From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 15:26:08 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Apr 1 15:26:26 2004 Subject: Howie Carr gets his .com Message-ID: <20040401202608.18336.qmail@web60801.mail.yahoo.com> I haven't heard or read anything about why, but I found out that WRKO's Howie Carr Show now finally has the howiecarr.com domain name. Heard Howie give it out a few times and thought, "maybe he's mistakenly giving out the .com URL because they have .org..." But I find that, yes, howiecarr.com does now belong to Entercom Communications of Philadelphia. howiecarr.org apparently is registered through "Three Seas Management" and it gives 'RKO's old address (116 Huntington in Boston) and Howie's old mindspring.com email address. Entercom had settled on the ".org" domain name until they could get the .com, I guess. (Info through a WHOIS search which can be done at any domain name registrar.) Apparently a Salem resident with a company called 1918.com had registered the howiecarr.com domain name and put up a fan site. Entercom objected, perhaps saying H.C. is their intellectual (make jokes here) property, and they issued a cease-and-desist order. The man from 1918.com refused to give it up to them, saying he would have given them the domain name but since they treated him rudely, now he would not. (He had emailed me with that info when I asked about it before on this list.) But apparently it's been settled--wonder if he and Entercom came to an agreement? Or maybe Entercom went to the overseer of domain name registration (ICANN, I think) saying they had legal rights to the name howiecarr, etc. Who knows. Maybe Howie mentioned it on his show but I missed it. I guess howiecarr.net is available if anyone should want to do a fan site though perhaps Entercom would object to someone using that... From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Apr 1 15:33:36 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Apr 1 15:38:46 2004 Subject: Howie Carr gets his .com Message-ID: <200404012033.PAA00313@webmail4.cac.psu.edu> On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:26:08, Bob Nelson wrote: > But apparently it's been settled--wonder if he and > Entercom came to an agreement? Or maybe Entercom > went to the overseer of domain name registration > (ICANN, I think) saying they had legal rights to > the name howiecarr, etc. Who knows. Maybe Howie > mentioned it on his show but I missed it. The original domain holder also may have chosen not to renew the registration this time around. It's no use spending $70 or whatever it is to hold down a domain name you can't use for anything of note (without being sued by Entercom, that is), is it? From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Apr 1 16:26:36 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Apr 1 16:26:05 2004 Subject: Howie Carr gets his .com Message-ID: <200404011626.AA3967352874@mail.ttlc.net> "Sean Smyth" noted: >The original domain holder also may have chosen not to renew the >registration this time around. It's no use spending $70 or whatever >it is to hold down a domain name you can't use for anything of note >(without being sued by Entercom,that is), is it? Network Solutions may still charge $35/year, but a a fully accredited Registrar like GoDaddy.com charges domain name registration fees that typically run about $7.95/year. ($6.95 during April) Not money well spent if can't do anything at all with a domain name, but cheap enough to sit on it if you have future plans. From kvahey@tmail.com Thu Apr 1 19:43:18 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu Apr 1 19:43:54 2004 Subject: WQXR profile Message-ID: <1080866601.2935CF46@s29.dngr.org> The NY Daily News has an interesting history on WQXR that started as a TV station and became radio afterwards http://www.nydailynews.com/city_life/big_town/index.html From markwats@comcast.net Thu Apr 1 20:14:17 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Apr 1 20:12:14 2004 Subject: Portland Sea Dogs Radio Message-ID: <003901c4184f$d2187e00$64f88018@markscomputer> All Access reporting that WMTW-AM (870 Gorham ME) will once again be the flagship station this season for Portland Sea Dogs baseball, and that WMEX-FM (106.5 Farmington NH) becomes the 11th affiliate of the Sea Dogs radio network. Is anyone in the NH seacoast area an affiliate of the NH Fisher Cats radio network? Mark Watson From pete@partnercomm.com Thu Apr 1 21:10:53 2004 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Thu Apr 1 21:10:57 2004 Subject: WQXR profile In-Reply-To: <1080866601.2935CF46@s29.dngr.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Kevin Vahey wrote: > The NY Daily News has an interesting history on WQXR that started as a > TV station and became radio afterwards > > http://www.nydailynews.com/city_life/big_town/index.html I did not find it there - but here: http://www.nydailynews.com/07-15-2002/city_life/big_town/story/179243p-155809c.html -Peter Murray (in transition), Northern Virginia From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Fri Apr 2 12:55:34 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Apr 2 12:55:43 2004 Subject: radio April Fools pranks, of now and the past Message-ID: <20040402175534.65591.qmail@web60804.mail.yahoo.com> Yesterday on the WRKO morning show, the hosts pretended that the station had told them to become liberals (so I hear). April Fool. Also, the syndie Sean Hannity (WTKK locally) pretended to become a liberal, and many listeners did not get the joke. (Here in Boston we had a bit of a heads up as the joke was mentioned on Free Republic--and WTKK airs Hannity on a 7 hour tape delay.) In some markets, Hannity airs on a 1 hour tape delay so that even after he came clean, he was getting calls from enraged listeners. In the past: WILD played country instead of soul one Apr 1 morning. One year on April Fool's Day I tuned to WFNX and heard the DJ say, "No, we won't do any April Fool's jokes here, not me. We'll be right back with the new Beatles single right after this..." (This was _before_ The Fab 3 + the voice of John did "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love", of course) I think one year WMWM played a bunch of top 40 on April 1. True story: I was on WMWM one Sunday, April 1, and it came over the AP ticker that Marvin Gaye had been killed by his father. I went upstairs and told someone about it and they said I had to be joking--it was April Fool's Day after all. Then someone came in from another room saying, "Hey, I just heard on Kiss 108 that Marvin Gaye got shot to death..." Did the Blue Hills Volcano erupt again yesterday? (Howie Carr was mentioning that Ch 7 prank, and told of a woman who let her horses free, out of her barns so that the lava wouldn't harm them) From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Apr 2 15:45:45 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Apr 2 15:45:14 2004 Subject: radio April Fools pranks, of now and the past Message-ID: <200404021545.AA453247296@mail.ttlc.net> I think that Loren & Wally's Elvis sighting was the best I've heard. From kvahey@tmail.com Fri Apr 2 18:17:06 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri Apr 2 18:17:27 2004 Subject: April Fool's prank not funny to Mattingly's family Message-ID: <1080947829.14EDCD8E@r5.dngr.org> Another hoax in Indiana turned bad Memo to future DJs don't scare family members I do think Sterns stunt yesterday was the best. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1773893 From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Apr 2 18:23:01 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Apr 2 18:23:04 2004 Subject: April Fool's prank not funny to Mattingly's family In-Reply-To: <1080947829.14EDCD8E@r5.dngr.org> References: <1080947829.14EDCD8E@r5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <200404022323.i32NN12T063456@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Another hoax in Indiana turned bad > Memo to future DJs don't scare family members > I do think Sterns stunt yesterday was the best. You want to talk about it, rather than just obliquely referencing it? Why do you think it was ``the best''? -GAWollman From billo@shoreham.net Fri Apr 2 18:29:22 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Apr 2 18:29:30 2004 Subject: April Fool's prank not funny to Mattingly's family In-Reply-To: <1080947829.14EDCD8E@r5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <001e01c4190a$5475f340$0200a8c0@boneill> Kevin writes: > I do think Sterns stunt yesterday was the best. Nice to see a GM with a sense of humor, getting in on the prank. The reax was something of which the political wonks should take good notice. If Stern gets yanked, stoke up the barbie, and let the games begin. Bill O'Neill From kvahey@tmail.com Fri Apr 2 18:41:09 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri Apr 2 18:41:28 2004 Subject: April Fool's prank not funny to Mattingly's family In-Reply-To: <200404022323.i32NN12T063456@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <1080947829.14EDCD8E@r5.dngr.org> <200404022323.i32NN12T063456@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1080949279.D57DBA3@r31.dngr.org> Howard's stunt yesterday was perfect because even knowing it was April 1, with everything that has happened you really didn't know if Infinity had pulled the plug. His fight with Oprah will be fascinating to watch because he is 100% correct, there is a double standard being played. Now you haveGood Morning America and The View on a 5 second delay....are we seeing the end of live broadcasting? Of local interest, many believe if Kerry wins he will appoint Cong Markey to the FCC, perhaps as head. That would be interesting. On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 6:23pm, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < > said: > >> Another hoax in Indiana turned bad >> Memo to future DJs don't scare family members > > >> I do think Sterns stunt yesterday was the best. > > You want to talk about it, rather than just obliquely referencing it? > Why do you think it was ``the best''? > > -GAWollman From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Apr 2 19:13:15 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Apr 2 19:12:43 2004 Subject: April Fool's prank not funny to Mattingly's family Message-ID: <200404021913.AA1573004@mail.ttlc.net> >> -GAWollman queried: >> You want to talk about it, rather than just obliquely referencing it? >> Why do you think it was ``the best''? >Kevin Vahey replied: >Howard's stunt yesterday was perfect because even knowing it was April >1, with everything that has happened you really didn't know if >Infinity had pulled the plug. >His fight with Oprah will be fascinating to watch because he is 100% >correct, there is a double standard being played. I still haven't a clue as to what happened. Is there a more in-depth, detailed account of this event? Or is it an April Fool's Joke that nothing really happened? From kvahey@tmail.com Fri Apr 2 19:24:58 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri Apr 2 19:25:15 2004 Subject: April Fool's prank not funny to Mattingly's family In-Reply-To: <200404021913.AA1573004@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200404021913.AA1573004@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <1080951905.FCA529E@r5.dngr.org> NY Post story on Howard's April Fool's stunt on April 1, 2004. For over an hour there was a replacement show instead of him. http://nypost.com/entertainment/17963.htm > I still haven't a clue as to what happened. Is there a more in-depth, > detailed account of this event? Or is it an April Fool's Joke that > nothing really happened? From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Apr 3 12:56:23 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Apr 3 12:56:44 2004 Subject: April Fool's prank not funny to Mattingly's family Message-ID: >DATE: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 19:24:58 >From: Kevin Vahey >To: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net >NY Post story on Howard's April Fool's stunt on April 1, 2004. For over >an hour there was a replacement show instead of him. > >http://nypost.com/entertainment/17963.htm > > The real joke was on the advertisers. Will they get make-goods for the spots that ran during the stunt? Or will Viacom say that listeners stayed tuned to see what would happen? ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From kvahey@tmail.com Sat Apr 3 16:40:33 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat Apr 3 16:41:06 2004 Subject: Red Sox Radio enters Evil Empire Message-ID: <1081028437.2AA0B784@s5.dngr.org> The Red Sox radio network signs WGCH 1490 Greenwich CT to broadcast Sox games into Fairfield and Westchester ( and maybe a decent signal in the city?) From ssmyth@psu.edu Sat Apr 3 18:31:06 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat Apr 3 18:31:08 2004 Subject: Red Sox Radio enters Evil Empire In-Reply-To: <1081028437.2AA0B784@s5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <000001c419d3$bcc557a0$59464742@Sean> Kevin writes: > The Red Sox radio network signs WGCH 1490 Greenwich CT to > broadcast Sox > games into Fairfield and Westchester ( and maybe a decent > signal in the > city?) What are the current MLB limitations re: broadcasting games into other teams' territory? Could the Yankees and the Mets have reason to squak about this? From kvahey@tmail.com Sat Apr 3 18:36:28 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat Apr 3 18:36:42 2004 Subject: Red Sox Radio enters Evil Empire In-Reply-To: <000001c419d3$bcc557a0$59464742@Sean> References: <000001c419d3$bcc557a0$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <1081035392.339C1505@r31.dngr.org> Radio is fair game The Yankees for example broadcast on a station in Tampa MLB is more concerned with TV NESN is locked out of Fairfield County but can market in the rest of CT > What are the current MLB limitations re: broadcasting games into other > teams' territory? Could the Yankees and the Mets have reason to squak > about > this? From ssmyth@psu.edu Sat Apr 3 18:39:47 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat Apr 3 18:39:49 2004 Subject: Red Sox Radio enters Evil Empire In-Reply-To: <1081035392.339C1505@r31.dngr.org> Message-ID: <000101c419d4$f31669b0$59464742@Sean> Kevin writes: > Radio is fair game > The Yankees for example broadcast on a station in Tampa Surprised it's this way now. About 10 years ago the Angels got slapped with a fine for broadcasting games, in English, on a Mexican station that easily reached San Diego. > MLB is more concerned with TV NESN is locked out of Fairfield County Unless you have a dish. From ssmyth@psu.edu Sat Apr 3 22:55:43 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat Apr 3 22:55:46 2004 Subject: Translating coordinates to actual places Message-ID: <000201c419f8$b3d17910$59464742@Sean> For the non-technically inclined among us... is there a website out there that, if you plug in the coordinates from an application in the FCC database, can turn coordinates into the actual physical location (i.e. street address)? From scott@fybush.com Sat Apr 3 23:11:44 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat Apr 3 23:11:50 2004 Subject: Translating coordinates to actual places In-Reply-To: <000201c419f8$b3d17910$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040403230936.037718d0@gwind.pair.com> At 10:55 PM 4/3/2004 -0500, Sean Smyth wrote: >For the non-technically inclined among us... is there a website out there >that, if you plug in the coordinates from an application in the FCC >database, can turn coordinates into the actual physical location (i.e. >street address)? I use DeLorme's Street Atlas USA, which is not a website but is pretty decent software, and the huge advantage (to me at least) of using it is that it's compatible (*) with a pair of programs called TVFMSTNS and AMSTNS, which are viewers for the FCC database and can automatically dump data right into Street Atlas for my easy perusal. www.fccinfo.com will plot CDBS data against USGS topo maps, which is sometimes useful and sometimes not. (*) The newer versions of Street Atlas - anything past 9.0 - apparently are not compatible with these programs. I still use 9.0. s From madprof@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 4 00:32:06 2004 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (madprof) Date: Sun Apr 4 00:32:58 2004 Subject: Translating coordinates to actual places References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040403230936.037718d0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <005901c41a06$2ce5cc40$3f9ee541@p133> Topozone, the web site of USGS maps, is what I've had very good luck with. www.topozone.com top page shows "view maps" , click on that, it opens a page allowing several forms of input, including dd mm ss. Some plot do appear off, due to past inaccuracies in USGS maps (GPS updates are yet to come); many USGS maps are still last updated in the 70's. For low volume users, it is free. Another (probably no longer available) was Precision Mapping 2.0, based on the Census Bureau "Tiger" data base..... not a web site, but a CD pgm one loads into one's PC. I bought it in 1995, when it was Just Softworks, Inc, since has been bought out by www.chicagomap.com. I know the Tiger database has been updated since then, but never saw an update to Precision Mapping. And, as Scott said, DeLorme's Street Atlas USA. Delorme's Map & Go is no help; does not deal with coordinates. Bob / Madprof ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Smyth" ; Subject: Re: Translating coordinates to actual places > At 10:55 PM 4/3/2004 -0500, Sean Smyth wrote: > >For the non-technically inclined among us... is there a website out there > >that, if you plug in the coordinates from an application in the FCC > >database, can turn coordinates into the actual physical location (i.e. > >street address)? > From paul@03038.com Sun Apr 4 11:22:02 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sun Apr 4 11:19:13 2004 Subject: Red Sox Radio enters Evil Empire In-Reply-To: <1081035392.339C1505@r31.dngr.org> Message-ID: <004901c41a58$a4a2e680$0e87fea9@q0002> Let's not forget the Evil Empire's in Dover on WTSN and back in the Thurman Munson days they were on WSAR-Fall River MA I thought there was a "50 mile" rule, where Dover NH and Fall River MA are just beyond 50 miles fro Fenway. I would have thoguht Grennwich CT was WELL WITHIN 50 miles from Yanke Stadium... -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Kevin Vahey Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 6:36 PM To: Sean Smyth; Boston Radio Mailing List Subject: RE: Red Sox Radio enters Evil Empire Radio is fair game The Yankees for example broadcast on a station in Tampa MLB is more concerned with TV NESN is locked out of Fairfield County but can market in the rest of CT > What are the current MLB limitations re: broadcasting games into other > teams' territory? Could the Yankees and the Mets have reason to squak > about > this? From ssmyth@psu.edu Sun Apr 4 11:30:45 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun Apr 4 11:30:48 2004 Subject: Red Sox Radio enters Evil Empire In-Reply-To: <004901c41a58$a4a2e680$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <000501c41a59$cca407d0$59464742@Sean> Paul writes: > I thought there was a "50 mile" rule, where Dover NH and Fall > River MA are just beyond 50 miles fro Fenway. I would have > thoguht Grennwich CT was WELL WITHIN 50 miles from Yanke Stadium... You are correct. A distance search shows it is 17 air miles from WGCH's transmitter site to Bronx County. From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sun Apr 4 11:32:07 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sun Apr 4 11:32:03 2004 Subject: Red Sox Radio enters Evil Empire In-Reply-To: <004901c41a58$a4a2e680$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <009601c41a5a$00b5cdb0$6400a8c0@AMD> 1310 WORC in Worcester carried the Evil Empire last year. That's within 50 miles of Fenway. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hopfgarten Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 11:22 AM To: 'Kevin Vahey'; 'Sean Smyth'; 'Boston Radio Mailing List' Subject: ** SPAM ** RE: Red Sox Radio enters Evil Empire Let's not forget the Evil Empire's in Dover on WTSN and back in the Thurman Munson days they were on WSAR-Fall River MA I thought there was a "50 mile" rule, where Dover NH and Fall River MA are just beyond 50 miles fro Fenway. I would have thoguht Grennwich CT was WELL WITHIN 50 miles from Yanke Stadium... -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Kevin Vahey Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 6:36 PM To: Sean Smyth; Boston Radio Mailing List Subject: RE: Red Sox Radio enters Evil Empire Radio is fair game The Yankees for example broadcast on a station in Tampa MLB is more concerned with TV NESN is locked out of Fairfield County but can market in the rest of CT > What are the current MLB limitations re: broadcasting games into other > teams' territory? Could the Yankees and the Mets have reason to squak > about > this? From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Apr 4 14:00:35 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Apr 4 14:00:49 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in BS Marketwatch Message-ID: Those of you who heard today's (04/04) first-run of LTAR heard Bob mention that Donna Halper will be co-host of next week's show. But if you can't wait until then for your DH fix, she's quoted in a CBS Marketwatch item on the Bob Edwards NPR improglio. I couldn't get the extended URL to work, so YOU people will have to do a little work, but it's worth it. Here's the Home Page URL - http://cbs.marketwatch.com Scroll a short distance down to the links for 'MEDIA'... then click on the story titled "Commercial stations don't try to match NPR" I don't know how long this story will remain on CBS Marketwatch, so do it now! Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Apr 4 15:02:20 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Apr 4 15:02:49 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in BS Marketwatch Message-ID: >DATE: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 14:00:35 >From: "Laurence Glavin" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Oops...I accidentally entitled this post "Donna Quoted in BS Marketwatch". Obviously, it should have read "Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch". This was an unintentional error, although many here may agree with the former title. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Apr 4 15:20:49 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Apr 4 15:20:55 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in BS Marketwatch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040404151935.02819600@pop.registeredsite.com> >you wrote-- >Oops...I accidentally entitled this post "Donna Quoted >in BS Marketwatch". Obviously, it should have read >"Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch". This was an unintentional >error, although many here may agree with the former title. I hope you don't think *I* am disseminating BS. :) As for the article, I have a copy for anyone who can't find it on-line. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Apr 4 17:05:24 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Apr 4 17:06:11 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in BS Marketwatch References: Message-ID: <001601c41a88$95bd44a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> The only reference I could find to "Media" on the page to which you furnished a link required me to register, which necessitated giving Viacom my life history. After being honored with "provisional registration" (good for 15 days) but probably with Spam for Life, I was taken to a Web page that contained a story about radio but no reference to NPR or Edwards. (I checked using the browser's "Find on this page" feature; it found nothing.) My advice to other list members is not to bother following Laurence's link. It's a time sink and it does not lead to the promised information. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurence Glavin To: Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 2:00 PM Subject: Donna Quoted in BS Marketwatch > Those of you who heard today's (04/04) first-run of > LTAR heard Bob mention that Donna Halper will be > co-host of next week's show. But if you can't wait until > then for your DH fix, she's quoted in a CBS Marketwatch > item on the Bob Edwards NPR improglio. I couldn't get > the extended URL to work, so YOU people will have to do > a little work, but it's worth it. Here's the Home Page > URL - > > http://cbs.marketwatch.com > > Scroll a short distance down to the links for 'MEDIA'... > then click on the story titled "Commercial stations don't > try to match NPR" > > I don't know how long this story will remain on CBS Marketwatch, so > do it now! > > Laurence Glavin > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Apr 4 17:35:32 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Apr 4 17:35:39 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch In-Reply-To: <001601c41a88$95bd44a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040404173356.02836da8@pop.registeredsite.com> With thanks to the author, by whose kind permission this is quoted. "Morning Edition's captive audience" Bob Edwards flap points up traditional radio's problems By David B. Wilkerson, CBS.MarketWatch.com April 3, 2004 SAN FRANCISCO (CBS.MW) -- Amid all the furor surrounding National Public Radio's treatment of Bob Edwards, the situation also says quite a bit about commercial radio's inability -- or unwillingness -- to provide the kind of in-depth news and analysis that could attract "Morning Edition" listeners looking for an alternative during morning drive time. After all, the NPR listener base is well-educated and relatively affluent, and should certainly be attractive to advertisers. More than 13 million tune in to "Morning Edition" each weekday. Yet, commercial radio is not structured to lure some of those people away. "I wonder if the NPR people have decided, 'We won't lose anybody [from 'Morning Edition'], because, where are they going to go?'" said Donna Halper, a Boston-based radio programming consultant and broadcasting historian. NPR said last week that Edwards, 56, who has hosted the show since its debut in 1979, would be ousted from that post in May. Edwards, who said he was surprised by the move, has accepted the role of senior correspondent at the network. Listeners have deluged NPR with complaints, and a Web site called Savebobedwards.com has garnered nearly 14,000 signatures as of late Friday evening. NPR's commercial news competition The only formats that offer regular news on commercial radio are all-news stations like 1010 WINS in New York or WWJ in Detroit, or news-talk stations, which feature hosts like Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage. "Morning Edition" listeners are looking for a mix of political and cultural news, with stories that can last four minutes or more, told with nuance, or even wit. "Commercial radio, especially in the morning -- its bread-and-butter period -- cannot do a 10-minute news story, because they have commercials that they have to break to every two to three minutes," said Michael Keith, adjunct associate professor of communication at Boston College. "So the kind of depth and substance and detail that you can get on an NPR news program is pretty hard to replicate on the commercial end," Keith said. Could the news-talk or all-news formats be tweaked to provide at least some of the "Morning Edition" vibe, even as an experiment? Maybe stories couldn't be six minutes long, but the coverage could be eclectic, erudite, fun. Keith doesn't see it happening. "For commercial stations that are having success, why would they make room for it?" Deregulation's role Local commercial stations might find ways to do news stories that are innovative enough to provide competition for "Morning Edition's" audience, but two regulatory developments of the last 20 years make this impractical for most of them, experts said. In 1985, the Republican-led Federal Communications Commission eliminated the Fairness Doctrine. The Fairness Doctrine stipulated: 1) that a broadcast station had to set aside a certain amount of airtime for issues of vital concern to the local community; and 2) that it had to provide a forum for a diverse range of opinions. The commission decided that the rule was no longer serving the public interest. An attempt to legislate the Fairness Doctrine into law was vetoed by President Reagan, and there weren't enough votes in Congress to override. President George H.W. Bush subsequently vetoed a similar attempt. "Doing radio news is more than just ripping and reading from a wire. It's very expensive to produce," said Dwight DeWerth-Pallmeyer, director of communication studies at Widener University in Chester, Pa. "That's why after deregulation ... commercial stations eliminated their news operations, in many cases wholesale. Just completely gave it up. "Because if you no longer had to do it," DeWerth-Pallmeyer added, "in terms of the public interest [requirements] ... then why would you do it? It was seen as something that just cost an enormous amount to do, and didn't offer enough in return." The situation was further eroded, some say, by The Telecommunications Act of 1996, which lifted long-standing restrictions on the number of radio stations a company could own in a given market. It enabled a broadcaster like Clear Channel Communications (CCU: news, chart, profile) to amass more than 1,200 stations, and aided other big firms such as Viacom's (VIA.B: news, chart, profile) (VIA: news, chart, profile) Infinity Broadcasting, Emmis Communications (EMMS: news, chart, profile) and Cox Radio (CXR: news, chart, profile). (Viacom is a significant shareholder in MarketWatch.com, the publisher of this report.) These massive station clusters are served by giant radio networks owned by many of these same conglomerates. Consultant Donna Halper says this has led to the homogenization of talk stations. "The local talk show host is a dying breed," said Halper, "not because he or she isn't performing a service, but because for the conglomerates, it's just easier to syndicate Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and 17 others, and then you don't have to hire anybody live and local." Opportunity for Air America? Air America, the new "liberal" radio network headlined by comedian Al Franken, could be one alternative for some of Bob Edwards' fans; indeed, the network tweaks NPR with a show called "Morning Sedition" in the 6-9 a.m. slot, hosted by talk veteran Mark Riley, comedian Marc Maron and journalist Sue Ellicott. Franken's "The O'Franken Factor," a reference to his feud with Fox News Channel host Bill O' Reilly, airs from noon to 3 p.m. Air America is certainly not trying to imitate NPR. On Thursday, afternoon drive host Randi Rhodes had a heated exchange with Green Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader. Reacting to a poll showing that Nader could draw enough of the liberal vote to help President Bush defeat Democratic candidate John Kerry, Rhodes told Nader the U.S. can't afford to have him run for president. Nader hung up on her. It was the kind of confrontation that would be right at home on Michael Savage's show, but unthinkable on NPR's afternoon drive program, "All Things Considered." Air America is trying to be for left-wing and moderate listeners what Rush Limbaugh is to conservatives, DeWerth-Pallmeyer says. "The political atmosphere right now is set up for that liberal network, because there's so much to talk about with Bush right now," he said. "It was like Rush dealing with Clinton. There was a lot to talk about. Remember, talk's a lot cheaper to produce than news -- you have a guy read the New York Times, and get on the air." Halper says Air America might be a potent voice in the radio spectrum, but that for now, its over-the-air distribution on five radio stations -- including stations in the top three U.S. markets of New York, Los Angeles and Chicago -- is too small to make an impact (It will soon add a San Francisco station). "The vast majority of the right wing talk show hosts are syndicated everywhere," Halper said. "And so if you want to start a new network -- and I don't care what your point of view is -- it's going to be tough to find places that will take you on. Because there just aren't a lot of openings." Air America is also heard on XM Satellite Radio (XMSR: news, chart, profile), which has a fast-growing customer base of 1.68 million subscribers to its digital service. The company projects that it will have 2.8 million subscribers by the end of this year. In addition to Air America, XM also carries The Power, a talk channel targeted at African-Americans produced in conjunction with Radio One (ROIAK: news, chart, profile); Family Talk (in association with Christian programming specialist Salem Communications (SALM: news, chart, profile); and other news or talk channels. XM is watching the "Morning Edition" situation, but has not announced any plans to directly imitate that or any other NPR show. "Bob Edwards is a talented guy with a great reputation, and NPR is headquartered in Washington with us, so we're obviously aware of what happened," said Chance Patterson, an XM spokesman. "But I think it's too early to tell how much impact [Edwards' departure] will have on the listeners." XM's rival, Sirius Satellite Radio (SIRI: news, chart, profile), carries NPR and Public Radio International, along with other talk programming. For listeners who do defect from "Morning Edition" next month, the most likely scenario is that many will drift to another public radio station in the market, perhaps a PRI outlet. Whether commercial radio will ever find a way to appeal to that kind of person remains to be seen. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Apr 4 17:53:01 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Apr 4 17:53:05 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040404173356.02836da8@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <000b01c41a8f$339e3bb0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Dan Strassberg" Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch > SAN FRANCISCO (CBS.MW) -- Amid all the furor surrounding National Public > Radio's treatment of Bob Edwards, the situation also says quite a bit about > commercial radio's inability -- or unwillingness -- to provide the kind of > in-depth news and analysis that could attract "Morning Edition" listeners > looking for an alternative during morning drive time. Typical. NPR can't be criticized so commercial radio must be to blame for Edwards' ouster. In recognition of the FCC's crack down on indecency, I will refrain from saying what I really think of this spin on the story and use the less offensive term of journalistic malpractice. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Apr 4 17:57:44 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Apr 4 17:57:48 2004 Subject: Maine Public Radio fundraising Message-ID: <001101c41a8f$dc240490$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Maine Public Radio did one of its on-air beg-a-thon last week. It was apparent thing weren't going well on Thursday morning when they weren't close to half way to their goals for pledges or money. As a result, the fundraising breaks just got longer and longer. I was in the car on Thursday afternoon and they did a fundraising pitch that went from 5:20 until 5:45. Whenever I tuned in on Friday, they were begging. Is this tactic typical or just a result of obvious shortfalls in fundraising? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Apr 4 18:26:18 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Apr 4 18:26:20 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch In-Reply-To: <000b01c41a8f$339e3bb0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040404173356.02836da8@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040404182423.028250d0@pop.registeredsite.com> >Dan B wrote-- >Typical. NPR can't be criticized so commercial radio must be to blame for >Edwards' ouster. In recognition of the FCC's crack down on indecency, I >will refrain from saying what I really think of this spin on the story and >use the less offensive term of journalistic malpractice. Hey I didn't write it, and I think all the author was trying to do was say there are increasingly fewer intelligent choices, be they from the right or from the left, for people to listen to. Lots of ranters, lots of screamers, but not a lot of people like let's say David Brudnoy, or Bob Edwards. (Btw, the CBS media watch column actually tends to be rather conservative, if you've read past editions...) From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Apr 4 18:34:07 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Apr 4 18:34:10 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040404173356.02836da8@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040404182423.028250d0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <003101c41a94$f10cb3c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Dan Billings" Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch > Hey I didn't write it, I know. and I think all the author was trying to do was say > there are increasingly fewer intelligent choices, be they from the right or > from the left, for people to listen to. That story could be written without linking it to the Edwards story. NPR gets some bad p.r. so a media reporter says "hey, let's change the subject back to our usual bashing of commercial radio." A better story would have looked at how NPR is under all the same commercial pressures as commercial radio and has done as much to homogenize radio across the country as Clear Channel. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billo@shoreham.net Sun Apr 4 18:55:30 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Apr 4 18:55:35 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch In-Reply-To: <003101c41a94$f10cb3c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000201c41a97$ee87d640$0200a8c0@boneill> > A better story would have looked at how NPR is under all the > same commercial > pressures as commercial radio and has done as much to homogenize radio > across the country as Clear Channel. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine I noted in the story that it seemed to fork early in the piece and by the end I was left wanting to know more of what NPR was thinking when they tanked the 25 year veteran of the program. Is it Edwards' age-demo? Was his contract up and he wanted too much cash (doubtful)? Who is in the wings? My Morning Edition listening has waxed and waned over the years but the giggly jubulence is undeniable whenever they are taking a shot on the conservative's goal. For balance, it's not too different from Fox & Friends' approach to taking on the left, but a lowly rated morning cable show versus a heritage network staple are two very different offerings. I'll miss Edwards' and his, "This is morning EDITION......I'm Bob Edwards." Bill O'Neill From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Apr 5 01:04:54 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Apr 5 01:04:51 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch In-Reply-To: <000b01c41a8f$339e3bb0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <4070B0B6.7238.BF761A@localhost> What I don't understand is, why can't commercial radio news do a six-minute news story with a commercial break after the first three? Television breaks for commercials during a story. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Apr 5 16:43:36 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Apr 5 16:43:56 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch Message-ID: >DATE: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 01:04:54 >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: "Donna Halper" ,"Dan >Billings" >What I don't understand is, why can't commercial radio news do a six-minute news story >with a commercial break after the first three? Television breaks for commercials during a >story. > >-- >A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com >Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > WBZ-AM is a good example of doing both: their news stories are about a minute-and-a-half, but from time to time one of their contributors like Peter Meade will be allowed to go on for longer, either as a part of a Q&A session or for a long disquisition (like this sentence). Also breaking news, either from CBS/ABC or a reporter in the field can go longer also. News/talk stations, whether AM or FM, are just as likely as stations that play recordings to do a rip-and-read style 'cast; it's just that the news/talkers come out of the news and then pick a subject, or as Howie Carr always puts it, a topic to carry a half-hour or hour. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Apr 5 16:48:27 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Apr 5 16:48:54 2004 Subject: Maine Public Radio fundraising Message-ID: >DATE: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 17:57:44 >From: "Dan Billings" >To: "Boston Radio" interest@bostonradio.org> Cc: >Maine Public Radio did one of its on-air beg-a-thon last week. It was >apparent thing weren't going well on Thursday morning when they weren't >close to half way to their goals for pledges or money. As a result, the >fundraising breaks just got longer and longer. I was in the car on Thursday >afternoon and they did a fundraising pitch that went from 5:20 until 5:45. >Whenever I tuned in on Friday, they were begging. > >Is this tactic typical or just a result of obvious shortfalls in >fundraising? > >-- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > Is Maine Public TELEVISION also doing fund raising? Sometimes if TWO listener/viewer supported entities are in mendicant mode, there just may not be enough $$$$ to go around. Where I live, in recent days WGBH/WGBX-TV, WBUR, WEVO and WERS are running or have run beg-a-thons. 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He did both regular talk shows and sports here; I believe sports was his bailiwick in Cheesesteakland. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From scott@fybush.com Mon Apr 5 17:55:43 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Apr 5 17:55:47 2004 Subject: WMUR 50th Anniversary repeat Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040405175441.036ce160@gwind.pair.com> I'm told that the WMUR 50th anniversary special will re-air this coming Saturday (4/10) from 12:30-3 PM. And since I'm a wee bit outside the WMUR coverage area...is there anyone within WMUR range who might be willing to tape it for me? I'm happy to reimburse for tape and shipping costs and a bit extra, or to trade material from my collection. Thanks in advance! s From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Apr 5 21:19:55 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon Apr 5 21:20:00 2004 Subject: Maine Public Radio fundraising References: Message-ID: <000d01c41b75$44e52cd0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Boston Radio" ; "Dan Billings" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Maine Public Radio fundraising > Is Maine Public TELEVISION also doing fund raising? TV's beg-a-thon was a week earlier. From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Apr 5 21:38:54 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon Apr 5 21:39:01 2004 Subject: Maine Public Radio fundraising References: Message-ID: <002001c41b77$ebe2bd20$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> By the way, Maine Public Radio extended their beg-a-thon by a day and made their goals on Saturday afternoon. I think listeners decided that they would not stop until they got the money. From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Apr 5 21:51:23 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon Apr 5 21:51:30 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch References: <4070B0B6.7238.BF761A@localhost> Message-ID: <003201c41b79$aa5a3d90$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Donna Halper" ; "Dan Billings" Cc: Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 1:04 AM Subject: Re: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch > What I don't understand is, why can't commercial radio news do a six-minute news story > with a commercial break after the first three? Television breaks for commercials during a > story. Commercial news stations provide a headline service for people who tune in for a short time to get the headlines, sports, traffic, and weather. People do not tune in for 6 minute stories and do not want six minute stories. TV only breaks for commercials during continuing coverage of an event, not during a story on the evening news. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Apr 5 22:07:16 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Apr 5 22:06:41 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch Message-ID: <200404052207.AA1425735960@mail.ttlc.net> "Dan Billings" said: >Commercial news stations provide a headline service for people who >tune in for a short time to get the headlines, sports, traffic, and >weather. People do not tune in for 6 minute stories and do not want >six minute stories. You make it seem as if people would only tune to a non-commercial station for 6-minte stories, but tune to commercial stations only for short ones. Are people's expectations driven by the commerciality of a broadcast outlet? From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Apr 5 22:24:56 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon Apr 5 22:24:58 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch References: <200404052207.AA1425735960@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <003a01c41b7e$5a14fa50$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rogerkirk" To: "Dan Billings" Cc: "BRI" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:07 PM Subject: Re: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch > "Dan Billings" said: > >Commercial news stations provide a headline service for people who > >tune in for a short time to get the headlines, sports, traffic, and > >weather. People do not tune in for 6 minute stories and do not want > >six minute stories. > > You make it seem as if people would only tune to a non-commercial station for 6-minte stories, but tune to commercial stations only for short ones. > > Are people's expectations driven by the commerciality of a broadcast outlet? NPR exists. There is no need and no market for a second NPR. NPR's news programs do well in the ratings because they are unique. Is the audience for that kind of programming large enough to be commercially viable if fragmented? I don't think so. The commercial nature of the station does make a difference. How many minutes of underwriting doe comercial stations run per hour? 2 or 3? How many commercial units do commercial stations run? 12 to 16? More? How many 6 minute stories can you run with that many commercials? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Apr 5 23:33:26 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon Apr 5 23:33:33 2004 Subject: Maine Public Radio fundraising In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 4:48 PM -0400 4/5/04, Laurence Glavin wrote: >Where I live, in recent days WGBH/WGBX-TV, >WBUR, WEVO and WERS are running or have run beg-a-thons. You can add WUMB to that list. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Apr 5 23:34:34 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Apr 5 23:34:37 2004 Subject: Maine Public Radio fundraising In-Reply-To: <002001c41b77$ebe2bd20$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <002001c41b77$ebe2bd20$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <200404060334.i363YYp4002980@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > By the way, Maine Public Radio extended their beg-a-thon by a day and made > their goals on Saturday afternoon. I think listeners decided that they > would not stop until they got the money. Did they really extend the fundraiser, or did they ``extend'' it? -GAWollman (me? cynical?) From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Apr 5 23:41:08 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon Apr 5 23:41:14 2004 Subject: Maine Public Radio fundraising References: <002001c41b77$ebe2bd20$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <200404060334.i363YYp4002980@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <004201c41b88$ff91bd60$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Dan Billings" Cc: "Boston Radio" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:34 PM Subject: Re: Maine Public Radio fundraising > Did they really extend the fundraiser, or did they ``extend'' it? > > -GAWollman > (me? cynical?) >From listening some on Thursday and Friday, I think the extension was legitimate. The on-air talent sounded pretty desperate on Thursday and Friday. Their frustration with the lack of progress was hard to hide. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Apr 5 23:42:40 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Apr 5 23:42:44 2004 Subject: Maine Public Radio fundraising In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200404060342.i363gefU003022@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > At 4:48 PM -0400 4/5/04, Laurence Glavin wrote: >> Where I live, in recent days WGBH/WGBX-TV, >> WBUR, WEVO and WERS are running or have run beg-a-thons. > You can add WUMB to that list. At least as far as the big noncomm networks go, since they blow off their regular programming schedules, it's something of a given that all the affiliates of a particular network would be doing fund-raising at the same time. I suspect in a market like Boston this does result in some level of ``donor fatigue''. On the other hand, perhaps it would be much worse to have every week of every month be some public station's fund drive, at least for people who listen to more than one! -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Apr 5 23:52:41 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Apr 5 23:52:44 2004 Subject: Dan takes one for the team! (was: Re: Maine Public Radio fundraising) In-Reply-To: <004201c41b88$ff91bd60$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <002001c41b77$ebe2bd20$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <200404060334.i363YYp4002980@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <004201c41b88$ff91bd60$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <200404060352.i363qfc9003081@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > From listening some on Thursday and Friday, I think the extension was > legitimate. The on-air talent sounded pretty desperate on Thursday and > Friday. Their frustration with the lack of progress was hard to hide. I must admit that I find these sorts of fund-raisers (whether positioned as a ``pledge drive'' to support a station or a feel-good ``telethon'' on a commercial station) to be utterly un[watch|listen]able. That's one reason I make a practice of restricting my donations to periods in which the stations are not begging. Usually the sorry excuse for programming (particularly in the case of the public TVs) makes me feel even less inclined to donate during those times. (No, no matter how many times they play ``Over New England'' or the Village People Reunion Tour, I still won't give them any more money and I don't want to see what money I do give going to put crap like that on the air in the first place.) I'd like to see stations adopt the ``rolling fund drive''. Instead of blowing up the schedule to make way for extended begging, just take a few funder avails every day to run a prerecorded promo inviting people to donate if they want to support the program they're listening to. (I expect the management of these stations to respond with the same tired old saw as we get from commercial station management about how some new idea (format) can Never Possibly Work because if it could Someone Else would have tried it already, and if it had succeeded then the entire community (industry), lemming-like, would already be doing it.) -GAWollman From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Apr 6 00:00:16 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Tue Apr 6 00:00:20 2004 Subject: Dan takes one for the team! (was: Re: Maine Public Radio fundraising) References: <002001c41b77$ebe2bd20$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><200404060334.i363YYp4002980@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu><004201c41b88$ff91bd60$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <200404060352.i363qfc9003081@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <004d01c41b8b$abe2fb40$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> It was like watching a car wreck -- I couldn't tune away. I was also fascinated to fund out how long the break would last. It went 25 minutes. Maine Public Radio starts out the week with breaks from :20 to :30 and :50 to :60 during Morning Edition and All Things Considered. I don't find that objectionable. It doesn't blow up the programming. By mid to late week, they are blowing through the top of the hour. Public TV is downright weird. They change their whole format for fundraising. None of their regular shows are aired and they start running Grateful Dead concerts. If PBS is TV worth watching, why is it different during pledge weeks? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Apr 6 01:33:53 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Apr 6 01:33:46 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch In-Reply-To: <003201c41b79$aa5a3d90$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <40720901.32103.4E184E@localhost> On 5 Apr 2004 at 21:51, Dan Billings wrote: > TV only breaks for commercials during continuing coverage of an event, not > during a story on the evening news. Right, but during programs like "60 minutes," they will sometimes break for a commercial and then return to the same story. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From miscon@miscon.net Tue Apr 6 09:31:08 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Tue Apr 6 09:29:01 2004 Subject: Dan takes one for the team! (was: Re: Maine Public Radiofundraising) Message-ID: <200404060931.AA20119678@miscon.net> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Dan Billings" Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 00:00:16 -0400 >It was like watching a car wreck -- I couldn't tune away. > >I was also fascinated to fund out how long the break would last. It went 25 >minutes. > Do any of you remember (or dare admit watching) a late 70's movie called "Americathon?" It took place in "the future" (1998) and starred John Ritter as the U.S. president, and Harvey Korman as the (frustrated) host of a telethon designed to raise money for the (now) much impovershed U.S. government. (The President lives in an apartment, people jog to work on highways free of cars, and the cars themselves have become homes - sometimes stacked atop each other, apartment-style - for nearly all of the working class. You get the picture.) Anyway, the telethon is going poorly, that is until Harvey appears to be having a heart attack on the air. Once off stage, he discovers that it really *isn't* a heart attack, but - lo and behold - the numbers for the show have gone up and money begins to trickle in. He goes back on stage and suffers (hour upon hour) his "heart attack" for all to see... and the money really pours in. Sounds a lot like your "watching a car wreck" / fundraising scenario to me! Mike Art imitates life - or life imitates art? From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Apr 6 16:46:20 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Apr 6 16:46:45 2004 Subject: Fwd: Re: Maine Public Radio fundraising Message-ID: >DATE: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 23:34:34 >From: Garrett Wollman >To: "Dan Billings" < said: > By the way, Maine Public Radio extended their beg-a-thon by a day and made > their goals on Saturday afternoon. I think >listeners decided that they > would not stop until they got the money. >Did they really extend the fundraiser, or did they >``extend'' it? >-GAWollman >(me? cynical?) One of my favorite quotes, attributed to Lily Tomlin is: "No matter how cynical I get, I can't keep up". Laurence Glavin --------- End Forwarded Message --------- ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Apr 6 18:09:21 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Tue Apr 6 18:09:26 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town Message-ID: <000701c41c23$d03e6680$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> The entire staffs of Newsradio WMTW and KISS 99.9 were fired today: http://www.wmtw.com/Global/story.asp?S=1765868&nav=7k6rM5MO Country WTHT has moved from 107.5 to 99.9. An announcement of the move is running over and over on 107.5 with the WTHT audio running in the background. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue Apr 6 18:31:32 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Tue Apr 6 18:33:40 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town In-Reply-To: <000701c41c23$d03e6680$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000001c41c26$eae92760$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Of the Spring Cleaning on Congress St in Portland, Dan wrote: >>(snip) Country WTHT has moved from 107.5 to 99.9. An announcement of the move is running over and over on 107.5 with the WTHT audio running in the background.<< And over at NewsTalk 870 AM, it's a heartbeat. Hot buzz is Classic Hits at 107.5, and the new Air America Network on 870. Too bad about the firings. Always affects some really nice people. I'm not sure who got let go. My thoughts are with two pros, 870's Dick Gosselin (former WCSH-TV anchor/reporter, WMTW-TV reporter, WCVB-TV reporter and host of "So You Think You Know Maine" on Me.Public TV) and longtime 99.9 voice Chris Lane. Hopefully Nassau has found a spot for those two. If not, I hope that one of the other market stations will make use their seasoned, honed talents. - -Chuck (I thought Nassau was in the Bahamas) Igo From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Apr 6 19:59:43 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Tue Apr 6 19:59:47 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: <000001c41c26$eae92760$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <001d01c41c33$3b1617f0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Igo" To: "'Dan Billings'" Cc: "'Boston Radio'" Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:31 PM Subject: RE: Nassau comes to town >Hot buzz is Classic Hits > at 107.5, I have also heard rumors of classic rock, which Nassau does elsewhere. >and the new Air America Network on 870. What's that? > longtime 99.9 voice Chris Lane. Hopefully Nassau has found a spot for > those two. If not, I hope that one of the other market stations will > make use their seasoned, honed talents. Don't they know that Chris comes with the license? I worked at WLAM/WKZS in 1986 and Chris was there then and has been there ever since. Not to single anyone out, but there are a couple of regulars on WTHT that I would have shown the door before Chris. He could have slid into country without any trouble. Newsradio WMTW was a bad idea all around. I also feel bad for the people, but they had to see that one coming. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Apr 6 21:08:20 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Apr 6 21:08:27 2004 Subject: Donna Quoted in CBS Marketwatch In-Reply-To: <200404052207.AA1425735960@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200404052207.AA1425735960@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040406210629.01c19598@pop3.bit-net.com> At 10:07 PM 4/5/2004, rogerkirk wrote: >You make it seem as if people would only tune to a non-commercial station >for 6-minte stories, but tune to commercial stations only for short ones. > >Are people's expectations driven by the commerciality of a broadcast outlet? My suspicion is that they are 2 different audiences. From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Tue Apr 6 22:06:03 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Tue Apr 6 22:05:28 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town Message-ID: <200404062206.AA2204827872@mail.ttlc.net> "Dan Billings" wrote: >Newsradio WMTW was a bad idea all around. I also feel bad for the >people, but they had to see that one coming. People are sometimes hired or retained based on their belief in potential for success of the company. If they truly believed it could work (and were hired and/or retained on the basis of their belief) then why fault them? Shouldn't the fault really rest with the leader? Of course, if they lied and said they believed just to get/keep the job, then you're correct. Just a thought. From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Apr 6 22:17:30 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Tue Apr 6 22:17:33 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: <200404062206.AA2204827872@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <002901c41c46$7acf4930$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rogerkirk" To: "Dan Billings" Cc: "BRI" Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:06 PM Subject: Re: Nassau comes to town > People are sometimes hired or retained based on their belief in potential for success of the company. If they truly believed it could work (and were hired and/or retained on the basis of their belief) then why fault them? Shouldn't the fault really rest with the leader? I was not blaming the people. My comment that "they had to see that one coming" was meant to suggest only that the firings should not have been a surprise. The station was clearly losing money big time and was certain to get the ax under new owners. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Apr 6 23:57:16 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue Apr 6 23:57:22 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town In-Reply-To: <200404062206.AA2204827872@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200404062206.AA2204827872@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: At 10:06 PM -0400 4/6/04, rogerkirk wrote: >People are sometimes hired or retained based on their belief in >potential for success of the company. If they truly believed it >could work (and were hired and/or retained on the basis of their >belief) then why fault them? Shouldn't the fault really rest with >the leader? > >Of course, if they lied and said they believed just to get/keep the >job, then you're correct. The reality of today's job market makes people take any job they can get. Even if they think it will be short-lived, it pays some of the bills for a while, and gives them some experience to put on their resumes. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From fox893@yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 06:02:27 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Wed Apr 7 06:02:36 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town In-Reply-To: <001d01c41c33$3b1617f0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <20040407100227.89098.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> > I have also heard rumors of classic rock, which > Nassau does elsewhere. Up against WBLM? Hmmmm... Maybe if they took a different approach. Like The Fox in Bangor was doing the last time I lived there. Reall really well known classic rock tracks. A format where someone like myself(mid 20s/never a BIG classic rock fan) can tune in and never say, "Hmmmm... What's this?" > > >and the new Air America Network on 870. > > What's that? Air America is the liberal talk network that Al Franken started. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Apr 7 07:30:16 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Apr 7 07:30:25 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town In-Reply-To: <20040407100227.89098.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> References: <001d01c41c33$3b1617f0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <20040407100227.89098.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040407072712.01bafec0@pop3.bit-net.com> Cooper Fox wrote: >Up against WBLM? Hmmmm... Maybe if they took a >different approach. Like The Fox in Bangor was doing >the last time I lived there. Reall really well known >classic rock tracks. A format where someone like >myself(mid 20s/never a BIG classic rock fan) can tune >in and never say, "Hmmmm... What's this?" Is BLM strictly classic rock or a gold-leaning AOR? If the latter, there may be an opening for a station that doesn't mix Korn in with Pink Floyd. From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Apr 7 17:46:07 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Apr 7 17:46:31 2004 Subject: Mt. Olive Newspaper on WGSM Towers Message-ID: Among the FCC "window" applications mentioned by Bob on LTAR Sunday 04/04 (to be repeated @6:00 am 04/11) was an application by WGSM-AM 740 on Long Island, NY to move to Mt. Olive, NJ and boost its power to 50,000 watts. This is of interest to B.R.I.G. correspondents because it threatens reception of WJIB-AM in some places where it's audible now. Mt. Olive may be tiny, but it has a newspaper, and that *estimable journal contains a story about WGSM's plans. Read all about it at: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=11260395&BRD=1918&PAG=461&dept_id=506840&rfi=6 *(Estimable it may be, but the paper's spell check apparently isn't working; note their spelling of the word 'fallacious".) Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Apr 7 21:50:01 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Wed Apr 7 21:50:12 2004 Subject: WMTW Message-ID: <001901c41d0b$ce3a75c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> The audio on WMTW is the sound of a heartbeat with an id a few times a minute. From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Apr 8 11:36:36 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Apr 8 11:35:55 2004 Subject: Mystery Message Message-ID: <200404081136.AA2830499890@mail.ttlc.net> This morning whilst commuting from Fremont to Billerica, I noticed an interesting (and cryptic) message scrawled in the dirt adorning the back roll-up door of a white trailer (NH plates) headed south on Route 495. It said: Free 107.3 N/P Any guesses as to the significance? I'm drawing a blank. The tractor and trailer were virtually devoid of any significant markings to identify the city of origin. From nostaticatall@comcast.net Thu Apr 8 01:53:19 2004 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu Apr 8 11:36:01 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town In-Reply-To: <20040407100227.89098.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040407100227.89098.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <09C9DBAC-8921-11D8-8A25-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> Nassau owns several stations that run classic hits, with a bit of a classic rock lean. Musically these stations fall in between WZLX and WROR. A few of them use the "Hawk" moniker, including a station in their home market of Trenton, NJ. In fact, Nassau flipped all of their traditional oldies stations to this format last year. My guess is that "107-five The Hawk" will be in place soon.... Dave Tomm, aka "Mike Thomas" On Apr 7, 2004, at 6:02 AM, Cooper Fox wrote: > >> I have also heard rumors of classic rock, which >> Nassau does elsewhere. > > Up against WBLM? Hmmmm... Maybe if they took a > different approach. Like The Fox in Bangor was doing > the last time I lived there. Reall really well known > classic rock tracks. A format where someone like > myself(mid 20s/never a BIG classic rock fan) can tune > in and never say, "Hmmmm... What's this?" > From radiofreak@4motion.org Thu Apr 8 12:34:24 2004 From: radiofreak@4motion.org (Damon Cassell) Date: Thu Apr 8 12:34:29 2004 Subject: Mystery Message In-Reply-To: <200404081136.AA2830499890@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: A quick Google search returns this: http://www.free107.com/ Why someone would be enthusiastic enough about a Christian station to scrawl it on a truck, I don't know. The N/P part I don't get. "Now Playing" maybe? Could be something else.. -d On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, rogerkirk wrote: > This morning whilst commuting from Fremont to Billerica, I noticed an interesting (and cryptic) message scrawled in the dirt adorning the back roll-up door of a white trailer (NH plates) headed south on Route 495. It said: > > Free 107.3 > N/P > > Any guesses as to the significance? I'm drawing a blank. The tractor and trailer were virtually devoid of any significant markings to identify the city of origin. > > > -- Damon Cassell Marblehead MA damon@cassell.de From jjlehmann@comcast.net Thu Apr 8 12:39:17 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Thu Apr 8 12:39:03 2004 Subject: Mystery Message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000701c41d88$0beb8a40$6400a8c0@AMD> That Christian station is in Texas, so I doubt that's what it means. I think I remember seeing a sticker somewhere around the area with "Free 107.3" on it in plain black and white text. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Damon Cassell Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:34 PM To: rogerkirk Cc: BRI Subject: Re: Mystery Message A quick Google search returns this: http://www.free107.com/ Why someone would be enthusiastic enough about a Christian station to scrawl it on a truck, I don't know. The N/P part I don't get. "Now Playing" maybe? Could be something else.. -d On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, rogerkirk wrote: > This morning whilst commuting from Fremont to Billerica, I noticed an interesting (and cryptic) message scrawled in the dirt adorning the back roll-up door of a white trailer (NH plates) headed south on Route 495. It said: > > Free 107.3 > N/P > > Any guesses as to the significance? I'm drawing a blank. The tractor and trailer were virtually devoid of any significant markings to identify the city of origin. > > > -- Damon Cassell Marblehead MA damon@cassell.de From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 8 20:42:50 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Apr 8 20:42:58 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: <20040407100227.89098.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> <09C9DBAC-8921-11D8-8A25-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000801c41dcb$95f0cf50$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Chris Lane did not get the ax on Tuesday. He was doing news on WTHT this morning. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From sid.whitaker@unh.edu Thu Apr 8 21:17:03 2004 From: sid.whitaker@unh.edu (Sid Whitaker) Date: Thu Apr 8 21:17:11 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town In-Reply-To: <000801c41dcb$95f0cf50$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <20040407100227.89098.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> <09C9DBAC-8921-11D8-8A25-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> <000801c41dcb$95f0cf50$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <1081473423.4075f98f7212f@webmail.unh.edu> In the car around 6:30 tonight, heard 870 running a Howard Dean speech, followed by an abrupt cut-out and silence. It's the first thing I've heard on that frequency other than the heartbeat since they pulled the plug on "NewsRadio." Meanwhile, 106.7 was still running the heartbeat. Maybe this was a 'dry-run' for the Air America network rumored to be in the wings... Sid Whitaker From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 8 21:26:49 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Apr 8 21:26:53 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: <20040407100227.89098.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com><09C9DBAC-8921-11D8-8A25-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net><000801c41dcb$95f0cf50$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <1081473423.4075f98f7212f@webmail.unh.edu> Message-ID: <001b01c41dd1$bb000e90$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Whitaker" To: Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Nassau comes to town > > Maybe this was a 'dry-run' > for the Air America network rumored to be in the wings... What is the Air America network? From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Fri Apr 9 01:13:49 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Fri Apr 9 01:16:41 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: <20040407100227.89098.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com><09C9DBAC-8921-11D8-8A25-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net><000801c41dcb$95f0cf50$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><1081473423.4075f98f7212f@webmail.unh.edu> <001b01c41dd1$bb000e90$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <00d101c41df1$76b4c9e0$1404fea9@compaq5726> > > Maybe this was a 'dry-run' > > for the Air America network rumored to be in the wings... > > What is the Air America network? Dan, you surprise me! HAve you been living under a rock? ;-) This is the new liberal talkradio network that has been (over)hyped for the past month or so. http://www.airamericaradio.com/ JP From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Apr 9 03:55:12 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Apr 9 03:55:20 2004 Subject: the truth really is out there somewhere Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040409035354.02a610d8@pop.registeredsite.com> In fact, it may even be in a library near you. The new 3-volume Encyclopedia of Radio has just been published, and it contains a number of ground-breaking essays and research never before seen-- yes, friends, we actually debunk a number of myths, and try to provide a reliable reference work on the history of radio from day one to now. You will see some of my essays in it, along with a few by other folks you may have heard of. If you do get a chance to peruse it, I think you'll be impressed. All of us who were involved with the project worked very hard on it, and it took us over 5 years. But now it's available, and I couldn't be happier. Just wanted to let you know! (And yes, such forgotten pioneers as Eunice Randall, the Yankee Network, WGI, and the late great John Shepard 3rd are finally getting their due.) From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Apr 9 06:33:06 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri Apr 9 06:33:10 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: <20040407100227.89098.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com><09C9DBAC-8921-11D8-8A25-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net><000801c41dcb$95f0cf50$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><1081473423.4075f98f7212f@webmail.unh.edu> <001b01c41dd1$bb000e90$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <00d101c41df1$76b4c9e0$1404fea9@compaq5726> Message-ID: <000701c41e1e$0b8a4640$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Pappalardo" To: "Dan Billings" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 1:13 AM Subject: Re: Nassau comes to town > Dan, you surprise me! HAve you been living under a rock? ;-) > > This is the new liberal talkradio network that has been (over)hyped for the > past month or so. I heard the hype but do not remember the name being mentioned. I think that shows that it is a bad name. It communicates no meaning, -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From oldradio@earthlink.net Fri Apr 9 07:03:06 2004 From: oldradio@earthlink.net (RBB) Date: Fri Apr 9 07:03:12 2004 Subject: Fw: Gene Klavan Obit Message-ID: <01ef01c41e22$3d86c3e0$ab40bb3f@S0031698896> The announcement of the passing of a legend radio personality in New York broadcasting today. WNEW's very entertaining, morning drivetime host, Gene Klavan is gone at age 79. He lived in Manhattan and was with 1130AM in NYC for 25 years. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/09/arts/09KLAV.html?ex=1082174400&en=882a4c67ddbfe185&ei=5062 The obit mentions that Gene wrote two books, one on his years with WNEW, the other on the news media. Are they available in print, anyone know? =Russ Butler oldradio@earthlink.net From paul@03038.com Fri Apr 9 09:06:35 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri Apr 9 09:21:19 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town In-Reply-To: <001b01c41dd1$bb000e90$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <005401c41e36$053bf820$0e87fea9@q0002> The "Liberal" Talk Network with Al Franken (The O'Franken Factor), Jenine Garafalo and others. -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Dan Billings Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:27 PM To: Sid Whitaker; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Nassau comes to town ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Whitaker" To: Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Nassau comes to town > > Maybe this was a 'dry-run' > for the Air America network rumored to be in the wings... What is the Air America network? From sven@gordsven.com Fri Apr 9 09:58:22 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Fri Apr 9 09:58:30 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town In-Reply-To: <001b01c41dd1$bb000e90$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Dan Billings wrote: > What is the Air America network? Really boring "liberal" talk radio. Al Franken....need I say more? -- Sven From mlaurence@mindspring.com Fri Apr 9 11:18:56 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Fri Apr 9 11:18:56 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <383938E4-8A39-11D8-AB52-000393D13824@mindspring.com> On Friday, April 9, 2004, at 09:58 AM, Sven Franklyn Weil wrote: > On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Dan Billings wrote: >> What is the Air America network? > > Really boring "liberal" talk radio. Al Franken....need I say more? Yes, there is more to this network than Al Franken's much publicized 3 hours. Try listening to Randi Rhodes in the afternoon (3-7pm) and tell me what you think. She's got an in-your-face style, full of personality, that I think conservatives would call "entertaining" if she expressed the opposite point of view. There have been quite a few times she's made me laugh out loud in the three shows I've heard so far. No matter if you agree or disagree with her philosophy, I think you'll agree that she follows several good rules of pro talk radio: keep it simple, keep it entertaining, keep it challenging, and make it interesting for a 3 minute listener as well as a 2 hour listener. Whether or not this network succeeds, I hope Randi Rhodes does. Mark From n1qgs@yahoo.com Fri Apr 9 12:22:01 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Fri Apr 9 12:22:05 2004 Subject: LEO 103 on the air in Londonderry NH Message-ID: <20040409162201.86046.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> WLLO-LP 102.9 is on the air in Londonderry NH. The grand official opening is scheduled for this Saturday. It's run by or out of Londonderry High School. LHS is about 1/2 mile from the geographic center of Londonderry. Transmission pattern seams to be directional (north/south), although that may be due to the terrain. Londonderry is 8 miles tall and 4.5 miles wide. 1.5 miles to the east the signal gets clobbered by WBLM Portland (this may be partially due to the fact that the land to the east drops off greatly in altitude and may be in a signal shadow. However, six miles to the north it provides a rugged signal, even on the other side of a hill that should block a good part of the signal. The WLLO-LP signal now prevents my listening to WBLM Portland at my home, 5.0 miles NNE of the High School. John East Derry ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Apr 9 12:33:15 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Apr 9 12:33:18 2004 Subject: Air America (was: Nassau comes to town) In-Reply-To: <383938E4-8A39-11D8-AB52-000393D13824@mindspring.com> References: <383938E4-8A39-11D8-AB52-000393D13824@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <59344.216.204.15.170.1081528395.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> > > Whether or not this network succeeds, I hope Randi Rhodes does. >From what I've read she's the only one on this network with actual talk radio experience. I think she currently works somewhere in Florida. From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Apr 9 12:42:06 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Apr 9 12:42:08 2004 Subject: WKXL sold In-Reply-To: <20040409162201.86046.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040409162201.86046.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <59568.216.204.15.170.1081528926.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> WKXL in Concord, N.H. is being sold. http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040409/REPOSITORY/404090339/1001 From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Apr 9 18:38:08 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri Apr 9 18:38:15 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: <200404091047.GAA31131@colossus.bilow.com> Message-ID: <001001c41e83$54b98550$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> WMTW tonight was broadcasting a John Kerry speech -- which caused me to tune out quicker than the heartbeat sound effect that they had been running. This, and the report yesterday of a Howard Dean speech being heard, indicates that the station will be carrying the new liberal talk network. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Apr 9 18:45:07 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri Apr 9 18:45:11 2004 Subject: WKXL sold References: <20040409162201.86046.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> <59568.216.204.15.170.1081528926.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <003401c41e84$4eac5650$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Bi-partisan radio in NH: A station that carries Arnie Arnesen will be owned by Gordon Humphrey. From paul@03038.com Fri Apr 9 20:21:26 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri Apr 9 20:18:15 2004 Subject: LEO 103 on the air in Londonderry NH In-Reply-To: <20040409162201.86046.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005d01c41e91$cd3350c0$0e87fea9@q0002> Report from East Derry....about 7.5 miles due east of Londonderry High. My DX-398 gives me a choice! Point the antenna due E and 'BLM comes in clear...about an 8 on my meter w/ no interference from WLLO-LP Point the antenna due W and WLLO-LP comes in almost as clear...about a 6 on my meter w/ virtually no interference (slight crackle). At 8:16PM they're playing Queen's Radio Ga Ga....(I wonder if it's a continuous re-play?) SO I'm in just about the perfect spot to choose what I want for my 102.9 (no, I don't get WPXC...although 1 or 2 days each summer I do pick it up..) BTW: They (LLO-LP) then played a song that opens to KHJ Los Angeles jingle ("On the AM Radio" sampling the song track for "Mr Big Shot".....) -Paul Hopfgarten -Apparently further East in East Derry than John -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of John Bolduc Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:22 PM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: LEO 103 on the air in Londonderry NH WLLO-LP 102.9 is on the air in Londonderry NH. The grand official opening is scheduled for this Saturday. It's run by or out of Londonderry High School. LHS is about 1/2 mile from the geographic center of Londonderry. Transmission pattern seams to be directional (north/south), although that may be due to the terrain. Londonderry is 8 miles tall and 4.5 miles wide. 1.5 miles to the east the signal gets clobbered by WBLM Portland (this may be partially due to the fact that the land to the east drops off greatly in altitude and may be in a signal shadow. However, six miles to the north it provides a rugged signal, even on the other side of a hill that should block a good part of the signal. The WLLO-LP signal now prevents my listening to WBLM Portland at my home, 5.0 miles NNE of the High School. John East Derry ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ From paul@03038.com Fri Apr 9 20:23:24 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri Apr 9 20:20:13 2004 Subject: LEO 103 on the air in Londonderry NH Message-ID: <005e01c41e92$0fb9a660$0e87fea9@q0002> Then they follow up with Donna Summer "On the Radio"....a theme? (he said sarcastically) -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hopfgarten [mailto:paul@03038.com] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 8:21 PM To: 'John Bolduc'; 'boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org' Subject: RE: LEO 103 on the air in Londonderry NH Report from East Derry....about 7.5 miles due east of Londonderry High. My DX-398 gives me a choice! Point the antenna due E and 'BLM comes in clear...about an 8 on my meter w/ no interference from WLLO-LP Point the antenna due W and WLLO-LP comes in almost as clear...about a 6 on my meter w/ virtually no interference (slight crackle). At 8:16PM they're playing Queen's Radio Ga Ga....(I wonder if it's a continuous re-play?) SO I'm in just about the perfect spot to choose what I want for my 102.9 (no, I don't get WPXC...although 1 or 2 days each summer I do pick it up..) BTW: They (LLO-LP) then played a song that opens to KHJ Los Angeles jingle ("On the AM Radio" sampling the song track for "Mr Big Shot".....) -Paul Hopfgarten -Apparently further East in East Derry than John -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of John Bolduc Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:22 PM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: LEO 103 on the air in Londonderry NH WLLO-LP 102.9 is on the air in Londonderry NH. The grand official opening is scheduled for this Saturday. It's run by or out of Londonderry High School. LHS is about 1/2 mile from the geographic center of Londonderry. Transmission pattern seams to be directional (north/south), although that may be due to the terrain. Londonderry is 8 miles tall and 4.5 miles wide. 1.5 miles to the east the signal gets clobbered by WBLM Portland (this may be partially due to the fact that the land to the east drops off greatly in altitude and may be in a signal shadow. However, six miles to the north it provides a rugged signal, even on the other side of a hill that should block a good part of the signal. The WLLO-LP signal now prevents my listening to WBLM Portland at my home, 5.0 miles NNE of the High School. John East Derry ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Apr 9 20:47:25 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Apr 9 20:47:28 2004 Subject: LEO 103 on the air in Londonderry NH In-Reply-To: <005d01c41e91$cd3350c0$0e87fea9@q0002> References: <20040409162201.86046.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> <005d01c41e91$cd3350c0$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040409204513.01be1ec0@pop3.bit-net.com> Paul Hopfgarten wrote: >BTW: They (LLO-LP) then played a song that opens to KHJ Los Angeles jingle >("On the AM Radio" sampling the song track for "Mr Big Shot".....) Don't ever recall hearing a KHJ jingle in it, but the song is "AM Radio" by Everclear, roughly 1999 vintage. From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Apr 9 20:50:26 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri Apr 9 20:50:08 2004 Subject: LEO 103 on the air in Londonderry NH In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040409204513.01be1ec0@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <005501c41e95$d5433b50$6400a8c0@AMD> The jingle is in the album version of the song, right at the beginning, in low audio. The version that was played on the radio didn't have the jingle. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of SteveOrdinetz Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 8:47 PM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: RE: LEO 103 on the air in Londonderry NH Paul Hopfgarten wrote: >BTW: They (LLO-LP) then played a song that opens to KHJ Los Angeles jingle >("On the AM Radio" sampling the song track for "Mr Big Shot".....) Don't ever recall hearing a KHJ jingle in it, but the song is "AM Radio" by Everclear, roughly 1999 vintage. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri Apr 9 23:11:30 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Fri Apr 9 23:12:14 2004 Subject: LEO 103 on the air in Londonderry NH In-Reply-To: <005501c41e95$d5433b50$6400a8c0@AMD> Message-ID: <000101c41ea9$87d4e800$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Regarding Everclear's "On The AM Radio", Jeff wrote: >>The jingle is in the album version of the song, right at the beginning, in low audio. The version that was played on the radio didn't have the jingle.<< Actually, it was a hoot to hear that in regular rotation when it was hot. The KHJ jingle-in version was played on many stations, including WJBQ 97.9 up here in Maine, and I *think* I heard it on KISS in Boston, as well. Then again, I thought I heard Dale and JJ Wright on KISS, too, back in the day, of course. (grinning... No duckin' required) Chuck (RKO stations really DID rock!) Igo From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri Apr 9 23:11:30 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Fri Apr 9 23:12:26 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town In-Reply-To: <001001c41e83$54b98550$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000001c41ea9$8652dbe0$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Dan the not-so-liberal barrister, but who can certainly "Post" a record far better than Dershowitz ever will, wrote: >> WMTW tonight was broadcasting a John Kerry speech -- which caused me to tune out quicker than the heartbeat sound effect that they had been running. This, and the report yesterday of a Howard Dean speech being heard, indicates that the station will be carrying the new liberal talk network.<< Um... Do ya think??? I actually inquired as to the implications of running non-anchored, non-stop campaign stumps in regards to equal time considerations. The "window" for non-accountable time offerings is 4/24. but even so, a smaht, saavy politically-inclined person might find a way to bring this very (yes, Dan, I'm gonna use the "L" word...) LIBERAL presentation to the attention of someone who might have some say as to whether or not it continues. Sadly, the weekend is upon us, and as of Tuesday, the new 870 will make its debut, (again, with a nod to Dan of whom not much gets by) will most likely be the Al Franken "anchored" Air America Liberal Talk Radio Network. My best "guess" on this, previously offered, is now based upon the, um, use of an "unidentified" host after one of the campaign things (Dan... Gotta listen ALL the way through or you miss the good stuff) sounded a lot like, er, AL FRANKEN. How 'bout them Red Sox? Okay: How 'bout those Bruins? Umaine Blackbears? Portland Pirates! (clinched playoff spot tonight!) Chuck (me like hockey) Igo From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Apr 9 23:15:12 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Apr 9 23:15:16 2004 Subject: 102.9 In-Reply-To: <005d01c41e91$cd3350c0$0e87fea9@q0002> References: <20040409162201.86046.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> <005d01c41e91$cd3350c0$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <200404100315.i3A3FCSD062066@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > SO I'm in just about the perfect spot to choose what I want for my 102.9 > (no, I don't get WPXC...although 1 or 2 days each summer I do pick it up..) Speaking of WPXC, that has to be one of the most potent class-A FMs around. 6 kW from not very high up and yet the summer trops make it a dogfight with full-C WBLM here. (I've had nights when all three 102.9s have been in: 'PXC, 'BLM, and 'DRC-FM.) Having a wide-open channel doesn't hurt. -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Apr 9 23:16:49 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Apr 9 23:16:53 2004 Subject: LEO 103 on the air in Londonderry NH In-Reply-To: <005501c41e95$d5433b50$6400a8c0@AMD> References: <6.0.3.0.0.20040409204513.01be1ec0@pop3.bit-net.com> <005501c41e95$d5433b50$6400a8c0@AMD> Message-ID: <200404100316.i3A3Gn40062077@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > The jingle is in the album version of the song, right at the beginning, > in low audio. The version that was played on the radio didn't have the > jingle. Depends on the station. Some stations played the album version. (I know 'XRV did, at least some of the time.) -GAWollman From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Apr 9 23:29:49 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri Apr 9 23:29:57 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: <000001c41ea9$8652dbe0$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <004c01c41eac$14a56b90$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> I am the last guy who would challenge WMTW or anyone else's right to broadcast liberal propaganda. I think the current equal time laws are ridiculous. The government ought to forget about content regulation all together. They do a lousy job of it. The Tonight Show and Howard Stern were both ruled to be news programming so Arnie's appearances during the California campaign so equal time laws did not apply. Then there is the issue of Clear Channel getting fined for a Howard Stern broadcast but not the other stations carrying the same program. Does that make sense? By the way -- don't the equal time rules kick in 6 weeks before a primary and 8 weeks before an election? The 4/24 date Chuck mentions is likely related to Maine's June primary, which is not a Presidential primary so WMTW would not have a problem with broadcasting Kerry speeches. The Air America website -- http://www.airamericaradio.com/ -- lists the network as being on 5 stations: New York - WLIB 1190 AM Los Angeles - KBLA 1580 AM Chicago - WNTD 950 AM Portland, OR- KPOJ 620 AM Inland Empire, CA- KCAA 1050 AM With the network coming to town, Maine will be ahead of the trends for a change. Does anyone know how much money is behind this network? It seems to me that they will burn through a lot of money real fast in buying stations and paying to be on stations like WMTW. I wonder what the SeaDogs will think about being associated with a station with such a clear partisan agenda? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sat Apr 10 00:07:45 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sat Apr 10 00:08:51 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town In-Reply-To: <004c01c41eac$14a56b90$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000001c41eb1$613c4140$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Regarding the unabashed liberal, Rush Limbaugh-FREE broadcasts on Portland, Maine's AM 870, Dan asked: >> (snip) I wonder what the SeaDogs will think about being associated with a station with such a clear partisan agenda? << I asked Slugger, the Seadogs mascot, and he said: " " Seems to me that if you don't like Paul Sullivan or David Brudnoy or the fact that Gary LaPierre's heating bill is a fraction of what mine or your's might be, if you enjoy the Bruins, you'll listen to AM 1030. Same thing with the Red Sox and/or Celtics. The Big O is not the be-all and end-all of sports broadcasting, yet I'll still tune into AM 850 for sports coverage. And here in Maine, same thing with some of the hosts on AM 1310, onto which some of the Boston sports programming, and Pirates, too, are bumped when conflicts for AM1440 arise (same group: AM1310 / AM 1440) Chuck Igo From kvahey@tmail.com Sat Apr 10 00:18:30 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat Apr 10 00:19:05 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town In-Reply-To: <000001c41eb1$613c4140$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> References: <000001c41eb1$613c4140$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <1081570717.21A6543D@w5.dngr.org> Slugger has an attitude Now I could see the Trash Monsters and Rush going at it On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 12:14am, Chuck Igo wrote: > Regarding the unabashed liberal, Rush Limbaugh-FREE broadcasts on > Portland, Maine's AM 870, Dan asked: >>> (snip) I wonder what the SeaDogs will think about being associated > with a station with such a clear partisan agenda? << > > I asked Slugger, the Seadogs mascot, and he said: > > " " > > Seems to me that if you don't like Paul Sullivan or David Brudnoy or > the > fact that Gary LaPierre's heating bill is a fraction of what mine or > your's might be, if you enjoy the Bruins, you'll listen to AM 1030. > Same thing with the Red Sox and/or Celtics. The Big O is not the > be-all > and end-all of sports broadcasting, yet I'll still tune into AM 850 for > sports coverage. And here in Maine, same thing with some of the hosts > on AM 1310, onto which some of the Boston sports programming, and > Pirates, too, are bumped when conflicts for AM1440 arise (same group: > AM1310 / AM 1440) > > Chuck Igo From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Apr 10 00:20:30 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat Apr 10 00:20:36 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: <000001c41eb1$613c4140$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <006101c41eb3$28c90b20$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Chuck Igo" >>Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 12:07 AM Isn't it past your bed time? It's way too late for a morning man to be up. I know it's Saturday, but you are going to screw up your sleeping patterns. Then again, it's probably too late for you to worry about that for this life. ;-) -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Apr 10 00:21:23 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat Apr 10 00:21:29 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: <000001c41eb1$613c4140$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> <1081570717.21A6543D@w5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <006701c41eb3$4862a4a0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Chuck Igo" ; "Dan Billings" Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 12:18 AM Subject: RE: Nassau comes to town > > I asked Slugger, the Seadogs mascot, and he said: Everyone knows that Slugger can't talk. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From sid@wrko.com Sat Apr 10 10:51:20 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat Apr 10 10:52:09 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town Message-ID: >>I am the last guy who would challenge WMTW or anyone else's right to broadcast liberal propaganda.<< So if a conservative POV is broadcast, it's not propaganda? >>I think the current equal time laws are ridiculous.<< There are no "equal time" laws. What you're probably referring to is the "equal opportunity" law (47 USC 315(a)), which states that if you sell air time to one candidate for an office, you have to sell air time to all other candidates for that same office. The law imposes no requirement for "equal time." >>there is the issue of Clear Channel getting fined for a Howard Stern broadcast but not the other stations carrying the same program. Does that make sense?<< Hold your horses. The Wall Street Journal reported on Friday (4/9) that Viacom is facing about a million and a half dollars worth of fines for the same programs they just fined Clear Channel a half-million bucks for. Such an inquiry on the part of the FCC takes time...but don't worry, under the current witch-hunting climate, it'll happen. >>By the way -- don't the equal time rules kick in 6 weeks before a primary and 8 weeks before an election?<< No. There are no "equal time" rules. What kicks in 45 days before a primary or 60 days before a general election is the "lowest unit rate" law (47 USC 315(b)(1)), which regulates what stations may charge candidates for their ads. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From sid.whitaker@unh.edu Sat Apr 10 11:29:38 2004 From: sid.whitaker@unh.edu (Sid Whitaker) Date: Sat Apr 10 11:30:15 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town In-Reply-To: <006701c41eb3$4862a4a0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <000001c41eb1$613c4140$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> <1081570717.21A6543D@w5.dngr.org> <006701c41eb3$4862a4a0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <1081610978.407812e22041d@webmail.unh.edu> Sure he can! Under 'certain circumstances,' he will converse with you. It just helps to be toting a TV camera when you see him... Sid Whitaker Quoting Dan Billings : > > > I asked Slugger, the Seadogs mascot, and he said: > > Everyone knows that Slugger can't talk. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Apr 10 11:59:55 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat Apr 10 12:00:00 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: Message-ID: <002101c41f14$de3cf3c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Schweiger" To: Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 10:51 AM Subject: Re: Nassau comes to town > So if a conservative POV is broadcast, it's not propaganda? It is. > No. There are no "equal time" rules. What kicks in 45 days before a primary or 60 days before a general election is the "lowest unit rate" law (47 USC 315(b)(1)), which regulates what stations may charge candidates for their ads. The law goes beyond just paid ads: The "Equal Time" Law 47 USC 1A315 (a) If any licensee shall permit any person who is a legally qualified candidate for any public office to use a broadcasting station, he shall afford equal opportunities to all other such candidates for that office in the use of such broadcasting station: Provided, That such licensee shall have no power of censorship over the material broadcast under the provisions of this section. No obligation is imposed under this subsection upon any licensee to allow the use of its station by any such candidate. Appearance by a legally qualified candidate on any-- (1) bona fide newscast, (2) bona fide news interview, (3) bona fide news documentary (if the appearance of the candidate is incidental to the presentation of the subject or subjects covered by the news documentary), or (4) on-the-spot coverage of bona fide news events (including but not limited to political conventions and activities incidental thereto), shall not be deemed to be use of a broadcasting station within the meaning of this subsection. Nothing in the foregoing sentence shall be construed as relieving broadcasters, in connection with the presentation of newscasts, news interviews, news documentaries, and on-the-spot coverage of news events, from the obligation imposed upon them under this chapter to operate in the public interest and to afford reasonable opportunity for the discussion of conflicting views on issues of public importance. From sid@wrko.com Sat Apr 10 14:20:42 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat Apr 10 14:21:48 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town Message-ID: >>Nothing in the foregoing sentence shall be construed as relieving broadcasters, in connection with the presentation of newscasts, news interviews, news documentaries, and on-the-spot coverage of news events, from the obligation imposed upon them under this chapter to operate in the public interest and to afford reasonable opportunity for the discussion of conflicting views on issues of public importance.<< Funny how I could read the same interminable sentence, and find no mention of "equal time." In the English language, "reasonable opportunity for the discussion of conflicting views" is not the same as "equal time." Are they the same in some other language? Funny how I could also read the same sentence and find no mention of the 45- and 60-day limits which you cited in your original posting, and which do in fact relate only to advertising rates. History lesson: The concept of "equal time" was thrown out decades ago by the courts as being contrary to the First Amendment and unenforceable, unless the FCC wished to make licensees account for every second of every discussion of public-policy issues...an offer which the FCC declined. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Apr 10 14:37:41 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat Apr 10 14:37:45 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: Message-ID: <002a01c41f2a$e87f4980$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Lots of people running broadcast outlets don't agree with you. Her are some examples: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/06/entertainment/main576756.shtml http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2003-09-10-stern_x.htm Several NBC affiliates refused to carry Saturday Night Live with Sharpton as host for fear it would activate federal "equal time provisions" and compel them to offer air time to the eight other Democrats running for president. http://www.sptimes.com/2003/12/08/Worldandnation/Some_TV_stations_bloc.shtml From maine.radio@verizon.net Sat Apr 10 15:26:06 2004 From: maine.radio@verizon.net (Jason Roberts - WCTB/WHQO/WSKW) Date: Sat Apr 10 15:25:50 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: <002a01c41f2a$e87f4980$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <07a301c41f31$b0abbc80$6501010a@LAPTOP> The NAB disagrees with you, as well, Sid. The Maine Association of Broadcasters had a seminar for member stations, presented by the NAB's (Chief?) Legal Counsel, during which we were warned about all of the things that could cause equal access rules to kick in or the LUR to be adjusted to benefit the buyer. One I remember very clearly was the case in which station talent was running for office; according to the speaker, a station would have justification to terminate the employment of said employee because other candidates for the same office could request time equal to the time said employee was on the air. The caveat in the situation we're discussing here, though, is that only qualified candidates running for the same office in the SAME ELECTION have the right to request the equal time. In the case of a Kerry speech, for example, assuming we were within the proper time frame for the state's primary, only another DEMOCRAT candidate could request equal time since only another Democrat could be running against him in the primary. My notes are at the office and I'm not, but the one thing that was banged into our heads at that seminar is that the rules most definitely still exist. -J. Jason Roberts VP / Station Manager WCTB - WHQO - WSKW 208 Middle Road P.O. Box 159 Skowhegan, ME 04976 207-474-5171 From sid@wrko.com Sat Apr 10 20:50:19 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat Apr 10 20:51:25 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town Message-ID: >>Lots of people running broadcast outlets don't agree with you.<< No, Dan, that's not the same thing. Offering air time to a candidate for office means that you must offer air time to all other candidates for that same office. It has nothing to do with "equal time." The time a licensee offers does not have to be equal, according to the law...the OPPORTUNITY to use the licensee's facilites must be. From sid@wrko.com Sat Apr 10 20:53:20 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat Apr 10 20:54:22 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town Message-ID: >>The NAB disagrees with you, as well, Sid. The Maine Association of Broadcasters had a seminar for member stations, presented by the NAB's (Chief?) Legal Counsel, during which we were warned about all of the things that could cause equal access rules to kick in or the LUR to be adjusted to bnefit the buyer.<< I took the same seminar, when Barry Umansky was NAB's chief counsel, and nothing was said in his talk about "equal time." "Equal opportunity" was the term used. A question from the audience asked about "equal time," and Barry pointed out that that term was outdated because the concept was shot down in the courts. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Apr 10 21:25:22 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat Apr 10 21:25:26 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: Message-ID: <004201c41f63$dc2f5790$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Sid: You are now quibbling. Your first post said this: "What you're probably referring to is the "equal opportunity" law (47 USC 315(a)), which states that if you sell air time to one candidate for an office, you have to sell air time to all other candidates for that same office." Your post seemed to imply that that this is the only requirement placed on broadcast stations and it is not. The law does not only apply to selling time, it applies to time given away and time on non-news shows. To go back to the situation that started this discussion -- if a station was running only Kerry speeches in October, the Bush campaign would have a basis under the law to complain. The law may not impose a strict equal time provision but I think the first thing a judge would look at is how much time was provided to each candidate. I don't think it would be considered equal opportunity to give one candidate a minute and another an hour, -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Apr 11 07:50:19 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Apr 11 07:51:51 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: <004201c41f63$dc2f5790$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <004001c41fbb$4c2ed6e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> How clear does Sid have to make it before you understand, Counselor? There is a HUGE difference between the right to claim equal amounts of FREE time on a station and the right to purchase an equal amount of PAID time at rate no greater than the lowest rate the station has charged for such time during the period of the election campaign. This is NOT a quibble! In one case, the government is forcing the station to GIVE AWAY ITS PRODUCT. In the other, the government is requiring the station to SELL its product to other legitimate candidates at a price the station previously established. Now, you can argue that the requirement to sell the time could force the station to carry programming that would drive away the audience, but that's not the same as confiscating the air time on behalf of the other candidates. And BTW, since the airwaves are public property, I think a good case could be made for the candidates' indeed having the right to confiscate the air time. However, if you can't grasp the difference between confiscation and a forced sale at a price established by the station, I wonder whether the Maine Board of Bar Overseers shouldn't revoke your license to practice law. Or are you just demonstrating the level of intelligence (or should I say incompetence?) of so many in your profession? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Billings To: Sid Schweiger ; Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 9:25 PM Subject: Re: Nassau comes to town > Sid: You are now quibbling. > > Your first post said this: "What you're probably referring to is the "equal > opportunity" law (47 USC 315(a)), which states that if you sell air time to > one candidate for an office, you have to sell air time to all other > candidates for that same office." Your post seemed to imply that that this > is the only requirement placed on broadcast stations and it is not. The law > does not only apply to selling time, it applies to time given away and time > on non-news shows. > > To go back to the situation that started this discussion -- if a station was > running only Kerry speeches in October, the Bush campaign would have a basis > under the law to complain. > > The law may not impose a strict equal time provision but I think the first > thing a judge would look at is how much time was provided to each candidate. > I don't think it would be considered equal opportunity to give one candidate > a minute and another an hour, > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Apr 11 11:50:13 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Apr 11 11:50:17 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: <004201c41f63$dc2f5790$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <004001c41fbb$4c2ed6e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <001c01c41fdc$adafc3e0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "Dan Billings" ; "Sid Schweiger" ; Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:50 AM Subject: Re: Nassau comes to town > How clear does Sid have to make it before you understand, Counselor? There > is a HUGE difference between the right to claim equal amounts of FREE time > on a station and the right to purchase an equal amount of PAID time at rate > no greater than the lowest rate the station has charged for such time during > the period of the election campaign. This is NOT a quibble! In one case, the > government is forcing the station to GIVE AWAY ITS PRODUCT. In the other, > the government is requiring the station to SELL its product to other > legitimate candidates at a price the station previously established. But the law goes beyond just paid ads. If a station gives away time to one candidate, it also has to give away time to another candidate. That is why some stations in New England did not carry Sharpton's appearance on Saturday Night Live. That is why there were questions raised about Arnold's appearances on Leno during his campaign. 47 USC 1A315 (a) If any licensee shall permit any person who is a legally qualified candidate for any public office to use a broadcasting station, he shall afford equal opportunities to all other such candidates for that office in the use of such broadcasting station: Provided, That such licensee shall have no power of censorship over the material broadcast under the provisions of this section. No obligation is imposed under this subsection upon any licensee to allow the use of its station by any such candidate. Appearance by a legally qualified candidate on any-- (1) bona fide newscast, (2) bona fide news interview, (3) bona fide news documentary (if the appearance of the candidate is incidental to the presentation of the subject or subjects covered by the news documentary), or (4) on-the-spot coverage of bona fide news events (including but not limited to political conventions and activities incidental thereto), shall not be deemed to be use of a broadcasting station within the meaning of this subsection. Nothing in the foregoing sentence shall be construed as relieving broadcasters, in connection with the presentation of newscasts, news interviews, news documentaries, and on-the-spot coverage of news events, from the obligation imposed upon them under this chapter to operate in the public interest and to afford reasonable opportunity for the discussion of conflicting views on issues of public importance. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Apr 11 14:58:00 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Apr 11 14:58:08 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town References: <004201c41f63$dc2f5790$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <004001c41fbb$4c2ed6e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <001c01c41fdc$adafc3e0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <000d01c41fe4$8aa83320$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <002a01c41ff6$e8f82950$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "Dan Billings" Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 12:46 PM Subject: Re: Nassau comes to town > And when, exactly, would an interview of a candidate during a campaign NOT > be considered a news event, Probably never. But the event that started this discussion was not an interview but WMTW broadcasting John Kerry speeches. The Sharpton appearance on SNL is another example. I think under the law that I posted, the Bush campaign would have a legitimate complaint if a station gave the Kerry campaign an hour to do with what they wanted everyday for the month of October. IMHO, all these laws should be repealed. Station owners should have the same rights to be biased as newspaper owners. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Apr 11 15:30:06 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Apr 11 15:30:09 2004 Subject: Nassau comes to town In-Reply-To: <004001c41fbb$4c2ed6e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <004201c41f63$dc2f5790$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <004001c41fbb$4c2ed6e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <200404111930.i3BJU6Kh073099@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Please reduce your level of vitriol. -GAWollman From maine.radio@verizon.net Mon Apr 12 21:38:22 2004 From: maine.radio@verizon.net (Jason Roberts - WCTB/WHQO/WSKW) Date: Mon Apr 12 21:38:03 2004 Subject: Janet Jackson on SNL Message-ID: <001901c420f8$032919e0$6501010a@LAPTOP> As you may have read by now, Janet Jackson spoofed her Super Bowl "wardrobe malfunction" in an opening sketch in which she played Condoleezza Rice. During her testimony, Janet's Dr. Rice becomes flustered and, in an attempt to divert attention away from the subject at hand, pulls open her blouse baring her right breast. Of course this was planned and it was very pixilated (and one would assume not truly bare anyway). I didn't see it Saturday night, but sometimes tape SNL (mostly for Weekend Update), so I went back to watch the sketch. Well, most of it. Management at WLBZ-TV had presumably told the MCO to be prepared for another incident because soon as Janet reached for her blouse, Channel 2 in Bangor dumped to black for the rest of the sketch. Was this unique to WLBZ or did other stations also panic? -J. Jason Roberts VP / Station Manager WCTB - WHQO - WSKW 208 Middle Road P.O. Box 159 Skowhegan, ME 04976 207-474-5171 From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Apr 13 02:40:03 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue Apr 13 02:40:11 2004 Subject: Janet Jackson on SNL In-Reply-To: <001901c420f8$032919e0$6501010a@LAPTOP> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040413023843.027d3ea0@pop.registeredsite.com> >Jason wrote-- >I didn't see it Saturday night, but sometimes tape SNL (mostly for Weekend >Update), so I went back to watch the sketch. Well, most of it. Management at >WLBZ-TV had presumably told the MCO to be prepared for another incident >because soon as Janet reached for her blouse, Channel 2 in Bangor dumped to >black for the rest of the sketch. > >Was this unique to WLBZ or did other stations also panic? Silly people-- it was a VERY predictable part of the skit, and I knew they were going to do it. Channel 7 in Boston stayed with it. Btw, the rest of the show wasn't particularly funny at all...although seeing Simon Cowell on stage may have been amusing to some people. From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Apr 13 15:47:55 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue Apr 13 15:47:59 2004 Subject: WLLO-LP 102.0 Londonderry transmitter location, north end of town Message-ID: <20040413194755.23748.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> Hello WLLO-LP 102.0 Londonderry transmitter location is actually at the North School, which I think is on Sanborn Road. Anyways, it is very near the intersection of Routes 28 and 128, which is west of I-93 exit 5. This would explain some of my strange reception findings. The web site indicates they had to locate a the North Elementary School, as other locations could not be squeezed into FCC separation guidelines. They are broadcasting with 100 watts. This makes the transmitter just about 2 1/2 miles from my house. I can still fiddle with the antennas and get WBLM, but not with a clean signal, due to WLLO-LP. In the car I can hear WLLO-LP as far south as Dracut MA and up into Hooksett NH. Web site is: http://schools.londonderry.org/leo/wllo103/index2.cfm John N1QGS New Hampshire Statewide Car 91 ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From sven@gordsven.com Tue Apr 13 16:09:52 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Tue Apr 13 16:10:02 2004 Subject: WLLO-LP 102.0 Londonderry transmitter location, north end of town In-Reply-To: <20040413194755.23748.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, John Bolduc wrote: > > WLLO-LP 102.0 Londonderry transmitter location is actually at the North > School Are you sure on 102.0 FM? When did the FCC start licencing the "even" FM frequencies? Not that I'm against it...it would open up a few spots, I guess (as if we don't have enough stations already). -- Sven From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Apr 13 16:51:16 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Apr 13 16:51:37 2004 Subject: WLLO-LP 102.0 Londonderry transmitter location, north end of town Message-ID: >DATE: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:47:55 >From: John Bolduc >To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Hello > >WLLO-LP 102.0 Londonderry transmitter location is actually at the North >School, which I think is on Sanborn Road. Anyways, it is very near the >intersection of Routes 28 and 128, which is west of I-93 exit 5. >This would explain some of my strange reception findings. >The web site indicates they had to locate a the North Elementary School, >as other locations could not be squeezed into FCC separation guidelines. >They are broadcasting with 100 watts. > >This makes the transmitter just about 2 1/2 miles from my house. I can >still fiddle with the antennas and get WBLM, but not with a clean signal, >due to WLLO-LP. > >In the car I can hear WLLO-LP as far south as Dracut MA and up into >Hooksett NH. > > >Web site is: >http://schools.londonderry.org/leo/wllo103/index2.cfm >> >John >N1QGS >New Hampshire Statewide Car 91 > I went to the website and read the material about WLLO; it promised NO UNDERWRITER MESSAGES; what about fundraisers though? The little precis about the theory behind low-power FM in general seems to have been written by a sworn enemy of Cheap Channel. Hey, wait a minute...wasn't Howard Stern on vaca last week? ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Apr 13 16:57:42 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Apr 13 16:58:04 2004 Subject: Could Wang Labs Come Back? Message-ID: Amazing. Allaccess.com says sales of radio delay systems are skyrocketing! This may be the time to resurrect the Wang Time Tunnel(tm)! Does anybody know how to contact Fred? Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From paul@03038.com Tue Apr 13 17:16:58 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Tue Apr 13 17:14:37 2004 Subject: WLLO-LP 102.0 Londonderry transmitter location, north end of town In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004701c4219c$d03d2760$0e87fea9@q0002> He meant .9 -Paul Hopfgarten -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Sven Franklyn Weil Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 4:10 PM To: John Bolduc Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: WLLO-LP 102.0 Londonderry transmitter location, north end of town On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, John Bolduc wrote: > > WLLO-LP 102.0 Londonderry transmitter location is actually at the North > School Are you sure on 102.0 FM? When did the FCC start licencing the "even" FM frequencies? Not that I'm against it...it would open up a few spots, I guess (as if we don't have enough stations already). -- Sven From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Tue Apr 13 17:49:18 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Tue Apr 13 17:48:32 2004 Subject: WLLO-LP 102.0 Londonderry transmitter location, north end oftown Message-ID: <200404131749.AA611844300@mail.ttlc.net> Sven Franklyn Weil wrote: >Are you sure on 102.0 FM? When did the FCC start licencing >the "even" FM frequencies? It would be just a bit difficult for many FM radios to tune an even frequency. Of course, the old analog dial radios would have no problem. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue Apr 13 17:58:27 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Tue Apr 13 18:07:39 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today Message-ID: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> The new Nassau formats arrived today. As hinted at, 107.5 FM is now "Frank FM," playing Classic HITS with an introductory period of 10,000 songs, commercial free. Have only heard "sweepers" with the occasional "WTHT Lewiston" at the top of the hour. Should run its course in about 3-4 weeks, and once the audience has heard "American Pie," "Draggin' the Line," and "Life In The Fastlane" for the 4th or 5th time, it'll have run its course. However, if they keep the chatter to a minimum and the platter to the max, they could make some serious inroads. At the moment, their positioner against commercials will help them, but once they start paying the electric bill, that shining spot will dim quickly. 104.7/106.7 are simulcasting "The Bone," Classic ROCK (ALL classic rock; nothing remotely "new" heard) with Howard Stern in the morning. Directly targeting WBLM, in sound and imaging. One sweeper I found interesting was a partially "bleeped" F-bomb directed at what 'BLM considers "classic rock." Gee, roll some tape, file a complaint and they'll be loopin' a heartbeat again in a, er... Heartbeat? 870 AM was running some sort of syndicated talk programming. Only a guess that it's the previously-alluded to Air America network. And there's a report (by way of NNE Radio-Info) that Peggy Lee's "Fever" was heard on a spin past 1470 AM. That's all from Maine for now. Will write again soon when I get the chance. My best to all back in civilization. Pat the dog for me and make sure you tell the President that he's got a new morning host in town for those nice, summer weekends in the 'Port. - -Chuck Igo From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Apr 13 18:50:39 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Tue Apr 13 18:50:45 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> 1470 is a nostalgia format using WLAM jingles. I did not listen long enough to figure out whether it was a satellite service or something else. When I tuned in 870 after 5 tonight, they were running a John Kerry speech. Do the 106.7 and 104.7 signals cover the market well enough to make an impact? 106.7 is not listenable in the Freeport/Brunswick area, which is in the Portland Metro, and is even a little scratchy in downtown Portland. Of course, a couple of points out of WBLM will really shake up the market. 104.7 covers the York County coast well, but that area is not in the Portland Metro. The new format at 107.5 will give Chuck and my other former co-workers at Oldies 100.9 a challenge, but I'm sure they are up to it. The station is solid as is and Saga will do what they need to do to protect a profitable franchise. Now that I think about it: Wouldn't it have made more sense to put Classic Rock on WBLM's former frequency at 107.5, which would also provide a signal strong enough to really challenge the Blimp? The 106.7/104.7 simulcast would have been given enough coverage to challenge Oldies 100.9, which is not one of the stronger signals in the market. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue Apr 13 19:04:18 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Tue Apr 13 19:14:09 2004 Subject: 870AM (Portland) FollowUp Message-ID: <000001c421ab$a73c7d20$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> They'd started running some "older" portions of the Air America talk programming (without actual identification of the programming) along with the audio from a "Generation Dean For Kerry" rally at GW University. I just heard the same "generation Dean" reference, so I'm only guessing they've not yet rolled out the format proper on AM870. - -Chuck Igo From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue Apr 13 19:25:07 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Tue Apr 13 19:35:09 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today In-Reply-To: <000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000001c421ae$9018ff80$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Dan (hourly) Billings wrote: >> (snip) The new format at 107.5 will give Chuck and my other former co-workers at Oldies 100.9 a challenge, but I'm sure they are up to it. The station is solid as is and Saga will do what they need to do to protect a profitable franchise. << I don't see Francis as being a problem for us. The on-air presentation of 107.5 is a tug at "more interesting," which is aimed at Saga sister station WMGX. The Classic Hits format is okay in and of itself, but the playlist is geared more towards the album generation that grew up on the psychedelic Beatles and then listened to "Dark Side of the Moon" (just aired on 107.5 at 6:56pm, btw) in a room lit only by a black-light. Most of us (yeah, I'm one... Pass the Nyquil...) enjoy that sort of playlist, but do enjoy those songs in the order in which they appeared on the LP or on the current CD. They are, from what I've heard, targeted to the "rock" sound from '66 to the 80's. (they're imaging with song clips from all 3 decades). When they start spinning Motown, R&B, Elvis and early Beatles, then Oldies might have to worry. Dan then further opined: >>Now that I think about it: Wouldn't it have made more sense to put Classic Rock on WBLM's former frequency at 107.5, which would also provide a signal strong enough to really challenge the Blimp? The 106.7/104.7 simulcast would have been given enough coverage to challenge Oldies 100.9, which is not one of the stronger signals in the market. << The target demo of Franny is more in line with what *used* to be at 107.5, back when the bumper stickers of the dirigible indicated 108 FM. The Bone (if they play a record, do they need cartilages in their turntables???) could have just as easily fit at 107.5 (with groups such as .38 Special and AC/DC playing as we speak), but Francis will draw a more-balanced demo in Portland, Lewiston-Auburn and even Augusta, as opposed to the almost-exclusive male numbers 104.7/106.7 will garner. - -Chuck (did you like the lawyer-thing at the beginning? ;-) ) Igo From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Apr 13 19:43:52 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue Apr 13 19:43:54 2004 Subject: WLLO-LP 102.9 Londonderry - more comments In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040413234352.71763.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> My typo, 102.9 I find that 102.7 and 103.1 would have been much better choices of frequencies to use, even though you have adjacent 102.5 WCRB and 103.3 WODS to think about. Personally I think they should tighten up the co-channel restrictions and considerably loosen up the adjacent channel restraints. As it is now, when riding in your car, there are two nearly unusable station on 102.9. They just beat the heck out of each other throughout the intended coverage area (Londonderry) except near the North School transmitter site. The High School location, is also adjacent to the a Middle and Elementary School. Driving by there the WLLO-LP signal gets some co-channel interference. There are certain spots in the library parking lot across the street that if you position your car properly, you can get a good stereo signal from WBLM. The audio quality of WLLO-LP is disappointing. The lows and highs just aren't there. If you adjust your low bass to fit WLLO-LP, you will get a rude awakening when you drive 50 feet and WBLM comes again dominates. Sounds like they over process that audio, quiet passages get very hissy. But what other station can you go from Patsy Cline and segue into Procal Harem. Actually some of their music selections are old seldom played favorite of mine. It's not too often you hear Karla Bonoff on commercial radio. John Derry ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Apr 13 20:08:04 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Apr 13 20:08:05 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today In-Reply-To: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040413200352.01c43f90@pop3.bit-net.com> Chuck Igo wrote: >104.7/106.7 are simulcasting "The Bone," Classic ROCK (ALL classic rock; >nothing remotely "new" heard) with Howard Stern in the morning. >Directly targeting WBLM, in sound and imaging. One sweeper I found >interesting was a partially "bleeped" F-bomb directed at what 'BLM >considers "classic rock." Stern & classic rock seem an odd combination...altrock seems a better fit demo-wise. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Apr 14 01:22:54 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Apr 14 01:23:10 2004 Subject: Could Wang Labs Come Back? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <407C926E.6220.14F3F4@localhost> On 13 Apr 2004 at 16:57, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Amazing. Allaccess.com says sales of radio delay systems > are skyrocketing! This may be the time to resurrect the > Wang Time Tunnel(tm)! Does anybody know how to contact Fred? OK, I'll bite. What's the Wang Time Tunnel (tm)? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From fox893@yahoo.com Wed Apr 14 07:52:21 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Wed Apr 14 07:52:29 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040413200352.01c43f90@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <20040414115221.42509.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> In Burlington, Stern runs on a classic rocker. In that case, I knew a lot people who listened to the station for Stern and then immediately changed the dial(hit a different preset???). > Stern & classic rock seem an odd > combination...altrock seems a better fit > demo-wise. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From sid.whitaker@unh.edu Wed Apr 14 12:51:59 2004 From: sid.whitaker@unh.edu (Sid Whitaker) Date: Wed Apr 14 12:52:36 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today In-Reply-To: <000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> <000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <1081961519.407d6c2f8f167@webmail.unh.edu> Dan's point about putting "The Bone" format on 107.5 was my question too, as I tried in vain this morning to get 106.7 or 104.7 on my clock radio in Portland, while 107.5 was an easy catch. The trouble wasn't entirely my radio though; 104.7 spent some time this morning off air (confirmed when I punched up 104.7 in my car a short time later and got Belfast). By comparison, the 107.5 signal blankets all of Portland, Lewiston, and everything within a 50+ mile radius and is solid deep into York county; heck, it's listenable all the way to Portsmouth. If you're going after 'BLM, it would seem to make more sense to use your best signal to do so... Interesting that we now have Stern in this market; some 10+ years after his national debut, and interesting timing as well. I wonder what Nassau's paying to get him on in North Windham/Kennebunkport. I'll be curious to see what listeners around here think. Ray Routhier had a piece in today's Press Herald about Nassau's new formats. http://www.pressherald.com/news/local/040414newradio.shtml Sid Whitaker Quoting Dan Billings : >> Now that I think about it: Wouldn't it have made more sense to put Classic > Rock on WBLM's former frequency at 107.5, which would also provide a signal > strong enough to really challenge the Blimp? > > The 106.7/104.7 simulcast would have been given enough coverage to challenge > Oldies 100.9, which is not one of the stronger signals in the market. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > From n1qgs@yahoo.com Wed Apr 14 14:29:20 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed Apr 14 14:29:24 2004 Subject: WLLO-LP - Part of EAS or not Message-ID: <20040414182920.8999.qmail@web12504.mail.yahoo.com> Hello According to LPFM rules I see: 5. LPFM stations will be required to broadcast a minimum of 36 hours per week and participate in the EAS system. Last night both WMUR TV 9 and WNDS TV 50 broadcast the Flood Watch around 10:30pm, if I receall. I had WLLO-LP 102.9 on in the background, and I never heard the alert/NOAA Flood watch there. John ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From n1qgs@yahoo.com Wed Apr 14 14:44:46 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Wed Apr 14 14:44:50 2004 Subject: WLLO-LP radiates in horizontal plane only Message-ID: <20040414184446.63298.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> I noticed that WLLO-LP 102.9 Londonderry NH radiates their 100watts in the horizontal plane only. This could explain why they do not come in very well while driving in a car with a vertical antenna. Is this typical or unusual for a LPFM to transmit in one plane only. John ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Apr 14 17:08:44 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Apr 14 17:08:58 2004 Subject: Could Wang Labs Come Back? Message-ID: >DATE: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 01:22:54 >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: lglavin@lycos.com Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >On 13 Apr 2004 at 16:57, Laurence Glavin wrote: > >> Amazing. Allaccess.com says sales of radio delay systems >> are skyrocketing! This may be the time to resurrect the >> Wang Time Tunnel(tm)! Does anybody know how to contact Fred? > >OK, I'll bite. What's the Wang Time Tunnel (tm)? > >-- >A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com >Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > I believe some people here once derived a paycheck from Wang Laboratories, a now essentially defunct computer and software company, remembered solely for a gargantuan performance space in the theahtah district of Boston. Ok, going back to even before the towers on Industrial Ave were built, Wang offered dedicated WP devices, desktop calculators, and something called the Time Tunnel. It was designed to take the input of a radio station running a talk show, store it in something akin to random access memory, then 7 seconds later, retrieve it and send it on to the line. The selling point: no moving parts! I was told that WBZ-AM used one, but after some other product lines took off, like the VS minicomputer, the Doctor's attention was diverted elsewhere, and production of the TT was squelched. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Apr 14 17:17:07 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Apr 14 17:17:25 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today Message-ID: >DATE: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:08:04 >From: SteveOrdinetz >To: >Chuck Igo wrote: >>104.7/106.7 are simulcasting "The Bone," Classic ROCK (ALL classic rock; >>nothing remotely "new" heard) with Howard Stern in the morning. >>Directly targeting WBLM, in sound and imaging. One sweeper I found >>interesting was a partially "bleeped" F-bomb directed at what 'BLM >>considers "classic rock." > You folks in the number two-rated tax-burdened State of Maine don't get "Let's Talk About Radio" any more, so you wouldn't be aware that Bob Bitner lauded Maine for being a HowardStern-free state. No more. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Apr 14 19:23:51 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Wed Apr 14 19:23:58 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> <000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <1081961519.407d6c2f8f167@webmail.unh.edu> Message-ID: <001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Air America is on in Portland, but gone in LA and Chicago due to a dispute about payments with the station owner. Not a good sign for a new concern. http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm From sven@gordsven.com Wed Apr 14 19:34:18 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Wed Apr 14 19:34:31 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today In-Reply-To: <001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Dan Billings wrote: > Air America is on in Portland, but gone in LA and Chicago due to a dispute > about payments with the station owner. Not a good sign for a new concern. The "dispute" is becasue A.A. passed owner Arthur Liu a rubber check. Real smart, guys... -- Sven From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Apr 14 19:54:20 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Apr 14 19:54:22 2004 Subject: Could Wang Labs Come Back? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040414194750.01b79438@pop3.bit-net.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: >I believe some people here once derived a paycheck from >Wang Laboratories, a now essentially defunct computer >and software company, >Ok, going back to even before the towers on Industrial Ave were >built, Wang offered dedicated WP devices, desktop calculators, >and something called the Time Tunnel. It was designed >to take the input of a radio station running a talk show, store >it in something akin to random access memory, then 7 seconds later, >retrieve it and send it on to the line. The selling >point: no moving parts! I was told that WBZ-AM used one, >but after some other product lines took off, like the VS >minicomputer, the Doctor's attention was diverted >elsewhere, and production of the TT was squelched. I worked there from '70-73 and I don't remember such a product, though they did seem to have some odd custom one-of-a-kind products out there. As lead tech of the repair center's "special products'" group I had to try and figure out a good number of them with limited or no documentation. One of which was installed at some chicken farm in Conn. that was supposed to count and grade eggs. That was a real joy...the control unit was covered with feathers and other disgusting chicken "byproducts". From mlaurence@mindspring.com Wed Apr 14 20:04:41 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Wed Apr 14 20:04:33 2004 Subject: Air America (was Re: Nassau Flipped Today) In-Reply-To: <001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <7E9A04BA-8E70-11D8-B7D9-000393D13824@mindspring.com> On Wednesday, April 14, 2004, at 07:23 PM, Dan Billings wrote: > Air America is on in Portland, but gone in LA and Chicago due to a > dispute > about payments with the station owner. Not a good sign for a new > concern. > > http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm Randi Rhodes (PM drive host on Air America) interviewed one of the Air America managers this afternoon about the situation. I don't remember his name, sorry. Their story is that the stations' owner, Multicultural Broadcasting, was "double dipping," as they put it. It sounds like their claim is that Air America is being charged for time already sold to previous broadcasters. Air America claims there's no funding problem with their payments, but they stopped payment when they learned of Multicultural's dealings. The manager stated on the air that Multicultural was "stealing" from Air America. The Chicago Tribune website quotes both sides in the developing legal dispute, but doesn't back either side with independent verification. I don't claim to know who's correct, but I wouldn't accept Drudge's story without question. Doesn't the payment in dispute seem way too big considering that Air America has really only used a week or so of broadcast time on two AM stations without ratings? Meanwhile, Al Franken had an interesting guest today: Walter Cronkite was in the studio for an hour, in which he talked about being a Deadhead and his friendship with Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart. Mark From maine.radio@verizon.net Wed Apr 14 20:17:46 2004 From: maine.radio@verizon.net (Jason Roberts - WCTB/WHQO/WSKW) Date: Wed Apr 14 20:17:53 2004 Subject: Air America References: <7E9A04BA-8E70-11D8-B7D9-000393D13824@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <000901c4227f$15a01460$6501010a@LAPTOP> And the sequel to the "Multicultural Shoots Down Air America" story is the "Air America Files for Breach" story. The Smoking Gun has a copy of the document filed today with the New York Supreme Court in which Air America requests a temporary restraining order. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0414043air1.html -J. Jason Roberts VP / Station Manager WCTB - WHQO - WSKW 208 Middle Road P.O. Box 159 Skowhegan, ME 04976 207-474-5171 From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Apr 14 21:10:29 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Wed Apr 14 21:10:48 2004 Subject: Air America (was Re: Nassau Flipped Today) References: <7E9A04BA-8E70-11D8-B7D9-000393D13824@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <002701c42286$72eaf7a0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> I don't know the merits but the fact is the network is off the air in LA and Chicago. That has to effect their advertising revenue (if they have any). From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Thu Apr 15 04:30:11 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Apr 15 04:30:21 2004 Subject: Media Blitz: WEEI-FM 103.7 debuts two weeks early Message-ID: <20040415083011.54660.qmail@web60805.mail.yahoo.com> http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/blitz John Molori's Media Blitz (and thanks to Boston Radio Watch for the heads up!) reports that the new "WEEI-FM" 103.7 in the Providence market will actually debut this Friday, April 16, two weeks earlier than originally planned. "WEEI-FM"--no "soft rock" though :) From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Thu Apr 15 04:40:07 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Apr 15 04:40:15 2004 Subject: Could Wang Labs Come Back? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040415084007.79537.qmail@web60807.mail.yahoo.com> --- Laurence Glavin wrote: > something called the Time Tunnel. It was > designed > to take the input of a radio station running a talk > show, store > it in something akin to random access memory, then 7 > seconds later, > retrieve it and send it on to the line. This is the second time I've ever heard of the Wang Time Tunnel. There's a long running live "sound collage" radio show on KPFA, "Over the Edge", which sometimes features media satirists Negativland. On a tape of one such show, group member David Wills was heard saying, "I'm gonna ask the listeners: please do not 'cuss' on the air. We do NOT have a Wang Time Tunnel..." The show features live input from callers, be it talk or sound clips. From paul@03038.com Thu Apr 15 09:26:07 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu Apr 15 09:26:06 2004 Subject: 103.7 goes 'EEI Simulcast early In-Reply-To: <001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <006801c422ed$b70d1d20$0e87fea9@q0002> WEEI has anounced that tomorrow (Friday 16th) at 6AM, 103.7 Westerly RI begins simulcasting WEEI, moving up from the original May 1st date. -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH (No, I cannot get WWRX or whatever the calls are now, with 'KNE and 'PQK hoggin the channel....though I did get WHJY/Providence knocking out WFTN-FM/Franklin in Manchester on Tuesday) From paul@03038.com Thu Apr 15 09:33:42 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Thu Apr 15 09:30:21 2004 Subject: Media Blitz: WEEI-FM 103.7 debuts two weeks early In-Reply-To: <20040415083011.54660.qmail@web60805.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006e01c422ee$4d9cd0a0$0e87fea9@q0002> If WEEI-FM (the Boston 103.3 version) existed today, do you think they'd still use the "Under the softrock rainbow" window stickers today? -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 AM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Media Blitz: WEEI-FM 103.7 debuts two weeks early http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/blitz John Molori's Media Blitz (and thanks to Boston Radio Watch for the heads up!) reports that the new "WEEI-FM" 103.7 in the Providence market will actually debut this Friday, April 16, two weeks earlier than originally planned. "WEEI-FM"--no "soft rock" though :) From nostaticatall@comcast.net Wed Apr 14 01:25:27 2004 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu Apr 15 12:26:57 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today In-Reply-To: <000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> <000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <2379D5C4-8DD4-11D8-9B15-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> All Access is reporting that 1470 will be a "50's, 60's & 70's" based AC. Basically that means "standards." There was no mention of a satellite service so my guess is that it will be local, or at least locally automated. 870 will launch it's liberal leaning talk format sometime tomorrow. Air America will provide most of the programming. No word yet if there will be any local talk on 870. --Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Apr 13, 2004, at 6:50 PM, Dan Billings wrote: > 1470 is a nostalgia format using WLAM jingles. I did not listen long > enough > to figure out whether it was a satellite service or something else. > > When I tuned in 870 after 5 tonight, they were running a John Kerry > speech. > > Do the 106.7 and 104.7 signals cover the market well enough to make an > impact? 106.7 is not listenable in the Freeport/Brunswick area, which > is in > the Portland Metro, and is even a little scratchy in downtown > Portland. Of > course, a couple of points out of WBLM will really shake up the market. > 104.7 covers the York County coast well, but that area is not in the > Portland Metro. > > The new format at 107.5 will give Chuck and my other former co-workers > at > Oldies 100.9 a challenge, but I'm sure they are up to it. The station > is > solid as is and Saga will do what they need to do to protect a > profitable > franchise. > > Now that I think about it: Wouldn't it have made more sense to put > Classic > Rock on WBLM's former frequency at 107.5, which would also provide a > signal > strong enough to really challenge the Blimp? > > The 106.7/104.7 simulcast would have been given enough coverage to > challenge > Oldies 100.9, which is not one of the stronger signals in the market. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > From nostaticatall@comcast.net Wed Apr 14 01:39:06 2004 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu Apr 15 12:26:58 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040413200352.01c43f90@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20040413200352.01c43f90@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <0BC1B33E-8DD6-11D8-9B15-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> Not really. Stern's strength is delivering 25-54 men, precisely the demos the Bone wants. In fact, his 18-34 male numbers have been slipping pretty steadily over the last few years. Despite that, Alternative stations that have been running Stern for years are hesitant to take him off or move him to a sister station targeting older demos because of the amount of revenue the show generates. Take Stern off of WXRK in New York and you'd have a 1.5 share station. Still, you have to wonder how long he can last on stations that have different demo targets the rest of the day. Just like Charles Laquidera was dispatched to WZLX in favor of Stern in the mid 90's, look for younger-skewing stations, WBCN included, to eventually do the same with Stern in the next couple of years--if the FCC doesn't force his show off the air entirely. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Apr 13, 2004, at 8:08 PM, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Stern & classic rock seem an odd combination...altrock seems a better > fit demo-wise. > From kvahey@tmail.com Thu Apr 15 13:16:40 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu Apr 15 13:16:56 2004 Subject: Air America grounded in dispute over money (Chicago Sun-Times) Message-ID: <1082049400.332D6DF9@s5.dngr.org> Air America is off the air in LA and Chicago as there is a dispute with the station owners about being paid. The story from the media critic of the Chicago Sun Times http://www.suntimes.com/output/feder/cst-fin-feder15.html From tmw207@adelphia.net Thu Apr 15 13:27:37 2004 From: tmw207@adelphia.net (Terry Wood) Date: Thu Apr 15 13:27:48 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com><000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><1081961519.407d6c2f8f167@webmail.unh.edu> <001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <002701c4230e$f320e4b0$ba64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> It seems as though Drudge got it wrong again, They stopped payment when Multi cultural, tried holding them up for more money and when they attemted to negotiate, they pulled the plug. They did not bounce a check to them, they are not in dire straights. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Billings" To: "Sid Whitaker" Cc: "Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Nassau Flipped Today > Air America is on in Portland, but gone in LA and Chicago due to a dispute > about payments with the station owner. Not a good sign for a new concern. > > http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm > > > From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Thu Apr 15 13:38:38 2004 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Thu Apr 15 13:38:49 2004 Subject: WLLO-LP 102.9 Londonderry - more comments In-Reply-To: <20040413234352.71763.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040415173838.21337.qmail@web40513.mail.yahoo.com> As a big supporter for LPFM, I expect that WLLO-LP is going through "growing pains", trying to get all of the kinks out of their equipment. Give them a chance and they just might surprise you. As for the EAS bit, I'm sure they will get it all together. With "The Man from Mars" running the NH EAS program, I'm sure the citizens of NH are well prepared for any emergency. Here in the South Shore of Boston we have a high school station at Rockland High School, WRPS-FM (88.3). While it is not an LPFM per-say, it is a grandfathered Class A, which came to the air in January, 1974 as a mono Class D (10 watt) on 91.5. Today, it is 24/7, 100 watt Stereo station. During the school year, the kids have a practical experience after school, on the air. All other times, it is automated Hot Top-40 music in Stereo. I might not like the music at times, but I like the fact that they cater quite well to the Rockland community and beyond. They also provide coverage of the Rockland School Committee meetings and the yearly Town Meeting. All in all, it's a good sounding station. Support these small stations. They are the only means for LOCAL and live programming left, to some cities in towns that get nothing but "lip service" from the full-powered stations. 73, Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts --- John Bolduc wrote: > My typo, 102.9 > > I find that 102.7 and 103.1 would have been much > better choices of > frequencies to use, even though you have adjacent > 102.5 WCRB and 103.3 > WODS to think about. > > Personally I think they should tighten up the > co-channel restrictions and > considerably loosen up the adjacent channel > restraints. > > > As it is now, when riding in your car, there are two > nearly unusable > station on 102.9. They just beat the heck out of > each other throughout the > intended coverage area (Londonderry) except near the > North School > transmitter site. > > The High School location, is also adjacent to the a > Middle and Elementary > School. Driving by there the WLLO-LP signal gets > some co-channel > interference. There are certain spots in the library > parking lot across > the street that if you position your car properly, > you can get a good > stereo signal from WBLM. > > > The audio quality of WLLO-LP is disappointing. The > lows and highs just > aren't there. If you adjust your low bass to fit > WLLO-LP, you will get a > rude awakening when you drive 50 feet and WBLM comes > again dominates. > Sounds like they over process that audio, quiet > passages get very hissy. > > But what other station can you go from Patsy Cline > and segue into Procal > Harem. Actually some of their music selections are > old seldom played > favorite of mine. It's not too often you hear Karla > Bonoff on commercial > radio. > > > > John > Derry > > > ===== > New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire > Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire > history, photos for New Hampshire and New England > at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ===== Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Apr 15 13:39:07 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Apr 15 13:39:13 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today In-Reply-To: <002701c4230e$f320e4b0$ba64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com><000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><1081961519.407d6c2f8f167@webmail.unh.edu> <001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <002701c4230e$f320e4b0$ba64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Message-ID: <51847.216.204.15.170.1082050747.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> > It seems as though Drudge got it wrong again, They stopped payment when > Multi cultural, tried holding them up for more money and when they > attemted to negotiate, they pulled the plug. They did not bounce a > check to them, they are not in dire straights. This whole thing sounds fishy. I wonder if AA is intentionally trying to sabotage itself so it can claim that the Great Right Wing Conspiracy ? prevented them from getting their message out. The fact that even with all the hype they were only able to get on a few dog stations in a handful of cities seems a bit odd as well. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Apr 15 15:02:35 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu Apr 15 15:03:15 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com><000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><1081961519.407d6c2f8f167@webmail.unh.edu><001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><002701c4230e$f320e4b0$ba64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> <51847.216.204.15.170.1082050747.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <001301c4231c$3b8d7800$19eefea9@dstrassberg> A couple of months ago, I speculated on this list and elsewhere that the insistence of what became Air America on purchasing major-market signals, as opposed to LMAing them, was a strategem intended to enable the company to demonstrate a conspiracy against its being heard. However, it appeared that reason had prevailed. I've not seen any applications for transfer of control of any of the stations on which Air America's programming is or was being heard. As far as I know, the network is purchasing time on all of those stations. The most likely explanation for Liu's pulling Air America's programming in LA and Chicago is that some independent program producer that thought it had a deal with Liu for time on WNTD or KBLA discovered that the programs weren't being aired. The producer probably called both Liu and Air America and said "Hey, we PAID for that time," at which point, Air America stopped payment on its check. I suspect that when all the facts are sorted out, we'll discover that Liu returned the independent producer's check once he decided to substitute Air America for the other paid programming. Since Liu has multiple properties in LA (and I think also in Chicago), he is likely offer time on other stations to make good the time the independent producer thought had been paid for. And BTW, at least one of Air America's stations cannot be called a dog signal--though it is an AM. The Portland OR affiliate is the former KGW 620. I don't know who owns the station, but I do know that it lost its Tx site a few years ago and now diplexes from the KEX 1190 sticks. Although I don't know what that move did to the signal, it used to be, and probably still is, one of the better AM signals in Portland. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: SteveOrdinetz To: Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:39 PM Subject: Re: Nassau Flipped Today > > It seems as though Drudge got it wrong again, They stopped payment when > > Multi cultural, tried holding them up for more money and when they > > attemted to negotiate, they pulled the plug. They did not bounce a > > check to them, they are not in dire straights. > > This whole thing sounds fishy. I wonder if AA is intentionally trying to > sabotage itself so it can claim that the Great Right Wing Conspiracy ? > prevented them from getting their message out. The fact that even with > all the hype they were only able to get on a few dog stations in a handful > of cities seems a bit odd as well. > > From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Apr 15 15:33:57 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Apr 15 15:34:04 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today In-Reply-To: <2379D5C4-8DD4-11D8-9B15-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> <000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <2379D5C4-8DD4-11D8-9B15-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20040415153237.0284c848@mail.mac.com> At 01:25 AM 4/14/2004, David Tomm wrote: >All Access is reporting that 1470 will be a "50's, 60's & 70's" based >AC. Basically that means "standards." It does? That sounds like oldies to me. >870 will launch it's liberal leaning talk format sometime tomorrow. Air >America will provide most of the programming. It started yesterday! -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Apr 15 15:39:25 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Apr 15 15:39:30 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20040415153237.0284c848@mail.mac.com> References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> <000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <2379D5C4-8DD4-11D8-9B15-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> <6.1.0.6.2.20040415153237.0284c848@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <200404151939.i3FJdP62009459@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: >> 870 will launch it's liberal leaning talk format sometime tomorrow. Air >> America will provide most of the programming. > It started yesterday! Just so you know, Mike/David's message was delayed in getting out to the list because he sent it from a different address, and I only just got around to approving it. -GAWollman From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Apr 15 16:00:16 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Apr 15 15:59:29 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today Message-ID: <200404151600.AA1160315006@mail.ttlc.net> >David Tomm wrote: >>All Access is reporting that 1470 will be a "50's, 60's & 70's" based >>AC. Basically that means "standards." > Larry Weil responded: >It does? That sounds like oldies to me. > If the phrase 50's-based AC is being used, I'd call it standards. IMO, unless "High School Confidential" and "Jailhouse Rock" now qualify as AC, they are Oldies. From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Apr 15 16:09:53 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Apr 15 16:10:03 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today In-Reply-To: <200404151600.AA1160315006@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200404151600.AA1160315006@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20040415160612.0284bd08@mail.mac.com> At 04:00 PM 4/15/2004, rogerkirk wrote: > >David Tomm wrote: > >>All Access is reporting that 1470 will be a "50's, 60's & 70's" based > >>AC. Basically that means "standards." > > >Larry Weil responded: > >It does? That sounds like oldies to me. > > > >If the phrase 50's-based AC is being used, I'd call it >standards. IMO, unless "High School Confidential" and >"Jailhouse Rock" now qualify as AC, they are Oldies. The fact that the description included 60's and 70's is what made me think the format is basically not standards, although it could include some. I mean, there are people doing standards to this very day, but if someone said a station has a contemporary format, I would not think of standards. If a format was described as 40's and 50's, then I would probably think of standards. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Apr 15 16:14:27 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Apr 15 16:14:31 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today In-Reply-To: <200404151600.AA1160315006@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200404151600.AA1160315006@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <54179.216.204.15.170.1082060067.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Roger Kirk wrote:>> > > If the phrase 50's-based AC is being used, I'd call it > standards. IMO, unless "High School Confidential" and > "Jailhouse Rock" now qualify as AC, they are Oldies. I dunno...WPTR was mixing in 50s rock & roll on their "legends" format at least when they were on 1540. I'm pretty sure they were still considering it standards. It was weird hearing "Jailhouse Rock" cold-segue into some Patti Page ballad. From markwats@comcast.net Thu Apr 15 16:48:57 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Apr 15 16:48:06 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com><000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <2379D5C4-8DD4-11D8-9B15-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007201c4232b$13674f40$64f88018@markscomputer> David Tomm wrote: > All Access is reporting that 1470 will be a "50's, 60's & 70's" based > AC. Basically that means "standards." Isn't the format that WPLM-FM (99.1 Plymouth MA) has a 50's, 60's and 70's based AC? Maybe that's what 1470 in Lewiston ME is doing, although I can't confirm that since I can't get them here (Lowell MA) day or night. BTW, are the calls on 1470 in Lewiston still WZOU or has Nassau changed them? Mark Watson From markwats@comcast.net Thu Apr 15 16:57:39 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Apr 15 16:57:28 2004 Subject: The Boston Herald Caught A Case Of "Clea Simon Disease" Message-ID: <007e01c4232c$62da1890$64f88018@markscomputer> I read an article in today's Boston Herald (in the regular news section) about the almost summerlike weather predicted for this Monday's running of the Boston Marathon and how that will affect runners taking part in the race. The article quoted WHDH-TV meterologist Harvey Leonard as predicting Monday's high temperature could hit 81 degrees. Harvey Leonard hasn't worked for WHDH-TV for almost 2 years now if memory serves me correctly, he's now at WCVB Channel 5. And no the reporter wasn't Clea Simon, but he/she apparently caught a case of "Clea Simon Disease". Mark Watson From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Apr 15 16:57:40 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Apr 15 16:57:58 2004 Subject: Latest From Misty The Wonder Dog Message-ID: For Mainers who feel left out because "Let's Talk About Radio" is absent from WJTO, Misty the Wonder Dog ("we paws for station identification") sent me a heads-up to the effect that LTAR may soon reappearin Vacationland. No details yet though. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Apr 15 17:27:14 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Apr 15 17:27:36 2004 Subject: Savage Shuffling Message-ID: According to Radio&Records Online, Michael Savage will be changing his live airshift on the west coast from 4:00 to 7:00 pm to 3:00 to 6:00 pm so WOR-AM 710 in New York can air it live in its entirety from 6:00 to 9:00 pm eastern time. This of course affects WRKO-AM which I don't think will want to bump Howie Carr's final hour. Thus they may go to a modified 'TKK and carry M.S. live for the first 2 hours and tape delay from 9:00 to 10:00. ('TKK I believe does something similar with the "O'Reilly Sphincter".) This seems to be a major accommodation to WOR's needs by Savage's (Weiner's) syndicator; other stations in this and other time zones would be similarly affected. Lowell's WCAP-AM could opt for the 6:00 to 9:00 scenario and claim to be the only source of Savage live throughout! ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From markwats@comcast.net Thu Apr 15 17:37:02 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Apr 15 17:36:08 2004 Subject: Savage Shuffling References: Message-ID: <009601c42331$ca759650$64f88018@markscomputer> Laurence Glavin wrote: > According to Radio&Records Online, Michael Savage will > be changing his live airshift on the west coast from > 4:00 to 7:00 pm to 3:00 to 6:00 pm so WOR-AM 710 in > New York can air it live in its entirety from 6:00 to > 9:00 pm eastern time. This of course affects WRKO-AM > which I don't think will want to bump Howie Carr's > final hour. > Lowell's WCAP-AM could opt for the 6:00 to 9:00 scenario and > claim to be the only source of Savage live throughout! Maybe not, at least during the Summer. Once again this year WCAP will be the home of Lowell Spinners baseball. The 2004 gets underway on June 17, all weeknight home & away games get underway at 7:05 PM, with the pre-game show taking to the air 15 minutes prior. Except for a couple of scheduled nights off during the season or if a game gets rained out, WCAP won't be carrying too much of Michael Savage between June 17 and Labor Day weekend. Mark Watson From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Apr 15 17:48:05 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Apr 15 17:47:15 2004 Subject: The Boston Herald Caught A Case Of "Clea Simon Disease" Message-ID: <200404151748.AA1186726086@mail.ttlc.net> Perhaps we should be more charitable and refer to it as CSS (Clea Simon Syndrome). From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Apr 15 18:06:06 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu Apr 15 18:06:31 2004 Subject: The Boston Herald Caught A Case Of "Clea Simon Disease" In-Reply-To: <200404151748.AA1186726086@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <005901c42335$da4d62c0$c3ec33d1@alvin> Excuse me, we use that name - CSS Inc! I'd prefer not to have it disparaged. :-) Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of rogerkirk > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:48 PM > To: Mark Watson; BRI > Subject: Re: The Boston Herald Caught A Case Of "Clea Simon Disease" > > > Perhaps we should be more charitable and refer to it > as CSS (Clea Simon Syndrome). > From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 15 18:34:05 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Apr 15 18:34:11 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com><000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><1081961519.407d6c2f8f167@webmail.unh.edu> <001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <002701c4230e$f320e4b0$ba64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Message-ID: <001801c42339$c2966240$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Wood" To: "Dan Billings" ; "Sid Whitaker" Cc: "Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Nassau Flipped Today > It seems as though Drudge got it wrong again, They stopped payment when > Multi cultural, tried holding them up for more money and when they attemted > to negotiate, they pulled the plug. They did not bounce a check to them, > they are not in dire straights. They are off the air in two of the biggest markets in the country. Whatever the reason, that is trouble for a new network. It certainly will make sales hard until the issue is resolved. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 15 18:38:48 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Apr 15 18:38:52 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com><000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <2379D5C4-8DD4-11D8-9B15-000A95DCEF88@comcast.net> <007201c4232b$13674f40$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <003801c4233a$6b4e5eb0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Watson" To: "David Tomm" ; "Dan Billings" Cc: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Nassau Flipped Today >> BTW, are the calls on 1470 in Lewiston still WZOU or has Nassau changed > them? I think they took the WLAM calls back when they changed 870 and 106.7 to WMTW. They are now using WLAM as the calls, though I have not heard a legal ID. From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Apr 15 22:24:48 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Apr 15 22:24:48 2004 Subject: Savage Shuffling In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040415222208.01b04d58@pop3.bit-net.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: > Thus they may go to a modified 'TKK >and carry M.S. live for the first 2 hours and tape delay >from 9:00 to 10:00. ('TKK I believe does something similar >with the "O'Reilly Sphincter".) Dunno if they still do this but when O'Reilly debuted the show ran continuously from noon 'til I believe 8pm E.T. They'd repeat hour 1 in the even # hours and hour 2 in the odd hours. WTPL dropped the show last summer so I don't know if this is still true, but I'd imagine it is. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Apr 16 00:54:46 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Apr 16 00:55:23 2004 Subject: The Boston Herald Caught A Case Of "Clea Simon Disease" In-Reply-To: <007e01c4232c$62da1890$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <407F2ED6.22602.738161@localhost> On 15 Apr 2004 at 16:57, Mark Watson wrote: > I read an article in today's Boston Herald (in the regular news > section) > about the almost summerlike weather predicted for this Monday's running of > the Boston Marathon and how that will affect runners taking part in the > race. I seem to remember a marathon day back in the 80s when the temperature was in the 90s. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Fri Apr 16 01:56:21 2004 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Fri Apr 16 01:56:24 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today Message-ID: <20040416055621.43263.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> If you ask me, I would say WMGX has some worrying to do! The artists mentioned on the Nassau press release mentions all artists played on 'MGX, such as Fleetwood Mac, The Rolling Stones, The Eagles, The Steve Miller Band, and Elton John. My observation of WMGX prior to leaving Maine last year was they were playing far too many new unfamiliar songs. Not exactly the thing to do when targeting the office crowd. Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA The new format at 107.5 will give Chuck and my other former co-workers at Oldies 100.9 a challenge, but I'm sure they are up to it. The station is solid as is and Saga will do what they need to do to protect a profitable franchise. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From tmw207@adelphia.net Fri Apr 16 12:14:30 2004 From: tmw207@adelphia.net (Terry Wood) Date: Fri Apr 16 12:14:40 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com><000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><1081961519.407d6c2f8f167@webmail.unh.edu><001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><002701c4230e$f320e4b0$ba64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> <51847.216.204.15.170.1082050747.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <000d01c423cd$e6896b90$db64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Well the news is that they won and Arthur lost! ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:39 PM Subject: Re: Nassau Flipped Today > > It seems as though Drudge got it wrong again, They stopped payment when > > Multi cultural, tried holding them up for more money and when they > > attemted to negotiate, they pulled the plug. They did not bounce a > > check to them, they are not in dire straights. > > This whole thing sounds fishy. I wonder if AA is intentionally trying to > sabotage itself so it can claim that the Great Right Wing Conspiracy ? > prevented them from getting their message out. The fact that even with > all the hype they were only able to get on a few dog stations in a handful > of cities seems a bit odd as well. > > From ka1mvk@hotmail.com Fri Apr 16 13:11:13 2004 From: ka1mvk@hotmail.com (Andy Soule) Date: Fri Apr 16 13:11:21 2004 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 8, Issue 140 Message-ID: Actually, while Saga may have a little erosion on those stations, the real target appears to be WBLM. With two shots against them and And with the wolf at reduced coverage, WPOR stands to be the big winner when the dust settles. Andy Soule -------------------------- >From : Roy Lawrence To : bri@bostonradio.org Subject : Nassau Flipped Today Sent : Friday, April 16, 2004 1:56 AM If you ask me, I would say WMGX has some worrying to do! The artists mentioned on the Nassau press release mentions all artists played on 'MGX, such as Fleetwood Mac, The Rolling Stones, The Eagles, The Steve Miller Band, and Elton John. My observation of WMGX prior to leaving Maine last year was they were playing far too many new unfamiliar songs. Not exactly the thing to do when targeting the office crowd. Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From mixer@zoso.net Fri Apr 16 15:31:03 2004 From: mixer@zoso.net (Jeremy Mixer) Date: Fri Apr 16 14:28:20 2004 Subject: Nassau's flip/ Frank & the Bone In-Reply-To: <000d01c423cd$e6896b90$db64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com><000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><1081961519.407d6c2f8f167@webmail.unh.edu><001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><002701c4230e$f320e4b0$ba64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> <51847.216.204.15.170.1082050747.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> <000d01c423cd$e6896b90$db64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Message-ID: After a lot of listening to both the Bone and Frank-FM, it sounds to me almost like they took WBLM's format and split it into two. The lighter stuff is on Frank, while the more heavy rock is on the Bone. The newest music I have heard on the Bone was "Fly Away" by Lenny Kravits which came out around 1998 or 1999. The big difference is that they really are not playing anything new, not even the new Cheap Trick, Aerosmith, Clapton, etc. Frank is alnmost on a level between the formats of WBLM and WMGX, but closer to the WBLM format then that of WMGX. It will be interesting to see the impacts this makes in the Arbs- and it will also be interesting to see how this station chooses to compete with a station like WBLM which has had a reputation for as long as it has. The following are examples of liners I have heard on the bone: "We surveyed tons of males in the Portland area and asked them what they wanted out of a radio station in Portland. They told us to f*** off. So we decided to give you a REAL classic rock radio station that only plays REAL classic rock, unlike those candy-asses at BLM. Mama's boys...." "The blimp? It's more like a limp **** (use your imagination, whatever was bleeped out, there are many things you could put there) It is coming across like it is going to be a station with attitude, aiming for the younger WBLM listeners who want more Black Sabbath, Zeppelin, etc, and less Fleetwood Mac, Marshall Tucker, etc. Jeremy From sid.whitaker@unh.edu Fri Apr 16 14:44:44 2004 From: sid.whitaker@unh.edu (Sid Whitaker) Date: Fri Apr 16 14:45:15 2004 Subject: Nassau's flip/ Frank & the Bone In-Reply-To: References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com><000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><1081961519.407d6c2f8f167@webmail.unh.edu><001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><002701c4230e$f320e4b0$ba64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> <51847.216.204.15.170.1082050747.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> <000d01c423cd$e6896b90$db64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Message-ID: <1082141084.4080299cc0801@webmail.unh.edu> As Jeremy mentions, the interesting question is: can three rimshot stations that have never been significant players in Portland unseat WBLM and WMGX---two Portland stations that have dominated the market for decades? And what will it take to do it? Old habits die hard, and IMHO, for many listeners around here, BLM and MGX are habitual choices: rarely questioned, almost never second-guessed. The 107.5 signal certainly covers the market, but unlike BLM and MGX, I don't think I've ever seen 107.5 on a car preset around here, or heard it an office. I've noticed that Nassau has started running TV ads for "Frank" on WMTW, but my guess is it will take nothing short of a tidal wave of marketing and promotion just to clue people in to the existence of these stations, and something approaching a miracle to pull them away from BLM and MGX in sizeable numbers. We'll see. Sid Whitaker Quoting Jeremy Mixer > > It will be interesting to see the impacts this makes in the Arbs- and it > will also be interesting to see how this station chooses to compete with a > station like WBLM which has had a reputation for as long as it has. > From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Apr 16 19:04:37 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri Apr 16 19:04:42 2004 Subject: Nassau's flip/ Frank & the Bone References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com><000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><1081961519.407d6c2f8f167@webmail.unh.edu><001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><002701c4230e$f320e4b0$ba64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1><51847.216.204.15.170.1082050747.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com><000d01c423cd$e6896b90$db64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Message-ID: <001001c42407$3137fba0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Will jocks eventually be part of the mix at either Frank or the Bone? From kvahey@tmail.com Fri Apr 16 19:45:28 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri Apr 16 19:46:05 2004 Subject: Mel on warpath Message-ID: <1082159129.6F7372D@r31.dngr.org> The NY Post is reporting Viacom/Infinity facing a whopping 1.5M fine by FCC next week because of Howard Stern. http://nypost.com/business/18886.htm From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Apr 16 20:27:39 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri Apr 16 20:27:53 2004 Subject: Nassau's flip/ Frank & the Bone References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com><000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><1081961519.407d6c2f8f167@webmail.unh.edu><001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><002701c4230e$f320e4b0$ba64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1><51847.216.204.15.170.1082050747.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com><000d01c423cd$e6896b90$db64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> <1082141084.4080299cc0801@webmail.unh.edu> Message-ID: <001601c42412$caacf3c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Whitaker" To: "Jeremy Mixer" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Nassau's flip/ Frank & the Bone > As Jeremy mentions, the interesting question is: can three rimshot stations that > have never been significant players in Portland unseat WBLM and WMGX---two > Portland stations that have dominated the market for decades? And what will it > take to do it? Old habits die hard, and IMHO, for many listeners around here, > BLM and MGX are habitual choices: rarely questioned, almost never > second-guessed. The 107.5 signal certainly covers the market, but unlike BLM > and MGX, I don't think I've ever seen 107.5 on a car preset around here, or > heard it an office. WBLM was on 107.5 until the mid 1980's and did fine there. The current 107.5 signal is stronger since they moved the tower to Poland and upped the power. But your other points are sound. WBLM before WCYY was a station poised for a fall because they were still trying to mix in new rock with a mainly classic rock station. Since they started WCYY, they only play new music that fits with the classics and that is mainly stuff by classic rock artists and the format works. WMGX, on the other hand, tries to be all things to all people -- their music is all over the place. It has worked for them without any direct competitor. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Apr 17 18:30:33 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat Apr 17 18:30:39 2004 Subject: Nassau's flip/ Frank & the Bone References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com><000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><1081961519.407d6c2f8f167@webmail.unh.edu><001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><002701c4230e$f320e4b0$ba64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1><51847.216.204.15.170.1082050747.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com><000d01c423cd$e6896b90$db64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> <1082141084.4080299cc0801@webmail.unh.edu> Message-ID: <001001c424cb$99277f00$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> TV ads for Frank are all over Portland TV this weekend. The ad features a young women with music and announcements about the station are coming out of her mouth. I'm sure it is one of those ads that are used all across the county. WBLM used a similar ad in the 1980's featuring a women who was later married to Bruce Springsteen. I wonder if the similarity is just coincidence? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Apr 18 11:10:51 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Apr 18 11:12:02 2004 Subject: "Unlicensed broadcaster" (or something) on 540 AM in Belmont area Message-ID: <001301c42557$70a28ca0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I first noticed this signal on my car radio last Wednesday or Thursday. Of the places I've driven while listening to it, it seems to be strongest (albeit not really stong) between Belmont Center and Waverley Square. Coverage is pretty wide, though; although weaker, the signal did not fade out in East Arlington or Arlington Heights. I even heard it near Kendall Sq Cambridge last night, although I wouldn't say that it was listenable there. I have not tried to pick it up on any radio other than my car radio. I suspect that it isn't strong enough to be received on even the Super Radio III. I'm not sure what name you would use to characterize the music. The first day it was almost 100% instrumental. None of the selections was recognizable to me but all of them seemed to have an alto- or soprano sax carrying the melodic lead. I would describe the tempo of all of the selections as languid. This was over a period of several hours--listening on and off. The next day, there were a lot more vocals and no more saxophones--at least none I remember hearing that day. I guess you might call that day's music soft AC, but very little of what I heard were selections I recognized. At no time have I heard any IDs or announcements. There is little dead air between selections--possibly suggesting that the mix was created for broadcast--as opposed to being just a CD changer. I remember hearing one unusual selection twice (on two different days). It began with a woman speaking to a group of laughing small children who sound as if they are about five years old. This mixes into the woman singing (to the tune of "You Are My Sunshine") "You Are My Raccoon." IIRC, it sounds as if the woman is accompanying herself on the guitar. I wondered whether this cut might have been recorded as some sort of PSA, although I couldn't connect it with any noncommercial entity. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Apr 18 11:52:41 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Apr 18 11:52:44 2004 Subject: "Unlicensed broadcaster" (or something) on 540 AM in Belmont area In-Reply-To: <001301c42557$70a28ca0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <001301c42557$70a28ca0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <200404181552.i3IFqfJU032441@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > At no time have I heard any IDs or announcements. There is little dead air > between selections--possibly suggesting that the mix was created for > broadcast--as opposed to being just a CD changer. These days, you probably wouldn't use a CD changer anyway; you'd use one of the numerous digital media players with the songs on hard drive. These systems, when accompanied by the right options or ``plug-ins'', can sound every bit as ``professional'' as a commercial automation package. (Some stations are actually run ``on the cheap'' using programs like these.) Your clue is the lack of any sort of identification or jock patter. -GAWollman From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Apr 18 15:13:41 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun Apr 18 15:02:48 2004 Subject: "Unlicensed broadcaster" (or something) on 540 AM in Belmont area In-Reply-To: <001301c42557$70a28ca0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: On 4/18/04 11:10 AM, "Dan Strassberg" wrote: > I first noticed this signal on my car radio last Wednesday or Thursday. Of > the places I've driven while listening to it, it seems to be strongest > (albeit not really stong) between Belmont Center and Waverley Square. > Coverage is pretty wide, though; although weaker, the signal did not fade > out in East Arlington or Arlington Heights. I even heard it near Kendall Sq > Cambridge last night, although I wouldn't say that it was listenable there. > > I'm not sure what name you would use to characterize the music. The first > day it was almost 100% instrumental. None of the selections was recognizable > to me but all of them seemed to have an alto- or soprano sax carrying the > melodic lead. I would describe the tempo of all of the selections as > languid. I believe that what you're hearing is actually coming from Dorchester. It's a small radio station (supposed to be a "Part 15") set up by some girls from a local high school (with some sort of faculty or community adult advisement). The format is supposed to be (essentially) "clean" urban contemporary (IE: no "gangsta" rap), which includes the mellow "smooth jazz" type of music often heard on it, which appears to be on a pre-recorded media running 24/7 when there is no live programming. There were a couple of stories in the local newspapers about this when the station launched a couple of months ago, however it was mentioned as only supposed to be covering a small portion of Dorchester/Roxbury. Perhaps that may be the only area where it's loud and clear, I haven't checked in the area, but it's "fringe" signal seems to roll all over greater Boston. I hear it (weakly) here in Somerville and I've heard all over Cambridge, Allston/Brighton, Brookline, Watertown, north into Medford, and west over approximately the eastern half of Newton. Eli Polonsky From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Sun Apr 18 18:47:25 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Apr 18 18:47:32 2004 Subject: "Unlicensed broadcaster" (or something) on 540 AM in Belmont area In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040418224725.71902.qmail@web60802.mail.yahoo.com> > It's a small radio station (supposed to be a "Part > 15") > which > includes the mellow > "smooth jazz" type of music often heard on it I've picked it up here on the North Shore--sounds of smooth jazz on 540. From rac@gabrielmass.com Sun Apr 18 21:49:30 2004 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sun Apr 18 21:48:34 2004 Subject: Air America grounded in dispute over money (Chicago Sun-Times) In-Reply-To: <1082049400.332D6DF9@s5.dngr.org> References: <1082049400.332D6DF9@s5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <4083302A.5030702@gabrielmass.com> Sirius Satellite Radio is adding "Air America" to its lineup starting 4/19: http://www.sirius.com/AirAmerica so I suppose this gives AA national coverage, after a fashion. Does anybody know how the relationship between Sirius and program providers works? Does "Air America" pay for the slot? Given that Sirius now carries the weekday talk shows of PRI, 2 channels of NPR, Air America, its own "Sirius Left" channel, and the gay-oriented "OutQ", I think Sirius customers will not face a shortage of left-wing analysis and opinion. On the conservative side, they have "Sirius Right" and some of the shows on the variety-talk channels. --RC From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Apr 19 00:13:41 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon Apr 19 00:13:54 2004 Subject: Air America grounded in dispute over money (Chicago Sun-Times) In-Reply-To: <4083302A.5030702@gabrielmass.com> References: <1082049400.332D6DF9@s5.dngr.org> <4083302A.5030702@gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: At 9:49 PM -0400 4/18/04, Richard Chonak wrote: >Sirius Satellite Radio is adding "Air America" to its lineup starting 4/19: > http://www.sirius.com/AirAmerica >so I suppose this gives AA national coverage, after a fashion. They've also been on XM Satellite Radio from the start, although some of their programs are pre-empted on XM. On Sirius they will share a stream with live sports coverage, though any programs pre-empted for sports will be aired at a later time. > >Does anybody know how the relationship between Sirius and program >providers works? Does "Air America" pay for the slot? > >Given that Sirius now carries the weekday talk shows of PRI, 2 >channels of NPR, Air America, its own "Sirius Left" channel, and the >gay-oriented "OutQ", I think Sirius customers will not face a >shortage of left-wing analysis and opinion. On the conservative >side, they have "Sirius Right" and some of the shows on the >variety-talk channels. On the right, Sirius carries Fox News Channel, and also numerous right-wing talk programs on the ABC News and Talk stream and on the Talk Central stream. I've been told that the Sirius Trucking Channel is slanted to the right. They also have several streams of Christian programming, which tend I believe (I'll admit, I don't actually listen) to have a right-wing political slant at times. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Apr 19 01:19:57 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Apr 19 01:20:01 2004 Subject: Bill Buchanan Message-ID: <4083293D.21233.31031@localhost> Donna was talking this morning about Bill Buchanan. I remember him as a columnist in the Boston Daily Record, before it was consolidated with the Evening American. And I remember his occasional rants about Top 40 radio. Despite that, I used to enjoy his column, precisely because he wrote about radio. I was in high school at the time, had one of the few FM radios around, and was quite interested in radio, and Bill Buchanan's column was the only one that talked about radio at that time. I had access to all of the Boston morning newspapers at that time because my mother used to bring them home from the hospital where she worked. Patients would give them to her when they finished with them. I once called Bill Buchanan to take issue with his constant putdowns of Top 40 radio. I wanted him to know that some people like that music. He said that what really bothered him was how it came about that those stations switched to that format, hinting that it was something sinister. He said that he wouldn't tell me about it on the phone, but if I came in to see him, he would tell me in person. I said I would, but I never did, and I'm sure he knew that I wouldn't. This, of course, was typical Record-American style: suggest sinister doings without ever giving specifics. One thing I always liked about his column was that he occasionally revealed the real names of Top 40 DJs. He occasionally railed at the practice of DJs using pseudonyms on the air, again suggesting that there was something incredibly sinister about it. When the Record and American were consolidated into the Record-American, Bill Buchanan's column was discontinued. I never discovered his later column in the Globe. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Apr 19 01:19:57 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Apr 19 01:20:12 2004 Subject: College stations and bad language Message-ID: <4083293D.27613.3109E@localhost> Bob and Donna were talking about college stations this morning, and the use of bad language on the air. I'm not up on the latest FCC regs, but I thought it was partly a matter of context and time of day. I've heard the F-word on WMUA, but only late at night, when one assumes that only adults are listening. On altered versions of songs, I remember a song in the early 60s called "My Boomerang Won't Come Back," about an Australian aborigine, the chief's son, who couldn't learn to use his boomerang. In the original, it had a line which went "I waved the thing all over the place, practice till I was black in the face..." After a few weeks, a new version appeared, in which he practiced till he was =blue= in the face. Of course, the use of some bad language goes back quite far. In Gilbert & Sullivan's H.M.S. Pinafore, at one point the captain says "Damme, it's too bad!" The rest of the cast makes a big deal of this. It must have been quite shocking in Victorian England. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From fox893@yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 06:33:21 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Mon Apr 19 06:33:29 2004 Subject: Frank FM TV Message-ID: <20040419103321.30732.qmail@web61107.mail.yahoo.com> I had heard that Nassau was going to be buying a lot of TV time, but hadn't seen anything until last night. I caught an ad for Frank on NBC 6(WCSH) just after Law And Order:CI last night. A very well produced spot and on a station that does well(news-wise, at least). Anyone seen spots for any of the other stations? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 07:55:12 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Apr 19 07:55:21 2004 Subject: College stations and bad language In-Reply-To: <4083293D.27613.3109E@localhost> Message-ID: <20040419115512.28489.qmail@web60810.mail.yahoo.com> --- "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: > On altered versions of songs, I remember a song in > the early 60s called "My Boomerang > Won't Come Back," Yup, have heard about the altered version via Dr. Demento! Van Morrison's "Brown Eyed Girl" had the line "making love in the green grass behind the stadium with you," which got changed to "laughin' and a runnin', hey hey, behind the stadium..." Charlie Daniels "Devil Went Down to Georgia": "'Cause I told you once, you son of a b--ch" became "'Cause I told you once, you son of a gun". And an altered lyric that had nothing to do with cuss words: John Fogerty "got back" at Fantasy Records mogul Saul Zaentz with "Zanz can't dance but he'll steal your money; watch him or he'll rob you blind", which was supposedly about a dancing pig. It was changed to "Vanz Can't Danz". About this time, Fogerty was being sued by Zaentz because Zaentz had the rights to Fogerty's songs and his "Old Man Down the Road" sounded a little TOO close to the Creedence tune "Run Through The Jungle" (Fogerty plagiarizes himself and gets sued for it!) But I digress. From tc@chaostheory.com Thu Apr 15 21:45:44 2004 From: tc@chaostheory.com (tc@chaostheory.com) Date: Mon Apr 19 08:01:30 2004 Subject: Nassau Flipped Today In-Reply-To: <001801c42339$c2966240$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <000001c421a2$74ae1200$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com><000c01c421a9$be06e8d0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af><1081961519.407d6c2f8f167@webmail.unh.edu> <001201c42277$8c2c90c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <002701c4230e$f320e4b0$ba64a545@woodmvc1xkg0r1> <001801c42339$c2966240$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <64946.66.31.55.243.1082079944.squirrel@www.chaostheory.com> > They are off the air in two of the biggest markets in the country. > Whatever the reason, that is trouble for a new network. It certainly > will make sales hard until the issue is resolved. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine They are back on in Chicago, by court injunction. Haven't heard about LA yet. -TC From tc@chaostheory.com Wed Apr 14 11:08:45 2004 From: tc@chaostheory.com (tc@chaostheory.com) Date: Mon Apr 19 08:01:38 2004 Subject: discussion on satellite radio Message-ID: <53861.141.154.96.67.1081955325.squirrel@www.chaostheory.com> With all the talk on satellite radio, I thought this might be of interest to some people-- the Ad Club of Boston is holding "a breakfast panel discussion on Satellite Radio and its impact on terrestrial radio in Boston and other major markets." There is a charge for tickets. There's more details on their website at: http://www.adclub.org/Events/Event.cfm?EventID=119 I should mention that I'm not affiliated with the Ad Club. Hell, I don't even work in advertising. Or radio for that matter. I'm just a media junkie. From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 12:04:01 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon Apr 19 12:04:05 2004 Subject: Ducting on upper VHF TV channels, UHF Message-ID: <20040419160401.42667.qmail@web12504.mail.yahoo.com> ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 12:06:13 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon Apr 19 12:06:22 2004 Subject: Ducting (skip) on upper VHF TV channels, UHF TV and FM this Monday morning Message-ID: <20040419160613.63806.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> The band was quite open this morning. Channel 7 and 25 from Boston were unwatchable, due to NYC and NJ stations I suspect. Chaneel 12 and Channel 13 both had Sesame Street between 7 and 8 AM, not the usual Providence Portland stations. WDRC 102.9 Hartford was totally over WBLM Portland. John Derry NH ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From sven@gordsven.com Mon Apr 19 12:56:41 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Mon Apr 19 12:57:10 2004 Subject: Ducting (skip) on upper VHF TV channels, UHF TV and FM this Monday morning In-Reply-To: <20040419160613.63806.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, John Bolduc wrote: > The band was quite open this morning. > > Channel 7 and 25 from Boston were unwatchable, due to NYC and NJ stations > I suspect. TV channels 25 and 7 are licenced to New York. Channel 7 is an ABC network relay station (WABC-TV) Channel 25 is a PBS & multi-ethnic station owned by the old Dept. of Education (WNYE-TV) > Chaneel 12 and Channel 13 both had Sesame Street between 7 and 8 AM, not > the usual Providence Portland stations. I wonder if you were catching Channel 13 out of Newark NJ (that is the major PBS outlet here). WNET. -- Sven From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 13:04:39 2004 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Mon Apr 19 13:04:51 2004 Subject: Ducting (skip) on upper VHF TV channels, UHF TV and FM this Monday morning In-Reply-To: <20040419160613.63806.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040419170439.47671.qmail@web40514.mail.yahoo.com> The band was hopping. The Channel 12 and 13 PBS stations you saw were WHYY/12 Wilmington, DE (Philadelphia) and WNET/13 Newark, NJ (New York). The trop was not that as strong as predicted. However, I did pretty well myself..... (at around 9:00AM) WCBS/2 NY (under local WGBH) WFSB/3 CT (common here) WNBC/4 NY (under local WBZ) WNYW/5 NY (under local WCVB) WTTG/5 DC (under local WCVB) WJLA/7 DC (under local WHDH) WABC/7 NY (under local WHDH) WTNH/8 CT WUSA/9 DC (fighting with WMUR) WPIX/11 NY WPHL/17 PA (with good ol' Jerry Springer) WNYE/25 NY (under local WFXT) WGTW/48 PA And had local reception of WPFW/89.3 Washington (Pacifica Radio in the Nation's Capital), where the talk show host scolded the caller after the caller said "Let's kill those Iraqi ?$#@&^*"", after which the host cut the caller off immediately and said "This station will not tolerate swears and condone such actions. If you feel that way, go on YOUR time and sign up, otherwise......". He was obviously he was peeved! 73, Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts --- John Bolduc wrote: > The band was quite open this morning. > > Channel 7 and 25 from Boston were unwatchable, due > to NYC and NJ stations > I suspect. > > Chaneel 12 and Channel 13 both had Sesame Street > between 7 and 8 AM, not > the usual Providence Portland stations. > > WDRC 102.9 Hartford was totally over WBLM Portland. > > John > > Derry NH > > ===== > New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire > Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire > history, photos for New Hampshire and New England > at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for > 25¢ > http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash ===== Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From paul@03038.com Mon Apr 19 14:00:38 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Mon Apr 19 13:57:28 2004 Subject: Ducting (skip) on upper VHF TV channels, UHF TV and FM this Monday morning In-Reply-To: <20040419170439.47671.qmail@web40514.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006e01c42638$45e55ce0$0e87fea9@q0002> Ch 12 is also PBS in Maine, so it could also have been (WMEB?) though the orientation does seem to be South.. -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Peter Q. George Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:05 PM To: John Bolduc; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Ducting (skip) on upper VHF TV channels,UHF TV and FM this Monday morning The band was hopping. The Channel 12 and 13 PBS stations you saw were WHYY/12 Wilmington, DE (Philadelphia) and WNET/13 Newark, NJ (New York). The trop was not that as strong as predicted. However, I did pretty well myself..... (at around 9:00AM) WCBS/2 NY (under local WGBH) WFSB/3 CT (common here) WNBC/4 NY (under local WBZ) WNYW/5 NY (under local WCVB) WTTG/5 DC (under local WCVB) WJLA/7 DC (under local WHDH) WABC/7 NY (under local WHDH) WTNH/8 CT WUSA/9 DC (fighting with WMUR) WPIX/11 NY WPHL/17 PA (with good ol' Jerry Springer) WNYE/25 NY (under local WFXT) WGTW/48 PA And had local reception of WPFW/89.3 Washington (Pacifica Radio in the Nation's Capital), where the talk show host scolded the caller after the caller said "Let's kill those Iraqi ?$#@&^*"", after which the host cut the caller off immediately and said "This station will not tolerate swears and condone such actions. If you feel that way, go on YOUR time and sign up, otherwise......". He was obviously he was peeved! 73, Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts --- John Bolduc wrote: > The band was quite open this morning. > > Channel 7 and 25 from Boston were unwatchable, due > to NYC and NJ stations > I suspect. > > Chaneel 12 and Channel 13 both had Sesame Street > between 7 and 8 AM, not > the usual Providence Portland stations. > > WDRC 102.9 Hartford was totally over WBLM Portland. > > John > > Derry NH > > ===== > New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire > Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire > history, photos for New Hampshire and New England > at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for > 25? > http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash ===== Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25? http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 14:23:10 2004 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Mon Apr 19 14:23:41 2004 Subject: Ducting (skip) on upper VHF TV channels, UHF TV and FM this Monday morning In-Reply-To: <006e01c42638$45e55ce0$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <20040419182310.17714.qmail@web40501.mail.yahoo.com> WMEB-TV/12 in Orono, ME is unlikely on this opening. For some reason, WMEB-TV/12 is a rare catch all around in these parts. However, WCBB(TV)/10 in Augusta, ME always seems to have a little CCI over local WJAR(TV) even in the dead of winter, even here in the South of Boston area. The only other MPBN TV station seen here on a regular basis is WMEA-TV/26 from Biddeford, ME. 73, Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts --- Paul Hopfgarten wrote: > Ch 12 is also PBS in Maine, so it could also have > been (WMEB?) though the > orientation does seem to be South.. > > -Paul Hopfgarten > -East Derry NH ===== Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Apr 19 16:41:35 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Apr 19 16:41:48 2004 Subject: No Hash on WBZ-AM Today Message-ID: Just for the record, WBZ-AM did not broadcast its IBOC signal today (04/19)...no hash. WBIX-AM 1060 was also interference-free at the junction of Rts 128 and 93. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From markwats@comcast.net Mon Apr 19 16:56:29 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon Apr 19 16:56:27 2004 Subject: WDIS Owes The FCC Some Money Message-ID: <003b01c42650$c9d316b0$64f88018@markscomputer> All Access reporting that WDIS (1170 Norfolk MA) has been issued a Notice Of Apparent Liability by the FCC, in the amount of $16,000 for failing to timely file it's license renewal application, unauthorized operation and public file violations. Is WDIS still on the air? I can't get them up this way. Mark Watson From xradioguy@yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 17:34:53 2004 From: xradioguy@yahoo.com (Ari Alpert) Date: Mon Apr 19 17:35:01 2004 Subject: WDIS Owes The FCC Some Money In-Reply-To: <003b01c42650$c9d316b0$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <20040419213453.58222.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> --- Mark Watson wrote: > ... > Is WDIS still on the air? > ... Yes, they're on the air with mostly brokered talk programming and run way undermodulated from near the intersection of Rt 115 and Rt 1A in Norfolk, MA. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Apr 19 18:14:32 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon Apr 19 18:14:38 2004 Subject: Frank FM TV References: <20040419103321.30732.qmail@web61107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001001c4265b$b1294d90$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Fox" To: Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 6:33 AM Subject: Frank FM TV A very well produced > spot and on a station that does well(news-wise, at > least). Anyone seen spots for any of the other > stations? I saw the Frank ads a lot this weekend on WCSH and WMTW. I saw no ads for the other stations. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From steveord@bit-net.com Mon Apr 19 20:29:22 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Mon Apr 19 20:29:26 2004 Subject: No Hash on WBZ-AM Today In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040419202657.01afde08@pop3.bit-net.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: >Just for the record, WBZ-AM did not broadcast its IBOC >signal today (04/19)...no hash. Has BZ done something with their IBOC? I've noticed odd artifacts on my kitchen radio for the past couple weeks...almost sounds like FM picket fencing. I haven't noticed on any other radios, though some are better than others at rejecting the digital hash. From steveord@bit-net.com Mon Apr 19 20:34:59 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Mon Apr 19 20:35:02 2004 Subject: College stations and bad language In-Reply-To: <20040419115512.28489.qmail@web60810.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4083293D.27613.3109E@localhost> <20040419115512.28489.qmail@web60810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040419202947.01aebf20@pop3.bit-net.com> Bob Nelson wrote: >--- "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: > > > On altered versions of songs, I remember a song in > > the early 60s called "My Boomerang > > Won't Come Back," > >Yup, have heard about the altered version via Dr. >Demento! That's the way the original 45 was released. I never heard the "black in the face" version until the 80s. Indeed, that's the first time I'd even heard the term, though "blue in the face" is quite common. >Van Morrison's "Brown Eyed Girl" had the line "making >love in the green grass behind the stadium with you," >which got changed to "laughin' and a runnin', hey hey, >behind the stadium..." The single had the "makin' love..." lyrics. Supposedly some of the albums contained the edit. I never heard that version until I picked up a "best of" album in the early 80s. A few oldies stations play the edit, others the "dirty" version. >And an altered lyric that had nothing to do with >cuss words: John Fogerty "got back" at Fantasy >Records mogul Saul Zaentz with "Zanz can't dance >but he'll steal your money; watch him or he'll >rob you blind", which was supposedly about a dancing >pig. It was changed to "Vanz Can't Danz". Yeah, there was a dancing pig in the video. I think early pressings of his "Centerfield" album had the "Zanz" version, later pressing had the remake. Somewhere I have a promo copy of the single with the "Zanz" lyrics. From steveord@bit-net.com Mon Apr 19 20:38:58 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Mon Apr 19 20:38:57 2004 Subject: Ducting (skip) on upper VHF TV channels, UHF TV and FM this Monday morning In-Reply-To: <20040419170439.47671.qmail@web40514.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040419160613.63806.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> <20040419170439.47671.qmail@web40514.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040419203659.01aebdd8@pop3.bit-net.com> Peter Q. George wrote: >And had local reception of WPFW/89.3 Washington >(Pacifica Radio in the Nation's Capital), where the >talk show host scolded the caller after the caller >said "Let's kill those Iraqi ?$#@&^*"", after which >the host cut the caller off immediately and said "This >station will not tolerate swears and condone such >actions. If you feel that way, go on YOUR time and >sign up, otherwise......". He was obviously he was >peeved! I wonder if he was more upset over the language, or that the caller's opinions didn't fit in with Pacifica's extreme leftism. From billo@shoreham.net Mon Apr 19 22:46:23 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Apr 19 22:46:30 2004 Subject: Radio Rumblings Message-ID: <000a01c42681$abeba3c0$0300a8c0@boneill> Any truth to speculation regarding: WBUR: Two key off air people at WBUR that have been asked to tender their resignations in the past 2 weeks? WBZ: Higher-ups at Infinity are inferring that WBZ radio has been spending too much and at least one, but probably more than one, of their "per diem" fulltimers (non-staffers that have been working 40 hours a week with no bennies) with hours cut from 40 hours to 24? Bill O'Neill From weather@weathersource.net Mon Apr 19 15:03:55 2004 From: weather@weathersource.net (Matt Higgs) Date: Mon Apr 19 22:46:55 2004 Subject: Ducting on upper VHF TV channels, UHF Message-ID: Intersting, didn't know that had a name. Frequently from about May though August, local station WLBZ gets over taken by WESH-TV of Florida, making it almost impossible to watch for a few months during certain times of the day. Matt Higgs Green Mountain, New Brunswick > > > > ===== > New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25? > http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash > > -- From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Apr 19 23:03:07 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Apr 19 23:03:04 2004 Subject: College stations and bad language In-Reply-To: <20040419115512.28489.qmail@web60810.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4083293D.27613.3109E@localhost> Message-ID: <40845AAB.16886.908603@localhost> On 19 Apr 2004 at 4:55, Bob Nelson wrote: > Van Morrison's "Brown Eyed Girl" had the line "making > love in the green grass behind the stadium with you," > which got changed to "laughin' and a runnin', hey hey, > behind the stadium..." And someone (Paul Simon, I think) had a record in the early 70s that began, "When I think back on all the crap I learned in high school, it's a wonder I can think at all." Some stations played it that way, but WBZ modified it, dubbing in the first line of the next verse, so that it went, "When I think of all the girls I knew when I was single, it's a wonder I can think at all." It made a lot less sense that way. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Mon Apr 19 23:39:34 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Mon Apr 19 23:39:37 2004 Subject: College stations and bad language In-Reply-To: <40845AAB.16886.908603@localhost> Message-ID: <000601c42689$19ab7aa0$c3ec33d1@alvin> WBZ modified it, dubbing in the first > line of the next verse, so that it > went, "When I think of all the girls I knew when I was > single, it's a wonder I can think at all." > It made a lot less sense that way. Depends on your perspective. Been married? :-) From billo@shoreham.net Mon Apr 19 18:53:17 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue Apr 20 02:24:48 2004 Subject: Rumblings? Message-ID: <001901c42661$1bb9a150$0300a8c0@boneill> Any truth to speculation regarding: WBUR: Two key off air people at WBUR that have been asked to tender their resignations in the past 2 weeks? WBZ: Higher-ups at Infinity are inferring that WBZ radio has been spending too much and at least one, but probably more than one, of their "per diem" fulltimers (non-staffers that have been working 40 hours a week with no bennies) with hours cut from 40 hours to 24? Bill O'Neill From news@southstation.org Tue Apr 20 06:53:58 2004 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Tue Apr 20 06:54:12 2004 Subject: College stations and bad language In-Reply-To: <40845AAB.16886.908603@localhost> Message-ID: <20040420105403.XLLC4944.lakermmtao05.cox.net@main> "Kodachrome" by Paul Simon began its first verse with the "crap" line and the second verse with the "girls" line. Did WBZ really edit the song so that the line to the second verse played twice? -Larry www.southstation.org -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of A. Joseph Ross Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:03 PM To: Bob Nelson Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: College stations and bad language And someone (Paul Simon, I think) had a record in the early 70s that began, "When I think back on all the crap I learned in high school, it's a wonder I can think at all." Some stations played it that way, but WBZ modified it, dubbing in the first line of the next verse, so that it went, "When I think of all the girls I knew when I was single, it's a wonder I can think at all." It made a lot less sense that way. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue Apr 20 07:13:10 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue Apr 20 07:13:18 2004 Subject: College stations and bad language References: <20040420105403.XLLC4944.lakermmtao05.cox.net@main> Message-ID: <005501c426c8$7762e0e0$6500a8c0@brianhome> Actually the edits that I remember were "when I look back at the ... I learned in high school" (a simple one word cut) and "when I look back at all the stuff I learned in high school" - apparently a later radio edit from the label. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Lovering" To: "'A. Joseph Ross'" ; "'Bob Nelson'" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:53 AM Subject: RE: College stations and bad language > "Kodachrome" by Paul Simon began its first verse with the "crap" line and > the second verse with the "girls" line. Did WBZ really edit the song so > that the line to the second verse played twice? > > -Larry > www.southstation.org > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > A. Joseph Ross > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:03 PM > To: Bob Nelson > Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Re: College stations and bad language > > > And someone (Paul Simon, I think) had a record in the early 70s that began, > "When I think back on all the crap I learned in high school, it's a wonder I > can think at all." Some stations played it that way, but WBZ modified it, > dubbing in the first line of the next verse, so that it went, "When I think > of all the girls I knew when I was single, it's a wonder I can think at > all." > It made a lot less sense that way. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > > From map@map.com Tue Apr 20 14:40:53 2004 From: map@map.com (Mark Casey) Date: Tue Apr 20 14:45:23 2004 Subject: Ducting (skip) on upper VHF TV channels, UHF TV and FM this Monday morning References: <20040419182310.17714.qmail@web40501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00fb01c42707$1d8f6e50$9865fea9@yourm3vezyx8af> The NYC Ch25, and Phila.17 & 29 were very strong here in W.Mass also. For a great on-line resource to predict ducting in advance up to 5 days; www.iprimus.ca/~hepburnw/trop.html Mark Casey, K1MAP FN32sb Hampden, Mass. 01036 From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Apr 20 15:22:06 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue Apr 20 15:22:17 2004 Subject: Ducting on upper VHF TV channels, UHF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040420192206.88786.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> Matt That type of skip is affecting TV channel 2 known as E-Layer Ionishperic Skip, which while still "skip" is very different from tropospheric skip. E-Skip usually affects tv channels 2-6, public safety low band freqs 30-50 Mhz, FM broadcast band, etc. and is usually quite unstable, but occurs over very great distances. Ducting/tropo skip usually affects FM broadcast band and above, is usually stable for quite a period of time, but covers much shorter distances, usually less than 800 miles and more typically less than 300. John __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Apr 20 17:43:42 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Apr 20 17:44:08 2004 Subject: "Air America" Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? Message-ID: Air America's website contains a list of stations that will be picking up the network in May. One station listed is WSNH-AM 900, Nashua, NH. Is AM 900 ditching recordings so soon? May is just around the corner, so stay tuned. BTW, one of the stations listed as picking up A.A. is KPEE-AM in Santa Cruz. Love those call letters. Liberals are sometimes referred to as "bed-wetters" and "weenies" by their opponents anyway. So could WIZZ, "The Whizz" in Greenfield, Mass. be next? Not if WHMP-AM in Northampton has any say! (What day of the week is the favorite of those employed by WHMP? It's Wednesday...hump day! Then again, every day is hump day in Northampton) ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Apr 20 19:03:05 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Tue Apr 20 19:03:12 2004 Subject: Broadcaster buys in to Mainers as good listeners Message-ID: <000f01c4272b$a3cd3c30$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> http://www.pressherald.com/business/pulse/040420pulse.shtml There was a column in the business section of the Portland Press Herald today about Nassau's shopping spree in Maine. It is full of the usual problems with newspaper stories on radio but does have a quote from a Nassau official saying that they are not done buying. From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Apr 20 19:37:59 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Apr 20 19:39:06 2004 Subject: "Air America" Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? References: Message-ID: <001b01c42730$9bbec220$19eefea9@dstrassberg> As far as I can tell, there is no KPEE (AM) licensed to Santa Cruz or anywhere else. Maybe an FM. Maybe an unlicensed broadcaster. Maybe a Part 15 station--but not a regular AM. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurence Glavin To: Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: "Air America" Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? > BTW, one of the stations listed as picking up A.A. is > KPEE-AM in Santa Cruz. Love those call letters. From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Apr 20 19:44:16 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Tue Apr 20 19:44:21 2004 Subject: Air America must find new Los Angeles, Chicago stations Message-ID: <001701c42731$64dd9320$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Drudge reports that Air America is done in LA and Chicago at the end of the month. Not a good sign for a new network. Portland, Maine is hardly a good replacement for the #2 and #3 markets in the country. Does anyone know anything about the money behind this operation? How long can they survive without significant advertising? http://www.drudgereport.com/flash4.htm From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Tue Apr 20 20:51:43 2004 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Tue Apr 20 20:51:50 2004 Subject: "Air America" Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? In-Reply-To: <001b01c42730$9bbec220$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <20040421005143.20884.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> The only AM station licensed to Santa Cruz is KSCO-AM 1080. There are no such calls as KPEE there or anywhere near that area. Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA --- Dan Strassberg wrote: > As far as I can tell, there is no KPEE (AM) licensed > to Santa Cruz or > anywhere else. Maybe an FM. Maybe an unlicensed > broadcaster. Maybe a Part 15 > station--but not a regular AM. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laurence Glavin > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:43 PM > Subject: "Air America" Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? > > > > BTW, one of the stations listed as picking up A.A. > is > > KPEE-AM in Santa Cruz. Love those call letters. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From billo@shoreham.net Tue Apr 20 22:25:43 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue Apr 20 22:25:47 2004 Subject: Arkansas or Bust.... Message-ID: <003501c42747$f3b5b670$0300a8c0@boneill> Heading down to the Univ. of Ark at Little Rock in the AM (taking a course online that requires a three day seminar, etc.) Any radio I should check out down there on the Ford rental? Something tells me I am in for a few surprises. Bill O'Neill Shoreham, V'mont From sid@wrko.com Tue Apr 20 23:06:30 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue Apr 20 23:07:19 2004 Subject: Air America must find new Los Angeles, Chicago stations Message-ID: >>Does anyone know anything about the money behind this operation? How long can they survive without significant advertising?<< I've heard that they expect to lose money for the first two years, but that was before they lost their affiliations in the #2 and #3 markets. How quickly those stations are replaced may well have everything to do with AA's survival...not to even mention that their programming is still not going to get them very far. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Apr 20 23:32:47 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Tue Apr 20 23:32:52 2004 Subject: Air America must find new Los Angeles, Chicago stations References: Message-ID: <003301c42751$51450ad0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Schweiger" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:06 PM Subject: Re: Air America must find new Los Angeles, Chicago stations > I've heard that they expect to lose money for the first two years, but that was before they lost their affiliations in the #2 and #3 markets. How quickly those stations are replaced may well have everything to do with AA's survival...not to even mention that their programming is still not going to get them very far. I'll have to take your word on the quality of their programming. ;-) The business model interests me. Paying for time on stations in major markets while trying to establish a network sounds like a recipe for financial disaster to me. The recent problems must make sales nearly impossible. Maybe liberal talk can work, but I think they would have had a better chance of success if they tried a business model that had worked before in radio. Of course, what do liberals know about business? Just a joke! ;-) I bet Bob Bitner could make a killing if he wanted to sell all the time on his station to this group. A station licensed to Cambridge would be a natural for them. Bob could spend the summer in Maine and the music would likely be back on 740 before the end of the year. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Apr 21 01:42:33 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Apr 21 01:42:24 2004 Subject: College stations and bad language In-Reply-To: <20040420105403.XLLC4944.lakermmtao05.cox.net@main> References: <40845AAB.16886.908603@localhost> Message-ID: <4085D189.18402.944E0F@localhost> On 20 Apr 2004 at 6:53, Larry Lovering wrote: > "Kodachrome" by Paul Simon began its first verse with the "crap" line and > the second verse with the "girls" line. Did WBZ really edit the song so > that the line to the second verse played twice? I can't say for sure that WBZ was the one that did the edit, but that's the version that I heard on WBZ at the time. WMEX, meanwhile, played the unedited version with the "crap" line. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Apr 21 01:42:34 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Apr 21 01:44:29 2004 Subject: WCRB surprise Message-ID: <4085D18A.640.94516D@localhost> I was quite surprised this morning to hear a symphony on WCRB by Freidrich Wilhelm Herschel, better known as Sir William Herschel, and discoverer of the planet Uranus. I knew that Herschel was a musician who did astronomy at night as a hobby (until his discovery won him an appointment as court astronomer to King George III). What surprised me was that WCRB departed to that extent from its usual playlist. I've done my share of criticizing WCRB in this forum for its pop-radio style tight playlist, so it's only fair for me to cheer when they do something nice. The symphony was in the style of Mozart and Haydn, since it was a product of its time. But it was pleasant to listen to and deserves to be in WCRB's regular repetoire. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From stevewest106@hotmail.com Wed Apr 21 04:40:19 2004 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Wed Apr 21 04:40:28 2004 Subject: Arkansas or Bust.... Message-ID: Bill.... care to take a short detour to Memphis? Only 2 1/2 hours east from Little Rock on I-40. I'll be happy to give you a tour of the new Citadel cluster I work for, and the Information Radio Network. If only you were Scott Fybush, hehehe. Bring your camera, and a tape recorder. Memphis area stations of interest: WMC-FM (99.7) 290,000 watt flamethrower AC, WEGR "Rock 103" - Standard classic rock fare, WGKX "Kix 106" (105.9) Country - my gig, WJZN "Smooth Jazz 98.9" - another 'my gig' Aww heck, tell me what'cha like. Can't help you with Little Rock aside from KTRQ which is an oldies station on 102.3 situated closer to Memphis but covering both markets. Steve > >Heading down to the Univ. of Ark at Little Rock in the AM (taking a course >online that requires a three day seminar, etc.) Any radio I should check >out >down there on the Ford rental? Something tells me I am in for a few >surprises. > _________________________________________________________________ Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected and safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp From sven@gordsven.com Wed Apr 21 08:04:17 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Wed Apr 21 08:04:27 2004 Subject: Air America must find new Los Angeles, Chicago stations In-Reply-To: <003301c42751$51450ad0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Dan Billings wrote: > I bet Bob Bitner could make a killing if he wanted to sell all the time on > his station to this group. A station licensed to Cambridge would be a NOOOO!!!!! Don't give him any ideas! :) I already lost the last local music station on AM here in New York to this thing (WLIB dumped Carib pop music). As it is, WJIB is the only thing worth listening to when I visit Boston.... -- Sven From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Apr 21 08:30:45 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Apr 21 08:30:42 2004 Subject: College stations and bad language In-Reply-To: <4085D189.18402.944E0F@localhost> References: <40845AAB.16886.908603@localhost> <4085D189.18402.944E0F@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040421082515.01b7eb48@pop3.bit-net.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > "Kodachrome" by Paul Simon began its first verse with the "crap" line and > > the second verse with the "girls" line. Did WBZ really edit the song so > > that the line to the second verse played twice? > >I can't say for sure that WBZ was the one that did the edit, but that's >the version that I heard >on WBZ at the time. WMEX, meanwhile, played the unedited version with the >"crap" line. WBZ-FM played a very clunky edit that just cut the words "the crap" ...the attempt was probably to get "when I think back on all/I learned in high school", but succeded in only making it sound like the record skipped. I'd guess the AM played the same edit. I somehow recall WRKO playing the song intact. From paul@03038.com Wed Apr 21 09:56:29 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Wed Apr 21 10:07:48 2004 Subject: "Air America" Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006a01c427aa$8e619560$0e87fea9@q0002> Former Gov Shaheen's Husband's Radio station picks up Air America? Oh...there's a shock! -Paul Hopfgarten East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Laurence Glavin Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:44 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: "Air America" Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? Air America's website contains a list of stations that will be picking up the network in May. One station listed is WSNH-AM 900, Nashua, NH. Is AM 900 ditching recordings so soon? May is just around the corner, so stay tuned. BTW, one of the stations listed as picking up A.A. is KPEE-AM in Santa Cruz. Love those call letters. Liberals are sometimes referred to as "bed-wetters" and "weenies" by their opponents anyway. So could WIZZ, "The Whizz" in Greenfield, Mass. be next? Not if WHMP-AM in Northampton has any say! (What day of the week is the favorite of those employed by WHMP? It's Wednesday...hump day! Then again, every day is hump day in Northampton) ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 From tmw207@adelphia.net Wed Apr 21 10:56:05 2004 From: tmw207@adelphia.net (Terry Wood) Date: Wed Apr 21 10:56:11 2004 Subject: Air America must find new Los Angeles, Chicago stations References: Message-ID: <000e01c427b0$c644c6e0$d5163618@woodmvc1xkg0r1> So far I have found their programming to be informative, funny and worth listening to. Sure they need some more but they are better then listening to the GOP networks of Rush, Howie, Sean et al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Schweiger" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:06 PM Subject: Re: Air America must find new Los Angeles, Chicago stations > >>Does anyone know anything about the money behind this operation? How long can they survive without significant advertising?<< > > I've heard that they expect to lose money for the first two years, but that was before they lost their affiliations in the #2 and #3 markets. How quickly those stations are replaced may well have everything to do with AA's survival...not to even mention that their programming is still not going to get them very far. > > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC > WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > Boston MA 02135-2040 > > From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Wed Apr 21 13:35:00 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Apr 21 13:35:09 2004 Subject: Herald: Little Walter threatened by police Message-ID: <20040421173500.92607.qmail@web60810.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=3620 Nationally syndicated, locally based 50s DJ "Little Walter" DeVenne Jr. says that Malden police threatened him after he refused to play a homemade CD of Irish music at one of his gigs (a job he has since lost). From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Wed Apr 21 13:36:18 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Apr 21 13:36:33 2004 Subject: Air America must find new Los Angeles, Chicago stations In-Reply-To: <000e01c427b0$c644c6e0$d5163618@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Message-ID: <20040421173618.16887.qmail@web60805.mail.yahoo.com> Someone sent me a snippet of AA and it had Bob Elliot of Bob and Ray fame doing a skit poking fun at airport security. Wasn't bad, but that snippet was all I heard. From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Apr 21 17:15:32 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Apr 21 17:15:56 2004 Subject: "Air America" Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? Message-ID: >DATE: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:51:43 >From: Roy Lawrence >To: Dan Strassberg Cc: bri@bostonradio.org >The only AM station licensed to Santa Cruz is KSCO-AM >1080. There are no such calls as KPEE there or >anywhere near that area. > >Roy Lawrence >San Francisco, CA > >--- Dan Strassberg wrote: >> As far as I can tell, there is no KPEE (AM) licensed >> to Santa Cruz or >> anywhere else. Maybe an FM. Maybe an unlicensed >> broadcaster. Maybe a Part 15 >> station--but not a regular AM. >> >> -- >> Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net >> eFax 707-215-6367 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Laurence Glavin >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:43 PM >> Subject: "Air America" Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? >> >> >> > BTW, one of the stations listed as picking up A.A. >> is >> > KPEE-AM in Santa Cruz. Love those call letters. Upon further investigation of website http://www.airamericaradio.com/pub/resStations.htm I note that "KPEE" is the only station not followed by a frequency. The aforementioned WSNH has its frequency along with all the other putative new stations listed. Perhaps some station in the Santa Cruz area plans to change the calls to KPEE after changing format. (It doesn't have to be IN Santa Cruz; O'Reilly's syndicator claims major markets for outlying stations... WTSN-AM 1270 Dover, NH is listed as a Boston area affiliate). Or perhaps KPEE is an internet radio station, doing streaming audio, thus the 'PEE' in KPEE. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Apr 21 17:47:41 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Apr 21 17:47:43 2004 Subject: 'Air America' Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? In-Reply-To: <006a01c427aa$8e619560$0e87fea9@q0002> References: <006a01c427aa$8e619560$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <57559.216.204.15.170.1082584061.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Paul Hopfgarten wrote... > > > Air America's website contains a list of stations that will be > picking up the network in May. One station listed is > WSNH-AM 900, Nashua, NH. Is AM 900 ditching recordings > so soon? May is just around the corner, so stay tuned. Supposedly liberal/libertarian talk was what they'd planned to do all along, with a good percentage of local programming being the original intent. Then they found out what it was gonna cost, so they kept with the automated oldies (which I'd heard was just supposed to be a smoke screen). From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Apr 21 18:06:09 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Apr 21 18:06:32 2004 Subject: WCRB surprise Message-ID: >DATE: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 01:42:34 >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >I was quite surprised this morning to hear a symphony on WCRB by Freidrich Wilhelm >Herschel, better known as Sir William Herschel, and discoverer of the planet Uranus. I knew >that Herschel was a musician who did astronomy at night as a hobby (until his discovery >won him an appointment as court astronomer to King George III). What surprised me was >that WCRB departed to that extent from its usual playlist. I've done my share of criticizing >WCRB in this forum for its pop-radio style tight playlist, so it's only fair for me to cheer when >they do something nice. > >The symphony was in the style of Mozart and Haydn, since it was a product of its time. But >it was pleasant to listen to and deserves to be in WCRB's regular repetoire. > >-- >A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com >Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > Actually, it wasn't a departure from its playlist. I used wcrb.com's "What Did I Hear?" feature and found that the piece aired twice in the past thirty days before you heard it today: 3:41 pm on March 26th and 12:28 pm on April 3rd. That's pretty often for such an obscure composer. Between the 200 or so "classical favorites", WCRB lards its schedule with reams of forgotten and obscure works by forgotten and obscure composers. Here is just a partial list of some of them: Aufschnater, Kozeluch, Pisendel, Kjerulf, Smethergell, Zachow, Scheibe, Pla and Wagenseil, all noted in just a search of a few days. This all 18th and early 19th century stuff that has two advantages: it SOUNDS classical to the uninitiated with its sewing-machine rhythms and tinkling harpsichords; and it's SHORT, allowing beaucoup commercial breaks. So don't worry...you'll hear the Herschel piece again soon! ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From paul@03038.com Wed Apr 21 19:43:25 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Wed Apr 21 19:40:21 2004 Subject: 'Air America' Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? In-Reply-To: <57559.216.204.15.170.1082584061.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <005a01c427fa$8e1eb1a0$0e87fea9@q0002> Actually, I did not write the snippet attributed to me in this e-mail. I simply commented on the (sarcastically) 'surprise' that Team Shaheen would put AA on 900AM. -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of SteveOrdinetz Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:48 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: RE: 'Air America' Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? Paul Hopfgarten wrote... > > > Air America's website contains a list of stations that will be > picking up the network in May. One station listed is > WSNH-AM 900, Nashua, NH. Is AM 900 ditching recordings > so soon? May is just around the corner, so stay tuned. Supposedly liberal/libertarian talk was what they'd planned to do all along, with a good percentage of local programming being the original intent. Then they found out what it was gonna cost, so they kept with the automated oldies (which I'd heard was just supposed to be a smoke screen). From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Wed Apr 21 20:02:49 2004 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Wed Apr 21 20:03:04 2004 Subject: "Air America" Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040422000249.65452.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> Laurence, In my hast running out the door yesterday evening, I should have read your post a little closer, thanks for the clarification. Those calls ought to attract all sorts of tourism to that spendid beach community. I'll just stay out of the water. Roy (the *other* spelled) Lawrence :-) San Francisco, CA --- Laurence Glavin wrote: > >DATE: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:51:43 > >From: Roy Lawrence > >To: Dan Strassberg > Cc: bri@bostonradio.org > > >The only AM station licensed to Santa Cruz is > KSCO-AM > >1080. There are no such calls as KPEE there or > >anywhere near that area. > > > >Roy Lawrence > >San Francisco, CA > > > >--- Dan Strassberg wrote: > >> As far as I can tell, there is no KPEE (AM) > licensed > >> to Santa Cruz or > >> anywhere else. Maybe an FM. Maybe an unlicensed > >> broadcaster. Maybe a Part 15 > >> station--but not a regular AM. > >> > >> -- > >> Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > >> eFax 707-215-6367 > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Laurence Glavin > >> To: > > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:43 PM > >> Subject: "Air America" Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? > >> > >> > >> > BTW, one of the stations listed as picking up > A.A. > >> is > >> > KPEE-AM in Santa Cruz. Love those call > letters. > > Upon further investigation of website > > http://www.airamericaradio.com/pub/resStations.htm > > I note that "KPEE" is the only station not followed > by > a frequency. The aforementioned WSNH has its > frequency > along with all the other putative new stations > listed. > Perhaps some station in the Santa Cruz area plans to > change the calls to KPEE after changing format. > (It doesn't have to be IN Santa Cruz; O'Reilly's > syndicator claims major markets for outlying > stations... > WTSN-AM 1270 Dover, NH is listed as a Boston area > affiliate). > Or perhaps KPEE is an internet radio station, doing > streaming audio, thus the 'PEE' in KPEE. > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow > Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Apr 21 20:27:04 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Apr 21 20:27:44 2004 Subject: "Air America" Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? References: <64.3d7f107f.2db86096@aol.com> Message-ID: <001001c42800$8efbe380$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Bob: Laurence gets credit for that one. I had to read it twice before I got it. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:41 PM Subject: Re: "Air America" Coming To WSNH-AM Nashua? > In a message dated 4/21/2004 5:16:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, > lglavin@lycos.com writes: > > > Or perhaps KPEE is an internet radio station, doing > > streaming audio, thus the 'PEE' in KPEE. > > > Good one, Dan! But perhaps its a pirate station. > And WTSN-Dover NH being their "Boston area" station... reminds of of the USA > Network listing WGAW-Gardener as their "Boston Affiliate!!) > ----jibguy > From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Apr 22 01:19:53 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Apr 22 01:19:28 2004 Subject: College stations and bad language In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040421082515.01b7eb48@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <4085D189.18402.944E0F@localhost> Message-ID: <40871DB9.130.64E422@localhost> On 21 Apr 2004 at 8:30, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > WBZ-FM played a very clunky edit that just cut the words "the crap" ...the > attempt was probably to get "when I think back on all/I learned in high > school", but succeded in only making it sound like the record skipped. > I'd guess the AM played the same edit. That's not the edit that I heard. The one I heard on WBZ (AM) was the one I described. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Apr 22 01:19:53 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Apr 22 01:19:32 2004 Subject: Air America must find new Los Angeles, Chicago stations In-Reply-To: <20040421173618.16887.qmail@web60805.mail.yahoo.com> References: <000e01c427b0$c644c6e0$d5163618@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Message-ID: <40871DB9.275.64E47E@localhost> On 21 Apr 2004 at 10:36, Bob Nelson wrote: > Someone sent me a snippet of AA and it had Bob Elliot > of Bob and Ray fame doing a skit poking fun at airport > security. Wasn't bad, but that snippet > was all I heard. I heard the whole thing awhile ago. It featured Bob as 'Wally Ballou," covering airport security. It was quite funny. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Apr 22 01:19:53 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Apr 22 01:19:36 2004 Subject: WCRB surprise In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <40871DB9.13212.64E4D6@localhost> On 21 Apr 2004 at 18:06, Laurence Glavin wrote: > So don't worry...you'll hear the Herschel piece again soon! Glad to hear it. Meanwhile, when I told someone else in the office about it, we got into a discussion about the correct pronunciation of "Uranus." Most people pronounce it as "you RAY nus." Astronomers say "YOU ranus," apparently ever since an astronomy professor first asked a student "What is the diameter of you RAY nus," and nobody could keep a straight face for the rest of the class session. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Apr 22 07:49:41 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Apr 22 07:49:43 2004 Subject: Air America must find new Los Angeles, Chicago stations In-Reply-To: <40871DB9.275.64E47E@localhost> References: <000e01c427b0$c644c6e0$d5163618@woodmvc1xkg0r1> <40871DB9.275.64E47E@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040422074835.01b07960@pop3.bit-net.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > Someone sent me a snippet of AA and it had Bob Elliot > > of Bob and Ray fame doing a skit poking fun at airport > > security. Wasn't bad, but that snippet > > was all I heard. > >I heard the whole thing awhile ago. It featured Bob as 'Wally Ballou," >covering airport >security. It was quite funny. Kinda sad though if their most compelling material is a 50 year old comedy bit. From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Apr 22 12:24:55 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Apr 22 12:25:06 2004 Subject: Air America must find new Los Angeles, Chicago stations In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040422074835.01b07960@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <000e01c427b0$c644c6e0$d5163618@woodmvc1xkg0r1> <40871DB9.275.64E47E@localhost> <6.0.3.0.0.20040422074835.01b07960@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: At 7:49 AM -0400 4/22/04, SteveOrdinetz wrote: >> >>I heard the whole thing awhile ago. It featured Bob as 'Wally >>Ballou," covering airport >>security. It was quite funny. > > >Kinda sad though if their most compelling material is a 50 year old >comedy bit. To begin with, they didn't even have airport security checks 50 years ago. That all started after the rash of hijackings to Cuba, in the 70's I believe. Yesterday Al Franken did a bit on "Accountants Without Borders" that was quite funny. But, even though they have a few shows hosted by people who are best known for comedy, AA is not meant to be a comedy network. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Apr 22 16:43:17 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Apr 22 16:43:48 2004 Subject: Fwd: Re: WCRB surprise Message-ID: >DATE: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 01:19:53 >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: lglavin@lycos.com >On 21 Apr 2004 at 18:06, Laurence Glavin wrote: > So don't worry...you'll hear the Herschel piece again soon! >Glad to hear it. > >A. Joseph Ross, J.D. >617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 >lawyer@attorneyross.com >Boston, MA 02108-2503 >http://www.attorneyross.com I can give you a definite on this one; wcrb.com displays programming about a month in the past and a week or so into the future. The Herschel piece will be repeated on Wednesday April 28th at about 3:12 pm EDST... a week and a day after you heard it. Gives you some idea how repetitive 102.5 is. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Apr 22 17:45:01 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Apr 22 17:45:23 2004 Subject: Janeane Garofalo Guest on Leno Tonight Message-ID: According to the newspapers and Jay Leno's website, Janeane Garofalo will be a guest on the "Tonight Show" tonight (04/22). Maybe she'll discuss the travails of the "AllAmerica" radio network and its affiliate lineup. Laurence Glavin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 22 22:40:30 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Apr 22 22:40:38 2004 Subject: More trouble for WSYY Message-ID: <001e01c428dc$58744eb0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> WSYY's transmitter site was vandalized recently. The damage to the transmitter site was done by rocks thrown through a window of the small building housing the station's transmitter. http://magic-city-news.com/article_1286.shtml http://magic-city-news.com/article_1321.shtml From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Apr 23 01:06:53 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Apr 23 01:06:39 2004 Subject: Air America must find new Los Angeles, Chicago stations In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040422074835.01b07960@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <40871DB9.275.64E47E@localhost> Message-ID: <40886C2D.8603.A30251@localhost> On 22 Apr 2004 at 7:49, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Kinda sad though if their most compelling material is a 50 year old comedy > bit. First of all, who says it was their most compelling material? Second, it wasn't a 50 year old comedy bit, it was a fresh new comedy bit, using Bob's Wally Ballou character. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Apr 23 01:06:53 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Apr 23 01:06:45 2004 Subject: Fwd: Re: WCRB surprise In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <40886C2D.17875.A302AB@localhost> On 22 Apr 2004 at 16:43, Laurence Glavin wrote: > I can give you a definite on this one; wcrb.com displays > programming about a month in the past and a week or so into the > future. The Herschel piece will be repeated on > Wednesday April 28th at about 3:12 pm EDST... > a week and a day after you heard it. Good, and I expect to be in my office then (where I always have WCRB on). > Gives you some idea how repetitive 102.5 is. Unfortunately so. But there are some things they seem to play almost every day. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Apr 24 13:29:28 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Apr 24 13:29:51 2004 Subject: Severin Enters Ozone Layer Message-ID: The Council on American Islamic Relations, which has previously taken issue with the content of NPR in general and WBUR in particular, has now aimed its criticism at WTKK blabmeister Jay Severin. Bobby Slayton look alike http://www.comedycontact.com/slayton.html httP://www.wtkk.com/showdj.asp?DJID=5854 Jay Severin apparently echoed Shakespeare's line "Let's kill all the lawyers"...only he said "Let's kill all the Muslims". CAIR begd to disagree. Read all about it at: http://www.cair-net.org/asp/article.asp?id=166&page=AA ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Apr 24 14:27:54 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Apr 24 14:28:12 2004 Subject: Jerry Howorth Dies Message-ID: I always thought this gentleman's name was Jerry Howard, which may have been his on-air name. My recollection of the Slim Pickens character is that he would whistle every time he said a word with a sibilant in it like "across" or "soda pop". The obit was in today's (04/24) Boston Globe: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/obituaries/articles/2004/04/24/jerry_howorth_at_84_longtime_voice_of_new_england_country_music_radio/ ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Sat Apr 24 17:49:19 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Apr 24 17:49:28 2004 Subject: Severin Enters Ozone Layer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040424214919.65876.qmail@web60802.mail.yahoo.com> Severin was "out sick" yesterday, replaced by a live pick-up of the syndie Sean Hannity, which WTKK regularly runs tape-delayed at 10 pm. Hannity told his 'TKK listeners, "Jay will be back Monday; let not your heart be troubled". No mention of Severin's remarks being the reason for his absence (if indeed they were). From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sun Apr 25 02:12:15 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sun Apr 25 02:11:21 2004 Subject: A Caller To The Jordan Rich Show Message-ID: <200404250212.AA231276636@mail.ttlc.net> The subject being Classical Music used on TV/in Commercials and with the Guest being the Conductor of the Plymouth Symphony Orchestra, a caller identified only as Laurence from Methuen garnered a prize for correctly identifying one of the "mystery" selections. One can only speculate if he was indeed BRI's own inimitable Mr. Glavin. From steveord@bit-net.com Sun Apr 25 08:49:32 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Apr 25 08:49:27 2004 Subject: Jerry Howorth Dies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040425084339.01af3a38@pop3.bit-net.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: >I always thought this gentleman's name was Jerry Howard, >which may have been his on-air name. My recollection >of the Slim Pickens character is that he would whistle >every time he said a word with a sibilant in it like >"across" or "soda pop". Back in the 80s there was a syndicated weekly show called "Radio New England Magazine" or something similar (maybe it still exists, though I haven't heard it in years). There was a character that dispensed homespun wisdom that used the name "Pickens" (no first name that I ever heard). Same guy? Kind of used that old New England yankee delivery and would splatter the sibilants. Ayup. From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Sun Apr 25 13:02:28 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Apr 25 13:02:35 2004 Subject: How about...Air America on college radio? Message-ID: <20040425170228.80259.qmail@web60807.mail.yahoo.com> Air America is having trouble getting in markets like Boston. They do have some money to throw around, though...so here's an idea. Have them approach one or several of the college stations in town and offer to have one or more AA shows carried "for free". (Or PAY the college stations to run Franken.) Since college stations can't run commercials, either AA or the stations themselves can fill ad breaks with promos, PSAs, or advocacy announcements from groups like moveon.org and PETA. Rich liberals like George Soros can bankroll this (and provide satellite dishes if needed). The message is what counts, not making money, right? Some college stations might have no problem putting this on, as they might already air "Democracy Now!" or shows like "Counter Spin" and "Radio Nation". A few might have open slots in the afternoon (hey, student DJs are in class and it beats dead air). Of course in some places the student DJs may revolt if it involves them losing existing shows (kind of like what happened at WUML once the Lowell Sun moved in). but... Mr. Franken? Ms. Garofolo? The mighty 130 watt signal of WMWM awaits you! :) From sid@wrko.com Sun Apr 25 14:41:12 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun Apr 25 14:42:32 2004 Subject: How about...Air America on college radio? Message-ID: >>They do have some money to throw around...< Without affiliations in the #2 and #3 markets, I seriously doubt it. >>here's an idea. Have them approach one or several of the college stations in town and offer to have one or more AA shows carried "for free". (Or PAY the college stations to run Franken.)<< Not bloody likely. You'd see an immediate revolt by their investors, who don't give money to such causes out of the goodness of their collective hearts. They are looking for a return on their investment. Freebies don't do it. >>Since college stations can't run commercials, either AA or the stations themselves can fill ad breaks with promos, PSAs, or advocacy announcements from groups like moveon.org and PETA. Rich liberals like George Soros can bankroll this (and provide satellite dishes if needed). The message is what counts, not making money, right?<< If that's what you really believe, I want some of what you're smoking. AA's biggest problem, aside from the generally poor quality of its programming, is circulation. It's the same problem that beset ABC-TV in its early years: The number of markets in which they were frozen out or relegated to low-power-VHF or UHF stations, that didn't cover the market. AA is, so far, on marginal or downright crappy signals, since all the 50-kW blowtorches are already taken. They need to get onto high-power, wide-coverage stations, and they need to do it fast, before the investors panic. Nickel-and-diming themselves onto college stations isn't gonna cut it. And I'm sure George Soros appreciates your plans for his money. >>A few might have open slots in the afternoon (hey, student DJs are in class and it beats dead air).<< So if those student DJ's are in class, who's going to run the network programming and roll over those commercials with non-commercial matter? Not every college station is automated yet. Then we come to school vacations and holidays, when non-comms can be off the air and not have it count against the required minimum operating schedule. How does that help AA? Bottom line: What you're proposing is for AA to add audience without adding revenue. That is fiscally irresponsible in the extreme. Whether you're on the commercial or non-commercial side of the aisle, broadcasting is a business. Those in broadcasting who forget it are doomed to failure. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 ========================= CE, WDJM-FM / Framingham State College From oldradio@earthlink.net Sun Apr 25 14:52:46 2004 From: oldradio@earthlink.net (RBB) Date: Sun Apr 25 14:52:54 2004 Subject: Jerry Howorth Dies References: <6.0.3.0.0.20040425084339.01af3a38@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <180301c42af6$810f4700$ab40bb3f@S0031698896> <<> Ayup! That would be "Slim" Pickins (AKA the late-Jerry Howorth or "Howard") But, he's not the same guy who did the Pepperidge Farm radio spots, as I understand. =Russ From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Sun Apr 25 16:43:04 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Apr 25 16:43:13 2004 Subject: How about...Air America on college radio? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040425204304.2749.qmail@web60805.mail.yahoo.com> --- Sid Schweiger wrote: > >>They do have some money to throw around...< > > Without affiliations in the #2 and #3 markets, I > seriously doubt it. Yeah, I was kinda being satirical here...if they can't get in Chicago or LA, try college radio! Yeah, right. :) > Not bloody likely. You'd see an immediate revolt by > their investors, who don't give money to such causes > out of the goodness of their collective hearts. > They are looking for a return on their investment. > Freebies don't do it. (Cheech and Chong voice): "Like, wow, man...you mean if we don't sell advertising we'll, like, go out of business? FAR OUT, man!" :) Yes. > If that's what you really believe, I want some of > what you're smoking. AA's biggest problem, aside > from the generally poor quality of its programming, > is circulation. Yes--though in all honesty the shows I mentioned which are run on some college stations do get to a target audience. Not a big audience, but the folks who listen to college radio would me more likely to check out "Democracy Now" than conservative shows. And even then, it may not be too many people. AA is, so far, on marginal or downright > crappy signals, since all the 50-kW blowtorches are > already taken. They need to get onto high-power, > wide-coverage stations, and they need to do it fast, > before the investors panic. Nickel-and-diming > themselves onto college stations isn't gonna cut it. Yes, and maybe this is something they should have done long ago...First, only focus on doing individual show syndication and do the shows well. Bit by bit they would pick up an audience, though then again talk radio is a response to the left-dominated TV media (all but Fox News, pretty much). I've heard some liberals say "there is no liberal media (bias)". I'd like to have some of what THEY'RE smoking! :) > So if those student DJ's are in class, who's going > to run the network programming and roll over those > commercials with non-commercial matter? Not every > college station is automated yet. Mine, WMWM, sure isn't though they say we'll get a computer soon and do some kind of automation but it's taking a long time for WMWM to gets anything like that going. We do have a guy named Shaun Hayes who runs shows like "Radio Nation" and "Counter Spin" once a week and he puts the PSAs in. Once a week, though. (He's not a student but an outside volunteer.) Then we come to > school vacations and holidays, when non-comms can be > off the air and not have it count against the > required minimum operating schedule. How does that > help AA? Exactly. > Bottom line: What you're proposing is for AA to add > audience without adding revenue. That is fiscally > irresponsible in the extreme. > > Whether you're on the commercial or non-commercial > side of the aisle, broadcasting is a business. > Those in broadcasting who forget it are doomed to > failure. Which is what AA is quickly learning. I would wonder if the network is trying at this point in Boston to see if they can maybe sell ONE of its shows to a smaller station here. Bob Bittner, gotten any calls from them yet? :) From sid@wrko.com Sun Apr 25 17:19:00 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun Apr 25 17:20:32 2004 Subject: Jerry Howorth Dies Message-ID: >>he's not the same guy who did the Pepperidge Farm radio spots, as I understand.<< CAUTION: Age revelation follows... The Pepperidge Fahm (misspelling on purpose) spots, on radio and TV, were voiced by Parker Fennelly (as "Titus Moody"), he of the thick down-East accent and "pretty funny, bub, but that ain't the way I heard it" on "Allen's Alley," the radio vehicle for the late comedian Fred Allen. "...because, Pepperidge Fahm remembahs!" Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Apr 25 18:12:38 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun Apr 25 18:12:47 2004 Subject: How about...Air America on college radio? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 2:41 PM -0400 4/25/04, Sid Schweiger wrote: > AA's biggest problem, aside from the generally poor quality of its >programming, How do you know this? Have you actually heard AirAmerica for any length of time, or are you just repeating hearsay? I listen to AA via Sirius, and while their programming is somewhat uneven still, it has improved greatly from their first day. If you're expecting Al Franken to be just a comedian, you will soon find that he can be a serious, well informed political commentator as well. Randi Rhodes is great, she can stand up to the best of them. Jeanine Garofalo is not trying to be funny, but as of last week she still sounded a bit uncomfortable as a talk host, but this could improve with time. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From sid@wrko.com Sun Apr 25 18:58:50 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun Apr 25 19:00:02 2004 Subject: How about...Air America on college radio? Message-ID: >>How do you know this? Have you actually heard AirAmerica for any length of time, or are you just repeating hearsay?<< I've been listening. While Randi Rhodes has extensive talk-radio experience (and it shows), the rest of the hosts are...well, are what was generally expected from liberals with no radio experience. They spend endless time effectively interviewing each other, talking to guests with identical viewpoints to theirs, congratulating each other, and worst of all, falling into the easiest talk-radio trap to fall into: repeat callers. The "get Bush out of office" drumbeat gets old really fast, and it seems like they have so little else to talk about. I understand they didn't even hire a program director for the network until two weeks in, and their bonehead moves which got them off the air in LA and Chicago didn't help. Programming-wise, they still think it's ideology that will make them or break them, and it isn't. If they don't start being entertaining, and soon, nothing else will matter. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Apr 25 19:08:51 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Apr 25 19:08:57 2004 Subject: How about...Air America on college radio? References: Message-ID: <002701c42b1a$45f5b090$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Schweiger" To: Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 6:58 PM Subject: Re: How about...Air America on college radio? > Programming-wise, they still think it's ideology that will make them or break them, and it isn't. If they don't start being entertaining, and soon, nothing else will matter. Not following a business model that has worked before is also a fatal flaw. I understand their idea is to have stations that are seen as the liberal talk station and that might make sense from a branding standpoint. But if Rush had taken that approach in 1988 and insisted that every station take shows from 3 less talented conservative talk hosts along with his show, he would not have made it. Rush is now on many stations that have primarily conservative talk shows but that is because his show established that such an approach could eb a success on a national basis. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun Apr 25 19:57:19 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sun Apr 25 19:57:24 2004 Subject: How about...Air America on college radio? In-Reply-To: <20040425170228.80259.qmail@web60807.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01c42b21$0bc15030$c3ec33d1@alvin> > Some college stations might have no problem putting > this on, as they might already air "Democracy Now!" or > shows like "Counter Spin" and "Radio Nation". > A few might have open slots in the afternoon (hey, > student DJs are in class and it beats dead air). Of > course in some places the student DJs may revolt if it > involves them losing existing shows (kind of like what > happened at WUML once the Lowell Sun moved in). but... > > > Mr. Franken? Ms. Garofolo? The mighty 130 watt signal > of WMWM awaits you! :) > Puhlease! I have a hard enough time keeping my lunch down when I have to run those PSA's for the Rutherford Institute. If I had to run promos for Air America, I'd have to start packing a bulk eraser every time I did a shift. (Gee, something seems to be wrong with this cart...). Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com From kiss102@together.net Sun Apr 25 13:07:26 2004 From: kiss102@together.net (Kiss 102 F.M.) Date: Sun Apr 25 20:57:56 2004 Subject: Jerry Howard Message-ID: Hi! I am Barry Lunderville, the Producer of Radio New England Magazine, which aired on variously 75 to 90 New England Radio Stations between July of 1983, and Early November 1993. 579 editions, and Jerry Howard (Slim Pickins) was indeed the signature on every single edition. He would begin with "Pickin's Talkin", Oh Say" and on he would go with the joke of the day. He was wonderful. The off color out takes of his many recording sessions with me are precious, and I will have to dig some of the out of storage to share with the rest of you. I met Jerry Howard (Howarth, only in the Phone book) when I was just 20 years old and secured an on air position at WJDA in Quincy, on my way to Boston. He lit up every day of every life. He never had a sick day, so he was always right there in one of the chairs in the lobby of WJDA waiting for his next on air assignment on the station. (Program Director Win Bettinson would put an announcer's initials beside each element on the station play log) Jerry had a story for every instance he would come out of the studio and sit in the chair. He left WJDA circa 1976 or so, and worked for Ed Perry during the infancy of WATD (as has been reported) then on to WPLM, for a few years, then into retirement up in New Hampshire. Radio New England came along just as he retired, and it gave him yet another decade of entertaining the public he loved so much. I will miss him. Jay Asher (Owner of WJDA) and I attended the visiting hours in Wakefield. Regards to all, Barry Lunderville WXXS-FM From kvahey@tmail.com Sun Apr 25 22:47:17 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun Apr 25 22:47:48 2004 Subject: Jerry Howorth Dies Message-ID: <1082947637.28EC759B@w5.dngr.org> I remember him doing the weather on Ch 4 before they hired Don Kent at WBZ I m old On 04/25/04 at 18:52 RBB wrote: > << homespun > wisdom that used the name "Pickens" (no first name that I ever heard). > Same guy?">> > > Ayup! That would be "Slim" Pickins (AKA the late-Jerry Howorth or "Howard") > But, he's not the same guy who did the Pepperidge Farm radio spots, as I > understand. =Russ From wftn@comcast.net Sun Apr 25 22:50:47 2004 From: wftn@comcast.net (wftn@comcast.net) Date: Sun Apr 25 22:50:57 2004 Subject: Radio New England Magazine Message-ID: <042620040250.18204.408C79070009D8850000471C2200735834FF918B99@comcast.net> Hi Barry, I remember loading those reel-to-reels on Sunday mornings of Radio New England Magazine at 8:00 right after airing the vinyl of Powerline. Your comments brought back memories of my first start at radio which paved my way to an on-air radio shift on weekends and a music programming job at our new FM station( I started when we were just AM). Thanks for the memories and I recall the King Arthur Flower spots. By the way, it also brings back memories to hear you on spots on Kiss 102.3 when I am in north of Franconia Notch. Gary Ford WFTN-FM > Hi! I am Barry Lunderville, the Producer of Radio New England Magazine, > which aired on variously 75 to 90 New England Radio Stations between July of > 1983, and Early November 1993. 579 editions, and Jerry Howard (Slim > Pickins) was indeed the signature on every single edition. He would begin > with "Pickin's Talkin", Oh Say" and on he would go with the joke of the day. > He was wonderful. The off color out takes of his many recording sessions > with me are precious, and I will have to dig some of the out of storage to > share with the rest of you. > From kvahey@tmail.com Sun Apr 25 23:16:35 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:16:52 2004 Subject: Jerry Howorth Dies Message-ID: <1082949395.15312D24@r31.dngr.org> On 04/26/04 at 03:13 wrote: > That's pretty old. I believe that Don Kent started at WBZ radio in 1938. He > expanded to WBZ-TV in 1955. Jack Chase and Jerry at Noon Big Brother at 12 15 Oh the grass is always greenier From brian_vita@cssinc.com Mon Apr 26 06:44:19 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Mon Apr 26 06:44:30 2004 Subject: Jerry Howorth Dies References: <1082949395.15312D24@r31.dngr.org> Message-ID: <002b01c42b7b$6e367150$6500a8c0@brianhome> > > Jack Chase and Jerry at Noon Big Brother at 12 15 > > Oh the grass is always greenier > When the other guy is rolling it? Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 75 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5626 USA Sales: (800)231-8849/Sales Fax (800)329-2775 Bus Ofc +1-978-538-7575/Business Ofc Fax +1-978-538-7550 www.cssinc.com From tmw207@adelphia.net Mon Apr 26 11:07:12 2004 From: tmw207@adelphia.net (Terry Wood) Date: Mon Apr 26 11:25:52 2004 Subject: How about...Air America on college radio? References: Message-ID: <001a01c42ba0$27a2d100$e8163618@woodmvc1xkg0r1> They spend endless time effectively interviewing each other, talking to guests with identical viewpoints to theirs, congratulating each other, and worst of all, falling into the easiest talk-radio trap to fall into Gee, doesn't describe "Conservative talk Radio" as well? Anytime someone calls one of those on your station they get ridiculed and called unintelligent, especially by you star replacement for the great "Jerry Williams". Oh, how far RKO fell when they were sold to a conservative group like Entercom. Terry From nuhuc@juno.com Mon Apr 26 16:15:12 2004 From: nuhuc@juno.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Mon Apr 26 16:17:12 2004 Subject: How about...Air America on college radio? Message-ID: <20040426.131612.2932.7901@webmail01.lax.untd.com> -- "Sid Schweiger" , wrote: >>They spend endless time effectively interviewing each other, talking to guests with identical viewpoints to theirs, congratulating each other, and worst of all, falling into the easiest talk-radio trap to fall into<< Yeah, that's what I hear too. When you have a group of people sitting around discussing politics, and everyone is agreeing with each other, that can spell, umm, boredom. Conflict is what I believe makes the listening compelling. Limbaugh has a way of presenting both sides (well, his own slant on the liberal side) and then stating his case... this makes listening more interesting. The other thing I've noticed was that they leave the same caller on for long periods of time. This might be due to the fact that no one is calling, and so by default, people just get left on, but sounds a bit bush-league to me. Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Apr 26 16:54:36 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Apr 26 16:54:58 2004 Subject: Severin Enters Ozone Layer Message-ID: >DATE: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:49:19 >From: Bob Nelson >To: lglavin@lycos.com, boston-radio->interest@bostonradio.org Cc: >Severin was "out sick" yesterday, replaced by a live >pick-up of the syndie Sean Hannity, which WTKK >regularly runs tape-delayed at 10 pm. Hannity told >his 'TKK listeners, "Jay will be back Monday; let >not your heart be troubled". No mention of Severin's >remarks being the reason for his absence (if indeed >they were). > Jay was back today (04/26) and denied he ever made those comments. Someone called and told him to stop whining, but he claimed he wasn't whining RIGHT AFTER whining! (He claimed that a story in the Sunday Globe kept him from enjoying the Red Sox game that day.) ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Mon Apr 26 17:31:41 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Mon Apr 26 17:33:10 2004 Subject: Radio New England Magazine In-Reply-To: <042620040250.18204.408C79070009D8850000471C2200735834FF918B99@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000201c42bd5$df3d9540$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Of Barry Lunderville's appearance on the scene with his fond recollection of Jerry Howard, Gary wrote of Radio New England (RNE) Magazine: >> I remember loading those reel-to-reels on Sunday mornings of Radio New England Magazine at 8:00 right after airing the vinyl of Powerline. Your comments brought back memories of my first start at radio which paved my way to an on-air radio shift on weekends and a music programming job at our new FM station( I started when we were just AM). Thanks for the memories and I recall the King Arthur Flower spots. << I, too, remember rackin' the reels-o'tape from Barry & Company on the weekend. And woe be unto those of us who forgot to return the reels! (duckin' & grinnin', Barry) ;-) As I mentioned to Barry in a separate, off-list reply, the show, Radio New England Magazine, was a fun hour of radio with, yes, lots of ideas on how to best use a bag of King Arthur Flour, and also had a variety of regional flavor, such as Jerry's "Pickens" character, and some nice ideas of things to do, too. (not unlike the abbreviated-yet-timely WBZ New England Weekend minutes) My condolences to Jerry's family and friends, such as Barry, and thanks for a fun radio flashback. Now, if I can only get an engineer in here to help me thread this tape... - -Chuck Igo From paul@03038.com Mon Apr 26 17:26:50 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Mon Apr 26 17:36:06 2004 Subject: How about...Air America on college radio? In-Reply-To: <001a01c42ba0$27a2d100$e8163618@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Message-ID: <004a01c42bd6$f7c69980$0e87fea9@q0002> Did WRKO's quality go down for non-ideological reasons that you could enumerate, or is being/broadcasting Conservative programming so heinous in of itself that your view is based upon ideology alone? -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of Terry Wood Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:07 AM To: Sid Schweiger; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: How about...Air America on college radio? They spend endless time effectively interviewing each other, talking to guests with identical viewpoints to theirs, congratulating each other, and worst of all, falling into the easiest talk-radio trap to fall into Gee, doesn't describe "Conservative talk Radio" as well? Anytime someone calls one of those on your station they get ridiculed and called unintelligent, especially by you star replacement for the great "Jerry Williams". Oh, how far RKO fell when they were sold to a conservative group like Entercom. Terry From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Apr 26 17:42:22 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon Apr 26 17:43:35 2004 Subject: Severin Enters Ozone Layer References: Message-ID: <000c01c42bd7$73655400$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Well, if he didn't say what he has been widely reported as saying, what DID he say? If he is as valuable to WTKK as he is alleged to be, many people must have heard him and some of them may even read this list. It's undoubtedly too much to hope that somebody was rolling tape and can transcribe what he said, but somebody must have been listening. If so, what do you remember hearing him say? BTW, Only a couple of days after Ozone was pulled from the air on WRKO for comments similar to those Severin allegedly made more recetly on WTKK, I heard Michael Savage on WRKO making comments very similar to those that Ozone reportedly had made. I raised the issue here and on Radio-Info.com. Not only was there no brouha-ha on this list or that board, but nobody even made note of my report. And of course, Savage went on--and continues to go on--spewing his venom night after night. Seems to me that any talk host who is regarded as sufficiently valuable by his station or syndicator can get by with any sort of attack on Muslims--but is likely to get at least a wrist slap for attacks on other groups (and of late for just about any explicit sexual comment). Yes, talk shows are all about voicing opinions, but there are things that hosts are permitted to say and things that they aren't. And station rules about what can't be said are definitely influenced by the dollar amount of--and to a lesser extent by the number of--FCC fines for inappropriate speech. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurence Glavin To: ; ; Bob Nelson Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 4:54 PM Subject: Re: Severin Enters Ozone Layer > >DATE: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:49:19 > >From: Bob Nelson > >To: lglavin@lycos.com, boston-radio->interest@bostonradio.org > Cc: > > >Severin was "out sick" yesterday, replaced by a live > >pick-up of the syndie Sean Hannity, which WTKK > >regularly runs tape-delayed at 10 pm. Hannity told > >his 'TKK listeners, "Jay will be back Monday; let > >not your heart be troubled". No mention of Severin's > >remarks being the reason for his absence (if indeed > >they were). > > > Jay was back today (04/26) and denied he ever made those comments. > Someone called and told him to stop whining, but he > claimed he wasn't whining RIGHT AFTER whining! > (He claimed that a story in the Sunday Globe kept him > from enjoying the Red Sox game that day.) > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Apr 26 18:45:26 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon Apr 26 18:45:30 2004 Subject: Traffic report come to Portland: Is this progress? Message-ID: <004201c42be0$2ac02280$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Saga starting broadcasting traffic reports twice an hour during drive time on WGAN and WZAN today. I do not know if the reports are on the other Saga stations in the market as well. Before today, the only regular traffic reports that I remember in Maine where on WYNZ AM & FM back in the late 1980's when 295 into Portland was being rebuilt. Since then traffic reports have been limited to accidents and snow storms. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From wftn@comcast.net Mon Apr 26 20:43:00 2004 From: wftn@comcast.net (wftn@comcast.net) Date: Mon Apr 26 20:43:11 2004 Subject: Radio New England Magazine Message-ID: <042720040043.14680.408DAC94000966B3000039582200735834FF918B99@comcast.net> As our good friend Chuck wrote: > I, too, remember rackin' the reels-o'tape from Barry & Company on the > weekend. And woe be unto those of us who forgot to return the reels! > (duckin' & grinnin', Barry) ;-) I had forgotten all about returning the reels!! They came in a box just big enough for the reel to sit in and after you took the new reel out you folded the box the other way with a return address and postage affixed so you could return the reel. As Chuck indicated, it was a fun show and I remember Barry trying to bring it back at one point with a new name that didn't mention New England(memory failing me right now). > > Now, if I can only get an engineer in here > to help me thread this tape... > Yes, there is probably people reading this wondering what a reel-to-reel is. Thanks for even more memories, Gary Ford WFTN-FM From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Tue Apr 27 01:38:31 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Tue Apr 27 01:38:35 2004 Subject: Post-Stern Ratings Collapse Message-ID: <20040427053831.95670.qmail@web12824.mail.yahoo.com> Was just browsing news articles on Yahoo, and found this http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040426/media_nm/leisure_stern_dc_2 The article is about Howard Stern's ratings going back up in several major markets nationwide since the latest FCC furor over his show. However, at the bottom of the article, there's a little blurb about one of the Clear Channel stations that pulled his show off the air, KIOZ-FM in San Diego, CA. Apparently, since they pulled his show, morning drive ratings have dropped from an 8.9 in February to a 0.7 in March! Man I am so glad I'm not in that PD's shoes right now Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From mixer@zoso.net Tue Apr 27 07:47:27 2004 From: mixer@zoso.net (Jeremy Mixer) Date: Tue Apr 27 06:43:53 2004 Subject: WBLM Morn Show Promos In-Reply-To: <20040427102010.29236.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040427102010.29236.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Cooper Fox wrote: > In the past week or so I have noticed that WBLM is > running morning show promos. Is this something new? > Maybe something to hold on to(or gain new) morning > show listeners? Or have I just not heard them in the past? They have always done this. As a matter of fact, the first thing I ever did in the world of radio was record a promo for the morning show with then Producer Brett Slater after participating in a girl scout cookie eating contest on the morning show. From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Apr 27 07:28:53 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Apr 27 07:28:52 2004 Subject: How about...Air America on college radio? In-Reply-To: <001a01c42ba0$27a2d100$e8163618@woodmvc1xkg0r1> References: <001a01c42ba0$27a2d100$e8163618@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040427071917.01bb1130@pop3.bit-net.com> Terry Wood wrote: >Anytime someone calls one of those on your station they get ridiculed and >called unintelligent, especially by you star replacement for the great >"Jerry Williams". Oh, how far RKO fell when they were sold to a >conservative group like Entercom. Each to their own taste. While his politics may have been different than many hosts of today, he certainly could be every bit as dismissive of callers who didn't share his views. Frankly, his continual ranting really got grating after a while (seat belt law, for example). As a radio geek I enjoyed his Mac Richmond stories, but the facts tended to get garbled after the 2nd or 3rd time you heard the same story. Yes, there are hosts who ridicule callers who disagree with them, but let's not paint all hosts with the same brush. There is no denying that Jerry was way ahead of his time, but by the mid-80s his time had clearly come and gone. By the time he lost his shift to Howie he was pretty much mailing it in himself. There is little sadder in this industry than someone who doesn't know when to hang up the 'phones. From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Apr 27 07:47:17 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Apr 27 07:47:13 2004 Subject: Post-Stern Ratings Collapse In-Reply-To: <20040427053831.95670.qmail@web12824.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040427053831.95670.qmail@web12824.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040427073759.01af4350@pop3.bit-net.com> Matthew Osborne wrote: >The article is about Howard Stern's ratings going back >up in several major markets nationwide since the >latest FCC furor over his show. I'm sure there is a bit of curiosity as to what all the fuss is about. The $64 question is whether they'll stay, or drift away once the novelty has worn off. Howard is one of those who you either like or don't...not much middle ground. > However, at the >bottom of the article, there's a little blurb about >one of the Clear Channel stations that pulled his show >off the air, KIOZ-FM in San Diego, CA. Apparently, >since they pulled his show, morning drive ratings have >dropped from an 8.9 in February to a 0.7 in March! >Man I am so glad I'm not in that PD's shoes right now Well, duh! Stern's audience tends to tune in for Stern alone and then scatters at 10am. With him gone, why would they continue to listen? It's gonna take some time to attract a new audience to that time slot. From scott@fybush.com Tue Apr 27 10:35:31 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Apr 27 10:35:29 2004 Subject: Coming to Boston (really!) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040427102942.038529a8@gwind.pair.com> Hey Gang, The weather's nicer (somewhat - they ARE predicting snow this afternoon), and so next week Lisa, Ari and I will hit the Thruway and the Mass Pike and finally make the Boston trip that we tried to make back in January. It looks like we'll be in Boston from Tuesday May 4 until Friday May 7. I'm thinking that Thursday May 6 would be a good evening for a NERW Friends and Family Dinner. We had been talking about the Bertucci's at Alewife, and that still works for me. Comments, RSVPs, etc. are welcome... s From ssmyth@psu.edu Tue Apr 27 11:08:23 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue Apr 27 11:08:27 2004 Subject: Coming to Boston (really!) Message-ID: <200404271508.LAA25415@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:35:31 +0000, Scott Fybush wrote: > It looks like we'll be in Boston from Tuesday May 4 until Friday May 7. I'm > thinking that Thursday May 6 would be a good evening for a NERW Friends and > Family Dinner. We had been talking about the Bertucci's at Alewife, and > that still works for me. Comments, RSVPs, etc. are welcome... It's a shame you guys won't be in town until Saturday. I'd definitely like to join you but I'm stuck in the morass of final exams until Friday afternoon. There need to be more of these NERW/b-r-i gatherings! From tmw207@adelphia.net Tue Apr 27 11:48:22 2004 From: tmw207@adelphia.net (Terry Wood) Date: Tue Apr 27 11:48:32 2004 Subject: How about...Air America on college radio? References: <004a01c42bd6$f7c69980$0e87fea9@q0002> Message-ID: <002201c42c6f$1292a950$e8163618@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Ideology is not the reason, it is the idiocy of some of the hosts. I grew up listening to intelligent talk with Jerry Williams. Now we get the Howie Carr Gossip show. Not real intelligent talk. So I turn to BZ and listen to intelligence. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hopfgarten" To: "'Terry Wood'" ; "'Sid Schweiger'" ; Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 5:26 PM Subject: RE: How about...Air America on college radio? > Did WRKO's quality go down for non-ideological reasons that you could > enumerate, or is being/broadcasting Conservative programming so heinous in > of itself that your view is based upon ideology alone? > > -Paul Hopfgarten > -East Derry NH > > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf > Of Terry Wood > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:07 AM > To: Sid Schweiger; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: How about...Air America on college radio? > > > They spend endless time effectively interviewing each other, talking to > guests with identical viewpoints to theirs, congratulating each other, and > worst of all, falling into the easiest talk-radio trap to fall into > > Gee, doesn't describe "Conservative talk Radio" as well? > > Anytime someone calls one of those on your station they get ridiculed and > called unintelligent, especially by you star replacement for the great > "Jerry Williams". Oh, how far RKO fell when they were sold to a > conservative group like Entercom. > > Terry > > > From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Apr 27 12:49:14 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Apr 27 12:49:18 2004 Subject: Coming to Boston (really!) In-Reply-To: <200404271508.LAA25415@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> References: <200404271508.LAA25415@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <55274.216.204.15.170.1083084554.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> > There need to be more of these NERW/b-r-i gatherings! Agreed. Had a good time at the first Gary's Ice Cream cookout ('99?) From ssmyth@psu.edu Tue Apr 27 12:58:23 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue Apr 27 12:58:36 2004 Subject: Coming to Boston (really!) In-Reply-To: <55274.216.204.15.170.1083084554.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <000d01c42c78$da1fa0a0$59464742@Sean> Steve Ordinetz writes: > Agreed. Had a good time at the first Gary's Ice Cream cookout ('99?) I believe it was 2000, actually (ISTR I was out of town that summer and couldn't make it). Sadly Mr. Fybush has one of those things called a family now, meaning his travels are limited. Is that really what I have to look forward to when I finally become "responsible" and "settle down"? From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Apr 28 01:15:03 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Apr 28 01:15:21 2004 Subject: Post-Stern Ratings Collapse In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040427073759.01af4350@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <20040427053831.95670.qmail@web12824.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <408F0597.8025.5C3541@localhost> On 27 Apr 2004 at 7:47, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > I'm sure there is a bit of curiosity as to what all the fuss is about. > The $64 question is whether they'll stay, or drift away once the novelty > has worn off. Howard is one of those who you either like or don't...not > much middle ground. It probably couldn't hurt that MAD Magazine has a feature spoofing him this month. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Apr 28 01:15:03 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Apr 28 01:15:27 2004 Subject: Coming to Boston (really!) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040427102942.038529a8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <408F0597.26344.5C35AA@localhost> On 27 Apr 2004 at 10:35, Scott Fybush wrote: > It looks like we'll be in Boston from Tuesday May 4 until Friday May 7. > I'm thinking that Thursday May 6 would be a good evening for a NERW > Friends and Family Dinner. We had been talking about the Bertucci's at > Alewife, and that still works for me. Comments, RSVPs, etc. are welcome... I think I can make it. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Apr 28 01:15:03 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Apr 28 01:15:31 2004 Subject: Coming to Boston (really!) In-Reply-To: <55274.216.204.15.170.1083084554.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> References: <200404271508.LAA25415@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <408F0597.20758.5C361D@localhost> On 27 Apr 2004 at 12:49, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > > There need to be more of these NERW/b-r-i gatherings! > > Agreed. Had a good time at the first Gary's Ice Cream cookout ('99?) Me too. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Apr 29 13:42:57 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu Apr 29 13:43:15 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com> Okay fine, I understand we may all disagree on this, but censoring ABC Nightline??? How rude. Springfield is among the markets where the show will not air. Frankly, I don't get it. From Newsblues.com: "...Sinclair Broadcasting, which owns 62 television stations and reaches approximately 24% of the nation's viewers, has ordered its ABC affiliated stations not to carry tomorrow evening's "Nightline" episode, titled "The Fallen," which will air the names and photos of Americans who have died in Iraq. Explaining the decision, Sinclair General Counsel Barry Faber said, "We find it to be contrary to the public interest." Earlier, "Nightline" host Ted Koppel had expressed concern that the broadcast not be portrayed as a political gesture. "We had to be careful that it could not be seen as political on our part," he said, adding, "I think it can be seen just as powerfully by people who are totally supportive of the war, as those who aren't." The boycott will affect eight ABC affiliated Sinclair stations: KDNL St. Louis, WCHS Charleston, WV, WEAR Pensacola, FL, WGGB Springfield, MA, WLOS Asheville, NC, WSYX Columbus, OH. WTXL Tallahassee, FL, and WXLV Winston-Salem... Sinclair, which has pushed a decidedly [conservative] agenda on its centralized "NewsCentral" broadcasts, has a number of major ownership requests currently before the Republican-controlled Federal Communications Commission." From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Apr 29 14:33:40 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Apr 29 14:39:27 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <012a01c42e18$d3ef88c0$1404fea9@ne1.client2.attbi.com> When is or was this Nightline episode on...? JP From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Apr 29 15:29:35 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Apr 29 15:29:37 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> > Okay fine, I understand we may all disagree on this, but censoring ABC > Nightline??? How rude. Springfield is among the markets where the show > will not air. Frankly, I don't get it. > > From Newsblues.com: "...Sinclair Broadcasting, which owns 62 > television > stations and reaches approximately 24% of the nation's viewers, has > ordered its ABC affiliated stations not to carry tomorrow evening's > "Nightline" episode, titled "The Fallen," which will air the names and > photos of Americans who have died in Iraq. > Sinclair, which has pushed a decidedly [conservative] > agenda on its centralized "NewsCentral" broadcasts, has a number of > major ownership requests currently before the Republican-controlled > Federal Communications Commission." Are you saying that broadcast owners (whether it's a large group or a single owner) don't have the right to choose what programming they air? Or is it that you disagree with this particular decision? From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Apr 29 15:50:16 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Apr 29 15:50:19 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com> <63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <200404291950.i3TJoGv9018042@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Are you saying that broadcast owners (whether it's a large group or a > single owner) don't have the right to choose what programming they air? > Or is it that you disagree with this particular decision? I have to say that this is a rather unfortunate choice on Sinclair's part, but it doesn't advance the point made in the subject line at all. Years ago, parochial small-time operators (under the old rules of ``eight of a kind'') pre-empted more programming, more regularly, than any of the big groups do today. -GAWollman From markwats@comcast.net Thu Apr 29 16:38:52 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Apr 29 16:37:56 2004 Subject: Housing To Be Built On WSMN-Owned Land Message-ID: <002401c42e29$fc029120$64f88018@markscomputer> Today's Nashua Telegraph reports that the Nashua Zoning Board of Adjustment has approved a plan to a 40 unit single family housing development to be built on land located at 502 West Hollis St., land that is owned by the 1590 Broadcasting Corporation, who own WSMN (1590 Nashua) and upon said land the station's studios and transmitter site are located. The article doesn't mention anything about how this will affect the operation of the station. One would have to guess that if the station isn't moving it's transmitter site, then these folks who buy these new houses will have a 3 tower directional array to look at. Or is this the end of WSMN? There really isn't much land left in the area to build a new 3 tower directional. Mark Watson From sid@wrko.com Thu Apr 29 16:51:40 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu Apr 29 16:53:00 2004 Subject: Housing To Be Built On WSMN-Owned Land Message-ID: >>Today's Nashua Telegraph reports that the Nashua Zoning Board of Adjustment has approved a plan to a 40 unit single family housing development to be built on land located at 502 West Hollis St., land that is owned by the 1590 Broadcasting Corporation, who own WSMN (1590 Nashua) and upon said land the station's studios and transmitter site are located. The article doesn't mention anything about how this will affect the operation of the station. One would have to guess that if the station isn't moving it's transmitter site, then these folks who buy these new houses will have a 3 tower directional array to look at. Or is this the end of WSMN? There really isn't much land left in the area to build a new 3 tower directional.<< Let's hope this developer knows what he's getting into. Building anything in the near-field of an AM directional requires an STA (and a partial proof when it's all done), and hopefully WSMN is going to hold the developer liable for all costs associated with putting the directional array right after the building is up. Having been there, I can safely say that the bills mount up rather quickly. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Apr 29 16:57:45 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu Apr 29 16:58:03 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <200404291950.i3TJoGv9018042@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com> <63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com> >Garrett wrote=--= >Years ago, parochial small-time operators (under the old rules >of ``eight of a kind'') pre-empted more programming, more regularly, >than any of the big groups do today. Yes, but thanks to consolidation, there are fewer choices. Joe or Jane local owner may have banned something, but you could always find it elsewhere. These days, with station owners controlling entire markets, it is hard to get to see a controversial show. And why should reading the names of those who died in Iraq be worthy of a ban anyway? From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Apr 29 17:09:04 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Apr 29 17:09:18 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com> <200404291950.i3TJoGv9018042@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <200404292109.i3TL94RA018659@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > These days, with station owners controlling entire markets, it > is hard to get to see a controversial show. Please name a TV market in which one owner controls all of the stations. -GAWollman From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Apr 29 17:44:18 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Apr 29 17:44:37 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing Message-ID: >DATE: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:57:45 >From: Donna Halper > >Yes, but thanks to consolidation, there are fewer choices. Joe or Jane >local owner may have banned something, but you could always find it >elsewhere. These days, with station owners controlling entire markets, it >is hard to get to see a controversial show. And why should reading the >names of those who died in Iraq be worthy of a ban anyway? > > When I get up in the morning, the President could have been assasinated overnight and I wouldn't know it yet because I roll tape of Comedy Central's "Daily Show" and the Jay Leno monologue. In a way I use my TV as a radio while I make coffee, feed the cat etc. But something today (04/29) drew me into the room for Jon Stewart: ABC is going to run a "20/20" in the form of a "reality show" with the grand prize of a baby to be put up for adoption. Later Leno commented on the show with a follow-up line about the concept being too gross for Fox. It strikes me that THIS is a show that ABC affils should be pre-empting. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Apr 29 17:57:12 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu Apr 29 17:57:28 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <200404292109.i3TL94RA018659@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com> <63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com> <200404291950.i3TJoGv9018042@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429171238.027ad190@pop.registeredsite.com> >Garrett wrote-- > >Please name a TV market in which one owner controls all of the >stations. It may not seem like such a big deal in Boston or Philly, but in smaller markets, it can be a major issue, since some of the giant media conglomerates now also own the newspaper and a bunch of radio stations, and can thus keep certain stories from being reported or covered in print, on radio, or on TV. This has been thoroughly documented by Columbia Journalism Review (check their who owns what page: http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/ In smaller cities, it tends to be religious broadcasters that own a majority of the stations. A friend of mine lives in Savannah TN, and in her market, there are as many as 29 low power TV transitters. And I have consulted in plenty of small markets where there was basically one channel that got into the market well, and everything else was from the cable networks. Another problem is that in some cities, while the local station *seems* to originate from that market, the news comes from one central location-- Sinclair Broadcasting elininated its local news shows and syndicates all of its newscasts, making it seem through little mentions ("Gee, Garrett, it's such a sunny day and the Red Sox won!") that the show is coming from that city, when in fact it's all done from a studio in Baltimore and adheres to Sinclair's conservative philosophy. As one media critic wrote in his article "The Death of Local News": [Tune into the evening news on Madison, Wisconsin's Fox TV affiliate and behold the future of local news. In the program's concluding segment, "The Point," Mark Hyman rants against peace activists ("wack-jobs"), the French ("cheese-eating surrender monkeys"), progressives ("loony left") and the so-called liberal media, usually referred to as the "hate-America crowd" or the "Axis of Drivel." Colorful, if creatively anemic, this is TV's version of talk radio, with the precisely tanned Hyman playing a second-string Limbaugh. Fox 47's right-wing rants may be the future of hometown news, but ? believe it or not ? it's not the program's blatant ideological bias that is most worrisome. Here's the real problem: Hyman isn't the station manager, a local crank, or even a journalist. He is the Vice President of Corporate Communications for the station's owner, the Sinclair Broadcast Group. And this segment of the local news isn't exactly local. Hyman's commentary is piped in from the home office in Baltimore, MD, and mixed in with locally-produced news. Sinclair aptly calls its innovative strategy "NewsCentral" - it is very likely to spell the demise of local news as we know it...] end of excerpt, but entire article can be read at http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15718 (Btw, the fact that they are conservative doesn't bother me as much as the fact that they are the only game in town in several cities... so, in a market which is dominated by Sinclair, where else can people get a "local" newscast?) From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Apr 29 18:01:06 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Apr 29 18:01:19 2004 Subject: Emily Rooney's Mother Dies Message-ID: Emily rooney's mother died yesterday. (Emily is the host of WGBH/WGBX'TV's "Greater Boston") Emily is the daughter of "60 Minutes" curmudgeon Andy Rooney. Read obit while it lasts at: http://azcentral.com/news/articles/0428rooney-obit28-ON.html This very likely means that John Carroll will host tomorrow's "Beat the Press" segment...there should be more about Jay Severin's transgression last week. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From scott@fybush.com Thu Apr 29 18:17:36 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Apr 29 18:17:38 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <200404292109.i3TL94RA018659@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com><5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com><200404291950.i3TJoGv9018042@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu><5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com> <200404292109.i3TL94RA018659@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <14655.66.36.29.157.1083277056.squirrel@webmail3.pair.com> > < > said: > >> These days, with station owners controlling entire markets, it >> is hard to get to see a controversial show. > > Please name a TV market in which one owner controls all of the > stations. I can name several in which one owner controls all the local news operations. How about Utica, where Smith's WKTV (NBC) is the only station doing local news (the ABC and Fox affiliates have none)? And of course there's White River Junction and Presque Isle... s From scott@fybush.com Thu Apr 29 18:26:41 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Apr 29 18:26:43 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <200404291950.i3TJoGv9018042@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com><63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> <200404291950.i3TJoGv9018042@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <14756.66.36.29.157.1083277601.squirrel@webmail3.pair.com> > I have to say that this is a rather unfortunate choice on Sinclair's > part, but it doesn't advance the point made in the subject line at > all. Years ago, parochial small-time operators (under the old rules > of ``eight of a kind'') pre-empted more programming, more regularly, > than any of the big groups do today. But when they did, it affected a smaller number of markets. To cite some of the more egregious examples, when the network affiliates in Jackson, Mississippi pre-empted network newscasts during many of the big civil-rights events of the sixties, it affected only viewers in Jackson (and was a decision made by local owners, to boot, unlike the Sinclair decision, which came down from headquarters with, it would appear, no local input sought or heeded.) If this were a Fox network show being pre-empted (less likely, I admit), a decision by Sinclair not to carry the program would affect viewers in several dozen markets (including mine!) And if Fox ever decided to pre-empt a UPN show across the UPN affiliates that it owns - including those in New York, Chicago, Philadelphia and Minneapolis-St. Paul - UPN might as well just cancel its broadcasts that night. So I'll side with Steve here and say that while this isn't a media consolidation issue per se, its effects are certainly multiplied by media consolidation. And I wonder how this will affect ABC's pending affiliation deal with Sinclair's soon-to-lose-NBC affiliates in Dayton, Ohio and central Illinois? s From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Apr 29 19:11:00 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Apr 29 19:11:05 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429171238.027ad190@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com> <63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com> <200404291950.i3TJoGv9018042@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <200404292109.i3TL94RA018659@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429171238.027ad190@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <200404292311.i3TNB0e4019518@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > (Btw, the fact that they are conservative doesn't bother me as much as the > fact that they are the only game in town in several cities... Again, please name one. -GAWollman From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 29 19:51:04 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Apr 29 19:51:09 2004 Subject: Housing To Be Built On WSMN-Owned Land References: <002401c42e29$fc029120$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <002c01c42e44$d56f46f0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Watson" To: Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:38 PM Subject: Housing To Be Built On WSMN-Owned Land > One would have to guess that if the station isn't moving it's > transmitter site, then these folks who buy these new houses will have a 3 > tower directional array to look at. Sounds like Scott Fybush's dream home! -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Apr 29 19:52:43 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu Apr 29 19:52:45 2004 Subject: Housing To Be Built On WSMN-Owned Land In-Reply-To: <002401c42e29$fc029120$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <20040429235243.95990.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> A long time ago I heard rumors that the directors were looking at land on the Nashua/Hollis border by Runnels Bridge Road. I think there is some old farm land there still in abundance. I don't know what ever came of it other than I was told that WSMN did not intend on folding. If they build there, they may be concerned with height restrictions due to the Pepperell airport. John Derry ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 29 19:55:53 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Apr 29 19:55:58 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com><63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com><5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com><200404291950.i3TJoGv9018042@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu><5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429171238.027ad190@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <005d01c42e45$81ef47e0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> So Hyman being pumped in from out of town is a problem but Jennings and Koppell are not? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 29 19:56:48 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Apr 29 19:56:52 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <005e01c42e45$a26d9c10$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:42 PM Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing > Okay fine, I understand we may all disagree on this, but censoring ABC > Nightline??? I don't agree with the decision but I thought one of the arguments against consolidation was homogenization of programming. It seems to be the networks like ABC did that to TV a long time before consolidation. The same shows at the same time all over the country. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Apr 29 20:09:45 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu Apr 29 20:09:53 2004 Subject: Beatles Stereo on Capitol Records Message-ID: <20040430000945.97665.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> I noticed listening to a local FM (mono) station that has a few older Beatles songs (Capitol Record era) in their rotation that it sounds like only half the audio is there. Some songs it's 90 percent instrumental with the lyrics/singing sounding like an echo. It looks like they are only picking up one of the channels (left or right??). Is there a term for the type of stereo separation they were using on those records? Did you need a special HI-FI or needle/cartridge to play back non-mono compatible records? John Derry NH ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From news@southstation.org Thu Apr 29 20:21:06 2004 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Thu Apr 29 20:21:21 2004 Subject: Beatles Stereo on Capitol Records In-Reply-To: <20040430000945.97665.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040430002111.WVRS22312.lakermmtao03.cox.net@main> The type of stereo used on some of the early Beatles stuff was strictly L, R orientation, as much was recorded in 3-track. A cartridge wired through for mono would combine the Left and Right channels, so you would hear everything in those channels. If one channel is out of phase or not connected and it happens to be the vocal channel, you would hear the instruments and the echo of what was added to that channel from the other. The primary voices would be full in the other channel which you are not hearing. A "mono" cartridge would have only one output; it is likely that if they are using turntables still, they should be equipped with stereo cartridges. And they should check the output of that with a test record to be sure its getting all the sound out through the audio chain. -Larry Lovering www.southstation.org -----Original Message----- From: John Bolduc Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:10 PM Subject: Beatles Stereo on Capitol Records I noticed listening to a local FM (mono) station that has a few older Beatles songs (Capitol Record era) in their rotation that it sounds like only half the audio is there. Some songs it's 90 percent instrumental with the lyrics/singing sounding like an echo. It looks like they are only picking up one of the channels (left or right??). Is there a term for the type of stereo separation they were using on those records? Did you need a special HI-FI or needle/cartridge to play back non-mono compatible records? John Derry NH ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From billo@shoreham.net Thu Apr 29 20:28:32 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Apr 29 20:28:34 2004 Subject: Housing To Be Built On WSMN-Owned Land In-Reply-To: <002401c42e29$fc029120$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <002501c42e4a$12093f30$0100007f@boneill> Mark W. writes: The > article doesn't mention anything about how this will affect > the operation of > the station. Read: 1510 Boston 20 years ago. But, in this case, who'd notice? Bill O'Neill From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Apr 29 20:56:24 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu Apr 29 20:56:35 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <005d01c42e45$81ef47e0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com> <63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com> <200404291950.i3TJoGv9018042@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429171238.027ad190@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429205518.027d22f0@pop.registeredsite.com> At 07:55 PM 4/29/2004 -0400, you wrote: >So Hyman being pumped in from out of town is a problem but Jennings and >Koppell are not? Umm, that is NOT what I said. Remember? I said I would have the same problem if anyone from any ideology were the only game in town such that both sides were not presented. The comments about Hyman were not mine. I quoted them from a media critic. From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Apr 29 21:54:42 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Apr 29 21:54:39 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429171238.027ad190@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com> <63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com> <200404291950.i3TJoGv9018042@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429171238.027ad190@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040429213648.01bbff10@pop3.bit-net.com> Donna Halper wrote: >In smaller cities, it tends to be religious broadcasters that own a >majority of the stations. A friend of mine lives in Savannah TN, and in >her market, there are as many as 29 low power TV transitters. And I have >consulted in plenty of small markets where there was basically one channel >that got into the market well, and everything else was from the cable >networks. But something like this was more relevant 20 or more years ago...before Dish network, before the majority of households had cable tv (not to mention the abundance of cable-only channels that didn't exist back then). There are so many other sources for news than just the local channel...this was not true in the old days. >[Tune into the evening news on Madison, Wisconsin's Fox TV affiliate and >behold the future of local news. In the program's concluding segment, "The >Point," Mark Hyman rants against peace activists ("wack-jobs"), the French >("cheese-eating surrender monkeys"), progressives ("loony left") and the >so-called liberal media, usually referred to as the "hate-America crowd" >or the "Axis of Drivel." Colorful, if creatively anemic, this is TV's >version of talk radio, with the precisely tanned Hyman playing a >second-string Limbaugh. Uhhh, this seems a bit one-sided. What about the liberals' negative portrayal of conservatives as "neanderthals", "hate-filled", "Bible thumpers", etc? Or is it OK to diss viewpoints at odds with your own? There is plenty of liberal-leaning tv around. >(Btw, the fact that they are conservative doesn't bother me as much as the >fact that they are the only game in town in several cities... so, in a >market which is dominated by Sinclair, where else can people get a "local" >newscast?) I agree that local news...radio or tv is becoming harder and harder to find. My guess is that now that station owners are not required to air programming on which they lose money (and a local news operation isn't exactly cheap to do...even more expensive to do well), increasingly they're not doing it any more. I'm not sure what the answer is. Realistically, how many markets are so isolated as to only have one news source? From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Apr 29 22:05:17 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Apr 29 22:05:11 2004 Subject: Housing To Be Built On WSMN-Owned Land In-Reply-To: <002401c42e29$fc029120$64f88018@markscomputer> References: <002401c42e29$fc029120$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040429215710.01b097a8@pop3.bit-net.com> Mark Watson wrote: > Today's Nashua Telegraph reports that the Nashua Zoning Board of >Adjustment has approved a plan to a 40 unit single family housing >development to be built on land located at 502 West Hollis St., land that is >owned by the 1590 Broadcasting Corporation, who own WSMN (1590 Nashua) and >upon said land the station's studios and transmitter site are located. The >article doesn't mention anything about how this will affect the operation of >the station. One would have to guess that if the station isn't moving it's >transmitter site, then these folks who buy these new houses will have a 3 >tower directional array to look at. Or is this the end of WSMN? There really >isn't much land left in the area to build a new 3 tower directional. I can't imagine that a 40-unit single family housing development will leave much space for a 3 tower DA unless there's a lot more land to this parcel than immediately meets the eye. The impression I got from a group of people who were brokering time on WSMN was that the tower site was coming down and a new one was needed. They seemed pretty naive about the whole thing and seemed to think that diplexing off WKBR's site (in Goffstown...outside of WSMN's current lobe) was an option. Given that WSMN has never made any money for anyone my guess is that 1590 will soon be a thing of the past. Even if they DID have the resources to find & construct a new site, the gov't red tape and NIMBYs would tie the process up for years. From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Apr 29 22:17:11 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Apr 29 22:17:19 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040429213648.01bbff10@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <000001c42e59$3f0648c0$59464742@Sean> Steve O. writes: > But something like this was more relevant 20 or more years > ago...before > Dish network, before the majority of households had cable tv (not to > mention the abundance of cable-only channels that didn't exist back > then). There are so many other sources for news than just the local > channel...this was not true in the old days. Let's also remember that many of the markets where Sinclair owns ABC affiliates aren't major markets. Of course, I don't have the list of ABC affiliates it owns in front of me but I'm guessing it's no more than 5 percent of the nation. I see your point, Steve, but also remember that most cable systems/dish operators are gonna feed their subscribers the local ABC affiliate. In some rare cases, you'll get a second ABC affiliate on your cable system (fortunately Penn State gets two ABC, Altoona/Johnstown and Scranton, and two NBC, Altoona/Johnstown and Pittsburgh, affiliates) but the days of that frequently happening seem to be long gone. (I must be getting older; I still vividly remember Cablevision carrying ALL the Providence stations on its Boston system lineup, in addition to WGN.) I think the point Donna was making was that one person (or, in this case, one company) can make a decision that affects a greater number of viewers in many more far-flung markets without any local input. In the old days, a local owner who heard from local advertisers, viewers, etc., every day would cave in to public pressure on something like this. Of course there were plenty of bad local owners out there (can anyone say Channel 9?). From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Apr 29 22:17:14 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Apr 29 22:17:27 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040429213648.01bbff10@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com> <63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com> <200404291950.i3TJoGv9018042@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040429171238.027ad190@pop.registeredsite.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20040429213648.01bbff10@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20040429221332.0287e0c8@mail.mac.com> At 09:54 PM 4/29/2004, SteveOrdinetz wrote: >I agree that local news...radio or tv is becoming harder and harder to find. That may be true in some of the smaller cities, but in the larger towns we are bombarded with local news, some of which may actually be newsworthy. We have two and a half hours of local news, followed by just a half hour of national and world news, then an hour of entertainment news. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Apr 29 22:20:52 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Apr 29 22:20:54 2004 Subject: Housing To Be Built On WSMN-Owned Land In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040429215710.01b097a8@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <002401c42e29$fc029120$64f88018@markscomputer> <6.0.3.0.0.20040429215710.01b097a8@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <200404300220.i3U2Kq54021114@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Even if they DID have the resources to find & construct a new site, > the gov't red tape and NIMBYs would tie the process up for years. All it takes is one year to lose your license -- although if they really intended to build a new site, they could keep the license alive by running a minimal facility on STA (perhaps diplexed from the WOTW stick downtown). Anyone care to speculate as to what the maximum power or service area available from that site would be, considering that they would have to protect WARV? -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Apr 29 22:23:08 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Apr 29 22:23:17 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <000001c42e59$3f0648c0$59464742@Sean> References: <6.0.3.0.0.20040429213648.01bbff10@pop3.bit-net.com> <000001c42e59$3f0648c0$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <200404300223.i3U2N88J021144@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > In the old days, a local owner who heard from local advertisers, > viewers, etc., every day would cave in to public pressure on > something like this. In the old days, it would have been GE or Storer or General Tire who would be in the position that Sinclair is now. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Thu Apr 29 22:26:55 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Apr 29 22:26:53 2004 Subject: Housing To Be Built On WSMN-Owned Land In-Reply-To: <002c01c42e44$d56f46f0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <002401c42e29$fc029120$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040429222355.03b99620@gwind.pair.com> At 07:51 PM 4/29/2004 -0400, Dan Billings wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Watson" >To: >Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:38 PM >Subject: Housing To Be Built On WSMN-Owned Land > > > > One would have to guess that if the station isn't moving it's > > transmitter site, then these folks who buy these new houses will have a 3 > > tower directional array to look at. > >Sounds like Scott Fybush's dream home! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! It's bad enough that I have in close proximity to my home: *Pinnacle Hill (4300 feet away) - full-power analog TV on 8, 10, 13, 21, 31; LPTV on 36, 42, 47; low-power DTV on 45, 58, 59; full-power DTV on 16; class B FMs on 91.5/96.5/97.9, class A FM on 94.1 *WHIC 1460, WHTK 1280 and my own WXXI 1370, all within 2 miles and all 5 kW DA-N, with the night lobe aimed right at me *WROC 950, less than 2 miles away, 1 kW DA-1, aimed right at me *WHAM 1180, 50 kW ND about 8 miles away. A DA in the backyard? No way!!! s From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 29 22:28:31 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Apr 29 22:28:35 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing References: <000001c42e59$3f0648c0$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <008601c42e5a$d48002f0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Smyth" To: "'SteveOrdinetz'" ; Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:17 PM Subject: RE: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing > I think the point Donna was making was that one person (or, in this case, > one company) can make a decision that affects a greater number of viewers in > many more far-flung markets without any local input. But the networks make decisions that effect a greater number of viewers than any station group. ABC deciding what everyone is every market should watch is fine but Sinclair deciding what people shouldn't watch in some markets is not? I don't get it. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 29 22:30:19 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Apr 29 22:30:23 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com><63705.216.204.15.170.1083266975.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com><5.1.0.14.2.20040429134208.02769c98@pop.registeredsite.com><200404291950.i3TJoGv9018042@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu><5.1.0.14.2.20040429165607.027ae7d0@pop.registeredsite.com><5.1.0.14.2.20040429171238.027ad190@pop.registeredsite.com><6.0.3.0.0.20040429213648.01bbff10@pop3.bit-net.com> <6.1.0.6.2.20040429221332.0287e0c8@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <008c01c42e5b$14f4ddb0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:17 PM Subject: Re: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing > That may be true in some of the smaller cities, but in the larger towns we > are bombarded with local news, some of which may actually be > newsworthy. We have two and a half hours of local news, followed by just a > half hour of national and world news, then an hour of entertainment news. In Portland, there is plenty of alleged local news programs with very little actual news content. The 5 and 5:30 shows are particularly bad. They are filled with features and very little news. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Apr 29 22:35:43 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Apr 29 22:35:52 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <008601c42e5a$d48002f0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000101c42e5b$d5af8cd0$59464742@Sean> Dan writes: > But the networks make decisions that effect a greater number > of viewers than any station group. > > ABC deciding what everyone is every market should watch is > fine but Sinclair deciding what people shouldn't watch in > some markets is not? I don't get it. I take no stand on the issue. I was trying to clarify what I believed Donna's point might have been, especially when she was speaking of media consolidation. Garrett questioned how her post related to the subject header, and I tried to connect the dots. In the Sinclair station, the likelihood is that there is no other station in the market that will pick up Nightline for this one night. Most viewers, even those with dishes and cable, will not be able to watch it because these companies carry just the local feed. (I could be wrong on the dish companies, maybe they have a full streaming national feed as well? I don't recall that being the case when my ex-roommates and I had Dish Network a few years back.) The choice is being made for these viewers by suits in Hunt Valley. There is one difference between owning the stations and the network programming: there are, generally, at least four networks on in a given market. All four of the major networks are operated independently, even if a given party owns say the market's ABC and FOX affiliate. If someone does not like network fare, there is always cable. From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Apr 29 22:36:39 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Apr 29 22:36:47 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <200404300223.i3U2N88J021144@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <000201c42e5b$f7699550$59464742@Sean> Garrett writes: > In the old days, it would have been GE or Storer or General > Tire who would be in the position that Sinclair is now. True. I am not romanticizing the old days (after all, there is a reason why they are "old") however it seems like the older conglomerates who were just in broadcasting on the side treated it as part public trust, part business (General Tire notwithstanding). Maybe I'm wrong on this. A part of that might have to do with how the FCC regulated back then, as well. (I'm sure the veterans here can correct me if I'm wrong.) Did Storer actually make money running Hockey Night in Boston on Channel 38? I would like to say no, but I don't know for sure. The Sinclairs of the world seem more apt to push their agendas on the viewers. I don't remember a Group W having a party-line agenda all of its stations adhered to. From kvahey@tmail.com Thu Apr 29 22:44:53 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu Apr 29 22:45:12 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <000201c42e5b$f7699550$59464742@Sean> References: <000201c42e5b$f7699550$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <1083293096.20B9BB00@s5.dngr.org> Once upon a time there was a manufacturing giant that began to dabble in broadcasting Now all that is left of that proud company is their media outlets and they even took the name of the company they bought (CBS) Westinghouse From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Apr 29 22:50:25 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Apr 29 22:50:32 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <000201c42e5b$f7699550$59464742@Sean> References: <200404300223.i3U2N88J021144@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <000201c42e5b$f7699550$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <200404300250.i3U2oPVm021298@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > The Sinclairs of the world seem more apt to push their agendas on the > viewers. I don't remember a Group W having a party-line agenda all of its > stations adhered to. I think this is in large part because they can, where a Westinghouse could not easily do so. That is to say: Sinclair, for all that it's a public company, is effectively controlled by one person. If he has an agenda, he can use his control of the company to further that agenda (to the extent that the law does not provide otherwise). A large conglomerate like Westinghouse was or GE is does not have the same sort of freedom of action: they are expected to manage their properties in relentless pursuit of shareholder value -- so any corporate agenda they have is likely to be much less personal, not to mention smoothed out to some degree by the additional layers of management and corporate structure. I don't see anyone here complaining about Paul La Camera's editorials on WCVB, which IIRC were mandated by Hearst corporate (from the pre-Argyle days). -GAWollman From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Apr 29 22:58:18 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Apr 29 22:58:25 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <200404300250.i3U2oPVm021298@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <000301c42e5e$fd438280$59464742@Sean> Garrett writes: > I don't see anyone here complaining about Paul La Camera's > editorials on WCVB, which IIRC were mandated by Hearst > corporate (from the pre-Argyle days). Are you saying Hearst/Hearst-Argyle mandated editorials, or they mandated certain viewpoints? I have seen editorials on other H-A stations (namely WGAL and WBAL) but very rarely. I could have sworn the editorials on Channel 5 far pre-dated Hearst ownership. WCVB's editorials have not, in my opinion, ever influenced programming decisions, re: pre-empting network programming for PC reasons. I could be wrong and maybe WCVB was one of the stations that declined airing NYPD Blue at the beginning but the memory's foggy. There also is the perception that Hearst-Argyle has pretty much let Channel 5 be, being the cash cow it likely is, and WCVB still is living off the whole independent licensee thing of when it came on the air. From kvahey@tmail.com Thu Apr 29 22:58:24 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu Apr 29 22:58:38 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <200404300250.i3U2oPVm021298@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200404300223.i3U2N88J021144@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <200404300250.i3U2oPVm021298@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1083293911.5A19543@w37.dngr.org> Westinghouse used their muscle in Pittsburgh where they were one of the largest employers in the city. Ft Wayne as well when they owned WOWO. On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:52pm, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> stations adhered to. > > I think this is in large part because they can, where a Westinghouse > could not easily do so. From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Apr 29 23:01:32 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:01:34 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <1083293096.20B9BB00@s5.dngr.org> References: <000201c42e5b$f7699550$59464742@Sean> <1083293096.20B9BB00@s5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <200404300301.i3U31WvY021374@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Now all that is left of that proud company is their media outlets and > they even took the name of the company they bought (CBS) > Westinghouse I think that the companies that ended up with bits and pieces of the old Westinghouse companies, from Electrolux (White-Westinghouse appliances) to American Standard (Westinghouse Air Brake Co.), would probably disagree with that assessment. Indeed, from an industrial history perspective, American Standard has more in common with Georg Wistinghausen's vision than CBWesFiniCom ever did. Sumner would probably agree (and I'd bet he considers it a good thing, too). -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Apr 29 23:03:16 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:03:18 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <1083293911.5A19543@w37.dngr.org> References: <200404300223.i3U2N88J021144@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <200404300250.i3U2oPVm021298@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <1083293911.5A19543@w37.dngr.org> Message-ID: <200404300303.i3U33G8p021393@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Westinghouse used their muscle in Pittsburgh where they were one of the > largest employers in the city. To what end? -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Thu Apr 29 23:15:29 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:15:30 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <200404300223.i3U2N88J021144@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <000001c42e59$3f0648c0$59464742@Sean> <6.0.3.0.0.20040429213648.01bbff10@pop3.bit-net.com> <000001c42e59$3f0648c0$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040429223556.03bd4678@gwind.pair.com> At 10:23 PM 4/29/2004 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: >< said: > > > In the old days, a local owner who heard from local advertisers, > > viewers, etc., every day would cave in to public pressure on > > something like this. > >In the old days, it would have been GE or Storer or General Tire who >would be in the position that Sinclair is now. But, again, in those "old days" GE or Storer or General Tire would have controlled stations in only three or four or five cities. And in those "old days" a local station's most likely reason for pre-empting a network news broadcast would have been to present a local documentary or public-affairs show or even (at least in WCVB's heyday) a locally-produced entertainment show. (And the decision to pre-empt would likely have come with a lot of local management input, too.) What will Sinclair's ABC affiliates be showing at 11:35 tomorrow night? I'm betting on "infomercial." The difference here, as those of us "fortunate" enough to get "local" "news" (man, my keyboard's getting a workout on the quote sign tonight) from Sinclair know all too well about the company, is that this is a nakedly ideological (some would even say "political," but I'm loath to get Garrett's blood pressure worked up so close to my Boston trip) move on the part of Sinclair corporate. I quote from Sinclair's own Web site (www.sbgi.net): "Despite the denials by a spokeswoman for the show, the action appears to be motivated by a political agenda designed to undermine the efforts of the United States in Iraq." That's an interesting interpretation, especially coming from a company that admittedly skewed the content of its own newscasts specifically to show "good news" from Iraq, going so far as to send Mark Hyman (who's a corporate spokesman and not a journalist by any stretch of the term) to Iraq to seek out pro-military stories. You'd think (well, I'd think, anyway) that such a company would WANT to carry a tribute to the 500-plus men and women who gave their lives for the country. But apparently Sinclair knows better than ABC itself what the "political agenda" of Ted Koppel and Nightline will be. (Here's ABC's statement: "The Nightline broadcast is an expression of respect which simply seeks to honor those who have laid down their lives for this country. ABC News is dedicated to thoughtful and balanced coverage and reports on the events shaping our world with neither fear nor favor -- as our audience expects, deserves, and rightly demands. Contrary to the statement issued by Sinclair, which takes issue with our level of coverage of the effects of terrorism on our citizens, ABC News and all of our broadcasts, including "Nightline," have reported hundreds of stories on 9-11. Indeed, on the first anniversary of 9-11, ABC News broadcast the names of the victims of that horrific attack.") Or maybe they just want to make a gesture to the administration that (Hyman and his bosses sincerely hope) will still be in office next year when the time comes to decide once and for all what becomes of the company's not-quite-legal-by-any-stretch-of-the-current-rules duopolies in markets like Dayton, Baltimore and Syracuse. And you know what? I'd have more respect for Sinclair if they were more openly ideological. If they don't believe Ted Koppel's journalism is appropriate for their audiences in Springfield and St. Louis and Charleston, W.V. and Winston-Salem and Pensacola and Columbus and Asheville where they carry ABC, then let them drop the show completely - and let another station in each market pick it up. (That's what several corporate ownership groups did with "Jimmy Kimmel Live," including the Allbritton group that controls ABC outlets in Washington DC and several Virginia markets.) Better yet, if Sinclair believes that ABC News as a whole is slanted in a way with which Sinclair corporate disagrees, let them drop ABC completely. Instead, Sinclair's actually trying to *get* ABC affiliations for the two NBC outlets it owns (in Dayton and central Illinois) where NBC is dumping the company when its current affiliation agreements run out. If I were ABC, I'd sign with just about anyone else in those markets just to stick it back to Sinclair. Look, I have absolutely NO love lost for this particular company. They gutted what was becoming a decent small news operation at the Fox affiliate in Rochester, keeping only the very lowest-paid, least experienced reporters when they flipped to News Central a couple of years ago. The only reason that operation - and most of the other News Centrals - get any viewers at all is because they have no competition in their timeslots. If the Rochester News Central product went up against the three remaining "real" newsrooms in the market at 6 or 11, it would get slaughtered, as do the News Centrals in Vegas, Milwaukee, Cincinnati and Raleigh that go up against "real" newscasts at 9 or 10 on competing Fox affiliates. WGGB barely shows in the Springfield ratings these days against WWLP, and the only reason WGME continues to do well is because it had a strong news tradition before Sinclair came in and it never became "News Centralized." From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 29 23:19:22 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:19:29 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing References: <000001c42e59$3f0648c0$59464742@Sean><6.0.3.0.0.20040429213648.01bbff10@pop3.bit-net.com><000001c42e59$3f0648c0$59464742@Sean> <5.1.0.14.0.20040429223556.03bd4678@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <00ae01c42e61$eed07200$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Garrett Wollman" ; "Sean Smyth" Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:15 PM Subject: RE: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing >And in those "old > days" a local station's most likely reason for pre-empting a network news > broadcast would have been to present a local documentary or public-affairs > show or even (at least in WCVB's heyday) a locally-produced entertainment > show. (And the decision to pre-empt would likely have come with a lot of > local management input, too.) Those days were gone long before consolidation of ownership. From scott@fybush.com Thu Apr 29 23:43:42 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:43:41 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <000101c42e5b$d5af8cd0$59464742@Sean> References: <008601c42e5a$d48002f0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040429233805.03b6de48@gwind.pair.com> >In the Sinclair station, the likelihood is that there is no other station in >the market that will pick up Nightline for this one night. Most viewers, >even those with dishes and cable, will not be able to watch it because these >companies carry just the local feed. (I could be wrong on the dish >companies, maybe they have a full streaming national feed as well? I don't >recall that being the case when my ex-roommates and I had Dish Network a few >years back.) The choice is being made for these viewers by suits in Hunt >Valley. Network affiliations are still market-exclusive - if I'm Sinclair and I contract with ABC to be the ABC affiliate for Pensacola/Mobile, for example, my contract gives me exclusivity that includes satellite and cable delivery. Dish and DirecTV can only provide their "national networks" package (which gives ABC/CBS/NBC/Fox service from New York or LA, depending on time zone) to customers who are - or pretend to be - in "white areas" that can't receive a network's affiliate over the air adequately. So there's no "magic second ABC" option for dish customers in Sinclair markets, either. Some cable companies do carry out-of-market network affiliates because they're grandfathered; if, for instance, my cable company in Rochester hadn't dropped ABC/CBS/NBC from Buffalo and NBC from Syracuse back in the mid-80s (they were basically there to fill out the 30-channel lineup back in the days when there were about eight satellite networks available, plus the NYC superstations; heck, we even got WSBK for a few years here), they'd still be allowed - required, IIRC - to carry them. s From scott@fybush.com Thu Apr 29 23:51:38 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:51:59 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040429223556.03bd4678@gwind.pair.com> References: <200404300223.i3U2N88J021144@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <000001c42e59$3f0648c0$59464742@Sean> <6.0.3.0.0.20040429213648.01bbff10@pop3.bit-net.com> <000001c42e59$3f0648c0$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040429234947.03be9750@gwind.pair.com> A few minutes ago, I typed... >What will Sinclair's ABC affiliates be showing at 11:35 tomorrow night? >I'm betting on "infomercial." I've since read that Sinclair will be producing its own special about the topic that will be airing in place of Nightline on the affected stations. If anyone can tape WGGB, I'd actually like to see that. My apologies for (that one specific bit of unjustified) venom against Sinclair. s From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Apr 30 00:36:21 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Apr 30 00:36:24 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040429223556.03bd4678@gwind.pair.com> References: <000001c42e59$3f0648c0$59464742@Sean> <6.0.3.0.0.20040429213648.01bbff10@pop3.bit-net.com> <200404300223.i3U2N88J021144@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20040429223556.03bd4678@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <200404300436.i3U4aLNb021833@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > The difference here, as those of us "fortunate" enough to get "local" > "news" (man, my keyboard's getting a workout on the quote sign tonight) > from Sinclair know all too well about the company, is that this is a > nakedly ideological (some would even say "political," but I'm loath to get > Garrett's blood pressure worked up so close to my Boston trip) move on the > part of Sinclair corporate. Far be it from me to actually *defend* Sinclair, a loathsome[1] operator if ever there were one. However, I object to the appointment of Sinclair as the poster child for ``media consolidation''; GE, Viacom, Clear Channel, and even Univision are all much more appropriate exemplars of that trend. Thankfully, none of these companies are remotely at the level of Sinclair. -GAWollman [1] Do I have to pay royalties to Brudnoy for the use of that adjective? From scott@fybush.com Fri Apr 30 01:01:40 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Apr 30 01:01:40 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <200404300436.i3U4aLNb021833@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040429223556.03bd4678@gwind.pair.com> <000001c42e59$3f0648c0$59464742@Sean> <6.0.3.0.0.20040429213648.01bbff10@pop3.bit-net.com> <200404300223.i3U2N88J021144@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20040429223556.03bd4678@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040430004656.03b946e0@gwind.pair.com> >Far be it from me to actually *defend* Sinclair, a loathsome[1] >operator if ever there were one. However, I object to the appointment >of Sinclair as the poster child for ``media consolidation''; GE, >Viacom, Clear Channel, and even Univision are all much more >appropriate exemplars of that trend. Thankfully, none of these >companies are remotely at the level of Sinclair. With a measly 62 TV stations under its ownership or "control" (I wouldn't put that in quotes, but there are a fair number of stations that Sinclair "controls" de facto that it can't control de jure thanks to those pesky multiple-ownership regs), Garrett's quite correct that Sinclair has hardly fed at the consolidation trough to the extent that the other companies he cites have done. (In particular, Sinclair has made no effort to spread itself into other media arenas, as Clear Channel has done in concert promotions and outdoor advertising. IMO, if Clear Channel's expansion is ever stopped in the courts, it will be for the antitrust issues between its concert promotions and its broadcasting arm, not for the sheer size of its radio and TV empire. I digress.) But Sinclair is nevertheless notable for two reasons: first, it was doing de facto TV duopolies very early on in the game. Remember Glencairn, the company owned by David Smith's mother - with a helpful minority ownership interest, in both senses of the term, by Eddie Edwards - which just happened to buy TV stations in cities where Sinclair already owned (Baltimore, Pittsburgh) and just happened to lease out most/all of its stations' functions to Sinclair? Several of those arrangements are still in place on waivers and are STILL not 100% legal. A few of them wouldn't be legal even under the best possible version of the still-hung-up-in-the-courts multiple-ownership rules, and will ultimately require action from the FCC or Congress for Sinclair to retain them. It's a fair bet that a Kerry FCC wouldn't hesitate to make Sinclair divest those interests, and it's by no means certain that a Bush FCC would let them slide, either, though Sinclair is certainly juicing the appropriate palms in an attempt to get its way. The conflict of interest for Mark Hyman, as both spokesman for Sinclair and chief editorialist, is apparent and egregious. And that brings me to the second reason why Sinclair stands out - to me at least - from Viacom, Clear Channel, Univision et al. As Garrett ably pointed out, those larger companies have greater stockholder pressure to balance out any intrinsic urges their management might have to use their size for political purposes. Even Clear Channel, for all its corporate donations to the GOP and its flag-waving, rally-holding talk hosts, carries Air America on one of its Portland, Oregon stations (and a decent signal at that.) I can't imagine Sinclair, if Sinclair still owned radio, ever doing that. s From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Apr 30 01:49:40 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Apr 30 01:50:28 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <1083293096.20B9BB00@s5.dngr.org> References: <000201c42e5b$f7699550$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <4091B0B4.6002.8E91D3@localhost> On 29 Apr 2004 at 22:44, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Now all that is left of that proud company is their media outlets and they > even took the name of the company they bought (CBS) Whatever became of their manufacturing arm? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Apr 30 01:49:40 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Apr 30 01:51:00 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <200404300250.i3U2oPVm021298@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <000201c42e5b$f7699550$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <4091B0B4.5108.8E9350@localhost> On 29 Apr 2004 at 22:50, Garrett Wollman wrote: > I think this is in large part because they can, where a Westinghouse > could not easily do so. That is to say: Sinclair, for all that it's a > public company, is effectively controlled by one person. If he has an > agenda, he can use his control of the company to further that agenda (to > the extent that the law does not provide otherwise). A large conglomerate > like Westinghouse was or GE is does not have the same sort of freedom of > action: they are expected to manage their properties in relentless pursuit > of shareholder value -- so any corporate agenda they have is likely to be > much less personal, not to mention smoothed out to some degree by the > additional layers of management and corporate structure. OK, so how about CBS under William Paley? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Fri Apr 30 02:09:55 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Apr 30 02:09:57 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <4091B0B4.5108.8E9350@localhost> References: <200404300250.i3U2oPVm021298@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <000201c42e5b$f7699550$59464742@Sean> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040430020204.03bd5ea0@gwind.pair.com> At 01:49 AM 4/30/2004 -0400, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >On 29 Apr 2004 at 22:50, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > A large conglomerate > > like Westinghouse was or GE is does not have the same sort of freedom of > > action: they are expected to manage their properties in relentless pursuit > > of shareholder value -- so any corporate agenda they have is likely to be > > much less personal, not to mention smoothed out to some degree by the > > additional layers of management and corporate structure. > >OK, so how about CBS under William Paley? Paley had that level of control, yes - but he also had the committment to public service (and the pressure from Frank Stanton) that led him to keep his hands off the news operation. Say what you will about CBS News in the Paley era; it maintained a tremendously impressive degree of editorial independence from the corporate ownership. (The record will also show that by so doing, and by providing CBS News with a prodigiously healthy level of funding, Paley and Stanton could take credit for one of the most respected bastions of quality journalism in the history of the electronic media. CBS News in that era also drew ratings and - ultimately, with the coming of 60 Minutes - profits that Sinclair can only dream of.) In any event, one suspects that a heavy corporate hand on the editorial tiller would, in that era, have caused problems for the network's O&Os at license renewal time. Certainly the two stations in Jackson, Mississippi that regularly pre-empted network newscasts during the struggle for civil rights paid the price in the end - both ultimately lost their licenses for that and other reasons. And wasn't that (corporate ownership's influence on the news product) one concern that quashed ITT's bid to buy ABC in the late sixties? s From kvahey@tmail.com Fri Apr 30 06:19:40 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri Apr 30 06:20:04 2004 Subject: Sinclair may have goofed Message-ID: <1083320383.713DAC1@s5.dngr.org> Judging from an early morning look at the web, Sinclair's not airing Nightline maybe backfiring. People are screaming on a Red Sox message board about it. Nightline may have been ignored if this had not happened, now most will know about it. And if I was a family member of a soldier killed in one of those markets, I would be very angry. I suspect the White House may make some phone calls today to reverse this. They have enough problems, they don't need this. From fox893@yahoo.com Fri Apr 30 08:51:02 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Fri Apr 30 08:51:11 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing In-Reply-To: <14655.66.36.29.157.1083277056.squirrel@webmail3.pair.com> Message-ID: <20040430125102.49111.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> > > And of course there's White River Junction and > Presque Isle... > WAGM(we ain't got much), Presque Isle... Given their market they do an alright job covering local news. Seems to make a good stop for new talent... Though some of the people they hire are completely devoid of talent. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From madprof@ix.netcom.com Fri Apr 30 10:33:12 2004 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Fri Apr 30 10:32:33 2004 Subject: WSHM-LP Springfield Message-ID: <001e01c42ec0$124ab160$779ee541@p133> forwarded to me from a friend in Brimfield MA, where Charter cable, as of June 1, will drop WBZ-TV (WFSB 3 Hartford previously cut) & leave WHSM-LP as the only CBS outlet on cable......friend very displeased. Yes, when Meredith bougth the translator on Mt Tom, this was expected I guess. From The Springfield Republican Business News Station prepares for debut Tuesday, December 09, 2003 By WILLIAM FREEBAIRN Staff writer wfreebairn@repub.com Springfield's new low-power television station will launch its original programming on cable next month with two five-minute local weather forecasts daily. CBS-TV3, a Springfield-based channel owned by Meredith Corp., will be carried on local cable systems starting Jan. 1. The station is already broadcasting over the air to the Springfield and Holyoke areas on channel 67, technically known as WSHM-LP. The station will not feature a local newscast, instead dropping in two five-minute local weather forecasts produced by a commercial weather service. The weather forecasts will run at 6 and 11 p.m. The lineup will include a mix of CBS's daytime and prime-time lineup and syndicated shows. The station will carry the syndicated "700 Club," "The Price is Right," "Hollywood Squares" during the morning, "Oprah" and "Judge Joe Brown" in the afternoon, with "Inside Edition" and "Entertainment Tonight" in the evening. Afternoons will feature "The Young & the Restless," "The Bold & the Beautiful," "As the World Turns" and "Guiding Light." General Manager Elden Hale also serves as general manager of WFSB-TV, Channel 3, in Hartford, which is also owned by Meredith. CBS-TV3 is operating from offices in Hartford now, but will soon set up a sales office in the Springfield area. Station officials have said production facilities in the area could be built at a later date. From weather@weathersource.net Thu Apr 29 23:38:05 2004 From: weather@weathersource.net (Matt Higgs) Date: Fri Apr 30 13:46:55 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing Message-ID: Just a note in relation to this, WAGM in Presque Isle routeinly bumps the CBS Evening News on weekends to air their own local programming. Its happened more than a few times this year already. They usually air their weekend news on Saturday at 6, then rather than hold off until 7 to air local shows, they air them at 6:30 instead. Matt Higgs > >And in those "old > > days" a local station's most likely reason for pre-empting a network news > > broadcast would have been to present a local documentary or public- affairs > > show or even (at least in WCVB's heyday) a locally-produced entertainment > > show. (And the decision to pre-empt would likely have come with a lot of > > local management input, too.) > > Those days were gone long before consolidation of ownership. > > > > -- From francini@mac.com Fri Apr 30 08:22:33 2004 From: francini@mac.com (John J. Francini) Date: Fri Apr 30 13:47:01 2004 Subject: Housing To Be Built On WSMN-Owned Land In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040429215710.01b097a8@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <002401c42e29$fc029120$64f88018@markscomputer> <6.0.3.0.0.20040429215710.01b097a8@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: Well, as someone who lives a couple of miles from WSMN's towers and studios, I guess I have mixed feelings about this. I welcomed their format shift to "The Tiger" two years ago, because it meant a local signal for Red Sox broadcasts. WEEI's signal turns to hash after dusk around here, and WGIR 610 Manchester is no better. (WEEI needs to buy a 50KW FM blowtorch in this area, just as they did in RI, but that's a rant for another day.) In any event, WSMN carried the games, so I listened to them. Nothing else that they had - especially the stock-picking business talk during the day - was interesting to me. This year, even though their web site claims they're still in the Red Sox network (as does the Red Sox site), they haven't carried a single game. Without carrying something useful, I consider WSMN to be merely a source of front-end overload that I have to drive past two or more times a day. Interestingly, I noticed a couple of days ago that WSMN's aging, faded sign by the road on West Hollis St had been knocked over. Couldn't tell if it was from the wind or from a car. John At 22:05 -0400 4/29/04, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Mark Watson wrote: >> Today's Nashua Telegraph reports that the Nashua Zoning Board of >>Adjustment has approved a plan to a 40 unit single family housing >>development to be built on land located at 502 West Hollis St., land that is >>owned by the 1590 Broadcasting Corporation, who own WSMN (1590 Nashua) and >>upon said land the station's studios and transmitter site are located. The >>article doesn't mention anything about how this will affect the operation of >>the station. One would have to guess that if the station isn't moving it's >>transmitter site, then these folks who buy these new houses will have a 3 >>tower directional array to look at. Or is this the end of WSMN? There really >>isn't much land left in the area to build a new 3 tower directional. > > >I can't imagine that a 40-unit single family housing development >will leave much space for a 3 tower DA unless there's a lot more >land to this parcel than immediately meets the eye. The impression >I got from a group of people who were brokering time on WSMN was >that the tower site was coming down and a new one was needed. They >seemed pretty naive about the whole thing and seemed to think that >diplexing off WKBR's site (in Goffstown...outside of WSMN's current >lobe) was an option. Given that WSMN has never made any money for >anyone my guess is that 1590 will soon be a thing of the past. Even >if they DID have the resources to find & construct a new site, the >gov't red tape and NIMBYs would tie the process up for years. -- ---- John Francini +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; | | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress.| | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" | | -- John Adams | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Apr 30 18:53:02 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri Apr 30 18:53:10 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040429223556.03bd4678@gwind.pair.com><000001c42e59$3f0648c0$59464742@Sean><6.0.3.0.0.20040429213648.01bbff10@pop3.bit-net.com><200404300223.i3U2N88J021144@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu><5.1.0.14.0.20040429223556.03bd4678@gwind.pair.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20040430004656.03b946e0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <001f01c42f05$e4d7b3e0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Garrett Wollman" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:01 AM Subject: RE: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing > And that brings me to the second reason why Sinclair stands out - to me at > least - from Viacom, Clear Channel, Univision et al. As Garrett ably > pointed out, those larger companies have greater stockholder pressure to > balance out any intrinsic urges their management might have to use their > size for political purposes. So are you saying that a TV company having an editorial point of view is wrong? The NY Times certainly has a point of view and uses its editorial pages to advance a political viewpoint. Why is that OK and Sinclair and Hyman is not? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Apr 30 18:59:16 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri Apr 30 18:59:22 2004 Subject: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing References: <200404300250.i3U2oPVm021298@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu><000201c42e5b$f7699550$59464742@Sean> <5.1.0.14.0.20040430020204.03bd5ea0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <002a01c42f06$c38f1560$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Garrett Wollman" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 2:09 AM Subject: RE: why media consolidation is NOT a good thing > In any event, one suspects that a heavy corporate hand on the editorial > tiller would, in that era, have caused problems for the network's O&Os at > license renewal time. Certainly the two stations in Jackson, Mississippi > that regularly pre-empted network newscasts during the struggle for civil > rights paid the price in the end - both ultimately lost their licenses for > that and other reasons. And wasn't that (corporate ownership's influence on > the news product) one concern that quashed ITT's bid to buy ABC in the late > sixties? You have suggested in earlier posts that you object to station owners playing to those in power, but in the post above, you seem to be endorsing a station losing its license for doing something that does not fit with the political views of those in power. You also seem to be suggesting that when a station signs up with a network, they give up any editorial control. Why should that be? Officials at ABC decide what should and shouldn't be run. Didn't ABC veto a Toby Keith performance on a July 4th special? If ABC can veto something for content, why is it wrong for the station owner to do the same thing? It seems like your position is it is wrong when you don't agree with the editorial decision. If I had to picked between the networks, the government, or the station owners as the final decisionmakers on what's run, I would go with the station owners. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Apr 30 19:05:29 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Apr 30 19:04:18 2004 Subject: Opinion Piece On Air America Stirs Nasty Responses Message-ID: <200404301905.AA1883570280@mail.ttlc.net> Corey Deitz (About.Com Radio Guide) did an opinion piece on Air America, their current difficulties and his perception of what it might take for them to succeed (Against All Odds). I thought his criticisms were reasonably fair and from an industry-insider's vantage point. His main thrust was "First, It's Gotta Be Entertaining," but, it seems many readers were incensed at his assessment and took it as a political attack. Corey characterized the responses as "amusing, contradictory and downright hateful" Editorial here: http://radio.about.com/cs/latestradionews/a/aa042304a.htm Reader responses (and Corey's replies) here: http://radio.about.com/cs/latestradionews/a/aa042404a.htm From paul@03038.com Fri Apr 30 20:18:33 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri Apr 30 20:15:17 2004 Subject: Opinion Piece On Air America Stirs Nasty Responses In-Reply-To: <200404301905.AA1883570280@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <002901c42f11$f1620960$0e87fea9@q0002> Because Liberals have no sense of humor! (By and large) The Nat Gaurd Gen in MA that forwarded what was a genuinely funny e-mail, and the Dems take a nutty! Geesh! -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of rogerkirk Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:05 PM To: BRI Subject: Opinion Piece On Air America Stirs Nasty Responses Corey Deitz (About.Com Radio Guide) did an opinion piece on Air America, their current difficulties and his perception of what it might take for them to succeed (Against All Odds). I thought his criticisms were reasonably fair and from an industry-insider's vantage point. His main thrust was "First, It's Gotta Be Entertaining," but, it seems many readers were incensed at his assessment and took it as a political attack. Corey characterized the responses as "amusing, contradictory and downright hateful" Editorial here: http://radio.about.com/cs/latestradionews/a/aa042304a.htm Reader responses (and Corey's replies) here: http://radio.about.com/cs/latestradionews/a/aa042404a.htm