake to the metro area. These stations have deep nulls over a wide arc to the east. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Hopfgarten To: ; 'Sean Smyth' ; Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:32 AM Subject: A couple of Notes > I don't know if this is typical, but CKOC (Oldies 1150-Hamilton ON CA) was > doing considerable battle with WTTT (1150 Boston) after sunrise (7:45 AM or > so)this morning in Derry NH. Should I assume that either A) CKOC went day > power early, or B) it's nighttime signal points east and it was not yet > Hamilton Ontario sunrise, or C) another reason? > > Also, Thurs AM I was leaving work in Contoocook NH at 8AM and under WRKO was > some 680 with CBS TOH News. It only lasted the first 3-5 miles South on I-89 > before 'RKO killed it completely. > > Now usually, CFTR is the only interfering station on 680, and that > interference does not occur every night, but only seems to occur at night > when it does happen. Does CFTR carry CBS News? Does the 680 in Baltimore > (WCBM?) which I have never been able to confirm as a pick-up on 680...do > they carry CBS TOH Headlines? > > In fact, Contoocook seems to be the Southeastern end of the Toronto > battleground with both CFTR-680 and CFRB-1010 begining to play havoc with > WRKO, and as you might expect, moreso with 1010WINS. > > Inquiring minds want to know..... > > -Paul Hopfgarten > -East Derry NH > > Seriously in need of daytime employment! > > > From ssmyth@psu.edu Fri Feb 20 16:50:53 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri Feb 20 16:50:54 2004 Subject: The history of NESN Message-ID: <000101c3f7fb$9ccdc990$59464742@Sean> I know it signed on in 1984. What was the impetus for the Sox, Bruins and Channel 38 forming their own sports net as opposed to joining in with Prism/SportsChannel? Money, presumably, but anything else? Any other info anyone (Kevin is the best bet, I'm guessing) can give me relative to the channel's launch? From mixer@zoso.net Fri Feb 20 17:01:58 2004 From: mixer@zoso.net (Jeremy Mixer) Date: Fri Feb 20 16:55:03 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: <007c01c3f7f9$308bede0$0e87fea9@q0002> References: <007c01c3f7f9$308bede0$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > > "Radio stations used to be local and diverse. Deejays programmed their > > own shows and developed close relationships with artists. Today radio > > stations are centrally programmed by their corporate owners, and airplay > > is essentially bought rather than earned." > > - Eagles frontman DON HENLEY in the op-ed page of the Washington Post > > What planet has he been on for the past 30+ years? DJs haven't programmed > their own music since the 60s. Do you think Bruce Bradley played what he > felt like on WBZ in their Top 40 days? I have to stand up here in Henley's defense........even in the early 90's, of course depoending on the station and the format, but just since then radio has become much more corperately run with the "DJ's" having less and less control. Does anyone remember WCDQ out of Sanford? How about WTOS before they were sold to Cumulus and then to Clear Channel? Sure, they all had their guidelines to go by, and some music that just would not fit on the station, but the DJ's then had a LOT more freedom to play what they wanted rather than they do now. I'm proud to also say that I work at a station which, while we have our guidelines, there's no one looking over our shoulder and making us play every song on the log. I play people's requests, modify the playlist where I feel it is not going with the flow of my show (while keeping with the station's sound) and get paid hourly to do three overnights a week. I also know that this in itself is a complete rarity in the industry these days, which is wehy I've stayed in the wasteland of Bangor for waaay longer than I ever intended to :) (no offense to anyone from bangor- I'm a southern Maine guy at heart!) It's right along the lines of Tom Petty's album "The Last DJ" which not only has theme of being anti-corperate radio, but just anti-corperation in general. Sure, I'm young (25) and you can tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about, but I've talked to enough [people that have worked in the radio industry for years who would abck me up here. Jeremy Bangor, Maine From paul@03038.com Fri Feb 20 17:05:28 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri Feb 20 17:03:37 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000101c3f7fd$ad118920$0e87fea9@q0002> Just an FYI to all....what is attributed to me below the "original message" line is not FROM me... My comments refered to asking if Henley owned any Radio Stations, and if so does he allow the "artistic license" for his properties that he complains about in others....and if he owns none, and with his (presumed I admit) $$ resources why doesn't he buy a few.... -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Jeremy Mixer Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 5:02 PM To: Paul Hopfgarten Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: RE: Don Henley on radio On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > > "Radio stations used to be local and diverse. Deejays programmed their > > own shows and developed close relationships with artists. Today radio > > stations are centrally programmed by their corporate owners, and airplay > > is essentially bought rather than earned." > > - Eagles frontman DON HENLEY in the op-ed page of the Washington Post > > What planet has he been on for the past 30+ years? DJs haven't programmed > their own music since the 60s. Do you think Bruce Bradley played what he > felt like on WBZ in their Top 40 days? I have to stand up here in Henley's defense........ Jeremy Bangor, Maine From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Feb 20 17:05:19 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Feb 20 17:05:36 2004 Subject: CBS4 Replaces WBZ on Comcast Cable Message-ID: Until recently, if you were a victim, I mean customer of Comcast Cable and tuned to cable channel 4, "WBZ" would appear in one corner of the picture briefly. (Same thing for other broadcast outlets...tune to channel 2 and "WGBH" would appear...tune to channel 16 and "WGBX" would appear.) Now today (02/20) I noticed that when you tune to channel 4, "CBS4" appears in a corner of the picture (other broadcast TV's still show their call letters). I don't know if this is happening at other Cable providers, but it must have come about through the intercession of the folks at 1170 SFR. Thus the de-WBZ-TVization of local television continues apace. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From radiotony@comcast.net Fri Feb 20 17:19:17 2004 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Fri Feb 20 17:19:24 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio References: <000101c3f7fd$ad118920$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <010601c3f7ff$9498aa20$6400a8c0@tony> Henley's piece was in the Manchester Union Leader last week and I thought it was pretty impressive. Sure, it is kinda crybaby-ish in the sense that Henley's music has helped to destroy the quality of radio, IMHO, as stations became categorized into very specific formats. And, yeah, most radio stations have used playlists for a long time. But he is from southern California so he is probably used to a different type of radio. Weren't there a whole slew of big FM stations in southern California that had diverse playlists and DJ control like some of New England's small freefrom radio stations? Stuff like Wolfman Jack? I always hear stories about these stations. Didn't Little Steven right a book called "FM" about the good ole' days of FM rock radio? Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net http://politizine.blogspot.com From DonKelley@aol.com Fri Feb 20 17:33:01 2004 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 20 17:33:50 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio Message-ID: <7456561A.6353E233.0238A7FB@aol.com> The earlier posts are correct. DJ's choosing their own music went away with the payola scandal of 1960. Stations doing call-out and auditorium testing became the norm in the early 80's, and playlists reflected what listeners really wanted to hear. Almost without exception the stations that executed this best are the ones that were most successful. The DJ...known these days as the Air Talent...is not hired for his or her ability to choose songs. The ability to perform on the air is the criteria. When a hire is made it's a casting decision. It's no different in television or movies. The actor does not decide who lives or dies and who gets the girl at the end. The actor performs the lines and breathes life into them. A great radio Air Talent does the same thing with liners. What Henley just doesn't get is that corporations do not dictate playlists. Certainly not in major markets. Stations go to great pains to put together their own playlists with the aim of playing what their own listeners want to hear. True, labels can hype an artist onto the charts (Clay Aiken being a great example) but the listeners are the ones who ultimately decide what gets played. When an artist isn't getting airplay it's usually due to a lack of listener votes...either for the artist or for the stations where they do get airplay. Don Henley's album "Inside Job" got little airplay. This was not due to any corporate conspiracy, it was because the album wasn't that good. From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Feb 20 17:57:31 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Feb 20 17:57:28 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: <7456561A.6353E233.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040220175622.0274baa0@pop.registeredsite.com> At 05:33 PM 2/20/2004 -0500, Don wrote: >The earlier posts are correct. DJ's choosing their own music went away >with the payola scandal of 1960. Maybe in top 40, but I was on the air in album rock in the 70s, and we still chose much of our own music till about 1975 or 76. That's when Lee Abrams and other consultant types decided to restrict even the album rock playlist. From paul@03038.com Fri Feb 20 19:26:48 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri Feb 20 19:25:14 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: <7456561A.6353E233.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <002301c3f811$6ab9cd80$0e87fea9@q0002> BTW: I did one of those "auditorium tests" for WGIR-FM (Rock 101) Manchester NH about 10 years ago... (And ironically, that's probably the last time I listened to Rock 101 for any more than 5-10 minutes at a time...execpt when they cover NE Patriots games early season when AM610 is still doing SOX games) -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of DonKelley@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 5:33 PM To: mixer@zoso.net; paul@03038.com Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Don Henley on radio The earlier posts are correct. DJ's choosing their own music went away with the payola scandal of 1960. Stations doing call-out and auditorium testing became the norm in the early 80's, and playlists reflected what listeners really wanted to hear. Almost without exception the stations that executed this best are the ones that were most successful. The DJ...known these days as the Air Talent...is not hired for his or her ability to choose songs. The ability to perform on the air is the criteria. When a hire is made it's a casting decision. It's no different in television or movies. The actor does not decide who lives or dies and who gets the girl at the end. The actor performs the lines and breathes life into them. A great radio Air Talent does the same thing with liners. What Henley just doesn't get is that corporations do not dictate playlists. Certainly not in major markets. Stations go to great pains to put together their own playlists with the aim of playing what their own listeners want to hear. True, labels can hype an artist onto the charts (Clay Aiken being a great example) but the listeners are the ones who ultimately decide what gets played. When an artist isn't getting airplay it's usually due to a lack of listener votes...either for the artist or for the stations where they do get airplay. Don Henley's album "Inside Job" got little airplay. This was not due to any corporate conspiracy, it was because the album wasn't that good. From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Feb 20 20:02:14 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Feb 20 20:00:41 2004 Subject: A couple of Notes In-Reply-To: <007501c3f7f9$27165c00$0e87fea9@q0002> References: <20040220152512.1920.qmail@web60810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040220200023.00a730b0@pop3.bit-net.com> Paul Hopfgarten wrote: >BTW: Whomever was reponsible for "local cut-ins" during the Bruins game >Thursday Night on 107.7 WTPL Hillsborough was "asleep at the switch" because >the WBZ local ads and IDs were all being carried on 'TPL during the 3rd >period and post game, and the switch to ESPN Game Night after the Bruins >Network signed off consisted of about 1 minute of dead air without ANY local >ID, then right into ESPN. Bruins games are automated on WTPL. WBZ is a bit sloppy about sending the correct tones for breaks & legal ID. I've had the PD record games for me & we've looked at audio for mis-fired events in CoolEdit...every time the automation did exactly what the network told it to do. We've had similar problems with WRKO and the Sox, though they were much better last year. From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Feb 20 20:07:35 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Feb 20 20:06:01 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: <010601c3f7ff$9498aa20$6400a8c0@tony> References: <000101c3f7fd$ad118920$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040220200549.009f82c0@pop3.bit-net.com> tony schinella wrote: > Didn't Little >Steven right a book called "FM" about the good >ole' days of FM rock radio? Dunno about Little Steven, but Richard Neer wrote a book with that title...focused mostly on his career at WNEW-FM, but spotlighted other early AOR stations too. From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Feb 20 20:13:53 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Feb 20 20:12:18 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040220175622.0274baa0@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <7456561A.6353E233.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040220201000.00a610e0@pop3.bit-net.com> Donna Halper wrote: >At 05:33 PM 2/20/2004 -0500, Don wrote: >>The earlier posts are correct. DJ's choosing their own music went away >>with the payola scandal of 1960. > >Maybe in top 40, but I was on the air in album rock in the 70s, and we >still chose much of our own music till about 1975 or 76. That's when Lee >Abrams and other consultant types decided to restrict even the album rock >playlist. Still, we're talking almost 30 years. Free-form radio was, alas, jocks programming more for themselves than for the audience. Some "got it" and played the hits, many others didn't and just put on a bunch of obscure stuff that they liked, and segued well. From iapple@erols.com Fri Feb 20 20:25:36 2004 From: iapple@erols.com (Ira Apple) Date: Fri Feb 20 20:29:38 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio References: <7456561A.6353E233.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <008201c3f819$9c8d90a0$67833744@owngsm01.md.comcast.net> Don is correct about how music was chosen after the hearings on payola. Though I don't know how other companies did it, at Group W - KDKA, WBZ et.al - music committees were formed that would review all the records that came in during the week. Those on the committee were most often the PD, the Music Director, the Assistant PD, Executive Producer. We would also rotate DJ's who took part so everyone got involved. Of course the purpose was to be sure selections were not made by just one person. Actually, those meetings were a lot of fun and something to look forward to. Lots of debates, and arguments that were usually good natured but most of all the meetings were a great learning experience. The PD might exert a little muscle now and then but for the most part it was like being on a jury. There was another committee formed that you may never heard of, but I was also a member of what we called the "Loudness Committee". That sounds like a joke now and to some extent it was then. The purpose was to listen to commercials that came in from agencies to be sure they were not overmodulated to the point they were they came through much louder than regular program content. (There was some speculation in those days that producers deliberately made the commercials louder. It is hard to imagine they would do such a thing.) We were fussy in those days. In retrospect I think we did it the right way. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Cc: Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: Re: Don Henley on radio > The earlier posts are correct. DJ's choosing their own music went away with the payola scandal of 1960. > > Stations doing call-out and auditorium testing became the norm in the early 80's, and playlists reflected what listeners really wanted to hear. Almost without exception the stations that executed this best are the ones that were most successful. > > The DJ...known these days as the Air Talent...is not hired for his or her ability to choose songs. The ability to perform on the air is the criteria. When a hire is made it's a casting decision. > > It's no different in television or movies. The actor does not decide who lives or dies and who gets the girl at the end. The actor performs the lines and breathes life into them. A great radio Air Talent does the same thing with liners. > > What Henley just doesn't get is that corporations do not dictate playlists. Certainly not in major markets. Stations go to great pains to put together their own playlists with the aim of playing what their own listeners want to hear. True, labels can hype an artist onto the charts (Clay Aiken being a great example) but the listeners are the ones who ultimately decide what gets played. > > When an artist isn't getting airplay it's usually due to a lack of listener votes...either for the artist or for the stations where they do get airplay. > > Don Henley's album "Inside Job" got little airplay. This was not due to any corporate conspiracy, it was because the album wasn't that good. From paulranderson@charter.net Fri Feb 20 21:08:50 2004 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Fri Feb 20 21:09:12 2004 Subject: CBS4 Replaces WBZ on Comcast Cable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Feb 20, 2004, at 5:05 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Until recently, if you were a victim, I mean customer of Comcast Cable > and tuned to cable channel 4, "WBZ" would appear in one corner of the > picture briefly. : > Now today (02/20) I noticed that when you tune to channel 4, "CBS4" > appears in a corner of the picture (other broadcast TV's still show > their call letters). I don't know if this is happening at other Cable > providers, but it must have come about through the intercession of the > folks at 1170 SFR. Thankfully, my digital Charter cable identification remains at WBZ. That means WSBK remains the only station not identified by their call letters (it annoyingly says "UPN38"). Paul From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Feb 20 22:43:06 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri Feb 20 22:33:26 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: <59834.216.204.15.170.1077297526.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: On 2/20/04 12:18 PM, "SteveOrdinetz" wrote: > What planet has he been on for the past 30+ years? DJs haven't programmed > their own music since the 60s. Many "FM underground" AOR DJ's still picked some of their own music through the early to mid 70's or so. There was also that little AM oldies station in Manchester in 1990 where, among the few hundred oldies that were there, we both got to play our picks within categories, no playlists. Too bad that incarnation of the station had to die, it was fun... >From the tribute site: http://www.manfrommars.com/wkbr.html "While the station experienced hard times during the 80s and 90s, many talented people graced its airwaves including: David Alan Boucher, J. Christopher Scott, Vince Tyler, Jay Cormier, Rick DeFabio, Tim Riley, Dennis Burke, Holland Cooke, Charlie Moger, Gary Duncan, Ed Doherty, John Frawley, Matt Stevens, Carol Ann Pretzel, Daniel T. Guy, Kevin Farwell, Bill Sterndale, Earle Greer, Ernie Jenkins, Eve Meredith, Scott Pare, Roger Parmelee, Bob Stuart, Alan Dary, Jonathon Hall, John Sutton, Steve Ordinetz and Eric Parker..." My oldies DJ then-pseudonym, last and perhaps least. I was amazed to even see it there, considering I was only part-time evenings for the last four months of it's existence as a live station. Eli Polonsky From scott@fybush.com Fri Feb 20 22:58:53 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Feb 20 22:53:13 2004 Subject: WBZ is off the air Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040220225725.036a5bd0@gwind.pair.com> Leave it to the guy in Rochester to post this...but (thanks to a tip on the NRC DXTIP list) WBZ has been off the air since at least 10:46 PM. Not hearing anything in its place here in Rochester, nor is Garrett in Framingham...but maybe someone more distant will have some luck. (And what the heck is a station with two separate transmitter sites, both with generator power, doing off the air anyway?) s From scott@fybush.com Fri Feb 20 23:11:27 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Feb 20 23:05:44 2004 Subject: WBZ is off the air In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040220225725.036a5bd0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040220231042.0369dfc8@gwind.pair.com> They made it back on at 11:03, mid-commercial, with Mark Cohen accidentally on-mic through the end of the commercial, then into a legal ID, then into the news just as though it were the top of the hour. Wonder what happened? s At 10:58 PM 2/20/2004 -0500, Scott Fybush wrote: >Leave it to the guy in Rochester to post this...but (thanks to a tip on >the NRC DXTIP list) WBZ has been off the air since at least 10:46 PM. Not >hearing anything in its place here in Rochester, nor is Garrett in >Framingham...but maybe someone more distant will have some luck. > >(And what the heck is a station with two separate transmitter sites, both >with generator power, doing off the air anyway?) > >s > From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Feb 21 01:10:49 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Feb 21 01:10:50 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040220000655.0361c598@gwind.pair.com> References: <200402200500.i1K5010V038077@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4036B019.13018.65BC60@localhost> On 20 Feb 2004 at 0:18, Scott Fybush wrote: > Behold WUFO 1080, Amherst NY. Only station licensed to Amherst. 1000-watt > daytimer. Amherst's pop? 116,510. Well, I can think of a good format for a station with those call letters, though I don't know that it would be commercially viable: 24-hours of flying saucers, alien abductions, etc. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sat Feb 21 12:10:36 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sat Feb 21 12:10:47 2004 Subject: GIN, GIP, etc In-Reply-To: <000701c3f723$a9d488a0$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <20040221171036.95679.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> --- Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > Does anyone know if 1540, 930 & 610AM in NH are simulcast all the time? > Or > just certain programs? > > Thanks > > JP Simulcasts are nearly 100%. The breaks are different (localized) and the Patriots were not simulcast on the seacoast stations. The Patriots started out on WGIR-FM, and not the AM side. When the Red Sox season ended they went exclusively to WGIR on AM. John East Derry ===== Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Feb 21 12:29:22 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Feb 21 12:29:41 2004 Subject: WBZ is off the air Message-ID: >DATE: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:11:27 >From: Scott Fybush >To: bri@bostonradio.org >They made it back on at 11:03, mid-commercial, with >Mark Cohen accidentally >on-mic through the end of the commercial, then into a >legal ID, then into >the news just as though it were the top of the hour. > >Wonder what happened On rare occasions, when skywaves are really flying, I've turned my most sensitive radio (the one I use to listen to LTAR) "sideways" to Hull, and I've noticed the merest glimmer of something else on 1030, and I've been led to believe it was a station in Tennesse. This was not just at sunset, when I think I heard interference from a 1030 near Washington, DC, but late at night. WBZ's frequency must be one of the quietest of the original 25 clear channels these days. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Feb 21 12:46:04 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Feb 21 12:46:27 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio Message-ID: >DATE: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:33:01 >From: DonKelley@aol.com >To: mixer@zoso.net, paul@03038.com >Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > >What Henley just doesn't get is that corporations do not dictate playlists. Certainly not in major markets. Stations go to great pains to put together their own playlists with the aim of playing what their own listeners want to hear. True, labels can hype an artist onto the charts (Clay Aiken being a great example) but the listeners are the ones who ultimately decide what gets played. > >When an artist isn't getting airplay it's usually due to a lack of listener votes...either for the artist or for the stations where they do get airplay. > On the other hand, a very odd thing happened a few years ago when a movie called "Oh Brother, Where Art Tou" came out. It was a moderately successful indie fillum, but the soundtrack album did extremely well. Big deal, you say. For months, several newspaper and magazine articles pointed to the enormous success of the soundtrack album and its absence from corporate- owned radio stations as an example of something the public craved but the suits kept off-the-air because it didn't fit into the niches their radio stations programmed for. I suppose some of those articles appeared in publications issued in the northeast, where there is a paucity of C&W outlets, but they reported that even stations in the South, Midwest and West toed the corporate line and rejected the album. Chances are, only college- or foundation-operated Public FMs played it. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From steveord@bit-net.com Sat Feb 21 13:08:16 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Feb 21 13:06:45 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040221125628.00a40ae0@pop3.bit-net.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: > > >On the other hand, a very odd thing happened a few years ago >when a movie called "Oh Brother, Where Art Tou" came out. >It was a moderately successful indie fillum, but the soundtrack >album did extremely well. Big deal, you say. For months, several >newspaper and magazine articles pointed to the enormous success >of the soundtrack album and its absence from corporate- >owned radio stations as an example of something the public >craved but the suits kept off-the-air because it didn't fit >into the niches their radio stations programmed for. I think we're seeing conspiracy where none exists. I seriously doubt that the big bad evil suits issued a directive to not play anything from this top-selling album for reasons unknown. I've never heard this album, nor do I know anyone who has a copy so I can't comment on its content. Is there a possibility that it really didn't fit? Why do seem to think that all these radio execs got together to ban a certain CD? At the time, I was still in programming...I never got that memo. Don Kelley...did you get a directive from Greater Media to stay away from that soundtrack? There are/were/always will be bands like Phish or the Grateful Dead who can sell out concerts within hours of tickets going on sale, but with very few exceptions don't/didn't/won't get much airplay. This (in the case of the Dead) existed long before the Telecom act of 1996. Some (again in the case of the Dead) need to be experienced to be fully appreciated, others may have a cult following, but most people find their music wanting. From RogerKola@aol.com Sat Feb 21 13:44:32 2004 From: RogerKola@aol.com (RogerKola@aol.com) Date: Sat Feb 21 13:44:46 2004 Subject: WBZ is off the air....If a tree falls in the woods...Does it make a sound? Message-ID: <11b.2e584811.2d690110@aol.com> Hi Larry and the group ...a search of the FCC site revealed this...if the link will work from outside of my search...It shows , along with a lot of other info, that there are many other stations on BZ's Am 1030 freq, along with several 50Kw's notably one in TN and one in FL. If the link won't work, let me know because the FCC website is harder to get through than the proverbial Molasses in February (or is it January ;-) Roger WA1KAT Click here: AM Query Results -- Audio Division (FCC) USA or http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state=&call=&arn=&city=&freq=1030&fre2=1030&typ e=0&facid=&list=1&dist=&dlat2=&mlat2=&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&si ze=9 In a message dated 02/21/04 12:30:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, lglavin@lycos.com writes: > On rare occasions, when skywaves are really flying, I've > turned my most sensitive radio (the one I use to listen > to LTAR) "sideways" to Hull, and I've noticed the merest > glimmer of something else on 1030, and I've been led > to believe it was a station in Tennesse. This was not just at > sunset, when I think I heard interference from a 1030 near > Washington, DC, but late at night. WBZ's frequency must be one > of the quietest of the original 25 clear channels these From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Feb 21 14:22:54 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Feb 21 14:23:12 2004 Subject: WBZ is off the air....If a tree falls in the woods...Does itmake a sound? Message-ID: >DATE: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 13:44:32 >From: RogerKola@aol.com >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Hi Larry and the group ...a search of the FCC site >revealed this...if the >link will work from outside of my search...It shows , >along with a lot of other >info, that there are many other stations on BZ's Am >1030 freq, along with >several 50Kw's notably one in TN and one in FL. > >If the link won't work, let me know because the FCC website is harder to get >through than the proverbial Molasses in February (or is it January ;-) > >Roger >WA1KAT > >HREF="http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state=&call=&arn=&city=&freq=1030&fre2=1030&type=0&facid=&list=1&dist=&dlat2=&mlat2=&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2 >=&EW=W&size=9">Click here: AM Query Results -- Audio Division (FCC) USA >or > >http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state=&call=&arn=&city=&freq=1030&fre2=1030&typ >e=0&facid=&list=1&dist=&dlat2=&mlat2=&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&si >ze=9 > The link worked perfectly. I've used it before by going thu the fcc.gov hoops. It's amazing how little interference WBZ-AM gets with all these stations on-the-air at night. They must dutifully power-down or go to nighttime patterns when required to do so! ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Feb 21 14:24:52 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Feb 21 14:25:55 2004 Subject: WBZ is off the air References: Message-ID: <000d01c3f8b0$7dac9220$19eefea9@dstrassberg> There's a 1030 station in Memphis (50 kW-D/1 kW-N, I believe) that has been notorious for running day power all night. The station has changed hands quite a few times and maybe the current owners are more careful about operating in accordance with the license than the previous owners were. I noted in (the not always accurate) AM Switch column of a recent issue of National Radio Club's DX News that WBZ had been granted a license for what I presume to be new auxiliary facilities at Soliders' Field Rd. I'm guessing that maybe WBZ changed from using a long-wire as the SFR aux antenna to a folded unipole on the same tower that previously supported one end of the long-wire. The day power is 10 kW, which is the power I always thought WBZ was licensed to use from the nondirectional SFR site. The interesting part of the item, however, was that the night power was given as only 1 kW. Now, bear with me through this next part: Recently, WCBS was granted a license to cover its auxiliary facilities on High Island, where it and WFAN normally diplex into a tower that is 207 degrees at 880. The aux tower (also shared with WFAN) is only 96 degrees at 880 (and 72 degrees at 660). WFAN was granted 35 kW-U from the aux tower (for an RMS field of 1744 mV/m @ 1 km) but WCBS's aux license is for 35 kW-D/26 kW-N (for a nighttime RMS field of 1581 mV/m @ 1 km). This made me wonder whether the FCC now requires stations' new aux facilities to protect other stations to a greater degree than do the same stations' primary facilities. WCBS may be limited to 1581 mV/m to protect first-adjacent WLS, whereas WFAN is allowed 1744 mV/m because the WFAN/WCBS site is 12 miles further from the WSCR site than from the WLS site and WLS's RMS field is about 4% greater than WSCR's. WBZ's new aux facilities (if indeed WBZ HAS new aux facilities--that is, if DX News wasn't just wrong) might be limited to 1 kw at night to protect a station somewhere east of Boston. But where? I don't think there is any allocation (even an unused one) on 1030 in the Canadian Maritimes. Still, giving some degree of credence to this speculation is the fact that WBZ's minimum field (to the east) is 337 mV/m @ 1 km--just a little more than the equivalent of 1 kW into a 1/4-wave nondirectional antenna. There is a 1030 station in San Juan PR. San Juan is a little bit east (and a LOT south) of Boston. WBZ's signal in the direction of San Juan is almost the equivalent of 50 kW ND into a half-wave tower. So it is unlikely that WBZ's aux operation would be restricted to 1 kW at night to protect San Juan. I know that WBZ's CE, Mark Manuelian, sometimes lurks on this list. If you're out there Mark, I'd appreciate an explanation. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurence Glavin To: ; Scott Fybush Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 12:29 PM Subject: Re: WBZ is off the air > >DATE: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:11:27 > >From: Scott Fybush > >To: bri@bostonradio.org > > On rare occasions, when skywaves are really flying, I've > turned my most sensitive radio (the one I use to listen > to LTAR) "sideways" to Hull, and I've noticed the merest > glimmer of something else on 1030, and I've been led > to believe it was a station in Tennesse. This was not just at > sunset, when I think I heard interference from a 1030 near > Washington, DC, but late at night. WBZ's frequency must be one > of the quietest of the original 25 clear channels these > days. From mlaurence@mindspring.com Sat Feb 21 14:36:49 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sat Feb 21 14:37:07 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio Message-ID: <3907912.1077392209100.JavaMail.root@wamui09.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Steve Ordinetz wrote: > Is there a possibility that it really didn't fit? That was definitely the situation with the "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" album. The movie helped bring it attention, and it won a big Grammy award in 2001. That created a lot of extra sales, some from a curiosity factor, and some who really liked the bluegrass music in the movie. But bluegrass didn't fit in any format that's commercially successful. Did people suddenly embrace bluegrass music and start buying all kinds of banjo CD's? Um, no. Was there evidence that people wanted to have their favorite stations play bluegrass in the middle of the other hits? I'm sure some songs from "Oh Brother" got into a music test, but the audience didn't respond favorably. A CD can become number one with a few hundred thousand buyers around the country. But a successful major market radio station has to please a cume of around a half million people in one city, every week. That's why album sales are only a small part of the research that goes into discovering what music people want to hear. If there was a big outcry for bluegrass music, don't you think radio stations from coast to coast would start playing it? Clear Channel and Infinity would join in just as fast as the smaller owners. There's no conspiracy, except to win ratings and make money. Mark Laurence From paul@03038.com Sat Feb 21 15:28:33 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sat Feb 21 15:28:06 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040221125628.00a40ae0@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <000901c3f8b9$8394a160$0e87fea9@q0002> Actually, the album was a very old-style bluegrass-type Country which I believe did not fit most "Contemporary Country" radio stations, which makes up the vast majority of Country music stations in the US. -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of SteveOrdinetz Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 1:08 PM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Don Henley on radio Laurence Glavin wrote: > > >On the other hand, a very odd thing happened a few years ago >when a movie called "Oh Brother, Where Art Tou" came out. >It was a moderately successful indie fillum, but the soundtrack >album did extremely well. Big deal, you say. For months, several >newspaper and magazine articles pointed to the enormous success >of the soundtrack album and its absence from corporate- >owned radio stations as an example of something the public >craved but the suits kept off-the-air because it didn't fit >into the niches their radio stations programmed for. I think we're seeing conspiracy where none exists. I seriously doubt that the big bad evil suits issued a directive to not play anything from this top-selling album for reasons unknown. I've never heard this album, nor do I know anyone who has a copy so I can't comment on its content. Is there a possibility that it really didn't fit? Why do seem to think that all these radio execs got together to ban a certain CD? At the time, I was still in programming...I never got that memo. Don Kelley...did you get a directive from Greater Media to stay away from that soundtrack? There are/were/always will be bands like Phish or the Grateful Dead who can sell out concerts within hours of tickets going on sale, but with very few exceptions don't/didn't/won't get much airplay. This (in the case of the Dead) existed long before the Telecom act of 1996. Some (again in the case of the Dead) need to be experienced to be fully appreciated, others may have a cult following, but most people find their music wanting. From DonKelley@aol.com Sat Feb 21 16:10:09 2004 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Sat Feb 21 16:10:32 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio Message-ID: <4CB5095C.158B814D.0238A7FB@aol.com> In a message dated 2/21/2004 1:08:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, steveord@bit-net.com writes: > I think we're seeing conspiracy where none exists. I seriously doubt that > the big bad evil suits issued a directive to not play anything from this > top-selling album for reasons unknown. Is there a > possibility that it really didn't fit? Don Kelley...did you get a directive > from Greater Media to stay away from that soundtrack? Absolutely not. As I said, there are no such directives. When we test music, we test for awareness, fit, compatability, acceptance, and fatigue. Have they ever heard of it? Would it fit on the station? Would it work when played next to other songs on the station? Do they like it? If so, do they like it a little, or a lot? Would they crank it up when song came on? If they dislike it, do they dislike it a little, or a lot? Would they flip off the station? Did they like the song in the past but now are sick of hearing it on the radio? I'll share this with you...when we tested the soundtrack of "Wherefore Art Thou Brother" in a regular AC test half the room looked up from their scoresheets with a "what the hell is that??" look on their faces. Almost no one knew it, and the few who did didn't like it. We actually tested it a second time and the results were even worse. That's why it didn't get airplay. From markwats@comcast.net Sat Feb 21 19:55:23 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat Feb 21 19:54:33 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" Message-ID: <005201c3f8de$8ddbb440$64f88018@markscomputer> This afternoon I saw the movie "Welcome To Mooseport" which opened on Friday. The movie is set in the fictional town of Mooseport, Maine. The movie stars Gene Hackman as a former US President and Ray Romano as the local hardware store owner and handyman. They both end up running against each other for mayor. Among the fictional media that follow the campaign are 2 real New England TV stations: WMTW (Channel 8 Poland Springs ME) and WFXT (Channel 25 Boston). I didn't see a WFXT Fox 25 mike flag or news truck (may have been in the background) but WMTW was more visible. There was a Ford Explorer with the WMTW logo parked on the street and shown in one scene. There was also a scene that showed someone watching TV and an actress portraying a WMTW reporter was doing a live report, the Channel 8 logo in the bottom right corner, but her mike flag showed "TVNN". The credits at the end of the movie mentioned WFXT Fox 25 & WMTW Channel 8 used with permission. Last year, the movie "Bruce Almighty" featured WKBW-TV (Channel 7 Buffalo) and it's "Eyewitness News". Any other movies in recent years that come to mind that featured real New England or Northeast US TV or radio stations? Mark Watson From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Feb 21 20:15:41 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat Feb 21 20:15:38 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" In-Reply-To: <005201c3f8de$8ddbb440$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <002201c3f8e1$66b2a6a0$6400a8c0@AMD> Howard Stern's movie "Private Parts" had several real stations. 106.9 WCCC Hartford, 107.1 in Westchester, NY, 660 WNBC New York, 101.1 WWDC Washington, DC, and 106.7 WWWW Detroit come to mind. There could have been more. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Watson Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:55 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" This afternoon I saw the movie "Welcome To Mooseport" which opened on Friday. The movie is set in the fictional town of Mooseport, Maine. The movie stars Gene Hackman as a former US President and Ray Romano as the local hardware store owner and handyman. They both end up running against each other for mayor. Among the fictional media that follow the campaign are 2 real New England TV stations: WMTW (Channel 8 Poland Springs ME) and WFXT (Channel 25 Boston). I didn't see a WFXT Fox 25 mike flag or news truck (may have been in the background) but WMTW was more visible. There was a Ford Explorer with the WMTW logo parked on the street and shown in one scene. There was also a scene that showed someone watching TV and an actress portraying a WMTW reporter was doing a live report, the Channel 8 logo in the bottom right corner, but her mike flag showed "TVNN". The credits at the end of the movie mentioned WFXT Fox 25 & WMTW Channel 8 used with permission. Last year, the movie "Bruce Almighty" featured WKBW-TV (Channel 7 Buffalo) and it's "Eyewitness News". Any other movies in recent years that come to mind that featured real New England or Northeast US TV or radio stations? Mark Watson From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Feb 21 20:19:40 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat Feb 21 20:19:49 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" In-Reply-To: <005201c3f8de$8ddbb440$64f88018@markscomputer> References: <005201c3f8de$8ddbb440$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040221201847.026f7d40@mail.mac.com> At 07:55 PM 2/21/2004, Mark Watson wrote: >Any other movies in recent years that >come to mind that featured real New England or Northeast US TV or radio >stations? The Perfect Storm. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From markwats@comcast.net Sat Feb 21 20:34:14 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat Feb 21 20:33:24 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" References: <005201c3f8de$8ddbb440$64f88018@markscomputer> <6.0.3.0.2.20040221201847.026f7d40@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <008e01c3f8e3$fb4789a0$64f88018@markscomputer> Larry Weil wrote: > The Perfect Storm. Was WHDH-TV meterologist Todd Gross in that movie, or an actor that portrayed Todd? Forgot about that movie. Mark Watson From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Feb 21 21:29:12 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat Feb 21 21:29:18 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" In-Reply-To: <008e01c3f8e3$fb4789a0$64f88018@markscomputer> References: <005201c3f8de$8ddbb440$64f88018@markscomputer> <6.0.3.0.2.20040221201847.026f7d40@mail.mac.com> <008e01c3f8e3$fb4789a0$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040221212821.027165a8@mail.mac.com> At 08:34 PM 2/21/2004, Mark Watson wrote: > Larry Weil wrote: > > > The Perfect Storm. > >Was WHDH-TV meterologist Todd Gross in that movie, or an actor that >portrayed Todd? Forgot about that movie. Todd was in the movie, he played Harvey Leonard. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Feb 22 01:36:34 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Feb 22 01:36:47 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: <4CB5095C.158B814D.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <403807A2.32079.6348C3@localhost> On 21 Feb 2004 at 16:10, DonKelley@aol.com wrote: > I'll share this with you...when we tested the soundtrack of "Wherefore Art > Thou Brother" in a regular AC test half the room looked up from their > scoresheets with a "what the hell is that??" look on their faces. Almost > no one knew it, and the few who did didn't like it. We actually tested it > a second time and the results were even worse. Funny, it used to be that people knew a song or heard of it =because= it got airplay. Now, it doesn't get airplay =unless= people have heard of it. So how do people hear of it? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Feb 22 06:36:59 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun Feb 22 06:35:25 2004 Subject: WBZ is off the air... Message-ID: In Tennessee last summer, about 100 miles southeast of Nashville, on 1030 at night I got WBZ with the radio facing one way, and something religious facing the radio the other way. I never caught an ID. Eli Polonsky From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Feb 22 08:00:17 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun Feb 22 07:58:43 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio Message-ID: The style of music on "Oh, Brother" was never commercial, so it would not fit on either Contemporary or Classic Country stations, and for the most part would not have the production styles that listeners to those commercial country formats are familiar with and expect. It certainly wouldn't fit on any A/C or pop stations of any sort and would turn most of their listeners right off. It's what's being informally called "roots country", which encompasses that old-style rural country sound, and bluegrass. Perhaps the only commercial format where it may possibly fit to some extent would be the relatively recent "Americana" stations, of which there are still only a handful in the US. The success of the soundtrack illustrates a phenomenon that I believe that there's a significant and sizeable music audience that has given up on commercial radio for music completely. They're listening to their own CD collections, and what they're buying is influenced and informed by PBS (TV and radio), films, the internet and groups focusing on different specialty genres, on-line and word-of-mouth communication among fans of various types of music, and public and college radio. It would be very difficult to make a commercial station to serve this nebulous and diverse audience feasible these days because there's such a variety of genres that I don't know if it would be possible to please enough of the listeners enough of the time to get consistent ratings. Public and other non-comm's do it with a number of different specialty shows, some of which have good followings, but the result is that different people are always tuning in and out every couple of hours for their favorite shows, and as good as some of those shows may be, very few music non-comm's get overall ratings that could sustain a commercial station. Still, I believe that this nebulous group who are no longer listening to commercial radio (or much radio at all) are where many of the audience who once made "FM underground" radio very popular in some cities 30 or 35 years ago went, and when a commercial station (such as a classic rock station) nowadays tries digging out "lost" music that appealed well to that audience way back then, it often gets no response and flops because that audience is no longer there, they haven't tuned to that part of the dial in decades, and it wouldn't be that easy, if possible at all, to get them back. Eli Polonsky > Actually, the album was a very old-style bluegrass-type Country which I > believe did not fit most "Contemporary Country" radio stations, which > makes up the vast majority of Country music stations in the US. > > -Paul Hopfgarten > -East Derry NH From steveord@bit-net.com Sun Feb 22 10:25:51 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Feb 22 10:24:16 2004 Subject: WBZ is off the air... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040222102408.009ff690@pop3.bit-net.com> Eli Polonsky wrote: >In Tennessee last summer, about 100 miles southeast of Nashville, >on 1030 at night I got WBZ with the radio facing one way, and >something religious facing the radio the other way. I've run into this at home as well. I have 2 outside antennas...one favoring N-S and another favoring E-W. Switching between them I've been able to switch between 2 different stations, with very little of the other in the background. Don't recall the frequencies offhand. From steveord@bit-net.com Sun Feb 22 10:46:47 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Feb 22 10:45:13 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040222102700.00a57d00@pop3.bit-net.com> Eli Polonsky wrote: >Still, I believe that this nebulous group who are no longer >listening to commercial radio (or much radio at all) are where >many of the audience who once made "FM underground" radio very >popular in some cities 30 or 35 years ago went, and when a >commercial station (such as a classic rock station) nowadays >tries digging out "lost" music that appealed well to that >audience way back then, it often gets no response and flops >because that audience is no longer there, they haven't tuned >to that part of the dial in decades, and it wouldn't be that >easy, if possible at all, to get them back. I wonder if this group were ever more than occasional and/or tentative listeners. Certainly there were a lot fewer format choices available in the days when free-form "FM underground" radio was around...even back then those stations seemed to appeal mostly to people who'd turned away from radio as having nothing of interest to offer otherwise. These disgruntled listeners may have put up with the Mahavishnu Orchestra in order to hear the Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd or Joan Baez back then, but the likelihood of an "all over the road" format succeeding today with our limited attention spans is unlikely. Indeed, AOR didn't really become successful until the mid 70s when stations started to tighten up their playlists. Realistically, what did most markets offer formatically in the 60s/70s? Several top 40s battling it out for the teens, one or two big dominant full service MOR/AC stations (the old WHDH is a perfect example, or WBZ in the 70s/80s), and maybe a country station. FM was by and large a wasteland either simulcasting the AM in the 60s or elevator music once the FCC clamped down on simulcasts. I even see my parents as an example of this when I was growing up. My mother had grown up with "old time" radio (radio dramas...the Shadow, Fibber McGee & Molly, etc.), and wasn't particularly interested in music radio aside from the occasional novelty song. My father listened mostly to polkas & classical. Neither of which were available on the air in small-town Vermont (aside from the obligatory Sunday morning polka party shows). They'd tolerate top 40 because my siblings and I made such a fuss otherwise, but otherwise neither one listened to much radio except for the news. From hmglaz@webtv.net Sun Feb 22 11:43:06 2004 From: hmglaz@webtv.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Sun Feb 22 11:43:14 2004 Subject: "Welcome to Mooseport" WMTW, etc. In-Reply-To: boston-radio-interest-request@rolinin.BostonRadio.org's message of Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:29:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <15055-4038DC1A-2742@storefull-3134.bay.webtv.net> "Mystic River" had a brief snippet of a newscast, including a live shot from "Jim Smith, Fox 25 News." Everything looked right except the time -- middle of the day. Hollywood apparently invented a "Fox 25 News at Noon" for the sake of product placement. Howard From ka1mvk@hotmail.com Sun Feb 22 12:46:50 2004 From: ka1mvk@hotmail.com (Andy Soule) Date: Sun Feb 22 12:58:34 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" References: <002201c3f8e1$66b2a6a0$6400a8c0@AMD> Message-ID: "Private Parts" was a Documentary...:-) Pet Sematary has a scene where they are watching the news, and it is Thom Hallock on WLBZ-2 in Bangor, Maine. He was a real reporter there at the time. Many of Stephen Kings books have refernces to real people and radio stations in Maine. Chuck Foster, Mighty John, Bobby Russell who worked at Kings station years ago are all in books somewhere. I am sure there are others I have forgotten. I think WBLM was in one book, but forget which. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Lehmann" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:15 PM Subject: RE: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" > Howard Stern's movie "Private Parts" had several real stations. 106.9 > WCCC Hartford, 107.1 in Westchester, NY, 660 WNBC New York, 101.1 WWDC > Washington, DC, and 106.7 WWWW Detroit come to mind. There could have > been more. > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf > Of Mark Watson > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:55 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" > > This afternoon I saw the movie "Welcome To Mooseport" which opened > on > Friday. The movie is set in the fictional town of Mooseport, Maine. The > movie stars Gene Hackman as a former US President and Ray Romano as the > local hardware store owner and handyman. They both end up running > against > each other for mayor. Among the fictional media that follow the campaign > are > 2 real New England TV stations: WMTW (Channel 8 Poland Springs ME) and > WFXT > (Channel 25 Boston). I didn't see a WFXT Fox 25 mike flag or news truck > (may > have been in the background) but WMTW was more visible. There was a Ford > Explorer with the WMTW logo parked on the street and shown in one scene. > There was also a scene that showed someone watching TV and an actress > portraying a WMTW reporter was doing a live report, the Channel 8 logo > in > the bottom right corner, but her mike flag showed "TVNN". > > The credits at the end of the movie mentioned WFXT Fox 25 & WMTW > Channel > 8 used with permission. > > Last year, the movie "Bruce Almighty" featured WKBW-TV (Channel 7 > Buffalo) and it's "Eyewitness News". Any other movies in recent years > that > come to mind that featured real New England or Northeast US TV or radio > stations? > > Mark Watson > > > > > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Feb 22 13:04:34 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Feb 22 13:04:49 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" References: <002201c3f8e1$66b2a6a0$6400a8c0@AMD> Message-ID: <001e01c3f96e$56c18df0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> The movie Elvis starring Kurt Russell had a scene featuring a WGAN announcer talking about the Elvis concert scheduled in Portland being cancelled due to the King's death. I think they may have used the actual WGAN announcer, but I may be wrong about that. I'm sure someone here knows the details. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sun Feb 22 13:36:42 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sun Feb 22 13:35:23 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c3f972$d1612b20$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Andy wrote: >> (snip) Many of Stephen Kings books have refernces to real people and radio stations in Maine. (snip)<< One of my personal favorite King references to broadcasting was in one of his early stories in which he used the analogy for something of size as being "as big as the WGAN tower," which refered to the big stick along Route 302 in Raymond. At that time, Channel 13 and FM 102.9 were both WGAN (tv and FM, respectively) and on the stick. In another of the scare-meister's tales, King's protagonist is James Gardiner. A long-time Maine broadcaster who used the nom-du-air of Nelson Gardiner is "legally" James N. Gardiner. I read the book, and inquired of Nelson if it was a coincidence. Nelson replied that he and King were casual buddies up in Bangor. There's another WGAN reference in the Elvis-mentary, "This Is Elvis," which opens with a shot of the "Welcome to Portland" sign on I-295 and a sound-over of "WGAN" giving listeners a chance to win the last pair of tickets for that evening's Elvis concert. - -Chuck (reading Stephen's newest, scariest-ever book: the Bangor ARB) Igo From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sun Feb 22 13:39:16 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sun Feb 22 13:37:54 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" In-Reply-To: <001e01c3f96e$56c18df0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000101c3f973$2cea1740$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Dan B wrote: >>The movie Elvis starring Kurt Russell had a scene featuring a WGAN announcer talking about the Elvis concert scheduled in Portland being cancelled due to the King's death. I think they may have used the actual WGAN announcer, but I may be wrong about that. I'm sure someone here knows the details.<< GMTA... I just hit send and your's arrived. ;-) Not a WGAN personality. It was an H-wood voice. Bob Rose was actually on the air when the contest was being conducted, and Bob broke the news in Portland. (Bob was a bit miffed, and rightfully so, that he wasn't asked to do his own voice-thing.) - -Chuck Igo From rjoc@webtv.net Sun Feb 22 13:45:32 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Sun Feb 22 13:45:44 2004 Subject: WJTO shows in Portland ratings In-Reply-To: "Dan Billings" 's message of Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:44:08 -0500 Message-ID: <2781-4038F8CC-1941@storefull-3274.bay.webtv.net> I noticed that myself the other day. And look at the latest Boston ratings, where Bob's WJIB-740 shows up with a 0.5 which certainly isn't bad for a 250-watt AM station. WJTO-730 does put out a good signal across Casco Bay into the Portland area, and along the Maine and New Hampshire coast, from Portsmouth, all the way up here to Mount Desert Island. I have even heard them on my car radio over in Yarmouth County, Nova Scotia. The signal doesn't get too far inland however, once west of Gorham and north of Lewiston, Auburn and Waterville it fades out rapidly. Even during the daytime the French talker from Montreal on 730 takes over in NW Maine. I did check Augusta and Lewiston ratings and WJTO was a no-show there. Bob Bittner certainly does have a nice niche format here and I enjoy listening to it for an hour or two while driving down to the Portland area and in Mid-Coast Maine. BTW There is a great article in the new March 2004 edition of Popular Communications magazine about the old Beautiful/Easy-listening stations. It even features an old 1970's Boston area FM Dial card from WWEL 107.9 "All is Well", back in it's pre-WXKS days. WJIB is also briefly mentioned. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From billo@shoreham.net Sun Feb 22 13:49:12 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Feb 22 13:49:28 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000901c3f974$9080ab60$0200a8c0@boneill> Andy writes: > "Private Parts" was a Documentary...:-) > > Pet Sematary has a scene where they are watching the news, > and it is Thom > Hallock on WLBZ-2 in Bangor, Maine. He was a real reporter > there at the > time. Thom's a co-anchor of the six and eleven at WPTZ (5-Plattsburg/Burl.) Does a decent job. No happy talk. Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Feb 22 13:55:45 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Feb 22 13:55:49 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" References: <000001c3f972$d1612b20$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <002801c3f975$7ab332c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Igo" To: "'Andy Soule'" Cc: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 1:36 PM Subject: RE: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" > There's another WGAN reference in the Elvis-mentary, "This Is Elvis," > which opens with a shot of the "Welcome to Portland" sign on I-295 and a > sound-over of "WGAN" giving listeners a chance to win the last pair of > tickets for that evening's Elvis concert. I think that explains my confusion with the Russell movie. From rjoc@webtv.net Sun Feb 22 14:39:13 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Sun Feb 22 14:39:25 2004 Subject: More Maine FM translator applications Message-ID: <2780-40390561-3039@storefull-3274.bay.webtv.net> Been perousing the FCC Website looking for new LPFM and translator applications and surprised at the newest batch of religious applications around Maine. A group called "Light of Life Ministries" has applied for the following translators: Yarmouth 102.3FM Freeport 98.3FM Richmond Center 94.5FM Lincoln 98.9FM An application for 97.9 in Houlton was dismissed, while an application for 100.7 in Bangor has been tentatively approved, pending any objections received within 15 days. I notified fellow poster on this list Jeremy Mixer at WKIT about this. I can't understand why the FCC would approve this application for 100.7 being just on the second adjacent channel to local WKIT on 100.3. Sure seems like an awful lot of applications for religious translators in areas that are already well served by existing religious stations. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From billo@shoreham.net Sun Feb 22 15:04:19 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Feb 22 15:04:27 2004 Subject: Stuck in MUD Message-ID: <000101c3f97f$0f3796d0$0200a8c0@boneill> "Farm Fresh Radio, WMUD-LP Moriah." Speaking of LPFMs, this 100 watter at 89.3 is one gem of a jukebox. The wmud.org website says they hope to stream audio. It will be worth checking it out if that happens. An ecclectic mix of folk, blues, standards, jazz, swing, etc. No jocks, no voice tracking. Just drop-ins. I would like to hear more from the guy running the show, if even for a couple of hours in the evening or something. I notice it's still running in mono. Bill O'Neill (My suggestion: "Just our name is dirty....WMUD.") From billo@shoreham.net Sun Feb 22 15:06:15 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Feb 22 15:06:20 2004 Subject: WMUD playlist Message-ID: <000201c3f97f$54551210$0200a8c0@boneill> As soon as I "sent" I noticed a new link that provides real-time playlisting at WMUD: http://216.104.178.31/NewFiles/RAC.html Neat. Bill O'Neill From ka1mvk@hotmail.com Sun Feb 22 15:17:47 2004 From: ka1mvk@hotmail.com (Andy Soule) Date: Sun Feb 22 15:17:54 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" References: <000001c3f972$d1612b20$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: Not Scary at all. The Bangor book is perfectly accurate, plus/minus five points. So this could have been great year for them! No one will ever know, unless a scientifically valid survey is done someday. WQCB has taken very little heat for losing thier morning guy/PD of 17 years. I would say JR is doing pretty good, going to a challenging situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Igo" To: "'Andy Soule'" Cc: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 1:36 PM Subject: RE: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" > > > - -Chuck (reading Stephen's newest, scariest-ever book: the Bangor ARB) > Igo > > From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sun Feb 22 18:03:59 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sun Feb 22 18:13:14 2004 Subject: Mike Addams airchecks Message-ID: <068601c3f999$62bef4a0$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Hello All.... Does anyone know where I could find some airchecks of the exciting Mike Addams at WRKO (and possibly WROR and WHDH?) Are there some online sites that have a good collection of them? Thanks! JP From mixer@zoso.net Sun Feb 22 19:32:19 2004 From: mixer@zoso.net (Jeremy Mixer) Date: Sun Feb 22 19:24:41 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" In-Reply-To: References: <002201c3f8e1$66b2a6a0$6400a8c0@AMD> Message-ID: On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Andy Soule wrote: > Many of Stephen Kings books have refernces to real people and radio > stations in Maine. Chuck Foster, Mighty John, Bobby Russell who worked at > Kings station years ago are all in books somewhere. I am sure there are > others I have forgotten. I think WBLM was in one book, but forget which. Hi Andy and all- Bobby does still work there :) I think you know that though, and the words just came out wrong. Isn't there a more recent book that mentions an engineer with your father's name? Also worth noting with WBLM, Billy Crystal's character in "City Slickers" used tow rok at WBLM, and I know that Fuller-Jeffery were asked for permission in order to use the call letters. Jeremy From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sun Feb 22 19:59:23 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sun Feb 22 19:59:02 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000701c3f9a8$4776dd20$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Regarding my reference to scary books by Stephen King and the ARB, Andy wrote: >> Not Scary at all. The Bangor book is perfectly accurate, plus/minus five points. So this could have been great year for them! (snip)<< irt my Bangor ARB/King-thing reference, no offense intended to any of the broadcasters who may be in the employ of King's enterprises. I give credit to that line to Bruce Stevens (now at WTIC) who was our morning guy at WGAN in the early 80's. When Stephen King first purchased his station (Z-62, iirc), the "scary book" thing was a natural progression. - -Chuck Igo From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Feb 22 20:43:13 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Feb 22 20:43:20 2004 Subject: Don Henley on radio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200402230143.i1N1hDo8061561@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > It's what's being informally called "roots country", which > encompasses that old-style rural country sound, and bluegrass. > Perhaps the only commercial format where it may possibly fit > to some extent would be the relatively recent "Americana" > stations, of which there are still only a handful in the US. I know of only one commercial bluegrass station in the country, WPAQ in Mount Airy, N.C., which has been a forty-year labor of love for its owner since he signed it on. (He now also owns the other station in town.) It's a very interesting-sounding station, but I can't imagine that it could be profitable (there or anywhere else). When Scott and I were in Mount Airy just about a year ago, we listened to WPAQ for a few hours, and heard (and saw) musicians simply dropping in to have a chat with the jock on air and play a few live tunes. I wish we had had the time to go inside and visit more extensively. -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Feb 22 20:53:52 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Feb 22 20:55:17 2004 Subject: WMTW-TV & WFXT In "Welcome To Mooseport" In-Reply-To: <000001c3f972$d1612b20$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> References: <000001c3f972$d1612b20$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <200402230153.i1N1rqU9061626@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > One of my personal favorite King references to broadcasting was in one > of his early stories in which he used the analogy for something of size > as being "as big as the WGAN tower," which refered to the big stick > along Route 302 in Raymond. At that time, Channel 13 and FM 102.9 were > both WGAN (tv and FM, respectively) and on the stick. Of course, that's an appropriate reference for another reason: that tower was briefly the tallest free-standing structure in the world. -GAWollman From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Feb 23 17:18:18 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Feb 23 18:18:40 2004 Subject: Article Re: WBOQ Message-ID: A link to an article about WBOQ-FM 104.9 Beverly, MA appeared in radio-info.comBoston. For those of you who don't venture there, here is the URL: http://www.townonline.com/beverly/news/local_regional/bev_newbcradioetmp02192004.htm WBOQ has a new 6,000-watt transmitter? Shouldn't its ERP be about 20KW? ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Feb 23 18:39:21 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon Feb 23 19:05:08 2004 Subject: Article Re: WBOQ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 5:18 PM -0500 2/23/04, Laurence Glavin wrote: > >WBOQ has a new 6,000-watt transmitter? Shouldn't its >ERP be about 20KW? I think you are taking the article too literally. The author is most likely not a technical person, he probably has no idea of the difference between TPO and ERP. The article did not say it was a new transmitter, just that it was upgraded. That can mean anything. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From brian_vita@cssinc.com Mon Feb 23 20:56:29 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Mon Feb 23 20:56:35 2004 Subject: Article Re: WBOQ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001301c3fa79$6bae7cd0$c3ec33d1@alvin> > > > At 5:18 PM -0500 2/23/04, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > > >WBOQ has a new 6,000-watt transmitter? Shouldn't its > >ERP be about 20KW? > > I think you are taking the article too literally. The author is most > likely not a technical person, he probably has no idea of the > difference between TPO and ERP. > > The article did not say it was a new transmitter, just that it was > upgraded. That can mean anything. > Changed out the knobs and replaced some indicator bulbs? From pete@partnercomm.com Mon Feb 23 22:00:04 2004 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Mon Feb 23 22:00:07 2004 Subject: Article Re: WBOQ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Laurence Glavin wrote: > WBOQ has a new 6,000-watt transmitter? Shouldn't its > ERP be about 20KW? WBOQ is a directional class A facility (136m, 3200W ERP), with a broad null to the southwest, says the FCC CDBS (and a couple of less official sources). The BRA disagrees, indicating the 3.2KW as a CP - it likely just has not been updated. Radio-locator doesn't indicate the directionality in any way, which I find strange. Perhaps they have not updated their pattern calculation. In any case. it's ERP is well under 20KW in *any* direction. -Peter Murray (N3IXY) in Boston tomorrow through Sunday(!) 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flip cchalone broadnax johnh beedge baranski snsingh dancer maevan presley maribel wlarue shirley joes kusuma fluffy saints dokim krasner herling number9 Get off this list by writing to getmeoff731@excitemail.com From nuhuc@juno.com Tue Feb 24 12:24:20 2004 From: nuhuc@juno.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Tue Feb 24 12:26:35 2004 Subject: Fw: More FMs for Albany Message-ID: <20040224.092452.17394.2569133@webmail13.lax.untd.com> I'm hearing today that WNYQ/Glens Falls NY (105.7) is moving south and sticking their antenna on a WPTR tower. Also WPTR and WDCD (96.7) are flipping formats...with the religon on 1540 and Legends on FM competing with WKLI and WTRY. Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From sven@gordsven.com Tue Feb 24 13:38:28 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Tue Feb 24 13:38:37 2004 Subject: Fw: More FMs for Albany In-Reply-To: <20040224.092452.17394.2569133@webmail13.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Rick Kelly wrote: > sticking their antenna on a WPTR tower. Also WPTR and WDCD (96.7) are > flipping formats...with the religon on 1540 and Legends on FM competing That's a bummer. I occasionally am able to pick up Legends 1540 down here in New York City. Seems like there won't be anything worthwile listening on AM radio in the Capital District anymore....unless someone else decides to flip another one of the AM chatter-boxes to music (fat chance) :( Not only that but with 50,000 watts, AM 1540 has an excellent signal in Albany & Troy and beyond, while 96.7 FM doesn't, unless they were to move the transmitter INTO the city itself. -- Sven From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Feb 24 13:46:50 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Feb 24 13:46:54 2004 Subject: Fw: More FMs for Albany In-Reply-To: References: <20040224.092452.17394.2569133@webmail13.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <57098.216.204.15.170.1077648410.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Sven Franklyn Weil wrote: >> Also WPTR and WDCD (96.7) are >> flipping formats...with the religon on 1540 and Legends on FM >> competing > > That's a bummer. I occasionally am able to pick up Legends 1540 down > here in New York City. > Not only that but with 50,000 watts, AM 1540 has an excellent signal in > Albany & Troy and beyond, while 96.7 FM doesn't, unless they were to > move the transmitter INTO the city itself. I'm surprised you get a decent signal on 1540 in NYC...I thought they were directional NE. The signal drops off real fast heading west...it's gone by the time you get to Amsterdam. I'm surprised their day pattern isn't a bit looser...isn't the station they're protecting the 1540 in Iowa, or does 2nd adjacent WWKB (then WKBW) factor into it as well? From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Tue Feb 24 14:12:59 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Tue Feb 24 14:13:14 2004 Subject: Fw: More FMs for Albany In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040224191259.28410.qmail@web12825.mail.yahoo.com> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:38:28 Sven Franklyn Weil wrote: > Not only that but with 50,000 watts, AM 1540 has an > excellent signal in > Albany & Troy and beyond, while 96.7 FM doesn't, Actually, in the tri-cities themselves (Albany, Schenectady, and Troy) 96.7 FM (WDCD, the former WVKZ-FM, WWCP amongst other calls) does put out a very good signal (near city grade) I've found. Its not until you start to venture into outlying areas when 96.7's signal starts dropping off fast. For example, to the west, the minute you exit Saratoga County kiss the signal goodbye. Not sure how far south it gets exactly, but I'm willing to bet as soon as you get as far as Selkirk their signal will start dropping like a rock as well. Comparatively speaking though, their signal coverage area is actually pretty similar to that of WKLI (100.9), albeit a bit smaller. Its too bad that, in order for WPTR to compete against WKLI, they have to move off the 1540 frequency and onto the much smaller 96.7, but unfortunately the last few books have shown thats where the listeners are, not on AM. Matt Osborne Poughkepsie, NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools From scott@fybush.com Tue Feb 24 14:26:01 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Feb 24 14:20:18 2004 Subject: Fw: More FMs for Albany In-Reply-To: <20040224191259.28410.qmail@web12825.mail.yahoo.com> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040224142406.03776cf8@gwind.pair.com> >Its too >bad that, in order for WPTR to compete against WKLI, >they have to move off the 1540 frequency and onto the >much smaller 96.7, but unfortunately the last few >books have shown thats where the listeners are, not on >AM. Actually, I suspect the reason for the move is just the opposite: most religious broadcasters who lease time for their shows (aka "dollar a holler preachers" to some of us) pay more per hour for a more powerful signal. I'm betting that Crawford can charge more for the "FIFTY THOUSAND WATTS" of 1540 than it can for the 3,000 watts of 96.7. I also wonder, given Crawford's relative success with secular URBAN formats on two of its Chicago FMs, if 96.7 won't eventually wander over in that direction. s From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Feb 24 14:39:46 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Feb 24 14:39:48 2004 Subject: Fw: More FMs for Albany In-Reply-To: <57098.216.204.15.170.1077648410.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> References: <20040224.092452.17394.2569133@webmail13.lax.untd.com> <57098.216.204.15.170.1077648410.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <200402241939.i1OJdk2u076633@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > I'm surprised you get a decent signal on 1540 in NYC...I thought they were > directional NE. The signal drops off real fast heading west...it's gone > by the time you get to Amsterdam. I'm surprised their day pattern isn't a > bit looser...isn't the station they're protecting the 1540 in Iowa, or > does 2nd adjacent WWKB (then WKBW) factor into it as well? ZNS1 is the station that WPTR is protecting. -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Feb 24 14:41:12 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Feb 24 14:42:14 2004 Subject: Fw: More FMs for Albany References: Message-ID: <001501c3fb0e$443d7c60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> The 1540 signal, though outstanding in Schenectady and Troy, is legendary for being AWFUL in Albany. There is a problem with a small area of poor soil conductivity between the 1540 site and downtown Albany. 1540 delivers at least 75 mV/m to Schenectady and almost that much to Troy, but the signal in Albany is generally well below 25 mV/m. Drive around Albany--even the parts west of downtown--and tune between 1460 and 1540. 5000W 1460 is just WAY louder than 50,000W 1540. The problem is reflected in poor reception south and east of Albany as well. As it turns out, the transmitter should have been sited in Glenmont or Delmar or someplace like that. Even though the pattern throws a pretty deep null to the south to protect ZNS-1, a site further southeast of the original would at least have provided a respectable signal in pretty much the entire Capital District. The present site loses a significant part of the market. When WPTR first signed on in 1947 or 1948 it was 10 kW-U DA-1. The fact that the signal in downtown Albany was in the neighborhood of 6 mV/m (FAR below the then-required 25 mV/m in the "principal business district" of the COL) was instrumental in expediting a power increase to 50 kW. Under current rules, 6 mV/m is OK, but it's still way worse than the signals from 590 (even at night), 980, 1300, 1460 and even 1400. Dan Strassberg, Contributing Editor EDN Magazine | Reed Electronics Group | www.edn.com Fax 707-215-6367 | StrassbergEDN@att.net *** CONTACT ME BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO SEND ATTACHMENTS LARGER THAN 1 Mbyte *** ----- Original Message ----- From: Sven Franklyn Weil To: Rick Kelly Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 1:38 PM Subject: Re: Fw: More FMs for Albany > On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Rick Kelly wrote: > > sticking their antenna on a WPTR tower. Also WPTR and WDCD (96.7) are > > flipping formats...with the religon on 1540 and Legends on FM competing > > That's a bummer. I occasionally am able to pick up Legends 1540 down here > in New York City. > > Seems like there won't be anything worthwile listening > on AM radio in the Capital District anymore....unless someone else decides > to flip another one of the AM chatter-boxes to music (fat chance) :( > > Not only that but with 50,000 watts, AM 1540 has an excellent signal in > Albany & Troy and beyond, while 96.7 FM doesn't, unless they were to move > the transmitter INTO the city itself. > > -- > Sven > From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Feb 24 14:52:35 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Feb 24 15:12:38 2004 Subject: Fw: More FMs for Albany References: <20040224.092452.17394.2569133@webmail13.lax.untd.com><57098.216.204.15.170.1077648410.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> <200402241939.i1OJdk2u076633@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <002e01c3fb12$84e9be00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> WPTR (or WDCD after Monday) protects both ZNS-1 and KXEL. When WPTR was granted, KXEL wasn't yet a Class IB but it was apparently negotiating with the FCC for an upgrade in class. An engineer who was quite involved in the design of WPTR told me that KXEL protested WPTR's original application but the applicant made measurements that demonstrated that KXEL did not deliver a 0.5 mV/m 50% skywave in the eastern part of the Mohawk Valley. Had KXEL not been trying to be reclassified from Class II to Class IB, its skywave coverage in New York state would have been irrelevant. As a kid, I used to listen to KXEL regularly in New York City, but I doubt whether the signal was 0.5 mV/m 50% of the time. Sometimes I would get ZNS instead of KXEL. At that time ZNS had no number in its call sign and it was 10 kW-U ND-U. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Garrett Wollman To: SteveOrdinetz Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Fw: More FMs for Albany > < said: > > > I'm surprised you get a decent signal on 1540 in NYC...I thought they were > > directional NE. The signal drops off real fast heading west...it's gone > > by the time you get to Amsterdam. I'm surprised their day pattern isn't a > > bit looser...isn't the station they're protecting the 1540 in Iowa, or > > does 2nd adjacent WWKB (then WKBW) factor into it as well? > > ZNS1 is the station that WPTR is protecting. > > -GAWollman > From ttgorski@cenaps.com Tue Feb 24 16:35:00 2004 From: ttgorski@cenaps.com (ttgorski@cenaps.com) Date: Tue Feb 24 16:35:27 2004 Subject: Two Exciting Gorski Trainings!! 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Let's keep working together to provide better treatment to more people at a lower cost. Terence T. Gorski Registration: Training (Circle One): RPC APM RPT Date of Training______________________________________ Print Name: ________________________________________ Organization:________________________________________ Address: ___________________________________________ City: _______________________________________________ State: ______ Zip: ___________ Phone: _____________________________________________ Fax: _______________________________________________ Email: ______________________________________________ Check or Visa/Mastercard (Circle one) Acct # : ____________________________ Exp Date: ________ Billing Address: _______________________________________ ______________________________________ (include zip code) Refund policy: Cancellations must be made in writing and postmarked no later than 2 weeks before the start of the workshop. A $75 processing fee will be deducted from the refund. No refunds will be provided for any cancellations later than 2 weeks prior the training. In order to accommodate participants with special needs we request a 2 week notification prior to the event. Opt-Out: If you would like to be removed from this mailing list please hit reply and put "Remove" in the subject field or send a note to info@cenaps.com with a subject line "Remove". From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Feb 25 00:29:05 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Feb 25 00:29:07 2004 Subject: Fw: More FMs for Albany In-Reply-To: <20040224.092452.17394.2569133@webmail13.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <403BEC51.11595.80600D@localhost> On 24 Feb 2004 at 17:24, Rick Kelly wrote: > I'm hearing today that WNYQ/Glens Falls NY (105.7) is moving south and > sticking their antenna on a WPTR tower. Also WPTR and WDCD (96.7) are > flipping formats...with the religon on 1540 and Legends on FM competing > with WKLI and WTRY. Does that mean flipping call letters, too? I hope this doesn't happen. I enjoy listening to Legends now and then, and on Saturday night, I like to listen to the Hubcap oldies program that they run. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Wed Feb 25 01:15:23 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Wed Feb 25 01:15:27 2004 Subject: Fw: More FMs for Albany In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040224142406.03776cf8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <20040225061523.43121.qmail@web12822.mail.yahoo.com> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:26:01 Scott Fybush wrote: > I also wonder, given Crawford's relative success > with secular URBAN formats > on two of its Chicago FMs, if 96.7 won't eventually > wander over in that > direction. I haven't seen any numbers lately for WAJZ (96.3, currently doing an urban format in the Albany market), but would they be willing to go out on a limb with that format in a market that already has an established urban station? In addition, Albany really doesn't seem like a market that could support more than one urban station. Just seems to me that even in a head to head legends battle with WKLI, Crawford would do much better with that than a head to head urban battle there. Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools From scott@fybush.com Wed Feb 25 01:32:36 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Feb 25 01:26:53 2004 Subject: Fw: More FMs for Albany In-Reply-To: <20040225061523.43121.qmail@web12822.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040224142406.03776cf8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040225012721.037a9e60@gwind.pair.com> >I haven't seen any numbers lately for WAJZ (96.3, >currently doing an urban format in the Albany market), >but would they be willing to go out on a limb with >that format in a market that already has an >established urban station? In addition, Albany really >doesn't seem like a market that could support more >than one urban station. Just seems to me that even in >a head to head legends battle with WKLI, Crawford >would do much better with that than a head to head >urban battle there. Hi Matt! I think the battle will be more with WTRY than with WKLI. Unlike the Rochester "Legends" on 990, isn't Albany's "Legends" more of a "Real Oldies" 50s-60s pop format? I suspect that, if anything, we'll see the oldies on WPTR-FM get a little newer (i.e., late 60s-70s). Several of those rimshot FMs around Albany are just begging to be combined into simulcasts to reach more of the market. Galaxy's 93.7 and 94.5 come to mind...and it seems to me that if 96.3 and 96.7 could be combined under one owner, it too would be a sensible simulcast. 96.7 blankets Schenectady County but doesn't do especially well in Albany; 96.3 hits Albany and Troy from the Helderbergs but doesn't do well in Schenectady. s From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Feb 25 07:40:08 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Feb 25 07:41:24 2004 Subject: Fw: More FMs for Albany References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040224142406.03776cf8@gwind.pair.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20040225012721.037a9e60@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <004701c3fb9c$a5c7a3a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Is 96.3 directional? I find it a little hard to imagine that a nondirectional signal from the Helderbergs (even a full Class A) wouldn't cover Schenectady adequately. OTOH, a 96.7 a little west of Schenectady could make trouble in Schenectady for a 96.3 in the Helderbergs. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Fybush To: Matthew Osborne Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:32 AM Subject: Re: Fw: More FMs for Albany > Several of those rimshot FMs around Albany are just begging to be combined > into simulcasts to reach more of the market. Galaxy's 93.7 and 94.5 come to > mind...and it seems to me that if 96.3 and 96.7 could be combined under one > owner, it too would be a sensible simulcast. 96.7 blankets Schenectady > County but doesn't do especially well in Albany; 96.3 hits Albany and Troy > from the Helderbergs but doesn't do well in Schenectady. From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Feb 25 07:44:11 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Feb 25 07:42:45 2004 Subject: Fw: More FMs for Albany In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040225012721.037a9e60@gwind.pair.com> References: <20040225061523.43121.qmail@web12822.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20040224142406.03776cf8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040225073953.00a09830@pop3.bit-net.com> Scott Fybush wrote: >I think the battle will be more with WTRY than with WKLI. Unlike the >Rochester "Legends" on 990, isn't Albany's "Legends" more of a "Real >Oldies" 50s-60s pop format? I suspect that, if anything, we'll see the >oldies on WPTR-FM get a little newer (i.e., late 60s-70s). I wouldn't go so far as to call WPTR "real oldies". Granted they do play some 50s/early 60s rock & roll, but more often than not they'll cold segue Chuck Berry or Little Richard into some soggy Patti Page ballad. Not my idea of "real oldies". Maybe they'll be a little more focused when they move it to FM and make it sound like something other than an afterthought. From elipolo@earthlink.net Wed Feb 25 07:58:10 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Wed Feb 25 07:48:29 2004 Subject: More FMs for Albany In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040225012721.037a9e60@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: > Hi Matt! > > I think the battle will be more with WTRY than with WKLI. Unlike the > Rochester "Legends" on 990, isn't Albany's "Legends" more of a "Real > Oldies" 50s-60s pop format? I suspect that, if anything, we'll see the > oldies on WPTR-FM get a little newer (i.e., late 60s-70s). Actually, it's a very diverse format from that era combining both harder rocx'n'roll oldies than you hear on most adult standards stations with a lot of MOR pop. I guess it's like pop stations back in the day that played anything that was high on the charts. I've heard incongruous segues like Little Richard into Doris Day... Eli Polonsky From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Wed Feb 25 12:18:38 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Wed Feb 25 12:18:46 2004 Subject: Fw: More FMs for Albany In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040225012721.037a9e60@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <20040225171838.19538.qmail@web12826.mail.yahoo.com> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 01:32:36 Scott Fybush wrote: I suspect that, if > anything, we'll see the > oldies on WPTR-FM get a little newer (i.e., late > 60s-70s). Oddly enough, 96.7, in a previous incarnation, actually tried an oldies format for a period of time. I forget exactly when this happened, but the calls WXXO come to mind. This occurred right after 99.5 (WRVE, at the time WGY-FM) switched from oldies to the original River. At that time as well, 98.3 FM was in the midst of its all 70s format (which was a miserable failure I might add), leaving oldies only available at AM 980 in the Capital Region. Never really heard much about WXXO's numbers, so I don't know how successful they were or weren't, but I do know they were bird fed oldies. Not too long afterward, 98.3 woke up, smelled the coffee, and switched back to a simulcast of the oldies on WTRY (980). I think it was a matter of weeks, if not a few months after that happened Don Crawford came into town, bought 96.7 and 1540 and changed them into his WDCD religious format. It'll be interesting to see how WPTR-FM will fare this time around if they attempt another oldies format > Several of those rimshot FMs around Albany are just > begging to be combined > into simulcasts to reach more of the market. > Galaxy's 93.7 and 94.5 come to > mind... THANK YOU!!! Ed Levine, are you listening? I thought, ever since the day 93.7 signed on the air, that it would become a simulcast with 94.5. WRCZ (94.5) covers the southern part of the market pretty well, but dies out about halfway through Saratoga County (Mechanicville to be exact), while 93.7 covers that very northern part of the market where 94.5's signal is weak. I am absolutely floored that Ed hasn't figured this out already and turned 93.7 into a 94 Rock simulcast, if he's that serious about competing with WPYX. Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY P.S - Hey Scott, how's things going with you and the family? Please reply off list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools From svc.nav@fireglass.com Wed Feb 25 16:09:40 2004 From: svc.nav@fireglass.com (svc.nav@fireglass.com) Date: Wed Feb 25 16:13:18 2004 Subject: Symantec Mail Security detected that you sent a message containing an executable file. (SYM:25745736510794213662) Message-ID: <003401c3fbe3$aed8af10$0801000a@fireglass.com> Subject of the message: oh Recipient of the message: Trevor Mitchell From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Feb 25 17:24:18 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Feb 25 17:24:39 2004 Subject: LTAR To Air TWICE On Sundays Message-ID: Bob Bittner announced on radio-info.com/Boston that "Let's Talk About Radio" will air TWICE each Sunday: 6:00 am and again at 11:00 am, all times Eastern. He indicated that this weekend will be the inaugural doppelganger broadcast, although the mighty 740 will be still at 5 watts then. (It goes F-U-L-L P-O-W-E-R at 6:00 am starting Monday.) I assume both will be the same show, so the need for a delayed airing of LTAR for those out-of-town for the weekend still isn't being met. Now if WJTO could carry it a week or two later as was once the case, true zealots wouldn't mind the ride to the coast. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billo@shoreham.net Wed Feb 25 21:20:23 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Feb 25 21:20:46 2004 Subject: Stern yanked by CC Message-ID: <003801c3fc0f$180c8ad0$0200a8c0@boneill> Drudge is reporting that CC's President/CEO John Hogan is scheduled to appear as a witness at the House Telecom Subcommittee on decency. Meanwhile, he's yanked Stern off of all CC stations. He won't air on Thursday. They claim Stern "blew right through" a line CC drew in the sand. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Wed Feb 25 21:30:26 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Feb 25 21:30:32 2004 Subject: Stern & CC Message-ID: <003901c3fc10$7ebf2c00$0200a8c0@boneill> Stern is carried (or not...) by CC in these markets: Fort Lauderdale and Orlando, Florida; Rochester, New York; Louisville, Kentucky; San Diego; and Pittsburgh. Bill O'Neill From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Feb 25 22:07:42 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Feb 25 22:06:07 2004 Subject: Stern yanked by CC In-Reply-To: <003801c3fc0f$180c8ad0$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040225220543.00a0d4f0@pop3.bit-net.com> Bill O'Neill wrote: >Drudge is reporting that CC's President/CEO John Hogan is scheduled to >appear as >a witness at the House Telecom Subcommittee on decency. Meanwhile, he's >yanked >Stern off of all CC stations. He won't air on Thursday. They claim Stern >"blew >right through" a line CC drew in the sand. Hard to imagine it, but compared to the now former Bubba the Love Sponge and others of his ilk like Mancow, Stern is pretty mild. Doesn't Mancow originate on a CC property too? From ssmyth@psu.edu Wed Feb 25 22:18:51 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed Feb 25 22:18:56 2004 Subject: Stern yanked by CC In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040225220543.00a0d4f0@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <000401c3fc17$422b57d0$59464742@Sean> Steve O. writes: > Hard to imagine it, but compared to the now former Bubba the > Love Sponge > and others of his ilk like Mancow, Stern is pretty mild. > Doesn't Mancow > originate on a CC property too? At this point Howard is rather tame; I don't think he's done an original bit in going on 10 years now. Mancow and Bubba (who, admittedly, I haven't heard since his evening days in Tampa 10 or so years ago) have definitely tried to go further (a la Opie and Anthony) but not done anywhere near as well. From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Feb 25 19:52:29 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Feb 25 22:37:42 2004 Subject: LTAR To Air TWICE On Sundays References: Message-ID: <001a01c3fc02$d39690a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Well, with a little extra effort, Bob could take a cue from WBUR, which airs several different versions of Car Talk each weekend. If Bob were to air the latest program at 11:00 and the previous program at 6:00, he would solve your problem--and maybe attract an additional audience of radio geeks who love old-fashoned gospel, with LTAR bookending 4-1/2 hours of old-time religion. I'd even be willing to start my occasional LTAR appearances with "Welcome brothers and sisters to program number xxx of Let's Talk About Radio. Can I hear an amen?" Ideas for an outro in a similar spirit aren't coming to me, but someone can probably suggest at least one. Dan Strassberg, Contributing Editor EDN Magazine | Reed Electronics Group | www.edn.com Fax 707-215-6367 | StrassbergEDN@att.net *** CONTACT ME BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO SEND ATTACHMENTS LARGER THAN 1 Mbyte *** ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurence Glavin To: Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:24 PM Subject: LTAR To Air TWICE On Sundays > Bob Bittner announced on radio-info.com/Boston that "Let's > Talk About Radio" will air TWICE each Sunday: > 6:00 am and again at 11:00 am, all times Eastern. > He indicated that this weekend will be the inaugural > doppelganger broadcast, although the mighty 740 will > be still at 5 watts then. (It goes F-U-L-L P-O-W-E-R > at 6:00 am starting Monday.) I assume both will be the same > show, so the need for a delayed airing of LTAR for those > out-of-town for the weekend still isn't being met. > Now if WJTO could carry it a week or two later as was > once the case, true zealots wouldn't mind the ride to the coast. > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 From kvahey@tmail.com Wed Feb 25 22:44:50 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed Feb 25 22:45:13 2004 Subject: Stern yanked by CC In-Reply-To: <000401c3fc17$422b57d0$59464742@Sean> References: <000401c3fc17$422b57d0$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <1077767093.31525945@r5.dngr.org> CC wins the Captain Renault award We're shocked...shocked by what Infinity/Viacom is selling us So tomorrow Howard blows a gasket and my hunch is leaps over the line. From ssmyth@psu.edu Wed Feb 25 22:40:03 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed Feb 25 23:04:21 2004 Subject: LTAR To Air TWICE On Sundays In-Reply-To: <001a01c3fc02$d39690a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <000601c3fc1a$38382a20$59464742@Sean> Dan writes: > I'd even be willing to > start my occasional LTAR appearances with "Welcome brothers > and sisters to program number xxx of Let's Talk About Radio. > Can I hear an amen?" Ideas for an outro in a similar spirit > aren't coming to me, but someone can probably suggest at least one. I nominate Reverend Harold Branch, long-time Sunday morning show host on the Mighty 740, to handle the intro duties...man, does the guy have a way of entertaining the audience! From ssmyth@psu.edu Wed Feb 25 23:06:16 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed Feb 25 23:06:19 2004 Subject: Bubba the Love Sponge gone Message-ID: <000701c3fc1d$e17e2e60$59464742@Sean> Maybe CC wasn't being too duplicitous by axing Stern's show on those aforementioned stations... >From a Wall Street Journal article I found online: "(Feb. 25) -- Bubba the Love Sponge was squeezed out of his job as host of a Tampa, Fla., radio talk show Tuesday by the station's owner, Clear Channel Communications Inc. He thus became the first notable casualty of a move to clean up the acts of the nation's shock jocks. "Bubba, whose real name is Todd Clem, has long been controversial. In January, the Federal Communications Commission proposed a $755,000 fine against Clear Channel for 26 alleged violations of indecency laws by Mr. Clem dating back to 2001." From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Feb 26 00:18:36 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Feb 26 00:18:44 2004 Subject: Bubba the Love Sponge gone In-Reply-To: <000701c3fc1d$e17e2e60$59464742@Sean> References: <000701c3fc1d$e17e2e60$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: At 11:06 PM -0500 2/25/04, Sean Smyth wrote: >Maybe CC wasn't being too duplicitous by axing Stern's show on those >aforementioned stations... 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Yes! -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Feb 26 17:34:46 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Feb 26 17:35:08 2004 Subject: Time For Jimmy Carter To Worry Message-ID: It's time for Jimmy Carter (no not THAT Jimmy Carter, the morning talk-show host on WTTT-AM 1150 Boston) to start worrying about his job. WTTT owner Salem Communications announced that rotund virtue-peddler Bill Bennett will be hosting a new talk show to be heard from 6:00 am till 9:00 am weekdays Eastern time. It doesn't seem logical that Salem would acquire the services of a Conservative, um, heavyweight, and eschew putting him on their talk outlet in Boston. Oh, and in other early drive time news, it appears that north shore powerhouse (?) WNSH-AM 1570 in Beverly has dropped Doug Stephan's show for a show called "Sunrise" or something like that. It used to be on WMVU/WOTW-AM 900 in Nashwah (that's how their jingle pronounced it.) Doug may be big in Montana or Arkansas, but he can't get any affiliates in his back yard! Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From paul@03038.com Thu Feb 26 18:32:28 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu Feb 26 18:30:28 2004 Subject: Time For Jimmy Carter To Worry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <005b01c3fcc0$d5ba90c0$0e87fea9@q0002> Actually, I've heard the Doug Stephan's show now on WKBR (1250 Manchester). They have dropped Imus in favor of local talk 6-9AM with Woody Woodland (formerly 9A-12N on WGIR, then Dan Pierce's back-up in PM) and some other folks, then the last hour of Doug Stephan from 9A-10A Then the go to Micheal ???? (Harrison? I'm having a brain cramp) from 10A-12N, then they carry Arnie Arneson from 12-3PM, and Sean Hannity from 3-6PM. -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Laurence Glavin Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 5:35 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Time For Jimmy Carter To Worry It's time for Jimmy Carter (no not THAT Jimmy Carter, the morning talk-show host on WTTT-AM 1150 Boston) to start worrying about his job. WTTT owner Salem Communications announced that rotund virtue-peddler Bill Bennett will be hosting a new talk show to be heard from 6:00 am till 9:00 am weekdays Eastern time. It doesn't seem logical that Salem would acquire the services of a Conservative, um, heavyweight, and eschew putting him on their talk outlet in Boston. Oh, and in other early drive time news, it appears that north shore powerhouse (?) WNSH-AM 1570 in Beverly has dropped Doug Stephan's show for a show called "Sunrise" or something like that. It used to be on WMVU/WOTW-AM 900 in Nashwah (that's how their jingle pronounced it.) Doug may be big in Montana or Arkansas, but he can't get any affiliates in his back yard! Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Feb 26 18:51:20 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu Feb 26 18:51:39 2004 Subject: Time For Jimmy Carter To Worry References: Message-ID: <000701c3fcc3$74bbe8c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Not so; for the last two or three weeks, Stephan has been on WBNW 1120 Concord and WPLM 1390 Plymouth from 4:00 AM until 8:00 AM. For a month or so before that, he was on those stations from 7:00 AM to 8:00 AM. Maybe you can't hear WBNW in Methuen because the station now seems to be running on night power and pattern at night, breaking a four (or so) year tradition of the sun never setting on Concord. Actually, with the deep null to the northeast in WBNW's day pattern (to protect 1110 in Salem NH), the Concord station's 1-kW night signal may actually be better in Methuen than its "5-kW" day signal. (I placed the 5 kW in quotes because the day pattern RMS is only twice the night RMS, indicating that if the night power is 1 kW, the day power is more like 4 kW.) WBNW's latest problem is seriously distorted audio, particularly at night. If WBNW isn't going to try for more night power (which may or may not be technically feasible, given all of the 1120 allocations in eastern Canada), the station ought to see if there is anything it can do about its audio processing. WBNW's audio is not very pleasant to listen to at night. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurence Glavin To: Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 5:34 PM Subject: Time For Jimmy Carter To Worry > It's time for Jimmy Carter (no not THAT Jimmy Carter, the morning talk-show host on WTTT-AM 1150 Boston) to > start worrying about his job. WTTT owner Salem Communications > announced that rotund virtue-peddler Bill Bennett will > be hosting a new talk show to be heard from 6:00 am till 9:00 am > weekdays Eastern time. It doesn't seem logical that Salem would > acquire the services of a Conservative, um, heavyweight, > and eschew putting him on their talk outlet in Boston. > Oh, and in other early drive time news, it appears that > north shore powerhouse (?) WNSH-AM 1570 in Beverly has > dropped Doug Stephan's show for a show called "Sunrise" > or something like that. It used to be on WMVU/WOTW-AM 900 > in Nashwah (that's how their jingle pronounced it.) > Doug may be big in Montana or Arkansas, but he can't > get any affiliates in his back yard! > > Laurence Glavin > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Feb 26 19:13:03 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Feb 26 19:13:09 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. Message-ID: <001901c3fcc6$77d41de0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Can someone explain to me the rationale for pulling Stern in 6 cities but not from all of the Clear Channel stations? If he doesn't fir their standards, why is he on any of their stations? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Feb 26 19:16:15 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Feb 26 19:16:41 2004 Subject: Time For Jimmy Carter To Worry References: Message-ID: <003a01c3fcc6$ea17ac50$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 5:34 PM Subject: Time For Jimmy Carter To Worry > WTTT owner Salem Communications > announced that rotund virtue-peddler Bill Bennett >It doesn't seem logical that Salem would > acquire the services of a Conservative, um, heavyweight, The latest from mental lightweight Laurence Glavin. Is there anyway to add an ignore feature to this list? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From scott@fybush.com Thu Feb 26 19:24:39 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Feb 26 19:18:54 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. In-Reply-To: <001901c3fcc6$77d41de0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040226192102.02f9d640@gwind.pair.com> At 07:13 PM 2/26/2004 -0500, Dan Billings wrote: >Can someone explain to me the rationale for pulling Stern in 6 cities but >not from all of the Clear Channel stations? If he doesn't fir their >standards, why is he on any of their stations? He's not. AFAIK, those were the only six CC stations that carried the show. Most of his affiliates are Infinity-owned, but there are a handful owned by others as well, such as Marlin (WCCC-FM Hartford), Citadel (WQXA-FM York PA), and a few others. s From jjlehmann@comcast.net Thu Feb 26 19:20:20 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Thu Feb 26 19:20:33 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. In-Reply-To: <001901c3fcc6$77d41de0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <003701c3fcc7$801b4c70$6400a8c0@AMD> Stern is/was only on 6 Clear Channel stations. Most of the stations he's on are owned by CBS/Infinity. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan Billings Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 7:13 PM To: Boston Radio Subject: Stern & C.C. Can someone explain to me the rationale for pulling Stern in 6 cities but not from all of the Clear Channel stations? If he doesn't fir their standards, why is he on any of their stations? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Feb 26 19:22:20 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Feb 26 19:22:27 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040226192102.02f9d640@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <004b01c3fcc7$c3c7ab80$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Dan Billings" ; "Boston Radio" Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 7:24 PM Subject: Re: Stern & C.C. > He's not. AFAIK, those were the only six CC stations that carried the show. > Most of his affiliates are Infinity-owned, That makes sense. I thought I read somewhere that he was still on CC stations in some cities. Thanks for the clarification. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billo@shoreham.net Thu Feb 26 19:48:31 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Feb 26 19:48:46 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040226192102.02f9d640@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <000401c3fccb$6c7bd000$0200a8c0@boneill> > He's not. AFAIK, those were the only six CC stations that > carried the show. > Most of his affiliates are Infinity-owned, but there are a > handful owned by > others as well, such as Marlin (WCCC-FM Hartford), Citadel > (WQXA-FM York > PA), and a few others. > > s So, what's the likelihood that CC will keep Stern off? If they do, what about Infinity O&Os in those markets that could pick him up? Bill O'Neill From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Feb 26 20:13:24 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Feb 26 20:11:48 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. In-Reply-To: <000401c3fccb$6c7bd000$0200a8c0@boneill> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040226192102.02f9d640@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040226201132.00a07ec0@pop3.bit-net.com> Bill O'Neill wrote: >So, what's the likelihood that CC will keep Stern off? If they do, what about >Infinity O&Os in those markets that could pick him up? My suspicion is that Infinity probably doesn't own anything with a compatable format in any of those markets in the first place. Otherwise why would they let a competitor have one of their "name" acts? "Howard Stern in the morning, soft EZ favorites all day" just doesn't have that ring to it. From scott@fybush.com Thu Feb 26 20:51:02 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Feb 26 20:45:16 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040226201132.00a07ec0@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <000401c3fccb$6c7bd000$0200a8c0@boneill> <5.1.0.14.0.20040226192102.02f9d640@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040226205024.02f9ac78@gwind.pair.com> At 08:13 PM 2/26/2004 -0500, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Bill O'Neill wrote: > >>So, what's the likelihood that CC will keep Stern off? If they do, what >>about >>Infinity O&Os in those markets that could pick him up? > > >My suspicion is that Infinity probably doesn't own anything with a >compatable format in any of those markets in the first place. Otherwise >why would they let a competitor have one of their "name" acts? "Howard >Stern in the morning, soft EZ favorites all day" just doesn't have that >ring to it. In most markets, that's true. But here in Rochester, I suspect Infinity's WZNE 94.1 will snatch up Stern if CC's WNVE drops him for good. s From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Feb 26 21:50:31 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Feb 26 21:50:35 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. In-Reply-To: <003701c3fcc7$801b4c70$6400a8c0@AMD> References: <001901c3fcc6$77d41de0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <003701c3fcc7$801b4c70$6400a8c0@AMD> Message-ID: <200402270250.i1R2oV3N098198@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Stern is/was only on 6 Clear Channel stations. Most of the stations he's > on are owned by CBS/Infinity. Which makes sense since he works for Infinity. What I *really* don't understand is why the CBS hourly news the other night made it sound as if CCU had `fired' Stern (which of course it can't do since he doesn't work for them). Surely someone who works for Stern's syndicator, in Stern's home market, not far from Stern's originating studios, should know better. -GAWollman From hmglaz@webtv.net Fri Feb 27 02:21:15 2004 From: hmglaz@webtv.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Fri Feb 27 02:21:25 2004 Subject: Bubba dumped by Clear Channel Message-ID: <25321-403EEFEB-4316@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> Kevin Vahey wrote: >St Pete Times story on Bubba being >?axed by all CC stations >It will be curious to see what XM and >?Sirrus do. Can't speak for Sirius, but I was listening to XM's "90s on 9" channel for about half an hour tonight and it was phone call after angry phone call, all blasting the FCC rather than Clear Channel, and requesting "shove it"-type songs like 2 Live Crew's "Banned In the USA" and Garth Brooks' live version (with "kiss my ass") of "Friends in Low Places," both of which were played. The DJ, a guy who goes by the air name of Kane, was encouraging the invective and even hinted that the programming bosses at XM were very interested in signing Bubba for an uncensored satellite show. I would think Sirius would have a better chance of landing him, though, should he find himself blacklisted by broadcast radio. XM is quite frugal, while Sirius, as shown by its recent deal with the NFL, is not afraid to spend money it doesn't yet have on big-ticket programming. Howard From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Feb 27 06:45:51 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Feb 27 06:44:15 2004 Subject: Bubba dumped by Clear Channel In-Reply-To: <25321-403EEFEB-4316@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040227063241.009f00f0@pop3.bit-net.com> Howard Glazer wrote: >Can't speak for Sirius, but I was listening to XM's "90s on 9" channel >for about half an hour tonight and it was phone call after angry phone >call, all blasting the FCC rather than Clear Channel, and requesting >"shove it"-type songs like 2 Live Crew's "Banned In the USA" and Garth >Brooks' live version (with "kiss my ass") of "Friends in Low Places," >both of which were played. The DJ, a guy who goes by the air name of >Kane, was encouraging the invective and even hinted that the programming >bosses at XM were very interested in signing Bubba for an uncensored >satellite show. Now THERE's an accurate indicator of public opinion!! I read somewhere long ago that at most 4 or 5% of your audience will EVER call a radio station, XM has what, maybe 1.25 million subscribers, with what percentage listening to that one particular channel? We're getting into a pretty small percentage of the public, and not a terribly representative one at that. I thought that XM was voicetracked anyway. How do you know these "calls" were even legit? For all you know they could be plants. >I would think Sirius would have a better chance of landing him, though, >should he find himself blacklisted by broadcast radio. XM is quite >frugal, while Sirius, as shown by its recent deal with the NFL, is not >afraid to spend money it doesn't yet have on big-ticket programming. Bubba is small potatoes, I think his show only aired on a handful of stations, most if not all of them in Florida. While one of the satellite services may go to an all shock-talk channel as a desperation move I wouldn't hold my breath. It's been a year and a half since Dopey and Anthony got canned at WNEW and they're still unemployed. From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Feb 27 07:22:09 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri Feb 27 07:22:15 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. References: <001901c3fcc6$77d41de0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><003701c3fcc7$801b4c70$6400a8c0@AMD> <200402270250.i1R2oV3N098198@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <000901c3fd2c$527b3360$6500a8c0@brianhome> > What I *really* don't understand is why the CBS hourly news the other > night made it sound as if CCU had `fired' Stern (which of course it > can't do since he doesn't work for them). You are forgetting the prime rule of the news industry: If it bleeds, it leads. Saying that Stern was suspended for bad language does not have the dramatic impact of a firing. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 75 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5626 USA Sales: (800)231-8849/Sales Fax (800)329-2775 Bus Ofc +1-978-538-7575/Business Ofc Fax +1-978-538-7550 www.cssinc.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Feb 27 07:27:03 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri Feb 27 07:27:07 2004 Subject: Fw: Bubba dumped by Clear Channel Message-ID: <006601c3fd2d$01f847b0$6500a8c0@brianhome> > I would think Sirius would have a better chance of landing him, though, > should he find himself blacklisted by broadcast radio. XM is quite > frugal, while Sirius, as shown by its recent deal with the NFL, is not > afraid to spend money it doesn't yet have on big-ticket programming. > The problem is that Sirius doesn't have the money to spend. Neither XM or Sirius are in positive cash flow mode yet and Sirius doesn't yet have the customer base that XM has (last time I looked XM was about 8:1 over Sirius). The other complication is that Clear Channel is a major investor in XM. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 75 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5626 USA Sales: (800)231-8849/Sales Fax (800)329-2775 Bus Ofc +1-978-538-7575/Business Ofc Fax +1-978-538-7550 www.cssinc.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Feb 27 07:32:40 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri Feb 27 07:32:44 2004 Subject: Bubba dumped by Clear Channel References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040227063241.009f00f0@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <006c01c3fd2d$ca76e110$6500a8c0@brianhome> > I thought that XM was voicetracked anyway. How do you know these "calls" > were even legit? For all you know they could be plants. > Certain channels and/or dayparts are voice tracked. Some are live. A friend of mine called the 60's channel a year ago for a request. They've used that drop of him for the last year. I can't remember the song but if you hear "Louis from Louisville" calling in a request, that's him - one year later. > > Bubba is small potatoes, I think his show only aired on a handful of > stations, most if not all of them in Florida. While one of the satellite > services may go to an all shock-talk channel as a desperation move I > wouldn't hold my breath. It's been a year and a half since Dopey and > Anthony got canned at WNEW and they're still unemployed. XM has a "ZOO" channel somewhere up in the comedy group (150's) right after the penis joke channel (151) that'd he'd probably end up on. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 75 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5626 USA Sales: (800)231-8849/Sales Fax (800)329-2775 Bus Ofc +1-978-538-7575/Business Ofc Fax +1-978-538-7550 www.cssinc.com From sid@wrko.com Fri Feb 27 07:46:14 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri Feb 27 07:47:18 2004 Subject: Bubba dumped by Clear Channel Message-ID: >>It's been a year and a half since Dopey and Anthony got canned at WNEW and they're still unemployed.<< They were not "canned" and they are not "unemployed." Their program was cancelled, but they are still on the Infinity payroll, per the terms of their employment contracts. Personally, I'd love to be lying around doing nothing, and making a tenth of what they make. Wouldn't bother me a bit. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From sven@gordsven.com Fri Feb 27 10:16:18 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Fri Feb 27 10:16:26 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. In-Reply-To: <200402270250.i1R2oV3N098198@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Garrett Wollman wrote: > What I *really* don't understand is why the CBS hourly news the other > night made it sound as if CCU had `fired' Stern (which of course it Maybe it's a case of clueless corporate drones. They don't take the time to even find out what other businesses their own employer is involved in. The proper way to announce this would be: "Radio station owner Clear Channel suspended carriage of the Howard Stern show over its radio stations." Somewhere in the story, mention that Stern is a product of Viacom, parent company of CBS and W Bla Bla Bla. How come the reporters at Bloomberg can do this when they mention something that tangentially involves their employer (so and so is a partner in Bloomberg LP, parent company of WBBR - or something to that effect). -- Sven Weil New York City From ssmyth@psu.edu Fri Feb 27 10:26:37 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri Feb 27 10:26:40 2004 Subject: Bubba dumped by Clear Channel Message-ID: <200402271526.KAA07530@webmail11.cac.psu.edu> On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 06:45:51 +0000, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > It's been a year and a half since Dopey and > Anthony got canned at WNEW and they're still unemployed. In fairness, they're still unemployed since they are still under contract with Infinity; Infinity "fired" them from WNEW but didn't release them from their contract. From kvahey@tmail.com Fri Feb 27 10:31:18 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri Feb 27 10:31:38 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1077895884.20A5E398@s5.dngr.org> If there wasn't another agenda here, CC could simply instruct each station to put Stern on a 7 second delay On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:21am, Sven Franklyn Weil wrote: > On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> What I *really* don't understand is why the CBS hourly news the other >> night made it sound as if CCU had `fired' Stern (which of course it > > > Maybe it's a case of clueless corporate drones. They don't take the > time > to even find out what other businesses their own employer is involved > in. > > The proper way to announce this would be: "Radio station owner Clear > Channel suspended carriage of the Howard Stern show over its radio > stations." Somewhere in the story, mention that Stern is a product of > Viacom, parent company of CBS and W Bla Bla Bla. > > How come the reporters at Bloomberg can do this when they mention > something that tangentially involves their employer (so and so is a > partner in Bloomberg LP, parent company of WBBR - or something to that > effect). > > -- > Sven Weil > New York City From billo@shoreham.net Fri Feb 27 10:31:22 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Feb 27 10:31:57 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001b01c3fd46$c1fcbcd0$0200a8c0@boneill> > How come the reporters at Bloomberg can do this when they mention > something that tangentially involves their employer (so and so is a > partner in Bloomberg LP, parent company of WBBR - or > something to that > effect). > > -- > Sven Weil > New York City Yes, they do that well. I heard Rush open his show the other day on the Stern issue. He described his show as involved with or syndicated by CC. He never came right out and said "Premier, a wholly owned subsidiary of Clear Channel...." Not sure why not since he was taking a stand in opposition. Later, Rush redefined by saying he did not consider this "censorship" by the government, but a "business decision" by a corporation. Drudge had posted Rush's early remarks that leaned govt censorship. There is a difference. My concern is the pressure govt is putting on CC and the odd timing of their decision to yank Stern. It's a weak attempt at capitulation. If Stern goes dark in those markets, and Viacom doesn't retool stations to fit Stern in AM drive, then it is a matter of time that Viacom O&Os will be pressured to follow suit. I'm no fan of Stern and his sensibilities but I defend his right to fill a market niche. Clearly, Stern has grown up over the years. His clones remind us that the Peter Principle is alive and well in this business and have mismatched the ammo in their weaponry. Bill O'Neill From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Feb 27 11:13:51 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Feb 27 11:13:54 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. In-Reply-To: References: <200402270250.i1R2oV3N098198@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <55522.216.204.15.170.1077898431.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Sven Weil wrote:> Maybe it's a case of clueless corporate drones. They don't take the > time to even find out what other businesses their own employer is > involved in. > > The proper way to announce this would be: "Radio station owner Clear > Channel suspended carriage of the Howard Stern show over its radio > stations." Somewhere in the story, mention that Stern is a product of > Viacom, parent company of CBS and W Bla Bla Bla. I think it's less "clueless corporate drones" than it is an attempt to spice up a story. Not the first time a story was blown out of proportion by the news media. From mamros@MIT.EDU Fri Feb 27 12:52:37 2004 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Fri Feb 27 12:52:45 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:31:18 EST." <1077895884.20A5E398@s5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <200402271752.i1RHqbDi021314@biohazard-cafe.mit.edu> >If there wasn't another agenda here, CC could simply instruct each >station to put Stern on a 7 second delay But that would require them to actually employ someone at each station to monitor the delay. I don't think speech recognition devices are quite good enough yet to fully automate the process... ;-) Technically, they could take the feed at one location, do the delay there and redistribute to their stations. But there's probably some language in the affiliate agreement with Infinity that would prevent redistribution that way. And, as you say, there is another agenda at work here anyways. -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros@mit.edu From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Feb 27 17:12:16 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Feb 27 17:12:40 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. Message-ID: >DATE: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:31:22 >From: "Bill O'Neill" >To: "'Sven Franklyn Weil'" >sven@gordsven.com>,"'Garrett Wollman'" >wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> >> How come the reporters at Bloomberg can do this when they mention >> something that tangentially involves their employer (so and so is a >> partner in Bloomberg LP, parent company of WBBR - or >> something to that >> effect). -- >> Sven Weil >> New York City > His clones remind us that the Peter Principle is alive and well in this >business and have mismatched the ammo in their weaponry. > >Bill O'Neill > That Bill...he submits puns even when he doesn't realize it! To bring up (in a manner of speaking) the "Peter Principle" with regard to potty-mouth talk-show hosts, may confuse those who are unfamiliar with the term. It was in a satire of management-speak I believe by a gentleman whose last name was Peter that the term "Peter Principle" first appeared. It meant that those who are promoted in their chosen field can display competence until they are promoted to the next-level and then become "incompetent". In a way it may not necessarily refer to an imitator of someone else, unless you assume that the imitator is not at the "competence" of the source. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Feb 27 19:34:33 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Feb 27 21:18:20 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. Message-ID: <200402271934.AA1555890482@mail.ttlc.net> > How come the reporters at Bloomberg can do this when they mention > something that tangentially involves their employer (so and so is a > partner in Bloomberg LP, parent company of WBBR - or > something to that effect). The day this story broke, on WBZ radio at the end of the story, the announcer said (and I'm paraphrasing here) "Howard Stern's show is distributed by Viacom, the company that owns this radio station." From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Feb 27 22:26:11 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri Feb 27 22:26:17 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. References: <200402271934.AA1555890482@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <002801c3fdaa$9d274510$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Interesting to hear Rush take the unpopular stand. His position was basically that the market should decide and that stations should not be pressured by Congress or the FCC to change programming. Imus also, sort of, spoke out against what has been happening. Have I missed something or has the mainstream media been largely silent on this issue? The Dixie Chicks get banned and everyone is in uproar, even though the government never pressured anyone to do so. Bubba and Stern get banned due to government threats and nobody cares. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From steveord@bit-net.com Sat Feb 28 07:11:40 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Feb 28 07:10:04 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. In-Reply-To: <002801c3fdaa$9d274510$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <200402271934.AA1555890482@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040228064841.009f6040@pop3.bit-net.com> Dan Billings wrote: >Interesting to hear Rush take the unpopular stand. His position was >basically that the market should decide and that stations should not be >pressured by Congress or the FCC to change programming. > >Imus also, sort of, spoke out against what has been happening. Don & Mike as well, though they seem to be carrying on just fine, and indeed seem to be having fun with it. As far as hosts being against it, I'd almost use the analogy of a spoiled brat kid who was able to get away with pretty much anything for years with no discipline or consequences. All of a sudden, the parents impose some rules that were long overdue. Of course the child is gonna chafe and complain because he's lost some of his "freedom". I see this as the same thing. As usual, there are the few who spoil it for everybody. Had the industry policed itself and kept jerks like Bubba, Mancow and others of that ilk in line this wouldn't have happened. Funny how the threat of something more severe than another slap-on-the-wrist fine finally got their attention. "Freedom of speech" is a bogus argument here. Do none of these guys have the talent or command of the English language to get their point across or be entertaining without being vulgar? >Have I missed something or has the mainstream media been largely silent on >this issue? > >The Dixie Chicks get banned and everyone is in uproar, even though the >government never pressured anyone to do so. Bubba and Stern get banned due >to government threats and nobody cares. The Dixie Chicks, as much as I cannot stand them did not make a career out of being obnoxious (style of music notwithstanding). Bubba and Stern did. My guess is that, politically incorrect as it is to say so, the general opinion is that this crackdown was long overdue. Maybe the "anything goes" pendulum is starting to swing the other way. If a porn shop or X-rated theatre opened up in your neighborhood what would be your reaction? BTW, Bubba and Stern did not get get "banned". Bubba got fired (again...look at his career...I think he's gotten fired from every gig he's ever had...and for the same reason every time), and CC cancelled Stern on 6 stations. Hardly "banning". Other stations are free ot pick up Stern or hire Bubba if they so wish. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Feb 28 07:28:24 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat Feb 28 07:28:30 2004 Subject: Stern & C.C. References: <200402271934.AA1555890482@mail.ttlc.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20040228064841.009f6040@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <003101c3fdf6$5c33b2e0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 7:11 AM Subject: Re: Stern & C.C. >As far as hosts being against it, > I'd almost use the analogy of a spoiled brat kid who was able to get away > with pretty much anything for years with no discipline or > consequences. I do not think that fits with Rush. Like him or not, he does not do stuff that is vulgar. >Had the industry policed itself > and kept jerks like Bubba, Mancow and others of that ilk in line this > wouldn't have happened. The industry loved the money that those people produced. Their listeners apparently enjoyed the shows. What's the problem? Stern and Bubba were doing exactly what they were hired to do. >"Freedom of > speech" is a bogus argument here. I would agree if this was not being done as a result of government pressure. > If a porn > shop or X-rated theatre opened up in your neighborhood what would be your > reaction? There is plenty of porn in everyone video store in America. > BTW, Bubba and Stern did not get "banned". Bubba got fired > (again...look at his career...I think he's gotten fired from every gig he's > ever had...and for the same reason every time), and CC cancelled Stern on 6 > stations. Hardly "banning". Other stations are free to pick up Stern or > hire Bubba if they so wish. The same was true of the Dixie Chicks. Only one company banned them and other stations continued to play them. But the media and some members of Congress where in an uproar as a result. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sat Feb 28 16:03:51 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sat Feb 28 16:03:59 2004 Subject: Channel 8 WMTW signal to return to far north NH (Colebrook) Message-ID: <20040228210351.91433.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> The Colebrook (NH) Chronicle has a jpeg of their current week front page that gives a hint of a (maybe) bigger story. http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/mainpage.html John East Derry NH ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Feb 28 16:54:57 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat Feb 28 16:55:04 2004 Subject: Channel 8 WMTW signal to return to far north NH (Colebrook) In-Reply-To: <20040228210351.91433.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040228210351.91433.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040228165216.0272b318@mail.mac.com> At 04:03 PM 2/28/2004, John Bolduc wrote: >The Colebrook (NH) Chronicle has a jpeg of their current week front page >that gives a hint of a (maybe) bigger story. > >http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/mainpage.html > My reaction is that they are probably not planning to move the transmitter again. My guess is that since WMUR and WMTW will now be co-owned, that WMUR will drop it's objection to WMTW being carried on cable systems in it's coverage area. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From kvahey@tmail.com Sat Feb 28 16:04:57 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat Feb 28 18:27:31 2004 Subject: Sox broadcast history Message-ID: <1078010835.96203C0@r31.dngr.org> Sox have compiled yet another list to be in the 2004 media guide. ( and Donna your name in credits ) What they going with now is First game 1925 WNAC Ben Alexander and Charles Donelan 1927 WNAC Gerry Harrison and Fred Hoey 1930 they say John Shepard did the Sox games himself and Hoey did the Braves and both were carried by either the Yankee or Colonial Network. First sponsors Kentucky Club pipe tobacco and Flying Red Horse gasoline (now Mobil) First TV was 1948 with Jim Britt and Tom Hussey on both 4 and 7 Bump Hadley on 4 and Leo Smith on 7. Of note, it mentions Fred Cusick doing Braves radio when there was a conflict. (Has anyone in Boston worked more years than Fred?) My surprise here is Sheppard being listed as an announcer in 1930. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Feb 29 00:43:20 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Feb 29 00:43:21 2004 Subject: Hubcap Network on WPTR Message-ID: <404135A8.1774.9FAC0E@localhost> I've been listening to the "Hubcap Network" oldies show on WPTR, and it seems that Kenneth "Hubcap" Carter died this morning in his sleep. The other DJs of the show are doing a tribute to him in between the records. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sun Feb 29 00:53:37 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sun Feb 29 00:53:46 2004 Subject: Hubcap Network on WPTR In-Reply-To: <404135A8.1774.9FAC0E@localhost> Message-ID: <002d01c3fe88$659a1530$6400a8c0@AMD> Wow, and this will be the last show you'll be able to hear. Monday, 1540 WPTR and 96.7 WDCD are swapping signals. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of A. Joseph Ross Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 12:43 AM To: Boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Hubcap Network on WPTR I've been listening to the "Hubcap Network" oldies show on WPTR, and it seems that Kenneth "Hubcap" Carter died this morning in his sleep. The other DJs of the show are doing a tribute to him in between the records. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From markwats@comcast.net Sun Feb 29 10:11:00 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Feb 29 10:09:31 2004 Subject: Good Time Oldies On WCCM Message-ID: <001301c3fed6$3db40410$64f88018@markscomputer> Saw an ad in today's Lowell Sun for WCCM (1490 Haverhill) that indicates that they are now playing "Good Time Oldies" Monday-Friday from 3PM to 5:30 AM. Unknown if it's a home grown or bird feed format. Previously, they were running ESPN sports talk these same hours, plus most of Saturday (save for a couple of local sports talk shows) and Sundays (after paid programming most of the day). Unknown if they're still running ESPN sports on the weekends. Mark Watson From billo@shoreham.net Sun Feb 29 13:00:25 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Feb 29 13:00:53 2004 Subject: Good Time Oldies On WCCM In-Reply-To: <001301c3fed6$3db40410$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <000001c3feed$e97180e0$0200a8c0@boneill> Mark writes: > Saw an ad in today's Lowell Sun for WCCM (1490 Haverhill) > that indicates > that they are now playing "Good Time Oldies" Monday-Friday > from 3PM to 5:30 > AM. Unknown if it's a home grown or bird feed format. Could it be? Did someone at Costa wake up with the word, "demo" on the brain? Bill O'Neill From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Feb 29 23:43:08 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Feb 29 23:42:58 2004 Subject: WPTR Message-ID: <4042790C.7243.4D9AB6@localhost> I've been listening to WPTR this evening, for the last time it seems. They've been running spots for the switch to FM. I wonder if the changeover will be at midnight. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Feb 29 23:43:08 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Feb 29 23:43:07 2004 Subject: LTAR Message-ID: <4042790C.4901.4D9A64@localhost> For the second week in a row today, Bob criticized CBS for running reruns of Jay Leno and Conan O'Brien late at night. Fine, but it's NBC, not CBS. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com