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- Subject: Cities & Markets
- From: n1lzc@juno.com (Mark Casey)
- Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 19:48:34 EST
Here's the scoop on NE cities:
City 1990 Pop. 1990 Metro Pop. Arbitron
rank '95
1. Boston 574,283 3,236,600 1. 10
2. Worcester 169,759 367,200 6. 106
3.Providence 160,728 1,263,700 2. 31
4. Springfield 156,983 495,600 4. 76
5. Bridgeport 141,686 361,900 7. 111
6. Hartford 139,739 962,700 3.
41
7. New Haven 130,474 389,300 5. 95
Lowell-Lawrence , New Bedford-Fall River, Portsmouth-Dover, and
Stamford-Norwalk all have significant metro pop's also
Happy Easter listening!
Mark Casey,
Hampden, Mass map@map.com
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From lawyer@world.std.com Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 00:05:48 -0500 (EST)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: WCME
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997 Jibguy@aol.com wrote:
> WXGL was sold for $97k with no real estate. Seemed like a high price to me
> for a Class A FM. Now, for WCME-FM Boothbay Harbor.... the real estate is
> the Route 1 site near Wiscasset, NOT the "lighthouse" in Freeport on I-95.
How can a station be sold without real estate?
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A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617/367-0468
15 Court Square lawyer@world.std.com
Boston, MA 02108-2573 http://world.std.com/~lawyer/
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From lawyer@world.std.com Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 00:08:49 -0500 (EST)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: WORC for Sale
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997 Jibguy@aol.com wrote:
> Worcester is "New England's Second-Largest City"?????? No way. What
> about Providence, Hartford, Springfield, New Haven. MAYBE it's
> Massachusetts second-largest. Don't have stats right here ,but I think
> Springfield is bigger, too.
I don't know stats on Providence, Hartford, or New Haven, but Worcester is
definitely the second largest city in Massachusetts. It's larger than
Springfield. I've heard it said that Worcester is the second largest in
New England, but I'm not certain of the truth of that.
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A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617/367-0468
15 Court Square lawyer@world.std.com
Boston, MA 02108-2573 http://world.std.com/~lawyer/
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From lawyer@world.std.com Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 00:11:15 -0500 (EST)
From: "'A. Joseph Ross'" <lawyer@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: Station Ownership Reality
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997 Jibguy@aol.com wrote:
> BTW, starting April 7th, TORY GATES will be doing news and some public
> affairs things during morning hours at WJIB-740. Looks like it'll now be a
> 2-man operation.
Interesting. Is leased time really bringing in that much revenue?
> BTW, L.T.A.R. is now (as of 3/30/97) heard on WJTO-730 at 12:06 PM, after
> CNN News, every Sunday.
Is it still being heard on WKBR?
BTW, did I hear you say on today's LTAR that you're carrying Ollie North's
show on WJTO?
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A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617/367-0468
15 Court Square lawyer@world.std.com
Boston, MA 02108-2573 http://world.std.com/~lawyer/
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From mariogon@tiac.net Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 00:20:18 -0500
From: "Mario Gonzalez Jr." <mariogon@tiac.net>
Subject: WEZE and PPZE
I've noticed this for awhile, but I haven't had a chance to write, but on
the weekends, WEZE and WPZE broadcast the same signal. I have not heard
them mention that this will be changed.
Mario
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From Dib9@aol.com Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 00:54:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Dib9@aol.com
Subject: Ollie North
A. Joseph Ross wrote "BTW, did I hear you say on today's LTAR that you're
carrying Ollie North's show on WJTO?"
Ollie North's show was on WJTO before Bob Bitner bought the station and it
continues to run on the station in afternoon drive. (3pm to 6pm)
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From dougb@albany.net Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 01:47:43 -0500
From: "Douglas J. Broda" <dougb@albany.net>
Subject: Re: WVNJ, Oakland NJ
At 12:15 AM 3/31/97 +0000, Dan Strassberg wrote:
>I just returned from a quick trip to New York and have this to report:
>
>This suburban New York City station is on 1160 and has just doubled its day
>power. WVNJ is now 20 kW-D/2.5 kW-N DA-2. The TX is in Oakland, not far from
>the New York Line (south of Rockland County). Studios are in Teaneck.
This isn't the original holder of the WVNJ heritage calls. (I thought to
look this up because I remember WVNJ from growing up in the 60s in
Brooklyn, and it sure didn't match this pattern or dial slot.) The original
WVNJ was at 620 -- it became WSKQ in the 80s, I believe.
This format, I think, could still find a niche in the NYC area -- but,
sadly, most potential listeners aren't where this signal is strongest.
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From Dib9@aol.com Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 02:32:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Dib9@aol.com
Subject: WCME
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997 Jibguy@aol.com wrote:
> WXGL was sold for $97k with no real estate. Seemed like a high price to me
> for a Class A FM. Now, for WCME-FM Boothbay Harbor.... the real estate is
> the Route 1 site near Wiscasset, NOT the "lighthouse" in Freeport on I-95.
A. Joseph Ross, J.D. wrote: "How can a station be sold without real estate?"
WXGL leases tower space in Brunswick, Maine. The station has never owned
it's tower, which is not that unusual. I believe WXGL is on a tower with a
two-way radio repeater and maybe a cellular phone cell. The station was
operating from a building Bob Cole owns in Freeport. I assume the new owners
will lease space from him, or more likely move the studios to a new location.
As for Cole's other station WCME, which is currently dark and for sale. Cole
owns the tower and transmitter site on US Route 1 in Newcastle. I assume
that if the new owner does not buy the real estate, they would sign a long
term lease on the property. It would seem impractical to move the tower. It
was only put up about seven years ago after the station moved from it's
original transmitter/studio location on Westport Island.
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From ehenness@natick-amed02.army.mil Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 97 7:32:45 -0500
From: ehenness@natick-amed02.army.mil
Subject: Re: WORC for Sale
Jibguy said:
>Worcester is "New England's Second-Largest City"?????? No way. What
>about Providence, Hartford, Springfield, New Haven. MAYBE it's
>Massachusetts second-largest. Don't have stats right here ,but I think
>Springfield is bigger, too.
Well, Bridgeport is bigger than either New Haven or Hartford, but I can't
recall if it's bigger than Providence or Worcester.
From the '95 Information Please almanac, 1990 Census (cities only, not
metro area):
Bridgeport 141686
New Haven 130474
Hartford 139739
Springfield 156983
Worcester 169759
Providence 160728
Ed Hennessy
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From dan.strassberg@worldnet.att.net Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 13:12:26 +0000
From: Dan Strassberg <dan.strassberg@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: WCME
At 05:05 AM 3/31/97 +0000, you wrote:
>
>How can a station be sold without real estate?
>
Obviously, there is no need to transfer the studio or office facilities, as
you can set up a radio studio or a radio station office most anywhere that
you can get ac power and phone lines. If you can get a truck to the site to
deliver fuel oil or propane gas, you don't even need ac power. And with
microwave and satellite communication you don't really need phone lines either.
The transmitter is a bigger problem. For directional AMs in particular,
there is often no suitable site other than the one the station occupies. If
the seller won't convey the real estate, the buyer leases it, often at rates
so high they preclude any possibility of the station ever making money.
Selling the station and leasing the TX site is a way for an owner of an
unprofitable station to turn it into a money maker. The buyer must pay the
rent. If he doesn't, the seller gets the station back and is in a position
to snare another sucker.
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Dan Strassberg (Note: Address is CASE SENSITIVE!)
ALL _LOWER_ CASE!!!--> dan.strassberg@worldnet.att.net
(617) 558-4205; Fax (617) 928-4205
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From dan.strassberg@worldnet.att.net Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 13:12:28 +0000
From: Dan Strassberg <dan.strassberg@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: WVNJ, Oakland NJ
At 06:47 AM 3/31/97 +0000, you wrote:
>
>This isn't the original holder of the WVNJ heritage calls. (I thought to
>look this up because I remember WVNJ from growing up in the 60s in
>Brooklyn, and it sure didn't match this pattern or dial slot.) The original
>WVNJ was at 620 -- it became WSKQ in the 80s, I believe.
>
I too, grew up listening to the original WVNJ and all those incessent PI ads
for TVs and vacuum cleaners. (In New York, call COrtland 7-1212; that's CO
COrtland 7-1212; in New Jersey, call MI--Mitchell 3-8888.) _That_ WVNJ is
now WXLX. Allegedly it has been sold along with two other Spanish
Broadcasting AMs (in Miami Springs FL and Los Angeles) to One-On-One Sports
Network. WXLX holds a CP to move to Rutherford with 3 kW-D and 7.6 kW-N. The
new TX will be much closer to New York than the current location in
Springfield, so the daytime signal may not suffer in the city despite the
lower day power. I assume the lower power permits a relaxed pattern, while
still protecting WIP in Philly on 610.
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Dan Strassberg (Note: Address is CASE SENSITIVE!)
ALL _LOWER_ CASE!!!--> dan.strassberg@worldnet.att.net
(617) 558-4205; Fax (617) 928-4205
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From dougb@albany.net Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:22:44 -0500
From: "Douglas J. Broda" <dougb@albany.net>
Subject: Re: WVNJ, Oakland NJ
At 01:12 PM 3/31/97 +0000, Dan Strassberg wrote:
>I too, grew up listening to the original WVNJ and all those incessent PI ads
>for TVs and vacuum cleaners. (In New York, call COrtland 7-1212; that's CO
>COrtland 7-1212; in New Jersey, call MI--Mitchell 3-8888.)
Amazing what we remember, no? <smile>
>_That_ WVNJ is
>now WXLX. Allegedly it has been sold along with two other Spanish
>Broadcasting AMs (in Miami Springs FL and Los Angeles) to One-On-One Sports
>Network. WXLX holds a CP to move to Rutherford with 3 kW-D and 7.6 kW-N. The
>new TX will be much closer to New York than the current location in
>Springfield, so the daytime signal may not suffer in the city despite the
>lower day power. I assume the lower power permits a relaxed pattern, while
>still protecting WIP in Philly on 610.
>
WXLX, right -- I had forgotten the calls it changed to after WSKQ.
That's a weird proposed pattern, though -- higher power at night? Must be a
more directional night pattern, though it would have to be very directional
to protect WIP. In fact, I'd be surprised if WIP didn't yap about it.
(And I can't imagine One-0n-One pulling any numbers at all in NYC with
booming WFAN 4 ticks away on the dial. Of course, they won't actually have
much in the way of salaries, I suspect.)
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From bossmsx@hotmail.com Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 15:54:23 -0800 (PST)
From: " Tony Simon" <bossmsx@hotmail.com>
Subject: One-on-one Sports
>(And I can't imagine One-0n-One pulling any numbers at all in NYC with
>booming WFAN 4 ticks away on the dial. Of course, they won't actually have
>much in the way of salaries, I suspect.)
My feeling is that the NY, LA and Miami stations that are slated to be sold to
One-on-One will just be regurgitations of the satellite feed, with little or no
local elements.
SBS chairman Raul Alarcon was on the air at the Miami station (WCMQ), saying
that WCMQ was not for sale, that only NYC and LA were. But we all know too
well what happens when owners say one thing, and do another...Can you say Peter
Ottmar??
- --Tony Simon
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From wollman Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:39:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Garrett Wollman <wollman>
Subject: The firsts in broadcasting...
I recently added to the Archives a new Donna Halper essay about John
Shepard's involvement in early FM in New England. I took the liberty
of subtitling this ``America's first FM network'', which I believe to
be true. But it got me to thinking about some of the other firsts,
some of which we know ad some of which we don't...
Of the ones we know (these are all US-only):
KQW, San Jose -- first station to keep a regular broadcast schedule.
KDKA, Pittsburgh -- first station to receive a commercial license.
(Curiously enough, this license had yet to be issued when KDKA
made its famous first broadcast. WWJ also broadcast the
election returns that night, but was also operating under an
experimental license. 1XE, later to become WGI, had been
operating for about a year, and Marconi's XWA in Montreal even
longer.)
WBZ, Springfield -- first station to receive a *broadcast* license.
WGI, Medford Hillside -- first station in Greater Boston
The ones we don't:
- - WHA, Madison has some claim at being the first, but of what?
- - Armstrong's W2XMN, Alpine, was presumably the first licensed FM
station, but which was the first non-experimental-licensed FM? What
is the oldest still extant?
- - Which station was the first to do VHF-AM, and when did they finally
give it up?
- - What is the oldest extant TV license?
- - What is the oldest FM station in the non-commercial band? TV
non-comm?
- - When did WWJ receive its commercial license?
- -GAWollman
- --
Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same
wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom
Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame
MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick
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From wollman Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:46:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Garrett Wollman <wollman>
Subject: Test message
This is just a test message to see if the digestification I set up
works now...
- -GAWollman
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From wollman Tue Sep 21 15:53:50 1999
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:49:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Garrett Wollman <wollman>
Subject: test
Another test....
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