From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Thu Sep 1 13:37:09 2011
From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 10:37:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Storm-aftermath quintcast
Message-ID: <1314898629.36443.YahooMailClassic@web112120.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
???? I don't collect recordings of legal ID's . . . but I was wishing I had a recorder with me in the car Monday night at 7. Five of the Cox stations along the coast of southwestern Connecticut, in New Haven and Fairfield counties, all were carrying the same storm info. and let's-take-phone-calls programming from WPLR-FM in New Haven. It also was on WEZN-FM, Bridgeport; WFOX-FM, Norwalk; WNLK (AM), Norwalk; and WSTC (AM), Stamford.??????? I can testify that the broadcast helped my life, :)), as I'm now and forevermore carrying a digital recorder in the car with me.???? However, at least at that top-hour (the only one I heard), collectors would not have captured a legal ID.The host mentioned quite often the various stations, but no legal ID around 7. Even for WPLR, there was nothing close to one. WFOX was just "The?Fox, 95-9," etc.??
From ecps92@earthlink.net Thu Sep 1 18:28:39 2011
From: ecps92@earthlink.net (~Bill)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:28:39 -0400
Subject: WUMB is back
Message-ID: <012a01cc68f6$7f7f3b70$7e7db250$@net>
Power to the hill was just restored in the past hour
Bill Dunn N1KUG
Cruise Ship Frequencies
http://scanmaritime.com/
From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Sep 2 12:27:17 2011
From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:27:17 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: WUMB is back
Message-ID: <18592367.1314980837866.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:28:39 -0400
>From: "~Bill"
>To: "'Boston Radio'"
>Subject: WUMB is back
>
>Power to the hill was just restored in the past hour
Yes, I'm now receiving them in full HD in Somerville.
EP
From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Sep 2 13:46:56 2011
From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:46:56 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: WUMB is back
Message-ID: <3854323.1314985616228.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>From: Larry Weil
>Sent: Sep 2, 2011 1:28 PM
>To: Eli Polonsky
>Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
>Subject: Re: WUMB is back
>
>On Sep 2, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote:
>>
>>Yes, I'm now receiving them in full HD in Somerville.
>>
>
>I?ve never been able to receive them in HD here in
>North Salem, NH. I believe this is due to adjacent-
>channel signals.
Only ten miles away from their Quincy transmitter
on the side of a south-facing hill in Somerville,
it requires certain positioning of my "rabbit ear"
TV antenna on my HD home tuner to lock WUMB in to
HD, and there are very few spots where my Insignia
personal portable will get them in HD in this area.
I'd be surprised that you would get a clean analog
signal from their Quincy transmitter up there, let
alone HD. It's only 660 watts ERP, the HD would be
a very small fraction of that. Are you listening to
91.9 from Quincy, or to their 91.7 repeater WNEF
from Newburyport (Amesbury)?
EP
From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Sep 2 13:28:00 2011
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 13:28:00 -0400
Subject: WUMB is back
In-Reply-To: <18592367.1314980837866.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <18592367.1314980837866.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <74A24EDE-248D-46F9-8113-2445C7A5BABA@mac.com>
On Sep 2, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote:
>> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:28:39 -0400
>> From: "~Bill"
>> To: "'Boston Radio'"
>> Subject: WUMB is back
>>
>> Power to the hill was just restored in the past hour
>
> Yes, I'm now receiving them in full HD in Somerville.
>
I?ve never been able to receive them in HD here in North Salem, NH. I believe this is due to adjacent-channel signals.
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH
From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Sep 2 13:52:38 2011
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 13:52:38 -0400
Subject: WUMB is back
In-Reply-To: <3854323.1314985616228.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <3854323.1314985616228.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <98AA8191-1524-4A8A-AE58-F08E5972CA66@mac.com>
On Sep 2, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote:
>> From: Larry Weil
>> Sent: Sep 2, 2011 1:28 PM
>> To: Eli Polonsky
>> Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
>> Subject: Re: WUMB is back
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Eli Polonsky wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, I'm now receiving them in full HD in Somerville.
>>>
>>
>> I?ve never been able to receive them in HD here in
>> North Salem, NH. I believe this is due to adjacent-
>> channel signals.
>
> Are you listening to
> 91.9 from Quincy, or to their 91.7 repeater WNEF
> from Newburyport (Amesbury)?
I usually listen to 91.9, but I can also get them on 91.7, though splash from WUML 91.5 is sometimes a problem. I am using a Sangean HDT-1 (not 1X), and a nine element FM antenna on a rotator at approx. 30 feet above ground, and ground is approx. 170 feet above sea level.
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH
From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Sep 3 03:31:52 2011
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 03:31:52 -0400
Subject: Globe: WDEV a big help for Vermonters during Irene
Message-ID: <20110903073152.118970@gmx.com>
Thank goodness they had that generator...
I would think Vt. Public Radio also helped out to spread the word and keep the sense of community. Radio
actually helping the local community, wow. (So did I, for WMWM on Sunday as we did storm updates and
the likes of Bill Newell called in with updates)
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/blogs/the_angle/2011/08/vermonts_unsung.html
From scott@fybush.com Wed Sep 7 19:16:24 2011
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 19:16:24 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
Message-ID: <55bf3a0e-a77a-46df-b7ac-5f0a7b6c0784@email.android.com>
And we're off...Mike is gone, WEEI is up against WBZ on FM, 105.5 in Spfld becomes WWEI and 103.7 in RI to WVEI-FM.
Discuss... :)
From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Sep 7 19:44:09 2011
From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper)
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 19:44:09 -0400
Subject: WEEI can't blame the Bruins for July
In-Reply-To: <25227755.61793.1313274842899.JavaMail.root@sz0146a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <25227755.61793.1313274842899.JavaMail.root@sz0146a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4E6801C9.6060600@donnahalper.com>
So WEEI's strategy is to kill Mike-FM and simulcast, according to the
Globe. This gives WEEI an FM signal, but is it too late for them to be
competitive against The Sports Hub?
http://www.boston.com/sports/touching_all_the_bases/2011/09/weei_to_begin_fm_simulcast_mon.html?p1=Upbox_link
From kenwvt@gmail.com Wed Sep 7 19:17:14 2011
From: kenwvt@gmail.com (Ken VanTassell)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:17:14 -0400
Subject: WEEI to start simulcasting on 93.7
Message-ID:
http://www.boston.com/sports/touching_all_the_bases/2011/09/weei_to_begin_fm_simulcast_mon.html
From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Sep 7 19:39:46 2011
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:39:46 -0400
Subject: WEEI to begin FM simulcast Monday - Chad Finn's Touching All The
Bases - Boston.com
Message-ID:
The shocker is Entercom is killing Mike-FM...
http://www.boston.com/sports/touching_all_the_bases/2011/09/weei_to_begin_fm_simulcast_mon.html?p1=Upbox_links
From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Sep 7 20:01:30 2011
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 20:01:30 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <55bf3a0e-a77a-46df-b7ac-5f0a7b6c0784@email.android.com>
References: <55bf3a0e-a77a-46df-b7ac-5f0a7b6c0784@email.android.com>
Message-ID:
I figured it would be AAF they would kill but they must figure 103.7 will
handle the southern part of the market
On Sep 7, 2011 7:53 PM, "Scott Fybush" wrote:
> And we're off...Mike is gone, WEEI is up against WBZ on FM, 105.5 in Spfld
becomes WWEI and 103.7 in RI to WVEI-FM.
>
> Discuss... :)
From bob.bosra@demattia.net Wed Sep 7 22:08:49 2011
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 22:08:49 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To:
References: <55bf3a0e-a77a-46df-b7ac-5f0a7b6c0784@email.android.com>
Message-ID:
OK, I'm a little slow tonight. The change is NEXT Monday!
Interestingly, they ran an advertisement for WAAF during one
of their breaks. I wonder if they always did this, or if
they somehow think the MKK audience will convert to AAF.
Given the difference in formats, this seems unlikely.
-Bob
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Bob DeMattia wrote:
> Hmmmm. Mike-FM is still streaming as if nothing has happened.
>
> http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/entercom/player/?id=WMKK
>
>
> -Bob
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
>
>> I figured it would be AAF they would kill but they must figure 103.7 will
>> handle the southern part of the market
>> On Sep 7, 2011 7:53 PM, "Scott Fybush" wrote:
>> > And we're off...Mike is gone, WEEI is up against WBZ on FM, 105.5 in
>> Spfld
>> becomes WWEI and 103.7 in RI to WVEI-FM.
>> >
>> > Discuss... :)
>>
>
>
From bob.bosra@demattia.net Wed Sep 7 21:14:19 2011
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 21:14:19 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To:
References: <55bf3a0e-a77a-46df-b7ac-5f0a7b6c0784@email.android.com>
Message-ID:
Hmmmm. Mike-FM is still streaming as if nothing has happened.
http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/entercom/player/?id=WMKK
-Bob
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
> I figured it would be AAF they would kill but they must figure 103.7 will
> handle the southern part of the market
> On Sep 7, 2011 7:53 PM, "Scott Fybush" wrote:
> > And we're off...Mike is gone, WEEI is up against WBZ on FM, 105.5 in
> Spfld
> becomes WWEI and 103.7 in RI to WVEI-FM.
> >
> > Discuss... :)
>
From joe@attorneyross.com Wed Sep 7 22:49:41 2011
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross)
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 22:49:41 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To:
References: <55bf3a0e-a77a-46df-b7ac-5f0a7b6c0784@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <4E682D45.3030304@attorneyross.com>
On 9/7/2011 10:08 PM, Bob DeMattia wrote:
> OK, I'm a little slow tonight. The change is NEXT Monday!
> Interestingly, they ran an advertisement for WAAF during one
> of their breaks. I wonder if they always did this, or if
> they somehow think the MKK audience will convert to AAF.
> Given the difference in formats, this seems unlikely.
The newspaper story doesn't say they're going to change the call
letters. So I wonder whether it will actually be WEEI-FM or stay WMKK
or something else.
--
A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468
92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com
From vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net Wed Sep 7 22:00:05 2011
From: vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net (=?utf-8?b?RG91ZyBEcm93bg==?=)
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 22:00:05 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
Message-ID: <20110907220005.96bm16yk0s8so008@webmail.myfairpoint.net>
How clear is the 93.7 signal in Worcester? ?Does it render 1440
irrelevant? ?-Doug
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 19:16:24 -0400, Scott Fybush wrote:
And we're off...Mike is gone, WEEI is up against WBZ on FM, 105.5 in
Spfld becomes WWEI and 103.7 in RI to WVEI-FM.
>
> Discuss... :)
>
>
From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Sep 8 03:28:28 2011
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 03:28:28 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
Message-ID: <20110908072828.118960@gmx.com>
Globe story says Mike will not be moving elsewhere--in other words, it won't shift to 97.7 or 107.3.
From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Sep 8 03:20:13 2011
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 03:20:13 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <20110907220005.96bm16yk0s8so008@webmail.myfairpoint.net>
References: <20110907220005.96bm16yk0s8so008@webmail.myfairpoint.net>
Message-ID:
About time! It only makes sense and of course it's sweet for me
because where I work, I'm only a town away from 93.7's stick (Peabody/
I work in N. Reading). I suppose one can check out the signal chart
from radio-locator.com which of course should be taken with a shaker
of salt...
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WMKK&service=FM&status=L&hours=U
I think red line is extent of main signal, purple is distant, and blue
is fringe. The purple line goes
right through Worcester. I wonder how far the 93.7 in the Hartford
area goes, and will it affect
the reception of the new WEEI home at 93.7?
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Doug Drown wrote:
> How clear is the 93.7 signal in Worcester? ?Does it render 1440 irrelevant?
> ?-Doug
>
> On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 19:16:24 -0400, Scott Fybush ?wrote:
> And we're off...Mike is gone, WEEI is up against WBZ on FM, 105.5 in Spfld
> becomes WWEI and 103.7 in RI to WVEI-FM.
>>
>> Discuss... :)
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Sep 8 03:32:10 2011
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 03:32:10 -0400
Subject: WEEI to begin FM simulcast Monday - Chad Finn's Touching All The
Bases - Boston.com
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Would have thought they might have saved it by moving it to 97.7.
Guess not. Well WEEI on 93.7 is fine by me
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
> The shocker is Entercom is killing Mike-FM...
>
> http://www.boston.com/sports/touching_all_the_bases/2011/09/weei_to_begin_fm_simulcast_mon.html?p1=Upbox_links
>
From m_carney@yahoo.com Thu Sep 8 07:08:17 2011
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 04:08:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To:
References: <55bf3a0e-a77a-46df-b7ac-5f0a7b6c0784@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <1315480097.24288.YahooMailNeo@web161313.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
They alternate between Mike-FM and WAAF promos, usually 1 per hour.
From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu Sep 8 15:46:26 2011
From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:46:26 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
Message-ID: <21877845.1315511186784.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 20:01:30 -0400
>From: Kevin Vahey
>To: Scott Fybush
>Cc: bri@bostonradio.org
>Subject: Re: WEEI-FM 93.7
>
>I figured it would be AAF they would kill but they
>must figure 103.7 will handle the southern part of
>the market
93.7 is their most competitive FM signal against "The
Sports Hub" WBZ-FM within the Boston metro. I think
that is their primary concern, more than which music
format was sacrificed.
The 97.7 transmitter is closer to Boston proper, but
the signal is a lot weaker overall than 93.7. 107.3
remains primarily a Metro-West and Central MA signal
despite any past attempts to make it a Boston signal.
As for music formats, WAAF actually has a heritage of
sorts as a rock station, and is the only contemporary
mainstream rock station left in the market. "Mike FM",
though it did fairly well, had a lot of overlap with
Classic Hits and Classic Rock stations as well as AC
and Hot AC stations. Though it was an odd mix at times
there wasn't really much music that was unique to the
market, despite any claims otherwise.
EP
From m_carney@yahoo.com Fri Sep 9 10:10:18 2011
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 07:10:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <21877845.1315511186784.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <21877845.1315511186784.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1315577418.72396.YahooMailNeo@web161315.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Mike-FM was running the "follow us on Twitter" liners this morning, but there was one promo for WEEI coming on Monday, tagged with "Sports Radio 93.7" and no call letters.
From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Sep 9 12:36:59 2011
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:36:59 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
Message-ID: <20110909163700.210580@gmx.com>
On Sept 15 a Peabody woman who won a radio contest for singing can croon the National
Anthem at Fenway. Technically by then the station that gave it to her, Mike 93.7, will no longer exist.
http://features.937mikefm.com/contests/oh_say_can_you_sing_winner.php
>>Everyone did a fantastic job, and we look forward to seeing everyone again next year!
Wonder if WEEI-FM 93.7 will keep the contest going?
----- Original Message -----
From: Maureen Carney
Sent: 09/09/11 10:10 AM
To: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
Subject: Re: WEEI-FM 93.7
Mike-FM was running the "follow us on Twitter" liners this morning, but there was one promo for WEEI coming on Monday, tagged with "Sports Radio 93.7" and no call letters.
From m_carney@yahoo.com Fri Sep 9 13:51:02 2011
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 10:51:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <20110909163700.210580@gmx.com>
References: <20110909163700.210580@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <1315590662.68060.YahooMailNeo@web161316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Reminds me of when Star 93.7 became Mike-FM. Star was promoting a station concert (I can't remember the acts) that happened a few weeks after the switch. It went on, apparently with the old station branding.
From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Sep 9 14:12:29 2011
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:12:29 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <20110909163700.210580@gmx.com>
References: <20110909163700.210580@gmx.com>
Message-ID:
On Sep 9, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Bob Nelson wrote:
> On Sept 15 a Peabody woman who won a radio contest for singing can croon the National
> Anthem at Fenway. Technically by then the station that gave it to her, Mike 93.7, will no longer exist.
>
> http://features.937mikefm.com/contests/oh_say_can_you_sing_winner.php
Maybe it will still exist on an HD subchannel?
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH
From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 9 16:15:49 2011
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 16:15:49 -0400
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
Message-ID:
Radio Shack no longer carries HD radios and Best Buy wants you to order on
line to pick up at the store.
Does this format have any chance to survive?
From francini@mac.com Fri Sep 9 15:50:06 2011
From: francini@mac.com (John Francini)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 15:50:06 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To:
References: <20110909163700.210580@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <420CCE6C-7398-4DC1-86F5-3DE89C679179@mac.com>
I hope not...
I also hope that their 'simulcast' doesn't introduce the damnable HD-Radio delay normally required -- that will make 93.7 utterly useless at Fenway Park. Yes, when I go to ballgames, I bring a headset radio so I can hear what the pitch location was, as it's hard to see it from our seats. The AM broadcast has near zero delay right now.
John
On 9 Sep 2011, at 14:12, Larry Weil wrote:
>
> On Sep 9, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Bob Nelson wrote:
>
>> On Sept 15 a Peabody woman who won a radio contest for singing can croon the National
>> Anthem at Fenway. Technically by then the station that gave it to her, Mike 93.7, will no longer exist.
>>
>> http://features.937mikefm.com/contests/oh_say_can_you_sing_winner.php
>
> Maybe it will still exist on an HD subchannel?
>
> Larry Weil
> Lake Wobegone, NH
>
>
>
From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Fri Sep 9 16:40:59 2011
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 16:40:59 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <420CCE6C-7398-4DC1-86F5-3DE89C679179@mac.com>
References: <20110909163700.210580@gmx.com>
<420CCE6C-7398-4DC1-86F5-3DE89C679179@mac.com>
Message-ID:
Several stations, AM and FM, that run HD and carry sports turn it off during
games.
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:50 PM, John Francini wrote:
> I hope not...
>
> I also hope that their 'simulcast' doesn't introduce the damnable HD-Radio
> delay normally required -- that will make 93.7 utterly useless at Fenway
> Park. Yes, when I go to ballgames, I bring a headset radio so I can hear
> what the pitch location was, as it's hard to see it from our seats. The AM
> broadcast has near zero delay right now.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> On 9 Sep 2011, at 14:12, Larry Weil wrote:
>
> >
> > On Sep 9, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Bob Nelson wrote:
> >
> >> On Sept 15 a Peabody woman who won a radio contest for singing can croon
> the National
> >> Anthem at Fenway. Technically by then the station that gave it to her,
> Mike 93.7, will no longer exist.
> >>
> >> http://features.937mikefm.com/contests/oh_say_can_you_sing_winner.php
> >
> > Maybe it will still exist on an HD subchannel?
> >
> > Larry Weil
> > Lake Wobegone, NH
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Sep 9 16:41:35 2011
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 16:41:35 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
Message-ID: <20110909204135.210540@gmx.com>
By the way, the Sox could have been on a Boston-area FM in '05 or '06 (and note I say Boston, so I'm not talking about WBOQ or anything)
2005: WODS _almost_ went to a Jack-like format. "Mike 93.7" beat them to it. Had WODS gone to Jack, Entercom may have just said, "well, maybe we can simulcast WEEI on 93.7..."
April 2006: Papers like the Globe reported a "done deal" in which Greater Media would have sold much of WBOS 92.9
to the Red Sox. The flagship would have been 92.9...imagine, WBOS would have been your home for the 2007
World Champions. In May of '06, GM must have thrown in the towel, walked away. Entercom signed a 10 year deal (has since been extended?) with WRKO carrying most games, WEEI a few. Of course when Sports Hub debuted in August of 2009, Entercom quickly switched just about all Sox games to 850 only to shore them up as a sports station.
(WRKO had occasional situations like Celts/Sox conflicts, from then)
From Jibguy@aol.com Fri Sep 9 18:15:47 2011
From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 18:15:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
Message-ID: <960ee.61bae82e.3b9bea12@aol.com>
In a message dated 9/9/2011 4:19:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
kvahey@gmail.com writes:
Radio Shack no longer carries HD radios and Best Buy wants you to order on
line to pick up at the store.
Does this format have any chance to survive?
----------------------------------
Nope! It's dead & buried. :-)
---BB
From kenwvt@gmail.com Fri Sep 9 18:23:27 2011
From: kenwvt@gmail.com (Ken Vantassell)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 18:23:27 -0400
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <897837A1-2D6C-4185-9CA9-B035A7B4A3B6@gmail.com>
Hd radio will only survive if they start including it in all radios manufactured. I bet more people stream on their smartphones than listen to HD radio.
Ken
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
> Radio Shack no longer carries HD radios and Best Buy wants you to order on
> line to pick up at the store.
>
> Does this format have any chance to survive?
From marklaurence@mac.com Fri Sep 9 19:31:49 2011
From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 08:31:49 +0900
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <899F1680-EB4A-4E14-A6B9-73D67D4B9778@mac.com>
How many people buy "radios" of any kind at Best Buy? If you were going to buy an HD radio, wouldn't the first place you'd look be Amazon? They seem to have a bazillion of them.
On Sep 10, 2011, at 5:15 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
> Radio Shack no longer carries HD radios and Best Buy wants you to order on
> line to pick up at the store.
>
> Does this format have any chance to survive?
From sid@wrko.com Fri Sep 9 17:41:56 2011
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:41:56 +0000
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA37B2E9@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com>
"Does this format have any chance to survive?"
There really does appear to be very little consumer interest, and radio industry figures show that new HD station conversions have slowed to a trickle. Last figures I saw for US stations showed approximately 17% of FMs and 3% of AMs are running HD at all, not to mention those AMs running it daytime-only. Considering that it has been a viable transmission mode for almost a decade, I don't think the prospects look good.
Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Brighton MA 02135-2040
From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Sep 9 20:45:31 2011
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 20:45:31 -0400
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To: <899F1680-EB4A-4E14-A6B9-73D67D4B9778@mac.com>
References:
<899F1680-EB4A-4E14-A6B9-73D67D4B9778@mac.com>
Message-ID: <1C8DA2B8-4304-4E2C-8210-43D86B284ED9@mac.com>
There are still a gazillion people who do not shop on the internet, my parents among them. Next time you are in Best Buy, take a look at the car radios, I believe they still have some that do HD.
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH
Sent from my iPhone
Big freekin deal!
On Sep 9, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Mark Laurence wrote:
> How many people buy "radios" of any kind at Best Buy? If you were going to buy an HD radio, wouldn't the first place you'd look be Amazon? They seem to have a bazillion of them.
>
>
> On Sep 10, 2011, at 5:15 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
>
>> Radio Shack no longer carries HD radios and Best Buy wants you to order on
>> line to pick up at the store.
>>
>> Does this format have any chance to survive?
>
From sid@wrko.com Fri Sep 9 22:02:37 2011
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 02:02:37 +0000
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To:
References:
<6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA37B2E9@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com>,
Message-ID:
"Is there any PPM data to indicate if anybody is listening?"
Nothing so far in the Boston or Providence markets. The WBZ-FM stream does show up, however.
Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Brighton MA. 02135-2040
From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Sep 9 21:52:48 2011
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:52:48 -0400
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To: <6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA37B2E9@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com>
References:
<6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA37B2E9@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com>
Message-ID:
Is there any PPM data to indicate if anybody is listening? This is getting
like UHF in the 50's.
On Sep 9, 2011 9:43 PM, "Sid Schweiger" wrote:
> "Does this format have any chance to survive?"
>
> There really does appear to be very little consumer interest, and radio
industry figures show that new HD station conversions have slowed to a
trickle. Last figures I saw for US stations showed approximately 17% of FMs
and 3% of AMs are running HD at all, not to mention those AMs running it
daytime-only. Considering that it has been a viable transmission mode for
almost a decade, I don't think the prospects look good.
>
> Sid Schweiger
> IT Manager, Entercom New England
> 20 Guest St / 3d Floor
> Brighton MA 02135-2040
>
From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Sep 9 22:11:10 2011
From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 22:11:10 -0400
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To:
References:
<6D618EE163582E43B00A6455F34B29EA37B2E9@ENTCOREXMB04.etmcorad.com>
Message-ID: <2ACF4EBF-D0BE-4F05-BFE2-93CA447B6447@comcast.net>
You'll see HD2 stations show up in the ratings in some markets like Baltimore and Atlanta...BUT... This is only because they're being simulcast on very powerful translators with close to if not equal coverage to a class A station (250 watts at around 1000').
I don't think any HD2 has shown up on it's own.
Jeff Lehmann
On Sep 9, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Sid Schweiger wrote:
> "Is there any PPM data to indicate if anybody is listening?"
>
> Nothing so far in the Boston or Providence markets. The WBZ-FM stream does show up, however.
>
> Sid Schweiger
> IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC
> 20 Guest St / 3d Floor
> Brighton MA. 02135-2040
From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Fri Sep 9 22:08:12 2011
From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (D. A.)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 19:08:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To: <960ee.61bae82e.3b9bea12@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1315620492.45207.YahooMailClassic@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> kvahey@gmail.com
> writes:
>
> Does this format have any chance to? survive?
>
> ----------------------------------
> Nope!? It's dead & buried.???:-)
>
> ---BB
Just like the AM band?
With one of the big formats leaving the band next week....Is there ANY reason to turn on AM besides WBZ?
From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Sep 10 00:51:11 2011
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 00:51:11 -0400
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To: <1315620492.45207.YahooMailClassic@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315620492.45207.YahooMailClassic@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E6AECBF.3050806@attorneyross.com>
On 9/9/2011 10:08 PM, D. A. wrote:
>> ----------------------------------
>> Nope! It's dead& buried. :-)
>>
>> ---BB
>
> Just like the AM band?
>
> With one of the big formats leaving the band next week....Is there ANY reason to turn on AM besides WBZ?
Well, first of all, I haven't heard that WEEI was leaving the band, just
expanding to FM. I'd guess there must be some places where the AM
signal is the better signal.
As for reasons to tune AM, my car radio has six AM buttons. Only two
are set for local stations: WJIB and WBZ. Three are set for Western
Massachusetts stations: WNNZ, WPNI, and WHMP. The sixth is set for
1600, which is both WUNR and one WHNP, of WHMP's satellites. WNNZ is
public radio talk (WFCR tends to play classical music, though not full
time), WPNI relays WUMB folk, and WHMP carries progressive talk.
--
A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468
92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com
From paul@derrynh.net Sat Sep 10 01:09:11 2011
From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 01:09:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <20110909204135.210540@gmx.com>
References: <20110909204135.210540@gmx.com>
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BTW: How long before 850 AM becomes a 24/7 ESPN relay? I say 6 months to 'train'
the listener to go to 93.7, then 93.7 goes from WEEI-FM to WEEI (FM) and 850 is
some amalgamation of WESP or WSPN or some such....
?
-Paul Hopfgarten
Epping NH
On September 9, 2011 at 4:41 PM Bob Nelson wrote:
> By the way, the Sox could have been on a Boston-area FM in '05 or
> '06 (and note I say Boston, so I'm not talking about WBOQ or
> anything)
>
>? 2005: WODS _almost_ went to a Jack-like format. "Mike 93.7" beat them to it.
>Had WODS gone to Jack, Entercom may have just said, "well, maybe we can
>simulcast WEEI on 93.7..."
>
>? April 2006: Papers like the Globe reported a "done deal" in which Greater
>Media would have sold much of WBOS 92.9
>? to the Red Sox. The flagship would have been 92.9...imagine, WBOS would have
>been your home for the 2007
>? World Champions. In May of '06, GM must have thrown in the towel, walked
>away. Entercom signed a 10 year deal (has since been extended?) with WRKO
>carrying most games, WEEI a few. Of course when Sports Hub debuted in August of
>2009, Entercom quickly switched just about all Sox games to 850 only to shore
>them up as a sports station.
>? (WRKO had occasional situations like Celts/Sox conflicts, from then)
From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sat Sep 10 02:02:31 2011
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 02:02:31 -0400
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
References: <1315620492.45207.YahooMailClassic@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<4E6AECBF.3050806@attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <65925BA7593143729882AA2A69BD6558@s20035>
>>> ----------------------------------
>>> Nope! It's dead& buried. :-)
>>>
>>> ---BB
>>
>> Just like the AM band?
>>
>> With one of the big formats leaving the band next week....Is there ANY
>> reason to turn on AM besides WBZ?
>
> Well, first of all, I haven't heard that WEEI was leaving the band, just
> expanding to FM.
If it's available on FM....why would anyone listen to it on AM?
With this switch.....there's one less reason for people to go to the AM
band.
> I'd guess there must be some places where the AM signal is the better
> signal.
I can't imagine where!
From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Sat Sep 10 02:35:56 2011
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 02:35:56 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
References: <20110909204135.210540@gmx.com>
<730441029.114168.1315631352058.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw06.schlund.de>
Message-ID: <8359981CFD6E44C1861991F56465828A@s20035>
>> BTW: How long before 850 AM becomes a 24/7 ESPN relay?
Why would WEEI(FM) want to give people a reason to listen to ANOTHER sports
signal?
Wouldn't they rather those people listen to WEEI-FM?
From bob.bosra@demattia.net Sat Sep 10 09:18:03 2011
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:18:03 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <8359981CFD6E44C1861991F56465828A@s20035>
References: <20110909204135.210540@gmx.com>
<730441029.114168.1315631352058.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw06.schlund.de>
<8359981CFD6E44C1861991F56465828A@s20035>
Message-ID:
Why would WEEI(FM) want to give people a reason to listen to ANOTHER sports
signal?
That's a reason for Entercom to NOT sell AM 850.
With no sports talk on AM, someone might get that idea.
From xradioguy@yahoo.com Sat Sep 10 09:38:04 2011
From: xradioguy@yahoo.com (Ari Alpert)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 06:38:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To: <65925BA7593143729882AA2A69BD6558@s20035>
References: <1315620492.45207.YahooMailClassic@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<4E6AECBF.3050806@attorneyross.com>
<65925BA7593143729882AA2A69BD6558@s20035>
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> If it's available on FM....why would anyone listen to it on AM?
> With this switch.....there's one less reason for people to go to the AM band.
Can't imagine that AM losing more listeners doesn't hurt WBZ-AM. When does WBZ-AM make the switch to FM assuming this is no longer an if but a when? How does NewsRadio 103.3 sound in 2012 or is there another property CBS might flip or move?
-Ari (owner of 3 HD radio tuners + 1 internet "radio" receiver)
From map@mapinternet.com Sat Sep 10 09:00:10 2011
From: map@mapinternet.com (Mark Casey)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:00:10 -0400
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To: <897837A1-2D6C-4185-9CA9-B035A7B4A3B6@gmail.com>
References:
<897837A1-2D6C-4185-9CA9-B035A7B4A3B6@gmail.com>
Message-ID:
Pretty doubtful that HD would be required by law. But if the Auto (& Truck)
manufacturers would include HD as standard, the format would have a chance.
And, much to my chagrin as a radio DX'er and this form affecting adjacent
channel reception, the power needs to be increased.
If, at least,the auto standard doesn't happen, it's doomed to it's current
status or failure.
I've got to think that many folks still want to see a demo model when buying
an item like a new fancier radio, so, Radio Shack's & Best Buy's dropping of
stocking HD radios is a serious hit.
Mark Casey
Hd radio will only survive if they start including it in all radios
manufactured. I bet more people stream on their smartphones than listen to
HD radio.
Ken
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
> Radio Shack no longer carries HD radios and Best Buy wants you to order on
> line to pick up at the store.
>
> Does this format have any chance to survive?
From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Sep 10 11:17:48 2011
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:17:48 -0400
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To: <1315661884.84046.YahooMailNeo@web122505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315620492.45207.YahooMailClassic@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<4E6AECBF.3050806@attorneyross.com>
<65925BA7593143729882AA2A69BD6558@s20035>
<1315661884.84046.YahooMailNeo@web122505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID:
WBUR does very well with news because it is on FM.... the mighty 1030's
audience has been eroding the past few years.
When did the FCC start allowing full simulcasting pf AM and FM in a market?
Back in the 60's they required at least 12 hours of separate programming to
spur interest in the band but that was rescinded at some point but I can not
recall when.
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Ari Alpert wrote:
>
> > If it's available on FM....why would anyone listen to it on AM?
>
> > With this switch.....there's one less reason for people to go to the AM
> band.
>
> Can't imagine that AM losing more listeners doesn't hurt WBZ-AM. When does
> WBZ-AM make the switch to FM assuming this is no longer an if but a when?
> How does NewsRadio 103.3 sound in 2012 or is there another property CBS
> might flip or move?
>
> -Ari (owner of 3 HD radio tuners + 1 internet "radio" receiver)
>
>
>
>
From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Sep 10 14:42:54 2011
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:42:54 -0400
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?The_David_Brudnoy_Show_From_September_11th=2C_2001_=AB_?=
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?CBS_Boston?=
Message-ID:
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/09/09/the-david-brudnoy-show-from-september-11th-2001/
May well have been his finest show
From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Sat Sep 10 17:15:45 2011
From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:15:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
Message-ID: <1315689345.31688.YahooMailClassic@web112102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
>A. Joseph Ross wrote:
> I'd guess there must be some places where the AM signal is the better signal.
>--- And . . . On Sat, 9/10/11, Don wrote:
>I can't imagine
where!???? How about anywhere east of the FM antennas' horizon -- great for the fishing fleet :))???? But . . . serioiusly . . . what about parts of N.H.? No?
From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Sat Sep 10 17:44:07 2011
From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:44:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To: <4E6AECBF.3050806@attorneyross.com>
Message-ID: <1315691047.50056.YahooMailClassic@web112104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
>--- On Sat, 9/10/11, A Joseph Ross wrote:
>As for reasons to tune AM, my car radio has six AM buttons.? Only two are set for local >stations:? WJIB and WBZ . . .????? This reminds me of the differences between the #10 market and the #1 market. Living on the outer edge of the extreme Greater New York City area, 76 crow-flying miles from Central Park, the 12 AM presets on my car radio (isn't Sony optimistic ?) are set to:??? ?WICC, Bridgeport; WOR; WNYC; WCBS; WELI, New Haven; WINS, WBZ,?WTIC, WBBR, WQUN-Hamden, Conn.; WMMW-Meriden, Conn.?(rebroadcasts Conn.'s oldest AM station, WDRC, Hartford). And one for whatever catches my fancy at the moment -- often used for WWKB or the former WTOP or 740 from Toronto or the Canadian on 900 that runs old radio dramas at night.?????? ???
From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Sep 10 18:23:45 2011
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:23:45 -0400
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To: <1315689345.31688.YahooMailClassic@web112102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315689345.31688.YahooMailClassic@web112102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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93.7 blankets Southern NH and York County in Maine. AM will be better on the
south shore but there 103.7 kicks in.
On Sep 10, 2011 6:11 PM, "Martin Waters" wrote:
>>A. Joseph Ross wrote:
>> I'd guess there must be some places where the AM signal is the better
signal.
>>--- And . . . On Sat, 9/10/11, Don wrote:
>>I can't imagine
> where! How about anywhere east of the FM antennas' horizon -- great
for the fishing fleet :)) But . . . serioiusly . . . what about parts of
N.H.? No?
From rac@gabrielmass.com Sat Sep 10 22:04:23 2011
From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:04:23 -0400
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_The_David_Brudnoy_Show_From_Sep?=
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?tember_11th=2C_2001_=AB_CBS_Boston?=
In-Reply-To:
References:
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Thanks for posting this; I wouldn't have known about it otherwise.
Y'know, it would be great if WBZ would produce a podcast from the
Brudnoy audio archives: there are so many fine interviews and
monologues, and even some listener calls that would be good to hear again.
--RC
On 09/10/2011 02:42 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
> http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/09/09/the-david-brudnoy-show-from-september-11th-2001/
>
> May well have been his finest show
>
From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Sep 10 23:28:35 2011
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:28:35 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To:
References: <20110909204135.210540@gmx.com>
<730441029.114168.1315631352058.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw06.schlund.de>
<8359981CFD6E44C1861991F56465828A@s20035>
Message-ID: <4E6C2AE3.7070906@attorneyross.com>
On 9/10/2011 9:18 AM, Bob DeMattia wrote:
> Why would WEEI(FM) want to give people a reason to listen to ANOTHER sports
> signal?
>
> That's a reason for Entercom to NOT sell AM 850.
> With no sports talk on AM, someone might get that idea.
Well, instead of selling 850 or running ESPN there, what might they do?
Some other format? Such as?
--
A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468
92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com
From joe@attorneyross.com Sat Sep 10 23:31:41 2011
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:31:41 -0400
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
In-Reply-To: <1315661884.84046.YahooMailNeo@web122505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315620492.45207.YahooMailClassic@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<4E6AECBF.3050806@attorneyross.com>
<65925BA7593143729882AA2A69BD6558@s20035>
<1315661884.84046.YahooMailNeo@web122505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E6C2B9D.4090901@attorneyross.com>
On 9/10/2011 9:38 AM, Ari Alpert wrote:
>
> > If it's available on FM....why would anyone listen to it on AM?
>
> > With this switch.....there's one less reason for people to go to the
> AM band.
>
> Can't imagine that AM losing more listeners doesn't hurt WBZ-AM. When
> does WBZ-AM make the switch to FM assuming this is no longer an if but
> a when? How does NewsRadio 103.3 sound in 2012 or is there another
> property CBS might flip or move?
Yet another WBZ-FM? What new call letters will they put on Boston's
Sports Hub?
Come to think of it, is there anything to prevent having a WBZ (FM) and
a WBZ-FM at the same time?
--
A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468
92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com
From bob.bosra@demattia.net Sun Sep 11 08:51:42 2011
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 08:51:42 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <4E6C2AE3.7070906@attorneyross.com>
References: <20110909204135.210540@gmx.com>
<730441029.114168.1315631352058.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw06.schlund.de>
<8359981CFD6E44C1861991F56465828A@s20035>
<4E6C2AE3.7070906@attorneyross.com>
Message-ID:
> Well, instead of selling 850 or running ESPN there, what might they do?
Some other format? Such as?
Keep doing what they are doing, unless an offer they can't refuse comes
along.
I'm sure there are some areas where the AM signal is still useful; though I
imagine much of that area is outside their market area.
How much is a 50kW signal lower-frequency major market AM station worth?
-Bob
From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Sep 11 10:33:30 2011
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:33:30 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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The way you've posed the question, an honest answer is impossible.
Even in the same market, it's impossible. For example, do you
honestlty believe that anyone could assign a single value to, say,
sports-talk WFAN and Radio Disney WQEW? Both are 50 kW-U Class A AMs
in the New York market. (Both even have transmitter sites east of
Manhattan--an uncommon location in that market.) I suspect that WFAN,
at 660, would fetch at least five times what WQEW, 900 kHz up the
dial, would fetch.
In this market, do you honestly believe that anyone could legitimately
assign a single value to WEEI and WWZN? Both are 50 kW-U DA-2 Class B
AMs. I think a 5:1 ratio for WEEI vs WWZN could easily apply.
OK, you qualified your question with "lower frequency," which WQEW and
WWZN obviously are not. You might be able to assign one value to WFAN
and WOR or to WEEI and WRKO. And almost certainly, the ratios would be
less than 5:1, but I wouldn't bet on 1:1; the ratios could still be
close to 2:1. Note that both WOR and WWZN are substantially (or
entirely) brokered time.
BTW, WOR's long-standing (many decades) reliance on brokered time
points the way toward what Entercom could run on WRKO and WEEI.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob DeMattia"
To: "boston Radio Interest"
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: WEEI-FM 93.7
>
> How much is a 50kW signal lower-frequency major market AM station
> worth?
>
> -Bob
From billohno@gmail.com Sun Sep 11 18:45:30 2011
From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:45:30 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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A good example of where AM is useful is in Vermont where WDEV (550 Waterbury) is simulcast on WDEV-FM (96.1 Warren). While the FM (and its translators) footprints are superior particularly by night, there remain locations (fixed and travel) where the AM penetrates the Green Mountain topographical challenges with ease. This is also an option since the AM could not stand alone fiscally, no doubt.
Bill O'Neill
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_____________________________________________
From: Bob DeMattia
Sent: Sun Sep 11 08:51:42 EDT 2011
To: boston Radio Interest
Subject: Re: WEEI-FM 93.7
> Well, instead of selling 850 or running ESPN there, what might they do?
Some other format? Such as?
Keep doing what they are doing, unless an offer they can't refuse comes
along.
I'm sure there are some areas where the AM signal is still useful; though I
imagine much of that area is outside their market area.
How much is a 50kW signal lower-frequency major market AM station worth?
-Bob
From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Sep 11 22:20:04 2011
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:20:04 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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On 9/11/2011 6:45 PM, Bill O'Neill wrote:
> A good example of where AM is useful is in Vermont where WDEV (550 Waterbury) is simulcast on WDEV-FM (96.1 Warren). While the FM (and its translators) footprints are superior particularly by night, there remain locations (fixed and travel) where the AM penetrates the Green Mountain topographical challenges with ease. This is also an option since the AM could not stand alone fiscally, no doubt.
I've heard that this sort of thing also applies in the San Francisco
area. I've heard it said that only an AM signal can cover the entire
metropolitan area.
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From raccoonradio@mail.com Sun Sep 11 23:37:04 2011
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:37:04 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
Message-ID: <20110912033704.210580@gmx.com>
http://www.fybush.com/nerw.html
In the latest North East Radio Watch Scott Fybush wonders if perhaps Ent. could shift RKO to 850...
a slight improvement in signal possibly (but would it be worth the trouble?)
Also, Scott says he'll be part of a forthcoming Steve Leveille broadcast on WBZ celebrating the
90th birthday of WBZ radio (Sun into Monday 9/18-19) (My two pennies on the former: it may be a slight improvement but would it be worth it in long run? Changing minds to accept the new frequency, printing new stationery and so on... I suppose if they did it maybe we would see "WEEI AM 680" with local hosts and some ESPN...)
>>Could WEEI's FM move provide an opening to relocate WRKO from 680 to the 850 signal? Both are 50,000-watters, but 850's Needham transmitter site (where a brand-new Harris Destiny 3DX50 transmitter is being installed this month) gives that signal the reach into MetroWest that 680 is notoriously lacking after dark.
From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 01:57:28 2011
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 01:57:28 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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> In this market, do you honestly believe that anyone could legitimately
> assign a single value to WEEI and WWZN? Both are 50 kW-U DA-2 Class B
> AMs. I think a 5:1 ratio for WEEI vs WWZN could easily apply.
However, in some cases you are simply buying the "facility"...and not the
business.
From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Sep 12 07:30:33 2011
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 07:30:33 -0400
Subject: Format change audio, WMKK into WEEI-FM (WMKK)
Message-ID: <20110912113034.210570@gmx.com>
The call letters are still apparently WMKK for now as evidenced by the ID
http://raccoonradio.freehostia.com/Air/WEEIfmFormat.mp3
From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Sep 12 08:20:49 2011
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:20:49 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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WRKO has a better signal than WEEI almost everywhere and is local in
areas like southern NH and nearly all of Cape Cod that WEEI can only
wish to cover. The only exception is in MetroWest at night, where the
advantage goes to WEEI, but by less than a huge amount. The reason is
that WRKO is on a better frequency, has, by far, the better
transmitter location, and consequently, can have much better
directional patterns. Instead of wasting signal over Mass Bay and the
rest of the north Atlantic (a necessity for WEEI to deliver a
competitive signal to downtown Boston from its Needham location), WRKO
can send most of its signal to the north and southeast. The northern
lobe covers the Merrimack Valley and southern NH; the southeastern
lobe, which covers Boston, emerges from the City only modestly
attenuated and continues over the salt water to Cape Cod where it
becomes the Cape's best AM signal (well, OK, maybe second best, now
that WNSH is sending 30 kW in all directions from a point right at the
water's edge on the North Shore).
Given that WEEI, whether it remains a simulcast of 93.7 or switches to
full-time ESPN, will probably continue to make more money than WRKO
does, it might make sense for Entercom to switch WEEI to the better
680 signal. However, a big disadvantage of such a move is the
potential loss of some part of the audience that is used to tuning to
850 for sports. Lose them, and you probably lose any advantage you
might have gotten from having the bigger moneymaker on the better
signal. Entercom needs to bring on board somebody with a long history
at Buckley, and specifically, at WOR. Presumably, such an individual
would know how to tap the brokered-time market. I see brokered time as
a BIG part of WRKO's future and perhaps a not-insignificant part of
WEEI's future. WOR has been running brokered-time programs for well
over half a century; I remember Carleton Fredericks on WOR back in the
'40s. That was almost 70 years ago! WOR proves that brokered-time
radio need not be inextricably linked to colon-cleanse info-mercials.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Nelson"
To: "A Joseph Ross" ;
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: WEEI-FM 93.7
> http://www.fybush.com/nerw.html
>
> In the latest North East Radio Watch Scott Fybush wonders if perhaps
> Ent. could shift RKO to 850...
> a slight improvement in signal possibly (but would it be worth the
> trouble?)
> Also, Scott says he'll be part of a forthcoming Steve Leveille
> broadcast on WBZ celebrating the
> 90th birthday of WBZ radio (Sun into Monday 9/18-19) (My two pennies
> on the former: it may be a slight improvement but would it be worth
> it in long run? Changing minds to accept the new frequency, printing
> new stationery and so on... I suppose if they did it maybe we would
> see "WEEI AM 680" with local hosts and some ESPN...)
>
> >>Could WEEI's FM move provide an opening to relocate WRKO from 680
> >>to the 850 signal? Both are 50,000-watters, but 850's Needham
> >>transmitter site (where a brand-new Harris Destiny 3DX50
> >>transmitter is being installed this month) gives that signal the
> >>reach into MetroWest that 680 is notoriously lacking after dark.
From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Sep 12 08:47:56 2011
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:47:56 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
Message-ID: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com>
Agreed about the WRKO and WEEI signals, and that the only advantage WEEI (AM) has is the slightly-better-to
Metro-West coverage (at night). Even then there could still be mixing with other 850s. I will say that yesterday when I was on Cape Cod (W. Yarmouth/Hyannis area)
WRKO had a little power line interference at times but was fairly solid. (Also by the way, as I drove to Cape
Cod on Sat. I kept checking 93.7. It came in fairly well down Rt 3, though a bit of drift around Plymouth, and
could reach Cape Cod slightly but of course WEEI's sister stations at 96.3 for Cape/Islands and 103.7
in R.I. can help on the Cape.)
By the way speaking of WNSH, that 30,000 watt day signal could actually come in (slightly) way up around
Lake Sunapee NH (with good car stereo); the 85w night signal, meanwhile, has a tough time covering the COL of Beverly!
Interesting about brokered time on WRKO. If Howie Carr flees in a year or so, will WRKO continue talk or eventually give it up? WEEI is definitely the money-maker for Entercom and even though WMKK also brought in some bucks,
they had to pull the plug to shore up WEEI--competition from Sports Hub, the demand for a static-free FM
signal, younger people preferring FM, and so on. If Entercom had a fourth FM property in town you could have seen Mike go there. The 97.7 is helpful for their WAAF signal to reach a bit further. Otherwise that could have been the new home for Mike.
By the way WEEI covers much of New England with their "network". WBZ-FM has a very good signal at 98.5
but you wonder if they may consider doing the same thing. As far as play by play goes, there are networks for
the Bruins and Patriots but you wonder if maybe CBS had other properties in New England (Hartford?) where
they could expand the coverage of their talk shows.
A Connecticut Yankee fan (not in King Arthur's Court...) says he has static trouble with WPOP in Hartford and
was hoping that the 97.9 licensed to Enfield CT might start carrying Yankees games, as a rumor goes. That station
is now WPKX doing country.
From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Sep 12 09:20:53 2011
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:20:53 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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>From a technical standpoint, what Entercom did with 107.3 is an
out-and-out tragedy. I had a dental appointment Friday. The dental
office is in a large office building at 405 Cochituate Rd near Speen
St on the Framingham-Natick line. If you are familar with the area,
it's the Fidelity building. The mutual fund outfit has a large office
on the ground floor and its name is plastered all over the front of
the building, which faces Cochituate Rd. AFAIK. the 107.3 stick is on
the Channel 27 tower on Stiles Hill (which I believe is in Hudson, but
I could be wrong). I arrived early and spent some time in the parking
lot in front of the building tuning in FM signals. WAAF was total
crap--all multipath. The station is licensed to Southborough, has its
transmitter in MetroWest, and it was unlistenable at a point right at
the very heart of MetroWest. Also, I'm pretty sure that my QTH was
east of the WAAF Tx, IOW, in the same direction as Boston, which
is the city that WAAF is now supposedly designed to reach.
Meanwhile, the stations at WAAF's old site on Asnebumskit Hill
in Paxton (90.5 and 96.1--there may be others, but I don't know the
frequencies) were booming in. 90.5 (WICN) does not have much
power, but it came in clearly on my car radio all the way to
128, where first-adjacent WZBC began to give it some trouble.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Nelson"
To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; "Boston Radio Interest"
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: WEEI-FM 93.7
> Agreed about the WRKO and WEEI signals, and that the only advantage
> WEEI (AM) has is the slightly-better-to
> Metro-West coverage (at night). Even then there could still be
> mixing with other 850s. I will say that yesterday when I was on Cape
> Cod (W. Yarmouth/Hyannis area)
> WRKO had a little power line interference at times but was fairly
> solid. (Also by the way, as I drove to Cape
> Cod on Sat. I kept checking 93.7. It came in fairly well down Rt 3,
> though a bit of drift around Plymouth, and
> could reach Cape Cod slightly but of course WEEI's sister stations
> at 96.3 for Cape/Islands and 103.7
> in R.I. can help on the Cape.)
From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Sep 12 09:56:43 2011
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:56:43 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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Here is another intriguing idea. Well, it's intriguing to me. Alex
Langer still owns WSRO 650, which makes good money for him carrying
brokered-time programming that is mostly, if not entirely, in
Portuguese to serve Framingham's large Brazilian community. Ashland-
licensed WSRO is a Class D AM running 250W-D 9W-N from one of the old
WKOX sticks at 100 Mt Wayte Ave almost right in the middle of
Framingham.
When WKOX decamped from its old site to move to Newton (and increase
to 50 kW-U) and WQOM moved out to consolidate its day and night
facilities at the five-tower site it shares with WAMG on Sewell St in
Ashland, it became economically feasible for WSRO to go directional
using both of WKOX's old towers and increase its day and night power.
Langer filed for 1.5 kW-D and 60W-N, IIRC, using a fairly loose
pattern that sends the maximum signal to the east-northeast. Because
the pattern is not overly agressive, it should work even though the
towers are less than 45 degrees apart at 650.
It appears that that app has been languishing at the FCC and it's
possible that, despite the data in the WSRO app that shows no
prohibited overlap of 25 mV/m contours with WRKO during the daytime
(nighttime is clearly no problem; WSRO reduces its power and WRKO's
signal in the direction of Framingham drops WAY down at sunset), the
FCC wants more proof that there will be no interference. My question
is, what if Entercom were to acquire WSRO and run it as a simulcast of
WRKO at least at night? The 60W directional nighttime signal on 650
ought to cover both Framingham and Natick adequately. Indeed, given
WSRO's current post-sunset authority, WSRO ought to be able to run
much more than 60W-DA during the first hour after sunset in most
months and somewhat more than 60W-DA during the second hour after
sunset.
The brokered Portuguese programming could continue during daylight
hours when WRKO doesn't need any help in MetroWest. The 650 night
signal would more than equal the 850 nighttime signal in a significant
part of MetroWest.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Nelson"
To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; "Boston Radio Interest"
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: WEEI-FM 93.7
From scott@fybush.com Mon Sep 12 10:28:34 2011
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:28:34 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To:
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On 9/12/2011 9:56 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote:
> The brokered Portuguese programming could continue during daylight
> hours when WRKO doesn't need any help in MetroWest. The 650 night
> signal would more than equal the 850 nighttime signal in a significant
> part of MetroWest.
I don't think "THE Talk Station, AM 680...except at night in Framingham
and parts of Natick, where you might be able to hear us on 650 if the
Opry music out of Nashville's not too loud" accomplishes much of
anything toward retaining the image of WRKO as a major full-market
player. (And can you imagine Howie making fun of it on the air?)
I stand by my assessment of the competitive virtues of 850 vs. 680 for
full-market coverage. I don't disagree with Dan and Bob that 680 is
stronger than 850 to the north and south - but that's a difference of
degree; both 850 and 680 are at least usable to the edges of the Boston
Arbitron market in those directions. But to the west, it's not just a
difference of degree, it's a question of whether the signal exists at all.
There's a LOT of MetroWest out there, and right now it disappears
completely from WRKO's potential audience at 4:30 or so in the afternoon
come December. A 60-watt 650 night signal, if one were to be built,
might fill a small piece of that hole in Framingham or Natick, but
wouldn't do enough to be useful anywhere else in MetroWest, even if you
could overcome the logistical issues of getting listeners to set buttons
for both 650 and 680 and to know to switch them at the right time (but
no earlier, lest they be blasted with Portuguese-language religion!)
s
From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Sep 12 10:28:43 2011
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:28:43 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To:
References: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com>
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Certainly WRKO gets to reach some of metro west with Howie being
carried on WCRN, Currently WRKO follows Howie with syndicated Michael
Savage, Jerry Doyle, and Red Eye Radio overnight. Perhaps they figure
they do fine by day with the morning drive and midday shows; Howie's
output suffers with
earlier sunsets but WCRN is there, and maybe they figure when it comes
to post 7 pm until morning
drive, why bother. Morning and PM drive matters. Of course this could
be one reason why the ratings are lackluster as they are no doubt
averages of all time slots. But the 650 idea could work.
When WCRN picked up Howie's show, the thought was to a) help out in
Metro West, and b) when the
Red Sox aired primarily on WRKO, 680 was obligated to carry the
pregame show (often 6:30- 7 pm
and now it's actually more like 6-7 pm). WCRN didn't do the pregame
show. Howie told his listeners to tune to WCRN to catch the rest of
his show, and to this day he still will wind up telling his listeners
to tune to WCRN once the sun goes down.
> My question
> is, what if Entercom were to acquire WSRO and run it as a simulcast of
> WRKO at least at night?
From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Sep 12 10:35:27 2011
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:35:27 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <5254C5A24B6B486EAABE478AB1A66738@SatU205S5044>
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>
> AFAIK. the 107.3 stick is on
> the Channel 27 tower on Stiles Hill (which I believe is in Hudson, but
> I could be wrong).
The ch 27 (RF 29) tower is the big one just north of I-290 in Boylston.
WAAF is licensed to Westborough, but that still won't make their
signal any better in Natick. I think what they were really trying to do
was improve their signal in the more densely populated areas instead
of wasting RF power in the western part of the state. They would
like to move WSRS too, except that would create problems with
adjacent channel WATD.
-Bob
From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Sep 12 10:39:24 2011
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:39:24 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To:
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Clarification (obvious but unstated) WSRS is Clear Channel,
WAAF is Entercom. Poor use of pronoun "they".
-Bob
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Bob DeMattia wrote:
> AFAIK. the 107.3 stick is on
>> the Channel 27 tower on Stiles Hill (which I believe is in Hudson, but
>> I could be wrong).
>
>
>
> The ch 27 (RF 29) tower is the big one just north of I-290 in Boylston.
> WAAF is licensed to Westborough, but that still won't make their
> signal any better in Natick. I think what they were really trying to do
> was improve their signal in the more densely populated areas instead
> of wasting RF power in the western part of the state. They would
> like to move WSRS too, except that would create problems with
> adjacent channel WATD.
>
>
> -Bob
>
>
From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Sep 12 10:37:16 2011
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:37:16 -0400
Subject: No HD signal on 107.9 this morning
Message-ID:
It seems WXKS's HD transmitter is down.
-Bob
From scott@fybush.com Mon Sep 12 11:49:12 2011
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:49:12 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To:
References: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com>
<4E6E1712.7040507@fybush.com>
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On 9/12/2011 11:35 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote:
> Scott, you seem to be forgetting that, at night, Framingham and Natick
> are smack in the middle of WEEI's null. I don't know the NIF values for
> either WEEI of WRKO, but I suspect that WEEI's is higher than WRKO's. I
> would be surprised if any of Natick were inside of WEEI's NIF contour.
> WEEI suffers from bad phasing along that path as well, making listening
> unpleasant. Also, WEEI has never been aggressive about getting WYLF to
> operate according to the terms of its license. I'm assuming that WYLF
> continues to operate illegally, despite at least one warning (and maybe
> a fine) from the FCC. If WYLF running at its full daytime power is
> factored in, I'm just about positive that WEEI's real NIF is higher than
> WRKO's.
WYLF is one of my nearly-locals. They've been behaving themselves of late.
Yes, Framingham and Natick are in a WEEI null - but it's a fairly mild
null. Using Framingham's 01702 zip, V-Soft.com reports that WEEI puts
4.07 mV/m there at night. That's a far cry from WEEI's daytime 20 mv/m
there, of course, but it's much, much better than WRKO's 1.99 mV/m,
especially now that CKVL is gone from 850, while WRKO must continue to
fight WPTF and CFTR and everything else making noise on 680.
I suspect also that the ground conductivity between Needham and
Framingham is somewhat higher than the FCC's maps suggest; in real-world
listening at night at our Moderator's abode near the Framingham/Natick
line in the years since CKVL went away, I've found WEEI to be solidly
listenable while WRKO is at best unpleasant and at worst nonexistent.
> BTW, although neither WEEI nor WRKO puts an interference-free nighttime
> signal into Marlborough, FWIW, WRKO delivers the stronger nighttime
> signal there. That is because WRKO directs a slightly stronger
> inverse-distance field toward Marlborough than WEEI does and the
> attenuation vs distance is less at 680 than it is at 850. Between
> Needham and the east side of Marlborough, however, WEEI's nighttime
> signal is indeed stronger than WRKO's.
By the time you get out to Marlborough, neither WEEI nor WRKO is
anything close to useful at night. V-soft reports 1.01 mV/m for 680 at
night in zip 01752, against 0.78 mV/m for 850. I'd hazard a pretty good
guess that other real-world factors render that difference
indistinguishable...and make neither signal especially usable.
Entercom's best AM at night in Marlborough is WVEI, but at 1.23 mV/m,
it's probably not especially listenable, either.
s
From billohno@gmail.com Mon Sep 12 11:51:40 2011
From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill (billohno@gmail.com))
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:51:40 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com>
References: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <4E6E2A8C.8020302@gmail.com>
On 9/12/2011 8:47 AM, Bob Nelson wrote:
> By the way WEEI covers much of New England with their "network". WBZ-FM has a very good signal at 98.5
> but you wonder if they may consider doing the same thing.
Not to nitpick on that but WEEI has no Vermont coverage. (Not sure how
they cover NH or Upper Valley). I'm not sure why since there is _still_
a solid Sox base here (despite the pesky Yankee fans across the lake
working their way here into the Champlain Valley ;-O For the most
part, Vermont is a solid base for Boston sports. But, the entire state
(less tourists and illegal, er, I mean, undocumented workers) is only
about 600k pop.
Bill O'Neill
From scott@fybush.com Mon Sep 12 12:04:14 2011
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:04:14 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <4E6E2A8C.8020302@gmail.com>
References: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com> <4E6E2A8C.8020302@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E6E2D7E.7080103@fybush.com>
On 9/12/2011 11:51 AM, Bill O'Neill (billohno@gmail.com) wrote:
> Not to nitpick on that but WEEI has no Vermont coverage. (Not sure how
> they cover NH or Upper Valley). I'm not sure why since there is _still_
> a solid Sox base here (despite the pesky Yankee fans across the lake
> working their way here into the Champlain Valley ;-O For the most part,
> Vermont is a solid base for Boston sports. But, the entire state (less
> tourists and illegal, er, I mean, undocumented workers) is only about
> 600k pop.
It's not for lack of trying. I know Entercom has made approaches to just
about every potential affiliate in Vermont, but word is that the cost of
affiliation is pretty high.
There's one WEEI signal that serves a corner of VT: WEEY 93.5 Keene can
be heard in and around Brattleboro. Doesn't do much up there in the
Champlain Valley, alas...
s
From billohno@gmail.com Mon Sep 12 12:07:26 2011
From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill (billohno@gmail.com))
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:07:26 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <4E6E2D7E.7080103@fybush.com>
References: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com> <4E6E2A8C.8020302@gmail.com>
<4E6E2D7E.7080103@fybush.com>
Message-ID: <4E6E2E3E.6090503@gmail.com>
On 9/12/2011 12:04 PM, Scott Fybush wrote:
> It's not for lack of trying. I know Entercom has made approaches to
> just about every potential affiliate in Vermont, but word is that the
> cost of affiliation is pretty high.
>
Would it be more cost-effective for Entercom to acquire a Vermont signal
outright? I can't imagine the dollars being anything remotely what they
are used to tossing about in other markets (even in austere times).
Bill O.
From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Sep 12 11:35:17 2011
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:35:17 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
References: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com>
<4E6E1712.7040507@fybush.com>
Message-ID:
Scott, you seem to be forgetting that, at night, Framingham and Natick
are smack in the middle of WEEI's null. I don't know the NIF values
for either WEEI of WRKO, but I suspect that WEEI's is higher than
WRKO's. I would be surprised if any of Natick were inside of WEEI's
NIF contour. WEEI suffers from bad phasing along that path as well,
making listening unpleasant. Also, WEEI has never been aggressive
about getting WYLF to operate according to the terms of its license.
I'm assuming that WYLF continues to operate illegally, despite at
least one warning (and maybe a fine) from the FCC. If WYLF running at
its full daytime power is factored in, I'm just about positive that
WEEI's real NIF is higher than WRKO's.
BTW, although neither WEEI nor WRKO puts an interference-free
nighttime signal into Marlborough, FWIW, WRKO delivers the stronger
nighttime signal there. That is because WRKO directs a slightly
stronger inverse-distance field toward Marlborough than WEEI does and
the attenuation vs distance is less at 680 than it is at 850. Between
Needham and the east side of Marlborough, however, WEEI's nighttime
signal is indeed stronger than WRKO's.
-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Fybush"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: WEEI-FM 93.7
> On 9/12/2011 9:56 AM, Dan.Strassberg wrote:
>
>> The brokered Portuguese programming could continue during daylight
>> hours when WRKO doesn't need any help in MetroWest. The 650 night
>> signal would more than equal the 850 nighttime signal in a
>> significant
>> part of MetroWest.
>
> I don't think "THE Talk Station, AM 680...except at night in
> Framingham and parts of Natick, where you might be able to hear us
> on 650 if the Opry music out of Nashville's not too loud"
> accomplishes much of anything toward retaining the image of WRKO as
> a major full-market player. (And can you imagine Howie making fun of
> it on the air?)
>
> I stand by my assessment of the competitive virtues of 850 vs. 680
> for full-market coverage. I don't disagree with Dan and Bob that 680
> is stronger than 850 to the north and south - but that's a
> difference of degree; both 850 and 680 are at least usable to the
> edges of the Boston Arbitron market in those directions. But to the
> west, it's not just a difference of degree, it's a question of
> whether the signal exists at all.
>
> There's a LOT of MetroWest out there, and right now it disappears
> completely from WRKO's potential audience at 4:30 or so in the
> afternoon come December. A 60-watt 650 night signal, if one were to
> be built, might fill a small piece of that hole in Framingham or
> Natick, but wouldn't do enough to be useful anywhere else in
> MetroWest, even if you could overcome the logistical issues of
> getting listeners to set buttons for both 650 and 680 and to know to
> switch them at the right time (but no earlier, lest they be blasted
> with Portuguese-language religion!)
>
> s
From scott@fybush.com Mon Sep 12 12:19:49 2011
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:19:49 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <4E6E2E3E.6090503@gmail.com>
References: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com>
<4E6E2A8C.8020302@gmail.com> <4E6E2D7E.7080103@fybush.com>
<4E6E2E3E.6090503@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E6E3125.4000809@fybush.com>
On 9/12/2011 12:07 PM, Bill O'Neill (billohno@gmail.com) wrote:
> On 9/12/2011 12:04 PM, Scott Fybush wrote:
>> It's not for lack of trying. I know Entercom has made approaches to
>> just about every potential affiliate in Vermont, but word is that the
>> cost of affiliation is pretty high.
>>
> Would it be more cost-effective for Entercom to acquire a Vermont signal
> outright? I can't imagine the dollars being anything remotely what they
> are used to tossing about in other markets (even in austere times).
The dollars are small, but so is the return on investment, especially
for the sort of small standalone AM most likely to end up in the WEEI fold.
Entercom has become a much larger market player; hard to imagine the
corporate office wanting to bother with the low six figures in revenue
they MIGHT be able to pull out of an AM in Montpelier or Bennington or
White River Junction, especially when they're already getting most of
that revenue just by offering up the Sox network affiliation at night.
s
From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Sep 12 12:37:56 2011
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:37:56 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <4E6E3125.4000809@fybush.com>
References: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com> <4E6E2A8C.8020302@gmail.com>
<4E6E2D7E.7080103@fybush.com> <4E6E2E3E.6090503@gmail.com>
<4E6E3125.4000809@fybush.com>
Message-ID:
WEEI is still broadcasting on WAAF/WKAF HD2, though on the noon hour, the
legal ID
only covered WEEI and WMKK.
-Bob
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Scott Fybush wrote:
> On 9/12/2011 12:07 PM, Bill O'Neill (billohno@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> On 9/12/2011 12:04 PM, Scott Fybush wrote:
>>
>>> It's not for lack of trying. I know Entercom has made approaches to
>>> just about every potential affiliate in Vermont, but word is that the
>>> cost of affiliation is pretty high.
>>>
>>> Would it be more cost-effective for Entercom to acquire a Vermont signal
>> outright? I can't imagine the dollars being anything remotely what they
>> are used to tossing about in other markets (even in austere times).
>>
>
> The dollars are small, but so is the return on investment, especially for
> the sort of small standalone AM most likely to end up in the WEEI fold.
>
> Entercom has become a much larger market player; hard to imagine the
> corporate office wanting to bother with the low six figures in revenue they
> MIGHT be able to pull out of an AM in Montpelier or Bennington or White
> River Junction, especially when they're already getting most of that revenue
> just by offering up the Sox network affiliation at night.
>
> s
>
From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Sep 12 12:40:06 2011
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:40:06 -0400
Subject: No HD signal on 107.9 this morning
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
The HD signal came back around noon, though WXKS-FM HD2 is carrying Glenn
Beck,
rather than being a simulcast of WXKS 1200. This being the case, the AM
signal
is still announcing that WXKS-FM HD2 is the FM home of talk 1200.
-Bob
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Bob DeMattia wrote:
> It seems WXKS's HD transmitter is down.
>
> -Bob
>
>
From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 11:03:07 2011
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:03:07 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
References: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com>
Message-ID:
> Certainly WRKO gets to reach some of metro west with Howie being
> carried on WCRN.
Outside of outright buying it, WRKO Should purchase/lease time on WCRN from
3PM onward until the next morning.
Daytime the signal is fine...it's after sunset the signal suffers...and WCRN
fills in that gap nicely.
With Howie and the evening hours simulcast, there is complete coverage.
At least that's the way I see it. Problem solved.
I'm not sure WCRN makes any money after Howie Carr's show anyway....
From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Sep 12 12:52:17 2011
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:52:17 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To:
References: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com>
Message-ID:
> Outside of outright buying it, WRKO Should purchase/lease time on WCRN
from 3PM onward until the next morning.
I would assume WCRN is paying WRKO for Howie Carr. Why
would WRKO want it the other way around?
If they wanted to cover Metrowest better, wouldn't they have just bought
1060 when
it was available?
-Bob
From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Sep 12 13:20:24 2011
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:20:24 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <20110912033704.210580@gmx.com>
References: <20110912033704.210580@gmx.com>
Message-ID:
By the way when I was quoting Mark S/Bos Radio Watch talking about
WEEI getting interference, he meant from the 860 in Toronto,
splashover, not from the now defunct 850 in Montreal. Apologies on my
misconstruing what he said (he said a French lang station, that's it)
From bob.bosra@demattia.net Mon Sep 12 13:44:53 2011
From: bob.bosra@demattia.net (Bob DeMattia)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:44:53 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To:
References: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com>
Message-ID:
> WRKO could keep all spot revenue, combine the ratings, seel ALL the
spots...and control the station without worrying about the Carter gang.
Entercom would (should) only do this if:
(Spot Revenue) - (lease time for WCRN) > (current WCRN payment)
Carter would only do this if:
(lease for WCRN) > (Spot Revenue) - (current WCRN payment)
The lease may have some sort of performance based aspect, or it may not, but
I would guess
that the lease income is smaller but more predictable than the spot revenue.
It's also a lot
easier for Entercom to cut off WCRN if they aren't paying their bill than
chasing after several
advertisers that haven't been paying.
The major wrench in the machine is Howie Carr, who is likely going to leave
as soon as he
can. Given the uncertainty of this, if I were Entercom, and I was happy
with the existing
set up, I'd leave well enough alone.
-Bob
>
From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 13:26:24 2011
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:26:24 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
References: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com>
Message-ID:
>> Outside of outright buying it, WRKO Should purchase/lease time on WCRN
> from 3PM onward until the next morning.
>
> I would assume WCRN is paying WRKO for Howie Carr. Why
> would WRKO want it the other way around?
Depends who's keeping the dollars from spot revenue.
WRKO could keep all spot revenue, combine the ratings, seel ALL the
spots...and control the station without worrying about the Carter gang.
From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 14:00:03 2011
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:00:03 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
References: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <0C3C15552EE848579381F4190588B6D9@s20035>
> Carter would only do this if:
>
> (lease for WCRN) > (Spot Revenue) - (current WCRN payment)
Or if Carter is tired of crapily running their crapipy litle station and
want to recoup the money spent on their upgrade, before the bottom falls out
of the market for AM stations.
And so the carters can spend more time in Boca.
From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Sep 12 14:13:53 2011
From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:13:53 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
References: <20110912124757.210560@gmx.com>
Message-ID:
> Carter would only do this if:
Also, Carter is an operator that made his fortune selling blocks of time,
informercials and PI programming.
From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Sep 12 15:34:44 2011
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:34:44 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
Message-ID: <20110912193444.210580@gmx.com>
Supposedly All Access said that in the most recent ratings, Mike 93.7 had its best book ever...it showed up at #7
(from #11) in P 18-34, tying it with WAAF...good ratings and billing but they needed a spot for WEEI and this tended
to cover a good amount of the area, with the sister stations doing well out west and south.
Some Mike 93.7 fans are complaining about the switch (on facebook) and saying they'll miss the station that played "everything".
Well, there are a lot of types of music out there, not just rock/rap/pop; they may have blended some genres
but I notice the music mix was tending to stick to tried and true rock/rap favorites, many of the same artists who
show up on other stations. (Yes, you had all of these on ONE station though). No longer did I hear unexpected
tracks by artists like Dean Martin, Garth Brooks, etc.
We play...everything? Maybe I wasn't tuned in when they were playing "Got My Mojo Workin'" by Muddy Waters,
"Well Did You Evah" by Frank and Bing, "Take Five" by Dave Brubeck, "Clarinet Solo In A Major" written by Mozart, or "Lily the Pink" by the Irish Rovers.
But...I thought they played everything?
From marklaurence@mac.com Mon Sep 12 16:27:34 2011
From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:27:34 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <20110912193444.210580@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <052d8a16-1e89-ec34-9fd3-807e267fc20d@me.com>
On Sep 12, 2011, at 03:34 PM, Bob Nelson wrote:
> Supposedly All Access said that in the most recent ratings, Mike 93.7 had its best book ever
They did have a nice spike in August, but Mike was doing much better in both 25-54 and 6+ during most of 2009. In fact, every single week from February through August 2009 was higher in average quarter hour audience than the 4 most recent weeks.
As for 18-34 persons, Mike's peak numbers were in mid-2010. In fact, during 2009 and 2010, 16 out of 24 months were equal or better than their August 2011 AQH number.
Mark?
From marklaurence@mac.com Mon Sep 12 16:27:40 2011
From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:27:40 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <20110912193444.210580@gmx.com>
Message-ID:
On Sep 12, 2011, at 03:34 PM, Bob Nelson wrote:
> Supposedly All Access said that in the most recent ratings, Mike 93.7 had its best book ever
They did have a nice spike in August, but Mike was doing much better in both 25-54 and 6+ during most of 2009. In fact, every single week from February through August 2009 was higher in average quarter hour audience than the 4 most recent weeks.
As for 18-34 persons, Mike's peak numbers were in mid-2010. In fact, during 2009 and 2010, 16 out of 24 months were equal or better than their August 2011 AQH number.
Mark?
From martinjwaters@yahoo.com Tue Sep 13 00:35:56 2011
From: martinjwaters@yahoo.com (Martin Waters)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:35:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
Message-ID: <1315888556.55257.YahooMailClassic@web112111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
>Dan Strassberg wrote:>WRKO has a better signal than WEEI almost everywhere and is local in
>areas like southern NH and nearly all of Cape Cod that WEEI can only
>wish to cover. The only exception is in MetroWest at night, where the
>advantage goes to WEEI, but by less than a huge amount.???? Absolutely. I was surprised to see Scott's original comment. WRKO?has the best
Boston AM signal over much of the Cape, day and night. But, then again, I was never all that impressed with the?signal improvement over most of the Arbitron region when they moved sports from 590 to 850 -- especially with?Montreal on 850?back then. The main difference?is that 590 is a total loss in Metro?West day and night. From decades of driving back and forth on the Mass Pike, IMO, neither WRKO nor WEEI has a usable signal by?a couple hours after sunset much west of the eastbund rest area in Natick.???? Debating which station?has a better signal in Metro West at night is sort of like asking someone to choose that bucket over there containing one quart of warm spit or that other bucket containing one-quarter of a gallon of warm spit. Or . . . try the third bucket, containing 32 ounces of warm spit --?and it's available 24/7.
:))????? Meanwhile, this history major wonders how the heck?WEZE / 590 and WTAG,?both on-air around the mid-20's, ended up on first-adjacent channels, anyhow. That's always seemed ridiculous to me. Back when frequency assignments were getting sorted out, IIRC, there were no nearby stations on 550, 560 (Philadelphia was closest) or 620, and 600 was in Bridgeport.?
From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Sep 13 06:30:03 2011
From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 06:30:03 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
References: <1315888556.55257.YahooMailClassic@web112111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID:
The WEZE/WTAG situation is not all that uncommon. Look at WMCA and
WFIL. Granted, the distance between them is more like 90 miles than 30
something but the soil conductivity in central New Jersey is way
better than that in the area we have now come to know and love as
MetroWest. Another similar situation (no longer exists) is 1150 in
Milwaukee (moved to 1130 maybe 50 years ago) and 1160 in Chicago. They
were first-adjacent for decades in an area of excellent soil
conductivity and the then-WJJD was 50 kW-D for much of that time. I
have not mentioned KYW/WEPN because I don't know whether that pair
being first adjaceent predates NARBA as do WTAG/WEZE and WMCA/WFIL.
-----
Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net)
eFax 1-707-215-6367
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Waters"
To: "Dan.Strassberg" ; "Scott Fybush"
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:35 AM
Subject: RE: WEEI-FM 93.7
>Dan Strassberg wrote:>WRKO has a better signal than WEEI almost
>everywhere and is local in
>areas like southern NH and nearly all of Cape Cod that WEEI can only
>wish to cover. The only exception is in MetroWest at night, where the
>advantage goes to WEEI, but by less than a huge amount. Absolutely. I
>was surprised to see Scott's original comment. WRKO has the best
Boston AM signal over much of the Cape, day and night. But, then
again, I was never all that impressed with the signal improvement over
most of the Arbitron region when they moved sports from 590 to 850 --
especially with Montreal on 850 back then. The main difference is that
590 is a total loss in Metro West day and night. From decades of
driving back and forth on the Mass Pike, IMO, neither WRKO nor WEEI
has a usable signal by a couple hours after sunset much west of the
eastbund rest area in Natick. Debating which station has a better
signal in Metro West at night is sort of like asking someone to choose
that bucket over there containing one quart of warm spit or that other
bucket containing one-quarter of a gallon of warm spit. Or . . . try
the third bucket, containing 32 ounces of warm spit -- and it's
available 24/7.
:)) Meanwhile, this history major wonders how the heck WEZE / 590 and
WTAG, both on-air around the mid-20's, ended up on first-adjacent
channels, anyhow. That's always seemed ridiculous to me. Back when
frequency assignments were getting sorted out, IIRC, there were no
nearby stations on 550, 560 (Philadelphia was closest) or 620, and 600
was in Bridgeport.
From kvahey@gmail.com Tue Sep 13 10:35:45 2011
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:35:45 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To:
References: <1315888556.55257.YahooMailClassic@web112111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID:
Tonight will mark the return of Red Sox games to 93.7 after over 40 years.
The Sox put games there to help Curt Gowdy promote his new FM station.
From vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net Tue Sep 13 09:32:11 2011
From: vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net (=?utf-8?b?RG91ZyBEcm93bg==?=)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:32:11 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
Message-ID: <20110913093211.88i8r299ckcc4c8c@webmail.myfairpoint.net>
Personally, I'm not sure WRKO will survive once Howie leaves (and it's
a pretty sure bet that he will). ?Also, WCRN, despite its
"Worcester-Boston" ID, is pretty Worcester-oriented, giving WTAG
(which, IMHO, is a shell of its once-proud self) a run for its money.
?I doubt that Carter would want to walk away from that. ?-Doug
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:26:24 -0400, Don wrote:
>
> >> Outside of outright buying it, WRKO Should purchase/lease time on WCRN
> > from 3PM onward until the next morning.
> >
> > I would assume WCRN is paying WRKO for Howie Carr. Why
> > would WRKO want it the other way around?
>
> Depends who's keeping the dollars from spot revenue.
>
> WRKO could keep all spot revenue, combine the ratings, seel ALL the
> spots...and control the station without worrying about the Carter
> gang.
>
>
>
From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Sep 13 10:57:03 2011
From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:57:03 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
Message-ID: <20110913145703.210570@gmx.com>
Interesting--never knew they had been on 93.7. What I remember is the days of The Rock Garden followed by Blue Suede Radio (they used to air it over the loudspeakers of the now defunct Bldg 19 in Lynn where I worked in the
early 80s). That was interesting that the Sox helped Curt in that way.
I wonder if WBOQ will be forced to drop Sox games next year what with the 93.7 carrying games? Or will Entercom
keep them on, pocketing affiliation fee. I'd think all of the North Shore can get 93.7 just fine. (And by the way when Ent. mentioned the various areas that can pick up 93.7, they said things like "Merrimack Valley" but not North
Shore--as in, from Winthrop to Ipswich, Nahant to Danvers, Beverly to Gloucester, and slightly inland areas
like Reading, Wakefield, etc. Definitely include "North Shore"...)
Jim Cutler's promos on 93.7 say "93.7 WEEI on FM." I don't know when the WEEI-FM calls take effect but no
doubt he says it this way because saying WEEI-FM would constitute a legal ID.
I did hear a bit of Jason Smith, ESPN all night...uptempo delivery, humor, sports highlights etc. Some are saying not everyone would be into ESPN talk shows, but certainly if Entercom doesn't want local talk past midnight, ESPN
is not bad to run.
Many people who were Mike FM fans are on facebook complaining about the change; "we don't need another
sports station". Actually it's a simulcast of one that already exists. I suppose they could hope Entercom might
put Mike on 97.7 but I doubt that'll happen despite Mike making money for them. (But as Dennis Miller would say, "That's just my opinion--hey, I could be wrong"). They need 97.7 to relay WAAF, which makes them money. If
Ent. doesn't put Mike there you wonder if another company might consider a Mike-like format, but whom?
(Prob. not Clear Channel who do fine with Kiss and Jam'n)
--Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Vahey
Sent: 09/13/11 10:35 AM
To: Dan.Strassberg
Subject: Re: WEEI-FM 93.7
Tonight will mark the return of Red Sox games to 93.7 after over 40 years. The Sox put games there to help Curt Gowdy promote his new FM station.
From vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net Tue Sep 13 11:24:55 2011
From: vzeej5wn@myfairpoint.net (=?utf-8?b?RG91ZyBEcm93bg==?=)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:24:55 -0400
Subject: Life's Little Ironies (was: WEEI-FM 93.7)
Message-ID: <20110913112455.cz129g1uj8oocwck@webmail.myfairpoint.net>
Entercom's WEEI-FM, 93.5 . . . Of course, that's not the ORIGINAL
WEEI-FM, which is now WODS-FM, which is owned by CBS, which owns WBZ-FM
98.5, which was originally WRKO-FM, owned by RKO General along with
WRKO, which is owned by Entercom. ?WBZ-FM is, of course, not to be
confused with the ORIGINAL WBZ-FM 106.7, now WMJX, owned by Greater
Media, which also owns WROR, whose call letters were assigned to 98.5
when it was RKO General decided to change them from WRKO-FM.
Everyone clear on that? ?;-) ? ? ? -Doug
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:57:03 -0400, Bob Nelson wrote:
Interesting--never knew they had been on 93.7. What I remember is the
days of The Rock Garden followed by Blue Suede Radio (they used to air
it over the loudspeakers of the now defunct Bldg 19 in Lynn where I
worked in the
> early 80s). That was interesting that the Sox helped Curt in that way.
>
> I wonder if WBOQ will be forced to drop Sox games next year what
> with the 93.7 carrying games? Or will Entercom
> keep them on, pocketing affiliation fee. I'd think all of the North
> Shore can get 93.7 just fine. (And by the way when Ent. mentioned the
> various areas that can pick up 93.7, they said things like "Merrimack
> Valley" but not North
> Shore--as in, from Winthrop to Ipswich, Nahant to Danvers, Beverly
> to Gloucester, and slightly inland areas
> like Reading, Wakefield, etc. Definitely include "North Shore"...)
>
> Jim Cutler's promos on 93.7 say "93.7 WEEI on FM." I don't know when
> the WEEI-FM calls take effect but no
> doubt he says it this way because saying WEEI-FM would constitute a
> legal ID.
>
> I did hear a bit of Jason Smith, ESPN all night...uptempo delivery,
> humor, sports highlights etc. Some are saying not everyone would be
> into ESPN talk shows, but certainly if Entercom doesn't want local
> talk past midnight, ESPN
> is not bad to run.
>
> Many people who were Mike FM fans are on facebook complaining about
> the change; "we don't need another
> sports station". Actually it's a simulcast of one that already
> exists. I suppose they could hope Entercom might
> put Mike on 97.7 but I doubt that'll happen despite Mike making
> money for them. (But as Dennis Miller would say, "That's just my
> opinion--hey, I could be wrong"). They need 97.7 to relay WAAF, which
> makes them money. If
> Ent. doesn't put Mike there you wonder if another company might
> consider a Mike-like format, but whom?
> (Prob. not Clear Channel who do fine with Kiss and Jam'n)
>
> --Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Vahey
> Sent: 09/13/11 10:35 AM
> To: Dan.Strassberg
> Subject: Re: WEEI-FM 93.7
>
> Tonight will mark the return of Red Sox games to 93.7 after over 40
> years. The Sox put games there to help Curt Gowdy promote his new FM
> station.
>
>
From ssmyth@psualum.com Tue Sep 13 11:36:26 2011
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:36:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
In-Reply-To: <20110913145703.210570@gmx.com>
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Bob Nelson writes:?
> I did hear a bit of Jason Smith, ESPN all night...uptempo delivery, humor, sports highlights etc.?
> Some are saying not everyone would be into ESPN talk shows, but certainly if Entercom doesn't?
> want local talk past midnight, ESPN?is not bad to run.
The problem with WEEI dropping Fox was that J.T. The Brick's show was about as local as you can?
get for "syndicated." Probably half the callers were from WEEI.
> Ent. doesn't put Mike there you wonder if another company might consider a Mike-like format,?
> but whom??(Prob. not Clear Channel who do fine with Kiss and Jam'n)
Seems like the obvious answer would be WBOS. They've been relatively stable for a couple years
now, but in the past 92.9 reinvented itself every 16 months or so, it seems.
From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Sep 13 12:40:37 2011
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:40:37 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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Agreed on both...I'm not sure but there are "Frank" stations on the
Cape and in Nashua NH...I don't know if they're more classic hits than
variety hits and they may well have DJs, but some may find them of
interest.
Scanning dial while on Cape and the Frank stations were playing C.W.
McCall's Convoy, one of those
"you never know what you'll hear next" type of songs.
> The problem with WEEI dropping Fox was that J.T. The Brick's show was about as local as you can
> get for "syndicated." Probably half the callers were from WEEI.
Seems like the obvious answer would be WBOS. They've been relatively
stable for a couple years
> now, but in the past 92.9 reinvented itself every 16 months or so, it seems.
>
>
From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Sep 13 12:43:49 2011
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:43:49 -0400
Subject: Life's Little Ironies (was: WEEI-FM 93.7)
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Confused yet? You won't be after this next episode of "Soap". Yes good
point about GM owning 106.7 the former WBZ-FM; CBS owning 98.5 the
former WRKO-FM...and GM with WROR, etc
Suppose Entercom had owned a fourth FM station in town...suppose they
owned something like WBOS 92.9. If they did perhaps they could have
put "Mike" there, but imagine--again, IF they had owned 92.9--them
putting a simulcast of (or move of) WRKO there. WRKO-FM, everybody! :)
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Doug Drown wrote:
> Entercom's WEEI-FM, 93.5 . . . Of course, that's not the ORIGINAL WEEI-FM,
> which is now WODS-FM, which is owned by CBS, which owns WBZ-FM 98.5, which
> was originally WRKO-FM, owned by RKO General along with WRKO, which is owned
> by Entercom. ?WBZ-FM is, of course, not to be confused with the ORIGINAL
> WBZ-FM 106.7, now WMJX, owned by Greater Media, which also owns WROR, whose
> call letters were assigned to 98.5 when it was RKO General decided to change
> them from WRKO-FM.
> Everyone clear on that? ?;-) ? ? ? -Doug
From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Sep 13 12:46:59 2011
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:46:59 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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Thanks for that info...radio-locator.com (not nec. accurate) was
listing the 106.3 from Nashua as classic hits, I know that, and from
their webpage it looked like they did indeed have jocks....
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Jeff Lehmann wrote:
> The Frank stations up north, including 106.3 are classic hits, with DJs. Frank on the cape is variety hits, like Mike was, with no DJs.
From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Sep 13 12:45:25 2011
From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:45:25 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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The Frank stations up north, including 106.3 are classic hits, with DJs. Frank on the cape is variety hits, like Mike was, with no DJs.
Jeff Lehmann
On Sep 13, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Bob Nelson wrote:
> Agreed on both...I'm not sure but there are "Frank" stations on the
> Cape and in Nashua NH...I don't know if they're more classic hits than
> variety hits and they may well have DJs, but some may find them of
> interest.
> Scanning dial while on Cape and the Frank stations were playing C.W.
> McCall's Convoy, one of those
> "you never know what you'll hear next" type of songs.
>
>> The problem with WEEI dropping Fox was that J.T. The Brick's show was about as local as you can
>> get for "syndicated." Probably half the callers were from WEEI.
>
> Seems like the obvious answer would be WBOS. They've been relatively
> stable for a couple years
>> now, but in the past 92.9 reinvented itself every 16 months or so, it seems.
>>
>>
From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Sep 13 15:41:21 2011
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:41:21 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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On 9/13/2011 10:35 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
> Tonight will mark the return of Red Sox games to 93.7 after over 40 years.
> The Sox put games there to help Curt Gowdy promote his new FM station.
As of last night, 93.7 was still WMKK. Do we know whether or when the
call letters will change?
--
A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468
92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com
From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Sep 13 16:57:43 2011
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:57:43 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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On 9/13/2011 4:49 PM, Sid Schweiger wrote:
> "As of last night, 93.7 was still WMKK. Do we know whether or when the call letters will change?"
>
> I'm told it will be the middle of next week.
Is there another WEEI-FM somewhere that has to change? If so, what is
it changing to?
--
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92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com
From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Tue Sep 13 18:01:09 2011
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:01:09 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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103.7 Westerly, RI is WEEI-FM and will be changing.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:57 PM, A. Joseph Ross wrote:
> On 9/13/2011 4:49 PM, Sid Schweiger wrote:
>
>> "As of last night, 93.7 was still WMKK. Do we know whether or when the
>> call letters will change?"
>>
>> I'm told it will be the middle of next week.
>>
>
> Is there another WEEI-FM somewhere that has to change? If so, what is it
> changing to?
>
> --
> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468
> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856
> Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com
>
>
From sid@wrko.com Tue Sep 13 18:30:08 2011
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:30:08 +0000
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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It goes like this:
WVEI-FM becomes WWEI.
WEEI-FM becomes WVEI-FM.
WMKK becomes WEEI-FM.
________________________________________
From: A. Joseph Ross [joe@attorneyross.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:57 PM
To: Sid Schweiger
Cc: boston-radio-interest@lists.BostonRadio.org
Subject: Re: WEEI-FM 93.7
On 9/13/2011 4:49 PM, Sid Schweiger wrote:
> "As of last night, 93.7 was still WMKK. Do we know whether or when the call letters will change?"
>
> I'm told it will be the middle of next week.
Is there another WEEI-FM somewhere that has to change? If so, what is
it changing to?
--
A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468
92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856
Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com
From dave@skywaves.net Tue Sep 13 18:05:25 2011
From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:05:25 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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WEEI-FM is an Entercom station licensed to Westerly, RI. Its transmitter is
about halfway between Westerly and Providence, and it pretty much serves the
whole state of RI.
> Is there another WEEI-FM somewhere that has to change? If so, what is it
> changing to?
From m_carney@yahoo.com Tue Sep 13 19:06:47 2011
From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:06:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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Caught the Sox pregame show in the car tonight. John Rish was encouraging anyone listening on 850 to switch to 93.7. They also had Larry Lucchino on to congratulate them and he called it Mike FM!
From billohno@gmail.com Tue Sep 13 20:06:23 2011
From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill (billohno@gmail.com))
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:06:23 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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On 9/13/2011 6:30 PM, Sid Schweiger wrote:
> It goes like this:
>
> WVEI-FM becomes WWEI.
> WEEI-FM becomes WVEI-FM.
> WMKK becomes WEEI-FM.
>
And it all goes back to Boston Edison Electric Illuminating Company at
that 5kW at 590 kHz down at the left end of the dial....
Bill O'Neill
From billohno@gmail.com Tue Sep 13 20:11:47 2011
From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill (billohno@gmail.com))
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:11:47 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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On 9/13/2011 7:06 PM, Maureen Carney wrote:
> Caught the Sox pregame show in the car tonight. John Rish was encouraging anyone listening on 850 to switch to 93.7. They also had Larry Lucchino on to congratulate them and he called it Mike FM!
It makes you wonder if one can underestimate the impact of the flip to
93.7 and what has really just happened to the station at 850? Oddly, it
brings back some of those memories of the day that WHDH Radio died.
Bill O'Neill
From sid@wrko.com Tue Sep 13 16:49:43 2011
From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:49:43 +0000
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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"As of last night, 93.7 was still WMKK. Do we know whether or when the call letters will change?"
I'm told it will be the middle of next week.
Sid Schweiger
IT Manager, Entercom New England
20 Guest St / 3d Floor
Brighton MA 02135-2040
From scott@fybush.com Tue Sep 13 21:33:33 2011
From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:33:33 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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On 9/13/2011 4:49 PM, Sid Schweiger wrote:
> "As of last night, 93.7 was still WMKK. Do we know whether or when the call letters will change?"
>
> I'm told it will be the middle of next week.
I will be in town the 18th-21st...hope I get to hear the new IDs before
I leave!
s
From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Sep 13 23:48:12 2011
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:48:12 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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On 9/13/2011 7:06 PM, Maureen Carney wrote:
> Caught the Sox pregame show in the car tonight. John Rish was encouraging anyone listening on 850 to switch to 93.7. They also had Larry Lucchino on to congratulate them and he called it Mike FM!
If they're going to change the call letters, why keep calling it Mike FM?
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From rbello@belloassoc.com Tue Sep 13 23:24:48 2011
From: rbello@belloassoc.com (Ron Bello)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:24:48 -0400
Subject: Almost impossible for the average person to buy a HD Radio
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Drove from Cape Cod to Fenway late this afternoon.
93.7 came in stereo clearly from exit 2 on route 3 on the southern end of
Plymouth all the way to Fenway Park including through the concrete valley of
the medical area.
For those of us who live and work in MetroWest, it is a game changer.
For example, if I try to listen to a Celtics game on the way home from work
(Speen St @ route 30) in Framingham the start is painful but grows
unbearable as one travels south on route 27 in Natick. By the time I arrive
home (just off route 16) in Natick fugetaboutit. My location is only 4-5
miles west of the WEEI transmitter location.
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
> 93.7 blankets Southern NH and York County in Maine. AM will be better on
> the
> south shore but there 103.7 kicks in.
> On Sep 10, 2011 6:11 PM, "Martin Waters" wrote:
> >>A. Joseph Ross wrote:
> >> I'd guess there must be some places where the AM signal is the better
> signal.
> >>--- And . . . On Sat, 9/10/11, Don wrote:
> >>I can't imagine
> > where! How about anywhere east of the FM antennas' horizon -- great
> for the fishing fleet :)) But . . . serioiusly . . . what about parts
> of
> N.H.? No?
>
From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Sep 13 23:47:31 2011
From: joe@attorneyross.com (A Joseph Ross)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:47:31 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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On 9/13/2011 6:30 PM, Sid Schweiger wrote:
> It goes like this:
>
> WVEI-FM becomes WWEI.
> WEEI-FM becomes WVEI-FM.
> WMKK becomes WEEI-FM.
Why not have a WEEY?
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From walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com Wed Sep 14 00:50:27 2011
From: walkerbroadcasting@gmail.com (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:50:27 -0500
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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There already is a WEEY, serving Brattleboro and Keene.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:47 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote:
> On 9/13/2011 6:30 PM, Sid Schweiger wrote:
>
> It goes like this:
>>
>> WVEI-FM becomes WWEI.
>> WEEI-FM becomes WVEI-FM.
>> WMKK becomes WEEI-FM.
>>
>
> Why not have a WEEY?
>
>
> --
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> 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax: 617.507.7856
> Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com
>
>
From paul@derrynh.net Wed Sep 14 00:12:00 2011
From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:12:00 -0400
Subject: Frank FM
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106.3 Nashua NH and 107.5 Lewiston/Portland ME are both Nassau Franks and
they have the SAME rotation of songs, but not a SIMULCAST, though I think
they have some DJs that do both stations and straddle the live sections
between songs
I can pick up both fairly well here in Epping (Nassau's 106.3 Scarborough
does not interfere here).....I always wondered why Nassau doesn't simply
flip 107.5 and 106.3 so BOTH Franks (Nashua and the Portland market) could
be 106.3 Frank FM...
Both are Classic Hits (as were 99.1 Henniker/104.9 Wolfeboro back when they
were branded Frank).
-Paul Hopfgarten
-Epping NH (an area where EEI on 93.7 is like having a NEW sports station,
850 kind of rough around here, and JUST out of reach of 95.9 Saco)
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Lehmann
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:45 PM
To: Bob Nelson
Cc: Boston Radio Interest
Subject: Re: WEEI-FM 93.7
The Frank stations up north, including 106.3 are classic hits, with DJs.
Frank on the cape is variety hits, like Mike was, with no DJs.
Jeff Lehmann
On Sep 13, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Bob Nelson wrote:
> Agreed on both...I'm not sure but there are "Frank" stations on the
> Cape and in Nashua NH...I don't know if they're more classic hits than
> variety hits and they may well have DJs, but some may find them of
> interest.
> Scanning dial while on Cape and the Frank stations were playing C.W.
> McCall's Convoy, one of those
> "you never know what you'll hear next" type of songs.
>
>> The problem with WEEI dropping Fox was that J.T. The Brick's show was
>> about as local as you can
>> get for "syndicated." Probably half the callers were from WEEI.
>
> Seems like the obvious answer would be WBOS. They've been relatively
> stable for a couple years
>> now, but in the past 92.9 reinvented itself every 16 months or so, it
>> seems.
>>
>>
From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Sep 13 23:53:57 2011
From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:53:57 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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On Sep 13, 2011, at 11:48 PM, A Joseph Ross wrote:
>
> If they're going to change the call letters, why keep calling it Mike FM?
Inertia?
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH
From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Sep 14 01:01:21 2011
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 01:01:21 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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Now will they start mixing the games in stereo?
From kvahey@gmail.com Wed Sep 14 10:33:44 2011
From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:33:44 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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WEEI logo with both 93.7 and 850 on monster last night...first time EEI had
ad there..that tells me Red Sox are thrilled with move.
From mariogonz@aol.com Wed Sep 14 10:38:41 2011
From: mariogonz@aol.com (Mario Gonzalez)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:38:41 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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I was listening to part of the Red Sox game last night (over the
internet). Joe and Dave were very happy to be on FM. They were playing
classical music at the beginnings of the innings and talking about
"Classic Hits" -- the hits that the Red Sox were making in the game last
night. They also asked listeners to text them about how they felt about
the new FM signal. Many were texting from central NH. Someone even
suggested that they sing a song every night with one being on the left
channel and the other being on the right channel.
Mario
On 9/14/2011 10:33 AM, Kevin Vahey wrote:
> WEEI logo with both 93.7 and 850 on monster last night...first time EEI had
> ad there..that tells me Red Sox are thrilled with move.
From mamros@mit.edu Wed Sep 14 10:31:50 2011
From: mamros@mit.edu (Shawn Mamros)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:31:50 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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>> Caught the Sox pregame show in the car tonight. John Rish was encouraging
>> anyone listening on 850 to switch to 93.7. They also had Larry Lucchino on
>> to congratulate them and he called it Mike FM!
>
>If they're going to change the call letters, why keep calling it Mike FM?
Probably just a slip of the tongue on Larry's part. Wouldn't it be
ironic if Larry had been a Mike FM listener? (Of course, even if
he were, I'm sure he'd still be glad to give it up in order for the Sox
to be on FM...)
-Shawn
From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Sep 14 11:57:35 2011
From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:57:35 -0400
Subject: WEEI-FM 93.7
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I did hear the mention of the logo on the Green Monster and the Red
Sox are def. thrilled with the move.
Suppose it's 2016; Entercom's contract is to expire, and Red Sox
flagship is 850. No local FM presence.
Red Sox are presented with offers by Entercom and CBS, similar money,
maybe even slightly more
offered by CBS. CBS has a power FM sports talker as a flagship. Do the
Sox choose CBS or go with
the guys who have a lousy AM signal for a flagship? Yeah, we'll keep
Entercom, with a signal that
misses many people. Don't you love the whistle and the whine in the
background..the static during
thunderstorms..the directional signal... (I'm sure at that point
Entercom would have told the Sox,
we can put you on an FM in Boston, to help them with their decision...)
Many people from NH said they could pick up 93.7 just fine which I
don't doubt. One text message I
did kinda doubt was from E. Longmeadow..."FM sounds great". Well,
maybe they were listening
to them on 105.5 but could someone there pick up 93.7 from the Peabody
stick? Wouldn't they get
WZMX Hartford on 93.7 instead? The question was "how do the Sox sound
on FM", maybe not necessarily "how do they sound on 93.7". What was
interesting was they made it sound like Sox were on FM
for the first time, anywhere. In metro Boston, with 93.7, yes, but
just about all of the WEEI network
stations have been running Sox on FM for some time now. (I don't know
if those were in mono and
93.7 now has stereo or not...)
I had suggested awhile back that maybe they could keep the Mike format
and simply run Sox games.
They may have figured it would be kind of schizophrenic; that Mike
listeners would be upset at
having these 4 hour interruptions of the music.
WEEI should have done this back in 05 or 06, easily (came in great at
my workplace last night).
Or how about this: what was the date of Sports Hub debut, Aug. 13 of
2009 I think? The news
was out several weeks before the switch. Entercom could have scooped
them. "WEEI on FM,
93.7...starts August 8!"
--Bob
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Shawn Mamros wrote:
>>> Caught the Sox pregame show in the car tonight. John Rish was encouraging
>>> anyone listening on 850 to switch to 93.7. They also had Larry Lucchino on
>>> to congratulate them and he called it Mike FM!
>>
>>If they're going to change the call letters, why keep calling it Mike FM?
>
> Probably just a slip of the tongue on Larry's part. ?Wouldn't it be
> ironic if Larry had been a Mike FM listener? ?(Of course, even if
> he were, I'm sure he'd still be glad to give it up in order for the Sox
> to be on FM...)
>
> -Shawn
>
From ssmyth@psualum.com Wed Sep 14 11:12:32 2011
From: ssmyth@psualum.com (Sean Smyth)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:12:32 -0700 (PDT)
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