From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 1 00:23:20 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Jun 1 01:10:30 2005 Subject: Lydon In-Reply-To: <023d01c56604$b3085fe0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <429CFFF8.14473.10B6362@localhost> On 31 May 2005 at 13:17, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > Anyone catch Lydon's first show either last night on GBH or this > morning on WUML? I did, but I had a lot of trouble figuring out what the point was. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Wed Jun 1 01:42:18 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Wed Jun 1 01:45:04 2005 Subject: Lydon References: <429CFFF8.14473.10B6362@localhost> Message-ID: <016f01c5666c$d4018e20$1404fea9@xyz> > > Anyone catch Lydon's first show either last night on GBH or this > > morning on WUML? > > I did, but I had a lot of trouble figuring out what the point was. Same here. I'm not sure I get the whole point of "open source" as a radio program. OK, you can send ideas and comments about the show to the show. Yes, they weblog the show...and you can download it as an MP3 file podcast. But, in the end...it has to be a decent radio show. Seems like an awful lot of "geek talk", and self importance. Maybe after they settle down from their "launch", they will start devoting more programs to a single topic (a topic that isn't about themselves!) I also didn't realize that the show is not going to be on Friday Nights. $150k/yr for 4 one hour radio shows a week? I don't get it. From fox893@yahoo.com Wed Jun 1 06:32:31 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Wed Jun 1 06:32:28 2005 Subject: Allen Weiner at it again.... Message-ID: <20050601103231.6643.qmail@web54602.mail.yahoo.com> www.spacetransmissions.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From radiotony@comcast.net Wed Jun 1 06:32:44 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Wed Jun 1 06:32:43 2005 Subject: Lydon References: <429CFFF8.14473.10B6362@localhost> <016f01c5666c$d4018e20$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <002b01c56695$3faf23d0$6600a8c0@tony> I didn't listen to the show myself but I did read about the first show and I find the concept pretty fascinating in the sense that the technology has advance so fast that there is now a show like this as well as the fact that I am a writing and a broadcaster. Lydon's price tag does seem a bit high; but the concept is revolutionary in the sense that a lot of programming could potentially be digitized like this. Blogs as sources of opinion is no different than callers as sources of opinion. They only difference is that the process is more anonymous since you can't hear the person talking. Best, Anthony Schinella News Director/A&E Host at WKXL 1450 Celebrating Concord, N.H. & the Capital Region with thoughtful community radio http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Pappalardo To: A. Joseph Ross ; Bill O'Neill ; Garrett Wollman Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Lydon > > Anyone catch Lydon's first show either last night on GBH or this > > morning on WUML? > > I did, but I had a lot of trouble figuring out what the point was. Same here. I'm not sure I get the whole point of "open source" as a radio program. OK, you can send ideas and comments about the show to the show. Yes, they weblog the show...and you can download it as an MP3 file podcast. But, in the end...it has to be a decent radio show. Seems like an awful lot of "geek talk", and self importance. Maybe after they settle down from their "launch", they will start devoting more programs to a single topic (a topic that isn't about themselves!) I also didn't realize that the show is not going to be on Friday Nights. $150k/yr for 4 one hour radio shows a week? I don't get it. From rogerkola@aol.com Wed Jun 1 08:22:57 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Wed Jun 1 08:22:09 2005 Subject: Allen Weiner at it again.... References: <20050601103231.6643.qmail@web54602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001001c566a4$a4f645c0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> At least he didn't have to move offshore to start this venture...BTW, WBCQ is a good listen as is Dishnuts.net. The 5 Mhz Frequency does well in the Boston area. Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Fox" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:32 AM Subject: Allen Weiner at it again.... > > www.spacetransmissions.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Jun 2 11:22:36 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Jun 2 11:22:48 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio Message-ID: <1fbbbced05060208221c7e33e2@mail.gmail.com> OK let's see: WRKO is affiliated with both ABC and FoxNews, I believe; WBZ has CBS and ABC, and WTKK has CNN and I believe "NBC NewsRadio". In some cases their top-hour newscasts are totally local, with some actualities from the networks. In others, they have a network newscast plus local... I understand that Fox News is now rolling out a full 5 minute TOH newscast. I wonder if WRKO will pick it up at certain hours of the day, or will they do ABC (followed by local headlines)? On WBZ in the evenings they do a local newscast but starting at midnight they have CBS for a few minutes, then local news/sports/weather (with the talk program starting about 6 or 7 minutes past---the sports and weather segments are short. So much to fit into so little time!) WTKK does local newscasts during the day but from 7 pm on it's just CNN, with no local content afterwards and we've mentioned before that it's a weakness on their part. Those curious about local stories will have to turn to WRKO or WBZ to get them. I don't listen to WKOXKS often but I believe they have Air America News at the top of the hour, and possibly some local content afterwards. I had read that Fox News made agreements to run on Clear Channel stations but since WRKO already has Fox, I'm guessing 1200/1430 run Air America TOH news. It's good to have both national and local 'casts at the top (and sometimes bottom) of the hour...or at least have some network news reporters used in actualities. Local content good; network content good; both, even better. Finally, I remember years ago that CBS would have extended newscasts at 6 pm ("The World Tonight") and I think 8 am as well. Do they still do this, and does WBZ carry them? From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Jun 2 12:05:15 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Jun 2 12:05:12 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced05060208221c7e33e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced05060208221c7e33e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17055.11835.962150.143686@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Finally, I remember years ago that CBS would have extended newscasts at 6 pm > ("The World Tonight") and I think 8 am as well. "CBS World News Roundup" -- I don't know if they're still doing it, but I suspect they are. The longer-form network newscasts were still pretty popular in rural areas as of a few years ago. Of course, if you consider our neighbor to the north, the "Canada at Five" and "The World at Six" have been CBC fixtures for many years. (Thirty years ago, the supper-time TV newscast on CBMT was called "The City at Six" ["weekdays at six, on channel six"].) Both programs run on both R1 (news and information) and R2 (classical), so they must be popular with some audience. I don't know if BN or other Canadian news services (if there are any left) do anything similar. -GAWollman From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Jun 2 12:06:41 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Jun 2 12:06:32 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <17055.11835.962150.143686@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <1fbbbced05060208221c7e33e2@mail.gmail.com> <17055.11835.962150.143686@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0506020906171f9e14@mail.gmail.com> Yes, and I remember WEEI 590, when they were news radio, running it. On 6/2/05, Garrett Wollman wrote: > "CBS World News Roundup" -- I don't know if they're still doing it, > but I suspect they are. The longer-form network newscasts were still > pretty popular in rural areas as of a few years ago. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Jun 2 12:07:03 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Jun 2 12:06:54 2005 Subject: WTTT Message-ID: <1fbbbced050602090724528a3f@mail.gmail.com> I was on the Free Republic messageboard and the name of talk host Hugh Hewitt came up. He's on WTTT 1150 locally. I don't really listen to WTTT, partly because their signal is on the weak side, and also because I already have choices like WRKO, WTKK, and WBZ, etc. They have all syndie conservatalk: Bill Bennett, Mike Gallagher, Dennis Praeger, Michael Medved, Hewitt, Dr. Laura, Michael Reagan. Once or twice I may dip into one of these shows while driving but that's usually during a commercial break when Howie's on 'RKO, etc. And I go back to Howie. Well, I've talked about the no-show that WKOXKS had in the last ratings book. Gotta admit that WTTT is also doing their impression of the Invisible Man. Is it due to weak signal or the "other choices" around? Quality of shows? Or do they subscribe to the ratings service? Sister station WEZE 590 does show up, if barely, in the ratings ("Christian Talk") so at least we know they subscribe. And keep in mind that the numbers I see online are 12 +. For all I know WTTT may show up in the 25-54 but I'm not an industry pro who has access to those! But I'm guessing that even though they didn't show up in the last 12 + book, WTTT, like 1200/1430, must have at least some income from advertising their all-syndicated lineup. Maybe they're breaking even at least... From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Jun 2 12:40:18 2005 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Jun 2 12:40:12 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio Message-ID: <200506021640.MAA11522@webmail4.cac.psu.edu> On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:05:15 +0000, Garrett Wollman wrote: > "CBS World News Roundup" -- I don't know if they're still doing it, > but I suspect they are. The longer-form network newscasts were still > pretty popular in rural areas as of a few years ago. We still get the roundup here on the local affiliate every morning at 8. I believe they have one later than the 6 p.m. mentioned, too (maybe 8?). From scott@fybush.com Thu Jun 2 12:29:25 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Jun 2 13:17:06 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced05060208221c7e33e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050602122834.033d2a58@gwind.pair.com> At 11:22 AM 6/2/2005 -0400, you wrote: >OK let's see: WRKO is affiliated with both ABC and FoxNews, I believe; WBZ has >CBS and ABC, and WTKK has CNN and I believe "NBC NewsRadio". In some cases >their top-hour newscasts are totally local, with some actualities from >the networks. In others, they have a network newscast plus local... I think WBZ still uses AP news audio as well. I know we did when I worked there, and I don't think it went away when the switch to CBS came along (at which point we got rid of the CNN service.) s From rickkelly@gmail.com Thu Jun 2 13:18:26 2005 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Thu Jun 2 13:19:22 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <200506021640.MAA11522@webmail4.cac.psu.edu> References: <200506021640.MAA11522@webmail4.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <521b7fd1050602101848f9a600@mail.gmail.com> On 6/2/05, Sean Smyth wrote: > We still get the roundup here on the local affiliate every morning at 8. I > believe they have one later than the 6 p.m. mentioned, too (maybe 8?). WHMP in Northampton, MA still runs the World News Roundup at 8am, CBS veteran Christopher Glen is still doing it after all these years. Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Jun 2 13:27:16 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Jun 2 13:27:08 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050602122834.033d2a58@gwind.pair.com> References: <1fbbbced05060208221c7e33e2@mail.gmail.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20050602122834.033d2a58@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <17055.16756.925464.598623@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I think WBZ still uses AP news audio as well. I know we did when I worked > there, and I don't think it went away when the switch to CBS came along (at > which point we got rid of the CNN service.) There's something going on with CBS vs. ABC at 'BZ. When there's a big national story, they tend to alternate between ABC and CBS; I wonder if it has to do with when "ABC News Special Report" gets fed versus "CBS News Update" and how that integrates with 'BZ's clock. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Thu Jun 2 13:53:45 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Jun 2 14:31:59 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <17055.16756.925464.598623@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20050602122834.033d2a58@gwind.pair.com> <1fbbbced05060208221c7e33e2@mail.gmail.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20050602122834.033d2a58@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050602133934.0886ea18@gwind.pair.com> At 01:27 PM 6/2/2005 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: >< said: > > > I think WBZ still uses AP news audio as well. I know we did when I worked > > there, and I don't think it went away when the switch to CBS came along > (at > > which point we got rid of the CNN service.) > >There's something going on with CBS vs. ABC at 'BZ. When there's a >big national story, they tend to alternate between ABC and CBS; I >wonder if it has to do with when "ABC News Special Report" gets fed >versus "CBS News Update" and how that integrates with 'BZ's clock. That may well be. Back in my day (geezer that I am :-), ABC did special reports at :30:30 past the hour, CBS at :31:00. I think the ABC :30:30's became a regular hourly service after 9/11, but I'm not certain... s From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Jun 2 17:08:57 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Jun 2 17:08:54 2005 Subject: LTAR This Sunday Message-ID: <20050602210857.67307E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Although Bob is now able to correspond with this list, he hasn't as yet spread the word here that there will be a "Let's Talk About Radio" session this Sunday June 5th from 11:00 am until Noon on WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge. This info was posted on the Boston board at radio-info.com...there's nothing yet on the Northern New England board about a WJTO airing, but if one occurs it's usually one or two weeks later at an earlier time of day. Yikes...I have to get some tickets at the Bostix kiosk at the same time...I'll be the person in line with a headset radio! -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From paulranderson@charter.net Thu Jun 2 20:59:39 2005 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Thu Jun 2 21:00:52 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <17055.11835.962150.143686@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <1fbbbced05060208221c7e33e2@mail.gmail.com> <17055.11835.962150.143686@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: On Jun 2, 2005, at 12:05 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > "CBS World News Roundup" -- I don't know if they're still doing it, > but I suspect they are. WTAG Worcester carries this at 8 AM. Paul From hykker@grolen.com Thu Jun 2 21:11:59 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Jun 2 22:08:21 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <17055.16756.925464.598623@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <1fbbbced05060208221c7e33e2@mail.gmail.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20050602122834.033d2a58@gwind.pair.com> <17055.16756.925464.598623@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050602211051.01c04588@pop3.grolen.com> .Garrett Wollman wrote: >There's something going on with CBS vs. ABC at 'BZ. When there's a >big national story, they tend to alternate between ABC and CBS; I >wonder if it has to do with when "ABC News Special Report" gets fed >versus "CBS News Update" and how that integrates with 'BZ's clock. Or perhaps contractually they are required to use a certain amount of ABC's coverage in order to keep Paul Harvey. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Jun 3 03:36:45 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Jun 3 03:36:36 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050602211051.01c04588@pop3.grolen.com> References: <1fbbbced05060208221c7e33e2@mail.gmail.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20050602122834.033d2a58@gwind.pair.com> <17055.16756.925464.598623@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <6.0.3.0.0.20050602211051.01c04588@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced05060300364b22359f@mail.gmail.com> WRKO did carry the "30:30" special reports after 9/11 for awhile...during the wars, the sniper crisis, etc. From rjoc@webtv.net Fri Jun 3 08:30:12 2005 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Fri Jun 3 09:01:34 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio Message-ID: <20050603123012.81127D683@smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net> The CBS World News RoundUp is still heard locally WDEA-1370 in Ellsworth, Maine every weekday morning at 8. It's also on at 6PM unless pre-empted by Red Sox Baseball. WDEA also features CBS News at the top of each hour. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Jun 3 09:13:17 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri Jun 3 10:09:11 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio References: <20050603123012.81127D683@smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <001401c5683e$04ed0370$6501a8c0@pastor2> I've never quite understood why the Infinity stations that are CBS affiliates (such as 'BZ and WTIC) aren't required to carry the hourly network newscasts. They're "CBS-owned," after all. Can someone explain? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod O'Connor" To: "Bob Nelson" Cc: Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:30 AM Subject: Re: Network newscasts on Boston radio > The CBS World News RoundUp is still heard locally WDEA-1370 in Ellsworth, Maine every weekday morning at 8. > > It's also on at 6PM unless pre-empted by Red Sox Baseball. > > WDEA also features CBS News at the top of each hour. > > Rod O'Connor > Southwest Harbor, Maine > > > > From tmw207@adelphia.net Fri Jun 3 10:42:19 2005 From: tmw207@adelphia.net (terry) Date: Fri Jun 3 11:24:31 2005 Subject: Bob Ellliot Message-ID: <000601c5684a$71fad620$1fa22146@family> Bob of Bob and Ray fame donates family home in Brooks Maine to historical society. see story from Bangor Daily News http://www.bangornews.com/news/templates/?a=114457 From wollman@csail.mit.edu Fri Jun 3 11:43:40 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Jun 3 11:43:36 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <001401c5683e$04ed0370$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <20050603123012.81127D683@smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net> <001401c5683e$04ed0370$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <17056.31404.815720.966224@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I've never quite understood why the Infinity stations that are CBS > affiliates (such as 'BZ and WTIC) aren't required to carry the hourly > network newscasts. They're "CBS-owned," after all. Can someone explain? The local spot time is more valuable than CBS branding. -GAWollman From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Jun 3 11:52:22 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri Jun 3 12:41:53 2005 Subject: WEEI and Metro Message-ID: <001501c56854$3b7cbfa0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Rumor mill has it that WEEI is trying to hire 2 full time sportscasters and 2 P/T sports people...does that mean Metro is out? Roger WA1KAT From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Jun 3 13:05:59 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:05:51 2005 Subject: BRW: 'BZ looks to land Celts Message-ID: <1fbbbced050603100548b580ba@mail.gmail.com> http://www.bostonradiowatch.com "...the selection process will continue for a little while longer as another major Boston radio station has jumped into the picture and is making a strong push to land C's package. The latest pursuer which is putting money on the table is Infinity's all-news/talk WBZ AM 1030." 'RKO's concerned with pre-emptions of its talk programming...and if the NHL ever rises from the dead, where will the Bruins land? From mamros@MIT.EDU Fri Jun 3 14:15:08 2005 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:15:10 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:43:40 EDT." <17056.31404.815720.966224@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <200506031815.j53IF8rp027474@mass-toolpike.mit.edu> Garrett wrote: >< said: >> I've never quite understood why the Infinity stations that are CBS >> affiliates (such as 'BZ and WTIC) aren't required to carry the hourly >> network newscasts. They're "CBS-owned," after all. Can someone explain? > >The local spot time is more valuable than CBS branding. And that reason no doubt trumps any other that I was going to write. :-) But I'll write them anyways... - 'BZ's news format predates their CBS ownership/affiliation by quite a few years. The old saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" could apply here. - From a standpoint of their being the only "all-news" headline radio service in town (during the daypart hours anyways), going with a local newscast makes sense. If it's a slow day on the national scene, but there's a truck jacknifed in the I-93 tunnels, doesn't it make more sense to lead the hour with that, rather than being forced to run the network newscast always? -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From francini@mac.com Fri Jun 3 14:30:02 2005 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:00:40 2005 Subject: WEEI and Metro In-Reply-To: <001501c56854$3b7cbfa0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <001501c56854$3b7cbfa0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <8a37e6adbbd517b7bbedea01e39e4021@mac.com> When do they use Metro instead of their own people for their sports flashes? john On Jun 3, 2005, at 11:52, Roger Kolakowski wrote: > Rumor mill has it that WEEI is trying to hire 2 full time > sportscasters and > 2 P/T sports people...does that mean Metro is out? > > Roger > WA1KAT > From fox893@yahoo.com Fri Jun 3 14:05:38 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:05:36 2005 Subject: WEEI and Metro In-Reply-To: <001501c56854$3b7cbfa0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <20050603180538.55863.qmail@web54608.mail.yahoo.com> There's actually an ad for this on allaccess.com right now --- Roger Kolakowski wrote: > Rumor mill has it that WEEI is trying to hire 2 full > time sportscasters and > 2 P/T sports people...does that mean Metro is out? > > Roger > WA1KAT > > Magic 104 North Conway, NH V: (603)356-8870 F: (603)356-8875 ***Commercial Production Demo at: http://cooperfox.voice123.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Fri Jun 3 14:34:34 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:10:01 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio References: <200506031815.j53IF8rp027474@mass-toolpike.mit.edu> Message-ID: <04ce01c5686b$16b6df40$1404fea9@xyz> > >> I've never quite understood why the Infinity stations that are CBS > >> affiliates (such as 'BZ and WTIC) aren't required to carry the hourly > >> network newscasts. They're "CBS-owned," after all. Can someone explain? Unlike the old heavy handed days of group ownership where edicts come down from above....I think todays management of the larger groups is quite different. >From what I hear, in the CBS/Infinity family, stations are allowed to implement the plan that works for them, in their market for their station. In Boston, I'm sure WBZ wants to lead at :00 and :30 with the stories in the order of importance for their audience, regardless of whether they are national or local stories. If the Story is about finding Whitey Bulger, or a new tunnel leak....then I'm sure WBZ doesn't want their audience to wait 5 (6 for CBS) minutes before they can air what is the top story for their audience. Secondly, why wait 2-2-1/2 minutes thru the network talking about wildfires in the midwest, when Gillette is being sold that afternoon. Network newscasts are good for stations that need them...but they are inefficient for stations that are in a competitive marketplace. If WBZ started running CBS news on the hour....I'm sure the PD of WRKO would re-invent his stations news department to have a much more compelling and credible live/local news at the top of each hour....about Romney, Billy Bulger, Whiteny, Tunnel leaks, CArdinal Law, Church Crisis, Doggie epidemic, crematorium news, auto insurance, etc, etc. every hour on the hour. $.02 From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Jun 3 17:30:40 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Jun 3 17:30:37 2005 Subject: "On The Media" Airs Fridays On WGBH-FM Message-ID: <20050603213040.C59543384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Because a five-day work week is too much for Chris Lydon's delicate physique, WGBH-FM is now airing "On the Media" Fridays at 7:00 pm (or actually after the 7:00 pm NPR news). This means that if you can't catch 'OtM' Sundays on either NHPR or WBUR Sundays, try checking it out on 89.7 (also 89.5 and soon 94.3). -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Jun 3 18:14:51 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri Jun 3 18:14:47 2005 Subject: "On The Media" Airs Fridays On WGBH-FM In-Reply-To: <20050603213040.C59543384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050603213040.C59543384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050603180709.02108268@mail.mac.com> At 05:30 PM 6/3/2005, Laurence Glavin wrote: >Because a five-day work week is too much for Chris Lydon's delicate >physique, WGBH-FM is now airing "On the Media" Fridays at 7:00 pm >(or actually after the 7:00 pm NPR news). This means that if you >can't catch 'OtM' Sundays on either NHPR or WBUR Sundays, try checking >it out on 89.7 (also 89.5 and soon 94.3). I don't know what they're smoking there at GBH? On the media is an interesting program to which I listen when I can. But, is this really what listeners want when they are starting to relax into the weekend on Friday evening? I think it is to their credit that WGBH is making this program available at another time for those who don't catch it on WBUR, NHPR, or Sirius, but I think their scheduling is wrong. They are just using it to plug a hole in their schedule, and not thinking things thru. As for what they should have on at that time, I think they should put Ron Della Chiessa's jazz show back at that time. Currently, due to the magic of voice tracking and/or old fashioned tape, RDC is airing opposite his own show on WPLM. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Fri Jun 3 19:13:53 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Fri Jun 3 19:13:52 2005 Subject: CBS-FM dumps the format Message-ID: <000701c56891$eb8cff80$0904050a@gmiboston.com> >From Radio & Records Online: " The company abandoned Oldies at legendary WCBS-FM/New York and WJMK/Chicago at 5pm ET today in favor of the radio industry's hot new format. WCBS PD Dave Logan and morning host Micky Dolenz both exited in the flip. New York listeners were delivered a jolt when the station introduced the format with Beastie Boys' "Fight for Your Right." However, WCBS' Oldies format will live on in cyberspace, as the website www.wcbsfm.com will carry the torch for the station's old programming. From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Jun 3 19:23:15 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri Jun 3 19:23:10 2005 Subject: CBS-FM dumps the format In-Reply-To: <000701c56891$eb8cff80$0904050a@gmiboston.com> References: <000701c56891$eb8cff80$0904050a@gmiboston.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050603192225.01f7db08@mail.mac.com> At 07:13 PM 6/3/2005, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >" The company abandoned Oldies at legendary WCBS-FM/New York and >WJMK/Chicago at 5pm ET today in favor of the radio industry's hot new >format. And that format is???? Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Jun 3 19:29:47 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri Jun 3 19:29:38 2005 Subject: CBS-FM dumps the format In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050603192225.01f7db08@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <200506032329.j53NTaIH016188@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> >And that format is???? Jack FM... Good thing 93.7 made the flip here, or I bet we would have 103.3 Jack FM right now. 104.3 in Chicago is also Jack FM now. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri Jun 3 19:57:57 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Fri Jun 3 19:55:18 2005 Subject: CBS-FM dumps the format In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050603192225.01f7db08@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <000a01c56898$11793140$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Larry asked of Chicago's WJMK: >> And that format is???? << The format WAS, like CBS-FM, Oldies. The morning guy was Paul Perry, late of WODS/WBZ/WHDH and Providence, too. - -Chuck (I prefer Monterey Jack) Igo From hykker@grolen.com Fri Jun 3 20:25:12 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Jun 3 20:23:39 2005 Subject: CBS-FM dumps the format In-Reply-To: <200506032329.j53NTaIH016188@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050603192225.01f7db08@mail.mac.com> <200506032329.j53NTaIH016188@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050603202356.01bdcec0@pop3.grolen.com> At 07:29 PM 6/3/2005, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > >And that format is???? > >Jack FM... Good thing 93.7 made the flip here, or I bet we would have 103.3 >Jack FM right now. 104.3 in Chicago is also Jack FM now. Maybe, maybe not. WODS is doing quite well in the ratings, WCBS's numbers had been in the tank for several years now. Dunno about the Chicago station. From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Jun 3 20:34:11 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri Jun 3 20:34:06 2005 Subject: CBS-FM dumps the format In-Reply-To: <200506032329.j53NTgrR020059@mac.com> References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050603192225.01f7db08@mail.mac.com> <200506032329.j53NTgrR020059@mac.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050603203237.01f96e58@mail.mac.com> At 07:29 PM 6/3/2005, Jeff Lehmann wrote: > >And that format is???? > >Jack FM... Good thing 93.7 made the flip here, or I bet we would have 103.3 >Jack FM right now. 104.3 in Chicago is also Jack FM now. Hey, it could be worse, it could have been Hurban! Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Fri Jun 3 23:09:53 2005 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Fri Jun 3 23:09:49 2005 Subject: CBS-FM dumps the format In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050603202356.01bdcec0@pop3.grolen.com> References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050603192225.01f7db08@mail.mac.com> <200506032329.j53NTaIH016188@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> <6.0.3.0.0.20050603202356.01bdcec0@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20050603230940.02c811e0@pop.gis.net> At 08:25 PM 6/3/2005, SteveOrdinetz wrote: >At 07:29 PM 6/3/2005, Jeff Lehmann wrote: >> >And that format is???? >> >>Jack FM... Good thing 93.7 made the flip here, or I bet we would have 103.3 >>Jack FM right now. 104.3 in Chicago is also Jack FM now. > > >Maybe, maybe not. WODS is doing quite well in the ratings, WCBS's numbers >had been in the tank for several years now. Dunno about the Chicago station. > Was it so long ago that WCBS-FM was one of the top billing stations in the country ? From Rogerkola@aol.com Sat Jun 4 08:26:16 2005 From: Rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sat Jun 4 08:26:04 2005 Subject: CBS-FM dumps the format References: <000701c56891$eb8cff80$0904050a@gmiboston.com> Message-ID: <001e01c56900$9b381eb0$203aff0a@Charlie> And this just 5 days after Harry Harrison thanked WCBS for allowing him to be interviewed live on WABC's traditional Memorial Day WABC Rewound mode....I wonder where he will go now? Maybe WABC will get the reverb unit out of the closet and go "rewound" for the summer beach season? Ahh the smell of Coppertone... Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Pappalardo" To: Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:13 PM Subject: CBS-FM dumps the format > >From Radio & Records Online: > > " The company abandoned Oldies at legendary WCBS-FM/New York and > WJMK/Chicago at 5pm ET today in favor of the radio industry's hot new > format. WCBS PD Dave Logan and morning host Micky Dolenz both exited in > the > flip. New York listeners were delivered a jolt when the station introduced > the format with Beastie Boys' "Fight for Your Right." However, WCBS' > Oldies > format will live on in cyberspace, as the website www.wcbsfm.com will > carry > the torch for the station's old programming. > > From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Jun 4 11:56:48 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Jun 4 12:02:18 2005 Subject: Paul Perry/WJMK in Chicago.... Message-ID: <030601c5691e$8b87df00$1404fea9@xyz> I didn't realize Paul perry was in Chicago at WJMK. (One of the CBS stations that has flipped to 'jack'.) >From his bio page: >> "Fresh from one of the most successful stations in the U.S., Boston's WODS, comes Paul Perry, the newest addition to the 104.3 - WJMK staff! Prior to his tenure at WODS, Paul hosted mornings for 8 years on oldies station, WWBB in Providence, Rhode Island. Paul has also been a talk radio host at outstanding stations such as WBZ in Boston & WHJJ in Providence. Paul's multifaceted career includes a television background having produced and hosted several shows like Evening Magazine on WBZ-TV and The Movie Loft on UPN-38 in Boston. He is a former radio station owner..." << Does anyone know what station he owned? JP From hykker@grolen.com Sat Jun 4 14:09:45 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Jun 4 14:08:10 2005 Subject: Paul Perry/WJMK in Chicago.... In-Reply-To: <030601c5691e$8b87df00$1404fea9@xyz> References: <030601c5691e$8b87df00$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050604140753.01c1f010@pop3.grolen.com> Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >I didn't realize Paul perry was in Chicago at WJMK. (One of the CBS >stations that has flipped to 'jack'.) > > >From his bio page: > > >> >"Fresh from one of the most successful stations in the U.S., Boston's WODS, >comes Paul Perry, the newest addition to the 104.3 - WJMK staff! Prior to >his tenure at WODS, Paul hosted mornings for 8 years on oldies station, WWBB >in Providence, Rhode Island. Paul has also been a talk radio host at >outstanding stations such as WBZ in Boston & WHJJ in Providence. Didn't he also work at the old (98.5) WROR? From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Jun 5 01:01:28 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Jun 5 01:48:20 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio In-Reply-To: <04ce01c5686b$16b6df40$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <42A24EE8.1863.41E7E3@localhost> On 3 Jun 2005 at 14:34, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > Unlike the old heavy handed days of group ownership where edicts come > down from above....I think todays management of the larger groups is > quite different. > > >From what I hear, in the CBS/Infinity family, stations are allowed to > implement the plan that works for them, in their market for their > station. This was not always the case. I've told this story before, but in January 1979, the day Ed King took office as governor, I was on the steps of the State House as outgoing governor Mike Dukakis made the traditional walk down the steps. I had a transistor radio in my pocket, with an earpiece in my ear, and it was tuned to WEEI, which was then the CBS affiliate in Boston. At noon, as Dukakis was walking down the stairs, WEEI cut away for the CBS network news. By the time the network news was over, Dukakis was heading down Beacon Street to the Fanuel Hall Marketplace area, where there was to be a reception at the Agean Fair, a Greek restaurant that then existed there. The crowd around the State House was dispersing. And on returning from the CBS network news, WEEI said that Governor Dukakis was "about to" make his walk down the State House steps, and they pretended that they were covering it live. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sun Jun 5 02:27:02 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sun Jun 5 02:59:44 2005 Subject: Network newscasts on Boston radio References: <42A24EE8.1863.41E7E3@localhost> Message-ID: <002901c56997$98f07200$1404fea9@xyz> > > Unlike the old heavy handed days of group ownership where edicts come > > down from above....I think todays management of the larger groups is > > quite different. > > This was not always the case. I've told this story before, but in January 1979, the day Ed > King took office as governor,[snip] > At noon, as Dukakis was walking down the stairs, WEEI cut away for the CBS network > news. Yes, the heavy handed days of "You better cut to the network...or they'll be a memo from New York!" From markwats@comcast.net Sun Jun 5 16:16:43 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Jun 5 16:16:42 2005 Subject: Boston Globe Article On WNNW Lawrence Message-ID: <001301c56a0b$80277060$6f918318@Mark> Sunday's (6/5) Boston Globe has an article about WNNW (800 Lawrence) and owner Costa-Eagle's plans to capture more of the Latino audience after WLLH & WAMG flip from Spanish to ESPN Sports soon. The article mentions how they are planning on taking their popular morning show on the road to such places as Lowell, Jamaica Plain & Salem NH, and that they are hoping to get a power increase that will enable them to be heard as far south as Plymouth. Currently they are 1000 watts ND by day, 244 watts ND at night. Can they get a power increase without adding additional towers? Wouldn't they have to protect WLAD in Danbury CT? Wouldn't they still have to drop power at night to protect CKLW & the 800 in Montreal? (calls escape me at the moment). And wouldn't WSKO at 790 in Providence be a problem as well? Maybe Dan Strassberg can chime in with his take on how they can increase power. Article also mentions that co-owned WCCM (1490 Haverhill) recently added Spanish programming from 12 Midnight to 6 AM daily. Reading between the lines, could more Spanish programming end up on 1490? Here's a link to the article on line. Please note the Globe usually moves articles to the archives within a day or so of appearing on the web site: http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/06/05/making_waves_in_spanish/ Mark Watson From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jun 5 18:02:49 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Jun 5 18:03:25 2005 Subject: Boston Globe Article On WNNW Lawrence References: <001301c56a0b$80277060$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <001801c56a1a$64904e80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> As long as WNNW remains on 800, I think any power increase is a pipe dream. With 790 in Providence, I suspect that any change of any consequence would necessitate a REDUCTION in the signal to the south. Of course, if Costa wants to buy the Providence station and power it down or take it dark... Or maybe Costa proposes to outbid Barry Armstrong for the LMA of WPLM (AM). Or maybe Costa plans to make Alex Langer or the receiver for WBIX an offer that can't be refused. Or Costa could buy or LMA WWZN. I think that about covers the options. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Watson" To: "Boston Radio" Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: Boston Globe Article On WNNW Lawrence > Sunday's (6/5) Boston Globe has an article about WNNW (800 Lawrence) and > owner Costa-Eagle's plans to capture more of the Latino audience after WLLH > & WAMG flip from Spanish to ESPN Sports soon. The article mentions how they > are planning on taking their popular morning show on the road to such places > as Lowell, Jamaica Plain & Salem NH, and that they are hoping to get a power > increase that will enable them to be heard as far south as Plymouth. > Currently they are 1000 watts ND by day, 244 watts ND at night. Can they get > a power increase without adding additional towers? Wouldn't they have to > protect WLAD in Danbury CT? Wouldn't they still have to drop power at night > to protect CKLW & the 800 in Montreal? (calls escape me at the moment). And > wouldn't WSKO at 790 in Providence be a problem as well? Maybe Dan > Strassberg can chime in with his take on how they can increase power. > > Article also mentions that co-owned WCCM (1490 Haverhill) recently added > Spanish programming from 12 Midnight to 6 AM daily. Reading between the > lines, could more Spanish programming end up on 1490? > > Here's a link to the article on line. Please note the Globe usually moves > articles to the archives within a day or so of appearing on the web site: > http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/06/05/making_wa ves_in_spanish/ > > Mark Watson > > From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sun Jun 5 18:31:06 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sun Jun 5 18:32:58 2005 Subject: Boston Globe Article On WNNW Lawrence References: <001301c56a0b$80277060$6f918318@Mark> <001801c56a1a$64904e80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <035d01c56a1e$45477040$1404fea9@xyz> > As long as WNNW remains on 800, I think any power increase is a pipe dream. I worked at another of the now Costa-Eagle stations, 1110AM, a million years ago. It was a daytimer, and that was always a drawback, to listerners, programming staff, salespeople, advertisers, and the city fathers. (It was hard to do no school snowstaorm announcements when the station signs on at 7:15AM!) I can't count how many times I heard, "Well, we're working on going full time!". Or, We're going to be fulltime sometime soon!" Guess what? As of this day, almost 30 years after they signed on, it is still a daytimer. (Outside of when they forget to power down at the end of the day.) ;-) I don't know if managers who spout these unrealistic dreams are clueless, or just trying to put the best face on a inferior situation. I always thought 800AM, the station Costa spoke about, had a pretty good signal. Their night signal covers Lawrence area pretty well, especially in the downtown area, where the bulk (if not all) of the hispanics live. They're hoping for a signal that covers to PLYMOUTH? From nostaticatall@comcast.net Sun Jun 5 19:54:46 2005 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Sun Jun 5 19:54:43 2005 Subject: CBS-FM dumps the format In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050603202356.01bdcec0@pop3.grolen.com> References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050603192225.01f7db08@mail.mac.com> <200506032329.j53NTaIH016188@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> <6.0.3.0.0.20050603202356.01bdcec0@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <20d4093ac6dba3c7dbdaa917f8ad76fd@comcast.net> WCBS-FM came in eighth 12+ at last check. They were hardly "tanking" in the ratings. Of course, if you're talking about 25-54, where the money is, then you'd be right. Like many oldies stations, their billing has been stagnant or declining for the last several years. Once the station parted ways with legendary personalities like Harry Harrison and Dan Ingram, there wasn't much left to save. They tried "younging up" the format to include 70's and some eighties, but the younger demos never came to the party and the core audience resisted the changes. In LA, Infinity switched it's classic rocker to Jack awhile ago, and the result is that sister oldies station KRTH has taken the bulk of the ratings hit. That's why they switched their oldies stations in New York and Chicago to Jack, as opposed to putting the format on another frequency and watching CBS-FM and WJMK die slow, painful deaths. Like it or not, Jack is the new "oldies" format that traditional oldies couldn't evolve into. Eventually, I think Jack will need jocks, but I firmly believe this format is not a fad. People thought that Hot AC and Alternative were "fad formats" in the early 90's but they wound up becoming mainstays in most markets. If "MIke" doesn't get it's act together, it won't work, but the real Jack stations do. Despite the existence of WMKK, II wouldn't be too shocked if WODS went Jack, but my guess is that unless the billing there is really bad, it won't happen anytime soon. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Jun 3, 2005, at 8:25 PM, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > At 07:29 PM 6/3/2005, Jeff Lehmann wrote: >> >And that format is???? >> >> Jack FM... Good thing 93.7 made the flip here, or I bet we would have >> 103.3 >> Jack FM right now. 104.3 in Chicago is also Jack FM now. > > > Maybe, maybe not. WODS is doing quite well in the ratings, WCBS's > numbers had been in the tank for several years now. Dunno about the > Chicago station. > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Tue Jun 7 13:41:30 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Jun 7 13:41:22 2005 Subject: Globe: (sports talkers) Following the Money Trail Message-ID: <1fbbbced05060710413e94ff8f@mail.gmail.com> Globe may require you register to read (free): http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/articles/2005/06/07/following_the_money_trail/ "These days, however, there's a migration back to radio, with two stations -- WEEI and WWZN -- on the air, a third on the way (ESPN Radio on 890 and 1400 AM), and speculation that an FM station in the market may test the sports talk format. "Well-known TV personalities such as John Dennis, Sean McDonough, Dale Arnold, Bob Neumeier, and Michael Holley :all made the move to radio." (me again): an FM station may test sports talk? Whom? How many sports talk stations could Boston support, anyway? I could see having WEEI with local and Fox content and maybe a station doing a blend of ESPN and Sporting News Radio, maybe local shows as well (and indeed we're hearing ESPN 890 and 1400 are hoping to do local content) From Rogerkola@aol.com Tue Jun 7 14:55:48 2005 From: Rogerkola@aol.com (Rogerkola) Date: Tue Jun 7 14:55:52 2005 Subject: Globe: (sports talkers) Following the Money Trail References: <1fbbbced05060710413e94ff8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000d01c56b92$854a6650$6823a8c0@Sales2> the website www.bugmenot.com provides passwords for many of the newspaper sites so that you don't have to make up information to access them.... Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:41 PM Subject: Globe: (sports talkers) Following the Money Trail > Globe may require you register to read (free): > > http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/articles/2005/06/07/following_the_money_trail/ > From fox893@yahoo.com Tue Jun 7 17:13:08 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Tue Jun 7 17:13:04 2005 Subject: CCU dumps maine station Message-ID: <20050607211308.42577.qmail@web54602.mail.yahoo.com> from allaccess.com: CLEAR CHANNEL is selling another small station, spinning WNSX/WINTER HARBOR, ME to MARK OSBORNE's STONY CREEK BROADCASTING for $800,000. Why do I know the name Mark Osbourne? Anyone have any idea as to what he is going to do with the station? Last thing I heard about that was that CCU was once again simulcasting The Fox on it... Magic 104 North Conway, NH V: (603)356-8870 F: (603)356-8875 ***Commercial Production Demo at: http://cooperfox.voice123.com __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html From sid.whitaker@unh.edu Tue Jun 7 17:55:49 2005 From: sid.whitaker@unh.edu (Sid Whitaker) Date: Tue Jun 7 17:56:08 2005 Subject: CCU dumps maine station In-Reply-To: <20050607211308.42577.qmail@web54602.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050607211308.42577.qmail@web54602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050607175549.13psci8heogcc4oo@webmail.unh.edu> IIRC Osborne was the one-time owner of WKSQ Ellsworth. IIRC again, the WNSX CP changed hands about 10 years ago for $40k. (not sure from who to who.) If true though, $40k to $800k in 10 years is not a bad return. Sid Quoting Cooper Fox : > from allaccess.com: > > CLEAR CHANNEL is selling another small station, > spinning WNSX/WINTER HARBOR, ME to MARK OSBORNE's > STONY CREEK BROADCASTING for $800,000. > > > Why do I know the name Mark Osbourne? Anyone have any > idea as to what he is going to do with the station? > Last thing I heard about that was that CCU was once > again simulcasting The Fox on it... > > > Magic 104 > North Conway, NH > V: (603)356-8870 > F: (603)356-8875 > ***Commercial Production Demo at: > http://cooperfox.voice123.com > > > > __________________________________ > Discover Yahoo! > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html > From markwats@comcast.net Tue Jun 7 22:14:42 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue Jun 7 22:14:39 2005 Subject: Interesting DX Catches Tonight Message-ID: <000501c56bcf$d6fca110$6f918318@Mark> On my way home tonight (about 9:40 PM), some interesting DX catches on the AM band on the car radio driving through Lowell. Interesting as these catches were on graveyard frequencies, loud and dominant to nab ID's on 2 of the 3 catches. Confirmed: WWSC (1450) Glens Falls NY, WWCO (1240) Waterbury CT. Unconfirmed: heard Red Sox baseball on 1340, checking the affiliate list on the Sox web site the only station listed on 1340 is WSTJ St. Johnsbury VT. Also caught on 1340 was a Yankees game, the Yankees affiliate list on the WCBS radio web site shows these stations on 1340: WBRK Pittsfield MA, WENT Gloversville NY WALL Middletown NY, WIRY Plattsburgh NY and WWPA Williamsport PA. Mark Watson From fox893@yahoo.com Wed Jun 8 04:30:06 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Wed Jun 8 04:30:03 2005 Subject: CCU dumps maine station In-Reply-To: <20050607175549.13psci8heogcc4oo@webmail.unh.edu> Message-ID: <20050608083006.42280.qmail@web54602.mail.yahoo.com> What's the coverage area for WNSX? Rod, maybe you can help us out with this one... --- Sid Whitaker wrote: > IIRC Osborne was the one-time owner of WKSQ > Ellsworth. IIRC again, the WNSX CP > changed hands about 10 years ago for $40k. (not sure > from who to who.) If true > though, $40k to $800k in 10 years is not a bad > return. > > Sid > > Quoting Cooper Fox : > > > from allaccess.com: > > > > CLEAR CHANNEL is selling another small station, > > spinning WNSX/WINTER HARBOR, ME to MARK OSBORNE's > > STONY CREEK BROADCASTING for $800,000. > > > > > > Why do I know the name Mark Osbourne? Anyone have > any > > idea as to what he is going to do with the > station? > > Last thing I heard about that was that CCU was > once > > again simulcasting The Fox on it... > > > > > > Magic 104 > > North Conway, NH > > V: (603)356-8870 > > F: (603)356-8875 > > ***Commercial Production Demo at: > > http://cooperfox.voice123.com > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Discover Yahoo! > > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and > more. Check it out! > > http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html > > > > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Jun 8 15:32:26 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Jun 8 16:00:46 2005 Subject: Fw: WZAI (WGBH Brewster) comes on-air today? Message-ID: <002a01c56c64$c2980800$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I gather that Aaron is unable to post to the list so he asked me to post this for him. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Read" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:23 PM Subject: WZAI (WGBH Brewster) comes on-air today? Dan - can you post to the B.R.I.G. asking if anyone can confirm WGBH's website in saying that WZAI 94.3 Brewster/Lower Cape is actually on the air as of today? http://www.wgbh.org/cainan http://www.wgbh.org/cainan/article?item_id=2017780&parent_id=0 ----------------------------------- Aaron Read aread@friedbagels.com www.friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02176 From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Jun 8 16:09:10 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed Jun 8 16:09:02 2005 Subject: WZAI (WGBH Brewster) comes on-air today? In-Reply-To: <002a01c56c64$c2980800$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <200506082009.j58K91xr066597@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> It is indeed on the air. I noticed it this morning. It's simulcasting the WCAI/WNAN NPR programming, not WGBH. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA >-----Original Message----- >From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston- >radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan Strassberg >Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:32 PM >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Fw: WZAI (WGBH Brewster) comes on-air today? > >I gather that Aaron is unable to post to the list so he asked me to post >this for him. > >-- >Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net >eFax 707-215-6367 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Aaron Read" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:23 PM >Subject: WZAI (WGBH Brewster) comes on-air today? > > >Dan - can you post to the B.R.I.G. asking if anyone can confirm WGBH's >website in saying that WZAI 94.3 Brewster/Lower Cape is actually on the >air as of today? > >http://www.wgbh.org/cainan >http://www.wgbh.org/cainan/article?item_id=2017780&parent_id=0 > > > > >----------------------------------- >Aaron Read >aread@friedbagels.com >www.friedbagels.com >Boston, MA 02176 > > > > From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Wed Jun 8 16:43:05 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Wed Jun 8 16:42:55 2005 Subject: WBZ 1/2 Hourly IDs Revamped Message-ID: <200506081643.AA3400925510@mail.ttlc.net> With a big nod to WRKO's world-acclaimed News ID, WBZ-1030 has recut their Top (and Bottom) of the Hour IDs. With virtually no orchestration, far more percussion, a totally new "big" voice and no reference to the licensed wattage and/or the number of hours in a day - the new IDs rivet the listener, command instant attention and get their message across far more quickly than ever before. Kudos to the new imaging. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Wed Jun 8 17:00:00 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Wed Jun 8 17:00:58 2005 Subject: WBZ 1/2 Hourly IDs Revamped In-Reply-To: <200506081643.AA3400925510@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <000301c56c6d$09aa06a0$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> roger kirk noted: >>With a big nod to WRKO's world-acclaimed News ID, WBZ-1030 has recut their Top (and Bottom) of the Hour IDs. With virtually no orchestration, far more percussion, a totally new "big" voice and no reference to the licensed wattage and/or the number of hours in a day - (snip) Kudos to the new imaging. << But: as radio geeks, isn't there a certain mystique & tingle that comes with the "50,000 Watts of Power!" thing? Other than Jonathan Richmond & His Modern Lovers, we don't hear many 50kw references anymore. I have to admit, I'll haven't heard them yet today as I was listening to Howie rail about "the heat" in Boston today. Note: 73 in Portland-by-the-Sea right now. How hot IS it in E.Cambridge today that they had to close the courthouse? I heard one story mention an inside-reading of 86 (F). - -Chuck (I'm not shoveling snow so I'm not complaining) Igo From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Wed Jun 8 17:37:13 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Wed Jun 8 17:37:03 2005 Subject: WBZ 1/2 Hourly IDs Revamped Message-ID: <200506081737.AA4088070416@mail.ttlc.net> "Chuck Igo" wrote: >Note: 73 in Portland-by-the-Sea right now. How hot IS it in >E.Cambridge today that they had to close the courthouse? >I heard one story mention an inside-reading of 86 (F). It was 86 on the 2nd or 3rd floor. 90+ on the 15th floor. From rjoc@webtv.net Wed Jun 8 19:47:15 2005 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Wed Jun 8 20:48:27 2005 Subject: CCU dumps maine station Message-ID: <20050608234715.780FCD682@smtpout-3201.bay.webtv.net> Hey folks Yes WNSX is a 50kw on 97.7. They haul it out from Peaked Moutain just a few miles north of Route 1 in Sullivan, ME They have been wasting their signal on a relay of the "Fox" 101.7 WFZX Searsport/Bangor recently; although I will credit them will local HighSchool Basketball coverage this past winter. Their signal; coverage is quite good. East of Bangor, almost down to the Canadian Border. I hope they do get some local coverage with their new owners. DownEast Maine really needs some LOCAL coverage. Aside from Rick Foster's early morning local show on WDEA-1370 and local non-comm WERU 89.7 there's not a whole lot of local news/info outside of the Bangor clones. BTW the Osborne's ran local WKSQ 94.3 (then upgraded to 94.5 in mid 80s) since its' inception in 1982/83 Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Jun 8 22:09:01 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Wed Jun 8 22:08:57 2005 Subject: WBZ 1/2 Hourly IDs Revamped References: <000301c56c6d$09aa06a0$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <000d01c56c98$347419e0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Igo" To: Cc: "'BRI'" Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: RE: WBZ 1/2 Hourly IDs Revamped > Note: 73 in Portland-by-the-Sea right now. How hot IS it in E.Cambridge > today that they had to close the courthouse? I heard one story mention > an inside-reading of 86 (F). They can't afford to air condition the courthouses down there in Mass? I was trapped in one in Maine all day but it was cool inside. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Wed Jun 8 23:00:00 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Wed Jun 8 22:59:54 2005 Subject: WBZ 1/2 Hourly IDs Revamped Message-ID: <200506082300.AA2842362168@mail.ttlc.net> "Daniel Billings" asked; >They can't afford to air condition the courthouses down there in >Mass? I was trapped in one in Maine all day but it was cool inside. They can afford to Air Condition them. In fact, they just had the air conditioning systems repaired a few weeks ago. But, somehow, the repairs failed. Very hard to imagine failure of work done by union labor. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 9 01:23:24 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Jun 9 01:22:40 2005 Subject: WBZ 1/2 Hourly IDs Revamped In-Reply-To: <000d01c56c98$347419e0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <42A79A0C.31222.98B5A3@localhost> On 8 Jun 2005 at 22:09, Daniel Billings wrote: > > Note: 73 in Portland-by-the-Sea right now. How hot IS it in > > E.Cambridge today that they had to close the courthouse? I heard > > one story mention an inside-reading of 86 (F). > > They can't afford to air condition the courthouses down there in Mass? > I was trapped in one in Maine all day but it was cool inside. They closed the building because the A/C wasn't working, and it's one of those 1960s-era buildings in which the windows can't be opened. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Jun 9 02:58:26 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Jun 9 03:01:31 2005 Subject: WBZ 1/2 Hourly IDs Revamped References: <200506081643.AA3400925510@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <043e01c56cc0$c9ae6f60$1404fea9@xyz> > With a big nod to WRKO's world-acclaimed News ID, > WBZ-1030 has recut their Top (and Bottom) of the > Hour IDs. And no one has mentioned that the new voice of the ID is the one and only...J.J. Wright! From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Thu Jun 9 05:43:23 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Thu Jun 9 07:19:19 2005 Subject: Get Well Wishes: Bob Cohen Message-ID: <6fc5ad6f98ba.6f98ba6fc5ad@nyroc.rr.com> just a note to let you know that Bob Cohen is at the BU Medical Center recuperating after surgery. Bob worked at just about every station in town back in the day, and he's been working for Uncle Sam at VOA for the past decade and change. - -Chuck Igo From paulranderson@charter.net Thu Jun 9 21:37:09 2005 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Thu Jun 9 21:37:06 2005 Subject: Interesting DX Catches Tonight In-Reply-To: <000501c56bcf$d6fca110$6f918318@Mark> References: <000501c56bcf$d6fca110$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <51093d0814ced4755406b4d1757f1ba7@charter.net> On Jun 7, 2005, at 10:14 PM, Mark Watson wrote: > Unconfirmed: heard Red Sox baseball on 1340, checking the affiliate > list on the Sox web site the only station listed on 1340 is WSTJ St. > Johnsbury VT. You probably heard the Red Sox on WGAW Gardner MA. Paul From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Jun 9 22:47:32 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu Jun 9 22:47:56 2005 Subject: Steve Sbraccia of Channel 5 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050609224625.02a5d008@pop.registeredsite.com> Any TV people on the list? I heard that Steve Sbraccia (former radio newsperson from WHDH, long-time reporter for channel 5) is leaving channel 5. Anybody know why or where he is going? From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Thu Jun 9 22:56:05 2005 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Thu Jun 9 23:12:01 2005 Subject: Steve Sbraccia of Channel 5 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050609224625.02a5d008@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050609224625.02a5d008@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20050609225211.02ca4930@pop.gis.net> If I remember correctly, Boston Globe mentioned he is moving to one of the Carolinas due to a family issue. Also, he was at WEEI 590 as an AM street reporter taking Jack Harper's place when he went to channel 5. At 10:47 PM 6/9/2005, Donna Halper wrote: >Any TV people on the list? I heard that Steve Sbraccia (former radio >newsperson from WHDH, long-time reporter for channel 5) is leaving channel >5. Anybody know why or where he is going? > Ron Bello Bello Associates, Inc. 160 Speen Street - Suite 303 Framingham, MA 01701 508-820-1100 Fax 820-1112 From oldradio@earthlink.net Fri Jun 10 13:07:15 2005 From: oldradio@earthlink.net (RBB) Date: Fri Jun 10 13:07:00 2005 Subject: The old WGAW Message-ID: <42A9C8C3.40202@earthlink.net> Does anyone remember WGAW studios at one time, being in a large brick building in Gardner, occupying the corner of (what looked to me to be) a gymnasium with a shiny floor or an open room? The board was with two turntables and a couple of 45rpm players (yes, back to the old days of 45's...) I was driving through Gardner and thought I'd located the station, as was my habit then, chasing radio towers and finding studios in the early 1950's. It seems to me that the building was a recreation hall or a city facility, it wasn't a remote broadcast set up, more permanent than that. Probably it was only temporary while the permanent studios were being built? If this sounds familiar to you, please send me an email. Thanks. =Russ Butler oldradio@earthlink.net From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Jun 10 13:24:25 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Jun 10 13:24:50 2005 Subject: The old WGAW In-Reply-To: <42A9C8C3.40202@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050610131136.0299c320@pop.registeredsite.com> At 10:07 AM 6/10/2005 -0700, RBB wrote: >Does anyone remember WGAW studios at one time, being in a large brick >building in Gardner, occupying the corner of (what looked to me to be) a >gymnasium with a shiny floor or an open room? The board was with two >turntables and a couple of 45rpm players (yes, back to the old days of 45's...) I'll look up what addresses I have for the station, but I know that until the fall of 1953, the station was known as WHOB, and it was in the Colonial Hotel; the antenna site was supposed to be on Green Street (for those who know the Gardner area). When it was sold in October of 1953, I assume the new owners not only changed its name to WGAW but also moved it, since the old owners (including an attorney named Owen Hoban-- from whence the WHOB calls came) were the ones with the deal to have studios in the hotel. I am working on a list of dates for some of the suburban stations, so that we can bring the Boston Radio Archives more up to date-- a lot of small stations, while not in Boston, provided Boston radio with a number of d.j.'s, so we may as well record some of the history of those stations. From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Jun 10 13:47:45 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri Jun 10 13:47:51 2005 Subject: The old WGAW References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050610131136.0299c320@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <002901c56de4$86a8aee0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Hmmm... I thought that around that time the WHOB calls were in central NJ, in or near Princeton on 1350. The name of the licensee was Herbert W Hobler. Maybe I've got WHOB and WHWH confused. And then, wasn't there also WWHB in Rutland VT, which started on 1000 and moved to 970? Or was that WHWB? There are obviously large numbers of ways to arrange small numbers of letters ;>) The ultimate radio-geek passtime. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "RBB" ; Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:24 PM Subject: Re: The old WGAW > At 10:07 AM 6/10/2005 -0700, RBB wrote: > >Does anyone remember WGAW studios at one time, being in a large brick > >building in Gardner, occupying the corner of (what looked to me to be) a > >gymnasium with a shiny floor or an open room? The board was with two > >turntables and a couple of 45rpm players (yes, back to the old days of 45's...) > > I'll look up what addresses I have for the station, but I know that until > the fall of 1953, the station was known as WHOB, and it was in the Colonial > Hotel; the antenna site was supposed to be on Green Street (for those who > know the Gardner area). When it was sold in October of 1953, I assume the > new owners not only changed its name to WGAW but also moved it, since the > old owners (including an attorney named Owen Hoban-- from whence the WHOB > calls came) were the ones with the deal to have studios in the hotel. I am > working on a list of dates for some of the suburban stations, so that we > can bring the Boston Radio Archives more up to date-- a lot of small > stations, while not in Boston, provided Boston radio with a number of > d.j.'s, so we may as well record some of the history of those stations. > From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Jun 10 14:05:42 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Jun 10 14:05:37 2005 Subject: No "Beat the Press" Tonight Message-ID: <20050610180542.5FD173384C@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Since the channel 2 auction is still far from its completion, there will be no episode of "Beat the Press" tonight on WGBH-TV. But over on WGBH-FM, "On the Media" will air from 7:05 till 8:00 pm. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From ADAMNW@aol.com Fri Jun 10 16:23:52 2005 From: ADAMNW@aol.com (ADAMNW@aol.com) Date: Fri Jun 10 16:23:53 2005 Subject: Steve Sbraccia of Channel 5 Message-ID: <158.529bda67.2fdb50d8@aol.com> from Inside track. Sbraccia: G'bye N.E. Dogged street reporter Steve Sbraccia of ``NewsCenter 5'' is packing up and heading south to North Carolina at the end of the month, a move he says is ``bittersweet.'' ``My wife (attorney Susan Rist) had colon cancer - she's clean at the moment - but I got to thinking during her illness, `What the hell am I doing working 90 hours a week?' '' the Channel 5 veteran told the Track. ``I have to slow down.'' So the Rist-Sbraccias are putting their Newton home up for sale this week and will drive down to the Raleigh-Durham area June 25, the day after their daughters, age 10 and 5, get out of school. They don't have digs yet in Durham, but dad has found a gig at WB22 reporting for the 10 p.m. news. ``I was fully prepared to go down there and work at Home Depot, but the job came out of the blue,'' said Sbraccia, who has worked at WCVB since 1989 after a long career in radio. ``And the workload isn't as grueling.'' Sbraccia, whose last day on the job is June 18, admitted this winter's wild weather may have had a little something to do with the move south. ``There were 22 storms and I was out there in every one of them,'' he said. ``I know because I counted them by making little slashes and drawing clouds on my Dayplanner.'' Maybe Steve should have tried out for a weather gig! From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Jun 10 19:56:41 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri Jun 10 19:52:34 2005 Subject: The old WGAW References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050610131136.0299c320@pop.registeredsite.com> <002901c56de4$86a8aee0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <000e01c56e18$14e54f50$6401a8c0@pastor2> It is, or was,WHWB in Rutland. A daytimer on 1000. And the WGAW transmitter is still on Green Street, about a mile and a half north of downtown Gardner. The "new" studios were built on the transmitter site when the station was relocated from the Colonial Hotel. They sat more or less vacant for years until the new owners took over in 2004; I understand they've spruced everything up and are once again broadcasting out of the building. WGAW has had, happily, a new lease on life. Seems to me that the same thing could potentially happen in any number of small cities and towns, with some money, creative programming instincts and a genuine desire to serve the community. We have a little FM station in Farmington, Maine, near here, that is locally owned and does a wonderful job with its varied, community-oriented format. It's even popular with the kids at the local state college. Doug to Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "Donna Halper" ; "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:47 PM Subject: Re: The old WGAW > Hmmm... I thought that around that time the WHOB calls were in central NJ, > in or near Princeton on 1350. The name of the licensee was Herbert W Hobler. > Maybe I've got WHOB and WHWH confused. And then, wasn't there also WWHB in > Rutland VT, which started on 1000 and moved to 970? Or was that WHWB? There > are obviously large numbers of ways to arrange small numbers of letters ;>) > The ultimate radio-geek passtime. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Halper" > To: "RBB" ; > > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: The old WGAW > > > > At 10:07 AM 6/10/2005 -0700, RBB wrote: > > >Does anyone remember WGAW studios at one time, being in a large brick > > >building in Gardner, occupying the corner of (what looked to me to be) a > > >gymnasium with a shiny floor or an open room? The board was with two > > >turntables and a couple of 45rpm players (yes, back to the old days of > 45's...) > > > > I'll look up what addresses I have for the station, but I know that until > > the fall of 1953, the station was known as WHOB, and it was in the > Colonial > > Hotel; the antenna site was supposed to be on Green Street (for those who > > know the Gardner area). When it was sold in October of 1953, I assume the > > new owners not only changed its name to WGAW but also moved it, since the > > old owners (including an attorney named Owen Hoban-- from whence the WHOB > > calls came) were the ones with the deal to have studios in the hotel. I am > > working on a list of dates for some of the suburban stations, so that we > > can bring the Boston Radio Archives more up to date-- a lot of small > > stations, while not in Boston, provided Boston radio with a number of > > d.j.'s, so we may as well record some of the history of those stations. > > > > > > From hykker@grolen.com Fri Jun 10 20:49:22 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Jun 10 20:47:41 2005 Subject: WHWB (was: The old WGAW) In-Reply-To: <000e01c56e18$14e54f50$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050610131136.0299c320@pop.registeredsite.com> <002901c56de4$86a8aee0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <000e01c56e18$14e54f50$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050610204702.01c3d8c8@pop3.grolen.com> Doug Drown wrote: >It is, or was,WHWB in Rutland. A daytimer on 1000. Was. It's been dark for a good 15 years now. Does anyone know what the story was with this station? Started out a 1000W daytimer on 1000, sometime in the 80s moved to 970, but afaik remained a 1000W daytimer. From markwats@comcast.net Sat Jun 11 07:58:41 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat Jun 11 07:58:40 2005 Subject: Lowell Spinners Baseball Returns To WCAP Message-ID: <001f01c56e7c$eaa43fc0$6f918318@Mark> Today's Lowell Sun reports that the Lowell Spinners, the New York-Penn League Class A affiliate of the Boston Red Sox have signed a 2 year deal with WCAP (980 Lowell) to air all home & away games, after WUML (91.5 Lowell) cancelled the 2 year deal they made with the team due to concerns expressed by the WUML Advisory Board. Ryan Johnston will return as play by play voice as WCAP enters it's third season of airing the Spinners. All this after thousands of pocket schedules have been distributed all over the area since early May stating that WUML is the official play by play station of the Spinners. Here is a link to the article on the Lowell Sun's web site. Please note it may move to their archives after a day or two. http://www.lowellsun.com/sports/ci_2796281 Mark Watson From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Jun 11 14:13:24 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Jun 11 14:13:21 2005 Subject: Dean Johnson Leaves Herald Message-ID: <20050611181324.E36F986B10@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> In his media column in today's (06/11) Boston Globe, Mark Jurkowitz (who himself is leaving the Globe voluntarily) wrote about the many editors and writers at the Boston Herald who are taking buyouts or otherwise leaving the Boston Herald. One writer named is Dean Johnson, long-time writer on the pop-record scene and occasional writer on the radio biz. For the past couple of months, Greg Gatlin has written about radio on the business page, and not only is he staying on, but is apparently getting a promotion. Whether he, or someone else will be covering radio remains to be seen. It may be time to make Clea Simon a Globe writer and not just a correspondent. (She could deal not only with radio but also all cat-oriented stories like the attack-cat in Wethersfield, CT) -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Jun 11 14:29:55 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Jun 11 14:30:08 2005 Subject: Dean Johnson Leaves Herald In-Reply-To: <20050611181324.E36F986B10@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050611142813.02c0e218@pop.registeredsite.com> I doubt that the Globe will ever make Clea Simon full-time and I'll be surprised if the Herald replaces Dean Johnson. Editors just aren't putting a lot of emphasis on radio reporting, sad to say... Boston is also losing one of our better media critics, Dan Kennedy, who is about to become a full-time professor of journalism at Northeastern. From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Jun 11 15:13:19 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Jun 11 15:15:23 2005 Subject: Dean Johnson Leaves Herald References: <20050611181324.E36F986B10@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <00a101c56eb9$a32456c0$1404fea9@xyz> > It > may be time to make Clea Simon a Globe writer and not just a > correspondent. (She could deal not only with radio but also > all cat-oriented stories like the attack-cat in Wethersfield, CT) Didn't Monica COllins go on to write a pet column and/or pet books somewhere? Wasn't that also her true love? JP From billo@shoreham.net Sat Jun 11 15:51:43 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Jun 11 16:51:49 2005 Subject: Spinners on WCAP Message-ID: <42AB40CF.9020404@shoreham.net> After a game of 'follow the bouncing ball' the Spinners inked a 2 year deal with WCAP (980 Lowell). The students at WUML (91.5 UMass Lowell) put out a successful bid to keep the team off of the college signal. Ryan Johnston (PD) remains in booth for his third year after a just-completed season of Lowell Lock Monsters at the station. Bill O'Neill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 From markwats@comcast.net Sun Jun 12 17:19:03 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Jun 12 17:19:05 2005 Subject: Lowell Sun Article On "Jack" Radio Message-ID: <002c01c56f94$5dcb3a90$6f918318@Mark> Today's (6/12) Lowell Sun has an article about the "Jack" format, which starts with mentioning the still much discussed WCBS-FM flip to "Jack" a week ago Friday. Several folks were interviewed and quoted in the article, including our own Donna Halper, fresh off her appearance at this past Wednesday's BRI/NERW dinner gathering (which by the way I enjoyed). Was great renewing old acquaintences and meeting some new faces). Back to the topic at hand, here's a link to the article on the Lowell Sun's website: http://www.lowellsun.com/ci_2797822 Mark Watson From SonnyDaye1@aol.com Sun Jun 12 17:33:35 2005 From: SonnyDaye1@aol.com (SonnyDaye1@aol.com) Date: Sun Jun 12 17:34:56 2005 Subject: Interesting article Message-ID: <2ABD096F.5A889B64.0CE337EB@aol.com> Very interesting and informative article about the behind the scenes and reality of radio, pop music, the record industry etc. http://www.musicweb-international.com/RiseandFall/15.htm . ___________________________________________________________ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Jun 12 22:56:18 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun Jun 12 22:56:12 2005 Subject: Lowell Sun Article On "Jack" Radio In-Reply-To: <002c01c56f94$5dcb3a90$6f918318@Mark> References: <002c01c56f94$5dcb3a90$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: At 5:19 PM -0400 6/12/05, Mark Watson wrote: > Today's (6/12) Lowell Sun has an article about the "Jack" format, >which starts with mentioning the still much discussed WCBS-FM flip >to "Jack" a week ago Friday. As I write this, "Cousin" Bruce Morrow is being interviewed by Vin Scelsa on Sirius Disorder (24). In case people haven't heard. Sirius has hired Cousin Brucie to do several shows each week, as well as numerous specials. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Jun 13 00:33:16 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Jun 13 00:33:06 2005 Subject: NERW: 'UMB CP for 'PAA slot; 6/15 for ESPN? Message-ID: <1fbbbced050612213365ecd6c0@mail.gmail.com> Latest edition of North East Radio Watch mentions that WUMB applied for the 91.7 vacated by WPAA and got a CP to send some of its signal toward Riverdale--er, Haverhill (yes, the inspiration for the town in Archie comics, but I digress). Scott also says June 15 _might_ be (some sources hint) when 890 and 1400 go from Spanish-language to ESPN deportes--er, ESPN sports... http://fybush.com/nerw.html From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Jun 13 10:23:03 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Jun 13 10:22:54 2005 Subject: NERW: 'UMB CP for 'PAA slot; 6/15 for ESPN? In-Reply-To: <42AD1AE3.1060307@cssinc.com> References: <1fbbbced050612213365ecd6c0@mail.gmail.com> <42AD1AE3.1060307@cssinc.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced05061307234d560ceb@mail.gmail.com> On 6/13/05, Brian Vita wrote: > Um, won't this put a crimp in to WMWM? I'm guessing it won't, not any more than WPAA used to do. According to yahoo maps, Andover is 12.5 miles southwest of Haverhill; what I think WNEF (from its transmitter in Amesbury) wants to do is push their signal a bit more to the west and southwest (and maybe northwest), something they couldn't do from Amesbury due to the presence of WPAA. With 'PAA off, they applied to push their signal in those directions to expand coverage but I don't think WMWM would be affected. Though then again, when WNEF first went on air, it was said that the signal was being pushed "away from Salem". Yet anyone who drives north on Rt 1-A notices that WNEF starts mixing with WMWM by North Beverly or Wenham/Hamilton, and by Ipswich it's pretty much WNEF only. Considering that the WNEF signal was supposed to steer away from WMWM's signal, it still did manage to chop off its/our northern fringe. As for WPAA I do know that there was a time I was driving in the Harold Parker state forest in Middleton and had WMWM on; suddenly I heard a "dead air signal" followed by WPAA signing on. WNEF might be infringing on that area with the power increase now, once the CP is accomplished. From billo@shoreham.net Mon Jun 13 10:46:52 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Jun 13 10:46:46 2005 Subject: NERW: 'UMB CP for 'PAA slot; 6/15 for ESPN? In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced05061307234d560ceb@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced050612213365ecd6c0@mail.gmail.com> <42AD1AE3.1060307@cssinc.com> <1fbbbced05061307234d560ceb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42AD9C5C.3040708@shoreham.net> I'm guessing it won't, not any more than WPAA used to do. According to >yahoo maps, >Andover is 12.5 miles southwest of Haverhill; what I think WNEF (from >its transmitter in Amesbury) wants to do is push their signal a bit >more to the west and southwest (and maybe northwest), something they >couldn't do from Amesbury due to the presence of WPAA. > > I assume that there will be no co-channel impact on WUML (91.5 Lowell) who is directional to protect that area back when WPAA (10 then to 25 watts) had first claim on the FM landscape. What will be the footprint of the repeater? Any different than that of WPAA's? Bill O'Neill > > From escapen@msn.com Tue Jun 7 18:23:10 2005 From: escapen@msn.com (Stephen Capen) Date: Mon Jun 13 11:09:12 2005 Subject: CBS-FM dumps the format Message-ID: In the flurry of memos that ensued about ten minutes before the change, one of the CBS guys, after noting there were no sacred cows anymore, wondered how Arbitron "will respond to the diary responses of WCBS-FM streaming while Jack plays whatever it wants." Are the ratings services measuring online audiences? Stephen Capen Scituate, Mass. From SWalker@aimnetsolutions.com Fri Jun 10 06:26:12 2005 From: SWalker@aimnetsolutions.com (Walker, Steven) Date: Mon Jun 13 11:09:12 2005 Subject: Steve Sbraccia Message-ID: <3D7FA7AA2AE0104BBBF2E01D7591006E02F0A981@a1mxip01.corp.aimnetsolutions.net> Steve Sbraccia is leaving Channel 5 and heading to Raleigh, NC with his family. I enjoyed working with him at WEEI News Radio 590, he was an excellent reporter and an all around great guy. He'll be missed. From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Jun 13 11:14:59 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Jun 13 11:14:48 2005 Subject: NERW: 'UMB CP for 'PAA slot; 6/15 for ESPN? In-Reply-To: <42AD9C5C.3040708@shoreham.net> References: <1fbbbced050612213365ecd6c0@mail.gmail.com> <42AD1AE3.1060307@cssinc.com> <1fbbbced05061307234d560ceb@mail.gmail.com> <42AD9C5C.3040708@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <1fbbbced05061308145dd008aa@mail.gmail.com> By "repeater", do you mean the current WNEF transmitter in Amesbury, or that WUMB would get to put up a repeater in Andover? From Scott's bit in NERW it sounds like it's the former--a power increase for the Amesbury repeater...which would then send more power toward Haverhill, Andover, etc. If it indeed means WNEF goes from 470w to 1,000, I'm assuming that the direction null would still protect Salem. Then again it might also mean even more encroachment of WMWM's signal area by the UMass repeater... "...WUMB wasted no time applying for more power at repeater station WNEF (91.7 Newburyport) after the FCC deleted WPAA (91.7 Andover) a few months back. WNEF now holds a CP to go from 470 watts to a kilowatt, loosening its directional pattern to send more power west towards Haverhill." > What will be the footprint of the repeater? Any different than that of > WPAA's? From billo@shoreham.net Mon Jun 13 11:44:17 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill....) Date: Mon Jun 13 12:18:32 2005 Subject: To the Moon, Alice! Message-ID: <42ADA9D1.5090208@shoreham.net> Last week, WXAL-FM (93.7 Addison) // WLKC (103.3 Waterbury) ditched their "Alice" format for a jockless Frank/Jack/Dick/Erving/Carmine/Sean/Englebert clone slugged, "MP 103." Earth Wind & Fire / Foreigner / Phil Collins etc. Frankly, in this market, jockless is not necessary an unsupportable solution . Bill O'Neill Shoreham, Vermont -- I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and radio. Rodney Dangerfield From elipolo@earthlink.net Mon Jun 13 18:43:15 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Mon Jun 13 18:23:40 2005 Subject: NERW: 'UMB CP for 'PAA slot; Message-ID: It appears that there may be a misunderstanding of what Scott had posted in NERW, which was this: > "On the North Shore, WUMB wasted no time applying for more power > at repeater station WNEF (91.7 Newburyport) after the FCC deleted > WPAA (91.7 Andover) a few months back. WNEF now holds a CP to go > from 470 watts to a kilowatt, loosening its directional pattern > to send more power west towards Haverhill". It does not say that WUMB is applying for another translator in Andover for the former WPAA allocation. They aren't. There is no CP for WPAA's former Andover license, nor is there any new CP for anything licensed to 91.7 in Andover. The CP is simply for a power increase and pattern modification for 91.7 WNEF Newburyport, a repeater of WUMB transmitting from Amesbury. The CP increases WNEF from 470 to 1000 watts ERP, and loosens the null toward Andover that used to protect WPAA. They will be sending some signal from WNEF's transmitter in Amesbury toward Haverhill and Andover, but not putting on a new transmitter in or licensed to Andover. Eli Polonsky From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Jun 13 22:55:42 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon Jun 13 22:55:34 2005 Subject: NERW: 'UMB CP for 'PAA slot; 6/15 for ESPN? In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced05061308145dd008aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced050612213365ecd6c0@mail.gmail.com> <42AD1AE3.1060307@cssinc.com> <1fbbbced05061307234d560ceb@mail.gmail.com> <42AD9C5C.3040708@shoreham.net> <1fbbbced05061308145dd008aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 11:14 AM -0400 6/13/05, Bob Nelson wrote: >By "repeater", do you mean the current WNEF transmitter in Amesbury, or that >WUMB would get to put up a repeater in Andover? From Scott's bit in NERW >it sounds like it's the former--a power increase for the Amesbury >repeater...which >would then send more power toward Haverhill, Andover, etc. My guess is neither, it sounds to me that they will be changing the directional pattern of the antenna to make it send more signal in that direction. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From paulranderson@charter.net Tue Jun 14 21:56:34 2005 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Tue Jun 14 22:48:29 2005 Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article Message-ID: <6e1628b248c820d42099f5f27da0215f@charter.net> Tuesday's Worcester Telegram & Gazette has an article about the efforts to restore "live and local" programming on WESO Southbridge MA (970 AM). The station is fifty years old this year. Many local features had been dropped by the station in the last couple of years but the remaining ones have been saved by COO Dick Vaughn who took over the station late last year. From the article: While other radio stations are relying more and more on computers and pre-programmed voice recordings, Mr. Vaughan said his ultimate goal is to continue adding human talent until the station can be live full time. ?A human being will kick the hell out of a computer every time,? he said. Paul From Jibguy@aol.com Tue Jun 14 23:01:16 2005 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Tue Jun 14 23:01:18 2005 Subject: Article on WJIB-740 in The Weekly Dig (Boston) Message-ID: <202.3a975f8.2fe0f3fc@aol.com> http://www.weeklydig.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/article.view/issueID/5a1a67f7-e7 30-4c9a-95a7-5af70172379f/articleID/a63e7775-d75e-4198-9f90-4735f2521aab/nodeI D/5666324c-2898-4bdc-a362-4afcac799fcd From revdoug1@verizon.net Tue Jun 14 23:14:17 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Wed Jun 15 00:10:02 2005 Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article References: <6e1628b248c820d42099f5f27da0215f@charter.net> Message-ID: <002101c57158$513b03d0$6401a8c0@pastor2> WGAW, WARE, now WESO . . . Hmmm . . . Do I detect a nascent trend? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Anderson" To: "Boston Radio Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:56 PM Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article > Tuesday's Worcester Telegram & Gazette has an article about the efforts > to restore "live and local" programming on WESO Southbridge MA (970 > AM). The station is fifty years old this year. Many local features > had been dropped by the station in the last couple of years but the > remaining ones have been saved by COO Dick Vaughn who took over the > station late last year. > > 506140579/1004/NEWS04> > > From the article: > > While other radio stations are relying more and more on computers > and > pre-programmed voice recordings, Mr. Vaughan said his ultimate > goal is > to continue adding human talent until the station can be live full > time. > > ?A human being will kick the hell out of a computer every time,? > he said. > > Paul > From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 15 00:33:13 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Jun 15 01:04:05 2005 Subject: Article on WJIB-740 in The Weekly Dig (Boston) In-Reply-To: <202.3a975f8.2fe0f3fc@aol.com> Message-ID: <42AF7749.9375.58720B@localhost> On 14 Jun 2005 at 23:01, Jibguy@aol.com wrote: > http://www.weeklydig.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/article.view/issueID/5a1 > a67f7-e7 > 30-4c9a-95a7-5af70172379f/articleID/a63e7775-d75e-4198-9f90-4735f2521a > ab/nodeI D/5666324c-2898-4bdc-a362-4afcac799fcd > Great article! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From hykker@grolen.com Wed Jun 15 07:49:13 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Jun 15 08:30:09 2005 Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article In-Reply-To: <002101c57158$513b03d0$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <6e1628b248c820d42099f5f27da0215f@charter.net> <002101c57158$513b03d0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050615073821.01c1aec0@pop3.grolen.com> Doug Drown wrote: >WGAW, WARE, now WESO . . . Hmmm . . . Do I detect a nascent trend? While I applaud the efforts, I wonder how many of these stations can make a go of it long-term. Eventually, even the most deep-pocketed owner gets tired of subsidizing a money-losing operation. None of these stations exactly have powerhouse signals. > > From the article: > > > > While other radio stations are relying more and more on computers > > and > > pre-programmed voice recordings, Mr. Vaughan said his ultimate > > goal is > > to continue adding human talent until the station can be live full > > time. > > > > "A human being will kick the hell out of a computer every time," > > he said. Not true. If you suck no one will listen no matter where the programming originates. It's hard enough to draw listeners to AM, lost dog reports are not gonna bring 'em. The day is long gone when people will listen to an amateurish-sounding radio station just because it's "local". From scott@fybush.com Wed Jun 15 08:51:07 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Jun 15 09:52:03 2005 Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050615073821.01c1aec0@pop3.grolen.com> References: <002101c57158$513b03d0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <6e1628b248c820d42099f5f27da0215f@charter.net> <002101c57158$513b03d0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050615084906.0279abc0@gwind.pair.com> At 07:49 AM 6/15/2005 -0400, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Doug Drown wrote: >>WGAW, WARE, now WESO . . . Hmmm . . . Do I detect a nascent trend? > > >While I applaud the efforts, I wonder how many of these stations can make >a go of it long-term. Eventually, even the most deep-pocketed owner gets >tired of subsidizing a money-losing operation. None of these stations >exactly have powerhouse signals. I can't speak for how WESO or WGAW does it, but I suspect WARE's not a money-losing operation. It may not make a fortune in sales, but Marshall (and Dennis Jackson, the station's spiritual godfather) have found a decent way to retain a local morning show and automate most of the rest of the day without sounding out-of-town. IIRC, WARE is basically a one-man operation, and I'd have to imagine it's a profitable one. s From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Jun 15 11:53:22 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Jun 15 11:53:11 2005 Subject: NERW: 'UMB CP for 'PAA slot; 6/15 for ESPN? In-Reply-To: <42AE6494.7070401@cssinc.com> References: <1fbbbced050612213365ecd6c0@mail.gmail.com> <42AD1AE3.1060307@cssinc.com> <1fbbbced05061307234d560ceb@mail.gmail.com> <42AD9C5C.3040708@shoreham.net> <1fbbbced05061308145dd008aa@mail.gmail.com> <42AE6494.7070401@cssinc.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced050615085360437528@mail.gmail.com> I will hope that WMWM isn't another target of WUMB's manifest destiny. There was a bit of a dustup awhile back when WUMB tried to put up a repeater that would have spelled the end for WAVM 91.7, Maynard Public Schools, but it was settled... As far as the signal goes, most radios can get both WUMB and WMWM once you move a mile or so from the SSC campus--sometimes even as "close" as Riley Plaza, so would they make that effort just to get exclusivity in the Witch City as well as everywhere else? But yes, given limited resources ($), it would be tough for WMWM to fight the UMass folks. Unless SSC Pres. Nancy Harrington were to somehow work with local pols (Rep. Tierney, an SSC alum; or even Beverly's own Lt. Gov Murphy-Healey) to try to pressure WUMB to back off... From news@southstation.org Wed Jun 15 10:00:58 2005 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Wed Jun 15 12:45:44 2005 Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article In-Reply-To: <6e1628b248c820d42099f5f27da0215f@charter.net> Message-ID: <20050615140106.XRSQ749.lakermmtao06.cox.net@main> Unfortunately, I can't read the article without a subscription. -Larry Lovering The Radio Workshop > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Paul Anderson > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:57 PM > To: Boston Radio Mailing List > Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article > > Tuesday's Worcester Telegram & Gazette has an article about > the efforts to restore "live and local" programming on WESO > Southbridge MA (970 AM). The station is fifty years old this > year. Many local features had been dropped by the station in > the last couple of years but the remaining ones have been > saved by COO Dick Vaughn who took over the station late last year. > > 506140579/1004/NEWS04> > > From the article: > > While other radio stations are relying more and more on > computers and > pre-programmed voice recordings, Mr. Vaughan said his > ultimate goal is > to continue adding human talent until the station can > be live full time. > > "A human being will kick the hell out of a computer > every time," > he said. > > Paul > > From Jibguy@aol.com Wed Jun 15 13:08:23 2005 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Wed Jun 15 13:08:26 2005 Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article Message-ID: <12c.5fe60e55.2fe1ba87@aol.com> In a message dated 6/15/2005 8:30:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, hykker@grolen.com writes: >WGAW, WARE, now WESO . . . Hmmm . . . Do I detect a nascent trend? While I applaud the efforts, I wonder how many of these stations can make a go of it long-term. Eventually, even the most deep-pocketed owner gets tired of subsidizing a money-losing operation. None of these stations exactly have powerhouse signals. ----------------- Most small local AM stations: If one does the live local thing with every news tidbit and lost dog report, it will take 10 years for it to pay off. And that's not even a certainty since half the audience doesn't listen to AM, and the other half who know the local AM exists, also knows that its been struggling for the last 2+ decades with different owners and twice as many formats; and whose area resident are inclined to say: "Oh yes, I remember W---, is it still on?". There are a small handful of exceptions.... Marshall Sanft, part-owner of WARE is married to the station, and never stops working. He's a great example of how a local station is owned and run locally, run by a person who loves radio. WARE also has some unique advantages.... there's no other radio for 30 miles from the deep valley town of Ware, MA, where FM reception can be spotty. Ed Perry at WATD is another great example.(on FM). ---jibguy From rickkelly@gmail.com Wed Jun 15 14:27:07 2005 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Wed Jun 15 15:27:06 2005 Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050615084906.0279abc0@gwind.pair.com> References: <6e1628b248c820d42099f5f27da0215f@charter.net> <002101c57158$513b03d0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <6.0.3.0.0.20050615073821.01c1aec0@pop3.grolen.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20050615084906.0279abc0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd105061511271b8edb50@mail.gmail.com> On 6/15/05, Scott Fybush wrote: > I can't speak for how WESO or WGAW does it, but I suspect WARE's not a > money-losing operation. It may not make a fortune in sales, but Marshall > (and Dennis Jackson, the station's spiritual godfather) have found a decent > way to retain a local morning show and automate most of the rest of the day > without sounding out-of-town. IIRC, WARE is basically a one-man operation, > and I'd have to imagine it's a profitable one. They have actually gotten to be a little more live sounding over the past few months (being a frequent listener...). They now have marshall and Jeff Barna doing mid-days and afternoon drive, it sounds like they voice track that same day. The also run what appear to be brokered time telephone talk shows fairly frequently. I'm sure the station is doing okay... it's well done! Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From hykker@grolen.com Wed Jun 15 15:36:43 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (hykker@grolen.com) Date: Wed Jun 15 15:32:41 2005 Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050615084906.0279abc0@gwind.pair.com> References: <002101c57158$513b03d0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <6e1628b248c820d42099f5f27da0215f@charter.net> <002101c57158$513b03d0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <5.1.0.14.0.20050615084906.0279abc0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <37212.63.115.16.143.1118864203.squirrel@63.115.16.143> Scott Fybush wrote: > I can't speak for how WESO or WGAW does it, but I suspect WARE's not a > money-losing operation. It may not make a fortune in sales, but Marshall > (and Dennis Jackson, the station's spiritual godfather) have found a > decent > way to retain a local morning show and automate most of the rest of the > day > without sounding out-of-town. IIRC, WARE is basically a one-man operation, > and I'd have to imagine it's a profitable one. I was somehow under the impression that they had live jocks from 6a-6p. Haven't been down that way in many years, and living <5 mi from WKBR there's no chance of hearing them up here. How long has Spanish been gone from WARE? From ssmyth@psu.edu Wed Jun 15 17:41:27 2005 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed Jun 15 18:12:40 2005 Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article Message-ID: <200506152141.j5FLfRA02665@webmail13.cac.psu.edu> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:08:23, Jibguy@aol.com wrote: > Ed Perry at WATD is another great example.(on FM). As you mention, Ed Perry also has the advantage of FM. There was a debate on the radio-info board about this subject a few weeks ago, specifically on whether an Ed Perry-styled small FM could have survived in MetroWest. Let's remember, the fringes of the South Shore and the northern Cape have some wealthy summer/full-time residents. As an aside, it was a blast meeting everyone who was at the mailing list dinner last week. Hearing Gary Francis' war stories about Channel 50 made it a worthwhile evening alone -- nevermind Firefly's wonderful food and the adorable tower-hunting toddler. From Jibguy@aol.com Wed Jun 15 18:20:03 2005 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Wed Jun 15 18:20:02 2005 Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article Message-ID: <212.2e7f892.2fe20393@aol.com> In a message dated 6/15/2005 5:41:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, ssmyth@psu.edu writes: specifically on whether an Ed Perry-styled small FM could have survived in MetroWest. Let's remember, the fringes of the South Shore and the northern Cape have some wealthy summer/full-time residents. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- How 'rich' the people are usually makes no difference.... 540 Islip NY, 900 Brunswick ME, 1550 Newton MA, 1400 Biddeford ME, 740-Long Island, 1240-Hyannis MA, 1170 Orleans MA, 1600(gone)-Sag Harbor/Montauk NY, 1490-Greenwich CT, 1530-CT, 1220-Hamden CT, 1420 Peekskill NY. - All of those stations in well-to-do areas have either-and/or have: gone ethnic, simulcast another stations, changed owners frequently, changed formats endlessly, or clung to life to their FM.. - And lower-power FM's on Cape Cod.... lots of simulcasts. ---jibguy From markwats@comcast.net Wed Jun 15 18:22:28 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Wed Jun 15 18:22:25 2005 Subject: WCVB President/GM Paul LaCamera To Retire Message-ID: <005801c571f8$b91534d0$6f918318@Mark> WCVB (Channel 5 Boston) president/GM Paul LaCamera has announced that he will be retiring as GM effective August 1, and as president on Dec.31. LaCamera has been with WCVB from the beginning (March 19,1972). During a report on LaCamera on WCVB's 6 PM news, they announced Bill Fine has been named as LaCamera's replacement. Fine was VP/general sales manager at WCVB until 1998, when he was named president/GM of WBAL-TV Baltimore. Fine will become executive vice president/GM at WCVB on August 1, and will assume the title of president on Jan 1,2006. Here's a link to the Boston Herald article: http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=89424 Here's a link to the announcement on the WCVB website: http://www.thebostonchannel.com/money/4612105/detail.html Mark Watson From wollman@csail.mit.edu Wed Jun 15 19:37:14 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Jun 15 19:37:06 2005 Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article In-Reply-To: <200506152141.j5FLfRA02665@webmail13.cac.psu.edu> References: <200506152141.j5FLfRA02665@webmail13.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <17072.48042.152306.903900@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > specifically on whether an Ed Perry-styled small FM could have > survived in MetroWest. Ed will tell you that a big part of his success was doing the allocations work to get any potential FM competition assigned to other markets (mostly Cape Cod). He complains now that his salespeople aren't hungry enough. -GAWollman From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Jun 15 19:54:03 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed Jun 15 20:28:40 2005 Subject: WLLH Lowell transmitter is off AGAIN! Message-ID: <200506160028.j5G0Spi1014981@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Once again (for the forth of fifth time this year) the WLLH Lowell (1400am) transmitter has been off the air for over 24 hours. The Lawrence one is up but is delivering a poor quality (very weak static filled signal) here in Chelmsford. A call to Mega's office today revealed that they didn't know that it was off - second time that has happened. (What ever happened to meter readings and carrier alarms!?!) I drove by and DID notice that the river is high (although not surrounding the transmitter building). In other WLLH Lowell transmitter news, the Lowell City Council last night voted to raise the lease on the land the tower and transmitter building sit from $1,000 per year to $6,000 per year when it comes up for renewal in December of this year. And as of this moment WLLH Lawrence is still in Spanish...although it has been widely rumored that today is the switch to ESPN. From ssmyth@psu.edu Wed Jun 15 20:53:26 2005 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed Jun 15 20:53:17 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? Message-ID: <200506160053.j5G0rQO16160@webmail13.cac.psu.edu> Last week we debated the fate of media coverage in the Herald amid its massive buyouts and Dean Johnson's departure. Yesterday, this ad popped up on a popular Web site for reporters in the business, www.journalismjobs.com. There could only be two choices here based on the ad's specifications: the Herald and Metro. I'm doubting Metro is hiring a media critic. >From the ad's first line: "Come to Boston and be a superstar. Our daily tabloid thrives on the media business beat and we cover it better than anyone in town." For the entire ad, visit: http://www.journalismjobs.com/Job_Listing.cfm?JobID=523049 From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 16 01:00:00 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Jun 16 01:47:15 2005 Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article In-Reply-To: <200506152141.j5FLfRA02665@webmail13.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <42B0CF10.16791.8BBAE5@localhost> On 15 Jun 2005 at 17:41, Sean Smyth wrote: > As an aside, it was a blast meeting everyone who was at the mailing > list dinner last week. Hearing Gary Francis' war stories about Channel > 50 made it a worthwhile evening alone -- nevermind Firefly's wonderful > food and the adorable tower-hunting toddler. It was. But I'm still disappointed that I didn't get to meet Rufus T. Firefly. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Jun 16 16:05:20 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Jun 16 16:05:10 2005 Subject: Ch. 4 special about Boomtown on Sat. Message-ID: <1fbbbced05061613052c0e199d@mail.gmail.com> Saw in one of the Boston papers that WBZ-TV 4 will pay tribute to Rex Trailer's BOOMTOWN this Sat., June 18, from 1 to 2 pm from cbs4boston.com: 1:00PM - 2:00PM Rex Trailer's Boomtown Special [TV G] http://www.rextrailer.com/the_show.html From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Jun 16 16:49:50 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Jun 16 17:55:37 2005 Subject: WLLH Lowell transmitter is off AGAIN! Message-ID: <20050616204950.49414C6158@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gary's Ice Cream" >To: "Boston radio e-mail list" >Subject: WLLH Lowell transmitter is off AGAIN! >Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:54:03 -0400 > > Once again (for the forth of fifth time this year) the WLLH Lowell (1400am) > transmitter has been off the air for over 24 hours. The Lawrence one is up > but is delivering a poor quality (very weak static filled signal) here in > Chelmsford. I note that this post is dated 15 June 2005 19:54:30...then there's a-0400 something to do with GMT?...but if you were listening to the Lawrence transmitter late in the day or at night, that's what you can expect. The last time Lowell was down, I took a trip throug the City on my way to a movie in Newton and the Lawrence transmitter was servicing Lowell fairly well at midday. As I've noted before, considering the tiny stick and ancient and probably insufficient-when-it-was-new grounding system, I think getting out a dozen or so miles is pretty good for the Cregg Building antenna! -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Jun 16 16:54:48 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Jun 16 18:11:08 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? Message-ID: <20050616205448.99087C6119@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sean Smyth" >To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? >Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:53:26 -0400 (EDT) > > Last week we debated the fate of media coverage in the Herald amid its massive > buyouts and Dean Johnson's departure. Yesterday, this ad popped up > on a popular > Web site for reporters in the business, www.journalismjobs.com. There could > only be two choices here based on the ad's specifications: the Herald and > Metro. I'm doubting Metro is hiring a media critic. > > > From the ad's first line: "Come to Boston and be a superstar. Our > > daily tabloid > thrives on the media business beat and we cover it better than > anyone in town." > > For the entire ad, visit: > http://www.journalismjobs.com/Job_Listing.cfm?JobID=523049 Good work...unless they're referring to the Christian Science Montor which IS a tabloid too, this must be the Herald. The media beat is too important to be ignored, so they have to have someone covering it. Then why release Dean? (Apparently they didn't fire him, he took a buyout) Maybe someone with a fresh perspective WHO WILL WORK FOR LESS! -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Jun 16 16:56:35 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Jun 16 18:11:12 2005 Subject: WESO Southbridge newspaper article Message-ID: <20050616205635.F0572C610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: Jibguy@aol.com, "Sean Smyth" >Subject: Re: WESO Southbridge newspaper article >Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 01:00:00 -0400 > > On 15 Jun 2005 at 17:41, Sean Smyth wrote: > > > As an aside, it was a blast meeting everyone who was at the mailing > > list dinner last week. Hearing Gary Francis' war stories about Channel > > 50 made it a worthwhile evening alone -- nevermind Firefly's wonderful > > food and the adorable tower-hunting toddler. > > It was. But I'm still disappointed that I didn't get to meet Rufus > T. Firefly. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com He's afraid of lightning storms. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Jun 16 19:14:20 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Jun 16 19:51:24 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <20050616205448.99087C6119@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050616205448.99087C6119@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050616191101.020ceb10@mail.mac.com> At 04:54 PM 6/16/2005, Laurence Glavin wrote: > The media beat is tooimportant to be ignored, so they have to have > someone covering it. >Then why release Dean? (Apparently they didn't fire him, he took >a buyout) Maybe someone with a fresh perspective WHO WILL WORK FOR LESS! Is Dean qualified to report on all media, or is he strictly a radio and music reporter? I noticed today's Herald had a two page spread of media stories in the business section. Perhaps they want someone who will approach media from more of a business viewpoint. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From donkelley@aol.com Thu Jun 16 20:38:03 2005 From: donkelley@aol.com (donkelley@aol.com) Date: Thu Jun 16 20:38:08 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050616191101.020ceb10@mail.mac.com> References: <20050616205448.99087C6119@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> <6.2.1.2.2.20050616191101.020ceb10@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <8C740EBF4E6F63B-C18-86A@MBLK-M13.sysops.aol.com> For many years Dean Johnson was a contributing reporter, not a full-time columnist, for the Herald. Simultaneously he did restaurant reviews for the Lowell Sun and other papers. Was there a connection between Dean's non-renewal and his ability to report on the media? One could easily note that, as a radio reporter, Dean seemed knowledgable about stations in the rock world. When it came to observations or comments about stations in the mainstream Pop world, however, he often appeared to be out of his element. A similar lack of knowledge about popular mainstream formats appears on a regular basis on this list. How often have we read disparaging or clueless comments about a #1 station authored by someone who never bothers to listen to that station? I doubt that was the issue. Dean's downfall was due to the state of the newspaper business. The newspaper industry is facing far more severe challenges than radio. For years research has shown that hardly anyone under 35 reads the newspaper, and it gets worse every day. Is there anything that you'd find in a newspaper that you can't find online? Given that, why would a newspaper not opt to pay for someone who can report on the media on a per-column basis? The cost is probably a fraction of what they were paying Dean, and to the average reader the information is the same. When your numbers are falling you have to make some cuts. That's what happened to Dean. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Weil To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Sent: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:14:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? At 04:54 PM 6/16/2005, Laurence Glavin wrote: > The media beat is tooimportant to be ignored, so they have to have > someone covering it. >Then why release Dean? (Apparently they didn't fire him, he took >a buyout) Maybe someone with a fresh perspective WHO WILL WORK FOR LESS! Is Dean qualified to report on all media, or is he strictly a radio and music reporter? I noticed today's Herald had a two page spread of media stories in the business section. Perhaps they want someone who will approach media from more of a business viewpoint. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Jun 16 20:12:28 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu Jun 16 20:47:03 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050616191101.020ceb10@mail.mac.com> References: <20050616205448.99087C6119@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> <20050616205448.99087C6119@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050616200948.0296a4e0@pop.registeredsite.com> >Larry asked-- >Is Dean qualified to report on all media, or is he strictly a radio and >music reporter? I noticed today's Herald had a two page spread of media >stories in the business section. Perhaps they want someone who will >approach media from more of a business viewpoint. Dean has done general reporting as well as music, business, pop culture, and media criticism. I really think this is all about the benjamins-- the older reporters made more money and had better contracts, so as management sees it, let's save the salary and bring in newer and younger people who will do the job for less. Now, I am all for having new people with new perspectives, but throwing aside all of the experience and institutional memory (and discipline) of the veterans strikes me as being penny wise and dollar foolish. From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Jun 16 20:39:09 2005 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Jun 16 21:10:43 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? Message-ID: <200506170039.UAA29932@webmail11.cac.psu.edu> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:14:20 +0000, Larry Weil wrote: > Is Dean qualified to report on all media, or is he strictly a radio and > music reporter? I noticed today's Herald had a two page spread of media > stories in the business section. Perhaps they want someone who will > approach media from more of a business viewpoint. That's what they seem to be leaning toward. I'll be interested in seeing how they attack this. Business coverage has always been an area where the Herald's been strong. From radiotony@comcast.net Thu Jun 16 23:15:47 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Thu Jun 16 23:49:33 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050616200948.0296a4e0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <200506170349.j5H3niiW032650@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Unless the paper is $7 million in the hole and the older reporters won't take a pay cut to stay. However, Purcell has been starving CNC for years - the real money maker of the operation - while throwing money at the Herald and making it more tabloid, which is losing him money. While he didn't want to do this, he should have done it right after 9-11, and pumped more money into CNC. Instead, he went the opposite way. Best, Anthony Schinella Program Director/News/A&E WKXL 1450 AM/Concord, NH http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:12 PM To: Larry Weil; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? Dean has done general reporting as well as music, business, pop culture, and media criticism. I really think this is all about the benjamins-- the older reporters made more money and had better contracts, so as management sees it, let's save the salary and bring in newer and younger people who will do the job for less. Now, I am all for having new people with new perspectives, but throwing aside all of the experience and institutional memory (and discipline) of the veterans strikes me as being penny wise and dollar foolish. From radiotony@comcast.net Thu Jun 16 23:25:16 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Thu Jun 16 23:58:41 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050616200948.0296a4e0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <200506170358.j5H3wooj032698@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Unless the paper is $7 million in the hole and the older reporters won't take a pay cut to stay. However, Purcell has been starving CNC for years - the real money maker of the operation - while throwing money at the Herald and making it more tabloid, which is losing him money. While he didn't want to do this - cut staff - he should have done it right after 9-11, and pumped more money into CNC. Instead, he went the opposite way, and it has cost him. As well, CNC was overpriced at $160 million. He has been able to renegotiate the notes but the investors aren't happy with the meager 2 percent returns during this recession. Now, he is back in the hole ... Best, Anthony Schinella Program Director/News/A&E WKXL 1450 AM/Concord, NH http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:12 PM To: Larry Weil; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? >Larry asked-- >Is Dean qualified to report on all media, or is he strictly a radio and >music reporter? I noticed today's Herald had a two page spread of >media stories in the business section. Perhaps they want someone who >will approach media from more of a business viewpoint. Dean has done general reporting as well as music, business, pop culture, and media criticism. I really think this is all about the benjamins-- the older reporters made more money and had better contracts, so as management sees it, let's save the salary and bring in newer and younger people who will do the job for less. Now, I am all for having new people with new perspectives, but throwing aside all of the experience and institutional memory (and discipline) of the veterans strikes me as being penny wise and dollar foolish. From radiotony@comcast.net Thu Jun 16 23:44:31 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Thu Jun 16 23:58:41 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050616200948.0296a4e0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <200506170358.j5H3wook032698@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Unless the paper is $7 million in the hole and the older reporters won't take a pay cut to stay. However, Purcell has been starving CNC for years - the real money maker of the operation - while throwing money at the Herald and making it more tabloid, which is losing him money. While he didn't want to do this - cut staff - he should have done it right after 9-11, and pumped more money into CNC. Instead, he went the opposite way, and it has cost him. As well, CNC was overpriced at $160 million. He has been able to renegotiate the notes but the investors aren't happy with the meager 2 percent returns during this recession. Now, he is back in the hole ... Best, Anthony Schinella Program Director/News/A&E WKXL 1450 AM/Concord, NH http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:12 PM To: Larry Weil; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? >Larry asked-- >Is Dean qualified to report on all media, or is he strictly a radio and >music reporter? I noticed today's Herald had a two page spread of >media stories in the business section. Perhaps they want someone who >will approach media from more of a business viewpoint. Dean has done general reporting as well as music, business, pop culture, and media criticism. I really think this is all about the benjamins-- the older reporters made more money and had better contracts, so as management sees it, let's save the salary and bring in newer and younger people who will do the job for less. Now, I am all for having new people with new perspectives, but throwing aside all of the experience and institutional memory (and discipline) of the veterans strikes me as being penny wise and dollar foolish. From ssmyth@psu.edu Fri Jun 17 00:21:06 2005 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri Jun 17 00:20:58 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? Message-ID: <200506170421.AAA14199@webmail11.cac.psu.edu> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:44:31 +0000, "radiotony" wrote: > Unless the paper is $7 million in the hole and the older reporters won't > take a pay cut to stay. However, Purcell has been starving CNC for years - > the real money maker of the operation - while throwing money at the Herald > and making it more tabloid, which is losing him money. While he didn't want > to do this - cut staff - he should have done it right after 9-11, and pumped > more money into CNC. Instead, he went the opposite way, and it has cost him. > As well, CNC was overpriced at $160 million. He has been able to renegotiate > the notes but the investors aren't happy with the meager 2 percent returns > during this recession. Now, he is back in the hole ... Sure, CNC was overvalued in terms of purchase price, but for Purcell it was worth every penny of that $160 million to keep an option there in case his Herald floundered (which it did) and he needed a money-maker. Not wanting to run too far off-topic here. If anyone wants to continue this dialogue off-list, I'd be interested. From radiotony@comcast.net Fri Jun 17 00:00:48 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Fri Jun 17 00:31:02 2005 Subject: Sorry folks ... Message-ID: <200506170431.j5H4VDIX032925@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> I just switched over to Outlook 2003 and when my message didn't go over, I converted it to plain text, and when that didn't work, I sent it RTF. Yet, all three came through! Amazing. Again, sorry for the triple messages. Best, Anthony Schinella Program Director/News/A&E WKXL 1450 AM/Concord, NH http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com From JTyburczy@aol.com Wed Jun 15 19:07:09 2005 From: JTyburczy@aol.com (JTyburczy@aol.com) Date: Fri Jun 17 11:14:37 2005 Subject: Kenny Mayer Website Message-ID: <77.47921dcb.2fe20e9d@aol.com> At last, a page about Boston's own Kenny Mayer. http://www.qsl.net/wb1gfh/mayer.html -Joe Tyburczy From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri Jun 17 13:35:10 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Fri Jun 17 14:14:58 2005 Subject: Mark Persky to Mornings with Frank in Portland Message-ID: <000001c57362$e9cc5980$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/050617persky.shtml Not sure how long the link will stay up, but the short version is Mark Persky, after 5 presidential administrations is moving back to where it all began... 107.5. Mark was with WBLM in the 70's when The Blimp was at 107 1/2. and now, after a 6 month hiatus (presumably to satisfy a non-compete), is joining the WFNK "Frank" morning show in July (date to be officially determined), and there will be another addition to make Frank pretty much like every other station in the market with a 3-person morning show. I've known Mark for 27 years, first as a "listener," then as a friend and fellow-broadcaster. I wish him well, although not "too well," if you catch my drift. ;-) - -Chuck Igo From mark.springer@gmail.com Fri Jun 17 14:55:07 2005 From: mark.springer@gmail.com (Mark Springer) Date: Fri Jun 17 14:55:02 2005 Subject: Ch. 4 special about Boomtown In-Reply-To: <200506170431.j5H4V88g058734@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200506170431.j5H4V88g058734@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: > > 1. Ch. 4 special about Boomtown on Sat. (Bob Nelson) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bob Nelson > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org, raccoonradio@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:05:20 -0400 > Subject: Ch. 4 special about Boomtown on Sat. > Saw in one of the Boston papers that WBZ-TV 4 will pay tribute to Rex > Trailer's BOOMTOWN this Sat., June 18, from 1 to 2 pm > > from cbs4boston.com: > 1:00PM - 2:00PM Rex Trailer's Boomtown Special [TV G] > > http://www.rextrailer.com/the_show.html > Well talk about "Taking Me back," as the Cheap Trick song goes. Boomtown was a Saturday and Sunday staple at MY house alright. Later in the morning, of course it was Rocky and Bullwinkle! I actually was on Boomtown...it's quite a story. The "tickets" to be on the show was actually a letter...we got up really early one Saturday morning to drive from Manomet to Soldiers Field Road... and my Mom couldn't find the letter. Now if memory serves, we had waited quite a while to get it so it was a real bumme for me and my bro and sis. Well, Mom wrote a letter back explaining what had happened and lo and behold very quickly there came a new aticket to the show! My Mom was very impressed that they actually read the letters they got :) Anyway, a couple of weeks or so later we saddled up, picked up my brother's friend (we had 4 slots, I guess) and headed off to WBZ. The lobby was full of kids and parents, of course. Someone herded (no pun intended lol) us into the studio. We got to see a lot of the technical spaces and sets on the way in. The Boomtown set was pretty big, obviously. Now, being the observant young man that I was, I noticed a member of the production staff discretely taking a kid off into the sunset. I wasn't sure why, but my observation paid off later. In a few minutes another staffer told us that if we were asked our names, we should speak up in a good clear voice. Not being particularly shy, I took that advice to heart. So... Pretty soon I was asked my name, and I replied in a good clear voice... and found myself Sheriff of Boomtown! Loyal viewers will remember that all the kids would parade through the door of the Sheriff's office while the Sheriff and Deputy compared their faces to the Wanted Poster fo that day's villain. Guess where that kid was going...Yup, my dilligent police work paid off as we nabbed him right away! I still have my Boomtown Sheriff badge :) Rex Trailer and Pablo were also tireles suppoters of the Muscular Dystrophy Association, and they encouraged kids to put on fundraising "Carnival's for Muscular Dystrophy." My family and our neighborhood friends did that for several years. The reward, apart from helping out a very worthy charity and the lessons it taught us young people, was an end of summer event at Pleasure island hosted by WBZ, et al. That was always a lot of fun, especially seeing Rex do western work with plenty of space (I was never brave enought to let him doa bullwhip trick on me lol). It was very sad when Pablo (Dick Kilbride) passed away, and, appropriately, an MDA Summer Camp was named in his honor. 73's Mark (WL7BCT) in Bethel, Alaska From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Jun 17 17:01:39 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Jun 17 17:01:43 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? Message-ID: <20050617210139.B8DF83384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sean Smyth" >To: "Larry Weil" >Subject: Re: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? >Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:39:09 -0400 (EDT) > > > That's what they seem to be leaning toward. I'll be interested in seeing how > they attack this. Business coverage has always been an area where the Herald's > been strong. Don Imus has commented that he thinks that the New York City tabloid The Post has a business section that outshines the rest of the paper. It's possible that Cosmo Macero who's in charge of the Herald's business page opted for a "more, but shorter stories" approach. As I noted earlier, a writer for the Herald's business section, Greg Gatlin, was promoted to an editorship there. He previously wrote pieces about radio and other media from a business perspective. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Fri Jun 17 17:07:11 2005 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Fri Jun 17 17:07:10 2005 Subject: Kenny Mayer Website References: <77.47921dcb.2fe20e9d@aol.com> Message-ID: <000901c57380$87dd42c0$98803418@DG07P241> Thank you Joe! Ah for those years of staying awake on Sunday nights to listen to the Night Mayer.....AM radio was a delight!!! (Monday mornings were not such a delight, though.) You have captured the essence of Kenny. Paul Currier Sandwich MA ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 7:07 PM Subject: Kenny Mayer Website > At last, a page about Boston's own Kenny Mayer. > > http://www.qsl.net/wb1gfh/mayer.html > > -Joe Tyburczy > From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Jun 17 17:24:23 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Jun 17 17:24:24 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? Message-ID: <20050617212423.E81C23384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: donkelley@aol.com >To: kc1ih@mac.com, boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? >Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:38:03 -0400 > > > Was there a connection between Dean's non-renewal and his ability > to report on the media? One could easily note that, as a radio > reporter, Dean seemed knowledgable about stations in the rock > world. When it came to observations or comments about stations in > the mainstream Pop world, however, he often appeared to be out of > his element. > > A similar lack of knowledge about popular mainstream formats > appears on a regular basis on this list. How often have we read > disparaging or clueless comments about a #1 station authored by > someone who never bothers to listen to that station? > Oooo...Mr. Kelley is getting a little touchy again! This "#1" station to which he refers must be the vertical-finger-under-the-nose (to designate the command "shhhh") outlet he commands. I once commented about my enforced exposure to WMJX at a car dealership and the NH State liquor store in Salem and the unendurable misery of same; I didn't have to sample it over and over again to come to any conclusion about the vapidness of this particular soft-rock outlet. I also had occasional unwanted exposure to the former WSSH-FM 99.5 before it was gobbled up by G.M. WSSH-FM's antenna location smack in the middle of the Merrimack Valley caused it to be played in many places from Southern NH to Rockport, Mass. Between the two of them, I developed a pretty good idea how such a station sounds. I don't listen to WCRB either,except for the Boston Symphony broadcasts, but I can peruse their playlist on the Internet or see the, um, highlights in the Globe's radio-tv page, so i know Super Mario is still on the job. Here's something odd: WMJX indeed is among the highest-rated stations playing recorded material, but in spite of Mr. Kelley's remark above, not many people have a strong feeling about it, comparatively few people here or at radio-info.com/Boston offer opinions one way or the other, and the press ignores it except for a public affairs show when few are listening. But at both sites, an also-ran that barely qualifies as an also-ran like WWZN-AM is the constant subject of postings. The switch to "Mike" probably occasioned more comments in a few weeks than anybody ever cared to post about WMJX in a year! -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From donkelley@aol.com Fri Jun 17 22:12:06 2005 From: donkelley@aol.com (donkelley@aol.com) Date: Fri Jun 17 22:12:17 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <20050617212423.E81C23384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050617212423.E81C23384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <8C741C242D9D48A-3FC-4FE0@MBLK-M02.sysops.aol.com> Well, now...there's a perfect example of the disparaging and clueless comments I was talking about. I have no idea about Mr. Glavin's radio background, if he actually has any, and it's of no consequence anyway. Here's the clueless example: Mr. Glavin says he had "an occasional unwanted exposure to the late WSSH-FM 99.5 before it was gobbled up by G.M." Any idea when Wish went away? December, 1995. Ten years ago this fall. "G.M.," as he calls us, (Greater Media, Inc. is actually known as GMI, by the way) did not gobble up Wish. Magic actually ran them out of the format. They switched to "Smooth Jazz as WOAZ, 99.5 The Oasis" and we acquired the station two years later. By the way, Magic has not run the Teri Garr "ssh" spot for four years. That spot, though, is the most successful TV spot ever run for a radio station in Boston. We ran it for six years during every Spring and Fall Book and we were #1 in 11 of 12. Disparaging example: I shouldn't even bother to respond to Mr. Glavin's assertion that "not many people have a strong feeling about it"...but I will merely note that Magic 106.7 has been #1 25-54 thirty-seven times in the last 15 years. The closest any other station comes to that is WEEI with four #1's. Well over a half-million people each week have strong enough feelings about the station to write it down in their diary. My point in the original posting was to comment that Dean Johnson's reporting skills were stronger when he focused on the rock work than when he focused on the pop world. One would think that the Boston Radio Interest Group would welcome comments and posts from major market programmers. Responses such as the one from Mr. Glavin - calling the #1 station "vapid" based on a forced occasion of listening some ten years ago - will only result in those prorammers blowing off the list. Is that the interest of the list? -----Original Message----- From: Laurence Glavin To: donkelley@aol.com; kc1ih@mac.com; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Sent: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:24:23 -0500 Subject: Re: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? >----- Original Message ----- >From: donkelley@aol.com >To: kc1ih@mac.com, boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? >Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:38:03 -0400 > > > Was there a connection between Dean's non-renewal and his ability > to report on the media? One could easily note that, as a radio > reporter, Dean seemed knowledgable about stations in the rock > world. When it came to observations or comments about stations in > the mainstream Pop world, however, he often appeared to be out of > his element. > > A similar lack of knowledge about popular mainstream formats > appears on a regular basis on this list. How often have we read > disparaging or clueless comments about a #1 station authored by > someone who never bothers to listen to that station? > Oooo...Mr. Kelley is getting a little touchy again! This "#1" station to which he refers must be the vertical-finger-under-the-nose (to designate the command "shhhh") outlet he commands. I once commented about my enforced exposure to WMJX at a car dealership and the NH State liquor store in Salem and the unendurable misery of same; I didn't have to sample it over and over again to come to any conclusion about the vapidness of this particular soft-rock outlet. I also had occasional unwanted exposure to the former WSSH-FM 99.5 before it was gobbled up by G.M. WSSH-FM's antenna location smack in the middle of the Merrimack Valley caused it to be played in many places from Southern NH to Rockport, Mass. Between the two of them, I developed a pretty good idea how such a station sounds. I don't listen to WCRB either,except for the Boston Symphony broadcasts, but I can peruse their playlist on the Internet or see the, um, highlights in the Globe's radio-tv page, so i know Super Mario is still on the job. Here's something odd: WMJX indeed is among the highest-rated stations playing recorded material, but in spite of Mr. Kelley's remark above, not many people have a strong feeling about it, comparatively few people here or at radio-info.com/Boston offer opinions one way or the other, and the press ignores it except for a public affairs show when few are listening. But at both sites, an also-ran that barely qualifies as an also-ran like WWZN-AM is the constant subject of postings. The switch to "Mike" probably occasioned more comments in a few weeks than anybody ever cared to post about WMJX in a year! -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From Jibguy@aol.com Sat Jun 18 01:57:54 2005 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Sat Jun 18 02:44:21 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? Message-ID: <1c0.2ad08fe0.2fe511e2@aol.com> In a message dated 6/17/2005 10:12:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, donkelley@aol.com writes: Well, now...there's a perfect example of the disparaging and clueless comments I was talking about. I have no idea about Mr. Glavin's radio background, if he actually has any, and it's of no consequence anyway. So silly to give any credibility to NON-big-station-management individuals' opinions on this list. Silly people they are.... wanting too much, like more than a 400-song high-&-medium-rotation playlist. In all seriousness, a combination of both is good as long as neither thinks of themselves as higher and mightier. ---jibguy From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Jun 18 03:10:29 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Jun 18 03:10:19 2005 Subject: BRW: Celts to 'RKO Message-ID: <1fbbbced05061800103a65808f@mail.gmail.com> >From high above courtside (reliable sources) comes word that WRKO has gotten the rights to the Celtics. Details on BostonRadioWatch: http://www.bostonradiowatch.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Jun 18 02:52:52 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Jun 18 03:29:07 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? References: <20050617212423.E81C23384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <018101c573d2$5bafc720$1404fea9@xyz> > I once commented > about my enforced exposure to WMJX at a car dealership and the > NH State liquor store in Salem and the unendurable misery of same; > gobbled up by G.M. WSSH-FM's antenna location smack in the middle > of the Merrimack Valley caused it to be played in many places from Southern > NH to Rockport, Mass. Between the two of them, I developed a pretty > good idea how such a station sounds. And you think WMJX and the former WSSH sound the same? > Here's something odd: WMJX indeed is among the highest-rated > stations playing recorded material, but in spite of Mr. Kelley's > remark above, not many people have a strong feeling about it, > comparatively few people here or at radio-info.com/Boston offer > opinions one way or the other... Well, lets have a show of hands. How many 25-54 females are on this list? From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Sat Jun 18 10:44:53 2005 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Sat Jun 18 11:44:48 2005 Subject: WCBS-FM format change featured on NBC Nightly News Message-ID: <20050618144453.77731.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> Did anybody catch NBC Nightly News Thursday night? They did a report on the decline of the oldies format over the past couple years, and of course the biggest part of the story was the change of WCBS-FM away from oldies, complete with an interview with Cousin Brucie Morrow. Silly story to go with this whole situation: I first found out about the format change the day after it happened (Saturday night, to be exact). I was out in Fairfield CT with my girlfriend visiting a friend of mine, and on the way home I tuned in 101.1 to hear Love and Rockets 'So Alive' followed by a Jack-FM liner. When I heard that Jack-FM liner, I was like "NO WAY! THEY DIDN'T!" and my girlfriend, who's not a radio geek at all, was like "didn't what?" After I explained to her that WCBS-FM was not only one of the biggest oldies stations in the US, but one of the original stations that created the format, she was like "so, whats the big deal? They changed, big whoop!" She's carried that through, and has told me a couple times how amazed she was at how much that format change affected me and doesn't understand why I've make such a big deal out of it. Then I proceeded to show her that it made not only Yahoo's news website, but also the many other places it has showed up, culimnating with the national NBC Nightly News story. I wonder if she's finally starting to get it? Oh well, I guess not all of us are hard core radio geeks (as I'm sure everyone else on ths list can understand) Matt Osborne Latham, NY (formerly of Poughkeepsie, yes I moved again. The scary part is - I'm not even working in radio anymore) ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From hykker@grolen.com Sat Jun 18 12:34:20 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Jun 18 13:31:25 2005 Subject: WCBS-FM format change featured on NBC Nightly News In-Reply-To: <20050618144453.77731.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050618144453.77731.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050618122802.01b0e018@pop3.grolen.com> Matthew Osborne wrote: >When I heard that Jack-FM liner, I was like >"NO WAY! THEY DIDN'T!" and my girlfriend, who's not a >radio geek at all, was like "didn't what?" After I >explained to her that WCBS-FM was not only one of the >biggest oldies stations in the US, but one of the >original stations that created the format, she was >like "so, whats the big deal? They changed, big >whoop!" She's carried that through, and has told me a >couple times how amazed she was at how much that >format change affected me and doesn't understand why >I've make such a big deal out of it. Then I proceeded >to show her that it made not only Yahoo's news >website, but also the many other places it has showed >up, culimnating with the national NBC Nightly News >story. I wonder if she's finally starting to get it? > > > Oh well, I guess not all of us are hard core radio >geeks (as I'm sure everyone else on ths list can >understand) Speaking as a fellow radio geek, I have to say that while it's sad to see a heritage station change formats, life goes on. A lot of us (myself included) on this list grew up with Top 40 on WRKO, but it wasn't the end of the world when they went talk. I really don't see what the big fuss is about. "Jack" is to my ears, an oldies station for a different generation. From gary@garysicecream.com Sat Jun 18 14:04:48 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sat Jun 18 14:38:53 2005 Subject: Rex Trailer's Boomtown Message-ID: <200506181839.j5IId4sl056688@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> I'm just sitting in front of the tv in what I can best desribe as "Nostalgia Overload" having just watched the "Rex Trailer's Boomtown" special on Channel 4. Memories that have been stored for 40 years have all come flooding back. Wow! Nice to see Donna Halper, Larry Glick, Jess Cain and so many more as part of the tribute. Anybody that wants to chat about it - feel free to join me tonight at midnite on WCAP's "After Midnite with Gary Francis" - the call in number starting at midnite is 978-441-2540, let's talk about Rex. -Gary Francis TalkRadio 980 WCAP From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sat Jun 18 14:11:25 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sat Jun 18 14:51:08 2005 Subject: WCBS-FM format change featured on NBC Nightly News In-Reply-To: <20050618144453.77731.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c57431$2482d260$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> My saddened broadcast-bro Matthew wrote: << (snip) Silly story to go with this whole situation: I first found out about the format change the day after it happened (Saturday night, to be exact). I was out in Fairfield CT with my girlfriend visiting a friend of mine, and on the way home I tuned in 101.1 to hear Love and Rockets 'So Alive' followed by a Jack-FM liner. When I heard that Jack-FM liner, I was like "NO WAY! THEY DIDN'T!" and my girlfriend, who's not a radio geek at all, was like "didn't what?" >> My reaction was comparable to yours (I actually exlaimed "no, they didn?t!") while I was at the household computer when I caught the "bulletin." My wife was thinking that somebody died. My bride has been with me since my first radio gig in 19-aught-something and very much understands the whole concept of radio people (we don't listen the songs, we listen to the announcers & commercials; and we never, ever stay on the same station longer than 6 minutes, unless it's a baseball or hockey game) When I explained the switch of WCBS-FM was not a great omen to those of us currently employed in traditional Oldies formats, she then understood the extent of my reaction. Of course, once the entire radio spectrum is filled with "Jack" type formats, then stations will start to once again carve out a niche to better suit a target portion of an audience and suddenly, there will be formats again. And on a note of WCBS-FM staffers, with all due respect to Mr. Dolenz, there are more than a few of us who have put heart & soul into broadcasting who are tired of watching "Names" get prime, major-market gigs for which we have been aiming all these years. Sorry, Mickey, love your records (and was even a member of the Monkees fan club back in the day), but I'm not lamenting your sudden under-employment. And yes, I feel the same way about Danny Partridge. - - Chuck (I feel your pain) Igo From w1mex@lycos.com Sat Jun 18 14:00:41 2005 From: w1mex@lycos.com (KEVIN GOODWIN) Date: Sat Jun 18 15:44:10 2005 Subject: Beyond Limits Message-ID: <20050618180041.F3424C6119@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Today from 3:30-4:00 saturday channel 5 will be running the pilot episode of Beyond Limits. Its focus is on people who have many talents including people with disabilities like myself. Now you might be saying what does this have to do with radio? In one of the segments on today's pilot episode has a focus on an air talent from the Providence RI area. If you like the program go to www. Beyond Limits.org and tell channel 5 to keep this program. Kevin Goodwin -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Jun 18 15:58:53 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Jun 18 16:35:38 2005 Subject: Beyond Limits References: <20050618180041.F3424C6119@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <062301c57440$57ccdda0$1404fea9@xyz> From: "KEVIN GOODWIN" > Today from 3:30-4:00 saturday channel 5 will be running the pilot episode of Beyond Limits. >>Received: with SMTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:45:08 ~~~~~~ I don't know about anyone else, but you can see from the header that this message didn't get to me until after the program started. For the rest of us, who was the talent....and what was the limitation he overcame? JP From w1mex@lycos.com Sat Jun 18 16:46:12 2005 From: w1mex@lycos.com (KEVIN GOODWIN) Date: Sat Jun 18 16:46:07 2005 Subject: Beyond Limits Message-ID: <20050618204612.DB1623384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Pappalardo" To: "KEVIN GOODWIN" , "Boston Radio" Subject: Re: Beyond Limits Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:58:53 -0400 > > > From: "KEVIN GOODWIN" > > > Today from 3:30-4:00 saturday channel 5 will be running the pilot episode > of Beyond Limits. > > >> Received: with SMTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:45:08 > ~~~~~~ > > I don't know about anyone else, but you can see from the header that this > message didn't get to me until after the program started. > > For the rest of us, who was the talent....and what was the limitation he > overcame? > > JP Joe, The air talents name was Jed Barton aka The Prince of Darkness. He has been blind since birth. He first worked at WSNE he was there for three years. He went to Emerson and was hired by Oldies 103. Don't know how long he was there. He then went back Prvidence to work at B101 WWBB doing overnights. I don't know if he still works there he was also their imaging director. Jeff Ryan was also interviewed. Jeff said that all B101 had to do was put brail on the cd's and carts and the jock before Jed would read the log for him. I know that Jeff was Bruce Palmer's right hand man on his saturday night request show when he had it. I know that Jeff no longer works at B101. I don't know where Jeff works now. I made a mistake on the Website it is WWW. beyond-limits.org. You can also get info on the stories that were featured. Kevin Goodwin -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From fox893@yahoo.com Sat Jun 18 16:22:32 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Sat Jun 18 17:22:28 2005 Subject: Rex Trailer's Boomtown In-Reply-To: <200506181839.j5IId4sl056688@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <20050618202232.13553.qmail@web54605.mail.yahoo.com> --- Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > I'm just sitting in front of the tv in what I can > best desribe as "Nostalgia > Overload" having just watched the "Rex Trailer's > Boomtown" special on > Channel 4. > Memories that have been stored for 40 years have all > come flooding back. I had a chance to see that this afternoon. Very cool to see how there were local kids programming then. I have seen some of the local kids stuff that Portland stations kick out. It's not bad, but with all the other options available to kids on a Saturday morning I cannot imagine viewership is all that large. I was surpised to see they(Boomtown) did a show/appearance at Santa's Village in Jefferson NH. Has WBZ ever been viewable in that part of NH? Or was it done on the assumption that viewers would go there to see Rex and crew? I assume these were appearances that were actually sold to Santa's Village? Magic 104 North Conway, NH V: (603)356-8870 F: (603)356-8875 ***Commercial Production Demo at: http://cooperfox.voice123.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Jun 18 17:18:20 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat Jun 18 17:48:50 2005 Subject: Beyond Limits In-Reply-To: <20050618204612.DB1623384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <200506182148.j5ILmvXx058006@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> >The air talents name was Jed Barton aka The Prince of Darkness. He has been >blind since birth. He first worked at WSNE he was there for three years. He >went to Emerson and was hired by Oldies 103. Don't know how long he was >there. He then went back Prvidence to work at B101 WWBB doing overnights. I >don't know if he still works there he was also their imaging director. I know Jed very well. Unfortunately he no longer works at B101 or in radio at all. He was the last live overnight jock on a commercial station in Providence (with the exception of 95.5 WBRU). Unfortunately he was replaced with a computer, and they don't even voicetrack anyone overnights these days. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Jun 18 17:19:23 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat Jun 18 17:48:52 2005 Subject: Beyond Limits In-Reply-To: <20050618204612.DB1623384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <200506182148.j5ILmvY0058006@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> I forgot to add that he does run his own internet station at www.mix102.net Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA >-----Original Message----- >From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston- >radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of KEVIN GOODWIN >Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 4:46 PM >To: Joseph Pappalardo; Boston Radio >Subject: Re: Beyond Limits > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Joseph Pappalardo" >To: "KEVIN GOODWIN" , "Boston Radio" >Subject: Re: Beyond Limits >Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:58:53 -0400 > >> >> >> From: "KEVIN GOODWIN" >> >> > Today from 3:30-4:00 saturday channel 5 will be running the pilot >episode >> of Beyond Limits. >> >> >> Received: with SMTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:45:08 >> ~~~~~~ >> >> I don't know about anyone else, but you can see from the header that this >> message didn't get to me until after the program started. >> >> For the rest of us, who was the talent....and what was the limitation he >> overcame? >> >> JP >Joe, >The air talents name was Jed Barton aka The Prince of Darkness. He has been >blind since birth. He first worked at WSNE he was there for three years. He >went to Emerson and was hired by Oldies 103. Don't know how long he was >there. He then went back Prvidence to work at B101 WWBB doing overnights. I >don't know if he still works there he was also their imaging director. Jeff >Ryan was also interviewed. Jeff said that all B101 had to do was put brail >on the cd's and carts and the jock before Jed would read the log for him. I >know that Jeff was Bruce Palmer's right hand man on his saturday night >request show when he had it. I know that Jeff no longer works at B101. I >don't know where Jeff works now. >I made a mistake on the Website it is WWW. beyond-limits.org. You can also >get info on the stories that were featured. > >Kevin Goodwin > >-- >_______________________________________________ >NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at >once. >http://datingsearch.lycos.com > From wollman@csail.mit.edu Sat Jun 18 18:28:38 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat Jun 18 18:28:33 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <8C741C242D9D48A-3FC-4FE0@MBLK-M02.sysops.aol.com> References: <20050617212423.E81C23384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> <8C741C242D9D48A-3FC-4FE0@MBLK-M02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <17076.40982.927424.804210@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < other station comes to that is WEEI with four #1's. Well over a > half-million people each week have strong enough feelings about the > station to write it down in their diary. I think you make a serious error of logic to suggest that diary entries imply "strong feelings". This may be an unpopular position, but I would like to suggest that most people who accept Arbitron's dollar try to fill out their diaries in an honest and accurate fashion, within the limits of short-term memory. A diary entry for Magic implies nothing more than awareness that the station was playing on the radio -- which could mean anything from "it's my favorite station in the whole wide world" to "of the six stations we can get inside this concrete office building, it's the only one my assistant likes" to "it's the only station my husband and I can both tolerate when we're in the car together". There are probably at least as many people who have strong feelings of antipathy towards Magic as would call it their favorite station -- as witness the diary entries for 'BCN, 'FNX, and 'AAF. -GAWollman From wollman@csail.mit.edu Sat Jun 18 18:37:48 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat Jun 18 18:37:40 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <8C741C242D9D48A-3FC-4FE0@MBLK-M02.sysops.aol.com> References: <20050617212423.E81C23384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> <8C741C242D9D48A-3FC-4FE0@MBLK-M02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <17076.41532.685679.234341@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < One would think that the Boston Radio Interest Group would welcome > comments and posts from major market programmers. Responses such as > the one from Mr. Glavin - calling the #1 station "vapid" based on a > forced occasion of listening some ten years ago - will only result > in those prorammers blowing off the list. You and other pros are absolutely welcome to post here. Your employment, and your station's undoubted commercial success, do not grant you an immunity from criticism. Adult Contemporary radio is, how shall I put it, Not Everyone's Cup Of Tea. I'm certain if Laurence lived in Springfield he'd be complaining about the vapidity of WMAS-FM and WHYN-FM (not to mention the dearth of opera and choral music and the machinations of WAMC's Alan Chartock). Sometimes he can sound like a broken record, but then, so do you. -GAWollman From w1mex@lycos.com Sat Jun 18 18:45:47 2005 From: w1mex@lycos.com (KEVIN GOODWIN) Date: Sat Jun 18 18:45:46 2005 Subject: Beyond Limits Message-ID: <20050618224547.12867C6119@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Lehmann" To: "'KEVIN GOODWIN'" , "'Joseph Pappalardo'" , "'Boston Radio'" Subject: RE: Beyond Limits Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:19:23 -0400 > > I forgot to add that he does run his own internet station at www.mix102.net > > Jeff Lehmann Jeff, Yes Jed does indeed run his own station. He also is APD and weekday afternoon air talent and weekend morning talent for the Party Planet which is run out of Providence RI. I also saw that Mike Roberts is also involved as air talent for party Planet, However, I am not sure if it is the same Mike Roberts who does helps Frank Foley weeday mornings on WCRN. It sounds like it because provided a link to his website. Kevin Goodwin > Hanson, MA > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston- > > radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of KEVIN GOODWIN > > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 4:46 PM > > To: Joseph Pappalardo; Boston Radio > > Subject: Re: Beyond Limits > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joseph Pappalardo" > > To: "KEVIN GOODWIN" , "Boston Radio" > > Subject: Re: Beyond Limits > > Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:58:53 -0400 > > > >> > >> > >> From: "KEVIN GOODWIN" > >> > >> > Today from 3:30-4:00 saturday channel 5 will be running the pilot > > episode > >> of Beyond Limits. > >> > >> >> Received: with SMTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:45:08 > >> ~~~~~~ > >> > >> I don't know about anyone else, but you can see from the header that this > >> message didn't get to me until after the program started. > >> > >> For the rest of us, who was the talent....and what was the limitation he > >> overcame? > >> > >> JP > > Joe, > > The air talents name was Jed Barton aka The Prince of Darkness. He has been > > blind since birth. He first worked at WSNE he was there for three years. He > > went to Emerson and was hired by Oldies 103. Don't know how long he was > > there. He then went back Prvidence to work at B101 WWBB doing overnights. I > > don't know if he still works there he was also their imaging director. Jeff > > Ryan was also interviewed. Jeff said that all B101 had to do was put brail > > on the cd's and carts and the jock before Jed would read the log for him. I > > know that Jeff was Bruce Palmer's right hand man on his saturday night > > request show when he had it. I know that Jeff no longer works at B101. I > > don't know where Jeff works now. > > I made a mistake on the Website it is WWW. beyond-limits.org. You can also > > get info on the stories that were featured. > > > > Kevin Goodwin > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at > > once. > > http://datingsearch.lycos.com > > -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Jun 18 18:35:44 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Jun 18 19:06:37 2005 Subject: Beyond Limits In-Reply-To: <200506182148.j5ILmvXx058006@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <20050618204612.DB1623384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050618183244.02999868@pop.registeredsite.com> >Jeff wrote-- > >I know Jed very well. Unfortunately he no longer works at B101 or in radio >at all. He was the last live overnight jock on a commercial station in >Providence (with the exception of 95.5 WBRU). Unfortunately he was replaced >with a computer, and they don't even voicetrack anyone overnights these >days. Jed was one of my students at Emerson and we keep in touch. What an inspiring and determined person! He would come to class with his seeing eye dog and the dog would lay down at his feet while he took classes. He even took (and passed) a FILM class, because it was a required course and he didn't want special treatment. All he asked was for a student to describe the visuals, and he did his critique from the dialogue and what the student described to him. He was also the PD at Emerson's WECB-- learned the entire board by heart and just needed the PSA's put into braille. I hope he finds another job, because he is an incredible kid for sure. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Jun 18 23:10:58 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Jun 18 23:41:25 2005 Subject: Rex Trailer's Boomtown In-Reply-To: <200506181839.j5IId4sl056688@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <42B4AA02.28305.64A71E@localhost> On 18 Jun 2005 at 14:04, Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > I'm just sitting in front of the tv in what I can best desribe as > "Nostalgia Overload" having just watched the "Rex Trailer's Boomtown" > special on Channel 4. Memories that have been stored for 40 years have > all come flooding back. Wow! Nice to see Donna Halper, Larry Glick, > Jess Cain and so many more as part of the tribute. I watched a little of it and taped the show so that I can watch the rest, probably tomorrow. >From what I saw, what struck me was how old Rex Trailer looked and sounded. I wouldn't have recognized him without the caption. This brings to mind a bit of an aside. In October 1988, Buffalo Bob Smith and Clarabell were making a personal appearance at the Hampshire Mall in Hadley, and I happened to be there to see it. When the show was over, and they were signing autographs, a UMass student came up asking for Rex Trailer's autograph. It seemed there was a scavanger hunt at UMass, and the organizers of the scavanger hunt got things wrong. They thought somehow that Rex Trailer was at the Hadley Mall, and his autograph was one of the requirements of the scavanger hunt. Buffalo Bob had no idea who Rex Trailer was, but was happy to give them his autograph. Being near the head of the line, I explained that Rex Trailer was a local Boston personality who used to be on Saturday mornings just before Howdy Doody. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Jun 18 23:10:58 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Jun 18 23:41:25 2005 Subject: WCBS-FM format change featured on NBC Nightly News In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050618122802.01b0e018@pop3.grolen.com> References: <20050618144453.77731.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42B4AA02.21250.64A6AB@localhost> On 18 Jun 2005 at 12:34, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Speaking as a fellow radio geek, I have to say that while it's sad to > see a heritage station change formats, life goes on. A lot of us > (myself included) on this list grew up with Top 40 on WRKO, but it > wasn't the end of the world when they went talk. I really don't see > what the big fuss is about. "Jack" is to my ears, an oldies station > for a different generation. And if the new format lasts long enough, it will be considered a "heritage" station by a later generation. To you, the WRKO top-40 format was "heritage." To me, it replaced WNAC and the Yankee Network, and THAT was a Heritage station. To some older people, WNAC's move to 680 liquidated WLAW Lawrence, and THAT was a heritage station -- much as WEEI's move to 850 liquidated WHDH in more recent times. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From gary@garysicecream.com Sat Jun 18 23:21:53 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sat Jun 18 23:52:19 2005 Subject: Rex Trailer's Boomtown In-Reply-To: <20050618202232.13553.qmail@web54605.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200506190352.j5J3qUtV063449@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> It was Santas Village on Rt 114 in Middleton - long since gone! -Gary Francis -----Original Message----- From: Cooper Fox [mailto:fox893@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 4:23 PM To: Gary's Ice Cream; Boston radio e-mail list Subject: Re: Rex Trailer's Boomtown --- Gary's Ice Cream wrote: > I'm just sitting in front of the tv in what I can best desribe as > "Nostalgia Overload" having just watched the "Rex Trailer's Boomtown" > special on Channel 4. > Memories that have been stored for 40 years have all come flooding > back. I had a chance to see that this afternoon. Very cool to see how there were local kids programming then. I have seen some of the local kids stuff that Portland stations kick out. It's not bad, but with all the other options available to kids on a Saturday morning I cannot imagine viewership is all that large. I was surpised to see they(Boomtown) did a show/appearance at Santa's Village in Jefferson NH. Has WBZ ever been viewable in that part of NH? Or was it done on the assumption that viewers would go there to see Rex and crew? I assume these were appearances that were actually sold to Santa's Village? Magic 104 North Conway, NH V: (603)356-8870 F: (603)356-8875 ***Commercial Production Demo at: http://cooperfox.voice123.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From stephanie@gordsven.com Sat Jun 18 22:14:55 2005 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Sun Jun 19 00:08:51 2005 Subject: WCBS-FM format change featured on NBC Nightly News In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050618122802.01b0e018@pop3.grolen.com> References: <20050618144453.77731.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20050618122802.01b0e018@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > of the world when they went talk. I really don't see what the big fuss is > about. "Jack" is to my ears, an oldies station for a different generation. >From what I've seen on the New York Radio Message Board (http://www.musicradio77.com/wwwboard ), the fuss is over the callous way the deejays (Cousin Brucie, Norm N. Nite, Bob Shannon, etc.) were dismissed that Friday around 5. Nobody had ANY idea it was coming, not even the station's management, apparently. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sun Jun 19 00:58:01 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sun Jun 19 01:35:43 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? References: <20050617212423.E81C23384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com><8C741C242D9D48A-3FC-4FE0@MBLK-M02.sysops.aol.com> <17076.40982.927424.804210@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <077f01c5748b$7b432000$1404fea9@xyz> > There are probably at least as many people who have strong feelings of > antipathy towards Magic as would call it their favorite station -- as > witness the diary entries for 'BCN, 'FNX, and 'AAF. So, you are saying that people write down that they listen to stations for which they have "a strong feeling of aversion or repugnance". What supports this theory? From radio88@radio88.net Mon Jun 20 08:45:45 2005 From: radio88@radio88.net (Todd Glickman) Date: Mon Jun 20 08:45:37 2005 Subject: WCBS's Gary Maurer Retires Message-ID: WCBS Newsradio-880's Gary Maurer retired recently, after a 37-year career as a reporter and anchor. Gary was the anchor for my first weathercast there, May 5, 1979! WCBS has put up a special Web page in his honor, that includes a slide show of images submitted by me from his retirement party. Also are links to two sound files, one is the on-air interview on that day; the second the audio tribute played to him at the party. The page is at: http://wcbs880.com/topstories/local_story_154190712.html ============================================= Todd Glickman Associate Director of Corporate Relations, MIT Clerk, Technology Broadcasting Corporation/WMBR(FM) Meteorologist, WCBS Newsradio-880, NYC From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Jun 20 16:45:46 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Jun 20 21:42:38 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? Message-ID: <20050620204546.506F6341F9@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Garrett Wollman" >To: donkelley@aol.com >Subject: Re: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? >Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:37:48 -0400 > > < > You and other pros are absolutely welcome to post here. Your > employment, and your station's undoubted commercial success, do not > grant you an immunity from criticism. Adult Contemporary radio is, > how shall I put it, Not Everyone's Cup Of Tea. I'm certain if > Laurence lived in Springfield he'd be complaining about the vapidity > of WMAS-FM and WHYN-FM (not to mention the dearth of opera and choral > music and the machinations of WAMC's Alan Chartock). Sometimes he can > sound like a broken record, but then, so do you. > > -GAWollman "Broken record"? In this era of CD's, iPods and MP3s, the term "broken record" is as archaic as "film at 11:00", "don't touch that dial" and "ethyl please". -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Jun 20 22:54:03 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Jun 20 23:29:38 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? Message-ID: <200506202254.AA1259274520@mail.ttlc.net> "Laurence Glavin" wrote: >"Broken record"? In this era of CD's, iPods and MP3s, >the term "broken record" is as archaic as "film at 11:00", >"don't touch that dial" and "ethyl please". Archaic, perhaps, but regardez les "ancient" sound effects still being used in radio commercials today e.g. the sound of a needle being dragged across a record, a mechanical cash register making the "ka-ching" sound, a phone ring with a mechanical bell, the sound of a radio being tuned quickly across the dial, a typewriter, etc. BTW: Many Club DJ's still prefer vinyl and turntables. Roger (formerly from) Lawrence From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Jun 21 02:28:31 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue Jun 21 02:39:41 2005 Subject: Ordway on NESN? Message-ID: <01a901c5762b$a6a61260$1404fea9@xyz> I heard some rumors that NESN was going to simulcast the Ordway show (The Big Show with the Big 'O') from WEEI. (ala Imus, I suppose.) Has anyone heard anything about this? From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Jun 21 02:59:02 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue Jun 21 03:01:37 2005 Subject: Ordway on NESN? References: <01a901c5762b$a6a61260$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <01af01c5762e$b6aa1460$1404fea9@xyz> From: "Joseph Pappalardo" > I heard some rumors that NESN was going to simulcast the Ordway show (The > Big Show with the Big 'O') from WEEI. (ala Imus, I suppose.) > Has anyone heard anything about this? Or has it already been done...and I'm late hearing about it....? From wollman@csail.mit.edu Tue Jun 21 12:30:34 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Jun 21 12:30:39 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <077f01c5748b$7b432000$1404fea9@xyz> References: <20050617212423.E81C23384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> <8C741C242D9D48A-3FC-4FE0@MBLK-M02.sysops.aol.com> <17076.40982.927424.804210@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <077f01c5748b$7b432000$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <17080.16554.731396.963060@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: >> [I wrote:] >> There are probably at least as many people who have strong feelings of >> antipathy towards Magic as would call it their favorite station -- as >> witness the diary entries for 'BCN, 'FNX, and 'AAF. > So, you are saying that people write down that they listen to stations for > which they have "a strong feeling of aversion or repugnance". What > supports this theory? No, I am saying that, in my experience, people who like modern- and active-rock formats tend to detest AC. Ergo, the people who write down that they listen to those stations can, by imputation, be said to have a "strong feeling" about Magic that is not in the least positive. (My experience also indicates that the antipathy is probably mutual; I bet most Magic P1s have a strong feeling about 'AAF, particularly when their kids are blasting it!) -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Tue Jun 21 12:56:24 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Jun 21 13:56:00 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <17080.16554.731396.963060@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <077f01c5748b$7b432000$1404fea9@xyz> <20050617212423.E81C23384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> <8C741C242D9D48A-3FC-4FE0@MBLK-M02.sysops.aol.com> <17076.40982.927424.804210@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <077f01c5748b$7b432000$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050621124818.0320ee48@gwind.pair.com> At 12:30 PM 6/21/2005 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: >No, I am saying that, in my experience, people who like modern- and >active-rock formats tend to detest AC. Ergo, the people who write >down that they listen to those stations can, by imputation, be said to >have a "strong feeling" about Magic that is not in the least positive. >(My experience also indicates that the antipathy is probably mutual; I >bet most Magic P1s have a strong feeling about 'AAF, particularly when >their kids are blasting it!) I would disagree, respectfully, with Garrett on at least one point: the whole purpose of a station like WMJX or WLTW, at least as I understand it, is to be "detested" by the fewest number of listeners possible. These stations exist to be the least offensive, most universally listener-friendly spot on the dial. The kids in the back seat of the minivan might not love it, but they'll at least hear the occasional tune they recognize, and mom in the driver's seat doesn't need to worry about her kids hearing anything inappropriate. (Neither, for that matter, does the management at the NH State Liquor Store, which probably explains why the station's on there, too.) I'm sure WAAF's P1s don't spend much, if any, time listening to WMJX - but I doubt many of them would have very strong feelings about the station, one way or another. It's always interesting, in reading this and other radio discussions, to see just how little attention these heritage AC stations tend to get, especially when compared to their ratings and, especially, revenue status. That indicates to me that folks like Don Kelley are doing their jobs right. If I were in his shoes, the last thing I'd want is ANY controversy about my station. Why break what's working so well? (And no, I don't take Laurence's comments as an indication that anything's wrong with WMJX; those of us who've been on the list for years know that Laurence wants something from his radio that his radio, in this day and age, isn't going to give him. We can argue at length about whether that's a good thing or not; but it's unlikely to change.) s From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Jun 21 17:00:09 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Jun 21 17:00:03 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? Message-ID: <20050621210009.61ACFC6119@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Scott Fybush" >To: "Garrett Wollman" , "Joseph Pappalardo" >Subject: Re: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? >Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:56:24 -0400 > > > > (And no, I don't take Laurence's comments as an indication that > anything's wrong with WMJX; those of us who've been on the list for > years know that Laurence wants something from his radio that his > radio, in this day and age, isn't going to give him. We can argue > at length about whether that's a good thing or not; but it's > unlikely to change.) > > s Of course, here your talking about MUSICAL programming. I get news, ideas, commentary, dialogue and LAUGHS from radio (I love "Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me") nearly every day. For music, I have CD's and I venture into metro Boston at least twice a month to attend LIVE concerts. Even with WGBH-FM's reduction in musical programming, it still has "Symphonycast" on Sunday afternoons and "From the Top" Sunday evenings when I'm home, otherwise I listen to it on Maine Public radio on Mondays (or more likely tape it from WMEA). By the way, one "concert" I attended two weeks ago was a taping session of "From the Top" at Jordan Hall to be aired in October. They put on a presentation that took close to 90 minutes...if you've heard the show and thought it was pretty slick for a program of untested adolescents (although VERY talented and VERY well-trained), I suspect that many miracles are performed in the editing room! -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From hykker@grolen.com Tue Jun 21 18:56:17 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Jun 21 19:50:42 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <20050621210009.61ACFC6119@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050621210009.61ACFC6119@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050621185525.01b75d80@pop3.grolen.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: >I have CD's and I venture into metro Boston at >least twice a month to attend LIVE concerts. As opposed to dead concerts? From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 22 01:23:56 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Jun 22 01:54:58 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050621124818.0320ee48@gwind.pair.com> References: <17080.16554.731396.963060@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <42B8BDAC.12622.8235B5@localhost> On 21 Jun 2005 at 12:56, Scott Fybush wrote: > I would disagree, respectfully, with Garrett on at least one point: > the whole purpose of a station like WMJX or WLTW, at least as I > understand it, is to be "detested" by the fewest number of listeners > possible. These stations exist to be the least offensive, most > universally listener-friendly spot on the dial. The kids in the back > seat of the minivan might not love it, but they'll at least hear the > occasional tune they recognize, and mom in the driver's seat doesn't > need to worry about her kids hearing anything inappropriate. (Neither, > for that matter, does the management at the NH State Liquor Store, > which probably explains why the station's on there, too.) I don't know, I find that I can't stand WMJX for long periods of time. All the songs tend to sound too much alike. It doesn't offend me in small doses, but if I had to listen to it for a long time, I think I'd get very annoyed. And I suspect teenagers might feel that way even more so. Kinda reminds me of the story a few years back where a store owner didn't like teenagers hanging around outside his store, so he started to play a steady diet of Frank Sinatra in the area where the teens were hanging out. Presto! No teens! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From hykker@grolen.com Wed Jun 22 07:23:09 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Jun 22 07:22:51 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <42B8BDAC.12622.8235B5@localhost> References: <17080.16554.731396.963060@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <42B8BDAC.12622.8235B5@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050622072054.01b29138@pop3.grolen.com> At 01:23 AM 6/22/2005, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > >I don't know, I find that I can't stand WMJX for long periods of >time. All the songs tend to >sound too much alike. It doesn't offend me in small doses, but if I had >to listen to it for a >long time, I think I'd get very annoyed. But this can be said for any genre of music you don't especially like. I'll hear about some "unique" altrock (for example) station, but to my ears sounds just like every other one. From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Wed Jun 22 11:50:46 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Wed Jun 22 12:26:05 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? References: <17080.16554.731396.963060@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <42B8BDAC.12622.8235B5@localhost> Message-ID: <009901c57742$2c4cba60$1404fea9@xyz> > I don't know, I find that I can't stand WMJX for long periods of time. All the songs tend to > sound too much alike. It doesn't offend me in small doses, but if I had to listen to it for a > long time, I think I'd get very annoyed. > > And I suspect teenagers might feel that way even more so. My information may be dated, (I have a Spring 2004 ARB in front of me), but WMJX appears to be the #5 station with teens. After the obvious teen choices....JMN, Kiss AAF and BCN....it's their next choice. So for a station NOT targeted at teens, they appear to do very well with teens. From billo@shoreham.net Wed Jun 22 14:44:08 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Jun 22 17:52:31 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? In-Reply-To: <009901c57742$2c4cba60$1404fea9@xyz> References: <17080.16554.731396.963060@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <42B8BDAC.12622.8235B5@localhost> <009901c57742$2c4cba60$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <42B9B178.3070709@shoreham.net> >So for a station NOT targeted at teens, they appear to do very well with >teens. > > > > Like it or not, A/C is here to stay. It seems to have more immunity to the pitfalls of consultants and fad-fanners. Keeps right on ticking.... Bill O'Neill From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Jun 23 01:49:13 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Jun 23 01:56:18 2005 Subject: Boomtown: Liam O'Malley Message-ID: <00f201c577b7$e78fab00$1404fea9@xyz> During the Boomtown special this past weekend.....there was a couple of comments/clips from "Liam O'Malley". My wife and I were raking our brains trying to figure out who this is....as he looked oddly familiar. Anyone have a clue? JP From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Jun 24 03:07:39 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Jun 24 03:07:32 2005 Subject: ratings update Message-ID: <1fbbbced050624000744931b14@mail.gmail.com> The new phone book's--er, ratings book-- is here... http://www.radioandrecords.com --Air America's WKOX and WXKS actually show up, if barely. WJIB holds steady (yes I can't give actual numbers, you'll have to see the page itself) "Mike" --slight downtick. WEEI up due to Sox. 'RKO also up. Celts move to 680 now official. Oldies 103 steady. WTKK gains almost as much as WRKO did. WAMG went up (naturally)--hey, format change due but it does _better_ in the book before the change (to ESPN, next month) From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Jun 24 12:15:11 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Jun 24 12:14:59 2005 Subject: ratings update In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced050624000744931b14@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced050624000744931b14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced050624091575f0440@mail.gmail.com> >>WAMG went up (naturally)--hey, format change due but it does _better_ in the book before the change (to ESPN, next month) What I meant by that is the condition when a station changes format and you look back at the last book just before the format change and found they actually went up, not down, with the "previous" format. by the way I should mention that yes, this latest "book" is really a monthly trend not a full book. I guess next month there will be a more comprehensive ratings book out. From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Jun 25 14:56:19 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Jun 25 14:56:13 2005 Subject: "Discover" Disses AM Radio Message-ID: <20050625185619.862DBE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> I was perusing a few articles in the current issue of "Discover" magazine, a publication dealing with issues in the world of science. An article beginning on page 44 of the July issue, entitled "Catch Me If You Can", deals with the search for an elusive particle, or even multitude of particles, called the Higgs boson. Physicists propel subatomic particles at more than 99.99% of the speed of light to see what escapes when they collide. The Higgs boson is supposed to answer the question: 'why does matter weigh something instead of nothing"? Sometime in the future, a super-duper collider may tease it out of matter, but for now, researchers using a collider near Chicago are on the case. The device, called a Tevatron "is not sensitive enough given the current data to distinguish the fallout of a Higgs shower from those of other heavy heavy particles such as the top quark..". "You probably have to produce about a billion Higgs particles to reliably identify one, MIT theorist Frank Wilczech warned...even the Large Hadron Collider will struggle with this problem...it's like listening to AM radio; there's so much interference," OK, here's a scientists from Cambridge, working in suburban Chicago, using AM radio as an analogy. I wonder if this comparison came from his experience tryng to listen to AM radio in the Boston area or in Chcago. The latter has three 1A clear channel stations while Boston has only one. Maybe he got the idea from trying to listen to WJIB more than 5 miles away from Fresh Pond! -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jun 26 07:16:11 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Jun 26 07:35:33 2005 Subject: "Discover" Disses AM Radio References: <20050625185619.862DBE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000001c57a43$2a1bf540$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Four: 670 WSCR, 720 WGN, 780 WBBM, and 890 WLS. Plus ex-IB WMVP (if those are this week's calls) 1000. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 2:56 PM Subject: "Discover" Disses AM Radio > OK, here's a scientists from Cambridge, working in suburban > Chicago, using AM radio as an analogy. I wonder if this comparison > came from his experience tryng to listen to AM radio in the > Boston area or in Chcago. The latter has three 1A clear channel > stations while Boston has only one. Maybe he got the idea from > trying to listen to WJIB more than 5 miles away from Fresh Pond! From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Jun 24 02:04:57 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun Jun 26 10:49:39 2005 Subject: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? Message-ID: <33333391.1119593097892.JavaMail.root@wamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > From: SteveOrdinetz > > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:56:17 -0400 > Subject: Re: Is the Boston Herald replacing Dean Johnson? > > Laurence Glavin wrote: > > >I have CD's and I venture into metro Boston at > >least twice a month to attend LIVE concerts. > > As opposed to dead concerts? If so, you're out of luck. There are no plans for any more "Dead" concerts at this time. I'm hearing that all the attempts to reunite the surviving members of the Grateful Dead without the leadership of the late Jerry Garcia, whether as "The Other Ones" or more recently as just "The Dead" (without the word "Grateful"), have ended up resulting in bickering and infighting among the original band members during each tour. They plan to continue to tour mid-size venues separately with their smaller spin-off bands, such as Bob Weir & Ratdog and Phil Lesh & Friends. E.P. From markwats@comcast.net Sun Jun 26 14:52:44 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Jun 26 14:52:35 2005 Subject: Boston Globe Article On Lowell Spinners Return To WCAP Message-ID: <007d01c57a80$3f172090$6f918318@Mark> Today's (June 26) Boston Globe Northwest Weekly section has an article about the return of the Lowell Spinners to WCAP (980 Lowell) after WUML (91.5 Lowell) bailed out of their contract with the Spinners just a few weeks before this past Tuesday's season opener, with WCAP owner Maurice Cohen quoted in said article. Also mentioned in the article is Christopher Lydon's new show "Open Source" which airs live evenings on WGBH-FM and airs on one day delay at 9AM weekday mornings on WUML. U Mass administrators are hinting this schedule will change. Here's the link for the article on the Globe's website: http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/06/26/spinners_out_at_umass_station/ Mark Watson From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Jun 26 23:43:19 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Jun 27 00:30:07 2005 Subject: Rex Trailer Message-ID: <42BF3D97.6496.6EE275@localhost> I went to an open house today at Brookline Access Television, and they were doing an interview with Rex Trailer, live. After it was over, I got to meet and talk with him. And I must say, he looked a lot better than he did on the TV show last week. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Jun 27 06:55:14 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Jun 27 06:55:01 2005 Subject: Rex Trailer In-Reply-To: <42BF3D97.6496.6EE275@localhost> References: <42BF3D97.6496.6EE275@localhost> Message-ID: <1fbbbced05062703551c3e6296@mail.gmail.com> I had taped the Ch 4 Boomtown special and showed it to a friend last night. Great memories; I loved the music and hope they put out a CD of Rex's stuff. I know they're selling a DVD (advertised on the special and on his site rextrailer.tv) of Boomtown memories. by the way did you notice on the special that at one point you could see the old Ch. 25 logo? Boomtown spent a year or so after leaving Ch. 4 on the old WXNE-TV 25. I still remember when they went on the air, and I'd see ads on buses for them and their shows: Gomer Pyle, McHale's Navy, the King Kong cartoon, Spiderman, etc. Owned by Pat Robertson and later sold to Fox (didn't the Celtics own them at one time, too?) On 6/26/05, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > I went to an open house today at Brookline Access Television, and they were doing an > interview with Rex Trailer, live. After it was over, I got to meet and talk with him. And I must > say, he looked a lot better than he did on the TV show last week. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Jun 27 10:04:55 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon Jun 27 10:04:48 2005 Subject: 103.1 WMLL relay heard on air in Concord NH area Message-ID: <20050627140455.72722.qmail@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I noticed while doing a bandscan on my way back for Lake Winnepesaukee last night that 103.1 // of 103.1 was on the air. I think somebody mentioned on this list that it was about to happen, and I can verify it has. John B Derry NH From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Jun 27 11:02:27 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Jun 27 11:02:18 2005 Subject: FM DX'ing still possible after all (even in an age of IBOC) Message-ID: <17088.5379.113834.978549@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> On the way in to work this morning, I noted NYC stations in on tropo like the proverbial ton of bricks. 93.9, 95.5, 96.3, 97.9, 98.7, 100.3, 101.9, 102.7, 103.5, 104.3, 105.1, and 107.5 were all copyable. A good chunk of Connecticut was in as well: 89.5, 95.1, 96.5, 100.5, 102.3, 102.9; some Long Island, most notably 89.9 and 97.5. (92.3 sounded like 'PRO and not like Howard; 106.7 is so obviously unlikely that I didn't even try. 105.9 is not much of a signal and I would not have expected to hear it.) This is by far the best I've done on NYC from Framingham; my only previous tally was 97.1, which was probably poking up above the 96.9 IBOC splat but not strongly enough to copy. -GAWollman From Rogerkola@aol.com Mon Jun 27 11:53:53 2005 From: Rogerkola@aol.com (Rogerkola) Date: Mon Jun 27 11:57:46 2005 Subject: FCC dissasembles Radio Free Brattleboro Message-ID: <005701c57b30$f3e7ab60$6823a8c0@Sales2> According to the BMRG newsletter... "U.S. marshals again raid "pirate" radio station, Radio Free Brattleboro, in Brattleboro, Vt. They shut down station and take reported $15,000 in equipment." Roger WA1KAT From sid@wrko.com Mon Jun 27 12:18:36 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon Jun 27 12:59:11 2005 Subject: FCC dissasembles Radio Free Brattleboro Message-ID: >>According to the BMRG newsletter... "U.S. marshals again raid "pirate" radio station, Radio Free Brattleboro, in Brattleboro, Vt. They shut down station and take reported $15,000 in equipment."<< The comments posted at ibrattleboro.com about the raid are actually funny, or perhaps pathetic...can't decide which. They blame the raid on "jack-booted thugs," "neo-cons" and just about any other group they don't like. Funny how nowhere in any of the comments is one word said about breaking the law, which has been in place since the 1920's, or about the concept (apparently unclear to these yahoos) that when you deliberately thumb your nose at authority, you should not be terribly surprised when that authority clamps down hard on you. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From mamros@MIT.EDU Mon Jun 27 13:21:00 2005 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Mon Jun 27 13:20:54 2005 Subject: FM DX'ing still possible after all (even in an age of IBOC) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:02:27 EDT." <17088.5379.113834.978549@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <200506271721.j5RHL0k2011962@all-night-tool.mit.edu> >On the way in to work this morning, I noted NYC stations in on tropo >like the proverbial ton of bricks. [...] Ah. That explains why I was getting occasional bursts of static this morning while listening to 92.5, which usually comes in with no problem at all. It wasn't strong enough to overcome WXRV enough to ID what other station(s) it might've been, though, and I didn't think to tune around the band to see what else was out there. -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From scott@fybush.com Mon Jun 27 14:51:57 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Jun 27 15:38:47 2005 Subject: FCC dissasembles Radio Free Brattleboro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050627144004.02fbdec0@gwind.pair.com> Sid S. said: >The comments posted at ibrattleboro.com about the raid are actually >funny, or perhaps pathetic...can't decide which. They blame the raid on >"jack-booted thugs," "neo-cons" and just about any other group they >don't like. Funny how nowhere in any of the comments is one word said >about breaking the law, which has been in place since the 1920's, or >about the concept (apparently unclear to these yahoos) that when you >deliberately thumb your nose at authority, you should not be terribly >surprised when that authority clamps down hard on you. If you read some of the other topics at ibrattleboro, that mindset is to be expected, really - many (though by no means all) of the posters there are living examples of the crunchy-granola stereotype that's used by some to tar anyone who leans even somewhat to the left. Last year, I was tarred there as being a "corporate-loving toady" or something to that effect, which was a hoot for anyone who knows me. (In fairness, I responded and had a pretty good exchange with several posters there. The guy who attacked me had a burr up his saddle about my criticism of Syracuse Community Radio, which is a story unto itself.) What's sad about it all is that the FCC itself has, I'm afraid, contributed to the image it now suffers from in the community radio world. There's never been a concerted attempt on the part of the Commission to explain to the public why it enforces the rules the way it does, and often, the FCC never even makes ANY comment to the media when it conducts a shutdown like this. WE know - because we're broadcasters - what would happen if 10-watt FMs were allowed on the air without federal regulation. Yes, there would be a few new opportunities for community radio, but it would quickly be smothered by CSN, K-Love, Air One, AFR and Family Radio on every channel on the dial (probably all at once.) As I alluded to in NERW today, the FCC hasn't helped matters by opening that misguided translator window (since frozen) last year. But nobody - not the Commission, not the licensed broadcasters - is making that case, so the "jack-booted thugs" rhetoric goes unchallenged, which is a shame. s From sid@wrko.com Mon Jun 27 16:40:12 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon Jun 27 16:40:12 2005 Subject: FCC dissasembles Radio Free Brattleboro Message-ID: >>What's sad about it all is that the FCC itself has, I'm afraid, contributed to the image it now suffers from in the community radio world. There's never been a concerted attempt on the part of the Commission to explain to the public why it enforces the rules the way it does, and often, the FCC never even makes ANY comment to the media when it conducts a shutdown like this.<< Maybe it's just me, but I have a problem with a government agency with legitimate enforcement powers being forced to explain itself every time they enforce the law against those who disobey it. RFB has a lawyer, who has presumably explained to them the consequences of continuing to operate without a license (and if he hasn't, he should be fired). They chose to go ahead regardless, and now they bitch and moan because the FCC's agents acted predicatably and within the law. Moreover, RFB's supporters knew full well that RFB was transmitting without a license, and again they feign shock and horror over the perfectly predictable and lawful actions of the Enforcement Bureau. Sorry, but it doesn't wash with me. >>As I alluded to in NERW today, the FCC hasn't helped matters by opening that misguided translator window (since frozen) last year.<< The blatant abuse of the translator licensing process has been an ongoing scandal for at least several decades, but because such a large percentage of the translator owners are religious organizations, nothing is going to be done about it and everyone knows it, especially under the current administration. >>But nobody - not the Commission, not the licensed broadcasters - is making that case, so the "jack-booted thugs" rhetoric goes unchallenged, which is a shame.<< If the Commission had to answer every charge of "jack-booted thugs" or similar drivel every time they shut down a pirate, their press office would have no time for anything else. There is copious material available on the web and elsewhere which explains the consequences of violating Section 301, so there's no really good excuse for not knowing. Perhaps it's the generalized mistrust of government which, as you and others have pointed out, seems to pervade the state of Vermont, but just because they don't like it doesn't mean they get a free pass on it. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From scott@fybush.com Mon Jun 27 17:24:43 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Jun 27 18:01:43 2005 Subject: FCC dissasembles Radio Free Brattleboro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050627170501.03438ff0@gwind.pair.com> >Maybe it's just me, but I have a problem with a government agency with >legitimate enforcement powers being forced to explain itself every time >they enforce the law against those who disobey it. RFB has a lawyer, >who has presumably explained to them the consequences of continuing to >operate without a license (and if he hasn't, he should be fired). They >chose to go ahead regardless, and now they bitch and moan because the >FCC's agents acted predicatably and within the law. Moreover, RFB's >supporters knew full well that RFB was transmitting without a license, >and again they feign shock and horror over the perfectly predictable and >lawful actions of the Enforcement Bureau. Sorry, but it doesn't wash >with me. RFB and its lawyers are exercising their First Amendment right to showboat, and if it was good enough for Michael Jackson...well... > >>As I alluded to in NERW today, the FCC hasn't helped matters by >opening that misguided translator window (since frozen) last year.<< > >The blatant abuse of the translator licensing process has been an >ongoing scandal for at least several decades, but because such a large >percentage of the translator owners are religious organizations, nothing >is going to be done about it and everyone knows it, especially under the >current administration. Even the current administration (much to my surprise) seems to have realized it went a little too far over the edge with last year's window. The impression I get is that the freeze that the FCC put down a month ago came as a shock to the satellator operators, as well it should have. There's a very real 307(c) ("fair and equitable distribution of broadcast service") case to be made against the way the FCC handled translators vis a vis LPFMs, and I hope someone takes them on with it. But I digress... >If the Commission had to answer every charge of "jack-booted thugs" or >similar drivel every time they shut down a pirate, their press office >would have no time for anything else. There is copious material >available on the web and elsewhere which explains the consequences of >violating Section 301, so there's no really good excuse for not knowing. > Perhaps it's the generalized mistrust of government which, as you and >others have pointed out, seems to pervade the state of Vermont, but just >because they don't like it doesn't mean they get a free pass on it. There's plenty of material out there explaining the CONSEQUENCES of violating Section 301. There's very little that explains the RATIONALE behind Section 301's existence. If I turn on an average radio here in Rochester and tune to 90.9, I hear nothing. Absent the understanding of interference and propagation and broadcast regulation in general that most of us on the list have, why wouldn't I assume that the government is being less than pure of motive in telling me that I can't therefore use that slice of "the public airwaves" to broadcast? The "Vermont mentality," if we're calling it that, holds - not entirely without reason - that there are many such laws that really are just that irrational, many of which are ignored every day with little or no consequence. Why would broadcasting be any different, especially when the bottom line, for a significant number of people in Brattleboro, is that it appears that federal agents have just shut down a well-liked local station filling an otherwise unserved niche? These are intelligent (if sometimes misguided) people, for whom "because it's the law, and we say so" isn't - and shouldn't be - an adequate answer. I don't think it's unreasonable, in that context, for someone - whether it be the FCC or licensed broadcasters themselves or what have you - to take an active role in the public dialogue and explain just why these rules aren't as irrational as they look. Nowhere in the general-media discussion of RFB and its ilk has there been any talk about what would actually happen if RFB won its case and if FM broadcasts of less than 100 watts were deregulated. We know the answer (and those of us who are historians of the industry know what it sounded like the last time that happened), but Joe Public doesn't. Put that information in front of the citizens of Brattleboro, and RFB might look a little less heroic (especially since there's an LPFM CP waiting in the wings there to replace RFB anyway.) Yes, the FCC press office might have to work, for a change. What, exactly, DO they do now? I don't see them winning any awards for public outreach there, and I've never had the respect for the press office that I do for the Media Bureau or the other parts of the commission where things actually get done. s From sid@wrko.com Mon Jun 27 19:46:12 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon Jun 27 19:46:20 2005 Subject: FCC dissasembles Radio Free Brattleboro Message-ID: >>I don't think it's unreasonable, in that context, for someone - whether it be the FCC or licensed broadcasters themselves or what have you - to take an active role in the public dialogue and explain just why these rules aren't as irrational as they look.<< Well, I'm still not convinced that public explanations are the FCC's business, but if it ever comes to that, I (and, I suspect, the rest of the folks on this list) will be all ears to hear the FCC's defense of allocation standards which have not materially changed in over 70 years. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From scott@fybush.com Mon Jun 27 20:20:56 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Jun 27 21:11:18 2005 Subject: FCC dissasembles Radio Free Brattleboro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050627195542.02fd1330@gwind.pair.com> At 05:46 PM 6/27/2005 -0600, Sid Schweiger wrote: > >>I don't think it's unreasonable, in that context, for someone - >whether it >be the FCC or licensed broadcasters themselves or what have you - to >take >an active role in the public dialogue and explain just why these rules >aren't as irrational as they look.<< > >Well, I'm still not convinced that public explanations are the FCC's >business, but if it ever comes to that, I (and, I suspect, the rest of >the folks on this list) will be all ears to hear the FCC's defense of >allocation standards which have not materially changed in over 70 years. I pay for the FCC. I expect them to be able to explain and defend what they do with my money, just as I would any other government agency. The FCC has shown that it can do so when it so desires, on certain broadcasting issues such as the DTV conversion, indecency fines and enforcement of the payola rules. You want to try to tell me that the web page the FCC just set up to allow the public to play Enforcement Bureau on payola isn't a PR ploy? I'll agree with you that the allocation standards have not materially changed in over 70 years. The world around them has. 70 years ago, it took a staff of engineers and very deep pockets to put a radio station on the air. Today, it can be done (not always very well, to be sure) for less than I spent on my last car. 70 years ago, my hometown had two broadcast stations. Today, it has about 40, not counting simulcasts and translators. 70 years ago, all of the commerce in my county was centered in downtown Rochester, and it would have been a stretch to find any other community in Monroe County that could have qualified for an FM allocation under today's Tuck-analysis standards. Today, there are FM stations licensed to 8 other communities in Monroe County - all, save one, operated as Rochester stations from studios within the city limits. If there's a reason that the allocations standards haven't "materially" responded to those changes in 70 years (and I agree that they have not), then yes, I do believe a reasonable, taxpaying citizen deserves a better explanation than "because we say so." (None of this should be construed as meaning that I think I have the right to set up shop with 250 watts on 690 in Waltham, mind you - but I do agree with RFB that the elimination of class D FM licenses in 1980 and the ensuing gap of more than two decades before LP100s began to be licensed, with the crowding on the dials that took place in the interim, slammed the door on community broadcasting in a way that was less than consistent with my reading of the "fair and equitable" clause of the Communications Act.) At least where Brattleboro is concerned, the FCC is losing the battle of public perception right now. It needn't have been that way. From rogerkola@aol.com Mon Jun 27 21:03:36 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Mon Jun 27 21:17:14 2005 Subject: Was: FCC dissasembles RFB, Now 70 Years of rulemaking References: Message-ID: <005501c57b7d$38713980$0200a8c0@Tanguray> I can't help but note that the FCC has created a self fulfilling prophesy by allowing IBOC into the broadcast bands...now second adjacent channel protection makes sense...for the non IBOC broadcaster.... "Let's see...quality radio during the day, same ole, same ole at night." Of course they know what they are doing...Makes perfect sense to me Roger WA1KAT "I (and, I suspect, the rest of the folks on this list) will be all ears to hear the FCC's defense of allocation standards which have not materially changed in over 70 years" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Schweiger" To: Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: Re: FCC dissasembles Radio Free Brattleboro > >>I don't think it's unreasonable, in that context, for someone - > whether it > be the FCC or licensed broadcasters themselves or what have you - to > take > an active role in the public dialogue and explain just why these rules > aren't as irrational as they look.<< > > Well, I'm still not convinced that public explanations are the FCC's > business, but if it ever comes to that, I (and, I suspect, the rest of > the folks on this list) will be all ears to hear the FCC's defense of > allocation standards which have not materially changed in over 70 years. > > > > Sid Schweiger > IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC > WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI > 20 Guest St / 3d Floor > Boston MA 02135-2040 > Phone: 617-779-5369 > Fax: 617-779-5379 > E-Mail: sid@wrko.com > From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Mon Jun 27 19:06:35 2005 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Mon Jun 27 22:02:27 2005 Subject: Pirate On 0.720 MHz? Message-ID: <42C0867B.9090704@Gmail.com> Has anyone else heard the (Haitian?) pirate on 0.720 (MHz)? I suspected it might be from the Lawrence-Lowell area, but I believe I heard it this morning, for the first time, down at South Station, Boston, and it seemed at least as strong (or stronger) as up here on the North Shore--perhaps it's out in the Framingham area? ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Jun 27 21:17:44 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Mon Jun 27 22:30:31 2005 Subject: FCC dissasembles Radio Free Brattleboro References: Message-ID: <002d01c57b7f$2fd92470$7bee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Can people face criminal charges for running a pirate station? If so, do people get prosecuted? From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Jun 28 00:54:33 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Jun 28 01:41:11 2005 Subject: FCC dissasembles Radio Free Brattleboro In-Reply-To: <002d01c57b7f$2fd92470$7bee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <42C09FC9.16990.6662D0@localhost> On 27 Jun 2005 at 21:17, Daniel Billings wrote: > Can people face criminal charges for running a pirate station? If so, > do people get prosecuted? Yes to both questions. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Jun 28 00:54:33 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Jun 28 01:45:14 2005 Subject: FCC dissasembles Radio Free Brattleboro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <42C09FC9.12222.66626C@localhost> On 27 Jun 2005 at 17:46, Sid Schweiger wrote: > Well, I'm still not convinced that public explanations are the FCC's > business, but if it ever comes to that, I (and, I suspect, the rest of > the folks on this list) will be all ears to hear the FCC's defense of > allocation standards which have not materially changed in over 70 > years. Explaining their programs to the public is part of the job of almost every public agency. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From sid@wrko.com Tue Jun 28 06:15:53 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue Jun 28 06:16:00 2005 Subject: FCC dissasembles Radio Free Brattleboro Message-ID: >>Can people face criminal charges for running a pirate station? If so, do people get prosecuted?<< Yes and yes. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From Dave_in_Boston2001@hotmail.com Tue Jun 28 02:08:35 2005 From: Dave_in_Boston2001@hotmail.com (Dave in Boston) Date: Tue Jun 28 10:57:45 2005 Subject: Where are they...? Message-ID: Does anyone know the whereabouts of Jay Dunn? ..or of David Croninger? Thanks! JP From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Jun 28 13:00:13 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue Jun 28 13:00:40 2005 Subject: Opportunity Night Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050628125621.02f83be8@pop.registeredsite.com> I'm working on an article about talent shows, and here in Quincy in the 30s and 40s our local theatre used to hold "Opportunity Nights" when anyone could perform, and locals competed for small prizes as well as for the promise of exposure on radio-- kind of like the much better known Major Bowes or Ted Mack's Amateur Hour, and certainly a precursor to TV shows like Star Search and American Idol. Do any of you have recollections of hearing LOCAL radio talent shows, or pehaps you have relatives who were on them? From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Jun 28 14:38:04 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue Jun 28 14:41:02 2005 Subject: Boston Globe Article On Lowell Spinners Return To WCAP References: <007d01c57a80$3f172090$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <0d5801c57c10$87f18300$1404fea9@xyz> From: "Mark Watson" Subject: Boston Globe Article On Lowell Spinners Return To WCAP > Also mentioned in the article is Christopher Lydon's new show "Open > Source" which airs live evenings on WGBH-FM and airs on one day delay at > 9AM weekday mornings on WUML. U Mass administrators are hinting this > schedule will change. > > Here's the link for the article on the Globe's website: > http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/06/26/spinners_out_at_umass_station/ I just got around to reading this article. Interesting quotes. Even more interesting is Lydon's quoted salary......$12,500 a MONTH! ($150,000 a year! ...for one hour of radio a day.) Here's the question: ....does Lydon *own* this show? (The salary would say no....but knowing his public beef with Jane Chisto, I would assume yes.) So, he pulls in even more $$$ for every affilliate that carries the show? Anyone know how that works? Joe From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Jun 28 15:30:37 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue Jun 28 15:30:37 2005 Subject: Boston Globe Article On Lowell Spinners Return To WCAP In-Reply-To: <0d5801c57c10$87f18300$1404fea9@xyz> References: <007d01c57a80$3f172090$6f918318@Mark> <0d5801c57c10$87f18300$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050628152610.020ee648@mail.mac.com> At 02:38 PM 6/28/2005, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >Even more interesting is Lydon's quoted salary......$12,500 a MONTH! >($150,000 a year! ...for one hour of radio a day.) I heard the show last night, I think for the first time. During a discussion about the Supreme Court ruling on file sharing software, a caller mentioned that the average income for a songwriter is $5000 a year, and Lydon responded by laughing. My reaction to this was "how freeking arrogant", but I was not surprised that Lydon responded this way. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From miscon@miscon.net Tue Jun 28 16:10:35 2005 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Tue Jun 28 16:10:31 2005 Subject: Boston Globe Article On Lowell Spinners Return To WCAP Message-ID: <200506281610.AA123273430@miscon.net> It is my understanding that Lydon does in fact own the rights to "Open Source." Distribution is being handled by Public Radio International (PRI), so questions about affiliate dollars would have to be put to them. But his salary is being paid by the University of Massachusetts Lowell. Speaking of affiliates, the show is currently on on 4 stations (WGBH, WUML, KUOW in Seattle, Washington, and KCPW in Salt Lake City, Utah) and one day a week (Wednesdays?!) on WVPR in Windsor, Vermont. The program is supposed to launch nationally on July 4th. And FWIW,, WUML is NOT listed on PRI's station locator. I thought it odd that the article did not mention that there was some concern among students over the legality of having a commercial for-profit entity such as the Spinners broadcasting over the non-commercial airwaves of WUML. Is (was) that a real concern? Are there precidents elsewhere that would either support the students fear of breaking FCC rules, or rather endorse the University's right to broadcast the Class A team's games? Mike ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Joseph Pappalardo" Reply-To: Joseph Pappalardo Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:38:04 -0400 >From: "Mark Watson" >Subject: Boston Globe Article On Lowell Spinners Return To WCAP > > >> Also mentioned in the article is Christopher Lydon's new show "Open >> Source" which airs live evenings on WGBH-FM and airs on one day delay at >> 9AM weekday mornings on WUML. U Mass administrators are hinting this >> schedule will change. >> >> Here's the link for the article on the Globe's website: >> >http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/06/26/spinners_out_at_umass_station/ > >I just got around to reading this article. > >Interesting quotes. > >Even more interesting is Lydon's quoted salary......$12,500 a MONTH! >($150,000 a year! ...for one hour of radio a day.) > >Here's the question: > >....does Lydon *own* this show? >(The salary would say no....but knowing his public beef with Jane Chisto, I >would assume yes.) > >So, he pulls in even more $$$ for every affilliate that carries the show? > >Anyone know how that works? > >Joe > > From sid@wrko.com Tue Jun 28 16:22:21 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue Jun 28 16:22:23 2005 Subject: Boston Globe Article On Lowell Spinners Return To WCAP Message-ID: >>I thought it odd that the article did not mention that there was some concern among students over the legality of having a commercial for-profit entity such as the Spinners broadcasting over the non-commercial airwaves of WUML. Is (was) that a real concern? Are there precidents elsewhere that would either support the students fear of breaking FCC rules, or rather endorse the University's right to broadcast the Class A team's games?<< To my virtually certain knowledge, play-by-play coverage of sports is not considered a commercial for the team, even if the team is a for-profit entity. If the team is underwriting part or all of the costs of the live coverage, that fact must be disclosed (sponsorship ID under Section 317), but that still doesn't make it a commercial. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From scott@fybush.com Tue Jun 28 16:28:25 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Jun 28 16:27:39 2005 Subject: Boston Globe Article On Lowell Spinners Return To WCAP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050628162656.030b0ee0@gwind.pair.com> >To my virtually certain knowledge, play-by-play coverage of sports is >not considered a commercial for the team, even if the team is a >for-profit entity. If the team is underwriting part or all of the costs >of the live coverage, that fact must be disclosed (sponsorship ID under >Section 317), but that still doesn't make it a commercial. On this, Sid and I agree :-) There are plenty of examples of noncomms broadcasting play-by-play professional sports, even within the NY-Penn League. My almost-hometown Batavia Muckdogs, for instance, are heard on SUNY Brockport's WBSU 89.1. The students there get some great experience calling the games, and the team gets radio exposure that it otherwise would not. s From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Jun 28 16:25:35 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue Jun 28 16:28:43 2005 Subject: Boston Globe Article On Lowell Spinners Return To WCAP References: <200506281610.AA123273430@miscon.net> Message-ID: <004901c57c1f$8fa039c0$1404fea9@xyz> > I thought it odd that the article did not mention that there was some concern among students over the legality of having a commercial for-profit entity such as the Spinners broadcasting over the non-commercial airwaves of WUML. Is (was) that a real concern? < I don't know of a rule that would prohibit such. Aren't many of the programs that run on non-comm radio & TV commercial ventures in and of themselves? From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Jun 28 23:30:17 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue Jun 28 23:30:44 2005 Subject: Johnny Peirson Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050628232833.02d355c0@pop.registeredsite.com> A journalist from Montreal asked me if I knew whether the former Boston Bruins announcer Johnny Peirson is still alive-- I remember listening to him when I was a kid, but I have no idea what happened to him. The last I heard of him was in 1995 or so. Anybody have any ideas whether he's still with us? From miscon@miscon.net Wed Jun 29 07:04:23 2005 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Wed Jun 29 07:04:18 2005 Subject: Boston Globe Article On Lowell Spinners Return To WCAP Message-ID: <200506290704.AA8323332@miscon.net> Thanks for all the informed input! Mike From Rogerkola@aol.com Thu Jun 30 15:45:50 2005 From: Rogerkola@aol.com (Rogerkola) Date: Thu Jun 30 15:45:45 2005 Subject: WBOQ 104.9 to Carry Red Sox? Message-ID: <007c01c57dac$51fc8e00$6823a8c0@Sales2> WBOQ Beverly/Gloucester has just announced they intend to pick up the Red Sox after the All Star Break....in an area well covered by WEEI, why would the Flagship station give up the revenue? I don't believe they are filling a "hole" in coverage....but maybe I'm missing something (more than usual that is...) Roger WA1KAT From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Jun 30 16:11:26 2005 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Jun 30 16:11:19 2005 Subject: WBOQ 104.9 to Carry Red Sox? Message-ID: <200506302011.QAA22724@webmail10.cac.psu.edu> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:45:50 +0000, "Rogerkola" wrote: > WBOQ Beverly/Gloucester has just announced they intend to pick up the Red > Sox after the All Star Break....in an area well covered by WEEI, why would > the Flagship station give up the revenue? > > I don't believe they are filling a "hole" in coverage....but maybe I'm missing something (more than usual that is...) Could Tanger be transferring the Sox from his new purchase 1450 and putting it on 104.9, in an effort to give the Sox a higher-powered affiliate on the North Shore? (I'm not 100 percent certain that WNBP is a Sox affiliate, but they have been in recent years.) From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Jun 30 17:08:45 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Jun 30 17:08:38 2005 Subject: Article On Low Power Radio Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050630170706.020f29d8@mail.mac.com> Here's an interesting article I found on low power radio in Vermont, both legal and otherwise: http://www.vermontguardian.com/local/0105/LPFM.shtml Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Jun 30 16:42:56 2005 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Jun 30 17:14:22 2005 Subject: How the times have changed... Message-ID: <200506302042.QAA24643@webmail10.cac.psu.edu> Last week, when I met up with some folks on a trip to D.C., someone gave me a couple copies of old American Top 40 shows with Casey Kasem from 1984 and 1985. It was remarkable the breadth of music that hit the charts then-- I was astonished by some of the stuff I heard. It shows you how fragmented "pop" music has become in 20 years. From Jibguy@aol.com Thu Jun 30 17:23:47 2005 From: Jibguy@aol.com (Jibguy@aol.com) Date: Thu Jun 30 17:39:29 2005 Subject: How the times have changed... Message-ID: <11.485b25c8.2ff5bce3@aol.com> In a message dated 6/30/2005 5:17:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, ssmyth@psu.edu writes: old American Top 40 shows with Casey Kasem from 1984 and 1985. It was remarkable the breadth of music that hit the charts then-- I was astonished by some of the stuff I heard. Try going back to 1965 or so, where you would hear these back-to-back (assuming that some were played as re-currents or oldies): DOMINIQUE - Singing Nun LOUIE LOUIE - Kingsmen WE'LL SING IN THE SUNSHINE - Gale Garnett DO YOU LOVE ME? - Contours RAMBLIN ROSE - Nat King Cole BIG GIRLS DON;T CRY - Four Seasons and later WILD THING - Troggs STRANGERS IN THE NIGHT- Frank Sinatra ---jibguy From markwats@comcast.net Thu Jun 30 19:40:24 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Jun 30 19:40:24 2005 Subject: WBOQ 104.9 to Carry Red Sox? References: <200506302011.QAA22724@webmail10.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <00a301c57dcd$181febc0$6f918318@Mark> Sean Smyth wrote: > Could Tanger be transferring the Sox from his new purchase 1450 and > putting it > on 104.9, in an effort to give the Sox a higher-powered affiliate on the > North > Shore? (I'm not 100 percent certain that WNBP is a Sox affiliate, but they > have > been in recent years.) WNBP hasn't been a Red Sox affiliate for several years, but I believe they were for a time just after they moved from their original spot on the dial at 1470. How is WEEI's night signal in the Newburyport & Gloucester areas? Mark Watson From hykker@grolen.com Thu Jun 30 20:38:08 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Jun 30 20:37:46 2005 Subject: WBOQ 104.9 to Carry Red Sox? In-Reply-To: <007c01c57dac$51fc8e00$6823a8c0@Sales2> References: <007c01c57dac$51fc8e00$6823a8c0@Sales2> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050630203545.01bbae08@pop3.grolen.com> Rogerkola wrote: >WBOQ Beverly/Gloucester has just announced they intend to pick up the Red >Sox after the All Star Break....in an area well covered by WEEI, why would >the Flagship station give up the revenue? I'm not sure WEEI is giving up any revenue. Sports packages are usually sold for the season, not individual games. Besides, stations must pay to carry the games...I'm sure as the flagship WEEI gets a cut of that fee. From news@southstation.org Thu Jun 30 18:30:53 2005 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Thu Jun 30 23:28:07 2005 Subject: How the times have changed... In-Reply-To: <11.485b25c8.2ff5bce3@aol.com> Message-ID: <20050630223101.MVXQ11036.lakermmtao01.cox.net@main> I play 'em all on my Internet station. My copy of Ramblin' Rose came from Adventure Car Hop, when my dad bought me Chicken In A Basket. -Larry Lovering www.solidhitsradio.com > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Jibguy@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 5:24 PM > To: ssmyth@psu.edu; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: How the times have changed... > > In a message dated 6/30/2005 5:17:44 PM Eastern Standard > Time, ssmyth@psu.edu > writes: > old American Top 40 shows with Casey Kasem from 1984 and 1985. > It was remarkable the breadth of music that hit the charts > then-- I was astonished by some of the stuff I heard. > Try going back to 1965 or so, where you would hear these > back-to-back (assuming that some were played as re-currents > or oldies): > > DOMINIQUE - Singing Nun > LOUIE LOUIE - Kingsmen > WE'LL SING IN THE SUNSHINE - Gale Garnett DO YOU LOVE ME? - > Contours RAMBLIN ROSE - Nat King Cole BIG GIRLS DON;T CRY - > Four Seasons and later WILD THING - Troggs STRANGERS IN THE > NIGHT- Frank Sinatra > > ---jibguy > > From wgsr1570@nrcdxas.org Thu Jun 30 21:31:46 2005 From: wgsr1570@nrcdxas.org (Ronald C. Gitschier) Date: Fri Jul 1 11:44:07 2005 Subject: WBOQ 104.9 to Carry Red Sox? In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050630203545.01bbae08@pop3.grolen.com> References: <007c01c57dac$51fc8e00$6823a8c0@Sales2> <6.0.3.0.0.20050630203545.01bbae08@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <20050701013146.11640.qmail@mail.vobbe.com> Points well taken... But when you stop to think about it; does WEEI really take on any accounts from Cape Ann & Vicinity?? Probably not, but I haven't had the opportunity to listen to WEEI, being out-of-range here in FL, away from my ol' hometown. $.02; Ron Gitschier Palm Coast, FL > Rogerkola wrote: >> WBOQ Beverly/Gloucester has just announced they intend to pick up the Red Sox after the All Star Break....in an area well covered by WEEI, why would the Flagship station give up the revenue? SteveOrdinetz writes:I'm not sure WEEI is giving up any revenue. Sports packages are usually sold for the season, not individual games. Besides, stations must pay to carry the games...I'm sure as the flagship WEEI gets a cut of that fee. >